[01-Nov-2008 06:25:13] **julianms> hi
[01-Nov-2008 06:25:19] **julianms> who
[01-Nov-2008 06:25:40] **julianms> i'm alone here?
[01-Nov-2008 08:27:58] **huggie> Well, it seems to be a channel of questions.
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[01-Nov-2008 17:28:14] **julianms> ok, im trying to manually write an ipAddress of an Device interface using AddInterface, but it doesn't take changes, i also tried to update this attribute manually trought console but i culdn't so i would be very happy if some one could tell me how to do this.
[01-Nov-2008 17:28:41] **julianms> well if some one see this message writeme back to julian@bidda.net
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[03-Nov-2008 16:12:55] **Evolution> stupid question, but I've been through the docs and I'm missing something simple I think. How do I enable checks/perf output from a zenpack? for example the iis6 community pack
[03-Nov-2008 16:14:19] **Evolution> I've added the windows server device, with snmp enabled. I'm able to get cacti to graph the iis bits, but I'm not familiar with zenoss enough to see how to do this?
[03-Nov-2008 16:14:23] **Evolution> pointers, doco?
[03-Nov-2008 16:18:37] **huggie> There aren't many people answering questions here. If you added the server and then later added the IIS pack you might need to remodel the device though.
[03-Nov-2008 16:18:45] **huggie> (I think by default it remodels every 6 hours)
[03-Nov-2008 16:19:42] **Evolution> arrow, manage-> model device, yes?
[03-Nov-2008 16:19:49] **Evolution> (thanks for the pointer)
[03-Nov-2008 16:49:11] **ke4qqq> hey guys - I have zenoss-2.2.4-75.el5 running on CentOS 5 - when I try and start zensyslog I get http://fpaste.org/paste/8461
[03-Nov-2008 16:49:17] **ke4qqq> anyone know a solution to the above?
[03-Nov-2008 16:49:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #8461 (at fpaste.org)
[03-Nov-2008 16:54:37] **rhett___> i am unsure
[03-Nov-2008 18:02:29] **ke4qqq> anyone know why zenoss would suddenly stop sending email alerts?
[03-Nov-2008 18:09:29] **rhett___> is zenhub running?
[03-Nov-2008 18:10:25] **ke4qqq> yes
[03-Nov-2008 18:11:19] **rhett___> service zenoss status gives you a running pid of each process?
[03-Nov-2008 18:11:50] **ke4qqq> yes and zenhub is running, the only thing that isn't is zensyslog
[03-Nov-2008 18:13:15] **rhett___> hm. i am unsure. if yous end a test email does it go through?
[03-Nov-2008 18:15:22] **ke4qqq> rhett___: yeah using the mail command works
[03-Nov-2008 18:28:09] **zenoss> any comments on zenoss 2.3 beta ??
[03-Nov-2008 18:39:49] **rhett___> i have none. i just installed it this morning since 2.2.4 seems to be removed port monitors for certain hosts
[03-Nov-2008 18:40:23] **rhett___> i was getting errors when trying zenrestore so i figured it just let it discover devices and it gave an errors to for the lmstats mib but thats about it so far
[03-Nov-2008 18:42:35] **ke4qqq> the upgrade process is soooo painful with zenoss.
[03-Nov-2008 18:44:17] **zenoss> yep
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:18] **zenoss> I was close to jump off from a 6 story building trying to upgrade from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:44] **Bart> hm, i did that upgrade without any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:48] **zenoss> had to upgrade "manually"
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:49] **ke4qqq> zenoss: I spent three days attempting and then just completely reimaged the machine.
[03-Nov-2008 18:48:06] **zenoss> I am installing 2.3 beta expecting to see the impovements......
[03-Nov-2008 18:50:38] **MAlexHerron> anyone notice any issues loading cisco routers on a working zen installation? i can snmpwalk, but zen is not listing OS information
[03-Nov-2008 18:52:14] **MAlexHerron> i.e. the snmp description... it worked momentarily, and then not... even when i deleted the device that it worked on, and tried reloading it
[03-Nov-2008 18:52:18] **MAlexHerron> no snmp desc
[03-Nov-2008 19:03:37] **rhett___> i just intalled 2.3 in a base centos5.2 vm to see how it flys
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[04-Nov-2008 13:36:58] **evil-lw> so it seems I've run into a bug regarding downtime windows and the DST chagne, where my windows are being un-set an hour early for some odd reason
[04-Nov-2008 13:37:18] **evil-lw> s/downtime/maintenanace windows/
[04-Nov-2008 13:52:43] **npmccallum> evil-lw: I think its a known issue, patch forthcoming
[04-Nov-2008 14:24:07] **uwe> hello, i want to send alert only if ping fails twice, do i do it by setting count >= 2 ? correct ?
[04-Nov-2008 14:26:59] **evil-lw> npmccallum: cool
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[05-Nov-2008 13:39:19] **evil-lw> so I have a large number of services being monitored that have child threads... on older kernels with the threading display model that shows each thread as a process... well zenprocess alarms saying that the process restarted when threads disappear or change pids... any hints or am I just doomed to dropping process restart alarms?
[05-Nov-2008 14:18:04] **dorferiferon> anyone here understand much about exec'ing commands from snmpd and having the data returned in an integer rather than a string format? 2.2.[123] did this without a problem and and now all i get are string returning and it is playing hell on my graphs.
[05-Nov-2008 14:18:32] **dorferiferon> is there a way to tell a data point it is not a string being returned?
[05-Nov-2008 14:23:25] **dorferiferon> no one can help me on this one?
[05-Nov-2008 15:14:23] **evil-lw> dorferiferon: use an intermediate script so you return the data using a local command that connects out over snmp, that way you have "variable=1234 variable2=10201" instead of snmp oids as a bunch of data sources
[05-Nov-2008 15:34:42] **dorferiferon> i might be missing you... i was polling th enumber of emails in a db_queue v/sendmail stats. it was exec'ed from snmp
[05-Nov-2008 15:34:53] **dorferiferon> only difference was 2.2.4
[05-Nov-2008 15:36:58] **dorferiferon> evil-lw: are you saying i should return the values as commands run from ssh?
[05-Nov-2008 15:37:04] **evil-lw> hmm, i'm still on 2.2.3 and using external commands for some of the graph data collection
[05-Nov-2008 15:37:42] **evil-lw> well, i have an script that acts as a wrapper... so the command executes locally, which then connects out to the remote host and collects the snmp variables and feeds it back to zenoss as var=value
[05-Nov-2008 15:37:53] **evil-lw> on one line, for all the data points
[05-Nov-2008 15:38:52] **dorferiferon> do you happen to have a generic code snippet to share
[05-Nov-2008 15:39:41] **evil-lw> yeah, one moment
[05-Nov-2008 15:40:45] **dorferiferon> evil-lw: i really appreciate it man.
[05-Nov-2008 15:44:31] **evil-lw> I have a script that executes "snmpget -Ov -OU -c $1 -v1 $2 1.3.6.1.4.1.99999.1.blahblahblahrestofOID|sed s/STRING:\ \"//|sed s/\"//", value one being the community string from zenoss, value 2 being the host. That command returns "Database OK | user_count=14 active_threads=0 database_size=698112156 backup_size=214155412 workfolder_size=6796228 dumped_searches=0 backup_failed=0 license=0 errors=0"
[05-Nov-2008 15:44:46] **evil-lw> I then use those data points from the one command to do graphing/thresholds
[05-Nov-2008 16:14:08] **garnica> Using zenoss 2.1.3 I have created a performance graph of some device with a threshold of max 60% to create a warning.... it went all ok... 2 months later I want to reset this threshold to the value of 66%
[05-Nov-2008 16:14:45] **garnica> no error messages received... apparently the threshold reset to 66% was succesfull
[05-Nov-2008 16:15:12] **garnica> but looking at notification mails I realize that it keeps considering 60% as threshold
[05-Nov-2008 16:15:21] **garnica> like if no changes were made
[05-Nov-2008 16:16:10] **garnica> what could be happening ?? any ideas ??
[05-Nov-2008 17:16:33] **NoxIn-> Hellop
[05-Nov-2008 17:59:29] **garnica> what's up !
[05-Nov-2008 21:40:17] **nemo2> garnica, how long did you give it ?
[05-Nov-2008 21:58:58] **garnica> i'm back sorry
[05-Nov-2008 21:59:56] **garnica> nemo2 around 2 days long !
[05-Nov-2008 22:00:34] **nemo2> ok long enough
[05-Nov-2008 22:01:25] **garnica> yep...
[05-Nov-2008 22:02:33] **garnica> I was thinking on looking at python's source code...
[05-Nov-2008 22:02:57] **garnica> maybe I can see something from there
[05-Nov-2008 22:03:17] **garnica> I have also tried remodeling the device..... but no success
[05-Nov-2008 22:12:28] **nemo2> i would delete caches etc ( .zec and .pickle )
[05-Nov-2008 22:19:40] **rhett__> i hate pickles
[05-Nov-2008 23:35:42] **garnica> what is a pickle for ??
[05-Nov-2008 23:37:59] **nemo2> i cant remember
[05-Nov-2008 23:38:14] **nemo2> if i have those kind of issues, i stop zenoss, delete those and restart
[05-Nov-2008 23:38:29] **garnica> let me try that.......
[05-Nov-2008 23:38:38] **nemo2> they get rebuilt and most inconsistancies i have experied got solved that way
[05-Nov-2008 23:39:40] **nemo2> you should prob google it , just to understand it to
[05-Nov-2008 23:39:53] **nemo2> never a good idea to randomnly type stuff from irc
[05-Nov-2008 23:50:48] **garnica> thanks anyway
[05-Nov-2008 23:52:41] **nemo2> worked out your issue ?
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[06-Nov-2008 00:04:41] **garnica> I'll have to wait.... until level raises above 66 %
[06-Nov-2008 00:17:46] **garnica> yep.... confirmed
[06-Nov-2008 00:17:52] **garnica> it worked !
[06-Nov-2008 00:17:57] **garnica> thanks dude
[06-Nov-2008 01:10:50] **garnica> see 'ya
[06-Nov-2008 04:07:34] **rhett> hi
[06-Nov-2008 04:07:49] **davetoo> Jo?
[06-Nov-2008 07:40:05] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[06-Nov-2008 07:40:17] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[06-Nov-2008 15:41:52] **NoxIn-> Hello all
[06-Nov-2008 15:45:04] **NoxIn-> I discovered zenoss a few days ago and I was wondering... in the docs it seems that it do SNMP v1 ... is SNMP v3 supported or planed ?
[06-Nov-2008 15:47:23] **garnica> I have not tested it.... but it seems to me that snmp v3 is supported
[06-Nov-2008 15:47:56] **garnica> have you any device monitored through snmp ?
[06-Nov-2008 15:49:23] **NoxIn-> not right now, but in the zProperties I see only the communauty name, no snmp username or password
[06-Nov-2008 15:50:18] **garnica> ok.... do to the device list then select any device
[06-Nov-2008 15:50:32] **garnica> then you go to zProperties
[06-Nov-2008 15:51:04] **garnica> I can see snmpPrivType.... choices are DES or AES
[06-Nov-2008 15:51:17] **garnica> zSnmpSecurityName
[06-Nov-2008 15:51:46] **garnica> even zSnmpVer ... choices are v1, v2c or v3
[06-Nov-2008 15:53:23] **NoxIn-> hum ok sorry
[06-Nov-2008 15:53:32] **garnica> no problem
[06-Nov-2008 15:53:51] **NoxIn-> thanks
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:33] **saritor> hello
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:36] **saritor> anyone around?
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:42] **garnica> what's up !
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:45] **saritor>
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:51] **saritor> when using device modeling via ssh
[06-Nov-2008 16:42:08] **saritor> is there a way to change the port you connect to?
[06-Nov-2008 16:42:13] **garnica> mmm
[06-Nov-2008 16:42:34] **saritor> or are you forced to run sshd on port 22 on the remote box
[06-Nov-2008 16:43:07] **garnica> let me check that....
[06-Nov-2008 16:44:08] **saritor> http://pastebin.com/m11c5778c
[06-Nov-2008 16:44:16] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[06-Nov-2008 16:44:19] **saritor> this is what happens when i run the modeling
[06-Nov-2008 16:46:44] **garnica> have you tested an ssh connection using a terminal ??
[06-Nov-2008 16:47:08] **saritor> using zenoss?
[06-Nov-2008 16:47:24] **garnica> ssh -l user 10.36.0.21 for example..... using bash...
[06-Nov-2008 16:47:33] **saritor> aye, im on it right now in fact
[06-Nov-2008 16:48:23] **garnica> according to the messages.... an ssh connection was refused ....
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[06-Nov-2008 16:51:28] **garnica> I would first try an ssh connection from a terminal.... ssh -l user 10.36.0.21:29 for example so 29 is the specific port you want to use
[06-Nov-2008 16:51:31] **saritor> it attempts to connect to use user you set in zCommandUsername correct?
[06-Nov-2008 16:51:52] **saritor> i have already established a connection that way
[06-Nov-2008 16:51:59] **garnica> ok
[06-Nov-2008 16:52:57] **garnica> now.... I would add a command in zenoss.... using Settings... command tab... I would add one
[06-Nov-2008 16:54:00] **garnica> like: ssh -l user ${device/manageIp:port}
[06-Nov-2008 16:54:13] **saritor> ok, I will give that a try
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[06-Nov-2008 17:25:50] **saritor> hmmm, well it looks like the connection is being made there
[06-Nov-2008 17:26:10] **saritor> though because there is no way to pass the password it fails to authenticate
[06-Nov-2008 17:29:51] **garnica> mmm
[06-Nov-2008 17:30:49] **saritor> however when i run the model, my log on the server running sshd doesn't even show a connection made
[06-Nov-2008 17:31:04] **garnica> what do you want to use ssh for ?
[06-Nov-2008 17:33:42] **saritor> instead of snmp
[06-Nov-2008 17:38:14] **garnica> ok
[06-Nov-2008 17:39:39] **garnica> this may be useful: http://forums.cacti.net/about24960.html
[06-Nov-2008 17:39:46] **adytum-bot> Title: [HOWTO] Using SSH tunnels to graph a remote Unix server (at forums.cacti.net)
[06-Nov-2008 17:42:33] **garnica> http://zarb.org/~gc/html/udp-in-ssh-tunneling.html
[06-Nov-2008 17:42:42] **adytum-bot> Title: Performing UDP tunneling through an SSH connection (at zarb.org)
[06-Nov-2008 17:43:47] **garnica> I have never done that.... though I belive it is possible of course
[06-Nov-2008 17:44:42] **saritor> hmm ill check it out
[06-Nov-2008 19:35:04] **hoangelos> I'm having problems after installing the RPMs for CentOS 5 and the latest copy of zenos accessing the admin. Not sure what the defeault user and password is, but doesn't sem to be user: admin and password:zenoss
[06-Nov-2008 19:40:36] **hoangelos> can anyone help me?
[06-Nov-2008 19:41:00] **hoangelos> I don't see anything in the docs about the default for the RPMs and even how to change it
[06-Nov-2008 19:49:09] **carpenike> hello, does anyone have a recommended zenpack to replace the default Memory graphs that displays more information?
[06-Nov-2008 21:12:58] **ernestovargas> hoangelos: admin / zenoss
[06-Nov-2008 22:13:24] **hoangelos> ernetovargas: I tried that doesn't seem to work for me
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:04] **hoangelos> ernestovargas: any way to reset it just in case. I just installed it via the zenoss yum, so it's that version
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:30] **ernestovargas> I got zenoss.rpms from www.zenoss.com
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:35] **ernestovargas> and the default password is that
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:41] **hoangelos> which one the RPM?
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:58] **hoangelos> because I initially got the RPM from there and it was the same
[06-Nov-2008 22:19:05] **hoangelos> as in not working
[06-Nov-2008 22:36:31] **ernestovargas> are you install the correct version
[06-Nov-2008 22:36:34] **ernestovargas> i386 o x86
[06-Nov-2008 22:36:48] **ernestovargas> I am on centos 5.0
[06-Nov-2008 22:43:40] **hoangelos> I'm 5.2
[06-Nov-2008 22:45:22] **hoangelos> ernestovargas: I have the correct version of each.
[06-Nov-2008 22:45:44] **hoangelos> I mean is there a way to reset the password or command line verify the admin password is correct?
[06-Nov-2008 22:54:19] **hoangelos> I assume this admin is a zope user right?
[06-Nov-2008 22:54:32] **hoangelos> I could use zpassword to reset the admin user if I knew where the file was stored
[06-Nov-2008 22:56:06] **hoangelos> well I looked at /opt/zenoss/etc/hubpasswd and confirmed that I'm typing what's there. Where's the log on this thing?
[06-Nov-2008 23:07:31] **hoangelos> can anyone help me? I really would like to use this and not cacti. but at this point....
[06-Nov-2008 23:08:32] **hoangelos> I have found the logs, but can't figure out which one would have that kind of info in there. the hubpasswd file certainly has the right info, but the error message says The entered password or
[06-Nov-2008 23:08:32] **hoangelos> username is incorrect.
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[07-Nov-2008 07:00:07] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[07-Nov-2008 10:13:32] **chantra> hi there, is anybody using snmpv3 with zenoss?
[07-Nov-2008 10:16:50] **Quadro> yep
[07-Nov-2008 10:17:35] **chantra> I have set zSnmpAuthType, zSnmpAuthPassword, zSnmpPrivType, zSnmpPrivKey, zSnmpSecurityName and zSnmpVer in /Devices/Server/Linux/myserver
[07-Nov-2008 10:17:44] **chantra> Quadro: cheers
[07-Nov-2008 10:17:55] **chantra> but still, it is querying only cplublic
[07-Nov-2008 10:19:36] **chantra> do u have to edit manually all the commands?
[07-Nov-2008 10:21:48] **chantra> woops, hold on, it seems it is gettng the datas finally
[07-Nov-2008 10:22:00] **Quadro> i did not, in fact, i didn't do anything except filling in the corresponding zProperties
[07-Nov-2008 10:22:44] **Quadro> after that, it connected to snmpd without any problems
[07-Nov-2008 10:23:20] **chantra> yeah, it looks like it keeps on using snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp} system
[07-Nov-2008 10:23:32] **chantra> but under the hood uses -v3 for proper stats
[07-Nov-2008 10:25:18] **Quadro> yep
[07-Nov-2008 10:27:48] **chantra> cool, sorry for the bother
[07-Nov-2008 11:00:18] **chantra> guys, have a good day
[07-Nov-2008 11:00:19] **chantra> c u
[07-Nov-2008 12:38:21] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Nov-2008 12:56:15] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Nov-2008 13:05:43] **raddy> Is it possible to monitor IP Services in a remote device without opening port in that remote device?
[07-Nov-2008 13:31:06] **hoangelos> I need help desperately here. I have installed zenoss. I can't login. I'm using the username/password that's the default and it's not working. I have tried reinstalling the RPMs and it's not working. Please someone help me
[07-Nov-2008 13:31:56] **raddy> hoangelos : what error?
[07-Nov-2008 13:32:16] **hoangelos> raddy: The entered password or username is incorrect
[07-Nov-2008 13:32:48] **hoangelos> raddy: I looked at /opt/zenoss/etc/hubpasswd and confirmed that the username and password is what it should be. of course if I change that value it doesn't do anything
[07-Nov-2008 13:41:54] **raddy> hoangelos : i think you are experiencing database connection issue
[07-Nov-2008 13:45:48] **hoangelos> raddy: I'm using MySQL 5.0.45 and I have a root DB of empty string, which is what the docs said
[07-Nov-2008 13:46:35] **hoangelos> I can connect to localhost fine. there was a wierd error on connecting to host.com: "ERROR 1129 (00000): Host 'host.com' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts'
[07-Nov-2008 13:46:35] **hoangelos> "
[07-Nov-2008 13:46:54] **hoangelos> I did the instructinos and could connect to host.com, but still can't login
[07-Nov-2008 13:47:02] **raddy> Ohhh
[07-Nov-2008 13:47:29] **hoangelos> I'm restarting the app hoping that works
[07-Nov-2008 13:48:00] **raddy> hoangelos : one more thing, when ZenOSS initiated firstly, did it able to access your mysql database ?
[07-Nov-2008 13:48:31] **hoangelos> I thought it was, but can't remember now. if I see the tables it should be good right
[07-Nov-2008 13:49:17] **hoangelos> I see an events DB with 6 tables
[07-Nov-2008 13:52:46] **hoangelos> isn't there a log I can search for what errors are actually occurring that could help see if it is a DB issue
[07-Nov-2008 13:53:04] **hoangelos> or a command line way to test that the default username and password really do work
[07-Nov-2008 13:55:58] **hoangelos> raddy: http://pastebin.com/d25d0d282 this is the /opt/zenoss/log/event.log since my last restart
[07-Nov-2008 13:56:21] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 14:07:29] **hoangelos> raddy: think I might have something. Found the events log and raised the loglevel in the zope.conf for it. I found these logs: http://pastebin.com/d473eedce
[07-Nov-2008 14:07:37] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 14:07:43] **hoangelos> looks to me like it's trying to do transactions, but the default is MyISAM
[07-Nov-2008 14:08:26] **hoangelos> well actualy the tables are InnoDB. hmmm
[07-Nov-2008 14:08:35] **hoangelos> for some reason it's aborting the transaction though
[07-Nov-2008 15:06:38] **hoangelos> nice
[07-Nov-2008 15:42:33] **raddy> Anybody there?
[07-Nov-2008 15:59:47] **malbon> lo all
[07-Nov-2008 15:59:57] **mrayzenoss> right on time
[07-Nov-2008 16:01:02] **malbon>
[07-Nov-2008 16:01:02] **mrayzenoss> mrchippy and I are here to answer your questions
[07-Nov-2008 16:01:35] **mrayzenoss> especially mrchippy
[07-Nov-2008 16:02:25] **AdmGre> I only skimmed the e-mail, is there a primary topic today?
[07-Nov-2008 16:02:48] **mrayzenoss> not really, we can talk about anything
[07-Nov-2008 16:02:54] **mrayzenoss> like current events
[07-Nov-2008 16:03:07] **rfort> how about rancid integration in enterprise 2.2?
[07-Nov-2008 16:03:49] **malbon> isn't rancid already integrated with enterprise?
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:07] **rfort> well, it is in there
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:16] **malbon> talking of which how can you change a new event into an existing event log update?
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:17] **rfort> maybe a few quick questions, we were using 2.1 previously, but doing rancid manually
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:25] **mrayzenoss> yeah, Rancid integration is part of Enterprise, if you have questions on that you should probably contact Client Services
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:26] **hoangelos> what about not being able to login. I'm a little frutrated with how little info I can get wtih this. I have some log events that seem to be DB related: http://pastebin.com/d473eedce
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:35] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:40] **rfort> yeah we have a scheduled meeting with one of our dev's and sales @ zenoss
[07-Nov-2008 16:05:30] **rfort> 'cept, I think he is on vacation until Monday
[07-Nov-2008 16:07:29] **mrchippy> sorry for the crickets, folks, i got distracted:)
[07-Nov-2008 16:08:11] **That1guy15> I keep getting the following error when trying to map an event to an eventclass does anyone know why?
[07-Nov-2008 16:08:13] **That1guy15> 1 event is not class /Unknown.
[07-Nov-2008 16:08:33] **malbon> mrchippy: excuses, excuses
[07-Nov-2008 16:09:56] **__ian__> That1guy15: Event class mappings are applicable only to the /Unknown class.
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:12] **That1guy15> ah. is there a way to change the action or severity for this event?
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:13] **rfort> rancidgroup, and rancidtype. do you have any suggestions what that might be regarding? I'm new to rancid and a bit confused
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:28] **That1guy15> I dont want to change the whole class just the single event
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:38] **mrchippy> malbon: you mean alter an existing event based on a new event?
[07-Nov-2008 16:12:31] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: What are you not able to login to?
[07-Nov-2008 16:13:00] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: the admin. I use the default pass and then I get the lines you see from the events.log file
[07-Nov-2008 16:13:20] **mrayzenoss> you're trying to log into the DB?
[07-Nov-2008 16:13:47] **That1guy15> I could care less about the event but its severity is error. I would like to change it to info or drop it all together
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:07] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: login is "admin" password "zenoss". Does that not work?
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:17] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: is this a new or existing install?
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:18] **hoangelos> it did not work for me no
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:40] **hoangelos> myrayzenoss: a new install using first the RPMs from zenoss and then isntalled the RPMs via the yum
[07-Nov-2008 16:15:13] **zenTouris1> Anyone seen this error ( WBEM_E_INVALID_CLASS ) when enabling zenoss.wmi.SoftwareMap?
[07-Nov-2008 16:16:24] **cluther> That1guy15: You'd need to use an event class transform instead of a mapping.
[07-Nov-2008 16:16:39] **cluther> That1guy15: Go to the event class that this event is being put in and choose More -> Transform from the menu.
[07-Nov-2008 16:16:48] **cluther> That1guy15: Stick something like the following in the transform..
[07-Nov-2008 16:17:22] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: is mysql running? I assume you followed the install guide instructions? Maybe verify each step?
[07-Nov-2008 16:17:47] **cluther> That1guy15: if "triggerText" in evt.summary: evt._action = "drop"
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:02] **cluther> That1guy15: Now any events going into this event class that have "triggerText" in their summary will be dropped.
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:08] **hoangelos> I used the install PDF to install it and then later tried http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-with-zenoss-stack-rpm/?searchterm=RPM too
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Install with zenoss-stack RPM - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:51] **That1guy15> I assume Text is were i would put the event right/
[07-Nov-2008 16:19:01] **mrayzenoss> what version did you install? what's the name of the RPM?
[07-Nov-2008 16:19:29] **cluther> That1guy15: triggerText
[07-Nov-2008 16:19:31] **hoangelos> using CentOS 5.2 and the RPM that's installed is zenoss-2.2.4-75.el5
[07-Nov-2008 16:20:45] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Figured it out. The zenoss-stack RPM was removed, but somehow you found the install instructions for it
[07-Nov-2008 16:20:54] **That1guy15> gotcha
[07-Nov-2008 16:20:55] **mrayzenoss> You have the native RPM (which is good)
[07-Nov-2008 16:21:18] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Get this PDF http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-with-the-zenoss-installer.pdf
[07-Nov-2008 16:21:30] **hoangelos> that's what I used at first
[07-Nov-2008 16:21:53] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: follow the Chapter 4 instructions
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:05] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: the ones you referred to were to the wrong ones for your RPM
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:10] **hoangelos> I'm running CentOS 5 so wouldn't it be chapter 5?
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:19] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: yes, sorry
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:19] **That1guy15> cluther: is there a limit on characters?
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:31] **hoangelos> I first did this and then went to the one I sent you after the first one didn't work either
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:51] **hoangelos> I can uninstall and try to follow it another time, but I don't see how it will happen differently
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:58] **cluther> That1guy15: No.
[07-Nov-2008 16:23:12] **That1guy15> Cool thanks for the info.
[07-Nov-2008 16:23:15] **That1guy15> Everyone have a good weekend
[07-Nov-2008 16:23:47] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: since this is a new install, let's try running the uninstall instructions (chap 11) and then starting over
[07-Nov-2008 16:24:01] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: restart with a clean slate
[07-Nov-2008 16:24:24] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: k and don't use the yum repo I assume
[07-Nov-2008 16:25:11] **mrayzenoss> correct, we'll follow the Chap 5 instructions verbatim and see if there are any issues
[07-Nov-2008 16:25:24] **cjackel> Question: When setting smtp properties, it appears to autocomplete 'admin' if you try to set it to blank for authentication. What config file has the true current state?
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:13] **cjackel> My mail server saw the attempts to connect, but zenoss kept resetting the connection.
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:22] **malbon> mrchippy: an existing event, sorry I got meetingified
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:42] **cluther> cjackel: This is your browser auto-completing the field.
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:46] **mrchippy> malbon: no probs. i know the feeling
[07-Nov-2008 16:27:13] **cjackel> cluther: after hitting save?
[07-Nov-2008 16:27:37] **cjackel> cluther: I delete the field, hit save, it comes back with admin
[07-Nov-2008 16:27:58] **cluther> cjackel: Right.. go into your browser's autocomplete section and clear out the entry for your Zenoss URL.
[07-Nov-2008 16:29:28] **cjackel> cluther: Ah. That makes some sense. Is there a config file with the current properties?
[07-Nov-2008 16:29:45] **cluther> cjackel: No.. it is stored in the Zope database.
[07-Nov-2008 16:29:51] **cjackel> okay
[07-Nov-2008 16:30:13] **cluther> cjackel: However, you can forcefully set it outside the browser..
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:01] **cluther> cjackel: Run "zendmd" as the zenoss user and then the following commands..
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:04] **rfort> cluther: question when you got a second, I'm curious about zenoss+rancid integration. if you update say, a username or password, does it update the rancid conf? or am I not understanding it correctly ?
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:08] **malbon> cluther & mrchippy: is there any move to optimize the zeodb into another more efficient or multiaccess form? our zeodb really slows down from time to time.
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:11] **cluther> cjackel: dmd.smtpUser = ''
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:15] **cluther> cjackel: dmd.smtpPass = ''
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:18] **cluther> cjackel: commit()
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:51] **cgibbons> zenTouris1: yeah I can help you with that WBEM error.
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:59] **cluther> rfort: We don't build your .cloginrc, only your routers.db
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:06] **cluther> rfort: So the answer would be no.
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:10] **cjackel> cluther: Thanks. I may have had other mail issues, but I could be sure exactly what it was using for auth.
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:10] **mrchippy> malbon: not that i know of at this time. when are you seeing these slowdowns?
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:26] **cjackel> cluther: *couldn't
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:32] **cgibbons> short answer is it means your server (probably a windows 2003 standard edition?) doesn't have the WMI Installer extensions installed so Zenoss can't gather installed software information via WMI.
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:43] **malbon> mrchippy: it's sporadic, especially when we restart daemons, or during modelling
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:48] **cgibbons> if you want that data, you'll need to install that (easy), or you can disable the SoftwareMap collector plugin for the device to get it to stop trying.
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:22] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: one problem I see so far si that the Zenos core zenpacks on the website doesn't have a version that matches the version I ahve
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:25] **zenTouris1> cgibbons: i disabled it for now, but it would be nice to get that data. is it an install from MS's site?
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:36] **mrchippy> malbon: are you pretty sure it's the zeodb access that's the culprit?
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:36] **hoangelos> myrayzenoss: I have 2.2.4 and they only seem to have 2.2.3
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:38] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: don't worry about ZenPacks just yet
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:43] **hoangelos> k
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:48] **hoangelos> so skip those install instructions
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:53] **mrayzenoss> yeah
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:59] **malbon> mrchippy: either that or zenhub, but they both have high cpu
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:14] **cgibbons> from control panel. you'll need your install media / service pack media handy. go to control panel, add / remove programs, then the Windows Components on the left side. then go down until you see WMI Installer Provider and click that.
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:38] **cgibbons> for some reason win2003 standard doesn't install that by default, but XP and windows 2003 enterprise does
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:43] **rfort> cluther: ah ok, I understand now what it does/doesn't do. thanks
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:50] **zenTouris1> sounds easy enough. Thanks for the tip cgibbons
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:54] **malbon> mrchippy: I initially thought it was hrSWInstalled updating or something like that, but that is only a hunch
[07-Nov-2008 16:35:57] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: same error "The entered password or username is incorrect"
[07-Nov-2008 16:37:53] **mrayzenoss> Is your mysql instance running?
[07-Nov-2008 16:38:10] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: I followed the instructions for ch. 5 verbatim except for skipping the steps to install the zenpacks
[07-Nov-2008 16:38:39] **mrchippy> malbon: well, i guess the quick answer is no we're not looking at that at the moment. however, if we could reproduce a consistent issue... of course, the hard problems are never consistently reproduceable ;(
[07-Nov-2008 16:39:34] **malbon> mrchippy: yes indeed, I've not got a magic formula for reproducing it yet.
[07-Nov-2008 16:39:57] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: When you started zenoss, did all the services start up correctly?
[07-Nov-2008 16:40:29] **hoangelos> I'll paste in the first startup
[07-Nov-2008 16:48:13] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: http://pastebin.com/d146d2067
[07-Nov-2008 16:48:20] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 16:51:28] **malbon> when creating a new hardware device (in this case an HP Fan) in the hardware page, I modify the TemperatureSensor model type and call it HPTemperatureSensor, how do I get my class to recognise an RRD Template called HPTemperatureSensor, or is it a static 1-to-1 mapping?
[07-Nov-2008 16:52:58] **dean> Hi all.
[07-Nov-2008 16:53:11] **garnica> you can map this HPTemperatureSensor to a complete class
[07-Nov-2008 16:54:02] **garnica> Navigate to the class you want to apply your template
[07-Nov-2008 16:54:28] **garnica> in the templates tab select "Bind Templates...."
[07-Nov-2008 16:54:51] **malbon> garnica: yes, actually I want it to happen automatically as part of the modeling process.
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:05] **garnica> then... when you add some device, in the "Device Class Path" select the class to wich you binded your HPTemperatureSensor template
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:35] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Nothing looks weird in that. This is a stumper
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:44] **mrchippy> malbon: the templates in the z property zDeviceTemplates will be automatically bound
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:53] **hoangelos> yeah to me too
[07-Nov-2008 16:57:33] **malbon> mrchippy: yeah, I've probably not explained it properly.
[07-Nov-2008 16:57:40] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: the only thing I see is when I bump up the logging to the events log to debug I see what seem to be transaction problems
[07-Nov-2008 16:57:56] **malbon> I'll re-submit it next time around if I've not worked it out by then.
[07-Nov-2008 16:58:32] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Perhaps post this on the forums with your links and mention the steps you followed... maybe another CentOS user might have an idea
[07-Nov-2008 17:01:27] **cluther> malbon: regarding the template binding. You're right in assuming that component templates get bound based on the class name.
[07-Nov-2008 17:02:09] **cluther> malbon: To be precise, the DeviceComponent base class has a method called getRRDTemplateByName that actually performs the binding. Your object can override that method if you wish to use a different template name for your class.
[07-Nov-2008 17:02:34] **cluther> malbon: Assuming your class is derived from DeviceComponent.. which it absolutely should be.
[07-Nov-2008 17:04:23] **malbon> cluther: cool, that's what I thought.
[07-Nov-2008 17:04:44] **cluther> malbon: Oops.. bad information. It is the getRRDTemplateName method of the RRDView base class.
[07-Nov-2008 17:04:48] **malbon> cluther: I inherited TemperatureSensor in my class but it doesn't seem to work according to plan.
[07-Nov-2008 17:05:42] **cluther> malbon: You're able to model the sensors properly, but zenperfsnmp isn't making the OID requests in your template?
[07-Nov-2008 17:06:28] **malbon> cluther: nope, I model fine, but the host picks the TemperatureSensor Template rather than HPTemperatureSensor
[07-Nov-2008 17:07:01] **cluther> malbon: Do you have meta_type defined as a property of the HPTemperatureSensor class?
[07-Nov-2008 17:07:13] **malbon> cluther: it's probably something very simple that I am not doing right
[07-Nov-2008 17:07:33] **cluther> malbon: Set meta_type = "HPTemperatureSensor" in your HPTemperatureSensor class and it'll likely work
[07-Nov-2008 17:08:21] **malbon> cluther: http://www.pastebin.ca/1247982
[07-Nov-2008 17:08:31] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1247982 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[07-Nov-2008 17:08:48] **malbon> cluther: nope, I didn't realise about meta_type, but that'd certainly make sense.
[07-Nov-2008 17:09:34] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: stupid question about I didn'ti configure snmp this is a virgin system. That wouldn't stop things would it?
[07-Nov-2008 17:09:41] **mrayzenoss> no
[07-Nov-2008 17:09:48] **hoangelos> didn't think so
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:26] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: are you using "admin" or "Admin"?
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:35] **hoangelos> all lowercase
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:39] **mrayzenoss> dang
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:49] **mrayzenoss> "admin" and "zenoss"
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:50] **hoangelos> for both
[07-Nov-2008 17:12:06] **hoangelos> I think I found something
[07-Nov-2008 17:12:31] **hoangelos> in zenhub there's a CRITICAL notic that it can't find host and ignorning netowrk topology
[07-Nov-2008 17:12:39] **hoangelos> and then a warning that removing listener
[07-Nov-2008 17:13:56] **mrayzenoss> hmmm... I wonder if it's some combination of localhost/hostname weirdness
[07-Nov-2008 17:14:05] **mrayzenoss> what URL are you using?
[07-Nov-2008 17:15:45] **hoangelos> noc.numbersusa.com, which is the name of the machine
[07-Nov-2008 17:16:10] **mrayzenoss> and /etc/hosts has that entry?
[07-Nov-2008 17:16:27] **hoangelos> yeah it's associated with an internal IP, but it's also in the DNS
[07-Nov-2008 17:16:51] **hoangelos> I shoudl say a non-loopback IP it's associated with
[07-Nov-2008 17:20:34] **hoangelos> actually I do see collection of stats seem to be taking place by looking at the log
[07-Nov-2008 17:21:02] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: I'm a bit stumped, put that log message in a post on the forums and I'll dig around a bit on it
[07-Nov-2008 17:22:12] **mrayzenoss> I've got to get going in a minute, I just want to thank everyone for showing up. We'll have another session in 2 weeks (Nov. 20). We expect 2.3 to be out before then.
[07-Nov-2008 17:23:16] **malbon> Thanks Zenoss folks.
[07-Nov-2008 17:32:23] **Scamd> hi all did I miss the QnA?
[07-Nov-2008 17:32:51] **cluther> Scamd: You missed the main event, but this place is always a Q&A.
[07-Nov-2008 17:32:55] **rhett___> Scamd: it looks like it
[07-Nov-2008 17:33:05] **rhett___> mrayzenoss: I've got to get going in a minute, I just want to thank everyone for showing up. We'll have another session in 2 weeks (Nov. 20). We expect 2.3 to be out before then.
[07-Nov-2008 18:27:18] **hoangelos> well I finially found out what was happening in my login problem to the admin after 1.5 days. It fails on firefox for mac, but works on opera and safari
[07-Nov-2008 18:40:37] **rhett___> what version of firefox
[07-Nov-2008 18:44:54] **rhett___> i am using 3.1b1 and havnt seen any issues on 10.5.4
[07-Nov-2008 18:57:39] **__pok> is the logs for this channel available somewhere?
[07-Nov-2008 19:01:20] **cluther> http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/irc/archives/
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[07-Nov-2008 19:19:32] **hoangelos> rhett__: sorry was afk 3.0.3
[07-Nov-2008 19:19:48] **hoangelos> on 10.5.5
[07-Nov-2008 19:21:56] **cluther> hoangelos: That's the same exact setup I used without problem.
[07-Nov-2008 19:22:53] **hoangelos> unless zope objects cache are some how foobared. I tried clearning the cache I'll try restarting the browser, but it shoudln't be a diff
[07-Nov-2008 19:23:28] **rhett___> ah. i was using 3.0.3 too and didnt witness anything here. but i am also lazy and havnt upgrade yet
[07-Nov-2008 19:23:34] **rhett___> to 10.5.5 that is
[07-Nov-2008 19:32:37] **zenChild> Anybody ever had an issue not getting the google maps mash-up working properly? I have the API key installed and nothing is show up. Strangely, I have a separate instance of Zenoss Core where it is working fine. Is there a log somewhere that would help me troubleshoot this?
[07-Nov-2008 19:36:37] **cluther> zenChild: If nothing shows up I think it means your key is good. You'd get a pop-up stating the key was bad if this was the case.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:03] **cluther> zenChild: There's no log to look at, but this kind of problem is usually caused either by bad address information configured for one or more of your locations, or a bad geocache.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:11] **__ian__> zenChild: You've got top-level Locations with addresses?
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:14] **cluther> zenChild: You can clear the geocache by going to Locations and clearing it from the menu.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:18] **__ian__> Never mind, listen to cluther.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:26] **cluther> No! Listen to __ian__
[07-Nov-2008 19:38:05] **zenChild> i tried clearing the geocache and that didn't seem to help... let me double check my addresses...
[07-Nov-2008 19:38:25] **cluther> zenChild: Be especially careful of apostrophes and unicode characters.
[07-Nov-2008 19:42:01] **zenChild> Still nothing. I simplified my address so I have /Locations and 2 sub-locations each with the address set to City, St
[07-Nov-2008 19:42:47] **__ian__> And what is the error you are getting?
[07-Nov-2008 19:42:57] **__ian__> Or symptom of failure, whatever. A grey box?
[07-Nov-2008 19:43:07] **__ian__> or a javascript error? or no nodes being drawn?
[07-Nov-2008 19:43:31] **zenChild> Grey box
[07-Nov-2008 19:43:41] **zenChild> let me check the javascript console...
[07-Nov-2008 19:47:10] **zenChild> I'm getting some Javascript errors "ZenGeoMap is not a constructor" and "GGeocodeCache is not defined"
[07-Nov-2008 19:49:48] **__ian__> Cool. That's a good one.
[07-Nov-2008 19:50:14] **__ian__> That means that you're actually just having a generic javascript error that's blocking later stuff. What's the first javascript error?
[07-Nov-2008 19:51:19] **zenChild> let me clear the console and refresh
[07-Nov-2008 19:51:27] **__ian__> clear your browser cache while you're at it
[07-Nov-2008 19:51:37] **zenChild> k
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:07] **zenChild> This is the first error:
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:08] **zenChild> Warning: Expected declaration but found '*'. Skipped to next declaration.
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:08] **zenChild> Source File: http://10.2.17.208:8080/zport/dmd/yui/grids/grids-min.css
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:08] **zenChild> Line: 7
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:21] **zenChild> There is a stream of those
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:35] **__ian__> Those can be ignored, just CSS stuff.
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:51] **zenChild> woops sorry. i wasn't filtering
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> The first javascript error is:
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> Error: GGeocodeCache is not defined
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> Source File: http://10.2.17.208:8080/zport/dmd/javascript/geomap-2.1.js
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> Line: 9
[07-Nov-2008 19:58:56] **__ian__> Can you try the Map tab under /Locations?
[07-Nov-2008 19:59:12] **__ian__> Wait, let me restate. Are you seeing this on the dashboard?
[07-Nov-2008 20:03:26] **zenChild> yes. I'm seeing it on the dashboard. nothing shows up under the map tab either.
[07-Nov-2008 20:10:13] **__ian__> What version of Zenoss are you using?
[07-Nov-2008 20:10:30] **zenChild> 2.2.4 Enterprise. Just installed it yesterday.
[07-Nov-2008 20:11:16] **zenChild> i just did a diff of the geomap.js against the one in Core that is working and the files are identical.
[07-Nov-2008 20:11:39] **__ian__> Got it. Fresh install or upgrade? And you've definitely cleared your cache?
[07-Nov-2008 20:11:59] **zenChild> fresh install and i've cleared it a couple times.
[07-Nov-2008 20:12:30] **__ian__> Oh man, Enterprise. Are you using a regular Google API key?
[07-Nov-2008 20:12:37] **zenChild> yup
[07-Nov-2008 20:12:49] **__ian__> That's it.
[07-Nov-2008 20:13:36] **zenChild> k. i'll open a ticket to get the enterprise key. they mentioned it prior to me installing, but I never received anything.
[07-Nov-2008 20:13:38] **__ian__> Enterprise uses a different map key system.
[07-Nov-2008 20:13:51] **zenChild> thanx for your help.
[07-Nov-2008 20:14:03] **__ian__> Sure thing.
[07-Nov-2008 20:18:12] **__pok> why does my zenoss db just keep on growing
[07-Nov-2008 20:18:33] **__pok> I've set the keep events for... setting to 30 days
[07-Nov-2008 20:18:59] **__pok> but I'm not sure if that pruning works :-/
[07-Nov-2008 20:19:15] **__pok> it's like...18 Gb now
[07-Nov-2008 20:20:34] **cluther> __pok: It uses InnoDB tables, which don't reclaim space when data is deleted.
[07-Nov-2008 20:20:58] **__pok> no, I know
[07-Nov-2008 20:23:15] **__pok> but that means it's reusing the already allocated space for new rows
[07-Nov-2008 20:23:33] **cluther> __pok: That's the idea.
[07-Nov-2008 20:23:34] **__pok> but since my data has kept on growing for more than three months ..
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:06] **cluther> __pok: You can check to see if the pruning is working by looking for the oldest entry in the history table.
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:16] **__pok> ah, yeah
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:31] **__pok> when you're viewing events... you're right
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:32] **cluther> __pok: select lastTime from history order by lastTime asc limit 1;
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:50] **cluther> zenChild: Still around?
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:14] **__pok> that too - is there any shortcut to get to the mysql prompt?
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:24] **cluther> __pok: mysql -uzenoss -pzenoss events
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:31] **cluther> __pok: If you haven't changed any default passwords
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:43] **__pok> I haven't
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:57] **__pok> hope it's listening on local socket only
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[07-Nov-2008 20:26:24] **cluther> __pok: Likely it is listening on *, but fortunately the zenoss password only works when connecting from the localhost.
[07-Nov-2008 20:27:08] **__pok> oh, the login is host based per default? goodie.
[07-Nov-2008 20:35:32] **hoangelos> is zenjmx important?
[07-Nov-2008 20:35:44] **cluther> Only if you want to monitor J2EE servers.
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[08-Nov-2008 04:47:19] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[08-Nov-2008 04:47:41] **raddy> Is ZenOSS dev meeting still going on?
[08-Nov-2008 04:54:20] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[08-Nov-2008 12:52:39] **pegal_linux> Anybody out there?
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[08-Nov-2008 12:55:06] **raddy> Anybody there??
[08-Nov-2008 14:21:35] **evil-lw> so how do I reduce or change when it models hosts by default? I would kind of like to have it only run around 2-3 in the afternoon each day...
[08-Nov-2008 14:31:15] **raddy> evil-lw : I think in your device's ZProperties you can change the modeling interval
[08-Nov-2008 14:42:37] **raddy> Anybody out there???
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[09-Nov-2008 21:44:51] **tnnc> i have install the deb package and woder how do i get zenoss to bring up the gui
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[10-Nov-2008 01:15:55] **snowgod> Hey all - been going through the initial setup process for ZenOSS and reading the available documentation. Had a question and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction
[10-Nov-2008 01:16:24] **snowgod> How do I configure ZenOSS so that it is resilient to collector failure?
[10-Nov-2008 01:45:05] **shyru> hi all!
[10-Nov-2008 01:45:20] **shyru> any body live?
[10-Nov-2008 01:57:31] **justizin> snowgod: there is a tutorial in the wiki on HA zenoss setup. i think it can be done simpler with mysql replication, but that would probably require some changes to zenoss so that tasks can be offloaded to secondary collectors when primary are not running or somesuch.
[10-Nov-2008 01:58:29] **snowgod> well, the collectors themselves don't need to run mysql, correct? I'm under the impression they only store the perf data locally
[10-Nov-2008 01:59:21] **snowgod> events are stored in mysql, but that is part of the "master" zenoss install (in my understanding)
[10-Nov-2008 02:04:42] **justizin> well, it's all one zenoss install, the various collectors and other daemons use the same code. what you think of as the 'master' is really just the web server and object database.
[10-Nov-2008 02:05:18] **justizin> but yah i hadn't thought about the RRD files, that is a bit of a pickle. i'm most concerned with redundancy in reliability testing..
[10-Nov-2008 02:06:10] **snowgod> I'm most concerned about single server failure not impacting monitoring visibility in a distributed collection configuration
[10-Nov-2008 02:06:58] **snowgod> If a resource is assigned to "collectorA" and collectorA suffers catastrophic failure - I don't want collectorA's resources to go un-monitored
[10-Nov-2008 02:11:42] **snowgod> ah well, I posted to the users mailing list - we'll see if anyone has info or ideas
[10-Nov-2008 11:48:09] **uwe> hello, i want to monitor proxy service (squid) on port 3128 ... should i treat it as http monitoring on port 3128 ??
[10-Nov-2008 13:15:56] **uwe> no idea ?
[10-Nov-2008 13:58:36] **uwe> anybody ?
[10-Nov-2008 15:58:49] **shyru> hi all!
[10-Nov-2008 16:35:05] **texasthunder> how do i get an alert to go off when snmp see high cpu load?
[10-Nov-2008 16:36:35] **shyru> texasthunder, i can't help you, sorry :S
[10-Nov-2008 16:36:50] **nemo2> put a threshold on the graph
[10-Nov-2008 16:36:58] **texasthunder> thanks shyru
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:08] **texasthunder> nemo2, in the new alert?
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:15] **texasthunder> or in the graph?
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:25] **nemo2> the threshold ( when achieved ) creates the alert
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:28] **nemo2> have a read about em
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:44] **texasthunder> interesting, i will read more about thresholds
[10-Nov-2008 16:39:39] **shyru> guys! i want to monitor a mysql scripts backup, but i don't where start. Any idea?
[10-Nov-2008 16:40:30] **nemo2> reading the docs .,..
[10-Nov-2008 16:40:40] **nemo2> most things are explained there
[10-Nov-2008 16:41:06] **shyru> well, my mysql backup run everday with /etc/cron.daily, so i want to monitor if it had an error... or if it run or not
[10-Nov-2008 16:42:14] **shyru> nemo2, i read it! i think is about /Process, but only explain a bit about it.
[10-Nov-2008 16:44:43] **shyru> :S
[10-Nov-2008 18:45:04] **fotios> i am trying out zenoss but cant seem to get it to scan my network
[10-Nov-2008 18:45:15] **fotios> how can i specify a subnet for it to scan?
[10-Nov-2008 18:46:07] **fotios> i thought it should be automatically populated
[10-Nov-2008 18:46:15] **fotios> maybe theres an issue because its the vmware appliance
[10-Nov-2008 19:31:11] **texasthunder> i got it to work, first create a parent network
[10-Nov-2008 19:31:21] **texasthunder> and then in the sub category, create the subnet
[10-Nov-2008 19:31:29] **texasthunder> and then run the auto-discovery there
[10-Nov-2008 22:27:36] **shyru> hi all!, i want to monitor a mysql-backup scripts but i don't any idea, how to do!!! anybody help me?
[10-Nov-2008 22:28:19] **shyru> this scripts run with /ect/cron.daily
[10-Nov-2008 22:43:32] **garnica> shyru: basically you want to monitor if the backup script has been excecuted successfuly or not ??
[10-Nov-2008 22:44:06] **shyru> garnica, yes!
[10-Nov-2008 22:44:17] **shyru> that's right!!
[10-Nov-2008 22:44:50] **garnica> shyru: do you have a bash command so you can have this status ??
[10-Nov-2008 22:45:34] **shyru> hummm i think so.
[10-Nov-2008 22:46:32] **shyru> garnica, my scripts runs a mysqldump and transfer this info to linux box over ssh (rsync w/ssh)
[10-Nov-2008 22:47:23] **garnica> are you currently monitoring the device in wich you want to check your mysql script ??
[10-Nov-2008 22:47:46] **shyru> yeah
[10-Nov-2008 22:48:27] **garnica> if so... I'd create a command... ( wich is the bash command ) in zenoss so I could monitor the result
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:04] **garnica> go to "Settings "and select the "Commands" tab
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:04] **shyru> Thanks!
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:38] **garnica> sure !
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:59] **shyru> wait!
[10-Nov-2008 22:50:28] **garnica> what's up ?
[10-Nov-2008 22:51:01] **shyru> ok
[10-Nov-2008 22:51:43] **shyru> i did it! Settings --> Commands
[10-Nov-2008 22:51:52] **shyru> garnica,
[10-Nov-2008 22:52:48] **garnica> have you already created a new command ?
[10-Nov-2008 22:53:22] **shyru> yes
[10-Nov-2008 22:53:48] **garnica> have you tested this new command on the target device ?
[10-Nov-2008 22:54:11] **shyru> noup! im going to
[10-Nov-2008 22:55:03] **garnica> you know... you select the target device and then "Run commands" to select your new command....
[10-Nov-2008 22:58:13] **shyru> ok i did it
[10-Nov-2008 23:00:12] **garnica> hold on.... phone.....
[10-Nov-2008 23:00:22] **shyru> ok
[10-Nov-2008 23:04:25] **shyru>
[10-Nov-2008 23:04:58] **garnica> sorry... I'm back
[10-Nov-2008 23:05:02] **shyru>
[10-Nov-2008 23:05:23] **shyru> no problem thanks for you patience and for you help
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:29] **garnica> could you paste the output of this command ??
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:51] **shyru> garnica, i did ps aux|grep mysqldump
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:51] **shyru>
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:53] **nonsenso> what about monitoring the output of the cron job with zenemail?
[10-Nov-2008 23:08:43] **garnica> ok... let me check that out... hold on...
[10-Nov-2008 23:09:51] **shyru> zenoss 4583 0.0 0.0 4720 988 ? S 16:57 0:00 /bin/sh -c ps aux|grep mysqldump
[10-Nov-2008 23:09:58] **shyru> garnica: zenoss 4583 0.0 0.0 4720 988 ? S 16:57 0:00 /bin/sh -c ps aux|grep mysqldump
[10-Nov-2008 23:11:47] **garnica> ok... how can you know it was successfuly excecuted from these lines ?
[10-Nov-2008 23:14:06] **shyru> garnica, i don't know... :S but what do you think about if after to begins my scripts, touch and x file and with zenoss monitoring if there is it between any hours?? if there isn't send me and messages?
[10-Nov-2008 23:17:29] **shyru> garnica, is bad idea?
[10-Nov-2008 23:18:04] **garnica> mmm ... sounds possible... this is what I would do:.... I would look for creating a bash command whose result is a sumple digit 1 (when succesfuly excecuted) 0 ( not successful)
[10-Nov-2008 23:18:28] **shyru> ok...
[10-Nov-2008 23:18:39] **garnica> the I would add a template with this command... to get a performance graph on this process
[10-Nov-2008 23:19:17] * shyru is taking note
[10-Nov-2008 23:19:45] **garnica> try them both... to see wich one results easier
[10-Nov-2008 23:20:06] **shyru> oky you have reason.
[10-Nov-2008 23:20:27] **garnica> consider zenemail... like nonseno wrote....also
[10-Nov-2008 23:21:51] **shyru> ahh ok thanks nonsenso ...
[10-Nov-2008 23:22:59] **nonsenso> (:
[10-Nov-2008 23:23:05] **nonsenso> let me know how that works out for you.
[10-Nov-2008 23:23:16] **shyru> I'm sorry, English is not my native language thanks a lot ! guys!
[10-Nov-2008 23:23:53] **shyru> whatever i'm taking note
[10-Nov-2008 23:27:15] **shyru> nonsenso, are you there?
[10-Nov-2008 23:28:23] **shyru> you wrote me: what about monitoring the output of the cron job with zenemail?.... that's mean if i use zenemail to register o monitor my crons scripts? is correct?
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[11-Nov-2008 17:39:29] **dirkx__> Quick question - HttpMonitor - loading plugin into 2.2. is fine - can be selected - but once toed to a variable gives an __getitems()__ key not found error in the frameworks - any hints as what to look at ?
[11-Nov-2008 18:40:50] **slam666> Hi
[11-Nov-2008 18:41:39] **slam666> Anyone know a fix to solve the problem with netmask when adding a new ipinterface? Cant seem to be able to put anything except /24
[11-Nov-2008 18:45:30] **slam666> anybody alive here?
[11-Nov-2008 19:15:03] **cgibbons> crickets
[11-Nov-2008 19:19:52] **rhett_> i hear them
[11-Nov-2008 22:49:08] **slam666> Anyone know a fix to solve the problem with netmask when adding a new ipinterface? Cant seem to be able to put anything except /24
[11-Nov-2008 22:52:09] **rhett_> i am unsure. i only have 24 bit masks on my network
[11-Nov-2008 22:54:02] **slam666> it is not working in 2.2.4 and in 2.3 beta
[11-Nov-2008 22:54:29] **slam666> and wrong mask = mess up network map
[11-Nov-2008 22:54:48] **rhett_> yeah
[11-Nov-2008 23:13:19] **perr0> am I wrong that you can't have more then one template on a device at a time?
[11-Nov-2008 23:20:39] **davetoo> perr0 you're wrong
[11-Nov-2008 23:21:39] **davetoo> look at the zDeviceTemplates property
[11-Nov-2008 23:21:48] **davetoo> I don't even use the default Device template, personally
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:09] **davetoo> it's easier for me to make a heirarchy of device types by breaking it up into a bunch of small tempaltes
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xUCDlaLoadInt5
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xUCDssCpuBasic
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xUCDmemoryBasic
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xSysUpTime
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xNPcheck_ntp
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:29] **perr0> davetoo: I is a n00b but I will keep reading
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:34] **davetoo> that's for a subset of my Linux systems
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:38] **perr0> k
[11-Nov-2008 23:23:04] **perr0> I probably got confused with loading remplates rather then having them
[11-Nov-2008 23:40:29] **perr0> davetoo: whereis the zdevice template properties?
[11-Nov-2008 23:41:07] **davetoo> in the zProperties tab of any /Devices class
[11-Nov-2008 23:46:49] **perr0> thanks
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[12-Nov-2008 10:58:34] **Kvisle> anyone have any idea when zenoss 2.3 will be released?
[12-Nov-2008 10:58:48] **Kvisle> (on the roadmap it has been stated as complete for a week now...)
[12-Nov-2008 14:47:32] **zenChild> I am getting a Python stack trace after binding ethernetCsmacd to "/Devices/Server/Linux". I have reset the bindings, but I continue to get the stack trace. Here is the stack trace I am seeing: http://pastie.org/313040
[12-Nov-2008 14:47:32] **zenChild> Anybody know how I can fix this?
[12-Nov-2008 14:47:41] **__adytum-bot__> Title: #313040 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
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[12-Nov-2008 18:15:03] **garnica> hi people ! has anyone monitored performance of an E1 link on a Cisco 3825 Call Manager ??
[12-Nov-2008 18:15:41] **nemo2> there is a call manager plugin
[12-Nov-2008 18:15:50] **nemo2> i inted to use it oneday, didnt get chance yet
[12-Nov-2008 18:16:48] **garnica> nemo2 thanks! I'll try that !
[12-Nov-2008 18:20:15] **Guest99203> can anyone point me to documentation on how to debug alert rules? ...
[12-Nov-2008 18:20:38] **Guest99203> I have some set up, that 'used' to work, but they have since stopped, and I don't know why?
[12-Nov-2008 18:20:51] **garnica> Guest99203: what zenoss version ??
[12-Nov-2008 18:21:10] **Guest99203> version 2.1.2
[12-Nov-2008 18:21:20] **Guest99203> enterprise edition
[12-Nov-2008 18:24:03] **garnica> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch19.html
[12-Nov-2008 18:24:19] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Nov-2008 18:29:51] **Guest99203> that only talks about setting them up... not debugging them. I had already set mine up and they _were_ working, now they don't. What I'm trying to find out is why they 'no longer' work.
[12-Nov-2008 18:31:48] **nemo2> Guest99203, i had similar issue ( was running 2.1.3 ent )
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:05] **nemo2> no access to my system now
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:26] **nemo2> is this the value in the filesystem transform or elsewhere ?
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:42] **Guest99203> Is there some kind of log for rule parsing?
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:57] **nemo2> sure
[12-Nov-2008 18:33:14] **nemo2> events.log , zenhub.og
[12-Nov-2008 18:33:31] **nemo2> and others , i generally grep through them all if i am not sure
[12-Nov-2008 18:37:00] **Guest99203> hmmm event.log and zenhub.log are empty, and I don't see anything in any of the other logs (thats related)
[12-Nov-2008 18:37:50] **nemo2> increase your verbosity
[12-Nov-2008 18:37:56] **Guest99203> maybe I should 'restart' zenoss??? can't hurt
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:07] **nemo2> consider running them on the command line without being a daemon
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:09] **Guest99203> increase verbosity where/how? ;-()
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:16] **nemo2> eg zenhub run -v10
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:19] **Guest99203> ahh
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:36] **nemo2> that will stop running when you quit
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:43] **nemo2> zenhub restart to restart
[12-Nov-2008 18:40:35] **Guest99203> OK, I will try yr suggestions, and see what happens
[12-Nov-2008 18:43:57] **Guest99203> wooahh... I rebooted the box, and a ton of alert emails just got delivered. something had hung them up. Don't know what... but problem is resolved.
[12-Nov-2008 18:45:30] **Guest99203> now if I could figure out why google maps has stopped working. :-)
[12-Nov-2008 18:47:52] **nemo2> i didnt fix that yet either
[12-Nov-2008 18:48:18] **nemo2> Guest99203, consider killall -9 python ( still terrible ) but no where near as bad a reboot ...
[12-Nov-2008 18:48:46] **nemo2> older versions of zenoss dont stay up as long imho
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:10] **nemo2> i used to have a restart / clean ( kill old processes etc ) running twice a day using 2.1.3
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:17] **Guest99203> I'll keep that in mind. thanks
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:26] **Guest99203> gack... twice a day!
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:33] **nemo2> its improved
[12-Nov-2008 18:50:06] **nemo2> but i hate the way bugs are not dealt with, if a user makes a suggestion ( particularly an ent user )
[12-Nov-2008 18:50:16] **nemo2> it should be dealt with
[12-Nov-2008 18:50:29] **nemo2> zenoss is hard to use sometime, user improvements should be golden to them
[12-Nov-2008 18:51:27] **nemo2> i have about 30-40 scripts / transforms / filters set up to keep the console quiet and relevant
[12-Nov-2008 19:02:17] **garnica> gee.... I am using 2.1.3 ... restart / clean ??... have command examples ??
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:11] **nemo2> zenoss stop
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:16] **garnica> k
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:28] **nemo2> some kind of bash to detect and kill processes from zenoss that really didnt stop
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:32] **nemo2> and zenoss start
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:34] **cjackel> speaking of restarts, I no longer seem to be collecting current data on drive space. Other monitoring is working. Which daemon should I punt?
[12-Nov-2008 19:04:04] **nemo2> garnica, to be used sparingly
[12-Nov-2008 19:04:31] **garnica> ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:04:32] **nemo2> cjackel, check your zenperfsnmp log
[12-Nov-2008 19:06:23] **perr0> only punk newbies reboot
[12-Nov-2008 19:06:26] **garnica> did you include deleting *.zec , *.pickle in your script ??
[12-Nov-2008 19:06:46] **nemo2> i did
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:00] **Nireck> hey Hi everyone
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:02] **garnica> gee.... I'll have that in mind
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:09] **garnica> thanks !
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:17] **Nireck> wow I did not expect so many users in this channel
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:23] **nemo2> garnica, np newer versions work better, 2.3 is around the corner
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:35] **nemo2> i am not going to go for it right now
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:49] **nemo2> were are going to keep at 2.2.3/4 for another 3 months i think
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:07] **Nireck> Hi?
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:09] **cjackel> Log has recent entries, but some servers that previously reported in now show 'unknown' for free bytes, etc. It still gets network interface data. I don't think anything changed on the server being monitored.
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:11] **garnica> I'm planning upgrading to 2.2.4 ( latest stable ??) 'cause have not tested 2.3
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:31] **garnica> yep
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:36] **nemo2> cjackel, according to a ticket i had that can happen when your system is overloaded
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:00] **nemo2> so hows your load
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:05] **cjackel> only monitoring 20 servers or so
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:08] **Nireck> help anyone im having an email alert problem
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:33] **nemo2> well what about load etc
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:37] **nemo2> number of events
[12-Nov-2008 19:10:51] **Nireck> Ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:01] **cjackel> few events, zenoss server isn't taxed, this is still a test box
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:01] **Nireck> im back
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:23] **Nireck> Hey anyone, Im having a text box with an email alert problem
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:34] **nemo2> cjackel, are you exceding collection cycle time
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:37] **nemo2> s
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:44] **Nireck> tried with different smtp configurations without any luck
[12-Nov-2008 19:12:28] **cjackel> Would I see that in the perfsnmp log if I were?
[12-Nov-2008 19:12:58] **nemo2> well , same goes for most of the daemons.but yeh
[12-Nov-2008 19:13:20] **nemo2> each daemon reports and the end about the cycle stats
[12-Nov-2008 19:13:31] **nemo2> at the end*
[12-Nov-2008 19:14:01] **nemo2> too many devices not responding to snmp for example can cause a problem
[12-Nov-2008 19:14:42] **nemo2> but 20 machines doesnt sound like too much work does it ...
[12-Nov-2008 19:18:00] **exodus_reborn> @nemo2 Just FYI, I'm monitoring a little over 300 devices
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[12-Nov-2008 19:19:03] **nemo2> having the same issues exodus_reborn ?
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:08] **exodus_reborn> nemo2: Not with snmp polling for standard attributes. Zenoss does seem to tank if you send info syslog messages.
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:23] **nemo2> yeh i have a seperate system for syslogs
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:34] **nemo2> external collectors are the answer
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:45] **nemo2> solved all my issues, then created some new ones
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:59] **exodus_reborn> Nice, I'll check it out
[12-Nov-2008 19:22:09] **nemo2> depends on how many devices
[12-Nov-2008 19:22:22] **exodus_reborn> about 50 or so
[12-Nov-2008 19:23:16] **nemo2> i have 3000+ on a 16gam /8 cpu box
[12-Nov-2008 19:23:35] **nemo2> and the interface / zenhub running on a disk server
[12-Nov-2008 19:24:06] **nemo2> 2u or so, seperate disk pairs for db, os and zenoss
[12-Nov-2008 19:24:13] **nemo2> performance seems pretty goood
[12-Nov-2008 19:25:27] **exodus_reborn> I see. 300 devices doesn't quite merit that redundancy or hardware performance but that seems to be a pretty nice setup
[12-Nov-2008 19:25:45] **nemo2> there is zero redundancy in mine
[12-Nov-2008 19:25:53] **exodus_reborn> Just performance?
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:04] **nemo2> i monitor 30k details every few minutes
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:08] **nemo2> it all adds up
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:11] **exodus_reborn> I see
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:31] **exodus_reborn> How long do you archive all events?
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:34] **nemo2> depends if you just ping them or do the full works
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:41] **nemo2> i have everything since we started
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:48] **nemo2> but thats stored in events on mysql
[12-Nov-2008 19:27:01] **nemo2> device data is stored in the zeo db
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:23] **exodus_reborn> Is that the default config? (this is where I start showing how much I've used zenoss )
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:49] **exodus_reborn> I thought events + device data was stored in the zeo db by default
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:51] **nemo2> i dunno i forget what default is .. been a while
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:57] **exodus_reborn> I understand
[12-Nov-2008 19:30:03] **nemo2> no ,always been that way for mysql / zeo
[12-Nov-2008 19:30:14] **exodus_reborn> Ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:30:21] **nemo2> common misunderstanding
[12-Nov-2008 19:31:00] **nemo2> i thought you meant about if the default was ping only or the works with graphs
[12-Nov-2008 19:31:18] **exodus_reborn> I see
[12-Nov-2008 19:31:18] **Nireck> hey guys a quick question, did u setup our email alerts with a sendmail server or did u use another option??
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:03] **nemo2> Nireck, not sure it just worked on day 1 and i didnt look again
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:13] **Nireck> hahhaa
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:14] **nemo2> dont have access to my zenoss atm
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:20] **Nireck> ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:38] **Nireck> It is because I tried ( for testing purposes) to set it up via gmail
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:53] **Nireck> and a local active directory
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:58] **Nireck> an d no luck at all
[12-Nov-2008 19:33:40] **nemo2> well that doesnt mean too much really
[12-Nov-2008 19:33:50] **nemo2> could be anything, prob not zenoss
[12-Nov-2008 19:33:55] **Nireck> and certainly i dont want to set up a dedicated email server just for zenoss to work
[12-Nov-2008 19:34:01] **nemo2> check your logs first
[12-Nov-2008 19:34:57] **Nireck> Checked that, No local host mail is received, and also no test mails, but i can connect via terminal to the above mentioned smtp servers
[12-Nov-2008 19:35:40] **Nireck> well Ill keep trying
[12-Nov-2008 19:58:13] **cgibbons> hmmm
[12-Nov-2008 20:38:47] **fotios> ok, maybe im totally missing something here. i just installed zenoss on ubuntu using the stack installer, but i dont see any networks in the web app
[12-Nov-2008 20:38:55] **fotios> is there somewhere that im supposed to configure them?
[12-Nov-2008 20:41:51] **cgibbons> if you add or discover any devices it will automatically add networks as they are found from the devices, OR you can manually add them with subnets
[12-Nov-2008 20:42:32] **fotios> cgibbons: how can i manually add the subnets?
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:23] **cjackel> Question: I have this error. "Error reading value for "memBuffer" on vmhost1.strangeloop.net (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)"
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:30] **cjackel> yet if I manually check from the zenoss server
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:40] **cjackel> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public 192.168.140.15 .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:46] **cjackel> I get an integer back
[12-Nov-2008 20:49:56] **cjackel> what does 'is bad" mean?
[12-Nov-2008 21:05:03] **nemo2> simply means that isnt available on your system
[12-Nov-2008 21:05:42] **nemo2> so i read on the forum, was a reply from zenoss staff as i remember
[12-Nov-2008 21:06:02] **nemo2> convinced me, i set up transforms to drop the events
[12-Nov-2008 21:06:52] **nemo2> not sure about the membuffer thing
[12-Nov-2008 21:07:03] **nemo2> which template / collection is that ?
[12-Nov-2008 21:07:40] **nemo2> cjackel, i must look into that too, see if during snmpwalk i get a value
[12-Nov-2008 21:09:07] **fotios> does every machine need to have snmp to be discovered? or can zenoss do some kind of ping sweep
[12-Nov-2008 21:09:33] **fotios> i had my subnet added properly, but its not coming up with any machines
[12-Nov-2008 21:11:29] **nemo2> i do a loop called loadDevice via REST
[12-Nov-2008 21:12:03] **nemo2> wget http://user:password@zenoss.mysite.com/zendmd/etc/etcpassword@zenoss.mysite.com/zendmd/etc/etc
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[12-Nov-2008 21:12:22] **nemo2> and specify discoveryProtocol=none
[12-Nov-2008 21:12:47] **nemo2> something like that fotios
[12-Nov-2008 21:12:53] **nemo2> have a google around
[12-Nov-2008 21:59:04] **garnica> test
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[13-Nov-2008 02:48:25] **pat2man> so I just installed 2.3, I cant quite tell from the release notes but can 2.3 do performance monitoring with WMI or do we still need snmp?
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[13-Nov-2008 11:35:26] **uwe> hello, im getting missing RDD file on wmi perf! the mailing list http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2008/019705.html says i need to install snmp informant! but i do not understand why ?? wmic should be getting the data , why would i need the informant? that would be simply a diffrent way of retriving the data ... right ?
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[13-Nov-2008 17:07:55] **jeld> hello all
[13-Nov-2008 18:52:36] **fotios> how can i add a /24 network to zenoss?
[13-Nov-2008 18:52:41] **fotios> do i just do it as the id?
[13-Nov-2008 18:52:45] **fotios> 10.10.10.0/24?
[13-Nov-2008 19:17:30] **nonsenso> i'm trying to roll separate performance graphs using HTTPMonitor for a web cluster and am unable to add virtual hosts.. getting the error "manage ip already exists"
[13-Nov-2008 19:17:38] **nonsenso> has anyone ran into this?
[13-Nov-2008 19:22:58] **perr0> no me, sorry.
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:24] **rhett_> fotios: go to networks under 'browse by' and add the network and as you stated add the id of 10.10.10.0/24
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:50] **fotios> rhett_: ya, i got it added, but was getting errors when trying to discover
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:55] **rhett_> hm
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:58] **fotios> but restarting the vm seems to have fixed all my problems
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:02] **rhett_> i see
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:05] **rhett_> good
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:05] **fotios> it was the stock appliance too
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:12] **fotios> anybody else try to run that out of the box/
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:17] **rhett_> no
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:37] **fotios> it was giving me some errors in the .py scripts called by zendisc
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:56] **rhett_> i've always added the routers first so that all the subnets get added to the network list
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:12] **fotios> do you just add those throguh the devices?
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:34] **fotios> and i guess by ip where it says name
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:45] **rhett_> well when you add the device it gets the routing table if snmp is working
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:48] **rhett_> or should
[13-Nov-2008 19:29:31] **fotios> can it use any version of snmp?
[13-Nov-2008 19:31:39] **cjackel_> What does this error mean? "Error reading value for "memBuffer" on testserver.internal.net (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)". From the zenoss server I can manually read that OID with snmpwalk, so I don't think it is is a connection problem.
[13-Nov-2008 19:39:35] **nonsenso> ok, so i guess you have to make individual performance graphs for each vhost you want to monitor.
[13-Nov-2008 19:39:39] **nonsenso> that's a bummer.
[13-Nov-2008 20:02:54] **fotios> rhett_: i tried adding my cisco switch and it has the interfaces, but it doesnt have the ip's or subnets from it
[13-Nov-2008 20:02:59] **fotios> i can get that information from snmpwalk
[13-Nov-2008 20:03:06] **fotios> is there a way to force it to get that informatin
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:08] **rhett_> fotios: what happens when you try to snmpwalk it?
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:30] **rhett_> i.e. 'snmpwalk -v 2c (or 1) -c community hostname/ip .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.21
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:44] **rhett_> '
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:55] **fotios> when i do it from a command line, i get all the information i expect
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:13] **fotios> but im not sure how to get zenoss to populate that information
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:27] **nemo2> it might be a mib issue
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:40] **nemo2> http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1295652&page=1
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:42] **nemo2> same oid
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:55] **__adytum-bot__> Title: SNMP Simple Network Management Protocol - SNMP >4GB memory values in linux (at www.tek-tips.com)
[13-Nov-2008 20:09:45] **nemo2> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=26998#26998
[13-Nov-2008 20:09:59] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Performance graphs missing (at forums.zenoss.com)
[13-Nov-2008 20:56:30] **pat2man> does anyone know how to upgrade the vmware image to 2.3?
[13-Nov-2008 20:56:46] **pat2man> there is a forum post but no answers: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8021&highlight=conary
[13-Nov-2008 20:57:00] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Migrate VMWare Appliance to 2.3 (at forums.zenoss.com)
[13-Nov-2008 20:59:10] **rhett_> pat2man: it should be the same upgrade process as the other packages
[13-Nov-2008 21:01:12] **pat2man> well the upgrade document says to run conary migrate
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:21] **pat2man> here is the upgrade document: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:35] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:37] **rhett_> does the vmware image have conary? i dont recall what its based on
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:42] **pat2man> it does
[13-Nov-2008 21:03:45] **pat2man> the 2.3 release mentions adding devel// to the conary command
[13-Nov-2008 21:03:58] **pat2man> what I have is: conary migrate --interactive --resolve \ group-zenoss=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//core-2.3
[13-Nov-2008 21:04:42] **pat2man> but it says group-zenoss was not found
[13-Nov-2008 21:05:50] **rhett_> what do you get when you use the 'groups' command
[13-Nov-2008 21:06:07] **rhett_> you should see zenoss
[13-Nov-2008 21:06:25] **pat2man> i just see root
[13-Nov-2008 21:06:46] **rhett_> hm
[13-Nov-2008 21:07:03] **rhett_> i have next to know expeirce w/ the vmware image or conary :\
[13-Nov-2008 21:07:19] **rhett_> no even
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:18] **pat2man> this is my first time using it as well
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:26] **pat2man> conary seems to see the 2.2 branch
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:39] **pat2man> but not the 2.3
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:50] **pat2man> despite the fact that the 2.3 vmware image is up
[13-Nov-2008 21:09:13] **pat2man> I was thinking of running a zenbackup on 2.2 and then replacing it with 2.3, but I would rather do a conary upgrade if possible
[13-Nov-2008 21:10:28] **rhett_> yeah
[13-Nov-2008 21:12:47] **rhett_> well for what its worth i just upgraded the 2.3 beta to the final using rpm -U and everything worked great (or appears to)
[13-Nov-2008 21:14:46] **pat2man> yeah if I had a rpm based distro I assume that would work
[13-Nov-2008 21:14:52] **pat2man> and I assume the same for apt
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:07] **rhett_> yeah :\
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:14] **pat2man> but I think that the conary repository has not been updated yet, so I will have to wait
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:25] **philippe-> Hi, can someone point me in the proper direction ? I'm monitoring a linux machine running net-snmp. When I add an interface say eth0, I get errors saying "Error reading value for "eth0" on XXX.YYY.com (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.0 is bad)". But when I chekc the template and the values for these OIDs everythig seems fine, better even if I dig down the template to the above OID and I use the test function in thae template to t
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:25] **philippe-> t OID but when zenoss tries to poll the OIDs for the interface it doesn't work. any ideas ?
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:27] **rhett_> only time ive used conary is w/ openfiler and that was only to get net-snmp
[13-Nov-2008 21:16:54] **pat2man> philippe- did you try snmpget with that oid on the box?
[13-Nov-2008 21:17:05] **philippe-> yes, works..
[13-Nov-2008 21:17:24] **philippe-> actually, in the error mesage there seems to be an extra zero at the end..
[13-Nov-2008 21:18:24] **philippe-> so if I snmpwalk with that OID it doesn't work but if I remove that last zero it does.
[13-Nov-2008 21:19:36] **pat2man> which version of zenoss are you using?
[13-Nov-2008 21:22:53] **philippe-> 2.2.4
[13-Nov-2008 21:26:05] **pat2man> well I dont know what to tell you, there are some people having that error on the forums
[13-Nov-2008 21:26:32] **philippe-> it's as if when the automated query is done it apends a zero to an otherwise proper OID..
[13-Nov-2008 21:26:54] **philippe-> Hmm, I will go throw myself in there and see..
[13-Nov-2008 21:27:11] **philippe-> thanks for reading me
[13-Nov-2008 22:20:06] **exodus_reborn> Is anyone using LDAP authentication for Zenoss 2.2.4?
[13-Nov-2008 22:20:33] **exodus_reborn> *openLDAP to be specific
[13-Nov-2008 22:22:46] **rhett_> not me. sorry
[13-Nov-2008 22:27:07] **exodus_reborn> I guess it's not as popular a configuration as I'd hoped
[13-Nov-2008 22:44:46] **rhett_> yeah :\
[13-Nov-2008 23:02:37] **exodus_reborn> I got the LDAP auth working
[13-Nov-2008 23:03:08] **exodus_reborn> Its not reading the user list from LDAP but it is authenticating. Just FYI
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[14-Nov-2008 00:41:24] **garnica> Has anyone here have QoS Performance graphs out of a Cisco 3560 through snmp ??
[14-Nov-2008 10:51:16] **Weetos> Hi there
[14-Nov-2008 10:54:28] **Weetos> I'm using zenoss core 2.2.4 on a debian Etch system, and plan on upgrading to 2.3 - is there any server that I can add to my apt sources list, so I can take advantage of the apt feature to upgrade (eg aptitude update zenoss-stack) ?
[14-Nov-2008 10:55:47] **Weetos> s/aptitude update/aptitude install/
[14-Nov-2008 10:57:41] **Weetos> oops sorry just found it
[14-Nov-2008 11:07:05] **Weetos> uh no 2.3 published on http://dev.zenoss.org/deb/
[14-Nov-2008 11:07:14] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Index of /deb (at dev.zenoss.org)
[14-Nov-2008 11:07:56] **Weetos> anybody awake in here ?
[14-Nov-2008 11:17:39] **Weetos> anybody alive ?
[14-Nov-2008 11:18:36] **Weetos> the whole channel is dead ?
[14-Nov-2008 13:01:23] **evil-lw> Weetos: i've found that few people here ever respond...
[14-Nov-2008 13:02:42] **Weetos> yep I've came twice before today and never ever get a sign of life
[14-Nov-2008 13:03:03] **Weetos> Thanks for being alive and talkative, evil-lw !
[14-Nov-2008 13:06:38] **evil-lw> I was just passing by, I'm running late for work this morning
[14-Nov-2008 13:06:59] **evil-lw> I've had to just sit and idle, and be an annoying pest on a question or two... most of the time I've ended figuring it out
[14-Nov-2008 13:07:00] **Weetos> slightly off-topic, but no one cares anyway, is your nick related to LightWave (lw)?
[14-Nov-2008 13:07:12] **evil-lw> and have had to learn to read python to an extent as well
[14-Nov-2008 13:08:24] **Weetos> yep python knowledge is kind of required :/ I'm trying to learn it as well
[14-Nov-2008 13:08:41] **evil-lw> no, my nick was LW from XWorld years and years ago, I got an Oline on XWorld and the owner of the network started calling me "LW" and it kind of stuck... for over a decade
[14-Nov-2008 13:09:13] **Weetos> ha ok
[14-Nov-2008 13:09:26] **evil-lw> yeah, its not really easy for me because most of what I end up reading at work is bash, perl, c, or java, python is a bit different
[14-Nov-2008 13:10:12] **evil-lw> Weetos: I use LW on most other networks I venture on to... but really at this point its limited to gimpnet...
[14-Nov-2008 13:11:06] **Weetos> yes it is - seems powerfull though - the syntax and the paradigm is a bit strange to me, but oh well
[14-Nov-2008 13:11:13] **Weetos> oh ok
[14-Nov-2008 14:51:03] **NoxIn-> Weetos: I installed 2.3 yesterday on a debian Lenny using the .deb from the website and using dpkg -i
[14-Nov-2008 15:08:05] **Weetos> Hi NoxIn-
[14-Nov-2008 15:08:24] **Weetos> you mean you upgraded from a previous version ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:08:43] **Weetos> or you did a fresh install of zenoss ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:09:03] **NoxIn-> no, as I only discovered zenoss a few days ago, I started from a fresh install
[14-Nov-2008 15:09:12] **Weetos> oh ok
[14-Nov-2008 15:09:40] **NoxIn-> but my point is ... the important from a debian point of view is the .deb pacquage ...
[14-Nov-2008 15:10:02] **NoxIn-> apt-get (or aptitude) use dpkg behind so it's the same
[14-Nov-2008 15:10:54] **Weetos> yep I get that, but I don't want to lose my data during the upgrade process, so I'm be bit worry
[14-Nov-2008 15:12:24] **Weetos> when I look at some upgrade howto there are some steps described (using zenmigrate, for instance) and I don't know if I have to do those steps when using the deb package when upgrading
[14-Nov-2008 15:14:08] **Weetos> and after all since there's a deb repository, why do I have to jump through hoops when an apt-get install would normally take care of everything ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:14:58] **NoxIn-> apt-get juste resolve dependencies and install paquages
[14-Nov-2008 15:15:16] **NoxIn-> for zenoss you have on big package contening all it needs
[14-Nov-2008 15:15:56] **Weetos> When you upgrade an Apache/PHP/mysql server, all you have to do is 'apt-get install apache php mysql-server' and it preserves your configs and data, right ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:16:00] **NoxIn-> backup your database and your files before to make sure you can revert if something goes wrong (and this stays true with apt)
[14-Nov-2008 15:16:12] **Weetos> Ok
[14-Nov-2008 15:17:36] **NoxIn-> right ... but when you upgrade apache and php on a debian stable you get a package where people tested the upgrade on unstable for a least 2 weeks, then more people tested in testing ...
[14-Nov-2008 15:19:46] **Weetos> I'm well that makes sense
[14-Nov-2008 15:21:29] **Weetos> Ok so I'm gonna backup my zenoss dir and the database, and then try a "dpkg -i zenoss-stack_2.3.0_i386.deb", and that's it ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:24:06] **NoxIn-> I can't say yes, I didn't tested it ... but I just say that doing so is the same as if you were doing an apt-get install zenoss-stack with the 2.3 in the repository
[14-Nov-2008 15:24:54] **Weetos> Ok then, Thank you so much for your help and explanations
[14-Nov-2008 15:25:21] **NoxIn-> you're welcome... I'am very new to zenoss
[14-Nov-2008 15:26:38] **Weetos> So far, what do you think of this software ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:37:58] **NoxIn-> network autodiscovery works best than any other I tested, I like the tree of devices types to classifie, (or locations etc) ...
[14-Nov-2008 15:38:23] **NoxIn-> for the monitoring/alerting part I still have to test it
[14-Nov-2008 15:39:26] **Weetos> I have a few issues here and there regarding the way zenoss handles subnets, but it's been worked out, as far as I know
[14-Nov-2008 15:40:50] **Weetos> besides this, this is best tool I tested so far - my only concern is that there's no way to have custom maps at the moment - I do hope this is going to be implemented soon
[14-Nov-2008 15:41:37] **NoxIn-> custom map ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:45:47] **Weetos> yes, say you want to have to view of your network from a logical point of view, not geograhical
[14-Nov-2008 15:46:59] **Weetos> a bit like in the Network Map section, but not necesserly interactive
[14-Nov-2008 15:47:31] **Weetos> having the ability to use any background image, also
[14-Nov-2008 15:47:53] **Weetos> We had those features in our previous NMS and I really miss them
[14-Nov-2008 16:27:17] **DaveS> having trouble upgrading a vm appliance - getting branch not found - anyone have the correct location for the upgrade?
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:54] **cjackel> I just saw this in the release notes.
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:57] **cjackel> Appliance Upgrade
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:57] **cjackel> If you see the following error when following the “conary migrate” instruction to upgrade the
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:57] **cjackel> Zenoss Virtual Appliance image:
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:58] **cjackel> “group-zenoss-enterprise was not found on branch...â€
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:58] **cjackel> then insert “devel//” in the string. For example, if migrating from Zenoss Enterprise Version 2.2.x
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:58] **cjackel> to Version 2.3, enter this command:
[14-Nov-2008 16:33:00] **cjackel> conary migrate --interactive --resolve \
[14-Nov-2008 16:33:02] **cjackel> group-zenoss-enterprise=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//enterprise- 2.3
[14-Nov-2008 16:33:21] **DaveSt_y> yeah I tried that, no joy
[14-Nov-2008 16:34:44] **DaveSt_y> getting the infamous branch not found - even with the devel string
[14-Nov-2008 16:34:56] **DaveSt_y> I'm also working core, not enterprise, that make a difference?
[14-Nov-2008 16:35:24] **DaveSt_y> gotta go to lunch, will check back later
[14-Nov-2008 21:22:09] **shyru> hi all!
[14-Nov-2008 21:22:40] **shyru> hi garnica !
[14-Nov-2008 21:26:45] **rhett_> hello
[14-Nov-2008 21:46:52] **shyru> anybody know, if i can install zenoss 2.3 for production?
[14-Nov-2008 22:05:45] **garnica> hi shyru returning from lunch
[14-Nov-2008 22:06:07] **shyru> garnica,
[14-Nov-2008 22:07:36] **shyru> no problem garnica on MX it's friday that's meaning everybody go slowly
[14-Nov-2008 22:08:49] **garnica> yep thats true
[14-Nov-2008 22:19:13] **garnica> mmm
[14-Nov-2008 22:19:31] **garnica> I have not tested 2.3 yet.... mmm can not assure
[14-Nov-2008 22:39:00] **shyru> dam!!
[14-Nov-2008 22:39:49] **shyru> garnica, im updated my zenoss to 2.3 and does not display anything on dashboard :S
[14-Nov-2008 22:41:00] **shyru> all device there are, and almost work ok, excluding the dashboard
[14-Nov-2008 22:42:09] **rhett_> hm
[14-Nov-2008 22:44:14] **rhett_> so i thought for some reason nested locations seemed to work in 2.3 core (which seems like it has never worked in the past for me) but i appear to be wrong. i have say /locations/clients/clientname/client-location w/ address set for client-location and i only get one dot on the map for all of /locations/clients
[14-Nov-2008 22:44:23] **rhett_> any one else seen that
[14-Nov-2008 22:46:00] **garnica> mm ok
[14-Nov-2008 22:46:24] **garnica> maybe the dashboard has not been configured
[14-Nov-2008 22:46:41] **garnica> go to dashboard and try to add portlet....
[14-Nov-2008 23:19:13] **|Lurch|> good TOD all...
[14-Nov-2008 23:21:38] **|Lurch|> having a bit of a tough time getting zenoss to find and monitor the Filesystems. doing "Model Device" does not help - Filesystems do not appear in the list. ("No File Systems")
[14-Nov-2008 23:23:09] **|Lurch|> i've verified that snmp properly returns all filesystems and their blocks/usage. "snmpdf" works from command line of the zenoss host. but filesystems never show up in the list.
[14-Nov-2008 23:25:35] **nemo2> what is the oid view tree in your snmpd.conf
[14-Nov-2008 23:25:45] **nemo2> is it .1 or 1.3.6.....
[14-Nov-2008 23:26:26] **|Lurch|> nemo2: "oid view"?
[14-Nov-2008 23:28:08] **garnica> what's the difference between snmp .1.3.6.1 or 1.3.6.1... ?
[14-Nov-2008 23:32:51] **|Lurch|> nemo2: sorry, connection died. i do not know what you meant by "oid view"
[14-Nov-2008 23:37:38] **nemo2> did you look in your snmpd.conf ?
[14-Nov-2008 23:38:28] **|Lurch|> nemo2: i have only one line there, the "rocommunity" name
[14-Nov-2008 23:39:43] **nemo2> you might need a more complete config
[14-Nov-2008 23:39:47] **nemo2> what distro ?
[14-Nov-2008 23:40:03] **|Lurch|> nemo2: net-snmp?
[14-Nov-2008 23:40:24] **|Lurch|> nemo2: snmpwalk shows that all disk info is in there, and properly reported to zenoss
[14-Nov-2008 23:40:50] **nemo2> linux distro i meant
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:03] **|Lurch|> nemo2: all other parameters (e.g. load, memory, processes, nics, routing table, ...) are reported correctly as well and show up in zenoss
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:03] **nemo2> you should have more than rocommunity
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:10] **|Lurch|> nemo2: don't use linux
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:19] **nemo2> oh?
[14-Nov-2008 23:43:55] **|Lurch|> nemo2: there are definitely no permission problems - snmpdf from zenoss machine shows all partitions, sizes, usage, %, etc... just zenoss refuses to add them to Filesystems list when doing "Model"
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[15-Nov-2008 00:21:22] **nemo2> what collector plugins do you have set for your device
[15-Nov-2008 00:22:12] **|Lurch|> nemo2: double checking now..
[15-Nov-2008 00:22:49] **|Lurch|> nemo2: many, including zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap
[15-Nov-2008 00:27:09] **nemo2> you have nothing at all in the disks ?
[15-Nov-2008 00:27:31] **nemo2> what does it say if you try to model the device again
[15-Nov-2008 00:27:52] **|Lurch|> nemo2: no, nothing at all.
[15-Nov-2008 00:29:23] **|Lurch|> when modeling, it shows the command line (Executing command: /home.../zenmodeler run --now...)
[15-Nov-2008 00:29:35] **|Lurch|> lots of output, then at the end "configuration collected"
[15-Nov-2008 00:30:11] **|Lurch|> as part of the output it says "procssign zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap for device ..." ... looks same as others in the list.
[15-Nov-2008 00:31:26] **nemo2> no idea then
[15-Nov-2008 00:32:30] **|Lurch|> nemo2: i don't either. been banging head against wall for about a month now on/off...
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[17-Nov-2008 01:41:25] **fotios> wc
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[17-Nov-2008 14:58:09] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[17-Nov-2008 14:58:27] **raddy> I have recently installed ZenOSS 2.3
[17-Nov-2008 14:59:42] **raddy> I wanted to know that is there any way to monitor IP Service of remote machine without opening it's port, just using snmpd
[17-Nov-2008 14:59:48] **raddy> Is it possible?
[17-Nov-2008 15:02:09] **Danuvius> Hello Is it possible to create custom reports in zenoss core based on a filtered list of all monitored components?
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[17-Nov-2008 21:15:15] **pat2man> has anyone seen this error: WMIFailure: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED on some servers but not others when the account is a domain account?
[17-Nov-2008 21:15:26] **pat2man> also wmic from the command line works
[17-Nov-2008 21:15:50] **pat2man> and I defined the winpass and winuser all the way down at /
[17-Nov-2008 21:18:37] **zenChild> pat2man: I've seen that on boxes that have extra security set for wmi applied via security templates, etc. There is a mmc snap-in that manages security for WMI.
[17-Nov-2008 21:20:26] **pat2man> hmm, ok
[17-Nov-2008 21:20:28] **pat2man> I will check
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[17-Nov-2008 17:09:27] **Horsemann> Afternoon all
[17-Nov-2008 17:09:43] **Horsemann> Have a general question, is this a good place to ask?
[17-Nov-2008 17:09:59] **Horsemann> Or are we all BOTS
[17-Nov-2008 17:10:33] **nemo2> one should ask in order to know , imho
[17-Nov-2008 17:10:54] **Horsemann> Ahh very true
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:13] **Horsemann> Okay First love Zenoss, has been the answer to many of my problems... but...
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:38] **Horsemann> I need to execute a cscript under windows 2003 with winexe...
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:46] **Horsemann> no matter the format I use it fails..
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:54] **Horsemann> any ideas?
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:03] **nemo2> your user zuser
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:19] **nemo2> zwinuser? ( i cant remember exactley )
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:34] **Horsemann> Yes did that... all other commands done with winexe work just fine remotely..
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:52] **nemo2> hmmmz
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:59] **nemo2> are you in a domain ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:13] **Horsemann> just when trying to use csript with the iisapp.vbs provided by Microsoft wont run...
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:15] **Horsemann> Yes
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:16] **nemo2> is there are a policy or something maybe ? i am a unix guy
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:20] **Horsemann> And I use domain
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:26] **nemo2> dont really know that much about windows
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:28] **Horsemann> user
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:41] **nemo2> i think it needs to be an admin
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:46] **Horsemann> It is..
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:52] **nemo2> domain admin ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:55] **Horsemann> Yes..
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:04] **nemo2> ours worked
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:17] **nemo2> but then i stopped using it , domain admin ...
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:19] **Horsemann> running a VBS script?
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:23] **Horsemann> ahh
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:47] **Horsemann> there are times I need to reset a IIS APP pool....
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:00] **nemo2> not really much help ... you have tried wbmetest or whatever yes ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:03] **Horsemann> and this script does a great job... when ran locally
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:09] **Horsemann> Yes
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:22] **nemo2> and you are running it with the same user as local or .. ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:30] **Horsemann> Honestly think it has to do with the winexe I know there are still bugs with it..
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:33] **Horsemann> Yes
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:42] **Horsemann> Same as local..
[17-Nov-2008 17:16:29] **nemo2> yeh i am not much use then, we just used up all my windows knowledge
[17-Nov-2008 17:16:32] **nemo2> :/
[17-Nov-2008 17:17:14] **Horsemann> well Nemo2 thx for trying...
[17-Nov-2008 17:17:24] **Horsemann> guess I will do some more googling
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[18-Nov-2008 08:21:51] **Steak__> hello all
[18-Nov-2008 08:24:29] **Steak__> a simple question (That may lead to a complex answer) : is there any way to extract a single field from a Zenoss device using an HTTP request?
[18-Nov-2008 08:26:16] **Steak__> I'm really trying to see if somebody else had this need in the past, but I am not much lucky in my search
[18-Nov-2008 09:15:57] **jmp242> I'm trying to figure out some event transforms with moving data from an event details to the event summary
[18-Nov-2008 09:16:30] **jmp242> Specifically, I'm working on the area /Events /Security /Auth
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:13] **jmp242> I want to get the event when I get snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure , I then (and only then) put the IP in the summary that the attempt came from
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:41] **jmp242> I don't want to do it for all events necessarily, as I don't know that all traps / events will have the OID I'm looking for
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:43] **jmp242> so I've tried
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:57] **jmp242> if evt.summary == "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure":
[18-Nov-2008 09:18:09] **jmp242> evt.summary = "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from " + getattr(evt,"1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.5.0")
[18-Nov-2008 09:18:32] **jmp242> But it never seems to fire - I'm guessing something is wrong with the matching
[18-Nov-2008 09:31:38] **jmp242> any ideas?
[18-Nov-2008 09:35:02] **nemo2> i am not @ work, so i cant look up an existing transform, .. but isnt it in the evt.component ?
[18-Nov-2008 09:37:34] **jmp242> evt.component is blank in this event
[18-Nov-2008 09:39:15] **nemo2> hmmm
[18-Nov-2008 09:40:57] **jmp242> I wonder, would it make more sense to do this via another event class mapping and then do the transform there? But I don't think I can? It's pre-mapped to /Events /Security /Auth
[18-Nov-2008 09:41:15] **jmp242> I suppose I could create a new mapping, sequence it 0 and make the one in /Events /Security /Auth sequence 1
[18-Nov-2008 09:41:38] **jmp242> and then just apply the transform to everything in my new event class
[18-Nov-2008 09:42:01] **jmp242> but that seems like a lot of extra work to do something that ought to work in the transform like I can do for event severity . . .
[18-Nov-2008 09:57:31] **nemo2> where are you applying the transform ?
[18-Nov-2008 09:57:43] **nemo2> there are 2 ways, 1 sucks if there is no component
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:06] **nemo2> you should be doing this at the class ->transform level
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:17] **nemo2> not at the mapped event
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:22] **nemo2> if you follow me
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:27] **jmp242> Right, I'm trying to do this at /Events /Security /Auth -> transform
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:43] **nemo2> kool.
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:45] **jmp242> but it just doesn't seem to fire...
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:51] **jmp242> Maybe I'm just doing something wrong
[18-Nov-2008 09:59:12] **nemo2> i often grep through /opt/zenoss/Products
[18-Nov-2008 09:59:33] **nemo2> seeing if i can find out how zenoss do it
[18-Nov-2008 09:59:45] **nemo2> not that i am all succesfull with it either
[18-Nov-2008 10:07:09] **jmp242> hmmm
[18-Nov-2008 12:44:35] **garnica> How could I monitor availability of a process in a windows server ??
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[19-Nov-2008 02:26:10] **Gecko> Hi there, can anyone point me to any document describing how to optimize zenoss? I'm having extremely high cpu load. It's primarily python that takes the load...
[19-Nov-2008 03:45:32] **Danuvius> Hi At the moment I'm writing a custom report and I want to test the report from the command line. According to the documentation this is possible, but it doesn't state how....
[19-Nov-2008 08:48:17] **kim0> Hi everyone, is it possible to run zenoss on postgres (not mysql) ?
[19-Nov-2008 08:49:41] **nemo_> short answer, no
[19-Nov-2008 08:49:49] **nemo_> mysql is a pre requisite
[19-Nov-2008 09:09:27] **kim0> nemo_ r u a zenoss dev .. i.e. r u sure
[19-Nov-2008 09:25:29] **nemo_> kim0, yup
[19-Nov-2008 09:25:49] **nemo_> ah no not a dev, but i am sure
[19-Nov-2008 10:16:32] **Danuvius> \nick daans
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[19-Nov-2008 10:26:30] **deviant> nemo_: Do you use LDAP auth? Or have you successfully implemented it before?
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:08] **deviant> Specifically openLDAP
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:26] **nemo_> in zenoss ?
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:29] **deviant> Yes
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:30] **nemo_> i use ldap yes
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:36] **nemo_> against a windows dc
[19-Nov-2008 10:29:48] **deviant> I see. I'm having problems w/ openLDAP. I can't get zenoss to pull the users. I have passwords working but a search in zope for users returns "No users found"
[19-Nov-2008 10:30:32] **deviant> I have tested the raw ldap search string zope appears to be using from a console and I get correct results
[19-Nov-2008 10:38:53] **pens> hey, i'm having a problem with a template in zenoss
[19-Nov-2008 10:39:02] **pens> i'm trying to add a datasource
[19-Nov-2008 10:47:53] **pens> hello?
[19-Nov-2008 10:50:04] **krphop> hi
[19-Nov-2008 10:51:46] **pens> can you help me with my problem?
[19-Nov-2008 10:52:46] **pens> i'm trying to add a datasource to collect filesystem information. i'm using a .sh script, but when i put in ${here/mount}, i get a KeyError: mount error
[19-Nov-2008 11:00:35] **garnica> pens, do you want a performance graph of filesystem ??
[19-Nov-2008 11:04:46] **pens> yeah
[19-Nov-2008 11:05:07] **pens> i actually got this from a VMwareESX zenpack
[19-Nov-2008 11:05:10] **pens> and it doesn't work
[19-Nov-2008 11:07:08] **garnica> is your datasource using snmp ???
[19-Nov-2008 11:07:24] **pens> no, command
[19-Nov-2008 11:08:46] **pens> i put this in the command
[19-Nov-2008 11:08:48] **pens> $$ZENHOME/Products/VMwareEsx/libexec/vmware-esx.sh ${dev/manageIp} ${dev/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/mount}
[19-Nov-2008 11:09:17] **pens> then when i test it against a device, i get a "KeyError: 'mount'" error
[19-Nov-2008 11:09:38] **pens> if i remove the ${here/mount} and put in a known mountpoint, the script works perfectly
[19-Nov-2008 11:12:05] **garnica> mmm ok..... thinking.....
[19-Nov-2008 11:14:28] **pens> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=27945
[19-Nov-2008 11:14:35] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Creating a FileSystem command datasource (at forums.zenoss.com)
[19-Nov-2008 11:14:36] **pens> there's my new forum post, with a little more detail
[19-Nov-2008 11:17:52] **garnica> checking it out
[19-Nov-2008 11:18:21] **pens> thanks
[19-Nov-2008 11:29:19] **garnica> what would be the problem of removing ${here/mount} instead of a known mountpoint ??
[19-Nov-2008 11:30:18] **pens> because i have more than 1 mounpoint to check
[19-Nov-2008 11:34:43] **garnica> say 3 or 4 ?
[19-Nov-2008 11:35:21] **pens> 5 per server
[19-Nov-2008 11:36:14] **garnica> mmm....
[19-Nov-2008 11:37:38] **garnica> I've been looking at the tales expression ${here/mount}... but still cannot find any error.....
[19-Nov-2008 11:47:56] **pens> is there a list of valid TALES expressions?
[19-Nov-2008 11:49:13] **garnica> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/Zope-Book/2_6Edition/ApendixC.stx
[19-Nov-2008 11:49:23] **garnica> according to the zenoss development guide
[19-Nov-2008 11:51:09] **garnica> sorry
[19-Nov-2008 11:51:15] **garnica> this is the good one
[19-Nov-2008 11:51:19] **garnica> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AppendixC.stx
[19-Nov-2008 11:57:16] **pens> is there a way, using some sort of debug thing, to see what i can do with ${here/*}
[19-Nov-2008 11:57:29] **pens> like, I can put {here/id} and it resolves
[19-Nov-2008 11:57:37] **pens> but here/mount doesn't
[19-Nov-2008 12:00:43] **garnica> there is a small explanation on the development guide Appendix B
[19-Nov-2008 12:01:10] **garnica> but seems to me that there is more info in the Zope Book
[19-Nov-2008 12:02:06] **garnica> also try using the zope management interface.... try: http://zenossipaddress:8080/manage
[19-Nov-2008 12:09:41] **pens> that didn't help
[19-Nov-2008 12:09:54] **pens> oh well, i'll just hope someone sees it on the forum
[19-Nov-2008 13:48:45] **Cosmin> hello
[19-Nov-2008 13:48:57] **Cosmin> anyone having experience with creating restricted users?
[19-Nov-2008 13:50:04] **Cosmin> i want to create a user that doesnt have access to view all the devices
[19-Nov-2008 13:50:10] **Cosmin> just to a group of devices
[19-Nov-2008 14:15:42] **magnachef> I've had many issues with locking down users and permissions, etc
[19-Nov-2008 14:28:49] **Cosmin> did you had any success?
[19-Nov-2008 14:37:30] **magnachef> nope
[19-Nov-2008 14:38:13] **magnachef> My issue was more of having users that could acknowlege events etc, but not delete them...so on and so forth
[19-Nov-2008 14:38:42] **magnachef> but you should have some success by restricting them through the zUsers under settings
[19-Nov-2008 14:39:07] **magnachef> that way you can restrict them via System group, or by Device Class
[19-Nov-2008 14:45:37] **kuku> Sorry for the stupid question. How do I get zenoss to discover ip's on the subnet that its on ? I've installed the virtual appliance, but it doesn't list devices it has found.
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:11] **Cosmin> go to networks
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:15] **Cosmin> on the left
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:18] **Cosmin> create a network
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:25] **Cosmin> and then select it
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:33] **Cosmin> and then from the menu do discover
[19-Nov-2008 14:59:00] **kuku> I dont see the button discover
[19-Nov-2008 15:04:22] **kuku> Meaning, there is no button "discover"
[19-Nov-2008 15:04:32] **kuku> aaa, now I see it.
[19-Nov-2008 15:06:38] **kuku> Now its stuck on discoverDevices
[19-Nov-2008 15:08:07] **kuku> Ok. Nows its done. Nice.
[19-Nov-2008 15:42:47] **Cosmin>
[19-Nov-2008 15:42:48] **Cosmin> enjoy
[19-Nov-2008 15:47:14] **kuku> I guess I need to isntall some of these wmi. The zenpacks I install, but they dont show up on the list after. Does that mean its for the wrong version ?
[19-Nov-2008 16:12:04] **kuku> Cosmin: any ideas ?
[19-Nov-2008 16:15:52] **thutchis> Greetings. I am having a strange issue with a stack installer on Fedora Core 9. I am installing it remotely via an SSH session
[19-Nov-2008 16:16:28] **thutchis> The Installing progress bar went to 100% after a few minutes and now its hung and not seeming to be progressing.
[19-Nov-2008 16:17:14] **thutchis> PS and top shows ./zenoss-stack-2.3.0-linux.bin still running
[19-Nov-2008 16:18:16] **thutchis> Anyone else seen this behavior. Its been hung for a couple of hours now
[19-Nov-2008 16:37:44] **garnica> what about terminating ssh install and installing through a remote desktop ??
[19-Nov-2008 16:42:02] **thutchis> I did terminate the install with Ctl-C, but it still won't work even though all the daemons seem to start
[19-Nov-2008 16:42:28] **thutchis> I might try the remote desktop install.
[19-Nov-2008 16:42:46] **thutchis> Do you think there might be an issue with a server already running mysql?
[19-Nov-2008 16:44:30] **nemo2> quite possibly
[19-Nov-2008 16:44:49] **thutchis> hmmm
[19-Nov-2008 16:44:52] **nemo2> afaik its expecting a blank mysql install
[19-Nov-2008 16:45:00] **nemo2> i only used bin once
[19-Nov-2008 16:45:13] **nemo2> but thats how it goes with the rpm version too
[19-Nov-2008 16:56:06] **garnica> turn off mysqld service before launching the stack-installer
[19-Nov-2008 16:56:35] **garnica> I have installed zenoss 2.2.4 stack in fedora 9 without problems
[19-Nov-2008 16:59:31] **thutchis> Hmm... Good idea, I'll give that a try
[19-Nov-2008 17:02:20] **Gecko> I've mannaged to install it on fedora 9 with mysql running...
[19-Nov-2008 17:03:27] **thutchis> Unfortunately I can't stop mysqld without affecting the DNS service. May have to try another server
[19-Nov-2008 17:51:06] **thutchis> I am trying the remote desktop install. It did report a conflict with the existing mysqld on port 3306. So I changed the Zenoss mysqld to port 3307
[19-Nov-2008 17:51:16] **thutchis> We'll see if that works better now
[19-Nov-2008 18:06:04] **thutchis> It works!! Thanks eveyone for the hints. Much appreciated.
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[20-Nov-2008 01:29:00] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[20-Nov-2008 01:30:15] **rhett1> yes
[20-Nov-2008 01:31:37] **raddy> rhett1 : is it possible to monitor remote device IP Services without opening the port for monitored service in the firewall?
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:08] **rhett1> does the remote device have snmp open
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:18] **rhett1> and what os
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:25] **rhett1> for the remote machine
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:48] **raddy> rhett1 : SNMP is open in remote device, both running linux.
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:18] **rhett1> well let me start off by saying i am not a master
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:19] **rhett1> but
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:27] **rhett1> you wont be able to do a port monitor
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:33] **rhett1> but you can do a service
[20-Nov-2008 01:35:05] **raddy> rhett1 : how, Service Monitoring involves port monitoring too, no?
[20-Nov-2008 01:37:10] **rhett1> i have a few processes being monitored w/o ports
[20-Nov-2008 01:37:21] **rhett1> like webmin but no port 10000 monitored
[20-Nov-2008 01:37:33] **rhett1> but im not a pro
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:01] **raddy> rhett1 : that is Process monitoring. am i right?
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:11] **rhett1> i was trying to pull up my server that i have the info on but i cant pull it up i thinkk do to the fires out here
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:24] **rhett1> yes
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:34] **rhett1> waht are you trying to accmplish
[20-Nov-2008 01:40:51] **raddy> rhett1 : Basically i want to monitor Tomcat, when i monitor via process, it is not that perfect, that is why
[20-Nov-2008 01:41:51] **rhett1> what about tomcat exactly. process memory cpu utilization? or something more specific
[20-Nov-2008 01:42:24] **raddy> rhett1 : uptime
[20-Nov-2008 01:43:58] **rhett1> hm
[20-Nov-2008 01:45:02] **raddy> rhett1 : thank you for helping. bye
[20-Nov-2008 01:45:05] **rhett1> i dont know if zenoss will do that out of the box
[20-Nov-2008 01:45:14] **rhett1> monit i think does though
[20-Nov-2008 03:31:07] **Gecko> Anyone running the fping zenpack?
[20-Nov-2008 08:33:06] **cgibbons> howdy
[20-Nov-2008 09:17:39] **jb> oops
[20-Nov-2008 09:17:45] **jb> jmp, you here by chance?
[20-Nov-2008 10:03:27] **perr0> when we ask questions how do we address the devs?
[20-Nov-2008 10:03:49] **jb> just ask a question
[20-Nov-2008 10:03:51] **jb> they aren't here yet though
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:00] **perr0> they are late
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:09] **jb> theres mray..
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:15] **jb> hi
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:39] **mrayzenoss> I'm here
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:44] **mrayzenoss> I was just being shy
[20-Nov-2008 10:05:58] **mrayzenoss> So we should be joined by ECN today, but I'm ready for questions
[20-Nov-2008 10:06:22] **cgibbons> crickets
[20-Nov-2008 10:06:46] **mrayzenoss> cgibbons can answer your WMI questions
[20-Nov-2008 10:06:48] **jb> mray, my question is referring to a thread I have in the zenoss-dev forums/list regarding graphing the change in a datasource(integer) from poll to poll specifically using winperf..
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:00] **jb> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8085
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:09] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Graphing Averages (Day/Week/Month) (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:28] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I remember asking you to bring it up there. Still no progress?
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:39] **jb> well, it seems like I have made some progress using a regular SNMP datasource
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:42] **jb> but not using WinPerf
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:48] **jb> the numbers are just way off
[20-Nov-2008 10:08:30] **cgibbons> was that using the zenpack in enterprise that does winperf or the community one, jb?
[20-Nov-2008 10:08:37] **jb> im using enterprise..
[20-Nov-2008 10:08:50] **cgibbons> k, and with what version? (sorry if this is in the thread, multi-tasking)
[20-Nov-2008 10:09:35] **jb> 2.2.4
[20-Nov-2008 10:09:37] **perr0> mrayzenoss: to start off I have a simple question. I installed zenoss on a box which **was** also being used a syslog server. We learned that this is no fun especially when we have thousands of syslog messages coming through. Is there a way to disable this in zenoss but then would defeat one of the purposes.
[20-Nov-2008 10:10:49] **jb> cgibbons: the thread has a screenshot of the graph, and of the graph defintino
[20-Nov-2008 10:11:31] **cgibbons> k. i'm not sure about the rrd stuff myself, but i can throw out some info on the winperf info. in 2.2.4 and earlier collection was based upon the typeperf utility (which you can manually run on the windows server). in 2.3.x it's based upon direct polling of the data, so we've been working hard on making sure the data is accurate. it should also be accurate with typeperf as well but i'm not...
[20-Nov-2008 10:11:32] **cgibbons> ...sure if that utility does its own averaging.
[20-Nov-2008 10:11:47] **mrayzenoss> perr0: what's the issue specifically? That zensyslog is interfering with syslog?
[20-Nov-2008 10:12:03] **cgibbons> lemme look closer @ the thread
[20-Nov-2008 10:12:09] **mrayzenoss> perr0: or that performance sucks?
[20-Nov-2008 10:12:37] **__pok> goodday
[20-Nov-2008 10:13:01] **perr0> the perfomance is degraded badly so we are in the process of setting up syslog on another box
[20-Nov-2008 10:13:47] **jb> cgibbons: when using the "Test" function on the datasource, it is accurate.. but somehow by the time it gets to the graph, its not.. the goal here is basically take the difference between POLL A and POLL B to get the change..
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:01] **cgibbons> hey kells
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:10] **cgibbons> okay, cool. the test uses that typedef utility directly so that's a good sign.
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:21] **kells> Hey Chad!
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:25] **mrayzenoss> perr0: so the bottleneck for syslog events is probably the mysql database
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:52] **mrayzenoss> perr0: unless it's just a slow/low RAM system
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:58] **kells> Hmmm... I don't think the mysqltuner reference made it into the Admin Guide yet.
[20-Nov-2008 10:15:16] **mrayzenoss> kells: that's where I was headed
[20-Nov-2008 10:15:54] **mrayzenoss> perr0: There's a tool called mysqltuner (http://wiki.mysqltuner.com/MySQLTuner) that tells you how to tweak your mysql instance to get better performance
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:02] **adytum-bot> Title: MySQLTuner - MySQLTuner (at wiki.mysqltuner.com)
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:19] **perr0> mrayzenoss: thank you, I did that already but it didn
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:38] **perr0> t help much, at this point we are moving on to have syslog on another box
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:59] **jb> this has to be somethign simple.
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:05] **cgibbons> quite likely
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:05] **jb> since it works with snmp datasources
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:33] **jb> is winperf returning multiple values per poll?
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:35] **jb> or just oen
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:38] **mrayzenoss> hmmm... could you open a ticket as an enhancement? Outline what you did and maybe we can improve syslog processing performance at some point
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:47] **cgibbons> hurm you know I think it returns multiple ones
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:53] **jb> that could be the problem
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:58] **jb> i know it returns multiple when using "Test"
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:10] **jb> if its returning multiple, the values will be all messed up
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:21] **cgibbons> yeah. can you run zenwinperf from the commannd line to see what kind of output you get there?
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:34] **jb> let me see if I can parse thru that again.
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:35] **jb> sec
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:51] **cgibbons> 2.3.1 should be out in a couple of days hopefully
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:34] **perr0> mrayzenoss: where you talking to me about syslog?
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:43] **mrayzenoss> perr0: yes please
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:50] **jb> i'll probably upgrade when 2.3.1 comes out
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:54] **perr0> that would actually be great, I will do that cause it really hurts
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:11] **jb> cgibbons: should zenwinperf ever actually complete?
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:15] **cgibbons> the winperf stuff is completely different, and a should be a whole lot better. the internals are different so it scales better, etc.
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:20] **jb> it seems to just sit indefintely
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:23] **mrayzenoss> perr0: so you're doing what order of magnatude? tens a second? hundreds?
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:38] **cgibbons> depends upon how you run it. zenwinperf run -v10 -d blahblah; would be ideal, no -c flag.
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:45] **jb> thats what I'm doing..
[20-Nov-2008 10:21:06] **perr0> mrayzenoss: syslog messages? probably hundreds
[20-Nov-2008 10:21:24] **mrayzenoss> yeah, we probably have some work to do there, sorry
[20-Nov-2008 10:21:37] **jb> cgibbons: sort of hard to understand the output.. i don't see actual values in the logs
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:00] **cgibbons> shoot. i didn't work with the older version much so i don't know off the top of my head how it works. i was hoping it would dump the typeperf output.
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:26] **garnica> wow..... I am still using 2.1.3 'cause I am still planning upgrade to 2.3... any suggestion ??
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:36] **jb> heh.. prepare for the worst.
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:44] **mrayzenoss> garnica: The upgrade path is 2.1.3->2.2.4->2.3
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:48] **perr0> mrayzenoss: np, I am so thankful for zenoss. You guys do great work
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:54] **__pok> cgibbons: so you're saying I could just as well just wait a few days instead of upgrading from 2.2.4 to 2.3.0 today?
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:55] **mrayzenoss> perr0: Thanks!
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:24] **garnica> mrayzenoss, ok I''ll check it out
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:26] **cgibbons> 2.3.1 is just the enterprise release of 2.3.0, with a few fixes in the enterprise zenpacks over 2.3.0
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:29] **jb> cgibbons: if winperf is returning multiple values, then I think this will screw everything up..
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:54] **perr0> if you guys had a wish list of redbull or something I'd send you some
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:24] **cgibbons> yeah. i think ecn will know for sure if he wakes up let me see if i've got a 2.2.4 instance somewhere to look
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:31] **ericnewton> huh, wha?
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:32] **jb> ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:41] **jb> ecn.. we are working on http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8085
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:43] **mrayzenoss> perr0: maybe we can catch up at a conference or something.
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Graphing Averages (Day/Week/Month) (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:52] **jb> ecn: using 2.2.4 enterprise/winperf
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:11] **garnica> what is the recommended os for running zenoss ?? RHEL 5 ?? Cent OS ?? Fedora ??
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:24] **jb> garnica: rhel/cent will be fine..
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:28] **jb> we are running cent5.2/x64 here
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:30] **mrayzenoss> garnica: Most of our enterprise customers use rhel/centos
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:57] **cgibbons> ecn: we're trying to figure out if the old winperf collector maybe returned multiple values at once?
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:02] **garnica> ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:13] **ericnewton> define "returned"
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:37] **jb> when zenwinperf queries a winperf datasource, is it returning a single value?
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:47] **jb> i'm trying to graph the difference between two polls
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:55] **jb> it works fine with SNMP datasources, but not winperf
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:59] **ericnewton> yes, a single value
[20-Nov-2008 10:27:13] **jb> hm, well then I have no idea where its getting these numbers
[20-Nov-2008 10:27:49] **ericnewton> is it the case that windows is turning your counter into a gauge value? I don't think I understand what the problem is
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:10] **jb> the problem is outlined with a screenshot in that thread
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:28] **jb> the graph is showing a very large number that doesn't make sense
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:36] **jb> larger than the actual value of the counter
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:51] **jb> for example.. the datasource is returning 5801588
[20-Nov-2008 10:29:12] **jb> hm
[20-Nov-2008 10:29:13] **jb> Unable to retrieve zenwinperf counter \IMSS(IMSS)\Connections denied by NRS for rgxxcrptmgw01.corp.follett.com
[20-Nov-2008 10:29:25] **jb> wonder why that is.. it works fine when I hit "Test"
[20-Nov-2008 10:34:24] **jb> im testing with a new winperf datasource now
[20-Nov-2008 10:34:31] **ericnewton> jb: is it possible that the rrd file was created before with the wrong spec?
[20-Nov-2008 10:34:53] **jb> ericnew: i created a new graph definition to test that..
[20-Nov-2008 10:35:08] **jb> im going to see what pops up in this new graph/datasource as soon as it starts to populate
[20-Nov-2008 10:35:10] **ericnewton> with a new datapoint name?
[20-Nov-2008 10:35:26] **jb> hm, good point.. I deleted the datapoint and recreated it, but I think I used the same name.
[20-Nov-2008 10:37:40] **jb> I'll recreate it now.
[20-Nov-2008 10:38:06] **kells> Looking for some feedback on the Dev Guide, specifically the 2.3 version. Thoughts?
[20-Nov-2008 10:39:33] **ericnewton> cool... ian just twittered that Zenoss is #1 at SourceForge
[20-Nov-2008 10:39:46] **mrayzenoss> ericnewton: That's just currently for the day
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:00] **jb> kells: we need details on how to create custom modelers!
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:16] **jb> how to easily fill in values such as "Serial Number, HW Mftg, etc"
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:17] **perr0> mrayzenoss: I have to have zenoss pro or enterprise before I can raise a ticket?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:22] **kells> So the section on that in the guide didn't help?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:24] **ericnewton> mray: right... still cool
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:31] **jb> it's just a placeholder right now
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:32] **jb> I think?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:35] **jb> let me doublel check.
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:39] **kells> In 2.3.1?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:45] **jb> ooh, i havent seen 2.3.1
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:46] **jb> sorry
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:47] **mrayzenoss> perr0: only for support. You can open a defect http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:47] **kells> Sorry, in the 2.3 Dev Guide?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:56] **jb> let me grab it.
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:00] **mrayzenoss> perr0: no guarantees that it will get worked on immediately, but at least it will be under consideration and get reviewed. I'm doing a little syslog and not seeing issues, but I don't know about other users and their scalability
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:07] **kells> There might be a refresh of the Dev Guide in both PDF and HTML when 2.3.2 comes out. The Dcobook source is there (sans XSL ) so it can be created for the impatient.
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:29] **jb> this is in the dev guide, right?
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:33] **jb> (the modeler stuff)
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:37] **ericnewton> perr0: you are having issues with syslog scalability with a hundred messages per second?
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:53] **kells> In the last week or so there's been further doc updates with typo fixes, diagrams and (today) some more stuff that will be coming up in 2.4
[20-Nov-2008 10:43:38] **kells> Section 10: Adding a new Device Type
[20-Nov-2008 10:43:42] **perr0> ericnewton: yes, the box is down right now so I can't tell you the exact number of messages. I know by the days end, the log is almost 10 gigs
[20-Nov-2008 10:43:58] **jb> chapter 10?
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:03] **kells> There's also two new sections: Chapter 9 Zenoss Daemons and Chapter 10: Add a Performance Daemon
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:12] **perr0> not 100% sure at this time
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:25] **jb> ah god it.
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:26] **jb> got
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:43] **ericnewton> perr0: ok... interesting... the other event collectors handle up to 2K events/sec
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:45] **jb> kells: I'll take a look at that.. thanks.
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:02] **jb> oh nice! AIX examples.
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:04] **ericnewton> perr0: usually on some fast hardware (like the Zenoss large appliance)
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:04] **pjz> Howdy, I just set up Zenoss and am getting a ton of false alarms because some of the machines I'm monitoring are virtual and so a bit slow to respond... how do I up the timeout threshold ?
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:04] **kells> Just to warn you that the formatting for the Dev Guide is still absolutely terrible.
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:47] **kells> I should also admit that I haven't updated the AIX zenpack even though people have contributed bugfixes etc. Doh!
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:52] **ericnewton> pjz: SNMP timeouts?
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:01] **pjz> ericnewton: yes
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:09] **ericnewton> there's a zProperty for that
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:15] **pjz> Message:
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:15] **pjz> IP Service smtp TIMEOUT waiting for '220'
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:18] **tr_> How does zenoss map an SNMP trap to a given EventClass? I have a problem with a trap being identified with an invalid EventClass
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:39] **pjz> okay, how do I find it?
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:50] **jb> ok, come on graphs.
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:51] **perr0> mrayzenoss: I don't expect this to get worked on right away. I am happy with moving zenoss to a different box. We tried doing a few steps such as the mysql tuner script, we disabled rdns in syslog, but to no avail the .python.bin was eating up all the CPU
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:58] **pjz> ericnewton: is that zCommandTimeout?
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:16] **ericnewton> zSnmpTimeout
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:45] **jb> kells: so is there planned native AIX support since the documentation uses it?
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:49] **mrayzenoss> perr0: Yeah, a ticket will at least get it on our radar, maybe ericnewton will check it out in his free time
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:53] **jb> that would be great
[20-Nov-2008 10:48:21] **ericnewton> pjz: the default is 2.5 seconds
[20-Nov-2008 10:48:49] **pjz> ericnewton: yeah, I upped that to 5
[20-Nov-2008 10:48:55] **kells> jb: In the 2.4 release there is a plan to add more support for the Big 3 Unices
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:11] **jb> big 3 unices?
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:15] **jb> ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:17] **jb> good
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:18] **kells> Solaris, AIX, HPUX
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:23] **perr0> I hate to pest, but I am on the link you provided, can't login. I would hate to let this go and not provide good information on this concern
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:25] **jb> cause my AIX is a hackjob right now
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:29] **jb> using net-snmp and aix's snmpd
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:30] **ericnewton> perr0: it would be nice to know which python program was the problem child: zenhub or zensyslog
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:37] **jb> i'l love to redo it
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:40] **jb> i'd
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:52] **kells> AIX's snmpd is, errmmm, a little interesting to deal with at times.
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:13] **jb> heh yes.
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:15] **jb> to say the least
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:16] **mrayzenoss> perr0: username zenoss
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:21] **kells> Personally, I've had a few issues with it going down, but it may have been my environment.
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:27] **jb> which is why I use net-snmp and proxy certain mib's to it
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:31] **jb> but I don't like having to do that
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:39] **pjz> ericnewton: oh, oop, okay, so I'm also getting SMTP timeouts waiting for a 220 response
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:43] **mrayzenoss> perr0: password zenoss
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:55] **kells> I haven't tried the AIX 6.1 series snmpd though, so maybe that's better.
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:01] **jb> kells: so the AIX implementation would use strictly AIX's snmpd, no net-snmp?
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:03] **kells> jb: Are you using VIO servers?
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:03] **jb> i haven't either..
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:06] **jb> yesd
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:10] **ericnewton> perr0: zenhub scalability is improved in 2.3.1
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:11] **perr0> mrayzenoss: thank you much
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:13] **jb> not monitoring them currently though
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:15] **jb> but I would love to.
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:47] **ericnewton> pjz: is this a command test (a nagios style plugin?)
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:50] **kells> They're running the native AIX snmpd, so the ZenPack.community.AIX zenpack might help.
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:20] **jb> kells: also using some custom scripts to get the serial number/AIX version.. so please keep this in mind when developing native support.. these are important
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:20] **pjz> ericnewton: uhh... it's whatever default smtp monitoring shows up when you tell zenoss something is a linux host
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:27] **kells> The native AIX, Solaris, HPUX support is geared towards SSH-modeling, not SNMP. (Only so many hours in a day. )
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:29] **jb> piping them in via net-snmp
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:41] **jb> ah ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:53:32] **kells> serial #, AIX version is gathered by the community.AIX zenpack. Getting it to work for some environments may be a challenge sometimes, though.
[20-Nov-2008 10:53:45] **jb> yeah i helped with that modeler code
[20-Nov-2008 10:54:16] **kells> "Implementation is trivial" is a phrase that *seems* helpful, but...
[20-Nov-2008 10:54:30] **kells> jb: Ahh, I *thought* that might have been you. Thanks!
[20-Nov-2008 10:54:42] **jb> oh hold up
[20-Nov-2008 10:55:05] **jb> are you kpg123?
[20-Nov-2008 10:55:25] **pjz> ericnewton: or, hrm, maybe I did set this up. It's not a nagios test, it's /IpService/Privileged/smtp
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:12] **jb> kpg123: I have been thinking about wiping my existing AIX/net-snmp/snmpd plan and trying the zenpack..
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:17] **jb> is it pretty much fully functional at this point?
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:24] **ericnewton> pjz: right, I'm just trying to figure out the answer
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:31] **jb> err. kells
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:33] **jb> sorry
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:34] **atrawog> jb: Writing an AIX modeler is pretty easy, what's tough is that there isn't support for volume group / logical volume / file system relationships in Zenoss.
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:52] **jb> yeah
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:57] **kells> jb: Since I joined Zenoss, I've switched to kells
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:06] **jb> kells: I wasn't aware you had joined zenoss
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:09] **jb> congrats
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:25] **kells> Thanks! It's been very fun! Lots of work, but very fun too!
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:29] **jb> kells: are you based out on anapolis?
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:32] **jb> or remote?
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:36] **kells> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:56] **jb> ah ok.. i'll be at zen offices in february, and I'd love to try and nail some of this AIX stuff out
[20-Nov-2008 10:58:10] **jb> atrawog: yeah, that would be a big project too.. at least for me.
[20-Nov-2008 10:58:37] **kells> atrawog: Unfortuntaely, the storage stuff is probably out of scope for the moment in 2.4. (Only so many hours in the day. )
[20-Nov-2008 10:58:54] **jb> ericnewton/cgibbons: works like a charm now.. used different datasource names!
[20-Nov-2008 10:59:13] **mrayzenoss> jb: awesome, could you followup on your forum thread with the fix?
[20-Nov-2008 10:59:17] **perr0> another quick question, how often are the install guides updated? Is the forum thought of the aid for users with their installation questions?
[20-Nov-2008 10:59:18] **jb> yep.
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:06] **mrayzenoss> perr0: The install guides get revved every time there's a new release and there's something new. So 2.3 added a bunch of stuff, and 2.3.2 will have the OSX stuff integrated into it
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:09] **ericnewton> pjz: zStatusConnectTimeout
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:34] **mrayzenoss> perr0: And yes, the forums are for Core support, with the IRC sessions every 2 weeks
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:58] **kells> Please take any comments about the 2.4 directions as being directions (of course) and not contractually binding etc
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:31] **jb> sure
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:39] **jb> kells: so as far as the AIX zenpack goes
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:41] **kells> Matt Ray's working on the full list
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:44] **jb> would you say its production-ready?
[20-Nov-2008 11:02:16] **jb> as far as monitoring ethernet interfaces, filesystems (not lvm), ip services/os processes, cpu/memory info, and perf graphs?
[20-Nov-2008 11:02:57] **jb> kells: also I privmsged you sometime ago about TSM.. are you currently doing anythign with TSM in zen?
[20-Nov-2008 11:03:25] **kells> I really hesitate to say that because I haven't put in some patches I've received from people and I haven't had an opportunity to fully exercise a lot of different things (ie it needs some TLC). I would think that it might be worth a try to see (in a limited deployment) how well it works for you.
[20-Nov-2008 11:03:41] **jb> sure
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:02] **perr0> good to know. Well, I just want to say thanks again to Eric and mrayzenoss for the great work. Cheers!
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:05] **kells> There are currently no plans for a TSM ZenPack. It needs some vocal enterprise supporters.
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:41] **kells> My focus during this release is simply bugfixes -- which is actually kinda fun and gets me to explore more of the codebase.
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:53] **jb> sure
[20-Nov-2008 11:05:09] **pjz> ericnewton: thanks@
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:12] **pjz> ericnewton: okay, last one: I'm getting: threshold of CPU Utilization not met: current value 0.12 ; it's coming from Perf/CPU but I can't find where to change that threshold
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:43] **ericnewton> go to that device
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:47] **jb> i think thats probably on the /Devices/Server template?
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:52] **kells> jb: I would love to create a TSM zenpack, but there's 250+ tickets waiting for me at the moment. And after the 2.4 release it will probably be a lot easier to do. Also, when TSM 6x comes out using the DB2 backend, that will also make things much easier to deal with at that point.
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:59] **ericnewton> pull the menu, and find "Templates
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:16] **jb> kells: awesome.. we are a TSM on AIX shop..
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:16] **kells> ie better ODBC support
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:29] **jb> i wonder if the windows version of TSM provides perfmon counters
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:36] **pjz> ericnewton: okay, found it, and /Devices/Server template
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:44] **kells> I'm pretty sure that it does
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:59] **kells> perfmon counters, that is
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:02] **jb> yeah
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:18] **ericnewton> pjz: all set then?
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:26] **jb> is TSM info available via snmp in AIX?
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:31] **kells> IIRC, Windows has been the primary platform for development of TSM since about the 4.x series.
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:39] **mrayzenoss> jb: If you really need a TSM ZenPack, you could probably contact Client Services and they'd work on it
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:49] **jb> ok
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:15] **kells> jb: There's some interesting things about the TSM SNMP support especially under AIX.
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:22] **jb> oh yeah?
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:30] **pjz> ericnewton: yah, that's the right place, I see
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:32] **pjz> ericnewton: thanks muchly
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:51] **kells> a) the variables avaiable aren't the ones that I want (that's probably always the case)
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:56] **mrayzenoss> Unless there's any more questions, I'm gonna let ericnewton off the hook to get back to work. kells and cgibbons were volunteers
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:06] **pjz> ericnewton: what's the 'Escalate count' ? does it have to exceed the threshold that many times before it warns?
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:37] * pjz apologizes for monopolizing ericnewton's time
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:40] **ericnewton> pjz: it just raises the priority by one after that many times
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:40] **kells> b) the "run an arbitrary command and get back the results" part seems useful, but doesn't seem to be that much better that just running the command through dsmc
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:04] **kells> c) AIX snmp subagent -- need I say any more?
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:08] **jb> no.
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:10] **jb>)
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:36] **pjz> ericnewton: priority or severity?
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:41] **ericnewton> severity
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:09] **pjz> got it! Thanks!
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:26] **Freezerburn> omg guys I just got zenoss up
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:33] **Freezerburn> whoooo! party time
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:35] **mrayzenoss> Freezerburn: congrats
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:12] **mrayzenoss> I've got another meeting I have to head off to, so I'm out of here. ericnewton and kells are on their own now
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:31] **kells> Doh! Have fun, matt!
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:33] **mrayzenoss> Thanks everybody
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:54] **ericnewton> yes, I have a meeting (and lunch) to get to, too
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:18] **ericnewton> see you in the forums!
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:50] **kells> It's probably time for me to head back to the bugs, too!
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:57] **jb> alrighty
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:58] **kells> Thanks jb, atrawog!
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:59] **jb> thanks guys.
[20-Nov-2008 11:15:11] **atrawog> goodby
[20-Nov-2008 11:15:23] **jb> atrawog, so are you using the aix zenpack?
[20-Nov-2008 11:16:03] **atrawog> Yes, with some ugly modifications.
[20-Nov-2008 11:16:33] **jb> anything not working for you?
[20-Nov-2008 11:17:27] **atrawog> We had to switch to ssh modeling (snmp doesn't work well on hacmp clusters).
[20-Nov-2008 11:17:45] **jb> hm, so you are modeling * over ssh?
[20-Nov-2008 11:17:56] **pjz> cool, the fixe eric gave me should cut down on the pile of zenoss email that I get every morning
[20-Nov-2008 11:19:35] **atrawog> Currently it's mixed. CPU + Hardware modelling + monitoring is done via SNMP and filesystems are monitored via ssh,
[20-Nov-2008 11:19:54] **jb> nice
[20-Nov-2008 11:20:24] **jb> im going to give it a try
[20-Nov-2008 11:20:31] **jb> the whole net-snmp thing is just too messy
[20-Nov-2008 11:21:26] **atrawog> My ugly addition is to add a zProperty called zVGonly to allow to model only filesytem on a certain VG.
[20-Nov-2008 11:21:33] **jb> ah ok
[20-Nov-2008 11:22:08] **pjz> someone needs to make a device class for openWRT routers
[20-Nov-2008 11:22:29] **pjz> their snmp seems to be a little different since I think it's busybox instead of net-snmp
[20-Nov-2008 11:23:25] **pjz> oh, nevermind, i take it back, it is netsnmp
[20-Nov-2008 11:24:11] **atrawog> Problem we had, was that filesystem ended up having different SNMP indexes after a cluster take over. SSH takes a lot more CPU cycles, but tends to be more robust than SNMP.
[20-Nov-2008 11:25:59] **pjz> atrawog: yeah,I ended up doing something similar with nagios at one point ; ended up writing kind of an snmp-analogue status reporting script for the remote box that a custom thingy would take apart and interpret locally
[20-Nov-2008 11:26:41] **pjz> atrawog: nice thing was that nagios was smart enough to cache so I could have a bunch of things claim to execute that if they needed it, but it would only happen once really
[20-Nov-2008 11:28:06] **atrawog> Our HACMP cluster have up to 100 filesystem split over two nodes and up to six resource groups with extra IPs. So without modifications you end up seeing 100 filessystem eight times .
[20-Nov-2008 11:28:30] **jb> heh
[20-Nov-2008 11:28:31] **jb> yeah
[20-Nov-2008 11:30:58] **atrawog> pjz:Zenoss is smart enough open one ssh session per device, but you still end up doing dozend of 'df -h | grep something'.
[20-Nov-2008 11:35:11] **pjz> atrawog: ick. Can you somehow just do a 'df' and get zenoss (or something higher up the chain) to do the grepping?
[20-Nov-2008 11:38:09] **atrawog> pjz:I'm thinking about doing something like that in the future. But haven't found an easy way to do it.
[20-Nov-2008 13:36:22] **zenChild> Anyone out there have luck creating Synthetic Transactions for OWA?
[20-Nov-2008 14:08:00] **jb> ive been meaning to give that a try..
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[21-Nov-2008 08:31:08] **MAlexHerron> is there anyone active here right now?
[21-Nov-2008 08:31:29] **MAlexHerron> im having sort of a meltdown while upgrading from 2.2.0 to 2.3
[21-Nov-2008 08:31:33] **MAlexHerron> with the stack install
[21-Nov-2008 08:31:45] **MAlexHerron> using zenbackup, zenrestore, and zenmigrate
[21-Nov-2008 08:32:30] **MAlexHerron> zeoctl did not start at first...and now there seems to be an issue starting mysql with ZENHOME/mysql/scripts/ctl.sh
[21-Nov-2008 08:32:35] **MAlexHerron> not a good morning
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:14] **flosoft> hi
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:37] **flosoft> I had some questions about Zenoss
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:44] **flosoft> I come from Nagios, and wanted to ask. I want to ping hosts, and then check http or xmpp
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:49] **flosoft> and then notify on fault different groups
[21-Nov-2008 09:21:05] **flosoft> when I add a new server it asks me for Systems and Groups
[21-Nov-2008 09:21:09] **flosoft> what is the difference?
[21-Nov-2008 09:21:24] **flosoft> where can I create the templates for the services?
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:18] **MAlexHerron> you may want to look into the http monitor zenpack
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:22] **flosoft> right
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:35] **flosoft> I looked at the HowTo, but that failed completely
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:43] **flosoft> I ended up with a machine that I can't find anywhere
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:04] **MAlexHerron> have you tried adding the same IP again? it will tell you if that IP is found on an existing device
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:26] **flosoft> hmm
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:40] **flosoft> ok, let's say I want to monitor an XMPP server
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:46] **flosoft> I want to monitor ping and XMPP
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:51] **flosoft> I installed the zenpack
[21-Nov-2008 09:26:25] **flosoft> so where do I create a monitoring template?
[21-Nov-2008 09:30:20] **MAlexHerron> honestly, no idea... i have not created templlates for my installation... if you want to talk writing python in the transforms for your traps... i can help ya... but im currently dealing with an upgrade causing a meltdown
[21-Nov-2008 09:30:22] **MAlexHerron> what a day
[21-Nov-2008 09:31:01] **flosoft>
[21-Nov-2008 09:31:04] **flosoft> good luck with that
[21-Nov-2008 09:38:04] **jb> upgrade from what to what?
[21-Nov-2008 10:34:46] **zenChild> I am running 2.2.4 and noticed that in the ethernetCsmacd template the label for ifInOctets is set to Outbound and the label for ifoutOctets is set to Inbound. Is this consistent with what other people are seeing and is it a know bug?
[21-Nov-2008 21:24:40] **MAlexHerron> anybody awake?
[21-Nov-2008 21:24:53] **MAlexHerron> that knows how to stop all snmp polling
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[22-Nov-2008 12:21:38] **MAlexHerron> anyone alive here?
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[24-Nov-2008 07:06:12] **Weetos> Hi there
[24-Nov-2008 07:58:54] **goschtl> Hi is there a quick start guide for zenoss available?
[24-Nov-2008 08:08:49] **dethstar> goschtl, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[24-Nov-2008 08:08:57] **adytum-bot^> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:05] **Cosmin> hello
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:12] **Cosmin> i have a question about enterprise
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:19] **Cosmin> i currently have core
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:34] **Cosmin> and i wasnt to know if i update if i can keep my configs
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:40] **Cosmin> or i need to start from 0
[24-Nov-2008 08:17:24] **Cosmin> anyone?
[24-Nov-2008 08:29:43] **dethstar> Cosmin, i have no idea, I've only run the core ver.
[24-Nov-2008 08:38:20] **Cosmin> ok
[24-Nov-2008 08:57:13] **breun> I'd like to check for 200 OK messages when monitoring apache http and https
[24-Nov-2008 08:57:29] **breun> the IpServices in Zenoss don't seem to do that
[24-Nov-2008 08:57:58] **breun> the docs have an example using the nagios check_http plugin to check for specific content on a page: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch15s02.html
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:10] **breun> I only need the 200 OK check really
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:12] **adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:35] **breun> the docs tell me to create a new device, without snmp
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:57] **breun> do I really need to do that or can I add the check_http plugin to an existing device that is already monitored using snmp?
[24-Nov-2008 09:59:20] **CamargoBP_> Good day! Can zenoss check an email box and parse it's content to make alerts?
[24-Nov-2008 10:15:50] **garnica> that's a good idea CamargoBP_
[24-Nov-2008 11:17:59] **zenChild> Anyone see this after upgrading to 2.3.1? I have confirmed that zenhub is indeed running.
[24-Nov-2008 11:17:59] **zenChild> "Timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running?"
[24-Nov-2008 11:36:43] **Brixius> Hello, I'm having a problem modeling a device, zenmodel is giving me a error dump on IpUtil.py line 129, in maskToBits Invalid Literal for int(): None
[24-Nov-2008 11:37:16] **Brixius> I'm running Core 2.3.0
[24-Nov-2008 11:41:30] **Brixius> Anyone there?
[24-Nov-2008 15:46:09] **Brixius> Must be a dead channel, I've been in here for 5 hrs and nobody but me has said anything.
[24-Nov-2008 15:46:23] **Brixius> I think I hear an echo....
[24-Nov-2008 16:10:25] **magnachef> echo
[24-Nov-2008 16:10:30] **magnachef> echo
[24-Nov-2008 16:10:45] **magnachef> the forums are usually more active
[24-Nov-2008 16:11:13] **magnachef> then again, it is a holiday week (in the US)
[24-Nov-2008 16:14:38] **huggie> Heh, not sure I've seen this channel busy.
[24-Nov-2008 16:14:54] **huggie> Though there was a day when the developers were here recently I think.
[24-Nov-2008 16:15:02] **huggie> There doesn't seem to be much zenoss community.
[24-Nov-2008 16:15:19] **magnachef> there is, most of them congregate in the forums though
[24-Nov-2008 17:46:40] **jake_> Hey guys, In the dashboard I want to add the Locations column. Does any1 know of an easy way to do this ?
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[24-Nov-2008 18:05:03] **garnica> jake_: have you tried to add a portlet already ?
[24-Nov-2008 18:06:38] **notjake> garnica, I actually wanted to do it within the Device List template so it would be "ID, IP, Class, Location, event Summary"
[24-Nov-2008 18:06:54] **notjake> instead of IP, IP Class, Prod State, Event Summary
[24-Nov-2008 18:06:59] **notjake> err s/IP/ID
[24-Nov-2008 18:07:33] **notjake> I edited a few page templates, Although I can't get it to reflect my changes at all
[24-Nov-2008 18:08:31] **garnica> ok... so you want to add "Location" field in the device list...
[24-Nov-2008 18:08:40] **garnica> not in the dashboard
[24-Nov-2008 18:09:48] **notjake> garnica: lol, Sorry yes. Brain isnt functioning properly
[24-Nov-2008 18:10:19] **garnica> no problem.....
[24-Nov-2008 18:11:23] **garnica> I don't know.... but feel like is possible.... looking for it in development guide
[24-Nov-2008 18:15:56] **notjake> Yeah, I couldnt see anything in there about it. But even editing page templates and stuff the changes never showed up... Is there a debug mode I can put it into within the web interface ?
[24-Nov-2008 18:19:45] **garnica> not sure about a debugging mode in the web interface....
[24-Nov-2008 18:20:12] **garnica> have you tried using the zope management interface ?
[24-Nov-2008 18:21:17] **garnica> just add 'manage' to your zenoss url like: "http://myzenoss:8080/manage"
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[25-Nov-2008 08:36:11] **NoxIn-> hum ... the polling of the ipservices may cause some problems on mysql hosts (if the template mysql is not applied) ... after a moment the mysql blacklist the IP address : "ERROR 1129 (00000): Host '*****' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts'"
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[25-Nov-2008 09:14:40] **ke4qqq> hey guys - this is more of a stupid snmp question than anything - but I am trying to monitor printer supplies - so some are marked in units and others in percent..... however of the 6 supplies that I monitor, 5 return the value -3 and one returns a sane number. thoughts on that?
[25-Nov-2008 10:35:25] **caciano> hi
[25-Nov-2008 10:37:18] **garnica> what's up ?
[25-Nov-2008 10:41:37] **caciano> i want to store the information about vlans of devices in zenoss manually
[25-Nov-2008 10:41:58] **caciano> anyone has an idea of a good way of doing that?
[25-Nov-2008 10:42:29] **caciano> the device interfaces have been captured by snmp
[25-Nov-2008 10:42:48] **caciano> and now i want to populate (manually) with the vlans
[25-Nov-2008 11:00:37] **caciano> any idea?
[25-Nov-2008 11:01:16] **garnica> no idea
[25-Nov-2008 11:02:48] **caciano> and if i create a plugin/zenpack/whatever to help me? where can I start?
[25-Nov-2008 11:14:58] **garnica> downloading the Zenoss Development Guide, Zenoss Admin Guide
[25-Nov-2008 11:15:47] **garnica> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenpack-documentation/zenpack-faq
[25-Nov-2008 11:16:01] **adytum-bot^> Title: ZenPack FAQ - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Nov-2008 11:46:30] **Brixius> Hello, I'm looking at the zInterfaceIgnoreTypes field and trying to figure out if I'm suposed to use the SNMP numbers or textual names as in the InterfaceMap.py file. I want to ignore ds1 and ds3 ports. (18 and 30 of snmp interface type #'s) so I'm not sure what to put into this field.
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[25-Nov-2008 13:21:36] **Firestar> I'm trying to upgrade a Zenoss vmware image from 2.1.2 -> 2.2, but I'm getting the following error message:
[25-Nov-2008 13:22:03] **Firestar> too many shadow serial numbers in 'enterprise-2.2'
[25-Nov-2008 13:36:43] **ke4qqq> Firestar: why aren't you moving to 2.3?
[25-Nov-2008 13:45:18] **Firestar> ke4qqq, that's what I'm trying to do, but in order to get to 2.3 from 2.1.2, you have to upgrade to 2.2 first.
[25-Nov-2008 13:45:25] **Brixius> I was told that the conary upgrades were tested from 2.1.3 to newer. and to do an upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3 before going to 2.2 or 2.3
[25-Nov-2008 13:45:39] **ke4qqq> ahhh ok
[25-Nov-2008 13:51:46] **Brixius> ke4qqq: here's the post I had. http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8065
[25-Nov-2008 13:51:53] **adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Error Upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.2 or 2.3 (at forums.zenoss.com)
[25-Nov-2008 21:03:18] **fkruchio_> Hi Guys, new to Zenoss. Do you know if snmp v3 is supported ?
[25-Nov-2008 21:04:21] **fkruchio_> and another question, if you were to use ssh only how limited are you to collect information from servers/devices versus SNMP ?
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[26-Nov-2008 09:38:03] **chantra> hi there
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:15] **chantra> I am looking for a way to proxy request
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:40] **chantra> meaning that there is the main zenoss server which uses a collector to collect data from a LAN
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:51] **chantra> which is not accessible by zenpss main server
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:57] **chantra> is that achieveable?
[26-Nov-2008 09:39:03] **chantra> I failed to :s
[26-Nov-2008 12:59:40] **avegas_> so the RPN that zenoss uses in graph definitions isn't ordinary rpn, is it?
[26-Nov-2008 12:59:48] **avegas_> 1024,*,${here/hw/totalMemory},/,1,-,-100,*
[26-Nov-2008 12:59:59] **avegas_> doesn't seem inline with
[26-Nov-2008 13:00:06] **avegas_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:17] **avegas_> ah
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:20] **avegas_> http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/tut/rpntutorial.en.html
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:22] **avegas_> my bad
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:36] **adytum-bot^> Title: RRDtool - rpntutorial (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[26-Nov-2008 13:05:55] **cgibbons> acronym overload
[26-Nov-2008 13:09:29] **avegas_> it does seem like 1024,* isn't valid rpn as there aren't enough operands on the stack
[26-Nov-2008 13:13:09] **avegas_> ic, there is an implicit first argument
[26-Nov-2008 15:04:54] **fkruchio> Gate scanner issues in the air new zealand queue are not us, just leave it there for now please. I am monitoring it
[26-Nov-2008 15:06:24] **fkruchio> sorry wrong window.
[26-Nov-2008 15:16:22] **avegas_> fkruchio you at ita?
[26-Nov-2008 15:18:27] **fkruchio> sorry whats "ita" ?
[26-Nov-2008 15:30:14] **fkruchio> Hi, can Zenoss understand and use snmp v3 ?
[26-Nov-2008 15:48:45] **avegas_> here's a very specific question
[26-Nov-2008 15:49:02] **avegas_> setting up a data source to read off of
[26-Nov-2008 15:49:52] **avegas_> OID
[26-Nov-2008 15:49:55] **avegas_> 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.5.0
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:06] **avegas_> zenoss appears to get a value of
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:27] **avegas_> 27.96k
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:39] **avegas_> now, when I snmpget the same oid
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:41] **avegas_> I get
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:57] **avegas_> 8388608
[26-Nov-2008 15:51:04] **avegas_> which is correct
[26-Nov-2008 15:54:19] **avegas_> hmm, testing the value using the zenoss interface also seems to return the correct val
[26-Nov-2008 15:54:32] **avegas_> I guess maybe it is the RRD variable type
[26-Nov-2008 16:07:52] **Brixius> Hello
[26-Nov-2008 16:07:57] **Brixius> I have a question.
[26-Nov-2008 16:08:58] **Brixius> I'm trying to graph a tempature as returned from a netguardian. however it's returning a string, in the form of SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.2682.1.2.2.1.5.99.1.6 = STRING: "x....... 71.9860"
[26-Nov-2008 16:09:21] **Brixius> how would I setup a datasource to parse out the last part ie 71.9860.
[26-Nov-2008 16:10:46] **avegas_> Brixius, how would you feel about writing a MIB that would call a script that would snmpget the value, transform it as you so desire, and then return that as a different OID
[26-Nov-2008 16:10:52] **avegas_>
[26-Nov-2008 16:11:04] **avegas_> not that I actually know anything about zenoss
[26-Nov-2008 16:12:25] **Brixius> that would cause me to have to create another device that is running the script. The NetGuardian is a hardware appliance that monitors the environment of a remote datacenter.
[26-Nov-2008 16:13:21] **Brixius> I was kindof hoping there was a place I could put a transform for the datapoint that I could do some sort of filter to grab the data I need.
[26-Nov-2008 16:51:40] **avegas_> so, it looks to me like you can only do RRD tool rpn baloney
[26-Nov-2008 16:51:53] **avegas_> you will probably need to poke at the source
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[27-Nov-2008 03:17:13] **anggarda> zenoss or nagios?
[27-Nov-2008 03:17:45] **anggarda> I have been a nagios user for 2 years, and I'm considering zenoss.
[27-Nov-2008 05:18:52] **mustu> hello! i want to view my webinterface on network or web.. but it isn't working. how i can?
[27-Nov-2008 07:24:42] **mustu> anyone alive?
[27-Nov-2008 07:57:38] **daans> hello... I'm having some troubles with setting device ACL's someone here that can help me out...
[27-Nov-2008 07:57:45] **daans> ??
[27-Nov-2008 08:29:38] **daans> I figured it out....
[27-Nov-2008 09:01:54] **chantra> hi there
[27-Nov-2008 09:20:39] **daans> can anyone help me out with the combination google and acl's ? I have a user with no standard role, but a role for certain locations. Now I want that user to be able to see the status of that location on the dashboard...
[27-Nov-2008 09:21:37] **daans> this is however not werking. I managed to get the google portlet to show up, but in the portlet I get a login script instead of google maps
[27-Nov-2008 09:21:46] **daans> werking=working
[27-Nov-2008 09:21:55] **daans> ??
[27-Nov-2008 09:47:45] **chantra> guys, is there a way to get zenoss to accept 2 devices with the same IP ?
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:01] **chantra> I like to use the collector to access devices in a lan.
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:06] **chantra> so far, it seems:
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:18] **chantra> 1. the server will not accept a device that it cannot access
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:57] **chantra> 2. if I have a second device with the same IP, the server will link this device to the one created first
[27-Nov-2008 09:49:02] **chantra> is that correct?
[27-Nov-2008 09:49:04] **chantra> cheers
[27-Nov-2008 10:00:16] **daans> You have two different collectors? Else I can't see how this is possible...
[27-Nov-2008 12:22:56] **mustu> seems everyone here is ZZzzzzZZZzzz!
[27-Nov-2008 12:23:12] * mustu Zzz
[27-Nov-2008 12:23:26] * mustu is gonna ZZzzZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZ!
[27-Nov-2008 23:02:47] **SpunkMeYeR> hi all
[27-Nov-2008 23:03:15] **SpunkMeYeR> is zenoss support sending alert via sms?
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[28-Nov-2008 07:53:55] **maaarek> Question: If I don't have load average graps but I receive disp space graph... where the problem could be?
[28-Nov-2008 07:54:00] **maaarek> HI.
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[29-Nov-2008 05:45:18] **khalavak> can anybody give me some pointers to getting graphs out of modeling with ssh?
[29-Nov-2008 15:44:52] **krphop> hmm, seems like the latest version of zenoss doesnt read load averages correctly from snmp linux hosts?
[29-Nov-2008 15:45:04] **krphop> I get the 5 minute average, but 1 and 15 stay at 0
[29-Nov-2008 15:45:09] **krphop> or .01 rather
[01-Nov-2008 06:25:19] **julianms> who
[01-Nov-2008 06:25:40] **julianms> i'm alone here?
[01-Nov-2008 08:27:58] **huggie> Well, it seems to be a channel of questions.
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[01-Nov-2008 17:28:14] **julianms> ok, im trying to manually write an ipAddress of an Device interface using AddInterface, but it doesn't take changes, i also tried to update this attribute manually trought console but i culdn't so i would be very happy if some one could tell me how to do this.
[01-Nov-2008 17:28:41] **julianms> well if some one see this message writeme back to julian@bidda.net
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[03-Nov-2008 16:12:55] **Evolution> stupid question, but I've been through the docs and I'm missing something simple I think. How do I enable checks/perf output from a zenpack? for example the iis6 community pack
[03-Nov-2008 16:14:19] **Evolution> I've added the windows server device, with snmp enabled. I'm able to get cacti to graph the iis bits, but I'm not familiar with zenoss enough to see how to do this?
[03-Nov-2008 16:14:23] **Evolution> pointers, doco?
[03-Nov-2008 16:18:37] **huggie> There aren't many people answering questions here. If you added the server and then later added the IIS pack you might need to remodel the device though.
[03-Nov-2008 16:18:45] **huggie> (I think by default it remodels every 6 hours)
[03-Nov-2008 16:19:42] **Evolution> arrow, manage-> model device, yes?
[03-Nov-2008 16:19:49] **Evolution> (thanks for the pointer)
[03-Nov-2008 16:49:11] **ke4qqq> hey guys - I have zenoss-2.2.4-75.el5 running on CentOS 5 - when I try and start zensyslog I get http://fpaste.org/paste/8461
[03-Nov-2008 16:49:17] **ke4qqq> anyone know a solution to the above?
[03-Nov-2008 16:49:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #8461 (at fpaste.org)
[03-Nov-2008 16:54:37] **rhett___> i am unsure
[03-Nov-2008 18:02:29] **ke4qqq> anyone know why zenoss would suddenly stop sending email alerts?
[03-Nov-2008 18:09:29] **rhett___> is zenhub running?
[03-Nov-2008 18:10:25] **ke4qqq> yes
[03-Nov-2008 18:11:19] **rhett___> service zenoss status gives you a running pid of each process?
[03-Nov-2008 18:11:50] **ke4qqq> yes and zenhub is running, the only thing that isn't is zensyslog
[03-Nov-2008 18:13:15] **rhett___> hm. i am unsure. if yous end a test email does it go through?
[03-Nov-2008 18:15:22] **ke4qqq> rhett___: yeah using the mail command works
[03-Nov-2008 18:28:09] **zenoss> any comments on zenoss 2.3 beta ??
[03-Nov-2008 18:39:49] **rhett___> i have none. i just installed it this morning since 2.2.4 seems to be removed port monitors for certain hosts
[03-Nov-2008 18:40:23] **rhett___> i was getting errors when trying zenrestore so i figured it just let it discover devices and it gave an errors to for the lmstats mib but thats about it so far
[03-Nov-2008 18:42:35] **ke4qqq> the upgrade process is soooo painful with zenoss.
[03-Nov-2008 18:44:17] **zenoss> yep
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:18] **zenoss> I was close to jump off from a 6 story building trying to upgrade from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:44] **Bart> hm, i did that upgrade without any problems. Maybe I'm just lucky
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:48] **zenoss> had to upgrade "manually"
[03-Nov-2008 18:45:49] **ke4qqq> zenoss: I spent three days attempting and then just completely reimaged the machine.
[03-Nov-2008 18:48:06] **zenoss> I am installing 2.3 beta expecting to see the impovements......
[03-Nov-2008 18:50:38] **MAlexHerron> anyone notice any issues loading cisco routers on a working zen installation? i can snmpwalk, but zen is not listing OS information
[03-Nov-2008 18:52:14] **MAlexHerron> i.e. the snmp description... it worked momentarily, and then not... even when i deleted the device that it worked on, and tried reloading it
[03-Nov-2008 18:52:18] **MAlexHerron> no snmp desc
[03-Nov-2008 19:03:37] **rhett___> i just intalled 2.3 in a base centos5.2 vm to see how it flys
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[04-Nov-2008 13:36:58] **evil-lw> so it seems I've run into a bug regarding downtime windows and the DST chagne, where my windows are being un-set an hour early for some odd reason
[04-Nov-2008 13:37:18] **evil-lw> s/downtime/maintenanace windows/
[04-Nov-2008 13:52:43] **npmccallum> evil-lw: I think its a known issue, patch forthcoming
[04-Nov-2008 14:24:07] **uwe> hello, i want to send alert only if ping fails twice, do i do it by setting count >= 2 ? correct ?
[04-Nov-2008 14:26:59] **evil-lw> npmccallum: cool
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[05-Nov-2008 13:39:19] **evil-lw> so I have a large number of services being monitored that have child threads... on older kernels with the threading display model that shows each thread as a process... well zenprocess alarms saying that the process restarted when threads disappear or change pids... any hints or am I just doomed to dropping process restart alarms?
[05-Nov-2008 14:18:04] **dorferiferon> anyone here understand much about exec'ing commands from snmpd and having the data returned in an integer rather than a string format? 2.2.[123] did this without a problem and and now all i get are string returning and it is playing hell on my graphs.
[05-Nov-2008 14:18:32] **dorferiferon> is there a way to tell a data point it is not a string being returned?
[05-Nov-2008 14:23:25] **dorferiferon> no one can help me on this one?
[05-Nov-2008 15:14:23] **evil-lw> dorferiferon: use an intermediate script so you return the data using a local command that connects out over snmp, that way you have "variable=1234 variable2=10201" instead of snmp oids as a bunch of data sources
[05-Nov-2008 15:34:42] **dorferiferon> i might be missing you... i was polling th enumber of emails in a db_queue v/sendmail stats. it was exec'ed from snmp
[05-Nov-2008 15:34:53] **dorferiferon> only difference was 2.2.4
[05-Nov-2008 15:36:58] **dorferiferon> evil-lw: are you saying i should return the values as commands run from ssh?
[05-Nov-2008 15:37:04] **evil-lw> hmm, i'm still on 2.2.3 and using external commands for some of the graph data collection
[05-Nov-2008 15:37:42] **evil-lw> well, i have an script that acts as a wrapper... so the command executes locally, which then connects out to the remote host and collects the snmp variables and feeds it back to zenoss as var=value
[05-Nov-2008 15:37:53] **evil-lw> on one line, for all the data points
[05-Nov-2008 15:38:52] **dorferiferon> do you happen to have a generic code snippet to share
[05-Nov-2008 15:39:41] **evil-lw> yeah, one moment
[05-Nov-2008 15:40:45] **dorferiferon> evil-lw: i really appreciate it man.
[05-Nov-2008 15:44:31] **evil-lw> I have a script that executes "snmpget -Ov -OU -c $1 -v1 $2 1.3.6.1.4.1.99999.1.blahblahblahrestofOID|sed s/STRING:\ \"//|sed s/\"//", value one being the community string from zenoss, value 2 being the host. That command returns "Database OK | user_count=14 active_threads=0 database_size=698112156 backup_size=214155412 workfolder_size=6796228 dumped_searches=0 backup_failed=0 license=0 errors=0"
[05-Nov-2008 15:44:46] **evil-lw> I then use those data points from the one command to do graphing/thresholds
[05-Nov-2008 16:14:08] **garnica> Using zenoss 2.1.3 I have created a performance graph of some device with a threshold of max 60% to create a warning.... it went all ok... 2 months later I want to reset this threshold to the value of 66%
[05-Nov-2008 16:14:45] **garnica> no error messages received... apparently the threshold reset to 66% was succesfull
[05-Nov-2008 16:15:12] **garnica> but looking at notification mails I realize that it keeps considering 60% as threshold
[05-Nov-2008 16:15:21] **garnica> like if no changes were made
[05-Nov-2008 16:16:10] **garnica> what could be happening ?? any ideas ??
[05-Nov-2008 17:16:33] **NoxIn-> Hellop
[05-Nov-2008 17:59:29] **garnica> what's up !
[05-Nov-2008 21:40:17] **nemo2> garnica, how long did you give it ?
[05-Nov-2008 21:58:58] **garnica> i'm back sorry
[05-Nov-2008 21:59:56] **garnica> nemo2 around 2 days long !
[05-Nov-2008 22:00:34] **nemo2> ok long enough
[05-Nov-2008 22:01:25] **garnica> yep...
[05-Nov-2008 22:02:33] **garnica> I was thinking on looking at python's source code...
[05-Nov-2008 22:02:57] **garnica> maybe I can see something from there
[05-Nov-2008 22:03:17] **garnica> I have also tried remodeling the device..... but no success
[05-Nov-2008 22:12:28] **nemo2> i would delete caches etc ( .zec and .pickle )
[05-Nov-2008 22:19:40] **rhett__> i hate pickles
[05-Nov-2008 23:35:42] **garnica> what is a pickle for ??
[05-Nov-2008 23:37:59] **nemo2> i cant remember
[05-Nov-2008 23:38:14] **nemo2> if i have those kind of issues, i stop zenoss, delete those and restart
[05-Nov-2008 23:38:29] **garnica> let me try that.......
[05-Nov-2008 23:38:38] **nemo2> they get rebuilt and most inconsistancies i have experied got solved that way
[05-Nov-2008 23:39:40] **nemo2> you should prob google it , just to understand it to
[05-Nov-2008 23:39:53] **nemo2> never a good idea to randomnly type stuff from irc
[05-Nov-2008 23:50:48] **garnica> thanks anyway
[05-Nov-2008 23:52:41] **nemo2> worked out your issue ?
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[06-Nov-2008 00:04:41] **garnica> I'll have to wait.... until level raises above 66 %
[06-Nov-2008 00:17:46] **garnica> yep.... confirmed
[06-Nov-2008 00:17:52] **garnica> it worked !
[06-Nov-2008 00:17:57] **garnica> thanks dude
[06-Nov-2008 01:10:50] **garnica> see 'ya
[06-Nov-2008 04:07:34] **rhett> hi
[06-Nov-2008 04:07:49] **davetoo> Jo?
[06-Nov-2008 07:40:05] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[06-Nov-2008 07:40:17] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[06-Nov-2008 15:41:52] **NoxIn-> Hello all
[06-Nov-2008 15:45:04] **NoxIn-> I discovered zenoss a few days ago and I was wondering... in the docs it seems that it do SNMP v1 ... is SNMP v3 supported or planed ?
[06-Nov-2008 15:47:23] **garnica> I have not tested it.... but it seems to me that snmp v3 is supported
[06-Nov-2008 15:47:56] **garnica> have you any device monitored through snmp ?
[06-Nov-2008 15:49:23] **NoxIn-> not right now, but in the zProperties I see only the communauty name, no snmp username or password
[06-Nov-2008 15:50:18] **garnica> ok.... do to the device list then select any device
[06-Nov-2008 15:50:32] **garnica> then you go to zProperties
[06-Nov-2008 15:51:04] **garnica> I can see snmpPrivType.... choices are DES or AES
[06-Nov-2008 15:51:17] **garnica> zSnmpSecurityName
[06-Nov-2008 15:51:46] **garnica> even zSnmpVer ... choices are v1, v2c or v3
[06-Nov-2008 15:53:23] **NoxIn-> hum ok sorry
[06-Nov-2008 15:53:32] **garnica> no problem
[06-Nov-2008 15:53:51] **NoxIn-> thanks
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:33] **saritor> hello
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:36] **saritor> anyone around?
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:42] **garnica> what's up !
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:45] **saritor>
[06-Nov-2008 16:41:51] **saritor> when using device modeling via ssh
[06-Nov-2008 16:42:08] **saritor> is there a way to change the port you connect to?
[06-Nov-2008 16:42:13] **garnica> mmm
[06-Nov-2008 16:42:34] **saritor> or are you forced to run sshd on port 22 on the remote box
[06-Nov-2008 16:43:07] **garnica> let me check that....
[06-Nov-2008 16:44:08] **saritor> http://pastebin.com/m11c5778c
[06-Nov-2008 16:44:16] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[06-Nov-2008 16:44:19] **saritor> this is what happens when i run the modeling
[06-Nov-2008 16:46:44] **garnica> have you tested an ssh connection using a terminal ??
[06-Nov-2008 16:47:08] **saritor> using zenoss?
[06-Nov-2008 16:47:24] **garnica> ssh -l user 10.36.0.21 for example..... using bash...
[06-Nov-2008 16:47:33] **saritor> aye, im on it right now in fact
[06-Nov-2008 16:48:23] **garnica> according to the messages.... an ssh connection was refused ....
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[06-Nov-2008 16:51:28] **garnica> I would first try an ssh connection from a terminal.... ssh -l user 10.36.0.21:29 for example so 29 is the specific port you want to use
[06-Nov-2008 16:51:31] **saritor> it attempts to connect to use user you set in zCommandUsername correct?
[06-Nov-2008 16:51:52] **saritor> i have already established a connection that way
[06-Nov-2008 16:51:59] **garnica> ok
[06-Nov-2008 16:52:57] **garnica> now.... I would add a command in zenoss.... using Settings... command tab... I would add one
[06-Nov-2008 16:54:00] **garnica> like: ssh -l user ${device/manageIp:port}
[06-Nov-2008 16:54:13] **saritor> ok, I will give that a try
[06-Nov-2008 17:20:27] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[06-Nov-2008 17:25:50] **saritor> hmmm, well it looks like the connection is being made there
[06-Nov-2008 17:26:10] **saritor> though because there is no way to pass the password it fails to authenticate
[06-Nov-2008 17:29:51] **garnica> mmm
[06-Nov-2008 17:30:49] **saritor> however when i run the model, my log on the server running sshd doesn't even show a connection made
[06-Nov-2008 17:31:04] **garnica> what do you want to use ssh for ?
[06-Nov-2008 17:33:42] **saritor> instead of snmp
[06-Nov-2008 17:38:14] **garnica> ok
[06-Nov-2008 17:39:39] **garnica> this may be useful: http://forums.cacti.net/about24960.html
[06-Nov-2008 17:39:46] **adytum-bot> Title: [HOWTO] Using SSH tunnels to graph a remote Unix server (at forums.cacti.net)
[06-Nov-2008 17:42:33] **garnica> http://zarb.org/~gc/html/udp-in-ssh-tunneling.html
[06-Nov-2008 17:42:42] **adytum-bot> Title: Performing UDP tunneling through an SSH connection (at zarb.org)
[06-Nov-2008 17:43:47] **garnica> I have never done that.... though I belive it is possible of course
[06-Nov-2008 17:44:42] **saritor> hmm ill check it out
[06-Nov-2008 19:35:04] **hoangelos> I'm having problems after installing the RPMs for CentOS 5 and the latest copy of zenos accessing the admin. Not sure what the defeault user and password is, but doesn't sem to be user: admin and password:zenoss
[06-Nov-2008 19:40:36] **hoangelos> can anyone help me?
[06-Nov-2008 19:41:00] **hoangelos> I don't see anything in the docs about the default for the RPMs and even how to change it
[06-Nov-2008 19:49:09] **carpenike> hello, does anyone have a recommended zenpack to replace the default Memory graphs that displays more information?
[06-Nov-2008 21:12:58] **ernestovargas> hoangelos: admin / zenoss
[06-Nov-2008 22:13:24] **hoangelos> ernetovargas: I tried that doesn't seem to work for me
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:04] **hoangelos> ernestovargas: any way to reset it just in case. I just installed it via the zenoss yum, so it's that version
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:30] **ernestovargas> I got zenoss.rpms from www.zenoss.com
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:35] **ernestovargas> and the default password is that
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:41] **hoangelos> which one the RPM?
[06-Nov-2008 22:18:58] **hoangelos> because I initially got the RPM from there and it was the same
[06-Nov-2008 22:19:05] **hoangelos> as in not working
[06-Nov-2008 22:36:31] **ernestovargas> are you install the correct version
[06-Nov-2008 22:36:34] **ernestovargas> i386 o x86
[06-Nov-2008 22:36:48] **ernestovargas> I am on centos 5.0
[06-Nov-2008 22:43:40] **hoangelos> I'm 5.2
[06-Nov-2008 22:45:22] **hoangelos> ernestovargas: I have the correct version of each.
[06-Nov-2008 22:45:44] **hoangelos> I mean is there a way to reset the password or command line verify the admin password is correct?
[06-Nov-2008 22:54:19] **hoangelos> I assume this admin is a zope user right?
[06-Nov-2008 22:54:32] **hoangelos> I could use zpassword to reset the admin user if I knew where the file was stored
[06-Nov-2008 22:56:06] **hoangelos> well I looked at /opt/zenoss/etc/hubpasswd and confirmed that I'm typing what's there. Where's the log on this thing?
[06-Nov-2008 23:07:31] **hoangelos> can anyone help me? I really would like to use this and not cacti. but at this point....
[06-Nov-2008 23:08:32] **hoangelos> I have found the logs, but can't figure out which one would have that kind of info in there. the hubpasswd file certainly has the right info, but the error message says The entered password or
[06-Nov-2008 23:08:32] **hoangelos> username is incorrect.
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[07-Nov-2008 07:00:07] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[07-Nov-2008 10:13:32] **chantra> hi there, is anybody using snmpv3 with zenoss?
[07-Nov-2008 10:16:50] **Quadro> yep
[07-Nov-2008 10:17:35] **chantra> I have set zSnmpAuthType, zSnmpAuthPassword, zSnmpPrivType, zSnmpPrivKey, zSnmpSecurityName and zSnmpVer in /Devices/Server/Linux/myserver
[07-Nov-2008 10:17:44] **chantra> Quadro: cheers
[07-Nov-2008 10:17:55] **chantra> but still, it is querying only cplublic
[07-Nov-2008 10:19:36] **chantra> do u have to edit manually all the commands?
[07-Nov-2008 10:21:48] **chantra> woops, hold on, it seems it is gettng the datas finally
[07-Nov-2008 10:22:00] **Quadro> i did not, in fact, i didn't do anything except filling in the corresponding zProperties
[07-Nov-2008 10:22:44] **Quadro> after that, it connected to snmpd without any problems
[07-Nov-2008 10:23:20] **chantra> yeah, it looks like it keeps on using snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp} system
[07-Nov-2008 10:23:32] **chantra> but under the hood uses -v3 for proper stats
[07-Nov-2008 10:25:18] **Quadro> yep
[07-Nov-2008 10:27:48] **chantra> cool, sorry for the bother
[07-Nov-2008 11:00:18] **chantra> guys, have a good day
[07-Nov-2008 11:00:19] **chantra> c u
[07-Nov-2008 12:38:21] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Nov-2008 12:56:15] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Nov-2008 13:05:43] **raddy> Is it possible to monitor IP Services in a remote device without opening port in that remote device?
[07-Nov-2008 13:31:06] **hoangelos> I need help desperately here. I have installed zenoss. I can't login. I'm using the username/password that's the default and it's not working. I have tried reinstalling the RPMs and it's not working. Please someone help me
[07-Nov-2008 13:31:56] **raddy> hoangelos : what error?
[07-Nov-2008 13:32:16] **hoangelos> raddy: The entered password or username is incorrect
[07-Nov-2008 13:32:48] **hoangelos> raddy: I looked at /opt/zenoss/etc/hubpasswd and confirmed that the username and password is what it should be. of course if I change that value it doesn't do anything
[07-Nov-2008 13:41:54] **raddy> hoangelos : i think you are experiencing database connection issue
[07-Nov-2008 13:45:48] **hoangelos> raddy: I'm using MySQL 5.0.45 and I have a root DB of empty string, which is what the docs said
[07-Nov-2008 13:46:35] **hoangelos> I can connect to localhost fine. there was a wierd error on connecting to host.com: "ERROR 1129 (00000): Host 'host.com' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts'
[07-Nov-2008 13:46:35] **hoangelos> "
[07-Nov-2008 13:46:54] **hoangelos> I did the instructinos and could connect to host.com, but still can't login
[07-Nov-2008 13:47:02] **raddy> Ohhh
[07-Nov-2008 13:47:29] **hoangelos> I'm restarting the app hoping that works
[07-Nov-2008 13:48:00] **raddy> hoangelos : one more thing, when ZenOSS initiated firstly, did it able to access your mysql database ?
[07-Nov-2008 13:48:31] **hoangelos> I thought it was, but can't remember now. if I see the tables it should be good right
[07-Nov-2008 13:49:17] **hoangelos> I see an events DB with 6 tables
[07-Nov-2008 13:52:46] **hoangelos> isn't there a log I can search for what errors are actually occurring that could help see if it is a DB issue
[07-Nov-2008 13:53:04] **hoangelos> or a command line way to test that the default username and password really do work
[07-Nov-2008 13:55:58] **hoangelos> raddy: http://pastebin.com/d25d0d282 this is the /opt/zenoss/log/event.log since my last restart
[07-Nov-2008 13:56:21] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 14:07:29] **hoangelos> raddy: think I might have something. Found the events log and raised the loglevel in the zope.conf for it. I found these logs: http://pastebin.com/d473eedce
[07-Nov-2008 14:07:37] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 14:07:43] **hoangelos> looks to me like it's trying to do transactions, but the default is MyISAM
[07-Nov-2008 14:08:26] **hoangelos> well actualy the tables are InnoDB. hmmm
[07-Nov-2008 14:08:35] **hoangelos> for some reason it's aborting the transaction though
[07-Nov-2008 15:06:38] **hoangelos> nice
[07-Nov-2008 15:42:33] **raddy> Anybody there?
[07-Nov-2008 15:59:47] **malbon> lo all
[07-Nov-2008 15:59:57] **mrayzenoss> right on time
[07-Nov-2008 16:01:02] **malbon>
[07-Nov-2008 16:01:02] **mrayzenoss> mrchippy and I are here to answer your questions
[07-Nov-2008 16:01:35] **mrayzenoss> especially mrchippy
[07-Nov-2008 16:02:25] **AdmGre> I only skimmed the e-mail, is there a primary topic today?
[07-Nov-2008 16:02:48] **mrayzenoss> not really, we can talk about anything
[07-Nov-2008 16:02:54] **mrayzenoss> like current events
[07-Nov-2008 16:03:07] **rfort> how about rancid integration in enterprise 2.2?
[07-Nov-2008 16:03:49] **malbon> isn't rancid already integrated with enterprise?
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:07] **rfort> well, it is in there
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:16] **malbon> talking of which how can you change a new event into an existing event log update?
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:17] **rfort> maybe a few quick questions, we were using 2.1 previously, but doing rancid manually
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:25] **mrayzenoss> yeah, Rancid integration is part of Enterprise, if you have questions on that you should probably contact Client Services
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:26] **hoangelos> what about not being able to login. I'm a little frutrated with how little info I can get wtih this. I have some log events that seem to be DB related: http://pastebin.com/d473eedce
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:35] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 16:04:40] **rfort> yeah we have a scheduled meeting with one of our dev's and sales @ zenoss
[07-Nov-2008 16:05:30] **rfort> 'cept, I think he is on vacation until Monday
[07-Nov-2008 16:07:29] **mrchippy> sorry for the crickets, folks, i got distracted:)
[07-Nov-2008 16:08:11] **That1guy15> I keep getting the following error when trying to map an event to an eventclass does anyone know why?
[07-Nov-2008 16:08:13] **That1guy15> 1 event is not class /Unknown.
[07-Nov-2008 16:08:33] **malbon> mrchippy: excuses, excuses
[07-Nov-2008 16:09:56] **__ian__> That1guy15: Event class mappings are applicable only to the /Unknown class.
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:12] **That1guy15> ah. is there a way to change the action or severity for this event?
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:13] **rfort> rancidgroup, and rancidtype. do you have any suggestions what that might be regarding? I'm new to rancid and a bit confused
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:28] **That1guy15> I dont want to change the whole class just the single event
[07-Nov-2008 16:11:38] **mrchippy> malbon: you mean alter an existing event based on a new event?
[07-Nov-2008 16:12:31] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: What are you not able to login to?
[07-Nov-2008 16:13:00] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: the admin. I use the default pass and then I get the lines you see from the events.log file
[07-Nov-2008 16:13:20] **mrayzenoss> you're trying to log into the DB?
[07-Nov-2008 16:13:47] **That1guy15> I could care less about the event but its severity is error. I would like to change it to info or drop it all together
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:07] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: login is "admin" password "zenoss". Does that not work?
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:17] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: is this a new or existing install?
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:18] **hoangelos> it did not work for me no
[07-Nov-2008 16:14:40] **hoangelos> myrayzenoss: a new install using first the RPMs from zenoss and then isntalled the RPMs via the yum
[07-Nov-2008 16:15:13] **zenTouris1> Anyone seen this error ( WBEM_E_INVALID_CLASS ) when enabling zenoss.wmi.SoftwareMap?
[07-Nov-2008 16:16:24] **cluther> That1guy15: You'd need to use an event class transform instead of a mapping.
[07-Nov-2008 16:16:39] **cluther> That1guy15: Go to the event class that this event is being put in and choose More -> Transform from the menu.
[07-Nov-2008 16:16:48] **cluther> That1guy15: Stick something like the following in the transform..
[07-Nov-2008 16:17:22] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: is mysql running? I assume you followed the install guide instructions? Maybe verify each step?
[07-Nov-2008 16:17:47] **cluther> That1guy15: if "triggerText" in evt.summary: evt._action = "drop"
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:02] **cluther> That1guy15: Now any events going into this event class that have "triggerText" in their summary will be dropped.
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:08] **hoangelos> I used the install PDF to install it and then later tried http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-with-zenoss-stack-rpm/?searchterm=RPM too
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Install with zenoss-stack RPM - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Nov-2008 16:18:51] **That1guy15> I assume Text is were i would put the event right/
[07-Nov-2008 16:19:01] **mrayzenoss> what version did you install? what's the name of the RPM?
[07-Nov-2008 16:19:29] **cluther> That1guy15: triggerText
[07-Nov-2008 16:19:31] **hoangelos> using CentOS 5.2 and the RPM that's installed is zenoss-2.2.4-75.el5
[07-Nov-2008 16:20:45] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Figured it out. The zenoss-stack RPM was removed, but somehow you found the install instructions for it
[07-Nov-2008 16:20:54] **That1guy15> gotcha
[07-Nov-2008 16:20:55] **mrayzenoss> You have the native RPM (which is good)
[07-Nov-2008 16:21:18] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Get this PDF http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-with-the-zenoss-installer.pdf
[07-Nov-2008 16:21:30] **hoangelos> that's what I used at first
[07-Nov-2008 16:21:53] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: follow the Chapter 4 instructions
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:05] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: the ones you referred to were to the wrong ones for your RPM
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:10] **hoangelos> I'm running CentOS 5 so wouldn't it be chapter 5?
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:19] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: yes, sorry
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:19] **That1guy15> cluther: is there a limit on characters?
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:31] **hoangelos> I first did this and then went to the one I sent you after the first one didn't work either
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:51] **hoangelos> I can uninstall and try to follow it another time, but I don't see how it will happen differently
[07-Nov-2008 16:22:58] **cluther> That1guy15: No.
[07-Nov-2008 16:23:12] **That1guy15> Cool thanks for the info.
[07-Nov-2008 16:23:15] **That1guy15> Everyone have a good weekend
[07-Nov-2008 16:23:47] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: since this is a new install, let's try running the uninstall instructions (chap 11) and then starting over
[07-Nov-2008 16:24:01] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: restart with a clean slate
[07-Nov-2008 16:24:24] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: k and don't use the yum repo I assume
[07-Nov-2008 16:25:11] **mrayzenoss> correct, we'll follow the Chap 5 instructions verbatim and see if there are any issues
[07-Nov-2008 16:25:24] **cjackel> Question: When setting smtp properties, it appears to autocomplete 'admin' if you try to set it to blank for authentication. What config file has the true current state?
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:13] **cjackel> My mail server saw the attempts to connect, but zenoss kept resetting the connection.
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:22] **malbon> mrchippy: an existing event, sorry I got meetingified
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:42] **cluther> cjackel: This is your browser auto-completing the field.
[07-Nov-2008 16:26:46] **mrchippy> malbon: no probs. i know the feeling
[07-Nov-2008 16:27:13] **cjackel> cluther: after hitting save?
[07-Nov-2008 16:27:37] **cjackel> cluther: I delete the field, hit save, it comes back with admin
[07-Nov-2008 16:27:58] **cluther> cjackel: Right.. go into your browser's autocomplete section and clear out the entry for your Zenoss URL.
[07-Nov-2008 16:29:28] **cjackel> cluther: Ah. That makes some sense. Is there a config file with the current properties?
[07-Nov-2008 16:29:45] **cluther> cjackel: No.. it is stored in the Zope database.
[07-Nov-2008 16:29:51] **cjackel> okay
[07-Nov-2008 16:30:13] **cluther> cjackel: However, you can forcefully set it outside the browser..
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:01] **cluther> cjackel: Run "zendmd" as the zenoss user and then the following commands..
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:04] **rfort> cluther: question when you got a second, I'm curious about zenoss+rancid integration. if you update say, a username or password, does it update the rancid conf? or am I not understanding it correctly ?
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:08] **malbon> cluther & mrchippy: is there any move to optimize the zeodb into another more efficient or multiaccess form? our zeodb really slows down from time to time.
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:11] **cluther> cjackel: dmd.smtpUser = ''
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:15] **cluther> cjackel: dmd.smtpPass = ''
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:18] **cluther> cjackel: commit()
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:51] **cgibbons> zenTouris1: yeah I can help you with that WBEM error.
[07-Nov-2008 16:31:59] **cluther> rfort: We don't build your .cloginrc, only your routers.db
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:06] **cluther> rfort: So the answer would be no.
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:10] **cjackel> cluther: Thanks. I may have had other mail issues, but I could be sure exactly what it was using for auth.
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:10] **mrchippy> malbon: not that i know of at this time. when are you seeing these slowdowns?
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:26] **cjackel> cluther: *couldn't
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:32] **cgibbons> short answer is it means your server (probably a windows 2003 standard edition?) doesn't have the WMI Installer extensions installed so Zenoss can't gather installed software information via WMI.
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:43] **malbon> mrchippy: it's sporadic, especially when we restart daemons, or during modelling
[07-Nov-2008 16:32:48] **cgibbons> if you want that data, you'll need to install that (easy), or you can disable the SoftwareMap collector plugin for the device to get it to stop trying.
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:22] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: one problem I see so far si that the Zenos core zenpacks on the website doesn't have a version that matches the version I ahve
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:25] **zenTouris1> cgibbons: i disabled it for now, but it would be nice to get that data. is it an install from MS's site?
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:36] **mrchippy> malbon: are you pretty sure it's the zeodb access that's the culprit?
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:36] **hoangelos> myrayzenoss: I have 2.2.4 and they only seem to have 2.2.3
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:38] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: don't worry about ZenPacks just yet
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:43] **hoangelos> k
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:48] **hoangelos> so skip those install instructions
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:53] **mrayzenoss> yeah
[07-Nov-2008 16:33:59] **malbon> mrchippy: either that or zenhub, but they both have high cpu
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:14] **cgibbons> from control panel. you'll need your install media / service pack media handy. go to control panel, add / remove programs, then the Windows Components on the left side. then go down until you see WMI Installer Provider and click that.
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:38] **cgibbons> for some reason win2003 standard doesn't install that by default, but XP and windows 2003 enterprise does
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:43] **rfort> cluther: ah ok, I understand now what it does/doesn't do. thanks
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:50] **zenTouris1> sounds easy enough. Thanks for the tip cgibbons
[07-Nov-2008 16:34:54] **malbon> mrchippy: I initially thought it was hrSWInstalled updating or something like that, but that is only a hunch
[07-Nov-2008 16:35:57] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: same error "The entered password or username is incorrect"
[07-Nov-2008 16:37:53] **mrayzenoss> Is your mysql instance running?
[07-Nov-2008 16:38:10] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: I followed the instructions for ch. 5 verbatim except for skipping the steps to install the zenpacks
[07-Nov-2008 16:38:39] **mrchippy> malbon: well, i guess the quick answer is no we're not looking at that at the moment. however, if we could reproduce a consistent issue... of course, the hard problems are never consistently reproduceable ;(
[07-Nov-2008 16:39:34] **malbon> mrchippy: yes indeed, I've not got a magic formula for reproducing it yet.
[07-Nov-2008 16:39:57] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: When you started zenoss, did all the services start up correctly?
[07-Nov-2008 16:40:29] **hoangelos> I'll paste in the first startup
[07-Nov-2008 16:48:13] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: http://pastebin.com/d146d2067
[07-Nov-2008 16:48:20] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Nov-2008 16:51:28] **malbon> when creating a new hardware device (in this case an HP Fan) in the hardware page, I modify the TemperatureSensor model type and call it HPTemperatureSensor, how do I get my class to recognise an RRD Template called HPTemperatureSensor, or is it a static 1-to-1 mapping?
[07-Nov-2008 16:52:58] **dean> Hi all.
[07-Nov-2008 16:53:11] **garnica> you can map this HPTemperatureSensor to a complete class
[07-Nov-2008 16:54:02] **garnica> Navigate to the class you want to apply your template
[07-Nov-2008 16:54:28] **garnica> in the templates tab select "Bind Templates...."
[07-Nov-2008 16:54:51] **malbon> garnica: yes, actually I want it to happen automatically as part of the modeling process.
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:05] **garnica> then... when you add some device, in the "Device Class Path" select the class to wich you binded your HPTemperatureSensor template
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:35] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Nothing looks weird in that. This is a stumper
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:44] **mrchippy> malbon: the templates in the z property zDeviceTemplates will be automatically bound
[07-Nov-2008 16:56:53] **hoangelos> yeah to me too
[07-Nov-2008 16:57:33] **malbon> mrchippy: yeah, I've probably not explained it properly.
[07-Nov-2008 16:57:40] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: the only thing I see is when I bump up the logging to the events log to debug I see what seem to be transaction problems
[07-Nov-2008 16:57:56] **malbon> I'll re-submit it next time around if I've not worked it out by then.
[07-Nov-2008 16:58:32] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: Perhaps post this on the forums with your links and mention the steps you followed... maybe another CentOS user might have an idea
[07-Nov-2008 17:01:27] **cluther> malbon: regarding the template binding. You're right in assuming that component templates get bound based on the class name.
[07-Nov-2008 17:02:09] **cluther> malbon: To be precise, the DeviceComponent base class has a method called getRRDTemplateByName that actually performs the binding. Your object can override that method if you wish to use a different template name for your class.
[07-Nov-2008 17:02:34] **cluther> malbon: Assuming your class is derived from DeviceComponent.. which it absolutely should be.
[07-Nov-2008 17:04:23] **malbon> cluther: cool, that's what I thought.
[07-Nov-2008 17:04:44] **cluther> malbon: Oops.. bad information. It is the getRRDTemplateName method of the RRDView base class.
[07-Nov-2008 17:04:48] **malbon> cluther: I inherited TemperatureSensor in my class but it doesn't seem to work according to plan.
[07-Nov-2008 17:05:42] **cluther> malbon: You're able to model the sensors properly, but zenperfsnmp isn't making the OID requests in your template?
[07-Nov-2008 17:06:28] **malbon> cluther: nope, I model fine, but the host picks the TemperatureSensor Template rather than HPTemperatureSensor
[07-Nov-2008 17:07:01] **cluther> malbon: Do you have meta_type defined as a property of the HPTemperatureSensor class?
[07-Nov-2008 17:07:13] **malbon> cluther: it's probably something very simple that I am not doing right
[07-Nov-2008 17:07:33] **cluther> malbon: Set meta_type = "HPTemperatureSensor" in your HPTemperatureSensor class and it'll likely work
[07-Nov-2008 17:08:21] **malbon> cluther: http://www.pastebin.ca/1247982
[07-Nov-2008 17:08:31] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1247982 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[07-Nov-2008 17:08:48] **malbon> cluther: nope, I didn't realise about meta_type, but that'd certainly make sense.
[07-Nov-2008 17:09:34] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: stupid question about I didn'ti configure snmp this is a virgin system. That wouldn't stop things would it?
[07-Nov-2008 17:09:41] **mrayzenoss> no
[07-Nov-2008 17:09:48] **hoangelos> didn't think so
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:26] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: are you using "admin" or "Admin"?
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:35] **hoangelos> all lowercase
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:39] **mrayzenoss> dang
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:49] **mrayzenoss> "admin" and "zenoss"
[07-Nov-2008 17:10:50] **hoangelos> for both
[07-Nov-2008 17:12:06] **hoangelos> I think I found something
[07-Nov-2008 17:12:31] **hoangelos> in zenhub there's a CRITICAL notic that it can't find host and ignorning netowrk topology
[07-Nov-2008 17:12:39] **hoangelos> and then a warning that removing listener
[07-Nov-2008 17:13:56] **mrayzenoss> hmmm... I wonder if it's some combination of localhost/hostname weirdness
[07-Nov-2008 17:14:05] **mrayzenoss> what URL are you using?
[07-Nov-2008 17:15:45] **hoangelos> noc.numbersusa.com, which is the name of the machine
[07-Nov-2008 17:16:10] **mrayzenoss> and /etc/hosts has that entry?
[07-Nov-2008 17:16:27] **hoangelos> yeah it's associated with an internal IP, but it's also in the DNS
[07-Nov-2008 17:16:51] **hoangelos> I shoudl say a non-loopback IP it's associated with
[07-Nov-2008 17:20:34] **hoangelos> actually I do see collection of stats seem to be taking place by looking at the log
[07-Nov-2008 17:21:02] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: I'm a bit stumped, put that log message in a post on the forums and I'll dig around a bit on it
[07-Nov-2008 17:22:12] **mrayzenoss> I've got to get going in a minute, I just want to thank everyone for showing up. We'll have another session in 2 weeks (Nov. 20). We expect 2.3 to be out before then.
[07-Nov-2008 17:23:16] **malbon> Thanks Zenoss folks.
[07-Nov-2008 17:32:23] **Scamd> hi all did I miss the QnA?
[07-Nov-2008 17:32:51] **cluther> Scamd: You missed the main event, but this place is always a Q&A.
[07-Nov-2008 17:32:55] **rhett___> Scamd: it looks like it
[07-Nov-2008 17:33:05] **rhett___> mrayzenoss: I've got to get going in a minute, I just want to thank everyone for showing up. We'll have another session in 2 weeks (Nov. 20). We expect 2.3 to be out before then.
[07-Nov-2008 18:27:18] **hoangelos> well I finially found out what was happening in my login problem to the admin after 1.5 days. It fails on firefox for mac, but works on opera and safari
[07-Nov-2008 18:40:37] **rhett___> what version of firefox
[07-Nov-2008 18:44:54] **rhett___> i am using 3.1b1 and havnt seen any issues on 10.5.4
[07-Nov-2008 18:57:39] **__pok> is the logs for this channel available somewhere?
[07-Nov-2008 19:01:20] **cluther> http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/irc/archives/
[07-Nov-2008 19:01:34] **adytum-bot> Title: Archives - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
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[07-Nov-2008 19:19:32] **hoangelos> rhett__: sorry was afk 3.0.3
[07-Nov-2008 19:19:48] **hoangelos> on 10.5.5
[07-Nov-2008 19:21:56] **cluther> hoangelos: That's the same exact setup I used without problem.
[07-Nov-2008 19:22:53] **hoangelos> unless zope objects cache are some how foobared. I tried clearning the cache I'll try restarting the browser, but it shoudln't be a diff
[07-Nov-2008 19:23:28] **rhett___> ah. i was using 3.0.3 too and didnt witness anything here. but i am also lazy and havnt upgrade yet
[07-Nov-2008 19:23:34] **rhett___> to 10.5.5 that is
[07-Nov-2008 19:32:37] **zenChild> Anybody ever had an issue not getting the google maps mash-up working properly? I have the API key installed and nothing is show up. Strangely, I have a separate instance of Zenoss Core where it is working fine. Is there a log somewhere that would help me troubleshoot this?
[07-Nov-2008 19:36:37] **cluther> zenChild: If nothing shows up I think it means your key is good. You'd get a pop-up stating the key was bad if this was the case.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:03] **cluther> zenChild: There's no log to look at, but this kind of problem is usually caused either by bad address information configured for one or more of your locations, or a bad geocache.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:11] **__ian__> zenChild: You've got top-level Locations with addresses?
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:14] **cluther> zenChild: You can clear the geocache by going to Locations and clearing it from the menu.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:18] **__ian__> Never mind, listen to cluther.
[07-Nov-2008 19:37:26] **cluther> No! Listen to __ian__
[07-Nov-2008 19:38:05] **zenChild> i tried clearing the geocache and that didn't seem to help... let me double check my addresses...
[07-Nov-2008 19:38:25] **cluther> zenChild: Be especially careful of apostrophes and unicode characters.
[07-Nov-2008 19:42:01] **zenChild> Still nothing. I simplified my address so I have /Locations and 2 sub-locations each with the address set to City, St
[07-Nov-2008 19:42:47] **__ian__> And what is the error you are getting?
[07-Nov-2008 19:42:57] **__ian__> Or symptom of failure, whatever. A grey box?
[07-Nov-2008 19:43:07] **__ian__> or a javascript error? or no nodes being drawn?
[07-Nov-2008 19:43:31] **zenChild> Grey box
[07-Nov-2008 19:43:41] **zenChild> let me check the javascript console...
[07-Nov-2008 19:47:10] **zenChild> I'm getting some Javascript errors "ZenGeoMap is not a constructor" and "GGeocodeCache is not defined"
[07-Nov-2008 19:49:48] **__ian__> Cool. That's a good one.
[07-Nov-2008 19:50:14] **__ian__> That means that you're actually just having a generic javascript error that's blocking later stuff. What's the first javascript error?
[07-Nov-2008 19:51:19] **zenChild> let me clear the console and refresh
[07-Nov-2008 19:51:27] **__ian__> clear your browser cache while you're at it
[07-Nov-2008 19:51:37] **zenChild> k
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:07] **zenChild> This is the first error:
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:08] **zenChild> Warning: Expected declaration but found '*'. Skipped to next declaration.
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:08] **zenChild> Source File: http://10.2.17.208:8080/zport/dmd/yui/grids/grids-min.css
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:08] **zenChild> Line: 7
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:21] **zenChild> There is a stream of those
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:35] **__ian__> Those can be ignored, just CSS stuff.
[07-Nov-2008 19:53:51] **zenChild> woops sorry. i wasn't filtering
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> The first javascript error is:
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> Error: GGeocodeCache is not defined
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> Source File: http://10.2.17.208:8080/zport/dmd/javascript/geomap-2.1.js
[07-Nov-2008 19:55:49] **zenChild> Line: 9
[07-Nov-2008 19:58:56] **__ian__> Can you try the Map tab under /Locations?
[07-Nov-2008 19:59:12] **__ian__> Wait, let me restate. Are you seeing this on the dashboard?
[07-Nov-2008 20:03:26] **zenChild> yes. I'm seeing it on the dashboard. nothing shows up under the map tab either.
[07-Nov-2008 20:10:13] **__ian__> What version of Zenoss are you using?
[07-Nov-2008 20:10:30] **zenChild> 2.2.4 Enterprise. Just installed it yesterday.
[07-Nov-2008 20:11:16] **zenChild> i just did a diff of the geomap.js against the one in Core that is working and the files are identical.
[07-Nov-2008 20:11:39] **__ian__> Got it. Fresh install or upgrade? And you've definitely cleared your cache?
[07-Nov-2008 20:11:59] **zenChild> fresh install and i've cleared it a couple times.
[07-Nov-2008 20:12:30] **__ian__> Oh man, Enterprise. Are you using a regular Google API key?
[07-Nov-2008 20:12:37] **zenChild> yup
[07-Nov-2008 20:12:49] **__ian__> That's it.
[07-Nov-2008 20:13:36] **zenChild> k. i'll open a ticket to get the enterprise key. they mentioned it prior to me installing, but I never received anything.
[07-Nov-2008 20:13:38] **__ian__> Enterprise uses a different map key system.
[07-Nov-2008 20:13:51] **zenChild> thanx for your help.
[07-Nov-2008 20:14:03] **__ian__> Sure thing.
[07-Nov-2008 20:18:12] **__pok> why does my zenoss db just keep on growing
[07-Nov-2008 20:18:33] **__pok> I've set the keep events for... setting to 30 days
[07-Nov-2008 20:18:59] **__pok> but I'm not sure if that pruning works :-/
[07-Nov-2008 20:19:15] **__pok> it's like...18 Gb now
[07-Nov-2008 20:20:34] **cluther> __pok: It uses InnoDB tables, which don't reclaim space when data is deleted.
[07-Nov-2008 20:20:58] **__pok> no, I know
[07-Nov-2008 20:23:15] **__pok> but that means it's reusing the already allocated space for new rows
[07-Nov-2008 20:23:33] **cluther> __pok: That's the idea.
[07-Nov-2008 20:23:34] **__pok> but since my data has kept on growing for more than three months ..
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:06] **cluther> __pok: You can check to see if the pruning is working by looking for the oldest entry in the history table.
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:16] **__pok> ah, yeah
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:31] **__pok> when you're viewing events... you're right
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:32] **cluther> __pok: select lastTime from history order by lastTime asc limit 1;
[07-Nov-2008 20:24:50] **cluther> zenChild: Still around?
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:14] **__pok> that too - is there any shortcut to get to the mysql prompt?
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:24] **cluther> __pok: mysql -uzenoss -pzenoss events
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:31] **cluther> __pok: If you haven't changed any default passwords
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:43] **__pok> I haven't
[07-Nov-2008 20:25:57] **__pok> hope it's listening on local socket only
)[07-Nov-2008 20:26:24] **cluther> __pok: Likely it is listening on *, but fortunately the zenoss password only works when connecting from the localhost.
[07-Nov-2008 20:27:08] **__pok> oh, the login is host based per default? goodie.
[07-Nov-2008 20:35:32] **hoangelos> is zenjmx important?
[07-Nov-2008 20:35:44] **cluther> Only if you want to monitor J2EE servers.
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[08-Nov-2008 04:47:19] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[08-Nov-2008 04:47:41] **raddy> Is ZenOSS dev meeting still going on?
[08-Nov-2008 04:54:20] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[08-Nov-2008 12:52:39] **pegal_linux> Anybody out there?
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[08-Nov-2008 12:55:06] **raddy> Anybody there??
[08-Nov-2008 14:21:35] **evil-lw> so how do I reduce or change when it models hosts by default? I would kind of like to have it only run around 2-3 in the afternoon each day...
[08-Nov-2008 14:31:15] **raddy> evil-lw : I think in your device's ZProperties you can change the modeling interval
[08-Nov-2008 14:42:37] **raddy> Anybody out there???
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[09-Nov-2008 21:44:51] **tnnc> i have install the deb package and woder how do i get zenoss to bring up the gui
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[10-Nov-2008 01:15:55] **snowgod> Hey all - been going through the initial setup process for ZenOSS and reading the available documentation. Had a question and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction
[10-Nov-2008 01:16:24] **snowgod> How do I configure ZenOSS so that it is resilient to collector failure?
[10-Nov-2008 01:45:05] **shyru> hi all!
[10-Nov-2008 01:45:20] **shyru> any body live?
[10-Nov-2008 01:57:31] **justizin> snowgod: there is a tutorial in the wiki on HA zenoss setup. i think it can be done simpler with mysql replication, but that would probably require some changes to zenoss so that tasks can be offloaded to secondary collectors when primary are not running or somesuch.
[10-Nov-2008 01:58:29] **snowgod> well, the collectors themselves don't need to run mysql, correct? I'm under the impression they only store the perf data locally
[10-Nov-2008 01:59:21] **snowgod> events are stored in mysql, but that is part of the "master" zenoss install (in my understanding)
[10-Nov-2008 02:04:42] **justizin> well, it's all one zenoss install, the various collectors and other daemons use the same code. what you think of as the 'master' is really just the web server and object database.
[10-Nov-2008 02:05:18] **justizin> but yah i hadn't thought about the RRD files, that is a bit of a pickle. i'm most concerned with redundancy in reliability testing..
[10-Nov-2008 02:06:10] **snowgod> I'm most concerned about single server failure not impacting monitoring visibility in a distributed collection configuration
[10-Nov-2008 02:06:58] **snowgod> If a resource is assigned to "collectorA" and collectorA suffers catastrophic failure - I don't want collectorA's resources to go un-monitored
[10-Nov-2008 02:11:42] **snowgod> ah well, I posted to the users mailing list - we'll see if anyone has info or ideas
[10-Nov-2008 11:48:09] **uwe> hello, i want to monitor proxy service (squid) on port 3128 ... should i treat it as http monitoring on port 3128 ??
[10-Nov-2008 13:15:56] **uwe> no idea ?
[10-Nov-2008 13:58:36] **uwe> anybody ?
[10-Nov-2008 15:58:49] **shyru> hi all!
[10-Nov-2008 16:35:05] **texasthunder> how do i get an alert to go off when snmp see high cpu load?
[10-Nov-2008 16:36:35] **shyru> texasthunder, i can't help you, sorry :S
[10-Nov-2008 16:36:50] **nemo2> put a threshold on the graph
[10-Nov-2008 16:36:58] **texasthunder> thanks shyru
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:08] **texasthunder> nemo2, in the new alert?
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:15] **texasthunder> or in the graph?
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:25] **nemo2> the threshold ( when achieved ) creates the alert
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:28] **nemo2> have a read about em
[10-Nov-2008 16:37:44] **texasthunder> interesting, i will read more about thresholds
[10-Nov-2008 16:39:39] **shyru> guys! i want to monitor a mysql scripts backup, but i don't where start. Any idea?
[10-Nov-2008 16:40:30] **nemo2> reading the docs .,..
[10-Nov-2008 16:40:40] **nemo2>
most things are explained there[10-Nov-2008 16:41:06] **shyru> well, my mysql backup run everday with /etc/cron.daily, so i want to monitor if it had an error... or if it run or not
[10-Nov-2008 16:42:14] **shyru> nemo2, i read it! i think is about /Process, but only explain a bit about it.
[10-Nov-2008 16:44:43] **shyru> :S
[10-Nov-2008 18:45:04] **fotios> i am trying out zenoss but cant seem to get it to scan my network
[10-Nov-2008 18:45:15] **fotios> how can i specify a subnet for it to scan?
[10-Nov-2008 18:46:07] **fotios> i thought it should be automatically populated
[10-Nov-2008 18:46:15] **fotios> maybe theres an issue because its the vmware appliance
[10-Nov-2008 19:31:11] **texasthunder> i got it to work, first create a parent network
[10-Nov-2008 19:31:21] **texasthunder> and then in the sub category, create the subnet
[10-Nov-2008 19:31:29] **texasthunder> and then run the auto-discovery there
[10-Nov-2008 22:27:36] **shyru> hi all!, i want to monitor a mysql-backup scripts but i don't any idea, how to do!!! anybody help me?
[10-Nov-2008 22:28:19] **shyru> this scripts run with /ect/cron.daily
[10-Nov-2008 22:43:32] **garnica> shyru: basically you want to monitor if the backup script has been excecuted successfuly or not ??
[10-Nov-2008 22:44:06] **shyru> garnica, yes!
[10-Nov-2008 22:44:17] **shyru> that's right!!
[10-Nov-2008 22:44:50] **garnica> shyru: do you have a bash command so you can have this status ??
[10-Nov-2008 22:45:34] **shyru> hummm i think so.
[10-Nov-2008 22:46:32] **shyru> garnica, my scripts runs a mysqldump and transfer this info to linux box over ssh (rsync w/ssh)
[10-Nov-2008 22:47:23] **garnica> are you currently monitoring the device in wich you want to check your mysql script ??
[10-Nov-2008 22:47:46] **shyru> yeah
[10-Nov-2008 22:48:27] **garnica> if so... I'd create a command... ( wich is the bash command ) in zenoss so I could monitor the result
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:04] **garnica> go to "Settings "and select the "Commands" tab
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:04] **shyru> Thanks!
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:38] **garnica> sure !
[10-Nov-2008 22:49:59] **shyru> wait!
[10-Nov-2008 22:50:28] **garnica> what's up ?
[10-Nov-2008 22:51:01] **shyru> ok
[10-Nov-2008 22:51:43] **shyru> i did it! Settings --> Commands
[10-Nov-2008 22:51:52] **shyru> garnica,
[10-Nov-2008 22:52:48] **garnica> have you already created a new command ?
[10-Nov-2008 22:53:22] **shyru> yes
[10-Nov-2008 22:53:48] **garnica> have you tested this new command on the target device ?
[10-Nov-2008 22:54:11] **shyru> noup! im going to
[10-Nov-2008 22:55:03] **garnica> you know... you select the target device and then "Run commands" to select your new command....
[10-Nov-2008 22:58:13] **shyru> ok i did it
[10-Nov-2008 23:00:12] **garnica> hold on.... phone.....
[10-Nov-2008 23:00:22] **shyru> ok
[10-Nov-2008 23:04:25] **shyru>
[10-Nov-2008 23:04:58] **garnica> sorry... I'm back
[10-Nov-2008 23:05:02] **shyru>
[10-Nov-2008 23:05:23] **shyru> no problem thanks for you patience and for you help
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:29] **garnica> could you paste the output of this command ??
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:51] **shyru> garnica, i did ps aux|grep mysqldump
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:51] **shyru>
[10-Nov-2008 23:06:53] **nonsenso> what about monitoring the output of the cron job with zenemail?
[10-Nov-2008 23:08:43] **garnica> ok... let me check that out... hold on...
[10-Nov-2008 23:09:51] **shyru> zenoss 4583 0.0 0.0 4720 988 ? S 16:57 0:00 /bin/sh -c ps aux|grep mysqldump
[10-Nov-2008 23:09:58] **shyru> garnica: zenoss 4583 0.0 0.0 4720 988 ? S 16:57 0:00 /bin/sh -c ps aux|grep mysqldump
[10-Nov-2008 23:11:47] **garnica> ok... how can you know it was successfuly excecuted from these lines ?
[10-Nov-2008 23:14:06] **shyru> garnica, i don't know... :S but what do you think about if after to begins my scripts, touch and x file and with zenoss monitoring if there is it between any hours?? if there isn't send me and messages?
[10-Nov-2008 23:17:29] **shyru> garnica, is bad idea?
[10-Nov-2008 23:18:04] **garnica> mmm ... sounds possible... this is what I would do:.... I would look for creating a bash command whose result is a sumple digit 1 (when succesfuly excecuted) 0 ( not successful)
[10-Nov-2008 23:18:28] **shyru> ok...
[10-Nov-2008 23:18:39] **garnica> the I would add a template with this command... to get a performance graph on this process
[10-Nov-2008 23:19:17] * shyru is taking note
[10-Nov-2008 23:19:45] **garnica> try them both... to see wich one results easier
[10-Nov-2008 23:20:06] **shyru> oky you have reason.
[10-Nov-2008 23:20:27] **garnica> consider zenemail... like nonseno wrote....also
[10-Nov-2008 23:21:51] **shyru> ahh ok thanks nonsenso ...
[10-Nov-2008 23:22:59] **nonsenso> (:
[10-Nov-2008 23:23:05] **nonsenso> let me know how that works out for you.
[10-Nov-2008 23:23:16] **shyru> I'm sorry, English is not my native language thanks a lot ! guys!
[10-Nov-2008 23:23:53] **shyru> whatever i'm taking note
[10-Nov-2008 23:27:15] **shyru> nonsenso, are you there?
[10-Nov-2008 23:28:23] **shyru> you wrote me: what about monitoring the output of the cron job with zenemail?.... that's mean if i use zenemail to register o monitor my crons scripts? is correct?
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[11-Nov-2008 17:39:29] **dirkx__> Quick question - HttpMonitor - loading plugin into 2.2. is fine - can be selected - but once toed to a variable gives an __getitems()__ key not found error in the frameworks - any hints as what to look at ?
[11-Nov-2008 18:40:50] **slam666> Hi
[11-Nov-2008 18:41:39] **slam666> Anyone know a fix to solve the problem with netmask when adding a new ipinterface? Cant seem to be able to put anything except /24
[11-Nov-2008 18:45:30] **slam666> anybody alive here?
[11-Nov-2008 19:15:03] **cgibbons> crickets
[11-Nov-2008 19:19:52] **rhett_> i hear them
[11-Nov-2008 22:49:08] **slam666> Anyone know a fix to solve the problem with netmask when adding a new ipinterface? Cant seem to be able to put anything except /24
[11-Nov-2008 22:52:09] **rhett_> i am unsure. i only have 24 bit masks on my network
[11-Nov-2008 22:54:02] **slam666> it is not working in 2.2.4 and in 2.3 beta
[11-Nov-2008 22:54:29] **slam666> and wrong mask = mess up network map
[11-Nov-2008 22:54:48] **rhett_> yeah
[11-Nov-2008 23:13:19] **perr0> am I wrong that you can't have more then one template on a device at a time?
[11-Nov-2008 23:20:39] **davetoo> perr0 you're wrong
[11-Nov-2008 23:21:39] **davetoo> look at the zDeviceTemplates property
[11-Nov-2008 23:21:48] **davetoo> I don't even use the default Device template, personally
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:09] **davetoo> it's easier for me to make a heirarchy of device types by breaking it up into a bunch of small tempaltes
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xUCDlaLoadInt5
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xUCDssCpuBasic
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xUCDmemoryBasic
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xSysUpTime
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:17] **davetoo> xNPcheck_ntp
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:29] **perr0> davetoo: I is a n00b but I will keep reading
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:34] **davetoo> that's for a subset of my Linux systems
[11-Nov-2008 23:22:38] **perr0> k
[11-Nov-2008 23:23:04] **perr0> I probably got confused with loading remplates rather then having them
[11-Nov-2008 23:40:29] **perr0> davetoo: whereis the zdevice template properties?
[11-Nov-2008 23:41:07] **davetoo> in the zProperties tab of any /Devices class
[11-Nov-2008 23:46:49] **perr0> thanks
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[12-Nov-2008 10:58:34] **Kvisle> anyone have any idea when zenoss 2.3 will be released?
[12-Nov-2008 10:58:48] **Kvisle> (on the roadmap it has been stated as complete for a week now...)
[12-Nov-2008 14:47:32] **zenChild> I am getting a Python stack trace after binding ethernetCsmacd to "/Devices/Server/Linux". I have reset the bindings, but I continue to get the stack trace. Here is the stack trace I am seeing: http://pastie.org/313040
[12-Nov-2008 14:47:32] **zenChild> Anybody know how I can fix this?
[12-Nov-2008 14:47:41] **__adytum-bot__> Title: #313040 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
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[12-Nov-2008 18:15:03] **garnica> hi people ! has anyone monitored performance of an E1 link on a Cisco 3825 Call Manager ??
[12-Nov-2008 18:15:41] **nemo2> there is a call manager plugin
[12-Nov-2008 18:15:50] **nemo2> i inted to use it oneday, didnt get chance yet
[12-Nov-2008 18:16:48] **garnica> nemo2 thanks! I'll try that !
[12-Nov-2008 18:20:15] **Guest99203> can anyone point me to documentation on how to debug alert rules? ...
[12-Nov-2008 18:20:38] **Guest99203> I have some set up, that 'used' to work, but they have since stopped, and I don't know why?
[12-Nov-2008 18:20:51] **garnica> Guest99203: what zenoss version ??
[12-Nov-2008 18:21:10] **Guest99203> version 2.1.2
[12-Nov-2008 18:21:20] **Guest99203> enterprise edition
[12-Nov-2008 18:24:03] **garnica> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch19.html
[12-Nov-2008 18:24:19] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Nov-2008 18:29:51] **Guest99203> that only talks about setting them up... not debugging them. I had already set mine up and they _were_ working, now they don't. What I'm trying to find out is why they 'no longer' work.
[12-Nov-2008 18:31:48] **nemo2> Guest99203, i had similar issue ( was running 2.1.3 ent )
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:05] **nemo2> no access to my system now
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:26] **nemo2> is this the value in the filesystem transform or elsewhere ?
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:42] **Guest99203> Is there some kind of log for rule parsing?
[12-Nov-2008 18:32:57] **nemo2> sure
[12-Nov-2008 18:33:14] **nemo2> events.log , zenhub.og
[12-Nov-2008 18:33:31] **nemo2> and others , i generally grep through them all if i am not sure
[12-Nov-2008 18:37:00] **Guest99203> hmmm event.log and zenhub.log are empty, and I don't see anything in any of the other logs (thats related)
[12-Nov-2008 18:37:50] **nemo2> increase your verbosity
[12-Nov-2008 18:37:56] **Guest99203> maybe I should 'restart' zenoss??? can't hurt
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:07] **nemo2> consider running them on the command line without being a daemon
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:09] **Guest99203> increase verbosity where/how? ;-()
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:16] **nemo2> eg zenhub run -v10
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:19] **Guest99203> ahh
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:36] **nemo2> that will stop running when you quit
[12-Nov-2008 18:38:43] **nemo2> zenhub restart to restart
[12-Nov-2008 18:40:35] **Guest99203> OK, I will try yr suggestions, and see what happens
[12-Nov-2008 18:43:57] **Guest99203> wooahh... I rebooted the box, and a ton of alert emails just got delivered. something had hung them up. Don't know what... but problem is resolved.
[12-Nov-2008 18:45:30] **Guest99203> now if I could figure out why google maps has stopped working. :-)
[12-Nov-2008 18:47:52] **nemo2> i didnt fix that yet either
[12-Nov-2008 18:48:18] **nemo2> Guest99203, consider killall -9 python ( still terrible ) but no where near as bad a reboot ...
[12-Nov-2008 18:48:46] **nemo2> older versions of zenoss dont stay up as long imho
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:10] **nemo2> i used to have a restart / clean ( kill old processes etc ) running twice a day using 2.1.3
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:17] **Guest99203> I'll keep that in mind. thanks
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:26] **Guest99203> gack... twice a day!
[12-Nov-2008 18:49:33] **nemo2> its improved
[12-Nov-2008 18:50:06] **nemo2> but i hate the way bugs are not dealt with, if a user makes a suggestion ( particularly an ent user )
[12-Nov-2008 18:50:16] **nemo2> it should be dealt with
[12-Nov-2008 18:50:29] **nemo2> zenoss is hard to use sometime, user improvements should be golden to them
[12-Nov-2008 18:51:27] **nemo2> i have about 30-40 scripts / transforms / filters set up to keep the console quiet and relevant
[12-Nov-2008 19:02:17] **garnica> gee.... I am using 2.1.3 ... restart / clean ??... have command examples ??
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:11] **nemo2> zenoss stop
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:16] **garnica> k
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:28] **nemo2> some kind of bash to detect and kill processes from zenoss that really didnt stop
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:32] **nemo2> and zenoss start
[12-Nov-2008 19:03:34] **cjackel> speaking of restarts, I no longer seem to be collecting current data on drive space. Other monitoring is working. Which daemon should I punt?
[12-Nov-2008 19:04:04] **nemo2> garnica, to be used sparingly
[12-Nov-2008 19:04:31] **garnica> ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:04:32] **nemo2> cjackel, check your zenperfsnmp log
[12-Nov-2008 19:06:23] **perr0> only punk newbies reboot
[12-Nov-2008 19:06:26] **garnica> did you include deleting *.zec , *.pickle in your script ??
[12-Nov-2008 19:06:46] **nemo2> i did
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:00] **Nireck> hey Hi everyone
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:02] **garnica> gee.... I'll have that in mind
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:09] **garnica> thanks !
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:17] **Nireck> wow I did not expect so many users in this channel
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:23] **nemo2> garnica, np newer versions work better, 2.3 is around the corner
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:35] **nemo2> i am not going to go for it right now
[12-Nov-2008 19:07:49] **nemo2> were are going to keep at 2.2.3/4 for another 3 months i think
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:07] **Nireck> Hi?
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:09] **cjackel> Log has recent entries, but some servers that previously reported in now show 'unknown' for free bytes, etc. It still gets network interface data. I don't think anything changed on the server being monitored.
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:11] **garnica> I'm planning upgrading to 2.2.4 ( latest stable ??) 'cause have not tested 2.3
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:31] **garnica> yep
[12-Nov-2008 19:08:36] **nemo2> cjackel, according to a ticket i had that can happen when your system is overloaded
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:00] **nemo2> so hows your load
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:05] **cjackel> only monitoring 20 servers or so
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:08] **Nireck> help anyone im having an email alert problem
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:33] **nemo2> well what about load etc
[12-Nov-2008 19:09:37] **nemo2> number of events
[12-Nov-2008 19:10:51] **Nireck> Ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:01] **cjackel> few events, zenoss server isn't taxed, this is still a test box
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:01] **Nireck> im back
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:23] **Nireck> Hey anyone, Im having a text box with an email alert problem
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:34] **nemo2> cjackel, are you exceding collection cycle time
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:37] **nemo2> s
[12-Nov-2008 19:11:44] **Nireck> tried with different smtp configurations without any luck
[12-Nov-2008 19:12:28] **cjackel> Would I see that in the perfsnmp log if I were?
[12-Nov-2008 19:12:58] **nemo2> well , same goes for most of the daemons.but yeh
[12-Nov-2008 19:13:20] **nemo2> each daemon reports and the end about the cycle stats
[12-Nov-2008 19:13:31] **nemo2> at the end*
[12-Nov-2008 19:14:01] **nemo2> too many devices not responding to snmp for example can cause a problem
[12-Nov-2008 19:14:42] **nemo2> but 20 machines doesnt sound like too much work does it ...
[12-Nov-2008 19:18:00] **exodus_reborn> @nemo2 Just FYI, I'm monitoring a little over 300 devices
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[12-Nov-2008 19:19:03] **nemo2> having the same issues exodus_reborn ?
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:08] **exodus_reborn> nemo2: Not with snmp polling for standard attributes. Zenoss does seem to tank if you send info syslog messages.
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:23] **nemo2> yeh i have a seperate system for syslogs
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:34] **nemo2> external collectors are the answer
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:45] **nemo2> solved all my issues, then created some new ones
[12-Nov-2008 19:21:59] **exodus_reborn> Nice, I'll check it out
[12-Nov-2008 19:22:09] **nemo2> depends on how many devices
[12-Nov-2008 19:22:22] **exodus_reborn> about 50 or so
[12-Nov-2008 19:23:16] **nemo2> i have 3000+ on a 16gam /8 cpu box
[12-Nov-2008 19:23:35] **nemo2> and the interface / zenhub running on a disk server
[12-Nov-2008 19:24:06] **nemo2> 2u or so, seperate disk pairs for db, os and zenoss
[12-Nov-2008 19:24:13] **nemo2> performance seems pretty goood
[12-Nov-2008 19:25:27] **exodus_reborn> I see. 300 devices doesn't quite merit that redundancy or hardware performance but that seems to be a pretty nice setup
[12-Nov-2008 19:25:45] **nemo2> there is zero redundancy in mine
[12-Nov-2008 19:25:53] **exodus_reborn> Just performance?
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:04] **nemo2> i monitor 30k details every few minutes
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:08] **nemo2> it all adds up
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:11] **exodus_reborn> I see
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:31] **exodus_reborn> How long do you archive all events?
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:34] **nemo2> depends if you just ping them or do the full works
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:41] **nemo2> i have everything since we started
[12-Nov-2008 19:26:48] **nemo2> but thats stored in events on mysql
[12-Nov-2008 19:27:01] **nemo2> device data is stored in the zeo db
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:23] **exodus_reborn> Is that the default config? (this is where I start showing how much I've used zenoss
)[12-Nov-2008 19:29:49] **exodus_reborn> I thought events + device data was stored in the zeo db by default
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:51] **nemo2> i dunno i forget what default is .. been a while
[12-Nov-2008 19:29:57] **exodus_reborn> I understand
[12-Nov-2008 19:30:03] **nemo2> no ,always been that way for mysql / zeo
[12-Nov-2008 19:30:14] **exodus_reborn> Ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:30:21] **nemo2> common misunderstanding
[12-Nov-2008 19:31:00] **nemo2> i thought you meant about if the default was ping only or the works with graphs
[12-Nov-2008 19:31:18] **exodus_reborn> I see
[12-Nov-2008 19:31:18] **Nireck> hey guys a quick question, did u setup our email alerts with a sendmail server or did u use another option??
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:03] **nemo2> Nireck, not sure it just worked on day 1 and i didnt look again
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:13] **Nireck> hahhaa
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:14] **nemo2> dont have access to my zenoss atm
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:20] **Nireck> ok
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:38] **Nireck> It is because I tried ( for testing purposes) to set it up via gmail
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:53] **Nireck> and a local active directory
[12-Nov-2008 19:32:58] **Nireck> an d no luck at all
[12-Nov-2008 19:33:40] **nemo2> well that doesnt mean too much really
[12-Nov-2008 19:33:50] **nemo2> could be anything, prob not zenoss
[12-Nov-2008 19:33:55] **Nireck> and certainly i dont want to set up a dedicated email server just for zenoss to work
[12-Nov-2008 19:34:01] **nemo2> check your logs first
[12-Nov-2008 19:34:57] **Nireck> Checked that, No local host mail is received, and also no test mails, but i can connect via terminal to the above mentioned smtp servers
[12-Nov-2008 19:35:40] **Nireck> well Ill keep trying
[12-Nov-2008 19:58:13] **cgibbons> hmmm
[12-Nov-2008 20:38:47] **fotios> ok, maybe im totally missing something here. i just installed zenoss on ubuntu using the stack installer, but i dont see any networks in the web app
[12-Nov-2008 20:38:55] **fotios> is there somewhere that im supposed to configure them?
[12-Nov-2008 20:41:51] **cgibbons> if you add or discover any devices it will automatically add networks as they are found from the devices, OR you can manually add them with subnets
[12-Nov-2008 20:42:32] **fotios> cgibbons: how can i manually add the subnets?
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:23] **cjackel> Question: I have this error. "Error reading value for "memBuffer" on vmhost1.strangeloop.net (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)"
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:30] **cjackel> yet if I manually check from the zenoss server
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:40] **cjackel> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public 192.168.140.15 .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[12-Nov-2008 20:48:46] **cjackel> I get an integer back
[12-Nov-2008 20:49:56] **cjackel> what does 'is bad" mean?
[12-Nov-2008 21:05:03] **nemo2> simply means that isnt available on your system
[12-Nov-2008 21:05:42] **nemo2> so i read on the forum, was a reply from zenoss staff as i remember
[12-Nov-2008 21:06:02] **nemo2> convinced me, i set up transforms to drop the events
[12-Nov-2008 21:06:52] **nemo2> not sure about the membuffer thing
[12-Nov-2008 21:07:03] **nemo2> which template / collection is that ?
[12-Nov-2008 21:07:40] **nemo2> cjackel, i must look into that too, see if during snmpwalk i get a value
[12-Nov-2008 21:09:07] **fotios> does every machine need to have snmp to be discovered? or can zenoss do some kind of ping sweep
[12-Nov-2008 21:09:33] **fotios> i had my subnet added properly, but its not coming up with any machines
[12-Nov-2008 21:11:29] **nemo2> i do a loop called loadDevice via REST
[12-Nov-2008 21:12:03] **nemo2> wget http://user:password@zenoss.mysite.com/zendmd/etc/etcpassword@zenoss.mysite.com/zendmd/etc/etc
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[12-Nov-2008 21:12:22] **nemo2> and specify discoveryProtocol=none
[12-Nov-2008 21:12:47] **nemo2> something like that fotios
[12-Nov-2008 21:12:53] **nemo2> have a google around
[12-Nov-2008 21:59:04] **garnica> test
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[13-Nov-2008 02:48:25] **pat2man> so I just installed 2.3, I cant quite tell from the release notes but can 2.3 do performance monitoring with WMI or do we still need snmp?
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[13-Nov-2008 11:35:26] **uwe> hello, im getting missing RDD file on wmi perf! the mailing list http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2008/019705.html says i need to install snmp informant! but i do not understand why ?? wmic should be getting the data , why would i need the informant? that would be simply a diffrent way of retriving the data ... right ?
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[13-Nov-2008 17:07:55] **jeld> hello all
[13-Nov-2008 18:52:36] **fotios> how can i add a /24 network to zenoss?
[13-Nov-2008 18:52:41] **fotios> do i just do it as the id?
[13-Nov-2008 18:52:45] **fotios> 10.10.10.0/24?
[13-Nov-2008 19:17:30] **nonsenso> i'm trying to roll separate performance graphs using HTTPMonitor for a web cluster and am unable to add virtual hosts.. getting the error "manage ip already exists"
[13-Nov-2008 19:17:38] **nonsenso> has anyone ran into this?
[13-Nov-2008 19:22:58] **perr0> no me, sorry.
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:24] **rhett_> fotios: go to networks under 'browse by' and add the network and as you stated add the id of 10.10.10.0/24
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:50] **fotios> rhett_: ya, i got it added, but was getting errors when trying to discover
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:55] **rhett_> hm
[13-Nov-2008 19:26:58] **fotios> but restarting the vm seems to have fixed all my problems
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:02] **rhett_> i see
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:05] **rhett_> good
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:05] **fotios> it was the stock appliance too
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:12] **fotios> anybody else try to run that out of the box/
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:17] **rhett_> no
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:37] **fotios> it was giving me some errors in the .py scripts called by zendisc
[13-Nov-2008 19:27:56] **rhett_> i've always added the routers first so that all the subnets get added to the network list
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:12] **fotios> do you just add those throguh the devices?
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:34] **fotios> and i guess by ip where it says name
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:45] **rhett_> well when you add the device it gets the routing table if snmp is working
[13-Nov-2008 19:28:48] **rhett_> or should
[13-Nov-2008 19:29:31] **fotios> can it use any version of snmp?
[13-Nov-2008 19:31:39] **cjackel_> What does this error mean? "Error reading value for "memBuffer" on testserver.internal.net (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)". From the zenoss server I can manually read that OID with snmpwalk, so I don't think it is is a connection problem.
[13-Nov-2008 19:39:35] **nonsenso> ok, so i guess you have to make individual performance graphs for each vhost you want to monitor.
[13-Nov-2008 19:39:39] **nonsenso> that's a bummer.
[13-Nov-2008 20:02:54] **fotios> rhett_: i tried adding my cisco switch and it has the interfaces, but it doesnt have the ip's or subnets from it
[13-Nov-2008 20:02:59] **fotios> i can get that information from snmpwalk
[13-Nov-2008 20:03:06] **fotios> is there a way to force it to get that informatin
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:08] **rhett_> fotios: what happens when you try to snmpwalk it?
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:30] **rhett_> i.e. 'snmpwalk -v 2c (or 1) -c community hostname/ip .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.21
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:44] **rhett_> '
[13-Nov-2008 20:07:55] **fotios> when i do it from a command line, i get all the information i expect
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:13] **fotios> but im not sure how to get zenoss to populate that information
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:27] **nemo2> it might be a mib issue
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:40] **nemo2> http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1295652&page=1
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:42] **nemo2> same oid
[13-Nov-2008 20:08:55] **__adytum-bot__> Title: SNMP Simple Network Management Protocol - SNMP >4GB memory values in linux (at www.tek-tips.com)
[13-Nov-2008 20:09:45] **nemo2> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=26998#26998
[13-Nov-2008 20:09:59] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Performance graphs missing (at forums.zenoss.com)
[13-Nov-2008 20:56:30] **pat2man> does anyone know how to upgrade the vmware image to 2.3?
[13-Nov-2008 20:56:46] **pat2man> there is a forum post but no answers: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8021&highlight=conary
[13-Nov-2008 20:57:00] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Migrate VMWare Appliance to 2.3 (at forums.zenoss.com)
[13-Nov-2008 20:59:10] **rhett_> pat2man: it should be the same upgrade process as the other packages
[13-Nov-2008 21:01:12] **pat2man> well the upgrade document says to run conary migrate
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:21] **pat2man> here is the upgrade document: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:35] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:37] **rhett_> does the vmware image have conary? i dont recall what its based on
[13-Nov-2008 21:02:42] **pat2man> it does
[13-Nov-2008 21:03:45] **pat2man> the 2.3 release mentions adding devel// to the conary command
[13-Nov-2008 21:03:58] **pat2man> what I have is: conary migrate --interactive --resolve \ group-zenoss=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//core-2.3
[13-Nov-2008 21:04:42] **pat2man> but it says group-zenoss was not found
[13-Nov-2008 21:05:50] **rhett_> what do you get when you use the 'groups' command
[13-Nov-2008 21:06:07] **rhett_> you should see zenoss
[13-Nov-2008 21:06:25] **pat2man> i just see root
[13-Nov-2008 21:06:46] **rhett_> hm
[13-Nov-2008 21:07:03] **rhett_> i have next to know expeirce w/ the vmware image or conary :\
[13-Nov-2008 21:07:19] **rhett_> no even
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:18] **pat2man> this is my first time using it as well
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:26] **pat2man> conary seems to see the 2.2 branch
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:39] **pat2man> but not the 2.3
[13-Nov-2008 21:08:50] **pat2man> despite the fact that the 2.3 vmware image is up
[13-Nov-2008 21:09:13] **pat2man> I was thinking of running a zenbackup on 2.2 and then replacing it with 2.3, but I would rather do a conary upgrade if possible
[13-Nov-2008 21:10:28] **rhett_> yeah
[13-Nov-2008 21:12:47] **rhett_> well for what its worth i just upgraded the 2.3 beta to the final using rpm -U and everything worked great (or appears to)
[13-Nov-2008 21:14:46] **pat2man> yeah if I had a rpm based distro I assume that would work
[13-Nov-2008 21:14:52] **pat2man> and I assume the same for apt
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:07] **rhett_> yeah :\
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:14] **pat2man> but I think that the conary repository has not been updated yet, so I will have to wait
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:25] **philippe-> Hi, can someone point me in the proper direction ? I'm monitoring a linux machine running net-snmp. When I add an interface say eth0, I get errors saying "Error reading value for "eth0" on XXX.YYY.com (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.0 is bad)". But when I chekc the template and the values for these OIDs everythig seems fine, better even if I dig down the template to the above OID and I use the test function in thae template to t
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:25] **philippe-> t OID but when zenoss tries to poll the OIDs for the interface it doesn't work. any ideas ?
[13-Nov-2008 21:15:27] **rhett_> only time ive used conary is w/ openfiler and that was only to get net-snmp
[13-Nov-2008 21:16:54] **pat2man> philippe- did you try snmpget with that oid on the box?
[13-Nov-2008 21:17:05] **philippe-> yes, works..
[13-Nov-2008 21:17:24] **philippe-> actually, in the error mesage there seems to be an extra zero at the end..
[13-Nov-2008 21:18:24] **philippe-> so if I snmpwalk with that OID it doesn't work but if I remove that last zero it does.
[13-Nov-2008 21:19:36] **pat2man> which version of zenoss are you using?
[13-Nov-2008 21:22:53] **philippe-> 2.2.4
[13-Nov-2008 21:26:05] **pat2man> well I dont know what to tell you, there are some people having that error on the forums
[13-Nov-2008 21:26:32] **philippe-> it's as if when the automated query is done it apends a zero to an otherwise proper OID..
[13-Nov-2008 21:26:54] **philippe-> Hmm, I will go throw myself in there and see..
[13-Nov-2008 21:27:11] **philippe-> thanks for reading me
[13-Nov-2008 22:20:06] **exodus_reborn> Is anyone using LDAP authentication for Zenoss 2.2.4?
[13-Nov-2008 22:20:33] **exodus_reborn> *openLDAP to be specific
[13-Nov-2008 22:22:46] **rhett_> not me. sorry
[13-Nov-2008 22:27:07] **exodus_reborn> I guess it's not as popular a configuration as I'd hoped
[13-Nov-2008 22:44:46] **rhett_> yeah :\
[13-Nov-2008 23:02:37] **exodus_reborn> I got the LDAP auth working
[13-Nov-2008 23:03:08] **exodus_reborn> Its not reading the user list from LDAP but it is authenticating. Just FYI
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[14-Nov-2008 00:41:24] **garnica> Has anyone here have QoS Performance graphs out of a Cisco 3560 through snmp ??
[14-Nov-2008 10:51:16] **Weetos> Hi there
[14-Nov-2008 10:54:28] **Weetos> I'm using zenoss core 2.2.4 on a debian Etch system, and plan on upgrading to 2.3 - is there any server that I can add to my apt sources list, so I can take advantage of the apt feature to upgrade (eg aptitude update zenoss-stack) ?
[14-Nov-2008 10:55:47] **Weetos> s/aptitude update/aptitude install/
[14-Nov-2008 10:57:41] **Weetos> oops sorry just found it
[14-Nov-2008 11:07:05] **Weetos> uh no 2.3 published on http://dev.zenoss.org/deb/
[14-Nov-2008 11:07:14] **__adytum-bot__> Title: Index of /deb (at dev.zenoss.org)
[14-Nov-2008 11:07:56] **Weetos> anybody awake in here ?
[14-Nov-2008 11:17:39] **Weetos> anybody alive ?
[14-Nov-2008 11:18:36] **Weetos> the whole channel is dead ?
[14-Nov-2008 13:01:23] **evil-lw> Weetos: i've found that few people here ever respond...
[14-Nov-2008 13:02:42] **Weetos> yep I've came twice before today and never ever get a sign of life
[14-Nov-2008 13:03:03] **Weetos> Thanks for being alive and talkative, evil-lw !
[14-Nov-2008 13:06:38] **evil-lw> I was just passing by, I'm running late for work this morning
[14-Nov-2008 13:06:59] **evil-lw> I've had to just sit and idle, and be an annoying pest on a question or two... most of the time I've ended figuring it out
[14-Nov-2008 13:07:00] **Weetos> slightly off-topic, but no one cares anyway, is your nick related to LightWave (lw)?
[14-Nov-2008 13:07:12] **evil-lw> and have had to learn to read python to an extent as well
[14-Nov-2008 13:08:24] **Weetos> yep python knowledge is kind of required :/ I'm trying to learn it as well
[14-Nov-2008 13:08:41] **evil-lw> no, my nick was LW from XWorld years and years ago, I got an Oline on XWorld and the owner of the network started calling me "LW" and it kind of stuck... for over a decade
[14-Nov-2008 13:09:13] **Weetos> ha ok
[14-Nov-2008 13:09:26] **evil-lw> yeah, its not really easy for me because most of what I end up reading at work is bash, perl, c, or java, python is a bit different
[14-Nov-2008 13:10:12] **evil-lw> Weetos: I use LW on most other networks I venture on to... but really at this point its limited to gimpnet...
[14-Nov-2008 13:11:06] **Weetos> yes it is - seems powerfull though - the syntax and the paradigm is a bit strange to me, but oh well
[14-Nov-2008 13:11:13] **Weetos> oh ok
[14-Nov-2008 14:51:03] **NoxIn-> Weetos: I installed 2.3 yesterday on a debian Lenny using the .deb from the website and using dpkg -i
[14-Nov-2008 15:08:05] **Weetos> Hi NoxIn-
[14-Nov-2008 15:08:24] **Weetos> you mean you upgraded from a previous version ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:08:43] **Weetos> or you did a fresh install of zenoss ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:09:03] **NoxIn-> no, as I only discovered zenoss a few days ago, I started from a fresh install
[14-Nov-2008 15:09:12] **Weetos> oh ok
[14-Nov-2008 15:09:40] **NoxIn-> but my point is ... the important from a debian point of view is the .deb pacquage ...
[14-Nov-2008 15:10:02] **NoxIn-> apt-get (or aptitude) use dpkg behind so it's the same
[14-Nov-2008 15:10:54] **Weetos> yep I get that, but I don't want to lose my data during the upgrade process, so I'm be bit worry
[14-Nov-2008 15:12:24] **Weetos> when I look at some upgrade howto there are some steps described (using zenmigrate, for instance) and I don't know if I have to do those steps when using the deb package when upgrading
[14-Nov-2008 15:14:08] **Weetos> and after all since there's a deb repository, why do I have to jump through hoops when an apt-get install would normally take care of everything ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:14:58] **NoxIn-> apt-get juste resolve dependencies and install paquages
[14-Nov-2008 15:15:16] **NoxIn-> for zenoss you have on big package contening all it needs
[14-Nov-2008 15:15:56] **Weetos> When you upgrade an Apache/PHP/mysql server, all you have to do is 'apt-get install apache php mysql-server' and it preserves your configs and data, right ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:16:00] **NoxIn-> backup your database and your files before to make sure you can revert if something goes wrong (and this stays true with apt)
[14-Nov-2008 15:16:12] **Weetos> Ok
[14-Nov-2008 15:17:36] **NoxIn-> right ... but when you upgrade apache and php on a debian stable you get a package where people tested the upgrade on unstable for a least 2 weeks, then more people tested in testing ...
[14-Nov-2008 15:19:46] **Weetos> I'm well that makes sense
[14-Nov-2008 15:21:29] **Weetos> Ok so I'm gonna backup my zenoss dir and the database, and then try a "dpkg -i zenoss-stack_2.3.0_i386.deb", and that's it ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:24:06] **NoxIn-> I can't say yes, I didn't tested it ... but I just say that doing so is the same as if you were doing an apt-get install zenoss-stack with the 2.3 in the repository
[14-Nov-2008 15:24:54] **Weetos> Ok then, Thank you so much for your help and explanations
[14-Nov-2008 15:25:21] **NoxIn-> you're welcome... I'am very new to zenoss
[14-Nov-2008 15:26:38] **Weetos> So far, what do you think of this software ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:37:58] **NoxIn-> network autodiscovery works best than any other I tested, I like the tree of devices types to classifie, (or locations etc) ...
[14-Nov-2008 15:38:23] **NoxIn-> for the monitoring/alerting part I still have to test it
[14-Nov-2008 15:39:26] **Weetos> I have a few issues here and there regarding the way zenoss handles subnets, but it's been worked out, as far as I know
[14-Nov-2008 15:40:50] **Weetos> besides this, this is best tool I tested so far - my only concern is that there's no way to have custom maps at the moment - I do hope this is going to be implemented soon
[14-Nov-2008 15:41:37] **NoxIn-> custom map ?
[14-Nov-2008 15:45:47] **Weetos> yes, say you want to have to view of your network from a logical point of view, not geograhical
[14-Nov-2008 15:46:59] **Weetos> a bit like in the Network Map section, but not necesserly interactive
[14-Nov-2008 15:47:31] **Weetos> having the ability to use any background image, also
[14-Nov-2008 15:47:53] **Weetos> We had those features in our previous NMS and I really miss them
[14-Nov-2008 16:27:17] **DaveS> having trouble upgrading a vm appliance - getting branch not found - anyone have the correct location for the upgrade?
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:54] **cjackel> I just saw this in the release notes.
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:57] **cjackel> Appliance Upgrade
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:57] **cjackel> If you see the following error when following the “conary migrate” instruction to upgrade the
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:57] **cjackel> Zenoss Virtual Appliance image:
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:58] **cjackel> “group-zenoss-enterprise was not found on branch...â€
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:58] **cjackel> then insert “devel//” in the string. For example, if migrating from Zenoss Enterprise Version 2.2.x
[14-Nov-2008 16:32:58] **cjackel> to Version 2.3, enter this command:
[14-Nov-2008 16:33:00] **cjackel> conary migrate --interactive --resolve \
[14-Nov-2008 16:33:02] **cjackel> group-zenoss-enterprise=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//enterprise- 2.3
[14-Nov-2008 16:33:21] **DaveSt_y> yeah I tried that, no joy
[14-Nov-2008 16:34:44] **DaveSt_y> getting the infamous branch not found - even with the devel string
[14-Nov-2008 16:34:56] **DaveSt_y> I'm also working core, not enterprise, that make a difference?
[14-Nov-2008 16:35:24] **DaveSt_y> gotta go to lunch, will check back later
[14-Nov-2008 21:22:09] **shyru> hi all!
[14-Nov-2008 21:22:40] **shyru> hi garnica !
[14-Nov-2008 21:26:45] **rhett_> hello
[14-Nov-2008 21:46:52] **shyru> anybody know, if i can install zenoss 2.3 for production?
[14-Nov-2008 22:05:45] **garnica> hi shyru returning from lunch
[14-Nov-2008 22:06:07] **shyru> garnica,
[14-Nov-2008 22:07:36] **shyru> no problem garnica on MX it's friday that's meaning everybody go slowly
[14-Nov-2008 22:08:49] **garnica> yep
thats true[14-Nov-2008 22:19:13] **garnica> mmm
[14-Nov-2008 22:19:31] **garnica> I have not tested 2.3 yet.... mmm can not assure
[14-Nov-2008 22:39:00] **shyru> dam!!
[14-Nov-2008 22:39:49] **shyru> garnica, im updated my zenoss to 2.3 and does not display anything on dashboard :S
[14-Nov-2008 22:41:00] **shyru> all device there are, and almost work ok, excluding the dashboard
[14-Nov-2008 22:42:09] **rhett_> hm
[14-Nov-2008 22:44:14] **rhett_> so i thought for some reason nested locations seemed to work in 2.3 core (which seems like it has never worked in the past for me) but i appear to be wrong. i have say /locations/clients/clientname/client-location w/ address set for client-location and i only get one dot on the map for all of /locations/clients
[14-Nov-2008 22:44:23] **rhett_> any one else seen that
[14-Nov-2008 22:46:00] **garnica> mm ok
[14-Nov-2008 22:46:24] **garnica> maybe the dashboard has not been configured
[14-Nov-2008 22:46:41] **garnica> go to dashboard and try to add portlet....
[14-Nov-2008 23:19:13] **|Lurch|> good TOD all...
[14-Nov-2008 23:21:38] **|Lurch|> having a bit of a tough time getting zenoss to find and monitor the Filesystems. doing "Model Device" does not help - Filesystems do not appear in the list. ("No File Systems")
[14-Nov-2008 23:23:09] **|Lurch|> i've verified that snmp properly returns all filesystems and their blocks/usage. "snmpdf" works from command line of the zenoss host. but filesystems never show up in the list.
[14-Nov-2008 23:25:35] **nemo2> what is the oid view tree in your snmpd.conf
[14-Nov-2008 23:25:45] **nemo2> is it .1 or 1.3.6.....
[14-Nov-2008 23:26:26] **|Lurch|> nemo2: "oid view"?
[14-Nov-2008 23:28:08] **garnica> what's the difference between snmp .1.3.6.1 or 1.3.6.1... ?
[14-Nov-2008 23:32:51] **|Lurch|> nemo2: sorry, connection died. i do not know what you meant by "oid view"
[14-Nov-2008 23:37:38] **nemo2> did you look in your snmpd.conf ?
[14-Nov-2008 23:38:28] **|Lurch|> nemo2: i have only one line there, the "rocommunity" name
[14-Nov-2008 23:39:43] **nemo2> you might need a more complete config
[14-Nov-2008 23:39:47] **nemo2> what distro ?
[14-Nov-2008 23:40:03] **|Lurch|> nemo2: net-snmp?
[14-Nov-2008 23:40:24] **|Lurch|> nemo2: snmpwalk shows that all disk info is in there, and properly reported to zenoss
[14-Nov-2008 23:40:50] **nemo2> linux distro i meant
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:03] **|Lurch|> nemo2: all other parameters (e.g. load, memory, processes, nics, routing table, ...) are reported correctly as well and show up in zenoss
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:03] **nemo2> you should have more than rocommunity
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:10] **|Lurch|> nemo2: don't use linux
[14-Nov-2008 23:41:19] **nemo2> oh?
[14-Nov-2008 23:43:55] **|Lurch|> nemo2: there are definitely no permission problems - snmpdf from zenoss machine shows all partitions, sizes, usage, %, etc... just zenoss refuses to add them to Filesystems list when doing "Model"
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[15-Nov-2008 00:21:22] **nemo2> what collector plugins do you have set for your device
[15-Nov-2008 00:22:12] **|Lurch|> nemo2: double checking now..
[15-Nov-2008 00:22:49] **|Lurch|> nemo2: many, including zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap
[15-Nov-2008 00:27:09] **nemo2> you have nothing at all in the disks ?
[15-Nov-2008 00:27:31] **nemo2> what does it say if you try to model the device again
[15-Nov-2008 00:27:52] **|Lurch|> nemo2: no, nothing at all.
[15-Nov-2008 00:29:23] **|Lurch|> when modeling, it shows the command line (Executing command: /home.../zenmodeler run --now...)
[15-Nov-2008 00:29:35] **|Lurch|> lots of output, then at the end "configuration collected"
[15-Nov-2008 00:30:11] **|Lurch|> as part of the output it says "procssign zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap for device ..." ... looks same as others in the list.
[15-Nov-2008 00:31:26] **nemo2> no idea then
[15-Nov-2008 00:32:30] **|Lurch|> nemo2: i don't either. been banging head against wall for about a month now on/off...
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[17-Nov-2008 01:41:25] **fotios> wc
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[17-Nov-2008 14:58:09] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[17-Nov-2008 14:58:27] **raddy> I have recently installed ZenOSS 2.3
[17-Nov-2008 14:59:42] **raddy> I wanted to know that is there any way to monitor IP Service of remote machine without opening it's port, just using snmpd
[17-Nov-2008 14:59:48] **raddy> Is it possible?
[17-Nov-2008 15:02:09] **Danuvius> Hello Is it possible to create custom reports in zenoss core based on a filtered list of all monitored components?
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[17-Nov-2008 21:15:15] **pat2man> has anyone seen this error: WMIFailure: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED on some servers but not others when the account is a domain account?
[17-Nov-2008 21:15:26] **pat2man> also wmic from the command line works
[17-Nov-2008 21:15:50] **pat2man> and I defined the winpass and winuser all the way down at /
[17-Nov-2008 21:18:37] **zenChild> pat2man: I've seen that on boxes that have extra security set for wmi applied via security templates, etc. There is a mmc snap-in that manages security for WMI.
[17-Nov-2008 21:20:26] **pat2man> hmm, ok
[17-Nov-2008 21:20:28] **pat2man> I will check
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[17-Nov-2008 17:09:27] **Horsemann> Afternoon all
[17-Nov-2008 17:09:43] **Horsemann> Have a general question, is this a good place to ask?
[17-Nov-2008 17:09:59] **Horsemann> Or are we all BOTS
[17-Nov-2008 17:10:33] **nemo2> one should ask in order to know , imho
[17-Nov-2008 17:10:54] **Horsemann> Ahh very true
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:13] **Horsemann> Okay First love Zenoss, has been the answer to many of my problems... but...
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:38] **Horsemann> I need to execute a cscript under windows 2003 with winexe...
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:46] **Horsemann> no matter the format I use it fails..
[17-Nov-2008 17:11:54] **Horsemann> any ideas?
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:03] **nemo2> your user zuser
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:19] **nemo2> zwinuser? ( i cant remember exactley )
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:34] **Horsemann> Yes did that... all other commands done with winexe work just fine remotely..
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:52] **nemo2> hmmmz
[17-Nov-2008 17:12:59] **nemo2> are you in a domain ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:13] **Horsemann> just when trying to use csript with the iisapp.vbs provided by Microsoft wont run...
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:15] **Horsemann> Yes
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:16] **nemo2> is there are a policy or something maybe ? i am a unix guy
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:20] **Horsemann> And I use domain
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:26] **nemo2> dont really know that much about windows
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:28] **Horsemann> user
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:41] **nemo2> i think it needs to be an admin
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:46] **Horsemann> It is..
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:52] **nemo2> domain admin ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:13:55] **Horsemann> Yes..
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:04] **nemo2> ours worked
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:17] **nemo2> but then i stopped using it , domain admin ...
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:19] **Horsemann> running a VBS script?
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:23] **Horsemann> ahh
[17-Nov-2008 17:14:47] **Horsemann> there are times I need to reset a IIS APP pool....
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:00] **nemo2> not really much help ... you have tried wbmetest or whatever yes ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:03] **Horsemann> and this script does a great job... when ran locally
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:09] **Horsemann> Yes
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:22] **nemo2> and you are running it with the same user as local or .. ?
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:30] **Horsemann> Honestly think it has to do with the winexe I know there are still bugs with it..
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:33] **Horsemann> Yes
[17-Nov-2008 17:15:42] **Horsemann> Same as local..
[17-Nov-2008 17:16:29] **nemo2> yeh i am not much use then, we just used up all my windows knowledge
[17-Nov-2008 17:16:32] **nemo2> :/
[17-Nov-2008 17:17:14] **Horsemann> well Nemo2 thx for trying...
[17-Nov-2008 17:17:24] **Horsemann> guess I will do some more googling
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[18-Nov-2008 08:21:51] **Steak__> hello all
[18-Nov-2008 08:24:29] **Steak__> a simple question (That may lead to a complex answer) : is there any way to extract a single field from a Zenoss device using an HTTP request?
[18-Nov-2008 08:26:16] **Steak__> I'm really trying to see if somebody else had this need in the past, but I am not much lucky in my search
[18-Nov-2008 09:15:57] **jmp242> I'm trying to figure out some event transforms with moving data from an event details to the event summary
[18-Nov-2008 09:16:30] **jmp242> Specifically, I'm working on the area /Events /Security /Auth
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:13] **jmp242> I want to get the event when I get snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure , I then (and only then) put the IP in the summary that the attempt came from
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:41] **jmp242> I don't want to do it for all events necessarily, as I don't know that all traps / events will have the OID I'm looking for
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:43] **jmp242> so I've tried
[18-Nov-2008 09:17:57] **jmp242> if evt.summary == "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure":
[18-Nov-2008 09:18:09] **jmp242> evt.summary = "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from " + getattr(evt,"1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.5.0")
[18-Nov-2008 09:18:32] **jmp242> But it never seems to fire - I'm guessing something is wrong with the matching
[18-Nov-2008 09:31:38] **jmp242> any ideas?
[18-Nov-2008 09:35:02] **nemo2> i am not @ work, so i cant look up an existing transform, .. but isnt it in the evt.component ?
[18-Nov-2008 09:37:34] **jmp242> evt.component is blank in this event
[18-Nov-2008 09:39:15] **nemo2> hmmm
[18-Nov-2008 09:40:57] **jmp242> I wonder, would it make more sense to do this via another event class mapping and then do the transform there? But I don't think I can? It's pre-mapped to /Events /Security /Auth
[18-Nov-2008 09:41:15] **jmp242> I suppose I could create a new mapping, sequence it 0 and make the one in /Events /Security /Auth sequence 1
[18-Nov-2008 09:41:38] **jmp242> and then just apply the transform to everything in my new event class
[18-Nov-2008 09:42:01] **jmp242> but that seems like a lot of extra work to do something that ought to work in the transform like I can do for event severity . . .
[18-Nov-2008 09:57:31] **nemo2> where are you applying the transform ?
[18-Nov-2008 09:57:43] **nemo2> there are 2 ways, 1 sucks if there is no component
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:06] **nemo2> you should be doing this at the class ->transform level
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:17] **nemo2> not at the mapped event
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:22] **nemo2> if you follow me
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:27] **jmp242> Right, I'm trying to do this at /Events /Security /Auth -> transform
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:43] **nemo2> kool.
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:45] **jmp242> but it just doesn't seem to fire...
[18-Nov-2008 09:58:51] **jmp242> Maybe I'm just doing something wrong
[18-Nov-2008 09:59:12] **nemo2> i often grep through /opt/zenoss/Products
[18-Nov-2008 09:59:33] **nemo2> seeing if i can find out how zenoss do it
[18-Nov-2008 09:59:45] **nemo2> not that i am all succesfull with it either
[18-Nov-2008 10:07:09] **jmp242> hmmm
[18-Nov-2008 12:44:35] **garnica> How could I monitor availability of a process in a windows server ??
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[19-Nov-2008 02:26:10] **Gecko> Hi there, can anyone point me to any document describing how to optimize zenoss? I'm having extremely high cpu load. It's primarily python that takes the load...
[19-Nov-2008 03:45:32] **Danuvius> Hi At the moment I'm writing a custom report and I want to test the report from the command line. According to the documentation this is possible, but it doesn't state how....
[19-Nov-2008 08:48:17] **kim0> Hi everyone, is it possible to run zenoss on postgres (not mysql) ?
[19-Nov-2008 08:49:41] **nemo_> short answer, no
[19-Nov-2008 08:49:49] **nemo_> mysql is a pre requisite
[19-Nov-2008 09:09:27] **kim0> nemo_ r u a zenoss dev .. i.e. r u sure
[19-Nov-2008 09:25:29] **nemo_> kim0, yup
[19-Nov-2008 09:25:49] **nemo_> ah no not a dev, but i am sure
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[19-Nov-2008 10:26:30] **deviant> nemo_: Do you use LDAP auth? Or have you successfully implemented it before?
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:08] **deviant> Specifically openLDAP
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:26] **nemo_> in zenoss ?
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:29] **deviant> Yes
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:30] **nemo_> i use ldap yes
[19-Nov-2008 10:27:36] **nemo_> against a windows dc
[19-Nov-2008 10:29:48] **deviant> I see. I'm having problems w/ openLDAP. I can't get zenoss to pull the users. I have passwords working but a search in zope for users returns "No users found"
[19-Nov-2008 10:30:32] **deviant> I have tested the raw ldap search string zope appears to be using from a console and I get correct results
[19-Nov-2008 10:38:53] **pens> hey, i'm having a problem with a template in zenoss
[19-Nov-2008 10:39:02] **pens> i'm trying to add a datasource
[19-Nov-2008 10:47:53] **pens> hello?
[19-Nov-2008 10:50:04] **krphop> hi
[19-Nov-2008 10:51:46] **pens> can you help me with my problem?
[19-Nov-2008 10:52:46] **pens> i'm trying to add a datasource to collect filesystem information. i'm using a .sh script, but when i put in ${here/mount}, i get a KeyError: mount error
[19-Nov-2008 11:00:35] **garnica> pens, do you want a performance graph of filesystem ??
[19-Nov-2008 11:04:46] **pens> yeah
[19-Nov-2008 11:05:07] **pens> i actually got this from a VMwareESX zenpack
[19-Nov-2008 11:05:10] **pens> and it doesn't work
[19-Nov-2008 11:07:08] **garnica> is your datasource using snmp ???
[19-Nov-2008 11:07:24] **pens> no, command
[19-Nov-2008 11:08:46] **pens> i put this in the command
[19-Nov-2008 11:08:48] **pens> $$ZENHOME/Products/VMwareEsx/libexec/vmware-esx.sh ${dev/manageIp} ${dev/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/mount}
[19-Nov-2008 11:09:17] **pens> then when i test it against a device, i get a "KeyError: 'mount'" error
[19-Nov-2008 11:09:38] **pens> if i remove the ${here/mount} and put in a known mountpoint, the script works perfectly
[19-Nov-2008 11:12:05] **garnica> mmm ok..... thinking.....
[19-Nov-2008 11:14:28] **pens> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=27945
[19-Nov-2008 11:14:35] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Creating a FileSystem command datasource (at forums.zenoss.com)
[19-Nov-2008 11:14:36] **pens> there's my new forum post, with a little more detail
[19-Nov-2008 11:17:52] **garnica> checking it out
[19-Nov-2008 11:18:21] **pens> thanks
[19-Nov-2008 11:29:19] **garnica> what would be the problem of removing ${here/mount} instead of a known mountpoint ??
[19-Nov-2008 11:30:18] **pens> because i have more than 1 mounpoint to check
[19-Nov-2008 11:34:43] **garnica> say 3 or 4 ?
[19-Nov-2008 11:35:21] **pens> 5 per server
[19-Nov-2008 11:36:14] **garnica> mmm....
[19-Nov-2008 11:37:38] **garnica> I've been looking at the tales expression ${here/mount}... but still cannot find any error.....
[19-Nov-2008 11:47:56] **pens> is there a list of valid TALES expressions?
[19-Nov-2008 11:49:13] **garnica> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/Zope-Book/2_6Edition/ApendixC.stx
[19-Nov-2008 11:49:23] **garnica> according to the zenoss development guide
[19-Nov-2008 11:51:09] **garnica> sorry
[19-Nov-2008 11:51:15] **garnica> this is the good one
[19-Nov-2008 11:51:19] **garnica> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AppendixC.stx
[19-Nov-2008 11:57:16] **pens> is there a way, using some sort of debug thing, to see what i can do with ${here/*}
[19-Nov-2008 11:57:29] **pens> like, I can put {here/id} and it resolves
[19-Nov-2008 11:57:37] **pens> but here/mount doesn't
[19-Nov-2008 12:00:43] **garnica> there is a small explanation on the development guide Appendix B
[19-Nov-2008 12:01:10] **garnica> but seems to me that there is more info in the Zope Book
[19-Nov-2008 12:02:06] **garnica> also try using the zope management interface.... try: http://zenossipaddress:8080/manage
[19-Nov-2008 12:09:41] **pens> that didn't help
[19-Nov-2008 12:09:54] **pens> oh well, i'll just hope someone sees it on the forum
[19-Nov-2008 13:48:45] **Cosmin> hello
[19-Nov-2008 13:48:57] **Cosmin> anyone having experience with creating restricted users?
[19-Nov-2008 13:50:04] **Cosmin> i want to create a user that doesnt have access to view all the devices
[19-Nov-2008 13:50:10] **Cosmin> just to a group of devices
[19-Nov-2008 14:15:42] **magnachef> I've had many issues with locking down users and permissions, etc
[19-Nov-2008 14:28:49] **Cosmin> did you had any success?
[19-Nov-2008 14:37:30] **magnachef> nope
[19-Nov-2008 14:38:13] **magnachef> My issue was more of having users that could acknowlege events etc, but not delete them...so on and so forth
[19-Nov-2008 14:38:42] **magnachef> but you should have some success by restricting them through the zUsers under settings
[19-Nov-2008 14:39:07] **magnachef> that way you can restrict them via System group, or by Device Class
[19-Nov-2008 14:45:37] **kuku> Sorry for the stupid question. How do I get zenoss to discover ip's on the subnet that its on ? I've installed the virtual appliance, but it doesn't list devices it has found.
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:11] **Cosmin> go to networks
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:15] **Cosmin> on the left
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:18] **Cosmin> create a network
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:25] **Cosmin> and then select it
[19-Nov-2008 14:55:33] **Cosmin> and then from the menu do discover
[19-Nov-2008 14:59:00] **kuku> I dont see the button discover
[19-Nov-2008 15:04:22] **kuku> Meaning, there is no button "discover"
[19-Nov-2008 15:04:32] **kuku> aaa, now I see it.
[19-Nov-2008 15:06:38] **kuku> Now its stuck on discoverDevices
[19-Nov-2008 15:08:07] **kuku> Ok. Nows its done. Nice.
[19-Nov-2008 15:42:47] **Cosmin>
[19-Nov-2008 15:42:48] **Cosmin> enjoy
[19-Nov-2008 15:47:14] **kuku> I guess I need to isntall some of these wmi. The zenpacks I install, but they dont show up on the list after. Does that mean its for the wrong version ?
[19-Nov-2008 16:12:04] **kuku> Cosmin: any ideas ?
[19-Nov-2008 16:15:52] **thutchis> Greetings. I am having a strange issue with a stack installer on Fedora Core 9. I am installing it remotely via an SSH session
[19-Nov-2008 16:16:28] **thutchis> The Installing progress bar went to 100% after a few minutes and now its hung and not seeming to be progressing.
[19-Nov-2008 16:17:14] **thutchis> PS and top shows ./zenoss-stack-2.3.0-linux.bin still running
[19-Nov-2008 16:18:16] **thutchis> Anyone else seen this behavior. Its been hung for a couple of hours now
[19-Nov-2008 16:37:44] **garnica> what about terminating ssh install and installing through a remote desktop ??
[19-Nov-2008 16:42:02] **thutchis> I did terminate the install with Ctl-C, but it still won't work even though all the daemons seem to start
[19-Nov-2008 16:42:28] **thutchis> I might try the remote desktop install.
[19-Nov-2008 16:42:46] **thutchis> Do you think there might be an issue with a server already running mysql?
[19-Nov-2008 16:44:30] **nemo2> quite possibly
[19-Nov-2008 16:44:49] **thutchis> hmmm
[19-Nov-2008 16:44:52] **nemo2> afaik its expecting a blank mysql install
[19-Nov-2008 16:45:00] **nemo2> i only used bin once
[19-Nov-2008 16:45:13] **nemo2> but thats how it goes with the rpm version too
[19-Nov-2008 16:56:06] **garnica> turn off mysqld service before launching the stack-installer
[19-Nov-2008 16:56:35] **garnica> I have installed zenoss 2.2.4 stack in fedora 9 without problems
[19-Nov-2008 16:59:31] **thutchis> Hmm... Good idea, I'll give that a try
[19-Nov-2008 17:02:20] **Gecko> I've mannaged to install it on fedora 9 with mysql running...
[19-Nov-2008 17:03:27] **thutchis> Unfortunately I can't stop mysqld without affecting the DNS service. May have to try another server
[19-Nov-2008 17:51:06] **thutchis> I am trying the remote desktop install. It did report a conflict with the existing mysqld on port 3306. So I changed the Zenoss mysqld to port 3307
[19-Nov-2008 17:51:16] **thutchis> We'll see if that works better now
[19-Nov-2008 18:06:04] **thutchis> It works!! Thanks eveyone for the hints. Much appreciated.
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[20-Nov-2008 01:29:00] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[20-Nov-2008 01:30:15] **rhett1> yes
[20-Nov-2008 01:31:37] **raddy> rhett1 : is it possible to monitor remote device IP Services without opening the port for monitored service in the firewall?
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:08] **rhett1> does the remote device have snmp open
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:18] **rhett1> and what os
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:25] **rhett1> for the remote machine
[20-Nov-2008 01:33:48] **raddy> rhett1 : SNMP is open in remote device, both running linux.
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:18] **rhett1> well let me start off by saying i am not a master
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:19] **rhett1> but
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:27] **rhett1> you wont be able to do a port monitor
[20-Nov-2008 01:34:33] **rhett1> but you can do a service
[20-Nov-2008 01:35:05] **raddy> rhett1 : how, Service Monitoring involves port monitoring too, no?
[20-Nov-2008 01:37:10] **rhett1> i have a few processes being monitored w/o ports
[20-Nov-2008 01:37:21] **rhett1> like webmin but no port 10000 monitored
[20-Nov-2008 01:37:33] **rhett1> but im not a pro
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:01] **raddy> rhett1 : that is Process monitoring. am i right?
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:11] **rhett1> i was trying to pull up my server that i have the info on but i cant pull it up i thinkk do to the fires out here
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:24] **rhett1> yes
[20-Nov-2008 01:38:34] **rhett1> waht are you trying to accmplish
[20-Nov-2008 01:40:51] **raddy> rhett1 : Basically i want to monitor Tomcat, when i monitor via process, it is not that perfect, that is why
[20-Nov-2008 01:41:51] **rhett1> what about tomcat exactly. process memory cpu utilization? or something more specific
[20-Nov-2008 01:42:24] **raddy> rhett1 : uptime
[20-Nov-2008 01:43:58] **rhett1> hm
[20-Nov-2008 01:45:02] **raddy> rhett1 : thank you for helping. bye
[20-Nov-2008 01:45:05] **rhett1> i dont know if zenoss will do that out of the box
[20-Nov-2008 01:45:14] **rhett1> monit i think does though
[20-Nov-2008 03:31:07] **Gecko> Anyone running the fping zenpack?
[20-Nov-2008 08:33:06] **cgibbons> howdy
[20-Nov-2008 09:17:39] **jb> oops
[20-Nov-2008 09:17:45] **jb> jmp, you here by chance?
[20-Nov-2008 10:03:27] **perr0> when we ask questions how do we address the devs?
[20-Nov-2008 10:03:49] **jb> just ask a question
[20-Nov-2008 10:03:51] **jb> they aren't here yet though
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:00] **perr0> they are late
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:09] **jb> theres mray..
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:15] **jb> hi
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:39] **mrayzenoss> I'm here
[20-Nov-2008 10:04:44] **mrayzenoss> I was just being shy
[20-Nov-2008 10:05:58] **mrayzenoss> So we should be joined by ECN today, but I'm ready for questions
[20-Nov-2008 10:06:22] **cgibbons> crickets
[20-Nov-2008 10:06:46] **mrayzenoss> cgibbons can answer your WMI questions
[20-Nov-2008 10:06:48] **jb> mray, my question is referring to a thread I have in the zenoss-dev forums/list regarding graphing the change in a datasource(integer) from poll to poll specifically using winperf..
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:00] **jb> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8085
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:09] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Graphing Averages (Day/Week/Month) (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:28] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I remember asking you to bring it up there. Still no progress?
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:39] **jb> well, it seems like I have made some progress using a regular SNMP datasource
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:42] **jb> but not using WinPerf
[20-Nov-2008 10:07:48] **jb> the numbers are just way off
[20-Nov-2008 10:08:30] **cgibbons> was that using the zenpack in enterprise that does winperf or the community one, jb?
[20-Nov-2008 10:08:37] **jb> im using enterprise..
[20-Nov-2008 10:08:50] **cgibbons> k, and with what version? (sorry if this is in the thread, multi-tasking)
[20-Nov-2008 10:09:35] **jb> 2.2.4
[20-Nov-2008 10:09:37] **perr0> mrayzenoss: to start off I have a simple question. I installed zenoss on a box which **was** also being used a syslog server. We learned that this is no fun especially when we have thousands of syslog messages coming through. Is there a way to disable this in zenoss but then would defeat one of the purposes.
[20-Nov-2008 10:10:49] **jb> cgibbons: the thread has a screenshot of the graph, and of the graph defintino
[20-Nov-2008 10:11:31] **cgibbons> k. i'm not sure about the rrd stuff myself, but i can throw out some info on the winperf info. in 2.2.4 and earlier collection was based upon the typeperf utility (which you can manually run on the windows server). in 2.3.x it's based upon direct polling of the data, so we've been working hard on making sure the data is accurate. it should also be accurate with typeperf as well but i'm not...
[20-Nov-2008 10:11:32] **cgibbons> ...sure if that utility does its own averaging.
[20-Nov-2008 10:11:47] **mrayzenoss> perr0: what's the issue specifically? That zensyslog is interfering with syslog?
[20-Nov-2008 10:12:03] **cgibbons> lemme look closer @ the thread
[20-Nov-2008 10:12:09] **mrayzenoss> perr0: or that performance sucks?
[20-Nov-2008 10:12:37] **__pok> goodday
[20-Nov-2008 10:13:01] **perr0> the perfomance is degraded badly so we are in the process of setting up syslog on another box
[20-Nov-2008 10:13:47] **jb> cgibbons: when using the "Test" function on the datasource, it is accurate.. but somehow by the time it gets to the graph, its not.. the goal here is basically take the difference between POLL A and POLL B to get the change..
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:01] **cgibbons> hey kells
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:10] **cgibbons> okay, cool. the test uses that typedef utility directly so that's a good sign.
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:21] **kells> Hey Chad!
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:25] **mrayzenoss> perr0: so the bottleneck for syslog events is probably the mysql database
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:52] **mrayzenoss> perr0: unless it's just a slow/low RAM system
[20-Nov-2008 10:14:58] **kells> Hmmm... I don't think the mysqltuner reference made it into the Admin Guide yet.
[20-Nov-2008 10:15:16] **mrayzenoss> kells: that's where I was headed
[20-Nov-2008 10:15:54] **mrayzenoss> perr0: There's a tool called mysqltuner (http://wiki.mysqltuner.com/MySQLTuner) that tells you how to tweak your mysql instance to get better performance
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:02] **adytum-bot> Title: MySQLTuner - MySQLTuner (at wiki.mysqltuner.com)
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:19] **perr0> mrayzenoss: thank you, I did that already but it didn
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:38] **perr0> t help much, at this point we are moving on to have syslog on another box
[20-Nov-2008 10:16:59] **jb> this has to be somethign simple.
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:05] **cgibbons> quite likely
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:05] **jb> since it works with snmp datasources
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:33] **jb> is winperf returning multiple values per poll?
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:35] **jb> or just oen
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:38] **mrayzenoss> hmmm... could you open a ticket as an enhancement? Outline what you did and maybe we can improve syslog processing performance at some point
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:47] **cgibbons> hurm you know I think it returns multiple ones
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:53] **jb> that could be the problem
[20-Nov-2008 10:17:58] **jb> i know it returns multiple when using "Test"
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:10] **jb> if its returning multiple, the values will be all messed up
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:21] **cgibbons> yeah. can you run zenwinperf from the commannd line to see what kind of output you get there?
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:34] **jb> let me see if I can parse thru that again.
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:35] **jb> sec
[20-Nov-2008 10:18:51] **cgibbons> 2.3.1 should be out in a couple of days hopefully
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:34] **perr0> mrayzenoss: where you talking to me about syslog?
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:43] **mrayzenoss> perr0: yes please
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:50] **jb> i'll probably upgrade when 2.3.1 comes out
[20-Nov-2008 10:19:54] **perr0> that would actually be great, I will do that cause it really hurts
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:11] **jb> cgibbons: should zenwinperf ever actually complete?
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:15] **cgibbons> the winperf stuff is completely different, and a should be a whole lot better. the internals are different so it scales better, etc.
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:20] **jb> it seems to just sit indefintely
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:23] **mrayzenoss> perr0: so you're doing what order of magnatude? tens a second? hundreds?
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:38] **cgibbons> depends upon how you run it. zenwinperf run -v10 -d blahblah; would be ideal, no -c flag.
[20-Nov-2008 10:20:45] **jb> thats what I'm doing..
[20-Nov-2008 10:21:06] **perr0> mrayzenoss: syslog messages? probably hundreds
[20-Nov-2008 10:21:24] **mrayzenoss> yeah, we probably have some work to do there, sorry
[20-Nov-2008 10:21:37] **jb> cgibbons: sort of hard to understand the output.. i don't see actual values in the logs
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:00] **cgibbons> shoot. i didn't work with the older version much so i don't know off the top of my head how it works. i was hoping it would dump the typeperf output.
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:26] **garnica> wow..... I am still using 2.1.3 'cause I am still planning upgrade to 2.3... any suggestion ??
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:36] **jb> heh.. prepare for the worst.
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:44] **mrayzenoss> garnica: The upgrade path is 2.1.3->2.2.4->2.3
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:48] **perr0> mrayzenoss: np, I am so thankful for zenoss. You guys do great work
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:54] **__pok> cgibbons: so you're saying I could just as well just wait a few days instead of upgrading from 2.2.4 to 2.3.0 today?
[20-Nov-2008 10:22:55] **mrayzenoss> perr0: Thanks!
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:24] **garnica> mrayzenoss, ok I''ll check it out
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:26] **cgibbons> 2.3.1 is just the enterprise release of 2.3.0, with a few fixes in the enterprise zenpacks over 2.3.0
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:29] **jb> cgibbons: if winperf is returning multiple values, then I think this will screw everything up..
[20-Nov-2008 10:23:54] **perr0> if you guys had a wish list of redbull or something I'd send you some
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:24] **cgibbons> yeah. i think ecn will know for sure if he wakes up
let me see if i've got a 2.2.4 instance somewhere to look[20-Nov-2008 10:24:31] **ericnewton> huh, wha?
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:32] **jb> ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:41] **jb> ecn.. we are working on http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8085
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:43] **mrayzenoss> perr0: maybe we can catch up at a conference or something.
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Graphing Averages (Day/Week/Month) (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Nov-2008 10:24:52] **jb> ecn: using 2.2.4 enterprise/winperf
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:11] **garnica> what is the recommended os for running zenoss ?? RHEL 5 ?? Cent OS ?? Fedora ??
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:24] **jb> garnica: rhel/cent will be fine..
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:28] **jb> we are running cent5.2/x64 here
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:30] **mrayzenoss> garnica: Most of our enterprise customers use rhel/centos
[20-Nov-2008 10:25:57] **cgibbons> ecn: we're trying to figure out if the old winperf collector maybe returned multiple values at once?
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:02] **garnica> ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:13] **ericnewton> define "returned"
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:37] **jb> when zenwinperf queries a winperf datasource, is it returning a single value?
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:47] **jb> i'm trying to graph the difference between two polls
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:55] **jb> it works fine with SNMP datasources, but not winperf
[20-Nov-2008 10:26:59] **ericnewton> yes, a single value
[20-Nov-2008 10:27:13] **jb> hm, well then I have no idea where its getting these numbers
[20-Nov-2008 10:27:49] **ericnewton> is it the case that windows is turning your counter into a gauge value? I don't think I understand what the problem is
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:10] **jb> the problem is outlined with a screenshot in that thread
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:28] **jb> the graph is showing a very large number that doesn't make sense
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:36] **jb> larger than the actual value of the counter
[20-Nov-2008 10:28:51] **jb> for example.. the datasource is returning 5801588
[20-Nov-2008 10:29:12] **jb> hm
[20-Nov-2008 10:29:13] **jb> Unable to retrieve zenwinperf counter \IMSS(IMSS)\Connections denied by NRS for rgxxcrptmgw01.corp.follett.com
[20-Nov-2008 10:29:25] **jb> wonder why that is.. it works fine when I hit "Test"
[20-Nov-2008 10:34:24] **jb> im testing with a new winperf datasource now
[20-Nov-2008 10:34:31] **ericnewton> jb: is it possible that the rrd file was created before with the wrong spec?
[20-Nov-2008 10:34:53] **jb> ericnew: i created a new graph definition to test that..
[20-Nov-2008 10:35:08] **jb> im going to see what pops up in this new graph/datasource as soon as it starts to populate
[20-Nov-2008 10:35:10] **ericnewton> with a new datapoint name?
[20-Nov-2008 10:35:26] **jb> hm, good point.. I deleted the datapoint and recreated it, but I think I used the same name.
[20-Nov-2008 10:37:40] **jb> I'll recreate it now.
[20-Nov-2008 10:38:06] **kells> Looking for some feedback on the Dev Guide, specifically the 2.3 version. Thoughts?
[20-Nov-2008 10:39:33] **ericnewton> cool... ian just twittered that Zenoss is #1 at SourceForge
[20-Nov-2008 10:39:46] **mrayzenoss> ericnewton: That's just currently for the day
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:00] **jb> kells: we need details on how to create custom modelers!
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:16] **jb> how to easily fill in values such as "Serial Number, HW Mftg, etc"
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:17] **perr0> mrayzenoss: I have to have zenoss pro or enterprise before I can raise a ticket?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:22] **kells> So the section on that in the guide didn't help?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:24] **ericnewton> mray: right... still cool
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:31] **jb> it's just a placeholder right now
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:32] **jb> I think?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:35] **jb> let me doublel check.
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:39] **kells> In 2.3.1?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:45] **jb> ooh, i havent seen 2.3.1
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:46] **jb> sorry
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:47] **mrayzenoss> perr0: only for support. You can open a defect http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:47] **kells> Sorry, in the 2.3 Dev Guide?
[20-Nov-2008 10:40:56] **jb> let me grab it.
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:00] **mrayzenoss> perr0: no guarantees that it will get worked on immediately, but at least it will be under consideration and get reviewed. I'm doing a little syslog and not seeing issues, but I don't know about other users and their scalability
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:07] **kells> There might be a refresh of the Dev Guide in both PDF and HTML when 2.3.2 comes out. The Dcobook source is there (sans XSL
) so it can be created for the impatient. [20-Nov-2008 10:42:29] **jb> this is in the dev guide, right?
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:33] **jb> (the modeler stuff)
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:37] **ericnewton> perr0: you are having issues with syslog scalability with a hundred messages per second?
[20-Nov-2008 10:42:53] **kells> In the last week or so there's been further doc updates with typo fixes, diagrams and (today) some more stuff that will be coming up in 2.4
[20-Nov-2008 10:43:38] **kells> Section 10: Adding a new Device Type
[20-Nov-2008 10:43:42] **perr0> ericnewton: yes, the box is down right now so I can't tell you the exact number of messages. I know by the days end, the log is almost 10 gigs
[20-Nov-2008 10:43:58] **jb> chapter 10?
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:03] **kells> There's also two new sections: Chapter 9 Zenoss Daemons and Chapter 10: Add a Performance Daemon
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:12] **perr0> not 100% sure at this time
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:25] **jb> ah god it.
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:26] **jb> got
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:43] **ericnewton> perr0: ok... interesting... the other event collectors handle up to 2K events/sec
[20-Nov-2008 10:44:45] **jb> kells: I'll take a look at that.. thanks.
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:02] **jb> oh nice! AIX examples.
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:04] **ericnewton> perr0: usually on some fast hardware (like the Zenoss large appliance)
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:04] **pjz> Howdy, I just set up Zenoss and am getting a ton of false alarms because some of the machines I'm monitoring are virtual and so a bit slow to respond... how do I up the timeout threshold ?
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:04] **kells> Just to warn you that the formatting for the Dev Guide is still absolutely terrible.
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:47] **kells> I should also admit that I haven't updated the AIX zenpack even though people have contributed bugfixes etc. Doh!
[20-Nov-2008 10:45:52] **ericnewton> pjz: SNMP timeouts?
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:01] **pjz> ericnewton: yes
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:09] **ericnewton> there's a zProperty for that
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:15] **pjz> Message:
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:15] **pjz> IP Service smtp TIMEOUT waiting for '220'
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:18] **tr_> How does zenoss map an SNMP trap to a given EventClass? I have a problem with a trap being identified with an invalid EventClass
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:39] **pjz> okay, how do I find it?
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:50] **jb> ok, come on graphs.
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:51] **perr0> mrayzenoss: I don't expect this to get worked on right away. I am happy with moving zenoss to a different box. We tried doing a few steps such as the mysql tuner script, we disabled rdns in syslog, but to no avail the .python.bin was eating up all the CPU
[20-Nov-2008 10:46:58] **pjz> ericnewton: is that zCommandTimeout?
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:16] **ericnewton> zSnmpTimeout
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:45] **jb> kells: so is there planned native AIX support since the documentation uses it?
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:49] **mrayzenoss> perr0: Yeah, a ticket will at least get it on our radar, maybe ericnewton will check it out in his free time
[20-Nov-2008 10:47:53] **jb> that would be great
[20-Nov-2008 10:48:21] **ericnewton> pjz: the default is 2.5 seconds
[20-Nov-2008 10:48:49] **pjz> ericnewton: yeah, I upped that to 5
[20-Nov-2008 10:48:55] **kells> jb: In the 2.4 release there is a plan to add more support for the Big 3 Unices
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:11] **jb> big 3 unices?
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:15] **jb> ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:17] **jb> good
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:18] **kells> Solaris, AIX, HPUX
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:23] **perr0> I hate to pest, but I am on the link you provided, can't login. I would hate to let this go and not provide good information on this concern
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:25] **jb> cause my AIX is a hackjob right now
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:29] **jb> using net-snmp and aix's snmpd
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:30] **ericnewton> perr0: it would be nice to know which python program was the problem child: zenhub or zensyslog
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:37] **jb> i'l love to redo it
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:40] **jb> i'd
[20-Nov-2008 10:49:52] **kells> AIX's snmpd is, errmmm, a little interesting to deal with at times.
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:13] **jb> heh yes.
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:15] **jb> to say the least
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:16] **mrayzenoss> perr0: username zenoss
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:21] **kells> Personally, I've had a few issues with it going down, but it may have been my environment.
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:27] **jb> which is why I use net-snmp and proxy certain mib's to it
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:31] **jb> but I don't like having to do that
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:39] **pjz> ericnewton: oh, oop, okay, so I'm also getting SMTP timeouts waiting for a 220 response
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:43] **mrayzenoss> perr0: password zenoss
[20-Nov-2008 10:50:55] **kells> I haven't tried the AIX 6.1 series snmpd though, so maybe that's better.
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:01] **jb> kells: so the AIX implementation would use strictly AIX's snmpd, no net-snmp?
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:03] **kells> jb: Are you using VIO servers?
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:03] **jb> i haven't either..
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:06] **jb> yesd
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:10] **ericnewton> perr0: zenhub scalability is improved in 2.3.1
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:11] **perr0> mrayzenoss: thank you much
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:13] **jb> not monitoring them currently though
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:15] **jb> but I would love to.
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:47] **ericnewton> pjz: is this a command test (a nagios style plugin?)
[20-Nov-2008 10:51:50] **kells> They're running the native AIX snmpd, so the ZenPack.community.AIX zenpack might help.
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:20] **jb> kells: also using some custom scripts to get the serial number/AIX version.. so please keep this in mind when developing native support.. these are important
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:20] **pjz> ericnewton: uhh... it's whatever default smtp monitoring shows up when you tell zenoss something is a linux host
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:27] **kells> The native AIX, Solaris, HPUX support is geared towards SSH-modeling, not SNMP. (Only so many hours in a day.
)[20-Nov-2008 10:52:29] **jb> piping them in via net-snmp
[20-Nov-2008 10:52:41] **jb> ah ok
[20-Nov-2008 10:53:32] **kells> serial #, AIX version is gathered by the community.AIX zenpack. Getting it to work for some environments may be a challenge sometimes, though.
[20-Nov-2008 10:53:45] **jb> yeah i helped with that modeler code
[20-Nov-2008 10:54:16] **kells> "Implementation is trivial" is a phrase that *seems* helpful, but...
[20-Nov-2008 10:54:30] **kells> jb: Ahh, I *thought* that might have been you. Thanks!
[20-Nov-2008 10:54:42] **jb> oh hold up
[20-Nov-2008 10:55:05] **jb> are you kpg123?
[20-Nov-2008 10:55:25] **pjz> ericnewton: or, hrm, maybe I did set this up. It's not a nagios test, it's /IpService/Privileged/smtp
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:12] **jb> kpg123: I have been thinking about wiping my existing AIX/net-snmp/snmpd plan and trying the zenpack..
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:17] **jb> is it pretty much fully functional at this point?
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:24] **ericnewton> pjz: right, I'm just trying to figure out the answer
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:31] **jb> err. kells
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:33] **jb> sorry
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:34] **atrawog> jb: Writing an AIX modeler is pretty easy, what's tough is that there isn't support for volume group / logical volume / file system relationships in Zenoss.
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:52] **jb> yeah
[20-Nov-2008 10:56:57] **kells> jb: Since I joined Zenoss, I've switched to kells
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:06] **jb> kells: I wasn't aware you had joined zenoss
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:09] **jb> congrats
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:25] **kells> Thanks! It's been very fun! Lots of work, but very fun too!
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:29] **jb> kells: are you based out on anapolis?
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:32] **jb> or remote?
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:36] **kells> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
[20-Nov-2008 10:57:56] **jb> ah ok.. i'll be at zen offices in february, and I'd love to try and nail some of this AIX stuff out
[20-Nov-2008 10:58:10] **jb> atrawog: yeah, that would be a big project too.. at least for me.
[20-Nov-2008 10:58:37] **kells> atrawog: Unfortuntaely, the storage stuff is probably out of scope for the moment in 2.4. (Only so many hours in the day.
)[20-Nov-2008 10:58:54] **jb> ericnewton/cgibbons: works like a charm now.. used different datasource names!
[20-Nov-2008 10:59:13] **mrayzenoss> jb: awesome, could you followup on your forum thread with the fix?
[20-Nov-2008 10:59:17] **perr0> another quick question, how often are the install guides updated? Is the forum thought of the aid for users with their installation questions?
[20-Nov-2008 10:59:18] **jb> yep.
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:06] **mrayzenoss> perr0: The install guides get revved every time there's a new release and there's something new. So 2.3 added a bunch of stuff, and 2.3.2 will have the OSX stuff integrated into it
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:09] **ericnewton> pjz: zStatusConnectTimeout
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:34] **mrayzenoss> perr0: And yes, the forums are for Core support, with the IRC sessions every 2 weeks
[20-Nov-2008 11:00:58] **kells> Please take any comments about the 2.4 directions as being directions (of course) and not contractually binding etc
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:31] **jb> sure
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:39] **jb> kells: so as far as the AIX zenpack goes
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:41] **kells> Matt Ray's working on the full list
[20-Nov-2008 11:01:44] **jb> would you say its production-ready?
[20-Nov-2008 11:02:16] **jb> as far as monitoring ethernet interfaces, filesystems (not lvm), ip services/os processes, cpu/memory info, and perf graphs?
[20-Nov-2008 11:02:57] **jb> kells: also I privmsged you sometime ago about TSM.. are you currently doing anythign with TSM in zen?
[20-Nov-2008 11:03:25] **kells> I really hesitate to say that because I haven't put in some patches I've received from people and I haven't had an opportunity to fully exercise a lot of different things (ie it needs some TLC). I would think that it might be worth a try to see (in a limited deployment) how well it works for you.
[20-Nov-2008 11:03:41] **jb> sure
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:02] **perr0> good to know. Well, I just want to say thanks again to Eric and mrayzenoss for the great work. Cheers!
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:05] **kells> There are currently no plans for a TSM ZenPack. It needs some vocal enterprise supporters.
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:41] **kells> My focus during this release is simply bugfixes -- which is actually kinda fun and gets me to explore more of the codebase.
[20-Nov-2008 11:04:53] **jb> sure
[20-Nov-2008 11:05:09] **pjz> ericnewton: thanks@
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:12] **pjz> ericnewton: okay, last one: I'm getting: threshold of CPU Utilization not met: current value 0.12 ; it's coming from Perf/CPU but I can't find where to change that threshold
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:43] **ericnewton> go to that device
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:47] **jb> i think thats probably on the /Devices/Server template?
[20-Nov-2008 11:06:52] **kells> jb: I would love to create a TSM zenpack, but there's 250+ tickets waiting for me at the moment.
And after the 2.4 release it will probably be a lot easier to do. Also, when TSM 6x comes out using the DB2 backend, that will also make things much easier to deal with at that point.[20-Nov-2008 11:06:59] **ericnewton> pull the menu, and find "Templates
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:16] **jb> kells: awesome.. we are a TSM on AIX shop..
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:16] **kells> ie better ODBC support
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:29] **jb> i wonder if the windows version of TSM provides perfmon counters
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:36] **pjz> ericnewton: okay, found it, and /Devices/Server template
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:44] **kells> I'm pretty sure that it does
[20-Nov-2008 11:07:59] **kells> perfmon counters, that is
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:02] **jb> yeah
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:18] **ericnewton> pjz: all set then?
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:26] **jb> is TSM info available via snmp in AIX?
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:31] **kells> IIRC, Windows has been the primary platform for development of TSM since about the 4.x series.
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:39] **mrayzenoss> jb: If you really need a TSM ZenPack, you could probably contact Client Services and they'd work on it
[20-Nov-2008 11:08:49] **jb> ok
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:15] **kells> jb: There's some interesting things about the TSM SNMP support especially under AIX.
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:22] **jb> oh yeah?
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:30] **pjz> ericnewton: yah, that's the right place, I see
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:32] **pjz> ericnewton: thanks muchly
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:51] **kells> a) the variables avaiable aren't the ones that I want (that's probably always the case)
[20-Nov-2008 11:09:56] **mrayzenoss> Unless there's any more questions, I'm gonna let ericnewton off the hook to get back to work. kells and cgibbons were volunteers
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:06] **pjz> ericnewton: what's the 'Escalate count' ? does it have to exceed the threshold that many times before it warns?
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:37] * pjz apologizes for monopolizing ericnewton's time
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:40] **ericnewton> pjz: it just raises the priority by one after that many times
[20-Nov-2008 11:10:40] **kells> b) the "run an arbitrary command and get back the results" part seems useful, but doesn't seem to be that much better that just running the command through dsmc
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:04] **kells> c) AIX snmp subagent -- need I say any more?
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:08] **jb> no.
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:10] **jb>
)[20-Nov-2008 11:11:36] **pjz> ericnewton: priority or severity?
[20-Nov-2008 11:11:41] **ericnewton> severity
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:09] **pjz> got it! Thanks!
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:26] **Freezerburn> omg guys I just got zenoss up
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:33] **Freezerburn> whoooo! party time
[20-Nov-2008 11:12:35] **mrayzenoss> Freezerburn: congrats
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:12] **mrayzenoss> I've got another meeting I have to head off to, so I'm out of here. ericnewton and kells are on their own now
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:31] **kells> Doh! Have fun, matt!
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:33] **mrayzenoss> Thanks everybody
[20-Nov-2008 11:13:54] **ericnewton> yes, I have a meeting (and lunch) to get to, too
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:18] **ericnewton> see you in the forums!
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:50] **kells> It's probably time for me to head back to the bugs, too!
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:57] **jb> alrighty
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:58] **kells> Thanks jb, atrawog!
[20-Nov-2008 11:14:59] **jb> thanks guys.
[20-Nov-2008 11:15:11] **atrawog> goodby
[20-Nov-2008 11:15:23] **jb> atrawog, so are you using the aix zenpack?
[20-Nov-2008 11:16:03] **atrawog> Yes, with some ugly modifications.
[20-Nov-2008 11:16:33] **jb> anything not working for you?
[20-Nov-2008 11:17:27] **atrawog> We had to switch to ssh modeling (snmp doesn't work well on hacmp clusters).
[20-Nov-2008 11:17:45] **jb> hm, so you are modeling * over ssh?
[20-Nov-2008 11:17:56] **pjz> cool, the fixe eric gave me should cut down on the pile of zenoss email that I get every morning
[20-Nov-2008 11:19:35] **atrawog> Currently it's mixed. CPU + Hardware modelling + monitoring is done via SNMP and filesystems are monitored via ssh,
[20-Nov-2008 11:19:54] **jb> nice
[20-Nov-2008 11:20:24] **jb> im going to give it a try
[20-Nov-2008 11:20:31] **jb> the whole net-snmp thing is just too messy
[20-Nov-2008 11:21:26] **atrawog> My ugly addition is to add a zProperty called zVGonly to allow to model only filesytem on a certain VG.
[20-Nov-2008 11:21:33] **jb> ah ok
[20-Nov-2008 11:22:08] **pjz> someone needs to make a device class for openWRT routers
[20-Nov-2008 11:22:29] **pjz> their snmp seems to be a little different since I think it's busybox instead of net-snmp
[20-Nov-2008 11:23:25] **pjz> oh, nevermind, i take it back, it is netsnmp
[20-Nov-2008 11:24:11] **atrawog> Problem we had, was that filesystem ended up having different SNMP indexes after a cluster take over. SSH takes a lot more CPU cycles, but tends to be more robust than SNMP.
[20-Nov-2008 11:25:59] **pjz> atrawog: yeah,I ended up doing something similar with nagios at one point ; ended up writing kind of an snmp-analogue status reporting script for the remote box that a custom thingy would take apart and interpret locally
[20-Nov-2008 11:26:41] **pjz> atrawog: nice thing was that nagios was smart enough to cache so I could have a bunch of things claim to execute that if they needed it, but it would only happen once really
[20-Nov-2008 11:28:06] **atrawog> Our HACMP cluster have up to 100 filesystem split over two nodes and up to six resource groups with extra IPs. So without modifications you end up seeing 100 filessystem eight times .
[20-Nov-2008 11:28:30] **jb> heh
[20-Nov-2008 11:28:31] **jb> yeah
[20-Nov-2008 11:30:58] **atrawog> pjz:Zenoss is smart enough open one ssh session per device, but you still end up doing dozend of 'df -h | grep something'.
[20-Nov-2008 11:35:11] **pjz> atrawog: ick. Can you somehow just do a 'df' and get zenoss (or something higher up the chain) to do the grepping?
[20-Nov-2008 11:38:09] **atrawog> pjz:I'm thinking about doing something like that in the future. But haven't found an easy way to do it.
[20-Nov-2008 13:36:22] **zenChild> Anyone out there have luck creating Synthetic Transactions for OWA?
[20-Nov-2008 14:08:00] **jb> ive been meaning to give that a try..
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[21-Nov-2008 08:31:08] **MAlexHerron> is there anyone active here right now?
[21-Nov-2008 08:31:29] **MAlexHerron> im having sort of a meltdown while upgrading from 2.2.0 to 2.3
[21-Nov-2008 08:31:33] **MAlexHerron> with the stack install
[21-Nov-2008 08:31:45] **MAlexHerron> using zenbackup, zenrestore, and zenmigrate
[21-Nov-2008 08:32:30] **MAlexHerron> zeoctl did not start at first...and now there seems to be an issue starting mysql with ZENHOME/mysql/scripts/ctl.sh
[21-Nov-2008 08:32:35] **MAlexHerron> not a good morning
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:14] **flosoft> hi
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:37] **flosoft> I had some questions about Zenoss
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:44] **flosoft> I come from Nagios, and wanted to ask. I want to ping hosts, and then check http or xmpp
[21-Nov-2008 09:20:49] **flosoft> and then notify on fault different groups
[21-Nov-2008 09:21:05] **flosoft> when I add a new server it asks me for Systems and Groups
[21-Nov-2008 09:21:09] **flosoft> what is the difference?
[21-Nov-2008 09:21:24] **flosoft> where can I create the templates for the services?
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:18] **MAlexHerron> you may want to look into the http monitor zenpack
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:22] **flosoft> right
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:35] **flosoft> I looked at the HowTo, but that failed completely
[21-Nov-2008 09:22:43] **flosoft> I ended up with a machine that I can't find anywhere
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:04] **MAlexHerron> have you tried adding the same IP again? it will tell you if that IP is found on an existing device
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:26] **flosoft> hmm
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:40] **flosoft> ok, let's say I want to monitor an XMPP server
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:46] **flosoft> I want to monitor ping and XMPP
[21-Nov-2008 09:25:51] **flosoft> I installed the zenpack
[21-Nov-2008 09:26:25] **flosoft> so where do I create a monitoring template?
[21-Nov-2008 09:30:20] **MAlexHerron> honestly, no idea... i have not created templlates for my installation... if you want to talk writing python in the transforms for your traps... i can help ya... but im currently dealing with an upgrade causing a meltdown
[21-Nov-2008 09:30:22] **MAlexHerron> what a day
[21-Nov-2008 09:31:01] **flosoft>
[21-Nov-2008 09:31:04] **flosoft> good luck with that
[21-Nov-2008 09:38:04] **jb> upgrade from what to what?
[21-Nov-2008 10:34:46] **zenChild> I am running 2.2.4 and noticed that in the ethernetCsmacd template the label for ifInOctets is set to Outbound and the label for ifoutOctets is set to Inbound. Is this consistent with what other people are seeing and is it a know bug?
[21-Nov-2008 21:24:40] **MAlexHerron> anybody awake?
[21-Nov-2008 21:24:53] **MAlexHerron> that knows how to stop all snmp polling
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[22-Nov-2008 12:21:38] **MAlexHerron> anyone alive here?
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[24-Nov-2008 07:06:12] **Weetos> Hi there
[24-Nov-2008 07:58:54] **goschtl> Hi is there a quick start guide for zenoss available?
[24-Nov-2008 08:08:49] **dethstar> goschtl, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[24-Nov-2008 08:08:57] **adytum-bot^> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:05] **Cosmin> hello
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:12] **Cosmin> i have a question about enterprise
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:19] **Cosmin> i currently have core
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:34] **Cosmin> and i wasnt to know if i update if i can keep my configs
[24-Nov-2008 08:10:40] **Cosmin> or i need to start from 0
[24-Nov-2008 08:17:24] **Cosmin> anyone?
[24-Nov-2008 08:29:43] **dethstar> Cosmin, i have no idea, I've only run the core ver.
[24-Nov-2008 08:38:20] **Cosmin> ok
[24-Nov-2008 08:57:13] **breun> I'd like to check for 200 OK messages when monitoring apache http and https
[24-Nov-2008 08:57:29] **breun> the IpServices in Zenoss don't seem to do that
[24-Nov-2008 08:57:58] **breun> the docs have an example using the nagios check_http plugin to check for specific content on a page: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch15s02.html
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:10] **breun> I only need the 200 OK check really
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:12] **adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:35] **breun> the docs tell me to create a new device, without snmp
[24-Nov-2008 08:58:57] **breun> do I really need to do that or can I add the check_http plugin to an existing device that is already monitored using snmp?
[24-Nov-2008 09:59:20] **CamargoBP_> Good day! Can zenoss check an email box and parse it's content to make alerts?
[24-Nov-2008 10:15:50] **garnica> that's a good idea CamargoBP_
[24-Nov-2008 11:17:59] **zenChild> Anyone see this after upgrading to 2.3.1? I have confirmed that zenhub is indeed running.
[24-Nov-2008 11:17:59] **zenChild> "Timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running?"
[24-Nov-2008 11:36:43] **Brixius> Hello, I'm having a problem modeling a device, zenmodel is giving me a error dump on IpUtil.py line 129, in maskToBits Invalid Literal for int(): None
[24-Nov-2008 11:37:16] **Brixius> I'm running Core 2.3.0
[24-Nov-2008 11:41:30] **Brixius> Anyone there?
[24-Nov-2008 15:46:09] **Brixius> Must be a dead channel, I've been in here for 5 hrs and nobody but me has said anything.
[24-Nov-2008 15:46:23] **Brixius> I think I hear an echo....
[24-Nov-2008 16:10:25] **magnachef> echo
[24-Nov-2008 16:10:30] **magnachef> echo
[24-Nov-2008 16:10:45] **magnachef> the forums are usually more active
[24-Nov-2008 16:11:13] **magnachef> then again, it is a holiday week (in the US)
[24-Nov-2008 16:14:38] **huggie> Heh, not sure I've seen this channel busy.
[24-Nov-2008 16:14:54] **huggie> Though there was a day when the developers were here recently I think.
[24-Nov-2008 16:15:02] **huggie> There doesn't seem to be much zenoss community.
[24-Nov-2008 16:15:19] **magnachef> there is, most of them congregate in the forums though
[24-Nov-2008 17:46:40] **jake_> Hey guys, In the dashboard I want to add the Locations column. Does any1 know of an easy way to do this ?
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[24-Nov-2008 18:05:03] **garnica> jake_: have you tried to add a portlet already ?
[24-Nov-2008 18:06:38] **notjake> garnica, I actually wanted to do it within the Device List template so it would be "ID, IP, Class, Location, event Summary"
[24-Nov-2008 18:06:54] **notjake> instead of IP, IP Class, Prod State, Event Summary
[24-Nov-2008 18:06:59] **notjake> err s/IP/ID
[24-Nov-2008 18:07:33] **notjake> I edited a few page templates, Although I can't get it to reflect my changes at all
[24-Nov-2008 18:08:31] **garnica> ok... so you want to add "Location" field in the device list...
[24-Nov-2008 18:08:40] **garnica> not in the dashboard
[24-Nov-2008 18:09:48] **notjake> garnica: lol, Sorry yes. Brain isnt functioning properly
[24-Nov-2008 18:10:19] **garnica> no problem.....
[24-Nov-2008 18:11:23] **garnica> I don't know.... but feel like is possible.... looking for it in development guide
[24-Nov-2008 18:15:56] **notjake> Yeah, I couldnt see anything in there about it. But even editing page templates and stuff the changes never showed up... Is there a debug mode I can put it into within the web interface ?
[24-Nov-2008 18:19:45] **garnica> not sure about a debugging mode in the web interface....
[24-Nov-2008 18:20:12] **garnica> have you tried using the zope management interface ?
[24-Nov-2008 18:21:17] **garnica> just add 'manage' to your zenoss url like: "http://myzenoss:8080/manage"
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[25-Nov-2008 08:36:11] **NoxIn-> hum ... the polling of the ipservices may cause some problems on mysql hosts (if the template mysql is not applied) ... after a moment the mysql blacklist the IP address : "ERROR 1129 (00000): Host '*****' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts'"
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[25-Nov-2008 09:14:40] **ke4qqq> hey guys - this is more of a stupid snmp question than anything - but I am trying to monitor printer supplies - so some are marked in units and others in percent..... however of the 6 supplies that I monitor, 5 return the value -3 and one returns a sane number. thoughts on that?
[25-Nov-2008 10:35:25] **caciano> hi
[25-Nov-2008 10:37:18] **garnica> what's up ?
[25-Nov-2008 10:41:37] **caciano> i want to store the information about vlans of devices in zenoss manually
[25-Nov-2008 10:41:58] **caciano> anyone has an idea of a good way of doing that?
[25-Nov-2008 10:42:29] **caciano> the device interfaces have been captured by snmp
[25-Nov-2008 10:42:48] **caciano> and now i want to populate (manually) with the vlans
[25-Nov-2008 11:00:37] **caciano> any idea?
[25-Nov-2008 11:01:16] **garnica> no idea
[25-Nov-2008 11:02:48] **caciano> and if i create a plugin/zenpack/whatever to help me? where can I start?
[25-Nov-2008 11:14:58] **garnica> downloading the Zenoss Development Guide, Zenoss Admin Guide
[25-Nov-2008 11:15:47] **garnica> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenpack-documentation/zenpack-faq
[25-Nov-2008 11:16:01] **adytum-bot^> Title: ZenPack FAQ - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Nov-2008 11:46:30] **Brixius> Hello, I'm looking at the zInterfaceIgnoreTypes field and trying to figure out if I'm suposed to use the SNMP numbers or textual names as in the InterfaceMap.py file. I want to ignore ds1 and ds3 ports. (18 and 30 of snmp interface type #'s) so I'm not sure what to put into this field.
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[25-Nov-2008 13:21:36] **Firestar> I'm trying to upgrade a Zenoss vmware image from 2.1.2 -> 2.2, but I'm getting the following error message:
[25-Nov-2008 13:22:03] **Firestar> too many shadow serial numbers in 'enterprise-2.2'
[25-Nov-2008 13:36:43] **ke4qqq> Firestar: why aren't you moving to 2.3?
[25-Nov-2008 13:45:18] **Firestar> ke4qqq, that's what I'm trying to do, but in order to get to 2.3 from 2.1.2, you have to upgrade to 2.2 first.
[25-Nov-2008 13:45:25] **Brixius> I was told that the conary upgrades were tested from 2.1.3 to newer. and to do an upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3 before going to 2.2 or 2.3
[25-Nov-2008 13:45:39] **ke4qqq> ahhh ok
[25-Nov-2008 13:51:46] **Brixius> ke4qqq: here's the post I had. http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8065
[25-Nov-2008 13:51:53] **adytum-bot^> Title: Forums :: View topic - Error Upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.2 or 2.3 (at forums.zenoss.com)
[25-Nov-2008 21:03:18] **fkruchio_> Hi Guys, new to Zenoss. Do you know if snmp v3 is supported ?
[25-Nov-2008 21:04:21] **fkruchio_> and another question, if you were to use ssh only how limited are you to collect information from servers/devices versus SNMP ?
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[26-Nov-2008 09:38:03] **chantra> hi there
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:15] **chantra> I am looking for a way to proxy request
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:40] **chantra> meaning that there is the main zenoss server which uses a collector to collect data from a LAN
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:51] **chantra> which is not accessible by zenpss main server
[26-Nov-2008 09:38:57] **chantra> is that achieveable?
[26-Nov-2008 09:39:03] **chantra> I failed to :s
[26-Nov-2008 12:59:40] **avegas_> so the RPN that zenoss uses in graph definitions isn't ordinary rpn, is it?
[26-Nov-2008 12:59:48] **avegas_> 1024,*,${here/hw/totalMemory},/,1,-,-100,*
[26-Nov-2008 12:59:59] **avegas_> doesn't seem inline with
[26-Nov-2008 13:00:06] **avegas_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:17] **avegas_> ah
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:20] **avegas_> http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/tut/rpntutorial.en.html
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:22] **avegas_> my bad
[26-Nov-2008 13:02:36] **adytum-bot^> Title: RRDtool - rpntutorial (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[26-Nov-2008 13:05:55] **cgibbons> acronym overload
[26-Nov-2008 13:09:29] **avegas_> it does seem like 1024,* isn't valid rpn as there aren't enough operands on the stack
[26-Nov-2008 13:13:09] **avegas_> ic, there is an implicit first argument
[26-Nov-2008 15:04:54] **fkruchio> Gate scanner issues in the air new zealand queue are not us, just leave it there for now please. I am monitoring it
[26-Nov-2008 15:06:24] **fkruchio> sorry wrong window.
[26-Nov-2008 15:16:22] **avegas_> fkruchio you at ita?
[26-Nov-2008 15:18:27] **fkruchio> sorry whats "ita" ?
[26-Nov-2008 15:30:14] **fkruchio> Hi, can Zenoss understand and use snmp v3 ?
[26-Nov-2008 15:48:45] **avegas_> here's a very specific question
[26-Nov-2008 15:49:02] **avegas_> setting up a data source to read off of
[26-Nov-2008 15:49:52] **avegas_> OID
[26-Nov-2008 15:49:55] **avegas_> 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.5.0
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:06] **avegas_> zenoss appears to get a value of
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:27] **avegas_> 27.96k
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:39] **avegas_> now, when I snmpget the same oid
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:41] **avegas_> I get
[26-Nov-2008 15:50:57] **avegas_> 8388608
[26-Nov-2008 15:51:04] **avegas_> which is correct
[26-Nov-2008 15:54:19] **avegas_> hmm, testing the value using the zenoss interface also seems to return the correct val
[26-Nov-2008 15:54:32] **avegas_> I guess maybe it is the RRD variable type
[26-Nov-2008 16:07:52] **Brixius> Hello
[26-Nov-2008 16:07:57] **Brixius> I have a question.
[26-Nov-2008 16:08:58] **Brixius> I'm trying to graph a tempature as returned from a netguardian. however it's returning a string, in the form of SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.2682.1.2.2.1.5.99.1.6 = STRING: "x....... 71.9860"
[26-Nov-2008 16:09:21] **Brixius> how would I setup a datasource to parse out the last part ie 71.9860.
[26-Nov-2008 16:10:46] **avegas_> Brixius, how would you feel about writing a MIB that would call a script that would snmpget the value, transform it as you so desire, and then return that as a different OID
[26-Nov-2008 16:10:52] **avegas_>
[26-Nov-2008 16:11:04] **avegas_> not that I actually know anything about zenoss
[26-Nov-2008 16:12:25] **Brixius> that would cause me to have to create another device that is running the script. The NetGuardian is a hardware appliance that monitors the environment of a remote datacenter.
[26-Nov-2008 16:13:21] **Brixius> I was kindof hoping there was a place I could put a transform for the datapoint that I could do some sort of filter to grab the data I need.
[26-Nov-2008 16:51:40] **avegas_> so, it looks to me like you can only do RRD tool rpn baloney
[26-Nov-2008 16:51:53] **avegas_> you will probably need to poke at the source
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[27-Nov-2008 03:17:13] **anggarda> zenoss or nagios?
[27-Nov-2008 03:17:45] **anggarda> I have been a nagios user for 2 years, and I'm considering zenoss.
[27-Nov-2008 05:18:52] **mustu> hello! i want to view my webinterface on network or web.. but it isn't working. how i can?
[27-Nov-2008 07:24:42] **mustu> anyone alive?
[27-Nov-2008 07:57:38] **daans> hello... I'm having some troubles with setting device ACL's someone here that can help me out...
[27-Nov-2008 07:57:45] **daans> ??
[27-Nov-2008 08:29:38] **daans> I figured it out....
[27-Nov-2008 09:01:54] **chantra> hi there
[27-Nov-2008 09:20:39] **daans> can anyone help me out with the combination google and acl's ? I have a user with no standard role, but a role for certain locations. Now I want that user to be able to see the status of that location on the dashboard...
[27-Nov-2008 09:21:37] **daans> this is however not werking. I managed to get the google portlet to show up, but in the portlet I get a login script instead of google maps
[27-Nov-2008 09:21:46] **daans> werking=working
[27-Nov-2008 09:21:55] **daans> ??
[27-Nov-2008 09:47:45] **chantra> guys, is there a way to get zenoss to accept 2 devices with the same IP ?
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:01] **chantra> I like to use the collector to access devices in a lan.
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:06] **chantra> so far, it seems:
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:18] **chantra> 1. the server will not accept a device that it cannot access
[27-Nov-2008 09:48:57] **chantra> 2. if I have a second device with the same IP, the server will link this device to the one created first
[27-Nov-2008 09:49:02] **chantra> is that correct?
[27-Nov-2008 09:49:04] **chantra> cheers
[27-Nov-2008 10:00:16] **daans> You have two different collectors? Else I can't see how this is possible...
[27-Nov-2008 12:22:56] **mustu> seems everyone here is ZZzzzzZZZzzz!
[27-Nov-2008 12:23:12] * mustu Zzz
[27-Nov-2008 12:23:26] * mustu is gonna ZZzzZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZ!
[27-Nov-2008 23:02:47] **SpunkMeYeR> hi all
[27-Nov-2008 23:03:15] **SpunkMeYeR> is zenoss support sending alert via sms?
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[28-Nov-2008 07:53:55] **maaarek> Question: If I don't have load average graps but I receive disp space graph... where the problem could be?
[28-Nov-2008 07:54:00] **maaarek> HI.
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[29-Nov-2008 05:45:18] **khalavak> can anybody give me some pointers to getting graphs out of modeling with ssh?
[29-Nov-2008 15:44:52] **krphop> hmm, seems like the latest version of zenoss doesnt read load averages correctly from snmp linux hosts?
[29-Nov-2008 15:45:04] **krphop> I get the 5 minute average, but 1 and 15 stay at 0
[29-Nov-2008 15:45:09] **krphop> or .01 rather
