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Created on: Sep 17, 2010 11:20 AM by Matt Ray - Last Modified:  Sep 17, 2010 11:21 AM by Matt Ray

[16-Sep-2010 09:59:58] <mloven> JaneCurry:  I think Avalon is the same as 3.5...  can anyone back me up on that one?

[16-Sep-2010 10:00:19] <klinstifen> huslage: batteling my own upgrade issues right now, but i haven't run across that issue

[16-Sep-2010 10:00:30] <cgibbons> Avalon is the next major release, due in early 2011, which will be 3.5 or 3.1 depending upon what marketing decides

[16-Sep-2010 10:00:31] <fragfutter> cgibbons: would it be an option to say "if you want partitioning use mysql5.1 otherwise 5.0 is fine"? "Partitioning brings you better performance for <insertfeature>".

[16-Sep-2010 10:00:45] <huslage> ok. it seems that this issue isn't getting any love. i'm just gonna downgrade it and be done with it

[16-Sep-2010 10:01:13] <mray> Obviously cgibbons is already here, but jgartman is here to answer questions as well

[16-Sep-2010 10:01:33] <huslage> jgartman ?? ideas?

[16-Sep-2010 10:01:33] <ashp> I see you guys talking about mysql and once again I'm reminded of how much RHEL pisses me off.

[16-Sep-2010 10:01:41] <huslage> lol

[16-Sep-2010 10:01:45] <ashp> We're stuck with 5.0, not wanting to add yet more custom rpms, until RHEL6

[16-Sep-2010 10:01:52] <ashp> and even then it's going to take a while to upgrade all our boxes.

[16-Sep-2010 10:02:03] <cgibbons>  i'm having the argument about 5.1 right now, it's a fun meeting :)

[16-Sep-2010 10:02:34] <fragfutter> ashp: thats what you get for having a stable target. Rolling targets have their own issues

[16-Sep-2010 10:02:36] <ashp> cgibbons: All I can say is that, depending on when 3.1/5 is due out a requirement for 5.1 would be a pain

[16-Sep-2010 10:02:46] <cgibbons> yeah

[16-Sep-2010 10:02:50] <ashp> cgibbons: until RHEL6 releases and redhat are being obnoxious about a release date

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:00] <fragfutter> and debian.

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:09] <mray> cgibbons: we do have access to some sort of RH partner beta mailing list

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:21] <cgibbons> how much lag is there for centos once rhel does a new release?

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:29] <mray> usually a month

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:34] <LarsN> cgibbons: usually 1-3 months

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:35] <mray> for point releases

[16-Sep-2010 10:03:41] <Jane_Curry> just tried zendevicedump on my 3.0.2 and it worked fine - what level are you at?

[16-Sep-2010 10:04:15] <fragfutter> cgibbons, mray: debian lenny is also stuck at 5.0

[16-Sep-2010 10:04:20] <LarsN> major releases are a bit slower cgibbons.

[16-Sep-2010 10:04:51] <chachan> Hi guys, I have a few python script that run as datasources. But, sometimes these scripts break out and send a "No output from plugin" (I use a nagios parser), so, I wonder if there is a way to verbose it a little more the command execution. Did I make myself clear enough?

[16-Sep-2010 10:05:57] <mray> chachan: could the script send it's own output to a log?

[16-Sep-2010 10:06:21] <mray> chachan: I don't think command data sources have access to zenoss' logs

[16-Sep-2010 10:06:35] <mray> chachan: but you could dump to /tmp/myscripts.log

[16-Sep-2010 10:06:53] <fragfutter> wrap your python script in a shell script, inside the shell script pipe all output through tee

[16-Sep-2010 10:09:28] <chachan> Ok, I forgot say something, that problem occurs somethings. It's not a frecuent problem. So, if I execute using zencommand or execute it by hand. It executes right

[16-Sep-2010 10:09:49] <chachan> fragfutter, I tried this. But, as I mentioned, I can't caught the error

[16-Sep-2010 10:10:32] <chachan> I also try with a watch wrapper, but it's complicate to watch for hours the screen looking for an error

[16-Sep-2010 10:10:34] <chachan> :-/

[16-Sep-2010 10:10:42] <chachan> tried*

[16-Sep-2010 10:12:27] <fragfutter> chachan: #!/bin/bash\n/path/to/script.py 2>/tmp/debug_$$.log |tee /tmp/debug_$$.log\n[ $? ] || logger "script failed, check log /tmp/debug_$$.log"

[16-Sep-2010 10:12:30] <chachan> I also get "General error". I think that this is not a useful information :(

[16-Sep-2010 10:12:40] <Jane_Curry> is bigegor there????

[16-Sep-2010 10:13:09] <fragfutter> Jane_Curry: quit about 20 minutes ago

[16-Sep-2010 10:14:03] <chachan> fragfutter, :-o

[16-Sep-2010 10:14:09] <Jane_Curry> aaahh - thanks

[16-Sep-2010 10:14:28] <chachan> ok, that I can wrap it into a "watch"

[16-Sep-2010 10:14:32] <chachan> thx

[16-Sep-2010 10:14:58] <Jane_Curry> anyone else trying to get ZenPacks work in 3.x?

[16-Sep-2010 10:15:20] <LarsN> Jane_Curry: the ones that are Python 2.6, already work.

[16-Sep-2010 10:15:30] <fragfutter> chachan: one misstake || -> &&

 

[16-Sep-2010 10:15:38] <chachan> ok

[16-Sep-2010 10:15:46] <LarsN> Jane_Curry: many of the zenpacks on the site have two versions to download.  One is py2.4-foo.bar

[16-Sep-2010 10:15:55] <LarsN> the other py2.6 (which for Zenoss 3.x you want)

[16-Sep-2010 10:16:23] <fragfutter> LarsN: guess the question is more about porting one jane wrote not using one existing

[16-Sep-2010 10:16:31] <Jane_Curry> You can generally strip off the py2.x and the ZenPack works on the "other" Python release

[16-Sep-2010 10:16:31] <LarsN> fragfutter: ahhhh.

[16-Sep-2010 10:17:03] <LarsN> Jane_Curry, fragfutter: roger.  Nevermind me.  My best quality is.....  I'm almost completely stupid. :)

[16-Sep-2010 10:17:05] <Jane_Curry> I am trying to get the groupreporting one to work

[16-Sep-2010 10:17:25] <Jane_Curry> it's pretty straight forward and worked fine on 2.5.2

[16-Sep-2010 10:17:42] <Jane_Curry> :)

[16-Sep-2010 10:17:58] <Jane_Curry> or was that :(

[16-Sep-2010 10:19:24] <klinstifen> trying to eggify a zip zenpack and i get this error: valueerror: not a registered directory

[16-Sep-2010 10:19:45] <klinstifen> any way to correct that or is it a non issue?

[16-Sep-2010 10:20:53] <fragfutter> cgibbons, mray: shouldn't zenoss 3.0.2 be faster? i have no chagne in system load (io, cpu) from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2

[16-Sep-2010 10:22:54] <LarsN> fragfutter: the interfaces tab improved dramatically from 3.0.1 for me.

[16-Sep-2010 10:23:07] <LarsN> fragfutter: I didn't expect to see any server load changes.

[16-Sep-2010 10:23:18] <mray> fragfutter: the caching patch for the infrastructure is included, so that page is faster

[16-Sep-2010 10:23:32] <mray> but the overall performance on the system is probably the same

[16-Sep-2010 10:23:34] <fragfutter> ah ok.

[16-Sep-2010 10:23:57] <mray> most of the performance stuff is in Subversion already, but isn't tested for 3.0.x

[16-Sep-2010 10:24:27] <mray> there is a thread about getting rrdcache working with 3.0 if you want to patch that in

[16-Sep-2010 10:24:29] <LarsN> mray: did that blog entry ever get published regarding RelStorage on 3.0.2

[16-Sep-2010 10:24:29] <LarsN> ?

[16-Sep-2010 10:24:32] <klinstifen> what are the .egg-link files?

[16-Sep-2010 10:24:49] <LarsN> or is that still up coming.

[16-Sep-2010 10:24:53] <fragfutter> klinstifen: look inside, you will figure it out ;)

[16-Sep-2010 10:25:04] <fragfutter> mray: no need, just curious

[16-Sep-2010 10:25:44] <klinstifen> fragfutter: yeah it is just the path to the folder...but what's the point of the file?

[16-Sep-2010 10:26:05] <mray> LarsN: I'll ping mrchippy about it

[16-Sep-2010 10:26:11] <fragfutter> so zenoss can find an egg without having it in it's own basket

[16-Sep-2010 10:27:00] <LarsN> mray: yet again, you're my hero!

[16-Sep-2010 10:29:31] <klinstifen> trying to follow docs/DOC-2372, but i'm at a loss at step 3...where can i find the .egg file? eggifyzenpack doesnt seem to have created it

[16-Sep-2010 10:32:32] <mray> klinstifen: hmmm… with 3.0?

[16-Sep-2010 10:33:43] <mray> can you still load .zip zenpacks into 3.0?

[16-Sep-2010 10:34:00] <mray> I mean, we deprecated it but I doubt anyone disabled it

[16-Sep-2010 10:34:54] <klinstifen> mray, no 2.5.2. i upgraded to 3.0.1 without heading any of those "zip zenpacks wont work warnings" and lost my custom zip zenpacks.  so i am on a test machine trying to eggify everything

[16-Sep-2010 10:35:15] <klinstifen> and that machine is running 2.5.2

[16-Sep-2010 10:35:48] <mray> klinstifen: it's been awhile, but doesn't eggifyzenpack update the zenpack in place, so you can then export it from the zenpacks list?

[16-Sep-2010 10:37:42] <Parabola|Work> good morning

[16-Sep-2010 10:37:57] <klinstifen> mray, err umm i dunno.  are there any other docs on this besides the link i posted?

[16-Sep-2010 10:39:03] <mray> not that I'm aware of

[16-Sep-2010 10:39:08] <mray> perhaps eggifyzenpack --help?

[16-Sep-2010 10:39:24] <mray> I wrote that doc because there wasn't anything useful

[16-Sep-2010 10:39:34] <klinstifen> gotcha

[16-Sep-2010 10:39:45] <klinstifen> i am exporting right now...i think i was just missing the obvious

[16-Sep-2010 10:40:26] <ericenns> rmatte:

[16-Sep-2010 10:40:55] <ericenns> rmatte: Do you have a test 2.5.2 box?

[16-Sep-2010 10:48:59] <st3v3o> has anyone upgraded to 3.0.2 and broke AD/LDAP auth ?

[16-Sep-2010 10:49:30] <st3v3o> In the zope database I see that that the LDAPMultiPlugins product is broken

[16-Sep-2010 10:49:54] <SEJeff_work> st3v3o, core or enterprise?

[16-Sep-2010 10:49:59] <SEJeff_work> It works fine in enterprise

[16-Sep-2010 10:49:59] <st3v3o> core

[16-Sep-2010 10:50:03] <SEJeff_work> Hmmm

[16-Sep-2010 10:50:57] <st3v3o> yeah put a damper on my upgrade

[16-Sep-2010 10:55:50] <Parabola|Work> hey guys i know this isnt an ssh or linux support channel, but anyone mind sparing a minute to help me with SSH preshared keys

[16-Sep-2010 10:56:18] <Parabola|Work> i've got an article up that rmatte had linked me to the other day, my question is i already tried this once before, is there a good way to "wipe" out any of the keys i may have created testing?

[16-Sep-2010 10:57:28] <jgartman> What do you mean 'wipe out'? You can remove any ssh keys you're not using in your ~/.ssh directory if that's what you're asking.

[16-Sep-2010 10:57:50] <st3v3o> you can delete your .ssh file and start a new …or you can edit it to remove the host that connected

[16-Sep-2010 10:58:20] <Jane_Curry> st3v3o - yup - mine broke from 2.5.2 to 3.0.1

[16-Sep-2010 10:58:20] <LarsN> have any of you tried thise Zenoss/Mindtouch mashup?  docs/DOC-5860

[16-Sep-2010 10:58:48] <st3v3o> Jane_Curry:  Did you have a work around …or still waiting on a fix ?

[16-Sep-2010 10:58:49] <mray> LarsN: I have :)

[16-Sep-2010 10:59:36] <mray> haven't looked into it lately

[16-Sep-2010 10:59:40] <LarsN> mray: we're looking at storing extra data inside Zenoss, such as Terminal Server Ports, PDU/Outlet information.  And our master IP lists.

[16-Sep-2010 10:59:46] <Jane_Curry> I fixed it by basically following the "How to use LDAP for Authentication" doc

[16-Sep-2010 10:59:52] <st3v3o> ok were are event transforms hiding in 3.0.2 :)

[16-Sep-2010 11:00:25] <LarsN> things our developers typically need access to.  I suspect the Wiki is going to be faster, and have a better search function than Zenoss does.  And if it works, I don't have to give all the devs access to our monitoring server.

[16-Sep-2010 11:00:34] <LarsN> I'm going to have to try it out.  :)

[16-Sep-2010 11:00:52] <mray> LarsN: the mashup was mostly intended as a proof of concept, a couple of people have used it

[16-Sep-2010 11:01:09] <ericenns> anyone know where I can find information about factory_type_information

[16-Sep-2010 11:01:13] <Jane_Curry> You probably need tto recompile the python-ldap stuff

[16-Sep-2010 11:01:15] <st3v3o> Jane_curry:  did yours look like this from the zope interface

[16-Sep-2010 11:01:15] <st3v3o> https://zen.arin.net/zport/acl_users/ActiveDirectory/manage_workspace

[16-Sep-2010 11:01:16] <mray> rather than push more stuff into Zenoss, you just keep it in a wiki and link to it via zlinks

[16-Sep-2010 11:01:48] <Jane_Curry> Sorry - can't reach that link..

[16-Sep-2010 11:02:13] <st3v3o> wasn't ment to be a link ..sorry..that is what shows on the screen

[16-Sep-2010 11:02:16] <st3v3o> docs/DOC-2510

[16-Sep-2010 11:02:27] <st3v3o> This is the doc that I followed to set it up the first time

[16-Sep-2010 11:03:07] <mray> st3v3o: event transforms are under Events->Event Classes->Gear menu->Transform

[16-Sep-2010 11:03:10] <st3v3o> did you remove the LDAPUserFolder and LDAPMultiPlugin files and then start and readd them

[16-Sep-2010 11:04:11] <Parabola|Work> alright, this clean zenoss 3.0.2 install has been at 100% going on twenty minutes now

[16-Sep-2010 11:04:22] <Parabola|Work> i know that step takes a little bit of time, but 20min?

[16-Sep-2010 11:04:52] <mray> Parabola: platform/installer?

[16-Sep-2010 11:05:07] <Jane_Curry> I found that they had gone from the Products directory

[16-Sep-2010 11:05:21] <Parabola|Work> Stack installer (.bin) ubuntu 10.04 LTS 32bit

[16-Sep-2010 11:05:25] <Parabola|Work> clean install of OS as well

[16-Sep-2010 11:05:39] <Parabola|Work> its on a pentium d with 1 or 2gb of ram

[16-Sep-2010 11:05:45] <mray> weird, that's a very common target

[16-Sep-2010 11:05:56] <Jane_Curry> Bah!!  Having upgraded to 3.0.2 yesterday, I find my LDAP folders have gone AGAIN from Products

[16-Sep-2010 11:06:10] <Parabola|Work> mray,  ctrl+C ?

[16-Sep-2010 11:06:11] <Parabola|Work> lol

[16-Sep-2010 11:06:18] <Parabola|Work> or is there a log i can change TTys and check out

[16-Sep-2010 11:08:27] <st3v3o> mray: thanks

[16-Sep-2010 11:09:51] <mray> Parabola: I don't have a stack installer handy

[16-Sep-2010 11:10:10] <mray> not sure where the log is for the installer

[16-Sep-2010 11:10:47] <Jane_Curry> re LDAP, goto http://<your zenoss>:8080/zport/manage

[16-Sep-2010 11:11:14] <Jane_Curry> and down acl_users - you will see broken LDAP objects - remove these

[16-Sep-2010 11:12:24] <st3v3o> ok its been removed

[16-Sep-2010 11:13:20] <st3v3o> but I don't see ActiveDirectory or LDAP Plugin under Add ….

[16-Sep-2010 11:13:57] <st3v3o> I do however see the folders $ZENHOME/Products/LDAPMultiPlugin and LDAPUserFolder

[16-Sep-2010 11:17:15] <Jane_Curry> I think you will need to recompile the python-ldap stuff

[16-Sep-2010 11:17:24] <st3v3o> I did it via RPM

[16-Sep-2010 11:17:45] <st3v3o> I"m doing yum update now to verify I'm at latest version

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:06] <Parabola|Work> it finsihed mray

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:08] <Parabola|Work> thanks for your help

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:16] <Jane_Curry> I keep a directory with all the source for python-ldap plus setup.py

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:23] <Jane_Curry> I simply rerun:

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:24] <st3v3o> yep python-ldap is up to date

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:36] <Jane_Curry> python setup.py install

[16-Sep-2010 11:19:56] <st3v3o> what installer did you use for zenoss?

[16-Sep-2010 11:20:04] <Jane_Curry> and this puts compiled code into the correct Zenoss Python directories

[16-Sep-2010 11:20:20] <Parabola|Work> although it wont launch

[16-Sep-2010 11:20:43] <st3v3o> setup.py is the zenoss install script I assume ?

[16-Sep-2010 11:20:51] <Jane_Curry> I believe so

[16-Sep-2010 11:21:04] <Jane_Curry> YOU ALSO NEED TO RESTART zenoss

[16-Sep-2010 11:21:24] <st3v3o> oh I've done that multiple times :)

[16-Sep-2010 11:25:02] mrayzenoss is now known as mray

[16-Sep-2010 11:25:09] <Jane_Curry> I've just redone the process myself after the 3.0.2 upgrade and it seems to have worked again

[16-Sep-2010 11:26:53] <Jane_Curry> The process has put python_ldap-2.3.10-py2.6-linux-i686.egg into

[16-Sep-2010 11:27:36] <st3v3o> http://tinypic.com/r/2cx9855/7

[16-Sep-2010 11:27:38] <Jane_Curry> the directory /usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.6/site-packages

[16-Sep-2010 11:27:47] <st3v3o> you have more stuff in the drop down correct

[16-Sep-2010 11:27:53] <st3v3o> or am I lookin in the wrong place

[16-Sep-2010 11:30:11] <Jane_Curry> soory dont seem to have the plugin to see your tinypic - you do need to see the LDAP Multi Plugin on the dropdown from acl_users

[16-Sep-2010 11:30:49] <st3v3o> yeah I got nothing :?

[16-Sep-2010 11:32:47] <Parabola|Work> woo

[16-Sep-2010 11:32:50] <Parabola|Work> my SSH keys work!

[16-Sep-2010 11:33:06] <Parabola|Work> i do have a question, when is etup the remote collector, in this case 22 is not the port being used

[16-Sep-2010 11:33:10] <Parabola|Work> will i be able to change that

[16-Sep-2010 11:34:22] <st3v3o> hmm…well my mutli-graph reports are bunk also

[16-Sep-2010 11:34:40] <st3v3o> this upgrade was no bueno

[16-Sep-2010 11:34:41] <Jane_Curry> Different topic - changing thresholds in 3.0.2....

[16-Sep-2010 11:34:44] <Parabola|Work> :( it doesnt work

[16-Sep-2010 11:34:56] <Parabola|Work> i can ssh as root with no password, but not as the user "zenoss"

[16-Sep-2010 11:35:36] <Jane_Curry> I have made a local copy of the filesystem template for one machine and changed the threshold value and added a second threshold

[16-Sep-2010 11:35:54] <Jane_Curry> I see the new thresholds on the / filesystem

[16-Sep-2010 11:36:15] <Jane_Curry> but the other 3 filesystem graphs still have the old, single threshold

[16-Sep-2010 11:36:24] <Jane_Curry> Have stopped and restarted zenoss entirely

[16-Sep-2010 11:39:27] <Parabola|Work> oh my god

[16-Sep-2010 11:40:38] <Parabola|Work> i'm following this guide: http://community.spiceworks.com/education/projects/Passwordless_SSH_Using_Shared_Keys and it worked fine for root, but im unable to do this as user "zenoss"

[16-Sep-2010 11:40:56] <Parabola|Work> do i need to create the keys as root, then copy them to the users directories, as root?

[16-Sep-2010 11:41:48] <st3v3o> http://wiki.bambling.org/doku.php?id=linux:ssh:generate_ssh_keys

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:00] <st3v3o> generate the keys as the user you want need them for

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:06] <jgartman> The key for zenoss should be added to the zenoss user's authorized_keys file, somewhere like: /home/zenoss/.ssh/authorized_keys

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:17] <Parabola|Work> st3v3o,  and that doesnt work as zenoss

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:19] <Parabola|Work> it throws up errors

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:22] <jgartman> when you try to shell in as zenoss, it will check that file

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:31] <Parabola|Work> /usr/bin/ssh: /usr/local/zenoss/common/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/ssh)

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:31] <Parabola|Work> lost connection

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:32] <st3v3o> what is the error ?

[16-Sep-2010 11:42:41] <Parabola|Work> worked fine as root

[16-Sep-2010 11:44:15] <jgartman> make sure /home/zenoss/.ssh etc have permissions and ownership setup correctly as well.

[16-Sep-2010 11:45:10] <Parabola|Work> i'll just 777 it

[16-Sep-2010 11:45:22] <jgartman> :[

[16-Sep-2010 11:45:39] <Parabola|Work> you act like i have any fking clue what the default perms should be on that folder

[16-Sep-2010 11:45:41] <Parabola|Work> lol

[16-Sep-2010 11:46:17] <Parabola|Work> im still geting the error

[16-Sep-2010 11:46:29] <Parabola|Work> i googled it

[16-Sep-2010 11:46:30] <Jane_Curry> I think you will find that 777 WONT work - try 600

[16-Sep-2010 11:47:01] <Parabola|Work> i got one result, its for the zenpack im using

[16-Sep-2010 11:47:18] <jgartman> 777 will be too open, 600 or 400 would be better like Jane said.

[16-Sep-2010 11:47:22] <Parabola|Work> its obviously not a perms error jesus

[16-Sep-2010 11:47:30] <Parabola|Work> read it, it says nothing about denied

[16-Sep-2010 11:47:39] <Parabola|Work> its at 600, it works as well as it did at 777

[16-Sep-2010 11:48:01] <mray> is the ssh key for the 'zenoss' user on the remote machine?

[16-Sep-2010 11:48:10] <mray> you said it worked as root

[16-Sep-2010 11:48:51] <Parabola|Work> i cant copy it

[16-Sep-2010 11:49:03] <Parabola|Work> i generated one as root, scp'ed it over as root, everything worked

[16-Sep-2010 11:49:08] <Parabola|Work> i generated one as zenoss, and cannot move it

[16-Sep-2010 11:49:26] <Parabola|Work> /usr/bin/ssh: /usr/local/zenoss/common/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/ssh)

[16-Sep-2010 11:49:56] <Parabola|Work> the result on google was the same zenpack i'm trying to use, but he never mentioned a fix, it was a comment

[16-Sep-2010 11:54:28] <jgartman> If you can't copy the file, could you manually add it?

[16-Sep-2010 11:54:55] <Parabola|Work> trying another way

[16-Sep-2010 11:55:09] <Parabola|Work> logged in as root, moving the key to zenoss folder

[16-Sep-2010 11:55:12] <Parabola|Work> then, chang perms

[16-Sep-2010 11:55:29] <mray> perms and ownership?

[16-Sep-2010 11:55:37] <Parabola|Work> yes

[16-Sep-2010 11:55:48] <Parabola|Work> its not working though, please hold :) *plays hold music*

[16-Sep-2010 11:59:41] <Parabola|Work> well i found half my problem

[16-Sep-2010 11:59:48] <Parabola|Work> when i generate the keys, its not creating a public key file

[16-Sep-2010 12:00:19] <Parabola|Work> ooh i have a "?.pub"

[16-Sep-2010 12:00:40] <Parabola|Work> that can't be good!

[16-Sep-2010 12:05:18] <Jane_Curry> On 3.0.2, can anyone else see output from a remodel on the GUI - I just get a black screen - Firefox 3.5

[16-Sep-2010 12:09:27] <Parabola|Work> FML

[16-Sep-2010 12:09:35] <Parabola|Work> i manually copied the file over, and it still doesnt work

[16-Sep-2010 12:10:23] <jgartman> are you updating authorized_keys as well?

[16-Sep-2010 12:10:35] <Parabola|Work> I replaced the whole damn file

[16-Sep-2010 12:10:43] <Orv> Jane_Curry: Works OK here - output shows as expected.  FF 4.0b6, though...

[16-Sep-2010 12:11:14] <Orv> Check the log - see if the remodel actually ran??

[16-Sep-2010 12:11:55] <jgartman> Parabola|Work: have you looked at the ssh logs or tried ssh -vvv?

[16-Sep-2010 12:12:20] <jgartman> on your remote box try: ssh -vvv zenoss@box, it will dump a bunch of stuff to the screen that might help.

[16-Sep-2010 12:12:51] <jgartman> on your zenoss box you can tail /var/log/secure and see what it says that might be helpful.

[16-Sep-2010 12:13:45] <ballison> i added a HTTP monitor in the gui... how long before i can test it with zencommand ?

[16-Sep-2010 12:14:24] <ballison> I just made a httpmonitor template and bound the template.. then went to terminal to test the http monitor with zencommand and it fails to be checking anything.

[16-Sep-2010 12:14:34] <Parabola|Work> jgartman, i scp'ed the file over as root to another folder, renamed it

[16-Sep-2010 12:14:35] <Parabola|Work> moved it

[16-Sep-2010 12:14:48] <Parabola|Work> i will check thoes, thanks

[16-Sep-2010 12:16:33] <Jane_Curry> Orv - have tried with a Firefox 3.5 on Linux and 3.5.11 on Win - pretty sure the command runs - the black screen flashes white and then goes black

[16-Sep-2010 12:16:47] <Jane_Curry> .. and stays black

[16-Sep-2010 12:22:01] <Jane_Curry>  - just checked Z2.log - the modeler command is sent

[16-Sep-2010 12:22:17] <Jane_Curry> anyone got this working on a Firefox 3.x???

[16-Sep-2010 12:23:53] <Parabola|Work> i tried creating a dsa key instead of rsa

[16-Sep-2010 12:24:07] <Parabola|Work> for whatever reason ,when i export one as the zenoss user the pub key is named "?.pub"

[16-Sep-2010 12:28:13] <Orv> Jane_Curry: Let me try that for you...

[16-Sep-2010 12:29:45] <Jane_Curry> Much appreciated..

[16-Sep-2010 12:30:12] <Orv> Jane_Curry: Works as expect here in FF 3.5.11/Linux.  Screen flashes white, then black, then modeling dialog appears.

[16-Sep-2010 12:30:17] <Orv> er - as expected...

[16-Sep-2010 12:30:44] <Jane_Curry> What Op Sys?

[16-Sep-2010 12:32:09] <Orv> SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11, SP1

[16-Sep-2010 12:32:19] <Orv> openSUSE, basically.

[16-Sep-2010 12:32:45] <Jane_Curry> ok - much the same let me see if I can get a ff 3.5.11 or later

[16-Sep-2010 12:33:59] <Orv> FF 4.0 is looking pretty good at this point in late beta

[16-Sep-2010 12:40:59] <Parabola|Work> i havent used firefox since chrome came out

[16-Sep-2010 12:41:15] <Parabola|Work> i like being able to leave my browser open overnight and not find it eating a gig of ram in the morning

[16-Sep-2010 12:41:43] <Jane_Curry> ok - tried FF 3.6 - the difference is...

[16-Sep-2010 12:41:57] <Jane_Curry> .. just the black screen - no white flash first!

[16-Sep-2010 12:42:15] <Orv> Same computer?  Maybe it's time to clear browser cache?

[16-Sep-2010 12:42:24] <Orv> pop up blocker?

[16-Sep-2010 12:42:27] <Orv> adblock?

[16-Sep-2010 12:42:30] * Orv guesses...

[16-Sep-2010 12:47:48] <suprsonic> what distrib of zenoss is the easiest to upgrade between releases?

[16-Sep-2010 12:48:07] <suprsonic> I've been running src on FreeBSD and its like pulling teeth to upgrade.\

[16-Sep-2010 12:50:06] <Orv> suprsonic: Seems like the stack installers are pretty easy to upgrade. Even I can do it :-)

[16-Sep-2010 12:50:19] <Orv> And they're available for quite a few distros

[16-Sep-2010 12:50:30] <Orv> I'm running it on CentOS - no issues.

[16-Sep-2010 12:50:45] <ericenns> I'm also running on CentOS no issues

[16-Sep-2010 12:51:19] <mray> CentOS/RHEL/Ubuntu are the most popular and therefore, the most tested

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