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[01-Oct-2007 06:55:01] <m1r> morning all
[01-Oct-2007 08:28:17] <Folke> Anyone out there with problems with zenwin and checks on other subnets?
[01-Oct-2007 08:36:37] <Folke> and dying zenhub after that...
[01-Oct-2007 08:40:46] <m1r> i am still trying to get device in list :/
[01-Oct-2007 08:41:12] <m1r> any help is welcome
[01-Oct-2007 08:41:56] <Folke> did you use add device?
[01-Oct-2007 08:44:54] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 08:44:58] <m1r> but nothing shows up
[01-Oct-2007 08:45:16] <m1r> i tried with wget also
[01-Oct-2007 08:46:27] <m1r> no IP found for name siemens
[01-Oct-2007 08:46:55] <Freak> locationGeoMap only shows me one out of two devic locations (actually it shows me the first one I've entered) - is that a n error? shouldnt it show me both available devices?
[01-Oct-2007 08:47:36] <Freak> *device
[01-Oct-2007 08:51:26] <Folke> mlr: can you get name resolution from the zenoss server to the siemens server?
[01-Oct-2007 08:51:56] <m1r> folke, i can ping it
[01-Oct-2007 08:52:23] <m1r> siemens is dsl/router/AP
[01-Oct-2007 08:52:52] <Freak> try the IP address then
[01-Oct-2007 08:53:09] <m1r> thru managment/add device ?
[01-Oct-2007 08:53:57] <Freak> take Classes->Devices->Dropdown-Arrow->Manage->Add Device
[01-Oct-2007 08:54:36] <m1r> ok sec
[01-Oct-2007 08:57:19] <m1r> it was loading , and then left field blank
[01-Oct-2007 08:58:45] <m1r> dont work :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:00:12] <m1r> maybe i configured snmpconf wrong
[01-Oct-2007 09:02:48] <Folke> mlr: sry was afk..
[01-Oct-2007 09:03:05] <Folke> m1r: can you snmpwalk it?
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:07] <m1r> np, me too, making coffe
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:21] <m1r> snmpwalk , i just read about that option
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:38] <m1r> how could i use it ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:43] <m1r> snmpwalk IP ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:05:20] <m1r> snmpwalk 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:05:20] <m1r> snmpwalk: Timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:06:43] <m1r> does that mean snmpd is configured wrong ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:14] <Freak> most likely if you can reach the box otherwise.
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:26] <m1r> i can ping it :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:29] <Freak> be sure snmpd is running
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:36] <m1r> just sec to check
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:37] <Freak> ps aux|grep snm
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:06] <m1r> usr/local/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf --cycle --daemon
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:15] <Freak> thats not snmpd
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:33] <m1r> root 5528 0.0 0.1 2880 748 pts/0 R+ 13:10 0:00 grep snmpd
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:41] <Freak> thats grep
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:50] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:11] <Freak> what system ru on?
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:16] <m1r> ubuntu 7.04
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:25] <m1r> server
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:50] <m1r> what port does snmp uses ? 161 ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:14] <Freak> so do: sudo apt-get install snmpd
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:22] <Freak> i guess
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:31] <m1r> i have it already
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:48] <Freak> then you have to start it
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:56] <Freak> sudo /etc/init.d/snmpd start
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:06] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:12] <m1r> now try walking ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:23] <Freak> did that workþ
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:26] <Freak> ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:32] <m1r> timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:41] <Folke> m1r: can you netstat -an|grep 161
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:47] <m1r> yes one sec
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:07] <m1r> udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:*
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:22] <m1r> freak , snmpd is runing
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:29] <Freak> hum.
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:36] <m1r> i mean restarted
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:41] <Freak> but walking still doesnt work?
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:46] <m1r> no
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:02] <m1r> i used: snmpwalk 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:19] <m1r> maybe some other option with that command =?
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:20] <Folke> m1r: do you use version 1 or 2 ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:34] <m1r> folke, just to check
[01-Oct-2007 09:14:31] <m1r> Zenoss 2.0.90 r6648
[01-Oct-2007 09:14:58] <Freak> m1r: I guess Folke means which snmp version you are using.
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:14] <m1r> how can i check that ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:34] <Freak> but actually you might be right and he meant zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:36] <Freak> idunno
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:38] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:43] <m1r>
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:50] <Freak> um.. just a second
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:54] <m1r> i guessed zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:59] <Folke> m1r: cat /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf I think..
[01-Oct-2007 09:16:50] <Folke> m1r: sorry for talking out right.
[01-Oct-2007 09:16:59] <m1r> np
[01-Oct-2007 09:17:07] <m1r> but i got big list here
[01-Oct-2007 09:17:16] <m1r> with cat /etc/...
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:03] <Freak> so on Debian unstable snmpd is configured to use SNMPv1 and v2 by default - I guess Ubuntu will do the same then
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:14] <Freak> m1r: use less.
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:20] <Freak> less /etc/...
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:31] <m1r> i am in with vim
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:32] <Folke> m1r: humm, and with public as community?
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:40] <Freak> oh ic
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:46] <m1r> wait i pastebin
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:29] <m1r> hm, i have several entries in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity 192.168.1.250 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:32] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:34] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250 f
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:36] <m1r> rocommunity "public 192.168.1.250" 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:38] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:48] <m1r> that is only strange in that file
[01-Oct-2007 09:21:07] <m1r> sry for paste here :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:22:02] <m1r> should i delete all but one ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:23:13] <Folke> m1r: if you try snmpwalk -v 2c -c public ipaddress
[01-Oct-2007 09:23:24] <m1r> ok sec
[01-Oct-2007 09:24:08] <m1r> i get options
[01-Oct-2007 09:24:36] <Folke> m1r: if you try snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.1.250 ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:24:49] <m1r> it pops me list of options for snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:05] <m1r> ait
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:06] <m1r> wait
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:08] <Folke> m1r: strange.. that should work..
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:13] <m1r> i didnt see public
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:24] <m1r> snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:24] <m1r> wTimeout: No Response from 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:58] <m1r> snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:58] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:26:18] <m1r> 250 is localhost ; 1.1 is dsl/router/ap
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:13] <Freak> m1r: we should maybe have a look at your network...
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:21] <Freak> what box are you on now?
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:29] <Freak> what box is the zenoss installation running on?
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:52] <Freak> from which box are you able to ping this 192.168.1.250 you wish to reach?
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:58] <m1r> laptop , 192.168.1.216 ; server zenoss , 192.168.1.250 ; router/AP , 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:20] <m1r> both boxes pings all
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:37] <Freak> so zenoss runs on 192.168.1.250?
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:41] <m1r> y
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:49] <Freak> and you're trying to monitor 192.168.1.250?
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:59] <m1r> nope, 1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:10] <Freak> ah, you mentioned that, i forgot..
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:10] <m1r> router/ap
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:20] <m1r> or laptop 1.215
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:26] <m1r> anything
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:02] <Freak> so .. does this router have snmp?
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:17] <Freak> and does the laptop have snmp?
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:18] <m1r> ye
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:32] <m1r> laptop no
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:52] <m1r> but i want just AP to be monitored for now
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:55] <Freak> okay, so you try to add 192.168.1.1 as a device now, right?
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:01] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:11] <Freak> and pinging it works
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:16] <Freak> from within server
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:27] <m1r> yes, all are visible on network
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:40] <Freak> then I dont see the error
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:43] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:32:03] <Freak> I dont see what could possibly prevent server from reaching router when using snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:32:28] <Freak> besides.. your network might in a way drop UDP traffic or so.
[01-Oct-2007 09:32:56] <m1r> how u mean that ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:34:21] <Freak> SNMP is a UDP protocol
[01-Oct-2007 09:34:56] <Freak> UDP is one of the two Transport Layer Protocols, such as TCP
[01-Oct-2007 09:35:13] <Folke> m1r: is it possible to snmpwalk the router?
[01-Oct-2007 09:35:16] <Freak> forget the "one of the two" part
[01-Oct-2007 09:35:35] <m1r> snmpwalk says timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:04] <m1r> snmpwalk 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:04] <m1r> snmpwalk: Timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:47] <Freak> but didnt you want to snmpwal the _router_
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:50] <Freak> +k
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:58] <m1r> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=1.88 ms
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:59] <Freak> you just tried to walk the server
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:18] <Freak> snmpwalk -v1 192.168.1.1 -c public
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:36] <m1r> ok sry
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:44] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 192.168.1.1 -c public
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:45] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:54] <Freak> does the router have snmp enabled
[01-Oct-2007 09:38:15] <m1r> i think so let me check
[01-Oct-2007 09:40:22] <Freak> the router needs to support snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:40:34] <Freak> that means: it has to have snmp "installed" in a way
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:09] <Freak> what kind of machine is that router? is it a pc or is it merely a router appliance in a small box?
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:31] <m1r> siemens gigaset 515 dsl
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:49] <Freak> so just go get the handbook and look for snmp support
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:55] <Freak> snmp = simple network management protocol
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:58] <m1r> and guess what, it seems it dosent have snmp in web browser
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:06] <m1r> in web managment
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:24] <Freak> see
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:28] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:29] <m1r> checking now
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:30] <Freak> thats why
[01-Oct-2007 09:44:21] <m1r> nothing on google about snmp with that device but german language :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:46:05] <Freak> I'll have look..
[01-Oct-2007 09:48:56] <m1r> as i understand i need firmware update for snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:49:43] <m1r> not even that, ups
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:05] <Freak> theres no such model number on the siemens website
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:15] <m1r> se515
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:22] <m1r> ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:32] <Freak> is it 551?
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:36] <m1r> 515
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:41] <m1r> crappy one
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:48] <m1r>
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:27] <m1r> all in german :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:33] <Freak> searching for "se515" on the siemens website gives me "Nothing found."
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:42] <Freak> what are you trying to read?
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:48] <Freak> I'm german, just give me the url
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:06] <Freak> I was looking for a manual on the siemens website but cant even seem to find the model
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:14] <m1r> http://gigaset.siemens.com/shc/0,1935,hr_hr_0_42931_rArNrNrNrN_variation%253A-5_pageType%253Adownloads_imagePos%253A0,00.html
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:17] <m1r> this is model
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Siemens Gigaset SE515 dsl (at gigaset.siemens.com)
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:27] <m1r> gigaset.siemens.com
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:12] <m1r> TCP/IP, UDP, DHCP poslužitelj / klijent, DNS prijenos, RIPv1/v2, SNMPv1/v2c, Telnet, UPnP
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:18] <m1r> so it does have snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:33] <m1r> but there is no option for on or off so it must be on by default
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:39] <oddjobz_> Hi, anyone seen this on 2.0.91 ...
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:41] <oddjobz_> Type: AttributeError
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:41] <oddjobz_> Value: dsnames
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:51] <oddjobz_> When looking at the perf tab?
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:02] <m1r> freak , folke , many tnx for your help, i must use my lunch break, will be back in 30-45 min
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:06] <Folke> m1r: perhaps it is started but the community is wrong
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:15] <m1r> how u mean folke ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:16] <Folke> m1r: lunch here too
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:20] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:27] <m1r> buon apettite then
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:46] <m1r> i must run or i miss the good food in local menza
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:48] <m1r>
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:54] <Freak> hrm "snmp" _does_ appear in the manual
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:59] <Freak> but only in the glossary section
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:02] <m1r> afk 40 min
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:04] <Freak> so I'm not sure
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:18] <m1r> damn, think it should be on by deafult :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:19] <Freak> oh you found it yourself. hum.
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:22] <Folke> m1r: snmp community, it's like a identifer for that snmp community
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:34] <m1r> damn guys i miss lunch
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:37] <Freak> you might still need to enable it or as Folke says, change the community string (that is some kind of password)
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:45] <Folke> m1r: like public for read and perhaps private for write..
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:46] <m1r> i c
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:50] <Freak> m1r: you wont die on it
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:00] <m1r> i lose my precious 100grams
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:02] <Folke> hepp. lunch cu
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:04] <Freak> heh
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:08] <m1r> need energy for work
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:12] <m1r> brb 40 min
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:15] <Freak> drink coke
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:31] <Freak> eat pizza
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:39] <Freak> do what all regular geeks do
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:45] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:58:13] <Freak> .. I'm having indian food delivered today..
[01-Oct-2007 10:35:08] <Robbadub> Hi
[01-Oct-2007 10:35:24] <Robbadub> Can anyone help me out clearing the histroy tabel?
[01-Oct-2007 10:51:24] <qubix> Robbadub: just use the following to e.g. keep two months of history:
[01-Oct-2007 10:51:27] <qubix> mysql events -uzenoss -pXXX -e 'call clean_history(2)'
[01-Oct-2007 11:27:59] <Robbadub> thanks m8
[01-Oct-2007 11:32:46] <Folke> is there someone out there who knows how I can batchimport a bunch of devices with help och the ip address
[01-Oct-2007 11:40:59] <qubix> Folke: tried zendisc already?
[01-Oct-2007 11:47:24] <pablo26> hi all
[01-Oct-2007 11:50:53] <pablo26> how can i set dependencies like i have in nagios, for example the other day a firewall went down and i get 50 notifications of all the devices behind that firewall
[01-Oct-2007 11:56:20] <Folke> qubix: I have a list of ip's from our nagios that I would like to import, all on different subnets and so.
[01-Oct-2007 11:57:19] <Folke> qubix: can you run zendisc from bash?
[01-Oct-2007 11:59:47] <Folke> pablo26: I think there was a thread about that in the forum.. I see if I can find it.
[01-Oct-2007 11:59:58] <pablo26> i'll look for it
[01-Oct-2007 12:01:16] <pablo26> mm i think i lookt there and it says that it should be automatically, all the devices had that firewall as gateway
[01-Oct-2007 12:02:25] <Folke> pablo26: didn't it work like it should?
[01-Oct-2007 12:02:48] <pablo26> no i get a lot of notification for every device 2
[01-Oct-2007 12:02:59] <pablo26> one for snmp agent down and another for ping
[01-Oct-2007 12:07:12] <Folke> pablo26: aouch.. wierd..
[01-Oct-2007 12:09:15] <pablo26> device 'ul01.i411.com' network '192.168.13.0/24' not in topology
[01-Oct-2007 12:09:19] <pablo26> this is the problem
[01-Oct-2007 12:29:46] <m1r> hi again
[01-Oct-2007 12:46:47] <m1r> seems i got some info from localhost; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39261/ , but with router still no luck
[01-Oct-2007 12:46:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[01-Oct-2007 13:07:14] <m1r> all right
[01-Oct-2007 13:07:25] <m1r> at least i got winxp monitoring
[01-Oct-2007 13:07:58] <m1r> not much of use but a small progres keeps man going
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:27] <Freak> m1r: so just go figure out how you activate snmp with that router box
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:42] <m1r> yes seems so
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:51] <Robbadub> di du use snmpwalk?
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:53] <Freak> m1r: probably it doesnt show up as snmp in the interface, maybe they call it "monitoring support" or something else, you know
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:13] <Robbadub> did u use snmpwalk?
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:14] <m1r> Robbadub: yes i did, timeouts
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:22] <m1r> Freak: i will check again
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:22] <Robbadub> ah
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:34] <Freak> m1r: the other thing might be the community key.
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:35] <Robbadub> no firewall in between?
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:58] <m1r> Robbadub: yes there is fw
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:04] <m1r> but it sees winxp pc
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:08] <m1r> so should see the router
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:11] <m1r> on eth0
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:29] <Robbadub> cab you pin git?
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:32] <Robbadub> ping
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:42] <Robbadub> sorry man my typing is waefull 2day
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:53] <Robbadub> Can you ping the router fromt the zenoss device?
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:58] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:01] <m1r> with np
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:08] <progma> heh
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:12] <m1r> all pc on network are >< pingable
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:17] <progma> is ur kybard massd ep
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:18] <Robbadub> excellent
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:34] <Robbadub> You were checking the snmp settings?
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:36] <progma> does router have snmp enabled
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:48] <Freak> history repeats itself
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:54] <m1r> yes i check Robbadub
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:58] <Freak> we had all these questions before
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:59] <Robbadub> osi 1 and rising ;-)
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:02] <m1r> seems i got too many input inthere
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:14] <Robbadub> what do you mean?
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:34] <m1r> let me pastebin 4 u
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:36] <m1r> 1 min please
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:40] <Robbadub> ok
[01-Oct-2007 13:22:58] <m1r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39263/
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:04] <m1r> this part is strange
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:05] * progma bets it is a typo with commnity name
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:14] <progma> or firewall not allowing snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:25:58] <Robbadub> looks ok to me
[01-Oct-2007 13:26:10] <Robbadub> What kinf of router it is?
[01-Oct-2007 13:26:48] <progma> and you do "snmpwalk -v1 -c public router ip>" ?
[01-Oct-2007 13:26:50] <m1r> siemens gigaset 515 dsl
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:02] <m1r> sec progma
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:06] <Robbadub> ah
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:15] <progma> "snmpwalk -v 1 -c public <router ip>"?
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:22] <progma> i mean
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:43] <m1r> hmm ; snmpwalk -v1 -c public security 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:43] <m1r> snmpwalk: Error building ASN.1 representation (Can't build OID for variable)
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:18] <Robbadub> Bu that means that it does get snmp data
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:39] <Robbadub> But it can't resolve the OID's
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:40] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:40] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:04] <m1r> Robbadub: can u explain me a bit that OID ?
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:13] <Robbadub> These dsl routers do have a extra firewall setting
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:27] <Robbadub> it blocks certain kinds of traffic internally
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:28] <progma> m1r: use the 2nd line
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:48] <m1r> how u mean 2nd line ?
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:56] <progma> m1r: just use public
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:19] <m1r> just public ? times out
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:37] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:38] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:57] <progma> m1r: double check the snmp config on the router and make sure you are allowing from your monitor box or wherever you are snmpwalk from
[01-Oct-2007 13:32:29] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/231/md-231-1.html
[01-Oct-2007 13:32:33] <m1r> progma, 1 min i recheck router
[01-Oct-2007 13:32:37] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Fujitsu Siemens Computers (at www.oidview.com)
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:00] <Robbadub> Check if they have MIBS to load into zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:12] <m1r> Robbadub: ok, 1 min
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:23] <Robbadub> That's for later
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:29] <Robbadub> But first het the snmp working
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:30] <progma> m1r: also try "telnet 192.168.1.1 161" see if you get a response
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:42] <Robbadub> good suggestion
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:48] <m1r> i c
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:52] <m1r> i try that first
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:18] <m1r> aha ; Trying 192.168.1.1...
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:18] <m1r> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:28] <m1r> so , snmp not working on router
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:31] <m1r> i guess
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:18] <Robbadub> It means that is has no service running on port 161
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:32] <Robbadub> aka: snmp is not switched on
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:38] <m1r> that is problem
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:45] <m1r> i didnt saw in router config that part
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:58] <m1r> while on Dlink at my other place i have SNMP On/Off option
[01-Oct-2007 13:36:15] <m1r> i recheck router for snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:36:29] <m1r> on tutorial for that router it says it got snmp but i cant find it
[01-Oct-2007 13:36:35] <m1r> nm, i go recheck
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:26] <Freak> m1r: did you just say your community string was "secure"?
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:32] <m1r> i dont see siemens on that page u sent me Robbadub :/
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:38] <Freak> um
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:39] <progma> m1r: maybe, for whatever reason you can't connect to snmp server
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:42] <Freak> "security" I mean
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:57] <m1r> freak , no but it worked with it, as i recall i set only public on setup of snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:04] <Freak> then it would be "snmpwalk -v1 -c security 192.168.1.1"
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:19] <progma> maybe is just a checkbox to enable? also chck access filters fro snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:38] <progma> m1r: what kind of router is it
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:48] <m1r> siemens gigaset 515 dsl/ap
[01-Oct-2007 13:39:53] <progma> it's always something silly
[01-Oct-2007 13:41:30] <Freak> like having bought the wrong router?
[01-Oct-2007 13:42:08] <m1r> well, for sure i bought wrong one, but at that time that was only stuff T-com was deploying to customers
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:05] <m1r> ok, my friend just reply, there is no option for snmp on that router, he says it is auto turned ON
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:13] <m1r> strange
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:21] <m1r> how small things can ruin your day :/
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:33] <m1r> damn t-com
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:25] <Robbadub> Sorry m8
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:27] <m1r> i call free service now and try to switch it for Dlink
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:30] <m1r> lol
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:48] <m1r> from all the routers in the world i get shi#est
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:51] <Robbadub> I would do that
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:02] <m1r> well mayn tnx for your help guys anyway
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:11] <m1r> i try check with tcom
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:13] <Robbadub> good luck
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:17] <m1r> tnx m8
[01-Oct-2007 13:46:22] <pablo26> m1r have check if there is some rule on the firewall?
[01-Oct-2007 13:46:57] <m1r> firewall lets monitor windows machine on 192.168.1.10
[01-Oct-2007 13:47:03] <m1r> so i guess all is ok
[01-Oct-2007 13:48:06] <m1r> if i couldnt see windows then i would thought FW is problem, but this way i think is ok
[01-Oct-2007 13:48:56] <pablo26> does the router has a firewall? have u checked there?
[01-Oct-2007 13:49:14] <m1r> i think i turned it off b4
[01-Oct-2007 13:49:20] <m1r> let me recheck
[01-Oct-2007 13:50:34] <pablo26> or just allow udp on port 161
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:13] <m1r> ok i got tcom enginer on line, now we see how they good
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:20] <progma> you can test with "nc" for udp connections
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:24] <m1r> btw i managed to telnet into machine
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:31] <m1r> it showed Login:
[01-Oct-2007 13:55:20] <m1r> waiting for guy to find login name for telnet
[01-Oct-2007 13:56:13] <pablo26> there are many pages where u can find the defaul password and users of this devices, very usefull
[01-Oct-2007 14:11:13] <m1r> can someone explain this please: snmpwalk -v1 -c public security 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:11:13] <m1r> snmpwalk: Error building ASN.1 representation (Can't build OID for variable) ?
[01-Oct-2007 14:13:40] <pablo26> which is your community string public or security
[01-Oct-2007 14:14:57] <m1r> on snmpconf i set public
[01-Oct-2007 14:15:08] <m1r> but when i put also securtiy it works
[01-Oct-2007 14:15:45] <pablo26> try this: snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:19] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:19] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:35] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public security 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:35] <m1r> snmpwalk: Error building ASN.1 representation (Can't build OID for variable)
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:46] <Freak> m1r: the second one is wrong
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:52] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:00] <Freak> m1r: snmpwalk tries to resolve "security" as the host
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:08] <Freak> and "192.168.1.1" as MIB
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:14] <m1r> i c
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:16] <m1r> tnx
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:23] <Freak> m1r: have you heard of "manpages" and "documentation"?
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:45] <Freak> or even "wikipedia"?
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:45] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:51] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:53] <Freak> okay, make some use of it
[01-Oct-2007 14:18:13] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 14:18:43] <pablo26> i cant solve this issue when monitoring windows servers: ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[01-Oct-2007 14:19:26] <Freak> http://www.google.de/search?q=%22The+semaphore+timeout+period+has+expired.%22&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01-Oct-2007 14:24:17] <pablo26> what i understand from that is that its an authentication problem
[01-Oct-2007 14:24:23] <pablo26> but i had disabled wmi
[01-Oct-2007 14:26:30] <Freak> sorry. I'm windows-illiterate.
[01-Oct-2007 14:28:59] <pablo26> lucky you
[01-Oct-2007 14:29:53] <Freak> heh
[01-Oct-2007 14:30:12] <Freak> what if I have a host that doesn't speak SNMP?
[01-Oct-2007 14:30:25] <Freak> it will always show "snmp not running"
[01-Oct-2007 14:30:37] <Freak> I know that it doesnt and I don't want it to run snmpd.
[01-Oct-2007 14:31:21] <Freak> ah its a template thing
[01-Oct-2007 14:32:28] <Freak> but I cant remove the template "Device" associated with the machine..
[01-Oct-2007 14:32:38] <pablo26> u have to set on zProperties snmpMonitorIgnore to true
[01-Oct-2007 14:32:43] <Freak> Imean.. I could create a local copy and delete all the snmp checks..
[01-Oct-2007 14:33:08] <Freak> pablo26: hmmm
[01-Oct-2007 14:33:38] <Freak> I created /Devices/Server/OpenBSD and I could only deactivate snmp for all my openbsd machines then..
[01-Oct-2007 14:33:46] <Freak> well maybe I should just create another sublcass
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:34] <pablo26> u can change the zProperties every where u want, on each device or in a subclass
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:40] <Freak> are there predefined templates for NRPE-checks I could somehow import (is that the "ZenPacks" thing??)?
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:49] <Freak> pablo26: really?
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:50] <pablo26> no
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:57] <Folke> pablo26: is it on another subnet than the zenoss server?
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:01] <pablo26> if u make one i want it
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:21] <Freak> but when I'm in the device overview, zProperties isn't in the tabs..
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:33] <Freak> oh its in the menu
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:34] <Freak> sorry
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:49] <Freak> I keep being confused by zenoss' complexity
[01-Oct-2007 14:36:12] <pablo26> that complexity makes everything easyer
[01-Oct-2007 14:36:46] <Folke> What really should be nice to have is to read from nsclient++
[01-Oct-2007 14:37:03] <Freak> pablo26: so is that what ZenPacks are for?
[01-Oct-2007 14:37:28] <Freak> can I like.. create and export them?
[01-Oct-2007 14:37:55] <pablo26> the idea is to create a community where everyone can share zenpacks
[01-Oct-2007 14:38:12] <Freak> pablo26: has that been accomplished yet?)
[01-Oct-2007 14:38:31] <pablo26> no, i'm still waiting for it
[01-Oct-2007 14:38:44] <Freak> =)
[01-Oct-2007 14:41:20] <Folke> pablo26: Bout the 121 wmi error.. I only get that problem when I monitor servers on another subnet
[01-Oct-2007 14:42:52] <pablo26> yes its in another subnet
[01-Oct-2007 14:43:08] <pablo26> but its not a timeout
[01-Oct-2007 14:44:30] <Folke> pablo26: I have exactly the same problem.. When that happens I need to move the events to history and restart zenoss.. Kill -9 locked zenwin* processes and start zenoss again..
[01-Oct-2007 14:45:02] <Folke> pablo26: It'a a bi*ch to do that everytime
[01-Oct-2007 14:45:56] <pablo26> and u dont get that error again?
[01-Oct-2007 14:46:30] <Folke> pablo26: Well, it stays quiet for a while.. But then it happens again..
[01-Oct-2007 14:47:19] <Folke> pablo26: It looks like a process that get stuck.. I will see next time it happens..
[01-Oct-2007 14:47:30] <pablo26> every time it remodels the device?
[01-Oct-2007 14:48:16] <Folke> pablo26: Nah, just happens.. Can't really say why.. Can be in tha middle of night..
[01-Oct-2007 14:50:10] <pablo26> may besome security from windows
[01-Oct-2007 14:50:21] <pablo26> or jus a bug from zenoos
[01-Oct-2007 14:50:51] <Folke> pablo26: The thing is that it happens on all the servers on another subnet.. Dunno really why.. Looks like a bug.
[01-Oct-2007 14:52:30] <pablo26> maybe some timeout problem that is not been handled ok
[01-Oct-2007 15:10:16] <pablo26> Folke wich version of zenoss are u suing?
[01-Oct-2007 15:11:23] <davetoo> all of them
[01-Oct-2007 15:11:33] <progma> <- 2.0.6
[01-Oct-2007 15:12:28] <davetoo> I'm anxious to see a stable 2.1 because I really need the multi-graph reporting
[01-Oct-2007 15:12:31] <pablo26> anyone else has the same problem monitoring windows on a different subnet?
[01-Oct-2007 15:12:47] * davetoo is not using WMI at all yet
[01-Oct-2007 15:13:07] <pablo26> i cant disable it
[01-Oct-2007 15:16:32] <pablo26> my dependencies are not working, when i goto the firewall properties i see dependient devices but when the firewall crashed all the host sent alerts
[01-Oct-2007 15:18:03] <pablo26> and i get this on the zenping search15' network '192.168.13.0/24' not in topology, any idea?
[01-Oct-2007 15:36:21] <davetoo> zenping builds a network topology tree using the route tables it learned from the local server and all the routers it knows about. Did you run 'zendisc --routers'?
[01-Oct-2007 15:39:36] <pablo26> no i let zenoss do it
[01-Oct-2007 15:44:28] <Freak> I asked this last week ago but didnt get an answer, maybe you know now: what can I set as data points for check_disk? I can't define e.g. "/" as a data point..
[01-Oct-2007 15:48:17] <Freak> I mean.. check_load gives me something like this: "load1=0.161;4.000;6.000;0; load5=0.110;3.000;5.000;0; load15=0.087;2.000;4.000;0;" so then I can set "load1", "load5" and "load15" as data points to draw graphs from
[01-Oct-2007 15:48:33] <Freak> but check_disk will produce DISK OK - free space: /dev/wd0a 820 MB (53%);| /dev/wd0a=713MB;1379;1456;0;1533
[01-Oct-2007 15:48:50] <Freak> or even DISK OK - free space: / 820 MB (53%);| /=713MB;1226;1379;0;1533
[01-Oct-2007 15:56:00] <pablo26> davetoo but in networks i see all the devices from a network that depends on the router
[01-Oct-2007 15:58:27] <davetoo> zenoss doesn't know that a device depends on a router unless that router and all the intervening devices, including the server that zenoss is on, have a valid route table. So look at the OS tab for those and make sure they're showing route tables.
[01-Oct-2007 15:59:58] <davetoo> at least look at the route table in zenoss for every device that shows up in a traceroute
[01-Oct-2007 16:01:28] <pablo26> on the os tab all routes are ok
[01-Oct-2007 16:02:06] <pablo26> on the router i dont have a valid routing table
[01-Oct-2007 16:02:15] <pablo26> i cant read it from zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 16:06:02] <davetoo> I'm confused
[01-Oct-2007 16:06:18] <davetoo> How many routers are in between the zenoss server and that network?
[01-Oct-2007 16:07:46] <davetoo> look, just do a "zendisc run --routers"
[01-Oct-2007 16:07:55] <davetoo> Maybe with -v10 set so you can see what it's doing
[01-Oct-2007 16:11:18] <pablo26> i have 2 routers in the middle because its a site 2 site vpn
[01-Oct-2007 16:12:53] <pablo26> that command wont find the other networks, i add them manually
[01-Oct-2007 16:19:20] <davetoo> Then you can't expect Zenoss to know how to put them in the topology
[01-Oct-2007 16:19:47] <davetoo> But you might try manually adding an IPRoute entry to the routers; I've never tried it.
[01-Oct-2007 16:23:38] <pablo26> if i go to /Networks /192.168.13.0 /192.168.13.1
[01-Oct-2007 16:23:47] <pablo26> i see a list of dependent devices
[01-Oct-2007 16:24:16] <pablo26> on saturday the 192.168.13.1 crashed and i get notification for every host in this list
[01-Oct-2007 18:12:04] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[01-Oct-2007 18:35:48] <mutil8> im having trouble with the discover discover devices functionality
[01-Oct-2007 18:35:57] <mutil8> Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor
[01-Oct-2007 18:36:00] <mutil8> gives me that error
[01-Oct-2007 18:41:47] <dschrock> mulit8: what is full commandline you are giving it?
[01-Oct-2007 18:45:17] <mutil8> Executing command: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net 10.10.0.1
[01-Oct-2007 18:45:23] <mutil8> im doing it from the web interface
[01-Oct-2007 18:45:38] <mutil8> i select the network, and then choose to discover devices
[01-Oct-2007 18:55:38] <JordanWilliams> gooooooooooooood afternoon
[01-Oct-2007 18:58:23] <progma> are you kidding, it's still monday ;>
[01-Oct-2007 19:23:52] <Dan000892> this place is dead today
[01-Oct-2007 19:24:14] <Dan000892> too many fires to put out, mayhaps?
[01-Oct-2007 19:24:54] <JordanWilliams> lol
[01-Oct-2007 19:24:58] <JordanWilliams> monday's suck.
[01-Oct-2007 19:25:18] <JordanWilliams> i've got an issue, is there someone around that could give me a couple moments of their time?
[01-Oct-2007 19:25:47] <Dan000892> i'll give it a stab
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:00] <Dan000892> unless it's beta
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:07] <JordanWilliams> nope
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:08] <Dan000892> k
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:25] <JordanWilliams> i've got servers that are setup in the device list, and i've added IPServices to them such as SMTP and WWW
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:40] <JordanWilliams> however, all the systems are showing the services are status "green"
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:52] <JordanWilliams> even if i add a service that would not exist on that server
[01-Oct-2007 19:27:57] <Dan000892> that's pretty odd
[01-Oct-2007 19:28:21] <Dan000892> let me try something on my dev device
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:28] <Dan000892> i have an answer (i think)
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:32] <Dan000892> you aren't monitoring it
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:38] <Dan000892> you think you are, but you aren't
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:49] <Dan000892> two places:
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:07] <Dan000892> first /<DEVICE>/OS/<Service Name>
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:11] <Dan000892> Monitor = true
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:31] <Dan000892> second click on Service Class link on that page
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:43] <Dan000892> Edit tab
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:46] <Dan000892> Monitor = True
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:55] <Dan000892> it's green because it hasn't failed
[01-Oct-2007 19:33:13] <Dan000892> I just tried it with Telnet and it was green til i fixed that second field and now it's yellow
[01-Oct-2007 19:33:35] <Dan000892> and now it's red
[01-Oct-2007 19:33:38] <Dan000892> after 2+ fails
[01-Oct-2007 19:39:07] <Dan000892> Jordan: worky or no worky?
[01-Oct-2007 19:54:36] <dgb> does anyone have any info on setting up JMX monitoring in 2.091
[01-Oct-2007 19:54:37] <dgb> ?
[01-Oct-2007 19:59:24] <progma> anyone using zenoss to monitor windows production servers
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:30] <MoreDakka> v1.1.1 we are.
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:37] <MoreDakka> win2k/2k3 servers
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:51] <dgb> likewise w2k
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:59] <mutil8> is the 2.x branch not recommended?
[01-Oct-2007 20:01:29] <MoreDakka> ?? I haven't upgraded yet and I don't like doing the upgrade process on anything I run...don't like breaking something that is working.
[01-Oct-2007 20:01:32] <mutil8> i just installed 2.0.6 and im having trouble with the device detection
[01-Oct-2007 20:01:47] <dgb> can anyone ahed a little light on why a cisco asa would so through device discovery and then keep reporting snmp down
[01-Oct-2007 20:05:15] <eurowerke> any devs around?
[01-Oct-2007 20:07:51] <progma> did you guys modify snmp with snmpinformant or something similar ?
[01-Oct-2007 20:08:15] <mutil8> i haven't
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:36] <mutil8> /usr/local/zenoss$ /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net 10.10.0.0/24
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:38] <mutil8> if i run that
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:42] <mutil8> Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:45] <mutil8> i get that error
[01-Oct-2007 20:25:58] <progma> is there a way to mass change the monitoring from true to false of a bunch of servers in the same template (i.e./devices/server/windows/*)
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:09] <progma> or do i have to go through each dvice and click False
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:17] <pablo26> progma: to monitor windows servers install snmp and wmi form add or remove windows components install snmp-informant and configure snmp
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:33] <progma> pablo26: thx
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:46] <progma> pablo26: have you had any hiccups with snmp and windows server apps
[01-Oct-2007 20:27:47] <pablo26> progma to change one setting on all devices go to /devices/server/windows/ adn change the zproperties there
[01-Oct-2007 20:28:04] <progma> THANKS
[01-Oct-2007 20:28:07] <pablo26> i'm still trying to get them work right progma
[01-Oct-2007 20:28:31] <progma> pablo26: ok i've only done snmpinformant with nagios
[01-Oct-2007 20:31:03] <mutil8> any of you monitoring a sonicwall appliance? i can't seem to get SNMP to work with it
[01-Oct-2007 20:31:26] <progma> pablo26: i want to stop monitoring a drive; doesn't seem to be listed in zProperties
[01-Oct-2007 20:34:08] <progma> rather, i want to stop monitoring a file system
[01-Oct-2007 20:44:10] <progma> click through everyone, eh how can i avoid this in the future, use a template?
[01-Oct-2007 22:07:34] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[01-Oct-2007 22:10:15] <MoreDakka> Where can I get libmysqlclient.so.14 is needed by (installed) perl-DBD-MySQL-2.9004-3.1.centos4.i386 for the MySQL-Server/Client-standard (5.24a I think)? I'm ripping my hair out over this...
[01-Oct-2007 22:11:50] <mutil8> what distro?
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:21] <mutil8> oh duh
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:23] <mutil8> centos
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:26] <MoreDakka> CentOS 4.
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:44] <mutil8> how did you install perl-DBD-MySQL-2.9004-3.1.centos4.i386?
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:46] <mutil8> using yum?
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:57] <MoreDakka> Yum installed it.
[01-Oct-2007 22:13:05] <MoreDakka> I tried http://www.wesmo.com/rpm2html/contributed/RPMS/MySQL-shared-compat-4.1.10-0.i386.html but that just breaks MySQL.
[01-Oct-2007 22:13:18] <adytum-bot> Title: MySQL-shared-compat-4.1.10-0.i386 RPM (at www.wesmo.com)
[01-Oct-2007 22:14:19] <MoreDakka> I'm a linux newb and installing stuff on linux can go either one side or the other...it goes perfectly with no problems or you stress yourself out trying to figure out why it's not working....I'm at the stressing side right now.
[01-Oct-2007 22:14:19] <mutil8> kinda odd that yum didn't install it if it's a dependency of the package
[01-Oct-2007 22:14:55] <MoreDakka> It installed mysql mysql-server but when I go to update to MySQL-sever/client-standard then it asked for that dependency
[01-Oct-2007 22:16:47] <mutil8> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=24&topic_id=4969&viewmode=flat
[01-Oct-2007 22:16:57] <mutil8> that looks like it may resolve your problem
[01-Oct-2007 22:17:01] <adytum-bot> Title: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 4 - Server Support - Howto Upgrade MySQL 4.1 to 5.0 on CentOS 4 server (at www.centos.org)
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:11] <mutil8> if that doesn't work, let me know, and i'll try and dig a little deeper
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:38] <MoreDakka> You might be my hair's hero for today....It's just updating with centosplus yum rpms....
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:47] <MoreDakka> MySQL 5
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:48] <MoreDakka> yay
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:10] <mutil8> great
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:33] <mutil8> i never liked redhat/centos/fedora for reasons just like that
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:52] <mutil8> it's supposed to make things easier, but i always seem to have better luck with debian, or slackware
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:56] <MoreDakka> I just run what I'm told to run and have to figure it out :-/
[01-Oct-2007 22:22:02] <mutil8> yeah, i hear you on that one
[01-Oct-2007 22:23:24] <MoreDakka> When I'm trying to install the zenoss dependencies it pukes again on me
[01-Oct-2007 22:23:57] <MoreDakka> http://pastebin.ca/722307
[01-Oct-2007 22:24:04] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 722307 (at pastebin.ca)
[01-Oct-2007 22:24:14] <kgoedtel> centos isnt bad, but centos4 is old :]
[01-Oct-2007 22:25:00] <MoreDakka> I'm using it cause the box that is currently running Zenoss v1.1.1 is running CentOS4 so I want to test and upgrade and such to zenoss with the same os.
[01-Oct-2007 22:27:13] <mutil8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el4/
[01-Oct-2007 22:27:16] <mutil8> you happen to read that?
[01-Oct-2007 22:27:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL4 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Oct-2007 22:28:59] <MoreDakka> Oh yeah....followed it religiously. tried a fresh install of CentOS 4 and the first thing I did was a yum update, then reboot then follow those steps. Tried about 3 times now on fresh installs and it kicks me in the ass every time at the last part of step #2
[01-Oct-2007 22:29:36] <MoreDakka> Hmmm...maybe I'll try it without the yum update first.
[01-Oct-2007 22:30:42] <MoreDakka> however, it's hometime for me now. Thanks for your help today, I'll try without a yum update tomorrow and see if that helps at all...
[01-Oct-2007 22:31:48] <mutil8> try to install the dependencies again, and let me see the error messages
[01-Oct-2007 22:31:52] <mutil8> before you re-install
[01-Oct-2007 22:32:35] <MoreDakka> are you going to be on tomorrow?
[01-Oct-2007 22:38:18] <mutil8> should be
[01-Oct-2007 23:22:34] <exothermc_> How do you enter a network other than a /24 ?
[01-Oct-2007 23:29:07] <davetoo> You let zendisc learn it from the routers
[01-Oct-2007 23:29:22] <exothermc_> And that is the only way?
[01-Oct-2007 23:29:43] <davetoo> There's at least one bug open to fix manual network entry
[01-Oct-2007 23:30:02] <davetoo> but it doesn't look like they've fixed it yet
[01-Oct-2007 23:30:24] <exothermc_> Ya cause apparently 10.10.10.0/28 isn't a valid network ID.
[01-Oct-2007 23:30:41] <davetoo> Complains about characters illegal in URLs, right?
[01-Oct-2007 23:31:04] <exothermc_> ya
[01-Oct-2007 23:31:35] <davetoo> Search the trac ticket list
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:24] <davetoo> hmm
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:33] <davetoo> supposedly fixed in r6508
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:38] <davetoo> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/1899
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:45] <adytum-bot> Title: #1899 (Add network netblock greater than /24 broken) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[01-Oct-2007 23:33:40] <exothermc_> so what does that have to do with my example of a /28 ?
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[02-Oct-2007 00:13:18] <exothermc_> Where does zenoss store its data?
[02-Oct-2007 00:21:27] <davetoo> in a Zope object database
[02-Oct-2007 00:21:40] <davetoo> in $ZENHOME/var/Data.fs, basically
[02-Oct-2007 00:26:32] <exothermc_> Ok so is there anyway to modify this data directly when the interface is tripping all over itself?
[02-Oct-2007 00:27:44] <exothermc_> basically I would really like to get a different subnet setup other than a /24, as you can probably see, there are quite a few times when relying on the routers isn't going to work.
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:08] <davetoo> I seem to have succeeded in adding one with the ZMI, just now
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:14] <davetoo> but haven't tested
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:25] <davetoo> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Networks/manage
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:38] <davetoo> there's an IpNetwork class in the Add pulldown
[02-Oct-2007 00:54:46] <bkingx> Hi All!
[02-Oct-2007 00:56:57] <bkingx> Has anyone taken the VMWare image and installed it onto an ESX server?
[02-Oct-2007 01:03:23] <bkingx> Anyone?
[02-Oct-2007 04:10:47] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Code Monkey - 26 Sep, 07:04AM
[02-Oct-2007 04:10:48] <adytum-bot> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=154
[02-Oct-2007 07:49:29] <Freak> what process do I have to restart to make newly added icons visible?
[02-Oct-2007 07:49:41] <Freak> restarting all zenoss services works, too
[02-Oct-2007 07:49:48] <Freak> but that's a bit much
[02-Oct-2007 09:37:40] <Freak> why does zencommand run keep telling me "schedule has 0 commands"?
[02-Oct-2007 09:54:28] <Freak> "ERROR zen.Events: (1062, "Duplicate entry '0afd068335dc7aeaffffffe' for key 1")" <-?
[02-Oct-2007 09:54:39] <Freak> d'uh.
[02-Oct-2007 11:02:35] chairuou_work is now known as chairuou
[02-Oct-2007 11:17:00] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[02-Oct-2007 11:17:02] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[02-Oct-2007 11:19:45] <Freak> no. we be zombies and we wants your braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaainzzzzzzzz!
[02-Oct-2007 11:20:49] <imperfect-> Hehe
[02-Oct-2007 11:20:50] <imperfect->
[02-Oct-2007 11:20:58] <imperfect-> Well I'm looking at ZenOSS to monitor my network devices.
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:12] <imperfect-> I'm the WAN Engineer at a school district
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:28] <imperfect-> Just wondering what Kind of information i can get on my network devices...
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:37] <imperfect-> i.e. can I montior for threshholds?
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:49] <imperfect-> er monitor and be alerted etc?
[02-Oct-2007 11:22:04] <imperfect-> Or is this not something than can function so real time and is more of a data gathering deal?
[02-Oct-2007 11:29:30] <Freak> why does this command >> /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_procs -w 0:$((`sysctl kern.maxproc|cut -c 14-`/2)) -c 0:$((`sysctl kern.maxproc|cut -c 14-`-(`sysctl kern.maxproc|cut -c 14-`/5))) << render all checks impossible?? (zencommand's statement "schedule has 0 commands")
[02-Oct-2007 11:30:20] <Freak> imperfect-: I dont understand the last part of your question, whats that 'data gathering deal' thing?
[02-Oct-2007 11:30:33] <imperfect-> Freak : Like a rrd based grapher
[02-Oct-2007 11:30:58] <Freak> well sure, zenoss is a monitoring application, including notifications and stuff
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:10] <Freak> actually its quite powerful
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:14] <imperfect-> Yeah
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:16] <Freak> but I also consider it a beast
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:35] <imperfect-> Well I need something that can notify me rather quickly if I have a link that is historically flipping out bandwidth wise
[02-Oct-2007 11:33:43] <Freak> thats just a question of your check i+nterval
[02-Oct-2007 11:33:46] <Freak> -+
[02-Oct-2007 11:35:22] <imperfect-> Well
[02-Oct-2007 11:35:26] <imperfect-> The other thing I really need
[02-Oct-2007 11:35:31] <imperfect-> is something to monitor syslog messages
[02-Oct-2007 11:36:08] <qubix> it can also do that
[02-Oct-2007 11:38:17] <imperfect-> Yeah but I'm guessing it requires making retardedly complex scripts to do so
[02-Oct-2007 11:48:55] <imperfect-> Hrm.
[02-Oct-2007 11:48:58] <imperfect-> This is odd
[02-Oct-2007 11:49:02] <imperfect-> I'm adding a test device
[02-Oct-2007 11:49:09] <imperfect-> And there doesnt' seem to be a place to enter the IP
[02-Oct-2007 11:55:32] <imperfect-> Wow.
[02-Oct-2007 11:55:36] <imperfect-> It just killed safari.
[02-Oct-2007 12:03:44] <imperfect-> Anyone around to answer a question?
[02-Oct-2007 12:34:25] <Freak> pablo26: i made a template for the four most reasonably used nrpe-over-ssh checks.. disk usage, load, procs and swap utilization.
[02-Oct-2007 12:34:39] <Freak> pablo26: ru still interested (iirc it was you who wanted that)
[02-Oct-2007 12:38:06] <Freak> I think zendisc should be renamed into zendisco.
[02-Oct-2007 12:51:56] <imperfect-> Anyone know why I can't add a x.x.x.x/22 entry when I add a network?
[02-Oct-2007 14:01:07] <bkingx> Howdy all!
[02-Oct-2007 14:01:37] <bkingx> Has anyone had any luck installing the Zenoss Appliance on an ESX 3.0 host?
[02-Oct-2007 14:06:02] <cluther> I wouldn't recommend it. The VMware image has very limited disk space. You'd be better off loading CentOS 5 onto your ESX host then installing the Zenoss RPM.
[02-Oct-2007 14:08:40] <bkingx> Thanks cluther. Good advice.
[02-Oct-2007 14:09:46] <bkingx> it would be nice if there was on preconfigured for an ESX 3.0 environment.
[02-Oct-2007 14:10:41] <bkingx> Our office has some free space on the ESX Server and thought this would be a great place to put the image.
[02-Oct-2007 14:25:31] <progma> having problems with zenoss daemons starting
[02-Oct-2007 14:25:35] <progma> turns out it can't talk to mysql
[02-Oct-2007 14:25:51] <progma> just want to see if you guys have seen this:
[02-Oct-2007 14:27:19] <progma> ERROR 1033 (HY000): Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'
[02-Oct-2007 14:31:33] <progma> indicates that there's something wrong w/ the mysql table, right?
[02-Oct-2007 14:34:58] <bkingx> I think .frm files are forms.
[02-Oct-2007 14:35:15] <bkingx> So possibly something wrong with the form that interfaces with the DB.
[02-Oct-2007 14:36:27] <progma> ? what would cause that?
[02-Oct-2007 14:36:36] <cluther> progma: That's definitely a problem with the status table in the events database.
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:00] <progma> cluther: thx for clarification
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:08] <cluther> progma: Hard crash or MySQL bug most likely.
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:15] <cluther> progma: Have you changed your my.cnf?
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:49] <MoreDakka> Good Morning all. cluther, did you find out a problem with the Cisco 871 on 2.090 after I sent those logs to you? (just curious....I'm trying to get 2.091 going but it's not liking me.)
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:58] <progma> nope, aug 21 last change
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:09] <cluther> MoreDakka: No.. the snmp responses seemed good. I was expecting to see missing or malformed netmasks..
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:33] <cluther> progma: hmm.. is it possible that someone changed the my.cnf on Aug 21 and the MySQL server wasn't restarted until now?
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:40] <MoreDakka> Well that sucks....hoping that could have found you the problem...
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:52] <cluther> progma: I'm harping on this issue because it's the only time I've ever seen that error happen on an InnoDB table.
[02-Oct-2007 14:45:22] <MoreDakka> This isn't a zenoss question but I'll ask it anyways and see if I can get an answer... Our Production box is running FC5, which CentOS is closer to that distro, 4 or 5?
[02-Oct-2007 14:45:47] <MoreDakka> I just don't have FC5 disks and thought I could get away with CentOS...maybe I'll d/l them today...
[02-Oct-2007 14:46:53] <progma> cluther: hmm the admin here says he did restart it last night
[02-Oct-2007 14:47:43] <progma> let me make sure zenoss can talk to mysql
[02-Oct-2007 14:48:42] <cluther> progma: This could be tricky. What probably happened that some of the InnoDB settings in my.cnf were changed, invalidating your tables. You need to figure out what the my.cnf used to look like and change it back.
[02-Oct-2007 14:49:11] <cluther> progma: If you want to change InnoDB settings, you have to dump the database, change the settings, then import it again.
[02-Oct-2007 14:50:47] <progma> they did do an upgrade from 2.0.4 -> 2.0.6
[02-Oct-2007 14:51:50] <progma> and last night was the first time they restarted mysqld
[02-Oct-2007 14:51:56] <progma> cluther: thanks for the infos
[02-Oct-2007 14:55:51] <Bulwinkle> heya cluther, how goes it?
[02-Oct-2007 14:58:02] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Good.. how're things?
[02-Oct-2007 15:01:46] <progma> cluther: up for checking out a pastebin of the zenhub log file ?
[02-Oct-2007 15:02:14] <cluther> progma: Couldn't hurt to paste it.
[02-Oct-2007 15:06:01] <progma> cluther: http://pastebin.ca/723107
[02-Oct-2007 15:06:08] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - progma - post number 723107 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 15:06:23] <progma> it's pretty redundant, stuck in a loop trying to talk to those .frm
[02-Oct-2007 15:07:37] <cluther> progma: Yeah.. it'll never work until you fix MySQL.
[02-Oct-2007 15:08:30] <progma> ok thanks
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:07] <imperfect-> dude
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:08] <imperfect-> wtf
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:32] <imperfect-> How the in living hell do I enter the network 167.217.96.0/22 into fscking zenos?!?!
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:40] <imperfect-> It keeps telling me it has an invalid character
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:55] <progma> ditto
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:59] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- when you figure it out, let me know
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:06] <imperfect-> This is the most retarded fucking thing ever
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:13] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- lol
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:32] <imperfect-> You'd think they would have solved this on something that is supposedly stable
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:32] <exothermc_> Ok so is there anyway to modify this data directly when the interface is tripping all over itself?
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:35] <imperfect-> You've got to be histting me
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:57] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- I'm not sure it supports anything but a /24
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:07] <imperfect-> Yeah
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:11] <imperfect-> that's completely fucking worthless
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:25] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- there has to be something we are missing
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:32] <imperfect-> I looked at the qucikstart guide
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:43] <imperfect-> it and TELLS you to use CIDR notation
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:47] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Just setup your routers correctly then model them and you are done.
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:59] <imperfect-> exothermc_ : Huh?
[02-Oct-2007 15:14:12] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ so let the routing tables take care of the network shaping?
[02-Oct-2007 15:14:19] <exothermc_> imperfect-: It will autodiscover you networks from your routers /22s /24/s /28s etc
[02-Oct-2007 15:14:22] <imperfect-> There's not even anywher to input a IP address on the damn ADD Device
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:17] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ what if you have two routers handling BGP, in a the instance of a circuit failure
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:25] <exothermc_> imperfect-: hmm well if you can't figure that much out.... back to the manual for you.
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:45] <imperfect-> exothermc_ : THERE IS NO FUCKING PLACE FOR AN IP ADDRESS ON THE ADD DEVICE PAGE
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:49] <imperfect-> exothermc_ : THIS IS NOT ME
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:01] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- calm down buddy
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:06] <exothermc_> imperfect-: yup I would stick to nice basic things with pictures.
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:16] <imperfect-> Name != IP
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:52] <exothermc_> Trojaneyez: shouldn't be an issue, our bgp routers were modeled correctly.
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:06] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ ok, i was curious about it, thanks
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:21] <creiht> imperfect-: If you put in the hostname it will look up the ip, and vise versa
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:49] <Bulwinkle> cluther: things are good...
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:54] <exothermc_> creiht: I'm sure he is adding it from the wrong location.
[02-Oct-2007 15:18:24] <imperfect-> creiht : Yeah that was what I just tried before he was telling me to look at pictures or some such shit
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:03] <progma> imperfect-: can you give me some advice while i curse like an ingrateful sailor at you?
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:14] <Trojaneyez> Has anyone in here ever use Zenoss with Canopy (Motorola) equipment?
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:25] <imperfect-> progma : Uhm. I didn't curse AT anyone in particular
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:38] <imperfect-> And I think ungrateful would be the better word.
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:59] <imperfect-> blah
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:02] <imperfect-> Apologies all around
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:09] <imperfect-> Me and Zenoss are not friends atm
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:37] <creiht> imperfect-: I think that you will find if you take a moment to learn the interface, things will make a lot more sense
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:37] <exothermc_> imperfect-: 1.) Classes -> Devices
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:50] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Then click drop down
[02-Oct-2007 15:21:19] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Manage -> Add device
[02-Oct-2007 15:21:24] <progma> imperfect-: you're right
[02-Oct-2007 15:22:13] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Put your router(s) in there and you are done.
[02-Oct-2007 15:24:07] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Well then you will need to go to your network tabs and select which networks you want to autodiscover devices on, but assuming you have snmp setup correctly on your routers then it should all be done.
[02-Oct-2007 15:24:58] <creiht> imperfect-: The other advantage of doing that way is that zenoss will set up dependencies that way
[02-Oct-2007 15:25:16] <exothermc_> my biggest beef with the system was on install I couldn't find the default password to first login.
[02-Oct-2007 15:25:42] <Trojaneyez> how beta is 2.1 atm?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:31] <exothermc_> Can anyone else find the default install password when installing on a RH 4/5 system?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:43] <Trojaneyez> default for zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:44] <exothermc_> From the either the install docs or the manual?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:48] <exothermc_> ya
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:01] <Trojaneyez> admin
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:02] <Trojaneyez> zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:08] <exothermc_> like out of the box it comes with admin/zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:18] <exothermc_> but how is someone suppose to know that information.
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:37] <Trojaneyez> it's in the documentation
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:45] <exothermc_> page?
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:57] <Trojaneyez> 8 of 21 in the quickstartguide
[02-Oct-2007 15:29:56] <exothermc_> but if I'm not using the vmware image why would I be reading that?
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:34] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I found the quickstart guide for the centos RPM/Source install
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:36] <exothermc_> quickstart shouldn't contain information not found somewhere else, only a condensed version.
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:55] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I agree with you, not arguing that point. I just happen to run across it first time
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:55] <exothermc_> Just a beef I had.
[02-Oct-2007 15:31:14] <exothermc_> sourced from a 45 mins looking for that password
[02-Oct-2007 15:31:27] <Trojaneyez> that's not good
[02-Oct-2007 15:31:44] <kgoedtel> 45 minutes to find a password, wow
[02-Oct-2007 15:32:06] <exothermc_> ya I wasn't impressed, (with myself or the docs)
[02-Oct-2007 15:32:33] <kgoedtel> i agree the docs are a bit lacking, but it's not that hard to find the pass :]
[02-Oct-2007 15:33:38] <exothermc_> Does anyone know of a good way to edit the zope object database directly? like when the interface is tripping on itself?
[02-Oct-2007 15:34:24] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ how many people have moved from Nagios to Zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 15:34:36] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ sorry didn't mean tot point that towards you
[02-Oct-2007 15:38:17] <creiht> exothermc_: add /manage to whatever url you are looking at
[02-Oct-2007 15:39:22] <creiht> exothermc_: Though you shouldn't have to do that, I havn't had many problems of the interface tripping over it self
[02-Oct-2007 15:39:41] <creiht> note that I have not had a chance to install the beta yet though
[02-Oct-2007 15:43:37] <exothermc_> creiht: try to enter a network manually
[02-Oct-2007 15:45:07] <exothermc_> Trojaneyez: : I wouldn't move entirely away from nagios btw, it does have its place and does it very well.
[02-Oct-2007 15:46:12] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I have a full blown Nagios server plowing away at 8k devices, I am just looking at something that doesn't require so much custom perl scripting
[02-Oct-2007 15:48:04] <exothermc_> Well yes, I'm not saying don't use zenoss at the core, but depending on your setup, I wouldn't suggest ditching nagios completely.
[02-Oct-2007 15:48:31] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ because I haven't gotten very far into Zenoss, what would you say the prime differences are between the two?
[02-Oct-2007 15:50:05] <exothermc_> Well zenoss is setup to work off snmp from the core, and that makes life easier for changes etc.
[02-Oct-2007 15:50:41] <exothermc_> and honestly for me it was the web interface.
[02-Oct-2007 15:51:16] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I built a customer web interface for Nagios, casue I didn't like any of the options and some people think that you need something pretty to get work done or it's not a good product
[02-Oct-2007 15:51:28] <exothermc_> opennms has a similar approach, but you are still hand coding some xml files, but it does scale really well. Not sure how zenoss is going to scale yet.
[02-Oct-2007 15:52:10] <exothermc_> Ya nagios is great which is why you will see docs for all the nms's telling you how to interface with nagios
[02-Oct-2007 15:52:38] <exothermc_> zenoss+nagios, opennms+nagios etc. but you don't see much other combinations.
[02-Oct-2007 15:53:01] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I did look at oreon, but it was a bit cluttered
[02-Oct-2007 15:53:09] <exothermc_> bleh
[02-Oct-2007 15:53:10] <Trojaneyez> well oreon being the frontend of nagios
[02-Oct-2007 15:54:52] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I take it you looked at it also at one point?
[02-Oct-2007 15:55:30] <exothermc_> Yes I installed it and set it up, wasn't happy at all.
[02-Oct-2007 15:55:52] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I wrote an entire english walk through for it , submited it ,and called it a day with it
[02-Oct-2007 15:56:38] <exothermc_> lol
[02-Oct-2007 15:56:55] <Trojaneyez> i was tired of translating french.. my french is horrific
[02-Oct-2007 15:58:06] <mutil8> groundwork is a fairly easy nagios front end to use, but it's a bit 'sluggish'
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:04] <Trojaneyez> groundwork eh?
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:11] <mutil8> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:23] <mutil8> http://www.groundworkopensource.com/
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:30] <adytum-bot> Title: GroundWork Open Source IT Monitoring and Network Monitoring Solutions (at www.groundworkopensource.com)
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:43] <kgoedtel> i tried groundwork, hated it
[02-Oct-2007 16:00:22] <kgoedtel> the thing i hated the most is how it modified a bunch of stuff on the system
[02-Oct-2007 16:00:42] <kgoedtel> like it replaced syslog with syslog-ng
[02-Oct-2007 16:00:56] <kgoedtel> and tampered with cron
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:07] <Trojaneyez> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:11] <mutil8> yeah, wasn't my favorite solution, but if you just want easy to use, it was
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:13] <mutil8> err is
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:40] <kgoedtel> also, the installation looks self contained but it isn't really
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:49] <exothermc_> creiht: looking at /manage now.
[02-Oct-2007 16:02:00] <exothermc_> creiht: can't seem to find a way to modify the data
[02-Oct-2007 16:02:18] <exothermc_> creiht: nm found it.
[02-Oct-2007 16:18:46] <mutil8> i need a little help getting CPU monitoring going on windows machines. I've got SNMP working, and can see network traffic, free memory, paging, etc, but i get nothing for CPU
[02-Oct-2007 16:19:55] <creiht> mutil8: Windows does not expose that by default, you will need to either install snmpinformant or use the WMI module
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:11] <mutil8> yeah, i've got snmpinformant on the box
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:20] <mutil8> and it looks like it's an issue with the particular machine
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:34] <creiht> ahh
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:47] <mutil8> it was my first test machine, i just added a second, and it's working
[02-Oct-2007 16:21:11] <mutil8> i'm getting errors with zenwinmodeler, zenwin, and zeneventlog on this box that isn't displaying cpu usage
[02-Oct-2007 16:21:15] <mutil8> ERROR_HANDLE_EOF: Reached the end of the file. (38)
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:35] <MoreDakka> When I'm trying to do a zen2dump.py I get: http://pastebin.ca/723215
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:42] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 723215 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:46] <MoreDakka> Anyone shed some light on that?
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:59] <dschrock> does anyone know of a commandline flag I can pass to zenmodeler to remodel an entire class?
[02-Oct-2007 16:48:58] <MoreDakka> nvm...su'd to user zenoss and didn't create the globals properly.
[02-Oct-2007 16:52:30] <kgoedtel> dschrock: zenmodeler run -p /device/class ? i think that would work
[02-Oct-2007 16:53:09] <dschrock> nice, i'll give it a shot. thanks
[02-Oct-2007 17:09:16] <MoreDakka> Has anyone successfully imported data from a 1.x server to a 2.x server? I've tried http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/ many times and it doesn't work.
[02-Oct-2007 17:09:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Oct-2007 17:10:09] <MoreDakka> I keep getting http://pastebin.ca/723238
[02-Oct-2007 17:10:17] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 723238 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 17:14:37] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[02-Oct-2007 17:25:20] <eurowerke> hey everyone
[02-Oct-2007 17:25:30] <eurowerke> why doesn't the zenoss start/stop script start my zenperfxmlrpc?
[02-Oct-2007 17:26:06] <eurowerke> I'm beginning to think that some of these odd problems I've been having have been because I had a root password set in MySQL when I installed zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 17:26:49] <dschrock> which version? after 2.0.? zenperfxmlrpc isn't used anymore
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:05] <eurowerke> so how can I get it to stop notifying me that it isn't running?
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:15] <eurowerke> on the dashboard
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:46] <eurowerke> just wait for the next version? :-P
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:49] <dschrock> go to the event manager
[02-Oct-2007 17:28:14] <dschrock> select clear heart beats from the menu next to 'Edit'
[02-Oct-2007 17:28:14] <eurowerke> ok
[02-Oct-2007 17:28:30] <dschrock> iirc, that should do it
[02-Oct-2007 17:29:17] <eurowerke> yeah that clears it out but why does it alert in the first place? is there somewhere I can disable that?
[02-Oct-2007 17:29:36] <eurowerke> when I restart zenoss or reboot the server
[02-Oct-2007 17:31:13] <eurowerke> it also says that zenstatus isn't running but it is
[02-Oct-2007 17:34:55] <dschrock> i think the status is stored in a db, so it survives a reboot.
[02-Oct-2007 17:35:48] <dschrock> hrmm... what does 'zenoss status' show... i've seen this happen if 2 processes get started instead of 1...
[02-Oct-2007 17:36:50] <dschrock> you could try stopping zenstatus, then looking at the processes to see of there is another one there
[02-Oct-2007 17:37:51] <progma> i'm having this same problem: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/001577.html is there a resolution somewhere
[02-Oct-2007 17:38:17] <progma> zeneventlog doesn't stay on
[02-Oct-2007 17:55:54] <eurowerke> Daemon: zenstatus program running; pid=3445
[02-Oct-2007 17:57:40] <eurowerke> ps -axfu |grep zenstatus.py shows only one proc running
[02-Oct-2007 17:57:58] <dschrock> hrmm..
[02-Oct-2007 17:58:35] <kgoedtel> is there anything peculiar in the zenstatus log?
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:20] <eurowerke> not that I noticed...
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:23] <eurowerke> ah
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:24] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:29] <eurowerke> it suddenly disappeared
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:39] <eurowerke> first time it ever went away
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:55] <eurowerke> seemed to go away after I ran the ps axfu
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:56] <eurowerke> lol
[02-Oct-2007 18:00:23] <eurowerke> it will come back though... hrm
[02-Oct-2007 18:01:05] <eurowerke> the logs didn't seem to show anything weird yesterday when I checked it
[02-Oct-2007 18:01:12] <eurowerke> let me check again
[02-Oct-2007 18:07:34] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[02-Oct-2007 18:09:10] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[02-Oct-2007 18:09:38] <progma> i'll take a stab
[02-Oct-2007 18:18:56] <pablo27> were do i have to go to edit the default message? (emails)
[02-Oct-2007 18:41:37] <Trojaneyez> Will zenoss graph Cisco Bandwidth via SNMP?
[02-Oct-2007 18:42:06] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: yes
[02-Oct-2007 18:42:54] <Trojaneyez> Bulwinkle I must be midding it then
[02-Oct-2007 18:42:59] <Trojaneyez> missing *
[02-Oct-2007 18:44:30] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: have you added a device?
[02-Oct-2007 18:44:38] <Trojaneyez> yes
[02-Oct-2007 18:44:53] <Bulwinkle> click on the device then click the OS tab
[02-Oct-2007 18:45:45] <Trojaneyez> ok
[02-Oct-2007 18:45:52] <Trojaneyez> on OS tab
[02-Oct-2007 18:46:20] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: do you see your interfaces listed at the top?
[02-Oct-2007 18:46:41] <Trojaneyez> yes, and I just found it
[02-Oct-2007 18:46:59] <Trojaneyez> very cool, Is there a way to integrate that graph into the Perf tab?
[02-Oct-2007 18:48:33] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: I've never looked in to it....
[02-Oct-2007 18:48:40] <Trojaneyez> Ok, thank you Bulwinkle
[02-Oct-2007 18:55:11] <mutil8> any of you happen to be using a sonicwall firewall?
[02-Oct-2007 18:55:34] <mutil8> i have snmp enabled on the device, but i still can't add it
[02-Oct-2007 18:55:41] <pablo27> i do mutil8
[02-Oct-2007 18:56:37] <pablo27> witch sonicOs versino do u have?
[02-Oct-2007 18:57:01] <mutil8> SonicOS Enhanced 3.2.3.0-6e
[02-Oct-2007 18:57:20] <mutil8> it's on a 2040pro device
[02-Oct-2007 18:59:00] <pablo27> ok, so u have to enable snmp un the config just to set de community is ok
[02-Oct-2007 18:59:34] <mutil8> yeahn, snmp is enabled
[02-Oct-2007 18:59:39] <mutil8> setup the community, setup the host
[02-Oct-2007 19:00:04] <pablo27> and here is the trick on networks\interfaces for each interface u have to choose wich administration protocols are enabled
[02-Oct-2007 19:00:19] <pablo27> so in the lan add snmp
[02-Oct-2007 19:00:55] <mutil8> hmmm
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:02] <mutil8> there we go
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:06] <mutil8> it wasn't enabled for the LAN
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:07] <mutil8> thanks
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:27] <pablo27> that took me 1 day
[02-Oct-2007 19:04:13] <mutil8> haha
[02-Oct-2007 19:04:22] <mutil8> i started messing with it yesterday
[02-Oct-2007 19:06:15] <mutil8> so now my next question is about adding the sonicwall MIB
[02-Oct-2007 19:06:21] <mutil8> i tried importing it, but it doesn't seem to work
[02-Oct-2007 19:07:13] <pablo27> i added some datapoints of current connections cpu ussage and mem usage u dont need more than that
[02-Oct-2007 19:08:58] <mutil8> can you point me in the right direction on finding these?
[02-Oct-2007 19:09:14] <pablo27> do u have the mib?
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:07] <mutil8> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:11] <mutil8> there's actually 3
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:43] <pablo27> i hav donwloaded a program to see them easily ireason i think its called
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:50] <pablo27> and them copy them manually
[02-Oct-2007 19:12:29] <mutil8> great, thanks, i'll look into that
[02-Oct-2007 19:19:00] <pablo27> anyone knows how to change the deefaul email message format?
[02-Oct-2007 19:22:04] <progma> anyone here admin the zenoss website
[02-Oct-2007 19:27:17] <MoreDakka> In 2.091 (I'm not sure if it should do this or not) on the dashboard on the portlet "device issues" it has some of the discovered devices that don't have any problems but are still listed there...is that normal?
[02-Oct-2007 19:27:50] <progma> pablo27: how do you mean
[02-Oct-2007 19:28:11] <progma> pablo27: the subjects and message bodies?
[02-Oct-2007 19:30:46] <kgoedtel> i think he wants to know how to change the default template not anything particular to a user
[02-Oct-2007 19:31:01] <kgoedtel> since that is easy to do and straightforward
[02-Oct-2007 19:31:59] <lytrean> Hi everyone. I have a situation where I need to have an event auto-acknolwedge itself after a certain amount of time. Is this easy/possible in zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 19:36:39] <kgoedtel> pablo27: i think what you are looking for is found in $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/ActionRule.py
[02-Oct-2007 19:37:42] <eurowerke> Dakka: my zenstatus said it had an issue
[02-Oct-2007 19:37:53] <eurowerke> and it was listed under Device Issued portlet but it was running
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:03] <eurowerke> suddenly it just went away today
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:06] <eurowerke> I have no idea what I did
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:21] <eurowerke> I ran ps axfu to check to be sure there weren't 2 daemons running
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:29] <eurowerke> and ran zenoss status and suddenly it was gone
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:49] <eurowerke> i think it may return if I reboot though
[02-Oct-2007 19:39:59] <dschrock> eurowerke : most likely, clearing the heartbeats took care of it...
[02-Oct-2007 19:40:34] <dschrock> its takes a few for everything catch up, so it lingered in zenoss issues until everything cleared out
[02-Oct-2007 19:41:28] <pablo27> <progma> pablo27: the subjects and message bodies? yes
[02-Oct-2007 19:42:43] <kgoedtel> pablo27: on a per user basis or by default?
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:11] <pablo27> by default to all users, later maybe i need to change to someone specific
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:29] <kgoedtel> you cant do it in the ui because it is hardcoded in the python
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:32] <eurowerke> i had cleared those out before
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:35] <eurowerke> but it would always return
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:38] <eurowerke> i would clear
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:41] <eurowerke> stop zenoss, and reboot
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:44] <eurowerke> and it would be back
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:02] <lytrean> can zenoss set some kind of decay number on the severity of an event? so if the event isn't repeated over time it lowers it's severity until it is cleared?
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:20] <eurowerke> lol wow complicated features
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:20] <eurowerke> hehe
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:27] <kgoedtel> lytrean: why would you want to do that?
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:28] <eurowerke> that's why I'm having such trouble getting stuff to work!
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:33] <eurowerke> one of these days
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:39] <eurowerke> I'm going to install an SNMP agent on my toaster
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:42] <eurowerke> and monitor it with Zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:50] <eurowerke> ^_%
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:54] <eurowerke> ^_^ *
[02-Oct-2007 19:45:07] <lytrean> kgoedtel: i need an event to auto-clear itself after a certain amount of time.
[02-Oct-2007 19:45:33] <lytrean> kgoedtel: if the error hasn't repeated
[02-Oct-2007 19:45:41] <kgoedtel> lytrean: why not just set the critical threshold higher?
[02-Oct-2007 19:46:53] <kgoedtel> also, events already 'auto clear' if the problem does not continue to persist
[02-Oct-2007 19:47:23] <kgoedtel> otherwise if it persists then your only option is to acnowledge it
[02-Oct-2007 19:47:25] <lytrean> kgoedtel: really? i thought a manual clear/acknowledge was required or it would always just sit there.
[02-Oct-2007 19:47:54] <kgoedtel> give me an example, i have never witnessed such behavior
[02-Oct-2007 19:48:34] <Trojaneyez> I work for an ISP and when modeling a Cisco 7206VXR it always times out, I moved it out to 1000 seconds, and still is timing out. It is the Gateway for our customers. I can manually poll it using snmpwalk and it seems to go for ever. Any suggestions?
[02-Oct-2007 19:48:38] <kgoedtel> events go to history if they do not persist
[02-Oct-2007 19:49:05] <kgoedtel> you can manually move them to history, but if it is a peristent problem it will reappear
[02-Oct-2007 19:49:58] <kgoedtel> Trojaneyez: are you sure it is using the proper version in zenoss? (v1 v2c)
[02-Oct-2007 19:50:20] <Trojaneyez> v2c si what i'm using and it responds properly on CLI
[02-Oct-2007 19:50:26] <lytrean> kgoedtel: the problem is that it isn't something like cpu monitoring. it's an alert that was submitted from a standalone application via a rest call. so the application itself never says "hey i'm fine now" so the event sits in the "new" unacknowledged state
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:12] <kgoedtel> lytrean: it seems to me that you would be better of making the program understand what an OK status is
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:39] <lytrean> yeah, i agree. but my manager doesn't heh
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:47] <kgoedtel> laziness++
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:49] <kgoedtel> :]
[02-Oct-2007 20:05:04] <sleske> hi
[02-Oct-2007 20:09:27] <kgoedtel> alo
[02-Oct-2007 20:11:04] <sleske> ah, someone else
[02-Oct-2007 20:11:17] <sleske> do you use process monitoring in Zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 20:14:30] <kgoedtel> nope
[02-Oct-2007 20:14:52] <kgoedtel> but i know some things about it
[02-Oct-2007 20:21:10] <sleske> sorry, was away
[02-Oct-2007 20:21:13] <sleske> ah, ok
[02-Oct-2007 20:21:25] <sleske> well, we use it, but it sometimes loses processes
[02-Oct-2007 20:26:38] <MoreDakka> Hey
[02-Oct-2007 20:26:39] <MoreDakka> In 2.091 (I'm not sure if it should do this or not) on the dashboard on the portlet "device issues" it has some of the discovered devices that don't have any problems but are still listed there...is that normal?
[02-Oct-2007 20:27:16] <mutil8> MoreDakka: does that for me as well
[02-Oct-2007 20:27:37] <MoreDakka> Ah...probably what it's suppost to do....doesn't make sense...but oh well.
[02-Oct-2007 20:27:45] <sleske> I don't use the beta, sorry...
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:23] <mutil8> yeah, im loading up 2.0.6 vm right now
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:33] <mutil8> i'm having strange issues with the beta release
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:40] <MoreDakka> to see if it does it in there as well?
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:55] <MoreDakka> like what?
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:11] <mutil8> well, i can't add users
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:24] <mutil8> and if i click on preferences, i get an error
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:31] <mutil8> device auto discovery doesn't work
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:58] <MoreDakka> Hmmm....what OS?
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:12] <MoreDakka> I just added a user and the auto-discovery worked for me earlier.
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:17] <MoreDakka> I'm on CentOS5
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:37] <mutil8> debian
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:49] <MoreDakka> ... I ?? then :-/
[02-Oct-2007 20:31:24] <mutil8> Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor
[02-Oct-2007 20:31:26] <mutil8> i get that error
[02-Oct-2007 20:31:39] <MoreDakka> Yeah a few people have been getting that error.
[02-Oct-2007 20:32:07] <MoreDakka> I get some ugly errors when trying to model a cisco 871.
[02-Oct-2007 20:32:15] <MoreDakka> everything else that I've tried models no problem.
[02-Oct-2007 20:33:41] <kgoedtel> ugly errors? like bad oids?
[02-Oct-2007 20:35:48] <tolland> Hi Chaps
[02-Oct-2007 20:36:26] <mutil8> howdy
[02-Oct-2007 20:36:40] <MoreDakka> Not bad OIDs...hold on I'll get it for you ;-)
[02-Oct-2007 20:37:56] <tolland> I am having trouble getting the src rpm to build on x86_64 rhel 4
[02-Oct-2007 20:38:54] <MoreDakka> Joyyyy -> http://pastebin.ca/723491
[02-Oct-2007 20:39:04] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 723491 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 20:43:52] <iamiam> hello
[02-Oct-2007 20:44:42] <sleske> tolland: what happens if you try to build?
[02-Oct-2007 20:49:23] <tolland_> sorry - got disconnected - did I miss anything..
[02-Oct-2007 20:49:49] <lytrean> nope
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:29] <MoreDakka> [14:45] <sleske> tolland: what happens if you try to build?
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:33] <MoreDakka> middrf yhsy
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:36] <MoreDakka> that
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:45] <MoreDakka> wow...tired.
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:47] <lytrean> oops. missed that. sorry toll
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:48] <MoreDakka> missed that
[02-Oct-2007 20:51:24] <lytrean> so, there's a setting under Management->Event Manager for Event aging... can anyone explain how that works? can it be configured per event class?
[02-Oct-2007 20:51:35] <sleske> tolland: what happens if you try to build?
[02-Oct-2007 20:51:59] <tolland_> with the current MySQL packages it fails due to dependency requirements...
[02-Oct-2007 20:52:10] <MoreDakka> Yeah I gave up on that.
[02-Oct-2007 20:52:23] <MoreDakka> Asks for like libsomething.14 right?
[02-Oct-2007 20:52:32] <tolland_> so I looked at the spec file and I can see that I can change the server-standard and cleint-standard to community
[02-Oct-2007 20:53:22] <tolland_> however it is requiring the MySQL-shared-community
[02-Oct-2007 20:53:41] <tolland_> but I have the MySQL-shared-compat installed, which is required by php-myqsl
[02-Oct-2007 20:54:33] <tolland_> and trying to install both won't work
[02-Oct-2007 20:55:03] <tolland_> if I force it to use require the MySQL-shared-compat, the build fails...
[02-Oct-2007 20:55:28] <tolland_> which is not surprising I guess, but I thought that package had all the required libs in it..?
[02-Oct-2007 20:56:53] <sleske> tolland: hm, sounds tricky, lemme think
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:17] <mutil8> you need to enable the repo
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:33] <tolland_> hmm. according to MySQL docs, if you have MySQL-shared-compat you should not install MySQL-shared-community
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:33] <mutil8> and then install with yum
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:58] <tolland_> however, I need MySQL-shared-compat, and zenoss needs MySQL-shared-community
[02-Oct-2007 20:58:01] <mutil8> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=24&topic_id=4969&viewmode=flat
[02-Oct-2007 20:58:16] <adytum-bot> Title: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 4 - Server Support - Howto Upgrade MySQL 4.1 to 5.0 on CentOS 4 server (at www.centos.org)
[02-Oct-2007 20:59:22] <tolland_> is that to force php-mysql to use the new libs?
[02-Oct-2007 20:59:48] <sleske> tolland: Why do you need php-myqsl? Is that required by the spec file?
[02-Oct-2007 20:59:49] <tolland_> I already run MySQL 5.0.41, I just need the old libs that are in the shared-compat lib
[02-Oct-2007 21:00:03] <tolland_> its required by other applications on the box
[02-Oct-2007 21:01:32] <sleske> tolland: I see.
[02-Oct-2007 21:04:59] <sleske> tolland: in principle you should be able to install MySQL-shared-community _and_ MySQL-shared-compat. They are for different versions of MySQL, after all. What happens if you try it?
[02-Oct-2007 21:06:21] <sleske> is anyone using process monitoring on linux systems, and experiencing spurious "process not running" from time to time?
[02-Oct-2007 21:06:45] <tolland_> no, it says on MySQL site to not install both
[02-Oct-2007 21:06:49] <sleske> I tried to track this down, and it seems to be a problem in net-snmp, but I'm not sure.
[02-Oct-2007 21:07:25] <sleske> tolland: Well, as far as i understand, you need MySQL-shared-community for MySQL 5.x, and MySQL-shared-compat for MySQL 4.x.
[02-Oct-2007 21:07:43] <tolland_> MySQL shared compat has the 5.0.x libs in as well
[02-Oct-2007 21:07:53] <tolland_> ...
[02-Oct-2007 21:08:03] <sleske> tolland: OK, didn't know that
[02-Oct-2007 21:08:55] <sleske> tolland: well, that almost sounds as if the RPM dependencies are simply incompatible...
[02-Oct-2007 21:09:16] <sleske> tolland: at any rate, you can always take the mysql dep out of the rpm spec for zenoss.
[02-Oct-2007 21:09:44] <sleske> Then install MySQL-shared-community locally (not from RPM), and tell the rpm build where to find it. That should work.
[02-Oct-2007 21:09:53] <sleske> tolland: Details up to you :-/
[02-Oct-2007 21:10:55] <tolland_> cool, thanks for the info so far
[02-Oct-2007 21:11:35] <tolland_> heres a link with the info about compat and community versions;
[02-Oct-2007 21:11:37] <tolland_> http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:hSeCRq88s1cJ:dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/linux-rpm.html+MySQL-shared-community+MySQL-shared-compat&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk
[02-Oct-2007 21:11:44] <tolland_> FYI
[02-Oct-2007 21:16:48] <MoreDakka> In v2.091 can the font in the portlets be made smaller? The size 16 font it is right now is big and doesn't need to take up that much space (the systems inside the portlet is what I'm talking about).
[02-Oct-2007 21:17:21] <sleske> tolland: Thanks. Ok, so afaik it seems MySQL-shared-compat is a superset of MySQL-shared. So MySQL-shared-compat should be enough...
[02-Oct-2007 21:18:00] <sleske> tolland: ... but then I don't know why the build fails. Sorry, can't really help any more.
[02-Oct-2007 21:20:21] <Ron_Superior> hi all. does anyone happen to know where I can get the Zenoss API Docs? There is a link to a zip file on zenoss.com, but the file there seems to be corrupt.
[02-Oct-2007 21:25:07] <sleske> Ron_Superior: Look at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs , "Zenoss API Docs". works for me
[02-Oct-2007 21:25:15] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Documentation - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Oct-2007 21:27:00] <Ron_Superior> sleske: thanks, though that's the file that doesn't unzip for me. weird. i'll try it on windows i guess.
[02-Oct-2007 21:27:19] <mutil8> Ron_Superior: if you need, i'll put it up on a spot for you
[02-Oct-2007 21:27:35] <sleske> Ron: OK, now I see. Download works, but file seems corrupt (probably truncated, as i can extract the first file).
[02-Oct-2007 21:28:13] <sleske> At any rate, it says it's autogenerated from the sources, so you can just grab the sources and read the comments (you'll need them anyway, probably).
[02-Oct-2007 21:28:15] <mutil8> same
[02-Oct-2007 21:29:20] <Ron_Superior> ah ok. thanks all.
[02-Oct-2007 21:31:18] <sleske> When I use process monitoring, sometimes the events "process not running" will not clear, even though the process is back.
[02-Oct-2007 21:31:26] <sleske> Anyone experiencing that?
[02-Oct-2007 21:32:04] <sleske> The process is back, and is being picked up by Zenoss (I can see that in zenprocess.log), but the event doesn't clear.
[02-Oct-2007 21:32:20] <sleske> If I clear the event by hand, everything's OK (the event doesn't come back).
[02-Oct-2007 21:35:42] <sleske> Couldn't find anything in the bug db either
[02-Oct-2007 21:40:51] <dschrock> anyone have any insight on removing a threshold? I removed it from the template. TRied the PushConfig option, restarted zenperfsnmp. none seem to work. This is in 2.0.91-beta
[02-Oct-2007 21:41:30] <dschrock> i keep getting alerted
[02-Oct-2007 21:42:14] <kgoedtel> i would check for errors in your zenactions log
[02-Oct-2007 21:42:32] <kgoedtel> something similar happened to me
[02-Oct-2007 21:44:06] <dschrock> hrmm... nothing... all INFO
[02-Oct-2007 21:44:57] <eurowerke> I really like Zenoss but all these little problems make me feel like it really ISN'T ready to be used for a production system
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:08] <kgoedtel> well he is using the 'beta' :]
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:14] <eurowerke> I'm not
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:24] <eurowerke> and the problems I get still irk me a little too much for comfort
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:26] <kgoedtel> i have 2.0.6 and dont have any problems
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:46] <eurowerke> they REALLY need to get MUCH more documentation
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:55] <mutil8> im in the middle of a 2.0.6 install to see if it fixes some of my issues with the beta release
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:58] <dschrock> agree on Documentation...
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:07] <eurowerke> so much spotty stuff
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:12] <mutil8> any of you using the enterprise edition?
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:19] <kgoedtel> i agree but at the same time, i have learned a lot more because of the fact i wasn't being spoon fed instructions
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:27] <eurowerke> it's like the docs are based off of what a flawless installation should act like
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:33] <eurowerke> and there's no troubleshooting help
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:35] <eurowerke> poo
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:50] <kgoedtel> well, it is free..
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:57] <eurowerke> I the type who needs to know how everything works before I can figure stuff out well enought to make it functional
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:02] <eurowerke> I know.. :-p
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:11] <eurowerke> I'm just being a nitpick
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:23] <eurowerke> but I do feel a little uneasy about some of these problems
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:29] <eurowerke> like they could come up again at any moment
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:35] <kgoedtel> im the type of person who would rather not know how things work beforehand so i can figure it out myself heh
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:39] <dschrock> mutil8 : no, we are trying to see how much functionality we can get out of the community version first...
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:49] <eurowerke> I'm sure for an high end user monitoring a huge network that would surely detract from the desire to use it
[02-Oct-2007 21:48:08] <mutil8> dschrock: same here, just wonder what the differences were
[02-Oct-2007 21:49:15] <dschrock> mutil8 : there is supposed to be the ability to link different instances together, so each instance can see and act on the other- ie: monitor in Miami connected to a Monitor in SF
[02-Oct-2007 21:50:04] <dschrock> the community version can supposedly do it as well, but one instance is the master, and the rest just poll and send the results
[02-Oct-2007 21:50:56] <sleske> eurowerke: We have similar problems. Most things work most of the time, but when something doesn't, it's a lot of work.
[02-Oct-2007 21:51:11] <dschrock> it is what we are eventually looking to do... we are a national isp so I want to throw a zenoss box in each market and have it report back to a master
[02-Oct-2007 21:51:20] <sleske> We keep intermittently losing monitored processes... which aren't really gone.
[02-Oct-2007 21:51:50] <dschrock> sleske : is it trying to monitor based on pid?
[02-Oct-2007 21:52:01] <dschrock> i haven't touoched process monitoring
[02-Oct-2007 21:52:22] <sleske> And the troubleshooting docs are really practically non-existant. Fortunately the source is available...
[02-Oct-2007 21:52:57] <sleske> dschrock: No, Zenoss monitors by matching process name (and params) against a regexp. But that's not the problem.
[02-Oct-2007 21:53:26] <sleske> dschrock: The proc list is retrieved via SNMP, and that list is apparently incomplete sometimes -> spurious alert
[02-Oct-2007 21:53:36] <dschrock> gah... how fun
[02-Oct-2007 21:55:17] <sleske> dschrock: Yeah. I spent like two days debugging it (and generated a few GB of logs), since I cannot systematically reproduce it... just happens once a day or so.
[02-Oct-2007 21:55:30] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[02-Oct-2007 21:55:39] <sleske> dschrock: But it appears to be a bug in net-nsmp (i.e. on the monitored system)...
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:07] <eurowerke> sleske: that's exactly the sort of thing I mean
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:30] <eurowerke> that would NOT work for an enterprise level user, I think
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:41] <eurowerke> at least for me
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:42] <eurowerke> hehe
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:50] <sleske> eurowerke: Ack. Note, however that in this case I tracked it down as a bug in net-snmp, not in Zenoss (I believe...)
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:55] <eurowerke> what was that problem back in 1.2 I think
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:01] <eurowerke> with a dropout in the graphs like every 8 hours?
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:07] <eurowerke> I can't remember what the reason was for it
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:21] <sleske> eurowerke: Can't remember that one either.
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:24] <eurowerke> that's good
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:28] <eurowerke> does that sound familiar though?
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:40] <eurowerke> I didn't dream that problem up did I?
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:41] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:00] <sleske> eurowerke: There was, however, also a bug in proc monitoring in Zenoss itself. I know, because I debugged it personally :-(. But after submitting, it was fixed within 12 hours.
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:05] <eurowerke> I just remember coming across it somewhere on the zenoss docs area
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:32] <sleske> eurowerke: Can't remember holes in my graphs. But maybe we were just lucky.
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:46] <eurowerke> i think Zenoss is starting to get so big
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:53] <eurowerke> of course I don't know for sure
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:08] <eurowerke> but it seems they only have those 10 or 12 guys working on it
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:27] <eurowerke> with a few more here and there for support and training courses
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:35] <eurowerke> I'd love to take that training course
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:46] <eurowerke> but $2k is a bit hard to swallow for only 2 days
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:15] <sleske> eurowerke: Yes, I don't think they're very big. The rely on the OSS community :-).
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:23] <dschrock> have a good one guys
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:26] <dschrock> i'm out
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:31] <eurowerke> see ya shcrock
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:34] <eurowerke> lol
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:39] <eurowerke> spelled it wrong anyway ^_^
[02-Oct-2007 22:02:43] <sleske> eurowerke: Yes, 1k$/day is a bit steep. But I think 500-800$ is not unusual, so it's not outrageous.
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:01] <eurowerke> yeah I know
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:09] <eurowerke> if it was $1500 I think it would be pretty worth it
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:16] <eurowerke> that extra $500 is a little too much
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:18] <eurowerke> or if it was 3 days
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:21] <eurowerke> that'd be a great deal
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:35] <sleske> eurowerke: You could just ask. Maybe they are willing to compromise...
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:02] <eurowerke> heyyyy
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:07] <eurowerke> maybe you can help me here
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:18] <eurowerke> for some reason
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:23] <eurowerke> when I try to IRC from my local client
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:27] <eurowerke> I can join the network
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:31] <eurowerke> but I can't join the channel
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:39] <eurowerke> or any channel for that matter
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:48] <eurowerke> i have to ssh to another box and get in from there
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:04] <sleske> eurowerke: Hm, don't know much about irc...
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:28] <sleske> Anyway: What client do you use? What does "I can't join the channel" mean? What happens?
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:36] <eurowerke> it really seemed to be a firewall problem, but the fact that I could connect and get the MOTD quickly made that doubtful
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:40] <eurowerke> i was using mIRC
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:50] <eurowerke> right now I'm using epic on a remote host
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:01] <mutil8> if you can connect to the server, it's not a firewall issue
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:08] <eurowerke> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:14] <eurowerke> it almost seems like one way
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:24] <eurowerke> like the server won't take my input
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:40] <eurowerke> it does lag a tiny bit in notifying me about identifying my nick
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:59] <eurowerke> and when I do, it sometimes won't respond, it will just sit there
[02-Oct-2007 22:09:20] <eurowerke> other times I can send it fine, but as soon as I try to join the chan, it won't work
[02-Oct-2007 22:09:25] <eurowerke> that is what happens most of the time
[02-Oct-2007 22:09:46] <eurowerke> i even tried to use an IP address outside of the firewall to be SURE it wasn't the firewall, and I had same prob
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:08] <eurowerke> so maybe ISP? or freenode somehow has my IP blacklisted or something weird like that?
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:12] <eurowerke> bleh
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:13] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:39] <sleske> eurowerke: Sound very unusual at any rate.
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:53] <sleske> eurowerke: Have you considered desperate measures? Like tcpdump?
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:26] <mutil8> can you connect to other irc networks?
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:30] <mutil8> like irc.efnet.org
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:33] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:42] <eurowerke> heh sleske, I actually did run tcpdump
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:57] <eurowerke> but the output was so noisy I'd have to get ethereal or something to analyze it
[02-Oct-2007 22:12:05] <eurowerke> and didn't have the time to do that
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:11] <eurowerke> one thing of note, though
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:17] <eurowerke> is that my forward and reverse DNS don't match
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:19] <mutil8> mIRC is terrible anyways
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:22] <mutil8> use irssi
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:25] <eurowerke> yeah I never liked it
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:37] <eurowerke> I can't even used bitchx from the server I have zenoss running on
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:44] <eurowerke> that's where I first discovered the prob
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:47] <eurowerke> was trying to use bitchx
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:07] <sleske> eurowerke: dns and rdns not matching is very ugly and bound to cause problems...
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:34] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:38] <mutil8> yep
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:39] <eurowerke> I can join channel on efnet
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:09] <mutil8> they probably don't check the dns issue
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:11] <mutil8> i bet that's it
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:44] <eurowerke> i figure something on freenode is preventing me from connecting fully, so that might be it
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:54] <eurowerke> i have gotten through like 2 times before hehe
[02-Oct-2007 22:16:07] <eurowerke> but I end up getting disconnected a while later
[02-Oct-2007 22:21:14] <sleske> eurowerke: What other prolems did you face with Zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 22:21:22] <sleske> Just so I'm forewarned...
[02-Oct-2007 22:22:16] <eurowerke> odd little stuff that just bugged me
[02-Oct-2007 22:22:17] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:26] <sleske> Such as?
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:31] <eurowerke> I think that, like I had mentioned earlier, that some of the probs were caused by installing upgrades with a password for root
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:40] <eurowerke> root in mysql
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:55] <eurowerke> the first time I installed zenoss, it was 1.2
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:02] <eurowerke> and I followed the directions pretty well I guess
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:08] <eurowerke> I don't remember having odd issues like this
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:38] <eurowerke> those install docs aren't very thorough
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:42] <eurowerke> which just irritates me
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:03] <sleske> yes, the docs need work
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:07] <eurowerke> I might try to reinstall again, but some of the methods just don't seem to work so I have to do things I found that worked
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:30] <sleske> I just installed the rpms on RHEL 4. No problems....
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:47] <eurowerke> eah I'm using ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:57] <eurowerke> so can't do that
[02-Oct-2007 22:26:07] <sleske> eurowerke: Well, that _is_ an unsupported OS...
[02-Oct-2007 22:26:44] <sleske> eurowerke: Zenoss uses many helpers (rrdtool, MySQL, various libs...)
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:02] <mutil8> eurowerke: i just did a fresh install on debian etch of 2.0.6
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:16] <sleske> So it's likely that integration issues will bite you if you do stuff your own way.. sad though
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:30] <mutil8> you shouldn't have problems with ubuntu if it works in debian
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:35] <sleske> mutil8: How? Are there debs somewhere?
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:03] <eurowerke> like that note about setuid zensocket after install
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:17] <mutil8> install from source
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:28] <eurowerke> install complains about zensocket needing privs or something
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:41] <eurowerke> but zensocket isn't even built yet
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:43] <eurowerke> arrgh
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:43] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:46] <mutil8> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:48] <mutil8> i can fix that
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:02] <mutil8> chown root.root $ZENHOME/bin/zensocket
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:12] <mutil8> chmod 4755 $ZENHOME/bin/zensocket
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:14] <Dan000892> hah, i think it's awesome how you're complaining about the docs not helping you resolve issues you're having that you wouldn't have had had you followed the docs
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:19] <mutil8> /etc/init.d/zenoss restart
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:20] <eurowerke> hahah
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:29] <mutil8> that'll fix your problem
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:32] <eurowerke> heh mutil it wasn't like that
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:34] <eurowerke> I followed the docs
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:40] <eurowerke> but a lot of the steps just wouldn't work
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:45] <Dan000892> debian?
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:48] <eurowerke> ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:48] <mutil8> dude
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:53] <Dan000892> same diff
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:58] <mutil8> install etch, you'll be adding devices in an hour
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:58] <eurowerke> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:01] <mutil8> and yeah.. same diff
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:03] <Dan000892> (i.e. != RHEL/CentOS)
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:10] <eurowerke> i know Dan
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:11] <sleske> Debian rules anyway :-).
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:13] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:26] <mutil8> eurowerke: if you want some help, i'll help you get it going on ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:05] <Dan000892> i've always used Debian (and Ubuntu a little) - but now I work at a CentOS shop
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:26] <eurowerke> i use Debian myself
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:27] <Dan000892> ya know, you're right about the docs
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:32] <eurowerke> but at work here I used ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:32] <Dan000892> but the information is out there
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:42] <sleske> Dan: Welcome to the club :-). Debian at home, RHEL at work.
[02-Oct-2007 22:32:21] <mutil8> so eurowerke where are you stuck on your install?
[02-Oct-2007 22:32:24] <eurowerke> there was something odd about the zensocket thing during installing on ubuntu, a catch 22
[02-Oct-2007 22:32:25] <Dan000892> most of the work getting zenoss up was with help from forum archives and a _lot_ of reading on SNMP
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:08] <eurowerke> i ended up setuid on /bin/ld so that zensocket could compile
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:20] <mutil8> what release of ubuntu are you trying to use? and what release of zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:23] <eurowerke> then changed it back
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:28] <mutil8> i'll set it up and see if there are any quirks
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:42] <eurowerke> 2.06 zenoss, ubuntu feisty I think
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:03] <mutil8> k, let me see if i have a feisty iso
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:19] <sleske> eurowerke: Hm, I seem to have avoided loads of trouble by using RHEL 4. ;-)
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:24] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:32] <eurowerke> but that's not free is it?
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:38] <Dan000892> ditto sleske
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:45] <Dan000892> CENTos my friend
[02-Oct-2007 22:35:33] <Dan000892> centos is rhel with every reference to "Red Hat" removed
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:04] <Dan000892> kind of like the old Xxx Xxx Linux distribution around RH6 or 7.
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:14] <mutil8> ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:21] <mutil8> that close enough to what you're trying to use?
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:27] <mutil8> or should i grab a different iso?
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:37] <eurowerke> yea
[02-Oct-2007 22:37:05] <sleske> eurowerke: No, RHEL is not free, but CenOS is.
[02-Oct-2007 22:37:16] <eurowerke> if the kernel is 2.6.17-10 then feisty is it
[02-Oct-2007 22:37:22] <mutil8> ok
[02-Oct-2007 22:38:10] <mutil8> it'll take me a few minutes to get this installed, i don't have a ubuntu VM template yet
[02-Oct-2007 22:38:47] <mutil8> did you update after the install?
[02-Oct-2007 22:56:29] <sleske> ok , time to go
[02-Oct-2007 22:56:31] <sleske> bye!
[02-Oct-2007 22:59:30] <mutil8> eurowerke: should be done in about 20-30 minutes
[02-Oct-2007 23:08:23] <eurowerke> sounds good mutil
[02-Oct-2007 23:08:40] <eurowerke> I have updated yeah
[02-Oct-2007 23:08:52] <eurowerke> don't know if the kernel had been updated though
[02-Oct-2007 23:09:01] <eurowerke> mainly just other utils
[02-Oct-2007 23:09:06] <eurowerke> but I could be wrong
[02-Oct-2007 23:09:40] <mutil8> ok
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:17] <eurowerke> nope no kernel image debsin the archive dir
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:35] <eurowerke> ls
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:36] <eurowerke> oops
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:37] <eurowerke> haha
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:06] <eurowerke> whew I should flush this archive
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:07] <eurowerke> yikes
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:22] <eurowerke> eh not that bad I guess
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:26] <eurowerke> a lot of pkgs but only 200MB
[02-Oct-2007 23:12:20] <mutil8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/installing-zenoss-on-debian-sarge/
[02-Oct-2007 23:12:26] <mutil8> that what you followed?
[02-Oct-2007 23:12:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Installing Zenoss on Debian (Sarge) - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:02] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:04] <eurowerke> nope
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:21] <mutil8> there's a few changes that need to be made to that, but that's what i used for my debian installs
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:28] <mutil8> and what im using for this ubuntu install
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:50] <mutil8> it's building for source right now
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:07] <mutil8> i didn't use svn though, i just grabbed the 2.0.6 source
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:25] <eurowerke> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:27] <eurowerke> that's what I did
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:42] <eurowerke> I seem to think that I built mysql from source too
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:49] <eurowerke> but I guess I apt-ed it
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:56] <eurowerke> apt-got it
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:56] <mutil8> didn't install python-dev from apt, installed python2.4-dev (2.5 is what you get with python-dev)
[02-Oct-2007 23:15:24] <mutil8> i had to add autoconf to that first list of things installed with apt
[02-Oct-2007 23:15:45] <mutil8> when you get to the mysql part, install libmysqlclient15-dev, not mysqlclient15-dev (package doesn't exist)
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:03] <mutil8> i also had to install 'patch' with apt
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:11] <mutil8> and snmp
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:23] <mutil8> those are the changes i made
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:40] <eurowerke> i just installed snmp locally like last week
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:49] <eurowerke> all that config was another headache
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:14] <eurowerke> I'm not monitoring the local host, though I could prob use the local proc monitoring to watch apache
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:14] <mutil8> in order to get snmpwalk to work, you need to install the snmp package
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:29] <eurowerke> i never installed the snmpd then
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:31] <eurowerke> until last week
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:55] <eurowerke> just whatever was required to do gets and walks
[02-Oct-2007 23:18:10] <eurowerke> all this stuff was my first introduction to snmp, really
[02-Oct-2007 23:20:02] <mutil8> same here
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:29] <eurowerke> had seen it before and thought it was pretty nifty (I was a network tech back in college) and my coworker had written a web based network monitoring app in perl and PHP that polled all the switches in the network
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:35] <eurowerke> it was a pretty awesome setup
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:38] <eurowerke> but I never got involved with it
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:56] <eurowerke> too involved, anyway
[02-Oct-2007 23:23:01] <eurowerke> just enough to fix stuff
[02-Oct-2007 23:23:57] <mutil8> we're about to deploy almost a quarter million in new hardware, and i need a way to monitor it
[02-Oct-2007 23:24:04] <mutil8> so i figured i'd give zenoss a try
[02-Oct-2007 23:24:11] <mutil8> didn't want to setup nagios for everything
[02-Oct-2007 23:24:17] <mutil8> too much of a PITA
[02-Oct-2007 23:26:17] <mutil8> man i need to get a faster VMware server
[02-Oct-2007 23:29:50] <mutil8> damn, missed a package
[02-Oct-2007 23:29:56] <mutil8> needed to install swig as well
[02-Oct-2007 23:33:45] <mutil8> ok, up and running inside ubuntu 7.04 server
[02-Oct-2007 23:34:58] <eurowerke> oh yea
[02-Oct-2007 23:35:08] <eurowerke> lemme know what you find :-P
[02-Oct-2007 23:35:15] <eurowerke> I'll be around, just back and forth from my desk
[02-Oct-2007 23:35:59] <mutil8> it's discovering my devices right now
[02-Oct-2007 23:38:14] <mutil8> Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-server #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:41:34 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02-Oct-2007 23:38:21] <mutil8> that's the kernel that comes with it
[02-Oct-2007 23:40:41] <eurowerke> hmm maybe got updated
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:34] <eurowerke> the clock is off too
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:42] <eurowerke> i haven't gotten that fixed yet either
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:58] <mutil8> ntp
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:58] <eurowerke> it's better than it was at first
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:10] <eurowerke> it's using ntp but not working well enough
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:11] <mutil8> apt-get install ntp
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:16] <mutil8> should be all you need
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:25] <mutil8> you running it in a vm
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:26] <eurowerke> still drifts an hour or so after a few days
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:27] <eurowerke> yea
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:31] <eurowerke> that's why
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:38] <eurowerke> I changed some of the kernel params
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:43] <eurowerke> but still doesn't help enough
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:53] <mutil8> you have the vmware tools installed
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:04] <eurowerke> using virtual server
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:06] <eurowerke> not vmware
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:08] <mutil8> ah
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:13] <mutil8> same question then
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:17] <mutil8> you have the tools installed
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:33] <eurowerke> vmadditions?
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:33] <mutil8> i use both, and don't have a time issue
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:35] <mutil8> yep
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:48] <eurowerke> i tried installing the other day
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:51] <eurowerke> but didn't seem to do anything
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:54] <eurowerke> cause again, it's ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:06] <eurowerke> the additionsforlinux only support RH suse, and the like
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:07] <eurowerke> in fact
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:11] <eurowerke> i read some o fthe code haha
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:28] <eurowerke> the main vmadd module has an exit function if $system == debian
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:36] <mutil8> hahah
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:37] <mutil8> nice
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:39] <eurowerke> LOL
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:52] <eurowerke> i alien'd the rpms
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:03] <eurowerke> although there is a kernel module, that I might try
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:16] <eurowerke> but then I have to rebuild it
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:16] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:20] <eurowerke> all small problems
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:33] <eurowerke> I might just end up running hwclock --hctosys once a day
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:34] <eurowerke> on cron
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:34] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 23:48:00] <eurowerke> brb gotta go reset a wireless AP
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[03-Oct-2007 00:16:21] <brandonl> Hellpo
[03-Oct-2007 00:16:47] <brandonl> Does anyone know how to rebuild the relations a device?
[03-Oct-2007 00:17:08] <brandonl> *for a device
[03-Oct-2007 00:26:47] <mutil8> sorry, i wouldn't even know where to begin
[03-Oct-2007 00:34:30] <brandonl> that bad huh?
[03-Oct-2007 00:35:33] <eurowerke> so no problems running ./install.sh, huh mutil?
[03-Oct-2007 00:36:43] <brandonl> I have extended the Device class but have to delete devices and remodel them before the changes take place...
[03-Oct-2007 00:38:03] <mutil8> eurowerke: none that couldn't be fixed by check the install log and installing whatever the missing package was with apt
[03-Oct-2007 00:38:16] <mutil8> brandonl: im new to zenoss, so i don't really even know what you're talking about
[03-Oct-2007 00:39:51] <eurowerke> oh ok
[03-Oct-2007 00:39:52] <eurowerke> hrm
[03-Oct-2007 00:39:59] <eurowerke> no errors about zensocket?
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:11] <imperfect-> Hey.
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:12] <mutil8> nope
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:13] <eurowerke> LAME!
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:15] <eurowerke> haha
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:21] <imperfect-> ZenOSS makes some kickass graphics per interface on my switches
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:30] <imperfect-> Is there anyway to get a better like
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:32] <mutil8> the only mention of zensocket was at the end of the install
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:36] <eurowerke> hrm
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:36] <eurowerke> weird
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:38] <mutil8> where it said to do a chown and chmod
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:43] <eurowerke> is your /bin/ld setuid?
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:43] <imperfect-> overall graphs per switch?
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:44] <mutil8> try building it again, and tell me the error
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:59] <mutil8> eurowerke: i didn't do anything to it, so whatever the default is
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:59] <eurowerke> maybe I will ! ^_^ tomorrow
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:04] <imperfect-> So I dont have to click on each interface to get the stats?
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:06] <eurowerke> can you check
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:06] <eurowerke> ?
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:08] <mutil8> sure
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:46] <mutil8> ls: /bin/ld: No such file or directory
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:01] <eurowerke> oops
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:13] <mutil8> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 460564 2007-01-05 03:54 /usr/bin/ld
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:19] <eurowerke> yah
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:31] <eurowerke> wacky
[03-Oct-2007 00:43:16] <eurowerke> brb
[03-Oct-2007 00:45:31] <mutil8> whenever you decide you want to test it, let me know
[03-Oct-2007 00:45:33] <mutil8> i should be around
[03-Oct-2007 00:50:09] <eurowerke> ok
[03-Oct-2007 00:53:55] <mutil8> hell, if you want i'll even package up this VM
[03-Oct-2007 00:58:41] <eurowerke> heh
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:16] <brandonl> So, when I run
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:38] <brandonl> for i in dmd.Devices.getSubComponents()
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:40] <brandonl> print i
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:49] <brandonl> I get a list of all the components
[03-Oct-2007 01:00:51] <brandonl> but running buildRelations on each component is not modifying the existing devices
[03-Oct-2007 01:18:22] <eurowerke> hrm
[03-Oct-2007 04:11:18] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Code Monkey - 26 Sep, 07:04AM
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[03-Oct-2007 10:51:50] <loxs> WARNING:zen.ZenDisc:no snmp found for ip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx any idea why i get this on 98% of devices in discovery?
[03-Oct-2007 11:08:03] <imperfect-> Morning
[03-Oct-2007 11:59:51] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[03-Oct-2007 12:00:21] <imperfect-> I'm trying to figure out why I am getting unrouted VLAN threshold message when I don't appear to be actually monitoring those interfaces?
[03-Oct-2007 12:27:19] <Bulwinkle> has anyone else had MySQL problem upgrading from 2.0.90 to 2.0.91?
[03-Oct-2007 12:42:12] <Bulwinkle> alright, who can tell me where the file with the mysql user and password are?
[03-Oct-2007 12:43:01] <Bulwinkle> zenmigrate is failing due to improper mysql authentication and I can't find the credentials it is using. I just updated them in ZenEventManager and it didn't help
[03-Oct-2007 12:50:35] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle, do you ever go home?
[03-Oct-2007 12:50:47] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: yeah...
[03-Oct-2007 12:50:59] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I'm at work from 7am to 4 pm CST
[03-Oct-2007 12:51:30] <MoreDakka> Oh and I had a huge problem with 2.0.91, fresh install not upgrading, MySQL....yuck
[03-Oct-2007 12:51:42] <MoreDakka> Yeah, 8-4:30 MST here.
[03-Oct-2007 12:52:02] <MoreDakka> but we need to bring the car in so I'm here an hour early today....blegh...sooo early.
[03-Oct-2007 12:53:19] <MoreDakka> Zenoss breaks if you use MySQL Standard24a (doesn't like the 'a')
[03-Oct-2007 12:53:40] <MoreDakka> There is a fix if that is your problem.
[03-Oct-2007 12:57:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I
[03-Oct-2007 12:57:58] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I'm running 5.0.26
[03-Oct-2007 12:58:10] <MoreDakka> ah, that's not your problem then.
[03-Oct-2007 12:59:06] <Trojaneyez> When doing a discovery my entire CentOS 5 system becomes non responsive. Any Ideas?
[03-Oct-2007 13:19:46] <MoreDakka> If I have a drive that mounts during a backup then unmounts after (on another machine that's different from the zenoss box) and when that machine was modeled zenoss found that drive and is now always looking for it, is there a way to have zenoss stop looking for that drive cause it's generating events that I don't care about.
[03-Oct-2007 13:35:38] <Trojaneyez> How do you model a 7206VXR Cisco Router that is a gateway for an ISP. The routing on it are massive, it's also hosting it's BGP, and I can't get it to model anything larger then a couple thousand user router
[03-Oct-2007 13:42:37] <MoreDakka> Anyone know anything about logrotate?
[03-Oct-2007 13:42:59] <MoreDakka> (sorry Troganeyez, I don't know anything that can help you )
[03-Oct-2007 13:43:10] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka what you need to know about logrotate?
[03-Oct-2007 13:44:32] <MoreDakka> I'm setting up a syslog server and plan on having quite a few machines sending logs to it. I want to have syslog deposit the logs in /var/log/syslog/$CompanyName/$Host . Is there a way to get logrotate to go into each directory under /var/log/syslog and rotate *.log in each dir?
[03-Oct-2007 13:44:54] <MoreDakka> I saw it once a long time ago but wasn't setting this up so I didn't bookmark it :-/
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:16] <Trojaneyez> yeah there is
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:35] <Trojaneyez> i actually just did that a few months ago, let me go look at the machine and see how i did it agai
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:36] <Trojaneyez> again
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:40] <MoreDakka> sweet
[03-Oct-2007 13:50:36] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka You should be able to say /syslog/* and it will rotate all
[03-Oct-2007 13:51:28] <MoreDakka> I was reading through the docs and won't it try to rotate old logs and stuff as well or do you have logrotate move the old logs out into a different dir?
[03-Oct-2007 13:51:58] <Trojaneyez> I moved mine to a different directories
[03-Oct-2007 13:52:13] <MoreDakka> Ah...that's why....maybe I'll just do that. Simplify things ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 13:52:19] <Trojaneyez> yup
[03-Oct-2007 13:52:36] <MoreDakka> thnx ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 13:53:42] <Trojaneyez> np
[03-Oct-2007 13:59:23] <loxs> does this thing do normal inventory scanning on desktop pcs? ie software installed nd hardware installed
[03-Oct-2007 14:00:09] <loxs> cus all i seem to get when im trying to add devices is
[03-Oct-2007 14:00:12] <loxs> WARNING:zen.ZenDisc:no snmp found for ip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx any idea why i get this on 98% of devices in discovery?
[03-Oct-2007 14:00:24] <MoreDakka> If SNMP is enabled on those PCs (or WMI) it "should". I've never done it, but it should work.
[03-Oct-2007 14:02:44] <loxs> hmmm well machines i know for a fact snmp is enabled on its not working
[03-Oct-2007 14:02:48] <loxs> so not sure whats up with it
[03-Oct-2007 14:03:46] <MoreDakka> the community on the pcs is set to public (I think that's Zenoss's default)
[03-Oct-2007 14:05:14] <loxs> how do i change this?
[03-Oct-2007 14:06:48] <MoreDakka> Ehhh, not sure on that one.
[03-Oct-2007 14:07:34] <MoreDakka> are all the pcs on the same community?
[03-Oct-2007 14:07:51] <loxs> nope infact im not sure what community there in
[03-Oct-2007 14:07:56] <loxs> but my servers are all in one
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:01] <loxs> and they dont show either
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:06] <loxs> bah ill have a fidle
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:14] <loxs> all i need is an inventory manager
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:26] <loxs> to kinda act as a cmdb
[03-Oct-2007 14:11:04] <Bulwinkle> loxs: have you gone to the console of the zenoss server and tried a snmpwalk?
[03-Oct-2007 14:16:46] <loxs> snmpwalk -c public -v l localhost ?
[03-Oct-2007 14:18:42] <loxs> should that work
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:04] <MoreDakka> If that's running on the host that has SNMP running with community 'public'.
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:44] <loxs> yeh i keep trying it
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:47] <loxs> but it fails
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:52] <loxs> cus of the -v flag
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:55] <loxs> so i take it out
[03-Oct-2007 14:22:12] <loxs> and get : localhost: Unknown Object Identifier (Sub-id not found: (top) -> localhost)
[03-Oct-2007 14:22:22] <MoreDakka> Is that a one or a L next to -v?
[03-Oct-2007 14:22:58] <MoreDakka> try snmpwalk -cpublic -v1 localhost
[03-Oct-2007 14:23:45] <loxs> 1
[03-Oct-2007 14:23:59] <loxs> ah there we go
[03-Oct-2007 14:24:08] <MoreDakka> that work?
[03-Oct-2007 14:24:12] <loxs> yeh
[03-Oct-2007 14:24:14] <MoreDakka> yay
[03-Oct-2007 14:35:24] <xoritor> ok so when creating the rpm you are defining the user to be added
[03-Oct-2007 14:35:40] <xoritor> could you please use a uid below 500?
[03-Oct-2007 14:35:46] <xoritor> pretty please?
[03-Oct-2007 14:36:12] <xoritor> the uid of 1337 conflicts with "user space" accounts
[03-Oct-2007 14:36:34] <xoritor> i realize its fun, but its not practical
[03-Oct-2007 14:37:36] <kgoedtel> 'users' on a monitoring box..... ?
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:09] <kgoedtel> something sounds wrong with that picture
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:25] <xoritor> not going to be "users" per se
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:29] <kgoedtel> or, looks wrong :]
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:46] <xoritor> its just is not right to have a system account in "user space" ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 14:39:18] <kgoedtel> it could just as easily be conflicting with a system account below 500
[03-Oct-2007 14:39:46] <kgoedtel> probably more easily
[03-Oct-2007 14:40:00] <xoritor> but it is much more standard
[03-Oct-2007 14:43:14] <kgoedtel> well, probably just nitpicking, considering how self contained a zenoss install is it would be trivial to change it to your liking
[03-Oct-2007 15:27:44] <snoozes> Greetings all.
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:08] <mrhinkle> hi snoozes
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:24] <snoozes> Anyone here wrestled with the dreaded "skipping your.server.com has bad wmi state"?
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:35] <snoozes> Used to get this on 2.0.2, now on 2.0.6.
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:47] <snoozes> posted to zenoss-users, but never really got a good resolution.
[03-Oct-2007 15:29:02] <snoozes> What's odd is I am monitoring two windows servers, and things are great on one and not working on the other.
[03-Oct-2007 15:29:14] <snoozes> Can't seem to kick it in the right place to get it working.
[03-Oct-2007 15:31:58] <progma> snoozes: continuing to wrestle with it here, no idea what is going on
[03-Oct-2007 15:32:27] <snoozes> I've used that Windows client to peruse the WMI registry on the server that's giving issues, no problem at all with that.
[03-Oct-2007 15:32:36] <snoozes> so I know wmi is readable
[03-Oct-2007 15:32:44] <snoozes> zenoss just has fits with it for some reason.
[03-Oct-2007 15:33:29] <progma> snoozes: url to that Windows client? the admins here say they can get wmi also..
[03-Oct-2007 15:33:43] <mutil8> i would look into the username/password you're using
[03-Oct-2007 15:34:39] <hotgrits> mutil8: +1
[03-Oct-2007 15:34:41] <snoozes> The uname pwd is fine
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:03] <snoozes> I'm monitoring two servers. One working fine, the other just not working.
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:04] <mutil8> you using a local or domain account?
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:05] <snoozes> finding the url
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:10] <snoozes> local account ".\Administrator"
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:17] <mutil8> try lowercase 'a'
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:31] <snoozes> will try, but as I said, working fine on server A, failing on server B. same config.
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:41] <mutil8> 64 bit or 32 bit?
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:46] <snoozes> 64 bit, both of them
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:08] <mutil8> hmm, i had an issue with either 64 or 32 bit needing the username to be lowercase
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:10] <snoozes> tool is called WMI Explorer - http://www.ks-soft.net/
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:12] <mutil8> can't remember which it was
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:19] <adytum-bot> Title: KS-Soft - Network management software (at www.ks-soft.net)
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:21] <progma> snoozes: thanks!
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:23] <snoozes> yw
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:02] <snoozes> isn't case irrelevant for login names in windows?
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:23] <mutil8> snoozes: yes
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:35] <mutil8> and i only had this problem on 2.0.6
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:40] <mutil8> didn't have the problem in the beta
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:51] <mutil8> im assuming there's some way 2.0.6 was passing it
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:55] <snoozes> Changed to .\administrator, zenwinmodeler is taking up the config
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:13] <mutil8> also did you acknowledge, and move the even to history?
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:28] <mutil8> event
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:32] <snoozes> still getting bad wmi state.
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:54] <snoozes> Curious, what is it about ack'ing the event that matters?
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:57] <progma> is there a sample zeneventlog config i can look at somewhere
[03-Oct-2007 15:39:45] <snoozes> mutil8, seeing only one event in the log: ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[03-Oct-2007 15:39:46] <mutil8> snoozes: you may not NEED to do it, but it seems to clear things up faster, if i have a problem, i'll ack, clear, then re-model to see if it the problem comes back
[03-Oct-2007 15:39:58] <mutil8> thats username/password error
[03-Oct-2007 15:40:02] <snoozes> ok, I've acked, will history it, and remodel.
[03-Oct-2007 15:40:42] <hotgrits> snoozes: try running this from the command line as the zenoss user: 'winexe -U username%password //host "net view"' ... this should show you what's happening with that box
[03-Oct-2007 15:40:55] <snoozes> hotgrits, will try
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:21] <snoozes> hotgrits, getting a spew of servernames, probably other hosts at my hosting provider.
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:25] <xoritor> how can i get 2 distributed zenoss monitors to "share" information?
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:32] <xoritor> buy the enterprise product?
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:34] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 15:44:39] <xoritor> would a shared mysql db help?
[03-Oct-2007 15:49:31] <snoozes> interesting, zenwinmodeler reports that it is collecting from my problem server using .\administrator
[03-Oct-2007 15:50:04] <snoozes> holy cow. I see Win Services.
[03-Oct-2007 15:50:07] <snoozes> wtf
[03-Oct-2007 15:50:38] <snoozes> mutil8, you da man
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:02] <snoozes> but i'll tell you what's odd, the other server that's working is configured as .\Administrator, and it too is 64-bit. so go figure.
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:07] <mutil8> hmmm
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:13] <mutil8> wonder if there's a patch on one that isn't on the other
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:27] <snoozes> there's nothing on these two servers at all except snmp-informant
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:30] <mutil8> i went through and just made them all lowercase, since none have a problem with that
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:38] <snoozes> oh, you meant some OS patch
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:50] <mutil8> yeah
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:54] <snoozes> Could be.
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:17] <snoozes> Seems unlikely tho. They were both stood up at the same time by the same hosting provider, and have supposedly had all the same service packs and updates.
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:31] <mutil8> if it's not your box, don't assume
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:40] <snoozes> It's my dedicated server.
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:42] <snoozes> both are
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:45] <mutil8> who knows what those guys do
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:56] <snoozes> true
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:13] <mutil8> i keep getting snmp agent down on a couple of my boxes, and can't figure that out
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:22] <snoozes> Ok, well color me happy. Things seem to be working.
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:32] <snoozes> I love me some IRC.
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:38] <mutil8> hah
[03-Oct-2007 15:54:53] <snoozes> I'm posting the .\administrator tip to my thread on the forums, and crediting you mutil8. thank you.
[03-Oct-2007 15:56:30] <mutil8> cool, np
[03-Oct-2007 15:58:09] <snoozes> Next question: Is there an easy way to configure things so that zenoss only monitors those windows services that happen to be both Automatic and Running?
[03-Oct-2007 15:58:32] <snoozes> It's modeled a ton of services by default, and is monitoring them all, including quite a few I don't care about.
[03-Oct-2007 15:58:45] <snoozes> Every time I restart zenoss I get a ton of alerts that various services are down.
[03-Oct-2007 15:59:05] <snoozes> I started going through them one by one and setting monitor to false, but it's quite time intensive and manual.
[03-Oct-2007 16:03:09] <mutil8> that i can't help you on, i haven't got that var into it yet
[03-Oct-2007 16:03:59] <incorrect> excuse my idiocy, but what is the default username and pwd?
[03-Oct-2007 16:04:06] <incorrect> passwd even
[03-Oct-2007 16:04:12] <incorrect> i don't need to know my current dir
[03-Oct-2007 16:04:30] <incorrect> oh just guessed it
[03-Oct-2007 16:08:36] <incorrect> is there a getting started guide?
[03-Oct-2007 16:08:55] <progma> admin zenoss
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:06] <progma> oh uh, check the website
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:15] <progma> for install/getting started
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:20] <snoozes> Anyone monitoring windows servers with > 4GB RAM?
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:36] <snoozes> I was hoping to monitor on Committed Bytes...
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:49] <snoozes> snmp-informant isn't returning the right numbers to begin with
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:56] <snoozes> and zenoss is showing the numbers as negative!
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:57] <mutil8> snoozes: i am
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:06] <mutil8> im monitoring 8-32gb of ram
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:09] <snoozes> I actually ponied up for the Advanced version of snmp-informant
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:15] <snoozes> thinking i'd get better 64-bit support
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:27] <mutil8> what release of zenoss?
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:29] <snoozes> mutil8, tried graphing committed bytes yet?
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:31] <snoozes> 2.0.6
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:09] <mutil8> not quite sure how to do that
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:13] <incorrect> will zenoss automatically scan my networks?
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:26] <mutil8> the perf tab shows free memory
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:36] <snoozes> yes, but I think that's free physical memory
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:40] <mutil8> yes it is
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:46] <mutil8> what are you trying to graph?
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:48] <snoozes> I want to get a picture of total memory, phys + virtual
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:51] <snoozes> that's called committed bytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:57] <mutil8> how are you trying to set this up?
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:14] <snoozes> I created a new performance template and am monitoring the OID that returns the committed bytes reading
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:39] <snoozes> So, made a new Data Source and DataPoint for committed bytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:42] <snoozes> and added a new graph
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:57] <snoozes> It's working great on my one box, but the committed bytes never goes above 1.5GB on that server.
[03-Oct-2007 16:13:07] <snoozes> my DB server is another story, committed is at like 7.5GB.
[03-Oct-2007 16:13:23] <snoozes> snmp-informant is returning numbers in the 3.2 range, which is completely wrong
[03-Oct-2007 16:13:34] <snoozes> and for whatever reason, zenoss is showing me negative numbers in my graph.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:00] <snoozes> I am wondering if this is because the datatypes used to store these values are 32-bit and cannot represent a number that needs 64-bits to fully express it.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:25] <snoozes> So in effect, wondering if the 32-bit variables are "wrapping around" or just goofing up my values that are > 4GB.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:32] <snoozes> That's what I suspect anyway.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:34] <progma> incorrect: yes, autodiscovery; google "zendisc"
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:42] <snoozes> There's a different OID that represents % of committed bytes.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:48] <snoozes> So I've also set up a graph to monitor that
[03-Oct-2007 16:15:08] <snoozes> That one's working fine. I'm just disappointed that I can't monitor actual committed bytes.
[03-Oct-2007 16:15:44] <mutil8> hmmm
[03-Oct-2007 16:16:02] <mutil8> let met see if i can figure out how to make a graph and i'll test it it on a couple of my boxes
[03-Oct-2007 16:16:21] <snoozes> Since I purchased snmp-informant-ADV pack, I emailed them for support asking why I'm not getting the right #s back for committed bytes. awaiting their response.
[03-Oct-2007 16:17:24] <snoozes> mutil8: I found the default templates didn't suit my setup, as I have multiple CPUs, so I created my own custom template and now have a separate CPU graph for each individual CPU.
[03-Oct-2007 16:17:32] <snoozes> definitely took a little head banging to figure all that out
[03-Oct-2007 16:17:38] <snoozes> so ping me if you need anything.
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:08] <mutil8> that would be really handy
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:21] <snoozes> If I can figure out how to export this template, I can fwd it...
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:35] <mutil8> my 'smallest' box is a dual xeon 5110 with 8gb of ram
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:40] <snoozes>
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:44] <mutil8> it's be nice to not have everything lumped together
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:16] <mutil8> heh, i don't even know where to get the OID's i would want
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:22] <mutil8> this is my first experience with SNMP
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:23] <snoozes> I've got you covered, one sec.
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:26] <snoozes> me too
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:50] <snoozes> freaking snmp-informant site hides it's urls
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:53] <snoozes> its
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:06] <snoozes> try here: http://www.wtcs.org/informant/adv/overview.htm
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:13] <adytum-bot> Title: SNMP Informant - Advanced Agent (at www.wtcs.org)
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:23] <snoozes> then click the button for Display SNMP Informant-STD OID Tree
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:29] <snoozes> if you're using the free one
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:34] <mutil8> ok cool
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:55] <snoozes> it's a tree, so all your OIDs will start with: 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:58] <snoozes> then add what you need
[03-Oct-2007 16:21:33] <snoozes> you should snmpwalk 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1 to see all your CPUs
[03-Oct-2007 16:22:00] <mutil8> ok, looks like i added one for memoryCommittedBytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:22:08] <mutil8> lets see what graphs
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:08] <snoozes> for kicks, try a snmpwalk or snmpget on 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.4 - that's the committedbytes one.
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:27] <MoreDakka> what's the difference between get and walk?
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:36] <snoozes> walk will traverse the tree and all subnodes
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:41] <snoozes> get grabs a single node
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:49] <MoreDakka> ahhh
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:58] <snoozes> just learned that yesterday
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:02] <MoreDakka> you == snmp master ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:08] <snoozes> hardly
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:21] <mutil8> snmpget -c<communicty> <host> <OID>
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:22] <mutil8> ?
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:40] <snoozes> I have snmpwalk -v1 -cCommunity host oid
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:01] <mutil8> ah, ok
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:07] <mutil8> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.2.4.0 = Gauge32: 3978031104
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:08] <snoozes> FYI, in taskmgr, the committed bytes is Commit Charge Total
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:26] <snoozes> so those two numbers should match up
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:16] <mutil8> wonder if im looking at the wrong OID
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:27] <mutil8> because i've got 8090596 in taskmanager
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:37] <snoozes> On my "big" box, taskmgr shows 8038000K roughly. snmpwalk returns SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.2.4.0 = Gauge32: 3931734016
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:44] <snoozes> so it's wrong.
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:57] <snoozes> You can snmpwalk the whole 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2 tree
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:03] <snoozes> you'll see nothing that looks like 8GB
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:28] <mutil8> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.2.5.0 = Gauge32: 83836928
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:52] <mutil8> memoryCacheBytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:56] <mutil8> that's what it corresponds to
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:00] <snoozes> that's a small number
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:08] <snoozes> like 8MB
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:12] <snoozes> sorry
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:14] <snoozes> 83mb
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:18] <mutil8> true
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:37] <snoozes> yeah, that's cache bytes, not committed mem
[03-Oct-2007 16:29:35] <snoozes> You'll note it says "Gauge32"... so it's trying to represent the true value in 32 bits. The highest number you can represent with 32 bits is 4GB.
[03-Oct-2007 16:30:26] <snoozes> And I get the same results from their paid version.
[03-Oct-2007 16:30:32] <snoozes> frustrating
[03-Oct-2007 16:30:46] <snoozes> And I'm not even sure if zenoss could handle >32bit values anyway.
[03-Oct-2007 16:31:02] <mutil8> wonder if there's a 64bit version of snmp informant
[03-Oct-2007 16:31:07] <snoozes> I bought it.
[03-Oct-2007 16:32:44] <snoozes> Oh, fyi, you can import the "MIB" files into zenoss via the command line. So you can download the v2 MIB from snmp-informant's site and import it with zenmib. However, there's a dependency on some other file. let me find the right syntax.
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:06] <snoozes> After importing, all the names and OIDs will be available to you in your zenoss site under the MIB menu item.
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:10] <mutil8> looks like the free version is 32bit only
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:28] <mutil8> oh cool
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:39] <snoozes> Yes, 32-bit. I bought and am running the 64-bit version. It uses all different OIDs. But I'm still getting committedbytes returned to me as Gauge32.
[03-Oct-2007 16:34:48] <mutil8> did you happen to notice when you installed if it detected that it was 64 bit?
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:20] <snoozes> It installed into C:\Program Files, and not Program Files (x86), so I think so.
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:27] <mutil8> ah yeah, should have then
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:30] <snoozes> Here are the commands to import those mibs (and download the txt files with wget)...
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:35] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:37] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/INFORMANT
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:43] <snoozes> sorry
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:46] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/INFORMANT-ADV.MIB.TX
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:49] <snoozes> and
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:50] <snoozes> zenmib run WTCS.MIB.TXT INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:57] <snoozes> you'll want to run that as the zenoss user
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:18] <snoozes> So the INFORMANT-STB.MIB.TXT is dependent on the WTCS file, so you load WTCS first, then the other.
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:54] <snoozes> Here are the commands again, clean:
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:55] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:55] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/INFORMANT-ADV.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:55] <snoozes> zenmib run WTCS.MIB.TXT INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:06] <snoozes> (for posterity)
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:31] <mutil8> failed to import
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:37] <mutil8> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:37] <mutil8> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: INFORMANT-ADV.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:43] <snoozes> did the file successfully download?
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:47] <mutil8> yep
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:57] <snoozes> check your filenames
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:11] <snoozes> oh
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:11] <snoozes> sorry
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:14] <snoozes> geez I goofed it
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:21] <mutil8> rename to .MIB?
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:21] <snoozes> I had you download the ADV version
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:24] <snoozes> one sec
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:48] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:48] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/STD/SMIv2/INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:48] <snoozes> zenmib run WTCS.MIB.TXT INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:08] <snoozes> ADV is the $$$ version.
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:38] <mutil8> heh, nope
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:40] <mutil8> same error
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:52] <mutil8> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:40:16] <snoozes> checked the link, it's good
[03-Oct-2007 16:40:27] <mutil8> it downloaded them, just doesn't want to import
[03-Oct-2007 16:40:42] <snoozes> lemme check my command history again
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:10] <snoozes> check file perms on those txt files?
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:11] <snoozes> readable?
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:15] <kgoedtel> so apparently you can't have dots in your data source if you plan to graph it, rrd can't parse it
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:36] <mutil8> yeah, they're readable
[03-Oct-2007 16:42:07] <snoozes> maybe use tab-completion to make sure the filenames are right. type "zenmib run" then WT<tab> and see what you get, then do the same with INFOR*
[03-Oct-2007 16:42:39] <snoozes> can you cat the WTCS file?
[03-Oct-2007 16:42:44] <snoozes> is the stuff really in there?
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:07] <mutil8> yeah, it's there, and i used tab to complete the name
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:17] <mutil8> cat works fine on it
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:40] <snoozes> You're running as the zenoss user?
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:43] <mutil8> yes
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:48] <snoozes> hmm, not sure what's up.
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:52] <snoozes> worked first time for me.
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:10] <mutil8> don't know
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:16] <mutil8> i'll deal with it later i guess
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:26] <snoozes> yeah, no great benefit to having them imported that I've discovered yet.
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:36] <snoozes> just another reference
[03-Oct-2007 16:49:57] <mutil8> chances are i'll only need a handful of them anyways, and can just add them as i need them
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:35] <snoozes> snoozes, I figured out how to make a ZenPack of my multicore performance template. It's got the snmp-informant-ADV OIDs, but you could just replace them with STD ones.
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:36] <snoozes> want it?
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:43] <snoozes> mutil8 I mean
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:48] <snoozes> geez, i'm talking to myself here.
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:52] <mutil8> yeah, that'd be great
[03-Oct-2007 16:57:50] <mutil8> im here, just workin
[03-Oct-2007 16:58:22] <snoozes> tried private msging you...
[03-Oct-2007 16:58:25] <snoozes> didn't work?
[03-Oct-2007 16:59:42] <mutil8> nope
[03-Oct-2007 17:00:01] <snoozes> weird.
[03-Oct-2007 17:01:21] <snoozes> try to private message me
[03-Oct-2007 17:02:20] * snoozes scratches his head...
[03-Oct-2007 17:03:47] <snoozes> Got a junk email addr you don't mind posting here?
[03-Oct-2007 17:08:04] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:28] <mutil8> you get that?
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:33] <mutil8> (just sent it)
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:42] <snoozes> yes
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:51] <mutil8> you respond?
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:55] <snoozes> i did
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:57] <snoozes> am doing
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:02] <snoozes> must not be working right... weird
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:03] <mutil8> hmm, didn't get it, strange
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:09] <mutil8> you must not be identivied on the server
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:23] <mutil8> just gave you my email
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:25] <snoozes> k
[03-Oct-2007 17:14:28] <snoozes> sent
[03-Oct-2007 17:14:39] <mutil8> great
[03-Oct-2007 17:15:25] <snoozes> see page 167 of the pdf manual for importing a zenpack
[03-Oct-2007 17:15:34] <snoozes> 22.2 i think should work.
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:09] <mutil8> ok
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:38] <mutil8> btw, i get negative numbers on that commit graph as well
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:45] <snoozes> Yep
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:47] <snoozes> lame
[03-Oct-2007 17:20:19] <mutil8> -329.62G
[03-Oct-2007 17:20:23] <mutil8> now that's efficient
[03-Oct-2007 17:21:53] <mutil8> wish i knew why i get snmp agent down on 2 of my servers
[03-Oct-2007 17:25:48] <mutil8> btw, still haven't got that email
[03-Oct-2007 17:26:39] <mutil8> wonder if it got snagged by the spam filter
[03-Oct-2007 17:28:06] <mutil8> man, 54.5% of our email is spam
[03-Oct-2007 17:29:00] <MoreDakka> snmp master, how do I get snmpwalk to show me the text value of an OID (So I know what it is)?
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:02] <mutil8> doesn't snmpwalk do that by the nature of what it does?
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:10] <mutil8> start with the top most OID, and it shows you everything under it
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:21] <mutil8> typically gives a description
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:23] <mutil8> if that's what you mean
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:52] <mutil8> hmmm, guess it doesn't
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:10] <mutil8> http://www.wtcs.org/informant/adv/overview.htm
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:17] <adytum-bot> Title: SNMP Informant - Advanced Agent (at www.wtcs.org)
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:29] <mutil8> choose 'display snmp informat-STD OID Tree'
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:34] <mutil8> you get some descriptions there
[03-Oct-2007 17:44:45] bkingx__ is now known as bkingx
[03-Oct-2007 17:56:39] <MoreDakka> This device doesn't have the Informant on it.
[03-Oct-2007 17:58:00] <mutil8> http://www.mibdepot.com/cgi-bin/xsearch_index3.cgi?id=105746
[03-Oct-2007 17:58:07] <mutil8> you may find what you're looking for there
[03-Oct-2007 17:58:17] <adytum-bot> Title: mibDepot.com - Search Page (at www.mibdepot.com)
[03-Oct-2007 18:03:53] <Trojaneyez> I keep getting this on discovery for the device and it seems to go forever "INFO:zen.Device:WARNING:zen.IpRouteEntry:interface index:0 not found"
[03-Oct-2007 18:06:46] <MoreDakka> What version are you running?
[03-Oct-2007 18:07:07] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka Beta
[03-Oct-2007 18:07:17] <MoreDakka> v2.0.91?
[03-Oct-2007 18:07:31] <Trojaneyez> yes
[03-Oct-2007 18:08:37] <MoreDakka> "2007-10-03 12:07:23 INFO zen.Device WARNING:zen.IpRouteEntry:interface index:0 not found"
[03-Oct-2007 18:08:52] <MoreDakka> I get that about 8 times when I try to model my cisco 871
[03-Oct-2007 18:08:59] <MoreDakka> cluther says it's a bug.
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:13] <MoreDakka> well maybe not in so many words..
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:23] <MoreDakka> I sent him some logs and he didn't know why it was doing it.
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:27] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka I'm trying on a 7206VXR Cisco Router and it seems nonstop
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:39] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka Anways around that as of yet that youknow of ?
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:01] <MoreDakka> Is there lots of routes on that 7206VXR router?
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:15] <MoreDakka> Might be a problem with zenoss not liking ciscos or something
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:18] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka yes tons, it is hosting a BGP
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:39] <MoreDakka> Ah, that's probably why it goes on forever. Bet there is one of those warnings for each route
[03-Oct-2007 18:11:24] <MoreDakka> v2.0.90 didn't have that problem.
[03-Oct-2007 18:11:30] <MoreDakka> but v2.0.91 does
[03-Oct-2007 18:11:48] <MoreDakka> Least I don't think it did...
[03-Oct-2007 18:12:06] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka ok thank you
[03-Oct-2007 18:15:51] <xoritor> does the "monitor" have to be set to localhost?
[03-Oct-2007 18:16:48] <MoreDakka> yes. Unless you have a remote monitor (which I don't know how to setup).
[03-Oct-2007 18:16:53] <xoritor> hmmm
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:12] <xoritor> so you can not give it the fqdn and then make that your "monitor"
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:13] <xoritor> ?
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:46] <xoritor> i just dont want to confuse my users that look and see "localhost" as the name of the monitor
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:58] <xoritor> and they think they are monitoring themselves
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:16] <xoritor> dont ask.... yes yes they do think that
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:19] <MoreDakka> I'm not sure if you can rename it or not.
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:37] <MoreDakka> I've tried to create other monitors and zenoss doesn't monitor the devices that are under them.
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:57] <xoritor> well i tried renaming localhost and setting its ip to the external ip
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:08] <snoozes> mutil8, get the email?
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:13] <xoritor> then stuff seems to break
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:15] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:17] <MoreDakka> hah
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:38] <MoreDakka> yeah, I thought something was being monitored when I created a new monitor...then it went down and no one knew...my boss wasn't really happy./
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:01] <xoritor> i have a couple of places to monitor so i have 2 zenoss installs
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:08] <xoritor> one for here one for there
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:33] <MoreDakka> So you have remote monitors setup? Does it work good?
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:36] <xoritor> i would love to tell them to "share" but that looks like it is the enterprise prduct
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:39] <xoritor> no
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:45] <xoritor> they are 2 seperate setups
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:50] <xoritor> they do not share anything
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:54] <xoritor> :-(
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:56] <MoreDakka> well that's gay
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:58] <xoritor> suck
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:59] <xoritor> yea
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:04] <xoritor> and i cant get them to
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:14] <xoritor> i did create a monitor for each one
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:25] <xoritor> but they dont "talk" to each other
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:34] <MoreDakka> It should be one box inside a companies network that sends information to the main zenoss box.
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:39] <xoritor> heck i even opened the firewalls fully to their ips
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:11] <xoritor> yea
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:19] <xoritor> i agree
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:21] <xoritor> thats waht i want
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:36] <MoreDakka> Did you follow a walkthrough?
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:40] <xoritor> no
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:50] <xoritor> didnt find one
[03-Oct-2007 18:23:11] <xoritor> brb gotta get some coffee
[03-Oct-2007 18:30:24] <Trojaneyez> If the Router i'm trying to Model is using BGP so hold millions of routes, and I want it to ignore a majority of them how can i do this?
[03-Oct-2007 18:43:31] <dschrock> Trojaneyez : i had that same problem. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell it to ignore some routes, but not others.
[03-Oct-2007 18:43:49] <MoreDakka> I'm hoping someone can point me to some documentation for setting up remote monitors....
[03-Oct-2007 18:43:50] <dschrock> for the time being, i added a snmp view to the router
[03-Oct-2007 18:44:01] <dschrock> snmp-server view ZENOSS-ROUTES internet included
[03-Oct-2007 18:44:01] <dschrock> snmp-server view ZENOSS-ROUTES system included
[03-Oct-2007 18:44:01] <dschrock> snmp-server view ZENOSS-ROUTES ipRouteEntry excluded
[03-Oct-2007 18:45:35] <kgoedtel> i really wish that there was a way to see how routes are being broken down in zenoss for device dependencies
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:21] <kgoedtel> because right now if a vpn goes down for me, zenoss alerts for every device connected through the vpn
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:21] <dschrock> agreed... filtering by protocol would be nice... collect routes that are not learned via BGP
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:30] <dschrock> yep
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:43] <kgoedtel> and i dont know if it is possible to fix that
[03-Oct-2007 18:47:00] <kgoedtel> but getting dozens of alerts for a single failure sucks :]
[03-Oct-2007 18:47:53] <dschrock> from what i've found so far, this more of a router limitation, as the snmp routing table is ordered by address, not protocol, so it would need to collect the table, before it could filter out...
[03-Oct-2007 18:48:34] <dschrock> leads us back to square one... 200K+ bgp routes + zenoss = no routing table for those routers
[03-Oct-2007 18:49:59] <dschrock> you can limit the collection to local connected routes in the zProperties, but it is unclear how smart it will be intrying to determine dependancies based on a connected routing table
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:18] <MoreDakka> A quick cron question. If I set something to run * 2 * * * it will run every minutes at 2am until 3am right?
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:54] <kgoedtel> until 3am?
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:55] <dschrock> MoreDakka, no it will run at 2 am
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:59] <kgoedtel> yah
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:16] <kgoedtel> 0200 on the minute
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:27] <snoozes> every minute starting at 2:00 until 2:59 i'd say
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:37] <dschrock> or shortly after if there is contention... rarely happens though
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:57] <kgoedtel> ah yes nm
[03-Oct-2007 18:53:35] <dschrock> hrmm...that is a tough one... to run ever 5 minutes, you can use */5 but i'm not sure how to limit it to a specific timeframe, without daemonizing it...
[03-Oct-2007 18:54:06] <dschrock> use cron to launch an app at 2 that will shut itself down at 3
[03-Oct-2007 18:56:07] <MoreDakka> Well I was trying to get it to run at just 2am but the script kept running every minute until 2:59am. haha...what a mess that caused. So now I've got it 0 2 * * * and hopefully that will work
[03-Oct-2007 18:56:20] <kgoedtel> yah
[03-Oct-2007 19:01:47] <MoreDakka> Is there any documentation that shows how to create a remote monitor?
[03-Oct-2007 19:04:53] <dschrock> there used to be for the 1.x series, nothing yet for 2.x series... i know you need to edit some of the config files to tell the install that localhost is not monitor, but i don't recall which files need this... also, some of the components don't need to run on the remote monitor.
[03-Oct-2007 19:05:23] <dschrock> zenhub is the key component...
[03-Oct-2007 19:05:24] <MoreDakka> Maybe they are making it easier for 2.x ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 19:06:33] <dschrock> hopefully... that is one of the key reasons we are using zenoss
[03-Oct-2007 19:08:57] <xoritor> ok
[03-Oct-2007 19:09:04] <xoritor> so i have this error showing up
[03-Oct-2007 19:09:06] <xoritor> IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry '7f00000135ddd4cfffffffe' for key 1"
[03-Oct-2007 19:10:05] <xoritor> and everything is getting the error "Unable to connect to zenhub:"
[03-Oct-2007 19:10:25] <xoritor> and i look at the status of the daemons and most of them are stopped
[03-Oct-2007 19:16:26] <dschrock> zoritor: anything of intrest in the logs?
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:13] <MoreDakka> i'm going to guess that for the stopped deamons there are no logs.
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:23] <xoritor> not really
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:26] <xoritor> there are logs
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:56] <MoreDakka> I ran into that issue when I had 4 deamons that were stopped on a fresh install. I gave up with CentOS4 and went to 5...had no problems installing on CentOS 5.
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:19] <xoritor> i have one that has no issues
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:27] <xoritor> and one that has tons of issues
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:31] <MoreDakka> haha
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:32] <xoritor> they are buillt exactly the same
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:39] <xoritor> both centos 5
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:45] <xoritor> both using the same kickstart
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:48] <MoreDakka> evil twin
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:52] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:09] <kgoedtel> the only time i have had issues is after/during a migration
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:14] <imperfect-> an I get zenoss to make pretty graphs of my network?
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:23] <imperfect-> With lines showing connevitivy and "up/downess"
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:32] <imperfect-> Like it does in the screenshots with servers, only with routers
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:34] <imperfect-> er swtiches
[03-Oct-2007 19:28:10] <kgoedtel> custom templates :]
[03-Oct-2007 19:28:40] <kgoedtel> read mibs, make templates, make graphs, look at pretty pictures
[03-Oct-2007 19:29:30] <Trojaneyez> is Compiling MIBS always such a pain in the ass?
[03-Oct-2007 19:31:57] <mutil8> i still haven't been able to import any MIBS
[03-Oct-2007 19:32:26] <kgoedtel> unless you are doing traps, not much point in importing mibs
[03-Oct-2007 19:33:12] <snoozes> mutil8 - get email?
[03-Oct-2007 19:33:43] <dschrock> the commandline is much easier for importing mibs... you can bulk them up and import a bunch at once... especially nice, since they usually have dependancies
[03-Oct-2007 19:34:33] <imperfect-> http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1024
[03-Oct-2007 19:34:39] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin (at internetworkpro.org)
[03-Oct-2007 19:34:57] <kgoedtel> i still need to learn how to make custom mibs/oids... since exec and extend only produce unusable strings
[03-Oct-2007 19:40:36] <mutil8> snoozes: nope
[03-Oct-2007 19:42:55] <mutil8> i also have 1 machine that keeps giving me an snmp agent down
[03-Oct-2007 19:50:56] <Trojaneyez> why can't i see the zenoss database/
[03-Oct-2007 19:53:29] <progma> Trojaneyez: in mysql? should be events
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:18] <mutil8> snoozes: i got em now, they were held up in the spam filter, they just game through
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:29] <snoozes> great
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:32] <mutil8> thanks
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:36] <snoozes> yw
[03-Oct-2007 19:59:43] <mutil8> won't get to try it out until later, these people expect me to 'work' here
[03-Oct-2007 19:59:45] <mutil8> pffft
[03-Oct-2007 20:00:54] <mutil8> i get a 404 on that url though
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:03] <snoozes> geez
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:19] <snoozes> one of the emails had the attachment
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:24] <snoozes> didn't get that one?
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:39] <snoozes> I'll send it as .txt, change it to zip
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:49] <mutil8> i got the attachment
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:56] <mutil8> one had a URL in it as well, thought it was important
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:58] <snoozes> ok, then you don't need the link
[03-Oct-2007 20:02:01] <mutil8> ah, ok
[03-Oct-2007 20:02:38] <mutil8> you have any machines that give you an snmp agent down on device notification?
[03-Oct-2007 20:03:41] <snoozes> No, I'm monitoring only 2 machines right now, they're both up.
[03-Oct-2007 20:04:15] <mutil8> the box is up, but this one keeps giving me the snmp agent error
[03-Oct-2007 20:05:13] <snoozes> Tried restarting the snmp service on the box?
[03-Oct-2007 20:06:13] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:09] <mutil8> yep
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:14] <mutil8> gonna restart the box itsel
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:16] <mutil8> itself
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:19] <mutil8> there's nothing on it yet
[03-Oct-2007 20:11:22] <progma> anyone monitoring vista with zenoss
[03-Oct-2007 20:11:55] <Trojaneyez> should be shot for using Vista >< sorry just had to say that
[03-Oct-2007 20:12:58] <progma> iawtc
[03-Oct-2007 20:13:04] <progma> but business is business
[03-Oct-2007 20:13:32] <Trojaneyez> progma should be all the same in regards to monitoring
[03-Oct-2007 20:15:43] <progma> snmpinformant, wmi etc ok
[03-Oct-2007 20:21:17] <progma> you can shoot now ;
[03-Oct-2007 20:27:09] <mutil8> hmmm wonder how freaked out vista gets with wmi calls
[03-Oct-2007 20:31:20] <xoritor> well i got sick of hunting down the issues and removed zenoss and reinstalled that server
[03-Oct-2007 20:31:36] <xoritor> maybe just maybe... this will fix some of the issues ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 20:35:04] <mutil8> hmmm, reboot seemed to have fixed my snmp agent down notifications
[03-Oct-2007 20:35:08] <mutil8> what issues were you having?
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:00] <xoritor> im having TONS of issues with a host that is identical to the host that is have zero issues
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:10] <xoritor> i built them both with the same kickstart file
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:15] <xoritor> same distro
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:18] <xoritor> same updates
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:32] <xoritor> same configs
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:38] <xoritor> diff ips and diff names
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:42] <xoritor> all in dns
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:57] <xoritor> daemons start and die
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:03] <xoritor> for no reason
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:36] <xoritor> 2007-10-03 12:37:47 ERROR zen.Events: (1062, "Duplicate entry '7f00000135dde574ffffffe' for key 1")
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:45] <xoritor> and i JUST installed that
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:50] <xoritor> re-installed
[03-Oct-2007 20:38:00] <xoritor> sigh
[03-Oct-2007 20:38:27] <kgoedtel> did you wipe your events db?
[03-Oct-2007 20:39:57] <xoritor> i dont remember... i wiped it this time though ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 20:40:11] <xoritor> i have on several occasions wiped it clean by hand though
[03-Oct-2007 20:40:29] <xoritor> DELETE FROM logs;
[03-Oct-2007 20:40:35] <xoritor> etc...
[03-Oct-2007 20:41:23] <xoritor> but this time i wiped EVERYTHING clean and (i am positive this time) and started over
[03-Oct-2007 20:42:00] <xoritor> rpm -e zenoss && rm -rf /opt/zenoss && rm -rf /home/zenoss && mysqladmin -u root -p drop events
[03-Oct-2007 20:42:11] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 20:42:57] <xoritor> i should not say this local one is perfect... it has some issues, but i think i caused those so i don't mention them
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:11] * xoritor NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER causes issues ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:13] <xoritor> hehehe
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:19] <xoritor> never ever
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:37] * xoritor looks around for someTHING to blame
[03-Oct-2007 20:44:13] <progma> canada maybe?
[03-Oct-2007 20:45:23] <xoritor> im thinking to blame whiteboard cleaner
[03-Oct-2007 20:45:35] <xoritor> that looks like something that would cause an issue
[03-Oct-2007 20:48:10] dschrock is now known as dschrockOut
[03-Oct-2007 21:02:39] <mutil8> everybody pretty much running on redhat/centos?
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:07] <xoritor> for me... yea
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:20] <xoritor> thats all i use other than fedora in a few places
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:31] <xoritor> well
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:35] <xoritor> not true really
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:42] <xoritor> i have some machines still running debian
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:55] <xoritor> and a few freebsd and windows
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:10] <xoritor> but the zenoss stuff all runs on centos
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:22] <mutil8> you monitoring any of those debian boxes with zenoss?
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:32] <mutil8> i'm a debian/windows shop
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:58] <mutil8> performance graphs don't seem to be working on the debian boxes im trying to monitor
[03-Oct-2007 21:07:44] <xoritor> not yet ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 21:08:02] <xoritor> just trying to get these things working 100% before i commit them to doing everything
[03-Oct-2007 21:08:19] <xoritor> i have found that debian does not play well with most other things
[03-Oct-2007 21:09:19] <xoritor> check what snmpd your running and make sure its configured correctly
[03-Oct-2007 21:09:43] <xoritor> and that there are no hosts.{allow,deny} rules blocking it
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:02] <xoritor> also check iptables rules for the right proto/port allowed in for that ip
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:14] <xoritor> udp 161 usually
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:38] <mutil8> i can get some information, just not everything i want
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:43] <mutil8> just needs some tweaking
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:04] <xoritor> aaah
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:23] <xoritor> i will bet your snmpd.conf is limiting the OIDs that you can get
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:35] <xoritor> or you dont have all the mibs loaded
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:55] <xoritor> make sure the snmpd user account has read access to those files
[03-Oct-2007 21:12:01] <xoritor> and that they are in the right directory
[03-Oct-2007 21:21:21] <mutil8> nobody thinks the linux boxes are important, so i'll get the windows machines working first
[03-Oct-2007 21:22:08] <mutil8> who needs phones or backups, or spam filtering, or a firewall, as long as they exchange
[03-Oct-2007 21:22:19] <mutil8> ^have
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:18] <xoritor> LOL
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:18] <kgoedtel> a new manager here who is more worried about getting microsoft exchange and email address syntax and signatures than the linux/solaris machines :[ makes me cry
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:32] <xoritor> that sucks
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:41] <xoritor> thankfully we are just the opposite
[03-Oct-2007 21:24:01] <xoritor> all our stuff is *nix based with a few windows machines for "flavor" ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 21:24:05] <kgoedtel> thats what happens when you hire a microsoft goon!
[03-Oct-2007 21:24:08] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:02] <xoritor> well the total wipe and redo seems to have fixed any issues i was having
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:04] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:13] <xoritor> we shall see how it runs overnight ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:36] <kgoedtel> whenever i have serious problems i blitz the events db and re-source the included schema
[03-Oct-2007 21:26:02] <kgoedtel> unless you want to check out old historical events
[03-Oct-2007 21:26:07] <kgoedtel> then not such a good idea
[03-Oct-2007 21:27:08] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:27:30] <xoritor> how often is that?
[03-Oct-2007 21:27:50] <xoritor> cause if i have to do that very often i will find another solution
[03-Oct-2007 21:28:43] <xoritor> doing that very often makes is another problem and not a solution
[03-Oct-2007 21:28:44] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:29:15] <kgoedtel> has only happened to me when upgrading or downgrading major revisions
[03-Oct-2007 21:29:23] <kgoedtel> like 1.9 to 2.0 and 2.0 to 2.1
[03-Oct-2007 21:29:56] <mutil8> according to our CEO email is the most important thing to the company
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:17] <mutil8> which is why our exchange cluster is on better hardware than our db cluster
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:22] <kgoedtel> oh god
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:25] <kgoedtel>
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:48] <mutil8> we have about a 20k dollar exchange setup for 40ish people
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:02] <mutil8> go go CEO
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:26] <kgoedtel> wow
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:29] <kgoedtel> serious waste
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:42] <mutil8> yep
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:50] <mutil8> because "email can't go down"
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:52] <xoritor> aah
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:00] <mutil8> best part is.... we only have 1 internet connection
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:05] <mutil8> so.... email CAN go down
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:09] <xoritor> WoW
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:18] <xoritor> man
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:21] <xoritor> thats nutz
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:25] <mutil8> they didn't see the need for multiple connections from different providers
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:35] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:45] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:47] <mutil8> we're moving it all to a colo this month, so i only have about 30 days left of hoping some idiot doesn't hit a telephone pole
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:52] <kgoedtel> did anyone point out the already inherent single point of failure? :[
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:57] <mutil8> i did
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:59] <mutil8> multiple times
[03-Oct-2007 21:33:01] <mutil8> and in writing
[03-Oct-2007 21:33:14] <mutil8> so when it goes down, i (hopefully) won't get fired
[03-Oct-2007 21:36:01] <kgoedtel> maybe one day you can make it 'accidentally' go down to see some fun fireworks
[03-Oct-2007 21:37:03] <mutil8> not worth the headache
[03-Oct-2007 21:37:09] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:23] <kgoedtel> i am just hoping that the mentality shifts in IT away from the firefighting and back to actual innovation
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:32] <mutil8> god that would be nice
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:43] <mutil8> won't happen here
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:45] <mutil8> but it would be nice
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:08] <mutil8> we're installing a reporting system that's built off sql 2000, won't run in sql 2005, and won't run on a 64-bit platform
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:12] <mutil8> how's that for innovation
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:15] <mutil8> oh yeah
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:17] <mutil8> you can't cluster it
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:55] <mutil8> and it's another 'can never go down or else' thing
[03-Oct-2007 21:42:43] <kgoedtel> thats pretty much the problem here
[03-Oct-2007 21:42:53] <kgoedtel> we need a db solution that will cluster well
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:03] <kgoedtel> we have run into a serious bottleneck
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:03] <xoritor> later
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:11] <mutil8> you a mssql shop?
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:16] <kgoedtel> unidata
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:20] <kgoedtel> and mysql
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:38] <kgoedtel> we have only a handful of mssql
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:59] <mutil8> never heard of unidata, and i've never tried to cluster mysql
[03-Oct-2007 21:44:05] <kgoedtel> we tried mysql ndb cluster but it failed miserably
[03-Oct-2007 21:44:16] <mutil8> mssql 2005 seems to cluster somewhat well
[03-Oct-2007 21:44:21] <kgoedtel> the resource requirements are extremely steep
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:13] <kgoedtel> unidata is an ibm database product, i personally wouldnt recommend it :]
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:27] <mutil8> so it's derived from db2?
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:39] <kgoedtel> no, i dont think so
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:55] <mutil8> i thought db2 was the IBM database platform
[03-Oct-2007 21:46:02] <kgoedtel> it is
[03-Oct-2007 21:46:41] <mutil8> ah, unidata is an embeded app
[03-Oct-2007 21:47:01] <kgoedtel> it pretty much sucks as far as i am concerned
[03-Oct-2007 21:47:04] <mutil8> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:47:48] <kgoedtel> you can code in it and stuff
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:04] <kgoedtel> i can read the code, but happy im not a programmer
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:19] <mutil8> must be what they use to run their website
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:23] <mutil8> since it's not working either
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:27] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:51] <mutil8> all i want is a price on a DS3000 expansion module
[03-Oct-2007 21:50:10] <kgoedtel> we have a handful of netapp s500s
[03-Oct-2007 21:56:42] <mutil8> hahah
[03-Oct-2007 21:56:43] <mutil8> woopsy
[03-Oct-2007 21:56:48] <mutil8> somebody knocked over the water cooler
[03-Oct-2007 21:57:25] <kgoedtel> last place i worked, someone dropped a full water jug, and it crack/split open when it hit the floor
[03-Oct-2007 21:57:59] <mutil8> yeah, that just happened here when they knocked it over
[03-Oct-2007 21:58:04] <mutil8> it was pretty much full
[03-Oct-2007 21:58:04] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:58:06] <kgoedtel> nice
[03-Oct-2007 22:01:29] <mutil8> man our CFO is gonna stroke out when he see's my purchase request
[03-Oct-2007 22:38:18] <progma> where's the pid file for zeneventlog
[03-Oct-2007 22:38:29] <progma> or any of the zenoss process id files for that matter
[03-Oct-2007 22:40:10] <mutil8> anybody happen to be running windows 2003 web edition?
[03-Oct-2007 22:40:46] <mutil8> /usr/local/zenoss/var
[03-Oct-2007 22:40:56] <mutil8> atleast for me
[03-Oct-2007 22:41:02] <mutil8> thats on a debian box
[03-Oct-2007 22:41:19] <mutil8> $ZENHOME/var/ is probably a better answer
[03-Oct-2007 22:42:06] <progma> mutil8: thanks!
[03-Oct-2007 22:42:42] <mutil8> np
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[04-Oct-2007 02:44:30] <Dan000892> good evening all!
[04-Oct-2007 02:45:41] <Dan000892> can anyone point me to some documentation defining/explaining the collector plugins?
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[04-Oct-2007 08:40:55] <Robbadub> hi
[04-Oct-2007 08:41:16] <Robbadub> I have trouble clearing the evntshistory
[04-Oct-2007 08:42:09] <Robbadub> The MySQL procedure with call clean_history(1) has an error with the total number of locks exceeds the lock table size
[04-Oct-2007 08:42:44] <Robbadub> I'm no DBA, system is short on diskspace, which is why I need to flush the history tabel
[04-Oct-2007 08:52:26] <Robbadub> Truncate table history does the trick
[04-Oct-2007 09:53:28] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[04-Oct-2007 09:54:00] <xinity_mbp> does anybody knows if an arbitrary custom command can be executed on alert ?
[04-Oct-2007 09:54:26] <xinity_mbp> i mean a event occur , it send an alert and then execute a custom command
[04-Oct-2007 09:54:35] <xinity_mbp> does anyone knows if it's possible ?
[04-Oct-2007 11:13:31] <imperfect-> Howdy
[04-Oct-2007 11:13:43] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I can turn off mail notifcation when I've moved events to history?
[04-Oct-2007 11:44:29] <Robbadub> Xinity: For commands to be executed you need to logon to the box you want to manage
[04-Oct-2007 11:44:44] <Robbadub> So first nake shure that you have credentials.
[04-Oct-2007 12:50:35] <Bulwinkle> mmmmmmm... hotgrits ... yummy
[04-Oct-2007 12:53:23] <Bulwinkle> even better hotgrits and fishstickz.... now that sounds like dinner
[04-Oct-2007 13:07:53] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[04-Oct-2007 13:09:10] <incorrect> is it possible monitor a service, like mysql in zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 13:11:54] <progma> incorrect: yup
[04-Oct-2007 13:14:01] <incorrect> what should i look at to configure that?
[04-Oct-2007 13:25:59] <progma> incorrect: is the device the mysql server is running on already in zenoss' device list?
[04-Oct-2007 13:27:16] <incorrect> no, it would be a remote tcp connection
[04-Oct-2007 13:27:43] <progma> incorrect: i mean, have you discovered or manually added the remote mysql server itself to the device list
[04-Oct-2007 13:27:57] <incorrect> if i was using nagios, i would write a script, something like mysql -e "show slave status" do something with the results and return 012
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:08] <progma> because zenoss should automagically populate the OS portion of the device entry with a process list
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:08] <incorrect> it was discovered
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:15] <incorrect> interesting
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:21] <incorrect> i will investigate
[04-Oct-2007 14:01:48] dschrockOut is now known as dschrock
[04-Oct-2007 14:19:50] <incorrect> i deleted a device and rescanned the network, however it didn't pick up it was running mysql
[04-Oct-2007 14:20:26] <dschrock> is mysql listening on that interface?
[04-Oct-2007 14:20:41] <dschrock> and does it allow connections?
[04-Oct-2007 14:33:51] <incorrect> will zenoss talk sql to mysql?
[04-Oct-2007 14:34:08] <incorrect> right now you can see 3306 listening
[04-Oct-2007 14:34:13] <incorrect> from the zenoss box
[04-Oct-2007 14:34:33] <MoreDakka> I love that name "incorrect"...I'm always reading your statements and questions as incorrect...haha
[04-Oct-2007 14:36:25] <incorrect>
[04-Oct-2007 14:36:29] <incorrect> i love confusing people
[04-Oct-2007 14:37:14] <incorrect> strange, on my local machine, if i snmpwalk i get over 3500 lines returned, if i walk a remote box i only get 2500
[04-Oct-2007 14:42:20] <dschrock> that doesn't mean much.. the local system and remote system are different, so the response will be different
[04-Oct-2007 14:42:41] <MoreDakka> What's the Nagios plugin that I can use to monitor PL?
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:03] <xoritor> good morning everyone
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:38] <xoritor> has anyone setup multiple zenoss monitors and gotten them to share information with each other?
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:47] <xoritor> ie.. distributed monitoring
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:58] <xoritor> are there any docs on how to do that?
[04-Oct-2007 15:08:27] <xoritor> is there anyway to get the network map flash thingy to show an entire /16 with multiple networks and the routing between them?
[04-Oct-2007 15:10:12] <Bulwinkle> xoritor: my standard answer to anyone asking for docs is no.... the documentation for zenoss is completely non-existant
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:05] <xoritor> LOL
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:09] <xoritor> that figures
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:10] <xoritor> ;-)
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:23] <xoritor> im re-reading the pdf in case there is something i missed
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:51] <dschrock> check the forums... there are a few posts about it
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:10] <dschrock> none are complete, but you may be able to stitch everything together and make it work
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:19] <xoritor> hehe
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:22] <xoritor> k
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:26] <xoritor> ill check there
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:33] <xoritor> didnt find much though
[04-Oct-2007 15:13:28] <dschrock> if you get it working and want to doc it, it would be appreciated. (i need that functionality as well, but don't have 2 boxes to do it with yet)
[04-Oct-2007 15:19:08] <xoritor> ill see what i can do
[04-Oct-2007 15:19:15] <xoritor> no promises though ;-)
[04-Oct-2007 15:40:41] <progma> if i want to run the zen daemons via shell, i.e. /opt/zenoss/bin/zeneventlog start|stop
[04-Oct-2007 15:40:55] <progma> what user should i do this as, or should it make any diff
[04-Oct-2007 15:44:19] <xoritor> progma: the user should be zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 15:45:46] <xoritor> progma: i usually do this "sudo su - zenoss"
[04-Oct-2007 15:46:01] <xoritor> before i run any commands like that
[04-Oct-2007 15:46:19] <xoritor> but you could do it just via sudo if your /etc/sudoers is setup right
[04-Oct-2007 15:46:56] <xoritor> ie.... sudo -u zenoss /opt/zenoss/bin/zeneventlog start
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:15] <xoritor> but then you have to setup your env to have the same stuff as is in the zenoss user env
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:34] <progma> if i run it as root, it still forks off the process as owned by zenoss (as long as i export $ZENHOME)
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:37] <xoritor> i find it easier to just "sudo su - zenoss" then run the commands
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:44] <xoritor> yea
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:57] <xoritor> export zenhome then it should work as pretty much any user
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:07] <progma> do you lock down the su command via sudoers? i haven't seen that before
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:11] <xoritor> i just dont like running things as root
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:24] <xoritor> some times
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:28] <xoritor> usually
[04-Oct-2007 15:50:13] <progma> true but the sh scripts seem to have su - <zenoss user> in them ; either way that is a good precaution
[04-Oct-2007 15:51:51] <progma> there's just some weirdness going on here where zeneventog stops after running for about 10 minutes, but if i manually kick it off as root it stays up
[04-Oct-2007 15:57:16] <incorrect> how can i collect the installed software?
[04-Oct-2007 16:01:54] <progma> incorrect: ?
[04-Oct-2007 16:03:22] <incorrect> there is a tab on a device profile that says software
[04-Oct-2007 16:03:29] <incorrect> how can i populate it?
[04-Oct-2007 16:07:49] <incorrect> oh it managed to get it for windows
[04-Oct-2007 16:07:50] <incorrect> thats cool
[04-Oct-2007 16:08:34] <incorrect> now for linux
[04-Oct-2007 16:17:54] <progma> no idea; how'd you get it to populate for windows?
[04-Oct-2007 16:22:53] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[04-Oct-2007 16:44:29] <incorrect> it just worked, i guess it got it via snmp
[04-Oct-2007 16:56:40] <MoreDakka> haha...still reading your name first.....
[04-Oct-2007 16:56:55] <MoreDakka> "incorrect it just worked, i guess it got it via snmp"
[04-Oct-2007 16:56:58] <MoreDakka> hehe
[04-Oct-2007 16:57:27] <MoreDakka> anyways my question -> What is your description of systems, locations and groups?
[04-Oct-2007 16:57:40] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to organize.
[04-Oct-2007 16:57:51] <MoreDakka> I'm thinking Locations is well, locations, physical
[04-Oct-2007 16:58:05] <MoreDakka> Systems and groups though, I'm not sure what they mean by those.
[04-Oct-2007 16:58:29] <kgoedtel> im using systems to organize virtual machines into systems as subsystems
[04-Oct-2007 16:58:47] <kgoedtel> works well for aggregate reports :]
[04-Oct-2007 16:59:11] <MoreDakka> So you have BOX1 and under BOX1 you'll have Windows, Linux..etc..etc.?
[04-Oct-2007 16:59:56] <kgoedtel> well im using xen, so it would be the equivalent of /dom0, /dom0/vm1, /dom0/vm2... etc
[04-Oct-2007 17:00:09] <MoreDakka> ah
[04-Oct-2007 17:00:36] <MoreDakka> What would someone use systems for if they don't have VMs? I could use groups as Company names...that might work.
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:01] <kgoedtel> thats what im using groups for
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:09] <kgoedtel> company or client names
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:46] <kgoedtel> and some clients have parent companies so it fits that paradigm well
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:55] <mutil8> i used systems for different departments
[04-Oct-2007 17:02:45] <kgoedtel> for me i would stick departments as a subset of a company in group
[04-Oct-2007 17:02:54] <MoreDakka> that's what I'm thinking.
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:09] <MoreDakka> So what can I use Systems for...
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:26] <kgoedtel> well, if you have a blade...
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:31] <MoreDakka> I could organize it by system type....we have Servers, Switches, Radios
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:45] <MoreDakka> then under each one have the manufactuer
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:58] <kgoedtel> you could depending on how you have already organized your devices... it may be redundant
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:04] <MoreDakka> manufacturer
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:26] <kgoedtel> for the most part it is only useful for running reports
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:31] <kgoedtel> so whatever fits your need
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:36] <MoreDakka> Well right now I don't really use groups or locations as I found them somewhat useless in version 1.1.1 (which is what I'm using right now)
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:53] <MoreDakka> So I'm thinking of re-organizing when v2.1 comes out
[04-Oct-2007 17:05:20] <MoreDakka> And if I can ever get the zen2dump.py and zen2load.py working.
[04-Oct-2007 17:13:35] <incorrect> zenoss is cool, i like not having to spend days and days configuring nagios
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:46] <kgoedtel> oh trust me you can spend days configuring zenoss :]
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:47] <xoritor> anyone gotten ldap auth to work?
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:59] <kgoedtel> months even
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:59] <MoreDakka> haha
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:07] <MoreDakka> Getting it to the way you want it.
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:22] <MoreDakka> But agreed that Zenoss is waaaay easier to configure then Nagios
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:41] <MoreDakka> I think Nagios is a more powerful monitoring tool in some ways though...Zenoss programmers are closing the gap though.
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:47] <kgoedtel> ive created 4 zenpacks, many templates, and now i am working on custom mibs/oids in snmpd
[04-Oct-2007 17:16:28] <incorrect> zenoss is using 4gb of ram
[04-Oct-2007 17:16:30] <incorrect> :S
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:22] <MoreDakka> What's the best site to go to find out what an OID is?
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:38] <snoozes> for windows?
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:39] <MoreDakka> mibdepot?
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:49] <MoreDakka> naw, a redline radio
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:13] <snoozes> not sure. I've just been using snmp-informant's site for windows OIDs.
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:33] <xoritor> grrr
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:35] <MoreDakka> bah, need to find what these OIDs are on RedLines and DragonWaves....
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:43] <xoritor> ldap auth is a PITA
[04-Oct-2007 17:23:21] <dschrock> do you have the dragonwave mib files?
[04-Oct-2007 17:24:12] <dschrock> we have a number of dragonwave links
[04-Oct-2007 17:25:44] <MoreDakka> Where can I find the DW MIBs? I'll put them into Zenoss but I need to know that information for Cacti as well.
[04-Oct-2007 17:25:51] <incorrect> is there a problem with python on amd64 bit platforms?
[04-Oct-2007 17:26:08] <dschrock> www.dragonwaveinc.com
[04-Oct-2007 17:26:24] <dschrock> under the support downloads
[04-Oct-2007 17:28:27] <MoreDakka> Hmmm....login...I'll have to find that information.
[04-Oct-2007 17:31:39] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[04-Oct-2007 17:38:50] <MoreDakka> dschrock: Do you use any redlines?
[04-Oct-2007 17:40:38] <dschrock> i think there are a few in the network somewhere, but not in my region
[04-Oct-2007 17:41:19] <MoreDakka> Hmm....Redline in google doesn't come up with much. I'm waiting for the login uid/pw for the Dragonwave site...
[04-Oct-2007 17:42:38] <mutil8> incorrect: you running on centos/redhat?
[04-Oct-2007 17:42:56] <dschrock> www.redlinecommunications.com
[04-Oct-2007 17:45:02] <incorrect> yes rhel 5
[04-Oct-2007 17:46:27] <mutil8> on my debian boxes i install ia32-libs, im sure there's something similar with rhel5
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:00] <mutil8> i don't know if zenoss requires them, because i install them first off on every amd64 install, but it may help if there's things that just don't quite work
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:01] <incorrect> yes i think there is
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:06] <incorrect> i hate rhel
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:07] <incorrect>
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:12] <mutil8> why use it then?
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:27] <incorrect> not my hoice
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:28] <incorrect> choice
[04-Oct-2007 17:49:01] <mutil8> heh, the distro of linux we use here is about the only thing i actually have a say in
[04-Oct-2007 17:49:24] <mutil8> they pretend to care what i say about other stuff, but pretty much ignore it
[04-Oct-2007 18:24:58] <xoritor> woo hooo
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:02] <xoritor> got ldap auth working
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:05] <wereshark> i'm getting this alert every 5 min "sendto error Host <zenoss server hostname> and <zenoss server full domain name> are both using
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:27] <xoritor> anyone know how to make zenoss ldap auth plugins pull the mail address for alerts from ldap
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:29] <wereshark> <ip address>
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:37] <xoritor> s/zenoss/zope/
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:48] <wereshark> xoritor: man that is awesome i hope to get that implemented also
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:57] <xoritor> wereshark: its really easy
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:04] <wereshark> suuure
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:19] <xoritor> the only bit that was even remotely tricky was making sure that MY objects were correct
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:29] <wereshark> if my zenoss server's device name is just the hostname, would it cause that error
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:41] <xoritor> install the python-ldap and untar two downloaded files pointed to in the howto
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:43] <wereshark> also, what should zenoss server's device name be, localhost?
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:47] <xoritor> follow the howto
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:02] <wereshark> xoritor: thanks!
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:10] <xoritor> my device name is my fqdn
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:18] <xoritor> but you have to have your monitor as "localhost"
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:37] <wereshark> ok
[04-Oct-2007 18:35:39] <wereshark> ok status monitor and performance monitor both are localhost
[04-Oct-2007 18:35:50] <wereshark> i should be able to change from hostname to fqdn in device list without a hitch, eh
[04-Oct-2007 18:36:43] <xoritor> yea i have it that way
[04-Oct-2007 18:37:50] <mutil8> you sure your dns is working properly on that box?
[04-Oct-2007 18:41:19] <xoritor> 512MB ram is NOT enough for zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 18:41:20] <xoritor> heh
[04-Oct-2007 18:41:38] <xoritor> not with mysql etc... all running on that host
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:01] <mutil8> im running it in a VM with a gig of ram
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:04] <mutil8> smooth as silk
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:11] <mutil8> but i only monitor about 40 devices
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:19] <xoritor> 2007-10-03 07:06:02 ERROR zen.Events: (1062, "Duplicate entry 'c0a8328c35dda980ffffffe' for key 1")
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:27] <xoritor> this is a horrible issue
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:56] <xoritor> i have had this on multiple occasions on multiple instances
[04-Oct-2007 18:45:23] <kgoedtel> anyone have experience with using 'pass' in snmpd?
[04-Oct-2007 18:45:36] <kgoedtel> i am getting the following error when walking my OID i created
[04-Oct-2007 18:45:41] <kgoedtel> "Error: OID not increasing"
[04-Oct-2007 18:50:03] <wereshark> mutil8: no, i'm not sure, checking now
[04-Oct-2007 18:51:30] <wereshark> is there a site that lists recommended backup strategies with zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 18:51:47] <wereshark> it looks like the eventlog is backed up nightly by default?
[04-Oct-2007 18:51:53] <kgoedtel> backup events db, backup $zenhome
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:06] <wereshark> what about putting something like
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:13] <wereshark> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenbackup --save-mysql-access --file=/opt/zenoss_zenbackup_`date +%h%d%Y`.sql
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:17] <wereshark> in cron.daily
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:36] <wereshark> that still doesn't back up $zenhome ?
[04-Oct-2007 18:57:57] <MoreDakka> Can the font size be lowered in the dashboard? Make the font and menus more like v.1.x?
[04-Oct-2007 18:58:43] <snoozes> Probably just need to tweak a stylesheet.
[04-Oct-2007 18:58:48] <snoozes> .css styles
[04-Oct-2007 19:22:50] <MoreDakka> thanks snoozes....
[04-Oct-2007 19:23:00] <MoreDakka> I'll have to look at that later.
[04-Oct-2007 19:23:11] <MoreDakka> Can Zenoss monitor Packet Loss?
[04-Oct-2007 19:36:29] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: interesting... i'm not quite sure how you'd do that
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:04] <MoreDakka> It would be nice. Nagios can monitor by default...I like the idea of getting a message if there is more than 50% PL on the line.
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:22] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: what's your agent os for this? Linux?
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:30] <xoritor> argh
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:37] <xoritor> mysql socket issues
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:48] <xoritor> could that be because i only have 512 MB ram
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:49] <xoritor> ?
[04-Oct-2007 19:38:09] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: if nagios could do it, I almost have to assume it's part of net-snmp
[04-Oct-2007 19:38:31] <xoritor> no errors in any of the mysql.og / messages / audit.log etc...
[04-Oct-2007 19:38:43] <xoritor> and the socket exists
[04-Oct-2007 19:39:07] <MoreDakka> Dan: FC4 or CentOS 5
[04-Oct-2007 19:40:43] <MoreDakka> Yay first post about Beta 2.0.92 :-D
[04-Oct-2007 19:40:57] <MoreDakka> well sorta ":-D" I was hoping that the problem would have been resolved.
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[04-Oct-2007 20:03:57] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: i dunno... i'd do an snmpwalk to see if i could locate it
[04-Oct-2007 20:04:46] <MoreDakka> Does SNMP track that information?
[04-Oct-2007 20:05:14] <Dan000892> Not sure that's why i'd walk it
[04-Oct-2007 20:05:42] <Dan000892> it gets errors by interface
[04-Oct-2007 20:05:48] <Dan000892> not sure what else
[04-Oct-2007 20:06:33] <Dan000892> SNMP Informant Advanced for windows passes atPacketsDropped
[04-Oct-2007 20:06:43] <Dan000892> if it can (and does), Net-SNMP might too
[04-Oct-2007 21:12:30] <cioj> Hello, does anyone have time for a quick question about loading devices through REST?
[04-Oct-2007 21:49:04] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[04-Oct-2007 22:36:19] <mutil8> anybody know if it's possible to monitor current users, and other things of that nature for IIS?
[04-Oct-2007 22:37:03] <kgoedtel> like usernames?
[04-Oct-2007 22:37:23] <kgoedtel> because as far as i know, zenoss really cant take any custom strings
[04-Oct-2007 22:37:54] <mutil8> well, we have a couple public web servers, i'd like to see how many concurent users
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:19] <kgoedtel> i dont think that functionality is built in
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:24] <kgoedtel> but you can do it 2 other ways
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:28] <kgoedtel> well
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:28] <kgoedtel> 3
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:53] <kgoedtel> a command, a custom zenpack, or directly through snmp using your own agent
[04-Oct-2007 22:44:16] <mutil8> hmm
[04-Oct-2007 22:48:11] <mutil8> i see there's an httpmonitor zenpack on the zenoss site
[04-Oct-2007 22:49:55] <Dislo> hey guys what is the default password for the rra admin console on 2.0.91
[04-Oct-2007 22:56:50] <fishstickz> haha, south park this week was awesome
[04-Oct-2007 22:57:21] <fishstickz> whoa
[04-Oct-2007 22:57:23] <fishstickz> wrong channel
[04-Oct-2007 22:57:52] <Dislo> fishstickz, well that is unfortunate i was going to talk with you about south park
[04-Oct-2007 22:58:01] <fishstickz> haha
[04-Oct-2007 22:58:22] <fishstickz> I'm in too many IRC channels... it was bound to happen eventually
[04-Oct-2007 22:59:04] <Dislo> fishstickz, it gets everyone everyonce in a while
[04-Oct-2007 22:59:14] <Dislo> hey guys what is the default password for the rra admin console on 2.0.91
[04-Oct-2007 22:59:55] <fishstickz> Isn't it just admin/admin?
[04-Oct-2007 23:01:27] <Dislo> fishstickz, nope
[04-Oct-2007 23:01:37] <fishstickz> hm
[04-Oct-2007 23:11:13] <Dislo> fishstickz, nope
[04-Oct-2007 23:11:18] <Dislo> hey guys what is the default password for the rra admin console on 2.0.91
[04-Oct-2007 23:11:43] <Dislo> fishstickz, sorry about that slip of the finger
[04-Oct-2007 23:14:28] <mutil8> admin zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 23:14:32] <mutil8> ?
[04-Oct-2007 23:14:51] <Dislo> the rra console not the zenoss console
[04-Oct-2007 23:15:53] <kgoedtel> rra?
[04-Oct-2007 23:15:59] <kgoedtel> whats be this
[04-Oct-2007 23:16:43] <kgoedtel> all i know for rra is the rrd archives
[04-Oct-2007 23:16:56] <Dislo> kgoedtel, if you are using the appliences vs actually installing it like i am because i am lazy and only need to have a few things monitored
[04-Oct-2007 23:17:13] <Dislo> yeah i just looked at their wiki and there was the answer
[04-Oct-2007 23:18:43] <kgoedtel> i still don't get it
[04-Oct-2007 23:46:53] <Dan000892> HELP!
[04-Oct-2007 23:47:11] <Dan000892> I think my database is royally screwed...
[04-Oct-2007 23:47:47] <Dan000892> I've been adding devices this week without problems
[04-Oct-2007 23:48:05] <Dan000892> but now I try to add another or re-model one of my recent devices and I get a slew of errors
[04-Oct-2007 23:48:19] <Dan000892> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py", line 168, in removeForwardIndexEntry indexRow.remove(documentId) KeyError: 1877707186 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py", line 168, in removeForwardIndexEntry indexRow.remove(documentId) KeyError: 1877707192 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Pr
[04-Oct-2007 23:49:07] <Dan000892> and some nice Zope errors: ERROR Zope.UnIndex FieldIndex: unindex_object could not remove documentId 1877707192 from index monitored. This should not happen.
[04-Oct-2007 23:49:36] <Dan000892> It's really the "This should not happen." part that strikes fear.
[04-Oct-2007 23:50:10] <mutil8> ahah
[04-Oct-2007 23:50:55] <Dan000892> it even tells me it collected snmp info for two different devices which leads me to believe that something may be incorrectly linked in the database
[04-Oct-2007 23:51:15] <Dan000892> but I don't know how to go about finding the problem and fixing it... this is under 2.0.6
[04-Oct-2007 23:56:41] <Dan000892> anyone willing to take a stab?
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[05-Oct-2007 01:06:34] <bisbebri> Hey all
[05-Oct-2007 01:06:46] <bisbebri> is there any one here who could possibily help me?
[05-Oct-2007 01:54:49] <mutil8> bisbebri: whatcha need?
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[05-Oct-2007 11:51:15] <pablo26> hi all
[05-Oct-2007 11:52:44] <pablo26> the other day i modified the email template, now when i get message the ipAdress field does not appear and now its not clearing the disk space usage tresholds
[05-Oct-2007 12:19:25] <pablo27> hi
[05-Oct-2007 12:19:59] <pablo27> anyone is having problem with the clear events of disk space treshold? i'm not getting them
[05-Oct-2007 12:33:09] <pablo27> anyone know how to change the base addres of zenoss, when it sends mails the links are http://192.168.0.234:8080/.. and i want to chage that
[05-Oct-2007 12:33:44] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[05-Oct-2007 13:08:21] <imperfect-> Anyone know how i can get zenoss to give me a like
[05-Oct-2007 13:08:40] <imperfect-> port status page for a particular switch so that I dont have to click on each port to get a graph?
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[05-Oct-2007 14:05:35] <auonline> Hello?
[05-Oct-2007 14:07:47] <auonline> I see a service class of zport/dmd/Services/IpService/Privileged/serviceclasses/ftp
[05-Oct-2007 14:08:13] <auonline> Can this somehow be used to monitor open ftp ports?
[05-Oct-2007 14:12:15] <auonline> Hello Bulwinkle
[05-Oct-2007 14:12:24] <Bulwinkle> hi auonline
[05-Oct-2007 14:12:52] <auonline> you here to ask/monitor or assist?
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:05] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle likes to just hang out ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:18] <Bulwinkle> auonline: yes
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:39] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka likes to be a pain in the butt
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:48] <MoreDakka> :-/ haha....it's sorta true
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:59] <auonline> do you guys use zenoss?
[05-Oct-2007 14:14:15] <Bulwinkle> yes
[05-Oct-2007 14:14:20] <MoreDakka> yep
[05-Oct-2007 14:14:56] <auonline> use it for monitoring availability of services such as ftp?
[05-Oct-2007 14:15:02] <auonline> on another server
[05-Oct-2007 14:15:31] <Bulwinkle> auonline: yes
[05-Oct-2007 14:16:18] <auonline> I hope you can help...I've setup Zenoss ... snmp works...
[05-Oct-2007 14:16:41] <auonline> I think I can use a service class onto a device that I've added but can't see how to link it
[05-Oct-2007 14:17:01] <auonline> another words...I can't monitor when my ftp service is down
[05-Oct-2007 14:17:50] <auonline> how did you set it up on yours Bulwinkle? SNMP?
[05-Oct-2007 14:17:58] <MoreDakka> Zenoss can monitor that service in the OS tab. Bulwinkle will probably be able to explain better.
[05-Oct-2007 14:18:15] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: no, no, go ahead....
[05-Oct-2007 14:18:45] <MoreDakka> haha
[05-Oct-2007 14:18:47] <MoreDakka> fine fine.
[05-Oct-2007 14:19:53] <MoreDakka> Open the OS tab of the system you want to monitor. click on the upside-down triangle next to "IP Services". Type FTP in the box and select TCP. Hit OK...vioala, Zenoss is monitoring it ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 14:20:53] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle: Can the Abailability counters be reset?
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:05] <MoreDakka> The Availability even
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:35] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: dunno.... should be able to be
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:45] <auonline> hmmm... don't see it...using 2.06 In main views I click Device List
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:58] <auonline> then my device
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:59] <Bulwinkle> to be honest, I'm not really working with Zenoss that much any more
[05-Oct-2007 14:22:23] <auonline> then OS
[05-Oct-2007 14:22:50] <auonline> I do see two upside down triangles...One by Interfaces and one by Routes
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:21] <MoreDakka> damn
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:25] <MoreDakka> haha....I'm on 2.0.92
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:28] <MoreDakka> or v1.1.1
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:42] <MoreDakka> so you, being right in between I'm missing what you are seeing
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:54] <auonline> ah...good...I have 2.0.92 running too...
[05-Oct-2007 14:24:15] <auonline> got desperate hoping it would have more features..
[05-Oct-2007 14:24:39] <MoreDakka> Zenoss has a wack of features...you should go through the guide and see what you can use.
[05-Oct-2007 14:25:10] <MoreDakka> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=zenoss&filename=ZenossAdminGuide2-0.pdf.zip&use_mirror=superb-east
[05-Oct-2007 14:25:24] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Downloading ... (at sourceforge.net)
[05-Oct-2007 14:25:52] <MoreDakka> Thanks bot....sooooo useful
[05-Oct-2007 14:31:02] <auonline> I've gone through the doc before and now again it looks like I have to use CLI
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:04] <auonline> both on 2.06 and 2.09 I try zenstatus and they return the error permission denied bin/bash
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:25] <auonline> and no such file for bin/zenfuncitons
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:33] <auonline> tried as root and zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:47] <MoreDakka> Heh if there are errors I'm at a loss...I have a good set of my own errors I'm having the devs look at :-/
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:54] <MoreDakka> srry
[05-Oct-2007 14:33:42] <auonline> on your 2.09, are you monitoring stuff via non SNMP?
[05-Oct-2007 14:34:14] <auonline> if so, can you please verify it can only be done via some cli commands?
[05-Oct-2007 14:40:39] <MoreDakka> on 2.0.92 I've only got a few test machines on there but everything is monitored with icmp and some are monitored with snmp. Is that your question?
[05-Oct-2007 14:44:36] <auonline> Thank bulwinkle and moredakka...got it throught the instructions above.... OS ip services add ip services
[05-Oct-2007 14:45:14] <MoreDakka> Ah good. It's somewhat different then v2.1
[05-Oct-2007 14:45:26] <auonline> 2.0.92 has it but the 2.0.6 doesn't????
[05-Oct-2007 14:51:16] <auonline> Found the issue...on the 2.0.6 it did not autoadd http and thus it did not have the IPServices table.
[05-Oct-2007 14:52:15] <auonline> In 2.0.6 I was still able to add ftp via the upsidedown arrow next to status add add ipinterface
[05-Oct-2007 14:52:46] <auonline> Voila...IP Services section is now there and contains ftp
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:13] <auonline> Just finished testing it on failure...got it to restart my ftp service via "Event Manager" "Commands"
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:24] <auonline> Thanks again
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:36] <MoreDakka> I think (haven't played with it yet) but on the left menu if you click on services and find the service that you want zenoss to monitor automatically you can find it, turn it to "true" then when it models a device it will search for all the "true" and automatically set them up for monitoring.
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:37] <MoreDakka> I think
[05-Oct-2007 14:55:34] <auonline> I don't think so...that is what I was trying before...but let me verify on both versions
[05-Oct-2007 14:56:13] <auonline> hmmm...models a device...I saw that when I was inside of a device...
[05-Oct-2007 14:57:13] <auonline> yep...under manage...what does model a device mean
[05-Oct-2007 15:00:05] <auonline> made service check as true...then manage model device...did not add it on 2.0.6
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:26] <mutil8> auonline: are you able to get stats from your http services? such as concurent users, etc?
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:35] <incorrect> i am going round setting what services to be monitored on each host
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:38] <incorrect> this is taking forever
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:51] <mutil8> use a template if they're are some common ones
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:53] <incorrect> can i create a template or a profile of some type
[05-Oct-2007 15:02:24] <incorrect> where do i configure templates?
[05-Oct-2007 15:02:57] <mutil8> sec
[05-Oct-2007 15:04:05] <mutil8> there's a 'template' tab on each device, and device grouping
[05-Oct-2007 15:04:21] <mutil8> so if you go to /devices/server/windows you can set up templates for all of them i believe
[05-Oct-2007 15:04:51] <mutil8> that my just be for perf monitoring though
[05-Oct-2007 15:05:05] <incorrect> i got it
[05-Oct-2007 15:08:56] <incorrect> is there a howto to get hardware information monitored on dell?
[05-Oct-2007 15:09:10] <incorrect> wow that was good engrish
[05-Oct-2007 15:11:43] <auonline> mutil8: No...it's just an IP service...I'm not getting it through syslog or snmp
[05-Oct-2007 15:13:30] <progma> incorrect: what kind of dells
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:07] <incorrect> 1950
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:10] <incorrect> power edge
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:18] <progma> incorrect: do you have omsa installed
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:22] <incorrect> i've got drac's and omsa installed
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:50] <incorrect> i've installed the mib's from the /opt/dell dir
[05-Oct-2007 15:15:59] <progma> incorrect: can you snmpwalk it
[05-Oct-2007 15:16:53] <incorrect> stupid question, does omsa run its own snmpd ?
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:13] <progma> incorrect: nope, it modifies existing snmpd
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:29] <incorrect> uh oh
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:41] <progma> incorrect: not sure about 1950 but i've done it with 2650 and 2850
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:41] <mutil8> what is omsa?
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:43] <incorrect> i think ill need to go find fresh install
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:04] <incorrect> dell's open manage something or other
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:14] <incorrect> allows you to get hardware info
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:19] <mutil8> ah
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:49] <mutil8> i should look into that, all my servers are dells
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:59] <mutil8> 1950's and 1855/1955
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:14] <incorrect> its really good
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:29] <incorrect> not as good as hp's ilo
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:30] <incorrect> so im told
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:41] <incorrect> it can send snmp traps
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:49] <incorrect> not that i've ever had it working
[05-Oct-2007 15:20:13] <mutil8> i'd like to find a way to monitor concurrent connections in IIS
[05-Oct-2007 15:23:18] <kgoedtel> im doing things like that using pass in snmpd
[05-Oct-2007 15:23:26] <kgoedtel> so i can make my own oids
[05-Oct-2007 15:24:02] <kgoedtel> using pass and a good bit of perl, pretty much anything is possible
[05-Oct-2007 15:25:01] <mutil8> i may have to look into that once i get the basics going
[05-Oct-2007 15:25:37] <kgoedtel> right now i am trying to get this snmp module for apache2
[05-Oct-2007 15:26:29] <kgoedtel> having issues compiling snmp with it under solaris unfortunately
[05-Oct-2007 15:30:21] <incorrect> how does zenoss collect what software is installed?
[05-Oct-2007 15:33:56] <pablo27> anyone is having this issue when a treshold eventb(in my case disk space) occurs then when its solved the clear event does not appear
[05-Oct-2007 15:35:45] <incorrect> don't know how to setup threshold events yet
[05-Oct-2007 15:38:06] <incorrect> ah well i did something and got more information over snmp
[05-Oct-2007 15:41:16] <incorrect> for some reason one box i have returns over 3000 lines when i snmpwalk it
[05-Oct-2007 15:41:24] <incorrect> and other boxes only return 2000
[05-Oct-2007 15:44:23] <mutil8> holy crap
[05-Oct-2007 15:44:29] <mutil8> 3000 returns for an snmp walk
[05-Oct-2007 15:44:55] <incorrect> is that a lot?
[05-Oct-2007 15:45:14] <incorrect> 3406, is that i got last
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:04] <mutil8> seems like a lot to me
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:17] <kgoedtel> seems fairly normal to me
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:26] <kgoedtel> for a linux machine
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:58] <kgoedtel> so, tacos next friday i heard
[05-Oct-2007 15:55:15] <mutil8> hmm, i haven't walked one of my linux boxes
[05-Oct-2007 15:55:22] <mutil8> im pretty sure i don't get that much from my windows machines
[05-Oct-2007 16:03:00] <xoritor> ok its 1000% official now
[05-Oct-2007 16:03:23] <xoritor> ldap group mapping in zenoss is h0rked
[05-Oct-2007 16:03:25] <xoritor> ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:10] <MoreDakka> That's a cool word....h0rked.
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:23] <xoritor> heh
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:40] <xoritor> cause im such an uber cool dude ;-) </sarcasm>
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:43] <MoreDakka> Didn't know it was multipurpose.
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:02] <xoritor> heh
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:29] <MoreDakka> "My Cat h0rked up a hairball" "My Computer h0rked, I can't use it anymore"...haha
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:38] <xoritor> hehehe
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:55] <xoritor> the intranetwebthingy h0rked up my life!
[05-Oct-2007 16:07:17] <xoritor> it is very versitile!
[05-Oct-2007 16:07:34] * xoritor has no life
[05-Oct-2007 16:07:46] * xoritor 's life is h0rked
[05-Oct-2007 16:08:04] <xoritor> ok ok ok... ill stop im h0rking it up anyways
[05-Oct-2007 16:08:54] <xoritor> so i have ldap auth working, but only minimally
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:10] <xoritor> it gets the uid/pass stuff and auths
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:26] <xoritor> and zope pulls the groups
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:29] <incorrect> h0rk3d?
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:59] <xoritor> its mapped in zope itaustin -> zenmanager
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:00] <incorrect> what happened to b0rk3d?
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:16] <xoritor> b0rk3d got h0rk3d
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:24] <xoritor> by m0rk
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:32] <xoritor> while m1ndy was out
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:47] <MoreDakka> He ch0rked on a carrot then h0rked a b0rk
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:50] <kgoedtel> i b0rk3d my c0mpukt0rb
[05-Oct-2007 16:11:07] <MoreDakka> pukt0rb
[05-Oct-2007 16:11:15] <MoreDakka> clever
[05-Oct-2007 16:11:59] <xoritor> MoreDakka: more like cleaver
[05-Oct-2007 16:13:20] <xoritor> funny thing is if you create a user in zenoss then they auth via ldap everything works pretty good
[05-Oct-2007 16:13:38] <xoritor> but if you just let a user auth via ldap then things are a bit screwy
[05-Oct-2007 16:14:29] <xoritor> ie... they get only anonymous perms and no group mapping pulls through even if you define it in zope
[05-Oct-2007 16:22:13] <incorrect> does anyone know how to get the installed software from linux?
[05-Oct-2007 16:22:51] <xoritor> depends on the distro
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:06] <xoritor> rpm based ones you can do " rpm -qa"
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:08] <incorrect> well, i assume i need to write a script i
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:17] <xoritor> debain based ones "dpkg -l"
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:26] <xoritor> source based ones vary
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:30] <incorrect> i was wondering more, how do i return this to zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:32] <xoritor> some you cant
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:48] <xoritor> oh... cant help you there as i have not looked into that yet ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:48] <xoritor> hehe
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:51] <incorrect> ok assume i know my package manager
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:56] <incorrect>
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:58] <incorrect> fair enough
[05-Oct-2007 16:24:01] <incorrect> thanks
[05-Oct-2007 16:24:19] <xoritor> you can prolly pull them from snmp aslo
[05-Oct-2007 16:24:45] <incorrect> ok next dumb question, do i have the plugins if i have installed 2.0.6
[05-Oct-2007 16:25:07] <xoritor> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSWRunParameters.4174 = STRING: "rpm"
[05-Oct-2007 16:25:07] <incorrect> yeah i just don't know what to configure for snmpd.conf
[05-Oct-2007 16:25:11] <xoritor> there is something for that
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:10] <xoritor> hrSWInstalledName
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:17] <xoritor> hrSWInstalledIndex
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:21] <xoritor> maybe
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:22] <xoritor> hmm
[05-Oct-2007 16:32:46] <incorrect> sorry, but do you get the zenoss plugins by default in the latest version?
[05-Oct-2007 16:34:57] <xoritor> im using snmp for everything really so far
[05-Oct-2007 16:35:01] <xoritor> so i cant tell ya
[05-Oct-2007 16:35:11] <incorrect> no worries
[05-Oct-2007 16:57:29] <xoritor> odd
[05-Oct-2007 16:57:45] <xoritor> when i remove ldap auth and remove my zenoss user
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:08] <xoritor> then add the zenoss user back, it keeps my old settings
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:53] <xoritor> i have made sure that the account is not there by trying to log in "
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:53] <xoritor> The entered password or
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:53] <xoritor> username is incorrect.
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:55] <xoritor> "
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:57] <xoritor> heh
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:59] <xoritor> sorry
[05-Oct-2007 17:40:43] <pablo27> is any way to change the site url? i have an apache proxy, i get to the log in but in the next step or in the mail notifications i get the internal addres http://192.168.0.242:8080 instead of monitor.mysite.com
[05-Oct-2007 17:41:21] <kgoedtel> yep
[05-Oct-2007 17:41:58] <kgoedtel> in zenaction config file
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:00] <kgoedtel> add
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:09] <kgoedtel> zopeurl http://monitor.mysite.com:8080
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:12] <kgoedtel> or whatever
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:23] <pablo27> tanks!
[05-Oct-2007 17:47:12] <pablo27> zenaction.conf is empy do i edit zope.conf?
[05-Oct-2007 17:48:11] <kgoedtel> no
[05-Oct-2007 17:48:17] <kgoedtel> put it in zenactions.conf
[05-Oct-2007 17:48:33] <kgoedtel> it should be empty by default
[05-Oct-2007 17:49:48] <pablo27> naad what services do i have to restar?
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:09] <kgoedtel> probably just zenactions
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:25] <kgoedtel> at least for the email to have the right link
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:27] <pablo27> ok
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:53] <pablo27> do u have any idea why its not clearing the events generated by tresholds, for example disk treshold
[05-Oct-2007 17:51:44] <kgoedtel> nope, never had that problem
[05-Oct-2007 17:58:03] <pablo27> i'm using the default template its strange
[05-Oct-2007 17:58:42] <kgoedtel> are the events actually clearning? or you are just not getting an email?
[05-Oct-2007 17:58:49] <kgoedtel> clearing*
[05-Oct-2007 18:03:37] <pablo27> they are not clearing
[05-Oct-2007 18:04:02] <pablo27> i have to send them to history manually
[05-Oct-2007 18:04:35] <kgoedtel> very strange
[05-Oct-2007 18:05:58] <pablo27> and also in that mail i dont see the ipAddress field but i found that as a bug
[05-Oct-2007 18:08:52] <pablo27> the value is ok u go to the properties and u see it right
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[05-Oct-2007 18:55:36] <mutil8> who was monitoring the poweredge servers?
[05-Oct-2007 19:18:02] <pablo27> i have some poweredge servers mutil8
[05-Oct-2007 20:41:54] <progma> mutil8: i've monitored poweredges, although i haven't done it with zenoss (yet)
[05-Oct-2007 20:42:57] <progma> i mainly wanted to use the temperature sensors on the poweredges that are enabled via ipmi
[05-Oct-2007 20:42:57] <progma> the omsa sets up snmpd.conf such that each sensor has an oid
[05-Oct-2007 20:42:58] <progma> and it graphed like a champ in cacti and i set up alerting in zabbix for thresholds
[05-Oct-2007 20:43:23] <mutil8> yeah, i'd like to monitor the temps
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[05-Oct-2007 20:46:24] <mutil8> we're running some dell blades too, and i can see all kinds of great info if i log into the chassis, i'd like to get that stuff inside Zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 20:47:03] <bisbebri> hey all
[05-Oct-2007 20:47:11] <bisbebri> could i get some help if possible
[05-Oct-2007 20:48:17] <mutil8> ask away
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:16] <progma> mutil8: i'm in a new place where they have the newer poweredges, so maybe we can collab at some point
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:44] <bisbebri> i am using the windows version
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:46] <bisbebri> in vmware...
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:48] <bisbebri> adn I cant login
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:56] <bisbebri> using admin and zenoss as the password
[05-Oct-2007 20:50:15] <bisbebri> When i go to https://192.168.1.78:8003
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:25] <bisbebri> I get the rpath appliance webpage thing
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:25] <mutil8> that's for the console login
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:34] <mutil8> the zenoss page is at port 8080
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:39] <bisbebri> ahhhh
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:49] <bisbebri> its starting back up so i can try
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:05] <mutil8> im interested to see how you like that VM
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:15] <mutil8> i'm running it in a VM, but i installed it myself
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:35] <bisbebri> vmware seems more convenient for me...
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:49] <mutil8> im running it in vmware
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:01] <mutil8> but i installed everything myself, instead of running that downloadable image
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:44] <bisbebri> that worked! thanks
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:48] <bisbebri> whats this rpath appliance
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:55] <mutil8> those are the people that setup that VM
[05-Oct-2007 20:54:18] <bisbebri> ah
[05-Oct-2007 20:55:15] <mutil8> progma: so if i have the dell open manager installed, i should be able to use SNMP to pull in the info it's reading from the sensor right?
[05-Oct-2007 20:59:20] <bisbebri> Can I make this scan my network and find devices
[05-Oct-2007 21:00:33] <mutil8> should be able to
[05-Oct-2007 21:00:39] <mutil8> add a network, and then select it and scan it
[05-Oct-2007 21:01:30] <bisbebri> Click Networks?
[05-Oct-2007 21:01:57] <mutil8> what release are you using?
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:01] <mutil8> 2.0.6 or 2.0.91
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:06] <bisbebri> and it sees my network but it only shows 2 things
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:07] <bisbebri> uhhh
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:13] <bisbebri> 2.06
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:21] <bisbebri> 2.0.6*
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:29] <mutil8> you should be able to select a network
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:35] <mutil8> and then 'discover device'
[05-Oct-2007 21:03:16] <bisbebri> Where is that at?
[05-Oct-2007 21:03:46] <mutil8> the down arrow next to 'subnetworks'
[05-Oct-2007 21:04:58] <progma> mutil8: yes
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:16] <bisbebri> i clicked it.... and i guess its doing it
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:18] <progma> mutil8: i forget where dell puts the mibs
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:35] <progma> mutil8: the linux-poweredge mailing list is a great resource
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:47] <mutil8> i've got the MIBs
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:51] <mutil8> and they're loaded in zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:59] <mutil8> but how do i see this info when i look at the server?
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:19] <progma> mutil8: did you setup the omsa web interface?
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:23] <mutil8> yep
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:34] <mutil8> logged in and looking now
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:42] <progma> you can see temps in there
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:47] <mutil8> yes
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:58] <mutil8> can that be pulled into zenoss?
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:59] <progma> also you can cmd line with ipmitool
[05-Oct-2007 21:08:20] <progma> i assume, i haven't done it yet but as long as you have snmp working it ought to work with zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 21:08:55] <progma> and of course you can just snmpwalk the mib
[05-Oct-2007 21:11:30] <mutil8> ok, i can walk it
[05-Oct-2007 21:11:48] <mutil8> maybe im missing something in the docs, or need to re-read them
[05-Oct-2007 21:12:08] <mutil8> i can snmpwalk it from the command line, but i'm not sure how i make zenoss do it through the web interface
[05-Oct-2007 21:12:14] <progma> me too hehe
[05-Oct-2007 21:21:14] <MoreDakka_> omg I hate it when client's connections go down and the ISP tells me one thing then 45 minutes later tell me something else...bah.
[05-Oct-2007 21:22:16] <bisbebri> Same thing happens to me too
[05-Oct-2007 21:22:53] <MoreDakka_> "Yeah the ticket has been assigned to a tech and he'll be out there in the next couple hours"....."No this ticket hasn't been assigned yet"...omg.
[05-Oct-2007 21:23:54] <mutil8> progma: i'll see how much of this i can get setup, and try and get a zenpack to you for monitoring temps
[05-Oct-2007 21:38:44] <dschrock> ~.~.
[05-Oct-2007 21:47:45] <mutil8> so who's made there own graphs for performance
[05-Oct-2007 21:47:50] <mutil8> i need some help on the format field
[05-Oct-2007 21:48:19] <mutil8> the OID im querying is going to return a temp in celsius
[05-Oct-2007 21:48:28] <mutil8> with a value like 280
[05-Oct-2007 21:48:33] <mutil8> which is 28.0 C
[05-Oct-2007 21:49:08] <mutil8> so what do i need to put in the format field to get 280 to come out as 28.0?
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[06-Oct-2007 17:27:35] <mutil8> anybody monitoring stats from iis with zenoss?
[06-Oct-2007 18:56:53] <rfoust> Hi all..i'm a nagios user trying out zenoss... Am I supposed to be able to monitor windows servers with WMI without having to install something on the windows box?
[06-Oct-2007 18:59:30] <mutil8> i haven't got that far, but from what i've read, if you enable the WMI service on the box, and have the correct username/passwords setup in zenoss, it should work
[06-Oct-2007 18:59:45] <mutil8> im doing all my monitoring with SNMP at this point
[06-Oct-2007 19:01:47] <rfoust> yeah i've been using only snmp from nagios and snmp-informant on windows, but snmp-informant has a memory leak that i haven't been able to track down. was hoping to move to wmi-only.
[06-Oct-2007 19:03:55] <mutil8> really... i haven't seen that, i'll have to keep an eye out for it
[06-Oct-2007 19:05:22] <mutil8> have you checked the forums?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:12] <rfoust> i've talked to the developer a few time. apparently i'm the only one seeing the problem. He thinks its a bug in microsoft's snmp service, and from what i've seen i think he may be right.
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:26] <mutil8> what OS are you noticing this on?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:28] <rfoust> haven't had any significant time to really troubleshoot it though
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:35] <rfoust> w2k3
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:43] <rfoust> sp1/sp2
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:45] <mutil8> r2?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:49] <mutil8> 32/64?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:55] <rfoust> no, r1 32bit
[06-Oct-2007 19:07:40] <rfoust> i've seen the leak on about 6 out of 120 servers
[06-Oct-2007 19:07:56] <rfoust> not sure what the trigger is
[06-Oct-2007 19:08:18] <mutil8> hmm
[06-Oct-2007 19:08:26] <mutil8> i only have 1 r1 32bit
[06-Oct-2007 19:08:30] <mutil8> let me take a quick look
[06-Oct-2007 19:09:28] <mutil8> don't see anything strange on it
[06-Oct-2007 19:09:40] <mutil8> only 1 of my 40 is r1
[06-Oct-2007 19:09:50] <mutil8> infact, it's the only 32 bit i have left
[06-Oct-2007 19:10:14] <rfoust> i need to take a closer look at 64 bit
[06-Oct-2007 19:10:38] <rfoust> i guess 32 bit apps will work on it...
[06-Oct-2007 19:11:22] <mutil8> the majority of them do
[06-Oct-2007 19:11:44] <mutil8> we went to 64bit because the memory management
[06-Oct-2007 19:12:00] <mutil8> we run a lot of ms sql servers, and you get quite a performance boost in 64bit over 32
[06-Oct-2007 19:12:27] <rfoust> interesting...i have about 10 sql servers running but they have very low load
[06-Oct-2007 19:12:50] <mutil8> most of mine are overloaded as they are, and they're pretty good machines
[06-Oct-2007 19:14:34] <mutil8> dual xeon 5160's with 16-32gb of ram
[06-Oct-2007 19:14:48] <mutil8> i've got 2 of them sitting at like 200-500mb of free memory
[06-Oct-2007 19:15:23] <mutil8> are you monitoring any IIS stats with nagios and snmp?
[06-Oct-2007 19:15:44] <mutil8> i've been trying to find a way to get current users and a few other things from SNMP, not sure if it's possible or not
[06-Oct-2007 19:16:54] <rfoust> I think I'm getting some graph data in Cacti using snmp-informant
[06-Oct-2007 19:17:04] <rfoust> you have snmp-informant on your servers?
[06-Oct-2007 19:17:58] <rfoust> I think the only IIS-related thing I'm monitoring in nagios right now is just check_tcp on port 80. lol
[06-Oct-2007 19:18:18] <mutil8> yeah
[06-Oct-2007 19:18:43] <mutil8> well, if you're doing it in cacti with snmp, i should be able to pull that into zenoss
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[07-Oct-2007 00:57:57] <bkingx> Hi all! Need help setting up mail notification.
[07-Oct-2007 01:16:05] <bkingx> OK, got the mail problem fixed. I did not need to use a username and password.
[07-Oct-2007 01:16:29] <bkingx> So next question, When is Zenoss going to implement Jabber notifications?
[07-Oct-2007 01:55:00] <mutil8> thats a pretty good idea
[07-Oct-2007 01:55:15] <mutil8> i'd like to see it send an sms notification as well
[07-Oct-2007 02:27:18] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: there is a place on the website for enhancements
[07-Oct-2007 02:53:36] <mutil8> have to check it out
[07-Oct-2007 03:45:43] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: yeah..... there is a lot of stuff there except documentation
[07-Oct-2007 03:47:58] <mutil8> hah
[07-Oct-2007 03:48:05] <mutil8> why would there be documentation
[07-Oct-2007 03:59:32] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: those guys are busy writing code, why bother with DOCS
[07-Oct-2007 04:09:53] <mutil8> i agree
[07-Oct-2007 04:09:59] <mutil8> i've figured out most of what i want to do
[07-Oct-2007 04:10:13] <mutil8> once things normalize i'll start asking in the forums, im sure the questions will get answered
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[07-Oct-2007 04:38:39] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: things never normalize
[07-Oct-2007 04:39:44] <mutil8> heh, i was talking about my particular installtion, but im sure you are correct even in reguards to that
[07-Oct-2007 04:40:38] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: you are just looking for SMS notifications?
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:08] <mutil8> for now
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:29] <mutil8> i still haven't found a way to monitor IIS or MSSQL like i want, but the basics are there
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:50] <mutil8> but yeah, sms notification would be nice
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:54] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: you can make your linux ZenOSS server in to a SMS message server
[07-Oct-2007 04:42:21] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: where are you from? (USA Texas here)
[07-Oct-2007 04:43:23] <mutil8> California
[07-Oct-2007 04:44:16] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: most CDMA providers (cell phones) have a email associated with a phone for messaging
[07-Oct-2007 04:44:25] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: have you looked in to that?
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:11] <mutil8> yeah, i may look into that, but im not sure if it shows up as an email or an sms message on the phone
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:38] <mutil8> the reason i even care is that on my phone an email is a quiet beep, while an sms messages makes a good deal of noise
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:39] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: does it really matter?
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:50] <mutil8> i don't always hear when i get email
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:53] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: gotcha
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:03] <mutil8> and if im going to be notified of a problem, i'd like to have a chance of hearing it
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:17] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: have you scoured the forums?
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:23] <mutil8> i'd rather not turn the volume up on my email notification because i get like 50 a day
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:30] <mutil8> nah, haven't looked into it too much
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:08] <mutil8> was just thinking about it today
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:25] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: are you just looking in to using zenoss as a prime time systems monitoring solution?
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:36] <mutil8> yeah
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:51] <mutil8> i've got it set up, and it's monitoring just about everything i want at this point
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:53] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: do you have it implemented yet?
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:04] <mutil8> like i said, just a few things i haven't got working yet, and im sure it's just a matter of time
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:11] <mutil8> yeah, been going for almost a week now
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:50] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: I've been working with it from 1.x to 2.0.9x and I'd say it is FAR from production
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:57] <mutil8> yeah?
[07-Oct-2007 04:49:11] <mutil8> what do you use/recommend for monitoring/notification then?
[07-Oct-2007 04:49:52] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: it is pretty and does a LOT but they need to get their change control process under control.... half of the time I upgrade there is some bug that makes my system UNOPERABLE and I have to backpeddle
[07-Oct-2007 04:50:04] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: what are you using now?
[07-Oct-2007 04:50:38] <mutil8> nothing really
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:10] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: are your pretty saavy with linux and SNMP, and what devices are you looking to monitor?
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:21] <mutil8> im comfortable with linux
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:31] <Bulwinkle> SNMP?
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:32] <mutil8> zenoss is my first project with snmp
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:50] <mutil8> 90% of the stuff i need to monitor is going to be windows devices
[07-Oct-2007 04:52:41] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: do you have a lot of different hardware vendors?
[07-Oct-2007 04:52:47] <mutil8> all our servers are dell
[07-Oct-2007 04:52:58] <mutil8> infact, in about 2 months, everything we have will be a poweredge 1955
[07-Oct-2007 04:53:08] <mutil8> we're going to all blades
[07-Oct-2007 04:53:22] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: and dell doesn't have a good solution for what you're looking to monitor?
[07-Oct-2007 04:54:31] <mutil8> they may
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:02] <mutil8> they have limited notification capabilities with the OMSA software
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:10] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: there are really two different things to monitor for servers.... hardware and services
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:14] <mutil8> but i also need to get perforamance stats, to help with scaling
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:27] <mutil8> and i'd like a central location
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:47] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: what do you have connected to your servers... backbone
[07-Oct-2007 04:56:16] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: cisco switches.... dell, hp poweredge?
[07-Oct-2007 04:56:22] <mutil8> we're using all hp procurve switches
[07-Oct-2007 04:56:59] <mutil8> soon as we go to all blade, im not sure exactly what we'll have, since the blade chassis have switches built into them, not 100% sure what route we'll go
[07-Oct-2007 04:57:06] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: if you are looking for bandwidth utilization, go with cacti for now
[07-Oct-2007 04:57:24] <mutil8> but right now, all our servers are dell, all our SAN's are IBM, and all our switches are HP
[07-Oct-2007 04:57:50] <Bulwinkle> are your SAN's IP attached?
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:02] <mutil8> IP and Fibre
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:08] <mutil8> you can monitor them via IP though
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:09] <Bulwinkle> PROBLEM
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:15] <Bulwinkle> ok
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:23] <Bulwinkle> do you know the OIDs?
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:35] <mutil8> we don't transfer data over IP on the SAN's, that's all fibre
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:43] <mutil8> not right now, im sure i could figure it out
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:53] <Bulwinkle> there is a big learning curve with ALL OSS monitoring systems
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:09] <progma> mutil8: we already have the pe blades - did you ever get the ipmi stuff reporting to zenoss?
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:15] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: that is what I said
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:45] <mutil8> progma: ipmi?
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:57] <mutil8> Bulwinkle: im sorry, i must have missed something, what do you mean
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:20] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: there is NO support unless one of is in here (IRC) or MAYBE the forums answer you
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:29] <mutil8> ah
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:31] <progma> mutil8: dell hardware stats like temperature
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:39] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: otherwise it is $100/ device
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:41] <mutil8> progma: yeah, you want a zenpack for that?
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:48] <progma> what we talked about last
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:57] <progma> mutil8: wow that was fast lol
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:08] <progma> mutil8: heck yah
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:14] <mutil8> Bulwinkle: when we go to a production level, we'll most likely buy the enterprise version, unless there's a reason not to
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:26] <mutil8> which comes with support correct?
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:45] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: I've not found a reason to move from from Nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:36] <mutil8> progma: i only have it for my PE1950's, don't have the 1955's yet (blades)
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:44] <mutil8> but im pulling in temp, and fan speeds
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:48] <progma> Bulwinkle: does nagiosgraph work without pulling teeth
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:52] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: even with the beautiful changes and all that is concerned.... ZenOSS is just an expensive enterprise solution at best
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:53] <mutil8> couldn't think of anything else to get
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:14] <progma> battery
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:21] <Bulwinkle> progma: screw nagiograph... use cacti, build templates......
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:50] <mutil8> so you can do more with cacti than zenoss?
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:56] <Bulwinkle> progma: how many interfaces do you really HAVE to graph anyways?
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:57] <mutil8> i've been really impressed so far with what i can do in zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:59] <progma> if server crashes and restarts without you there and the cmos battery is dead
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:06] <progma> the time could be way off
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:11] <progma> Bulwinkle: yup that's what i do
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:15] <progma> mutil8: no, cacti is just an awesome graphing tool
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:28] <progma> i even graph the weather stats
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:32] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: cacti makes MRTG easier that is all
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:55] <progma> dell pe temps, datacenter temps
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:10] <Bulwinkle> progma: is the zenoss upgrade/install process seamless?
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:14] <progma> yes it's still rrdtool but a friendly interface
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:31] <progma> Bulwinkle: all interfaces if possible historical data is important to me
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:39] <progma> also, i'm of the opinion that it can help in forensics
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:46] <Bulwinkle> progma: have you been screwed by an upgrade, no matter how slight?
[07-Oct-2007 05:06:10] <progma> as well as performance tuning
[07-Oct-2007 05:06:23] <progma> Bulwinkle: oh god yes, i'm staying at 0.8.6j i think
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:18] <Bulwinkle> the fact that the whole dev process is screwed is what is keeping me and my corporation on Nagios and Cacti (through countless upgrades flawlessly)
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:36] <Bulwinkle> or lack of a DEV process
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:37] <mutil8> i wish nagios was easier to setup
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:52] <progma> Bulwinkle: wait, do you mean upgrades of cacti or zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:58] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: yeah, send another email to that guy
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:06] <mutil8> haha
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:09] <Bulwinkle> progma: Zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:16] <progma> mutil8: that fruity interface is ok
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:33] <mutil8> groundwork makes it usable, but its sluggish
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:41] <progma> mutil8: but it's fruity lol
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:51] <progma> Bulwinkle: i've only recently gotten into zenoss, first install was 2.0.3 after i finally got all the deps right
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:08] <Bulwinkle> progma: good luck
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:11] <progma> as i was putting it on the same box with zabbix and cacti and needed other mysql deps
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:25] <Bulwinkle> progma: I love what they are trying to do
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:26] <progma> in the shop i'm in now, they just did an upgrade from 2.0.4 to 2.0.6
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:37] <progma> so far everything's ok except for zeneventlog stuff
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:46] <progma> Bulwinkle: yah for free it's freakin awesome
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:18] <progma> esp the autodiscovery and other automagic stuff, and no need for an agent
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:21] <Bulwinkle> progma: wait until your enterprise is depending on it and it goes down
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:44] <progma> but setting up alerting and a structure for doing so is lacking right now
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:45] <Bulwinkle> progma: UPDATE RESUME DUMP
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:07] <mutil8> maybe i should try to get nagios going again
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:09] <Bulwinkle> progma: how many devices do you monitor?
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:37] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: it is the toughest to configure.... but the most solid
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:39] <progma> Bulwinkle: haha if i have to i'll get by with cacti and zabbix and/or nagios until i can get zenoss solid
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:50] <progma> Bulwinkle: so far 238
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:05] <progma> yah nagios doesn't die
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:24] <progma> you basically have to have your own scripts to populate nagios or else something like fruity or nagat
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:28] <Bulwinkle> progma: yeah... I wanted to hand my boss a bill for 450 devices at the low low cost of $40000
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:40] <Bulwinkle> not in our fiscal budget YET
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:49] <mutil8> how do you like zabbix?
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:57] <Bulwinkle> and it isn't until they get their OSS shit together
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:06] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: never used it
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:16] <progma> zabbix suffers from similar config difficulties as nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:36] <Bulwinkle> progma: you have to have a config manager
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:38] <progma> it takes 15 freakin minutes to add one device, and then setup alerting for various conditions
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:42] <progma> is another hour
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:02] <Bulwinkle> progma: depends on how thick you are really
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:13] <progma> Bulwinkle: for zabbix or nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:22] <Bulwinkle> none of them are really that bad....
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:35] <Bulwinkle> they BOTH RUN CONSISTENTLY
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:40] <Bulwinkle> upgrades and all
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:48] <progma> i'm pretty zippy with vi so nagios is not a problem, although the one thing i had issues with (in 1.3) was escalations
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:54] <progma> just couldn't get it working
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:01] <progma> Bulwinkle: true!
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:14] <Bulwinkle> that is the only reason to stay away from ZenOSS
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:17] <Bulwinkle> FREE
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:20] <Bulwinkle> it doesn'
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:22] <Bulwinkle> t
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:25] <progma> no point in quickly discovering your devices if it's going to crash
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:31] <Bulwinkle> run sometimes after upgrades
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:38] <progma> and the biggest issue is the human side - if your team is getting hundreds of alerts an hour, they are going to get numb to hem and not care
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:58] * Bulwinkle understand
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:02] <Bulwinkle> +s
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:12] <progma> right, these guys are a big windows shop and monitoring eventlog stuff is a big deal
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:14] <progma> that part broke in the upgrade
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:18] <progma> everyone's having the same problem with diff causes
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:47] <progma> i'm pretty set on zenoss, though, partly because they are like a 30 min drive from here
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:55] <progma> i think they will make it work though
[07-Oct-2007 05:18:19] <mutil8> so other than upgrade issues, zenoss does what you need it to?
[07-Oct-2007 05:18:32] <mutil8> im not as concerned about upgrade problems
[07-Oct-2007 05:18:43] <progma> another thing i don't like about zabbix is that the web interface has a lot of security holes in it that light up my vuln scans
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:10] <Bulwinkle> Zenoss OSS is NOT primetime
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:13] <mutil8> im going to be running this in a vm environment, and will just clone the VM before i touch, like i do with everything else
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:27] <progma> and it's not as text-file edit friendly as nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:31] <progma> mutil8: that's exactly what we're doing
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:32] <Bulwinkle> it is the playpen of the ZenOSS developers and we suffer for it
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:38] <progma> all our stuff is in vm's anyway
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:59] <progma> Bulwinkle: it's a tradeoff; we get free toys to play with, they get some q&a testing
[07-Oct-2007 05:20:28] <Bulwinkle> progma: would you rely on zenoss oss for your livelyhood?
[07-Oct-2007 05:20:31] <progma> back to the oss thing of, if you see something that's broke, fix/improve it yourself and doc it
[07-Oct-2007 05:20:51] <progma> Bulwinkle: not yet
[07-Oct-2007 05:21:13] <progma> cots stuff like ipmonitor is great for the $
[07-Oct-2007 05:21:24] <progma> heck with hp openview
[07-Oct-2007 05:21:38] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: you have the opinion of two people who are in this channel a GREAT DEAL of the time
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:06] <mutil8> i'll give nagios and cacti another shot i think
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:14] <Bulwinkle> I hope that ZENOSS-LOGGER has this on record and that the ZENOSS corp is on notice
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:17] <mutil8> just incase zenoss gives me a problem
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:27] <progma> Bulwinkle: lol
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:39] <Bulwinkle> has anyone here used HP Openview?
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:45] <progma> mutil8: the vm flexibility really helps; you can just back out the foo
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:53] <progma> Bulwinkle: many years ago
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:02] <mutil8> hmm 'zeneventlog heartbeat failure' is showing up on the dashboard now
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:09] <progma> on hp-ux monitoring mostly hp-ux
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:11] <mutil8> along with 'zenwinmodeler heartbeat failure'
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:16] <mutil8> heh, i used to work for HP
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:18] <progma> mutil8: are you doing any wmi stuff
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:29] <progma> mutil8: check your daemons
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:29] <Bulwinkle> that is why it is no longer a priority for HP.....
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:33] <mutil8> daemons are all up
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:43] <mutil8> and everything im doing now is SNMP
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:53] <mutil8> unless some of the default monitors are using WMI
[07-Oct-2007 05:24:27] <mutil8> i personally wouldn't depend on HP software
[07-Oct-2007 05:24:41] <mutil8> we used to have nothing but problems with any of the HP software we ran
[07-Oct-2007 05:24:49] <progma> you need to modify windows snmp to send eventlog info
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:09] <progma> hp-ux is still solid and runs in a lot of big-iron, as well as gov
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:16] <progma> but it's legacy
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:28] <progma> and very unique and archaic
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:36] <progma> worse than being on solaris 2.5 or something
[07-Oct-2007 05:30:45] <mutil8> progma: let me look up the OID for the battery on these PE 1950's, and i'll try and get a zenpack together for you
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:06] <progma> mutil8: thanks; i'm gonna do an install on an ubuntu box and go to sleep heh
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:28] <mutil8> bah
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:31] <mutil8> put it on debian
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:38] <progma> mutil8: sounds like we have some similar hardware env, so i'll give you feedback
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:41] <mutil8> smaller footprint
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:46] <progma> that is debian lol with non-free
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:57] <mutil8> yeah, i know it's debian
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:12] <mutil8> all i did was add the oid's to chart it under the perf tab
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:16] <mutil8> so nothing fancy
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:25] <mutil8> but feedback would be good
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:31] <progma> is that it?
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:39] <mutil8> what else is there?
[07-Oct-2007 05:34:10] <progma> tresholds and alerting when they trip
[07-Oct-2007 05:34:12] <mutil8> i setup the thresholds and stuff for warnings, and what not
[07-Oct-2007 05:34:58] <progma> another thing is getting used to organizing alerts by syslog level
[07-Oct-2007 05:35:30] <mutil8> heh, my fan charts may be too much
[07-Oct-2007 05:35:36] <mutil8> i have all 16 fans on 1 chart
[07-Oct-2007 05:35:45] <progma> syslog thinks some things are critical but others may not
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:06] <progma> haha wellll if the cpu fans go out, it's critical
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:19] <progma> i didn't bother with the battery until that server crashed
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:23] <mutil8> didn't think there would be 16
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:31] <progma> and it was a mess since it came back up with a date in 2001
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:44] <progma> those are the blades right
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:01] <mutil8> nope
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:02] <progma> the 3U Pedges just have... , well less than 16 heh
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:07] <mutil8> 1950's 1u PE
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:27] <mutil8> i havne't figured out how to get the chassis info yet
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:39] <mutil8> i tried an snmpwalk, and only got like 10 returns
[07-Oct-2007 05:38:43] <progma> what about in the web interface
[07-Oct-2007 05:38:49] <progma> OMSA, i mean
[07-Oct-2007 05:38:59] <mutil8> yeah, i can see them in the web interface for the blade chassis
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:07] <mutil8> the servers themself don't show fans
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:44] <progma> did you subscribe to linux-poweredge
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:51] <mutil8> not yet
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:55] <progma> i don't have access to any of my stuff right now :|
[07-Oct-2007 05:44:52] <mutil8> well, im going to hit the sheets, i'll get this zenpack together for you after i get it all fixed up
[07-Oct-2007 05:51:22] <progma> yah no hurry on that
[07-Oct-2007 05:51:32] <progma> i have to wrap my mind around the concept of a zenpack anyway
[07-Oct-2007 06:40:44] <progma> trying to compile from source, keeps breaking on pycrypto-install
[07-Oct-2007 06:42:17] <progma> must be python issues
[07-Oct-2007 12:07:58] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[07-Oct-2007 15:12:28] <brent1> Hello. I'm a first time user of Zenoss and starting a fresh Ubuntu install right now, will let you know how it goes...
[07-Oct-2007 15:13:13] <progma> brent1: ok; i just got it working in feisty from source
[07-Oct-2007 15:13:41] <brent1> build 7000?
[07-Oct-2007 15:14:38] <brent1> revision 7000 I mean
[07-Oct-2007 15:17:08] <brent1> Here's a question. Our Zenoss server is going to reside in our datacenter, which we are going to be sending SNMP data internally not encrypted.
[07-Oct-2007 15:17:50] <brent1> Any idea on how to ship collected SNMP data from Windows/Cisco Routers/Cisco ASA's over the internet via SSH or SSL?
[07-Oct-2007 15:18:04] <progma> d/l'd it last night
[07-Oct-2007 15:18:21] <progma> why not a vpn
[07-Oct-2007 15:18:42] <progma> i guess you could setup an ssh vpn, but site-to-site ipsec would be the way i'd do it
[07-Oct-2007 15:19:33] <brent1> We manage 25-30 small-medium businesses. We don't want to setup/manage that many tunnels so we're siding not to go with that idea
[07-Oct-2007 15:20:18] <brent1> "Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database..." so far so good...
[07-Oct-2007 15:26:00] <brent1> We've been evaluating several products such as Passler, Hyperic and Zenoss. Hyperic has a agent that ships all the data back over HTTP or HTTPS if you want. I think it posts it to a webservice. I was wondering if Zenoss had anything like that
[07-Oct-2007 15:47:38] <mutil8> if it were me i'd do it over an ssh tunnel
[07-Oct-2007 15:47:47] <progma> brent1: i don't believe it's built-in, no
[07-Oct-2007 15:47:53] <progma> mutil8: yah effectively an ssh vpn
[07-Oct-2007 15:48:00] <mutil8> yep
[07-Oct-2007 15:48:32] <mutil8> i'll be doing that same thing as soon as i get the base server setup
[07-Oct-2007 15:48:56] <mutil8> we'll have about 40 machines in a colo, and 5 at the office, i want a monitor at both places in case 1 goes down
[07-Oct-2007 15:49:06] <mutil8> and i'll probably setup a 3rd monitor at my home
[07-Oct-2007 15:49:54] <mutil8> office to colo will have a point to point vpn, but not my house wont
[07-Oct-2007 16:14:03] <Ahmuck> has anyone installed zenoss on gutsy?
[07-Oct-2007 16:14:37] <brent1> just got my feisty install up and running
[07-Oct-2007 16:15:50] <Ahmuck> i was following the feisty instructions but got an error when attempting "./install.sh"
[07-Oct-2007 16:16:09] <brent1> What was the error?
[07-Oct-2007 16:16:51] <Ahmuck> build-functions.sh: line 239: mysql_config: command not found
[07-Oct-2007 16:16:51] <Ahmuck> You must have a MySQL development environment installed
[07-Oct-2007 16:17:31] <Ahmuck> nm, i got it
[07-Oct-2007 16:18:20] <Ahmuck> well, hrm, ok, i don't
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:00] <mutil8> what is dutsy?
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:12] <mutil8> err gutsy
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:24] <Ahmuck> Couldn't find package "mysql-dev". However, the following
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:24] <Ahmuck> packages contain "mysql-dev" in their name:
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:24] <Ahmuck> libkaya-mysql-dev liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev libghc6-hsql-mysql-dev libgnademysql-dev
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:33] <Ahmuck> gutsy is *buntu's next release
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:37] <mutil8> ah
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:42] <Ahmuck> currently in release canidate
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:01] <Ahmuck> set to go live on the 18th
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:07] <mutil8> http://www.dotdeb.org/mirrors
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:13] <mutil8> add a source from there to your apt sources
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:18] <brent1> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A Write fault occured on the network. (88) any ideas?
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:27] <mutil8> then install mysql-server-5.0 and libmysqlclient15-dev
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:39] <brent1> I think I have to set the windows credentials under zproperties, right?
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:40] <mutil8> brent1: check the password you're using
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:49] <mutil8> yep
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:51] <Ahmuck> yes, i would really like a *.deb of zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:58] <Ahmuck> from ubuntu repositories
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:02] <progma> ^^^
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:37] <mutil8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/installing-zenoss-on-debian-sarge/
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:41] <mutil8> thats a pretty good howto
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Installing Zenoss on Debian (Sarge) - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2007 16:23:56] <Ahmuck> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-ubuntu-7.04/
[07-Oct-2007 16:24:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on Ubuntu 7.04 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2007 16:25:09] <Ahmuck> problem is, zenoss is hardcoded for python 2.4, so moving up forces you to unlink/link etc.
[07-Oct-2007 16:25:41] <Ahmuck> i'm wondering if this is what is happening with the mysql error as well, but *shrugs* i don't know enough about it to tell
[07-Oct-2007 16:26:23] <mutil8> when i installed it on fiesty, i uninstall 2.5, and installed 2.4
[07-Oct-2007 16:27:17] <brent1> How do I get WinService to show up in the OS tab like IP Services?
[07-Oct-2007 16:28:06] <Ahmuck> yes, but i need 2.5
[07-Oct-2007 16:28:20] <Ahmuck> hrm, i wonder if the tar is different than the svn
[07-Oct-2007 16:47:33] <progma> Ahmuck: svn is more current (and also potentially more unstable)
[07-Oct-2007 16:47:41] <Ahmuck> the howto needs to be editied or for gutsy, libmysql++-dev needs to be added to get 2.2.8 or svn to install
[07-Oct-2007 16:47:57] <Ahmuck> adding that lib allows the install to comlete
[07-Oct-2007 16:54:39] <Eeyore-Jr> i couldn't help but notice that zenoss is installing, nagios, rrdtool, etc.
[07-Oct-2007 16:54:53] <Eeyore-Jr> so, what exatly is zenoss, a gui for those tools?
[07-Oct-2007 16:55:18] <progma> Eeyore-Jr: the nagios part is just support for nagios plugins
[07-Oct-2007 16:55:26] <progma> Eeyore-Jr: but it needs rrdtool for graphing
[07-Oct-2007 16:56:10] <Eeyore-Jr> is it possible that those can be installed by the distro? is zenoss installing these in it's place of choice or according to distro rules or genreally?
[07-Oct-2007 16:56:54] <Eeyore-Jr> i guess the question should be, if zenoss is installing those tools, will they be setup and in different directories other than how my distro would set it up?
[07-Oct-2007 16:58:39] <progma> i've put zenoss on machines with cacti, nagios and zabbix already installed; i'm not sure yet what automagic zenoss does to incorporate existing installs of things like rrdtool, snmp and syslog but so far it hasn't broke my existing installs of those
[07-Oct-2007 17:02:59] <Eeyore-Jr> k, is zenoss like cacti or different?
[07-Oct-2007 17:05:54] <progma> Eeyore-Jr: it's more of a comprehensive monitoring package than just a graphing tool
[07-Oct-2007 17:21:24] <Eeyore-Jr> so is anybody here using it on feisty?
[07-Oct-2007 17:23:56] <brent1> I am
[07-Oct-2007 17:43:25] <Eeyore-Jr> brent1: well, it's started, but is there supposed to be a gui?
[07-Oct-2007 17:46:14] <brent1> I need to install zenwin on my Windows 2003 boxes, right?
[07-Oct-2007 18:15:00] <mutil8> no, you don't have to install anything on the 2k3 boxes
[07-Oct-2007 18:15:11] <mutil8> just make sure snmp is setup properly on them
[07-Oct-2007 18:15:35] <mutil8> Eeyore-Jr: you get to the GUI at http://<zenoss machine>:8080
[07-Oct-2007 18:29:04] <Ahmuck> mutil8: yep, found it
[07-Oct-2007 21:31:11] <progma> mutil8: what about eventlog
[07-Oct-2007 21:32:05] <brent1> is my zope username and password the same as the regular admin login?
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[07-Oct-2007 23:00:59] <rfoust> hmm i'm still not quite understanding how to manage/use wmi in zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 23:01:43] <brent1> I am still trying to figure that out. I've been installing SNMP Informant, putting in proper credentials in the zProperties. I get HD, NIC, CPU, etc populated but no Windows services
[07-Oct-2007 23:04:37] <rfoust> so i guess there should be a WMI modeling plugin?
[07-Oct-2007 23:04:48] <rfoust> maybe we have to buy that
[07-Oct-2007 23:06:39] <rfoust> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11020
[07-Oct-2007 23:06:46] <rfoust> that's the most helpful thing I've found so far
[07-Oct-2007 23:06:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenWin: Getting more out of WMI (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2007 23:13:14] <rfoust> so in the free version, we have to do it the hard way, apparently
[07-Oct-2007 23:17:33] <brent1> well, I'm trying to get zenwin installed
[07-Oct-2007 23:18:01] <brent1> that should send windows service status to Zenoss, right?
[07-Oct-2007 23:18:39] <rfoust> not sure..
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[08-Oct-2007 00:33:32] <rfoust> brent1: figured it out... you just have to install the standard version of snmp-informant. Now I can see the services that I've selected to monitor in the "Services" thingy on the left panel.
[08-Oct-2007 00:33:57] <rfoust> (I already had the advanced version of Informant installed, but it uses different OIDs than the free version
[08-Oct-2007 02:46:24] <brent1> rfoust: I've set some items in WinService to true, but they don't get monitored
[08-Oct-2007 02:47:57] <brent1> all my IP Services show up ok. smtp, domain, http, etc
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[08-Oct-2007 07:17:09] <dgoogle> Has anyone had any luck finding the pre-compiled zenoss for Solaris 10?
[08-Oct-2007 11:27:35] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[08-Oct-2007 11:27:43] <imperfect-> Zenoss has decided to it likes to stop collecting data
[08-Oct-2007 11:52:21] <Freak> imperfect-: check wether all daemons are still running, if they dont, restart and recheck after a few seconds. if they dont start, check the log.
[08-Oct-2007 11:52:24] <Freak> hth.
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:24] <imperfect-> well
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:29] <imperfect-> They all appear to be working
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:37] <imperfect-> it's just like it stopped getting info
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:38] <imperfect-> Tho
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:46] <imperfect-> I am finding that the snmp get on one of my switches i like
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:48] <imperfect-> hanging
[08-Oct-2007 11:55:01] <imperfect-> and when I try to remodel or somehting it'll say 234234234seconds
[08-Oct-2007 12:18:59] <Freak> what does "IP Address 10.253.4.1/22" mean?
[08-Oct-2007 12:19:37] <Freak> I mean.. what does the /22 want to say for an _address_?
[08-Oct-2007 12:19:54] <Freak> like.. not a network but a single address?
[08-Oct-2007 14:04:50] <xoritor> good morning
[08-Oct-2007 14:12:05] <xoritor> ok, so i populated my information about what OS, hardware, etc... last week and when i came back in this morning its gone
[08-Oct-2007 14:12:07] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 14:12:14] <xoritor> thats very odd
[08-Oct-2007 14:17:36] <jp10558> I'm sort of cross posting here, but I wondered if anyone knows a good way to monitor Samba shares on a Linux server to make sure that users (well, one "service" user) can log in? Not that Samba is running, but that a browse/login succeeds?
[08-Oct-2007 14:18:21] <xoritor> jp10558: i dont really understand what your trying to do
[08-Oct-2007 14:18:44] <xoritor> just make sure that a remote user can login and get a dir listing?
[08-Oct-2007 14:20:20] <xoritor> smbclient //host.domain.tld/share -U username
[08-Oct-2007 14:20:27] <xoritor> that could be the start of it
[08-Oct-2007 14:20:40] <xoritor> or even easier if you really want
[08-Oct-2007 14:21:17] <jp10558> that looks like it
[08-Oct-2007 14:21:29] <jp10558> I guess I just don't know how to make Zenoss do that, and send an alert if it fails
[08-Oct-2007 14:21:44] <jp10558> You know, as part of normal monitoring of the device
[08-Oct-2007 14:22:16] <xoritor> make a credentials file someplace zenoss can access it and make sure its only readable by root:zenoss (640) then "mount -o credentials=/path/to/your/file //servername/sharename /mnt && ls /mnt "
[08-Oct-2007 14:22:49] <xoritor> once you figure out how to script it you should be able to make a "user command" and tie that to an event
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:07] <jp10558> ok - and then I can have Zenoss run the command every time it polls?
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:11] <xoritor> yep
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:12] <jp10558> and generate an event?
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:15] <xoritor> yep
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:20] <xoritor> should be that easy
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:28] <xoritor> dont forget to umount
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:57] <xoritor> if your going to mount and forget the umount you will prolly fairly quickly have lots of stale mounts
[08-Oct-2007 14:24:00] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 14:24:11] <xoritor> you could use the smbclient too... no mount needed
[08-Oct-2007 14:24:39] <jp10558> how do I tie it to an event
[08-Oct-2007 14:37:01] <fiXXXerMet> If I want to the event log for a service that is running on one of my windows boxes (Backup Exec), do I add it to /Services or /Processes?
[08-Oct-2007 14:40:58] <jp10558> I expect it depends
[08-Oct-2007 14:41:39] <jp10558> fiXXXerMet: for services in Windows, I would not add it so much as set monitor to true
[08-Oct-2007 14:43:41] <fiXXXerMet> jp10558: Well the services isn't listed in Zenoss yet
[08-Oct-2007 14:45:10] <jp10558> do you have WMI working properly?
[08-Oct-2007 14:45:20] <jp10558> Does WinServices show up at all?
[08-Oct-2007 14:45:49] <fiXXXerMet> On some devices, yes
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:38] <jp10558> Do you have the desired device in /Server/Windows?
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:46] <fiXXXerMet> Yes
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:53] <fiXXXerMet> Well, no
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:56] <jp10558> if so, try unchecking monitored
[08-Oct-2007 14:47:04] <fiXXXerMet> I'm using my own class schema
[08-Oct-2007 14:47:26] <jp10558> Do you have zWmiIgnore set to false?
[08-Oct-2007 14:48:03] <fiXXXerMet> It was set to true
[08-Oct-2007 14:48:17] <fiXXXerMet> zWmiMonitorIgnore
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:18] <jp10558> Set it to false
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:27] <jp10558> then it will use WMI to poll services
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:39] <jp10558> and then you'll see them in WinServices - after 10-15 minutes anyway
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:54] <jp10558> ohh, but make sure you do have the proper zWinUser etc
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:54] <jp10558> set
[08-Oct-2007 14:51:45] <fiXXXerMet> I just set this for /
[08-Oct-2007 14:51:54] <fiXXXerMet> And it should inherit to the classes under?
[08-Oct-2007 15:01:54] <jp10558> it will, but you don't want it doing this for all computers
[08-Oct-2007 15:02:00] <jp10558> i.e. not for linux machines
[08-Oct-2007 15:02:16] <jp10558> xoritor: how would I pass back login results?
[08-Oct-2007 15:04:11] <xoritor> jp10558: just check the return value
[08-Oct-2007 15:04:28] <xoritor> if the return value = 0 then it was successful
[08-Oct-2007 15:04:45] <xoritor> anything greater than 0 is a failure
[08-Oct-2007 15:05:15] <xoritor> jp10558: for the mount or the smbclient?
[08-Oct-2007 15:06:07] <xoritor> well... either way run $COMMAND && echo $?
[08-Oct-2007 15:06:26] <xoritor> you will see that $? always has the return value for the command (in bash anyways)
[08-Oct-2007 15:07:37] <xoritor> zenoss should get the success/failure info from that (not 100% sure about that)
[08-Oct-2007 15:08:17] <jp10558> so I don't type this directly into the Zenoss interface?
[08-Oct-2007 15:08:34] <jp10558> IE smbclient //machine/share -U foo%pass -c exit
[08-Oct-2007 15:08:46] <jp10558> for the user command
[08-Oct-2007 15:13:54] <xoritor> sure
[08-Oct-2007 15:13:57] <xoritor> that works
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:00] <xoritor> should work
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:22] <xoritor> and zenoss should check the success/failure by ehcking the return code of that command
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:40] <xoritor> you can do that at the command line with this: smbclient //machine/share -U foo%pass -c exit && echo $?
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:50] <xoritor> err
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:58] <xoritor> s/&&/;/
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:59] <xoritor> ;-)
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:00] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:11] <xoritor> smbclient //machine/share -U foo%pass -c exit ; echo $?
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:30] <xoritor> the first one would only give you the return code if it was successful
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:31] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 15:16:14] <xoritor> dont put the echo $? in the command for zenoss as that will always return 0 so it would never show zenoss an exit code other than 0
[08-Oct-2007 15:16:20] <xoritor> so you would never get a failure
[08-Oct-2007 15:16:21] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:00] <jp10558> So I've added this as a data collector template
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:05] <jp10558> is that where it should go?
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:48] <jp10558> '/Templates /Commands /SMBCheck'
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:52] <jp10558> as it were
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:58] <jp10558> and set it up as an absolute?
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:00] <jp10558> not a gauge?
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:32] <xoritor> hmm
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:35] <xoritor> im guessing...
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:41] <xoritor> i couldnt 100% tell you there
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:47] <xoritor> sorry
[08-Oct-2007 15:24:25] <jp10558> Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/ - Code: 126 - Msg: Command invoked cannot execute, permissions problem or command is not an executable
[08-Oct-2007 15:24:29] <jp10558> hmmm, that's what I got
[08-Oct-2007 15:24:40] <jp10558> not so happy, permissions are ok as far as we can tell ?
[08-Oct-2007 15:25:30] <jp10558> smbclient //server/share -U luser%smb4VPN -c exit; echo $$?
[08-Oct-2007 15:25:33] <jp10558> is the command
[08-Oct-2007 15:25:43] <jp10558> did I screw this up?
[08-Oct-2007 15:27:29] <xoritor> hmm
[08-Oct-2007 15:27:31] <xoritor> i dunno
[08-Oct-2007 15:28:20] <xoritor> did you try it at the command line?
[08-Oct-2007 15:29:55] <jp10558> it does work at the command line
[08-Oct-2007 15:30:16] <xoritor> im not 100% sure then
[08-Oct-2007 15:30:21] <jp10558> ok
[08-Oct-2007 15:30:27] <xoritor> i have never tried to do that myself
[08-Oct-2007 15:32:40] <jp10558> to the forum!
[08-Oct-2007 16:16:57] <brent1> I just got zenoss up and running (release 7000), I've installed snmp informant, configured SNMP and entered the proper credentials under zProperties. On every server zeneventlog is showing up with a red dot and I do not get any Windows services shown
[08-Oct-2007 16:17:00] <brent1> What should I be checking?
[08-Oct-2007 16:31:21] <mutil8> whats the error message?
[08-Oct-2007 16:32:34] <mutil8> Virtual disk degraded: Virtual Disk 0 (Virtual Disk 0) Controller 0 (CERC SATA 1.5/6ch)
[08-Oct-2007 16:32:37] <mutil8> uh oh!
[08-Oct-2007 16:32:41] <mutil8> guess i should fix that
[08-Oct-2007 16:46:40] <progma> mutil8: hi
[08-Oct-2007 16:46:43] <mutil8> sup
[08-Oct-2007 16:47:58] <mutil8> progma: any of your poweredge boxes using that controller? (CERC SATA 1.5/6ch)
[08-Oct-2007 16:48:17] <progma> mutil8: nope, all percs
[08-Oct-2007 16:48:51] <mutil8> i'll never use these controllers again
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:09] <mutil8> between the 4 boxes i have using them, i've probably gone through 8-10
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:13] <mutil8> in the last 12-18 months
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:47] <progma> wow
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:54] <progma> what kind of storage, powervaults
[08-Oct-2007 16:50:11] <mutil8> they're all in just poweredge servers we have
[08-Oct-2007 16:50:42] <mutil8> i just need to keep them running another 2-3 months, they're going to be replaced in our next round of buying
[08-Oct-2007 16:52:31] <mutil8> such a pain though
[08-Oct-2007 16:53:45] <progma> haven't had any real problems with any of the percs , just certain powervaults with maxtor drives
[08-Oct-2007 16:56:03] <mutil8> this perticular machine that i just got the warning from is running maxtors i believe
[08-Oct-2007 16:56:20] <mutil8> but i have another one with WD Raptors that just recently failed as well
[08-Oct-2007 16:56:46] <progma> be sure to update the firmware on the maxtors
[08-Oct-2007 16:57:17] <progma> i had one logical vol spread over 2 powervaults/4 logical drives with raid 5
[08-Oct-2007 16:57:46] <progma> 2 drives failed at the same time on one vault due to some oversensitivity that a firmware update fixed
[08-Oct-2007 16:58:21] <progma> was able to get it all back but you can imagine how much fun i had
[08-Oct-2007 16:59:12] <mutil8> i'll have to check my firmware versions
[08-Oct-2007 16:59:23] <mutil8> and i can imagine that was a long day
[08-Oct-2007 17:00:45] <progma> brent1: can you snmpwalk the windows machines
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:21] <mutil8> progma: you have any PE1800's?
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:30] <mutil8> im just about done with all my data points for the 1800's
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:42] <mutil8> i'll get to the 1950's and 1955's after these
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:47] <mutil8> if you want those zenpacks
[08-Oct-2007 17:09:00] <brent1> Can Zenoss send a HTTP "ping" to a website to see if it is up and running?
[08-Oct-2007 17:13:12] <mutil8> sure
[08-Oct-2007 17:13:23] <mutil8> IP Service under OS
[08-Oct-2007 17:14:05] <brent1> like, can the Zenoss server go out to www.google.com and test to make sure it is up?
[08-Oct-2007 17:16:27] <brent1> I guess I am looking to monitor via ICMP request/replies
[08-Oct-2007 17:17:17] <mutil8> hmm
[08-Oct-2007 17:17:24] <mutil8> not sure on that one
[08-Oct-2007 17:22:47] <jp10558> Well, when you add a device, you could, instead of monitoring with SNMP, select ping monitoring
[08-Oct-2007 17:23:01] <kgoedtel> or, use check_ping nagios plugin
[08-Oct-2007 17:38:39] <brent1> kgoedtel: is that a "zenpack" addon or something?
[08-Oct-2007 17:39:11] <brent1> Under Discovery Protocol I have snmp or none
[08-Oct-2007 17:39:11] <kgoedtel> it could be if you made it one
[08-Oct-2007 17:40:43] <brent1> I think I found it. I changed Device Class Path to /Ping
[08-Oct-2007 17:58:31] <jp10558> is there a way to have Zenoss check the path rather than use the absolute path to commands in a command?
[08-Oct-2007 17:59:59] <progma> mutil8: i don't think we have pe 1*** but i'd love to check out the zenpack anyway
[08-Oct-2007 18:02:09] <mutil8> k, i gotta figure out how to get this into a zenpack that's usable by others
[08-Oct-2007 18:02:29] <mutil8> i made the mistake of setting up the template on 1 machine, and i have no idea how to get it so i can use it on others
[08-Oct-2007 18:06:15] <progma> me either
[08-Oct-2007 18:07:49] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[08-Oct-2007 18:08:04] <progma> trying to figure out how disable monitoring of a drive for a bunch of servers; i'm just going in the os tab of each device
[08-Oct-2007 18:08:44] <brent1> how do I change the FQDN that zenoss is emailing out as? zenossuser_admin@ubuntu1.clientserver.local - it picked up the domain name of one of my client servers
[08-Oct-2007 18:09:53] <progma> brent1: top right, "Preferences", "Edit" tab, "Email"
[08-Oct-2007 18:10:48] <brent1> ah, easy. it was blank
[08-Oct-2007 18:25:25] <jp10558> IS there a way to change what is in the SUMMARY for an event?
[08-Oct-2007 18:25:53] <jp10558> Specifically, instead of:
[08-Oct-2007 18:25:53] <jp10558> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[08-Oct-2007 18:26:09] <jp10558> something more meaningful like:
[08-Oct-2007 18:26:09] <jp10558> Failed to connect to SAMBA share.
[08-Oct-2007 19:39:13] <progma> for the zWinUser, what's the least amount of privileges required - i don't want to use a domain admin account for wmi
[08-Oct-2007 19:49:37] <jp10558> progma: unfortunately, they need administrative level access for it to work
[08-Oct-2007 20:06:42] <progma> jp10558: no way to setup a custom AD group that grants required privs? i guess if there was, you would say so eh
[08-Oct-2007 20:11:08] <brent1> If I have remote sites with Cisco PIXes and ASA's, can Zenoss SSH into them and pull performance and other data?
[08-Oct-2007 20:12:20] <kgoedtel> why not use snmp?
[08-Oct-2007 20:13:03] <brent1> wouldn't it be unencrypted?
[08-Oct-2007 20:13:23] <brent1> if I had the PIX/ASA send SNMP data from the outside interface, over the internet into my Zenoss box?
[08-Oct-2007 20:18:15] <kgoedtel> i suppose that would be a concern and pix/asa dont have v3 snmo anyhow... but the answer to using ssh is: not easily
[08-Oct-2007 20:18:21] <kgoedtel> snmp*
[08-Oct-2007 20:19:29] <brent1> heh thought so
[08-Oct-2007 20:20:35] <brent1> another question, is there an easy way to add a avail graph to /Devices/Ping ?
[08-Oct-2007 20:21:06] <kgoedtel> not sure what you mean
[08-Oct-2007 20:22:23] <brent1> There are graphs for CPU, Memory, etc. I want a performance graph where the x is time and the y is availiable (0 not, 1 yes). It's a pretty graph for the execs to view (heh_
[08-Oct-2007 20:22:45] <brent1> or have it where the y is the ping time
[08-Oct-2007 20:23:10] <brent1> yeah, having the y as the ping time (ms) would be better
[08-Oct-2007 20:23:14] <kgoedtel> yeh you could do ping if you made a zenpack or used a command
[08-Oct-2007 20:23:36] <kgoedtel> you need to get the value into a data source somehow
[08-Oct-2007 20:24:13] <brent1> I added the IP using the /Ping Device Class
[08-Oct-2007 20:24:22] <brent1> does that run regular pings to the IP?
[08-Oct-2007 20:24:35] <dschrock> you are looking for something similar to smokeping then?
[08-Oct-2007 20:25:10] <brent1> ah, yes that is what I am looking to accomplish
[08-Oct-2007 20:25:15] <kgoedtel> yah regular icmp pings, but doesnt store a delay in a data source
[08-Oct-2007 20:25:22] <kgoedtel> so nothing to graph
[08-Oct-2007 20:26:14] <dschrock> as of right now, you will need to roll your own... i've been periodically bugging the devs to add this functionality, but the built-in ping is asynchronous and not useful for response-time tests
[08-Oct-2007 20:26:54] <dschrock> i was toying with using fping and setting up data sources to create my own smokeping... i just haven't gotten around to it yet
[08-Oct-2007 20:27:28] <brent1> so currently if the ping does not return and turns red, I can have it throw a email to me, right?
[08-Oct-2007 20:28:09] <dschrock> yes... it should do that by default
[08-Oct-2007 20:28:23] <dschrock> if the alerting is set up...
[08-Oct-2007 20:28:28] <brent1> ok, thanks
[08-Oct-2007 20:32:02] <brent1> Here's another question. I have SMTP/25 enabled into a foriegn network. My goal is to test email services by getting a "220" or something else spit back. Can I modify the /Ping class to perform this or should I see about modifying the Nagios Plugin that can look for text on a website?
[08-Oct-2007 20:32:33] <brent1> so, checking remotly for a responce on port 25
[08-Oct-2007 20:40:04] <dschrock> nagios plugin is probably your best bet
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[08-Oct-2007 22:33:50] <jerris> Anyone looking to have mercy on a noob?
[08-Oct-2007 22:41:51] <mutil8> what's the problem?
[08-Oct-2007 23:10:47] <jerris> I downloaded and ran the VMWare images (2.0.6, 2.0.91, 2.0.92) of Zenoss on a Linux VMWare server. When I try to manually add a Windows system, it thinks for a while, then comes back with no results. There are no errors, it just doesn't add it. It works just fine adding routers and Linux or Unix systems.
[08-Oct-2007 23:11:20] <jerris> I know that the SNMP service is running as OpenManage (Dell's monitoring software) and GFI (another network monitoring solution) both use it and they're working fine. I've also manually checked to make sure the service was installed and running.
[08-Oct-2007 23:11:29] <mutil8> snmp isn't enabled or setup properly on the windows boxes then
[08-Oct-2007 23:11:44] <mutil8> did you add your host IP to the access list on the windows boxes?
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:00] <jerris> ?
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:04] <jerris> Let me check.
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:16] <mutil8> go to services on the machine, then snmp service
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:21] <mutil8> traps
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:31] <mutil8> you need the community name, and trap destination
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:41] <mutil8> destination should be hostname or IP of your zenoss machine
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:52] <mutil8> then for security i checked 'send authentication trap'
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:08] <mutil8> make sure you have the correct community name under accepted community names
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:21] <mutil8> then i also had to add the host under 'accept snmp packets from these hosts'
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:28] <mutil8> restart snmp server
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:30] <jerris> Would I just use "public" for the community name?
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:33] <mutil8> and install snmp informant if you want some real info
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:36] <mutil8> i just used public
[08-Oct-2007 23:14:02] <jerris> Well, after I get a connection, I figure I can use WMI.
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:04] <mutil8> said you're running dell's?
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:15] <jerris> yup
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:18] <mutil8> what models?
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:24] <mutil8> i have 1800's, 1950's, and 1955's
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:30] <mutil8> i should have zenpacks out for all of them in a day or 2
[08-Oct-2007 23:16:59] <mutil8> or if you want to do it yourself, i can point you in the right direction for the OID's to pull info from OMSA
[08-Oct-2007 23:18:41] <jerris> mostly 850s 950s 1850s 1950s 2850's 2950s
[08-Oct-2007 23:18:54] <mutil8> well i can help you on the 1950's
[08-Oct-2007 23:18:58] <jerris>
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:00] <mutil8> should be pretty much the same
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:06] <mutil8> may have more or less of certain things
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:17] <mutil8> my 1950's have 16 fans i monitor, and 2 temps
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:18] <jerris> Sure, any help would be awesome.
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:26] <mutil8> 1800's have 2 fans, and 6 temps
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:32] <mutil8> but they all start at the same base OID
[08-Oct-2007 23:21:22] <jerris> I just verified that that was the problem. I'm able to detect that one Windows host now. I'll have to make a group policy to change the rest.
[08-Oct-2007 23:21:47] <jerris> Where are the Zenpacks going to be located?
[08-Oct-2007 23:22:17] <mutil8> i'll put them up somewhere, probably post them to the forum if i get a chance in the next day or 2
[08-Oct-2007 23:22:36] <mutil8> otherwise im in here all the time, and i can just send them to you
[08-Oct-2007 23:23:08] <mutil8> i've never made a zenpack before, so i want to setup a test zenoss server to try importing them with before i release them
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:00] <jerris> I'll look into making a few too for our other Dell servers.
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:06] <jerris> Thanks for the help man...
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:09] <mutil8> no problem
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:15] <mutil8> im using 2.0.6
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:29] <mutil8> and had an issue with the 64 bit servers needing the username to be all lowercase
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:34] <mutil8> not sure if that was 2.0.6 specific
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:44] <mutil8> and it wasn't a problem on my 32 bit servers
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:09] <mutil8> another person that was in here had the same problem, so it's something to consider if you run into a WMI problem
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:09] <jerris> I asked this same question in the forum, mind if I copy some of this conversation and post it in there so if anyone else has the same problem, it'll be there?
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:18] <mutil8> nope, go ahead
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:25] <jerris> thanks again.
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:32] <mutil8> yep
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:46] <mutil8> i personally use all caps domain name, and all lowercase username
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:53] <mutil8> and haven't had a problem since i started doing it that way
[08-Oct-2007 23:26:18] <jerris> good to know.
[08-Oct-2007 23:44:32] <dgoogle> Anyone running core 2.1 on Solaris 10?
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[09-Oct-2007 10:09:56] <Merciless> Morning all
[09-Oct-2007 11:00:14] <progma> morning
[09-Oct-2007 11:01:56] <Merciless> late reply but hey
[09-Oct-2007 11:01:56] <Merciless>
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[09-Oct-2007 11:44:50] <incorrect> hello, where can i get mib's from to load into zenoss?
[09-Oct-2007 11:50:44] <progma> incorrect: depends; the equipment vendor sometimes provides
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:03] <incorrect> i once found a repository of mibs
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:08] <incorrect> i just can't remember the URL
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:21] <progma> incorrect: what's the equipment you need it for
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:35] <incorrect> hp procurves and cisco pix
[09-Oct-2007 11:52:03] <progma> hmm be careful enabling snmp on the pix
[09-Oct-2007 11:52:24] <progma> no idea what procurves is
[09-Oct-2007 11:53:27] <incorrect> why do you say that about pix?
[09-Oct-2007 11:54:10] <progma> because it's a firewall, you want to be extra careful about your snmp config
[09-Oct-2007 11:54:49] <incorrect> yes, i just thought for a second you were going to tell me that it was likely to crash it or something
[09-Oct-2007 11:56:03] <incorrect> ah mib depot
[09-Oct-2007 12:10:41] <incorrect> if i wanted to return lists of installed software from redhat via snmp to zenoss, i assume i need to exec a remote script or something?
[09-Oct-2007 12:11:56] <Merciless> pfft
[09-Oct-2007 12:12:02] <Merciless> no one's replied on my zenoss forum post yet lol
[09-Oct-2007 12:12:10] <Merciless> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3434 <--- need an expert!
[09-Oct-2007 12:12:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Various Problems (WMI, Custom Mib's and thresholds..) (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Oct-2007 12:35:43] <Merciless> and it goes silent again
[09-Oct-2007 12:35:45] <Merciless> oops
[09-Oct-2007 13:48:46] <Merciless> pfft
[09-Oct-2007 13:48:50] <Merciless> so much for an active zenoss community
[09-Oct-2007 13:48:51] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 13:57:55] <incorrect> no one here but just chickens
[09-Oct-2007 14:00:53] <Merciless> aye
[09-Oct-2007 14:00:54] <Merciless> crazy!
[09-Oct-2007 14:01:02] <Merciless> I really need help too!
[09-Oct-2007 14:02:20] <incorrect> i read your post, i don't know what could be wrong
[09-Oct-2007 14:03:03] <incorrect> if you plugged in a laptop and snmpwalked the systems, does that give back the same issues?
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:13] <Merciless> thats the weird thing
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:16] <Merciless> snmp for that mib works fine
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:26] <Merciless> but creating a threshold based on the output doesnt
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:28] <Merciless> confusing as hell lol
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:01] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/detail.html
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:09] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere's MIB Download Area (at www.oidview.com)
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:21] <Merciless> ?
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:26] <Robbadub> Has the most complete MIB database
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:33] <Merciless> i dont need a mib database
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:47] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:47] <Robbadub> For mr.incorrect earlier on
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:50] <Merciless> oooooo
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:51] <Merciless> hes left
[09-Oct-2007 14:10:01] <Merciless> and someone recommended him mib deopt i think which is def the best
[09-Oct-2007 14:10:29] <Robbadub> thanks
[09-Oct-2007 14:10:35] <Robbadub> where is MIB depot?
[09-Oct-2007 14:11:06] <Robbadub> found the lik
[09-Oct-2007 14:11:09] <Robbadub> link
[09-Oct-2007 14:12:33] <Robbadub> Did not find the link
[09-Oct-2007 14:12:39] <Robbadub> Can you repost pls
[09-Oct-2007 14:12:58] <Robbadub> found it
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:39] <Merciless> lol
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:39] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:43] <Merciless> google is your friend
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:44] <Robbadub> hehehe
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:50] <Robbadub> sometimes
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:54] <adytum-bot> http://www.maui.net/~zen_gtr/zgzinepg4.html
[09-Oct-2007 14:14:45] <Merciless> ^^ random
[09-Oct-2007 14:28:39] <progma> ditto re: MIB depot
[09-Oct-2007 14:29:06] <Merciless> but once again no one can help me on my other problems
[09-Oct-2007 14:51:49] <Robbadub> No?
[09-Oct-2007 14:51:56] <Robbadub> That's unpleasant
[09-Oct-2007 14:53:18] <Robbadub> Have you tried relationship coaching?
[09-Oct-2007 14:53:26] <Robbadub> Viagra?
[09-Oct-2007 15:04:15] <kgoedtel> does anyone know how to create a threshold using an snmp data source?
[09-Oct-2007 15:08:51] <progma> how do i disable alerting on a service in /events/status/ipservices
[09-Oct-2007 15:12:14] <Merciless> you go onto the device and then click on the ipservice in the os tab and set monitoring to false
[09-Oct-2007 15:15:17] <progma> events are still coming up in the event console though, even after disabling it that way
[09-Oct-2007 15:18:53] <Merciless> did u acknoledge them and move them to history?
[09-Oct-2007 15:19:08] <Merciless> dont remove them from the os tab.. just disable monitoring on them
[09-Oct-2007 15:19:48] <progma> how do move them to history
[09-Oct-2007 15:20:12] <Merciless> in event console click the checkbox, then in the drop down menu move to history
[09-Oct-2007 15:20:20] <Merciless> checkbox next to the alerts that is
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:06] <progma> ok, got some new ones
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:38] <progma> after i moved the ack'd ones to history
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:49] <Merciless> oh
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:50] <Merciless> that sucks
[09-Oct-2007 15:32:10] <Merciless> so you click on the device in the alert.. and click the hardware tab.. anything listed under ipservices?
[09-Oct-2007 15:34:38] <progma> if i click on the device and go to the OS tab, smtp is not listed as an IP service
[09-Oct-2007 15:37:25] <Merciless> what if you untick monitored
[09-Oct-2007 15:37:27] <Merciless> is it listed then?
[09-Oct-2007 15:40:37] <progma> let me get back to you on that - thx for the info
[09-Oct-2007 15:42:57] <Merciless> np
[09-Oct-2007 16:33:43] <eurowerke> howdy ya'll
[09-Oct-2007 16:33:50] <eurowerke>
[09-Oct-2007 16:34:18] <eurowerke> for some reason, whenever I try to log in to zenoss, on the first login attempt it fails, then it works on the second time
[09-Oct-2007 16:34:21] <eurowerke> anyone have any clue?
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:00] <eurowerke> it does this whenever I come back in after closing the browser window, so I'm thinking maybe something is up with the session
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:05] <eurowerke> if I logout then log back in, it works fine
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:48] <eurowerke> http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=503231
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:51] <eurowerke> whoops
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:57] <eurowerke> !
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[09-Oct-2007 16:40:15] <xoritor> good morning
[09-Oct-2007 18:16:47] <mutil8> anybody monitoring an IBM SAN?
[09-Oct-2007 18:17:00] <mutil8> DS3000 series specifically, but i'll take info on any of them
[09-Oct-2007 18:42:03] <xoritor> anyone here have an issue with loosing the OS/HW information stored for the devices?
[09-Oct-2007 18:42:34] <xoritor> ie... OS Vendor OS Version HW Vendor etc..
[09-Oct-2007 18:42:52] <xoritor> I can populate them then a few hours later they are blank
[09-Oct-2007 18:50:41] <mutil8> nope
[09-Oct-2007 18:50:56] <mutil8> are they grabbing that info from SNMP any way?
[09-Oct-2007 18:51:01] <mutil8> i know dells feed some of that info
[09-Oct-2007 18:51:39] <xoritor> no
[09-Oct-2007 18:51:48] <xoritor> let me check the dell systems real fast
[09-Oct-2007 18:52:19] <xoritor> hmm
[09-Oct-2007 18:52:27] <xoritor> the dell systems are actually populated
[09-Oct-2007 18:52:31] <xoritor> interesting
[09-Oct-2007 18:53:18] <xoritor> so i guess i either need to figure out how to make snmp give that data up, or tell zenoss not to "read" it from the remote systems and wipe out my hand entered data
[09-Oct-2007 18:53:25] <xoritor> thx for that... didnt think of it
[09-Oct-2007 18:58:34] <mutil8> np
[09-Oct-2007 19:05:17] <xoritor> hmm i dunno
[09-Oct-2007 19:18:54] <mutil8> my PE1800's fill in serial number, hw model, os version
[09-Oct-2007 19:19:04] <mutil8> they leave hw manufacturer as unknown, as well as os manufacturer
[09-Oct-2007 19:25:58] <jp10558> Hmmm
[09-Oct-2007 19:26:53] <jp10558> Is there a way to set up (maybe a default?) that if you get a "Device is down" event, you don't need events/alerts that the SNMP service, SMTP service, etc... is down?
[09-Oct-2007 19:52:57] <xoritor> what snmp oid brings back the values used in HW Make
[09-Oct-2007 19:53:10] <xoritor> and HW Model
[09-Oct-2007 19:53:14] <xoritor> etc...
[09-Oct-2007 20:56:15] <mutil8> xoritor: let me take a look, i'll see if i can dig it up
[09-Oct-2007 20:57:32] <mutil8> 1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.300.10.1.9.1 is HW Model
[09-Oct-2007 20:57:49] <mutil8> 1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.300.10.1.11.1 is Serial Number
[09-Oct-2007 20:59:24] <mutil8> atleast on my PE1800
[09-Oct-2007 21:29:39] <davetoo> Feh. py-rrdtool's first() function is b0rked.
[09-Oct-2007 21:30:15] <davetoo> It won't let you specify which rra to look at, which means you always get the first sample in the highest-resolution, shortest-term RRA.
[09-Oct-2007 21:30:28] <davetoo> Does nothing to tell you how "full" the rrd is or not.
[09-Oct-2007 21:30:59] <davetoo> I'm trying to write a script to eliminate duplicates and I need to choose the "best" device to keep.
[09-Oct-2007 21:31:12] <davetoo> maybe rrd data isn't the way
[09-Oct-2007 21:34:42] <davetoo> This is not as easy to automate as I'd hoped
[09-Oct-2007 21:41:44] <kgoedtel> what do you mean by "It won't let you specify which rra to look at"
[09-Oct-2007 21:49:21] <davetoo> The command-line invocation is "rrdtool first [--rraindex n]"
[09-Oct-2007 21:49:32] <davetoo> There's no way to specify that index in the python lib
[09-Oct-2007 21:49:42] <davetoo> as far as I can tell
[09-Oct-2007 21:50:46] <kgoedtel> that sucks
[09-Oct-2007 21:50:55] <kgoedtel> what is this script doing if i may ask?
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:28] <davetoo> I have a bunch of devices that were added twice by my other tools,
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:36] <davetoo> once by IP address and once by FQDN
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:51] <kgoedtel> ahhh
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:56] <davetoo> and I need to get rid of the one with the "worst" data and rename it to the FQDN
[09-Oct-2007 21:52:08] <kgoedtel> interesting
[09-Oct-2007 21:55:09] <kgoedtel> i am completely unfamiliar with python
[09-Oct-2007 21:55:28] <kgoedtel> can't you call 'rrdtool first' ?
[09-Oct-2007 21:55:35] <davetoo> Zenoss is causing me to learn it
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:02] <kgoedtel> i think i will stick to perl :]
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:12] <kgoedtel> python is to OO for me
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:15] <davetoo> Yeah, as a last resort I could exec it in a shell, trap the results, parse the string into a datetime object
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:21] <davetoo> heh
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:26] <davetoo> you should see my perl code
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:44] <kgoedtel> oh?
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:04] <davetoo> major OO
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:04] <davetoo> major OO
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:09] <davetoo> (hmm, odd buffering)
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:40] <kgoedtel> i just cant think in terms of ukranian stacking dolls :|
[09-Oct-2007 21:58:27] <kgoedtel> ive made 7 lines of changes to zenoss for myself and that was enough for me
[09-Oct-2007 21:58:28] <davetoo> OO helps me keep down the number of things I have to remember at once
[09-Oct-2007 22:00:50] <kgoedtel> i wish i could get this question asnwered
[09-Oct-2007 22:00:52] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3542
[09-Oct-2007 22:01:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Custom threshold using snmp oid value (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Oct-2007 22:06:58] <daveto1> .
[09-Oct-2007 23:36:49] <monrad> hi bzed
[09-Oct-2007 23:37:07] <monrad> busy commiting?
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[10-Oct-2007 01:14:53] <OBM> how do I update zenoss from the cli?
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:07] <OBM> or failing that, how do I get the web browser update behind a proxy
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:12] <OBM> *working
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:23] <OBM> atm i click update and it just sits there doing nothing
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:38] <OBM> presumably because it can't connect as it's in a DMZ
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:54] <OBM> even though i set a path variable for http proxy under the zenoss user account
[10-Oct-2007 01:37:32] <ServicesPlus> Hi
[10-Oct-2007 01:37:51] <ServicesPlus> Anyone here?
[10-Oct-2007 01:41:14] <ServicesPlus> A question about the installation under Slackware
[10-Oct-2007 01:41:58] <ServicesPlus> Need your help!
[10-Oct-2007 01:42:20] <ServicesPlus> A newbie on Zenoss.
[10-Oct-2007 01:44:56] <ServicesPlus> No one answer?
[10-Oct-2007 01:46:15] <OBM> should be the same as source install under other linux
[10-Oct-2007 01:46:58] <ServicesPlus> an error msg, can not find the root cause, the error msg is
[10-Oct-2007 01:47:14] <ServicesPlus> gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/_mysql.o -L/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient_o
[10-Oct-2007 01:47:14] <ServicesPlus> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10-Oct-2007 01:48:55] <ServicesPlus> gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/_mysql.o -L/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient_o
[10-Oct-2007 01:49:25] <ServicesPlus> '/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/3.4.6/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqr'
[10-Oct-2007 01:51:46] <OBM> got me stuffed mate
[10-Oct-2007 01:51:53] <OBM> i installed under debian no dramas
[10-Oct-2007 01:51:59] <OBM> and under ubuntu no dramas
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:02] <OBM> both from source
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:18] <OBM> did you make sure you got all the dependencies?
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:22] <ServicesPlus> "/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/3.4.6/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysql
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:22] <ServicesPlus> client_r
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:24] <OBM> there were quite a few of them
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:49] <ServicesPlus> Yes, I'd installed mysql/swig/python
[10-Oct-2007 01:53:22] <ServicesPlus> the quesiton should be the link on mysqlclient_r, i think.
[10-Oct-2007 01:54:05] <ServicesPlus> the error msg is "cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[10-Oct-2007 01:54:13] <OBM> that would be my guess
[10-Oct-2007 01:55:09] <OBM> forums is your best bet
[10-Oct-2007 01:55:24] <OBM> i asked a question over 30 minutes ago and no reply
[10-Oct-2007 01:55:31] <OBM> as I'm guessing most ppl in chan are in US time zone
[10-Oct-2007 01:56:26] <ServicesPlus> Ok, thanks for your suggestion
[10-Oct-2007 01:56:35] <ServicesPlus> I'm from China, and u?
[10-Oct-2007 01:57:25] <OBM> Australia
[10-Oct-2007 02:01:37] <ServicesPlus> It's a good place for living
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[10-Oct-2007 06:50:55] <OBM> anyone know of a way to update zenoss from cli?
[10-Oct-2007 12:08:16] <lwilke> hi, i am evaluating zenoss atm, and i am wondering if there is a matrix or something comparing the featueres fo the core vs enterprise edition
[10-Oct-2007 12:08:37] <lwilke> i.e. core includes this not while enterprise does
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:20] <progma> Merciless:
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:21] <progma> 11:37 < Merciless> what if you untick monitored
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:21] <progma> 11:37 < Merciless> is it listed then?
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:42] <progma> yes, and a bunch of other services
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:56] * progma goes to check if there's a flood of emails
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:29] <Merciless> Hmm
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:40] <progma> Merciless: what i mean to say is, previously, only snmp was listed, but when i unticked monitored, a bunch of other services on the box were listed as well (such as smtp, which wasn't listed before)
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:46] <Merciless> so its listed as an unmonitored service, but even after acknowleding and moving the alert to history you still get an alert?
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:55] <progma> yes it's like a vicious cycle
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:59] <Merciless> whats the exact alert for again?
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:00] <Merciless> smtp?
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:04] <progma> hold
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:08] <Merciless> *holds*
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:27] <Merciless> lwilke -- theres not much diff except more advanced reporting and also support from official zenoss
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:31] <Merciless> rather than just the community
[10-Oct-2007 12:19:20] <progma> IP Service smtp is down
[10-Oct-2007 12:19:30] <progma> eventClass /Status/IpService
[10-Oct-2007 12:19:45] <Merciless> ok when you click on the device, on the overview screen for that device is there "smtp" and a red circle
[10-Oct-2007 12:20:13] <progma> nope, it's green as it should be ; all the others are grayed out as they should be
[10-Oct-2007 12:20:34] <progma> so, if i check snmp and click "Monitored" again while leaving the rest unchecked
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:00] <Merciless> :s
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:13] <Merciless> if its green that means that it thinks SMTP is enabled, and that its being monitored
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:14] <Merciless> lol
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:21] <lwilke> Merciless: is there a MOM feature included in core?
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:24] <progma> oh sorry, snmp not smtp
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:27] <progma> smtp is grayed out
[10-Oct-2007 12:22:45] <progma> snmp is the only service i want to monitor for now
[10-Oct-2007 12:23:07] <progma> so i ticked snmp and then ticked monitored back on hmm
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:06] <progma> let's see if event console continues to complain about a service being down that i'm not monitoring
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:19] <Merciless> lol
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:21] <progma> nope, still doing it
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:41] <Merciless> :s
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:48] <progma> weirdness
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:54] <Merciless> definitely
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:55] <progma> i wish i built this from scratch myself
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:58] <Merciless> rofl
[10-Oct-2007 12:26:01] <Merciless> i got so many bugs as well
[10-Oct-2007 12:26:02] <progma> i hate walking into someone else's setup
[10-Oct-2007 12:26:04] <Merciless> doing my head in
[10-Oct-2007 12:30:32] <progma> yah i've got plenty more i don't even know how to explain yet
[10-Oct-2007 12:30:34] <progma> all in due time
[10-Oct-2007 12:31:57] <bzed> monrad: with some luck we'll be able to upload zenoss to experimental today or tomorrow
[10-Oct-2007 12:46:24] <monrad> bzed: sounds nice
[10-Oct-2007 12:52:31] <progma> bzed: where are you at right now
[10-Oct-2007 12:52:37] <progma> what version i mean
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:00] <bzed> progma: latest beta
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:03] <bzed> well
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:07] <bzed> the beta that will come out today
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:14] <bzed> or is supposed to come out today
[10-Oct-2007 13:00:12] <progma> say, if a device's name is different from the SNMP sysName set in snmpd.conf, will zenoss see this as two hosts using the same ip and produce an alert? i think that's what is going on here
[10-Oct-2007 13:04:37] <bzed> don;t think so. can;t test it right now, though
[10-Oct-2007 14:08:49] <xoritor> ok, what can i put into zenoss and where can I put it to have zenoss populate
[10-Oct-2007 14:08:49] <xoritor> HW Model
[10-Oct-2007 14:08:49] <xoritor> Net-SNMP Agent
[10-Oct-2007 14:09:35] <xoritor> maybe I want to put it into net-snmp and have it seen by zenoss... i am just not sure what zenoss "reads" from snmp to get that information
[10-Oct-2007 14:30:48] <incorrect> how can i get hardware info into zenoss?
[10-Oct-2007 14:30:57] <incorrect> say from my dell omsa kit
[10-Oct-2007 14:31:15] <xoritor> incorrect: i get it from snmp automatically
[10-Oct-2007 14:31:30] <xoritor> the dell hardware collectors are already there
[10-Oct-2007 14:31:55] <xoritor> although... they are not 100% accurate
[10-Oct-2007 14:32:25] <xoritor> incorrect: what hardware information are you looking for specifically?
[10-Oct-2007 14:33:36] <incorrect> temp disk failures etc
[10-Oct-2007 14:33:46] <incorrect> i've managed to get the service tag via snmp
[10-Oct-2007 14:33:53] <incorrect> but it would be nice to get more
[10-Oct-2007 14:34:18] <xoritor> hmm
[10-Oct-2007 14:34:40] <xoritor> look at linux.dell.com and see if they have a mib for the omsa stuff
[10-Oct-2007 14:35:04] <incorrect> i installed some mibs that were left behind
[10-Oct-2007 14:36:28] <incorrect> i've got a complete PCI bus listing back
[10-Oct-2007 14:36:49] <xoritor> did you look at the "collectors"?
[10-Oct-2007 14:38:13] <incorrect> nope
[10-Oct-2007 14:38:19] <incorrect> where are those configured?
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:34] <xoritor> in the device there is a drop down menu... in that menu the "more" submenu contains an item for "collectors"
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:45] <xoritor> you can do it for lots of devices
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:52] <xoritor> individual devieces
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:53] <xoritor> etc...
[10-Oct-2007 14:40:05] <xoritor> i think thats where it is
[10-Oct-2007 14:40:10] <incorrect> thanks
[10-Oct-2007 14:40:23] <xoritor> grab the pdf guide and it show you how to do that
[10-Oct-2007 14:43:47] <incorrect> done it thanks, it would appear i don't have things like temp monitors
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:07] <incorrect> can i run commands against mysql?
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:09] <progma> incorrect: if you install omsa, it should have modified snmpd with the dell oid
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:10] <progma> s
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:18] <incorrect> i have progma
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:29] <progma> incorrect: can you snmpwalk them
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:38] <incorrect> smuxpeer .1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:03] <incorrect> yep
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:04] <progma> incorrect: can you see temps in the web admin (on port 1311)
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:38] <incorrect> pretty sure i could
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:40] <incorrect> let me double check
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:52] <incorrect> yes i can
[10-Oct-2007 14:51:39] <progma> hey, if system.sysName doesn't match the device name used by zenoss is this going to confuse zenoss
[10-Oct-2007 14:53:16] <incorrect> no idea
[10-Oct-2007 14:55:27] <progma> me either
[10-Oct-2007 14:59:58] <incorrect> well my hp procurves are generating nice graphs
[10-Oct-2007 15:03:21] <incorrect> what are zenpacks?
[10-Oct-2007 15:18:18] <incorrect> is there a web site other than mibdepot that i can get mib files?
[10-Oct-2007 15:27:05] <mutil8> your hardware manufacturer typically has it
[10-Oct-2007 15:31:44] <incorrect> thanks
[10-Oct-2007 15:33:35] <mutil8> what HP's are you using?
[10-Oct-2007 15:33:44] <mutil8> i've got a 4202vl72 here
[10-Oct-2007 15:34:34] <incorrect> 5406zl
[10-Oct-2007 15:34:44] <incorrect> and a couple of 2650
[10-Oct-2007 15:37:37] <mutil8> do you get anything under 'perf'?
[10-Oct-2007 15:37:48] <mutil8> or do you have to go into OS and then look at each interface?
[10-Oct-2007 15:39:28] <incorrect> not a thing
[10-Oct-2007 15:39:38] <incorrect> i look at each interface
[10-Oct-2007 15:40:18] <incorrect> i like zenoss, however, i think there is still a lot going for a nagios/cacti setup
[10-Oct-2007 15:41:16] <creiht> mutil8: What do you want to see under perf?
[10-Oct-2007 15:41:42] <creiht> perf is for cpu and memory stats
[10-Oct-2007 15:41:59] <incorrect> it would be nice to be able to create a list of graphs like cacti
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:15] <creiht> incorrect: I think that will be coming eventually
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:24] <incorrect> fair enough!
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:32] <creiht> It is easy to do though if you need to
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:39] <creiht> For example we have a corporate wiki
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:49] <creiht> and I have created pages that link to specific graphs
[10-Oct-2007 15:43:05] <creiht> So that we can get a quick overview of how important systems are working
[10-Oct-2007 15:43:23] <mutil8> creiht: nothing, just wondering
[10-Oct-2007 15:43:24] <incorrect> i think its just odd having empty tabs
[10-Oct-2007 15:44:19] <creiht> Well they are there for consistency's sake
[10-Oct-2007 15:44:58] <creiht> And you might want to add perf graphs at some point, say you are using a cisco switch and add the mibs that monitor the cpu of the switch
[10-Oct-2007 15:56:12] <incorrect> yeah i wish i could get that working
[10-Oct-2007 16:00:40] <incorrect> i think i need to get more collector plugins
[10-Oct-2007 16:01:56] <creiht> incorrect: It is mostly just creating a performance template for your device
[10-Oct-2007 16:02:38] <creiht> Figure out what mibs you want to watch, set them up as data sources, and then assign those data sources to graphs
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:00] <creiht> You could look at the perf template of a server device to see what that might need to look like
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:31] <incorrect> yeah i was looking at doing that
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:40] <incorrect> i just hoped it could be easier
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:44] <creiht> ahh
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:08] <incorrect> ok should i say, i am lazy
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:11] <creiht> haha
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:15] <creiht> Aren't we all?
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:16] <creiht>
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:33] <incorrect> why did i pick zenoss, because nagios doesn't have network scanning
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:44] <incorrect> and i am too tired to create the config files
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:00] <incorrect> shame cacti and nagios don't merge into a singe app
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:14] <creiht> The nice thing about zenoss is that it comes pre set up with a decent set of defaults
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:25] <incorrect> yup
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:39] <creiht> the tough thing is that with routers and switches is that they all expose performance information differently
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:44] <incorrect> i want to test the network alert, whats the best way to flood a remote box?
[10-Oct-2007 16:06:13] <creiht> distributed nmap?
[10-Oct-2007 16:06:19] <creiht> gotta run... bbl
[10-Oct-2007 16:06:36] <incorrect> bye
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[10-Oct-2007 16:57:05] <monrad> anyone have problems with zeopack?
[10-Oct-2007 16:57:35] <monrad> ImportError: No module named ZEO.ClientStorage
[10-Oct-2007 16:57:38] <monrad> i get that
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[10-Oct-2007 18:00:13] <f00> hello
[10-Oct-2007 18:00:35] <f00> I plan to move from nagios to zenoss, maintaining the monitoring server on my own
[10-Oct-2007 18:00:45] <f00> is it possible to buy email support alone?
[10-Oct-2007 18:01:56] <creiht> f00: Not sure, I would send them an email, and see what they say
[10-Oct-2007 18:02:49] <f00> thanks
[10-Oct-2007 18:03:24] <f00> I have some unusual requirements and I would like to ask you if they are likely doable with zenoss
[10-Oct-2007 18:03:52] <f00> briefly, I have complex SLAs that state different requirements for different periods of time
[10-Oct-2007 18:03:53] <creiht> f00: You never know until you ask
[10-Oct-2007 18:04:52] <f00> for example: during night service must be up for > 75% and RTT on hour-basis average minor than 40ms, during day other stuff, during holydays other again
[10-Oct-2007 18:05:06] <f00> basically, reporting should be split
[10-Oct-2007 18:05:15] <f00> is such a thing possible?
[10-Oct-2007 18:07:18] <dschrock> f00 : right now, RTT can't be measured in zenoss... the ping functionality built-in is only useful for up/down status...
[10-Oct-2007 18:07:42] <f00> dschrock: RTT is an advanced feature I don't expect in the immediate
[10-Oct-2007 18:07:43] <dschrock> if you are using tcp, then it should be doable
[10-Oct-2007 18:08:10] <f00> the prominent part is if it's possible to generate multiple reports that focus different timeslices
[10-Oct-2007 18:08:43] <f00> by doable I mean it requires less than 1 week to realize
[10-Oct-2007 19:24:15] <jfchevrette> Hi !
[10-Oct-2007 19:25:17] <jfchevrette> I have a question regarding zenoss, I'm running beta 2.0.92 so I'm not sure if this could be a bug or if it's a feature
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[10-Oct-2007 22:03:31] <jerris> So, 2.0.93 just came out. Anybody know if they have a changelog somewhere?
[10-Oct-2007 22:10:06] <kgoedtel> just this info afaik
[10-Oct-2007 22:10:07] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11641#11641
[10-Oct-2007 22:10:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss Core Beta 2.1 - Version 2.0.93 Available (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Oct-2007 23:40:47] <monrad> are there any upgrade issues?
[10-Oct-2007 23:43:35] <monrad> maybe bzed will give us some deb packages to play around with soon
[10-Oct-2007 23:46:04] <monrad> Added ApachePack and MySqlMonitor ZenPacks. <- guess thats for enterprise
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[11-Oct-2007 12:02:26] <|robert|> Hi, I've just installed zenoss-2.0.6-0.el5.i386.rpm on a centos5, and I'm getting this at starting it:
[11-Oct-2007 12:02:27] <|robert|> AttributeError: /opt/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[11-Oct-2007 12:03:07] <|robert|> hier is the full output
[11-Oct-2007 12:03:10] <|robert|> http://pastebin.com/m376736c7
[11-Oct-2007 12:03:20] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Oct-2007 14:32:01] <pablo26> hi all
[11-Oct-2007 14:35:20] <pablo26> i'm having problem using mix-in templates i've created a template in /devices/externalsites (and also copied to /devices ) i want to add it to a server, if i bin templates from the menu the existing template (/device/server/windows) dissapairif i add it from zProperties of the devices it wont appear
[11-Oct-2007 15:09:43] <fiXXXerMet> Wondering if any of you monitor any toshiba strata devices (chsub672a/chsue672a) with snmp / zenoss?
[11-Oct-2007 15:32:37] <pablo26> have anyone used the HttpMonitor available on the zenoss page?
[11-Oct-2007 15:33:11] <kgoedtel> i have
[11-Oct-2007 15:34:27] <pablo26> i'm getting a warning HTTP OK
[11-Oct-2007 15:34:42] <pablo26> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[11-Oct-2007 15:35:01] <kgoedtel> it's sending an alert?
[11-Oct-2007 15:35:33] <pablo26> yes
[11-Oct-2007 15:36:47] <kgoedtel> hmm you shouldnt be getting a warning from that
[11-Oct-2007 15:37:06] <kgoedtel> HTTP OK is what the nagios plugin states when the connection is successful
[11-Oct-2007 15:38:00] <kgoedtel> did you try your same options from the command line?
[11-Oct-2007 15:38:07] <kgoedtel> using check_http
[11-Oct-2007 15:38:35] <pablo26> no, but i have used as a COMMAND and worked ok
[11-Oct-2007 16:15:00] <pablo26> kgoedtel i've set up the same template with the same config (the only difference is the port) and the one withour a redirection works ok the other gives me the warning
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[11-Oct-2007 17:53:13] <fiXXXerMet> I can't get notifications working no matter what I try. Could someone help me?
[11-Oct-2007 18:02:17] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: What problem are you having?
[11-Oct-2007 18:04:17] <fiXXXerMet> I make an alert rule for an event and never get notified
[11-Oct-2007 18:04:24] <fiXXXerMet> Nothing even in the mail logs so the alert isn't being generated.
[11-Oct-2007 18:06:48] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: A couple of things that you can check
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:05] <creiht> firs check that it can send the mail by clicking the test button next to your email
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:12] <fiXXXerMet> Done that, and it works
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:30] <creiht> second check the zenaction.log in $ZENHOME/log to see if any errors are showing up there
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:59] <creiht> third make sure that the event is throwing an error high enough for your alert to trigger
[11-Oct-2007 18:08:45] <creiht> Also make sure that the alert is enabled
[11-Oct-2007 18:09:02] <creiht> Did you add any other filters besides the default filters?
[11-Oct-2007 18:10:03] <fiXXXerMet> zenactions.log is just full of INFOs
[11-Oct-2007 18:11:34] <fiXXXerMet> My rule is Enabled, severity = critical (which we just had 3 of)
[11-Oct-2007 18:14:07] <fiXXXerMet> Is it OK to create the rule for the admin user and then specicfy an alternate email address?
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:09] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Should be... I have done that before
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:19] <fiXXXerMet> ok
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:33] <creiht> When an alert actually sends an email you should see it logged in zenactions.log
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:42] <creiht> Do you have delay set?
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:52] <fiXXXerMet> No (0)
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:59] <creiht> And is the device in a production status?
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:11] <fiXXXerMet> Yeah, but I took that out of the rule
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:19] <creiht> ok
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:21] <creiht> hrm
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:29] <creiht> oh
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:37] <creiht> How along ago did you create the rule?
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:53] <fiXXXerMet> Weeks
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:55] <fiXXXerMet> ago
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:56] <creiht> ahh
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:57] <creiht> ok
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:33] <fiXXXerMet> creiht: http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/yqskcu.jpg how does that look?
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:46] <creiht> wow
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:53] <creiht> that is about as simple as you can get
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:56] <fiXXXerMet> yeah lol
[11-Oct-2007 18:20:41] <creiht> can you post an screen shot of the event page that has the event on it that you are expecting a page for?
[11-Oct-2007 18:21:45] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/nbqrhe.jpg
[11-Oct-2007 18:23:19] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Hrm... can you click on one of the magnifying glasses and post that?
[11-Oct-2007 18:23:29] <fiXXXerMet> sure, matter which one, or which tab?
[11-Oct-2007 18:23:58] <creiht> any one
[11-Oct-2007 18:24:25] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/bkfxjx.jpg
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:23] <creiht> That is odd
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:28] <creiht> Everything looks in line to me
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:50] <creiht> As far as I can tell it should work
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:55] <creiht> not sure why you are not getting anything
[11-Oct-2007 18:26:18] <fiXXXerMet> I had the rule creatd for another user. I'll delete the user and set the rule for admin and try again
[11-Oct-2007 18:26:49] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: The only other thing that you might try is changing the box to a production state
[11-Oct-2007 18:26:56] <creiht> Just to see if that is affecting it somehow
[11-Oct-2007 18:27:00] <creiht> I know the rule isn't set
[11-Oct-2007 18:27:20] <creiht> But there are other places in Zenoss where it doesn't do certain things if it is not in production
[11-Oct-2007 18:28:48] <Rocinante> Quick question; I upgraded from 1.1.1 (I think) to 2.0.6, and it seems that zCollectorPlugins is empty for everything. Where do I find a list of "defaults", or at least what does what, so I can repopulate it?
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[11-Oct-2007 23:24:33] <Rocinante> Oh well.
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[12-Oct-2007 06:23:48] <darkhorse> does anyone know off hand why performance reports would break with a traceback
[12-Oct-2007 09:47:47] <viviersf> how can i back up my ipservice settings ?
[12-Oct-2007 09:58:39] <viviersf> and
[12-Oct-2007 09:58:57] <viviersf> why dont i have any info on the performance tab ?
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[12-Oct-2007 11:52:37] <Serialchiller> hello everyone
[12-Oct-2007 11:55:31] <Serialchiller> I have a mysql database with asset info, I would like to update this for the monitored hosts within zeneoss what would be the easiest way to update this dynamicly, so when I update the database zenoss will be updated too?
[12-Oct-2007 12:20:15] <progma> no idea, but maybe editing snmpd.conf with system info and running a discovery and device model?
[12-Oct-2007 12:25:02] <Serialchiller> only 2 values are I think allowed there which is loction however that is a different to the query that the location goole maps uses
[12-Oct-2007 12:25:58] <progma> oh ok, way over my head :|
[12-Oct-2007 12:26:22] <progma> would love to hear the solution
[12-Oct-2007 12:27:19] <Serialchiller> I really hope some can help me out here as I am using zenoss in a very dynamic environment and I don't feel much for updating the monitoring system with asset info, etc
[12-Oct-2007 12:31:29] <Serialchiller> manually
[12-Oct-2007 12:38:43] <progma> i can definitely understand that
[12-Oct-2007 12:38:53] <progma> is there a way to export to xml
[12-Oct-2007 12:40:00] <progma> i'm pretty sure you can import device info to zenoss via xml
[12-Oct-2007 12:42:46] <progma> anyone use Zwiki?
[12-Oct-2007 13:37:40] <Serialchiller> Anyone wake here?
[12-Oct-2007 13:38:19] <Serialchiller> or is everyone Chilling!
[12-Oct-2007 13:38:41] <progma> it's friiiidaayyyyyy
[12-Oct-2007 13:40:31] <Serialchiller> two more hours till beer o'clock
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:04] <progma> euro?
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:14] <Serialchiller> yes amsterdam
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:28] <Serialchiller> where are you?
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:31] <progma> heh cool
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:35] <progma> wash dc area
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:15] <Serialchiller> so it;s like 9;42 am there?
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:25] <progma> yup
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:49] <Serialchiller> ok what do you do?
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:58] <progma> sysadmin
[12-Oct-2007 13:43:08] <Serialchiller> used to be sysadm
[12-Oct-2007 14:28:12] <Serialchiller> I have a mysql database with asset info, I would like to update this for the monitored hosts within zeneoss what would be the easiest way to update this dynamicly, so when I update the database zenoss will be updated too?
[12-Oct-2007 14:46:35] <progma> how do i get raw events
[12-Oct-2007 14:46:53] <progma> i can only see the 1st and last events in the event console
[12-Oct-2007 14:47:09] <progma> can i just hit a flat file similar to /var/log/messages and grep around?
[12-Oct-2007 14:47:12] <Tinozaure> Hello, I am looking for some ethernet stress tool to test a router.
[12-Oct-2007 14:47:23] <davetoo> progma: it's in the mysql Events database
[12-Oct-2007 14:49:12] <creiht> progma: You can also go to the history for the device
[12-Oct-2007 14:49:34] <creiht> It will show you all of the events
[12-Oct-2007 14:49:41] <creiht> You can also export that
[12-Oct-2007 14:51:55] <creiht> hrm... Well I just realized that you will not see the "raw" events, but only past evetns.. so yeah you need to get it from the mysql db
[12-Oct-2007 14:52:56] <davetoo> actually I'm not certain if the database contains anything but state-changes, either.
[12-Oct-2007 14:53:16] <davetoo> I haven't looked but it seems logical that in order to save space they'd only save changes in the event state
[12-Oct-2007 14:55:28] <Serialchiller> do you guys know who I can update the info of each host
[12-Oct-2007 14:59:24] <progma> davetoo: yes that makes sense and thanks for the help
[12-Oct-2007 15:07:43] <progma> where's a good start for reporting
[12-Oct-2007 15:19:17] <progma> i.e. how would i generate a report based on a few events that happened last night
[12-Oct-2007 15:20:01] <progma> i know the date range, and by going through the raw events db i can find what i'm looking for *eventually*
[12-Oct-2007 15:21:48] <progma> in the query field of creating a report, does it have to be python
[12-Oct-2007 15:30:32] <progma> if so are there example python queries
[12-Oct-2007 15:59:56] <progma> ok how about a nice faq on report generation?
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[12-Oct-2007 17:38:34] <dowdle> Greetings. So have you guys ever considered making an OpenVZ OS Template for Zenoss? You have a VMware image.
[12-Oct-2007 17:39:02] <dowdle> Or is the VMware image just for Windows users?
[12-Oct-2007 18:48:23] <mutil8> so anybody monitoring a dell blade center?
[12-Oct-2007 19:05:52] <progma> mutil8: heya
[12-Oct-2007 19:25:04] <progma> mutil8: have you messed with reporting yet
[12-Oct-2007 19:39:53] <mutil8> nope!
[12-Oct-2007 19:40:00] <mutil8> but i'm going to need to
[12-Oct-2007 19:40:08] <mutil8> i clicked around in it a little, but haven't created my own yet
[12-Oct-2007 19:40:23] <mutil8> you?
[12-Oct-2007 19:45:04] <darkhorse> does anyone else get errors when you try to view performance reports?
[12-Oct-2007 19:46:29] <darkhorse> http://paste.dtella.org/342
[12-Oct-2007 19:46:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Dtella Paste Service (at paste.dtella.org)
[12-Oct-2007 19:48:32] <mutil8> there's something wrong in your data point
[12-Oct-2007 20:02:04] <darkhorse> hmm
[12-Oct-2007 20:07:08] <progma> mutil8: just trying to; had an issue last night and guy wanted to see if zenoss caught it
[12-Oct-2007 20:07:32] <progma> no easy way of giving a query, so just went to the raw events db and culled it that way
[12-Oct-2007 20:07:51] <progma> while goofing with reporting, trying to figure out syntax for "query" field
[12-Oct-2007 20:08:02] <progma> time to learn python
[12-Oct-2007 20:08:19] <kgoedte1> only thing ive ben able to do is custom organized graphs :[
[12-Oct-2007 20:08:27] <kgoedte1> havent figured out reports yet
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:05] <mutil8> when i get back from my vacation next week i'll probably start messing with graphs
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:28] <mutil8> progma: i should have decent perf templates for PE 1600sc, 1800, 1950, and 1955
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:49] <mutil8> still can't get my 1855 chassis to report all the information i can get by logging into the web interface
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:50] <progma> awesome
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:58] <mutil8> which has all the really important stuff for the 1955 machines
[12-Oct-2007 20:13:15] <progma> the oids are a bit different from PE to PE but i want to see how you did the templates if you don't mind
[12-Oct-2007 20:13:55] <mutil8> sure
[12-Oct-2007 20:20:29] <mutil8> ok, so how do i package up these zenpacks?
[12-Oct-2007 20:21:22] <kgoedte1> there isnt really a good way o do it right now
[12-Oct-2007 20:21:34] <kgoedte1> the export creates broken packs
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:37] <mutil8> doh!
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:42] <mutil8> even in 2.0.6
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:47] <kgoedte1> yap
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:49] <mutil8>
[12-Oct-2007 20:24:22] <mutil8> probably why the multi-core CPU zenpack somebody else sent me wouldn't install
[12-Oct-2007 20:28:14] <progma> doh
[12-Oct-2007 20:42:17] <mutil8> wonder if i zip it myself if it'll work
[12-Oct-2007 20:46:10] <mutil8> god this copy is taking forever
[12-Oct-2007 20:46:18] <mutil8> i have to move 472gb from one box to another
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[13-Oct-2007 16:15:50] <brutuz> when you install zenoss... does it automatically receive traps?
[13-Oct-2007 16:16:38] <brutuz> or I have to configure it first?
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[13-Oct-2007 23:32:10] <m1r> evening
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[14-Oct-2007 00:04:20] <hexbase> hi
[14-Oct-2007 00:04:43] <hexbase> I got a problem using zenoss
[14-Oct-2007 01:58:37] <brutuz> is there a way to change the polling of zenos from v1 to v2c
[14-Oct-2007 01:58:39] <brutuz> ???
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[14-Oct-2007 17:58:16] <stevesz> Hi, I'm stuck with a permission error and I can't see what is wrong. After install (as zenoss) and starting up (as zenoss), I get permission denied on zensocket. It has been set to 04750 and root:zenoss, but obviously there's still some permission error.
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[15-Oct-2007 05:06:30] <stoked> hi all
[15-Oct-2007 05:06:46] <stoked> trying to have my interface graphs update faster than every 5min
[15-Oct-2007 05:07:04] <stoked> was able to change zenoss to poll every 1min
[15-Oct-2007 05:07:23] <stoked> but thoroughput graphs still update at 5min intervals
[15-Oct-2007 05:12:57] <stoked> anyone got any ideas?
[15-Oct-2007 06:14:04] <pizzahead> so I've installed zenoss and I can't seem to figure out how to graph interface traffic yet
[15-Oct-2007 06:16:09] <pizzahead> hmm looks like I was trying to access them wrong
[15-Oct-2007 06:17:54] <pizzahead> ahh there is a real admin guide, time to get reading
[15-Oct-2007 06:18:03] <pizzahead> sorry to waste yoru time
[15-Oct-2007 10:47:02] <incorrect> how can i change the ip addresses that zenoss wants to check a service on?
[15-Oct-2007 11:48:08] <|robert|> Hi, I've a understanding problem. I've added an IP Service and activated it. now its green, but its even green if on that port nothing runs.
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:22] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> hello, i have small problem?
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:35] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> when try to install on fbsd 6.2
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:38] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> get this error
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:38] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> cc is required to build dependent libraries
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:44] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> but i have cc and gcc compiler
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:53] <AuReUs_ReCtOR>
[15-Oct-2007 14:26:54] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> well? anyone?
[15-Oct-2007 14:37:16] <stevesz> Hi, I got an interesting permission problem with being able to use zensocket. Ownership and sudo has been set, it's installed and running as zenoss and sudo has been verified for zenoss. The error is from zenfunctions line 61 zensocket and permission denied. Being new to zenoss I don't know what else to try.
[15-Oct-2007 15:02:40] <Salden> I've been having problems with a few daemons not starting and have traced the problem to be something to do with zenhub. I have run zenhub in debug mode and am seeing traces with the following error. Can anyone help me?
[15-Oct-2007 15:02:41] <Salden> method=request.get('REQUEST_METHOD', 'GET')
[15-Oct-2007 15:02:41] <Salden> exceptions.AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get'
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:06] <Salden> this started in version 2.0.0 and is still present after upgrading to 2.0.6
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:37] <Salden> the reference is to this file:
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:37] <Salden> method=request.get('REQUEST_METHOD', 'GET')
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:37] <Salden> exceptions.AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get'
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:40] <Salden> oops
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:49] <Salden> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py", line 710, in __getitem__
[15-Oct-2007 15:25:21] <stevesz> It does not look like anyone who knows are available...
[15-Oct-2007 15:34:52] <Salden> yup...
[15-Oct-2007 15:35:16] <Salden> we've posted on the forums with no response either now for a couple weeks, it's a pretty serious issues and others have seen it as well
[15-Oct-2007 15:36:08] <stevesz> I would expect a, "soor don't know, we are looking into it" kind of response at a minimum..
[15-Oct-2007 15:36:31] <stevesz> I would expect a, "sorry"
[15-Oct-2007 15:38:45] <Salden> well that hasn't been the case. I've even just uninstalled rpm -e and then reinstalled with rmp -U as someone else supposedly had success with but no dice for me
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[15-Oct-2007 18:21:51] <Y0da^> so what's up
[15-Oct-2007 18:22:22] <Y0da^> can anyone recommend a good distro for setting up zenoss?
[15-Oct-2007 18:26:03] <msw> Y0da^: how about the appliance version?
[15-Oct-2007 18:34:27] <Y0da^> aairplane version?
[15-Oct-2007 18:35:04] <Y0da^> my bad
[15-Oct-2007 18:35:15] <Y0da^> nm
[15-Oct-2007 18:35:19] <Y0da^> lol
[15-Oct-2007 18:37:16] <Y0da^> I'm trying to install zenoss on SLES10, but I keep hosing yast in the process.... any ideas?
[15-Oct-2007 21:01:26] <stoked> anyone know how to increase the graphing interval to 1min from 5min?
[15-Oct-2007 21:34:51] <monrad> bzed_: any news on packages or you been busy?
[15-Oct-2007 21:37:34] <bzed_> monrad: although I didn't read the changes of the last days, I have only a fwe last licensing problems on my list, otherwise the package should be ready. they've added a .swf file now, which is based on a non-distributeable source
[15-Oct-2007 21:37:48] <bzed_> at least non for debian distributeab;e
[15-Oct-2007 21:38:23] <bzed_> so that'll be removed for debian, and probably something to download it added or so - not sure.
[15-Oct-2007 21:38:55] <monrad> ok
[15-Oct-2007 21:39:05] <monrad> but sounds nice
[15-Oct-2007 21:39:20] <bzed_> if I would have more spare time, things would go faster :\
[15-Oct-2007 21:39:29] <bzed_> or somebody has to pay me for zenoss stuff
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[15-Oct-2007 23:37:36] <davetoo> Well, that's no good.
[15-Oct-2007 23:38:05] <davetoo> Removing the CPU threshold from the /Devices/Device template broke 2.0.93
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[16-Oct-2007 00:28:08] <davetoo> dammit
[16-Oct-2007 00:28:18] <davetoo> now I can't even do a zendevicedump
[16-Oct-2007 01:17:02] <stevesz> Has anyone checked to see if they were working today?
[16-Oct-2007 01:22:37] <davetoo> timebomb?
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[16-Oct-2007 03:11:51] <stevesz> Oh, now I get it. No, I was just wondering if they were this unresponsive because of not working...
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[16-Oct-2007 14:28:15] <brutuz> im getting twsnmp.protocol: Bad response..
[16-Oct-2007 14:28:21] <brutuz> any idea what is it?
[16-Oct-2007 15:15:20] <brutuz> im getting twsnmp.protocol: Bad response..
[16-Oct-2007 15:15:37] <brutuz> does anyone here have an idea what this error is?
[16-Oct-2007 16:12:27] <monrad> anyone knows if 2.1.0 is going to be released today?
[16-Oct-2007 16:30:05] <eurowerke> h0rk
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[16-Oct-2007 17:23:59] <pablo26> hi all
[16-Oct-2007 17:25:36] <pablo26> i'm having this issue i'e installed the zenpack httpmonitor and i set it up, now i'm getting warnings like HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 84882 bytes in 1.652 seconds
[16-Oct-2007 17:28:14] <eurowerke> that's the output of check_http
[16-Oct-2007 17:28:43] <pablo26> thats the message of the event
[16-Oct-2007 17:33:09] <pablo26> i dont know why it appears as a warning
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[16-Oct-2007 18:34:25] <maj> is there any way to modify how often smtp service is being checked on a specific machine?
[16-Oct-2007 18:35:49] <stoked> yes
[16-Oct-2007 18:36:01] <stoked> can't remember where.. lemme take a quick look
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:01] <pablo26> i dont think so, there is a propery of zcommandCycleTime but not for snmp
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:34] <maj> i need to change smtp check interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:34] <stoked> monitors
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:48] <stoked> performance monitors
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:02] <stevesz> Hi, I got an interesting permission problem with being able to use zensocket. Ownership and sudo has been set, it's installed and running as zenoss and sudo has been verified for zenoss. The error is from zenfunctions line 61 zensocket and permission denied. Being new to zenoss I don't know what else to try.
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:03] <stoked> SNMP Performance Cycle Interval (secs)
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:28] <stoked> think I had to restart one of the daemons to get it to poll at my new interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:45] <stoked> but I am trying to get the graph to update at my new interval which I can't seem to do
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:06] <maj> stoked, would that affect all of the machines?
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:22] <stoked> yeah
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:24] <stoked> I believe so
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:32] <maj> any way to change it for a single one?
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:40] <stoked> you can create a new performance monitor
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:45] <stoked> and apply it to your single one I believe
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:54] <maj> hrm, ok
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:02] <maj> i'll try that, thx
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:09] <stoked> np
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:19] <pablo26> i still cant use the httpmonitor
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:30] <stoked> Anyone know how to change the graphing interval?
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:33] <maj> stoked, would smtp service be a performance, or status monitor tho?
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:40] <pablo26> stoked isn't that the same question as changing the interval?
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:44] <maj> i thought it'd be satus
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:59] <stoked> pablo26 no... snmp interval doesn't change the graphing interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:42:17] <stoked> maj I'm not sure
[16-Oct-2007 18:42:39] <stoked> I changed it and ran tcpdump to see if the snmp traffic was going at a diff rate
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:07] <stoked> oh... sorry maj
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:11] <stoked> I read your question wrong...
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:30] <stoked> snmp interval won't check a tcp port check interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:35] <stoked> won't change
[16-Oct-2007 18:44:23] <maj> yea... iam talking about smtp
[16-Oct-2007 18:44:32] <maj> sendmail port
[16-Oct-2007 18:44:53] <maj> does that change your answer tho?
[16-Oct-2007 18:48:10] <stoked> my answer won't do what you want
[16-Oct-2007 19:04:06] <maj> any other ideas?
[16-Oct-2007 19:06:51] <[ToT]ALiP> hi Guys ...
[16-Oct-2007 19:10:16] <[ToT]ALiP> Did someone running Zenoss with Lighttpd ?
[16-Oct-2007 19:11:57] <eurowerke> stevesz: is your zensocket setuid?
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:21] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:26] <eurowerke> d0h
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:33] <eurowerke> I figured that was the prob
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:40] <eurowerke> you set it as per the install directions?
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:47] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:49] <eurowerke> 04755, i think?
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:52] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:55] <eurowerke> hrm...
[16-Oct-2007 19:13:42] <[ToT]ALiP> chmod 04750
[16-Oct-2007 19:13:57] <stevesz> eurowerke, oh yes, right
[16-Oct-2007 19:14:40] <eurowerke> is zenoss in the sudoers file?
[16-Oct-2007 19:14:42] <eurowerke> user zenoss
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:00] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:21] <eurowerke> hrm
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:25] <eurowerke> I'm out of ideas then..
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:43] <eurowerke> only thing I can think of is that you might want to reinstall again
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:45] <eurowerke>
[16-Oct-2007 19:17:06] <stevesz> eurowerke, done that a few times
[16-Oct-2007 19:23:00] <[ToT]ALiP> a little one, where i can change the port ?
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[17-Oct-2007 01:12:24] <winskie> hi, i'm evaluating zenoss core 2.0 and i'm having a hard time adding my network (10.250.0.0/16), can anyone please help me?
[17-Oct-2007 01:14:33] <winskie> it's 10.1.0.0/16 sorry. whenever i try to add it says that the id contains character illegal in URLs
[17-Oct-2007 04:15:37] <davetoo> OK, now I'm confused.
[17-Oct-2007 04:16:19] <davetoo> zenoss thinks the snmp agent is down on a host, but it can do an snmp walk on that host from the command pulldown.
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[17-Oct-2007 05:31:51] <osc_> hello
[17-Oct-2007 05:47:00] <davetoo> I don't freakin' get it
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[17-Oct-2007 13:58:45] <m1r> hi all
[17-Oct-2007 14:27:13] <m1r> i have little problem with 2 network cards , how can i detect devices on eth1 which is serving dhcp ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:43:07] <xoritor> good morning everyone
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:01] <jsm> i guess i'm supposed to be punished for upgrading to 2.1.0 ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:18] <xoritor> ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:34] <jsm> the device status page is all whacky
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:36] <xoritor> jsm: what happened?
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:37] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:39] <jsm> looks like malformed html
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:43] <xoritor> im upgrading right now
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:45] <xoritor> :-/
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:05] <jsm> yeah let me know what happens
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:09] <xoritor> i will
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:18] <jsm> my device status page is borked
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:38] <xoritor> ill check that right off... after the migration
[17-Oct-2007 15:46:52] <jsm> it might just be the "new" look
[17-Oct-2007 15:46:59] <jsm> but it looks off
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:02] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:20] <jsm> maybe the CSS is screwed
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:29] <xoritor> what browser do you use?
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:36] <jsm> firefox 2.x
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:53] <xoritor> ok thats what i mainly use for zenoss... its really screwy in anything else
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:03] <xoritor> ie... konqueror, opera, etc...
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:38] <xoritor> well... the "ie..." did not mean internet exploder
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:48] <xoritor> we dont use that
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:57] <xoritor> not even on the windows machines
[17-Oct-2007 15:49:16] <xoritor> im still "starting" daemons
[17-Oct-2007 15:51:40] <xoritor> jsm: this device list does not look any different than the previous "beta" releases did
[17-Oct-2007 15:51:56] <jsm> oh ok, it's just new to me then
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:04] <xoritor> aah
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:13] <jsm> they don't bold things
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:15] <jsm> weird
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:17] <jsm> kinda hard to read
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:23] <xoritor> im guessing you didnt try out any of the beta releases thing right?
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:28] <jsm> nope
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:34] <xoritor> the flash network map thingy still wont draw out my /16 though
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:35] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:49] <jsm> if you go under reports, are all the report titles centered?
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:50] <jsm> that's ugly
[17-Oct-2007 15:54:09] <xoritor> it will do the individual /24 subnets with no problems, but not the /16
[17-Oct-2007 15:54:30] <xoritor> nope
[17-Oct-2007 15:54:41] <xoritor> mine are left aligned
[17-Oct-2007 15:55:55] <jsm> yeah then something's messed up with mine
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:10] <xoritor> do you have a custom style sheet defined
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:12] <xoritor> ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:19] <xoritor> or no script installed?
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:31] <xoritor> or anything that could mess with the css or js on the page?
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:32] <jsm> no.. haven't done any customizing of zenoss
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:36] <xoritor> ie... greasemonkey
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:40] <jsm> oh
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:43] <xoritor> i mean in firefox
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:45] <jsm> i do have some plugins
[17-Oct-2007 15:57:10] <xoritor> check to see if you have to let those "allow" your zenoss host:port
[17-Oct-2007 15:57:52] <jsm> even my Mibs are centered
[17-Oct-2007 15:57:59] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:12] <jsm> never had a problem before the upgrade though
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:17] <xoritor> hmm
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:18] <xoritor> odd
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:21] <jsm> i should try opera
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:25] <xoritor> maybe its the new css
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:33] <xoritor> opera is UGLY
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:46] <xoritor> well zenoss in opera is ugly
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:04] <xoritor> about the only thing the new one works in is firefox
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:32] <jsm> actually
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:36] <jsm> it looks fine in Opera
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:39] <jsm> weird
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:50] <jsm> gotta be a plugin conflict then, i think you're right
[17-Oct-2007 16:00:22] <jsm> you using 2.0.0.5?
[17-Oct-2007 16:00:25] <jsm> ffox?
[17-Oct-2007 16:01:48] <xoritor> Fedora/2.0.0.5-1.fc7 Firefox/2.0.0.5
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:07] <jsm> same as me
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:12] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:29] <xoritor> most things look "ok" in opera
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:37] <jsm> weird
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:37] <xoritor> but the dashboard is fubar
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:41] <jsm> i can't figure it out
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:49] <jsm> i have flash block
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:54] <jsm> but i enabled it for my site
[17-Oct-2007 16:03:23] <xoritor> flush your cache close ff and restart it
[17-Oct-2007 16:03:37] <xoritor> there maybe a bad "cache" for that css
[17-Oct-2007 16:03:43] <xoritor> bbiab
[17-Oct-2007 16:06:55] <davetoo> w00t!
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:04] <davetoo> let the downloads begin
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:46] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:49] <jaredo> with 2.0.93, i am having issues with perf graphs displaying
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:53] <jaredo> anyone know of any pending issues?
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:04] <xoritor> jaredo: they have released 2.1
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:05] <jaredo> perf graphs when monitor windows machines only
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:06] <jsm> i'm having some CSS issues with firefox
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:09] <jaredo> oh really
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:09] <xoritor> maybe try the upgrade
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:18] <xoritor> jsm: more than just in zenoss now?
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:05] <jsm> xoritor: ! clearing the cache did it
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:06] <jsm> thanks
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:41] <xoritor> :-D
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:50] <xoritor> np... ff cache is EVIL
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:51] <xoritor> ;-)
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:52] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 16:14:48] <Djavo> hello
[17-Oct-2007 16:14:51] <Djavo> to all
[17-Oct-2007 16:17:29] <Djavo> hello to all
[17-Oct-2007 16:18:37] <Djavo> i need some helt for zenoss i traj to log in on Vmplayer bac i can no i use admin/zenoss user/pass and i can't log in
[17-Oct-2007 16:18:50] <Djavo> does sombodi have idea whot is problem
[17-Oct-2007 16:22:16] <jaredo> is there an easy way to upgrade to 2.1 from .93? or is it recommended to reinstall from scratch
[17-Oct-2007 16:22:52] <jaredo> djavo: are you trying to login to the web interface or to the command prompt of the virtual server
[17-Oct-2007 16:24:42] <monrad> i am trying to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.1.0 right now
[17-Oct-2007 16:25:34] <stevesz> I'm looking for all permission needs to debug a permission issue I get reported when firing up. It's not the 04750/zenoss settings, nor the sudo settings. Running V 2.0.6.
[17-Oct-2007 16:25:45] <Djavo> i tray login to the web interface whit admin/zenoss and i can't
[17-Oct-2007 16:26:48] <Djavo> on virtyal mashin i tipe root and i loging on localhot bat i can do enithig
[17-Oct-2007 16:28:00] <Djavo> jaredo do you ther
[17-Oct-2007 16:31:56] <Djavo> ..
[17-Oct-2007 16:32:56] <stevesz> Djavo, what country are you from?
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:04] <Djavo> serbia
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:09] <Djavo>
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:15] <Djavo> you
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:39] <stevesz> That would explain the hard to read English. US
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:54] <Djavo> hehehe
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:56] <Djavo> no
[17-Oct-2007 16:34:12] <Djavo> i do 3 work in one time
[17-Oct-2007 16:34:26] <Djavo> i can't tipe in all in 1s
[17-Oct-2007 16:35:08] <Djavo> i finde zoness soft and whot to test because i use zabbix bat i whot to tray zenoss to
[17-Oct-2007 16:35:26] <Djavo> bat i can't login in zenoss
[17-Oct-2007 16:36:31] <stevesz> I can't type it all in 1 sec either, but I still have a hard time understanding what you say.
[17-Oct-2007 16:36:57] <stevesz> So you are saying you use zabbix but you want to try zenoss too?
[17-Oct-2007 16:37:19] <Djavo> yes
[17-Oct-2007 16:37:47] <Djavo> i whot to try zenoss i download and load in virtual mashine
[17-Oct-2007 16:38:27] <stevesz> The login name is admin and the password is whatever you made it. Just make sure it is running first. You can run $ZENHOME/bin/zenoss status
[17-Oct-2007 16:38:54] <stevesz> whot is want, bat is but
[17-Oct-2007 16:39:05] <Djavo> hmm
[17-Oct-2007 16:39:09] <Djavo> 2sek to try
[17-Oct-2007 16:40:29] <Djavo> i cen't log in i gat The credentials you supplied were not correct or did not grant access to this resource.
[17-Oct-2007 16:41:54] <stevesz> Sounds like you don't know what your password is. But I'm new too so I could be wrong.
[17-Oct-2007 16:42:06] <stevesz> install it again
[17-Oct-2007 16:42:34] <Djavo> i run on virtual mashine
[17-Oct-2007 16:42:55] <stevesz> what does that got to do with anything?
[17-Oct-2007 16:43:27] <stevesz> Ah, resource. The problem is in the VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:44:13] <Djavo> hmm
[17-Oct-2007 16:44:23] <Djavo> in VM?
[17-Oct-2007 16:44:51] <stevesz> Well the word resource is probably related to the virtual machine
[17-Oct-2007 16:46:03] <Djavo> you have idea howe to made on VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:46:20] <Djavo> to test only
[17-Oct-2007 16:47:07] <stevesz> How to make zenoss run in VM? No. But they have a vm module prepared.
[17-Oct-2007 16:47:55] <stevesz> Also you are supposed to browse to port 8080
[17-Oct-2007 16:47:58] <Djavo> yes i download prepared vm modul
[17-Oct-2007 16:48:30] <Djavo> and run on VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:48:37] <stevesz> ?
[17-Oct-2007 16:48:39] <Djavo> tray now on 8080 bat nothing
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:04] <stevesz> sorry, I don't know what your problem is
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:07] <Djavo> https://10.194.176.30:8080/ ... and nothnig
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:23] <stevesz> I'm here trying to get help myself
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:33] <Djavo> do you have maby msn ...
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:37] <stevesz> Try without https just http
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:42] <Djavo> try
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:45] <Djavo> nothing
[17-Oct-2007 16:50:18] <Djavo> i try to update VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:50:19] <stevesz> no I don't use anything ms related if I can avoid it.
[17-Oct-2007 16:50:51] <Djavo> heh... AIM mobby
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:09] <stevesz> I can't help you anyway...
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:17] <stevesz> mobby=maybe
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:23] <Djavo> yes
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:43] <Djavo> a im hungry
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:45] <Djavo>
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:56] <stevesz> I am hungry
[17-Oct-2007 16:52:56] <Djavo> da... I not a ---- da=yes on serbian
[17-Oct-2007 16:53:26] <Djavo> you instal on linux or on VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:53:44] <stevesz> Linux
[17-Oct-2007 16:54:31] <stevesz> I'm off to lunch now...
[17-Oct-2007 16:55:38] <Djavo> ok bay and tnks
[17-Oct-2007 17:10:34] <m1r> hej djavle
[17-Oct-2007 17:11:39] <Djavo> hej
[17-Oct-2007 17:12:20] <m1r> pvt chat
[17-Oct-2007 17:12:59] <Djavo> ok
[17-Oct-2007 17:21:42] <Bulwinkle> !java
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[17-Oct-2007 19:10:16] * Bulwinkle YAWNS!
[17-Oct-2007 19:11:43] <Bulwinkle> is everyone running 2.1 sucessfully now?
[17-Oct-2007 19:25:44] <jaredo> Anyone else have issues with performance graphs for windows servers using the windows snmp client?
[17-Oct-2007 19:38:34] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: nope... are you using snmpinformant?
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:31] <Bulwinkle> anyone debug this error for me? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/220691
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:46] <jaredo> i was just read something about snmp informant
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:48] <jaredo> not familiar with it
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:58] <jaredo> what is it / usage?
[17-Oct-2007 19:42:06] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: zenoss needs it installed to pull SNMP information from Windows Servers
[17-Oct-2007 19:42:40] <jaredo> is it a full replacement for the windows snmp service or an addon/mib?
[17-Oct-2007 19:42:55] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: the latter... quite harmless
[17-Oct-2007 19:43:09] <jaredo> found the dl
[17-Oct-2007 19:43:11] <jaredo> thanks
[17-Oct-2007 19:43:39] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: no problem...
[17-Oct-2007 19:49:39] <jaredo> yep that was it
[17-Oct-2007 19:55:49] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: as long as you don't mind loading snmpinformant on all of your servers it will work great
[17-Oct-2007 20:29:25] <monrad> does anyone have zeopack working?
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[17-Oct-2007 23:48:14] <eurowerke> Bulwinkle: is zenwin supposed to replace snmp-informant?
[17-Oct-2007 23:49:10] <eurowerke> some of the info seems to make it seem like there's multiple ways to do certain things in zenoss
[17-Oct-2007 23:49:15] <eurowerke> that's what I get frustrated with
[17-Oct-2007 23:49:15] <eurowerke> heh
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[18-Oct-2007 08:55:12] <incorrect> i've just upgraded to version 2.1, in the locations iframe on the dashboard i seem to have a big error
[18-Oct-2007 09:51:32] <incorrect> ok so you can't upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> install.txt help, I'm installing 2.1.0 and keep getting the following error... cp externallibs/setuptools*.egg build/simplejson-1.4
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> installing simplejson
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[18-Oct-2007 11:45:19] <FEON> mysql is assessable just fine via mysql -u zenoss -p goodpassword
[18-Oct-2007 12:40:39] <incorrect> roar
[18-Oct-2007 13:13:25] <virge> hi
[18-Oct-2007 13:14:29] <virge> is there a way to use a munin-node as a source of information for zenoss?
[18-Oct-2007 13:33:03] <incorrect> is anyone else finding bugs in 2.1?
[18-Oct-2007 13:36:01] <jaredo> FEON is that a fresh mysql install or do you have other databases on there as well
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[18-Oct-2007 14:20:05] <FEON> jaredo: mysql pre-exit with other databases
[18-Oct-2007 14:24:20] <FEON> jaredo: you still around
[18-Oct-2007 14:32:30] <jaredo> you could set the database root password blank for 30seconds while doing the install
[18-Oct-2007 14:33:21] <progma> FEON: what's your ip
[18-Oct-2007 14:34:04] <jaredo> ive never installed zenoss from source so not sure what steps it takes for the user account or default mysql creds
[18-Oct-2007 14:34:33] <jaredo> root@localhost that is
[18-Oct-2007 14:36:25] <FEON> ok, the problem is from source install.... trying now to extract out what this error is but not having much luck.....
[18-Oct-2007 15:01:43] <FEON> is there a fix for the install so it uses the proper python release (aka 2.5 and not 2.4)?
[18-Oct-2007 15:20:20] <stevesz> I thought it did not support 2.5
[18-Oct-2007 15:20:49] <FEON> stevesz, i just edited the install files so far so good
[18-Oct-2007 15:22:47] <stevesz> Hmm, the notes I read specifically said not to use 2.4 or above, but it was for V2.0.6
[18-Oct-2007 15:23:47] <fiXXXerMe1> I'm about to reinstall one of my servers (ubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.10). Is it hard/easy to copy/move over a zenoss install?
[18-Oct-2007 15:24:24] <FEON> stevesz, you maybe right, the install just failed.....
[18-Oct-2007 15:25:55] <stevesz> fiXXerMe1, It's impossible. If you do the gnome will erase your harddisk.
[18-Oct-2007 15:33:40] <fiXXXerMe1> stevesz: Well can I copy the data to an external location, reinstall, and the copy zenoss back?
[18-Oct-2007 15:33:57] <kgoedte1> i would assume you can
[18-Oct-2007 15:34:00] <stevesz> The gnome will get ya
[18-Oct-2007 15:34:11] <kgoedte1> copy events db and $ZENHOME
[18-Oct-2007 15:34:20] <stevesz> Of course I'm just messing around
[18-Oct-2007 15:36:47] <incorrect> zenoss 2.1 is very slow at displaying the dashboard
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[18-Oct-2007 18:36:00] <jfnormand> Hi, someone knows if the version 2.1 support snmpdv3 finally ?
[18-Oct-2007 20:52:10] <darkhorse> after upgrading from 2.0.6 to 2.1.0, zenperfsnmp, zencommand, and zenprocess fail to start with the following error: TypeError: iteration over non-sequence
[18-Oct-2007 20:58:26] <darkhorse> it looks like others are getting the same error (on the forum) but no solution
[18-Oct-2007 21:23:58] <kgoedte1> probably corrupt events db :]
[18-Oct-2007 21:24:48] <kgoedte1> otherwise probably need to re-run the migration manually
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[18-Oct-2007 22:02:46] <darkhorse> hmm, i have re-run migration (zenmigrate)
[18-Oct-2007 22:02:51] <darkhorse> that didnt fix it
[18-Oct-2007 23:20:58] <eurowerke> anyone know why, when I logn to zenoss, if I have opened the page by hostname, login fails, but when it's by ip, login works?
[18-Oct-2007 23:21:34] <eurowerke> e.g. http://zenoss:8080/ vs. http://10.10.1.10:8080
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[19-Oct-2007 02:36:22] <stevesz> <eurowerke>: Sounds like a misconfigured name resolution
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[19-Oct-2007 17:59:27] <jaredo> under the OS tab on a device
[19-Oct-2007 17:59:42] <jaredo> interfaces have a red/green light under O and A
[19-Oct-2007 17:59:48] <jaredo> what does the O and A stand for?
[19-Oct-2007 18:09:54] <qubix> jaredo: O == online and A == active
[19-Oct-2007 18:16:42] <jaredo> thats what i thought
[19-Oct-2007 18:16:52] <jaredo> but then how can some interfaces be Red/O - Green/A
[19-Oct-2007 18:16:59] <jaredo> not online but active?
[19-Oct-2007 18:18:06] <jaredo> pretty much all windows monitored interfaces show up like that
[19-Oct-2007 18:18:21] <jaredo> even though they are functioning normal
[19-Oct-2007 18:19:21] <jaredo> and the cisco interfaces i see like that are down/down
[19-Oct-2007 18:20:01] <jaredo> so is A for active in zenoss? or the interface is actually active
[19-Oct-2007 18:59:40] <eurowerke> s
[19-Oct-2007 19:04:31] <eurowerke> anyone having trouble with the device list on 2.1?
[19-Oct-2007 19:04:36] <eurowerke> sometimes it doesn't load up
[19-Oct-2007 19:04:46] <eurowerke> just sits with the "Loading" grey box in the middle of the screen
[19-Oct-2007 19:11:13] <jaredo> whats the processor usage when its happening?
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:01] <eurowerke> hmm
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:16] <eurowerke> 9%
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:55] <eurowerke> wacky
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:59] <eurowerke> i'm not liking 2.1 very much
[19-Oct-2007 19:15:10] <eurowerke> oddities like this that suddenly started happening
[19-Oct-2007 19:15:56] <eurowerke> it also freaked out the alerting for some reason too, started getting a bunch of emails about switches going to ridiculous levels of cpu usage (e.g. 83,000%)
[19-Oct-2007 19:15:58] <eurowerke> haha
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:09] <progma> wups
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:15] <progma> minor detail
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:17] <eurowerke> haha
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:34] <eurowerke> obviously impossible
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:34] <jaredo> so far 2.1 has been good for me
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:37] <eurowerke> blech
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:39] <jaredo> but its killing cpu usage
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:43] <jaredo> and loading extremely slow
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:51] <eurowerke> yea
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:53] <eurowerke> mine has been steady
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:16] <jaredo> then again some of the routers ive been adding have 300 interfaces
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:24] <eurowerke> what's the third value using `top` for cpu usage?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:27] <eurowerke> 5 min avg?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:39] <eurowerke> 15min?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:40] <jaredo> nice?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:40] <eurowerke> i forget
[19-Oct-2007 19:18:45] <progma> 15
[19-Oct-2007 19:18:54] <progma> you mean load avg right
[19-Oct-2007 19:18:56] <progma> 1 5 15
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:12] <progma> that's not really cpu usage tho
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:20] <progma> google around for the endless debate about load average
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:27] <adytum-bot> http://www.ousa.ca/uploaded_files/pdf_files/Government%20Submissions/Sumbission%20to%20the%20Tution%20Roundtable%20-%20September%202005
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:45] <progma> generally if you use vmstat i.e. "vmstat 5" and see a nonzero number frequently in the "b" column you have issues
[19-Oct-2007 19:20:20] <progma> i've seen load averages of >200 and the server runs fine, although things like sendmail will stop running after like 30 or 40
[19-Oct-2007 19:20:52] <progma> technically it's how many jobs are waiting in the run queue; i got the >200 number from that linux 2.4 kernel bug with df and hung nfs mounts
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:08] <progma> where you can't kill the df process if it hangs on listing a stale nfs mount
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:37] <progma> so, load avg not always accurate picture of cpu load
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:44] <progma> better to watch percentages via top
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:53] <progma> sorry, too much caffeine lol
[19-Oct-2007 19:29:35] <eurowerke> hahah
[19-Oct-2007 19:30:06] <eurowerke> gak
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:20] <eurowerke> what sort of hardware you running it on jaredo?
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:33] <eurowerke> i'm running mine on a vm with 512 megs of ram heh
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:42] <eurowerke> runs great
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:54] <eurowerke> i mean, a linux vm, not the vm appliance
[19-Oct-2007 19:33:07] <eurowerke> my dashboard loads right up
[19-Oct-2007 19:49:38] <davetoo> This version seems quite a bit more prone to database conflict errors
[19-Oct-2007 20:58:42] <progma> this isn't related to zenoss directly, but does anyone have poweredges with windows 2003 running on them
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[19-Oct-2007 22:31:53] <eurowerke> man
[19-Oct-2007 22:31:57] <eurowerke> device list b0rked again
[19-Oct-2007 22:31:58] <eurowerke> blaah
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[20-Oct-2007 00:45:26] <eurowerke> gak
[20-Oct-2007 00:45:33] <eurowerke> device list still won't load
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[20-Oct-2007 08:48:10] <netdata> hi
[20-Oct-2007 08:48:12] <netdata> someone?
[20-Oct-2007 16:30:44] <m11> hello
[20-Oct-2007 19:51:12] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
[20-Oct-2007 20:07:25] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
[20-Oct-2007 22:39:08] <egbill3eagle> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/wlan_adapter/350_cb20a/user/win_ce/2.5/configuration/guide/3CE_appE.html
[20-Oct-2007 22:39:24] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
[20-Oct-2007 22:51:48] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
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[21-Oct-2007 05:16:04] <vyrulian> having some issues with the Google Maps API from a new install - The google Maps API key used on this web site was registered...
[21-Oct-2007 05:16:19] <vyrulian> thoughts/
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[22-Oct-2007 09:59:00] <passie_> morning
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:16] <passie_> i'm getting the following error when trying to upgrade
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:23] <passie_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:23] <passie_> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:28] <passie_> any body has an idea ?
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:38] <passie_> there is no zenbuild.log
[22-Oct-2007 14:31:42] <curunir> hi all.. i'm current evaluating zenoss and i need some help regarding nagios plugins
[22-Oct-2007 14:31:53] <curunir> i need to reuse a large number of nagios plugins
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:00] <curunir> but i'm not being able to configure them properly
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:09] <curunir> i read the docs and i think i understand the concepts
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:20] <curunir> but i cannot configure any nagios plugin to appear on the os tab
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:27] <curunir> i can only configure perfomance graphs..
[22-Oct-2007 14:33:16] <curunir> anyone knows the general guidline to do this?
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[22-Oct-2007 17:01:16] <jsm> i'd like to get my alerts working better... right now i get lots of emails about errors, 90% of which resolve themselves upon the next check that zenoss performs.. how do i setup an alert so that a specific event happens "X" amount of times before the alert is generated?
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[22-Oct-2007 18:01:49] <rdb_> New appliance install, I get "Cannot open the site http://zenoss.xxx.xxx:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/localhost. Operation aborted" when I try to look at a device. Can someone point me in the right direction? Checked logs in the home/zenoss/log folder but no clues there.
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[22-Oct-2007 18:14:43] <rdb_> hrm works on firefox
[22-Oct-2007 18:29:09] <nsipes> Does anyone know of an easy way to load a large number of mibs at once?
[22-Oct-2007 19:05:47] <eurowerke> jsm: i don't know if you can do it so that an event happens X number of times, but you can only delay the alert N number of seconds before an alert it sent
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[22-Oct-2007 19:14:52] <progma> mutil8_:
[22-Oct-2007 19:14:52] <progma> mutil8_:
[22-Oct-2007 19:35:29] <zaf> is it possible to make it to that certain users can only see certain devices/groups?
[22-Oct-2007 19:35:58] <progma> zaf: yes
[22-Oct-2007 19:36:56] <zaf> how?
[22-Oct-2007 19:38:25] <progma> i think in settings then users? i'm not near a zenoss interface but it's definitely possible
[22-Oct-2007 19:39:19] <zaf> hmm
[22-Oct-2007 19:39:54] <zaf> there's an "Admnistered Objects" tab, that that doesn't seem to hide non-adminstered devices from them
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[23-Oct-2007 11:47:23] <passie_> anybody here who could help me with some network card graphs ?
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[23-Oct-2007 16:38:28] <MoreDakka> Anyone alive in here today?
[23-Oct-2007 16:38:50] <davetoo> Not enough coffee yet
[23-Oct-2007 16:39:00] <MoreDakka> So only partly alive ;-)
[23-Oct-2007 16:39:37] <MoreDakka> Here is my system setup FC5, zenoss v1.1.1
[23-Oct-2007 16:40:42] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to get a duplicate system going for testing. Very different hardware but still want to have v1.1.1 What is the best way to do that?
[23-Oct-2007 16:41:25] <MoreDakka> Should I install v1.1.1 on the testbox then tar the zenoss dir on the production box and move it to the test box then overwrite the zenoss dir?
[23-Oct-2007 16:42:03] <davetoo> No
[23-Oct-2007 16:42:23] <davetoo> only ${ZENHOME}/var/Data.*
[23-Oct-2007 16:43:02] <davetoo> You can try the RRD files in ${ZENHOME}/perf/Devices, but the binary RRD format may not be the same
[23-Oct-2007 16:43:20] <davetoo> if that's the case and you want to keep the history you may have to do an rrdtools dump and restore
[23-Oct-2007 16:43:45] <MoreDakka> Not too worried about the history, just the devices and settings for those devices.
[23-Oct-2007 16:44:12] <davetoo> Then all you need is the Zope data from Data.fs and friends. Not the .zec cache files.
[23-Oct-2007 16:45:04] <MoreDakka> Sweet. I'll give that a try. Just need to get Zenoss installed on FC5 now :-/ It's a pain on this OS. CentOS5 and zenoss 2.x is really really easy to install.
[23-Oct-2007 16:45:09] <davetoo> You'll probably then have to run zendisc --routers right afterwards.
[23-Oct-2007 16:47:21] <MoreDakka> thnx man. I'll see if I can get this done :-D
[23-Oct-2007 16:47:37] <MoreDakka> Have you ever heard of or ran untangle and zenoss before (not on the same box)
[23-Oct-2007 16:54:52] <davetoo> Never heard of untangle
[23-Oct-2007 16:56:15] <MoreDakka> It's actually very cool, it would be even cooler if I could get it to not drop all the icmp and other zenoss/cacti traffic that goes through it (Spam, Spyware, Firewall, Router...etc..etc...Free ;-) ) untangle.com
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[23-Oct-2007 18:43:00] <rdb_> I'm new to this, coming from cacti/nagios. I have windows servers added, but no performance graphing is being done. It worked for about 15 minutes when I first manually added a server, but that's been 2 days with no graphing. Also no discovered devices are graphing. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[23-Oct-2007 18:54:25] <davetoo> check that zenperfsnmp is still running
[23-Oct-2007 18:54:34] <davetoo> and if it is, try restarting it. Which version are you running?
[23-Oct-2007 18:54:56] <davetoo> I was having problems with zenperfsnmp hanging in the middle of snmp traffic in zenoss 2.0.90
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:17] <rdb_> 2.1.0
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:22] <rdb_> it is, I'll restart it
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:33] <rdb_> zenhub keeps dying, is that normal?
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:52] <davetoo> I haven't yet run my full load of devices in 2.1.0
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:08] <davetoo> Not normal.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:21] <rdb_> ok, nothing in its logs either so I wasn't sure.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:26] <davetoo> And that would cause the monitoring to stop.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:26] <rdb_> I'll start there.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:37] <davetoo> zenperfsnmp talks to the Zope database via zenhub, I think.
[23-Oct-2007 18:57:18] <rdb_> tail -f * is pretty useful, never knew that would work until I needed it with zenoss
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[23-Oct-2007 21:19:39] <jaredo> I removed the default 75% utilization threshold for the ethernetCsmacd template, now any time i try to view an interface I get a zenoss errro
[23-Oct-2007 21:19:42] <jaredo> *error
[23-Oct-2007 21:20:21] <jaredo> anyone know how templates are stored so i can try to restore the default template?
[23-Oct-2007 21:27:37] <jaredo> or can anyone tell me the values for the default %75 utilization threshold?
[23-Oct-2007 21:36:32] <MoreDakka_> has anyone been able to successfully migrate data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1?
[23-Oct-2007 21:55:49] <rdb_> My Zenhub keeps dying, right after I start it. Nothing in the error logs, and it doesn't complain when I start it from command line. Can someone point me in the right direction to troubleshoot?
[23-Oct-2007 22:02:14] <MoreDakka_> has anyone been able to successfully migrate data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1?
[23-Oct-2007 22:30:53] <tristanbob> easiest way to perform bulk discovery of network devices?
[23-Oct-2007 22:32:27] <rdb_> Device Discovery
[23-Oct-2007 22:33:50] <tristanbob> rdb_: where is that? on web gui? running 2.1 here
[23-Oct-2007 22:34:05] <rdb_> tristanbob; yes, under networks
[23-Oct-2007 22:34:16] <rdb_> tristanbob; check out the quick start guide.
[23-Oct-2007 22:34:32] <tristanbob> rdb_: will do - thanks
[23-Oct-2007 22:35:01] <rdb_> what process handles the web interface? nothing has port 8080 open since a reboot.
[23-Oct-2007 22:44:30] <rdb_> what web server does zenoss use?
[23-Oct-2007 22:44:36] <tristanbob> zope?
[23-Oct-2007 22:44:47] <rdb_> ok so zope should have 8080 open?
[23-Oct-2007 22:52:59] <progma> yup
[23-Oct-2007 22:53:19] <rdb_> thanks yeah it is't running.
[23-Oct-2007 22:56:16] <rdb_> the answer is always delete a zec file...
[23-Oct-2007 22:59:26] <rdb_> yay now it's zenperfsnmp that keeps dying
[23-Oct-2007 22:59:51] <rdb_> this error-less dying thing sucks.
[23-Oct-2007 23:11:38] <progma> rdb_: what are the permissions on your /tmp directory
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[24-Oct-2007 00:51:20] <freaek> good morning, can anyone tell me where the zenpack command would be located on the vmware image?
[24-Oct-2007 00:51:23] <freaek> tis not in the path
[24-Oct-2007 02:35:25] <MoreDakka_> I'm going to assume that no one is on right now?
[24-Oct-2007 02:53:45] <progma> yup
[24-Oct-2007 02:59:05] <MoreDakka_> ha
[24-Oct-2007 03:07:48] <waynemedlin> any one try the Example: Creating new menu items link on the wiki and get it to work
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[24-Oct-2007 07:58:03] <Loady> hi. im using zenoss 2.1. its currenty installed on a dual xeon system. for some reason it seems to use a lot of my resources on that server. The interface also feels sluggishly slow. Can this be due to a misconfiguration from my side?
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[24-Oct-2007 12:13:38] <rdb_> progma; drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Oct 24 10:58 tmp
[24-Oct-2007 12:13:43] <rdb_> (this is an appliance)
[24-Oct-2007 12:35:56] <rdb_> zenperfsnmp starts, checks a few things, runs for about 1 second, starts to gather some stats, then inexplicably disappears
[24-Oct-2007 12:36:00] <rdb_> /dies
[24-Oct-2007 12:37:20] <Robbadub> Gentlemen
[24-Oct-2007 12:37:26] <Robbadub> A moment of your time please
[24-Oct-2007 12:38:57] <Robbadub> Can anyone give me the exact string that is in the DEFAULT SORT field on the tab FIELDS in the zenoss EVENTMANAGER section under management in the main navigator bar.
[24-Oct-2007 12:39:43] <rdb_> ah here's an error, zenperfsnmp run -v10 finally told me "Segmentation fault"
[24-Oct-2007 12:39:47] <rdb_> that's better than nothing I guess.
[24-Oct-2007 12:39:50] <Robbadub> This is beacuse the MySQL query is malformed when entered wrong. This is why my event listings DON'T WORK
[24-Oct-2007 12:40:14] <Robbadub> Please
[24-Oct-2007 12:41:30] <rdb_> Robbadub; there must be a way to monitor/log the mysql queries. It's done using Profiler on MSSQL.
[24-Oct-2007 12:41:55] <Robbadub> I Understand. This is the way we have conlcuded this is an error
[24-Oct-2007 12:42:24] <Robbadub> What has happened is that we altered the field content and now these queries are incorrect
[24-Oct-2007 12:42:50] <Robbadub> We need to know the default field contents so we don't have to re-install zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 12:43:11] <rdb_> Robbadub; download and boot up a vmware system
[24-Oct-2007 12:43:55] <Robbadub> The incorrect queries crash and zenos sez: cannot communicate with the server
[24-Oct-2007 12:44:27] <Robbadub> Oh please . All I ask is someone to look in to that field in the zenoss interface. It is 3 clicks!
[24-Oct-2007 12:45:37] <Robbadub> click eventmanager - fields it is the top field named default sort. I need to know the default contents of that fiels (case sensitive)
[24-Oct-2007 12:54:05] <Robbadub> Can anyone give me the exact string that is in the DEFAULT SORT field on the tab FIELDS in the zenoss EVENTMANAGER section under management in the main navigator bar.
[24-Oct-2007 12:56:54] <rdb_> severity desc, lastTime desc
[24-Oct-2007 13:00:32] <Verilium> Hmm.. Pretty basic question, I'm having a little trouble understanding zenoss conceptually, how would I go about, for example, adding an alert or such, to monitor if port 80 on one of devices is up or not?
[24-Oct-2007 13:28:21] <jaredo> Anyone know where template data is stored?
[24-Oct-2007 13:28:32] <jaredo> Is it stored in the sql database? Or a data file
[24-Oct-2007 13:28:44] <jaredo> The templates themselves
[24-Oct-2007 13:37:39] <darkhorse> i thought they were stored in the zope database
[24-Oct-2007 13:39:40] <jaredo> could you by change give me the info for the default 75% threshold on the ethernetCsmacd template?
[24-Oct-2007 13:40:00] <jaredo> like the threshold name and max value
[24-Oct-2007 13:40:13] <jaredo> *by chance
[24-Oct-2007 13:41:44] <Robbadub> Thank you rdb
[24-Oct-2007 13:44:49] <darkhorse> one sec
[24-Oct-2007 13:45:29] <jaredo> Im trying to dupliate it exactly as it was to see if resolves my error
[24-Oct-2007 13:45:42] <jaredo> I found that removing it makes it so i can view any interface anymore ><
[24-Oct-2007 13:45:48] <darkhorse> hmm, well you can create a local copy
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:14] <jaredo> thats how it got deleted, i thought i was editing a local copy when it turns out i wasnt
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:25] <darkhorse> oh, so you deleted it all...
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:33] <jaredo> no just the threshold
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:38] <jaredo> for the 75% utilization
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:44] <darkhorse> oh ok
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:51] <darkhorse> Utilization 75 perc MinMaxThreshold ifInOctets_ifInOctets, ifOutOctets_ifOutOctets Warning True
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:52] <jaredo> because on the first local copy i remove it on, i was still getting alerts from it
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:13] <jaredo> whats the ID?
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:24] <jaredo> or name listed under thresholds
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:28] <darkhorse> Utilization 75 perc
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:36] <darkhorse> that doesnt really matter
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:56] <darkhorse> you must select the two octet items from the list
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:09] <darkhorse> event class is /Perf/Interface
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:11] <jaredo> maxval?
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:18] <darkhorse> here.speed / 8 * .75
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:45] <darkhorse> kk, gotta run
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:46] <darkhorse> meeting
[24-Oct-2007 13:49:03] <jaredo> lets see if that works
[24-Oct-2007 13:49:04] <jaredo> thanks
[24-Oct-2007 13:49:45] <jaredo> nope :/
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[24-Oct-2007 14:08:05] <MoreDakka_> has anyone been able to successfully migrate data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1?
[24-Oct-2007 14:13:07] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: just bite the bullet and upgrade already
[24-Oct-2007 14:13:42] <MoreDakka_> Ha...that's what I'm trying to do ;-) have a somewhat shiny dell 2550 that will do the jb nicely for this...but I need the data from 1.1.1 :-/
[24-Oct-2007 14:17:14] <MoreDakka_> 2.1 is nice, lots of really nice features and a good layout compaired to 1.1.1. I just need to adjust the css files to make the txt a little smaller as it takes up a lot of monitor real estate
[24-Oct-2007 15:28:17] <pinger> hello
[24-Oct-2007 15:28:36] <pinger> got a standard, generic error message that I'm sure will be easy to answer
[24-Oct-2007 15:28:40] <pinger> is anybody available?
[24-Oct-2007 15:31:15] <Robbadub> what can I do 4 yiu
[24-Oct-2007 15:31:51] <Robbadub> Well gentlemen. Some excellent features in 2.1 but boy what a mess getting it to work
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:04] * Robbadub is not amused
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:18] <MoreDakka_> heh, you should try to migrate date vrom v1.1.1 -> 2.1
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:28] <MoreDakka_> Now that's a mess.
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:57] <Robbadub> I'm considering re-install
[24-Oct-2007 15:33:41] <Robbadub> Buttah... love to chat but gotta run ... bye
[24-Oct-2007 15:34:07] <rdb_> I have a zenperfsnmp that keeps dying (segfault) when I have Cisco 3560 switches added. Delete the switches, zenperfsnmp runs fine...
[24-Oct-2007 15:40:23] <rdb_> And good ol' Tripp Lite UPS's all report their names as "Tripp Lite" so Zenoss thinks they're all the same device...
[24-Oct-2007 15:40:24] <PerlStalker> Is it possible to attach a KML file to a device to show on the Google map?
[24-Oct-2007 15:44:53] <MoreDakka_> rdb_: Go into your device in Zenoss click on the drop down menu -> Manage -> Rename Device
[24-Oct-2007 15:46:45] <rdb_> MoreDakka_; yeah I am. But it keeps device discovery from working and I have 60 of these. Oh well, shouldn't buy tripplite anymore...
[24-Oct-2007 15:47:13] <MoreDakka_> Can you change the hostname on the device itself?
[24-Oct-2007 15:47:29] <rdb_> yeah, but apparently that isn't what gets reported to Zenoss via SNMP
[24-Oct-2007 15:47:50] <MoreDakka_> odd.
[24-Oct-2007 15:48:07] <MoreDakka_> I'm just getting into 2.1 from 1.1.1 so I'm a little behind the times.
[24-Oct-2007 15:48:23] <rdb_> I'm not surprised there have been a lot of bugs in TrippLite's UPS management card code/firmware since we started using them.
[24-Oct-2007 16:07:05] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[24-Oct-2007 16:46:18] <jsm> is there a documented procedure for moving a zenoss site from one server to another? i'd like to preserve all the data i've collected
[24-Oct-2007 16:51:57] <kgoedte1> all you need is the events db and $ZENHOME
[24-Oct-2007 17:32:08] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[24-Oct-2007 17:36:14] <bkingx> Greetings! need help installing Ver 2.1 on Ubuntu Gutsy Server.
[24-Oct-2007 17:45:24] <bkingx> Anyone around today?
[24-Oct-2007 17:46:24] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[24-Oct-2007 17:46:33] <MoreDakka_> Sorta...I would help you with your question but I've never used Ubuntu
[24-Oct-2007 17:47:55] <bkingx> No worries.
[24-Oct-2007 17:48:24] <bkingx> I am wondering if I installed the server incorrectly to begin with
[24-Oct-2007 17:48:45] <bkingx> I installed and configured the main user as zenoss.
[24-Oct-2007 17:49:34] <bkingx> Do you think this might be causing problems especially in the steps for creating the zenoss user?
[24-Oct-2007 17:49:50] <MoreDakka_> rather then admin?
[24-Oct-2007 17:51:31] <bkingx> MoreDakka_: yes
[24-Oct-2007 17:51:51] <bkingx> When installing Ubuntu yo ucan designate the default user (not root).
[24-Oct-2007 17:52:11] <bkingx> I am thinking maybe I should have chosen something other than zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 17:52:33] <MoreDakka_> Ah, right I see what you're saying now, so your root user is zenoss...right?
[24-Oct-2007 17:55:20] <bkingx> Well, sort of. Root is root, but is not typically used in Ubuntu. You usually run commands with root access by using sudo.
[24-Oct-2007 18:12:34] <progma> bkingx: so you setup your default non-user account as zenoss instead, of say, bkingx ?
[24-Oct-2007 18:12:44] <progma> bkingx: you should change that if that gave user zenoss sudo privileges
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:10] <progma> bkingx: i haven't done an ubuntu install from scratch as i've been progressively upgrading since dapper drake, but redhat does a similar thing on install where it asks you to enter a non-root user, is that what you mean
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:27] <bkingx> progma: exactly
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:43] <bkingx> We need to add that little hint to the Install docs.
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:54] <bkingx> I am fixing that now.
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:54] PerlStalker is now known as PS-afk
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:14] <progma> bkingx: what does /etc/sudoers say
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:28] <bkingx> Root and Admin group
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:53] <progma> ah ok, definite change
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:55] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[24-Oct-2007 18:15:44] <progma> or some caveat that says if you do that and don't want to rollback your install, edit sudoers accordingly
[24-Oct-2007 18:17:29] <bkingx> progma: yup! I am following the Fiesty install steps now and seeing what might need to be updated for Gutsy.
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:14] <bkingx> Hmm...no luck
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:36] <bkingx> mkdir: cannot create directory `build': Permission denied
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:37] <bkingx> make: *** [testZenHome] Error 1
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:37] <bkingx> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[24-Oct-2007 18:27:33] <bkingx> Well, fixed it.
[24-Oct-2007 18:28:25] <bkingx> Since I had untarred the package using the original zenoss, I had to remove that and extract again using the "new" zenoss user.
[24-Oct-2007 18:53:37] <MoreDakka_> anyone know how to totally remove Zenoss from a system?
[24-Oct-2007 18:58:09] <progma> MoreDakka_: did you do an rpm install? and why would you want to do that?
[24-Oct-2007 18:58:44] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I did an rpm install and I want to do it so I can try a fresh install of zenoss to import from 1.1.1
[24-Oct-2007 18:58:47] <MoreDakka_> again.
[24-Oct-2007 18:59:30] <progma> gotcha, what version is installed? you should just be able to uninstall the rpm
[24-Oct-2007 18:59:58] <progma> i'm not sure about 1.x though, if the rpm uninstall will delete the zenoss user, remove the events db and delete everything /opt though
[24-Oct-2007 19:01:18] <MoreDakka_> I'm not removing 1.1.1 but want to remove 2.1
[24-Oct-2007 19:01:32] <progma> you have both installed on the same system?
[24-Oct-2007 19:01:35] <progma> oh oh
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:02] <progma> "rpm -qa |grep zenoss"
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:08] <MoreDakka_> Nope, two different systems. v1.1.1 is our production server and I'm doing an upgrade but on a different server.
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:13] <progma> ok good
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:39] <progma> "rpm -e `rpm -qa |grep zenoss`" without the double quotes
[24-Oct-2007 19:03:16] <progma> better to manually do it as you may have other packages related to zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 19:03:35] <MoreDakka_> "error: can't create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/__db.000"
[24-Oct-2007 19:04:15] <progma> rpm -qa |grep zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 19:04:18] <progma> get the name of the rpm
[24-Oct-2007 19:04:22] <progma> rpm -e that name
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:03] <MoreDakka_> same error
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:31] <progma> ps auxw |grep rpm
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:40] <progma> are you running as root or a privileged user?
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:47] <MoreDakka_> Haha...oops
[24-Oct-2007 19:06:09] <progma>
[24-Oct-2007 19:09:08] <progma> then login to mysql and make sure there's no events db
[24-Oct-2007 19:10:28] <MoreDakka_> Probably delete $ZENHOME as well?
[24-Oct-2007 19:10:39] <progma> yes, that's next
[24-Oct-2007 19:10:52] <progma> although the rpm uninstall should do that, it's best to be sure
[24-Oct-2007 19:11:27] <MoreDakka_> what's the mysql command to drop a database? drop databse?
[24-Oct-2007 19:12:21] <progma> it's still there?
[24-Oct-2007 19:12:34] <MoreDakka_> Yeah the events dbase is still there.
[24-Oct-2007 19:15:30] <progma> yes, "DROP DATABASE events ; "
[24-Oct-2007 19:17:00] <MoreDakka_> Alright, so dropped that dbase, removed the home dir of zenoss and removed /opt/zenoss from the system. That should be clean now right>?
[24-Oct-2007 19:18:47] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[24-Oct-2007 19:19:38] <progma> MoreDakka_: yup
[24-Oct-2007 19:20:26] <progma> did you have zenoss-plugins installed
[24-Oct-2007 19:23:21] <MoreDakka_> nope
[24-Oct-2007 19:24:07] <progma> so you're going to install 1.1.1 and test the upgrade, eh
[24-Oct-2007 19:26:47] <MoreDakka_> Nope. This is going to be the new server and I'm going to try to get the data from our production server onto the "new" server.
[24-Oct-2007 19:26:59] <MoreDakka_> yay for well priced dell 2550
[24-Oct-2007 19:27:06] <MoreDakka_> ($200) :-D
[24-Oct-2007 19:37:10] <progma> not bad
[24-Oct-2007 19:37:56] <progma> one place i do work for, that's what i've got zenoss, cacti and zabbix on, just one pe 2550
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:11] <MoreDakka_> I just like the idea that this thing will have redundent hdds and power supplies.
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:23] <MoreDakka_> Yeah we are going to have zenoss and cacti. What is zabbix?
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:40] <progma> zabbix is another oss monitoring system that i first started with
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:54] <MoreDakka_> have you used nagios?
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:59] <progma> similar to nagios but has built-in graphing
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:01] <progma> oh yes
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:08] <progma> nagios is like, too little too late lol
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:21] <MoreDakka_> Out of all the ones that you've used, which is the best (in your opinion)?
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:29] <progma> zenoss by a mile
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:34] <progma> if just for the autodiscovery feature
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:49] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I'm going to see how well that works.
[24-Oct-2007 19:40:19] <progma> if you've got snmp configured properly on all the devices you want to monitor, it works like a champ
[24-Oct-2007 19:40:39] <progma> i think some people run the discovery not keeping that in mind and get upset when it doesn't get everything they want
[24-Oct-2007 19:46:54] <MoreDakka_> bah, didn't work....ugly errors....
[24-Oct-2007 19:47:10] <MoreDakka_> Hope cluther takes another look at my post.
[24-Oct-2007 19:56:19] <progma> ?
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:05] <MoreDakka_> Take a look at the uglyness. (cluther was helping me earlier) http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12234#12234
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:06] <progma> you're doing a fresh install ?
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:08] <progma> ok
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - migrating data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1...doesn't like me. (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:34] <MoreDakka_> Yeah fresh install, nothing else on this sytem other then CentOS 5 and zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 19:59:25] <progma> yah that's way over my head :|
[24-Oct-2007 19:59:38] <MoreDakka_> Yeah...it's gross.
[24-Oct-2007 20:01:16] <MoreDakka_> I just hope I can get that to work or I'll have to re-enter 150+ devices manually
[24-Oct-2007 20:10:01] <bkingx> OK, so who here is working for Zenoss?
[24-Oct-2007 20:10:26] <bkingx> I have an updated install doc for Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon)
[24-Oct-2007 20:37:41] <eurowerke> ahhh!
[24-Oct-2007 20:40:43] <bkingx> eurowerke: ?
[24-Oct-2007 21:01:48] <tristanbob> why doesn't zenoss have an installable ISO?
[24-Oct-2007 21:01:59] <tristanbob> I thought that was easy with rpath
[24-Oct-2007 21:02:29] <MoreDakka_> It's a pretty easy install without the ISO...I'm a linux newb and I was able to do it with CentOS 5 no problem.
[24-Oct-2007 21:03:32] <tristanbob> yes, because you had an RPM
[24-Oct-2007 21:03:38] <tristanbob> I want to install on Ubuntu
[24-Oct-2007 21:05:05] <MoreDakka_> Ha...wow...there are alot of steps to install on Ubuntu...
[24-Oct-2007 21:13:00] <tristanbob> I saw that bkingx is working on a doc...
[24-Oct-2007 21:13:11] <tristanbob> I also heard people were working on an ubuntu package
[24-Oct-2007 21:14:40] <progma> i've got it running in feisty fawn right now; it was a bit of a pain but runs fine
[24-Oct-2007 21:15:30] <progma> tristanbob: you know who's working on it? if not i might give a stab at rolling my first deb
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:16] <tristanbob> progma: I saw it in the zenoss forums....
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:19] <tristanbob> let me find the post
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:29] <tristanbob> I think there is even a debian ITP for it...
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:30] <progma> no prob i can find it
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:40] <progma> now that would be a surprise
[24-Oct-2007 21:19:21] <tristanbob> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361253
[24-Oct-2007 21:19:39] <adytum-bot> Title: #361253 - ITP: zenoss -- infrastucture monitoring and managment system - Debian Bug report logs (at bugs.debian.org)
[24-Oct-2007 21:21:04] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[24-Oct-2007 21:22:55] <progma> sweet
[24-Oct-2007 21:23:08] <progma> i'd much rather run zenoss on a debian based system
[24-Oct-2007 21:24:17] <MoreDakka_> So since i'm a linux newb, what's bad about centos?
[24-Oct-2007 21:24:58] <progma> MoreDakka_: you depend on the centos community to rebuild everything from source that redhat offers with their subscription service
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:18] <progma> which is awesome, but in the long term i just don't know about that being viable in an enterprise environment
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:45] <PerlStalker> How is that different from depending on the community to rebuild everything from source for apt?
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:47] <MoreDakka_> But it is much easier to work with for people that are new to it plus it's extremely stable.
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:47] <progma> ubuntu is debian with non-free software, and the debian community is 100% dedicated to oss
[24-Oct-2007 21:26:43] <progma> PerlStalker: good point, i think it's the approach though - debian is debian, while centos tries to be redhat
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:24] <kgoedte1> more like, centos is redhat without the RHN/entitlement BS and pointless tech support
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:36] <kgoedte1> thats the way i see it
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:49] <MoreDakka_> Uh oh...might have started a linux war... :-/
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:57] <kgoedte1> i love debian too
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:04] <kgoedte1> i just think you are offbase on centos
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:10] <PerlStalker> That's OK. I'm in the Gentoo camp
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:25] <PerlStalker> Binaries are for wimps ;-)
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:29] <progma> haha
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:34] <kgoedte1> gentoo is fine if you want to compile everything. more power to yah :]
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:49] <progma> or people who don't have tons of time to watch it all compile
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:02] <kgoedte1> meh compiling doesnt take that long
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:13] <PerlStalker> Depends on how you distribute your ebuilds
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:15] <kgoedte1> i compile all the major services on my servers
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:23] <progma> yah i'm just trolling
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:07] <kgoedte1> im migrating everything to virtual machines that are cloned using standard images... so i dont build much from scratch more than 1 time anymore
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:31] <PerlStalker> Works pretty well that way.
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:41] <progma> i agree
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:44] <progma> no need for kickstart images etc
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:52] <progma> just bare metal copy it
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:10] <progma> or clone the guest images i mean
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:13] <kgoedte1> cloning a box and having another copy running in under 5 minutes is very nice :]
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:39] <progma> what host os and virtualization tech do you use, kgoedte1
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:50] <kgoedte1> centos5 and xen
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:51] <MoreDakka_> That was going to be my question
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:02] <PerlStalker> What do you use to admin xen?
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:10] <progma> nice, i am thinking of moving in that direction
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:15] <tristanbob> I just think that rpath enables simple ISO installers - many other rpath virtual appliances have the installable ISO
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:28] <kgoedte1> i started with virt manager but i am moving to all custom scripts written in bash/perl
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:35] <progma> i have read that xen kicks the pants off of vmware when it's all linux
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:42] <kgoedte1> it is very fast
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:56] <kgoedte1> and i havent seen any stability issues or odd behavior
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:04] <PerlStalker> I like xen but vmware's admin console is really nice.
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:26] <kgoedte1> but it costs money too
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:44] <PerlStalker> The basic server doesn't but that's definitely a concern.
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:57] <kgoedte1> eventually i plan to investigate KVM for virtualization, but xen works for now
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:12] <kgoedte1> i will wait for the kernel to mature more
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:17] <progma> well if you use the basic server and host linux
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:26] <progma> there is the clock tick issue
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:46] <kgoedte1> i have opensolaris 5.11 running under xen as of yesterday also
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:16] <progma> kgoedte1: have you messed with solaris 10's zones at all
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:21] <kgoedte1> in the hope that we can cease purchasing sparc machines and invest completely in x86 hardware
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:41] <progma> yah sparc is dead, the new niagara stuff is hot tho
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:59] <kgoedte1> i played with zone briefly, but we opted to not use them... but it was probably a mistake
[24-Oct-2007 21:36:11] <progma> not enough time in the day!
[24-Oct-2007 21:36:47] <kgoedte1> we modify shared memory but arent using a zone... cron has issues because of it
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:22] <kgoedte1> my biggest problem with solaris are the primitive non-gnu utils
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:23] <progma> what is your x86 hardware on
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:32] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone describe System and Group...what you might set them as? Location is pretty much self explained.
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:34] <progma> dell?
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:38] <kgoedte1> dell yah
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:57] <progma> yah, and having to use unsigned blastware pkgs and such is sketchy
[24-Oct-2007 21:38:21] <progma> nexenta is interesting but haven't messed with it
[24-Oct-2007 21:38:33] <kgoedte1> especially when a lot of our legacy stuff was scripted specifically with the solaris binaries
[24-Oct-2007 21:38:55] <kgoedte1> so if you get something in your path that supercedes the solaris crap... you are in for some excitement
[24-Oct-2007 21:39:31] <kgoedte1> but i must say, i do love dtrace and wish linux had an equivalent
[24-Oct-2007 21:39:44] <kgoedte1> it is by far the best debugging/performance tool
[24-Oct-2007 21:39:57] <progma> yup same with libraries and different compilers
[24-Oct-2007 21:40:05] <progma> yah dtrace rules
[24-Oct-2007 21:40:38] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[24-Oct-2007 21:49:19] <MoreDakka_> Can I add a next hope to a gateway that I can only ping and no snmp? (Internal network -> (vlan1) Cisco871 -> (fa4) Cisco 871 -> Telus Gateway
[24-Oct-2007 21:57:16] <eurowerke> bkingx: i said ahh because I finally got my DNS problem sorted out
[24-Oct-2007 21:57:35] <eurowerke> so now I can connect to IRC directly from my local computer instead of ssh'ing to a remote host to get to the channel
[24-Oct-2007 21:57:42] <eurowerke> lol
[24-Oct-2007 21:59:26] phil is now known as filc
[24-Oct-2007 22:00:18] <eurowerke> speaking of virtual servers...
[24-Oct-2007 22:00:38] <eurowerke> anyone of you running a linux virtual server under virtserver 2005 and solve the host time sync issue?
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:12] <eurowerke> the instructions I've found online tell you to download the server additions for linux and refer to a file it includes that isn't included in the additions file I downloaded
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:31] <eurowerke> and it apparently only works on RHEL and such
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:34] <eurowerke> FC
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:47] <eurowerke> looking for debian-variant way to fix it
[24-Oct-2007 22:03:38] <eurowerke> loses about an hour or two every day or day.5 or so
[24-Oct-2007 22:03:53] <eurowerke> a little too much drift for ntp to handle, apparently
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:13] <progma> eurowerke: not sure about debian, don't you have to recompile the kernel to use a clock tick of 250 instead of 1000? let me dig around
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:28] <eurowerke> i'm already using the kernel param clock=pit
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:31] <eurowerke> that certainly helped
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:34] <eurowerke> but it's still waaaaay off
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:43] <progma> use xen lol
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:46] <eurowerke> heh
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:55] <eurowerke> don't have a linux server I could install it on
[24-Oct-2007 22:05:05] <progma> is the host os synching with an ntp server
[24-Oct-2007 22:05:35] <eurowerke> yeah host os is syncing NTP
[24-Oct-2007 22:09:15] <eurowerke> testing
[24-Oct-2007 22:09:18] <eurowerke> nm
[24-Oct-2007 22:12:14] <progma> ?
[24-Oct-2007 22:12:22] <eurowerke> was just testing something
[24-Oct-2007 22:13:24] <MoreDakka_> Can I add a next hope to a gateway that I can only ping and no snmp? (Internal network -> (vlan1) Cisco871 -> (fa4) Cisco 871 -> Telus Gateway
[24-Oct-2007 22:15:34] <progma> eurowerke: hth http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2189
[24-Oct-2007 22:15:43] <adytum-bot> Title: 0002189: CentOS is not getting optimal performance in a virtualized environment and on slow cpus - CentOS Bug Tracker (at bugs.centos.org)
[24-Oct-2007 22:15:43] <progma> otherwise i'd check #debian
[24-Oct-2007 22:16:37] <filc> MoreDakka: I'd be interested in knowing that too!!
[24-Oct-2007 22:16:59] <MoreDakka_> filc: lets hope someone in here knows./
[24-Oct-2007 22:17:20] <progma> eurowerke: there's some reference to debian there but not much
[24-Oct-2007 22:19:15] <MoreDakka_> Cause I've got my gateway 111.111.111.1 and the eth4 on the cisco 871 is 111.111.111.42 so network 111.111.111.0. Zenoss sees that IP 111.111.111.1 is responding but under network it has under device "None" for that IP.
[24-Oct-2007 22:31:03] <PerlStalker> How do I set the snmp trap server's community string?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:24] <eurowerke> well, that would depend on what sort of system you're setting it up on, PerlStalker
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:25] <eurowerke>
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:33] <eurowerke> in windoze?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:35] <eurowerke> loonix?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:40] <eurowerke> in zenoss?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:48] <PerlStalker> No. The the trap community that zenoss accepts.
[24-Oct-2007 22:38:22] <PerlStalker> My routers have been previously configured to use something other than public as the trap community.
[24-Oct-2007 22:38:35] <PerlStalker> I'd rather not log into all of them and change that.
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:13] <eurowerke> afaik, the trap community that zenoss accepts is the same community that you used to add the device in the first place
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:17] <eurowerke> I could very much be wrong
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:24] <eurowerke> but that's how i seem to understand it
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:39] <eurowerke> traps are being sent fine from the devices I have specified to send from
[24-Oct-2007 22:43:57] <PerlStalker> Ok. I'll play with it a bit.
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[24-Oct-2007 23:31:02] <guyverix> Is there anyone here who might have some free time to assist me with some event mapping issues?
[24-Oct-2007 23:37:09] <guyverix> ?
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[25-Oct-2007 00:18:43] <guyverix> ?
[25-Oct-2007 00:21:39] <vipp> any one got any info on how to monitor a remote network with a prob
[25-Oct-2007 00:22:37] <vipp> can any one give any help
[25-Oct-2007 00:22:38] <guyverix> depends, are you looking just to see if the remote net is up?
[25-Oct-2007 00:23:17] <vipp> no i am looking to use a prob to monitor pc in a remote network
[25-Oct-2007 00:23:40] <guyverix> oh, a probe..
[25-Oct-2007 00:23:57] <guyverix> and you want to query with snmp, or something else?
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:07] <vipp> i know it would work if there was an agent that worked with windows
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:17] <vipp> snmp would be fine for the time
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:38] <guyverix> well you can do a pass to an exec with snmp
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:41] <vipp> maby some wmi or vbscript to poll some things that snmp would not poll
[25-Oct-2007 00:25:11] <vipp> how do you mean
[25-Oct-2007 00:25:17] <guyverix> I have been writing scripts to get what snmp does not. I have been using exec statments in the snmpd.conf file for this
[25-Oct-2007 00:25:48] <guyverix> are the boxes Windows, or Linux based?
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:03] <vipp> but how could you do a prob that could report the internal network
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:26] <guyverix> the internal network, or the internal machine on the remote network?
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:37] <vipp> windows mostly i could build small boxes with linux but thats just a lot of money
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:57] <vipp> internal machine on the remote network
[25-Oct-2007 00:27:15] <guyverix> IC.. Well what I have been doing is writing scripts that accept arguments, and then calling them with an snmp get command to get the results I am looking for
[25-Oct-2007 00:27:29] <vipp> around 10 internal pc with a 192.168 from an external ip
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:01] <guyverix> each machine will need the exec <path to exe program> put into the snmpd.conf file
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:15] <vipp> are you forwarding multipal snmp ports to the internal pcs
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:18] <guyverix> the exec command is called with a normal snmpwalk / get
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:22] <guyverix> nope
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:34] <guyverix> everythning will work off of 161
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:53] <progma> hmm i didn't realize xen got bought by citrix
[25-Oct-2007 00:29:10] <guyverix> Hmm, thats news to me...
[25-Oct-2007 00:29:19] <vipp> but how dose ext.:161 give all 10 pc in the network
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:07] <vipp> is there any documintation on calling a exec from snmpwalk
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:15] <guyverix> each machine will be polled by zenoss using the OID that relates to the exec command. Then the exe at the far end fires off, grabs the data and sends it back
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:29] <guyverix> yea, it is on the net-SNMP website, and wiki
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:43] <vipp> cool thats for all you help
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:48] <guyverix> sure!
[25-Oct-2007 00:31:47] <vipp> is there any remote control coming to zenoss that you know of are is there any info on how to create you own
[25-Oct-2007 00:33:26] <guyverix> depends on what you men by remote control...
[25-Oct-2007 00:33:44] <guyverix> are you asking about remote commands that you can send to the far end machines?
[25-Oct-2007 00:34:13] <vipp> some thing like vnc of rdp
[25-Oct-2007 00:34:37] <progma> ssh?
[25-Oct-2007 00:34:59] <guyverix> I think I know what you are asking
[25-Oct-2007 00:35:06] <vipp> ssh is fine for *nix but i was thinking about windows
[25-Oct-2007 00:35:33] <guyverix> you can always set the links command to open up vncviewer to the remote machine
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:03] <guyverix> it is a generic area that you can use to open up almost anything..
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:41] <guyverix> as long as it is a regered protocol, the links area will open up whatever you like when you click on the link
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:43] <vipp> where do i find that i have just realy got started in this and by far zenoss is the best i have seen
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:59] <guyverix> zProperties zLinks
[25-Oct-2007 00:39:15] <vipp> let me see if i can find that thanks for you help
[25-Oct-2007 00:39:32] <guyverix> use a basic HTML code for it like <a href = telnet://${here/ManageIp}'target='_'> telnet ${here/id}</a>
[25-Oct-2007 00:40:23] <vipp> ok cool
[25-Oct-2007 00:40:35] <guyverix> oops, there is a typo in the cmd, put another ' between the = and the telnet
[25-Oct-2007 00:40:50] <guyverix> you can change that to use vncviewer as well
[25-Oct-2007 00:41:06] <guyverix> just dont forget the ports that need to be added to the end
[25-Oct-2007 00:42:13] <vipp> ok is that in zport/manager or is there another place
[25-Oct-2007 00:43:30] <guyverix> zProperties zLinks
[25-Oct-2007 00:43:39] <guyverix> click on devices
[25-Oct-2007 00:43:46] <guyverix> then look at the tabs at the top
[25-Oct-2007 00:46:55] <vipp> is the varibuls ${here/manageIp}'target'='22' right
[25-Oct-2007 00:48:18] <guyverix> no, dont define the target like that
[25-Oct-2007 00:48:29] <guyverix> that is part of the syntax to make it display right on the device
[25-Oct-2007 00:49:29] <guyverix> the var ${here/manageIp} is TALES var that will pull the IP from the zenoss database
[25-Oct-2007 00:50:15] <vipp> i just get a red 'ManageIP'
[25-Oct-2007 00:50:20] <guyverix> the actual command that is run from what I gave you is telnet <ip address> The other stuff is how to make it work with Zenoss
[25-Oct-2007 00:51:08] <guyverix> no, dont substatute anything, just put the code in as I posted it here, and look at one of the devices
[25-Oct-2007 00:51:35] <guyverix> it is just a hyperlink to the telnet command. Zenoss adds the IP addresses
[25-Oct-2007 00:58:15] <vipp> man i must be stuped i did this <a href = 'telnet://${here/ManageIp}'target='_'> telnet ${here/id}</a> and i dont get any thing but a big red manageIP
[25-Oct-2007 01:00:37] <guyverix> make the manageIP with a lower case m
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:13] <guyverix> ack
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:21] <guyverix> just like this manageIp
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:27] <guyverix> sigh... it is getting late
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:44] <vipp> im sorry
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:52] <vipp> thanks for all your help
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:09] <guyverix> the link should say telnet (Device name) as an HTML hyperlink
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:25] <guyverix> its no trouble..
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:43] <guyverix> I am waiting to see if anyone has an answer to my questions in the forums
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:45] <guyverix> hehehe
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:51] <guyverix> I dont get to go home just yet..
[25-Oct-2007 01:03:14] <vipp> what do you need help with
[25-Oct-2007 01:03:45] <guyverix> I am trying to get my alarm mapping to work properly
[25-Oct-2007 01:04:10] <guyverix> I have 12000 devices that are very chatty, all with the same OID's
[25-Oct-2007 01:04:42] <guyverix> the messages are what is different in the traps, but I cannot get regex to parse out my traps to different mappings
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:16] <vipp> man that sounds like some magor work
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:35] <guyverix> 20k of traps in 20 minutes sucks no matter what kind of hardware you throw at it
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:36] <guyverix> hehe
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:49] <guyverix> yea..
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:54] <vipp> ya thats right
[25-Oct-2007 01:06:10] <guyverix> the company is finally getting out of startup mode, and getting serious about fault managment
[25-Oct-2007 01:09:38] <vipp> ya im moveing to a comp just to set up a msp still model
[25-Oct-2007 01:09:50] <vipp> oh thanks i got it working
[25-Oct-2007 01:09:59] <guyverix> good, glad to hear it
[25-Oct-2007 01:10:43] <guyverix> if you register the other protocols with your browser, it will open up the programs you need IE ssh, telnet, http, vnc, etc
[25-Oct-2007 01:11:02] <vipp> i wont to get a good remote agent for windows working so that we can do remote managment like with kaseya or n-able
[25-Oct-2007 01:11:43] <vipp> can i just add to the links fild multiy ports
[25-Oct-2007 01:12:17] <guyverix> sure, it is just an html link, you can add several..
[25-Oct-2007 01:12:46] <guyverix> I have one for web servers with different directorys, and even a few with odd ports... all in the links
[25-Oct-2007 01:13:19] <guyverix> just use theORT format that you normally would when coding html
[25-Oct-2007 01:13:45] <guyverix> just a sec, I will grab my link statement for port 8080 so you will have a devent example
[25-Oct-2007 01:13:57] <guyverix> umm, decent, not devent
[25-Oct-2007 01:14:57] <vipp> cool thanks
[25-Oct-2007 01:16:30] <guyverix> <a href = 'http://${here/ManageIp}:8080/working/directory' target='_'> Webpage ${here/id}</a>
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:09] <vipp> thanks
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:12] <guyverix> dont forget that if you want a generic link, just take out the ${here/id} and it will just be a hyperlink that says Webpage
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:14] <guyverix> no problem
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:39] <vipp> what is the zjmx zenpak
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:59] <guyverix> dont know.. .I dont use any zenpacks..
[25-Oct-2007 01:18:07] <guyverix> I prefer to use nagios if I can
[25-Oct-2007 01:18:20] <guyverix> nagios plugins do work in zenoss
[25-Oct-2007 01:19:03] <guyverix> there are just some pitfalls that you have to keep an eye on with them, since not all of the plugins follow nagios standards..
[25-Oct-2007 01:19:37] <vipp> ok that will be good
[25-Oct-2007 01:20:17] <guyverix> same deal with cacti plugins, there is some parsing done, so they can be used as well
[25-Oct-2007 01:35:15] <guyverix> well have a good night, vipp and good luck!
[25-Oct-2007 04:22:30] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - rst2a - 17 Oct, 03:03PM
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[25-Oct-2007 04:58:52] <darkhorse> is is possible to get the wmi collector working without a domain (ie using a local admin user and pass?)
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> 1: how do I make a report (containing <tal> layout tags) into a plugin? (ReportLoader.py yields an error "Traceback (most recent call last):
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> File "ZenReports/Reportloader.py", line 7, in ?
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> import transaction
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> Import Error: No module named transaction ")
[25-Oct-2007 13:58:10] <Robbadub> 1: how do I make a report (containing <tal> layout tags) into a plugin? (ReportLoader.py yields an error "Traceback (most recent call last): File "ZenReports/Reportloader.py", line 7, in ? import transaction Import Error: No module named transaction ")
[25-Oct-2007 13:58:33] <Robbadub> 2: how do I copy or add a report to the Zope interface (without import/export function)
[25-Oct-2007 13:59:07] <Robbadub> 3: how do I add a report to the Zope interface using the import/export function?
[25-Oct-2007 14:03:09] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[25-Oct-2007 14:03:42] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone describe System and Group...what you might set them as? Location is pretty much self explained.
[25-Oct-2007 14:14:10] <filc> I've used system for "Networking", "File & Print", "Terminal Servers", "ERP"..... dunno what to use group for.... anyone else?
[25-Oct-2007 14:14:42] <filc> MoreDakka: Did you get a response to you question yesterday?
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:19] <MoreDakka_> This one? "Can I add a next hope to a gateway that I can only ping and no snmp? (Internal network -> (vlan1) Cisco871 -> (fa4) Cisco 871 -> Telus Gateway"
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:32] <filc> yup.
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:42] <MoreDakka_> Naw, didn't get anything outta that.
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:49] <MoreDakka_> I'm not sure if I figured it out myself though.
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:50] <filc>
[25-Oct-2007 14:18:18] <MoreDakka_> On the gateway I added an Interface that is up but not monitored and I gave it the gateway's IP. Then on the same device I created a Route Destination=Internal Network, NextHop=Gateway's IP (the IP of the interface you created), Interface=the one you created, Protocol=local, Type=indirect
[25-Oct-2007 14:18:42] <Robbadub> Filc: System and Group are really optional to your own liking
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:12] <Robbadub> System could be containers like Webservers, terminlservers Sql servers etc
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:14] <MoreDakka_> then on the cisco 871 the default route (0.0.0.0/0) I made sure points to the interface you created on the gateway device.
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:40] <MoreDakka_> It seems to fool Zenoss into thinking there is a route there but if something goes down it would be interesting to see if it reports it properly.
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:41] <Robbadub> Groups are even more abstract. If you would for instance group the by administrator on your team or something like that
[25-Oct-2007 14:20:17] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I was thinking that Group was an extra sorting that is optional...same with systems
[25-Oct-2007 14:24:32] <Robbadub> Als o it appears that after upgrading it takes a while for Zenoss to re-model everything and display it properly. I even had to restart the entire system
[25-Oct-2007 14:24:49] <Robbadub> I do have a buggy nag in the devicelist
[25-Oct-2007 14:27:15] <Robbadub> Zenoss cannot open the site http://zenos.mydomain.local:8080/pathtodevice Operatioon Aborted
[25-Oct-2007 14:27:28] <Robbadub> Drives me up the wall
[25-Oct-2007 14:30:16] <MoreDakka_> :-/ sorry can't help you with that one....I'm getting drivin' up the wall by the fact that I can't import the data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1. I might be entering a lot of stuff by hand....150+ devices
[25-Oct-2007 14:43:03] <Robbadub> MoreDakk: can't you discover them?
[25-Oct-2007 14:50:39] <MoreDakka_> All the sites that we monitor are remote and not easliy discovered all at once.
[25-Oct-2007 14:51:02] <MoreDakka_> It would probably take me more time to setup the networks for each set then just add them by hand.
[25-Oct-2007 14:57:46] <Robbadub> Then again if you would develop a procedure your would not have to do much work when expanding
[25-Oct-2007 14:57:59] <Robbadub> Use a tool like Look@lan to make import lists
[25-Oct-2007 14:58:09] <Robbadub> You can import devices via xml
[25-Oct-2007 14:59:05] <frawd> anyone here knows if it's possible to use a nagios plugins but have a status output like in nagios? With an output line and an icon? I can only configure nagios plugins to display graphics on the perfomance tab, but cannot put them to display on the OS Tab.
[25-Oct-2007 15:23:49] <MoreDakka_> How can I get Zenoss to show that there is a layer 2 switch in between devices? (Computer<-> Cisco 2950 <-> Cisco 871 <-> Internet)?
[25-Oct-2007 16:20:59] <eurowerke> anyone found a solution for unknown speeds on propVirtual interfaces?
[25-Oct-2007 16:23:36] <phurba> hi, I've inherited what looks to be a semi-complete zenoss setup. Alerts are working (though there are a lot of false positives) but the Perf tab for every machine displays no graphs (just broken images). When i run zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d taz1.domainit.com it does not update the perfs and I get INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:Unresponsive devices: [[ <all of the machines it monitors>]], INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 0 of 0 devices in 0.00
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:10] <eurowerke> phurba: check the communities is the first thing I would check
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:29] <phurba> eurowerke: how?
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:44] <eurowerke> on the devices themselves
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:50] <eurowerke> I don't know how on those devices
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:54] <eurowerke> unless it's been changed
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:57] <eurowerke> it should be 'public'
[25-Oct-2007 16:25:00] <eurowerke> or 'private'
[25-Oct-2007 16:25:14] <eurowerke> does the -d taz1.domainit.com mean that the devices are outside of your LAN?
[25-Oct-2007 16:26:06] <eurowerke> zenoss uses public and private as communities to check by default
[25-Oct-2007 16:26:21] <eurowerke> defined under zProperties in the various templates under zSnmpCommunities
[25-Oct-2007 16:26:44] <phurba> no, it's on the lan. but that might be an interesting point -- there is an internal network which is what zenoss *should* be going through
[25-Oct-2007 16:27:19] <phurba> zSnmpCommunity for that device is public
[25-Oct-2007 16:27:44] <eurowerke> ping that host from a LAN wkstation command line
[25-Oct-2007 16:27:52] <eurowerke> see if it resolves to an internal or external ip addr
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:01] <phurba> its resolving to external
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:05] <eurowerke> ahh
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:13] <eurowerke> so I guess it could be going outside then
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:21] <eurowerke> I don't know much about security
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:33] <phurba> however the "Manage IP" is the correct lan ip for that device
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:41] <eurowerke> was that autodetected?
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:58] <phurba> i don't know
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:02] <eurowerke> are there 2 nics in the system, one for external network and one internal?
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:06] <phurba> yes
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:18] <phurba> plus an additional one on crossover to its failover device
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:26] <eurowerke> ok
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:29] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:42] <eurowerke> would it kill you to delete the device and re-add it?
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:53] <phurba> i'd reall prefer not to
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:57] <eurowerke> ok
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:58] <phurba> although i can re-add it with a different name
[25-Oct-2007 16:30:45] <eurowerke> try to remodel the device
[25-Oct-2007 16:30:50] <eurowerke> go into the device main tab
[25-Oct-2007 16:31:36] <phurba> how do i remodel it?
[25-Oct-2007 16:32:03] <eurowerke> go into the device's page
[25-Oct-2007 16:32:53] <phurba> and then? (I'm not sure what you mean by remodel)
[25-Oct-2007 16:32:57] <eurowerke> e.g. when I click on one of my switches it goes to /Devices/Network/Switch/WEST_1
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:07] <eurowerke> what version are you using?
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:09] <eurowerke> actually
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:10] <eurowerke> 2.1?
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:41] <phurba> actually i'm not sure
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:44] <eurowerke> heheh
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:57] <eurowerke> do you have a "Network Map" link on the left side?
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:13] <phurba> no
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:22] <eurowerke> ok prob 2.0.x I guess then
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:24] <eurowerke> okay
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:31] <eurowerke> well on the upper left corner of the main tab
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:41] <phurba> actually it may be 1.9.7
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:42] <eurowerke> the little down triangle thing
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:48] <eurowerke> ahhh ok
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:49] <phurba> that seems to be the most recent source directory i can find
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:59] <eurowerke> ahh
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:59] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:11] <eurowerke> i forget how to do it on that one
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:12] <eurowerke> dang
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:13] <eurowerke> hehe
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:37] <eurowerke> seems like most people around here are at least using 2.0.x
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:44] <phurba> hrm.. "Lost Connection to Zenoss"
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:48] <phurba> yet the processes are still running
[25-Oct-2007 16:36:31] <phurba> it's back
[25-Oct-2007 16:37:38] <phurba> woah damn, it's 1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:37:50] <eurowerke> YIKES
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:03] <eurowerke> you may want to upgrade before you start fiddling with other probs
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:09] <phurba> yeah i expect
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:19] <eurowerke> there's been a lot of changes since then
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:32] <phurba> any idea in regards to a smooth upgrade path?
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:36] <eurowerke> haha
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:37] <eurowerke> ^_^
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:38] <eurowerke> sorry
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:39] <MoreDakka_> Can the Availability be reset?
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:51] <eurowerke> ahh some help!
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:03] <MoreDakka_> phurba....yay I'm not the only one on v1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:10] <MoreDakka_> I'm not alone.
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:10] <eurowerke> you are too Dakk?
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:12] <eurowerke> dang lol
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:18] <MoreDakka_> Yeah our production server is.
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:21] <eurowerke> ahh
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:29] <MoreDakka_> I've got a new production server that I'm trying to get to 2.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:34] <eurowerke> well I'll let you two mingle then
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:34] <MoreDakka_> 2.1 is much nicer.
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:34] <phurba> moredakka_: haha, so do you know how to fix the issue with perfs i'm having?
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:38] <eurowerke> heck yea
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:43] <phurba> i'm sure it is
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:44] <phurba> sad thing
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:45] <eurowerke> I personally so far prefer 2.0.6
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:48] <eurowerke> but 2.1 is nice
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:56] <phurba> zenoss was installed around july of this year
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:58] <MoreDakka_> the maps is a nice issue.
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:02] <phurba> by a guy who no longer works here
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:02] <eurowerke> yep
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:06] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:10] <MoreDakka_> that's always fun
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:15] <MoreDakka_> how many devices?
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:44] <phurba> 17 configured, probably around 5 which should be added
[25-Oct-2007 16:41:55] <phurba> going to go ahead and show my inexperience with zenoss here, but what does it require the monitored machines to be running? just snmp, or is this something special that they run?
[25-Oct-2007 16:41:58] <MoreDakka_> bah, 17 isn't that much. Heh it would almost be worth it to just do an "upgrade" which may or may not work from 1.1.1 and then add those devices manually (or let zenoss discover them) rather then troubleshooting v1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:07] <frawd> anyone here knows if it's possible to use a nagios plugin but displaying the results in the OS tab, near the filesystems, etc..? I can only figure out how-to configure nagios plugins to display graphics on the perfomance tab...
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:20] <MoreDakka_> Zenoss can monitor with just ping or ping/snmp
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:28] <MoreDakka_> or wmi I think.
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:29] <MoreDakka_> never used it though.
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:42] <phurba> i think it's doing more than that right now though
[25-Oct-2007 16:44:45] <MoreDakka_> So do you want to try to TS v1.1.1? I don't know if I can totally help you but I can try. However, it might be better just to upgrade and clean out a lot of bugs that way.
[25-Oct-2007 16:45:55] <phurba> yeah actually i would prefer to get this going. the move to 2.1 won't happen any time soon for a couple of rather annoying reasons
[25-Oct-2007 16:46:31] <MoreDakka_> Ha. Don't get stuck where I am....150 devices and the import from 1.1.1 -> 2.1 isn't working.
[25-Oct-2007 16:47:23] <phurba> i'll try to keep that from happening
[25-Oct-2007 16:49:10] <MoreDakka_> Were you able to check the communities?
[25-Oct-2007 16:49:23] <phurba> they are public
[25-Oct-2007 16:49:24] <MoreDakka_> Cause having broken images is weird.
[25-Oct-2007 16:50:20] <eurowerke> hey dakka quick q: do you know if when creating graph points, they have to be the same name as the data source?
[25-Oct-2007 16:50:49] <eurowerke> I renamed one of my data sources then recreated the graph point for my graph using the right data source, and for some reason it b0rked it
[25-Oct-2007 16:50:52] <eurowerke> couldn't graph anymore
[25-Oct-2007 16:51:47] <MoreDakka_> It has to be the name of the DataPoint I think.
[25-Oct-2007 16:51:53] <eurowerke> okay cool
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:00] <MoreDakka_> It's either no images (so the OID is probably incorrect) or zenoss hasn't polled enough from that box to get a graph created.
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:05] <phurba> the community is listed as public in the zProperties tab, and clicking "Collect Configuration" on the manage tab seems to do so successfully
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:13] <eurowerke> it had been graphing previous to the change
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:23] <eurowerke> then I decided I didn't like the name of the data source
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:24] <MoreDakka_> sorry, that comment was for phurba's issue.
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:27] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:28] <eurowerke> oh
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:29] <eurowerke> hahah
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:41] <MoreDakka_> You should change the name of the DS to b0rked.
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:41] <eurowerke> funny because zenoss was saying my OID was wrong lol
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:43] <MoreDakka_> heheh
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:45] <eurowerke> heheh
[25-Oct-2007 16:53:40] <MoreDakka_> gah, 2.1 is much more differnent for the graphs then 1.1.1....so I might be telling you crap.
[25-Oct-2007 16:53:47] <eurowerke> perhaps
[25-Oct-2007 16:53:54] <eurowerke> but it does seem to work with the same name DS and GP
[25-Oct-2007 16:54:04] <eurowerke> so... perhaps not much has changed in the graphing component itself
[25-Oct-2007 16:54:05] <eurowerke>
[25-Oct-2007 16:54:37] <MoreDakka_> Do you know if the Availability % can be reset?
[25-Oct-2007 16:55:55] <phurba> moredakka: the graphs seem to be configured properly on the PerfConf tab, and the Collect Configuration overn snmp works, but manually running zenperfsnmpd run reports that all of the devices it should be collecting stats from are unresponsive. is there something weird or special necessary in the snmpd config on the target device?
[25-Oct-2007 16:56:02] <tristanbob> progma: are you going to look into an Ubuntu package for Zenoss?
[25-Oct-2007 16:56:44] <eurowerke> phurba: do you have a box you can try to snmpwalk the devices to be sure they're responsive?
[25-Oct-2007 16:56:53] <eurowerke> then you can isolate to zenoss issue or device issue
[25-Oct-2007 16:57:35] <MoreDakka_> What happens when you run snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic taz1.domainit.com from the command prompt?
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:18] <phurba> eurowerke: yes i can do that
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:20] <phurba> one moment
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:50] <phurba> timeout no response
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:51] <phurba> interesting
[25-Oct-2007 16:59:23] <MoreDakka_> Uh oh.
[25-Oct-2007 16:59:52] <phurba> strangely, the snmpd is running on that machine
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:03] <phurba> ah
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:08] <phurba> if i point it at the lan ip address it works
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:27] <phurba> so it appears that zenoss is trying to contact it over the internet ip, not the local one
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:35] <phurba> yet the lan ip is listed as the Management IP
[25-Oct-2007 17:02:30] <MoreDakka_> If you ping taz1.domainit.com do you get the lan IP or the wan IP?
[25-Oct-2007 17:02:35] <phurba> wan
[25-Oct-2007 17:02:40] <MoreDakka_> (from the zenoss box)
[25-Oct-2007 17:03:13] <MoreDakka_> So the DNS server has the WAN IP for that box so that's what Zenoss is looking for...well that's what every machine that is looking for that will be looking for.
[25-Oct-2007 17:03:35] <phurba> but why? shouldn't it be using the value it has for management ip?
[25-Oct-2007 17:04:32] <MoreDakka_> That's a good question. It should be using that...hold on let me check something.
[25-Oct-2007 17:07:04] <MoreDakka_> Yeah it should use the management IP that is set. I have a box that has a valid dns name (host.domain.com), if I change the management IP on that box to something else then use the ping function it pings the new management IP not the DNS IP.
[25-Oct-2007 17:07:46] <phurba> yeah when i run ping on it (from zenoss) it uses the lan ip
[25-Oct-2007 17:09:26] <MoreDakka_> Yup. Looks like it uses the FQDN when running the "collect configuration" rather then the management IP.
[25-Oct-2007 17:10:00] <MoreDakka_> Try changing the name of the machine to taz1-domainit-com and the management IP to what it should be then try again.
[25-Oct-2007 17:12:55] <phurba> no, it does you the management ip for 'collect configuration'
[25-Oct-2007 17:13:29] <MoreDakka_> it uses the management IP for collection?
[25-Oct-2007 17:13:42] <phurba> when i hit the collect configuration button, yes
[25-Oct-2007 17:13:53] <phurba> but not when i manually run zenossperfsnmp
[25-Oct-2007 17:14:10] <MoreDakka_> Well when you manually run it you use the FQDN right?
[25-Oct-2007 17:14:32] <MoreDakka_> The command you used was "zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d taz1.domainit.com" right?
[25-Oct-2007 17:15:08] <phurba> right
[25-Oct-2007 17:15:25] <MoreDakka_> So the FQDN points to the WAN IP...so that won't work.
[25-Oct-2007 17:15:34] <MoreDakka_> try zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d <LAN IP>
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:25] <phurba> i tried that and it didn't work
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:27] <phurba> but
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:36] <phurba> i just redid it with the changed machine name
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:40] <phurba> and now there are graphs!
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:46] <MoreDakka_> fun
[25-Oct-2007 17:17:03] <MoreDakka_> <whispering>upgradetov2.1</wispering>
[25-Oct-2007 17:17:18] <phurba> so i should change all the machine names from the fqdn to just the hostname and it should work
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[25-Oct-2007 17:40:26] <eurowerke> phurba: so you just readded the device using just the hostnames?
[25-Oct-2007 17:40:34] <eurowerke> instead of FQDN?
[25-Oct-2007 17:40:45] <MoreDakka_> Probably just renamed them
[25-Oct-2007 17:40:48] <eurowerke> ah
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:05] <eurowerke> heh I was thinking it was exactly this problem
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:10] <MoreDakka_> So I'm assuming you don't know if the Availability % can be reset somewhere?
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:11] <eurowerke> DNS lookup giving WAN ip
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:16] <eurowerke> me?
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:19] <MoreDakka_> yeah
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:22] <eurowerke> availability of what?
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:26] <MoreDakka_> heh no, the other people chatting here.
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:31] <eurowerke> haha
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:38] <eurowerke> I had thought you were talking to phurb before
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:45] <eurowerke> sorry -__
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:47] <eurowerke> -_-
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:56] <MoreDakka_> haha...no worries ;-)
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:09] <eurowerke> I don't know where that could be reset
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:10] <MoreDakka_> Availability
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:10] <MoreDakka_> 100.000%
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:16] <MoreDakka_> bah...stupid paste.
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:34] <eurowerke> well, if you reset it, it should default to 100%, right?
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:50] <MoreDakka_> right....sorry that device was a bad example.
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:20] <eurowerke> you trying to get it to say all your devices are 100% available?
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:35] <eurowerke> only way I can think to reset it would be to readd the device...
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:53] <MoreDakka_> Or if a devies gets taken out then you need to reset it (cause zenoss is a little slow sometimes when you tell it to ignore pings/snmp)
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:53] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:07] <eurowerke> that's what I was thinking
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:36] <eurowerke> for some reason it seems like when a device goes down, when it comes back the availability has reset
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:42] <eurowerke> one of the daemons must reset it someway
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:56] <eurowerke> have you tried clearing heartbeats?
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:13] <MoreDakka_> Yeah that does nothing.
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:22] <MoreDakka_> except clear heartbeats.
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:26] <eurowerke> lol
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:27] <MoreDakka_> fancy that...
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:28] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:32] <eurowerke> whaddya know!
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:33] <eurowerke> haha
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:37] <phurba> eurowerke: well, that kinda fixed it. when i renamed the device, it now shows graphs, but they are void of data
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:51] <eurowerke> oh so before you only had the left/right arrow things?
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:06] <eurowerke> now the graph is there but no data
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:09] <eurowerke> ?
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:15] <phurba> no, before i had broken images. now i have the graph with no data
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:18] <eurowerke> dang Dakka, there's gotta be some way to do it
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:26] <MoreDakka_> hmmm.
[25-Oct-2007 17:47:24] <MoreDakka_> What's the OS on the box you are trying to get info from?
[25-Oct-2007 17:47:31] <phurba> freebsd
[25-Oct-2007 17:48:32] <MoreDakka_> Do you have the device under the /Devices/server/linux class?
[25-Oct-2007 17:49:10] <phurba> no, /Server/FreeBSD
[25-Oct-2007 17:49:24] <MoreDakka_> ok, so I'm assuming the quitter created that.
[25-Oct-2007 17:49:37] <phurba> must have
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:06] <phurba> are you suggesting i change it to /Server/Linux ?
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:14] <MoreDakka_> It's worth a shot.
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:24] <phurba> any possible rammifications?
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:41] <MoreDakka_> See if he has the OIDs all messed up. the /server/linux are pretty generic oids
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:42] <MoreDakka_> Nope.
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:48] <MoreDakka_> You can always move it right back.
[25-Oct-2007 17:51:26] <phurba> k
[25-Oct-2007 17:53:15] <phurba> change it and re-ran zenperfsnmpd manually. no change.
[25-Oct-2007 17:53:27] <MoreDakka_> You'll have to let it poll
[25-Oct-2007 17:53:31] <MoreDakka_> wait 10 minutes.
[25-Oct-2007 17:55:09] <phurba> k
[25-Oct-2007 17:55:18] <phurba> i thought zenperfsnmpd would poll it
[25-Oct-2007 18:02:59] <MoreDakka_> It collect the config but for the graphs to be created needs to be polled by the zenoss process (I guess)
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[25-Oct-2007 18:09:06] <hkc> Anyone know how to do snmpv3 with Zenoss 2.1? I see where it's supposed to be supported but there is only a community string in the screen... no options for "username & password"
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[25-Oct-2007 18:56:56] <jsm> ok.. i have two rhel5 boxes.. i want to move my zenoss box to the new server.. what files do i need to move?
[25-Oct-2007 18:57:19] <jsm> i installed zenoss with the rpm, btw
[25-Oct-2007 19:01:02] <jsm> nevermind, found it : http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1/ch22s01.html
[25-Oct-2007 19:01:16] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[25-Oct-2007 19:22:53] <jsm> hmmm.. that whole backup and restore didn't go to well.. i don't see any devices
[25-Oct-2007 19:24:36] <jsm> I see the perf data was restored, but there's no devices list nor any event data
[25-Oct-2007 19:42:51] <MoreDakka_> I kinda wish a dev would take another look at my topic: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3712 I'm sure I'm not the only one to try to import from v1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 19:43:08] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - migrating data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1...doesn't like me. (at community.zenoss.com)
[25-Oct-2007 19:44:03] <jsm> MoreDakka_: i can't even migrate from one box to another running the same version
[25-Oct-2007 19:45:03] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Oct-2007 19:45:09] <MoreDakka_> Well I'm screwed then
[25-Oct-2007 19:46:03] <filc> Glad I chose to run in a CentOS VM then!!
[25-Oct-2007 19:46:21] <MoreDakka_> Yeah just backup the image.
[25-Oct-2007 19:46:30] <erx_h> does someone know irc bot for zenoss, similar to nagircbot ?
[25-Oct-2007 20:43:39] <MoreDakka_> Who here is running 2.1?
[25-Oct-2007 20:44:15] <monrad> me
[25-Oct-2007 20:44:35] <MoreDakka_> Do you have a lot of different locations?
[25-Oct-2007 20:46:37] <MoreDakka_> I'm just trying to figure out how I want to do this setup...
[25-Oct-2007 20:47:14] <MoreDakka_> Cause we have about 10 different companies and about 15 sites for each company and multiple radios at each site....
[25-Oct-2007 20:49:24] <monrad> well not yet
[25-Oct-2007 20:49:43] <monrad> i think we have our ~20 core locations in now
[25-Oct-2007 20:49:58] <monrad> but we are thinking about putting all our ~300 sites in
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:11] <MoreDakka_> so how would you do your locations?
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:21] <MoreDakka_> Would you want to see all 300 locations on the dashboard map?
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:31] <monrad> i am not sure about that yet
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:38] <MoreDakka_> That's where I'm stuck...
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:48] <monrad> because then i dont think i can se the core clearly
[25-Oct-2007 20:51:29] <MoreDakka_> The locations that we monitor are hundreds of kilometers away from us and eachother so I don't think they'll impact eachother...
[25-Oct-2007 20:52:07] <MoreDakka_> I would really really like it if zenoss could make a link between two devices without snmp.
[25-Oct-2007 20:52:25] <MoreDakka_> ie: Internet -> Radio -> Radio -> End client
[25-Oct-2007 20:52:50] <MoreDakka_> the radio -> radio would be sweet to see on the map (heh we have a wireless shot that is 118km long :-D
[25-Oct-2007 21:37:46] <PerlStalker> Can someone tell my why the default through graphs are labeled Bits/sec when they are displaying Bytes/sec?
[25-Oct-2007 21:38:06] <MoreDakka_> Anyone know why all of a sudden my google map in zenoss is showing a repeated world?
[25-Oct-2007 21:38:33] <MoreDakka_> The addresses are correct on the locations that should be showing
[25-Oct-2007 21:39:03] <MoreDakka_> I was adding some sub locations to drill down further and when I was testing it I couldn't anything other than a repeated world.
[25-Oct-2007 21:49:16] <MoreDakka_> Great....does anyone else have 2.1 and is their map working?
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[26-Oct-2007 10:25:07] <Saurav> hi all..
[26-Oct-2007 10:25:15] <Saurav> any one here
[26-Oct-2007 10:25:52] <Saurav> hi there
[26-Oct-2007 10:26:17] <frawd> hello
[26-Oct-2007 10:26:50] <Saurav> seems everyone is out.
[26-Oct-2007 10:27:01] <Saurav> i am from london.. where are you from??
[26-Oct-2007 10:27:23] <Saurav> i have a couple of questions on zenoss.. ..
[26-Oct-2007 10:27:33] <Saurav> are you a zenoss engineer..
[26-Oct-2007 12:24:51] <passie> is there somebody who could help me with performance graphs for gig nics ?
[26-Oct-2007 12:26:09] <passie> the graphs of my machine says there is 7 mbit troughput , but i know there is 70 mbit data at the moment
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[26-Oct-2007 14:42:57] <MoreDakka_> Anyone know why all of a sudden my google map in zenoss is showing a repeated world?
[26-Oct-2007 14:42:59] <MoreDakka_> I was adding some sub locations to drill down further and when I was testing it I couldn't anything other than a repeated world.
[26-Oct-2007 14:55:17] <passie> probaly geocache problem
[26-Oct-2007 14:56:24] <MoreDakka_> How do I fix it?
[26-Oct-2007 14:56:42] <passie> you can delete the cache so google api gets new maps
[26-Oct-2007 14:56:49] <passie> 1 sec i'll find the url
[26-Oct-2007 14:57:28] <passie> http://$ip/zport/dmd/Locations/$yoursite/javascript/manage
[26-Oct-2007 14:57:36] <passie> change ip and yoursite
[26-Oct-2007 14:57:57] <passie> then click dmd in the breadcrumbs
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:03] <passie> click properties en scroll down
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:14] <passie> there you will find geocache
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:23] <passie> you can delete everything there and press save
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:28] <passie> then it will work again
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:36] <MoreDakka_> I have a javascript error in IE6 " 'geocodecache' is undefined "
[26-Oct-2007 14:59:01] <passie> jup, there is still a bug somewhere but it will work for nwo
[26-Oct-2007 14:59:02] <passie> now
[26-Oct-2007 14:59:20] <passie> you found it ?
[26-Oct-2007 15:00:30] <passie> http://ip:8080/zport/dmd/manage_propertiesForm
[26-Oct-2007 15:00:32] <passie> faster url
[26-Oct-2007 15:00:53] <passie> scroll down and you will see geocache
[26-Oct-2007 15:02:08] <passie> any luck ?.
[26-Oct-2007 15:03:14] <MoreDakka_> Do I just delete eeverything in the geocache string?
[26-Oct-2007 15:03:19] <passie> yes
[26-Oct-2007 15:03:49] <passie> it will fill up when you reload the first page (dashboard)
[26-Oct-2007 15:06:13] <passie> it's weekend for me so good luck, ciao
[26-Oct-2007 15:07:51] <MoreDakka_> yay fixed the problem. thanks
[26-Oct-2007 15:43:29] <captiancrash> What url should be used when registering for a google maps api key when the zenoss is behind a NAT router? (or is this where enterprise API keys some into play?)
[26-Oct-2007 15:44:49] <MoreDakka_> Mines behind a NAT firewall but I have a DNS name for it, I just did monitor.domain.com:8080
[26-Oct-2007 15:45:06] <MoreDakka_> So I suppose you could use $IP:8080
[26-Oct-2007 15:54:17] <captiancrash> didn't work. still saying it's from the wrong url.
[26-Oct-2007 15:54:41] <captiancrash> now, i don't know an forward rules or such for the zenoss box, so in theory, you can't access it from the outside. could that be a problem?
[26-Oct-2007 15:55:06] <MoreDakka_> Mine isn't accessable from the outside. Do you have a FQDN for it or just an IP?
[26-Oct-2007 15:55:25] <MoreDakka_> did you put the :8080?
[26-Oct-2007 15:55:31] <MoreDakka_> or whatever you set the port to?
[26-Oct-2007 15:56:12] <captiancrash> just an IP, i could setup an A record for it.
[26-Oct-2007 15:56:29] <captiancrash> yea, http:IP.ADD.RES.SS:8080
[26-Oct-2007 15:56:33] <captiancrash> http//*
[26-Oct-2007 15:57:05] <MoreDakka_> might want to try an A record. NAT doesn't have anything to do with this.
[26-Oct-2007 16:00:34] <captiancrash> past saving, is there any other tricks i need to do for changes to take affect once updating the API key in settings?
[26-Oct-2007 16:01:19] <MoreDakka_> just put in the locaitons
[26-Oct-2007 16:01:41] <MoreDakka_> The dashboard map only reads locations in the root or /Locations.
[26-Oct-2007 16:01:51] <MoreDakka_> It doesn't drill through any sub locations.
[26-Oct-2007 16:03:30] <captiancrash> eh, i'm still getting the "The Google Maps API key used was registered for a different website.... " message.
[26-Oct-2007 16:08:32] <MoreDakka_> I don't know if this is the case but wonder if the hostname on the box has to match the FQDN for the api to work...?
[26-Oct-2007 16:09:08] <captiancrash> the title of the error does include the local IP of the box, so maybe that's it.
[26-Oct-2007 16:09:18] <captiancrash> it would make sense.
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[26-Oct-2007 17:41:58] <mf2ng> hi all
[26-Oct-2007 17:43:07] <mf2ng> can't get HP-LASERJET-COMMON-MIB to work, it loads fine with zenmib run but there's no OID mappings at all... anyone know the reason of this?
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[26-Oct-2007 20:37:33] <exothermc> Is there someway to setup dependancies, so I don't get notifications of all hosts if a core router fails?
[26-Oct-2007 20:37:43] <exothermc> err all host behind the router.
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[27-Oct-2007 03:10:57] <jds2001> anyone know how the software tab is populated on a device? For RH hosts, I'd like it to show me all of the RPM's that are installed. Seems that it *can* be grabbed via SNMP in the HOST-RESOURCES-MIB
[27-Oct-2007 03:12:15] <jds2001> on my current host (i just have one for testing right now), it is blank :-(
[27-Oct-2007 03:50:14] <jds2001> i just realized that the HOST-RESOURCES-MIB was not in zenoss. I imported (copied to /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site) and then ran zenmib run *, which was successful and I can now see the MIB
[27-Oct-2007 03:50:35] <jds2001> in the WebUI, however I re-modeled the device and no software still.
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[27-Oct-2007 07:02:47] <darkhorse> yea, i was wondering the same thing
[27-Oct-2007 07:02:55] <darkhorse> err
[27-Oct-2007 07:02:59] <darkhorse> about the dependencies
[27-Oct-2007 07:03:14] <jds2001> that i think you can do
[27-Oct-2007 07:03:29] <jds2001> there's a option for 'dependent devices'
[27-Oct-2007 07:04:00] <jds2001> im not sure how to specify them or if it's somehow auto-discovered. I'm still a n00b :-)
[27-Oct-2007 07:50:02] <darkhorse> right
[27-Oct-2007 07:50:12] <darkhorse> but nothing seems to ever get discovered there
[27-Oct-2007 07:50:24] <darkhorse> so i wasnt sure if you had to do some manual thing to get it to work
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[27-Oct-2007 23:51:00] <otakup0pe> ohhi. so is it possible to change the zEventAction on the uknown event class ?
[27-Oct-2007 23:51:12] <otakup0pe> also, zenoss = hot but i'm sure you all know that
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[28-Oct-2007 00:50:05] <otakup0pe> so the internet tells me that using a transform with event mappings doesn't work as of 2.0.4. which implies it should with 2.1 ?
[28-Oct-2007 01:46:29] <otakup0pe> ok i have it working now. but it seems to also overwrite evt.message as well :s
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[28-Oct-2007 15:14:38] <jds2001> two questions - how do i override a threshold value for a given mount point, and how do I define that 90% is a warning, 95% is an error, and 98% is critical? I've gotten the latter, except that I get multiple events. I want to only get *one* event (be it warning, error, or critical) for the given filesystem.
[28-Oct-2007 17:05:38] <stefaans> ello all
[28-Oct-2007 17:38:45] <filc> ello
[28-Oct-2007 17:48:20] <stefaans> nice to meet you :-)
[28-Oct-2007 17:50:35] <stefaans> ello fishstickz
[28-Oct-2007 17:52:13] <fishstickz> Hi
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:15] <stefaans> you a regular here?
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:28] <filc> just learning zenoss
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:37] <fishstickz> I'm an IT guy with zenoss
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:49] <stefaans> coool
[28-Oct-2007 17:54:21] <stefaans> then you like to know I think zenoss is the best thing since sliced bread :-D
[28-Oct-2007 17:54:49] <stefaans> I am still learning tho
[28-Oct-2007 17:54:50] <filc> do you use Zenoss stefaans?
[28-Oct-2007 17:55:02] <fishstickz> Well, we already knew that, but thanks
[28-Oct-2007 17:55:20] <stefaans> I am busy with R&D and just decided this is what I want to use
[28-Oct-2007 17:55:55] <stefaans> I tried a couple of other ones but this beats them all hands down
[28-Oct-2007 17:56:39] <stefaans> other interesting one was zabbix, but too hard to get all your devices on
[28-Oct-2007 17:56:54] <stefaans> currantly busy with setup
[28-Oct-2007 17:57:39] <stefaans> and you?
[28-Oct-2007 18:03:13] <stefaans> was hoping to find someone here to help me with something but my words are echoing around in the silence
[28-Oct-2007 18:08:34] <filc> echo.....
[28-Oct-2007 18:12:09] <stefaans> hehehehe
[28-Oct-2007 18:16:19] <jds2001> hehe i have like five questions outstanding.
[28-Oct-2007 18:19:32] <stefaans> oh well, maybe I must try during the day
[28-Oct-2007 18:21:52] <stefaans> bye all
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[29-Oct-2007 05:53:23] <darkhorse> does anyone know what would prevent zenoss from detecting network topology?
[29-Oct-2007 05:53:44] <darkhorse> for example, it has no idea that hosts located behind router X are dependant upon it
[29-Oct-2007 05:53:58] <darkhorse> so if the router goes down we get alarms for everything
[29-Oct-2007 05:54:16] <darkhorse> i know this is a feature, we just must be missing something simple to enable it
[29-Oct-2007 09:30:14] <Folke> Arrh, I am in souch pain over 2 graph thingies in zenoss
[29-Oct-2007 09:31:02] <Folke> First I try to get check_nt get stuff from nsclient. And it works like a charm.
[29-Oct-2007 09:31:46] <Folke> But I can't find any info how zenossperf want it's input. Any info how the syntax should be?
[29-Oct-2007 11:25:59] <mf2ng> hmm, is there no reasonable way to add OID-mappings? i mean that it's quite ridicilous idea to manually add every OID mapping needed
[29-Oct-2007 11:28:20] <mf2ng> For example i have hmm, several various laser/thermal/line-printers of different vendors, various rf-base stations (non 802.11), etc that have hmm... at least hundreds of OID's that would have to be added manually
[29-Oct-2007 12:20:11] <pablo26> hi all
[29-Oct-2007 12:20:25] <pablo26> how do i upggrade from 2.0.4 to 2.1?
[29-Oct-2007 12:24:35] <pablo26> ll
[29-Oct-2007 13:02:08] <rdb_> "10.31.20.3 sendto error Host BLAH-BLAH and server.domain.tld are both using ip 10.31.20.3"
[29-Oct-2007 13:02:19] <rdb_> What is that error telling me?
[29-Oct-2007 13:02:30] <rdb_> I don't even know where Zenoss is getting "server.domain.tld" - I haven't input it anywhere.
[29-Oct-2007 13:36:31] <Robbadub> Pablo rpm -Uvh zenpackage.rpm
[29-Oct-2007 13:37:19] <Robbadub> The must be another ip10.31.20.3 host in the network
[29-Oct-2007 13:37:32] <Robbadub> This could be a rogue laptop or something
[29-Oct-2007 13:57:26] <mf2ng> rdb_: check /etc/hosts
[29-Oct-2007 13:57:51] <mf2ng> so, there's no1 here hwo could help with mib thingies?
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[29-Oct-2007 14:40:24] <pablo26> how do i upggrade from 2.0.4 to 2.1?
[29-Oct-2007 14:44:51] <jds2001> does anyone know how the software tab is populated for a linux device?
[29-Oct-2007 14:44:59] <jds2001> under the /Servers/Linux default class?
[29-Oct-2007 14:45:39] <jds2001> mine doesn't appear to be populating at all. I've verified that the data is accessible, but I'm not sure how to tell where it's accessing the data at.
[29-Oct-2007 14:46:20] <jds2001> i.e. what OID
[29-Oct-2007 14:47:29] <mf2ng> hmm, iirc i saw some thread in the web about that
[29-Oct-2007 14:53:32] <mf2ng> sorry, seem's that i can't find it anymore
[29-Oct-2007 16:34:48] <eurowerke> anyone know of a way to monitor an FTP server, e.g. to make a connection test to it?
[29-Oct-2007 16:35:53] <Robbadub> what do you mean
[29-Oct-2007 16:37:42] <Robbadub> You could log to the syslogserver
[29-Oct-2007 16:38:03] <jds2001> oh, if anyone is concerned about the software installation question that i had - the answer is that you have to add the collector plugin zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalled to the device class :-)
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[29-Oct-2007 16:38:45] <jds2001> then re-model and everything is splendid :-)
[29-Oct-2007 16:40:47] <eurowerke> Robbadub: I mean to somehow monitor an FTP connection
[29-Oct-2007 16:40:53] <eurowerke> I mean... I see check_tcp
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:04] <Robbadub> What kind of ftp server?
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:27] <eurowerke> but do you think the fact that I can connect to port 21 would guarantee that the connection will work to download?
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:29] <eurowerke> ProFTPD
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:42] <Robbadub> Does it have a way to log to syslog?
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:02] <eurowerke> dunno... perhaps
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:09] <eurowerke> I haven't set up any linux monitoring yet
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:10] <Robbadub> make it syslog to the zenoss server
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:15] <eurowerke> oh I see
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:35] <eurowerke> I figured you mean log to syslog then import syslog to zenoss
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:39] <eurowerke> meant*
[29-Oct-2007 16:45:47] <eurowerke> also, is there a way to set a default sorting for the Device List?
[29-Oct-2007 16:47:21] <Robbadub> Click on the headers to sort. Be carefull with the sort string in the eventmanager-fields section.
[29-Oct-2007 16:47:49] <Robbadub> error make your MySQL queries invalid and can render your interface unusable
[29-Oct-2007 16:50:34] <pablo26> how do i upggrade from 2.0.4 to 2.1?
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:06] <Robbadub> rpm -Uvh zenoss.packagename.rpm
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:31] <pablo26> mmm i have debian
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:47] <Robbadub> DEbian has a package manager too
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:58] <Robbadub> yum?
[29-Oct-2007 16:53:10] <pablo26> but there is no package for debian, i had to install from source
[29-Oct-2007 16:56:44] <mf2ng> it's possible to install rpm's in debian
[29-Oct-2007 16:59:30] <mf2ng> or you can convert rpm's to deb
[29-Oct-2007 16:59:38] <jlar> pablo: http://www.howtoforge.com/converting_rpm_to_deb_with_alien
[29-Oct-2007 16:59:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Converting .rpm Packages To Debian/Ubuntu .deb Format With Alien | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials (at www.howtoforge.com)
[29-Oct-2007 17:01:14] <pablo26> i'll try that
[29-Oct-2007 17:01:42] <pablo26> i need to use a feature that is not working on the version i have
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[29-Oct-2007 17:08:21] <jlar> pablo: here's a link to some information on upgrading from source
[29-Oct-2007 17:08:24] <jlar> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3630&highlight=upgrade
[29-Oct-2007 17:08:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to update from 2.0.6 to 2.1.0 (at community.zenoss.com)
[29-Oct-2007 17:09:37] <jlar> I didn't have the troubles that the poster is listing there, but your mileage may vary
[29-Oct-2007 17:10:39] <jlar> ostensibly, you should be able to shutdown all zenoss processes, extract the latest source, and run install.sh
[29-Oct-2007 17:10:55] <pablo26> i'm trying that in a moment i'll know if it worked for me
[29-Oct-2007 17:11:03] <jlar> good luck!
[29-Oct-2007 17:11:14] <pablo26> u dont even need to stop zenoss, it will stop it automatically
[29-Oct-2007 17:12:11] <pablo26> i need to use the httmonitor zenpack and in 2.0.4 version gives warnings everytime
[29-Oct-2007 17:14:02] <jlar> i've read that that can be a problem.... haven't dabbled with it yet though
[29-Oct-2007 17:32:15] <pablo26> jlar it worked perfectly for me
[29-Oct-2007 17:33:29] <jlar> fantastic. did the new version solve your httpmonitor issue?
[29-Oct-2007 17:37:48] <pablo26> no
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:03] <pablo26> i get this event as warning: chown root:zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:04] <pablo26> chmod 04750 /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:11] <pablo26> oh, not that
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:19] <pablo26> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 89786 bytes in 2.619 seconds
[29-Oct-2007 17:43:14] <jlar> :-( afraid i'm no help there... that's next week's task for me
[29-Oct-2007 17:44:38] <pablo26> the command is working ok, but i dont know why i get it as a warning, the nagios message sends the status to stderr
[29-Oct-2007 17:49:13] <jlar> perhaps that's the setting for the type of event? e.g. when i set up a threshold for my filesystem template i can choose whether an event is info, warning, etc
[29-Oct-2007 17:49:43] <jlar> maybe you have to set it so that "OK" isn't an event... but i'm just speculating
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[29-Oct-2007 18:02:13] <pablo26> zenping is dying and there is no info in the log, any idea what it can be?
[29-Oct-2007 18:03:47] <jlar> have you looked in the zenhub log?
[29-Oct-2007 18:11:12] <pablo26> nothing there, i've started manually and i dont see any errors, but its not starting
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[29-Oct-2007 18:16:25] <pablo26> this was the reason why it was dying Products.ZenUtils.IpUtil.IpAddressError: sodev2.intelligenx.local is an invalid address
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[29-Oct-2007 18:43:52] <pablo26> i've upgradefrom 2.0.4to 2.1 and now all the thresholds that i have disabled are working and i cant disable or delete them (they are deleted from the template but i still get the events)
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:37] <eurowerke> i noticed in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices there's still directories there from the devices I have added once but that now are not present or are named differently
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:43] <eurowerke> is there a way to flush out the old directories?
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:47] <eurowerke> without screwing anything up
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:47] <eurowerke> ?
[29-Oct-2007 18:54:02] <eurowerke> hehe I was about to delete them manually but then figured I'd check to see if that would cause any 'issues'
[29-Oct-2007 19:00:37] <davetoo> eurowerke: in my experience, zenoss will recreate anything that's missing if it needs to.
[29-Oct-2007 19:03:44] <eurowerke> hmmm
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:10] <eurowerke> in my experience, zenoss will farkup if I do something non-standard
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:13] <eurowerke> heheh
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:13] <davetoo> In that perf directory, that is.
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:37] <eurowerke> i'll give it a shot tho
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:48] <eurowerke> it seems most of the dirs are empty
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:51] <eurowerke> no .rrd files
[29-Oct-2007 19:05:00] <eurowerke> so hopefully won't cause any problems
[29-Oct-2007 19:07:34] <eurowerke> hey do you know where the zProperties page html is?
[29-Oct-2007 19:07:43] <eurowerke> do I edit that through zope or through a file?
[29-Oct-2007 19:08:00] <eurowerke> want to fix a typo
[29-Oct-2007 19:08:16] <eurowerke> then file bug report
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[29-Oct-2007 19:40:39] <JonathanD> hi
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[29-Oct-2007 21:14:59] <guyverix> can anyone on here perhaps assist with a TALES issue that I have been having trouble with?
[29-Oct-2007 21:21:45] <guyverix> would it help if I begged??
[29-Oct-2007 21:23:08] <Bulwinkle> I'd help if I even knew what the hell TALES is
[29-Oct-2007 21:23:17] <guyverix> grin
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[29-Oct-2007 23:30:40] <eurowerke> TALES is an expression of TAL, used by Zope
[29-Oct-2007 23:31:00] <eurowerke> http://wiki.zope.org/ZPT/TALESSpecification13
[29-Oct-2007 23:31:10] <adytum-bot> Title: TALES Specification 1.3 (at wiki.zope.org)
[29-Oct-2007 23:32:26] <eurowerke> I surprised myself with the bot-likeness of that response :-P
[29-Oct-2007 23:32:32] <guyverix> grin
[29-Oct-2007 23:42:00] <guyverix> now the intersting part will be to use what they are saying at zope.org and apply it to the interfaces in Zenoss
[29-Oct-2007 23:42:36] <guyverix> anyone got any spare Rogaine?? I think I am going to loose the last of my hair on this one! grin
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[30-Oct-2007 08:45:01] <Robbadub> GEntlemen and gentlegirls
[30-Oct-2007 08:45:25] <Robbadub> Can anybody tell me how to change the interface speed of a bonded interface in Zenoss
[30-Oct-2007 08:45:37] <Robbadub> I'm under the impression this could be altered in 2.1
[30-Oct-2007 08:48:28] <Robbadub> I have a 2 Gig bonded interface telling me it's 10 Mbit
[30-Oct-2007 08:48:46] <passie_> change the default ethercmd to ethercmd 64 ?
[30-Oct-2007 08:48:57] <Robbadub> ?
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:12] <Robbadub> Please elaborate....
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:33] <passie_> the default template = ethernetCsmacd
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:47] <passie_> this is a 32 bit counter and 2 gig doens't fit in that
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:52] <Robbadub> ah
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:55] <passie_> change it to ethernetCsmacd_64
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:31] <passie_> <-- not a expert so dont shoot the messenger
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:41] <Robbadub> lol
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:49] <Robbadub> Thanks for your trouble
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:53] <passie_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 08:51:48] <passie_> my company is still trying to get anwsers as well, and it looks like we are not continuing with zenoss
[30-Oct-2007 08:54:22] <Robbadub> That is too bad
[30-Oct-2007 08:54:26] <passie_> jup
[30-Oct-2007 08:55:01] <passie_> i just can't find any good monitoring sollutions which can cover everything from graphs to monitoring to internal check commands
[30-Oct-2007 08:56:02] passie__ is now known as passie
[30-Oct-2007 08:56:47] <Robbadub> Well Zenoss is still fresh
[30-Oct-2007 08:56:55] <Robbadub> Give them some time
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:07] <Robbadub> It's still a hell of a lot bettah than most other solutions
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:21] <passie> yes, i think that's the problem, i'll do but my target says to have a good sollution ready by the end of the year
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:35] <Robbadub> Bu sometimes I wish it would just be mush simpler
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:52] <Robbadub> Modeler think it should use this template. I tell it to use another
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:01] <passie> i could be , but must programs are build be a programmer perspective and not a user
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:02] <Robbadub> No questions asked
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:24] <Robbadub> Oh well that's the most ancient of dilemma's
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:38] <Robbadub> If you want it perfect you have to make it yourself
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:56] <passie> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 08:59:12] <Robbadub> But, as I found out the hard way, it's not easy to be omnipotent and omnipresent at the same time
[30-Oct-2007 08:59:33] <Robbadub> So i'll stick to being omnipotent for the time being ;-)
[30-Oct-2007 09:02:36] <passie> no that's true, i'll quote you for my manager
[30-Oct-2007 09:03:13] <Robbadub> That's ok. I'm witnessing it as we chat
[30-Oct-2007 09:03:14] <Robbadub> ;-)
[30-Oct-2007 09:52:24] <Robbadub> Anybody have a clue why Python takes up 100% of CPU once in a while
[30-Oct-2007 13:29:14] <Robbadub> Python does 100% cpu when I click to a page with a google map
[30-Oct-2007 13:32:50] <Robbadub> It does this for about 3 minutes and then responds with the page
[30-Oct-2007 14:01:06] PerlSta1ker is now known as PerlStalker
[30-Oct-2007 14:15:01] <Robbadub> With this error in the log: 2007-10-30T14:55:46 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x2c, class Products.ZenUtils.PObjectCache.PObjectCache) at /zport/RenderServer/render (135 conflicts, of which 0 were unresolved, since startup at Fri Oct 26 13:14:54 2007)
[30-Oct-2007 14:22:11] <Robbadub> Obviously there is a conflict in teh content of the Zope database
[30-Oct-2007 14:22:47] <Robbadub> This will hang the ZopeCTL process for a couple of minutes after which it returns to normal operation
[30-Oct-2007 14:23:06] <Robbadub> Does anyone have a clue as to what could be hte problem in the content.
[30-Oct-2007 14:50:10] <Robbadub> Hello earth
[30-Oct-2007 16:13:08] <eurowerke> that's the problem in this chan, whenever you *REALLY* want an answer to something, it's a bad hour... or something like that hehe
[30-Oct-2007 16:20:52] <Robbadub> lol
[30-Oct-2007 16:28:07] <MoreDakka_> Did they take out check_http in zenoss 2.x?
[30-Oct-2007 16:41:04] <eurowerke> nope still there in my install
[30-Oct-2007 16:41:16] <eurowerke> in libexec/
[30-Oct-2007 16:41:32] <eurowerke> or maybe it's there because I installed HttpMonitor...
[30-Oct-2007 16:42:01] <eurowerke> but when I create a Data Source, it lists HttpMonitor and check_http as types available
[30-Oct-2007 17:48:20] <eurowerke> anyone know how to fix 'unknown' port speed issues?
[30-Oct-2007 17:48:31] <eurowerke> seems they're all 'unknown' in propVirtual interfaces
[30-Oct-2007 17:48:35] <eurowerke> they used to work I know
[30-Oct-2007 17:59:37] <MoreDakka_> Anyone running 2.0.6?
[30-Oct-2007 18:16:53] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[30-Oct-2007 18:33:36] Eric___ is now known as Meldawn
[30-Oct-2007 19:03:20] <jsm> so i migrated my zenoss installation to another system, and from what i can tell it is working.. one problem -- the dashboard is showing "Zenoss Issues" with the device name of the old zenoss box.. anyway to clear these up?
[30-Oct-2007 19:12:48] PerlStalker is now known as PS-afk
[30-Oct-2007 19:43:04] <tmcnicho> Hello, can anyone point me to a guide on updating the virtual appliance from 2.06 to 2.1?
[30-Oct-2007 19:47:42] <MoreDakka_> Anyone install 2.0.0 and get a "Loading..." with a loading icon at the top middle of some pages plus an error " 'Dialog.Box' is null or not an object' ".... :-/
[30-Oct-2007 19:50:14] <tmcnicho> nevermind, i think i got it
[30-Oct-2007 19:52:10] <tmcnicho> my, that was disgustingly simple
[30-Oct-2007 19:53:10] <MoreDakka_> that's usually the way it is with zenoss....unless you find a bug...then it's not simple.
[30-Oct-2007 19:53:25] <darkhorse> heh
[30-Oct-2007 19:53:46] <darkhorse> i *think* i may have found a bug but i am still exploring it
[30-Oct-2007 19:54:53] <MoreDakka_> I just wish I could get my data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1.... :-/
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:12] <tmcnicho> Well, i assumed i needed to stop zenoss, and then simply issue conary update zenoss
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:14] <tmcnicho> is that really it?
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:43] <darkhorse> has anyone else experienced this: when say a router goes down that has many devices behind it, the supression works where it does not report the devices as being down, however, i still get alarms for every monitored service, just not the pinging...
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:51] <MoreDakka_> for updating v2.0.x -> 2.1 it should be that easy
[30-Oct-2007 19:56:53] <tmcnicho> It seems okay, but the dashboard seems pretty fubar. Going to clear my browser cache
[30-Oct-2007 19:57:58] <tmcnicho> Yeah, that seems to clear things up.
[30-Oct-2007 19:58:24] <MoreDakka_> omg...I can't believe I didn't think of clearing the cache..... <bangs head on table>.....GAH
[30-Oct-2007 19:58:30] <darkhorse> haha
[30-Oct-2007 19:58:46] <MoreDakka_> cleared up my issues to....lets see if data import works.
[30-Oct-2007 19:59:00] <tmcnicho> whoa now, don't hurt the table
[30-Oct-2007 20:01:03] <MoreDakka_> Thanks....I see you're looking out for my wellbeing.
[30-Oct-2007 20:01:59] <tmcnicho> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 20:02:14] <tmcnicho> Now if only my Google Maps would work, i put the API key in.
[30-Oct-2007 20:03:52] <MoreDakka_> what's it doing?
[30-Oct-2007 20:04:03] <tmcnicho> the portlet comes up to a zenoss error screen
[30-Oct-2007 20:04:17] <MoreDakka_> Hm, haven't seen that one yet.
[30-Oct-2007 20:08:59] <tmcnicho> Yeah, the traceback shows a whole slew of errors, not quite sure where to start. I regenerated the API key thinking maybe I had an extra space in it, but that didn't work
[30-Oct-2007 20:09:17] <tmcnicho> maybe there is a dependency not resolved?
[30-Oct-2007 20:09:40] <pablo26> hi all
[30-Oct-2007 20:10:31] <pablo26> anyone has httpmonitor zenpack working?
[30-Oct-2007 20:10:55] <tmcnicho> I tried to add it earlier, it appeared to be already installed on my 2.06VM
[30-Oct-2007 20:11:03] <tmcnicho> i have not attempted to configure it yet
[30-Oct-2007 20:11:48] <pablo26> i've configured but i get warnings all the time
[30-Oct-2007 20:12:10] <pablo26> with messages like this " HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 88092 bytes in 2.032 seconds"
[30-Oct-2007 20:14:30] <tmcnicho> are you sure they are warnings, and not info notices?
[30-Oct-2007 20:16:31] <pablo26> yes, they are in yellow
[30-Oct-2007 20:17:22] <pablo26> but it seems like noone is using that zenpack
[30-Oct-2007 20:19:40] <tmcnicho> maybe someone more familiar will chime in, honestly i don't know what to expect out of that zenpack
[30-Oct-2007 20:24:42] <pablo26> i cant replace my nagios monitoring because of that
[30-Oct-2007 20:26:03] <tmcnicho> its probably something easy
[30-Oct-2007 20:26:05] <MoreDakka_> pablo26: in earlier versions I setup a custom rule to use the nagios plugin of check_http. Works like a charm but that isn't in 2.1 now so I'm not sure what I'm going to do., I'll figure something out I guess.
[30-Oct-2007 20:27:30] <pablo26> in fack this zenpack uses the nagios plugin
[30-Oct-2007 20:29:21] <pablo26> no one is using it
[30-Oct-2007 20:30:47] <tmcnicho> should the geocache entry in my configuration be empty?
[30-Oct-2007 20:31:03] <MoreDakka_> To start with I think it is.
[30-Oct-2007 20:31:14] <MoreDakka_> then you enter a location and then it'll populate that.
[30-Oct-2007 20:31:16] <MoreDakka_> I think.
[30-Oct-2007 20:34:02] <tmcnicho> Right. but I can't even get to the maps tab in a location
[30-Oct-2007 20:34:24] <tmcnicho> i see one user posted a manual mysql-python update is necessary to go to 2.1, so i'm running that
[30-Oct-2007 20:41:41] <tmcnicho> im trying to apply this "google maps" patch
[30-Oct-2007 20:41:46] <tmcnicho> but the "patch" command isn't found
[30-Oct-2007 20:42:01] <pablo26> when i updated to 2.1i screwed everything up
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:13] <tmcnicho> everything?
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:17] <tmcnicho> sounds like just the httpmonitor
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:36] <MoreDakka_> bah.
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:39] <MoreDakka_> grrrrr.
[30-Oct-2007 20:46:01] <tmcnicho> still no luck?
[30-Oct-2007 20:46:19] <MoreDakka_> Well the clearing the cache fied one issue but I don't get my drop down menu in the top left of any of the windows that would have a drop down...
[30-Oct-2007 20:46:35] <MoreDakka_> So I can't do anything to the devices...unless that wasn't in v2.0.6
[30-Oct-2007 20:47:13] <MoreDakka_> It musta been since I don't have a manage tab and I can't run any commands on them since I'm missing that drop down.
[30-Oct-2007 20:47:58] <pablo26> when i upated all the thresholds that i had disabled in the templates appeared as enabled, and i couldnet disabled, even by deleting the threshold i will continue to send notifications
[30-Oct-2007 21:19:18] <MoreDakka_> anyone have any idea of my new situation? http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3712
[30-Oct-2007 21:19:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - migrating data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1...doesn't like me. (at community.zenoss.com)
[30-Oct-2007 21:20:46] <tmcnicho> my 2.1 upgrade is now utilizing 100%
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:00] <MoreDakka_> ouch.
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:32] <tmcnicho> i applied that google maps patch manually, didn't seem to make a difference
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:49] <davetoo> My solution: don't ever start the map
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:56] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:05] <MoreDakka_> that's such a fun feature in 2.1 though
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:36] <tmcnicho> so a reboot should clear it, as long as i don't try and look at a map?
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:41] <davetoo> I don't know
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:55] <davetoo> I don't monitor across wans so I haven't tried it.
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:10] <tmcnicho> bout to find out
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:12] <MoreDakka_> heh, it's fun to just throw devices in random locations.
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:15] <tmcnicho> i took it off my dashboard already
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:17] <davetoo> I just haven't had any CPU problems so was making an assumption.
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:30] <MoreDakka_> Wish I could get back to 2.1...with all my data
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:56] <davetoo> My plan is to tar up my current install,
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:02] <davetoo> dump a list of devices,
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:13] <davetoo> install 2.1 fresh, use zenbatchload,
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:19] <davetoo> and copy over my rrd files.
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:26] <davetoo> (in a nutshell)
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:45] <eurowerke> anyone here have any experience with high end video projection equipment?
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:03] <MoreDakka_> medium to low end...
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:21] <MoreDakka_> possibly even bottom-of-the-barrel end
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:27] <davetoo> I'm writing scripts to make the variable settings and organizers I use, and to dump the list of devices in a format that zenbatchload can use
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:48] <eurowerke> Christie DS+16k?
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:57] <eurowerke> err no DS+8k
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:58] <davetoo> I'm doing this partly to leave behind some mistakes I made earlier
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:05] <eurowerke> and Roadster 16k
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:17] <tmcnicho> sweet, all my daemons are dieing :|
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:21] <eurowerke> w00t
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:24] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:51] <pablo26> Viewsonic Office Theater 1060p is that high end?
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:55] <eurowerke> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:07] <MoreDakka_> 1060p?
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:09] <eurowerke> how do you all pronounce 'daemons'? more like 'DAY-muns' or 'DEE-muns'?
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:16] <tmcnicho> "day-muns"
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:18] <MoreDakka_> DAY i would think
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:39] <MoreDakka_> "POSOMGFRICKINGAAAHHH-muns"
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:40] <eurowerke> well, 1080p, yeah MoreDakka
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:42] <tmcnicho> actually i suppose i pronounce it more like day-mins
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:50] <eurowerke> yea
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:53] <eurowerke> me too usually
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:00] <MoreDakka_> 1080p...key, makes more sense ;-)
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:04] <eurowerke> lol
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:14] <pablo26> thats the model not the resolution
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:29] <eurowerke> ohh More, I thought you were talking to me
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:33] <eurowerke> ^_^
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:34] <MoreDakka_> What was the company thinking when they made the model 1060p....
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:42] <eurowerke> but yeah, the projectors I mentioned are 1080p
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:42] <pablo26> i had a very beatiful remote controll with an embedeed mouse, but someone lost it
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:43] <tmcnicho> yeah my virtual machine is using all 1.5GB of ram right now :|
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:59] <eurowerke> tmcnicho: how are you managing the time drift on that?
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:05] <eurowerke> my ubuntu server has like 30min per day
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:15] <MoreDakka_> euro....I didn't even know those were model #s.
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:16] <MoreDakka_> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:20] <eurowerke> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:30] <tmcnicho> what do you mean?
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:05] <eurowerke> virtual linux servers have a problem with time drift
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:13] <eurowerke> not sure about all
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:18] <tmcnicho> haven't really addressed it at all
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:21] <eurowerke> but debian based and others do
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:25] <davetoo> Don't they have ntpd?
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:25] <eurowerke> check what time your server says it is
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:34] <davetoo> Is there too much drift for ntpd?
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:39] <eurowerke> yeah, but if there is no correction implemented, ntpd actually can't keep up
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:53] <eurowerke> I am using a builtin kernel param that helps a LOT
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:58] <tmcnicho> look at that, its 8 minutes behind
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:02] <eurowerke> I thought ntpd was running, but prob not
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:10] <eurowerke> that's not bad tmc
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:25] <eurowerke> mine is 15 min behind right now
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:32] <eurowerke> as root
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:33] <eurowerke> run
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:33] <tmcnicho> still doesn't help my 100% proc utilization
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:34] <tmcnicho> :|
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:39] <eurowerke> hwclock --hctosys
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:52] <eurowerke> then check tomorrow, see how much drift you get
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:15] <tmcnicho> when i run hwclock, its dead on
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:32] <eurowerke> yeah, cause it reads the hardware (BIOS) clock
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:38] <tmcnicho> gotcha
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:53] <eurowerke> so when you run that command, it sets the system (software) clock to the hardware clock
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:02] <eurowerke> you can also do it in reverse, which I accidentally did once ^_^
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:14] <eurowerke> so I had to manually set it again he
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:15] <eurowerke> h
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:16] <eurowerke> heh
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:46] <eurowerke> just running `hwclock` reads out current bios clock
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:52] <tmcnicho> whoa, that network map feature, is DAMN cool
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:53] <tmcnicho> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:59] <eurowerke> heh
[30-Oct-2007 21:34:14] <tmcnicho> let me do it for our entire wan, see if it crashes
[30-Oct-2007 21:34:35] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:34:49] <tmcnicho> we only have 200 subnets, im sure it won't puke at all
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:07] <pablo26> is any way to edit the network map?
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:47] <tmcnicho> I don't know if you can directly edit, it appears to build it off the configuration of your networking interfaces
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:51] <eurowerke> yeah
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:58] <eurowerke> I don't think there's a way to work it
[30-Oct-2007 21:36:02] <eurowerke> I found it a little buggy still
[30-Oct-2007 21:36:06] <tmcnicho> i let it discover all my routers and switches so it drew it fairly accurately
[30-Oct-2007 21:38:44] <slagathor> hey...I am having a problem with adding devices
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:04] <slagathor> When I add a device, The deviceloader comes back with a blank screen
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:27] <slagathor> Just to verify connectivity, I tried snmpwalking the device from the server cmdline
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:33] <slagathor> everything came back ok
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:39] <slagathor> anyone else experience this?
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:08] <eurowerke> make sure your communities are specified right
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:10] <tmcnicho> i did, i can't remember what i did to fix it
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:20] <eurowerke> are you using public?
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:28] <eurowerke> or something else?
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:49] <slagathor> well...it depends on the device
[30-Oct-2007 21:41:05] <slagathor> but the communities I used i specified on both the cmd and the gui
[30-Oct-2007 21:41:14] <eurowerke> make sure all the communities you will be using are in the zSnmpCommunities list in zProperties area under /Devices
[30-Oct-2007 21:41:42] <slagathor> ok...they are
[30-Oct-2007 21:43:05] <slagathor> See that is what is so odd...I thought at first it was an ID 10T error on my part, but for the life of me I can't get the GUi to model the device
[30-Oct-2007 21:43:45] <slagathor> And the logs are not very helpful either
[30-Oct-2007 21:45:01] <tmcnicho> I had the same problem, I swear... I think it was something easy too
[30-Oct-2007 21:45:58] <slagathor> This is a recover from the server being powered down hard, is there a pid file that has to be cleared or a hung query somewhere?
[30-Oct-2007 21:46:43] <tmcnicho> Heh, someone at Apple has a sense of humor. Anyone see the article about OSX10.5 where the "pc" icon has a blue screen of death on it?
[30-Oct-2007 21:48:52] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:48:53] <MoreDakka_> nice
[30-Oct-2007 21:51:28] <tmcnicho> so should my "geocache" string be empty?
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:06] <eurowerke> if zenoss starts up fine with no errors, I'd assume that the pid files aren't an issue
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:16] <eurowerke> omg EVERYONE is calling ME today
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:23] <MoreDakka_> I haven't called yet...
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:25] <eurowerke> not the general helpdesk number
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:26] <eurowerke> d0h
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:35] <slagathor> that's kind of what I thought
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:43] <eurowerke> go ahead Dakk, 818.832.3400 :-P
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:45] <eurowerke> ahaha
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:51] <MoreDakka_> hold on.
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:06] <MoreDakka_> omg wtf....Porn #.....
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:11] <eurowerke> oh geezs
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:12] <MoreDakka_> heheh
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:13] <eurowerke> ^_^
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:16] <eurowerke> this is a church!
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:16] <eurowerke> haha
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:04] <MoreDakka_> what mib would I user to snmpwalk to get everything that device can give me?
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:23] <eurowerke> lol I wonder that too Dakk, I'm actually trying to figure the exact same thing out
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:24] <pablo26> see u tomorrow, bye
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:26] <eurowerke> with this projector
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:32] <MoreDakka_> ah.
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:45] <eurowerke> all the while setting up a new laptop on the domain and installing software/updates/more software
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:52] <progma> MoreDakka_: start with the hardware manufacturer
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:54] <eurowerke> and running to help people on hdesk calls
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:05] <eurowerke> I can't find any MIBs for my proj from the mfr
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:08] <eurowerke> so I called them
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:09] <progma> MoreDakka_: alsoo search for ipmonitor - their website at solarwinds has a detailed list of mibs
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:16] <eurowerke> not much help there either
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:43] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying snmpwalk -v1 -c<community> <ip> .1 that seems to have given me a list of stuff but what it is...>??
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:08] <eurowerke> just run without any oid
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:14] <eurowerke> -c community IP
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:21] <eurowerke> that dumps a bunch of junk
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:24] <slagathor> hey, how much gets jacked up if the hostname of a server is changed?
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:26] <MoreDakka_> yeah I tried that, trying to get oids for a redline radio,.
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:30] <eurowerke> at least in my experience
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:38] <eurowerke> slag, I had a lot of trouble
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:46] <eurowerke> err n/m
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:52] <eurowerke> i changed DNS name not hostname
[30-Oct-2007 22:06:00] <eurowerke> i changed the DNS to match the hostname
[30-Oct-2007 22:06:06] <eurowerke> and it screwed a bunch o fstuff up heh
[30-Oct-2007 22:06:14] <MoreDakka_> I feel sorry for the guy who has joejoe@hotmail.com
[30-Oct-2007 22:07:40] <eurowerke> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 22:07:43] <eurowerke> i use example.com
[30-Oct-2007 22:07:48] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 22:08:02] <eurowerke> since that's a valid domain but restricted for example use :-P
[30-Oct-2007 22:08:14] <eurowerke> i wonder how much mail that place gets hehe
[30-Oct-2007 22:08:50] <eurowerke> there's probabaly no smtp server, how much smtp traffic :-P
[30-Oct-2007 22:10:49] <MoreDakka_> poor poor example.com users. Imagine bob@example.com.
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:01] <MoreDakka_> Maybe they have a barracuda spam filter...if they are lucky
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:10] <eurowerke> more like
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:12] <slagathor> would be an interesting address to have though
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:14] <eurowerke> asdf@example.com
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:18] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:38] <eurowerke> it's a reserved domain not available for registration
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:45] <MoreDakka_> If that was my email address I would me like "OOoo...another free trial"
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:59] <eurowerke> owned by... whatever int'l internet org it is
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:19] <eurowerke> or US internet org, anyway
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:34] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:38] <MoreDakka_> Hahaha...
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:45] <MoreDakka_> awesome, just crashed the ipmonitor8.5
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:51] <MoreDakka_> sweet piece of software.
[30-Oct-2007 22:18:19] <slagathor> ok, is there an easy way to dump the config, remove the installation, reinstall, and reimport the configs?
[30-Oct-2007 23:37:58] <FelipeBare> Can Zenoss work with oracle database ?
[30-Oct-2007 23:38:34] <monrad> as backend?
[30-Oct-2007 23:38:43] <FelipeBare> monrad, yes
[30-Oct-2007 23:39:02] <monrad> no and zenoss only uses mysql to store events
[30-Oct-2007 23:39:11] <monrad> it uses an zope db to store everything else
[30-Oct-2007 23:39:53] <FelipeBare> what about monitoring oracle databases, disk ratio, user commits, etc?
[30-Oct-2007 23:41:26] <monrad> not directly, but it can use nagios plugins and i think there are a nagios plugin that does that
[30-Oct-2007 23:42:15] <monrad> but i am not there yet, we are kinda trying to get away from oracle so i am not really putting an efford into it
[30-Oct-2007 23:42:35] <FelipeBare> monrad, neither the Enterprise zenoss products ?
[30-Oct-2007 23:43:50] <FelipeBare> excuse me to ask these thinks, but our company is looking for a network/device monitoring tool
[30-Oct-2007 23:44:34] <monrad> no problem, i dont know about the enterprise product. But i guess they will listen if you throw money at them
[30-Oct-2007 23:45:08] <monrad> we mostly use it as an network monitoring tool
[30-Oct-2007 23:45:39] <monrad> but we are not ready to pay for the enterprise product when you have to pay per unit and we got an 2000 of them
[30-Oct-2007 23:46:49] <FelipeBare> it's hard!
[30-Oct-2007 23:47:12] <FelipeBare> I need something to monitor my services you know ?
[30-Oct-2007 23:47:46] <FelipeBare> hardware utilization per service (like oracle database), and so on..
[30-Oct-2007 23:49:33] <monrad> its also need a lot of ram and fast storage to monitor that many units
[30-Oct-2007 23:51:40] <monrad> just a sec need to fix my bed
[30-Oct-2007 23:51:49] <FelipeBare> ok:)
[30-Oct-2007 23:58:15] <monrad> and brush my teeth and stuff
[30-Oct-2007 23:58:52] <monrad> it can show how much ram and cpu each monitored process uses at least on linux
[30-Oct-2007 23:59:58] <FelipeBare> unfortunately i'll need to monitor lots of win2k3 machines
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[31-Oct-2007 00:01:43] <monrad> i dont know anything about monitoring windows machinces with zenoss, thats an other department
[31-Oct-2007 00:02:47] <FelipeBare>
[31-Oct-2007 00:02:53] <FelipeBare> monrad, where you from ?
[31-Oct-2007 00:03:54] <monrad> Denmark
[31-Oct-2007 00:04:03] <monrad> or you mean where i work?
[31-Oct-2007 00:05:59] <FelipeBare> where you work
[31-Oct-2007 00:08:13] <monrad> at ComX an smallish ISP
[31-Oct-2007 00:09:09] <FelipeBare> ok
[31-Oct-2007 00:18:57] <FelipeBare> 10pm here... i'm going, see you...
[31-Oct-2007 00:39:35] * eurowerke guesses so
[31-Oct-2007 00:39:40] <eurowerke> ^_^
[31-Oct-2007 04:25:37] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - trac Stats Gathering with Storm - 29 Oct, 11:06PM
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[31-Oct-2007 08:18:27] <Robbadub> 1: how do I make a report (containing <tal> layout tags) into a plugin? (ReportLoader.py yields an error "Traceback (most recent call last): File "ZenReports/Reportloader.py", line 7, in ? import transaction Import Error: No module named transaction ")
[31-Oct-2007 08:18:34] <Robbadub> 2: how do I copy or add a report to the Zope interface (without import/export function)
[31-Oct-2007 08:18:42] <Robbadub> 3: how do I add a report to the Zope interface using the import/export function?
[31-Oct-2007 13:11:41] <pablo26> hi all
[31-Oct-2007 13:12:12] <pablo26> i cant disable thresholds in zenoss 2.1, i'm the only one having that issue?
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[31-Oct-2007 14:04:27] <pablo26> how can i correct the network map, i have a router in the office with vpn tunnels to all the other networks
[31-Oct-2007 14:04:59] <pablo26> i added an ipRoute entry destination 192.168.13.0/24 next hop 192.168.13.1
[31-Oct-2007 14:05:12] <pablo26> but it does not seem to work
[31-Oct-2007 14:20:13] <Robbadub> I have the smae with the VPN's on my juniper cluster
[31-Oct-2007 14:20:46] <Robbadub> I suspect that since VPN's are virtual interfaces you will have to create these virtual interfaces on the device
[31-Oct-2007 14:23:28] <Robbadub> But this will only work for route-based VPN's not policy based VPN's
[31-Oct-2007 15:21:10] <MoreDakka_> Can there be a limited user added that will only see a specific system and only one system (or a group)? Shouldn't be able to see anything from any other system (including events, locations, groups...etc..etc). Can Zenoss do that?
[31-Oct-2007 15:26:31] <Robbadub> no
[31-Oct-2007 15:26:47] <MoreDakka_> bah.....
[31-Oct-2007 15:27:08] <MoreDakka_> do you know if it's going to be a feature upgrade?
[31-Oct-2007 15:27:18] <Robbadub> User can be limited to see a variety of details about systems and actions
[31-Oct-2007 15:32:35] <pablo26> i've created a group, an alerting rule for that group, now if i add a user to that group, he will be using that alerting rule?
[31-Oct-2007 15:41:22] <Robbadub> Dunno RTFM?
[31-Oct-2007 15:41:46] <Robbadub> And have you configured the alerting mechanisms smtp and snpp
[31-Oct-2007 15:41:52] <Robbadub> ?
[31-Oct-2007 15:51:43] <pablo26> i did it that whay and its not working
[31-Oct-2007 15:51:57] <pablo26> yes, te test email works
[31-Oct-2007 15:59:20] <thefish> hi *, can someone help me with adding an event for devices please? Im following http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-monitor-a-software-raid-device/ to monitor an md device. Ive added an exec called md_check to the devices snmpd.conf, and can get the results from snmpwalk -On -v 2c -c public device 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8
[31-Oct-2007 15:59:35] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - How to Monitor a Software RAID device - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Oct-2007 16:00:06] <thefish> so it returns 0 if everything is ok, and the results of `cat /proc/mdstat` on fail
[31-Oct-2007 16:00:22] <thefish> now i want to trigger an alert on <>0
[31-Oct-2007 16:00:44] <thefish> the author of the howto added something under the perfconf section, but i cant find this
[31-Oct-2007 16:10:15] <pablo26> to do that thefish u have to create a template, in the template a datasource type snmp with the oid u have created there and then a threshold with that datasource
[31-Oct-2007 16:10:40] <thefish> ok cool, then apply the template to all machines that want it?
[31-Oct-2007 16:12:39] <pablo26> if all of them are on the same class and u create a template on that class thats enought
[31-Oct-2007 16:15:33] <thefish> they are all on just the Device/Linux template, but there are some in that template with no md, so Ive made a MDRaid template now
[31-Oct-2007 16:15:49] <thefish> added the data source, but it doesnt see it in the threshold
[31-Oct-2007 16:16:25] <thefish> i add threshold, but "data points" is empty - should the collector i added be there?
[31-Oct-2007 16:24:04] <thefish> mm cant seem to get it happening, ive edited the exec script so that it will always send a fail, but there is nothing triggered in zenoss
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:05] <kgoedtel> and you are sure the oid exists and is returning an integer?
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:53] <thefish> kgoedtel, on success, it returns:
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.1 = STRING: md_check
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.1 = STRING: /etc/snmp/check_md.sh
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 = INTEGER: 0
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1 = STRING:
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:56] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.1 = INTEGER: 0
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:58] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.1 = STRING:
[31-Oct-2007 16:26:19] <thefish> from command `snmpwalk -On -v 2c -c public thedevice 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8`
[31-Oct-2007 16:26:46] <thefish> on fail, the contents of /proc/mdstat are sent
[31-Oct-2007 16:26:51] <kgoedtel> well i read that on the doc page, wasnt sure if you actually validated that
[31-Oct-2007 16:27:02] <thefish> ye thats from my machine here
[31-Oct-2007 16:27:17] <thefish> i think i have messed up adding the collector/template somehow
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:06] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 is always an integer though
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:23] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1 returns the mdstat contents
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:44] <kgoedtel> did you create the template locally to a device or in a device template?
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:53] <thefish> checking.
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:56] <kgoedtel> err device class
[31-Oct-2007 16:29:29] <thefish> ok so i went DEVICES > MENU > MORE > ALL TEMPLATES
[31-Oct-2007 16:29:58] <thefish> then in the secondary menu (ALL PERFORMANCE TEMPLATES) I chose ADD TEMPLATE
[31-Oct-2007 16:30:13] <thefish> called it MDRaid
[31-Oct-2007 16:30:42] <thefish> then added the data source, called mdstat, OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 enabled=true
[31-Oct-2007 16:30:51] <kgoedtel> did you verify that your device is in fact binding said template?
[31-Oct-2007 16:31:14] <thefish> i think so, i then went to the device, templates, bind templates
[31-Oct-2007 16:31:46] <thefish> and chose Devices/Server and MDRaid
[31-Oct-2007 16:31:57] <thefish> they both show in the templates for the device
[31-Oct-2007 16:32:00] <kgoedtel> hmm
[31-Oct-2007 16:32:33] <thefish> oh, ok now it shows an event!
[31-Oct-2007 16:32:46] <thefish> i promise it didnt before! im not drinking!
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:17] <thefish> heh, thank you for the help kgoedtel - im very new with zenoss, so getting confused!
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:28] <thefish> pablo26, thank you for your help too
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:33] <kgoedtel> hey, i think everybody is a bit confused
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:50] <kgoedtel> lack of docs :]
[31-Oct-2007 16:34:11] <thefish> mmm, as with lots of oss projects! at least not as bad as nagios though...
[31-Oct-2007 16:35:14] <thefish> is there a way to move this template now, so it can be under devices/servers/linux/
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:01] <thefish> oooh
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:20] <thefish> can i bind this new template i made to say server/linux, and have it inherit?
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:28] <kgoedtel> you can copy it while viewing the device class templates
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:37] <kgoedtel> you can
[31-Oct-2007 16:37:00] <thefish> cool
[31-Oct-2007 16:40:19] <thefish> sorry for the noise, but one more thing
[31-Oct-2007 16:40:51] <thefish> this managed to fire an event when the exec returned <>0, but is there a performance counter somewhere for this?
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:17] <thefish> id like to be able to see historic data on it, or even just see in an overview that it is OK
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:35] <kgoedtel> well
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:49] <kgoedtel> you can either graph it.. kind of pointless for binary data
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:56] <thefish> true
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:58] <kgoedtel> otherwise, i would just use history
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:10] <thefish> ok cool
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:14] <kgoedtel> event history will show all the recorded failures or whatever
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:22] <thefish> ah ok
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:25] <thefish> cool, thanks
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:27] <kgoedtel> even if the event doesnt persist
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:31] <thefish> how could i graph it though?
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:52] <kgoedtel> you would have to create a graph in your template that uses the said data point
[31-Oct-2007 16:43:02] <thefish> im thinking maybe for a temperature sensor, now i know how to get the data into zenoss, my brain is working a bit
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:10] <thefish> wow thats easy
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:11] <kgoedtel> i recommend viewing the default templates and learning from those
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:37] <thefish> i just added a graph for the binary mdstat, but i can imagine that the temp would be similar
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:47] <thefish> thank you lots for the help kgoedtel
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:55] <kgoedtel> also, if you are interested in beautifying your graphs you will want to read the documentation on the rrdgraph site
[31-Oct-2007 16:45:17] <pablo26> has anyone used the HttpMonitor zenpack?
[31-Oct-2007 16:45:28] <thefish> cool, will have a look at that
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[31-Oct-2007 17:08:13] <tmcnicho> you there moredakka?
[31-Oct-2007 17:08:20] <MoreDakka_> sometimes.
[31-Oct-2007 17:08:24] <MoreDakka_> what's up?
[31-Oct-2007 17:08:32] <tmcnicho> i get that same error on settings\menus on a clean install of 2.1 on CentOS5
[31-Oct-2007 17:09:22] <MoreDakka_> Well we are both up the creek without a paddle huh? ;-) I've tried v2.0.0, 2.0.6 and 2.1.0 with the imported data
[31-Oct-2007 17:09:32] <MoreDakka_> I can get v2.1 going no problem on a clean install.
[31-Oct-2007 17:10:13] <tmcnicho> my 2.06 VM was running clean i should have left well enough alone, its dead in the water right now
[31-Oct-2007 17:10:19] <tmcnicho> the zopectl process crashes
[31-Oct-2007 17:12:15] <MoreDakka_> Oh, you're also running VM....mine is a direct install on a CentOS machine.
[31-Oct-2007 17:12:27] <MoreDakka_> Did you backup your 2.0.6?
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:08] <tmcnicho> nah, its really a test environment i usually just pull the trigger
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:16] <tmcnicho> if it was in production, that would be a diff story
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:29] <MoreDakka_> haha
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:39] <tmcnicho> whats the default linux zenoss user's password?
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:40] <MoreDakka_> Yep. that's why I haven't touched our production server (v1.1.1).
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:46] <MoreDakka_> nothing
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:55] <MoreDakka_> that I know of...I've always had to set it.
[31-Oct-2007 17:19:10] <tmcnicho> I'll reinstall and see how it goes. The brain is tired of this stuff
[31-Oct-2007 17:20:53] <tmcnicho> i just have to kill the directories in /home and /opt to do a complete reinstall right?
[31-Oct-2007 17:22:08] <MoreDakka_> and the dbase too
[31-Oct-2007 17:22:14] <MoreDakka_> events dbase
[31-Oct-2007 17:22:25] <tmcnicho> sure, i'll drop that in phpmyadmin
[31-Oct-2007 17:25:59] <tmcnicho> im hoping i'll get another reply to my threat, would really prefer not to start over on my VM
[31-Oct-2007 17:26:04] <tmcnicho> thread, that is
[31-Oct-2007 17:26:20] <tmcnicho> then i'd have to expand the virtual disk again... sigh...
[31-Oct-2007 17:28:45] <tmcnicho> reinstall worked, i have menus now
[31-Oct-2007 17:34:30] <MoreDakka_> Well that makes one of us.
[31-Oct-2007 17:35:55] <tmcnicho> the first time i didn't delete the zopeDB
[31-Oct-2007 17:36:05] <tmcnicho> so obviously its something stored in there
[31-Oct-2007 17:38:12] <MoreDakka_> I think I'm becoming a master of reinstalling zenoss
[31-Oct-2007 17:38:13] <tmcnicho> seems a lot more responsive off a dedicated box, no surprise there i guess
[31-Oct-2007 17:45:00] <pablo26> where can i download the manual for 2.1? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/ is not working
[31-Oct-2007 17:45:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Documentation - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Oct-2007 17:45:33] <pablo26> oh now its working again
[31-Oct-2007 17:57:46] <tmcnicho> is there an easy way to export my devices?
[31-Oct-2007 18:00:24] <tmcnicho> well, probably not if its zope itself that won't start
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[31-Oct-2007 18:33:56] <pablo26> anyone is using groups of users? i've created one and the allerting rules i assign to that group are not been applied to the users of that group
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[31-Oct-2007 19:09:14] <tmcnicho> i get the feeling that functionality isn't there yet pable
[31-Oct-2007 19:09:16] <tmcnicho> pablo
[31-Oct-2007 19:09:37] <MoreDakka_> Or it's in enterprise.
[31-Oct-2007 19:10:16] <pablo26> oh
[31-Oct-2007 19:12:03] <tmcnicho> to be honest if i can't get it to work in core i'm gonna have a tough time selling my boss on the idea of paying for support :|
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:20] <tessier_> root 3543 3521 0 Sep02 ? 00:00:07 /usr/bin/python /opt/zenoss/bin/zeopack.py -p 8100
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:34] <MoreDakka_> I think you can get a demo of enterprise to see if it is in there.
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:39] <tessier_> Why do I have a couple months worth of weekly zeopack processes hanging around on my server?
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:46] <pablo26> if i dont get httpmonitor to work i'll have to put nagios back
[31-Oct-2007 19:27:05] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[31-Oct-2007 19:28:01] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Oct-2007 19:36:08] <tessier_> I don't understand how zenoss monitors services. I created an IP service called ssh. I don't see where I can configure what host to monitor ssh on. Does it monitor port 22 everywhere on all hosts? It also says 0 instances. But I have ssh running on dozens of hosts here.
[31-Oct-2007 19:36:11] <tessier_> I must be missing something...
[31-Oct-2007 19:40:09] <tessier_> And for "expect regex" can I just put in a string that should match somewhere in a line I get or do I have to match exactly? Like will "OpenSSH" suffice or do I have to say ".*OpenSSH.*" ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:40:16] <tessier_> minus the quotes of course
[31-Oct-2007 19:41:49] <tmcnicho> there probably already was an IP service called SSH
[31-Oct-2007 19:42:13] <tmcnicho> go to the host you want to monitor, on the IP services table click the dropdown and click add service
[31-Oct-2007 19:42:21] <tmcnicho> and start to type ssh and see if it finishes it for you
[31-Oct-2007 19:42:38] <MoreDakka_> Wish I had a drop down menu
[31-Oct-2007 19:46:30] <tmcnicho> well, hold on, i think it changed in 2.1
[31-Oct-2007 19:46:37] <tessier_> tmcnicho: You mean go to the device I want to monitor? Like /Devices/Server/Linux/home.copilotco.com ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:46:53] <tessier_> I don't see an IP services table there
[31-Oct-2007 19:47:16] <tmcnicho> i could swear it was in the OS tab of the device
[31-Oct-2007 19:47:42] <tessier_> Oh, in the OS tab...ok
[31-Oct-2007 19:48:26] <tmcnicho> you have to enable monitoring for the service, and then apply that service to the devices you want to monitor it for
[31-Oct-2007 19:48:30] <tmcnicho> but i can't get it to show up
[31-Oct-2007 19:49:12] <tmcnicho> ssh is already in there, under ip services / privileged
[31-Oct-2007 19:50:16] <FelipeBare> does zenoss have an agent ? Or it only gets info from snmp ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:51:26] <tmcnicho> primarily SNMP, for windows boxes, it will pull eventlog information thru WMI
[31-Oct-2007 19:51:38] <tmcnicho> but for the most part, its all over SNMP
[31-Oct-2007 19:52:08] <FelipeBare> tmcnicho, Thanks.
[31-Oct-2007 19:52:58] <FelipeBare> tmcnicho, the same for linux services like logs etc ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:53:39] <tmcnicho> i believe it can do more for linux through scripts and such
[31-Oct-2007 19:54:05] <FelipeBare> ok
[31-Oct-2007 19:54:17] <tmcnicho> i haven't looked at the linux monitoring side yet, honestly
[31-Oct-2007 19:54:33] <tmcnicho> i explodified my virtual machine this morning
[31-Oct-2007 19:55:32] <tessier_> Ok, I think I'm starting to get this...
[31-Oct-2007 19:55:49] <tessier_> zenoss is much easier than nagios once you get the hang of it...
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:18] <JonathanD> my zenoss install got all quirky yesterday
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:23] <tmcnicho> Yeah, I found the learning curve to be a little high, once i got the concept i got moving pretty quickly
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:24] <JonathanD> but I haven't yet explored why
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:56] <tmcnicho> my only two big hurdles have been expanding the disk of the virtual machine, and now my botched upgrade today
[31-Oct-2007 19:57:09] <tmcnicho> silly me should have made a copy of my virtual disk before doing anything
[31-Oct-2007 19:57:24] <tmcnicho> thats what i get for being a cowboy
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:19] <JonathanD> oh, that could be it
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:22] <JonathanD> mysql was stopped
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:32] <tmcnicho> that'll do it every time
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:42] <tmcnicho> make sure you edit your runlevel to include it
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:43] <JonathanD> a more verbose error state might be nice though
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:53] <JonathanD> instead of just silently failing and displaying nothing
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:58] <tmcnicho> yeah, i love this nice cryptic error messages
[31-Oct-2007 19:59:20] <tmcnicho> they could at least humor us with a "he's dead jim"
[31-Oct-2007 20:02:56] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[31-Oct-2007 20:20:31] <tessier_> hmm...I click "add device" on the left, type in the IP of the device, choose the path where I want it, leave the discovery protocol set to snmp...then click "Add device". Then I go to /DeviceLoader and see an Add Device table with nothing in it.
[31-Oct-2007 20:20:44] <tessier_> And the device does not appear in the device list under /Servers/Linux where I put it.
[31-Oct-2007 20:21:06] <tessier_> I could swear I was able to add devices a couple months ago when I last messed with this...
[31-Oct-2007 21:27:42] <tessier_> grrr...I can't add any new devices and I have no idea why
[31-Oct-2007 21:41:52] <tessier_> util01 zenping heartbeat failure
[31-Oct-2007 21:41:54] <tessier_> hmmm
[31-Oct-2007 21:48:58] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[31-Oct-2007 21:54:53] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Oct-2007 21:55:38] <tessier_> I wonder if this is all related to my snmpd having problems...
[31-Oct-2007 22:54:47] <tessier_> Crap. I just did a discover on a network with a ton of machines and it didn't find a thing...wtf?
[31-Oct-2007 22:54:52] PerlStalker is now known as PS-afk
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[01-Oct-2007 06:55:01] <m1r> morning all
[01-Oct-2007 08:28:17] <Folke> Anyone out there with problems with zenwin and checks on other subnets?
[01-Oct-2007 08:36:37] <Folke> and dying zenhub after that...
[01-Oct-2007 08:40:46] <m1r> i am still trying to get device in list :/
[01-Oct-2007 08:41:12] <m1r> any help is welcome
[01-Oct-2007 08:41:56] <Folke> did you use add device?
[01-Oct-2007 08:44:54] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 08:44:58] <m1r> but nothing shows up
[01-Oct-2007 08:45:16] <m1r> i tried with wget also
[01-Oct-2007 08:46:27] <m1r> no IP found for name siemens
[01-Oct-2007 08:46:55] <Freak> locationGeoMap only shows me one out of two devic locations (actually it shows me the first one I've entered) - is that a n error? shouldnt it show me both available devices?
[01-Oct-2007 08:47:36] <Freak> *device
[01-Oct-2007 08:51:26] <Folke> mlr: can you get name resolution from the zenoss server to the siemens server?
[01-Oct-2007 08:51:56] <m1r> folke, i can ping it
[01-Oct-2007 08:52:23] <m1r> siemens is dsl/router/AP
[01-Oct-2007 08:52:52] <Freak> try the IP address then
[01-Oct-2007 08:53:09] <m1r> thru managment/add device ?
[01-Oct-2007 08:53:57] <Freak> take Classes->Devices->Dropdown-Arrow->Manage->Add Device
[01-Oct-2007 08:54:36] <m1r> ok sec
[01-Oct-2007 08:57:19] <m1r> it was loading , and then left field blank
[01-Oct-2007 08:58:45] <m1r> dont work :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:00:12] <m1r> maybe i configured snmpconf wrong
[01-Oct-2007 09:02:48] <Folke> mlr: sry was afk..
[01-Oct-2007 09:03:05] <Folke> m1r: can you snmpwalk it?
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:07] <m1r> np, me too, making coffe
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:21] <m1r> snmpwalk , i just read about that option
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:38] <m1r> how could i use it ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:04:43] <m1r> snmpwalk IP ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:05:20] <m1r> snmpwalk 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:05:20] <m1r> snmpwalk: Timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:06:43] <m1r> does that mean snmpd is configured wrong ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:14] <Freak> most likely if you can reach the box otherwise.
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:26] <m1r> i can ping it :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:29] <Freak> be sure snmpd is running
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:36] <m1r> just sec to check
[01-Oct-2007 09:07:37] <Freak> ps aux|grep snm
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:06] <m1r> usr/local/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf --cycle --daemon
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:15] <Freak> thats not snmpd
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:33] <m1r> root 5528 0.0 0.1 2880 748 pts/0 R+ 13:10 0:00 grep snmpd
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:41] <Freak> thats grep
[01-Oct-2007 09:08:50] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:11] <Freak> what system ru on?
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:16] <m1r> ubuntu 7.04
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:25] <m1r> server
[01-Oct-2007 09:09:50] <m1r> what port does snmp uses ? 161 ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:14] <Freak> so do: sudo apt-get install snmpd
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:22] <Freak> i guess
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:31] <m1r> i have it already
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:48] <Freak> then you have to start it
[01-Oct-2007 09:10:56] <Freak> sudo /etc/init.d/snmpd start
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:06] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:12] <m1r> now try walking ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:23] <Freak> did that workþ
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:26] <Freak> ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:32] <m1r> timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:41] <Folke> m1r: can you netstat -an|grep 161
[01-Oct-2007 09:11:47] <m1r> yes one sec
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:07] <m1r> udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:*
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:22] <m1r> freak , snmpd is runing
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:29] <Freak> hum.
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:36] <m1r> i mean restarted
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:41] <Freak> but walking still doesnt work?
[01-Oct-2007 09:12:46] <m1r> no
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:02] <m1r> i used: snmpwalk 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:19] <m1r> maybe some other option with that command =?
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:20] <Folke> m1r: do you use version 1 or 2 ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:13:34] <m1r> folke, just to check
[01-Oct-2007 09:14:31] <m1r> Zenoss 2.0.90 r6648
[01-Oct-2007 09:14:58] <Freak> m1r: I guess Folke means which snmp version you are using.
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:14] <m1r> how can i check that ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:34] <Freak> but actually you might be right and he meant zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:36] <Freak> idunno
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:38] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:43] <m1r>
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:50] <Freak> um.. just a second
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:54] <m1r> i guessed zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 09:15:59] <Folke> m1r: cat /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf I think..
[01-Oct-2007 09:16:50] <Folke> m1r: sorry for talking out right.
[01-Oct-2007 09:16:59] <m1r> np
[01-Oct-2007 09:17:07] <m1r> but i got big list here
[01-Oct-2007 09:17:16] <m1r> with cat /etc/...
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:03] <Freak> so on Debian unstable snmpd is configured to use SNMPv1 and v2 by default - I guess Ubuntu will do the same then
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:14] <Freak> m1r: use less.
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:20] <Freak> less /etc/...
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:31] <m1r> i am in with vim
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:32] <Folke> m1r: humm, and with public as community?
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:40] <Freak> oh ic
[01-Oct-2007 09:18:46] <m1r> wait i pastebin
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:29] <m1r> hm, i have several entries in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity 192.168.1.250 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:31] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:32] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:34] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250 f
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:36] <m1r> rocommunity "public 192.168.1.250" 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:38] <m1r> rocommunity public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:20:48] <m1r> that is only strange in that file
[01-Oct-2007 09:21:07] <m1r> sry for paste here :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:22:02] <m1r> should i delete all but one ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:23:13] <Folke> m1r: if you try snmpwalk -v 2c -c public ipaddress
[01-Oct-2007 09:23:24] <m1r> ok sec
[01-Oct-2007 09:24:08] <m1r> i get options
[01-Oct-2007 09:24:36] <Folke> m1r: if you try snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.1.250 ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:24:49] <m1r> it pops me list of options for snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:05] <m1r> ait
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:06] <m1r> wait
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:08] <Folke> m1r: strange.. that should work..
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:13] <m1r> i didnt see public
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:24] <m1r> snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:24] <m1r> wTimeout: No Response from 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:58] <m1r> snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:25:58] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:26:18] <m1r> 250 is localhost ; 1.1 is dsl/router/ap
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:13] <Freak> m1r: we should maybe have a look at your network...
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:21] <Freak> what box are you on now?
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:29] <Freak> what box is the zenoss installation running on?
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:52] <Freak> from which box are you able to ping this 192.168.1.250 you wish to reach?
[01-Oct-2007 09:27:58] <m1r> laptop , 192.168.1.216 ; server zenoss , 192.168.1.250 ; router/AP , 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:20] <m1r> both boxes pings all
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:37] <Freak> so zenoss runs on 192.168.1.250?
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:41] <m1r> y
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:49] <Freak> and you're trying to monitor 192.168.1.250?
[01-Oct-2007 09:28:59] <m1r> nope, 1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:10] <Freak> ah, you mentioned that, i forgot..
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:10] <m1r> router/ap
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:20] <m1r> or laptop 1.215
[01-Oct-2007 09:29:26] <m1r> anything
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:02] <Freak> so .. does this router have snmp?
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:17] <Freak> and does the laptop have snmp?
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:18] <m1r> ye
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:32] <m1r> laptop no
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:52] <m1r> but i want just AP to be monitored for now
[01-Oct-2007 09:30:55] <Freak> okay, so you try to add 192.168.1.1 as a device now, right?
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:01] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:11] <Freak> and pinging it works
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:16] <Freak> from within server
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:27] <m1r> yes, all are visible on network
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:40] <Freak> then I dont see the error
[01-Oct-2007 09:31:43] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:32:03] <Freak> I dont see what could possibly prevent server from reaching router when using snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:32:28] <Freak> besides.. your network might in a way drop UDP traffic or so.
[01-Oct-2007 09:32:56] <m1r> how u mean that ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:34:21] <Freak> SNMP is a UDP protocol
[01-Oct-2007 09:34:56] <Freak> UDP is one of the two Transport Layer Protocols, such as TCP
[01-Oct-2007 09:35:13] <Folke> m1r: is it possible to snmpwalk the router?
[01-Oct-2007 09:35:16] <Freak> forget the "one of the two" part
[01-Oct-2007 09:35:35] <m1r> snmpwalk says timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:04] <m1r> snmpwalk 192.168.1.250
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:04] <m1r> snmpwalk: Timeout
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:47] <Freak> but didnt you want to snmpwal the _router_
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:50] <Freak> +k
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:58] <m1r> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=1.88 ms
[01-Oct-2007 09:36:59] <Freak> you just tried to walk the server
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:18] <Freak> snmpwalk -v1 192.168.1.1 -c public
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:36] <m1r> ok sry
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:44] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 192.168.1.1 -c public
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:45] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 09:37:54] <Freak> does the router have snmp enabled
[01-Oct-2007 09:38:15] <m1r> i think so let me check
[01-Oct-2007 09:40:22] <Freak> the router needs to support snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:40:34] <Freak> that means: it has to have snmp "installed" in a way
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:09] <Freak> what kind of machine is that router? is it a pc or is it merely a router appliance in a small box?
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:31] <m1r> siemens gigaset 515 dsl
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:49] <Freak> so just go get the handbook and look for snmp support
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:55] <Freak> snmp = simple network management protocol
[01-Oct-2007 09:41:58] <m1r> and guess what, it seems it dosent have snmp in web browser
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:06] <m1r> in web managment
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:24] <Freak> see
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:28] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:29] <m1r> checking now
[01-Oct-2007 09:42:30] <Freak> thats why
[01-Oct-2007 09:44:21] <m1r> nothing on google about snmp with that device but german language :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:46:05] <Freak> I'll have look..
[01-Oct-2007 09:48:56] <m1r> as i understand i need firmware update for snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:49:43] <m1r> not even that, ups
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:05] <Freak> theres no such model number on the siemens website
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:15] <m1r> se515
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:22] <m1r> ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:32] <Freak> is it 551?
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:36] <m1r> 515
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:41] <m1r> crappy one
[01-Oct-2007 09:50:48] <m1r>
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:27] <m1r> all in german :/
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:33] <Freak> searching for "se515" on the siemens website gives me "Nothing found."
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:42] <Freak> what are you trying to read?
[01-Oct-2007 09:51:48] <Freak> I'm german, just give me the url
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:06] <Freak> I was looking for a manual on the siemens website but cant even seem to find the model
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:14] <m1r> http://gigaset.siemens.com/shc/0,1935,hr_hr_0_42931_rArNrNrNrN_variation%253A-5_pageType%253Adownloads_imagePos%253A0,00.html
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:17] <m1r> this is model
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Siemens Gigaset SE515 dsl (at gigaset.siemens.com)
[01-Oct-2007 09:52:27] <m1r> gigaset.siemens.com
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:12] <m1r> TCP/IP, UDP, DHCP poslužitelj / klijent, DNS prijenos, RIPv1/v2, SNMPv1/v2c, Telnet, UPnP
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:18] <m1r> so it does have snmp
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:33] <m1r> but there is no option for on or off so it must be on by default
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:39] <oddjobz_> Hi, anyone seen this on 2.0.91 ...
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:41] <oddjobz_> Type: AttributeError
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:41] <oddjobz_> Value: dsnames
[01-Oct-2007 09:53:51] <oddjobz_> When looking at the perf tab?
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:02] <m1r> freak , folke , many tnx for your help, i must use my lunch break, will be back in 30-45 min
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:06] <Folke> m1r: perhaps it is started but the community is wrong
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:15] <m1r> how u mean folke ?
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:16] <Folke> m1r: lunch here too
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:20] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:27] <m1r> buon apettite then
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:46] <m1r> i must run or i miss the good food in local menza
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:48] <m1r>
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:54] <Freak> hrm "snmp" _does_ appear in the manual
[01-Oct-2007 09:55:59] <Freak> but only in the glossary section
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:02] <m1r> afk 40 min
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:04] <Freak> so I'm not sure
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:18] <m1r> damn,
think it should be on by deafult :/[01-Oct-2007 09:56:19] <Freak> oh you found it yourself. hum.
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:22] <Folke> m1r: snmp community, it's like a identifer for that snmp community
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:34] <m1r> damn guys i miss lunch
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:37] <Freak> you might still need to enable it or as Folke says, change the community string (that is some kind of password)
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:45] <Folke> m1r: like public for read and perhaps private for write..
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:46] <m1r> i c
[01-Oct-2007 09:56:50] <Freak> m1r: you wont die on it
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:00] <m1r> i lose my precious 100grams
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:02] <Folke> hepp. lunch cu
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:04] <Freak> heh
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:08] <m1r> need energy for work
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:12] <m1r> brb 40 min
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:15] <Freak> drink coke
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:31] <Freak> eat pizza
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:39] <Freak> do what all regular geeks do
[01-Oct-2007 09:57:45] <Freak>
[01-Oct-2007 09:58:13] <Freak> .. I'm having indian food delivered today..
[01-Oct-2007 10:35:08] <Robbadub> Hi
[01-Oct-2007 10:35:24] <Robbadub> Can anyone help me out clearing the histroy tabel?
[01-Oct-2007 10:51:24] <qubix> Robbadub: just use the following to e.g. keep two months of history:
[01-Oct-2007 10:51:27] <qubix> mysql events -uzenoss -pXXX -e 'call clean_history(2)'
[01-Oct-2007 11:27:59] <Robbadub> thanks m8
[01-Oct-2007 11:32:46] <Folke> is there someone out there who knows how I can batchimport a bunch of devices with help och the ip address
[01-Oct-2007 11:40:59] <qubix> Folke: tried zendisc already?
[01-Oct-2007 11:47:24] <pablo26> hi all
[01-Oct-2007 11:50:53] <pablo26> how can i set dependencies like i have in nagios, for example the other day a firewall went down and i get 50 notifications of all the devices behind that firewall
[01-Oct-2007 11:56:20] <Folke> qubix: I have a list of ip's from our nagios that I would like to import, all on different subnets and so.
[01-Oct-2007 11:57:19] <Folke> qubix: can you run zendisc from bash?
[01-Oct-2007 11:59:47] <Folke> pablo26: I think there was a thread about that in the forum.. I see if I can find it.
[01-Oct-2007 11:59:58] <pablo26> i'll look for it
[01-Oct-2007 12:01:16] <pablo26> mm i think i lookt there and it says that it should be automatically, all the devices had that firewall as gateway
[01-Oct-2007 12:02:25] <Folke> pablo26: didn't it work like it should?
[01-Oct-2007 12:02:48] <pablo26> no i get a lot of notification for every device 2
[01-Oct-2007 12:02:59] <pablo26> one for snmp agent down and another for ping
[01-Oct-2007 12:07:12] <Folke> pablo26: aouch.. wierd..
[01-Oct-2007 12:09:15] <pablo26> device 'ul01.i411.com' network '192.168.13.0/24' not in topology
[01-Oct-2007 12:09:19] <pablo26> this is the problem
[01-Oct-2007 12:29:46] <m1r> hi again
[01-Oct-2007 12:46:47] <m1r> seems i got some info from localhost; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39261/ , but with router still no luck
[01-Oct-2007 12:46:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[01-Oct-2007 13:07:14] <m1r> all right
[01-Oct-2007 13:07:25] <m1r> at least i got winxp monitoring
[01-Oct-2007 13:07:58] <m1r> not much of use but a small progres keeps man going
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:27] <Freak> m1r: so just go figure out how you activate snmp with that router box
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:42] <m1r> yes seems so
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:51] <Robbadub> di du use snmpwalk?
[01-Oct-2007 13:17:53] <Freak> m1r: probably it doesnt show up as snmp in the interface, maybe they call it "monitoring support" or something else, you know
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:13] <Robbadub> did u use snmpwalk?
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:14] <m1r> Robbadub: yes i did, timeouts
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:22] <m1r> Freak: i will check again
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:22] <Robbadub> ah
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:34] <Freak> m1r: the other thing might be the community key.
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:35] <Robbadub> no firewall in between?
[01-Oct-2007 13:18:58] <m1r> Robbadub: yes there is fw
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:04] <m1r> but it sees winxp pc
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:08] <m1r> so should see the router
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:11] <m1r> on eth0
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:29] <Robbadub> cab you pin git?
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:32] <Robbadub> ping
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:42] <Robbadub> sorry man my typing is waefull 2day
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:53] <Robbadub> Can you ping the router fromt the zenoss device?
[01-Oct-2007 13:19:58] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:01] <m1r> with np
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:08] <progma> heh
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:12] <m1r> all pc on network are >< pingable
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:17] <progma> is ur kybard massd ep
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:18] <Robbadub> excellent
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:34] <Robbadub> You were checking the snmp settings?
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:36] <progma> does router have snmp enabled
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:48] <Freak> history repeats itself
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:54] <m1r> yes i check Robbadub
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:58] <Freak> we had all these questions before
[01-Oct-2007 13:20:59] <Robbadub> osi 1 and rising ;-)
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:02] <m1r> seems i got too many input inthere
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:14] <Robbadub> what do you mean?
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:34] <m1r> let me pastebin 4 u
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:36] <m1r> 1 min please
[01-Oct-2007 13:21:40] <Robbadub> ok
[01-Oct-2007 13:22:58] <m1r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39263/
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:04] <m1r> this part is strange
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:05] * progma bets it is a typo with commnity name
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[01-Oct-2007 13:23:14] <progma> or firewall not allowing snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:25:58] <Robbadub> looks ok to me
[01-Oct-2007 13:26:10] <Robbadub> What kinf of router it is?
[01-Oct-2007 13:26:48] <progma> and you do "snmpwalk -v1 -c public router ip>" ?
[01-Oct-2007 13:26:50] <m1r> siemens gigaset 515 dsl
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:02] <m1r> sec progma
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:06] <Robbadub> ah
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:15] <progma> "snmpwalk -v 1 -c public <router ip>"?
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:22] <progma> i mean
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:43] <m1r> hmm ; snmpwalk -v1 -c public security 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:27:43] <m1r> snmpwalk: Error building ASN.1 representation (Can't build OID for variable)
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:18] <Robbadub> Bu that means that it does get snmp data
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:39] <Robbadub> But it can't resolve the OID's
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:40] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:29:40] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:04] <m1r> Robbadub: can u explain me a bit that OID ?
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:13] <Robbadub> These dsl routers do have a extra firewall setting
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:27] <Robbadub> it blocks certain kinds of traffic internally
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:28] <progma> m1r: use the 2nd line
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:48] <m1r> how u mean 2nd line ?
[01-Oct-2007 13:30:56] <progma> m1r: just use public
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:19] <m1r> just public ? times out
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:37] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:38] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 13:31:57] <progma> m1r: double check the snmp config on the router and make sure you are allowing from your monitor box or wherever you are snmpwalk from
[01-Oct-2007 13:32:29] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/231/md-231-1.html
[01-Oct-2007 13:32:33] <m1r> progma, 1 min i recheck router
[01-Oct-2007 13:32:37] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Fujitsu Siemens Computers (at www.oidview.com)
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:00] <Robbadub> Check if they have MIBS to load into zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:12] <m1r> Robbadub: ok, 1 min
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:23] <Robbadub> That's for later
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:29] <Robbadub> But first het the snmp working
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:30] <progma> m1r: also try "telnet 192.168.1.1 161" see if you get a response
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:42] <Robbadub> good suggestion
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:48] <m1r> i c
[01-Oct-2007 13:33:52] <m1r> i try that first
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:18] <m1r> aha ; Trying 192.168.1.1...
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:18] <m1r> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:28] <m1r> so , snmp not working on router
[01-Oct-2007 13:34:31] <m1r> i guess
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:18] <Robbadub> It means that is has no service running on port 161
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:32] <Robbadub> aka: snmp is not switched on
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:38] <m1r> that is problem
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:45] <m1r> i didnt saw in router config that part
[01-Oct-2007 13:35:58] <m1r> while on Dlink at my other place i have SNMP On/Off option
[01-Oct-2007 13:36:15] <m1r> i recheck router for snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:36:29] <m1r> on tutorial for that router it says it got snmp but i cant find it
[01-Oct-2007 13:36:35] <m1r> nm, i go recheck
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:26] <Freak> m1r: did you just say your community string was "secure"?
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:32] <m1r> i dont see siemens on that page u sent me Robbadub :/
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:38] <Freak> um
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:39] <progma> m1r: maybe, for whatever reason you can't connect to snmp server
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:42] <Freak> "security" I mean
[01-Oct-2007 13:37:57] <m1r> freak , no but it worked with it, as i recall i set only public on setup of snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:04] <Freak> then it would be "snmpwalk -v1 -c security 192.168.1.1"
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:19] <progma> maybe is just a checkbox to enable? also chck access filters fro snmp
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:38] <progma> m1r: what kind of router is it
[01-Oct-2007 13:38:48] <m1r> siemens gigaset 515 dsl/ap
[01-Oct-2007 13:39:53] <progma> it's always something silly
[01-Oct-2007 13:41:30] <Freak> like having bought the wrong router?
[01-Oct-2007 13:42:08] <m1r> well, for sure i bought wrong one, but at that time that was only stuff T-com was deploying to customers
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:05] <m1r> ok, my friend just reply, there is no option for snmp on that router, he says it is auto turned ON
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:13] <m1r> strange
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:21] <m1r> how small things can ruin your day :/
[01-Oct-2007 13:43:33] <m1r> damn t-com
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:25] <Robbadub> Sorry m8
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:27] <m1r> i call free service now and try to switch it for Dlink
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:30] <m1r> lol
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:48] <m1r> from all the routers in the world i get shi#est
[01-Oct-2007 13:44:51] <Robbadub> I would do that
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:02] <m1r> well mayn tnx for your help guys anyway
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:11] <m1r> i try check with tcom
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:13] <Robbadub> good luck
[01-Oct-2007 13:45:17] <m1r> tnx m8
[01-Oct-2007 13:46:22] <pablo26> m1r have check if there is some rule on the firewall?
[01-Oct-2007 13:46:57] <m1r> firewall lets monitor windows machine on 192.168.1.10
[01-Oct-2007 13:47:03] <m1r> so i guess all is ok
[01-Oct-2007 13:48:06] <m1r> if i couldnt see windows then i would thought FW is problem, but this way i think is ok
[01-Oct-2007 13:48:56] <pablo26> does the router has a firewall? have u checked there?
[01-Oct-2007 13:49:14] <m1r> i think i turned it off b4
[01-Oct-2007 13:49:20] <m1r> let me recheck
[01-Oct-2007 13:50:34] <pablo26> or just allow udp on port 161
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:13] <m1r> ok i got tcom enginer on line, now we see how they good
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:20] <progma> you can test with "nc" for udp connections
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:24] <m1r> btw i managed to telnet into machine
[01-Oct-2007 13:54:31] <m1r> it showed Login:
[01-Oct-2007 13:55:20] <m1r> waiting for guy to find login name for telnet
[01-Oct-2007 13:56:13] <pablo26> there are many pages where u can find the defaul password and users of this devices, very usefull
[01-Oct-2007 14:11:13] <m1r> can someone explain this please: snmpwalk -v1 -c public security 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:11:13] <m1r> snmpwalk: Error building ASN.1 representation (Can't build OID for variable) ?
[01-Oct-2007 14:13:40] <pablo26> which is your community string public or security
[01-Oct-2007 14:14:57] <m1r> on snmpconf i set public
[01-Oct-2007 14:15:08] <m1r> but when i put also securtiy it works
[01-Oct-2007 14:15:45] <pablo26> try this: snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:19] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:19] <m1r> Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:35] <m1r> snmpwalk -v1 -c public security 192.168.1.1
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:35] <m1r> snmpwalk: Error building ASN.1 representation (Can't build OID for variable)
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:46] <Freak> m1r: the second one is wrong
[01-Oct-2007 14:16:52] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:00] <Freak> m1r: snmpwalk tries to resolve "security" as the host
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:08] <Freak> and "192.168.1.1" as MIB
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:14] <m1r> i c
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:16] <m1r> tnx
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:23] <Freak> m1r: have you heard of "manpages" and "documentation"?
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:45] <Freak> or even "wikipedia"?
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:45] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:51] <m1r> yes
[01-Oct-2007 14:17:53] <Freak> okay, make some use of it
[01-Oct-2007 14:18:13] <m1r> ok
[01-Oct-2007 14:18:43] <pablo26> i cant solve this issue when monitoring windows servers: ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[01-Oct-2007 14:19:26] <Freak> http://www.google.de/search?q=%22The+semaphore+timeout+period+has+expired.%22&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01-Oct-2007 14:24:17] <pablo26> what i understand from that is that its an authentication problem
[01-Oct-2007 14:24:23] <pablo26> but i had disabled wmi
[01-Oct-2007 14:26:30] <Freak> sorry. I'm windows-illiterate.
[01-Oct-2007 14:28:59] <pablo26> lucky you
[01-Oct-2007 14:29:53] <Freak> heh
[01-Oct-2007 14:30:12] <Freak> what if I have a host that doesn't speak SNMP?
[01-Oct-2007 14:30:25] <Freak> it will always show "snmp not running"
[01-Oct-2007 14:30:37] <Freak> I know that it doesnt and I don't want it to run snmpd.
[01-Oct-2007 14:31:21] <Freak> ah its a template thing
[01-Oct-2007 14:32:28] <Freak> but I cant remove the template "Device" associated with the machine..
[01-Oct-2007 14:32:38] <pablo26> u have to set on zProperties snmpMonitorIgnore to true
[01-Oct-2007 14:32:43] <Freak> Imean.. I could create a local copy and delete all the snmp checks..
[01-Oct-2007 14:33:08] <Freak> pablo26: hmmm
[01-Oct-2007 14:33:38] <Freak> I created /Devices/Server/OpenBSD and I could only deactivate snmp for all my openbsd machines then..
[01-Oct-2007 14:33:46] <Freak> well maybe I should just create another sublcass
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:34] <pablo26> u can change the zProperties every where u want, on each device or in a subclass
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:40] <Freak> are there predefined templates for NRPE-checks I could somehow import (is that the "ZenPacks" thing??)?
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:49] <Freak> pablo26: really?
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:50] <pablo26> no
[01-Oct-2007 14:34:57] <Folke> pablo26: is it on another subnet than the zenoss server?
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:01] <pablo26> if u make one i want it
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:21] <Freak> but when I'm in the device overview, zProperties isn't in the tabs..
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:33] <Freak> oh its in the menu
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:34] <Freak> sorry
[01-Oct-2007 14:35:49] <Freak> I keep being confused by zenoss' complexity
[01-Oct-2007 14:36:12] <pablo26> that complexity makes everything easyer
[01-Oct-2007 14:36:46] <Folke> What really should be nice to have is to read from nsclient++
[01-Oct-2007 14:37:03] <Freak> pablo26: so is that what ZenPacks are for?
[01-Oct-2007 14:37:28] <Freak> can I like.. create and export them?
[01-Oct-2007 14:37:55] <pablo26> the idea is to create a community where everyone can share zenpacks
[01-Oct-2007 14:38:12] <Freak> pablo26: has that been accomplished yet?
)[01-Oct-2007 14:38:31] <pablo26> no, i'm still waiting for it
[01-Oct-2007 14:38:44] <Freak> =)
[01-Oct-2007 14:41:20] <Folke> pablo26: Bout the 121 wmi error.. I only get that problem when I monitor servers on another subnet
[01-Oct-2007 14:42:52] <pablo26> yes its in another subnet
[01-Oct-2007 14:43:08] <pablo26> but its not a timeout
[01-Oct-2007 14:44:30] <Folke> pablo26: I have exactly the same problem.. When that happens I need to move the events to history and restart zenoss.. Kill -9 locked zenwin* processes and start zenoss again..
[01-Oct-2007 14:45:02] <Folke> pablo26: It'a a bi*ch to do that everytime
[01-Oct-2007 14:45:56] <pablo26> and u dont get that error again?
[01-Oct-2007 14:46:30] <Folke> pablo26: Well, it stays quiet for a while.. But then it happens again..
[01-Oct-2007 14:47:19] <Folke> pablo26: It looks like a process that get stuck.. I will see next time it happens..
[01-Oct-2007 14:47:30] <pablo26> every time it remodels the device?
[01-Oct-2007 14:48:16] <Folke> pablo26: Nah, just happens.. Can't really say why.. Can be in tha middle of night..
[01-Oct-2007 14:50:10] <pablo26> may besome security from windows
[01-Oct-2007 14:50:21] <pablo26> or jus a bug from zenoos
[01-Oct-2007 14:50:51] <Folke> pablo26: The thing is that it happens on all the servers on another subnet.. Dunno really why.. Looks like a bug.
[01-Oct-2007 14:52:30] <pablo26> maybe some timeout problem that is not been handled ok
[01-Oct-2007 15:10:16] <pablo26> Folke wich version of zenoss are u suing?
[01-Oct-2007 15:11:23] <davetoo> all of them
[01-Oct-2007 15:11:33] <progma> <- 2.0.6
[01-Oct-2007 15:12:28] <davetoo> I'm anxious to see a stable 2.1 because I really need the multi-graph reporting
[01-Oct-2007 15:12:31] <pablo26> anyone else has the same problem monitoring windows on a different subnet?
[01-Oct-2007 15:12:47] * davetoo is not using WMI at all yet
[01-Oct-2007 15:13:07] <pablo26> i cant disable it
[01-Oct-2007 15:16:32] <pablo26> my dependencies are not working, when i goto the firewall properties i see dependient devices but when the firewall crashed all the host sent alerts
[01-Oct-2007 15:18:03] <pablo26> and i get this on the zenping search15' network '192.168.13.0/24' not in topology, any idea?
[01-Oct-2007 15:36:21] <davetoo> zenping builds a network topology tree using the route tables it learned from the local server and all the routers it knows about. Did you run 'zendisc --routers'?
[01-Oct-2007 15:39:36] <pablo26> no i let zenoss do it
[01-Oct-2007 15:44:28] <Freak> I asked this last week ago but didnt get an answer, maybe you know now: what can I set as data points for check_disk? I can't define e.g. "/" as a data point..
[01-Oct-2007 15:48:17] <Freak> I mean.. check_load gives me something like this: "load1=0.161;4.000;6.000;0; load5=0.110;3.000;5.000;0; load15=0.087;2.000;4.000;0;" so then I can set "load1", "load5" and "load15" as data points to draw graphs from
[01-Oct-2007 15:48:33] <Freak> but check_disk will produce DISK OK - free space: /dev/wd0a 820 MB (53%);| /dev/wd0a=713MB;1379;1456;0;1533
[01-Oct-2007 15:48:50] <Freak> or even DISK OK - free space: / 820 MB (53%);| /=713MB;1226;1379;0;1533
[01-Oct-2007 15:56:00] <pablo26> davetoo but in networks i see all the devices from a network that depends on the router
[01-Oct-2007 15:58:27] <davetoo> zenoss doesn't know that a device depends on a router unless that router and all the intervening devices, including the server that zenoss is on, have a valid route table. So look at the OS tab for those and make sure they're showing route tables.
[01-Oct-2007 15:59:58] <davetoo> at least look at the route table in zenoss for every device that shows up in a traceroute
[01-Oct-2007 16:01:28] <pablo26> on the os tab all routes are ok
[01-Oct-2007 16:02:06] <pablo26> on the router i dont have a valid routing table
[01-Oct-2007 16:02:15] <pablo26> i cant read it from zenoss
[01-Oct-2007 16:06:02] <davetoo> I'm confused
[01-Oct-2007 16:06:18] <davetoo> How many routers are in between the zenoss server and that network?
[01-Oct-2007 16:07:46] <davetoo> look, just do a "zendisc run --routers"
[01-Oct-2007 16:07:55] <davetoo> Maybe with -v10 set so you can see what it's doing
[01-Oct-2007 16:11:18] <pablo26> i have 2 routers in the middle because its a site 2 site vpn
[01-Oct-2007 16:12:53] <pablo26> that command wont find the other networks, i add them manually
[01-Oct-2007 16:19:20] <davetoo> Then you can't expect Zenoss to know how to put them in the topology
[01-Oct-2007 16:19:47] <davetoo> But you might try manually adding an IPRoute entry to the routers; I've never tried it.
[01-Oct-2007 16:23:38] <pablo26> if i go to /Networks /192.168.13.0 /192.168.13.1
[01-Oct-2007 16:23:47] <pablo26> i see a list of dependent devices
[01-Oct-2007 16:24:16] <pablo26> on saturday the 192.168.13.1 crashed and i get notification for every host in this list
[01-Oct-2007 18:12:04] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[01-Oct-2007 18:35:48] <mutil8> im having trouble with the discover discover devices functionality
[01-Oct-2007 18:35:57] <mutil8> Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor
[01-Oct-2007 18:36:00] <mutil8> gives me that error
[01-Oct-2007 18:41:47] <dschrock> mulit8: what is full commandline you are giving it?
[01-Oct-2007 18:45:17] <mutil8> Executing command: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net 10.10.0.1
[01-Oct-2007 18:45:23] <mutil8> im doing it from the web interface
[01-Oct-2007 18:45:38] <mutil8> i select the network, and then choose to discover devices
[01-Oct-2007 18:55:38] <JordanWilliams> gooooooooooooood afternoon
[01-Oct-2007 18:58:23] <progma> are you kidding, it's still monday ;>
[01-Oct-2007 19:23:52] <Dan000892> this place is dead today
[01-Oct-2007 19:24:14] <Dan000892> too many fires to put out, mayhaps?
[01-Oct-2007 19:24:54] <JordanWilliams> lol
[01-Oct-2007 19:24:58] <JordanWilliams> monday's suck.
[01-Oct-2007 19:25:18] <JordanWilliams> i've got an issue, is there someone around that could give me a couple moments of their time?
[01-Oct-2007 19:25:47] <Dan000892> i'll give it a stab
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:00] <Dan000892> unless it's beta
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:07] <JordanWilliams> nope
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:08] <Dan000892> k
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:25] <JordanWilliams> i've got servers that are setup in the device list, and i've added IPServices to them such as SMTP and WWW
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:40] <JordanWilliams> however, all the systems are showing the services are status "green"
[01-Oct-2007 19:26:52] <JordanWilliams> even if i add a service that would not exist on that server
[01-Oct-2007 19:27:57] <Dan000892> that's pretty odd
[01-Oct-2007 19:28:21] <Dan000892> let me try something on my dev device
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:28] <Dan000892> i have an answer (i think)
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:32] <Dan000892> you aren't monitoring it
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:38] <Dan000892> you think you are, but you aren't
[01-Oct-2007 19:31:49] <Dan000892> two places:
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:07] <Dan000892> first /<DEVICE>/OS/<Service Name>
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:11] <Dan000892> Monitor = true
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:31] <Dan000892> second click on Service Class link on that page
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:43] <Dan000892> Edit tab
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:46] <Dan000892> Monitor = True
[01-Oct-2007 19:32:55] <Dan000892> it's green because it hasn't failed
[01-Oct-2007 19:33:13] <Dan000892> I just tried it with Telnet and it was green til i fixed that second field and now it's yellow
[01-Oct-2007 19:33:35] <Dan000892> and now it's red
[01-Oct-2007 19:33:38] <Dan000892> after 2+ fails
[01-Oct-2007 19:39:07] <Dan000892> Jordan: worky or no worky?
[01-Oct-2007 19:54:36] <dgb> does anyone have any info on setting up JMX monitoring in 2.091
[01-Oct-2007 19:54:37] <dgb> ?
[01-Oct-2007 19:59:24] <progma> anyone using zenoss to monitor windows production servers
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:30] <MoreDakka> v1.1.1 we are.
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:37] <MoreDakka> win2k/2k3 servers
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:51] <dgb> likewise w2k
[01-Oct-2007 20:00:59] <mutil8> is the 2.x branch not recommended?
[01-Oct-2007 20:01:29] <MoreDakka> ?? I haven't upgraded yet and I don't like doing the upgrade process on anything I run...don't like breaking something that is working.
[01-Oct-2007 20:01:32] <mutil8> i just installed 2.0.6 and im having trouble with the device detection
[01-Oct-2007 20:01:47] <dgb> can anyone ahed a little light on why a cisco asa would so through device discovery and then keep reporting snmp down
[01-Oct-2007 20:05:15] <eurowerke> any devs around?
[01-Oct-2007 20:07:51] <progma> did you guys modify snmp with snmpinformant or something similar ?
[01-Oct-2007 20:08:15] <mutil8> i haven't
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:36] <mutil8> /usr/local/zenoss$ /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net 10.10.0.0/24
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:38] <mutil8> if i run that
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:42] <mutil8> Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor
[01-Oct-2007 20:09:45] <mutil8> i get that error
[01-Oct-2007 20:25:58] <progma> is there a way to mass change the monitoring from true to false of a bunch of servers in the same template (i.e./devices/server/windows/*)
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:09] <progma> or do i have to go through each dvice and click False
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:17] <pablo26> progma: to monitor windows servers install snmp and wmi form add or remove windows components install snmp-informant and configure snmp
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:33] <progma> pablo26: thx
[01-Oct-2007 20:26:46] <progma> pablo26: have you had any hiccups with snmp and windows server apps
[01-Oct-2007 20:27:47] <pablo26> progma to change one setting on all devices go to /devices/server/windows/ adn change the zproperties there
[01-Oct-2007 20:28:04] <progma> THANKS
[01-Oct-2007 20:28:07] <pablo26> i'm still trying to get them work right progma
[01-Oct-2007 20:28:31] <progma> pablo26: ok i've only done snmpinformant with nagios
[01-Oct-2007 20:31:03] <mutil8> any of you monitoring a sonicwall appliance? i can't seem to get SNMP to work with it
[01-Oct-2007 20:31:26] <progma> pablo26: i want to stop monitoring a drive; doesn't seem to be listed in zProperties
[01-Oct-2007 20:34:08] <progma> rather, i want to stop monitoring a file system
[01-Oct-2007 20:44:10] <progma> click through everyone, eh
how can i avoid this in the future, use a template?[01-Oct-2007 22:07:34] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[01-Oct-2007 22:10:15] <MoreDakka> Where can I get libmysqlclient.so.14 is needed by (installed) perl-DBD-MySQL-2.9004-3.1.centos4.i386 for the MySQL-Server/Client-standard (5.24a I think)? I'm ripping my hair out over this...
[01-Oct-2007 22:11:50] <mutil8> what distro?
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:21] <mutil8> oh duh
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:23] <mutil8> centos
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:26] <MoreDakka> CentOS 4.
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:44] <mutil8> how did you install perl-DBD-MySQL-2.9004-3.1.centos4.i386?
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:46] <mutil8> using yum?
[01-Oct-2007 22:12:57] <MoreDakka> Yum installed it.
[01-Oct-2007 22:13:05] <MoreDakka> I tried http://www.wesmo.com/rpm2html/contributed/RPMS/MySQL-shared-compat-4.1.10-0.i386.html but that just breaks MySQL.
[01-Oct-2007 22:13:18] <adytum-bot> Title: MySQL-shared-compat-4.1.10-0.i386 RPM (at www.wesmo.com)
[01-Oct-2007 22:14:19] <MoreDakka> I'm a linux newb and installing stuff on linux can go either one side or the other...it goes perfectly with no problems or you stress yourself out trying to figure out why it's not working....I'm at the stressing side right now.
[01-Oct-2007 22:14:19] <mutil8> kinda odd that yum didn't install it if it's a dependency of the package
[01-Oct-2007 22:14:55] <MoreDakka> It installed mysql mysql-server but when I go to update to MySQL-sever/client-standard then it asked for that dependency
[01-Oct-2007 22:16:47] <mutil8> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=24&topic_id=4969&viewmode=flat
[01-Oct-2007 22:16:57] <mutil8> that looks like it may resolve your problem
[01-Oct-2007 22:17:01] <adytum-bot> Title: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 4 - Server Support - Howto Upgrade MySQL 4.1 to 5.0 on CentOS 4 server (at www.centos.org)
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:11] <mutil8> if that doesn't work, let me know, and i'll try and dig a little deeper
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:38] <MoreDakka> You might be my hair's hero for today....It's just updating with centosplus yum rpms....
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:47] <MoreDakka> MySQL 5
[01-Oct-2007 22:19:48] <MoreDakka> yay
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:10] <mutil8> great
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:33] <mutil8> i never liked redhat/centos/fedora for reasons just like that
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:52] <mutil8> it's supposed to make things easier, but i always seem to have better luck with debian, or slackware
[01-Oct-2007 22:20:56] <MoreDakka> I just run what I'm told to run and have to figure it out :-/
[01-Oct-2007 22:22:02] <mutil8> yeah, i hear you on that one
[01-Oct-2007 22:23:24] <MoreDakka> When I'm trying to install the zenoss dependencies it pukes again on me
[01-Oct-2007 22:23:57] <MoreDakka> http://pastebin.ca/722307
[01-Oct-2007 22:24:04] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 722307 (at pastebin.ca)
[01-Oct-2007 22:24:14] <kgoedtel> centos isnt bad, but centos4 is old :]
[01-Oct-2007 22:25:00] <MoreDakka> I'm using it cause the box that is currently running Zenoss v1.1.1 is running CentOS4 so I want to test and upgrade and such to zenoss with the same os.
[01-Oct-2007 22:27:13] <mutil8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el4/
[01-Oct-2007 22:27:16] <mutil8> you happen to read that?
[01-Oct-2007 22:27:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL4 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Oct-2007 22:28:59] <MoreDakka> Oh yeah....followed it religiously. tried a fresh install of CentOS 4 and the first thing I did was a yum update, then reboot then follow those steps. Tried about 3 times now on fresh installs and it kicks me in the ass every time at the last part of step #2
[01-Oct-2007 22:29:36] <MoreDakka> Hmmm...maybe I'll try it without the yum update first.
[01-Oct-2007 22:30:42] <MoreDakka> however, it's hometime for me now. Thanks for your help today, I'll try without a yum update tomorrow and see if that helps at all...
[01-Oct-2007 22:31:48] <mutil8> try to install the dependencies again, and let me see the error messages
[01-Oct-2007 22:31:52] <mutil8> before you re-install
[01-Oct-2007 22:32:35] <MoreDakka> are you going to be on tomorrow?
[01-Oct-2007 22:38:18] <mutil8> should be
[01-Oct-2007 23:22:34] <exothermc_> How do you enter a network other than a /24 ?
[01-Oct-2007 23:29:07] <davetoo> You let zendisc learn it from the routers
[01-Oct-2007 23:29:22] <exothermc_> And that is the only way?
[01-Oct-2007 23:29:43] <davetoo> There's at least one bug open to fix manual network entry
[01-Oct-2007 23:30:02] <davetoo> but it doesn't look like they've fixed it yet
[01-Oct-2007 23:30:24] <exothermc_> Ya cause apparently 10.10.10.0/28 isn't a valid network ID.
[01-Oct-2007 23:30:41] <davetoo> Complains about characters illegal in URLs, right?
[01-Oct-2007 23:31:04] <exothermc_> ya
[01-Oct-2007 23:31:35] <davetoo> Search the trac ticket list
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:24] <davetoo> hmm
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:33] <davetoo> supposedly fixed in r6508
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:38] <davetoo> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/1899
[01-Oct-2007 23:32:45] <adytum-bot> Title: #1899 (Add network netblock greater than /24 broken) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[01-Oct-2007 23:33:40] <exothermc_> so what does that have to do with my example of a /28 ?
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[02-Oct-2007 00:13:18] <exothermc_> Where does zenoss store its data?
[02-Oct-2007 00:21:27] <davetoo> in a Zope object database
[02-Oct-2007 00:21:40] <davetoo> in $ZENHOME/var/Data.fs, basically
[02-Oct-2007 00:26:32] <exothermc_> Ok so is there anyway to modify this data directly when the interface is tripping all over itself?
[02-Oct-2007 00:27:44] <exothermc_> basically I would really like to get a different subnet setup other than a /24, as you can probably see, there are quite a few times when relying on the routers isn't going to work.
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:08] <davetoo> I seem to have succeeded in adding one with the ZMI, just now
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:14] <davetoo> but haven't tested
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:25] <davetoo> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Networks/manage
[02-Oct-2007 00:33:38] <davetoo> there's an IpNetwork class in the Add pulldown
[02-Oct-2007 00:54:46] <bkingx> Hi All!
[02-Oct-2007 00:56:57] <bkingx> Has anyone taken the VMWare image and installed it onto an ESX server?
[02-Oct-2007 01:03:23] <bkingx> Anyone?
[02-Oct-2007 04:10:47] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Code Monkey - 26 Sep, 07:04AM
[02-Oct-2007 04:10:48] <adytum-bot> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=154
[02-Oct-2007 07:49:29] <Freak> what process do I have to restart to make newly added icons visible?
[02-Oct-2007 07:49:41] <Freak> restarting all zenoss services works, too
[02-Oct-2007 07:49:48] <Freak> but that's a bit much
[02-Oct-2007 09:37:40] <Freak> why does zencommand run keep telling me "schedule has 0 commands"?
[02-Oct-2007 09:54:28] <Freak> "ERROR zen.Events: (1062, "Duplicate entry '0afd068335dc7aeaffffffe' for key 1")" <-?
[02-Oct-2007 09:54:39] <Freak> d'uh.
[02-Oct-2007 11:02:35] chairuou_work is now known as chairuou
[02-Oct-2007 11:17:00] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[02-Oct-2007 11:17:02] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[02-Oct-2007 11:19:45] <Freak> no. we be zombies and we wants your braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaainzzzzzzzz!
[02-Oct-2007 11:20:49] <imperfect-> Hehe
[02-Oct-2007 11:20:50] <imperfect->
[02-Oct-2007 11:20:58] <imperfect-> Well I'm looking at ZenOSS to monitor my network devices.
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:12] <imperfect-> I'm the WAN Engineer at a school district
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:28] <imperfect-> Just wondering what Kind of information i can get on my network devices...
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:37] <imperfect-> i.e. can I montior for threshholds?
[02-Oct-2007 11:21:49] <imperfect-> er monitor and be alerted etc?
[02-Oct-2007 11:22:04] <imperfect-> Or is this not something than can function so real time and is more of a data gathering deal?
[02-Oct-2007 11:29:30] <Freak> why does this command >> /usr/local/libexec/nagios/check_procs -w 0:$((`sysctl kern.maxproc|cut -c 14-`/2)) -c 0:$((`sysctl kern.maxproc|cut -c 14-`-(`sysctl kern.maxproc|cut -c 14-`/5))) << render all checks impossible?? (zencommand's statement "schedule has 0 commands")
[02-Oct-2007 11:30:20] <Freak> imperfect-: I dont understand the last part of your question, whats that 'data gathering deal' thing?
[02-Oct-2007 11:30:33] <imperfect-> Freak : Like a rrd based grapher
[02-Oct-2007 11:30:58] <Freak> well sure, zenoss is a monitoring application, including notifications and stuff
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:10] <Freak> actually its quite powerful
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:14] <imperfect-> Yeah
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:16] <Freak> but I also consider it a beast
[02-Oct-2007 11:31:35] <imperfect-> Well I need something that can notify me rather quickly if I have a link that is historically flipping out bandwidth wise
[02-Oct-2007 11:33:43] <Freak> thats just a question of your check i+nterval
[02-Oct-2007 11:33:46] <Freak> -+
[02-Oct-2007 11:35:22] <imperfect-> Well
[02-Oct-2007 11:35:26] <imperfect-> The other thing I really need
[02-Oct-2007 11:35:31] <imperfect-> is something to monitor syslog messages
[02-Oct-2007 11:36:08] <qubix> it can also do that
[02-Oct-2007 11:38:17] <imperfect-> Yeah but I'm guessing it requires making retardedly complex scripts to do so
[02-Oct-2007 11:48:55] <imperfect-> Hrm.
[02-Oct-2007 11:48:58] <imperfect-> This is odd
[02-Oct-2007 11:49:02] <imperfect-> I'm adding a test device
[02-Oct-2007 11:49:09] <imperfect-> And there doesnt' seem to be a place to enter the IP
[02-Oct-2007 11:55:32] <imperfect-> Wow.
[02-Oct-2007 11:55:36] <imperfect-> It just killed safari.
[02-Oct-2007 12:03:44] <imperfect-> Anyone around to answer a question?
[02-Oct-2007 12:34:25] <Freak> pablo26: i made a template for the four most reasonably used nrpe-over-ssh checks.. disk usage, load, procs and swap utilization.
[02-Oct-2007 12:34:39] <Freak> pablo26: ru still interested (iirc it was you who wanted that)
[02-Oct-2007 12:38:06] <Freak> I think zendisc should be renamed into zendisco.
[02-Oct-2007 12:51:56] <imperfect-> Anyone know why I can't add a x.x.x.x/22 entry when I add a network?
[02-Oct-2007 14:01:07] <bkingx> Howdy all!
[02-Oct-2007 14:01:37] <bkingx> Has anyone had any luck installing the Zenoss Appliance on an ESX 3.0 host?
[02-Oct-2007 14:06:02] <cluther> I wouldn't recommend it. The VMware image has very limited disk space. You'd be better off loading CentOS 5 onto your ESX host then installing the Zenoss RPM.
[02-Oct-2007 14:08:40] <bkingx> Thanks cluther. Good advice.
[02-Oct-2007 14:09:46] <bkingx> it would be nice if there was on preconfigured for an ESX 3.0 environment.
[02-Oct-2007 14:10:41] <bkingx> Our office has some free space on the ESX Server and thought this would be a great place to put the image.
[02-Oct-2007 14:25:31] <progma> having problems with zenoss daemons starting
[02-Oct-2007 14:25:35] <progma> turns out it can't talk to mysql
[02-Oct-2007 14:25:51] <progma> just want to see if you guys have seen this:
[02-Oct-2007 14:27:19] <progma> ERROR 1033 (HY000): Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'
[02-Oct-2007 14:31:33] <progma> indicates that there's something wrong w/ the mysql table, right?
[02-Oct-2007 14:34:58] <bkingx> I think .frm files are forms.
[02-Oct-2007 14:35:15] <bkingx> So possibly something wrong with the form that interfaces with the DB.
[02-Oct-2007 14:36:27] <progma> ? what would cause that?
[02-Oct-2007 14:36:36] <cluther> progma: That's definitely a problem with the status table in the events database.
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:00] <progma> cluther: thx for clarification
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:08] <cluther> progma: Hard crash or MySQL bug most likely.
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:15] <cluther> progma: Have you changed your my.cnf?
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:49] <MoreDakka> Good Morning all. cluther, did you find out a problem with the Cisco 871 on 2.090 after I sent those logs to you? (just curious....I'm trying to get 2.091 going but it's not liking me.)
[02-Oct-2007 14:38:58] <progma> nope, aug 21 last change
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:09] <cluther> MoreDakka: No.. the snmp responses seemed good. I was expecting to see missing or malformed netmasks..
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:33] <cluther> progma: hmm.. is it possible that someone changed the my.cnf on Aug 21 and the MySQL server wasn't restarted until now?
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:40] <MoreDakka> Well that sucks....hoping that could have found you the problem...
[02-Oct-2007 14:40:52] <cluther> progma: I'm harping on this issue because it's the only time I've ever seen that error happen on an InnoDB table.
[02-Oct-2007 14:45:22] <MoreDakka> This isn't a zenoss question but I'll ask it anyways and see if I can get an answer... Our Production box is running FC5, which CentOS is closer to that distro, 4 or 5?
[02-Oct-2007 14:45:47] <MoreDakka> I just don't have FC5 disks and thought I could get away with CentOS...maybe I'll d/l them today...
[02-Oct-2007 14:46:53] <progma> cluther: hmm the admin here says he did restart it last night
[02-Oct-2007 14:47:43] <progma> let me make sure zenoss can talk to mysql
[02-Oct-2007 14:48:42] <cluther> progma: This could be tricky. What probably happened that some of the InnoDB settings in my.cnf were changed, invalidating your tables. You need to figure out what the my.cnf used to look like and change it back.
[02-Oct-2007 14:49:11] <cluther> progma: If you want to change InnoDB settings, you have to dump the database, change the settings, then import it again.
[02-Oct-2007 14:50:47] <progma> they did do an upgrade from 2.0.4 -> 2.0.6
[02-Oct-2007 14:51:50] <progma> and last night was the first time they restarted mysqld
[02-Oct-2007 14:51:56] <progma> cluther: thanks for the infos
[02-Oct-2007 14:55:51] <Bulwinkle> heya cluther, how goes it?
[02-Oct-2007 14:58:02] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Good.. how're things?
[02-Oct-2007 15:01:46] <progma> cluther: up for checking out a pastebin of the zenhub log file ?
[02-Oct-2007 15:02:14] <cluther> progma: Couldn't hurt to paste it.
[02-Oct-2007 15:06:01] <progma> cluther: http://pastebin.ca/723107
[02-Oct-2007 15:06:08] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - progma - post number 723107 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 15:06:23] <progma> it's pretty redundant, stuck in a loop trying to talk to those .frm
[02-Oct-2007 15:07:37] <cluther> progma: Yeah.. it'll never work until you fix MySQL.
[02-Oct-2007 15:08:30] <progma> ok thanks
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:07] <imperfect-> dude
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:08] <imperfect-> wtf
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:32] <imperfect-> How the in living hell do I enter the network 167.217.96.0/22 into fscking zenos?!?!
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:40] <imperfect-> It keeps telling me it has an invalid character
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:55] <progma> ditto
[02-Oct-2007 15:11:59] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- when you figure it out, let me know
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:06] <imperfect-> This is the most retarded fucking thing ever
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:13] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- lol
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:32] <imperfect-> You'd think they would have solved this on something that is supposedly stable
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:32] <exothermc_> Ok so is there anyway to modify this data directly when the interface is tripping all over itself?
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:35] <imperfect-> You've got to be histting me
[02-Oct-2007 15:12:57] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- I'm not sure it supports anything but a /24
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:07] <imperfect-> Yeah
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:11] <imperfect-> that's completely fucking worthless
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:25] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- there has to be something we are missing
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:32] <imperfect-> I looked at the qucikstart guide
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:43] <imperfect-> it and TELLS you to use CIDR notation
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:47] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Just setup your routers correctly then model them and you are done.
[02-Oct-2007 15:13:59] <imperfect-> exothermc_ : Huh?
[02-Oct-2007 15:14:12] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ so let the routing tables take care of the network shaping?
[02-Oct-2007 15:14:19] <exothermc_> imperfect-: It will autodiscover you networks from your routers /22s /24/s /28s etc
[02-Oct-2007 15:14:22] <imperfect-> There's not even anywher to input a IP address on the damn ADD Device
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:17] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ what if you have two routers handling BGP, in a the instance of a circuit failure
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:25] <exothermc_> imperfect-: hmm well if you can't figure that much out.... back to the manual for you.
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:45] <imperfect-> exothermc_ : THERE IS NO FUCKING PLACE FOR AN IP ADDRESS ON THE ADD DEVICE PAGE
[02-Oct-2007 15:15:49] <imperfect-> exothermc_ : THIS IS NOT ME
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:01] <Trojaneyez> imperfect- calm down buddy
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:06] <exothermc_> imperfect-: yup I would stick to nice basic things with pictures.
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:16] <imperfect-> Name != IP
[02-Oct-2007 15:16:52] <exothermc_> Trojaneyez: shouldn't be an issue, our bgp routers were modeled correctly.
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:06] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ ok, i was curious about it, thanks
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:21] <creiht> imperfect-: If you put in the hostname it will look up the ip, and vise versa
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:49] <Bulwinkle> cluther: things are good...
[02-Oct-2007 15:17:54] <exothermc_> creiht: I'm sure he is adding it from the wrong location.
[02-Oct-2007 15:18:24] <imperfect-> creiht : Yeah that was what I just tried before he was telling me to look at pictures or some such shit
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:03] <progma> imperfect-: can you give me some advice while i curse like an ingrateful sailor at you?
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:14] <Trojaneyez> Has anyone in here ever use Zenoss with Canopy (Motorola) equipment?
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:25] <imperfect-> progma : Uhm. I didn't curse AT anyone in particular
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:38] <imperfect-> And I think ungrateful would be the better word.
[02-Oct-2007 15:19:59] <imperfect-> blah
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:02] <imperfect-> Apologies all around
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:09] <imperfect-> Me and Zenoss are not friends atm
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:37] <creiht> imperfect-: I think that you will find if you take a moment to learn the interface, things will make a lot more sense
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:37] <exothermc_> imperfect-: 1.) Classes -> Devices
[02-Oct-2007 15:20:50] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Then click drop down
[02-Oct-2007 15:21:19] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Manage -> Add device
[02-Oct-2007 15:21:24] <progma> imperfect-: you're right
[02-Oct-2007 15:22:13] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Put your router(s) in there and you are done.
[02-Oct-2007 15:24:07] <exothermc_> imperfect-: Well then you will need to go to your network tabs and select which networks you want to autodiscover devices on, but assuming you have snmp setup correctly on your routers then it should all be done.
[02-Oct-2007 15:24:58] <creiht> imperfect-: The other advantage of doing that way is that zenoss will set up dependencies that way
[02-Oct-2007 15:25:16] <exothermc_> my biggest beef with the system was on install I couldn't find the default password to first login.
[02-Oct-2007 15:25:42] <Trojaneyez> how beta is 2.1 atm?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:31] <exothermc_> Can anyone else find the default install password when installing on a RH 4/5 system?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:43] <Trojaneyez> default for zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:44] <exothermc_> From the either the install docs or the manual?
[02-Oct-2007 15:27:48] <exothermc_> ya
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:01] <Trojaneyez> admin
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:02] <Trojaneyez> zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:08] <exothermc_> like out of the box it comes with admin/zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:18] <exothermc_> but how is someone suppose to know that information.
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:37] <Trojaneyez> it's in the documentation
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:45] <exothermc_> page?
[02-Oct-2007 15:28:57] <Trojaneyez> 8 of 21 in the quickstartguide
[02-Oct-2007 15:29:56] <exothermc_> but if I'm not using the vmware image why would I be reading that?
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:34] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I found the quickstart guide for the centos RPM/Source install
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:36] <exothermc_> quickstart shouldn't contain information not found somewhere else, only a condensed version.
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:55] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I agree with you, not arguing that point. I just happen to run across it first time
[02-Oct-2007 15:30:55] <exothermc_> Just a beef I had.
[02-Oct-2007 15:31:14] <exothermc_> sourced from a 45 mins looking for that password
[02-Oct-2007 15:31:27] <Trojaneyez>
that's not good [02-Oct-2007 15:31:44] <kgoedtel> 45 minutes to find a password, wow
[02-Oct-2007 15:32:06] <exothermc_> ya I wasn't impressed, (with myself or the docs)
[02-Oct-2007 15:32:33] <kgoedtel> i agree the docs are a bit lacking, but it's not that hard to find the pass :]
[02-Oct-2007 15:33:38] <exothermc_> Does anyone know of a good way to edit the zope object database directly? like when the interface is tripping on itself?
[02-Oct-2007 15:34:24] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ how many people have moved from Nagios to Zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 15:34:36] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ sorry didn't mean tot point that towards you
[02-Oct-2007 15:38:17] <creiht> exothermc_: add /manage to whatever url you are looking at
[02-Oct-2007 15:39:22] <creiht> exothermc_: Though you shouldn't have to do that, I havn't had many problems of the interface tripping over it self
[02-Oct-2007 15:39:41] <creiht> note that I have not had a chance to install the beta yet though
[02-Oct-2007 15:43:37] <exothermc_> creiht: try to enter a network manually
[02-Oct-2007 15:45:07] <exothermc_> Trojaneyez: : I wouldn't move entirely away from nagios btw, it does have its place and does it very well.
[02-Oct-2007 15:46:12] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I have a full blown Nagios server plowing away at 8k devices, I am just looking at something that doesn't require so much custom perl scripting
[02-Oct-2007 15:48:04] <exothermc_> Well yes, I'm not saying don't use zenoss at the core, but depending on your setup, I wouldn't suggest ditching nagios completely.
[02-Oct-2007 15:48:31] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ because I haven't gotten very far into Zenoss, what would you say the prime differences are between the two?
[02-Oct-2007 15:50:05] <exothermc_> Well zenoss is setup to work off snmp from the core, and that makes life easier for changes etc.
[02-Oct-2007 15:50:41] <exothermc_> and honestly for me it was the web interface.
[02-Oct-2007 15:51:16] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I built a customer web interface for Nagios, casue I didn't like any of the options and some people think that you need something pretty to get work done or it's not a good product
[02-Oct-2007 15:51:28] <exothermc_> opennms has a similar approach, but you are still hand coding some xml files, but it does scale really well. Not sure how zenoss is going to scale yet.
[02-Oct-2007 15:52:10] <exothermc_> Ya nagios is great which is why you will see docs for all the nms's telling you how to interface with nagios
[02-Oct-2007 15:52:38] <exothermc_> zenoss+nagios, opennms+nagios etc. but you don't see much other combinations.
[02-Oct-2007 15:53:01] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I did look at oreon, but it was a bit cluttered
[02-Oct-2007 15:53:09] <exothermc_> bleh
[02-Oct-2007 15:53:10] <Trojaneyez> well oreon being the frontend of nagios
[02-Oct-2007 15:54:52] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I take it you looked at it also at one point?
[02-Oct-2007 15:55:30] <exothermc_> Yes I installed it and set it up, wasn't happy at all.
[02-Oct-2007 15:55:52] <Trojaneyez> exothermc_ I wrote an entire english walk through for it , submited it ,and called it a day with it
[02-Oct-2007 15:56:38] <exothermc_> lol
[02-Oct-2007 15:56:55] <Trojaneyez> i was tired of translating french.. my french is horrific
[02-Oct-2007 15:58:06] <mutil8> groundwork is a fairly easy nagios front end to use, but it's a bit 'sluggish'
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:04] <Trojaneyez> groundwork eh?
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:11] <mutil8> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:23] <mutil8> http://www.groundworkopensource.com/
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:30] <adytum-bot> Title: GroundWork Open Source IT Monitoring and Network Monitoring Solutions (at www.groundworkopensource.com)
[02-Oct-2007 15:59:43] <kgoedtel> i tried groundwork, hated it
[02-Oct-2007 16:00:22] <kgoedtel> the thing i hated the most is how it modified a bunch of stuff on the system
[02-Oct-2007 16:00:42] <kgoedtel> like it replaced syslog with syslog-ng
[02-Oct-2007 16:00:56] <kgoedtel> and tampered with cron
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:07] <Trojaneyez> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:11] <mutil8> yeah, wasn't my favorite solution, but if you just want easy to use, it was
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:13] <mutil8> err is
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:40] <kgoedtel> also, the installation looks self contained but it isn't really
[02-Oct-2007 16:01:49] <exothermc_> creiht: looking at /manage now.
[02-Oct-2007 16:02:00] <exothermc_> creiht: can't seem to find a way to modify the data
[02-Oct-2007 16:02:18] <exothermc_> creiht: nm found it.
[02-Oct-2007 16:18:46] <mutil8> i need a little help getting CPU monitoring going on windows machines. I've got SNMP working, and can see network traffic, free memory, paging, etc, but i get nothing for CPU
[02-Oct-2007 16:19:55] <creiht> mutil8: Windows does not expose that by default, you will need to either install snmpinformant or use the WMI module
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:11] <mutil8> yeah, i've got snmpinformant on the box
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:20] <mutil8> and it looks like it's an issue with the particular machine
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:34] <creiht> ahh
[02-Oct-2007 16:20:47] <mutil8> it was my first test machine, i just added a second, and it's working
[02-Oct-2007 16:21:11] <mutil8> i'm getting errors with zenwinmodeler, zenwin, and zeneventlog on this box that isn't displaying cpu usage
[02-Oct-2007 16:21:15] <mutil8> ERROR_HANDLE_EOF: Reached the end of the file. (38)
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:35] <MoreDakka> When I'm trying to do a zen2dump.py I get: http://pastebin.ca/723215
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:42] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 723215 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:46] <MoreDakka> Anyone shed some light on that?
[02-Oct-2007 16:46:59] <dschrock> does anyone know of a commandline flag I can pass to zenmodeler to remodel an entire class?
[02-Oct-2007 16:48:58] <MoreDakka> nvm...su'd to user zenoss and didn't create the globals properly.
[02-Oct-2007 16:52:30] <kgoedtel> dschrock: zenmodeler run -p /device/class ? i think that would work
[02-Oct-2007 16:53:09] <dschrock> nice, i'll give it a shot. thanks
[02-Oct-2007 17:09:16] <MoreDakka> Has anyone successfully imported data from a 1.x server to a 2.x server? I've tried http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/ many times and it doesn't work.
[02-Oct-2007 17:09:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Oct-2007 17:10:09] <MoreDakka> I keep getting http://pastebin.ca/723238
[02-Oct-2007 17:10:17] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 723238 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 17:14:37] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[02-Oct-2007 17:25:20] <eurowerke> hey everyone
[02-Oct-2007 17:25:30] <eurowerke> why doesn't the zenoss start/stop script start my zenperfxmlrpc?
[02-Oct-2007 17:26:06] <eurowerke> I'm beginning to think that some of these odd problems I've been having have been because I had a root password set in MySQL when I installed zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 17:26:49] <dschrock> which version? after 2.0.? zenperfxmlrpc isn't used anymore
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:05] <eurowerke> so how can I get it to stop notifying me that it isn't running?
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:15] <eurowerke> on the dashboard
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:46] <eurowerke> just wait for the next version? :-P
[02-Oct-2007 17:27:49] <dschrock> go to the event manager
[02-Oct-2007 17:28:14] <dschrock> select clear heart beats from the menu next to 'Edit'
[02-Oct-2007 17:28:14] <eurowerke> ok
[02-Oct-2007 17:28:30] <dschrock> iirc, that should do it
[02-Oct-2007 17:29:17] <eurowerke> yeah that clears it out but why does it alert in the first place? is there somewhere I can disable that?
[02-Oct-2007 17:29:36] <eurowerke> when I restart zenoss or reboot the server
[02-Oct-2007 17:31:13] <eurowerke> it also says that zenstatus isn't running but it is
[02-Oct-2007 17:34:55] <dschrock> i think the status is stored in a db, so it survives a reboot.
[02-Oct-2007 17:35:48] <dschrock> hrmm... what does 'zenoss status' show... i've seen this happen if 2 processes get started instead of 1...
[02-Oct-2007 17:36:50] <dschrock> you could try stopping zenstatus, then looking at the processes to see of there is another one there
[02-Oct-2007 17:37:51] <progma> i'm having this same problem: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/001577.html is there a resolution somewhere
[02-Oct-2007 17:38:17] <progma> zeneventlog doesn't stay on
[02-Oct-2007 17:55:54] <eurowerke> Daemon: zenstatus program running; pid=3445
[02-Oct-2007 17:57:40] <eurowerke> ps -axfu |grep zenstatus.py shows only one proc running
[02-Oct-2007 17:57:58] <dschrock> hrmm..
[02-Oct-2007 17:58:35] <kgoedtel> is there anything peculiar in the zenstatus log?
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:20] <eurowerke> not that I noticed...
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:23] <eurowerke> ah
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:24] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:29] <eurowerke> it suddenly disappeared
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:39] <eurowerke> first time it ever went away
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:55] <eurowerke> seemed to go away after I ran the ps axfu
[02-Oct-2007 17:59:56] <eurowerke> lol
[02-Oct-2007 18:00:23] <eurowerke> it will come back though... hrm
[02-Oct-2007 18:01:05] <eurowerke> the logs didn't seem to show anything weird yesterday when I checked it
[02-Oct-2007 18:01:12] <eurowerke> let me check again
[02-Oct-2007 18:07:34] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[02-Oct-2007 18:09:10] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[02-Oct-2007 18:09:38] <progma> i'll take a stab
[02-Oct-2007 18:18:56] <pablo27> were do i have to go to edit the default message? (emails)
[02-Oct-2007 18:41:37] <Trojaneyez> Will zenoss graph Cisco Bandwidth via SNMP?
[02-Oct-2007 18:42:06] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: yes
[02-Oct-2007 18:42:54] <Trojaneyez> Bulwinkle I must be midding it then
[02-Oct-2007 18:42:59] <Trojaneyez> missing *
[02-Oct-2007 18:44:30] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: have you added a device?
[02-Oct-2007 18:44:38] <Trojaneyez> yes
[02-Oct-2007 18:44:53] <Bulwinkle> click on the device then click the OS tab
[02-Oct-2007 18:45:45] <Trojaneyez> ok
[02-Oct-2007 18:45:52] <Trojaneyez> on OS tab
[02-Oct-2007 18:46:20] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: do you see your interfaces listed at the top?
[02-Oct-2007 18:46:41] <Trojaneyez> yes, and I just found it
[02-Oct-2007 18:46:59] <Trojaneyez> very cool, Is there a way to integrate that graph into the Perf tab?
[02-Oct-2007 18:48:33] <Bulwinkle> Trojaneyez: I've never looked in to it....
[02-Oct-2007 18:48:40] <Trojaneyez> Ok, thank you Bulwinkle
[02-Oct-2007 18:55:11] <mutil8> any of you happen to be using a sonicwall firewall?
[02-Oct-2007 18:55:34] <mutil8> i have snmp enabled on the device, but i still can't add it
[02-Oct-2007 18:55:41] <pablo27> i do mutil8
[02-Oct-2007 18:56:37] <pablo27> witch sonicOs versino do u have?
[02-Oct-2007 18:57:01] <mutil8> SonicOS Enhanced 3.2.3.0-6e
[02-Oct-2007 18:57:20] <mutil8> it's on a 2040pro device
[02-Oct-2007 18:59:00] <pablo27> ok, so u have to enable snmp un the config just to set de community is ok
[02-Oct-2007 18:59:34] <mutil8> yeahn, snmp is enabled
[02-Oct-2007 18:59:39] <mutil8> setup the community, setup the host
[02-Oct-2007 19:00:04] <pablo27> and here is the trick on networks\interfaces for each interface u have to choose wich administration protocols are enabled
[02-Oct-2007 19:00:19] <pablo27> so in the lan add snmp
[02-Oct-2007 19:00:55] <mutil8> hmmm
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:02] <mutil8> there we go
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:06] <mutil8> it wasn't enabled for the LAN
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:07] <mutil8> thanks
[02-Oct-2007 19:03:27] <pablo27> that took me 1 day
[02-Oct-2007 19:04:13] <mutil8> haha
[02-Oct-2007 19:04:22] <mutil8> i started messing with it yesterday
[02-Oct-2007 19:06:15] <mutil8> so now my next question is about adding the sonicwall MIB
[02-Oct-2007 19:06:21] <mutil8> i tried importing it, but it doesn't seem to work
[02-Oct-2007 19:07:13] <pablo27> i added some datapoints of current connections cpu ussage and mem usage u dont need more than that
[02-Oct-2007 19:08:58] <mutil8> can you point me in the right direction on finding these?
[02-Oct-2007 19:09:14] <pablo27> do u have the mib?
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:07] <mutil8> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:11] <mutil8> there's actually 3
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:43] <pablo27> i hav donwloaded a program to see them easily ireason i think its called
[02-Oct-2007 19:10:50] <pablo27> and them copy them manually
[02-Oct-2007 19:12:29] <mutil8> great, thanks, i'll look into that
[02-Oct-2007 19:19:00] <pablo27> anyone knows how to change the deefaul email message format?
[02-Oct-2007 19:22:04] <progma> anyone here admin the zenoss website
[02-Oct-2007 19:27:17] <MoreDakka> In 2.091 (I'm not sure if it should do this or not) on the dashboard on the portlet "device issues" it has some of the discovered devices that don't have any problems but are still listed there...is that normal?
[02-Oct-2007 19:27:50] <progma> pablo27: how do you mean
[02-Oct-2007 19:28:11] <progma> pablo27: the subjects and message bodies?
[02-Oct-2007 19:30:46] <kgoedtel> i think he wants to know how to change the default template not anything particular to a user
[02-Oct-2007 19:31:01] <kgoedtel> since that is easy to do and straightforward
[02-Oct-2007 19:31:59] <lytrean> Hi everyone. I have a situation where I need to have an event auto-acknolwedge itself after a certain amount of time. Is this easy/possible in zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 19:36:39] <kgoedtel> pablo27: i think what you are looking for is found in $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/ActionRule.py
[02-Oct-2007 19:37:42] <eurowerke> Dakka: my zenstatus said it had an issue
[02-Oct-2007 19:37:53] <eurowerke> and it was listed under Device Issued portlet but it was running
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:03] <eurowerke> suddenly it just went away today
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:06] <eurowerke> I have no idea what I did
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:21] <eurowerke> I ran ps axfu to check to be sure there weren't 2 daemons running
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:29] <eurowerke> and ran zenoss status and suddenly it was gone
[02-Oct-2007 19:38:49] <eurowerke> i think it may return if I reboot though
[02-Oct-2007 19:39:59] <dschrock> eurowerke : most likely, clearing the heartbeats took care of it...
[02-Oct-2007 19:40:34] <dschrock> its takes a few for everything catch up, so it lingered in zenoss issues until everything cleared out
[02-Oct-2007 19:41:28] <pablo27> <progma> pablo27: the subjects and message bodies? yes
[02-Oct-2007 19:42:43] <kgoedtel> pablo27: on a per user basis or by default?
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:11] <pablo27> by default to all users, later maybe i need to change to someone specific
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:29] <kgoedtel> you cant do it in the ui because it is hardcoded in the python
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:32] <eurowerke> i had cleared those out before
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:35] <eurowerke> but it would always return
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:38] <eurowerke> i would clear
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:41] <eurowerke> stop zenoss, and reboot
[02-Oct-2007 19:43:44] <eurowerke> and it would be back
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:02] <lytrean> can zenoss set some kind of decay number on the severity of an event? so if the event isn't repeated over time it lowers it's severity until it is cleared?
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:20] <eurowerke> lol wow complicated features
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:20] <eurowerke> hehe
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:27] <kgoedtel> lytrean: why would you want to do that?
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:28] <eurowerke> that's why I'm having such trouble getting stuff to work!
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:33] <eurowerke> one of these days
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:39] <eurowerke> I'm going to install an SNMP agent on my toaster
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:42] <eurowerke> and monitor it with Zenoss
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:50] <eurowerke> ^_%
[02-Oct-2007 19:44:54] <eurowerke> ^_^ *
[02-Oct-2007 19:45:07] <lytrean> kgoedtel: i need an event to auto-clear itself after a certain amount of time.
[02-Oct-2007 19:45:33] <lytrean> kgoedtel: if the error hasn't repeated
[02-Oct-2007 19:45:41] <kgoedtel> lytrean: why not just set the critical threshold higher?
[02-Oct-2007 19:46:53] <kgoedtel> also, events already 'auto clear' if the problem does not continue to persist
[02-Oct-2007 19:47:23] <kgoedtel> otherwise if it persists then your only option is to acnowledge it
[02-Oct-2007 19:47:25] <lytrean> kgoedtel: really? i thought a manual clear/acknowledge was required or it would always just sit there.
[02-Oct-2007 19:47:54] <kgoedtel> give me an example, i have never witnessed such behavior
[02-Oct-2007 19:48:34] <Trojaneyez> I work for an ISP and when modeling a Cisco 7206VXR it always times out, I moved it out to 1000 seconds, and still is timing out. It is the Gateway for our customers. I can manually poll it using snmpwalk and it seems to go for ever. Any suggestions?
[02-Oct-2007 19:48:38] <kgoedtel> events go to history if they do not persist
[02-Oct-2007 19:49:05] <kgoedtel> you can manually move them to history, but if it is a peristent problem it will reappear
[02-Oct-2007 19:49:58] <kgoedtel> Trojaneyez: are you sure it is using the proper version in zenoss? (v1 v2c)
[02-Oct-2007 19:50:20] <Trojaneyez> v2c si what i'm using and it responds properly on CLI
[02-Oct-2007 19:50:26] <lytrean> kgoedtel: the problem is that it isn't something like cpu monitoring. it's an alert that was submitted from a standalone application via a rest call. so the application itself never says "hey i'm fine now" so the event sits in the "new" unacknowledged state
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:12] <kgoedtel> lytrean: it seems to me that you would be better of making the program understand what an OK status is
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:39] <lytrean> yeah, i agree. but my manager doesn't heh
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:47] <kgoedtel> laziness++
[02-Oct-2007 19:51:49] <kgoedtel> :]
[02-Oct-2007 20:05:04] <sleske> hi
[02-Oct-2007 20:09:27] <kgoedtel> alo
[02-Oct-2007 20:11:04] <sleske> ah, someone else
[02-Oct-2007 20:11:17] <sleske> do you use process monitoring in Zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 20:14:30] <kgoedtel> nope
[02-Oct-2007 20:14:52] <kgoedtel> but i know some things about it
[02-Oct-2007 20:21:10] <sleske> sorry, was away
[02-Oct-2007 20:21:13] <sleske> ah, ok
[02-Oct-2007 20:21:25] <sleske> well, we use it, but it sometimes loses processes
[02-Oct-2007 20:26:38] <MoreDakka> Hey
[02-Oct-2007 20:26:39] <MoreDakka> In 2.091 (I'm not sure if it should do this or not) on the dashboard on the portlet "device issues" it has some of the discovered devices that don't have any problems but are still listed there...is that normal?
[02-Oct-2007 20:27:16] <mutil8> MoreDakka: does that for me as well
[02-Oct-2007 20:27:37] <MoreDakka> Ah...probably what it's suppost to do....doesn't make sense...but oh well.
[02-Oct-2007 20:27:45] <sleske> I don't use the beta, sorry...
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:23] <mutil8> yeah, im loading up 2.0.6 vm right now
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:33] <mutil8> i'm having strange issues with the beta release
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:40] <MoreDakka> to see if it does it in there as well?
[02-Oct-2007 20:28:55] <MoreDakka> like what?
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:11] <mutil8> well, i can't add users
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:24] <mutil8> and if i click on preferences, i get an error
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:31] <mutil8> device auto discovery doesn't work
[02-Oct-2007 20:29:58] <MoreDakka> Hmmm....what OS?
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:12] <MoreDakka> I just added a user and the auto-discovery worked for me earlier.
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:17] <MoreDakka> I'm on CentOS5
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:37] <mutil8> debian
[02-Oct-2007 20:30:49] <MoreDakka> ... I ?? then :-/
[02-Oct-2007 20:31:24] <mutil8> Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor
[02-Oct-2007 20:31:26] <mutil8> i get that error
[02-Oct-2007 20:31:39] <MoreDakka> Yeah a few people have been getting that error.
[02-Oct-2007 20:32:07] <MoreDakka> I get some ugly errors when trying to model a cisco 871.
[02-Oct-2007 20:32:15] <MoreDakka> everything else that I've tried models no problem.
[02-Oct-2007 20:33:41] <kgoedtel> ugly errors? like bad oids?
[02-Oct-2007 20:35:48] <tolland> Hi Chaps
[02-Oct-2007 20:36:26] <mutil8> howdy
[02-Oct-2007 20:36:40] <MoreDakka> Not bad OIDs...hold on I'll get it for you ;-)
[02-Oct-2007 20:37:56] <tolland> I am having trouble getting the src rpm to build on x86_64 rhel 4
[02-Oct-2007 20:38:54] <MoreDakka> Joyyyy -> http://pastebin.ca/723491
[02-Oct-2007 20:39:04] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 723491 (at pastebin.ca)
[02-Oct-2007 20:43:52] <iamiam> hello
[02-Oct-2007 20:44:42] <sleske> tolland: what happens if you try to build?
[02-Oct-2007 20:49:23] <tolland_> sorry - got disconnected - did I miss anything..
[02-Oct-2007 20:49:49] <lytrean> nope
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:29] <MoreDakka> [14:45] <sleske> tolland: what happens if you try to build?
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:33] <MoreDakka> middrf yhsy
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:36] <MoreDakka> that
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:45] <MoreDakka> wow...tired.
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:47] <lytrean> oops. missed that. sorry toll
[02-Oct-2007 20:50:48] <MoreDakka> missed that
[02-Oct-2007 20:51:24] <lytrean> so, there's a setting under Management->Event Manager for Event aging... can anyone explain how that works? can it be configured per event class?
[02-Oct-2007 20:51:35] <sleske> tolland: what happens if you try to build?
[02-Oct-2007 20:51:59] <tolland_> with the current MySQL packages it fails due to dependency requirements...
[02-Oct-2007 20:52:10] <MoreDakka> Yeah I gave up on that.
[02-Oct-2007 20:52:23] <MoreDakka> Asks for like libsomething.14 right?
[02-Oct-2007 20:52:32] <tolland_> so I looked at the spec file and I can see that I can change the server-standard and cleint-standard to community
[02-Oct-2007 20:53:22] <tolland_> however it is requiring the MySQL-shared-community
[02-Oct-2007 20:53:41] <tolland_> but I have the MySQL-shared-compat installed, which is required by php-myqsl
[02-Oct-2007 20:54:33] <tolland_> and trying to install both won't work
[02-Oct-2007 20:55:03] <tolland_> if I force it to use require the MySQL-shared-compat, the build fails...
[02-Oct-2007 20:55:28] <tolland_> which is not surprising I guess, but I thought that package had all the required libs in it..?
[02-Oct-2007 20:56:53] <sleske> tolland: hm, sounds tricky, lemme think
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:17] <mutil8> you need to enable the repo
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:33] <tolland_> hmm. according to MySQL docs, if you have MySQL-shared-compat you should not install MySQL-shared-community
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:33] <mutil8> and then install with yum
[02-Oct-2007 20:57:58] <tolland_> however, I need MySQL-shared-compat, and zenoss needs MySQL-shared-community
[02-Oct-2007 20:58:01] <mutil8> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=24&topic_id=4969&viewmode=flat
[02-Oct-2007 20:58:16] <adytum-bot> Title: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 4 - Server Support - Howto Upgrade MySQL 4.1 to 5.0 on CentOS 4 server (at www.centos.org)
[02-Oct-2007 20:59:22] <tolland_> is that to force php-mysql to use the new libs?
[02-Oct-2007 20:59:48] <sleske> tolland: Why do you need php-myqsl? Is that required by the spec file?
[02-Oct-2007 20:59:49] <tolland_> I already run MySQL 5.0.41, I just need the old libs that are in the shared-compat lib
[02-Oct-2007 21:00:03] <tolland_> its required by other applications on the box
[02-Oct-2007 21:01:32] <sleske> tolland: I see.
[02-Oct-2007 21:04:59] <sleske> tolland: in principle you should be able to install MySQL-shared-community _and_ MySQL-shared-compat. They are for different versions of MySQL, after all. What happens if you try it?
[02-Oct-2007 21:06:21] <sleske> is anyone using process monitoring on linux systems, and experiencing spurious "process not running" from time to time?
[02-Oct-2007 21:06:45] <tolland_> no, it says on MySQL site to not install both
[02-Oct-2007 21:06:49] <sleske> I tried to track this down, and it seems to be a problem in net-snmp, but I'm not sure.
[02-Oct-2007 21:07:25] <sleske> tolland: Well, as far as i understand, you need MySQL-shared-community for MySQL 5.x, and MySQL-shared-compat for MySQL 4.x.
[02-Oct-2007 21:07:43] <tolland_> MySQL shared compat has the 5.0.x libs in as well
[02-Oct-2007 21:07:53] <tolland_> ...
[02-Oct-2007 21:08:03] <sleske> tolland: OK, didn't know that
[02-Oct-2007 21:08:55] <sleske> tolland: well, that almost sounds as if the RPM dependencies are simply incompatible...
[02-Oct-2007 21:09:16] <sleske> tolland: at any rate, you can always take the mysql dep out of the rpm spec for zenoss.
[02-Oct-2007 21:09:44] <sleske> Then install MySQL-shared-community locally (not from RPM), and tell the rpm build where to find it. That should work.
[02-Oct-2007 21:09:53] <sleske> tolland: Details up to you :-/
[02-Oct-2007 21:10:55] <tolland_> cool, thanks for the info so far
[02-Oct-2007 21:11:35] <tolland_> heres a link with the info about compat and community versions;
[02-Oct-2007 21:11:37] <tolland_> http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:hSeCRq88s1cJ:dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/linux-rpm.html+MySQL-shared-community+MySQL-shared-compat&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk
[02-Oct-2007 21:11:44] <tolland_> FYI
[02-Oct-2007 21:16:48] <MoreDakka> In v2.091 can the font in the portlets be made smaller? The size 16 font it is right now is big and doesn't need to take up that much space (the systems inside the portlet is what I'm talking about).
[02-Oct-2007 21:17:21] <sleske> tolland: Thanks. Ok, so afaik it seems MySQL-shared-compat is a superset of MySQL-shared. So MySQL-shared-compat should be enough...
[02-Oct-2007 21:18:00] <sleske> tolland: ... but then I don't know why the build fails. Sorry, can't really help any more.
[02-Oct-2007 21:20:21] <Ron_Superior> hi all. does anyone happen to know where I can get the Zenoss API Docs? There is a link to a zip file on zenoss.com, but the file there seems to be corrupt.
[02-Oct-2007 21:25:07] <sleske> Ron_Superior: Look at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs , "Zenoss API Docs". works for me
[02-Oct-2007 21:25:15] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Documentation - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Oct-2007 21:27:00] <Ron_Superior> sleske: thanks, though that's the file that doesn't unzip for me. weird. i'll try it on windows i guess.
[02-Oct-2007 21:27:19] <mutil8> Ron_Superior: if you need, i'll put it up on a spot for you
[02-Oct-2007 21:27:35] <sleske> Ron: OK, now I see. Download works, but file seems corrupt (probably truncated, as i can extract the first file).
[02-Oct-2007 21:28:13] <sleske> At any rate, it says it's autogenerated from the sources, so you can just grab the sources and read the comments (you'll need them anyway, probably).
[02-Oct-2007 21:28:15] <mutil8> same
[02-Oct-2007 21:29:20] <Ron_Superior> ah ok. thanks all.
[02-Oct-2007 21:31:18] <sleske> When I use process monitoring, sometimes the events "process not running" will not clear, even though the process is back.
[02-Oct-2007 21:31:26] <sleske> Anyone experiencing that?
[02-Oct-2007 21:32:04] <sleske> The process is back, and is being picked up by Zenoss (I can see that in zenprocess.log), but the event doesn't clear.
[02-Oct-2007 21:32:20] <sleske> If I clear the event by hand, everything's OK (the event doesn't come back).
[02-Oct-2007 21:35:42] <sleske> Couldn't find anything in the bug db either
[02-Oct-2007 21:40:51] <dschrock> anyone have any insight on removing a threshold? I removed it from the template. TRied the PushConfig option, restarted zenperfsnmp. none seem to work. This is in 2.0.91-beta
[02-Oct-2007 21:41:30] <dschrock> i keep getting alerted
[02-Oct-2007 21:42:14] <kgoedtel> i would check for errors in your zenactions log
[02-Oct-2007 21:42:32] <kgoedtel> something similar happened to me
[02-Oct-2007 21:44:06] <dschrock> hrmm... nothing... all INFO
[02-Oct-2007 21:44:57] <eurowerke> I really like Zenoss but all these little problems make me feel like it really ISN'T ready to be used for a production system
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:08] <kgoedtel> well he is using the 'beta' :]
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:14] <eurowerke> I'm not
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:24] <eurowerke> and the problems I get still irk me a little too much for comfort
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:26] <kgoedtel> i have 2.0.6 and dont have any problems
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:46] <eurowerke> they REALLY need to get MUCH more documentation
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:55] <mutil8> im in the middle of a 2.0.6 install to see if it fixes some of my issues with the beta release
[02-Oct-2007 21:45:58] <dschrock> agree on Documentation...
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:07] <eurowerke> so much spotty stuff
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:12] <mutil8> any of you using the enterprise edition?
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:19] <kgoedtel> i agree but at the same time, i have learned a lot more because of the fact i wasn't being spoon fed instructions
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:27] <eurowerke> it's like the docs are based off of what a flawless installation should act like
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:33] <eurowerke> and there's no troubleshooting help
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:35] <eurowerke> poo
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:50] <kgoedtel> well, it is free..
[02-Oct-2007 21:46:57] <eurowerke> I the type who needs to know how everything works before I can figure stuff out well enought to make it functional
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:02] <eurowerke> I know.. :-p
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:11] <eurowerke> I'm just being a nitpick
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:23] <eurowerke> but I do feel a little uneasy about some of these problems
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:29] <eurowerke> like they could come up again at any moment
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:35] <kgoedtel> im the type of person who would rather not know how things work beforehand so i can figure it out myself heh
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:39] <dschrock> mutil8 : no, we are trying to see how much functionality we can get out of the community version first...
[02-Oct-2007 21:47:49] <eurowerke> I'm sure for an high end user monitoring a huge network that would surely detract from the desire to use it
[02-Oct-2007 21:48:08] <mutil8> dschrock: same here, just wonder what the differences were
[02-Oct-2007 21:49:15] <dschrock> mutil8 : there is supposed to be the ability to link different instances together, so each instance can see and act on the other- ie: monitor in Miami connected to a Monitor in SF
[02-Oct-2007 21:50:04] <dschrock> the community version can supposedly do it as well, but one instance is the master, and the rest just poll and send the results
[02-Oct-2007 21:50:56] <sleske> eurowerke: We have similar problems. Most things work most of the time, but when something doesn't, it's a lot of work.
[02-Oct-2007 21:51:11] <dschrock> it is what we are eventually looking to do... we are a national isp so I want to throw a zenoss box in each market and have it report back to a master
[02-Oct-2007 21:51:20] <sleske> We keep intermittently losing monitored processes... which aren't really gone.
[02-Oct-2007 21:51:50] <dschrock> sleske : is it trying to monitor based on pid?
[02-Oct-2007 21:52:01] <dschrock> i haven't touoched process monitoring
[02-Oct-2007 21:52:22] <sleske> And the troubleshooting docs are really practically non-existant. Fortunately the source is available...
[02-Oct-2007 21:52:57] <sleske> dschrock: No, Zenoss monitors by matching process name (and params) against a regexp. But that's not the problem.
[02-Oct-2007 21:53:26] <sleske> dschrock: The proc list is retrieved via SNMP, and that list is apparently incomplete sometimes -> spurious alert
[02-Oct-2007 21:53:36] <dschrock> gah... how fun
[02-Oct-2007 21:55:17] <sleske> dschrock: Yeah. I spent like two days debugging it (and generated a few GB of logs), since I cannot systematically reproduce it... just happens once a day or so.
[02-Oct-2007 21:55:30] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[02-Oct-2007 21:55:39] <sleske> dschrock: But it appears to be a bug in net-nsmp (i.e. on the monitored system)...
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:07] <eurowerke> sleske: that's exactly the sort of thing I mean
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:30] <eurowerke> that would NOT work for an enterprise level user, I think
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:41] <eurowerke> at least for me
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:42] <eurowerke> hehe
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:50] <sleske> eurowerke: Ack. Note, however that in this case I tracked it down as a bug in net-snmp, not in Zenoss (I believe...)
[02-Oct-2007 21:57:55] <eurowerke> what was that problem back in 1.2 I think
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:01] <eurowerke> with a dropout in the graphs like every 8 hours?
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:07] <eurowerke> I can't remember what the reason was for it
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:21] <sleske> eurowerke: Can't remember that one either.
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:24] <eurowerke> that's good
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:28] <eurowerke> does that sound familiar though?
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:40] <eurowerke> I didn't dream that problem up did I?
[02-Oct-2007 21:58:41] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:00] <sleske> eurowerke: There was, however, also a bug in proc monitoring in Zenoss itself. I know, because I debugged it personally :-(. But after submitting, it was fixed within 12 hours.
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:05] <eurowerke> I just remember coming across it somewhere on the zenoss docs area
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:32] <sleske> eurowerke: Can't remember holes in my graphs. But maybe we were just lucky.
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:46] <eurowerke> i think Zenoss is starting to get so big
[02-Oct-2007 21:59:53] <eurowerke> of course I don't know for sure
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:08] <eurowerke> but it seems they only have those 10 or 12 guys working on it
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:27] <eurowerke> with a few more here and there for support and training courses
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:35] <eurowerke> I'd love to take that training course
[02-Oct-2007 22:00:46] <eurowerke> but $2k is a bit hard to swallow for only 2 days
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:15] <sleske> eurowerke: Yes, I don't think they're very big. The rely on the OSS community :-).
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:23] <dschrock> have a good one guys
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:26] <dschrock> i'm out
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:31] <eurowerke> see ya shcrock
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:34] <eurowerke> lol
[02-Oct-2007 22:01:39] <eurowerke> spelled it wrong anyway ^_^
[02-Oct-2007 22:02:43] <sleske> eurowerke: Yes, 1k$/day is a bit steep. But I think 500-800$ is not unusual, so it's not outrageous.
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:01] <eurowerke> yeah I know
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:09] <eurowerke> if it was $1500 I think it would be pretty worth it
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:16] <eurowerke> that extra $500 is a little too much
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:18] <eurowerke> or if it was 3 days
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:21] <eurowerke> that'd be a great deal
[02-Oct-2007 22:03:35] <sleske> eurowerke: You could just ask. Maybe they are willing to compromise...
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:02] <eurowerke> heyyyy
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:07] <eurowerke> maybe you can help me here
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:18] <eurowerke> for some reason
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:23] <eurowerke> when I try to IRC from my local client
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:27] <eurowerke> I can join the network
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:31] <eurowerke> but I can't join the channel
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:39] <eurowerke> or any channel for that matter
[02-Oct-2007 22:04:48] <eurowerke> i have to ssh to another box and get in from there
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:04] <sleske> eurowerke: Hm, don't know much about irc...
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:28] <sleske> Anyway: What client do you use? What does "I can't join the channel" mean? What happens?
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:36] <eurowerke> it really seemed to be a firewall problem, but the fact that I could connect and get the MOTD quickly made that doubtful
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:40] <eurowerke> i was using mIRC
[02-Oct-2007 22:05:50] <eurowerke> right now I'm using epic on a remote host
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:01] <mutil8> if you can connect to the server, it's not a firewall issue
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:08] <eurowerke> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:14] <eurowerke> it almost seems like one way
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:24] <eurowerke> like the server won't take my input
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:40] <eurowerke> it does lag a tiny bit in notifying me about identifying my nick
[02-Oct-2007 22:08:59] <eurowerke> and when I do, it sometimes won't respond, it will just sit there
[02-Oct-2007 22:09:20] <eurowerke> other times I can send it fine, but as soon as I try to join the chan, it won't work
[02-Oct-2007 22:09:25] <eurowerke> that is what happens most of the time
[02-Oct-2007 22:09:46] <eurowerke> i even tried to use an IP address outside of the firewall to be SURE it wasn't the firewall, and I had same prob
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:08] <eurowerke> so maybe ISP? or freenode somehow has my IP blacklisted or something weird like that?
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:12] <eurowerke> bleh
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:13] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:39] <sleske> eurowerke: Sound very unusual at any rate.
[02-Oct-2007 22:10:53] <sleske> eurowerke: Have you considered desperate measures? Like tcpdump?
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:26] <mutil8> can you connect to other irc networks?
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:30] <mutil8> like irc.efnet.org
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:33] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:42] <eurowerke> heh sleske, I actually did run tcpdump
[02-Oct-2007 22:11:57] <eurowerke> but the output was so noisy I'd have to get ethereal or something to analyze it
[02-Oct-2007 22:12:05] <eurowerke> and didn't have the time to do that
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:11] <eurowerke> one thing of note, though
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:17] <eurowerke> is that my forward and reverse DNS don't match
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:19] <mutil8> mIRC is terrible anyways
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:22] <mutil8> use irssi
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:25] <eurowerke> yeah I never liked it
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:37] <eurowerke> I can't even used bitchx from the server I have zenoss running on
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:44] <eurowerke> that's where I first discovered the prob
[02-Oct-2007 22:13:47] <eurowerke> was trying to use bitchx
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:07] <sleske> eurowerke: dns and rdns not matching is very ugly and bound to cause problems...
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:34] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:38] <mutil8> yep
[02-Oct-2007 22:14:39] <eurowerke> I can join channel on efnet
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:09] <mutil8> they probably don't check the dns issue
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:11] <mutil8> i bet that's it
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:44] <eurowerke> i figure something on freenode is preventing me from connecting fully, so that might be it
[02-Oct-2007 22:15:54] <eurowerke> i have gotten through like 2 times before hehe
[02-Oct-2007 22:16:07] <eurowerke> but I end up getting disconnected a while later
[02-Oct-2007 22:21:14] <sleske> eurowerke: What other prolems did you face with Zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 22:21:22] <sleske> Just so I'm forewarned...
[02-Oct-2007 22:22:16] <eurowerke> odd little stuff that just bugged me
[02-Oct-2007 22:22:17] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:26] <sleske> Such as?
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:31] <eurowerke> I think that, like I had mentioned earlier, that some of the probs were caused by installing upgrades with a password for root
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:40] <eurowerke> root in mysql
[02-Oct-2007 22:23:55] <eurowerke> the first time I installed zenoss, it was 1.2
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:02] <eurowerke> and I followed the directions pretty well I guess
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:08] <eurowerke> I don't remember having odd issues like this
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:38] <eurowerke> those install docs aren't very thorough
[02-Oct-2007 22:24:42] <eurowerke> which just irritates me
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:03] <sleske> yes, the docs need work
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:07] <eurowerke> I might try to reinstall again, but some of the methods just don't seem to work so I have to do things I found that worked
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:30] <sleske> I just installed the rpms on RHEL 4. No problems....
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:47] <eurowerke> eah I'm using ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:25:57] <eurowerke> so can't do that
[02-Oct-2007 22:26:07] <sleske> eurowerke: Well, that _is_ an unsupported OS...
[02-Oct-2007 22:26:44] <sleske> eurowerke: Zenoss uses many helpers (rrdtool, MySQL, various libs...)
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:02] <mutil8> eurowerke: i just did a fresh install on debian etch of 2.0.6
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:16] <sleske> So it's likely that integration issues will bite you if you do stuff your own way.. sad though
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:30] <mutil8> you shouldn't have problems with ubuntu if it works in debian
[02-Oct-2007 22:27:35] <sleske> mutil8: How? Are there debs somewhere?
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:03] <eurowerke> like that note about setuid zensocket after install
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:17] <mutil8> install from source
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:28] <eurowerke> install complains about zensocket needing privs or something
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:41] <eurowerke> but zensocket isn't even built yet
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:43] <eurowerke> arrgh
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:43] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:46] <mutil8> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:28:48] <mutil8> i can fix that
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:02] <mutil8> chown root.root $ZENHOME/bin/zensocket
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:12] <mutil8> chmod 4755 $ZENHOME/bin/zensocket
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:14] <Dan000892> hah, i think it's awesome how you're complaining about the docs not helping you resolve issues you're having that you wouldn't have had had you followed the docs
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:19] <mutil8> /etc/init.d/zenoss restart
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:20] <eurowerke> hahah
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:29] <mutil8> that'll fix your problem
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:32] <eurowerke> heh mutil it wasn't like that
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:34] <eurowerke> I followed the docs
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:40] <eurowerke> but a lot of the steps just wouldn't work
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:45] <Dan000892> debian?
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:48] <eurowerke> ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:48] <mutil8> dude
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:53] <Dan000892> same diff
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:58] <mutil8> install etch, you'll be adding devices in an hour
[02-Oct-2007 22:29:58] <eurowerke> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:01] <mutil8> and yeah.. same diff
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:03] <Dan000892> (i.e. != RHEL/CentOS)
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:10] <eurowerke> i know Dan
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:11] <sleske> Debian rules anyway :-).
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:13] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:30:26] <mutil8> eurowerke: if you want some help, i'll help you get it going on ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:05] <Dan000892> i've always used Debian (and Ubuntu a little) - but now I work at a CentOS shop
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:26] <eurowerke> i use Debian myself
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:27] <Dan000892> ya know, you're right about the docs
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:32] <eurowerke> but at work here I used ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:32] <Dan000892> but the information is out there
[02-Oct-2007 22:31:42] <sleske> Dan: Welcome to the club :-). Debian at home, RHEL at work.
[02-Oct-2007 22:32:21] <mutil8> so eurowerke where are you stuck on your install?
[02-Oct-2007 22:32:24] <eurowerke> there was something odd about the zensocket thing during installing on ubuntu, a catch 22
[02-Oct-2007 22:32:25] <Dan000892> most of the work getting zenoss up was with help from forum archives and a _lot_ of reading on SNMP
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:08] <eurowerke> i ended up setuid on /bin/ld so that zensocket could compile
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:20] <mutil8> what release of ubuntu are you trying to use? and what release of zenoss?
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:23] <eurowerke> then changed it back
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:28] <mutil8> i'll set it up and see if there are any quirks
[02-Oct-2007 22:33:42] <eurowerke> 2.06 zenoss, ubuntu feisty I think
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:03] <mutil8> k, let me see if i have a feisty iso
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:19] <sleske> eurowerke: Hm, I seem to have avoided loads of trouble by using RHEL 4. ;-)
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:24] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:32] <eurowerke> but that's not free is it?
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:38] <Dan000892> ditto sleske
[02-Oct-2007 22:34:45] <Dan000892> CENTos my friend
[02-Oct-2007 22:35:33] <Dan000892> centos is rhel with every reference to "Red Hat" removed
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:04] <Dan000892> kind of like the old Xxx Xxx Linux distribution around RH6 or 7.
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:14] <mutil8> ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:21] <mutil8> that close enough to what you're trying to use?
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:27] <mutil8> or should i grab a different iso?
[02-Oct-2007 22:36:37] <eurowerke> yea
[02-Oct-2007 22:37:05] <sleske> eurowerke: No, RHEL is not free, but CenOS is.
[02-Oct-2007 22:37:16] <eurowerke> if the kernel is 2.6.17-10 then feisty is it
[02-Oct-2007 22:37:22] <mutil8> ok
[02-Oct-2007 22:38:10] <mutil8> it'll take me a few minutes to get this installed, i don't have a ubuntu VM template yet
[02-Oct-2007 22:38:47] <mutil8> did you update after the install?
[02-Oct-2007 22:56:29] <sleske> ok , time to go
[02-Oct-2007 22:56:31] <sleske> bye!
[02-Oct-2007 22:59:30] <mutil8> eurowerke: should be done in about 20-30 minutes
[02-Oct-2007 23:08:23] <eurowerke> sounds good mutil
[02-Oct-2007 23:08:40] <eurowerke> I have updated yeah
[02-Oct-2007 23:08:52] <eurowerke> don't know if the kernel had been updated though
[02-Oct-2007 23:09:01] <eurowerke> mainly just other utils
[02-Oct-2007 23:09:06] <eurowerke> but I could be wrong
[02-Oct-2007 23:09:40] <mutil8> ok
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:17] <eurowerke> nope no kernel image debsin the archive dir
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:35] <eurowerke> ls
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:36] <eurowerke> oops
[02-Oct-2007 23:10:37] <eurowerke> haha
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:06] <eurowerke> whew I should flush this archive
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:07] <eurowerke> yikes
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:22] <eurowerke> eh not that bad I guess
[02-Oct-2007 23:11:26] <eurowerke> a lot of pkgs but only 200MB
[02-Oct-2007 23:12:20] <mutil8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/installing-zenoss-on-debian-sarge/
[02-Oct-2007 23:12:26] <mutil8> that what you followed?
[02-Oct-2007 23:12:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Installing Zenoss on Debian (Sarge) - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:02] <eurowerke> hrm
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:04] <eurowerke> nope
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:21] <mutil8> there's a few changes that need to be made to that, but that's what i used for my debian installs
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:28] <mutil8> and what im using for this ubuntu install
[02-Oct-2007 23:13:50] <mutil8> it's building for source right now
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:07] <mutil8> i didn't use svn though, i just grabbed the 2.0.6 source
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:25] <eurowerke> yeah
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:27] <eurowerke> that's what I did
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:42] <eurowerke> I seem to think that I built mysql from source too
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:49] <eurowerke> but I guess I apt-ed it
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:56] <eurowerke> apt-got it
[02-Oct-2007 23:14:56] <mutil8> didn't install python-dev from apt, installed python2.4-dev (2.5 is what you get with python-dev)
[02-Oct-2007 23:15:24] <mutil8> i had to add autoconf to that first list of things installed with apt
[02-Oct-2007 23:15:45] <mutil8> when you get to the mysql part, install libmysqlclient15-dev, not mysqlclient15-dev (package doesn't exist)
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:03] <mutil8> i also had to install 'patch' with apt
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:11] <mutil8> and snmp
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:23] <mutil8> those are the changes i made
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:40] <eurowerke> i just installed snmp locally like last week
[02-Oct-2007 23:16:49] <eurowerke> all that config was another headache
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:14] <eurowerke> I'm not monitoring the local host, though I could prob use the local proc monitoring to watch apache
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:14] <mutil8> in order to get snmpwalk to work, you need to install the snmp package
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:29] <eurowerke> i never installed the snmpd then
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:31] <eurowerke> until last week
[02-Oct-2007 23:17:55] <eurowerke> just whatever was required to do gets and walks
[02-Oct-2007 23:18:10] <eurowerke> all this stuff was my first introduction to snmp, really
[02-Oct-2007 23:20:02] <mutil8> same here
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:29] <eurowerke> had seen it before and thought it was pretty nifty (I was a network tech back in college) and my coworker had written a web based network monitoring app in perl and PHP that polled all the switches in the network
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:35] <eurowerke> it was a pretty awesome setup
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:38] <eurowerke> but I never got involved with it
[02-Oct-2007 23:22:56] <eurowerke> too involved, anyway
[02-Oct-2007 23:23:01] <eurowerke> just enough to fix stuff
[02-Oct-2007 23:23:57] <mutil8> we're about to deploy almost a quarter million in new hardware, and i need a way to monitor it
[02-Oct-2007 23:24:04] <mutil8> so i figured i'd give zenoss a try
[02-Oct-2007 23:24:11] <mutil8> didn't want to setup nagios for everything
[02-Oct-2007 23:24:17] <mutil8> too much of a PITA
[02-Oct-2007 23:26:17] <mutil8> man i need to get a faster VMware server
[02-Oct-2007 23:29:50] <mutil8> damn, missed a package
[02-Oct-2007 23:29:56] <mutil8> needed to install swig as well
[02-Oct-2007 23:33:45] <mutil8> ok, up and running inside ubuntu 7.04 server
[02-Oct-2007 23:34:58] <eurowerke> oh yea
[02-Oct-2007 23:35:08] <eurowerke> lemme know what you find :-P
[02-Oct-2007 23:35:15] <eurowerke> I'll be around, just back and forth from my desk
[02-Oct-2007 23:35:59] <mutil8> it's discovering my devices right now
[02-Oct-2007 23:38:14] <mutil8> Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-server #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:41:34 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02-Oct-2007 23:38:21] <mutil8> that's the kernel that comes with it
[02-Oct-2007 23:40:41] <eurowerke> hmm maybe got updated
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:34] <eurowerke> the clock is off too
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:42] <eurowerke> i haven't gotten that fixed yet either
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:58] <mutil8> ntp
[02-Oct-2007 23:41:58] <eurowerke> it's better than it was at first
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:10] <eurowerke> it's using ntp but not working well enough
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:11] <mutil8> apt-get install ntp
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:16] <mutil8> should be all you need
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:25] <mutil8> you running it in a vm
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:26] <eurowerke> still drifts an hour or so after a few days
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:27] <eurowerke> yea
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:31] <eurowerke> that's why
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:38] <eurowerke> I changed some of the kernel params
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:43] <eurowerke> but still doesn't help enough
[02-Oct-2007 23:42:53] <mutil8> you have the vmware tools installed
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:04] <eurowerke> using virtual server
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:06] <eurowerke> not vmware
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:08] <mutil8> ah
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:13] <mutil8> same question then
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:17] <mutil8> you have the tools installed
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:33] <eurowerke> vmadditions?
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:33] <mutil8> i use both, and don't have a time issue
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:35] <mutil8> yep
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:48] <eurowerke> i tried installing the other day
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:51] <eurowerke> but didn't seem to do anything
[02-Oct-2007 23:43:54] <eurowerke> cause again, it's ubuntu
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:06] <eurowerke> the additionsforlinux only support RH suse, and the like
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:07] <eurowerke> in fact
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:11] <eurowerke> i read some o fthe code haha
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:28] <eurowerke> the main vmadd module has an exit function if $system == debian
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:36] <mutil8> hahah
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:37] <mutil8> nice
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:39] <eurowerke> LOL
[02-Oct-2007 23:44:52] <eurowerke> i alien'd the rpms
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:03] <eurowerke> although there is a kernel module, that I might try
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:16] <eurowerke> but then I have to rebuild it
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:16] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:20] <eurowerke> all small problems
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:33] <eurowerke> I might just end up running hwclock --hctosys once a day
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:34] <eurowerke> on cron
[02-Oct-2007 23:45:34] <eurowerke> heh
[02-Oct-2007 23:48:00] <eurowerke> brb gotta go reset a wireless AP
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[03-Oct-2007 00:16:21] <brandonl> Hellpo
[03-Oct-2007 00:16:47] <brandonl> Does anyone know how to rebuild the relations a device?
[03-Oct-2007 00:17:08] <brandonl> *for a device
[03-Oct-2007 00:26:47] <mutil8> sorry, i wouldn't even know where to begin
[03-Oct-2007 00:34:30] <brandonl> that bad huh?
[03-Oct-2007 00:35:33] <eurowerke> so no problems running ./install.sh, huh mutil?
[03-Oct-2007 00:36:43] <brandonl> I have extended the Device class but have to delete devices and remodel them before the changes take place...
[03-Oct-2007 00:38:03] <mutil8> eurowerke: none that couldn't be fixed by check the install log and installing whatever the missing package was with apt
[03-Oct-2007 00:38:16] <mutil8> brandonl: im new to zenoss, so i don't really even know what you're talking about
[03-Oct-2007 00:39:51] <eurowerke> oh ok
[03-Oct-2007 00:39:52] <eurowerke> hrm
[03-Oct-2007 00:39:59] <eurowerke> no errors about zensocket?
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:11] <imperfect-> Hey.
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:12] <mutil8> nope
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:13] <eurowerke> LAME!
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:15] <eurowerke> haha
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:21] <imperfect-> ZenOSS makes some kickass graphics per interface on my switches
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:30] <imperfect-> Is there anyway to get a better like
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:32] <mutil8> the only mention of zensocket was at the end of the install
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:36] <eurowerke> hrm
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:36] <eurowerke> weird
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:38] <mutil8> where it said to do a chown and chmod
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:43] <eurowerke> is your /bin/ld setuid?
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:43] <imperfect-> overall graphs per switch?
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:44] <mutil8> try building it again, and tell me the error
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:59] <mutil8> eurowerke: i didn't do anything to it, so whatever the default is
[03-Oct-2007 00:40:59] <eurowerke> maybe I will ! ^_^ tomorrow
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:04] <imperfect-> So I dont have to click on each interface to get the stats?
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:06] <eurowerke> can you check
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:06] <eurowerke> ?
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:08] <mutil8> sure
[03-Oct-2007 00:41:46] <mutil8> ls: /bin/ld: No such file or directory
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:01] <eurowerke> oops
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:13] <mutil8> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 460564 2007-01-05 03:54 /usr/bin/ld
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:19] <eurowerke> yah
[03-Oct-2007 00:42:31] <eurowerke> wacky
[03-Oct-2007 00:43:16] <eurowerke> brb
[03-Oct-2007 00:45:31] <mutil8> whenever you decide you want to test it, let me know
[03-Oct-2007 00:45:33] <mutil8> i should be around
[03-Oct-2007 00:50:09] <eurowerke> ok
[03-Oct-2007 00:53:55] <mutil8> hell, if you want i'll even package up this VM
[03-Oct-2007 00:58:41] <eurowerke> heh
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:16] <brandonl> So, when I run
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:38] <brandonl> for i in dmd.Devices.getSubComponents()
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:40] <brandonl> print i
[03-Oct-2007 00:59:49] <brandonl> I get a list of all the components
[03-Oct-2007 01:00:51] <brandonl> but running buildRelations on each component is not modifying the existing devices
[03-Oct-2007 01:18:22] <eurowerke> hrm
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[03-Oct-2007 10:51:50] <loxs> WARNING:zen.ZenDisc:no snmp found for ip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx any idea why i get this on 98% of devices in discovery?
[03-Oct-2007 11:08:03] <imperfect-> Morning
[03-Oct-2007 11:59:51] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[03-Oct-2007 12:00:21] <imperfect-> I'm trying to figure out why I am getting unrouted VLAN threshold message when I don't appear to be actually monitoring those interfaces?
[03-Oct-2007 12:27:19] <Bulwinkle> has anyone else had MySQL problem upgrading from 2.0.90 to 2.0.91?
[03-Oct-2007 12:42:12] <Bulwinkle> alright, who can tell me where the file with the mysql user and password are?
[03-Oct-2007 12:43:01] <Bulwinkle> zenmigrate is failing due to improper mysql authentication and I can't find the credentials it is using. I just updated them in ZenEventManager and it didn't help
[03-Oct-2007 12:50:35] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle, do you ever go home?
[03-Oct-2007 12:50:47] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: yeah...
[03-Oct-2007 12:50:59] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I'm at work from 7am to 4 pm CST
[03-Oct-2007 12:51:30] <MoreDakka> Oh and I had a huge problem with 2.0.91, fresh install not upgrading, MySQL....yuck
[03-Oct-2007 12:51:42] <MoreDakka> Yeah, 8-4:30 MST here.
[03-Oct-2007 12:52:02] <MoreDakka> but we need to bring the car in so I'm here an hour early today....blegh...sooo early.
[03-Oct-2007 12:53:19] <MoreDakka> Zenoss breaks if you use MySQL Standard24a (doesn't like the 'a')
[03-Oct-2007 12:53:40] <MoreDakka> There is a fix if that is your problem.
[03-Oct-2007 12:57:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I
[03-Oct-2007 12:57:58] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I'm running 5.0.26
[03-Oct-2007 12:58:10] <MoreDakka> ah, that's not your problem then.
[03-Oct-2007 12:59:06] <Trojaneyez> When doing a discovery my entire CentOS 5 system becomes non responsive. Any Ideas?
[03-Oct-2007 13:19:46] <MoreDakka> If I have a drive that mounts during a backup then unmounts after (on another machine that's different from the zenoss box) and when that machine was modeled zenoss found that drive and is now always looking for it, is there a way to have zenoss stop looking for that drive cause it's generating events that I don't care about.
[03-Oct-2007 13:35:38] <Trojaneyez> How do you model a 7206VXR Cisco Router that is a gateway for an ISP. The routing on it are massive, it's also hosting it's BGP, and I can't get it to model anything larger then a couple thousand user router
[03-Oct-2007 13:42:37] <MoreDakka> Anyone know anything about logrotate?
[03-Oct-2007 13:42:59] <MoreDakka> (sorry Troganeyez, I don't know anything that can help you
)[03-Oct-2007 13:43:10] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka what you need to know about logrotate?
[03-Oct-2007 13:44:32] <MoreDakka> I'm setting up a syslog server and plan on having quite a few machines sending logs to it. I want to have syslog deposit the logs in /var/log/syslog/$CompanyName/$Host . Is there a way to get logrotate to go into each directory under /var/log/syslog and rotate *.log in each dir?
[03-Oct-2007 13:44:54] <MoreDakka> I saw it once a long time ago but wasn't setting this up so I didn't bookmark it :-/
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:16] <Trojaneyez> yeah there is
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:35] <Trojaneyez> i actually just did that a few months ago, let me go look at the machine and see how i did it agai
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:36] <Trojaneyez> again
[03-Oct-2007 13:45:40] <MoreDakka> sweet
[03-Oct-2007 13:50:36] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka You should be able to say /syslog/* and it will rotate all
[03-Oct-2007 13:51:28] <MoreDakka> I was reading through the docs and won't it try to rotate old logs and stuff as well or do you have logrotate move the old logs out into a different dir?
[03-Oct-2007 13:51:58] <Trojaneyez> I moved mine to a different directories
[03-Oct-2007 13:52:13] <MoreDakka> Ah...that's why....maybe I'll just do that. Simplify things ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 13:52:19] <Trojaneyez> yup
[03-Oct-2007 13:52:36] <MoreDakka> thnx ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 13:53:42] <Trojaneyez> np
[03-Oct-2007 13:59:23] <loxs> does this thing do normal inventory scanning on desktop pcs? ie software installed nd hardware installed
[03-Oct-2007 14:00:09] <loxs> cus all i seem to get when im trying to add devices is
[03-Oct-2007 14:00:12] <loxs> WARNING:zen.ZenDisc:no snmp found for ip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx any idea why i get this on 98% of devices in discovery?
[03-Oct-2007 14:00:24] <MoreDakka> If SNMP is enabled on those PCs (or WMI) it "should". I've never done it, but it should work.
[03-Oct-2007 14:02:44] <loxs> hmmm well machines i know for a fact snmp is enabled on its not working
[03-Oct-2007 14:02:48] <loxs> so not sure whats up with it
[03-Oct-2007 14:03:46] <MoreDakka> the community on the pcs is set to public (I think that's Zenoss's default)
[03-Oct-2007 14:05:14] <loxs> how do i change this?
[03-Oct-2007 14:06:48] <MoreDakka> Ehhh, not sure on that one.
[03-Oct-2007 14:07:34] <MoreDakka> are all the pcs on the same community?
[03-Oct-2007 14:07:51] <loxs> nope infact im not sure what community there in
[03-Oct-2007 14:07:56] <loxs> but my servers are all in one
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:01] <loxs> and they dont show either
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:06] <loxs> bah ill have a fidle
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:14] <loxs> all i need is an inventory manager
[03-Oct-2007 14:08:26] <loxs> to kinda act as a cmdb
[03-Oct-2007 14:11:04] <Bulwinkle> loxs: have you gone to the console of the zenoss server and tried a snmpwalk?
[03-Oct-2007 14:16:46] <loxs> snmpwalk -c public -v l localhost ?
[03-Oct-2007 14:18:42] <loxs> should that work
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:04] <MoreDakka> If that's running on the host that has SNMP running with community 'public'.
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:44] <loxs> yeh i keep trying it
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:47] <loxs> but it fails
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:52] <loxs> cus of the -v flag
[03-Oct-2007 14:21:55] <loxs> so i take it out
[03-Oct-2007 14:22:12] <loxs> and get : localhost: Unknown Object Identifier (Sub-id not found: (top) -> localhost)
[03-Oct-2007 14:22:22] <MoreDakka> Is that a one or a L next to -v?
[03-Oct-2007 14:22:58] <MoreDakka> try snmpwalk -cpublic -v1 localhost
[03-Oct-2007 14:23:45] <loxs> 1
[03-Oct-2007 14:23:59] <loxs> ah there we go
[03-Oct-2007 14:24:08] <MoreDakka> that work?
[03-Oct-2007 14:24:12] <loxs> yeh
[03-Oct-2007 14:24:14] <MoreDakka> yay
[03-Oct-2007 14:35:24] <xoritor> ok so when creating the rpm you are defining the user to be added
[03-Oct-2007 14:35:40] <xoritor> could you please use a uid below 500?
[03-Oct-2007 14:35:46] <xoritor> pretty please?
[03-Oct-2007 14:36:12] <xoritor> the uid of 1337 conflicts with "user space" accounts
[03-Oct-2007 14:36:34] <xoritor> i realize its fun, but its not practical
[03-Oct-2007 14:37:36] <kgoedtel> 'users' on a monitoring box..... ?
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:09] <kgoedtel> something sounds wrong with that picture
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:25] <xoritor> not going to be "users" per se
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:29] <kgoedtel> or, looks wrong :]
[03-Oct-2007 14:38:46] <xoritor> its just is not right to have a system account in "user space" ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 14:39:18] <kgoedtel> it could just as easily be conflicting with a system account below 500
[03-Oct-2007 14:39:46] <kgoedtel> probably more easily
[03-Oct-2007 14:40:00] <xoritor> but it is much more standard
[03-Oct-2007 14:43:14] <kgoedtel> well, probably just nitpicking, considering how self contained a zenoss install is it would be trivial to change it to your liking
[03-Oct-2007 15:27:44] <snoozes> Greetings all.
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:08] <mrhinkle> hi snoozes
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:24] <snoozes> Anyone here wrestled with the dreaded "skipping your.server.com has bad wmi state"?
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:35] <snoozes> Used to get this on 2.0.2, now on 2.0.6.
[03-Oct-2007 15:28:47] <snoozes> posted to zenoss-users, but never really got a good resolution.
[03-Oct-2007 15:29:02] <snoozes> What's odd is I am monitoring two windows servers, and things are great on one and not working on the other.
[03-Oct-2007 15:29:14] <snoozes> Can't seem to kick it in the right place to get it working.
[03-Oct-2007 15:31:58] <progma> snoozes: continuing to wrestle with it here, no idea what is going on
[03-Oct-2007 15:32:27] <snoozes> I've used that Windows client to peruse the WMI registry on the server that's giving issues, no problem at all with that.
[03-Oct-2007 15:32:36] <snoozes> so I know wmi is readable
[03-Oct-2007 15:32:44] <snoozes> zenoss just has fits with it for some reason.
[03-Oct-2007 15:33:29] <progma> snoozes: url to that Windows client? the admins here say they can get wmi also..
[03-Oct-2007 15:33:43] <mutil8> i would look into the username/password you're using
[03-Oct-2007 15:34:39] <hotgrits> mutil8: +1
[03-Oct-2007 15:34:41] <snoozes> The uname pwd is fine
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:03] <snoozes> I'm monitoring two servers. One working fine, the other just not working.
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:04] <mutil8> you using a local or domain account?
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:05] <snoozes> finding the url
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:10] <snoozes> local account ".\Administrator"
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:17] <mutil8> try lowercase 'a'
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:31] <snoozes> will try, but as I said, working fine on server A, failing on server B. same config.
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:41] <mutil8> 64 bit or 32 bit?
[03-Oct-2007 15:35:46] <snoozes> 64 bit, both of them
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:08] <mutil8> hmm, i had an issue with either 64 or 32 bit needing the username to be lowercase
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:10] <snoozes> tool is called WMI Explorer - http://www.ks-soft.net/
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:12] <mutil8> can't remember which it was
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:19] <adytum-bot> Title: KS-Soft - Network management software (at www.ks-soft.net)
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:21] <progma> snoozes: thanks!
[03-Oct-2007 15:36:23] <snoozes> yw
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:02] <snoozes> isn't case irrelevant for login names in windows?
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:23] <mutil8> snoozes: yes
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:35] <mutil8> and i only had this problem on 2.0.6
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:40] <mutil8> didn't have the problem in the beta
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:51] <mutil8> im assuming there's some way 2.0.6 was passing it
[03-Oct-2007 15:37:55] <snoozes> Changed to .\administrator, zenwinmodeler is taking up the config
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:13] <mutil8> also did you acknowledge, and move the even to history?
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:28] <mutil8> event
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:32] <snoozes> still getting bad wmi state.
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:54] <snoozes> Curious, what is it about ack'ing the event that matters?
[03-Oct-2007 15:38:57] <progma> is there a sample zeneventlog config i can look at somewhere
[03-Oct-2007 15:39:45] <snoozes> mutil8, seeing only one event in the log: ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[03-Oct-2007 15:39:46] <mutil8> snoozes: you may not NEED to do it, but it seems to clear things up faster, if i have a problem, i'll ack, clear, then re-model to see if it the problem comes back
[03-Oct-2007 15:39:58] <mutil8> thats username/password error
[03-Oct-2007 15:40:02] <snoozes> ok, I've acked, will history it, and remodel.
[03-Oct-2007 15:40:42] <hotgrits> snoozes: try running this from the command line as the zenoss user: 'winexe -U username%password //host "net view"' ... this should show you what's happening with that box
[03-Oct-2007 15:40:55] <snoozes> hotgrits, will try
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:21] <snoozes> hotgrits, getting a spew of servernames, probably other hosts at my hosting provider.
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:25] <xoritor> how can i get 2 distributed zenoss monitors to "share" information?
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:32] <xoritor> buy the enterprise product?
[03-Oct-2007 15:42:34] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 15:44:39] <xoritor> would a shared mysql db help?
[03-Oct-2007 15:49:31] <snoozes> interesting, zenwinmodeler reports that it is collecting from my problem server using .\administrator
[03-Oct-2007 15:50:04] <snoozes> holy cow. I see Win Services.
[03-Oct-2007 15:50:07] <snoozes> wtf
[03-Oct-2007 15:50:38] <snoozes> mutil8, you da man
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:02] <snoozes> but i'll tell you what's odd, the other server that's working is configured as .\Administrator, and it too is 64-bit. so go figure.
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:07] <mutil8> hmmm
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:13] <mutil8> wonder if there's a patch on one that isn't on the other
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:27] <snoozes> there's nothing on these two servers at all except snmp-informant
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:30] <mutil8> i went through and just made them all lowercase, since none have a problem with that
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:38] <snoozes> oh, you meant some OS patch
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:50] <mutil8> yeah
[03-Oct-2007 15:51:54] <snoozes> Could be.
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:17] <snoozes> Seems unlikely tho. They were both stood up at the same time by the same hosting provider, and have supposedly had all the same service packs and updates.
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:31] <mutil8> if it's not your box, don't assume
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:40] <snoozes> It's my dedicated server.
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:42] <snoozes> both are
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:45] <mutil8> who knows what those guys do
[03-Oct-2007 15:52:56] <snoozes> true
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:13] <mutil8> i keep getting snmp agent down on a couple of my boxes, and can't figure that out
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:22] <snoozes> Ok, well color me happy. Things seem to be working.
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:32] <snoozes> I love me some IRC.
[03-Oct-2007 15:53:38] <mutil8> hah
[03-Oct-2007 15:54:53] <snoozes> I'm posting the .\administrator tip to my thread on the forums, and crediting you mutil8. thank you.
[03-Oct-2007 15:56:30] <mutil8> cool, np
[03-Oct-2007 15:58:09] <snoozes> Next question: Is there an easy way to configure things so that zenoss only monitors those windows services that happen to be both Automatic and Running?
[03-Oct-2007 15:58:32] <snoozes> It's modeled a ton of services by default, and is monitoring them all, including quite a few I don't care about.
[03-Oct-2007 15:58:45] <snoozes> Every time I restart zenoss I get a ton of alerts that various services are down.
[03-Oct-2007 15:59:05] <snoozes> I started going through them one by one and setting monitor to false, but it's quite time intensive and manual.
[03-Oct-2007 16:03:09] <mutil8> that i can't help you on, i haven't got that var into it yet
[03-Oct-2007 16:03:59] <incorrect> excuse my idiocy, but what is the default username and pwd?
[03-Oct-2007 16:04:06] <incorrect> passwd even
[03-Oct-2007 16:04:12] <incorrect> i don't need to know my current dir
[03-Oct-2007 16:04:30] <incorrect> oh just guessed it
[03-Oct-2007 16:08:36] <incorrect> is there a getting started guide?
[03-Oct-2007 16:08:55] <progma> admin zenoss
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:06] <progma> oh uh, check the website
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:15] <progma> for install/getting started
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:20] <snoozes> Anyone monitoring windows servers with > 4GB RAM?
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:36] <snoozes> I was hoping to monitor on Committed Bytes...
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:49] <snoozes> snmp-informant isn't returning the right numbers to begin with
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:56] <snoozes> and zenoss is showing the numbers as negative!
[03-Oct-2007 16:09:57] <mutil8> snoozes: i am
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:06] <mutil8> im monitoring 8-32gb of ram
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:09] <snoozes> I actually ponied up for the Advanced version of snmp-informant
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:15] <snoozes> thinking i'd get better 64-bit support
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:27] <mutil8> what release of zenoss?
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:29] <snoozes> mutil8, tried graphing committed bytes yet?
[03-Oct-2007 16:10:31] <snoozes> 2.0.6
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:09] <mutil8> not quite sure how to do that
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:13] <incorrect> will zenoss automatically scan my networks?
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:26] <mutil8> the perf tab shows free memory
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:36] <snoozes> yes, but I think that's free physical memory
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:40] <mutil8> yes it is
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:46] <mutil8> what are you trying to graph?
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:48] <snoozes> I want to get a picture of total memory, phys + virtual
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:51] <snoozes> that's called committed bytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:11:57] <mutil8> how are you trying to set this up?
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:14] <snoozes> I created a new performance template and am monitoring the OID that returns the committed bytes reading
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:39] <snoozes> So, made a new Data Source and DataPoint for committed bytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:42] <snoozes> and added a new graph
[03-Oct-2007 16:12:57] <snoozes> It's working great on my one box, but the committed bytes never goes above 1.5GB on that server.
[03-Oct-2007 16:13:07] <snoozes> my DB server is another story, committed is at like 7.5GB.
[03-Oct-2007 16:13:23] <snoozes> snmp-informant is returning numbers in the 3.2 range, which is completely wrong
[03-Oct-2007 16:13:34] <snoozes> and for whatever reason, zenoss is showing me negative numbers in my graph.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:00] <snoozes> I am wondering if this is because the datatypes used to store these values are 32-bit and cannot represent a number that needs 64-bits to fully express it.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:25] <snoozes> So in effect, wondering if the 32-bit variables are "wrapping around" or just goofing up my values that are > 4GB.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:32] <snoozes> That's what I suspect anyway.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:34] <progma> incorrect: yes, autodiscovery; google "zendisc"
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:42] <snoozes> There's a different OID that represents % of committed bytes.
[03-Oct-2007 16:14:48] <snoozes> So I've also set up a graph to monitor that
[03-Oct-2007 16:15:08] <snoozes> That one's working fine. I'm just disappointed that I can't monitor actual committed bytes.
[03-Oct-2007 16:15:44] <mutil8> hmmm
[03-Oct-2007 16:16:02] <mutil8> let met see if i can figure out how to make a graph and i'll test it it on a couple of my boxes
[03-Oct-2007 16:16:21] <snoozes> Since I purchased snmp-informant-ADV pack, I emailed them for support asking why I'm not getting the right #s back for committed bytes. awaiting their response.
[03-Oct-2007 16:17:24] <snoozes> mutil8: I found the default templates didn't suit my setup, as I have multiple CPUs, so I created my own custom template and now have a separate CPU graph for each individual CPU.
[03-Oct-2007 16:17:32] <snoozes> definitely took a little head banging to figure all that out
[03-Oct-2007 16:17:38] <snoozes> so ping me if you need anything.
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:08] <mutil8> that would be really handy
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:21] <snoozes> If I can figure out how to export this template, I can fwd it...
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:35] <mutil8> my 'smallest' box is a dual xeon 5110 with 8gb of ram
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:40] <snoozes>
[03-Oct-2007 16:18:44] <mutil8> it's be nice to not have everything lumped together
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:16] <mutil8> heh, i don't even know where to get the OID's i would want
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:22] <mutil8> this is my first experience with SNMP
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:23] <snoozes> I've got you covered, one sec.
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:26] <snoozes> me too
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:50] <snoozes> freaking snmp-informant site hides it's urls
[03-Oct-2007 16:19:53] <snoozes> its
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:06] <snoozes> try here: http://www.wtcs.org/informant/adv/overview.htm
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:13] <adytum-bot> Title: SNMP Informant - Advanced Agent (at www.wtcs.org)
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:23] <snoozes> then click the button for Display SNMP Informant-STD OID Tree
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:29] <snoozes> if you're using the free one
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:34] <mutil8> ok cool
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:55] <snoozes> it's a tree, so all your OIDs will start with: 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1
[03-Oct-2007 16:20:58] <snoozes> then add what you need
[03-Oct-2007 16:21:33] <snoozes> you should snmpwalk 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1 to see all your CPUs
[03-Oct-2007 16:22:00] <mutil8> ok, looks like i added one for memoryCommittedBytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:22:08] <mutil8> lets see what graphs
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:08] <snoozes> for kicks, try a snmpwalk or snmpget on 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.4 - that's the committedbytes one.
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:27] <MoreDakka> what's the difference between get and walk?
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:36] <snoozes> walk will traverse the tree and all subnodes
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:41] <snoozes> get grabs a single node
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:49] <MoreDakka> ahhh
[03-Oct-2007 16:23:58] <snoozes> just learned that yesterday
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:02] <MoreDakka> you == snmp master ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:08] <snoozes> hardly
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:21] <mutil8> snmpget -c<communicty> <host> <OID>
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:22] <mutil8> ?
[03-Oct-2007 16:24:40] <snoozes> I have snmpwalk -v1 -cCommunity host oid
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:01] <mutil8> ah, ok
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:07] <mutil8> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.2.4.0 = Gauge32: 3978031104
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:08] <snoozes> FYI, in taskmgr, the committed bytes is Commit Charge Total
[03-Oct-2007 16:25:26] <snoozes> so those two numbers should match up
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:16] <mutil8> wonder if im looking at the wrong OID
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:27] <mutil8> because i've got 8090596 in taskmanager
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:37] <snoozes> On my "big" box, taskmgr shows 8038000K roughly. snmpwalk returns SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.2.4.0 = Gauge32: 3931734016
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:44] <snoozes> so it's wrong.
[03-Oct-2007 16:26:57] <snoozes> You can snmpwalk the whole 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2 tree
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:03] <snoozes> you'll see nothing that looks like 8GB
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:28] <mutil8> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.2.5.0 = Gauge32: 83836928
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:52] <mutil8> memoryCacheBytes
[03-Oct-2007 16:27:56] <mutil8> that's what it corresponds to
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:00] <snoozes> that's a small number
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:08] <snoozes> like 8MB
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:12] <snoozes> sorry
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:14] <snoozes> 83mb
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:18] <mutil8> true
[03-Oct-2007 16:28:37] <snoozes> yeah, that's cache bytes, not committed mem
[03-Oct-2007 16:29:35] <snoozes> You'll note it says "Gauge32"... so it's trying to represent the true value in 32 bits. The highest number you can represent with 32 bits is 4GB.
[03-Oct-2007 16:30:26] <snoozes> And I get the same results from their paid version.
[03-Oct-2007 16:30:32] <snoozes> frustrating
[03-Oct-2007 16:30:46] <snoozes> And I'm not even sure if zenoss could handle >32bit values anyway.
[03-Oct-2007 16:31:02] <mutil8> wonder if there's a 64bit version of snmp informant
[03-Oct-2007 16:31:07] <snoozes> I bought it.
[03-Oct-2007 16:32:44] <snoozes> Oh, fyi, you can import the "MIB" files into zenoss via the command line. So you can download the v2 MIB from snmp-informant's site and import it with zenmib. However, there's a dependency on some other file. let me find the right syntax.
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:06] <snoozes> After importing, all the names and OIDs will be available to you in your zenoss site under the MIB menu item.
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:10] <mutil8> looks like the free version is 32bit only
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:28] <mutil8> oh cool
[03-Oct-2007 16:33:39] <snoozes> Yes, 32-bit. I bought and am running the 64-bit version. It uses all different OIDs. But I'm still getting committedbytes returned to me as Gauge32.
[03-Oct-2007 16:34:48] <mutil8> did you happen to notice when you installed if it detected that it was 64 bit?
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:20] <snoozes> It installed into C:\Program Files, and not Program Files (x86), so I think so.
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:27] <mutil8> ah yeah, should have then
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:30] <snoozes> Here are the commands to import those mibs (and download the txt files with wget)...
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:35] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:37] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/INFORMANT
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:43] <snoozes> sorry
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:46] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/INFORMANT-ADV.MIB.TX
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:49] <snoozes> and
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:50] <snoozes> zenmib run WTCS.MIB.TXT INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:35:57] <snoozes> you'll want to run that as the zenoss user
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:18] <snoozes> So the INFORMANT-STB.MIB.TXT is dependent on the WTCS file, so you load WTCS first, then the other.
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:54] <snoozes> Here are the commands again, clean:
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:55] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:55] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/INFORMANT-ADV.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:36:55] <snoozes> zenmib run WTCS.MIB.TXT INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:06] <snoozes> (for posterity)
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:31] <mutil8> failed to import
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:37] <mutil8> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:37] <mutil8> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: INFORMANT-ADV.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:43] <snoozes> did the file successfully download?
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:47] <mutil8> yep
[03-Oct-2007 16:37:57] <snoozes> check your filenames
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:11] <snoozes> oh
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:11] <snoozes> sorry
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:14] <snoozes> geez I goofed it
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:21] <mutil8> rename to .MIB?
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:21] <snoozes> I had you download the ADV version
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:24] <snoozes> one sec
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:48] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/Advanced/SMIv2/WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:48] <snoozes> wget http://www.wtcs.org/informant/files/MIBS/STD/SMIv2/INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:38:48] <snoozes> zenmib run WTCS.MIB.TXT INFORMANT-STD.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:08] <snoozes> ADV is the $$$ version.
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:38] <mutil8> heh, nope
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:40] <mutil8> same error
[03-Oct-2007 16:39:52] <mutil8> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: WTCS.MIB.TXT
[03-Oct-2007 16:40:16] <snoozes> checked the link, it's good
[03-Oct-2007 16:40:27] <mutil8> it downloaded them, just doesn't want to import
[03-Oct-2007 16:40:42] <snoozes> lemme check my command history again
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:10] <snoozes> check file perms on those txt files?
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:11] <snoozes> readable?
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:15] <kgoedtel> so apparently you can't have dots in your data source if you plan to graph it, rrd can't parse it
[03-Oct-2007 16:41:36] <mutil8> yeah, they're readable
[03-Oct-2007 16:42:07] <snoozes> maybe use tab-completion to make sure the filenames are right. type "zenmib run" then WT<tab> and see what you get, then do the same with INFOR*
[03-Oct-2007 16:42:39] <snoozes> can you cat the WTCS file?
[03-Oct-2007 16:42:44] <snoozes> is the stuff really in there?
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:07] <mutil8> yeah, it's there, and i used tab to complete the name
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:17] <mutil8> cat works fine on it
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:40] <snoozes> You're running as the zenoss user?
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:43] <mutil8> yes
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:48] <snoozes> hmm, not sure what's up.
[03-Oct-2007 16:44:52] <snoozes> worked first time for me.
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:10] <mutil8> don't know
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:16] <mutil8> i'll deal with it later i guess
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:26] <snoozes> yeah, no great benefit to having them imported that I've discovered yet.
[03-Oct-2007 16:47:36] <snoozes> just another reference
[03-Oct-2007 16:49:57] <mutil8> chances are i'll only need a handful of them anyways, and can just add them as i need them
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:35] <snoozes> snoozes, I figured out how to make a ZenPack of my multicore performance template. It's got the snmp-informant-ADV OIDs, but you could just replace them with STD ones.
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:36] <snoozes> want it?
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:43] <snoozes> mutil8 I mean
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:48] <snoozes> geez, i'm talking to myself here.
[03-Oct-2007 16:56:52] <mutil8> yeah, that'd be great
[03-Oct-2007 16:57:50] <mutil8> im here, just workin
[03-Oct-2007 16:58:22] <snoozes> tried private msging you...
[03-Oct-2007 16:58:25] <snoozes> didn't work?
[03-Oct-2007 16:59:42] <mutil8> nope
[03-Oct-2007 17:00:01] <snoozes> weird.
[03-Oct-2007 17:01:21] <snoozes> try to private message me
[03-Oct-2007 17:02:20] * snoozes scratches his head...
[03-Oct-2007 17:03:47] <snoozes> Got a junk email addr you don't mind posting here?
[03-Oct-2007 17:08:04] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:28] <mutil8> you get that?
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:33] <mutil8> (just sent it)
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:42] <snoozes> yes
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:51] <mutil8> you respond?
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:55] <snoozes> i did
[03-Oct-2007 17:12:57] <snoozes> am doing
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:02] <snoozes> must not be working right... weird
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:03] <mutil8> hmm, didn't get it, strange
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:09] <mutil8> you must not be identivied on the server
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:23] <mutil8> just gave you my email
[03-Oct-2007 17:13:25] <snoozes> k
[03-Oct-2007 17:14:28] <snoozes> sent
[03-Oct-2007 17:14:39] <mutil8> great
[03-Oct-2007 17:15:25] <snoozes> see page 167 of the pdf manual for importing a zenpack
[03-Oct-2007 17:15:34] <snoozes> 22.2 i think should work.
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:09] <mutil8> ok
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:38] <mutil8> btw, i get negative numbers on that commit graph as well
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:45] <snoozes> Yep
[03-Oct-2007 17:16:47] <snoozes> lame
[03-Oct-2007 17:20:19] <mutil8> -329.62G
[03-Oct-2007 17:20:23] <mutil8> now that's efficient
[03-Oct-2007 17:21:53] <mutil8> wish i knew why i get snmp agent down on 2 of my servers
[03-Oct-2007 17:25:48] <mutil8> btw, still haven't got that email
[03-Oct-2007 17:26:39] <mutil8> wonder if it got snagged by the spam filter
[03-Oct-2007 17:28:06] <mutil8> man, 54.5% of our email is spam
[03-Oct-2007 17:29:00] <MoreDakka> snmp master, how do I get snmpwalk to show me the text value of an OID (So I know what it is)?
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:02] <mutil8> doesn't snmpwalk do that by the nature of what it does?
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:10] <mutil8> start with the top most OID, and it shows you everything under it
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:21] <mutil8> typically gives a description
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:23] <mutil8> if that's what you mean
[03-Oct-2007 17:32:52] <mutil8> hmmm, guess it doesn't
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:10] <mutil8> http://www.wtcs.org/informant/adv/overview.htm
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:17] <adytum-bot> Title: SNMP Informant - Advanced Agent (at www.wtcs.org)
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:29] <mutil8> choose 'display snmp informat-STD OID Tree'
[03-Oct-2007 17:33:34] <mutil8> you get some descriptions there
[03-Oct-2007 17:44:45] bkingx__ is now known as bkingx
[03-Oct-2007 17:56:39] <MoreDakka> This device doesn't have the Informant on it.
[03-Oct-2007 17:58:00] <mutil8> http://www.mibdepot.com/cgi-bin/xsearch_index3.cgi?id=105746
[03-Oct-2007 17:58:07] <mutil8> you may find what you're looking for there
[03-Oct-2007 17:58:17] <adytum-bot> Title: mibDepot.com - Search Page (at www.mibdepot.com)
[03-Oct-2007 18:03:53] <Trojaneyez> I keep getting this on discovery for the device and it seems to go forever "INFO:zen.Device:WARNING:zen.IpRouteEntry:interface index:0 not found"
[03-Oct-2007 18:06:46] <MoreDakka> What version are you running?
[03-Oct-2007 18:07:07] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka Beta
[03-Oct-2007 18:07:17] <MoreDakka> v2.0.91?
[03-Oct-2007 18:07:31] <Trojaneyez> yes
[03-Oct-2007 18:08:37] <MoreDakka> "2007-10-03 12:07:23 INFO zen.Device WARNING:zen.IpRouteEntry:interface index:0 not found"
[03-Oct-2007 18:08:52] <MoreDakka> I get that about 8 times when I try to model my cisco 871
[03-Oct-2007 18:08:59] <MoreDakka> cluther says it's a bug.
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:13] <MoreDakka> well maybe not in so many words..
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:23] <MoreDakka> I sent him some logs and he didn't know why it was doing it.
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:27] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka I'm trying on a 7206VXR Cisco Router and it seems nonstop
[03-Oct-2007 18:09:39] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka Anways around that as of yet that youknow of ?
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:01] <MoreDakka> Is there lots of routes on that 7206VXR router?
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:15] <MoreDakka> Might be a problem with zenoss not liking ciscos or something
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:18] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka yes tons, it is hosting a BGP
[03-Oct-2007 18:10:39] <MoreDakka> Ah, that's probably why it goes on forever. Bet there is one of those warnings for each route
[03-Oct-2007 18:11:24] <MoreDakka> v2.0.90 didn't have that problem.
[03-Oct-2007 18:11:30] <MoreDakka> but v2.0.91 does
[03-Oct-2007 18:11:48] <MoreDakka> Least I don't think it did...
[03-Oct-2007 18:12:06] <Trojaneyez> MoreDakka ok thank you
[03-Oct-2007 18:15:51] <xoritor> does the "monitor" have to be set to localhost?
[03-Oct-2007 18:16:48] <MoreDakka> yes. Unless you have a remote monitor (which I don't know how to setup).
[03-Oct-2007 18:16:53] <xoritor> hmmm
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:12] <xoritor> so you can not give it the fqdn and then make that your "monitor"
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:13] <xoritor> ?
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:46] <xoritor> i just dont want to confuse my users that look and see "localhost" as the name of the monitor
[03-Oct-2007 18:17:58] <xoritor> and they think they are monitoring themselves
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:16] <xoritor> dont ask.... yes yes they do think that
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:19] <MoreDakka> I'm not sure if you can rename it or not.
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:37] <MoreDakka> I've tried to create other monitors and zenoss doesn't monitor the devices that are under them.
[03-Oct-2007 18:18:57] <xoritor> well i tried renaming localhost and setting its ip to the external ip
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:08] <snoozes> mutil8, get the email?
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:13] <xoritor> then stuff seems to break
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:15] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:17] <MoreDakka> hah
[03-Oct-2007 18:19:38] <MoreDakka> yeah, I thought something was being monitored when I created a new monitor...then it went down and no one knew...my boss wasn't really happy./
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:01] <xoritor> i have a couple of places to monitor so i have 2 zenoss installs
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:08] <xoritor> one for here one for there
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:33] <MoreDakka> So you have remote monitors setup? Does it work good?
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:36] <xoritor> i would love to tell them to "share" but that looks like it is the enterprise prduct
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:39] <xoritor> no
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:45] <xoritor> they are 2 seperate setups
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:50] <xoritor> they do not share anything
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:54] <xoritor> :-(
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:56] <MoreDakka> well that's gay
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:58] <xoritor> suck
[03-Oct-2007 18:20:59] <xoritor> yea
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:04] <xoritor> and i cant get them to
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:14] <xoritor> i did create a monitor for each one
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:25] <xoritor> but they dont "talk" to each other
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:34] <MoreDakka> It should be one box inside a companies network that sends information to the main zenoss box.
[03-Oct-2007 18:21:39] <xoritor> heck i even opened the firewalls fully to their ips
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:11] <xoritor> yea
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:19] <xoritor> i agree
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:21] <xoritor> thats waht i want
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:36] <MoreDakka> Did you follow a walkthrough?
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:40] <xoritor> no
[03-Oct-2007 18:22:50] <xoritor> didnt find one
[03-Oct-2007 18:23:11] <xoritor> brb gotta get some coffee
[03-Oct-2007 18:30:24] <Trojaneyez> If the Router i'm trying to Model is using BGP so hold millions of routes, and I want it to ignore a majority of them how can i do this?
[03-Oct-2007 18:43:31] <dschrock> Trojaneyez : i had that same problem. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell it to ignore some routes, but not others.
[03-Oct-2007 18:43:49] <MoreDakka> I'm hoping someone can point me to some documentation for setting up remote monitors....
[03-Oct-2007 18:43:50] <dschrock> for the time being, i added a snmp view to the router
[03-Oct-2007 18:44:01] <dschrock> snmp-server view ZENOSS-ROUTES internet included
[03-Oct-2007 18:44:01] <dschrock> snmp-server view ZENOSS-ROUTES system included
[03-Oct-2007 18:44:01] <dschrock> snmp-server view ZENOSS-ROUTES ipRouteEntry excluded
[03-Oct-2007 18:45:35] <kgoedtel> i really wish that there was a way to see how routes are being broken down in zenoss for device dependencies
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:21] <kgoedtel> because right now if a vpn goes down for me, zenoss alerts for every device connected through the vpn
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:21] <dschrock> agreed... filtering by protocol would be nice... collect routes that are not learned via BGP
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:30] <dschrock> yep
[03-Oct-2007 18:46:43] <kgoedtel> and i dont know if it is possible to fix that
[03-Oct-2007 18:47:00] <kgoedtel> but getting dozens of alerts for a single failure sucks :]
[03-Oct-2007 18:47:53] <dschrock> from what i've found so far, this more of a router limitation, as the snmp routing table is ordered by address, not protocol, so it would need to collect the table, before it could filter out...
[03-Oct-2007 18:48:34] <dschrock> leads us back to square one... 200K+ bgp routes + zenoss = no routing table for those routers
[03-Oct-2007 18:49:59] <dschrock> you can limit the collection to local connected routes in the zProperties, but it is unclear how smart it will be intrying to determine dependancies based on a connected routing table
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:18] <MoreDakka> A quick cron question. If I set something to run * 2 * * * it will run every minutes at 2am until 3am right?
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:54] <kgoedtel> until 3am?
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:55] <dschrock> MoreDakka, no it will run at 2 am
[03-Oct-2007 18:50:59] <kgoedtel> yah
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:16] <kgoedtel> 0200 on the minute
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:27] <snoozes> every minute starting at 2:00 until 2:59 i'd say
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:37] <dschrock> or shortly after if there is contention... rarely happens though
[03-Oct-2007 18:51:57] <kgoedtel> ah yes nm
[03-Oct-2007 18:53:35] <dschrock> hrmm...that is a tough one... to run ever 5 minutes, you can use */5 but i'm not sure how to limit it to a specific timeframe, without daemonizing it...
[03-Oct-2007 18:54:06] <dschrock> use cron to launch an app at 2 that will shut itself down at 3
[03-Oct-2007 18:56:07] <MoreDakka> Well I was trying to get it to run at just 2am but the script kept running every minute until 2:59am. haha...what a mess that caused. So now I've got it 0 2 * * * and hopefully that will work
[03-Oct-2007 18:56:20] <kgoedtel> yah
[03-Oct-2007 19:01:47] <MoreDakka> Is there any documentation that shows how to create a remote monitor?
[03-Oct-2007 19:04:53] <dschrock> there used to be for the 1.x series, nothing yet for 2.x series... i know you need to edit some of the config files to tell the install that localhost is not monitor, but i don't recall which files need this... also, some of the components don't need to run on the remote monitor.
[03-Oct-2007 19:05:23] <dschrock> zenhub is the key component...
[03-Oct-2007 19:05:24] <MoreDakka> Maybe they are making it easier for 2.x ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 19:06:33] <dschrock> hopefully... that is one of the key reasons we are using zenoss
[03-Oct-2007 19:08:57] <xoritor> ok
[03-Oct-2007 19:09:04] <xoritor> so i have this error showing up
[03-Oct-2007 19:09:06] <xoritor> IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry '7f00000135ddd4cfffffffe' for key 1"
[03-Oct-2007 19:10:05] <xoritor> and everything is getting the error "Unable to connect to zenhub:"
[03-Oct-2007 19:10:25] <xoritor> and i look at the status of the daemons and most of them are stopped
[03-Oct-2007 19:16:26] <dschrock> zoritor: anything of intrest in the logs?
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:13] <MoreDakka> i'm going to guess that for the stopped deamons there are no logs.
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:23] <xoritor> not really
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:26] <xoritor> there are logs
[03-Oct-2007 19:17:56] <MoreDakka> I ran into that issue when I had 4 deamons that were stopped on a fresh install. I gave up with CentOS4 and went to 5...had no problems installing on CentOS 5.
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:19] <xoritor> i have one that has no issues
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:27] <xoritor> and one that has tons of issues
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:31] <MoreDakka> haha
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:32] <xoritor> they are buillt exactly the same
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:39] <xoritor> both centos 5
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:45] <xoritor> both using the same kickstart
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:48] <MoreDakka> evil twin
[03-Oct-2007 19:26:52] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:09] <kgoedtel> the only time i have had issues is after/during a migration
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:14] <imperfect-> an I get zenoss to make pretty graphs of my network?
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:23] <imperfect-> With lines showing connevitivy and "up/downess"
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:32] <imperfect-> Like it does in the screenshots with servers, only with routers
[03-Oct-2007 19:27:34] <imperfect-> er swtiches
[03-Oct-2007 19:28:10] <kgoedtel> custom templates :]
[03-Oct-2007 19:28:40] <kgoedtel> read mibs, make templates, make graphs, look at pretty pictures
[03-Oct-2007 19:29:30] <Trojaneyez> is Compiling MIBS always such a pain in the ass?
[03-Oct-2007 19:31:57] <mutil8> i still haven't been able to import any MIBS
[03-Oct-2007 19:32:26] <kgoedtel> unless you are doing traps, not much point in importing mibs
[03-Oct-2007 19:33:12] <snoozes> mutil8 - get email?
[03-Oct-2007 19:33:43] <dschrock> the commandline is much easier for importing mibs... you can bulk them up and import a bunch at once... especially nice, since they usually have dependancies
[03-Oct-2007 19:34:33] <imperfect-> http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1024
[03-Oct-2007 19:34:39] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin (at internetworkpro.org)
[03-Oct-2007 19:34:57] <kgoedtel> i still need to learn how to make custom mibs/oids... since exec and extend only produce unusable strings
[03-Oct-2007 19:40:36] <mutil8> snoozes: nope
[03-Oct-2007 19:42:55] <mutil8> i also have 1 machine that keeps giving me an snmp agent down
[03-Oct-2007 19:50:56] <Trojaneyez> why can't i see the zenoss database/
[03-Oct-2007 19:53:29] <progma> Trojaneyez: in mysql? should be events
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:18] <mutil8> snoozes: i got em now, they were held up in the spam filter, they just game through
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:29] <snoozes> great
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:32] <mutil8> thanks
[03-Oct-2007 19:58:36] <snoozes> yw
[03-Oct-2007 19:59:43] <mutil8> won't get to try it out until later, these people expect me to 'work' here
[03-Oct-2007 19:59:45] <mutil8> pffft
[03-Oct-2007 20:00:54] <mutil8> i get a 404 on that url though
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:03] <snoozes> geez
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:19] <snoozes> one of the emails had the attachment
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:24] <snoozes> didn't get that one?
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:39] <snoozes> I'll send it as .txt, change it to zip
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:49] <mutil8> i got the attachment
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:56] <mutil8> one had a URL in it as well, thought it was important
[03-Oct-2007 20:01:58] <snoozes> ok, then you don't need the link
[03-Oct-2007 20:02:01] <mutil8> ah, ok
[03-Oct-2007 20:02:38] <mutil8> you have any machines that give you an snmp agent down on device notification?
[03-Oct-2007 20:03:41] <snoozes> No, I'm monitoring only 2 machines right now, they're both up.
[03-Oct-2007 20:04:15] <mutil8> the box is up, but this one keeps giving me the snmp agent error
[03-Oct-2007 20:05:13] <snoozes> Tried restarting the snmp service on the box?
[03-Oct-2007 20:06:13] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:09] <mutil8> yep
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:14] <mutil8> gonna restart the box itsel
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:16] <mutil8> itself
[03-Oct-2007 20:07:19] <mutil8> there's nothing on it yet
[03-Oct-2007 20:11:22] <progma> anyone monitoring vista with zenoss
[03-Oct-2007 20:11:55] <Trojaneyez> should be shot for using Vista >< sorry just had to say that
[03-Oct-2007 20:12:58] <progma> iawtc
[03-Oct-2007 20:13:04] <progma> but business is business
[03-Oct-2007 20:13:32] <Trojaneyez> progma should be all the same in regards to monitoring
[03-Oct-2007 20:15:43] <progma> snmpinformant, wmi etc ok
[03-Oct-2007 20:21:17] <progma> you can shoot now ;
[03-Oct-2007 20:27:09] <mutil8> hmmm wonder how freaked out vista gets with wmi calls
[03-Oct-2007 20:31:20] <xoritor> well i got sick of hunting down the issues and removed zenoss and reinstalled that server
[03-Oct-2007 20:31:36] <xoritor> maybe just maybe... this will fix some of the issues ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 20:35:04] <mutil8> hmmm, reboot seemed to have fixed my snmp agent down notifications
[03-Oct-2007 20:35:08] <mutil8> what issues were you having?
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:00] <xoritor> im having TONS of issues with a host that is identical to the host that is have zero issues
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:10] <xoritor> i built them both with the same kickstart file
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:15] <xoritor> same distro
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:18] <xoritor> same updates
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:32] <xoritor> same configs
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:38] <xoritor> diff ips and diff names
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:42] <xoritor> all in dns
[03-Oct-2007 20:36:57] <xoritor> daemons start and die
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:03] <xoritor> for no reason
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:36] <xoritor> 2007-10-03 12:37:47 ERROR zen.Events: (1062, "Duplicate entry '7f00000135dde574ffffffe' for key 1")
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:45] <xoritor> and i JUST installed that
[03-Oct-2007 20:37:50] <xoritor> re-installed
[03-Oct-2007 20:38:00] <xoritor> sigh
[03-Oct-2007 20:38:27] <kgoedtel> did you wipe your events db?
[03-Oct-2007 20:39:57] <xoritor> i dont remember... i wiped it this time though ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 20:40:11] <xoritor> i have on several occasions wiped it clean by hand though
[03-Oct-2007 20:40:29] <xoritor> DELETE FROM logs;
[03-Oct-2007 20:40:35] <xoritor> etc...
[03-Oct-2007 20:41:23] <xoritor> but this time i wiped EVERYTHING clean and (i am positive this time) and started over
[03-Oct-2007 20:42:00] <xoritor> rpm -e zenoss && rm -rf /opt/zenoss && rm -rf /home/zenoss && mysqladmin -u root -p drop events
[03-Oct-2007 20:42:11] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 20:42:57] <xoritor> i should not say this local one is perfect... it has some issues, but i think i caused those so i don't mention them
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:11] * xoritor NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER causes issues ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:13] <xoritor> hehehe
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:19] <xoritor> never ever
[03-Oct-2007 20:43:37] * xoritor looks around for someTHING to blame
[03-Oct-2007 20:44:13] <progma> canada maybe?
[03-Oct-2007 20:45:23] <xoritor> im thinking to blame whiteboard cleaner
[03-Oct-2007 20:45:35] <xoritor> that looks like something that would cause an issue
[03-Oct-2007 20:48:10] dschrock is now known as dschrockOut
[03-Oct-2007 21:02:39] <mutil8> everybody pretty much running on redhat/centos?
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:07] <xoritor> for me... yea
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:20] <xoritor> thats all i use other than fedora in a few places
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:31] <xoritor> well
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:35] <xoritor> not true really
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:42] <xoritor> i have some machines still running debian
[03-Oct-2007 21:05:55] <xoritor> and a few freebsd and windows
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:10] <xoritor> but the zenoss stuff all runs on centos
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:22] <mutil8> you monitoring any of those debian boxes with zenoss?
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:32] <mutil8> i'm a debian/windows shop
[03-Oct-2007 21:06:58] <mutil8> performance graphs don't seem to be working on the debian boxes im trying to monitor
[03-Oct-2007 21:07:44] <xoritor> not yet ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 21:08:02] <xoritor> just trying to get these things working 100% before i commit them to doing everything
[03-Oct-2007 21:08:19] <xoritor> i have found that debian does not play well with most other things
[03-Oct-2007 21:09:19] <xoritor> check what snmpd your running and make sure its configured correctly
[03-Oct-2007 21:09:43] <xoritor> and that there are no hosts.{allow,deny} rules blocking it
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:02] <xoritor> also check iptables rules for the right proto/port allowed in for that ip
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:14] <xoritor> udp 161 usually
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:38] <mutil8> i can get some information, just not everything i want
[03-Oct-2007 21:10:43] <mutil8> just needs some tweaking
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:04] <xoritor> aaah
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:23] <xoritor> i will bet your snmpd.conf is limiting the OIDs that you can get
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:35] <xoritor> or you dont have all the mibs loaded
[03-Oct-2007 21:11:55] <xoritor> make sure the snmpd user account has read access to those files
[03-Oct-2007 21:12:01] <xoritor> and that they are in the right directory
[03-Oct-2007 21:21:21] <mutil8> nobody thinks the linux boxes are important, so i'll get the windows machines working first
[03-Oct-2007 21:22:08] <mutil8> who needs phones or backups, or spam filtering, or a firewall, as long as they exchange
[03-Oct-2007 21:22:19] <mutil8> ^have
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:18] <xoritor> LOL
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:18] <kgoedtel> a new manager here who is more worried about getting microsoft exchange and email address syntax and signatures than the linux/solaris machines :[ makes me cry
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:32] <xoritor> that sucks
[03-Oct-2007 21:23:41] <xoritor> thankfully we are just the opposite
[03-Oct-2007 21:24:01] <xoritor> all our stuff is *nix based with a few windows machines for "flavor" ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 21:24:05] <kgoedtel> thats what happens when you hire a microsoft goon!
[03-Oct-2007 21:24:08] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:02] <xoritor> well the total wipe and redo seems to have fixed any issues i was having
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:04] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:13] <xoritor> we shall see how it runs overnight ;-)
[03-Oct-2007 21:25:36] <kgoedtel> whenever i have serious problems i blitz the events db and re-source the included schema
[03-Oct-2007 21:26:02] <kgoedtel> unless you want to check out old historical events
[03-Oct-2007 21:26:07] <kgoedtel> then not such a good idea
[03-Oct-2007 21:27:08] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:27:30] <xoritor> how often is that?
[03-Oct-2007 21:27:50] <xoritor> cause if i have to do that very often i will find another solution
[03-Oct-2007 21:28:43] <xoritor> doing that very often makes is another problem and not a solution
[03-Oct-2007 21:28:44] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:29:15] <kgoedtel> has only happened to me when upgrading or downgrading major revisions
[03-Oct-2007 21:29:23] <kgoedtel> like 1.9 to 2.0 and 2.0 to 2.1
[03-Oct-2007 21:29:56] <mutil8> according to our CEO email is the most important thing to the company
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:17] <mutil8> which is why our exchange cluster is on better hardware than our db cluster
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:22] <kgoedtel> oh god
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:25] <kgoedtel>
[03-Oct-2007 21:30:48] <mutil8> we have about a 20k dollar exchange setup for 40ish people
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:02] <mutil8> go go CEO
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:26] <kgoedtel> wow
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:29] <kgoedtel> serious waste
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:42] <mutil8> yep
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:50] <mutil8> because "email can't go down"
[03-Oct-2007 21:31:52] <xoritor> aah
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:00] <mutil8> best part is.... we only have 1 internet connection
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:05] <mutil8> so.... email CAN go down
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:09] <xoritor> WoW
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:18] <xoritor> man
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:21] <xoritor> thats nutz
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:25] <mutil8> they didn't see the need for multiple connections from different providers
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:35] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:45] <xoritor> heh
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:47] <mutil8> we're moving it all to a colo this month, so i only have about 30 days left of hoping some idiot doesn't hit a telephone pole
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:52] <kgoedtel> did anyone point out the already inherent single point of failure? :[
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:57] <mutil8> i did
[03-Oct-2007 21:32:59] <mutil8> multiple times
[03-Oct-2007 21:33:01] <mutil8> and in writing
[03-Oct-2007 21:33:14] <mutil8> so when it goes down, i (hopefully) won't get fired
[03-Oct-2007 21:36:01] <kgoedtel> maybe one day you can make it 'accidentally' go down to see some fun fireworks
[03-Oct-2007 21:37:03] <mutil8> not worth the headache
[03-Oct-2007 21:37:09] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:23] <kgoedtel> i am just hoping that the mentality shifts in IT away from the firefighting and back to actual innovation
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:32] <mutil8> god that would be nice
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:43] <mutil8> won't happen here
[03-Oct-2007 21:39:45] <mutil8> but it would be nice
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:08] <mutil8> we're installing a reporting system that's built off sql 2000, won't run in sql 2005, and won't run on a 64-bit platform
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:12] <mutil8> how's that for innovation
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:15] <mutil8> oh yeah
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:17] <mutil8> you can't cluster it
[03-Oct-2007 21:40:55] <mutil8> and it's another 'can never go down or else' thing
[03-Oct-2007 21:42:43] <kgoedtel> thats pretty much the problem here
[03-Oct-2007 21:42:53] <kgoedtel> we need a db solution that will cluster well
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:03] <kgoedtel> we have run into a serious bottleneck
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:03] <xoritor> later
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:11] <mutil8> you a mssql shop?
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:16] <kgoedtel> unidata
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:20] <kgoedtel> and mysql
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:38] <kgoedtel> we have only a handful of mssql
[03-Oct-2007 21:43:59] <mutil8> never heard of unidata, and i've never tried to cluster mysql
[03-Oct-2007 21:44:05] <kgoedtel> we tried mysql ndb cluster but it failed miserably
[03-Oct-2007 21:44:16] <mutil8> mssql 2005 seems to cluster somewhat well
[03-Oct-2007 21:44:21] <kgoedtel> the resource requirements are extremely steep
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:13] <kgoedtel> unidata is an ibm database product, i personally wouldnt recommend it :]
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:27] <mutil8> so it's derived from db2?
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:39] <kgoedtel> no, i dont think so
[03-Oct-2007 21:45:55] <mutil8> i thought db2 was the IBM database platform
[03-Oct-2007 21:46:02] <kgoedtel> it is
[03-Oct-2007 21:46:41] <mutil8> ah, unidata is an embeded app
[03-Oct-2007 21:47:01] <kgoedtel> it pretty much sucks as far as i am concerned
[03-Oct-2007 21:47:04] <mutil8> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:47:48] <kgoedtel> you can code in it and stuff
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:04] <kgoedtel> i can read the code, but happy im not a programmer
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:19] <mutil8> must be what they use to run their website
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:23] <mutil8> since it's not working either
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:27] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:48:51] <mutil8> all i want is a price on a DS3000 expansion module
[03-Oct-2007 21:50:10] <kgoedtel> we have a handful of netapp s500s
[03-Oct-2007 21:56:42] <mutil8> hahah
[03-Oct-2007 21:56:43] <mutil8> woopsy
[03-Oct-2007 21:56:48] <mutil8> somebody knocked over the water cooler
[03-Oct-2007 21:57:25] <kgoedtel> last place i worked, someone dropped a full water jug, and it crack/split open when it hit the floor
[03-Oct-2007 21:57:59] <mutil8> yeah, that just happened here when they knocked it over
[03-Oct-2007 21:58:04] <mutil8> it was pretty much full
[03-Oct-2007 21:58:04] <kgoedtel> haha
[03-Oct-2007 21:58:06] <kgoedtel> nice
[03-Oct-2007 22:01:29] <mutil8> man our CFO is gonna stroke out when he see's my purchase request
[03-Oct-2007 22:38:18] <progma> where's the pid file for zeneventlog
[03-Oct-2007 22:38:29] <progma> or any of the zenoss process id files for that matter
[03-Oct-2007 22:40:10] <mutil8> anybody happen to be running windows 2003 web edition?
[03-Oct-2007 22:40:46] <mutil8> /usr/local/zenoss/var
[03-Oct-2007 22:40:56] <mutil8> atleast for me
[03-Oct-2007 22:41:02] <mutil8> thats on a debian box
[03-Oct-2007 22:41:19] <mutil8> $ZENHOME/var/ is probably a better answer
[03-Oct-2007 22:42:06] <progma> mutil8: thanks!
[03-Oct-2007 22:42:42] <mutil8> np
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[04-Oct-2007 02:44:30] <Dan000892> good evening all!
[04-Oct-2007 02:45:41] <Dan000892> can anyone point me to some documentation defining/explaining the collector plugins?
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[04-Oct-2007 08:40:55] <Robbadub> hi
[04-Oct-2007 08:41:16] <Robbadub> I have trouble clearing the evntshistory
[04-Oct-2007 08:42:09] <Robbadub> The MySQL procedure with call clean_history(1) has an error with the total number of locks exceeds the lock table size
[04-Oct-2007 08:42:44] <Robbadub> I'm no DBA, system is short on diskspace, which is why I need to flush the history tabel
[04-Oct-2007 08:52:26] <Robbadub> Truncate table history does the trick
[04-Oct-2007 09:53:28] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[04-Oct-2007 09:54:00] <xinity_mbp> does anybody knows if an arbitrary custom command can be executed on alert ?
[04-Oct-2007 09:54:26] <xinity_mbp> i mean a event occur , it send an alert and then execute a custom command
[04-Oct-2007 09:54:35] <xinity_mbp> does anyone knows if it's possible ?
[04-Oct-2007 11:13:31] <imperfect-> Howdy
[04-Oct-2007 11:13:43] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I can turn off mail notifcation when I've moved events to history?
[04-Oct-2007 11:44:29] <Robbadub> Xinity: For commands to be executed you need to logon to the box you want to manage
[04-Oct-2007 11:44:44] <Robbadub> So first nake shure that you have credentials.
[04-Oct-2007 12:50:35] <Bulwinkle> mmmmmmm... hotgrits ... yummy
[04-Oct-2007 12:53:23] <Bulwinkle> even better hotgrits and fishstickz.... now that sounds like dinner
[04-Oct-2007 13:07:53] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[04-Oct-2007 13:09:10] <incorrect> is it possible monitor a service, like mysql in zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 13:11:54] <progma> incorrect: yup
[04-Oct-2007 13:14:01] <incorrect> what should i look at to configure that?
[04-Oct-2007 13:25:59] <progma> incorrect: is the device the mysql server is running on already in zenoss' device list?
[04-Oct-2007 13:27:16] <incorrect> no, it would be a remote tcp connection
[04-Oct-2007 13:27:43] <progma> incorrect: i mean, have you discovered or manually added the remote mysql server itself to the device list
[04-Oct-2007 13:27:57] <incorrect> if i was using nagios, i would write a script, something like mysql -e "show slave status" do something with the results and return 012
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:08] <progma> because zenoss should automagically populate the OS portion of the device entry with a process list
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:08] <incorrect> it was discovered
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:15] <incorrect> interesting
[04-Oct-2007 13:28:21] <incorrect> i will investigate
[04-Oct-2007 14:01:48] dschrockOut is now known as dschrock
[04-Oct-2007 14:19:50] <incorrect> i deleted a device and rescanned the network, however it didn't pick up it was running mysql
[04-Oct-2007 14:20:26] <dschrock> is mysql listening on that interface?
[04-Oct-2007 14:20:41] <dschrock> and does it allow connections?
[04-Oct-2007 14:33:51] <incorrect> will zenoss talk sql to mysql?
[04-Oct-2007 14:34:08] <incorrect> right now you can see 3306 listening
[04-Oct-2007 14:34:13] <incorrect> from the zenoss box
[04-Oct-2007 14:34:33] <MoreDakka> I love that name "incorrect"...I'm always reading your statements and questions as incorrect...haha
[04-Oct-2007 14:36:25] <incorrect>
[04-Oct-2007 14:36:29] <incorrect> i love confusing people
[04-Oct-2007 14:37:14] <incorrect> strange, on my local machine, if i snmpwalk i get over 3500 lines returned, if i walk a remote box i only get 2500
[04-Oct-2007 14:42:20] <dschrock> that doesn't mean much.. the local system and remote system are different, so the response will be different
[04-Oct-2007 14:42:41] <MoreDakka> What's the Nagios plugin that I can use to monitor PL?
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:03] <xoritor> good morning everyone
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:38] <xoritor> has anyone setup multiple zenoss monitors and gotten them to share information with each other?
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:47] <xoritor> ie.. distributed monitoring
[04-Oct-2007 15:06:58] <xoritor> are there any docs on how to do that?
[04-Oct-2007 15:08:27] <xoritor> is there anyway to get the network map flash thingy to show an entire /16 with multiple networks and the routing between them?
[04-Oct-2007 15:10:12] <Bulwinkle> xoritor: my standard answer to anyone asking for docs is no.... the documentation for zenoss is completely non-existant
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:05] <xoritor> LOL
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:09] <xoritor> that figures
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:10] <xoritor> ;-)
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:23] <xoritor> im re-reading the pdf in case there is something i missed
[04-Oct-2007 15:11:51] <dschrock> check the forums... there are a few posts about it
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:10] <dschrock> none are complete, but you may be able to stitch everything together and make it work
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:19] <xoritor> hehe
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:22] <xoritor> k
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:26] <xoritor> ill check there
[04-Oct-2007 15:12:33] <xoritor> didnt find much though
[04-Oct-2007 15:13:28] <dschrock> if you get it working and want to doc it, it would be appreciated. (i need that functionality as well, but don't have 2 boxes to do it with yet)
[04-Oct-2007 15:19:08] <xoritor> ill see what i can do
[04-Oct-2007 15:19:15] <xoritor> no promises though ;-)
[04-Oct-2007 15:40:41] <progma> if i want to run the zen daemons via shell, i.e. /opt/zenoss/bin/zeneventlog start|stop
[04-Oct-2007 15:40:55] <progma> what user should i do this as, or should it make any diff
[04-Oct-2007 15:44:19] <xoritor> progma: the user should be zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 15:45:46] <xoritor> progma: i usually do this "sudo su - zenoss"
[04-Oct-2007 15:46:01] <xoritor> before i run any commands like that
[04-Oct-2007 15:46:19] <xoritor> but you could do it just via sudo if your /etc/sudoers is setup right
[04-Oct-2007 15:46:56] <xoritor> ie.... sudo -u zenoss /opt/zenoss/bin/zeneventlog start
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:15] <xoritor> but then you have to setup your env to have the same stuff as is in the zenoss user env
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:34] <progma> if i run it as root, it still forks off the process as owned by zenoss (as long as i export $ZENHOME)
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:37] <xoritor> i find it easier to just "sudo su - zenoss" then run the commands
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:44] <xoritor> yea
[04-Oct-2007 15:48:57] <xoritor> export zenhome then it should work as pretty much any user
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:07] <progma> do you lock down the su command via sudoers? i haven't seen that before
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:11] <xoritor> i just dont like running things as root
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:24] <xoritor> some times
[04-Oct-2007 15:49:28] <xoritor> usually
[04-Oct-2007 15:50:13] <progma> true but the sh scripts seem to have su - <zenoss user> in them ; either way that is a good precaution
[04-Oct-2007 15:51:51] <progma> there's just some weirdness going on here where zeneventog stops after running for about 10 minutes, but if i manually kick it off as root it stays up
[04-Oct-2007 15:57:16] <incorrect> how can i collect the installed software?
[04-Oct-2007 16:01:54] <progma> incorrect: ?
[04-Oct-2007 16:03:22] <incorrect> there is a tab on a device profile that says software
[04-Oct-2007 16:03:29] <incorrect> how can i populate it?
[04-Oct-2007 16:07:49] <incorrect> oh it managed to get it for windows
[04-Oct-2007 16:07:50] <incorrect> thats cool
[04-Oct-2007 16:08:34] <incorrect> now for linux
[04-Oct-2007 16:17:54] <progma> no idea; how'd you get it to populate for windows?
[04-Oct-2007 16:22:53] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[04-Oct-2007 16:44:29] <incorrect> it just worked, i guess it got it via snmp
[04-Oct-2007 16:56:40] <MoreDakka> haha...still reading your name first.....
[04-Oct-2007 16:56:55] <MoreDakka> "incorrect it just worked, i guess it got it via snmp"
[04-Oct-2007 16:56:58] <MoreDakka> hehe
[04-Oct-2007 16:57:27] <MoreDakka> anyways my question -> What is your description of systems, locations and groups?
[04-Oct-2007 16:57:40] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to organize.
[04-Oct-2007 16:57:51] <MoreDakka> I'm thinking Locations is well, locations, physical
[04-Oct-2007 16:58:05] <MoreDakka> Systems and groups though, I'm not sure what they mean by those.
[04-Oct-2007 16:58:29] <kgoedtel> im using systems to organize virtual machines into systems as subsystems
[04-Oct-2007 16:58:47] <kgoedtel> works well for aggregate reports :]
[04-Oct-2007 16:59:11] <MoreDakka> So you have BOX1 and under BOX1 you'll have Windows, Linux..etc..etc.?
[04-Oct-2007 16:59:56] <kgoedtel> well im using xen, so it would be the equivalent of /dom0, /dom0/vm1, /dom0/vm2... etc
[04-Oct-2007 17:00:09] <MoreDakka> ah
[04-Oct-2007 17:00:36] <MoreDakka> What would someone use systems for if they don't have VMs? I could use groups as Company names...that might work.
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:01] <kgoedtel> thats what im using groups for
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:09] <kgoedtel> company or client names
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:46] <kgoedtel> and some clients have parent companies so it fits that paradigm well
[04-Oct-2007 17:01:55] <mutil8> i used systems for different departments
[04-Oct-2007 17:02:45] <kgoedtel> for me i would stick departments as a subset of a company in group
[04-Oct-2007 17:02:54] <MoreDakka> that's what I'm thinking.
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:09] <MoreDakka> So what can I use Systems for...
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:26] <kgoedtel> well, if you have a blade...
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:31] <MoreDakka> I could organize it by system type....we have Servers, Switches, Radios
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:45] <MoreDakka> then under each one have the manufactuer
[04-Oct-2007 17:03:58] <kgoedtel> you could depending on how you have already organized your devices... it may be redundant
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:04] <MoreDakka> manufacturer
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:26] <kgoedtel> for the most part it is only useful for running reports
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:31] <kgoedtel> so whatever fits your need
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:36] <MoreDakka> Well right now I don't really use groups or locations as I found them somewhat useless in version 1.1.1 (which is what I'm using right now)
[04-Oct-2007 17:04:53] <MoreDakka> So I'm thinking of re-organizing when v2.1 comes out
[04-Oct-2007 17:05:20] <MoreDakka> And if I can ever get the zen2dump.py and zen2load.py working.
[04-Oct-2007 17:13:35] <incorrect> zenoss is cool, i like not having to spend days and days configuring nagios
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:46] <kgoedtel> oh trust me you can spend days configuring zenoss :]
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:47] <xoritor> anyone gotten ldap auth to work?
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:59] <kgoedtel> months even
[04-Oct-2007 17:14:59] <MoreDakka> haha
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:07] <MoreDakka> Getting it to the way you want it.
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:22] <MoreDakka> But agreed that Zenoss is waaaay easier to configure then Nagios
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:41] <MoreDakka> I think Nagios is a more powerful monitoring tool in some ways though...Zenoss programmers are closing the gap though.
[04-Oct-2007 17:15:47] <kgoedtel> ive created 4 zenpacks, many templates, and now i am working on custom mibs/oids in snmpd
[04-Oct-2007 17:16:28] <incorrect> zenoss is using 4gb of ram
[04-Oct-2007 17:16:30] <incorrect> :S
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:22] <MoreDakka> What's the best site to go to find out what an OID is?
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:38] <snoozes> for windows?
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:39] <MoreDakka> mibdepot?
[04-Oct-2007 17:21:49] <MoreDakka> naw, a redline radio
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:13] <snoozes> not sure. I've just been using snmp-informant's site for windows OIDs.
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:33] <xoritor> grrr
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:35] <MoreDakka> bah, need to find what these OIDs are on RedLines and DragonWaves....
[04-Oct-2007 17:22:43] <xoritor> ldap auth is a PITA
[04-Oct-2007 17:23:21] <dschrock> do you have the dragonwave mib files?
[04-Oct-2007 17:24:12] <dschrock> we have a number of dragonwave links
[04-Oct-2007 17:25:44] <MoreDakka> Where can I find the DW MIBs? I'll put them into Zenoss but I need to know that information for Cacti as well.
[04-Oct-2007 17:25:51] <incorrect> is there a problem with python on amd64 bit platforms?
[04-Oct-2007 17:26:08] <dschrock> www.dragonwaveinc.com
[04-Oct-2007 17:26:24] <dschrock> under the support downloads
[04-Oct-2007 17:28:27] <MoreDakka> Hmmm....login...I'll have to find that information.
[04-Oct-2007 17:31:39] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[04-Oct-2007 17:38:50] <MoreDakka> dschrock: Do you use any redlines?
[04-Oct-2007 17:40:38] <dschrock> i think there are a few in the network somewhere, but not in my region
[04-Oct-2007 17:41:19] <MoreDakka> Hmm....Redline in google doesn't come up with much. I'm waiting for the login uid/pw for the Dragonwave site...
[04-Oct-2007 17:42:38] <mutil8> incorrect: you running on centos/redhat?
[04-Oct-2007 17:42:56] <dschrock> www.redlinecommunications.com
[04-Oct-2007 17:45:02] <incorrect> yes rhel 5
[04-Oct-2007 17:46:27] <mutil8> on my debian boxes i install ia32-libs, im sure there's something similar with rhel5
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:00] <mutil8> i don't know if zenoss requires them, because i install them first off on every amd64 install, but it may help if there's things that just don't quite work
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:01] <incorrect> yes i think there is
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:06] <incorrect> i hate rhel
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:07] <incorrect>
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:12] <mutil8> why use it then?
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:27] <incorrect> not my hoice
[04-Oct-2007 17:47:28] <incorrect> choice
[04-Oct-2007 17:49:01] <mutil8> heh, the distro of linux we use here is about the only thing i actually have a say in
[04-Oct-2007 17:49:24] <mutil8> they pretend to care what i say about other stuff, but pretty much ignore it
[04-Oct-2007 18:24:58] <xoritor> woo hooo
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:02] <xoritor> got ldap auth working
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:05] <wereshark> i'm getting this alert every 5 min "sendto error Host <zenoss server hostname> and <zenoss server full domain name> are both using
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:27] <xoritor> anyone know how to make zenoss ldap auth plugins pull the mail address for alerts from ldap
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:29] <wereshark> <ip address>
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:37] <xoritor> s/zenoss/zope/
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:48] <wereshark> xoritor: man that is awesome i hope to get that implemented also
[04-Oct-2007 18:25:57] <xoritor> wereshark: its really easy
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:04] <wereshark> suuure
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:19] <xoritor> the only bit that was even remotely tricky was making sure that MY objects were correct
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:29] <wereshark> if my zenoss server's device name is just the hostname, would it cause that error
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:41] <xoritor> install the python-ldap and untar two downloaded files pointed to in the howto
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:43] <wereshark> also, what should zenoss server's device name be, localhost?
[04-Oct-2007 18:26:47] <xoritor> follow the howto
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:02] <wereshark> xoritor: thanks!
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:10] <xoritor> my device name is my fqdn
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:18] <xoritor> but you have to have your monitor as "localhost"
[04-Oct-2007 18:27:37] <wereshark> ok
[04-Oct-2007 18:35:39] <wereshark> ok status monitor and performance monitor both are localhost
[04-Oct-2007 18:35:50] <wereshark> i should be able to change from hostname to fqdn in device list without a hitch, eh
[04-Oct-2007 18:36:43] <xoritor> yea i have it that way
[04-Oct-2007 18:37:50] <mutil8> you sure your dns is working properly on that box?
[04-Oct-2007 18:41:19] <xoritor> 512MB ram is NOT enough for zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 18:41:20] <xoritor> heh
[04-Oct-2007 18:41:38] <xoritor> not with mysql etc... all running on that host
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:01] <mutil8> im running it in a VM with a gig of ram
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:04] <mutil8> smooth as silk
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:11] <mutil8> but i only monitor about 40 devices
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:19] <xoritor> 2007-10-03 07:06:02 ERROR zen.Events: (1062, "Duplicate entry 'c0a8328c35dda980ffffffe' for key 1")
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:27] <xoritor> this is a horrible issue
[04-Oct-2007 18:43:56] <xoritor> i have had this on multiple occasions on multiple instances
[04-Oct-2007 18:45:23] <kgoedtel> anyone have experience with using 'pass' in snmpd?
[04-Oct-2007 18:45:36] <kgoedtel> i am getting the following error when walking my OID i created
[04-Oct-2007 18:45:41] <kgoedtel> "Error: OID not increasing"
[04-Oct-2007 18:50:03] <wereshark> mutil8: no, i'm not sure, checking now
[04-Oct-2007 18:51:30] <wereshark> is there a site that lists recommended backup strategies with zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 18:51:47] <wereshark> it looks like the eventlog is backed up nightly by default?
[04-Oct-2007 18:51:53] <kgoedtel> backup events db, backup $zenhome
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:06] <wereshark> what about putting something like
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:13] <wereshark> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenbackup --save-mysql-access --file=/opt/zenoss_zenbackup_`date +%h%d%Y`.sql
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:17] <wereshark> in cron.daily
[04-Oct-2007 18:55:36] <wereshark> that still doesn't back up $zenhome ?
[04-Oct-2007 18:57:57] <MoreDakka> Can the font size be lowered in the dashboard? Make the font and menus more like v.1.x?
[04-Oct-2007 18:58:43] <snoozes> Probably just need to tweak a stylesheet.
[04-Oct-2007 18:58:48] <snoozes> .css styles
[04-Oct-2007 19:22:50] <MoreDakka> thanks snoozes....
[04-Oct-2007 19:23:00] <MoreDakka> I'll have to look at that later.
[04-Oct-2007 19:23:11] <MoreDakka> Can Zenoss monitor Packet Loss?
[04-Oct-2007 19:36:29] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: interesting... i'm not quite sure how you'd do that
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:04] <MoreDakka> It would be nice. Nagios can monitor by default...I like the idea of getting a message if there is more than 50% PL on the line.
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:22] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: what's your agent os for this? Linux?
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:30] <xoritor> argh
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:37] <xoritor> mysql socket issues
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:48] <xoritor> could that be because i only have 512 MB ram
[04-Oct-2007 19:37:49] <xoritor> ?
[04-Oct-2007 19:38:09] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: if nagios could do it, I almost have to assume it's part of net-snmp
[04-Oct-2007 19:38:31] <xoritor> no errors in any of the mysql.og / messages / audit.log etc...
[04-Oct-2007 19:38:43] <xoritor> and the socket exists
[04-Oct-2007 19:39:07] <MoreDakka> Dan: FC4 or CentOS 5
[04-Oct-2007 19:40:43] <MoreDakka> Yay first post about Beta 2.0.92 :-D
[04-Oct-2007 19:40:57] <MoreDakka> well sorta ":-D" I was hoping that the problem would have been resolved.
[04-Oct-2007 19:56:16] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[04-Oct-2007 20:03:57] <Dan000892> MoreDakka: i dunno... i'd do an snmpwalk to see if i could locate it
[04-Oct-2007 20:04:46] <MoreDakka> Does SNMP track that information?
[04-Oct-2007 20:05:14] <Dan000892> Not sure that's why i'd walk it
[04-Oct-2007 20:05:42] <Dan000892> it gets errors by interface
[04-Oct-2007 20:05:48] <Dan000892> not sure what else
[04-Oct-2007 20:06:33] <Dan000892> SNMP Informant Advanced for windows passes atPacketsDropped
[04-Oct-2007 20:06:43] <Dan000892> if it can (and does), Net-SNMP might too
[04-Oct-2007 21:12:30] <cioj> Hello, does anyone have time for a quick question about loading devices through REST?
[04-Oct-2007 21:49:04] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[04-Oct-2007 22:36:19] <mutil8> anybody know if it's possible to monitor current users, and other things of that nature for IIS?
[04-Oct-2007 22:37:03] <kgoedtel> like usernames?
[04-Oct-2007 22:37:23] <kgoedtel> because as far as i know, zenoss really cant take any custom strings
[04-Oct-2007 22:37:54] <mutil8> well, we have a couple public web servers, i'd like to see how many concurent users
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:19] <kgoedtel> i dont think that functionality is built in
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:24] <kgoedtel> but you can do it 2 other ways
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:28] <kgoedtel> well
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:28] <kgoedtel> 3
[04-Oct-2007 22:38:53] <kgoedtel> a command, a custom zenpack, or directly through snmp using your own agent
[04-Oct-2007 22:44:16] <mutil8> hmm
[04-Oct-2007 22:48:11] <mutil8> i see there's an httpmonitor zenpack on the zenoss site
[04-Oct-2007 22:49:55] <Dislo> hey guys what is the default password for the rra admin console on 2.0.91
[04-Oct-2007 22:56:50] <fishstickz> haha, south park this week was awesome
[04-Oct-2007 22:57:21] <fishstickz> whoa
[04-Oct-2007 22:57:23] <fishstickz> wrong channel
[04-Oct-2007 22:57:52] <Dislo> fishstickz, well that is unfortunate i was going to talk with you about south park
[04-Oct-2007 22:58:01] <fishstickz> haha
[04-Oct-2007 22:58:22] <fishstickz> I'm in too many IRC channels... it was bound to happen eventually
[04-Oct-2007 22:59:04] <Dislo> fishstickz, it gets everyone everyonce in a while
[04-Oct-2007 22:59:14] <Dislo> hey guys what is the default password for the rra admin console on 2.0.91
[04-Oct-2007 22:59:55] <fishstickz> Isn't it just admin/admin?
[04-Oct-2007 23:01:27] <Dislo> fishstickz, nope
[04-Oct-2007 23:01:37] <fishstickz> hm
[04-Oct-2007 23:11:13] <Dislo> fishstickz, nope
[04-Oct-2007 23:11:18] <Dislo> hey guys what is the default password for the rra admin console on 2.0.91
[04-Oct-2007 23:11:43] <Dislo> fishstickz, sorry about that slip of the finger
[04-Oct-2007 23:14:28] <mutil8> admin zenoss
[04-Oct-2007 23:14:32] <mutil8> ?
[04-Oct-2007 23:14:51] <Dislo> the rra console not the zenoss console
[04-Oct-2007 23:15:53] <kgoedtel> rra?
[04-Oct-2007 23:15:59] <kgoedtel> whats be this
[04-Oct-2007 23:16:43] <kgoedtel> all i know for rra is the rrd archives
[04-Oct-2007 23:16:56] <Dislo> kgoedtel, if you are using the appliences vs actually installing it like i am because i am lazy and only need to have a few things monitored
[04-Oct-2007 23:17:13] <Dislo> yeah i just looked at their wiki and there was the answer
[04-Oct-2007 23:18:43] <kgoedtel> i still don't get it
[04-Oct-2007 23:46:53] <Dan000892> HELP!
[04-Oct-2007 23:47:11] <Dan000892> I think my database is royally screwed...
[04-Oct-2007 23:47:47] <Dan000892> I've been adding devices this week without problems
[04-Oct-2007 23:48:05] <Dan000892> but now I try to add another or re-model one of my recent devices and I get a slew of errors
[04-Oct-2007 23:48:19] <Dan000892> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py", line 168, in removeForwardIndexEntry indexRow.remove(documentId) KeyError: 1877707186 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py", line 168, in removeForwardIndexEntry indexRow.remove(documentId) KeyError: 1877707192 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Pr
[04-Oct-2007 23:49:07] <Dan000892> and some nice Zope errors: ERROR Zope.UnIndex FieldIndex: unindex_object could not remove documentId 1877707192 from index monitored. This should not happen.
[04-Oct-2007 23:49:36] <Dan000892> It's really the "This should not happen." part that strikes fear.
[04-Oct-2007 23:50:10] <mutil8> ahah
[04-Oct-2007 23:50:55] <Dan000892> it even tells me it collected snmp info for two different devices which leads me to believe that something may be incorrectly linked in the database
[04-Oct-2007 23:51:15] <Dan000892> but I don't know how to go about finding the problem and fixing it... this is under 2.0.6
[04-Oct-2007 23:56:41] <Dan000892> anyone willing to take a stab?
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[05-Oct-2007 01:06:34] <bisbebri> Hey all
[05-Oct-2007 01:06:46] <bisbebri> is there any one here who could possibily help me?
[05-Oct-2007 01:54:49] <mutil8> bisbebri: whatcha need?
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[05-Oct-2007 11:51:15] <pablo26> hi all
[05-Oct-2007 11:52:44] <pablo26> the other day i modified the email template, now when i get message the ipAdress field does not appear and now its not clearing the disk space usage tresholds
[05-Oct-2007 12:19:25] <pablo27> hi
[05-Oct-2007 12:19:59] <pablo27> anyone is having problem with the clear events of disk space treshold? i'm not getting them
[05-Oct-2007 12:33:09] <pablo27> anyone know how to change the base addres of zenoss, when it sends mails the links are http://192.168.0.234:8080/.. and i want to chage that
[05-Oct-2007 12:33:44] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[05-Oct-2007 13:08:21] <imperfect-> Anyone know how i can get zenoss to give me a like
[05-Oct-2007 13:08:40] <imperfect-> port status page for a particular switch so that I dont have to click on each port to get a graph?
[05-Oct-2007 13:31:44] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[05-Oct-2007 14:05:35] <auonline> Hello?
[05-Oct-2007 14:07:47] <auonline> I see a service class of zport/dmd/Services/IpService/Privileged/serviceclasses/ftp
[05-Oct-2007 14:08:13] <auonline> Can this somehow be used to monitor open ftp ports?
[05-Oct-2007 14:12:15] <auonline> Hello Bulwinkle
[05-Oct-2007 14:12:24] <Bulwinkle> hi auonline
[05-Oct-2007 14:12:52] <auonline> you here to ask/monitor or assist?
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:05] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle likes to just hang out ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:18] <Bulwinkle> auonline: yes
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:39] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka likes to be a pain in the butt
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:48] <MoreDakka> :-/ haha....it's sorta true
[05-Oct-2007 14:13:59] <auonline> do you guys use zenoss?
[05-Oct-2007 14:14:15] <Bulwinkle> yes
[05-Oct-2007 14:14:20] <MoreDakka> yep
[05-Oct-2007 14:14:56] <auonline> use it for monitoring availability of services such as ftp?
[05-Oct-2007 14:15:02] <auonline> on another server
[05-Oct-2007 14:15:31] <Bulwinkle> auonline: yes
[05-Oct-2007 14:16:18] <auonline> I hope you can help...I've setup Zenoss ... snmp works...
[05-Oct-2007 14:16:41] <auonline> I think I can use a service class onto a device that I've added but can't see how to link it
[05-Oct-2007 14:17:01] <auonline> another words...I can't monitor when my ftp service is down
[05-Oct-2007 14:17:50] <auonline> how did you set it up on yours Bulwinkle? SNMP?
[05-Oct-2007 14:17:58] <MoreDakka> Zenoss can monitor that service in the OS tab. Bulwinkle will probably be able to explain better.
[05-Oct-2007 14:18:15] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: no, no, go ahead....
[05-Oct-2007 14:18:45] <MoreDakka> haha
[05-Oct-2007 14:18:47] <MoreDakka> fine fine.
[05-Oct-2007 14:19:53] <MoreDakka> Open the OS tab of the system you want to monitor. click on the upside-down triangle next to "IP Services". Type FTP in the box and select TCP. Hit OK...vioala, Zenoss is monitoring it ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 14:20:53] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle: Can the Abailability counters be reset?
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:05] <MoreDakka> The Availability even
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:35] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: dunno.... should be able to be
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:45] <auonline> hmmm... don't see it...using 2.06 In main views I click Device List
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:58] <auonline> then my device
[05-Oct-2007 14:21:59] <Bulwinkle> to be honest, I'm not really working with Zenoss that much any more
[05-Oct-2007 14:22:23] <auonline> then OS
[05-Oct-2007 14:22:50] <auonline> I do see two upside down triangles...One by Interfaces and one by Routes
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:21] <MoreDakka> damn
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:25] <MoreDakka> haha....I'm on 2.0.92
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:28] <MoreDakka> or v1.1.1
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:42] <MoreDakka> so you, being right in between I'm missing what you are seeing
[05-Oct-2007 14:23:54] <auonline> ah...good...I have 2.0.92 running too...
[05-Oct-2007 14:24:15] <auonline> got desperate hoping it would have more features..
[05-Oct-2007 14:24:39] <MoreDakka> Zenoss has a wack of features...you should go through the guide and see what you can use.
[05-Oct-2007 14:25:10] <MoreDakka> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=zenoss&filename=ZenossAdminGuide2-0.pdf.zip&use_mirror=superb-east
[05-Oct-2007 14:25:24] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Downloading ... (at sourceforge.net)
[05-Oct-2007 14:25:52] <MoreDakka> Thanks bot....sooooo useful
[05-Oct-2007 14:31:02] <auonline> I've gone through the doc before and now again it looks like I have to use CLI
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:04] <auonline> both on 2.06 and 2.09 I try zenstatus and they return the error permission denied bin/bash
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:25] <auonline> and no such file for bin/zenfuncitons
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:33] <auonline> tried as root and zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:47] <MoreDakka> Heh if there are errors I'm at a loss...I have a good set of my own errors I'm having the devs look at :-/
[05-Oct-2007 14:32:54] <MoreDakka> srry
[05-Oct-2007 14:33:42] <auonline> on your 2.09, are you monitoring stuff via non SNMP?
[05-Oct-2007 14:34:14] <auonline> if so, can you please verify it can only be done via some cli commands?
[05-Oct-2007 14:40:39] <MoreDakka> on 2.0.92 I've only got a few test machines on there but everything is monitored with icmp and some are monitored with snmp. Is that your question?
[05-Oct-2007 14:44:36] <auonline> Thank bulwinkle and moredakka...got it throught the instructions above.... OS ip services add ip services
[05-Oct-2007 14:45:14] <MoreDakka> Ah good. It's somewhat different then v2.1
[05-Oct-2007 14:45:26] <auonline> 2.0.92 has it but the 2.0.6 doesn't????
[05-Oct-2007 14:51:16] <auonline> Found the issue...on the 2.0.6 it did not autoadd http and thus it did not have the IPServices table.
[05-Oct-2007 14:52:15] <auonline> In 2.0.6 I was still able to add ftp via the upsidedown arrow next to status add add ipinterface
[05-Oct-2007 14:52:46] <auonline> Voila...IP Services section is now there and contains ftp
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:13] <auonline> Just finished testing it on failure...got it to restart my ftp service via "Event Manager" "Commands"
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:24] <auonline> Thanks again
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:36] <MoreDakka> I think (haven't played with it yet) but on the left menu if you click on services and find the service that you want zenoss to monitor automatically you can find it, turn it to "true" then when it models a device it will search for all the "true" and automatically set them up for monitoring.
[05-Oct-2007 14:54:37] <MoreDakka> I think
[05-Oct-2007 14:55:34] <auonline> I don't think so...that is what I was trying before...but let me verify on both versions
[05-Oct-2007 14:56:13] <auonline> hmmm...models a device...I saw that when I was inside of a device...
[05-Oct-2007 14:57:13] <auonline> yep...under manage...what does model a device mean
[05-Oct-2007 15:00:05] <auonline> made service check as true...then manage model device...did not add it on 2.0.6
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:26] <mutil8> auonline: are you able to get stats from your http services? such as concurent users, etc?
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:35] <incorrect> i am going round setting what services to be monitored on each host
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:38] <incorrect> this is taking forever
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:51] <mutil8> use a template if they're are some common ones
[05-Oct-2007 15:01:53] <incorrect> can i create a template or a profile of some type
[05-Oct-2007 15:02:24] <incorrect> where do i configure templates?
[05-Oct-2007 15:02:57] <mutil8> sec
[05-Oct-2007 15:04:05] <mutil8> there's a 'template' tab on each device, and device grouping
[05-Oct-2007 15:04:21] <mutil8> so if you go to /devices/server/windows you can set up templates for all of them i believe
[05-Oct-2007 15:04:51] <mutil8> that my just be for perf monitoring though
[05-Oct-2007 15:05:05] <incorrect> i got it
[05-Oct-2007 15:08:56] <incorrect> is there a howto to get hardware information monitored on dell?
[05-Oct-2007 15:09:10] <incorrect> wow that was good engrish
[05-Oct-2007 15:11:43] <auonline> mutil8: No...it's just an IP service...I'm not getting it through syslog or snmp
[05-Oct-2007 15:13:30] <progma> incorrect: what kind of dells
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:07] <incorrect> 1950
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:10] <incorrect> power edge
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:18] <progma> incorrect: do you have omsa installed
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:22] <incorrect> i've got drac's and omsa installed
[05-Oct-2007 15:14:50] <incorrect> i've installed the mib's from the /opt/dell dir
[05-Oct-2007 15:15:59] <progma> incorrect: can you snmpwalk it
[05-Oct-2007 15:16:53] <incorrect> stupid question, does omsa run its own snmpd ?
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:13] <progma> incorrect: nope, it modifies existing snmpd
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:29] <incorrect> uh oh
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:41] <progma> incorrect: not sure about 1950 but i've done it with 2650 and 2850
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:41] <mutil8> what is omsa?
[05-Oct-2007 15:17:43] <incorrect> i think ill need to go find fresh install
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:04] <incorrect> dell's open manage something or other
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:14] <incorrect> allows you to get hardware info
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:19] <mutil8> ah
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:49] <mutil8> i should look into that, all my servers are dells
[05-Oct-2007 15:18:59] <mutil8> 1950's and 1855/1955
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:14] <incorrect> its really good
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:29] <incorrect> not as good as hp's ilo
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:30] <incorrect> so im told
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:41] <incorrect> it can send snmp traps
[05-Oct-2007 15:19:49] <incorrect> not that i've ever had it working
[05-Oct-2007 15:20:13] <mutil8> i'd like to find a way to monitor concurrent connections in IIS
[05-Oct-2007 15:23:18] <kgoedtel> im doing things like that using pass in snmpd
[05-Oct-2007 15:23:26] <kgoedtel> so i can make my own oids
[05-Oct-2007 15:24:02] <kgoedtel> using pass and a good bit of perl, pretty much anything is possible
[05-Oct-2007 15:25:01] <mutil8> i may have to look into that once i get the basics going
[05-Oct-2007 15:25:37] <kgoedtel> right now i am trying to get this snmp module for apache2
[05-Oct-2007 15:26:29] <kgoedtel> having issues compiling snmp with it under solaris unfortunately
[05-Oct-2007 15:30:21] <incorrect> how does zenoss collect what software is installed?
[05-Oct-2007 15:33:56] <pablo27> anyone is having this issue when a treshold eventb(in my case disk space) occurs then when its solved the clear event does not appear
[05-Oct-2007 15:35:45] <incorrect> don't know how to setup threshold events yet
[05-Oct-2007 15:38:06] <incorrect> ah well i did something and got more information over snmp
[05-Oct-2007 15:41:16] <incorrect> for some reason one box i have returns over 3000 lines when i snmpwalk it
[05-Oct-2007 15:41:24] <incorrect> and other boxes only return 2000
[05-Oct-2007 15:44:23] <mutil8> holy crap
[05-Oct-2007 15:44:29] <mutil8> 3000 returns for an snmp walk
[05-Oct-2007 15:44:55] <incorrect> is that a lot?
[05-Oct-2007 15:45:14] <incorrect> 3406, is that i got last
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:04] <mutil8> seems like a lot to me
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:17] <kgoedtel> seems fairly normal to me
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:26] <kgoedtel> for a linux machine
[05-Oct-2007 15:54:58] <kgoedtel> so, tacos next friday i heard
[05-Oct-2007 15:55:15] <mutil8> hmm, i haven't walked one of my linux boxes
[05-Oct-2007 15:55:22] <mutil8> im pretty sure i don't get that much from my windows machines
[05-Oct-2007 16:03:00] <xoritor> ok its 1000% official now
[05-Oct-2007 16:03:23] <xoritor> ldap group mapping in zenoss is h0rked
[05-Oct-2007 16:03:25] <xoritor> ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:10] <MoreDakka> That's a cool word....h0rked.
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:23] <xoritor> heh
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:40] <xoritor> cause im such an uber cool dude ;-) </sarcasm>
[05-Oct-2007 16:05:43] <MoreDakka> Didn't know it was multipurpose.
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:02] <xoritor> heh
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:29] <MoreDakka> "My Cat h0rked up a hairball" "My Computer h0rked, I can't use it anymore"...haha
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:38] <xoritor> hehehe
[05-Oct-2007 16:06:55] <xoritor> the intranetwebthingy h0rked up my life!
[05-Oct-2007 16:07:17] <xoritor> it is very versitile!
[05-Oct-2007 16:07:34] * xoritor has no life
[05-Oct-2007 16:07:46] * xoritor 's life is h0rked
[05-Oct-2007 16:08:04] <xoritor> ok ok ok... ill stop im h0rking it up anyways
[05-Oct-2007 16:08:54] <xoritor> so i have ldap auth working, but only minimally
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:10] <xoritor> it gets the uid/pass stuff and auths
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:26] <xoritor> and zope pulls the groups
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:29] <incorrect> h0rk3d?
[05-Oct-2007 16:09:59] <xoritor> its mapped in zope itaustin -> zenmanager
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:00] <incorrect> what happened to b0rk3d?
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:16] <xoritor> b0rk3d got h0rk3d
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:24] <xoritor> by m0rk
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:32] <xoritor> while m1ndy was out
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:47] <MoreDakka> He ch0rked on a carrot then h0rked a b0rk
[05-Oct-2007 16:10:50] <kgoedtel> i b0rk3d my c0mpukt0rb
[05-Oct-2007 16:11:07] <MoreDakka> pukt0rb
[05-Oct-2007 16:11:15] <MoreDakka> clever
[05-Oct-2007 16:11:59] <xoritor> MoreDakka: more like cleaver
[05-Oct-2007 16:13:20] <xoritor> funny thing is if you create a user in zenoss then they auth via ldap everything works pretty good
[05-Oct-2007 16:13:38] <xoritor> but if you just let a user auth via ldap then things are a bit screwy
[05-Oct-2007 16:14:29] <xoritor> ie... they get only anonymous perms and no group mapping pulls through even if you define it in zope
[05-Oct-2007 16:22:13] <incorrect> does anyone know how to get the installed software from linux?
[05-Oct-2007 16:22:51] <xoritor> depends on the distro
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:06] <xoritor> rpm based ones you can do " rpm -qa"
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:08] <incorrect> well, i assume i need to write a script i
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:17] <xoritor> debain based ones "dpkg -l"
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:26] <xoritor> source based ones vary
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:30] <incorrect> i was wondering more, how do i return this to zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:32] <xoritor> some you cant
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:48] <xoritor> oh... cant help you there as i have not looked into that yet ;-)
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:48] <xoritor> hehe
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:51] <incorrect> ok assume i know my package manager
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:56] <incorrect>
[05-Oct-2007 16:23:58] <incorrect> fair enough
[05-Oct-2007 16:24:01] <incorrect> thanks
[05-Oct-2007 16:24:19] <xoritor> you can prolly pull them from snmp aslo
[05-Oct-2007 16:24:45] <incorrect> ok next dumb question, do i have the plugins if i have installed 2.0.6
[05-Oct-2007 16:25:07] <xoritor> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSWRunParameters.4174 = STRING: "rpm"
[05-Oct-2007 16:25:07] <incorrect> yeah i just don't know what to configure for snmpd.conf
[05-Oct-2007 16:25:11] <xoritor> there is something for that
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:10] <xoritor> hrSWInstalledName
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:17] <xoritor> hrSWInstalledIndex
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:21] <xoritor> maybe
[05-Oct-2007 16:28:22] <xoritor> hmm
[05-Oct-2007 16:32:46] <incorrect> sorry, but do you get the zenoss plugins by default in the latest version?
[05-Oct-2007 16:34:57] <xoritor> im using snmp for everything really so far
[05-Oct-2007 16:35:01] <xoritor> so i cant tell ya
[05-Oct-2007 16:35:11] <incorrect> no worries
[05-Oct-2007 16:57:29] <xoritor> odd
[05-Oct-2007 16:57:45] <xoritor> when i remove ldap auth and remove my zenoss user
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:08] <xoritor> then add the zenoss user back, it keeps my old settings
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:53] <xoritor> i have made sure that the account is not there by trying to log in "
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:53] <xoritor> The entered password or
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:53] <xoritor> username is incorrect.
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:55] <xoritor> "
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:57] <xoritor> heh
[05-Oct-2007 16:58:59] <xoritor> sorry
[05-Oct-2007 17:40:43] <pablo27> is any way to change the site url? i have an apache proxy, i get to the log in but in the next step or in the mail notifications i get the internal addres http://192.168.0.242:8080 instead of monitor.mysite.com
[05-Oct-2007 17:41:21] <kgoedtel> yep
[05-Oct-2007 17:41:58] <kgoedtel> in zenaction config file
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:00] <kgoedtel> add
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:09] <kgoedtel> zopeurl http://monitor.mysite.com:8080
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:12] <kgoedtel> or whatever
[05-Oct-2007 17:42:23] <pablo27> tanks!
[05-Oct-2007 17:47:12] <pablo27> zenaction.conf is empy do i edit zope.conf?
[05-Oct-2007 17:48:11] <kgoedtel> no
[05-Oct-2007 17:48:17] <kgoedtel> put it in zenactions.conf
[05-Oct-2007 17:48:33] <kgoedtel> it should be empty by default
[05-Oct-2007 17:49:48] <pablo27> naad what services do i have to restar?
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:09] <kgoedtel> probably just zenactions
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:25] <kgoedtel> at least for the email to have the right link
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:27] <pablo27> ok
[05-Oct-2007 17:50:53] <pablo27> do u have any idea why its not clearing the events generated by tresholds, for example disk treshold
[05-Oct-2007 17:51:44] <kgoedtel> nope, never had that problem
[05-Oct-2007 17:58:03] <pablo27> i'm using the default template its strange
[05-Oct-2007 17:58:42] <kgoedtel> are the events actually clearning? or you are just not getting an email?
[05-Oct-2007 17:58:49] <kgoedtel> clearing*
[05-Oct-2007 18:03:37] <pablo27> they are not clearing
[05-Oct-2007 18:04:02] <pablo27> i have to send them to history manually
[05-Oct-2007 18:04:35] <kgoedtel> very strange
[05-Oct-2007 18:05:58] <pablo27> and also in that mail i dont see the ipAddress field but i found that as a bug
[05-Oct-2007 18:08:52] <pablo27> the value is ok u go to the properties and u see it right
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[05-Oct-2007 18:55:36] <mutil8> who was monitoring the poweredge servers?
[05-Oct-2007 19:18:02] <pablo27> i have some poweredge servers mutil8
[05-Oct-2007 20:41:54] <progma> mutil8: i've monitored poweredges, although i haven't done it with zenoss (yet)
[05-Oct-2007 20:42:57] <progma> i mainly wanted to use the temperature sensors on the poweredges that are enabled via ipmi
[05-Oct-2007 20:42:57] <progma> the omsa sets up snmpd.conf such that each sensor has an oid
[05-Oct-2007 20:42:58] <progma> and it graphed like a champ in cacti and i set up alerting in zabbix for thresholds
[05-Oct-2007 20:43:23] <mutil8> yeah, i'd like to monitor the temps
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[05-Oct-2007 20:46:24] <mutil8> we're running some dell blades too, and i can see all kinds of great info if i log into the chassis, i'd like to get that stuff inside Zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 20:47:03] <bisbebri> hey all
[05-Oct-2007 20:47:11] <bisbebri> could i get some help if possible
[05-Oct-2007 20:48:17] <mutil8> ask away
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:16] <progma> mutil8: i'm in a new place where they have the newer poweredges, so maybe we can collab at some point
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:44] <bisbebri> i am using the windows version
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:46] <bisbebri> in vmware...
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:48] <bisbebri> adn I cant login
[05-Oct-2007 20:49:56] <bisbebri> using admin and zenoss as the password
[05-Oct-2007 20:50:15] <bisbebri> When i go to https://192.168.1.78:8003
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:25] <bisbebri> I get the rpath appliance webpage thing
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:25] <mutil8> that's for the console login
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:34] <mutil8> the zenoss page is at port 8080
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:39] <bisbebri> ahhhh
[05-Oct-2007 20:51:49] <bisbebri> its starting back up so i can try
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:05] <mutil8> im interested to see how you like that VM
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:15] <mutil8> i'm running it in a VM, but i installed it myself
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:35] <bisbebri> vmware seems more convenient for me...
[05-Oct-2007 20:52:49] <mutil8> im running it in vmware
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:01] <mutil8> but i installed everything myself, instead of running that downloadable image
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:44] <bisbebri> that worked! thanks
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:48] <bisbebri> whats this rpath appliance
[05-Oct-2007 20:53:55] <mutil8> those are the people that setup that VM
[05-Oct-2007 20:54:18] <bisbebri> ah
[05-Oct-2007 20:55:15] <mutil8> progma: so if i have the dell open manager installed, i should be able to use SNMP to pull in the info it's reading from the sensor right?
[05-Oct-2007 20:59:20] <bisbebri> Can I make this scan my network and find devices
[05-Oct-2007 21:00:33] <mutil8> should be able to
[05-Oct-2007 21:00:39] <mutil8> add a network, and then select it and scan it
[05-Oct-2007 21:01:30] <bisbebri> Click Networks?
[05-Oct-2007 21:01:57] <mutil8> what release are you using?
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:01] <mutil8> 2.0.6 or 2.0.91
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:06] <bisbebri> and it sees my network but it only shows 2 things
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:07] <bisbebri> uhhh
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:13] <bisbebri> 2.06
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:21] <bisbebri> 2.0.6*
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:29] <mutil8> you should be able to select a network
[05-Oct-2007 21:02:35] <mutil8> and then 'discover device'
[05-Oct-2007 21:03:16] <bisbebri> Where is that at?
[05-Oct-2007 21:03:46] <mutil8> the down arrow next to 'subnetworks'
[05-Oct-2007 21:04:58] <progma> mutil8: yes
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:16] <bisbebri> i clicked it.... and i guess its doing it
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:18] <progma> mutil8: i forget where dell puts the mibs
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:35] <progma> mutil8: the linux-poweredge mailing list is a great resource
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:47] <mutil8> i've got the MIBs
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:51] <mutil8> and they're loaded in zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 21:05:59] <mutil8> but how do i see this info when i look at the server?
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:19] <progma> mutil8: did you setup the omsa web interface?
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:23] <mutil8> yep
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:34] <mutil8> logged in and looking now
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:42] <progma> you can see temps in there
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:47] <mutil8> yes
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:58] <mutil8> can that be pulled into zenoss?
[05-Oct-2007 21:07:59] <progma> also you can cmd line with ipmitool
[05-Oct-2007 21:08:20] <progma> i assume, i haven't done it yet but as long as you have snmp working it ought to work with zenoss
[05-Oct-2007 21:08:55] <progma> and of course you can just snmpwalk the mib
[05-Oct-2007 21:11:30] <mutil8> ok, i can walk it
[05-Oct-2007 21:11:48] <mutil8> maybe im missing something in the docs, or need to re-read them
[05-Oct-2007 21:12:08] <mutil8> i can snmpwalk it from the command line, but i'm not sure how i make zenoss do it through the web interface
[05-Oct-2007 21:12:14] <progma> me too hehe
[05-Oct-2007 21:21:14] <MoreDakka_> omg I hate it when client's connections go down and the ISP tells me one thing then 45 minutes later tell me something else...bah.
[05-Oct-2007 21:22:16] <bisbebri> Same thing happens to me too
[05-Oct-2007 21:22:53] <MoreDakka_> "Yeah the ticket has been assigned to a tech and he'll be out there in the next couple hours"....."No this ticket hasn't been assigned yet"...omg.
[05-Oct-2007 21:23:54] <mutil8> progma: i'll see how much of this i can get setup, and try and get a zenpack to you for monitoring temps
[05-Oct-2007 21:38:44] <dschrock> ~.~.
[05-Oct-2007 21:47:45] <mutil8> so who's made there own graphs for performance
[05-Oct-2007 21:47:50] <mutil8> i need some help on the format field
[05-Oct-2007 21:48:19] <mutil8> the OID im querying is going to return a temp in celsius
[05-Oct-2007 21:48:28] <mutil8> with a value like 280
[05-Oct-2007 21:48:33] <mutil8> which is 28.0 C
[05-Oct-2007 21:49:08] <mutil8> so what do i need to put in the format field to get 280 to come out as 28.0?
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[06-Oct-2007 17:27:35] <mutil8> anybody monitoring stats from iis with zenoss?
[06-Oct-2007 18:56:53] <rfoust> Hi all..i'm a nagios user trying out zenoss... Am I supposed to be able to monitor windows servers with WMI without having to install something on the windows box?
[06-Oct-2007 18:59:30] <mutil8> i haven't got that far, but from what i've read, if you enable the WMI service on the box, and have the correct username/passwords setup in zenoss, it should work
[06-Oct-2007 18:59:45] <mutil8> im doing all my monitoring with SNMP at this point
[06-Oct-2007 19:01:47] <rfoust> yeah i've been using only snmp from nagios and snmp-informant on windows, but snmp-informant has a memory leak that i haven't been able to track down.
was hoping to move to wmi-only.[06-Oct-2007 19:03:55] <mutil8> really... i haven't seen that, i'll have to keep an eye out for it
[06-Oct-2007 19:05:22] <mutil8> have you checked the forums?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:12] <rfoust> i've talked to the developer a few time. apparently i'm the only one seeing the problem. He thinks its a bug in microsoft's snmp service, and from what i've seen i think he may be right.
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:26] <mutil8> what OS are you noticing this on?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:28] <rfoust> haven't had any significant time to really troubleshoot it though
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:35] <rfoust> w2k3
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:43] <rfoust> sp1/sp2
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:45] <mutil8> r2?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:49] <mutil8> 32/64?
[06-Oct-2007 19:06:55] <rfoust> no, r1 32bit
[06-Oct-2007 19:07:40] <rfoust> i've seen the leak on about 6 out of 120 servers
[06-Oct-2007 19:07:56] <rfoust> not sure what the trigger is
[06-Oct-2007 19:08:18] <mutil8> hmm
[06-Oct-2007 19:08:26] <mutil8> i only have 1 r1 32bit
[06-Oct-2007 19:08:30] <mutil8> let me take a quick look
[06-Oct-2007 19:09:28] <mutil8> don't see anything strange on it
[06-Oct-2007 19:09:40] <mutil8> only 1 of my 40 is r1
[06-Oct-2007 19:09:50] <mutil8> infact, it's the only 32 bit i have left
[06-Oct-2007 19:10:14] <rfoust> i need to take a closer look at 64 bit
[06-Oct-2007 19:10:38] <rfoust> i guess 32 bit apps will work on it...
[06-Oct-2007 19:11:22] <mutil8> the majority of them do
[06-Oct-2007 19:11:44] <mutil8> we went to 64bit because the memory management
[06-Oct-2007 19:12:00] <mutil8> we run a lot of ms sql servers, and you get quite a performance boost in 64bit over 32
[06-Oct-2007 19:12:27] <rfoust> interesting...i have about 10 sql servers running but they have very low load
[06-Oct-2007 19:12:50] <mutil8> most of mine are overloaded as they are, and they're pretty good machines
[06-Oct-2007 19:14:34] <mutil8> dual xeon 5160's with 16-32gb of ram
[06-Oct-2007 19:14:48] <mutil8> i've got 2 of them sitting at like 200-500mb of free memory
[06-Oct-2007 19:15:23] <mutil8> are you monitoring any IIS stats with nagios and snmp?
[06-Oct-2007 19:15:44] <mutil8> i've been trying to find a way to get current users and a few other things from SNMP, not sure if it's possible or not
[06-Oct-2007 19:16:54] <rfoust> I think I'm getting some graph data in Cacti using snmp-informant
[06-Oct-2007 19:17:04] <rfoust> you have snmp-informant on your servers?
[06-Oct-2007 19:17:58] <rfoust> I think the only IIS-related thing I'm monitoring in nagios right now is just check_tcp on port 80. lol
[06-Oct-2007 19:18:18] <mutil8> yeah
[06-Oct-2007 19:18:43] <mutil8> well, if you're doing it in cacti with snmp, i should be able to pull that into zenoss
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[07-Oct-2007 00:57:57] <bkingx> Hi all! Need help setting up mail notification.
[07-Oct-2007 01:16:05] <bkingx> OK, got the mail problem fixed. I did not need to use a username and password.
[07-Oct-2007 01:16:29] <bkingx> So next question, When is Zenoss going to implement Jabber notifications?
[07-Oct-2007 01:55:00] <mutil8> thats a pretty good idea
[07-Oct-2007 01:55:15] <mutil8> i'd like to see it send an sms notification as well
[07-Oct-2007 02:27:18] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: there is a place on the website for enhancements
[07-Oct-2007 02:53:36] <mutil8> have to check it out
[07-Oct-2007 03:45:43] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: yeah..... there is a lot of stuff there except documentation
[07-Oct-2007 03:47:58] <mutil8> hah
[07-Oct-2007 03:48:05] <mutil8> why would there be documentation
[07-Oct-2007 03:59:32] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: those guys are busy writing code, why bother with DOCS
[07-Oct-2007 04:09:53] <mutil8> i agree
[07-Oct-2007 04:09:59] <mutil8> i've figured out most of what i want to do
[07-Oct-2007 04:10:13] <mutil8> once things normalize i'll start asking in the forums, im sure the questions will get answered
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[07-Oct-2007 04:38:39] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: things never normalize
[07-Oct-2007 04:39:44] <mutil8> heh, i was talking about my particular installtion, but im sure you are correct even in reguards to that
[07-Oct-2007 04:40:38] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: you are just looking for SMS notifications?
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:08] <mutil8> for now
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:29] <mutil8> i still haven't found a way to monitor IIS or MSSQL like i want, but the basics are there
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:50] <mutil8> but yeah, sms notification would be nice
[07-Oct-2007 04:41:54] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: you can make your linux ZenOSS server in to a SMS message server
[07-Oct-2007 04:42:21] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: where are you from? (USA Texas here)
[07-Oct-2007 04:43:23] <mutil8> California
[07-Oct-2007 04:44:16] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: most CDMA providers (cell phones) have a email associated with a phone for messaging
[07-Oct-2007 04:44:25] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: have you looked in to that?
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:11] <mutil8> yeah, i may look into that, but im not sure if it shows up as an email or an sms message on the phone
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:38] <mutil8> the reason i even care is that on my phone an email is a quiet beep, while an sms messages makes a good deal of noise
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:39] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: does it really matter?
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:50] <mutil8> i don't always hear when i get email
[07-Oct-2007 04:45:53] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: gotcha
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:03] <mutil8> and if im going to be notified of a problem, i'd like to have a chance of hearing it
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:17] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: have you scoured the forums?
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:23] <mutil8> i'd rather not turn the volume up on my email notification because i get like 50 a day
[07-Oct-2007 04:46:30] <mutil8> nah, haven't looked into it too much
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:08] <mutil8> was just thinking about it today
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:25] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: are you just looking in to using zenoss as a prime time systems monitoring solution?
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:36] <mutil8> yeah
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:51] <mutil8> i've got it set up, and it's monitoring just about everything i want at this point
[07-Oct-2007 04:47:53] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: do you have it implemented yet?
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:04] <mutil8> like i said, just a few things i haven't got working yet, and im sure it's just a matter of time
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:11] <mutil8> yeah, been going for almost a week now
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:50] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: I've been working with it from 1.x to 2.0.9x and I'd say it is FAR from production
[07-Oct-2007 04:48:57] <mutil8> yeah?
[07-Oct-2007 04:49:11] <mutil8> what do you use/recommend for monitoring/notification then?
[07-Oct-2007 04:49:52] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: it is pretty and does a LOT but they need to get their change control process under control.... half of the time I upgrade there is some bug that makes my system UNOPERABLE and I have to backpeddle
[07-Oct-2007 04:50:04] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: what are you using now?
[07-Oct-2007 04:50:38] <mutil8> nothing really
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:10] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: are your pretty saavy with linux and SNMP, and what devices are you looking to monitor?
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:21] <mutil8> im comfortable with linux
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:31] <Bulwinkle> SNMP?
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:32] <mutil8> zenoss is my first project with snmp
[07-Oct-2007 04:51:50] <mutil8> 90% of the stuff i need to monitor is going to be windows devices
[07-Oct-2007 04:52:41] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: do you have a lot of different hardware vendors?
[07-Oct-2007 04:52:47] <mutil8> all our servers are dell
[07-Oct-2007 04:52:58] <mutil8> infact, in about 2 months, everything we have will be a poweredge 1955
[07-Oct-2007 04:53:08] <mutil8> we're going to all blades
[07-Oct-2007 04:53:22] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: and dell doesn't have a good solution for what you're looking to monitor?
[07-Oct-2007 04:54:31] <mutil8> they may
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:02] <mutil8> they have limited notification capabilities with the OMSA software
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:10] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: there are really two different things to monitor for servers.... hardware and services
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:14] <mutil8> but i also need to get perforamance stats, to help with scaling
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:27] <mutil8> and i'd like a central location
[07-Oct-2007 04:55:47] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: what do you have connected to your servers... backbone
[07-Oct-2007 04:56:16] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: cisco switches.... dell, hp poweredge?
[07-Oct-2007 04:56:22] <mutil8> we're using all hp procurve switches
[07-Oct-2007 04:56:59] <mutil8> soon as we go to all blade, im not sure exactly what we'll have, since the blade chassis have switches built into them, not 100% sure what route we'll go
[07-Oct-2007 04:57:06] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: if you are looking for bandwidth utilization, go with cacti for now
[07-Oct-2007 04:57:24] <mutil8> but right now, all our servers are dell, all our SAN's are IBM, and all our switches are HP
[07-Oct-2007 04:57:50] <Bulwinkle> are your SAN's IP attached?
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:02] <mutil8> IP and Fibre
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:08] <mutil8> you can monitor them via IP though
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:09] <Bulwinkle> PROBLEM
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:15] <Bulwinkle> ok
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:23] <Bulwinkle> do you know the OIDs?
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:35] <mutil8> we don't transfer data over IP on the SAN's, that's all fibre
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:43] <mutil8> not right now, im sure i could figure it out
[07-Oct-2007 04:58:53] <Bulwinkle> there is a big learning curve with ALL OSS monitoring systems
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:09] <progma> mutil8: we already have the pe blades - did you ever get the ipmi stuff reporting to zenoss?
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:15] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: that is what I said
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:45] <mutil8> progma: ipmi?
[07-Oct-2007 04:59:57] <mutil8> Bulwinkle: im sorry, i must have missed something, what do you mean
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:20] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: there is NO support unless one of is in here (IRC) or MAYBE the forums answer you
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:29] <mutil8> ah
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:31] <progma> mutil8: dell hardware stats like temperature
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:39] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: otherwise it is $100/ device
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:41] <mutil8> progma: yeah, you want a zenpack for that?
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:48] <progma> what we talked about last
[07-Oct-2007 05:00:57] <progma> mutil8: wow that was fast lol
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:08] <progma> mutil8: heck yah
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:14] <mutil8> Bulwinkle: when we go to a production level, we'll most likely buy the enterprise version, unless there's a reason not to
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:26] <mutil8> which comes with support correct?
[07-Oct-2007 05:01:45] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: I've not found a reason to move from from Nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:36] <mutil8> progma: i only have it for my PE1950's, don't have the 1955's yet (blades)
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:44] <mutil8> but im pulling in temp, and fan speeds
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:48] <progma> Bulwinkle: does nagiosgraph work without pulling teeth
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:52] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: even with the beautiful changes and all that is concerned.... ZenOSS is just an expensive enterprise solution at best
[07-Oct-2007 05:02:53] <mutil8> couldn't think of anything else to get
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:14] <progma> battery
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:21] <Bulwinkle> progma: screw nagiograph... use cacti, build templates......
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:50] <mutil8> so you can do more with cacti than zenoss?
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:56] <Bulwinkle> progma: how many interfaces do you really HAVE to graph anyways?
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:57] <mutil8> i've been really impressed so far with what i can do in zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 05:03:59] <progma> if server crashes and restarts without you there and the cmos battery is dead
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:06] <progma> the time could be way off
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:11] <progma> Bulwinkle: yup that's what i do
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:15] <progma> mutil8: no, cacti is just an awesome graphing tool
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:28] <progma> i even graph the weather stats
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:32] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: cacti makes MRTG easier that is all
[07-Oct-2007 05:04:55] <progma> dell pe temps, datacenter temps
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:10] <Bulwinkle> progma: is the zenoss upgrade/install process seamless?
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:14] <progma> yes it's still rrdtool but a friendly interface
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:31] <progma> Bulwinkle: all interfaces if possible
historical data is important to me[07-Oct-2007 05:05:39] <progma> also, i'm of the opinion that it can help in forensics
[07-Oct-2007 05:05:46] <Bulwinkle> progma: have you been screwed by an upgrade, no matter how slight?
[07-Oct-2007 05:06:10] <progma> as well as performance tuning
[07-Oct-2007 05:06:23] <progma> Bulwinkle: oh god yes, i'm staying at 0.8.6j i think
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:18] <Bulwinkle> the fact that the whole dev process is screwed is what is keeping me and my corporation on Nagios and Cacti (through countless upgrades flawlessly)
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:36] <Bulwinkle> or lack of a DEV process
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:37] <mutil8> i wish nagios was easier to setup
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:52] <progma> Bulwinkle: wait, do you mean upgrades of cacti or zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 05:07:58] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: yeah, send another email to that guy
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:06] <mutil8> haha
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:09] <Bulwinkle> progma: Zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:16] <progma> mutil8: that fruity interface is ok
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:33] <mutil8> groundwork makes it usable, but its sluggish
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:41] <progma> mutil8: but it's fruity lol
[07-Oct-2007 05:08:51] <progma> Bulwinkle: i've only recently gotten into zenoss, first install was 2.0.3 after i finally got all the deps right
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:08] <Bulwinkle> progma: good luck
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:11] <progma> as i was putting it on the same box with zabbix and cacti and needed other mysql deps
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:25] <Bulwinkle> progma: I love what they are trying to do
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:26] <progma> in the shop i'm in now, they just did an upgrade from 2.0.4 to 2.0.6
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:37] <progma> so far everything's ok except for zeneventlog stuff
[07-Oct-2007 05:09:46] <progma> Bulwinkle: yah for free it's freakin awesome
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:18] <progma> esp the autodiscovery and other automagic stuff, and no need for an agent
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:21] <Bulwinkle> progma: wait until your enterprise is depending on it and it goes down
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:44] <progma> but setting up alerting and a structure for doing so is lacking right now
[07-Oct-2007 05:10:45] <Bulwinkle> progma: UPDATE RESUME DUMP
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:07] <mutil8> maybe i should try to get nagios going again
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:09] <Bulwinkle> progma: how many devices do you monitor?
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:37] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: it is the toughest to configure.... but the most solid
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:39] <progma> Bulwinkle: haha if i have to i'll get by with cacti and zabbix and/or nagios until i can get zenoss solid
[07-Oct-2007 05:11:50] <progma> Bulwinkle: so far 238
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:05] <progma> yah nagios doesn't die
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:24] <progma> you basically have to have your own scripts to populate nagios or else something like fruity or nagat
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:28] <Bulwinkle> progma: yeah... I wanted to hand my boss a bill for 450 devices at the low low cost of $40000
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:40] <Bulwinkle> not in our fiscal budget YET
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:49] <mutil8> how do you like zabbix?
[07-Oct-2007 05:12:57] <Bulwinkle> and it isn't until they get their OSS shit together
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:06] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: never used it
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:16] <progma> zabbix suffers from similar config difficulties as nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:36] <Bulwinkle> progma: you have to have a config manager
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:38] <progma> it takes 15 freakin minutes to add one device, and then setup alerting for various conditions
[07-Oct-2007 05:13:42] <progma> is another hour
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:02] <Bulwinkle> progma: depends on how thick you are really
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:13] <progma> Bulwinkle: for zabbix or nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:22] <Bulwinkle> none of them are really that bad....
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:35] <Bulwinkle> they BOTH RUN CONSISTENTLY
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:40] <Bulwinkle> upgrades and all
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:48] <progma> i'm pretty zippy with vi so nagios is not a problem, although the one thing i had issues with (in 1.3) was escalations
[07-Oct-2007 05:14:54] <progma> just couldn't get it working
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:01] <progma> Bulwinkle: true!
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:14] <Bulwinkle> that is the only reason to stay away from ZenOSS
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:17] <Bulwinkle> FREE
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:20] <Bulwinkle> it doesn'
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:22] <Bulwinkle> t
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:25] <progma> no point in quickly discovering your devices if it's going to crash
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:31] <Bulwinkle> run sometimes after upgrades
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:38] <progma> and the biggest issue is the human side - if your team is getting hundreds of alerts an hour, they are going to get numb to hem and not care
[07-Oct-2007 05:15:58] * Bulwinkle understand
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:02] <Bulwinkle> +s
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:12] <progma> right, these guys are a big windows shop and monitoring eventlog stuff is a big deal
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:14] <progma> that part broke in the upgrade
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:18] <progma> everyone's having the same problem with diff causes
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:47] <progma> i'm pretty set on zenoss, though, partly because they are like a 30 min drive from here
[07-Oct-2007 05:16:55] <progma> i think they will make it work though
[07-Oct-2007 05:18:19] <mutil8> so other than upgrade issues, zenoss does what you need it to?
[07-Oct-2007 05:18:32] <mutil8> im not as concerned about upgrade problems
[07-Oct-2007 05:18:43] <progma> another thing i don't like about zabbix is that the web interface has a lot of security holes in it that light up my vuln scans
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:10] <Bulwinkle> Zenoss OSS is NOT primetime
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:13] <mutil8> im going to be running this in a vm environment, and will just clone the VM before i touch, like i do with everything else
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:27] <progma> and it's not as text-file edit friendly as nagios
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:31] <progma> mutil8: that's exactly what we're doing
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:32] <Bulwinkle> it is the playpen of the ZenOSS developers and we suffer for it
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:38] <progma> all our stuff is in vm's anyway
[07-Oct-2007 05:19:59] <progma> Bulwinkle: it's a tradeoff; we get free toys to play with, they get some q&a testing
[07-Oct-2007 05:20:28] <Bulwinkle> progma: would you rely on zenoss oss for your livelyhood?
[07-Oct-2007 05:20:31] <progma> back to the oss thing of, if you see something that's broke, fix/improve it yourself and doc it
[07-Oct-2007 05:20:51] <progma> Bulwinkle: not yet
[07-Oct-2007 05:21:13] <progma> cots stuff like ipmonitor is great for the $
[07-Oct-2007 05:21:24] <progma> heck with hp openview
[07-Oct-2007 05:21:38] <Bulwinkle> mutil8: you have the opinion of two people who are in this channel a GREAT DEAL of the time
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:06] <mutil8> i'll give nagios and cacti another shot i think
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:14] <Bulwinkle> I hope that ZENOSS-LOGGER has this on record and that the ZENOSS corp is on notice
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:17] <mutil8> just incase zenoss gives me a problem
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:27] <progma> Bulwinkle: lol
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:39] <Bulwinkle> has anyone here used HP Openview?
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:45] <progma> mutil8: the vm flexibility really helps; you can just back out the foo
[07-Oct-2007 05:22:53] <progma> Bulwinkle: many years ago
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:02] <mutil8> hmm 'zeneventlog heartbeat failure' is showing up on the dashboard now
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:09] <progma> on hp-ux monitoring mostly hp-ux
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:11] <mutil8> along with 'zenwinmodeler heartbeat failure'
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:16] <mutil8> heh, i used to work for HP
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:18] <progma> mutil8: are you doing any wmi stuff
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:29] <progma> mutil8: check your daemons
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:29] <Bulwinkle> that is why it is no longer a priority for HP.....
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:33] <mutil8> daemons are all up
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:43] <mutil8> and everything im doing now is SNMP
[07-Oct-2007 05:23:53] <mutil8> unless some of the default monitors are using WMI
[07-Oct-2007 05:24:27] <mutil8> i personally wouldn't depend on HP software
[07-Oct-2007 05:24:41] <mutil8> we used to have nothing but problems with any of the HP software we ran
[07-Oct-2007 05:24:49] <progma> you need to modify windows snmp to send eventlog info
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:09] <progma> hp-ux is still solid and runs in a lot of big-iron, as well as gov
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:16] <progma> but it's legacy
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:28] <progma> and very unique and archaic
[07-Oct-2007 05:25:36] <progma> worse than being on solaris 2.5 or something
[07-Oct-2007 05:30:45] <mutil8> progma: let me look up the OID for the battery on these PE 1950's, and i'll try and get a zenpack together for you
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:06] <progma> mutil8: thanks; i'm gonna do an install on an ubuntu box and go to sleep heh
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:28] <mutil8> bah
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:31] <mutil8> put it on debian
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:38] <progma> mutil8: sounds like we have some similar hardware env, so i'll give you feedback
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:41] <mutil8> smaller footprint
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:46] <progma> that is debian lol with non-free
[07-Oct-2007 05:32:57] <mutil8> yeah, i know it's debian
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:12] <mutil8> all i did was add the oid's to chart it under the perf tab
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:16] <mutil8> so nothing fancy
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:25] <mutil8> but feedback would be good
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:31] <progma> is that it?
[07-Oct-2007 05:33:39] <mutil8> what else is there?
[07-Oct-2007 05:34:10] <progma> tresholds and alerting when they trip
[07-Oct-2007 05:34:12] <mutil8> i setup the thresholds and stuff for warnings, and what not
[07-Oct-2007 05:34:58] <progma> another thing is getting used to organizing alerts by syslog level
[07-Oct-2007 05:35:30] <mutil8> heh, my fan charts may be too much
[07-Oct-2007 05:35:36] <mutil8> i have all 16 fans on 1 chart
[07-Oct-2007 05:35:45] <progma> syslog thinks some things are critical but others may not
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:06] <progma> haha wellll if the cpu fans go out, it's critical
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:19] <progma> i didn't bother with the battery until that server crashed
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:23] <mutil8> didn't think there would be 16
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:31] <progma> and it was a mess since it came back up with a date in 2001
[07-Oct-2007 05:36:44] <progma> those are the blades right
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:01] <mutil8> nope
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:02] <progma> the 3U Pedges just have... , well less than 16 heh
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:07] <mutil8> 1950's 1u PE
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:27] <mutil8> i havne't figured out how to get the chassis info yet
[07-Oct-2007 05:37:39] <mutil8> i tried an snmpwalk, and only got like 10 returns
[07-Oct-2007 05:38:43] <progma> what about in the web interface
[07-Oct-2007 05:38:49] <progma> OMSA, i mean
[07-Oct-2007 05:38:59] <mutil8> yeah, i can see them in the web interface for the blade chassis
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:07] <mutil8> the servers themself don't show fans
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:44] <progma> did you subscribe to linux-poweredge
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:51] <mutil8> not yet
[07-Oct-2007 05:39:55] <progma> i don't have access to any of my stuff right now :|
[07-Oct-2007 05:44:52] <mutil8> well, im going to hit the sheets, i'll get this zenpack together for you after i get it all fixed up
[07-Oct-2007 05:51:22] <progma> yah no hurry on that
[07-Oct-2007 05:51:32] <progma> i have to wrap my mind around the concept of a zenpack anyway
[07-Oct-2007 06:40:44] <progma> trying to compile from source, keeps breaking on pycrypto-install
[07-Oct-2007 06:42:17] <progma> must be python issues
[07-Oct-2007 12:07:58] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[07-Oct-2007 15:12:28] <brent1> Hello. I'm a first time user of Zenoss and starting a fresh Ubuntu install right now, will let you know how it goes...
[07-Oct-2007 15:13:13] <progma> brent1: ok; i just got it working in feisty from source
[07-Oct-2007 15:13:41] <brent1> build 7000?
[07-Oct-2007 15:14:38] <brent1> revision 7000 I mean
[07-Oct-2007 15:17:08] <brent1> Here's a question. Our Zenoss server is going to reside in our datacenter, which we are going to be sending SNMP data internally not encrypted.
[07-Oct-2007 15:17:50] <brent1> Any idea on how to ship collected SNMP data from Windows/Cisco Routers/Cisco ASA's over the internet via SSH or SSL?
[07-Oct-2007 15:18:04] <progma> d/l'd it last night
[07-Oct-2007 15:18:21] <progma> why not a vpn
[07-Oct-2007 15:18:42] <progma> i guess you could setup an ssh vpn, but site-to-site ipsec would be the way i'd do it
[07-Oct-2007 15:19:33] <brent1> We manage 25-30 small-medium businesses. We don't want to setup/manage that many tunnels so we're siding not to go with that idea
[07-Oct-2007 15:20:18] <brent1> "Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database..." so far so good...
[07-Oct-2007 15:26:00] <brent1> We've been evaluating several products such as Passler, Hyperic and Zenoss. Hyperic has a agent that ships all the data back over HTTP or HTTPS if you want. I think it posts it to a webservice. I was wondering if Zenoss had anything like that
[07-Oct-2007 15:47:38] <mutil8> if it were me i'd do it over an ssh tunnel
[07-Oct-2007 15:47:47] <progma> brent1: i don't believe it's built-in, no
[07-Oct-2007 15:47:53] <progma> mutil8: yah effectively an ssh vpn
[07-Oct-2007 15:48:00] <mutil8> yep
[07-Oct-2007 15:48:32] <mutil8> i'll be doing that same thing as soon as i get the base server setup
[07-Oct-2007 15:48:56] <mutil8> we'll have about 40 machines in a colo, and 5 at the office, i want a monitor at both places in case 1 goes down
[07-Oct-2007 15:49:06] <mutil8> and i'll probably setup a 3rd monitor at my home
[07-Oct-2007 15:49:54] <mutil8> office to colo will have a point to point vpn, but not my house wont
[07-Oct-2007 16:14:03] <Ahmuck> has anyone installed zenoss on gutsy?
[07-Oct-2007 16:14:37] <brent1> just got my feisty install up and running
[07-Oct-2007 16:15:50] <Ahmuck> i was following the feisty instructions but got an error when attempting "./install.sh"
[07-Oct-2007 16:16:09] <brent1> What was the error?
[07-Oct-2007 16:16:51] <Ahmuck> build-functions.sh: line 239: mysql_config: command not found
[07-Oct-2007 16:16:51] <Ahmuck> You must have a MySQL development environment installed
[07-Oct-2007 16:17:31] <Ahmuck> nm, i got it
[07-Oct-2007 16:18:20] <Ahmuck> well, hrm, ok, i don't
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:00] <mutil8> what is dutsy?
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:12] <mutil8> err gutsy
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:24] <Ahmuck> Couldn't find package "mysql-dev". However, the following
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:24] <Ahmuck> packages contain "mysql-dev" in their name:
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:24] <Ahmuck> libkaya-mysql-dev liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev libghc6-hsql-mysql-dev libgnademysql-dev
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:33] <Ahmuck> gutsy is *buntu's next release
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:37] <mutil8> ah
[07-Oct-2007 16:19:42] <Ahmuck> currently in release canidate
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:01] <Ahmuck> set to go live on the 18th
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:07] <mutil8> http://www.dotdeb.org/mirrors
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:13] <mutil8> add a source from there to your apt sources
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:18] <brent1> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A Write fault occured on the network. (88) any ideas?
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:27] <mutil8> then install mysql-server-5.0 and libmysqlclient15-dev
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:39] <brent1> I think I have to set the windows credentials under zproperties, right?
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:40] <mutil8> brent1: check the password you're using
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:49] <mutil8> yep
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:51] <Ahmuck> yes, i would really like a *.deb of zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 16:20:58] <Ahmuck> from ubuntu repositories
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:02] <progma> ^^^
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:37] <mutil8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/installing-zenoss-on-debian-sarge/
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:41] <mutil8> thats a pretty good howto
[07-Oct-2007 16:21:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Installing Zenoss on Debian (Sarge) - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2007 16:23:56] <Ahmuck> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-ubuntu-7.04/
[07-Oct-2007 16:24:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on Ubuntu 7.04 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2007 16:25:09] <Ahmuck> problem is, zenoss is hardcoded for python 2.4, so moving up forces you to unlink/link etc.
[07-Oct-2007 16:25:41] <Ahmuck> i'm wondering if this is what is happening with the mysql error as well, but *shrugs* i don't know enough about it to tell
[07-Oct-2007 16:26:23] <mutil8> when i installed it on fiesty, i uninstall 2.5, and installed 2.4
[07-Oct-2007 16:27:17] <brent1> How do I get WinService to show up in the OS tab like IP Services?
[07-Oct-2007 16:28:06] <Ahmuck> yes, but i need 2.5
[07-Oct-2007 16:28:20] <Ahmuck> hrm, i wonder if the tar is different than the svn
[07-Oct-2007 16:47:33] <progma> Ahmuck: svn is more current (and also potentially more unstable)
[07-Oct-2007 16:47:41] <Ahmuck> the howto needs to be editied or for gutsy, libmysql++-dev needs to be added to get 2.2.8 or svn to install
[07-Oct-2007 16:47:57] <Ahmuck> adding that lib allows the install to comlete
[07-Oct-2007 16:54:39] <Eeyore-Jr> i couldn't help but notice that zenoss is installing, nagios, rrdtool, etc.
[07-Oct-2007 16:54:53] <Eeyore-Jr> so, what exatly is zenoss, a gui for those tools?
[07-Oct-2007 16:55:18] <progma> Eeyore-Jr: the nagios part is just support for nagios plugins
[07-Oct-2007 16:55:26] <progma> Eeyore-Jr: but it needs rrdtool for graphing
[07-Oct-2007 16:56:10] <Eeyore-Jr> is it possible that those can be installed by the distro? is zenoss installing these in it's place of choice or according to distro rules or genreally?
[07-Oct-2007 16:56:54] <Eeyore-Jr> i guess the question should be, if zenoss is installing those tools, will they be setup and in different directories other than how my distro would set it up?
[07-Oct-2007 16:58:39] <progma> i've put zenoss on machines with cacti, nagios and zabbix already installed; i'm not sure yet what automagic zenoss does to incorporate existing installs of things like rrdtool, snmp and syslog but so far it hasn't broke my existing installs of those
[07-Oct-2007 17:02:59] <Eeyore-Jr> k, is zenoss like cacti or different?
[07-Oct-2007 17:05:54] <progma> Eeyore-Jr: it's more of a comprehensive monitoring package than just a graphing tool
[07-Oct-2007 17:21:24] <Eeyore-Jr> so is anybody here using it on feisty?
[07-Oct-2007 17:23:56] <brent1> I am
[07-Oct-2007 17:43:25] <Eeyore-Jr> brent1: well, it's started, but is there supposed to be a gui?
[07-Oct-2007 17:46:14] <brent1> I need to install zenwin on my Windows 2003 boxes, right?
[07-Oct-2007 18:15:00] <mutil8> no, you don't have to install anything on the 2k3 boxes
[07-Oct-2007 18:15:11] <mutil8> just make sure snmp is setup properly on them
[07-Oct-2007 18:15:35] <mutil8> Eeyore-Jr: you get to the GUI at http://<zenoss machine>:8080
[07-Oct-2007 18:29:04] <Ahmuck> mutil8: yep, found it
[07-Oct-2007 21:31:11] <progma> mutil8: what about eventlog
[07-Oct-2007 21:32:05] <brent1> is my zope username and password the same as the regular admin login?
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[07-Oct-2007 23:00:59] <rfoust> hmm i'm still not quite understanding how to manage/use wmi in zenoss
[07-Oct-2007 23:01:43] <brent1> I am still trying to figure that out. I've been installing SNMP Informant, putting in proper credentials in the zProperties. I get HD, NIC, CPU, etc populated but no Windows services
[07-Oct-2007 23:04:37] <rfoust> so i guess there should be a WMI modeling plugin?
[07-Oct-2007 23:04:48] <rfoust> maybe we have to buy that
[07-Oct-2007 23:06:39] <rfoust> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11020
[07-Oct-2007 23:06:46] <rfoust> that's the most helpful thing I've found so far
[07-Oct-2007 23:06:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenWin: Getting more out of WMI (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2007 23:13:14] <rfoust> so in the free version, we have to do it the hard way, apparently
[07-Oct-2007 23:17:33] <brent1> well, I'm trying to get zenwin installed
[07-Oct-2007 23:18:01] <brent1> that should send windows service status to Zenoss, right?
[07-Oct-2007 23:18:39] <rfoust> not sure..
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[08-Oct-2007 00:33:32] <rfoust> brent1: figured it out... you just have to install the standard version of snmp-informant. Now I can see the services that I've selected to monitor in the "Services" thingy on the left panel.
[08-Oct-2007 00:33:57] <rfoust> (I already had the advanced version of Informant installed, but it uses different OIDs than the free version
[08-Oct-2007 02:46:24] <brent1> rfoust: I've set some items in WinService to true, but they don't get monitored
[08-Oct-2007 02:47:57] <brent1> all my IP Services show up ok. smtp, domain, http, etc
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[08-Oct-2007 07:17:09] <dgoogle> Has anyone had any luck finding the pre-compiled zenoss for Solaris 10?
[08-Oct-2007 11:27:35] <imperfect-> Anyone around?
[08-Oct-2007 11:27:43] <imperfect-> Zenoss has decided to it likes to stop collecting data
[08-Oct-2007 11:52:21] <Freak> imperfect-: check wether all daemons are still running, if they dont, restart and recheck after a few seconds. if they dont start, check the log.
[08-Oct-2007 11:52:24] <Freak> hth.
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:24] <imperfect-> well
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:29] <imperfect-> They all appear to be working
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:37] <imperfect-> it's just like it stopped getting info
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:38] <imperfect-> Tho
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:46] <imperfect-> I am finding that the snmp get on one of my switches i like
[08-Oct-2007 11:54:48] <imperfect-> hanging
[08-Oct-2007 11:55:01] <imperfect-> and when I try to remodel or somehting it'll say 234234234seconds
[08-Oct-2007 12:18:59] <Freak> what does "IP Address 10.253.4.1/22" mean?
[08-Oct-2007 12:19:37] <Freak> I mean.. what does the /22 want to say for an _address_?
[08-Oct-2007 12:19:54] <Freak> like.. not a network but a single address?
[08-Oct-2007 14:04:50] <xoritor> good morning
[08-Oct-2007 14:12:05] <xoritor> ok, so i populated my information about what OS, hardware, etc... last week and when i came back in this morning its gone
[08-Oct-2007 14:12:07] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 14:12:14] <xoritor> thats very odd
[08-Oct-2007 14:17:36] <jp10558> I'm sort of cross posting here, but I wondered if anyone knows a good way to monitor Samba shares on a Linux server to make sure that users (well, one "service" user) can log in? Not that Samba is running, but that a browse/login succeeds?
[08-Oct-2007 14:18:21] <xoritor> jp10558: i dont really understand what your trying to do
[08-Oct-2007 14:18:44] <xoritor> just make sure that a remote user can login and get a dir listing?
[08-Oct-2007 14:20:20] <xoritor> smbclient //host.domain.tld/share -U username
[08-Oct-2007 14:20:27] <xoritor> that could be the start of it
[08-Oct-2007 14:20:40] <xoritor> or even easier if you really want
[08-Oct-2007 14:21:17] <jp10558> that looks like it
[08-Oct-2007 14:21:29] <jp10558> I guess I just don't know how to make Zenoss do that, and send an alert if it fails
[08-Oct-2007 14:21:44] <jp10558> You know, as part of normal monitoring of the device
[08-Oct-2007 14:22:16] <xoritor> make a credentials file someplace zenoss can access it and make sure its only readable by root:zenoss (640) then "mount -o credentials=/path/to/your/file //servername/sharename /mnt && ls /mnt "
[08-Oct-2007 14:22:49] <xoritor> once you figure out how to script it you should be able to make a "user command" and tie that to an event
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:07] <jp10558> ok - and then I can have Zenoss run the command every time it polls?
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:11] <xoritor> yep
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:12] <jp10558> and generate an event?
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:15] <xoritor> yep
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:20] <xoritor> should be that easy
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:28] <xoritor> dont forget to umount
[08-Oct-2007 14:23:57] <xoritor> if your going to mount and forget the umount you will prolly fairly quickly have lots of stale mounts
[08-Oct-2007 14:24:00] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 14:24:11] <xoritor> you could use the smbclient too... no mount needed
[08-Oct-2007 14:24:39] <jp10558> how do I tie it to an event
[08-Oct-2007 14:37:01] <fiXXXerMet> If I want to the event log for a service that is running on one of my windows boxes (Backup Exec), do I add it to /Services or /Processes?
[08-Oct-2007 14:40:58] <jp10558> I expect it depends
[08-Oct-2007 14:41:39] <jp10558> fiXXXerMet: for services in Windows, I would not add it so much as set monitor to true
[08-Oct-2007 14:43:41] <fiXXXerMet> jp10558: Well the services isn't listed in Zenoss yet
[08-Oct-2007 14:45:10] <jp10558> do you have WMI working properly?
[08-Oct-2007 14:45:20] <jp10558> Does WinServices show up at all?
[08-Oct-2007 14:45:49] <fiXXXerMet> On some devices, yes
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:38] <jp10558> Do you have the desired device in /Server/Windows?
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:46] <fiXXXerMet> Yes
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:53] <fiXXXerMet> Well, no
[08-Oct-2007 14:46:56] <jp10558> if so, try unchecking monitored
[08-Oct-2007 14:47:04] <fiXXXerMet> I'm using my own class schema
[08-Oct-2007 14:47:26] <jp10558> Do you have zWmiIgnore set to false?
[08-Oct-2007 14:48:03] <fiXXXerMet> It was set to true
[08-Oct-2007 14:48:17] <fiXXXerMet> zWmiMonitorIgnore
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:18] <jp10558> Set it to false
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:27] <jp10558> then it will use WMI to poll services
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:39] <jp10558> and then you'll see them in WinServices - after 10-15 minutes anyway
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:54] <jp10558> ohh, but make sure you do have the proper zWinUser etc
[08-Oct-2007 14:50:54] <jp10558> set
[08-Oct-2007 14:51:45] <fiXXXerMet> I just set this for /
[08-Oct-2007 14:51:54] <fiXXXerMet> And it should inherit to the classes under?
[08-Oct-2007 15:01:54] <jp10558> it will, but you don't want it doing this for all computers
[08-Oct-2007 15:02:00] <jp10558> i.e. not for linux machines
[08-Oct-2007 15:02:16] <jp10558> xoritor: how would I pass back login results?
[08-Oct-2007 15:04:11] <xoritor> jp10558: just check the return value
[08-Oct-2007 15:04:28] <xoritor> if the return value = 0 then it was successful
[08-Oct-2007 15:04:45] <xoritor> anything greater than 0 is a failure
[08-Oct-2007 15:05:15] <xoritor> jp10558: for the mount or the smbclient?
[08-Oct-2007 15:06:07] <xoritor> well... either way run $COMMAND && echo $?
[08-Oct-2007 15:06:26] <xoritor> you will see that $? always has the return value for the command (in bash anyways)
[08-Oct-2007 15:07:37] <xoritor> zenoss should get the success/failure info from that (not 100% sure about that)
[08-Oct-2007 15:08:17] <jp10558> so I don't type this directly into the Zenoss interface?
[08-Oct-2007 15:08:34] <jp10558> IE smbclient //machine/share -U foo%pass -c exit
[08-Oct-2007 15:08:46] <jp10558> for the user command
[08-Oct-2007 15:13:54] <xoritor> sure
[08-Oct-2007 15:13:57] <xoritor> that works
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:00] <xoritor> should work
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:22] <xoritor> and zenoss should check the success/failure by ehcking the return code of that command
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:40] <xoritor> you can do that at the command line with this: smbclient //machine/share -U foo%pass -c exit && echo $?
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:50] <xoritor> err
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:58] <xoritor> s/&&/;/
[08-Oct-2007 15:14:59] <xoritor> ;-)
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:00] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:11] <xoritor> smbclient //machine/share -U foo%pass -c exit ; echo $?
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:30] <xoritor> the first one would only give you the return code if it was successful
[08-Oct-2007 15:15:31] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 15:16:14] <xoritor> dont put the echo $? in the command for zenoss as that will always return 0 so it would never show zenoss an exit code other than 0
[08-Oct-2007 15:16:20] <xoritor> so you would never get a failure
[08-Oct-2007 15:16:21] <xoritor> heh
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:00] <jp10558> So I've added this as a data collector template
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:05] <jp10558> is that where it should go?
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:48] <jp10558> '/Templates /Commands /SMBCheck'
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:52] <jp10558> as it were
[08-Oct-2007 15:18:58] <jp10558> and set it up as an absolute?
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:00] <jp10558> not a gauge?
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:32] <xoritor> hmm
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:35] <xoritor> im guessing...
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:41] <xoritor> i couldnt 100% tell you there
[08-Oct-2007 15:19:47] <xoritor> sorry
[08-Oct-2007 15:24:25] <jp10558> Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/ - Code: 126 - Msg: Command invoked cannot execute, permissions problem or command is not an executable
[08-Oct-2007 15:24:29] <jp10558> hmmm, that's what I got
[08-Oct-2007 15:24:40] <jp10558> not so happy, permissions are ok as far as we can tell ?
[08-Oct-2007 15:25:30] <jp10558> smbclient //server/share -U luser%smb4VPN -c exit; echo $$?
[08-Oct-2007 15:25:33] <jp10558> is the command
[08-Oct-2007 15:25:43] <jp10558> did I screw this up?
[08-Oct-2007 15:27:29] <xoritor> hmm
[08-Oct-2007 15:27:31] <xoritor> i dunno
[08-Oct-2007 15:28:20] <xoritor> did you try it at the command line?
[08-Oct-2007 15:29:55] <jp10558> it does work at the command line
[08-Oct-2007 15:30:16] <xoritor> im not 100% sure then
[08-Oct-2007 15:30:21] <jp10558> ok
[08-Oct-2007 15:30:27] <xoritor> i have never tried to do that myself
[08-Oct-2007 15:32:40] <jp10558> to the forum!
[08-Oct-2007 16:16:57] <brent1> I just got zenoss up and running (release 7000), I've installed snmp informant, configured SNMP and entered the proper credentials under zProperties. On every server zeneventlog is showing up with a red dot and I do not get any Windows services shown
[08-Oct-2007 16:17:00] <brent1> What should I be checking?
[08-Oct-2007 16:31:21] <mutil8> whats the error message?
[08-Oct-2007 16:32:34] <mutil8> Virtual disk degraded: Virtual Disk 0 (Virtual Disk 0) Controller 0 (CERC SATA 1.5/6ch)
[08-Oct-2007 16:32:37] <mutil8> uh oh!
[08-Oct-2007 16:32:41] <mutil8> guess i should fix that
[08-Oct-2007 16:46:40] <progma> mutil8: hi
[08-Oct-2007 16:46:43] <mutil8> sup
[08-Oct-2007 16:47:58] <mutil8> progma: any of your poweredge boxes using that controller? (CERC SATA 1.5/6ch)
[08-Oct-2007 16:48:17] <progma> mutil8: nope, all percs
[08-Oct-2007 16:48:51] <mutil8> i'll never use these controllers again
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:09] <mutil8> between the 4 boxes i have using them, i've probably gone through 8-10
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:13] <mutil8> in the last 12-18 months
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:47] <progma> wow
[08-Oct-2007 16:49:54] <progma> what kind of storage, powervaults
[08-Oct-2007 16:50:11] <mutil8> they're all in just poweredge servers we have
[08-Oct-2007 16:50:42] <mutil8> i just need to keep them running another 2-3 months, they're going to be replaced in our next round of buying
[08-Oct-2007 16:52:31] <mutil8> such a pain though
[08-Oct-2007 16:53:45] <progma> haven't had any real problems with any of the percs , just certain powervaults with maxtor drives
[08-Oct-2007 16:56:03] <mutil8> this perticular machine that i just got the warning from is running maxtors i believe
[08-Oct-2007 16:56:20] <mutil8> but i have another one with WD Raptors that just recently failed as well
[08-Oct-2007 16:56:46] <progma> be sure to update the firmware on the maxtors
[08-Oct-2007 16:57:17] <progma> i had one logical vol spread over 2 powervaults/4 logical drives with raid 5
[08-Oct-2007 16:57:46] <progma> 2 drives failed at the same time on one vault due to some oversensitivity that a firmware update fixed
[08-Oct-2007 16:58:21] <progma> was able to get it all back but you can imagine how much fun i had
[08-Oct-2007 16:59:12] <mutil8> i'll have to check my firmware versions
[08-Oct-2007 16:59:23] <mutil8> and i can imagine that was a long day
[08-Oct-2007 17:00:45] <progma> brent1: can you snmpwalk the windows machines
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:21] <mutil8> progma: you have any PE1800's?
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:30] <mutil8> im just about done with all my data points for the 1800's
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:42] <mutil8> i'll get to the 1950's and 1955's after these
[08-Oct-2007 17:01:47] <mutil8> if you want those zenpacks
[08-Oct-2007 17:09:00] <brent1> Can Zenoss send a HTTP "ping" to a website to see if it is up and running?
[08-Oct-2007 17:13:12] <mutil8> sure
[08-Oct-2007 17:13:23] <mutil8> IP Service under OS
[08-Oct-2007 17:14:05] <brent1> like, can the Zenoss server go out to www.google.com and test to make sure it is up?
[08-Oct-2007 17:16:27] <brent1> I guess I am looking to monitor via ICMP request/replies
[08-Oct-2007 17:17:17] <mutil8> hmm
[08-Oct-2007 17:17:24] <mutil8> not sure on that one
[08-Oct-2007 17:22:47] <jp10558> Well, when you add a device, you could, instead of monitoring with SNMP, select ping monitoring
[08-Oct-2007 17:23:01] <kgoedtel> or, use check_ping nagios plugin
[08-Oct-2007 17:38:39] <brent1> kgoedtel: is that a "zenpack" addon or something?
[08-Oct-2007 17:39:11] <brent1> Under Discovery Protocol I have snmp or none
[08-Oct-2007 17:39:11] <kgoedtel> it could be if you made it one
[08-Oct-2007 17:40:43] <brent1> I think I found it. I changed Device Class Path to /Ping
[08-Oct-2007 17:58:31] <jp10558> is there a way to have Zenoss check the path rather than use the absolute path to commands in a command?
[08-Oct-2007 17:59:59] <progma> mutil8: i don't think we have pe 1*** but i'd love to check out the zenpack anyway
[08-Oct-2007 18:02:09] <mutil8> k, i gotta figure out how to get this into a zenpack that's usable by others
[08-Oct-2007 18:02:29] <mutil8> i made the mistake of setting up the template on 1 machine, and i have no idea how to get it so i can use it on others
[08-Oct-2007 18:06:15] <progma> me either
[08-Oct-2007 18:07:49] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[08-Oct-2007 18:08:04] <progma> trying to figure out how disable monitoring of a drive for a bunch of servers; i'm just going in the os tab of each device
[08-Oct-2007 18:08:44] <brent1> how do I change the FQDN that zenoss is emailing out as? zenossuser_admin@ubuntu1.clientserver.local - it picked up the domain name of one of my client servers
[08-Oct-2007 18:09:53] <progma> brent1: top right, "Preferences", "Edit" tab, "Email"
[08-Oct-2007 18:10:48] <brent1> ah, easy. it was blank
[08-Oct-2007 18:25:25] <jp10558> IS there a way to change what is in the SUMMARY for an event?
[08-Oct-2007 18:25:53] <jp10558> Specifically, instead of:
[08-Oct-2007 18:25:53] <jp10558> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[08-Oct-2007 18:26:09] <jp10558> something more meaningful like:
[08-Oct-2007 18:26:09] <jp10558> Failed to connect to SAMBA share.
[08-Oct-2007 19:39:13] <progma> for the zWinUser, what's the least amount of privileges required - i don't want to use a domain admin account for wmi
[08-Oct-2007 19:49:37] <jp10558> progma: unfortunately, they need administrative level access for it to work
[08-Oct-2007 20:06:42] <progma> jp10558: no way to setup a custom AD group that grants required privs? i guess if there was, you would say so eh
[08-Oct-2007 20:11:08] <brent1> If I have remote sites with Cisco PIXes and ASA's, can Zenoss SSH into them and pull performance and other data?
[08-Oct-2007 20:12:20] <kgoedtel> why not use snmp?
[08-Oct-2007 20:13:03] <brent1> wouldn't it be unencrypted?
[08-Oct-2007 20:13:23] <brent1> if I had the PIX/ASA send SNMP data from the outside interface, over the internet into my Zenoss box?
[08-Oct-2007 20:18:15] <kgoedtel> i suppose that would be a concern and pix/asa dont have v3 snmo anyhow... but the answer to using ssh is: not easily
[08-Oct-2007 20:18:21] <kgoedtel> snmp*
[08-Oct-2007 20:19:29] <brent1> heh thought so
[08-Oct-2007 20:20:35] <brent1> another question, is there an easy way to add a avail graph to /Devices/Ping ?
[08-Oct-2007 20:21:06] <kgoedtel> not sure what you mean
[08-Oct-2007 20:22:23] <brent1> There are graphs for CPU, Memory, etc. I want a performance graph where the x is time and the y is availiable (0 not, 1 yes). It's a pretty graph for the execs to view (heh_
[08-Oct-2007 20:22:45] <brent1> or have it where the y is the ping time
[08-Oct-2007 20:23:10] <brent1> yeah, having the y as the ping time (ms) would be better
[08-Oct-2007 20:23:14] <kgoedtel> yeh you could do ping if you made a zenpack or used a command
[08-Oct-2007 20:23:36] <kgoedtel> you need to get the value into a data source somehow
[08-Oct-2007 20:24:13] <brent1> I added the IP using the /Ping Device Class
[08-Oct-2007 20:24:22] <brent1> does that run regular pings to the IP?
[08-Oct-2007 20:24:35] <dschrock> you are looking for something similar to smokeping then?
[08-Oct-2007 20:25:10] <brent1> ah, yes that is what I am looking to accomplish
[08-Oct-2007 20:25:15] <kgoedtel> yah regular icmp pings, but doesnt store a delay in a data source
[08-Oct-2007 20:25:22] <kgoedtel> so nothing to graph
[08-Oct-2007 20:26:14] <dschrock> as of right now, you will need to roll your own... i've been periodically bugging the devs to add this functionality, but the built-in ping is asynchronous and not useful for response-time tests
[08-Oct-2007 20:26:54] <dschrock> i was toying with using fping and setting up data sources to create my own smokeping... i just haven't gotten around to it yet
[08-Oct-2007 20:27:28] <brent1> so currently if the ping does not return and turns red, I can have it throw a email to me, right?
[08-Oct-2007 20:28:09] <dschrock> yes... it should do that by default
[08-Oct-2007 20:28:23] <dschrock> if the alerting is set up...
[08-Oct-2007 20:28:28] <brent1> ok, thanks
[08-Oct-2007 20:32:02] <brent1> Here's another question. I have SMTP/25 enabled into a foriegn network. My goal is to test email services by getting a "220" or something else spit back. Can I modify the /Ping class to perform this or should I see about modifying the Nagios Plugin that can look for text on a website?
[08-Oct-2007 20:32:33] <brent1> so, checking remotly for a responce on port 25
[08-Oct-2007 20:40:04] <dschrock> nagios plugin is probably your best bet
[08-Oct-2007 22:28:12] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[08-Oct-2007 22:33:50] <jerris> Anyone looking to have mercy on a noob?
[08-Oct-2007 22:41:51] <mutil8> what's the problem?
[08-Oct-2007 23:10:47] <jerris> I downloaded and ran the VMWare images (2.0.6, 2.0.91, 2.0.92) of Zenoss on a Linux VMWare server. When I try to manually add a Windows system, it thinks for a while, then comes back with no results. There are no errors, it just doesn't add it. It works just fine adding routers and Linux or Unix systems.
[08-Oct-2007 23:11:20] <jerris> I know that the SNMP service is running as OpenManage (Dell's monitoring software) and GFI (another network monitoring solution) both use it and they're working fine. I've also manually checked to make sure the service was installed and running.
[08-Oct-2007 23:11:29] <mutil8> snmp isn't enabled or setup properly on the windows boxes then
[08-Oct-2007 23:11:44] <mutil8> did you add your host IP to the access list on the windows boxes?
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:00] <jerris> ?
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:04] <jerris> Let me check.
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:16] <mutil8> go to services on the machine, then snmp service
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:21] <mutil8> traps
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:31] <mutil8> you need the community name, and trap destination
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:41] <mutil8> destination should be hostname or IP of your zenoss machine
[08-Oct-2007 23:12:52] <mutil8> then for security i checked 'send authentication trap'
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:08] <mutil8> make sure you have the correct community name under accepted community names
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:21] <mutil8> then i also had to add the host under 'accept snmp packets from these hosts'
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:28] <mutil8> restart snmp server
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:30] <jerris> Would I just use "public" for the community name?
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:33] <mutil8> and install snmp informant if you want some real info
[08-Oct-2007 23:13:36] <mutil8> i just used public
[08-Oct-2007 23:14:02] <jerris> Well, after I get a connection, I figure I can use WMI.
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:04] <mutil8> said you're running dell's?
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:15] <jerris> yup
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:18] <mutil8> what models?
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:24] <mutil8> i have 1800's, 1950's, and 1955's
[08-Oct-2007 23:15:30] <mutil8> i should have zenpacks out for all of them in a day or 2
[08-Oct-2007 23:16:59] <mutil8> or if you want to do it yourself, i can point you in the right direction for the OID's to pull info from OMSA
[08-Oct-2007 23:18:41] <jerris> mostly 850s 950s 1850s 1950s 2850's 2950s
[08-Oct-2007 23:18:54] <mutil8> well i can help you on the 1950's
[08-Oct-2007 23:18:58] <jerris>
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:00] <mutil8> should be pretty much the same
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:06] <mutil8> may have more or less of certain things
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:17] <mutil8> my 1950's have 16 fans i monitor, and 2 temps
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:18] <jerris> Sure, any help would be awesome.
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:26] <mutil8> 1800's have 2 fans, and 6 temps
[08-Oct-2007 23:19:32] <mutil8> but they all start at the same base OID
[08-Oct-2007 23:21:22] <jerris> I just verified that that was the problem. I'm able to detect that one Windows host now. I'll have to make a group policy to change the rest.
[08-Oct-2007 23:21:47] <jerris> Where are the Zenpacks going to be located?
[08-Oct-2007 23:22:17] <mutil8> i'll put them up somewhere, probably post them to the forum if i get a chance in the next day or 2
[08-Oct-2007 23:22:36] <mutil8> otherwise im in here all the time, and i can just send them to you
[08-Oct-2007 23:23:08] <mutil8> i've never made a zenpack before, so i want to setup a test zenoss server to try importing them with before i release them
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:00] <jerris> I'll look into making a few too for our other Dell servers.
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:06] <jerris> Thanks for the help man...
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:09] <mutil8> no problem
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:15] <mutil8> im using 2.0.6
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:29] <mutil8> and had an issue with the 64 bit servers needing the username to be all lowercase
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:34] <mutil8> not sure if that was 2.0.6 specific
[08-Oct-2007 23:24:44] <mutil8> and it wasn't a problem on my 32 bit servers
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:09] <mutil8> another person that was in here had the same problem, so it's something to consider if you run into a WMI problem
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:09] <jerris> I asked this same question in the forum, mind if I copy some of this conversation and post it in there so if anyone else has the same problem, it'll be there?
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:18] <mutil8> nope, go ahead
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:25] <jerris> thanks again.
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:32] <mutil8> yep
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:46] <mutil8> i personally use all caps domain name, and all lowercase username
[08-Oct-2007 23:25:53] <mutil8> and haven't had a problem since i started doing it that way
[08-Oct-2007 23:26:18] <jerris> good to know.
[08-Oct-2007 23:44:32] <dgoogle> Anyone running core 2.1 on Solaris 10?
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[09-Oct-2007 10:09:56] <Merciless> Morning all
[09-Oct-2007 11:00:14] <progma> morning
[09-Oct-2007 11:01:56] <Merciless> late reply but hey
[09-Oct-2007 11:01:56] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 11:39:19] indradg__ is now known as indradg
[09-Oct-2007 11:44:50] <incorrect> hello, where can i get mib's from to load into zenoss?
[09-Oct-2007 11:50:44] <progma> incorrect: depends; the equipment vendor sometimes provides
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:03] <incorrect> i once found a repository of mibs
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:08] <incorrect> i just can't remember the URL
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:21] <progma> incorrect: what's the equipment you need it for
[09-Oct-2007 11:51:35] <incorrect> hp procurves and cisco pix
[09-Oct-2007 11:52:03] <progma> hmm be careful enabling snmp on the pix
[09-Oct-2007 11:52:24] <progma> no idea what procurves is
[09-Oct-2007 11:53:27] <incorrect> why do you say that about pix?
[09-Oct-2007 11:54:10] <progma> because it's a firewall, you want to be extra careful about your snmp config
[09-Oct-2007 11:54:49] <incorrect> yes, i just thought for a second you were going to tell me that it was likely to crash it or something
[09-Oct-2007 11:56:03] <incorrect> ah mib depot
[09-Oct-2007 12:10:41] <incorrect> if i wanted to return lists of installed software from redhat via snmp to zenoss, i assume i need to exec a remote script or something?
[09-Oct-2007 12:11:56] <Merciless> pfft
[09-Oct-2007 12:12:02] <Merciless> no one's replied on my zenoss forum post yet lol
[09-Oct-2007 12:12:10] <Merciless> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3434 <--- need an expert!
[09-Oct-2007 12:12:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Various Problems (WMI, Custom Mib's and thresholds..) (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Oct-2007 12:35:43] <Merciless> and it goes silent again
[09-Oct-2007 12:35:45] <Merciless> oops
[09-Oct-2007 13:48:46] <Merciless> pfft
[09-Oct-2007 13:48:50] <Merciless> so much for an active zenoss community
[09-Oct-2007 13:48:51] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 13:57:55] <incorrect> no one here but just chickens
[09-Oct-2007 14:00:53] <Merciless> aye
[09-Oct-2007 14:00:54] <Merciless> crazy!
[09-Oct-2007 14:01:02] <Merciless> I really need help too!
[09-Oct-2007 14:02:20] <incorrect> i read your post, i don't know what could be wrong
[09-Oct-2007 14:03:03] <incorrect> if you plugged in a laptop and snmpwalked the systems, does that give back the same issues?
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:13] <Merciless> thats the weird thing
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:16] <Merciless> snmp for that mib works fine
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:26] <Merciless> but creating a threshold based on the output doesnt
[09-Oct-2007 14:05:28] <Merciless> confusing as hell lol
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:01] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/detail.html
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:09] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere's MIB Download Area (at www.oidview.com)
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:21] <Merciless> ?
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:26] <Robbadub> Has the most complete MIB database
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:33] <Merciless> i dont need a mib database
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:47] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:47] <Robbadub> For mr.incorrect earlier on
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:50] <Merciless> oooooo
[09-Oct-2007 14:09:51] <Merciless> hes left
[09-Oct-2007 14:10:01] <Merciless> and someone recommended him mib deopt i think which is def the best
[09-Oct-2007 14:10:29] <Robbadub> thanks
[09-Oct-2007 14:10:35] <Robbadub> where is MIB depot?
[09-Oct-2007 14:11:06] <Robbadub> found the lik
[09-Oct-2007 14:11:09] <Robbadub> link
[09-Oct-2007 14:12:33] <Robbadub> Did not find the link
[09-Oct-2007 14:12:39] <Robbadub> Can you repost pls
[09-Oct-2007 14:12:58] <Robbadub> found it
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:39] <Merciless> lol
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:39] <Merciless>
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:43] <Merciless> google is your friend
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:44] <Robbadub> hehehe
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:50] <Robbadub> sometimes
[09-Oct-2007 14:13:54] <adytum-bot> http://www.maui.net/~zen_gtr/zgzinepg4.html
[09-Oct-2007 14:14:45] <Merciless> ^^ random
[09-Oct-2007 14:28:39] <progma> ditto re: MIB depot
[09-Oct-2007 14:29:06] <Merciless> but once again no one can help me on my other problems
[09-Oct-2007 14:51:49] <Robbadub> No?
[09-Oct-2007 14:51:56] <Robbadub> That's unpleasant
[09-Oct-2007 14:53:18] <Robbadub> Have you tried relationship coaching?
[09-Oct-2007 14:53:26] <Robbadub> Viagra?
[09-Oct-2007 15:04:15] <kgoedtel> does anyone know how to create a threshold using an snmp data source?
[09-Oct-2007 15:08:51] <progma> how do i disable alerting on a service in /events/status/ipservices
[09-Oct-2007 15:12:14] <Merciless> you go onto the device and then click on the ipservice in the os tab and set monitoring to false
[09-Oct-2007 15:15:17] <progma> events are still coming up in the event console though, even after disabling it that way
[09-Oct-2007 15:18:53] <Merciless> did u acknoledge them and move them to history?
[09-Oct-2007 15:19:08] <Merciless> dont remove them from the os tab.. just disable monitoring on them
[09-Oct-2007 15:19:48] <progma> how do move them to history
[09-Oct-2007 15:20:12] <Merciless> in event console click the checkbox, then in the drop down menu move to history
[09-Oct-2007 15:20:20] <Merciless> checkbox next to the alerts that is
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:06] <progma> ok, got some new ones
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:38] <progma> after i moved the ack'd ones to history
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:49] <Merciless> oh
[09-Oct-2007 15:31:50] <Merciless> that sucks
[09-Oct-2007 15:32:10] <Merciless> so you click on the device in the alert.. and click the hardware tab.. anything listed under ipservices?
[09-Oct-2007 15:34:38] <progma> if i click on the device and go to the OS tab, smtp is not listed as an IP service
[09-Oct-2007 15:37:25] <Merciless> what if you untick monitored
[09-Oct-2007 15:37:27] <Merciless> is it listed then?
[09-Oct-2007 15:40:37] <progma> let me get back to you on that - thx for the info
[09-Oct-2007 15:42:57] <Merciless> np
[09-Oct-2007 16:33:43] <eurowerke> howdy ya'll
[09-Oct-2007 16:33:50] <eurowerke>
[09-Oct-2007 16:34:18] <eurowerke> for some reason, whenever I try to log in to zenoss, on the first login attempt it fails, then it works on the second time
[09-Oct-2007 16:34:21] <eurowerke> anyone have any clue?
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:00] <eurowerke> it does this whenever I come back in after closing the browser window, so I'm thinking maybe something is up with the session
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:05] <eurowerke> if I logout then log back in, it works fine
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:48] <eurowerke> http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=503231
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:51] <eurowerke> whoops
[09-Oct-2007 16:35:57] <eurowerke> !
[09-Oct-2007 16:38:20] jasonj is now known as xoritor
[09-Oct-2007 16:40:15] <xoritor> good morning
[09-Oct-2007 18:16:47] <mutil8> anybody monitoring an IBM SAN?
[09-Oct-2007 18:17:00] <mutil8> DS3000 series specifically, but i'll take info on any of them
[09-Oct-2007 18:42:03] <xoritor> anyone here have an issue with loosing the OS/HW information stored for the devices?
[09-Oct-2007 18:42:34] <xoritor> ie... OS Vendor OS Version HW Vendor etc..
[09-Oct-2007 18:42:52] <xoritor> I can populate them then a few hours later they are blank
[09-Oct-2007 18:50:41] <mutil8> nope
[09-Oct-2007 18:50:56] <mutil8> are they grabbing that info from SNMP any way?
[09-Oct-2007 18:51:01] <mutil8> i know dells feed some of that info
[09-Oct-2007 18:51:39] <xoritor> no
[09-Oct-2007 18:51:48] <xoritor> let me check the dell systems real fast
[09-Oct-2007 18:52:19] <xoritor> hmm
[09-Oct-2007 18:52:27] <xoritor> the dell systems are actually populated
[09-Oct-2007 18:52:31] <xoritor> interesting
[09-Oct-2007 18:53:18] <xoritor> so i guess i either need to figure out how to make snmp give that data up, or tell zenoss not to "read" it from the remote systems and wipe out my hand entered data
[09-Oct-2007 18:53:25] <xoritor> thx for that... didnt think of it
[09-Oct-2007 18:58:34] <mutil8> np
[09-Oct-2007 19:05:17] <xoritor> hmm i dunno
[09-Oct-2007 19:18:54] <mutil8> my PE1800's fill in serial number, hw model, os version
[09-Oct-2007 19:19:04] <mutil8> they leave hw manufacturer as unknown, as well as os manufacturer
[09-Oct-2007 19:25:58] <jp10558> Hmmm
[09-Oct-2007 19:26:53] <jp10558> Is there a way to set up (maybe a default?) that if you get a "Device is down" event, you don't need events/alerts that the SNMP service, SMTP service, etc... is down?
[09-Oct-2007 19:52:57] <xoritor> what snmp oid brings back the values used in HW Make
[09-Oct-2007 19:53:10] <xoritor> and HW Model
[09-Oct-2007 19:53:14] <xoritor> etc...
[09-Oct-2007 20:56:15] <mutil8> xoritor: let me take a look, i'll see if i can dig it up
[09-Oct-2007 20:57:32] <mutil8> 1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.300.10.1.9.1 is HW Model
[09-Oct-2007 20:57:49] <mutil8> 1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.300.10.1.11.1 is Serial Number
[09-Oct-2007 20:59:24] <mutil8> atleast on my PE1800
[09-Oct-2007 21:29:39] <davetoo> Feh. py-rrdtool's first() function is b0rked.
[09-Oct-2007 21:30:15] <davetoo> It won't let you specify which rra to look at, which means you always get the first sample in the highest-resolution, shortest-term RRA.
[09-Oct-2007 21:30:28] <davetoo> Does nothing to tell you how "full" the rrd is or not.
[09-Oct-2007 21:30:59] <davetoo> I'm trying to write a script to eliminate duplicates and I need to choose the "best" device to keep.
[09-Oct-2007 21:31:12] <davetoo> maybe rrd data isn't the way
[09-Oct-2007 21:34:42] <davetoo> This is not as easy to automate as I'd hoped
[09-Oct-2007 21:41:44] <kgoedtel> what do you mean by "It won't let you specify which rra to look at"
[09-Oct-2007 21:49:21] <davetoo> The command-line invocation is "rrdtool first [--rraindex n]"
[09-Oct-2007 21:49:32] <davetoo> There's no way to specify that index in the python lib
[09-Oct-2007 21:49:42] <davetoo> as far as I can tell
[09-Oct-2007 21:50:46] <kgoedtel> that sucks
[09-Oct-2007 21:50:55] <kgoedtel> what is this script doing if i may ask?
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:28] <davetoo> I have a bunch of devices that were added twice by my other tools,
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:36] <davetoo> once by IP address and once by FQDN
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:51] <kgoedtel> ahhh
[09-Oct-2007 21:51:56] <davetoo> and I need to get rid of the one with the "worst" data and rename it to the FQDN
[09-Oct-2007 21:52:08] <kgoedtel> interesting
[09-Oct-2007 21:55:09] <kgoedtel> i am completely unfamiliar with python
[09-Oct-2007 21:55:28] <kgoedtel> can't you call 'rrdtool first' ?
[09-Oct-2007 21:55:35] <davetoo> Zenoss is causing me to learn it
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:02] <kgoedtel> i think i will stick to perl :]
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:12] <kgoedtel> python is to OO for me
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:15] <davetoo> Yeah, as a last resort I could exec it in a shell, trap the results, parse the string into a datetime object
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:21] <davetoo> heh
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:26] <davetoo> you should see my perl code
[09-Oct-2007 21:56:44] <kgoedtel> oh?
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:04] <davetoo> major OO
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:04] <davetoo> major OO
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:09] <davetoo> (hmm, odd buffering)
[09-Oct-2007 21:57:40] <kgoedtel> i just cant think in terms of ukranian stacking dolls :|
[09-Oct-2007 21:58:27] <kgoedtel> ive made 7 lines of changes to zenoss for myself and that was enough for me
[09-Oct-2007 21:58:28] <davetoo> OO helps me keep down the number of things I have to remember at once
[09-Oct-2007 22:00:50] <kgoedtel> i wish i could get this question asnwered
[09-Oct-2007 22:00:52] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3542
[09-Oct-2007 22:01:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Custom threshold using snmp oid value (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Oct-2007 22:06:58] <daveto1> .
[09-Oct-2007 23:36:49] <monrad> hi bzed
[09-Oct-2007 23:37:07] <monrad> busy commiting?
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[10-Oct-2007 01:14:53] <OBM> how do I update zenoss from the cli?
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:07] <OBM> or failing that, how do I get the web browser update behind a proxy
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:12] <OBM> *working
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:23] <OBM> atm i click update and it just sits there doing nothing
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:38] <OBM> presumably because it can't connect as it's in a DMZ
[10-Oct-2007 01:15:54] <OBM> even though i set a path variable for http proxy under the zenoss user account
[10-Oct-2007 01:37:32] <ServicesPlus> Hi
[10-Oct-2007 01:37:51] <ServicesPlus> Anyone here?
[10-Oct-2007 01:41:14] <ServicesPlus> A question about the installation under Slackware
[10-Oct-2007 01:41:58] <ServicesPlus> Need your help!
[10-Oct-2007 01:42:20] <ServicesPlus> A newbie on Zenoss.
[10-Oct-2007 01:44:56] <ServicesPlus> No one answer?
[10-Oct-2007 01:46:15] <OBM> should be the same as source install under other linux
[10-Oct-2007 01:46:58] <ServicesPlus> an error msg, can not find the root cause, the error msg is
[10-Oct-2007 01:47:14] <ServicesPlus> gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/_mysql.o -L/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient_o
[10-Oct-2007 01:47:14] <ServicesPlus> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10-Oct-2007 01:48:55] <ServicesPlus> gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/_mysql.o -L/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient_o
[10-Oct-2007 01:49:25] <ServicesPlus> '/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/3.4.6/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqr'
[10-Oct-2007 01:51:46] <OBM> got me stuffed mate
[10-Oct-2007 01:51:53] <OBM> i installed under debian no dramas
[10-Oct-2007 01:51:59] <OBM> and under ubuntu no dramas
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:02] <OBM> both from source
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:18] <OBM> did you make sure you got all the dependencies?
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:22] <ServicesPlus> "/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/3.4.6/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysql
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:22] <ServicesPlus> client_r
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:24] <OBM> there were quite a few of them
[10-Oct-2007 01:52:49] <ServicesPlus> Yes, I'd installed mysql/swig/python
[10-Oct-2007 01:53:22] <ServicesPlus> the quesiton should be the link on mysqlclient_r, i think.
[10-Oct-2007 01:54:05] <ServicesPlus> the error msg is "cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[10-Oct-2007 01:54:13] <OBM> that would be my guess
[10-Oct-2007 01:55:09] <OBM> forums is your best bet
[10-Oct-2007 01:55:24] <OBM> i asked a question over 30 minutes ago and no reply
[10-Oct-2007 01:55:31] <OBM> as I'm guessing most ppl in chan are in US time zone
[10-Oct-2007 01:56:26] <ServicesPlus> Ok, thanks for your suggestion
[10-Oct-2007 01:56:35] <ServicesPlus> I'm from China, and u?
[10-Oct-2007 01:57:25] <OBM> Australia
[10-Oct-2007 02:01:37] <ServicesPlus> It's a good place for living
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[10-Oct-2007 06:50:55] <OBM> anyone know of a way to update zenoss from cli?
[10-Oct-2007 12:08:16] <lwilke> hi, i am evaluating zenoss atm, and i am wondering if there is a matrix or something comparing the featueres fo the core vs enterprise edition
[10-Oct-2007 12:08:37] <lwilke> i.e. core includes this not while enterprise does
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:20] <progma> Merciless:
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:21] <progma> 11:37 < Merciless> what if you untick monitored
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:21] <progma> 11:37 < Merciless> is it listed then?
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:42] <progma> yes, and a bunch of other services
[10-Oct-2007 12:14:56] * progma goes to check if there's a flood of emails
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:29] <Merciless> Hmm
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:40] <progma> Merciless: what i mean to say is, previously, only snmp was listed, but when i unticked monitored, a bunch of other services on the box were listed as well (such as smtp, which wasn't listed before)
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:46] <Merciless> so its listed as an unmonitored service, but even after acknowleding and moving the alert to history you still get an alert?
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:55] <progma> yes it's like a vicious cycle
[10-Oct-2007 12:17:59] <Merciless> whats the exact alert for again?
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:00] <Merciless> smtp?
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:04] <progma> hold
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:08] <Merciless> *holds*
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:27] <Merciless> lwilke -- theres not much diff except more advanced reporting and also support from official zenoss
[10-Oct-2007 12:18:31] <Merciless> rather than just the community
[10-Oct-2007 12:19:20] <progma> IP Service smtp is down
[10-Oct-2007 12:19:30] <progma> eventClass /Status/IpService
[10-Oct-2007 12:19:45] <Merciless> ok when you click on the device, on the overview screen for that device is there "smtp" and a red circle
[10-Oct-2007 12:20:13] <progma> nope, it's green as it should be ; all the others are grayed out as they should be
[10-Oct-2007 12:20:34] <progma> so, if i check snmp and click "Monitored" again while leaving the rest unchecked
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:00] <Merciless> :s
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:13] <Merciless> if its green that means that it thinks SMTP is enabled, and that its being monitored
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:14] <Merciless> lol
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:21] <lwilke> Merciless: is there a MOM feature included in core?
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:24] <progma> oh sorry, snmp not smtp
[10-Oct-2007 12:21:27] <progma> smtp is grayed out
[10-Oct-2007 12:22:45] <progma> snmp is the only service i want to monitor for now
[10-Oct-2007 12:23:07] <progma> so i ticked snmp and then ticked monitored back on hmm
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:06] <progma> let's see if event console continues to complain about a service being down that i'm not monitoring
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:19] <Merciless> lol
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:21] <progma> nope, still doing it
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:41] <Merciless> :s
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:48] <progma> weirdness
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:54] <Merciless> definitely
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:55] <progma> i wish i built this from scratch myself
[10-Oct-2007 12:25:58] <Merciless> rofl
[10-Oct-2007 12:26:01] <Merciless> i got so many bugs as well
[10-Oct-2007 12:26:02] <progma> i hate walking into someone else's setup
[10-Oct-2007 12:26:04] <Merciless> doing my head in
[10-Oct-2007 12:30:32] <progma> yah i've got plenty more i don't even know how to explain yet
[10-Oct-2007 12:30:34] <progma> all in due time
[10-Oct-2007 12:31:57] <bzed> monrad: with some luck we'll be able to upload zenoss to experimental today or tomorrow
[10-Oct-2007 12:46:24] <monrad> bzed: sounds nice
[10-Oct-2007 12:52:31] <progma> bzed: where are you at right now
[10-Oct-2007 12:52:37] <progma> what version i mean
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:00] <bzed> progma: latest beta
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:03] <bzed> well
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:07] <bzed> the beta that will come out today
[10-Oct-2007 12:55:14] <bzed> or is supposed to come out today
[10-Oct-2007 13:00:12] <progma> say, if a device's name is different from the SNMP sysName set in snmpd.conf, will zenoss see this as two hosts using the same ip and produce an alert? i think that's what is going on here
[10-Oct-2007 13:04:37] <bzed> don;t think so. can;t test it right now, though
[10-Oct-2007 14:08:49] <xoritor> ok, what can i put into zenoss and where can I put it to have zenoss populate
[10-Oct-2007 14:08:49] <xoritor> HW Model
[10-Oct-2007 14:08:49] <xoritor> Net-SNMP Agent
[10-Oct-2007 14:09:35] <xoritor> maybe I want to put it into net-snmp and have it seen by zenoss... i am just not sure what zenoss "reads" from snmp to get that information
[10-Oct-2007 14:30:48] <incorrect> how can i get hardware info into zenoss?
[10-Oct-2007 14:30:57] <incorrect> say from my dell omsa kit
[10-Oct-2007 14:31:15] <xoritor> incorrect: i get it from snmp automatically
[10-Oct-2007 14:31:30] <xoritor> the dell hardware collectors are already there
[10-Oct-2007 14:31:55] <xoritor> although... they are not 100% accurate
[10-Oct-2007 14:32:25] <xoritor> incorrect: what hardware information are you looking for specifically?
[10-Oct-2007 14:33:36] <incorrect> temp disk failures etc
[10-Oct-2007 14:33:46] <incorrect> i've managed to get the service tag via snmp
[10-Oct-2007 14:33:53] <incorrect> but it would be nice to get more
[10-Oct-2007 14:34:18] <xoritor> hmm
[10-Oct-2007 14:34:40] <xoritor> look at linux.dell.com and see if they have a mib for the omsa stuff
[10-Oct-2007 14:35:04] <incorrect> i installed some mibs that were left behind
[10-Oct-2007 14:36:28] <incorrect> i've got a complete PCI bus listing back
[10-Oct-2007 14:36:49] <xoritor> did you look at the "collectors"?
[10-Oct-2007 14:38:13] <incorrect> nope
[10-Oct-2007 14:38:19] <incorrect> where are those configured?
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:34] <xoritor> in the device there is a drop down menu... in that menu the "more" submenu contains an item for "collectors"
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:45] <xoritor> you can do it for lots of devices
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:52] <xoritor> individual devieces
[10-Oct-2007 14:39:53] <xoritor> etc...
[10-Oct-2007 14:40:05] <xoritor> i think thats where it is
[10-Oct-2007 14:40:10] <incorrect> thanks
[10-Oct-2007 14:40:23] <xoritor> grab the pdf guide and it show you how to do that
[10-Oct-2007 14:43:47] <incorrect> done it
thanks, it would appear i don't have things like temp monitors[10-Oct-2007 14:48:07] <incorrect> can i run commands against mysql?
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:09] <progma> incorrect: if you install omsa, it should have modified snmpd with the dell oid
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:10] <progma> s
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:18] <incorrect> i have progma
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:29] <progma> incorrect: can you snmpwalk them
[10-Oct-2007 14:48:38] <incorrect> smuxpeer .1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:03] <incorrect> yep
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:04] <progma> incorrect: can you see temps in the web admin (on port 1311)
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:38] <incorrect> pretty sure i could
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:40] <incorrect> let me double check
[10-Oct-2007 14:49:52] <incorrect> yes i can
[10-Oct-2007 14:51:39] <progma> hey, if system.sysName doesn't match the device name used by zenoss is this going to confuse zenoss
[10-Oct-2007 14:53:16] <incorrect> no idea
[10-Oct-2007 14:55:27] <progma> me either
[10-Oct-2007 14:59:58] <incorrect> well my hp procurves are generating nice graphs
[10-Oct-2007 15:03:21] <incorrect> what are zenpacks?
[10-Oct-2007 15:18:18] <incorrect> is there a web site other than mibdepot that i can get mib files?
[10-Oct-2007 15:27:05] <mutil8> your hardware manufacturer typically has it
[10-Oct-2007 15:31:44] <incorrect> thanks
[10-Oct-2007 15:33:35] <mutil8> what HP's are you using?
[10-Oct-2007 15:33:44] <mutil8> i've got a 4202vl72 here
[10-Oct-2007 15:34:34] <incorrect> 5406zl
[10-Oct-2007 15:34:44] <incorrect> and a couple of 2650
[10-Oct-2007 15:37:37] <mutil8> do you get anything under 'perf'?
[10-Oct-2007 15:37:48] <mutil8> or do you have to go into OS and then look at each interface?
[10-Oct-2007 15:39:28] <incorrect> not a thing
[10-Oct-2007 15:39:38] <incorrect> i look at each interface
[10-Oct-2007 15:40:18] <incorrect> i like zenoss, however, i think there is still a lot going for a nagios/cacti setup
[10-Oct-2007 15:41:16] <creiht> mutil8: What do you want to see under perf?
[10-Oct-2007 15:41:42] <creiht> perf is for cpu and memory stats
[10-Oct-2007 15:41:59] <incorrect> it would be nice to be able to create a list of graphs like cacti
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:15] <creiht> incorrect: I think that will be coming eventually
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:24] <incorrect> fair enough!
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:32] <creiht> It is easy to do though if you need to
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:39] <creiht> For example we have a corporate wiki
[10-Oct-2007 15:42:49] <creiht> and I have created pages that link to specific graphs
[10-Oct-2007 15:43:05] <creiht> So that we can get a quick overview of how important systems are working
[10-Oct-2007 15:43:23] <mutil8> creiht: nothing, just wondering
[10-Oct-2007 15:43:24] <incorrect> i think its just odd having empty tabs
[10-Oct-2007 15:44:19] <creiht> Well they are there for consistency's sake
[10-Oct-2007 15:44:58] <creiht> And you might want to add perf graphs at some point, say you are using a cisco switch and add the mibs that monitor the cpu of the switch
[10-Oct-2007 15:56:12] <incorrect> yeah i wish i could get that working
[10-Oct-2007 16:00:40] <incorrect> i think i need to get more collector plugins
[10-Oct-2007 16:01:56] <creiht> incorrect: It is mostly just creating a performance template for your device
[10-Oct-2007 16:02:38] <creiht> Figure out what mibs you want to watch, set them up as data sources, and then assign those data sources to graphs
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:00] <creiht> You could look at the perf template of a server device to see what that might need to look like
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:31] <incorrect> yeah i was looking at doing that
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:40] <incorrect> i just hoped it could be easier
[10-Oct-2007 16:03:44] <creiht> ahh
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:08] <incorrect> ok should i say, i am lazy
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:11] <creiht> haha
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:15] <creiht> Aren't we all?
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:16] <creiht>
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:33] <incorrect> why did i pick zenoss, because nagios doesn't have network scanning
[10-Oct-2007 16:04:44] <incorrect> and i am too tired to create the config files
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:00] <incorrect> shame cacti and nagios don't merge into a singe app
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:14] <creiht> The nice thing about zenoss is that it comes pre set up with a decent set of defaults
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:25] <incorrect> yup
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:39] <creiht> the tough thing is that with routers and switches is that they all expose performance information differently
[10-Oct-2007 16:05:44] <incorrect> i want to test the network alert, whats the best way to flood a remote box?
[10-Oct-2007 16:06:13] <creiht> distributed nmap?
[10-Oct-2007 16:06:19] <creiht> gotta run... bbl
[10-Oct-2007 16:06:36] <incorrect> bye
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[10-Oct-2007 16:57:05] <monrad> anyone have problems with zeopack?
[10-Oct-2007 16:57:35] <monrad> ImportError: No module named ZEO.ClientStorage
[10-Oct-2007 16:57:38] <monrad> i get that
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[10-Oct-2007 18:00:13] <f00> hello
[10-Oct-2007 18:00:35] <f00> I plan to move from nagios to zenoss, maintaining the monitoring server on my own
[10-Oct-2007 18:00:45] <f00> is it possible to buy email support alone?
[10-Oct-2007 18:01:56] <creiht> f00: Not sure, I would send them an email, and see what they say
[10-Oct-2007 18:02:49] <f00> thanks
[10-Oct-2007 18:03:24] <f00> I have some unusual requirements and I would like to ask you if they are likely doable with zenoss
[10-Oct-2007 18:03:52] <f00> briefly, I have complex SLAs that state different requirements for different periods of time
[10-Oct-2007 18:03:53] <creiht> f00: You never know until you ask
[10-Oct-2007 18:04:52] <f00> for example: during night service must be up for > 75% and RTT on hour-basis average minor than 40ms, during day other stuff, during holydays other again
[10-Oct-2007 18:05:06] <f00> basically, reporting should be split
[10-Oct-2007 18:05:15] <f00> is such a thing possible?
[10-Oct-2007 18:07:18] <dschrock> f00 : right now, RTT can't be measured in zenoss... the ping functionality built-in is only useful for up/down status...
[10-Oct-2007 18:07:42] <f00> dschrock: RTT is an advanced feature I don't expect in the immediate
[10-Oct-2007 18:07:43] <dschrock> if you are using tcp, then it should be doable
[10-Oct-2007 18:08:10] <f00> the prominent part is if it's possible to generate multiple reports that focus different timeslices
[10-Oct-2007 18:08:43] <f00> by doable I mean it requires less than 1 week to realize
[10-Oct-2007 19:24:15] <jfchevrette> Hi !
[10-Oct-2007 19:25:17] <jfchevrette> I have a question regarding zenoss, I'm running beta 2.0.92 so I'm not sure if this could be a bug or if it's a feature
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[10-Oct-2007 22:03:31] <jerris> So, 2.0.93 just came out. Anybody know if they have a changelog somewhere?
[10-Oct-2007 22:10:06] <kgoedtel> just this info afaik
[10-Oct-2007 22:10:07] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11641#11641
[10-Oct-2007 22:10:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss Core Beta 2.1 - Version 2.0.93 Available (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Oct-2007 23:40:47] <monrad> are there any upgrade issues?
[10-Oct-2007 23:43:35] <monrad> maybe bzed will give us some deb packages to play around with soon
[10-Oct-2007 23:46:04] <monrad> Added ApachePack and MySqlMonitor ZenPacks. <- guess thats for enterprise
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[11-Oct-2007 12:02:26] <|robert|> Hi, I've just installed zenoss-2.0.6-0.el5.i386.rpm on a centos5, and I'm getting this at starting it:
[11-Oct-2007 12:02:27] <|robert|> AttributeError: /opt/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[11-Oct-2007 12:03:07] <|robert|> hier is the full output
[11-Oct-2007 12:03:10] <|robert|> http://pastebin.com/m376736c7
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[11-Oct-2007 14:32:01] <pablo26> hi all
[11-Oct-2007 14:35:20] <pablo26> i'm having problem using mix-in templates i've created a template in /devices/externalsites (and also copied to /devices ) i want to add it to a server, if i bin templates from the menu the existing template (/device/server/windows) dissapairif i add it from zProperties of the devices it wont appear
[11-Oct-2007 15:09:43] <fiXXXerMet> Wondering if any of you monitor any toshiba strata devices (chsub672a/chsue672a) with snmp / zenoss?
[11-Oct-2007 15:32:37] <pablo26> have anyone used the HttpMonitor available on the zenoss page?
[11-Oct-2007 15:33:11] <kgoedtel> i have
[11-Oct-2007 15:34:27] <pablo26> i'm getting a warning HTTP OK
[11-Oct-2007 15:34:42] <pablo26> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[11-Oct-2007 15:35:01] <kgoedtel> it's sending an alert?
[11-Oct-2007 15:35:33] <pablo26> yes
[11-Oct-2007 15:36:47] <kgoedtel> hmm you shouldnt be getting a warning from that
[11-Oct-2007 15:37:06] <kgoedtel> HTTP OK is what the nagios plugin states when the connection is successful
[11-Oct-2007 15:38:00] <kgoedtel> did you try your same options from the command line?
[11-Oct-2007 15:38:07] <kgoedtel> using check_http
[11-Oct-2007 15:38:35] <pablo26> no, but i have used as a COMMAND and worked ok
[11-Oct-2007 16:15:00] <pablo26> kgoedtel i've set up the same template with the same config (the only difference is the port) and the one withour a redirection works ok the other gives me the warning
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[11-Oct-2007 17:53:13] <fiXXXerMet> I can't get notifications working no matter what I try. Could someone help me?
[11-Oct-2007 18:02:17] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: What problem are you having?
[11-Oct-2007 18:04:17] <fiXXXerMet> I make an alert rule for an event and never get notified
[11-Oct-2007 18:04:24] <fiXXXerMet> Nothing even in the mail logs so the alert isn't being generated.
[11-Oct-2007 18:06:48] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: A couple of things that you can check
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:05] <creiht> firs check that it can send the mail by clicking the test button next to your email
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:12] <fiXXXerMet> Done that, and it works
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:30] <creiht> second check the zenaction.log in $ZENHOME/log to see if any errors are showing up there
[11-Oct-2007 18:07:59] <creiht> third make sure that the event is throwing an error high enough for your alert to trigger
[11-Oct-2007 18:08:45] <creiht> Also make sure that the alert is enabled
[11-Oct-2007 18:09:02] <creiht> Did you add any other filters besides the default filters?
[11-Oct-2007 18:10:03] <fiXXXerMet> zenactions.log is just full of INFOs
[11-Oct-2007 18:11:34] <fiXXXerMet> My rule is Enabled, severity = critical (which we just had 3 of)
[11-Oct-2007 18:14:07] <fiXXXerMet> Is it OK to create the rule for the admin user and then specicfy an alternate email address?
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:09] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Should be... I have done that before
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:19] <fiXXXerMet> ok
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:33] <creiht> When an alert actually sends an email you should see it logged in zenactions.log
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:42] <creiht> Do you have delay set?
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:52] <fiXXXerMet> No (0)
[11-Oct-2007 18:16:59] <creiht> And is the device in a production status?
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:11] <fiXXXerMet> Yeah, but I took that out of the rule
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:19] <creiht> ok
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:21] <creiht> hrm
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:29] <creiht> oh
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:37] <creiht> How along ago did you create the rule?
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:53] <fiXXXerMet> Weeks
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:55] <fiXXXerMet> ago
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:56] <creiht> ahh
[11-Oct-2007 18:17:57] <creiht> ok
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:33] <fiXXXerMet> creiht: http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/yqskcu.jpg how does that look?
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:46] <creiht> wow
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:53] <creiht> that is about as simple as you can get
[11-Oct-2007 18:19:56] <fiXXXerMet> yeah lol
[11-Oct-2007 18:20:41] <creiht> can you post an screen shot of the event page that has the event on it that you are expecting a page for?
[11-Oct-2007 18:21:45] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/nbqrhe.jpg
[11-Oct-2007 18:23:19] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Hrm... can you click on one of the magnifying glasses and post that?
[11-Oct-2007 18:23:29] <fiXXXerMet> sure, matter which one, or which tab?
[11-Oct-2007 18:23:58] <creiht> any one
[11-Oct-2007 18:24:25] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/bkfxjx.jpg
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:23] <creiht> That is odd
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:28] <creiht> Everything looks in line to me
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:50] <creiht> As far as I can tell it should work
[11-Oct-2007 18:25:55] <creiht> not sure why you are not getting anything
[11-Oct-2007 18:26:18] <fiXXXerMet> I had the rule creatd for another user. I'll delete the user and set the rule for admin and try again
[11-Oct-2007 18:26:49] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: The only other thing that you might try is changing the box to a production state
[11-Oct-2007 18:26:56] <creiht> Just to see if that is affecting it somehow
[11-Oct-2007 18:27:00] <creiht> I know the rule isn't set
[11-Oct-2007 18:27:20] <creiht> But there are other places in Zenoss where it doesn't do certain things if it is not in production
[11-Oct-2007 18:28:48] <Rocinante> Quick question; I upgraded from 1.1.1 (I think) to 2.0.6, and it seems that zCollectorPlugins is empty for everything. Where do I find a list of "defaults", or at least what does what, so I can repopulate it?
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[11-Oct-2007 23:24:33] <Rocinante> Oh well.
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[12-Oct-2007 06:23:48] <darkhorse> does anyone know off hand why performance reports would break with a traceback
[12-Oct-2007 09:47:47] <viviersf> how can i back up my ipservice settings ?
[12-Oct-2007 09:58:39] <viviersf> and
[12-Oct-2007 09:58:57] <viviersf> why dont i have any info on the performance tab ?
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[12-Oct-2007 11:52:37] <Serialchiller> hello everyone
[12-Oct-2007 11:55:31] <Serialchiller> I have a mysql database with asset info, I would like to update this for the monitored hosts within zeneoss what would be the easiest way to update this dynamicly, so when I update the database zenoss will be updated too?
[12-Oct-2007 12:20:15] <progma> no idea, but maybe editing snmpd.conf with system info and running a discovery and device model?
[12-Oct-2007 12:25:02] <Serialchiller> only 2 values are I think allowed there which is loction however that is a different to the query that the location goole maps uses
[12-Oct-2007 12:25:58] <progma> oh ok, way over my head :|
[12-Oct-2007 12:26:22] <progma> would love to hear the solution
[12-Oct-2007 12:27:19] <Serialchiller> I really hope some can help me out here as I am using zenoss in a very dynamic environment and I don't feel much for updating the monitoring system with asset info, etc
[12-Oct-2007 12:31:29] <Serialchiller> manually
[12-Oct-2007 12:38:43] <progma> i can definitely understand that
[12-Oct-2007 12:38:53] <progma> is there a way to export to xml
[12-Oct-2007 12:40:00] <progma> i'm pretty sure you can import device info to zenoss via xml
[12-Oct-2007 12:42:46] <progma> anyone use Zwiki?
[12-Oct-2007 13:37:40] <Serialchiller> Anyone wake here?
[12-Oct-2007 13:38:19] <Serialchiller> or is everyone Chilling!
[12-Oct-2007 13:38:41] <progma> it's friiiidaayyyyyy
[12-Oct-2007 13:40:31] <Serialchiller> two more hours till beer o'clock
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:04] <progma> euro?
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:14] <Serialchiller> yes amsterdam
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:28] <Serialchiller> where are you?
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:31] <progma> heh cool
[12-Oct-2007 13:41:35] <progma> wash dc area
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:15] <Serialchiller> so it;s like 9;42 am there?
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:25] <progma> yup
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:49] <Serialchiller> ok what do you do?
[12-Oct-2007 13:42:58] <progma> sysadmin
[12-Oct-2007 13:43:08] <Serialchiller> used to be sysadm
[12-Oct-2007 14:28:12] <Serialchiller> I have a mysql database with asset info, I would like to update this for the monitored hosts within zeneoss what would be the easiest way to update this dynamicly, so when I update the database zenoss will be updated too?
[12-Oct-2007 14:46:35] <progma> how do i get raw events
[12-Oct-2007 14:46:53] <progma> i can only see the 1st and last events in the event console
[12-Oct-2007 14:47:09] <progma> can i just hit a flat file similar to /var/log/messages and grep around?
[12-Oct-2007 14:47:12] <Tinozaure> Hello, I am looking for some ethernet stress tool to test a router.
[12-Oct-2007 14:47:23] <davetoo> progma: it's in the mysql Events database
[12-Oct-2007 14:49:12] <creiht> progma: You can also go to the history for the device
[12-Oct-2007 14:49:34] <creiht> It will show you all of the events
[12-Oct-2007 14:49:41] <creiht> You can also export that
[12-Oct-2007 14:51:55] <creiht> hrm... Well I just realized that you will not see the "raw" events, but only past evetns.. so yeah you need to get it from the mysql db
[12-Oct-2007 14:52:56] <davetoo> actually I'm not certain if the database contains anything but state-changes, either.
[12-Oct-2007 14:53:16] <davetoo> I haven't looked but it seems logical that in order to save space they'd only save changes in the event state
[12-Oct-2007 14:55:28] <Serialchiller> do you guys know who I can update the info of each host
[12-Oct-2007 14:59:24] <progma> davetoo: yes that makes sense and thanks for the help
[12-Oct-2007 15:07:43] <progma> where's a good start for reporting
[12-Oct-2007 15:19:17] <progma> i.e. how would i generate a report based on a few events that happened last night
[12-Oct-2007 15:20:01] <progma> i know the date range, and by going through the raw events db i can find what i'm looking for *eventually*
[12-Oct-2007 15:21:48] <progma> in the query field of creating a report, does it have to be python
[12-Oct-2007 15:30:32] <progma> if so are there example python queries
[12-Oct-2007 15:59:56] <progma> ok how about a nice faq on report generation?
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[12-Oct-2007 17:38:34] <dowdle> Greetings. So have you guys ever considered making an OpenVZ OS Template for Zenoss? You have a VMware image.
[12-Oct-2007 17:39:02] <dowdle> Or is the VMware image just for Windows users?
[12-Oct-2007 18:48:23] <mutil8> so anybody monitoring a dell blade center?
[12-Oct-2007 19:05:52] <progma> mutil8: heya
[12-Oct-2007 19:25:04] <progma> mutil8: have you messed with reporting yet
[12-Oct-2007 19:39:53] <mutil8> nope!
[12-Oct-2007 19:40:00] <mutil8> but i'm going to need to
[12-Oct-2007 19:40:08] <mutil8> i clicked around in it a little, but haven't created my own yet
[12-Oct-2007 19:40:23] <mutil8> you?
[12-Oct-2007 19:45:04] <darkhorse> does anyone else get errors when you try to view performance reports?
[12-Oct-2007 19:46:29] <darkhorse> http://paste.dtella.org/342
[12-Oct-2007 19:46:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Dtella Paste Service (at paste.dtella.org)
[12-Oct-2007 19:48:32] <mutil8> there's something wrong in your data point
[12-Oct-2007 20:02:04] <darkhorse> hmm
[12-Oct-2007 20:07:08] <progma> mutil8: just trying to; had an issue last night and guy wanted to see if zenoss caught it
[12-Oct-2007 20:07:32] <progma> no easy way of giving a query, so just went to the raw events db and culled it that way
[12-Oct-2007 20:07:51] <progma> while goofing with reporting, trying to figure out syntax for "query" field
[12-Oct-2007 20:08:02] <progma> time to learn python
[12-Oct-2007 20:08:19] <kgoedte1> only thing ive ben able to do is custom organized graphs :[
[12-Oct-2007 20:08:27] <kgoedte1> havent figured out reports yet
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:05] <mutil8> when i get back from my vacation next week i'll probably start messing with graphs
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:28] <mutil8> progma: i should have decent perf templates for PE 1600sc, 1800, 1950, and 1955
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:49] <mutil8> still can't get my 1855 chassis to report all the information i can get by logging into the web interface
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:50] <progma> awesome
[12-Oct-2007 20:12:58] <mutil8> which has all the really important stuff for the 1955 machines
[12-Oct-2007 20:13:15] <progma> the oids are a bit different from PE to PE but i want to see how you did the templates if you don't mind
[12-Oct-2007 20:13:55] <mutil8> sure
[12-Oct-2007 20:20:29] <mutil8> ok, so how do i package up these zenpacks?
[12-Oct-2007 20:21:22] <kgoedte1> there isnt really a good way o do it right now
[12-Oct-2007 20:21:34] <kgoedte1> the export creates broken packs
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:37] <mutil8> doh!
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:42] <mutil8> even in 2.0.6
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:47] <kgoedte1> yap
[12-Oct-2007 20:22:49] <mutil8>
[12-Oct-2007 20:24:22] <mutil8> probably why the multi-core CPU zenpack somebody else sent me wouldn't install
[12-Oct-2007 20:28:14] <progma> doh
[12-Oct-2007 20:42:17] <mutil8> wonder if i zip it myself if it'll work
[12-Oct-2007 20:46:10] <mutil8> god this copy is taking forever
[12-Oct-2007 20:46:18] <mutil8> i have to move 472gb from one box to another
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[13-Oct-2007 16:15:50] <brutuz> when you install zenoss... does it automatically receive traps?
[13-Oct-2007 16:16:38] <brutuz> or I have to configure it first?
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[13-Oct-2007 23:32:10] <m1r> evening
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[14-Oct-2007 00:04:20] <hexbase> hi
[14-Oct-2007 00:04:43] <hexbase> I got a problem using zenoss
[14-Oct-2007 01:58:37] <brutuz> is there a way to change the polling of zenos from v1 to v2c
[14-Oct-2007 01:58:39] <brutuz> ???
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[14-Oct-2007 17:58:16] <stevesz> Hi, I'm stuck with a permission error and I can't see what is wrong. After install (as zenoss) and starting up (as zenoss), I get permission denied on zensocket. It has been set to 04750 and root:zenoss, but obviously there's still some permission error.
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[15-Oct-2007 05:06:30] <stoked> hi all
[15-Oct-2007 05:06:46] <stoked> trying to have my interface graphs update faster than every 5min
[15-Oct-2007 05:07:04] <stoked> was able to change zenoss to poll every 1min
[15-Oct-2007 05:07:23] <stoked> but thoroughput graphs still update at 5min intervals
[15-Oct-2007 05:12:57] <stoked> anyone got any ideas?
[15-Oct-2007 06:14:04] <pizzahead> so I've installed zenoss and I can't seem to figure out how to graph interface traffic yet
[15-Oct-2007 06:16:09] <pizzahead> hmm looks like I was trying to access them wrong
[15-Oct-2007 06:17:54] <pizzahead> ahh there is a real admin guide, time to get reading
[15-Oct-2007 06:18:03] <pizzahead> sorry to waste yoru time
[15-Oct-2007 10:47:02] <incorrect> how can i change the ip addresses that zenoss wants to check a service on?
[15-Oct-2007 11:48:08] <|robert|> Hi, I've a understanding problem. I've added an IP Service and activated it. now its green, but its even green if on that port nothing runs.
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:22] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> hello, i have small problem?
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:35] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> when try to install on fbsd 6.2
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:38] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> get this error
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:38] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> cc is required to build dependent libraries
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:44] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> but i have cc and gcc compiler
[15-Oct-2007 14:21:53] <AuReUs_ReCtOR>
[15-Oct-2007 14:26:54] <AuReUs_ReCtOR> well? anyone?
[15-Oct-2007 14:37:16] <stevesz> Hi, I got an interesting permission problem with being able to use zensocket. Ownership and sudo has been set, it's installed and running as zenoss and sudo has been verified for zenoss. The error is from zenfunctions line 61 zensocket and permission denied. Being new to zenoss I don't know what else to try.
[15-Oct-2007 15:02:40] <Salden> I've been having problems with a few daemons not starting and have traced the problem to be something to do with zenhub. I have run zenhub in debug mode and am seeing traces with the following error. Can anyone help me?
[15-Oct-2007 15:02:41] <Salden> method=request.get('REQUEST_METHOD', 'GET')
[15-Oct-2007 15:02:41] <Salden> exceptions.AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get'
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:06] <Salden> this started in version 2.0.0 and is still present after upgrading to 2.0.6
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:37] <Salden> the reference is to this file:
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:37] <Salden> method=request.get('REQUEST_METHOD', 'GET')
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:37] <Salden> exceptions.AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get'
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:40] <Salden> oops
[15-Oct-2007 15:04:49] <Salden> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py", line 710, in __getitem__
[15-Oct-2007 15:25:21] <stevesz> It does not look like anyone who knows are available...
[15-Oct-2007 15:34:52] <Salden> yup...
[15-Oct-2007 15:35:16] <Salden> we've posted on the forums with no response either now for a couple weeks, it's a pretty serious issues and others have seen it as well
[15-Oct-2007 15:36:08] <stevesz> I would expect a, "soor don't know, we are looking into it" kind of response at a minimum..
[15-Oct-2007 15:36:31] <stevesz> I would expect a, "sorry"
[15-Oct-2007 15:38:45] <Salden> well that hasn't been the case. I've even just uninstalled rpm -e and then reinstalled with rmp -U as someone else supposedly had success with but no dice for me
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[15-Oct-2007 18:21:51] <Y0da^> so what's up
[15-Oct-2007 18:22:22] <Y0da^> can anyone recommend a good distro for setting up zenoss?
[15-Oct-2007 18:26:03] <msw> Y0da^: how about the appliance version?
[15-Oct-2007 18:34:27] <Y0da^> aairplane version?
[15-Oct-2007 18:35:04] <Y0da^> my bad
[15-Oct-2007 18:35:15] <Y0da^> nm
[15-Oct-2007 18:35:19] <Y0da^> lol
[15-Oct-2007 18:37:16] <Y0da^> I'm trying to install zenoss on SLES10, but I keep hosing yast in the process.... any ideas?
[15-Oct-2007 21:01:26] <stoked> anyone know how to increase the graphing interval to 1min from 5min?
[15-Oct-2007 21:34:51] <monrad> bzed_: any news on packages or you been busy?
[15-Oct-2007 21:37:34] <bzed_> monrad: although I didn't read the changes of the last days, I have only a fwe last licensing problems on my list, otherwise the package should be ready. they've added a .swf file now, which is based on a non-distributeable source
[15-Oct-2007 21:37:48] <bzed_> at least non for debian distributeab;e
[15-Oct-2007 21:38:23] <bzed_> so that'll be removed for debian, and probably something to download it added or so - not sure.
[15-Oct-2007 21:38:55] <monrad> ok
[15-Oct-2007 21:39:05] <monrad> but sounds nice
[15-Oct-2007 21:39:20] <bzed_> if I would have more spare time, things would go faster :\
[15-Oct-2007 21:39:29] <bzed_> or somebody has to pay me for zenoss stuff
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[15-Oct-2007 23:37:36] <davetoo> Well, that's no good.
[15-Oct-2007 23:38:05] <davetoo> Removing the CPU threshold from the /Devices/Device template broke 2.0.93
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[16-Oct-2007 00:28:08] <davetoo> dammit
[16-Oct-2007 00:28:18] <davetoo> now I can't even do a zendevicedump
[16-Oct-2007 01:17:02] <stevesz> Has anyone checked to see if they were working today?
[16-Oct-2007 01:22:37] <davetoo> timebomb?
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[16-Oct-2007 03:11:51] <stevesz> Oh, now I get it.
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[16-Oct-2007 14:28:15] <brutuz> im getting twsnmp.protocol: Bad response..
[16-Oct-2007 14:28:21] <brutuz> any idea what is it?
[16-Oct-2007 15:15:20] <brutuz> im getting twsnmp.protocol: Bad response..
[16-Oct-2007 15:15:37] <brutuz> does anyone here have an idea what this error is?
[16-Oct-2007 16:12:27] <monrad> anyone knows if 2.1.0 is going to be released today?
[16-Oct-2007 16:30:05] <eurowerke> h0rk
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[16-Oct-2007 17:23:59] <pablo26> hi all
[16-Oct-2007 17:25:36] <pablo26> i'm having this issue i'e installed the zenpack httpmonitor and i set it up, now i'm getting warnings like HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 84882 bytes in 1.652 seconds
[16-Oct-2007 17:28:14] <eurowerke> that's the output of check_http
[16-Oct-2007 17:28:43] <pablo26> thats the message of the event
[16-Oct-2007 17:33:09] <pablo26> i dont know why it appears as a warning
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[16-Oct-2007 18:34:25] <maj> is there any way to modify how often smtp service is being checked on a specific machine?
[16-Oct-2007 18:35:49] <stoked> yes
[16-Oct-2007 18:36:01] <stoked> can't remember where.. lemme take a quick look
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:01] <pablo26> i dont think so, there is a propery of zcommandCycleTime but not for snmp
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:34] <maj> i need to change smtp check interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:34] <stoked> monitors
[16-Oct-2007 18:37:48] <stoked> performance monitors
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:02] <stevesz> Hi, I got an interesting permission problem with being able to use zensocket. Ownership and sudo has been set, it's installed and running as zenoss and sudo has been verified for zenoss. The error is from zenfunctions line 61 zensocket and permission denied. Being new to zenoss I don't know what else to try.
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:03] <stoked> SNMP Performance Cycle Interval (secs)
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:28] <stoked> think I had to restart one of the daemons to get it to poll at my new interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:38:45] <stoked> but I am trying to get the graph to update at my new interval which I can't seem to do
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:06] <maj> stoked, would that affect all of the machines?
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:22] <stoked> yeah
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:24] <stoked> I believe so
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:32] <maj> any way to change it for a single one?
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:40] <stoked> you can create a new performance monitor
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:45] <stoked> and apply it to your single one I believe
[16-Oct-2007 18:39:54] <maj> hrm, ok
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:02] <maj> i'll try that, thx
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:09] <stoked> np
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:19] <pablo26> i still cant use the httpmonitor
[16-Oct-2007 18:40:30] <stoked> Anyone know how to change the graphing interval?
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:33] <maj> stoked, would smtp service be a performance, or status monitor tho?
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:40] <pablo26> stoked isn't that the same question as changing the interval?
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:44] <maj> i thought it'd be satus
[16-Oct-2007 18:41:59] <stoked> pablo26 no... snmp interval doesn't change the graphing interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:42:17] <stoked> maj I'm not sure
[16-Oct-2007 18:42:39] <stoked> I changed it and ran tcpdump to see if the snmp traffic was going at a diff rate
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:07] <stoked> oh... sorry maj
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:11] <stoked> I read your question wrong...
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:30] <stoked> snmp interval won't check a tcp port check interval
[16-Oct-2007 18:43:35] <stoked> won't change
[16-Oct-2007 18:44:23] <maj> yea... iam talking about smtp
[16-Oct-2007 18:44:32] <maj> sendmail port
[16-Oct-2007 18:44:53] <maj> does that change your answer tho?
[16-Oct-2007 18:48:10] <stoked> my answer won't do what you want
[16-Oct-2007 19:04:06] <maj> any other ideas?
[16-Oct-2007 19:06:51] <[ToT]ALiP> hi Guys ...
[16-Oct-2007 19:10:16] <[ToT]ALiP> Did someone running Zenoss with Lighttpd ?
[16-Oct-2007 19:11:57] <eurowerke> stevesz: is your zensocket setuid?
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:21] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:26] <eurowerke> d0h
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:33] <eurowerke> I figured that was the prob
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:40] <eurowerke> you set it as per the install directions?
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:47] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:49] <eurowerke> 04755, i think?
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:52] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:12:55] <eurowerke> hrm...
[16-Oct-2007 19:13:42] <[ToT]ALiP> chmod 04750
[16-Oct-2007 19:13:57] <stevesz> eurowerke, oh yes, right
[16-Oct-2007 19:14:40] <eurowerke> is zenoss in the sudoers file?
[16-Oct-2007 19:14:42] <eurowerke> user zenoss
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:00] <stevesz> eurowerke, yes
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:21] <eurowerke> hrm
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:25] <eurowerke> I'm out of ideas then..
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:43] <eurowerke> only thing I can think of is that you might want to reinstall again
[16-Oct-2007 19:15:45] <eurowerke>
[16-Oct-2007 19:17:06] <stevesz> eurowerke, done that a few times
[16-Oct-2007 19:23:00] <[ToT]ALiP> a little one, where i can change the port ?
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[17-Oct-2007 01:12:24] <winskie> hi, i'm evaluating zenoss core 2.0 and i'm having a hard time adding my network (10.250.0.0/16), can anyone please help me?
[17-Oct-2007 01:14:33] <winskie> it's 10.1.0.0/16 sorry. whenever i try to add it says that the id contains character illegal in URLs
[17-Oct-2007 04:15:37] <davetoo> OK, now I'm confused.
[17-Oct-2007 04:16:19] <davetoo> zenoss thinks the snmp agent is down on a host, but it can do an snmp walk on that host from the command pulldown.
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[17-Oct-2007 05:31:51] <osc_> hello
[17-Oct-2007 05:47:00] <davetoo> I don't freakin' get it
[17-Oct-2007 05:58:15] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[17-Oct-2007 13:58:45] <m1r> hi all
[17-Oct-2007 14:27:13] <m1r> i have little problem with 2 network cards , how can i detect devices on eth1 which is serving dhcp ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:43:07] <xoritor> good morning everyone
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:01] <jsm> i guess i'm supposed to be punished for upgrading to 2.1.0 ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:18] <xoritor> ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:34] <jsm> the device status page is all whacky
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:36] <xoritor> jsm: what happened?
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:37] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:39] <jsm> looks like malformed html
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:43] <xoritor> im upgrading right now
[17-Oct-2007 15:44:45] <xoritor> :-/
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:05] <jsm> yeah let me know what happens
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:09] <xoritor> i will
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:18] <jsm> my device status page is borked
[17-Oct-2007 15:45:38] <xoritor> ill check that right off... after the migration
[17-Oct-2007 15:46:52] <jsm> it might just be the "new" look
[17-Oct-2007 15:46:59] <jsm> but it looks off
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:02] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:20] <jsm> maybe the CSS is screwed
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:29] <xoritor> what browser do you use?
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:36] <jsm> firefox 2.x
[17-Oct-2007 15:47:53] <xoritor> ok thats what i mainly use for zenoss... its really screwy in anything else
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:03] <xoritor> ie... konqueror, opera, etc...
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:38] <xoritor> well... the "ie..." did not mean internet exploder
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:48] <xoritor> we dont use that
[17-Oct-2007 15:48:57] <xoritor> not even on the windows machines
[17-Oct-2007 15:49:16] <xoritor> im still "starting" daemons
[17-Oct-2007 15:51:40] <xoritor> jsm: this device list does not look any different than the previous "beta" releases did
[17-Oct-2007 15:51:56] <jsm> oh ok, it's just new to me then
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:04] <xoritor> aah
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:13] <jsm> they don't bold things
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:15] <jsm> weird
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:17] <jsm> kinda hard to read
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:23] <xoritor> im guessing you didnt try out any of the beta releases thing right?
[17-Oct-2007 15:52:28] <jsm> nope
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:34] <xoritor> the flash network map thingy still wont draw out my /16 though
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:35] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:49] <jsm> if you go under reports, are all the report titles centered?
[17-Oct-2007 15:53:50] <jsm> that's ugly
[17-Oct-2007 15:54:09] <xoritor> it will do the individual /24 subnets with no problems, but not the /16
[17-Oct-2007 15:54:30] <xoritor> nope
[17-Oct-2007 15:54:41] <xoritor> mine are left aligned
[17-Oct-2007 15:55:55] <jsm> yeah then something's messed up with mine
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:10] <xoritor> do you have a custom style sheet defined
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:12] <xoritor> ?
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:19] <xoritor> or no script installed?
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:31] <xoritor> or anything that could mess with the css or js on the page?
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:32] <jsm> no.. haven't done any customizing of zenoss
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:36] <xoritor> ie... greasemonkey
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:40] <jsm> oh
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:43] <xoritor> i mean in firefox
[17-Oct-2007 15:56:45] <jsm> i do have some plugins
[17-Oct-2007 15:57:10] <xoritor> check to see if you have to let those "allow" your zenoss host:port
[17-Oct-2007 15:57:52] <jsm> even my Mibs are centered
[17-Oct-2007 15:57:59] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:12] <jsm> never had a problem before the upgrade though
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:17] <xoritor> hmm
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:18] <xoritor> odd
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:21] <jsm> i should try opera
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:25] <xoritor> maybe its the new css
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:33] <xoritor> opera is UGLY
[17-Oct-2007 15:58:46] <xoritor> well zenoss in opera is ugly
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:04] <xoritor> about the only thing the new one works in is firefox
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:32] <jsm> actually
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:36] <jsm> it looks fine in Opera
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:39] <jsm> weird
[17-Oct-2007 15:59:50] <jsm> gotta be a plugin conflict then, i think you're right
[17-Oct-2007 16:00:22] <jsm> you using 2.0.0.5?
[17-Oct-2007 16:00:25] <jsm> ffox?
[17-Oct-2007 16:01:48] <xoritor> Fedora/2.0.0.5-1.fc7 Firefox/2.0.0.5
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:07] <jsm> same as me
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:12] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:29] <xoritor> most things look "ok" in opera
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:37] <jsm> weird
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:37] <xoritor> but the dashboard is fubar
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:41] <jsm> i can't figure it out
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:49] <jsm> i have flash block
[17-Oct-2007 16:02:54] <jsm> but i enabled it for my site
[17-Oct-2007 16:03:23] <xoritor> flush your cache close ff and restart it
[17-Oct-2007 16:03:37] <xoritor> there maybe a bad "cache" for that css
[17-Oct-2007 16:03:43] <xoritor> bbiab
[17-Oct-2007 16:06:55] <davetoo> w00t!
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:04] <davetoo> let the downloads begin
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:46] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:49] <jaredo> with 2.0.93, i am having issues with perf graphs displaying
[17-Oct-2007 16:07:53] <jaredo> anyone know of any pending issues?
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:04] <xoritor> jaredo: they have released 2.1
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:05] <jaredo> perf graphs when monitor windows machines only
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:06] <jsm> i'm having some CSS issues with firefox
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:09] <jaredo> oh really
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:09] <xoritor> maybe try the upgrade
[17-Oct-2007 16:08:18] <xoritor> jsm: more than just in zenoss now?
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:05] <jsm> xoritor: ! clearing the cache did it
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:06] <jsm> thanks
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:41] <xoritor> :-D
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:50] <xoritor> np... ff cache is EVIL
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:51] <xoritor> ;-)
[17-Oct-2007 16:09:52] <xoritor> heh
[17-Oct-2007 16:14:48] <Djavo> hello
[17-Oct-2007 16:14:51] <Djavo> to all
[17-Oct-2007 16:17:29] <Djavo> hello to all
[17-Oct-2007 16:18:37] <Djavo> i need some helt for zenoss i traj to log in on Vmplayer bac i can no i use admin/zenoss user/pass and i can't log in
[17-Oct-2007 16:18:50] <Djavo> does sombodi have idea whot is problem
[17-Oct-2007 16:22:16] <jaredo> is there an easy way to upgrade to 2.1 from .93? or is it recommended to reinstall from scratch
[17-Oct-2007 16:22:52] <jaredo> djavo: are you trying to login to the web interface or to the command prompt of the virtual server
[17-Oct-2007 16:24:42] <monrad> i am trying to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.1.0 right now
[17-Oct-2007 16:25:34] <stevesz> I'm looking for all permission needs to debug a permission issue I get reported when firing up. It's not the 04750/zenoss settings, nor the sudo settings. Running V 2.0.6.
[17-Oct-2007 16:25:45] <Djavo> i tray login to the web interface whit admin/zenoss and i can't
[17-Oct-2007 16:26:48] <Djavo> on virtyal mashin i tipe root and i loging on localhot bat i can do enithig
[17-Oct-2007 16:28:00] <Djavo> jaredo do you ther
[17-Oct-2007 16:31:56] <Djavo> ..
[17-Oct-2007 16:32:56] <stevesz> Djavo, what country are you from?
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:04] <Djavo> serbia
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:09] <Djavo>
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:15] <Djavo> you
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:39] <stevesz> That would explain the hard to read English. US
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:54] <Djavo> hehehe
[17-Oct-2007 16:33:56] <Djavo> no
[17-Oct-2007 16:34:12] <Djavo> i do 3 work in one time
[17-Oct-2007 16:34:26] <Djavo> i can't tipe in all in 1s
[17-Oct-2007 16:35:08] <Djavo> i finde zoness soft and whot to test because i use zabbix bat i whot to tray zenoss to
[17-Oct-2007 16:35:26] <Djavo> bat i can't login in zenoss
[17-Oct-2007 16:36:31] <stevesz> I can't type it all in 1 sec either, but I still have a hard time understanding what you say.
[17-Oct-2007 16:36:57] <stevesz> So you are saying you use zabbix but you want to try zenoss too?
[17-Oct-2007 16:37:19] <Djavo> yes
[17-Oct-2007 16:37:47] <Djavo> i whot to try zenoss i download and load in virtual mashine
[17-Oct-2007 16:38:27] <stevesz> The login name is admin and the password is whatever you made it. Just make sure it is running first. You can run $ZENHOME/bin/zenoss status
[17-Oct-2007 16:38:54] <stevesz> whot is want, bat is but
[17-Oct-2007 16:39:05] <Djavo> hmm
[17-Oct-2007 16:39:09] <Djavo> 2sek to try
[17-Oct-2007 16:40:29] <Djavo> i cen't log in i gat The credentials you supplied were not correct or did not grant access to this resource.
[17-Oct-2007 16:41:54] <stevesz> Sounds like you don't know what your password is. But I'm new too so I could be wrong.
[17-Oct-2007 16:42:06] <stevesz> install it again
[17-Oct-2007 16:42:34] <Djavo> i run on virtual mashine
[17-Oct-2007 16:42:55] <stevesz> what does that got to do with anything?
[17-Oct-2007 16:43:27] <stevesz> Ah, resource. The problem is in the VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:44:13] <Djavo> hmm
[17-Oct-2007 16:44:23] <Djavo> in VM?
[17-Oct-2007 16:44:51] <stevesz> Well the word resource is probably related to the virtual machine
[17-Oct-2007 16:46:03] <Djavo> you have idea howe to made on VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:46:20] <Djavo> to test only
[17-Oct-2007 16:47:07] <stevesz> How to make zenoss run in VM? No. But they have a vm module prepared.
[17-Oct-2007 16:47:55] <stevesz> Also you are supposed to browse to port 8080
[17-Oct-2007 16:47:58] <Djavo> yes i download prepared vm modul
[17-Oct-2007 16:48:30] <Djavo> and run on VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:48:37] <stevesz> ?
[17-Oct-2007 16:48:39] <Djavo> tray now on 8080 bat nothing
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:04] <stevesz> sorry, I don't know what your problem is
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:07] <Djavo> https://10.194.176.30:8080/ ... and nothnig
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:23] <stevesz> I'm here trying to get help myself
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:33] <Djavo> do you have maby msn ...
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:37] <stevesz> Try without https just http
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:42] <Djavo> try
[17-Oct-2007 16:49:45] <Djavo> nothing
[17-Oct-2007 16:50:18] <Djavo> i try to update VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:50:19] <stevesz> no I don't use anything ms related if I can avoid it.
[17-Oct-2007 16:50:51] <Djavo> heh... AIM mobby
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:09] <stevesz> I can't help you anyway...
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:17] <stevesz> mobby=maybe
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:23] <Djavo> yes
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:43] <Djavo> a im hungry
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:45] <Djavo>
[17-Oct-2007 16:51:56] <stevesz> I am hungry
[17-Oct-2007 16:52:56] <Djavo> da... I not a ---- da=yes on serbian
[17-Oct-2007 16:53:26] <Djavo> you instal on linux or on VM
[17-Oct-2007 16:53:44] <stevesz> Linux
[17-Oct-2007 16:54:31] <stevesz> I'm off to lunch now...
[17-Oct-2007 16:55:38] <Djavo> ok bay and tnks
[17-Oct-2007 17:10:34] <m1r> hej djavle
[17-Oct-2007 17:11:39] <Djavo> hej
[17-Oct-2007 17:12:20] <m1r> pvt chat
[17-Oct-2007 17:12:59] <Djavo> ok
[17-Oct-2007 17:21:42] <Bulwinkle> !java
[17-Oct-2007 17:29:16] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[17-Oct-2007 18:00:32] _fulgas is now known as fulgas
[17-Oct-2007 19:10:16] * Bulwinkle YAWNS!
[17-Oct-2007 19:11:43] <Bulwinkle> is everyone running 2.1 sucessfully now?
[17-Oct-2007 19:25:44] <jaredo> Anyone else have issues with performance graphs for windows servers using the windows snmp client?
[17-Oct-2007 19:38:34] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: nope... are you using snmpinformant?
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:31] <Bulwinkle> anyone debug this error for me? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/220691
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:46] <jaredo> i was just read something about snmp informant
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:48] <jaredo> not familiar with it
[17-Oct-2007 19:39:58] <jaredo> what is it / usage?
[17-Oct-2007 19:42:06] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: zenoss needs it installed to pull SNMP information from Windows Servers
[17-Oct-2007 19:42:40] <jaredo> is it a full replacement for the windows snmp service or an addon/mib?
[17-Oct-2007 19:42:55] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: the latter... quite harmless
[17-Oct-2007 19:43:09] <jaredo> found the dl
[17-Oct-2007 19:43:11] <jaredo> thanks
[17-Oct-2007 19:43:39] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: no problem...
[17-Oct-2007 19:49:39] <jaredo> yep that was it
[17-Oct-2007 19:55:49] <Bulwinkle> jaredo: as long as you don't mind loading snmpinformant on all of your servers it will work great
[17-Oct-2007 20:29:25] <monrad> does anyone have zeopack working?
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[17-Oct-2007 23:48:14] <eurowerke> Bulwinkle: is zenwin supposed to replace snmp-informant?
[17-Oct-2007 23:49:10] <eurowerke> some of the info seems to make it seem like there's multiple ways to do certain things in zenoss
[17-Oct-2007 23:49:15] <eurowerke> that's what I get frustrated with
[17-Oct-2007 23:49:15] <eurowerke> heh
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[18-Oct-2007 08:55:12] <incorrect> i've just upgraded to version 2.1, in the locations iframe on the dashboard i seem to have a big error
[18-Oct-2007 09:51:32] <incorrect> ok so you can't upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> install.txt help, I'm installing 2.1.0 and keep getting the following error... cp externallibs/setuptools*.egg build/simplejson-1.4
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> installing simplejson
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[18-Oct-2007 11:44:41] <FEON> mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[18-Oct-2007 11:45:19] <FEON> mysql is assessable just fine via mysql -u zenoss -p goodpassword
[18-Oct-2007 12:40:39] <incorrect> roar
[18-Oct-2007 13:13:25] <virge> hi
[18-Oct-2007 13:14:29] <virge> is there a way to use a munin-node as a source of information for zenoss?
[18-Oct-2007 13:33:03] <incorrect> is anyone else finding bugs in 2.1?
[18-Oct-2007 13:36:01] <jaredo> FEON is that a fresh mysql install or do you have other databases on there as well
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[18-Oct-2007 14:20:05] <FEON> jaredo: mysql pre-exit with other databases
[18-Oct-2007 14:24:20] <FEON> jaredo: you still around
[18-Oct-2007 14:32:30] <jaredo> you could set the database root password blank for 30seconds while doing the install
[18-Oct-2007 14:33:21] <progma> FEON: what's your ip
[18-Oct-2007 14:34:04] <jaredo> ive never installed zenoss from source so not sure what steps it takes for the user account or default mysql creds
[18-Oct-2007 14:34:33] <jaredo> root@localhost that is
[18-Oct-2007 14:36:25] <FEON> ok, the problem is from source install.... trying now to extract out what this error is but not having much luck.....
[18-Oct-2007 15:01:43] <FEON> is there a fix for the install so it uses the proper python release (aka 2.5 and not 2.4)?
[18-Oct-2007 15:20:20] <stevesz> I thought it did not support 2.5
[18-Oct-2007 15:20:49] <FEON> stevesz, i just edited the install files so far so good
[18-Oct-2007 15:22:47] <stevesz> Hmm, the notes I read specifically said not to use 2.4 or above, but it was for V2.0.6
[18-Oct-2007 15:23:47] <fiXXXerMe1> I'm about to reinstall one of my servers (ubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.10). Is it hard/easy to copy/move over a zenoss install?
[18-Oct-2007 15:24:24] <FEON> stevesz, you maybe right, the install just failed.....
[18-Oct-2007 15:25:55] <stevesz> fiXXerMe1, It's impossible. If you do the gnome will erase your harddisk.
[18-Oct-2007 15:33:40] <fiXXXerMe1> stevesz: Well can I copy the data to an external location, reinstall, and the copy zenoss back?
[18-Oct-2007 15:33:57] <kgoedte1> i would assume you can
[18-Oct-2007 15:34:00] <stevesz> The gnome will get ya
[18-Oct-2007 15:34:11] <kgoedte1> copy events db and $ZENHOME
[18-Oct-2007 15:34:20] <stevesz> Of course I'm just messing around
[18-Oct-2007 15:36:47] <incorrect> zenoss 2.1 is very slow at displaying the dashboard
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[18-Oct-2007 18:36:00] <jfnormand> Hi, someone knows if the version 2.1 support snmpdv3 finally ?
[18-Oct-2007 20:52:10] <darkhorse> after upgrading from 2.0.6 to 2.1.0, zenperfsnmp, zencommand, and zenprocess fail to start with the following error: TypeError: iteration over non-sequence
[18-Oct-2007 20:58:26] <darkhorse> it looks like others are getting the same error (on the forum) but no solution
[18-Oct-2007 21:23:58] <kgoedte1> probably corrupt events db :]
[18-Oct-2007 21:24:48] <kgoedte1> otherwise probably need to re-run the migration manually
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[18-Oct-2007 22:02:46] <darkhorse> hmm, i have re-run migration (zenmigrate)
[18-Oct-2007 22:02:51] <darkhorse> that didnt fix it
[18-Oct-2007 23:20:58] <eurowerke> anyone know why, when I logn to zenoss, if I have opened the page by hostname, login fails, but when it's by ip, login works?
[18-Oct-2007 23:21:34] <eurowerke> e.g. http://zenoss:8080/ vs. http://10.10.1.10:8080
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[19-Oct-2007 02:36:22] <stevesz> <eurowerke>: Sounds like a misconfigured name resolution
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[19-Oct-2007 14:49:01] <hspcd> Howdy all
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[19-Oct-2007 17:59:27] <jaredo> under the OS tab on a device
[19-Oct-2007 17:59:42] <jaredo> interfaces have a red/green light under O and A
[19-Oct-2007 17:59:48] <jaredo> what does the O and A stand for?
[19-Oct-2007 18:09:54] <qubix> jaredo: O == online and A == active
[19-Oct-2007 18:16:42] <jaredo> thats what i thought
[19-Oct-2007 18:16:52] <jaredo> but then how can some interfaces be Red/O - Green/A
[19-Oct-2007 18:16:59] <jaredo> not online but active?
[19-Oct-2007 18:18:06] <jaredo> pretty much all windows monitored interfaces show up like that
[19-Oct-2007 18:18:21] <jaredo> even though they are functioning normal
[19-Oct-2007 18:19:21] <jaredo> and the cisco interfaces i see like that are down/down
[19-Oct-2007 18:20:01] <jaredo> so is A for active in zenoss? or the interface is actually active
[19-Oct-2007 18:59:40] <eurowerke> s
[19-Oct-2007 19:04:31] <eurowerke> anyone having trouble with the device list on 2.1?
[19-Oct-2007 19:04:36] <eurowerke> sometimes it doesn't load up
[19-Oct-2007 19:04:46] <eurowerke> just sits with the "Loading" grey box in the middle of the screen
[19-Oct-2007 19:11:13] <jaredo> whats the processor usage when its happening?
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:01] <eurowerke> hmm
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:16] <eurowerke> 9%
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:55] <eurowerke> wacky
[19-Oct-2007 19:14:59] <eurowerke> i'm not liking 2.1 very much
[19-Oct-2007 19:15:10] <eurowerke> oddities like this that suddenly started happening
[19-Oct-2007 19:15:56] <eurowerke> it also freaked out the alerting for some reason too, started getting a bunch of emails about switches going to ridiculous levels of cpu usage (e.g. 83,000%)
[19-Oct-2007 19:15:58] <eurowerke> haha
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:09] <progma> wups
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:15] <progma> minor detail
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:17] <eurowerke> haha
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:34] <eurowerke> obviously impossible
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:34] <jaredo> so far 2.1 has been good for me
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:37] <eurowerke> blech
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:39] <jaredo> but its killing cpu usage
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:43] <jaredo> and loading extremely slow
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:51] <eurowerke> yea
[19-Oct-2007 19:16:53] <eurowerke> mine has been steady
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:16] <jaredo> then again some of the routers ive been adding have 300 interfaces
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:24] <eurowerke> what's the third value using `top` for cpu usage?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:27] <eurowerke> 5 min avg?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:39] <eurowerke> 15min?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:40] <jaredo> nice?
[19-Oct-2007 19:17:40] <eurowerke> i forget
[19-Oct-2007 19:18:45] <progma> 15
[19-Oct-2007 19:18:54] <progma> you mean load avg right
[19-Oct-2007 19:18:56] <progma> 1 5 15
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:12] <progma> that's not really cpu usage tho
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:20] <progma> google around for the endless debate about load average
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:27] <adytum-bot> http://www.ousa.ca/uploaded_files/pdf_files/Government%20Submissions/Sumbission%20to%20the%20Tution%20Roundtable%20-%20September%202005
[19-Oct-2007 19:19:45] <progma> generally if you use vmstat i.e. "vmstat 5" and see a nonzero number frequently in the "b" column you have issues
[19-Oct-2007 19:20:20] <progma> i've seen load averages of >200 and the server runs fine, although things like sendmail will stop running after like 30 or 40
[19-Oct-2007 19:20:52] <progma> technically it's how many jobs are waiting in the run queue; i got the >200 number from that linux 2.4 kernel bug with df and hung nfs mounts
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:08] <progma> where you can't kill the df process if it hangs on listing a stale nfs mount
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:37] <progma> so, load avg not always accurate picture of cpu load
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:44] <progma> better to watch percentages via top
[19-Oct-2007 19:21:53] <progma> sorry, too much caffeine lol
[19-Oct-2007 19:29:35] <eurowerke> hahah
[19-Oct-2007 19:30:06] <eurowerke> gak
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:20] <eurowerke> what sort of hardware you running it on jaredo?
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:33] <eurowerke> i'm running mine on a vm with 512 megs of ram heh
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:42] <eurowerke> runs great
[19-Oct-2007 19:32:54] <eurowerke> i mean, a linux vm, not the vm appliance
[19-Oct-2007 19:33:07] <eurowerke> my dashboard loads right up
[19-Oct-2007 19:49:38] <davetoo> This version seems quite a bit more prone to database conflict errors
[19-Oct-2007 20:58:42] <progma> this isn't related to zenoss directly, but does anyone have poweredges with windows 2003 running on them
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[19-Oct-2007 22:31:53] <eurowerke> man
[19-Oct-2007 22:31:57] <eurowerke> device list b0rked again
[19-Oct-2007 22:31:58] <eurowerke> blaah
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[20-Oct-2007 00:45:26] <eurowerke> gak
[20-Oct-2007 00:45:33] <eurowerke> device list still won't load
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[20-Oct-2007 08:48:10] <netdata> hi
[20-Oct-2007 08:48:12] <netdata> someone?
[20-Oct-2007 16:30:44] <m11> hello
[20-Oct-2007 19:51:12] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
[20-Oct-2007 20:07:25] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
[20-Oct-2007 22:39:08] <egbill3eagle> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/wlan_adapter/350_cb20a/user/win_ce/2.5/configuration/guide/3CE_appE.html
[20-Oct-2007 22:39:24] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
[20-Oct-2007 22:51:48] <egbill3eagle> Hello all, I am just starting to look at implementing zenoss at my company however we are active directory based. I am wondering if zenoss is able to inventory software licenses on windows machines?
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[21-Oct-2007 05:16:04] <vyrulian> having some issues with the Google Maps API from a new install - The google Maps API key used on this web site was registered...
[21-Oct-2007 05:16:19] <vyrulian> thoughts/
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[22-Oct-2007 09:59:00] <passie_> morning
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:16] <passie_> i'm getting the following error when trying to upgrade
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:23] <passie_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:23] <passie_> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:28] <passie_> any body has an idea ?
[22-Oct-2007 09:59:38] <passie_> there is no zenbuild.log
[22-Oct-2007 14:31:42] <curunir> hi all.. i'm current evaluating zenoss and i need some help regarding nagios plugins
[22-Oct-2007 14:31:53] <curunir> i need to reuse a large number of nagios plugins
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:00] <curunir> but i'm not being able to configure them properly
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:09] <curunir> i read the docs and i think i understand the concepts
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:20] <curunir> but i cannot configure any nagios plugin to appear on the os tab
[22-Oct-2007 14:32:27] <curunir> i can only configure perfomance graphs..
[22-Oct-2007 14:33:16] <curunir> anyone knows the general guidline to do this?
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[22-Oct-2007 17:01:16] <jsm> i'd like to get my alerts working better... right now i get lots of emails about errors, 90% of which resolve themselves upon the next check that zenoss performs.. how do i setup an alert so that a specific event happens "X" amount of times before the alert is generated?
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[22-Oct-2007 18:01:49] <rdb_> New appliance install, I get "Cannot open the site http://zenoss.xxx.xxx:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/localhost. Operation aborted" when I try to look at a device. Can someone point me in the right direction? Checked logs in the home/zenoss/log folder but no clues there.
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[22-Oct-2007 18:14:43] <rdb_> hrm works on firefox
[22-Oct-2007 18:29:09] <nsipes> Does anyone know of an easy way to load a large number of mibs at once?
[22-Oct-2007 19:05:47] <eurowerke> jsm: i don't know if you can do it so that an event happens X number of times, but you can only delay the alert N number of seconds before an alert it sent
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[22-Oct-2007 19:14:52] <progma> mutil8_:
[22-Oct-2007 19:14:52] <progma> mutil8_:
[22-Oct-2007 19:35:29] <zaf> is it possible to make it to that certain users can only see certain devices/groups?
[22-Oct-2007 19:35:58] <progma> zaf: yes
[22-Oct-2007 19:36:56] <zaf> how?
[22-Oct-2007 19:38:25] <progma> i think in settings then users? i'm not near a zenoss interface but it's definitely possible
[22-Oct-2007 19:39:19] <zaf> hmm
[22-Oct-2007 19:39:54] <zaf> there's an "Admnistered Objects" tab, that that doesn't seem to hide non-adminstered devices from them
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[23-Oct-2007 11:47:23] <passie_> anybody here who could help me with some network card graphs ?
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[23-Oct-2007 16:38:28] <MoreDakka> Anyone alive in here today?
[23-Oct-2007 16:38:50] <davetoo> Not enough coffee yet
[23-Oct-2007 16:39:00] <MoreDakka> So only partly alive ;-)
[23-Oct-2007 16:39:37] <MoreDakka> Here is my system setup FC5, zenoss v1.1.1
[23-Oct-2007 16:40:42] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to get a duplicate system going for testing. Very different hardware but still want to have v1.1.1 What is the best way to do that?
[23-Oct-2007 16:41:25] <MoreDakka> Should I install v1.1.1 on the testbox then tar the zenoss dir on the production box and move it to the test box then overwrite the zenoss dir?
[23-Oct-2007 16:42:03] <davetoo> No
[23-Oct-2007 16:42:23] <davetoo> only ${ZENHOME}/var/Data.*
[23-Oct-2007 16:43:02] <davetoo> You can try the RRD files in ${ZENHOME}/perf/Devices, but the binary RRD format may not be the same
[23-Oct-2007 16:43:20] <davetoo> if that's the case and you want to keep the history you may have to do an rrdtools dump and restore
[23-Oct-2007 16:43:45] <MoreDakka> Not too worried about the history, just the devices and settings for those devices.
[23-Oct-2007 16:44:12] <davetoo> Then all you need is the Zope data from Data.fs and friends. Not the .zec cache files.
[23-Oct-2007 16:45:04] <MoreDakka> Sweet. I'll give that a try. Just need to get Zenoss installed on FC5 now :-/ It's a pain on this OS. CentOS5 and zenoss 2.x is really really easy to install.
[23-Oct-2007 16:45:09] <davetoo> You'll probably then have to run zendisc --routers right afterwards.
[23-Oct-2007 16:47:21] <MoreDakka> thnx man. I'll see if I can get this done :-D
[23-Oct-2007 16:47:37] <MoreDakka> Have you ever heard of or ran untangle and zenoss before (not on the same box)
[23-Oct-2007 16:54:52] <davetoo> Never heard of untangle
[23-Oct-2007 16:56:15] <MoreDakka> It's actually very cool, it would be even cooler if I could get it to not drop all the icmp and other zenoss/cacti traffic that goes through it (Spam, Spyware, Firewall, Router...etc..etc...Free ;-) ) untangle.com
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[23-Oct-2007 18:43:00] <rdb_> I'm new to this, coming from cacti/nagios. I have windows servers added, but no performance graphing is being done. It worked for about 15 minutes when I first manually added a server, but that's been 2 days with no graphing. Also no discovered devices are graphing. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[23-Oct-2007 18:54:25] <davetoo> check that zenperfsnmp is still running
[23-Oct-2007 18:54:34] <davetoo> and if it is, try restarting it. Which version are you running?
[23-Oct-2007 18:54:56] <davetoo> I was having problems with zenperfsnmp hanging in the middle of snmp traffic in zenoss 2.0.90
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:17] <rdb_> 2.1.0
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:22] <rdb_> it is, I'll restart it
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:33] <rdb_> zenhub keeps dying, is that normal?
[23-Oct-2007 18:55:52] <davetoo> I haven't yet run my full load of devices in 2.1.0
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:08] <davetoo> Not normal.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:21] <rdb_> ok, nothing in its logs either so I wasn't sure.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:26] <davetoo> And that would cause the monitoring to stop.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:26] <rdb_> I'll start there.
[23-Oct-2007 18:56:37] <davetoo> zenperfsnmp talks to the Zope database via zenhub, I think.
[23-Oct-2007 18:57:18] <rdb_> tail -f * is pretty useful, never knew that would work until I needed it with zenoss
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[23-Oct-2007 21:19:39] <jaredo> I removed the default 75% utilization threshold for the ethernetCsmacd template, now any time i try to view an interface I get a zenoss errro
[23-Oct-2007 21:19:42] <jaredo> *error
[23-Oct-2007 21:20:21] <jaredo> anyone know how templates are stored so i can try to restore the default template?
[23-Oct-2007 21:27:37] <jaredo> or can anyone tell me the values for the default %75 utilization threshold?
[23-Oct-2007 21:36:32] <MoreDakka_> has anyone been able to successfully migrate data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1?
[23-Oct-2007 21:55:49] <rdb_> My Zenhub keeps dying, right after I start it. Nothing in the error logs, and it doesn't complain when I start it from command line. Can someone point me in the right direction to troubleshoot?
[23-Oct-2007 22:02:14] <MoreDakka_> has anyone been able to successfully migrate data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1?
[23-Oct-2007 22:30:53] <tristanbob> easiest way to perform bulk discovery of network devices?
[23-Oct-2007 22:32:27] <rdb_> Device Discovery
[23-Oct-2007 22:33:50] <tristanbob> rdb_: where is that? on web gui? running 2.1 here
[23-Oct-2007 22:34:05] <rdb_> tristanbob; yes, under networks
[23-Oct-2007 22:34:16] <rdb_> tristanbob; check out the quick start guide.
[23-Oct-2007 22:34:32] <tristanbob> rdb_: will do - thanks
[23-Oct-2007 22:35:01] <rdb_> what process handles the web interface? nothing has port 8080 open since a reboot.
[23-Oct-2007 22:44:30] <rdb_> what web server does zenoss use?
[23-Oct-2007 22:44:36] <tristanbob> zope?
[23-Oct-2007 22:44:47] <rdb_> ok so zope should have 8080 open?
[23-Oct-2007 22:52:59] <progma> yup
[23-Oct-2007 22:53:19] <rdb_> thanks yeah it is't running.
[23-Oct-2007 22:56:16] <rdb_> the answer is always delete a zec file...
[23-Oct-2007 22:59:26] <rdb_> yay now it's zenperfsnmp that keeps dying
[23-Oct-2007 22:59:51] <rdb_> this error-less dying thing sucks.
[23-Oct-2007 23:11:38] <progma> rdb_: what are the permissions on your /tmp directory
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[24-Oct-2007 00:51:20] <freaek> good morning, can anyone tell me where the zenpack command would be located on the vmware image?
[24-Oct-2007 00:51:23] <freaek> tis not in the path
[24-Oct-2007 02:35:25] <MoreDakka_> I'm going to assume that no one is on right now?
[24-Oct-2007 02:53:45] <progma> yup
[24-Oct-2007 02:59:05] <MoreDakka_> ha
[24-Oct-2007 03:07:48] <waynemedlin> any one try the Example: Creating new menu items link on the wiki and get it to work
[24-Oct-2007 04:21:58] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - rst2a - 17 Oct, 03:03PM
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[24-Oct-2007 05:39:41] Tinoza644 is now known as Tinozaure
[24-Oct-2007 07:58:03] <Loady> hi. im using zenoss 2.1. its currenty installed on a dual xeon system. for some reason it seems to use a lot of my resources on that server. The interface also feels sluggishly slow. Can this be due to a misconfiguration from my side?
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[24-Oct-2007 12:13:38] <rdb_> progma; drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Oct 24 10:58 tmp
[24-Oct-2007 12:13:43] <rdb_> (this is an appliance)
[24-Oct-2007 12:35:56] <rdb_> zenperfsnmp starts, checks a few things, runs for about 1 second, starts to gather some stats, then inexplicably disappears
[24-Oct-2007 12:36:00] <rdb_> /dies
[24-Oct-2007 12:37:20] <Robbadub> Gentlemen
[24-Oct-2007 12:37:26] <Robbadub> A moment of your time please
[24-Oct-2007 12:38:57] <Robbadub> Can anyone give me the exact string that is in the DEFAULT SORT field on the tab FIELDS in the zenoss EVENTMANAGER section under management in the main navigator bar.
[24-Oct-2007 12:39:43] <rdb_> ah here's an error, zenperfsnmp run -v10 finally told me "Segmentation fault"
[24-Oct-2007 12:39:47] <rdb_> that's better than nothing I guess.
[24-Oct-2007 12:39:50] <Robbadub> This is beacuse the MySQL query is malformed when entered wrong. This is why my event listings DON'T WORK
[24-Oct-2007 12:40:14] <Robbadub> Please
[24-Oct-2007 12:41:30] <rdb_> Robbadub; there must be a way to monitor/log the mysql queries. It's done using Profiler on MSSQL.
[24-Oct-2007 12:41:55] <Robbadub> I Understand. This is the way we have conlcuded this is an error
[24-Oct-2007 12:42:24] <Robbadub> What has happened is that we altered the field content and now these queries are incorrect
[24-Oct-2007 12:42:50] <Robbadub> We need to know the default field contents so we don't have to re-install zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 12:43:11] <rdb_> Robbadub; download and boot up a vmware system
[24-Oct-2007 12:43:55] <Robbadub> The incorrect queries crash and zenos sez: cannot communicate with the server
[24-Oct-2007 12:44:27] <Robbadub> Oh please . All I ask is someone to look in to that field in the zenoss interface. It is 3 clicks!
[24-Oct-2007 12:45:37] <Robbadub> click eventmanager - fields it is the top field named default sort. I need to know the default contents of that fiels (case sensitive)
[24-Oct-2007 12:54:05] <Robbadub> Can anyone give me the exact string that is in the DEFAULT SORT field on the tab FIELDS in the zenoss EVENTMANAGER section under management in the main navigator bar.
[24-Oct-2007 12:56:54] <rdb_> severity desc, lastTime desc
[24-Oct-2007 13:00:32] <Verilium> Hmm.. Pretty basic question, I'm having a little trouble understanding zenoss conceptually, how would I go about, for example, adding an alert or such, to monitor if port 80 on one of devices is up or not?
[24-Oct-2007 13:28:21] <jaredo> Anyone know where template data is stored?
[24-Oct-2007 13:28:32] <jaredo> Is it stored in the sql database? Or a data file
[24-Oct-2007 13:28:44] <jaredo> The templates themselves
[24-Oct-2007 13:37:39] <darkhorse> i thought they were stored in the zope database
[24-Oct-2007 13:39:40] <jaredo> could you by change give me the info for the default 75% threshold on the ethernetCsmacd template?
[24-Oct-2007 13:40:00] <jaredo> like the threshold name and max value
[24-Oct-2007 13:40:13] <jaredo> *by chance
[24-Oct-2007 13:41:44] <Robbadub> Thank you rdb
[24-Oct-2007 13:44:49] <darkhorse> one sec
[24-Oct-2007 13:45:29] <jaredo> Im trying to dupliate it exactly as it was to see if resolves my error
[24-Oct-2007 13:45:42] <jaredo> I found that removing it makes it so i can view any interface anymore ><
[24-Oct-2007 13:45:48] <darkhorse> hmm, well you can create a local copy
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:14] <jaredo> thats how it got deleted, i thought i was editing a local copy when it turns out i wasnt
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:25] <darkhorse> oh, so you deleted it all...
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:33] <jaredo> no just the threshold
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:38] <jaredo> for the 75% utilization
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:44] <darkhorse> oh ok
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:51] <darkhorse> Utilization 75 perc MinMaxThreshold ifInOctets_ifInOctets, ifOutOctets_ifOutOctets Warning True
[24-Oct-2007 13:46:52] <jaredo> because on the first local copy i remove it on, i was still getting alerts from it
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:13] <jaredo> whats the ID?
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:24] <jaredo> or name listed under thresholds
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:28] <darkhorse> Utilization 75 perc
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:36] <darkhorse> that doesnt really matter
[24-Oct-2007 13:47:56] <darkhorse> you must select the two octet items from the list
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:09] <darkhorse> event class is /Perf/Interface
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:11] <jaredo> maxval?
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:18] <darkhorse> here.speed / 8 * .75
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:45] <darkhorse> kk, gotta run
[24-Oct-2007 13:48:46] <darkhorse> meeting
[24-Oct-2007 13:49:03] <jaredo> lets see if that works
[24-Oct-2007 13:49:04] <jaredo> thanks
[24-Oct-2007 13:49:45] <jaredo> nope :/
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[24-Oct-2007 14:08:05] <MoreDakka_> has anyone been able to successfully migrate data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1?
[24-Oct-2007 14:13:07] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: just bite the bullet and upgrade already
[24-Oct-2007 14:13:42] <MoreDakka_> Ha...that's what I'm trying to do ;-) have a somewhat shiny dell 2550 that will do the jb nicely for this...but I need the data from 1.1.1 :-/
[24-Oct-2007 14:17:14] <MoreDakka_> 2.1 is nice, lots of really nice features and a good layout compaired to 1.1.1. I just need to adjust the css files to make the txt a little smaller as it takes up a lot of monitor real estate
[24-Oct-2007 15:28:17] <pinger> hello
[24-Oct-2007 15:28:36] <pinger> got a standard, generic error message that I'm sure will be easy to answer
[24-Oct-2007 15:28:40] <pinger> is anybody available?
[24-Oct-2007 15:31:15] <Robbadub> what can I do 4 yiu
[24-Oct-2007 15:31:51] <Robbadub> Well gentlemen. Some excellent features in 2.1 but boy what a mess getting it to work
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:04] * Robbadub is not amused
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:18] <MoreDakka_> heh, you should try to migrate date vrom v1.1.1 -> 2.1
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:28] <MoreDakka_> Now that's a mess.
[24-Oct-2007 15:32:57] <Robbadub> I'm considering re-install
[24-Oct-2007 15:33:41] <Robbadub> Buttah... love to chat but gotta run ... bye
[24-Oct-2007 15:34:07] <rdb_> I have a zenperfsnmp that keeps dying (segfault) when I have Cisco 3560 switches added. Delete the switches, zenperfsnmp runs fine...
[24-Oct-2007 15:40:23] <rdb_> And good ol' Tripp Lite UPS's all report their names as "Tripp Lite" so Zenoss thinks they're all the same device...
[24-Oct-2007 15:40:24] <PerlStalker> Is it possible to attach a KML file to a device to show on the Google map?
[24-Oct-2007 15:44:53] <MoreDakka_> rdb_: Go into your device in Zenoss click on the drop down menu -> Manage -> Rename Device
[24-Oct-2007 15:46:45] <rdb_> MoreDakka_; yeah I am. But it keeps device discovery from working and I have 60 of these.
Oh well, shouldn't buy tripplite anymore...[24-Oct-2007 15:47:13] <MoreDakka_> Can you change the hostname on the device itself?
[24-Oct-2007 15:47:29] <rdb_> yeah, but apparently that isn't what gets reported to Zenoss via SNMP
[24-Oct-2007 15:47:50] <MoreDakka_> odd.
[24-Oct-2007 15:48:07] <MoreDakka_> I'm just getting into 2.1 from 1.1.1 so I'm a little behind the times.
[24-Oct-2007 15:48:23] <rdb_> I'm not surprised there have been a lot of bugs in TrippLite's UPS management card code/firmware since we started using them.
[24-Oct-2007 16:07:05] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[24-Oct-2007 16:46:18] <jsm> is there a documented procedure for moving a zenoss site from one server to another? i'd like to preserve all the data i've collected
[24-Oct-2007 16:51:57] <kgoedte1> all you need is the events db and $ZENHOME
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[24-Oct-2007 17:36:14] <bkingx> Greetings! need help installing Ver 2.1 on Ubuntu Gutsy Server.
[24-Oct-2007 17:45:24] <bkingx> Anyone around today?
[24-Oct-2007 17:46:24] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[24-Oct-2007 17:46:33] <MoreDakka_> Sorta...I would help you with your question but I've never used Ubuntu
[24-Oct-2007 17:47:55] <bkingx> No worries.
[24-Oct-2007 17:48:24] <bkingx> I am wondering if I installed the server incorrectly to begin with
[24-Oct-2007 17:48:45] <bkingx> I installed and configured the main user as zenoss.
[24-Oct-2007 17:49:34] <bkingx> Do you think this might be causing problems especially in the steps for creating the zenoss user?
[24-Oct-2007 17:49:50] <MoreDakka_> rather then admin?
[24-Oct-2007 17:51:31] <bkingx> MoreDakka_: yes
[24-Oct-2007 17:51:51] <bkingx> When installing Ubuntu yo ucan designate the default user (not root).
[24-Oct-2007 17:52:11] <bkingx> I am thinking maybe I should have chosen something other than zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 17:52:33] <MoreDakka_> Ah, right I see what you're saying now, so your root user is zenoss...right?
[24-Oct-2007 17:55:20] <bkingx> Well, sort of. Root is root, but is not typically used in Ubuntu. You usually run commands with root access by using sudo.
[24-Oct-2007 18:12:34] <progma> bkingx: so you setup your default non-user account as zenoss instead, of say, bkingx ?
[24-Oct-2007 18:12:44] <progma> bkingx: you should change that if that gave user zenoss sudo privileges
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:10] <progma> bkingx: i haven't done an ubuntu install from scratch as i've been progressively upgrading since dapper drake, but redhat does a similar thing on install where it asks you to enter a non-root user, is that what you mean
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:27] <bkingx> progma: exactly
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:43] <bkingx> We need to add that little hint to the Install docs.
[24-Oct-2007 18:13:54] <bkingx> I am fixing that now.
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[24-Oct-2007 18:14:14] <progma> bkingx: what does /etc/sudoers say
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:28] <bkingx> Root and Admin group
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:53] <progma> ah ok, definite change
[24-Oct-2007 18:14:55] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[24-Oct-2007 18:15:44] <progma> or some caveat that says if you do that and don't want to rollback your install, edit sudoers accordingly
[24-Oct-2007 18:17:29] <bkingx> progma: yup! I am following the Fiesty install steps now and seeing what might need to be updated for Gutsy.
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:14] <bkingx> Hmm...no luck
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:36] <bkingx> mkdir: cannot create directory `build': Permission denied
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:37] <bkingx> make: *** [testZenHome] Error 1
[24-Oct-2007 18:22:37] <bkingx> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[24-Oct-2007 18:27:33] <bkingx> Well, fixed it.
[24-Oct-2007 18:28:25] <bkingx> Since I had untarred the package using the original zenoss, I had to remove that and extract again using the "new" zenoss user.
[24-Oct-2007 18:53:37] <MoreDakka_> anyone know how to totally remove Zenoss from a system?
[24-Oct-2007 18:58:09] <progma> MoreDakka_: did you do an rpm install? and why would you want to do that?
[24-Oct-2007 18:58:44] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I did an rpm install and I want to do it so I can try a fresh install of zenoss to import from 1.1.1
[24-Oct-2007 18:58:47] <MoreDakka_> again.
[24-Oct-2007 18:59:30] <progma> gotcha, what version is installed? you should just be able to uninstall the rpm
[24-Oct-2007 18:59:58] <progma> i'm not sure about 1.x though, if the rpm uninstall will delete the zenoss user, remove the events db and delete everything /opt though
[24-Oct-2007 19:01:18] <MoreDakka_> I'm not removing 1.1.1 but want to remove 2.1
[24-Oct-2007 19:01:32] <progma> you have both installed on the same system?
[24-Oct-2007 19:01:35] <progma> oh oh
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:02] <progma> "rpm -qa |grep zenoss"
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:08] <MoreDakka_> Nope, two different systems. v1.1.1 is our production server and I'm doing an upgrade but on a different server.
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:13] <progma> ok good
[24-Oct-2007 19:02:39] <progma> "rpm -e `rpm -qa |grep zenoss`" without the double quotes
[24-Oct-2007 19:03:16] <progma> better to manually do it as you may have other packages related to zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 19:03:35] <MoreDakka_> "error: can't create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/__db.000"
[24-Oct-2007 19:04:15] <progma> rpm -qa |grep zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 19:04:18] <progma> get the name of the rpm
[24-Oct-2007 19:04:22] <progma> rpm -e that name
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:03] <MoreDakka_> same error
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:31] <progma> ps auxw |grep rpm
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:40] <progma> are you running as root or a privileged user?
[24-Oct-2007 19:05:47] <MoreDakka_> Haha...oops
[24-Oct-2007 19:06:09] <progma>
[24-Oct-2007 19:09:08] <progma> then login to mysql and make sure there's no events db
[24-Oct-2007 19:10:28] <MoreDakka_> Probably delete $ZENHOME as well?
[24-Oct-2007 19:10:39] <progma> yes, that's next
[24-Oct-2007 19:10:52] <progma> although the rpm uninstall should do that, it's best to be sure
[24-Oct-2007 19:11:27] <MoreDakka_> what's the mysql command to drop a database? drop databse?
[24-Oct-2007 19:12:21] <progma> it's still there?
[24-Oct-2007 19:12:34] <MoreDakka_> Yeah the events dbase is still there.
[24-Oct-2007 19:15:30] <progma> yes, "DROP DATABASE events ; "
[24-Oct-2007 19:17:00] <MoreDakka_> Alright, so dropped that dbase, removed the home dir of zenoss and removed /opt/zenoss from the system. That should be clean now right>?
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[24-Oct-2007 19:19:38] <progma> MoreDakka_: yup
[24-Oct-2007 19:20:26] <progma> did you have zenoss-plugins installed
[24-Oct-2007 19:23:21] <MoreDakka_> nope
[24-Oct-2007 19:24:07] <progma> so you're going to install 1.1.1 and test the upgrade, eh
[24-Oct-2007 19:26:47] <MoreDakka_> Nope. This is going to be the new server and I'm going to try to get the data from our production server onto the "new" server.
[24-Oct-2007 19:26:59] <MoreDakka_> yay for well priced dell 2550
[24-Oct-2007 19:27:06] <MoreDakka_> ($200) :-D
[24-Oct-2007 19:37:10] <progma> not bad
[24-Oct-2007 19:37:56] <progma> one place i do work for, that's what i've got zenoss, cacti and zabbix on, just one pe 2550
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:11] <MoreDakka_> I just like the idea that this thing will have redundent hdds and power supplies.
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:23] <MoreDakka_> Yeah we are going to have zenoss and cacti. What is zabbix?
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:40] <progma> zabbix is another oss monitoring system that i first started with
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:54] <MoreDakka_> have you used nagios?
[24-Oct-2007 19:38:59] <progma> similar to nagios but has built-in graphing
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:01] <progma> oh yes
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:08] <progma> nagios is like, too little too late lol
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:21] <MoreDakka_> Out of all the ones that you've used, which is the best (in your opinion)?
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:29] <progma> zenoss by a mile
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:34] <progma> if just for the autodiscovery feature
[24-Oct-2007 19:39:49] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I'm going to see how well that works.
[24-Oct-2007 19:40:19] <progma> if you've got snmp configured properly on all the devices you want to monitor, it works like a champ
[24-Oct-2007 19:40:39] <progma> i think some people run the discovery not keeping that in mind and get upset when it doesn't get everything they want
[24-Oct-2007 19:46:54] <MoreDakka_> bah, didn't work....ugly errors....
[24-Oct-2007 19:47:10] <MoreDakka_> Hope cluther takes another look at my post.
[24-Oct-2007 19:56:19] <progma> ?
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:05] <MoreDakka_> Take a look at the uglyness. (cluther was helping me earlier) http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12234#12234
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:06] <progma> you're doing a fresh install ?
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:08] <progma> ok
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - migrating data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1...doesn't like me. (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Oct-2007 19:57:34] <MoreDakka_> Yeah fresh install, nothing else on this sytem other then CentOS 5 and zenoss
[24-Oct-2007 19:59:25] <progma> yah that's way over my head :|
[24-Oct-2007 19:59:38] <MoreDakka_> Yeah...it's gross.
[24-Oct-2007 20:01:16] <MoreDakka_> I just hope I can get that to work or I'll have to re-enter 150+ devices manually
[24-Oct-2007 20:10:01] <bkingx> OK, so who here is working for Zenoss?
[24-Oct-2007 20:10:26] <bkingx> I have an updated install doc for Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon)
[24-Oct-2007 20:37:41] <eurowerke> ahhh!
[24-Oct-2007 20:40:43] <bkingx> eurowerke: ?
[24-Oct-2007 21:01:48] <tristanbob> why doesn't zenoss have an installable ISO?
[24-Oct-2007 21:01:59] <tristanbob> I thought that was easy with rpath
[24-Oct-2007 21:02:29] <MoreDakka_> It's a pretty easy install without the ISO...I'm a linux newb and I was able to do it with CentOS 5 no problem.
[24-Oct-2007 21:03:32] <tristanbob> yes, because you had an RPM
[24-Oct-2007 21:03:38] <tristanbob> I want to install on Ubuntu
[24-Oct-2007 21:05:05] <MoreDakka_> Ha...wow...there are alot of steps to install on Ubuntu...
[24-Oct-2007 21:13:00] <tristanbob> I saw that bkingx is working on a doc...
[24-Oct-2007 21:13:11] <tristanbob> I also heard people were working on an ubuntu package
[24-Oct-2007 21:14:40] <progma> i've got it running in feisty fawn right now; it was a bit of a pain but runs fine
[24-Oct-2007 21:15:30] <progma> tristanbob: you know who's working on it? if not i might give a stab at rolling my first deb
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:16] <tristanbob> progma: I saw it in the zenoss forums....
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:19] <tristanbob> let me find the post
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:29] <tristanbob> I think there is even a debian ITP for it...
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:30] <progma> no prob i can find it
[24-Oct-2007 21:18:40] <progma> now that would be a surprise
[24-Oct-2007 21:19:21] <tristanbob> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361253
[24-Oct-2007 21:19:39] <adytum-bot> Title: #361253 - ITP: zenoss -- infrastucture monitoring and managment system - Debian Bug report logs (at bugs.debian.org)
[24-Oct-2007 21:21:04] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[24-Oct-2007 21:22:55] <progma> sweet
[24-Oct-2007 21:23:08] <progma> i'd much rather run zenoss on a debian based system
[24-Oct-2007 21:24:17] <MoreDakka_> So since i'm a linux newb, what's bad about centos?
[24-Oct-2007 21:24:58] <progma> MoreDakka_: you depend on the centos community to rebuild everything from source that redhat offers with their subscription service
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:18] <progma> which is awesome, but in the long term i just don't know about that being viable in an enterprise environment
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:45] <PerlStalker> How is that different from depending on the community to rebuild everything from source for apt?
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:47] <MoreDakka_> But it is much easier to work with for people that are new to it plus it's extremely stable.
[24-Oct-2007 21:25:47] <progma> ubuntu is debian with non-free software, and the debian community is 100% dedicated to oss
[24-Oct-2007 21:26:43] <progma> PerlStalker: good point, i think it's the approach though - debian is debian, while centos tries to be redhat
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:24] <kgoedte1> more like, centos is redhat without the RHN/entitlement BS and pointless tech support
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:36] <kgoedte1> thats the way i see it
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:49] <MoreDakka_> Uh oh...might have started a linux war... :-/
[24-Oct-2007 21:27:57] <kgoedte1> i love debian too
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:04] <kgoedte1> i just think you are offbase on centos
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:10] <PerlStalker> That's OK. I'm in the Gentoo camp
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:25] <PerlStalker> Binaries are for wimps ;-)
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:29] <progma> haha
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:34] <kgoedte1> gentoo is fine if you want to compile everything. more power to yah :]
[24-Oct-2007 21:28:49] <progma> or people who don't have tons of time to watch it all compile
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:02] <kgoedte1> meh compiling doesnt take that long
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:13] <PerlStalker> Depends on how you distribute your ebuilds
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:15] <kgoedte1> i compile all the major services on my servers
[24-Oct-2007 21:29:23] <progma> yah i'm just trolling
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:07] <kgoedte1> im migrating everything to virtual machines that are cloned using standard images... so i dont build much from scratch more than 1 time anymore
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:31] <PerlStalker> Works pretty well that way.
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:41] <progma> i agree
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:44] <progma> no need for kickstart images etc
[24-Oct-2007 21:30:52] <progma> just bare metal copy it
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:10] <progma> or clone the guest images i mean
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:13] <kgoedte1> cloning a box and having another copy running in under 5 minutes is very nice :]
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:39] <progma> what host os and virtualization tech do you use, kgoedte1
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:50] <kgoedte1> centos5 and xen
[24-Oct-2007 21:31:51] <MoreDakka_> That was going to be my question
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:02] <PerlStalker> What do you use to admin xen?
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:10] <progma> nice, i am thinking of moving in that direction
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:15] <tristanbob> I just think that rpath enables simple ISO installers - many other rpath virtual appliances have the installable ISO
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:28] <kgoedte1> i started with virt manager but i am moving to all custom scripts written in bash/perl
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:35] <progma> i have read that xen kicks the pants off of vmware when it's all linux
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:42] <kgoedte1> it is very fast
[24-Oct-2007 21:32:56] <kgoedte1> and i havent seen any stability issues or odd behavior
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:04] <PerlStalker> I like xen but vmware's admin console is really nice.
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:26] <kgoedte1> but it costs money too
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:44] <PerlStalker> The basic server doesn't but that's definitely a concern.
[24-Oct-2007 21:33:57] <kgoedte1> eventually i plan to investigate KVM for virtualization, but xen works for now
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:12] <kgoedte1> i will wait for the kernel to mature more
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:17] <progma> well if you use the basic server and host linux
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:26] <progma> there is the clock tick issue
[24-Oct-2007 21:34:46] <kgoedte1> i have opensolaris 5.11 running under xen as of yesterday also
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:16] <progma> kgoedte1: have you messed with solaris 10's zones at all
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:21] <kgoedte1> in the hope that we can cease purchasing sparc machines and invest completely in x86 hardware
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:41] <progma> yah sparc is dead, the new niagara stuff is hot tho
[24-Oct-2007 21:35:59] <kgoedte1> i played with zone briefly, but we opted to not use them... but it was probably a mistake
[24-Oct-2007 21:36:11] <progma> not enough time in the day!
[24-Oct-2007 21:36:47] <kgoedte1> we modify shared memory but arent using a zone... cron has issues because of it
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:22] <kgoedte1> my biggest problem with solaris are the primitive non-gnu utils
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:23] <progma> what is your x86 hardware on
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:32] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone describe System and Group...what you might set them as? Location is pretty much self explained.
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:34] <progma> dell?
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:38] <kgoedte1> dell yah
[24-Oct-2007 21:37:57] <progma> yah, and having to use unsigned blastware pkgs and such is sketchy
[24-Oct-2007 21:38:21] <progma> nexenta is interesting but haven't messed with it
[24-Oct-2007 21:38:33] <kgoedte1> especially when a lot of our legacy stuff was scripted specifically with the solaris binaries
[24-Oct-2007 21:38:55] <kgoedte1> so if you get something in your path that supercedes the solaris crap... you are in for some excitement
[24-Oct-2007 21:39:31] <kgoedte1> but i must say, i do love dtrace and wish linux had an equivalent
[24-Oct-2007 21:39:44] <kgoedte1> it is by far the best debugging/performance tool
[24-Oct-2007 21:39:57] <progma> yup same with libraries and different compilers
[24-Oct-2007 21:40:05] <progma> yah dtrace rules
[24-Oct-2007 21:40:38] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[24-Oct-2007 21:49:19] <MoreDakka_> Can I add a next hope to a gateway that I can only ping and no snmp? (Internal network -> (vlan1) Cisco871 -> (fa4) Cisco 871 -> Telus Gateway
[24-Oct-2007 21:57:16] <eurowerke> bkingx: i said ahh because I finally got my DNS problem sorted out
[24-Oct-2007 21:57:35] <eurowerke> so now I can connect to IRC directly from my local computer instead of ssh'ing to a remote host to get to the channel
[24-Oct-2007 21:57:42] <eurowerke> lol
[24-Oct-2007 21:59:26] phil is now known as filc
[24-Oct-2007 22:00:18] <eurowerke> speaking of virtual servers...
[24-Oct-2007 22:00:38] <eurowerke> anyone of you running a linux virtual server under virtserver 2005 and solve the host time sync issue?
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:12] <eurowerke> the instructions I've found online tell you to download the server additions for linux and refer to a file it includes that isn't included in the additions file I downloaded
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:31] <eurowerke> and it apparently only works on RHEL and such
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:34] <eurowerke> FC
[24-Oct-2007 22:01:47] <eurowerke> looking for debian-variant way to fix it
[24-Oct-2007 22:03:38] <eurowerke> loses about an hour or two every day or day.5 or so
[24-Oct-2007 22:03:53] <eurowerke> a little too much drift for ntp to handle, apparently
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:13] <progma> eurowerke: not sure about debian, don't you have to recompile the kernel to use a clock tick of 250 instead of 1000? let me dig around
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:28] <eurowerke> i'm already using the kernel param clock=pit
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:31] <eurowerke> that certainly helped
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:34] <eurowerke> but it's still waaaaay off
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:43] <progma> use xen lol
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:46] <eurowerke> heh
[24-Oct-2007 22:04:55] <eurowerke> don't have a linux server I could install it on
[24-Oct-2007 22:05:05] <progma> is the host os synching with an ntp server
[24-Oct-2007 22:05:35] <eurowerke> yeah host os is syncing NTP
[24-Oct-2007 22:09:15] <eurowerke> testing
[24-Oct-2007 22:09:18] <eurowerke> nm
[24-Oct-2007 22:12:14] <progma> ?
[24-Oct-2007 22:12:22] <eurowerke> was just testing something
[24-Oct-2007 22:13:24] <MoreDakka_> Can I add a next hope to a gateway that I can only ping and no snmp? (Internal network -> (vlan1) Cisco871 -> (fa4) Cisco 871 -> Telus Gateway
[24-Oct-2007 22:15:34] <progma> eurowerke: hth http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2189
[24-Oct-2007 22:15:43] <adytum-bot> Title: 0002189: CentOS is not getting optimal performance in a virtualized environment and on slow cpus - CentOS Bug Tracker (at bugs.centos.org)
[24-Oct-2007 22:15:43] <progma> otherwise i'd check #debian
[24-Oct-2007 22:16:37] <filc> MoreDakka: I'd be interested in knowing that too!!
[24-Oct-2007 22:16:59] <MoreDakka_> filc: lets hope someone in here knows./
[24-Oct-2007 22:17:20] <progma> eurowerke: there's some reference to debian there but not much
[24-Oct-2007 22:19:15] <MoreDakka_> Cause I've got my gateway 111.111.111.1 and the eth4 on the cisco 871 is 111.111.111.42 so network 111.111.111.0. Zenoss sees that IP 111.111.111.1 is responding but under network it has under device "None" for that IP.
[24-Oct-2007 22:31:03] <PerlStalker> How do I set the snmp trap server's community string?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:24] <eurowerke> well, that would depend on what sort of system you're setting it up on, PerlStalker
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:25] <eurowerke>
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:33] <eurowerke> in windoze?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:35] <eurowerke> loonix?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:40] <eurowerke> in zenoss?
[24-Oct-2007 22:37:48] <PerlStalker> No. The the trap community that zenoss accepts.
[24-Oct-2007 22:38:22] <PerlStalker> My routers have been previously configured to use something other than public as the trap community.
[24-Oct-2007 22:38:35] <PerlStalker> I'd rather not log into all of them and change that.
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:13] <eurowerke> afaik, the trap community that zenoss accepts is the same community that you used to add the device in the first place
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:17] <eurowerke> I could very much be wrong
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:24] <eurowerke> but that's how i seem to understand it
[24-Oct-2007 22:39:39] <eurowerke> traps are being sent fine from the devices I have specified to send from
[24-Oct-2007 22:43:57] <PerlStalker> Ok. I'll play with it a bit.
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[24-Oct-2007 23:31:02] <guyverix> Is there anyone here who might have some free time to assist me with some event mapping issues?
[24-Oct-2007 23:37:09] <guyverix> ?
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[25-Oct-2007 00:18:43] <guyverix> ?
[25-Oct-2007 00:21:39] <vipp> any one got any info on how to monitor a remote network with a prob
[25-Oct-2007 00:22:37] <vipp> can any one give any help
[25-Oct-2007 00:22:38] <guyverix> depends, are you looking just to see if the remote net is up?
[25-Oct-2007 00:23:17] <vipp> no i am looking to use a prob to monitor pc in a remote network
[25-Oct-2007 00:23:40] <guyverix> oh, a probe..
[25-Oct-2007 00:23:57] <guyverix> and you want to query with snmp, or something else?
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:07] <vipp> i know it would work if there was an agent that worked with windows
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:17] <vipp> snmp would be fine for the time
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:38] <guyverix> well you can do a pass to an exec with snmp
[25-Oct-2007 00:24:41] <vipp> maby some wmi or vbscript to poll some things that snmp would not poll
[25-Oct-2007 00:25:11] <vipp> how do you mean
[25-Oct-2007 00:25:17] <guyverix> I have been writing scripts to get what snmp does not. I have been using exec statments in the snmpd.conf file for this
[25-Oct-2007 00:25:48] <guyverix> are the boxes Windows, or Linux based?
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:03] <vipp> but how could you do a prob that could report the internal network
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:26] <guyverix> the internal network, or the internal machine on the remote network?
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:37] <vipp> windows mostly i could build small boxes with linux but thats just a lot of money
[25-Oct-2007 00:26:57] <vipp> internal machine on the remote network
[25-Oct-2007 00:27:15] <guyverix> IC.. Well what I have been doing is writing scripts that accept arguments, and then calling them with an snmp get command to get the results I am looking for
[25-Oct-2007 00:27:29] <vipp> around 10 internal pc with a 192.168 from an external ip
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:01] <guyverix> each machine will need the exec <path to exe program> put into the snmpd.conf file
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:15] <vipp> are you forwarding multipal snmp ports to the internal pcs
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:18] <guyverix> the exec command is called with a normal snmpwalk / get
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:22] <guyverix> nope
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:34] <guyverix> everythning will work off of 161
[25-Oct-2007 00:28:53] <progma> hmm i didn't realize xen got bought by citrix
[25-Oct-2007 00:29:10] <guyverix> Hmm, thats news to me...
[25-Oct-2007 00:29:19] <vipp> but how dose ext.:161 give all 10 pc in the network
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:07] <vipp> is there any documintation on calling a exec from snmpwalk
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:15] <guyverix> each machine will be polled by zenoss using the OID that relates to the exec command. Then the exe at the far end fires off, grabs the data and sends it back
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:29] <guyverix> yea, it is on the net-SNMP website, and wiki
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:43] <vipp> cool thats for all you help
[25-Oct-2007 00:30:48] <guyverix> sure!
[25-Oct-2007 00:31:47] <vipp> is there any remote control coming to zenoss that you know of are is there any info on how to create you own
[25-Oct-2007 00:33:26] <guyverix> depends on what you men by remote control...
[25-Oct-2007 00:33:44] <guyverix> are you asking about remote commands that you can send to the far end machines?
[25-Oct-2007 00:34:13] <vipp> some thing like vnc of rdp
[25-Oct-2007 00:34:37] <progma> ssh?
[25-Oct-2007 00:34:59] <guyverix> I think I know what you are asking
[25-Oct-2007 00:35:06] <vipp> ssh is fine for *nix but i was thinking about windows
[25-Oct-2007 00:35:33] <guyverix> you can always set the links command to open up vncviewer to the remote machine
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:03] <guyverix> it is a generic area that you can use to open up almost anything..
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:41] <guyverix> as long as it is a regered protocol, the links area will open up whatever you like when you click on the link
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:43] <vipp> where do i find that i have just realy got started in this and by far zenoss is the best i have seen
[25-Oct-2007 00:36:59] <guyverix> zProperties zLinks
[25-Oct-2007 00:39:15] <vipp> let me see if i can find that thanks for you help
[25-Oct-2007 00:39:32] <guyverix> use a basic HTML code for it like <a href = telnet://${here/ManageIp}'target='_'> telnet ${here/id}</a>
[25-Oct-2007 00:40:23] <vipp> ok cool
[25-Oct-2007 00:40:35] <guyverix> oops, there is a typo in the cmd, put another ' between the = and the telnet
[25-Oct-2007 00:40:50] <guyverix> you can change that to use vncviewer as well
[25-Oct-2007 00:41:06] <guyverix> just dont forget the ports that need to be added to the end
[25-Oct-2007 00:42:13] <vipp> ok is that in zport/manager or is there another place
[25-Oct-2007 00:43:30] <guyverix> zProperties zLinks
[25-Oct-2007 00:43:39] <guyverix> click on devices
[25-Oct-2007 00:43:46] <guyverix> then look at the tabs at the top
[25-Oct-2007 00:46:55] <vipp> is the varibuls ${here/manageIp}'target'='22' right
[25-Oct-2007 00:48:18] <guyverix> no, dont define the target like that
[25-Oct-2007 00:48:29] <guyverix> that is part of the syntax to make it display right on the device
[25-Oct-2007 00:49:29] <guyverix> the var ${here/manageIp} is TALES var that will pull the IP from the zenoss database
[25-Oct-2007 00:50:15] <vipp> i just get a red 'ManageIP'
[25-Oct-2007 00:50:20] <guyverix> the actual command that is run from what I gave you is telnet <ip address> The other stuff is how to make it work with Zenoss
[25-Oct-2007 00:51:08] <guyverix> no, dont substatute anything, just put the code in as I posted it here, and look at one of the devices
[25-Oct-2007 00:51:35] <guyverix> it is just a hyperlink to the telnet command. Zenoss adds the IP addresses
[25-Oct-2007 00:58:15] <vipp> man i must be stuped i did this <a href = 'telnet://${here/ManageIp}'target='_'> telnet ${here/id}</a> and i dont get any thing but a big red manageIP
[25-Oct-2007 01:00:37] <guyverix> make the manageIP with a lower case m
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:13] <guyverix> ack
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:21] <guyverix> just like this manageIp
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:27] <guyverix> sigh... it is getting late
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:44] <vipp> im sorry
[25-Oct-2007 01:01:52] <vipp> thanks for all your help
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:09] <guyverix> the link should say telnet (Device name) as an HTML hyperlink
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:25] <guyverix> its no trouble..
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:43] <guyverix> I am waiting to see if anyone has an answer to my questions in the forums
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:45] <guyverix> hehehe
[25-Oct-2007 01:02:51] <guyverix> I dont get to go home just yet..
[25-Oct-2007 01:03:14] <vipp> what do you need help with
[25-Oct-2007 01:03:45] <guyverix> I am trying to get my alarm mapping to work properly
[25-Oct-2007 01:04:10] <guyverix> I have 12000 devices that are very chatty, all with the same OID's
[25-Oct-2007 01:04:42] <guyverix> the messages are what is different in the traps, but I cannot get regex to parse out my traps to different mappings
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:16] <vipp> man that sounds like some magor work
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:35] <guyverix> 20k of traps in 20 minutes sucks no matter what kind of hardware you throw at it
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:36] <guyverix> hehe
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:49] <guyverix> yea..
[25-Oct-2007 01:05:54] <vipp> ya thats right
[25-Oct-2007 01:06:10] <guyverix> the company is finally getting out of startup mode, and getting serious about fault managment
[25-Oct-2007 01:09:38] <vipp> ya im moveing to a comp just to set up a msp still model
[25-Oct-2007 01:09:50] <vipp> oh thanks i got it working
[25-Oct-2007 01:09:59] <guyverix> good, glad to hear it
[25-Oct-2007 01:10:43] <guyverix> if you register the other protocols with your browser, it will open up the programs you need IE ssh, telnet, http, vnc, etc
[25-Oct-2007 01:11:02] <vipp> i wont to get a good remote agent for windows working so that we can do remote managment like with kaseya or n-able
[25-Oct-2007 01:11:43] <vipp> can i just add to the links fild multiy ports
[25-Oct-2007 01:12:17] <guyverix> sure, it is just an html link, you can add several..
[25-Oct-2007 01:12:46] <guyverix> I have one for web servers with different directorys, and even a few with odd ports... all in the links
[25-Oct-2007 01:13:19] <guyverix> just use the
ORT format that you normally would when coding html[25-Oct-2007 01:13:45] <guyverix> just a sec, I will grab my link statement for port 8080 so you will have a devent example
[25-Oct-2007 01:13:57] <guyverix> umm, decent, not devent
[25-Oct-2007 01:14:57] <vipp> cool thanks
[25-Oct-2007 01:16:30] <guyverix> <a href = 'http://${here/ManageIp}:8080/working/directory' target='_'> Webpage ${here/id}</a>
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:09] <vipp> thanks
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:12] <guyverix> dont forget that if you want a generic link, just take out the ${here/id} and it will just be a hyperlink that says Webpage
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:14] <guyverix> no problem
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:39] <vipp> what is the zjmx zenpak
[25-Oct-2007 01:17:59] <guyverix> dont know.. .I dont use any zenpacks..
[25-Oct-2007 01:18:07] <guyverix> I prefer to use nagios if I can
[25-Oct-2007 01:18:20] <guyverix> nagios plugins do work in zenoss
[25-Oct-2007 01:19:03] <guyverix> there are just some pitfalls that you have to keep an eye on with them, since not all of the plugins follow nagios standards..
[25-Oct-2007 01:19:37] <vipp> ok that will be good
[25-Oct-2007 01:20:17] <guyverix> same deal with cacti plugins, there is some parsing done, so they can be used as well
[25-Oct-2007 01:35:15] <guyverix> well have a good night, vipp and good luck!
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[25-Oct-2007 04:58:52] <darkhorse> is is possible to get the wmi collector working without a domain (ie using a local admin user and pass?)
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> 1: how do I make a report (containing <tal> layout tags) into a plugin? (ReportLoader.py yields an error "Traceback (most recent call last):
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> File "ZenReports/Reportloader.py", line 7, in ?
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> import transaction
[25-Oct-2007 13:57:34] <Robbadub> Import Error: No module named transaction ")
[25-Oct-2007 13:58:10] <Robbadub> 1: how do I make a report (containing <tal> layout tags) into a plugin? (ReportLoader.py yields an error "Traceback (most recent call last): File "ZenReports/Reportloader.py", line 7, in ? import transaction Import Error: No module named transaction ")
[25-Oct-2007 13:58:33] <Robbadub> 2: how do I copy or add a report to the Zope interface (without import/export function)
[25-Oct-2007 13:59:07] <Robbadub> 3: how do I add a report to the Zope interface using the import/export function?
[25-Oct-2007 14:03:09] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[25-Oct-2007 14:03:42] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone describe System and Group...what you might set them as? Location is pretty much self explained.
[25-Oct-2007 14:14:10] <filc> I've used system for "Networking", "File & Print", "Terminal Servers", "ERP"..... dunno what to use group for.... anyone else?
[25-Oct-2007 14:14:42] <filc> MoreDakka: Did you get a response to you question yesterday?
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:19] <MoreDakka_> This one? "Can I add a next hope to a gateway that I can only ping and no snmp? (Internal network -> (vlan1) Cisco871 -> (fa4) Cisco 871 -> Telus Gateway"
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:32] <filc> yup.
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:42] <MoreDakka_> Naw, didn't get anything outta that.
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:49] <MoreDakka_> I'm not sure if I figured it out myself though.
[25-Oct-2007 14:15:50] <filc>
[25-Oct-2007 14:18:18] <MoreDakka_> On the gateway I added an Interface that is up but not monitored and I gave it the gateway's IP. Then on the same device I created a Route Destination=Internal Network, NextHop=Gateway's IP (the IP of the interface you created), Interface=the one you created, Protocol=local, Type=indirect
[25-Oct-2007 14:18:42] <Robbadub> Filc: System and Group are really optional to your own liking
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:12] <Robbadub> System could be containers like Webservers, terminlservers Sql servers etc
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:14] <MoreDakka_> then on the cisco 871 the default route (0.0.0.0/0) I made sure points to the interface you created on the gateway device.
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:40] <MoreDakka_> It seems to fool Zenoss into thinking there is a route there but if something goes down it would be interesting to see if it reports it properly.
[25-Oct-2007 14:19:41] <Robbadub> Groups are even more abstract. If you would for instance group the by administrator on your team or something like that
[25-Oct-2007 14:20:17] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I was thinking that Group was an extra sorting that is optional...same with systems
[25-Oct-2007 14:24:32] <Robbadub> Als o it appears that after upgrading it takes a while for Zenoss to re-model everything and display it properly. I even had to restart the entire system
[25-Oct-2007 14:24:49] <Robbadub> I do have a buggy nag in the devicelist
[25-Oct-2007 14:27:15] <Robbadub> Zenoss cannot open the site http://zenos.mydomain.local:8080/pathtodevice Operatioon Aborted
[25-Oct-2007 14:27:28] <Robbadub> Drives me up the wall
[25-Oct-2007 14:30:16] <MoreDakka_> :-/ sorry can't help you with that one....I'm getting drivin' up the wall by the fact that I can't import the data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1. I might be entering a lot of stuff by hand....150+ devices
[25-Oct-2007 14:43:03] <Robbadub> MoreDakk: can't you discover them?
[25-Oct-2007 14:50:39] <MoreDakka_> All the sites that we monitor are remote and not easliy discovered all at once.
[25-Oct-2007 14:51:02] <MoreDakka_> It would probably take me more time to setup the networks for each set then just add them by hand.
[25-Oct-2007 14:57:46] <Robbadub> Then again if you would develop a procedure your would not have to do much work when expanding
[25-Oct-2007 14:57:59] <Robbadub> Use a tool like Look@lan to make import lists
[25-Oct-2007 14:58:09] <Robbadub> You can import devices via xml
[25-Oct-2007 14:59:05] <frawd> anyone here knows if it's possible to use a nagios plugins but have a status output like in nagios? With an output line and an icon? I can only configure nagios plugins to display graphics on the perfomance tab, but cannot put them to display on the OS Tab.
[25-Oct-2007 15:23:49] <MoreDakka_> How can I get Zenoss to show that there is a layer 2 switch in between devices? (Computer<-> Cisco 2950 <-> Cisco 871 <-> Internet)?
[25-Oct-2007 16:20:59] <eurowerke> anyone found a solution for unknown speeds on propVirtual interfaces?
[25-Oct-2007 16:23:36] <phurba> hi, I've inherited what looks to be a semi-complete zenoss setup. Alerts are working (though there are a lot of false positives) but the Perf tab for every machine displays no graphs (just broken images). When i run zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d taz1.domainit.com it does not update the perfs and I get INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:Unresponsive devices: [[ <all of the machines it monitors>]], INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 0 of 0 devices in 0.00
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:10] <eurowerke> phurba: check the communities is the first thing I would check
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:29] <phurba> eurowerke: how?
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:44] <eurowerke> on the devices themselves
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:50] <eurowerke> I don't know how on those devices
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:54] <eurowerke> unless it's been changed
[25-Oct-2007 16:24:57] <eurowerke> it should be 'public'
[25-Oct-2007 16:25:00] <eurowerke> or 'private'
[25-Oct-2007 16:25:14] <eurowerke> does the -d taz1.domainit.com mean that the devices are outside of your LAN?
[25-Oct-2007 16:26:06] <eurowerke> zenoss uses public and private as communities to check by default
[25-Oct-2007 16:26:21] <eurowerke> defined under zProperties in the various templates under zSnmpCommunities
[25-Oct-2007 16:26:44] <phurba> no, it's on the lan. but that might be an interesting point -- there is an internal network which is what zenoss *should* be going through
[25-Oct-2007 16:27:19] <phurba> zSnmpCommunity for that device is public
[25-Oct-2007 16:27:44] <eurowerke> ping that host from a LAN wkstation command line
[25-Oct-2007 16:27:52] <eurowerke> see if it resolves to an internal or external ip addr
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:01] <phurba> its resolving to external
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:05] <eurowerke> ahh
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:13] <eurowerke> so I guess it could be going outside then
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:21] <eurowerke> I don't know much about security
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:33] <phurba> however the "Manage IP" is the correct lan ip for that device
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:41] <eurowerke> was that autodetected?
[25-Oct-2007 16:28:58] <phurba> i don't know
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:02] <eurowerke> are there 2 nics in the system, one for external network and one internal?
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:06] <phurba> yes
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:18] <phurba> plus an additional one on crossover to its failover device
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:26] <eurowerke> ok
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:29] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:42] <eurowerke> would it kill you to delete the device and re-add it?
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:53] <phurba> i'd reall prefer not to
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:57] <eurowerke> ok
[25-Oct-2007 16:29:58] <phurba> although i can re-add it with a different name
[25-Oct-2007 16:30:45] <eurowerke> try to remodel the device
[25-Oct-2007 16:30:50] <eurowerke> go into the device main tab
[25-Oct-2007 16:31:36] <phurba> how do i remodel it?
[25-Oct-2007 16:32:03] <eurowerke> go into the device's page
[25-Oct-2007 16:32:53] <phurba> and then? (I'm not sure what you mean by remodel)
[25-Oct-2007 16:32:57] <eurowerke> e.g. when I click on one of my switches it goes to /Devices/Network/Switch/WEST_1
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:07] <eurowerke> what version are you using?
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:09] <eurowerke> actually
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:10] <eurowerke> 2.1?
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:41] <phurba> actually i'm not sure
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:44] <eurowerke> heheh
[25-Oct-2007 16:33:57] <eurowerke> do you have a "Network Map" link on the left side?
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:13] <phurba> no
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:22] <eurowerke> ok prob 2.0.x I guess then
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:24] <eurowerke> okay
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:31] <eurowerke> well on the upper left corner of the main tab
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:41] <phurba> actually it may be 1.9.7
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:42] <eurowerke> the little down triangle thing
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:48] <eurowerke> ahhh ok
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:49] <phurba> that seems to be the most recent source directory i can find
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:59] <eurowerke> ahh
[25-Oct-2007 16:34:59] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:11] <eurowerke> i forget how to do it on that one
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:12] <eurowerke> dang
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:13] <eurowerke> hehe
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:37] <eurowerke> seems like most people around here are at least using 2.0.x
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:44] <phurba> hrm.. "Lost Connection to Zenoss"
[25-Oct-2007 16:35:48] <phurba> yet the processes are still running
[25-Oct-2007 16:36:31] <phurba> it's back
[25-Oct-2007 16:37:38] <phurba> woah damn, it's 1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:37:50] <eurowerke> YIKES
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:03] <eurowerke> you may want to upgrade before you start fiddling with other probs
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:09] <phurba> yeah i expect
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:19] <eurowerke> there's been a lot of changes since then
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:32] <phurba> any idea in regards to a smooth upgrade path?
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:36] <eurowerke> haha
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:37] <eurowerke> ^_^
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:38] <eurowerke> sorry
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:39] <MoreDakka_> Can the Availability be reset?
[25-Oct-2007 16:38:51] <eurowerke> ahh some help!
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:03] <MoreDakka_> phurba....yay I'm not the only one on v1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:10] <MoreDakka_> I'm not alone.
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:10] <eurowerke> you are too Dakk?
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:12] <eurowerke> dang lol
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:18] <MoreDakka_> Yeah our production server is.
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:21] <eurowerke> ahh
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:29] <MoreDakka_> I've got a new production server that I'm trying to get to 2.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:34] <eurowerke> well I'll let you two mingle then
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:34] <MoreDakka_> 2.1 is much nicer.
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:34] <phurba> moredakka_: haha, so do you know how to fix the issue with perfs i'm having?
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:38] <eurowerke> heck yea
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:43] <phurba> i'm sure it is
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:44] <phurba> sad thing
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:45] <eurowerke> I personally so far prefer 2.0.6
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:48] <eurowerke> but 2.1 is nice
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:56] <phurba> zenoss was installed around july of this year
[25-Oct-2007 16:39:58] <MoreDakka_> the maps is a nice issue.
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:02] <phurba> by a guy who no longer works here
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:02] <eurowerke> yep
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:06] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:10] <MoreDakka_> that's always fun
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:15] <MoreDakka_> how many devices?
[25-Oct-2007 16:40:44] <phurba> 17 configured, probably around 5 which should be added
[25-Oct-2007 16:41:55] <phurba> going to go ahead and show my inexperience with zenoss here, but what does it require the monitored machines to be running? just snmp, or is this something special that they run?
[25-Oct-2007 16:41:58] <MoreDakka_> bah, 17 isn't that much. Heh it would almost be worth it to just do an "upgrade" which may or may not work from 1.1.1 and then add those devices manually (or let zenoss discover them) rather then troubleshooting v1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:07] <frawd> anyone here knows if it's possible to use a nagios plugin but displaying the results in the OS tab, near the filesystems, etc..? I can only figure out how-to configure nagios plugins to display graphics on the perfomance tab...
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:20] <MoreDakka_> Zenoss can monitor with just ping or ping/snmp
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:28] <MoreDakka_> or wmi I think.
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:29] <MoreDakka_> never used it though.
[25-Oct-2007 16:42:42] <phurba> i think it's doing more than that right now though
[25-Oct-2007 16:44:45] <MoreDakka_> So do you want to try to TS v1.1.1? I don't know if I can totally help you but I can try. However, it might be better just to upgrade and clean out a lot of bugs that way.
[25-Oct-2007 16:45:55] <phurba> yeah actually i would prefer to get this going. the move to 2.1 won't happen any time soon for a couple of rather annoying reasons
[25-Oct-2007 16:46:31] <MoreDakka_> Ha. Don't get stuck where I am....150 devices and the import from 1.1.1 -> 2.1 isn't working.
[25-Oct-2007 16:47:23] <phurba> i'll try to keep that from happening
[25-Oct-2007 16:49:10] <MoreDakka_> Were you able to check the communities?
[25-Oct-2007 16:49:23] <phurba> they are public
[25-Oct-2007 16:49:24] <MoreDakka_> Cause having broken images is weird.
[25-Oct-2007 16:50:20] <eurowerke> hey dakka quick q: do you know if when creating graph points, they have to be the same name as the data source?
[25-Oct-2007 16:50:49] <eurowerke> I renamed one of my data sources then recreated the graph point for my graph using the right data source, and for some reason it b0rked it
[25-Oct-2007 16:50:52] <eurowerke> couldn't graph anymore
[25-Oct-2007 16:51:47] <MoreDakka_> It has to be the name of the DataPoint I think.
[25-Oct-2007 16:51:53] <eurowerke> okay cool
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:00] <MoreDakka_> It's either no images (so the OID is probably incorrect) or zenoss hasn't polled enough from that box to get a graph created.
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:05] <phurba> the community is listed as public in the zProperties tab, and clicking "Collect Configuration" on the manage tab seems to do so successfully
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:13] <eurowerke> it had been graphing previous to the change
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:23] <eurowerke> then I decided I didn't like the name of the data source
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:24] <MoreDakka_> sorry, that comment was for phurba's issue.
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:27] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:28] <eurowerke> oh
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:29] <eurowerke> hahah
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:41] <MoreDakka_> You should change the name of the DS to b0rked.
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:41] <eurowerke> funny because zenoss was saying my OID was wrong lol
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:43] <MoreDakka_> heheh
[25-Oct-2007 16:52:45] <eurowerke> heheh
[25-Oct-2007 16:53:40] <MoreDakka_> gah, 2.1 is much more differnent for the graphs then 1.1.1....so I might be telling you crap.
[25-Oct-2007 16:53:47] <eurowerke> perhaps
[25-Oct-2007 16:53:54] <eurowerke> but it does seem to work with the same name DS and GP
[25-Oct-2007 16:54:04] <eurowerke> so... perhaps not much has changed in the graphing component itself
[25-Oct-2007 16:54:05] <eurowerke>
[25-Oct-2007 16:54:37] <MoreDakka_> Do you know if the Availability % can be reset?
[25-Oct-2007 16:55:55] <phurba> moredakka: the graphs seem to be configured properly on the PerfConf tab, and the Collect Configuration overn snmp works, but manually running zenperfsnmpd run reports that all of the devices it should be collecting stats from are unresponsive. is there something weird or special necessary in the snmpd config on the target device?
[25-Oct-2007 16:56:02] <tristanbob> progma: are you going to look into an Ubuntu package for Zenoss?
[25-Oct-2007 16:56:44] <eurowerke> phurba: do you have a box you can try to snmpwalk the devices to be sure they're responsive?
[25-Oct-2007 16:56:53] <eurowerke> then you can isolate to zenoss issue or device issue
[25-Oct-2007 16:57:35] <MoreDakka_> What happens when you run snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic taz1.domainit.com from the command prompt?
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:18] <phurba> eurowerke: yes i can do that
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:20] <phurba> one moment
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:50] <phurba> timeout no response
[25-Oct-2007 16:58:51] <phurba> interesting
[25-Oct-2007 16:59:23] <MoreDakka_> Uh oh.
[25-Oct-2007 16:59:52] <phurba> strangely, the snmpd is running on that machine
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:03] <phurba> ah
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:08] <phurba> if i point it at the lan ip address it works
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:27] <phurba> so it appears that zenoss is trying to contact it over the internet ip, not the local one
[25-Oct-2007 17:00:35] <phurba> yet the lan ip is listed as the Management IP
[25-Oct-2007 17:02:30] <MoreDakka_> If you ping taz1.domainit.com do you get the lan IP or the wan IP?
[25-Oct-2007 17:02:35] <phurba> wan
[25-Oct-2007 17:02:40] <MoreDakka_> (from the zenoss box)
[25-Oct-2007 17:03:13] <MoreDakka_> So the DNS server has the WAN IP for that box so that's what Zenoss is looking for...well that's what every machine that is looking for that will be looking for.
[25-Oct-2007 17:03:35] <phurba> but why? shouldn't it be using the value it has for management ip?
[25-Oct-2007 17:04:32] <MoreDakka_> That's a good question. It should be using that...hold on let me check something.
[25-Oct-2007 17:07:04] <MoreDakka_> Yeah it should use the management IP that is set. I have a box that has a valid dns name (host.domain.com), if I change the management IP on that box to something else then use the ping function it pings the new management IP not the DNS IP.
[25-Oct-2007 17:07:46] <phurba> yeah when i run ping on it (from zenoss) it uses the lan ip
[25-Oct-2007 17:09:26] <MoreDakka_> Yup. Looks like it uses the FQDN when running the "collect configuration" rather then the management IP.
[25-Oct-2007 17:10:00] <MoreDakka_> Try changing the name of the machine to taz1-domainit-com and the management IP to what it should be then try again.
[25-Oct-2007 17:12:55] <phurba> no, it does you the management ip for 'collect configuration'
[25-Oct-2007 17:13:29] <MoreDakka_> it uses the management IP for collection?
[25-Oct-2007 17:13:42] <phurba> when i hit the collect configuration button, yes
[25-Oct-2007 17:13:53] <phurba> but not when i manually run zenossperfsnmp
[25-Oct-2007 17:14:10] <MoreDakka_> Well when you manually run it you use the FQDN right?
[25-Oct-2007 17:14:32] <MoreDakka_> The command you used was "zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d taz1.domainit.com" right?
[25-Oct-2007 17:15:08] <phurba> right
[25-Oct-2007 17:15:25] <MoreDakka_> So the FQDN points to the WAN IP...so that won't work.
[25-Oct-2007 17:15:34] <MoreDakka_> try zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d <LAN IP>
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:25] <phurba> i tried that and it didn't work
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:27] <phurba> but
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:36] <phurba> i just redid it with the changed machine name
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:40] <phurba> and now there are graphs!
[25-Oct-2007 17:16:46] <MoreDakka_> fun
[25-Oct-2007 17:17:03] <MoreDakka_> <whispering>upgradetov2.1</wispering>
[25-Oct-2007 17:17:18] <phurba> so i should change all the machine names from the fqdn to just the hostname and it should work
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[25-Oct-2007 17:40:26] <eurowerke> phurba: so you just readded the device using just the hostnames?
[25-Oct-2007 17:40:34] <eurowerke> instead of FQDN?
[25-Oct-2007 17:40:45] <MoreDakka_> Probably just renamed them
[25-Oct-2007 17:40:48] <eurowerke> ah
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:05] <eurowerke> heh I was thinking it was exactly this problem
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:10] <MoreDakka_> So I'm assuming you don't know if the Availability % can be reset somewhere?
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:11] <eurowerke> DNS lookup giving WAN ip
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:16] <eurowerke> me?
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:19] <MoreDakka_> yeah
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:22] <eurowerke> availability of what?
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:26] <MoreDakka_> heh no, the other people chatting here.
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:31] <eurowerke> haha
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:38] <eurowerke> I had thought you were talking to phurb before
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:45] <eurowerke> sorry -__
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:47] <eurowerke> -_-
[25-Oct-2007 17:41:56] <MoreDakka_> haha...no worries ;-)
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:09] <eurowerke> I don't know where that could be reset
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:10] <MoreDakka_> Availability
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:10] <MoreDakka_> 100.000%
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:16] <MoreDakka_> bah...stupid paste.
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:34] <eurowerke> well, if you reset it, it should default to 100%, right?
[25-Oct-2007 17:42:50] <MoreDakka_> right....sorry that device was a bad example.
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:20] <eurowerke> you trying to get it to say all your devices are 100% available?
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:35] <eurowerke> only way I can think to reset it would be to readd the device...
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:53] <MoreDakka_> Or if a devies gets taken out then you need to reset it (cause zenoss is a little slow sometimes when you tell it to ignore pings/snmp)
[25-Oct-2007 17:43:53] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:07] <eurowerke> that's what I was thinking
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:36] <eurowerke> for some reason it seems like when a device goes down, when it comes back the availability has reset
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:42] <eurowerke> one of the daemons must reset it someway
[25-Oct-2007 17:44:56] <eurowerke> have you tried clearing heartbeats?
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:13] <MoreDakka_> Yeah that does nothing.
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:22] <MoreDakka_> except clear heartbeats.
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:26] <eurowerke> lol
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:27] <MoreDakka_> fancy that...
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:28] <eurowerke> hrm
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:32] <eurowerke> whaddya know!
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:33] <eurowerke> haha
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:37] <phurba> eurowerke: well, that kinda fixed it. when i renamed the device, it now shows graphs, but they are void of data
[25-Oct-2007 17:45:51] <eurowerke> oh so before you only had the left/right arrow things?
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:06] <eurowerke> now the graph is there but no data
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:09] <eurowerke> ?
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:15] <phurba> no, before i had broken images. now i have the graph with no data
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:18] <eurowerke> dang Dakka, there's gotta be some way to do it
[25-Oct-2007 17:46:26] <MoreDakka_> hmmm.
[25-Oct-2007 17:47:24] <MoreDakka_> What's the OS on the box you are trying to get info from?
[25-Oct-2007 17:47:31] <phurba> freebsd
[25-Oct-2007 17:48:32] <MoreDakka_> Do you have the device under the /Devices/server/linux class?
[25-Oct-2007 17:49:10] <phurba> no, /Server/FreeBSD
[25-Oct-2007 17:49:24] <MoreDakka_> ok, so I'm assuming the quitter created that.
[25-Oct-2007 17:49:37] <phurba> must have
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:06] <phurba> are you suggesting i change it to /Server/Linux ?
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:14] <MoreDakka_> It's worth a shot.
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:24] <phurba> any possible rammifications?
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:41] <MoreDakka_> See if he has the OIDs all messed up. the /server/linux are pretty generic oids
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:42] <MoreDakka_> Nope.
[25-Oct-2007 17:50:48] <MoreDakka_> You can always move it right back.
[25-Oct-2007 17:51:26] <phurba> k
[25-Oct-2007 17:53:15] <phurba> change it and re-ran zenperfsnmpd manually. no change.
[25-Oct-2007 17:53:27] <MoreDakka_> You'll have to let it poll
[25-Oct-2007 17:53:31] <MoreDakka_> wait 10 minutes.
[25-Oct-2007 17:55:09] <phurba> k
[25-Oct-2007 17:55:18] <phurba> i thought zenperfsnmpd would poll it
[25-Oct-2007 18:02:59] <MoreDakka_> It collect the config but for the graphs to be created needs to be polled by the zenoss process (I guess)
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[25-Oct-2007 18:09:06] <hkc> Anyone know how to do snmpv3 with Zenoss 2.1? I see where it's supposed to be supported but there is only a community string in the screen... no options for "username & password"
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[25-Oct-2007 18:56:56] <jsm> ok.. i have two rhel5 boxes.. i want to move my zenoss box to the new server.. what files do i need to move?
[25-Oct-2007 18:57:19] <jsm> i installed zenoss with the rpm, btw
[25-Oct-2007 19:01:02] <jsm> nevermind, found it : http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1/ch22s01.html
[25-Oct-2007 19:01:16] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Oct-2007 19:09:15] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[25-Oct-2007 19:22:53] <jsm> hmmm.. that whole backup and restore didn't go to well.. i don't see any devices
[25-Oct-2007 19:24:36] <jsm> I see the perf data was restored, but there's no devices list nor any event data
[25-Oct-2007 19:42:51] <MoreDakka_> I kinda wish a dev would take another look at my topic: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3712 I'm sure I'm not the only one to try to import from v1.1.1
[25-Oct-2007 19:43:08] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - migrating data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1...doesn't like me. (at community.zenoss.com)
[25-Oct-2007 19:44:03] <jsm> MoreDakka_: i can't even migrate from one box to another running the same version
[25-Oct-2007 19:45:03] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Oct-2007 19:45:09] <MoreDakka_> Well I'm screwed then
[25-Oct-2007 19:46:03] <filc> Glad I chose to run in a CentOS VM then!!
[25-Oct-2007 19:46:21] <MoreDakka_> Yeah just backup the image.
[25-Oct-2007 19:46:30] <erx_h> does someone know irc bot for zenoss, similar to nagircbot ?
[25-Oct-2007 20:43:39] <MoreDakka_> Who here is running 2.1?
[25-Oct-2007 20:44:15] <monrad> me
[25-Oct-2007 20:44:35] <MoreDakka_> Do you have a lot of different locations?
[25-Oct-2007 20:46:37] <MoreDakka_> I'm just trying to figure out how I want to do this setup...
[25-Oct-2007 20:47:14] <MoreDakka_> Cause we have about 10 different companies and about 15 sites for each company and multiple radios at each site....
[25-Oct-2007 20:49:24] <monrad> well not yet
[25-Oct-2007 20:49:43] <monrad> i think we have our ~20 core locations in now
[25-Oct-2007 20:49:58] <monrad> but we are thinking about putting all our ~300 sites in
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:11] <MoreDakka_> so how would you do your locations?
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:21] <MoreDakka_> Would you want to see all 300 locations on the dashboard map?
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:31] <monrad> i am not sure about that yet
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:38] <MoreDakka_> That's where I'm stuck...
[25-Oct-2007 20:50:48] <monrad> because then i dont think i can se the core clearly
[25-Oct-2007 20:51:29] <MoreDakka_> The locations that we monitor are hundreds of kilometers away from us and eachother so I don't think they'll impact eachother...
[25-Oct-2007 20:52:07] <MoreDakka_> I would really really like it if zenoss could make a link between two devices without snmp.
[25-Oct-2007 20:52:25] <MoreDakka_> ie: Internet -> Radio -> Radio -> End client
[25-Oct-2007 20:52:50] <MoreDakka_> the radio -> radio would be sweet to see on the map (heh we have a wireless shot that is 118km long :-D
[25-Oct-2007 21:37:46] <PerlStalker> Can someone tell my why the default through graphs are labeled Bits/sec when they are displaying Bytes/sec?
[25-Oct-2007 21:38:06] <MoreDakka_> Anyone know why all of a sudden my google map in zenoss is showing a repeated world?
[25-Oct-2007 21:38:33] <MoreDakka_> The addresses are correct on the locations that should be showing
[25-Oct-2007 21:39:03] <MoreDakka_> I was adding some sub locations to drill down further and when I was testing it I couldn't anything other than a repeated world.
[25-Oct-2007 21:49:16] <MoreDakka_> Great....does anyone else have 2.1 and is their map working?
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[26-Oct-2007 10:25:07] <Saurav> hi all..
[26-Oct-2007 10:25:15] <Saurav> any one here
[26-Oct-2007 10:25:52] <Saurav> hi there
[26-Oct-2007 10:26:17] <frawd> hello
[26-Oct-2007 10:26:50] <Saurav> seems everyone is out.
[26-Oct-2007 10:27:01] <Saurav> i am from london.. where are you from??
[26-Oct-2007 10:27:23] <Saurav> i have a couple of questions on zenoss.. ..
[26-Oct-2007 10:27:33] <Saurav> are you a zenoss engineer..
[26-Oct-2007 12:24:51] <passie> is there somebody who could help me with performance graphs for gig nics ?
[26-Oct-2007 12:26:09] <passie> the graphs of my machine says there is 7 mbit troughput , but i know there is 70 mbit data at the moment
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[26-Oct-2007 14:42:57] <MoreDakka_> Anyone know why all of a sudden my google map in zenoss is showing a repeated world?
[26-Oct-2007 14:42:59] <MoreDakka_> I was adding some sub locations to drill down further and when I was testing it I couldn't anything other than a repeated world.
[26-Oct-2007 14:55:17] <passie> probaly geocache problem
[26-Oct-2007 14:56:24] <MoreDakka_> How do I fix it?
[26-Oct-2007 14:56:42] <passie> you can delete the cache so google api gets new maps
[26-Oct-2007 14:56:49] <passie> 1 sec i'll find the url
[26-Oct-2007 14:57:28] <passie> http://$ip/zport/dmd/Locations/$yoursite/javascript/manage
[26-Oct-2007 14:57:36] <passie> change ip and yoursite
[26-Oct-2007 14:57:57] <passie> then click dmd in the breadcrumbs
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:03] <passie> click properties en scroll down
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:14] <passie> there you will find geocache
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:23] <passie> you can delete everything there and press save
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:28] <passie> then it will work again
[26-Oct-2007 14:58:36] <MoreDakka_> I have a javascript error in IE6 " 'geocodecache' is undefined "
[26-Oct-2007 14:59:01] <passie> jup, there is still a bug somewhere but it will work for nwo
[26-Oct-2007 14:59:02] <passie> now
[26-Oct-2007 14:59:20] <passie> you found it ?
[26-Oct-2007 15:00:30] <passie> http://ip:8080/zport/dmd/manage_propertiesForm
[26-Oct-2007 15:00:32] <passie> faster url
[26-Oct-2007 15:00:53] <passie> scroll down and you will see geocache
[26-Oct-2007 15:02:08] <passie> any luck ?.
[26-Oct-2007 15:03:14] <MoreDakka_> Do I just delete eeverything in the geocache string?
[26-Oct-2007 15:03:19] <passie> yes
[26-Oct-2007 15:03:49] <passie> it will fill up when you reload the first page (dashboard)
[26-Oct-2007 15:06:13] <passie> it's weekend for me so good luck, ciao
[26-Oct-2007 15:07:51] <MoreDakka_> yay fixed the problem. thanks
[26-Oct-2007 15:43:29] <captiancrash> What url should be used when registering for a google maps api key when the zenoss is behind a NAT router? (or is this where enterprise API keys some into play?)
[26-Oct-2007 15:44:49] <MoreDakka_> Mines behind a NAT firewall but I have a DNS name for it, I just did monitor.domain.com:8080
[26-Oct-2007 15:45:06] <MoreDakka_> So I suppose you could use $IP:8080
[26-Oct-2007 15:54:17] <captiancrash> didn't work. still saying it's from the wrong url.
[26-Oct-2007 15:54:41] <captiancrash> now, i don't know an forward rules or such for the zenoss box, so in theory, you can't access it from the outside. could that be a problem?
[26-Oct-2007 15:55:06] <MoreDakka_> Mine isn't accessable from the outside. Do you have a FQDN for it or just an IP?
[26-Oct-2007 15:55:25] <MoreDakka_> did you put the :8080?
[26-Oct-2007 15:55:31] <MoreDakka_> or whatever you set the port to?
[26-Oct-2007 15:56:12] <captiancrash> just an IP, i could setup an A record for it.
[26-Oct-2007 15:56:29] <captiancrash> yea, http:IP.ADD.RES.SS:8080
[26-Oct-2007 15:56:33] <captiancrash> http//*
[26-Oct-2007 15:57:05] <MoreDakka_> might want to try an A record. NAT doesn't have anything to do with this.
[26-Oct-2007 16:00:34] <captiancrash> past saving, is there any other tricks i need to do for changes to take affect once updating the API key in settings?
[26-Oct-2007 16:01:19] <MoreDakka_> just put in the locaitons
[26-Oct-2007 16:01:41] <MoreDakka_> The dashboard map only reads locations in the root or /Locations.
[26-Oct-2007 16:01:51] <MoreDakka_> It doesn't drill through any sub locations.
[26-Oct-2007 16:03:30] <captiancrash> eh, i'm still getting the "The Google Maps API key used was registered for a different website.... " message.
[26-Oct-2007 16:08:32] <MoreDakka_> I don't know if this is the case but wonder if the hostname on the box has to match the FQDN for the api to work...?
[26-Oct-2007 16:09:08] <captiancrash> the title of the error does include the local IP of the box, so maybe that's it.
[26-Oct-2007 16:09:18] <captiancrash> it would make sense.
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[26-Oct-2007 17:41:58] <mf2ng> hi all
[26-Oct-2007 17:43:07] <mf2ng> can't get HP-LASERJET-COMMON-MIB to work, it loads fine with zenmib run but there's no OID mappings at all... anyone know the reason of this?
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[26-Oct-2007 20:37:33] <exothermc> Is there someway to setup dependancies, so I don't get notifications of all hosts if a core router fails?
[26-Oct-2007 20:37:43] <exothermc> err all host behind the router.
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[27-Oct-2007 03:10:57] <jds2001> anyone know how the software tab is populated on a device? For RH hosts, I'd like it to show me all of the RPM's that are installed. Seems that it *can* be grabbed via SNMP in the HOST-RESOURCES-MIB
[27-Oct-2007 03:12:15] <jds2001> on my current host (i just have one for testing right now), it is blank :-(
[27-Oct-2007 03:50:14] <jds2001> i just realized that the HOST-RESOURCES-MIB was not in zenoss. I imported (copied to /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site) and then ran zenmib run *, which was successful and I can now see the MIB
[27-Oct-2007 03:50:35] <jds2001> in the WebUI, however I re-modeled the device and no software still.
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[27-Oct-2007 07:02:47] <darkhorse> yea, i was wondering the same thing
[27-Oct-2007 07:02:55] <darkhorse> err
[27-Oct-2007 07:02:59] <darkhorse> about the dependencies
[27-Oct-2007 07:03:14] <jds2001> that i think you can do
[27-Oct-2007 07:03:29] <jds2001> there's a option for 'dependent devices'
[27-Oct-2007 07:04:00] <jds2001> im not sure how to specify them or if it's somehow auto-discovered. I'm still a n00b :-)
[27-Oct-2007 07:50:02] <darkhorse> right
[27-Oct-2007 07:50:12] <darkhorse> but nothing seems to ever get discovered there
[27-Oct-2007 07:50:24] <darkhorse> so i wasnt sure if you had to do some manual thing to get it to work
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[27-Oct-2007 23:51:00] <otakup0pe> ohhi. so is it possible to change the zEventAction on the uknown event class ?
[27-Oct-2007 23:51:12] <otakup0pe> also, zenoss = hot but i'm sure you all know that
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[28-Oct-2007 00:50:05] <otakup0pe> so the internet tells me that using a transform with event mappings doesn't work as of 2.0.4. which implies it should with 2.1 ?
[28-Oct-2007 01:46:29] <otakup0pe> ok i have it working now. but it seems to also overwrite evt.message as well :s
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[28-Oct-2007 15:14:38] <jds2001> two questions - how do i override a threshold value for a given mount point, and how do I define that 90% is a warning, 95% is an error, and 98% is critical? I've gotten the latter, except that I get multiple events. I want to only get *one* event (be it warning, error, or critical) for the given filesystem.
[28-Oct-2007 17:05:38] <stefaans> ello all
[28-Oct-2007 17:38:45] <filc> ello
[28-Oct-2007 17:48:20] <stefaans> nice to meet you :-)
[28-Oct-2007 17:50:35] <stefaans> ello fishstickz
[28-Oct-2007 17:52:13] <fishstickz> Hi
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:15] <stefaans> you a regular here?
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:28] <filc> just learning zenoss
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:37] <fishstickz> I'm an IT guy with zenoss
[28-Oct-2007 17:53:49] <stefaans> coool
[28-Oct-2007 17:54:21] <stefaans> then you like to know I think zenoss is the best thing since sliced bread :-D
[28-Oct-2007 17:54:49] <stefaans> I am still learning tho
[28-Oct-2007 17:54:50] <filc> do you use Zenoss stefaans?
[28-Oct-2007 17:55:02] <fishstickz> Well, we already knew that, but thanks
[28-Oct-2007 17:55:20] <stefaans> I am busy with R&D and just decided this is what I want to use
[28-Oct-2007 17:55:55] <stefaans> I tried a couple of other ones but this beats them all hands down
[28-Oct-2007 17:56:39] <stefaans> other interesting one was zabbix, but too hard to get all your devices on
[28-Oct-2007 17:56:54] <stefaans> currantly busy with setup
[28-Oct-2007 17:57:39] <stefaans> and you?
[28-Oct-2007 18:03:13] <stefaans> was hoping to find someone here to help me with something but my words are echoing around in the silence
[28-Oct-2007 18:08:34] <filc> echo.....
[28-Oct-2007 18:12:09] <stefaans> hehehehe
[28-Oct-2007 18:16:19] <jds2001> hehe i have like five questions outstanding.
[28-Oct-2007 18:19:32] <stefaans> oh well, maybe I must try during the day
[28-Oct-2007 18:21:52] <stefaans> bye all
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[29-Oct-2007 05:53:23] <darkhorse> does anyone know what would prevent zenoss from detecting network topology?
[29-Oct-2007 05:53:44] <darkhorse> for example, it has no idea that hosts located behind router X are dependant upon it
[29-Oct-2007 05:53:58] <darkhorse> so if the router goes down we get alarms for everything
[29-Oct-2007 05:54:16] <darkhorse> i know this is a feature, we just must be missing something simple to enable it
[29-Oct-2007 09:30:14] <Folke> Arrh, I am in souch pain over 2 graph thingies in zenoss
[29-Oct-2007 09:31:02] <Folke> First I try to get check_nt get stuff from nsclient. And it works like a charm.
[29-Oct-2007 09:31:46] <Folke> But I can't find any info how zenossperf want it's input. Any info how the syntax should be?
[29-Oct-2007 11:25:59] <mf2ng> hmm, is there no reasonable way to add OID-mappings? i mean that it's quite ridicilous idea to manually add every OID mapping needed
[29-Oct-2007 11:28:20] <mf2ng> For example i have hmm, several various laser/thermal/line-printers of different vendors, various rf-base stations (non 802.11), etc that have hmm... at least hundreds of OID's that would have to be added manually
[29-Oct-2007 12:20:11] <pablo26> hi all
[29-Oct-2007 12:20:25] <pablo26> how do i upggrade from 2.0.4 to 2.1?
[29-Oct-2007 12:24:35] <pablo26> ll
[29-Oct-2007 13:02:08] <rdb_> "10.31.20.3 sendto error Host BLAH-BLAH and server.domain.tld are both using ip 10.31.20.3"
[29-Oct-2007 13:02:19] <rdb_> What is that error telling me?
[29-Oct-2007 13:02:30] <rdb_> I don't even know where Zenoss is getting "server.domain.tld" - I haven't input it anywhere.
[29-Oct-2007 13:36:31] <Robbadub> Pablo rpm -Uvh zenpackage.rpm
[29-Oct-2007 13:37:19] <Robbadub> The must be another ip10.31.20.3 host in the network
[29-Oct-2007 13:37:32] <Robbadub> This could be a rogue laptop or something
[29-Oct-2007 13:57:26] <mf2ng> rdb_: check /etc/hosts
[29-Oct-2007 13:57:51] <mf2ng> so, there's no1 here hwo could help with mib thingies?
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[29-Oct-2007 14:40:24] <pablo26> how do i upggrade from 2.0.4 to 2.1?
[29-Oct-2007 14:44:51] <jds2001> does anyone know how the software tab is populated for a linux device?
[29-Oct-2007 14:44:59] <jds2001> under the /Servers/Linux default class?
[29-Oct-2007 14:45:39] <jds2001> mine doesn't appear to be populating at all. I've verified that the data is accessible, but I'm not sure how to tell where it's accessing the data at.
[29-Oct-2007 14:46:20] <jds2001> i.e. what OID
[29-Oct-2007 14:47:29] <mf2ng> hmm, iirc i saw some thread in the web about that
[29-Oct-2007 14:53:32] <mf2ng> sorry, seem's that i can't find it anymore
[29-Oct-2007 16:34:48] <eurowerke> anyone know of a way to monitor an FTP server, e.g. to make a connection test to it?
[29-Oct-2007 16:35:53] <Robbadub> what do you mean
[29-Oct-2007 16:37:42] <Robbadub> You could log to the syslogserver
[29-Oct-2007 16:38:03] <jds2001> oh, if anyone is concerned about the software installation question that i had - the answer is that you have to add the collector plugin zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalled to the device class :-)
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[29-Oct-2007 16:38:45] <jds2001> then re-model and everything is splendid :-)
[29-Oct-2007 16:40:47] <eurowerke> Robbadub: I mean to somehow monitor an FTP connection
[29-Oct-2007 16:40:53] <eurowerke> I mean... I see check_tcp
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:04] <Robbadub> What kind of ftp server?
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:27] <eurowerke> but do you think the fact that I can connect to port 21 would guarantee that the connection will work to download?
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:29] <eurowerke> ProFTPD
[29-Oct-2007 16:41:42] <Robbadub> Does it have a way to log to syslog?
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:02] <eurowerke> dunno... perhaps
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:09] <eurowerke> I haven't set up any linux monitoring yet
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:10] <Robbadub> make it syslog to the zenoss server
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:15] <eurowerke> oh I see
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:35] <eurowerke> I figured you mean log to syslog then import syslog to zenoss
[29-Oct-2007 16:42:39] <eurowerke> meant*
[29-Oct-2007 16:45:47] <eurowerke> also, is there a way to set a default sorting for the Device List?
[29-Oct-2007 16:47:21] <Robbadub> Click on the headers to sort. Be carefull with the sort string in the eventmanager-fields section.
[29-Oct-2007 16:47:49] <Robbadub> error make your MySQL queries invalid and can render your interface unusable
[29-Oct-2007 16:50:34] <pablo26> how do i upggrade from 2.0.4 to 2.1?
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:06] <Robbadub> rpm -Uvh zenoss.packagename.rpm
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:31] <pablo26> mmm i have debian
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:47] <Robbadub> DEbian has a package manager too
[29-Oct-2007 16:52:58] <Robbadub> yum?
[29-Oct-2007 16:53:10] <pablo26> but there is no package for debian, i had to install from source
[29-Oct-2007 16:56:44] <mf2ng> it's possible to install rpm's in debian
[29-Oct-2007 16:59:30] <mf2ng> or you can convert rpm's to deb
[29-Oct-2007 16:59:38] <jlar> pablo: http://www.howtoforge.com/converting_rpm_to_deb_with_alien
[29-Oct-2007 16:59:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Converting .rpm Packages To Debian/Ubuntu .deb Format With Alien | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials (at www.howtoforge.com)
[29-Oct-2007 17:01:14] <pablo26> i'll try that
[29-Oct-2007 17:01:42] <pablo26> i need to use a feature that is not working on the version i have
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[29-Oct-2007 17:08:21] <jlar> pablo: here's a link to some information on upgrading from source
[29-Oct-2007 17:08:24] <jlar> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3630&highlight=upgrade
[29-Oct-2007 17:08:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to update from 2.0.6 to 2.1.0 (at community.zenoss.com)
[29-Oct-2007 17:09:37] <jlar> I didn't have the troubles that the poster is listing there, but your mileage may vary
[29-Oct-2007 17:10:39] <jlar> ostensibly, you should be able to shutdown all zenoss processes, extract the latest source, and run install.sh
[29-Oct-2007 17:10:55] <pablo26> i'm trying that in a moment i'll know if it worked for me
[29-Oct-2007 17:11:03] <jlar> good luck!
[29-Oct-2007 17:11:14] <pablo26> u dont even need to stop zenoss, it will stop it automatically
[29-Oct-2007 17:12:11] <pablo26> i need to use the httmonitor zenpack and in 2.0.4 version gives warnings everytime
[29-Oct-2007 17:14:02] <jlar> i've read that that can be a problem.... haven't dabbled with it yet though
[29-Oct-2007 17:32:15] <pablo26> jlar it worked perfectly for me
[29-Oct-2007 17:33:29] <jlar> fantastic. did the new version solve your httpmonitor issue?
[29-Oct-2007 17:37:48] <pablo26> no
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:03] <pablo26> i get this event as warning: chown root:zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:04] <pablo26> chmod 04750 /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:11] <pablo26> oh, not that
[29-Oct-2007 17:38:19] <pablo26> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 89786 bytes in 2.619 seconds
[29-Oct-2007 17:43:14] <jlar> :-( afraid i'm no help there... that's next week's task for me
[29-Oct-2007 17:44:38] <pablo26> the command is working ok, but i dont know why i get it as a warning, the nagios message sends the status to stderr
[29-Oct-2007 17:49:13] <jlar> perhaps that's the setting for the type of event? e.g. when i set up a threshold for my filesystem template i can choose whether an event is info, warning, etc
[29-Oct-2007 17:49:43] <jlar> maybe you have to set it so that "OK" isn't an event... but i'm just speculating
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[29-Oct-2007 18:02:13] <pablo26> zenping is dying and there is no info in the log, any idea what it can be?
[29-Oct-2007 18:03:47] <jlar> have you looked in the zenhub log?
[29-Oct-2007 18:11:12] <pablo26> nothing there, i've started manually and i dont see any errors, but its not starting
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[29-Oct-2007 18:16:25] <pablo26> this was the reason why it was dying Products.ZenUtils.IpUtil.IpAddressError: sodev2.intelligenx.local is an invalid address
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[29-Oct-2007 18:43:52] <pablo26> i've upgradefrom 2.0.4to 2.1 and now all the thresholds that i have disabled are working and i cant disable or delete them (they are deleted from the template but i still get the events)
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:37] <eurowerke> i noticed in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices there's still directories there from the devices I have added once but that now are not present or are named differently
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:43] <eurowerke> is there a way to flush out the old directories?
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:47] <eurowerke> without screwing anything up
[29-Oct-2007 18:53:47] <eurowerke> ?
[29-Oct-2007 18:54:02] <eurowerke> hehe I was about to delete them manually but then figured I'd check to see if that would cause any 'issues'
[29-Oct-2007 19:00:37] <davetoo> eurowerke: in my experience, zenoss will recreate anything that's missing if it needs to.
[29-Oct-2007 19:03:44] <eurowerke> hmmm
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:10] <eurowerke> in my experience, zenoss will farkup if I do something non-standard
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:13] <eurowerke> heheh
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:13] <davetoo> In that perf directory, that is.
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:37] <eurowerke> i'll give it a shot tho
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:48] <eurowerke> it seems most of the dirs are empty
[29-Oct-2007 19:04:51] <eurowerke> no .rrd files
[29-Oct-2007 19:05:00] <eurowerke> so hopefully won't cause any problems
[29-Oct-2007 19:07:34] <eurowerke> hey do you know where the zProperties page html is?
[29-Oct-2007 19:07:43] <eurowerke> do I edit that through zope or through a file?
[29-Oct-2007 19:08:00] <eurowerke> want to fix a typo
[29-Oct-2007 19:08:16] <eurowerke> then file bug report
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[29-Oct-2007 19:40:39] <JonathanD> hi
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[29-Oct-2007 21:14:59] <guyverix> can anyone on here perhaps assist with a TALES issue that I have been having trouble with?
[29-Oct-2007 21:21:45] <guyverix> would it help if I begged??
[29-Oct-2007 21:23:08] <Bulwinkle> I'd help if I even knew what the hell TALES is
[29-Oct-2007 21:23:17] <guyverix> grin
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[29-Oct-2007 23:30:40] <eurowerke> TALES is an expression of TAL, used by Zope
[29-Oct-2007 23:31:00] <eurowerke> http://wiki.zope.org/ZPT/TALESSpecification13
[29-Oct-2007 23:31:10] <adytum-bot> Title: TALES Specification 1.3 (at wiki.zope.org)
[29-Oct-2007 23:32:26] <eurowerke> I surprised myself with the bot-likeness of that response :-P
[29-Oct-2007 23:32:32] <guyverix> grin
[29-Oct-2007 23:42:00] <guyverix> now the intersting part will be to use what they are saying at zope.org and apply it to the interfaces in Zenoss
[29-Oct-2007 23:42:36] <guyverix> anyone got any spare Rogaine?? I think I am going to loose the last of my hair on this one! grin
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[30-Oct-2007 08:45:01] <Robbadub> GEntlemen and gentlegirls
[30-Oct-2007 08:45:25] <Robbadub> Can anybody tell me how to change the interface speed of a bonded interface in Zenoss
[30-Oct-2007 08:45:37] <Robbadub> I'm under the impression this could be altered in 2.1
[30-Oct-2007 08:48:28] <Robbadub> I have a 2 Gig bonded interface telling me it's 10 Mbit
[30-Oct-2007 08:48:46] <passie_> change the default ethercmd to ethercmd 64 ?
[30-Oct-2007 08:48:57] <Robbadub> ?
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:12] <Robbadub> Please elaborate....
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:33] <passie_> the default template = ethernetCsmacd
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:47] <passie_> this is a 32 bit counter and 2 gig doens't fit in that
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:52] <Robbadub> ah
[30-Oct-2007 08:49:55] <passie_> change it to ethernetCsmacd_64
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:31] <passie_> <-- not a expert so dont shoot the messenger
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:41] <Robbadub> lol
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:49] <Robbadub> Thanks for your trouble
[30-Oct-2007 08:50:53] <passie_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 08:51:48] <passie_> my company is still trying to get anwsers as well, and it looks like we are not continuing with zenoss
[30-Oct-2007 08:54:22] <Robbadub> That is too bad
[30-Oct-2007 08:54:26] <passie_> jup
[30-Oct-2007 08:55:01] <passie_> i just can't find any good monitoring sollutions which can cover everything from graphs to monitoring to internal check commands
[30-Oct-2007 08:56:02] passie__ is now known as passie
[30-Oct-2007 08:56:47] <Robbadub> Well Zenoss is still fresh
[30-Oct-2007 08:56:55] <Robbadub> Give them some time
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:07] <Robbadub> It's still a hell of a lot bettah than most other solutions
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:21] <passie> yes, i think that's the problem, i'll do but my target says to have a good sollution ready by the end of the year
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:35] <Robbadub> Bu sometimes I wish it would just be mush simpler
[30-Oct-2007 08:57:52] <Robbadub> Modeler think it should use this template. I tell it to use another
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:01] <passie> i could be , but must programs are build be a programmer perspective and not a user
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:02] <Robbadub> No questions asked
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:24] <Robbadub> Oh well that's the most ancient of dilemma's
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:38] <Robbadub> If you want it perfect you have to make it yourself
[30-Oct-2007 08:58:56] <passie> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 08:59:12] <Robbadub> But, as I found out the hard way, it's not easy to be omnipotent and omnipresent at the same time
[30-Oct-2007 08:59:33] <Robbadub> So i'll stick to being omnipotent for the time being ;-)
[30-Oct-2007 09:02:36] <passie> no that's true, i'll quote you for my manager
[30-Oct-2007 09:03:13] <Robbadub> That's ok. I'm witnessing it as we chat
[30-Oct-2007 09:03:14] <Robbadub> ;-)
[30-Oct-2007 09:52:24] <Robbadub> Anybody have a clue why Python takes up 100% of CPU once in a while
[30-Oct-2007 13:29:14] <Robbadub> Python does 100% cpu when I click to a page with a google map
[30-Oct-2007 13:32:50] <Robbadub> It does this for about 3 minutes and then responds with the page
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[30-Oct-2007 14:15:01] <Robbadub> With this error in the log: 2007-10-30T14:55:46 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x2c, class Products.ZenUtils.PObjectCache.PObjectCache) at /zport/RenderServer/render (135 conflicts, of which 0 were unresolved, since startup at Fri Oct 26 13:14:54 2007)
[30-Oct-2007 14:22:11] <Robbadub> Obviously there is a conflict in teh content of the Zope database
[30-Oct-2007 14:22:47] <Robbadub> This will hang the ZopeCTL process for a couple of minutes after which it returns to normal operation
[30-Oct-2007 14:23:06] <Robbadub> Does anyone have a clue as to what could be hte problem in the content.
[30-Oct-2007 14:50:10] <Robbadub> Hello earth
[30-Oct-2007 16:13:08] <eurowerke> that's the problem in this chan, whenever you *REALLY* want an answer to something, it's a bad hour... or something like that hehe
[30-Oct-2007 16:20:52] <Robbadub> lol
[30-Oct-2007 16:28:07] <MoreDakka_> Did they take out check_http in zenoss 2.x?
[30-Oct-2007 16:41:04] <eurowerke> nope still there in my install
[30-Oct-2007 16:41:16] <eurowerke> in libexec/
[30-Oct-2007 16:41:32] <eurowerke> or maybe it's there because I installed HttpMonitor...
[30-Oct-2007 16:42:01] <eurowerke> but when I create a Data Source, it lists HttpMonitor and check_http as types available
[30-Oct-2007 17:48:20] <eurowerke> anyone know how to fix 'unknown' port speed issues?
[30-Oct-2007 17:48:31] <eurowerke> seems they're all 'unknown' in propVirtual interfaces
[30-Oct-2007 17:48:35] <eurowerke> they used to work I know
[30-Oct-2007 17:59:37] <MoreDakka_> Anyone running 2.0.6?
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[30-Oct-2007 18:33:36] Eric___ is now known as Meldawn
[30-Oct-2007 19:03:20] <jsm> so i migrated my zenoss installation to another system, and from what i can tell it is working.. one problem -- the dashboard is showing "Zenoss Issues" with the device name of the old zenoss box.. anyway to clear these up?
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[30-Oct-2007 19:43:04] <tmcnicho> Hello, can anyone point me to a guide on updating the virtual appliance from 2.06 to 2.1?
[30-Oct-2007 19:47:42] <MoreDakka_> Anyone install 2.0.0 and get a "Loading..." with a loading icon at the top middle of some pages plus an error " 'Dialog.Box' is null or not an object' ".... :-/
[30-Oct-2007 19:50:14] <tmcnicho> nevermind, i think i got it
[30-Oct-2007 19:52:10] <tmcnicho> my, that was disgustingly simple
[30-Oct-2007 19:53:10] <MoreDakka_> that's usually the way it is with zenoss....unless you find a bug...then it's not simple.
[30-Oct-2007 19:53:25] <darkhorse> heh
[30-Oct-2007 19:53:46] <darkhorse> i *think* i may have found a bug but i am still exploring it
[30-Oct-2007 19:54:53] <MoreDakka_> I just wish I could get my data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1.... :-/
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:12] <tmcnicho> Well, i assumed i needed to stop zenoss, and then simply issue conary update zenoss
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:14] <tmcnicho> is that really it?
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:43] <darkhorse> has anyone else experienced this: when say a router goes down that has many devices behind it, the supression works where it does not report the devices as being down, however, i still get alarms for every monitored service, just not the pinging...
[30-Oct-2007 19:55:51] <MoreDakka_> for updating v2.0.x -> 2.1 it should be that easy
[30-Oct-2007 19:56:53] <tmcnicho> It seems okay, but the dashboard seems pretty fubar. Going to clear my browser cache
[30-Oct-2007 19:57:58] <tmcnicho> Yeah, that seems to clear things up.
[30-Oct-2007 19:58:24] <MoreDakka_> omg...I can't believe I didn't think of clearing the cache..... <bangs head on table>.....GAH
[30-Oct-2007 19:58:30] <darkhorse> haha
[30-Oct-2007 19:58:46] <MoreDakka_> cleared up my issues to....lets see if data import works.
[30-Oct-2007 19:59:00] <tmcnicho> whoa now, don't hurt the table
[30-Oct-2007 20:01:03] <MoreDakka_> Thanks....I see you're looking out for my wellbeing.
[30-Oct-2007 20:01:59] <tmcnicho> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 20:02:14] <tmcnicho> Now if only my Google Maps would work, i put the API key in.
[30-Oct-2007 20:03:52] <MoreDakka_> what's it doing?
[30-Oct-2007 20:04:03] <tmcnicho> the portlet comes up to a zenoss error screen
[30-Oct-2007 20:04:17] <MoreDakka_> Hm, haven't seen that one yet.
[30-Oct-2007 20:08:59] <tmcnicho> Yeah, the traceback shows a whole slew of errors, not quite sure where to start. I regenerated the API key thinking maybe I had an extra space in it, but that didn't work
[30-Oct-2007 20:09:17] <tmcnicho> maybe there is a dependency not resolved?
[30-Oct-2007 20:09:40] <pablo26> hi all
[30-Oct-2007 20:10:31] <pablo26> anyone has httpmonitor zenpack working?
[30-Oct-2007 20:10:55] <tmcnicho> I tried to add it earlier, it appeared to be already installed on my 2.06VM
[30-Oct-2007 20:11:03] <tmcnicho> i have not attempted to configure it yet
[30-Oct-2007 20:11:48] <pablo26> i've configured but i get warnings all the time
[30-Oct-2007 20:12:10] <pablo26> with messages like this " HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 88092 bytes in 2.032 seconds"
[30-Oct-2007 20:14:30] <tmcnicho> are you sure they are warnings, and not info notices?
[30-Oct-2007 20:16:31] <pablo26> yes, they are in yellow
[30-Oct-2007 20:17:22] <pablo26> but it seems like noone is using that zenpack
[30-Oct-2007 20:19:40] <tmcnicho> maybe someone more familiar will chime in, honestly i don't know what to expect out of that zenpack
[30-Oct-2007 20:24:42] <pablo26> i cant replace my nagios monitoring because of that
[30-Oct-2007 20:26:03] <tmcnicho> its probably something easy
[30-Oct-2007 20:26:05] <MoreDakka_> pablo26: in earlier versions I setup a custom rule to use the nagios plugin of check_http. Works like a charm but that isn't in 2.1 now so I'm not sure what I'm going to do., I'll figure something out I guess.
[30-Oct-2007 20:27:30] <pablo26> in fack this zenpack uses the nagios plugin
[30-Oct-2007 20:29:21] <pablo26> no one is using it
[30-Oct-2007 20:30:47] <tmcnicho> should the geocache entry in my configuration be empty?
[30-Oct-2007 20:31:03] <MoreDakka_> To start with I think it is.
[30-Oct-2007 20:31:14] <MoreDakka_> then you enter a location and then it'll populate that.
[30-Oct-2007 20:31:16] <MoreDakka_> I think.
[30-Oct-2007 20:34:02] <tmcnicho> Right. but I can't even get to the maps tab in a location
[30-Oct-2007 20:34:24] <tmcnicho> i see one user posted a manual mysql-python update is necessary to go to 2.1, so i'm running that
[30-Oct-2007 20:41:41] <tmcnicho> im trying to apply this "google maps" patch
[30-Oct-2007 20:41:46] <tmcnicho> but the "patch" command isn't found
[30-Oct-2007 20:42:01] <pablo26> when i updated to 2.1i screwed everything up
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:13] <tmcnicho> everything?
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:17] <tmcnicho> sounds like just the httpmonitor
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:36] <MoreDakka_> bah.
[30-Oct-2007 20:45:39] <MoreDakka_> grrrrr.
[30-Oct-2007 20:46:01] <tmcnicho> still no luck?
[30-Oct-2007 20:46:19] <MoreDakka_> Well the clearing the cache fied one issue but I don't get my drop down menu in the top left of any of the windows that would have a drop down...
[30-Oct-2007 20:46:35] <MoreDakka_> So I can't do anything to the devices...unless that wasn't in v2.0.6
[30-Oct-2007 20:47:13] <MoreDakka_> It musta been since I don't have a manage tab and I can't run any commands on them since I'm missing that drop down.
[30-Oct-2007 20:47:58] <pablo26> when i upated all the thresholds that i had disabled in the templates appeared as enabled, and i couldnet disabled, even by deleting the threshold i will continue to send notifications
[30-Oct-2007 21:19:18] <MoreDakka_> anyone have any idea of my new situation? http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3712
[30-Oct-2007 21:19:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - migrating data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1...doesn't like me. (at community.zenoss.com)
[30-Oct-2007 21:20:46] <tmcnicho> my 2.1 upgrade is now utilizing 100%
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:00] <MoreDakka_> ouch.
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:32] <tmcnicho> i applied that google maps patch manually, didn't seem to make a difference
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:49] <davetoo> My solution: don't ever start the map
[30-Oct-2007 21:21:56] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:05] <MoreDakka_> that's such a fun feature in 2.1 though
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:36] <tmcnicho> so a reboot should clear it, as long as i don't try and look at a map?
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:41] <davetoo> I don't know
[30-Oct-2007 21:22:55] <davetoo> I don't monitor across wans so I haven't tried it.
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:10] <tmcnicho> bout to find out
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:12] <MoreDakka_> heh, it's fun to just throw devices in random locations.
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:15] <tmcnicho> i took it off my dashboard already
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:17] <davetoo> I just haven't had any CPU problems so was making an assumption.
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:30] <MoreDakka_> Wish I could get back to 2.1...with all my data
[30-Oct-2007 21:23:56] <davetoo> My plan is to tar up my current install,
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:02] <davetoo> dump a list of devices,
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:13] <davetoo> install 2.1 fresh, use zenbatchload,
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:19] <davetoo> and copy over my rrd files.
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:26] <davetoo> (in a nutshell)
[30-Oct-2007 21:24:45] <eurowerke> anyone here have any experience with high end video projection equipment?
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:03] <MoreDakka_> medium to low end...
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:21] <MoreDakka_> possibly even bottom-of-the-barrel end
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:27] <davetoo> I'm writing scripts to make the variable settings and organizers I use, and to dump the list of devices in a format that zenbatchload can use
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:48] <eurowerke> Christie DS+16k?
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:57] <eurowerke> err no DS+8k
[30-Oct-2007 21:25:58] <davetoo> I'm doing this partly to leave behind some mistakes I made earlier
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:05] <eurowerke> and Roadster 16k
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:17] <tmcnicho> sweet, all my daemons are dieing :|
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:21] <eurowerke> w00t
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:24] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:51] <pablo26> Viewsonic Office Theater 1060p is that high end?
[30-Oct-2007 21:26:55] <eurowerke> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:07] <MoreDakka_> 1060p?
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:09] <eurowerke> how do you all pronounce 'daemons'? more like 'DAY-muns' or 'DEE-muns'?
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:16] <tmcnicho> "day-muns"
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:18] <MoreDakka_> DAY i would think
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:39] <MoreDakka_> "POSOMGFRICKINGAAAHHH-muns"
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:40] <eurowerke> well, 1080p, yeah MoreDakka
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:42] <tmcnicho> actually i suppose i pronounce it more like day-mins
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:50] <eurowerke> yea
[30-Oct-2007 21:27:53] <eurowerke> me too usually
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:00] <MoreDakka_> 1080p...key, makes more sense ;-)
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:04] <eurowerke> lol
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:14] <pablo26> thats the model not the resolution
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:29] <eurowerke> ohh More, I thought you were talking to me
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:33] <eurowerke> ^_^
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:34] <MoreDakka_> What was the company thinking when they made the model 1060p....
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:42] <eurowerke> but yeah, the projectors I mentioned are 1080p
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:42] <pablo26> i had a very beatiful remote controll with an embedeed mouse, but someone lost it
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:43] <tmcnicho> yeah my virtual machine is using all 1.5GB of ram right now :|
[30-Oct-2007 21:28:59] <eurowerke> tmcnicho: how are you managing the time drift on that?
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:05] <eurowerke> my ubuntu server has like 30min per day
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:15] <MoreDakka_> euro....I didn't even know those were model #s.
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:16] <MoreDakka_> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:20] <eurowerke> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 21:29:30] <tmcnicho> what do you mean?
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:05] <eurowerke> virtual linux servers have a problem with time drift
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:13] <eurowerke> not sure about all
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:18] <tmcnicho> haven't really addressed it at all
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:21] <eurowerke> but debian based and others do
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:25] <davetoo> Don't they have ntpd?
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:25] <eurowerke> check what time your server says it is
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:34] <davetoo> Is there too much drift for ntpd?
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:39] <eurowerke> yeah, but if there is no correction implemented, ntpd actually can't keep up
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:53] <eurowerke> I am using a builtin kernel param that helps a LOT
[30-Oct-2007 21:30:58] <tmcnicho> look at that, its 8 minutes behind
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:02] <eurowerke> I thought ntpd was running, but prob not
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:10] <eurowerke> that's not bad tmc
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:25] <eurowerke> mine is 15 min behind right now
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:32] <eurowerke> as root
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:33] <eurowerke> run
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:33] <tmcnicho> still doesn't help my 100% proc utilization
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:34] <tmcnicho> :|
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:39] <eurowerke> hwclock --hctosys
[30-Oct-2007 21:31:52] <eurowerke> then check tomorrow, see how much drift you get
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:15] <tmcnicho> when i run hwclock, its dead on
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:32] <eurowerke> yeah, cause it reads the hardware (BIOS) clock
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:38] <tmcnicho> gotcha
[30-Oct-2007 21:32:53] <eurowerke> so when you run that command, it sets the system (software) clock to the hardware clock
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:02] <eurowerke> you can also do it in reverse, which I accidentally did once ^_^
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:14] <eurowerke> so I had to manually set it again he
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:15] <eurowerke> h
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:16] <eurowerke> heh
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:46] <eurowerke> just running `hwclock` reads out current bios clock
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:52] <tmcnicho> whoa, that network map feature, is DAMN cool
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:53] <tmcnicho> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 21:33:59] <eurowerke> heh
[30-Oct-2007 21:34:14] <tmcnicho> let me do it for our entire wan, see if it crashes
[30-Oct-2007 21:34:35] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:34:49] <tmcnicho> we only have 200 subnets, im sure it won't puke at all
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:07] <pablo26> is any way to edit the network map?
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:47] <tmcnicho> I don't know if you can directly edit, it appears to build it off the configuration of your networking interfaces
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:51] <eurowerke> yeah
[30-Oct-2007 21:35:58] <eurowerke> I don't think there's a way to work it
[30-Oct-2007 21:36:02] <eurowerke> I found it a little buggy still
[30-Oct-2007 21:36:06] <tmcnicho> i let it discover all my routers and switches so it drew it fairly accurately
[30-Oct-2007 21:38:44] <slagathor> hey...I am having a problem with adding devices
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:04] <slagathor> When I add a device, The deviceloader comes back with a blank screen
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:27] <slagathor> Just to verify connectivity, I tried snmpwalking the device from the server cmdline
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:33] <slagathor> everything came back ok
[30-Oct-2007 21:39:39] <slagathor> anyone else experience this?
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:08] <eurowerke> make sure your communities are specified right
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:10] <tmcnicho> i did, i can't remember what i did to fix it
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:20] <eurowerke> are you using public?
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:28] <eurowerke> or something else?
[30-Oct-2007 21:40:49] <slagathor> well...it depends on the device
[30-Oct-2007 21:41:05] <slagathor> but the communities I used i specified on both the cmd and the gui
[30-Oct-2007 21:41:14] <eurowerke> make sure all the communities you will be using are in the zSnmpCommunities list in zProperties area under /Devices
[30-Oct-2007 21:41:42] <slagathor> ok...they are
[30-Oct-2007 21:43:05] <slagathor> See that is what is so odd...I thought at first it was an ID 10T error on my part, but for the life of me I can't get the GUi to model the device
[30-Oct-2007 21:43:45] <slagathor> And the logs are not very helpful either
[30-Oct-2007 21:45:01] <tmcnicho> I had the same problem, I swear... I think it was something easy too
[30-Oct-2007 21:45:58] <slagathor> This is a recover from the server being powered down hard, is there a pid file that has to be cleared or a hung query somewhere?
[30-Oct-2007 21:46:43] <tmcnicho> Heh, someone at Apple has a sense of humor. Anyone see the article about OSX10.5 where the "pc" icon has a blue screen of death on it?
[30-Oct-2007 21:48:52] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 21:48:53] <MoreDakka_> nice
[30-Oct-2007 21:51:28] <tmcnicho> so should my "geocache" string be empty?
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:06] <eurowerke> if zenoss starts up fine with no errors, I'd assume that the pid files aren't an issue
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:16] <eurowerke> omg EVERYONE is calling ME today
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:23] <MoreDakka_> I haven't called yet...
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:25] <eurowerke> not the general helpdesk number
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:26] <eurowerke> d0h
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:35] <slagathor> that's kind of what I thought
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:43] <eurowerke> go ahead Dakk, 818.832.3400 :-P
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:45] <eurowerke> ahaha
[30-Oct-2007 21:59:51] <MoreDakka_> hold on.
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:06] <MoreDakka_> omg wtf....Porn #.....
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:11] <eurowerke> oh geezs
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:12] <MoreDakka_> heheh
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:13] <eurowerke> ^_^
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:16] <eurowerke> this is a church!
[30-Oct-2007 22:00:16] <eurowerke> haha
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:04] <MoreDakka_> what mib would I user to snmpwalk to get everything that device can give me?
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:23] <eurowerke> lol I wonder that too Dakk, I'm actually trying to figure the exact same thing out
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:24] <pablo26> see u tomorrow, bye
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:26] <eurowerke> with this projector
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:32] <MoreDakka_> ah.
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:45] <eurowerke> all the while setting up a new laptop on the domain and installing software/updates/more software
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:52] <progma> MoreDakka_: start with the hardware manufacturer
[30-Oct-2007 22:01:54] <eurowerke> and running to help people on hdesk calls
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:05] <eurowerke> I can't find any MIBs for my proj from the mfr
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:08] <eurowerke> so I called them
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:09] <progma> MoreDakka_: alsoo search for ipmonitor - their website at solarwinds has a detailed list of mibs
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:16] <eurowerke> not much help there either
[30-Oct-2007 22:02:43] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying snmpwalk -v1 -c<community> <ip> .1 that seems to have given me a list of stuff but what it is...>??
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:08] <eurowerke> just run without any oid
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:14] <eurowerke> -c community IP
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:21] <eurowerke> that dumps a bunch of junk
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:24] <slagathor> hey, how much gets jacked up if the hostname of a server is changed?
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:26] <MoreDakka_> yeah I tried that, trying to get oids for a redline radio,.
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:30] <eurowerke> at least in my experience
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:38] <eurowerke> slag, I had a lot of trouble
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:46] <eurowerke> err n/m
[30-Oct-2007 22:05:52] <eurowerke> i changed DNS name not hostname
[30-Oct-2007 22:06:00] <eurowerke> i changed the DNS to match the hostname
[30-Oct-2007 22:06:06] <eurowerke> and it screwed a bunch o fstuff up heh
[30-Oct-2007 22:06:14] <MoreDakka_> I feel sorry for the guy who has joejoe@hotmail.com
[30-Oct-2007 22:07:40] <eurowerke> hehe
[30-Oct-2007 22:07:43] <eurowerke> i use example.com
[30-Oct-2007 22:07:48] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 22:08:02] <eurowerke> since that's a valid domain but restricted for example use :-P
[30-Oct-2007 22:08:14] <eurowerke> i wonder how much mail that place gets hehe
[30-Oct-2007 22:08:50] <eurowerke> there's probabaly no smtp server, how much smtp traffic :-P
[30-Oct-2007 22:10:49] <MoreDakka_> poor poor example.com users. Imagine bob@example.com.
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:01] <MoreDakka_> Maybe they have a barracuda spam filter...if they are lucky
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:10] <eurowerke> more like
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:12] <slagathor> would be an interesting address to have though
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:14] <eurowerke> asdf@example.com
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:18] <MoreDakka_> haha
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:38] <eurowerke> it's a reserved domain not available for registration
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:45] <MoreDakka_> If that was my email address I would me like "OOoo...another free trial"
[30-Oct-2007 22:11:59] <eurowerke> owned by... whatever int'l internet org it is
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:19] <eurowerke> or US internet org, anyway
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:34] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:38] <MoreDakka_> Hahaha...
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:45] <MoreDakka_> awesome, just crashed the ipmonitor8.5
[30-Oct-2007 22:12:51] <MoreDakka_> sweet piece of software.
[30-Oct-2007 22:18:19] <slagathor> ok, is there an easy way to dump the config, remove the installation, reinstall, and reimport the configs?
[30-Oct-2007 23:37:58] <FelipeBare> Can Zenoss work with oracle database ?
[30-Oct-2007 23:38:34] <monrad> as backend?
[30-Oct-2007 23:38:43] <FelipeBare> monrad, yes
[30-Oct-2007 23:39:02] <monrad> no and zenoss only uses mysql to store events
[30-Oct-2007 23:39:11] <monrad> it uses an zope db to store everything else
[30-Oct-2007 23:39:53] <FelipeBare> what about monitoring oracle databases, disk ratio, user commits, etc?
[30-Oct-2007 23:41:26] <monrad> not directly, but it can use nagios plugins and i think there are a nagios plugin that does that
[30-Oct-2007 23:42:15] <monrad> but i am not there yet, we are kinda trying to get away from oracle so i am not really putting an efford into it
[30-Oct-2007 23:42:35] <FelipeBare> monrad, neither the Enterprise zenoss products ?
[30-Oct-2007 23:43:50] <FelipeBare> excuse me to ask these thinks, but our company is looking for a network/device monitoring tool
[30-Oct-2007 23:44:34] <monrad> no problem, i dont know about the enterprise product. But i guess they will listen if you throw money at them
[30-Oct-2007 23:45:08] <monrad> we mostly use it as an network monitoring tool
[30-Oct-2007 23:45:39] <monrad> but we are not ready to pay for the enterprise product when you have to pay per unit and we got an 2000 of them
[30-Oct-2007 23:46:49] <FelipeBare>
it's hard![30-Oct-2007 23:47:12] <FelipeBare> I need something to monitor my services you know ?
[30-Oct-2007 23:47:46] <FelipeBare> hardware utilization per service (like oracle database), and so on..
[30-Oct-2007 23:49:33] <monrad> its also need a lot of ram and fast storage to monitor that many units
[30-Oct-2007 23:51:40] <monrad> just a sec need to fix my bed
[30-Oct-2007 23:51:49] <FelipeBare> ok:)
[30-Oct-2007 23:58:15] <monrad> and brush my teeth and stuff
[30-Oct-2007 23:58:52] <monrad> it can show how much ram and cpu each monitored process uses at least on linux
[30-Oct-2007 23:59:58] <FelipeBare> unfortunately i'll need to monitor lots of win2k3 machines
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[31-Oct-2007 00:01:43] <monrad> i dont know anything about monitoring windows machinces with zenoss, thats an other department
[31-Oct-2007 00:02:47] <FelipeBare>
[31-Oct-2007 00:02:53] <FelipeBare> monrad, where you from ?
[31-Oct-2007 00:03:54] <monrad> Denmark
[31-Oct-2007 00:04:03] <monrad> or you mean where i work?
[31-Oct-2007 00:05:59] <FelipeBare> where you work
[31-Oct-2007 00:08:13] <monrad> at ComX an smallish ISP
[31-Oct-2007 00:09:09] <FelipeBare> ok
[31-Oct-2007 00:18:57] <FelipeBare> 10pm here... i'm going, see you...
[31-Oct-2007 00:39:35] * eurowerke guesses so
[31-Oct-2007 00:39:40] <eurowerke> ^_^
[31-Oct-2007 04:25:37] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - trac Stats Gathering with Storm - 29 Oct, 11:06PM
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[31-Oct-2007 08:18:27] <Robbadub> 1: how do I make a report (containing <tal> layout tags) into a plugin? (ReportLoader.py yields an error "Traceback (most recent call last): File "ZenReports/Reportloader.py", line 7, in ? import transaction Import Error: No module named transaction ")
[31-Oct-2007 08:18:34] <Robbadub> 2: how do I copy or add a report to the Zope interface (without import/export function)
[31-Oct-2007 08:18:42] <Robbadub> 3: how do I add a report to the Zope interface using the import/export function?
[31-Oct-2007 13:11:41] <pablo26> hi all
[31-Oct-2007 13:12:12] <pablo26> i cant disable thresholds in zenoss 2.1, i'm the only one having that issue?
[31-Oct-2007 14:00:22] PerlSta11er is now known as PerlStalker
[31-Oct-2007 14:04:27] <pablo26> how can i correct the network map, i have a router in the office with vpn tunnels to all the other networks
[31-Oct-2007 14:04:59] <pablo26> i added an ipRoute entry destination 192.168.13.0/24 next hop 192.168.13.1
[31-Oct-2007 14:05:12] <pablo26> but it does not seem to work
[31-Oct-2007 14:20:13] <Robbadub> I have the smae with the VPN's on my juniper cluster
[31-Oct-2007 14:20:46] <Robbadub> I suspect that since VPN's are virtual interfaces you will have to create these virtual interfaces on the device
[31-Oct-2007 14:23:28] <Robbadub> But this will only work for route-based VPN's not policy based VPN's
[31-Oct-2007 15:21:10] <MoreDakka_> Can there be a limited user added that will only see a specific system and only one system (or a group)? Shouldn't be able to see anything from any other system (including events, locations, groups...etc..etc). Can Zenoss do that?
[31-Oct-2007 15:26:31] <Robbadub> no
[31-Oct-2007 15:26:47] <MoreDakka_> bah.....
[31-Oct-2007 15:27:08] <MoreDakka_> do you know if it's going to be a feature upgrade?
[31-Oct-2007 15:27:18] <Robbadub> User can be limited to see a variety of details about systems and actions
[31-Oct-2007 15:32:35] <pablo26> i've created a group, an alerting rule for that group, now if i add a user to that group, he will be using that alerting rule?
[31-Oct-2007 15:41:22] <Robbadub> Dunno RTFM?
[31-Oct-2007 15:41:46] <Robbadub> And have you configured the alerting mechanisms smtp and snpp
[31-Oct-2007 15:41:52] <Robbadub> ?
[31-Oct-2007 15:51:43] <pablo26> i did it that whay and its not working
[31-Oct-2007 15:51:57] <pablo26> yes, te test email works
[31-Oct-2007 15:59:20] <thefish> hi *, can someone help me with adding an event for devices please? Im following http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-monitor-a-software-raid-device/ to monitor an md device. Ive added an exec called md_check to the devices snmpd.conf, and can get the results from snmpwalk -On -v 2c -c public device 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8
[31-Oct-2007 15:59:35] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - How to Monitor a Software RAID device - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Oct-2007 16:00:06] <thefish> so it returns 0 if everything is ok, and the results of `cat /proc/mdstat` on fail
[31-Oct-2007 16:00:22] <thefish> now i want to trigger an alert on <>0
[31-Oct-2007 16:00:44] <thefish> the author of the howto added something under the perfconf section, but i cant find this
[31-Oct-2007 16:10:15] <pablo26> to do that thefish u have to create a template, in the template a datasource type snmp with the oid u have created there and then a threshold with that datasource
[31-Oct-2007 16:10:40] <thefish> ok cool, then apply the template to all machines that want it?
[31-Oct-2007 16:12:39] <pablo26> if all of them are on the same class and u create a template on that class thats enought
[31-Oct-2007 16:15:33] <thefish> they are all on just the Device/Linux template, but there are some in that template with no md, so Ive made a MDRaid template now
[31-Oct-2007 16:15:49] <thefish> added the data source, but it doesnt see it in the threshold
[31-Oct-2007 16:16:25] <thefish> i add threshold, but "data points" is empty - should the collector i added be there?
[31-Oct-2007 16:24:04] <thefish> mm cant seem to get it happening, ive edited the exec script so that it will always send a fail, but there is nothing triggered in zenoss
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:05] <kgoedtel> and you are sure the oid exists and is returning an integer?
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:53] <thefish> kgoedtel, on success, it returns:
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.1 = STRING: md_check
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.1 = STRING: /etc/snmp/check_md.sh
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 = INTEGER: 0
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:54] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1 = STRING:
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:56] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.1 = INTEGER: 0
[31-Oct-2007 16:25:58] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.1 = STRING:
[31-Oct-2007 16:26:19] <thefish> from command `snmpwalk -On -v 2c -c public thedevice 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8`
[31-Oct-2007 16:26:46] <thefish> on fail, the contents of /proc/mdstat are sent
[31-Oct-2007 16:26:51] <kgoedtel> well i read that on the doc page, wasnt sure if you actually validated that
[31-Oct-2007 16:27:02] <thefish> ye thats from my machine here
[31-Oct-2007 16:27:17] <thefish> i think i have messed up adding the collector/template somehow
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:06] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 is always an integer though
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:23] <thefish> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1 returns the mdstat contents
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:44] <kgoedtel> did you create the template locally to a device or in a device template?
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:53] <thefish> checking.
[31-Oct-2007 16:28:56] <kgoedtel> err device class
[31-Oct-2007 16:29:29] <thefish> ok so i went DEVICES > MENU > MORE > ALL TEMPLATES
[31-Oct-2007 16:29:58] <thefish> then in the secondary menu (ALL PERFORMANCE TEMPLATES) I chose ADD TEMPLATE
[31-Oct-2007 16:30:13] <thefish> called it MDRaid
[31-Oct-2007 16:30:42] <thefish> then added the data source, called mdstat, OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 enabled=true
[31-Oct-2007 16:30:51] <kgoedtel> did you verify that your device is in fact binding said template?
[31-Oct-2007 16:31:14] <thefish> i think so, i then went to the device, templates, bind templates
[31-Oct-2007 16:31:46] <thefish> and chose Devices/Server and MDRaid
[31-Oct-2007 16:31:57] <thefish> they both show in the templates for the device
[31-Oct-2007 16:32:00] <kgoedtel> hmm
[31-Oct-2007 16:32:33] <thefish> oh, ok now it shows an event!
[31-Oct-2007 16:32:46] <thefish> i promise it didnt before! im not drinking!
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:17] <thefish> heh, thank you for the help kgoedtel - im very new with zenoss, so getting confused!
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:28] <thefish> pablo26, thank you for your help too
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:33] <kgoedtel> hey, i think everybody is a bit confused
[31-Oct-2007 16:33:50] <kgoedtel> lack of docs :]
[31-Oct-2007 16:34:11] <thefish> mmm, as with lots of oss projects! at least not as bad as nagios though...
[31-Oct-2007 16:35:14] <thefish> is there a way to move this template now, so it can be under devices/servers/linux/
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:01] <thefish> oooh
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:20] <thefish> can i bind this new template i made to say server/linux, and have it inherit?
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:28] <kgoedtel> you can copy it while viewing the device class templates
[31-Oct-2007 16:36:37] <kgoedtel> you can
[31-Oct-2007 16:37:00] <thefish> cool
[31-Oct-2007 16:40:19] <thefish> sorry for the noise, but one more thing
[31-Oct-2007 16:40:51] <thefish> this managed to fire an event when the exec returned <>0, but is there a performance counter somewhere for this?
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:17] <thefish> id like to be able to see historic data on it, or even just see in an overview that it is OK
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:35] <kgoedtel> well
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:49] <kgoedtel> you can either graph it.. kind of pointless for binary data
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:56] <thefish> true
[31-Oct-2007 16:41:58] <kgoedtel> otherwise, i would just use history
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:10] <thefish> ok cool
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:14] <kgoedtel> event history will show all the recorded failures or whatever
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:22] <thefish> ah ok
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:25] <thefish> cool, thanks
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:27] <kgoedtel> even if the event doesnt persist
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:31] <thefish> how could i graph it though?
[31-Oct-2007 16:42:52] <kgoedtel> you would have to create a graph in your template that uses the said data point
[31-Oct-2007 16:43:02] <thefish> im thinking maybe for a temperature sensor, now i know how to get the data into zenoss, my brain is working a bit
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:10] <thefish> wow thats easy
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:11] <kgoedtel> i recommend viewing the default templates and learning from those
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:37] <thefish> i just added a graph for the binary mdstat, but i can imagine that the temp would be similar
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:47] <thefish> thank you lots for the help kgoedtel
[31-Oct-2007 16:44:55] <kgoedtel> also, if you are interested in beautifying your graphs you will want to read the documentation on the rrdgraph site
[31-Oct-2007 16:45:17] <pablo26> has anyone used the HttpMonitor zenpack?
[31-Oct-2007 16:45:28] <thefish> cool, will have a look at that
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[31-Oct-2007 17:08:13] <tmcnicho> you there moredakka?
[31-Oct-2007 17:08:20] <MoreDakka_> sometimes.
[31-Oct-2007 17:08:24] <MoreDakka_> what's up?
[31-Oct-2007 17:08:32] <tmcnicho> i get that same error on settings\menus on a clean install of 2.1 on CentOS5
[31-Oct-2007 17:09:22] <MoreDakka_> Well we are both up the creek without a paddle huh? ;-) I've tried v2.0.0, 2.0.6 and 2.1.0 with the imported data
[31-Oct-2007 17:09:32] <MoreDakka_> I can get v2.1 going no problem on a clean install.
[31-Oct-2007 17:10:13] <tmcnicho> my 2.06 VM was running clean i should have left well enough alone, its dead in the water right now
[31-Oct-2007 17:10:19] <tmcnicho> the zopectl process crashes
[31-Oct-2007 17:12:15] <MoreDakka_> Oh, you're also running VM....mine is a direct install on a CentOS machine.
[31-Oct-2007 17:12:27] <MoreDakka_> Did you backup your 2.0.6?
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:08] <tmcnicho> nah, its really a test environment i usually just pull the trigger
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:16] <tmcnicho> if it was in production, that would be a diff story
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:29] <MoreDakka_> haha
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:39] <tmcnicho> whats the default linux zenoss user's password?
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:40] <MoreDakka_> Yep. that's why I haven't touched our production server (v1.1.1).
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:46] <MoreDakka_> nothing
[31-Oct-2007 17:13:55] <MoreDakka_> that I know of...I've always had to set it.
[31-Oct-2007 17:19:10] <tmcnicho> I'll reinstall and see how it goes. The brain is tired of this stuff
[31-Oct-2007 17:20:53] <tmcnicho> i just have to kill the directories in /home and /opt to do a complete reinstall right?
[31-Oct-2007 17:22:08] <MoreDakka_> and the dbase too
[31-Oct-2007 17:22:14] <MoreDakka_> events dbase
[31-Oct-2007 17:22:25] <tmcnicho> sure, i'll drop that in phpmyadmin
[31-Oct-2007 17:25:59] <tmcnicho> im hoping i'll get another reply to my threat, would really prefer not to start over on my VM
[31-Oct-2007 17:26:04] <tmcnicho> thread, that is
[31-Oct-2007 17:26:20] <tmcnicho> then i'd have to expand the virtual disk again... sigh...
[31-Oct-2007 17:28:45] <tmcnicho> reinstall worked, i have menus now
[31-Oct-2007 17:34:30] <MoreDakka_> Well that makes one of us.
[31-Oct-2007 17:35:55] <tmcnicho> the first time i didn't delete the zopeDB
[31-Oct-2007 17:36:05] <tmcnicho> so obviously its something stored in there
[31-Oct-2007 17:38:12] <MoreDakka_> I think I'm becoming a master of reinstalling zenoss
[31-Oct-2007 17:38:13] <tmcnicho> seems a lot more responsive off a dedicated box, no surprise there i guess
[31-Oct-2007 17:45:00] <pablo26> where can i download the manual for 2.1? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/ is not working
[31-Oct-2007 17:45:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Documentation - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Oct-2007 17:45:33] <pablo26> oh now its working again
[31-Oct-2007 17:57:46] <tmcnicho> is there an easy way to export my devices?
[31-Oct-2007 18:00:24] <tmcnicho> well, probably not if its zope itself that won't start
[31-Oct-2007 18:12:51] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Oct-2007 18:33:56] <pablo26> anyone is using groups of users? i've created one and the allerting rules i assign to that group are not been applied to the users of that group
[31-Oct-2007 18:40:07] PerlStalker is now known as PS-afk
[31-Oct-2007 19:09:14] <tmcnicho> i get the feeling that functionality isn't there yet pable
[31-Oct-2007 19:09:16] <tmcnicho> pablo
[31-Oct-2007 19:09:37] <MoreDakka_> Or it's in enterprise.
[31-Oct-2007 19:10:16] <pablo26> oh
[31-Oct-2007 19:12:03] <tmcnicho> to be honest if i can't get it to work in core i'm gonna have a tough time selling my boss on the idea of paying for support :|
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:20] <tessier_> root 3543 3521 0 Sep02 ? 00:00:07 /usr/bin/python /opt/zenoss/bin/zeopack.py -p 8100
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:34] <MoreDakka_> I think you can get a demo of enterprise to see if it is in there.
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:39] <tessier_> Why do I have a couple months worth of weekly zeopack processes hanging around on my server?
[31-Oct-2007 19:15:46] <pablo26> if i dont get httpmonitor to work i'll have to put nagios back
[31-Oct-2007 19:27:05] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[31-Oct-2007 19:28:01] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Oct-2007 19:36:08] <tessier_> I don't understand how zenoss monitors services. I created an IP service called ssh. I don't see where I can configure what host to monitor ssh on. Does it monitor port 22 everywhere on all hosts? It also says 0 instances. But I have ssh running on dozens of hosts here.
[31-Oct-2007 19:36:11] <tessier_> I must be missing something...
[31-Oct-2007 19:40:09] <tessier_> And for "expect regex" can I just put in a string that should match somewhere in a line I get or do I have to match exactly? Like will "OpenSSH" suffice or do I have to say ".*OpenSSH.*" ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:40:16] <tessier_> minus the quotes of course
[31-Oct-2007 19:41:49] <tmcnicho> there probably already was an IP service called SSH
[31-Oct-2007 19:42:13] <tmcnicho> go to the host you want to monitor, on the IP services table click the dropdown and click add service
[31-Oct-2007 19:42:21] <tmcnicho> and start to type ssh and see if it finishes it for you
[31-Oct-2007 19:42:38] <MoreDakka_> Wish I had a drop down menu
[31-Oct-2007 19:46:30] <tmcnicho> well, hold on, i think it changed in 2.1
[31-Oct-2007 19:46:37] <tessier_> tmcnicho: You mean go to the device I want to monitor? Like /Devices/Server/Linux/home.copilotco.com ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:46:53] <tessier_> I don't see an IP services table there
[31-Oct-2007 19:47:16] <tmcnicho> i could swear it was in the OS tab of the device
[31-Oct-2007 19:47:42] <tessier_> Oh, in the OS tab...ok
[31-Oct-2007 19:48:26] <tmcnicho> you have to enable monitoring for the service, and then apply that service to the devices you want to monitor it for
[31-Oct-2007 19:48:30] <tmcnicho> but i can't get it to show up
[31-Oct-2007 19:49:12] <tmcnicho> ssh is already in there, under ip services / privileged
[31-Oct-2007 19:50:16] <FelipeBare> does zenoss have an agent ? Or it only gets info from snmp ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:51:26] <tmcnicho> primarily SNMP, for windows boxes, it will pull eventlog information thru WMI
[31-Oct-2007 19:51:38] <tmcnicho> but for the most part, its all over SNMP
[31-Oct-2007 19:52:08] <FelipeBare> tmcnicho, Thanks.
[31-Oct-2007 19:52:58] <FelipeBare> tmcnicho, the same for linux services like logs etc ?
[31-Oct-2007 19:53:39] <tmcnicho> i believe it can do more for linux through scripts and such
[31-Oct-2007 19:54:05] <FelipeBare> ok
[31-Oct-2007 19:54:17] <tmcnicho> i haven't looked at the linux monitoring side yet, honestly
[31-Oct-2007 19:54:33] <tmcnicho> i explodified my virtual machine this morning
[31-Oct-2007 19:55:32] <tessier_> Ok, I think I'm starting to get this...
[31-Oct-2007 19:55:49] <tessier_> zenoss is much easier than nagios once you get the hang of it...
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:18] <JonathanD> my zenoss install got all quirky yesterday
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:23] <tmcnicho> Yeah, I found the learning curve to be a little high, once i got the concept i got moving pretty quickly
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:24] <JonathanD> but I haven't yet explored why
[31-Oct-2007 19:56:56] <tmcnicho> my only two big hurdles have been expanding the disk of the virtual machine, and now my botched upgrade today
[31-Oct-2007 19:57:09] <tmcnicho> silly me should have made a copy of my virtual disk before doing anything
[31-Oct-2007 19:57:24] <tmcnicho> thats what i get for being a cowboy
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:19] <JonathanD> oh, that could be it
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:22] <JonathanD> mysql was stopped
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:32] <tmcnicho> that'll do it every time
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:42] <tmcnicho> make sure you edit your runlevel to include it
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:43] <JonathanD> a more verbose error state might be nice though
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:53] <JonathanD> instead of just silently failing and displaying nothing
[31-Oct-2007 19:58:58] <tmcnicho> yeah, i love this nice cryptic error messages
[31-Oct-2007 19:59:20] <tmcnicho> they could at least humor us with a "he's dead jim"
[31-Oct-2007 20:02:56] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[31-Oct-2007 20:20:31] <tessier_> hmm...I click "add device" on the left, type in the IP of the device, choose the path where I want it, leave the discovery protocol set to snmp...then click "Add device". Then I go to /DeviceLoader and see an Add Device table with nothing in it.
[31-Oct-2007 20:20:44] <tessier_> And the device does not appear in the device list under /Servers/Linux where I put it.
[31-Oct-2007 20:21:06] <tessier_> I could swear I was able to add devices a couple months ago when I last messed with this...
[31-Oct-2007 21:27:42] <tessier_> grrr...I can't add any new devices and I have no idea why
[31-Oct-2007 21:41:52] <tessier_> util01 zenping heartbeat failure
[31-Oct-2007 21:41:54] <tessier_> hmmm
[31-Oct-2007 21:48:58] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[31-Oct-2007 21:54:53] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Oct-2007 21:55:38] <tessier_> I wonder if this is all related to my snmpd having problems...
[31-Oct-2007 22:54:47] <tessier_> Crap. I just did a discover on a network with a ton of machines and it didn't find a thing...wtf?
[31-Oct-2007 22:54:52] PerlStalker is now known as PS-afk
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