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Falk Rank: White Belt
Falk
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Sep 20, 2009 3:06 PM

Idea on WMI templates.

Hi,

 

Me and Johan both made wmi templates for Terminal Servers and Exchange 2003 at the same time without knowing that the other template existed
So we are now discussing offlist how to continue and merge our work into just one TS and One Exchage.

 

But my thougt was this...
What about listing those templates that the community needs, and get together and make a library of templates that uses WMI Data Source by Egor Puzanov.

 

I guess that every admin creates their own template to use at the all the default windows installations out there.

 

I don't know, what do you think out there?
What templates is interesting to have finished for newcomers to the community?

 

  • WMI Exchange 2003 (soon one)
  • WMI Terminal Services (soon one)
  • WMI Windows Performance

 

What templates are you using that we can bring to the community?

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Regards Folke

 

Tags: wmi
  • Johan Keskitalo Rank: White Belt
    Johan Keskitalo
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    1. Oct 29, 2009 4:58 AM (in response to Falk)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    Hi Anders,

     

    I'm working on a template for Exchange 2007 now. I'm about 75% done with what I planned for it, I just have to buck up and add some thresholds.


    Is anyone else monitoring any Exchange 2007 servers? Even though both Anders and my templates were for Exchange 2003 they weren't exactly the same and the combination we made was better than each of them on their own. So if you have any thoughts on what to monitor, please share.

     

    Here's what I've included so far:

     

    RPC:

    Latency

    Requests

    Number of Slow Packets

     

    Transport Queue Lengths

    Active Non-SMTP Delivery

    Active Remote Delivery

    Aggregate Delivery

    Poison

    Retry Mailbox Delivery

    Retry Non-SMTP Delivery

    Retry Remote Delivery

    Submission

    Unreachable

     

    Search Indices

    Average document indexing time

     


    Regards,

    Johan

  • stwainer Rank: White Belt
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    2. Oct 29, 2009 1:32 PM (in response to Johan Keskitalo)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    You might look here http://blog.dastrup.com/?p=26 I've been using this one for quite some time as it has quite a few great graphs.

     

    steve

  • Matt Ray Rank: Zen Master
    Matt Ray
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    3. Oct 29, 2009 2:43 PM (in response to stwainer)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    It would be worthwhile converting all of those to the new WMI Data 

    Source for security/performance.

     

    Thanks,

    Matt Ray

    Zenoss Community Manager

    community.zenoss.org

    mray@zenoss.com

  • Johan Keskitalo Rank: White Belt
    Johan Keskitalo
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    4. Oct 29, 2009 6:09 PM (in response to stwainer)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    Indeed, especially the RPC Graphs and Virtual Memory Available Graph look interesting to me. Intelligent Mail Filter is only available for 2003, correct? I think the IMF graphs should probably be in a separate template in the Exchange 2003 ZenPack or a ZenPack of it's own because I'm not sure of how widespread the usage of IMF is.

     

    I've started to work on implementing the RPC and Virtual Memory Available Graphs in the WMI Exchange 2003 ZenPack...

    I have a datasource named RPC Averaged Latency with only one query in the current version, but that would  be better handled in a consolidated datasource for all the RPC Performance Counters. However if I were to remove or change the name of the RPC Averaged Latency datasource, it'd break that graph for me and anyone else who uses it. Does anyone know of a way to make the change without losing the history in the graph, like an easy (safe) way to change the name of the RRD file when the ZenPack updates? Does having more datasources than necessary  affect performance much?

     

    Regards,

    Johan

  • stwainer Rank: White Belt
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    5. Oct 29, 2009 6:13 PM (in response to Johan Keskitalo)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    I know IMF came out specifially for Exchange 2003. I use it quite a bit. I'm sure there are a lot of sites who are still on Exchange 2003 and if they are they are also, more than likely, using IMF.

     

    Thanks for all your hard work. Wish I knew enough Python to help.

     

    Steve

  • Johan Keskitalo Rank: White Belt
    Johan Keskitalo
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    6. Oct 29, 2009 7:33 PM (in response to stwainer)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    I'm not sure, I think alot of organizations use 3rd party Anti-Spam servers. The reason i think it should be a seperate template is because if it was in a template bound to a server not using IMF there would be graphs that don't function, and events about the failed queries.

     

    You don't need to know python, i know very little. I just type in the WQL Queries for the WMI Data Source to run using the Zenoss GUI template editor.

    IMF is not in use on any of the Exchange 2003 servers I'm monitoring, so I can't really test it. If I make a template and include it in the ZenPack and send it to you, could you test it before I post it?

     

     

    Thanks,

    Johan

  • Falk Rank: White Belt
    Falk
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    7. Oct 30, 2009 4:07 AM (in response to Johan Keskitalo)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    keski wrote:

     

    I'm not sure, I think alot of organizations use 3rd party Anti-Spam servers. The reason i think it should be a seperate template is because if it was in a template bound to a server not using IMF there would be graphs that don't function, and events about the failed queries.

    Hi,

     

    Yes, I feel the same.
    The spam filter status should be on a separate template.

     

    I found this yesterday:
    http://www.codeplex.com/PAL
    Perhaps there are some interesting thresholds and datasorces to monitor info there.
    I shall lookin to it on the weekend I think.

     

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    Regards Andreas Falk

  • klinstifen Rank: Green Belt
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    8. Oct 30, 2009 11:00 AM (in response to Falk)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.
    I too developed my own Exchange 2003 zenpack.  It uses wmic (been meaning to covert it to WMI) and has a couple different graphs and layouts.  If you want I can package it up and add more to this mega zenpack.  I was going to submit it to zenoss, but if there is going to be a combined version then it'd be better to contribute to that than to have a third exchange 2003 zenpack.  Make sense?
  • Johan Keskitalo Rank: White Belt
    Johan Keskitalo
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    9. Oct 30, 2009 11:12 AM (in response to klinstifen)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    Yep that makes sense. What does it graph?

    I'll try to get done with my updates to the ZenPack today or tomorrow so you can get the latest version and put in your changes.

  • klinstifen Rank: Green Belt
    klinstifen
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    10. Oct 30, 2009 11:27 AM (in response to Johan Keskitalo)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.
    here's some screenshots...
    Attachments:
  • stwainer Rank: White Belt
    stwainer
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    11. Oct 30, 2009 11:42 AM (in response to klinstifen)
    Re: Idea on WMI templates.

    These are all great. Thanks to all of you!

     

    Steve

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