[09:57] * Now talking on #zenoss
[09:57] * Topic for #zenoss is: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, Sept. 25 at 11am EDT
[09:57] * Topic for #zenoss set by mrayzenoss at Wed Sep 17 16:10:51 2008
[09:58] * mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Dev is here
[09:58] cluther: ok I'll take a look.
[09:58] btw, the memAvail value returned from Net-SNMP is total RAM - memUsed - memBuffer - memCached - memShared
[09:59] yup, it's a bit odd to explain to people about cached and buffers
[10:00] anyhow bbl.
[10:00] Hi Matt
[10:01] good morning everybody
[10:01] good morning
[10:01] hello
[10:03] testing out our new google mini for searching the website
[10:03] it's really fast
[10:03] and seems to do a good job of finding everything
[10:04] * Spec has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[10:04] Im having issues compiling zenoss-2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 here is the forum post http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7485
[10:04] IT is tweaking it now, hopefully we can unleash it soon
[10:04] Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2.3 FreeBSD 7.0 Install error (at forums.zenoss.com)
[10:04] any help is appreciated
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[10:07] caseyh2007: I was looking at that last night... we have a bunch of FreeBSD users, but I'm not one of them
[10:08] well, ill keep looking on google
[10:08] that's with the 2.2.3 tarball?
[10:09] mrayzenoss: any news on 2.2.4?
[10:10] it's being uploaded to SourceForge and will be out today
[10:10] mrayzenoss: and enterprise?
[10:10] both today
[10:10] Sweet... 2.2.4 YAY
[10:10] caseyh2007: I've seen that issue.
[10:10] caseyh2007: It happens on OSX too and I know a workaround.. one sec.
[10:10] cool.
[10:11] so 2.2.4 is landing today and the 2.3 beta starts next week
[10:11] big improvements in WMI and JMX, as well as a host of other fixes
[10:13] sounds good. hopefully it'll sort the troubleshooting of WMI problems.
[10:15] caseyh2007: I just responded to the forum post with the work around.
[10:16] thanks ill check it out
[10:20] the WMI code and the JMX have both been substantially rewritten
[10:20] WMI is now completely asynchronous, like other Twisted calls
[10:21] so it should scale a lot better
[10:21] * cgibbons (n=cgibbons@75.148.215.109) has joined #zenoss
[10:22] cgibbons knows a lot about the WMI rewrite
[10:22] have the zenoss team put any thought into monitoring XP workstations?
[10:22] * daMaestro (n=jon@fedora/damaestro) has joined #zenoss
[10:22] dats me
[10:23] question, is there a way to setup predictive snmp failure, ex one of my links is flaky so the server responds to 3 out of 5 snmpwalks but once z doesnt get a respond it doesnt even try again
[10:24] mshundal: zSnmpTries
[10:24] malbon: with the new Windows monitoring code we have coming in 2.3 it should work just fine (and it should work just fine now with SNMP); let me try it right now with the latest code and see.
[10:26] cgibbons: cool, I'm just asked here to monitor the workstations for eventlog etc. likely that in the future we'll want to use it to manage the desktop software inventory too.
[10:26] would sticking that in the zproperties be fine (cant find it anywhere else)
[10:26] mshundal: You should already see zSnmpTries in the zProperties. I believe the default is 2. If you want Zenoss to retry 3 times instead you can set it to 3.
[10:27] thx
[10:27] ok, another quick question, in reports, how can I select machines with a package installed starting with a string like "Microsoft Windows Server" or "redhat-release" ?
[10:33] cluther, i set it to 10 but i still keep getting snmp down msg and soon as i run an snmpwalk from the webUI it works but the SNMP message presists
[10:34] I'm not familiar with the Enterprise reports, but have you looked at the Admin Guide for creating custom reports?
[10:36] mshundal: What is the zSnmpVer for the device in question?
[10:38] malbon: Check out this forum topic, it could be useful for the reporting question
[10:38] http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=5887
[10:38] Title: Forums :: View topic - Reporting Question (at forums.zenoss.com)
[10:39] its winserver 2k3, think its v1
[10:39] but heres the output of snmpwalk
[10:39] SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Hardware: x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10 AT/AT COMPATIBLE - Software: Windows Version 5.2 (Build 3790 Multiprocessor Free)
[10:39] SNMPv2-MIB::sysObjectID.0 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.311.1.1.3.1.2
[10:39] DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (25961790) 3 days, 0:06:57.90
[10:41] cluther: ok thanks, so I write a python method.
excellent.
[10:43] Hey Mike - I thought you loved python?
[10:43] haydnh: no sarcasm was involved.
[10:43] * kells (n=kells@S0106000625f7b75b.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #zenoss
[10:43] malbon: My sarcasm detector went off too.
[10:44] * dorferiferon has quit ("Leaving.")
[10:44] another quiet session. I guess everyone's just waiting for the 2.2.4 announcement
[10:44] wow, you all got false positives, who would have thought.
[10:46] anybody in Texas? I'll be at the Texas Python Unconference next month
[10:47] is anyone else from the team going there, mray?
[10:48] I'm working on bedwards
[10:48] jp should really go
[10:48] possibly JP, he loves Python so much
[10:48] jinx
[10:48] http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/09/24/texas-python-unconference-2008/
[10:48] It really is a quiet one.
[10:48] Title: Texas Python Unconference 2008 | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[10:50] and after that I'll be at Ohio LinuxFest
[10:51] Well if you guys are ever at a London event I'll happily buy you a beer =)
[10:51] I keep trying to go to European events
[10:52] but they're a little more costly
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[10:55] Hey Matt, I'm happy to go to any of the Japanese events.
[10:55] me too
[10:56] Anyone not signed up for the 2.3 beta who's interested in participating?
[11:01] * caseyh2007 (n=CaseyHil@c-208-47-103-130.wireless.sta.beamspeed.net) has left #zenoss
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[11:02] * mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, October at 11am EDT (GMT -04:00)
[11:02] well, bedwards is out and there don't seem to be a lot of questions today
[11:03] thanks to everyone who attended, thanks cgibbons and cluther
[11:03] I'll have a log up soon and 2.2.4 will be announced on the blog/forums
[11:03] today
[11:03] * mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, October 9 at 11am EDT (GMT -04:00)
[11:03] * haydnh apologises for hogging Chet's time!
[11:04] haydnh: we're just happy to get questions, today was really quiet
[11:04] mrayzenoss: are we on the list?
[11:04] * kells (n=kells@S0106000625f7b75b.cg.shawcable.net) has left #zenoss
[11:04] malbon: for the demo? I believe so
[11:04] mrayzenoss: cool.
[11:05] For beta? Yes we are Mike
[11:05] I take it you're giving me a uktest-rtf-zenb01 server? ;P
[11:06] haha, yeah right, there is much chance of that as zenoss sponsoring us to go to the conventions in Texas
[11:06] you guys going to LISA?
[11:07] http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa08/
[11:07] Title: 22nd Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA '08) (at www.usenix.org)
[11:07] we might if it were in the UK (maybe)
[11:07] * caseyh2007 (n=CaseyHil@c-208-47-103-130.wireless.sta.beamspeed.net) has joined #zenoss
[11:08] If it was in the UK and there was a bar next door is what Mike's trying to say... I think he reads BOFH too much
[11:08] with the Jboss (enterprise) zenpack, once the jmx connection is sorted out does it just work? or do I need to do stuff?
[11:09] malbon: I don't know the Enterprise stuff much, I can follow up offline if you like
[11:11] mrayzenoss: I'll raise an issue on the service poral.
[11:11] sounds good. OK, I'm out of here. Thanks again everybody
[11:11] Cheers Matt
[09:57] * Topic for #zenoss is: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, Sept. 25 at 11am EDT
[09:57] * Topic for #zenoss set by mrayzenoss at Wed Sep 17 16:10:51 2008
[09:58] * mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Dev is here
[09:58] cluther: ok I'll take a look.
[09:58] btw, the memAvail value returned from Net-SNMP is total RAM - memUsed - memBuffer - memCached - memShared
[09:59] yup, it's a bit odd to explain to people about cached and buffers
[10:00] anyhow bbl.
[10:00] Hi Matt
[10:01] good morning everybody
[10:01] good morning
[10:01] hello
[10:03] testing out our new google mini for searching the website
[10:03] it's really fast
[10:03] and seems to do a good job of finding everything
[10:04] * Spec has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[10:04] Im having issues compiling zenoss-2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 here is the forum post http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7485
[10:04] IT is tweaking it now, hopefully we can unleash it soon
[10:04] Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2.3 FreeBSD 7.0 Install error (at forums.zenoss.com)
[10:04] any help is appreciated
[10:05] He odo a responder a cualquier pregunta de nuestro habla hispana usuarios.
[10:06] Estoy aqu para responder a cualquier pregunta de nuestro habla hispana usuarios.
[10:07] caseyh2007: I was looking at that last night... we have a bunch of FreeBSD users, but I'm not one of them
[10:08] well, ill keep looking on google
[10:08] that's with the 2.2.3 tarball?
[10:09] mrayzenoss: any news on 2.2.4?
[10:10] it's being uploaded to SourceForge and will be out today
[10:10] mrayzenoss: and enterprise?
[10:10] both today
[10:10] Sweet... 2.2.4 YAY
[10:10] caseyh2007: I've seen that issue.
[10:10] caseyh2007: It happens on OSX too and I know a workaround.. one sec.
[10:10] cool.
[10:11] so 2.2.4 is landing today and the 2.3 beta starts next week
[10:11] big improvements in WMI and JMX, as well as a host of other fixes
[10:13] sounds good. hopefully it'll sort the troubleshooting of WMI problems.
[10:15] caseyh2007: I just responded to the forum post with the work around.
[10:16] thanks ill check it out
[10:20] the WMI code and the JMX have both been substantially rewritten
[10:20] WMI is now completely asynchronous, like other Twisted calls
[10:21] so it should scale a lot better
[10:21] * cgibbons (n=cgibbons@75.148.215.109) has joined #zenoss
[10:22] cgibbons knows a lot about the WMI rewrite
[10:22] have the zenoss team put any thought into monitoring XP workstations?
[10:22] * daMaestro (n=jon@fedora/damaestro) has joined #zenoss
[10:22] dats me
[10:23] question, is there a way to setup predictive snmp failure, ex one of my links is flaky so the server responds to 3 out of 5 snmpwalks but once z doesnt get a respond it doesnt even try again
[10:24] mshundal: zSnmpTries
[10:24] malbon: with the new Windows monitoring code we have coming in 2.3 it should work just fine (and it should work just fine now with SNMP); let me try it right now with the latest code and see.
[10:26] cgibbons: cool, I'm just asked here to monitor the workstations for eventlog etc. likely that in the future we'll want to use it to manage the desktop software inventory too.
[10:26] would sticking that in the zproperties be fine (cant find it anywhere else)
[10:26] mshundal: You should already see zSnmpTries in the zProperties. I believe the default is 2. If you want Zenoss to retry 3 times instead you can set it to 3.
[10:27] thx
[10:27] ok, another quick question, in reports, how can I select machines with a package installed starting with a string like "Microsoft Windows Server" or "redhat-release" ?
[10:33] cluther, i set it to 10 but i still keep getting snmp down msg and soon as i run an snmpwalk from the webUI it works but the SNMP message presists
[10:34] I'm not familiar with the Enterprise reports, but have you looked at the Admin Guide for creating custom reports?
[10:36] mshundal: What is the zSnmpVer for the device in question?
[10:38] malbon: Check out this forum topic, it could be useful for the reporting question
[10:38] http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=5887
[10:38] Title: Forums :: View topic - Reporting Question (at forums.zenoss.com)
[10:39] its winserver 2k3, think its v1
[10:39] but heres the output of snmpwalk
[10:39] SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Hardware: x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10 AT/AT COMPATIBLE - Software: Windows Version 5.2 (Build 3790 Multiprocessor Free)
[10:39] SNMPv2-MIB::sysObjectID.0 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.311.1.1.3.1.2
[10:39] DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (25961790) 3 days, 0:06:57.90
[10:41] cluther: ok thanks, so I write a python method.
excellent.[10:43] Hey Mike - I thought you loved python?
[10:43] haydnh: no sarcasm was involved.
[10:43] * kells (n=kells@S0106000625f7b75b.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #zenoss
[10:43] malbon: My sarcasm detector went off too.
[10:44] * dorferiferon has quit ("Leaving.")
[10:44] another quiet session. I guess everyone's just waiting for the 2.2.4 announcement
[10:44] wow, you all got false positives, who would have thought.
[10:46] anybody in Texas? I'll be at the Texas Python Unconference next month
[10:47] is anyone else from the team going there, mray?
[10:48] I'm working on bedwards
[10:48] jp should really go
[10:48] possibly JP, he loves Python so much
[10:48] jinx
[10:48] http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/09/24/texas-python-unconference-2008/
[10:48] It really is a quiet one.
[10:48] Title: Texas Python Unconference 2008 | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[10:50] and after that I'll be at Ohio LinuxFest
[10:51] Well if you guys are ever at a London event I'll happily buy you a beer =)
[10:51] I keep trying to go to European events
[10:52] but they're a little more costly
[10:53] * dorferiferon (n=jeisenbe@74.202.159.54) has joined #zenoss
[10:54] * nemo| has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[10:55] Hey Matt, I'm happy to go to any of the Japanese events.
[10:55] me too
[10:56] Anyone not signed up for the 2.3 beta who's interested in participating?
[11:01] * caseyh2007 (n=CaseyHil@c-208-47-103-130.wireless.sta.beamspeed.net) has left #zenoss
[11:01] * bedwards has quit ()
[11:02] * mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, October at 11am EDT (GMT -04:00)
[11:02] well, bedwards is out and there don't seem to be a lot of questions today
[11:03] thanks to everyone who attended, thanks cgibbons and cluther
[11:03] I'll have a log up soon and 2.2.4 will be announced on the blog/forums
[11:03] today
[11:03] * mrayzenoss has changed the topic to: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, October 9 at 11am EDT (GMT -04:00)
[11:03] * haydnh apologises for hogging Chet's time!
[11:04] haydnh: we're just happy to get questions, today was really quiet
[11:04] mrayzenoss: are we on the list?
[11:04] * kells (n=kells@S0106000625f7b75b.cg.shawcable.net) has left #zenoss
[11:04] malbon: for the demo? I believe so
[11:04] mrayzenoss: cool.
[11:05] For beta? Yes we are Mike
[11:05] I take it you're giving me a uktest-rtf-zenb01 server? ;P
[11:06] haha, yeah right, there is much chance of that as zenoss sponsoring us to go to the conventions in Texas
[11:06] you guys going to LISA?
[11:07] http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa08/
[11:07] Title: 22nd Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA '08) (at www.usenix.org)
[11:07] we might if it were in the UK (maybe)
[11:07] * caseyh2007 (n=CaseyHil@c-208-47-103-130.wireless.sta.beamspeed.net) has joined #zenoss
[11:08] If it was in the UK and there was a bar next door is what Mike's trying to say... I think he reads BOFH too much
[11:08] with the Jboss (enterprise) zenpack, once the jmx connection is sorted out does it just work? or do I need to do stuff?
[11:09] malbon: I don't know the Enterprise stuff much, I can follow up offline if you like
[11:11] mrayzenoss: I'll raise an issue on the service poral.
[11:11] sounds good. OK, I'm out of here. Thanks again everybody
[11:11] Cheers Matt
