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mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Developers are here to answer your questions (9:58:47 AM)
9:59:37 AM Troubadix09: mray: I have a question about templates
10:00:54 AM Troubadix09: mray: is it possible to assign a new template wich is installed with a new ZenPack
10:01:18 AM Troubadix09: mray: and bind to a device-class
10:01:50 AM Troubadix09: mray: that existing devices bind them automatically, such as new devices do?
10:01:55 AM twm1010: chemist: is zenactions daemon running?
10:02:32 AM twm1010: troubadix: if you bind a template to a device class, all devices in the class receive that binding, unless locally overridden
10:05:09 AM Troubadix09: mray: hm... I think so, but why not in my Zenoss Install? (Virtual Appliance with Zenoss 2.4.5) :-(
10:05:44 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: I don't believe ZenPacks automatically bind to new templates
10:06:12 AM mrayzenoss: err... device classes automatically bind to templates delivered via ZenPack
10:07:32 AM rmatte: http://pastebin.com/m7445b476 --- The parser commands that I'm specifying in this script are completely getting overriden by one of the Zenoss imports that I'm doing, can anyone think of a way around this?
10:07:47 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: you can modify the ZenPack to change the bindings of your desired ZenPack
10:07:48 AM rmatte: They work perfectly fine if I put them in a script by themselves
10:07:58 AM aclark: *waves*
10:08:05 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: I mean the bindings of your desired DeviceClass.
10:08:07 AM mrayzenoss: aclark: howdy
10:08:45 AM iancmcc: rmatte: The option parsing?
10:09:00 AM Troubadix09: mray: I know, I bind a template come with the WMIPerf_Windows-ZenPack manually to the class /device/Server/Windows
10:09:06 AM rmatte: iancmcc: yeh, it outputs a bunch of other zenoss specific options instead of the ones I want
10:10:30 AM iancmcc: rmatte: Checking, I believe there's a way to stifle ZenScriptBase's option parsing
10:10:30 AM iancmcc: rmatte: pass noopts=True into the ZenScriptBase constructor
10:10:31 AM Troubadix09: mray: when i add new devices to this class, they have bind the template and use it
10:10:45 AM rmatte: iancmcc: thanks, I'll try that
10:10:55 AM Troubadix09: mray: but the existing devices in that class wouldn't
10:11:22 AM rmatte: works like a charm, thanks so much
10:12:29 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: hmmm... so existing devices dont' get updated, but new devices pick up the binding when they're added to the device class?
10:12:44 AM mrayzenoss: have you remodeled the old devices?
10:12:58 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: Do the existing devices have their own values set?
10:13:25 AM Troubadix09: mray: yes, i remodel
10:15:44 AM rmatte: hey iancmcc, one more question, if you look at that code again... is there anything special that I need to do to set variables based on those options?
10:15:57 AM rmatte: I was under the impression that dest= represented the variable name?
10:16:04 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: there are three templates binded to the devices, two of them are "Local Copy" but not the new template
10:16:35 AM iancmcc: rmatte: That's correct, e.g. options.startDate should have your value
10:16:47 AM rmatte: oh, it's options.startDate
10:16:50 AM rmatte: gotcha, thanks
10:17:38 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: Sounds like they have their own values, which means they won't inherit new template bindings from the device class
10:17:49 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: You'll have to either reset the bindings or add the binding manually
10:20:55 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: mray: thank you, i will try it manually
10:22:21 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: I have another question...
10:25:05 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: is it possible to copy Data Sources in a Template? Because sometimes there are snmp-DataSources where only the last OID-Value is different
10:25:42 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: and it would be nice to only change the deltas
10:26:14 AM metalklesk: does anyone see the memory (ram, swap, cache) in zenoss using suse, fedora or ubuntu zenpack ?
10:26:25 AM metalklesk: i mean total, used and free memory
10:27:10 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: the Menue of the Data-Sources only show "Add, Delete and Add to Graphs"
10:27:19 AM corey: hi
10:28:18 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: I guess you'd need to use zendmd: docs/DOC-2532
10:28:31 AM ckrough: anyone have a link for downloading OpenManage Mibs? trying to search their site results in printers for sale.
corey is now known as kmtsun (10:32:37 AM)
10:32:40 AM cgibbons: hmmm
10:32:49 AM cgibbons: ian sure got a lot more questions than I did a couple of weeks ago :)
10:33:13 AM metalklesk: cgibbons, spit it out !
10:33:13 AM Troubadix09: mray: hmm... is this planned to implement in WebGui?
10:33:46 AM rmatte: hehe
10:34:31 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: I'd ask iancmcc :)
10:34:44 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: No.
10:34:46 AM ckrough: ouch
10:35:24 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: go ahead and open a ticket as an enhancement, I know the templates are supposed to get some attention in the Stone Crab release
10:35:30 AM mrayzenoss: and we can discuss it then
10:35:50 AM aclark: Are links to 2.5 beta avail without registering on zenoss.com ?
10:35:54 AM mrayzenoss: yeah
10:36:06 AM mrayzenoss: http://www.zenoss.com/beta/2.5/
10:36:16 AM mrayzenoss: "Skip registration, go straight to download"
10:37:01 AM aclark: mrayzenoss: thanks
10:37:13 AM mrayzenoss: aclark: thanks for checking out the beta :)
10:37:39 AM aclark: mrayzenoss: no prob! excited about it (and zenoss in general as you can tell ;-)
10:39:15 AM kmtsun: @aclark4life I'm have trouble with my smtp monitoring, the service is up but I'm getting msgs: IP service smtp is down
10:40:09 AM aclark: kmtsun: i'm just a n00b
10:41:02 AM metalklesk: kmtsun, did you open the port of snmp service in your firewall ?
10:41:04 AM aclark: kmtsun: but there are experts here :-)
10:41:26 AM metalklesk: service up means that you can do a ping to teh device
10:41:27 AM kmtsun: ok thakns
10:41:37 AM kmtsun: no firewall
10:42:01 AM kmtsun: i have it monitoring 30 bsd jails and im only having trouble with 2 of them
10:42:07 AM metalklesk: what port are you using to snmp ? 161 ? 162 ?
10:42:09 AM kmtsun: the rest are showing smtp up
10:42:14 AM metalklesk: mmm
10:42:23 AM metalklesk: sorry i missupderstood
10:42:32 AM metalklesk: *missunderstood
10:42:45 AM metalklesk: snmp != smtp
10:42:47 AM metalklesk: :P
10:45:13 AM iancmcc: kmtsun: Try telnetting from the zenoss server to narrow it down to zenoss or network
10:45:23 AM kmtsun: ok
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Trying x.x.x.x...
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Connected to xxx.xxx.com.
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Escape character is '^]'.
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Connection closed by foreign host.
10:46:54 AM iancmcc: you connected to SMTP port, I assume
10:47:09 AM kmtsun: yes telnet host 25
10:47:46 AM kmtsun: i did a netstat -al and it is listening on *.* 25
10:47:57 AM iancmcc: I don't know the answer. Try remodeling the box.
10:48:30 AM kmtsun: that means to delete the box from the zenoss db and let it rediscover it"?
10:48:39 AM metalklesk: nop
10:48:42 AM iancmcc: don't need to delete it, just remodel
10:49:04 AM metalklesk: that means - manage - model device
10:49:07 AM kmtsun: ok
10:49:52 AM metalklesk: how can i see the used, free, total ram memory ? and swap too
10:49:59 AM kmtsun: thank you .. its a going
10:50:14 AM metalklesk: using snmp no problem, but via ssh i can't see it
10:53:28 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: which SSH ZenPacks?
10:53:42 AM mrayzenoss: do you have installed? LinuxMonitor by itself is pretty vanilla
10:53:58 AM metalklesk: mandriva (the one i send you), suse, ubuntu
10:54:15 AM metalklesk: yes, i have linuxmonitor and linuxmonitoraddon installed
10:54:59 AM kmtsun: ack events... remodeled.... smtp red still exist... i will try restarting the jail
10:55:43 AM metalklesk: in zproperties i deleted ram from zFileSystemMapIgnoreTypes as i did with other device monitored by snmp
10:56:21 AM Troubadix09: mrayzenoss: thanks, i will open a ticket and we will seen what happend in Stone Crab :-)
10:56:28 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: are you talking about memory graphs on the Perf tab?
10:56:47 AM metalklesk: in the snmp monitored device, in filesystem i can see swap and ram (total, used and free) but with the zenpack i can't
10:57:02 AM metalklesk: memory graph AND in filesystem :(
10:57:47 AM metalklesk: in collector plugins i have zenoss.cmd.linux.memory selected
10:58:33 AM metalklesk: in hardware i can see the total memory and total swap
10:59:01 AM metalklesk: but i can't see the important information of ram and swap in filesystem (total, used and free)
10:59:51 AM kmtsun: i resarted the jail.. and remodeled... im showing this now: ip service smtp timeout waiting for '220'
11:02:06 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: my 2.4.5 box monitoring Linux via SNMP has memory and CPU on the Perf tab
11:02:22 AM mrayzenoss: Load Average, CPU Utilization, Memory Utilization, IO
11:02:28 AM metalklesk: yes, i know
11:02:39 AM mrayzenoss: sorry, I thought you were saying those were on the OS tab
11:02:48 AM iancmcc: kmtsun: message/14824#14824
11:02:52 AM metalklesk: :P
11:03:11 AM mrayzenoss: ok, so none of those graphs are on the Perf tab using /Server/SSH/Linux/ ?
11:03:21 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: are the templates all bound?
11:03:26 AM metalklesk: just cpu
11:03:45 AM metalklesk: how can i see that ?
11:03:56 AM iancmcc: kmtsun: This is more informative, actually message/12865#12865
11:04:16 AM motdman: Hello, help with filesystems freeblock Usedblocks AIX
11:04:37 AM motdman: missing rrd files
11:04:49 AM metalklesk: graphs are one thing, but filesystem is another
11:04:53 AM metalklesk: i mean
11:05:05 AM metalklesk: 2 problems i see with ssh based zenpack
11:05:06 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: http:/yourserver:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/SSH/perfConfig
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: Name Definition Path Description
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: Device /Devices/Server/SSH
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: FileSystem /Devices/Server Filesystem template that uses HOST-RESOURCES mib. Has a 90% threshold.
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: IpService /Devices Place holder for future use.
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: OSProcess /Devices Monitors for OSProcess object
11:06:00 AM metalklesk: WinService /Devices Place holder for future use.
11:06:02 AM metalklesk: ethernetCsmacd /Devices Standard ethernet interface template with 75% utilization threshold
11:06:04 AM metalklesk: ethernetCsmacd_64
11:06:58 AM metalklesk: bad idea to copy thos lines, sorry
11:08:28 AM metalklesk: this are the templates in the page you said: device,filesystem,ipservice,osprocess,winservice,ethernetcsmacd,ethernetcsmacd_64
11:08:43 AM mrayzenoss: yeah, I'm installing that ZenPack now to look around
11:09:05 AM metalklesk: thanks !!!
11:10:24 AM motdman: How do I get the filesystem usedblocks freeblocks in AIX
11:11:28 AM motdman: If I use the linux model device on AIX, it is displayed.
11:11:33 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: are you using docs/DOC-3454 ?
11:12:27 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: I've heard very mixed reviews about the quality of the SNMP daemons on AIX
11:12:43 AM mrayzenoss: jb and rocket can attest
11:13:25 AM motdman: I worked with IBM to get the xmservd mibs to work and all looks good except for filesystem
11:13:40 AM motdman: Actually it is quite impressive regarding the info in place already
11:14:16 AM motdman: You don't need net-snmp
11:15:21 AM motdman: Another thing is that it does't give you the CPU size, only the speed
11:16:39 AM motdman: I would use the linux model for filesystem, but I would lose the volumegroup level and hdisk info.
11:16:50 AM Troubadix09: bye
11:17:30 AM iancmcc: see ya troubadix
11:20:10 AM metalklesk: mrayzenoss, did you see the problem i told you with the zenpack ? :)
11:20:46 AM motdman: I used the DOC-3454 but that pointed me to the cacti setup which is somewhat outdated now.
11:22:13 AM motdman: Why can the linux model pull the aix data I need and not the aix model for filesystem?
11:23:39 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: yeah, looks like the defautl LinuxMonitor is just CPU Utilization
11:24:11 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: why not just copy the Linux Device Class and call it AIX?
11:24:54 AM motdman: I could but I would lose the VG LV and hdisk info which is pretty cool stuff.
11:25:28 AM motdman: the Aix model is very cool but just missing that one piece
11:25:55 AM motdman: not sure why it wasn't included in the build, unless I am missing something
11:26:31 AM mrayzenoss: well, it's a community ZenPack, so the author probably didn't run into your use-case
11:26:50 AM motdman: What I do know is that is it not generating the rrd data for this particular issue
11:27:05 AM motdman: The linux model does pull the appropriate rrd...go figure
11:28:09 AM motdman: I would think getting alerts on filesystem free/used would be at the top of the list.
11:28:53 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: feel free to dig into the ZenPack, comment on the thread on the page for it or submit a patch to the author
11:30:01 AM metalklesk: mrayzenoss, so what can WE do to fix the problem ?
11:30:03 AM metalklesk: :P
11:30:20 AM motdman: Do you know if the author built in this functionality or am I not configuring this correctly.
11:30:39 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: no idea, no AIX on my side
11:31:01 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: you can submit a patch to the LinuxMonitor or the LinuxMonitorAddon
11:31:10 AM motdman: There is not much info on this out there...too bad cause it is a great product regarding AIX
11:31:24 AM metalklesk: ok
11:31:34 AM metalklesk: i will investigate how can i fix that
11:31:35 AM metalklesk: :)
11:31:58 AM mrayzenoss: ok, I'm gonna call that an end to the session, iancmcc is off the hook
mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Developers are here to answer your questions (9:58:47 AM)
9:59:37 AM Troubadix09: mray: I have a question about templates
10:00:54 AM Troubadix09: mray: is it possible to assign a new template wich is installed with a new ZenPack
10:01:18 AM Troubadix09: mray: and bind to a device-class
10:01:50 AM Troubadix09: mray: that existing devices bind them automatically, such as new devices do?
10:01:55 AM twm1010: chemist: is zenactions daemon running?
10:02:32 AM twm1010: troubadix: if you bind a template to a device class, all devices in the class receive that binding, unless locally overridden
10:05:09 AM Troubadix09: mray: hm... I think so, but why not in my Zenoss Install? (Virtual Appliance with Zenoss 2.4.5) :-(
10:05:44 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: I don't believe ZenPacks automatically bind to new templates
10:06:12 AM mrayzenoss: err... device classes automatically bind to templates delivered via ZenPack
10:07:32 AM rmatte: http://pastebin.com/m7445b476 --- The parser commands that I'm specifying in this script are completely getting overriden by one of the Zenoss imports that I'm doing, can anyone think of a way around this?
10:07:47 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: you can modify the ZenPack to change the bindings of your desired ZenPack
10:07:48 AM rmatte: They work perfectly fine if I put them in a script by themselves
10:07:58 AM aclark: *waves*
10:08:05 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: I mean the bindings of your desired DeviceClass.
10:08:07 AM mrayzenoss: aclark: howdy
10:08:45 AM iancmcc: rmatte: The option parsing?
10:09:00 AM Troubadix09: mray: I know, I bind a template come with the WMIPerf_Windows-ZenPack manually to the class /device/Server/Windows
10:09:06 AM rmatte: iancmcc: yeh, it outputs a bunch of other zenoss specific options instead of the ones I want
10:10:30 AM iancmcc: rmatte: Checking, I believe there's a way to stifle ZenScriptBase's option parsing
10:10:30 AM iancmcc: rmatte: pass noopts=True into the ZenScriptBase constructor
10:10:31 AM Troubadix09: mray: when i add new devices to this class, they have bind the template and use it
10:10:45 AM rmatte: iancmcc: thanks, I'll try that
10:10:55 AM Troubadix09: mray: but the existing devices in that class wouldn't
10:11:22 AM rmatte: works like a charm, thanks so much
10:12:29 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: hmmm... so existing devices dont' get updated, but new devices pick up the binding when they're added to the device class?
10:12:44 AM mrayzenoss: have you remodeled the old devices?
10:12:58 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: Do the existing devices have their own values set?
10:13:25 AM Troubadix09: mray: yes, i remodel
10:15:44 AM rmatte: hey iancmcc, one more question, if you look at that code again... is there anything special that I need to do to set variables based on those options?
10:15:57 AM rmatte: I was under the impression that dest= represented the variable name?
10:16:04 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: there are three templates binded to the devices, two of them are "Local Copy" but not the new template
10:16:35 AM iancmcc: rmatte: That's correct, e.g. options.startDate should have your value
10:16:47 AM rmatte: oh, it's options.startDate
10:16:50 AM rmatte: gotcha, thanks
10:17:38 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: Sounds like they have their own values, which means they won't inherit new template bindings from the device class
10:17:49 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: You'll have to either reset the bindings or add the binding manually
10:20:55 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: mray: thank you, i will try it manually
10:22:21 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: I have another question...
10:25:05 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: is it possible to copy Data Sources in a Template? Because sometimes there are snmp-DataSources where only the last OID-Value is different
10:25:42 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: and it would be nice to only change the deltas
10:26:14 AM metalklesk: does anyone see the memory (ram, swap, cache) in zenoss using suse, fedora or ubuntu zenpack ?
10:26:25 AM metalklesk: i mean total, used and free memory
10:27:10 AM Troubadix09: iancmcc: the Menue of the Data-Sources only show "Add, Delete and Add to Graphs"
10:27:19 AM corey: hi
10:28:18 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: I guess you'd need to use zendmd: docs/DOC-2532
10:28:31 AM ckrough: anyone have a link for downloading OpenManage Mibs? trying to search their site results in printers for sale.
corey is now known as kmtsun (10:32:37 AM)
10:32:40 AM cgibbons: hmmm
10:32:49 AM cgibbons: ian sure got a lot more questions than I did a couple of weeks ago :)
10:33:13 AM metalklesk: cgibbons, spit it out !
10:33:13 AM Troubadix09: mray: hmm... is this planned to implement in WebGui?
10:33:46 AM rmatte: hehe
10:34:31 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: I'd ask iancmcc :)
10:34:44 AM iancmcc: Troubadix09: No.
10:34:46 AM ckrough: ouch
10:35:24 AM mrayzenoss: Troubadix09: go ahead and open a ticket as an enhancement, I know the templates are supposed to get some attention in the Stone Crab release
10:35:30 AM mrayzenoss: and we can discuss it then
10:35:50 AM aclark: Are links to 2.5 beta avail without registering on zenoss.com ?
10:35:54 AM mrayzenoss: yeah
10:36:06 AM mrayzenoss: http://www.zenoss.com/beta/2.5/
10:36:16 AM mrayzenoss: "Skip registration, go straight to download"
10:37:01 AM aclark: mrayzenoss: thanks
10:37:13 AM mrayzenoss: aclark: thanks for checking out the beta :)
10:37:39 AM aclark: mrayzenoss: no prob! excited about it (and zenoss in general as you can tell ;-)
10:39:15 AM kmtsun: @aclark4life I'm have trouble with my smtp monitoring, the service is up but I'm getting msgs: IP service smtp is down
10:40:09 AM aclark: kmtsun: i'm just a n00b
10:41:02 AM metalklesk: kmtsun, did you open the port of snmp service in your firewall ?
10:41:04 AM aclark: kmtsun: but there are experts here :-)
10:41:26 AM metalklesk: service up means that you can do a ping to teh device
10:41:27 AM kmtsun: ok thakns
10:41:37 AM kmtsun: no firewall
10:42:01 AM kmtsun: i have it monitoring 30 bsd jails and im only having trouble with 2 of them
10:42:07 AM metalklesk: what port are you using to snmp ? 161 ? 162 ?
10:42:09 AM kmtsun: the rest are showing smtp up
10:42:14 AM metalklesk: mmm
10:42:23 AM metalklesk: sorry i missupderstood
10:42:32 AM metalklesk: *missunderstood
10:42:45 AM metalklesk: snmp != smtp
10:42:47 AM metalklesk: :P
10:45:13 AM iancmcc: kmtsun: Try telnetting from the zenoss server to narrow it down to zenoss or network
10:45:23 AM kmtsun: ok
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Trying x.x.x.x...
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Connected to xxx.xxx.com.
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Escape character is '^]'.
10:46:34 AM kmtsun: Connection closed by foreign host.
10:46:54 AM iancmcc: you connected to SMTP port, I assume
10:47:09 AM kmtsun: yes telnet host 25
10:47:46 AM kmtsun: i did a netstat -al and it is listening on *.* 25
10:47:57 AM iancmcc: I don't know the answer. Try remodeling the box.
10:48:30 AM kmtsun: that means to delete the box from the zenoss db and let it rediscover it"?
10:48:39 AM metalklesk: nop
10:48:42 AM iancmcc: don't need to delete it, just remodel
10:49:04 AM metalklesk: that means - manage - model device
10:49:07 AM kmtsun: ok
10:49:52 AM metalklesk: how can i see the used, free, total ram memory ? and swap too
10:49:59 AM kmtsun: thank you .. its a going
10:50:14 AM metalklesk: using snmp no problem, but via ssh i can't see it
10:53:28 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: which SSH ZenPacks?
10:53:42 AM mrayzenoss: do you have installed? LinuxMonitor by itself is pretty vanilla
10:53:58 AM metalklesk: mandriva (the one i send you), suse, ubuntu
10:54:15 AM metalklesk: yes, i have linuxmonitor and linuxmonitoraddon installed
10:54:59 AM kmtsun: ack events... remodeled.... smtp red still exist... i will try restarting the jail
10:55:43 AM metalklesk: in zproperties i deleted ram from zFileSystemMapIgnoreTypes as i did with other device monitored by snmp
10:56:21 AM Troubadix09: mrayzenoss: thanks, i will open a ticket and we will seen what happend in Stone Crab :-)
10:56:28 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: are you talking about memory graphs on the Perf tab?
10:56:47 AM metalklesk: in the snmp monitored device, in filesystem i can see swap and ram (total, used and free) but with the zenpack i can't
10:57:02 AM metalklesk: memory graph AND in filesystem :(
10:57:47 AM metalklesk: in collector plugins i have zenoss.cmd.linux.memory selected
10:58:33 AM metalklesk: in hardware i can see the total memory and total swap
10:59:01 AM metalklesk: but i can't see the important information of ram and swap in filesystem (total, used and free)
10:59:51 AM kmtsun: i resarted the jail.. and remodeled... im showing this now: ip service smtp timeout waiting for '220'
11:02:06 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: my 2.4.5 box monitoring Linux via SNMP has memory and CPU on the Perf tab
11:02:22 AM mrayzenoss: Load Average, CPU Utilization, Memory Utilization, IO
11:02:28 AM metalklesk: yes, i know
11:02:39 AM mrayzenoss: sorry, I thought you were saying those were on the OS tab
11:02:48 AM iancmcc: kmtsun: message/14824#14824
11:02:52 AM metalklesk: :P
11:03:11 AM mrayzenoss: ok, so none of those graphs are on the Perf tab using /Server/SSH/Linux/ ?
11:03:21 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: are the templates all bound?
11:03:26 AM metalklesk: just cpu
11:03:45 AM metalklesk: how can i see that ?
11:03:56 AM iancmcc: kmtsun: This is more informative, actually message/12865#12865
11:04:16 AM motdman: Hello, help with filesystems freeblock Usedblocks AIX
11:04:37 AM motdman: missing rrd files
11:04:49 AM metalklesk: graphs are one thing, but filesystem is another
11:04:53 AM metalklesk: i mean
11:05:05 AM metalklesk: 2 problems i see with ssh based zenpack
11:05:06 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: http:/yourserver:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/SSH/perfConfig
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: Name Definition Path Description
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: Device /Devices/Server/SSH
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: FileSystem /Devices/Server Filesystem template that uses HOST-RESOURCES mib. Has a 90% threshold.
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: IpService /Devices Place holder for future use.
11:05:59 AM metalklesk: OSProcess /Devices Monitors for OSProcess object
11:06:00 AM metalklesk: WinService /Devices Place holder for future use.
11:06:02 AM metalklesk: ethernetCsmacd /Devices Standard ethernet interface template with 75% utilization threshold
11:06:04 AM metalklesk: ethernetCsmacd_64
11:06:58 AM metalklesk: bad idea to copy thos lines, sorry
11:08:28 AM metalklesk: this are the templates in the page you said: device,filesystem,ipservice,osprocess,winservice,ethernetcsmacd,ethernetcsmacd_64
11:08:43 AM mrayzenoss: yeah, I'm installing that ZenPack now to look around
11:09:05 AM metalklesk: thanks !!!
11:10:24 AM motdman: How do I get the filesystem usedblocks freeblocks in AIX
11:11:28 AM motdman: If I use the linux model device on AIX, it is displayed.
11:11:33 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: are you using docs/DOC-3454 ?
11:12:27 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: I've heard very mixed reviews about the quality of the SNMP daemons on AIX
11:12:43 AM mrayzenoss: jb and rocket can attest
11:13:25 AM motdman: I worked with IBM to get the xmservd mibs to work and all looks good except for filesystem
11:13:40 AM motdman: Actually it is quite impressive regarding the info in place already
11:14:16 AM motdman: You don't need net-snmp
11:15:21 AM motdman: Another thing is that it does't give you the CPU size, only the speed
11:16:39 AM motdman: I would use the linux model for filesystem, but I would lose the volumegroup level and hdisk info.
11:16:50 AM Troubadix09: bye
11:17:30 AM iancmcc: see ya troubadix
11:20:10 AM metalklesk: mrayzenoss, did you see the problem i told you with the zenpack ? :)
11:20:46 AM motdman: I used the DOC-3454 but that pointed me to the cacti setup which is somewhat outdated now.
11:22:13 AM motdman: Why can the linux model pull the aix data I need and not the aix model for filesystem?
11:23:39 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: yeah, looks like the defautl LinuxMonitor is just CPU Utilization
11:24:11 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: why not just copy the Linux Device Class and call it AIX?
11:24:54 AM motdman: I could but I would lose the VG LV and hdisk info which is pretty cool stuff.
11:25:28 AM motdman: the Aix model is very cool but just missing that one piece
11:25:55 AM motdman: not sure why it wasn't included in the build, unless I am missing something
11:26:31 AM mrayzenoss: well, it's a community ZenPack, so the author probably didn't run into your use-case
11:26:50 AM motdman: What I do know is that is it not generating the rrd data for this particular issue
11:27:05 AM motdman: The linux model does pull the appropriate rrd...go figure
11:28:09 AM motdman: I would think getting alerts on filesystem free/used would be at the top of the list.
11:28:53 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: feel free to dig into the ZenPack, comment on the thread on the page for it or submit a patch to the author
11:30:01 AM metalklesk: mrayzenoss, so what can WE do to fix the problem ?
11:30:03 AM metalklesk: :P
11:30:20 AM motdman: Do you know if the author built in this functionality or am I not configuring this correctly.
11:30:39 AM mrayzenoss: motdman: no idea, no AIX on my side
11:31:01 AM mrayzenoss: metalklesk: you can submit a patch to the LinuxMonitor or the LinuxMonitorAddon
11:31:10 AM motdman: There is not much info on this out there...too bad cause it is a great product regarding AIX
11:31:24 AM metalklesk: ok
11:31:34 AM metalklesk: i will investigate how can i fix that
11:31:35 AM metalklesk: :)
11:31:58 AM mrayzenoss: ok, I'm gonna call that an end to the session, iancmcc is off the hook
