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[01-Jul-2008 06:17:05] <exkev> anyone alive who understands the snmp trap decoding?
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:00] <exkev> I've got OSPF-TRAP-MIB imported, it's declared various oid mappings, including ospfTraps 1.3.6.1.2.1.14.16.2 as 'node'
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:26] <exkev> all traps are below that node's oid, e.g. 1.3.6.1.2.1.14.16.2.10, and those are defined in the traps section
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:39] <exkev> (ie zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs/OSPF-TRAP-MIB)
[01-Jul-2008 06:19:30] <exkev> all traps get trnslated as 'ospfTraps', the node in the oid mapping, instead of the 'notification' defined
[01-Jul-2008 06:20:04] <exkev> so ospfTxRetransmit, ospfNbrStateChange etc all turn into "ospfTraps" and get de-duped together
[01-Jul-2008 06:20:51] <exkev> wtf
[01-Jul-2008 06:23:25] <exkev> deleting the 'node' results in untranslated events, just showing the oid
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:23] <exkev> however, bgpBackwardTransition (1.3.6.1.2.1.15.7.2) maps fine and keeps its name
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:35] <exkev> there is a parent 'node' at 1.3.6.1.2.1.15.7 named 'bgpTraps'
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:52] <exkev> same thing, but not broken
[01-Jul-2008 06:36:07] <exkev> testing w/ dmd.Mibs.oid2name() produces interesting results
[01-Jul-2008 06:36:15] <exkev> this mib is somehow broken
[01-Jul-2008 06:38:14] <MrTux> exkev: i'm using the ospf mib delivered as standard mib by juniper (rel9.1), and that works
[01-Jul-2008 06:40:32] <exkev> this is cisco smi v1. I'm purging all my mibs now and tryin to start fresh
[01-Jul-2008 06:41:28] <exkev> uuugh, but this box is eating itself alive again
[01-Jul-2008 07:18:04] <exkev> mrtux, what is the mib file you used?
[01-Jul-2008 07:19:07] <exkev> I grabbed another one (an SMIv2, not from cisco) but still oid2name fails
[01-Jul-2008 07:20:59] <MrTux> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos91/juniper-mibs-9.1R1.8.tgz i've imported all of them
[01-Jul-2008 07:23:17] <exkev> I imported all my mibs, 670 of em. bad idea.
[01-Jul-2008 07:26:44] <exkev> thx, that mib imports much betta
[01-Jul-2008 07:27:33] <MrTux> jeah, its juniper, that usually works really well
[01-Jul-2008 07:27:58] <exkev> I used to run M stuff, I miss it
[01-Jul-2008 07:28:12] <exkev> I have a sticker on my laptop, "I (heart) JUNOS"
[01-Jul-2008 07:29:03] <Shurick> you said junos, admins close to me unpacking 65xx
[01-Jul-2008 07:30:44] <exkev> 65xx still stomps jnpr for $/port
[01-Jul-2008 07:31:00] <Shurick> yep
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:45] <exkev> I've been using 6503+sup32 as border routers (no need for full table)
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:50] <exkev> $9k plus psus
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:53] <exkev> can't touch it
[01-Jul-2008 07:33:47] <MrTux> we've upgrade to the new mx-series, they're quit cool
[01-Jul-2008 07:33:59] <MrTux> but we have a lot of fulltables here
[01-Jul-2008 07:34:33] <Shurick> full table (we're about bgp v4, right) cost a lot now
[01-Jul-2008 07:34:40] <exkev> nlayer wrangled with a lot of bugs in mx, but seems to be happy w/ em now
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:27] <exkev> I'm 95% inbound, "inverse content" as it were
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:30] <exkev> we suck from eyeballs
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:54] <exkev> default + customer = happy for my measly 400 meg of outbound
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:17] <exkev> (or maybe it's not 400, since inbound is about 4G)
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:51] <Shurick> you're hangry then
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:59] <MrTux> Shurick: well, not really for personal use i've jseries (about2k) with 4 fullfeeds
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:08] <exkev> if only pricks like me would stop deagging in PA space
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:23] <exkev> full tables would be less
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:33] <exkev> but what choice am I left with, ARIN allocation policy is stupid
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:49] <Shurick> mine is RIPE
[01-Jul-2008 07:38:16] <exkev> we have a site in ripe, will seek small alloc once ramped up
[01-Jul-2008 07:38:36] <Shurick> they allocated a lot of /2[34] - sounds not well
[01-Jul-2008 07:39:02] <exkev> I really only need a few IPs, but engineering inbound balance is near impossible w/o massive community-twiddling kung fu or /24 per port
[01-Jul-2008 07:39:56] <Shurick> if you eat traffic
[01-Jul-2008 07:40:42] <Shurick> if you generate it - it seems more easily to balance it
[01-Jul-2008 07:40:46] <exkev> fo sho
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:06] <exkev> my last gig was 1:1 ISP w/ colo and hosting and ftth and such
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:13] <exkev> that wasn't so hard to balance
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:42] <exkev> also when eyeballs eat bits, it's widely distributed
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:05] <exkev> when I eat eyeballs' bits, those networks are more massive and few
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:13] <exkev> one wrong knob and bits hit the floor
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:26] <Shurick> bwa-ha-ha
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:58] <Shurick> 'there will be one network that tights 'em all'
[01-Jul-2008 07:43:10] <exkev> 40Gbps more and I can justify a global peering network
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:11] <Shurick> 40 gbps it almost useless now, if you're content provider
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:26] <exkev> well, and I need to peer with eyeballs or no point
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:32] <exkev> that's a lot harder
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:37] <exkev> <- backups
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:41] <Shurick> even 100gbps are too slow
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:55] <Shurick> due to backups too
[01-Jul-2008 07:46:30] <exkev> GMT-7 here, sleep calls
[01-Jul-2008 07:46:37] * exkev &
[01-Jul-2008 07:47:07] <Shurick> GMt+3 here, no sleeps
[01-Jul-2008 07:48:56] <AllanHouston> Hi - having some wierd problems with specific Cisco syslog events failing to show in the event view - can anyone help me ?
[01-Jul-2008 10:33:14] <foudfou> hi, I loaded Dell MIBs correctly (with dependencies solved), but stil, events are mapped as '/Unknown'
[01-Jul-2008 10:33:14] <foudfou> is there something more I must do ?
[01-Jul-2008 10:49:07] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "ISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 10:55:45] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MSSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 10:55:50] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:17] <SniZ|work> this not helps^ 1) Bring down zenoss ZENHOME/bin/zenoss stop
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:21] <SniZ|work> 2) Remove all the ZENHOME/var/*.zec files (these are cache files)
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:21] <SniZ|work> 3) Bring up zenoss ZENHOME/bin/zenoss start
[01-Jul-2008 12:08:27] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:20] <SniZ|work> why when i add new device, zenoss dont create rrd file. what i must do?
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:33] <SniZ|work> but if i zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit it work fine
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:44] <SniZ|work> and create it....
[01-Jul-2008 12:13:06] <SniZ|work> but i must do it for update graphs
[01-Jul-2008 12:15:40] <nemo_> as root or zenoss ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:16:46] <SniZ|work> zenoss
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:04] <SniZ|work> zenoss@monitoring:~$ ls /usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> 192.168.33.11 router.parfum-ultra.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> brest.brest-parfum.local router_vit
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> dial-in.parfum-ultra.local server1.vit-parfum.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> it-prn.parfum-ultra.local server.parfum-ultra.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:18:45] <SniZ|work> nemo_, btw, when i add new device - zenoss generate graphs with string - "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:12] <SniZ|work> /usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/router_vit:
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> total 40
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 755 2008-07-01 20:07 localhost-config.pickle
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 35296 2008-07-01 20:07 sysUpTime_sysUpTime.rrd
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:16] <SniZ|work> i donno why...
[01-Jul-2008 12:25:49] <SniZ|work> or i must add "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d ${device/id}" to zenoss commands?
[01-Jul-2008 12:28:24] <nemo_> i would delete the device and try again, unless you have data to keep ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:28:45] <SniZ|work> but i doesnt wanna delete added devices....
[01-Jul-2008 12:29:54] <nemo_> try deleting the pickle file and re-modelling
[01-Jul-2008 12:30:10] <nemo_> if it doesnt regen, zeo restart
[01-Jul-2008 12:30:51] <SniZ|work> why i need do this? why snmp daemon doesn wrong?
[01-Jul-2008 12:32:53] <SniZ|work> why zenoss cant work good from fresh install?
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:08] <nemo_> i am not zenoss, i dont know
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:17] <nemo_> read logs , docs etc !
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:28] <SniZ|work>
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:38] <nemo_> you think i should do it for ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:48] <nemo_> maybe you misunderstand open source ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:10] <nemo_> i tried to help you point you in a direction, but you should find your own way
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:52] <SniZ|work> heh, i think i forgot somethining do...
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:59] <SniZ|work> but i doo all from manual!
[01-Jul-2008 12:37:50] <SniZ|work> nemo_, i think, all i do rigth. but zenoss doesnt do graphs
[01-Jul-2008 12:38:12] <SniZ|work> only show, if i manually "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit"
[01-Jul-2008 12:45:27] <SniZ|work> can somebody gimme man how to monitor devices?
[01-Jul-2008 12:47:24] <TBKdan> Whoooaaaa very bad...
[01-Jul-2008 12:47:33] <TBKdan> New VM app update kills networking on the app
[01-Jul-2008 12:48:07] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, you can help me?
[01-Jul-2008 12:49:32] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: The one time that I have had "Missing RRD Files" was when the SNMP device I was querying did not return the MIBs that Zenoss was expecting.
[01-Jul-2008 12:49:45] <TBKdan> Dunno if that's what you were looking for
[01-Jul-2008 12:50:31] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, if i run "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit" from zenoss user - it collect data and put in to rrd files, which i can see in zenoss
[01-Jul-2008 12:50:49] <SniZ|work> but zenoss doesnt automaticly collect data
[01-Jul-2008 12:52:03] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: Check the templates for that device to make sure it's trying to collect that data.. I'm not that familiar with Zenoss, but I'm getting there
[01-Jul-2008 12:55:30] <cgibbons> how long are you waiting before you see if data is collecting, sniz?
[01-Jul-2008 12:56:55] <SniZ|work> cgibbons, 30-60 Ѽшт
[01-Jul-2008 12:56:56] <SniZ|work> min
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:07] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, i use integrated templates
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:15] <SniZ|work> stanart instakllation
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:42] <SniZ|work> command like "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit" - work pretty! and put all in db
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:45] <SniZ|work> *rrd
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:05] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: Is the zenperfsnmp daemon running? (Settings->Daemons)
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:27] <SniZ|work> yes! it work!
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:43] <SniZ|work> #PARAMETER VALUE
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:46] <SniZ|work> monitor localhost
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:47] <SniZ|work> this is config
[01-Jul-2008 13:08:17] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: It's working or the daemon is running? *confused*
[01-Jul-2008 13:09:16] <SniZ|work> laemon running!
[01-Jul-2008 13:14:38] <SniZ|work> daemon ^)
[01-Jul-2008 13:16:33] <realmelancon> Anybody on the channel ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:17:01] <SniZ|work> no
[01-Jul-2008 13:17:52] <realmelancon> Hi SniZ
[01-Jul-2008 13:18:07] <realmelancon> are you familiar with ZenOss 2.2 ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:03] <SniZ|work> i need help to...
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:14] <TBKdan> MS + 2k3 + AD = me going insane... -_-*
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:40] <realmelancon> oups... sorry about that
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:49] <TBKdan> Might as well watch a monkey screw a football...
[01-Jul-2008 13:20:14] <realmelancon> Im a Unix admin. cant help with AD stuff.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:00] <realmelancon> i've spent all day yesterday, trying to get zenoss to get the Event logs from a Windows box.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:07] <TBKdan> I think it's just a bug with AD. When you enable a setting via AD, it greys it out locally to prevent changes. When you disable that setting, it keeps it greyed out.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:30] <TBKdan> realmelancon: How are you trying to get it to retrieve them? WMI?
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:43] <realmelancon> yeah. WMI.
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:02] <TBKdan> Are you getting WMI errors for that machine?
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:49] <SniZ|work> why zenping, zensyslog, zentrap doesnt start?
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:59] <realmelancon> I tried using wmic tool. but it doesnt work. authentication works fine. but i cant get any values.
[01-Jul-2008 13:23:34] <TBKdan> Is this on a 2k3 sp1+ box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:23:37] <realmelancon> when i try from another windows box (using wbemtest ?) it works. i can run any WMI query.
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:12] <realmelancon> TBKdan: I think its 2k3 sp2. i will have to validate though. does it make a difference ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:42] <realmelancon> or does 2k3 sp2 even exists ? (sorry im a unix guy)
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:45] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Is the WMI user a local/domain admin on the box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:48] <TBKdan> Yes, that's what I have too.
[01-Jul-2008 13:25:18] <realmelancon> TBKdan. No its not a local user. It uses an AD account.
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:02] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Is that AD account a domain admin, or is it a local admin on the box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:28] <TBKdan> Or neither
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:37] <realmelancon> TBKdan: Its a domain admin.
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:42] <TBKdan> ok
[01-Jul-2008 13:27:01] <TBKdan> What command are you using that doesn't give you any results? (minus user/pw)
[01-Jul-2008 13:27:53] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Hold on. Let me check.
[01-Jul-2008 13:29:51] <TBKdan> omfg. Resetting the entire security db didn't even do the trick... *bangs head*
[01-Jul-2008 13:30:00] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Unfortunately. I have to VPN in our corp. network, but I will loose the IRC channel.
[01-Jul-2008 13:30:31] <TBKdan> I'll be here..
[01-Jul-2008 13:33:23] <realmelancon> TBKDan: but command was something like: cd $ZENHOME/bin; ./wmic -U domain/user //machine "select * from Win32_NTLogEvent"
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:31] <TBKdan> Wait
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:41] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Let me login. And I will rejoin the IRC channel in a couple pf minutes with more info.
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:43] <TBKdan> Are there any strange characters in the pass?
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:50] <TBKdan> ", %, $, etc
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:18] <realmelancon> TBKDan: No only numeric, lower and uppercase chars.
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:21] <TBKdan> k
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:43] <TBKdan> I just ran that command on my machine and it worked fine...
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:13] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:17] <realmelancon> cool. is there anything I could trace on the Windows box ? any security settings regarding WMI ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:35] <MoreDakka> Freakin' hell...AC has been off in the office all weekend...29.5 C in here gahh..sooo hot.
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:08] <TBKdan> realmelancon: You can enable verbose logging for the WMI stuff or just check the logs as is
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:14] <TBKdan> C:\Windows\System32\wbem\Logs
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:42] <TBKdan> I would clear the logs out, then run the command to see if it gives you anything
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:50] <realmelancon> TBKdan: Thanks for the tip. I will look at it.
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:54] <TBKdan> Np
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:04] <TBKdan> I just had a hell of a time fighting with it, so I know the feeling
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:30] <realmelancon> TBKdan: and you use Zenoss 2.2 ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:46] <cgibbons> WMI improvements are a high priority for 2.3 so xfingers there
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:42] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Yeah, although the VM app.
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:48] <TBKdan> It's up to 2.2.2 there.
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:56] <TBKdan> Latest update clobbered network though
[01-Jul-2008 13:40:06] <realmelancon> Is there any differences between Zenoss Core (vs) Enterprise redarding WMI stuff ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:40:45] <TBKdan> I think enterprise has a bit more functionality out of the box, but it should still work in core (it does for me)
[01-Jul-2008 13:41:36] <TBKdan> I can't say for sure though
[01-Jul-2008 13:41:52] <realmelancon> TBKdan: ok thanks. just wanted to confirm.
[01-Jul-2008 14:28:57] TBKdan is now known as TBKDan-away
[01-Jul-2008 14:32:03] <duncan> hey guys, I've installed the zenplugin.py on my server and added the zencommand.linux.* plugins, configured the zencommand username and password and verified that account can run zenplugin.py... but it doesn't want to use it to collect
[01-Jul-2008 14:32:39] <duncan> if I run zenmodeler from the command line I get this: INFO:zen.ZenModeler:no cmd plugins found for cwlms-host51.remotelabs.com
[01-Jul-2008 14:34:33] <duncan> is there documentation on using zenplugin.py anywhere? I can't find anything except how to install it on the target host
[01-Jul-2008 14:55:55] <duncan> nevermind, I believe I found what I needed in the admin guide ;D
[01-Jul-2008 16:14:56] folke is now known as afk_away
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:25] <locohost> is this the best explination of the warning colors?
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> blue - warn
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> green - good
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> grey - no data
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> orange - severe
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> purple - minor
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:28] <locohost> red - critical
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:29] <locohost> yellow - major
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> or in order....
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> grey - no data
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> green - good
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> blue - warn
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> purple - minor
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> yellow - major
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:27] <locohost> orange - severe
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:28] <locohost> red - critical
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:36] <locohost> that sound right to you folks?
[01-Jul-2008 16:34:54] <magnachef> yes
[01-Jul-2008 16:39:55] <locohost> THANKS!
[01-Jul-2008 16:59:30] TBKdan1 is now known as TBKDan
[01-Jul-2008 17:41:15] <TBKDan> So, anybody aware of the latest VM app killing networking? I realize that it deletes the vmware-tools in favor of open-vm-tools, but I don't see any evidence that it actually installed
[01-Jul-2008 17:51:53] <ccesario> Hey, I downloaded one file and I see in Grpah interface ....
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:16] <ccesario> and I see 2MB of outbound and 500kbps inbound
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:27] <magnachef> am I able to use percentage thresholds with Min/Max Threshold?
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:38] <ccesario> and I think the correct is 2MB inbound and 500kbps outbound...
[01-Jul-2008 17:53:44] <Mosburn_mobile> has anyone managed to get full Tru64 monitoring in zenoss?
[01-Jul-2008 17:54:34] <magnachef> not I
[01-Jul-2008 17:54:35] <MoreDakka> ccesario - Make sure you are looking at the proper interface to justdge that graph (example switch port 1 has 1.5/640 ADSL, that port will show 1.5in and 640out. port 2 has a computer on it. that port will show 1.5 out and 640 in, make sense?)
[01-Jul-2008 17:56:12] <ccesario> MoreDakka, yes I'm lokink the interface with adsl port
[01-Jul-2008 17:57:50] <ccesario> and I see ... 2MB outbound and 500Kb inbound O_o
[01-Jul-2008 17:58:46] <locohost> ccesario, is this a router or a fw?
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:19] <locohost> ahh, well, it sounds like there is an inside interface and an ouside interface
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:27] <locohost> they will be mirrors of each other.
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:39] <ccesario> FW/ROUTER connected in ADSL Modem
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:56] <locohost> the outside interface will have 2mb inbound, while on the inside interface, that same 2mb will be outbound
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:02] <locohost> like what moredakka said
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:24] <ccesario> yes.... ETH1 (WAN) 2Mb outbound... and ETH0(lan) 2Mb inbound
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:39] <ccesario> but this is correct ?
[01-Jul-2008 18:02:32] <locohost> Traffic going OUT of your computer will go IN to the eth0 then OUT eth1
[01-Jul-2008 18:03:30] <locohost> when is say eth0 and 1 in that sentence, i only mean the router, i didnt label the if on your pc
[01-Jul-2008 18:04:08] <locohost> sooo, the direction of the traffic is kinda relative...that make sence?
[01-Jul-2008 18:05:03] <ccesario> hmmmm
[01-Jul-2008 18:05:05] <ccesario> yes locohost
[01-Jul-2008 18:06:32] <ccesario> make sence .... eheheh
[01-Jul-2008 20:03:27] <cgibbons> hmmm
[01-Jul-2008 20:43:32] <duncan> Help! I'm having problems getting disk io graphed in Zenoss... I have installed the zenplugin.py on the server to be monitored, added the ssh username/password in the zProperties for the node, and modified the collector plugins.. but nothing is being collected, and my performance template is setup for snmp.
[01-Jul-2008 20:44:29] <duncan> I have remodeled the device but it says: no cmd plugins found
[01-Jul-2008 21:09:29] <Larve_Q> hi
[01-Jul-2008 21:16:42] <Larve_Q> anybody 2.2.0 problems with windows event/service?
[01-Jul-2008 21:17:07] <Larve_Q> Miss the startmode, en failures aren't detected
[01-Jul-2008 21:17:18] <Larve_Q> worked fine earlier verion...
[01-Jul-2008 22:06:15] <Larve_Q> anybody?
[01-Jul-2008 22:27:31] <locohost> can you get the disk io info in an snmpwalk?
[01-Jul-2008 22:33:26] <Larve_Q> yep, i think so...go to settings -> commands and copy/edit snmpwalk as you like
[01-Jul-2008 22:35:01] <duncan> Help! I'm having problems getting disk io graphed in Zenoss... I have installed the zenplugin.py on the server to be monitored, added the ssh username/password in the zProperties for the node, and modified the collector plugins.. but nothing is being collected, and my performance template is setup for snmp.
[01-Jul-2008 22:35:02] <duncan> I have remodeled the device but it says: no cmd plugins found
[01-Jul-2008 22:36:24] <neil__> ssh is for running remote commands
[01-Jul-2008 22:37:43] <neil__> i havent looked into it, but it sounds wrong the perf template is set to use snmp
[01-Jul-2008 22:38:29] <duncan> so I need to make a new template that has command datasources?
[01-Jul-2008 22:39:28] <neil__> really not too sure, i do everything snmp, dont want to use ssh
[01-Jul-2008 22:44:49] <duncan> unfortunately net-snmp doesn't support disk io unless I recompile it from source.. which is a pain
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:13] <neil__> i didnt notice
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:18] <neil__> but thats for the tip
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:32] <neil__> cant you just rebuild the src rpms with a script / add it to you repo ?
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:58] <neil__> i am guessing thats what i will have to do
[01-Jul-2008 22:46:21] <neil__> for me its security
[01-Jul-2008 22:46:38] <neil__> people complain about me snmp connecting
[01-Jul-2008 22:52:02] <locohost> nah, you can get disk io info from the udc mibs
[01-Jul-2008 22:52:32] <locohost> you might be thinking of DISMAN-EVEN
[01-Jul-2008 22:54:39] <locohost> T
[01-Jul-2008 23:01:07] <locohost> niel, duncan, what does ` snmpwalk -v1 localhost -c public .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.15.1.1`
[01-Jul-2008 23:01:16] <locohost> yield on this box?
[01-Jul-2008 23:13:19] <duncan> http://pastebin.com/m72146bfb
[01-Jul-2008 23:17:18] <locohost> ewwww, thats ugly
[01-Jul-2008 23:18:00] <locohost> what if you do 1.3?
[01-Jul-2008 23:19:13] <locohost> it should look like t his
[01-Jul-2008 23:19:13] <locohost> http://pastebin.com/m4267dcb2
[01-Jul-2008 23:26:28] <neil__> [root@black ~]# snmpwalk -v1 localhost -c public .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.15.1.1
[01-Jul-2008 23:26:28] <neil__> End of MIB
[01-Jul-2008 23:37:20] <locohost> well, you might have better luck in #net-snmp, your not having a zenoss issue, your having a net-snmp issue
[01-Jul-2008 23:37:40] <locohost> love to stay and help, but i got to get going. been working too long
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[02-Jul-2008 13:23:42] <Guest18337> When will zenoss maintain layer 2 map and discovery?
[02-Jul-2008 13:58:55] <EekZ`> zenoss rocks!
[02-Jul-2008 14:04:09] <TBKdan> Well that was interesting..
[02-Jul-2008 14:07:23] <nemo_> at least he didnt sit repasting in his question that is on the first page of the admin guide ;p
[02-Jul-2008 14:15:18] <TBKdan> True
[02-Jul-2008 14:17:52] <TBKdan> Playing around with network statistics, and it doesn't appear to like the ethernetCsmacd template that came with Zenoss (it was crashing until I took off the threshold, now it's saying oids are bad). Are there any other net performance templates out there?
[02-Jul-2008 14:30:46] <Comradin> moin, moin
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:02] <nemo_> TBKdan, if you read the bug list, the ethernetCsmacd is buggy on early
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:08] <nemo_> versions*
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:36] <TBKdan> nemo_: I'm using 2.2.2...
[02-Jul-2008 14:33:35] <TBKdan> Wait, early versions of Zenoss or SNMP?
[02-Jul-2008 14:34:58] <nemo_> zenoss
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:00] <nemo_> 2.1.x
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:43] <MoreDakka> ha...2.1.x isn't that early ;-)
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:48] <MoreDakka> we are still running 1.1.1
[02-Jul-2008 14:36:25] <TBKdan> lol
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:22] <Comradin> some days ago I had to delete the Data.fs file, as it was 9G of size and had reduced the remaining space on the device close to a few megs..
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:39] <Comradin> two days ago I started the zenoss server again
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:56] <Comradin> today I watched the Data.fs file and its just 1.8M in size..
[02-Jul-2008 14:40:31] <Comradin> but, when accessing the servers webpage I got a message, that there are some zope users missing for the zenoss access
[02-Jul-2008 14:40:45] <Comradin> looks like I managed to kill the service
[02-Jul-2008 14:41:26] <Comradin> is it difficult to create the missing user?
[02-Jul-2008 14:43:00] <Comradin> if not, the server wasnt configured very much, so I could do a reinstall of the whole zenoss package
[02-Jul-2008 14:48:07] <TBKdan> I just realized that there are already performance graphs per interface if I just go to the OS tab... kind of annoying to look at two tabs for performance, but w/e, I guess it works...
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:34] <nemo_> pewr is different to OS
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:37] <nemo_> perf*
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:47] <nemo_> os is disks, interfaces, etc
[02-Jul-2008 14:55:02] <nemo_> perf = uptime, memory and so on, generated by the perf template
[02-Jul-2008 14:55:09] <nemo_> not by the snmp collectors
[02-Jul-2008 16:51:37] * locohost playes with the sand in his mini zenoss zen garden
[02-Jul-2008 16:52:54] <TBKdan> lol
[02-Jul-2008 16:53:05] * TBKdan eats his baby carrots
[02-Jul-2008 17:51:17] <duncan> I ran zenperfsnmp from the command line on a single host to debug collection for a new template... now every time I start zenperfsnmp it only scans that single node?! how do I get it to scan everything else again?
[02-Jul-2008 17:53:56] <duncan> this is what I get when I type zenperfsnmp run: ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: iteration over non-sequence]
[02-Jul-2008 17:55:57] <neil__> were you not the guy who lost his data.fs
[02-Jul-2008 17:55:58] <neil__> ?
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:11] <duncan> neil__: nope not me
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:11] <neil__> if so, thats where the devices were stored ...
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:20] <neil__> oh thats good for you then
[02-Jul-2008 17:58:50] <duncan> neil__: my $ZENHOME/var/Data.fs file is 1.9gb
[02-Jul-2008 18:03:25] <duncan> hmm looks like deleting my pickles might fix it
[02-Jul-2008 18:04:34] <neil__> zenpack the db is the way
[02-Jul-2008 18:04:44] <neil__> the pickle files are just temp cache i believe
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:30] <duncan> hmm yep, deleting the pickles didn't do squad
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:36] <duncan> squat rather
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:51] <duncan> zenpack the db? not sure what you mean
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:10] <neil__> google it ;p
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:18] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.itp.edu/
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:42] <neil__> whatever __adytum-bot__
[02-Jul-2008 18:24:45] <duncan> well, I tried removing all my zenpacks but that doesn't seem to work, I can manually scan single nodes with zenperfsnmp but it won't pull the list from zenhub -- I googled for "zenpack zenperfsnmp non-sequence" and didn't find anything relevant
[02-Jul-2008 18:28:27] <cluther> duncan: How did you come to the conclusion that it has something to do with zenpacks?
[02-Jul-2008 18:28:43] <cluther> I may have missed some context.
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:32] <duncan> cluther: neil__ suggested that I "zenpack the db" and "google it" when I asked what that meant... the only results I found were related to removing packages to fix the iteration of non-sequence errors I'm getting in zenperfsnmp
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:46] <cluther> ah, got it.
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:48] <cluther> Do this..
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:03] <cluther> Stop all of Zenoss, then do "zeoctl start" to only start ZEO.
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:06] <duncan> I'm noticing now, with zenperfsnmp, that each time it starts a new cycle it seems to have added 1 or 2 nodes to the list... it's up to 6 now out of what used to be 650+
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:22] <cluther> Then start zenhub in one terminal with "zenhub run -v 10"
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:31] <cluther> Then in another terminal run "zenperfsnmp run"
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:38] <duncan> cluther: allright, I'll try that
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:42] <cluther> Watch the zenhub Window and let me know what stack trace eventually appears.
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:53] <cluther> Pastebin it if you would.
[02-Jul-2008 18:33:22] <duncan> http://pastebin.com/m1c644f2
[02-Jul-2008 18:33:55] <cluther> duncan: Thanks.
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:07] <cluther> You have the ethernetCsmacd template bound to a device somewhere. Any idea where?
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:10] <cluther> This should never be done..
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:22] <cluther> Check out http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/how-zenoss-chooses-templates
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:26] <cluther> for an explanation of why
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:37] <__adytum-bot__> Title: How Zenoss Chooses Templates - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Jul-2008 18:35:47] <duncan> cluther: I'm not sure where that would be, but I bet I know who did it...!
[02-Jul-2008 18:36:02] <duncan> cluther: is there a way to trace this down from the exception?
[02-Jul-2008 18:38:34] <cluther> sure.. fire up zendmd.
[02-Jul-2008 18:39:05] <cluther> http://pastebin.com/maa49b36
[02-Jul-2008 18:40:27] <duncan> cluther: I pasted that data into zendmd, do I need to do something to tell it to run?
[02-Jul-2008 18:40:50] <cluther> an extra hit of enter will do it.
[02-Jul-2008 18:41:58] <duncan> excellent.. thanks! I'll unbind those devices
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:27] <duncan> I have the oreilly learning python book, I should have known that! =)
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:48] <cluther> heh.. if you say so.
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:50] <duncan> well, I restarted zenperfsnmp and it polled 145 nodes.. so it's getting better
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[02-Jul-2008 19:33:45] <magnachef> do I need to stop zenoss before running the zenbackup?
[02-Jul-2008 19:51:20] <cluther> magnachef: You don't need to.
[02-Jul-2008 19:52:54] <magnachef> I assumed it was just recommended, but not necessary
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[02-Jul-2008 20:33:25] <teletype> is there anything special i need to do in order to get zenmodeler to attempt to process the hrSWInstalled map for a device?
[02-Jul-2008 20:35:01] <teletype> nevermind, figured it out
[02-Jul-2008 20:36:15] <teletype> huzzah! i have the software tab populated via snmp for debian. =) wrote a perl snmpd extension implementing the hrswinstalled mib table
[02-Jul-2008 20:37:46] <neil__> curious, it just worked for me ..
[02-Jul-2008 20:38:53] <cluther> neil__: On Debian? I saw one of their developers posting somewhat recently that he was planning on adding this, but I didn't think it was part of the system yet.
[02-Jul-2008 20:39:31] <neil__> centos5 here
[02-Jul-2008 20:39:47] <neil__> i did load lots of mibs might have made a difference
[02-Jul-2008 20:41:52] <magnachef> when doing zenbackup is there anyway to have the /tmp/XXXX dir not be in /tmp? it's filling my root partition
[02-Jul-2008 20:42:37] <cluther> --temp-dir=/wherever
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:19] <cluther> neil__: RPM distributions do work just fine with the installed software. It's the apt based ones that don't.
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:21] <magnachef> nice, thx
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:29] <cluther> telexicon: That's very cool.. feel like sharing your extension?
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:33] <neil__> cluther, kool 4 me
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:44] <cluther> Doh.. teletype left.
[02-Jul-2008 21:52:55] <warwick> greetings zenoss people
[02-Jul-2008 21:53:42] <warwick> anyone know why installing zenpacks from the web GUI borks with: /bin/sh: zenpack: command not found
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:12] <warwick> something doesnt have the correct path? or env variables? ($ZENHOME?)
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:30] <warwick> installing zenpacks from the shell works fine
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:58] <warwick> zenoss 2.2.0
[02-Jul-2008 21:55:50] <cluther> Sounds like it'd have something to do with the way that Zope was started..
[02-Jul-2008 21:55:58] <cluther> su - zenoss
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:00] <cluther> zopectl restart
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:03] <cluther> Then try again
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:54] <warwick> cluther: thanks i will try that
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:09] <warwick> cluther: thanks. i was missing export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH in .bashrc and then needed to restart zenoss. working now
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:32] <cluther> Sometimes it's the simple things..
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:52] <warwick> right
[02-Jul-2008 22:07:03] <cluther> Source install?
[02-Jul-2008 22:07:56] <warwick> using the source, luke
[02-Jul-2008 23:08:43] <warwick> cluther: do you work for Zenoss?
[02-Jul-2008 23:08:49] <warwick> anyone here work for Zenoss?
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[03-Jul-2008 00:21:26] <magnachef> mrayzenoss does
[03-Jul-2008 03:17:32] <cgibbons> hmmm
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[03-Jul-2008 13:32:39] <alanjds_> Hi
[03-Jul-2008 13:34:47] <alanjds_> I have some trouble using XML-RPC interface
[03-Jul-2008 13:35:09] <alanjds_> and I already read the fancy manual
[03-Jul-2008 13:39:20] <alanjds_> ??
[03-Jul-2008 13:39:33] <alanjds_> is someone awake?
[03-Jul-2008 13:40:27] <cgibbons> sure, just not able to help
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:19] <TBKdan> awake is a subjective term.
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:21] <alanjds_> right
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:43] <alanjds_> ok, ok... is someone reading and able to reply?
[03-Jul-2008 13:51:12] <TBKdan> Possibly
[03-Jul-2008 13:51:45] <TBKdan> Whether or not I can help is a different story
[03-Jul-2008 13:54:07] <alanjds_> i'm trying to add 39 networks. So, why not use a script? Because I can't find how!
[03-Jul-2008 13:54:30] <alanjds_> even with Devel Guide and API Reference
[03-Jul-2008 13:55:12] <alanjds_> to me API Ref. seems broken
[03-Jul-2008 13:56:06] <alanjds_> described objects have not their described methods (exposed?)
[03-Jul-2008 13:56:22] <cluther> Which method on which object are you trying to call?
[03-Jul-2008 13:57:26] <alanjds_> ZenModel.IpNetwork.manage_addIpNetwork()
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:03] <alanjds_> but see:
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:40] <alanjds_> >>> net = dmd.getDmdRoot("Networks")
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:46] <alanjds_> >>> net
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:51] <alanjds_> <IpNetwork at /zport/dmd/Networks>
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:56] <alanjds_> >>> net.manage_addIpNetwork()
[03-Jul-2008 13:59:08] <alanjds_> AttributeError: manage_addIpNetwork
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:17] <cluther> I think the API states clearly that manage_addIpNetwork is a static method that is part of the IpNetwork module, not an object method.
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:35] <alanjds_> hum...
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:46] <cluther> use the createNet(CIDR) method instead
[03-Jul-2008 14:01:13] <kop__> there's a thread in the forums about "OID lookup in event transform", but there has been no resolution to that. anyone familiar with the problem?
[03-Jul-2008 14:01:25] <alanjds_> at API, addIpNetwork is not marked as @staticmethod
[03-Jul-2008 14:02:29] <kop__> I receive a trap where, in this case, upsAlarmDescr is "(1, 3, 6, 1, 2, 1, 33, 1, 6, 3, 2)"
[03-Jul-2008 14:02:47] <cluther> alanjds_: Fair enough, but you see that is in the module and not the class, right?
[03-Jul-2008 14:03:01] <kop__> clearly that (....) is supposed to be an OID, but it looks like a literal tuple to me
[03-Jul-2008 14:03:03] <cluther> alanjds_: Doesn't really matter.. createNet will work when called on an IpNetwork object.. manage_addIpNetwork won't.
[03-Jul-2008 14:04:07] <kop__> in other words: I need to resolve parameters of a trap while inside an event transform
[03-Jul-2008 14:04:44] <cluther> kop__: Zenoss won't try to decode the values in varbinds, only the names.. so I think that makes the answer to your question yes.
[03-Jul-2008 14:05:51] <cluther> kop__: See this ticket for an open enhancement request related to this: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/2778
[03-Jul-2008 14:05:58] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #2778 (Use MIB to decode value of trap varbinds) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[03-Jul-2008 14:08:06] <alanjds_> I'm back
[03-Jul-2008 14:09:47] <kop__> cluther: yeah, that is one instance is the problem
[03-Jul-2008 14:10:19] <cluther> kop__: I suppose a transform is the easiest way in that case. It sounds like the varbind is formatted weirdly anyway.
[03-Jul-2008 14:10:25] <cluther> kop__: I've never seen one like that before.
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:02] <kop__> cluther: in my example, I don't get it what happened - but as can see the OID in not in the format of a typical string representation for an OID.. but like, tuple-like
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:13] <kop__> yeah, exactly
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:28] <cluther> I've definitely seen OIDs come in as values and they didn't look like that.
[03-Jul-2008 14:13:01] <cluther> If you haven't already figured it out you can transform it to the normal OID string with this..
[03-Jul-2008 14:13:37] <cluther> evt.upsAlarmDescr = '.'.join(map(str, eval(evt.upsAlarmDescr)))
[03-Jul-2008 14:15:29] <alanjds_> cluther: can you send this script to me?
[03-Jul-2008 14:17:11] <cluther> alanjds_: Which script?
[03-Jul-2008 14:17:55] <kop__> cluther: figured that one out myself... but that leaves you still having to resolve them manually some other way to understand what's going on
[03-Jul-2008 14:18:11] <kop__> resolve <- as in oid2name
[03-Jul-2008 14:18:20] <kop__> or "google it"
[03-Jul-2008 14:19:21] <alanjds_> cluther: You said me to use createNet(CIDR). Have you an example?
[03-Jul-2008 14:19:50] <alanjds_> or better: where to find it at API?
[03-Jul-2008 14:20:13] <alanjds_> I know that is it there, but where?
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:03] <cluther> alanjds_: You're already looking at the IpNetwork module. Click into the IpNetwork class within there. createNet is a method on that class.
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:13] <cluther> kop__: oid2name would definitely be the nice way.
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:45] <cluther> evt.upsAlarmDescr = device.dmd.Mibs.oid2name('.'.join(map(str, eval(evt.upsAlarmDescr))))
[03-Jul-2008 14:22:45] <alanjds_> cluther: ok. Is there. Tks
[03-Jul-2008 14:22:58] <kop__> hmm so it's available under device dot ..
[03-Jul-2008 14:23:22] <kop__> how the heck are you supposed to know what namespaces are available where :-)
[03-Jul-2008 14:23:50] <cluther> kop__: Osmosis.
[03-Jul-2008 14:24:26] <cluther> kop__: You print out the source code and sleep with it under your pillow every night for 30 days.
[03-Jul-2008 14:25:51] <cluther> kop__: If you look at the applyTransform method of EventClassInst (Products/ZenEvents/EventClassInst.py) you'll see what objects it loads into the context for transforms.
[03-Jul-2008 14:30:55] <kop__> ah, that's a good hint
[03-Jul-2008 14:32:34] <TBKdan> Hopefully bash likes it too
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[03-Jul-2008 22:16:41] <ralfWORK> hello, I just installed zenoss-stack_2.2.0-0_i386.deb and am curious where I should access my admin panel
[03-Jul-2008 22:17:00] <ralfWORK> I tried http://host:8080/zport/dmd
[03-Jul-2008 22:17:07] <ralfWORK> but I get a tomcat 404
[03-Jul-2008 22:46:17] <ralfWORK> oh. sorry I'm a tard
[03-Jul-2008 22:46:34] <ralfWORK> firewall was pushing :8080 to another box
[03-Jul-2008 23:36:39] <Tripsev> Am I connected?
[03-Jul-2008 23:37:21] <Tripsev> Anybody available to assist me with Zenoss? I'm a beginner.
[03-Jul-2008 23:39:35] <Tripsev> Hello?
[03-Jul-2008 23:42:20] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[03-Jul-2008 23:52:58] <ralfWORK> yea I'm back
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:06] <Tripsev> oh, hi
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:11] <ralfWORK> hai!
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:23] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:57] <ralfWORK> I installed zenoss from the zenoss-stack Debian package... and it worked for a few minutes and then the web interface just kind astopped responding
[03-Jul-2008 23:54:00] <ralfWORK> any clues on this?
[03-Jul-2008 23:55:03] <Tripsev> Don't know. I have only run Zenoss for approximately 10 minutes successfully so far.
[03-Jul-2008 23:55:37] <Tripsev> Then the weekend hit. I'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on my 2k8 box tonight for further testing though.
[03-Jul-2008 23:58:53] <Tripsev> What I want to find out is whether I can remote control PCs on my monitored network with an integrated remote desktop client.
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[04-Jul-2008 00:00:50] <ralfWORK> I have no idea if that's possible, but it sounds far fetched to me
[04-Jul-2008 00:01:01] <ralfWORK> but don't listen to me, I'm more of a newb than you
[04-Jul-2008 00:02:53] <Tripsev> The company I work for monitors large networks. We currently use N-Able to do this at great cost. N-Able has an integrated remote control agent, as well as a 'help desk' login on a page that allows an Admin to VNC into unmanaged laptops.
[04-Jul-2008 00:03:40] <Tripsev> Zenoss already does at least 80% of what N-Able can do.
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[04-Jul-2008 04:41:52] <troy42> evening
[04-Jul-2008 13:40:42] <nemo_> weird one
[04-Jul-2008 13:40:54] <nemo_> trying to give admin privs to a user from AD
[04-Jul-2008 13:41:10] <nemo_> says it cant find him, but it so obviously does ...
[04-Jul-2008 14:00:26] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[04-Jul-2008 14:00:45] <nemo_> ???
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:02] <nemo_> it runs on unix
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:02] <Tripsev> Remote Desktop....
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:15] <nemo_> use , vnc , ssh , whatever you like
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:35] <Tripsev> I need it integrated into Zenoss
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:03] <Tripsev> I don't want to have to manually create a VNC session for each of the 1000's of monitored PCs.
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:20] <nemo_> FAIL
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:35] <Tripsev> Our current monitoring platfor "N-Able" already does this.
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:16] <Tripsev> *platform
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:16] <nemo_> scarp zenoss and use that then
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:21] <nemo_> scrap *
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:45] <Tripsev> Zenoss is free - N-Able is hellishly expensive.
[04-Jul-2008 15:22:10] <cy_`> hello
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:19] <cy_`> on a fresh installed "Ubuntu 8.04 - zenoss-stack-2.2.0-linux.bin" installation.. i get the same error like he does: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21733 .. when doing "zendeviceload"
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:36] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Migrate only device entries (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:39] <cy_`> what could possibly be wrong?
[04-Jul-2008 15:29:17] <cy_`> ping
[04-Jul-2008 18:17:57] <kso512> Tripsev: that sounds like a great idea for a ZenPack. Zenoss could detect port 5800 (or whichever port your est. uses) and make a link on the Summary page to load the HTTP/Java VNC connection pretty easily. Not sure how you'd launch the VNC Viewer executable from the Zenoss page, though. ActiveX maybe?
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[05-Jul-2008 05:42:02] <Tripsev> --> KSO512 Yes, I've seen it done using ActiveX with another web-based network monitoring system. Any given user visits a page and enters their credentials, as well as an Access Code.
[05-Jul-2008 05:44:00] <Tripsev> Once they've submitted the form a new page appears prompting them to download necessary software. Once they begin the installation the whole process of installing the VNC server is automated and controlled by the management server. The request for assistance prompts an Administrator logged into the web interface of the management server, allowing them to accept the connection and begin aiding the client.
[05-Jul-2008 05:45:13] <Tripsev> There are additional features I like about our current web based server from N-Able.
[05-Jul-2008 05:46:21] <Tripsev> The server basically listens for communication sent out port 80 (to bypass firewalls) and collects data that way. You set up a probe on a given network that performs all collection tasks and reports back to the server.
[05-Jul-2008 05:46:52] <Tripsev> You also have the option of installing "agents" by way of the already-present
[05-Jul-2008 05:47:23] <Tripsev> 'probe', which allows for more throrough monitoring and reporting of even deeper activity.
[05-Jul-2008 05:48:57] <Tripsev> With the agent installed on a given PC, you have the option of installing a "remote services manager" or RSM. This software allows for almost-instantaneous remote control though the web managment console of the RSM-installed agent.
[05-Jul-2008 05:50:32] <Tripsev> The RSM agent allows for VNC connection for viewing the screen (even without prompts to the user if you desire), controlling the mouse/keyboard, command prompt access, and live statistics of CPU/Disk or other performance metrics.
[05-Jul-2008 05:52:06] <Tripsev> The key to RSM is that the connection is basically a switch in the management console that alerts the Agent (which phones home to the server every minute or so for such things) that it wishes to establish said connection. This allows the connection to occur in almost any type of network setting.
[05-Jul-2008 05:55:33] <Tripsev> I would be more than happy to help Dev such a thing... but I'm not a coder. Although I do believe that if such features could be integrated into Zenoss, it would be extremely powerful.
[05-Jul-2008 06:56:07] <neil__> lol
[05-Jul-2008 07:15:17] <neil__> so code it yourself
[05-Jul-2008 07:15:22] <neil__> this is open source
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[06-Jul-2008 00:30:10] <MajereDB8> hi there, i'm currently testing out zenoss through the vmware appliance, and had a question about its modeling capability. i am attempting to monitor a network appliance using snmp, and can confirm that snmp is properly configured by walking the snmp tree through a different utility. however, i'm a bit lost in how to monitor certain system resources through zenoss
[06-Jul-2008 00:31:36] <MajereDB8> i've got the mibs loaded, and most of the oids that i need are in the standard host-resources mib. using a mib browser i can read data like the file systems, but zenoss doesn't appear to detect that information simply by modeling. could anyone point me in the right direction?
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[07-Jul-2008 06:52:15] <Ozux> I have a problem, I'm installing new ZenOSS, but after installing and Adding Networks to it and pressing "Discover Devices" (in that subnetwork) it do no thing, any idead? (it's on debian)
[07-Jul-2008 06:52:59] <Ozux> Note: I installed 2 others in our IDC and they work perfect on debian, even on Virtuozzo, but this one .. I don't know what should I du!
[07-Jul-2008 07:24:02] <nemo_> u shud learn 2 right
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[07-Jul-2008 10:01:33] <SniZ|work__> hi,. i add device to devices list. and when i try see graphs - i see MISSING RRD FILE
[07-Jul-2008 10:01:52] <SniZ|work__> how many time i must wait for see normal graps?
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[07-Jul-2008 11:36:32] <flo_> can somebody give me a hint on how2 monitor porcesses on SuSE and Windows machines?
[07-Jul-2008 12:13:49] <Ozux> flo__: I think you shoud use SNMP, it have some OID and MIB for this
[07-Jul-2008 12:18:19] <Ozux> flo__: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost hrSWRunParameters
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[07-Jul-2008 12:34:28] <flo__> that's clear, but how or where can i configure them in zenoss and also tell the system to just check them during office hours (7am-7pm)
[07-Jul-2008 13:46:55] <teknoprep> hi all
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:02] <teknoprep> have a few problems with zenoss that i don't know how to work out
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:08] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work__> hi,. i add device to devices list. and when i try see graphs - i see MISSING RRD FILE
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:09] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work__> how many time i must wait for see normal graps?
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:26] <teknoprep> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on voip.keystonesoftware.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:32] <teknoprep> what exactly does this mean ?
[07-Jul-2008 13:55:53] <teknoprep> nvm i fixed it
[07-Jul-2008 13:57:18] <flo__> how did you fix it?
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:29] <teknoprep> it was a linux server
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:33] <teknoprep> i fixed up the snmpd.conf
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:44] <teknoprep> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ#HowdoImakesurethefullSNMPtreeisbeingpublished
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Jul-2008 15:53:15] <teknoprep> how do i monitor a servers temperature with Zenoss ?
[07-Jul-2008 15:53:21] <teknoprep> windows servers
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:25] <Bulwinkle> teknoprep: find the OID and poll it
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:38] <teknoprep> how will it graph it ?
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:58] <Bulwinkle> teknoprep: create a graph
[07-Jul-2008 15:57:43] <teknoprep> how do i find the OID
[07-Jul-2008 15:57:47] <teknoprep> i see how to make the graph
[07-Jul-2008 18:13:35] <ckrough> How Now Brown Cow
[07-Jul-2008 18:21:00] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell zenoss to "just monitor everything" about a device?
[07-Jul-2008 18:21:49] <daMaestro> i have set "view all included .1" for the community, yet zenoss is monitoring very little
[07-Jul-2008 18:22:16] <kgoedtel> it is all dependent on your templates being used
[07-Jul-2008 18:22:29] <kgoedtel> zenoss needs to know what 'everything' is
[07-Jul-2008 18:23:51] <daMaestro> ok, so i need to apply more templates?
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:20] <ckrough> when the devices are discovered they will end up in /devices/discovered
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:48] <ckrough> you need to move the devices to the proper subclass of /devices so that zenoss can make assumptions on what they are and what should be monitored
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:52] <kgoedtel> if you place the server in a proper location, default templates will work automatically
[07-Jul-2008 18:25:19] <ckrough> ie, move network devices to the appropriate grouping under /devices/network , etc...
[07-Jul-2008 18:25:55] <daMaestro> yeah, well i put the device in a the linux server class.. but i'd really like to see everything monitored; so... it seems i need to create a template for what i want monitored and then bind the device to that template?
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:03] <kgoedtel> you keep saying 'everything'
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:15] <kgoedtel> everything is meaningless
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:23] <kgoedtel> net-snmp oid set is HUGE
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:59] <ckrough> it monitors a reasonable sane number of OIDs by default when the device is in a correct class
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:04] <ckrough> what type of device is it
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:18] <daMaestro> a linux server
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:32] <kgoedtel> so, what sort of data are you missing that you feel you should have?
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:44] <ckrough> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:52] <ckrough> read through that if you havent
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:58] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Jul-2008 18:31:48] <daMaestro> i have the above howto already implemented
[07-Jul-2008 18:38:23] <ckrough> what type of data are you missing
[07-Jul-2008 18:52:55] <daMaestro> for example, it doesn't correctly detect ethernet devices
[07-Jul-2008 18:54:20] <daMaestro> i'd like it to automatically acquire all ethernet devices and it's IP addresses
[07-Jul-2008 18:55:13] <daMaestro> also, it's miscalculating our ~65TB mounts
[07-Jul-2008 18:55:41] <daMaestro> and now, all of the perf graphs are reporting "nan%"
[07-Jul-2008 18:56:44] <daMaestro> another thing, why doesn't it know what to look for when wanting "uptime"
[07-Jul-2008 18:56:56] <daMaestro> "Uptime Unknown"
[07-Jul-2008 18:57:49] <kgoedtel> snmp definitely doesn't seem to be working properly for you
[07-Jul-2008 18:57:58] <kgoedtel> uptime is one of the most basic templates
[07-Jul-2008 19:05:58] <krphop> /opt/tier20 249.1GB 46.2TB -45.9TB 18981
[07-Jul-2008 19:06:35] <krphop> i'm assuming there is a limitation on how large a filesystem will be for zenoss to display it properly?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:05] <warwick> does anyone has any good advice on using hierarchy organization in Zenoss?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:07] <warwick> given 1,000+ servers of a few OS variants, with many different hardware configs, in multiple datacenters, split among many different functions (web, db, mail, dns, dev, storage etc etc) any suggestions for using hierarchy in Devices, Groups, Systems for best results in setting up monitoring?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:28] <warwick> How have you created your hierarchy in Devices? and how are you using Groups and Systems?
[07-Jul-2008 19:47:48] <kgoedtel> we use groups do describe physical locations and systems to model virtualized systems
[07-Jul-2008 19:47:53] <kgoedtel> to describe*
[07-Jul-2008 19:48:09] <kgoedtel> any given system may belong to multiple groups
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:00] <kgoedtel> device classes are only used for organizing templates and their bindings
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:39] <warwick> kgoedtel: interesting. so you are not using Locations?
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:39] <kgoedtel> which results in classifying system by model, type, or function
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:59] <kgoedtel> yeah we use that too
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:46] <kgoedtel> actually now that i think of it, yeah locations for address of datacenter
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:53] <warwick> so device classes, i am still undecided on how to create the devices tree
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:56] <kgoedtel> we have 3 locations
[07-Jul-2008 19:51:20] <kgoedtel> i think the main function of groups for us is to place servers in each cluster together
[07-Jul-2008 19:51:24] <warwick> whether to use hardware type, server function or OS to form the Devices hierachy
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:01] <warwick> how have you created your Devices classes?
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:11] <kgoedtel> i started doing hardware but it got too complicated
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:27] <kgoedtel> i resorted to mostly focusing on function of device
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:44] <warwick> ok
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:11] <kgoedtel> i have placed a lot of templates in server that 'could' work on devices in a sub class - but only bind to the ones i want modeled
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:21] <kgoedtel> err server class
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:57] <warwick> so you retained the default classes that ship with zenoss? messing with those seemed to produce Bad Things
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:07] <warwick> device classes that is
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:29] <kgoedtel> yeah it gets messy if you want to add zenpacks and such
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:30] <warwick> especially with Zenpacks that expected to find a Server class
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:35] <warwick>
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:50] <kgoedtel> i have created a bunch myself and don't care to change it again :]
[07-Jul-2008 19:55:01] <warwick> i hear you
[07-Jul-2008 19:55:44] <kgoedtel> fortunately we have really homogenized our devices/network here so things are fairly simple
[07-Jul-2008 19:56:55] <kgoedtel> i have found that systems and groups are only really useful for running reports
[07-Jul-2008 19:57:06] <kgoedtel> i don't use them for anything else really
[07-Jul-2008 19:58:35] <warwick> right, and they are arbitrary anyway, since zenoss doesnt appear to use Systems or Groups internally for anything. you could rename them anything you want probably?
[07-Jul-2008 19:58:47] <warwick> would be interesting to see more examples submitted to http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/06/06/show-us-your-zenoss-install/
[07-Jul-2008 19:59:02] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Show us your Zenoss Install! | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[07-Jul-2008 19:59:07] <warwick> to see how people have decided to setup zenoss
[07-Jul-2008 20:00:33] <kgoedtel> ours is pretty vanilla
[07-Jul-2008 20:00:57] <kgoedtel> i just take advantage of the extensibility of it
[07-Jul-2008 20:01:16] <kgoedtel> through net-snmp pass scripts, zenpacks, and custom templates
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:02] <kgoedtel> otherwise the defaults are relatively intact
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:25] <warwick> are you using any nagios check scripts or plugins? we are considering zenoss as a replacement for nagios+munin
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:46] <kgoedtel> yeah through zenpacks only though
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:54] <kgoedtel> i dislike the raw commands
[07-Jul-2008 20:03:57] <kgoedtel> we used nagios for a while, but i like zenoss wayyyy more
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:25] <kgoedtel> and i think i would love it even more if i was actually good at python
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:49] <warwick> are any of your zenpacks available for d/l?
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:58] <kgoedtel> nope :\
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:19] <kgoedtel> most of them are custom to our setup so they wouldnt be much use to anyone
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:27] <warwick> gotcha
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:46] <kgoedtel> although i should contribute back my changes to the apache zenpack that they provide
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:06] <kgoedtel> theirs is crap
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:18] <warwick> last question, kgoedtel are you using different collectors in each location?
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:35] <kgoedtel> no but we have considered it
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:57] <kgoedtel> it is annoying when the wan goes down between them
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:11] <warwick> how many devices do you have in zenoss, and do you see any performance issues on the zenoss server?
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:17] <kgoedtel> and due to the vpn stuff the dependencies dont resolve properly
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:23] <kgoedtel> so they all fail remotely
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:56] <kgoedtel> a few hundred, and zenoss is a huge memory hog
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:10] <kgoedtel> cpu wise it is pretty negligible
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:50] <warwick> yeah i dont think we would be able to handle 1000 devices with a single zenoss collector, based on what it looks like with 30 test devices right now
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:58] <kgoedtel> right now we have 3 gigs for zenoss which isn't really enough
[07-Jul-2008 20:09:09] <warwick> hey thanks for the info, interesting
[07-Jul-2008 20:09:30] <kgoedtel> np
[07-Jul-2008 20:18:51] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question for anyone out there - i'm testing out the zenoss vmware image, and i have an e-mail alert rule set up. it's going to send over SMS, so i'd like zenoss to acknowledge the alert when the receipient replies to the e-mail. can anyone point me in the right direction for where i could find some directions?
[07-Jul-2008 20:19:51] <MajereDB8> unfortunately the administrator guide and the forums didn't seem to cover something like that
[07-Jul-2008 20:26:58] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, are you running 32bit or 64bit?
[07-Jul-2008 20:30:01] <ckrough> \
[07-Jul-2008 20:40:39] <kgoedtel> 64bit rhel5
[07-Jul-2008 20:43:42] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, i'd recommend looking at using 32bit. zope (really, python 2.4) eats amazing amounts of RAM with a 64bit platform
[07-Jul-2008 20:43:53] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, with 32bit.. the ram usage is much more sensible
[07-Jul-2008 20:45:24] <kgoedtel> i run it under xen and would rather not run 32bit virtuals :] memory is cheap anyhow
[07-Jul-2008 20:45:43] <kgoedtel> i am satisfied with the responsiveness otherwise
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:02] <krphop> i just wish i could get the friggin thing to wrok
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:04] <krphop> lol
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:26] <kgoedtel> where are you stuck?
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:46] <daMaestro> yeah, what species of animal are we needing to sacrifice to get zenoss to automatically enumerate the networking interfaces ?
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:04] <krphop> 1. none of my interface graphs work
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:08] <kgoedtel> i dunno, my interfaces work fine :\
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:13] <krphop> 2. i cant add IP's to a eth interface
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:34] <krphop> 3. graphs are borked for one of my hosts, even after deleting and re-creating the device
[07-Jul-2008 20:48:33] <krphop> 4. there's no real howto guide to create devices, templates, etc. just a bunch of documentation on what it all can do, not how to use it
[07-Jul-2008 20:48:47] <krphop> thats about where i'm stuck so far ;-)
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:10] <kgoedtel> yeah i dunno
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:37] <kgoedtel> out of the box everything worked for me, and my tech-intuition usually helps me a bit to figure things out
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:45] <kgoedtel> i haven't read much of any documentation
[07-Jul-2008 20:54:51] <kgoedtel> the stuff available now is far better than what they had when i started using it though
[07-Jul-2008 20:55:05] <kgoedtel> i started with 1.x
[07-Jul-2008 22:21:08] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell zenoss to re-try auto-detecting stuff like filesystems, ethernet devices, etc?
[07-Jul-2008 23:03:15] <kso512> daMaestro: Zenoss will re-model every device every 24 hours by default, AFAIK...
[07-Jul-2008 23:03:40] <daMaestro> yeah, i found how to force it to re-model.. but it didn't pick up all the automagic i expected
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[08-Jul-2008 00:27:29] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3337
[08-Jul-2008 00:27:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3337 (at fpaste.org)
[08-Jul-2008 00:28:13] * daMaestro blah, i really don't want to debug any template issues today
[08-Jul-2008 00:30:58] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[08-Jul-2008 00:31:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[08-Jul-2008 00:46:32] <explody> anyone know how to configure zenoss to monitor a device or service only during a certain time period?
[08-Jul-2008 00:48:57] <explody> oh I see, maintenance windows
[08-Jul-2008 01:06:22] <explody> I may be stuck in nagios-land, but if I fix a problem and I want zenoss to reflect the fix immediately, is there a way to force a check of a service or host?
[08-Jul-2008 01:08:24] <explody> aaaan last but not least, why, following what appears to be a clean restart, amd I getting this in events: 18:07:14.000 helium.gemstone.com zenwin heartbeat failure
[08-Jul-2008 01:08:47] <explody> while I'm getting this in the zenwin log: 18:03:19 WARNING zen.zenwin: Reconnected to ZenHub
[08-Jul-2008 01:09:10] <explody> someone is wrong, methinks....
[08-Jul-2008 01:55:58] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[08-Jul-2008 02:00:10] <imperfect-> Anyone about?
[08-Jul-2008 04:13:54] <__adytum-bot__> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Native LoadBalancing for Twisted Apps - 05 Jul, 10:04PM
[08-Jul-2008 04:13:55] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=201
[08-Jul-2008 12:10:34] <imperfect-> Morning, anyone around?
[08-Jul-2008 13:23:40] warwick_lap is now known as warwick
[08-Jul-2008 13:34:34] <duncan> is it possible to duplicate a performance template? I have one created in /Devices/Server and when I try to copy it to the same folder it does nothing
[08-Jul-2008 14:12:11] <linash> duncan, no problem here: the template is copied with a 'copy_of_' prefix.
[08-Jul-2008 14:34:35] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[08-Jul-2008 14:34:57] <imperfect-> I'm using core and it's listing the same device twice on the dashboard... anyone know why?
[08-Jul-2008 15:00:49] <magnachef> what version?
[08-Jul-2008 15:11:43] <imperfect-> 2.1
[08-Jul-2008 15:12:09] <magnachef> and you're not seeing duplicates in the device list?
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:52] <imperfect-> Correction here
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:56] <imperfect-> I'm using 2.2
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:57] <imperfect-> And no
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> Starting Zope Object Database
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> . daemon process started, pid=7256
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> (this can take a few minutes)
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:01] <imperfect-> I'm nots eeing duplicates in the device list
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:05] <n0c> any thoughts?
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:10] <n0c> this is hanging
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:11] <imperfect-> just in the dashboard notifications
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:30] <n0c> this is from ./install.sh
[08-Jul-2008 17:12:20] <MajereDB8> hi, i'm currently testing the zenoss vmware image, and am trying to set up an e-mail alert rule that can be acknowledged via an e-mail response, rather than by visiting the web site listed in the default rule. essentially, i'd like to be able to respond to an e-mail with one of two messages, one that will acknowledge the event and one that will tell zenoss to e-mail another technician.
[08-Jul-2008 17:12:21] <MajereDB8> i haven't been able to find much documentation on the admin guide or the web boards for something like that, and wondered if someone point me in the right direction
[08-Jul-2008 17:34:23] <magnachef> I've never heard of that, actually...but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist
[08-Jul-2008 17:34:39] <magnachef> documentation is generally pretty thin
[08-Jul-2008 17:36:45] <MajereDB8> yeah... i'm guessing that the alert rule chaining to e-mail a second technician wouldn't be that complicated. the acknowledge by e-mail one is a bit over my head, but i'd think it would be a pretty common request
[08-Jul-2008 17:37:27] <MajereDB8> a lot of people use e-mail to SMS gateways instead of pagers and you may not be able to hit a web site over SMS
[08-Jul-2008 17:37:35] <MajereDB8> well, over a device with SMS
[08-Jul-2008 17:38:01] <MajereDB8> obviously you can't surf the web via text
[08-Jul-2008 17:39:33] <magnachef> indeed
[08-Jul-2008 17:39:42] <magnachef> have you posted to the zenoss-dev forum?
[08-Jul-2008 17:40:32] <magnachef> you may get a better response there - and from one of the devs
[08-Jul-2008 17:41:49] <MajereDB8> i haven't. i'm a bit sheepish about posting what comes even close to resembling a feature request, but hey it's worth a shot
[08-Jul-2008 17:45:53] <magnachef> eh, someone's gotta do it
[08-Jul-2008 17:46:08] <magnachef> otherwise, they may not feel it's that important
[08-Jul-2008 18:32:35] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to get an interactive session using a user command?
[08-Jul-2008 18:32:43] <imperfect-> i.e. could i somehow get it to spawn telnet or ssh ?
[08-Jul-2008 19:14:44] <explody> any ideas why my zenoss box has heartbeat failures for zenwin, zenprocess and zeventlog, although all 3 are up and running fine and report themselves as connected to the hub?
[08-Jul-2008 19:15:10] <explody> I seem to remember this having happened the last time I tried out zenoss as well. but I can't remember if I found the cause
[08-Jul-2008 19:20:27] <imperfect-> explody: You done much w/ ZenOSS?
[08-Jul-2008 19:21:49] <explody> a fair amount
[08-Jul-2008 19:22:16] <explody> it's been a while since I last looked into it
[08-Jul-2008 19:23:48] <telexicon_> explody, that always happens whenever i try zenoss
[08-Jul-2008 19:24:11] <telexicon_> along with a few other random failures.. eventually i just give up trying to make it work
[08-Jul-2008 19:24:29] <explody> hah, that's what happened to me last time
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:07] <telexicon_> like it was scanning my servers, and then it said all of my server's http services had failed, even though they were running fine.. and i couldnt figure out how to clear the events
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:22] <explody> yeah I remember that too
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:23] <telexicon_> and then it started flooding all these other events for computers that i never told it to watch (workstations.. i dont care about those)
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:34] <explody> this new ver seems easier, you can move events to history
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:22] <telexicon_> hmm, ill have to give it a try again sometime
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:31] <imperfect-> It's behaving very weird, this ZenOSS is.
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:34] <telexicon_> we still haven't found any other monitoring solutions
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:37] <imperfect-> I've got a process class created for dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:51] <imperfect-> and it works on one box, find the process and all is well
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:57] <imperfect-> but reports it down on a TWIN sister box
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:59] <telexicon_> i tried hyperic, but it fell apart after a little bit
[08-Jul-2008 19:31:44] <explody> telexicon_: there's always nagios
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:10] indradg is now known as idg|dinner
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:25] <imperfect-> Man this just doesn't make sense
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:29] <imperfect-> I've got 2 identical boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:35] <imperfect-> which were working fine all day monitoring dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:41] <imperfect-> now suddenly one of them is showing down
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:45] <imperfect-> for no apparent reason
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:52] <telexicon_> explody, *sighs* .. i suppose
[08-Jul-2008 19:39:35] <explody> telexicon_: nagios+monarch isn't bad, it's what we're using now
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:14] <magnachef> what is the full process name?
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:29] <imperfect-> /usr/bin/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:44] idg|dinner is now known as indradg
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:51] <magnachef> and are you ignoring parameters?
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:03] <imperfect-> I am
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:05] <imperfect-> Like I said
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:08] <imperfect-> it was working all flipping day
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:10] <imperfect-> both boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:11] <imperfect-> nothing different
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:12] <imperfect-> nothing changed
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:14] <imperfect-> and RANDOMLY
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:19] <imperfect-> it just stopped working on one
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:20] <magnachef> oh yeah, come to think of it, you probably are timing out
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:21] <imperfect-> threw an error
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:32] <imperfect-> What causes that?
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:35] <magnachef> I had this issue, and I bumped up my zSNMPTimeout
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:48] <magnachef> (or something like that in zProperties)
[08-Jul-2008 19:53:31] <magnachef> just that SNMP can hang when walking the processes, and just alerts because of it that it isn't running
[08-Jul-2008 19:54:37] <magnachef> so under the /Devices class, click on zProperties, then change zSnmpTimeout
[08-Jul-2008 19:54:57] <magnachef> I actually have it bumped up to 15.0
[08-Jul-2008 19:55:43] <magnachef> so was the one that randomly stopped working the primary of the two?
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:07] <imperfect-> Uhm
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:12] <imperfect-> I dont ahve them in there as primary and secondary
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:16] <imperfect-> I jsut have two boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:19] <imperfect-> they're identical
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:22] <imperfect-> one worked and one didnt
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:36] <magnachef> ok, jw
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:05] <imperfect-> magnachef: the wrid this is, I deleted the osProcess from the host
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:08] <imperfect-> and it re-added itself!
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:10] <imperfect-> and now it's fine
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:32] <magnachef> yeah, if you remodel the device it will find it an add it
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:43] <imperfect-> But how does it know that's what I'm looking for?
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:45] <magnachef> so now lock it from being removed
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:01] <magnachef> because you defined the regex in Processes
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:18] <imperfect-> Right, but I deleted the process from the host?
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:32] <magnachef> you did that before remodeling though, right?
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:37] <magnachef> so everytime you model it, or zenmodeler runs and remodels the device, it checks your processes on the machine against the regexp's you defined. If it matches one, it'll add it to your host, unless you specify otherwise
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:48] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:51] <imperfect-> I never remodeled.
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:56] <imperfect-> Maybe that's the step I'm missing.
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:10] <imperfect-> (I've been using Zen for like 5 hours, sorry)
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:30] <imperfect-> the googlemaps integration is cool but it's so darn slow ;(
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:45] <magnachef> heh, ok...then you still have a good amount of playing/tweaking to go :-)
[08-Jul-2008 20:07:19] <magnachef> I've never used it
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:23] <imperfect-> nod nod
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:35] <imperfect-> magnachef: well it's neat. I work for a large metropolitian school district
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:43] <imperfect-> I've got like 70 sites or so
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:52] <imperfect-> so Ig uess I'm mid sized.. anyway, with the gmaps addon
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:01] <imperfect-> I get dots all over thecity, it's pretty sweet
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:07] <magnachef> nice...I used to work for a bank, and I know that it could definitely come in handy
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:28] <magnachef> yeah, I don't have much use for it now unfortunately
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:07] <imperfect-> Yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:08] <imperfect-> But like I said
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:09] <imperfect-> it's slow
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:20] <imperfect-> I've got this setup on a quad core box w/ 8 gig of ram
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:37] <magnachef> yeah, unfortunately there's the internet and google's service that it's reliant on
[08-Jul-2008 20:18:50] <imperfect-> nod nod
[08-Jul-2008 20:18:55] <imperfect-> I wish it'd cache it or something
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:00] <imperfect-> take a snap show to show while it's loading
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:01] <imperfect-> something!
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:16] <imperfect-> anything other than an empty spot on my dashboard
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:23] <magnachef> it would be nice to download the data for a certain region
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:32] <imperfect-> Here's another question: what exactly is the 'use' of the network map?
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:47] <imperfect-> I mean it's a neat toy, but I'm having trouble figuring out how it can be useful
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:08] <magnachef> help visualize networks, subnets, connected devices, etc
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:27] <imperfect-> Well I guess my real question is: it's not very useful since it isn't static
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:42] <imperfect-> if it were like a visio drawing, that'd be helpful but as it stands you start fresh each time
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:07] <imperfect-> So where it could totally awesome as a GUI status map, it's not very helpful because it isn't static
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:20] <magnachef> well, I believe you can have your different network clouds and see high level status, then drill in accordingly
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:42] <magnachef> it seems kinda nagios-like, IIRC
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:54] <imperfect-> Yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:57] <imperfect-> I've added my core router
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:59] <imperfect-> (big mistake)
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:05] <magnachef> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:12] <imperfect-> and it does let me drill down
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:23] <imperfect-> but it'd be more useful, imo, if you could select a pre-configured map view
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:43] <magnachef> you can select the default setting and device/network
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:00] <imperfect-> Well
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:05] <imperfect-> What I need to get this adopted here
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:10] <imperfect-> is a map-overview
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:36] <imperfect-> something a CIO can stare at
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:39] <imperfect-> and know all is well
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:53] <magnachef> yeah, seems more like the Google map stuff than the network map stuff
[08-Jul-2008 20:24:43] <imperfect-> I'm printing out the manual as we speak
[08-Jul-2008 20:24:53] <imperfect-> So hopefully i can figure something out
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:32] <magnachef> yeah, it's a little bit of help, but also search through the forums for help
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:33] <imperfect-> LOL
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:35] <imperfect-> this is nuts!
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:39] <imperfect-> Now I"m getting errors on that host
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:45] <imperfect-> and yet under OS processes
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:51] <imperfect-> the status is green
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:09] <magnachef> what errors, and are you looking at the event list?
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:17] <imperfect-> at the dashboard
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:20] <imperfect-> and then event list
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:26] <imperfect-> it shows there being an error on the process
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:30] <imperfect-> i go in ack/history it
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:32] <imperfect-> minute later
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:33] <imperfect-> comes back
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:34] <magnachef> make sure you set the event list to "start" so that it refreshes
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:36] <imperfect-> go into os
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:53] <magnachef> well, you need to just ack it
[08-Jul-2008 20:27:09] <magnachef> if you move it to history, then it happens again, it'll show back up in the list
[08-Jul-2008 20:27:41] <imperfect-> well isnt that what I want to have happen?
[08-Jul-2008 20:30:47] <imperfect-> See something else is weird
[08-Jul-2008 20:30:59] <imperfect-> Because when I add the sister box, I've noticed the name of the process is /usr/sbin/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:31:06] <imperfect-> but on this main box, the name is set to dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:37:30] <imperfect-> See, another problem is, there's no way to get anything but a green dot
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:14] <magnachef> what is your regex?
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:46] <magnachef> I've seen taht before, because it goes off of the snmp HRSWRun mib variable, or one of those
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:57] <imperfect-> my regex is just dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:21] <magnachef> so you may need to include the path
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:25] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:27] <imperfect-> That's the thing
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:30] <imperfect-> the other one is _fine_
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:30] <imperfect->
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:33] <imperfect-> has been all day
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:33] <magnachef> so make it /usr/sbin/dhcp
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:39] <imperfect-> I've done that too
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:47] <imperfect-> it escaped the /
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:53] <magnachef> I've had some issues with that too though
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:00] <imperfect-> so it'd hgave to be \/usr\/bin\/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:01] <imperfect-> prolly
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:03] <magnachef> with ldap though,
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:22] <magnachef> it may be a bug, myrayzenoss, you around?!
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:30] <imperfect-> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:39] <imperfect-> Well the big problem I'm seeing going forward is
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:40] <magnachef> I believe that's what they told me, you should do a quick search in the forums
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:45] <imperfect-> 70 dots ona city map aren't real useful
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:02] <magnachef> they don't change color?
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:07] <imperfect-> They do
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:11] <imperfect-> But I'm just playing CIo
[08-Jul-2008 20:43:29] <magnachef> well, it's high level...what are you thinking that a CIO will want
[08-Jul-2008 20:43:36] <magnachef> or your CIO more specifically
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:02] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:03] <imperfect-> Honestly
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:10] <imperfect-> It's my direct boss who is used to larger icons
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:16] <imperfect-> big green bastards
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:33] <magnachef> heh, you may be able to change the actual images
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:45] <magnachef> just make them bigger...and greener too!
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:24] <imperfect-> Honestly
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:28] <imperfect-> That'd prolly work
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:29] <imperfect-> Tell me
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:32] <imperfect-> are you using core?
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:36] <magnachef> yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:44] <imperfect-> any idea what the pricing model is?
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:49] <magnachef> per device
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:54] <imperfect-> oh guh
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:54] <imperfect->
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:59] <imperfect-> I've got at least 1k switches
[08-Jul-2008 20:46:14] <magnachef> yeah, it depends on what level of service you want
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:12] <imperfect-> I'm not as interested in the service as I am in better device support
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:23] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/product/enterprise
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:32] <imperfect-> Right now my 6513 catalyst has like 300 unrouted vlan interfaces that complain
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:11] <magnachef> This may answer your question better: http://www.zenoss.com/product/
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:31] <imperfect-> See
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:40] <imperfect-> that Global Dashboard is prolly what I want for the CIO
[08-Jul-2008 20:49:01] <magnachef> right
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:12] <imperfect-> them making rancid a pay feature
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:13] <imperfect-> is
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:15] <imperfect-> just well, rancid
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:33] <magnachef> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:53:01] <imperfect-> Though I'm thinking with a custom varible you could prolly get configs to live in Zen
[08-Jul-2008 20:53:34] <magnachef> well, it's open, so you can do anything, with the right skill set
[08-Jul-2008 20:54:51] <magnachef> that's the nice part
[08-Jul-2008 20:55:45] <warwick> hi everyone. if i am using only SSH and no SNMP, how can I troubleshoot why disk usage stats all remain "unknown" and performance charts dont work?
[08-Jul-2008 20:56:18] <warwick> manually running zenplugin.py via ssh on the monitored devices returns the data as expected
[08-Jul-2008 20:57:26] <magnachef> not sure, I only use snmp
[08-Jul-2008 21:01:21] <warwick> anyone hit this issue before? i see a bunch of discussions in the forums but they all seemed to revolve around snmp config issues
[08-Jul-2008 21:18:44] <imperfect-> The manual doesn't say much at all about the network map
[08-Jul-2008 21:18:49] <imperfect-> like where to set the default object
[08-Jul-2008 21:19:11] <magnachef> The manual is very thin...you can find that in the forum I think...
[08-Jul-2008 21:19:35] <imperfect-> kk
[08-Jul-2008 21:52:08] <ghettodev> anyone know where id start if I wanted to run through all my servers and pull out the mysql versions?
[08-Jul-2008 21:55:14] <magnachef> within zenoss? or actually going to each server?
[08-Jul-2008 21:59:44] <ghettodev> within zenoss. i'm hoping i can set up a regex product manufacturer or there is some way to do it in the reporting section
[08-Jul-2008 22:02:58] <ghettodev> magnachef: sorry, i always forget to quote usernames in my replies
[08-Jul-2008 22:07:01] <magnachef> is it being tracked via the software tab?
[08-Jul-2008 22:07:11] <ghettodev> yah
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[08-Jul-2008 23:02:40] <cdehaan> Hello! I added a router under the /network/router/cisco default template, but I want to remove some of the items that are monitored. I can delete them from the device OS tab, but they reappear at each remodel. What's the correct way to remove these from t
[08-Jul-2008 23:07:43] <cdehaan> *from being monitored on this device?
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[08-Jul-2008 23:16:14] <n0c> /eval say that's harsh
[08-Jul-2008 23:16:19] <n0c> haha
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[09-Jul-2008 00:57:17] <cdehaan> :/ Any advice?
[09-Jul-2008 01:03:35] <explody> not from me...
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:22] <cdehaan> haha
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:32] <cdehaan> Aaanyone else?
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:33] <explody> hey, it's better than silence
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:46] <cdehaan> Undoubtedly.
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:54] <cdehaan> Well, at least in this case.
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:59] <cdehaan> So you're a Zenoss user?
[09-Jul-2008 01:09:47] <explody> mmm I'm a Zenoss evaluator
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:22] <cdehaan> Evaluator? Considering implementing it?
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:31] <explody> pretty much, yes
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:45] <explody> I've looked into it a few times
[09-Jul-2008 01:19:05] <cdehaan> What others are you comparing it against?
[09-Jul-2008 01:19:25] <cdehaan> I'm in a similar state -- my organization currently uses Nagios, is looking for upgrade paths, and I'm supposed to be implementing Zenoss for them as a test.
[09-Jul-2008 01:22:25] <explody> yeah we use nagios as well
[09-Jul-2008 01:25:18] <cdehaan> What other options are you looking at?
[09-Jul-2008 01:39:48] <kso512> cdehaan: I think you can Lock a device, so that it won't change on the next remodel...
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:26] <cdehaan> kso512: I saw that... is that the proper way to do it, or is the idea really to have each device have it's own "local" template?
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:32] <kso512> cdehaan: or even just parts of a device, like the filesystems, network interfaces, etc
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:52] <cdehaan> You can lock portions?
[09-Jul-2008 01:41:25] <kso512> cdehaan: let me check...
[09-Jul-2008 01:41:53] <cdehaan> You're right, you can
[09-Jul-2008 01:42:33] <kso512> cdehaan:
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:04] <cdehaan> So is that the method normally used?
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:24] <kso512> cdehaan: making a special template would help when/if adding new devices.
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:28] <cdehaan> I guess my idea was more that one should customize it and have a template that was customized for each device/set of devices that are the same, instead of just going through and locking
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:33] <kso512> cdehaan: I'm not sure...
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:41] <cdehaan> kso512: OK, so how can I see all templates that are affecting a devices?
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:46] <cdehaan> Does the "templates" tab of a device list them all/
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:50] <kso512> cdehaan: I think your thinking is right.
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:07] <kso512> cdehaan: yep - and it should say where it inherited it from as well
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:13] <cdehaan> OK.
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:22] <cdehaan> So where can I view everything that each template entails?
[09-Jul-2008 01:46:41] <kso512> cdehaan: go to the device class (i.e. /Devices/Server/Linux) and then click on the Templates tab
[09-Jul-2008 01:46:46] <cdehaan> For example, I have one Cisco router added at /Devices/Network/Routers/Cisco/ROUTERNAME. It only shows one template, /Devices/Network//Routers/Cisco. Does this mean that's the only template, nothing is inherited from /Devices or /Devices/Network/Router?
[09-Jul-2008 01:47:56] <kso512> cdehaan: Navigate to /Devices/Network/Router/Cisco, then click on the Templates tab
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:15] <kso512> cdehaan: I have 6 rows listed on my install of 2.2
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:32] <cdehaan> Ok, I do as well.
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:45] <kso512> cdehaan: Is that what you were looking for?
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:50] <cdehaan> So all of those templates apply, how would I disable a particular inherited template for a particular device?
[09-Jul-2008 01:49:44] <cdehaan> like, say there are a bunch of interfaces monitored on said ROUTERNAME, but many of them aren't hooked up to anything, so they are generating warning statements
[09-Jul-2008 01:50:46] <kso512> cdehaan: Hrmm.. Not sure how to make them not inherit certain templates - there are no check boxes...
[09-Jul-2008 01:51:08] <cdehaan> kso512: Haha, sorry, I've roped you in to helping me.
[09-Jul-2008 01:51:45] <kso512> cdehaan: A template would only make sense then if all the devices had the same ports in use... And any new additions would require changing the template. For that case I'd use the lock...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:00] <kso512> cdehaan: Hehehe - no prob...! I learn from this too...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:35] <kso512> I'm also "evaluating" for our company...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:54] <kso512> I just wish I had the time to really dive in and learn it all, not just dabble and patch...
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:15] <cdehaan> Ok, so a template should essentially contain all possibilities for a set of devices (in this example, Cisco Routers, an already created template), and then the things that that device does not need should be removed and the section locked?
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:27] <kso512> cdehaan: yep
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:40] <cdehaan> OK, I suppose that makes sense.
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:55] <cdehaan> The only issue I see is where a particular service should be added back in to a device, I'm not sure the logistics of that operation
[09-Jul-2008 01:54:01] <cdehaan> But I suppose I can cross that bridge when I come to it
[09-Jul-2008 01:54:59] <cdehaan> I'm no Nagios expert by any means, but I guess I'm used to that way of thinking -- explicitly adding items, whereas Zenoss seems more like a "here's everything we see, remove what you don't want."
[09-Jul-2008 01:55:02] <kso512> cdehaan: unlock, remodel, tidy, lock
[09-Jul-2008 01:55:03] <cdehaan> Which makes equally as much sense.
[09-Jul-2008 02:03:42] <cdehaan> I see.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:00] <cdehaan> Cool. That makes sense.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:04] <cdehaan> Thank you for your help kso512.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:08] <cdehaan> I really appreciate it
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[09-Jul-2008 10:36:02] <flo_> All, can somebody explain me how I can define process monitoring via snmp during certain times during the day, or point me to a helpful docu/wiki/howto?
[09-Jul-2008 13:06:25] <TBKdan> Any easy ways to monitor an exchange cluster?
[09-Jul-2008 13:36:08] <flo_> nope, different porcesses
[09-Jul-2008 13:45:08] <Dockmaster> Hey all
[09-Jul-2008 13:45:27] <Dockmaster> I need some help configuring Zenwin, anyone help me?
[09-Jul-2008 13:47:00] <Dockmaster> Anyone?
[09-Jul-2008 13:47:21] <TBKdan> What are you trying to do?
[09-Jul-2008 13:51:06] <Dockmaster> I am trying to configure the "zeneventlogconfig", "zenwinconfig", "zenwinmodelerconfig" files, but I cannot find a guide on how to do so
[09-Jul-2008 13:53:13] <Dockmaster> ...any ideas?
[09-Jul-2008 13:56:04] <TBKdan> The only things I have for them are "monitor localhost"
[09-Jul-2008 13:56:18] <TBKdan> Don't know of any other options (never looked though)
[09-Jul-2008 14:00:54] <Dockmaster> Ok, thanks
[09-Jul-2008 14:31:53] <danny2> hi
[09-Jul-2008 14:34:35] <danny2> i'm trying to model a windows xp device. if i put the pc in the servers/windows device group i'm getting a list of installed software. if i put the pc in the discovered group i'm getting a "bad wmi state" error. has anyone an idea what i'm doing wrong ?
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[09-Jul-2008 15:38:39] <kso512> Hi all - Has anyone else seen an issue like this when saving changes to Alerting Rules...?
[09-Jul-2008 15:38:44] <kso512> Type: ConflictError
[09-Jul-2008 15:38:48] <kso512> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x6e27, class Products.ZenEvents.ActionRule.ActionRule)
[09-Jul-2008 15:54:25] <imperfect-> So is the svn verion working on making he google maps thing suck less?
[09-Jul-2008 15:54:26] <imperfect->
[09-Jul-2008 16:52:25] <TBKdan> What does "Domain Authentication Helper" plugin in zope provide?
[09-Jul-2008 16:52:44] <TBKdan> I mean, what kind of domain? AD? o.O
[09-Jul-2008 17:18:51] <cdehaan> hello! I could use some help. I have a ZenOSS install, and I'm trying to monitor a windows machine. I modeled it, and I get this error during modeling: WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler skipping CRDEHAAN has bad wmi state
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:12] <kso512> cdehaan: You have to make sure you've set up WMI on the device properly. There should be a Zenoss FAQ page regarding checking that...
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:38] <cdehaan> hello again kso512!
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:48] <kso512> cdehaan: also check the devices configuration in Zenoss to make sure you have the right user trying to authenticate
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:49] <cdehaan> OK, I'll take a look -- I couldn't find anything through Google search.
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:53] <kso512>
[09-Jul-2008 17:22:22] <duncan_> hey guys, quick question... I have set several nodes production level to maintenance and we still get snmp agent down events when they are turned off... did I miss something?
[09-Jul-2008 17:24:33] <kso512> cdehaan: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#ZenwinMonitoringWindows
[09-Jul-2008 17:24:48] <adytum-bot^> Title: FAQ (English) - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:16] <cdehaan> kso512: When I run the query locally, it appears to be working fine, I get a whole list of services dumped out
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:18] <kso512> duncan_: Not sure
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:46] <kso512> cdehaan: can you connect from another windows machine? May be a firewall blocking it...
[09-Jul-2008 17:28:36] <cdehaan> Yup, works fine from a remote machine.
[09-Jul-2008 17:35:22] <cdehaan> is there a log somewhere in Zenoss that will tell me exactly why this is failing?
[09-Jul-2008 17:36:11] <cdehaan> I do see these in the zenwin log
[09-Jul-2008 17:36:11] <cdehaan> 2008-07-09 11:46:40 DEBUG zen.zenwin: WMI problems on CRDEHAAN: skipping
[09-Jul-2008 17:38:13] <kso512> cdehaan: I don't know any more than that... I'm still working on getting it to work right too
[09-Jul-2008 17:39:12] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Have you cleared the event for that device and then retried it?
[09-Jul-2008 17:39:52] <TBKdan> Anybody installed python-ldap on the VM App?
[09-Jul-2008 17:40:52] <cdehaan> TBKdan: I haven't... by "clear" do you mean acknowledge? or move to history? or both?
[09-Jul-2008 17:42:26] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Move to history. You will get that skipping due to WMI problems until you do so.
[09-Jul-2008 17:43:17] <cdehaan> TBKdan: Then remodel?
[09-Jul-2008 17:43:23] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Yup.
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:21] <cdehaan> Very nice.
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:27] <cdehaan> Thanks, TBKdan!
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:35] <TBKdan> Np
[09-Jul-2008 17:46:35] <cdehaan> Another question then... do I have to assign the same username/password to all of my /Devices/Server/Windows devices through the zProperties there, or is it equally as acceptable to assign it at the device level zProperties?
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:25] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Device level zProperties for Windows devices. That's normal and what I do
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:37] <cdehaan> Awesome.
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:43] <cdehaan> This is a great help, thanks again TBKdan.
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:56] <cdehaan> Oh, one final question -- the Win Services I assign to a device will remain through a remodel, right?
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:14] <TBKdan> Lock them from deletion cdehaan
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:22] <cdehaan> OK, great. Thanks again!
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:22] <TBKdan> Just for safe measure.
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:25] <TBKdan> np
[09-Jul-2008 17:50:08] <TBKdan> Grr... vm app + ldap/ad auth = royal PITA
[09-Jul-2008 17:54:30] <kso512> no doubt - sounds rough
[09-Jul-2008 17:55:29] <TBKdan> mainly because the only package management is conary, so there is no easy way to get other libs on here (such as openldap). No gcc so I can't compile it.
[09-Jul-2008 17:59:48] <magnachef> I tried bulk adding devices with REST using IP. For some reason it is not using the SNMP system name for it's name, and keeps the IP as it's Name and IP. If I add it through the Zenoss "Add Device" page, then it works fine, making the system name the name of the device. Any thoughts on why this is?
[09-Jul-2008 18:05:27] <kso512> tbkdan: I've found that vm appliances are ok for testing/evaluating, but when you want to go production it's better to roll your own...
[09-Jul-2008 18:06:28] <imperfect-> So.
[09-Jul-2008 18:06:41] <imperfect-> Is the svn google map portlet better than the 2.2.0 one?
[09-Jul-2008 18:26:18] <TBKdan> kso512: Yeah... kidna thinking about it right now, but it is nice.
[09-Jul-2008 18:26:26] <TBKdan> s/kidna/kinda
[09-Jul-2008 19:20:16] <cccharles> It looks like there is no easy way to enable HTTPS for the console... do I really have to compile M2Crypto as per http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12991 to get this working?
[09-Jul-2008 19:20:31] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Modifying Zenoss for SSL encryption (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2008 19:21:05] <TBKdan> Just a quick thought, mod_proxy with SSL?
[09-Jul-2008 19:22:24] <cccharles> TBKdan: there is no easy, official method?
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:02] <cccharles> to be honest, I'm a little bit shocked that there isn't an HTTPS checkbox somewhere, at the very least in the Enterprise version (which I'm running)
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:03] <TBKdan> cccharles: Dunno, I never tried nor looked. Was just throwing it out there.
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:13] <cccharles> TBKdan: OK, thanks.
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:39] <cccharles> is this channel just for users, or are there Zenoss employees in here too?
[09-Jul-2008 19:24:06] <TBKdan> I think there are some... not completely sure though.
[09-Jul-2008 19:24:33] <cccharles> cool :-).
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[09-Jul-2008 20:01:29] <cccharles> so... is anybody who works at Zenoss in here right now? I'd still like some insight into configuring an HTTPS console.
[09-Jul-2008 20:12:21] <magnachef> not usually...mrayzenoss works for zenoss, but I haven't seen him around here in quite some time
[09-Jul-2008 20:12:44] <magnachef> the forums are usually a better spot
[09-Jul-2008 20:20:36] <cccharles> magnachef: thanks.
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[10-Jul-2008 07:45:58] <rad73> Does anyone have any ideas on how to add a new tab to the device information page... that section in the developers guide is empty
[10-Jul-2008 07:49:58] <rad73> I'd also like to remove a tab from it too.... and it's not clear to me yet how the tab templates (e.g. deviceSoftwareDetail.pt) are hooked together
[10-Jul-2008 10:09:16] <SniZ|work> hi, i have zenoss server on linux. and i have many win2k3 server with snmp, but in ALL servers i get this - Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on dial-in.parfum-ultra.local (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)
[10-Jul-2008 11:49:55] <rad73> Does anyone have any ideas on how to add a new tab to the device information page... that section in the developers guide is empty
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[10-Jul-2008 13:22:15] <SniZ|work> hi, i have zenoss server on linux. and i have many win2k3 server with snmp, but in ALL servers i get this - Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on dial-in.parfum-ultra.local (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)
[10-Jul-2008 13:36:40] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: You either need to install SNMP informant or use WMI to get memory info
[10-Jul-2008 13:57:55] <stevengong> Hi all, anyone can tell me where I can find a complete doc describing the expressions in "Command Templates" under Templates, like ${here/mount
[10-Jul-2008 13:58:04] <stevengong> ${here/mount} in ${zCommandPath}/zenplugin.py disk ${here/mount}
[10-Jul-2008 16:03:59] <jb> shouldn't 2.2.1 be out soon?
[10-Jul-2008 16:06:22] <ckrough> Anyone dealt with Internap devices in zenoss?
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[10-Jul-2008 17:10:33] <jief-> hi. im running 2.2 on RHEL5.2. When setting a maintenance window for a device, we still get alerted when we do work on said maintenance. I go to my device, click on the down arrow then more then administration. I create my maintenance there, make sure its enabled obviously
[10-Jul-2008 17:10:39] <jief-> that's with core 2.2
[10-Jul-2008 17:10:44] <jief-> anyone else having issues?
[10-Jul-2008 17:11:07] <ckrough> does the alert rules specify that the device has to be in "Production"
[10-Jul-2008 17:11:43] <jief-> yes
[10-Jul-2008 17:11:49] <jief-> production state = production
[10-Jul-2008 17:19:07] <jief-> this is a serious issue ..
[10-Jul-2008 19:02:35] <jief-> hi. could it be possible if you use custom production states it would screw up maintenance windows?
[10-Jul-2008 19:11:30] <ckrough> just make sure the number values (500, etc...) are in line with what you are expecting. it all boils down to the numbers in the end
[10-Jul-2008 19:14:14] <jief-> we have right now production: 1000, infrastructure: 900, test: 800, development: 700, maintenance: 300, decomissioned: -1
[10-Jul-2008 19:14:40] <jief-> is there a minimal time required be zen to process it? if i set it 5minutes in advance is it too short?
[10-Jul-2008 19:21:13] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to make the logging messages not reflect the object as red?
[10-Jul-2008 19:44:54] <jief-> i think you need to give it zen a good delay when you set a maintenance window
[10-Jul-2008 19:45:06] <jief-> simply setting it 4-5 mins prior doesnt seem to do it
[10-Jul-2008 19:47:39] <ckrough> Im not sure what the lead time needs to be, but I havent had that issue
[10-Jul-2008 19:47:57] <ckrough> imperfect: as red? you mean in the event list? red is critical.
[10-Jul-2008 19:48:08] <ckrough> you could changes its level
[10-Jul-2008 19:49:56] <thinkmassive> I just discovered zenoss as a sourceforge awards nominee and I happen to be looking for a very similar tool for work.... does zenoss have software license tracking or is it entirely hardware/network?
[10-Jul-2008 19:51:57] <magnachef> just hardware/network
[10-Jul-2008 19:52:39] <thinkmassive> so far I've only been looking at nagios but this looks like a better supported tool
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:05] <magnachef> in terms of commercial support, yeah
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:06] <explody> thinkmassive: do you want monitoring or asset/inventory control?
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:35] <thinkmassive> I'm also evaluating IRM for asset management, and a lot of the asset management tools include network monitoring but not to the extent available from zenoss or nagios
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:49] <thinkmassive> I really need both, and if they could be in one application then all the better
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:53] <explody> thinkmassive: check out ocsinventory and GLPI
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:53] <jief-> nagios is more flexible in my opinion
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:58] <thinkmassive> I hope I'm not too off-topic, stop me if I am
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:59] <magnachef> we actually created an in-house CMDB and integrated it into Zenoss
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:06] <jief-> we picked zenoss because it had peformance builtin
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:08] <jief-> so we could remove cacti
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:22] * magnachef still likes Cacti for reporting better
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:22] <thinkmassive> yeah, I like the built-in performance aspect as well
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:27] * explody does too
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:52] <thinkmassive> magnachef: did you also create a front-end for your CMDB or is it soley a db?
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:52] <jief-> i think 2 years down the road zenoss will be better
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:59] <explody> zenoss' graphs are too spread out...cacti doesn't clutter stats viewing with all the other data about a device like zenoss
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:00] <jief-> at this time, i miss some flexibility we had with nagios
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:10] <explody> jief-: I said that 2 years ago
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:17] <jief-> heh
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:18] <magnachef> we integrated it under the hardware tab
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:32] <thinkmassive> my employer would prefer something that has the option of commercial support, and nagios seems a little less likely to offer that
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:38] <jief-> sadly, unless you pay the big bucks, OSS monitoring ain't that great
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:42] <magnachef> so when you click on a device, then on the hardware tab, it'll show you all the info from our CMDB
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:57] <jief-> thinkmassive: what about commercial solutions based on nagios then?
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:06] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/product/
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:09] <thinkmassive> magnachef: roughly how much work was require for that development?
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:15] <adytum-bot^> Title: Overview - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:30] <magnachef> depends on how familiar you are with python/zope
[10-Jul-2008 19:59:03] <thinkmassive> heh probably not enough to justify choosing that over a ready-made solution
[10-Jul-2008 19:59:42] <jief-> if only you could use the nagios plugins in the OS tab instead of perf
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:17] <jief-> a simple TCP check is not enough, id like to be able to send SQL queries, LDAP binds, etc
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:35] <TBKdan> There are some ZenPacks for that kind of stuff
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:49] <jief-> i know
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:55] <jief-> but the packs don't replace the simple tcp check
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:56] <TBKdan> And man, found a bug in MS AD LDAP queries...
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:10] <TBKdan> It doesn't report back the user's primary group
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:12] <jief-> you just can't disable that. and it pollutes our logs
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:25] <magnachef> for inventory, also check out: http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:33] <adytum-bot^> Title: OCS Inventory NG - Welcome to OCS Inventory NG web site ! (at www.ocsinventory-ng.org)
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:04] <imperfect-> I'm trying to figureout how to make it reclassify log messages that really aren't emergencies
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:08] <imperfect-> so I get proper status lights
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:30] <jief-> imperfect-: i think you can create different even types and associate them to a severity
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:33] <jief-> but i never bothered
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:39] <jief-> we have a Splunk system for syslog
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:41] <jief-> much better
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:42] <imperfect-> jief: all my stuff is always red or orange
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:52] <jief-> imperfect-: hire me, ill make it all green
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:00] <imperfect-> the google map thing is kinda broken
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:08] <imperfect-> ah
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:21] <jief-> Splunk is teh way to go for logs honestly
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:26] <imperfect-> eh
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:31] <imperfect-> i wasn't that impressed with spunk tbh
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:36] <jief-> every company should take lessons of UI design from these guys
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:04] <jief-> we index gigs of logs with it daily from 4 locations, its kinda neat
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:11] <jief-> backed by a SAN
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:36] <imperfect-> neato
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:56] <imperfect-> Hrm
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:01] <TBKdan> I've been tasked to try and figure out a way to have machines that are in a certain OU either a) automatically add themselves or b) zenoss poll the OU and add them. Autodiscovery just does a ping scan, so that's not really what we're looking for.
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:06] <imperfect-> I wonder if I should make my syslog server seperate?
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:12] <jief-> we also have several filters running, so we get alerted when people try to portscan us for example
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:53] <jief-> TBKdan: is it a logical OU or physical with a subnet?
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:08] <TBKdan> jief-: Logical through Active Directory.
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:10] <jief-> because if your OUs are split by subnet, then you can autoadd then with autodiscovery
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:15] <TBKdan> I wish it was
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:16] <jief-> ah
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:18] <TBKdan>
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:30] <TBKdan> This net is a mess, no organization
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:37] <imperfect-> Anyone know how hard it is to move a zenoss install?
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:43] <jief-> is it only windows?
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:49] <TBKdan> Everything (workstations, printers, etc) are all on an unsubnetted class B
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:59] <TBKdan> There are like 3 non-windows boxes
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:08] <jief-> imperfect-: not too bad, just did a test run of a restore from 2.1.2 on debian etch to 2.2 on RHEL5, went well
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:13] <jief-> TBKdan: sucks to be you hehe
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:16] <TBKdan> lol
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:24] <TBKdan> Thanks
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:26] <jief-> maybe in that case a windows-based solution would be better
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:27] <imperfect-> jief: I basically just want to take what I've done and move it to another box
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:37] <imperfect-> jief: do i backup the current config and restore it at another location?
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:38] <jief-> imperfect-: use zenbackup and zenrestore
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:55] <TBKdan> jief-: Zenoss definitely does what we need, especially at that price
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:57] <jief-> imperfect-: test it first though, before you wipe your old install hehe
[10-Jul-2008 20:08:21] <jief-> zen aint perfect, but if i can fix the maintenance windows issue we have, we'll be able to live with it
[10-Jul-2008 20:08:28] <imperfect-> See
[10-Jul-2008 20:08:42] <imperfect-> I'm frustrated with it because there are little things wrong all over.
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:01] <jief-> same here
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:15] <imperfect-> I mean the google maps things is bad ass
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:16] <imperfect-> cept
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:28] <imperfect-> it shows location ID 90 with the same status info as site ID 900
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:42] <imperfect-> if you zoom in, you lose the roll over information as to what site you're pointing at
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:53] <jief-> on 2.1.2, a minute is not 60 seconds, its 100
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:15] <jief-> so if i wanted to delay 5 minutes before being paged, instead of 300 secs, i had to put in 500
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:18] <jief-> and 1500 for 15 mins
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:25] <imperfect-> oh and it's slow!
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:26] <imperfect-> =)
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:42] <imperfect-> quad core 8 gig
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:45] <imperfect-> and im forever waiting
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:46] <jief-> can't run it in vmware, thats for sure
[10-Jul-2008 20:11:31] <TBKdan> Working fine for me in VM
[10-Jul-2008 20:11:53] <TBKdan> Monitoring like 10 boxes added, 50 discovered
[10-Jul-2008 20:12:55] <jief-> we monitor 150 devices with it so far
[10-Jul-2008 20:13:04] <jief-> and that's like 2/3 of our network
[10-Jul-2008 20:14:24] <imperfect-> Can I get it to store it's database elsewhere?
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:04] <jief-> sure
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:20] <imperfect-> LOL
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:24] <imperfect-> Cuz it's under Event Manager
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:27] <imperfect-> Settings would be too easy
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:43] <jief-> well, im done for the day, cya
[10-Jul-2008 20:17:53] <ckrough> jeif: whats your message/hour load on splunk?
[10-Jul-2008 20:20:15] <ckrough> imperfect: it's a disk i/o monster. lots of rrd writes. more ram helps by giving it more buffer but that gets exhausted with a large number of devices.
[10-Jul-2008 20:20:24] <ckrough> RAID 1+0 and lots of spindles help
[10-Jul-2008 20:21:09] <imperfect-> ckrough: Ah
[10-Jul-2008 20:21:20] <imperfect-> ckrough: You know if zenrestore works?
[10-Jul-2008 20:21:25] <ckrough> havent used it myself
[10-Jul-2008 20:22:16] * imperfect- watches zeoctl go dot dot dot dot dot dot dot
[10-Jul-2008 20:25:53] <TBKdan> dot dot dot
[10-Jul-2008 20:26:13] <TBKdan> Well, I've got auth against AD working perfectly now
[10-Jul-2008 20:26:26] <TBKdan> Now to try and figure something out that will pull devices from an AD group
[10-Jul-2008 20:27:53] <ckrough> python + python-ldap + http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.0/ch05s01.html
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:07] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:32] <imperfect-> well
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:39] <imperfect-> moivng it to a 8 core box seems to have improved things
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:43] <TBKdan> ckrough: Was hoping to find something already
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:06] <ckrough> how many devices are you running on how many servers
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:28] <imperfect-> Who me?
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:45] <ckrough> aye
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:51] <imperfect-> Hardly any
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:54] <imperfect-> < 50
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:04] <imperfect-> 38.
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:09] <imperfect-> I've got prolly 1k
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:13] <imperfect-> I'm just getting started
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:35] <ckrough> was just wondering since you mentioned 8 core
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:41] <TBKdan> that's all for today, later
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:48] <ckrough> bye
[10-Jul-2008 22:33:50] <daMaestro> anyone have a chance to look at http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425 ?
[10-Jul-2008 22:33:57] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[10-Jul-2008 23:37:00] <daMaestro> are there any later releases then 2.2.0?
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[11-Jul-2008 01:39:43] <crashdummyMCH1> has anyone gotten the core version to work in a completely distributed environment? including zendisc?
[11-Jul-2008 04:15:27] <adytum-bot^> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Native LoadBalancing for Twisted Apps - 05 Jul, 10:04PM
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[11-Jul-2008 07:29:43] <EekZ`> :>
[11-Jul-2008 07:30:53] <EekZ`> ppl... do u know the way to go if u want to use zenoss also for cmdb for desktops. u see, i dont want to monitor the desktops, i just want to know the os, cpu and ram they have...
[11-Jul-2008 08:37:33] <rad73> Anyone know why I get the following error when trying to remove a zenpack from zenoss 2.2.0?
[11-Jul-2008 08:38:30] <rad73> AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'
[11-Jul-2008 09:54:11] <EekZ`> well its easy to add devices, walk the snmp, and then disable ping monitor and snmp. now the desktops are in the cmdb without monitoring them.
[11-Jul-2008 09:54:49] <EekZ`> do u guys know if there is a MIB to get more detailed information about the type of memory in a windows xp desktop? i have the amount of memory but not the type .. :/
[11-Jul-2008 13:08:41] <TBKdan> Is there a way to add a machine via command line?
[11-Jul-2008 13:15:38] <TBKdan> nvm
[11-Jul-2008 13:41:05] <EekZ`> sure
[11-Jul-2008 13:41:07] <EekZ`> read the docu
[11-Jul-2008 13:41:08] <EekZ`>
[11-Jul-2008 14:42:36] <trkemist> hey everyone
[11-Jul-2008 14:43:52] <trkemist> anyone here experience any issues with the zenoss counters?
[11-Jul-2008 14:44:07] <trkemist> I am having an issue with /perf/snmp and i haven't been able to find any good information explaining why.
[11-Jul-2008 14:44:14] <magnachef> snmp counters?
[11-Jul-2008 14:46:13] <trkemist> yeah on a lot of my cisco devices I get tons of events that say that OID values are bad for certain ATM layer
[11-Jul-2008 14:46:42] <daMaestro> i have the issue where filesystems are being calculated incorrectly
[11-Jul-2008 14:47:03] <daMaestro> we have a couple of ~75TB mounts that report something like 2.3TB with 1.4TB free
[11-Jul-2008 14:47:21] <trkemist> yeah weird thing is i've gone into the Cisco website and i've downloaded all the ATM and Interface mibs.. I was just thinking maybe someone had run into the issue before
[11-Jul-2008 14:47:32] <daMaestro> i'm actually reprovisioning with 2.1.3 right now to see if it's just a 2.2.0 bug
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:01] <jb> the MIB's have nothing to do with device polling
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:32] <trkemist> jb - really
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:37] <jb> yep
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:45] <jb> can you snmpwalk that OID?
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:57] <trkemist> jb - check out this weirdo error: Error reading value for "ATM1/0.132-aal5 layer" on <:D> (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.17 is bad)
[11-Jul-2008 14:49:04] <jb> can you snmpwalk that OID?
[11-Jul-2008 14:50:46] <trkemist> jb - i am not familiar with walking the OID. I know how to walk it based on actual MIBS like system
[11-Jul-2008 14:51:01] <trkemist> is it: snmpwalk -v2 -c <community> <ipaddress> <oid> ?
[11-Jul-2008 14:51:12] <jb> yes
[11-Jul-2008 14:51:27] <TBKdan1> Well this is interesting.. I changed the hostname on my box, now zenoss does not respond at all. It is listening to and responding to my HTTP request, but solely with an ACK and nothing else.
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:13] <jb> check the forums..
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:36] <TBKdan1> Ah, found it
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:38] <magnachef> in terms of the filesystem, are you using a SAN?
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:43] <TBKdan1> /etc/hosts
[11-Jul-2008 14:53:07] <magnachef> i.e - NetApp, etc
[11-Jul-2008 14:57:44] <trkemist> jb - by the way I also found that snmpwalk installed with the zenoss stack if you run it from the command line it gives you an error in terms of libsnmp not found. I am using YUM to install net-snmp now
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:01] <daMaestro> trkemist, did you use the rpm?
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:23] <trkemist> daMaestro - I used the stack installer for CentOS from the community link off of zenoss
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:25] <trkemist> I think it was a bin?
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:42] <daMaestro> yeah, yuck.
[11-Jul-2008 15:01:01] <daMaestro> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/
[11-Jul-2008 15:01:11] <daMaestro> use the distro provided packages when there are ones
[11-Jul-2008 15:01:15] <adytum-bot^> Title: Install on EL5 - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:13] <daMaestro> and *really* the rpm should Require: those packages
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:20] <daMaestro> i've yet to download the srpm and send off a patch
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:22] <trkemist> I tried
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:24] <daMaestro> so i can't complain too much
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:49] <trkemist> The guide is not complete
[11-Jul-2008 15:03:39] <daMaestro> well.... it is
[11-Jul-2008 15:03:51] <daMaestro> it's just the packages are flaky
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:08] <trkemist> the zenoss rpm does not install any username and password but it expects on in the database when in stall it
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:19] <trkemist> the guide should tell you what is the username and passowrd zenoss is expecting
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:21] <daMaestro> it has to be blank
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:34] <daMaestro> the guide assumes a fresh install of mysql-server from upstream
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:38] <trkemist> i followed it to the letter on a blank CentOS 5.2 installation and it blew up
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:42] <daMaestro> which has a username of root with no password
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:56] <trkemist> root with no password?
[11-Jul-2008 15:05:00] <trkemist> thats pretty crazy
[11-Jul-2008 15:05:23] <daMaestro> i just provisioned a 5.2 x86_64 build.
[11-Jul-2008 15:05:38] <daMaestro> i'll show you once zenoss is done destroying the host
[11-Jul-2008 15:06:19] <daMaestro> though, i am now installing zenoss 2.1.3, so ignore that
[11-Jul-2008 15:06:34] <daMaestro> we have hit bugs in 2.2.0 that i really don't feel like fixing right now
[11-Jul-2008 15:07:43] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3463
[11-Jul-2008 15:07:52] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3463 (at fpaste.org)
[11-Jul-2008 15:08:06] <daMaestro> this is from a fresh build using cobbler and centos 5.2 as the base and the centos 5.2 updates repo installed.
[11-Jul-2008 15:09:19] <daMaestro> the first bug that annoyed me with 2.2.0 was that it complained that localhost and localhost.localdomain point at the same location and was alerting
[11-Jul-2008 15:10:05] <daMaestro> the next few... well... some TALES expression is incorrect (which might be the same reason for the next bug, or rather a symptom) so the perf view b0rks and then our FS sizes are wrong
[11-Jul-2008 15:10:43] <daMaestro> btw, rm -rf /opt/zenoss* /var/lib/mysql/* if you are going to try that paste on and already installed system
[11-Jul-2008 15:10:52] <daMaestro> aka.. start from scratch with zenoss and mysql
[11-Jul-2008 15:11:01] <trkemist> damaestro - are you thinking that I should reinstall my CentOS 5.2 installation to get this working correctly?
[11-Jul-2008 15:11:44] <daMaestro> is it virtual? is it a PITA?
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:01] <daMaestro> it takes me 7 minutes to run an install (http://cobbler.et.redhat.com ;-))
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:08] <adytum-bot^> Title: Cobbler: Provisioning Made Simple (at cobbler.et.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:28] <daMaestro> trkemist, can you trash your mysql and zenoss install?
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:39] <trkemist> at this point I can
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:40] <daMaestro> the os itself should be fine
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:49] <trkemist> it only has 5 devices in it and I"m getting ready to load about 300
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:53] <daMaestro> oh, wait.. you used the stack
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:57] <daMaestro> yeah, i'd reprovision
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:07] <trkemist> cobbler?
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:09] <daMaestro> yuck @300 load
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:11] <trkemist> What is cobbler?
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:16] <daMaestro> cobbler == hot shit
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:17] <daMaestro> lol
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:20] <trkemist> really?
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:38] <trkemist> we are looking at purchasing Opsware Server Automation, but in the meantime this may be good
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:45] <daMaestro> yuck
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:56] <trkemist> does it come with Redhat EL5 or can we download it
[11-Jul-2008 15:14:11] <daMaestro> cobbler + spacewalk + puppet + func == awesomeness
[11-Jul-2008 15:14:41] * magnachef seconds puppet
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:09] <daMaestro> magnachef, have you seen http://cft.et.redhat.com/ ?
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:17] <adytum-bot^> Title: Cft -- configuration file tracking. (at cft.et.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:30] <magnachef> yeah, haven't used it though
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:51] <daMaestro> trkemist, https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ https://fedorahosted.org/func http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/ http://cft.et.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:00] <daMaestro> anyways.. that is off /topic here
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:01] <daMaestro> sorry.
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:18] <magnachef> eh, kind of...not totally off topic though
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:22] <adytum-bot^> Title: cobbler - Trac (at fedorahosted.org)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:24] <adytum-bot^> Title: func - Trac (at fedorahosted.org)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:25] <adytum-bot^> Title: Index (at reductivelabs.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:26] <adytum-bot^> Title: Cft -- configuration file tracking. (at cft.et.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:27] <adytum-bot^> Title: Spacewalk: Free & Open Source Linux Systems Management (at www.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:29:54] <daMaestro> well.. 2.1.3 properly displays our filessystem sizes
[11-Jul-2008 15:37:00] <daMaestro> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[11-Jul-2008 15:37:06] <daMaestro> 2.1.3 has that "bug" also
[11-Jul-2008 15:37:09] <daMaestro> annoying
[11-Jul-2008 15:42:29] <daMaestro> so, we can use zenoss as a central syslogd server?
[11-Jul-2008 15:42:47] <magnachef> yeah
[11-Jul-2008 15:42:55] <magnachef> I believe so
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:24] <daMaestro> cool
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:42] <daMaestro> trkemist, just a heads up ... i've had issues with 2.2.0 ... 2.1.3 is working nicely
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:49] <daMaestro> at least, i'm not seeing the nasty bugs from 2.2.0
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:57] <trkemist> trk- thanks!
[11-Jul-2008 15:49:49] <TBKdan1> Quick look at cobbler seems pretty nice o.O
[11-Jul-2008 15:49:59] <TBKdan1> May have to set up a VM to try that
[11-Jul-2008 16:40:47] <kso512> damaestro: what issues were you having with 2.2.0?
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:30] <daMaestro> kso512, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:37] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:39] <daMaestro> kso512, and the filesystem sizes are being reported incorrectly
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:51] <daMaestro> aka.. our 64TB FS is reporting something like 4TB
[11-Jul-2008 17:30:41] <magnachef> I have an issue with that on our NetApp servers
[11-Jul-2008 17:31:30] <magnachef> are you using NetApp?
[11-Jul-2008 17:34:00] <magnachef> check out this thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6301
[11-Jul-2008 17:34:15] <magnachef> probably has to do with not using 64 bit counters
[11-Jul-2008 17:34:16] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - NetApp fix for large volumes (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2008 17:48:22] <daMaestro> magnachef, not using a netapp no
[11-Jul-2008 17:48:41] <daMaestro> magnachef, we use ibrix
[11-Jul-2008 17:48:43] <daMaestro> ;-)
[11-Jul-2008 17:51:53] <magnachef> gotcha...well, I think the issue is the same - using 32 bit counters for that data
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:08] <trkemist> are the zenoss folks going to be looking at better ways to calculate layer2 or layer3 monitoring?
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:20] <kso512> damaestro: ah, thanks
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:28] <magnachef> I think there was a bug, and a fix for it
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:52] <magnachef> I remember seeing something in zenoss-dev forum about that
[11-Jul-2008 18:04:11] <daMaestro> ok.. i'm at the point where i need to add MIBs to a device
[11-Jul-2008 18:04:16] <daMaestro> how do i go about doing that?
[11-Jul-2008 18:04:21] <daMaestro> (the MIBs are installed)
[11-Jul-2008 18:05:50] <magnachef> you mean adding mibs to your SAN, or adding mibs to Zenoss so that it can translate OIDs that are sent from devices?
[11-Jul-2008 18:06:17] <daMaestro> the latter
[11-Jul-2008 18:06:55] <daMaestro> do i have to create a zenpack or something?
[11-Jul-2008 18:07:24] <magnachef> oh, it's pretty easy you can use zenmib
[11-Jul-2008 18:07:48] <magnachef> which takes the mib file and adds it to zenoss
[11-Jul-2008 18:08:23] <daMaestro> yeah, that is already done
[11-Jul-2008 18:08:27] <daMaestro> how do i apply them to a device
[11-Jul-2008 18:09:45] <magnachef> you need to go to /Devices/Server (or whatever class) then click on the templates tab
[11-Jul-2008 18:10:57] <daMaestro> ah, so i do need to create a template?
[11-Jul-2008 18:11:49] <magnachef> then you can modify a Performance template or copy or create a new one
[11-Jul-2008 18:13:26] <daMaestro> gah, so i can't just say "take this MIB and apply it to this device"?
[11-Jul-2008 18:13:38] <daMaestro> or even "take these MIBs and create a template"?
[11-Jul-2008 18:14:36] <magnachef> you need to setup subclasses and put the devices in that class
[11-Jul-2008 18:14:53] <daMaestro> ok, but i still need to manually create a template?
[11-Jul-2008 18:15:20] <magnachef> yeah, or you can select teh checkbox of one, and create a copy of it under another subclass
[11-Jul-2008 18:15:27] <magnachef> if you want to modify something
[11-Jul-2008 18:15:33] <magnachef> but yeah, you need to manually do it
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:00] <magnachef> and there you set the data sources, thresholds, graph definitions, etc
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:08] <daMaestro> yeah, blah
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:16] <magnachef> look at the ethernetCsmacd template
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:17] <daMaestro> manually == invest too much time
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:40] <magnachef> heh, well, you don't need to do it for each device, just when setting up the class...but yeah, I get what you're saying
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:52] <magnachef> there's a bunch by default
[11-Jul-2008 18:17:18] <magnachef> but...if there is a Zenpack for that device type, then it will automatically create the device class with the template all set
[11-Jul-2008 18:19:43] <daMaestro> it looks like i really need to be using nothing but zenpacks
[11-Jul-2008 18:19:52] <daMaestro> as i am able to add MIBs to zenpacks with ease
[11-Jul-2008 18:19:54] <magnachef> that's the ideal way
[11-Jul-2008 18:50:48] <daMaestro> is zenoss spending any time lobbing companies to develop/define zenpacks?
[11-Jul-2008 18:51:38] <magnachef> doubtful...they build their own for the Enterprise version
[11-Jul-2008 18:51:49] <magnachef> and rely on the community for the Core version
[11-Jul-2008 18:52:11] <magnachef> ...although they do include some Zenoss built zenpacks into the core distro
[11-Jul-2008 19:13:19] <TBKdan1> What exactly does zenoss use mysql for?
[11-Jul-2008 19:14:53] <TBKdan1> events?
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:04] <magnachef> yep
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:12] <magnachef> I believe that's it
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:15] <TBKdan1> Ok, is the mysql user pass configurable?
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:33] <magnachef> yeah, I believe so
[11-Jul-2008 19:17:01] <TBKdan1> Any ideas where? o.O
[11-Jul-2008 19:17:16] <magnachef> not sure...there's probably something on the wiki or on the forums
[11-Jul-2008 19:17:58] <TBKdan1> Looking around
[11-Jul-2008 19:36:54] <kso512> TBKdan1: on the left bar at the bottom is Event Manager. click on that and you can configure the mysql user
[11-Jul-2008 19:37:38] <kso512> (at least on 2.2)
[11-Jul-2008 19:38:01] <kso512> (oh, and 2.1.3)
[11-Jul-2008 19:40:33] <TBKdan1> Ah, thanks kso512
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[11-Jul-2008 20:01:40] <TBKdan1> Wow, I tried to burn a CD on my laptop, locked the laptop up AND the windows machines on the local switch here. o.O
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[12-Jul-2008 05:33:47] <Ozux> hi, any body can help me about CMDB concept? I read wikipedia and some docs in internet, but can't under stand is it Database format? ...? ...? In fact I can't realize what's this exactly
[12-Jul-2008 06:17:41] <stevengong_> hi there, anyone knows how to change the code for ZenJMX pack to support zenoss 2.2?
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[12-Jul-2008 16:20:08] <gentooer> hello
[12-Jul-2008 16:20:21] <gentooer> is there any irc chan for networking community in freenode ?
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[13-Jul-2008 10:49:30] <lacin> hi,
[13-Jul-2008 10:50:24] <lacin> I installed new ZenPack (Windows WMI) and now I can't get Perf graphs! Any experience?
[13-Jul-2008 11:11:18] <lacin> is it possible to use Zenpackof el5 in debian?
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[14-Jul-2008 09:46:27] <mf2ng> bleh, removing zenpack seems bit of too hard...
[14-Jul-2008 09:46:34] <mf2ng> TypeError: remove() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)
[14-Jul-2008 10:49:39] <rad73> anyone have any experience adding tabs to the device view... I've managed to modify the factory_type_information from a zenpack to remove and add the tabs
[14-Jul-2008 10:50:00] <rad73> but when I click on the new tab (I've already created the .pt file for the new tab) I get a zenoss error with resource not found....
[14-Jul-2008 10:50:13] <rad73> seems there needs to be a way to register the template or something
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[14-Jul-2008 12:39:47] <Johnny5> Hello all!
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[14-Jul-2008 12:59:18] <chicago312> anyone here that can check, http://update.zenoss.com/conaryrc: Service unavailable
[14-Jul-2008 14:45:38] <TBKdan> Swweeeettt.. add machines in AD via group policy
[14-Jul-2008 15:08:53] <TBKdan> When Zenoss is installed via RPM, does it just generate a random password for the zenoss user?
[14-Jul-2008 15:14:46] <nemo_> you been hanging here for what 1 or 2 months ?
[14-Jul-2008 15:15:05] <nemo_> about time you read the docs instead of troubling everyone to solve things for you ?
[14-Jul-2008 15:33:23] <TBKdan> If someone knows it, a simple yes/no is all it takes..
[14-Jul-2008 15:33:36] <TBKdan> And no, less than a month.
[14-Jul-2008 15:34:29] <TBKdan> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ Very informative... doesn't mention anything about the Zenoss user.
[14-Jul-2008 15:34:44] <adytum-bot^> Title: Install on EL5 - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Jul-2008 15:35:22] <TBKdan> Sorry, perhaps my question was not clear. The zenoss system user, not web user
[14-Jul-2008 15:35:35] <TBKdan> As in, what the daemon runs as.
[14-Jul-2008 15:48:02] <nemo_> i let you RTFM regardless , and yes i know the answer, but guess what , i read the manual too
[14-Jul-2008 15:52:10] <TBKdan> So you've found what it sets the system user pass to with the RPM? I see tons of docs on the web user pass, but not the system user pass. If I had found it, then I wouldn't have asked.
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[14-Jul-2008 15:57:48] <nemo_> admin zenoss
[14-Jul-2008 15:57:59] <nemo_> have a nice day
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:02] <TBKdan> that is the web admin pass
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:09] <TBKdan> Not the system user (as in the linux user the daemon runs as)
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:32] <nemo_> so read up about it
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:37] <nemo_> later gator
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:40] <TBKdan> There is no documentation
[14-Jul-2008 16:02:44] <vitech> if you use terminal you can su into zenoss from root
[14-Jul-2008 16:04:22] <TBKdan> vitech: Yeah, but I'm planning on locking down root from ssh. I guess at this point just reset the pass since it's not documented (was also just curious a bit).
[14-Jul-2008 16:05:12] <vitech> ah i got you
[14-Jul-2008 16:41:03] <chicago312> anyone know what is wrong with http://update.zenoss.com/conaryrc: Service unavailable
[14-Jul-2008 16:42:53] <TBKdan> chicago312: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6646 You're not the only one. Dunno what happened.
[14-Jul-2008 16:43:09] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - conary update down ? (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Jul-2008 16:47:52] <chicago312> that is me
[14-Jul-2008 16:48:20] <TBKdan> Is it possible to change the default Network Map network. I have modified Products/ZenWidgets/skins/zenui/flex/ZenNetMap.mxml but the changes never show (actually, when I try to use a browser that has never seen it so it can't have it cached, it flat out doesn't load the swf).
[14-Jul-2008 16:52:59] <TBKdan> I found the option in the user's preference, but I'd like to make it the default for all users too.
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[14-Jul-2008 18:34:53] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "lo" on linux_server.example.tld (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.1 is bad)
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:04] <daMaestro> is it a known issue with loop interfaces?
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:10] <daMaestro> zenoss core 2.1.3
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:28] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifInErrors" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14 is bad)
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:29] <daMaestro> etc.
[14-Jul-2008 19:07:15] <TBKdan> daMaestro: Could be completely unrelated, but I just removed VMWare server from one of my machines which in turn removed two virtual network devices off the machine. The result was some errors similar to what you just posted. Perhaps make sure snmp is actually reporting stats for the lo device?
[14-Jul-2008 19:12:37] <daMaestro> TBKdan, it's very possible it's not
[14-Jul-2008 19:24:31] <daMaestro> is there any way to set a zoom level for the maps?
[14-Jul-2008 19:25:00] <daMaestro> basically, we have a "nar" location (north america region)
[14-Jul-2008 19:25:08] <daMaestro> and i'd like the dashboard to show just the IS
[14-Jul-2008 19:25:10] <daMaestro> US*
[14-Jul-2008 19:26:34] <daMaestro> ah, i can set base location
[14-Jul-2008 19:26:35] <daMaestro> good.
[14-Jul-2008 19:48:28] <mrayzenoss> anyone interested in me trying to get some official developer time on IRC?
[14-Jul-2008 19:48:41] <magnachef> I think that'd be a good thing
[14-Jul-2008 19:48:57] <magnachef> regularly schedule time slots for developers to be on the channel
[14-Jul-2008 19:49:08] <mrayzenoss> I'm shooting for an hour, probably 11am EST
[14-Jul-2008 19:49:18] <mrayzenoss> working on the schedule for a day
[14-Jul-2008 19:50:23] <mrayzenoss> I'll be sure to announce it here, the blog and the forums in advance
[14-Jul-2008 19:51:06] <mrayzenoss> I figure 11am EST lets Europe and the US west coast attend (sorry Asia)
[14-Jul-2008 19:52:45] <TBKdan> Sounds good to me
[14-Jul-2008 20:19:16] <mrayzenoss> ok, looks like Tuesday of next week, I'll have announcements
[14-Jul-2008 20:41:10] <MajereDB8> hi, i had a quick question about alert e-mails in zenoss... i'd like to send out an alert e-mail that includes one of the fields generated by an snmp trap and listed under the "details" tab... is there any documentation as to how i could do that? i can see how to paste something from the event fields (e.g. evid, device, etc) but not so much for the event details
[14-Jul-2008 21:25:24] <MajereDB8> nevermind, i rtfm.
[14-Jul-2008 21:52:00] <MajereDB8> hi, if anyone is around, i'm trying to utilize the zenmail script, but i'm unsure as to how to call it from within zenoss. any suggestions about where i could look for instruction would be very helpful. thanks!
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[15-Jul-2008 01:15:07] <MajereDB8> hi, does anyone here have any experience using zenpop3?
[15-Jul-2008 03:17:31] <teferi1> Hello everyone. Sorry to bother, but I've got a question about zenoss graphing tool. Is it bound to RRDtools only?
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[15-Jul-2008 06:06:49] <Ozux> I want to cionfig zenos to show (read-only) every thing without authentication, we need this for our Internal network that every one is trusted and there is no route to external.
[15-Jul-2008 06:06:58] <Ozux> s/coinfig/config
[15-Jul-2008 08:08:30] <rad73> I've created a snmp collector plugin in an eggpack but when I add it to the zCollectorPlugins property for a device I get an error that the new plugin can't be found when I run the zenmodeler
[15-Jul-2008 08:08:44] <rad73> anyone know anything about how the modeler loads the collector plugins?
[15-Jul-2008 13:37:06] <cccharles> Does anybody here use Zenoss with SNMP v3?
[15-Jul-2008 13:40:44] <rad73> cccharles yes
[15-Jul-2008 13:41:24] <rad73> Does anyone know if there is any documentation describing how the plugin collectors map the data back onto a device?
[15-Jul-2008 13:42:05] <rad73> I can see the data getting pulled in through my snmp collector plugin but I can't seem to find where it puts it within the device
[15-Jul-2008 13:42:49] <cccharles> rad73: where do you set the user name? I can find settings for the authpassword, privpassword, snmp version etc., but no user name
[15-Jul-2008 13:43:08] <cccharles> (the docs aren't terribly helpful with this...)
[15-Jul-2008 13:43:51] <rad73> I presume you're looking at the zProperties for the device then
[15-Jul-2008 13:44:01] <rad73> the username is there.... just labelled funny.... let me find it
[15-Jul-2008 13:44:44] <cccharles> the zProperties for the class, actually... I can't get the device added.
[15-Jul-2008 13:44:54] <rad73> cccharles it's: zSnmpSecurityName
[15-Jul-2008 13:45:39] <rad73> and zSnmpAuthPassword for the password
[15-Jul-2008 13:45:51] <rad73> zSnmpAuthType for the hashing method
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:09] <rad73> and zSnmpVer to set v 3
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:18] <cccharles> hrm...
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:29] <cccharles> rad73: thanks, but I've tried that already.
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:46] <rad73> it worked for me.... do u use encryption too?
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:51] <cccharles> yes.
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:03] <rad73> I've not tried it with encryption
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:13] <cccharles> I can snmpget from the command-line
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:16] <cccharles> OK, thanks.
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:41] <cccharles> It looks like it *should* work--it has zSnmpPrivPassword and zSnmpPrivType...
[15-Jul-2008 13:48:24] <cccharles> you didn't have to change any of the v1/2 settings, did you? like the communities and stuff?
[15-Jul-2008 13:48:55] <rad73> where have you set the zProperties?
[15-Jul-2008 13:48:59] <rad73> I set them on /Devices
[15-Jul-2008 13:49:37] <rad73> cccharles well I set the snmp community strings
[15-Jul-2008 13:49:39] <cccharles> I tried that, then reset them to the defaults and set them on /Devices/Server/Linux, which is what I'm currently trying to add
[15-Jul-2008 13:49:57] <rad73> are you manually adding the devices or using discovery?
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:09] <cccharles> to what? I don't think SNMP v3 uses community strings anymore.
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:13] <cccharles> manual.
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:36] <rad73> I just set them to public/private
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:44] <rad73> dunno if they're used or not
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:50] <rad73> I added my devices manually
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:59] <rad73> but my zProperties are on /Devices
[15-Jul-2008 13:51:29] <cccharles> OK, thanks.
[15-Jul-2008 13:51:40] <cccharles> maybe I'll try disabling encryption and seeing if that works at least.
[15-Jul-2008 13:52:47] <rad73> sounds like a good plan, I always try and get things working at the most basic level first
[15-Jul-2008 13:53:14] <cccharles> so do I, but I got snmpget working on the command-line, so I figured I was all set :-)
[15-Jul-2008 13:54:01] <rad73> I've spent quite a few days trying to get zenoss to do what I want.... and still working on it
[15-Jul-2008 13:54:19] <cccharles> that's usually how it goes
[15-Jul-2008 13:55:22] <cccharles> you don't happen to know which of the logs might have better detailed error messages than "snmp not found on ip a.b.c.d", do you?
[15-Jul-2008 13:55:26] <cccharles> there are tons of them
[15-Jul-2008 14:00:59] <cccharles> ah... event.log
[15-Jul-2008 14:01:08] <cccharles> it helps if you grep for the IP address, and not the host name :-)
[15-Jul-2008 14:02:05] <cccharles> and apparently the error messages there are no better.
[15-Jul-2008 14:04:43] <rad73> lol ur learning fast cccharles
[15-Jul-2008 14:05:17] <rad73> sadly it seems I've had an equally informative selection of different problems
[15-Jul-2008 14:07:15] <cccharles> I'd help if I could :-)
[15-Jul-2008 14:07:31] <cccharles> you haven't got the web GUI working over SSL (HTTPS), have you?
[15-Jul-2008 14:08:06] <cccharles> it looks like you need to compile Zope yourself, which is a little crazy.
[15-Jul-2008 14:08:37] <cccharles> (especially since we paid for an "Enterprise" product... HTTPS should be a checkbox away, or even a modified config file)
[15-Jul-2008 14:27:07] <jamesc> I'd like to have a "plan B" for alerting me in the event that email isn't working. Paging isn't an option mainly because hardly anyone in the UK still supplies pagers, let alone SNPP support. So I'd instead like to find some alternate path to get an SMS out. Right now I'm looking at a FoxBox SMS device but to use that I'd need to call an arbitary script in ZenOSS as part of the alerting process.
[15-Jul-2008 14:28:04] <jamesc> Is such a thing possible in ZenOSS as it stands right now or would I need to make it a feature request?
[15-Jul-2008 14:33:51] <cccharles> jamesc: I'm a newbie, but I suspect that a ZenPack (basically a plugin) could do that... I'm not sure how to make one, though, or if one exists already
[15-Jul-2008 14:47:40] <jamesc> looking at it, I think I could do it as an event command - set up an event command which triggers the "send SMS through the device" where severity = critical.
[15-Jul-2008 14:50:11] <Quadro> i just wrote my own script, which works exactly like SNPP command for Zenoss, but does SMPP instead
[15-Jul-2008 14:50:57] <Quadro> and so, seamlessly have upgraded to SMS
[15-Jul-2008 15:00:00] <jamesc> quadro: would that require specific support from your mobile phone provider?
[15-Jul-2008 15:00:39] <jamesc> and surely it breaks if your border router fails for whatever reason?
[15-Jul-2008 15:29:15] <twm1010> Is anyone monitoring an OSX 10.3 host w/Zenoss?
[15-Jul-2008 15:34:57] <twm1010> Anyone?
[15-Jul-2008 15:36:24] <magnachef> not I
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:05] <magnachef> I'm assuming you can get net-snmp on it
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:16] <magnachef> or however else you would monitor a BSD server
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:23] <twm1010> well it comes with it
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:33] <twm1010> but on 10.3 it doesn't appear that the UCD module for memory monitoring is loaded
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:52] <twm1010> looks like i'll have to update the net-snmp package on the boxes... giving that a whirl, but what a pain in the butt
[15-Jul-2008 15:38:00] <magnachef> ahh, ok. See about comiling it yourself, or find someone who has compiled it with those flags
[15-Jul-2008 15:38:24] <twm1010> indeed... about to do so on a test box.
[15-Jul-2008 15:38:32] <magnachef> yeah...I'm sure someone, somewhere on the intertubes has a good snmp version with the proper flags
[15-Jul-2008 15:41:35] <twm1010> I could just copy the version from a 10.4 box...
[15-Jul-2008 15:41:40] <twm1010> hoping that won't crash
[15-Jul-2008 15:41:58] <magnachef> I'd be worried about that :-)
[15-Jul-2008 15:42:34] <twm1010> its a test box, what do i care?
[15-Jul-2008 15:56:45] <twm1010> bahh missing files everywhere :|
[15-Jul-2008 16:00:49] <twm1010> i can't compile it either, too many dependencies missing
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:04] <twm1010> i'd need to install the developer tools on each mac... maybe the MRTG plug-in will be easier
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:13] <magnachef> yeah, a good amount of differences with 10.3 and 10.4
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:31] <magnachef> you could have zenoss monitor via ssh
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:33] <magnachef> and not snmp
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:47] <twm1010> hrmm... thats a thought, I've never done that method before.
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:07] <twm1010> then do a command datasource, i imagine?
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:17] <magnachef> yeah
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:25] <magnachef> I've never done ssh monitoring
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:31] <magnachef> but sounds like a good situation for it
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:47] <twm1010> i'd need to install the zenoss-plugins package, if i remember
[15-Jul-2008 16:33:55] <daMaestro> how do we put a device into maintenance mode?
[15-Jul-2008 16:33:55] <daMaestro> aka.. scheduled downtime
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:15] <twm1010> just one device?
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:17] <twm1010> or a group?
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:25] <daMaestro> ah, i see.. maintenance window
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:37] <daMaestro> how about just a button i can say "yeah yeah, i'm rebuilding this server"?
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:39] <twm1010> you can do maintenance windows all over the place, it can get confusing if they overlap
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:43] <daMaestro> yeah
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:51] <daMaestro> it's for a set of devices in a group
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:55] <twm1010> then edit the server on the far right tab, can't rmember the name and change the production state
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:00] <daMaestro> but the whole group is not down
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:25] <twm1010> Then make a second group
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:30] <daMaestro> ah, production state to Maintenance?
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:34] <twm1010> right
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:37] <twm1010> play with it.
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:44] <daMaestro> well.. it's in the proper group.. i'm just rebuilding them
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:48] <daMaestro> cobbler++
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:53] <daMaestro> cobbler++ # making my life easier
[15-Jul-2008 16:36:32] <daMaestro> production state -> maintenance was what i'm looking for i think
[15-Jul-2008 16:36:37] <daMaestro> twm1010, does that stop all alerts?
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:14] <twm1010> That would depend on your alerting criteria
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:21] <twm1010> mine only sends when production state = production
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:27] * daMaestro goes to look
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:32] <daMaestro> i think that is what i have it set to
[15-Jul-2008 16:39:00] <daMaestro> yup, cool
[15-Jul-2008 16:56:38] <gbkyle> hey guys, how do i turn off autodiscovery of specific networks? lets say 192.168.4.x and 192.168.7.x.. but I want the rest being discovered
[15-Jul-2008 16:59:46] <gbkyle> I mean will just deleting the network out of the network lists do it?
[15-Jul-2008 16:59:54] <gbkyle> or will the collector readd it
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:19] <twm1010> go to each of those subnetworks
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:22] <twm1010> choose zProperties
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:28] <twm1010> change zAutoDiscover to false
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:43] <gbkyle> thank you
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:44] <twm1010>
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:45] <gbkyle> appreciate it
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:32] <gbkyle> twm1010: It seems as though if check that specific subnet, and change its properties
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:36] <gbkyle> the change reflects all subnet's
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:52] <twm1010> Hrmmm...
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:53] <gbkyle> I checked off one, changed it to false, and all the other were false as well.
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:54] <twm1010> one sec
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:56] <gbkyle> Ok.
[15-Jul-2008 17:04:23] <twm1010> works for me, remember zProperties flow downward
[15-Jul-2008 17:04:36] <twm1010> did you perhaps set this on /Network instead of /Network/Yoursubnetgoeshere ?
[15-Jul-2008 17:06:07] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question... i'm trying to use zenpop3 as a daemon in order to convert e-mail responses into events, which i'd like to use in order to acknowledge e-mail alerts. i've got zenpop3 to log into my e-mail account and parse the mail, but it's not generating an event. could someone point me in the right direction?
[15-Jul-2008 17:06:33] <gbkyle> Weird, I guess it took a little bit to reflect the changes.. think its working now
[15-Jul-2008 17:06:48] <MajereDB8> basically i've generated a zenpop configuration file listing my e-mail address/pass/etc and have run zenpop3 start from the shell
[15-Jul-2008 17:11:24] <twm1010> Majere: i'd hit the forum with that question
[15-Jul-2008 17:12:32] <MajereDB8> twm1010: will do, just thought i'd try here while i was on. thanks.
[15-Jul-2008 17:54:39] <gbkyle> Deleting a device gives me an error : AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'deleteDevice'
[15-Jul-2008 17:54:47] <gbkyle> anyone else get this lol
[15-Jul-2008 17:59:29] <gbkyle> seen it on the forums as well, no resolutions yet i guess
[15-Jul-2008 18:14:16] <MAHerron> hello all
[15-Jul-2008 18:14:34] <MAHerron> is there a way to do an SNMP GET from the transform?
[15-Jul-2008 18:31:07] <MAHerron> anyone awake?
[15-Jul-2008 18:40:22] <MAHerron> anyone paying attention to this channel?
[15-Jul-2008 19:38:12] <MAHerron> anyone listening?
[15-Jul-2008 19:38:20] <MAHerron> s there a way to do an SNMP GET from the transform??
[15-Jul-2008 19:59:52] <TBKdan> I listen from time to time o.O
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[15-Jul-2008 23:12:25] <otakup0pe> :v so quick question.... any reason uptime would show as unknown on a linux box
[15-Jul-2008 23:17:41] <boingolov> I apologize if this is a really dumb question, but I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction anyway. I am using net-snmp snmpd on a solaris 10 box with sparc III processors in it. I'm running zenoss and have added the "device" (sun box) and it now correctly recognizes most of the important aspects of the system, including file systems, loads etc. one slight annoyance is that it doesn't recognize what type of CPU is in the machine
[15-Jul-2008 23:18:28] <boingolov> not that this is a deal breaker by any stretch, but for instance I can see all the CPU's listed in our x86 machines and it would be nice to be able to tell what type/ how many cpu's are in our sparc based machines as well
[15-Jul-2008 23:18:41] <boingolov> is this a shortcoming of net-snmpd ? or is this something on the zenoss end?
[15-Jul-2008 23:20:16] <boingolov> I'm quite new to snmp in general, so I'm still trying to get my mind around all this stuff
[15-Jul-2008 23:22:57] <boingolov> ahh, looks like that info isn't present when I do snmpwalk , so I guess it stands to reason zenoss wouldn't know about it
[15-Jul-2008 23:31:34] <boingolov> ahh, okay, the MIB file on the solaris box is wacky
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:23] <boingolov> or at least the version of net-snmp
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:31] <boingolov> nice talking with you boingolov
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:33] <boingolov> np, boingolov
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:35] <boingolov> later boingolov!
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[16-Jul-2008 00:05:01] <kso512> lol at boingolov
[16-Jul-2008 00:56:07] <MajereDB8> hey, is anyone here familiar with using the zenpop3 program?
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[16-Jul-2008 13:03:18] <MAHerron> anybody awake?
[16-Jul-2008 13:05:35] <TBKdan> Morning
[16-Jul-2008 13:05:50] <MAHerron> hello there
[16-Jul-2008 13:06:02] <TBKdan> hi
[16-Jul-2008 13:06:05] <MAHerron> is there any way to do an snmp get in a tranform?
[16-Jul-2008 13:08:20] <TBKdan> MAHerron: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch10s15.html ?
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[16-Jul-2008 14:59:13] <ckrough> anyone get frequent "Unable to read processes" warnings for their collectors?
[16-Jul-2008 14:59:23] <ckrough> in a distributed zenoss environment
[16-Jul-2008 15:59:06] <MajereDB8> hey, is anyone around who is familiar with zenpop3.py? i'll post on the board, but just thought i'd ask before hand
[16-Jul-2008 17:10:39] <boingolov> I keep getting an issue where zenoss is telling me that heartbeats aren't working for pretty much every service on the system (zenwin, zentrap , etc) but I can see them running
[16-Jul-2008 17:10:42] <boingolov> any thoughts?
[16-Jul-2008 17:10:44] <boingolov> nothing at all in the logs
[16-Jul-2008 17:19:15] <TBKdan> boingolov: Have you tried clearing heartbeats in event manager?
[16-Jul-2008 17:20:37] <boingolov> actually I just deleted the local device, then recreated it using the hostname of a real IP (i.e., not localhost) and it seems to be working better now. not sure if just the deleting the device, which as a side effect did clear all the heartbeats / past events, did the trick or if it was some problem with having the collector as localhost as well as a device called localhost
[16-Jul-2008 17:20:58] <boingolov> now, on to the next issue
[16-Jul-2008 17:21:13] <TBKdan> lol
[16-Jul-2008 17:21:43] <boingolov> anyway, it's flagging that /mnt/cdrom is past the threshold for disk space. while I appreciate its attention to detail, obviously I need to tell it to exclude this mountpoint
[16-Jul-2008 17:21:48] <boingolov> what's the best place to look into doing that?
[16-Jul-2008 17:22:57] <boingolov> I suppose I could do it at the snmpd.conf level, but is there an easy way to do this with zenoss ?
[16-Jul-2008 17:23:32] <TBKdan> boingolov: Try... Go to the device -> OS tab, click the /mnt/cdrom filesystem, go to template, create local copy, then go into that copy and delete the threshold
[16-Jul-2008 17:24:37] <boingolov> cool. so then can I apply that template somehow to the entire "class" , in this case linux boxes?
[16-Jul-2008 17:24:58] <TBKdan> Oh, so it's not just one system?
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:05] <boingolov> well, for now, yes
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:13] <boingolov> but there are about 12 or so that will have the exact same convention
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:30] <boingolov> I'm just now experimenting with several boxes, one of each OS type
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:43] <boingolov> all of the linux boxes use /mnt/cdrom
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:06] <boingolov> so it would be nice if I could figure out how to exclude this mountpoint for all of type /Servers/Linux
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:09] <TBKdan> Do you need to monitor the filesystem?
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:18] <boingolov> yes, just not /mnt/cdrom
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:32] <TBKdan> Ah
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:34] <TBKdan> Here we go
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:50] <TBKdan> Go to Devices/Server/Linux -> zProperties
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:55] <TBKdan> zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:58] <TBKdan> Also zFileSystemMapIgnoreTypes
[16-Jul-2008 17:27:13] <TBKdan> Unless that doesn't do what it sounds like, it should do the trick for ya
[16-Jul-2008 17:27:50] <boingolov> thank you very much. definitely getting me closer to the goal !
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:07] <TBKdan> w00t. Hope it helps
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:09] <boingolov> now I only have a about a bajillion mib files to hunt down and try to map heh
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:13] <TBKdan> lol
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:15] <TBKdan> good luck
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:16] <boingolov> wee
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:19] <boingolov> thanks, I'll need it
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:22] <TBKdan>
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[16-Jul-2008 17:48:14] <boingolov> by the way, so far so good on that, also looks like that zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames supports regexes
[16-Jul-2008 17:48:19] <boingolov> very very cool
[16-Jul-2008 17:48:25] <boingolov> thanks again for pointing me in the right direction
[16-Jul-2008 18:08:45] <TBKdan> Glad to help
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[16-Jul-2008 18:54:10] <teletype> I'm getting the dreaded NT_STATUS_NET_WRITE_FAULT error when trying to model a windows device via WMI. already checked google, forums, etc, to no avail. My credentials are fine, yet wmic on the command line gives rpc fault: DCERPC_FAULT_ACCESS_DENIED. Am using a local admin account... any ideas?
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[16-Jul-2008 19:29:01] <TBKdan> teletype: Any weird characters in the pass? Including domain in login name?
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[16-Jul-2008 19:31:18] <teletype> nope
[16-Jul-2008 19:31:47] <teletype> and it's not in a domain any more. tried it with just Administrator, with WORKGROUP/Administrator, with a backslash etc
[16-Jul-2008 19:31:57] <teletype> with hostname\administrator, all combos
[16-Jul-2008 19:39:16] <TBKdan> teletype: Try .\Administrator
[16-Jul-2008 20:20:41] <otakup0pe> how do you change the scale for graphs. the data i'm graphing from zenplugin disk is off by an order of magnitute
[16-Jul-2008 20:23:39] <otakup0pe> 953m is showing as 953k etc
[16-Jul-2008 20:40:00] <boingolov> I keep getting a segmentation fault when trying to do an zenmib (seg fault comes from smidump)
[16-Jul-2008 21:18:02] <malbon_> teletype: check that DCOM is allowed from remote machines.
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[16-Jul-2008 21:21:34] <malbon> teletype: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/4c9a2873-2010-4dbb-b9dd-6a7d1e275f0f1033.mspx?mfr=true
[16-Jul-2008 21:21:48] <adytum-bot^> Title: Microsoft Corporation (at technet2.microsoft.com)
[16-Jul-2008 21:44:57] <boingolov> okay, zenmib uses the MIBDIRS environment var, no?
[16-Jul-2008 22:12:19] <boingolov> okay, think I figured out what the problem might be
[16-Jul-2008 22:14:40] <boingolov> zenmib doesn't seem to honor the order of the dependencies entered on the command line
[16-Jul-2008 22:14:53] <boingolov> it's passing them off to zenmib in seemingly random order
[16-Jul-2008 22:15:30] <malbon> may be worth raising a ticket for that.
[16-Jul-2008 22:17:38] <boingolov> okay
[16-Jul-2008 22:20:36] <boingolov> I also could well be mistaken
[16-Jul-2008 22:20:39] <boingolov> going to tinker a bit more
[16-Jul-2008 23:36:15] <davetoo> hi
[16-Jul-2008 23:36:53] <davetoo> Hasn't *anybody* tried to run "zendisc --routers" under 2.2?
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[17-Jul-2008 01:04:54] <MajereDB8> hello, is there anyone who is decent with python, or in particular have knowledge about zenpop3?
[17-Jul-2008 01:05:30] <MAHerron1> hmm
[17-Jul-2008 01:06:23] <MAHerron1> havnt used zenpop3... and have some limited experience with python transforms...
[17-Jul-2008 01:06:33] <MAHerron1> but i cannot promise much
[17-Jul-2008 01:07:19] <MajereDB8> yeah... i can handle c or java, but i don't know python. for some reason, zenpop3 is terminating with errors and not generating an event
[17-Jul-2008 01:08:14] <MajereDB8> if my e-mail account doesn't have any e-mail, it throws an exception saying "instance has no attribute 'finish' " at line 183. for some reason, it's not liking the self.finish() function
[17-Jul-2008 01:29:08] <MajereDB8> meh. it looks like mailprocessor.py is screwy
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[17-Jul-2008 08:21:36] <SniZ|work> hi, i correct time from Wed Jul 16 22:44:48 EEST 2008 to Wed Jul 16 17:49:52 EEST 2008
[17-Jul-2008 08:22:01] <SniZ|work> and i cant see graphs to now
[17-Jul-2008 08:25:25] <SniZ|work> http://i073.radikal.ru/0807/38/69460fde2cee.png
[17-Jul-2008 08:25:32] <SniZ|work> this is my graph
[17-Jul-2008 08:25:40] <SniZ|work> could anybody help?
[17-Jul-2008 08:39:32] <rad73> anyone have any experience of creating new devices by subclassing Device.py and setting zPythonClass to your derived class?
[17-Jul-2008 08:39:49] <rad73> I've got it mostly working.... but the modeler fails with a wierd error:
[17-Jul-2008 08:41:27] <rad73> wow and then after a zenoss restart the error goes away :s
[17-Jul-2008 08:41:55] <rad73> Seems some problems with loading stuff from my zenpack.... maybe things don't get loaded properly initially
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:24] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> hi, i correct time from Wed Jul 16 22:44:48 EEST 2008 to Wed Jul 16 17:49:52 EEST 2008
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> and i cant see graphs to now
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> http://i073.radikal.ru/0807/38/69460fde2cee.png
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> this is my graph
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> could anybody help?
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[17-Jul-2008 13:56:04] <rad73> anyone got any experience troubleshooting relationship issues where u get the missing attribute __of__?
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[17-Jul-2008 14:07:48] <rad73> it seems impossible to remove a zenpack if you have a broken relationship
[17-Jul-2008 15:22:59] <boingolov> I'm having some issues importing MIB files using zenmib . I have googled and googled, and while I haven't seen anyone with issues trying to import the specific MIB I'm trying to do, I have seen where a lot of people have similar issues and the solution involves modifying the MIB file
[17-Jul-2008 15:24:35] <boingolov> this is my first experience with these. is there a reference I could possibly start going through, or some sort of tutorial that goes through the process of massaging a mib file for use with zenmib / smidump / smilint ?
[17-Jul-2008 15:26:07] <boingolov> the thing is, by changing the order of the -p entries on the command line to smidump / smilint , I can get it to spit out a reasonable output, but zenmib keeps trying to change the order and it screws it up. where does it get this ordering from? it is not the order entered on the command line, and I am not a python programmer
[17-Jul-2008 15:57:09] <daMaestro> how do we go about adding custom reports?
[17-Jul-2008 15:57:27] <daMaestro> aka.. i'd like to have a custom view that shows perf data for a set of monitored devices in a single screen
[17-Jul-2008 16:01:59] <daMaestro> ah, i see
[17-Jul-2008 16:10:41] <boingolov> http://pastebin.com/m3226b338 <-- here is a basic synopsis of my problems with the mib, and I would love for anyone to make some suggestions on how to override zenmib
[17-Jul-2008 16:12:49] <boingolov> so if I've generated a python file, how can I use this to get imported into zenoss?
[17-Jul-2008 16:14:14] <daMaestro> where can I view the existing report definitions?
[17-Jul-2008 16:48:37] <daMaestro> gah, i can't get custom graphs to work
[17-Jul-2008 16:49:14] <otakup0pe> :/
[17-Jul-2008 16:49:22] <otakup0pe> it took me a while to get them going myself.
[17-Jul-2008 16:49:31] <otakup0pe> biggest problem was tweaking rrdtool to get the scale right.
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:14] <otakup0pe> ok so i'm seeing syslog messages come in with blank eventClassKey ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:22] <otakup0pe> which makes mapping them very hard other than via defaultmapping
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:26] <otakup0pe> thoughts on what i need to check ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:38] <otakup0pe> the component is set as the tag... ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:52] <otakup0pe> instead of the eventClassKey being set as the tag.
[17-Jul-2008 17:37:40] <otakup0pe> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5188
[17-Jul-2008 17:37:42] <otakup0pe> :3 thx internets
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[17-Jul-2008 17:39:00] <otakup0pe> hurr this is the code i have but it's still not working
[17-Jul-2008 17:41:03] <otakup0pe> oh wait nm
[17-Jul-2008 17:41:04] <otakup0pe> reading is fun
[17-Jul-2008 17:59:28] <otakup0pe> evt.summary = "${evt/eventKey} has logged in"
[17-Jul-2008 17:59:32] <otakup0pe> what's wrong with that transform ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:59:38] <otakup0pe> cause it prints the literal ${evt/eventKey}
[17-Jul-2008 18:01:36] <otakup0pe> nm :3
[17-Jul-2008 18:44:25] <TBKdan> I'm trying to create a new event for NTBackup failures. There's a few different errors that can get thrown, but they all follow the NTBackup_#### format. Is there any way to create an Event Class key regex or catch all?
[17-Jul-2008 19:41:04] <MAHerron1> anyone able to help with importing NETSNMP?
[17-Jul-2008 19:42:22] <Verilium> Has anyone here ever ran into trouble installing Zenoss Enterprise, the iso installer, on an ESX VM?
[17-Jul-2008 19:42:57] <Verilium> Well, more specifically, the network card doesn't seem to want to work, hmm...
[17-Jul-2008 20:10:05] <TBKdan> So, does anybody know if it is possible to create an event class key as a regex to match something like NTBackup_[0-9]+ ?
[17-Jul-2008 20:12:58] <TBKdan> Ah... perhaps a blank event key and then use the rule...
[17-Jul-2008 20:27:10] <Verilium> Ah nevermind, ESX issue.
[17-Jul-2008 20:39:32] <MAHerron1> has anyone seen this error when trying an 'import netsnmp'
[17-Jul-2008 20:39:36] <MAHerron1> object has no attribute
[17-Jul-2008 20:39:45] <MAHerron1> _____object has no attribute_______
[17-Jul-2008 20:40:00] <MAHerron1> with the underscored being variables
[17-Jul-2008 21:04:14] <boingolov> could someone please take a look? having an issue with zenmib: http://pastebin.com/m3226b338
[17-Jul-2008 21:14:07] <boingolov> I've dug through the zenmib source, and I have basically figured out how it determines what order bo build dependencies for the smidump , though I don't know enough about smidump to be able to say programatically what order theseshould be in
[17-Jul-2008 21:59:03] <boingolov> okay, made a local copy of zenmib.py and managed to get it work properly in this specific instance by doing an insert() instead of append() when it's building the list of dependencies. don't know enough to know if this will work on the generic case, don't really care. on to next issue:
[17-Jul-2008 22:00:21] <boingolov> now I have the MIB file for my device loaded into zenoss, I set the device to send snmp trap messages with given community string to the zenoss server, yet when I see the messages show up in the logs they are of class Unknown
[17-Jul-2008 22:00:40] <boingolov> do I have to tell zenoss that this device should be associated with a certain mib file?
[17-Jul-2008 22:00:56] <MAHerron1> you shouldnt
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:03] <boingolov> I didn't think so
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:08] <MAHerron1> it should associate with the OIDs in the traps
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:23] <boingolov> I assumed as much. so possibly I have another MIB to load?
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:59] <MAHerron1> probably need a few mibs for every type of device you got on her
[17-Jul-2008 22:05:02] <boingolov> gotcha
[17-Jul-2008 22:14:22] <boingolov> by the way, I'd like to make the statement that zenmib is a piece of crap
[17-Jul-2008 22:14:29] <boingolov> just had to get that off my chest, heh
[17-Jul-2008 22:15:04] <boingolov> if smidump is going to be so picky about the ordering of dependencies, and if zenmib is going to get it wrong, then there should at least be an option to manually override
[17-Jul-2008 22:15:35] <boingolov> as it stands I'm having to hard code for each one I'm importing that has more than one depency
[17-Jul-2008 22:16:04] <boingolov> if I were better at python I'd submit a patch
[17-Jul-2008 22:20:07] <boingolov> that being said, I think I finally have enough MIB's loaded now that I'm able to tell that the mystery snmp message was simply telling me that the community name changed
[17-Jul-2008 22:20:40] <boingolov> wee but hey, it's a start
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[18-Jul-2008 08:22:26] <rad73> does anyone know what it means when the modeler displays an error saying MyClass instance has no attribute '__of__'
[18-Jul-2008 08:22:35] <rad73> I'm sure it has something to do with the zenoss object relations
[18-Jul-2008 08:22:44] <rad73> but I can't figure out how to fix it
[18-Jul-2008 08:36:51] <rad73> I don't understand why loading your zenpack doesn't seem to load everything properly. Why do I keep having to restart zenoss all the time? I'm obviously missing something important but it's pretty frustrating
[18-Jul-2008 09:07:39] <rad73> does anyone understand how the zenoss object relationship model works?
[18-Jul-2008 09:19:00] <linash> rad73, you need to restart because zope keep a cached version of all templates and other stuff. Usually only 'zopectl restart' is required.
[18-Jul-2008 09:24:04] <rad73> linash is that also true for python objects?
[18-Jul-2008 09:24:22] <rad73> because it seems that code changes don't always get reflected until after a restart
[18-Jul-2008 09:26:54] <linash> not too sure about that, but surely restarting also zeodb should be sufficient enough.
[18-Jul-2008 09:27:27] <rad73> thanks linash
[18-Jul-2008 12:51:36] <rad73> does anyone understand how the zenoss object relationship model works?
[18-Jul-2008 12:52:03] <rad73> I keep getting MyClass instance has no attribute '__of__' problems
[18-Jul-2008 12:52:15] <rad73> I just don't understand enough about it to know what i need to fix
[18-Jul-2008 12:53:11] <waa> I'm install zenoss from source and it doesn't record address from locations
[18-Jul-2008 12:54:00] <waa> How can I solve that?
[18-Jul-2008 12:54:33] <MAHerron> what do you mean?
[18-Jul-2008 12:55:08] <MAHerron> you have already manually added a resolvable address in the edit section and zenrestore isnt grabbing them?
[18-Jul-2008 12:55:46] <MAHerron> even if your device has an address configured on it, i dont think it will add it to the applicable section to resolve on google maps
[18-Jul-2008 12:56:10] <MAHerron> for that you have to find the "edit" link on the location page and type in the address
[18-Jul-2008 12:56:41] <MAHerron> and rad73: im having the same issue
[18-Jul-2008 12:56:58] <rad73> MAHerron what have you been trying to do?
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:04] <MAHerron> trying to import with netsnmp
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:31] <MAHerron> and not able to really find anything useful on google
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:33] <rad73> have you created your own classes and set up your own relationships between them?
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:40] <MAHerron> yes
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:01] <MAHerron> driving me crazy
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:02] <rad73> me too.... except I'm pretty sure I've missed something in how to set up the relationships
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:14] <rad73> haha me too.... the errors/logs are not very descriptive
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:26] <MAHerron> same boat
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:35] <rad73> did u copy from an existing example?
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:53] <MAHerron> :-/ nope
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:00] <MAHerron> probably should have
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:07] <rad73> hmm I did and it still doesn't work
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:13] <rad73> which has left me all the more confused
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:29] <MAHerron> the answer will come in time as it always does
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:34] <MAHerron> the forums are our friends
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:51] <rad73> not posted about this on the forums yet
[18-Jul-2008 13:00:16] <MAHerron> yeah i try to exhaust myself before using that avenue
[18-Jul-2008 13:00:31] <rad73> same here - hopefully people will be more willing to help if uv tried
[18-Jul-2008 13:00:53] <MAHerron> hmmm... we hope
[18-Jul-2008 13:02:25] <rad73> it seems the __of__ attribute gets created somewhere (in the magic) when it creates the relationships
[18-Jul-2008 13:02:39] <rad73> but I can't figure out what I have missed
[18-Jul-2008 13:07:30] <waa> MAHerron, I put and address on locations using the edit link but it address get lost when I navigate to other page
[18-Jul-2008 13:09:17] <MAHerron> beats me... it should stay there as long as you save it
[18-Jul-2008 13:09:57] <waa> is it
[18-Jul-2008 13:11:24] <MAHerron> ty setting up a little test
[18-Jul-2008 13:11:27] <MAHerron> try*
[18-Jul-2008 13:11:58] <MAHerron> add a new organizer under locations> *namewhatever*
[18-Jul-2008 13:12:14] <MAHerron> click the *namewhatever* sublocation
[18-Jul-2008 13:12:53] <MAHerron> Address [edit]> click edit and it shoudl open dialougue box... type an address and save
[18-Jul-2008 13:12:59] <MAHerron> should stay
[18-Jul-2008 13:13:02] <MAHerron> not sure why its not
[18-Jul-2008 13:13:15] <MAHerron> thats fuc*in weird
[18-Jul-2008 13:13:31] <waa> ok, let me try
[18-Jul-2008 13:19:10] <waa> It nothing saving my changes
[18-Jul-2008 13:19:46] <waa> I will reisntall zenoss
[18-Jul-2008 13:25:33] <MAHerron> that seems like over kill... but usually solves everything
[18-Jul-2008 13:40:47] <TBKdan> I was wondering if someone could help me with event mapping... A windows box can throw several different kinds of NTBackup errors, but I want to be able to catch them all with a single Zenoss event. The thing they all have in common is a component of "NTBackup" and eventClassKey of "NTBackup_####".. I've tried doing stuff like a blank event class key and a rule of evt.component=="NTBackup" or a regex as the eventClassKey.. can't seem to get it. Any tips
[18-Jul-2008 13:41:31] <jp10558> I'm having a problem, I've got 2 OIDs and I need to turn them into a percentage. So far I've created a bash script to use snmpwalk to query the two OIDs and do the math, but using bc, I get numbers like 64.000000000000
[18-Jul-2008 13:41:48] <jp10558> Is it going to be an issue to feed that into zenoss as a command datasource?
[18-Jul-2008 13:42:02] <jp10558> if so, any help/ideas how to do the proper conversion to an integer?
[18-Jul-2008 14:34:46] <davetoo> Anybody here having zenhub timeout problems with 2.2?
[18-Jul-2008 14:37:13] <zenusr> i see 2.2 ent is out
[18-Jul-2008 14:37:17] <zenusr> wheres the download ?
[18-Jul-2008 14:38:14] <zenusr> not listed on the site, i expected they would let enterprise customers know , seems not tho !
[18-Jul-2008 14:40:20] <rad73> davetoo shutdown zenoss (zenoss stop) and then delete the *.zec files in $ZENHOME/var then restart zenoss(zenoss start)
[18-Jul-2008 14:40:43] <davetoo> btdt
[18-Jul-2008 14:40:58] <davetoo> i.e. I've tried that.
[18-Jul-2008 14:41:19] <rad73> have you checked to see if the zenhub process is runnign?
[18-Jul-2008 14:41:44] <davetoo> it is
[18-Jul-2008 14:41:46] <MajereDB8> hey, does anyone have any experience using zenpop3? i'm having issues getting the program to create an event from an e-mail
[18-Jul-2008 14:42:23] <rad73> davetoo no idea m8... those are just the obvious checks I guess
[18-Jul-2008 14:42:55] <davetoo> Thanks.
[18-Jul-2008 14:42:58] <rad73> np
[18-Jul-2008 15:31:44] <MAHerron> davetoo are you still there?
[18-Jul-2008 15:32:45] <MAHerron> because yes i have had to restart zenhub multiple times due to adding devices and configuation... we were able to stop zenmodeler from continually modeling devices that we didnt need polled and that helped the hub
[18-Jul-2008 15:33:35] <MAHerron> cant tell you how slow zen was runnig before that
[18-Jul-2008 15:34:10] <MAHerron> but fucking with zenmodeler is a good place to start... it uses a good amount of sytem resources when it is auto modeling like it's defaulted to do
[18-Jul-2008 15:34:37] <MAHerron> i hope you see this... because i struggled with restarting the hub for a month before doing this
[18-Jul-2008 15:35:03] <MAHerron> also, may want to mess with the collector plugins for your devices... chances are its polling for things you don't need on a regular basis
[18-Jul-2008 15:43:25] <davetoo> MAHerron: I comment zenmodeler out of the zenoss start script
[18-Jul-2008 15:43:40] <davetoo> I only run it on demand
[18-Jul-2008 15:43:47] <davetoo> because it's a resource pig
[18-Jul-2008 15:44:48] <a3r0_> Zenoss vs Nagios vs OpenNMS, What is the best?
[18-Jul-2008 15:44:51] <davetoo> I have 35,500 RRD files
[18-Jul-2008 15:45:48] <a3r0_> Zenoss can do distributed monitoring like nagios?
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:19] <a3r0_> Zenoss can set scheduled down time like nagios?
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:35] <magnachef> yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:35] <magnachef> yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:55] <a3r0_> with basic version?
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:11] <davetoo> maintenance windows:yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:13] <magnachef> distributed, no. Down time, yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:32] <davetoo> distributed... when you figure it out, let us know
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:40] <TBKdan> Didn't know about the downtime thing, quick google brought it up
[18-Jul-2008 15:48:14] <a3r0_> another problem of zenoss is effective thread on multi-core cpu.
[18-Jul-2008 15:48:58] <a3r0_> it's python's limitation.
[18-Jul-2008 15:50:24] <a3r0_> It uses only one cpu even under heavy load.
[18-Jul-2008 15:50:41] <davetoo> well Zenoss comprises several daemons
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:05] <davetoo> There used to be a way to run multiple copies of each daemon, as separate "monitors"
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:15] <davetoo> but that's not well documented
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:26] <davetoo> and I'm not sure if it works since zenoss 2.x
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:46] <davetoo> Chet figured it out, and then Zenoss hired him to shut him up about it
[18-Jul-2008 15:52:42] <TBKdan> lol
[18-Jul-2008 15:53:31] <a3r0_> Zenoss is more good at marketing than implemention functionality.
[18-Jul-2008 15:54:09] <a3r0_> I think
[18-Jul-2008 15:54:36] <TBKdan> a3r0_: You came in asking which is the best... seems like you already had an idea in your head though. Personally, I found Zenoss core to be better suited to the company's needs than Nagios/OpenNMS.
[18-Jul-2008 15:54:54] <MAHerron> TBKdan: im with you on that
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:10] <davetoo> so...
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:15] <davetoo> about "zendisc --routers"
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:27] <davetoo> I thought that was S.O.P. for bringing up any new zenoss system
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:33] <davetoo> Does nobody use that?
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:37] <davetoo> (It's broken now)
[18-Jul-2008 15:56:05] <davetoo> I was complaining to a co-worker about Zenoss' regression testing
[18-Jul-2008 15:56:51] <magnachef> I use the REST way of adding devices
[18-Jul-2008 15:57:40] <davetoo> I suppose if you already have a good handle on your layer-3 architecture, that will work
[18-Jul-2008 16:00:10] <magnachef> yeah
[18-Jul-2008 16:25:08] <nwood888> Been racking my brain for hours on this one. Any ideas? WMI connect error on .....: DeviceProxy instance has no attribute 'zWinUser'
[18-Jul-2008 16:25:55] <nwood888> I even tried hard-coding the u/p in WMIClient.py
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[18-Jul-2008 16:43:27] <jp10558> is ${dev/manageIp} what get's me the IP address of a device so it can pass it to an external script?
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[19-Jul-2008 12:36:45] <lacin> Hi, is it possible to Monitor a system via SSH? I find that ZenOSS provide Modeling through SSH but can't fine any tip on Monitoring via SSH
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[21-Jul-2008 12:46:58] <otakup0pe> ok so random question is it possible to setup "devices" that are not reachable via ping or resolvable ?
[21-Jul-2008 12:47:17] <otakup0pe> or is there a better way to group bunches of performance graphs together, other than via host.
[21-Jul-2008 12:51:35] <jp10558> Multigraph reports?
[21-Jul-2008 12:51:55] <jp10558> There was a zenpack/community discussion 6 ish months back on the users forum about that
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:01] <jp10558> not sure if it addresses your question
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:11] <otakup0pe> yeah i figured i could put together reports to pull the graphs i want in
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:29] <otakup0pe> but i wanted to have a device-like layout for non-ip capable devices
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:33] <otakup0pe> (actually erlang processes but's thats neither here nor there)
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:52] <otakup0pe> i know you can disable the ping check but can you disable the dns lookup as well ?
[21-Jul-2008 14:29:30] <rad73> does anyone know how to set the default sort column on a TableDatasource for a dashboard portlet?
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[21-Jul-2008 16:04:46] <MajereDB8> hello, is anyone familiar with using the zenpop3 capability?
[21-Jul-2008 16:49:01] <saiber> hello everyone, i m new on zenoss an comunity, hope to find intereting things
[21-Jul-2008 17:17:02] <TBKdan> Don't look behind door #3 o.O
[21-Jul-2008 18:22:09] <mr_clark> Anybody have the community version of Zenoss running on FreeBSD 7?
[21-Jul-2008 18:22:37] <mr_clark> I was going to try an install today but was wondering if there was any updated install notes anybody would have. I checked the site but they only have notes for 6.x.
[21-Jul-2008 18:22:56] <magnachef> check the forums
[21-Jul-2008 18:23:05] <magnachef> I think there's people doing it
[21-Jul-2008 18:28:11] <mr_clark> Okay thanks. I'll take a look.
[21-Jul-2008 18:37:32] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question for anyone available - is it possible to send snmpv3 trap notifications across the internet to a remote site?
[21-Jul-2008 18:38:05] <mr_clark> magnachef, Thanks. I checked the forums. No real details on any tricks/tips on FreeBSD 7. I'll give it a try. I'll start with the 6.x notes and see what happens.
[21-Jul-2008 19:03:32] <kyle___> what syntax would i use with the zenmib command to import a folder of mibs
[21-Jul-2008 19:07:05] <kyle___> got a bunch of HP mibs, dont wanna import them one by one
[21-Jul-2008 19:19:35] <magnachef> I think you might just want to use the *
[21-Jul-2008 19:28:34] <kyle___> Probably
[21-Jul-2008 19:28:40] <kyle___> but is it like ./zenmibs --import *
[21-Jul-2008 19:29:07] <kyle___> or are you saying the ID through the web interface would be *
[21-Jul-2008 19:34:28] <duncan> help, I need some NMS server names! -- suggestions so far, theodin/aragorn (overseers?) -- CIA/KGB -- gallager/carlin -- any suggestions?
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:04] <kso512> duncan: how about "nms-1" ?
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:42] <duncan> kso512:
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:52] <kso512> teehee
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:53] <kyle___> nms-01
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:57] <kyle___>
[21-Jul-2008 19:51:17] <kso512> kyle: yeah, if you're going to have more than 10 of them...!
[21-Jul-2008 19:51:33] <kyle___> hah
[21-Jul-2008 19:52:04] <kso512> duncan: lately at home i've been naming physical machines after constellations (ie: hydra) and then virtual machines on those physical machines after stars in the constellation (ie: alphard)... So is this a physical or virtual machine...?
[21-Jul-2008 19:52:59] <duncan> it is a physical machine
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:04] <duncan> two of them
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:17] <duncan> running different NMS platforms
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:30] <kso512> hmmmm
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:58] <duncan> I named our two LDAP servers Ren and Stimpy, since they run OpenLDAP and the process names are (slapd and slurpd)
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:08] <kso512> duncan: have you read this? http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:17] <adytum-bot^> Title: RFC 1178 (rfc1178) - Choosing a name for your computer (at www.faqs.org)
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:17] <kso512> duncan: hehehe right on
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:53] <kso512> duncan: how about wiggum and quimby?
[21-Jul-2008 19:55:12] <duncan> sounds catchy, where are they from?
[21-Jul-2008 19:55:23] <kso512> duncan: police chief and mayor from The Simpsons
[21-Jul-2008 19:55:31] <duncan> nice =)
[21-Jul-2008 19:57:03] <kso512> duncan: or JAKE and ELWOOD from the blues brothers...
[21-Jul-2008 19:57:32] <duncan> right on
[21-Jul-2008 21:07:42] <daMaestro> so, how do we apply a template to a group of devices?
[21-Jul-2008 21:08:02] <daMaestro> aka.. what type of storage container do we need to create to be able to apply a template to a collection of devices?
[21-Jul-2008 21:08:21] <magnachef> you apply it to a class, then add the devices to that class
[21-Jul-2008 21:09:43] <magnachef> does that make sense?
[21-Jul-2008 21:10:11] <daMaestro> ah, right; yes that makes sense
[21-Jul-2008 21:11:07] <daMaestro> magnachef, do you have any issues with the ethernet counters not working for lo?
[21-Jul-2008 21:11:15] <daMaestro> ethernetCsmacd_64
[21-Jul-2008 21:12:36] <magnachef> I don't bother monitoring lo
[21-Jul-2008 21:13:43] <MajereDB8> hi, is anyone familiar with using the zenpop3 and zenmail functionality for generating events from e-mails?
[21-Jul-2008 21:14:50] <magnachef> I am not
[21-Jul-2008 21:17:09] <MajereDB8> yeah... it seems like nobody is. oh well, guess that's a reason to be here tomorrow for the dev chat
[21-Jul-2008 21:22:43] <Gamekiller77> what is the best channel to ask for help with odd problems with zenoss
[21-Jul-2008 21:30:01] <daMaestro> hmm so i bind templates for device classes, i should un-bind the template at the device level?
[21-Jul-2008 21:30:14] <daMaestro> so when I...
[21-Jul-2008 21:31:50] <Gamekiller77> I have some large timeout on my zenoss issues with zenmodeler and zenwin in the 1565098 sec
[21-Jul-2008 21:32:01] <Gamekiller77> for each of those daemons
[21-Jul-2008 21:32:02] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifHCOutOctets" on server.tld (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10 is bad) is what i'm getting
[21-Jul-2008 21:32:24] <Gamekiller77> i already rebooted once and i also stopped and started the daemons also
[21-Jul-2008 21:35:47] <daMaestro> ah, it's "reset templates"
[21-Jul-2008 21:35:59] <daMaestro> "reset bindings"
[21-Jul-2008 21:36:21] <Gamekiller77> i got in a lot of trouble when i was messing with templates lol was not fun
[21-Jul-2008 21:42:37] <daMaestro> we have very custom requirements
[21-Jul-2008 21:58:59] <MAHerron1> anyone here?
[21-Jul-2008 22:01:25] <MAHerron1> anyone had trouble batch setting device locations in 2.2
[21-Jul-2008 22:01:45] <MAHerron1> i will select all> set location... yet nothing actually moves to the new location
[21-Jul-2008 22:02:14] <jeld> Hi, anyone knows how to use event class mapping? I am trying to do getattr(evt, 'component') == 'snmpd' or evt.component == 'snmpd' and it doesn't seem to work, what is the right way?
[21-Jul-2008 22:03:30] <MAHerron1> you just want the component to display the text "snmpd" for a specific trap?
[21-Jul-2008 22:04:03] <MAHerron1> or are you inserting a variable as the displayed component
[21-Jul-2008 22:04:03] <MAHerron1> ?
[21-Jul-2008 22:04:31] <MAHerron1> if its the former... you should be able to just do evt.component = "snmpd"
[21-Jul-2008 22:05:14] <MAHerron1> in edit> transform of the eventclass mapping
[21-Jul-2008 22:05:42] <jeld> no, I am not dealing with traps yet, this is just for the syslog entries from net-snmp daemon
[21-Jul-2008 22:06:11] <jeld> all I want to do is map snmpd syslog lines to a particular event class
[21-Jul-2008 22:07:04] <jeld> so I created a mapping for the Config/Snmp named snmpd with event class key snmpd and rule I mentioned
[21-Jul-2008 22:07:23] <jeld> and no events seem to trickle down to it
[21-Jul-2008 22:07:47] <MAHerron1> hm
[21-Jul-2008 22:08:51] <jeld> one thing I noticed is that by default all the syslog events have empty event class key, could this be the reason? I set event class to empty in my mapping, but still no go
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:48] <MAHerron1> yeah sorry, i dont think im going to be of any further help
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:52] <MAHerron1>
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:54] <jeld> on the other hand, even mapping rules that came with the default install don't seem to work
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:55] <MAHerron1> wish i could
[21-Jul-2008 22:11:51] <jeld>
[21-Jul-2008 22:18:08] <Gamekiller77> MAHerron1: the move location from with in the /server/windows group seems to crash for me now
[21-Jul-2008 22:18:14] <Gamekiller77> i submitted a bug for it
[21-Jul-2008 22:19:28] <MAHerron1> yeah it was happening sporadically but a relogin would help... now it's just plain impossible to batch set for a group of devices... you have a ticket number for your bug?
[21-Jul-2008 22:20:46] <Gamekiller77> nah did an auto submit on the crash
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:33] <MAHerron1> nice... well if you happen to hear back will you ping me on aim?
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:38] <MAHerron1> aherronlagnaps
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:41] <Gamekiller77> i use to get it a lot of 2.1 betas
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:57] <MAHerron1> yeah... its a reason i downgraded off of beta
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:07] <MAHerron1> glad to see its now in a stable release
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:09] <Gamekiller77> now with 2.2 it was working fine
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:18] <Gamekiller77> then out of the blue stopped
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:24] <MAHerron1> yeah... keyword: was
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:29] <MAHerron1> sigh
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:45] <Gamekiller77> my problems is super wired
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:01] <Gamekiller77> man
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:07] <Gamekiller77> now zenhub being wierd
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:35] <MAHerron1> hmm
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:40] <MAHerron1> i had zenhub problems
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:50] <MAHerron1> are you having to restart zen a bunch?
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:00] <MAHerron1> and zenhub process hangs?
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:10] <Gamekiller77> yah
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:10] <MAHerron1> making you 'kill' it?
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:26] <Gamekiller77> zenmodeler zenhub and zenwin
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:26] <MAHerron1> you may want to eff with zenmodeler
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:30] <Gamekiller77> i get zenoss issues
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:50] <Gamekiller77> like 1 million seconds
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:51] <Gamekiller77> lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:24] <MAHerron1> well quick tip
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:34] <MAHerron1> zenmodeler is a resource hog
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:45] <MAHerron1> and doesnt do much... at least for me
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:49] <Gamekiller77> what i did notice is that i have two zenoss install dir
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:19] <MAHerron1> personally i stop zenmodeler from loading at all... it continually models all devices and eats up resources
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:39] <MAHerron1> you should probably try to comment it out and see if that helps you out
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:49] <MAHerron1> at least while configuring zen
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:50] <Gamekiller77> yah
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:05] <MAHerron1> it will still model devices when you add them
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:05] <Gamekiller77> no i have a full network mapped already
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:13] <MAHerron1> hm
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:16] <Gamekiller77> i finaly got all my windows servers added and all
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:27] <Gamekiller77> it working great in that aspect
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:39] <Gamekiller77> infact i found errors on my AD server i never knew about
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:12] <MAHerron1> yeah im loving it so far... about to completly destroy my nagios box
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:20] <Gamekiller77> zenhub is the one thing that seems to bite teh dusk every time i model
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:48] <MAHerron1> yeah, pretty sure its due to zenmodeler... ive seen the issue discussed on the forums
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:58] <Gamekiller77> hmm ok
[21-Jul-2008 22:29:47] <Gamekiller77> i have yet to get e-mail alert to work for me
[21-Jul-2008 22:29:59] <Gamekiller77> i unplugged a server the other day and i got nothing
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:06] <Gamekiller77> it was unplugged for 30 minutes
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:07] <MAHerron1> eek
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:21] <MAHerron1> persnoally have not wrestled with the email stuff yet
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:44] <MAHerron1> my engineers squaked at the prospect of more emails
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:51] <Gamekiller77> i gotton all my cisco MS server and my linux boxs on zenoss
[21-Jul-2008 22:31:26] <Gamekiller77> i just want it for hi level problems
[21-Jul-2008 22:31:52] <Gamekiller77> my switchs send out way to many Yellow alerts
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:16] <MAHerron1> these coming in through traps or polling?
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:18] <Gamekiller77> the one thing i have not been able to keep up 100% is windows Perf
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:22] <Gamekiller77> traps
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:38] <MAHerron1> yeah you can set trap sev if you need to in zproperties
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:45] <Gamekiller77> every time a user jacks in and out
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:00] <MAHerron1> yeah i set stuff like that to debug and never deal with it again
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:12] <Gamekiller77> yup
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:22] <Gamekiller77> but again my perf stuff nto working again
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:31] <Gamekiller77> man i really need that for server load tracking
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:05] <MAHerron1> heard of cacti?
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:07] <MAHerron1>
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:19] <Gamekiller77> yah was looking at it
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:30] <Gamekiller77> but have not had time to play with it yet
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:35] <Gamekiller77> to busy with other projects
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:51] <MAHerron1> i like it better for perf monitoring than zen... but thats all
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:11] <Gamekiller77> trying to finish the deploy of 3 other open source projects here at my university
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:25] <MAHerron1> eek
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:35] <MAHerron1> what else?
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:44] <Gamekiller77> well there all deployed just finaly stages
[21-Jul-2008 22:36:01] <Gamekiller77> Moodle, OCS-NG and RT: RTFM:
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:07] <Gamekiller77> Moodle is done i just need to train users
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:24] <MAHerron1> arguably the hardest part
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:28] <Gamekiller77> OCS-NG is done i just need to do the last couple computer on the net and RT is done
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:44] <Gamekiller77> Way hard as the teachers here are no tech
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:56] <MAHerron1> sigh
[21-Jul-2008 22:38:12] <Gamekiller77> we went from a E1 to a DS3 and they like ok so
[21-Jul-2008 22:38:58] <MAHerron1> so, oviously they have no comprehension of the words "crazy bandwidth"
[21-Jul-2008 22:39:03] <MAHerron1>
[21-Jul-2008 22:39:11] <Gamekiller77> ROLF i just had my JR admin unplug my test server and now more then half the servers are RED
[21-Jul-2008 22:39:42] <Gamekiller77> on zenoss
[21-Jul-2008 22:40:41] <Gamekiller77> i think me stopping the zenmoderl let everthing else reg with the server
[21-Jul-2008 22:40:49] <Gamekiller77> i got about a millions events now
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:11] <Gamekiller77> i think zenwin crashed on me
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:28] <Gamekiller77> nope it just working now lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:28] <MAHerron1> it never ends does it
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:34] <MAHerron1> lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:41] <Gamekiller77> lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:51] <Gamekiller77> time ti play with windows services
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:58] <MAHerron1> aiight i have to track down why i cannot set locations anymore
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:59] <Gamekiller77> that zenwin tracks
[21-Jul-2008 22:43:07] <MAHerron1> later
[21-Jul-2008 22:43:10] <Gamekiller77> it a call to the database
[21-Jul-2008 22:49:56] <Gamekiller77> O I got one for this room. Is there a way to edit the line in "Device Information" Links
[21-Jul-2008 23:07:16] <MAHerron1> this is weird
[21-Jul-2008 23:07:35] <MAHerron1> its only not letting me set the locations for certain devices
[21-Jul-2008 23:07:46] <MAHerron1> what the f**k am i missing
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[22-Jul-2008 10:45:56] <fuzz> if using the stack installer, do I need to use the bundeled-in mysql-server, or can I use a mysql instance on a remote host?
[22-Jul-2008 11:46:45] <mf2ng> hmm
[22-Jul-2008 11:47:33] <mf2ng> can someone give a example how to make threshold of 10% change in 5min
[22-Jul-2008 11:48:53] <mf2ng> so, if for example UPS OutputLoad changes from 15kW to 20kW for more than 5 minutes i would like to know about it
[22-Jul-2008 14:04:28] <kso512> fuzz: I'm just guess-timating here, but I would think you could change Zenoss to connect to another MySQL database, even on another machine... You may want to look at the 'zenoss-stack' command script, though, and comment out the parts where it starts up and shuts down it's internal mysql server...
[22-Jul-2008 14:07:29] <kso512> fuzz: To change what MySQL server Zenoss connects to, go to the Event Manager page (.../zport/dmd/ZenEventManager)
[22-Jul-2008 14:12:45] <jb> hi..
[22-Jul-2008 14:28:16] <jb> anyone here that knows how to create basic reports?
[22-Jul-2008 14:55:32] <daMaestro> how do we adjust how often zenoss polls?
[22-Jul-2008 14:55:50] <daMaestro> it looks like we are getting polling every 5 minutes and we'd like to look at doing so every 1
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:45] <jb> you can set zCommandCycleTime in the zproperties for the device tree..
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:51] <jb> i beleive that should do it.
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:53] <jb> its defauletd to 60
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:54] <davewinter> 2.1 or 2.2?
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:58] <jb> 2.2
[22-Jul-2008 14:57:47] <mistich> be careful doing 1 min polling cycle if you are pulling alot of oid your going to need a big box
[22-Jul-2008 14:58:23] <ckrough> you can set it under /Monitors/Performance/localhost/editPerformanceConf
[22-Jul-2008 14:58:42] <ckrough> 1 minute cycle eats a lot of disk IO if you have a high number of OIDS
[22-Jul-2008 14:58:51] <ckrough> replace localhost with the collector name
[22-Jul-2008 14:59:46] <mrayzenoss> Hi everybody, Matt Ray from Zenoss here. Looks like discussions are already under way.
[22-Jul-2008 15:00:20] <mrayzenoss> There are a couple of Zenoss folks in the channel, they can introduce themselves if they like, or lurk anonymously
[22-Jul-2008 15:00:36] <ericnewton> Hello... this is Eric (not Erik) from Zenoss
[22-Jul-2008 15:00:41] <ian__> I'd prefer to lurk anonymously.
[22-Jul-2008 15:01:14] <ericnewton> wow... a lot more people than when I used to come here 2 years ago
[22-Jul-2008 15:01:48] <davewinter> I will be the first to kiss a$$. Thanks Zenoss Devs for making such a great product!
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:04] <davewinter> Now can you please do all my features requests?
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:14] <mistich> and mine too
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:18] <ericnewton> yes... +1 for all kiss-ass requests
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:19] <ian__> ericnewton would be happy to.
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:44] <mistich> so well have those next week
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:57] <mrayzenoss> so features... 2.2.3 is in the polishing stages
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:03] <ericnewton> in keeping with our normally timely schedules, yes of course
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:07] <daMaestro> good.
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:16] <davewinter> sept for 2.2.3? or oct?
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:18] <mrayzenoss> not a lot of new functionality, lots of installer issues for this one
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:19] <daMaestro> i'm having to use 2.1.3 because of some bugs we have run into
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:29] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.3 is this week (hopefully). 2.3 is October
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:35] <davewinter> ah
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:45] <daMaestro> it's just some TALES issues
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:07] * Shylock wishes for support of a debian based distro for Zenoss Enterprise
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:13] <ericnewton> if you run Core, then you can probably pull a source release from the branch and be running 2.2.3 today
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:16] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro:have you opened tickets?
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:21] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, yes
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:28] <mistich> I have a question is there a place we can look at what is going to be in 2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:29] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, have not had time to send a patch
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:31] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: have they been addressed?
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:33] <mistich> or any version
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:37] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, dunno
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:48] <magnachef> any upgrades to the docs with these upcomming releases?
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:56] <ericnewton> Shylock: have you tried the .deb stack installer?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:02] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:07] <cccharles> is it true that there is no easy way to enable HTTPS in the web GUI?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:10] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:16] <Shylock> I can install core, but was informed that enterprise is not supported on Debian
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:16] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: minor documentation refreshes
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:18] <davewinter> anyone running zenoss-enterprise with an offbox mysql? or mysql cluster?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:25] <daMaestro> specifically.. our 64TB mount was reporting something like 5TB
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:29] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: dev doc stuff for adding tabs didn't make it in (2.2.4)
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:43] <ckrough> davewinter: are you findin
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:51] <ckrough> g mysql as a bottleneck?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:52] <ericnewton> Shylock: this will be remedied with 2.2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:53] <daMaestro> but there were many other graphing issues, which sucked
[22-Jul-2008 15:06:09] <mrayzenoss> Shylock: we have to make choices on how many platforms we can support officially. Debian may be covered by BitRock installers for Enterprise eventually
[22-Jul-2008 15:06:15] <davewinter> ckrough, no, just need to have a common platform or other apps to use mysql. dont need a lot of mysql servers to manage.
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:09] <Shylock> ericnewton: Ok... I just installed Cenos5 to get 2.2 up and going here, but I've been debian guy for the last 8 years or so... My redhat-fu has become weak.
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:24] <daMaestro> so, i'd really like to get interface monitoring working again
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:27] <davewinter> we had a 32 million row history table that i had to deal with recently, so i need a more robust mysql solution rather than keeping it on the zneoss server
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:31] <ericnewton> daMaestro: do you know if netsnmp reports the correct value for your 64 TB mount?
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:31] <ckrough> What is the long term direction for reporting? Will there be major changes in the way reports are created, or will you be sticking with the current method?
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:38] <daMaestro> ericnewton, it does, yet
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:43] <mrayzenoss> mistich: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6651
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:45] <daMaestro> ericnewton, it also works correctly with 2.1.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:00] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - The 2.3 Release Plan (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:04] <daMaestro> what i'd really like help with is getting interface perf monitoring to work correctly
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:47] <mistich> yes I've seen the post but something more detailed
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:49] <ericnewton> daMaestro: please post a bug for the 64 TB mount and attach an SNMP walk of the device (edit out any bits you don't want public)
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:52] <MajereDB8> hi, i've been testing the zenpop3 module for a while and have been having some trouble getting the program to generate events. pjp13 posted some fixes that have eliminated one of my problems (unable to parse the from: line), but i'm still getting a bunch of errors
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:56] <daMaestro> ericnewton, ok
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:19] <mrayzenoss> ckrough: I haven't seen much about changing reporting. I'd like to put out more documentation and examples so people can do more
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:24] <ericnewton> daMaestro: what issues are you having with interface graphs?
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:37] <MajereDB8> i've documented my problems here - http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6677 - problem 2 is solved by pjp13's patch
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:42] <daMaestro> Throughput, Packets, Errors (via the perf tab) are not rendering with the shipped ethernetCsmacd_64 template
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:44] <magnachef> yeah, maybe get a wiki going where people can post examples of their reports
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:45] <daMaestro> I also get:
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:53] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenpop3 errors - unable to generate e-mail event (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:08] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifOutErrors" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:13] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: We are down to 2 finalists for replacing our wiki and community infrastructure
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:17] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifHCInOctets" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.6 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:24] <davewinter> i get the "is bad" snmp issue sometimes as well.
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:28] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifHCOutOctets" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:29] <daMaestro> etc
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:30] <ericnewton> MajereDB8: zenpop3 is unfinished... I expect it to take some elbo-grease to get it working
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:35] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: we're looking for something much easier to add content to and collaborate on
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:09] <Shylock> So, is there a model diagram or documentation for all of the dmd classes? All of the zenoss classes inherit from such method heavy superclasses that introspection isn't very helpful in figuring out how to navigate the dmd.
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:12] <jshadow> any chance ticket 363, acknowledging and clearing via smtp will make it in soon? I see that being bery useful
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:27] <TBKdan> I'm trying to create a catch-all event for NTBackup errors. The event class key is in the form of NTBackup_#### and component is NTBackup.. Is there a way to create an event that will map to any of these events without creating an event for each possible error??
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:38] <jb> hi guys.
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:57] <jb> what was the .bmp that you tried to dcc?
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:01] <jb> i missed it..
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:18] <ericnewton> Shylock: we use a couple of techniques while working in zendmd
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:27] <mistich> I agree would be nice to have docs on all of the dmd classes
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:29] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3785 is what snmpwalk shows
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:30] <ericnewton> Shylock: we use "grepdir" to search for properties
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:33] <MajereDB8> ericnewton: bummer. i understand how that goes. the zenackevents script posted by edahl is pretty slick and would work great in combination with zenpop3, but i guess all things come with time
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:39] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3785 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:45] <ericnewton> Shylock: I find it's easier to print obj.__dic__
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:50] <jb> guys, is 2.2.1 out yet?
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:51] <mrayzenoss> jshadow: Nothing specific is being done on SMS/SMTP control that I'm aware of, but we are going to start cleaning out zenoss-3000 to get better traction on tickets
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:54] <daMaestro> so, obviously 1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10 is not bad
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:09] <jshadow> mrayzenss: Ok, thanks
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:30] <mrayzenoss> jb: 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 didn't come out officially, 2.2.3 is about to come out
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:33] <ericnewton> daMaestro: is snmp version set to v2c on the device?
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:45] <jb> mrayzenoss: can I expect a -CLEAN- upgrade from 2.2.0?
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:00] <Shylock> ericnewton: Yeah... I generally load the rlcompleter tab completion stuff. I haven't used grepdir before, I'll try that.
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:15] <ericnewton> jb: we have spent most of the time/effort for 2.2.3 on upgrades
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:20] <jb> awesome!
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:21] <ericnewton> jb: and testing
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:26] <jb> my 2.1.2 -> 2.2 experience was horrific
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:32] <daMaestro> ericnewton, yes
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:52] <daMaestro> ericnewton, if i go to an individual interface.. the graph is properly generated
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:57] <jb> so when can we expect 2.2.3? this week?
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:13] <ericnewton> jb: yes, if things keep going well
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:17] <jb> ok
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:26] <daMaestro> ericnewton, i've just tried deleting lo and sit0 and then locked the ip interfaces to see if that gets rid of the snmp warnings and makes the "perf" tab interface graphs work
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:49] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.3 is in a RC right now
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:49] <daMaestro> so far, the perf tab graphs are still not rendering
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:49] <magnachef> is it still the case that if you rename your device, you lose all of your RRD data associated with that device? Because I noticed that with 2.1.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:55] <jb> I had read that there was an official BigIP zenpack, but I haven't seen any talk of it since the announcement..
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:02] <jb> is this still in progress?
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:03] <jshadow> On the note of the feature requests, it would be nice to have a voting system sort of like the ubuntu brainstorm
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:12] <ericnewton> daMaestro: you can run zenperfsnmp against one device in debug mode:
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:21] <mrayzenoss> jb: Enterprise has a BigIP ZenPack I believe
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:25] <jb> ah.
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:31] <jb> i have started one for core
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:32] <mistich> yes a voting system would be nice
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:51] <ckrough> depends on how many votes I get
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:51] <jb> i wonder what the enterprise pack does exactly
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:52] <ericnewton> daMastro: zenperfsnmp -v 10 -d myproblemdevice
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:11] <daMaestro> i also seem to have an issue with http and https ip service randomly stop monitoring
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:33] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'll see if we have a PDF
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:44] <mistich> one for you ckrough
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:46] <jb> thanks
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:57] <ericnewton> daMaestro: I believe a bug was fixed: the services would toggle monitoring w/each modeling run
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:17] <ericnewton> deMaestro: fixed in 2.2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:30] <jb> hey guys, has there been any progress on documentation for making custom modelers?
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:36] <ptothedo> Will multi-graphing adding reports to zenpacks be fixed?
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:51] <jb> ie, populating fields such as HW Make, OS Make, OS Version (and other custom fields maybe?) with data via snmp?
[22-Jul-2008 15:19:16] <ericnewton> ptothedo: could you be more specific (and post a bug report if you haven't)?
[22-Jul-2008 15:19:18] <daMaestro> ericnewton, good news
[22-Jul-2008 15:19:51] <daMaestro> ericnewton, is there an upgrade path?
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:08] <mrayzenoss> jb: checking with the doc guy
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:17] <davetoo> I'd like to talk about zenhub in 2.2. I'm seeing a lot of timeouts now.
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:33] <davetoo> What changed?
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:52] * daMaestro wonders if there are 2.2.3rc rpms somewhere?
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:58] <ericnewton> davetoo... in 2.2 we switched
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:58] <ptothedo> I haven't created a bug report yet, but if I try to add sub report organizers to a zenpack they don't get add. Also, resequencing items in reporting isn't working for me.
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:58] <daMaestro> or even *gulp* a repo?
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:00] <daMaestro> ;-/
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:00] <davetoo> (sorry, I haven't looked at the changelists for it yet)
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:13] <ericnewton> davetoo: nearly every daemon to get data from zenhub
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:13] <cccharles> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3928&highlight=https <-- Is this really the only way to get the web GUI to support HTTPS?
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:22] <jb> I think custom modelers are very important.. and we haven't seen any documentation/easy way to create them..
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:29] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Modifying Zenoss for SSL encryption (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:33] <ericnewton> davetoo: for simpler distributed collection
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:33] <davetoo> ericnewton: I was speculating about that
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:39] <daMaestro> ericnewton, i assume that a workaround for now is to lock ip services?
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:43] <ian__> daMaestro: there is a yum repo, but it doesn't have rc rpms in it
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:46] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: we haven't put together infrastructure for providing betas very well
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:53] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, ok
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:57] <ericnewton> daMaestro: yes for now
[22-Jul-2008 15:22:05] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: betas tend to get out in the wild, we still see people running the pre-2.2. betas
[22-Jul-2008 15:22:05] <daMaestro> ian__, i'll look around and sync the tree into our cobbler infrastructure
[22-Jul-2008 15:22:41] <ericnewton> davetoo: tell me a bit about your setup and where you are seeing timeouts
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:09] <mrayzenoss> jb: when we get the new wiki up, I plan on seeding discussion areas so people can get such stuff started if we don't provide it yet
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:11] <davetoo> I think I have about 33,000 rrd files
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:27] <jb> k
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:41] <davetoo> I'm looking for system specs right now...
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:52] <mrayzenoss> jb: Have you opened a ticket for it? That'll get it some love
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:53] <ckrough> we are fighting zenperf and zenprocess timeouts as well
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:58] <ericnewton> davetoo: most of the collection via snmp?
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:58] <davetoo> dual-Xeon 3G
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:01] <jb> yeah theres a ticket
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:04] <davetoo> yes
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:05] <jb> eric dahl opened it I beileve..
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:19] <TBKdan> I'm trying to create a catch-all event for NTBackup errors. The event class key is in the form of NTBackup_#### and component is NTBackup.. Is there a way to create an event that will map to any of these events without creating an event for each possible error??
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:32] <mrayzenoss> jb: number? I'll get it to Doc and out of Erik's queue
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:33] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "eth0" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.2 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:34] <davetoo> Not much by commands, none by WMI
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:45] <jb> whats the ticket URL again?
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:49] <jb> trac
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:51] <daMaestro> blah, well after i removed the lo interface, i'm now getting these events
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:53] <ericnewton> davetoo: that's good... the timeouts: are you missing your cycle time?
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:14] <davetoo> I began to notice the timeouts when adding new devices
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:44] <ericnewton> jb: dev.zenoss.com
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:46] <davetoo> Not missing poll cycles currently
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:51] <jb> eric: thanks
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:22] <ericnewton> davetoo: where do you see timeouts?
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:23] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3786 is what the shipped template requests, and i can snmpwalk those OIDs
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:32] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3786 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:45] <davetoo> ericnewton: zendeviceloader timeouts
[22-Jul-2008 15:27:18] <davetoo> http://pastebin.com/m686d5e5d
[22-Jul-2008 15:27:57] <davetoo> I'm also surprised that I'm seeing zenstatus log messages in the zenhub logfile now....
[22-Jul-2008 15:28:58] <ericnewton> davetoo: that actually looks ok... have you investigated why those 10 devices have timedout?
[22-Jul-2008 15:28:59] <jb> arg, I can't find the ticket number or the forum thread.
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:14] <mistich> davetoo: when you have bad devices zenpref retries the devices and it takes longer
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:15] <jb> here it is
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:18] <jb> mrayzenoss: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3292
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:25] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3292 (document modeler plugins) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:42] <jb> so it wasn't edahl
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:47] <mistich> if you remove or fix the bad devices your polling cycle will finish on time
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:07] <davetoo> yes,
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:09] <mrayzenoss> Hey ericnewton, #3292 is in your box.
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:20] <davetoo> but my problem is not currently with the snmp polling finishing on time
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:22] <ericnewton> mrayzenoss: oh good.. I was running out
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:27] <jb>
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:47] <davetoo> the problem is that while adding devices the connection to zenhub times out
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:07] <davetoo> I get a message asking if zenhub is running
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:13] <mrayzenoss> speaking of numerous and interesting ZenPacks.... we've had 15 entries in the Submit a ZenPack contest
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:14] <ericnewton> oh, that I can believe
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:23] <mistich> from what you pasted all I see is the bad devices
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:29] <jb> mrayzenoss: oh yeah? are they published anywhere?
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:41] <mrayzenoss> there's a big backlog to be published
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:49] <mrayzenoss> I believe 7 are up so far
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:51] <ericnewton> davetoo: zenhub is trying to push the changes (the new device) to the collectors
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:54] <davetoo> I'm not very well prepared for this discussion, sorry; I'm at a remote site and just learned about this yesterday.
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:59] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/
[22-Jul-2008 15:32:09] <mistich> yeah I need to post some of mine and quit hording them for myself
[22-Jul-2008 15:32:13] <adytum-bot^> Title: ZenPack Project Site - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:32:49] <daMaestro> umm... well when i re-modeled the device... it seems to have ignored my locks
[22-Jul-2008 15:33:23] <ericnewton> daMaestro: that's unfortunate
[22-Jul-2008 15:33:39] <mrayzenoss> new ZenPacks up so far are: ASSP Anti-Spam, Brocade Switches, Improved Linux Monitoring, MIB Browser, OpenLayers Map.
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:18] <ericnewton> daMaestro: you can probably find the changesets that fix the issue if the need is urgent
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:30] <davetoo> anyway what is your strategy for preventing zenhub from becoming a bottleneck?
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:40] <mistich> the only thing would be nice to have a link on the zenpacks page of stuff people are currently working-on or would like to see
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:50] <ericnewton> davetoo: you can have multiple zenhubs
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:02] <mistich> oh yes we have 8 on one box
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:10] <mistich> it helps alot
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:14] <ericnewton> mistich is a crazy man
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:17] <mrayzenoss> in the queue: updated Funkwerks, Alvarion, NetApp, Netasq, WMIFilesMonitor, EMC Celerra NAS, SQL Server
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:35] <davetoo> Is this similar to the old multiple monitor trick that Chet figured out?
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:51] <davetoo> is there a wiki page/faq entry?
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:57] <ericnewton> davetoo: probably
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:59] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah and Colubris, MRV and Raytalk
[22-Jul-2008 15:36:39] <ericnewton> davetoo: not that I know of... enterprise 2.2.3 will have a GUI to set it up
[22-Jul-2008 15:36:53] <mistich> nice
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:06] <davetoo> ok...
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:12] <mistich> I have a script that we create multpile zenhubs
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:12] <cccharles> are there any plans to ship an SSL-enabled Zope?
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:19] <daMaestro> ericnewton, http://fpaste.org/paste/3789 is what i get if i try to use the ethernetCsmacd template, which seems to be properly graphing interfaces
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:25] <davetoo> we will have to try to talk to Gary again about that
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:28] <ericnewton> cccharles: not that I know of
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:29] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3789 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:33] <davetoo> the last phone call didn't go so well :|
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:41] <mistich> modified from something zenoss sent me
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:42] <ericnewton> cccharles: most people just front the thing with Apache
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:48] <ptothedo> lol
[22-Jul-2008 15:38:13] <cccharles> ericnewton: I've seen some discussion about that... it seems heavy when you have Zope already running.
[22-Jul-2008 15:39:05] <cccharles> ericnewton: thanks for the tip, though. at least I know now :-).
[22-Jul-2008 15:39:09] <mistich> we front ours with apache works great
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:26] <ericnewton> daMaestro: perhaps this bug/and patches will help: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/2960
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:34] <adytum-bot^> Title: #2960 (OS Process modeling/monitoring exhibiting strange behavior) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:41] <ericnewton> that's for processes, not services
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:56] <ericnewton> so perhaps it is not fixed after all
[22-Jul-2008 15:41:40] <daMaestro> ericnewton, looks like this will be in 2.2.3?
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:03] <ericnewton> daMaestro: http://fpaste.org/paste/3789 from a system that has been upgraded from 2.0?
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:05] <daMaestro> ericnewton, we tried 2.2.0 and that liked to epic fail a lot
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:10] <davetoo> Another topic: the loss of zendisc --routers functionality
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:12] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3789 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:13] <daMaestro> ericnewton, no, that is just 2.1.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:30] <davetoo> had nobody been using that to bring up new systems?
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:36] <ericnewton> well, we're trying to cut down on Epic Fail... that's why you haven't seen 2.2.1 or 2.2.2
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:04] <mrayzenoss> yeah, 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 had upgrade issues, like you couldn't
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:04] <ericnewton> we kept those Fails to ourselves
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:30] <mrayzenoss> we plan on having a more vigorous beta program for 2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:37] <davetoo> good
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:44] <mistich> can you use 2.2.2 collectors to speak to a 2.1.3 master
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:52] <ckrough> crosses fingers
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:09] <mistich> I'd like to be on the beta
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:12] <mrayzenoss> we'll be soliciting 2.3 beta testers in a controlled fashion, so not too many people blowing up their junk
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:14] <TBKdan> lol... too bad MS doesn't follow the "Don't release epic fails" philosophy sometimes...
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:21] <ericnewton> mistich: probably not a good idea
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:27] <mrayzenoss> mistich: it'll be for Enterprise and Core customers
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:40] <mrayzenoss> err... users
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:55] <ckrough> mistich: you gonna work double shifts?
[22-Jul-2008 15:45:06] <mistich> soon I'll have some test boxes and once there up I'd be glad to help not on my production systems
[22-Jul-2008 15:45:46] <daMaestro> darnit
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:13] <daMaestro> what data points should i be using to be able to utilized the data i can see in the os/ ethX perf reports?
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:43] <mistich> anyone have any luck with holt-winters?
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:46] <ericnewton> daMaestro: what are you trying to do?
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:55] <TBKdan> Is this even possible? If not, please say so... I'm trying to create a catch-all event for NTBackup errors. The event class key is in the form of NTBackup_#### and component is NTBackup.. Is there a way to create an event that will map to any of these events without creating an event for each possible error??
[22-Jul-2008 15:47:18] <daMaestro> ericnewton, add a report that graphs all our web nodes interface traffic
[22-Jul-2008 15:49:20] <ericnewton> daMastro: there's already a graph that sort of does that: /zport/dmd/Reports/Performance Reports/Aggregate Reports
[22-Jul-2008 15:49:38] <ericnewton> the last one: just click the graph and add a different pattern for the devices
[22-Jul-2008 15:50:12] <ericnewton> you might be able to trace how that graph is generated to create your own
[22-Jul-2008 15:50:57] <ericnewton> but to answer your question: ifInOctets and ifOutOctets
[22-Jul-2008 15:51:06] <ericnewton> if you are using the v1 32-bit counters
[22-Jul-2008 15:51:35] <ckrough> has anyone done aggregated multi-graph reports?
[22-Jul-2008 15:52:32] <ericnewton> and ifHCInOctets and ifHCOutOctets if you are using the high-performance counter config
[22-Jul-2008 15:53:46] <ericnewton> TBKdan: the defaultmapping event mapper runs if the event class key doesn't match: try modifying that
[22-Jul-2008 15:54:30] <TBKdan> ericnewton: Ok, I'll take a look. Thanks.
[22-Jul-2008 15:55:27] <mrayzenoss> Thanks to everybody for coming to #zenoss to chat for a bit, I'm gonna let Eric get back to fixing your tickets
[22-Jul-2008 15:55:39] <TBKdan> Just ran into a bug I believe... trying to view multiple pages of eventClassInstSequence and trying to view any page other than the default just brings it back to the event.
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:12] <ericnewton> Thanks guys/gals... having tickets entered with simple reproducible test cases helps a lot... and we do try to chase those down
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:27] <TBKdan> Thanks for your time
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:32] <ericnewton> I'll be chatting w/you all soon again!
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:36] <mrayzenoss> I'll try to get the transcript for this session put up somewhere soon
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:49] <mrayzenoss> in addition to our standard IRC logging
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:58] <mrayzenoss> and we'll try to do these with a little more frequency
[22-Jul-2008 15:57:01] <daMaestro> gah, even with ifHCInOctets and ifHCOutOctets the report graphs don't seem to be rendering :-/
[22-Jul-2008 15:57:46] <daMaestro> it would be very nice if we could inspect more about what the shipped reports use to generate data
[22-Jul-2008 15:58:01] <MAHerron> hey is it possible to run an 'SNMP GET' from within a transform?
[22-Jul-2008 15:58:11] <daMaestro> such /Reports/Performance Reports/Interface Utilization shows data, but i'd like to be able to graph that data on a custom multi-graph report
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:16] <mrayzenoss> Thanks everybody, later
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:30] <MAHerron> waiiiiit
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:34] <MAHerron> pleasse
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:42] <MAHerron> run an 'SNMP GET' from within a transform?
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:45] <MAHerron> possible?
[22-Jul-2008 16:01:00] <daMaestro> intf_ifInOctets seems to not be working, either
[22-Jul-2008 16:01:39] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: I'm not sure. I don't believe I've seen that done
[22-Jul-2008 16:01:56] <MAHerron> fiddlesticks
[22-Jul-2008 16:02:50] <Johnny312> question
[22-Jul-2008 16:02:51] <ckrough> daMaestro: try ifHCInOctets_ifHCInOctets ?
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:23] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: ericnewton says you can probably do it, it might be slow
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:30] <daMaestro> i'll try that now, as i've noticed that Available RRD Variables == None with what i'm trying to do
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:42] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: post it on the forums, I'll try to get it some attention
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:57] <Johnny312> how can i load net snmp module on vmware of zenoss ?
[22-Jul-2008 16:04:10] <daMaestro> Available RRD Variables still == None
[22-Jul-2008 16:04:24] <mrayzenoss> Johnny312: I believe it's already on
[22-Jul-2008 16:04:27] <MAHerron> mrayzenoss: i belive its on there, let me get you a link
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:15] <Johnny312> well then why do get a error about it missing
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:29] <mrayzenoss> Johnny312: is it a 2.2 VM?
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:33] <Johnny312> yes
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:52] <daMaestro> ckrough, http://fpaste.org/paste/3790 is what it's trying to do.. but nothing on the other side
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:58] <MAHerron> mrayzenoss: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6662&highlight=snmp
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:01] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3790 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:18] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - USING SNMP GET (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:45] <jb> anybody here used the "Improved Linux Monitoring" zenpack?
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:51] <jb> wondering what exactly it does..
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:56] <ckrough> daMaestro wh
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:59] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: I'll get a dev to look at it
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:00] <ckrough> which report is that
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:20] <MAHerron> mrayzenoss: many thanks, much appreciated
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:23] <mrayzenoss> jb: that came from the ZenPacks forum, there are a few people on there who said they were using it
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:24] <daMaestro> ckrough, i'm trying to add a new multi-graph report
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:31] <mrayzenoss> by everybody
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:35] <mrayzenoss> bye that is
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:35] <jb> Ok, I will check..
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:39] <Johnny312> I get a "Can't locate Net/SNMP.pm"
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:54] <daMaestro> Johnny312, you need to install the perl module it seems
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:58] <jb> install Net::SNMP
[22-Jul-2008 16:08:07] <Johnny312> i tried
[22-Jul-2008 16:08:14] <Johnny312> using cpan
[22-Jul-2008 16:08:18] <daMaestro> the vm instance is rpath.. an i don't know how to install stuff
[22-Jul-2008 16:09:34] <Johnny312> yes it is and I can not find the module to load
[22-Jul-2008 16:09:42] <kong> Hello
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:17] <ckrough> daMaestro: are you trying to add a custom CDEF or VDEF to a multigraph?
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:25] <jeld> I have a 2.2 install from an RPM. Events don't seem to be getting event class key, is this a known problem and is there a fix?
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:28] <daMaestro> ckrough, i don't know
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:32] <Johnny312> I tried cpan but can not find make to complete the install
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:58] <kong> I have a problem with zenoos, two services has stopped working. Zenhub and zenjmx. focusin on zenhub and reading de forums i tried to delete de cache file but it didnt work
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:03] <daMaestro> ckrough, i'm attempting to add a new graph for the collection that graphs the interface stats for all the collection
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:21] <daMaestro> ckrough, i'm to the point where i need to add data points for the graph
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:37] <daMaestro> ckrough, i have load/cpu/mem and other custom OIDs graphing
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:41] <kong> any help would be apreciated. thanks
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:44] <daMaestro> but i'd really like to get the interfaces graphed
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:54] <MAHerron> kong: ive had problems where zenmodeler was eating up system resources and caused the hub to hang on multiple occasions... not sure about zenjmx though
[22-Jul-2008 16:12:16] <MAHerron> kong: i commented out zenmodeler in config, and have not seen the hub hang since
[22-Jul-2008 16:12:47] <ckrough> daMaestro: yeah, it iterates throught the datapoints and deals with the "__render_with_namespace__", but you lose access to those individual values in the RPN
[22-Jul-2008 16:13:09] <ckrough> daMaestro I ran into the same limitation trying to create aggregate multigraphs
[22-Jul-2008 16:13:14] <kong> hi HAHerron, i have zenmodeler running and the system is at 4%
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:05] <daMaestro> damnit
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:16] <daMaestro> ckrough, do you know if this is planned to be fixed? or are we just sol?
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:27] <ckrough> daMaestro are you trying to aggregate, or just have one graph per interface?
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:28] <MAHerron> kong: well, hard for me to say then
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:11] <daMaestro> ckrough, currently, just one graph per interface
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:24] <daMaestro> ckrough, i mean: /Reports/Performance Reports/Aggregate Reports net i/o works
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:35] <daMaestro> and it's like.. damnit... i want to do something similar with my custom multigraph reports
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:42] <kong> HAHerron in what file did you commented out zenmodeler?
[22-Jul-2008 16:19:07] <jeld> Hi, all my event class mappings do not work, I think the reason is that no events get event class key set, how do I fix this?
[22-Jul-2008 16:19:24] <kong> both services start but after few seconds they stop. There is no info in the zenhub log
[22-Jul-2008 16:21:51] <mistich> the thing is about zenmodler is if you have zendisc running at the same time zenmodler runs it will chew up your hub
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:04] <mistich> because zendisc uses zenmodler also
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:13] <kong> if i run zenhub service using "run" instead of "start" i can see using the netstat command that there is a service listening in de 8789 port
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:14] <MAHerron> kong: sorry, the file is $zenhome/bin/zenoss
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:20] <jb> ah, i like the Improved Linux Zenpack
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:22] <jb> nice stuff.
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:23] <mistich> so you have 2 zenmodlers running and trying to access the zope databse
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:47] <mistich> JB what does it add
[22-Jul-2008 16:25:52] <jb> detailed CPU/memory graphs
[22-Jul-2008 16:26:55] <kong> I comented out the zenmodeler in the zenoss file, but there is no change. The zenhub service stops after few seconds
[22-Jul-2008 16:27:44] <MAHerron> kong: the process itself stops?
[22-Jul-2008 16:27:49] <kong> yes
[22-Jul-2008 16:28:02] <MAHerron> okay weird
[22-Jul-2008 16:28:09] <kong> it starts but only few secons
[22-Jul-2008 16:28:32] <MAHerron> and then just disappears into the world.. is the pid file still there at all?
[22-Jul-2008 16:31:15] <kong> the process dissapears, There is a pid file in $ZENOSSHOME/var/zenhub-localhost.pid
[22-Jul-2008 16:35:09] <kong> deleting the pid file doesnt work
[22-Jul-2008 16:41:53] <MAHerron> kong: beats me man, perhaps it warrants a forum post
[22-Jul-2008 16:43:45] <kong> MAHerron i will post it in the forum. thanks for your help.
[22-Jul-2008 16:44:01] <kong> good bye
[22-Jul-2008 16:47:01] <mistich> MAHerron did you get it fixed
[22-Jul-2008 16:47:46] <MAHerron> mistich: what was that the snmp get im workin on?
[22-Jul-2008 16:47:55] <MAHerron> or kong's prob?
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:09] <mistich> kongs problem
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:18] <mistich> I guess about zenhub
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:37] <MAHerron> no i think he's going to be posting to the forum
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:52] <MAHerron> seems the process quits on him
[22-Jul-2008 16:49:08] <mistich> oh ok
[22-Jul-2008 16:49:17] <mistich> what problem are you having?
[22-Jul-2008 16:49:34] <MAHerron> me? i just am trying to see if SNMP Get will work in a transform
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:02] <MAHerron> apparently they havnt seen anyone try, so who knows
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:11] <mistich> your tying to do a snmpget in a transform
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:22] <MAHerron> correct5
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:27] <jeld> can someone help me with my event class mapping problem?
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:58] <mistich> the snmget should work as long as your using the python class snmp
[22-Jul-2008 16:51:09] <mistich> jeld what the problem
[22-Jul-2008 16:51:52] <jeld> mistich, mappings do not work, either the default ones or the ones I define
[22-Jul-2008 16:52:12] <mistich> anykind of errors?
[22-Jul-2008 16:52:26] <jeld> mistich, I think this is because event class key doesn't get set anywhere
[22-Jul-2008 16:52:50] <mistich> and when you mean don't work what do you mean by don't work?
[22-Jul-2008 16:53:27] <mistich> a event comes in and it's eventClass is set to unknown
[22-Jul-2008 16:53:39] <jeld> mistich, events do not get mapped to anything besides Unknown
[22-Jul-2008 16:54:02] <mistich> what version are you running
[22-Jul-2008 16:54:50] <jeld> mistich, 2.2 from an RPM
[22-Jul-2008 16:56:40] <mistich> ok can you do this for me
[22-Jul-2008 16:56:47] <mistich> Run zendmd from the command line as the zenoss user
[22-Jul-2008 16:58:19] <mistich> also can you find a class that has a event in it
[22-Jul-2008 16:58:36] <jeld> mistich, OK, I am at the prompt
[22-Jul-2008 16:59:25] <MAHerron> bin/zendmd
[22-Jul-2008 16:59:33] <mistich> yes
[22-Jul-2008 16:59:35] <mistich> sorry
[22-Jul-2008 17:00:36] <jeld> mistich, I have 2 events that got mapped to a class, one from OSprocess and one from snmpperf
[22-Jul-2008 17:01:11] <jeld> mistich, but all the syslog and snmp traps do not get mapped to anything
[22-Jul-2008 17:01:12] <saiber> hello zenoss masters, i have a little issue monitoring windows server, may i ask a question?
[22-Jul-2008 17:01:42] <mistich> ok so syslog and snmp traps are the only things that don't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:02:32] <mistich> or do some events work besides syslog and snmp traps
[22-Jul-2008 17:04:11] <mistich> jeld is it just syslog and snmp traps
[22-Jul-2008 17:04:44] <Johnny312> question about adding a ip service
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:22] <mistich> whats the question and I'll see if I can give it a shot
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:32] <jeld> mistich, I don't know, I have exactly 2 events which are not syslog or snmp trap
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:33] <saiber> eeer no well, the issue is when i add the windows host, it appears thats goes fine
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:45] <saiber> but then i got some info alarm
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:02] <Johnny312> i have a device on the Internet and have it in the device/ping group
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:02] <saiber> that said that the oid for cpu and memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:04] <saiber> are bad
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:07] <mistich> jeld what are the event summary that are not working
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:43] <mistich> johnney what type of device is it?
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:49] <jeld> mistich, how do I get that?
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:53] <Johnny312> game server
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:02] <Johnny312> win2003
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:29] <mistich> does the server have snmpd installed or is this a machine you do not have access to
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:33] <Johnny312> I have not SNMP or acces to the device
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:47] <Johnny312> no access
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:04] <Johnny312> I want to monitor the a udp/tcp port
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:08] <mistich> go to the class Devices/ping
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:18] <mistich> look under templates tab
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:28] <Johnny312> k
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:59] <mistich> you should have a custom Device template you can tell its custom because inder definition Path you should see /Devices/Ping
[22-Jul-2008 17:09:01] <jeld> mistich, ?
[22-Jul-2008 17:09:46] <mistich> Jelid go to the event console and under the event you should see the event and the summary of the event
[22-Jul-2008 17:10:23] <mistich> jeld the 3rd column in the event console
[22-Jul-2008 17:10:48] <mistich> johnny is there a custom template under /devices/ping
[22-Jul-2008 17:10:54] <Johnny312> no
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:05] <mistich> ok thats your problem
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:14] <mistich> do not edit the one that says devices
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:20] <mistich> to fix the issue
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:28] <jeld> mistich, there are all sorts of events there, I have over 1500 events in Unknown
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:09] <mistich> jeld just five me one
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:14] <jeld> mistich, here is a sample one (root) CMD (perl /usr/local/bin/get-crash-stats)
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:37] <jeld> mistich, from what I gather this should get mapped by one of the default rules
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:45] <mistich> nope
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:05] <mistich> syslog does not map by default as far as I know
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:12] <mistich> mine come in as unknown
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:12] <jeld> mistich, here is another one, this one is from snmpd Connection from UDP: [127.0.0.1]:37074
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:45] <mistich> Johnny now add a new template by click the down arrow new template
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:00] <Johnny312> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:03] <mistich> Name it Device
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:37] <mistich> and leave it blank and it will not poll for cpu or memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:38] <Johnny312> there is one Device /Devices/Ping Blank Template.
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:47] <jeld> mistich, there are 2 mappings for cron, one under /App/Log and another under /Ignore they look like they should match those cron entries. I tried to make my own mapping with evt.component == "snmpd" for the rule and that didn't work either
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:59] <mistich> ok well if there is one check to make sure its empty
[22-Jul-2008 17:15:08] <Johnny312> it is
[22-Jul-2008 17:15:28] <mistich> well it should not poll for cpu
[22-Jul-2008 17:15:45] <mistich> jeid lets look at the /Ignore
[22-Jul-2008 17:16:02] <saiber> eeeh mistich, but if u have snmp for the windows server, why it does retrieve a bad oid for cpu or memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:16:49] <jeld> mistich, OK /Events/Ignore/CROND has \(root\) CMD \(run-parts /etc/cron.\S+\) regex
[22-Jul-2008 17:16:49] <mistich> but he does not have access to the snmpd its a game server on the internet
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:04] <saiber> :S what can i do in my case
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:31] <mistich> saiber on min
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:35] <saiber> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:52] <jeld> mistich, which will not match the event that I sent but should match this: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly)
[22-Jul-2008 17:18:28] <mistich> Jeld what is your regex set too
[22-Jul-2008 17:18:48] <jeld> mistich, ?
[22-Jul-2008 17:19:09] <jeld> mistich, in my custom mapping? to nothing, I thought the Rule was enough
[22-Jul-2008 17:19:28] <mistich> go to the event such as http://loaclhost:8080/zport/dmd/Events/Syslog/instances/BGP-5-ADJCHANGE_DOWN
[22-Jul-2008 17:19:57] <mistich> from there click edit
[22-Jul-2008 17:20:35] <mistich> for you it would be http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Events/Ignore/CROND/eventClassInstEdit
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:21] <mistich> you there?
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:40] <jeld> mistich, doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:52] <jeld> mistich, hold on, I will just click through
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:58] <mistich> jeld let me show you a example of one I did
[22-Jul-2008 17:22:33] <mistich> example syslog neighbor 10.10.10.10 Down Interface flap or neighbor 10.10.10.10 Down BGP Notification sent
[22-Jul-2008 17:22:46] <mistich> heres the syslog message I get in
[22-Jul-2008 17:22:55] <jeld> mistich, OK, I am on the edit page of the /Events/Ignore/CROND
[22-Jul-2008 17:23:10] <mistich> in the Regex I put ^neighbor \b\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\b Down
[22-Jul-2008 17:23:48] <mistich> every thing else on my page is blank
[22-Jul-2008 17:24:24] <mistich> so for you
[22-Jul-2008 17:24:47] <jeld> mistich, OK, but as I mentioned, there are events that should have matched existing mappings and they do not get mapped. I think there is something wrong with the whole matching mechanism not with any particular mapping
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:19] <mistich> Rule: BLANK
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:19] <mistich> Regex: ^(root) CMD (run-parts
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:38] <mistich> Transform: BLANK
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:41] <jeld> mistich, I do not want to map those CROND messages to /Ignore, but the rule is there from the install and it doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:08] <jeld> mistich, and no matter what I put in my custom mappings it also doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:12] <netdata> Hi Guys
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:20] <netdata> are there still some devs here?
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:28] <mistich> nope there gone
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:07] <netdata> oh damn it's a pitty
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:12] <netdata> does anyone have a log?
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:22] <mistich> nope my client died
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:38] <Johnny312> think i do
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:45] <mistich> but there is a zenoss-logger I think its on zenoss website some where
[22-Jul-2008 17:28:28] <mistich> Jeld sounds like more than a messed up transform put it on the forum and someone else might be able to help you
[22-Jul-2008 17:29:26] <jeld> mistich, I will try to reinstall clean from the installer (as opposed to RPM) and see if that makes it any better, then I guess I will post on the forum
[22-Jul-2008 17:30:15] <Johnny312> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:30:47] <Johnny312> so device/ping templates
[22-Jul-2008 17:31:17] <otakup0pe> so anyone use zenplugin.py
[22-Jul-2008 17:31:27] <otakup0pe> the apache plugin seems to be causing a race condition :3
[22-Jul-2008 17:34:07] <saiber> .... all gome?
[22-Jul-2008 17:34:12] <saiber> gone*
[22-Jul-2008 17:35:09] <netdata> no still here
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:01] <saiber> so does anyone have the issue monitoring windows servers
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:24] <Johnny312> only 2008 ones
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:49] <netdata> I don't use windows servers
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:54] <Johnny312> what issue u having
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:54] <netdata> so I can't help you
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:58] <TBKdan> No issues monitoring 2k3...
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:59] <saiber> well
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:05] <saiber> i have snmp access
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:13] <saiber> and snmpwalk is working
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:17] <Johnny312> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:20] <saiber> when i start monitoring it
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:36] <saiber> i got a bad oid reading alert for cpu andmemory ussage
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:42] <saiber> and i cant get it working
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:47] <TBKdan> Because you're still using snmp informant template
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:48] <saiber> is an windows 2000 server
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:53] <Johnny312> did u load snmp informant ?
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:00] <saiber> errr nou
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:00] <TBKdan> Two choices: 1) remove the template 2) install snmp informant
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:11] <saiber> snmp informant
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:14] <saiber> what is that?
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:19] <TBKdan> I chose to remove the template and use the WMI template to get the same info
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:32] <saiber> heheheh well i cant use wmi
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:33] <TBKdan> It's an extension to the windows snmp stuff... gives some more data like memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:38] <saiber> coz i dont admin access to the server
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:10] <saiber> hmmmm
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:14] <saiber> thats sounds interetins
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:15] <TBKdan> If you can deal without the memory/cpu info, it's probably easiest to just delete the informant template
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:39] <saiber> where can i find snmp informant
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:45] <TBKdan> Google
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:54] <saiber> xD
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:14] <saiber> even so great advice man, but one more question
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:18] <Johnny312> a admin will have to install it on the server
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:28] <TBKdan> Yup
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:48] <saiber> if i get same oid error with cisco routerts for the interfaces, but i can monitoring their performance with ip service
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:53] <TBKdan> If it's a 2k box, WMI access is easier to get (don't need admin rights, but it still needs to be configged)
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:56] <netdata> are there enterprise customers here?
[22-Jul-2008 17:42:43] <TBKdan> I've never dealt with cisco snmp, so can't help ya there.
[22-Jul-2008 17:43:11] <magnachef> I have web servers that have an interface for administration and a different interface/IPs for production stuff. Will my IPService tests perform http IPService checks against all IPs?
[22-Jul-2008 17:43:52] <saiber> ok thanxs for the grea advice tbkdan, is it hard to use snmp informant with zenoss??
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:11] <TBKdan> saiber: No, you just install it and off you go.
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:21] <TBKdan> Since you already have snmp installed and working
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:49] <saiber> oohhis like a clear implementation, no config required?
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:59] <mistich> yes one enterprise here?
[22-Jul-2008 17:45:30] <TBKdan> Nope, all it does is add some extra info to snmp (cpu/memory/disk stats)
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:09] <saiber> exellent man thaxs, really great advice, if it work i ll thank you in the forum
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:28] <TBKdan> magnachef: I'm not sure of the default, but if you go and edit the service on the OS page you see the field for "ip addresses"
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:30] <TBKdan> np saiber
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:49] <TBKdan> magnachef: I'm assuming that will do what you want...
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:57] <magnachef> yeah, it found the IPs by default
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:49] <TBKdan> So it sees them, you're just wondering if it's testing across all those ip/port combos?
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:52] <magnachef> I just wanted to make sure it tested against all of them
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:55] <magnachef> yeah
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:55] <TBKdan> wireshark?
[22-Jul-2008 17:48:19] <TBKdan> Probably the easiest and most surefire way to check...
[22-Jul-2008 17:54:31] <magnachef> yeah
[22-Jul-2008 18:58:39] <Shylock> Was there a howto floating around on how to add menu items to the UI?
[22-Jul-2008 19:22:22] <waa> in zenoss install path(/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/) have a lot a mibs, how can use that? I add a cisco router device but Zenoss don't get all info from the device
[22-Jul-2008 19:23:26] <Gamekiller77> waa: you have to upload all the mibs from ciscos website to (/usr/localzenoss/common/share/mibs/site
[22-Jul-2008 19:23:35] <Gamekiller77> it so much fun
[22-Jul-2008 19:24:02] <Gamekiller77> after the upload i notice it has to have the right perms make sure zenoss user has access to them
[22-Jul-2008 19:26:05] <waa> Gamekiller77, I'm trying to use zenmib, if I only copy to site folder it will run?
[22-Jul-2008 19:26:29] <waa> with the correct permisions
[22-Jul-2008 19:27:28] <Gamekiller77> yup
[22-Jul-2008 19:27:38] <Gamekiller77> you may need to find some depent mibs too
[22-Jul-2008 19:28:01] <Gamekiller77> some time you need like RFC1213 or this or that make sure you have them. The cisco site list them all
[22-Jul-2008 19:28:25] <Gamekiller77> i used this http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/netmgmt/cmtk/mibs.shtml
[22-Jul-2008 19:28:39] <adytum-bot^> Title: Network Management Software (at www.cisco.com)
[22-Jul-2008 20:16:17] <davetoo> So how do I prematurely kill a maintenance window?
[22-Jul-2008 20:58:26] <davetoo> feh
[22-Jul-2008 20:58:35] <davetoo> zenmodeler -p option doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 21:39:25] <davetoo> grr
[22-Jul-2008 21:43:54] <dwang> where can I find the script of this morning' talk?
[22-Jul-2008 21:49:14] <daMaestro> i could post a log if need be
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[23-Jul-2008 09:04:08] <]V[> hi channel
[23-Jul-2008 09:14:49] <]V[> my perf graph
[23-Jul-2008 09:29:27] <]V[> stopped working and gives a lengthy error
[23-Jul-2008 09:29:30] <]V[> any hints ?
[23-Jul-2008 09:29:53] <]V[> googling was a dissapointment so far
[23-Jul-2008 10:09:43] <rad73> anyone had any luck with manually adding snmp v3 devices
[23-Jul-2008 10:09:54] <rad73> for some wierd reason it only seems to work when using discovery
[23-Jul-2008 10:10:18] <rad73> otherwise you get a "no snmp found for ip" error
[23-Jul-2008 10:42:53] <rad73> Looks like the support for snmp v3 in zenoss is broken
[23-Jul-2008 11:26:09] <]V[> this channel is asleep i assume ? :-)
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[23-Jul-2008 13:01:35] * Shylock wakes up
[23-Jul-2008 13:02:03] <Shylock> ]V[: can you confirm that the snmperf daemon is running? Do you have any Heartbeat events?
[23-Jul-2008 13:09:13] * ]V[ checks
[23-Jul-2008 13:10:42] <]V[> zenoss 2454 1 0 Jul17 ? 01:18:01 /usr/lib/zope/bin/python /home/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /home/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf --cycle --daemon
[23-Jul-2008 13:11:05] <]V[> sorry, that's something else obviously
[23-Jul-2008 13:12:13] <Shylock> When you say you get a lengthy error, Do you mean that inside the web portal you get a python stack trace?
[23-Jul-2008 13:15:48] <]V[> euhm... when i click "view error details"i get Type: attributeError Value: Totalblocks traceback (innermost last)
[23-Jul-2008 13:15:57] <]V[> followed by a list of modules
[23-Jul-2008 13:17:03] <]V[> ah here it is : http://pastebin.com/d71489056
[23-Jul-2008 13:17:38] <]V[> you mean heartbeat running on the zenoss box ?
[23-Jul-2008 13:17:49] <]V[> we do run heartbeat on a monitorred system
[23-Jul-2008 13:22:00] <Shylock> Heatbeat events are created when the various zenoss daemons fail to reset a watchdog timer.
[23-Jul-2008 13:22:35] <]V[> ah ok, excuse my noobness :/
[23-Jul-2008 13:22:54] <Shylock> Nothing to excuse. I didn't know what they were until a couple weeks ago.
[23-Jul-2008 13:23:02] <]V[> hehe
[23-Jul-2008 13:23:48] <Shylock> if you are getting tracebacks though, then something is happening when zenoss tries to render the page.
[23-Jul-2008 13:23:53] <]V[> would a restart of zenoss (thus all daemons) fix it (momentarily?)
[23-Jul-2008 13:24:12] <]V[> ah ok, so i have another problem
[23-Jul-2008 13:24:38] <Shylock> Ah
[23-Jul-2008 13:24:38] <Shylock> Ok
[23-Jul-2008 13:25:28] <Shylock> So.. you see the actual error is the last couple lines of that traceback. 'here.totalBlocks * .95' AttributeError: totalBlocks
[23-Jul-2008 13:26:25] <Shylock> Somehow the component you are trying to graph (Probably a filesystem) lost its settings for the number of total blocks it has.
[23-Jul-2008 13:27:05] <Shylock> that sounds like a modeler issue. I'm afraid I don't know /why/ it would happen though.
[23-Jul-2008 13:28:25] <Shylock> You might want to make sure that snmpwalk still works against the server from zenoss.
[23-Jul-2008 13:28:47] <Shylock> If it does, then try remodeling the device.
[23-Jul-2008 13:39:04] <]V[> wow thanks a bunch Shylock . i was really on a dead end
[23-Jul-2008 14:05:32] <]V[> i smell a victory nearby :-)
[23-Jul-2008 14:05:34] <]V[> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14712
[23-Jul-2008 14:05:51] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - binding device and filesystem templates results in error (at community.zenoss.com)
[23-Jul-2008 14:06:03] <]V[> adytum-bot^: v
[23-Jul-2008 14:06:04] <adytum-bot^> ]V[: Error: 'v' is not a valid command.
[23-Jul-2008 14:06:30] <]V[> hehe just curious if it was a gozerbot
[23-Jul-2008 14:14:45] <rad73> Does anyone have any knowledge of how the event mechanism works, from a programming perspective
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:07] <]V[> Thanks a bunch Shylock
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:16] <]V[> the article pasted earlier solved it clean
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:16] <rad73> I've added new collector plugins for the modeler and can display all my data from the new info....
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:35] <rad73> but I'm not clear how I raise events based on the information I've now got
[23-Jul-2008 14:25:21] <Shylock> You want to raise events from inside of which daemon?
[23-Jul-2008 14:25:32] <Shylock> Or is this something comming in asycronously?
[23-Jul-2008 14:27:15] <Shylock> ]V[: No problem, glad I could be of some help.
[23-Jul-2008 14:31:36] <rad73> Shylock maybe I just don't understand how the event mechanism works....
[23-Jul-2008 14:32:17] <rad73> but once I've modelled my collector plugin I want to be able to analyse this data and raise events if something needs attention
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:01] <Shylock> The modelers only run every 12 hours.
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:06] <rad73> ah ok
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:11] <Shylock> So what you probably want is a performance monitor
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:20] <Shylock> (Like the interface graphs)
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:46] <rad73> I think I've seen something about adding a performance monitor without the graph bit
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:48] <Shylock> you don't actually have to graph anything, but you can collect data every polling cycle, and then set thresholds for it.
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:09] <Shylock> They will then automatically raise events when they cross the threshold.
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:12] <rad73> how often is the polling cycle?
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:19] <rad73> or is that the 12 hour thing?
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:20] <Shylock> default is every 5 minutes
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:25] <rad73> ok
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:26] <rad73> is that the zenperfsnmp daemon?
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:35] <Shylock> Yes.
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:42] <rad73> ok cool I'll check the source for it
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:45] <Shylock> You shouldn't have to do any programming per-se
[23-Jul-2008 14:36:09] <rad73> btw we have some critical items that need polling more frequently...
[23-Jul-2008 14:36:13] <Shylock> just perf templates that referance the new modeled vars using TALES expressions.
[23-Jul-2008 14:36:21] <Shylock> Ah...
[23-Jul-2008 14:37:05] <Shylock> Well... then you might have trouble. You can set the polling cycle for /everything/ to be shorter, but to the best of my knowlege you can not set specific items to be polled at different frequencies.
[23-Jul-2008 14:37:48] <rad73> do u think it might be possible to create a 2nd subclassed perfmon daemon that checks only a few things but more regularly?
[23-Jul-2008 14:37:51] <rad73> or something like that
[23-Jul-2008 14:38:31] <Shylock> Yes. Or you can run 2 polling servers on the same hardware... I know that Zenoss has helped some enterprise customers set that up
[23-Jul-2008 14:39:01] <Shylock> So you would have a localhost Collector and a localhost2 collector.. something like that.
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:18] <rad73> ah ok.... so the properties for how often the various collecting for performance monitoring and the modelling is controlled by the settings in the collector?
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:27] <Shylock> yes
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:33] <rad73> oh that's cool
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:44] <Shylock>
[23-Jul-2008 14:41:12] <rad73> so by adding the devices to different collectors I can set up different modelling and perfmon poll frequencies
[23-Jul-2008 14:42:15] <Shylock> For your earlier question on alerts on newly modeled data.. Take a look at the Zenpacks for FTP and HTTP monitoring.
[23-Jul-2008 14:42:41] <rad73> ok thanks Shylock you've been a huge help
[23-Jul-2008 14:43:09] <Shylock> They create new datacollector interfaces that can then monitor new data sources.
[23-Jul-2008 14:43:14] <Shylock> No problem
[23-Jul-2008 14:44:07] <rad73> Oh you mean like a DataCollector/plugin for mapping other data (like other snmp mibs) onto your devices?
[23-Jul-2008 14:46:49] <Shylock> If it is snmp, you just need to type in the correct OIDs into your performance template. Those plugins add new protocols for data collection
[23-Jul-2008 14:47:34] <Shylock> the snmperf daemon doesn't do symbolic lookups. You have to enter .1.3.xxxxxx
[23-Jul-2008 14:48:40] <Shylock> But what it will do is if you have a template named the same as a device component, then it will take the index of each instance of that component and append it to a new performance monitor.
[23-Jul-2008 14:49:21] <Shylock> That way one template will apply to all filesystems, or interfaces. (Interfaces are actually a little more complex in that the system will look for a template named the same as the interface type)
[23-Jul-2008 14:50:44] <rad73> ok I will take a look, sounds just like what I need
[23-Jul-2008 14:50:45] <Shylock> I'm not sure if there is a good example of adding new component types to the device class. There is one in the enterprise version...
[23-Jul-2008 14:51:35] <rad73> Well I've managed to create 2 new snmp data collector plugins, a new sub classed device with different tabs (new and modified originals) and got it all wrapped up in a zenpack
[23-Jul-2008 14:51:45] <rad73> so I'm definitely learning about zenoss
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:22] <Shylock> Ok.
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:28] <Shylock> So more that I have done
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:47] <rad73> If I get the time I hope to write up my experiences
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:56] <rad73> some of it was none trivial to figure out
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:17] <Shylock> I wouldn't mind taking a look at your zenpacks if they are releaseable.
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:28] <Shylock> Wow.. My spelling is awful...
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:52] <rad73> well some of the content is commercial confidential
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:58] <rad73> but I hope to remove that so I can share
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:59] <Shylock> Understood.
[23-Jul-2008 14:54:29] <rad73> I have to document what I did as part of the work so I hope they will let me do it as an open excercise to be shared
[23-Jul-2008 14:54:35] <Shylock> is you company thinking to get the enterprise version of zenoss?
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:07] <Shylock> We did that, and we get pretty good support from them on the programming API.
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:09] <rad73> I very much doubt it, only case would be if we can't do what we want to do without direct help/support
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:26] <rad73> but so far I've figured out everything we need
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:34] <Shylock> Free is nice too.
[23-Jul-2008 14:57:02] <rad73> on the positive side.... I've seen a lot of people asking for the stuff I've done.... so everyone benefits if I get to write it up and post it on the zenoss community wiki
[23-Jul-2008 14:58:43] <Shylock> Absolutely. I've actually got a project to add a new device subclass for Hatteras EFM gear. I need to be able to show all the CPE devices connected to the core unit. An example of how to add tabs for new components would be awsome.
[23-Jul-2008 15:00:39] <rad73> Yeah I'd have found that awesome too about a week and a half ago
[23-Jul-2008 15:00:48] <Shylock> Heh
[23-Jul-2008 15:00:51] <rad73> instead of mostly banging my head against the zenoss wall
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:18] <rad73> ok gotta go
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:21] <Shylock> Unfortunately I don't get to focus on zenoss much. My actual job is network design, not monitorin
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:24] <Shylock> See you
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:29] <rad73> but thanks for ur help
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:30] <rad73>
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:33] <Shylock> No problem
[23-Jul-2008 16:49:17] <MuseHome> just moved to 2.2 and I'm still not getting File System status (Unknown). i can get the info using snmpwalk.
[23-Jul-2008 17:11:44] <MuseHome> So it looks like my /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/BAFS01BR02/os/filesystems/ dirs are empty?
[23-Jul-2008 17:17:11] <MuseHome> Hi
[23-Jul-2008 17:36:29] <MuseHome> is there a way to have zenoss recreate all the filesystems RRD files?
[23-Jul-2008 18:22:06] <MuseHome> Unable to fill collection slots: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): rrdtool.error: illegal attempt to update using time 1216837341 when last update time is 1216944000 (minimum one second step) ]
[23-Jul-2008 18:22:24] <MuseHome> getting this now just adding a new device. what gives?
[23-Jul-2008 18:31:49] <mib_5lkuup> will I be able to capture any more info by installing a syslog server on my windows boxen than with the snmp agent and zenwin?
[23-Jul-2008 18:33:41] <TBKdan> MuseHome: Almost sounds like you went back in time o.O
[23-Jul-2008 18:34:42] <TBKdan> mib_5lkuup: more info as in..? If your windows syslog is just pushing out windows events, it'll be no different than zenwin with WMI.
[23-Jul-2008 18:38:55] <mib_5lkuup> that answers my question
[23-Jul-2008 18:40:45] <MuseHome> i am working on a dev system. i have a 2.1.1 system that i backed up in restored to my dev systems. then i upgraded to 2.2
[23-Jul-2008 18:42:19] <MuseHome> the 2.1.1 install didn't have the filesystem info on it. i was hoping that going to 2.2, i could get it working.
[23-Jul-2008 18:42:36] <mib_5lkuup> when sending syslog to zenoss, should I send *.* or *.debug?
[23-Jul-2008 18:42:50] <mib_5lkuup> docs are different depending on where I look
[23-Jul-2008 19:40:42] <MuseHome> any one know the best way to move from 2.1.1 to 2.2 on a centos 5.1 system using the RPMs. or has anyone used the "zenoss-upgrade-instructions" with sussecfull migration?
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[23-Jul-2008 20:03:18] <netdata> Hi everone
[23-Jul-2008 20:03:23] <netdata> just a question
[23-Jul-2008 20:03:56] <netdata> I someone here from belgium?
[23-Jul-2008 20:12:48] <MuseHome> Help. i just reinstalled on DEV system. and added a server. i get all my stats. but if i use restore from a 2.1.1 install from production. it all seems to go to H3LL.
[23-Jul-2008 20:28:57] <Shylock> MuseHome: Sorry I understand your sequence of events
[23-Jul-2008 20:29:23] <Shylock> I don't understand I mean
[23-Jul-2008 20:29:54] <Shylock> netdata: No sorry, I'm in the U.S.
[23-Jul-2008 20:38:18] <MuseHome> no
[23-Jul-2008 20:38:19] <MuseHome> np
[23-Jul-2008 20:39:11] <MuseHome> Load server with 2.1.1
[23-Jul-2008 20:39:24] <MuseHome> then restore backup from production system.
[23-Jul-2008 20:39:39] <MuseHome> then use rpm -Uhv to upgrade to 2.2.
[23-Jul-2008 20:45:39] <MuseHome> So now that i have my old systems data in the new version(2.2) i need/want to get the filesystem data working. (unknown) but when i try to use model the device it don't add any RRD files.
[23-Jul-2008 21:01:56] <MuseHome> $zenmigrate
[23-Jul-2008 21:01:56] <MuseHome> WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(11683) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED
[23-Jul-2008 21:02:09] <MuseHome> is this because zenoss isn't running?
[23-Jul-2008 21:02:33] <davetoo> zeoctl and zopectl have to be running
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[23-Jul-2008 21:04:21] <MuseHome> is this ok? zenoss install 2.2 -> start zen -> stop zen -> zenrestore --file=x -> start zen -> zenmigrate
[23-Jul-2008 21:10:21] <mib_z0u38y> I'm getting regular zenwin/zeneventlog errors since upgrading to 2.2
[23-Jul-2008 21:10:25] <mib_z0u38y> see http://pastebin.com/d5deea127
[23-Jul-2008 21:52:10] <Neoteric> can I monitor things w/ zenoss w/o using SNMP?
[23-Jul-2008 21:52:38] <MAHerron> supports syslog
[23-Jul-2008 21:54:29] <Neoteric> so there is no agent like program for zenoss?
[23-Jul-2008 21:55:00] <MAHerron> nope
[23-Jul-2008 21:55:03] <Neoteric> or rather... can I configure snmp v3 to do things on far distributed topologies
[23-Jul-2008 21:55:03] <MAHerron> dont think so
[23-Jul-2008 22:14:05] <joseph_> do the stack installers upgrade themselves. for instance from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3?
[23-Jul-2008 22:52:59] <locohost> anyone know where the source of the https check
[23-Jul-2008 22:53:29] <locohost> i want to see if there is a way i can make it --no-check-certificate
[23-Jul-2008 23:45:33] <MuseHome> anyone there that could help with a migation? when do i add zenpacks?
[23-Jul-2008 23:55:30] <MuseHome> anyone there that could help with a migation? when do i add zenpacks?
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[24-Jul-2008 09:35:18] <Ozux> hi,
[24-Jul-2008 09:36:03] <Ozux> any body knows how can I graph Total bandwith Usage of one Server, Switch and ...? I need total monthly ....
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[24-Jul-2008 12:33:02] <MuseHome1> is this ok? zenoss install 2.2 -> start zen -> stop zen -> zenrestore --file=x -> start zen -> zenmigrate
[24-Jul-2008 12:33:29] <MuseHome1> Or do i need to add zen packs in there some where?
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[24-Jul-2008 14:06:05] <MuseHome1> What is the difference between "Native Packages" and "Stack Installers"
[24-Jul-2008 14:21:15] <MuseHome1> What is the difference between "Native Packages" and "Stack Installers"
[24-Jul-2008 14:23:46] <TBKdan> MuseHome1: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=163126&release_id=597291
[24-Jul-2008 14:23:52] <TBKdan> "One-click" installers differ from the native zenoss packages in that all external dependencies are rolled up into the "one-click" installers. You get the entire zenoss "stack" when you use the one-click installers, from the low level MySQL dependencies all the way up through the Zenoss python code. Since everything is included in the one-click installer, Zenoss installation is easier than ever.
[24-Jul-2008 14:24:00] <adytum-bot^> Title: SourceForge.net: Files (at sourceforge.net)
[24-Jul-2008 14:24:44] <MuseHome1> cool thanks.
[24-Jul-2008 14:25:23] <MuseHome1> will yum upgrade the mysql install and other dependencies as they need it?
[24-Jul-2008 14:25:46] <TBKdan> MuseHome1: If you use the stack installer you mean?
[24-Jul-2008 14:25:53] <MuseHome1> yes
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:14] <TBKdan> Dunno. I had better success with native on CentOS 5.2.
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:15] <MuseHome1> for securty updates and ect...
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:36] <MuseHome1> Ok I'll go that route.
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:46] <TBKdan> gl
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:58] <MuseHome1> did you do an upgrade from some ohter install of zenoss? like say 2.1
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:19] <TBKdan> Nope. Fresh install (just started using it recently)
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:30] <MuseHome1> k
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:31] <TBKdan> I just backed up the VM to try the 2.2.3 upgrade...
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:42] <TBKdan> *gulp*
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:47] <MuseHome1> :-)
[24-Jul-2008 14:39:21] <TBKdan> So far everything looks ok... all daemons running..
[24-Jul-2008 14:39:54] <MuseHome1> are you migrating and thing from the old install?
[24-Jul-2008 14:41:21] <TBKdan> I did an in-place upgrade from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3
[24-Jul-2008 14:42:09] <MuseHome1> So you where in 2.2... I'm still trying to get from 2.1.1 to 2.2.
[24-Jul-2008 14:42:25] <TBKdan> Yeah, I started with 2.2.0
[24-Jul-2008 14:50:58] <TBKdan> Hmm... I can't seem to add a device o.O
[24-Jul-2008 14:56:02] <MuseHome1> I've just added a device to my dev install of 2.2.3. wating for the 1st two polls to see something in my graphs.
[24-Jul-2008 15:09:24] <TBKdan> Possible bug... if you have autodiscovery disabled on the network of a device, it will not add the device..
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[24-Jul-2008 17:00:22] <MuseHome1> any ideas why i get this when I'm using a zenmigrate? AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'
[24-Jul-2008 17:08:30] <daMaestro> w00t 2.2.3
[24-Jul-2008 17:08:37] <daMaestro> good work guys
[24-Jul-2008 17:09:34] <daMaestro> does anyone know if there is a 2.1.3 -> 2.2.3 upgrade path?
[24-Jul-2008 17:09:43] <daMaestro> or are we better off rebuilding from the ground up?
[24-Jul-2008 17:10:25] <MuseHome1> I've been looking for the answer to that question for 2 days.
[24-Jul-2008 17:10:54] <MuseHome1> and been fighting with the up grade the hole time.
[24-Jul-2008 17:11:12] <MAHerron> anyone seen an issue with zensyslog stopping inexplicably?
[24-Jul-2008 17:33:03] <ckrough> havent had that happen
[24-Jul-2008 18:03:43] <MAHerron> oops, something else took over the zensyslog port after a server reboot
[24-Jul-2008 18:03:57] <MAHerron> that was why zensyslog daemon woudlnt start
[24-Jul-2008 18:03:59] <MAHerron> word
[24-Jul-2008 18:21:02] <linash> MAHerron, MS Word is using syslog port !!??
[24-Jul-2008 18:23:57] <MAHerron> linash: lol no, microsoft isn't allowed anywhere near my servers
[24-Jul-2008 18:24:22] <linash> I hope so
[24-Jul-2008 19:14:59] <ckrough> why would it not surprise me for MS to a) use a port for Word and b) use a standard port
[24-Jul-2008 19:23:32] <IoNu|z> i see all kind of fixes online.. is there a way to apply them all at once? or something like that?
[24-Jul-2008 19:24:56] <linash> install the new rpm?
[24-Jul-2008 19:26:38] <IoNu|z> like the fix for Last Collection
[24-Jul-2008 19:26:38] <IoNu|z> 1969/12/31 19:00:00.000
[24-Jul-2008 19:27:59] <IoNu|z> you need to add some lines in ModelerService.py
[24-Jul-2008 19:28:20] <IoNu|z> so iw as wondering if there is a way to do all the fixes at once....
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[24-Jul-2008 19:57:03] <IoNu|z> what does pricing per resource mean?
[24-Jul-2008 20:32:55] <MuseHome1> can someone point me to a doc about the localhost-config.pickle?
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[24-Jul-2008 21:37:53] <xanders> hi all, i am having a problem collecting uptime and hard disk info from my servers using zenoss. I can model a server with no errors yet none of this information is collected, wheni use snmpwalk the uptime is reported but not collected, any ideas?
[24-Jul-2008 21:38:49] <daMaestro> xanders, i ran into similar issues
[24-Jul-2008 21:39:04] <daMaestro> xanders, it was a "bug" with the remote snmp-agent.. as best i could tell
[24-Jul-2008 21:39:10] <daMaestro> aka rhel 4.x == fail
[24-Jul-2008 21:39:11] <daMaestro> lol
[24-Jul-2008 21:40:11] <xanders> it happens on all servers windows, linux, solaris. I even isntalled SNMP informant on the windows boxes which was suggested on a forum but made no difference
[24-Jul-2008 21:41:20] <xanders> The weird thing is that it reports the total size of my disks but not the used bytes and free bytes
[24-Jul-2008 21:49:00] <xanders> progress... if i run "zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d hostname" then the uptime and disk information is collected, why will it not do this automatically?
[24-Jul-2008 21:50:48] <daMaestro> xanders, what release?
[24-Jul-2008 21:58:22] <xanders> erm how can i find out?
[24-Jul-2008 22:05:45] <xanders> i also find that the zenperfsnmp service starts when i start the zenoss-stack then terminates straight after
[24-Jul-2008 22:14:30] <daMaestro> ldap_connect_system: Failed to retrieve password from secrets.tdb <---- boooooooooo
[24-Jul-2008 22:14:42] <daMaestro> oops, sorry that was an #openfiler complaint
[24-Jul-2008 22:15:02] <daMaestro> xanders, i dunno.. how did you install zenoss
[24-Jul-2008 22:15:03] <daMaestro> ?
[24-Jul-2008 22:15:55] <xanders> i think i may be onto something, i was getting access denied errors in zenperfsmp logs
[24-Jul-2008 22:16:20] <xanders> i have corrected this and now the service starts and stays running, just doing a model of a device now
[24-Jul-2008 22:25:39] <xanders> no luck still doesn't collect, im starting to think this might not be worth the hassle if i cant even get basic stuff working
[24-Jul-2008 22:39:36] <daMaestro> xanders, what version?
[24-Jul-2008 22:53:02] <xanders> how can i tell which version?
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[24-Jul-2008 23:41:38] <daMaestro> lame. i have the same issue with 2.2.3
[24-Jul-2008 23:44:48] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3497
[24-Jul-2008 23:44:55] <daMaestro> i was really hoping this would be fixed.
[24-Jul-2008 23:44:55] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3497 (ethernetCsmacd Template Failures) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[24-Jul-2008 23:49:25] <daMaestro> gah, and it seems that locking interfaces still doesn't work
[24-Jul-2008 23:49:51] <daMaestro> adding an ip service is b0rked
[24-Jul-2008 23:50:32] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498
[24-Jul-2008 23:50:40] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Adding IP service is broken) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
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[25-Jul-2008 04:19:49] <otakup0pe> ok so i have a host that is generating events under two device classes
[25-Jul-2008 04:19:50] <otakup0pe> for some reason
[25-Jul-2008 04:19:55] <otakup0pe>
[25-Jul-2008 04:20:12] <otakup0pe> it's only in one device class of course
[25-Jul-2008 04:20:23] <otakup0pe> what's the modus operandi here... delete and recreate ?
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[25-Jul-2008 15:06:14] <daMaestro> anyone had *any* success with 2.2.3?
[25-Jul-2008 15:33:40] <daMaestro> gah
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:10] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3497#comment:1 ... so i can manually walk these OIDs
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:24] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3497 (ethernetCsmacd Template Failures) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:25] <daMaestro> however, if zenoss is expecting a 0 index, it's wrong:
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:50] <daMaestro> # snmpwalk -c censored-v2c linuxserver1.tld 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.0
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:50] <daMaestro> 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.0: Unknown Object Identifier (Index out of range: 0 (ifIndex))
[25-Jul-2008 15:47:31] <tnet2> anyone know if there's been any luck in resolving the mysql issues on 64bit systems ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:51:03] <daMaestro> tnet2, what issues?
[25-Jul-2008 15:51:12] * daMaestro is running everything 64bit and has no issues with mysql
[25-Jul-2008 15:54:56] <tnet2> with the stack installer I ran into a bug, apparently maybe an issue with mysql. let ms see if i can find the bug reference
[25-Jul-2008 15:55:54] <daMaestro> ah, i'm using the el5 x86_64 rpm
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:35] <KBA-USA> Hey all
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:43] <daMaestro> anyone know of progress on fixing http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:50] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:50] <tnet2> daMaestro - http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3107
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:58] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3107 (BitRock: 64-bit SuSE 10.3 mysql failure) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:11] <KBA-USA> I am trying to get Zenwin to work, can someone give me a hand?
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:28] <Johnny312> what windows version ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:33] <KBA-USA> Server 2003
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:37] <Johnny312> ok
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:13] <Johnny312> what error u get ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:25] <gbkyle> anyone having trouble upgrading on the VMimage?
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:40] <KBA-USA> basically it does not work
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:44] <gbkyle> Wonderful.
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:48] <KBA-USA> i followed the setup guide
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:53] <KBA-USA> no you gbkyle
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:55] <KBA-USA> lol
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:00] <gbkyle> ohh
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:01] <gbkyle> haha
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:14] <KBA-USA> Johnny, after following the setup guide it still shows a red circle and does not grab the information
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:55] <gbkyle> [root@srv-lin-zenoss bin]# conary migrate --interactive group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@ zenoss:core-2.2
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:55] <gbkyle> Error with spec "group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@": Too many ='s
[25-Jul-2008 16:00:04] <gbkyle> straight from the guide.
[25-Jul-2008 16:05:23] <daMaestro> tnet2, ah.. sorry; no idea
[25-Jul-2008 16:07:35] <daMaestro> does anyone know where I can look at the graph definitions for ethernetCsmacd other then just breaking open the source?
[25-Jul-2008 16:07:40] <tnet2> i think i'll try source, since that uses a different mysql
[25-Jul-2008 16:07:48] <daMaestro> ah, there it is
[25-Jul-2008 16:12:04] <daMaestro> gah, has anyone successfully used "ifInOctets_ifInOctets" on a multi-graph report?
[25-Jul-2008 16:26:49] <daMaestro> awesome, i figured it out
[25-Jul-2008 16:27:10] <daMaestro> you can't add the device (being a linux server) you have to actually create a collection that includes the network interfaces you want to graph
[25-Jul-2008 16:27:11] <daMaestro> duh.
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[25-Jul-2008 17:40:58] <jeld> I installed the 2.2.3 from RPM on a RHEL 5.2 system. For some reason the Device List and Events Console screens come up empty, but I have devices and events
[25-Jul-2008 18:13:09] <tnet2> batk later
[25-Jul-2008 18:21:27] <KBA-USA> HEy everyone
[25-Jul-2008 18:21:50] <KBA-USA> I just finished configuring Zenwin, but now I have a red dot labeled WMI
[25-Jul-2008 18:21:54] <KBA-USA> anyone have any ideas?
[25-Jul-2008 18:25:56] <TBKdan> red or orange?
[25-Jul-2008 18:26:16] <TBKdan> In events tab, what does it say failed?
[25-Jul-2008 18:26:59] <KBA-USA> Orange, and the event says..... wmi connection failed: User credentials cannot be used for local connections
[25-Jul-2008 18:31:03] <KBA-USA> any ideas
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:11] <gbkyle> Dont think thats a zenoss issue..
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:16] <gbkyle> google that message
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:24] <adytum-bot^> http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/7/7/114353/7501
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:26] <gbkyle> could be wrong
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:17] <gbkyle> I wanna know why I can't upgrade my VMimage
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:28] <gbkyle> using the conary migrate command from the doc's
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:38] <gbkyle> Error with spec "group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta": Too many ='s
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:39] <gbkyle>
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:43] <jp10558> I'm trying to figure out why one of my command datasources isn't graphing: I get DataTestSource|DataTestPoint=59.00000000000000000000
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:44] <jp10558> as output
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:55] <jp10558> but no graph . . .
[25-Jul-2008 18:43:31] <gbkyle> Can you not do an upgrade from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3 on a VMWare image
[25-Jul-2008 18:52:23] <KBA-USA> WMI bubble is Orange, and the event says..... wmi connection failed: User credentials cannot be used for local connections.......and idea
[25-Jul-2008 20:48:43] <q7joey> i've googled around and can't find any solutions to getting zenoss to correctly create subnets. i've tried changing zdefaultnetworktree with no luck. i don't understand how it can probe a linux box with a /27 network and then zenoss treats it as a /24.
[25-Jul-2008 20:59:46] <q7joey> i'm rereading http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6049 and that seems to sum up my experience with things. it seems odd that something like this would still be so confusing in zenoss...
[25-Jul-2008 21:00:07] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Question regarding subnets. (at community.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2008 23:39:27] <johns55> anybody familiar with creating performance graphs?
[25-Jul-2008 23:46:17] <trkemist> anyone here have any issues doing layer 2 or layer 3 in zenoss?
[25-Jul-2008 23:46:20] <trkemist> I can't seem to figure it out
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[26-Jul-2008 04:56:57] <lacin_> any body here can help me about ZenOSS installation? What's difference between StackInstaller and Native Stacks? Is MySQL included in Stack packages?
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[26-Jul-2008 13:47:59] <lacin> Any body who tested ZenOSS and SMS?
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[27-Jul-2008 04:41:19] <xpotx> anyone able to help generate a graph using check_ping.. I followed the instructions in the forum and i still do not see a graph
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[27-Jul-2008 12:43:35] <Ozux> hi, how can I send SNMP trap? I just want to test zenoss trap reciving
[27-Jul-2008 13:01:16] <shaharf> you need make a trap
[27-Jul-2008 13:01:52] <shaharf> or with a program or making an event that will send a trap in the snmpd
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[27-Jul-2008 13:05:42] <MrTux> hi guys
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[27-Jul-2008 15:03:42] <MaximB> hello!
[27-Jul-2008 15:04:29] <MaximB> I have installed the zenoss .rpm on redhat5 and it didn't ask me for password for zenoss , so how can I access zenoss ?
[27-Jul-2008 15:05:32] <MaximB> o cool so the default pass is "zenoss"
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[27-Jul-2008 18:33:52] <meteoroid> hiya folks, i'm pretty familiar with twisted, zope and python and wonder if there are any instructions on installing zenoss when zope, twisted, etc.. are already available.
[27-Jul-2008 18:41:26] <meteoroid> hm, looks like i can set PLATFORM_PYTHON env, that's a start
[27-Jul-2008 18:45:35] <meteoroid> also, is anyone working on using zc.buildout to configure zenoss? could be quite handy. if not, i'd love to help.
[27-Jul-2008 18:52:15] <meteoroid> hm setting PLATFORM_PYTHON didn't really help
[27-Jul-2008 18:52:55] <meteoroid> ah, need to remove the install i think
[27-Jul-2008 18:57:20] <daMaestro> anyone know if there has been any progress on http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 ?
[27-Jul-2008 18:57:27] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[27-Jul-2008 18:57:57] <daMaestro> this bug is pretty much a blocker for me to be able to get my company to switch to zenoss (which would include the enterprise support)
[27-Jul-2008 19:06:46] <meteoroid> daMaestro: do you know anything about installing zenoss into a setup which already has a bunch of the deps it wants to build, esp zope, twisted, python-*, nagios ?
[27-Jul-2008 19:06:58] * meteoroid is fighting with the inst scripts in trunk :-P
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:20] <daMaestro> i've not used the trunk yet
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:27] <daMaestro> only release bits
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:35] <meteoroid> what are you using, and how does it install? i'm not sure that's the problem.
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:46] <daMaestro> and i've just pulled the srpm into our buildsys and pushed it out via our repos
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:53] <meteoroid> the main installer is a 'stack isntaller' which even wants to build its' own mysql.
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:56] <meteoroid> ah, srpm, sure
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:01] * meteoroid is on ubuntu for this install
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:06] <meteoroid> sounds like it will be not too much trouble in rhel
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:17] <daMaestro> ah, i don't use ubuntu for a reason
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:19] <daMaestro> ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:30] <meteoroid> which is .. that it provides more of the dependencies itself?
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:35] <daMaestro> the install scripts are... umm lacking precision
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:49] <daMaestro> you'll likely run into issue with mysql connectivity
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:51] <meteoroid> anyway, ubuntu is our dev sys, because it has a lot of things available as debs, but it has zenoss as this stack installer..
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:01] <daMaestro> the installer expects no passwd on the root account for mysql
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:14] <meteoroid> the stack installer, the 'inst' script form svn allows me to set that via prompts
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:15] <daMaestro> oh, blah.. don't use the stack installer
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:18] <meteoroid> yah
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:19] <meteoroid> i'm past that
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:23] <meteoroid> i want to create a buildout for zenoss
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:29] <daMaestro> oh, a buildout?
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:33] <meteoroid> yeah wouldn't that rawk?
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:37] <daMaestro> that is much different then *anything* ubuntu
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:44] <meteoroid> the build scripts remind me of what i used for plone about a year ago..
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:49] <daMaestro> yeah, buildouts are cool.... for development
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:58] <meteoroid> buildout is a deployment tool, you know?
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:04] <daMaestro> yes, i know
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:14] * daMaestro maintains plone/zope/compat-python2.4 for fedora/epel/rhel
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:15] <daMaestro> ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:22] <daMaestro> buildouts++ # hot shit
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:51] <meteoroid> what is that?
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:03] * meteoroid just got on rhel5 which has python2.4 in system, only about ten years late.
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:15] <daMaestro> i made sure to talk shit to redhat because they are dropping python 2.4 support (this is an unofficial statement extrapolated from the fact that fedora does not have python < 2.5 anymore, without my compat packages)
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:26] <meteoroid> ah ok
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:29] <meteoroid> so for future
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:41] <daMaestro> well.. zope 2 is *just starting* to support python 2.5
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:46] <meteoroid> of course
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:51] <daMaestro> z3 does, but i doubt zenoss will ever run on z3
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:57] <daMaestro> not without a full rewrite
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:06] <meteoroid> i often install a zope-dedicated python from source, and then use virtualenv for each buildout, in production..
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:21] <daMaestro> yeah, i packaged virtenv for fedora, it's neato
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:21] <meteoroid> full rewrite is doubtful. does it even use CMF?
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:36] <meteoroid> does that rpm work on rhel? i'd fricking *love* a virtualenv rpm
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:51] <daMaestro> i'd likely have to pull it out of my git repo for you
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:57] <daMaestro> if you really want it, i can push it to epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:08] <daMaestro> http://gify.us/epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:17] <daMaestro> damnit
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:21] <daMaestro> http://giyf.us/epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:41] <daMaestro> i own the domain and i can't type it right
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:58] <meteoroid> this looks like we should be using it for sure
[27-Jul-2008 19:14:31] * meteoroid installs epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:14:40] <daMaestro> yeah, i plan on updating the plone package some time today
[27-Jul-2008 19:14:49] <daMaestro> so i can close the 3.1.2 bug sitting in bugzilla
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:24] <meteoroid> one issue that i have with using packages for plone and zope is that it's tough to roll back.
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:33] <daMaestro> yes, it is
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:38] <meteoroid> i run a script at the end of buildout which archives parts/
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:41] <daMaestro> the packages are very basic, also
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:49] <meteoroid> but probably useful to a lot of people
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:51] <daMaestro> just a standalone instance
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:59] <meteoroid> i've made a good few bucks migrating people away from plone installers of all shapes and sizes
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:02] <daMaestro> yea, anyone that is serious would use buildouts + zeo
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:12] <meteoroid> buildout has some shortcomings as well but it does the trick for now
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:35] <meteoroid> and, yeh, hopefully i will set up a buildout for zenoss in svn.vongogo.net soon
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:43] <meteoroid> at least for testing / experimentation
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:53] <meteoroid> hopefully that would be helpful to the community
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:54] <daMaestro> does zenoss publish recipes?
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:58] <meteoroid> and i have a new gig who uses zenoss
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:59] <meteoroid> no but i'll just sort it out
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:05] <daMaestro> cool
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:13] <meteoroid> i already have a buildout which deals with mysql and all this stuff
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:21] <meteoroid> kind of curious what zenoss is patching into the python-mysql libs as well
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:26] <daMaestro> if i could clone a buildout, i'd likely fix all the bugs i ruun into
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:31] <meteoroid> i just saw all these hunk succeeded
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:38] <meteoroid> yeah i'd be glad to share access
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:46] * daMaestro only uses git, though
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:49] <daMaestro> just as a warning
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:53] <daMaestro> everything else is a waste of my time
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:55] <meteoroid> heh
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:03] <meteoroid> it's not cross-platform, doesn't work for the type of collab that i do
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:08] <meteoroid> but i'm looking to ditch svn for mercurial or bzr
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:14] * meteoroid misses bitkeeper, wishes it had been f/oss
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:23] <daMaestro> yeah, bitkeeper is not bad
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:24] <meteoroid> oh, SCCS, where are you!?!
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:26] <daMaestro> but not foss
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:34] <daMaestro> bzr is neat, mc too
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:46] <meteoroid> i liked having like 50 checkouts of something a couple hundred meg in size, using way under a gig
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:51] <daMaestro> i just have a love affair with git and keep everything in it
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:53] <meteoroid> i think bzr and mc can do that
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:53] <meteoroid> yah
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:55] <meteoroid> i hear that
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:59] <daMaestro> including all my specs, patches, etc
[27-Jul-2008 19:19:00] <meteoroid> it's very simple
[27-Jul-2008 19:19:15] * daMaestro has to maintain 5 branches for a given spec
[27-Jul-2008 19:19:30] <daMaestro> there are zero other tools for doing that and maintaining sanity
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:00] <meteoroid> i'm not sure about that, but i imagine it's not easy
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:09] <meteoroid> i mean, with bk i really did often have 50 active branches on my workstation
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:18] <daMaestro> yup
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:31] <meteoroid> part of it was the nice merge tool, which meld replaces nicely
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:34] <meteoroid> well, kind of ;d
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:40] <meteoroid> at least it isn't tk, that ui was pain
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:56] <daMaestro> yeah, i've not had to do too massive of melds with git yet
[27-Jul-2008 19:21:07] <daMaestro> but i've never ran into anything that was not a breeze yet either
[27-Jul-2008 19:23:41] <daMaestro> cool, thresholds are easy to setup
[27-Jul-2008 19:23:55] * daMaestro just got alerted that a webserver (out of the load) is no longer serving downloads :-D
[27-Jul-2008 19:37:53] <meteoroid> yay
[27-Jul-2008 19:37:57] <meteoroid> well, i mean, yay for knowing
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:14] <meteoroid> daMaestro: if you are interested, my buildout is taking shape here: http://dev.vongogo.net/svn/deploy/buildout/zenoss/trunk/development
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:26] <meteoroid> i imagine i may have to specify older versions for some packages, but am just keeping it simple for now
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:28] <daMaestro> thanks, bookmarked
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:34] <adytum-bot^> Title: Revision 562: /buildout/zenoss/trunk/development (at dev.vongogo.net)
[27-Jul-2008 20:10:20] <meteoroid> still trying to get it to run, not quite a sufficient environment but i can maybe slim down the install scripts to handle dependencies only when needed.
[27-Jul-2008 20:10:46] <meteoroid> probably some reusable stuff as we have some system-level deps for our plone setup, things like document converters for word and pdf.. be nice to have them scripted.
[27-Jul-2008 20:12:06] <meteoroid> eek! zope 2.8.8 and an explicitly installed Five 1.2! wow.
[27-Jul-2008 20:12:25] <meteoroid> i had some stability issues with zope 2.8 on acm.org for a while :/
[27-Jul-2008 21:30:46] <meteoroid> so, hm, my zenoss install.sh is dying on nagios..
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[27-Jul-2008 21:35:17] <meteoroid> er, nagios plugins, that is..
[27-Jul-2008 21:36:30] <meteoroid> aclark: know anything about a sane way to install zenoss from svn without the shell script?
[27-Jul-2008 21:36:42] <meteoroid> it's quite insistent on building a lot of stuff from source that i already have
[27-Jul-2008 21:37:40] * meteoroid is working on a buildout for zenoss
[27-Jul-2008 21:37:41] <aclark> meteoroid: no, i'm mostly just lurking here :-)
[27-Jul-2008 21:37:44] <meteoroid> hah
[27-Jul-2008 21:50:23] <meteoroid> daMaestro: installing epel broke yum on my rhel5 :/
[27-Jul-2008 21:51:15] <daMaestro> how so? how about the full yum output?
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:40] <aclark> daMaestro!
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:45] <daMaestro> aclark!
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:46] <daMaestro> ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:56] <daMaestro> aclark, how goes it?
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:56] * aclark sees some familiar faces ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:00] <aclark> daMaestro: good, you?
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:04] <daMaestro> aclark, good.
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:27] <daMaestro> looking at using zenoss (due to my love affair with plone) for monitoring
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:53] <daMaestro> and it's something i can actually contribute to and fix bugs for (and not hate hacking on)
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:03] <daMaestro> i like that meteoroid is working on a buildout
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:05] <aclark> daMaestro: heh, who could blame you? they are sponsoring the conference this year! :-)
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:10] <daMaestro> really? nice.
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:34] <aclark> daMaestro: http://plone.org/events/conferences/2008-washington-dc
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:43] <daMaestro> i always haggle the poor sales people @ the redhat summit with technical/technology complaints/questions
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:49] <meteoroid> daMaestro: it doesn't output anything at all
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:50] <meteoroid> it just hangs
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:00] <meteoroid> if i ctrl-c it throws some buffered output or something
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:04] <aclark> daMaestro: hah
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:06] <meteoroid> cant deal with this now stupid mysql server crashed
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:09] <aclark> yeah a buildout for zenoss would be hot
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:45] <daMaestro> aclark, i'm trying to get one of them to explain to me what the plan is regarding zope and python 2.5 support
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:00] <daMaestro> aka.. how dedicated is their company to making zenoss continue to work upstream
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:07] <daMaestro> and what are their plan when rhel6 comes out
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:24] <daMaestro> considering they are in the RHX and fedora no longer has python 2.4 support....
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:27] <aclark> daMaestro: right, i imagine pretty dedicated... there are some GSOC kids working on it i think?
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:37] <aclark> right
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:38] <daMaestro> yeah, iirc there is
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:55] <daMaestro> z3 will do py2.5 but the last release of z2 still doesn't run on 2.5
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:58] <aclark> i mean, they could ship without OS support of Python 2.4, can't they?
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:09] <daMaestro> yes, they can
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:11] <aclark> correct
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:16] <daMaestro> it's almost what i did with fedora
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:24] <daMaestro> but it was banned due to fedora policy
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:31] <daMaestro> so i stuck python 2.4 compat packages @ livna
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:49] <aclark> ah
[27-Jul-2008 22:29:25] <meteoroid> hm, now she fails on wmi-build :/
[27-Jul-2008 22:58:16] <meteoroid> another thing ubuntu provides.
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[28-Jul-2008 00:12:04] <meteoroid> neato, ZenPacks are basically dev eggs to buildout. methinks there are some Makefiles which wouldn't be necessary with buildout, though it seems they are useful to rpm
[28-Jul-2008 01:12:14] <aclark> meteoroid: go go go
[28-Jul-2008 01:15:08] <meteoroid> now maven is involved, this is *so* relevant to my new gig ;d
[28-Jul-2008 01:16:34] <meteoroid> hm, ZenJMX is not pleased.
[28-Jul-2008 01:17:07] <meteoroid> will come back to that later
[28-Jul-2008 01:19:15] <meteoroid> aclark: http://dev.vongogo.net/svn/deploy/buildout/zenoss/trunk/development
[28-Jul-2008 01:19:35] <adytum-bot^> Title: Revision 566: /buildout/zenoss/trunk/development (at dev.vongogo.net)
[28-Jul-2008 01:19:53] <aclark> meteoroid: nice thanks
[28-Jul-2008 01:47:09] <meteoroid> one bit at a time, coming together pretty nicely
[28-Jul-2008 01:47:22] <meteoroid> the buildout runs except for ZenJMX
[28-Jul-2008 01:47:30] <meteoroid> which is something to do with my box i think
[28-Jul-2008 01:49:07] <meteoroid> the problem there is something to do with a java build, and i just started working for someone who uses zenoss to monitor a java app, and am working on their deploy scripts
[28-Jul-2008 01:49:18] <meteoroid> i am thinking of writing a buildout recipe for building tomcat instances with maven
[28-Jul-2008 01:50:05] <meteoroid> we have like five instances of tomcat on each machine, because there is a deadlock somewhere, and, whatever, that's the brute force way they've come up with, so it seems logical to share the code in a buildout recipe, have a few instance sin parts/ just like would be the case with zope
[28-Jul-2008 01:50:22] <meteoroid> and lo and behold ZenJMX has some kind of python code for interacting with maven, at least a starter, so i'll probably go in that direction
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[28-Jul-2008 05:15:35] <meteoroid> well, hm, many of the daemons are about to start, things are not entirely in good shape yet but it's progres...
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[28-Jul-2008 10:56:16] <tarjei> hi, I'm trying to use check_http to monitor multiple sites with the same IP, but zenoss says: sendto error Host xxx and xxx are both using ip. How do I get around this?
[28-Jul-2008 12:14:11] <MaximB> hello
[28-Jul-2008 12:14:21] <MaximB> anyone can help me out ?
[28-Jul-2008 12:15:22] <MaximB> I got this error "localhost||/Status/Ping||5|127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1" how do I settle it out ?
[28-Jul-2008 12:21:34] <MaximB> anyone ?
[28-Jul-2008 12:30:36] <tarjei> MaximB: how have you setup your /etc/hosts file?
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> root@mldev11 ~]# cat /etc/hosts
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> # that require network functionality will fail.
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mldev11
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> 10.10.100.222 mldev11
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:47] <MaximB> 127.0.0.50 HostNameOfSecondHost
[28-Jul-2008 12:38:37] <linash> MaximB, just keep 'localhost' from the hostnames in
[28-Jul-2008 12:38:38] <linash> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mldev11
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[28-Jul-2008 13:07:24] <MaximB> thanks
[28-Jul-2008 13:48:52] <rad73> does anyone know if it's possible to use the perfmon to handle oid's that map to a column? or does the perfmon have to work with an oid that is a single value?
[28-Jul-2008 13:50:15] <zenoss_newbie> hi folks
[28-Jul-2008 14:25:54] <rad73> how often are the os processes and ip services checked in zenoss?
[28-Jul-2008 14:26:07] <rad73> because it seems that nothing gets populated until I model the device
[28-Jul-2008 14:26:27] <rad73> and I definitely need to know if the HTTP server goes down before then
[28-Jul-2008 14:29:54] <Bulwinkle> rad73: they are modeled based on the settings you have
[28-Jul-2008 14:30:11] <Bulwinkle> rad73: the services should be checked every 5 minutes by default
[28-Jul-2008 14:31:03] <rad73> Bulwinkle: thanks, do you know what zenoss component performs the service checking? is it part of the performance monitoring?
[28-Jul-2008 14:31:21] <Bulwinkle> hmmmm, probably now
[28-Jul-2008 14:32:05] <Bulwinkle> rad73: probably in the documentation somewhere
[28-Jul-2008 14:32:18] <Bulwinkle> -now+not
[28-Jul-2008 15:32:21] <zenoss_newbie> anyone know where the mysql password for the user 'zenoss' is stored ?
[28-Jul-2008 15:52:11] <gbkyle> anybody know the proper way to upgrade a VMImage from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3?
[28-Jul-2008 16:38:28] <TBKdan> zenoss_newbie: To change it or to see what it is?
[28-Jul-2008 16:38:59] <TBKdan> gbkyle: I always just used the rAA (web based admin) to update, but I never tried it for the 2.2.3 update (I have since built my own CentOS VM)
[28-Jul-2008 16:48:11] <daMaestro> wow.. super fail
[28-Jul-2008 16:48:27] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/4049
[28-Jul-2008 16:48:36] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #4049 (at fpaste.org)
[28-Jul-2008 16:50:02] <daMaestro> looks like i have to clear the cache file
[28-Jul-2008 17:15:29] <daMaestro> anyone heard of progress on the ipservice manual addition bug?
[28-Jul-2008 17:15:46] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498
[28-Jul-2008 17:15:53] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[28-Jul-2008 17:21:30] <gbkyle> TBKdan: what port does the rAA run on again
[28-Jul-2008 17:22:42] <gbkyle> Ahh 8003.
[28-Jul-2008 17:52:55] <gbkyle> I don't understand this.. I can't delete any devices from my device list
[28-Jul-2008 17:53:01] <gbkyle> This bug was supposed to be fixed in 2.2.3
[28-Jul-2008 19:22:27] <TBKdan> gbkyle: I can delete just fine through device list on 2.2.3....
[28-Jul-2008 19:25:24] <gbkyle> Weird, I get an error.
[28-Jul-2008 19:25:30] <gbkyle> and saw it on buglist
[28-Jul-2008 19:25:34] <gbkyle> same error
[28-Jul-2008 19:26:13] <TBKdan> What error?
[28-Jul-2008 20:03:35] <gbkyle> TBKdan: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'deleteDevice'
[28-Jul-2008 20:04:00] <TBKdan> What browser?
[28-Jul-2008 20:04:06] <TBKdan> Or does it not matter?
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:07] <gbkyle> uh, IE
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:15] <gbkyle> I guess i could try firefox
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:20] <gbkyle> Gotta install it tho
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:23] <TBKdan> IE6?
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:48] <gbkyle> 7.
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:55] <TBKdan> k, lemme try that here
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:58] <gbkyle> Ok
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:05] <TBKdan> Worked fine for me...
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:13] <gbkyle> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3469
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:19] <TBKdan> Just saying
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:21] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3469 (Handle case delete device without perf collector and don't allow duplicate manage ips) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:15] <gbkyle> ;
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:16] <gbkyle>
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:20] <gbkyle> thanks for tryin
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:36] <gbkyle> tryin to delete a list of 100 devices
[28-Jul-2008 20:10:49] <gbkyle> I will try more tomorrow
[28-Jul-2008 20:10:54] <gbkyle> thanks.
[28-Jul-2008 21:02:34] <crow_> what is passed to collectors during a config cycle?
[28-Jul-2008 21:32:01] <meteoroid> so, i'm still having trouble installing zenoss from the repo, it gets frustrated with 'msi' or somesuch microsoft deal, possibly the last plugin
[28-Jul-2008 21:32:10] <meteoroid> and the JMX plugin fails to build
[28-Jul-2008 21:32:23] <meteoroid> is trunk/ the latest stable, or should i grab a tarball? instructions on the website in more than one place imply there isn't much diff
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[29-Jul-2008 01:43:15] <kamelion10001> Hey all -- anybody free to assist with a WMI monitoring question?
[29-Jul-2008 02:48:57] <meteoroid> anyone else notice the 'integrating with buildbot' section of the zenoss dev guide is blank? 16.1 under unit tests
[29-Jul-2008 04:01:29] <ozysimpson> Thank god you are on IRC
[29-Jul-2008 04:02:37] <ozysimpson> I have just installed Zenoss on centos and i am trying to access control panel using the ip address of the machine followed by :8080 but all i can see is zope configuration rather than zenoss
[29-Jul-2008 04:02:54] <ozysimpson> could some one please help me with this many thanks in advance
[29-Jul-2008 04:15:00] <ozysimpson> I hope atleast some one will answer me please
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[29-Jul-2008 06:16:44] <ozysimpson> To my previous question about zenoss, i managed to reinstall zenoss and now it works like a dream many thanks to all
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[29-Jul-2008 14:24:36] <EekZ`> hi
[29-Jul-2008 14:25:04] <EekZ`> anyone here monitoring Windows 200 boxes?
[29-Jul-2008 14:27:06] <EekZ`> 2000
[29-Jul-2008 14:29:35] <jp10558> Hey - what does Zenoss do with syslog messages forwarded to it?
[29-Jul-2008 14:29:47] <jp10558> I seem to remember they are added as events?
[29-Jul-2008 14:39:47] <]V[> lol ... my Zenoss box reports that one of the servers is not running the process called "VIM"
[29-Jul-2008 14:40:06] <]V[> guess the box is writing a book or something :-)
[29-Jul-2008 14:43:13] <jp10558> You must have said to monitor that process
[29-Jul-2008 14:43:20] <jp10558> either globally or for that computer
[29-Jul-2008 14:51:04] <]V[> that must have been by accident.. but i cannot find anything under OS -> OS Processes
[29-Jul-2008 14:51:40] <]V[> i can rule out globally, the others would have given the same error.
[29-Jul-2008 15:06:07] <jp10558> Anyone know which MIBS I need to translate traps from Cisco aironet 1100 access points?
[29-Jul-2008 15:48:46] <monrad> anyone seen ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.DeadReferenceError: Calling Stale Broker
[29-Jul-2008 15:48:49] <monrad> ]
[29-Jul-2008 15:49:14] <monrad> i just upgradede from 2.1.3 to 2.2.3 and zenperfsnmp keeps giving me these errors
[29-Jul-2008 16:09:52] <monrad> damn, rollback, 2.2 looked nice but did not work :/
[29-Jul-2008 16:25:00] <jp10558> is there a bug in 2.1.2 for mapping events?
[29-Jul-2008 16:43:46] <MrCerulean> Good morning. Can somebody tell me how to ignore a service on a specific interface?
[29-Jul-2008 16:44:02] <MrCerulean> For example, I'm monitoring http on a system and Zenoss is trying on all interfaces.
[29-Jul-2008 16:44:16] <MrCerulean> But I don't want to know about the interface that the Zenoss machine cannot reach.
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[30-Jul-2008 03:47:53] <Guest11698> anybody home?
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[30-Jul-2008 09:12:42] <schojo> hello?
[30-Jul-2008 09:13:04] <schojo> i've got a serious MIB problem
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[30-Jul-2008 12:35:41] <aurax> hello
[30-Jul-2008 12:36:12] <aurax> i'm having problems with zenoss not updating ip address (not lookup the hostname to find it's new ip) i have over 70 servers dhcp'd that changes ip constantly. any idea how to workaround this issue?
[30-Jul-2008 12:37:26] <tarjei> aurax: is it possible to link each server against a single ip permanently through dhcp? That's how I use dhcp with servers.
[30-Jul-2008 12:37:44] <aurax> too much hassle with the dhcpd...
[30-Jul-2008 12:37:58] <aurax> zenoss suppose to resolve hostname and update the ip addr, no?
[30-Jul-2008 12:38:02] <tarjei> schojo : you need to state your problem if you are going to get any help
[30-Jul-2008 12:38:27] <tarjei> aurax: I do not think so. Which dhcp server are you using?
[30-Jul-2008 12:40:33] <aurax> m$
[30-Jul-2008 12:41:08] <TBKdan> As far as I know, zenoss looks up the IP address on device creation, then just uses that..
[30-Jul-2008 12:41:14] <jp10558> I think the lookup might only happen on re-model
[30-Jul-2008 12:41:26] <jp10558> does it ever update, say every 6 hrs or 12 hrs?
[30-Jul-2008 12:42:26] <jp10558> I only have Static IPs so I don't know when, if ever after creation, Zenoss might do DNS again.
[30-Jul-2008 12:43:48] <aurax> it suppose to resolve..
[30-Jul-2008 12:46:29] <aurax> and update the device
[30-Jul-2008 12:46:59] <TBKdan> Lemme test this with a force remodel... one sec
[30-Jul-2008 12:47:28] <aurax> thx
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:21] <TBKdan> Still modeling but it may have
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:25] <aurax> there's a way when you choose 'change ip' to leave it empty and use dns
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:28] <TBKdan> No
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:37] <aurax> but it will write down the ip
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:42] <aurax> and will use the new one...
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:56] <TBKdan> So maybe...
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:08] <TBKdan> Have a command that runs every so often to reset the IP entry
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:12] <TBKdan> It does not update it on a model
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:30] <jp10558> But I would guess you could use zenmd to update as TBKdan said
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:38] <jp10558> run a cron job?
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:41] <aurax> hmm
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:01] <jp10558> nslookup, grep, zenmd ...
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:14] <jp10558> How often does the IP change?
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:17] <TBKdan> Or if the device is down
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:53] <TBKdan> Why not set longer lease times on the DHCP server so that unless the device is down for longer than a day, it'll keep it's lease (and therefore the same IP)?
[30-Jul-2008 12:51:24] <aurax> thouht about it as well
[30-Jul-2008 12:51:40] <aurax> but i want to be safe that it's update my servers.. even if the ip's doesnt change often
[30-Jul-2008 12:51:58] <jp10558> Bug report or feature request?
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:01] <aurax> bug
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:05] <aurax> it suppose to resolve
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:11] <TBKdan> Upon creation.
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:17] <jp10558> Post it in zenoss/submit bug
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:20] <aurax> suppose to ask on creation...
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:24] <aurax> dhcp or ip ?
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:26] <aurax> bleh
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:39] <TBKdan> Most servers have static IPs, so I would say this is a feature request
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:31] <aurax> those are vmwares
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:36] <jp10558> I agree iwth TBKdan - feature request
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:41] <jp10558> But worth updating
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:44] <jp10558> err, posting
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:47] <aurax> yeah
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:57] <TBKdan> Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad feature
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[30-Jul-2008 15:05:13] <MrCerulean> Can anybody tell me how to ignore service checks on a specific interface?
[30-Jul-2008 15:36:01] <pber> I'm getting constant zenwin, zeneventlog, zenmodeler heartbeat failures
[30-Jul-2008 15:36:15] <pber> using v2.2.3
[30-Jul-2008 15:36:46] <pber> according to the daemons tab, all the services are running
[30-Jul-2008 15:38:08] <pber> I see this error in the zenwin logs: http://dpaste.com/68451/
[30-Jul-2008 15:38:16] <adytum-bot^> Title: dpaste: #68451 (at dpaste.com)
[30-Jul-2008 15:38:20] <pber> any thoughts on how to fix this?
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[30-Jul-2008 20:30:58] <anervoustwitch> i installed zenoss this morning for the first time, and it appears that every time i restart the service or perform a full discovery on my subnet, the switch i have the zenoss machine connected to crashes and requires a reboot. has anyone heard of something similar happening?
[30-Jul-2008 20:59:02] <daMaestro> anyone have a workaround or comments about
[30-Jul-2008 20:59:03] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498
[30-Jul-2008 20:59:10] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[30-Jul-2008 21:26:45] <monrad> i got myself a test server with 2.2.3 today
[30-Jul-2008 21:27:24] <monrad> and found that it thinks my 10g interfaces are 1.410gbit and i cant add devices from an subnet where autodiscovery is off
[30-Jul-2008 21:49:57] <kgoedtel> weird
[30-Jul-2008 21:50:04] <kgoedtel> i have neither of those problems :|
[30-Jul-2008 21:59:54] <monrad> i found a post in the forum about the secound issue
[30-Jul-2008 22:00:06] <monrad> this is a clean debian stack install
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[31-Jul-2008 06:22:43] <Ozux> I have question! but the way I will ask is a little dummy, so sorry!!
[31-Jul-2008 06:23:05] <Ozux> How can I add graphs to dashboard? Like this: http://i33.tinypic.com/2pycjma.jpg
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[31-Jul-2008 08:57:24] <sekas_> Hey, im looking to automate a reclassification of a device i monitor, but now want moved to our un-monitored class.. Is there any easy way to do this from the cli?
[31-Jul-2008 08:59:19] <sekas_> Guessing the easyest way would be trough zope, but i cant find a good source on information how to query the ZODB
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[31-Jul-2008 11:14:47] <ggg333> hi... is there a inidividual plugin available to monitor tomcat?
[31-Jul-2008 11:18:31] <ggg333> in linux specifically
[31-Jul-2008 11:41:36] <EekZ`> apache zenpack?
[31-Jul-2008 12:58:37] <KBA-USA> I am trying to change the collector to use TCP rather than UDP for my firewalls, anyone help me do this?
[31-Jul-2008 12:59:21] <KBA-USA> anyone?
[31-Jul-2008 13:01:56] <KBA-USA> I am trying to config zenoss to gather snmp information from my firewalls, I need to get zenoss to use TCP/161 instead of UDP/161. does anyone know how I can achieve this?
[31-Jul-2008 13:08:16] <TBKDan> Be patient, not everybody watches this channel every minute of the day
[31-Jul-2008 13:14:44] <KBA-USA> yeah, i know, just been trying to do this for over a week and starting to get frustrated
[31-Jul-2008 13:58:37] <jb> anyone done 2.2.0 -> 2.2.3?
[31-Jul-2008 13:58:52] <TBKDan> Yup
[31-Jul-2008 13:58:55] <TBKDan> On CentOS RPM
[31-Jul-2008 13:59:11] <TBKDan> Went fine for me
[31-Jul-2008 13:59:30] <jb> ok.. not the stack installer?
[31-Jul-2008 14:00:22] <TBKDan> no, I didn't like that one
[31-Jul-2008 14:00:29] <TBKDan> VM snapshots ftw
[31-Jul-2008 14:00:41] <jb> heh yeah
[31-Jul-2008 14:03:04] <jb> no upgrade docs..
[31-Jul-2008 14:24:43] <TBKDan> There are, you just need to dig a bit
[31-Jul-2008 14:28:53] <zenoss_newbie> i havent found those either
[31-Jul-2008 14:30:02] <TBKDan> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[31-Jul-2008 14:30:19] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Jul-2008 14:31:39] <TBKDan> For future notice: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/upgrading-zenoss
[31-Jul-2008 14:31:53] <adytum-bot^> Title: Upgrading Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Jul-2008 14:46:57] <jb> TBKDan: thats from 2.1 -> 2.2
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:00] <jb> not 2.2 -> 2.23
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:02] <jb> 2.2.3
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:15] <TBKDan> That's the guide that I used for 2.2 to 2.2.3 and it worked fine for me.
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:28] <jb> it doesn't even mention the stack installers
[31-Jul-2008 14:50:37] <TBKDan> You just said no upgrade docs, you didn't mention which types
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[31-Jul-2008 17:40:29] <C_Kode> What grant rights does the MySQLMonitor require for the zenoss user?
[31-Jul-2008 17:40:44] <C_Kode> grant rights on the mysql server
[31-Jul-2008 19:10:39] <jb> C_Kode: its in the documentation..
[31-Jul-2008 19:11:41] <C_Kode> jb: I couldn't find it, but just for testing I gave it full rights, but I still can't figure out where or how to actually use the zenpack OS Process?
[31-Jul-2008 19:12:53] <C_Kode> The most I found was where it tells me what it monitors and how to create a user (which I know how to do!)
[31-Jul-2008 19:16:34] <jb> i hope you didn't give it drop, delete, etc
[31-Jul-2008 19:17:11] <C_Kode> It was a test MySQL server
[31-Jul-2008 19:46:01] <twm1010> Anyone here had any experience with Netapp Storage?
[31-Jul-2008 19:48:11] <SEJeff> twm1010, I'm got netapp experience, but not in conjunction with Zenoss. Whats up?
[31-Jul-2008 19:48:18] <SEJeff> s/I'm/I've/
[31-Jul-2008 19:49:09] <twm1010> I'm looking at using an FAS3140 as primary storage, a bit foreign to me, would just like some opinions of it from people who actually work with it
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:04] <SEJeff> as primary storage for what and what is the environment? Linux, Windows, Mixed, etc
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:23] <SEJeff> I'm a huge netapp fan and the whole FAS3X series. Make sure to run the latest ontap though
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:31] <twm1010> mixed, netware, linux, windows. mostly serving up images
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:45] <SEJeff> So nfs, cifs, and...
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:50] <twm1010> lots of mac users
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:59] <SEJeff> Yeah same here
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:04] <twm1010> right now we have an old HP MA8000 fronted by Netware 6.5 boxes
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:17] <SEJeff> Well what is your question in specific?
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:30] <SEJeff> For a general purpose NAS, nothing beats netapp for reliability
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:37] <SEJeff> Are you getting 1 head or 2 head configurations?
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:12] <twm1010> 2 head meaning both Fibre/iSCSI and NAS ?
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:27] <SEJeff> Meaning two nas heads
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:40] <SEJeff> As in the clustered pair so if 1 head dies, you failover to the second
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:49] <twm1010> Yeah, definitely two.
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:59] <SEJeff> Ok, the cluster licenses aren't cheap
[31-Jul-2008 19:53:11] <SEJeff> But it is really nice to do something like cf partner and run commands
[31-Jul-2008 19:53:42] <SEJeff> 0 experience with netapp and iscsi. They said it was experimental last I checked
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:13] <SEJeff> So do you have any specific question in re: to netapp as primary storage?
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:36] <twm1010> I guess where I'm really going, is why would I choose something like this, over a more traditional san like an HP/EMC/IBM
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:41] <SEJeff> make sure to get the cluster license if you've got the budget and setup auto-failover
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:44] <SEJeff> Easy, WAFL
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:00] <SEJeff> How do you front those other sans?
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:09] <twm1010> With Netware servers right now.
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:13] <SEJeff> Exactly
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:17] <SEJeff> And what filesystem do those run?
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:22] <twm1010> NSS
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:32] <SEJeff> How easy is it to expand or shrink a filesystem?
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:47] <twm1010> shrink? not possible. expand, not too bad.
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:52] <SEJeff> +1 for netapp
[31-Jul-2008 19:56:05] <SEJeff> vol size -10g /path/to/vol
[31-Jul-2008 19:56:14] <SEJeff> That is how you shrink a volume in netapp all online
[31-Jul-2008 19:56:37] <SEJeff> What about data integrity? Do you run raid?
[31-Jul-2008 19:57:08] <twm1010> Sure, existing san is RAID5, maybe 30 raidsets.
[31-Jul-2008 19:57:40] <SEJeff> NetAPP is all raidN. A proprietary raid using WAFL
[31-Jul-2008 19:57:56] <SEJeff> Can we take this to #offtopic?
[31-Jul-2008 19:58:00] <twm1010> So traditionally with a NetApp you wouldn't even need to front the data with an O/S, let the clients hit it directly?
[31-Jul-2008 19:58:01] <twm1010> sure.
[31-Jul-2008 19:58:23] <SEJeff> ok can you: /j #offtopic
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[01-Jul-2008 06:17:05] <exkev> anyone alive who understands the snmp trap decoding?
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:00] <exkev> I've got OSPF-TRAP-MIB imported, it's declared various oid mappings, including ospfTraps 1.3.6.1.2.1.14.16.2 as 'node'
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:26] <exkev> all traps are below that node's oid, e.g. 1.3.6.1.2.1.14.16.2.10, and those are defined in the traps section
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:39] <exkev> (ie zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs/OSPF-TRAP-MIB)
[01-Jul-2008 06:19:30] <exkev> all traps get trnslated as 'ospfTraps', the node in the oid mapping, instead of the 'notification' defined
[01-Jul-2008 06:20:04] <exkev> so ospfTxRetransmit, ospfNbrStateChange etc all turn into "ospfTraps" and get de-duped together
[01-Jul-2008 06:20:51] <exkev> wtf
[01-Jul-2008 06:23:25] <exkev> deleting the 'node' results in untranslated events, just showing the oid
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:23] <exkev> however, bgpBackwardTransition (1.3.6.1.2.1.15.7.2) maps fine and keeps its name
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:35] <exkev> there is a parent 'node' at 1.3.6.1.2.1.15.7 named 'bgpTraps'
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:52] <exkev> same thing, but not broken
[01-Jul-2008 06:36:07] <exkev> testing w/ dmd.Mibs.oid2name() produces interesting results
[01-Jul-2008 06:36:15] <exkev> this mib is somehow broken
[01-Jul-2008 06:38:14] <MrTux> exkev: i'm using the ospf mib delivered as standard mib by juniper (rel9.1), and that works
[01-Jul-2008 06:40:32] <exkev> this is cisco smi v1. I'm purging all my mibs now and tryin to start fresh
[01-Jul-2008 06:41:28] <exkev> uuugh, but this box is eating itself alive again
[01-Jul-2008 07:18:04] <exkev> mrtux, what is the mib file you used?
[01-Jul-2008 07:19:07] <exkev> I grabbed another one (an SMIv2, not from cisco) but still oid2name fails
[01-Jul-2008 07:20:59] <MrTux> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos91/juniper-mibs-9.1R1.8.tgz i've imported all of them
[01-Jul-2008 07:23:17] <exkev> I imported all my mibs, 670 of em. bad idea.
[01-Jul-2008 07:26:44] <exkev> thx, that mib imports much betta
[01-Jul-2008 07:27:33] <MrTux> jeah, its juniper, that usually works really well
[01-Jul-2008 07:27:58] <exkev> I used to run M stuff, I miss it
[01-Jul-2008 07:28:12] <exkev> I have a sticker on my laptop, "I (heart) JUNOS"
[01-Jul-2008 07:29:03] <Shurick> you said junos, admins close to me unpacking 65xx
[01-Jul-2008 07:30:44] <exkev> 65xx still stomps jnpr for $/port
[01-Jul-2008 07:31:00] <Shurick> yep
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:45] <exkev> I've been using 6503+sup32 as border routers (no need for full table)
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:50] <exkev> $9k plus psus
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:53] <exkev> can't touch it
[01-Jul-2008 07:33:47] <MrTux> we've upgrade to the new mx-series, they're quit cool
[01-Jul-2008 07:33:59] <MrTux> but we have a lot of fulltables here
[01-Jul-2008 07:34:33] <Shurick> full table (we're about bgp v4, right) cost a lot now
[01-Jul-2008 07:34:40] <exkev> nlayer wrangled with a lot of bugs in mx, but seems to be happy w/ em now
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:27] <exkev> I'm 95% inbound, "inverse content" as it were
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:30] <exkev> we suck from eyeballs
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:54] <exkev> default + customer = happy for my measly 400 meg of outbound
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:17] <exkev> (or maybe it's not 400, since inbound is about 4G)
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:51] <Shurick> you're hangry then
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:59] <MrTux> Shurick: well, not really
for personal use i've jseries (about2k) with 4 fullfeeds [01-Jul-2008 07:37:08] <exkev> if only pricks like me would stop deagging in PA space
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:23] <exkev> full tables would be less
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:33] <exkev> but what choice am I left with, ARIN allocation policy is stupid
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:49] <Shurick> mine is RIPE
[01-Jul-2008 07:38:16] <exkev> we have a site in ripe, will seek small alloc once ramped up
[01-Jul-2008 07:38:36] <Shurick> they allocated a lot of /2[34] - sounds not well
[01-Jul-2008 07:39:02] <exkev> I really only need a few IPs, but engineering inbound balance is near impossible w/o massive community-twiddling kung fu or /24 per port
[01-Jul-2008 07:39:56] <Shurick> if you eat traffic
[01-Jul-2008 07:40:42] <Shurick> if you generate it - it seems more easily to balance it
[01-Jul-2008 07:40:46] <exkev> fo sho
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:06] <exkev> my last gig was 1:1 ISP w/ colo and hosting and ftth and such
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:13] <exkev> that wasn't so hard to balance
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:42] <exkev> also when eyeballs eat bits, it's widely distributed
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:05] <exkev> when I eat eyeballs' bits, those networks are more massive and few
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:13] <exkev> one wrong knob and bits hit the floor
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:26] <Shurick> bwa-ha-ha
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:58] <Shurick> 'there will be one network that tights 'em all'
[01-Jul-2008 07:43:10] <exkev> 40Gbps more and I can justify a global peering network
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:11] <Shurick> 40 gbps it almost useless now, if you're content provider
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:26] <exkev> well, and I need to peer with eyeballs or no point
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:32] <exkev> that's a lot harder
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:37] <exkev> <- backups
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:41] <Shurick> even 100gbps are too slow
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:55] <Shurick> due to backups too
[01-Jul-2008 07:46:30] <exkev> GMT-7 here, sleep calls
[01-Jul-2008 07:46:37] * exkev &
[01-Jul-2008 07:47:07] <Shurick> GMt+3 here, no sleeps
[01-Jul-2008 07:48:56] <AllanHouston> Hi - having some wierd problems with specific Cisco syslog events failing to show in the event view - can anyone help me ?
[01-Jul-2008 10:33:14] <foudfou> hi, I loaded Dell MIBs correctly (with dependencies solved), but stil, events are mapped as '/Unknown'
[01-Jul-2008 10:33:14] <foudfou> is there something more I must do ?
[01-Jul-2008 10:49:07] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "ISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 10:55:45] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MSSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 10:55:50] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:17] <SniZ|work> this not helps^ 1) Bring down zenoss ZENHOME/bin/zenoss stop
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:21] <SniZ|work> 2) Remove all the ZENHOME/var/*.zec files (these are cache files)
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:21] <SniZ|work> 3) Bring up zenoss ZENHOME/bin/zenoss start
[01-Jul-2008 12:08:27] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:20] <SniZ|work> why when i add new device, zenoss dont create rrd file. what i must do?
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:33] <SniZ|work> but if i zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit it work fine
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:44] <SniZ|work> and create it....
[01-Jul-2008 12:13:06] <SniZ|work> but i must do it for update graphs
[01-Jul-2008 12:15:40] <nemo_> as root or zenoss ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:16:46] <SniZ|work> zenoss
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:04] <SniZ|work> zenoss@monitoring:~$ ls /usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> 192.168.33.11 router.parfum-ultra.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> brest.brest-parfum.local router_vit
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> dial-in.parfum-ultra.local server1.vit-parfum.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> it-prn.parfum-ultra.local server.parfum-ultra.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:18:45] <SniZ|work> nemo_, btw, when i add new device - zenoss generate graphs with string - "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:12] <SniZ|work> /usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/router_vit:
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> total 40
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 755 2008-07-01 20:07 localhost-config.pickle
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 35296 2008-07-01 20:07 sysUpTime_sysUpTime.rrd
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:16] <SniZ|work> i donno why...
[01-Jul-2008 12:25:49] <SniZ|work> or i must add "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d ${device/id}" to zenoss commands?
[01-Jul-2008 12:28:24] <nemo_> i would delete the device and try again, unless you have data to keep ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:28:45] <SniZ|work> but i doesnt wanna delete added devices....
[01-Jul-2008 12:29:54] <nemo_> try deleting the pickle file and re-modelling
[01-Jul-2008 12:30:10] <nemo_> if it doesnt regen, zeo restart
[01-Jul-2008 12:30:51] <SniZ|work> why i need do this? why snmp daemon doesn wrong?
[01-Jul-2008 12:32:53] <SniZ|work> why zenoss cant work good from fresh install?
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:08] <nemo_> i am not zenoss, i dont know
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:17] <nemo_> read logs , docs etc !
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:28] <SniZ|work>
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:38] <nemo_> you think i should do it for ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:48] <nemo_> maybe you misunderstand open source ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:10] <nemo_> i tried to help you point you in a direction, but you should find your own way
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:52] <SniZ|work> heh, i think i forgot somethining do...
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:59] <SniZ|work> but i doo all from manual!
[01-Jul-2008 12:37:50] <SniZ|work> nemo_, i think, all i do rigth. but zenoss doesnt do graphs
[01-Jul-2008 12:38:12] <SniZ|work> only show, if i manually "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit"
[01-Jul-2008 12:45:27] <SniZ|work> can somebody gimme man how to monitor devices?
[01-Jul-2008 12:47:24] <TBKdan> Whoooaaaa very bad...
[01-Jul-2008 12:47:33] <TBKdan> New VM app update kills networking on the app
[01-Jul-2008 12:48:07] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, you can help me?
[01-Jul-2008 12:49:32] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: The one time that I have had "Missing RRD Files" was when the SNMP device I was querying did not return the MIBs that Zenoss was expecting.
[01-Jul-2008 12:49:45] <TBKdan> Dunno if that's what you were looking for
[01-Jul-2008 12:50:31] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, if i run "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit" from zenoss user - it collect data and put in to rrd files, which i can see in zenoss
[01-Jul-2008 12:50:49] <SniZ|work> but zenoss doesnt automaticly collect data
[01-Jul-2008 12:52:03] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: Check the templates for that device to make sure it's trying to collect that data.. I'm not that familiar with Zenoss, but I'm getting there
[01-Jul-2008 12:55:30] <cgibbons> how long are you waiting before you see if data is collecting, sniz?
[01-Jul-2008 12:56:55] <SniZ|work> cgibbons, 30-60 Ѽшт
[01-Jul-2008 12:56:56] <SniZ|work> min
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:07] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, i use integrated templates
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:15] <SniZ|work> stanart instakllation
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:42] <SniZ|work> command like "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit" - work pretty! and put all in db
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:45] <SniZ|work> *rrd
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:05] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: Is the zenperfsnmp daemon running? (Settings->Daemons)
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:27] <SniZ|work> yes! it work!
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:43] <SniZ|work> #PARAMETER VALUE
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:46] <SniZ|work> monitor localhost
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:47] <SniZ|work> this is config
[01-Jul-2008 13:08:17] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: It's working or the daemon is running? *confused*
[01-Jul-2008 13:09:16] <SniZ|work> laemon running!
[01-Jul-2008 13:14:38] <SniZ|work> daemon ^)
[01-Jul-2008 13:16:33] <realmelancon> Anybody on the channel ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:17:01] <SniZ|work> no
[01-Jul-2008 13:17:52] <realmelancon> Hi SniZ
[01-Jul-2008 13:18:07] <realmelancon> are you familiar with ZenOss 2.2 ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:03] <SniZ|work> i need help to...
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:14] <TBKdan> MS + 2k3 + AD = me going insane... -_-*
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:40] <realmelancon> oups... sorry about that
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:49] <TBKdan> Might as well watch a monkey screw a football...
[01-Jul-2008 13:20:14] <realmelancon> Im a Unix admin. cant help with AD stuff.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:00] <realmelancon> i've spent all day yesterday, trying to get zenoss to get the Event logs from a Windows box.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:07] <TBKdan> I think it's just a bug with AD. When you enable a setting via AD, it greys it out locally to prevent changes. When you disable that setting, it keeps it greyed out.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:30] <TBKdan> realmelancon: How are you trying to get it to retrieve them? WMI?
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:43] <realmelancon> yeah. WMI.
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:02] <TBKdan> Are you getting WMI errors for that machine?
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:49] <SniZ|work> why zenping, zensyslog, zentrap doesnt start?
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:59] <realmelancon> I tried using wmic tool. but it doesnt work. authentication works fine. but i cant get any values.
[01-Jul-2008 13:23:34] <TBKdan> Is this on a 2k3 sp1+ box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:23:37] <realmelancon> when i try from another windows box (using wbemtest ?) it works. i can run any WMI query.
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:12] <realmelancon> TBKdan: I think its 2k3 sp2. i will have to validate though. does it make a difference ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:42] <realmelancon> or does 2k3 sp2 even exists ? (sorry im a unix guy)
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:45] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Is the WMI user a local/domain admin on the box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:48] <TBKdan> Yes, that's what I have too.
[01-Jul-2008 13:25:18] <realmelancon> TBKdan. No its not a local user. It uses an AD account.
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:02] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Is that AD account a domain admin, or is it a local admin on the box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:28] <TBKdan> Or neither
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:37] <realmelancon> TBKdan: Its a domain admin.
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:42] <TBKdan> ok
[01-Jul-2008 13:27:01] <TBKdan> What command are you using that doesn't give you any results? (minus user/pw
)[01-Jul-2008 13:27:53] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Hold on. Let me check.
[01-Jul-2008 13:29:51] <TBKdan> omfg. Resetting the entire security db didn't even do the trick... *bangs head*
[01-Jul-2008 13:30:00] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Unfortunately. I have to VPN in our corp. network, but I will loose the IRC channel.
[01-Jul-2008 13:30:31] <TBKdan> I'll be here..
[01-Jul-2008 13:33:23] <realmelancon> TBKDan: but command was something like: cd $ZENHOME/bin; ./wmic -U domain/user //machine "select * from Win32_NTLogEvent"
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:31] <TBKdan> Wait
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:41] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Let me login. And I will rejoin the IRC channel in a couple pf minutes with more info.
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:43] <TBKdan> Are there any strange characters in the pass?
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:50] <TBKdan> ", %, $, etc
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:18] <realmelancon> TBKDan: No only numeric, lower and uppercase chars.
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:21] <TBKdan> k
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:43] <TBKdan> I just ran that command on my machine and it worked fine...
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:13] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:17] <realmelancon> cool. is there anything I could trace on the Windows box ? any security settings regarding WMI ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:35] <MoreDakka> Freakin' hell...AC has been off in the office all weekend...29.5 C in here gahh..sooo hot.
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:08] <TBKdan> realmelancon: You can enable verbose logging for the WMI stuff or just check the logs as is
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:14] <TBKdan> C:\Windows\System32\wbem\Logs
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:42] <TBKdan> I would clear the logs out, then run the command to see if it gives you anything
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:50] <realmelancon> TBKdan: Thanks for the tip. I will look at it.
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:54] <TBKdan> Np
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:04] <TBKdan> I just had a hell of a time fighting with it, so I know the feeling
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:30] <realmelancon> TBKdan: and you use Zenoss 2.2 ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:46] <cgibbons> WMI improvements are a high priority for 2.3 so xfingers there
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:42] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Yeah, although the VM app.
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:48] <TBKdan> It's up to 2.2.2 there.
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:56] <TBKdan> Latest update clobbered network though
[01-Jul-2008 13:40:06] <realmelancon> Is there any differences between Zenoss Core (vs) Enterprise redarding WMI stuff ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:40:45] <TBKdan> I think enterprise has a bit more functionality out of the box, but it should still work in core (it does for me)
[01-Jul-2008 13:41:36] <TBKdan> I can't say for sure though
[01-Jul-2008 13:41:52] <realmelancon> TBKdan: ok thanks. just wanted to confirm.
[01-Jul-2008 14:28:57] TBKdan is now known as TBKDan-away
[01-Jul-2008 14:32:03] <duncan> hey guys, I've installed the zenplugin.py on my server and added the zencommand.linux.* plugins, configured the zencommand username and password and verified that account can run zenplugin.py... but it doesn't want to use it to collect
[01-Jul-2008 14:32:39] <duncan> if I run zenmodeler from the command line I get this: INFO:zen.ZenModeler:no cmd plugins found for cwlms-host51.remotelabs.com
[01-Jul-2008 14:34:33] <duncan> is there documentation on using zenplugin.py anywhere? I can't find anything except how to install it on the target host
[01-Jul-2008 14:55:55] <duncan> nevermind, I believe I found what I needed in the admin guide ;D
[01-Jul-2008 16:14:56] folke is now known as afk_away
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:25] <locohost> is this the best explination of the warning colors?
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> blue - warn
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> green - good
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> grey - no data
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> orange - severe
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> purple - minor
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:28] <locohost> red - critical
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:29] <locohost> yellow - major
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> or in order....
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> grey - no data
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> green - good
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> blue - warn
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> purple - minor
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> yellow - major
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:27] <locohost> orange - severe
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:28] <locohost> red - critical
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:36] <locohost> that sound right to you folks?
[01-Jul-2008 16:34:54] <magnachef> yes
[01-Jul-2008 16:39:55] <locohost> THANKS!
[01-Jul-2008 16:59:30] TBKdan1 is now known as TBKDan
[01-Jul-2008 17:41:15] <TBKDan> So, anybody aware of the latest VM app killing networking? I realize that it deletes the vmware-tools in favor of open-vm-tools, but I don't see any evidence that it actually installed
[01-Jul-2008 17:51:53] <ccesario> Hey, I downloaded one file and I see in Grpah interface ....
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:16] <ccesario> and I see 2MB of outbound and 500kbps inbound
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:27] <magnachef> am I able to use percentage thresholds with Min/Max Threshold?
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:38] <ccesario> and I think the correct is 2MB inbound and 500kbps outbound...
[01-Jul-2008 17:53:44] <Mosburn_mobile> has anyone managed to get full Tru64 monitoring in zenoss?
[01-Jul-2008 17:54:34] <magnachef> not I
[01-Jul-2008 17:54:35] <MoreDakka> ccesario - Make sure you are looking at the proper interface to justdge that graph (example switch port 1 has 1.5/640 ADSL, that port will show 1.5in and 640out. port 2 has a computer on it. that port will show 1.5 out and 640 in, make sense?)
[01-Jul-2008 17:56:12] <ccesario> MoreDakka, yes I'm lokink the interface with adsl port
[01-Jul-2008 17:57:50] <ccesario> and I see ... 2MB outbound and 500Kb inbound O_o
[01-Jul-2008 17:58:46] <locohost> ccesario, is this a router or a fw?
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:19] <locohost> ahh, well, it sounds like there is an inside interface and an ouside interface
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:27] <locohost> they will be mirrors of each other.
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:39] <ccesario> FW/ROUTER connected in ADSL Modem
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:56] <locohost> the outside interface will have 2mb inbound, while on the inside interface, that same 2mb will be outbound
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:02] <locohost> like what moredakka said
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:24] <ccesario> yes.... ETH1 (WAN) 2Mb outbound... and ETH0(lan) 2Mb inbound
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:39] <ccesario> but this is correct ?
[01-Jul-2008 18:02:32] <locohost> Traffic going OUT of your computer will go IN to the eth0 then OUT eth1
[01-Jul-2008 18:03:30] <locohost> when is say eth0 and 1 in that sentence, i only mean the router, i didnt label the if on your pc
[01-Jul-2008 18:04:08] <locohost> sooo, the direction of the traffic is kinda relative...that make sence?
[01-Jul-2008 18:05:03] <ccesario> hmmmm
[01-Jul-2008 18:05:05] <ccesario> yes locohost
[01-Jul-2008 18:06:32] <ccesario> make sence .... eheheh
[01-Jul-2008 20:03:27] <cgibbons> hmmm
[01-Jul-2008 20:43:32] <duncan> Help! I'm having problems getting disk io graphed in Zenoss... I have installed the zenplugin.py on the server to be monitored, added the ssh username/password in the zProperties for the node, and modified the collector plugins.. but nothing is being collected, and my performance template is setup for snmp.
[01-Jul-2008 20:44:29] <duncan> I have remodeled the device but it says: no cmd plugins found
[01-Jul-2008 21:09:29] <Larve_Q> hi
[01-Jul-2008 21:16:42] <Larve_Q> anybody 2.2.0 problems with windows event/service?
[01-Jul-2008 21:17:07] <Larve_Q> Miss the startmode, en failures aren't detected
[01-Jul-2008 21:17:18] <Larve_Q> worked fine earlier verion...
[01-Jul-2008 22:06:15] <Larve_Q> anybody?
[01-Jul-2008 22:27:31] <locohost> can you get the disk io info in an snmpwalk?
[01-Jul-2008 22:33:26] <Larve_Q> yep, i think so...go to settings -> commands and copy/edit snmpwalk as you like
[01-Jul-2008 22:35:01] <duncan> Help! I'm having problems getting disk io graphed in Zenoss... I have installed the zenplugin.py on the server to be monitored, added the ssh username/password in the zProperties for the node, and modified the collector plugins.. but nothing is being collected, and my performance template is setup for snmp.
[01-Jul-2008 22:35:02] <duncan> I have remodeled the device but it says: no cmd plugins found
[01-Jul-2008 22:36:24] <neil__> ssh is for running remote commands
[01-Jul-2008 22:37:43] <neil__> i havent looked into it, but it sounds wrong the perf template is set to use snmp
[01-Jul-2008 22:38:29] <duncan> so I need to make a new template that has command datasources?
[01-Jul-2008 22:39:28] <neil__> really not too sure, i do everything snmp, dont want to use ssh
[01-Jul-2008 22:44:49] <duncan> unfortunately net-snmp doesn't support disk io unless I recompile it from source.. which is a pain
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:13] <neil__> i didnt notice
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:18] <neil__> but thats for the tip
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:32] <neil__> cant you just rebuild the src rpms with a script / add it to you repo ?
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:58] <neil__> i am guessing thats what i will have to do
[01-Jul-2008 22:46:21] <neil__> for me its security
[01-Jul-2008 22:46:38] <neil__> people complain about me snmp connecting
[01-Jul-2008 22:52:02] <locohost> nah, you can get disk io info from the udc mibs
[01-Jul-2008 22:52:32] <locohost> you might be thinking of DISMAN-EVEN
[01-Jul-2008 22:54:39] <locohost> T
[01-Jul-2008 23:01:07] <locohost> niel, duncan, what does ` snmpwalk -v1 localhost -c public .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.15.1.1`
[01-Jul-2008 23:01:16] <locohost> yield on this box?
[01-Jul-2008 23:13:19] <duncan> http://pastebin.com/m72146bfb
[01-Jul-2008 23:17:18] <locohost> ewwww, thats ugly
[01-Jul-2008 23:18:00] <locohost> what if you do 1.3?
[01-Jul-2008 23:19:13] <locohost> it should look like t his
[01-Jul-2008 23:19:13] <locohost> http://pastebin.com/m4267dcb2
[01-Jul-2008 23:26:28] <neil__> [root@black ~]# snmpwalk -v1 localhost -c public .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.15.1.1
[01-Jul-2008 23:26:28] <neil__> End of MIB
[01-Jul-2008 23:37:20] <locohost> well, you might have better luck in #net-snmp, your not having a zenoss issue, your having a net-snmp issue
[01-Jul-2008 23:37:40] <locohost> love to stay and help, but i got to get going. been working too long
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[02-Jul-2008 13:23:42] <Guest18337> When will zenoss maintain layer 2 map and discovery?
[02-Jul-2008 13:58:55] <EekZ`> zenoss rocks!
[02-Jul-2008 14:04:09] <TBKdan> Well that was interesting..
[02-Jul-2008 14:07:23] <nemo_> at least he didnt sit repasting in his question that is on the first page of the admin guide ;p
[02-Jul-2008 14:15:18] <TBKdan> True
[02-Jul-2008 14:17:52] <TBKdan> Playing around with network statistics, and it doesn't appear to like the ethernetCsmacd template that came with Zenoss (it was crashing until I took off the threshold, now it's saying oids are bad). Are there any other net performance templates out there?
[02-Jul-2008 14:30:46] <Comradin> moin, moin
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:02] <nemo_> TBKdan, if you read the bug list, the ethernetCsmacd is buggy on early
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:08] <nemo_> versions*
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:36] <TBKdan> nemo_: I'm using 2.2.2...
[02-Jul-2008 14:33:35] <TBKdan> Wait, early versions of Zenoss or SNMP?
[02-Jul-2008 14:34:58] <nemo_> zenoss
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:00] <nemo_> 2.1.x
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:43] <MoreDakka> ha...2.1.x isn't that early ;-)
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:48] <MoreDakka> we are still running 1.1.1
[02-Jul-2008 14:36:25] <TBKdan> lol
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:22] <Comradin> some days ago I had to delete the Data.fs file, as it was 9G of size and had reduced the remaining space on the device close to a few megs..
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:39] <Comradin> two days ago I started the zenoss server again
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:56] <Comradin> today I watched the Data.fs file and its just 1.8M in size..
[02-Jul-2008 14:40:31] <Comradin> but, when accessing the servers webpage I got a message, that there are some zope users missing for the zenoss access
[02-Jul-2008 14:40:45] <Comradin> looks like I managed to kill the service
[02-Jul-2008 14:41:26] <Comradin> is it difficult to create the missing user?
[02-Jul-2008 14:43:00] <Comradin> if not, the server wasnt configured very much, so I could do a reinstall of the whole zenoss package
[02-Jul-2008 14:48:07] <TBKdan> I just realized that there are already performance graphs per interface if I just go to the OS tab... kind of annoying to look at two tabs for performance, but w/e, I guess it works...
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:34] <nemo_> pewr is different to OS
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:37] <nemo_> perf*
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:47] <nemo_> os is disks, interfaces, etc
[02-Jul-2008 14:55:02] <nemo_> perf = uptime, memory and so on, generated by the perf template
[02-Jul-2008 14:55:09] <nemo_> not by the snmp collectors
[02-Jul-2008 16:51:37] * locohost playes with the sand in his mini zenoss zen garden
[02-Jul-2008 16:52:54] <TBKdan> lol
[02-Jul-2008 16:53:05] * TBKdan eats his baby carrots
[02-Jul-2008 17:51:17] <duncan> I ran zenperfsnmp from the command line on a single host to debug collection for a new template... now every time I start zenperfsnmp it only scans that single node?! how do I get it to scan everything else again?
[02-Jul-2008 17:53:56] <duncan> this is what I get when I type zenperfsnmp run: ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: iteration over non-sequence]
[02-Jul-2008 17:55:57] <neil__> were you not the guy who lost his data.fs
[02-Jul-2008 17:55:58] <neil__> ?
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:11] <duncan> neil__: nope not me
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:11] <neil__> if so, thats where the devices were stored ...
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:20] <neil__> oh thats good for you then
[02-Jul-2008 17:58:50] <duncan> neil__: my $ZENHOME/var/Data.fs file is 1.9gb
[02-Jul-2008 18:03:25] <duncan> hmm looks like deleting my pickles might fix it
[02-Jul-2008 18:04:34] <neil__> zenpack the db is the way
[02-Jul-2008 18:04:44] <neil__> the pickle files are just temp cache i believe
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:30] <duncan> hmm yep, deleting the pickles didn't do squad
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:36] <duncan> squat rather
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:51] <duncan> zenpack the db? not sure what you mean
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:10] <neil__> google it ;p
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:18] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.itp.edu/
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:42] <neil__> whatever __adytum-bot__
[02-Jul-2008 18:24:45] <duncan> well, I tried removing all my zenpacks but that doesn't seem to work, I can manually scan single nodes with zenperfsnmp but it won't pull the list from zenhub -- I googled for "zenpack zenperfsnmp non-sequence" and didn't find anything relevant
[02-Jul-2008 18:28:27] <cluther> duncan: How did you come to the conclusion that it has something to do with zenpacks?
[02-Jul-2008 18:28:43] <cluther> I may have missed some context.
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:32] <duncan> cluther: neil__ suggested that I "zenpack the db" and "google it" when I asked what that meant... the only results I found were related to removing packages to fix the iteration of non-sequence errors I'm getting in zenperfsnmp
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:46] <cluther> ah, got it.
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:48] <cluther> Do this..
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:03] <cluther> Stop all of Zenoss, then do "zeoctl start" to only start ZEO.
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:06] <duncan> I'm noticing now, with zenperfsnmp, that each time it starts a new cycle it seems to have added 1 or 2 nodes to the list... it's up to 6 now out of what used to be 650+
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:22] <cluther> Then start zenhub in one terminal with "zenhub run -v 10"
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:31] <cluther> Then in another terminal run "zenperfsnmp run"
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:38] <duncan> cluther: allright, I'll try that
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:42] <cluther> Watch the zenhub Window and let me know what stack trace eventually appears.
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:53] <cluther> Pastebin it if you would.
[02-Jul-2008 18:33:22] <duncan> http://pastebin.com/m1c644f2
[02-Jul-2008 18:33:55] <cluther> duncan: Thanks.
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:07] <cluther> You have the ethernetCsmacd template bound to a device somewhere. Any idea where?
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:10] <cluther> This should never be done..
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:22] <cluther> Check out http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/how-zenoss-chooses-templates
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:26] <cluther> for an explanation of why
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:37] <__adytum-bot__> Title: How Zenoss Chooses Templates - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Jul-2008 18:35:47] <duncan> cluther: I'm not sure where that would be, but I bet I know who did it...!
[02-Jul-2008 18:36:02] <duncan> cluther: is there a way to trace this down from the exception?
[02-Jul-2008 18:38:34] <cluther> sure.. fire up zendmd.
[02-Jul-2008 18:39:05] <cluther> http://pastebin.com/maa49b36
[02-Jul-2008 18:40:27] <duncan> cluther: I pasted that data into zendmd, do I need to do something to tell it to run?
[02-Jul-2008 18:40:50] <cluther> an extra hit of enter will do it.
[02-Jul-2008 18:41:58] <duncan> excellent.. thanks! I'll unbind those devices
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:27] <duncan> I have the oreilly learning python book, I should have known that! =)
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:48] <cluther> heh.. if you say so.
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:50] <duncan> well, I restarted zenperfsnmp and it polled 145 nodes.. so it's getting better
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[02-Jul-2008 19:33:45] <magnachef> do I need to stop zenoss before running the zenbackup?
[02-Jul-2008 19:51:20] <cluther> magnachef: You don't need to.
[02-Jul-2008 19:52:54] <magnachef> I assumed it was just recommended, but not necessary
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[02-Jul-2008 20:33:25] <teletype> is there anything special i need to do in order to get zenmodeler to attempt to process the hrSWInstalled map for a device?
[02-Jul-2008 20:35:01] <teletype> nevermind, figured it out
[02-Jul-2008 20:36:15] <teletype> huzzah! i have the software tab populated via snmp for debian. =) wrote a perl snmpd extension implementing the hrswinstalled mib table
[02-Jul-2008 20:37:46] <neil__> curious, it just worked for me ..
[02-Jul-2008 20:38:53] <cluther> neil__: On Debian? I saw one of their developers posting somewhat recently that he was planning on adding this, but I didn't think it was part of the system yet.
[02-Jul-2008 20:39:31] <neil__> centos5 here
[02-Jul-2008 20:39:47] <neil__> i did load lots of mibs might have made a difference
[02-Jul-2008 20:41:52] <magnachef> when doing zenbackup is there anyway to have the /tmp/XXXX dir not be in /tmp? it's filling my root partition
[02-Jul-2008 20:42:37] <cluther> --temp-dir=/wherever
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:19] <cluther> neil__: RPM distributions do work just fine with the installed software. It's the apt based ones that don't.
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:21] <magnachef> nice, thx
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:29] <cluther> telexicon: That's very cool.. feel like sharing your extension?
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:33] <neil__> cluther, kool 4 me
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:44] <cluther> Doh.. teletype left.
[02-Jul-2008 21:52:55] <warwick> greetings zenoss people
[02-Jul-2008 21:53:42] <warwick> anyone know why installing zenpacks from the web GUI borks with: /bin/sh: zenpack: command not found
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:12] <warwick> something doesnt have the correct path? or env variables? ($ZENHOME?)
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:30] <warwick> installing zenpacks from the shell works fine
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:58] <warwick> zenoss 2.2.0
[02-Jul-2008 21:55:50] <cluther> Sounds like it'd have something to do with the way that Zope was started..
[02-Jul-2008 21:55:58] <cluther> su - zenoss
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:00] <cluther> zopectl restart
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:03] <cluther> Then try again
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:54] <warwick> cluther: thanks i will try that
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:09] <warwick> cluther: thanks. i was missing export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH in .bashrc and then needed to restart zenoss. working now
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:32] <cluther> Sometimes it's the simple things..
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:52] <warwick> right
[02-Jul-2008 22:07:03] <cluther> Source install?
[02-Jul-2008 22:07:56] <warwick> using the source, luke
[02-Jul-2008 23:08:43] <warwick> cluther: do you work for Zenoss?
[02-Jul-2008 23:08:49] <warwick> anyone here work for Zenoss?
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[03-Jul-2008 00:21:26] <magnachef> mrayzenoss does
[03-Jul-2008 03:17:32] <cgibbons> hmmm
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[03-Jul-2008 13:32:39] <alanjds_> Hi
[03-Jul-2008 13:34:47] <alanjds_> I have some trouble using XML-RPC interface
[03-Jul-2008 13:35:09] <alanjds_> and I already read the fancy manual
[03-Jul-2008 13:39:20] <alanjds_> ??
[03-Jul-2008 13:39:33] <alanjds_> is someone awake?
[03-Jul-2008 13:40:27] <cgibbons> sure, just not able to help
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:19] <TBKdan> awake is a subjective term.
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:21] <alanjds_> right
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:43] <alanjds_> ok, ok... is someone reading and able to reply?
[03-Jul-2008 13:51:12] <TBKdan> Possibly
[03-Jul-2008 13:51:45] <TBKdan> Whether or not I can help is a different story
[03-Jul-2008 13:54:07] <alanjds_> i'm trying to add 39 networks. So, why not use a script? Because I can't find how!
[03-Jul-2008 13:54:30] <alanjds_> even with Devel Guide and API Reference
[03-Jul-2008 13:55:12] <alanjds_> to me API Ref. seems broken
[03-Jul-2008 13:56:06] <alanjds_> described objects have not their described methods (exposed?)
[03-Jul-2008 13:56:22] <cluther> Which method on which object are you trying to call?
[03-Jul-2008 13:57:26] <alanjds_> ZenModel.IpNetwork.manage_addIpNetwork()
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:03] <alanjds_> but see:
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:40] <alanjds_> >>> net = dmd.getDmdRoot("Networks")
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:46] <alanjds_> >>> net
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:51] <alanjds_> <IpNetwork at /zport/dmd/Networks>
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:56] <alanjds_> >>> net.manage_addIpNetwork()
[03-Jul-2008 13:59:08] <alanjds_> AttributeError: manage_addIpNetwork
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:17] <cluther> I think the API states clearly that manage_addIpNetwork is a static method that is part of the IpNetwork module, not an object method.
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:35] <alanjds_> hum...
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:46] <cluther> use the createNet(CIDR) method instead
[03-Jul-2008 14:01:13] <kop__> there's a thread in the forums about "OID lookup in event transform", but there has been no resolution to that. anyone familiar with the problem?
[03-Jul-2008 14:01:25] <alanjds_> at API, addIpNetwork is not marked as @staticmethod
[03-Jul-2008 14:02:29] <kop__> I receive a trap where, in this case, upsAlarmDescr is "(1, 3, 6, 1, 2, 1, 33, 1, 6, 3, 2)"
[03-Jul-2008 14:02:47] <cluther> alanjds_: Fair enough, but you see that is in the module and not the class, right?
[03-Jul-2008 14:03:01] <kop__> clearly that (....) is supposed to be an OID, but it looks like a literal tuple to me
[03-Jul-2008 14:03:03] <cluther> alanjds_: Doesn't really matter.. createNet will work when called on an IpNetwork object.. manage_addIpNetwork won't.
[03-Jul-2008 14:04:07] <kop__> in other words: I need to resolve parameters of a trap while inside an event transform
[03-Jul-2008 14:04:44] <cluther> kop__: Zenoss won't try to decode the values in varbinds, only the names.. so I think that makes the answer to your question yes.
[03-Jul-2008 14:05:51] <cluther> kop__: See this ticket for an open enhancement request related to this: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/2778
[03-Jul-2008 14:05:58] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #2778 (Use MIB to decode value of trap varbinds) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[03-Jul-2008 14:08:06] <alanjds_> I'm back
[03-Jul-2008 14:09:47] <kop__> cluther: yeah, that is one instance is the problem
[03-Jul-2008 14:10:19] <cluther> kop__: I suppose a transform is the easiest way in that case. It sounds like the varbind is formatted weirdly anyway.
[03-Jul-2008 14:10:25] <cluther> kop__: I've never seen one like that before.
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:02] <kop__> cluther: in my example, I don't get it what happened - but as can see the OID in not in the format of a typical string representation for an OID.. but like, tuple-like
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:13] <kop__> yeah, exactly
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:28] <cluther> I've definitely seen OIDs come in as values and they didn't look like that.
[03-Jul-2008 14:13:01] <cluther> If you haven't already figured it out you can transform it to the normal OID string with this..
[03-Jul-2008 14:13:37] <cluther> evt.upsAlarmDescr = '.'.join(map(str, eval(evt.upsAlarmDescr)))
[03-Jul-2008 14:15:29] <alanjds_> cluther: can you send this script to me?
[03-Jul-2008 14:17:11] <cluther> alanjds_: Which script?
[03-Jul-2008 14:17:55] <kop__> cluther: figured that one out myself... but that leaves you still having to resolve them manually some other way to understand what's going on
[03-Jul-2008 14:18:11] <kop__> resolve <- as in oid2name
[03-Jul-2008 14:18:20] <kop__> or "google it"
[03-Jul-2008 14:19:21] <alanjds_> cluther: You said me to use createNet(CIDR). Have you an example?
[03-Jul-2008 14:19:50] <alanjds_> or better: where to find it at API?
[03-Jul-2008 14:20:13] <alanjds_> I know that is it there, but where?
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:03] <cluther> alanjds_: You're already looking at the IpNetwork module. Click into the IpNetwork class within there. createNet is a method on that class.
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:13] <cluther> kop__: oid2name would definitely be the nice way.
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:45] <cluther> evt.upsAlarmDescr = device.dmd.Mibs.oid2name('.'.join(map(str, eval(evt.upsAlarmDescr))))
[03-Jul-2008 14:22:45] <alanjds_> cluther: ok. Is there. Tks
[03-Jul-2008 14:22:58] <kop__> hmm so it's available under device dot ..
[03-Jul-2008 14:23:22] <kop__> how the heck are you supposed to know what namespaces are available where :-)
[03-Jul-2008 14:23:50] <cluther> kop__: Osmosis.
[03-Jul-2008 14:24:26] <cluther> kop__: You print out the source code and sleep with it under your pillow every night for 30 days.
[03-Jul-2008 14:25:51] <cluther> kop__: If you look at the applyTransform method of EventClassInst (Products/ZenEvents/EventClassInst.py) you'll see what objects it loads into the context for transforms.
[03-Jul-2008 14:30:55] <kop__> ah, that's a good hint
[03-Jul-2008 14:32:34] <TBKdan> Hopefully bash likes it too
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[03-Jul-2008 22:16:41] <ralfWORK> hello, I just installed zenoss-stack_2.2.0-0_i386.deb and am curious where I should access my admin panel
[03-Jul-2008 22:17:00] <ralfWORK> I tried http://host:8080/zport/dmd
[03-Jul-2008 22:17:07] <ralfWORK> but I get a tomcat 404
[03-Jul-2008 22:46:17] <ralfWORK> oh. sorry I'm a tard
[03-Jul-2008 22:46:34] <ralfWORK> firewall was pushing :8080 to another box
[03-Jul-2008 23:36:39] <Tripsev> Am I connected?
[03-Jul-2008 23:37:21] <Tripsev> Anybody available to assist me with Zenoss? I'm a beginner.
[03-Jul-2008 23:39:35] <Tripsev> Hello?
[03-Jul-2008 23:42:20] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[03-Jul-2008 23:52:58] <ralfWORK> yea I'm back
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:06] <Tripsev> oh, hi
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:11] <ralfWORK> hai!
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:23] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:57] <ralfWORK> I installed zenoss from the zenoss-stack Debian package... and it worked for a few minutes and then the web interface just kind astopped responding
[03-Jul-2008 23:54:00] <ralfWORK> any clues on this?
[03-Jul-2008 23:55:03] <Tripsev> Don't know. I have only run Zenoss for approximately 10 minutes successfully so far.
[03-Jul-2008 23:55:37] <Tripsev> Then the weekend hit. I'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on my 2k8 box tonight for further testing though.
[03-Jul-2008 23:58:53] <Tripsev> What I want to find out is whether I can remote control PCs on my monitored network with an integrated remote desktop client.
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[04-Jul-2008 00:00:50] <ralfWORK> I have no idea if that's possible, but it sounds far fetched to me
[04-Jul-2008 00:01:01] <ralfWORK> but don't listen to me, I'm more of a newb than you
[04-Jul-2008 00:02:53] <Tripsev> The company I work for monitors large networks. We currently use N-Able to do this at great cost. N-Able has an integrated remote control agent, as well as a 'help desk' login on a page that allows an Admin to VNC into unmanaged laptops.
[04-Jul-2008 00:03:40] <Tripsev> Zenoss already does at least 80% of what N-Able can do.
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[04-Jul-2008 04:41:52] <troy42> evening
[04-Jul-2008 13:40:42] <nemo_> weird one
[04-Jul-2008 13:40:54] <nemo_> trying to give admin privs to a user from AD
[04-Jul-2008 13:41:10] <nemo_> says it cant find him, but it so obviously does ...
[04-Jul-2008 14:00:26] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[04-Jul-2008 14:00:45] <nemo_> ???
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:02] <nemo_> it runs on unix
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:02] <Tripsev> Remote Desktop....
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:15] <nemo_> use , vnc , ssh , whatever you like
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:35] <Tripsev> I need it integrated into Zenoss
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:03] <Tripsev> I don't want to have to manually create a VNC session for each of the 1000's of monitored PCs.
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:20] <nemo_> FAIL
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:35] <Tripsev> Our current monitoring platfor "N-Able" already does this.
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:16] <Tripsev> *platform
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:16] <nemo_> scarp zenoss and use that then
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:21] <nemo_> scrap *
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:45] <Tripsev> Zenoss is free - N-Able is hellishly expensive.
[04-Jul-2008 15:22:10] <cy_`> hello
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:19] <cy_`> on a fresh installed "Ubuntu 8.04 - zenoss-stack-2.2.0-linux.bin" installation.. i get the same error like he does: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21733 .. when doing "zendeviceload"
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:36] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Migrate only device entries (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:39] <cy_`> what could possibly be wrong?
[04-Jul-2008 15:29:17] <cy_`> ping
[04-Jul-2008 18:17:57] <kso512> Tripsev: that sounds like a great idea for a ZenPack. Zenoss could detect port 5800 (or whichever port your est. uses) and make a link on the Summary page to load the HTTP/Java VNC connection pretty easily. Not sure how you'd launch the VNC Viewer executable from the Zenoss page, though. ActiveX maybe?
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[05-Jul-2008 05:42:02] <Tripsev> --> KSO512 Yes, I've seen it done using ActiveX with another web-based network monitoring system. Any given user visits a page and enters their credentials, as well as an Access Code.
[05-Jul-2008 05:44:00] <Tripsev> Once they've submitted the form a new page appears prompting them to download necessary software. Once they begin the installation the whole process of installing the VNC server is automated and controlled by the management server. The request for assistance prompts an Administrator logged into the web interface of the management server, allowing them to accept the connection and begin aiding the client.
[05-Jul-2008 05:45:13] <Tripsev> There are additional features I like about our current web based server from N-Able.
[05-Jul-2008 05:46:21] <Tripsev> The server basically listens for communication sent out port 80 (to bypass firewalls) and collects data that way. You set up a probe on a given network that performs all collection tasks and reports back to the server.
[05-Jul-2008 05:46:52] <Tripsev> You also have the option of installing "agents" by way of the already-present
[05-Jul-2008 05:47:23] <Tripsev> 'probe', which allows for more throrough monitoring and reporting of even deeper activity.
[05-Jul-2008 05:48:57] <Tripsev> With the agent installed on a given PC, you have the option of installing a "remote services manager" or RSM. This software allows for almost-instantaneous remote control though the web managment console of the RSM-installed agent.
[05-Jul-2008 05:50:32] <Tripsev> The RSM agent allows for VNC connection for viewing the screen (even without prompts to the user if you desire), controlling the mouse/keyboard, command prompt access, and live statistics of CPU/Disk or other performance metrics.
[05-Jul-2008 05:52:06] <Tripsev> The key to RSM is that the connection is basically a switch in the management console that alerts the Agent (which phones home to the server every minute or so for such things) that it wishes to establish said connection. This allows the connection to occur in almost any type of network setting.
[05-Jul-2008 05:55:33] <Tripsev> I would be more than happy to help Dev such a thing... but I'm not a coder. Although I do believe that if such features could be integrated into Zenoss, it would be extremely powerful.
[05-Jul-2008 06:56:07] <neil__> lol
[05-Jul-2008 07:15:17] <neil__> so code it yourself
[05-Jul-2008 07:15:22] <neil__> this is open source
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[06-Jul-2008 00:30:10] <MajereDB8> hi there, i'm currently testing out zenoss through the vmware appliance, and had a question about its modeling capability. i am attempting to monitor a network appliance using snmp, and can confirm that snmp is properly configured by walking the snmp tree through a different utility. however, i'm a bit lost in how to monitor certain system resources through zenoss
[06-Jul-2008 00:31:36] <MajereDB8> i've got the mibs loaded, and most of the oids that i need are in the standard host-resources mib. using a mib browser i can read data like the file systems, but zenoss doesn't appear to detect that information simply by modeling. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[06-Jul-2008 02:49:24] <troy42> hi
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[07-Jul-2008 06:52:15] <Ozux> I have a problem, I'm installing new ZenOSS, but after installing and Adding Networks to it and pressing "Discover Devices" (in that subnetwork) it do no thing, any idead? (it's on debian)
[07-Jul-2008 06:52:59] <Ozux> Note: I installed 2 others in our IDC and they work perfect on debian, even on Virtuozzo, but this one .. I don't know what should I du!
[07-Jul-2008 07:24:02] <nemo_> u shud learn 2 right
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[07-Jul-2008 10:01:33] <SniZ|work__> hi,. i add device to devices list. and when i try see graphs - i see MISSING RRD FILE
[07-Jul-2008 10:01:52] <SniZ|work__> how many time i must wait for see normal graps?
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[07-Jul-2008 11:36:32] <flo_> can somebody give me a hint on how2 monitor porcesses on SuSE and Windows machines?
[07-Jul-2008 12:13:49] <Ozux> flo__: I think you shoud use SNMP, it have some OID and MIB for this
[07-Jul-2008 12:18:19] <Ozux> flo__: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost hrSWRunParameters
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[07-Jul-2008 12:34:28] <flo__> that's clear, but how or where can i configure them in zenoss and also tell the system to just check them during office hours (7am-7pm)
[07-Jul-2008 13:46:55] <teknoprep> hi all
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:02] <teknoprep> have a few problems with zenoss that i don't know how to work out
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:08] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work__> hi,. i add device to devices list. and when i try see graphs - i see MISSING RRD FILE
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:09] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work__> how many time i must wait for see normal graps?
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:26] <teknoprep> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on voip.keystonesoftware.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:32] <teknoprep> what exactly does this mean ?
[07-Jul-2008 13:55:53] <teknoprep> nvm i fixed it
[07-Jul-2008 13:57:18] <flo__> how did you fix it?
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:29] <teknoprep> it was a linux server
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:33] <teknoprep> i fixed up the snmpd.conf
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:44] <teknoprep> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ#HowdoImakesurethefullSNMPtreeisbeingpublished
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Jul-2008 15:53:15] <teknoprep> how do i monitor a servers temperature with Zenoss ?
[07-Jul-2008 15:53:21] <teknoprep> windows servers
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:25] <Bulwinkle> teknoprep: find the OID and poll it
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:38] <teknoprep> how will it graph it ?
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:58] <Bulwinkle> teknoprep: create a graph
[07-Jul-2008 15:57:43] <teknoprep> how do i find the OID
[07-Jul-2008 15:57:47] <teknoprep> i see how to make the graph
[07-Jul-2008 18:13:35] <ckrough> How Now Brown Cow
[07-Jul-2008 18:21:00] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell zenoss to "just monitor everything" about a device?
[07-Jul-2008 18:21:49] <daMaestro> i have set "view all included .1" for the community, yet zenoss is monitoring very little
[07-Jul-2008 18:22:16] <kgoedtel> it is all dependent on your templates being used
[07-Jul-2008 18:22:29] <kgoedtel> zenoss needs to know what 'everything' is
[07-Jul-2008 18:23:51] <daMaestro> ok, so i need to apply more templates?
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:20] <ckrough> when the devices are discovered they will end up in /devices/discovered
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:48] <ckrough> you need to move the devices to the proper subclass of /devices so that zenoss can make assumptions on what they are and what should be monitored
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:52] <kgoedtel> if you place the server in a proper location, default templates will work automatically
[07-Jul-2008 18:25:19] <ckrough> ie, move network devices to the appropriate grouping under /devices/network , etc...
[07-Jul-2008 18:25:55] <daMaestro> yeah, well i put the device in a the linux server class.. but i'd really like to see everything monitored; so... it seems i need to create a template for what i want monitored and then bind the device to that template?
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:03] <kgoedtel> you keep saying 'everything'
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:15] <kgoedtel> everything is meaningless
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:23] <kgoedtel> net-snmp oid set is HUGE
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:59] <ckrough> it monitors a reasonable sane number of OIDs by default when the device is in a correct class
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:04] <ckrough> what type of device is it
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:18] <daMaestro> a linux server
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:32] <kgoedtel> so, what sort of data are you missing that you feel you should have?
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:44] <ckrough> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:52] <ckrough> read through that if you havent
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:58] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Jul-2008 18:31:48] <daMaestro> i have the above howto already implemented
[07-Jul-2008 18:38:23] <ckrough> what type of data are you missing
[07-Jul-2008 18:52:55] <daMaestro> for example, it doesn't correctly detect ethernet devices
[07-Jul-2008 18:54:20] <daMaestro> i'd like it to automatically acquire all ethernet devices and it's IP addresses
[07-Jul-2008 18:55:13] <daMaestro> also, it's miscalculating our ~65TB mounts
[07-Jul-2008 18:55:41] <daMaestro> and now, all of the perf graphs are reporting "nan%"
[07-Jul-2008 18:56:44] <daMaestro> another thing, why doesn't it know what to look for when wanting "uptime"
[07-Jul-2008 18:56:56] <daMaestro> "Uptime Unknown"
[07-Jul-2008 18:57:49] <kgoedtel> snmp definitely doesn't seem to be working properly for you
[07-Jul-2008 18:57:58] <kgoedtel> uptime is one of the most basic templates
[07-Jul-2008 19:05:58] <krphop> /opt/tier20 249.1GB 46.2TB -45.9TB 18981
[07-Jul-2008 19:06:35] <krphop> i'm assuming there is a limitation on how large a filesystem will be for zenoss to display it properly?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:05] <warwick> does anyone has any good advice on using hierarchy organization in Zenoss?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:07] <warwick> given 1,000+ servers of a few OS variants, with many different hardware configs, in multiple datacenters, split among many different functions (web, db, mail, dns, dev, storage etc etc) any suggestions for using hierarchy in Devices, Groups, Systems for best results in setting up monitoring?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:28] <warwick> How have you created your hierarchy in Devices? and how are you using Groups and Systems?
[07-Jul-2008 19:47:48] <kgoedtel> we use groups do describe physical locations and systems to model virtualized systems
[07-Jul-2008 19:47:53] <kgoedtel> to describe*
[07-Jul-2008 19:48:09] <kgoedtel> any given system may belong to multiple groups
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:00] <kgoedtel> device classes are only used for organizing templates and their bindings
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:39] <warwick> kgoedtel: interesting. so you are not using Locations?
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:39] <kgoedtel> which results in classifying system by model, type, or function
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:59] <kgoedtel> yeah we use that too
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:46] <kgoedtel> actually now that i think of it, yeah locations for address of datacenter
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:53] <warwick> so device classes, i am still undecided on how to create the devices tree
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:56] <kgoedtel> we have 3 locations
[07-Jul-2008 19:51:20] <kgoedtel> i think the main function of groups for us is to place servers in each cluster together
[07-Jul-2008 19:51:24] <warwick> whether to use hardware type, server function or OS to form the Devices hierachy
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:01] <warwick> how have you created your Devices classes?
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:11] <kgoedtel> i started doing hardware but it got too complicated
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:27] <kgoedtel> i resorted to mostly focusing on function of device
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:44] <warwick> ok
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:11] <kgoedtel> i have placed a lot of templates in server that 'could' work on devices in a sub class - but only bind to the ones i want modeled
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:21] <kgoedtel> err server class
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:57] <warwick> so you retained the default classes that ship with zenoss? messing with those seemed to produce Bad Things
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:07] <warwick> device classes that is
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:29] <kgoedtel> yeah it gets messy if you want to add zenpacks and such
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:30] <warwick> especially with Zenpacks that expected to find a Server class
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:35] <warwick>
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:50] <kgoedtel> i have created a bunch myself and don't care to change it again :]
[07-Jul-2008 19:55:01] <warwick> i hear you
[07-Jul-2008 19:55:44] <kgoedtel> fortunately we have really homogenized our devices/network here so things are fairly simple
[07-Jul-2008 19:56:55] <kgoedtel> i have found that systems and groups are only really useful for running reports
[07-Jul-2008 19:57:06] <kgoedtel> i don't use them for anything else really
[07-Jul-2008 19:58:35] <warwick> right, and they are arbitrary anyway, since zenoss doesnt appear to use Systems or Groups internally for anything. you could rename them anything you want probably?
[07-Jul-2008 19:58:47] <warwick> would be interesting to see more examples submitted to http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/06/06/show-us-your-zenoss-install/
[07-Jul-2008 19:59:02] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Show us your Zenoss Install! | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[07-Jul-2008 19:59:07] <warwick> to see how people have decided to setup zenoss
[07-Jul-2008 20:00:33] <kgoedtel> ours is pretty vanilla
[07-Jul-2008 20:00:57] <kgoedtel> i just take advantage of the extensibility of it
[07-Jul-2008 20:01:16] <kgoedtel> through net-snmp pass scripts, zenpacks, and custom templates
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:02] <kgoedtel> otherwise the defaults are relatively intact
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:25] <warwick> are you using any nagios check scripts or plugins? we are considering zenoss as a replacement for nagios+munin
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:46] <kgoedtel> yeah through zenpacks only though
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:54] <kgoedtel> i dislike the raw commands
[07-Jul-2008 20:03:57] <kgoedtel> we used nagios for a while, but i like zenoss wayyyy more
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:25] <kgoedtel> and i think i would love it even more if i was actually good at python
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:49] <warwick> are any of your zenpacks available for d/l?
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:58] <kgoedtel> nope :\
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:19] <kgoedtel> most of them are custom to our setup so they wouldnt be much use to anyone
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:27] <warwick> gotcha
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:46] <kgoedtel> although i should contribute back my changes to the apache zenpack that they provide
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:06] <kgoedtel> theirs is crap
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:18] <warwick> last question, kgoedtel are you using different collectors in each location?
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:35] <kgoedtel> no but we have considered it
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:57] <kgoedtel> it is annoying when the wan goes down between them
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:11] <warwick> how many devices do you have in zenoss, and do you see any performance issues on the zenoss server?
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:17] <kgoedtel> and due to the vpn stuff the dependencies dont resolve properly
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:23] <kgoedtel> so they all fail remotely
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:56] <kgoedtel> a few hundred, and zenoss is a huge memory hog
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:10] <kgoedtel> cpu wise it is pretty negligible
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:50] <warwick> yeah i dont think we would be able to handle 1000 devices with a single zenoss collector, based on what it looks like with 30 test devices right now
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:58] <kgoedtel> right now we have 3 gigs for zenoss which isn't really enough
[07-Jul-2008 20:09:09] <warwick> hey thanks for the info, interesting
[07-Jul-2008 20:09:30] <kgoedtel> np
[07-Jul-2008 20:18:51] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question for anyone out there - i'm testing out the zenoss vmware image, and i have an e-mail alert rule set up. it's going to send over SMS, so i'd like zenoss to acknowledge the alert when the receipient replies to the e-mail. can anyone point me in the right direction for where i could find some directions?
[07-Jul-2008 20:19:51] <MajereDB8> unfortunately the administrator guide and the forums didn't seem to cover something like that
[07-Jul-2008 20:26:58] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, are you running 32bit or 64bit?
[07-Jul-2008 20:30:01] <ckrough> \
[07-Jul-2008 20:40:39] <kgoedtel> 64bit rhel5
[07-Jul-2008 20:43:42] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, i'd recommend looking at using 32bit. zope (really, python 2.4) eats amazing amounts of RAM with a 64bit platform
[07-Jul-2008 20:43:53] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, with 32bit.. the ram usage is much more sensible
[07-Jul-2008 20:45:24] <kgoedtel> i run it under xen and would rather not run 32bit virtuals :] memory is cheap anyhow
[07-Jul-2008 20:45:43] <kgoedtel> i am satisfied with the responsiveness otherwise
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:02] <krphop> i just wish i could get the friggin thing to wrok
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:04] <krphop> lol
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:26] <kgoedtel> where are you stuck?
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:46] <daMaestro> yeah, what species of animal are we needing to sacrifice to get zenoss to automatically enumerate the networking interfaces ?
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:04] <krphop> 1. none of my interface graphs work
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:08] <kgoedtel> i dunno, my interfaces work fine :\
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:13] <krphop> 2. i cant add IP's to a eth interface
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:34] <krphop> 3. graphs are borked for one of my hosts, even after deleting and re-creating the device
[07-Jul-2008 20:48:33] <krphop> 4. there's no real howto guide to create devices, templates, etc. just a bunch of documentation on what it all can do, not how to use it
[07-Jul-2008 20:48:47] <krphop> thats about where i'm stuck so far ;-)
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:10] <kgoedtel> yeah i dunno
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:37] <kgoedtel> out of the box everything worked for me, and my tech-intuition usually helps me a bit to figure things out
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:45] <kgoedtel> i haven't read much of any documentation
[07-Jul-2008 20:54:51] <kgoedtel> the stuff available now is far better than what they had when i started using it though
[07-Jul-2008 20:55:05] <kgoedtel> i started with 1.x
[07-Jul-2008 22:21:08] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell zenoss to re-try auto-detecting stuff like filesystems, ethernet devices, etc?
[07-Jul-2008 23:03:15] <kso512> daMaestro: Zenoss will re-model every device every 24 hours by default, AFAIK...
[07-Jul-2008 23:03:40] <daMaestro> yeah, i found how to force it to re-model.. but it didn't pick up all the automagic i expected
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[08-Jul-2008 00:27:29] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3337
[08-Jul-2008 00:27:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3337 (at fpaste.org)
[08-Jul-2008 00:28:13] * daMaestro blah, i really don't want to debug any template issues today
[08-Jul-2008 00:30:58] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[08-Jul-2008 00:31:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[08-Jul-2008 00:46:32] <explody> anyone know how to configure zenoss to monitor a device or service only during a certain time period?
[08-Jul-2008 00:48:57] <explody> oh I see, maintenance windows
[08-Jul-2008 01:06:22] <explody> I may be stuck in nagios-land, but if I fix a problem and I want zenoss to reflect the fix immediately, is there a way to force a check of a service or host?
[08-Jul-2008 01:08:24] <explody> aaaan last but not least, why, following what appears to be a clean restart, amd I getting this in events: 18:07:14.000 helium.gemstone.com zenwin heartbeat failure
[08-Jul-2008 01:08:47] <explody> while I'm getting this in the zenwin log: 18:03:19 WARNING zen.zenwin: Reconnected to ZenHub
[08-Jul-2008 01:09:10] <explody> someone is wrong, methinks....
[08-Jul-2008 01:55:58] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[08-Jul-2008 02:00:10] <imperfect-> Anyone about?
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[08-Jul-2008 12:10:34] <imperfect-> Morning, anyone around?
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[08-Jul-2008 13:34:34] <duncan> is it possible to duplicate a performance template? I have one created in /Devices/Server and when I try to copy it to the same folder it does nothing
[08-Jul-2008 14:12:11] <linash> duncan, no problem here: the template is copied with a 'copy_of_' prefix.
[08-Jul-2008 14:34:35] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[08-Jul-2008 14:34:57] <imperfect-> I'm using core and it's listing the same device twice on the dashboard... anyone know why?
[08-Jul-2008 15:00:49] <magnachef> what version?
[08-Jul-2008 15:11:43] <imperfect-> 2.1
[08-Jul-2008 15:12:09] <magnachef> and you're not seeing duplicates in the device list?
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:52] <imperfect-> Correction here
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:56] <imperfect-> I'm using 2.2
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:57] <imperfect-> And no
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> Starting Zope Object Database
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> . daemon process started, pid=7256
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> (this can take a few minutes)
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:01] <imperfect-> I'm nots eeing duplicates in the device list
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:05] <n0c> any thoughts?
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:10] <n0c> this is hanging
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:11] <imperfect-> just in the dashboard notifications
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:30] <n0c> this is from ./install.sh
[08-Jul-2008 17:12:20] <MajereDB8> hi, i'm currently testing the zenoss vmware image, and am trying to set up an e-mail alert rule that can be acknowledged via an e-mail response, rather than by visiting the web site listed in the default rule. essentially, i'd like to be able to respond to an e-mail with one of two messages, one that will acknowledge the event and one that will tell zenoss to e-mail another technician.
[08-Jul-2008 17:12:21] <MajereDB8> i haven't been able to find much documentation on the admin guide or the web boards for something like that, and wondered if someone point me in the right direction
[08-Jul-2008 17:34:23] <magnachef> I've never heard of that, actually...but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist
[08-Jul-2008 17:34:39] <magnachef> documentation is generally pretty thin
[08-Jul-2008 17:36:45] <MajereDB8> yeah... i'm guessing that the alert rule chaining to e-mail a second technician wouldn't be that complicated. the acknowledge by e-mail one is a bit over my head, but i'd think it would be a pretty common request
[08-Jul-2008 17:37:27] <MajereDB8> a lot of people use e-mail to SMS gateways instead of pagers and you may not be able to hit a web site over SMS
[08-Jul-2008 17:37:35] <MajereDB8> well, over a device with SMS
[08-Jul-2008 17:38:01] <MajereDB8> obviously you can't surf the web via text
[08-Jul-2008 17:39:33] <magnachef> indeed
[08-Jul-2008 17:39:42] <magnachef> have you posted to the zenoss-dev forum?
[08-Jul-2008 17:40:32] <magnachef> you may get a better response there - and from one of the devs
[08-Jul-2008 17:41:49] <MajereDB8> i haven't. i'm a bit sheepish about posting what comes even close to resembling a feature request, but hey it's worth a shot
[08-Jul-2008 17:45:53] <magnachef> eh, someone's gotta do it
[08-Jul-2008 17:46:08] <magnachef> otherwise, they may not feel it's that important
[08-Jul-2008 18:32:35] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to get an interactive session using a user command?
[08-Jul-2008 18:32:43] <imperfect-> i.e. could i somehow get it to spawn telnet or ssh ?
[08-Jul-2008 19:14:44] <explody> any ideas why my zenoss box has heartbeat failures for zenwin, zenprocess and zeventlog, although all 3 are up and running fine and report themselves as connected to the hub?
[08-Jul-2008 19:15:10] <explody> I seem to remember this having happened the last time I tried out zenoss as well. but I can't remember if I found the cause
[08-Jul-2008 19:20:27] <imperfect-> explody: You done much w/ ZenOSS?
[08-Jul-2008 19:21:49] <explody> a fair amount
[08-Jul-2008 19:22:16] <explody> it's been a while since I last looked into it
[08-Jul-2008 19:23:48] <telexicon_> explody, that always happens whenever i try zenoss
[08-Jul-2008 19:24:11] <telexicon_> along with a few other random failures.. eventually i just give up trying to make it work
[08-Jul-2008 19:24:29] <explody> hah, that's what happened to me last time
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:07] <telexicon_> like it was scanning my servers, and then it said all of my server's http services had failed, even though they were running fine.. and i couldnt figure out how to clear the events
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:22] <explody> yeah I remember that too
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:23] <telexicon_> and then it started flooding all these other events for computers that i never told it to watch (workstations.. i dont care about those)
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:34] <explody> this new ver seems easier, you can move events to history
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:22] <telexicon_> hmm, ill have to give it a try again sometime
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:31] <imperfect-> It's behaving very weird, this ZenOSS is.
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:34] <telexicon_> we still haven't found any other monitoring solutions
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:37] <imperfect-> I've got a process class created for dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:51] <imperfect-> and it works on one box, find the process and all is well
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:57] <imperfect-> but reports it down on a TWIN sister box
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:59] <telexicon_> i tried hyperic, but it fell apart after a little bit
[08-Jul-2008 19:31:44] <explody> telexicon_: there's always nagios
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[08-Jul-2008 19:34:25] <imperfect-> Man this just doesn't make sense
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:29] <imperfect-> I've got 2 identical boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:35] <imperfect-> which were working fine all day monitoring dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:41] <imperfect-> now suddenly one of them is showing down
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:45] <imperfect-> for no apparent reason
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:52] <telexicon_> explody, *sighs* .. i suppose
[08-Jul-2008 19:39:35] <explody> telexicon_: nagios+monarch isn't bad, it's what we're using now
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:14] <magnachef> what is the full process name?
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:29] <imperfect-> /usr/bin/dhcpd
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[08-Jul-2008 19:51:51] <magnachef> and are you ignoring parameters?
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:03] <imperfect-> I am
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:05] <imperfect-> Like I said
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:08] <imperfect-> it was working all flipping day
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:10] <imperfect-> both boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:11] <imperfect-> nothing different
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:12] <imperfect-> nothing changed
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:14] <imperfect-> and RANDOMLY
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:19] <imperfect-> it just stopped working on one
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:20] <magnachef> oh yeah, come to think of it, you probably are timing out
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:21] <imperfect-> threw an error
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:32] <imperfect-> What causes that?
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:35] <magnachef> I had this issue, and I bumped up my zSNMPTimeout
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:48] <magnachef> (or something like that in zProperties)
[08-Jul-2008 19:53:31] <magnachef> just that SNMP can hang when walking the processes, and just alerts because of it that it isn't running
[08-Jul-2008 19:54:37] <magnachef> so under the /Devices class, click on zProperties, then change zSnmpTimeout
[08-Jul-2008 19:54:57] <magnachef> I actually have it bumped up to 15.0
[08-Jul-2008 19:55:43] <magnachef> so was the one that randomly stopped working the primary of the two?
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:07] <imperfect-> Uhm
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:12] <imperfect-> I dont ahve them in there as primary and secondary
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:16] <imperfect-> I jsut have two boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:19] <imperfect-> they're identical
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:22] <imperfect-> one worked and one didnt
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:36] <magnachef> ok, jw
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:05] <imperfect-> magnachef: the wrid this is, I deleted the osProcess from the host
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:08] <imperfect-> and it re-added itself!
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:10] <imperfect-> and now it's fine
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:32] <magnachef> yeah, if you remodel the device it will find it an add it
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:43] <imperfect-> But how does it know that's what I'm looking for?
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:45] <magnachef> so now lock it from being removed
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:01] <magnachef> because you defined the regex in Processes
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:18] <imperfect-> Right, but I deleted the process from the host?
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:32] <magnachef> you did that before remodeling though, right?
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:37] <magnachef> so everytime you model it, or zenmodeler runs and remodels the device, it checks your processes on the machine against the regexp's you defined. If it matches one, it'll add it to your host, unless you specify otherwise
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:48] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:51] <imperfect-> I never remodeled.
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:56] <imperfect-> Maybe that's the step I'm missing.
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:10] <imperfect-> (I've been using Zen for like 5 hours, sorry)
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:30] <imperfect-> the googlemaps integration is cool but it's so darn slow ;(
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:45] <magnachef> heh, ok...then you still have a good amount of playing/tweaking to go :-)
[08-Jul-2008 20:07:19] <magnachef> I've never used it
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:23] <imperfect-> nod nod
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:35] <imperfect-> magnachef: well it's neat. I work for a large metropolitian school district
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:43] <imperfect-> I've got like 70 sites or so
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:52] <imperfect-> so Ig uess I'm mid sized.. anyway, with the gmaps addon
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:01] <imperfect-> I get dots all over thecity, it's pretty sweet
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:07] <magnachef> nice...I used to work for a bank, and I know that it could definitely come in handy
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:28] <magnachef> yeah, I don't have much use for it now unfortunately
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:07] <imperfect-> Yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:08] <imperfect-> But like I said
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:09] <imperfect-> it's slow
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:20] <imperfect-> I've got this setup on a quad core box w/ 8 gig of ram
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:37] <magnachef> yeah, unfortunately there's the internet and google's service that it's reliant on
[08-Jul-2008 20:18:50] <imperfect-> nod nod
[08-Jul-2008 20:18:55] <imperfect-> I wish it'd cache it or something
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:00] <imperfect-> take a snap show to show while it's loading
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:01] <imperfect-> something!
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:16] <imperfect-> anything other than an empty spot on my dashboard
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:23] <magnachef> it would be nice to download the data for a certain region
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:32] <imperfect-> Here's another question: what exactly is the 'use' of the network map?
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:47] <imperfect-> I mean it's a neat toy, but I'm having trouble figuring out how it can be useful
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:08] <magnachef> help visualize networks, subnets, connected devices, etc
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:27] <imperfect-> Well I guess my real question is: it's not very useful since it isn't static
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:42] <imperfect-> if it were like a visio drawing, that'd be helpful but as it stands you start fresh each time
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:07] <imperfect-> So where it could totally awesome as a GUI status map, it's not very helpful because it isn't static
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:20] <magnachef> well, I believe you can have your different network clouds and see high level status, then drill in accordingly
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:42] <magnachef> it seems kinda nagios-like, IIRC
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:54] <imperfect-> Yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:57] <imperfect-> I've added my core router
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:59] <imperfect-> (big mistake)
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:05] <magnachef> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:12] <imperfect-> and it does let me drill down
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:23] <imperfect-> but it'd be more useful, imo, if you could select a pre-configured map view
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:43] <magnachef> you can select the default setting and device/network
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:00] <imperfect-> Well
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:05] <imperfect-> What I need to get this adopted here
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:10] <imperfect-> is a map-overview
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:36] <imperfect-> something a CIO can stare at
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:39] <imperfect-> and know all is well
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:53] <magnachef> yeah, seems more like the Google map stuff than the network map stuff
[08-Jul-2008 20:24:43] <imperfect-> I'm printing out the manual as we speak
[08-Jul-2008 20:24:53] <imperfect-> So hopefully i can figure something out
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:32] <magnachef> yeah, it's a little bit of help, but also search through the forums for help
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:33] <imperfect-> LOL
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:35] <imperfect-> this is nuts!
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:39] <imperfect-> Now I"m getting errors on that host
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:45] <imperfect-> and yet under OS processes
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:51] <imperfect-> the status is green
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:09] <magnachef> what errors, and are you looking at the event list?
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:17] <imperfect-> at the dashboard
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:20] <imperfect-> and then event list
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:26] <imperfect-> it shows there being an error on the process
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:30] <imperfect-> i go in ack/history it
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:32] <imperfect-> minute later
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:33] <imperfect-> comes back
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:34] <magnachef> make sure you set the event list to "start" so that it refreshes
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:36] <imperfect-> go into os
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:53] <magnachef> well, you need to just ack it
[08-Jul-2008 20:27:09] <magnachef> if you move it to history, then it happens again, it'll show back up in the list
[08-Jul-2008 20:27:41] <imperfect-> well isnt that what I want to have happen?
[08-Jul-2008 20:30:47] <imperfect-> See something else is weird
[08-Jul-2008 20:30:59] <imperfect-> Because when I add the sister box, I've noticed the name of the process is /usr/sbin/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:31:06] <imperfect-> but on this main box, the name is set to dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:37:30] <imperfect-> See, another problem is, there's no way to get anything but a green dot
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:14] <magnachef> what is your regex?
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:46] <magnachef> I've seen taht before, because it goes off of the snmp HRSWRun mib variable, or one of those
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:57] <imperfect-> my regex is just dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:21] <magnachef> so you may need to include the path
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:25] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:27] <imperfect-> That's the thing
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:30] <imperfect-> the other one is _fine_
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:30] <imperfect->
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:33] <imperfect-> has been all day
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:33] <magnachef> so make it /usr/sbin/dhcp
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:39] <imperfect-> I've done that too
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:47] <imperfect-> it escaped the /
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:53] <magnachef> I've had some issues with that too though
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:00] <imperfect-> so it'd hgave to be \/usr\/bin\/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:01] <imperfect-> prolly
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:03] <magnachef> with ldap though,
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:22] <magnachef> it may be a bug, myrayzenoss, you around?!
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:30] <imperfect-> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:39] <imperfect-> Well the big problem I'm seeing going forward is
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:40] <magnachef> I believe that's what they told me, you should do a quick search in the forums
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:45] <imperfect-> 70 dots ona city map aren't real useful
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:02] <magnachef> they don't change color?
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:07] <imperfect-> They do
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:11] <imperfect-> But I'm just playing CIo
[08-Jul-2008 20:43:29] <magnachef> well, it's high level...what are you thinking that a CIO will want
[08-Jul-2008 20:43:36] <magnachef> or your CIO more specifically
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:02] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:03] <imperfect-> Honestly
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:10] <imperfect-> It's my direct boss who is used to larger icons
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:16] <imperfect-> big green bastards
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:33] <magnachef> heh, you may be able to change the actual images
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:45] <magnachef> just make them bigger...and greener too!
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:24] <imperfect-> Honestly
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:28] <imperfect-> That'd prolly work
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:29] <imperfect-> Tell me
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:32] <imperfect-> are you using core?
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:36] <magnachef> yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:44] <imperfect-> any idea what the pricing model is?
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:49] <magnachef> per device
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:54] <imperfect-> oh guh
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:54] <imperfect->
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:59] <imperfect-> I've got at least 1k switches
[08-Jul-2008 20:46:14] <magnachef> yeah, it depends on what level of service you want
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:12] <imperfect-> I'm not as interested in the service as I am in better device support
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:23] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/product/enterprise
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:32] <imperfect-> Right now my 6513 catalyst has like 300 unrouted vlan interfaces that complain
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:11] <magnachef> This may answer your question better: http://www.zenoss.com/product/
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:31] <imperfect-> See
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:40] <imperfect-> that Global Dashboard is prolly what I want for the CIO
[08-Jul-2008 20:49:01] <magnachef> right
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:12] <imperfect-> them making rancid a pay feature
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:13] <imperfect-> is
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:15] <imperfect-> just well, rancid
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:33] <magnachef> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:53:01] <imperfect-> Though I'm thinking with a custom varible you could prolly get configs to live in Zen
[08-Jul-2008 20:53:34] <magnachef> well, it's open, so you can do anything, with the right skill set
[08-Jul-2008 20:54:51] <magnachef> that's the nice part
[08-Jul-2008 20:55:45] <warwick> hi everyone. if i am using only SSH and no SNMP, how can I troubleshoot why disk usage stats all remain "unknown" and performance charts dont work?
[08-Jul-2008 20:56:18] <warwick> manually running zenplugin.py via ssh on the monitored devices returns the data as expected
[08-Jul-2008 20:57:26] <magnachef> not sure, I only use snmp
[08-Jul-2008 21:01:21] <warwick> anyone hit this issue before? i see a bunch of discussions in the forums but they all seemed to revolve around snmp config issues
[08-Jul-2008 21:18:44] <imperfect-> The manual doesn't say much at all about the network map
[08-Jul-2008 21:18:49] <imperfect-> like where to set the default object
[08-Jul-2008 21:19:11] <magnachef> The manual is very thin...you can find that in the forum I think...
[08-Jul-2008 21:19:35] <imperfect-> kk
[08-Jul-2008 21:52:08] <ghettodev> anyone know where id start if I wanted to run through all my servers and pull out the mysql versions?
[08-Jul-2008 21:55:14] <magnachef> within zenoss? or actually going to each server?
[08-Jul-2008 21:59:44] <ghettodev> within zenoss. i'm hoping i can set up a regex product manufacturer or there is some way to do it in the reporting section
[08-Jul-2008 22:02:58] <ghettodev> magnachef: sorry, i always forget to quote usernames in my replies
[08-Jul-2008 22:07:01] <magnachef> is it being tracked via the software tab?
[08-Jul-2008 22:07:11] <ghettodev> yah
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[08-Jul-2008 23:02:40] <cdehaan> Hello! I added a router under the /network/router/cisco default template, but I want to remove some of the items that are monitored. I can delete them from the device OS tab, but they reappear at each remodel. What's the correct way to remove these from t
[08-Jul-2008 23:07:43] <cdehaan> *from being monitored on this device?
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[08-Jul-2008 23:16:14] <n0c> /eval say that's harsh
[08-Jul-2008 23:16:19] <n0c> haha
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[09-Jul-2008 00:57:17] <cdehaan> :/ Any advice?
[09-Jul-2008 01:03:35] <explody> not from me...
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:22] <cdehaan> haha
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:32] <cdehaan> Aaanyone else?
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:33] <explody> hey, it's better than silence
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:46] <cdehaan> Undoubtedly.
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:54] <cdehaan> Well, at least in this case.
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:59] <cdehaan> So you're a Zenoss user?
[09-Jul-2008 01:09:47] <explody> mmm I'm a Zenoss evaluator
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:22] <cdehaan> Evaluator? Considering implementing it?
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:31] <explody> pretty much, yes
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:45] <explody> I've looked into it a few times
[09-Jul-2008 01:19:05] <cdehaan> What others are you comparing it against?
[09-Jul-2008 01:19:25] <cdehaan> I'm in a similar state -- my organization currently uses Nagios, is looking for upgrade paths, and I'm supposed to be implementing Zenoss for them as a test.
[09-Jul-2008 01:22:25] <explody> yeah we use nagios as well
[09-Jul-2008 01:25:18] <cdehaan> What other options are you looking at?
[09-Jul-2008 01:39:48] <kso512> cdehaan: I think you can Lock a device, so that it won't change on the next remodel...
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:26] <cdehaan> kso512: I saw that... is that the proper way to do it, or is the idea really to have each device have it's own "local" template?
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:32] <kso512> cdehaan: or even just parts of a device, like the filesystems, network interfaces, etc
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:52] <cdehaan> You can lock portions?
[09-Jul-2008 01:41:25] <kso512> cdehaan: let me check...
[09-Jul-2008 01:41:53] <cdehaan> You're right, you can
[09-Jul-2008 01:42:33] <kso512> cdehaan:
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:04] <cdehaan> So is that the method normally used?
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:24] <kso512> cdehaan: making a special template would help when/if adding new devices.
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:28] <cdehaan> I guess my idea was more that one should customize it and have a template that was customized for each device/set of devices that are the same, instead of just going through and locking
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:33] <kso512> cdehaan: I'm not sure...
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:41] <cdehaan> kso512: OK, so how can I see all templates that are affecting a devices?
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:46] <cdehaan> Does the "templates" tab of a device list them all/
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:50] <kso512> cdehaan: I think your thinking is right.
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:07] <kso512> cdehaan: yep - and it should say where it inherited it from as well
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:13] <cdehaan> OK.
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:22] <cdehaan> So where can I view everything that each template entails?
[09-Jul-2008 01:46:41] <kso512> cdehaan: go to the device class (i.e. /Devices/Server/Linux) and then click on the Templates tab
[09-Jul-2008 01:46:46] <cdehaan> For example, I have one Cisco router added at /Devices/Network/Routers/Cisco/ROUTERNAME. It only shows one template, /Devices/Network//Routers/Cisco. Does this mean that's the only template, nothing is inherited from /Devices or /Devices/Network/Router?
[09-Jul-2008 01:47:56] <kso512> cdehaan: Navigate to /Devices/Network/Router/Cisco, then click on the Templates tab
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:15] <kso512> cdehaan: I have 6 rows listed on my install of 2.2
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:32] <cdehaan> Ok, I do as well.
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:45] <kso512> cdehaan: Is that what you were looking for?
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:50] <cdehaan> So all of those templates apply, how would I disable a particular inherited template for a particular device?
[09-Jul-2008 01:49:44] <cdehaan> like, say there are a bunch of interfaces monitored on said ROUTERNAME, but many of them aren't hooked up to anything, so they are generating warning statements
[09-Jul-2008 01:50:46] <kso512> cdehaan: Hrmm.. Not sure how to make them not inherit certain templates - there are no check boxes...
[09-Jul-2008 01:51:08] <cdehaan> kso512: Haha, sorry, I've roped you in to helping me.
[09-Jul-2008 01:51:45] <kso512> cdehaan: A template would only make sense then if all the devices had the same ports in use... And any new additions would require changing the template. For that case I'd use the lock...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:00] <kso512> cdehaan: Hehehe - no prob...! I learn from this too...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:35] <kso512> I'm also "evaluating" for our company...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:54] <kso512> I just wish I had the time to really dive in and learn it all, not just dabble and patch...
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:15] <cdehaan> Ok, so a template should essentially contain all possibilities for a set of devices (in this example, Cisco Routers, an already created template), and then the things that that device does not need should be removed and the section locked?
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:27] <kso512> cdehaan: yep
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:40] <cdehaan> OK, I suppose that makes sense.
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:55] <cdehaan> The only issue I see is where a particular service should be added back in to a device, I'm not sure the logistics of that operation
[09-Jul-2008 01:54:01] <cdehaan> But I suppose I can cross that bridge when I come to it
[09-Jul-2008 01:54:59] <cdehaan> I'm no Nagios expert by any means, but I guess I'm used to that way of thinking -- explicitly adding items, whereas Zenoss seems more like a "here's everything we see, remove what you don't want."
[09-Jul-2008 01:55:02] <kso512> cdehaan: unlock, remodel, tidy, lock
[09-Jul-2008 01:55:03] <cdehaan> Which makes equally as much sense.
[09-Jul-2008 02:03:42] <cdehaan> I see.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:00] <cdehaan> Cool. That makes sense.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:04] <cdehaan> Thank you for your help kso512.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:08] <cdehaan> I really appreciate it
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[09-Jul-2008 10:36:02] <flo_> All, can somebody explain me how I can define process monitoring via snmp during certain times during the day, or point me to a helpful docu/wiki/howto?
[09-Jul-2008 13:06:25] <TBKdan> Any easy ways to monitor an exchange cluster?
[09-Jul-2008 13:36:08] <flo_> nope, different porcesses
[09-Jul-2008 13:45:08] <Dockmaster> Hey all
[09-Jul-2008 13:45:27] <Dockmaster> I need some help configuring Zenwin, anyone help me?
[09-Jul-2008 13:47:00] <Dockmaster> Anyone?
[09-Jul-2008 13:47:21] <TBKdan> What are you trying to do?
[09-Jul-2008 13:51:06] <Dockmaster> I am trying to configure the "zeneventlogconfig", "zenwinconfig", "zenwinmodelerconfig" files, but I cannot find a guide on how to do so
[09-Jul-2008 13:53:13] <Dockmaster> ...any ideas?
[09-Jul-2008 13:56:04] <TBKdan> The only things I have for them are "monitor localhost"
[09-Jul-2008 13:56:18] <TBKdan> Don't know of any other options (never looked though)
[09-Jul-2008 14:00:54] <Dockmaster> Ok, thanks
[09-Jul-2008 14:31:53] <danny2> hi
[09-Jul-2008 14:34:35] <danny2> i'm trying to model a windows xp device. if i put the pc in the servers/windows device group i'm getting a list of installed software. if i put the pc in the discovered group i'm getting a "bad wmi state" error. has anyone an idea what i'm doing wrong ?
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[09-Jul-2008 15:38:39] <kso512> Hi all - Has anyone else seen an issue like this when saving changes to Alerting Rules...?
[09-Jul-2008 15:38:44] <kso512> Type: ConflictError
[09-Jul-2008 15:38:48] <kso512> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x6e27, class Products.ZenEvents.ActionRule.ActionRule)
[09-Jul-2008 15:54:25] <imperfect-> So is the svn verion working on making he google maps thing suck less?
[09-Jul-2008 15:54:26] <imperfect->
[09-Jul-2008 16:52:25] <TBKdan> What does "Domain Authentication Helper" plugin in zope provide?
[09-Jul-2008 16:52:44] <TBKdan> I mean, what kind of domain? AD? o.O
[09-Jul-2008 17:18:51] <cdehaan> hello! I could use some help. I have a ZenOSS install, and I'm trying to monitor a windows machine. I modeled it, and I get this error during modeling: WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler skipping CRDEHAAN has bad wmi state
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:12] <kso512> cdehaan: You have to make sure you've set up WMI on the device properly. There should be a Zenoss FAQ page regarding checking that...
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:38] <cdehaan> hello again kso512!
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:48] <kso512> cdehaan: also check the devices configuration in Zenoss to make sure you have the right user trying to authenticate
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:49] <cdehaan> OK, I'll take a look -- I couldn't find anything through Google search.
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:53] <kso512>
[09-Jul-2008 17:22:22] <duncan_> hey guys, quick question... I have set several nodes production level to maintenance and we still get snmp agent down events when they are turned off... did I miss something?
[09-Jul-2008 17:24:33] <kso512> cdehaan: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#ZenwinMonitoringWindows
[09-Jul-2008 17:24:48] <adytum-bot^> Title: FAQ (English) - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:16] <cdehaan> kso512: When I run the query locally, it appears to be working fine, I get a whole list of services dumped out
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:18] <kso512> duncan_: Not sure
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:46] <kso512> cdehaan: can you connect from another windows machine? May be a firewall blocking it...
[09-Jul-2008 17:28:36] <cdehaan> Yup, works fine from a remote machine.
[09-Jul-2008 17:35:22] <cdehaan> is there a log somewhere in Zenoss that will tell me exactly why this is failing?
[09-Jul-2008 17:36:11] <cdehaan> I do see these in the zenwin log
[09-Jul-2008 17:36:11] <cdehaan> 2008-07-09 11:46:40 DEBUG zen.zenwin: WMI problems on CRDEHAAN: skipping
[09-Jul-2008 17:38:13] <kso512> cdehaan: I don't know any more than that... I'm still working on getting it to work right too
[09-Jul-2008 17:39:12] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Have you cleared the event for that device and then retried it?
[09-Jul-2008 17:39:52] <TBKdan> Anybody installed python-ldap on the VM App?
[09-Jul-2008 17:40:52] <cdehaan> TBKdan: I haven't... by "clear" do you mean acknowledge? or move to history? or both?
[09-Jul-2008 17:42:26] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Move to history. You will get that skipping due to WMI problems until you do so.
[09-Jul-2008 17:43:17] <cdehaan> TBKdan: Then remodel?
[09-Jul-2008 17:43:23] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Yup.
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:21] <cdehaan> Very nice.
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:27] <cdehaan> Thanks, TBKdan!
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:35] <TBKdan> Np
[09-Jul-2008 17:46:35] <cdehaan> Another question then... do I have to assign the same username/password to all of my /Devices/Server/Windows devices through the zProperties there, or is it equally as acceptable to assign it at the device level zProperties?
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:25] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Device level zProperties for Windows devices. That's normal and what I do
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:37] <cdehaan> Awesome.
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:43] <cdehaan> This is a great help, thanks again TBKdan.
[09-Jul-2008 17:48:56] <cdehaan> Oh, one final question -- the Win Services I assign to a device will remain through a remodel, right?
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:14] <TBKdan> Lock them from deletion cdehaan
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:22] <cdehaan> OK, great. Thanks again!
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:22] <TBKdan> Just for safe measure.
[09-Jul-2008 17:49:25] <TBKdan> np
[09-Jul-2008 17:50:08] <TBKdan> Grr... vm app + ldap/ad auth = royal PITA
[09-Jul-2008 17:54:30] <kso512> no doubt - sounds rough
[09-Jul-2008 17:55:29] <TBKdan> mainly because the only package management is conary, so there is no easy way to get other libs on here (such as openldap). No gcc so I can't compile it.
[09-Jul-2008 17:59:48] <magnachef> I tried bulk adding devices with REST using IP. For some reason it is not using the SNMP system name for it's name, and keeps the IP as it's Name and IP. If I add it through the Zenoss "Add Device" page, then it works fine, making the system name the name of the device. Any thoughts on why this is?
[09-Jul-2008 18:05:27] <kso512> tbkdan: I've found that vm appliances are ok for testing/evaluating, but when you want to go production it's better to roll your own...
[09-Jul-2008 18:06:28] <imperfect-> So.
[09-Jul-2008 18:06:41] <imperfect-> Is the svn google map portlet better than the 2.2.0 one?
[09-Jul-2008 18:26:18] <TBKdan> kso512: Yeah... kidna thinking about it right now, but it is nice.
[09-Jul-2008 18:26:26] <TBKdan> s/kidna/kinda
[09-Jul-2008 19:20:16] <cccharles> It looks like there is no easy way to enable HTTPS for the console... do I really have to compile M2Crypto as per http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12991 to get this working?
[09-Jul-2008 19:20:31] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Modifying Zenoss for SSL encryption (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2008 19:21:05] <TBKdan> Just a quick thought, mod_proxy with SSL?
[09-Jul-2008 19:22:24] <cccharles> TBKdan: there is no easy, official method?
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:02] <cccharles> to be honest, I'm a little bit shocked that there isn't an HTTPS checkbox somewhere, at the very least in the Enterprise version (which I'm running)
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:03] <TBKdan> cccharles: Dunno, I never tried nor looked. Was just throwing it out there.
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:13] <cccharles> TBKdan: OK, thanks.
[09-Jul-2008 19:23:39] <cccharles> is this channel just for users, or are there Zenoss employees in here too?
[09-Jul-2008 19:24:06] <TBKdan> I think there are some... not completely sure though.
[09-Jul-2008 19:24:33] <cccharles> cool :-).
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[09-Jul-2008 20:01:29] <cccharles> so... is anybody who works at Zenoss in here right now? I'd still like some insight into configuring an HTTPS console.
[09-Jul-2008 20:12:21] <magnachef> not usually...mrayzenoss works for zenoss, but I haven't seen him around here in quite some time
[09-Jul-2008 20:12:44] <magnachef> the forums are usually a better spot
[09-Jul-2008 20:20:36] <cccharles> magnachef: thanks.
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[10-Jul-2008 07:45:58] <rad73> Does anyone have any ideas on how to add a new tab to the device information page... that section in the developers guide is empty
[10-Jul-2008 07:49:58] <rad73> I'd also like to remove a tab from it too.... and it's not clear to me yet how the tab templates (e.g. deviceSoftwareDetail.pt) are hooked together
[10-Jul-2008 10:09:16] <SniZ|work> hi, i have zenoss server on linux. and i have many win2k3 server with snmp, but in ALL servers i get this - Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on dial-in.parfum-ultra.local (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)
[10-Jul-2008 11:49:55] <rad73> Does anyone have any ideas on how to add a new tab to the device information page... that section in the developers guide is empty
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[10-Jul-2008 13:22:15] <SniZ|work> hi, i have zenoss server on linux. and i have many win2k3 server with snmp, but in ALL servers i get this - Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on dial-in.parfum-ultra.local (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)
[10-Jul-2008 13:36:40] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: You either need to install SNMP informant or use WMI to get memory info
[10-Jul-2008 13:57:55] <stevengong> Hi all, anyone can tell me where I can find a complete doc describing the expressions in "Command Templates" under Templates, like ${here/mount
[10-Jul-2008 13:58:04] <stevengong> ${here/mount} in ${zCommandPath}/zenplugin.py disk ${here/mount}
[10-Jul-2008 16:03:59] <jb> shouldn't 2.2.1 be out soon?
[10-Jul-2008 16:06:22] <ckrough> Anyone dealt with Internap devices in zenoss?
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[10-Jul-2008 17:10:33] <jief-> hi. im running 2.2 on RHEL5.2. When setting a maintenance window for a device, we still get alerted when we do work on said maintenance. I go to my device, click on the down arrow then more then administration. I create my maintenance there, make sure its enabled obviously
[10-Jul-2008 17:10:39] <jief-> that's with core 2.2
[10-Jul-2008 17:10:44] <jief-> anyone else having issues?
[10-Jul-2008 17:11:07] <ckrough> does the alert rules specify that the device has to be in "Production"
[10-Jul-2008 17:11:43] <jief-> yes
[10-Jul-2008 17:11:49] <jief-> production state = production
[10-Jul-2008 17:19:07] <jief-> this is a serious issue ..
[10-Jul-2008 19:02:35] <jief-> hi. could it be possible if you use custom production states it would screw up maintenance windows?
[10-Jul-2008 19:11:30] <ckrough> just make sure the number values (500, etc...) are in line with what you are expecting. it all boils down to the numbers in the end
[10-Jul-2008 19:14:14] <jief-> we have right now production: 1000, infrastructure: 900, test: 800, development: 700, maintenance: 300, decomissioned: -1
[10-Jul-2008 19:14:40] <jief-> is there a minimal time required be zen to process it? if i set it 5minutes in advance is it too short?
[10-Jul-2008 19:21:13] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to make the logging messages not reflect the object as red?
[10-Jul-2008 19:44:54] <jief-> i think you need to give it zen a good delay when you set a maintenance window
[10-Jul-2008 19:45:06] <jief-> simply setting it 4-5 mins prior doesnt seem to do it
[10-Jul-2008 19:47:39] <ckrough> Im not sure what the lead time needs to be, but I havent had that issue
[10-Jul-2008 19:47:57] <ckrough> imperfect: as red? you mean in the event list? red is critical.
[10-Jul-2008 19:48:08] <ckrough> you could changes its level
[10-Jul-2008 19:49:56] <thinkmassive> I just discovered zenoss as a sourceforge awards nominee and I happen to be looking for a very similar tool for work.... does zenoss have software license tracking or is it entirely hardware/network?
[10-Jul-2008 19:51:57] <magnachef> just hardware/network
[10-Jul-2008 19:52:39] <thinkmassive> so far I've only been looking at nagios but this looks like a better supported tool
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:05] <magnachef> in terms of commercial support, yeah
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:06] <explody> thinkmassive: do you want monitoring or asset/inventory control?
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:35] <thinkmassive> I'm also evaluating IRM for asset management, and a lot of the asset management tools include network monitoring but not to the extent available from zenoss or nagios
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:49] <thinkmassive> I really need both, and if they could be in one application then all the better
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:53] <explody> thinkmassive: check out ocsinventory and GLPI
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:53] <jief-> nagios is more flexible in my opinion
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:58] <thinkmassive> I hope I'm not too off-topic, stop me if I am
[10-Jul-2008 19:53:59] <magnachef> we actually created an in-house CMDB and integrated it into Zenoss
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:06] <jief-> we picked zenoss because it had peformance builtin
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:08] <jief-> so we could remove cacti
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:22] * magnachef still likes Cacti for reporting better
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:22] <thinkmassive> yeah, I like the built-in performance aspect as well
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:27] * explody does too
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:52] <thinkmassive> magnachef: did you also create a front-end for your CMDB or is it soley a db?
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:52] <jief-> i think 2 years down the road zenoss will be better
[10-Jul-2008 19:54:59] <explody> zenoss' graphs are too spread out...cacti doesn't clutter stats viewing with all the other data about a device like zenoss
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:00] <jief-> at this time, i miss some flexibility we had with nagios
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:10] <explody> jief-: I said that 2 years ago
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:17] <jief-> heh
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:18] <magnachef> we integrated it under the hardware tab
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:32] <thinkmassive> my employer would prefer something that has the option of commercial support, and nagios seems a little less likely to offer that
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:38] <jief-> sadly, unless you pay the big bucks, OSS monitoring ain't that great
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:42] <magnachef> so when you click on a device, then on the hardware tab, it'll show you all the info from our CMDB
[10-Jul-2008 19:55:57] <jief-> thinkmassive: what about commercial solutions based on nagios then?
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:06] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/product/
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:09] <thinkmassive> magnachef: roughly how much work was require for that development?
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:15] <adytum-bot^> Title: Overview - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jul-2008 19:56:30] <magnachef> depends on how familiar you are with python/zope
[10-Jul-2008 19:59:03] <thinkmassive> heh probably not enough to justify choosing that over a ready-made solution
[10-Jul-2008 19:59:42] <jief-> if only you could use the nagios plugins in the OS tab instead of perf
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:17] <jief-> a simple TCP check is not enough, id like to be able to send SQL queries, LDAP binds, etc
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:35] <TBKdan> There are some ZenPacks for that kind of stuff
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:49] <jief-> i know
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:55] <jief-> but the packs don't replace the simple tcp check
[10-Jul-2008 20:00:56] <TBKdan> And man, found a bug in MS AD LDAP queries...
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:10] <TBKdan> It doesn't report back the user's primary group
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:12] <jief-> you just can't disable that. and it pollutes our logs
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:25] <magnachef> for inventory, also check out: http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org
[10-Jul-2008 20:01:33] <adytum-bot^> Title: OCS Inventory NG - Welcome to OCS Inventory NG web site ! (at www.ocsinventory-ng.org)
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:04] <imperfect-> I'm trying to figureout how to make it reclassify log messages that really aren't emergencies
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:08] <imperfect-> so I get proper status lights
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:30] <jief-> imperfect-: i think you can create different even types and associate them to a severity
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:33] <jief-> but i never bothered
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:39] <jief-> we have a Splunk system for syslog
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:41] <jief-> much better
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:42] <imperfect-> jief: all my stuff is always red or orange
[10-Jul-2008 20:02:52] <jief-> imperfect-: hire me, ill make it all green
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:00] <imperfect-> the google map thing is kinda broken
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:08] <imperfect-> ah
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:21] <jief-> Splunk is teh way to go for logs honestly
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:26] <imperfect-> eh
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:31] <imperfect-> i wasn't that impressed with spunk tbh
[10-Jul-2008 20:03:36] <jief-> every company should take lessons of UI design from these guys
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:04] <jief-> we index gigs of logs with it daily from 4 locations, its kinda neat
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:11] <jief-> backed by a SAN
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:36] <imperfect-> neato
[10-Jul-2008 20:04:56] <imperfect-> Hrm
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:01] <TBKdan> I've been tasked to try and figure out a way to have machines that are in a certain OU either a) automatically add themselves or b) zenoss poll the OU and add them. Autodiscovery just does a ping scan, so that's not really what we're looking for.
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:06] <imperfect-> I wonder if I should make my syslog server seperate?
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:12] <jief-> we also have several filters running, so we get alerted when people try to portscan us for example
[10-Jul-2008 20:05:53] <jief-> TBKdan: is it a logical OU or physical with a subnet?
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:08] <TBKdan> jief-: Logical through Active Directory.
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:10] <jief-> because if your OUs are split by subnet, then you can autoadd then with autodiscovery
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:15] <TBKdan> I wish it was
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:16] <jief-> ah
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:18] <TBKdan>
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:30] <TBKdan> This net is a mess, no organization
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:37] <imperfect-> Anyone know how hard it is to move a zenoss install?
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:43] <jief-> is it only windows?
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:49] <TBKdan> Everything (workstations, printers, etc) are all on an unsubnetted class B
[10-Jul-2008 20:06:59] <TBKdan> There are like 3 non-windows boxes
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:08] <jief-> imperfect-: not too bad, just did a test run of a restore from 2.1.2 on debian etch to 2.2 on RHEL5, went well
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:13] <jief-> TBKdan: sucks to be you hehe
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:16] <TBKdan> lol
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:24] <TBKdan> Thanks
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:26] <jief-> maybe in that case a windows-based solution would be better
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:27] <imperfect-> jief: I basically just want to take what I've done and move it to another box
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:37] <imperfect-> jief: do i backup the current config and restore it at another location?
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:38] <jief-> imperfect-: use zenbackup and zenrestore
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:55] <TBKdan> jief-: Zenoss definitely does what we need, especially at that price
[10-Jul-2008 20:07:57] <jief-> imperfect-: test it first though, before you wipe your old install hehe
[10-Jul-2008 20:08:21] <jief-> zen aint perfect, but if i can fix the maintenance windows issue we have, we'll be able to live with it
[10-Jul-2008 20:08:28] <imperfect-> See
[10-Jul-2008 20:08:42] <imperfect-> I'm frustrated with it because there are little things wrong all over.
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:01] <jief-> same here
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:15] <imperfect-> I mean the google maps things is bad ass
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:16] <imperfect-> cept
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:28] <imperfect-> it shows location ID 90 with the same status info as site ID 900
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:42] <imperfect-> if you zoom in, you lose the roll over information as to what site you're pointing at
[10-Jul-2008 20:09:53] <jief-> on 2.1.2, a minute is not 60 seconds, its 100
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:15] <jief-> so if i wanted to delay 5 minutes before being paged, instead of 300 secs, i had to put in 500
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:18] <jief-> and 1500 for 15 mins
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:25] <imperfect-> oh and it's slow!
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:26] <imperfect-> =)
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:42] <imperfect-> quad core 8 gig
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:45] <imperfect-> and im forever waiting
[10-Jul-2008 20:10:46] <jief-> can't run it in vmware, thats for sure
[10-Jul-2008 20:11:31] <TBKdan> Working fine for me in VM
[10-Jul-2008 20:11:53] <TBKdan> Monitoring like 10 boxes added, 50 discovered
[10-Jul-2008 20:12:55] <jief-> we monitor 150 devices with it so far
[10-Jul-2008 20:13:04] <jief-> and that's like 2/3 of our network
[10-Jul-2008 20:14:24] <imperfect-> Can I get it to store it's database elsewhere?
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:04] <jief-> sure
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:20] <imperfect-> LOL
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:24] <imperfect-> Cuz it's under Event Manager
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:27] <imperfect-> Settings would be too easy
[10-Jul-2008 20:15:43] <jief-> well, im done for the day, cya
[10-Jul-2008 20:17:53] <ckrough> jeif: whats your message/hour load on splunk?
[10-Jul-2008 20:20:15] <ckrough> imperfect: it's a disk i/o monster. lots of rrd writes. more ram helps by giving it more buffer but that gets exhausted with a large number of devices.
[10-Jul-2008 20:20:24] <ckrough> RAID 1+0 and lots of spindles help
[10-Jul-2008 20:21:09] <imperfect-> ckrough: Ah
[10-Jul-2008 20:21:20] <imperfect-> ckrough: You know if zenrestore works?
[10-Jul-2008 20:21:25] <ckrough> havent used it myself
[10-Jul-2008 20:22:16] * imperfect- watches zeoctl go dot dot dot dot dot dot dot
[10-Jul-2008 20:25:53] <TBKdan> dot dot dot
[10-Jul-2008 20:26:13] <TBKdan> Well, I've got auth against AD working perfectly now
[10-Jul-2008 20:26:26] <TBKdan> Now to try and figure something out that will pull devices from an AD group
[10-Jul-2008 20:27:53] <ckrough> python + python-ldap + http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.0/ch05s01.html
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:07] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:32] <imperfect-> well
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:39] <imperfect-> moivng it to a 8 core box seems to have improved things
[10-Jul-2008 20:28:43] <TBKdan> ckrough: Was hoping to find something already
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:06] <ckrough> how many devices are you running on how many servers
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:28] <imperfect-> Who me?
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:45] <ckrough> aye
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:51] <imperfect-> Hardly any
[10-Jul-2008 20:29:54] <imperfect-> < 50
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:04] <imperfect-> 38.
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:09] <imperfect-> I've got prolly 1k
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:13] <imperfect-> I'm just getting started
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:35] <ckrough> was just wondering since you mentioned 8 core
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:41] <TBKdan> that's all for today, later
[10-Jul-2008 20:30:48] <ckrough> bye
[10-Jul-2008 22:33:50] <daMaestro> anyone have a chance to look at http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425 ?
[10-Jul-2008 22:33:57] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[10-Jul-2008 23:37:00] <daMaestro> are there any later releases then 2.2.0?
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[11-Jul-2008 01:39:43] <crashdummyMCH1> has anyone gotten the core version to work in a completely distributed environment? including zendisc?
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[11-Jul-2008 07:29:43] <EekZ`> :>
[11-Jul-2008 07:30:53] <EekZ`> ppl... do u know the way to go if u want to use zenoss also for cmdb for desktops. u see, i dont want to monitor the desktops, i just want to know the os, cpu and ram they have...
[11-Jul-2008 08:37:33] <rad73> Anyone know why I get the following error when trying to remove a zenpack from zenoss 2.2.0?
[11-Jul-2008 08:38:30] <rad73> AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'
[11-Jul-2008 09:54:11] <EekZ`> well its easy to add devices, walk the snmp, and then disable ping monitor and snmp. now the desktops are in the cmdb without monitoring them.
[11-Jul-2008 09:54:49] <EekZ`> do u guys know if there is a MIB to get more detailed information about the type of memory in a windows xp desktop? i have the amount of memory but not the type .. :/
[11-Jul-2008 13:08:41] <TBKdan> Is there a way to add a machine via command line?
[11-Jul-2008 13:15:38] <TBKdan> nvm
[11-Jul-2008 13:41:05] <EekZ`> sure
[11-Jul-2008 13:41:07] <EekZ`> read the docu
[11-Jul-2008 13:41:08] <EekZ`>
[11-Jul-2008 14:42:36] <trkemist> hey everyone
[11-Jul-2008 14:43:52] <trkemist> anyone here experience any issues with the zenoss counters?
[11-Jul-2008 14:44:07] <trkemist> I am having an issue with /perf/snmp and i haven't been able to find any good information explaining why.
[11-Jul-2008 14:44:14] <magnachef> snmp counters?
[11-Jul-2008 14:46:13] <trkemist> yeah on a lot of my cisco devices I get tons of events that say that OID values are bad for certain ATM layer
[11-Jul-2008 14:46:42] <daMaestro> i have the issue where filesystems are being calculated incorrectly
[11-Jul-2008 14:47:03] <daMaestro> we have a couple of ~75TB mounts that report something like 2.3TB with 1.4TB free
[11-Jul-2008 14:47:21] <trkemist> yeah weird thing is i've gone into the Cisco website and i've downloaded all the ATM and Interface mibs.. I was just thinking maybe someone had run into the issue before
[11-Jul-2008 14:47:32] <daMaestro> i'm actually reprovisioning with 2.1.3 right now to see if it's just a 2.2.0 bug
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:01] <jb> the MIB's have nothing to do with device polling
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:32] <trkemist> jb - really
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:37] <jb> yep
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:45] <jb> can you snmpwalk that OID?
[11-Jul-2008 14:48:57] <trkemist> jb - check out this weirdo error: Error reading value for "ATM1/0.132-aal5 layer" on <:D> (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.17 is bad)
[11-Jul-2008 14:49:04] <jb> can you snmpwalk that OID?
[11-Jul-2008 14:50:46] <trkemist> jb - i am not familiar with walking the OID. I know how to walk it based on actual MIBS like system
[11-Jul-2008 14:51:01] <trkemist> is it: snmpwalk -v2 -c <community> <ipaddress> <oid> ?
[11-Jul-2008 14:51:12] <jb> yes
[11-Jul-2008 14:51:27] <TBKdan1> Well this is interesting.. I changed the hostname on my box, now zenoss does not respond at all. It is listening to and responding to my HTTP request, but solely with an ACK and nothing else.
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:13] <jb> check the forums..
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:36] <TBKdan1> Ah, found it
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:38] <magnachef> in terms of the filesystem, are you using a SAN?
[11-Jul-2008 14:52:43] <TBKdan1> /etc/hosts
[11-Jul-2008 14:53:07] <magnachef> i.e - NetApp, etc
[11-Jul-2008 14:57:44] <trkemist> jb - by the way I also found that snmpwalk installed with the zenoss stack if you run it from the command line it gives you an error in terms of libsnmp not found. I am using YUM to install net-snmp now
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:01] <daMaestro> trkemist, did you use the rpm?
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:23] <trkemist> daMaestro - I used the stack installer for CentOS from the community link off of zenoss
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:25] <trkemist> I think it was a bin?
[11-Jul-2008 15:00:42] <daMaestro> yeah, yuck.
[11-Jul-2008 15:01:01] <daMaestro> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/
[11-Jul-2008 15:01:11] <daMaestro> use the distro provided packages when there are ones
[11-Jul-2008 15:01:15] <adytum-bot^> Title: Install on EL5 - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:13] <daMaestro> and *really* the rpm should Require: those packages
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:20] <daMaestro> i've yet to download the srpm and send off a patch
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:22] <trkemist> I tried
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:24] <daMaestro> so i can't complain too much
[11-Jul-2008 15:02:49] <trkemist> The guide is not complete
[11-Jul-2008 15:03:39] <daMaestro> well.... it is
[11-Jul-2008 15:03:51] <daMaestro> it's just the packages are flaky
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:08] <trkemist> the zenoss rpm does not install any username and password but it expects on in the database when in stall it
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:19] <trkemist> the guide should tell you what is the username and passowrd zenoss is expecting
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:21] <daMaestro> it has to be blank
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:34] <daMaestro> the guide assumes a fresh install of mysql-server from upstream
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:38] <trkemist> i followed it to the letter on a blank CentOS 5.2 installation and it blew up
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:42] <daMaestro> which has a username of root with no password
[11-Jul-2008 15:04:56] <trkemist> root with no password?
[11-Jul-2008 15:05:00] <trkemist> thats pretty crazy
[11-Jul-2008 15:05:23] <daMaestro> i just provisioned a 5.2 x86_64 build.
[11-Jul-2008 15:05:38] <daMaestro> i'll show you once zenoss is done destroying the host
[11-Jul-2008 15:06:19] <daMaestro> though, i am now installing zenoss 2.1.3, so ignore that
[11-Jul-2008 15:06:34] <daMaestro> we have hit bugs in 2.2.0 that i really don't feel like fixing right now
[11-Jul-2008 15:07:43] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3463
[11-Jul-2008 15:07:52] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3463 (at fpaste.org)
[11-Jul-2008 15:08:06] <daMaestro> this is from a fresh build using cobbler and centos 5.2 as the base and the centos 5.2 updates repo installed.
[11-Jul-2008 15:09:19] <daMaestro> the first bug that annoyed me with 2.2.0 was that it complained that localhost and localhost.localdomain point at the same location and was alerting
[11-Jul-2008 15:10:05] <daMaestro> the next few... well... some TALES expression is incorrect (which might be the same reason for the next bug, or rather a symptom) so the perf view b0rks and then our FS sizes are wrong
[11-Jul-2008 15:10:43] <daMaestro> btw, rm -rf /opt/zenoss* /var/lib/mysql/* if you are going to try that paste on and already installed system
[11-Jul-2008 15:10:52] <daMaestro> aka.. start from scratch with zenoss and mysql
[11-Jul-2008 15:11:01] <trkemist> damaestro - are you thinking that I should reinstall my CentOS 5.2 installation to get this working correctly?
[11-Jul-2008 15:11:44] <daMaestro> is it virtual? is it a PITA?
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:01] <daMaestro> it takes me 7 minutes to run an install (http://cobbler.et.redhat.com ;-))
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:08] <adytum-bot^> Title: Cobbler: Provisioning Made Simple (at cobbler.et.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:28] <daMaestro> trkemist, can you trash your mysql and zenoss install?
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:39] <trkemist> at this point I can
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:40] <daMaestro> the os itself should be fine
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:49] <trkemist> it only has 5 devices in it and I"m getting ready to load about 300
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:53] <daMaestro> oh, wait.. you used the stack
[11-Jul-2008 15:12:57] <daMaestro> yeah, i'd reprovision
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:07] <trkemist> cobbler?
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:09] <daMaestro> yuck @300 load
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:11] <trkemist> What is cobbler?
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:16] <daMaestro> cobbler == hot shit
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:17] <daMaestro> lol
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:20] <trkemist> really?
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:38] <trkemist> we are looking at purchasing Opsware Server Automation, but in the meantime this may be good
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:45] <daMaestro> yuck
[11-Jul-2008 15:13:56] <trkemist> does it come with Redhat EL5 or can we download it
[11-Jul-2008 15:14:11] <daMaestro> cobbler + spacewalk + puppet + func == awesomeness
[11-Jul-2008 15:14:41] * magnachef seconds puppet
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:09] <daMaestro> magnachef, have you seen http://cft.et.redhat.com/ ?
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:17] <adytum-bot^> Title: Cft -- configuration file tracking. (at cft.et.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:30] <magnachef> yeah, haven't used it though
[11-Jul-2008 15:15:51] <daMaestro> trkemist, https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ https://fedorahosted.org/func http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/ http://cft.et.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:00] <daMaestro> anyways.. that is off /topic here
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:01] <daMaestro> sorry.
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:18] <magnachef> eh, kind of...not totally off topic though
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:22] <adytum-bot^> Title: cobbler - Trac (at fedorahosted.org)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:24] <adytum-bot^> Title: func - Trac (at fedorahosted.org)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:25] <adytum-bot^> Title: Index (at reductivelabs.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:26] <adytum-bot^> Title: Cft -- configuration file tracking. (at cft.et.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:16:27] <adytum-bot^> Title: Spacewalk: Free & Open Source Linux Systems Management (at www.redhat.com)
[11-Jul-2008 15:29:54] <daMaestro> well.. 2.1.3 properly displays our filessystem sizes
[11-Jul-2008 15:37:00] <daMaestro> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[11-Jul-2008 15:37:06] <daMaestro> 2.1.3 has that "bug" also
[11-Jul-2008 15:37:09] <daMaestro> annoying
[11-Jul-2008 15:42:29] <daMaestro> so, we can use zenoss as a central syslogd server?
[11-Jul-2008 15:42:47] <magnachef> yeah
[11-Jul-2008 15:42:55] <magnachef> I believe so
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:24] <daMaestro> cool
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:42] <daMaestro> trkemist, just a heads up ... i've had issues with 2.2.0 ... 2.1.3 is working nicely
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:49] <daMaestro> at least, i'm not seeing the nasty bugs from 2.2.0
[11-Jul-2008 15:47:57] <trkemist> trk- thanks!
[11-Jul-2008 15:49:49] <TBKdan1> Quick look at cobbler seems pretty nice o.O
[11-Jul-2008 15:49:59] <TBKdan1> May have to set up a VM to try that
[11-Jul-2008 16:40:47] <kso512> damaestro: what issues were you having with 2.2.0?
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:30] <daMaestro> kso512, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:37] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:39] <daMaestro> kso512, and the filesystem sizes are being reported incorrectly
[11-Jul-2008 17:02:51] <daMaestro> aka.. our 64TB FS is reporting something like 4TB
[11-Jul-2008 17:30:41] <magnachef> I have an issue with that on our NetApp servers
[11-Jul-2008 17:31:30] <magnachef> are you using NetApp?
[11-Jul-2008 17:34:00] <magnachef> check out this thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6301
[11-Jul-2008 17:34:15] <magnachef> probably has to do with not using 64 bit counters
[11-Jul-2008 17:34:16] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - NetApp fix for large volumes (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2008 17:48:22] <daMaestro> magnachef, not using a netapp no
[11-Jul-2008 17:48:41] <daMaestro> magnachef, we use ibrix
[11-Jul-2008 17:48:43] <daMaestro> ;-)
[11-Jul-2008 17:51:53] <magnachef> gotcha...well, I think the issue is the same - using 32 bit counters for that data
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:08] <trkemist> are the zenoss folks going to be looking at better ways to calculate layer2 or layer3 monitoring?
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:20] <kso512> damaestro: ah, thanks
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:28] <magnachef> I think there was a bug, and a fix for it
[11-Jul-2008 18:00:52] <magnachef> I remember seeing something in zenoss-dev forum about that
[11-Jul-2008 18:04:11] <daMaestro> ok.. i'm at the point where i need to add MIBs to a device
[11-Jul-2008 18:04:16] <daMaestro> how do i go about doing that?
[11-Jul-2008 18:04:21] <daMaestro> (the MIBs are installed)
[11-Jul-2008 18:05:50] <magnachef> you mean adding mibs to your SAN, or adding mibs to Zenoss so that it can translate OIDs that are sent from devices?
[11-Jul-2008 18:06:17] <daMaestro> the latter
[11-Jul-2008 18:06:55] <daMaestro> do i have to create a zenpack or something?
[11-Jul-2008 18:07:24] <magnachef> oh, it's pretty easy you can use zenmib
[11-Jul-2008 18:07:48] <magnachef> which takes the mib file and adds it to zenoss
[11-Jul-2008 18:08:23] <daMaestro> yeah, that is already done
[11-Jul-2008 18:08:27] <daMaestro> how do i apply them to a device
[11-Jul-2008 18:09:45] <magnachef> you need to go to /Devices/Server (or whatever class) then click on the templates tab
[11-Jul-2008 18:10:57] <daMaestro> ah, so i do need to create a template?
[11-Jul-2008 18:11:49] <magnachef> then you can modify a Performance template or copy or create a new one
[11-Jul-2008 18:13:26] <daMaestro> gah, so i can't just say "take this MIB and apply it to this device"?
[11-Jul-2008 18:13:38] <daMaestro> or even "take these MIBs and create a template"?
[11-Jul-2008 18:14:36] <magnachef> you need to setup subclasses and put the devices in that class
[11-Jul-2008 18:14:53] <daMaestro> ok, but i still need to manually create a template?
[11-Jul-2008 18:15:20] <magnachef> yeah, or you can select teh checkbox of one, and create a copy of it under another subclass
[11-Jul-2008 18:15:27] <magnachef> if you want to modify something
[11-Jul-2008 18:15:33] <magnachef> but yeah, you need to manually do it
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:00] <magnachef> and there you set the data sources, thresholds, graph definitions, etc
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:08] <daMaestro> yeah, blah
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:16] <magnachef> look at the ethernetCsmacd template
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:17] <daMaestro> manually == invest too much time
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:40] <magnachef> heh, well, you don't need to do it for each device, just when setting up the class...but yeah, I get what you're saying
[11-Jul-2008 18:16:52] <magnachef> there's a bunch by default
[11-Jul-2008 18:17:18] <magnachef> but...if there is a Zenpack for that device type, then it will automatically create the device class with the template all set
[11-Jul-2008 18:19:43] <daMaestro> it looks like i really need to be using nothing but zenpacks
[11-Jul-2008 18:19:52] <daMaestro> as i am able to add MIBs to zenpacks with ease
[11-Jul-2008 18:19:54] <magnachef> that's the ideal way
[11-Jul-2008 18:50:48] <daMaestro> is zenoss spending any time lobbing companies to develop/define zenpacks?
[11-Jul-2008 18:51:38] <magnachef> doubtful...they build their own for the Enterprise version
[11-Jul-2008 18:51:49] <magnachef> and rely on the community for the Core version
[11-Jul-2008 18:52:11] <magnachef> ...although they do include some Zenoss built zenpacks into the core distro
[11-Jul-2008 19:13:19] <TBKdan1> What exactly does zenoss use mysql for?
[11-Jul-2008 19:14:53] <TBKdan1> events?
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:04] <magnachef> yep
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:12] <magnachef> I believe that's it
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:15] <TBKdan1> Ok, is the mysql user pass configurable?
[11-Jul-2008 19:16:33] <magnachef> yeah, I believe so
[11-Jul-2008 19:17:01] <TBKdan1> Any ideas where? o.O
[11-Jul-2008 19:17:16] <magnachef> not sure...there's probably something on the wiki or on the forums
[11-Jul-2008 19:17:58] <TBKdan1> Looking around
[11-Jul-2008 19:36:54] <kso512> TBKdan1: on the left bar at the bottom is Event Manager. click on that and you can configure the mysql user
[11-Jul-2008 19:37:38] <kso512> (at least on 2.2)
[11-Jul-2008 19:38:01] <kso512> (oh, and 2.1.3)
[11-Jul-2008 19:40:33] <TBKdan1> Ah, thanks kso512
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[11-Jul-2008 20:01:40] <TBKdan1> Wow, I tried to burn a CD on my laptop, locked the laptop up AND the windows machines on the local switch here. o.O
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[12-Jul-2008 16:20:08] <gentooer> hello
[12-Jul-2008 16:20:21] <gentooer> is there any irc chan for networking community in freenode ?
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[13-Jul-2008 10:49:30] <lacin> hi,
[13-Jul-2008 10:50:24] <lacin> I installed new ZenPack (Windows WMI) and now I can't get Perf graphs! Any experience?
[13-Jul-2008 11:11:18] <lacin> is it possible to use Zenpackof el5 in debian?
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[14-Jul-2008 09:46:27] <mf2ng> bleh, removing zenpack seems bit of too hard...
[14-Jul-2008 09:46:34] <mf2ng> TypeError: remove() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)
[14-Jul-2008 10:49:39] <rad73> anyone have any experience adding tabs to the device view... I've managed to modify the factory_type_information from a zenpack to remove and add the tabs
[14-Jul-2008 10:50:00] <rad73> but when I click on the new tab (I've already created the .pt file for the new tab) I get a zenoss error with resource not found....
[14-Jul-2008 10:50:13] <rad73> seems there needs to be a way to register the template or something
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[14-Jul-2008 12:39:47] <Johnny5> Hello all!
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[14-Jul-2008 12:59:18] <chicago312> anyone here that can check, http://update.zenoss.com/conaryrc: Service unavailable
[14-Jul-2008 14:45:38] <TBKdan> Swweeeettt.. add machines in AD via group policy
[14-Jul-2008 15:08:53] <TBKdan> When Zenoss is installed via RPM, does it just generate a random password for the zenoss user?
[14-Jul-2008 15:14:46] <nemo_> you been hanging here for what 1 or 2 months ?
[14-Jul-2008 15:15:05] <nemo_> about time you read the docs instead of troubling everyone to solve things for you ?
[14-Jul-2008 15:33:23] <TBKdan> If someone knows it, a simple yes/no is all it takes..
[14-Jul-2008 15:33:36] <TBKdan> And no, less than a month.
[14-Jul-2008 15:34:29] <TBKdan> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ Very informative... doesn't mention anything about the Zenoss user.
[14-Jul-2008 15:34:44] <adytum-bot^> Title: Install on EL5 - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Jul-2008 15:35:22] <TBKdan> Sorry, perhaps my question was not clear. The zenoss system user, not web user
[14-Jul-2008 15:35:35] <TBKdan> As in, what the daemon runs as.
[14-Jul-2008 15:48:02] <nemo_> i let you RTFM regardless , and yes i know the answer, but guess what , i read the manual too
[14-Jul-2008 15:52:10] <TBKdan> So you've found what it sets the system user pass to with the RPM? I see tons of docs on the web user pass, but not the system user pass. If I had found it, then I wouldn't have asked.
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[14-Jul-2008 15:57:48] <nemo_> admin zenoss
[14-Jul-2008 15:57:59] <nemo_> have a nice day
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:02] <TBKdan> that is the web admin pass
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:09] <TBKdan> Not the system user (as in the linux user the daemon runs as)
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:32] <nemo_> so read up about it
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:37] <nemo_> later gator
[14-Jul-2008 15:58:40] <TBKdan> There is no documentation
[14-Jul-2008 16:02:44] <vitech> if you use terminal you can su into zenoss from root
[14-Jul-2008 16:04:22] <TBKdan> vitech: Yeah, but I'm planning on locking down root from ssh. I guess at this point just reset the pass since it's not documented (was also just curious a bit).
[14-Jul-2008 16:05:12] <vitech> ah i got you
[14-Jul-2008 16:41:03] <chicago312> anyone know what is wrong with http://update.zenoss.com/conaryrc: Service unavailable
[14-Jul-2008 16:42:53] <TBKdan> chicago312: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6646 You're not the only one. Dunno what happened.
[14-Jul-2008 16:43:09] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - conary update down ? (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Jul-2008 16:47:52] <chicago312> that is me
[14-Jul-2008 16:48:20] <TBKdan> Is it possible to change the default Network Map network. I have modified Products/ZenWidgets/skins/zenui/flex/ZenNetMap.mxml but the changes never show (actually, when I try to use a browser that has never seen it so it can't have it cached, it flat out doesn't load the swf).
[14-Jul-2008 16:52:59] <TBKdan> I found the option in the user's preference, but I'd like to make it the default for all users too.
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[14-Jul-2008 18:34:53] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "lo" on linux_server.example.tld (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.1 is bad)
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:04] <daMaestro> is it a known issue with loop interfaces?
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:10] <daMaestro> zenoss core 2.1.3
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:28] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifInErrors" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14 is bad)
[14-Jul-2008 18:35:29] <daMaestro> etc.
[14-Jul-2008 19:07:15] <TBKdan> daMaestro: Could be completely unrelated, but I just removed VMWare server from one of my machines which in turn removed two virtual network devices off the machine. The result was some errors similar to what you just posted. Perhaps make sure snmp is actually reporting stats for the lo device?
[14-Jul-2008 19:12:37] <daMaestro> TBKdan, it's very possible it's not
[14-Jul-2008 19:24:31] <daMaestro> is there any way to set a zoom level for the maps?
[14-Jul-2008 19:25:00] <daMaestro> basically, we have a "nar" location (north america region)
[14-Jul-2008 19:25:08] <daMaestro> and i'd like the dashboard to show just the IS
[14-Jul-2008 19:25:10] <daMaestro> US*
[14-Jul-2008 19:26:34] <daMaestro> ah, i can set base location
[14-Jul-2008 19:26:35] <daMaestro> good.
[14-Jul-2008 19:48:28] <mrayzenoss> anyone interested in me trying to get some official developer time on IRC?
[14-Jul-2008 19:48:41] <magnachef> I think that'd be a good thing
[14-Jul-2008 19:48:57] <magnachef> regularly schedule time slots for developers to be on the channel
[14-Jul-2008 19:49:08] <mrayzenoss> I'm shooting for an hour, probably 11am EST
[14-Jul-2008 19:49:18] <mrayzenoss> working on the schedule for a day
[14-Jul-2008 19:50:23] <mrayzenoss> I'll be sure to announce it here, the blog and the forums in advance
[14-Jul-2008 19:51:06] <mrayzenoss> I figure 11am EST lets Europe and the US west coast attend (sorry Asia)
[14-Jul-2008 19:52:45] <TBKdan> Sounds good to me
[14-Jul-2008 20:19:16] <mrayzenoss> ok, looks like Tuesday of next week, I'll have announcements
[14-Jul-2008 20:41:10] <MajereDB8> hi, i had a quick question about alert e-mails in zenoss... i'd like to send out an alert e-mail that includes one of the fields generated by an snmp trap and listed under the "details" tab... is there any documentation as to how i could do that? i can see how to paste something from the event fields (e.g. evid, device, etc) but not so much for the event details
[14-Jul-2008 21:25:24] <MajereDB8> nevermind, i rtfm.
[14-Jul-2008 21:52:00] <MajereDB8> hi, if anyone is around, i'm trying to utilize the zenmail script, but i'm unsure as to how to call it from within zenoss. any suggestions about where i could look for instruction would be very helpful. thanks!
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[15-Jul-2008 01:15:07] <MajereDB8> hi, does anyone here have any experience using zenpop3?
[15-Jul-2008 03:17:31] <teferi1> Hello everyone. Sorry to bother, but I've got a question about zenoss graphing tool. Is it bound to RRDtools only?
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[15-Jul-2008 06:06:49] <Ozux> I want to cionfig zenos to show (read-only) every thing without authentication, we need this for our Internal network that every one is trusted and there is no route to external.
[15-Jul-2008 06:06:58] <Ozux> s/coinfig/config
[15-Jul-2008 08:08:30] <rad73> I've created a snmp collector plugin in an eggpack but when I add it to the zCollectorPlugins property for a device I get an error that the new plugin can't be found when I run the zenmodeler
[15-Jul-2008 08:08:44] <rad73> anyone know anything about how the modeler loads the collector plugins?
[15-Jul-2008 13:37:06] <cccharles> Does anybody here use Zenoss with SNMP v3?
[15-Jul-2008 13:40:44] <rad73> cccharles yes
[15-Jul-2008 13:41:24] <rad73> Does anyone know if there is any documentation describing how the plugin collectors map the data back onto a device?
[15-Jul-2008 13:42:05] <rad73> I can see the data getting pulled in through my snmp collector plugin but I can't seem to find where it puts it within the device
[15-Jul-2008 13:42:49] <cccharles> rad73: where do you set the user name? I can find settings for the authpassword, privpassword, snmp version etc., but no user name
[15-Jul-2008 13:43:08] <cccharles> (the docs aren't terribly helpful with this...)
[15-Jul-2008 13:43:51] <rad73> I presume you're looking at the zProperties for the device then
[15-Jul-2008 13:44:01] <rad73> the username is there.... just labelled funny.... let me find it
[15-Jul-2008 13:44:44] <cccharles> the zProperties for the class, actually... I can't get the device added.
[15-Jul-2008 13:44:54] <rad73> cccharles it's: zSnmpSecurityName
[15-Jul-2008 13:45:39] <rad73> and zSnmpAuthPassword for the password
[15-Jul-2008 13:45:51] <rad73> zSnmpAuthType for the hashing method
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:09] <rad73> and zSnmpVer to set v 3
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:18] <cccharles> hrm...
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:29] <cccharles> rad73: thanks, but I've tried that already.
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:46] <rad73> it worked for me.... do u use encryption too?
[15-Jul-2008 13:46:51] <cccharles> yes.
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:03] <rad73> I've not tried it with encryption
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:13] <cccharles> I can snmpget from the command-line
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:16] <cccharles> OK, thanks.
[15-Jul-2008 13:47:41] <cccharles> It looks like it *should* work--it has zSnmpPrivPassword and zSnmpPrivType...
[15-Jul-2008 13:48:24] <cccharles> you didn't have to change any of the v1/2 settings, did you? like the communities and stuff?
[15-Jul-2008 13:48:55] <rad73> where have you set the zProperties?
[15-Jul-2008 13:48:59] <rad73> I set them on /Devices
[15-Jul-2008 13:49:37] <rad73> cccharles well I set the snmp community strings
[15-Jul-2008 13:49:39] <cccharles> I tried that, then reset them to the defaults and set them on /Devices/Server/Linux, which is what I'm currently trying to add
[15-Jul-2008 13:49:57] <rad73> are you manually adding the devices or using discovery?
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:09] <cccharles> to what? I don't think SNMP v3 uses community strings anymore.
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:13] <cccharles> manual.
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:36] <rad73> I just set them to public/private
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:44] <rad73> dunno if they're used or not
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:50] <rad73> I added my devices manually
[15-Jul-2008 13:50:59] <rad73> but my zProperties are on /Devices
[15-Jul-2008 13:51:29] <cccharles> OK, thanks.
[15-Jul-2008 13:51:40] <cccharles> maybe I'll try disabling encryption and seeing if that works at least.
[15-Jul-2008 13:52:47] <rad73> sounds like a good plan, I always try and get things working at the most basic level first
[15-Jul-2008 13:53:14] <cccharles> so do I, but I got snmpget working on the command-line, so I figured I was all set :-)
[15-Jul-2008 13:54:01] <rad73> I've spent quite a few days trying to get zenoss to do what I want.... and still working on it
[15-Jul-2008 13:54:19] <cccharles> that's usually how it goes
[15-Jul-2008 13:55:22] <cccharles> you don't happen to know which of the logs might have better detailed error messages than "snmp not found on ip a.b.c.d", do you?
[15-Jul-2008 13:55:26] <cccharles> there are tons of them
[15-Jul-2008 14:00:59] <cccharles> ah... event.log
[15-Jul-2008 14:01:08] <cccharles> it helps if you grep for the IP address, and not the host name :-)
[15-Jul-2008 14:02:05] <cccharles> and apparently the error messages there are no better.
[15-Jul-2008 14:04:43] <rad73> lol ur learning fast cccharles
[15-Jul-2008 14:05:17] <rad73> sadly it seems I've had an equally informative selection of different problems
[15-Jul-2008 14:07:15] <cccharles> I'd help if I could :-)
[15-Jul-2008 14:07:31] <cccharles> you haven't got the web GUI working over SSL (HTTPS), have you?
[15-Jul-2008 14:08:06] <cccharles> it looks like you need to compile Zope yourself, which is a little crazy.
[15-Jul-2008 14:08:37] <cccharles> (especially since we paid for an "Enterprise" product... HTTPS should be a checkbox away, or even a modified config file)
[15-Jul-2008 14:27:07] <jamesc> I'd like to have a "plan B" for alerting me in the event that email isn't working. Paging isn't an option mainly because hardly anyone in the UK still supplies pagers, let alone SNPP support. So I'd instead like to find some alternate path to get an SMS out. Right now I'm looking at a FoxBox SMS device but to use that I'd need to call an arbitary script in ZenOSS as part of the alerting process.
[15-Jul-2008 14:28:04] <jamesc> Is such a thing possible in ZenOSS as it stands right now or would I need to make it a feature request?
[15-Jul-2008 14:33:51] <cccharles> jamesc: I'm a newbie, but I suspect that a ZenPack (basically a plugin) could do that... I'm not sure how to make one, though, or if one exists already
[15-Jul-2008 14:47:40] <jamesc> looking at it, I think I could do it as an event command - set up an event command which triggers the "send SMS through the device" where severity = critical.
[15-Jul-2008 14:50:11] <Quadro> i just wrote my own script, which works exactly like SNPP command for Zenoss, but does SMPP instead
[15-Jul-2008 14:50:57] <Quadro> and so, seamlessly have upgraded to SMS
[15-Jul-2008 15:00:00] <jamesc> quadro: would that require specific support from your mobile phone provider?
[15-Jul-2008 15:00:39] <jamesc> and surely it breaks if your border router fails for whatever reason?
[15-Jul-2008 15:29:15] <twm1010> Is anyone monitoring an OSX 10.3 host w/Zenoss?
[15-Jul-2008 15:34:57] <twm1010> Anyone?
[15-Jul-2008 15:36:24] <magnachef> not I
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:05] <magnachef> I'm assuming you can get net-snmp on it
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:16] <magnachef> or however else you would monitor a BSD server
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:23] <twm1010> well it comes with it
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:33] <twm1010> but on 10.3 it doesn't appear that the UCD module for memory monitoring is loaded
[15-Jul-2008 15:37:52] <twm1010> looks like i'll have to update the net-snmp package on the boxes... giving that a whirl, but what a pain in the butt
[15-Jul-2008 15:38:00] <magnachef> ahh, ok. See about comiling it yourself, or find someone who has compiled it with those flags
[15-Jul-2008 15:38:24] <twm1010> indeed... about to do so on a test box.
[15-Jul-2008 15:38:32] <magnachef> yeah...I'm sure someone, somewhere on the intertubes has a good snmp version with the proper flags
[15-Jul-2008 15:41:35] <twm1010> I could just copy the version from a 10.4 box...
[15-Jul-2008 15:41:40] <twm1010> hoping that won't crash
[15-Jul-2008 15:41:58] <magnachef> I'd be worried about that :-)
[15-Jul-2008 15:42:34] <twm1010> its a test box, what do i care?
[15-Jul-2008 15:56:45] <twm1010> bahh missing files everywhere :|
[15-Jul-2008 16:00:49] <twm1010> i can't compile it either, too many dependencies missing
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:04] <twm1010> i'd need to install the developer tools on each mac... maybe the MRTG plug-in will be easier
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:13] <magnachef> yeah, a good amount of differences with 10.3 and 10.4
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:31] <magnachef> you could have zenoss monitor via ssh
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:33] <magnachef> and not snmp
[15-Jul-2008 16:01:47] <twm1010> hrmm... thats a thought, I've never done that method before.
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:07] <twm1010> then do a command datasource, i imagine?
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:17] <magnachef> yeah
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:25] <magnachef> I've never done ssh monitoring
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:31] <magnachef> but sounds like a good situation for it
[15-Jul-2008 16:02:47] <twm1010> i'd need to install the zenoss-plugins package, if i remember
[15-Jul-2008 16:33:55] <daMaestro> how do we put a device into maintenance mode?
[15-Jul-2008 16:33:55] <daMaestro> aka.. scheduled downtime
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:15] <twm1010> just one device?
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:17] <twm1010> or a group?
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:25] <daMaestro> ah, i see.. maintenance window
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:37] <daMaestro> how about just a button i can say "yeah yeah, i'm rebuilding this server"?
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:39] <twm1010> you can do maintenance windows all over the place, it can get confusing if they overlap
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:43] <daMaestro> yeah
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:51] <daMaestro> it's for a set of devices in a group
[15-Jul-2008 16:34:55] <twm1010> then edit the server on the far right tab, can't rmember the name and change the production state
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:00] <daMaestro> but the whole group is not down
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:25] <twm1010> Then make a second group
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:30] <daMaestro> ah, production state to Maintenance?
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:34] <twm1010> right
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:37] <twm1010> play with it.
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:44] <daMaestro> well.. it's in the proper group.. i'm just rebuilding them
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:48] <daMaestro> cobbler++
[15-Jul-2008 16:35:53] <daMaestro> cobbler++ # making my life easier
[15-Jul-2008 16:36:32] <daMaestro> production state -> maintenance was what i'm looking for i think
[15-Jul-2008 16:36:37] <daMaestro> twm1010, does that stop all alerts?
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:14] <twm1010> That would depend on your alerting criteria
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:21] <twm1010> mine only sends when production state = production
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:27] * daMaestro goes to look
[15-Jul-2008 16:37:32] <daMaestro> i think that is what i have it set to
[15-Jul-2008 16:39:00] <daMaestro> yup, cool
[15-Jul-2008 16:56:38] <gbkyle> hey guys, how do i turn off autodiscovery of specific networks? lets say 192.168.4.x and 192.168.7.x.. but I want the rest being discovered
[15-Jul-2008 16:59:46] <gbkyle> I mean will just deleting the network out of the network lists do it?
[15-Jul-2008 16:59:54] <gbkyle> or will the collector readd it
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:19] <twm1010> go to each of those subnetworks
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:22] <twm1010> choose zProperties
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:28] <twm1010> change zAutoDiscover to false
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:43] <gbkyle> thank you
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:44] <twm1010>
[15-Jul-2008 17:00:45] <gbkyle> appreciate it
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:32] <gbkyle> twm1010: It seems as though if check that specific subnet, and change its properties
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:36] <gbkyle> the change reflects all subnet's
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:52] <twm1010> Hrmmm...
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:53] <gbkyle> I checked off one, changed it to false, and all the other were false as well.
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:54] <twm1010> one sec
[15-Jul-2008 17:02:56] <gbkyle> Ok.
[15-Jul-2008 17:04:23] <twm1010> works for me, remember zProperties flow downward
[15-Jul-2008 17:04:36] <twm1010> did you perhaps set this on /Network instead of /Network/Yoursubnetgoeshere ?
[15-Jul-2008 17:06:07] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question... i'm trying to use zenpop3 as a daemon in order to convert e-mail responses into events, which i'd like to use in order to acknowledge e-mail alerts. i've got zenpop3 to log into my e-mail account and parse the mail, but it's not generating an event. could someone point me in the right direction?
[15-Jul-2008 17:06:33] <gbkyle> Weird, I guess it took a little bit to reflect the changes.. think its working now
[15-Jul-2008 17:06:48] <MajereDB8> basically i've generated a zenpop configuration file listing my e-mail address/pass/etc and have run zenpop3 start from the shell
[15-Jul-2008 17:11:24] <twm1010> Majere: i'd hit the forum with that question
[15-Jul-2008 17:12:32] <MajereDB8> twm1010: will do, just thought i'd try here while i was on. thanks.
[15-Jul-2008 17:54:39] <gbkyle> Deleting a device gives me an error : AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'deleteDevice'
[15-Jul-2008 17:54:47] <gbkyle> anyone else get this lol
[15-Jul-2008 17:59:29] <gbkyle> seen it on the forums as well, no resolutions yet i guess
[15-Jul-2008 18:14:16] <MAHerron> hello all
[15-Jul-2008 18:14:34] <MAHerron> is there a way to do an SNMP GET from the transform?
[15-Jul-2008 18:31:07] <MAHerron> anyone awake?
[15-Jul-2008 18:40:22] <MAHerron> anyone paying attention to this channel?
[15-Jul-2008 19:38:12] <MAHerron> anyone listening?
[15-Jul-2008 19:38:20] <MAHerron> s there a way to do an SNMP GET from the transform??
[15-Jul-2008 19:59:52] <TBKdan> I listen from time to time o.O
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[15-Jul-2008 23:12:25] <otakup0pe> :v so quick question.... any reason uptime would show as unknown on a linux box
[15-Jul-2008 23:17:41] <boingolov> I apologize if this is a really dumb question, but I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction anyway. I am using net-snmp snmpd on a solaris 10 box with sparc III processors in it. I'm running zenoss and have added the "device" (sun box) and it now correctly recognizes most of the important aspects of the system, including file systems, loads etc. one slight annoyance is that it doesn't recognize what type of CPU is in the machine
[15-Jul-2008 23:18:28] <boingolov> not that this is a deal breaker by any stretch, but for instance I can see all the CPU's listed in our x86 machines and it would be nice to be able to tell what type/ how many cpu's are in our sparc based machines as well
[15-Jul-2008 23:18:41] <boingolov> is this a shortcoming of net-snmpd ? or is this something on the zenoss end?
[15-Jul-2008 23:20:16] <boingolov> I'm quite new to snmp in general, so I'm still trying to get my mind around all this stuff
[15-Jul-2008 23:22:57] <boingolov> ahh, looks like that info isn't present when I do snmpwalk , so I guess it stands to reason zenoss wouldn't know about it
[15-Jul-2008 23:31:34] <boingolov> ahh, okay, the MIB file on the solaris box is wacky
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:23] <boingolov> or at least the version of net-snmp
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:31] <boingolov> nice talking with you boingolov
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:33] <boingolov> np, boingolov
[15-Jul-2008 23:34:35] <boingolov> later boingolov!
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[16-Jul-2008 00:56:07] <MajereDB8> hey, is anyone here familiar with using the zenpop3 program?
[16-Jul-2008 03:38:22] <Beastmanh> anyone around
[16-Jul-2008 03:38:23] <Beastmanh> ?
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[16-Jul-2008 13:03:18] <MAHerron> anybody awake?
[16-Jul-2008 13:05:35] <TBKdan> Morning
[16-Jul-2008 13:05:50] <MAHerron> hello there
[16-Jul-2008 13:06:02] <TBKdan> hi
[16-Jul-2008 13:06:05] <MAHerron> is there any way to do an snmp get in a tranform?
[16-Jul-2008 13:08:20] <TBKdan> MAHerron: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch10s15.html ?
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[16-Jul-2008 14:59:13] <ckrough> anyone get frequent "Unable to read processes" warnings for their collectors?
[16-Jul-2008 14:59:23] <ckrough> in a distributed zenoss environment
[16-Jul-2008 15:59:06] <MajereDB8> hey, is anyone around who is familiar with zenpop3.py? i'll post on the board, but just thought i'd ask before hand
[16-Jul-2008 17:10:39] <boingolov> I keep getting an issue where zenoss is telling me that heartbeats aren't working for pretty much every service on the system (zenwin, zentrap , etc) but I can see them running
[16-Jul-2008 17:10:42] <boingolov> any thoughts?
[16-Jul-2008 17:10:44] <boingolov> nothing at all in the logs
[16-Jul-2008 17:19:15] <TBKdan> boingolov: Have you tried clearing heartbeats in event manager?
[16-Jul-2008 17:20:37] <boingolov> actually I just deleted the local device, then recreated it using the hostname of a real IP (i.e., not localhost) and it seems to be working better now. not sure if just the deleting the device, which as a side effect did clear all the heartbeats / past events, did the trick or if it was some problem with having the collector as localhost as well as a device called localhost
[16-Jul-2008 17:20:58] <boingolov> now, on to the next issue
[16-Jul-2008 17:21:13] <TBKdan> lol
[16-Jul-2008 17:21:43] <boingolov> anyway, it's flagging that /mnt/cdrom is past the threshold for disk space. while I appreciate its attention to detail, obviously I need to tell it to exclude this mountpoint
[16-Jul-2008 17:21:48] <boingolov> what's the best place to look into doing that?
[16-Jul-2008 17:22:57] <boingolov> I suppose I could do it at the snmpd.conf level, but is there an easy way to do this with zenoss ?
[16-Jul-2008 17:23:32] <TBKdan> boingolov: Try... Go to the device -> OS tab, click the /mnt/cdrom filesystem, go to template, create local copy, then go into that copy and delete the threshold
[16-Jul-2008 17:24:37] <boingolov> cool. so then can I apply that template somehow to the entire "class" , in this case linux boxes?
[16-Jul-2008 17:24:58] <TBKdan> Oh, so it's not just one system?
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:05] <boingolov> well, for now, yes
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:13] <boingolov> but there are about 12 or so that will have the exact same convention
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:30] <boingolov> I'm just now experimenting with several boxes, one of each OS type
[16-Jul-2008 17:25:43] <boingolov> all of the linux boxes use /mnt/cdrom
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:06] <boingolov> so it would be nice if I could figure out how to exclude this mountpoint for all of type /Servers/Linux
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:09] <TBKdan> Do you need to monitor the filesystem?
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:18] <boingolov> yes, just not /mnt/cdrom
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:32] <TBKdan> Ah
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:34] <TBKdan> Here we go
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:50] <TBKdan> Go to Devices/Server/Linux -> zProperties
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:55] <TBKdan> zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[16-Jul-2008 17:26:58] <TBKdan> Also zFileSystemMapIgnoreTypes
[16-Jul-2008 17:27:13] <TBKdan> Unless that doesn't do what it sounds like, it should do the trick for ya
[16-Jul-2008 17:27:50] <boingolov> thank you very much. definitely getting me closer to the goal !
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:07] <TBKdan> w00t. Hope it helps
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:09] <boingolov> now I only have a about a bajillion mib files to hunt down and try to map heh
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:13] <TBKdan> lol
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:15] <TBKdan> good luck
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:16] <boingolov> wee
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:19] <boingolov> thanks, I'll need it
[16-Jul-2008 17:28:22] <TBKdan>
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[16-Jul-2008 17:48:14] <boingolov> by the way, so far so good on that, also looks like that zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames supports regexes
[16-Jul-2008 17:48:19] <boingolov> very very cool
[16-Jul-2008 17:48:25] <boingolov> thanks again for pointing me in the right direction
[16-Jul-2008 18:08:45] <TBKdan> Glad to help
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[16-Jul-2008 18:54:10] <teletype> I'm getting the dreaded NT_STATUS_NET_WRITE_FAULT error when trying to model a windows device via WMI. already checked google, forums, etc, to no avail. My credentials are fine, yet wmic on the command line gives rpc fault: DCERPC_FAULT_ACCESS_DENIED. Am using a local admin account... any ideas?
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[16-Jul-2008 19:29:01] <TBKdan> teletype: Any weird characters in the pass? Including domain in login name?
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[16-Jul-2008 19:31:18] <teletype> nope
[16-Jul-2008 19:31:47] <teletype> and it's not in a domain any more. tried it with just Administrator, with WORKGROUP/Administrator, with a backslash etc
[16-Jul-2008 19:31:57] <teletype> with hostname\administrator, all combos
[16-Jul-2008 19:39:16] <TBKdan> teletype: Try .\Administrator
[16-Jul-2008 20:20:41] <otakup0pe> how do you change the scale for graphs. the data i'm graphing from zenplugin disk is off by an order of magnitute
[16-Jul-2008 20:23:39] <otakup0pe> 953m is showing as 953k etc
[16-Jul-2008 20:40:00] <boingolov> I keep getting a segmentation fault when trying to do an zenmib (seg fault comes from smidump)
[16-Jul-2008 21:18:02] <malbon_> teletype: check that DCOM is allowed from remote machines.
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[16-Jul-2008 21:21:34] <malbon> teletype: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/4c9a2873-2010-4dbb-b9dd-6a7d1e275f0f1033.mspx?mfr=true
[16-Jul-2008 21:21:48] <adytum-bot^> Title: Microsoft Corporation (at technet2.microsoft.com)
[16-Jul-2008 21:44:57] <boingolov> okay, zenmib uses the MIBDIRS environment var, no?
[16-Jul-2008 22:12:19] <boingolov> okay, think I figured out what the problem might be
[16-Jul-2008 22:14:40] <boingolov> zenmib doesn't seem to honor the order of the dependencies entered on the command line
[16-Jul-2008 22:14:53] <boingolov> it's passing them off to zenmib in seemingly random order
[16-Jul-2008 22:15:30] <malbon> may be worth raising a ticket for that.
[16-Jul-2008 22:17:38] <boingolov> okay
[16-Jul-2008 22:20:36] <boingolov> I also could well be mistaken
[16-Jul-2008 22:20:39] <boingolov> going to tinker a bit more
[16-Jul-2008 23:36:15] <davetoo> hi
[16-Jul-2008 23:36:53] <davetoo> Hasn't *anybody* tried to run "zendisc --routers" under 2.2?
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[17-Jul-2008 01:04:54] <MajereDB8> hello, is there anyone who is decent with python, or in particular have knowledge about zenpop3?
[17-Jul-2008 01:05:30] <MAHerron1> hmm
[17-Jul-2008 01:06:23] <MAHerron1> havnt used zenpop3... and have some limited experience with python transforms...
[17-Jul-2008 01:06:33] <MAHerron1> but i cannot promise much
[17-Jul-2008 01:07:19] <MajereDB8> yeah... i can handle c or java, but i don't know python. for some reason, zenpop3 is terminating with errors and not generating an event
[17-Jul-2008 01:08:14] <MajereDB8> if my e-mail account doesn't have any e-mail, it throws an exception saying "instance has no attribute 'finish' " at line 183. for some reason, it's not liking the self.finish() function
[17-Jul-2008 01:29:08] <MajereDB8> meh. it looks like mailprocessor.py is screwy
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[17-Jul-2008 08:21:36] <SniZ|work> hi, i correct time from Wed Jul 16 22:44:48 EEST 2008 to Wed Jul 16 17:49:52 EEST 2008
[17-Jul-2008 08:22:01] <SniZ|work> and i cant see graphs to now
[17-Jul-2008 08:25:25] <SniZ|work> http://i073.radikal.ru/0807/38/69460fde2cee.png
[17-Jul-2008 08:25:32] <SniZ|work> this is my graph
[17-Jul-2008 08:25:40] <SniZ|work> could anybody help?
[17-Jul-2008 08:39:32] <rad73> anyone have any experience of creating new devices by subclassing Device.py and setting zPythonClass to your derived class?
[17-Jul-2008 08:39:49] <rad73> I've got it mostly working.... but the modeler fails with a wierd error:
[17-Jul-2008 08:41:27] <rad73> wow and then after a zenoss restart the error goes away :s
[17-Jul-2008 08:41:55] <rad73> Seems some problems with loading stuff from my zenpack.... maybe things don't get loaded properly initially
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:24] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> hi, i correct time from Wed Jul 16 22:44:48 EEST 2008 to Wed Jul 16 17:49:52 EEST 2008
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> and i cant see graphs to now
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> http://i073.radikal.ru/0807/38/69460fde2cee.png
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> this is my graph
[17-Jul-2008 12:23:28] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work> could anybody help?
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[17-Jul-2008 13:56:04] <rad73> anyone got any experience troubleshooting relationship issues where u get the missing attribute __of__?
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[17-Jul-2008 14:07:48] <rad73> it seems impossible to remove a zenpack if you have a broken relationship
[17-Jul-2008 15:22:59] <boingolov> I'm having some issues importing MIB files using zenmib . I have googled and googled, and while I haven't seen anyone with issues trying to import the specific MIB I'm trying to do, I have seen where a lot of people have similar issues and the solution involves modifying the MIB file
[17-Jul-2008 15:24:35] <boingolov> this is my first experience with these. is there a reference I could possibly start going through, or some sort of tutorial that goes through the process of massaging a mib file for use with zenmib / smidump / smilint ?
[17-Jul-2008 15:26:07] <boingolov> the thing is, by changing the order of the -p entries on the command line to smidump / smilint , I can get it to spit out a reasonable output, but zenmib keeps trying to change the order and it screws it up. where does it get this ordering from? it is not the order entered on the command line, and I am not a python programmer
[17-Jul-2008 15:57:09] <daMaestro> how do we go about adding custom reports?
[17-Jul-2008 15:57:27] <daMaestro> aka.. i'd like to have a custom view that shows perf data for a set of monitored devices in a single screen
[17-Jul-2008 16:01:59] <daMaestro> ah, i see
[17-Jul-2008 16:10:41] <boingolov> http://pastebin.com/m3226b338 <-- here is a basic synopsis of my problems with the mib, and I would love for anyone to make some suggestions on how to override zenmib
[17-Jul-2008 16:12:49] <boingolov> so if I've generated a python file, how can I use this to get imported into zenoss?
[17-Jul-2008 16:14:14] <daMaestro> where can I view the existing report definitions?
[17-Jul-2008 16:48:37] <daMaestro> gah, i can't get custom graphs to work
[17-Jul-2008 16:49:14] <otakup0pe> :/
[17-Jul-2008 16:49:22] <otakup0pe> it took me a while to get them going myself.
[17-Jul-2008 16:49:31] <otakup0pe> biggest problem was tweaking rrdtool to get the scale right.
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:14] <otakup0pe> ok so i'm seeing syslog messages come in with blank eventClassKey ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:22] <otakup0pe> which makes mapping them very hard other than via defaultmapping
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:26] <otakup0pe> thoughts on what i need to check ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:38] <otakup0pe> the component is set as the tag... ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:36:52] <otakup0pe> instead of the eventClassKey being set as the tag.
[17-Jul-2008 17:37:40] <otakup0pe> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5188
[17-Jul-2008 17:37:42] <otakup0pe> :3 thx internets
[17-Jul-2008 17:37:55] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - EventClassKey (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2008 17:39:00] <otakup0pe> hurr this is the code i have but it's still not working
[17-Jul-2008 17:41:03] <otakup0pe> oh wait nm
[17-Jul-2008 17:41:04] <otakup0pe> reading is fun
[17-Jul-2008 17:59:28] <otakup0pe> evt.summary = "${evt/eventKey} has logged in"
[17-Jul-2008 17:59:32] <otakup0pe> what's wrong with that transform ?
[17-Jul-2008 17:59:38] <otakup0pe> cause it prints the literal ${evt/eventKey}
[17-Jul-2008 18:01:36] <otakup0pe> nm :3
[17-Jul-2008 18:44:25] <TBKdan> I'm trying to create a new event for NTBackup failures. There's a few different errors that can get thrown, but they all follow the NTBackup_#### format. Is there any way to create an Event Class key regex or catch all?
[17-Jul-2008 19:41:04] <MAHerron1> anyone able to help with importing NETSNMP?
[17-Jul-2008 19:42:22] <Verilium> Has anyone here ever ran into trouble installing Zenoss Enterprise, the iso installer, on an ESX VM?
[17-Jul-2008 19:42:57] <Verilium> Well, more specifically, the network card doesn't seem to want to work, hmm...
[17-Jul-2008 20:10:05] <TBKdan> So, does anybody know if it is possible to create an event class key as a regex to match something like NTBackup_[0-9]+ ?
[17-Jul-2008 20:12:58] <TBKdan> Ah... perhaps a blank event key and then use the rule...
[17-Jul-2008 20:27:10] <Verilium> Ah nevermind, ESX issue.
[17-Jul-2008 20:39:32] <MAHerron1> has anyone seen this error when trying an 'import netsnmp'
[17-Jul-2008 20:39:36] <MAHerron1> object has no attribute
[17-Jul-2008 20:39:45] <MAHerron1> _____object has no attribute_______
[17-Jul-2008 20:40:00] <MAHerron1> with the underscored being variables
[17-Jul-2008 21:04:14] <boingolov> could someone please take a look? having an issue with zenmib: http://pastebin.com/m3226b338
[17-Jul-2008 21:14:07] <boingolov> I've dug through the zenmib source, and I have basically figured out how it determines what order bo build dependencies for the smidump , though I don't know enough about smidump to be able to say programatically what order theseshould be in
[17-Jul-2008 21:59:03] <boingolov> okay, made a local copy of zenmib.py and managed to get it work properly in this specific instance by doing an insert() instead of append() when it's building the list of dependencies. don't know enough to know if this will work on the generic case, don't really care. on to next issue:
[17-Jul-2008 22:00:21] <boingolov> now I have the MIB file for my device loaded into zenoss, I set the device to send snmp trap messages with given community string to the zenoss server, yet when I see the messages show up in the logs they are of class Unknown
[17-Jul-2008 22:00:40] <boingolov> do I have to tell zenoss that this device should be associated with a certain mib file?
[17-Jul-2008 22:00:56] <MAHerron1> you shouldnt
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:03] <boingolov> I didn't think so
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:08] <MAHerron1> it should associate with the OIDs in the traps
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:23] <boingolov> I assumed as much. so possibly I have another MIB to load?
[17-Jul-2008 22:01:59] <MAHerron1> probably need a few mibs for every type of device you got on her
[17-Jul-2008 22:05:02] <boingolov> gotcha
[17-Jul-2008 22:14:22] <boingolov> by the way, I'd like to make the statement that zenmib is a piece of crap
[17-Jul-2008 22:14:29] <boingolov> just had to get that off my chest, heh
[17-Jul-2008 22:15:04] <boingolov> if smidump is going to be so picky about the ordering of dependencies, and if zenmib is going to get it wrong, then there should at least be an option to manually override
[17-Jul-2008 22:15:35] <boingolov> as it stands I'm having to hard code for each one I'm importing that has more than one depency
[17-Jul-2008 22:16:04] <boingolov> if I were better at python I'd submit a patch
[17-Jul-2008 22:20:07] <boingolov> that being said, I think I finally have enough MIB's loaded now that I'm able to tell that the mystery snmp message was simply telling me that the community name changed
[17-Jul-2008 22:20:40] <boingolov> wee
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[18-Jul-2008 08:22:26] <rad73> does anyone know what it means when the modeler displays an error saying MyClass instance has no attribute '__of__'
[18-Jul-2008 08:22:35] <rad73> I'm sure it has something to do with the zenoss object relations
[18-Jul-2008 08:22:44] <rad73> but I can't figure out how to fix it
[18-Jul-2008 08:36:51] <rad73> I don't understand why loading your zenpack doesn't seem to load everything properly. Why do I keep having to restart zenoss all the time? I'm obviously missing something important but it's pretty frustrating
[18-Jul-2008 09:07:39] <rad73> does anyone understand how the zenoss object relationship model works?
[18-Jul-2008 09:19:00] <linash> rad73, you need to restart because zope keep a cached version of all templates and other stuff. Usually only 'zopectl restart' is required.
[18-Jul-2008 09:24:04] <rad73> linash is that also true for python objects?
[18-Jul-2008 09:24:22] <rad73> because it seems that code changes don't always get reflected until after a restart
[18-Jul-2008 09:26:54] <linash> not too sure about that, but surely restarting also zeodb should be sufficient enough.
[18-Jul-2008 09:27:27] <rad73> thanks linash
[18-Jul-2008 12:51:36] <rad73> does anyone understand how the zenoss object relationship model works?
[18-Jul-2008 12:52:03] <rad73> I keep getting MyClass instance has no attribute '__of__' problems
[18-Jul-2008 12:52:15] <rad73> I just don't understand enough about it to know what i need to fix
[18-Jul-2008 12:53:11] <waa> I'm install zenoss from source and it doesn't record address from locations
[18-Jul-2008 12:54:00] <waa> How can I solve that?
[18-Jul-2008 12:54:33] <MAHerron> what do you mean?
[18-Jul-2008 12:55:08] <MAHerron> you have already manually added a resolvable address in the edit section and zenrestore isnt grabbing them?
[18-Jul-2008 12:55:46] <MAHerron> even if your device has an address configured on it, i dont think it will add it to the applicable section to resolve on google maps
[18-Jul-2008 12:56:10] <MAHerron> for that you have to find the "edit" link on the location page and type in the address
[18-Jul-2008 12:56:41] <MAHerron> and rad73: im having the same issue
[18-Jul-2008 12:56:58] <rad73> MAHerron what have you been trying to do?
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:04] <MAHerron> trying to import with netsnmp
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:31] <MAHerron> and not able to really find anything useful on google
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:33] <rad73> have you created your own classes and set up your own relationships between them?
[18-Jul-2008 12:57:40] <MAHerron> yes
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:01] <MAHerron> driving me crazy
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:02] <rad73> me too.... except I'm pretty sure I've missed something in how to set up the relationships
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:14] <rad73> haha me too.... the errors/logs are not very descriptive
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:26] <MAHerron> same boat
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:35] <rad73> did u copy from an existing example?
[18-Jul-2008 12:58:53] <MAHerron> :-/ nope
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:00] <MAHerron> probably should have
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:07] <rad73> hmm I did and it still doesn't work
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:13] <rad73> which has left me all the more confused
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:29] <MAHerron> the answer will come in time as it always does
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:34] <MAHerron> the forums are our friends
[18-Jul-2008 12:59:51] <rad73> not posted about this on the forums yet
[18-Jul-2008 13:00:16] <MAHerron> yeah i try to exhaust myself before using that avenue
[18-Jul-2008 13:00:31] <rad73> same here - hopefully people will be more willing to help if uv tried
[18-Jul-2008 13:00:53] <MAHerron> hmmm... we hope
[18-Jul-2008 13:02:25] <rad73> it seems the __of__ attribute gets created somewhere (in the magic) when it creates the relationships
[18-Jul-2008 13:02:39] <rad73> but I can't figure out what I have missed
[18-Jul-2008 13:07:30] <waa> MAHerron, I put and address on locations using the edit link but it address get lost when I navigate to other page
[18-Jul-2008 13:09:17] <MAHerron> beats me... it should stay there as long as you save it
[18-Jul-2008 13:09:57] <waa> is it
[18-Jul-2008 13:11:24] <MAHerron> ty setting up a little test
[18-Jul-2008 13:11:27] <MAHerron> try*
[18-Jul-2008 13:11:58] <MAHerron> add a new organizer under locations> *namewhatever*
[18-Jul-2008 13:12:14] <MAHerron> click the *namewhatever* sublocation
[18-Jul-2008 13:12:53] <MAHerron> Address [edit]> click edit and it shoudl open dialougue box... type an address and save
[18-Jul-2008 13:12:59] <MAHerron> should stay
[18-Jul-2008 13:13:02] <MAHerron> not sure why its not
[18-Jul-2008 13:13:15] <MAHerron> thats fuc*in weird
[18-Jul-2008 13:13:31] <waa> ok, let me try
[18-Jul-2008 13:19:10] <waa> It nothing saving my changes
[18-Jul-2008 13:19:46] <waa> I will reisntall zenoss
[18-Jul-2008 13:25:33] <MAHerron> that seems like over kill... but usually solves everything
[18-Jul-2008 13:40:47] <TBKdan> I was wondering if someone could help me with event mapping... A windows box can throw several different kinds of NTBackup errors, but I want to be able to catch them all with a single Zenoss event. The thing they all have in common is a component of "NTBackup" and eventClassKey of "NTBackup_####".. I've tried doing stuff like a blank event class key and a rule of evt.component=="NTBackup" or a regex as the eventClassKey.. can't seem to get it. Any tips
[18-Jul-2008 13:41:31] <jp10558> I'm having a problem, I've got 2 OIDs and I need to turn them into a percentage. So far I've created a bash script to use snmpwalk to query the two OIDs and do the math, but using bc, I get numbers like 64.000000000000
[18-Jul-2008 13:41:48] <jp10558> Is it going to be an issue to feed that into zenoss as a command datasource?
[18-Jul-2008 13:42:02] <jp10558> if so, any help/ideas how to do the proper conversion to an integer?
[18-Jul-2008 14:34:46] <davetoo> Anybody here having zenhub timeout problems with 2.2?
[18-Jul-2008 14:37:13] <zenusr> i see 2.2 ent is out
[18-Jul-2008 14:37:17] <zenusr> wheres the download ?
[18-Jul-2008 14:38:14] <zenusr> not listed on the site, i expected they would let enterprise customers know , seems not tho !
[18-Jul-2008 14:40:20] <rad73> davetoo shutdown zenoss (zenoss stop) and then delete the *.zec files in $ZENHOME/var then restart zenoss(zenoss start)
[18-Jul-2008 14:40:43] <davetoo> btdt
[18-Jul-2008 14:40:58] <davetoo> i.e. I've tried that.
[18-Jul-2008 14:41:19] <rad73> have you checked to see if the zenhub process is runnign?
[18-Jul-2008 14:41:44] <davetoo> it is
[18-Jul-2008 14:41:46] <MajereDB8> hey, does anyone have any experience using zenpop3? i'm having issues getting the program to create an event from an e-mail
[18-Jul-2008 14:42:23] <rad73> davetoo no idea m8... those are just the obvious checks I guess
[18-Jul-2008 14:42:55] <davetoo> Thanks.
[18-Jul-2008 14:42:58] <rad73> np
[18-Jul-2008 15:31:44] <MAHerron> davetoo are you still there?
[18-Jul-2008 15:32:45] <MAHerron> because yes i have had to restart zenhub multiple times due to adding devices and configuation... we were able to stop zenmodeler from continually modeling devices that we didnt need polled and that helped the hub
[18-Jul-2008 15:33:35] <MAHerron> cant tell you how slow zen was runnig before that
[18-Jul-2008 15:34:10] <MAHerron> but fucking with zenmodeler is a good place to start... it uses a good amount of sytem resources when it is auto modeling like it's defaulted to do
[18-Jul-2008 15:34:37] <MAHerron> i hope you see this... because i struggled with restarting the hub for a month before doing this
[18-Jul-2008 15:35:03] <MAHerron> also, may want to mess with the collector plugins for your devices... chances are its polling for things you don't need on a regular basis
[18-Jul-2008 15:43:25] <davetoo> MAHerron: I comment zenmodeler out of the zenoss start script
[18-Jul-2008 15:43:40] <davetoo> I only run it on demand
[18-Jul-2008 15:43:47] <davetoo> because it's a resource pig
[18-Jul-2008 15:44:48] <a3r0_> Zenoss vs Nagios vs OpenNMS, What is the best?
[18-Jul-2008 15:44:51] <davetoo> I have 35,500 RRD files
[18-Jul-2008 15:45:48] <a3r0_> Zenoss can do distributed monitoring like nagios?
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:19] <a3r0_> Zenoss can set scheduled down time like nagios?
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:35] <magnachef> yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:35] <magnachef> yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:46:55] <a3r0_> with basic version?
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:11] <davetoo> maintenance windows:yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:13] <magnachef> distributed, no. Down time, yes
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:32] <davetoo> distributed... when you figure it out, let us know
[18-Jul-2008 15:47:40] <TBKdan> Didn't know about the downtime thing, quick google brought it up
[18-Jul-2008 15:48:14] <a3r0_> another problem of zenoss is effective thread on multi-core cpu.
[18-Jul-2008 15:48:58] <a3r0_> it's python's limitation.
[18-Jul-2008 15:50:24] <a3r0_> It uses only one cpu even under heavy load.
[18-Jul-2008 15:50:41] <davetoo> well Zenoss comprises several daemons
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:05] <davetoo> There used to be a way to run multiple copies of each daemon, as separate "monitors"
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:15] <davetoo> but that's not well documented
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:26] <davetoo> and I'm not sure if it works since zenoss 2.x
[18-Jul-2008 15:51:46] <davetoo> Chet figured it out, and then Zenoss hired him to shut him up about it
[18-Jul-2008 15:52:42] <TBKdan> lol
[18-Jul-2008 15:53:31] <a3r0_> Zenoss is more good at marketing than implemention functionality.
[18-Jul-2008 15:54:09] <a3r0_> I think
[18-Jul-2008 15:54:36] <TBKdan> a3r0_: You came in asking which is the best... seems like you already had an idea in your head though. Personally, I found Zenoss core to be better suited to the company's needs than Nagios/OpenNMS.
[18-Jul-2008 15:54:54] <MAHerron> TBKdan: im with you on that
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:10] <davetoo> so...
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:15] <davetoo> about "zendisc --routers"
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:27] <davetoo> I thought that was S.O.P. for bringing up any new zenoss system
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:33] <davetoo> Does nobody use that?
[18-Jul-2008 15:55:37] <davetoo> (It's broken now)
[18-Jul-2008 15:56:05] <davetoo> I was complaining to a co-worker about Zenoss' regression testing
[18-Jul-2008 15:56:51] <magnachef> I use the REST way of adding devices
[18-Jul-2008 15:57:40] <davetoo> I suppose if you already have a good handle on your layer-3 architecture, that will work
[18-Jul-2008 16:00:10] <magnachef> yeah
[18-Jul-2008 16:25:08] <nwood888> Been racking my brain for hours on this one. Any ideas? WMI connect error on .....: DeviceProxy instance has no attribute 'zWinUser'
[18-Jul-2008 16:25:55] <nwood888> I even tried hard-coding the u/p in WMIClient.py
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[18-Jul-2008 16:43:27] <jp10558> is ${dev/manageIp} what get's me the IP address of a device so it can pass it to an external script?
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[19-Jul-2008 12:28:02] <Luxi> Hello, I am new with snmp and installed Zenoss yesterday. Great Software ! I used the How-to to create the snmpd.conf but after tadding a remote device most of its tabs (Harware, perf) are not populated. Do I have to install plugins for that? Or is in another config in snmpd.conf ?
[19-Jul-2008 12:36:45] <lacin> Hi, is it possible to Monitor a system via SSH? I find that ZenOSS provide Modeling through SSH but can't fine any tip on Monitoring via SSH
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[21-Jul-2008 12:46:58] <otakup0pe> ok so random question is it possible to setup "devices" that are not reachable via ping or resolvable ?
[21-Jul-2008 12:47:17] <otakup0pe> or is there a better way to group bunches of performance graphs together, other than via host.
[21-Jul-2008 12:51:35] <jp10558> Multigraph reports?
[21-Jul-2008 12:51:55] <jp10558> There was a zenpack/community discussion 6 ish months back on the users forum about that
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:01] <jp10558> not sure if it addresses your question
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:11] <otakup0pe> yeah i figured i could put together reports to pull the graphs i want in
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:29] <otakup0pe> but i wanted to have a device-like layout for non-ip capable devices
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:33] <otakup0pe> (actually erlang processes but's thats neither here nor there)
[21-Jul-2008 12:52:52] <otakup0pe> i know you can disable the ping check but can you disable the dns lookup as well ?
[21-Jul-2008 14:29:30] <rad73> does anyone know how to set the default sort column on a TableDatasource for a dashboard portlet?
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[21-Jul-2008 16:04:46] <MajereDB8> hello, is anyone familiar with using the zenpop3 capability?
[21-Jul-2008 16:49:01] <saiber> hello everyone, i m new on zenoss an comunity, hope to find intereting things
[21-Jul-2008 17:17:02] <TBKdan> Don't look behind door #3 o.O
[21-Jul-2008 18:22:09] <mr_clark> Anybody have the community version of Zenoss running on FreeBSD 7?
[21-Jul-2008 18:22:37] <mr_clark> I was going to try an install today but was wondering if there was any updated install notes anybody would have. I checked the site but they only have notes for 6.x.
[21-Jul-2008 18:22:56] <magnachef> check the forums
[21-Jul-2008 18:23:05] <magnachef> I think there's people doing it
[21-Jul-2008 18:28:11] <mr_clark> Okay thanks. I'll take a look.
[21-Jul-2008 18:37:32] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question for anyone available - is it possible to send snmpv3 trap notifications across the internet to a remote site?
[21-Jul-2008 18:38:05] <mr_clark> magnachef, Thanks. I checked the forums. No real details on any tricks/tips on FreeBSD 7. I'll give it a try. I'll start with the 6.x notes and see what happens.
[21-Jul-2008 19:03:32] <kyle___> what syntax would i use with the zenmib command to import a folder of mibs
[21-Jul-2008 19:07:05] <kyle___> got a bunch of HP mibs, dont wanna import them one by one
[21-Jul-2008 19:19:35] <magnachef> I think you might just want to use the *
[21-Jul-2008 19:28:34] <kyle___> Probably
[21-Jul-2008 19:28:40] <kyle___> but is it like ./zenmibs --import *
[21-Jul-2008 19:29:07] <kyle___> or are you saying the ID through the web interface would be *
[21-Jul-2008 19:34:28] <duncan> help, I need some NMS server names! -- suggestions so far, theodin/aragorn (overseers?) -- CIA/KGB -- gallager/carlin -- any suggestions?
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:04] <kso512> duncan: how about "nms-1" ?
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:42] <duncan> kso512:
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:52] <kso512> teehee
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:53] <kyle___> nms-01
[21-Jul-2008 19:50:57] <kyle___>
[21-Jul-2008 19:51:17] <kso512> kyle: yeah, if you're going to have more than 10 of them...!
[21-Jul-2008 19:51:33] <kyle___> hah
[21-Jul-2008 19:52:04] <kso512> duncan: lately at home i've been naming physical machines after constellations (ie: hydra) and then virtual machines on those physical machines after stars in the constellation (ie: alphard)... So is this a physical or virtual machine...?
[21-Jul-2008 19:52:59] <duncan> it is a physical machine
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:04] <duncan> two of them
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:17] <duncan> running different NMS platforms
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:30] <kso512> hmmmm
[21-Jul-2008 19:53:58] <duncan> I named our two LDAP servers Ren and Stimpy, since they run OpenLDAP and the process names are (slapd and slurpd)
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:08] <kso512> duncan: have you read this? http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:17] <adytum-bot^> Title: RFC 1178 (rfc1178) - Choosing a name for your computer (at www.faqs.org)
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:17] <kso512> duncan: hehehe right on
[21-Jul-2008 19:54:53] <kso512> duncan: how about wiggum and quimby?
[21-Jul-2008 19:55:12] <duncan> sounds catchy, where are they from?
[21-Jul-2008 19:55:23] <kso512> duncan: police chief and mayor from The Simpsons
[21-Jul-2008 19:55:31] <duncan> nice =)
[21-Jul-2008 19:57:03] <kso512> duncan: or JAKE and ELWOOD from the blues brothers...
[21-Jul-2008 19:57:32] <duncan> right on
[21-Jul-2008 21:07:42] <daMaestro> so, how do we apply a template to a group of devices?
[21-Jul-2008 21:08:02] <daMaestro> aka.. what type of storage container do we need to create to be able to apply a template to a collection of devices?
[21-Jul-2008 21:08:21] <magnachef> you apply it to a class, then add the devices to that class
[21-Jul-2008 21:09:43] <magnachef> does that make sense?
[21-Jul-2008 21:10:11] <daMaestro> ah, right; yes that makes sense
[21-Jul-2008 21:11:07] <daMaestro> magnachef, do you have any issues with the ethernet counters not working for lo?
[21-Jul-2008 21:11:15] <daMaestro> ethernetCsmacd_64
[21-Jul-2008 21:12:36] <magnachef> I don't bother monitoring lo
[21-Jul-2008 21:13:43] <MajereDB8> hi, is anyone familiar with using the zenpop3 and zenmail functionality for generating events from e-mails?
[21-Jul-2008 21:14:50] <magnachef> I am not
[21-Jul-2008 21:17:09] <MajereDB8> yeah... it seems like nobody is. oh well, guess that's a reason to be here tomorrow for the dev chat
[21-Jul-2008 21:22:43] <Gamekiller77> what is the best channel to ask for help with odd problems with zenoss
[21-Jul-2008 21:30:01] <daMaestro> hmm so i bind templates for device classes, i should un-bind the template at the device level?
[21-Jul-2008 21:30:14] <daMaestro> so when I...
[21-Jul-2008 21:31:50] <Gamekiller77> I have some large timeout on my zenoss issues with zenmodeler and zenwin in the 1565098 sec
[21-Jul-2008 21:32:01] <Gamekiller77> for each of those daemons
[21-Jul-2008 21:32:02] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifHCOutOctets" on server.tld (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10 is bad) is what i'm getting
[21-Jul-2008 21:32:24] <Gamekiller77> i already rebooted once and i also stopped and started the daemons also
[21-Jul-2008 21:35:47] <daMaestro> ah, it's "reset templates"
[21-Jul-2008 21:35:59] <daMaestro> "reset bindings"
[21-Jul-2008 21:36:21] <Gamekiller77> i got in a lot of trouble when i was messing with templates lol was not fun
[21-Jul-2008 21:42:37] <daMaestro> we have very custom requirements
[21-Jul-2008 21:58:59] <MAHerron1> anyone here?
[21-Jul-2008 22:01:25] <MAHerron1> anyone had trouble batch setting device locations in 2.2
[21-Jul-2008 22:01:45] <MAHerron1> i will select all> set location... yet nothing actually moves to the new location
[21-Jul-2008 22:02:14] <jeld> Hi, anyone knows how to use event class mapping? I am trying to do getattr(evt, 'component') == 'snmpd' or evt.component == 'snmpd' and it doesn't seem to work, what is the right way?
[21-Jul-2008 22:03:30] <MAHerron1> you just want the component to display the text "snmpd" for a specific trap?
[21-Jul-2008 22:04:03] <MAHerron1> or are you inserting a variable as the displayed component
[21-Jul-2008 22:04:03] <MAHerron1> ?
[21-Jul-2008 22:04:31] <MAHerron1> if its the former... you should be able to just do evt.component = "snmpd"
[21-Jul-2008 22:05:14] <MAHerron1> in edit> transform of the eventclass mapping
[21-Jul-2008 22:05:42] <jeld> no, I am not dealing with traps yet, this is just for the syslog entries from net-snmp daemon
[21-Jul-2008 22:06:11] <jeld> all I want to do is map snmpd syslog lines to a particular event class
[21-Jul-2008 22:07:04] <jeld> so I created a mapping for the Config/Snmp named snmpd with event class key snmpd and rule I mentioned
[21-Jul-2008 22:07:23] <jeld> and no events seem to trickle down to it
[21-Jul-2008 22:07:47] <MAHerron1> hm
[21-Jul-2008 22:08:51] <jeld> one thing I noticed is that by default all the syslog events have empty event class key, could this be the reason? I set event class to empty in my mapping, but still no go
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:48] <MAHerron1> yeah sorry, i dont think im going to be of any further help
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:52] <MAHerron1>
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:54] <jeld> on the other hand, even mapping rules that came with the default install don't seem to work
[21-Jul-2008 22:09:55] <MAHerron1> wish i could
[21-Jul-2008 22:11:51] <jeld>
[21-Jul-2008 22:18:08] <Gamekiller77> MAHerron1: the move location from with in the /server/windows group seems to crash for me now
[21-Jul-2008 22:18:14] <Gamekiller77> i submitted a bug for it
[21-Jul-2008 22:19:28] <MAHerron1> yeah it was happening sporadically but a relogin would help... now it's just plain impossible to batch set for a group of devices... you have a ticket number for your bug?
[21-Jul-2008 22:20:46] <Gamekiller77> nah did an auto submit on the crash
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:33] <MAHerron1> nice... well if you happen to hear back will you ping me on aim?
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:38] <MAHerron1> aherronlagnaps
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:41] <Gamekiller77> i use to get it a lot of 2.1 betas
[21-Jul-2008 22:21:57] <MAHerron1> yeah... its a reason i downgraded off of beta
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:07] <MAHerron1> glad to see its now in a stable release
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:09] <Gamekiller77> now with 2.2 it was working fine
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:18] <Gamekiller77> then out of the blue stopped
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:24] <MAHerron1> yeah... keyword: was
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:29] <MAHerron1> sigh
[21-Jul-2008 22:22:45] <Gamekiller77> my problems is super wired
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:01] <Gamekiller77> man
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:07] <Gamekiller77> now zenhub being wierd
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:35] <MAHerron1> hmm
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:40] <MAHerron1> i had zenhub problems
[21-Jul-2008 22:23:50] <MAHerron1> are you having to restart zen a bunch?
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:00] <MAHerron1> and zenhub process hangs?
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:10] <Gamekiller77> yah
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:10] <MAHerron1> making you 'kill' it?
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:26] <Gamekiller77> zenmodeler zenhub and zenwin
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:26] <MAHerron1> you may want to eff with zenmodeler
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:30] <Gamekiller77> i get zenoss issues
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:50] <Gamekiller77> like 1 million seconds
[21-Jul-2008 22:24:51] <Gamekiller77> lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:24] <MAHerron1> well quick tip
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:34] <MAHerron1> zenmodeler is a resource hog
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:45] <MAHerron1> and doesnt do much... at least for me
[21-Jul-2008 22:25:49] <Gamekiller77> what i did notice is that i have two zenoss install dir
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:19] <MAHerron1> personally i stop zenmodeler from loading at all... it continually models all devices and eats up resources
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:39] <MAHerron1> you should probably try to comment it out and see if that helps you out
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:49] <MAHerron1> at least while configuring zen
[21-Jul-2008 22:26:50] <Gamekiller77> yah
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:05] <MAHerron1> it will still model devices when you add them
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:05] <Gamekiller77> no i have a full network mapped already
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:13] <MAHerron1> hm
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:16] <Gamekiller77> i finaly got all my windows servers added and all
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:27] <Gamekiller77> it working great in that aspect
[21-Jul-2008 22:27:39] <Gamekiller77> infact i found errors on my AD server i never knew about
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:12] <MAHerron1> yeah im loving it so far... about to completly destroy my nagios box
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:20] <Gamekiller77> zenhub is the one thing that seems to bite teh dusk every time i model
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:48] <MAHerron1> yeah, pretty sure its due to zenmodeler... ive seen the issue discussed on the forums
[21-Jul-2008 22:28:58] <Gamekiller77> hmm ok
[21-Jul-2008 22:29:47] <Gamekiller77> i have yet to get e-mail alert to work for me
[21-Jul-2008 22:29:59] <Gamekiller77> i unplugged a server the other day and i got nothing
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:06] <Gamekiller77> it was unplugged for 30 minutes
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:07] <MAHerron1> eek
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:21] <MAHerron1> persnoally have not wrestled with the email stuff yet
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:44] <MAHerron1> my engineers squaked at the prospect of more emails
[21-Jul-2008 22:30:51] <Gamekiller77> i gotton all my cisco MS server and my linux boxs on zenoss
[21-Jul-2008 22:31:26] <Gamekiller77> i just want it for hi level problems
[21-Jul-2008 22:31:52] <Gamekiller77> my switchs send out way to many Yellow alerts
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:16] <MAHerron1> these coming in through traps or polling?
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:18] <Gamekiller77> the one thing i have not been able to keep up 100% is windows Perf
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:22] <Gamekiller77> traps
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:38] <MAHerron1> yeah you can set trap sev if you need to in zproperties
[21-Jul-2008 22:32:45] <Gamekiller77> every time a user jacks in and out
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:00] <MAHerron1> yeah i set stuff like that to debug and never deal with it again
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:12] <Gamekiller77> yup
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:22] <Gamekiller77> but again my perf stuff nto working again
[21-Jul-2008 22:33:31] <Gamekiller77> man i really need that for server load tracking
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:05] <MAHerron1> heard of cacti?
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:07] <MAHerron1>
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:19] <Gamekiller77> yah was looking at it
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:30] <Gamekiller77> but have not had time to play with it yet
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:35] <Gamekiller77> to busy with other projects
[21-Jul-2008 22:34:51] <MAHerron1> i like it better for perf monitoring than zen... but thats all
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:11] <Gamekiller77> trying to finish the deploy of 3 other open source projects here at my university
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:25] <MAHerron1> eek
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:35] <MAHerron1> what else?
[21-Jul-2008 22:35:44] <Gamekiller77> well there all deployed just finaly stages
[21-Jul-2008 22:36:01] <Gamekiller77> Moodle, OCS-NG and RT: RTFM:
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:07] <Gamekiller77> Moodle is done i just need to train users
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:24] <MAHerron1> arguably the hardest part
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:28] <Gamekiller77> OCS-NG is done i just need to do the last couple computer on the net and RT is done
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:44] <Gamekiller77> Way hard as the teachers here are no tech
[21-Jul-2008 22:37:56] <MAHerron1> sigh
[21-Jul-2008 22:38:12] <Gamekiller77> we went from a E1 to a DS3 and they like ok so
[21-Jul-2008 22:38:58] <MAHerron1> so, oviously they have no comprehension of the words "crazy bandwidth"
[21-Jul-2008 22:39:03] <MAHerron1>
[21-Jul-2008 22:39:11] <Gamekiller77> ROLF i just had my JR admin unplug my test server and now more then half the servers are RED
[21-Jul-2008 22:39:42] <Gamekiller77> on zenoss
[21-Jul-2008 22:40:41] <Gamekiller77> i think me stopping the zenmoderl let everthing else reg with the server
[21-Jul-2008 22:40:49] <Gamekiller77> i got about a millions events now
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:11] <Gamekiller77> i think zenwin crashed on me
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:28] <Gamekiller77> nope it just working now lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:28] <MAHerron1> it never ends does it
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:34] <MAHerron1> lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:41] <Gamekiller77> lol
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:51] <Gamekiller77> time ti play with windows services
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:58] <MAHerron1> aiight i have to track down why i cannot set locations anymore
[21-Jul-2008 22:42:59] <Gamekiller77> that zenwin tracks
[21-Jul-2008 22:43:07] <MAHerron1> later
[21-Jul-2008 22:43:10] <Gamekiller77> it a call to the database
[21-Jul-2008 22:49:56] <Gamekiller77> O I got one for this room. Is there a way to edit the line in "Device Information" Links
[21-Jul-2008 23:07:16] <MAHerron1> this is weird
[21-Jul-2008 23:07:35] <MAHerron1> its only not letting me set the locations for certain devices
[21-Jul-2008 23:07:46] <MAHerron1> what the f**k am i missing
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[22-Jul-2008 10:45:56] <fuzz> if using the stack installer, do I need to use the bundeled-in mysql-server, or can I use a mysql instance on a remote host?
[22-Jul-2008 11:46:45] <mf2ng> hmm
[22-Jul-2008 11:47:33] <mf2ng> can someone give a example how to make threshold of 10% change in 5min
[22-Jul-2008 11:48:53] <mf2ng> so, if for example UPS OutputLoad changes from 15kW to 20kW for more than 5 minutes i would like to know about it
[22-Jul-2008 14:04:28] <kso512> fuzz: I'm just guess-timating here, but I would think you could change Zenoss to connect to another MySQL database, even on another machine... You may want to look at the 'zenoss-stack' command script, though, and comment out the parts where it starts up and shuts down it's internal mysql server...
[22-Jul-2008 14:07:29] <kso512> fuzz: To change what MySQL server Zenoss connects to, go to the Event Manager page (.../zport/dmd/ZenEventManager)
[22-Jul-2008 14:12:45] <jb> hi..
[22-Jul-2008 14:28:16] <jb> anyone here that knows how to create basic reports?
[22-Jul-2008 14:55:32] <daMaestro> how do we adjust how often zenoss polls?
[22-Jul-2008 14:55:50] <daMaestro> it looks like we are getting polling every 5 minutes and we'd like to look at doing so every 1
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:45] <jb> you can set zCommandCycleTime in the zproperties for the device tree..
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:51] <jb> i beleive that should do it.
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:53] <jb> its defauletd to 60
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:54] <davewinter> 2.1 or 2.2?
[22-Jul-2008 14:56:58] <jb> 2.2
[22-Jul-2008 14:57:47] <mistich> be careful doing 1 min polling cycle if you are pulling alot of oid your going to need a big box
[22-Jul-2008 14:58:23] <ckrough> you can set it under /Monitors/Performance/localhost/editPerformanceConf
[22-Jul-2008 14:58:42] <ckrough> 1 minute cycle eats a lot of disk IO if you have a high number of OIDS
[22-Jul-2008 14:58:51] <ckrough> replace localhost with the collector name
[22-Jul-2008 14:59:46] <mrayzenoss> Hi everybody, Matt Ray from Zenoss here. Looks like discussions are already under way.
[22-Jul-2008 15:00:20] <mrayzenoss> There are a couple of Zenoss folks in the channel, they can introduce themselves if they like, or lurk anonymously
[22-Jul-2008 15:00:36] <ericnewton> Hello... this is Eric (not Erik) from Zenoss
[22-Jul-2008 15:00:41] <ian__> I'd prefer to lurk anonymously.
[22-Jul-2008 15:01:14] <ericnewton> wow... a lot more people than when I used to come here 2 years ago
[22-Jul-2008 15:01:48] <davewinter> I will be the first to kiss a$$. Thanks Zenoss Devs for making such a great product!
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:04] <davewinter> Now can you please do all my features requests?
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:14] <mistich> and mine too
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:18] <ericnewton> yes... +1 for all kiss-ass requests
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:19] <ian__> ericnewton would be happy to.
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:44] <mistich> so well have those next week
[22-Jul-2008 15:02:57] <mrayzenoss> so features... 2.2.3 is in the polishing stages
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:03] <ericnewton> in keeping with our normally timely schedules, yes of course
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:07] <daMaestro> good.
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:16] <davewinter> sept for 2.2.3? or oct?
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:18] <mrayzenoss> not a lot of new functionality, lots of installer issues for this one
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:19] <daMaestro> i'm having to use 2.1.3 because of some bugs we have run into
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:29] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.3 is this week (hopefully). 2.3 is October
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:35] <davewinter> ah
[22-Jul-2008 15:03:45] <daMaestro> it's just some TALES issues
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:07] * Shylock wishes for support of a debian based distro for Zenoss Enterprise
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:13] <ericnewton> if you run Core, then you can probably pull a source release from the branch and be running 2.2.3 today
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:16] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro:have you opened tickets?
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:21] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, yes
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:28] <mistich> I have a question is there a place we can look at what is going to be in 2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:29] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, have not had time to send a patch
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:31] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: have they been addressed?
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:33] <mistich> or any version
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:37] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, dunno
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:48] <magnachef> any upgrades to the docs with these upcomming releases?
[22-Jul-2008 15:04:56] <ericnewton> Shylock: have you tried the .deb stack installer?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:02] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:07] <cccharles> is it true that there is no easy way to enable HTTPS in the web GUI?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:10] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:16] <Shylock> I can install core, but was informed that enterprise is not supported on Debian
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:16] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: minor documentation refreshes
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:18] <davewinter> anyone running zenoss-enterprise with an offbox mysql? or mysql cluster?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:25] <daMaestro> specifically.. our 64TB mount was reporting something like 5TB
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:29] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: dev doc stuff for adding tabs didn't make it in (2.2.4)
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:43] <ckrough> davewinter: are you findin
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:51] <ckrough> g mysql as a bottleneck?
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:52] <ericnewton> Shylock: this will be remedied with 2.2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:05:53] <daMaestro> but there were many other graphing issues, which sucked
[22-Jul-2008 15:06:09] <mrayzenoss> Shylock: we have to make choices on how many platforms we can support officially. Debian may be covered by BitRock installers for Enterprise eventually
[22-Jul-2008 15:06:15] <davewinter> ckrough, no, just need to have a common platform or other apps to use mysql. dont need a lot of mysql servers to manage.
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:09] <Shylock> ericnewton: Ok... I just installed Cenos5 to get 2.2 up and going here, but I've been debian guy for the last 8 years or so... My redhat-fu has become weak.
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:24] <daMaestro> so, i'd really like to get interface monitoring working again
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:27] <davewinter> we had a 32 million row history table that i had to deal with recently, so i need a more robust mysql solution rather than keeping it on the zneoss server
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:31] <ericnewton> daMaestro: do you know if netsnmp reports the correct value for your 64 TB mount?
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:31] <ckrough> What is the long term direction for reporting? Will there be major changes in the way reports are created, or will you be sticking with the current method?
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:38] <daMaestro> ericnewton, it does, yet
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:43] <mrayzenoss> mistich: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6651
[22-Jul-2008 15:07:45] <daMaestro> ericnewton, it also works correctly with 2.1.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:00] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - The 2.3 Release Plan (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:04] <daMaestro> what i'd really like help with is getting interface perf monitoring to work correctly
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:47] <mistich> yes I've seen the post but something more detailed
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:49] <ericnewton> daMaestro: please post a bug for the 64 TB mount and attach an SNMP walk of the device (edit out any bits you don't want public)
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:52] <MajereDB8> hi, i've been testing the zenpop3 module for a while and have been having some trouble getting the program to generate events. pjp13 posted some fixes that have eliminated one of my problems (unable to parse the from: line), but i'm still getting a bunch of errors
[22-Jul-2008 15:08:56] <daMaestro> ericnewton, ok
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:19] <mrayzenoss> ckrough: I haven't seen much about changing reporting. I'd like to put out more documentation and examples so people can do more
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:24] <ericnewton> daMaestro: what issues are you having with interface graphs?
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:37] <MajereDB8> i've documented my problems here - http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6677 - problem 2 is solved by pjp13's patch
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:42] <daMaestro> Throughput, Packets, Errors (via the perf tab) are not rendering with the shipped ethernetCsmacd_64 template
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:44] <magnachef> yeah, maybe get a wiki going where people can post examples of their reports
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:45] <daMaestro> I also get:
[22-Jul-2008 15:09:53] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenpop3 errors - unable to generate e-mail event (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:08] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifOutErrors" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:13] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: We are down to 2 finalists for replacing our wiki and community infrastructure
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:17] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifHCInOctets" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.6 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:24] <davewinter> i get the "is bad" snmp issue sometimes as well.
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:28] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "ifHCOutOctets" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:29] <daMaestro> etc
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:30] <ericnewton> MajereDB8: zenpop3 is unfinished... I expect it to take some elbo-grease to get it working
[22-Jul-2008 15:10:35] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: we're looking for something much easier to add content to and collaborate on
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:09] <Shylock> So, is there a model diagram or documentation for all of the dmd classes? All of the zenoss classes inherit from such method heavy superclasses that introspection isn't very helpful in figuring out how to navigate the dmd.
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:12] <jshadow> any chance ticket 363, acknowledging and clearing via smtp will make it in soon? I see that being bery useful
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:27] <TBKdan> I'm trying to create a catch-all event for NTBackup errors. The event class key is in the form of NTBackup_#### and component is NTBackup.. Is there a way to create an event that will map to any of these events without creating an event for each possible error??
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:38] <jb> hi guys.
[22-Jul-2008 15:11:57] <jb> what was the .bmp that you tried to dcc?
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:01] <jb> i missed it..
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:18] <ericnewton> Shylock: we use a couple of techniques while working in zendmd
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:27] <mistich> I agree would be nice to have docs on all of the dmd classes
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:29] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3785 is what snmpwalk shows
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:30] <ericnewton> Shylock: we use "grepdir" to search for properties
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:33] <MajereDB8> ericnewton: bummer. i understand how that goes. the zenackevents script posted by edahl is pretty slick and would work great in combination with zenpop3, but i guess all things come with time
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:39] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3785 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:45] <ericnewton> Shylock: I find it's easier to print obj.__dic__
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:50] <jb> guys, is 2.2.1 out yet?
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:51] <mrayzenoss> jshadow: Nothing specific is being done on SMS/SMTP control that I'm aware of, but we are going to start cleaning out zenoss-3000 to get better traction on tickets
[22-Jul-2008 15:12:54] <daMaestro> so, obviously 1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10 is not bad
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:09] <jshadow> mrayzenss: Ok, thanks
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:30] <mrayzenoss> jb: 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 didn't come out officially, 2.2.3 is about to come out
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:33] <ericnewton> daMaestro: is snmp version set to v2c on the device?
[22-Jul-2008 15:13:45] <jb> mrayzenoss: can I expect a -CLEAN- upgrade from 2.2.0?
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:00] <Shylock> ericnewton: Yeah... I generally load the rlcompleter tab completion stuff. I haven't used grepdir before, I'll try that.
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:15] <ericnewton> jb: we have spent most of the time/effort for 2.2.3 on upgrades
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:20] <jb> awesome!
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:21] <ericnewton> jb: and testing
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:26] <jb> my 2.1.2 -> 2.2 experience was horrific
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:32] <daMaestro> ericnewton, yes
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:52] <daMaestro> ericnewton, if i go to an individual interface.. the graph is properly generated
[22-Jul-2008 15:14:57] <jb> so when can we expect 2.2.3? this week?
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:13] <ericnewton> jb: yes, if things keep going well
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:17] <jb> ok
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:26] <daMaestro> ericnewton, i've just tried deleting lo and sit0 and then locked the ip interfaces to see if that gets rid of the snmp warnings and makes the "perf" tab interface graphs work
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:49] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.3 is in a RC right now
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:49] <daMaestro> so far, the perf tab graphs are still not rendering
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:49] <magnachef> is it still the case that if you rename your device, you lose all of your RRD data associated with that device? Because I noticed that with 2.1.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:15:55] <jb> I had read that there was an official BigIP zenpack, but I haven't seen any talk of it since the announcement..
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:02] <jb> is this still in progress?
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:03] <jshadow> On the note of the feature requests, it would be nice to have a voting system sort of like the ubuntu brainstorm
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:12] <ericnewton> daMaestro: you can run zenperfsnmp against one device in debug mode:
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:21] <mrayzenoss> jb: Enterprise has a BigIP ZenPack I believe
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:25] <jb> ah.
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:31] <jb> i have started one for core
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:32] <mistich> yes a voting system would be nice
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:51] <ckrough> depends on how many votes I get
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:51] <jb> i wonder what the enterprise pack does exactly
[22-Jul-2008 15:16:52] <ericnewton> daMastro: zenperfsnmp -v 10 -d myproblemdevice
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:11] <daMaestro> i also seem to have an issue with http and https ip service randomly stop monitoring
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:33] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'll see if we have a PDF
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:44] <mistich> one for you ckrough
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:46] <jb> thanks
[22-Jul-2008 15:17:57] <ericnewton> daMaestro: I believe a bug was fixed: the services would toggle monitoring w/each modeling run
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:17] <ericnewton> deMaestro: fixed in 2.2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:30] <jb> hey guys, has there been any progress on documentation for making custom modelers?
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:36] <ptothedo> Will multi-graphing adding reports to zenpacks be fixed?
[22-Jul-2008 15:18:51] <jb> ie, populating fields such as HW Make, OS Make, OS Version (and other custom fields maybe?) with data via snmp?
[22-Jul-2008 15:19:16] <ericnewton> ptothedo: could you be more specific (and post a bug report if you haven't)?
[22-Jul-2008 15:19:18] <daMaestro> ericnewton, good news
[22-Jul-2008 15:19:51] <daMaestro> ericnewton, is there an upgrade path?
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:08] <mrayzenoss> jb: checking with the doc guy
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:17] <davetoo> I'd like to talk about zenhub in 2.2. I'm seeing a lot of timeouts now.
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:33] <davetoo> What changed?
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:52] * daMaestro wonders if there are 2.2.3rc rpms somewhere?
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:58] <ericnewton> davetoo... in 2.2 we switched
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:58] <ptothedo> I haven't created a bug report yet, but if I try to add sub report organizers to a zenpack they don't get add. Also, resequencing items in reporting isn't working for me.
[22-Jul-2008 15:20:58] <daMaestro> or even *gulp* a repo?
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:00] <daMaestro> ;-/
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:00] <davetoo> (sorry, I haven't looked at the changelists for it yet)
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:13] <ericnewton> davetoo: nearly every daemon to get data from zenhub
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:13] <cccharles> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3928&highlight=https <-- Is this really the only way to get the web GUI to support HTTPS?
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:22] <jb> I think custom modelers are very important.. and we haven't seen any documentation/easy way to create them..
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:29] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Modifying Zenoss for SSL encryption (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:33] <ericnewton> davetoo: for simpler distributed collection
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:33] <davetoo> ericnewton: I was speculating about that
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:39] <daMaestro> ericnewton, i assume that a workaround for now is to lock ip services?
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:43] <ian__> daMaestro: there is a yum repo, but it doesn't have rc rpms in it
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:46] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: we haven't put together infrastructure for providing betas very well
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:53] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, ok
[22-Jul-2008 15:21:57] <ericnewton> daMaestro: yes for now
[22-Jul-2008 15:22:05] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: betas tend to get out in the wild, we still see people running the pre-2.2. betas
[22-Jul-2008 15:22:05] <daMaestro> ian__, i'll look around and sync the tree into our cobbler infrastructure
[22-Jul-2008 15:22:41] <ericnewton> davetoo: tell me a bit about your setup and where you are seeing timeouts
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:09] <mrayzenoss> jb: when we get the new wiki up, I plan on seeding discussion areas so people can get such stuff started if we don't provide it yet
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:11] <davetoo> I think I have about 33,000 rrd files
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:27] <jb> k
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:41] <davetoo> I'm looking for system specs right now...
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:52] <mrayzenoss> jb: Have you opened a ticket for it? That'll get it some love
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:53] <ckrough> we are fighting zenperf and zenprocess timeouts as well
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:58] <ericnewton> davetoo: most of the collection via snmp?
[22-Jul-2008 15:23:58] <davetoo> dual-Xeon 3G
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:01] <jb> yeah theres a ticket
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:04] <davetoo> yes
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:05] <jb> eric dahl opened it I beileve..
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:19] <TBKdan> I'm trying to create a catch-all event for NTBackup errors. The event class key is in the form of NTBackup_#### and component is NTBackup.. Is there a way to create an event that will map to any of these events without creating an event for each possible error??
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:32] <mrayzenoss> jb: number? I'll get it to Doc and out of Erik's queue
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:33] <daMaestro> Error reading value for "eth0" on server (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.2 is bad)
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:34] <davetoo> Not much by commands, none by WMI
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:45] <jb> whats the ticket URL again?
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:49] <jb> trac
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:51] <daMaestro> blah, well after i removed the lo interface, i'm now getting these events
[22-Jul-2008 15:24:53] <ericnewton> davetoo: that's good... the timeouts: are you missing your cycle time?
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:14] <davetoo> I began to notice the timeouts when adding new devices
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:44] <ericnewton> jb: dev.zenoss.com
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:46] <davetoo> Not missing poll cycles currently
[22-Jul-2008 15:25:51] <jb> eric: thanks
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:22] <ericnewton> davetoo: where do you see timeouts?
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:23] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3786 is what the shipped template requests, and i can snmpwalk those OIDs
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:32] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3786 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:26:45] <davetoo> ericnewton: zendeviceloader timeouts
[22-Jul-2008 15:27:18] <davetoo> http://pastebin.com/m686d5e5d
[22-Jul-2008 15:27:57] <davetoo> I'm also surprised that I'm seeing zenstatus log messages in the zenhub logfile now....
[22-Jul-2008 15:28:58] <ericnewton> davetoo: that actually looks ok... have you investigated why those 10 devices have timedout?
[22-Jul-2008 15:28:59] <jb> arg, I can't find the ticket number or the forum thread.
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:14] <mistich> davetoo: when you have bad devices zenpref retries the devices and it takes longer
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:15] <jb> here it is
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:18] <jb> mrayzenoss: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3292
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:25] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3292 (document modeler plugins) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:42] <jb> so it wasn't edahl
[22-Jul-2008 15:29:47] <mistich> if you remove or fix the bad devices your polling cycle will finish on time
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:07] <davetoo> yes,
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:09] <mrayzenoss> Hey ericnewton, #3292 is in your box.
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:20] <davetoo> but my problem is not currently with the snmp polling finishing on time
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:22] <ericnewton> mrayzenoss: oh good.. I was running out
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:27] <jb>
[22-Jul-2008 15:30:47] <davetoo> the problem is that while adding devices the connection to zenhub times out
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:07] <davetoo> I get a message asking if zenhub is running
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:13] <mrayzenoss> speaking of numerous and interesting ZenPacks.... we've had 15 entries in the Submit a ZenPack contest
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:14] <ericnewton> oh, that I can believe
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:23] <mistich> from what you pasted all I see is the bad devices
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:29] <jb> mrayzenoss: oh yeah? are they published anywhere?
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:41] <mrayzenoss> there's a big backlog to be published
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:49] <mrayzenoss> I believe 7 are up so far
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:51] <ericnewton> davetoo: zenhub is trying to push the changes (the new device) to the collectors
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:54] <davetoo> I'm not very well prepared for this discussion, sorry; I'm at a remote site and just learned about this yesterday.
[22-Jul-2008 15:31:59] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/
[22-Jul-2008 15:32:09] <mistich> yeah I need to post some of mine and quit hording them for myself
[22-Jul-2008 15:32:13] <adytum-bot^> Title: ZenPack Project Site - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 15:32:49] <daMaestro> umm... well when i re-modeled the device... it seems to have ignored my locks
[22-Jul-2008 15:33:23] <ericnewton> daMaestro: that's unfortunate
[22-Jul-2008 15:33:39] <mrayzenoss> new ZenPacks up so far are: ASSP Anti-Spam, Brocade Switches, Improved Linux Monitoring, MIB Browser, OpenLayers Map.
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:18] <ericnewton> daMaestro: you can probably find the changesets that fix the issue if the need is urgent
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:30] <davetoo> anyway what is your strategy for preventing zenhub from becoming a bottleneck?
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:40] <mistich> the only thing would be nice to have a link on the zenpacks page of stuff people are currently working-on or would like to see
[22-Jul-2008 15:34:50] <ericnewton> davetoo: you can have multiple zenhubs
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:02] <mistich> oh yes we have 8 on one box
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:10] <mistich> it helps alot
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:14] <ericnewton> mistich is a crazy man
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:17] <mrayzenoss> in the queue: updated Funkwerks, Alvarion, NetApp, Netasq, WMIFilesMonitor, EMC Celerra NAS, SQL Server
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:35] <davetoo> Is this similar to the old multiple monitor trick that Chet figured out?
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:51] <davetoo> is there a wiki page/faq entry?
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:57] <ericnewton> davetoo: probably
[22-Jul-2008 15:35:59] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah and Colubris, MRV and Raytalk
[22-Jul-2008 15:36:39] <ericnewton> davetoo: not that I know of... enterprise 2.2.3 will have a GUI to set it up
[22-Jul-2008 15:36:53] <mistich> nice
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:06] <davetoo> ok...
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:12] <mistich> I have a script that we create multpile zenhubs
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:12] <cccharles> are there any plans to ship an SSL-enabled Zope?
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:19] <daMaestro> ericnewton, http://fpaste.org/paste/3789 is what i get if i try to use the ethernetCsmacd template, which seems to be properly graphing interfaces
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:25] <davetoo> we will have to try to talk to Gary again about that
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:28] <ericnewton> cccharles: not that I know of
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:29] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3789 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:33] <davetoo> the last phone call didn't go so well :|
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:41] <mistich> modified from something zenoss sent me
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:42] <ericnewton> cccharles: most people just front the thing with Apache
[22-Jul-2008 15:37:48] <ptothedo> lol
[22-Jul-2008 15:38:13] <cccharles> ericnewton: I've seen some discussion about that... it seems heavy when you have Zope already running.
[22-Jul-2008 15:39:05] <cccharles> ericnewton: thanks for the tip, though. at least I know now :-).
[22-Jul-2008 15:39:09] <mistich> we front ours with apache works great
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:26] <ericnewton> daMaestro: perhaps this bug/and patches will help: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/2960
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:34] <adytum-bot^> Title: #2960 (OS Process modeling/monitoring exhibiting strange behavior) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:41] <ericnewton> that's for processes, not services
[22-Jul-2008 15:40:56] <ericnewton> so perhaps it is not fixed after all
[22-Jul-2008 15:41:40] <daMaestro> ericnewton, looks like this will be in 2.2.3?
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:03] <ericnewton> daMaestro: http://fpaste.org/paste/3789 from a system that has been upgraded from 2.0?
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:05] <daMaestro> ericnewton, we tried 2.2.0 and that liked to epic fail a lot
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:10] <davetoo> Another topic: the loss of zendisc --routers functionality
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:12] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3789 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:13] <daMaestro> ericnewton, no, that is just 2.1.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:30] <davetoo> had nobody been using that to bring up new systems?
[22-Jul-2008 15:42:36] <ericnewton> well, we're trying to cut down on Epic Fail... that's why you haven't seen 2.2.1 or 2.2.2
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:04] <mrayzenoss> yeah, 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 had upgrade issues, like you couldn't
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:04] <ericnewton> we kept those Fails to ourselves
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:30] <mrayzenoss> we plan on having a more vigorous beta program for 2.3
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:37] <davetoo> good
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:44] <mistich> can you use 2.2.2 collectors to speak to a 2.1.3 master
[22-Jul-2008 15:43:52] <ckrough> crosses fingers
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:09] <mistich> I'd like to be on the beta
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:12] <mrayzenoss> we'll be soliciting 2.3 beta testers in a controlled fashion, so not too many people blowing up their junk
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:14] <TBKdan> lol... too bad MS doesn't follow the "Don't release epic fails" philosophy sometimes...
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:21] <ericnewton> mistich: probably not a good idea
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:27] <mrayzenoss> mistich: it'll be for Enterprise and Core customers
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:40] <mrayzenoss> err... users
[22-Jul-2008 15:44:55] <ckrough> mistich: you gonna work double shifts?
[22-Jul-2008 15:45:06] <mistich> soon I'll have some test boxes and once there up I'd be glad to help not on my production systems
[22-Jul-2008 15:45:46] <daMaestro> darnit
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:13] <daMaestro> what data points should i be using to be able to utilized the data i can see in the os/ ethX perf reports?
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:43] <mistich> anyone have any luck with holt-winters?
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:46] <ericnewton> daMaestro: what are you trying to do?
[22-Jul-2008 15:46:55] <TBKdan> Is this even possible? If not, please say so... I'm trying to create a catch-all event for NTBackup errors. The event class key is in the form of NTBackup_#### and component is NTBackup.. Is there a way to create an event that will map to any of these events without creating an event for each possible error??
[22-Jul-2008 15:47:18] <daMaestro> ericnewton, add a report that graphs all our web nodes interface traffic
[22-Jul-2008 15:49:20] <ericnewton> daMastro: there's already a graph that sort of does that: /zport/dmd/Reports/Performance Reports/Aggregate Reports
[22-Jul-2008 15:49:38] <ericnewton> the last one: just click the graph and add a different pattern for the devices
[22-Jul-2008 15:50:12] <ericnewton> you might be able to trace how that graph is generated to create your own
[22-Jul-2008 15:50:57] <ericnewton> but to answer your question: ifInOctets and ifOutOctets
[22-Jul-2008 15:51:06] <ericnewton> if you are using the v1 32-bit counters
[22-Jul-2008 15:51:35] <ckrough> has anyone done aggregated multi-graph reports?
[22-Jul-2008 15:52:32] <ericnewton> and ifHCInOctets and ifHCOutOctets if you are using the high-performance counter config
[22-Jul-2008 15:53:46] <ericnewton> TBKdan: the defaultmapping event mapper runs if the event class key doesn't match: try modifying that
[22-Jul-2008 15:54:30] <TBKdan> ericnewton: Ok, I'll take a look. Thanks.
[22-Jul-2008 15:55:27] <mrayzenoss> Thanks to everybody for coming to #zenoss to chat for a bit, I'm gonna let Eric get back to fixing your tickets
[22-Jul-2008 15:55:39] <TBKdan> Just ran into a bug I believe... trying to view multiple pages of eventClassInstSequence and trying to view any page other than the default just brings it back to the event.
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:12] <ericnewton> Thanks guys/gals... having tickets entered with simple reproducible test cases helps a lot... and we do try to chase those down
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:27] <TBKdan> Thanks for your time
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:32] <ericnewton> I'll be chatting w/you all soon again!
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:36] <mrayzenoss> I'll try to get the transcript for this session put up somewhere soon
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:49] <mrayzenoss> in addition to our standard IRC logging
[22-Jul-2008 15:56:58] <mrayzenoss> and we'll try to do these with a little more frequency
[22-Jul-2008 15:57:01] <daMaestro> gah, even with ifHCInOctets and ifHCOutOctets the report graphs don't seem to be rendering :-/
[22-Jul-2008 15:57:46] <daMaestro> it would be very nice if we could inspect more about what the shipped reports use to generate data
[22-Jul-2008 15:58:01] <MAHerron> hey is it possible to run an 'SNMP GET' from within a transform?
[22-Jul-2008 15:58:11] <daMaestro> such /Reports/Performance Reports/Interface Utilization shows data, but i'd like to be able to graph that data on a custom multi-graph report
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:16] <mrayzenoss> Thanks everybody, later
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:30] <MAHerron> waiiiiit
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:34] <MAHerron> pleasse
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:42] <MAHerron> run an 'SNMP GET' from within a transform?
[22-Jul-2008 15:59:45] <MAHerron> possible?
[22-Jul-2008 16:01:00] <daMaestro> intf_ifInOctets seems to not be working, either
[22-Jul-2008 16:01:39] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: I'm not sure. I don't believe I've seen that done
[22-Jul-2008 16:01:56] <MAHerron> fiddlesticks
[22-Jul-2008 16:02:50] <Johnny312> question
[22-Jul-2008 16:02:51] <ckrough> daMaestro: try ifHCInOctets_ifHCInOctets ?
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:23] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: ericnewton says you can probably do it, it might be slow
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:30] <daMaestro> i'll try that now, as i've noticed that Available RRD Variables == None with what i'm trying to do
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:42] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: post it on the forums, I'll try to get it some attention
[22-Jul-2008 16:03:57] <Johnny312> how can i load net snmp module on vmware of zenoss ?
[22-Jul-2008 16:04:10] <daMaestro> Available RRD Variables still == None
[22-Jul-2008 16:04:24] <mrayzenoss> Johnny312: I believe it's already on
[22-Jul-2008 16:04:27] <MAHerron> mrayzenoss: i belive its on there, let me get you a link
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:15] <Johnny312> well then why do get a error about it missing
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:29] <mrayzenoss> Johnny312: is it a 2.2 VM?
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:33] <Johnny312> yes
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:52] <daMaestro> ckrough, http://fpaste.org/paste/3790 is what it's trying to do.. but nothing on the other side
[22-Jul-2008 16:05:58] <MAHerron> mrayzenoss: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6662&highlight=snmp
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:01] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3790 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:18] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - USING SNMP GET (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:45] <jb> anybody here used the "Improved Linux Monitoring" zenpack?
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:51] <jb> wondering what exactly it does..
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:56] <ckrough> daMaestro wh
[22-Jul-2008 16:06:59] <mrayzenoss> MAHerron: I'll get a dev to look at it
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:00] <ckrough> which report is that
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:20] <MAHerron> mrayzenoss: many thanks, much appreciated
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:23] <mrayzenoss> jb: that came from the ZenPacks forum, there are a few people on there who said they were using it
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:24] <daMaestro> ckrough, i'm trying to add a new multi-graph report
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:31] <mrayzenoss> by everybody
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:35] <mrayzenoss> bye that is
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:35] <jb> Ok, I will check..
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:39] <Johnny312> I get a "Can't locate Net/SNMP.pm"
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:54] <daMaestro> Johnny312, you need to install the perl module it seems
[22-Jul-2008 16:07:58] <jb> install Net::SNMP
[22-Jul-2008 16:08:07] <Johnny312> i tried
[22-Jul-2008 16:08:14] <Johnny312> using cpan
[22-Jul-2008 16:08:18] <daMaestro> the vm instance is rpath.. an i don't know how to install stuff
[22-Jul-2008 16:09:34] <Johnny312> yes it is and I can not find the module to load
[22-Jul-2008 16:09:42] <kong> Hello
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:17] <ckrough> daMaestro: are you trying to add a custom CDEF or VDEF to a multigraph?
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:25] <jeld> I have a 2.2 install from an RPM. Events don't seem to be getting event class key, is this a known problem and is there a fix?
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:28] <daMaestro> ckrough, i don't know
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:32] <Johnny312> I tried cpan but can not find make to complete the install
[22-Jul-2008 16:10:58] <kong> I have a problem with zenoos, two services has stopped working. Zenhub and zenjmx. focusin on zenhub and reading de forums i tried to delete de cache file but it didnt work
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:03] <daMaestro> ckrough, i'm attempting to add a new graph for the collection that graphs the interface stats for all the collection
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:21] <daMaestro> ckrough, i'm to the point where i need to add data points for the graph
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:37] <daMaestro> ckrough, i have load/cpu/mem and other custom OIDs graphing
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:41] <kong> any help would be apreciated. thanks
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:44] <daMaestro> but i'd really like to get the interfaces graphed
[22-Jul-2008 16:11:54] <MAHerron> kong: ive had problems where zenmodeler was eating up system resources and caused the hub to hang on multiple occasions... not sure about zenjmx though
[22-Jul-2008 16:12:16] <MAHerron> kong: i commented out zenmodeler in config, and have not seen the hub hang since
[22-Jul-2008 16:12:47] <ckrough> daMaestro: yeah, it iterates throught the datapoints and deals with the "__render_with_namespace__", but you lose access to those individual values in the RPN
[22-Jul-2008 16:13:09] <ckrough> daMaestro I ran into the same limitation trying to create aggregate multigraphs
[22-Jul-2008 16:13:14] <kong> hi HAHerron, i have zenmodeler running and the system is at 4%
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:05] <daMaestro> damnit
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:16] <daMaestro> ckrough, do you know if this is planned to be fixed? or are we just sol?
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:27] <ckrough> daMaestro are you trying to aggregate, or just have one graph per interface?
[22-Jul-2008 16:14:28] <MAHerron> kong: well, hard for me to say then
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:11] <daMaestro> ckrough, currently, just one graph per interface
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:24] <daMaestro> ckrough, i mean: /Reports/Performance Reports/Aggregate Reports net i/o works
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:35] <daMaestro> and it's like.. damnit... i want to do something similar with my custom multigraph reports
[22-Jul-2008 16:15:42] <kong> HAHerron in what file did you commented out zenmodeler?
[22-Jul-2008 16:19:07] <jeld> Hi, all my event class mappings do not work, I think the reason is that no events get event class key set, how do I fix this?
[22-Jul-2008 16:19:24] <kong> both services start but after few seconds they stop. There is no info in the zenhub log
[22-Jul-2008 16:21:51] <mistich> the thing is about zenmodler is if you have zendisc running at the same time zenmodler runs it will chew up your hub
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:04] <mistich> because zendisc uses zenmodler also
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:13] <kong> if i run zenhub service using "run" instead of "start" i can see using the netstat command that there is a service listening in de 8789 port
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:14] <MAHerron> kong: sorry, the file is $zenhome/bin/zenoss
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:20] <jb> ah, i like the Improved Linux Zenpack
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:22] <jb> nice stuff.
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:23] <mistich> so you have 2 zenmodlers running and trying to access the zope databse
[22-Jul-2008 16:22:47] <mistich> JB what does it add
[22-Jul-2008 16:25:52] <jb> detailed CPU/memory graphs
[22-Jul-2008 16:26:55] <kong> I comented out the zenmodeler in the zenoss file, but there is no change. The zenhub service stops after few seconds
[22-Jul-2008 16:27:44] <MAHerron> kong: the process itself stops?
[22-Jul-2008 16:27:49] <kong> yes
[22-Jul-2008 16:28:02] <MAHerron> okay weird
[22-Jul-2008 16:28:09] <kong> it starts but only few secons
[22-Jul-2008 16:28:32] <MAHerron> and then just disappears into the world.. is the pid file still there at all?
[22-Jul-2008 16:31:15] <kong> the process dissapears, There is a pid file in $ZENOSSHOME/var/zenhub-localhost.pid
[22-Jul-2008 16:35:09] <kong> deleting the pid file doesnt work
[22-Jul-2008 16:41:53] <MAHerron> kong: beats me man, perhaps it warrants a forum post
[22-Jul-2008 16:43:45] <kong> MAHerron i will post it in the forum. thanks for your help.
[22-Jul-2008 16:44:01] <kong> good bye
[22-Jul-2008 16:47:01] <mistich> MAHerron did you get it fixed
[22-Jul-2008 16:47:46] <MAHerron> mistich: what was that the snmp get im workin on?
[22-Jul-2008 16:47:55] <MAHerron> or kong's prob?
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:09] <mistich> kongs problem
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:18] <mistich> I guess about zenhub
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:37] <MAHerron> no i think he's going to be posting to the forum
[22-Jul-2008 16:48:52] <MAHerron> seems the process quits on him
[22-Jul-2008 16:49:08] <mistich> oh ok
[22-Jul-2008 16:49:17] <mistich> what problem are you having?
[22-Jul-2008 16:49:34] <MAHerron> me? i just am trying to see if SNMP Get will work in a transform
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:02] <MAHerron> apparently they havnt seen anyone try, so who knows
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:11] <mistich> your tying to do a snmpget in a transform
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:22] <MAHerron> correct5
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:27] <jeld> can someone help me with my event class mapping problem?
[22-Jul-2008 16:50:58] <mistich> the snmget should work as long as your using the python class snmp
[22-Jul-2008 16:51:09] <mistich> jeld what the problem
[22-Jul-2008 16:51:52] <jeld> mistich, mappings do not work, either the default ones or the ones I define
[22-Jul-2008 16:52:12] <mistich> anykind of errors?
[22-Jul-2008 16:52:26] <jeld> mistich, I think this is because event class key doesn't get set anywhere
[22-Jul-2008 16:52:50] <mistich> and when you mean don't work what do you mean by don't work?
[22-Jul-2008 16:53:27] <mistich> a event comes in and it's eventClass is set to unknown
[22-Jul-2008 16:53:39] <jeld> mistich, events do not get mapped to anything besides Unknown
[22-Jul-2008 16:54:02] <mistich> what version are you running
[22-Jul-2008 16:54:50] <jeld> mistich, 2.2 from an RPM
[22-Jul-2008 16:56:40] <mistich> ok can you do this for me
[22-Jul-2008 16:56:47] <mistich> Run zendmd from the command line as the zenoss user
[22-Jul-2008 16:58:19] <mistich> also can you find a class that has a event in it
[22-Jul-2008 16:58:36] <jeld> mistich, OK, I am at the prompt
[22-Jul-2008 16:59:25] <MAHerron> bin/zendmd
[22-Jul-2008 16:59:33] <mistich> yes
[22-Jul-2008 16:59:35] <mistich> sorry
[22-Jul-2008 17:00:36] <jeld> mistich, I have 2 events that got mapped to a class, one from OSprocess and one from snmpperf
[22-Jul-2008 17:01:11] <jeld> mistich, but all the syslog and snmp traps do not get mapped to anything
[22-Jul-2008 17:01:12] <saiber> hello zenoss masters, i have a little issue monitoring windows server, may i ask a question?
[22-Jul-2008 17:01:42] <mistich> ok so syslog and snmp traps are the only things that don't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:02:32] <mistich> or do some events work besides syslog and snmp traps
[22-Jul-2008 17:04:11] <mistich> jeld is it just syslog and snmp traps
[22-Jul-2008 17:04:44] <Johnny312> question about adding a ip service
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:22] <mistich> whats the question and I'll see if I can give it a shot
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:32] <jeld> mistich, I don't know, I have exactly 2 events which are not syslog or snmp trap
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:33] <saiber> eeer no well, the issue is when i add the windows host, it appears thats goes fine
[22-Jul-2008 17:05:45] <saiber> but then i got some info alarm
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:02] <Johnny312> i have a device on the Internet and have it in the device/ping group
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:02] <saiber> that said that the oid for cpu and memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:04] <saiber> are bad
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:07] <mistich> jeld what are the event summary that are not working
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:43] <mistich> johnney what type of device is it?
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:49] <jeld> mistich, how do I get that?
[22-Jul-2008 17:06:53] <Johnny312> game server
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:02] <Johnny312> win2003
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:29] <mistich> does the server have snmpd installed or is this a machine you do not have access to
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:33] <Johnny312> I have not SNMP or acces to the device
[22-Jul-2008 17:07:47] <Johnny312> no access
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:04] <Johnny312> I want to monitor the a udp/tcp port
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:08] <mistich> go to the class Devices/ping
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:18] <mistich> look under templates tab
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:28] <Johnny312> k
[22-Jul-2008 17:08:59] <mistich> you should have a custom Device template you can tell its custom because inder definition Path you should see /Devices/Ping
[22-Jul-2008 17:09:01] <jeld> mistich, ?
[22-Jul-2008 17:09:46] <mistich> Jelid go to the event console and under the event you should see the event and the summary of the event
[22-Jul-2008 17:10:23] <mistich> jeld the 3rd column in the event console
[22-Jul-2008 17:10:48] <mistich> johnny is there a custom template under /devices/ping
[22-Jul-2008 17:10:54] <Johnny312> no
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:05] <mistich> ok thats your problem
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:14] <mistich> do not edit the one that says devices
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:20] <mistich> to fix the issue
[22-Jul-2008 17:11:28] <jeld> mistich, there are all sorts of events there, I have over 1500 events in Unknown
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:09] <mistich> jeld just five me one
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:14] <jeld> mistich, here is a sample one (root) CMD (perl /usr/local/bin/get-crash-stats)
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:37] <jeld> mistich, from what I gather this should get mapped by one of the default rules
[22-Jul-2008 17:12:45] <mistich> nope
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:05] <mistich> syslog does not map by default as far as I know
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:12] <mistich> mine come in as unknown
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:12] <jeld> mistich, here is another one, this one is from snmpd Connection from UDP: [127.0.0.1]:37074
[22-Jul-2008 17:13:45] <mistich> Johnny now add a new template by click the down arrow new template
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:00] <Johnny312> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:03] <mistich> Name it Device
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:37] <mistich> and leave it blank and it will not poll for cpu or memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:38] <Johnny312> there is one Device /Devices/Ping Blank Template.
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:47] <jeld> mistich, there are 2 mappings for cron, one under /App/Log and another under /Ignore they look like they should match those cron entries. I tried to make my own mapping with evt.component == "snmpd" for the rule and that didn't work either
[22-Jul-2008 17:14:59] <mistich> ok well if there is one check to make sure its empty
[22-Jul-2008 17:15:08] <Johnny312> it is
[22-Jul-2008 17:15:28] <mistich> well it should not poll for cpu
[22-Jul-2008 17:15:45] <mistich> jeid lets look at the /Ignore
[22-Jul-2008 17:16:02] <saiber> eeeh mistich, but if u have snmp for the windows server, why it does retrieve a bad oid for cpu or memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:16:49] <jeld> mistich, OK /Events/Ignore/CROND has \(root\) CMD \(run-parts /etc/cron.\S+\) regex
[22-Jul-2008 17:16:49] <mistich> but he does not have access to the snmpd its a game server on the internet
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:04] <saiber> :S what can i do in my case
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:31] <mistich> saiber on min
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:35] <saiber> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:17:52] <jeld> mistich, which will not match the event that I sent but should match this: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly)
[22-Jul-2008 17:18:28] <mistich> Jeld what is your regex set too
[22-Jul-2008 17:18:48] <jeld> mistich, ?
[22-Jul-2008 17:19:09] <jeld> mistich, in my custom mapping? to nothing, I thought the Rule was enough
[22-Jul-2008 17:19:28] <mistich> go to the event such as http://loaclhost:8080/zport/dmd/Events/Syslog/instances/BGP-5-ADJCHANGE_DOWN
[22-Jul-2008 17:19:57] <mistich> from there click edit
[22-Jul-2008 17:20:35] <mistich> for you it would be http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Events/Ignore/CROND/eventClassInstEdit
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:21] <mistich> you there?
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:40] <jeld> mistich, doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:52] <jeld> mistich, hold on, I will just click through
[22-Jul-2008 17:21:58] <mistich> jeld let me show you a example of one I did
[22-Jul-2008 17:22:33] <mistich> example syslog neighbor 10.10.10.10 Down Interface flap or neighbor 10.10.10.10 Down BGP Notification sent
[22-Jul-2008 17:22:46] <mistich> heres the syslog message I get in
[22-Jul-2008 17:22:55] <jeld> mistich, OK, I am on the edit page of the /Events/Ignore/CROND
[22-Jul-2008 17:23:10] <mistich> in the Regex I put ^neighbor \b\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\b Down
[22-Jul-2008 17:23:48] <mistich> every thing else on my page is blank
[22-Jul-2008 17:24:24] <mistich> so for you
[22-Jul-2008 17:24:47] <jeld> mistich, OK, but as I mentioned, there are events that should have matched existing mappings and they do not get mapped. I think there is something wrong with the whole matching mechanism not with any particular mapping
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:19] <mistich> Rule: BLANK
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:19] <mistich> Regex: ^(root) CMD (run-parts
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:38] <mistich> Transform: BLANK
[22-Jul-2008 17:25:41] <jeld> mistich, I do not want to map those CROND messages to /Ignore, but the rule is there from the install and it doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:08] <jeld> mistich, and no matter what I put in my custom mappings it also doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:12] <netdata> Hi Guys
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:20] <netdata> are there still some devs here?
[22-Jul-2008 17:26:28] <mistich> nope there gone
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:07] <netdata> oh damn it's a pitty
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:12] <netdata> does anyone have a log?
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:22] <mistich> nope my client died
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:38] <Johnny312> think i do
[22-Jul-2008 17:27:45] <mistich> but there is a zenoss-logger I think its on zenoss website some where
[22-Jul-2008 17:28:28] <mistich> Jeld sounds like more than a messed up transform put it on the forum and someone else might be able to help you
[22-Jul-2008 17:29:26] <jeld> mistich, I will try to reinstall clean from the installer (as opposed to RPM) and see if that makes it any better, then I guess I will post on the forum
[22-Jul-2008 17:30:15] <Johnny312> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:30:47] <Johnny312> so device/ping templates
[22-Jul-2008 17:31:17] <otakup0pe> so anyone use zenplugin.py
[22-Jul-2008 17:31:27] <otakup0pe> the apache plugin seems to be causing a race condition :3
[22-Jul-2008 17:34:07] <saiber> .... all gome?
[22-Jul-2008 17:34:12] <saiber> gone*
[22-Jul-2008 17:35:09] <netdata> no still here
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:01] <saiber> so does anyone have the issue monitoring windows servers
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:24] <Johnny312> only 2008 ones
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:49] <netdata> I don't use windows servers
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:54] <Johnny312> what issue u having
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:54] <netdata> so I can't help you
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:58] <TBKdan> No issues monitoring 2k3...
[22-Jul-2008 17:37:59] <saiber> well
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:05] <saiber> i have snmp access
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:13] <saiber> and snmpwalk is working
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:17] <Johnny312> ok
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:20] <saiber> when i start monitoring it
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:36] <saiber> i got a bad oid reading alert for cpu andmemory ussage
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:42] <saiber> and i cant get it working
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:47] <TBKdan> Because you're still using snmp informant template
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:48] <saiber> is an windows 2000 server
[22-Jul-2008 17:38:53] <Johnny312> did u load snmp informant ?
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:00] <saiber> errr nou
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:00] <TBKdan> Two choices: 1) remove the template 2) install snmp informant
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:11] <saiber> snmp informant
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:14] <saiber> what is that?
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:19] <TBKdan> I chose to remove the template and use the WMI template to get the same info
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:32] <saiber> heheheh well i cant use wmi
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:33] <TBKdan> It's an extension to the windows snmp stuff... gives some more data like memory
[22-Jul-2008 17:39:38] <saiber> coz i dont admin access to the server
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:10] <saiber> hmmmm
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:14] <saiber> thats sounds interetins
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:15] <TBKdan> If you can deal without the memory/cpu info, it's probably easiest to just delete the informant template
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:39] <saiber> where can i find snmp informant
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:45] <TBKdan> Google
[22-Jul-2008 17:40:54] <saiber> xD
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:14] <saiber> even so great advice man, but one more question
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:18] <Johnny312> a admin will have to install it on the server
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:28] <TBKdan> Yup
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:48] <saiber> if i get same oid error with cisco routerts for the interfaces, but i can monitoring their performance with ip service
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:53] <TBKdan> If it's a 2k box, WMI access is easier to get (don't need admin rights, but it still needs to be configged)
[22-Jul-2008 17:41:56] <netdata> are there enterprise customers here?
[22-Jul-2008 17:42:43] <TBKdan> I've never dealt with cisco snmp, so can't help ya there.
[22-Jul-2008 17:43:11] <magnachef> I have web servers that have an interface for administration and a different interface/IPs for production stuff. Will my IPService tests perform http IPService checks against all IPs?
[22-Jul-2008 17:43:52] <saiber> ok thanxs for the grea advice tbkdan, is it hard to use snmp informant with zenoss??
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:11] <TBKdan> saiber: No, you just install it and off you go.
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:21] <TBKdan> Since you already have snmp installed and working
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:49] <saiber> oohhis like a clear implementation, no config required?
[22-Jul-2008 17:44:59] <mistich> yes one enterprise here?
[22-Jul-2008 17:45:30] <TBKdan> Nope, all it does is add some extra info to snmp (cpu/memory/disk stats)
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:09] <saiber> exellent man thaxs, really great advice, if it work i ll thank you in the forum
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:28] <TBKdan> magnachef: I'm not sure of the default, but if you go and edit the service on the OS page you see the field for "ip addresses"
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:30] <TBKdan> np saiber
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:49] <TBKdan> magnachef: I'm assuming that will do what you want...
[22-Jul-2008 17:46:57] <magnachef> yeah, it found the IPs by default
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:49] <TBKdan> So it sees them, you're just wondering if it's testing across all those ip/port combos?
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:52] <magnachef> I just wanted to make sure it tested against all of them
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:55] <magnachef> yeah
[22-Jul-2008 17:47:55] <TBKdan> wireshark?
[22-Jul-2008 17:48:19] <TBKdan> Probably the easiest and most surefire way to check...
[22-Jul-2008 17:54:31] <magnachef> yeah
[22-Jul-2008 18:58:39] <Shylock> Was there a howto floating around on how to add menu items to the UI?
[22-Jul-2008 19:22:22] <waa> in zenoss install path(/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/) have a lot a mibs, how can use that? I add a cisco router device but Zenoss don't get all info from the device
[22-Jul-2008 19:23:26] <Gamekiller77> waa: you have to upload all the mibs from ciscos website to (/usr/localzenoss/common/share/mibs/site
[22-Jul-2008 19:23:35] <Gamekiller77> it so much fun
[22-Jul-2008 19:24:02] <Gamekiller77> after the upload i notice it has to have the right perms make sure zenoss user has access to them
[22-Jul-2008 19:26:05] <waa> Gamekiller77, I'm trying to use zenmib, if I only copy to site folder it will run?
[22-Jul-2008 19:26:29] <waa> with the correct permisions
[22-Jul-2008 19:27:28] <Gamekiller77> yup
[22-Jul-2008 19:27:38] <Gamekiller77> you may need to find some depent mibs too
[22-Jul-2008 19:28:01] <Gamekiller77> some time you need like RFC1213 or this or that make sure you have them. The cisco site list them all
[22-Jul-2008 19:28:25] <Gamekiller77> i used this http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/netmgmt/cmtk/mibs.shtml
[22-Jul-2008 19:28:39] <adytum-bot^> Title: Network Management Software (at www.cisco.com)
[22-Jul-2008 20:16:17] <davetoo> So how do I prematurely kill a maintenance window?
[22-Jul-2008 20:58:26] <davetoo> feh
[22-Jul-2008 20:58:35] <davetoo> zenmodeler -p option doesn't work
[22-Jul-2008 21:39:25] <davetoo> grr
[22-Jul-2008 21:43:54] <dwang> where can I find the script of this morning' talk?
[22-Jul-2008 21:49:14] <daMaestro> i could post a log if need be
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[23-Jul-2008 09:04:08] <]V[> hi channel
[23-Jul-2008 09:14:49] <]V[> my perf graph
[23-Jul-2008 09:29:27] <]V[> stopped working and gives a lengthy error
[23-Jul-2008 09:29:30] <]V[> any hints ?
[23-Jul-2008 09:29:53] <]V[> googling was a dissapointment so far
[23-Jul-2008 10:09:43] <rad73> anyone had any luck with manually adding snmp v3 devices
[23-Jul-2008 10:09:54] <rad73> for some wierd reason it only seems to work when using discovery
[23-Jul-2008 10:10:18] <rad73> otherwise you get a "no snmp found for ip" error
[23-Jul-2008 10:42:53] <rad73> Looks like the support for snmp v3 in zenoss is broken
[23-Jul-2008 11:26:09] <]V[> this channel is asleep i assume ? :-)
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[23-Jul-2008 13:01:35] * Shylock wakes up
[23-Jul-2008 13:02:03] <Shylock> ]V[: can you confirm that the snmperf daemon is running? Do you have any Heartbeat events?
[23-Jul-2008 13:09:13] * ]V[ checks
[23-Jul-2008 13:10:42] <]V[> zenoss 2454 1 0 Jul17 ? 01:18:01 /usr/lib/zope/bin/python /home/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /home/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf --cycle --daemon
[23-Jul-2008 13:11:05] <]V[> sorry, that's something else obviously
[23-Jul-2008 13:12:13] <Shylock> When you say you get a lengthy error, Do you mean that inside the web portal you get a python stack trace?
[23-Jul-2008 13:15:48] <]V[> euhm... when i click "view error details"i get Type: attributeError Value: Totalblocks traceback (innermost last)
[23-Jul-2008 13:15:57] <]V[> followed by a list of modules
[23-Jul-2008 13:17:03] <]V[> ah here it is : http://pastebin.com/d71489056
[23-Jul-2008 13:17:38] <]V[> you mean heartbeat running on the zenoss box ?
[23-Jul-2008 13:17:49] <]V[> we do run heartbeat on a monitorred system
[23-Jul-2008 13:22:00] <Shylock> Heatbeat events are created when the various zenoss daemons fail to reset a watchdog timer.
[23-Jul-2008 13:22:35] <]V[> ah ok, excuse my noobness :/
[23-Jul-2008 13:22:54] <Shylock> Nothing to excuse. I didn't know what they were until a couple weeks ago.
[23-Jul-2008 13:23:02] <]V[> hehe
[23-Jul-2008 13:23:48] <Shylock> if you are getting tracebacks though, then something is happening when zenoss tries to render the page.
[23-Jul-2008 13:23:53] <]V[> would a restart of zenoss (thus all daemons) fix it (momentarily?)
[23-Jul-2008 13:24:12] <]V[> ah ok, so i have another problem
[23-Jul-2008 13:24:38] <Shylock> Ah
[23-Jul-2008 13:24:38] <Shylock> Ok
[23-Jul-2008 13:25:28] <Shylock> So.. you see the actual error is the last couple lines of that traceback. 'here.totalBlocks * .95' AttributeError: totalBlocks
[23-Jul-2008 13:26:25] <Shylock> Somehow the component you are trying to graph (Probably a filesystem) lost its settings for the number of total blocks it has.
[23-Jul-2008 13:27:05] <Shylock> that sounds like a modeler issue. I'm afraid I don't know /why/ it would happen though.
[23-Jul-2008 13:28:25] <Shylock> You might want to make sure that snmpwalk still works against the server from zenoss.
[23-Jul-2008 13:28:47] <Shylock> If it does, then try remodeling the device.
[23-Jul-2008 13:39:04] <]V[> wow thanks a bunch Shylock . i was really on a dead end
[23-Jul-2008 14:05:32] <]V[> i smell a victory nearby :-)
[23-Jul-2008 14:05:34] <]V[> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14712
[23-Jul-2008 14:05:51] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - binding device and filesystem templates results in error (at community.zenoss.com)
[23-Jul-2008 14:06:03] <]V[> adytum-bot^: v
[23-Jul-2008 14:06:04] <adytum-bot^> ]V[: Error: 'v' is not a valid command.
[23-Jul-2008 14:06:30] <]V[> hehe just curious if it was a gozerbot
[23-Jul-2008 14:14:45] <rad73> Does anyone have any knowledge of how the event mechanism works, from a programming perspective
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:07] <]V[> Thanks a bunch Shylock
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:16] <]V[> the article pasted earlier solved it clean
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:16] <rad73> I've added new collector plugins for the modeler and can display all my data from the new info....
[23-Jul-2008 14:15:35] <rad73> but I'm not clear how I raise events based on the information I've now got
[23-Jul-2008 14:25:21] <Shylock> You want to raise events from inside of which daemon?
[23-Jul-2008 14:25:32] <Shylock> Or is this something comming in asycronously?
[23-Jul-2008 14:27:15] <Shylock> ]V[: No problem, glad I could be of some help.
[23-Jul-2008 14:31:36] <rad73> Shylock maybe I just don't understand how the event mechanism works....
[23-Jul-2008 14:32:17] <rad73> but once I've modelled my collector plugin I want to be able to analyse this data and raise events if something needs attention
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:01] <Shylock> The modelers only run every 12 hours.
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:06] <rad73> ah ok
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:11] <Shylock> So what you probably want is a performance monitor
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:20] <Shylock> (Like the interface graphs)
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:46] <rad73> I think I've seen something about adding a performance monitor without the graph bit
[23-Jul-2008 14:33:48] <Shylock> you don't actually have to graph anything, but you can collect data every polling cycle, and then set thresholds for it.
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:09] <Shylock> They will then automatically raise events when they cross the threshold.
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:12] <rad73> how often is the polling cycle?
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:19] <rad73> or is that the 12 hour thing?
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:20] <Shylock> default is every 5 minutes
[23-Jul-2008 14:34:25] <rad73> ok
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:26] <rad73> is that the zenperfsnmp daemon?
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:35] <Shylock> Yes.
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:42] <rad73> ok cool I'll check the source for it
[23-Jul-2008 14:35:45] <Shylock> You shouldn't have to do any programming per-se
[23-Jul-2008 14:36:09] <rad73> btw we have some critical items that need polling more frequently...
[23-Jul-2008 14:36:13] <Shylock> just perf templates that referance the new modeled vars using TALES expressions.
[23-Jul-2008 14:36:21] <Shylock> Ah...
[23-Jul-2008 14:37:05] <Shylock> Well... then you might have trouble. You can set the polling cycle for /everything/ to be shorter, but to the best of my knowlege you can not set specific items to be polled at different frequencies.
[23-Jul-2008 14:37:48] <rad73> do u think it might be possible to create a 2nd subclassed perfmon daemon that checks only a few things but more regularly?
[23-Jul-2008 14:37:51] <rad73> or something like that
[23-Jul-2008 14:38:31] <Shylock> Yes. Or you can run 2 polling servers on the same hardware... I know that Zenoss has helped some enterprise customers set that up
[23-Jul-2008 14:39:01] <Shylock> So you would have a localhost Collector and a localhost2 collector.. something like that.
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:18] <rad73> ah ok.... so the properties for how often the various collecting for performance monitoring and the modelling is controlled by the settings in the collector?
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:27] <Shylock> yes
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:33] <rad73> oh that's cool
[23-Jul-2008 14:40:44] <Shylock>
[23-Jul-2008 14:41:12] <rad73> so by adding the devices to different collectors I can set up different modelling and perfmon poll frequencies
[23-Jul-2008 14:42:15] <Shylock> For your earlier question on alerts on newly modeled data.. Take a look at the Zenpacks for FTP and HTTP monitoring.
[23-Jul-2008 14:42:41] <rad73> ok thanks Shylock you've been a huge help
[23-Jul-2008 14:43:09] <Shylock> They create new datacollector interfaces that can then monitor new data sources.
[23-Jul-2008 14:43:14] <Shylock> No problem
[23-Jul-2008 14:44:07] <rad73> Oh you mean like a DataCollector/plugin for mapping other data (like other snmp mibs) onto your devices?
[23-Jul-2008 14:46:49] <Shylock> If it is snmp, you just need to type in the correct OIDs into your performance template. Those plugins add new protocols for data collection
[23-Jul-2008 14:47:34] <Shylock> the snmperf daemon doesn't do symbolic lookups. You have to enter .1.3.xxxxxx
[23-Jul-2008 14:48:40] <Shylock> But what it will do is if you have a template named the same as a device component, then it will take the index of each instance of that component and append it to a new performance monitor.
[23-Jul-2008 14:49:21] <Shylock> That way one template will apply to all filesystems, or interfaces. (Interfaces are actually a little more complex in that the system will look for a template named the same as the interface type)
[23-Jul-2008 14:50:44] <rad73> ok I will take a look, sounds just like what I need
[23-Jul-2008 14:50:45] <Shylock> I'm not sure if there is a good example of adding new component types to the device class. There is one in the enterprise version...
[23-Jul-2008 14:51:35] <rad73> Well I've managed to create 2 new snmp data collector plugins, a new sub classed device with different tabs (new and modified originals) and got it all wrapped up in a zenpack
[23-Jul-2008 14:51:45] <rad73> so I'm definitely learning about zenoss
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:22] <Shylock> Ok.
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:28] <Shylock> So more that I have done
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:47] <rad73> If I get the time I hope to write up my experiences
[23-Jul-2008 14:52:56] <rad73> some of it was none trivial to figure out
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:17] <Shylock> I wouldn't mind taking a look at your zenpacks if they are releaseable.
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:28] <Shylock> Wow.. My spelling is awful...
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:52] <rad73> well some of the content is commercial confidential
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:58] <rad73> but I hope to remove that so I can share
[23-Jul-2008 14:53:59] <Shylock> Understood.
[23-Jul-2008 14:54:29] <rad73> I have to document what I did as part of the work so I hope they will let me do it as an open excercise to be shared
[23-Jul-2008 14:54:35] <Shylock> is you company thinking to get the enterprise version of zenoss?
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:07] <Shylock> We did that, and we get pretty good support from them on the programming API.
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:09] <rad73> I very much doubt it, only case would be if we can't do what we want to do without direct help/support
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:26] <rad73> but so far I've figured out everything we need
[23-Jul-2008 14:55:34] <Shylock>
Free is nice too.[23-Jul-2008 14:57:02] <rad73> on the positive side.... I've seen a lot of people asking for the stuff I've done.... so everyone benefits if I get to write it up and post it on the zenoss community wiki
[23-Jul-2008 14:58:43] <Shylock> Absolutely. I've actually got a project to add a new device subclass for Hatteras EFM gear. I need to be able to show all the CPE devices connected to the core unit. An example of how to add tabs for new components would be awsome.
[23-Jul-2008 15:00:39] <rad73> Yeah I'd have found that awesome too about a week and a half ago
[23-Jul-2008 15:00:48] <Shylock> Heh
[23-Jul-2008 15:00:51] <rad73> instead of mostly banging my head against the zenoss wall
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:18] <rad73> ok gotta go
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:21] <Shylock> Unfortunately I don't get to focus on zenoss much. My actual job is network design, not monitorin
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:24] <Shylock> See you
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:29] <rad73> but thanks for ur help
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:30] <rad73>
[23-Jul-2008 15:01:33] <Shylock> No problem
[23-Jul-2008 16:49:17] <MuseHome> just moved to 2.2 and I'm still not getting File System status (Unknown). i can get the info using snmpwalk.
[23-Jul-2008 17:11:44] <MuseHome> So it looks like my /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/BAFS01BR02/os/filesystems/ dirs are empty?
[23-Jul-2008 17:17:11] <MuseHome> Hi
[23-Jul-2008 17:36:29] <MuseHome> is there a way to have zenoss recreate all the filesystems RRD files?
[23-Jul-2008 18:22:06] <MuseHome> Unable to fill collection slots: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): rrdtool.error: illegal attempt to update using time 1216837341 when last update time is 1216944000 (minimum one second step) ]
[23-Jul-2008 18:22:24] <MuseHome> getting this now just adding a new device. what gives?
[23-Jul-2008 18:31:49] <mib_5lkuup> will I be able to capture any more info by installing a syslog server on my windows boxen than with the snmp agent and zenwin?
[23-Jul-2008 18:33:41] <TBKdan> MuseHome: Almost sounds like you went back in time o.O
[23-Jul-2008 18:34:42] <TBKdan> mib_5lkuup: more info as in..? If your windows syslog is just pushing out windows events, it'll be no different than zenwin with WMI.
[23-Jul-2008 18:38:55] <mib_5lkuup> that answers my question
[23-Jul-2008 18:40:45] <MuseHome> i am working on a dev system. i have a 2.1.1 system that i backed up in restored to my dev systems. then i upgraded to 2.2
[23-Jul-2008 18:42:19] <MuseHome> the 2.1.1 install didn't have the filesystem info on it. i was hoping that going to 2.2, i could get it working.
[23-Jul-2008 18:42:36] <mib_5lkuup> when sending syslog to zenoss, should I send *.* or *.debug?
[23-Jul-2008 18:42:50] <mib_5lkuup> docs are different depending on where I look
[23-Jul-2008 19:40:42] <MuseHome> any one know the best way to move from 2.1.1 to 2.2 on a centos 5.1 system using the RPMs. or has anyone used the "zenoss-upgrade-instructions" with sussecfull migration?
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[23-Jul-2008 20:03:18] <netdata> Hi everone
[23-Jul-2008 20:03:23] <netdata> just a question
[23-Jul-2008 20:03:56] <netdata> I someone here from belgium?
[23-Jul-2008 20:12:48] <MuseHome> Help. i just reinstalled on DEV system. and added a server. i get all my stats. but if i use restore from a 2.1.1 install from production. it all seems to go to H3LL.
[23-Jul-2008 20:28:57] <Shylock> MuseHome: Sorry I understand your sequence of events
[23-Jul-2008 20:29:23] <Shylock> I don't understand I mean
[23-Jul-2008 20:29:54] <Shylock> netdata: No sorry, I'm in the U.S.
[23-Jul-2008 20:38:18] <MuseHome> no
[23-Jul-2008 20:38:19] <MuseHome> np
[23-Jul-2008 20:39:11] <MuseHome> Load server with 2.1.1
[23-Jul-2008 20:39:24] <MuseHome> then restore backup from production system.
[23-Jul-2008 20:39:39] <MuseHome> then use rpm -Uhv to upgrade to 2.2.
[23-Jul-2008 20:45:39] <MuseHome> So now that i have my old systems data in the new version(2.2) i need/want to get the filesystem data working. (unknown) but when i try to use model the device it don't add any RRD files.
[23-Jul-2008 21:01:56] <MuseHome> $zenmigrate
[23-Jul-2008 21:01:56] <MuseHome> WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(11683) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED
[23-Jul-2008 21:02:09] <MuseHome> is this because zenoss isn't running?
[23-Jul-2008 21:02:33] <davetoo> zeoctl and zopectl have to be running
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[23-Jul-2008 21:04:21] <MuseHome> is this ok? zenoss install 2.2 -> start zen -> stop zen -> zenrestore --file=x -> start zen -> zenmigrate
[23-Jul-2008 21:10:21] <mib_z0u38y> I'm getting regular zenwin/zeneventlog errors since upgrading to 2.2
[23-Jul-2008 21:10:25] <mib_z0u38y> see http://pastebin.com/d5deea127
[23-Jul-2008 21:52:10] <Neoteric> can I monitor things w/ zenoss w/o using SNMP?
[23-Jul-2008 21:52:38] <MAHerron> supports syslog
[23-Jul-2008 21:54:29] <Neoteric> so there is no agent like program for zenoss?
[23-Jul-2008 21:55:00] <MAHerron> nope
[23-Jul-2008 21:55:03] <Neoteric> or rather... can I configure snmp v3 to do things on far distributed topologies
[23-Jul-2008 21:55:03] <MAHerron> dont think so
[23-Jul-2008 22:14:05] <joseph_> do the stack installers upgrade themselves. for instance from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3?
[23-Jul-2008 22:52:59] <locohost> anyone know where the source of the https check
[23-Jul-2008 22:53:29] <locohost> i want to see if there is a way i can make it --no-check-certificate
[23-Jul-2008 23:45:33] <MuseHome> anyone there that could help with a migation? when do i add zenpacks?
[23-Jul-2008 23:55:30] <MuseHome> anyone there that could help with a migation? when do i add zenpacks?
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[24-Jul-2008 09:35:18] <Ozux> hi,
[24-Jul-2008 09:36:03] <Ozux> any body knows how can I graph Total bandwith Usage of one Server, Switch and ...? I need total monthly ....
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[24-Jul-2008 12:33:02] <MuseHome1> is this ok? zenoss install 2.2 -> start zen -> stop zen -> zenrestore --file=x -> start zen -> zenmigrate
[24-Jul-2008 12:33:29] <MuseHome1> Or do i need to add zen packs in there some where?
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[24-Jul-2008 14:06:05] <MuseHome1> What is the difference between "Native Packages" and "Stack Installers"
[24-Jul-2008 14:21:15] <MuseHome1> What is the difference between "Native Packages" and "Stack Installers"
[24-Jul-2008 14:23:46] <TBKdan> MuseHome1: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=163126&release_id=597291
[24-Jul-2008 14:23:52] <TBKdan> "One-click" installers differ from the native zenoss packages in that all external dependencies are rolled up into the "one-click" installers. You get the entire zenoss "stack" when you use the one-click installers, from the low level MySQL dependencies all the way up through the Zenoss python code. Since everything is included in the one-click installer, Zenoss installation is easier than ever.
[24-Jul-2008 14:24:00] <adytum-bot^> Title: SourceForge.net: Files (at sourceforge.net)
[24-Jul-2008 14:24:44] <MuseHome1> cool thanks.
[24-Jul-2008 14:25:23] <MuseHome1> will yum upgrade the mysql install and other dependencies as they need it?
[24-Jul-2008 14:25:46] <TBKdan> MuseHome1: If you use the stack installer you mean?
[24-Jul-2008 14:25:53] <MuseHome1> yes
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:14] <TBKdan> Dunno. I had better success with native on CentOS 5.2.
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:15] <MuseHome1> for securty updates and ect...
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:36] <MuseHome1> Ok I'll go that route.
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:46] <TBKdan> gl
[24-Jul-2008 14:26:58] <MuseHome1> did you do an upgrade from some ohter install of zenoss? like say 2.1
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:19] <TBKdan> Nope. Fresh install (just started using it recently)
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:30] <MuseHome1> k
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:31] <TBKdan> I just backed up the VM to try the 2.2.3 upgrade...
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:42] <TBKdan> *gulp*
[24-Jul-2008 14:27:47] <MuseHome1> :-)
[24-Jul-2008 14:39:21] <TBKdan> So far everything looks ok... all daemons running..
[24-Jul-2008 14:39:54] <MuseHome1> are you migrating and thing from the old install?
[24-Jul-2008 14:41:21] <TBKdan> I did an in-place upgrade from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3
[24-Jul-2008 14:42:09] <MuseHome1> So you where in 2.2... I'm still trying to get from 2.1.1 to 2.2.
[24-Jul-2008 14:42:25] <TBKdan> Yeah, I started with 2.2.0
[24-Jul-2008 14:50:58] <TBKdan> Hmm... I can't seem to add a device o.O
[24-Jul-2008 14:56:02] <MuseHome1> I've just added a device to my dev install of 2.2.3. wating for the 1st two polls to see something in my graphs.
[24-Jul-2008 15:09:24] <TBKdan> Possible bug... if you have autodiscovery disabled on the network of a device, it will not add the device..
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[24-Jul-2008 17:00:22] <MuseHome1> any ideas why i get this when I'm using a zenmigrate? AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'
[24-Jul-2008 17:08:30] <daMaestro> w00t 2.2.3
[24-Jul-2008 17:08:37] <daMaestro> good work guys
[24-Jul-2008 17:09:34] <daMaestro> does anyone know if there is a 2.1.3 -> 2.2.3 upgrade path?
[24-Jul-2008 17:09:43] <daMaestro> or are we better off rebuilding from the ground up?
[24-Jul-2008 17:10:25] <MuseHome1> I've been looking for the answer to that question for 2 days.
[24-Jul-2008 17:10:54] <MuseHome1> and been fighting with the up grade the hole time.
[24-Jul-2008 17:11:12] <MAHerron> anyone seen an issue with zensyslog stopping inexplicably?
[24-Jul-2008 17:33:03] <ckrough> havent had that happen
[24-Jul-2008 18:03:43] <MAHerron> oops, something else took over the zensyslog port after a server reboot
[24-Jul-2008 18:03:57] <MAHerron> that was why zensyslog daemon woudlnt start
[24-Jul-2008 18:03:59] <MAHerron> word
[24-Jul-2008 18:21:02] <linash> MAHerron, MS Word is using syslog port !!??
[24-Jul-2008 18:23:57] <MAHerron> linash: lol no, microsoft isn't allowed anywhere near my servers
[24-Jul-2008 18:24:22] <linash> I hope so
[24-Jul-2008 19:14:59] <ckrough> why would it not surprise me for MS to a) use a port for Word and b) use a standard port
[24-Jul-2008 19:23:32] <IoNu|z> i see all kind of fixes online.. is there a way to apply them all at once? or something like that?
[24-Jul-2008 19:24:56] <linash> install the new rpm?
[24-Jul-2008 19:26:38] <IoNu|z> like the fix for Last Collection
[24-Jul-2008 19:26:38] <IoNu|z> 1969/12/31 19:00:00.000
[24-Jul-2008 19:27:59] <IoNu|z> you need to add some lines in ModelerService.py
[24-Jul-2008 19:28:20] <IoNu|z> so iw as wondering if there is a way to do all the fixes at once....
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[24-Jul-2008 19:57:03] <IoNu|z> what does pricing per resource mean?
[24-Jul-2008 20:32:55] <MuseHome1> can someone point me to a doc about the localhost-config.pickle?
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[24-Jul-2008 21:37:53] <xanders> hi all, i am having a problem collecting uptime and hard disk info from my servers using zenoss. I can model a server with no errors yet none of this information is collected, wheni use snmpwalk the uptime is reported but not collected, any ideas?
[24-Jul-2008 21:38:49] <daMaestro> xanders, i ran into similar issues
[24-Jul-2008 21:39:04] <daMaestro> xanders, it was a "bug" with the remote snmp-agent.. as best i could tell
[24-Jul-2008 21:39:10] <daMaestro> aka rhel 4.x == fail
[24-Jul-2008 21:39:11] <daMaestro> lol
[24-Jul-2008 21:40:11] <xanders> it happens on all servers windows, linux, solaris. I even isntalled SNMP informant on the windows boxes which was suggested on a forum but made no difference
[24-Jul-2008 21:41:20] <xanders> The weird thing is that it reports the total size of my disks but not the used bytes and free bytes
[24-Jul-2008 21:49:00] <xanders> progress... if i run "zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d hostname" then the uptime and disk information is collected, why will it not do this automatically?
[24-Jul-2008 21:50:48] <daMaestro> xanders, what release?
[24-Jul-2008 21:58:22] <xanders> erm how can i find out?
[24-Jul-2008 22:05:45] <xanders> i also find that the zenperfsnmp service starts when i start the zenoss-stack then terminates straight after
[24-Jul-2008 22:14:30] <daMaestro> ldap_connect_system: Failed to retrieve password from secrets.tdb <---- boooooooooo
[24-Jul-2008 22:14:42] <daMaestro> oops, sorry that was an #openfiler complaint
[24-Jul-2008 22:15:02] <daMaestro> xanders, i dunno.. how did you install zenoss
[24-Jul-2008 22:15:03] <daMaestro> ?
[24-Jul-2008 22:15:55] <xanders> i think i may be onto something, i was getting access denied errors in zenperfsmp logs
[24-Jul-2008 22:16:20] <xanders> i have corrected this and now the service starts and stays running, just doing a model of a device now
[24-Jul-2008 22:25:39] <xanders> no luck still doesn't collect, im starting to think this might not be worth the hassle if i cant even get basic stuff working
[24-Jul-2008 22:39:36] <daMaestro> xanders, what version?
[24-Jul-2008 22:53:02] <xanders> how can i tell which version?
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[24-Jul-2008 23:41:38] <daMaestro> lame. i have the same issue with 2.2.3
[24-Jul-2008 23:44:48] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3497
[24-Jul-2008 23:44:55] <daMaestro> i was really hoping this would be fixed.
[24-Jul-2008 23:44:55] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3497 (ethernetCsmacd Template Failures) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[24-Jul-2008 23:49:25] <daMaestro> gah, and it seems that locking interfaces still doesn't work
[24-Jul-2008 23:49:51] <daMaestro> adding an ip service is b0rked
[24-Jul-2008 23:50:32] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498
[24-Jul-2008 23:50:40] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Adding IP service is broken) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
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[25-Jul-2008 04:19:49] <otakup0pe> ok so i have a host that is generating events under two device classes
[25-Jul-2008 04:19:50] <otakup0pe> for some reason
[25-Jul-2008 04:19:55] <otakup0pe>
[25-Jul-2008 04:20:12] <otakup0pe> it's only in one device class of course
[25-Jul-2008 04:20:23] <otakup0pe> what's the modus operandi here... delete and recreate ?
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[25-Jul-2008 15:06:14] <daMaestro> anyone had *any* success with 2.2.3?
[25-Jul-2008 15:33:40] <daMaestro> gah
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:10] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3497#comment:1 ... so i can manually walk these OIDs
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:24] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3497 (ethernetCsmacd Template Failures) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:25] <daMaestro> however, if zenoss is expecting a 0 index, it's wrong:
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:50] <daMaestro> # snmpwalk -c censored-v2c linuxserver1.tld 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.0
[25-Jul-2008 15:34:50] <daMaestro> 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.0: Unknown Object Identifier (Index out of range: 0 (ifIndex))
[25-Jul-2008 15:47:31] <tnet2> anyone know if there's been any luck in resolving the mysql issues on 64bit systems ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:51:03] <daMaestro> tnet2, what issues?
[25-Jul-2008 15:51:12] * daMaestro is running everything 64bit and has no issues with mysql
[25-Jul-2008 15:54:56] <tnet2> with the stack installer I ran into a bug, apparently maybe an issue with mysql. let ms see if i can find the bug reference
[25-Jul-2008 15:55:54] <daMaestro> ah, i'm using the el5 x86_64 rpm
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:35] <KBA-USA> Hey all
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:43] <daMaestro> anyone know of progress on fixing http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:50] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:50] <tnet2> daMaestro - http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3107
[25-Jul-2008 15:56:58] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3107 (BitRock: 64-bit SuSE 10.3 mysql failure) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:11] <KBA-USA> I am trying to get Zenwin to work, can someone give me a hand?
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:28] <Johnny312> what windows version ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:33] <KBA-USA> Server 2003
[25-Jul-2008 15:57:37] <Johnny312> ok
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:13] <Johnny312> what error u get ?
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:25] <gbkyle> anyone having trouble upgrading on the VMimage?
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:40] <KBA-USA> basically it does not work
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:44] <gbkyle> Wonderful.
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:48] <KBA-USA> i followed the setup guide
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:53] <KBA-USA> no you gbkyle
[25-Jul-2008 15:58:55] <KBA-USA> lol
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:00] <gbkyle> ohh
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:01] <gbkyle> haha
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:14] <KBA-USA> Johnny, after following the setup guide it still shows a red circle and does not grab the information
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:55] <gbkyle> [root@srv-lin-zenoss bin]# conary migrate --interactive group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@ zenoss:core-2.2
[25-Jul-2008 15:59:55] <gbkyle> Error with spec "group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@": Too many ='s
[25-Jul-2008 16:00:04] <gbkyle> straight from the guide.
[25-Jul-2008 16:05:23] <daMaestro> tnet2, ah.. sorry; no idea
[25-Jul-2008 16:07:35] <daMaestro> does anyone know where I can look at the graph definitions for ethernetCsmacd other then just breaking open the source?
[25-Jul-2008 16:07:40] <tnet2> i think i'll try source, since that uses a different mysql
[25-Jul-2008 16:07:48] <daMaestro> ah, there it is
[25-Jul-2008 16:12:04] <daMaestro> gah, has anyone successfully used "ifInOctets_ifInOctets" on a multi-graph report?
[25-Jul-2008 16:26:49] <daMaestro> awesome, i figured it out
[25-Jul-2008 16:27:10] <daMaestro> you can't add the device (being a linux server) you have to actually create a collection that includes the network interfaces you want to graph
[25-Jul-2008 16:27:11] <daMaestro> duh.
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[25-Jul-2008 17:40:58] <jeld> I installed the 2.2.3 from RPM on a RHEL 5.2 system. For some reason the Device List and Events Console screens come up empty, but I have devices and events
[25-Jul-2008 18:13:09] <tnet2> batk later
[25-Jul-2008 18:21:27] <KBA-USA> HEy everyone
[25-Jul-2008 18:21:50] <KBA-USA> I just finished configuring Zenwin, but now I have a red dot labeled WMI
[25-Jul-2008 18:21:54] <KBA-USA> anyone have any ideas?
[25-Jul-2008 18:25:56] <TBKdan> red or orange?
[25-Jul-2008 18:26:16] <TBKdan> In events tab, what does it say failed?
[25-Jul-2008 18:26:59] <KBA-USA> Orange, and the event says..... wmi connection failed: User credentials cannot be used for local connections
[25-Jul-2008 18:31:03] <KBA-USA> any ideas
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:11] <gbkyle> Dont think thats a zenoss issue..
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:16] <gbkyle> google that message
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:24] <adytum-bot^> http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/7/7/114353/7501
[25-Jul-2008 18:36:26] <gbkyle> could be wrong
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:17] <gbkyle> I wanna know why I can't upgrade my VMimage
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:28] <gbkyle> using the conary migrate command from the doc's
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:38] <gbkyle> Error with spec "group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta": Too many ='s
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:39] <gbkyle>
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:43] <jp10558> I'm trying to figure out why one of my command datasources isn't graphing: I get DataTestSource|DataTestPoint=59.00000000000000000000
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:44] <jp10558> as output
[25-Jul-2008 18:37:55] <jp10558> but no graph . . .
[25-Jul-2008 18:43:31] <gbkyle> Can you not do an upgrade from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3 on a VMWare image
[25-Jul-2008 18:52:23] <KBA-USA> WMI bubble is Orange, and the event says..... wmi connection failed: User credentials cannot be used for local connections.......and idea
[25-Jul-2008 20:48:43] <q7joey> i've googled around and can't find any solutions to getting zenoss to correctly create subnets. i've tried changing zdefaultnetworktree with no luck. i don't understand how it can probe a linux box with a /27 network and then zenoss treats it as a /24.
[25-Jul-2008 20:59:46] <q7joey> i'm rereading http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6049 and that seems to sum up my experience with things. it seems odd that something like this would still be so confusing in zenoss...
[25-Jul-2008 21:00:07] <adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Question regarding subnets. (at community.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2008 23:39:27] <johns55> anybody familiar with creating performance graphs?
[25-Jul-2008 23:46:17] <trkemist> anyone here have any issues doing layer 2 or layer 3 in zenoss?
[25-Jul-2008 23:46:20] <trkemist> I can't seem to figure it out
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[26-Jul-2008 04:23:07] <adytum-bot^> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=203
[26-Jul-2008 04:56:57] <lacin_> any body here can help me about ZenOSS installation? What's difference between StackInstaller and Native Stacks? Is MySQL included in Stack packages?
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[26-Jul-2008 13:47:59] <lacin> Any body who tested ZenOSS and SMS?
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[27-Jul-2008 04:41:19] <xpotx> anyone able to help generate a graph using check_ping.. I followed the instructions in the forum and i still do not see a graph
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[27-Jul-2008 12:43:35] <Ozux> hi, how can I send SNMP trap? I just want to test zenoss trap reciving
[27-Jul-2008 13:01:16] <shaharf> you need make a trap
[27-Jul-2008 13:01:52] <shaharf> or with a program or making an event that will send a trap in the snmpd
[27-Jul-2008 13:01:55] <shaharf>
[27-Jul-2008 13:05:42] <MrTux> hi guys
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[27-Jul-2008 15:03:42] <MaximB> hello!
[27-Jul-2008 15:04:29] <MaximB> I have installed the zenoss .rpm on redhat5 and it didn't ask me for password for zenoss , so how can I access zenoss ?
[27-Jul-2008 15:05:32] <MaximB> o cool so the default pass is "zenoss"
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[27-Jul-2008 18:33:52] <meteoroid> hiya folks, i'm pretty familiar with twisted, zope and python and wonder if there are any instructions on installing zenoss when zope, twisted, etc.. are already available.
[27-Jul-2008 18:41:26] <meteoroid> hm, looks like i can set PLATFORM_PYTHON env, that's a start
[27-Jul-2008 18:45:35] <meteoroid> also, is anyone working on using zc.buildout to configure zenoss? could be quite handy. if not, i'd love to help.
[27-Jul-2008 18:52:15] <meteoroid> hm setting PLATFORM_PYTHON didn't really help
[27-Jul-2008 18:52:55] <meteoroid> ah, need to remove the install i think
[27-Jul-2008 18:57:20] <daMaestro> anyone know if there has been any progress on http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 ?
[27-Jul-2008 18:57:27] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[27-Jul-2008 18:57:57] <daMaestro> this bug is pretty much a blocker for me to be able to get my company to switch to zenoss (which would include the enterprise support)
[27-Jul-2008 19:06:46] <meteoroid> daMaestro: do you know anything about installing zenoss into a setup which already has a bunch of the deps it wants to build, esp zope, twisted, python-*, nagios ?
[27-Jul-2008 19:06:58] * meteoroid is fighting with the inst scripts in trunk :-P
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:20] <daMaestro> i've not used the trunk yet
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:27] <daMaestro> only release bits
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:35] <meteoroid> what are you using, and how does it install? i'm not sure that's the problem.
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:46] <daMaestro> and i've just pulled the srpm into our buildsys and pushed it out via our repos
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:53] <meteoroid> the main installer is a 'stack isntaller' which even wants to build its' own mysql.
[27-Jul-2008 19:07:56] <meteoroid> ah, srpm, sure
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:01] * meteoroid is on ubuntu for this install
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:06] <meteoroid> sounds like it will be not too much trouble in rhel
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:17] <daMaestro> ah, i don't use ubuntu for a reason
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:19] <daMaestro> ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:30] <meteoroid> which is .. that it provides more of the dependencies itself?
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:35] <daMaestro> the install scripts are... umm lacking precision
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:49] <daMaestro> you'll likely run into issue with mysql connectivity
[27-Jul-2008 19:08:51] <meteoroid> anyway, ubuntu is our dev sys, because it has a lot of things available as debs, but it has zenoss as this stack installer..
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:01] <daMaestro> the installer expects no passwd on the root account for mysql
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:14] <meteoroid> the stack installer, the 'inst' script form svn allows me to set that via prompts
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:15] <daMaestro> oh, blah.. don't use the stack installer
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:18] <meteoroid> yah
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:19] <meteoroid> i'm past that
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:23] <meteoroid> i want to create a buildout for zenoss
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:29] <daMaestro> oh, a buildout?
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:33] <meteoroid> yeah wouldn't that rawk?
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:37] <daMaestro> that is much different then *anything* ubuntu
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:44] <meteoroid> the build scripts remind me of what i used for plone about a year ago..
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:49] <daMaestro> yeah, buildouts are cool.... for development
[27-Jul-2008 19:09:58] <meteoroid> buildout is a deployment tool, you know?
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:04] <daMaestro> yes, i know
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:14] * daMaestro maintains plone/zope/compat-python2.4 for fedora/epel/rhel
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:15] <daMaestro> ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:22] <daMaestro> buildouts++ # hot shit
[27-Jul-2008 19:10:51] <meteoroid> what is that?
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:03] * meteoroid just got on rhel5 which has python2.4 in system, only about ten years late.
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:15] <daMaestro> i made sure to talk shit to redhat because they are dropping python 2.4 support (this is an unofficial statement extrapolated from the fact that fedora does not have python < 2.5 anymore, without my compat packages)
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:26] <meteoroid> ah ok
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:29] <meteoroid> so for future
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:41] <daMaestro> well.. zope 2 is *just starting* to support python 2.5
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:46] <meteoroid> of course
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:51] <daMaestro> z3 does, but i doubt zenoss will ever run on z3
[27-Jul-2008 19:11:57] <daMaestro> not without a full rewrite
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:06] <meteoroid> i often install a zope-dedicated python from source, and then use virtualenv for each buildout, in production..
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:21] <daMaestro> yeah, i packaged virtenv for fedora, it's neato
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:21] <meteoroid> full rewrite is doubtful. does it even use CMF?
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:36] <meteoroid> does that rpm work on rhel? i'd fricking *love* a virtualenv rpm
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:51] <daMaestro> i'd likely have to pull it out of my git repo for you
[27-Jul-2008 19:12:57] <daMaestro> if you really want it, i can push it to epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:08] <daMaestro> http://gify.us/epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:17] <daMaestro> damnit
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:21] <daMaestro> http://giyf.us/epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:41] <daMaestro> i own the domain and i can't type it right
[27-Jul-2008 19:13:58] <meteoroid> this looks like we should be using it for sure
[27-Jul-2008 19:14:31] * meteoroid installs epel
[27-Jul-2008 19:14:40] <daMaestro> yeah, i plan on updating the plone package some time today
[27-Jul-2008 19:14:49] <daMaestro> so i can close the 3.1.2 bug sitting in bugzilla
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:24] <meteoroid> one issue that i have with using packages for plone and zope is that it's tough to roll back.
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:33] <daMaestro> yes, it is
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:38] <meteoroid> i run a script at the end of buildout which archives parts/
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:41] <daMaestro> the packages are very basic, also
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:49] <meteoroid> but probably useful to a lot of people
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:51] <daMaestro> just a standalone instance
[27-Jul-2008 19:15:59] <meteoroid> i've made a good few bucks migrating people away from plone installers of all shapes and sizes
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:02] <daMaestro> yea, anyone that is serious would use buildouts + zeo
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:12] <meteoroid> buildout has some shortcomings as well but it does the trick for now
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:35] <meteoroid> and, yeh, hopefully i will set up a buildout for zenoss in svn.vongogo.net soon
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:43] <meteoroid> at least for testing / experimentation
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:53] <meteoroid> hopefully that would be helpful to the community
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:54] <daMaestro> does zenoss publish recipes?
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:58] <meteoroid> and i have a new gig who uses zenoss
[27-Jul-2008 19:16:59] <meteoroid> no but i'll just sort it out
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:05] <daMaestro> cool
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:13] <meteoroid> i already have a buildout which deals with mysql and all this stuff
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:21] <meteoroid> kind of curious what zenoss is patching into the python-mysql libs as well
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:26] <daMaestro> if i could clone a buildout, i'd likely fix all the bugs i ruun into
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:31] <meteoroid> i just saw all these hunk succeeded
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:38] <meteoroid> yeah i'd be glad to share access
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:46] * daMaestro only uses git, though
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:49] <daMaestro> just as a warning
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:53] <daMaestro> everything else is a waste of my time
[27-Jul-2008 19:17:55] <meteoroid> heh
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:03] <meteoroid> it's not cross-platform, doesn't work for the type of collab that i do
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:08] <meteoroid> but i'm looking to ditch svn for mercurial or bzr
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:14] * meteoroid misses bitkeeper, wishes it had been f/oss
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:23] <daMaestro> yeah, bitkeeper is not bad
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:24] <meteoroid> oh, SCCS, where are you!?!
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:26] <daMaestro> but not foss
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:34] <daMaestro> bzr is neat, mc too
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:46] <meteoroid> i liked having like 50 checkouts of something a couple hundred meg in size, using way under a gig
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:51] <daMaestro> i just have a love affair with git and keep everything in it
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:53] <meteoroid> i think bzr and mc can do that
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:53] <meteoroid> yah
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:55] <meteoroid> i hear that
[27-Jul-2008 19:18:59] <daMaestro> including all my specs, patches, etc
[27-Jul-2008 19:19:00] <meteoroid> it's very simple
[27-Jul-2008 19:19:15] * daMaestro has to maintain 5 branches for a given spec
[27-Jul-2008 19:19:30] <daMaestro> there are zero other tools for doing that and maintaining sanity
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:00] <meteoroid> i'm not sure about that, but i imagine it's not easy
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:09] <meteoroid> i mean, with bk i really did often have 50 active branches on my workstation
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:18] <daMaestro> yup
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:31] <meteoroid> part of it was the nice merge tool, which meld replaces nicely
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:34] <meteoroid> well, kind of ;d
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:40] <meteoroid> at least it isn't tk, that ui was pain
[27-Jul-2008 19:20:56] <daMaestro> yeah, i've not had to do too massive of melds with git yet
[27-Jul-2008 19:21:07] <daMaestro> but i've never ran into anything that was not a breeze yet either
[27-Jul-2008 19:23:41] <daMaestro> cool, thresholds are easy to setup
[27-Jul-2008 19:23:55] * daMaestro just got alerted that a webserver (out of the load) is no longer serving downloads :-D
[27-Jul-2008 19:37:53] <meteoroid> yay
[27-Jul-2008 19:37:57] <meteoroid> well, i mean, yay for knowing
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:14] <meteoroid> daMaestro: if you are interested, my buildout is taking shape here: http://dev.vongogo.net/svn/deploy/buildout/zenoss/trunk/development
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:26] <meteoroid> i imagine i may have to specify older versions for some packages, but am just keeping it simple for now
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:28] <daMaestro> thanks, bookmarked
[27-Jul-2008 20:09:34] <adytum-bot^> Title: Revision 562: /buildout/zenoss/trunk/development (at dev.vongogo.net)
[27-Jul-2008 20:10:20] <meteoroid> still trying to get it to run, not quite a sufficient environment but i can maybe slim down the install scripts to handle dependencies only when needed.
[27-Jul-2008 20:10:46] <meteoroid> probably some reusable stuff as we have some system-level deps for our plone setup, things like document converters for word and pdf.. be nice to have them scripted.
[27-Jul-2008 20:12:06] <meteoroid> eek! zope 2.8.8 and an explicitly installed Five 1.2! wow.
[27-Jul-2008 20:12:25] <meteoroid> i had some stability issues with zope 2.8 on acm.org for a while :/
[27-Jul-2008 21:30:46] <meteoroid> so, hm, my zenoss install.sh is dying on nagios..
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[27-Jul-2008 21:35:17] <meteoroid> er, nagios plugins, that is..
[27-Jul-2008 21:36:30] <meteoroid> aclark: know anything about a sane way to install zenoss from svn without the shell script?
[27-Jul-2008 21:36:42] <meteoroid> it's quite insistent on building a lot of stuff from source that i already have
[27-Jul-2008 21:37:40] * meteoroid is working on a buildout for zenoss
[27-Jul-2008 21:37:41] <aclark> meteoroid: no, i'm mostly just lurking here :-)
[27-Jul-2008 21:37:44] <meteoroid> hah
[27-Jul-2008 21:50:23] <meteoroid> daMaestro: installing epel broke yum on my rhel5 :/
[27-Jul-2008 21:51:15] <daMaestro> how so? how about the full yum output?
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:40] <aclark> daMaestro!
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:45] <daMaestro> aclark!
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:46] <daMaestro> ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:56] <daMaestro> aclark, how goes it?
[27-Jul-2008 22:10:56] * aclark sees some familiar faces ;-)
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:00] <aclark> daMaestro: good, you?
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:04] <daMaestro> aclark, good.
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:27] <daMaestro> looking at using zenoss (due to my love affair with plone) for monitoring
[27-Jul-2008 22:11:53] <daMaestro> and it's something i can actually contribute to and fix bugs for (and not hate hacking on)
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:03] <daMaestro> i like that meteoroid is working on a buildout
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:05] <aclark> daMaestro: heh, who could blame you? they are sponsoring the conference this year! :-)
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:10] <daMaestro> really? nice.
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:34] <aclark> daMaestro: http://plone.org/events/conferences/2008-washington-dc
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:43] <daMaestro> i always haggle the poor sales people @ the redhat summit with technical/technology complaints/questions
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:49] <meteoroid> daMaestro: it doesn't output anything at all
[27-Jul-2008 22:12:50] <meteoroid> it just hangs
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:00] <meteoroid> if i ctrl-c it throws some buffered output or something
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:04] <aclark> daMaestro: hah
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:06] <meteoroid> cant deal with this now stupid mysql server crashed
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:09] <aclark> yeah a buildout for zenoss would be hot
[27-Jul-2008 22:13:45] <daMaestro> aclark, i'm trying to get one of them to explain to me what the plan is regarding zope and python 2.5 support
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:00] <daMaestro> aka.. how dedicated is their company to making zenoss continue to work upstream
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:07] <daMaestro> and what are their plan when rhel6 comes out
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:24] <daMaestro> considering they are in the RHX and fedora no longer has python 2.4 support....
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:27] <aclark> daMaestro: right, i imagine pretty dedicated... there are some GSOC kids working on it i think?
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:37] <aclark> right
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:38] <daMaestro> yeah, iirc there is
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:55] <daMaestro> z3 will do py2.5 but the last release of z2 still doesn't run on 2.5
[27-Jul-2008 22:14:58] <aclark> i mean, they could ship without OS support of Python 2.4, can't they?
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:09] <daMaestro> yes, they can
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:11] <aclark> correct
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:16] <daMaestro> it's almost what i did with fedora
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:24] <daMaestro> but it was banned due to fedora policy
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:31] <daMaestro> so i stuck python 2.4 compat packages @ livna
[27-Jul-2008 22:15:49] <aclark> ah
[27-Jul-2008 22:29:25] <meteoroid> hm, now she fails on wmi-build :/
[27-Jul-2008 22:58:16] <meteoroid> another thing ubuntu provides.
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[28-Jul-2008 00:12:04] <meteoroid> neato, ZenPacks are basically dev eggs to buildout. methinks there are some Makefiles which wouldn't be necessary with buildout, though it seems they are useful to rpm
[28-Jul-2008 01:12:14] <aclark> meteoroid: go go go
[28-Jul-2008 01:15:08] <meteoroid> now maven is involved, this is *so* relevant to my new gig ;d
[28-Jul-2008 01:16:34] <meteoroid> hm, ZenJMX is not pleased.
[28-Jul-2008 01:17:07] <meteoroid> will come back to that later
[28-Jul-2008 01:19:15] <meteoroid> aclark: http://dev.vongogo.net/svn/deploy/buildout/zenoss/trunk/development
[28-Jul-2008 01:19:35] <adytum-bot^> Title: Revision 566: /buildout/zenoss/trunk/development (at dev.vongogo.net)
[28-Jul-2008 01:19:53] <aclark> meteoroid: nice thanks
[28-Jul-2008 01:47:09] <meteoroid> one bit at a time, coming together pretty nicely
[28-Jul-2008 01:47:22] <meteoroid> the buildout runs except for ZenJMX
[28-Jul-2008 01:47:30] <meteoroid> which is something to do with my box i think
[28-Jul-2008 01:49:07] <meteoroid> the problem there is something to do with a java build, and i just started working for someone who uses zenoss to monitor a java app, and am working on their deploy scripts
[28-Jul-2008 01:49:18] <meteoroid> i am thinking of writing a buildout recipe for building tomcat instances with maven
[28-Jul-2008 01:50:05] <meteoroid> we have like five instances of tomcat on each machine, because there is a deadlock somewhere, and, whatever, that's the brute force way they've come up with, so it seems logical to share the code in a buildout recipe, have a few instance sin parts/ just like would be the case with zope
[28-Jul-2008 01:50:22] <meteoroid> and lo and behold ZenJMX has some kind of python code for interacting with maven, at least a starter, so i'll probably go in that direction
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[28-Jul-2008 05:15:35] <meteoroid> well, hm, many of the daemons are about to start, things are not entirely in good shape yet but it's progres...
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[28-Jul-2008 10:56:16] <tarjei> hi, I'm trying to use check_http to monitor multiple sites with the same IP, but zenoss says: sendto error Host xxx and xxx are both using ip. How do I get around this?
[28-Jul-2008 12:14:11] <MaximB> hello
[28-Jul-2008 12:14:21] <MaximB> anyone can help me out ?
[28-Jul-2008 12:15:22] <MaximB> I got this error "localhost||/Status/Ping||5|127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1" how do I settle it out ?
[28-Jul-2008 12:21:34] <MaximB> anyone ?
[28-Jul-2008 12:30:36] <tarjei> MaximB: how have you setup your /etc/hosts file?
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> root@mldev11 ~]# cat /etc/hosts
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> # that require network functionality will fail.
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mldev11
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:45] <MaximB> 10.10.100.222 mldev11
[28-Jul-2008 12:31:47] <MaximB> 127.0.0.50 HostNameOfSecondHost
[28-Jul-2008 12:38:37] <linash> MaximB, just keep 'localhost' from the hostnames in
[28-Jul-2008 12:38:38] <linash> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mldev11
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[28-Jul-2008 13:07:24] <MaximB> thanks
[28-Jul-2008 13:48:52] <rad73> does anyone know if it's possible to use the perfmon to handle oid's that map to a column? or does the perfmon have to work with an oid that is a single value?
[28-Jul-2008 13:50:15] <zenoss_newbie> hi folks
[28-Jul-2008 14:25:54] <rad73> how often are the os processes and ip services checked in zenoss?
[28-Jul-2008 14:26:07] <rad73> because it seems that nothing gets populated until I model the device
[28-Jul-2008 14:26:27] <rad73> and I definitely need to know if the HTTP server goes down before then
[28-Jul-2008 14:29:54] <Bulwinkle> rad73: they are modeled based on the settings you have
[28-Jul-2008 14:30:11] <Bulwinkle> rad73: the services should be checked every 5 minutes by default
[28-Jul-2008 14:31:03] <rad73> Bulwinkle: thanks, do you know what zenoss component performs the service checking? is it part of the performance monitoring?
[28-Jul-2008 14:31:21] <Bulwinkle> hmmmm, probably now
[28-Jul-2008 14:32:05] <Bulwinkle> rad73: probably in the documentation somewhere
[28-Jul-2008 14:32:18] <Bulwinkle> -now+not
[28-Jul-2008 15:32:21] <zenoss_newbie> anyone know where the mysql password for the user 'zenoss' is stored ?
[28-Jul-2008 15:52:11] <gbkyle> anybody know the proper way to upgrade a VMImage from 2.2.0 to 2.2.3?
[28-Jul-2008 16:38:28] <TBKdan> zenoss_newbie: To change it or to see what it is?
[28-Jul-2008 16:38:59] <TBKdan> gbkyle: I always just used the rAA (web based admin) to update, but I never tried it for the 2.2.3 update (I have since built my own CentOS VM)
[28-Jul-2008 16:48:11] <daMaestro> wow.. super fail
[28-Jul-2008 16:48:27] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/4049
[28-Jul-2008 16:48:36] <adytum-bot^> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #4049 (at fpaste.org)
[28-Jul-2008 16:50:02] <daMaestro> looks like i have to clear the cache file
[28-Jul-2008 17:15:29] <daMaestro> anyone heard of progress on the ipservice manual addition bug?
[28-Jul-2008 17:15:46] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498
[28-Jul-2008 17:15:53] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[28-Jul-2008 17:21:30] <gbkyle> TBKdan: what port does the rAA run on again
[28-Jul-2008 17:22:42] <gbkyle> Ahh 8003.
[28-Jul-2008 17:52:55] <gbkyle> I don't understand this.. I can't delete any devices from my device list
[28-Jul-2008 17:53:01] <gbkyle> This bug was supposed to be fixed in 2.2.3
[28-Jul-2008 19:22:27] <TBKdan> gbkyle: I can delete just fine through device list on 2.2.3....
[28-Jul-2008 19:25:24] <gbkyle> Weird, I get an error.
[28-Jul-2008 19:25:30] <gbkyle> and saw it on buglist
[28-Jul-2008 19:25:34] <gbkyle> same error
[28-Jul-2008 19:26:13] <TBKdan> What error?
[28-Jul-2008 20:03:35] <gbkyle> TBKdan: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'deleteDevice'
[28-Jul-2008 20:04:00] <TBKdan> What browser?
[28-Jul-2008 20:04:06] <TBKdan> Or does it not matter?
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:07] <gbkyle> uh, IE
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:15] <gbkyle> I guess i could try firefox
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:20] <gbkyle> Gotta install it tho
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:23] <TBKdan> IE6?
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:48] <gbkyle> 7.
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:55] <TBKdan> k, lemme try that here
[28-Jul-2008 20:05:58] <gbkyle> Ok
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:05] <TBKdan> Worked fine for me...
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:13] <gbkyle> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3469
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:19] <TBKdan> Just saying
[28-Jul-2008 20:07:21] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3469 (Handle case delete device without perf collector and don't allow duplicate manage ips) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:15] <gbkyle> ;
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:16] <gbkyle>
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:20] <gbkyle> thanks for tryin
[28-Jul-2008 20:08:36] <gbkyle> tryin to delete a list of 100 devices
[28-Jul-2008 20:10:49] <gbkyle> I will try more tomorrow
[28-Jul-2008 20:10:54] <gbkyle> thanks.
[28-Jul-2008 21:02:34] <crow_> what is passed to collectors during a config cycle?
[28-Jul-2008 21:32:01] <meteoroid> so, i'm still having trouble installing zenoss from the repo, it gets frustrated with 'msi' or somesuch microsoft deal, possibly the last plugin
[28-Jul-2008 21:32:10] <meteoroid> and the JMX plugin fails to build
[28-Jul-2008 21:32:23] <meteoroid> is trunk/ the latest stable, or should i grab a tarball? instructions on the website in more than one place imply there isn't much diff
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[29-Jul-2008 01:43:15] <kamelion10001> Hey all -- anybody free to assist with a WMI monitoring question?
[29-Jul-2008 02:48:57] <meteoroid> anyone else notice the 'integrating with buildbot' section of the zenoss dev guide is blank?
16.1 under unit tests[29-Jul-2008 04:01:29] <ozysimpson> Thank god you are on IRC
[29-Jul-2008 04:02:37] <ozysimpson> I have just installed Zenoss on centos and i am trying to access control panel using the ip address of the machine followed by :8080 but all i can see is zope configuration rather than zenoss
[29-Jul-2008 04:02:54] <ozysimpson> could some one please help me with this many thanks in advance
[29-Jul-2008 04:15:00] <ozysimpson> I hope atleast some one will answer me please
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[29-Jul-2008 06:16:44] <ozysimpson> To my previous question about zenoss, i managed to reinstall zenoss and now it works like a dream many thanks to all
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[29-Jul-2008 14:24:36] <EekZ`> hi
[29-Jul-2008 14:25:04] <EekZ`> anyone here monitoring Windows 200 boxes?
[29-Jul-2008 14:27:06] <EekZ`> 2000
[29-Jul-2008 14:29:35] <jp10558> Hey - what does Zenoss do with syslog messages forwarded to it?
[29-Jul-2008 14:29:47] <jp10558> I seem to remember they are added as events?
[29-Jul-2008 14:39:47] <]V[> lol ... my Zenoss box reports that one of the servers is not running the process called "VIM"
[29-Jul-2008 14:40:06] <]V[> guess the box is writing a book or something :-)
[29-Jul-2008 14:43:13] <jp10558> You must have said to monitor that process
[29-Jul-2008 14:43:20] <jp10558> either globally or for that computer
[29-Jul-2008 14:51:04] <]V[> that must have been by accident.. but i cannot find anything under OS -> OS Processes
[29-Jul-2008 14:51:40] <]V[> i can rule out globally, the others would have given the same error.
[29-Jul-2008 15:06:07] <jp10558> Anyone know which MIBS I need to translate traps from Cisco aironet 1100 access points?
[29-Jul-2008 15:48:46] <monrad> anyone seen ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.DeadReferenceError: Calling Stale Broker
[29-Jul-2008 15:48:49] <monrad> ]
[29-Jul-2008 15:49:14] <monrad> i just upgradede from 2.1.3 to 2.2.3 and zenperfsnmp keeps giving me these errors
[29-Jul-2008 16:09:52] <monrad> damn, rollback, 2.2 looked nice but did not work :/
[29-Jul-2008 16:25:00] <jp10558> is there a bug in 2.1.2 for mapping events?
[29-Jul-2008 16:43:46] <MrCerulean> Good morning. Can somebody tell me how to ignore a service on a specific interface?
[29-Jul-2008 16:44:02] <MrCerulean> For example, I'm monitoring http on a system and Zenoss is trying on all interfaces.
[29-Jul-2008 16:44:16] <MrCerulean> But I don't want to know about the interface that the Zenoss machine cannot reach.
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[30-Jul-2008 03:47:34] <Guest11698> hello?
[30-Jul-2008 03:47:53] <Guest11698> anybody home?
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[30-Jul-2008 09:12:42] <schojo> hello?
[30-Jul-2008 09:13:04] <schojo> i've got a serious MIB problem
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[30-Jul-2008 12:35:41] <aurax> hello
[30-Jul-2008 12:36:12] <aurax> i'm having problems with zenoss not updating ip address (not lookup the hostname to find it's new ip) i have over 70 servers dhcp'd that changes ip constantly. any idea how to workaround this issue?
[30-Jul-2008 12:37:26] <tarjei> aurax: is it possible to link each server against a single ip permanently through dhcp? That's how I use dhcp with servers.
[30-Jul-2008 12:37:44] <aurax> too much hassle with the dhcpd...
[30-Jul-2008 12:37:58] <aurax> zenoss suppose to resolve hostname and update the ip addr, no?
[30-Jul-2008 12:38:02] <tarjei> schojo : you need to state your problem if you are going to get any help
[30-Jul-2008 12:38:27] <tarjei> aurax: I do not think so. Which dhcp server are you using?
[30-Jul-2008 12:40:33] <aurax> m$
[30-Jul-2008 12:41:08] <TBKdan> As far as I know, zenoss looks up the IP address on device creation, then just uses that..
[30-Jul-2008 12:41:14] <jp10558> I think the lookup might only happen on re-model
[30-Jul-2008 12:41:26] <jp10558> does it ever update, say every 6 hrs or 12 hrs?
[30-Jul-2008 12:42:26] <jp10558> I only have Static IPs so I don't know when, if ever after creation, Zenoss might do DNS again.
[30-Jul-2008 12:43:48] <aurax> it suppose to resolve..
[30-Jul-2008 12:46:29] <aurax> and update the device
[30-Jul-2008 12:46:59] <TBKdan> Lemme test this with a force remodel... one sec
[30-Jul-2008 12:47:28] <aurax> thx
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:21] <TBKdan> Still modeling but it may have
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:25] <aurax> there's a way when you choose 'change ip' to leave it empty and use dns
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:28] <TBKdan> No
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:37] <aurax> but it will write down the ip
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:42] <aurax> and will use the new one...
[30-Jul-2008 12:48:56] <TBKdan> So maybe...
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:08] <TBKdan> Have a command that runs every so often to reset the IP entry
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:12] <TBKdan> It does not update it on a model
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:30] <jp10558> But I would guess you could use zenmd to update as TBKdan said
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:38] <jp10558> run a cron job?
[30-Jul-2008 12:49:41] <aurax> hmm
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:01] <jp10558> nslookup, grep, zenmd ...
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:14] <jp10558> How often does the IP change?
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:17] <TBKdan> Or if the device is down
[30-Jul-2008 12:50:53] <TBKdan> Why not set longer lease times on the DHCP server so that unless the device is down for longer than a day, it'll keep it's lease (and therefore the same IP)?
[30-Jul-2008 12:51:24] <aurax> thouht about it as well
[30-Jul-2008 12:51:40] <aurax> but i want to be safe that it's update my servers.. even if the ip's doesnt change often
[30-Jul-2008 12:51:58] <jp10558> Bug report or feature request?
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:01] <aurax> bug
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:05] <aurax> it suppose to resolve
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:11] <TBKdan> Upon creation.
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:17] <jp10558> Post it in zenoss/submit bug
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:20] <aurax> suppose to ask on creation...
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:24] <aurax> dhcp or ip ?
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:26] <aurax> bleh
[30-Jul-2008 12:52:39] <TBKdan> Most servers have static IPs, so I would say this is a feature request
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:31] <aurax> those are vmwares
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:36] <jp10558> I agree iwth TBKdan - feature request
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:41] <jp10558> But worth updating
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:44] <jp10558> err, posting
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:47] <aurax> yeah
[30-Jul-2008 12:53:57] <TBKdan> Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad feature
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[30-Jul-2008 15:05:13] <MrCerulean> Can anybody tell me how to ignore service checks on a specific interface?
[30-Jul-2008 15:36:01] <pber> I'm getting constant zenwin, zeneventlog, zenmodeler heartbeat failures
[30-Jul-2008 15:36:15] <pber> using v2.2.3
[30-Jul-2008 15:36:46] <pber> according to the daemons tab, all the services are running
[30-Jul-2008 15:38:08] <pber> I see this error in the zenwin logs: http://dpaste.com/68451/
[30-Jul-2008 15:38:16] <adytum-bot^> Title: dpaste: #68451 (at dpaste.com)
[30-Jul-2008 15:38:20] <pber> any thoughts on how to fix this?
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[30-Jul-2008 20:30:58] <anervoustwitch> i installed zenoss this morning for the first time, and it appears that every time i restart the service or perform a full discovery on my subnet, the switch i have the zenoss machine connected to crashes and requires a reboot. has anyone heard of something similar happening?
[30-Jul-2008 20:59:02] <daMaestro> anyone have a workaround or comments about
[30-Jul-2008 20:59:03] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498
[30-Jul-2008 20:59:10] <adytum-bot^> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[30-Jul-2008 21:26:45] <monrad> i got myself a test server with 2.2.3 today
[30-Jul-2008 21:27:24] <monrad> and found that it thinks my 10g interfaces are 1.410gbit and i cant add devices from an subnet where autodiscovery is off
[30-Jul-2008 21:49:57] <kgoedtel> weird
[30-Jul-2008 21:50:04] <kgoedtel> i have neither of those problems :|
[30-Jul-2008 21:59:54] <monrad> i found a post in the forum about the secound issue
[30-Jul-2008 22:00:06] <monrad> this is a clean debian stack install
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[31-Jul-2008 06:22:43] <Ozux> I have question! but the way I will ask is a little dummy, so sorry!!
[31-Jul-2008 06:23:05] <Ozux> How can I add graphs to dashboard? Like this: http://i33.tinypic.com/2pycjma.jpg
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[31-Jul-2008 08:57:24] <sekas_> Hey, im looking to automate a reclassification of a device i monitor, but now want moved to our un-monitored class.. Is there any easy way to do this from the cli?
[31-Jul-2008 08:59:19] <sekas_> Guessing the easyest way would be trough zope, but i cant find a good source on information how to query the ZODB
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[31-Jul-2008 11:14:47] <ggg333> hi... is there a inidividual plugin available to monitor tomcat?
[31-Jul-2008 11:18:31] <ggg333> in linux specifically
[31-Jul-2008 11:41:36] <EekZ`> apache zenpack?
[31-Jul-2008 12:58:37] <KBA-USA> I am trying to change the collector to use TCP rather than UDP for my firewalls, anyone help me do this?
[31-Jul-2008 12:59:21] <KBA-USA> anyone?
[31-Jul-2008 13:01:56] <KBA-USA> I am trying to config zenoss to gather snmp information from my firewalls, I need to get zenoss to use TCP/161 instead of UDP/161. does anyone know how I can achieve this?
[31-Jul-2008 13:08:16] <TBKDan> Be patient, not everybody watches this channel every minute of the day
[31-Jul-2008 13:14:44] <KBA-USA> yeah, i know, just been trying to do this for over a week and starting to get frustrated
[31-Jul-2008 13:58:37] <jb> anyone done 2.2.0 -> 2.2.3?
[31-Jul-2008 13:58:52] <TBKDan> Yup
[31-Jul-2008 13:58:55] <TBKDan> On CentOS RPM
[31-Jul-2008 13:59:11] <TBKDan> Went fine for me
[31-Jul-2008 13:59:30] <jb> ok.. not the stack installer?
[31-Jul-2008 14:00:22] <TBKDan> no, I didn't like that one
[31-Jul-2008 14:00:29] <TBKDan> VM snapshots ftw
[31-Jul-2008 14:00:41] <jb> heh yeah
[31-Jul-2008 14:03:04] <jb> no upgrade docs..
[31-Jul-2008 14:24:43] <TBKDan> There are, you just need to dig a bit
[31-Jul-2008 14:28:53] <zenoss_newbie> i havent found those either
[31-Jul-2008 14:30:02] <TBKDan> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[31-Jul-2008 14:30:19] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Jul-2008 14:31:39] <TBKDan> For future notice: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/upgrading-zenoss
[31-Jul-2008 14:31:53] <adytum-bot^> Title: Upgrading Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[31-Jul-2008 14:46:57] <jb> TBKDan: thats from 2.1 -> 2.2
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:00] <jb> not 2.2 -> 2.23
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:02] <jb> 2.2.3
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:15] <TBKDan> That's the guide that I used for 2.2 to 2.2.3 and it worked fine for me.
[31-Jul-2008 14:47:28] <jb> it doesn't even mention the stack installers
[31-Jul-2008 14:50:37] <TBKDan> You just said no upgrade docs, you didn't mention which types
[31-Jul-2008 17:05:14] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[31-Jul-2008 17:40:29] <C_Kode> What grant rights does the MySQLMonitor require for the zenoss user?
[31-Jul-2008 17:40:44] <C_Kode> grant rights on the mysql server
[31-Jul-2008 19:10:39] <jb> C_Kode: its in the documentation..
[31-Jul-2008 19:11:41] <C_Kode> jb: I couldn't find it, but just for testing I gave it full rights, but I still can't figure out where or how to actually use the zenpack
OS Process? [31-Jul-2008 19:12:53] <C_Kode> The most I found was where it tells me what it monitors and how to create a user (which I know how to do!)
[31-Jul-2008 19:16:34] <jb> i hope you didn't give it drop, delete, etc
[31-Jul-2008 19:17:11] <C_Kode> It was a test MySQL server
[31-Jul-2008 19:46:01] <twm1010> Anyone here had any experience with Netapp Storage?
[31-Jul-2008 19:48:11] <SEJeff> twm1010, I'm got netapp experience, but not in conjunction with Zenoss. Whats up?
[31-Jul-2008 19:48:18] <SEJeff> s/I'm/I've/
[31-Jul-2008 19:49:09] <twm1010> I'm looking at using an FAS3140 as primary storage, a bit foreign to me, would just like some opinions of it from people who actually work with it
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:04] <SEJeff> as primary storage for what and what is the environment? Linux, Windows, Mixed, etc
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:23] <SEJeff> I'm a huge netapp fan and the whole FAS3X series. Make sure to run the latest ontap though
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:31] <twm1010> mixed, netware, linux, windows. mostly serving up images
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:45] <SEJeff> So nfs, cifs, and...
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:50] <twm1010> lots of mac users
[31-Jul-2008 19:50:59] <SEJeff> Yeah same here
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:04] <twm1010> right now we have an old HP MA8000 fronted by Netware 6.5 boxes
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:17] <SEJeff> Well what is your question in specific?
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:30] <SEJeff> For a general purpose NAS, nothing beats netapp for reliability
[31-Jul-2008 19:51:37] <SEJeff> Are you getting 1 head or 2 head configurations?
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:12] <twm1010> 2 head meaning both Fibre/iSCSI and NAS ?
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:27] <SEJeff> Meaning two nas heads
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:40] <SEJeff> As in the clustered pair so if 1 head dies, you failover to the second
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:49] <twm1010> Yeah, definitely two.
[31-Jul-2008 19:52:59] <SEJeff> Ok, the cluster licenses aren't cheap
[31-Jul-2008 19:53:11] <SEJeff> But it is really nice to do something like cf partner and run commands
[31-Jul-2008 19:53:42] <SEJeff> 0 experience with netapp and iscsi. They said it was experimental last I checked
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:13] <SEJeff> So do you have any specific question in re: to netapp as primary storage?
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:36] <twm1010> I guess where I'm really going, is why would I choose something like this, over a more traditional san like an HP/EMC/IBM
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:41] <SEJeff> make sure to get the cluster license if you've got the budget and setup auto-failover
[31-Jul-2008 19:54:44] <SEJeff> Easy, WAFL
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:00] <SEJeff> How do you front those other sans?
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:09] <twm1010> With Netware servers right now.
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:13] <SEJeff> Exactly
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:17] <SEJeff> And what filesystem do those run?
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:22] <twm1010> NSS
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:32] <SEJeff> How easy is it to expand or shrink a filesystem?
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:47] <twm1010> shrink? not possible. expand, not too bad.
[31-Jul-2008 19:55:52] <SEJeff> +1 for netapp
[31-Jul-2008 19:56:05] <SEJeff> vol size -10g /path/to/vol
[31-Jul-2008 19:56:14] <SEJeff> That is how you shrink a volume in netapp all online
[31-Jul-2008 19:56:37] <SEJeff> What about data integrity? Do you run raid?
[31-Jul-2008 19:57:08] <twm1010> Sure, existing san is RAID5, maybe 30 raidsets.
[31-Jul-2008 19:57:40] <SEJeff> NetAPP is all raidN. A proprietary raid using WAFL
[31-Jul-2008 19:57:56] <SEJeff> Can we take this to #offtopic?
[31-Jul-2008 19:58:00] <twm1010> So traditionally with a NetApp you wouldn't even need to front the data with an O/S, let the clients hit it directly?
[31-Jul-2008 19:58:01] <twm1010> sure.
[31-Jul-2008 19:58:23] <SEJeff> ok can you: /j #offtopic
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