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[03-Jan-2007 11:46:16] <Hafid> Does zenoss autodiscovery over CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) ???
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[03-Jan-2007 13:53:25] <EZ> i'm new to zenoss and need some help setting it up
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[03-Jan-2007 13:59:19] <EZ> is anybody online?
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[03-Jan-2007 19:34:04] <mike-ekim> hrello
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[04-Jan-2007 01:47:00] <nassy> hi, i am trying to install zenoss on mac os x. mysql5 is installed using a system called macports (darwinports). mysql can be found in /opt/local/bin ... etc.. i got zenoss to build but am having problem when it tries to login to the database.
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:07] <nassy> the error i get is
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:15] <nassy> build.sh: line 69: mysql: command not found mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:31] <nassy> i used mysql root user
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:56] <nassy> MySQL username for Zenoss events database [zenoss]: root
[04-Jan-2007 01:48:47] <nassy> and mysql5 -u root -p works with the same password
[04-Jan-2007 01:48:58] <nassy> any ideas what i can do?
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[04-Jan-2007 03:38:55] <DeuX-Office> does kudos support AIX and HP-UX ?
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[04-Jan-2007 13:35:06] <mike-ekim> to have more than one device, do I need a individual user account for each to each have their own notification settings or alters?
[04-Jan-2007 13:35:10] <mike-ekim> alerts*
[04-Jan-2007 13:35:16] <mike-ekim> IM kind of new to this application
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[04-Jan-2007 15:15:31] <lawndog23> anybody here?
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[04-Jan-2007 16:55:31] <lawndog23> does zenoss have a package for suse 10.2
[04-Jan-2007 16:55:33] <lawndog23> ???
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[05-Jan-2007 12:37:06] <NotMarkFoley> anyone alive?
[05-Jan-2007 12:51:20] <NotMarkFoley> well at least you make up for a lack of extensive documentation with an active irc channel.
[05-Jan-2007 13:34:17] <monrad>
[05-Jan-2007 13:34:32] <monrad> well i guess some of us have to get some work done also
[05-Jan-2007 13:39:58] <NotMarkFoley> heh
[05-Jan-2007 13:42:49] <NotMarkFoley> I actually got the answer to my question from the mailing list.
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[06-Jan-2007 06:08:59] <nassy> i (finally) got zenoss to install on mac os x (with mysql installed via macports in /opt). i manually added a few devices that are monitored with the default (settings). i have a history of a few events (device turned off) for one of he devices and zenoss shows it in its history. however, i have two problems: 1, i don't see anything in the events tab. it says 1 of 0 being displayed (thats what it said before i set up an
[06-Jan-2007 06:09:16] <nassy> any idea how to troubleshoot and fix thi one
[06-Jan-2007 06:09:20] <nassy> ideas
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[06-Jan-2007 09:01:00] <nassy> i think i narrowed down what may be the source of my problem with the perf graphs on mac os x. it look like RRD is not saving any data to the perf folder. anyone know how i can roubleshoot. is there a way to manually run the RRD graphing procedure and then check some kind of log
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[06-Jan-2007 14:54:31] <stfn> hi, there's no topic set but I presume this channel is related to http://zenoss.com/ ...can anyone direct me to the licensing terms for this "open source" software? I've been unable to find any mention of a license on the website
[06-Jan-2007 14:54:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Zenoss Home : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2007 14:57:20] <stfn> never mind, I found it: http://zenoss.com/docs/eula
[06-Jan-2007 14:57:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : End User License Agreement : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2007 14:58:09] *** stfn changes topic to "http://zenoss.com/"
[06-Jan-2007 15:01:36] <stfn> I am not a lawyer but clauses 2 and 3 seem to contradict clause 1
[06-Jan-2007 15:01:53] <stfn> clause 1 says "nothing in this Agreement will be construed to limit any rights granted under the GPL"
[06-Jan-2007 15:02:26] <stfn> yet clause 2 says "You may not remove or alter any copyright or other proprietary notice in or on the Product."
[06-Jan-2007 15:03:20] <stfn> so can I fork and release under the GPL while renaming to software to not include any zenoss trademarks or not?
[06-Jan-2007 15:05:57] <stfn> if I did release a fork under the GPL that contains no zenoss trademarks that would seem to violate clause 2 of the EULA which triggers clause 3
[06-Jan-2007 15:06:14] <stfn> clause 3 says "Upon termination, you must destroy all copies of the Product."
[06-Jan-2007 15:07:01] <nassy> stfn: i asked a few questions on the channel but have not yet received any response. you may have better luck posting your question to the mailing list
[06-Jan-2007 15:07:10] <stfn> but don't I still have a right to use and distribute the software under the terms of the GPL?
[06-Jan-2007 15:07:25] <stfn> nassy: ok, thanks
[06-Jan-2007 15:08:12] <nassy> by any chance do you know how the RRD integrates with zenoss
[06-Jan-2007 15:08:26] <nassy> i have a problem where the data is not being saved in perf
[06-Jan-2007 15:08:55] <nassy> and i would like to run the script manually to see if i can figure out why
[06-Jan-2007 15:09:12] <nassy> my perf folder is completely empty
[06-Jan-2007 15:09:42] <stfn> no idea, I'd only first heard of zenoss a few minutes ago (there'll be a talk about it at PyCon this year)
[06-Jan-2007 15:10:18] <nassy> ok
[06-Jan-2007 15:11:50] <nassy> thanks anyway
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[07-Jan-2007 01:52:06] <doofoo> I had a few questions regarding zenoss, been fiddling around with it personally getting ready for a rollout in a smaller size enviornment (few hundred devices). First question: - When acking alerts that are coming through, I noticed that there is a + to view details of the alert, and a field "LOG" under which it appears that you would be able to put comments as to why you ack'd the alert. Is this possible? I can not find it anywhere
[07-Jan-2007 01:53:58] <doofoo> Second question is regarding the process monitoring that occurs. I had no problem setting it up, but was curious as to amount of time it takes before repolling that info (ex. httpd process dies, how long does it take to report that info, and is this a tunable number?)
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[07-Jan-2007 11:38:10] <monrad> hi
[07-Jan-2007 11:38:16] <monrad> i get stuff like "ProgrammingError: (1064, 'You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near \'eth1" on em001a.cxnet.dk (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.2.3 is bad)"\' at line 1')"
[07-Jan-2007 11:38:21] <monrad> i my perfsnmp log
[07-Jan-2007 11:38:28] <monrad> anyone seen that?
[07-Jan-2007 11:41:30] <nassy> monrad: i have not seen that. i am new to zenoss so may not be of much help but does your mysql meet the minimum version requirements
[07-Jan-2007 11:41:46] <monrad> it worked before i upgradede it
[07-Jan-2007 11:41:59] <monrad> with subversion, so i guess its my own fault
[07-Jan-2007 11:42:47] <nassy> are you familar enough with zenoss to
[07-Jan-2007 11:43:04] <nassy> point me in the right direction to get my perf graphs working
[07-Jan-2007 11:43:37] <monrad> how does they not work?
[07-Jan-2007 11:44:19] <nassy> my problem is if i manually run zenperfsnmp from the command line it adds something to the rrd database. if
[07-Jan-2007 11:44:30] <nassy> i dont it remains empty
[07-Jan-2007 11:44:47] <nassy> ie, before i got help my perf directory was empty
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:19] <nassy> for some reason it is not automatically running. zenoss status shows it is though
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:21] <monrad> i never had problems with getting grafs working yet
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:30] <monrad> does to log file say anything?
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:50] <nassy> it says cant find the files in the perf directory
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:07] <nassy> thn when i run the zenperfsnmp command
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:15] <nassy> it adds something to the directory
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:26] <nassy> the graphs show up but with no data
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:31] <nassy> and are never updated
[07-Jan-2007 11:47:46] <monrad> does it have the right permissions?
[07-Jan-2007 11:48:46] <nassy> should be. everything is owned by zenoss. when i run the command manually it adds files to perf. the data is nan though
[07-Jan-2007 11:49:02] <nassy> and it has the right snmp password to the device
[07-Jan-2007 11:49:24] <monrad> hmm
[07-Jan-2007 11:50:38] <nassy> i just checked something based on what you said
[07-Jan-2007 11:50:56] <nassy> can you tell me when i add a device and in perfconf tab
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:00] <nassy> where it says
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:19] <nassy> datasources and then lists the source as
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:20] <nassy> 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:42] <nassy> that is the item i am getting data for, correct. and if i want to see if that works
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:48] <nassy> i use this command:
[07-Jan-2007 11:52:22] <nassy> zenoss$ snmpget -c public -v 1 router.intranet.com 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10
[07-Jan-2007 12:01:13] <nassy> if above syntax for snmp is correct i think i may have found my problem. i am new at this. i suspect the MIB it is using for the router is not correct. when i use: snmpget -c public -v 1 router.intranet.com RFC1213-MIB::ifOutOctets.2 i get a number back for the 2nd interface. now i just need to figure out how to update the template and convert RFC1213-MIB::ifOutOctets.2 into the right syntax fr zenoss
[07-Jan-2007 12:01:37] <nassy> but that does not explain why the graphs dont appear for other devices (windows)
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[07-Jan-2007 13:18:27] <xff_> hi, nice peice of software zenoss is!
[07-Jan-2007 13:20:13] <xff_> should i be worred about error messages during install from RPM? MySQL says it doesnt support 'multiple triggers with the same action time and event for one table'
[07-Jan-2007 13:20:20] <xff_> worried*
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[07-Jan-2007 19:23:52] <_ai> hi
[07-Jan-2007 19:24:38] <_ai> I need some quick help on zenoss, please help
[07-Jan-2007 19:28:49] <monrad> what?
[07-Jan-2007 19:29:21] <monrad> its easier if you state your problem then people know if its anything they know
[07-Jan-2007 19:36:51] <_ai> I ve install a VMware image of zenoss
[07-Jan-2007 19:37:02] <_ai> I can ping the virtual machine
[07-Jan-2007 19:37:31] <_ai> but i couldn't get in to Zenoss Web console via Firefox
[07-Jan-2007 19:42:57] <monrad> i dont use the vmware image but i dont have any problems with firefox
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[07-Jan-2007 19:51:20] <_ai> i guess it could be a firewall on the vmware image/ or webservice is not running
[07-Jan-2007 19:51:29] <_ai> is there any way to test it???
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[08-Jan-2007 08:04:07] <switchfox1977> .
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[08-Jan-2007 12:09:10] <monrad> evening
[08-Jan-2007 12:36:00] <monrad> are there any developers in here?
[08-Jan-2007 13:00:44] <monrad> not that i want to bug you
[08-Jan-2007 13:07:47] <monrad> Error: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id' <- anyone seen that
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[08-Jan-2007 14:40:55] <Trentster> hey all you zenossers, can someone help me get rid of this annoying problem, keep getting this logged as an error in the dashboard and in the event, seems like zenoss is confused with hostnames " 192.168.0.180 sendto error Host ubuntu and ubuntu.aural.co.za are both using ip 192.168.0.180 " wracking my brain to try and solve this one,
[08-Jan-2007 14:41:54] <Trentster> delted the device added it using the fqdn specified in /etc/hosts, still same problem BTW 192.168.0.180 is the zenoss server running the daemons...dont know if this is why we are getting this
[08-Jan-2007 14:42:24] <Trentster> any ideas?
[08-Jan-2007 15:02:00] <Trentster> any1?
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[09-Jan-2007 02:39:31] <sh4rk> greetings all
[09-Jan-2007 02:41:40] <sh4rk> i have a fresh zenoss install but i can only retrieve a limited amount of snmp information from remote hosts.
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:10] <sh4rk> i'm wanting to monitor disk space, network traffic, etc but all get is the hostname, kernel version and so on..
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:19] <sh4rk> nothing is reported under OS or hardware or Software
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:29] <sh4rk> server side is centos 4
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:46] <sh4rk> and server being monitored is also centos 4
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:50] <sh4rk> both full installs
[09-Jan-2007 02:43:34] <sh4rk> i've configured the snmpd.conf on the server to be monitored. I entered details of location and contact email address. should there be something else i should configure?
[09-Jan-2007 03:50:25] <sh4rk> ah, it seems i had a config file that was too restrictive
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[09-Jan-2007 18:34:24] <DaveToo> okay
[09-Jan-2007 18:36:01] <DaveToo> I'm having trouble finding documentation that tells me what the zenperfsnmp username/password is for, i.e. which authentication mechanism? Unix for sudo? Or mysql for the events table?
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[10-Jan-2007 04:26:25] <monrad> error: opening '/usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/192.168.2.9/sysUpTime.rrd': No such file or directory <- i get lost of these when adding a device
[10-Jan-2007 04:27:29] <monrad> the 192.168.2.9 dir is not created
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[10-Jan-2007 05:42:07] <monrad> anyone scripted up against the zenoss db?
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[10-Jan-2007 09:38:10] <VlaDar> heloo here
[10-Jan-2007 09:44:17] <VlaDar> I just installed zenoss ( on Debian) I exactely followed docs/INSTALL_UBUNTU When I try to add an individual device I got "no snmp found for ip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" error. The strange thing is that snmtp is correctly set on the device (snmpwalk -v1 -c public localhost system > is OK)
[10-Jan-2007 09:44:53] <VlaDar> Have I missed something in the config ?
[10-Jan-2007 09:48:19] <VlaDar> Oh !!! sorry I'ts OK I found !!! roblem in my snmpd congig
[10-Jan-2007 09:48:35] <VlaDar> err: config
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[10-Jan-2007 10:10:32] <doofoo-> Does anyone know if the tab under an event info "Log" is useable for putting in updates as to why an event alert was acked, or why it is occuring?
[10-Jan-2007 10:16:10] <doofoo-> I found in the archives of the mailing list that you should be able to add notes under the "Log" tab. But I see no button or space to type/submit any notes. Zenoss v. 1.0.2
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[10-Jan-2007 10:52:10] <doofoo-> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/139
[10-Jan-2007 10:52:16] <doofoo-> Looks like it's in the next release.
[10-Jan-2007 10:52:18] <adytum-bot> Title: #139 (Activeate log tab in event detail (implement Acknowledgement comments)) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
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[10-Jan-2007 14:27:09] <creiht> wonders if anyone is around
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:01] <creiht> I've added a performance template on a node in the device tree
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:18] <creiht> For example to /Devices/Server/Linux/Dell
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:30] <creiht> Hoping that all the devices would pick it up
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:56] <creiht> But when I look at the device perConf, it is still inheriting from /Devices/Server
[10-Jan-2007 14:29:14] <creiht> Is there any way to make it inherit instead from /Devices/Server/Linux/Dell?
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[11-Jan-2007 05:30:46] <hornos> hi there
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[11-Jan-2007 12:04:01] <VlaDar> hi
[11-Jan-2007 12:06:45] <monrad> hi
[11-Jan-2007 12:06:58] <VlaDar> I have two problems, the first one : my zenoss dont't hraph any more I only have graphs for this morning from 10:30 to 10:40, I changed something in my config but don't know what and I have no more data ploted in Perf graphs
[11-Jan-2007 12:07:56] <monrad> there is something with missing graphs on the mailinglsit
[11-Jan-2007 12:09:03] <VlaDar> graphs are not missing .... just empty
[11-Jan-2007 12:10:08] <monrad> i have not seen that
[11-Jan-2007 12:12:37] <VlaDar> the second one : I can't acces other machines by snmp, only localhost
[11-Jan-2007 12:13:50] <VlaDar> snmpwalk -v1 -c public somehost system
[11-Jan-2007 12:13:55] <VlaDar> imeout: No Response from somehost
[11-Jan-2007 12:15:08] <VlaDar> but when I snmpwalk -v1 -c public localhost system localy (on "somehost") it's OK
[11-Jan-2007 12:16:39] <creiht> VlaDar: For the second one check you snmpd.conf to make sure your polling machine's ip is listed as a valid ip to request snmp information
[11-Jan-2007 12:16:56] <creiht> Also check for things like firewalls or portsentry that might block the traffic
[11-Jan-2007 12:20:48] <VlaDar> creiht : no firewall, I've done a test with two machines connected directely and I've tested with "com2sec monitor 0.0.0.0/0 public" line in my /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf file
[11-Jan-2007 12:21:42] <VlaDar> maybe some iptables rules, but I think that no forrewal roule is enables in debian in the default install
[11-Jan-2007 12:23:48] <creiht> At that point you are beyond my expertise
[11-Jan-2007 12:24:07] <creiht> Any problems that I ever ran into were either firewall or portsentry related
[11-Jan-2007 12:24:37] <monrad> newer debian snmpds default only binds to localhost
[11-Jan-2007 12:24:41] <creiht> You can read the servers other services right? (ping, ssh, etc.)
[11-Jan-2007 12:25:46] <monrad> its in /etc/default/snmpd.conf or something like that
[11-Jan-2007 12:27:05] <VlaDar> yes of course i can ping & ssh & http to both hosts and bertween them
[11-Jan-2007 12:28:14] <VlaDar> I am not using default debian snmpd.conf but the one from zenoss < $ZENOSHOME/conf/
[11-Jan-2007 12:30:01] <monrad> ok
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:13] <VlaDar> I think I've found : from /usr/share/doc/snmpd/README.Debian
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> Please note the following customizations of the Net-SNMP packages for
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> Debian.
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> The default configuration disables SMUX support and binds the SNMP port
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> to 127.0.0.1. Please configure /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf, /etc/hosts.allow
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> and /etc/hosts.deny first to set up who can access the SNMP daemon, then
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:31] <VlaDar> edit /etc/default/snmpd and remove 127.0.0.1 from SNMPDOPTS.
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:34] <VlaDar> ....
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:59] <VlaDar> thanks creiht
[11-Jan-2007 12:58:46] <VlaDar> yeah !!!
[11-Jan-2007 12:59:33] <VlaDar> tip: edit /etc/default/snmpd & /etc/host.deny files
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[11-Jan-2007 14:13:33] <VlaDar> monrad : I saw this in log: [10-Dec-2006 05:20:27] <monrad> when i try to monitor the machine running zenoss i says "81.161.182.226 sendto error Host mon002a and mon002a.cxnet.dk are both using ip 81.161.182.226"
[11-Jan-2007 14:13:45] <monrad> yes
[11-Jan-2007 14:13:54] <VlaDar> I have the sams issue, did U found the solution ?
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:18] <monrad> it was moved to a new server and i have not seen it since
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:34] <VlaDar> argh
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:38] <VlaDar> thanks
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:55] <monrad> np
[11-Jan-2007 14:15:33] <VlaDar> it could be something in /etc/hosts
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[11-Jan-2007 15:32:13] <monrad> anyone knows a easy way to change all my devices to snmp version 2 instead of 1?
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[11-Jan-2007 19:07:50] <mike-ekim> anyone live here?
[11-Jan-2007 19:10:01] <monrad> sometimes
[11-Jan-2007 19:10:50] <mike-ekim> hehe
[11-Jan-2007 19:10:58] <mike-ekim> im new to zenoss, and i dont think the documentation was very well written
[11-Jan-2007 19:11:10] <mike-ekim> i couldnt really get a good grasp of it, can someone help me out here?
[11-Jan-2007 19:11:12] <monrad> nope your right there
[11-Jan-2007 19:11:15] <mike-ekim> monrad: or you
[11-Jan-2007 19:12:09] <monrad> well i am also just trying to learn zenoss
[11-Jan-2007 19:13:19] <monrad> but i am hitting an performance barrier right now
[11-Jan-2007 19:13:26] <monrad> i can only monitor about 150 devices
[11-Jan-2007 19:19:05] <mike-ekim> ooh
[11-Jan-2007 19:19:18] <mike-ekim> did you find the documentation usefuil
[11-Jan-2007 19:19:26] <mike-ekim> cause im getting here parse errros when i try to set schedules for hosts
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[11-Jan-2007 19:41:55] <monrad> i found the pdf somewhat helpfull
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[11-Jan-2007 21:20:06] <dubie> what is the defaul url to the admin page?
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[12-Jan-2007 09:28:12] <m1l3n> hei
[12-Jan-2007 09:28:32] <m1l3n> does anybody knows default password after installing from rpm
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[12-Jan-2007 10:38:56] <etcp> zenoss, iirc
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[12-Jan-2007 19:30:53] <dubie> I have zenoss installed via rpm with no trouble... what is the default url to get to admin page?
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[13-Jan-2007 11:18:32] <greenmast> morning guys =)
[13-Jan-2007 11:19:33] <nassy> morning
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[15-Jan-2007 07:31:02] <coudy> hi
[15-Jan-2007 07:31:42] <coudy> i have problem with zenoss, is there someone, who will help me ?
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[15-Jan-2007 16:41:07] <creiht> \msg NickServe HELP
[15-Jan-2007 16:41:14] <creiht> hehe whoops
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[16-Jan-2007 08:49:40] <ateoh211> hi, trying to test the vmware demo, is there a default password for zport?
[16-Jan-2007 08:49:47] <ateoh211> or for the zope instance?
[16-Jan-2007 08:50:07] <ateoh211> I see no mention in the quickstart guide what this might be.
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[17-Jan-2007 09:23:42] <rjt_> hello
[17-Jan-2007 09:24:33] <rjt_> a question on portscan plugin, I am only able to gather information for ssh, smtp although many other ports are open, have increased the max port in zproperties
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[17-Jan-2007 15:34:06] <giesen> is there any way to have unacknowledged alerts repeat themselves every hour or something
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[19-Jan-2007 06:47:03] <lucipher> hello
[19-Jan-2007 06:50:04] <lucipher> has any had this error I'm getting when we access 'Events' portion of zenoss ? http://pastebin.com/862785
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[19-Jan-2007 07:14:19] <amikhailov> hello. anybody alive?
[19-Jan-2007 07:16:21] <nassy> i am
[19-Jan-2007 07:16:49] <amikhailov> wow. i'm impressed
[19-Jan-2007 07:17:11] <nassy> usually quiet eh
[19-Jan-2007 07:17:15] <amikhailov> do you have any exp in installation of Zenoss?
[19-Jan-2007 07:17:31] <nassy> no, i am a newbie having a few problems with graphs
[19-Jan-2007 07:18:00] <nassy> but maybe i can help. cant hurt to describe your problem
[19-Jan-2007 07:19:32] <amikhailov> where is initialize URL for zenoss after installation. i'm just install it and haven't any ideas 'bout what next
[19-Jan-2007 07:19:42] <amikhailov> do you know it?
[19-Jan-2007 07:20:40] <nassy> what do you mean initialize?
[19-Jan-2007 07:20:55] <nassy> you want to know after installing how do you connect to it
[19-Jan-2007 07:22:04] <amikhailov> yes
[19-Jan-2007 07:22:52] <nassy> if you are using the same machine you installed it on. in your web browser type: http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd
[19-Jan-2007 07:22:53] <amikhailov> will i make soft link for folder zenoss in /opt or just put changes in httpd.conf
[19-Jan-2007 07:23:38] <nassy> i installed some in /opt and some in /usr and made symbolic links
[19-Jan-2007 07:25:51] <amikhailov> can you show me the path, prothet? where you take this wisdom about links?
[19-Jan-2007 07:27:08] <nassy> i just created the links based on the errors i got when i installed. ie, i would install and it would say error and i'd look at the error to see what it was looking for and make the link based on that until all my errors went away
[19-Jan-2007 07:27:17] <nassy> and it installed ok
[19-Jan-2007 07:28:14] <amikhailov> ok. i try again
[19-Jan-2007 07:28:27] <amikhailov> thank you
[19-Jan-2007 07:29:04] <nassy> ok, no problem. consider joing the email list. you may get more help as you try to fix the install errors
[19-Jan-2007 07:32:56] <amikhailov> good bye
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[19-Jan-2007 08:43:47] <lucipher> anyone having similar issues, log here: http://pastebin.com/862785 ?
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[21-Jan-2007 08:39:09] <monrad> hi everybody
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[21-Jan-2007 22:35:36] <_lunix_> hello all....
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[22-Jan-2007 16:55:07] <difeta> I cannot see any performance graphs. I've restarted all the zenoss services and let it sit for about an hour and nothing has appeared.
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[23-Jan-2007 08:25:39] <carl> anyone awake?
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[23-Jan-2007 11:58:11] <Tomi> Hello everyone
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[23-Jan-2007 12:23:57] <Tomi> hello
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[23-Jan-2007 13:01:29] <darkhelmet> howdy, got a question about a problem I'm having.
[23-Jan-2007 13:02:17] <darkhelmet> seems my server took a power hit yesterday and now the web interface doesn't work.
[23-Jan-2007 13:02:50] <darkhelmet> it's still monitoring devices since I still get alerts but I just can't get to the interface.
[23-Jan-2007 13:03:11] <darkhelmet> tried restarting services, rebooting...no dice.
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[23-Jan-2007 18:24:18] <difeta> where can I get information on how to get zentrap to work? Do I need to have snmptrapd running?
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[24-Jan-2007 12:22:42] <incorrect> hello
[24-Jan-2007 12:23:07] <incorrect> i've just compiled zenoss and am looking to add devices
[24-Jan-2007 12:23:08] <chet> incorrect: Hi.
[24-Jan-2007 12:23:32] <incorrect> is the snmpd.conf left in etc an 'ideal' example to use with zenoss?
[24-Jan-2007 12:24:44] <chet> I think that was the intention, but it seems overly complex for that it does
[24-Jan-2007 12:24:51] <chet> I'd stick to "rocommunity whatever"
[24-Jan-2007 12:25:46] <chet> Most of my devices have only three lines in them.
[24-Jan-2007 12:25:53] <chet> rocommunity whatever
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:01] <incorrect> ok
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:02] <chet> sysLocation location
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:07] <chet> sysContact contact@place.com
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:26] <incorrect> oh i have no cmd plugins, is that bad?
[24-Jan-2007 12:27:05] <chet> Probably not. They can be useful for monitoring specific things, but I wouldn't worry about them at first.
[24-Jan-2007 12:27:24] <incorrect> ok i don't seem to be able to collect info
[24-Jan-2007 12:27:40] <incorrect> i've added one device set my community
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:06] <incorrect> but it just hangs
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:18] <chet> Does it eventually come back with an error message?
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:28] <chet> Something like "no snmp found .."
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:33] <incorrect> pj wpw
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:35] <incorrect> client timed out
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:36] <incorrect> ah
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:57] <incorrect> zen.ZenModeler: client shadow timeout]
[24-Jan-2007 12:29:13] <incorrect> zen.Device: collected snmp information for device shadow
[24-Jan-2007 12:29:17] <incorrect> ok that sounds promising
[24-Jan-2007 12:29:36] <incorrect> its very slow!
[24-Jan-2007 12:30:11] <chet> Modeling can be slow under some circumstances. Is shadow a Linux box?
[24-Jan-2007 12:30:14] <incorrect> yes
[24-Jan-2007 12:30:27] <incorrect> ubuntu dapper
[24-Jan-2007 12:31:37] <incorrect> oh it just stopped with no more messages
[24-Jan-2007 12:32:10] <chet> Sometimes the installed software map can cause problems under Linux because the list of packages is so long.
[24-Jan-2007 12:32:25] <incorrect> oh right
[24-Jan-2007 12:33:10] <chet> If you don't care to record the packages that are installed you can add "hrSwInstalled" to the zCollectorIgnorePlugins under the /Devices/Server/Linux branch.
[24-Jan-2007 12:33:19] <chet> That'll speed up Linux collection significantly.
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:09] <incorrect> actually i like that feature, but can it really get that info from snmp?
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:18] <chet> Yeah, that is part of the MIB.
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:21] <incorrect> cool
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:24] <incorrect> didn't know that
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:40] <incorrect> ok how do i set it up to scan the network for snmp devices?
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:42] <chet> I agree that it's handy.
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:59] <incorrect> i can track changes
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:18] <chet> Zenoss actually makes a pretty good software/hardware inventory system when setup properly.
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:30] <incorrect> sounds like it
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:36] <incorrect> i am very impressed so far
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:52] <incorrect> its taken me less time to setup than nagios
[24-Jan-2007 12:36:04] <chet> As far as auto-discovering your network goes, become the zenoss user and run "zenmodeler run"
[24-Jan-2007 12:36:36] <incorrect> i could create a cronjob for that maybe
[24-Jan-2007 12:36:39] <chet> No kidding. I've developed so many custom extensions to Nagios over the years. Now Zenoss comes along and does them all and more out of the box. =}
[24-Jan-2007 12:37:10] <chet> zenmodeler can be very CPU intensive.
[24-Jan-2007 12:37:33] <incorrect> its ok this is a quad cpu box with 8gb and 2TB of storage
[24-Jan-2007 12:38:17] <incorrect> its my bacula, (NAS), and when its idle it can help with the compile cluster using icecc
[24-Jan-2007 12:38:20] <incorrect> yes i am mad
[24-Jan-2007 12:39:27] <chet> Mad and well funded.
[24-Jan-2007 12:39:56] <chet> fyi, Zenoss 1.1 will probably be officially released later today.
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:04] <incorrect> lol
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:18] <incorrect> i only stumbled onto it a few days ago
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:26] <incorrect> i don't mind starting again
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:43] <chet> They've gotten pretty good about the upgrade process lately though.
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:55] <incorrect> i don't care i have no data
[24-Jan-2007 12:42:28] <incorrect> that didn't work
[24-Jan-2007 12:42:31] <incorrect> oh well
[24-Jan-2007 12:44:13] <incorrect> i feel like i missed something when i compiled
[24-Jan-2007 12:44:22] <chet> For zenmodeler to work it's important to make sure it has access to SNMP on your default router.
[24-Jan-2007 12:44:51] <chet> It uses the routing tables on it and downstream routers to discover the network.
[24-Jan-2007 12:45:41] <chet> Also you can stick "-v 10" on the end of any command lines to get more verbose logging.
[24-Jan-2007 12:46:06] <incorrect> thanks
[24-Jan-2007 13:07:33] <incorrect> ah i should get omsa working
[24-Jan-2007 13:07:52] <incorrect> finally dell realise its a good thing to OS their drivers
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[24-Jan-2007 15:30:01] <hazmat> ian around?
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[24-Jan-2007 15:34:17] <hazmat> was willing to help out on the manageable index issue.. but if no one from the dev team is here....
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[24-Jan-2007 16:45:30] <jspirko> 12I have a quick question. Does anybody know how to increase the range in which zenperfsnmp runs? The quickest refresh is hourly. Is there anyway to increase to maybe 30mins?
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[24-Jan-2007 20:14:23] <brandon> hey
[24-Jan-2007 20:14:31] <brandon> Is it possible to have an event command run on the local Zenoss box rather than on the device which generated the event?
[24-Jan-2007 20:29:30] <brandon> Are all the event commands sent over ssh>
[24-Jan-2007 20:29:31] <brandon> ?
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[24-Jan-2007 23:15:32] <brandon> anyone around?
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[25-Jan-2007 04:27:22] <dna_pt> Hi.
[25-Jan-2007 04:29:21] <dna_pt> Is anyone awake ?
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[26-Jan-2007 02:02:05] <incorrect> hello
[26-Jan-2007 03:27:16] <incorrect> i can't seem to get lists of software from linux
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[26-Jan-2007 04:24:49] <incorrect> strange, cacti can get info from my snmpd.conf but zenoss can't
[26-Jan-2007 04:42:00] <incorrect> how can i force a commit on an unchanged file?
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[26-Jan-2007 05:44:36] <incorrect> i keep getting timeouts when trying to get another from than system info from snmpd
[26-Jan-2007 09:29:29] <incorrect> zenoss seems to get my ram wrong
[26-Jan-2007 09:29:29] <incorrect> sigh
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[26-Jan-2007 13:18:12] <jspirko> 12I have a quick question. I am trying to setup Zenoss for the first time and I am having difficulty generating the usage graphs. I am able to monitor devices with Getif and produce graphs via SNMP. But for some reason Zenoss will not create them. Any ideas? Thanks.
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[26-Jan-2007 14:57:13] <danr> hey
[26-Jan-2007 14:57:36] <danr> I have a quick question and I can't find an answer anywhere
[26-Jan-2007 14:58:14] <danr> is there a way to change the alert url from hostname to ip?
[26-Jan-2007 15:07:34] <danr> anyone
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[28-Jan-2007 11:24:35] <Eposhark> Hi, I installed zenoss on a test server, but I want to "uninstall" it now
[28-Jan-2007 11:24:38] <Eposhark> How do I do that?
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[28-Jan-2007 12:07:30] <Eposhark> Hi, I'd like to uninstall Zenoss
[28-Jan-2007 12:07:33] <Eposhark> What's the best way?
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[28-Jan-2007 22:58:53] <_lunix_> Eposhark : you still want to know how to uninstall zenoss ?
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[29-Jan-2007 03:26:46] <incorrect> is this place still dead
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[29-Jan-2007 04:59:35] <incorrect> strange graphs don't seem to get generated
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[30-Jan-2007 13:55:16] <monrad> evening
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[31-Jan-2007 05:07:34] <VlaDar> hello there
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:11] <VlaDar> I'am traying to configure zenoss to monitor a linux workstation via ssh and whan I run "zenmodeler run -d linuxstatin" command I get this kind of error :
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:28] <VlaDar> ERROR:zen.ApplyDataMap:plugin zenoss.cmd.linux.ifconfig device linuxstation
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> raceback (most recent call last):
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 74, in processClient
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> datamaps = plugin.process(device, results, log)
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/cmd/linux/ifconfig.py", line 62, in process
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> if "UP" in flags: iface.operStatus = 1
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:40] <VlaDar> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'iface' referenced before assignment
[31-Jan-2007 05:10:03] <VlaDar> I googled for it but found nothing ?
[31-Jan-2007 05:11:01] <VlaDar> any idea ?
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[31-Jan-2007 09:22:01] <Tomi> Hello everyone, I am Tomi and I work with Zenoss Inc.
[31-Jan-2007 09:22:26] <Tomi> If anyone has any questions, please feel free to throw them my way
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[31-Jan-2007 09:33:26] <chet> Tomi: What Linux distribution do you develop on? I'm running CentOS 4.4 on my monitors, but can't run trunk because it only has python-2.3.4
[31-Jan-2007 09:51:13] <Tomi> we run on most of the distros Suse, RHEL 4.3, Centos 4.3, Fedora Core 6 and Ubuntu
[31-Jan-2007 09:53:47] <Tomi> We currently have not tested on Centos 4.4 however, Zenoss can run with python 2.3.5 and 2.4.x
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[31-Jan-2007 10:01:06] <chet> I read on the mailing list that trunk has now moved to Zope 2.10 which requires 2.4.3 at minimum. How accurate is that?
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[31-Jan-2007 12:03:15] <incorrect> this version 1.1 seems very buggy
[31-Jan-2007 12:04:34] <chet> It's working well for me after a bit of work to make zenmigrate work properly.
[31-Jan-2007 12:04:53] <incorrect> its got all my graphs wrong
[31-Jan-2007 12:05:02] <incorrect> it services keep crashing
[31-Jan-2007 12:05:16] <incorrect> atleast its generating graphs this time
[31-Jan-2007 12:05:48] <incorrect> but strangely enough not for all hosts
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:22] <incorrect> im not overly convinced by zenoss at the moment, they don't seem to have basics right
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:23] <chet> The best general advice I can give would be to stop zenoss completely, make sure all of the processes are actually stopped, then delete everything in the log directory.
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:40] <chet> Start it up again, and look at each log file to make sure they aren't throwing exceptions.
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:52] <incorrect> they are all throwing errors
[31-Jan-2007 12:07:01] <incorrect> i wiped it and started again
[31-Jan-2007 12:07:20] <incorrect> oh yes and it totally dies when i try and put an event into history
[31-Jan-2007 12:09:30] <chet> Could you elaborate on "totally dies" ?
[31-Jan-2007 12:09:44] <incorrect> well it goes to the 'submit a bug'
[31-Jan-2007 12:09:59] <chet> So there's a stack trace?
[31-Jan-2007 12:10:30] <incorrect> i submitted it so whoever reads those things should be happy
[31-Jan-2007 12:11:19] <chet> I'd be scared if a stack trace made anyone happy. =}
[31-Jan-2007 12:11:55] <incorrect> im not sure what the best thing to do is,
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:10] <incorrect> either go back to using a combination of cacti and nagios
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:11] <chet> Just FYI, I'm not a Zenoss employee or developer.. just a user like you. So I don't have access to wherever those reports go.
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:31] <incorrect> or try another project
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:48] <incorrect> which ones have you used before?
[31-Jan-2007 12:13:14] <chet> I'm currently using Nagios with a bunch of custom extensions to monitor my company's IT network.
[31-Jan-2007 12:13:30] <Aziraphale> there isn't anything free that comes even close to what Zenoss does
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:08] <Aziraphale> I oughta know, I used to do NMS for a living
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:08] <chet> Zenoss is without question the most ambitious of the free NMS projects. Even more so than OpenNMS.
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:39] <chet> Unfortunately with great power usually comes great complexity.
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:56] <chet> Nagios is rock-solid, but very basic.
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:08] <Aziraphale> OpenNMS is the point-in-case of thast
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:14] <chet> OpenNMS is a run away train.
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:15] <Aziraphale> that*
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:55] <chet> Maybe if you're a Java guru OpenNMS would be nice..
[31-Jan-2007 12:16:23] <chet> You could say the same thing about being a Python/Zope guru and Zenoss.
[31-Jan-2007 12:16:51] <chet> However, in my opinion, becoming a Python/Zope guru takes a lot less time.
[31-Jan-2007 12:17:00] <chet> I had never touched them before starting to use Zenoss about a month ago.
[31-Jan-2007 12:18:46] <chet> As far as NMS goes, you should ask yourself this. Do I have time, patience and desire, or do I have money?
[31-Jan-2007 12:18:57] <chet> If you have neither, you should quit your job and apply at McDonalds.
[31-Jan-2007 12:19:41] <Aziraphale> how is that exclusive? you need at least time, patience and money for most commercial NMS
[31-Jan-2007 12:19:58] <chet> heh.. I was thinking about including time after I typed it.
[31-Jan-2007 12:20:49] <chet> You could use What's up Pro.. that looks straight-forward. But none of the big 4.
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[31-Jan-2007 12:31:35] <chet> I can't wait for the ZenPacks infrastructure.
[31-Jan-2007 12:32:19] <chet> There's so much stuff I'd like to model, but I don't want to have to stick it into the core.
[31-Jan-2007 12:43:22] <Tomi> I'm sorry was away for a bit I will try and answer as many questions as possible
[31-Jan-2007 13:16:43] <Aziraphale> what is the story with zenpacks? is thast some sort of extension pack for a certain class of device?
[31-Jan-2007 13:20:46] <chet> That's what it looks like to me. Maybe a better modularized replacement for some of the DataCollector/plugins stuff.
[31-Jan-2007 13:26:37] <Aziraphale> nice one
[31-Jan-2007 13:29:23] <Aziraphale> was wondering what was happening to that
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[31-Jan-2007 15:41:29] <suprsonic> hi!
[31-Jan-2007 15:41:50] <suprsonic> zenoss feature snmp thresholding?
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[31-Jan-2007 21:00:39] <mike-ekim> hello
[31-Jan-2007 21:00:41] <mike-ekim> anyone live here?
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[03-Jan-2007 11:46:16] <Hafid> Does zenoss autodiscovery over CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) ???
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[03-Jan-2007 13:53:25] <EZ> i'm new to zenoss and need some help setting it up
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[03-Jan-2007 13:59:19] <EZ> is anybody online?
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[03-Jan-2007 19:34:04] <mike-ekim> hrello
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[04-Jan-2007 01:47:00] <nassy> hi, i am trying to install zenoss on mac os x. mysql5 is installed using a system called macports (darwinports). mysql can be found in /opt/local/bin ... etc.. i got zenoss to build but am having problem when it tries to login to the database.
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:07] <nassy> the error i get is
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:15] <nassy> build.sh: line 69: mysql: command not found mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:31] <nassy> i used mysql root user
[04-Jan-2007 01:47:56] <nassy> MySQL username for Zenoss events database [zenoss]: root
[04-Jan-2007 01:48:47] <nassy> and mysql5 -u root -p works with the same password
[04-Jan-2007 01:48:58] <nassy> any ideas what i can do?
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[04-Jan-2007 03:38:55] <DeuX-Office> does kudos support AIX and HP-UX ?
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[04-Jan-2007 13:35:06] <mike-ekim> to have more than one device, do I need a individual user account for each to each have their own notification settings or alters?
[04-Jan-2007 13:35:10] <mike-ekim> alerts*
[04-Jan-2007 13:35:16] <mike-ekim> IM kind of new to this application
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[04-Jan-2007 15:15:31] <lawndog23> anybody here?
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[04-Jan-2007 16:55:31] <lawndog23> does zenoss have a package for suse 10.2
[04-Jan-2007 16:55:33] <lawndog23> ???
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[05-Jan-2007 12:37:06] <NotMarkFoley> anyone alive?
[05-Jan-2007 12:51:20] <NotMarkFoley> well at least you make up for a lack of extensive documentation with an active irc channel.
[05-Jan-2007 13:34:17] <monrad>
[05-Jan-2007 13:34:32] <monrad> well i guess some of us have to get some work done also
[05-Jan-2007 13:39:58] <NotMarkFoley> heh
[05-Jan-2007 13:42:49] <NotMarkFoley> I actually got the answer to my question from the mailing list.
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[06-Jan-2007 06:08:59] <nassy> i (finally) got zenoss to install on mac os x (with mysql installed via macports in /opt). i manually added a few devices that are monitored with the default (settings). i have a history of a few events (device turned off) for one of he devices and zenoss shows it in its history. however, i have two problems: 1, i don't see anything in the events tab. it says 1 of 0 being displayed (thats what it said before i set up an
[06-Jan-2007 06:09:16] <nassy> any idea how to troubleshoot and fix thi one
[06-Jan-2007 06:09:20] <nassy> ideas
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[06-Jan-2007 09:01:00] <nassy> i think i narrowed down what may be the source of my problem with the perf graphs on mac os x. it look like RRD is not saving any data to the perf folder. anyone know how i can roubleshoot. is there a way to manually run the RRD graphing procedure and then check some kind of log
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[06-Jan-2007 14:54:31] <stfn> hi, there's no topic set but I presume this channel is related to http://zenoss.com/ ...can anyone direct me to the licensing terms for this "open source" software? I've been unable to find any mention of a license on the website
[06-Jan-2007 14:54:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Zenoss Home : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2007 14:57:20] <stfn> never mind, I found it: http://zenoss.com/docs/eula
[06-Jan-2007 14:57:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : End User License Agreement : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at zenoss.com)
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[06-Jan-2007 15:01:36] <stfn> I am not a lawyer but clauses 2 and 3 seem to contradict clause 1
[06-Jan-2007 15:01:53] <stfn> clause 1 says "nothing in this Agreement will be construed to limit any rights granted under the GPL"
[06-Jan-2007 15:02:26] <stfn> yet clause 2 says "You may not remove or alter any copyright or other proprietary notice in or on the Product."
[06-Jan-2007 15:03:20] <stfn> so can I fork and release under the GPL while renaming to software to not include any zenoss trademarks or not?
[06-Jan-2007 15:05:57] <stfn> if I did release a fork under the GPL that contains no zenoss trademarks that would seem to violate clause 2 of the EULA which triggers clause 3
[06-Jan-2007 15:06:14] <stfn> clause 3 says "Upon termination, you must destroy all copies of the Product."
[06-Jan-2007 15:07:01] <nassy> stfn: i asked a few questions on the channel but have not yet received any response. you may have better luck posting your question to the mailing list
[06-Jan-2007 15:07:10] <stfn> but don't I still have a right to use and distribute the software under the terms of the GPL?
[06-Jan-2007 15:07:25] <stfn> nassy: ok, thanks
[06-Jan-2007 15:08:12] <nassy> by any chance do you know how the RRD integrates with zenoss
[06-Jan-2007 15:08:26] <nassy> i have a problem where the data is not being saved in perf
[06-Jan-2007 15:08:55] <nassy> and i would like to run the script manually to see if i can figure out why
[06-Jan-2007 15:09:12] <nassy> my perf folder is completely empty
[06-Jan-2007 15:09:42] <stfn> no idea, I'd only first heard of zenoss a few minutes ago (there'll be a talk about it at PyCon this year)
[06-Jan-2007 15:10:18] <nassy> ok
[06-Jan-2007 15:11:50] <nassy> thanks anyway
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[07-Jan-2007 01:52:06] <doofoo> I had a few questions regarding zenoss, been fiddling around with it personally getting ready for a rollout in a smaller size enviornment (few hundred devices). First question: - When acking alerts that are coming through, I noticed that there is a + to view details of the alert, and a field "LOG" under which it appears that you would be able to put comments as to why you ack'd the alert. Is this possible? I can not find it anywhere
[07-Jan-2007 01:53:58] <doofoo> Second question is regarding the process monitoring that occurs. I had no problem setting it up, but was curious as to amount of time it takes before repolling that info (ex. httpd process dies, how long does it take to report that info, and is this a tunable number?)
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[07-Jan-2007 11:38:10] <monrad> hi
[07-Jan-2007 11:38:16] <monrad> i get stuff like "ProgrammingError: (1064, 'You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near \'eth1" on em001a.cxnet.dk (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.2.3 is bad)"\' at line 1')"
[07-Jan-2007 11:38:21] <monrad> i my perfsnmp log
[07-Jan-2007 11:38:28] <monrad> anyone seen that?
[07-Jan-2007 11:41:30] <nassy> monrad: i have not seen that. i am new to zenoss so may not be of much help but does your mysql meet the minimum version requirements
[07-Jan-2007 11:41:46] <monrad> it worked before i upgradede it
[07-Jan-2007 11:41:59] <monrad> with subversion, so i guess its my own fault
[07-Jan-2007 11:42:47] <nassy> are you familar enough with zenoss to
[07-Jan-2007 11:43:04] <nassy> point me in the right direction to get my perf graphs working
[07-Jan-2007 11:43:37] <monrad> how does they not work?
[07-Jan-2007 11:44:19] <nassy> my problem is if i manually run zenperfsnmp from the command line it adds something to the rrd database. if
[07-Jan-2007 11:44:30] <nassy> i dont it remains empty
[07-Jan-2007 11:44:47] <nassy> ie, before i got help my perf directory was empty
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:19] <nassy> for some reason it is not automatically running. zenoss status shows it is though
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:21] <monrad> i never had problems with getting grafs working yet
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:30] <monrad> does to log file say anything?
[07-Jan-2007 11:45:50] <nassy> it says cant find the files in the perf directory
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:07] <nassy> thn when i run the zenperfsnmp command
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:15] <nassy> it adds something to the directory
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:26] <nassy> the graphs show up but with no data
[07-Jan-2007 11:46:31] <nassy> and are never updated
[07-Jan-2007 11:47:46] <monrad> does it have the right permissions?
[07-Jan-2007 11:48:46] <nassy> should be. everything is owned by zenoss. when i run the command manually it adds files to perf. the data is nan though
[07-Jan-2007 11:49:02] <nassy> and it has the right snmp password to the device
[07-Jan-2007 11:49:24] <monrad> hmm
[07-Jan-2007 11:50:38] <nassy> i just checked something based on what you said
[07-Jan-2007 11:50:56] <nassy> can you tell me when i add a device and in perfconf tab
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:00] <nassy> where it says
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:19] <nassy> datasources and then lists the source as
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:20] <nassy> 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:42] <nassy> that is the item i am getting data for, correct. and if i want to see if that works
[07-Jan-2007 11:51:48] <nassy> i use this command:
[07-Jan-2007 11:52:22] <nassy> zenoss$ snmpget -c public -v 1 router.intranet.com 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10
[07-Jan-2007 12:01:13] <nassy> if above syntax for snmp is correct i think i may have found my problem. i am new at this. i suspect the MIB it is using for the router is not correct. when i use: snmpget -c public -v 1 router.intranet.com RFC1213-MIB::ifOutOctets.2 i get a number back for the 2nd interface. now i just need to figure out how to update the template and convert RFC1213-MIB::ifOutOctets.2 into the right syntax fr zenoss
[07-Jan-2007 12:01:37] <nassy> but that does not explain why the graphs dont appear for other devices (windows)
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[07-Jan-2007 13:18:27] <xff_> hi, nice peice of software zenoss is!
[07-Jan-2007 13:20:13] <xff_> should i be worred about error messages during install from RPM? MySQL says it doesnt support 'multiple triggers with the same action time and event for one table'
[07-Jan-2007 13:20:20] <xff_> worried*
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[07-Jan-2007 19:23:52] <_ai> hi
[07-Jan-2007 19:24:38] <_ai> I need some quick help on zenoss, please help
[07-Jan-2007 19:28:49] <monrad> what?
[07-Jan-2007 19:29:21] <monrad> its easier if you state your problem then people know if its anything they know
[07-Jan-2007 19:36:51] <_ai> I ve install a VMware image of zenoss
[07-Jan-2007 19:37:02] <_ai> I can ping the virtual machine
[07-Jan-2007 19:37:31] <_ai> but i couldn't get in to Zenoss Web console via Firefox
[07-Jan-2007 19:42:57] <monrad> i dont use the vmware image but i dont have any problems with firefox
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[07-Jan-2007 19:51:20] <_ai> i guess it could be a firewall on the vmware image/ or webservice is not running
[07-Jan-2007 19:51:29] <_ai> is there any way to test it???
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[08-Jan-2007 08:04:07] <switchfox1977> .
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[08-Jan-2007 12:09:10] <monrad> evening
[08-Jan-2007 12:36:00] <monrad> are there any developers in here?
[08-Jan-2007 13:00:44] <monrad> not that i want to bug you
[08-Jan-2007 13:07:47] <monrad> Error: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id' <- anyone seen that
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[08-Jan-2007 14:40:55] <Trentster> hey all you zenossers, can someone help me get rid of this annoying problem, keep getting this logged as an error in the dashboard and in the event, seems like zenoss is confused with hostnames " 192.168.0.180 sendto error Host ubuntu and ubuntu.aural.co.za are both using ip 192.168.0.180 " wracking my brain to try and solve this one,
[08-Jan-2007 14:41:54] <Trentster> delted the device added it using the fqdn specified in /etc/hosts, still same problem BTW 192.168.0.180 is the zenoss server running the daemons...dont know if this is why we are getting this
[08-Jan-2007 14:42:24] <Trentster> any ideas?
[08-Jan-2007 15:02:00] <Trentster> any1?
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[09-Jan-2007 02:39:31] <sh4rk> greetings all
[09-Jan-2007 02:41:40] <sh4rk> i have a fresh zenoss install but i can only retrieve a limited amount of snmp information from remote hosts.
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:10] <sh4rk> i'm wanting to monitor disk space, network traffic, etc but all get is the hostname, kernel version and so on..
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:19] <sh4rk> nothing is reported under OS or hardware or Software
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:29] <sh4rk> server side is centos 4
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:46] <sh4rk> and server being monitored is also centos 4
[09-Jan-2007 02:42:50] <sh4rk> both full installs
[09-Jan-2007 02:43:34] <sh4rk> i've configured the snmpd.conf on the server to be monitored. I entered details of location and contact email address. should there be something else i should configure?
[09-Jan-2007 03:50:25] <sh4rk> ah, it seems i had a config file that was too restrictive
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[09-Jan-2007 18:34:24] <DaveToo> okay
[09-Jan-2007 18:36:01] <DaveToo> I'm having trouble finding documentation that tells me what the zenperfsnmp username/password is for, i.e. which authentication mechanism? Unix for sudo? Or mysql for the events table?
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[10-Jan-2007 04:26:25] <monrad> error: opening '/usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/192.168.2.9/sysUpTime.rrd': No such file or directory <- i get lost of these when adding a device
[10-Jan-2007 04:27:29] <monrad> the 192.168.2.9 dir is not created
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[10-Jan-2007 05:42:07] <monrad> anyone scripted up against the zenoss db?
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[10-Jan-2007 09:38:10] <VlaDar> heloo here
[10-Jan-2007 09:44:17] <VlaDar> I just installed zenoss ( on Debian) I exactely followed docs/INSTALL_UBUNTU When I try to add an individual device I got "no snmp found for ip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" error. The strange thing is that snmtp is correctly set on the device (snmpwalk -v1 -c public localhost system > is OK)
[10-Jan-2007 09:44:53] <VlaDar> Have I missed something in the config ?
[10-Jan-2007 09:48:19] <VlaDar> Oh !!! sorry I'ts OK I found !!! roblem in my snmpd congig
[10-Jan-2007 09:48:35] <VlaDar> err: config
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[10-Jan-2007 10:10:32] <doofoo-> Does anyone know if the tab under an event info "Log" is useable for putting in updates as to why an event alert was acked, or why it is occuring?
[10-Jan-2007 10:16:10] <doofoo-> I found in the archives of the mailing list that you should be able to add notes under the "Log" tab. But I see no button or space to type/submit any notes. Zenoss v. 1.0.2
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[10-Jan-2007 10:52:10] <doofoo-> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/139
[10-Jan-2007 10:52:16] <doofoo-> Looks like it's in the next release.
[10-Jan-2007 10:52:18] <adytum-bot> Title: #139 (Activeate log tab in event detail (implement Acknowledgement comments)) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
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[10-Jan-2007 14:27:09] <creiht> wonders if anyone is around
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:01] <creiht> I've added a performance template on a node in the device tree
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:18] <creiht> For example to /Devices/Server/Linux/Dell
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:30] <creiht> Hoping that all the devices would pick it up
[10-Jan-2007 14:28:56] <creiht> But when I look at the device perConf, it is still inheriting from /Devices/Server
[10-Jan-2007 14:29:14] <creiht> Is there any way to make it inherit instead from /Devices/Server/Linux/Dell?
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[11-Jan-2007 12:04:01] <VlaDar> hi
[11-Jan-2007 12:06:45] <monrad> hi
[11-Jan-2007 12:06:58] <VlaDar> I have two problems, the first one : my zenoss dont't hraph any more I only have graphs for this morning from 10:30 to 10:40, I changed something in my config but don't know what and I have no more data ploted in Perf graphs
[11-Jan-2007 12:07:56] <monrad> there is something with missing graphs on the mailinglsit
[11-Jan-2007 12:09:03] <VlaDar> graphs are not missing .... just empty
[11-Jan-2007 12:10:08] <monrad> i have not seen that
[11-Jan-2007 12:12:37] <VlaDar> the second one : I can't acces other machines by snmp, only localhost
[11-Jan-2007 12:13:50] <VlaDar> snmpwalk -v1 -c public somehost system
[11-Jan-2007 12:13:55] <VlaDar> imeout: No Response from somehost
[11-Jan-2007 12:15:08] <VlaDar> but when I snmpwalk -v1 -c public localhost system localy (on "somehost") it's OK
[11-Jan-2007 12:16:39] <creiht> VlaDar: For the second one check you snmpd.conf to make sure your polling machine's ip is listed as a valid ip to request snmp information
[11-Jan-2007 12:16:56] <creiht> Also check for things like firewalls or portsentry that might block the traffic
[11-Jan-2007 12:20:48] <VlaDar> creiht : no firewall, I've done a test with two machines connected directely and I've tested with "com2sec monitor 0.0.0.0/0 public" line in my /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf file
[11-Jan-2007 12:21:42] <VlaDar> maybe some iptables rules, but I think that no forrewal roule is enables in debian in the default install
[11-Jan-2007 12:23:48] <creiht> At that point you are beyond my expertise
[11-Jan-2007 12:24:07] <creiht> Any problems that I ever ran into were either firewall or portsentry related
[11-Jan-2007 12:24:37] <monrad> newer debian snmpds default only binds to localhost
[11-Jan-2007 12:24:41] <creiht> You can read the servers other services right? (ping, ssh, etc.)
[11-Jan-2007 12:25:46] <monrad> its in /etc/default/snmpd.conf or something like that
[11-Jan-2007 12:27:05] <VlaDar> yes of course
i can ping & ssh & http to both hosts and bertween them[11-Jan-2007 12:28:14] <VlaDar> I am not using default debian snmpd.conf but the one from zenoss < $ZENOSHOME/conf/
[11-Jan-2007 12:30:01] <monrad> ok
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:13] <VlaDar> I think I've found : from /usr/share/doc/snmpd/README.Debian
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> Please note the following customizations of the Net-SNMP packages for
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> Debian.
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> The default configuration disables SMUX support and binds the SNMP port
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> to 127.0.0.1. Please configure /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf, /etc/hosts.allow
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:30] <VlaDar> and /etc/hosts.deny first to set up who can access the SNMP daemon, then
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:31] <VlaDar> edit /etc/default/snmpd and remove 127.0.0.1 from SNMPDOPTS.
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:34] <VlaDar> ....
[11-Jan-2007 12:38:59] <VlaDar> thanks creiht
[11-Jan-2007 12:58:46] <VlaDar> yeah !!!
[11-Jan-2007 12:59:33] <VlaDar> tip: edit /etc/default/snmpd & /etc/host.deny files
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[11-Jan-2007 14:13:33] <VlaDar> monrad : I saw this in log: [10-Dec-2006 05:20:27] <monrad> when i try to monitor the machine running zenoss i says "81.161.182.226 sendto error Host mon002a and mon002a.cxnet.dk are both using ip 81.161.182.226"
[11-Jan-2007 14:13:45] <monrad> yes
[11-Jan-2007 14:13:54] <VlaDar> I have the sams issue, did U found the solution ?
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:18] <monrad> it was moved to a new server and i have not seen it since
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:34] <VlaDar> argh
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:38] <VlaDar> thanks
[11-Jan-2007 14:14:55] <monrad> np
[11-Jan-2007 14:15:33] <VlaDar> it could be something in /etc/hosts
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[11-Jan-2007 15:32:13] <monrad> anyone knows a easy way to change all my devices to snmp version 2 instead of 1?
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[11-Jan-2007 19:07:50] <mike-ekim> anyone live here?
[11-Jan-2007 19:10:01] <monrad> sometimes
[11-Jan-2007 19:10:50] <mike-ekim> hehe
[11-Jan-2007 19:10:58] <mike-ekim> im new to zenoss, and i dont think the documentation was very well written
[11-Jan-2007 19:11:10] <mike-ekim> i couldnt really get a good grasp of it, can someone help me out here?
[11-Jan-2007 19:11:12] <monrad> nope your right there
[11-Jan-2007 19:11:15] <mike-ekim> monrad: or you
[11-Jan-2007 19:12:09] <monrad> well i am also just trying to learn zenoss
[11-Jan-2007 19:13:19] <monrad> but i am hitting an performance barrier right now
[11-Jan-2007 19:13:26] <monrad> i can only monitor about 150 devices
[11-Jan-2007 19:19:05] <mike-ekim> ooh
[11-Jan-2007 19:19:18] <mike-ekim> did you find the documentation usefuil
[11-Jan-2007 19:19:26] <mike-ekim> cause im getting here parse errros when i try to set schedules for hosts
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[11-Jan-2007 19:41:55] <monrad> i found the pdf somewhat helpfull
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[11-Jan-2007 21:20:06] <dubie> what is the defaul url to the admin page?
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[12-Jan-2007 09:28:12] <m1l3n> hei
[12-Jan-2007 09:28:32] <m1l3n> does anybody knows default password after installing from rpm
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[12-Jan-2007 10:38:56] <etcp> zenoss, iirc
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[12-Jan-2007 19:30:53] <dubie> I have zenoss installed via rpm with no trouble... what is the default url to get to admin page?
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[13-Jan-2007 11:18:32] <greenmast> morning guys =)
[13-Jan-2007 11:19:33] <nassy> morning
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[15-Jan-2007 07:31:02] <coudy> hi
[15-Jan-2007 07:31:42] <coudy> i have problem with zenoss, is there someone, who will help me ?
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[15-Jan-2007 16:41:07] <creiht> \msg NickServe HELP
[15-Jan-2007 16:41:14] <creiht> hehe whoops
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[16-Jan-2007 00:19:28] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - 12 Jan 2007 - 13 Jan, 03:05AM
[16-Jan-2007 00:19:29] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=126
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[16-Jan-2007 08:49:40] <ateoh211> hi, trying to test the vmware demo, is there a default password for zport?
[16-Jan-2007 08:49:47] <ateoh211> or for the zope instance?
[16-Jan-2007 08:50:07] <ateoh211> I see no mention in the quickstart guide what this might be.
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[17-Jan-2007 09:23:42] <rjt_> hello
[17-Jan-2007 09:24:33] <rjt_> a question on portscan plugin, I am only able to gather information for ssh, smtp although many other ports are open, have increased the max port in zproperties
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[17-Jan-2007 15:34:06] <giesen> is there any way to have unacknowledged alerts repeat themselves every hour or something
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[19-Jan-2007 00:21:20] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - How to Skin a Trac - 12 Jan, 08:05PM
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[19-Jan-2007 06:47:03] <lucipher> hello
[19-Jan-2007 06:50:04] <lucipher> has any had this error I'm getting when we access 'Events' portion of zenoss ? http://pastebin.com/862785
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[19-Jan-2007 07:14:19] <amikhailov> hello. anybody alive?
[19-Jan-2007 07:16:21] <nassy> i am
[19-Jan-2007 07:16:49] <amikhailov> wow. i'm impressed
[19-Jan-2007 07:17:11] <nassy> usually quiet eh
[19-Jan-2007 07:17:15] <amikhailov> do you have any exp in installation of Zenoss?
[19-Jan-2007 07:17:31] <nassy> no, i am a newbie having a few problems with graphs
[19-Jan-2007 07:18:00] <nassy> but maybe i can help. cant hurt to describe your problem
[19-Jan-2007 07:19:32] <amikhailov> where is initialize URL for zenoss after installation. i'm just install it and haven't any ideas 'bout what next
[19-Jan-2007 07:19:42] <amikhailov> do you know it?
[19-Jan-2007 07:20:40] <nassy> what do you mean initialize?
[19-Jan-2007 07:20:55] <nassy> you want to know after installing how do you connect to it
[19-Jan-2007 07:22:04] <amikhailov> yes
[19-Jan-2007 07:22:52] <nassy> if you are using the same machine you installed it on. in your web browser type: http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd
[19-Jan-2007 07:22:53] <amikhailov> will i make soft link for folder zenoss in /opt or just put changes in httpd.conf
[19-Jan-2007 07:23:38] <nassy> i installed some in /opt and some in /usr and made symbolic links
[19-Jan-2007 07:25:51] <amikhailov> can you show me the path, prothet?
where you take this wisdom about links? [19-Jan-2007 07:27:08] <nassy> i just created the links based on the errors i got when i installed. ie, i would install and it would say error and i'd look at the error to see what it was looking for and make the link based on that until all my errors went away
[19-Jan-2007 07:27:17] <nassy> and it installed ok
[19-Jan-2007 07:28:14] <amikhailov> ok. i try again
[19-Jan-2007 07:28:27] <amikhailov> thank you
[19-Jan-2007 07:29:04] <nassy> ok, no problem. consider joing the email list. you may get more help as you try to fix the install errors
[19-Jan-2007 07:32:56] <amikhailov> good bye
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[19-Jan-2007 08:43:47] <lucipher> anyone having similar issues, log here: http://pastebin.com/862785 ?
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[21-Jan-2007 08:39:09] <monrad> hi everybody
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[21-Jan-2007 22:35:36] <_lunix_> hello all....
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[22-Jan-2007 16:55:07] <difeta> I cannot see any performance graphs. I've restarted all the zenoss services and let it sit for about an hour and nothing has appeared.
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[23-Jan-2007 08:25:39] <carl> anyone awake?
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[23-Jan-2007 11:58:11] <Tomi> Hello everyone
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[23-Jan-2007 12:23:57] <Tomi> hello
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[23-Jan-2007 13:01:29] <darkhelmet> howdy, got a question about a problem I'm having.
[23-Jan-2007 13:02:17] <darkhelmet> seems my server took a power hit yesterday and now the web interface doesn't work.
[23-Jan-2007 13:02:50] <darkhelmet> it's still monitoring devices since I still get alerts but I just can't get to the interface.
[23-Jan-2007 13:03:11] <darkhelmet> tried restarting services, rebooting...no dice.
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[23-Jan-2007 18:24:18] <difeta> where can I get information on how to get zentrap to work? Do I need to have snmptrapd running?
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[24-Jan-2007 12:22:42] <incorrect> hello
[24-Jan-2007 12:23:07] <incorrect> i've just compiled zenoss and am looking to add devices
[24-Jan-2007 12:23:08] <chet> incorrect: Hi.
[24-Jan-2007 12:23:32] <incorrect> is the snmpd.conf left in etc an 'ideal' example to use with zenoss?
[24-Jan-2007 12:24:44] <chet> I think that was the intention, but it seems overly complex for that it does
[24-Jan-2007 12:24:51] <chet> I'd stick to "rocommunity whatever"
[24-Jan-2007 12:25:46] <chet> Most of my devices have only three lines in them.
[24-Jan-2007 12:25:53] <chet> rocommunity whatever
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:01] <incorrect> ok
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:02] <chet> sysLocation location
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:07] <chet> sysContact contact@place.com
[24-Jan-2007 12:26:26] <incorrect> oh i have no cmd plugins, is that bad?
[24-Jan-2007 12:27:05] <chet> Probably not. They can be useful for monitoring specific things, but I wouldn't worry about them at first.
[24-Jan-2007 12:27:24] <incorrect> ok i don't seem to be able to collect info
[24-Jan-2007 12:27:40] <incorrect> i've added one device set my community
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:06] <incorrect> but it just hangs
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:18] <chet> Does it eventually come back with an error message?
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:28] <chet> Something like "no snmp found .."
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:33] <incorrect> pj wpw
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:35] <incorrect> client timed out
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:36] <incorrect> ah
[24-Jan-2007 12:28:57] <incorrect> zen.ZenModeler: client shadow timeout]
[24-Jan-2007 12:29:13] <incorrect> zen.Device: collected snmp information for device shadow
[24-Jan-2007 12:29:17] <incorrect> ok that sounds promising
[24-Jan-2007 12:29:36] <incorrect> its very slow!
[24-Jan-2007 12:30:11] <chet> Modeling can be slow under some circumstances. Is shadow a Linux box?
[24-Jan-2007 12:30:14] <incorrect> yes
[24-Jan-2007 12:30:27] <incorrect> ubuntu dapper
[24-Jan-2007 12:31:37] <incorrect> oh it just stopped with no more messages
[24-Jan-2007 12:32:10] <chet> Sometimes the installed software map can cause problems under Linux because the list of packages is so long.
[24-Jan-2007 12:32:25] <incorrect> oh right
[24-Jan-2007 12:33:10] <chet> If you don't care to record the packages that are installed you can add "hrSwInstalled" to the zCollectorIgnorePlugins under the /Devices/Server/Linux branch.
[24-Jan-2007 12:33:19] <chet> That'll speed up Linux collection significantly.
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:09] <incorrect> actually i like that feature, but can it really get that info from snmp?
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:18] <chet> Yeah, that is part of the MIB.
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:21] <incorrect> cool
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:24] <incorrect> didn't know that
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:40] <incorrect> ok how do i set it up to scan the network for snmp devices?
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:42] <chet> I agree that it's handy.
[24-Jan-2007 12:34:59] <incorrect> i can track changes
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:18] <chet> Zenoss actually makes a pretty good software/hardware inventory system when setup properly.
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:30] <incorrect> sounds like it
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:36] <incorrect> i am very impressed so far
[24-Jan-2007 12:35:52] <incorrect> its taken me less time to setup than nagios
[24-Jan-2007 12:36:04] <chet> As far as auto-discovering your network goes, become the zenoss user and run "zenmodeler run"
[24-Jan-2007 12:36:36] <incorrect> i could create a cronjob for that maybe
[24-Jan-2007 12:36:39] <chet> No kidding. I've developed so many custom extensions to Nagios over the years. Now Zenoss comes along and does them all and more out of the box. =}
[24-Jan-2007 12:37:10] <chet> zenmodeler can be very CPU intensive.
[24-Jan-2007 12:37:33] <incorrect> its ok this is a quad cpu box with 8gb and 2TB of storage
[24-Jan-2007 12:38:17] <incorrect> its my bacula, (NAS), and when its idle it can help with the compile cluster using icecc
[24-Jan-2007 12:38:20] <incorrect> yes i am mad
[24-Jan-2007 12:39:27] <chet> Mad and well funded.
[24-Jan-2007 12:39:56] <chet> fyi, Zenoss 1.1 will probably be officially released later today.
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:04] <incorrect> lol
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:18] <incorrect> i only stumbled onto it a few days ago
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:26] <incorrect> i don't mind starting again
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:43] <chet> They've gotten pretty good about the upgrade process lately though.
[24-Jan-2007 12:40:55] <incorrect> i don't care i have no data
[24-Jan-2007 12:42:28] <incorrect> that didn't work
[24-Jan-2007 12:42:31] <incorrect> oh well
[24-Jan-2007 12:44:13] <incorrect> i feel like i missed something when i compiled
[24-Jan-2007 12:44:22] <chet> For zenmodeler to work it's important to make sure it has access to SNMP on your default router.
[24-Jan-2007 12:44:51] <chet> It uses the routing tables on it and downstream routers to discover the network.
[24-Jan-2007 12:45:41] <chet> Also you can stick "-v 10" on the end of any command lines to get more verbose logging.
[24-Jan-2007 12:46:06] <incorrect> thanks
[24-Jan-2007 13:07:33] <incorrect> ah i should get omsa working
[24-Jan-2007 13:07:52] <incorrect> finally dell realise its a good thing to OS their drivers
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[24-Jan-2007 15:30:01] <hazmat> ian around?
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[24-Jan-2007 15:34:17] <hazmat> was willing to help out on the manageable index issue.. but if no one from the dev team is here....
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[24-Jan-2007 16:45:30] <jspirko> 12I have a quick question. Does anybody know how to increase the range in which zenperfsnmp runs? The quickest refresh is hourly. Is there anyway to increase to maybe 30mins?
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[24-Jan-2007 20:14:23] <brandon> hey
[24-Jan-2007 20:14:31] <brandon> Is it possible to have an event command run on the local Zenoss box rather than on the device which generated the event?
[24-Jan-2007 20:29:30] <brandon> Are all the event commands sent over ssh>
[24-Jan-2007 20:29:31] <brandon> ?
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[24-Jan-2007 23:15:32] <brandon> anyone around?
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[25-Jan-2007 04:27:22] <dna_pt> Hi.
[25-Jan-2007 04:29:21] <dna_pt> Is anyone awake ?
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[26-Jan-2007 02:02:05] <incorrect> hello
[26-Jan-2007 03:27:16] <incorrect> i can't seem to get lists of software from linux
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[26-Jan-2007 04:24:49] <incorrect> strange, cacti can get info from my snmpd.conf but zenoss can't
[26-Jan-2007 04:42:00] <incorrect> how can i force a commit on an unchanged file?
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[26-Jan-2007 05:44:36] <incorrect> i keep getting timeouts when trying to get another from than system info from snmpd
[26-Jan-2007 09:29:29] <incorrect> zenoss seems to get my ram wrong
[26-Jan-2007 09:29:29] <incorrect> sigh
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[26-Jan-2007 13:18:12] <jspirko> 12I have a quick question. I am trying to setup Zenoss for the first time and I am having difficulty generating the usage graphs. I am able to monitor devices with Getif and produce graphs via SNMP. But for some reason Zenoss will not create them. Any ideas? Thanks.
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[26-Jan-2007 14:57:13] <danr> hey
[26-Jan-2007 14:57:36] <danr> I have a quick question and I can't find an answer anywhere
[26-Jan-2007 14:58:14] <danr> is there a way to change the alert url from hostname to ip?
[26-Jan-2007 15:07:34] <danr> anyone
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[28-Jan-2007 11:24:35] <Eposhark> Hi, I installed zenoss on a test server, but I want to "uninstall" it now
[28-Jan-2007 11:24:38] <Eposhark> How do I do that?
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[28-Jan-2007 12:07:30] <Eposhark> Hi, I'd like to uninstall Zenoss
[28-Jan-2007 12:07:33] <Eposhark> What's the best way?
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[28-Jan-2007 22:58:53] <_lunix_> Eposhark : you still want to know how to uninstall zenoss ?
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[29-Jan-2007 03:26:46] <incorrect> is this place still dead
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[29-Jan-2007 04:59:35] <incorrect> strange graphs don't seem to get generated
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[30-Jan-2007 13:55:16] <monrad> evening
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[31-Jan-2007 05:07:34] <VlaDar> hello there
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:11] <VlaDar> I'am traying to configure zenoss to monitor a linux workstation via ssh and whan I run "zenmodeler run -d linuxstatin" command I get this kind of error :
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:28] <VlaDar> ERROR:zen.ApplyDataMap:plugin zenoss.cmd.linux.ifconfig device linuxstation
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> raceback (most recent call last):
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 74, in processClient
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> datamaps = plugin.process(device, results, log)
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/cmd/linux/ifconfig.py", line 62, in process
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:39] <VlaDar> if "UP" in flags: iface.operStatus = 1
[31-Jan-2007 05:09:40] <VlaDar> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'iface' referenced before assignment
[31-Jan-2007 05:10:03] <VlaDar> I googled for it but found nothing ?
[31-Jan-2007 05:11:01] <VlaDar> any idea ?
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[31-Jan-2007 09:22:01] <Tomi> Hello everyone, I am Tomi and I work with Zenoss Inc.
[31-Jan-2007 09:22:26] <Tomi> If anyone has any questions, please feel free to throw them my way
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[31-Jan-2007 09:33:26] <chet> Tomi: What Linux distribution do you develop on? I'm running CentOS 4.4 on my monitors, but can't run trunk because it only has python-2.3.4
[31-Jan-2007 09:51:13] <Tomi> we run on most of the distros Suse, RHEL 4.3, Centos 4.3, Fedora Core 6 and Ubuntu
[31-Jan-2007 09:53:47] <Tomi> We currently have not tested on Centos 4.4 however, Zenoss can run with python 2.3.5 and 2.4.x
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[31-Jan-2007 10:01:06] <chet> I read on the mailing list that trunk has now moved to Zope 2.10 which requires 2.4.3 at minimum. How accurate is that?
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[31-Jan-2007 12:03:15] <incorrect> this version 1.1 seems very buggy
[31-Jan-2007 12:04:34] <chet> It's working well for me after a bit of work to make zenmigrate work properly.
[31-Jan-2007 12:04:53] <incorrect> its got all my graphs wrong
[31-Jan-2007 12:05:02] <incorrect> it services keep crashing
[31-Jan-2007 12:05:16] <incorrect> atleast its generating graphs this time
[31-Jan-2007 12:05:48] <incorrect> but strangely enough not for all hosts
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:22] <incorrect> im not overly convinced by zenoss at the moment, they don't seem to have basics right
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:23] <chet> The best general advice I can give would be to stop zenoss completely, make sure all of the processes are actually stopped, then delete everything in the log directory.
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:40] <chet> Start it up again, and look at each log file to make sure they aren't throwing exceptions.
[31-Jan-2007 12:06:52] <incorrect> they are all throwing errors
[31-Jan-2007 12:07:01] <incorrect> i wiped it and started again
[31-Jan-2007 12:07:20] <incorrect> oh yes and it totally dies when i try and put an event into history
[31-Jan-2007 12:09:30] <chet> Could you elaborate on "totally dies" ?
[31-Jan-2007 12:09:44] <incorrect> well it goes to the 'submit a bug'
[31-Jan-2007 12:09:59] <chet> So there's a stack trace?
[31-Jan-2007 12:10:30] <incorrect> i submitted it so whoever reads those things should be happy
[31-Jan-2007 12:11:19] <chet> I'd be scared if a stack trace made anyone happy. =}
[31-Jan-2007 12:11:55] <incorrect> im not sure what the best thing to do is,
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:10] <incorrect> either go back to using a combination of cacti and nagios
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:11] <chet> Just FYI, I'm not a Zenoss employee or developer.. just a user like you. So I don't have access to wherever those reports go.
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:31] <incorrect> or try another project
[31-Jan-2007 12:12:48] <incorrect> which ones have you used before?
[31-Jan-2007 12:13:14] <chet> I'm currently using Nagios with a bunch of custom extensions to monitor my company's IT network.
[31-Jan-2007 12:13:30] <Aziraphale> there isn't anything free that comes even close to what Zenoss does
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:08] <Aziraphale> I oughta know, I used to do NMS for a living
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:08] <chet> Zenoss is without question the most ambitious of the free NMS projects. Even more so than OpenNMS.
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:39] <chet> Unfortunately with great power usually comes great complexity.
[31-Jan-2007 12:14:56] <chet> Nagios is rock-solid, but very basic.
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:08] <Aziraphale> OpenNMS is the point-in-case of thast
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:14] <chet> OpenNMS is a run away train.
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:15] <Aziraphale> that*
[31-Jan-2007 12:15:55] <chet> Maybe if you're a Java guru OpenNMS would be nice..
[31-Jan-2007 12:16:23] <chet> You could say the same thing about being a Python/Zope guru and Zenoss.
[31-Jan-2007 12:16:51] <chet> However, in my opinion, becoming a Python/Zope guru takes a lot less time.
[31-Jan-2007 12:17:00] <chet> I had never touched them before starting to use Zenoss about a month ago.
[31-Jan-2007 12:18:46] <chet> As far as NMS goes, you should ask yourself this. Do I have time, patience and desire, or do I have money?
[31-Jan-2007 12:18:57] <chet> If you have neither, you should quit your job and apply at McDonalds.
[31-Jan-2007 12:19:41] <Aziraphale> how is that exclusive? you need at least time, patience and money for most commercial NMS
[31-Jan-2007 12:19:58] <chet> heh.. I was thinking about including time after I typed it.
[31-Jan-2007 12:20:49] <chet> You could use What's up Pro.. that looks straight-forward. But none of the big 4.
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[31-Jan-2007 12:31:35] <chet> I can't wait for the ZenPacks infrastructure.
[31-Jan-2007 12:32:19] <chet> There's so much stuff I'd like to model, but I don't want to have to stick it into the core.
[31-Jan-2007 12:43:22] <Tomi> I'm sorry was away for a bit I will try and answer as many questions as possible
[31-Jan-2007 13:16:43] <Aziraphale> what is the story with zenpacks? is thast some sort of extension pack for a certain class of device?
[31-Jan-2007 13:20:46] <chet> That's what it looks like to me. Maybe a better modularized replacement for some of the DataCollector/plugins stuff.
[31-Jan-2007 13:26:37] <Aziraphale> nice one
[31-Jan-2007 13:29:23] <Aziraphale> was wondering what was happening to that
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[31-Jan-2007 15:41:29] <suprsonic> hi!
[31-Jan-2007 15:41:50] <suprsonic> zenoss feature snmp thresholding?
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[31-Jan-2007 21:00:39] <mike-ekim> hello
[31-Jan-2007 21:00:41] <mike-ekim> anyone live here?
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