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[01-Jun-2008 17:56:22] <exkev> I'm monitoring >700 hosts w/ zenoss core, and the bastard leaks memory like whoa
[01-Jun-2008 17:56:48] <exkev> it's way worse on 64-bit, and I found a bug report etc related to x64 arch, so I rolled it on 32 and I still need to restart every few days
[01-Jun-2008 17:57:04] <exkev> it's less severe
[01-Jun-2008 17:57:15] <exkev> anyone else seeing this?
[01-Jun-2008 18:11:15] <monrad> exkev: which version?
[01-Jun-2008 18:20:59] <exkev> 2.1.2 I think
[01-Jun-2008 18:21:21] <exkev> I've been from 2.1.0-2.1.1 and I think I did 2.1.2 when I moved to 32 bit
[01-Jun-2008 18:21:43] <exkev> nope, 2.1.3 actually
[01-Jun-2008 18:58:42] <exkev>
[01-Jun-2008 18:58:47] <exkev> oops
[01-Jun-2008 19:09:04] <monrad> is it a memleak in datacollector?
[01-Jun-2008 19:13:55] <exkev> digging
[01-Jun-2008 19:14:06] <exkev> I think a few procs grew quite constantly...
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:09] <exkev> zenmodeler was the issue on x64
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:25] <monrad> i have only had problems with zenmodeler
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:33] <exkev> it's definitely biggest on the x86 install currently
[01-Jun-2008 19:16:04] <exkev> zenperfsnmp is also about 75% of zenmodeler (150MB for perf, 200MB for model)
[01-Jun-2008 19:16:24] <exkev> but I restart midnight every day now
[01-Jun-2008 19:17:41] <exkev> the trends show increasing i/o wait and memory usage, and the most visible jumps were upon periodic modeler runs
[01-Jun-2008 23:14:53] <Moltar> Hello. Anyone up for answering a question?
[01-Jun-2008 23:15:13] <djs> No. Question answered.
[01-Jun-2008 23:15:50] <djs> So, now that we have that taken care of, how about you just ask your question?
[01-Jun-2008 23:16:28] <Moltar> Thanks... I just wanted to see if anyone was awake. Anyway, here goes, just in case. I upgraded to 2.2.0 from 2.1.3 a couple of days ago, and now have a problem with some boxes that have a private network interface.
[01-Jun-2008 23:17:33] <Moltar> The systems are not reachable on the private address from my zenoss monitor. Zenoss insists on trying to monitor the SMTP service by trying to connect on the private IP. Do you know any way to restrict the IP Service monitor to specific interfaces or IPs?
[01-Jun-2008 23:18:33] <djs> Not so far in my use of it. It seems to grab ahold of the net's dns server, and use whatever it can find there, if I understand what it did correctly.
[01-Jun-2008 23:19:20] <Moltar> For the moment, I've hacked around this by modifying the snmp IpServiceMap class to skip the private address range inside of the 'process' method. But there's got to be a better way than that.
[01-Jun-2008 23:19:49] <Moltar> This used to work OK as far as I know back when we were on 2.1.3...
[01-Jun-2008 23:21:50] <Moltar> I also tried deleting the SMTP service from the ipservices, and then adding it back in manually. That works for awhile, because there is no IP associated with it then. But the next time the device is modeled it gets screwed up again.
[01-Jun-2008 23:23:00] <Moltar> It doesn't just use the DNS names, if that was the case I'd be OK. My DNS only has the publicly accessible addresses of these boxes. The private addresses are for a load-balancer network interface.
[01-Jun-2008 23:23:44] <djs> If it is only 1 or 2 ips, and nothing else works, throw up a redirect from the private to the public ips.
[01-Jun-2008 23:24:59] <Moltar> Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean there. Are you talking about adding something to the routing tables on the zenoss monitor?
[01-Jun-2008 23:25:21] <djs> Um, I suppose that might work.
[01-Jun-2008 23:27:21] <Moltar> There are some special zproperties you can set that are to ignore interfaces or IP addresses. But that doesn't work for the IP services, just for the network map or interface monitoring portion.
[01-Jun-2008 23:28:13] <djs> Haven't gotten that far with zenoss. I have only been on it a week or so, testing it in comparison to Nagios.
[01-Jun-2008 23:29:47] <Moltar> OK. Thanks. I'll try posting something on the forum or the zenoss-users mailing list to see if anyone else has this problem. It might be a bug in the 2.2.0 release, since this seemed to just start after my last upgrade.
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[02-Jun-2008 06:38:56] <pitillo> hello good morning. Anyone know if is it possible to build zenoss with samba provided by itself and use another samba version (I am having problems with autoconf 2.53 and samba ("4.0.0tp4-SVN-build-UNKNOWN"))
[02-Jun-2008 06:52:32] <pitillo> seems that there are problems with wmi and autoconf 2.60 too... I will make some tests trying to remove samba from the source...
[02-Jun-2008 07:05:48] <pitillo> nothing to do without using a distro recommended in the official web page?
[02-Jun-2008 07:12:50] <nemo> should zenwin and zenwinperf be used together ? or mutually exclusive ?
[02-Jun-2008 07:22:21] <pitillo> well, let's see what happen patching the source and removing wmi from the source itself
[02-Jun-2008 07:38:24] <pitillo> hard to go ahead...
[02-Jun-2008 07:43:30] <nemo> ?????
[02-Jun-2008 09:00:22] <DarkMats> Anyone know what to do if you get alot of left over ssh processes when using sshmonitor?
[02-Jun-2008 09:00:55] <DarkMats> No error in any log I can find
[02-Jun-2008 09:05:02] * nemo guesses at the zencommand log in /opt/zenoss/log/
[02-Jun-2008 09:07:47] <DarkMats> No, no errors. Everything works fine in zenoss. Just that it doesn't close the ssh connection I think
[02-Jun-2008 09:20:39] <nemo> not very neat, but you could run a script that kills ones with run time > x mins
[02-Jun-2008 09:34:16] <DarkMats> Yeah, I've done that now, but wanted to know if there was a fix also
[02-Jun-2008 09:34:38] <DarkMats> midnight everyday I kill all zenoss-owned sshd
[02-Jun-2008 09:37:48] <nemo> i guess thats on the client
[02-Jun-2008 09:37:59] <nemo> ( the script doesnt return on the client )
[02-Jun-2008 11:16:04] <pitillo> no way to build zenoss from sources...
[02-Jun-2008 11:17:56] <pitillo> anyone know where is provided (or in which zopeinterface version) ImportError: No module named ZEO.mkzeoinst
[02-Jun-2008 11:29:39] <pitillo> does someone here build zenoss succesfully from source?
[02-Jun-2008 11:37:31] <MrTux> pitillo: i did
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:02] <MrTux> pitillo: on ubuntu hardy, worked like a charm
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:06] <pitillo> MrTux, did you used zenoss-deps package or the dependencies from your distro?
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:34] <MrTux> pitillo: i took the source, and said ./install..
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:06] <pitillo> ummm well, I suppose you made the preinstallation notes about the user and its vars
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:21] <MrTux> yeah, sure.
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:35] <pitillo> btw, here is impossible for fe (python 2.5 and autoconf 2.60 are breaking things)
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:41] <pitillo> and I think sopeinterface too
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:49] <pitillo> *zopeinterface
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:01] <MrTux> you need python2.4
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:05] <pitillo> MrTux, thank you for you comment. I will continue bit by bit
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:14] <pitillo> MrTux, tried with 2.4.5 and 2.4.4 too
[02-Jun-2008 11:45:32] <nemo_> pitillo, zenoss works with a specific version of python only
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:14] <nemo_> -bash-3.1# python -V
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:14] <nemo_> Python 2.4.3
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:15] <pitillo> nemo_, I saw it. Now I am downgrading python and I will try again this afternoon
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:18] <nemo_> 2.4.x i believe
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:20] <pitillo> athank you
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:23] <nemo_> nada ;p
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:50] <pitillo> near, yes, followinf the readmeas I undestood to be > 2.4, but I was in wrong, seems that it's looking for 2.4.x
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:53] <pitillo>
[02-Jun-2008 11:55:42] <nemo_> i only noticed when you mentioned python 2.5
[02-Jun-2008 12:40:51] <pitillo> nemo_, well, with python2.4.3 I have problems with autoconf too. Which version of autoconf are you using? (here 2.60 and now downgrading to 2.53)
[02-Jun-2008 12:44:45] <nemo_> Python 2.4.3
[02-Jun-2008 12:44:55] <nemo_> done a make clean ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:45:57] <pitillo> yep
[02-Jun-2008 12:46:08] <pitillo> but it breaks with wmi and samba svn
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:27] <nemo_> well samba svn doesnt belong does it ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:31] <nemo_> wmi is optional
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:53] <pitillo> ummm yes, it stops there. I tried to remove the code to build wmi. Is there a better way to ommit wmi?
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:53] <nemo_> what distro are you building on btw ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:03] <pitillo> nemo_, I am using CRUX
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:31] <nemo_> never heard of it
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:35] <nemo_>
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:54] <pitillo> well, really doesn't matter the distro used to build sources IMO (only take care with deps)
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:15] <nemo_> in general i agree
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:29] <nemo_> something must have messed up somewhere tho
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:35] <pitillo> btw, I need to look for a good way to don't build wmi instead of removing the code which call the functions to build it
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:39] <nemo_> i never built it from source btw
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:47] <nemo_> use rpms enterprise edition
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:04] <pitillo> well, that's the way when it's building for the distro your are using
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:05] <nemo_> is the no configure script ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:20] <pitillo> ummm I am running install.sh script
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:39] <nemo_> but IS there a configure ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:46] <nemo_> id always run it first if there is
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:52] <pitillo> I made a patch to avoid the wmi functions calls to avoid this message and then I got the one related to zopeinterface and python
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:13] <pitillo> near, well, following the installation instruccions there is not much ways to build it
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:14] <nemo_> like i said, never compiled it , dont know, just trying to help
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:19] <nemo_> gtg, things to do
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:35] <pitillo> near, thank you anyways for your help and comments
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:43] <nemo_> np
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:52] <pitillo> omg, sorry, tab tab
[02-Jun-2008 12:57:41] <pitillo> well, patched and rebuilding again, let's see what happens now...
[02-Jun-2008 13:00:43] <pitillo> well, now it's built fine (py2.4.4 autoconf 2.53 and removed wmi...) bumping up autoconf again
[02-Jun-2008 13:02:15] <pitillo> well, I think it will be a bit hard to make a port for the distro I am using
[02-Jun-2008 13:49:19] <pitillo> a bit hard but possible
[02-Jun-2008 13:59:09] <jb> forums down?
[02-Jun-2008 14:02:29] <ckrough> the zenoss forums? dont think so, im in there now
[02-Jun-2008 14:04:45] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 14:04:48] <jb> i cant get to them
[02-Jun-2008 14:06:44] <twm1010> im browsin through them
[02-Jun-2008 14:08:28] <jb> yeah they are messed up
[02-Jun-2008 14:08:34] <jb> definetely routing issues
[02-Jun-2008 14:09:56] <ckrough> must be somewhere between you and them
[02-Jun-2008 14:12:56] <jb> its not just me
[02-Jun-2008 14:13:11] <jb> its an issue with their SP.. mrrayzenoss was talking about it last week
[02-Jun-2008 14:14:20] <Free_the_Mallocs> any chance they're hosted by ThePlanet?
[02-Jun-2008 14:14:41] <Free_the_Mallocs> since they just had a big explosion at one of their datacenters and something like 9k servers are offline
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:00] <jb> ohd amn
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:06] <jb> i didn't hear about that
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:14] <Free_the_Mallocs> http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011131199
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Texas-Based Server Provider Explosion Affects 9,000 Servers, 7,500 Customers | AHN | June 2, 2008 (at www.allheadlinenews.com)
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:55] <ckrough> I dont think they host at the planet
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:26] <jb> its not..
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:33] <jb> peer1..
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:59] <ckrough> boo
[02-Jun-2008 14:20:32] <twm1010> yikes!
[02-Jun-2008 14:36:25] <jb> argh, why wont this collection plugin work!
[02-Jun-2008 14:38:16] <jb> anyone know how I can troubleshoot this? no mention of the collection map name during the model at all
[02-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <jb> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap
[02-Jun-2008 14:40:30] <jb> it completely skips it
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:13] <magnachef> and you've added it to the list of collectors for that device class?
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:41] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:45] <jb> it worked in 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:49] <jb> this is 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:01] <magnachef> ahhh, another 2.1.x -> 2.2 thing
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:02] <jb> i wonder if the format of something changed
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:09] <jb> yeah and this is a clean 2.2 install
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:10] <jb> not an upgrade
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:49] <magnachef> what collector is it, did you write it?
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:58] <jb> yes
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:11] <jb> i basically copied the DellDeviecMap plugin and changed it
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:15] <jb> its for IBM machines
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:23] <jb> populates the serial number, hw mftg, etc
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:36] <fr500> hi
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:50] <ckrough> hi
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:51] <magnachef> hmmm...do you have it somewhere I can downlaod
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:36] <jb> sec
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:43] <fr500> i-m trying to use the google maps mashup feature but i have an issue
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:48] <jb> i think i need to eggify it
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:53] <jb> i just have no idea how
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:54] <jb>
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:08] <fr500> my network is ethernet and links are not necesailly on a /32 subnet
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:27] <fr500> so each new device i add is draing itself like if it was on a full mesh
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:32] <jb> mag: care if I email it to you?
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:40] <magnachef> sure
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:46] <jb> you can msg your email if you would like
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:31] <magnachef> did you get my msg?
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:43] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:44] <jb> sent
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:59] <jb> the zenpack is installed, and it shows up in the Collection Plugins
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:59] <magnachef> cool
[02-Jun-2008 14:51:17] <jb> i might just need to rewrite it somehow
[02-Jun-2008 14:51:19] <jb> to make it an egg
[02-Jun-2008 14:54:31] <jb> mag: did you get it?
[02-Jun-2008 14:59:28] <magnachef> one sec
[02-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <jb> gr i turned it into an EGG
[02-Jun-2008 15:02:40] <jb> and it still gets skipped
[02-Jun-2008 15:09:54] <magnachef> jb: have you looked at any of the 2.2 collectors? maybe something with the imports aren't working
[02-Jun-2008 15:10:44] <jb> well, this is exactly how the DellMonitor modeler is setup
[02-Jun-2008 15:13:00] <magnachef> hmmm
[02-Jun-2008 15:14:09] <jb> did you try installing it?
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:19] <magnachef> I didn't...I'm still running 2.1.3
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:43] <jb> ah
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:46] <jb> dont uprgade to 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:54] <magnachef> I was just looking over the code
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:58] <jb> its quite aggravating
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:08] <magnachef> heh, that's what I've been reading for the past week or so
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:23] <jb> and it seems like there are no answers to the problems
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:38] <magnachef> my 2.1.2 -> 2.1.3 upgrade didn't go so smoothly, so I'm a bit gun-shy
[02-Jun-2008 15:19:53] <magnachef> is there a reason you commented out the if getdata['setHWProductKey'] line in IBMDeviceMap.py?
[02-Jun-2008 15:22:51] <jb> yeah, that OID wasn't working
[02-Jun-2008 15:22:58] <jb> dellmonitor has one commented out too
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:01] <jb> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap, DellDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:04] <jb> god this is annoying
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:21] <jb> its the exact same as DellDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:26:23] <magnachef> have you restarted zenoss after adding it?
[02-Jun-2008 15:26:49] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 15:28:17] <jb> ok hm
[02-Jun-2008 15:31:42] <jb> haha now delldevicemap is brokne
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:07] <magnachef> heh, how'd that happen? or was it broken the whole time as well?
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:30] <jb> no, I restarted zen
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:33] <jb> and now it's being skipped
[02-Jun-2008 15:35:40] <magnachef> odd
[02-Jun-2008 15:36:24] <magnachef> I'm stepping out for a bit...I'd try getting a hold of someone on zenoss-dev forum
[02-Jun-2008 15:48:21] <jb> ImportError: No module named modeler.plugins.IBMDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:48:24] <jb> uh
[02-Jun-2008 15:49:31] <jb> i think not
[02-Jun-2008 15:51:50] <fr500> is there a way to customize links in the google maps feature
[02-Jun-2008 15:52:08] <fr500> its meshing everything since it's a vpls network...
[02-Jun-2008 15:52:14] <fr500> but it's not really meshed
[02-Jun-2008 15:55:54] <jsm> so the latest zenoss seems pretty broken under centos 5.2..
[02-Jun-2008 15:56:03] <jsm> 5.1 rather
[02-Jun-2008 15:56:38] <jsm> it seems to want to install to /usr/local, but then the startup scripts still reference /opt/zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 15:59:27] <twm1010> fr500: you can choose not to draw certain links
[02-Jun-2008 16:00:17] <jb> jsm: welcome to the club..
[02-Jun-2008 16:00:38] <jsm> jb, not sure how that ever even got released.. i'll wait for the next point release
[02-Jun-2008 16:01:56] <jb> there are TONS of issues in 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 16:03:47] <jsm> it should be pulled
[02-Jun-2008 16:04:20] <jsm> been thinking of giving zabbix a try... anyone have luck with it? wondering how it compares
[02-Jun-2008 16:04:33] <jb> im going to quit wasting my time on it.. hopefully the next point release will fix things
[02-Jun-2008 16:07:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> zabbix is similarly broken
[02-Jun-2008 16:07:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> in fact, I'd go so far as to label zabbix as a dying project
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:18] <jb> yeah, never messed with zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:22] <jb> i really don't want to switch from zen
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:26] <jb> but damn, I just wish it would work.
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> yeah, that was my attitude about zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:46] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm considering zenoss, although so far I have to say I'm somewhat underwhelmed
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:01] <jb> when something like 2.2 with so many problems slips thru the cracks, you gotta wonder..
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:08] <jb> i didn't have any of these issues with 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:23] <jb> Free: what are you using now?
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:43] <Free_the_Mallocs> I currently have a zabbix box as well as munin
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:53] <Free_the_Mallocs> but my zenoss install is being evaluated
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:18] <Free_the_Mallocs> the zenoss UI is superior to zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:23] <Free_the_Mallocs> that's nice anyhow
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:52] <jb> yeah, but a UI is sorta useless if the backend doesn't perform
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:57] <Free_the_Mallocs> agreed
[02-Jun-2008 16:14:30] <Free_the_Mallocs> if this turns out to be similarly broken, then my next candidate will be hyperic
[02-Jun-2008 16:16:18] <fr500> twm1010: how?
[02-Jun-2008 16:19:16] <jb> i havent heard anything about hyperic
[02-Jun-2008 16:19:34] <jb> whats it coded in?
[02-Jun-2008 16:20:10] <jb> sweet.. native AIX support
[02-Jun-2008 16:25:07] <jb> oh.. HQ is agent based
[02-Jun-2008 16:33:35] <Free_the_Mallocs> yeah, that's not an issue for us
[02-Jun-2008 16:34:57] <jb> guess it wouldnt be for me either
[02-Jun-2008 16:35:08] <jb> but im gonna keep on pounding with zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 16:35:13] <jb> i just REALLY hope they fix these issues
[02-Jun-2008 16:40:31] <magnachef> jb: any specific features make you "need" to switch to 2.2?
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:16] <jb> well, I wanted to start monitoring some windows hosts, and I had issues in 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:28] <jb> so I initially tried an upgrade from 2.1 -> 2.2 which botched everything
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:31] <jb> recovered my 2.1 install
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:38] <jb> so now, I have 2.2 on a new server/install
[02-Jun-2008 16:42:43] <magnachef> I see
[02-Jun-2008 16:43:06] <jb> hm ok I think I finaly got this working using the old style zenpack
[02-Jun-2008 16:50:41] <magnachef> what do you mean "old style"?
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:12] <jb> non-egg
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:27] <magnachef> ahh...what was the issue?
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:35] <jb> honestly, im not really s ure
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:41] <jb> something got goofed up with the zenpacks..
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:55] <jb> so I removed/reinstalled, reapplied collector settings
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:58] <jb> restarted zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:59] <jb> etc
[02-Jun-2008 17:36:38] <twm1010> jb: so you had trouble with the EGG zenpacks on a clean install?
[02-Jun-2008 17:39:14] <twm1010> jb: your Zenpack hits the IBM director agent?
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:06] <jb> no
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:16] <jb> its for AIX
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:38] <jb> snmpd on the AIX machines executes some scripts that grab the serial number, model number, etc, and pipe them thru the MIB
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:56] <jb> the zenpack just maps the OID's to "Serial," "HW Model", etc
[02-Jun-2008 17:50:09] <jb> yeah it was a clean install
[02-Jun-2008 17:50:47] <twm1010> hrmm.. odd
[02-Jun-2008 17:52:43] <twm1010> and when it models, it ignores it altogether?
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:06] <jb> yes
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:13] <jb> it was very odd
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:18] <jb> it wasn't consistent
[02-Jun-2008 18:07:27] <twm1010> I would think as long as the collectors are set in zProperties it runs whatever you have selected
[02-Jun-2008 18:08:35] <jb> ok.. zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames doesn't appear to be working
[02-Jun-2008 18:08:56] <twm1010> :O ??
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:05] <twm1010> it works for me, in my upgraded machine
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:29] <jb> trying to ignore lo0
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:33] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:43] <jb> also, do you know how often the disk usage stats are pulled?
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:04] <twm1010> 5 mins, i think
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:18] <jb> so you are completely ignoring an interface using zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:19] <jb> ?
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:24] <twm1010> Yes
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:32] <twm1010> a shitload of them
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:33] <jb> im trying to ignore all errors from it on a tree level
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:46] <jb> ^lo0
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:53] <jb> is what I have in the zProp
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:31] <twm1010> @ /device/network/router i have this: (unrouted|rif0|VLAN|sit|BRI|EFXS|Voice|Bearer|FXO|Foreign|Null|Stack)
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:31] <adytum-bot> twm1010: Error: '/device/network/router' is not a valid command.
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:43] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:10] <twm1010> though, ^lo0 should work
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:23] <jb> maybe I need to remodel?
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:26] <twm1010> yes
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:29] <twm1010> you do
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:32] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:33] <jb> ok
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:34] <jb> cool
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:45] <jb> thanks
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:00] <twm1010> seems like it takes a day or two before it gets around to re-modeling all my devices
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:25] <jb> yeah
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:29] <ckrough> should be every 12h
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:44] <twm1010> oh yeah? cool, i never did really pay attention, just knew it did it
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:48] <ckrough> sometimes I fire it off on the command line when testing, but the 12hr has been reliable
[02-Jun-2008 18:32:01] <jwaugh> I have Zenoss installed and I've found all devices on my network. For some reason I can't see what devices are associated with the IP EXCEPT for the Ricoh printer. I have firewalls off as well on all computers. I'm also wondering why my modem and routers aren't showing up the way they should like the printer. I've watched the demo and read manual page after manual page. I'm confused. -_-
[02-Jun-2008 18:32:53] <jb> are you running SNMPD on your modems, routers, etc?
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:17] <jwaugh> Ah, nope.
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:25] <jwaugh> I don't think the Linksys has that to begin with
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:30] <jwaugh> So I'm screwed, huh?
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:51] <jb> wouldn't say that, but they aren't going to work out of the box
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:06] <jwaugh> Ah, I figured that. I just wasn't sure what I needed to do
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:19] <jwaugh> Windows machines? What do I do about that?
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:29] <jwaugh> There is an snmpd for win32 I'm guessing
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:29] <twm1010> No, there is an SNMP service built into windows
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:43] Free_teh_Mallocs is now known as Free_the_Mallocs
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:45] <twm1010> hit up control panel, add/remove programs, add/remove windows components, its under network monitoring
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:03] <jwaugh> twm1010: Thanks a million
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:04] <twm1010> you then augment that with the SNMP Informant program, allows zenoss to pull some more information
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:08] <jwaugh> Will try to do something for myself now
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:45] <twm1010> then on each box, you configure SNMP through the services snap-in
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:02] <twm1010> if you want to be slick about it, and have a domain, this can be pushed through group policy quite easily, at least for read-only settings
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:12] <jwaugh> I can't do a domain... wish I could.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:22] <jwaugh> It would cost too much to manage 20 or 30 computers.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:32] <jwaugh> I'm using this to start up a new 24/7 monitoring business for local companies.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:40] <jwaugh> I want to be able to see when they have a problem before they know they have some of them.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:46] <jwaugh> And respond and just look like God.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:47] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 18:43:44] <twm1010> Thats a reasonable goal
[02-Jun-2008 18:44:05] <twm1010> Let me tell ya one thing though. That admin manual is a bit of a bear, but suck it up and read it
[02-Jun-2008 18:44:22] <twm1010> will go long ways towards understanding how zenoss works
[02-Jun-2008 18:45:22] <jwaugh> twm1010: Will take your advice and read it.
[02-Jun-2008 18:45:56] <jwaugh> As soon as I saw this software I saw a heck of an opportunity.
[02-Jun-2008 18:46:37] <twm1010> It can be... if you make it one
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:31] <jwaugh> Now I'm having fun finding all these dlls and exes because I don't have my windows disc
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:36] <jwaugh> Google is getting a workout.
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:44] <adytum-bot> http://primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/library/activity/active.htm
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:53] <kso512> lol
[02-Jun-2008 18:48:06] <jwaugh> lol @ adytum-bot
[02-Jun-2008 18:48:32] <twm1010> jwaugh: what windows disc do you need?
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:03] <ckrough> ha
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:04] <jwaugh> when I went into add / remove windows components it needs my SP2 disc. I'm actually at a client's place right now so I don't have my discs available
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:16] <jwaugh> I'm finding the files though
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:26] <twm1010> they're around, for sure
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:29] <jwaugh> right now evntcmd.exe is kinda hard
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:41] <jwaugh> Well, it'd take a while to download a 700 MB iso, so I'm just piecing it together
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:43] <jwaugh> a little at a time
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:43] <jwaugh> haha
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:55] <kso512> jwaugh: i'd make a little USB flash drive that had all the different windows versions' files, plus that informant program
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:58] <twm1010> whatever floats your boat, might be easier to just wait till you have the CD
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:08] <twm1010> kso512:goodidea
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:14] <jwaugh> kso512: Good idea, indeed.
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:20] <jwaugh> just copy the i386 folder
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:24] <jwaugh> from the setup disc
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:41] <kso512> jwaugh: that'd be overkill, but would work
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:53] <jwaugh> kso512: Thank goodness for 8gb flash drive.
[02-Jun-2008 18:51:49] <jwaugh> Anybody have that file that would be easily uploaded somewhere? If not, I'm still looking.
[02-Jun-2008 18:51:51] <jwaugh> Just thought I'd ask.
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[02-Jun-2008 18:56:31] <jwaugh> Lucked out, I remembered that I had bought an XP upgrade disc for this client.
[02-Jun-2008 18:56:50] <jwaugh> Now to scroll up and find the instructions you gave me
[02-Jun-2008 18:57:32] <jwaugh> Okay, SNMP Service and SNMP Trap service ARE running
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:11] <jb> btw, don't expect to just jump into this and have everything work correctly the first time
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:20] <jwaugh> jb: I wasn't.
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:28] <ckrough> ha, jb's had a rough month
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:36] <jwaugh> I'm in mmc but I'm not seeing a snapin the services snapin didn't have what I need.
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:39] <jwaugh> to config snmp
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:32] <jb> right click the service and go to properties..
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:36] <ckrough> jb, are you windows or *nix?
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:36] <jb> all configuration will be there..
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:41] <jb> ck: unix
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:00] <jwaugh> jb: Yeah, I'm dumb, figured that out
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:10] <jwaugh> I'm re-discovering just to see what happens, nothing will - will it?
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:41] <jb> if you configured snmp properly, you should see something..
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:52] <jb> although you will probably want to install snmp informant on those windows boxes too
[02-Jun-2008 19:01:46] <twm1010> betcha communities aren't setup yet
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:08] <jwaugh> jb: snmp informant being a windows component or a downloaded one
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:08] <jb> probably
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:15] <jb> you will need to manually configure the communities
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:17] <jb> and their access
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:21] <twm1010> jwaugh: downloaded
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:58] <jwaugh> ok
[02-Jun-2008 19:06:14] <twm1010> Did you setup your community string in Zenoss yet?
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:23] <jwaugh> twm1010: Nope.
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:25] <jwaugh> Going to do that.
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:34] <jwaugh> Installing snmp informant atm
[02-Jun-2008 19:08:15] <jwaugh> I installed it and don't understand what it does.
[02-Jun-2008 19:09:04] <jwaugh> Whoo! No configuration needed. I installed the snmp and wmi and now it detects just fine.
[02-Jun-2008 19:09:05] <jwaugh> Nifty.
[02-Jun-2008 19:10:15] <jwaugh> or not - should have listened to you all - win services is blank as is OS Processes IP services and File Systems still a lot more work to do
[02-Jun-2008 19:10:58] <twm1010> jwaugh: some of that comes on the second modeling of the device
[02-Jun-2008 19:11:27] <jwaugh> twm1010: Not following. I feel as if I'm about to get a RTFM f not being the nice version of "F"
[02-Jun-2008 19:11:28] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:15] <magnachef> Read The Fantastic Manual?
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:22] <jwaugh> magnachef:
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:32] <jwaugh> I just didn't understand the "second modeling"
[02-Jun-2008 19:20:44] <jwaugh> Quick simple question: under Component type on a device page I only have Other, IPRouteEntry and IpInterface. Should I have anything else?
[02-Jun-2008 19:26:47] <twm1010> depends on what it has detected
[02-Jun-2008 19:26:50] <twm1010> and what you installed
[02-Jun-2008 19:34:20] <jwaugh> I'm reading up on the "community" thing.
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:19] <jb> the "community" thing? have you ever worked with snmp?
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:27] <jwaugh> jb: Sadly, no
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:35] <jb> oh ok
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:41] <jb> well you have quite a bit of reading to do
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:18] <mray> so hypothetically, if the documentation was all in wiki form, do you think you would be more likely to read it vs. the PDFs and HTML?
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:31] <mray> and if you read it, would you help clean it up?
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:39] <mray> (I think you see where I'm going with this)
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:43] <jwaugh> mray: yes
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:04] <jwaugh> and yes I'd help if I could
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:34] <mray> doesn't help your timeframe, but it's something I'm working on
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:41] <mray> requirements for a revamped community site
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:57] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:00] <jwaugh> "requirements" meaning helping with the wiki?
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:17] <mrayzenoss> sorry, we haven't been introduced. I'm the Community Manager for Zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:25] <magnachef> wiki is nice for community additions in terms of documentation, but I dunno if most people would be "more likely to read it"
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:45] <jwaugh> Personally I hate manuals and tend to find wikis and forums for support.
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:46] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: I'm looking at docbook->wiki bridges, so we could push things back and forth
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:47] <jwaugh> That's just me though
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:10] <magnachef> yeah, there is definitely a need for the community to try and fill in the documentation gaps
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:12] <mrayzenoss> updates to the wiki would get reviewed, and pushed into the admin guide and dev guide as appropriate
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:35] <mrayzenoss> our current wiki is anemic
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:52] <jb> hey twm, you monitoring any windows boxes yet?
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:56] <mrayzenoss> but there's a lot of good content
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:11] <mrayzenoss> just hard to find everything
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:35] <magnachef> yeah...that's probably my biggest "complaint" with Zenoss (too many holes in documentation, not enough detail)
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:56] <jwaugh> I think it should be done more by example
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:07] <jwaugh> A set up being made with screenshots once in a while
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:09] <jwaugh> that you can follow
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:32] <jwaugh> and just make your own for your own enterprise
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:47] <magnachef> there are some things like that in the current wiki (httpmonitor, and syslog)
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:14] <jwaugh> It'd be cool if the whole setup process was documented in that forum.
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:22] <jwaugh> Then people like me, would leave people like you alone
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:23] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:27] <jwaugh> lol
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:50] <mrayzenoss> then I'd just be working on the next barrier to usage
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:56] <mrayzenoss> barrier 1 was installers
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:02] <mrayzenoss> barrier 2 is documentation
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:37] <mrayzenoss> at least I always have plenty to work on
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:40] <jwaugh> The installer is nice. I tried installing from source and ran into dependency problems and everything else
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:45] <ckrough> I would like to see more HOWTO format docs, ie; HOWTO set up distributed polling, HOWTO customize graphs, etc...
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:53] <mattik> Hello, I'm sorry because I disturb you silly question, but I like to know what are login account and password in zenoss?
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:58] <jwaugh> ckrough: What you are talking about is too advanced for me.
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:59] <ckrough> I plan to create a couple when I get some time
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:04] <jwaugh> I don't even know what that is
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:08] <mrayzenoss> mattik: admin/zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:22] <mattik> mrayzenoss: Thank you
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:37] <mrayzenoss> ckrough: make sure you put them up on the wiki, I'll blog about them
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:50] <mrayzenoss> and I'll make sure they end up in the new wiki
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:51] <ckrough> yeah, when I do them Ill submit them
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:04] <magnachef> so what's the timeframe for the new wiki?
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:16] <jwaugh> So what is the cut and dry version of getting installed software to show up in zenoss? haha
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:30] <jwaugh> I "see" the computers now since I installed snmp on the windows machines
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:38] <ckrough> we've got a fairly large install, so we get the opportunity to set up some neat stuff. I hope to be able to make some HOWTO's from that and submit them
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:05] <jwaugh> I'd be happy to work on a camtasia in exchange for your help.
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:12] <magnachef> jwaugh: on windows, you may need to use WMI or have SNMP informant running to get that
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:12] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:31] <jb> well.. the installer is nice
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:37] <jb> but the upgrades are not always reliable
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:45] <jb> as many of us have recently seen
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:57] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: gathering requirements now, but I'd say not soon enough
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:00] <jwaugh> I'm lucky, I jumped on board with 2.2 then I suppose
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:01] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:09] <magnachef> heh, yeah
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:17] <jb> hey magna, are you monitoring any windows hosts?
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:23] <jwaugh> Can't you just backup your db and then import it in the new releases?
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:26] <magnachef> yeah...a couple
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:55] <jb> mag: are they reporting the uptime correctly?
[02-Jun-2008 19:53:26] <magnachef> seems like it
[02-Jun-2008 19:53:52] <magnachef> I am getting the software to show up as well
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:02] <magnachef> and I'm just using plain ole MS SNMP
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:07] <jb> software works fine
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:10] <jb> but uptimes are all wrong
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:25] <jb> is the software populating on your linux hosts?
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:27] <magnachef> how much are they off by?
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:59] <jb> sec lemme check
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:02] <magnachef> only on some
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:58] <jwaugh> are all the things in products just there by default?
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:59] <magnachef> I believe that has something to do with adding the SWInstalled MIB
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:03] <jwaugh> Because I have A LOT of things in "products"
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:30] <jb> yeah its off by weeks and weeks
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:38] <jb> zen says this box as been up for 14minutes
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:14] <magnachef> is it showing SNMP's uptime?
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:19] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:21] <magnachef> windows SNMP does some weird things
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:24] <jb> yeah that could be it
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:27] <jwaugh> I'm noticing "uptime" is measured from the last time I ran a discover devices.
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:28] <jb> i did restart SNMP
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:36] <magnachef> hence everyone's push to use snmp informant
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:48] <jb> well, snmp informant is installed
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:52] <magnachef> ahhh
[02-Jun-2008 19:59:15] <jwaugh> zWinUser & password is my common user & password on all clients?
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:00] <magnachef> I think that's for WMI (?) and needs admin level permissions
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:21] <jwaugh> I installed WMI so at least I've gotten that far.
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:57] <twm1010> What do you mean you "installed" WMI.
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:09] <jwaugh> in add remove windows components I installed it
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:17] <twm1010> ah, thats unneccessary
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:24] <jwaugh> twm1010: Uh oh.
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:29] <twm1010> it won't hurt though
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:33] <jwaugh> What did that do?
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:54] <twm1010> It's an extension of sorts, not sure exactly what, but you don't need it, but i wouldn't bother uninstalling it
[02-Jun-2008 20:02:49] <twm1010> What zProperties have you set?
[02-Jun-2008 20:03:25] <jwaugh> Just the defaults
[02-Jun-2008 20:03:30] <jwaugh> and admin and password
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:05] <twm1010> What device class did you put your server in?
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:31] <jwaugh> my "server" is just a windows xp pro computer
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:37] <jwaugh> and I'm not sure what class it is in
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:38] <jwaugh> lol
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:40] <jwaugh> public I think
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:55] <jwaugh> oh, that's the community
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:56] <twm1010> Any device that Zenoss interacts with, is put into a device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:57] <jwaugh> whoops
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:04] <jwaugh> oh, it's in discovered
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:09] <twm1010> the device class/folder determines its settings
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:31] <twm1010> ok, thats your problem then
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:41] <jwaugh> I made a workstations class
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:49] <jwaugh> but I didn't assign any properties to it
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:49] <twm1010> You need to move your server to the /Devices/Server/Windows device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:06:32] <twm1010> Yes, but that class you created is kind of like a blank slate, it doesn't have all the settings and configurations for monitoring a windows box
[02-Jun-2008 20:06:59] <jwaugh> Alright, I moved it to /Devices/Server/Windows/192.168.1.100
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:12] <twm1010> now remodel the device
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:27] <jwaugh> Umm, how?
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:43] <jwaugh> Manage > Model Device
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:44] <jwaugh> haha
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:45] <jwaugh> Sorry
[02-Jun-2008 20:08:23] <twm1010> once its done, have another look at your device
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:03] <jwaugh> OS, Hardware, Software, Events are all empty
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:05] <jwaugh> still
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:16] <jwaugh> Perf is working now though
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:18] <jwaugh> With graphs
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:28] <jwaugh> status seems to be completely filled out too
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:06] <twm1010> You're getting there.
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:43] <twm1010> I'm going to assume you set your zWinUser and zWinPassword under the device itself, ideally you should set this under the zprops of the device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:56] <twm1010> think... inherited filesystem rights
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:11] <jwaugh> So under /Devices set my xProperties?
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:13] <jwaugh> *z
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:14] <jwaugh> sorry
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:20] <twm1010> Well /Devices is like the root
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:25] <jwaugh> It's already set correctly there
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:44] <twm1010> ok, that should be fine for the most "general" of settings, that apply to your entire environment
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:07] <twm1010> just understand that you can set zproperties at any class/subclass or even at the device level
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:23] <jwaugh> I'm not understanding why they are set correctly and I'm still not seeing my software or anything
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:44] <twm1010> model it one more time
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:46] <jwaugh> I have my admin user and password in zProperties and they are showing up correctly in the Windows Server's properties as well (via inheritance)
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:07] <jwaugh> Modeling.
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:38] <jwaugh> http://pastebin.com/m2ff0acfe
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:56] <jwaugh> Nothing, still.
[02-Jun-2008 20:14:36] <twm1010> Hrmm... not sure then... looks like you've got it configured right... could be a limitation of XP? Never did monitor a workstation here
[02-Jun-2008 20:14:38] <twm1010> always server
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:02] <jwaugh> Ah. This has the capability to monitor workstations, though? If not - it isn't going to do me any good.
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:09] <jwaugh> According to the demo video it can.
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:17] <jwaugh> Linux and Windows workstations were on the demo video
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:30] <twm1010> probably will... just not sure what your problem is, most likely something easy
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:14] <kso512> From what I've seen, the 'software' tab is filled in on windows machines with just SNMP/SNMP-Informant...
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:18] <kso512> No need for a log in.
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:45] <twm1010> right
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:46] <jwaugh> well step by step - I installed snmp and wmi then went into my services snap in and snmp service properties - from there, "traps tab" set the community as "public" and trap destinations: as "192.168.1.249" the workstation in question - should that be the ubuntu server running zenoss?
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:03] <kso512> Not traps.
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:12] <twm1010> traps aren't for gathering information, they're sending it
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:13] <jwaugh> so delete the traps settings?
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:13] <kso512> Traps are for sending, pushing, signals...
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:59] <kso512> There are two services that start with SNMP... You need to adjust the first one: SNMP Service
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:17] <jwaugh> SNMP service has the "traps" tab
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:26] <kso512> Yes, but you don't need that tab.
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:29] <jwaugh> Alright
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:33] <jwaugh> I deleted what I did in it
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:44] <jwaugh> Log on as: Leave as Local System Account?
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:49] <jwaugh> or my Admin account?
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:50] <kso512> The Security tab has the goodies
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:00] <kso512> Leave as Local System
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:12] <jwaugh> Okay, under security, I have public with rw access
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:19] <kso512> check all the 'services' under the 'agent' tab
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:19] <jwaugh> and accept snmp packets from any host
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:28] <jwaugh> they are all checked
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:31] <jwaugh> I did that earlier
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:36] <kso512> Did you restart the service?
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:39] <jwaugh> NO
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:40] <jwaugh> Crap
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:55] <kso512> I've done it too - don't feel too bad
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:55] <jwaugh> Restarting... although I only have a "stop" option
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:04] <jwaugh> restarted - now remodel?
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:09] <kso512> *nod*
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:13] <twm1010> Umm... FYI, using the community "Public" with RW access might be a bad idea...
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:23] <kso512> Indeed
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:25] <jwaugh> what access do you recommend?
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:28] <twm1010> RO
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:29] <magnachef> RO
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:33] <jwaugh> ok
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:35] <jwaugh> changing
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:44] <kso512> (and restarting)
[02-Jun-2008 20:21:29] <jwaugh> right
[02-Jun-2008 20:22:26] <jwaugh> remodeling
[02-Jun-2008 20:30:34] <twm1010> im out! later
[02-Jun-2008 20:32:26] <malbon> yo
[02-Jun-2008 20:32:33] <malbon> any of the devs around?
[02-Jun-2008 20:48:43] <jb> I have some devices (ESX VM's) that when modeled their "HW Product" is showing as the OID, not as the actual OS.. whats the best way to change this?
[02-Jun-2008 21:00:37] <ckrough> \quit
[02-Jun-2008 21:00:48] <ckrough> ha, and that wraps up the day...
[02-Jun-2008 21:24:43] <punkcut> I have a question. How do I configure a graph to show up in the main "perf" section of a device? From the defaults I have my filesystem space free being graphed however it does not show up in the perf section of the device. Only when I drill down into it.
[02-Jun-2008 21:46:39] * kso512 hasn't figured that out yet...
[02-Jun-2008 22:07:33] <punkcut> yah it doesnt seem like theres much of a way to edit the graphs in the perf section.
[02-Jun-2008 23:19:43] <kso512> Has anyone had any luck using MSSQL as a backend for the data, instead of MySQL...?
[02-Jun-2008 23:39:50] <jwaugh> So nobody in here knew of anyway to monitor XP workstations?
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[03-Jun-2008 00:10:49] <kso512> jwaugh: erm, should be the same as other Windows OS's...
[03-Jun-2008 02:21:32] <troy42> g'evening
[03-Jun-2008 02:47:13] <jwaugh> Hey guys
[03-Jun-2008 02:55:26] <jwaugh> I just placed a Windows 2003 server in /dev/server/windows/ and it shows all software - I cannot get it to do this in XP, any ideas? I tried putting the xp workstation in the same class but nothing.
[03-Jun-2008 02:56:49] <jwaugh> zenwin is giving me a red dot in status on my server
[03-Jun-2008 03:00:46] <troy42> hmm, haven't played with a win32 endpoint myself
[03-Jun-2008 03:04:41] <jwaugh> Seems very hard to find support for them even though it seems to be the most common enterprise server type around here.
[03-Jun-2008 03:05:30] <jwaugh> What do blue dots mean in Status tab on a device?
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[03-Jun-2008 03:22:02] <cbleach> Are you sure that the WMI connection to the xp machine is working with the credential you use for the 2003 server?
[03-Jun-2008 03:29:10] <jwaugh> Hmm, even 2k3 server isn't showing services running or anything
[03-Jun-2008 03:31:25] <jwaugh> WMI actually, isn't working. I don't know why either.
[03-Jun-2008 03:32:26] <jwaugh> skipping 192.168.0.15 has bad wmi state (that's my win2k3 server)
[03-Jun-2008 03:33:32] <jwaugh> when I try to remodel
[03-Jun-2008 04:11:12] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Divmod/Holden Web Partnership - 03 Jun, 03:05AM
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[03-Jun-2008 04:21:52] <jwaugh> Is there a way to pair up a discovered IP to a device so it will show up on your network map?
[03-Jun-2008 04:24:04] <jwaugh> I have a netgear wireless router and it's showing up. in my discovered class
[03-Jun-2008 04:49:03] <kso512> jwaugh: You should be able to move the router to the /Devices/Network/Router class.
[03-Jun-2008 04:53:00] <jwaugh> kso512: I did so and it's not showing on the network map. Because there is no actual device. Only an IP address where there SHOULD be the wireless router
[03-Jun-2008 04:54:53] <kso512> jwaugh: Ah. Without SNMP enabled on it (may be possible), or some other form of monitoring, I'd just move it to /Devices/Ping then...
[03-Jun-2008 04:55:15] <kso512> jwaugh: That way it keeps an eye on it, but doesn't expect more than a ping reply.
[03-Jun-2008 04:56:25] <lahirup> hi we receive this error "WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba" can any body please help on this
[03-Jun-2008 04:56:57] <kso512> lahirup: Sorry, I haven't cracked WMI yet...
[03-Jun-2008 04:58:00] <lahirup> this error comes from a win2003ent/sp1 server
[03-Jun-2008 05:33:13] <lahirup> can any one help on this error "WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 05:43:10] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 05:46:59] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 06:47:00] <lahirup> any one familiar with this error - com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 07:24:34] <pitillo> hello good morning
[03-Jun-2008 08:02:14] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 08:37:27] <lahirup> good morning
[03-Jun-2008 08:37:27] <lahirup> <lahirup> can anybod
[03-Jun-2008 08:38:20] <lahirup> can anyone help me with the following error : WMI connect error on SVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 08:41:49] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 08:57:58] <sircco> hey people, how do i add locations to google map?
[03-Jun-2008 08:59:21] <sircco> found it
[03-Jun-2008 09:10:09] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 09:15:38] <pitillo> lahirup, I made a search and I can see a post in zenoss lists, but I can't open it (seems that I have problems with the list) if you can take a look to see if it can help you (if you didn't) http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/008789.html I hope it can be usefull, if not, sorry.
[03-Jun-2008 10:18:33] <mrsparks> hey all , anyone have a clue which packages i have to update on an ubuntu machine to fix that threshold not met 0.0 problem ?
[03-Jun-2008 10:22:53] <mrsparks> okay..
[03-Jun-2008 10:57:48] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 11:25:00] <lahirup> I receive the error message:zen.zenwin: WMI Connection to QTRTWEBSVR01 went down in zenoss log file. can anybody help me?
[03-Jun-2008 11:27:48] <nemo_> you know what i HATE
[03-Jun-2008 11:28:03] <nemo_> people who sit there repeating there question, let me explain how it works
[03-Jun-2008 11:28:12] <nemo_> if ppl know, they might reply
[03-Jun-2008 12:12:02] <ckrough> \
[03-Jun-2008 12:51:20] <MrTux> jyfi, i created a zenoss user group on xing, see https://www.xing.com/net/zog
[03-Jun-2008 12:51:26] <adytum-bot> Title: XING - Groups - All Groups - Zenoss User Group - Welcome to this XING group (at www.xing.com)
[03-Jun-2008 13:02:14] <twm1010> Yay for exploding servers!
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:07] <ckrough> problems?
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:39] <twm1010> I got this assanine proxy server that likes to crash at random intervals
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:43] <twm1010> Can't put my foot on the issue
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:49] <ckrough> ah
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:07] <twm1010> heh, have you seen roger rabbit?
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:31] <ckrough> the movie? yup
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:42] <twm1010> check out this photoshop this guy did
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:43] <twm1010> http://pixeloo.blogspot.com/2008/04/jessica-rabbit-untooned.html
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:51] <twm1010> used angelina jolie as a base
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:56] <adytum-bot> Title: pixeloo: Jessica Rabbit Untooned (at pixeloo.blogspot.com)
[03-Jun-2008 13:07:10] <nemo_> sad mfs
[03-Jun-2008 13:09:58] <nemo_> get a job and take a real female on a date ;p
[03-Jun-2008 13:11:48] <twm1010> What does that have to do with anything?
[03-Jun-2008 13:12:11] <twm1010> Who shit in your cheerios this morning?
[03-Jun-2008 13:12:57] <nemo_> haha , your saying that to me ? isnt this a zenoss channel ?
[03-Jun-2008 13:13:26] <nemo_> keep your sadness to yourself i wont have to comment
[03-Jun-2008 13:14:11] <twm1010> So because my discussion is off-topic you being a complete jerk is justified?
[03-Jun-2008 13:28:55] <pitillo> thanks all for this great app... monitoring some networks fine since yesterday. Testing and waiting how hard will be to make an upgrade
[03-Jun-2008 13:35:55] <twm1010> from 2.1.3 to 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 13:41:21] <pitillo> ummm no, I have atm 2.2.0. I mean if I can test this version and wait for the next release to see if it will be hard to update
[03-Jun-2008 13:41:51] <monrad> i have schedulede a 2 hour window for upgrading 2.1.3 to 2.2.0 tomorrow
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:08] <twm1010> I would recommend waiting until 2.2.1 is released, scheduled for 6/11
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:45] <pitillo> finally I couldn't make a port to this distro and installed it following the guide (using the zenoss user and setting up the destdir by hand)
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:58] <monrad> twm1010: any reasons?
[03-Jun-2008 13:43:23] <twm1010> I myself have had some weird issue crop up, Zenpacks broken, just some odd things here and there
[03-Jun-2008 13:43:30] <pitillo> I will continue reading the good guide and I will see if there are notes about upgrading
[03-Jun-2008 13:44:20] <twm1010> pit: I've only used the appliance, where updates are done through Conary, its possible that installs form source or RPM are a little smoother
[03-Jun-2008 13:46:47] <pitillo> ummm I will take a look first to webpage and the guide (atm I am at page 83 xD) to see if there is info related to how to upgrade (I am quite sure there must be good info about this) I will upgrade from source. I think the scripts provided will only need some little changes according to my system
[03-Jun-2008 13:59:56] <nemo_> twm1010, i think your the one being a jerk, but whatever i dont wanna talk to you , i assume the same from you , so EOD ?
[03-Jun-2008 14:03:02] <twm1010> Next time keep your comments to yourself... I'll do the same. EOD
[03-Jun-2008 14:08:56] <nemo_> Rgr
[03-Jun-2008 14:41:37] <ckrough> anyone know where to find a list of the variables that are available for graph report summaries?
[03-Jun-2008 14:42:04] <ckrough> ie; ${dev/id}
[03-Jun-2008 14:45:25] <twm1010> im pretty sure its in the appendix in the admin guide
[03-Jun-2008 14:45:57] <ckrough> thanks
[03-Jun-2008 14:46:01] <twm1010> also look in the alerting section
[03-Jun-2008 14:46:04] <twm1010> where you edit the messages
[03-Jun-2008 14:53:44] <twm1010> Is anyone monitoring HP or IBM san storage w/Zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 14:55:10] <magnachef> netapp
[03-Jun-2008 14:57:26] <pitillo> I am not sure if this is related directly to zenoss (I think it doesn't) but may be someone can give me a hint about google maps. Anyone know if is it possible to put the point googlemaps gave to the end of a street instead of the begining?
[03-Jun-2008 14:58:59] <pitillo> pfff, using the number does the trick, sorry.
[03-Jun-2008 15:14:05] <ckrough> twm1010: I assume you were referring to the TALES section of the doc. it shows what appear to be some objects, but I can
[03-Jun-2008 15:14:30] <ckrough> cant seem to find definitions like ${dev/id} as compared to "getId"
[03-Jun-2008 15:19:14] <mib_698587> Hi guys..
[03-Jun-2008 15:20:10] <ckrough> hi
[03-Jun-2008 15:20:58] <mib_698587> I am tring to set traps to be sent to an Email address, is the SMTP host the name of the Mail server?
[03-Jun-2008 15:21:36] <ckrough> SMTP is the sendmail host, which could be localhost if you are running sendmail on the server
[03-Jun-2008 15:21:46] <ckrough> which is most liktely the case
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:09] <mib_698587> I get confused right there..
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:33] <mib_698587> The company is running their own groupwise Email server
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:44] <ckrough> what OS is the Zenoss server
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:57] <mib_698587> CentoOS 5.1
[03-Jun-2008 15:24:18] <ckrough> it would be easiest to have zenoss send to the local sendmail process and let that route the email. The local sendmail should know to send the emails to the proper destination (groupwise) via the MX DNS record for the domain. In short, they using the localhost as the smtp server. Make sure you are running sendmail (default) on the server.
[03-Jun-2008 15:25:42] <mib_698587> DO you know if there is a documentation for this?..the manual is kind of short in details
[03-Jun-2008 15:27:21] <ckrough> rofl
[03-Jun-2008 15:27:32] <ckrough> yeah, thats a common sentiment
[03-Jun-2008 15:28:02] <ckrough> you said you were sending traps to email addresses, you mean you are sending alerts to email addreses?
[03-Jun-2008 15:28:59] <mib_698587> my boss wants traps or notifications to be send to an external Email address for monitoring purposes
[03-Jun-2008 15:29:40] <mib_698587> The zenoss server is a default installation, and it looks af if sendmail was enable by default..
[03-Jun-2008 15:31:59] <ckrough> it should Just Work (tm) with the defaults, I think
[03-Jun-2008 15:32:27] <ckrough> with localhost as the smtp server
[03-Jun-2008 15:32:58] <ckrough> "/sbin/chkconfig --list sendmail"
[03-Jun-2008 15:33:09] <ckrough> should show it "on" on 2 3 4 5
[03-Jun-2008 15:36:21] <mib_698587> let me check
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:16] <mib_698587> yes it is..
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:22] <mib_698587> what is my next step?
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:31] <mib_698587> please help me out
[03-Jun-2008 15:44:10] <ckrough> what isnt; working? are you not getting emails from it?
[03-Jun-2008 15:46:23] <jb> ok
[03-Jun-2008 15:46:37] <jb> just curious.. anyone here monitoring F5 bigips?
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:04] <magnachef> sort of...not very well though
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:27] <ckrough> nay
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:54] <jb> magnachef: what all are you doing with them?
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:01] <jb> recieving SNMP traps of course
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:13] <jb> but, I would like more informative info.. not just "bigIPNodeUp/Down"
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:17] <jb> i would like to know WHICH node is going up/down
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:29] <jb> so im gonna mess with syslog-ng on the bigip's and try to forward these alerts to zen
[03-Jun-2008 15:49:34] <magnachef> well, I'm not getting any perf data at the moment
[03-Jun-2008 15:50:44] <magnachef> just interface perf
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:08] <magnachef> it can't find the speed of the interface, so it just shows "unknown"
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:14] <jb> hm
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:17] <jb> are these LTMs?
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:20] <mib_698587> well, I want those traps to go to an external email...how do I set that up..?
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:40] <jb> just configure alerts
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:42] <magnachef> LTMs? I don't know that TLA
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:44] <jb> and then they will be sent via email
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:54] <jb> LTM == bigip load traffic monitor
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:56] <mib_698587> let me check that
[03-Jun-2008 15:52:32] <twm1010> Is Zenoss setup with a user account on that e-mail system?
[03-Jun-2008 15:53:16] <magnachef> jb: not sure. BIG-IP Kernel 4
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:28] <jb> you are running 4.x?
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:31] <jb> wow dude thats old
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:38] <magnachef> yeah
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:00] <jb> all of our's are running 9.3.1
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:26] <magnachef> that seems like a big difference
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:32] <magnachef> so you're running kernel 9
[03-Jun-2008 15:56:32] <magnachef> not my realm of responsibility though
[03-Jun-2008 15:57:54] <jb> ah i manage the bigips..
[03-Jun-2008 16:01:00] <magnachef> any idea why my interface speeds would show up as Unknown though. Seems like snmpwalks are returning the data
[03-Jun-2008 16:01:37] <twm1010> that is definitely quite odd
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:44] <jb> hm
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:49] <jb> i just noticed that my MIB's did not import correctly
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:53] <jb> they are showing 0 mappings/traps
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:46] <jb> not sure yet magna
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:49] <jb> i'll let you know how mine goes
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:55] <jb> if I can get these MIB's loaded correctly
[03-Jun-2008 16:04:34] <jb> have you guys imported mib's into 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 16:07:46] <jb> there we go
[03-Jun-2008 16:20:12] <twm1010> nope, did you ever figure out which folder to use?
[03-Jun-2008 16:22:56] <mib_698587> after checking sendmail.../sbin/chkconfig --list sendmail
[03-Jun-2008 16:23:21] <mib_698587> shows "on" on 2 3 4 5
[03-Jun-2008 16:23:48] <mib_698587> I am lost here about the next step to setup email alerst
[03-Jun-2008 16:24:21] <mib_698587> I am trying to setup email alerts for 2 Nortel PBXs
[03-Jun-2008 16:32:11] <jwaugh_> Can somebody send me a screen shot of what a working Windows XP status page should look like? I'm trying to figure it out and documentation on XP is pretty non-existent
[03-Jun-2008 16:32:14] <jwaugh_> I'm wondering if I can monitor windows services and everything as well
[03-Jun-2008 16:33:15] <jb> twm1010: you can use any dir..
[03-Jun-2008 16:36:16] <mib_698587> anyone having problem with Zenmib run command?
[03-Jun-2008 16:37:47] <mib_698587> in version 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 16:58:43] <mib_698587> Anyone having problems when running Zenmib on version 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:20] <mib_698587> here is the solution: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6003&highlight=zenmib
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:41] <mib_698587> I just do not know how to create those symbolic links...
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2 - Issue importing mibs using Zenmib (at community.zenoss.com)
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:09] <nemo_> jb: i noted some mibs install nothing / nada / zip
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:30] <nemo_> but correctly loaded mibs go into /opt/zenoss/....../share/mibs/
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:37] <nemo_> or similar
[03-Jun-2008 17:15:36] <mib_698587> The issue is that Zenmib is not working, and I am issuing command under the "Zenoss" user
[03-Jun-2008 17:16:32] <mib_698587> in CentOS 5.1 the path is /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/
[03-Jun-2008 17:35:04] <nemo_> its still /opt/zenoss in my centos5.1
[03-Jun-2008 17:35:07] <nemo_> but yes i dig
[03-Jun-2008 17:37:24] <twm1010> admin manual points to $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site
[03-Jun-2008 17:45:36] <mib_698587> the path information is all over the place...I know whrer mine is
[03-Jun-2008 17:46:14] <mib_698587> where is the $ZENHOME variable declared...what file?
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:05] <nemo_> echo $ZEN_HOME as zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:09] <magnachef> ~/bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:13] <nemo_> if that doesnt work, something is broken
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:14] <magnachef> .bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:47] <magnachef> that's where the variable is create for the zenoss user's shell
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:57] <magnachef> you won't have it defined as any other user
[03-Jun-2008 17:49:24] <mib_698587> the problem I am having is that..
[03-Jun-2008 17:49:55] <mib_698587> Zenmib is not working as a Zenoss user, since I installed version 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:50:37] <magnachef> ahhh
[03-Jun-2008 17:50:40] <mib_698587> The link I posted above tothe forums show how to fix it..I just do not know how to make a symbolic link for zenmib to work
[03-Jun-2008 17:51:35] <magnachef> sudo ln -s current_file new_link_file
[03-Jun-2008 17:51:47] <mib_698587> according to the post a The simple fix:= create symbolic links in $ZENHOME to "share" and "libexec" folders.
[03-Jun-2008 17:52:28] <mib_698587> can you translate that to a command using what I just gave you
[03-Jun-2008 17:52:52] <mib_698587> did you have that problem with 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 17:53:35] <magnachef> so within /opt/zenoss, create symbolic links to the share and libexec folders that are elsewhere on the system
[03-Jun-2008 17:53:48] <magnachef> no, I was smart and stayed with 2.1.3 :-)
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:20] <magnachef> the best bet is to wait a couple weeks until 2.2.1 comes out
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:41] <magnachef> not sure if that's not an option
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:56] <magnachef> what share and libexecs are you supposed to be linking to?
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:18] <mib_698587> I can't wait as my boss want this resolved today....did you hear anyone talking about this...
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:29] <magnachef> because share and libexec should already be in that directory
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:41] <magnachef> dunno
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:11] <mib_698587> Issue 1: New location of "share" and "libexec" folders! (Ubuntu 8.04 - Zenoss 2.2)
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:25] <mib_698587> The location of the the "share" and "libexec" folders has been changed in Zenoss 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:39] <mib_698587> New location: /usr/local/zenoss/common/
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:52] <magnachef> IMHO, I wouldn't be running a server application on Ubuntu, but that's me
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:52] <mib_698587> Previous location: $ZENHOME/
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:57] <twm1010> interesting... i wonder how this affects the appliance
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:05] <mib_698587> Note: In Zenoss 2.2 $ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:08] <magnachef> use CentOS or something like that
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:17] <mib_698587> The simple fix:= create symbolic links in $ZENHOME to "share" and "libexec" folders.
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:31] <mib_698587> Possible? script fix:= Modify the "def zenpath" definition in $ZENHOME/Products/Zenutils/Utils.py file?
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:50] <magnachef> that's the thing...share and libexec should already be in /opt/zenoss - where did they go?!
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:20] <mib_698587> don't know..
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:39] <mib_698587> the mibs path has also moved..
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:57] <jb> no
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:59] <jb> just create it
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:04] <mib_698587> before fix: NFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:09] <jb> then cwd to it and run "zenmib run"
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:28] <mib_698587> after fix: INFO:zen.zenmib:Skipping file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/irtf/IRTF-NMRG-SMING-EXTENSIONS
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:38] <mib_698587> how do I fix it..
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:42] <mib_698587> I am sorry..
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:53] <magnachef> try doing what jb suggested
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:54] <mib_698587> I am not that good with Linux..I do try
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:01] <magnachef> just mkdir /opt/zenoss/share
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:17] <mib_698587> and that is..
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:22] <mib_698587> it
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:46] <magnachef> well, you may need to make all the necessary sub directories
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:08] <magnachef> did you make a backup?
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:13] <mib_698587> no..
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:32] <mib_698587> I will before I try anyhting
[03-Jun-2008 18:03:15] <magnachef> I'd hate to say this, but are you able to do a rebuild from scratch?
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:00] <mib_698587> yes I can..it will set me back big time..
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:13] <mib_698587> magna...I need to get this done today..
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:25] <magnachef> or you'll waste your time trying to fix it
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:32] <mib_698587> there is only one post in the fotrumd about this
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:34] <magnachef> there's been a slew of issues with the upgrade
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:38] <mib_698587> how could thids be
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:39] <magnachef> this may be the first of many
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:48] * magnachef shrugs
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:15] <mib_698587> the thing is that ....previous versions never worked for me..
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:41] <magnachef> really?! Were others able to get it working on ubuntu?
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:47] <mib_698587> I spent all of my time fixing them just to get it to a half decent working state
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:03] <mib_698587> thei is the only version that I can actually see results
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:13] <magnachef> well, any NMS system is going to take time to configure and setup to your liking
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:46] <mib_698587> this is a much better product this time around..
[03-Jun-2008 18:07:34] <mib_698587> and if I get this resolved today and setup traps to go to an Email address, I will look like a hero, at least for one day
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:00] <magnachef> why don't you get traps creating events, then have the events send emails
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:08] <magnachef> do it that way
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:21] <magnachef> or is that what you mean?
[03-Jun-2008 18:09:02] <punkcut> I currently have zenoss 2.2 running on Centos 5.1 - however its refusing to populate the installed software fields and is treating CentOS as an unknown OS. - any advice on how to resolve this?
[03-Jun-2008 18:10:21] <punkcut> the SNMP hrinstalledsoftware section does have the rpm information. It just doesnt seem like zenoss is pulling it.
[03-Jun-2008 18:19:39] <magnachef> I'm on CentOS 4.6, and same issue...I'm curious as how to fix that as well
[03-Jun-2008 18:19:57] <magnachef> that that high on my priority list, unfortunately
[03-Jun-2008 18:24:37] <twm1010> if you SNMP walk the device, does this software come up?
[03-Jun-2008 18:25:07] <punkcut> of course
[03-Jun-2008 18:25:49] <punkcut> ive pretty much leveled my SNMP config down to a rocommunity line just to ensure i wasnt being stupid
[03-Jun-2008 18:26:45] <punkcut> twm1010, ^
[03-Jun-2008 18:27:01] <magnachef> could it be something with the collectors enabled?
[03-Jun-2008 18:27:40] <punkcut> magnachef, like?
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:10] <magnachef> not sure if there's a specific software resource collector that needs to be added
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:13] <punkcut> magnachef, only one collector enabled and only monitoring a couple of VMs on the same subnet
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:31] <punkcut> magnachef, I installed the core-zenpacks package... sooo....
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:46] <twm1010> What device class is the system in?
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:57] <punkcut> everything is
[03-Jun-2008 18:29:05] <punkcut> '/device/server/linux'
[03-Jun-2008 18:31:46] <ckrough> argh. I have RRD files that are not updating and really dont want to solve this by rebooting the services again. I've tried pushing changes and remodeling to no avail. anyone know any tricks to figuring out the root-cause on stale RRD files?
[03-Jun-2008 18:33:19] <magnachef> zenperfsnmp.log - check for timeouts
[03-Jun-2008 18:35:18] <magnachef> also make sure that you're able to properly walk the device, and that the community string settings, etc are working
[03-Jun-2008 18:38:27] <skunkwerk__> i'm new to zenoss - and have 2 questions:
[03-Jun-2008 18:38:45] <skunkwerk__> 1) can it restart services that have crashed, like monit... ie event handlers
[03-Jun-2008 18:39:45] <skunkwerk__> 2) can i send reports from others servers to the main servers without manually adding each one's IP address for authentication (because the number of servers will scale up/down)
[03-Jun-2008 18:41:59] <magnachef> I don't think it restarts services by default, but can run comands from interface - or use something like puppet/cfengine
[03-Jun-2008 18:42:44] <magnachef> not sure what you're asking for #2
[03-Jun-2008 18:45:59] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: thanks... 2) is basically how a cluster of machines can send data to the main reporting server (the one with a web server), and how they get authenticated. i have machines that are coming online/offline with IP addresses that aren't in the same subnet or anything so can't authenticate that way. how does zenoss do it?
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:24] <ckrough> you have pollers on dhcp?
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:26] <magnachef> well, they use SNMP
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:42] <magnachef> Zenoss polls them via SNMP and receives traps and syslogs
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:15] <magnachef> or you could do it through an SNMP proxy I suppose if you can't get direct access to all machines on a network
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:17] <ckrough> I think he means he's doing a distributed install with multiple pollers. why do the pollers change addresses/networks?
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:42] <skunkwerk__> ckrough: i'm using amazon ec2 virtual machines
[03-Jun-2008 18:48:28] <magnachef> hmmm...I know the enterprise version allows for distributed architecture
[03-Jun-2008 18:48:41] <skunkwerk__> by 'polling' wouldn't you have to specify the IP addresses to poll ahead of time? or does snmp have some way of new machines registering with the zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:05] <magnachef> there are auto discoveries that it can do on networks
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:08] <magnachef> or network segments
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> punkcut: I figured out the software problem
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:28] <punkcut> magnachef, do tell?
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:44] <ckrough> which obviously be a problem from ec2, unless you are monitoring some subnet on public ip space
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:45] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: i read about that, but again the machines might not be in the same subnet, and other machines that aren't mine might be
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:45] <magnachef> go to /Devices/Server/Linux
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:11] <magnachef> skunk: you should post to the forums
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:21] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: will do so, thanks for the pointers
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:35] <ckrough> thats a interesting idea though. check out mosso as well, not sure if we have different features that you could use vs ec2
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:49] <ckrough> http://www.mosso.com/
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:50] <magnachef> skunk: that may require more discussion that just the IRC lurkers can provide
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:56] <adytum-bot> Title: MOSSO :: The Hosting Cloud - Home (at www.mosso.com)
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:11] <magnachef> punkcut: then click the down arrove menu
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:17] <skunkwerk__> thanks guys, i'll post to the forum
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:30] <punkcut> magnachef, k
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:34] <magnachef> punk: then go to More -> Collector Plugins
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:04] <punkcut> im following.
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:12] <magnachef> then click on "Add Fields"
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:36] <punkcut> not seeing that
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:43] <magnachef> and click and drag from the right box the "zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap"
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:03] <magnachef> do you see a box with a list of collectors?
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:07] <punkcut> magnachef, ok i found it. thanks ill give that a shot
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:19] <magnachef> so move that over to the left box, then save
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:20] <punkcut> magnachef, the add fields button is light grey on a grey background. hard to see.
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:24] <magnachef> then remodel the device
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:36] <magnachef> yeah, it is subtle
[03-Jun-2008 18:54:14] <magnachef> it will lengthen your remodeling time by a lot (at least for me it did)
[03-Jun-2008 18:54:39] <punkcut> python shat itself.
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:00] <magnachef> hmm...is it still remodeling?
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:05] <punkcut> seems like it
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:47] <punkcut> http://pastebin.ca/1037976
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:48] <magnachef> cool, then check the software tab when it's done and you should see it
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:55] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 1037976 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Jun-2008 18:56:05] <punkcut> magnachef, ive got a meeting to goto. I will be back in a little while. Thanks for all the help.
[03-Jun-2008 18:56:46] <magnachef> good luck
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[03-Jun-2008 20:15:12] <mib_698587> I just found this out as I was trying to install mibs as a zenoss user:
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:16] <mib_698587> su zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:38] <magnachef> yeah, you need to do that to become the zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:49] <magnachef> were you not running the zenmib as the zenoss user before
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:58] <mib_698587> hold down i am not done
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:01] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/ .bashrc: permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:24] <mib_698587> bash-3.1$
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:50] <mib_698587> that is what I am getting, when I go in as a zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:07] <magnachef> do: ls /home/
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:34] <mib_698587> I get zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:43] <magnachef> ls -l
[03-Jun-2008 20:19:13] <mib_698587> do you want me to do this as a zenoss user?
[03-Jun-2008 20:20:00] <magnachef> try root or sudo
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:23] <mib_698587> I am in root home and I get the usual files...Desktop and files..
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:24] <magnachef> and see what the permissions are of the .bashrc file
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:43] <magnachef> ls -la /home/zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:23:13] <mib_698587> rw- r-- r-- 1
[03-Jun-2008 20:24:04] <mib_698587> is that good?
[03-Jun-2008 20:26:56] <jb> ok guys.. i think im gonna build a BIGIP zenpack
[03-Jun-2008 20:27:01] <jb> for anyone interested
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:06] <jb> just got to figure out the proper way to create a zenpack
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:20] <mib_698587> how come my zenoss user is restricted?
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:35] <mib_698587> I do su zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:58] <mib_698587> I do get the bash prompt but I also get the permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:31:29] <jb> i have no idea what you are talking about
[03-Jun-2008 20:31:54] <mib_698587> when I go in as a zenoss user to install Mibs
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:25] <pitillo> mib_698587, chmod u+x /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:33] <mib_698587> I do get the bash-3.1$ prompt and inmediately followed by "permission denied"
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:51] <mib_698587> thanks, let me try that
[03-Jun-2008 20:33:12] <mib_698587> do I do this a root or zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:33:18] <mib_698587> as root?
[03-Jun-2008 20:34:35] <pitillo> if you (zenoss user) are the owner of that file, you can do it like the user, if not, you must do it like root and then own the file to the zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:35:33] <mib_698587> I'll try firts as root
[03-Jun-2008 20:37:46] <mib_698587> I can only do it as root, as zenoss user I get permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:08] <pitillo> mib_698587, own the file for zenoss user then
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:13] <mib_698587> then I went back in as zenoss user and I got a permission denied again
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:48] <pitillo> mib_698587, chown zenoss .bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:54] <mib_698587> I can't since zenoss user is restricted, I am not able to take ownership
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:24] <mib_698587> I am basically trying to run anything as Zenoss user and I am getting permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:28] <pitillo> if you chow like root you can't too?
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:38] <mib_698587> let me try
[03-Jun-2008 20:40:44] <mib_698587> did you mean: chown zenoss /home/zenoss/.bashrc ?
[03-Jun-2008 20:42:07] <mib_698587> I am still getting permission denied..
[03-Jun-2008 20:42:57] <mib_698587> This CENTOS 5.1 and zenoss version 2.2......paths are edifferent for each distro
[03-Jun-2008 20:43:25] <mib_698587> and I thinks that sthe problem..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:03] <pitillo> I can't help too much, I modified paths for my needs
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:12] <mib_698587> thank you..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:35] <mib_698587> I do really need the help, but I am been pulled into a meeting...
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:40] <mib_698587> thank you again..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:49] <punkcut> mib_698587, this is something to do with your linux system not zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:45:04] <punkcut> mib_698587, sudo chown -R zenoss.zenoss /home/zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:45:21] <punkcut> magnachef, you around?
[03-Jun-2008 20:50:00] <magnachef> yep
[03-Jun-2008 20:50:27] <magnachef> jb: I'm very interested
[03-Jun-2008 20:51:56] <magnachef> what's up punkcut?
[03-Jun-2008 20:52:14] <magnachef> does the software tab populate now for you?
[03-Jun-2008 20:54:07] <punkcut> magnachef, aye it does. did you happen to take a look at that traceback?
[03-Jun-2008 20:54:37] <punkcut> magnachef, are you a contributer to zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:06] <magnachef> I did briefly...no, I'm not a zenoss dev
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:26] <punkcut> magnachef, im not a python expert or anything but it looks like its failing out when the ssh authentication fields are NULL. maybe thats intended behavior but im guessing it should probably return a more legible error message instead of faulting.
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:29] <magnachef> I belive it's an error with one of your collector plugins
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:08] <punkcut> os.getlogin() exceptions.OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:09] <magnachef> what plugin was displayed before this error
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:21] <punkcut> sorry didnt catch that. lemme replicate.
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:04] <punkcut> i cant really tell which one it is...
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:12] <punkcut> or can i?
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:46] <magnachef> it should list the plugins it's going through
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:09] <punkcut> it does but the error pops up about the same time it spontaneously spews forth every module
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:19] <punkcut> 2008-06-03 04:21:59 WARNING zen.ZenModeler Reconnected to ZenHub
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:32] <punkcut> right about there. and then it throws the rest of the log
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:52] <punkcut> from the look of the traceback though id take a stab at this one - 2008-06-03 04:22:00 INFO zen.ZenModeler using ssh collection device puppetmaster.localdomain
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:19] <magnachef> hmmm...not sure exactly. I had an issue similar to this and just had to remove a collector plugin that wasn't working
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:28] <magnachef> nice, I see you're running puppet ;-)
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <punkcut> :-)
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:57] <punkcut> i do however plan on using the ssh collector plugin
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:10] <punkcut> we are running an internal app which is going to need to be monitored using some simple scripts
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:26] <magnachef> the issues seems to be that it's failing to log in, and the collector is getting null data, and throwing an error about it
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:40] <magnachef> you should post to the forums
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:45] <punkcut> agreed, which is why im assuming its because my ssh creds are NULL.
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:54] <punkcut> one way to confirm. if i can confirm i will file a buggy
[03-Jun-2008 21:01:00] <magnachef> or search through the forums and see if anyone has had this issue before
[03-Jun-2008 21:09:15] <cbleach> are you using key or password authentication?
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[03-Jun-2008 22:01:26] <cbleach> I had a similar problem with 1.x version of Zenoss when using a key with required a password.
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[04-Jun-2008 00:11:51] <jcesario> I have a quick question? what is the default password for the zenoss user on the OS level?
[04-Jun-2008 00:23:11] <ckrough> hello
[04-Jun-2008 00:42:57] <ckrough> .win 1
[04-Jun-2008 01:10:26] <punkcut> I have a quick question? what is the default password for the zenoss user on the OS level?
[04-Jun-2008 01:13:24] * charlieS doesn't think one is set.. just su to zenoss as root
[04-Jun-2008 01:17:28] <punkcut> then you bypass
[04-Jun-2008 01:17:40] <punkcut> there is most definitely a password set. look at the entry for zenoss in /etc/shadow
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[04-Jun-2008 09:04:40] <stintel> good morning / timezone all
[04-Jun-2008 09:05:52] <stintel> is there any way to make Zenoss ignore loop mounted isos ?
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[04-Jun-2008 11:52:43] <mib_698587> Why my CENTOS 5.1 and Ver. 2.2 have a problem with the zenoss user?
[04-Jun-2008 11:53:12] <mib_698587> I can't do nothing with that user, it is giving me a "Permission Denied"
[04-Jun-2008 12:17:01] <tarjei> hi, does zenoss run it's own syslog daemon that collects logging?
[04-Jun-2008 12:17:14] <tarjei> If, so, is it set up in the basic configuration=
[04-Jun-2008 12:26:19] <nemo> i suggest you read the admin guide ? but yes it does
[04-Jun-2008 12:36:26] <mib_698587> is there away to backup my coollected devices with their configuration in order to do a re-install?
[04-Jun-2008 12:36:59] <mib_698587> somehow, my zenoss user does not work...it gets permission denied in every command
[04-Jun-2008 12:46:55] <pitillo> mib_698587, take a look to the directory where you installed zenoss and check owner and permissions
[04-Jun-2008 12:47:55] <pitillo> # ls -la /usr/share/zenoss/
[04-Jun-2008 12:47:55] <pitillo> drwxr-xr-x 19 zenoss zenoss 528 Jun 2 15:56 .
[04-Jun-2008 12:48:51] <pitillo> this is my case, check your $ZENHOME dir
[04-Jun-2008 12:57:39] <mib_698587> are yoyu still there
[04-Jun-2008 13:02:49] <pitillo> this is irc... if you don't see a nick leaving, I think we are here (may be people is busy, be patient)
[04-Jun-2008 13:04:15] <mib_698587> sure will
[04-Jun-2008 13:05:04] <mib_698587> ls -la /usr/share/zenoss/ gave me nothing at the prompt....no such file or directory
[04-Jun-2008 13:05:31] <mib_698587> this is a centOS 5.1 install, maybe paths are different
[04-Jun-2008 13:06:06] <mib_698587> zenoss user has not rights to anything..
[04-Jun-2008 13:06:42] <mib_698587> would be better to do a re-install? and If I do...how do I keep my devices and their configuration?
[04-Jun-2008 13:07:03] <pitillo> mib_698587, that is why I told you that path was in my case. Take a look to your $ZENHOME dir and check permissions and the owner
[04-Jun-2008 13:08:20] <pitillo> (I think I can't help too much, here I used the source and patched to my needs)
[04-Jun-2008 13:09:31] <pitillo> but I think it musn't be so hard, try to locate zenos installation dir and check what I told you. I hope someone can read this and if he's using centos installation can give you a clue in the case I am making you wasting your time checking things that must be done automatically in centos installations
[04-Jun-2008 13:10:23] <mib_698587> that was my point about re-installing, where I do not want to continue investing time on something that is flawed to begin with
[04-Jun-2008 13:11:07] <pitillo> well, think that may be that solution (re-installing) will point you at the same point you are now
[04-Jun-2008 13:11:26] <mib_698587> I am really dissapointed of this version...it was going so well...and today was my presentation to my staff...and now I have nothing
[04-Jun-2008 13:12:08] <pitillo> I am waiting to present my installation to my boss... but he seems isn't too much interested xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:12:52] <mib_698587> it does not seem to be so common what is happening to me as I can not find much info on the forums
[04-Jun-2008 13:13:32] <mib_698587> well yesterday my big boss looked over my shoulder and he was pretty impressed...but now I do have concerns about going forward
[04-Jun-2008 13:13:34] <pitillo> btw, I think it's a good app (using nagios and cacti here too) that can be tunned to our needs easily (and I only setup my network and some locations, only some snmp checks and not much more, next step is seting up alerts related to some servers and net devices)
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:20] <pitillo> mib_698587, I think you are missing some linux knowledge (may be I am in wrong, but that was my impression about file permissions bits)
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:44] <mib_698587> that is where the gola was...setup alerts an Email notification and that way we could do away with $40k support service
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:52] <mib_698587> gola=goal
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:59] <pitillo> lol 40K
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:00] <mib_698587> pitillo=straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:00] <pitillo> xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:18] <pitillo> straw?
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:34] <mib_698587> pitillo is spanish for straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:38] <mib_698587> drinking straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:02] <pitillo> nop
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:13] <pitillo> pitillo=cigarrette
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:23] <pitillo> smoking pitillos xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:59] <mib_698587> bet you did not know that
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:20] <mib_698587> italian..right
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:34] <pitillo> yeah, I didn't know the meaning of straw... Here we call cigarretes straw too
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:43] <pitillo> mib_698587, nop, I'm spaniard
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:56] <mib_698587> espania
[04-Jun-2008 13:18:03] <mib_698587> Colombia
[04-Jun-2008 13:18:59] <mib_698587> My sister in-law is from Spain...YIKES !!
[04-Jun-2008 13:19:31] <pitillo>
[04-Jun-2008 13:21:11] <mib_698587> asturias
[04-Jun-2008 13:21:49] <pitillo> north of spain... good fish there
[04-Jun-2008 13:23:34] <mib_698587> so I hear
[04-Jun-2008 13:23:48] <mib_698587> I hope one day I could visit
[04-Jun-2008 13:24:03] <mib_698587> I love Mariscos....PAELLA
[04-Jun-2008 13:24:45] <pitillo> xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:25:03] <pitillo> well, I don't want to seem rude, but may be this talk isn't welcome here
[04-Jun-2008 13:29:43] <mib_698587> sure...be rude..
[04-Jun-2008 13:30:03] <mib_698587> we are probably the only one within 2 hours
[04-Jun-2008 13:32:23] <pitillo> yeah, but think this is a channel related to zenoss, not related to our things
[04-Jun-2008 13:32:47] <pitillo> may be you can create another one called zenoss-ot to talk with people from the comunity about things off topic to this channel
[04-Jun-2008 13:33:01] <pitillo> it's some kind of policy and politness
[04-Jun-2008 13:42:39] <mib_698587> well then...back to bussiness
[04-Jun-2008 13:44:54] <mib_698587> I am trying to uninstall and I can't find the uninstall the string by using "rpm -e zenoss"....weird
[04-Jun-2008 13:46:37] <pitillo> mib_698587, I think you are going from bad to worse... have you tried to look for the zenoss installation directory and check what I said?
[04-Jun-2008 13:55:48] <twm1010> Morning.
[04-Jun-2008 13:56:21] <pitillo> hey
[04-Jun-2008 13:57:36] <twm1010> Has anyone had their device list stop functioning?
[04-Jun-2008 13:58:54] <pitillo> twm1010, well this morning I had it (all classes btw, not only devices) Reading the error report in my case solved the problem (problem with mysql passwd)
[04-Jun-2008 13:59:27] <pitillo> not sure if this is related to your error
[04-Jun-2008 13:59:47] <twm1010> Mine happened with the 2.2 upgrade
[04-Jun-2008 14:00:03] <twm1010> The device list will only show devices that you have looked at the status page for
[04-Jun-2008 14:00:43] <pitillo> twm1010, I have a fresh 2.2.0 install here, but seems my error was another issue not related to yours, sorry.
[04-Jun-2008 14:02:15] <twm1010> doh! thanks anyway
[04-Jun-2008 14:34:29] <pitillo> ummm I have a little question, I am monitoring a cisco router with snmp and I want to know if is it possible to make a graf of 1 interface (I want to see trunk usage).
[04-Jun-2008 14:35:11] <pitillo> sorry if it's explained at guide (I haven't finished it yet)
[04-Jun-2008 14:35:54] <pitillo> I think I need more reading before asking things.
[04-Jun-2008 14:43:39] <pitillo> pfff there is an entire section dedicated to graphs.... sorry
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:15] <twm1010> pitillo
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:23] <twm1010> just hit the os tab, and click on the interface
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:29] <jb> twm, do you know much about snmp?
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:57] <twm1010> Not intricately, but i know the basics
[04-Jun-2008 14:58:44] <twm1010> What are you after?
[04-Jun-2008 15:09:55] <jb> just trying to figure out some OID's
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:03] <jb> f5 is telling me this
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:09] <jb> TMM Mem Usage
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:10] <jb> sysStatMemoryUsed (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45)
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:14] <jb> so
[04-Jun-2008 15:11:04] <pitillo> omg twm1010, thank you very much. Was easier than I was thinking...
[04-Jun-2008 15:11:37] <pitillo> nice, all it's being graphed then
[04-Jun-2008 15:12:06] <twm1010> Yep
[04-Jun-2008 15:12:16] <twm1010> jb: ok and?
[04-Jun-2008 15:13:50] <jb> ok so
[04-Jun-2008 15:13:51] <jb> sysHostMemoryUsed (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.7.2)
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~$ snmpwalk -c fcsnmp1ro -v 1 bigip .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.7.2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.2.1 = INTEGER: 0
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:12] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.2.2 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:19] <jb> i would have thought it would return one integer
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:34] <nemo_> no .string !
[04-Jun-2008 15:16:14] <jb> hm?
[04-Jun-2008 15:17:45] <twm1010> well clearly there are values below that in the tree, do you have the MIB?
[04-Jun-2008 15:20:23] <jb> yeah
[04-Jun-2008 15:20:57] <twm1010> And what does it say the values below that are?
[04-Jun-2008 15:21:03] <twm1010> maybe they're a detailed breakdown
[04-Jun-2008 15:24:19] <magnachef> has anyone experience major system degradation after adding the zenoss.snmp.hrSWInstalledMap collector?
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:27] <jb> ok
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:38] <jb> i think one problem is i need to use v2c
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:43] <jb> and i think zenoss is querying using 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:31:16] <jb> wonder if there is a way to change this?
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:31] <pitillo> jb, I changed yesterday in settings menu and there in commands, editting the snmp query
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:34] <magnachef> zProperties at that class
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:41] <mib_698587> Can anyone help me set my path straight for the Zenoss user, everything I do with it is permission denied....I am using zenoss 2.2
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:01] <pitillo> (if someone can tell a better way to do that I can be glad too)
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:17] <magnachef> jb: change the zSnmpVer to 2c for that class
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:20] <mib_698587> or maybe help me to uninstall and save my devices
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:26] <pitillo> magnachef, oh that's nice. I didn't think on that (btw, here we are using v2c in all snmp)
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:49] <magnachef> yeah, I have a mix
[04-Jun-2008 15:35:03] <jb> thanks
[04-Jun-2008 15:36:38] <pitillo> it's good to know and think in z-properties better than changing it in a general way. Thank you for that tip. Taking note
[04-Jun-2008 15:36:59] <magnachef> yep
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:33] <jb> arg
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:34] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "TMM Mem Usage" on fc-f5-03.follett.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45 is bad)
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:36] <jb> this is bs
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:49] <mib_698587> there is a z-property for each devices, they are applied inheritanly but could be changed at the local level
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:05] <magnachef> it can be at the device or class level
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:11] <jb> Executing command against fc-f5-03.follett.com
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45.0 = Counter64: 23890444
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:12] <jb> DONE in 0 seconds
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:24] <jb> why the hell is it saying it's a bad OID
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:14] <magnachef> because you don't have the .0 at the end of the OID
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:27] <magnachef> I'm guessing
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:45] <mib_698587> you could get bad oids messages if your thesholds are being exceeded...weird, but that how it is with me
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:52] <jb> no thresholds
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:04] <mib_698587> that is all I got
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:24] <jb> ok
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:25] <jb> it was the .0
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:28] <jb> thanks magnachef
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:28] <mib_698587> can anyone help me uninstall 2.2 and save my devices at the same time?
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:29] <jb> ok now we are gettign somewhere
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:37] <jb> mib: good luck with that
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:51] <jb> you can try a zenbackup
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:54] <jb> install 2.1.x
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:56] <jb> then zenrestore
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:58] <jb> then zenmigrate
[04-Jun-2008 15:42:00] <jb> and it MIGHT work
[04-Jun-2008 15:42:19] <mib_698587> I need to unistall, my zenoss user is not working..I am not able to install MIBS
[04-Jun-2008 15:42:38] <jb> whats the error?
[04-Jun-2008 15:43:03] <mib_698587> when I type #su zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 15:43:25] <mib_698587> it gives me #bash-3.1: permission denied
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:06] <jb> what makes you think thats a zenoss issue?
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:08] <mib_698587> I have been using this install for 6 days and I just notice this
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:13] <jb> its obviously a problem with your .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:27] <jb> cat ~zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:28] <jb> and paste
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:31] <mib_698587> because is the zenoss user trying to setup the enviroment
[04-Jun-2008 15:48:48] <jb> ..
[04-Jun-2008 15:52:41] <mib_698587> I am tryng to get you the information..
[04-Jun-2008 15:52:53] <mib_698587> it is ain another linux machine..
[04-Jun-2008 15:53:24] <mib_698587> I am trying to set up ssh so I could get the screen output
[04-Jun-2008 15:53:39] <mib_698587> thank you
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:07] <mib_698587> [root@localhost ~]# cat ~zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:27] <mib_698587> # .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:39] <mib_698587> # Source global definitions
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:51] <mib_698587> if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:05] <mib_698587> . /etc/bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:17] <mib_698587> fi
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:30] <mib_698587> # User specific aliases and functions
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:43] <mib_698587> export ZENHOME="/opt/zenoss"
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:53] <mib_698587> export PATH="${ZENHOME}/bin:${PATH}"
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:01] <magnachef> do: ls -la ~zenoss/
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:06] <mib_698587> export PYTHONPATH="/opt/zenoss/lib/python"
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:22] <mib_698587> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/zenoss/lib"
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:34] <mib_698587> . /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh[root@localhost ~]#
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:46] <mib_698587> [root@localhost ~]# # .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:49] <mib_698587> that is it
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:04] <jb> its probably permissions on /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh ..
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:10] <jb> can you run that?
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:14] <mib_698587> drwx------ 2 1337 zenoss 4096 May 20 09:36 .
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:28] <jb> on /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:33] <mib_698587> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 15 09:49 ..
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:54] <mib_698587> what do you want me to do?
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:59] <jb> try running /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:03] <jb> as zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:31] <mib_698587> when I try to run as Zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:37] <mib_698587> this is what I get:
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:39] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/.bashrc: Permission denied
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:57] <jb> well there you go..
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:06] <jb> uhm
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:06] <mib_698587> ?
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:17] <jb> its permissions on .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:38] <mib_698587> the only reason I discovered this is because I wanted to install mibs via command line
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:48] <mib_698587> how do I fix that?
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:58] <mib_698587> let save the why...for later
[04-Jun-2008 16:02:26] <jb> chown zenoss:zenoss ~zenoss/.bashrc && chmod 644 ~zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:02:33] <jb> as root.
[04-Jun-2008 16:03:53] <mib_698587> I still get the same message
[04-Jun-2008 16:03:54] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/.bashrc: Permission denied
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:03] <jb> ls -la /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:14] <jb> you really aren't giving much info
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:14] <magnachef> I wonder if it's the permissions of the entire home dir
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:24] <jb> could be..
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:28] <jb> check them all
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:44] <mib_698587> I know..I am actually really good since I am a linux noobie
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:59] <mib_698587> that is why I wanted to uninstall
[04-Jun-2008 16:05:11] <mib_698587> save my devices and restart all over
[04-Jun-2008 16:05:17] <jb> if your parent permissions are messed up, a reinstall won't fix anything.
[04-Jun-2008 16:05:44] <mib_698587> I want to do away with everything zenoss and do a clean install
[04-Jun-2008 16:08:42] <mib_698587> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 311 May 20 09:36 /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:22] <mib_698587> are you using centOS 5.1
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:26] <jb> yes
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:43] <jb> chmod +x it
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:49] <jb> and try to run it as zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 16:11:51] <mib_698587> chmod +x..is that the whole command
[04-Jun-2008 16:13:00] Lego_ is now known as Lego
[04-Jun-2008 16:14:30] <mib_698587> how would you about uninstalling>:
[04-Jun-2008 16:15:07] <mib_698587> I am not able to find the installation..using RPM
[04-Jun-2008 16:32:30] <mib_698587> While reinstalling Zenoss using the stack install...mysql asks for user and password..it this the root user?
[04-Jun-2008 16:33:08] <nemo_> no
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> # Poll OID sysTcpStatAccepts (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.12.6) twice, at a 10-second interval.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> This results in two values, <sysTcpStatAccepts1> and <sysTcpStatAccepts2>.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> Note: Although this example uses an interval of ten seconds, the interval can actually be any duration that you choose.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> # Calculate the delta of the two poll values:
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> <DeltaTcpStatAccepts> = <sysTcpStatAccepts2> - <sysTcpStatAccepts1>
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:26] <jb> # Calculate the value of the Client Accepts graph metric using the calculation shown in Table 14.6 (<DeltaTcpStatAccepts> / <interval>), where the value of <interval> is 10.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:29] <jb> wonder how hard this would be?
[04-Jun-2008 16:42:01] <twm1010> jb
[04-Jun-2008 16:42:16] <twm1010> Zenoss there are other datasource types for your performance collectors
[04-Jun-2008 16:42:28] <twm1010> there is one that tracks the change in a value
[04-Jun-2008 16:44:19] <twm1010> yeah, there it is, derive type
[04-Jun-2008 16:44:52] <twm1010> Though, I'm not sure how you would get it to poll twice in 10 seconds, and then again at the regular interval
[04-Jun-2008 16:45:44] <twm1010> or if you'd want to for that matter
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:19] <jb> yeah
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:31] <jb> ok so derive type
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:41] <jb> basically im wanting to graph connections per second
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:55] <jb> i'll play with it
[04-Jun-2008 16:53:49] <twm1010> well
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:00] <twm1010> just change the adjustment then on the graph
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:11] <twm1010> take the change, divide it by your interval for graphing purposes
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:33] <twm1010> but the larger your interval, the less accurate
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:50] <twm1010> well perhaps not less accurate, just less detail
[04-Jun-2008 16:55:39] <jb> how do you adjust the type of graph again.. my graphs are just using lines, and not filling the entire area
[04-Jun-2008 16:55:43] <jb> know what im sayin?
[04-Jun-2008 16:57:02] <jb> ah never mind
[04-Jun-2008 16:57:03] <jb> found it
[04-Jun-2008 18:21:15] <punkcut> magnachef, ping!
[04-Jun-2008 18:21:24] <magnachef> pong punk
[04-Jun-2008 18:21:38] <magnachef> how goes it?!
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:05] <punkcut> good. just had our first demo of zenoss with the higher ups.
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:16] <punkcut> they are extremely pleased. I have to say, it really is powerful.
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:26] <magnachef> nice...did you get the software tab working?
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:27] <punkcut> its just incredibly unintuitive.
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:43] <punkcut> magnachef, I did. and that traceback was related to having the ssh login creds being null
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:57] <punkcut> magnachef, thanks so much for the help.
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:21] <magnachef> I enabled the hrSWInstalledMap collector plugin yesterday, but noticed that shortly after, my load increased greatly on the server
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:26] <magnachef> no problem :-)
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:37] <punkcut> on your zenoss server or on the client?
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:49] <magnachef> on my server
[04-Jun-2008 18:24:05] <punkcut> magnachef, and was it sustained? or just during the collection/modeling period?
[04-Jun-2008 18:24:21] <magnachef> not sure how many devices you have, but it was sustained until I removed it
[04-Jun-2008 18:24:35] <punkcut> most likely our device count is going to peak around 500
[04-Jun-2008 18:25:11] <magnachef> that's about where I'm at...I am monitoring my server via Cacti and Zenoss and noticed a high memory usage, load, and disk IO
[04-Jun-2008 18:25:31] <magnachef> ...in addition to slowdown of the interface
[04-Jun-2008 18:26:12] <punkcut> what kind of hardware are you running your zenoss box on?
[04-Jun-2008 18:26:18] <magnachef> I haven't really figured out where the issue was exactly, but just something to keep in mind
[04-Jun-2008 18:26:55] <magnachef> IBM 336
[04-Jun-2008 18:27:08] <mib_698587> what is the password for MYSQL at the time of install for version 2.2?
[04-Jun-2008 18:27:20] <magnachef> 2 3Ghz Xeon's
[04-Jun-2008 18:27:54] <punkcut> magnachef, is it the db or is it something about the zabbix procesS?
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:06] <punkcut> magnachef, if its the db i might be able to help.
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:08] <magnachef> 2 Gigs of memory
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:24] <magnachef> zabbix, you mean zenoss? ;-P
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:30] <punkcut> zenoss, sorry
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:35] <magnachef> seems like memory
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:36] <punkcut> too many z monitoring systems.
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:45] <punkcut> I would guess because all the db tables are innodb
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:48] <punkcut> which is a memory hog
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:50] <magnachef> probably something to do with Zope
[04-Jun-2008 18:29:05] <punkcut> if you log into mysql. you can see what innodb is using with "SHOW ENGINE INNODB STATUS\G"
[04-Jun-2008 18:29:18] <punkcut> '\G is pure preference but i prefer its output.
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:24] <punkcut> look to see if the free memory in the buffer pool is at 0
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:50] <punkcut> Total memory allocated 18577806; in additional pool allocated 1048448
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Buffer pool size 512
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Free buffers 313
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Database pages 198
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Modified db pages 3
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Pending reads 0
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:09] <magnachef> free buffers 1
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:19] <punkcut> sounds like you need to allocate some more memory
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:33] <punkcut> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/innodb-configuration.html
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:37] <punkcut> theres the doc page
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:40] <magnachef> buffer pool hit rate 1000/1000
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:46] <punkcut> thats really good
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:48] <adytum-bot> Title: MySQL :: MySQL 5.0 Reference Manual :: 13.2.3 InnoDB Configuration (at dev.mysql.com)
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:02] <magnachef> Total memory allocated 18907646
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:11] <punkcut> innodb_buffer_pool_size
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:12] <magnachef> in additional pool allocated 1048448
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:17] <punkcut> thats the option that really matters
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:48] <punkcut> increase that and innodb has a lot more allocated memory for indices. even though it will try and grab more memory from the system. youll still get better performance by allocating it.
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:03] <magnachef> I know python was hogging a lot of memory and resources during the degradation
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:19] <magnachef> good to know
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:37] <punkcut> also, check to see if you have any of the myisam buffers assigned
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:47] <punkcut> they are turned on by default, and might be stealing a lot of valuable memory away from innodb
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:13] <punkcut> you can basically turn your myISAM key buffer down to like 8MB as long as you dont have any myISAM tables.
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:23] <punkcut> it still like to have _something_ though.
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:45] <punkcut> \u events; SHOW TABLE STATUS;
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:59] <punkcut> should give you a good overview of some good stats for the zenoss db
[04-Jun-2008 18:36:56] <punkcut> zope does use a considerable amount of memory from what I see, but just a fresh db with one device has used close to 200MB of my innodb buffers
[04-Jun-2008 18:38:24] <magnachef> don't see anything about myisam
[04-Jun-2008 18:38:53] <punkcut> yah the zenoss db is pure Inno from what i saw in 2.2
[04-Jun-2008 18:46:02] <magnachef> I don't seem to see my "/etc/my.cnf" config
[04-Jun-2008 18:47:16] <magnachef> does the mysql that comes with Zenoss put it elsewhere
[04-Jun-2008 18:47:25] <punkcut> it depends on which rpm
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:20] <punkcut> did you use the zenoss-stack package by any chance?
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:21] <magnachef> centos 5.0.24a
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:31] <punkcut> ps aux | grep my.cnf
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:39] <punkcut> it should show up in the process line for mysql
[04-Jun-2008 18:50:59] <magnachef> surprisingly, not...mysql is running, but no my.cnf in the command
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:12] <punkcut> interesting...
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:16] <magnachef> I do have the my.cnf.rpmsave, but that's it
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:26] <punkcut> if /etc/my.cnf doesnt exist then. its running off its internal defaults
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:28] <magnachef> in /etc
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:36] <magnachef> gotcha
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:59] <punkcut> i used the zenoss-stack 2.2 rpm on centos 5.1
[04-Jun-2008 18:52:01] <magnachef> ok, so I just need to modify the my.cnf.rpmnew
[04-Jun-2008 18:52:07] <punkcut> and its in /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/my.cnf
[04-Jun-2008 18:53:41] <magnachef> ok, mine is in /opt/zenoss/etc/my.cnf
[04-Jun-2008 18:54:33] <magnachef> innodb_buffer_pool_size = 256M
[04-Jun-2008 18:54:48] <magnachef> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 20M
[04-Jun-2008 18:55:01] <magnachef> those must be the defaults
[04-Jun-2008 19:01:38] <magnachef> I may need to up the amount of physical memory in this server
[04-Jun-2008 19:02:41] <magnachef> it seems like there's 17Megs of free memory, and it's definitely using swap a good amount
[04-Jun-2008 21:30:08] <jb> twm..
[04-Jun-2008 21:30:19] <jb> btw, AIX's snmpd is nothing like net-snmp
[04-Jun-2008 21:31:23] <punkcut> magnachef, hows it going?
[04-Jun-2008 21:33:37] <magnachef> not too bad
[04-Jun-2008 21:34:29] <magnachef> using swap like a mo fo!
[04-Jun-2008 21:37:35] <punkcut> thats not good.
[04-Jun-2008 21:37:43] <punkcut> sounds like your system does need that physical memory upgrade.
[04-Jun-2008 21:39:57] <punkcut> magnachef, although something simple you might do which might help a little bit is to stop your mysql server. if you suddenly stop actively using swap and free up a metric ton of memory. go ahead and crank up your innodb buffer and it might not swap next time.
[04-Jun-2008 21:41:32] <magnachef> yeah, I'm thinking about doing a restart of zenoss tonight, just to see if that'll help
[04-Jun-2008 21:41:46] <magnachef> but there is some physical memory about to go in it
[04-Jun-2008 21:41:49] <magnachef> up it to 4 gig
[04-Jun-2008 21:42:41] <punkcut> that sounds perfect.
[04-Jun-2008 21:42:46] <punkcut> id crank your innodb buffer up to 1gb
[04-Jun-2008 21:42:52] <punkcut> if it uses it all, increment by 512mb
[04-Jun-2008 21:43:28] <punkcut> once i learn what kind of queries zenoss uses i can be more specific
[04-Jun-2008 21:43:30] <magnachef> I'm worried about giving it too much, as python seems to pretty much taking up most of the memory
[04-Jun-2008 21:43:41] <punkcut> if mysql is out of memory, its slowing you down.
[04-Jun-2008 21:44:01] <punkcut> cuz itll either go out and make tmp tables (either in memory or on disk depending on settings) or its going to goto swap
[04-Jun-2008 21:44:14] <punkcut> SHOW STATUS LIKE '%tmp%';
[04-Jun-2008 21:44:30] <punkcut> i do share the concern about python though, that zope is a beast.
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:19] <punkcut> i have a question. How difficult is it to make custom graphs for zenoss?
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:34] <magnachef> not bad...depending on what you want to do
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:45] <punkcut> I need to use iptraf to track per-port network usage.
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:56] <punkcut> it dumps the info to text. I need to get that text into zenoss as a graph.
[04-Jun-2008 21:46:01] <punkcut> can you point me to any docs?
[04-Jun-2008 21:46:22] <magnachef> I'd say check out the admin guide
[04-Jun-2008 21:46:37] <magnachef> I haven't done any of that type of graph creation with Zenoss...I have with Cacti though
[04-Jun-2008 21:48:18] <magnachef> check the wiki too
[04-Jun-2008 21:51:13] <magnachef> Created_tmp_files 5
[04-Jun-2008 21:51:21] <magnachef> Created_tmp_tables 1
[04-Jun-2008 21:51:38] <magnachef> Created_tmp_disk_tables 0
[04-Jun-2008 21:56:21] * magnachef thinks that this may be related to zenmodel running
[04-Jun-2008 22:00:59] <magnachef> I saw zenmodler at 1.4G of memory
[04-Jun-2008 22:04:36] <punkcut> wowzas
[04-Jun-2008 22:05:14] <magnachef> yeah, I'm gonna have to make sure that it doesn't run by default, and get that in as a cronjob during the night
[04-Jun-2008 22:08:21] <magnachef> so I'm assuming that when I added the hrSWInstalledMap collector, it was that much more that it was collecting info on
[04-Jun-2008 22:13:39] <punkcut> so the zen modeler runs constantly but doesnt need to?
[04-Jun-2008 22:13:50] <magnachef> seems like it
[04-Jun-2008 22:14:32] <magnachef> that just gets info like new interfaces, disks, packages, etc
[04-Jun-2008 22:14:43] <magnachef> doesn't seem to be linked to polling
[04-Jun-2008 22:14:57] <magnachef> so it basically does a remodel of every device
[04-Jun-2008 22:17:27] <magnachef> well, I'm out for the night
[04-Jun-2008 22:17:47] <magnachef> see ya tomorrow!
[04-Jun-2008 23:58:18] <Zenoss> evening all
[04-Jun-2008 23:59:16] twm1010-osx is now known as Zenoss
[05-Jun-2008 00:00:13] <twm1010-osx> There we go, stupid mac client :|
[05-Jun-2008 00:00:23] [disconnected at Thu Jun 5 00:00:23 2008]
[05-Jun-2008 00:00:24] [connected at Thu Jun 5 00:00:24 2008]
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[05-Jun-2008 00:17:03] <twm1010-osx> Could someone point me in the right direction on where you configure default DNS search suffixes in Linux?
[05-Jun-2008 02:30:08] <cbleach1> What daemons need to be running on a performance collector?
[05-Jun-2008 03:01:34] <twm1010-osx> just a collector?
[05-Jun-2008 03:01:47] <twm1010-osx> whatever is in the zenoss-plugins package
[05-Jun-2008 03:08:07] <cbleach1> So you can run a zenmodeler for every collector?
[05-Jun-2008 03:08:34] <cbleach1> and it will just model the devices that are assigned to that collector?
[05-Jun-2008 04:12:09] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - TX-Theory - 05 Jun, 01:05AM
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[05-Jun-2008 05:24:58] <troy42> twm1010-osx: if nobody said, /etc/resolv.conf
[05-Jun-2008 05:25:03] <troy42> just seeing your msg now
[05-Jun-2008 05:34:27] <lahirup> I receive this on event console: WMI connect error on SVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[05-Jun-2008 05:35:03] <lahirup> is there anyone who is familiar with this error
[05-Jun-2008 06:56:18] <[AH]iggi> hello, I am new to zenoss, I have zenoss running but I have a few questions on configuring a device I am monitoring can anyone help me?
[05-Jun-2008 06:58:37] <DarkMats> Just ask. If anyone know. They will help
[05-Jun-2008 06:59:49] <[AH]iggi> Well I have it connected to a switch and the switch has multiple port and she show up as FastEthernet0/1 FastEthernet0/2 etc. is there a way I can label them to indicate whats connected to each port
[05-Jun-2008 07:00:22] <[AH]iggi> excuse my bad grammar it's 3 am here
[05-Jun-2008 07:02:35] <DarkMats> Ah, if you find that out, let me know. Been thinking about that too
[05-Jun-2008 07:02:47] <[AH]iggi> yeah
[05-Jun-2008 07:03:27] <[AH]iggi> then I want to create a user and allow the user to see the status of only one port i.e. a dedicated server customer to see ONLY his bandwidth usage
[05-Jun-2008 08:58:13] <MrTux> [AH]iggi: that's only possible with the enterprise version imho
[05-Jun-2008 10:22:01] <linash> hi,
[05-Jun-2008 10:22:07] <linash> is there a way to collect net-snmp 'extend' oids? because since the oid use a string index (eg: 1.3.6.1.4.1.8072.1.3.2.3.1.4.'"extendName"' ) Zenoss doesn't accept them...
[05-Jun-2008 10:57:34] <nemo_> known issue, no known solution
[05-Jun-2008 10:57:44] <nemo_> maybe zenoss 3.x will deal with it better
[05-Jun-2008 10:58:58] <linash> ok, thx.
[05-Jun-2008 12:24:27] <ccesario> morning!
[05-Jun-2008 12:27:54] <nemo_> hai!
[05-Jun-2008 12:31:48] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 12:41:47] <ccesario> Somebody have install the last zenoss in opensuse ?
[05-Jun-2008 12:58:01] <nemo_> anyone using LDAP ?
[05-Jun-2008 12:58:05] <nemo_> for user logins
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:01] <ccesario> I installed the last zenoss from svn in OpenSuse-10.3
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:08] <ccesario> the install is ok
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:18] <ccesario> but when I create one device
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:21] <ccesario> I get this error
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:23] <ccesario> http://pastebin.com/m27209f61
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:35] <ccesario> somebody have any idea?
[05-Jun-2008 13:17:21] <pitillo> ccesario, I am new to this, not sure if I can help, but are you discovering manually a device?
[05-Jun-2008 13:18:22] <pitillo> sorry, I saw you add it, not discovered
[05-Jun-2008 13:19:15] <ccesario> pitillo, I try add manually and (this host is ok)
[05-Jun-2008 13:21:00] <pitillo> ccesario, yes sorry, I missreaded your question. I thought you were discovering 1 device instead of adding it. Sorry.
[05-Jun-2008 13:21:15] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 13:51:47] <ccesario> any developer ?
[05-Jun-2008 13:52:39] <twm1010> I don't know that I've seen the developers in here, usually just some support people and community.
[05-Jun-2008 13:52:55] <jb> they used to hang out in here..
[05-Jun-2008 13:52:57] <jb> long ago
[05-Jun-2008 13:53:18] <ccesario> twm1010, http://pastebin.com/m27209f61 idea about this error ?
[05-Jun-2008 13:55:16] <twm1010> Try adding the device without SNMP
[05-Jun-2008 13:55:19] <twm1010> then model it
[05-Jun-2008 13:55:23] <twm1010> i've had to do that before
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:06] <ccesario> twm1010, without snmp its work
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:22] <ccesario> but this work in previous zenoss version
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:23] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:34] <twm1010> Well sure, just trying to help you figure out what part is breaking it.
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:37] <ccesario> ehehehe
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:39] <ccesario> yes yes
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:40] <ccesario> I know
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:41] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:44] <ccesario> thanks
[05-Jun-2008 14:03:00] <twm1010> Now see if a re-model crashes it
[05-Jun-2008 14:06:12] <ccesario> twm1010, no no
[05-Jun-2008 14:06:16] <ccesario> when I re-model
[05-Jun-2008 14:06:18] <ccesario> its ok
[05-Jun-2008 14:07:02] <twm1010> Well, let's call that a workaround. See if it does it with similar devices, perhaps one of the collectors caused it
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:03] <linash__> nemo_, I found a workaround for the net-snmp extends issue. Do you know if there is a ticket for this so I can post it there?
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:25] <nemo_> no idea linash_
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:35] <nemo_> post it to the forum pls !
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:43] <nemo_> so we can find it publicly
[05-Jun-2008 14:13:44] <jb> the forums haven't proved to be very helpful lately unfortuantly
[05-Jun-2008 14:13:55] <ccesario> twm1010, I think this is a bug
[05-Jun-2008 14:13:57] <ccesario> O-o
[05-Jun-2008 14:15:56] <twm1010> I never could pin mine down.
[05-Jun-2008 14:16:00] <twm1010> it came and went
[05-Jun-2008 14:16:05] <twm1010> sometimes a restart of Zenoss would clear it
[05-Jun-2008 14:16:39] <twm1010> jb: i suggest to matt that they work up some kind of customer facing knowledgebase of solutions
[05-Jun-2008 14:18:46] <jb> yea
[05-Jun-2008 14:19:38] <twm1010> It's kind of difficult though, to separate solutions from bugs in the program
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:15] <nemo_> resources !
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:28] <nemo_> zenoss is a hungry beast
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:33] <twm1010> Indeed...
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:42] <nemo_> i added a 16gb swapfile today to try and temporarily satisfy
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> total used free shared buffers cached
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> Mem: 8175256 8127388 47868 0 19540 2057852
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> -/+ buffers/cache: 6049996 2125260
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> Swap: 23192924 7190940 16001984
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:57] <twm1010> My original appliance was monitoring 20 devices w/1GB ram... I left it that way even after I ramped up to 180 devices...
[05-Jun-2008 14:23:06] <twm1010> allocated another 1.5GB and now its smoking
[05-Jun-2008 14:23:14] <twm1010> though I think the appliance comes with a 128MB swap
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:09] <twm1010> How many devices are you monitoring nemo?
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:26] <nemo_> ~2000
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:38] <jb> i was doing ~100 devices with 2GB of ram
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:44] <jb> im running on 8GB now tho
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:55] <jb> ~2000 with 2GB?
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:57] <jb> oh, you definetely need more
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:02] <twm1010> looks like 8GB to me
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:02] <nemo_> 2gb ram ?
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:03] <nemo_>
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:05] <nemo_> hehe
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:18] <nemo_> its 8 gb ram + 20 gb ofg swap ish
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:23] <jb> oh
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:28] <jb> didnt even see that
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:31] <twm1010> crikey... and this is the only server?
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:37] <jb> damn
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:37] <nemo_> moving perf jobs to collectors soon
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:39] <jb> 7GB of swap?
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:46] <jb> yeah you are swapping quite a bit
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:47] <nemo_> 20gb of swap
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:51] <nemo_> ;p
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:52] <jb> yeah but you are using 7GB
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:04] <nemo_> 7gb of swap in use
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:08] <nemo_> yah
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:23] <jb> you guys monitoring any cisco switches?
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:36] <nemo_> 16:27:15 up 3 days, 2:59, 6 users, load average: 0.05, 0.26, 0.35
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:47] <nemo_> so the box is doing well on the extra memory, not suffering
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:59] <nemo_> yes lots of switches
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:06] <nemo_> WMI/perfsnmp
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:10] <jb> what info are you able to model?
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:14] <nemo_> everything
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:19] <jb> is it populating Serial #, etc?
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb> Tag #
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb> Serial #
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb> HW Make
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:37] <jb> Cisco
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:39] <jb> HW Model
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:41] <jb> 37xxStack
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:43] <jb> OS Make
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:45] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:47] <jb> OS Version
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:49] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:53] <jb> thats all im getting
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:55] <jb> maybe cause this is a stack
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:30] <nemo_> yes mostly
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:37] <nemo_> yeh i get stack details too
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:39] <jb> so youa re getting serial/os info?
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:44] <nemo_> if its there
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:51] <twm1010> let me see what i get here
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:17] <jb> i want to monitor some ASA's too
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:21] <nemo_> sometimes the modeller needs more passes
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:35] <twm1010> I get same thing as you jb
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:47] <jb> what about any performance collectors for cisco
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:48] <jb> cpu, etc
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:52] <twm1010> those work
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:01] <jb> mine shows nothing
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:02] <jb> no graphs
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:09] <jb> is there a zenpack or something?
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:25] <twm1010> no, perhaps your SNMP is setup a little tighter on the device itself?
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:39] <twm1010> i got 6509's and 37xx series... both working fine
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:52] <jb> hm snmp read only is completely open to this host
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:00] <twm1010> odd
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:10] <twm1010> what version SNMP for that device class?
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:16] <jb> that culd be it.
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:17] <jb> probably 1
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:20] <jb> what about you
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:34] <jb> yep, 1
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:50] <twm1010> v1 here
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:16] <nemo_> v1
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:18] <nemo_> easy
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:23] <jb> argh
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:32] <nemo_> check snmp bugs for v2
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:39] <nemo_> i thought i saw something bout that
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:43] <twm1010> mrayzenoss: An update was made available for the appliance last night, what was it?
[05-Jun-2008 14:34:40] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I don't know, I'll ask
[05-Jun-2008 14:35:15] <jb> well i dont have a template with graphs defined on /Devices/Network/Switch
[05-Jun-2008 14:35:18] <jb> which are you guys using?
[05-Jun-2008 14:36:14] <twm1010> one sec
[05-Jun-2008 14:36:40] <twm1010> plain ole "device" template is bound there
[05-Jun-2008 14:37:30] <twm1010> ahh... sorry there... no, i don't get graphs from my switches
[05-Jun-2008 14:37:51] <twm1010> I forgot that my two core switches are in place as "routers", and are in another device class
[05-Jun-2008 14:38:27] <jb> ah ok
[05-Jun-2008 14:38:59] <jb> so your routers are getting performance graphs (non ethernet)?
[05-Jun-2008 14:38:59] <twm1010> I'm going to make a sub-class for Cisco switches and copy the template from the routers over ot there, i doubt they use different OIDs
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:03] <twm1010> yes
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:10] <twm1010> i get cpu, memory, and then each interface
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:16] <jb> ah ok I see the template now
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:19] <jb> im gonna try to copy it over
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:49] <jb> you have any cisco mibs loaded?
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:00] <twm1010> yeah, damn near all of them
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:07] <jb> where did you get them?
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:10] <jb> cisco's site?
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:41] <twm1010> no... I got them from the mib warehouse or something like that, i payed a small fee and got access to thousands of mibs or something like that
[05-Jun-2008 14:41:06] <twm1010> the Cisco one had a lot it seemed decently up to date, i figured load everything and if something is missing get that direct from cisco
[05-Jun-2008 14:42:00] <jb> wonder if it has the firewall/asa/pix stuff
[05-Jun-2008 14:42:38] <twm1010> i still have access to it, i could send it to you
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:23] <jb> ok i copied the router template
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:27] <jb> looks like it will work once we have some data
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:31] <jb> twm1010: would you mind?
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:43] <twm1010> sure give me a few minutes... i need to redownload a lot of those anyway
[05-Jun-2008 14:44:06] <jb> thanks
[05-Jun-2008 14:51:58] <twm1010> see now is when i pay the penalty for not keeping my email organized
[05-Jun-2008 14:52:08] <jb> search
[05-Jun-2008 14:52:27] <twm1010> I've had to search for this same e-mail before, and its got weird syntax that prevents it from showing up
[05-Jun-2008 14:54:14] <mrayzenoss> try this thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18614#18614
[05-Jun-2008 14:54:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Monitor Cisco switches (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Jun-2008 14:54:47] <mrayzenoss> I should put that in the wiki somewhere
[05-Jun-2008 14:55:34] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I was told there was not an appliance upgrade
[05-Jun-2008 14:55:57] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: what was the upgrade?
[05-Jun-2008 14:56:40] <twm1010> it said it was 2.2.0-4-1 to 2.2.0-5-1 or something like that
[05-Jun-2008 14:56:54] <twm1010> i got an e-mail from my appliance saying there was an update, ran a backup, and ran updateall
[05-Jun-2008 14:56:57] <twm1010> it installed like 5 things
[05-Jun-2008 14:58:46] <mrayzenoss> do you have a list of what got installed?
[05-Jun-2008 14:59:01] <twm1010> no, i wonder im sure conary keeps a log though
[05-Jun-2008 15:00:28] <mrayzenoss> conary rblist is the command
[05-Jun-2008 15:00:34] <mrayzenoss> email me the output and I'll pass it on
[05-Jun-2008 15:00:54] <mrayzenoss> we're a little busy right now, but I'll get someone to take a look
[05-Jun-2008 15:02:32] <twm1010> ah, here it is
[05-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <twm1010> updated: zenoss(:doc :lib :runtime) zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-2.2/2.2.0-4-5 -> 2.2.0-5-1
[05-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <twm1010> updated: group-zenoss zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-2.2/2.2.0-0.2-2 -> 2.2.0-0.2-3
[05-Jun-2008 15:07:45] <twm1010> will have to get back to you on that JB
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:16] <jb> wow
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:29] <jb> this tar of cisco MIB's for the 3750 contains 1087 files
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:40] <twm1010> probably all the supporting mibs
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:58] <jb> did you load them all?
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:05] <twm1010> yep
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:29] <twm1010> if i remember correctly i threw like every mib from every manufacture in one directory and hit zenmib --run *
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:34] <twm1010> it took like 90 minutes
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:35] <twm1010> hehe
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:52] <jb> hehe
[05-Jun-2008 15:14:30] <ccesario> somebody have ibm xseries Mibs ?
[05-Jun-2008 15:14:46] <twm1010> and no i do not think that perf template works for the switches
[05-Jun-2008 15:15:39] <nemo_> does for me
[05-Jun-2008 15:15:53] <nemo_> i didnt do anything except put them under /devices/network
[05-Jun-2008 15:16:02] <nemo_> are you looking in the perf tab or OS tab ?
[05-Jun-2008 15:16:19] <nemo_> OS tab contains interfaces btw
[05-Jun-2008 15:16:55] <twm1010> perf tab, trying to check cpu and free memory
[05-Jun-2008 15:18:52] <twm1010> Ah... i was being impatient, looks like it is working
[05-Jun-2008 15:19:27] <jb> yeah its working
[05-Jun-2008 15:19:32] <jb> for me at least
[05-Jun-2008 15:19:47] <jb> acually, mine still say "nan"
[05-Jun-2008 15:23:09] <nemo_> NaN
[05-Jun-2008 15:23:10] <nemo_>
[05-Jun-2008 15:23:15] <nemo_> i got that somewhere too
[05-Jun-2008 15:36:08] <jb> argh
[05-Jun-2008 15:36:17] <jb> we -really- need some documentation on writing modelers
[05-Jun-2008 15:36:23] <jb> mrayzenoss
[05-Jun-2008 15:37:49] <jb> it really should not be this difficult to populate Tag/Serial/OS/HW Model/HW Maker information
[05-Jun-2008 15:56:39] <twm1010> You assume its in the same spot for each device
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:24] <jb> well, i need to customly populate all of that stuff
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:26] <jb> for bigips
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:31] <jb> and nobody can figure out how to do it
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:48] <jb> if there was just ANY documentation on it
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:58] <jb> it would be awesome if you could just assign those value's OID's thru the interface
[05-Jun-2008 15:58:21] <twm1010> Indeed, take a look at the HP or Dell zenpacks, and their collector scripts
[05-Jun-2008 15:59:41] <jb> yeah, which is what I did for old style zenpacks
[05-Jun-2008 15:59:56] <jb> but we are having issues with this in 2.2
[05-Jun-2008 16:05:22] <locohost> anyone ever notice some random things missing out of the /opt/zenoss/bin and etc dir?
[05-Jun-2008 16:05:28] <locohost> after a clean install
[05-Jun-2008 16:05:42] <twm1010> like what
[05-Jun-2008 16:06:05] <locohost> zeoctrl zopectl, zeoctrl.conf, zopectrl.conf, runzeo.....
[05-Jun-2008 16:13:52] <locohost> and the opt/zenoss/var folder just doesnt exist after the new install
[05-Jun-2008 16:24:10] <jb> hm
[05-Jun-2008 16:24:37] <punkcut> magnachef, did the extra memory make a big impact?
[05-Jun-2008 16:24:55] <jb> i have a device class in which new devices are not inheriting the parent perf templates
[05-Jun-2008 16:25:57] <locohost> we havent put the extra mem in yet
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:01] <nemo_> punkcut, try this
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:06] <jb> Device /Devices Basic template that only collects sysUpTime.
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:09] <jb> thats all its getting
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:11] <jb> anyone have any ideas?
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:36] <nemo_> grep -i memory /var/log/messages
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:49] <nemo_> jb,. template bindings
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:11] <jb> oh ok.
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:12] <jb> oops
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:17] <jb> i didnt t hink I had to bind it
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:33] <punkcut> nemo_, no hits related to zenoss. got some kernel noise but thats it. what am i looking for?
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:12] <nemo_> un 3 23:14:59 monitor05 kernel: [<ffffffff800bed05>] out_of_memory+0x8e/0x2f5
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:12] <nemo_> Jun 3 23:15:18 monitor05 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 23542 (python).
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:15] <nemo_> this kind of thing
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:39] <locohost> how much ram do you have?
[05-Jun-2008 16:30:09] <punkcut> nemo_, o wow you guys are way out of memory
[05-Jun-2008 16:30:23] <punkcut> locohost, i havent scaled up to your guys size yet. just like 10 devices
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:03] <nemo_> punkcut, i have over 30 gb of memory inc swap setup
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:08] <nemo_> now its stopped running out
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:14] <nemo_> 16gb of swap free
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:14] <nemo_> ;p
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:17] <punkcut> nemo_, how much of that is swap?
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:25] <nemo_> 8 gb real memoy
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:28] <nemo_> rest swap
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:37] <punkcut> nemo_, swap is slippery slope...
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:43] <punkcut> nemo_, especially with databases.
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:03] <punkcut> you have 8GB setup? how much is zope taking up?
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:24] <nemo_> zope isnt figuring
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:33] <nemo_> its all the python scripts that fire off
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:39] <nemo_> winperf stuff seems a killer
[05-Jun-2008 16:33:44] <punkcut> yes magna was saying the modeling is a beast.
[05-Jun-2008 16:36:36] <locohost> anythougts, i cant get zeoctl to stay started
[05-Jun-2008 16:36:38] <locohost> http://pastebin.com/m12a45194
[05-Jun-2008 16:36:45] <locohost> here is what i get in the log
[05-Jun-2008 16:37:02] <locohost> "2008-06-05T12:34:50 CRITICAL root restarting too frequently; quit
[05-Jun-2008 16:37:02] <locohost> " more details at pastebin
[05-Jun-2008 16:38:31] <locohost> ive cleared out zec files..it doesnt fail when i start it, it just stops on its own right away
[05-Jun-2008 16:38:58] <jb> Mem: 8178952k total, 4173004k used, 4005948k free, 618180k buffers
[05-Jun-2008 16:38:58] <jb> Swap: 2031608k total, 0k used, 2031608k free, 2373304k cached
[05-Jun-2008 16:39:00] <jb> :/
[05-Jun-2008 16:39:08] <jb> 11:39:05 up 7 days, 20:08, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.33, 0.26
[05-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <nemo_> root , not zenoss ?
[05-Jun-2008 16:40:31] <nemo_> which user are u using ?
[05-Jun-2008 16:41:28] <locohost> ahh, i think i might have found the problem
[05-Jun-2008 16:48:35] <twm1010> nemo: maybe you need more collectors?
[05-Jun-2008 16:50:54] <punkcut> how can I grant the privilege of looking at the network map to a specific user?
[05-Jun-2008 16:51:51] <locohost> im sure you can manulaly change the perms of that function in the zope management interface
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:03] <punkcut> locohost, yah i just cant find where.
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:26] <punkcut> locohost, also, it looks like zenoss has the full range of logging granularity. Try upping it to debug. it seems like theres blanks in that pastebin
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:28] <nemo_> twm1010, yes for sure
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:30] <jb> hm.. whats the best way to modify the "summary" message of an event created by NTPMonitor or other zenpacks?
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:32] <nemo_> thats the next step
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:43] <magnachef> ping punkcut
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:44] <jb> Command timed out on device fc-dns01.corp.follett.com: $ZENHOME/libexec/check_ntp -H blah.com
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:49] <jb> i'd like to change that
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:50] <punkcut> magnachef, pong
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:51] <twm1010> Are you using the core version?
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:03] <nemo_> punkcut, re swap and db, seperate raid sets , seperate controllers
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:08] <nemo_> hence low load
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:15] <nemo_> zero IO wait
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:20] <punkcut> nemo_, nice.
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:39] <jb> twm: me?
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:42] <magnachef> punk: haven't added memory yet, but stopped zenmodeler and things were much better
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:48] <twm1010> that was @ nemo
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:51] <jb> ah
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:08] <nemo_> twm1010, enterprise
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:34] <twm1010> darn, was hoping to run into someone who had done it with core, i know enterprise is already geared for it
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:44] <nemo_> as zenoss . do vi `which zenoss`
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:50] <nemo_> and comment the services you dont need
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:55] <nemo_> makes it much more stable
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:00] <nemo_> enable them one by one ;p
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:18] <nemo_> core / enterprise almost same
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:26] <nemo_> enterprise just has support inc
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:37] <nemo_> and some extra ( silly ?) zenpacks
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:10] <twm1010> I wish my Zenpacks would work >:O
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:35] <jb> which ones?
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:51] <twm1010> any of the core ones, the upgrade to 2.2 broke them all
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:56] <jb> reinstall the new eggs?
[05-Jun-2008 16:57:11] <twm1010> no go, i've got a 4 or 5 page post on the forum about it
[05-Jun-2008 16:58:18] <twm1010> ahh the appliance doesn't have the "which" command
[05-Jun-2008 16:59:10] <jb> its just a shortcut to finding "zenoss" for you
[05-Jun-2008 16:59:59] <gbkyle> hey guys, i got a pretty basic question.. I just loaded a VM of 2.2.0. I have set up all the networks and am looking to do an autodiscovery of all my devices. The majority of servers/desks are windows, so I would be using zenwin correct?
[05-Jun-2008 17:00:53] <rdeloney> hi
[05-Jun-2008 17:04:34] <gbkyle> I am just wondering how I can throw in like a username/pw into zenwin.. and have it autodiscover all the windows machines.
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:26] <punkcut> gbkyle, im pretty sure you can just discover all your devices through the web interface and then have zenoss model them. it will figure out what to do.
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:46] <punkcut> gbkyle, enable snmp and go through there.
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:49] <gbkyle> hmm.. Ok, because i have noticed it discovered the IP addresses but hasnt been able to successfully identify any
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:53] <nemo_> gbkyle is right
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:03] <nemo_> to do wmi, you need an account setup
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:16] <nemo_> depends how much win info you need a iguess
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:22] <gbkyle> As much as possible? lol
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:31] <nemo_> so do it all
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:50] <gbkyle> Would I have to edit the zenwin.cfg to enter in my user/pw?
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:02] <nemo_> read the manual dude
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:22] <gbkyle> eh, I wanna say I did.
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:25] <gbkyle> guess not hard enough
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:31] <nemo_> lol
[05-Jun-2008 17:20:56] <twm1010> crikey! hyperic is expensive
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:02] <magnachef> how much?
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:21] <twm1010> $35K to cover what I'm currently doing with Zenoss for $0
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:33] <magnachef> heh, nice
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:40] <magnachef> I hear they have real nice out of the box reporting
[05-Jun-2008 17:24:47] <twm1010> I'm sure they do
[05-Jun-2008 17:26:03] <twm1010> solarwinds was less than half that
[05-Jun-2008 17:29:23] <twm1010> still there jb?
[05-Jun-2008 17:30:24] <punkcut> ok I give up. How do I grant permissions to a non-admin user to use the network map?
[05-Jun-2008 17:30:45] <twm1010> Not sure punk, never really had to do that
[05-Jun-2008 17:32:39] <magnachef> heh, you need to give them Manager
[05-Jun-2008 17:32:56] <magnachef> it's either you get minimal to no privelges, or you get full admin priveleges
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:20] <punkcut> yah i just found that out. The granular permissions are only part of enterprise.
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:25] <punkcut> complete bummer.
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:35] <twm1010> doh!
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:42] <punkcut> thats a massive negative for the eval.
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:50] <magnachef> yeah, I have everyone with full permissions, which scares the crap out of me
[05-Jun-2008 17:35:42] <twm1010> Wait wait... they don't need Admin permissions to use the system
[05-Jun-2008 17:36:03] <magnachef> one sec though, because there is a zope that will allow permissions
[05-Jun-2008 17:36:14] <magnachef> well, if they want to be able to acknowlege events
[05-Jun-2008 17:38:21] <ghettodev> can anyone point me to a link that explains how to remove the zenwin template fromt the servers windows class?
[05-Jun-2008 17:38:30] <magnachef> http://localhost:8080/zport/manage_access
[05-Jun-2008 17:39:06] <magnachef> apparently there's a way to manage permissions via Zope, but I haven't had much success
[05-Jun-2008 17:39:44] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=235
[05-Jun-2008 17:40:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Admin levels... (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Jun-2008 17:48:01] <ccesario> somebody have ibm xseries Mibs ?
[05-Jun-2008 17:51:46] <twm1010> ghettodev: go to /Devices/Server/Windows
[05-Jun-2008 17:51:49] <twm1010> go to templates
[05-Jun-2008 17:51:58] <twm1010> hit the drop down, select bind template
[05-Jun-2008 17:52:09] <twm1010> hold down CTRL and unselect the template that is highlighted
[05-Jun-2008 17:54:52] <ghettodev> twm1010, awesome, thanks man
[05-Jun-2008 17:56:16] <twm1010> remember you don't necessarily have to bind to templates in the device class you're currently in, but it makes sense to keep store specifics ones in certain areas
[05-Jun-2008 17:56:28] <magnachef> ccesario: what's the MIB file name?
[05-Jun-2008 17:57:47] <ccesario> magnachef, MIB to IBM servers ....
[05-Jun-2008 17:58:28] <twm1010> You would need to have the IBM director mibs to hit data provided by the director/mgmtcard, etc.
[05-Jun-2008 17:58:54] <ccesario> hmmmmmmmm
[05-Jun-2008 18:00:53] <ccesario> twm1010, you have any experiency abou this ?
[05-Jun-2008 18:01:24] <twm1010> It's something I've been meaning to straighten out, correlation between in-band and out of band data from servers and management cards
[05-Jun-2008 18:01:53] <twm1010> the management card allows the director agent to poll data about the hardware and provide to the O/S's SNMP module
[05-Jun-2008 18:02:03] <twm1010> but you should be able to poll the management card itself
[05-Jun-2008 18:04:08] <twm1010> I would assume the goal of the Dell and HP zenpacks, is to poll the management services on servers for more info
[05-Jun-2008 18:04:17] <twm1010> there isn't an IBM one to hit the director agents
[05-Jun-2008 18:05:07] <twm1010> my problem was keeping things organized
[05-Jun-2008 18:05:34] <twm1010> for instance, if i added a management card in Zenoss... i would want traps for that card to show up under the parent server device, not the mgmt card
[05-Jun-2008 18:05:58] <twm1010> my solution was to leave the mgmt card out of Zenoss, and add the IP of the mgmt card manually as an interface on the parent server
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:25] <ccesario> hmmmm yes yes
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:30] <magnachef> you could just name the card with the name of the device or IP, along with that it's the management card
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:33] <magnachef> that's what we do
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:54] <twm1010> well like, typically we have a server called NW01
[05-Jun-2008 18:07:00] <magnachef> for the blade center management and switch cards
[05-Jun-2008 18:07:01] <twm1010> it's mgmt card's DNS entry will be m-NW01
[05-Jun-2008 18:07:25] <ccesario> hmmm
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:20] <ccesario> any idea about this
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:23] <ccesario> 2008-06-05 15:20:34 INFO zen.DeviceLoader Ip 192.168.15.1 exists on 192.168.15.1
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:35] <twm1010> exactly, thats the problem I had
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:47] <ccesario> when I try add this device I receive this message and the process dont complet
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:52] <ccesario> heheehe
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:53] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 18:13:13] <twm1010> when the mgmt card was added as a device i couldn't add it's IP to it's server to keep the events associated
[05-Jun-2008 18:13:33] <ccesario> I get some error in this zenoss version
[05-Jun-2008 18:15:53] <ccesario> In Main View/ Device List
[05-Jun-2008 18:16:05] <ccesario> when I try delete any device
[05-Jun-2008 18:16:12] <ccesario> I dont get
[05-Jun-2008 18:16:15] <ccesario> error
[05-Jun-2008 18:29:51] <ccesario> twm1010, what version that you are using ?
[05-Jun-2008 18:30:35] <ccesario> I'm using Version 2.2.70
[05-Jun-2008 18:31:29] <twm1010> 2.2.0
[05-Jun-2008 18:33:29] <jb> argh
[05-Jun-2008 18:33:37] <jb> changing the severity of NTPMonitor/other zen pack datasources does nothing
[05-Jun-2008 18:33:42] <jb> they are all still coming in as "warning"
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:05] <twm1010> refresh the event schema?
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:21] <twm1010> why wouldn't you make this change @ the event class level too?
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:31] <jb> hm
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:50] <jb> well.. when the zenpack generates an event
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:55] <jb> actually sec
[05-Jun-2008 18:35:27] <jb> i guess i can change it there
[05-Jun-2008 18:35:43] <punkcut> ugh the ntp monitor from zenoss is completely frakking broken
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:08] <twm1010> i would think the NTP monitor just uses a nagios plugin?
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:22] <punkcut> the command string is wrong for the check_ntp function
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:28] <punkcut> or the check_ntp command is broken
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:33] <punkcut> thats a massive gap in QA
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:45] <twm1010> i bet you the symbolic link is gone
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:51] <punkcut> for libexec?
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:55] <twm1010> there should be a symbolic link in $ZENHOME to libexec
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:59] <punkcut> I recreated it.
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:01] <punkcut> check_ntp: Unknown argument - (null)
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:03] <twm1010> hrmmm...
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:05] <punkcut> its passing a -p for port.
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:09] <punkcut> which shows up in -h for check_ntp
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:15] <twm1010> hrmm
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:18] <punkcut> however if you try to use it it returns syntax error.
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:21] <twm1010> what ver. zenoss?
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:24] <twm1010> and what ver. of zenpack?
[05-Jun-2008 18:38:15] <punkcut> 2.2/1.00
[05-Jun-2008 18:38:20] <punkcut> it says the ntp monitor depends on 2.2
[05-Jun-2008 18:43:50] <jb> nah you can fix it
[05-Jun-2008 18:43:54] <jb> its a check_ntp issue
[05-Jun-2008 18:44:02] <jb> theres a fixed zenpack on the forums
[05-Jun-2008 18:45:22] <punkcut> jb, can you link me?
[05-Jun-2008 18:46:55] <punkcut> does anyone know how to change the username and passwords zenoss uses to connect to mysql?
[05-Jun-2008 18:47:21] <twm1010> you mean for the SQL monitor, or for its own internal MySQL database used for events?
[05-Jun-2008 18:47:42] <punkcut> the 2nd one
[05-Jun-2008 18:47:49] <twm1010> sure, its in settings
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:01] <twm1010> err sorry, event manager
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:15] <twm1010> left side, bottom link
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:22] <punkcut> ah i see it.
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:24] <jb> sorry
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:24] <punkcut> thanks twm1010
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:24] <jb> busy
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:25] <jb> sec
[05-Jun-2008 18:49:42] <jb> http://jb.giraudeau.info/fileadmin/user_upload/zenoss/NTP_monitor_no_port_option/ZenPacks.zenoss.NtpMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg
[05-Jun-2008 18:49:46] <jb> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6100&highlight=ntp
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:12] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - check_ntp: Unknown argument (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:24] <locohost> anyone have any trouble getting the zenoss-deps packages running under centos 4.6?
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:34] <locohost> it seems to work fine with the mysql packages in the centos repo
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:45] <locohost> you just need to ignore the fact that it tells you mysql isnt installed
[05-Jun-2008 18:52:04] <locohost> also, anyone know if there is a difference betwheen mysql-server 5.0.22 and the one mysql-server that zenoss ships with?
[05-Jun-2008 18:56:55] <punkcut> jb, that has a syntax error in it.
[05-Jun-2008 18:57:15] <punkcut> jb, both the egg in the forum post and the egg you linked to have syntax errors
[05-Jun-2008 18:59:08] <punkcut> jb, http://pastebin.ca/1039726
[05-Jun-2008 18:59:16] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1039726 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Jun-2008 19:05:12] <cbleach1> Is there a way to make zenoss handle VRRP correctly when building the network topology?
[05-Jun-2008 19:19:23] <locohost> zenbackup seems to run pretty quick. does people usually do it on the fly, or is it something to save for a change window or slower time?
[05-Jun-2008 19:19:31] <locohost> s/does/do/
[05-Jun-2008 19:37:40] <jb> punkcut: mine works perfectly..
[05-Jun-2008 19:37:58] <monrad> mine does not
[05-Jun-2008 19:38:11] <monrad> when zenbackup takes longer than the polling window
[05-Jun-2008 19:42:54] <locohost> how long does yours take?
[05-Jun-2008 19:45:53] <monrad> we had problems with tar giving errors about file that changed during its operation
[05-Jun-2008 19:46:03] <locohost> hmm
[05-Jun-2008 19:46:06] <monrad> but we have +1400 devices
[05-Jun-2008 19:46:15] <locohost> so, what did you do? stop zenoss, then run the backup?
[05-Jun-2008 19:47:00] <monrad> our sysadm made som changes so perf backup is done for itself
[05-Jun-2008 19:47:17] <monrad> and looks at the exit codes tar gives
[05-Jun-2008 19:47:29] <monrad> but we have not tested it yet
[05-Jun-2008 19:48:06] <monrad> but i take a full backup with zenperfsnmp shut down before every upgrade
[05-Jun-2008 19:50:51] <locohost> well, im trying to move it to its new home. hmm, can the zenbackup be restored into a newer version?
[05-Jun-2008 19:56:42] <monrad> i never tried that
[05-Jun-2008 19:57:14] <locohost> i guess ill let you know saturday at 230 am then
[05-Jun-2008 19:59:32] <mib_698587> I am not quite understanding how to send Warning to my Email address, the documentation is very generic in that topic, Does anyone a document of found a document that explains it well?
[05-Jun-2008 20:01:18] <punkcut> jb, i think its because i have installed through zenoss-stack rpm
[05-Jun-2008 20:13:20] <woodland_critter> hi all
[05-Jun-2008 20:13:56] <punkcut> can anyone tell me how i force model a group of devices?
[05-Jun-2008 20:15:18] <woodland_critter> <-n00b... How can I determine my zope username and password.. I'm trying to get zenwin setup on some windows boxes w/ no luck...
[05-Jun-2008 20:16:35] <punkcut> woodland_critter, look in your zProperties
[05-Jun-2008 20:16:56] <punkcut> browse to /device/servers/windows ( or wherever the top level of your windows group is) and click on zProperties
[05-Jun-2008 20:18:40] <woodland_critter> Thanks
[05-Jun-2008 20:22:05] <woodland_critter> I take it, the zCommand/Username/Password is what needs to be added to the .conf files on the windoze box?
[05-Jun-2008 20:22:58] <twm1010> what .conf files?
[05-Jun-2008 20:23:26] <twm1010> those are for linux/unix access
[05-Jun-2008 20:23:42] <woodland_critter> zeneventlog.cfg, zenwin.cfg, zenwinmodeler.cfg
[05-Jun-2008 20:23:45] <twm1010> there is a zWinUser and zWinPassword property where you set the credentials it uses to hit WMI on the Windows box
[05-Jun-2008 20:24:34] <twm1010> You don't need to setup zenwin anymore w/Zenoss 2.0+
[05-Jun-2008 20:25:33] <woodland_critter> hmm, i just did a 2.2 install and all the SNMP is looking good but for every server I am getting event:ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[05-Jun-2008 20:26:24] <twm1010> You need to navigate to /Devices/Servers/Windows and hit the zProperties tab
[05-Jun-2008 20:26:34] <woodland_critter> k, there
[05-Jun-2008 20:26:40] <twm1010> find the zWinUser and zWinPassword and put in an account that has privileges to access those boxes
[05-Jun-2008 20:27:06] <twm1010> there are some forum threads on how and why not to use a domain admin account for this, but for testing purposes you coudl use that
[05-Jun-2008 20:28:39] <woodland_critter> Under daemons, do I need to add anything to the zenwin config?
[05-Jun-2008 20:30:39] <twm1010> you don't need zenwin period
[05-Jun-2008 20:30:50] <twm1010> or you shouldn't need to mess with it, i should say
[05-Jun-2008 20:31:15] <twm1010> i gotta jet... good luck!
[05-Jun-2008 20:31:16] <woodland_critter> awsome, you're a hero. I'm letting the server reboot and I'll check it
[05-Jun-2008 20:31:25] <woodland_critter> THANKS!
[05-Jun-2008 20:38:45] <punkcut> ok wtf. all my perf graphs have suddenly disappeared.
[05-Jun-2008 20:39:21] <locohost> zenoss-2.2.0-0?
[05-Jun-2008 20:40:11] <locohost> I ask, because i was going to upgrade to 2.2.0 and magna suggested not to, because some people complained about stuff disappearing
[05-Jun-2008 20:43:25] <woodland_critter> my money was disappearing.. turns out it was just my gf... replaced the unit... all is well now
[05-Jun-2008 20:45:01] <locohost> lol
[05-Jun-2008 20:56:41] <jb> locohost: i do not reccomend upgrading to 2.2.0
[05-Jun-2008 20:56:44] <jb> ESPECIALLY if its production
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:09] <locohost> well,i was going to try exporting a dump, installing the new version on a greenfielded server, then importing the dump
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:26] <locohost> but, i deceided against it.
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <locohost> im might just stop with the exporting all together, and focus on the importing
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:43] <jb> ok.. are you guys pulling Software stats from any linux boxes?
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:19] <locohost> yeah...almost all linux boxes
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:26] <locohost> a few solaris, 1 or 2 windows boxes
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:42] <jb> did you have to do anything special to get it to work?
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:45] <jb> none of mine are populatign
[05-Jun-2008 21:01:44] <locohost> i havent done that yet, i was planning on it...but i just ganna stick with zenoss-2.1.3-0
[05-Jun-2008 21:02:36] <locohost> was that your question, ? im not sure what you mean. I have to do some special things to get it to work, because i made my own cmdb integration thingie, and need to import all the python scripts
[05-Jun-2008 21:07:48] <jb> im talking about the "Software" tab
[05-Jun-2008 21:08:00] <jb> none of my linux machines are working..
[05-Jun-2008 21:08:04] <jb> (populating software)
[05-Jun-2008 21:31:35] <locohost> oh yeah, magnachef got that working on ours, not sure what he did
[05-Jun-2008 21:31:48] <locohost> but, if you look at it, it looks like what you would see out of an rpm -qa
[05-Jun-2008 21:32:14] <locohost> heh, i did the hardware tab
[05-Jun-2008 21:36:32] <locohost> snmpwalk localhost -v 1 -On -c string .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.6.3.1.2 might help you
[05-Jun-2008 21:36:48] <locohost> i think thats the oid were it gets populated from
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:00] <locohost> see if you can walk the hosts, and get the info that way
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:20] <locohost> if net-snmp isnt giving that info back, then your problem might not even be on the zenoss side
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:34] <locohost> if that gives you the package names, , it must be somewhere on the zenoss side
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:39] <locohost> hope that helps.
[05-Jun-2008 21:41:51] <locohost> geeze its almost 40 minutes after beer O'clock
[05-Jun-2008 21:41:56] * locohost leaves
[05-Jun-2008 21:46:48] <punkcut> jb you there
[05-Jun-2008 21:46:57] <punkcut> jb, your software tab not populating?
[05-Jun-2008 21:55:36] <punkcut> jb, make sure the HRSWInstalled field is pulled for the section. Goto the toplevel of your linux servers ( Mines /devices/servers/linux ) and then goto the little drop down in the top left, goto More -> Collector Plugins -> Add fields (its sort of hard to see), and then make sure your HRSWInstalled section is dragged to the left.
[05-Jun-2008 21:57:14] <punkcut> jb, to make sure SNMP is giving the list to begin with do 'snmpwalk -v $version -c $community_string $ip_to_walk | grep hrSWInstalledName'
[05-Jun-2008 23:27:33] <ghettodev> punkcut: ty, i just got software map working too.
[05-Jun-2008 23:30:25] <punkcut> ghettodev, np
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[06-Jun-2008 06:51:40] <tessier> I need to monitor a bunch of websites. So I am reading: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToNagiosCreateTemplate and it talks about deciding where to put zenoss in the device tree. It uses www.zenoss.com as an example and says this is assuming I have a device called www.zenoss.com
[06-Jun-2008 06:51:54] <adytum-bot> Title: HowToNagiosCreateTemplate - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-Jun-2008 06:51:59] <tessier> Do I really need to create a device for every website I am running? What if I have a machine with a lot of virtual hosts on it?
[06-Jun-2008 07:53:28] <tessier> hmm...that doc is quite old. This one is much better: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor/
[06-Jun-2008 07:53:37] <tessier> And now I have everything working with page size and response time graphs and everything. Sweet.
[06-Jun-2008 07:53:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jun-2008 08:14:09] <tessier> crap
[06-Jun-2008 08:14:23] <tessier> All of these websites are on the same virtual host so they have the same IP so it is complaining.
[06-Jun-2008 08:14:38] <tessier> And that document addresses this problem but is very unclear on what the solution is.
[06-Jun-2008 10:22:32] <tarjei_> has anyone created a setup for monitoring if a machine needs a system update (i.e. apt-get upgrade or you upgrade? )
[06-Jun-2008 10:31:23] <nemo_> jah wel
[06-Jun-2008 10:31:28] <nemo_> watjes
[06-Jun-2008 10:37:19] <nemo_> oh wrong chan sorry
[06-Jun-2008 10:43:17] <ccesario> morning all!
[06-Jun-2008 10:50:23] <nemo_> morning
[06-Jun-2008 12:30:40] <twm1010> morning
[06-Jun-2008 13:06:07] <ZenMibber_> anyone here that can help a new bie to Zenoss?
[06-Jun-2008 13:07:08] <twm1010> i might point you in the right direction
[06-Jun-2008 13:09:06] <ZenMibber_> thankyou
[06-Jun-2008 13:09:31] <ZenMibber_> So I got this six Nortel PBX devices on a class called Nortel
[06-Jun-2008 13:09:48] <ZenMibber_> All of them are IP addressable
[06-Jun-2008 13:10:08] <twm1010> alright
[06-Jun-2008 13:10:14] <ZenMibber_> I also have installed the manufacturers Mibs
[06-Jun-2008 13:10:19] <twm1010> alright
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:04] <ZenMibber_> and all of them of course respong well with SNMPWalk
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:17] <ZenMibber_> so connectivity is taken care of it..
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:25] <twm1010>
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:29] <ZenMibber_> 2 things I want to achieve
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:56] <ZenMibber_> Monitor the oids and also an Email is sent when a Warning is thrown..
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:07] <ZenMibber_> easy enough...don't you think?
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:27] <ZenMibber_> so this is where I came to a screeching halt
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:28] <ZenMibber_> ..
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:29] <twm1010> Well, what statistics specifically do you want to monitor, and do you have the OID's for them
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:39] <ZenMibber_> and wonder...hmm...whats next..
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:48] <twm1010> You use the OID's to make a performance template gather and trend statistics
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:56] <ZenMibber_> The Docs do not address a newbie in anyway
[06-Jun-2008 13:13:15] <ZenMibber_> so it is a hard climb to do
[06-Jun-2008 13:13:18] <twm1010> You would configure your PBX devices to send trap to Zenoss, which would in turn use the MIB to decode it, and classify it as a warning level event
[06-Jun-2008 13:13:36] <twm1010> OK... learn backwards then... go to /Devices/Servers/Linux go to the templates tab
[06-Jun-2008 13:14:01] <ZenMibber_> could you take to create the template..even if it does not work..at least I will learn the basic steps
[06-Jun-2008 13:14:10] <ZenMibber_> here I go
[06-Jun-2008 13:14:23] <twm1010> Well hold on here... you need to define first what you're wanting to track
[06-Jun-2008 13:15:07] <ZenMibber_> ok ..../Devices/Nortel..in my case
[06-Jun-2008 13:15:40] <ZenMibber_> I am there
[06-Jun-2008 13:16:25] <ZenMibber_> Devices are already sending traps and it is verified
[06-Jun-2008 13:16:54] <twm1010> ok, then your MIB loading should have done the work classify certain types of traps as events of certain severities
[06-Jun-2008 13:17:05] <twm1010> it sounds like what you're wanting to do now, is track the load on the devices?
[06-Jun-2008 13:17:40] <ZenMibber_> I want to track warnings and transform them into email messages
[06-Jun-2008 13:18:40] <ZenMibber_> so I am at the Templates tab..
[06-Jun-2008 13:18:53] <twm1010> well thats not what a performance template is ofr
[06-Jun-2008 13:18:54] <twm1010> for
[06-Jun-2008 13:19:17] <twm1010> performance templates are for tracking... well, performance, cpu load, memory, etc.
[06-Jun-2008 13:19:50] <ZenMibber_> I am at ..../Devices/Nortel
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:04] <ZenMibber_> That is also information valuable to me..
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:27] <twm1010> I'm willing to bet the standard host-resources template would fit you here...
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:46] <ZenMibber_> How do I apply it to the nortel devices
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:57] <twm1010> one sec, let me make sure where it's stored
[06-Jun-2008 13:22:21] <ZenMibber_> right now, I could see the interfaces an their routes only
[06-Jun-2008 13:22:40] <twm1010> right, because your device class has no performance templates bound
[06-Jun-2008 13:22:52] <ZenMibber_> ok..
[06-Jun-2008 13:23:21] <twm1010> I think you'll have to design one actually
[06-Jun-2008 13:23:47] <ZenMibber_> ok..
[06-Jun-2008 13:27:22] <ZenMibber_> ok....
[06-Jun-2008 13:28:17] <twm1010> i AM doing my job here at the same time ya know
[06-Jun-2008 13:28:50] <ZenMibber_> I didn't think you were in your shorts drinking Margaritas in KeyWest
[06-Jun-2008 13:29:30] <fgb> Hello Guys
[06-Jun-2008 13:29:42] <twm1010> OK... so basically a performance template is assigned to a device class, or right to a device itself
[06-Jun-2008 13:29:53] <twm1010> in thise case, you want one for the entire class
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:04] <ZenMibber_> ok
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:13] <twm1010> you have the admin guide for v2.2?
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:22] <ZenMibber_> yes
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:29] <twm1010> go to p109
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:55] <fgb> Can someone help me with monitoring linux process with zenoss
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:57] <fgb> ?
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:12] <fgb> I am confused with regex
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:13] <ZenMibber_> hold please..
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:19] <twm1010> how so fgb?
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:29] <fgb> fine twm1010
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:55] <twm1010> Are you unsure of what to put in that field?
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:02] <fgb> yeap..
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:17] <fgb> for example...the mysql processo
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:28] <twm1010> stands for "regular expression"
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:34] <twm1010> you put a string in there you want Zenoss to look for
[06-Jun-2008 13:34:37] <twm1010> put in something like ^mysqld
[06-Jun-2008 13:34:49] <twm1010> meaning processes that start with mysqld
[06-Jun-2008 13:35:10] <ZenMibber_> So I am at page 109..
[06-Jun-2008 13:35:23] <twm1010> ok, flip down to 110, you should see a screenshot of a template
[06-Jun-2008 13:35:45] <ZenMibber_> I see that..
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:10] <twm1010> OK. so you have datasources, thresholds, and graphs
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:23] <ZenMibber_> yes
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:24] <twm1010> datasources come first, you need to know what OID's you want to poll to get your performance data
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:46] <fgb> I tried this one...but after add the process to be monitored for a specific server after a while the process dissapear from the list
[06-Jun-2008 13:37:08] <ZenMibber_> let me find an OID..
[06-Jun-2008 13:38:04] <twm1010> ZenMibber_: here's what its going to boil down to here, ya need to read the whole chapter, slowly.
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:06] <twm1010> in fact... here's a good read if you don't understand SNMP really well, its slanted towards Mac OSX, but its a good explanation on the whole
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:06] <ZenMibber_> ok...I will
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:07] <twm1010> http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2007/12/a_primer_to_snmp_on_mac_os_x_1.html
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:21] <adytum-bot> Title: bynkii.com: A Primer to SNMP on Mac OS X 10.5 and Mac OS X 10.5 Server (at www.bynkii.com)
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:29] <ZenMibber_> I think I already got that..
[06-Jun-2008 13:40:47] <ZenMibber_> So I find an OID, as my datasource, setup a threshold, and then buils a graph from the datasource
[06-Jun-2008 13:42:04] <fgb_z> I think I was using someone else nick
[06-Jun-2008 13:42:46] <fgb_z> I need help on modelling process to be monitored
[06-Jun-2008 13:44:09] <fgb_z> Hello
[06-Jun-2008 13:45:54] <ZenMibber_> I wish I could help you body..but I am a newbie
[06-Jun-2008 13:53:11] <fgb_z> Hi
[06-Jun-2008 13:54:36] <fgb_z> I need help with monitoring process
[06-Jun-2008 13:56:09] <gbkyle> 3
[06-Jun-2008 13:56:09] <gbkyle> 3
[06-Jun-2008 13:56:16] <gbkyle> quit
[06-Jun-2008 13:57:12] <gbkyle> ewps
[06-Jun-2008 14:09:58] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3292
[06-Jun-2008 14:09:59] <jb> woot
[06-Jun-2008 14:10:07] <adytum-bot> Title: #3292 (document modeler plugins) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-Jun-2008 14:19:51] <fgb_z> Anyone in this room?
[06-Jun-2008 14:25:27] <locohost> nope
[06-Jun-2008 14:25:37] <locohost> just a few trolls
[06-Jun-2008 14:25:38] <locohost>
[06-Jun-2008 14:34:19] <fgb_z> Hi locohost
[06-Jun-2008 14:37:55] <gbkyle> I am using the VM 2.2.0, shouldnt snmpd start up with boot? cause it's not .. :\
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:38] <twm1010> no, it doesn't by default actually
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:38] <magnachef> chkconfig --list | grep snmp
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:42] <locohost> /sbin/chkconfig snmpd --list
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:55] <twm1010> i just figured that out earlier in the week
[06-Jun-2008 14:39:03] <gbkyle> Yea, all say off hah.
[06-Jun-2008 14:39:08] <locohost> if it says off for all run levels, then you can sudo /sbin/chkconfig snmpd on
[06-Jun-2008 14:39:44] <gbkyle> perfect, thanks.
[06-Jun-2008 14:40:11] <locohost> you can do the --list command again, and make sure it took, but there is no reason to think it wouldnt
[06-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <gbkyle> Yep, worked. thanks.
[06-Jun-2008 14:40:52] <gbkyle> Now, if i have the proper information in the zProp's for zWinuser/pw.. there is no reason why it wouldnt be able to pick up OS information right?
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:08] <twm1010> zWinUser/Pass is for pulling logs
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:12] <twm1010> the OS info comes from SNMP still
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:30] <gbkyle> So for the XP desktops i got.. they must all be running snmp too then huh
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:51] <locohost> yep, or net-snmp if your so inclined to install that on all of them
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:52] <twm1010> Indeed...
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:02] <gbkyle> Great.
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:02] <twm1010> There are ways to script installation, and configuration can be done through GPO
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:12] <locohost> i have a script to do it
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:13] <gbkyle> Yea, thats what i am prob going to do.
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:49] <fgb_z> Hello folks
[06-Jun-2008 14:43:29] <fgb_z> can someone help me with monitoring process?
[06-Jun-2008 14:45:38] <gbkyle> I am stupid. sorry
[06-Jun-2008 14:51:01] <locohost> ide give you the script but id ont have time to go through it and take out all the private info, if you just configure it on one, then export all the reg keys, that will do it
[06-Jun-2008 14:52:29] <twm1010> gbkyle: are these domain machines?
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:07] <gbkyle> well the domain machines i think i got covered..
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:16] <gbkyle> i am having a lot of trouble loggin into the WebUI right now for some reason
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:20] <gbkyle> i can SSH fine..
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:33] <gbkyle> but i cant get the page to load to check..
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:41] <gbkyle> I did an SNMPwalk on the domain machine, and it worked.
[06-Jun-2008 14:58:35] <locohost> i wonder if i can ack things like t his without causing a problem
[06-Jun-2008 14:58:46] <locohost> echo "update device set eventstate = 1 where device = 'server01';"|mysql -uroot events
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:22] <gbkyle> locohost: you talkin to me? haha
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:30] <locohost> nope, myself
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:42] <gbkyle> haha good.
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:45] <gbkyle> confusin me
[06-Jun-2008 15:00:25] <gbkyle> God damnit, i restart zenoss and still cant login
[06-Jun-2008 15:00:37] <gbkyle> cant get the login page
[06-Jun-2008 15:00:56] <locohost> does `sudo su - zenoss -c "zenoss status"`
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:00] <locohost> say everything is running?
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:15] <gbkyle> yessir
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:21] <locohost> what about wget localhost:8080 from the box
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:30] <locohost> you sure zenhub is running?
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:34] <gbkyle> connection refused.
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:39] <gbkyle> Daemon: zenhub program running; pid=3318
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:56] <locohost> sudo su - zenoss -c "zenoss status|grep not`
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:23] <locohost> well, if your sure its all running....
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:26] <gbkyle> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:33] <locohost> kk
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:37] <locohost> thats your problem
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:41] <locohost> i would probably stop it
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:54] <gbkyle> Stop.... which?
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:17] <locohost> 1 sec
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:23] <gbkyle> k, take your time
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:51] <locohost> i woudl stop zenoss, and delete all the zec/tmp/pid/lock files in /opt/zenoss/var/
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:55] <locohost> then try to start it again
[06-Jun-2008 15:04:05] <locohost> it might be smart to backup those files, incase im wrong
[06-Jun-2008 15:05:16] <jp10558> Does anyone know why a command in /opt/zenoss/libexe would get deleted from the zencommand schedule?
[06-Jun-2008 15:05:50] <twm1010> if its not in use maybe?
[06-Jun-2008 15:05:58] <jp10558> I've created it to report in the correct style as far as I can tell, and it's owned by zenoss. The command template is bound and set up for sh command ...
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:12] <jp10558> and when I restart ZenCommand, it runs once, and then I get this in my log:
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:16] <jp10558> 2008-06-06 11:02:35 INFO zen.zencommand: Deleting command LT104_XRX_3500 from /opt/zenoss/libexec/btoner
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:24] <jp10558> and it doesn't seem to update
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:38] <twm1010> Not sure, perhaps thats not the right way to implement it
[06-Jun-2008 15:07:05] <gbkyle> Alright, i'll let you know how it turns out
[06-Jun-2008 15:07:08] <jp10558> Hmmm, it seems to be much harder than I thought to implement a command datasource
[06-Jun-2008 15:27:37] <gbkyle> locohost: don't have a /opt/zenoss/var
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:02] <locohost> /usr/local/zenoss?
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:05] <locohost> where is your zenoss dir?
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:09] <gbkyle> home zenoss
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:18] <locohost> zenoss/var
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:21] <locohost> wherever that may be
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:22] <gbkyle> gotcha.
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:24] <gbkyle>
[06-Jun-2008 15:29:28] <gbkyle> see if this works..
[06-Jun-2008 15:30:32] <gbkyle> locohost : you know your zenoss.. haha
[06-Jun-2008 15:32:15] <locohost> glad that worked for you
[06-Jun-2008 15:37:46] <gbkyle> So how come when i do a snmp walk on a server, it shows the OS info for that particular server, but when i click status it doesnt save any of that info
[06-Jun-2008 15:40:42] <twm1010> snmpwalk is a utility
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:18] <twm1010> zenoss uses it to get that information, but initiating one doesn't store that info, just checks to see if SNMP is working
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:29] <gbkyle> ah ok.
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:34] <twm1010> you need to "remodel" the device, to get it to store the information
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:47] <twm1010> this assumes you have correctly put the device into the proper device class
[06-Jun-2008 15:42:08] <gbkyle> Yes, i moved them into Servers Windows.
[06-Jun-2008 15:42:38] <twm1010> ok, the navigate to the device, and issue a "remodel" from the manage drop down menu
[06-Jun-2008 15:44:30] <gbkyle> Ah perfect
[06-Jun-2008 15:44:42] <gbkyle> is there a way to do this for all servers, or do i have to do them individually
[06-Jun-2008 15:45:22] <locohost> it could be looped through the api, im not sure what the exact synatax to do that through the api is, but im sure you can find it in google
[06-Jun-2008 15:45:32] <gbkyle> alright.
[06-Jun-2008 15:46:12] <locohost> so you coudl do like for i in devicelist;do wget http://localhost:8080........deviceid=$i;done
[06-Jun-2008 15:46:13] <adytum-bot> locohost: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[06-Jun-2008 15:46:15] <locohost> or sosmethign to that effect
[06-Jun-2008 15:46:51] <locohost> adytuym-bot: thats not a real link
[06-Jun-2008 16:03:04] <gbkyle> is there like a zip of all cisco mibs avail
[06-Jun-2008 16:27:42] <locohost> heres all my cisco mibs
[06-Jun-2008 16:27:42] <locohost> http://darksideofthelun.com/mibz.zip
[06-Jun-2008 16:28:00] <locohost> im sure its not complete
[06-Jun-2008 16:52:02] <ccesario> hey
[06-Jun-2008 16:52:24] <ccesario> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates this is applyed in zenoss-2.2.0 ?
[06-Jun-2008 16:52:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jun-2008 17:12:09] <gbkyle> locohost: thanks
[06-Jun-2008 17:18:10] <tessier_> Hello all! I have a problem with paging. Zenoss seems to want to use snpp to send pages if you put anything in the pager field of the user. Any way to get "pages" sent by email to my phone which takes sms via email? And still have emails sent to my regular email account as well?
[06-Jun-2008 17:18:44] <tessier_> We are looking at having to set up duplicate users with real email address in the email field and phone email address in the field of the user-pager account which just seems like a silly kludge.
[06-Jun-2008 17:34:27] <jubuntu4me> I'm getting a zenwinperf error on a MSSQL server of no valid counters - anyone have a good suggestion for me? It's just the SQL portion - I can get WMI info on just about everything else on the box
[06-Jun-2008 17:37:33] <jubuntu4me> tessier: why not use a distro list with your email and email-2-text addresses as your contact?
[06-Jun-2008 17:51:27] <fgb_z> Hello all. Can anyone help me with process monitoring?
[06-Jun-2008 18:23:30] <jb> anyone monitoring any cisco pix/asa firewalls?
[06-Jun-2008 18:29:14] <magnachef> yep...not well though
[06-Jun-2008 18:33:26] <jb> well if we could write custom modelers that actually worked
[06-Jun-2008 18:33:29] <jb> we could get tons of info
[06-Jun-2008 18:34:20] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 18:34:30] <jb> all im getting now is interface stats
[06-Jun-2008 18:34:32] <jb> what about you?
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> Tag #
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb>
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> Serial #
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb>
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> HW Make
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> Unknown
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:06] <jb> HW Model
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:08] <jb> .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.1.670
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:10] <jb> OS Make
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:12] <jb> Unknown
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:14] <jb> OS Version
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:16] <jb> Cisco Security
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:18] <jb> Rack Slot
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:20] <jb> 0
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:21] <magnachef> yeah, same
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:33] <magnachef> haven't had time to create the custom template for them
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:52] <magnachef> right now it's just using the default Network class template
[06-Jun-2008 18:36:10] <jb> im gonna try to whip up some graphs now
[06-Jun-2008 18:36:13] <jb> for cpu/connections
[06-Jun-2008 18:37:09] <magnachef> cool
[06-Jun-2008 18:37:25] <magnachef> it'd be nice to get that as a zenpack
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:09] <jb> ok
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:19] <jb> i can do that
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:25] <jb> but i really want to get the modeler stuff working
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:29] <magnachef> I would much appreciate that
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:40] <tessier_> jubuntu4me: I'm not quite sure what you mean. We have the capability to set up distro lists of course.
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:41] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 18:56:11] <magnachef> does anyone know why I may be seeing "snmp agent down" errors from previously deleted devices?
[06-Jun-2008 18:59:14] <jb> argh i cant even get these mibs to load
[06-Jun-2008 19:05:16] <magnachef> dependancies?
[06-Jun-2008 19:11:17] <ZenMibber_> do you guys put all of your MIBS in one directory to load them even including the ones that are installed by default?
[06-Jun-2008 19:11:37] <magnachef> I throw them all in the same directory, yeah
[06-Jun-2008 19:11:40] <ZenMibber_> I am getting mibs not loaded when kept in separate directories
[06-Jun-2008 19:12:29] <ZenMibber_> do you dump them into the IETF directory?
[06-Jun-2008 19:13:12] <magnachef> I put them in /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/
[06-Jun-2008 19:13:17] <magnachef> and I have no problems
[06-Jun-2008 19:14:41] <ZenMibber_> thanks...I will try that now..
[06-Jun-2008 19:18:13] <magnachef> where can I see a list of devices that are in the list to be monitored
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:36] <jb> GRR
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:41] <jb> well
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:45] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site/cisco/core$ zenmib run SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:45] <jb> INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:51] <jb> this one is giving me problems
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:55] <jb> but SNMPv2-SMI has already been loaded
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:19] <magnachef> try loading it again on the same line with the other mib
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:32] <jb> zenmib run blah blah2
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:33] <jb> like that?
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:46] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:50] <jb> k sec
[06-Jun-2008 19:22:45] <jubuntu4me> Tessier: What I was thinking was (based on an Exchange enviroment but it could be done using anything) you create a contact on the mailserver for your email-to-text addy (say 5555555555@cingularme.com) and then add the contact and your primary account to a new distribution list. Then in zenoss make the distro list your email address so when an alert comes in it goes to the list, which sends it to both your cell and you
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:35] <jb> this is such bullshit..
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:36] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site$ zenmib run SNMPv2-SMI.my SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:36] <jb> INFO:zen.zenmib:Loaded mib SNMPv2-SMI
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:36] <jb> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site$ zenmib run -v10 SNMPv2-SMI.my SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:SNMPv2-SMI.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:running smidump -fpython "SNMPv2-SMI.my" 2>/dev/null
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> DEBUG:zen.Relations:obj /zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs/SNMPv2-SMI already exits on /zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> INFO:zen.zenmib:Loaded mib SNMPv2-SMI
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:55] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:57] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:running smidump -fpython -p "SNMPv2-SMI.my" "SNMPv2-TC.my" 2>/dev/null
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:59] <jb> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:29:42] <magnachef> maybe try renaming it to .mib? dunno, that's a shot in the dark
[06-Jun-2008 19:31:19] <cbleach> take the my extension off the mib and try again
[06-Jun-2008 19:31:34] <cbleach> the .my extension
[06-Jun-2008 19:32:01] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 19:32:25] <magnachef> otherwise there's something wrong with your mib
[06-Jun-2008 19:33:16] <cbleach> I have had this problem before, and I think I remember it having something to do with file extensions
[06-Jun-2008 19:35:49] <jb> hm ok sec
[06-Jun-2008 19:36:04] <jb> theres a thread in the forums about this exact issue, and they didn't rename
[06-Jun-2008 19:45:05] <ccesario> hello!
[06-Jun-2008 19:46:41] <ccesario> somebody!!?
[06-Jun-2008 19:47:05] <jb> argh
[06-Jun-2008 19:47:14] <magnachef> howdy
[06-Jun-2008 19:49:27] <magnachef> still no luck jb?
[06-Jun-2008 19:52:36] <jb> sec
[06-Jun-2008 19:53:55] <jb> nope
[06-Jun-2008 20:03:13] <jb> ok wow
[06-Jun-2008 20:04:13] * jb documents this ASAP
[06-Jun-2008 20:06:39] <cbleach> find the solution jb?
[06-Jun-2008 20:07:53] <jb> somewhat
[06-Jun-2008 20:07:57] <jb> got past one hurdle
[06-Jun-2008 20:09:21] <jb> actually no, I didn't.
[06-Jun-2008 20:10:33] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site/cisco/v2$ smidump -fpython -p SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 20:10:33] <jb> Segmentation fault
[06-Jun-2008 20:10:36] <jb> sweet
[06-Jun-2008 20:12:34] <magnachef> odd
[06-Jun-2008 20:12:48] <ccesario> hey .... http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates this is applyed in zenoss-2.2.0 ?
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:01] <ccesario> I dont found the menus O_o
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:42] <jb> thats outdated
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:44] <jb> no perfconf tab
[06-Jun-2008 20:14:02] <ccesario> how to I make this in 2.2 ?
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[07-Jun-2008 16:30:19] <ccesario_> hello
[07-Jun-2008 16:40:55] <ccesario_> somebdy have idea of howto usage nagios plugin in zenoss-2.2.o ? I read this but dont get success :/ http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
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[07-Jun-2008 16:58:35] <ccesario> any idea?
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[08-Jun-2008 00:20:41] <Ekras> Hey... Anyone around who can help me out with a little issue i'm havin getting zenoss running?
[08-Jun-2008 00:23:57] <Ekras> trying to use vmware to install on a win2k3 server.... when i try to connect to port 8080 after install it cant seem to find anything
[08-Jun-2008 00:24:27] <Ekras> (tried connecting both remotly and as localhost on the server)
[08-Jun-2008 00:30:46] <Ekras> ello?
[08-Jun-2008 01:55:13] <Ekras> ok wow...what a helpful community
[08-Jun-2008 02:03:24] <troy42> no saturday evening getting started support with your irc service contract?
[08-Jun-2008 02:03:40] <troy42> i'd demand freenode issue a refund
[08-Jun-2008 02:03:45] <troy42>
[08-Jun-2008 02:04:26] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:01] <troy42> is it actually running?
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:33] <Ekras> yeah... vmplayer is up and runnign
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:42] <Ekras> everything looked right durring its "boot"
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:42] <troy42> and if so, can you telnet to port 8080, issue a couple newlines, and get a response
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:52] <Ekras> can't connect to port 8080
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:54] <Ekras> which is the issue
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:56] <Ekras> port is open
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:08] <troy42> any chance you're running into the windows firewall?
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:13] <Ekras> nope
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:20] <Ekras> had that for lunch earlier
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:30] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:49] <troy42> can you grab lsof or a win32 equiv and see whether it's bound to the port?
[08-Jun-2008 02:07:05] <troy42> one of the msft sysinternals tools, say
[08-Jun-2008 02:07:46] <troy42> i don't know the current suite well enough to give a specific one, but i think one will trace all sys calls, like strace on unix
[08-Jun-2008 02:07:55] <troy42> and i think there's another that shows open file handles like lsof
[08-Jun-2008 02:08:12] <Ekras> let me see what I can do....
[08-Jun-2008 02:09:03] <troy42> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb545027.aspx might help too
[08-Jun-2008 02:09:21] <troy42> check out TCPView
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:02] <troy42> depending on what that says (namely, if it is bound), you may want to grab/install a lightweight web server or something (any tcp socket server) and see whether you can connect to it, or trace the syscalls for zenoss while you try to connect
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:26] <troy42> if it's not bound, config issue somewhere
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:53] <Ekras> did a netstat -an
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:58] <Ekras> and it says listening on the port
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:09] <troy42> that's a good sign
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:26] <troy42> might be worth grabbing ethereal and sniffing
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:38] <Ekras> grabbin tcp view... now
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:39] <troy42> are you hitting the localhost IP or the ethernet interface IP?
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:52] <Ekras> http://localhost:8080/
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[08-Jun-2008 02:14:20] <troy42> hm, yeah, i'd grab ethereal
[08-Jun-2008 02:14:40] <troy42> since it sounds like tcpview would just affirm netstat
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:05] <troy42> either than or an app-level trace to watch the os hand zope the socket request
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:16] <Ekras> etherreal?
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:26] <troy42> open source GUI TCP packet sniffer
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:54] <Ekras> ok will try that...
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:58] <Ekras> thanks for your help btw
[08-Jun-2008 02:16:09] <troy42> should at least see your SYN, and if you don't see a SYN ACK packet back from localhost, something's up at the OS level
[08-Jun-2008 02:16:10] <troy42> no prob
[08-Jun-2008 02:16:29] <troy42> you'll see 1 line per packet, and if you start capture then try to connect, it should show the connection attempt
[08-Jun-2008 02:17:05] <troy42> which might be your SYN (connection request) then just no response and a timeout, since it sounds like you're not getting an explicit error (port unreachable/connection refused, say)
[08-Jun-2008 02:17:30] * troy42 kicks ruby's roo module in the pants
[08-Jun-2008 02:17:46] <troy42> i'm not sure that any slower xls->csv code could be written
[08-Jun-2008 02:18:38] <Ekras> oh wait...i think i'm dislexic or something...port 8800 listening not 8080 -- different app
[08-Jun-2008 02:18:49] <Ekras> crao
[08-Jun-2008 02:18:52] <Ekras> err crap
[08-Jun-2008 02:19:53] <troy42> been there, done that myself
[08-Jun-2008 02:21:02] <Ekras> so back to square one...hmm
[08-Jun-2008 02:22:47] <troy42> if it's not listening, pretty much has to be a config issue
[08-Jun-2008 02:22:56] <troy42> or that it's not running at all
[08-Jun-2008 02:23:33] <Ekras> lemme make sure i'm doin this right
[08-Jun-2008 02:23:35] <troy42> something could be blocking it from listening, too, i suppose, but all i know of in that realm would be the windows firewall and AV stuff
[08-Jun-2008 02:23:49] <Ekras> installed VMWare Player
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:09] <Ekras> than opened the Zenoss file which launched the virtual machine
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:31] <Ekras> that in turn tells me the following
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:38] <Ekras> Welcome Zenoss, version
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:56] <Ekras> Appliance Agent is available at https://localhostL3004/rAA
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:13] <Ekras> Zenoss Management Console is available at http://localhost:8080
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:34] <Ekras> than lets me log in
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:37] <Ekras> as root
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:46] <Ekras> did I need to do anything beyond that?
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:50] <troy42> sounds pretty reasonable so far. i've only used the src and binary distributions though
[08-Jun-2008 02:26:07] <troy42> are you hitting it from within the same localhost VM?
[08-Jun-2008 02:26:18] <troy42> ie, that localhost URL will only work within the VM that just booted
[08-Jun-2008 02:26:36] <troy42> (might be a stupid question)
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:10] <Ekras> well no
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:11] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:12] <troy42> if you're hitting the localhost URL from a browser outside of the VM that just booted, you'd be hitting the host rather than the guest
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:19] <Ekras> your right
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:20] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:30] <Ekras> ok...thats problem #1 lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:35] <troy42> virtualization adds at least one level of abstraction to everything =)
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:45] <troy42> your localhost is not my localhost!
[08-Jun-2008 02:28:55] <troy42> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-and-using-the-zenoss-virtual-appliance-and-vmware-player/
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing and Using the Zenoss Virtual Appliance and Vmware Player - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:33] <Ekras> yeah read that
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:34] <Ekras> 7. Open a new web browser (Zenoss runs most consistently using Mozilla Firefox) and enter the URL that appears in the login screen. When the login prompt appears, log in as:
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:34] <Ekras> User: admin
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:34] <Ekras> Password: zenoss
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:42] <Ekras> figured they meant on my host OS
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:42] <troy42> assuming it's bound to *:8080 (which i'm not sure it is - haven't used the appliance), you might be able to do 1.2.3.4:8080 from the vmware host
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:53] <troy42> where 1.2.3.4 is the ip of the guest that you just booted
[08-Jun-2008 02:30:28] <troy42> given that it's rAA, an appliance-oriented linux distro, it may be setup to listen on all interfaces
[08-Jun-2008 02:33:30] <Ekras> ok cool
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:03] <Ekras> tryin to figure out the ip of the guest OS now
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:14] <Ekras> ipconfig just gives me 127.0.0.1 lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:28] <Ekras> err ifconfig
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:34] <troy42> wonder whether it couldn't get an IP
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:55] <troy42> might try: ifconfig -a
[08-Jun-2008 02:35:19] <troy42> or if you know an IP it can grab, at least temporarily just hard set it with ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x
[08-Jun-2008 02:36:14] <troy42> that might actually be configurable in the rAA (OS) management URL
[08-Jun-2008 02:37:14] <troy42> https://localhost:3004/rAA , but i guess you'll still need to know the IP
[08-Jun-2008 02:37:53] <troy42> ifconfig might let you set it for long enough (until the next vm boot) to get to these URLs
[08-Jun-2008 02:39:23] <troy42> and there is probably another way (rAA command line tool, say) to set an IP explicitly
[08-Jun-2008 03:00:08] <Ekras> tried to push it 192.168.0.30 can't seem to find it there either
[08-Jun-2008 03:00:09] <Ekras> hmm
[08-Jun-2008 03:00:27] <Ekras> I feel so dumb today lol
[08-Jun-2008 03:11:29] <troy42> no worries. can you ping that ip?
[08-Jun-2008 03:11:56] <troy42> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.30 should give it that ip, and assuming your host os is on 192.168.0.0/24, it should be pingable
[08-Jun-2008 03:12:17] <Ekras> lol..just rebooted vmware
[08-Jun-2008 03:12:19] <Ekras> 1 sec
[08-Jun-2008 03:13:40] <Ekras> timed out
[08-Jun-2008 03:13:44] <troy42> reboot isn't a bad idea is there dhcp on that network?
[08-Jun-2008 03:14:22] <Ekras> not sure
[08-Jun-2008 03:14:45] <Ekras> should be... i didn't set it up...
[08-Jun-2008 03:14:59] <Ekras> prolly mistake #1 lol
[08-Jun-2008 03:17:04] <Ekras> 1 sec connecting here from the server
[08-Jun-2008 03:18:05] <Ekras2> ok
[08-Jun-2008 03:18:17] <Ekras2> now I can copy/paste
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:03] <troy42> nice
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:36] <Ekras2> grrrrr
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:39] <Ekras2> of course
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:41] <Ekras2> lol
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:50] <Ekras2> vmplayer has its own damned clipboard
[08-Jun-2008 03:23:34] <Ekras2> ok think i found the big problem
[08-Jun-2008 03:23:49] <Ekras2> eth0 isn't finding an ip durring boot
[08-Jun-2008 03:24:38] <troy42> yeah, that would do it
[08-Jun-2008 03:24:50] <troy42> wonder whether there's no dhcp server
[08-Jun-2008 03:25:40] <Ekras2> set it to use NAT instead of a bridge
[08-Jun-2008 03:25:50] <troy42> oh, gotcha
[08-Jun-2008 03:25:56] <Ekras2> seems to find an IP this time
[08-Jun-2008 03:26:07] <Ekras2> but we'll see once it boots up
[08-Jun-2008 03:26:35] <troy42> at least we found the problem
[08-Jun-2008 03:26:58] <Ekras2> Got it
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:05] <Ekras2> thanks a ton for your assistance man
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:23] <troy42> anytime
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:24] <Ekras2> that should get added to the guide to check
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:35] <troy42> yeah, i agree. when matt gets back i'll ping him about it
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:36] <Ekras2> cause it defaults to bridge
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:39] <Ekras2> cool
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:43] <Ekras2> thanks
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:44] <troy42> and feel free to stick around, there's usually someone here
[08-Jun-2008 03:28:00] <troy42> i'm not even an employee of the co, just a fan
[08-Jun-2008 03:28:05] <Ekras2> i'll leave my home machine connected... gonna uninstall mirc from this thing
[08-Jun-2008 03:28:18] <troy42> nice
[08-Jun-2008 03:39:46] <Ekras> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[08-Jun-2008 03:39:56] <Ekras> that ok?
[08-Jun-2008 03:40:40] <Ekras> error was from zenping
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[09-Jun-2008 11:54:00] <ccesario> morning!
[09-Jun-2008 12:22:27] <cy_`> hello
[09-Jun-2008 12:34:54] <ccesario> hey .... http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates this is applyed in zenoss-2.2.0 ? how to I make this in zenoss-2.2 ?
[09-Jun-2008 12:35:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 13:01:28] <ZenMibber_> I am trying to add a Datasource for a new template for a Nortel PBX..When adding the new datasorce I am asked for "id"....WHAT ARE THEY REFERING TO?
[09-Jun-2008 13:01:54] <ZenMibber_> sorry for the caps...
[09-Jun-2008 13:04:24] <jb> the ID is just the name of the datasource
[09-Jun-2008 13:04:26] <jb> you can name it anything..
[09-Jun-2008 13:07:45] <ZenMibber_> oh thanks
[09-Jun-2008 13:08:00] <ZenMibber_> let me try that
[09-Jun-2008 13:08:57] <ZenMibber_> How does one decided if the Datasource is SNMP based or Command?
[09-Jun-2008 13:10:22] <ZenMibber_> I an going to say SNMP is based on OIDS...
[09-Jun-2008 13:27:42] <shadeimi> hi at all
[09-Jun-2008 13:28:57] <shadeimi> what's the state about the OSProcess ticket?
[09-Jun-2008 13:44:39] <ccesario> hello
[09-Jun-2008 13:52:09] <jb> ZenMibber: if you are adding a datasource, you should know if its SNMP or command based..
[09-Jun-2008 13:52:27] <jb> SNMP uses an OID to pull the data from, COMMAND executes a command on the zenoss server to obtain information
[09-Jun-2008 14:10:17] <ZenMibber_> thanks a lot again..just thinking outloud..
[09-Jun-2008 14:10:32] <jb> np
[09-Jun-2008 14:15:07] <shadeimi> jb,
[09-Jun-2008 14:15:38] <shadeimi> i've this problem
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:04] <shadeimi> i've added an os process
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:12] <shadeimi> for a machine monitored by ssh
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:28] <cy_`> i'm trying to build zenoss on solaris.. but i get these kind of errors: http://pastebin.ca/1042923 .. anyone knows how to fix this?
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:37] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 1042923 (at pastebin.ca)
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:52] <shadeimi> but when i stop the process, the light remain green,
[09-Jun-2008 14:17:00] <shadeimi> also if i remodel the device
[09-Jun-2008 14:17:06] <shadeimi> there's a bug?
[09-Jun-2008 14:18:19] <shadeimi> there's anyone?
[09-Jun-2008 14:25:57] <shadeimi> hey'
[09-Jun-2008 14:25:58] <shadeimi> ?
[09-Jun-2008 14:27:12] <MrTux> cy_`: there is a problem with libart, do you use gnu make etc?
[09-Jun-2008 14:34:27] <shadeimi> there's anyone can help me with osprocess
[09-Jun-2008 14:34:28] <shadeimi> ?
[09-Jun-2008 14:43:54] <cy_`> MrTux: yes i do sir
[09-Jun-2008 14:44:16] <MrTux> cy_`: so try compiling it by hand and see what it does, just libart
[09-Jun-2008 14:45:16] <cy_`> haha
[09-Jun-2008 14:45:22] <cy_`> ok.. i *try*
[09-Jun-2008 14:49:11] <shadeimi> hy
[09-Jun-2008 14:49:13] <shadeimi> hi
[09-Jun-2008 14:49:56] <shadeimi> there is anyone can help me?
[09-Jun-2008 15:01:49] <ccesario> hello... somebody have any doc... of how to usage nagios plugin in zenoss-2.2 ?
[09-Jun-2008 15:11:36] <shadeimi> there is anyone can help me with osprocess using zenplugin.py??
[09-Jun-2008 16:15:27] <cy_`> MrTux: why dont zenoss provide solaris packages? it's quite hard to build it from src
[09-Jun-2008 16:15:40] <cy_`> or a up2date howto
[09-Jun-2008 16:42:26] <jp10558> Does anyone know how to reign in the process monitor so that it doesn't match everything that has "term" in it. Say we want to know that at least one notepad is running, but we don't want to be alerted if notepad - foo was closed as long as notepad * is still running...
[09-Jun-2008 17:12:58] <ccesario> hello!
[09-Jun-2008 17:25:57] <magnachef> jp10558: you should lock down the regexp by using ^ and $
[09-Jun-2008 17:26:16] <magnachef> that will match the start and end of a line, respectively
[09-Jun-2008 17:28:51] <ccesario> magnachef, do you have idea about execute nagios plugins in zenoss-2.2 ?
[09-Jun-2008 17:29:17] <magnachef> I don't...I don't use nagios plugins or 2.2
[09-Jun-2008 17:29:19] <magnachef> sorry
[09-Jun-2008 17:31:19] <kgoedtel> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/
[09-Jun-2008 17:31:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:30] <ccesario> kgoedtel, yes yes
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:37] <ccesario> I already read this
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:52] <ccesario> but this isn't applyed in zenoss-2.2
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:53] <ccesario> :/
[09-Jun-2008 17:37:13] <kgoedtel> i dunno, i make my own zenpacks with nagios plugins
[09-Jun-2008 17:37:27] <kgoedtel> i don't use the straight commands
[09-Jun-2008 17:39:59] <kgoedtel> are you sure it doesn't work in 2.2? seems unlikely
[09-Jun-2008 17:40:49] <ccesario> I think that yes....
[09-Jun-2008 17:54:01] <ccesario> kgoedtel, can you avaliable your zenpack ?
[09-Jun-2008 17:54:57] <kgoedtel> i just mimicked what is done in the core zenpacks
[09-Jun-2008 17:55:07] <kgoedtel> i would take a look at those if you are interested
[09-Jun-2008 17:55:45] <magnachef> If there are any devs around, can someone check out my post on events showing up for removed devices http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21096
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Events Appearing For Removed Devices (Bug?) (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:43] <jb> it works fine in 2.2
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:48] <jb> the nagios plugisn
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:51] <magnachef> I guess I should just link out to the main thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6253
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:02] <jb> theres just a slight different.. no PerfConf tab, instead click Templates
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:05] <jb> thats all you have to do
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - zenping, zensyslog, and zentrap won't start (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:51] <ccesario> kgoedtel, hmmM?!
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:02] <ccesario> jb, let me test
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:22] <jb> did you even try to read the docs?
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:24] <jb>
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:46] <nemo_>
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:49] <ccesario> jb, I read the howto
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:01] <jb> i didnt say howto..
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:10] <nemo_> RTFM !
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:12] <nemo_> lol
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:28] <ccesario> eeheheh
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:52] <ccesario> ok ok ok aahaha
[09-Jun-2008 18:00:23] <kgoedtel> seriously though, if you can't get a nagios plugin to work... that is super basic.
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[09-Jun-2008 19:12:10] <ZenMibber_> does anyone knows what this message is..while creating a template and testing the datasource..
[09-Jun-2008 19:12:12] <ZenMibber_> add_mibdir: strings scanned in from /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/site/.index are too large. count = 26
[09-Jun-2008 20:14:07] <magnachef> can someone explain to me about the zec files and how they relate to the individual daemons
[09-Jun-2008 20:39:00] <ghettodev> anyone here have any exp with setting theresholds on bonded interfaces? zenoss doesnt like them by default it seems.
[09-Jun-2008 20:44:54] <magnachef> check the forums, there's some answers there
[09-Jun-2008 20:45:23] <magnachef> essentially you need to create a template (copy the ethernetcsmacd one), rename it bond0, and remove the threshold
[09-Jun-2008 20:52:12] <_LoneCrow> anyone have any plans to make zenoss work with netflow or sflow?
[09-Jun-2008 22:04:06] <jb> I would love netflow integration
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[10-Jun-2008 04:16:22] <lahirup> hi
[10-Jun-2008 04:16:43] <lahirup> i need to clear all the events related to wmi errors
[10-Jun-2008 04:17:04] <lahirup> ican see all the errors which i have sent to history
[10-Jun-2008 04:17:17] <lahirup> now i want to delete the events from the history
[10-Jun-2008 04:17:25] <lahirup> how can i do that?
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[10-Jun-2008 12:54:03] <mib_lafev1> anybody home?
[10-Jun-2008 12:59:36] <pitillo> hello, good afternoon
[10-Jun-2008 13:08:22] <pitillo> is there a way to use the default template and add (I tested with bind because add seems to create a new one) a new template provided by a zenpack and don't remove the default template? I tried to take a look to zproperties too, but I am not sure if this is the correct way.
[10-Jun-2008 13:10:14] <jb> Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/ietf/IP-MIB) Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/ietf/DISMAN-EVENT-MIB) Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/ietf/DISMAN-SCHEDULE-MIB)
[10-Jun-2008 13:10:14] <jb> hm
[10-Jun-2008 13:12:06] <jb> wonder what is causing that to pop up
[10-Jun-2008 13:12:31] <jb> during device model
[10-Jun-2008 13:12:37] <jb> nothing has changed in IP-MIB and SNMPv2-SMI
[10-Jun-2008 13:48:06] <pitillo> ummm well, seems that mibs don't exist in the servers too... I will try to play with another zenpack
[10-Jun-2008 13:50:08] <pitillo> nice, seems that works perfectly with cisco switches... I will try to apply this template to them
[10-Jun-2008 13:52:19] <mib_lafev1> I am new to Zenoss..hello everybody..
[10-Jun-2008 13:52:45] <pitillo> strange, now with cisco templates works well, I add a new template and the default template is there too, but with servers don't do the same, removes the default template and put only the newer
[10-Jun-2008 13:53:05] <pitillo> hello mib_lafev1, I am new to zenoss too, you are welcome
[10-Jun-2008 13:54:05] <mib_lafev1> I have received a trap (notification) from my device, I would like to take that notification and transform it into an Email message..
[10-Jun-2008 13:54:31] <pitillo> well, was my fault to bind more than 1 template sorry, can be added more than 1 with the control key, I am sorry
[10-Jun-2008 13:54:36] <mib_lafev1> I do understand that the trap should become an alert before becoming an Email..is that correct
[10-Jun-2008 13:57:51] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, did you readed the admin guide? I think that's well explained there. You must setup zenoss users with their email and then monitor(report) whatever you want in devices
[10-Jun-2008 13:58:31] <pitillo> (I assume you have setup the mail server in the settings menu)
[10-Jun-2008 13:58:41] <mib_lafev1> Yes I ahve
[10-Jun-2008 13:59:06] <mib_lafev1> Can this be done with the Admin user..or a user different than admin has to be created..
[10-Jun-2008 14:02:37] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, you can do it with the admin user, or you can make users to fill your needs, you can add 1 user to 1 device only. If you din't take a look to the admin guide, I recommend you to read it first. I think that doubt can be solved from it
[10-Jun-2008 14:05:59] <mib_lafev1> I have read the manual and this are just questions where I felt I should ask the question..
[10-Jun-2008 14:07:21] <mib_lafev1> could you tell me from your perspective, the flow of your Zenoss operations..What happens when you get a trap?..what kind of action do you take first..?
[10-Jun-2008 14:15:20] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, well, I can't point you now, I am starting bit by bit and I haven't setup the alerts. I think I will keep track of criticals events on servers. I think zenoss will be able to send me a mail with a the critical event.
[10-Jun-2008 14:15:43] <pitillo> -a... the
[10-Jun-2008 14:16:12] <pitillo> I am quite new with zenoss and I am starting too.
[10-Jun-2008 14:16:59] <pitillo> now working with zenpacks and binding templates (which it's quite easy understanding it, at first, I thought it could be harder)
[10-Jun-2008 14:21:46] <pitillo> is there a way to show templates which are shown in a device sectio (/devices/servers) in to another section (like /net/routers) ?
[10-Jun-2008 14:21:49] <EekZ`> hi.
[10-Jun-2008 14:21:57] <pitillo> yo EekZ`
[10-Jun-2008 14:23:51] <EekZ`> excuse me for asking but when i install zenoss plugin on centos 5.1 and run the command zenplugin.py --list-plugins, i get 1.1.4.2. "platform 'XXX' is not implemented. no plugins exists". which is supposed to mean that the plugins are not supported for this OS. i cannot imagine centos 5.1 is not supported...
[10-Jun-2008 14:23:57] <EekZ`> hi pitillo ;>
[10-Jun-2008 14:25:58] <mib_lafev1> Pitillo..I think you could use ...Click on Device=> Templates => More => All templates
[10-Jun-2008 14:26:21] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, taking a look. Thank you
[10-Jun-2008 14:26:38] folke_ is now known as folke
[10-Jun-2008 14:26:59] <mib_lafev1> there you could see the path tot all the templates
[10-Jun-2008 14:27:35] <pitillo> ummm I have no All templates option. I can add or bind and when I try to bind another template, the HP isn't shown in that device
[10-Jun-2008 14:29:01] <pitillo> if I use /devices I can see al the templates (not in the device I want to add the template) but those templates, make a reference to another device section
[10-Jun-2008 14:29:07] <mib_lafev1> you would have to "arrow down" on the /devices...sections to see the ...more...option
[10-Jun-2008 14:29:42] <pitillo> yes, directly in the devices section I can see all templates. But when I manage the device that I want to bind a /server template, it isn't shown
[10-Jun-2008 14:30:16] <pitillo> I will take a look to see if I can allow the network section directly in the template
[10-Jun-2008 14:30:22] <mib_lafev1> do you know how to copy a template?
[10-Jun-2008 14:30:50] <mib_lafev1> taht is also a way to do it..
[10-Jun-2008 14:31:07] <pitillo> ummm I don't know, but I will read about it, thank you for those tips mib_lafev1
[10-Jun-2008 14:31:49] <mib_lafev1> tell me what you are trying to do...maybe I could help
[10-Jun-2008 14:34:15] <pitillo> ummm I downloaded a zenpack (hp temp zenpack) and I saw at code that it can manage cisco switches temperatures too. I want to add to a cisco switch that template, but I can't find it because seems it's added in the server section. Btw, I think I am doing a hard thing, because in all templates I can't see the cisco 1, only hp servers related
[10-Jun-2008 14:35:13] <pitillo> I think I am trying to do some things together and the bet I can do now it's start understanding how zenpacks and templates work
[10-Jun-2008 14:35:30] <pitillo> *bet/best
[10-Jun-2008 14:37:13] <pitillo> well, I think I know how can I change it to use cisco instead of hp (editing the template and changing the type there) Now I must to know how to bind this template to the switch
[10-Jun-2008 14:37:29] <pitillo> I will take a look to what you said earlier, about copying templates. Thank you
[10-Jun-2008 14:37:50] <mib_lafev1> Cisco switches temperatures are managed witha mib..I do not know the full name but I know it has "ENV" for invironment included
[10-Jun-2008 14:38:12] <mib_lafev1> I meant environment
[10-Jun-2008 14:39:03] <mib_lafev1> I think is this one..CISCO-ENVMON-MIB.my
[10-Jun-2008 14:39:55] <pitillo> ummm I have that choice too, but if I can bind the template and change the type for switches I think it isn't a bad idea to use that zenpack (instead of quering for that mib)
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:07] <mib_lafev1> you cpould find it here http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/MIBS/MainServlet?ReleaseSel=2416&PlatformSel=0&fsSel=0&IMAGE_NAME=
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:18] <pitillo> I will share that zenpack to manage hp servers and cisco swithches
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Cisco IOS MIB Locator (at tools.cisco.com)
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:30] <pitillo> ummm taking a look to it
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:34] <pitillo> ah yes yes
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:39] <mib_lafev1> maybe..as long as is does not get out of hand
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:40] <pitillo> that's another history xD
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:06] <pitillo> I can confirm that the oid provided by the zenpack works pretty well
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:18] <pitillo> I prefer to don't touch cisco mibs by now
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:26] <magnachef> If there are any devs around, can someone check out my post on events showing up for removed devices http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6253
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:44] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Events Appearing For Removed Devices (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:01] <mib_lafev1> cISCO IS NOT THAT BAD..tRY nORTEL pbx'S
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:16] <mib_lafev1> sorry for the caos
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:21] <mib_lafev1> sorry for the caps
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:42] <pitillo> yeah, I don't mean it's bad or not I am the bad, not cisco
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:44] <mib_lafev1> Cisco is not that bad...try Nortel PBX's
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:53] <mib_lafev1> I see.
[10-Jun-2008 14:52:31] <pitillo> nice, I think I saw how to copy templates. I will try to bind it now and change the type to cisco. Thank you very much for your tips mib_lafev1
[10-Jun-2008 15:06:23] <magnachef> does anyone know where the list of devices to be polled via zensnmperf is cached?
[10-Jun-2008 15:27:10] <pitillo> umm seems that now there are some rrd missing files for the perf graphs...
[10-Jun-2008 15:27:55] <pitillo> well, seems that it musnt' be working well to make the graphs files then
[10-Jun-2008 16:55:45] <punkcut> Can someone point me to some documentation for importing pre-made RRDs into Zenoss?
[10-Jun-2008 17:41:02] <punkcut> Does anyone know how to import pre-made RRDs into Zenoss?
[10-Jun-2008 18:00:16] <twm1010> punkcut: i've never heard someone mention doing that
[10-Jun-2008 18:02:45] <punkcut> twm1010, well there is a cacti NTOP plugin. Im wondering how well Zenoss supports cacti plugins
[10-Jun-2008 18:04:15] <hunter> A newbie has a network discover problem, if anyone is about.
[10-Jun-2008 18:07:01] <punkcut> whats up hunter
[10-Jun-2008 18:07:21] <hunter> I admin 4 or 5 subnets of a campus network.
[10-Jun-2008 18:07:36] <hunter> Brand new install, haven't configured hardly anything yet but the admin password.
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:21] <hunter> I tried a network discovery on one of my subnets last week, but zenoss tried discovering the ENTIRE campus network.
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:30] <punkcut> yah I have the same problem
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:35] <punkcut> Zenoss is retarded in that respect.
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:47] <punkcut> try adding the CIDR notation.
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:14] <hunter> I told zenoss to NOT discover the campus net, but now when I discover any of the subnet, it only wants to discover the parent, and refuses to do anything
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:27] <hunter> punkcut: where? When I add a subnetwork ?
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:43] <punkcut> yes
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:53] <hunter> Ok, let me try that
[10-Jun-2008 18:10:44] <hunter> So instead of just adding 125.3.12.0, I'd add 125.3.12.0/24?
[10-Jun-2008 18:12:19] <punkcut> correct
[10-Jun-2008 18:12:53] <hunter> Deleting all the networks and just adding the subnet desired also seems to do it.
[10-Jun-2008 18:12:58] <hunter> Strange.
[10-Jun-2008 18:13:15] <hunter> Any other obvious gotchas a newbie (to zenoss anyway) should know?
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:08] <punkcut> hunter, lots of em
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:14] <punkcut> hunter, 2.2 is very buggy
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:30] <ghettodev> put things in the right class when you start out will save you tons of bad oid problems and wierd threshold alerts
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:45] <punkcut> hunter, if you use the community edition theres no granular ACL and role control for the users. Which is a big gotcha for enterprise environments
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:48] <ghettodev> if you dont know what a device is or how to mib it just put it in the ping class
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:06] <hunter> ugh
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:11] <hunter> punkcut: thats not good.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:17] <punkcut> hunter, no not at all
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:26] <hunter> punkcut: and let me guess - they won't take patches to put that back in.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:37] <punkcut> hunter, luckily its still workable for me. Im basically just holding out until Zabbix 1.5 comes out.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:42] <twm1010> hunter: best advice I can give, is to stop what you're doing, take some time, and read the admin guide, it reads like a dictionary, but its worth it.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:45] <punkcut> hunter, no its part of the enterprise edition only.
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:16] <punkcut> heh. I read through the admin guide front and back and when I got done I was like "ok, now how do I _do_ stuff."
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:16] <hunter> twm1010: chewing my way through it right now, but I need SOMETHING to demo at 3pm EST.
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:28] <twm1010> Ah....
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:50] <hunter> punkcut: thats my complaint. Lots of theory (and really short pages) but little "Ok, now if I actually wanted to USE the product, which button do I push?"
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:06] <punkcut> hunter, and the UI is miserable.
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:14] <punkcut> hunter, but its really really powerful.
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:24] <punkcut> hunter, which is the offset of it all. and it scales well.
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:27] <hunter> what don't you like about the UI?
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:54] <twm1010> I recently did a scoring matrix of Zenoss core against its competitive products
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:56] <punkcut> hunter, its just disgusting from a UI design standpoint. Common tasks can be hidden. They have a tendency to put grey links on a grey background...
[10-Jun-2008 18:18:21] <punkcut> hunter, for example. Try and add a graph to the performance tab.
[10-Jun-2008 18:18:24] <twm1010> the only place where Zenoss really tanked was in the canned reporting, but when you factored in the free vs. pay... it made sense
[10-Jun-2008 18:18:50] <twm1010> We opted for Orion instead, but I have plans to maintain Zenoss for my own benefit
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:05] <punkcut> hunter, or just try and add a graph at all. youll see how the UI makes no sense.
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:27] <twm1010> punk: the learning curve is quite severe too
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:41] <hunter> Ok, discovery succeeded. Its just presenting no useful information whatsoever
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:41] <punkcut> twm1010, you mean solarwinds open source?
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:54] <punkcut> hunter, yes you have to add the fields to your discovery scope
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:04] <twm1010> no, the product "orion network performance monitor"
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:10] <hunter> punkcut: ok, that read like english - what the hell did you say?
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:12] <punkcut> click on the little javascript drop down, goto manage -> add collector plugins
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:49] <punkcut> twm1010, yah thats made by solarwinds
[10-Jun-2008 18:21:23] <punkcut> twm1010, i thought orion for commercial ware though
[10-Jun-2008 18:21:39] <hunter> punkcut: now I'm totally lost. When I click on the "localhost" collector, I see all the crap I just discovered.
[10-Jun-2008 18:21:50] <hunter> But NOT under the network that "discovered" it.
[10-Jun-2008 18:23:04] <punkcut> hunter, drill down the devices section until you come to the top level of your devices. Then goto the little blue arrow drop down menu thing : goto more -> Collector plugins -> Add fields
[10-Jun-2008 18:23:38] <hunter> Ok, I might be there.
[10-Jun-2008 18:24:21] <twm1010> punkcut: yes it is commercial, we payed for it
[10-Jun-2008 18:24:28] <punkcut> twm1010, ahh i c
[10-Jun-2008 18:24:49] <hunter> My top level choices are now "classes", "events", "zproperties", and "templates"
[10-Jun-2008 18:25:33] <hunter> My existing list is zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap, z.s.DeviceMap, z.s.InterfaceMap, z.s.RouteMap
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:29] <punkcut> look for the add fields button
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:35] <punkcut> its grey on grey background. use your find command
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:47] <punkcut> like i said. Retarded UI design
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:50] <hunter> Found it. SHEESH
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:57] <hunter> which ones do I want to add?
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:03] <punkcut> whatever you want.
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:13] <punkcut> theres a list in the admin guide which describes all of them
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:24] <punkcut> but they expand the information gathered by the auto discovery section
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:33] <punkcut> also - sign up for the forum.
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:33] <hunter> I just want hostnames, IP addrs, mac address would be nice.
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:40] <punkcut> it has that automatically
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:42] <hunter> (for now)
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:52] <punkcut> let it discover. it will get them
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:03] <punkcut> make sure your SNMP is setup correctly too
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:06] <twm1010> are all your devices confiugured for SNMP?
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:16] <hunter> We don't have SNMP on any but a few devices.
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:23] <punkcut> hunter, then you need to set it up
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:23] <hunter> baby steps, baby steps.
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:35] <punkcut> hunter, how do you expect zenoss to get that info?
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:51] <hunter> what? The IP address? ping and a DNS query.
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:16] <twm1010> it should do that
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:22] <twm1010> mac address would have to come from SNMP
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:31] <hunter> Once a device is "discovered", how do you change it from "discoved" to "Printer" or "server" ?class?
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:39] <hunter> twm1010: I could see that.
[10-Jun-2008 18:30:14] <punkcut> hunter, just move it to there. use the little drop down boxes.
[10-Jun-2008 18:30:54] <hunter> Ah ha. I keep forgetting I have ot look through there.
[10-Jun-2008 18:32:43] <hunter> Hmm. If we had snmp more places, an SNMP scan would have a better chance of classifying all this instead of me having do it by hand.
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:21] <twm1010> well SNMP or not, it will throw it into the "discovered" class
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:25] <twm1010> AFAIK
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:32] <hunter> It does, and thats a fine start.
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:45] <hunter> But I don't wanna hafta reclassify ~700 systems by hand.
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:47] <twm1010> you can go to the device list to do mass moves of devices to classes
[10-Jun-2008 18:34:00] <hunter> Oh? Select them in a group and then do it?
[10-Jun-2008 18:34:15] <twm1010> yep
[10-Jun-2008 18:35:10] <hunter> Danke
[10-Jun-2008 18:36:46] <hunter> Anyone here played with groundworks or hyperic?
[10-Jun-2008 18:44:15] <hunter> Going in through the "network" view on the left hand side, I can see just hte IP address.
[10-Jun-2008 18:44:30] <hunter> But if I go in through "Devices", I can see reasonable amount of info.
[10-Jun-2008 18:56:47] <hunter> Ok, now I broke it
[10-Jun-2008 20:26:41] <ke4qqq> anyone have a repeating 'can not read processes' alarm go off multiple times per day from a linux box and know how to fix it?
[10-Jun-2008 20:32:43] <locohost> exit
[10-Jun-2008 20:43:43] <magnachef> try increasing your snmp timeout
[10-Jun-2008 20:44:17] <magnachef> I found that if my timeout is too low, that I see a lot of false alerts for processes
[10-Jun-2008 21:43:33] <Guest71168> hi guyz can any1 guide me or help getting my system fixed
[10-Jun-2008 21:43:48] <Guest71168> i mean belong to zenoss community
[10-Jun-2008 21:43:56] <magnachef> what's the problem?
[10-Jun-2008 21:44:26] <Guest71168> but the problem is not of zenoss
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:03] <Guest71168> i have been infected by spyware and i used SUperAntispyware and free AVg to get rid off
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:20] <Guest71168> but still am not able to connect to wireless
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:23] <magnachef> wrong forum
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:26] <Guest71168> yes
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:36] <Guest71168> plz provide the right direction whre i can approach
[10-Jun-2008 21:46:09] <Guest71168> since i knw ppl here are Network admins so they deal with this kind of prblm @ prof or personal level
[10-Jun-2008 21:46:09] <magnachef> not sure, check the list of available IRC channels
[10-Jun-2008 21:46:21] <Guest71168> checked but no use
[10-Jun-2008 21:55:50] <Lego> once infected, you have to reformat....you dont know what sort of backdoor has been installed
[10-Jun-2008 21:55:59] <punkcut> wtf was that about.
[10-Jun-2008 21:56:10] * magnachef shrugs
[10-Jun-2008 21:57:04] <punkcut> and hopefully network admins dont deal with a lot of malware at a personal or professional level, reactively at least.
[10-Jun-2008 21:58:20] <magnachef> yeah, I didn't want to be a jerk, but if you're using SuperAntiSpyware, you're in big trouble
[10-Jun-2008 21:58:37] <Lego> infected? pls see #windows-support chennel....m'kay thx
[10-Jun-2008 21:59:41] <punkcut> ##windows on freenode :-P
[10-Jun-2008 21:59:45] <punkcut> good channel actually.
[10-Jun-2008 21:59:58] * magnachef 's never been
[10-Jun-2008 22:00:30] <ghettodev> once I add mibs to zenoss is the information automatically picke dup when I remodel a device?
[10-Jun-2008 22:05:08] <magnachef> when you get a new alert
[10-Jun-2008 22:05:29] <magnachef> or, I should say, you receive a new trap
[10-Jun-2008 22:06:50] <ghettodev> magnachef: ok then I misunderstood what mibs were for. I thought they were explanations of oids that zenoss didnt understand by default so more info would be available the next time a device got modelled
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:25] <magnachef> no, you'd have to manually add the extra OIDs that you want...the MIBs may translate them for you, but I'm not positive
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:37] <qru> Any quick links for polling traffic status from routers?
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:41] <magnachef> but you should be able to monitor any OID you want without the MIB
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:53] <magnachef> go under OS -> click on interface
[10-Jun-2008 22:13:40] <magnachef> interfaces are not grouped under the Perf tab
[10-Jun-2008 22:14:11] <qru> Just add the IP of the interface I want stats for
[10-Jun-2008 22:14:12] <qru> ?
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:15] <magnachef> well, you need to put it in the /Device/Network class, then model the device
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:24] <magnachef> it should find all the interfaces for you
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:30] <magnachef> and start monitoring them
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:40] <magnachef> you'll see them under the OS tab
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:43] <qru> :/
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:56] <qru> Okay, so I have a group of routers that I auto discovered.
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:59] <magnachef> ...anywho...I'm heading home. Read up on modeling devices and collector plugins
[10-Jun-2008 22:16:18] <magnachef> move them from /Discovered to /Devices/Network/Cisco or something like that
[10-Jun-2008 22:16:58] <qru> I did.
[10-Jun-2008 22:17:15] <magnachef> then remodel the device
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:16] <magnachef> good luck, I'll be back tomorrow
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:34] <qru> Any way to do this for all devices under /Devices/Network/Cisco
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:38] <qru> Or one at a time only?
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:40] <kso512> magnachef: wave
[10-Jun-2008 22:34:59] <kso512> qru: I believe Zenoss will automatically re-model each device, once every 12 or 24 hours...
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[11-Jun-2008 06:25:41] <pitillo> hello, good morning
[11-Jun-2008 06:32:31] <DarkMats> morning
[11-Jun-2008 09:32:17] <opuk> I need to send out availability reports via mail, how would one do this?
[11-Jun-2008 11:23:13] <opuk> i.e like opennms does
[11-Jun-2008 13:05:32] <mib_lafev1> Does anyone knows what this message means: add_mibdir: strings scanned in from /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/site/.index are too large. count = 26
[11-Jun-2008 13:11:53] <Dhama> Hi all, i have just installed and started to use zenoss to monitor various servers in my network. I am having problems monitoring disk space, when the server is modelled the total disk space is retrieved but the free space is not any ideas where i am going wrong?
[11-Jun-2008 13:12:12] <jb> thats normal..
[11-Jun-2008 13:12:14] <jb> give it time
[11-Jun-2008 13:12:19] <jb> you should see stats within 15-30min
[11-Jun-2008 13:13:56] <Dhama> i have had some hosts added for a few days now and it still shows as "unknown"
[11-Jun-2008 13:18:06] <Dhama> i don't get any errors or warnings when i model the device either
[11-Jun-2008 13:19:15] <Dhama> i havent enabled any file system events or anything im just running with the default setup, maybe i missed a config setting?
[11-Jun-2008 13:19:36] <nemo_> is snmp working ?
[11-Jun-2008 13:19:41] <nemo_> snmpwalk your device
[11-Jun-2008 13:20:11] <nemo_> if thats working, next question is what collector plugins are you using
[11-Jun-2008 13:20:24] <Dhama> snmp appears to be working fine as all other info has been collected, e.g. hardware platform, cpu info etc..
[11-Jun-2008 13:21:10] <Dhama> how can i check which collector plugins are enabled?, sorry i am rather new to this
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:00] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.RouteMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:02] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:04] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:06] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:08] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:10] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.CpuMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:12] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:14] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:16] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:18] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:20] <Dhama> # zenoss.wmi.WinServiceMap
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:22] <Dhama> those are the plugins i am running for each of the servers
[11-Jun-2008 13:34:41] <nemo_> well unless you have a dell etc , i would get rid of the excess junk
[11-Jun-2008 13:34:45] <nemo_> will only slow stuff down
[11-Jun-2008 13:34:58] <nemo_> but you have HRFilesystem*
[11-Jun-2008 13:35:05] <nemo_> so that with snmp should be enough
[11-Jun-2008 13:35:34] <nemo_> wmi not applicable to unix btw
[11-Jun-2008 13:40:14] <Dhama> yes this is a dell server running windows
[11-Jun-2008 13:40:57] <Dhama> is there anything else i can check, it must be some global setting as all the servers have the same issue
[11-Jun-2008 13:43:58] <Dhama_> sorry connection dropped
[11-Jun-2008 13:46:20] <Dhama_> i dunno if this is related but when i try to view the performance graph for the disk, there is a "missing RTD file" message
[11-Jun-2008 13:48:24] <pitillo> I have some of those too... (not sure if it's realted to the zenpacks, plugins, which can't see the info and then they can't create the files)
[11-Jun-2008 13:49:10] <qru> Seems like the machine I am runnning this on might be slightly under powered...
[11-Jun-2008 13:50:48] <Dhama_> Do you have problems collecting the amount of free and available disk space?
[11-Jun-2008 13:51:32] <pitillo> Dhama_, not that exactly. I tried a zenpack which shows the temp, but on the perf graphs I see the rtd missing file
[11-Jun-2008 13:52:12] <pitillo> I tried to load it in the console and seems that they have problems (I think it's related to my perl version which has problems to get the info needed)
[11-Jun-2008 13:52:12] <nemo_> Dhama_, collector plugins are implemented per class with inheritance
[11-Jun-2008 13:52:23] <nemo_> therefore, i doubt all those apply to all your machines
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:34] <Dhama> how can i check that nemo_?
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:43] <nemo_> RTFM maybe ? sorry
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:52] <Dhama> no probs
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:54] <nemo_> i know its a little hard to grasp
[11-Jun-2008 13:56:01] <nemo_> but thats the only way anyone learns
[11-Jun-2008 13:56:22] <Dhama> was a bit messy at first, but i seem to be getting to grips with it now
[11-Jun-2008 13:56:45] <Dhama> very useful system though
[11-Jun-2008 13:58:10] <mib_lafev1> Does anyone knows what this message means: add_mibdir: strings scanned in from /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/site/.index are too large. count = 26
[11-Jun-2008 14:01:29] <mrayzenoss> mib_lafev1: that one stumps google and me.
[11-Jun-2008 14:01:58] <mib_lafev1> It does noy come up in google
[11-Jun-2008 14:02:40] <mib_lafev1> it happens when I do an SNMPWALK...stops at the error and the continues
[11-Jun-2008 14:04:09] <mrayzenoss> what device are you walking?
[11-Jun-2008 14:07:44] <nemo_> try reducing the amount of oids collected at a time
[11-Jun-2008 14:21:58] <mib_lafev1> Nortel PBX
[11-Jun-2008 14:22:14] <mib_lafev1> How do I do that...reducing the OIDS?
[11-Jun-2008 14:29:32] <jb> check the zproperties for the device/device class..
[11-Jun-2008 14:35:20] <mib_lafev1> ok
[11-Jun-2008 14:40:55] <jb> Creation Date: 25-oct-2006
[11-Jun-2008 14:40:55] <jb> Expiration Date: 25-oct-2008
[11-Jun-2008 14:40:57] <jb> oops
[11-Jun-2008 14:41:18] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[11-Jun-2008 14:42:01] <mib_lafev1> That did not work...I used 20..and then I tried 60...same results
[11-Jun-2008 14:44:47] <mib_lafev1> I f I have a trap that it collects info from 10 oids,
[11-Jun-2008 14:45:56] <mib_lafev1> how can I modify the trap details to give more information
[11-Jun-2008 14:47:07] <mib_lafev1> this is the message I get:
[11-Jun-2008 14:47:10] <mib_lafev1> snmp trap 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.5.0.10
[11-Jun-2008 14:47:26] <mib_lafev1> and these are the details from that trap:
[11-Jun-2008 14:48:12] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.1.0 18434
[11-Jun-2008 14:48:25] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.10.0 13 0 47
[11-Jun-2008 14:48:53] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.2.0 2008 6 10 20 36 25
[11-Jun-2008 14:49:26] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.3.0 0
[11-Jun-2008 14:49:34] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.4.0 AUD000
[11-Jun-2008 14:49:51] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.5.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:00] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.6.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:05] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.7.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:11] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.8.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:18] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.9.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:39] <mib_lafev1> community public
[11-Jun-2008 14:51:39] <mib_lafev1> Although my community name is "zombie"
[11-Jun-2008 14:52:01] <mib_lafev1> I want to get more information than that...is tha doable
[11-Jun-2008 14:53:30] <nemo_> can i suggest pastebin.com ?
[11-Jun-2008 14:54:44] <mib_lafev1> thank you..I needed that
[11-Jun-2008 15:06:19] <troy42> g'morning
[11-Jun-2008 15:41:03] <qru> Dipslaying the google maps portlet appears to blow things up for me. CPU use goes to 100%. Is there a reason for this?
[11-Jun-2008 16:26:32] <ghettodev> anyone know how I can test the ssh zcommand user from the command line? I'm getting these error messages when I use the ui "WARNING zen.ZenModeler client cf-idb-test.istockphoto.com timeout"
[11-Jun-2008 16:41:44] <punkcut> magnachef, ping
[11-Jun-2008 19:00:31] <mib_lafev1> can someone explain something to me about OIDS?
[11-Jun-2008 19:00:51] <mib_lafev1> When OIDS get loaded, can they be unloaded?
[11-Jun-2008 19:01:26] <mib_lafev1> Reloading OIDS is that okay to do?
[11-Jun-2008 19:03:45] <magnachef> you don't really load OIDs. You load MIBs which allow Zenoss to decode OIDs
[11-Jun-2008 19:04:37] <magnachef> assuming you're just confusing OIDs, with MIBs, I'm not sure how to unload MIBs from Zenoss
[11-Jun-2008 19:05:47] <qru> The google map foo on the dashboard is taking forever to load. Is that normal?
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:06] <magnachef> could be your internet connection?
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:26] <qru> No, everything else is fine.
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:38] <qru> I can load google maps quickly.
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:49] <qru> My cpu goes to 100%.
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:58] <qru> 14871 zenoss 16 0 100 65:27.36 11.4 170m 114m 3796 S .python.bin
[11-Jun-2008 19:10:31] <magnachef> what is process 14871?
[11-Jun-2008 19:11:35] <qru> zenoss 14871 35.3 11.3 174972 117544 ? Sl 09:58 68:08 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zope.conf
[11-Jun-2008 19:19:18] <mib_lafev1> Magna you are correct I am confusing my self...
[11-Jun-2008 19:19:54] <mib_lafev1> the biggest problems I find in loading Mibs is that they have depencies that has to be satisfied before loading
[11-Jun-2008 19:20:29] <mib_lafev1> and sometimes thos dependencies have other dependencies...it is kind of hard to keep track..
[11-Jun-2008 19:20:54] <magnachef> yeah, best to grab as many mibs as possible and load them all at the same time
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:10] <mib_lafev1> Magna: where do keep your mibs?
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:17] <mib_lafev1> one big directory
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:23] <mib_lafev1> or you keep them separated
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:29] <magnachef> it'd be nice if Zenoss maintained a zipped archive of as many mibs as possible
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:34] <mib_lafev1> by site..
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:38] <magnachef> one big directory
[11-Jun-2008 19:22:54] <mib_lafev1> I have done that and sometime you load the MIB and you get an error saying that the file does not exist..it is frustrating..
[11-Jun-2008 19:30:29] <magnachef> yeah
[11-Jun-2008 20:28:49] <woodland_critter> <- Running Zenoss 2.2 on Ubuntu Server, seeing this message repeat over and over.. I tried the steps mentioned on the forums.. no go, still seeing error:
[11-Jun-2008 20:28:52] <woodland_critter> zenwin cycle time exceeded
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:08] <woodland_critter> threshold of zenwin cycle time exceeded: current value 170.30
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:09] <magnachef> how many devices?
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:13] <woodland_critter> to be exact
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:24] <woodland_critter> 13
[11-Jun-2008 21:49:37] <mrayzenoss> is anyone here having the VMWare Entitlement Key issue?
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[12-Jun-2008 09:49:46] <shadeimi> hi at all
[12-Jun-2008 09:50:03] <shadeimi> anyone know about a bug into osprocess tab?
[12-Jun-2008 10:15:48] <nemo_> explain shadeimi
[12-Jun-2008 10:17:37] <shadeimi> nemo
[12-Jun-2008 10:17:43] <shadeimi> i have this problem
[12-Jun-2008 10:18:06] <shadeimi> i've an host monitored by ssh
[12-Jun-2008 10:18:18] <shadeimi> i add a list of processes
[12-Jun-2008 10:18:28] <shadeimi> and i remodel
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:07] <shadeimi> the process not running on my machine disappear
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:18] <shadeimi> if i lock the processes before remodelling
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:40] <shadeimi> if a listed process is not running on the machine
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:45] <shadeimi> the light remain green
[12-Jun-2008 10:23:08] <nemo_> go to the host --> os and delete it
[12-Jun-2008 10:23:13] <nemo_> i dont like how it works
[12-Jun-2008 10:23:47] <shadeimi> i don't understand, if i delete the processes
[12-Jun-2008 10:24:25] <shadeimi> what kind of monitoring is make?
[12-Jun-2008 10:29:30] <shadeimi> nemo?
[12-Jun-2008 10:36:39] <shadeimi> i've solved!!!
[12-Jun-2008 10:36:41] <shadeimi>
[12-Jun-2008 11:19:03] <nemo_> hehe ok
[12-Jun-2008 11:19:13] <nemo_> he solved it eh ;p
[12-Jun-2008 13:53:37] <ckrough> hey hey
[12-Jun-2008 13:53:51] <mrayzenoss> morning
[12-Jun-2008 13:59:40] <nemo_> halrow
[12-Jun-2008 14:02:12] <ckrough> How many people are in your office Matt?
[12-Jun-2008 14:03:18] <twm1010> Would you look at that, my google map decided to start drawing links again...
[12-Jun-2008 14:03:43] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:33] <Comradin> do I need mysql5 for zenoss or would mysql4 be sufficient?
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:42] <mib_naruto> help with loading mibs in ver. 2.2 please
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:46] <mib_naruto> insanity
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:50] <twm1010> I think it installs the MySQL it needs
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:00] <twm1010> or no, that was python...
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:06] <twm1010> I think it works with v5 though...
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:07] <Comradin> hmm, as my box already has an mysql4 server running
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:07] <qru> twm1010: How many locations on your map?
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:33] <twm1010> It'll probably work, but don't quote me on it
[12-Jun-2008 14:06:20] <mib_naruto> what does the message "Failed to load mib" means...I am in the directory where the Mib is located....
[12-Jun-2008 14:06:57] <mib_naruto> I tried to load them all at once...does not work as most of them will not load
[12-Jun-2008 14:07:23] <mib_naruto> when done individually...I get this message or the Skipping message
[12-Jun-2008 14:08:17] <mib_naruto> or "unable to find the file providing support"..
[12-Jun-2008 14:09:21] <mib_naruto> and the name of the mib...so when I try to load the supporting MIB...I get the fail to load mib message...I
[12-Jun-2008 14:09:44] <mib_naruto> I could here myself thin inhere...:)
[12-Jun-2008 14:09:51] <mib_naruto> I could here myself think inhere...:)
[12-Jun-2008 14:10:04] <mib_naruto> I could hear myself think inhere...:)
[12-Jun-2008 14:10:10] <mib_naruto> there I fixed it
[12-Jun-2008 14:12:07] <twm1010> There is sometimes an echo...
[12-Jun-2008 14:12:18] <ckrough> echo...
[12-Jun-2008 14:12:20] <ckrough> echo...
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:27] <mrayzenoss> In the Austin office or in all of Zenoss?
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:33] <ckrough> Austin
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:51] <mrayzenoss> today... 4
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:55] <mrayzenoss> next week 6
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:01] <ckrough> Im down in San Antonio at Rackspace. Gonna have to come drinking with you guys
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:02] <mrayzenoss> and room for around 20
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:24] <mrayzenoss> we'll be hosting some sort of high-tech happy hour in Austin soon
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:33] <ckrough> nice
[12-Jun-2008 14:18:24] <mib_naruto> I hear the echo again
[12-Jun-2008 14:19:26] <mib_naruto> can anyone address my question...this is preventing me to move on..
[12-Jun-2008 14:20:44] <baffle> Hmm, is there any way to tell zenoss that an object lives in a separate routing table? I.e. I have two servers. They have two different IP addresses. But on another configured interface (wich I see via SNMP) they have configured the same RFC1918 address.. Boom?
[12-Jun-2008 14:21:16] <baffle> mib_naruto: Just use your support agreement with ZenOss.
[12-Jun-2008 14:21:36] <mib_naruto> but of course I do not have one..
[12-Jun-2008 14:22:05] <mib_naruto> If I ever get beyond the proof of concept with my manager...
[12-Jun-2008 14:22:07] <baffle> mib_naruto: Well, then you'll just have to wait till someone that knows the answer to your questions actually feel like replying..
[12-Jun-2008 14:22:34] <mib_naruto> well...that is not fun...
[12-Jun-2008 14:23:13] <baffle> mib_naruto: I'd help if I could, but I have another guy handling all those kind of problems.
[12-Jun-2008 14:23:18] <baffle> mib_naruto: And he's not in.
[12-Jun-2008 14:23:50] <mib_naruto> so let me ask you, you run ran "zenmib run *.*" and your mibs all happily loaded in version 2.2?
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:05] <mib_naruto> I know...
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:19] <mib_naruto> and thanks for the encouraging words...
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:23] <mib_naruto> I needed that
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:50] <mib_naruto> I want to get beyond the proof of concept before my time runs out
[12-Jun-2008 14:25:09] <mib_naruto> I will keep looking..
[12-Jun-2008 14:26:00] <ckrough> not sure about your particular problem, but I can say that the software works fine. We are monitoring 14,000 devices. The only problems we have are due to in-house customizations and scalability
[12-Jun-2008 14:27:37] <mib_naruto> I am at the point where my managers are buying into the idea, but they see me struggling and question the fact that the product is not easy to manage as it sounds...I just can't prove it otherwise right now
[12-Jun-2008 14:29:02] <mib_naruto> if we are able to make it work with the Nortel's call managers (PBX) then it will be worth to buy the enterprise version with subscription
[12-Jun-2008 14:29:27] <ckrough> It definitely has a learning curve, but for a produce this complex I don't know of any products that don't have a significant learning curve. It's definitely not something that you can hit the ground running on.
[12-Jun-2008 14:30:10] <mib_naruto> I agree, very complex and the scalability makes it very attractive
[12-Jun-2008 14:30:33] <ckrough> how many devices are you thinking of monitoring
[12-Jun-2008 14:31:17] <mib_naruto> it will be close to a 1000...but right now we are working to get the PBX system...25 devices online...
[12-Jun-2008 14:31:55] <mrayzenoss> mib_naruto: you can get a 30 day enterprise trial for free, and the support that comes with it will handle any issues that are blocking you
[12-Jun-2008 14:32:07] <mrayzenoss> if you're already considering Enterprise
[12-Jun-2008 14:32:41] <mrayzenoss> not that you don't get great support in IRC...
[12-Jun-2008 14:35:16] <mib_naruto> I wish the community in IRC would grow bigger that it is...I usually meet here the same people...and thy are ussually challenged byu the product as I am..
[12-Jun-2008 14:42:12] <mrayzenoss> mib_naruto: yeah, the forums have more responders, but IRC is better for instantaneous answers
[12-Jun-2008 14:42:30] <mrayzenoss> plus the forums are cross-posted as mailing lists, which is more convenient
[12-Jun-2008 14:43:26] <mrayzenoss> at least to me, so I don't miss anything and it all dumps into my searchable mail
[12-Jun-2008 15:03:03] <Comradin> sigh, installed by accident the bin version but would like to use the rpm file, how do I do the uninstall?
[12-Jun-2008 15:03:36] <mib_naruto> Ther are just not enough people in IRC..
[12-Jun-2008 15:03:49] <Comradin> just do the rm -rf way?
[12-Jun-2008 15:04:32] <Comradin> argh, ok, most stupid question of the day
[12-Jun-2008 15:04:48] <Comradin> just found the uninstall in the zenoss root directory
[12-Jun-2008 15:14:26] <twm1010> there is also a switch you can put on during install, that does a "Fresh" install
[12-Jun-2008 15:14:31] <twm1010> regardless of what is layed down already
[12-Jun-2008 15:35:24] <mib_naruto> what does the message "Failed to load mib" means...I am in the directory where the Mibs are located....
[12-Jun-2008 15:36:13] <mib_naruto> I tried to load them all at once...does not work as most of them will not load
[12-Jun-2008 15:36:30] <mib_naruto> I tried individually I get the same error
[12-Jun-2008 15:53:56] <mib_naruto> anyone here wants to help me to load my mibs...the conventional way is not working
[12-Jun-2008 16:00:35] <nemo_> yawn @ mibs !
[12-Jun-2008 16:17:30] <mib_naruto> anyone that can help me loading th emibs
[12-Jun-2008 16:26:43] <ckrough> bah, I need to customize graph definitions for 10 instantiations of the ethernetCsmacd template across 4 servers. Anyone know a programatic way to do that? My fallback is copy-paste...
[12-Jun-2008 17:39:21] <axisys> ok i installed zenoss stack debian pkg on ubuntu
[12-Jun-2008 17:39:24] <axisys> now what
[12-Jun-2008 17:39:39] <axisys> cannot find a doc on step by step guide
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:14] <ckrough> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:31] <adytum-bot> Title: Install Guides - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:32] <ckrough> and http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[12-Jun-2008 18:33:00] <ckrough> anyone know where the default rrdgraph arguments come from? (ie; -F -E )
[12-Jun-2008 18:38:57] <ckrough> i want to include "--interlaced" in the rrd command be default
[12-Jun-2008 19:35:05] <crashdummyMCH> hi all. I just got zabbix set up and monitoring about 30 servers. However, it seems that certain servers the editDevice pages does not load or takes > 5min to load. Other devices it loads just fine no error in logs any ideas?
[12-Jun-2008 20:23:47] <mib_naruto> After finishing installing version 2.2 and doing the discovery...changing to user Zenoss causes error...
[12-Jun-2008 20:23:58] <mib_naruto> su - zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:24:39] <mib_naruto> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/zenoss: no such file or directory
[12-Jun-2008 20:24:52] <mib_naruto> -bash-3.1$
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:12] <mib_naruto> does anyone have any clue why is this happening..
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:36] <mib_naruto> I an using CentOS 5.1....this is my 3 reinstall...same results..
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:39] <kso512> mib_naruto: it doesn't sound like the install went right...
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:56] <kso512> mib_naruto: I've only worked with Ubuntu, not CentOS...
[12-Jun-2008 20:26:02] <mib_naruto> like I said it is my 3rd reinstall....I was hoping that was the case
[12-Jun-2008 20:26:39] <mib_naruto> It is looking for that directory...and it can't find it, so the zenoss user can not log in
[12-Jun-2008 20:27:26] <mib_naruto> what a pain this is..I am literally stuck here for 2 days..I can not install any mibs
[12-Jun-2008 20:27:53] <mib_naruto> I would have to change my install to ubuntu..
[12-Jun-2008 20:28:12] <mib_naruto> CentOS seems to run alot faster
[12-Jun-2008 20:30:46] <ckrough> try creating /home/zenoss and change it's ownership to the zenoss user
[12-Jun-2008 20:31:29] <mib_naruto> what would be the fullpath???please
[12-Jun-2008 20:32:19] <mib_naruto> I meant full path?
[12-Jun-2008 20:33:23] <kso512> mib_naruto: is there a user 'zenoss'? If not, create one with "adduser" and make sure it creates that directory.
[12-Jun-2008 20:33:56] <mib_naruto> let me take a look
[12-Jun-2008 20:35:26] <kso512> mib_naruto: If there is already a user, just make the directory: sudo mkdir /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:36:04] <mib_naruto> there is a user zenoss and the home directory is /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:36:28] <kso512> mib_naruto: Yeah, sounds like it just didn't make the directory during install...
[12-Jun-2008 20:37:16] <kso512> mib_naruto: Have you ever heard of Webmin? It's a badass web-based interface for controlling Linux systems. Makes finding out information, and making changes, very straight-forward.
[12-Jun-2008 20:38:45] <mib_naruto> I have used it long ago..
[12-Jun-2008 20:39:30] <mib_naruto> I will do this first.........sudo mkdir /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:39:45] <mib_naruto> then zenoss has take ownership...right?
[12-Jun-2008 20:40:05] <kso512> mib_naruto: Yes: sudo chown zenoss /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:41:57] <mib_naruto> "can not create directory"...I am root...it should be able
[12-Jun-2008 20:42:48] <kso512> mib_naruto: Bizarre
[12-Jun-2008 20:43:24] <mib_naruto> jeezuz..
[12-Jun-2008 20:46:00] <mib_naruto> I was able to make the directory..
[12-Jun-2008 20:46:45] <mib_naruto> have to make one by one the same for chown
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:41] <mib_naruto> well that cleared the erro..
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:46] <mib_naruto> error
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:49] <kso512> yay!
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:54] <mib_naruto> let me try installing the mibs
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:59] <mib_naruto> thanks
[12-Jun-2008 20:49:36] <kso512> mib_naruto: no problem
[12-Jun-2008 20:53:22] <mib_naruto> I think th e path is still screwed up..
[12-Jun-2008 20:54:11] <mib_naruto> when I run zenmib......it say command not found..
[12-Jun-2008 20:54:38] <mib_naruto> I will try again tomorrow...
[12-Jun-2008 20:54:53] <mib_naruto> but at least that part is fixed
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[13-Jun-2008 01:02:21] <mechcozmo> hello
[13-Jun-2008 01:02:37] <mechcozmo> I have a question with regards to SNMP-Informant
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:05] <mechcozmo> does Zenoss have the ability to read the MIBs automatically?
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:10] <mechcozmo> or does that have to be installed?
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:29] <mechcozmo> and is there an alternative to pushing the SNMP-Informant software to all our machines?
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:54] <mechcozmo> i s'pose that makes three questions, but all related...
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[13-Jun-2008 08:47:58] <shadeimi> hi people
[13-Jun-2008 08:48:12] <shadeimi> i've solved the ticket 'bout OSProcess
[13-Jun-2008 08:48:22] <shadeimi> where i can post the solution?
[13-Jun-2008 08:49:00] <DarkMats> I guess the forum would be a good place. Easy to find
[13-Jun-2008 08:49:21] <shadeimi> well... can i have my eeepc? uAHUAHsas
[13-Jun-2008 08:49:50] <DarkMats> hehe, well not from me anyway
[13-Jun-2008 08:50:04] <shadeimi> AUHAUhs
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:13] <shadeimi> ok, i've posted the solution
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:21] <shadeimi> all the comments are accepted
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:30] <shadeimi> also cash and eeepc's
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:31] <shadeimi>
[13-Jun-2008 09:27:05] <shadeimi> DarkMats, have u read the post?
[13-Jun-2008 09:31:45] <DarkMats> No, no time today =/
[13-Jun-2008 09:34:46] <shadeimi> don't worry
[13-Jun-2008 11:16:21] <nemo_> what post
[13-Jun-2008 13:12:18] <mib_naruto> hello..
[13-Jun-2008 13:13:50] <mib_naruto> when I run zenmib as the zenoss user, I get "command not found"
[13-Jun-2008 14:52:23] <ccesario> hello!
[13-Jun-2008 16:04:17] <mib_naruto> Where is the $ZENHOME variable declared?
[13-Jun-2008 16:08:52] <kso512> mib_naruto: I declare it in /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[13-Jun-2008 16:09:48] <mib_naruto> thanks..I just can't see it..
[13-Jun-2008 16:10:30] <kso512> mib_naruto: I had to add it.
[13-Jun-2008 16:10:53] <Blacky> Hello...
[13-Jun-2008 16:11:01] <Blacky> Good evening @ all ...
[13-Jun-2008 16:11:22] <kso512> Blacky: Howdy
[13-Jun-2008 16:11:48] <Blacky> Anyone watching Italy vs. Roma ? =)
[13-Jun-2008 16:14:11] <mib_naruto> I see
[13-Jun-2008 16:25:41] <mib_naruto> anyone have centos5.1 and zenoss 2.2 running?
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[13-Jun-2008 16:44:11] <Blacky> i've successfully run the vmware image from zenoss *yippy*
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[13-Jun-2008 16:48:43] <Blackyshark> is there someone who can help me a little bit with zenoss ?
[13-Jun-2008 16:49:23] <Blackyshark> i want to use it for monitor serveral server running windows 2000 server, win 2k3 server or unix-based systems.
[13-Jun-2008 16:58:20] <mib_naruto> Blacky: did you have to enable SNMP on the servers?
[13-Jun-2008 17:33:33] <ccesario> Hello, I can force imediate service checking by zenoss web interface ?
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[13-Jun-2008 18:26:25] <stevenblack> Where's the docs on how to add a ZEP?
[13-Jun-2008 18:28:33] <stevenblack> I created one in "My Folder", but I don't know the procedure to get it added to the list of ZEPs on the website.
[13-Jun-2008 18:32:04] <stevenblack> Never mind. ZEPs are defined in the wiki. The sidebar link to "Enhancement Proposals" points to a page on the website which appears no longer updated.
[13-Jun-2008 19:02:07] <stevenblack> I filed a bug against the website. Unfortunately, there's not a component for the bug tracking system or I'd file a bug against it that the zenoss.com website isn't listed as a component.
[13-Jun-2008 19:08:02] <ckrough> I have snmp traps coming in with just OID numbers, does that mean my MIB is missing that definition?
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[14-Jun-2008 10:28:46] <MrTux> hey, somebody from zenoss here, the trac is down
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[15-Jun-2008 05:55:47] <dsaa> dear freinds i am new to zenoss i have just installed it now how do i start it
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[16-Jun-2008 08:31:52] <MidRange> Hi all, i am still having problems where the total size of the disks in my servers is reported but the used bytes, free bytes and % utilization is not
[16-Jun-2008 08:32:52] <MidRange> The HRFileSystemMap collector plugin is enabled and seems to run without error when I model a device but none of the disk info except total size is reported
[16-Jun-2008 09:16:59] <MidRange> is anyone around?
[16-Jun-2008 09:17:28] <nemo_> everyones busy working ,your questions are not priority
[16-Jun-2008 09:22:18] <MidRange> no problem
[16-Jun-2008 13:51:50] <indika> how to monitor OS process through shell cript
[16-Jun-2008 13:56:23] <indika> I found a shell script which monitoring listed OS process on linux server. It perfectly running for localhost. Is there any way to use it for remote server monitoring with zenoss
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[17-Jun-2008 00:38:50] <mechcozmo> hello
[17-Jun-2008 00:39:20] <mechcozmo> I keep getting the error "WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "memoryAvailableKBytes" on <<computer>> (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.2.0 is bad)"
[17-Jun-2008 00:40:02] <mechcozmo> it's a Win2K3 Enterprise box
[17-Jun-2008 00:40:07] <mechcozmo> with SNMP-Informant installed
[17-Jun-2008 01:47:21] <justnuts> i've been playing around with zenoss for the last 3-4days but cant get my head around snmp monitoring ...especially those not provided by zencore
[17-Jun-2008 01:47:34] <justnuts> there's not much info on the zenadminguide pdf
[17-Jun-2008 01:48:07] <justnuts> I hv install net-snmp on a windows box ..ii'm wondering how do u moniitor a process like sql 2005
[17-Jun-2008 01:48:17] <justnuts> lets say ..if it's running? backup is working? etc
[17-Jun-2008 01:55:12] <djs> justnuts: Personally, I would ask the people in #net-snmp ..
[17-Jun-2008 01:59:28] <justnuts> ok thx
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[17-Jun-2008 05:27:44] <theJam> Hi everyone
[17-Jun-2008 05:27:55] <theJam> quick question...
[17-Jun-2008 05:29:24] <theJam> I'm very involved in a few proprietary monitoring solutions (deployment, extension, administration) and I think I can offer alot to the zenoss community as I have been looking for an open solution as opposed to the very expensive tools I'm used to using.
[17-Jun-2008 05:30:00] <theJam> I'm proficient with Python and I think I can make a dent in some bugs or something, maybe some feature requests... is there anyone here contributing code to the project?
[17-Jun-2008 05:37:19] <theJamAbides> Is everyone asleep?
[17-Jun-2008 05:38:55] <theJamAbides> Anyway, if it's not a big deal to just get involved then I will do whatever it takes. I've been wanting to get involved with open source for awhile, and this project really intrigues me, mostly because of my background with monitoring tools anyway.
[17-Jun-2008 05:39:28] <theJamAbides> I'll stay up on what's happening and check the bug reports tomorrow to see if I can help!
[17-Jun-2008 11:27:06] <ccesario> hello
[17-Jun-2008 12:57:11] <mib_tp5mfy> I am having trouble loading mibs in Version 2.2...do not know why..3 installs in 3 different distros...here is a snippet of what happens..
[17-Jun-2008 12:57:15] <mib_tp5mfy> http://pastebin.com/m419cb948
[17-Jun-2008 12:57:32] <mib_tp5mfy> can anyone look at it and suggect something
[17-Jun-2008 13:39:29] <mib_tp5mfy> I am having trouble loading mibs in Version 2.2...do not know why..3 installs in 3 different distros...here is a snippet of what happens..
[17-Jun-2008 13:39:36] <mib_tp5mfy> http://pastebin.com/m419cb948
[17-Jun-2008 13:39:43] <mib_tp5mfy> can anyone look at it and suggest something
[17-Jun-2008 14:14:13] <MrTux> mib_tp5mfy: the file is -CONF your requesting .CONF
[17-Jun-2008 14:14:35] <mib_tp5mfy> what file is that?
[17-Jun-2008 14:15:01] <MrTux> zenmib run SNMPv2.CONF --debug is wrong, try zenmib run SNMPv2-CONF --debug
[17-Jun-2008 14:15:28] <mib_tp5mfy> hold please
[17-Jun-2008 14:17:08] <mib_tp5mfy> still trying
[17-Jun-2008 14:23:12] <exkev> someone have 1.0-RC1a-Embedded.gz?
[17-Jun-2008 14:23:26] <exkev> it seems to have vanished. I have 1.0.1 but it has a nasty bug
[17-Jun-2008 14:23:37] <exkev> (and I'm not ready to upgrade my clients to 1.2 w/o testing)
[17-Jun-2008 14:32:11] <mib_tp5mfy> MrTux: thanks that is not the problem...I am going for a reboot BRB
[17-Jun-2008 14:32:23] <exkev> ..or 1.0-RELEASE
[17-Jun-2008 14:58:52] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[17-Jun-2008 15:03:26] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[17-Jun-2008 15:17:56] <exkev> I have this issue on my 1.0-beta4, 1.0-rc and 1.0.1 boxes that after $randomTime the config partition gets corrupted
[17-Jun-2008 15:18:36] <exkev> is it writing that periodically (even w/o changes) and wearing out the flash?
[17-Jun-2008 15:39:43] <jb> on your 1.0-beta4?
[17-Jun-2008 15:39:48] <exkev> all three
[17-Jun-2008 15:39:54] <jb> why are you running 1.x?
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:00] <exkev> I haven't testede 1.2 yet
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:03] <jb> uhm
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:08] <jb> 2.2 is out
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:09] <exkev> I'm doing some voodoo
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:11] <jb> 1.x is ancient
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:19] <jb> and hasnt been supported in months
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:23] <exkev> creating tap0-4 and doing manual openvpn configs
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:29] <jb> this is #zenoss
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:34] <exkev> I don't need "support" I'm patching the thing anyway
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:38] <exkev> oh duh
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:40] <jb>
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:40] <exkev> wtf
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:45] <exkev> I did
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:52] <exkev> /join, but lost focus I guess
[17-Jun-2008 15:48:03] <exkev> while I'm in #zenoss, insert whine about how leaky and slow it is when I'm monitoring 55000 snmp oids and 750 devices.
[17-Jun-2008 15:49:05] <jb> on one box?
[17-Jun-2008 16:54:45] <MrTux> exkev: what did you patch? anything public available? i have even more devices and would be happy about anything making it faster and better
[17-Jun-2008 17:02:51] <mechcozmo> hello
[17-Jun-2008 17:03:11] <mechcozmo> I'm having some trouble with Zenoss and unreadable MIBs
[17-Jun-2008 17:03:39] <mechcozmo> er, oids
[17-Jun-2008 17:04:05] <mechcozmo> "Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on <<hostname>> (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)"
[17-Jun-2008 17:04:05] <mechcozmo> but, SNMP-Informant is installed
[17-Jun-2008 17:05:02] <mechcozmo> can anyone give any insight as to why I'm getting these messages?
[17-Jun-2008 17:07:01] <MrTux> mechcozmo: try getting the oid with snmpget, see if that works
[17-Jun-2008 17:07:13] <mechcozmo> it doesn't
[17-Jun-2008 17:07:44] <MrTux> so the system isn't having that oid
[17-Jun-2008 17:08:45] <mechcozmo> ok
[17-Jun-2008 17:09:13] <mechcozmo> so, then, how would I go about getting that oid reported?
[17-Jun-2008 17:18:09] <mib_toad> I am having trouble loading mibs, help please..
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:16] <mib_toad> take a look at this first
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:20] <mib_toad> http://pastebin.com/m2d356c1f
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:22] <MrTux> mechcozmo: sorry can't help you with this, i'm only monitoring network devices
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:48] <mib_toad> this version 2.2 running on CentOS 5.1
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:50] <mechcozmo> MrTux: thanks anyway
[17-Jun-2008 17:20:03] <MrTux> mib_toad: rename everything to an ending with .mib an the end and then use zenmib run *.mib
[17-Jun-2008 17:20:15] <MrTux> it doesn't find mibfiles without an fileending
[17-Jun-2008 17:20:44] <mib_toad> let me try that..
[17-Jun-2008 17:45:27] <ccesario> hi
[17-Jun-2008 17:45:41] <ccesario> I have "extend .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1 1 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/cacti_radius.sh" in my snmpd.conf
[17-Jun-2008 17:46:12] <ccesario> when I trey add this device in zenoss, the process dont finish
[17-Jun-2008 17:46:32] <ccesario> I thine that is executing the infinit loop
[17-Jun-2008 17:47:03] <ccesario> when I comment this line and re-run modeler, I get success in add device
[17-Jun-2008 17:47:57] <ccesario> this script only return one number
[17-Jun-2008 17:48:03] <MrTux> ccesario: try it with snmpget on the commandline if that works
[17-Jun-2008 17:48:23] <ccesario> MrTux, yes work
[17-Jun-2008 17:48:43] <ccesario> I already test, and I use it with cacti
[17-Jun-2008 17:56:49] <MrTux> ok, try asking in the forums, i cant you help any further..
[17-Jun-2008 18:06:51] <ccesario> thanks
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[17-Jun-2008 20:28:56] <RediXe> hello
[17-Jun-2008 20:31:04] <RediXe> Hopefully an easy answer, we get e-mails when things go down. It shows that it was sent from monitor.blah.com but the 4 links within the email link to http://monitor:8080 instead of monitor.blah.com:8080, any ideas?
[17-Jun-2008 20:39:52] <Lego> check your /etc/sysconfig/network
[17-Jun-2008 20:40:05] <Lego> make sure you got a FQDN
[17-Jun-2008 20:40:40] <RediXe> Okay, will give that a shot
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[17-Jun-2008 20:50:36] <RediXe> Lego: That seems to be for a different distro (redhat?) .. We're using Ubuntu.
[17-Jun-2008 20:52:08] <Lego> then check /etc/hostname
[17-Jun-2008 20:52:52] <RediXe> Shows monitor.blah.com
[17-Jun-2008 20:53:05] <Lego> and a FQDN in /etc/hosts?
[17-Jun-2008 20:53:50] <RediXe> Not real sure what FQDN is but going to say no since all there is is the monitor.blah.com
[17-Jun-2008 20:55:18] <RediXe> Quick search and it seems the monitor.blah.com would be considered a FQDN or no?
[17-Jun-2008 20:55:21] <Lego> fqdn is fully qualified domain name, ie the hostname + domain + suffix
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:09] <Lego> what happens when you type hostname -f?
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:14] <RediXe> hostname -f
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:18] <RediXe> lol
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:19] <RediXe> oops
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:30] <RediXe> sorry, not used to runny IRC in a terminal
[17-Jun-2008 20:57:13] <RediXe> shows "monitor.blah.com"
[17-Jun-2008 20:57:53] <Lego> hmmm, so your SYSTEM is resolving the name properly...
[17-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <RediXe> yes .. everything works fine. The emails that zenoss sends us shows that it is from ZENOSS@monitor.blah.com but the links within the email (Event Details:, Acknowledge:, etc) have links with only http://monitor.8080 instead of the http://monitor.blah.com:8080
[17-Jun-2008 20:59:46] <Lego> that's the end of my usefullness, I'm not a python guru, so i can't tell you if it's doing what it's supposed to do, i can only ell you the system is configured properly
[17-Jun-2008 21:00:08] <RediXe> well thank you for trying to help me out
[17-Jun-2008 21:00:43] <RediXe> I'm not the admin here just a helper tryiing to solve an issue for our admin.
[17-Jun-2008 22:37:21] <Lego> today is download firefox day! yay!
[17-Jun-2008 22:37:23] <Lego> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/
[17-Jun-2008 22:37:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Spread Firefox | Download Day 2008 (at www.spreadfirefox.com)
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[18-Jun-2008 00:20:33] <cdehaan> Hello! I have a question... I'm confused as to how exactly I can configure everything that's monitored for a given host (I have a bunch that are similar, but also a bunch that are one-offs on services). I don't want to create a Category for each one, but that seems to be the only way to customize the monitored items
[18-Jun-2008 02:56:15] <kso512> cdehaan: You could create a class like \Devices\One-offs that has only the basic monitors by default, then customize each one from there...
[18-Jun-2008 03:07:46] <cdehaan> kso512: Hm, that makes sense.
[18-Jun-2008 03:08:06] <cdehaan> Is there a way to clone a current device category and just remove what I don't need?
[18-Jun-2008 03:19:10] <kso512> cdehaan: Sure - go to the new class and copy the one you want to it...
[18-Jun-2008 03:19:20] <kso512> cdehaan: Let me see exactly how to do it...
[18-Jun-2008 03:21:43] <kso512> cdehaan: My mistake, it's the other way around. After you create your new class, go to the class you want to base it on, then go to the Templates tab.
[18-Jun-2008 03:22:09] <kso512> cdehaan: ...then click on the drop-down and select Copy Templates...
[18-Jun-2008 03:22:28] <kso512> cdehaan: Then it should pop up a little window asking where you want to copy to.
[18-Jun-2008 04:18:39] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - The Future of Personal Data - 17 Jun, 02:06AM
[18-Jun-2008 04:18:40] <adytum-bot> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=194
[18-Jun-2008 10:37:33] <Comradin> hiho
[18-Jun-2008 11:44:41] <Comradin> Ive got a zenoss 2.2.0 rpm installation I have to migrate to a second box where I had to use the bin installer due to mysql restrictions.
[18-Jun-2008 11:45:18] <Comradin> I tried to restore a backup, but there are lots of path issues with those two installations
[18-Jun-2008 11:45:34] <Comradin> I always ended up with a messed up installation
[18-Jun-2008 11:46:18] <Comradin> is there a way to export my devices from the 'old' installation?
[18-Jun-2008 11:47:15] <Comradin> if I try to export / import the events database I have no devices they are connected to
[18-Jun-2008 11:56:48] <MrTux> Comradin: zendump and zenload
[18-Jun-2008 12:06:49] <Comradin> thanks, Ill try that
[18-Jun-2008 12:09:40] <Comradin> do I have to use this as user zenoss?
[18-Jun-2008 12:15:07] <Comradin> http://pastebin.ca/1050080
[18-Jun-2008 12:15:15] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Comradin - post number 1050080 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jun-2008 12:15:34] <Comradin> whow, nice one
[18-Jun-2008 12:27:56] <DarkMats> Wow! I'm glad i don't live in USA... 140$ for 50Mbps internet! I pay about 40$ for 50Mbps...
[18-Jun-2008 12:41:51] <monrad> DarkMats: 50/50 or?
[18-Jun-2008 12:42:18] <Comradin> hmm, tried to reinstall the zenoss-core-zenpacks for release 2.2.0 but I get more those stacktraces complaining about the ApacheMonitorDataSource
[18-Jun-2008 12:48:44] <Comradin> another link for the bot
[18-Jun-2008 12:48:47] <Comradin> http://pastebin.ca/1050092
[18-Jun-2008 12:48:55] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Comradin - post number 1050092 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jun-2008 13:08:47] <DarkMats> monrad: Don't know what they were talking about in the states, but 50/50 for me
[18-Jun-2008 13:10:53] <monrad> we only have 40/40 and costs around $100
[18-Jun-2008 13:42:56] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[18-Jun-2008 14:08:00] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[18-Jun-2008 14:10:22] <DarkMats> ZUsr: can't you do it with httpMonitor zenpack?
[18-Jun-2008 14:19:19] <nemo_> what do the docs say ZUsr ?
[18-Jun-2008 14:48:41] <ZUsr> i could monitor a website using httpMonitor
[18-Jun-2008 14:49:23] <ZUsr> but if i need to monitor a webpage like www.xxx.xx.com/main.html
[18-Jun-2008 14:49:30] <ZUsr> how could i do that
[18-Jun-2008 14:53:55] <nemo_> what do the docs say ZUsr ?
[18-Jun-2008 14:55:54] <ZUsr> they say we can use the check_http command
[18-Jun-2008 14:56:26] <ZUsr> but i could i configure in Zenoss UI
[18-Jun-2008 14:56:48] <ZUsr> for individual
[18-Jun-2008 14:56:52] <ZUsr> webpages
[18-Jun-2008 14:58:20] <nemo_> check_httpd sounds like a nagios plugin
[18-Jun-2008 14:58:27] <ZUsr> yes
[18-Jun-2008 14:58:36] <nemo_> so go for that
[18-Jun-2008 14:59:29] <ZUsr> i ahve the command but how should i add it to the Zenoss system for monitoring the webpage
[18-Jun-2008 15:00:12] <nemo_> sounds like you need to read the docs
[18-Jun-2008 15:00:23] <ZUsr> here's the command check_http -H google.com -t 120 -u /index.html -s "Google"
[18-Jun-2008 15:00:42] <nemo_> i already know how to do it ;p
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:02] <ZUsr> so could you pls help me out
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:21] <nemo_> well if you read the docs, you dont need to ask me ;o)
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:33] <nemo_> but i will point out that going to settings->commands is a good start
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:49] <nemo_> ( to add a nagios style command that is )
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:08] <ZUsr> thanks for the info
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:13] <ZUsr> and your time
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:27] <nemo_> np, seriously tho, the admin guide has it all
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:36] <ZUsr> ya i know
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:43] <nemo_> the above isnt where to place nagios plugs
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:49] <nemo_> just a handy way to test commands
[18-Jun-2008 15:03:57] <mrayzenoss> thanks nemo_
[18-Jun-2008 15:04:54] <nemo_> for making ppl read the docs ?
[18-Jun-2008 15:05:03] <nemo_> i am sure it will make me win the popularity contest ;p
[18-Jun-2008 15:05:26] <mrayzenoss> well, politely pointing out where things are is much nicer than some alternatives
[18-Jun-2008 15:06:04] <mrayzenoss> I don't have the cycles to hang out here enough, so I appreciate seeing helpful answers
[18-Jun-2008 15:07:16] <nemo_> np
[18-Jun-2008 17:52:03] <ghettodev> anyone here had any problems trying to load a mib called SNMPv2-TC?
[18-Jun-2008 17:52:37] <ghettodev> seems to have been a lot of people in the forums talking about but not much in the way of resolution
[18-Jun-2008 18:25:31] <mib_naruto> I have a test to run on a device that is setup to send traps....How do I get that system to send me a trap for me catch in my event log?
[18-Jun-2008 18:27:57] <mib_naruto> I do not have admin access to the device so I can not make it send traps on demand
[18-Jun-2008 18:30:13] <ccesario> hello, its possible monitor one custom snmp oid ?
[18-Jun-2008 18:31:49] <mib_naruto> I believe you can...search the forums....for "interesting oids"
[18-Jun-2008 18:34:14] <ccesario> thanks mib_naruto
[18-Jun-2008 19:33:25] <ccesario> mib_naruto, I create one template
[18-Jun-2008 19:34:28] <ccesario> with my OID, when I test it in templates page I get sucess
[18-Jun-2008 19:34:32] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "122"
[18-Jun-2008 19:34:33] <ccesario> DONE in 1 seconds
[18-Jun-2008 19:35:24] <ccesario> But, in my devices, when I re-model the device, I get this message in events page
[18-Jun-2008 19:35:50] <ccesario> Error reading value for "radius_users" on 192.168.10.12 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1 is bad)
[18-Jun-2008 19:36:41] <ccesario> any idea ?
[18-Jun-2008 19:42:14] <ccesario> mib_naruto, and snmpwalk too works
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[19-Jun-2008 00:41:31] <ccesario_> hello
[19-Jun-2008 00:41:47] <ccesario_> somebody there ?
[19-Jun-2008 03:24:32] <justnuts> found out that there is a zen agent... is this available / still in dev?
[19-Jun-2008 03:25:30] <justnuts> some of our servers are behind "high security area" and we can't remote monitor them .. no tunnel is allowed ..hence i'm looking for an agent
[19-Jun-2008 04:19:08] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - The Future of Personal Data - 17 Jun, 02:06AM
[19-Jun-2008 04:19:09] <adytum-bot> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=194
[19-Jun-2008 06:17:17] <indika> Someone posted a shell script on mail list for monitoring listed OS process on linux server. It perfectly running for localhost. Is there any way to use it for remote server monitoring with zenoss
[19-Jun-2008 09:06:34] <nemo_> indika_, have you read the docs ( yes there is )
[19-Jun-2008 09:09:32] <indika_> nemo_, yes I tried with http example in doc
[19-Jun-2008 09:09:39] <indika_> It works..
[19-Jun-2008 09:09:57] <indika_> But my script don't take any arguments
[19-Jun-2008 09:10:42] <nemo_> Is there any way to use it for remote server monitoring with zenoss
[19-Jun-2008 09:10:51] <nemo_> that doesnt sound like someone who read the docs to me
[19-Jun-2008 09:11:24] <nemo_> i got no time to baby sit anyone, my advice: RTFM
[19-Jun-2008 09:13:36] <indika_> I need to use this script work to remoter servers http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21355#21355
[19-Jun-2008 09:13:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - [SOLVED] how to monitor OS process (at community.zenoss.com)
[19-Jun-2008 10:22:47] <choudesh> Hello - anyone around?
[19-Jun-2008 10:40:19] <ccesario> hello
[19-Jun-2008 10:40:57] <ccesario> I create one template, to get value from my "custom OID", but I getting error :/
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:06] <ccesario> Error reading value for "radius_users" on 192.168.10.12 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1 is bad)
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:27] <ccesario> but when I test it in templates page I get sucess
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:35] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "122"
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:59] <ccesario> somebody have any idea about fix this ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:26:15] <ccesario> hello ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:08] <nemo_> google on "Error reading value for"
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:15] <adytum-bot> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2008/015142.html
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:16] <nemo_> whats wrong with everyone who uses this channel ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:23] <nemo_> GOOGLE is your friend
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:31] <adytum-bot> http://www.maui.net/~zen_gtr/zgzinepg4.html
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:34] <ccesario> nemo_, I already search
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:50] <nemo_> its been discussed to death here
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:55] <ccesario> and I already tested with snmpwalk
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:00] <ccesario> as google suggest
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:03] <ccesario> and works
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:10] <ccesario> :/
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:16] <nemo_> your oid is an index.
[19-Jun-2008 11:31:40] <ccesario> nemo_, hmmm ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:31:54] <nemo_> sorry no time ccesario
[19-Jun-2008 11:32:14] <ccesario> snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.10.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1
[19-Jun-2008 11:32:14] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "47"
[19-Jun-2008 11:32:31] <ccesario> is wrong ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:45:54] <flo3455> hi there! is someone here motivated to answer a short question about zenoss?
[19-Jun-2008 11:50:12] <tarjei> flo3455: don't ask to ask. It is better to ask and if someone can answer, they will.
[19-Jun-2008 11:50:20] <ccesario> nemo_, solution ? :/
[19-Jun-2008 11:54:31] <nemo_> solution is i am too busy
[19-Jun-2008 12:06:36] <flo3455> oukay I receive data from a self written zenpack. all works fine, exept the updating of the data. it only updates while remodeling (every 6h), but not while the normal cycle (1min). What did I forget?
[19-Jun-2008 12:07:14] <flo3455> (the zenpack gets the state of windws services through SNMP instead of WMI)
[19-Jun-2008 12:52:24] <ccesario> hello ?
[19-Jun-2008 12:52:51] <ccesario> Error reading value for....... somebody have any idea ?
[19-Jun-2008 12:58:00] <malbon> hola all.
[19-Jun-2008 12:58:13] <malbon> Anyone using the zenpop3 daemon?
[19-Jun-2008 13:02:04] <malbon> ccesario: is that on SNMP?
[19-Jun-2008 13:03:29] <ccesario> malbon, yes
[19-Jun-2008 13:03:57] <ccesario> with snmpwalk work... and in zenoss test page work....
[19-Jun-2008 13:03:57] <malbon> ccesario: they're in blue right?
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:03] <ccesario> yes yes
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:07] <ccesario> blue blue blue
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:08] <ccesario> ehehehe
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:28] <malbon> ccesario: that means that zenoss cannot get the exact mib it is asking for. ie the device doesn't expose it.
[19-Jun-2008 13:06:14] <ccesario> hmmm, but how to solve it ?
[19-Jun-2008 13:06:31] <malbon> are you looking at Windows boxes?
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:24] <ccesario> malbon, no no
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:29] <ccesario> linux
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:52] <malbon> then you need to configure your net-snmp
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:54] <ccesario> malbon, is a simple script to return the total users un my radius
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:06] <ccesario> malbon, but i'm using this in cacti
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:16] <ccesario> I dont know if is the same method
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:22] <ccesario> but this works in cacti
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:37] <malbon> ok sounds like your template is slightly wrong
[19-Jun-2008 13:10:33] <ccesario> malbon, I'm testing this in my server test.... if you can view I can give access t you
[19-Jun-2008 13:10:43] <malbon> so in the case you have above you would need to use the oid ".1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.4.1.2.1.49.1"
[19-Jun-2008 13:11:21] <malbon> nope sorry, the company I work for doesn't allow for such things.
[19-Jun-2008 13:11:35] <malbon> the key with this sort of problem is not using snmpwalk but snmpget
[19-Jun-2008 13:11:57] <malbon> you need to get a specific value, once you've got that working, you're cooking with gas.
[19-Jun-2008 13:12:12] <ccesario> ok
[19-Jun-2008 13:12:20] <ccesario> malbon, let me change it
[19-Jun-2008 13:12:23] <ccesario> 2 min pls
[19-Jun-2008 13:13:25] <malbon> I gotta meeting in 2... so I may not be around long enough for you to test.
[19-Jun-2008 13:15:23] <ccesario> malbon, changed and re-model device
[19-Jun-2008 13:30:26] <ckrough> \quit
[19-Jun-2008 13:33:43] <jb> anybody here using enterprise 2.2?
[19-Jun-2008 13:51:13] <ccesario> malbon, I removed the device and create it
[19-Jun-2008 13:51:39] <ccesario> and I dont see the event with "bad oid"
[19-Jun-2008 13:52:29] <ccesario> but too I dont see the result in nothing local in device list
[19-Jun-2008 13:52:30] <ccesario> eheheh
[19-Jun-2008 13:55:41] <ccesario> malbon, ooooops
[19-Jun-2008 13:55:55] <ccesario> Error reading value for "radius_users" on 192.168.10.1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.4.1.2.1.49.1 is bad)
[19-Jun-2008 14:49:56] <malbon> ccesario: in that case your oid is bad.
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:14] <malbon> ccesario: try using snmpget to get it and find the exact value to plumb in.
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:45] <ccesario> snmpget -v 2c -c public 192.168.10.1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.4.1.2.1.49.1
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:51] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "57"
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:54] <ccesario>
[19-Jun-2008 14:51:42] <malbon> ccesario: ???? ok that shouldn't happen.
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:06] <ccesario> yes yes
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:19] <ccesario> let me remove all devices that have this OID
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:24] <ccesario> and restart services
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:31] <ccesario> onde moment to test it
[19-Jun-2008 15:11:39] <EekZ`> hi
[19-Jun-2008 15:35:29] <MoreDakka> Hey Everyone.
[19-Jun-2008 15:36:26] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 15:39:00] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[19-Jun-2008 16:10:21] <RediXe> Is there anyway to change the contents of the e-mail alerts you get when something has an error?
[19-Jun-2008 16:16:01] <MoreDakka> Settings -> Users -> Select User -> Alerting Rules -> Select Alerting Rule -> Message
[19-Jun-2008 16:19:15] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 16:19:17] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[19-Jun-2008 16:31:55] <RediXe> MoreDakka: Thanks ... is there a way to change the %(*Url)s ? ... having an issue where the email contents show links to the details/acknowledge/Delete/Device Events with only http://monitor:8080/**** instead of http://monitor.domain.com:8080/*****
[19-Jun-2008 16:32:43] <MoreDakka> I think that's the hostname of the machine then.....not 100% sure where to change that (has been brought up a million times though).
[19-Jun-2008 16:33:45] <RediXe> Well, Lego helped me yesterday and we checked the host name and it's all correct
[19-Jun-2008 16:37:42] <MoreDakka> Ah, there is a zenoss conf file you need to edit...which one...can't remember gimme a min.
[19-Jun-2008 16:38:47] <MoreDakka> $ZENHOME/etc/zenactions.conf
[19-Jun-2008 16:38:55] <MoreDakka> zopeurl http://your.server.here:8080
[19-Jun-2008 16:39:01] <MoreDakka> Yay for google.
[19-Jun-2008 16:40:03] <RediXe> lol, thanks. I will try to find that. I been googling forever but make just using the wrong search phrase
[19-Jun-2008 16:51:08] <MoreDakka> Now I just need help with my wmi issue >:-|
[19-Jun-2008 16:52:52] <Shurick> hi all
[19-Jun-2008 16:52:55] <Shurick> anyone alive?
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:17] <RediXe> Nope, it's pretty quiet around here.
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:27] <Shurick> have a small problem with zenoss
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:40] <Shurick> in os->filesystems it shows mounted fs
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:43] <Shurick> and size
[19-Jun-2008 16:54:02] <Shurick> but no data for Used bytes, Free bytes etc
[19-Jun-2008 16:54:21] <Shurick> i've checked forum and found nothing
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:22] <ccesario> malbon, Its working!
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:48] <ccesario> I removed all and restart zenoss services and re-create devices
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:49] <ccesario>
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:51] <ccesario> cool!
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:54] <ccesario> thanks
[19-Jun-2008 17:01:06] <genioreal> hi... when i install zenoss i have to install it on /usr/local the *.tar.gz or it can work fine on /home/ ? i mean for the export of the ZENHOME on the manual
[19-Jun-2008 17:11:24] <Shurick> bad ... it seems that zenoss uses only HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize
[19-Jun-2008 17:11:32] <Shurick> but not HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed
[19-Jun-2008 17:12:04] <Shurick> according to HRFileSystemMap.py
[19-Jun-2008 17:12:32] <Shurick> what is the name of collector that check free space also
[19-Jun-2008 17:13:22] <Shurick> or uses UCD-SNMP-MIB::dskAvail, UCD-SNMP-MIB::dskUsed etc. to get filesystem info?
[19-Jun-2008 17:26:07] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 17:26:12] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[19-Jun-2008 18:33:40] <cgibbons> hmm
[19-Jun-2008 18:34:14] <cgibbons> it doesn't see it go down at all, MoreDakka, or just not within a short enough time-frame?
[19-Jun-2008 18:57:11] <MoreDakka> cgibbons: It doesn't see it at all.
[19-Jun-2008 18:57:22] <MoreDakka> I think I stopped the server about 3 hours ago.
[19-Jun-2008 18:57:27] <MoreDakka> server == service
[19-Jun-2008 19:01:07] <MoreDakka> Well that's weird. The zen.zenwin log shows me that the service stopped but didn't create an alert or show me in the OS screen of the device.
[19-Jun-2008 19:02:18] <cgibbons> huh
[19-Jun-2008 19:03:29] <MoreDakka> In zenoss if you click on the device then go to OS tab the service still shows as up and the device status as green but the zenwin log shows WARNING zen.zenwin: monitoring.mydomain.com: WinHttpAutoProxySvc stopped
[19-Jun-2008 19:23:28] <cgibbons> lemme see what happens when I do it here
[19-Jun-2008 19:23:35] <cgibbons> what template are you using for that device, btw?
[19-Jun-2008 19:24:20] <MoreDakka> /device/windows
[19-Jun-2008 19:26:25] <MoreDakka> sorry /devices/server/windows
[19-Jun-2008 21:19:11] <malbon> ccesario: no prob.
[19-Jun-2008 21:19:35] <malbon> ccesario: The daemons themselves would have sorted it out if left for an hour or so.
[19-Jun-2008 21:21:43] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 21:21:46] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
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[20-Jun-2008 04:53:31] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 04:53:34] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[20-Jun-2008 07:40:00] <schojo> good morning
[20-Jun-2008 07:48:54] <Shurick> morning
[20-Jun-2008 08:06:10] <schojo> is it correct that zenoss comes with no mibs at all?
[20-Jun-2008 08:08:34] <Shurick> dunno, seems you may imports them, but it's useless for querying ...
[20-Jun-2008 08:31:29] <schojo> in what way?
[20-Jun-2008 08:32:04] <Shurick> mibs->add mib
[20-Jun-2008 08:51:31] <schojo> -_-
[20-Jun-2008 08:51:35] <schojo> thanks a lot
[20-Jun-2008 10:30:01] <ccesario> morning!
[20-Jun-2008 10:35:41] <ccesario> malbon, there ?
[20-Jun-2008 11:55:49] <Comradin> hiho
[20-Jun-2008 12:58:47] <Comradin> Is there some kind of best-practice doc on how to setup servers in the interface?
[20-Jun-2008 12:59:01] <Comradin> am currently struggling with my devices and the services they provide
[20-Jun-2008 12:59:17] <Comradin> and how to group them
[20-Jun-2008 13:02:34] <Comradin> made the error with trying to get a server into more than one device group
[20-Jun-2008 13:02:46] <Comradin> trying to group them by the services they provide
[20-Jun-2008 13:24:32] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 13:24:33] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[20-Jun-2008 13:37:12] <cgibbons> im still hoping to test this for you this morning & look into it further, MoreDakka. hopefully
[20-Jun-2008 13:53:50] <MoreDakka> Ah...heh, good to see you...thought I lost you yesterday ;-)
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:17] <MoreDakka> Well it's weird. Now, without any changes, zenoss has started alerting and showing the services as down.
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:42] <MoreDakka> Does a device have to be in zenoss for a certain amount of time before it will start reporting on services?
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:53] <Comradin> Ouch, tried to delete an alerting rule and got this error:
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:54] <Comradin> Type: ConflictError
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:56] <Comradin> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x6c5e, class Products.ZenEvents.ActionRule.ActionRule)
[20-Jun-2008 13:55:58] <cgibbons> no, although depending upon what state the zenoss daemons were in one might have needed to be restarted (zenhub especially needs to be updated after upgrades, etc.)
[20-Jun-2008 13:56:37] <MoreDakka> This is a fresh VM Appliance download with only the one device in it.
[20-Jun-2008 13:57:16] <Comradin> just did a restart of the services
[20-Jun-2008 13:57:27] <Comradin> lets have a look what will happen now
[20-Jun-2008 13:57:39] <MoreDakka> On a windows box?
[20-Jun-2008 13:58:06] <MoreDakka> Zenoss actually sent me my first alerts yesterday at 9pmish.
[20-Jun-2008 13:58:42] <cgibbons> ok that's even weirder then hmm
[20-Jun-2008 13:58:54] <cgibbons> im downloading the latest appliance now just to see if i can recreate that
[20-Jun-2008 13:59:58] <MoreDakka> when I killed the services the first time (after enabling monitoring on those services) at about 9am
[20-Jun-2008 14:00:07] <MoreDakka> So about a 12 hour window for the first alerts of notifications.
[20-Jun-2008 14:00:23] <MoreDakka> But now when I stop a service I get a message within a couple minutes.
[20-Jun-2008 14:00:48] <MoreDakka> Oh btw thanks for your help ;-)
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:01] <cgibbons> only 185 KB/s on this download *twiddle thumbs*
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:14] <MoreDakka> ahha
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:20] <ccesario> hey.... I create one template in /devices but I only that selected hosts usage this template..... how to I make this ?
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:23] <MoreDakka> Yeah I like my cable at home.
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:40] <ccesario> my all hosts is tryning usage this template O_o
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:51] <MoreDakka> because you created that template in the devices directory.
[20-Jun-2008 14:04:16] <MoreDakka> create a sub class
[20-Jun-2008 14:04:30] <MoreDakka> and put the devices that you want to use that template in there and assign that template to that sub-class
[20-Jun-2008 14:05:24] <ccesario> hmmmm
[20-Jun-2008 14:05:33] <ccesario> thanks MoreDakka
[20-Jun-2008 14:06:17] <MoreDakka> Yep. If you change the template in the /Devices class every device that is assigned the / class will use that template.
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:04] <Shurick> ok, so if some are alive please help a bit
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:18] <Shurick> zenoss doens't show free space
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:23] <Shurick> only total. via snmp
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:54] <MoreDakka> I'm alive but snmp troubleshooting is not my strong point...srry
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:09] <Shurick> i've checked script - it doesn't get .6 oid where free space is kept for each partition
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:22] <cgibbons> windows devices, shurick?
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:28] <Shurick> no. freebsd
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:47] <cgibbons> lesee if we have any of those loaded up here
[20-Jun-2008 14:11:47] <cgibbons> which template are those devices using?
[20-Jun-2008 14:11:57] <cgibbons> 95% on that download - moredakka
[20-Jun-2008 14:11:57] <Shurick> script (according to its source) get values like HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageDescr.1 and HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.1
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:14] <Shurick> but doesn't get values from HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed.1
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:19] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming they should be in /Devices/server/linux right?
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:27] <Shurick> no
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:57] <Shurick> script used is zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[20-Jun-2008 14:14:01] <Shurick> i can modify and add '.6': 'usedBlocks' after '.5': 'totalBlocks'
[20-Jun-2008 14:14:37] <Shurick> but i'm not sure if 'usedBlocks' will be right name for zenoss to understand it and fill values in db correctly
[20-Jun-2008 14:15:20] <Shurick> btw, how large your db and perf data are?
[20-Jun-2008 14:15:52] <Shurick> i've have ~500 devices and one day monitoring eats ~200mb of space
[20-Jun-2008 14:17:58] <cgibbons> hey mat
[20-Jun-2008 14:18:03] <cgibbons> matt, even
[20-Jun-2008 14:19:33] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[20-Jun-2008 14:20:12] <jb> mornin..
[20-Jun-2008 14:32:38] <Sopapa> hi
[20-Jun-2008 14:32:42] <Sopapa> anyone there?
[20-Jun-2008 14:33:06] <Comradin> no, we're all asleep
[20-Jun-2008 14:33:27] <Sopapa> what time is there
[20-Jun-2008 14:33:32] <cgibbons> well that figures, my vmware locked up
[20-Jun-2008 14:34:54] <Sopapa> a quick question, i create a custom schema with a name cVLAN, then i modify my template for devicestatus
[20-Jun-2008 14:35:12] <Sopapa> i wanna fill the cVLAN value with a datapoint, is that possible?
[20-Jun-2008 14:35:33] <MoreDakka> haha
[20-Jun-2008 14:36:01] <Sopapa> i modify my template for show the custom schema
[20-Jun-2008 14:36:33] <Sopapa> but how i fill the cVLAN value with a snmp query?
[20-Jun-2008 14:37:58] <Sopapa> i cant find that in the docs
[20-Jun-2008 14:40:15] <cgibbons> looks like i get to reboot, brb
[20-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <Sopapa> some can help?
[20-Jun-2008 14:45:20] <Comradin> I guess you have to do your own query?
[20-Jun-2008 14:45:58] <Sopapa> yea a create a a template for query data,
[20-Jun-2008 14:46:13] <Sopapa> then i query how many vlan i have in a hub
[20-Jun-2008 14:46:23] <Sopapa> and i wanna show in the status page
[20-Jun-2008 14:46:41] * Comradin is a zenoss noob fighting with the documentation
[20-Jun-2008 14:48:06] <Sopapa> i wanna associate that query (i make a datapoint) with the custom schema field
[20-Jun-2008 14:48:11] <Sopapa> i donw know how
[20-Jun-2008 14:58:25] <Sopapa> well.... so noone can help me..?
[20-Jun-2008 17:16:35] <xxkozxx> Anyone here available for a quick question?
[20-Jun-2008 17:20:41] <xxkozxx> hello?
[20-Jun-2008 17:20:45] <xxkozxx> anyone here?
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:09] <nemo_> irc != support
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:14] <nemo_> talk and ppl might answer
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:23] <nemo_> if they know something.
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:34] <nemo_> reading the docs before asking questions is the best idea
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenwinmodeler stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zeneventlog stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenwin stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenprocess stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zencommand stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:49] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenperfsnmp stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:51] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenmodeler stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:53] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zentrap already stopped
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:55] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenactions stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:57] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenstatus stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:59] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zensyslog stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:01] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenping stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:03] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenhub stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:05] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zopectl . . daemon process stopped
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:07] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zeoctl . daemon process stopped
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:09] <xxkozxx> er......
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:11] <xxkozxx> wrong past
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:13] <xxkozxx> I'm having a problem with zentrap
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:15] <xxkozxx> the daemon wont start
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:16] <nemo_> can i suggest a tool like pastebin ?
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:31] <nemo_> are you doing this as root ?
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:33] <xxkozxx> I read the forums and checked netstat
[20-Jun-2008 17:23:00] <xxkozxx> I have nothing else listening on that port
[20-Jun-2008 17:23:02] <nemo_> that script should be run as the user zenoss
[20-Jun-2008 17:23:12] <nemo_> su - zenoss ; zenoss restart
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:06] <xxkozxx> ok...sorry I am trying that now.
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:13] <xxkozxx> I'm a little new to this product
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:28] <nemo_> you might need to repair some permissions if files are now owned by root etc
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:37] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zentrap starting...
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:37] <xxkozxx> ZenSocket Error: Unable to bind to listen port (error code 98)
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:41] <xxkozxx> thats what I get
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:45] <nemo_> yes i understand, we all made the same mistakes ;p thats why i remember them
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:46] <xxkozxx> but only for zentrap
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:55] <nemo_> do you trap anything ?
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:59] <xxkozxx> everything else runs just fine
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:02] <nemo_> i would not worry about zentrap for now
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:21] <xxkozxx> ok.......another question......
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:42] <nemo_> i am going home
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:43] <xxkozxx> I am assuming that if I want to upgrade to 2.2 that I would need the native RPM's?
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:46] <nemo_> read the manual
[20-Jun-2008 17:26:36] <nemo_> seriously all these things are discussed in the forums and documented
[20-Jun-2008 17:26:43] <nemo_> there are much bigger problems to solve !
[20-Jun-2008 17:26:47] <nemo_> bye for now
[20-Jun-2008 17:27:07] <xxkozxx> yeah thanks
[20-Jun-2008 17:27:49] <xxkozxx> great
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:02] <xxkozxx> wonderfull attitude....
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:10] <xxkozxx> makes me want to buy the enterprise edition
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:19] <xxkozxx> whatever........
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:21] <xxkozxx> exit
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:26] <xxkozxx> I need help with an RPM install failing
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:39] <xxkozxx> Here is what I am getting and I can't find documentation on this anywhere
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> warning: zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID aa5a1ad7
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> Cannot install rpm; Previous installation exists at /opt/zenoss
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> error: %pre(zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 255
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0
[20-Jun-2008 17:47:12] <xxkozxx> I am upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 17:47:34] <xxkozxx> running on Fedora Core 6
[20-Jun-2008 17:47:41] <xxkozxx> Any ideas?
[20-Jun-2008 17:48:15] <xxkozxx> I found two forum entries with the same problem but no resolution posted
[20-Jun-2008 18:12:43] <Sopapa> hi?
[20-Jun-2008 18:12:56] <xxkozxx> hi
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:28] <Sopapa> cna you help me with a problem with my zenoss?
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:38] <xxkozxx> I'm just a user but I can try
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:43] <Sopapa> ok
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:44] <xxkozxx> depends on the problem
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:47] <Sopapa> ok
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:24] <Sopapa> i wanna create a custom field like for exmaple description is OS TAB and fill it with a snmp query
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:40] <xxkozxx> yeah that I can't help you with
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:42] <xxkozxx> sorry
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:50] <Sopapa> ok no problem thnks anyway
[20-Jun-2008 18:15:00] <xxkozxx> no problem
[20-Jun-2008 18:15:28] <Sopapa> the docs dont explain very good
[20-Jun-2008 18:15:48] <xxkozxx> yeah I know
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:00] <xxkozxx> I am trying to do an upgrade right now from 2.1
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:02] <xxkozxx> to 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:06] <xxkozxx> and can't get it to work
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:08] <Sopapa> je...
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:18] <Sopapa> this is my first installation
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:29] <Sopapa> so i cant help you
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:50] <xxkozxx> I hear ya
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:52] <Sopapa> but no ones talks here
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:54] <xxkozxx> How do you like it so far?
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:14] <xxkozxx> yeah earlier I got one person to talk and they were pretty rude about my questions
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:32] <Sopapa> i dont know why ...
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:36] <xxkozxx> As an IT Director it doesn't give me a warm fuzzy about buying their enterprise product
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:53] <xxkozxx> considering the product is decent and I could see a need to expand on it
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:06] <Sopapa> maybe because of that they be very rude
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:07] <xxkozxx> I am basically beta testing it right now to see where I want to go
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:20] <xxkozxx> yeah maybe
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:59] <Sopapa> you can try opennms
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:11] <Sopapa> its similar to zenoss i think
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:11] <xxkozxx> is that any good?
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:20] <xxkozxx> I might have to look into that.
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:39] <Sopapa> did you try nagios?
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:47] <xxkozxx> yeah but I didn't like it
[20-Jun-2008 18:22:15] <Sopapa> GroundWork ?
[20-Jun-2008 18:22:38] <Sopapa> zabixx its very good but its beta
[20-Jun-2008 18:26:33] <cgibbons> xxkozxx - on your RPM problem is that a fresh install or an upgrade?
[20-Jun-2008 18:26:52] <xxkozxx> upgrade
[20-Jun-2008 18:27:10] <cgibbons> were you doing a -i or a -U to rpm?
[20-Jun-2008 18:28:05] <xxkozxx> I followed
[20-Jun-2008 18:28:11] <xxkozxx> the documentation on the website
[20-Jun-2008 18:28:26] <xxkozxx> and it says to do rpm -Uvh
[20-Jun-2008 18:29:29] <cgibbons> k good, and your previous install was a zenoss-stack RPM or just a zenoss RPM?
[20-Jun-2008 18:29:39] <xxkozxx> just an RPM
[20-Jun-2008 18:30:28] <cgibbons> pretty sure the stack RPM can't be used to upgrade a stand-alone RPM, but lemme check on that real quick
[20-Jun-2008 18:30:34] <xxkozxx> k
[20-Jun-2008 18:30:48] <cgibbons> (stack includes all the dependencies like mysql, etc.)
[20-Jun-2008 18:31:17] <xxkozxx> well there is not an RPM download
[20-Jun-2008 18:31:20] <xxkozxx> they are all stacks
[20-Jun-2008 18:32:42] <cgibbons> i see the non-stack RPMs on the site, the 'compiled RPM' links
[20-Jun-2008 18:33:08] <cgibbons> at least on the www.zenoss.com/download site. you grab it from there or from sourceforge directly?
[20-Jun-2008 18:34:32] <xxkozxx> ok do you have a link to that because I am not seeing that
[20-Jun-2008 18:34:35] <cgibbons> sure
[20-Jun-2008 18:34:58] <cgibbons> what platform? rhel? centos?
[20-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <xxkozxx> fedora core
[20-Jun-2008 18:35:10] <xxkozxx> 6
[20-Jun-2008 18:36:18] <xxkozxx> and um...this may be a stupid question but how do you clean the .bin file install out?
[20-Jun-2008 18:36:51] <xxkozxx> I moved my old directory and tried the bin installer
[20-Jun-2008 18:37:03] <xxkozxx> and now its throwing all kinds of emacs keymap errors
[20-Jun-2008 18:37:18] <xxkozxx> I just want to get that out of there and install the RPM
[20-Jun-2008 18:37:50] <cgibbons> fedora core 6 is ~= as rhel 5, so you could grab the rpm for rhel 5 x86 - http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-2.2.0-0.el5.i386.rpm
[20-Jun-2008 18:39:28] <xxkozxx> Thank you very much!
[20-Jun-2008 18:39:56] <cgibbons> hope it works =)
[20-Jun-2008 18:40:11] <xxkozxx> Is there a way to remove the stack install?
[20-Jun-2008 18:40:22] <Sopapa> cgi remeber my question .. how to fill a custom field?
[20-Jun-2008 18:40:41] <cgibbons> yeah unfortunately i dunno how sopapa, i was browsing the manual myself trying to guess
[20-Jun-2008 18:41:21] <Sopapa> je ok thaks
[20-Jun-2008 18:42:04] <Sopapa> now i can use the custom shema value using here/cVLAN
[20-Jun-2008 18:42:30] <Sopapa> but nothing abuout set cVLan with snmp result
[20-Jun-2008 18:45:11] <Sopapa> i will ask the forum
[20-Jun-2008 19:56:55] <jb> 2.2.1 is available/
[20-Jun-2008 19:56:57] <jb> ?
[20-Jun-2008 20:19:27] <MoreDakka_> Anyone know why the emails from Zenoss are coming on time but the time in my inbox for them shows 5 hours ealier?
[20-Jun-2008 20:28:13] <cgibbons> sounds like exactly the time difference between Central and GMT right now
[20-Jun-2008 20:31:06] <MoreDakka_> The logs in zenoss, mail logs and the time in the message all show the message leaving the server at 1pm. However in my inbox they show up at 8am
[20-Jun-2008 21:28:38] <MoreDakka_> Can you lock users down so if you have lets say a client that wants to log in to view their systems, can you make it so they can only view a specific location or group and nothing else? Or ever just the dashboard with no menus?
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[23-Jun-2008 04:13:49] <[ID]-7101> 13hi guys~
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[23-Jun-2008 04:15:37] <wwhhtt> 12i need help on zenmib...
[23-Jun-2008 04:15:39] <wwhhtt> 12anyone?
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[23-Jun-2008 04:25:32] <wwhhtt> 12hi room~
[23-Jun-2008 06:33:11] * ToeiRei waves hello.
[23-Jun-2008 06:34:35] <wwhhtt> 4¶Ô 14ToeiRei 4˵ 12hi hi
[23-Jun-2008 06:34:49] <wwhhtt> 4¶Ô 6ToeiRei 4˵ 12r u using zenoss?
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:19] <ToeiRei> not yet, wwhhtt
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:35] <wwhhtt> 12oh
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:37] <wwhhtt> 12ok
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:47] <wwhhtt> 12i have some problem with it
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:51] <ToeiRei> I'm currently using nagios, but its config is a pain in the ass.
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:52] <wwhhtt> 12i was hoping u can help me
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:00] <wwhhtt> 12sure thing
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:00] <ToeiRei> well... got an error message?
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:10] <wwhhtt> 12i was using nagios too
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:14] <wwhhtt> 12and hated it
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:54] <wwhhtt> 12i was tring to use zenmib to load some mib files
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:04] <wwhhtt> 12and they all get skipped
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:48] <ToeiRei> what's the error message?
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:55] <ToeiRei> is there anything in a logfile?
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:56] <wwhhtt> 12no error
[23-Jun-2008 06:38:03] <wwhhtt> 12no...
[23-Jun-2008 06:38:42] <wwhhtt> 12normally after a mib file get loaded, i will have some Nodes & Notifications
[23-Jun-2008 06:38:56] <wwhhtt> 12with a list of all the OIDs
[23-Jun-2008 06:39:13] <wwhhtt> 12but at the moment i got 0 Nodes and 0 Notifications
[23-Jun-2008 06:39:33] <wwhhtt> 12even the zenmib said it's loaded sucessfully
[23-Jun-2008 06:42:02] <wwhhtt> 12i am using v 2.2 on a Fedora 7 box
[23-Jun-2008 06:42:14] <wwhhtt> 12it was all ok when i was using v 2.1.3
[23-Jun-2008 06:42:29] <ToeiRei> I'm on gentoo...
[23-Jun-2008 06:43:25] <Shurick> btw, is there any ideas how to get free space without *cmd* plugins? only with snmp queries? according to python script it check only total space for partitions
[23-Jun-2008 06:45:33] <Shurick> i mean plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[23-Jun-2008 07:12:37] <MrTux> hi
[23-Jun-2008 07:15:56] <wwhhtt> 12hi
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[23-Jun-2008 12:58:32] <nomego> heya guys
[23-Jun-2008 12:58:54] <nomego> we've been using nagios to monitor or clients' servers and devices, but are now trying out zenoss
[23-Jun-2008 12:59:18] <nomego> what would we need to do to monitor our clients' devices remotely with zenoss?
[23-Jun-2008 12:59:45] <nomego> would we need a collector installed at every client? would it have to run on linux?
[23-Jun-2008 13:00:42] <Shurcik> it may be possible to query running services remotely via snmp
[23-Jun-2008 13:00:57] <Shurcik> or to run some scripst remotely via ssh
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:11] <Shurcik> or install client agent on each node
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:21] <nomego> client agent?
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:37] <linash__> It does seams secure to allow snmp queries from outiside the network, but maybe with a VPN
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:48] <linash__> *dos not
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:57] <linash__> *does not
[23-Jun-2008 13:02:06] <nomego> could zenwin passively report back to the zenoss server through http(s)?
[23-Jun-2008 13:02:49] <Shurcik> lin, you can use snmp v3
[23-Jun-2008 13:04:05] <nomego> so is there an agent I can install on windows servers for them to report to a central server?
[23-Jun-2008 13:04:48] <Shurcik> for windows it uses wmi calls
[23-Jun-2008 13:04:55] <nomego> since there are so many clients with non-unique networks and diverse firewall equipment, VPN is pretty much out of the question
[23-Jun-2008 13:09:47] <linash__> nomego, the enterprise edition does allow a global dashboard from multiple zenoss instance (one being on your client's network) don't know the details though, Also I think It's possible to set up multiple collectors with the core version
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:08] <linash__> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:11] <nomego> but can I install a standalone collector (focus on small memory footprint/low resource usage) and only configure what hosts to collect from and where to send the data?
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:19] <nomego> thanks
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:27] <__adytum-bot> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Jun-2008 13:18:55] <nomego> hmm.. seems a little bit much to install a complete zenoss server on every client
[23-Jun-2008 13:52:41] <linash__> nomego, That's not it. You just need to install it one one machine in the network. It will pool the other. Fundamentally zenoss is an agent-less monitoring system it ideally uses only snmp or wmi
[23-Jun-2008 13:54:01] <nomego> Well, the networks aren't connected
[23-Jun-2008 13:54:51] <nomego> And I don't really have the computing power on the servers to put a zenoss server on a server on each client
[23-Jun-2008 13:54:59] <linash__> so you will need just 1 zenoss colector/server instance on the monitored network and make it report make to the main instance
[23-Jun-2008 13:55:23] <linash__> *it report back
[23-Jun-2008 13:56:28] <Shurcik> btw, someone solved the problem that zenoss doesn't show free space at target node? only total
[23-Jun-2008 13:56:47] <nomego> I was aiming to solve it as we have with nagios - just a service that scans the eventlogs, diskspace, etc and sends the results to a central server
[23-Jun-2008 13:57:12] <nomego> I don't plan on installing the 15 services and mysql on a server at each client
[23-Jun-2008 13:58:14] <linash__> nomego, is that not easier than setting up a service/nagios agent on each client?
[23-Jun-2008 13:58:46] <nomego> no
[23-Jun-2008 13:59:41] <nomego> and it really doesn't matter what's easier unless it differs by a lot, I just don't want to take that much resources from a server just for monitoring
[23-Jun-2008 14:00:06] <nomego> windows tend to use much resources by itself...
[23-Jun-2008 14:00:49] <linash__> nomego, if you just settup an snmp collector you won't need the full mysql server (just python on one machine)
[23-Jun-2008 14:03:38] <linash__> (that's my link was about)
[23-Jun-2008 14:04:20] <nomego> and how much resources does zope use?
[23-Jun-2008 14:05:52] <linash__> maybe 50MB and 10% cpu for less than 100 snmp node (maybe more if you use wmi)
[23-Jun-2008 14:06:24] <linash__> (I didn't try this configuration though)
[23-Jun-2008 14:08:11] <Shurcik> for ~1500 nodes it eats space very quickly
[23-Jun-2008 14:08:46] <linash__> Shurcik, even if you use a distant hub?
[23-Jun-2008 14:08:59] <Shurcik> i mean central server
[23-Jun-2008 14:09:05] <linash__> yeah
[23-Jun-2008 14:09:28] <linash__> the collector won't need much
[23-Jun-2008 14:09:37] <Shurcik> distant hub doesn't consume much resources
[23-Jun-2008 14:15:09] <linash__> Shurcik, you free space issue, was that on windows nodes? or linux?
[23-Jun-2008 14:17:48] <Shurcik> linux/freebsd/solaris/cisco
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:08] <linash__> zenoss 2.2?
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:30] <Shurcik> yep
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:47] <linash__> same issue here, then
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:51] <linash__> ;(
[23-Jun-2008 14:20:35] <Shurcik> what do you mean?
[23-Jun-2008 14:20:59] <linash__> only total on my test freebsdnode
[23-Jun-2008 14:21:18] <Shurcik> i've checked the corrsponding script
[23-Jun-2008 14:21:37] <Shurcik> it doesn't pull appropriate OIDs
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <linash__> ok, do you know if this fixed in the svn version?
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:21] <Shurcik> dunno
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:48] <Shurcik> you may use cmd plugin that runs on the remote site via ssh
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:49] <linash__> ok, I'm checking the svn to see if things are better.
[23-Jun-2008 14:23:02] <Shurcik> and parses output of df -k command
[23-Jun-2008 14:23:46] <linash__> will not it be faster to correct the OID number?
[23-Jun-2008 14:24:33] <Shurcik> well, i know OIDs but doesn't know how zenoss will parse numbers internally
[23-Jun-2008 14:25:45] <Shurcik> check this subtree - .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1
[23-Jun-2008 14:26:13] <Shurcik> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.3.xxx contain mounted file systems
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:03] <Shurcik> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.5.xxx contain total space
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:17] <Shurcik> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6.xxx - contain free space
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:17] <linash__> ok, thx
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:34] <Shurcik> but python script checks only [1-5].xxx
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:38] <Shurcik> not 6.xxx
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:08] <linash__> Shurcik, where is the script/
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:11] <linash__> ?
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:29] <Shurcik> plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <Shurcik> in zenoss directory
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:47] <Shurcik> zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[23-Jun-2008 14:29:43] <linash__> ok thx, I will look at it if its not fixed in svn. I will tell you if I find something
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:11] <Shurcik> check 'colums' array
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:23] <Shurcik> there're 1 to 5 numbers defined
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:29] <Shurcik> but not 6
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:41] <Shurcik> moreover
[23-Jun-2008 14:31:04] <Shurcik> there's one more OID subtree if ucd-snmp is running
[23-Jun-2008 14:31:40] <Shurcik> it's .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.9
[23-Jun-2008 14:32:43] <Shurcik> it has disk devices/partitions, total, used, percentage free values
[23-Jun-2008 14:41:58] <linash__> Shurcik, seams like the svn for this file hasn't changed for the last 3 months...
[23-Jun-2008 14:43:52] <Shurcik> bad
[23-Jun-2008 14:44:09] <Shurcik> i can add another member to array
[23-Jun-2008 14:44:25] <Shurcik> but has no idea what zenoss will do with new data
[23-Jun-2008 14:44:50] <Shurcik> can it understand how to store free space value?
[23-Jun-2008 14:45:00] <Shurcik> and where? and how to display it
[23-Jun-2008 14:45:42] <linash__> yeah, where is the ticket for this?
[23-Jun-2008 14:46:32] <Shurcik> from me? no ticket yet i check zenoss forum deeply - may be someone already solve this
[23-Jun-2008 14:59:18] <linash__> Shurcik, seams like my freebsd node was down when i checked the issue and now it works well for me!
[23-Jun-2008 15:00:37] <linash__> And it seams that HRFileSystemMap.py has nothing to do with it: it's configured in the template /Devices/Server/Templates/FileSystem
[23-Jun-2008 15:00:54] <Shurcik> hm ...
[23-Jun-2008 15:01:04] <Shurcik> what collector do i need to add?
[23-Jun-2008 15:02:41] <Shurcik> ok, i've already have nodes discovered. what and where should i add/change?
[23-Jun-2008 15:03:12] <linash__> are they in the /device/server class?
[23-Jun-2008 15:03:34] <linash__> (/device/server/linux)
[23-Jun-2008 15:04:22] <Shurcik> it's not linux, it's freebsd
[23-Jun-2008 15:04:22] <linash__> it's through manage/change class
[23-Jun-2008 15:04:41] <linash__> should work the same
[23-Jun-2008 15:05:02] <Shurcik> ok, moment, i'll move from discovered to server/linux
[23-Jun-2008 15:07:08] <linash__> but I did add the server/freebsd class myself. (the server/linux class does not contain any special template any way, just check that the binded collectors are the same)
[23-Jun-2008 15:08:31] <Shurcik> ok, freebsd is added now
[23-Jun-2008 15:08:58] <DarylVoip> Hi all - trying to get my firsr Nagios plug in working and having some trouble. I'm trying to use check_iax. It seems to work in the template that I made, and I applied it to the asterix box device node. It seems to work (or not even get applied) on one asterisk box, but it failing on the other 11. Any idea where I can get started on checking logs, etc.?
[23-Jun-2008 15:10:51] <Shurcik> ok, changed class to /servers/freebsd
[23-Jun-2008 15:11:26] <linash__> DarylVoip, see log/zencommand.log
[23-Jun-2008 15:11:45] <Shurcik> now box appears in freebsd class
[23-Jun-2008 15:12:27] <Shurcik> so i changed to box and select OS tab
[23-Jun-2008 15:12:35] <linash__> and???
[23-Jun-2008 15:12:37] <Shurcik> no filesystems are present
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:39] <Shurcik> should i choose menu->more->collector plugins?
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:53] <DarylVoip> Hmmm....DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Command: '/bin/sh -c exec /usr/local/zenoss/common/libexec/check_iax -H 10.190.0.169 -p 30 -w 1'
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:54] <DarylVoip> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Output: 'Unknown error \n'
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:54] <Shurcik> or file systems->add filesystem?
[23-Jun-2008 15:14:00] <DarylVoip> OK...that give me more info at least.
[23-Jun-2008 15:14:39] <linash__> Shurcik, see if you have the same collectors as the linux class
[23-Jun-2008 15:16:30] <Shurcik> the same as in linux class
[23-Jun-2008 15:16:39] <linash__> DarylVoip, see if it works when running the command manually as the zenoss user
[23-Jun-2008 15:16:56] <linash__> Shurcik, try trigger a new modelling
[23-Jun-2008 15:17:21] <DarylVoip> Yes...it actually is. But it seems to be choking on some of the IP addresses - it's odd. But appears to be a command-related issue at this point, not Zenoss.
[23-Jun-2008 15:17:21] <Shurcik> alredy done. let's wait fo results
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:03] <DarylVoip> One big difference is that Zenoss i using the internal (eth0) address of these boxes, and I'd rather have it use their public (eth1) address. Is there any way to set that for the devices?
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:05] <Shurcik> loggin output ...
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:16] <DarylVoip> Looks like it just uses whatever is on eth0 by default
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:33] <Shurcik> you may set outgoin address
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:38] <Shurcik> in zproperties
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:00] <Shurcik> scan time: 59.67 seconds. configuration collected
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:23] <Shurcik> no file system present again
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:39] <linash__> DarylVoip, that would configured through the default route
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:56] <Shurcik> but performance tab prints graphs
[23-Jun-2008 15:20:05] <Shurcik> it's better than nothing
[23-Jun-2008 15:20:39] <DarylVoip> linash__: My deafult route is on the public IP (eth1) for each of these boxes.
[23-Jun-2008 15:21:44] <DarylVoip> Shurcik - What do I use to set it? the zLocalIpAddresses property?
[23-Jun-2008 15:21:58] <Shurcik> well, how to set speed of loopback? there're a lot of events like: lo0 - threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded
[23-Jun-2008 15:22:07] <Shurcik> DarylVoip - yeah, i think so
[23-Jun-2008 15:22:17] <DarylVoip> Looks like a regex
[23-Jun-2008 15:23:28] <linash__> Shurcik, maybe just lock the loopback to not be monitored
[23-Jun-2008 15:24:25] <Shurcik> will just drop data or simply doesn't display or analyze it?
[23-Jun-2008 15:24:40] <Shurcik> how may i do that for all boxes in one time?
[23-Jun-2008 15:25:13] <Shurcik> hmm... Error reading value for "ssCpuRawWait" (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.54.0 is bad)
[23-Jun-2008 15:29:14] <linash__> Shurcik, I don't know how to disable the loopback for all node at once. I don't think this could be implemented easily as the name is different for each OS and its OID index is not even the same.
[23-Jun-2008 15:30:24] <Shurcik> i know that OID index will different
[23-Jun-2008 15:30:34] <linash__> the ip should still be the same though (127.0.0.1/8) so maybe through a script or something
[23-Jun-2008 15:30:45] <Shurcik> i suppose may be some regex to filter ...
[23-Jun-2008 15:31:46] <linash__> Shurcik, If you succeed I'm interested ;-)
[23-Jun-2008 15:36:20] <linash__> Shurcik, for scripting see: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/edit-device-info/ and http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-call-a-method-using-rest/
[23-Jun-2008 15:36:48] <__adytum-bot> Title: Edit Device Info - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Jun-2008 15:36:49] <__adytum-bot> Title: How To Call A Method Using Rest - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Jun-2008 15:37:28] <Shurcik> thx
[23-Jun-2008 15:53:34] <Shurcik> btw, how to delete events completely?
[23-Jun-2008 15:53:46] <Shurcik> or clean event history
[23-Jun-2008 16:00:41] <linash__> Shurcik, history is clean automaticaly I think, but if you have a lot of event/device it might not be enough...
[23-Jun-2008 16:01:16] <linash__> Shurcik, btw I found the base URL for REST scripting to disable the loopback interface:
[23-Jun-2008 16:01:34] <linash__> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/FreeBSD/devices/NODE_NAME_HERE/os/interfaces/lo?monitor:boolean=False&zmanage_editProperties:method=+Save+
[23-Jun-2008 16:02:59] <Shurcik> i simply delete lo0 interface from node
[23-Jun-2008 16:03:11] <Shurcik> deleted
[23-Jun-2008 16:03:30] <linash__> bye
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[23-Jun-2008 18:05:27] <tessier_> I could have sworn that zenoss stored everything in zodb.
[23-Jun-2008 18:05:43] <tessier_> But our latest install of zenoss 2.2 seems to store everything in mysql.
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:06] <linash> tessier, even the templates?
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:08] <tessier_> My sysadmin just told me that our events table is corrupted. I was surprised to hear of a corrupt zodb. He tells me it's mysql.
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:23] <tessier_> linash: Not sure. At this point I'm not sure what is stored in zodb and what is stored in mysql.
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:45] <linash> I think events have always been in mysql
[23-Jun-2008 18:07:23] <linash> (well that's the name of the database)
[23-Jun-2008 18:10:18] <jb> events has always been mysql..
[23-Jun-2008 18:10:43] <tessier_> but everything else is in zodb?
[23-Jun-2008 18:10:59] <tessier_> Or events db is corrupted. Think we can just delete it and have zenoss recreate?
[23-Jun-2008 18:11:35] <jb> yeah, everything else is zodb
[23-Jun-2008 18:11:47] <jb> well, I havent had that problem yet, so im not sure :/
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[24-Jun-2008 14:17:12] <ccesario> hello...
[24-Jun-2008 14:21:16] <ccesario> Is possible make "escalonation" hosts verify ..... parent/children.... ?
[24-Jun-2008 14:39:44] <Bulwinkle> ccesario: I don't understand your question
[24-Jun-2008 14:41:51] <MoreDakka> Maybe he is talking about dependencies?
[24-Jun-2008 14:42:23] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle: Can users be locked down to view only specific devices?
[24-Jun-2008 14:44:45] <ccesario> yes dependecies
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:04] <ccesario> Bulwinkle, eheh I dont get 1212172771 mails in my mailbox.....
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:10] <ccesario> ehehhe
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:17] <ccesario> understand ?
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:39] <Bulwinkle> ccesario: not really
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:56] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: not to the best of my knowledge
[24-Jun-2008 14:46:18] <ccesario> Bulwinkle, Hosts hierarchy ....
[24-Jun-2008 14:46:24] <MoreDakka> Router1 -Router2 - switch - device <- If Router1 goes down it doesn't alert on Router2, switch and device...right?
[24-Jun-2008 14:47:19] <ccesario> MoreDakka, yes
[24-Jun-2008 14:47:56] <ccesario> its is possible ?
[24-Jun-2008 14:48:49] <Bulwinkle> ccesario: supposedly ZenOSS does it automatically based on the routing tables it builds... I haven't seen that to be the case though.
[24-Jun-2008 14:48:51] <cgibbons> So you want any devices behind a router to not alert when the router going to them is down? That is supported although it's fickle about your network setup (I've done a lot of the testing on it).
[24-Jun-2008 14:50:13] <MoreDakka> WhatsUp Gold can set dependencies manually, wish Zenoss could do the same.
[24-Jun-2008 14:50:20] <ccesario> yes yes,,,, the problem is "mail alert" if router1 goes down..... I only want receive mail alter from this host
[24-Jun-2008 14:50:58] <MoreDakka> you must have a lot of devices being monitored if you are getting 1212172771 messages.
[24-Jun-2008 14:51:17] <cgibbons> what I have seen it needs to work properly is you have to be monitoring your zenoss box (localhost or whatever) within zenoss, and it has to be able to calculate the route from there to the router in question. if that's setup properly then it should not report alerts when the intermediate router goes down.
[24-Jun-2008 14:51:35] <cgibbons> now that said, I've done that testing with 2.2.x not prior versions so I'm not entirely sure how much was added in the 2.2.x timeframe.
[24-Jun-2008 14:52:16] <MoreDakka> cgibbons: Can users be locked down to view only specificdevices? As if we wanted to have multiple clients networks being monitored by Zenoss and we want a client to only see their network?
[24-Jun-2008 14:52:58] * ccesario confused O_o
[24-Jun-2008 14:54:25] <cgibbons> so let me explain the test I did for the network dependencies in detail and we can see how that relates to your network
[24-Jun-2008 14:56:29] <ccesario> ok
[24-Jun-2008 14:56:31] <Shurcik> hi everyone. if anyone has ideas why file systems on the host are not shown? node is put under /server/linux
[24-Jun-2008 14:56:54] <MoreDakka> snmp permissions on the linux boxz/
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:05] <Shurcik> no
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:13] <Shurcik> snmpwalk shows all perfect
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:48] <MoreDakka> the device is in /devices/server/linux class?
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:49] <Shurcik> what collector gathers data about partitions?
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:05] <Shurcik> moment, let me check
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:22] <cgibbons> so I had a zenoss server on 192.168.1.100 as part of 192.168.1.0/24. it was monitoring itself. there is a gateway on 192.168.1.222 that has 192.168.17.0/24 behind it. there is a switch and a small collection of hosts on that subet.
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:29] <MoreDakka> Anyone know where Windows keeps a log for SNMP Traps?
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:49] <cgibbons> so the router on 192.168.1.222 is being monitored, as are the switch and hosts behind that router on 192.168.17.0/24 - so far everything is happy.
[24-Jun-2008 14:59:19] <MoreDakka> Windows logging is teh suck.
[24-Jun-2008 14:59:31] <cgibbons> if 192.168.1.222 goes down, zenoss won't report any alarms for the hosts it can't being behind it on 192.168.17.0/24 IF both the zenoss server and 192.168.1.222 are being monitored, and zenoss knows how to route between them
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:20] <Shurcik> MoreDakka, /Devices /Server /FreeBSD
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:23] <ccesario> hmmmm
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:44] <Shurcik> since it's freebsd box. but putting it into linux class change nothing
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:47] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming then that is a freebsd box ;-)
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:00] <MoreDakka> try remodeling the device.
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:08] <ccesario> cgibbons, then,,,,, I dont need do nothing.... zenoss is inteligent O_o
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:08] <Shurcik> already
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:21] <Shurcik> it has the same pack of collectors as linux boxes
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:30] <Shurcik> (linux boxes have no fs too)
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:39] <cgibbons> it tries to be, but then again if a link in the chain is missing it doesn't really tell you that it needs it
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:02] <MoreDakka> Woudl be nice if we could manually set dependencies.
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:03] <cgibbons> so something like not having the zenoss server as monitored will prevent it from doing the dependencies properly and it's really hard to know that
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:26] <Shurcik> if i add zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:35] <Shurcik> and do remodeling
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:41] <Shurcik> then fs are shown
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:47] <Shurcik> but only total space
[24-Jun-2008 15:04:13] <Shurcik> since this plugin doesn't query specific OIDs for every mounted fs
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:02] <Shurcik> also hardware tab shows nothing about memory and swap
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:09] <Shurcik> but perf tab has graphs ...
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:42] <MoreDakka> Ehhh...you've taken this above my level of knowledge in Zenoss....
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:53] <Shurcik> and one more question - i have a lot of warnings that loopback interfaces are over 75% capacity over nodes ...
[24-Jun-2008 15:07:15] <Shurcik> this interface has 'unknown' Speed in int properties. how to remove lo0 monitoring completely from all nodes with one operation?
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:28] <ccesario> cgibbons, hmmm yes
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:37] <ccesario> thank you by your explain....
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:42] <cgibbons> sure thing
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:49] <cgibbons> one of the few things i can help with so far :-)
[24-Jun-2008 15:09:28] <MoreDakka> cgibbons: Can users be locked down to view only specificdevices? As if we wanted to have multiple clients networks being monitored by Zenoss and we want a client to only see their network?
[24-Jun-2008 15:09:53] <cgibbons> maybe... lemme see
[24-Jun-2008 15:11:09] <MoreDakka> Tried to add a ZenUser with an admin level of 0 but can still list all the devices on the system.
[24-Jun-2008 15:19:05] <cgibbons> ive got the right people to ask around me so once i get some free cycles from them maybe i can find out
[24-Jun-2008 15:19:18] <MoreDakka> :-D right on ;-)
[24-Jun-2008 15:38:57] <MoreDakka> Anyone know where Windows keeps a log for SNMP Traps?
[24-Jun-2008 15:56:02] <nemo_> /opt/zenoss/log/ ?
[24-Jun-2008 15:57:01] <Shurcik> MoreDakka, i suppose you need additional software to log snmp traps
[24-Jun-2008 15:57:43] <linash__> MoreDakka, you can check the windows event viewer... maybe...
[24-Jun-2008 15:58:12] <MoreDakka> Yeah the event viewr just shows me when the snmp service is restarted, doesn't show any other access logs or sending of traps ;-/
[24-Jun-2008 15:58:22] <MoreDakka> Windows logging sucks...
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:33] <cgibbons> okay got the scoop
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:41] <cgibbons> you can indeed restrict users to only see certain devices or device classes
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:42] <MoreDakka> scoop....awesome
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:57] <cgibbons> then again he didn't tell me how
[24-Jun-2008 16:02:13] <MoreDakka> AHhahahah
[24-Jun-2008 16:02:16] <MoreDakka> NOOOOOOOO
[24-Jun-2008 16:02:40] <cgibbons> but that'll be easy to figure out shortly since we know its possible
[24-Jun-2008 16:05:02] <cgibbons> lunch, bbiab
[24-Jun-2008 16:05:14] <ckrough> cgibbons: you can set up groups then assign access via the groups
[24-Jun-2008 16:11:09] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to assign a user one specific group but that user is still able to see all the other devices via systems or device list.
[24-Jun-2008 16:11:38] <MoreDakka> Or even groups. /Groups instead of just /Groups/UsersGroup
[24-Jun-2008 16:12:50] <ckrough> they way we've done it is: create a user group "usergroup", create a device group "devicegroup", then set "devicegroup" as an administered object for "usergroup"
[24-Jun-2008 16:13:03] <ckrough> users in usergroup can only see information relevant to devicegroup
[24-Jun-2008 17:01:59] <MoreDakka> Hmmm...that doesn't work for me. I have tried using /Location/DeviceGroup, /Group/DeviceGroup, /System/DeviceGroup and set the user's group to administer only those objects but still can see devices outside of those groups.
[24-Jun-2008 17:14:51] <TBKdan> I just installed a Zenoss 2.2.0 virtual appliance and used rpath to update it to 2.2.1. Now, I cannot add IP or Win services from the device OS window. See http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21755 Any ideas?
[24-Jun-2008 17:15:10] <__adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - 2.2.1 VM app cannot add IP/Win services (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Jun-2008 19:07:18] <TBKdan> Sooo.. any ideas on the IP/Win services?
[24-Jun-2008 19:40:03] <ckrough> \
[24-Jun-2008 19:54:32] <TBKdan> Fixed http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21716
[24-Jun-2008 19:54:47] <__adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - 2.2.1 VM app cannot add IP/Win services [SOLVED] (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Jun-2008 22:39:00] <kso512> I just installed 2.2 on an Ubuntu server, and in both IE and Firefox the pages are displayed improperly... The frames overlap each other. Any ideas? I couldn't find anything on google...
[24-Jun-2008 22:55:45] <kso512> it looks like it's related to css, after looking at the firefox Error Console... "Expected declaration but found '*'. Skipped to next declaration / http://(myserver):8080/zport/yui/grids/grids-min.css"
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[25-Jun-2008 14:10:15] <TBKdan> I was trying to change the default network that comes up on the network map by editing Products/ZenWidgets/skins/zenui/flex/ZenNetMap.mxml. Now the network map app doesn't even come up o.O Any ideas?
[25-Jun-2008 15:54:47] <TBKdan> I keep getting MSCRMEmail components alerting me that "the recipients for the e-mail message with subject "yadda" in mailbox yadda@yadda.com did not match any known records. Is there a way to block any future messages along these lines?
[25-Jun-2008 15:55:57] <nemo_> transform them away
[25-Jun-2008 16:00:18] <TBKdan> *looks through admin guide*
[25-Jun-2008 16:00:25] <TBKdan> Still new
[25-Jun-2008 16:07:37] <nemo_> transform is the way for sure
[25-Jun-2008 16:07:52] <nemo_> can anyone correct my terminology pls
[25-Jun-2008 16:08:13] <nemo_> i want to setup an indepdentant version of zenoss to be just a collector / perf monitor
[25-Jun-2008 16:08:35] <nemo_> i think i am calling it the wrong thing , cus i cant find docs
[25-Jun-2008 16:09:00] <nemo_> its a new zenoss box but it doesnt run the mysql , and it holds the perf logs and rrd's
[25-Jun-2008 16:20:56] <AmishGeek> if running zenoss in a VMware virtual machine on VMware server, what kind of resources should be allocated for proper performance?
[25-Jun-2008 16:21:59] <MrTux> AmishGeek: it's the question of what to monitor
[25-Jun-2008 16:22:33] <AmishGeek> ~10 servers, monitoring cpu/memory/network and web services etc
[25-Jun-2008 16:22:47] <AmishGeek> uptime
[25-Jun-2008 16:22:53] <MoreDakka_> I don't think you would need much to monitor just that.
[25-Jun-2008 16:23:48] <AmishGeek> i'm thinking 256mb memory allocation, and 25-30% cpu?
[25-Jun-2008 16:24:31] <AmishGeek> using the downloadeable vmware appliance
[25-Jun-2008 16:42:20] <TBKdan> I think you'll need more than 256mb of RAM..
[25-Jun-2008 16:42:27] <TBKdan> Unless you have about 1gb of swap
[25-Jun-2008 16:42:48] <TBKdan> I ran into issues on my first test of the VM because I only gave it 384 with the stock 128 swap
[25-Jun-2008 16:43:03] <TBKdan> Right now watching 6 servers...
[25-Jun-2008 16:43:26] <TBKdan> Mem: 516088k total, 509576k used, 6512k free, 49312k buffers
[25-Jun-2008 16:43:26] <TBKdan> Swap: 524280k total, 113660k used, 410620k free, 134356k cached
[25-Jun-2008 16:54:31] <TBKdan> How would one use a transform to drop an event?
[25-Jun-2008 16:54:55] <TBKdan> evt.severity = 0?
[25-Jun-2008 16:59:23] <cgibbons> do you need to use a transform and not the zEventAction zproperty?
[25-Jun-2008 17:11:09] <TBKdan> cgibbons: Someone had previously mentioned that I should transform it away, but I did see the zProperty of just setting it to clear... that will basically clear any of those events as they come in, correct?
[25-Jun-2008 17:13:05] <cgibbons> I'm not entirely sure about the transform method, but setting zEventAction to "drop" will completely drop the event.
[25-Jun-2008 17:13:21] <TBKdan> apoeiual;v
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:13] <TBKdan> cgibbons: You mean clear, not drop, correct?
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:49] <TBKdan> er
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:52] <TBKdan> Nvm
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:52] <TBKdan>
[25-Jun-2008 17:15:10] <TBKdan> Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[25-Jun-2008 17:24:45] <TBKdan> Any ideas on how to deploy the windows SNMP installer to a decent amount of Windows server through group policy? I'm thinking I may have to create an MSI with the necessary commands, but if there's something already out there, obviously I'd prefer that
[25-Jun-2008 17:28:54] <cgibbons> I'm not sure how to do that (yet), but I'm working on some of the WMI / Windows stuff next release so I'll probably find out soon
[25-Jun-2008 17:32:07] <TBKdan> Ok, I'll look around. Thanks for the help.
[25-Jun-2008 19:05:39] <TBKdan> How can one test the regex of an Event against the example text?
[25-Jun-2008 20:02:52] <TBKdan> Anybody use Net-SNMP on Windows along with extensions like SNMP-informant?
[25-Jun-2008 20:11:05] <magnachef> I think you're probably best to just use SNMP-Informant
[25-Jun-2008 20:11:39] <magnachef> not sure what conflicts might occur with both of them running
[25-Jun-2008 20:21:10] <TBKdan> Arg
[25-Jun-2008 20:21:27] <TBKdan> To be continued tomorrow..
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[25-Jun-2008 21:57:47] <kso512> Has anyone else had an issue with CSS? I'm getting TONS of errors from a fresh clean install of Ubuntu 8.04 Server and Zenoss 2.2.0
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:12] <kso512> i.e. "Warning: Unknown property 'zoom'. Declaration dropped.
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:12] <kso512> Source File: http://ext-nms:8080/zport/dmd/yui/assets/skins/sam/skin.css
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:13] <kso512> Line: 17"
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:34] <kso512> and "Error: YAHOO.zenoss.zenautocomplete.DevAndEventObjectSearch is not a constructor
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:34] <kso512> Source File: http://ext-nms:8080/zport/ZenPortletManager/get_source
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:35] <kso512> Line: 266"
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[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:10
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:15
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:1A
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:20
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:25
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:27] <hotmanta_> 13:2A
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:29] <hotmanta_> 13:30
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:31] <hotmanta_> 13:35
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:33] <hotmanta_> 13:40
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:35] <hotmanta_> 13:45
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:37] <hotmanta_> 13:50
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:39] <hotmanta_> 13:55
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:41] <hotmanta_> 13:60
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:43] <hotmanta_> 1F:11
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:45] <hotmanta_> 1F:12
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:47] <hotmanta_> 31:00
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:48] <jdownie_> oi. what's that?
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:49] <hotmanta_> 31:01
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:51] <hotmanta_> 32:01
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:53] <hotmanta_> 32:0D
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:57] <hotmanta_> 32:10
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:59] <hotmanta_> 32:1A
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:01] <hotmanta_> 32:1B
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:03] <hotmanta_> 32:1C
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:04] <jdownie_> is that a file transfer?
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:05] <hotmanta_> 36:01
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:07] <hotmanta_> 36:02
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:09] <hotmanta_> 36:03
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:11] <hotmanta_> 36:04
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:13] <hotmanta_> 36:05
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:15] <hotmanta_> 36:06
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:17] <hotmanta_> 36:A0
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:19] <hotmanta_> 36:A1
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:21] <hotmanta_> 36:A2
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:23] <hotmanta_> 38:0B
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:27] <hotmanta_> 38:2B
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:50] <jdownie_> you there?
[26-Jun-2008 12:30:36] <hotmanta_> hey
[26-Jun-2008 12:30:52] <hotmanta_> yaeh a dragged a file to the window
[26-Jun-2008 12:39:08] <hotmanta_> quiet
[26-Jun-2008 12:50:46] <mib_xvihew> Hey guys, if I install Zenoss-stack 2.2, do I need to install before that SNMPD and MYSQLD first?
[26-Jun-2008 12:51:58] <linash_> mib_xvihew, no
[26-Jun-2008 12:52:50] <mib_xvihew> that is all I need then, version 2.2?
[26-Jun-2008 12:53:22] <linash_> yep
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:28] <nemo_> Zenoss-stack - what is that ?
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:34] <nemo_> i heard you say it 10's of times
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:50] <nemo_> curious , because i heard of tcp stacks, stacks of cash
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:57] <nemo_> but wtf is a zenoss stack ?
[26-Jun-2008 12:56:10] <mib_xvihew> that is what they call the new integrated installation fo Zenoss 2.2
[26-Jun-2008 12:56:12] <linash_> stack means that it include all necessary layers
[26-Jun-2008 12:56:46] <mib_xvihew> thanks: linash_
[26-Jun-2008 13:00:14] <TBKdan> Is there any way to get the SNMP Informant type data (cpuPercentProcessorTime, memoryAvailableKBytes, etc) on a Windows box with Net-SNMP?
[26-Jun-2008 14:00:10] <FabioGB> Hello all
[26-Jun-2008 14:00:21] <TBKdan> Hi
[26-Jun-2008 14:01:00] <FabioGB> I am having trouble on monitoring linux proccess, can someone help me?
[26-Jun-2008 14:03:48] <TBKdan> Can't say I've attempted to, so dunno how much help I'll be. I'd just ask the question and someone will eventually see it
[26-Jun-2008 14:07:18] <FabioGB> I thnik I am not using regex on the correct way...processes dissapear from the list and sometimes not running alerts are on even when the proccess is up and running
[26-Jun-2008 14:07:38] <woodland_critter> Hi all.. After adding a custom MIB, is there anything special that needs to be done to tie it to a specific device?
[26-Jun-2008 14:37:32] <FabioGB> Anayone can help me?
[26-Jun-2008 14:38:52] <nemo_> anyone tried the apc zenpack ?
[26-Jun-2008 14:39:15] <nemo_> what does it provide exactley ? i cannot find anything at all, nothing related to my apc devices seems to have changed
[26-Jun-2008 14:39:34] <nemo_> came from here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/APCMonitor.zip/view
[26-Jun-2008 14:39:49] <[adytum-bot]> Title: APC Monitor Zenpack - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[26-Jun-2008 15:39:48] <kso512> FabioGB: Sorry, I haven't dug that deep yet...
[26-Jun-2008 15:40:46] <kso512> for sake of the archive: I found the 'issue' I was having with CSS not rendering right - AdBlock Plus was messing up the CSS interpretations...
[26-Jun-2008 15:41:17] <magnachef> FabioGB: you need to lock these processes from deletion
[26-Jun-2008 15:55:17] <FabioGB> Hi magnachef
[26-Jun-2008 15:55:46] <FabioGB> where can I do such this configuration
[26-Jun-2008 15:55:46] <FabioGB> ?
[26-Jun-2008 16:01:17] <magnachef> under the OS tab
[26-Jun-2008 16:01:27] <TBKdan> Select the processes, then click the arrow and lock
[26-Jun-2008 16:01:42] <magnachef> boo ya
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:11] <nemo_> anyone tried the apc zenpack ?
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:13] <nemo_> came from here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/APCMonitor.zip/view
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:17] <nemo_> what does it provide exactley ? i cannot find anything at all, nothing related to my apc devices seems to have changed
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:47] <nemo_> seems to work for you guys so why dont i just keep copy pasting my questions till someone answers
[26-Jun-2008 16:04:07] <magnachef> yours is more specific
[26-Jun-2008 16:04:25] <[adytum-bot]> nemo_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[26-Jun-2008 16:04:29] <magnachef> general questions are much easier :-)
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[26-Jun-2008 16:53:25] <TBKdan> Anybody know of any way to change DCOM security settings via Group Policy? I want to create a domain user that can poll the WMI data, but that requires setting some WMI and DCOM permissions... I don't want to have to do this for every computer obviously
[26-Jun-2008 20:06:51] <TBKdan> http://blogs.msdn.com/spatdsg/archive/2007/11/21/set-wmi-namespace-security-via-gpo-script.aspx
[26-Jun-2008 20:06:52] <TBKdan> w00t
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[26-Jun-2008 20:29:41] <fhew> can someone answer 'how can I access trap varbind entities in transforms?
[26-Jun-2008 21:42:05] <jsm> is it possible to generate graphs with custom date ranges?
[26-Jun-2008 21:42:29] <jsm> i only want to see data in a 2 week time period
[26-Jun-2008 22:19:17] <AmishGeek___> when adding a centOS linux server as a device to zenoss, what is the best choice for Hardware vendor etc? Generic / net-snmp?
[26-Jun-2008 22:19:24] <AmishGeek___> since i'm just running net-snmp as the daemon
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[26-Jun-2008 23:25:27] <linash> AmishGeek___, I believe It makes no difference
[26-Jun-2008 23:26:55] <jsm> sorry to ask this again: how do i specify a date range when creating a graph report?
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[27-Jun-2008 10:17:02] <TaGRaM> hi all
[27-Jun-2008 10:19:00] <TaGRaM> was wondering if anyone knows or knows where I can find information about Zenoss monitors for Opsware SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 12:36:42] <TaGRaM> wondering if anyone knows or knows where I can find information about Zenoss monitors for Opsware SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 12:56:42] <nemo_> folke
[27-Jun-2008 12:56:45] <nemo_> wallberg?
[27-Jun-2008 12:58:19] <folke> nemo_: ? who me?
[27-Jun-2008 12:58:23] <nemo_> yeh
[27-Jun-2008 12:58:50] <folke> nemo_: Nah, not wallberg.. Andreas is my name
[27-Jun-2008 12:59:22] <nemo_> kool i thought we might be old colleaugues ;P
[27-Jun-2008 12:59:31] <nemo_> but were not ...
[27-Jun-2008 13:01:51] <folke> Ah, I'm from up north in sweden
[27-Jun-2008 13:02:07] <nemo_> so is he
[27-Jun-2008 13:02:11] <nemo_> upsala or something
[27-Jun-2008 13:02:27] <nemo_> maybe even umea
[27-Jun-2008 13:05:24] <folke> Ah, and you to?
[27-Jun-2008 13:07:36] <nemo_> nope i am in NL
[27-Jun-2008 13:07:44] <nemo_> but i know many swedish refugees here
[27-Jun-2008 13:08:43] <folke> Oh, I have a friend in NL, amsterdam that is..
[27-Jun-2008 13:10:39] <nemo_> hehe who knows ;p its a small word
[27-Jun-2008 13:10:45] <nemo_> world*
[27-Jun-2008 13:12:32] <folke> indeed
[27-Jun-2008 13:13:11] <folke> Bah, i'm messing around with insight manager and zenoss.
[27-Jun-2008 13:21:26] <TaGRaM> insight manager and zenoss sounds as fun as opsware and zenoss
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[27-Jun-2008 15:01:18] <AmishGeek___> is there any documentation on how to configure bsnmp on a freebsd 7 server so zenoss can read from it?
[27-Jun-2008 15:04:57] <linash> AmishGeek___, why not use net-snmp?
[27-Jun-2008 15:06:28] <AmishGeek___> no particular reason... my freebsd7 servers all appear to have bsnmp installed by default
[27-Jun-2008 15:08:09] <linash> sry... don't know. I just know that net-snmp works perfectly on freebsd with zenoss (it even give installed software)
[27-Jun-2008 15:08:54] <AmishGeek___> i'm installing net-snmp as we speak...
[27-Jun-2008 15:20:51] <TaGRaM> anyone know how or where I can find information about Zenoss monitors for Opsware SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 16:25:27] <rak> TaGRaM: What you trying to do with SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 17:21:04] <TBKdan> Sweeeet... full Group Policy deployment of SNMP and WMI/DCOM security settings
[27-Jun-2008 17:24:11] <kso512> TBKdan: How'd you do it...?
[27-Jun-2008 17:25:14] <TBKdan> kso512: Lots of time and patience lol
[27-Jun-2008 17:25:28] <TBKdan> I'm probably going to make a writeup of it and post it on the forums
[27-Jun-2008 17:25:49] <TBKdan> I have to do it anyway for my supervisor just in case the machine obliterates itself and I have to set it up again (or someone else)
[27-Jun-2008 17:26:01] <kso512> TBKdan: That'd be great...!
[27-Jun-2008 17:26:18] <kso512> TBKdan: The write-up, not the obliteration
[27-Jun-2008 17:26:27] <TBKdan> lol
[27-Jun-2008 18:41:22] <mmb> anyone been able to show free disk space on netapp using the NetApp Volume zenpack?
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[28-Jun-2008 18:01:17] <the_mali> anyone here who can help me with getting started with zenoss?
[28-Jun-2008 18:02:07] <the_mali>
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[29-Jun-2008 13:42:52] <MrTux> is there any reason why twisted 2.5.0 is used? isn't it a little bit very old?
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[30-Jun-2008 06:14:32] <lahirup> hi
[30-Jun-2008 06:15:01] <lahirup> how can i add a process running in a windows server to zenoss
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[30-Jun-2008 11:32:20] <Comradin> Hi folks, my (half configured) zenoss installation wrote over the weekend an approx 9G sized Data.fs file while my second (configured) box has one of 27M.. Whats usually collected in this file?
[30-Jun-2008 11:33:04] <Comradin> Unfortunatly I had to delete the file, as the volume was full
[30-Jun-2008 11:33:39] <monrad> its the zenoss backend database
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:20] <Comradin> the zope database?
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:37] <monrad> i think so
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:55] <Comradin> am still struggling with the fact, that there are two databases
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:58] <Comradin>
[30-Jun-2008 11:51:50] <nemo_> Comradin, its the zeo db
[30-Jun-2008 11:51:59] <nemo_> and its bad news if you lost 9gb !
[30-Jun-2008 11:52:11] <nemo_> zeo db = internals of devices , relationships etc
[30-Jun-2008 11:52:16] <nemo_> mysql db = events
[30-Jun-2008 11:56:14] <Comradin> nemo_: I guess its been worthless data inside these 9G as both machines are in the same network
[30-Jun-2008 11:56:33] <Comradin> the 9G box just not fully configured
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:01] <Comradin> as the second datafile is just 27M in size
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:07] <MrTux> Comradin: you can shrink the database, because it has an object history, you can do that over the zopemangement..
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:19] <MrTux> i had 450GB database, shrinked it to about 560M now
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:30] <Comradin> ouch
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:43] <MrTux> <- monitoring a little bit bigger network..
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:53] <Comradin> isnt there some kind of garbagecollection?
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:56] <nemo_> 469M Jun 30 13:42 Data.fs
[30-Jun-2008 11:58:04] <nemo_> i am monitoring ~2500 devices
[30-Jun-2008 11:58:13] <monrad> zeopack is a must
[30-Jun-2008 11:58:23] <nemo_> i reindex the db daily tho ..
[30-Jun-2008 11:59:37] <MrTux> i'm monitoring about 4000 devices and around 16*10^4 ports or so
[30-Jun-2008 11:59:48] <Shurick> nemo, 12 devices. ~850Mb
[30-Jun-2008 12:00:10] <MrTux> .oO(who has the biggest? )
[30-Jun-2008 12:00:16] <Comradin> I have about 20 devices
[30-Jun-2008 12:00:40] <Shurick> the smallest
[30-Jun-2008 12:01:23] <Shurick> btw is there any app to control rrd datafile sizes in zenoss? like 'keep only 1 week history data' ?
[30-Jun-2008 12:04:53] <nemo_> Comradin read about zeo db , reindexing and packing
[30-Jun-2008 12:04:58] <nemo_> Sorry meant Shurick
[30-Jun-2008 12:06:02] <Shurick> so no default utility, not good
[30-Jun-2008 12:23:54] <Comradin> zeopack wants to connect to a socket, do I use the zopectlsock in the var/ subdirectory?
[30-Jun-2008 12:24:44] <nemo_> RTFM people
[30-Jun-2008 12:25:29] <nemo_> we are all busy, i am trying to be helpful but i am not your personal helpers
[30-Jun-2008 12:32:32] <Comradin> no problem, found it. I was just looking for the wrong term
[30-Jun-2008 12:33:31] <Comradin> and btw. the admin guide does not speak about connecting through the socket, just the port
[30-Jun-2008 12:38:05] <nemo_> make a bug with zenoss
[30-Jun-2008 12:38:11] <nemo_> we are just users
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[30-Jun-2008 13:52:38] <ckrough> anyone know a trick for listing all of the TALES attributes for a device?
[30-Jun-2008 13:55:40] <nemo_> nope that would make a decent faq tho !
[30-Jun-2008 13:57:09] <ckrough> yes, yes it would
[30-Jun-2008 13:57:38] <ckrough> you should be able to do it in zendmd, but I dont know enough python to do that at the moment
[30-Jun-2008 15:34:39] <rbooth> Has anyone ran into issues with zeneventlog having heartbeat failures after upgrading to 2.2 from 2.1?
[30-Jun-2008 15:36:02] <TBKdan> I think there's a topic on that on the forums rbooth
[30-Jun-2008 15:38:17] <rbooth> yeah i saw several post with the same issue but it dosent look like they have it resolved. Was just checking if someone here new what was up.
[30-Jun-2008 15:39:10] <TBKdan> I just started with 2.2 VM, so can't say I've run into it. Sorry
[30-Jun-2008 15:56:22] <cluther> rbooth: You can try running zeneventlog with a watchdog to combat this: zeneventlog stop ; zeneventlog start --watchdog
[30-Jun-2008 15:57:43] <rbooth> Ill give that a shot. what does the watchdog do?
[30-Jun-2008 15:58:29] <cluther> It will monitor the process (zeneventlog) and restart it if it appears hung. Really just a workaround for the Samba libraries propensity to get themselves wedged.
[30-Jun-2008 15:59:24] <rbooth> Cool thanks
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[30-Jun-2008 18:10:53] <ckrough> anyone know a trick for listing all of the TALES attributes for a device?
[30-Jun-2008 18:16:26] <realmelancon> Is there anybody with experience with Windows event logs ?
[30-Jun-2008 18:19:58] <realmelancon> anybody available ?
[30-Jun-2008 18:41:50] <magnachef> I'm here, but not sure of Windows event logs
[30-Jun-2008 19:48:12] <TBKdan> Anybody know of any ZenPacks to monitor performance with winexe instead of WMI, since WMI requires an account with admin privs on 2003 SP1+?
[30-Jun-2008 19:51:55] <tessier_> The zenpack I really need, the virtual host monitor, requires money. That's a serious bummer.
[30-Jun-2008 19:52:12] <tessier_> And I notice it is really hard or impossible to monitor your own virtual hosts without getting errors about multiple devices having the same ip
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[30-Jun-2008 20:32:07] <magnachef> I monitor virtual machines
[30-Jun-2008 20:32:52] <magnachef> I think it may be an issue with how you are setting up your VM's
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[01-Jun-2008 17:56:22] <exkev> I'm monitoring >700 hosts w/ zenoss core, and the bastard leaks memory like whoa
[01-Jun-2008 17:56:48] <exkev> it's way worse on 64-bit, and I found a bug report etc related to x64 arch, so I rolled it on 32 and I still need to restart every few days
[01-Jun-2008 17:57:04] <exkev> it's less severe
[01-Jun-2008 17:57:15] <exkev> anyone else seeing this?
[01-Jun-2008 18:11:15] <monrad> exkev: which version?
[01-Jun-2008 18:20:59] <exkev> 2.1.2 I think
[01-Jun-2008 18:21:21] <exkev> I've been from 2.1.0-2.1.1 and I think I did 2.1.2 when I moved to 32 bit
[01-Jun-2008 18:21:43] <exkev> nope, 2.1.3 actually
[01-Jun-2008 18:58:42] <exkev>
[01-Jun-2008 18:58:47] <exkev> oops
[01-Jun-2008 19:09:04] <monrad> is it a memleak in datacollector?
[01-Jun-2008 19:13:55] <exkev> digging
[01-Jun-2008 19:14:06] <exkev> I think a few procs grew quite constantly...
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:09] <exkev> zenmodeler was the issue on x64
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:25] <monrad> i have only had problems with zenmodeler
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:33] <exkev> it's definitely biggest on the x86 install currently
[01-Jun-2008 19:16:04] <exkev> zenperfsnmp is also about 75% of zenmodeler (150MB for perf, 200MB for model)
[01-Jun-2008 19:16:24] <exkev> but I restart midnight every day now
[01-Jun-2008 19:17:41] <exkev> the trends show increasing i/o wait and memory usage, and the most visible jumps were upon periodic modeler runs
[01-Jun-2008 23:14:53] <Moltar> Hello. Anyone up for answering a question?
[01-Jun-2008 23:15:13] <djs> No. Question answered.
[01-Jun-2008 23:15:50] <djs> So, now that we have that taken care of, how about you just ask your question?
[01-Jun-2008 23:16:28] <Moltar> Thanks... I just wanted to see if anyone was awake. Anyway, here goes, just in case. I upgraded to 2.2.0 from 2.1.3 a couple of days ago, and now have a problem with some boxes that have a private network interface.
[01-Jun-2008 23:17:33] <Moltar> The systems are not reachable on the private address from my zenoss monitor. Zenoss insists on trying to monitor the SMTP service by trying to connect on the private IP. Do you know any way to restrict the IP Service monitor to specific interfaces or IPs?
[01-Jun-2008 23:18:33] <djs> Not so far in my use of it. It seems to grab ahold of the net's dns server, and use whatever it can find there, if I understand what it did correctly.
[01-Jun-2008 23:19:20] <Moltar> For the moment, I've hacked around this by modifying the snmp IpServiceMap class to skip the private address range inside of the 'process' method. But there's got to be a better way than that.
[01-Jun-2008 23:19:49] <Moltar> This used to work OK as far as I know back when we were on 2.1.3...
[01-Jun-2008 23:21:50] <Moltar> I also tried deleting the SMTP service from the ipservices, and then adding it back in manually. That works for awhile, because there is no IP associated with it then. But the next time the device is modeled it gets screwed up again.
[01-Jun-2008 23:23:00] <Moltar> It doesn't just use the DNS names, if that was the case I'd be OK. My DNS only has the publicly accessible addresses of these boxes. The private addresses are for a load-balancer network interface.
[01-Jun-2008 23:23:44] <djs> If it is only 1 or 2 ips, and nothing else works, throw up a redirect from the private to the public ips.
[01-Jun-2008 23:24:59] <Moltar> Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean there. Are you talking about adding something to the routing tables on the zenoss monitor?
[01-Jun-2008 23:25:21] <djs> Um, I suppose that might work.
[01-Jun-2008 23:27:21] <Moltar> There are some special zproperties you can set that are to ignore interfaces or IP addresses. But that doesn't work for the IP services, just for the network map or interface monitoring portion.
[01-Jun-2008 23:28:13] <djs> Haven't gotten that far with zenoss. I have only been on it a week or so, testing it in comparison to Nagios.
[01-Jun-2008 23:29:47] <Moltar> OK. Thanks. I'll try posting something on the forum or the zenoss-users mailing list to see if anyone else has this problem. It might be a bug in the 2.2.0 release, since this seemed to just start after my last upgrade.
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[02-Jun-2008 06:38:56] <pitillo> hello good morning. Anyone know if is it possible to build zenoss with samba provided by itself and use another samba version (I am having problems with autoconf 2.53 and samba ("4.0.0tp4-SVN-build-UNKNOWN"))
[02-Jun-2008 06:52:32] <pitillo> seems that there are problems with wmi and autoconf 2.60 too... I will make some tests trying to remove samba from the source...
[02-Jun-2008 07:05:48] <pitillo> nothing to do without using a distro recommended in the official web page?
[02-Jun-2008 07:12:50] <nemo> should zenwin and zenwinperf be used together ? or mutually exclusive ?
[02-Jun-2008 07:22:21] <pitillo> well, let's see what happen patching the source and removing wmi from the source itself
[02-Jun-2008 07:38:24] <pitillo> hard to go ahead...
[02-Jun-2008 07:43:30] <nemo> ?????
[02-Jun-2008 09:00:22] <DarkMats> Anyone know what to do if you get alot of left over ssh processes when using sshmonitor?
[02-Jun-2008 09:00:55] <DarkMats> No error in any log I can find
[02-Jun-2008 09:05:02] * nemo guesses at the zencommand log in /opt/zenoss/log/
[02-Jun-2008 09:07:47] <DarkMats> No, no errors. Everything works fine in zenoss. Just that it doesn't close the ssh connection I think
[02-Jun-2008 09:20:39] <nemo> not very neat, but you could run a script that kills ones with run time > x mins
[02-Jun-2008 09:34:16] <DarkMats> Yeah, I've done that now, but wanted to know if there was a fix also
[02-Jun-2008 09:34:38] <DarkMats> midnight everyday I kill all zenoss-owned sshd
[02-Jun-2008 09:37:48] <nemo> i guess thats on the client
[02-Jun-2008 09:37:59] <nemo> ( the script doesnt return on the client )
[02-Jun-2008 11:16:04] <pitillo> no way to build zenoss from sources...
[02-Jun-2008 11:17:56] <pitillo> anyone know where is provided (or in which zopeinterface version) ImportError: No module named ZEO.mkzeoinst
[02-Jun-2008 11:29:39] <pitillo> does someone here build zenoss succesfully from source?
[02-Jun-2008 11:37:31] <MrTux> pitillo: i did
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:02] <MrTux> pitillo: on ubuntu hardy, worked like a charm
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:06] <pitillo> MrTux, did you used zenoss-deps package or the dependencies from your distro?
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:34] <MrTux> pitillo: i took the source, and said ./install..
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:06] <pitillo> ummm well, I suppose you made the preinstallation notes about the user and its vars
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:21] <MrTux> yeah, sure.
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:35] <pitillo> btw, here is impossible for fe (python 2.5 and autoconf 2.60 are breaking things)
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:41] <pitillo> and I think sopeinterface too
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:49] <pitillo> *zopeinterface
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:01] <MrTux> you need python2.4
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:05] <pitillo> MrTux, thank you for you comment. I will continue bit by bit
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:14] <pitillo> MrTux, tried with 2.4.5 and 2.4.4 too
[02-Jun-2008 11:45:32] <nemo_> pitillo, zenoss works with a specific version of python only
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:14] <nemo_> -bash-3.1# python -V
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:14] <nemo_> Python 2.4.3
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:15] <pitillo> nemo_, I saw it. Now I am downgrading python and I will try again this afternoon
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:18] <nemo_> 2.4.x i believe
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:20] <pitillo> athank you
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:23] <nemo_> nada ;p
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:50] <pitillo> near, yes, followinf the readmeas I undestood to be > 2.4, but I was in wrong, seems that it's looking for 2.4.x
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:53] <pitillo>
[02-Jun-2008 11:55:42] <nemo_> i only noticed when you mentioned python 2.5
[02-Jun-2008 12:40:51] <pitillo> nemo_, well, with python2.4.3 I have problems with autoconf too. Which version of autoconf are you using? (here 2.60 and now downgrading to 2.53)
[02-Jun-2008 12:44:45] <nemo_> Python 2.4.3
[02-Jun-2008 12:44:55] <nemo_> done a make clean ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:45:57] <pitillo> yep
[02-Jun-2008 12:46:08] <pitillo> but it breaks with wmi and samba svn
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:27] <nemo_> well samba svn doesnt belong does it ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:31] <nemo_> wmi is optional
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:53] <pitillo> ummm yes, it stops there. I tried to remove the code to build wmi. Is there a better way to ommit wmi?
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:53] <nemo_> what distro are you building on btw ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:03] <pitillo> nemo_, I am using CRUX
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:31] <nemo_> never heard of it
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:35] <nemo_>
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:54] <pitillo> well, really doesn't matter the distro used to build sources IMO (only take care with deps)
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:15] <nemo_> in general i agree
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:29] <nemo_> something must have messed up somewhere tho
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:35] <pitillo> btw, I need to look for a good way to don't build wmi instead of removing the code which call the functions to build it
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:39] <nemo_> i never built it from source btw
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:47] <nemo_> use rpms enterprise edition
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:04] <pitillo> well, that's the way when it's building for the distro your are using
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:05] <nemo_> is the no configure script ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:20] <pitillo> ummm I am running install.sh script
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:39] <nemo_> but IS there a configure ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:46] <nemo_> id always run it first if there is
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:52] <pitillo> I made a patch to avoid the wmi functions calls to avoid this message and then I got the one related to zopeinterface and python
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:13] <pitillo> near, well, following the installation instruccions there is not much ways to build it
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:14] <nemo_> like i said, never compiled it , dont know, just trying to help
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:19] <nemo_> gtg, things to do
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:35] <pitillo> near, thank you anyways for your help and comments
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:43] <nemo_> np
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:52] <pitillo> omg, sorry, tab tab
[02-Jun-2008 12:57:41] <pitillo> well, patched and rebuilding again, let's see what happens now...
[02-Jun-2008 13:00:43] <pitillo> well, now it's built fine (py2.4.4 autoconf 2.53 and removed wmi...) bumping up autoconf again
[02-Jun-2008 13:02:15] <pitillo> well, I think it will be a bit hard to make a port for the distro I am using
[02-Jun-2008 13:49:19] <pitillo> a bit hard but possible
[02-Jun-2008 13:59:09] <jb> forums down?
[02-Jun-2008 14:02:29] <ckrough> the zenoss forums? dont think so, im in there now
[02-Jun-2008 14:04:45] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 14:04:48] <jb> i cant get to them
[02-Jun-2008 14:06:44] <twm1010> im browsin through them
[02-Jun-2008 14:08:28] <jb> yeah they are messed up
[02-Jun-2008 14:08:34] <jb> definetely routing issues
[02-Jun-2008 14:09:56] <ckrough> must be somewhere between you and them
[02-Jun-2008 14:12:56] <jb> its not just me
[02-Jun-2008 14:13:11] <jb> its an issue with their SP.. mrrayzenoss was talking about it last week
[02-Jun-2008 14:14:20] <Free_the_Mallocs> any chance they're hosted by ThePlanet?
[02-Jun-2008 14:14:41] <Free_the_Mallocs> since they just had a big explosion at one of their datacenters and something like 9k servers are offline
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:00] <jb> ohd amn
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:06] <jb> i didn't hear about that
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:14] <Free_the_Mallocs> http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011131199
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Texas-Based Server Provider Explosion Affects 9,000 Servers, 7,500 Customers | AHN | June 2, 2008 (at www.allheadlinenews.com)
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:55] <ckrough> I dont think they host at the planet
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:26] <jb> its not..
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:33] <jb> peer1..
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:59] <ckrough> boo
[02-Jun-2008 14:20:32] <twm1010> yikes!
[02-Jun-2008 14:36:25] <jb> argh, why wont this collection plugin work!
[02-Jun-2008 14:38:16] <jb> anyone know how I can troubleshoot this? no mention of the collection map name during the model at all
[02-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <jb> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap
[02-Jun-2008 14:40:30] <jb> it completely skips it
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:13] <magnachef> and you've added it to the list of collectors for that device class?
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:41] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:45] <jb> it worked in 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:49] <jb> this is 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:01] <magnachef> ahhh, another 2.1.x -> 2.2 thing
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:02] <jb> i wonder if the format of something changed
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:09] <jb> yeah and this is a clean 2.2 install
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:10] <jb> not an upgrade
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:49] <magnachef> what collector is it, did you write it?
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:58] <jb> yes
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:11] <jb> i basically copied the DellDeviecMap plugin and changed it
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:15] <jb> its for IBM machines
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:23] <jb> populates the serial number, hw mftg, etc
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:36] <fr500> hi
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:50] <ckrough> hi
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:51] <magnachef> hmmm...do you have it somewhere I can downlaod
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:36] <jb> sec
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:43] <fr500> i-m trying to use the google maps mashup feature but i have an issue
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:48] <jb> i think i need to eggify it
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:53] <jb> i just have no idea how
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:54] <jb>
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:08] <fr500> my network is ethernet and links are not necesailly on a /32 subnet
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:27] <fr500> so each new device i add is draing itself like if it was on a full mesh
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:32] <jb> mag: care if I email it to you?
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:40] <magnachef> sure
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:46] <jb> you can msg your email if you would like
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:31] <magnachef> did you get my msg?
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:43] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:44] <jb> sent
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:59] <jb> the zenpack is installed, and it shows up in the Collection Plugins
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:59] <magnachef> cool
[02-Jun-2008 14:51:17] <jb> i might just need to rewrite it somehow
[02-Jun-2008 14:51:19] <jb> to make it an egg
[02-Jun-2008 14:54:31] <jb> mag: did you get it?
[02-Jun-2008 14:59:28] <magnachef> one sec
[02-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <jb> gr i turned it into an EGG
[02-Jun-2008 15:02:40] <jb> and it still gets skipped
[02-Jun-2008 15:09:54] <magnachef> jb: have you looked at any of the 2.2 collectors? maybe something with the imports aren't working
[02-Jun-2008 15:10:44] <jb> well, this is exactly how the DellMonitor modeler is setup
[02-Jun-2008 15:13:00] <magnachef> hmmm
[02-Jun-2008 15:14:09] <jb> did you try installing it?
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:19] <magnachef> I didn't...I'm still running 2.1.3
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:43] <jb> ah
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:46] <jb> dont uprgade to 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:54] <magnachef> I was just looking over the code
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:58] <jb> its quite aggravating
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:08] <magnachef> heh, that's what I've been reading for the past week or so
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:23] <jb> and it seems like there are no answers to the problems
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:38] <magnachef> my 2.1.2 -> 2.1.3 upgrade didn't go so smoothly, so I'm a bit gun-shy
[02-Jun-2008 15:19:53] <magnachef> is there a reason you commented out the if getdata['setHWProductKey'] line in IBMDeviceMap.py?
[02-Jun-2008 15:22:51] <jb> yeah, that OID wasn't working
[02-Jun-2008 15:22:58] <jb> dellmonitor has one commented out too
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:01] <jb> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap, DellDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:04] <jb> god this is annoying
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:21] <jb> its the exact same as DellDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:26:23] <magnachef> have you restarted zenoss after adding it?
[02-Jun-2008 15:26:49] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 15:28:17] <jb> ok hm
[02-Jun-2008 15:31:42] <jb> haha now delldevicemap is brokne
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:07] <magnachef> heh, how'd that happen? or was it broken the whole time as well?
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:30] <jb> no, I restarted zen
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:33] <jb> and now it's being skipped
[02-Jun-2008 15:35:40] <magnachef> odd
[02-Jun-2008 15:36:24] <magnachef> I'm stepping out for a bit...I'd try getting a hold of someone on zenoss-dev forum
[02-Jun-2008 15:48:21] <jb> ImportError: No module named modeler.plugins.IBMDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:48:24] <jb> uh
[02-Jun-2008 15:49:31] <jb> i think not
[02-Jun-2008 15:51:50] <fr500> is there a way to customize links in the google maps feature
[02-Jun-2008 15:52:08] <fr500> its meshing everything since it's a vpls network...
[02-Jun-2008 15:52:14] <fr500> but it's not really meshed
[02-Jun-2008 15:55:54] <jsm> so the latest zenoss seems pretty broken under centos 5.2..
[02-Jun-2008 15:56:03] <jsm> 5.1 rather
[02-Jun-2008 15:56:38] <jsm> it seems to want to install to /usr/local, but then the startup scripts still reference /opt/zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 15:59:27] <twm1010> fr500: you can choose not to draw certain links
[02-Jun-2008 16:00:17] <jb> jsm: welcome to the club..
[02-Jun-2008 16:00:38] <jsm> jb, not sure how that ever even got released.. i'll wait for the next point release
[02-Jun-2008 16:01:56] <jb> there are TONS of issues in 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 16:03:47] <jsm> it should be pulled
[02-Jun-2008 16:04:20] <jsm> been thinking of giving zabbix a try... anyone have luck with it? wondering how it compares
[02-Jun-2008 16:04:33] <jb> im going to quit wasting my time on it.. hopefully the next point release will fix things
[02-Jun-2008 16:07:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> zabbix is similarly broken
[02-Jun-2008 16:07:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> in fact, I'd go so far as to label zabbix as a dying project
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:18] <jb> yeah, never messed with zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:22] <jb> i really don't want to switch from zen
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:26] <jb> but damn, I just wish it would work.
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> yeah, that was my attitude about zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:46] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm considering zenoss, although so far I have to say I'm somewhat underwhelmed
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:01] <jb> when something like 2.2 with so many problems slips thru the cracks, you gotta wonder..
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:08] <jb> i didn't have any of these issues with 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:23] <jb> Free: what are you using now?
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:43] <Free_the_Mallocs> I currently have a zabbix box as well as munin
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:53] <Free_the_Mallocs> but my zenoss install is being evaluated
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:18] <Free_the_Mallocs> the zenoss UI is superior to zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:23] <Free_the_Mallocs> that's nice anyhow
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:52] <jb> yeah, but a UI is sorta useless if the backend doesn't perform
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:57] <Free_the_Mallocs> agreed
[02-Jun-2008 16:14:30] <Free_the_Mallocs> if this turns out to be similarly broken, then my next candidate will be hyperic
[02-Jun-2008 16:16:18] <fr500> twm1010: how?
[02-Jun-2008 16:19:16] <jb> i havent heard anything about hyperic
[02-Jun-2008 16:19:34] <jb> whats it coded in?
[02-Jun-2008 16:20:10] <jb> sweet.. native AIX support
[02-Jun-2008 16:25:07] <jb> oh.. HQ is agent based
[02-Jun-2008 16:33:35] <Free_the_Mallocs> yeah, that's not an issue for us
[02-Jun-2008 16:34:57] <jb> guess it wouldnt be for me either
[02-Jun-2008 16:35:08] <jb> but im gonna keep on pounding with zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 16:35:13] <jb> i just REALLY hope they fix these issues
[02-Jun-2008 16:40:31] <magnachef> jb: any specific features make you "need" to switch to 2.2?
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:16] <jb> well, I wanted to start monitoring some windows hosts, and I had issues in 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:28] <jb> so I initially tried an upgrade from 2.1 -> 2.2 which botched everything
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:31] <jb> recovered my 2.1 install
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:38] <jb> so now, I have 2.2 on a new server/install
[02-Jun-2008 16:42:43] <magnachef> I see
[02-Jun-2008 16:43:06] <jb> hm ok I think I finaly got this working using the old style zenpack
[02-Jun-2008 16:50:41] <magnachef> what do you mean "old style"?
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:12] <jb> non-egg
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:27] <magnachef> ahh...what was the issue?
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:35] <jb> honestly, im not really s ure
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:41] <jb> something got goofed up with the zenpacks..
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:55] <jb> so I removed/reinstalled, reapplied collector settings
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:58] <jb> restarted zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:59] <jb> etc
[02-Jun-2008 17:36:38] <twm1010> jb: so you had trouble with the EGG zenpacks on a clean install?
[02-Jun-2008 17:39:14] <twm1010> jb: your Zenpack hits the IBM director agent?
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:06] <jb> no
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:16] <jb> its for AIX
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:38] <jb> snmpd on the AIX machines executes some scripts that grab the serial number, model number, etc, and pipe them thru the MIB
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:56] <jb> the zenpack just maps the OID's to "Serial," "HW Model", etc
[02-Jun-2008 17:50:09] <jb> yeah it was a clean install
[02-Jun-2008 17:50:47] <twm1010> hrmm.. odd
[02-Jun-2008 17:52:43] <twm1010> and when it models, it ignores it altogether?
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:06] <jb> yes
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:13] <jb> it was very odd
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:18] <jb> it wasn't consistent
[02-Jun-2008 18:07:27] <twm1010> I would think as long as the collectors are set in zProperties it runs whatever you have selected
[02-Jun-2008 18:08:35] <jb> ok.. zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames doesn't appear to be working
[02-Jun-2008 18:08:56] <twm1010> :O ??
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:05] <twm1010> it works for me, in my upgraded machine
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:29] <jb> trying to ignore lo0
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:33] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:43] <jb> also, do you know how often the disk usage stats are pulled?
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:04] <twm1010> 5 mins, i think
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:18] <jb> so you are completely ignoring an interface using zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:19] <jb> ?
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:24] <twm1010> Yes
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:32] <twm1010> a shitload of them
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:33] <jb> im trying to ignore all errors from it on a tree level
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:46] <jb> ^lo0
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:53] <jb> is what I have in the zProp
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:31] <twm1010> @ /device/network/router i have this: (unrouted|rif0|VLAN|sit|BRI|EFXS|Voice|Bearer|FXO|Foreign|Null|Stack)
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:31] <adytum-bot> twm1010: Error: '/device/network/router' is not a valid command.
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:43] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:10] <twm1010> though, ^lo0 should work
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:23] <jb> maybe I need to remodel?
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:26] <twm1010> yes
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:29] <twm1010> you do
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:32] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:33] <jb> ok
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:34] <jb> cool
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:45] <jb> thanks
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:00] <twm1010> seems like it takes a day or two before it gets around to re-modeling all my devices
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:25] <jb> yeah
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:29] <ckrough> should be every 12h
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:44] <twm1010> oh yeah? cool, i never did really pay attention, just knew it did it
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:48] <ckrough> sometimes I fire it off on the command line when testing, but the 12hr has been reliable
[02-Jun-2008 18:32:01] <jwaugh> I have Zenoss installed and I've found all devices on my network. For some reason I can't see what devices are associated with the IP EXCEPT for the Ricoh printer. I have firewalls off as well on all computers. I'm also wondering why my modem and routers aren't showing up the way they should like the printer. I've watched the demo and read manual page after manual page. I'm confused. -_-
[02-Jun-2008 18:32:53] <jb> are you running SNMPD on your modems, routers, etc?
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:17] <jwaugh> Ah, nope.
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:25] <jwaugh> I don't think the Linksys has that to begin with
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:30] <jwaugh> So I'm screwed, huh?
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:51] <jb> wouldn't say that, but they aren't going to work out of the box
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:06] <jwaugh> Ah, I figured that. I just wasn't sure what I needed to do
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:19] <jwaugh> Windows machines? What do I do about that?
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:29] <jwaugh> There is an snmpd for win32 I'm guessing
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:29] <twm1010> No, there is an SNMP service built into windows
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:43] Free_teh_Mallocs is now known as Free_the_Mallocs
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:45] <twm1010> hit up control panel, add/remove programs, add/remove windows components, its under network monitoring
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:03] <jwaugh> twm1010: Thanks a million
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:04] <twm1010> you then augment that with the SNMP Informant program, allows zenoss to pull some more information
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:08] <jwaugh> Will try to do something for myself now
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:45] <twm1010> then on each box, you configure SNMP through the services snap-in
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:02] <twm1010> if you want to be slick about it, and have a domain, this can be pushed through group policy quite easily, at least for read-only settings
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:12] <jwaugh> I can't do a domain... wish I could.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:22] <jwaugh> It would cost too much to manage 20 or 30 computers.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:32] <jwaugh> I'm using this to start up a new 24/7 monitoring business for local companies.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:40] <jwaugh> I want to be able to see when they have a problem before they know they have some of them.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:46] <jwaugh> And respond and just look like God.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:47] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 18:43:44] <twm1010> Thats a reasonable goal
[02-Jun-2008 18:44:05] <twm1010> Let me tell ya one thing though. That admin manual is a bit of a bear, but suck it up and read it
[02-Jun-2008 18:44:22] <twm1010> will go long ways towards understanding how zenoss works
[02-Jun-2008 18:45:22] <jwaugh> twm1010: Will take your advice and read it.
[02-Jun-2008 18:45:56] <jwaugh> As soon as I saw this software I saw a heck of an opportunity.
[02-Jun-2008 18:46:37] <twm1010> It can be... if you make it one
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:31] <jwaugh> Now I'm having fun finding all these dlls and exes because I don't have my windows disc
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:36] <jwaugh> Google is getting a workout.
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:44] <adytum-bot> http://primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/library/activity/active.htm
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:53] <kso512> lol
[02-Jun-2008 18:48:06] <jwaugh> lol @ adytum-bot
[02-Jun-2008 18:48:32] <twm1010> jwaugh: what windows disc do you need?
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:03] <ckrough> ha
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:04] <jwaugh> when I went into add / remove windows components it needs my SP2 disc. I'm actually at a client's place right now so I don't have my discs available
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:16] <jwaugh> I'm finding the files though
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:26] <twm1010> they're around, for sure
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:29] <jwaugh> right now evntcmd.exe is kinda hard
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:41] <jwaugh> Well, it'd take a while to download a 700 MB iso, so I'm just piecing it together
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:43] <jwaugh> a little at a time
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:43] <jwaugh> haha
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:55] <kso512> jwaugh: i'd make a little USB flash drive that had all the different windows versions' files, plus that informant program
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:58] <twm1010> whatever floats your boat, might be easier to just wait till you have the CD
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:08] <twm1010> kso512:goodidea
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:14] <jwaugh> kso512: Good idea, indeed.
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:20] <jwaugh> just copy the i386 folder
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:24] <jwaugh> from the setup disc
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:41] <kso512> jwaugh: that'd be overkill, but would work
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:53] <jwaugh> kso512: Thank goodness for 8gb flash drive.
[02-Jun-2008 18:51:49] <jwaugh> Anybody have that file that would be easily uploaded somewhere? If not, I'm still looking.
[02-Jun-2008 18:51:51] <jwaugh> Just thought I'd ask.
[02-Jun-2008 18:52:58] Free_teh_Mallocs is now known as Free_the_Mallocs
[02-Jun-2008 18:56:31] <jwaugh> Lucked out, I remembered that I had bought an XP upgrade disc for this client.
[02-Jun-2008 18:56:50] <jwaugh> Now to scroll up and find the instructions you gave me
[02-Jun-2008 18:57:32] <jwaugh> Okay, SNMP Service and SNMP Trap service ARE running
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:11] <jb> btw, don't expect to just jump into this and have everything work correctly the first time
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:20] <jwaugh> jb: I wasn't.
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:28] <ckrough> ha, jb's had a rough month
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:36] <jwaugh> I'm in mmc but I'm not seeing a snapin the services snapin didn't have what I need.
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:39] <jwaugh> to config snmp
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:32] <jb> right click the service and go to properties..
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:36] <ckrough> jb, are you windows or *nix?
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:36] <jb> all configuration will be there..
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:41] <jb> ck: unix
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:00] <jwaugh> jb: Yeah, I'm dumb, figured that out
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:10] <jwaugh> I'm re-discovering just to see what happens, nothing will - will it?
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:41] <jb> if you configured snmp properly, you should see something..
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:52] <jb> although you will probably want to install snmp informant on those windows boxes too
[02-Jun-2008 19:01:46] <twm1010> betcha communities aren't setup yet
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:08] <jwaugh> jb: snmp informant being a windows component or a downloaded one
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:08] <jb> probably
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:15] <jb> you will need to manually configure the communities
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:17] <jb> and their access
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:21] <twm1010> jwaugh: downloaded
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:58] <jwaugh> ok
[02-Jun-2008 19:06:14] <twm1010> Did you setup your community string in Zenoss yet?
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:23] <jwaugh> twm1010: Nope.
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:25] <jwaugh> Going to do that.
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:34] <jwaugh> Installing snmp informant atm
[02-Jun-2008 19:08:15] <jwaugh> I installed it and don't understand what it does.
[02-Jun-2008 19:09:04] <jwaugh> Whoo! No configuration needed. I installed the snmp and wmi and now it detects just fine.
[02-Jun-2008 19:09:05] <jwaugh> Nifty.
[02-Jun-2008 19:10:15] <jwaugh> or not - should have listened to you all - win services is blank as is OS Processes IP services and File Systems still a lot more work to do
[02-Jun-2008 19:10:58] <twm1010> jwaugh: some of that comes on the second modeling of the device
[02-Jun-2008 19:11:27] <jwaugh> twm1010: Not following. I feel as if I'm about to get a RTFM f not being the nice version of "F"
[02-Jun-2008 19:11:28] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:15] <magnachef> Read The Fantastic Manual?
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:22] <jwaugh> magnachef:
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:32] <jwaugh> I just didn't understand the "second modeling"
[02-Jun-2008 19:20:44] <jwaugh> Quick simple question: under Component type on a device page I only have Other, IPRouteEntry and IpInterface. Should I have anything else?
[02-Jun-2008 19:26:47] <twm1010> depends on what it has detected
[02-Jun-2008 19:26:50] <twm1010> and what you installed
[02-Jun-2008 19:34:20] <jwaugh> I'm reading up on the "community" thing.
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:19] <jb> the "community" thing? have you ever worked with snmp?
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:27] <jwaugh> jb: Sadly, no
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:35] <jb> oh ok
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:41] <jb> well you have quite a bit of reading to do
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:18] <mray> so hypothetically, if the documentation was all in wiki form, do you think you would be more likely to read it vs. the PDFs and HTML?
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:31] <mray> and if you read it, would you help clean it up?
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:39] <mray> (I think you see where I'm going with this)
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:43] <jwaugh> mray: yes
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:04] <jwaugh> and yes I'd help if I could
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:34] <mray> doesn't help your timeframe, but it's something I'm working on
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:41] <mray> requirements for a revamped community site
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:57] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:00] <jwaugh> "requirements" meaning helping with the wiki?
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:17] <mrayzenoss> sorry, we haven't been introduced. I'm the Community Manager for Zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:25] <magnachef> wiki is nice for community additions in terms of documentation, but I dunno if most people would be "more likely to read it"
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:45] <jwaugh> Personally I hate manuals and tend to find wikis and forums for support.
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:46] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: I'm looking at docbook->wiki bridges, so we could push things back and forth
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:47] <jwaugh> That's just me though
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:10] <magnachef> yeah, there is definitely a need for the community to try and fill in the documentation gaps
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:12] <mrayzenoss> updates to the wiki would get reviewed, and pushed into the admin guide and dev guide as appropriate
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:35] <mrayzenoss> our current wiki is anemic
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:52] <jb> hey twm, you monitoring any windows boxes yet?
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:56] <mrayzenoss> but there's a lot of good content
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:11] <mrayzenoss> just hard to find everything
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:35] <magnachef> yeah...that's probably my biggest "complaint" with Zenoss (too many holes in documentation, not enough detail)
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:56] <jwaugh> I think it should be done more by example
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:07] <jwaugh> A set up being made with screenshots once in a while
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:09] <jwaugh> that you can follow
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:32] <jwaugh> and just make your own for your own enterprise
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:47] <magnachef> there are some things like that in the current wiki (httpmonitor, and syslog)
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:14] <jwaugh> It'd be cool if the whole setup process was documented in that forum.
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:22] <jwaugh> Then people like me, would leave people like you alone
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:23] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:27] <jwaugh> lol
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:50] <mrayzenoss> then I'd just be working on the next barrier to usage
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:56] <mrayzenoss> barrier 1 was installers
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:02] <mrayzenoss> barrier 2 is documentation
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:37] <mrayzenoss> at least I always have plenty to work on
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:40] <jwaugh> The installer is nice. I tried installing from source and ran into dependency problems and everything else
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:45] <ckrough> I would like to see more HOWTO format docs, ie; HOWTO set up distributed polling, HOWTO customize graphs, etc...
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:53] <mattik> Hello, I'm sorry because I disturb you silly question, but I like to know what are login account and password in zenoss?
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:58] <jwaugh> ckrough: What you are talking about is too advanced for me.
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:59] <ckrough> I plan to create a couple when I get some time
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:04] <jwaugh> I don't even know what that is
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:08] <mrayzenoss> mattik: admin/zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:22] <mattik> mrayzenoss: Thank you
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:37] <mrayzenoss> ckrough: make sure you put them up on the wiki, I'll blog about them
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:50] <mrayzenoss> and I'll make sure they end up in the new wiki
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:51] <ckrough> yeah, when I do them Ill submit them
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:04] <magnachef> so what's the timeframe for the new wiki?
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:16] <jwaugh> So what is the cut and dry version of getting installed software to show up in zenoss? haha
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:30] <jwaugh> I "see" the computers now since I installed snmp on the windows machines
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:38] <ckrough> we've got a fairly large install, so we get the opportunity to set up some neat stuff. I hope to be able to make some HOWTO's from that and submit them
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:05] <jwaugh> I'd be happy to work on a camtasia in exchange for your help.
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:12] <magnachef> jwaugh: on windows, you may need to use WMI or have SNMP informant running to get that
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:12] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:31] <jb> well.. the installer is nice
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:37] <jb> but the upgrades are not always reliable
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:45] <jb> as many of us have recently seen
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:57] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: gathering requirements now, but I'd say not soon enough
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:00] <jwaugh> I'm lucky, I jumped on board with 2.2 then I suppose
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:01] <jwaugh>
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:09] <magnachef> heh, yeah
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:17] <jb> hey magna, are you monitoring any windows hosts?
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:23] <jwaugh> Can't you just backup your db and then import it in the new releases?
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:26] <magnachef> yeah...a couple
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:55] <jb> mag: are they reporting the uptime correctly?
[02-Jun-2008 19:53:26] <magnachef> seems like it
[02-Jun-2008 19:53:52] <magnachef> I am getting the software to show up as well
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:02] <magnachef> and I'm just using plain ole MS SNMP
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:07] <jb> software works fine
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:10] <jb> but uptimes are all wrong
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:25] <jb> is the software populating on your linux hosts?
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:27] <magnachef> how much are they off by?
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:59] <jb> sec lemme check
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:02] <magnachef> only on some
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:58] <jwaugh> are all the things in products just there by default?
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:59] <magnachef> I believe that has something to do with adding the SWInstalled MIB
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:03] <jwaugh> Because I have A LOT of things in "products"
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:30] <jb> yeah its off by weeks and weeks
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:38] <jb> zen says this box as been up for 14minutes
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:14] <magnachef> is it showing SNMP's uptime?
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:19] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:21] <magnachef> windows SNMP does some weird things
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:24] <jb> yeah that could be it
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:27] <jwaugh> I'm noticing "uptime" is measured from the last time I ran a discover devices.
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:28] <jb> i did restart SNMP
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:36] <magnachef> hence everyone's push to use snmp informant
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:48] <jb> well, snmp informant is installed
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:52] <magnachef> ahhh
[02-Jun-2008 19:59:15] <jwaugh> zWinUser & password is my common user & password on all clients?
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:00] <magnachef> I think that's for WMI (?) and needs admin level permissions
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:21] <jwaugh> I installed WMI so at least I've gotten that far.
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:57] <twm1010> What do you mean you "installed" WMI.
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:09] <jwaugh> in add remove windows components I installed it
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:17] <twm1010> ah, thats unneccessary
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:24] <jwaugh> twm1010: Uh oh.
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:29] <twm1010> it won't hurt though
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:33] <jwaugh> What did that do?
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:54] <twm1010> It's an extension of sorts, not sure exactly what, but you don't need it, but i wouldn't bother uninstalling it
[02-Jun-2008 20:02:49] <twm1010> What zProperties have you set?
[02-Jun-2008 20:03:25] <jwaugh> Just the defaults
[02-Jun-2008 20:03:30] <jwaugh> and admin and password
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:05] <twm1010> What device class did you put your server in?
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:31] <jwaugh> my "server" is just a windows xp pro computer
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:37] <jwaugh> and I'm not sure what class it is in
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:38] <jwaugh> lol
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:40] <jwaugh> public I think
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:55] <jwaugh> oh, that's the community
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:56] <twm1010> Any device that Zenoss interacts with, is put into a device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:57] <jwaugh> whoops
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:04] <jwaugh> oh, it's in discovered
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:09] <twm1010> the device class/folder determines its settings
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:31] <twm1010> ok, thats your problem then
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:41] <jwaugh> I made a workstations class
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:49] <jwaugh> but I didn't assign any properties to it
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:49] <twm1010> You need to move your server to the /Devices/Server/Windows device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:06:32] <twm1010> Yes, but that class you created is kind of like a blank slate, it doesn't have all the settings and configurations for monitoring a windows box
[02-Jun-2008 20:06:59] <jwaugh> Alright, I moved it to /Devices/Server/Windows/192.168.1.100
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:12] <twm1010> now remodel the device
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:27] <jwaugh> Umm, how?
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:43] <jwaugh> Manage > Model Device
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:44] <jwaugh> haha
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:45] <jwaugh> Sorry
[02-Jun-2008 20:08:23] <twm1010> once its done, have another look at your device
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:03] <jwaugh> OS, Hardware, Software, Events are all empty
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:05] <jwaugh> still
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:16] <jwaugh> Perf is working now though
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:18] <jwaugh> With graphs
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:28] <jwaugh> status seems to be completely filled out too
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:06] <twm1010> You're getting there.
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:43] <twm1010> I'm going to assume you set your zWinUser and zWinPassword under the device itself, ideally you should set this under the zprops of the device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:56] <twm1010> think... inherited filesystem rights
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:11] <jwaugh> So under /Devices set my xProperties?
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:13] <jwaugh> *z
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:14] <jwaugh> sorry
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:20] <twm1010> Well /Devices is like the root
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:25] <jwaugh> It's already set correctly there
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:44] <twm1010> ok, that should be fine for the most "general" of settings, that apply to your entire environment
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:07] <twm1010> just understand that you can set zproperties at any class/subclass or even at the device level
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:23] <jwaugh> I'm not understanding why they are set correctly and I'm still not seeing my software or anything
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:44] <twm1010> model it one more time
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:46] <jwaugh> I have my admin user and password in zProperties and they are showing up correctly in the Windows Server's properties as well (via inheritance)
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:07] <jwaugh> Modeling.
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:38] <jwaugh> http://pastebin.com/m2ff0acfe
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:56] <jwaugh> Nothing, still.
[02-Jun-2008 20:14:36] <twm1010> Hrmm... not sure then... looks like you've got it configured right... could be a limitation of XP? Never did monitor a workstation here
[02-Jun-2008 20:14:38] <twm1010> always server
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:02] <jwaugh> Ah. This has the capability to monitor workstations, though? If not - it isn't going to do me any good.
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:09] <jwaugh> According to the demo video it can.
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:17] <jwaugh> Linux and Windows workstations were on the demo video
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:30] <twm1010> probably will... just not sure what your problem is, most likely something easy
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:14] <kso512> From what I've seen, the 'software' tab is filled in on windows machines with just SNMP/SNMP-Informant...
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:18] <kso512> No need for a log in.
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:45] <twm1010> right
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:46] <jwaugh> well step by step - I installed snmp and wmi then went into my services snap in and snmp service properties - from there, "traps tab" set the community as "public" and trap destinations: as "192.168.1.249" the workstation in question - should that be the ubuntu server running zenoss?
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:03] <kso512> Not traps.
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:12] <twm1010> traps aren't for gathering information, they're sending it
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:13] <jwaugh> so delete the traps settings?
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:13] <kso512> Traps are for sending, pushing, signals...
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:59] <kso512> There are two services that start with SNMP... You need to adjust the first one: SNMP Service
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:17] <jwaugh> SNMP service has the "traps" tab
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:26] <kso512> Yes, but you don't need that tab.
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:29] <jwaugh> Alright
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:33] <jwaugh> I deleted what I did in it
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:44] <jwaugh> Log on as: Leave as Local System Account?
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:49] <jwaugh> or my Admin account?
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:50] <kso512> The Security tab has the goodies
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:00] <kso512> Leave as Local System
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:12] <jwaugh> Okay, under security, I have public with rw access
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:19] <kso512> check all the 'services' under the 'agent' tab
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:19] <jwaugh> and accept snmp packets from any host
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:28] <jwaugh> they are all checked
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:31] <jwaugh> I did that earlier
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:36] <kso512> Did you restart the service?
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:39] <jwaugh> NO
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:40] <jwaugh> Crap
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:55] <kso512> I've done it too - don't feel too bad
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:55] <jwaugh> Restarting... although I only have a "stop" option
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:04] <jwaugh> restarted - now remodel?
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:09] <kso512> *nod*
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:13] <twm1010> Umm... FYI, using the community "Public" with RW access might be a bad idea...
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:23] <kso512> Indeed
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:25] <jwaugh> what access do you recommend?
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:28] <twm1010> RO
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:29] <magnachef> RO
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:33] <jwaugh> ok
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:35] <jwaugh> changing
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:44] <kso512> (and restarting
)[02-Jun-2008 20:21:29] <jwaugh> right
[02-Jun-2008 20:22:26] <jwaugh> remodeling
[02-Jun-2008 20:30:34] <twm1010> im out! later
[02-Jun-2008 20:32:26] <malbon> yo
[02-Jun-2008 20:32:33] <malbon> any of the devs around?
[02-Jun-2008 20:48:43] <jb> I have some devices (ESX VM's) that when modeled their "HW Product" is showing as the OID, not as the actual OS.. whats the best way to change this?
[02-Jun-2008 21:00:37] <ckrough> \quit
[02-Jun-2008 21:00:48] <ckrough> ha, and that wraps up the day...
[02-Jun-2008 21:24:43] <punkcut> I have a question. How do I configure a graph to show up in the main "perf" section of a device? From the defaults I have my filesystem space free being graphed however it does not show up in the perf section of the device. Only when I drill down into it.
[02-Jun-2008 21:46:39] * kso512 hasn't figured that out yet...
[02-Jun-2008 22:07:33] <punkcut> yah it doesnt seem like theres much of a way to edit the graphs in the perf section.
[02-Jun-2008 23:19:43] <kso512> Has anyone had any luck using MSSQL as a backend for the data, instead of MySQL...?
[02-Jun-2008 23:39:50] <jwaugh> So nobody in here knew of anyway to monitor XP workstations?
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[03-Jun-2008 00:10:49] <kso512> jwaugh: erm, should be the same as other Windows OS's...
[03-Jun-2008 02:21:32] <troy42> g'evening
[03-Jun-2008 02:47:13] <jwaugh> Hey guys
[03-Jun-2008 02:55:26] <jwaugh> I just placed a Windows 2003 server in /dev/server/windows/ and it shows all software - I cannot get it to do this in XP, any ideas? I tried putting the xp workstation in the same class but nothing.
[03-Jun-2008 02:56:49] <jwaugh> zenwin is giving me a red dot in status on my server
[03-Jun-2008 03:00:46] <troy42> hmm, haven't played with a win32 endpoint myself
[03-Jun-2008 03:04:41] <jwaugh> Seems very hard to find support for them even though it seems to be the most common enterprise server type around here.
[03-Jun-2008 03:05:30] <jwaugh> What do blue dots mean in Status tab on a device?
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[03-Jun-2008 03:22:02] <cbleach> Are you sure that the WMI connection to the xp machine is working with the credential you use for the 2003 server?
[03-Jun-2008 03:29:10] <jwaugh> Hmm, even 2k3 server isn't showing services running or anything
[03-Jun-2008 03:31:25] <jwaugh> WMI actually, isn't working. I don't know why either.
[03-Jun-2008 03:32:26] <jwaugh> skipping 192.168.0.15 has bad wmi state (that's my win2k3 server)
[03-Jun-2008 03:33:32] <jwaugh> when I try to remodel
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[03-Jun-2008 04:21:52] <jwaugh> Is there a way to pair up a discovered IP to a device so it will show up on your network map?
[03-Jun-2008 04:24:04] <jwaugh> I have a netgear wireless router and it's showing up. in my discovered class
[03-Jun-2008 04:49:03] <kso512> jwaugh: You should be able to move the router to the /Devices/Network/Router class.
[03-Jun-2008 04:53:00] <jwaugh> kso512: I did so and it's not showing on the network map. Because there is no actual device. Only an IP address where there SHOULD be the wireless router
[03-Jun-2008 04:54:53] <kso512> jwaugh: Ah. Without SNMP enabled on it (may be possible), or some other form of monitoring, I'd just move it to /Devices/Ping then...
[03-Jun-2008 04:55:15] <kso512> jwaugh: That way it keeps an eye on it, but doesn't expect more than a ping reply.
[03-Jun-2008 04:56:25] <lahirup> hi we receive this error "WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba" can any body please help on this
[03-Jun-2008 04:56:57] <kso512> lahirup: Sorry, I haven't cracked WMI yet...
[03-Jun-2008 04:58:00] <lahirup> this error comes from a win2003ent/sp1 server
[03-Jun-2008 05:33:13] <lahirup> can any one help on this error "WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 05:43:10] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 05:46:59] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 06:47:00] <lahirup> any one familiar with this error - com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 07:24:34] <pitillo> hello good morning
[03-Jun-2008 08:02:14] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 08:37:27] <lahirup> good morning
[03-Jun-2008 08:37:27] <lahirup> <lahirup> can anybod
[03-Jun-2008 08:38:20] <lahirup> can anyone help me with the following error : WMI connect error on SVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 08:41:49] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 08:57:58] <sircco> hey people, how do i add locations to google map?
[03-Jun-2008 08:59:21] <sircco> found it
[03-Jun-2008 09:10:09] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 09:15:38] <pitillo> lahirup, I made a search and I can see a post in zenoss lists, but I can't open it (seems that I have problems with the list) if you can take a look to see if it can help you (if you didn't) http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/008789.html I hope it can be usefull, if not, sorry.
[03-Jun-2008 10:18:33] <mrsparks> hey all , anyone have a clue which packages i have to update on an ubuntu machine to fix that threshold not met 0.0 problem ?
[03-Jun-2008 10:22:53] <mrsparks> okay..
[03-Jun-2008 10:57:48] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 11:25:00] <lahirup> I receive the error message:zen.zenwin: WMI Connection to QTRTWEBSVR01 went down in zenoss log file. can anybody help me?
[03-Jun-2008 11:27:48] <nemo_> you know what i HATE
[03-Jun-2008 11:28:03] <nemo_> people who sit there repeating there question, let me explain how it works
[03-Jun-2008 11:28:12] <nemo_> if ppl know, they might reply
[03-Jun-2008 12:12:02] <ckrough> \
[03-Jun-2008 12:51:20] <MrTux> jyfi, i created a zenoss user group on xing, see https://www.xing.com/net/zog
[03-Jun-2008 12:51:26] <adytum-bot> Title: XING - Groups - All Groups - Zenoss User Group - Welcome to this XING group (at www.xing.com)
[03-Jun-2008 13:02:14] <twm1010> Yay for exploding servers!
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:07] <ckrough> problems?
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:39] <twm1010> I got this assanine proxy server that likes to crash at random intervals
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:43] <twm1010> Can't put my foot on the issue
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:49] <ckrough> ah
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:07] <twm1010> heh, have you seen roger rabbit?
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:31] <ckrough> the movie? yup
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:42] <twm1010> check out this photoshop this guy did
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:43] <twm1010> http://pixeloo.blogspot.com/2008/04/jessica-rabbit-untooned.html
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:51] <twm1010> used angelina jolie as a base
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:56] <adytum-bot> Title: pixeloo: Jessica Rabbit Untooned (at pixeloo.blogspot.com)
[03-Jun-2008 13:07:10] <nemo_> sad mfs
[03-Jun-2008 13:09:58] <nemo_> get a job and take a real female on a date ;p
[03-Jun-2008 13:11:48] <twm1010> What does that have to do with anything?
[03-Jun-2008 13:12:11] <twm1010> Who shit in your cheerios this morning?
[03-Jun-2008 13:12:57] <nemo_> haha , your saying that to me ? isnt this a zenoss channel ?
[03-Jun-2008 13:13:26] <nemo_> keep your sadness to yourself i wont have to comment
[03-Jun-2008 13:14:11] <twm1010> So because my discussion is off-topic you being a complete jerk is justified?
[03-Jun-2008 13:28:55] <pitillo> thanks all for this great app... monitoring some networks fine since yesterday. Testing and waiting how hard will be to make an upgrade
[03-Jun-2008 13:35:55] <twm1010> from 2.1.3 to 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 13:41:21] <pitillo> ummm no, I have atm 2.2.0. I mean if I can test this version and wait for the next release to see if it will be hard to update
[03-Jun-2008 13:41:51] <monrad> i have schedulede a 2 hour window for upgrading 2.1.3 to 2.2.0 tomorrow
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:08] <twm1010> I would recommend waiting until 2.2.1 is released, scheduled for 6/11
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:45] <pitillo> finally I couldn't make a port to this distro and installed it following the guide (using the zenoss user and setting up the destdir by hand)
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:58] <monrad> twm1010: any reasons?
[03-Jun-2008 13:43:23] <twm1010> I myself have had some weird issue crop up, Zenpacks broken, just some odd things here and there
[03-Jun-2008 13:43:30] <pitillo> I will continue reading the good guide and I will see if there are notes about upgrading
[03-Jun-2008 13:44:20] <twm1010> pit: I've only used the appliance, where updates are done through Conary, its possible that installs form source or RPM are a little smoother
[03-Jun-2008 13:46:47] <pitillo> ummm I will take a look first to webpage and the guide (atm I am at page 83 xD) to see if there is info related to how to upgrade (I am quite sure there must be good info about this) I will upgrade from source. I think the scripts provided will only need some little changes according to my system
[03-Jun-2008 13:59:56] <nemo_> twm1010, i think your the one being a jerk, but whatever i dont wanna talk to you , i assume the same from you , so EOD ?
[03-Jun-2008 14:03:02] <twm1010> Next time keep your comments to yourself... I'll do the same. EOD
[03-Jun-2008 14:08:56] <nemo_> Rgr
[03-Jun-2008 14:41:37] <ckrough> anyone know where to find a list of the variables that are available for graph report summaries?
[03-Jun-2008 14:42:04] <ckrough> ie; ${dev/id}
[03-Jun-2008 14:45:25] <twm1010> im pretty sure its in the appendix in the admin guide
[03-Jun-2008 14:45:57] <ckrough> thanks
[03-Jun-2008 14:46:01] <twm1010> also look in the alerting section
[03-Jun-2008 14:46:04] <twm1010> where you edit the messages
[03-Jun-2008 14:53:44] <twm1010> Is anyone monitoring HP or IBM san storage w/Zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 14:55:10] <magnachef> netapp
[03-Jun-2008 14:57:26] <pitillo> I am not sure if this is related directly to zenoss (I think it doesn't) but may be someone can give me a hint about google maps. Anyone know if is it possible to put the point googlemaps gave to the end of a street instead of the begining?
[03-Jun-2008 14:58:59] <pitillo> pfff, using the number does the trick, sorry.
[03-Jun-2008 15:14:05] <ckrough> twm1010: I assume you were referring to the TALES section of the doc. it shows what appear to be some objects, but I can
[03-Jun-2008 15:14:30] <ckrough> cant seem to find definitions like ${dev/id} as compared to "getId"
[03-Jun-2008 15:19:14] <mib_698587> Hi guys..
[03-Jun-2008 15:20:10] <ckrough> hi
[03-Jun-2008 15:20:58] <mib_698587> I am tring to set traps to be sent to an Email address, is the SMTP host the name of the Mail server?
[03-Jun-2008 15:21:36] <ckrough> SMTP is the sendmail host, which could be localhost if you are running sendmail on the server
[03-Jun-2008 15:21:46] <ckrough> which is most liktely the case
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:09] <mib_698587> I get confused right there..
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:33] <mib_698587> The company is running their own groupwise Email server
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:44] <ckrough> what OS is the Zenoss server
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:57] <mib_698587> CentoOS 5.1
[03-Jun-2008 15:24:18] <ckrough> it would be easiest to have zenoss send to the local sendmail process and let that route the email. The local sendmail should know to send the emails to the proper destination (groupwise) via the MX DNS record for the domain. In short, they using the localhost as the smtp server. Make sure you are running sendmail (default) on the server.
[03-Jun-2008 15:25:42] <mib_698587> DO you know if there is a documentation for this?..the manual is kind of short in details
[03-Jun-2008 15:27:21] <ckrough> rofl
[03-Jun-2008 15:27:32] <ckrough> yeah, thats a common sentiment
[03-Jun-2008 15:28:02] <ckrough> you said you were sending traps to email addresses, you mean you are sending alerts to email addreses?
[03-Jun-2008 15:28:59] <mib_698587> my boss wants traps or notifications to be send to an external Email address for monitoring purposes
[03-Jun-2008 15:29:40] <mib_698587> The zenoss server is a default installation, and it looks af if sendmail was enable by default..
[03-Jun-2008 15:31:59] <ckrough> it should Just Work (tm) with the defaults, I think
[03-Jun-2008 15:32:27] <ckrough> with localhost as the smtp server
[03-Jun-2008 15:32:58] <ckrough> "/sbin/chkconfig --list sendmail"
[03-Jun-2008 15:33:09] <ckrough> should show it "on" on 2 3 4 5
[03-Jun-2008 15:36:21] <mib_698587> let me check
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:16] <mib_698587> yes it is..
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:22] <mib_698587> what is my next step?
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:31] <mib_698587> please help me out
[03-Jun-2008 15:44:10] <ckrough> what isnt; working? are you not getting emails from it?
[03-Jun-2008 15:46:23] <jb> ok
[03-Jun-2008 15:46:37] <jb> just curious.. anyone here monitoring F5 bigips?
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:04] <magnachef> sort of...not very well though
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:27] <ckrough> nay
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:54] <jb> magnachef: what all are you doing with them?
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:01] <jb> recieving SNMP traps of course
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:13] <jb> but, I would like more informative info.. not just "bigIPNodeUp/Down"
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:17] <jb> i would like to know WHICH node is going up/down
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:29] <jb> so im gonna mess with syslog-ng on the bigip's and try to forward these alerts to zen
[03-Jun-2008 15:49:34] <magnachef> well, I'm not getting any perf data at the moment
[03-Jun-2008 15:50:44] <magnachef> just interface perf
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:08] <magnachef> it can't find the speed of the interface, so it just shows "unknown"
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:14] <jb> hm
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:17] <jb> are these LTMs?
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:20] <mib_698587> well, I want those traps to go to an external email...how do I set that up..?
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:40] <jb> just configure alerts
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:42] <magnachef> LTMs? I don't know that TLA
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:44] <jb> and then they will be sent via email
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:54] <jb> LTM == bigip load traffic monitor
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:56] <mib_698587> let me check that
[03-Jun-2008 15:52:32] <twm1010> Is Zenoss setup with a user account on that e-mail system?
[03-Jun-2008 15:53:16] <magnachef> jb: not sure. BIG-IP Kernel 4
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:28] <jb> you are running 4.x?
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:31] <jb> wow dude thats old
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:38] <magnachef> yeah
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:00] <jb> all of our's are running 9.3.1
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:26] <magnachef> that seems like a big difference
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:32] <magnachef> so you're running kernel 9
[03-Jun-2008 15:56:32] <magnachef> not my realm of responsibility though
[03-Jun-2008 15:57:54] <jb> ah i manage the bigips..
[03-Jun-2008 16:01:00] <magnachef> any idea why my interface speeds would show up as Unknown though. Seems like snmpwalks are returning the data
[03-Jun-2008 16:01:37] <twm1010> that is definitely quite odd
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:44] <jb> hm
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:49] <jb> i just noticed that my MIB's did not import correctly
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:53] <jb> they are showing 0 mappings/traps
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:46] <jb> not sure yet magna
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:49] <jb> i'll let you know how mine goes
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:55] <jb> if I can get these MIB's loaded correctly
[03-Jun-2008 16:04:34] <jb> have you guys imported mib's into 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 16:07:46] <jb> there we go
[03-Jun-2008 16:20:12] <twm1010> nope, did you ever figure out which folder to use?
[03-Jun-2008 16:22:56] <mib_698587> after checking sendmail.../sbin/chkconfig --list sendmail
[03-Jun-2008 16:23:21] <mib_698587> shows "on" on 2 3 4 5
[03-Jun-2008 16:23:48] <mib_698587> I am lost here about the next step to setup email alerst
[03-Jun-2008 16:24:21] <mib_698587> I am trying to setup email alerts for 2 Nortel PBXs
[03-Jun-2008 16:32:11] <jwaugh_> Can somebody send me a screen shot of what a working Windows XP status page should look like? I'm trying to figure it out and documentation on XP is pretty non-existent
[03-Jun-2008 16:32:14] <jwaugh_> I'm wondering if I can monitor windows services and everything as well
[03-Jun-2008 16:33:15] <jb> twm1010: you can use any dir..
[03-Jun-2008 16:36:16] <mib_698587> anyone having problem with Zenmib run command?
[03-Jun-2008 16:37:47] <mib_698587> in version 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 16:58:43] <mib_698587> Anyone having problems when running Zenmib on version 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:20] <mib_698587> here is the solution: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6003&highlight=zenmib
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:41] <mib_698587> I just do not know how to create those symbolic links...
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2 - Issue importing mibs using Zenmib (at community.zenoss.com)
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:09] <nemo_> jb: i noted some mibs install nothing / nada / zip
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:30] <nemo_> but correctly loaded mibs go into /opt/zenoss/....../share/mibs/
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:37] <nemo_> or similar
[03-Jun-2008 17:15:36] <mib_698587> The issue is that Zenmib is not working, and I am issuing command under the "Zenoss" user
[03-Jun-2008 17:16:32] <mib_698587> in CentOS 5.1 the path is /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/
[03-Jun-2008 17:35:04] <nemo_> its still /opt/zenoss in my centos5.1
[03-Jun-2008 17:35:07] <nemo_> but yes i dig
[03-Jun-2008 17:37:24] <twm1010> admin manual points to $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site
[03-Jun-2008 17:45:36] <mib_698587> the path information is all over the place...I know whrer mine is
[03-Jun-2008 17:46:14] <mib_698587> where is the $ZENHOME variable declared...what file?
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:05] <nemo_> echo $ZEN_HOME as zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:09] <magnachef> ~/bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:13] <nemo_> if that doesnt work, something is broken
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:14] <magnachef> .bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:47] <magnachef> that's where the variable is create for the zenoss user's shell
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:57] <magnachef> you won't have it defined as any other user
[03-Jun-2008 17:49:24] <mib_698587> the problem I am having is that..
[03-Jun-2008 17:49:55] <mib_698587> Zenmib is not working as a Zenoss user, since I installed version 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:50:37] <magnachef> ahhh
[03-Jun-2008 17:50:40] <mib_698587> The link I posted above tothe forums show how to fix it..I just do not know how to make a symbolic link for zenmib to work
[03-Jun-2008 17:51:35] <magnachef> sudo ln -s current_file new_link_file
[03-Jun-2008 17:51:47] <mib_698587> according to the post a The simple fix:= create symbolic links in $ZENHOME to "share" and "libexec" folders.
[03-Jun-2008 17:52:28] <mib_698587> can you translate that to a command using what I just gave you
[03-Jun-2008 17:52:52] <mib_698587> did you have that problem with 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 17:53:35] <magnachef> so within /opt/zenoss, create symbolic links to the share and libexec folders that are elsewhere on the system
[03-Jun-2008 17:53:48] <magnachef> no, I was smart and stayed with 2.1.3 :-)
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:20] <magnachef> the best bet is to wait a couple weeks until 2.2.1 comes out
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:41] <magnachef> not sure if that's not an option
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:56] <magnachef> what share and libexecs are you supposed to be linking to?
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:18] <mib_698587> I can't wait as my boss want this resolved today....did you hear anyone talking about this...
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:29] <magnachef> because share and libexec should already be in that directory
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:41] <magnachef> dunno
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:11] <mib_698587> Issue 1: New location of "share" and "libexec" folders! (Ubuntu 8.04 - Zenoss 2.2)
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:25] <mib_698587> The location of the the "share" and "libexec" folders has been changed in Zenoss 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:39] <mib_698587> New location: /usr/local/zenoss/common/
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:52] <magnachef> IMHO, I wouldn't be running a server application on Ubuntu, but that's me
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:52] <mib_698587> Previous location: $ZENHOME/
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:57] <twm1010> interesting... i wonder how this affects the appliance
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:05] <mib_698587> Note: In Zenoss 2.2 $ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:08] <magnachef> use CentOS or something like that
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:17] <mib_698587> The simple fix:= create symbolic links in $ZENHOME to "share" and "libexec" folders.
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:31] <mib_698587> Possible? script fix:= Modify the "def zenpath" definition in $ZENHOME/Products/Zenutils/Utils.py file?
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:50] <magnachef> that's the thing...share and libexec should already be in /opt/zenoss - where did they go?!
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:20] <mib_698587> don't know..
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:39] <mib_698587> the mibs path has also moved..
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:57] <jb> no
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:59] <jb> just create it
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:04] <mib_698587> before fix: NFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:09] <jb> then cwd to it and run "zenmib run"
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:28] <mib_698587> after fix: INFO:zen.zenmib:Skipping file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/irtf/IRTF-NMRG-SMING-EXTENSIONS
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:38] <mib_698587> how do I fix it..
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:42] <mib_698587> I am sorry..
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:53] <magnachef> try doing what jb suggested
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:54] <mib_698587> I am not that good with Linux..I do try
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:01] <magnachef> just mkdir /opt/zenoss/share
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:17] <mib_698587> and that is..
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:22] <mib_698587> it
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:46] <magnachef> well, you may need to make all the necessary sub directories
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:08] <magnachef> did you make a backup?
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:13] <mib_698587> no..
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:32] <mib_698587> I will before I try anyhting
[03-Jun-2008 18:03:15] <magnachef> I'd hate to say this, but are you able to do a rebuild from scratch?
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:00] <mib_698587> yes I can..it will set me back big time..
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:13] <mib_698587> magna...I need to get this done today..
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:25] <magnachef> or you'll waste your time trying to fix it
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:32] <mib_698587> there is only one post in the fotrumd about this
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:34] <magnachef> there's been a slew of issues with the upgrade
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:38] <mib_698587> how could thids be
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:39] <magnachef> this may be the first of many
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:48] * magnachef shrugs
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:15] <mib_698587> the thing is that ....previous versions never worked for me..
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:41] <magnachef> really?! Were others able to get it working on ubuntu?
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:47] <mib_698587> I spent all of my time fixing them just to get it to a half decent working state
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:03] <mib_698587> thei is the only version that I can actually see results
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:13] <magnachef> well, any NMS system is going to take time to configure and setup to your liking
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:46] <mib_698587> this is a much better product this time around..
[03-Jun-2008 18:07:34] <mib_698587> and if I get this resolved today and setup traps to go to an Email address, I will look like a hero, at least for one day
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:00] <magnachef> why don't you get traps creating events, then have the events send emails
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:08] <magnachef> do it that way
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:21] <magnachef> or is that what you mean?
[03-Jun-2008 18:09:02] <punkcut> I currently have zenoss 2.2 running on Centos 5.1 - however its refusing to populate the installed software fields and is treating CentOS as an unknown OS. - any advice on how to resolve this?
[03-Jun-2008 18:10:21] <punkcut> the SNMP hrinstalledsoftware section does have the rpm information. It just doesnt seem like zenoss is pulling it.
[03-Jun-2008 18:19:39] <magnachef> I'm on CentOS 4.6, and same issue...I'm curious as how to fix that as well
[03-Jun-2008 18:19:57] <magnachef> that that high on my priority list, unfortunately
[03-Jun-2008 18:24:37] <twm1010> if you SNMP walk the device, does this software come up?
[03-Jun-2008 18:25:07] <punkcut> of course
[03-Jun-2008 18:25:49] <punkcut> ive pretty much leveled my SNMP config down to a rocommunity line just to ensure i wasnt being stupid
[03-Jun-2008 18:26:45] <punkcut> twm1010, ^
[03-Jun-2008 18:27:01] <magnachef> could it be something with the collectors enabled?
[03-Jun-2008 18:27:40] <punkcut> magnachef, like?
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:10] <magnachef> not sure if there's a specific software resource collector that needs to be added
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:13] <punkcut> magnachef, only one collector enabled and only monitoring a couple of VMs on the same subnet
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:31] <punkcut> magnachef, I installed the core-zenpacks package... sooo....
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:46] <twm1010> What device class is the system in?
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:57] <punkcut> everything is
[03-Jun-2008 18:29:05] <punkcut> '/device/server/linux'
[03-Jun-2008 18:31:46] <ckrough> argh. I have RRD files that are not updating and really dont want to solve this by rebooting the services again. I've tried pushing changes and remodeling to no avail. anyone know any tricks to figuring out the root-cause on stale RRD files?
[03-Jun-2008 18:33:19] <magnachef> zenperfsnmp.log - check for timeouts
[03-Jun-2008 18:35:18] <magnachef> also make sure that you're able to properly walk the device, and that the community string settings, etc are working
[03-Jun-2008 18:38:27] <skunkwerk__> i'm new to zenoss - and have 2 questions:
[03-Jun-2008 18:38:45] <skunkwerk__> 1) can it restart services that have crashed, like monit... ie event handlers
[03-Jun-2008 18:39:45] <skunkwerk__> 2) can i send reports from others servers to the main servers without manually adding each one's IP address for authentication (because the number of servers will scale up/down)
[03-Jun-2008 18:41:59] <magnachef> I don't think it restarts services by default, but can run comands from interface - or use something like puppet/cfengine
[03-Jun-2008 18:42:44] <magnachef> not sure what you're asking for #2
[03-Jun-2008 18:45:59] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: thanks... 2) is basically how a cluster of machines can send data to the main reporting server (the one with a web server), and how they get authenticated. i have machines that are coming online/offline with IP addresses that aren't in the same subnet or anything so can't authenticate that way. how does zenoss do it?
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:24] <ckrough> you have pollers on dhcp?
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:26] <magnachef> well, they use SNMP
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:42] <magnachef> Zenoss polls them via SNMP and receives traps and syslogs
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:15] <magnachef> or you could do it through an SNMP proxy I suppose if you can't get direct access to all machines on a network
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:17] <ckrough> I think he means he's doing a distributed install with multiple pollers. why do the pollers change addresses/networks?
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:42] <skunkwerk__> ckrough: i'm using amazon ec2 virtual machines
[03-Jun-2008 18:48:28] <magnachef> hmmm...I know the enterprise version allows for distributed architecture
[03-Jun-2008 18:48:41] <skunkwerk__> by 'polling' wouldn't you have to specify the IP addresses to poll ahead of time? or does snmp have some way of new machines registering with the zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:05] <magnachef> there are auto discoveries that it can do on networks
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:08] <magnachef> or network segments
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> punkcut: I figured out the software problem
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:28] <punkcut> magnachef, do tell?
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:44] <ckrough> which obviously be a problem from ec2, unless you are monitoring some subnet on public ip space
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:45] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: i read about that, but again the machines might not be in the same subnet, and other machines that aren't mine might be
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:45] <magnachef> go to /Devices/Server/Linux
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:11] <magnachef> skunk: you should post to the forums
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:21] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: will do so, thanks for the pointers
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:35] <ckrough> thats a interesting idea though. check out mosso as well, not sure if we have different features that you could use vs ec2
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:49] <ckrough> http://www.mosso.com/
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:50] <magnachef> skunk: that may require more discussion that just the IRC lurkers can provide
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:56] <adytum-bot> Title: MOSSO :: The Hosting Cloud - Home (at www.mosso.com)
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:11] <magnachef> punkcut: then click the down arrove menu
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:17] <skunkwerk__> thanks guys, i'll post to the forum
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:30] <punkcut> magnachef, k
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:34] <magnachef> punk: then go to More -> Collector Plugins
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:04] <punkcut> im following.
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:12] <magnachef> then click on "Add Fields"
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:36] <punkcut> not seeing that
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:43] <magnachef> and click and drag from the right box the "zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap"
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:03] <magnachef> do you see a box with a list of collectors?
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:07] <punkcut> magnachef, ok i found it. thanks ill give that a shot
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:19] <magnachef> so move that over to the left box, then save
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:20] <punkcut> magnachef, the add fields button is light grey on a grey background. hard to see.
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:24] <magnachef> then remodel the device
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:36] <magnachef> yeah, it is subtle
[03-Jun-2008 18:54:14] <magnachef> it will lengthen your remodeling time by a lot (at least for me it did)
[03-Jun-2008 18:54:39] <punkcut> python shat itself.
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:00] <magnachef> hmm...is it still remodeling?
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:05] <punkcut> seems like it
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:47] <punkcut> http://pastebin.ca/1037976
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:48] <magnachef> cool, then check the software tab when it's done and you should see it
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:55] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 1037976 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Jun-2008 18:56:05] <punkcut> magnachef, ive got a meeting to goto. I will be back in a little while. Thanks for all the help.
[03-Jun-2008 18:56:46] <magnachef> good luck
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[03-Jun-2008 20:15:12] <mib_698587> I just found this out as I was trying to install mibs as a zenoss user:
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:16] <mib_698587> su zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:38] <magnachef> yeah, you need to do that to become the zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:49] <magnachef> were you not running the zenmib as the zenoss user before
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:58] <mib_698587> hold down i am not done
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:01] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/ .bashrc: permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:24] <mib_698587> bash-3.1$
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:50] <mib_698587> that is what I am getting, when I go in as a zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:07] <magnachef> do: ls /home/
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:34] <mib_698587> I get zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:43] <magnachef> ls -l
[03-Jun-2008 20:19:13] <mib_698587> do you want me to do this as a zenoss user?
[03-Jun-2008 20:20:00] <magnachef> try root or sudo
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:23] <mib_698587> I am in root home and I get the usual files...Desktop and files..
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:24] <magnachef> and see what the permissions are of the .bashrc file
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:43] <magnachef> ls -la /home/zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:23:13] <mib_698587> rw- r-- r-- 1
[03-Jun-2008 20:24:04] <mib_698587> is that good?
[03-Jun-2008 20:26:56] <jb> ok guys.. i think im gonna build a BIGIP zenpack
[03-Jun-2008 20:27:01] <jb> for anyone interested
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:06] <jb> just got to figure out the proper way to create a zenpack
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:20] <mib_698587> how come my zenoss user is restricted?
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:35] <mib_698587> I do su zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:58] <mib_698587> I do get the bash prompt but I also get the permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:31:29] <jb> i have no idea what you are talking about
[03-Jun-2008 20:31:54] <mib_698587> when I go in as a zenoss user to install Mibs
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:25] <pitillo> mib_698587, chmod u+x /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:33] <mib_698587> I do get the bash-3.1$ prompt and inmediately followed by "permission denied"
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:51] <mib_698587> thanks, let me try that
[03-Jun-2008 20:33:12] <mib_698587> do I do this a root or zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:33:18] <mib_698587> as root?
[03-Jun-2008 20:34:35] <pitillo> if you (zenoss user) are the owner of that file, you can do it like the user, if not, you must do it like root and then own the file to the zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:35:33] <mib_698587> I'll try firts as root
[03-Jun-2008 20:37:46] <mib_698587> I can only do it as root, as zenoss user I get permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:08] <pitillo> mib_698587, own the file for zenoss user then
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:13] <mib_698587> then I went back in as zenoss user and I got a permission denied again
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:48] <pitillo> mib_698587, chown zenoss .bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:54] <mib_698587> I can't since zenoss user is restricted, I am not able to take ownership
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:24] <mib_698587> I am basically trying to run anything as Zenoss user and I am getting permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:28] <pitillo> if you chow like root you can't too?
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:38] <mib_698587> let me try
[03-Jun-2008 20:40:44] <mib_698587> did you mean: chown zenoss /home/zenoss/.bashrc ?
[03-Jun-2008 20:42:07] <mib_698587> I am still getting permission denied..
[03-Jun-2008 20:42:57] <mib_698587> This CENTOS 5.1 and zenoss version 2.2......paths are edifferent for each distro
[03-Jun-2008 20:43:25] <mib_698587> and I thinks that sthe problem..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:03] <pitillo> I can't help too much, I modified paths for my needs
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:12] <mib_698587> thank you..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:35] <mib_698587> I do really need the help, but I am been pulled into a meeting...
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:40] <mib_698587> thank you again..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:49] <punkcut> mib_698587, this is something to do with your linux system not zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:45:04] <punkcut> mib_698587, sudo chown -R zenoss.zenoss /home/zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:45:21] <punkcut> magnachef, you around?
[03-Jun-2008 20:50:00] <magnachef> yep
[03-Jun-2008 20:50:27] <magnachef> jb: I'm very interested
[03-Jun-2008 20:51:56] <magnachef> what's up punkcut?
[03-Jun-2008 20:52:14] <magnachef> does the software tab populate now for you?
[03-Jun-2008 20:54:07] <punkcut> magnachef, aye it does. did you happen to take a look at that traceback?
[03-Jun-2008 20:54:37] <punkcut> magnachef, are you a contributer to zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:06] <magnachef> I did briefly...no, I'm not a zenoss dev
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:26] <punkcut> magnachef, im not a python expert or anything but it looks like its failing out when the ssh authentication fields are NULL. maybe thats intended behavior but im guessing it should probably return a more legible error message instead of faulting.
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:29] <magnachef> I belive it's an error with one of your collector plugins
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:08] <punkcut> os.getlogin() exceptions.OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:09] <magnachef> what plugin was displayed before this error
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:21] <punkcut> sorry didnt catch that. lemme replicate.
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:04] <punkcut> i cant really tell which one it is...
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:12] <punkcut> or can i?
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:46] <magnachef> it should list the plugins it's going through
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:09] <punkcut> it does but the error pops up about the same time it spontaneously spews forth every module
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:19] <punkcut> 2008-06-03 04:21:59 WARNING zen.ZenModeler Reconnected to ZenHub
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:32] <punkcut> right about there. and then it throws the rest of the log
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:52] <punkcut> from the look of the traceback though id take a stab at this one - 2008-06-03 04:22:00 INFO zen.ZenModeler using ssh collection device puppetmaster.localdomain
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:19] <magnachef> hmmm...not sure exactly. I had an issue similar to this and just had to remove a collector plugin that wasn't working
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:28] <magnachef> nice, I see you're running puppet ;-)
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <punkcut> :-)
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:57] <punkcut> i do however plan on using the ssh collector plugin
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:10] <punkcut> we are running an internal app which is going to need to be monitored using some simple scripts
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:26] <magnachef> the issues seems to be that it's failing to log in, and the collector is getting null data, and throwing an error about it
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:40] <magnachef> you should post to the forums
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:45] <punkcut> agreed, which is why im assuming its because my ssh creds are NULL.
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:54] <punkcut> one way to confirm. if i can confirm i will file a buggy
[03-Jun-2008 21:01:00] <magnachef> or search through the forums and see if anyone has had this issue before
[03-Jun-2008 21:09:15] <cbleach> are you using key or password authentication?
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[03-Jun-2008 22:01:26] <cbleach> I had a similar problem with 1.x version of Zenoss when using a key with required a password.
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[04-Jun-2008 00:11:51] <jcesario> I have a quick question? what is the default password for the zenoss user on the OS level?
[04-Jun-2008 00:23:11] <ckrough> hello
[04-Jun-2008 00:42:57] <ckrough> .win 1
[04-Jun-2008 01:10:26] <punkcut> I have a quick question? what is the default password for the zenoss user on the OS level?
[04-Jun-2008 01:13:24] * charlieS doesn't think one is set.. just su to zenoss as root
[04-Jun-2008 01:17:28] <punkcut> then you bypass
[04-Jun-2008 01:17:40] <punkcut> there is most definitely a password set. look at the entry for zenoss in /etc/shadow
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[04-Jun-2008 09:04:40] <stintel> good morning / timezone all
[04-Jun-2008 09:05:52] <stintel> is there any way to make Zenoss ignore loop mounted isos ?
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[04-Jun-2008 11:52:43] <mib_698587> Why my CENTOS 5.1 and Ver. 2.2 have a problem with the zenoss user?
[04-Jun-2008 11:53:12] <mib_698587> I can't do nothing with that user, it is giving me a "Permission Denied"
[04-Jun-2008 12:17:01] <tarjei> hi, does zenoss run it's own syslog daemon that collects logging?
[04-Jun-2008 12:17:14] <tarjei> If, so, is it set up in the basic configuration=
[04-Jun-2008 12:26:19] <nemo> i suggest you read the admin guide ? but yes it does
[04-Jun-2008 12:36:26] <mib_698587> is there away to backup my coollected devices with their configuration in order to do a re-install?
[04-Jun-2008 12:36:59] <mib_698587> somehow, my zenoss user does not work...it gets permission denied in every command
[04-Jun-2008 12:46:55] <pitillo> mib_698587, take a look to the directory where you installed zenoss and check owner and permissions
[04-Jun-2008 12:47:55] <pitillo> # ls -la /usr/share/zenoss/
[04-Jun-2008 12:47:55] <pitillo> drwxr-xr-x 19 zenoss zenoss 528 Jun 2 15:56 .
[04-Jun-2008 12:48:51] <pitillo> this is my case, check your $ZENHOME dir
[04-Jun-2008 12:57:39] <mib_698587> are yoyu still there
[04-Jun-2008 13:02:49] <pitillo> this is irc... if you don't see a nick leaving, I think we are here (may be people is busy, be patient)
[04-Jun-2008 13:04:15] <mib_698587> sure will
[04-Jun-2008 13:05:04] <mib_698587> ls -la /usr/share/zenoss/ gave me nothing at the prompt....no such file or directory
[04-Jun-2008 13:05:31] <mib_698587> this is a centOS 5.1 install, maybe paths are different
[04-Jun-2008 13:06:06] <mib_698587> zenoss user has not rights to anything..
[04-Jun-2008 13:06:42] <mib_698587> would be better to do a re-install? and If I do...how do I keep my devices and their configuration?
[04-Jun-2008 13:07:03] <pitillo> mib_698587, that is why I told you that path was in my case. Take a look to your $ZENHOME dir and check permissions and the owner
[04-Jun-2008 13:08:20] <pitillo> (I think I can't help too much, here I used the source and patched to my needs)
[04-Jun-2008 13:09:31] <pitillo> but I think it musn't be so hard, try to locate zenos installation dir and check what I told you. I hope someone can read this and if he's using centos installation can give you a clue in the case I am making you wasting your time checking things that must be done automatically in centos installations
[04-Jun-2008 13:10:23] <mib_698587> that was my point about re-installing, where I do not want to continue investing time on something that is flawed to begin with
[04-Jun-2008 13:11:07] <pitillo> well, think that may be that solution (re-installing) will point you at the same point you are now
[04-Jun-2008 13:11:26] <mib_698587> I am really dissapointed of this version...it was going so well...and today was my presentation to my staff...and now I have nothing
[04-Jun-2008 13:12:08] <pitillo> I am waiting to present my installation to my boss... but he seems isn't too much interested xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:12:52] <mib_698587> it does not seem to be so common what is happening to me as I can not find much info on the forums
[04-Jun-2008 13:13:32] <mib_698587> well yesterday my big boss looked over my shoulder and he was pretty impressed...but now I do have concerns about going forward
[04-Jun-2008 13:13:34] <pitillo> btw, I think it's a good app (using nagios and cacti here too) that can be tunned to our needs easily (and I only setup my network and some locations, only some snmp checks and not much more, next step is seting up alerts related to some servers and net devices)
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:20] <pitillo> mib_698587, I think you are missing some linux knowledge (may be I am in wrong, but that was my impression about file permissions bits)
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:44] <mib_698587> that is where the gola was...setup alerts an Email notification and that way we could do away with $40k support service
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:52] <mib_698587> gola=goal
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:59] <pitillo> lol 40K
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:00] <mib_698587> pitillo=straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:00] <pitillo> xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:18] <pitillo> straw?
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:34] <mib_698587> pitillo is spanish for straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:38] <mib_698587> drinking straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:02] <pitillo> nop
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:13] <pitillo> pitillo=cigarrette
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:23] <pitillo> smoking pitillos xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:59] <mib_698587> bet you did not know that
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:20] <mib_698587> italian..right
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:34] <pitillo> yeah, I didn't know the meaning of straw... Here we call cigarretes straw too
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:43] <pitillo> mib_698587, nop, I'm spaniard
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:56] <mib_698587> espania
[04-Jun-2008 13:18:03] <mib_698587> Colombia
[04-Jun-2008 13:18:59] <mib_698587> My sister in-law is from Spain...YIKES !!
[04-Jun-2008 13:19:31] <pitillo>
[04-Jun-2008 13:21:11] <mib_698587> asturias
[04-Jun-2008 13:21:49] <pitillo> north of spain... good fish there
[04-Jun-2008 13:23:34] <mib_698587> so I hear
[04-Jun-2008 13:23:48] <mib_698587> I hope one day I could visit
[04-Jun-2008 13:24:03] <mib_698587> I love Mariscos....PAELLA
[04-Jun-2008 13:24:45] <pitillo> xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:25:03] <pitillo> well, I don't want to seem rude, but may be this talk isn't welcome here
[04-Jun-2008 13:29:43] <mib_698587> sure...be rude..
[04-Jun-2008 13:30:03] <mib_698587> we are probably the only one within 2 hours
[04-Jun-2008 13:32:23] <pitillo> yeah, but think this is a channel related to zenoss, not related to our things
[04-Jun-2008 13:32:47] <pitillo> may be you can create another one called zenoss-ot to talk with people from the comunity about things off topic to this channel
[04-Jun-2008 13:33:01] <pitillo> it's some kind of policy and politness
[04-Jun-2008 13:42:39] <mib_698587> well then...back to bussiness
[04-Jun-2008 13:44:54] <mib_698587> I am trying to uninstall and I can't find the uninstall the string by using "rpm -e zenoss"....weird
[04-Jun-2008 13:46:37] <pitillo> mib_698587, I think you are going from bad to worse... have you tried to look for the zenoss installation directory and check what I said?
[04-Jun-2008 13:55:48] <twm1010> Morning.
[04-Jun-2008 13:56:21] <pitillo> hey
[04-Jun-2008 13:57:36] <twm1010> Has anyone had their device list stop functioning?
[04-Jun-2008 13:58:54] <pitillo> twm1010, well this morning I had it (all classes btw, not only devices) Reading the error report in my case solved the problem (problem with mysql passwd)
[04-Jun-2008 13:59:27] <pitillo> not sure if this is related to your error
[04-Jun-2008 13:59:47] <twm1010> Mine happened with the 2.2 upgrade
[04-Jun-2008 14:00:03] <twm1010> The device list will only show devices that you have looked at the status page for
[04-Jun-2008 14:00:43] <pitillo> twm1010, I have a fresh 2.2.0 install here, but seems my error was another issue not related to yours, sorry.
[04-Jun-2008 14:02:15] <twm1010> doh! thanks anyway
[04-Jun-2008 14:34:29] <pitillo> ummm I have a little question, I am monitoring a cisco router with snmp and I want to know if is it possible to make a graf of 1 interface (I want to see trunk usage).
[04-Jun-2008 14:35:11] <pitillo> sorry if it's explained at guide (I haven't finished it yet)
[04-Jun-2008 14:35:54] <pitillo> I think I need more reading before asking things.
[04-Jun-2008 14:43:39] <pitillo> pfff there is an entire section dedicated to graphs.... sorry
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:15] <twm1010> pitillo
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:23] <twm1010> just hit the os tab, and click on the interface
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:29] <jb> twm, do you know much about snmp?
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:57] <twm1010> Not intricately, but i know the basics
[04-Jun-2008 14:58:44] <twm1010> What are you after?
[04-Jun-2008 15:09:55] <jb> just trying to figure out some OID's
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:03] <jb> f5 is telling me this
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:09] <jb> TMM Mem Usage
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:10] <jb> sysStatMemoryUsed (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45)
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:14] <jb> so
[04-Jun-2008 15:11:04] <pitillo> omg twm1010, thank you very much. Was easier than I was thinking...
[04-Jun-2008 15:11:37] <pitillo> nice, all it's being graphed then
[04-Jun-2008 15:12:06] <twm1010> Yep
[04-Jun-2008 15:12:16] <twm1010> jb: ok and?
[04-Jun-2008 15:13:50] <jb> ok so
[04-Jun-2008 15:13:51] <jb> sysHostMemoryUsed (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.7.2)
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~$ snmpwalk -c fcsnmp1ro -v 1 bigip .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.7.2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.2.1 = INTEGER: 0
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:12] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.2.2 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:19] <jb> i would have thought it would return one integer
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:34] <nemo_> no .string !
[04-Jun-2008 15:16:14] <jb> hm?
[04-Jun-2008 15:17:45] <twm1010> well clearly there are values below that in the tree, do you have the MIB?
[04-Jun-2008 15:20:23] <jb> yeah
[04-Jun-2008 15:20:57] <twm1010> And what does it say the values below that are?
[04-Jun-2008 15:21:03] <twm1010> maybe they're a detailed breakdown
[04-Jun-2008 15:24:19] <magnachef> has anyone experience major system degradation after adding the zenoss.snmp.hrSWInstalledMap collector?
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:27] <jb> ok
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:38] <jb> i think one problem is i need to use v2c
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:43] <jb> and i think zenoss is querying using 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:31:16] <jb> wonder if there is a way to change this?
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:31] <pitillo> jb, I changed yesterday in settings menu and there in commands, editting the snmp query
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:34] <magnachef> zProperties at that class
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:41] <mib_698587> Can anyone help me set my path straight for the Zenoss user, everything I do with it is permission denied....I am using zenoss 2.2
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:01] <pitillo> (if someone can tell a better way to do that I can be glad too)
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:17] <magnachef> jb: change the zSnmpVer to 2c for that class
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:20] <mib_698587> or maybe help me to uninstall and save my devices
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:26] <pitillo> magnachef, oh that's nice. I didn't think on that (btw, here we are using v2c in all snmp)
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:49] <magnachef> yeah, I have a mix
[04-Jun-2008 15:35:03] <jb> thanks
[04-Jun-2008 15:36:38] <pitillo> it's good to know and think in z-properties better than changing it in a general way. Thank you for that tip. Taking note
[04-Jun-2008 15:36:59] <magnachef> yep
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:33] <jb> arg
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:34] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "TMM Mem Usage" on fc-f5-03.follett.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45 is bad)
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:36] <jb> this is bs
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:49] <mib_698587> there is a z-property for each devices, they are applied inheritanly but could be changed at the local level
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:05] <magnachef> it can be at the device or class level
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:11] <jb> Executing command against fc-f5-03.follett.com
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45.0 = Counter64: 23890444
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:12] <jb> DONE in 0 seconds
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:24] <jb> why the hell is it saying it's a bad OID
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:14] <magnachef> because you don't have the .0 at the end of the OID
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:27] <magnachef> I'm guessing
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:45] <mib_698587> you could get bad oids messages if your thesholds are being exceeded...weird, but that how it is with me
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:52] <jb> no thresholds
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:04] <mib_698587> that is all I got
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:24] <jb> ok
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:25] <jb> it was the .0
[04-Jun-2008 15:40:28] <jb> thanks magnachef
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:28] <mib_698587> can anyone help me uninstall 2.2 and save my devices at the same time?
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:29] <jb> ok now we are gettign somewhere
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:37] <jb> mib: good luck with that
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:51] <jb> you can try a zenbackup
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:54] <jb> install 2.1.x
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:56] <jb> then zenrestore
[04-Jun-2008 15:41:58] <jb> then zenmigrate
[04-Jun-2008 15:42:00] <jb> and it MIGHT work
[04-Jun-2008 15:42:19] <mib_698587> I need to unistall, my zenoss user is not working..I am not able to install MIBS
[04-Jun-2008 15:42:38] <jb> whats the error?
[04-Jun-2008 15:43:03] <mib_698587> when I type #su zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 15:43:25] <mib_698587> it gives me #bash-3.1: permission denied
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:06] <jb> what makes you think thats a zenoss issue?
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:08] <mib_698587> I have been using this install for 6 days and I just notice this
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:13] <jb> its obviously a problem with your .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:27] <jb> cat ~zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:28] <jb> and paste
[04-Jun-2008 15:44:31] <mib_698587> because is the zenoss user trying to setup the enviroment
[04-Jun-2008 15:48:48] <jb> ..
[04-Jun-2008 15:52:41] <mib_698587> I am tryng to get you the information..
[04-Jun-2008 15:52:53] <mib_698587> it is ain another linux machine..
[04-Jun-2008 15:53:24] <mib_698587> I am trying to set up ssh so I could get the screen output
[04-Jun-2008 15:53:39] <mib_698587> thank you
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:07] <mib_698587> [root@localhost ~]# cat ~zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:27] <mib_698587> # .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:39] <mib_698587> # Source global definitions
[04-Jun-2008 15:56:51] <mib_698587> if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:05] <mib_698587> . /etc/bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:17] <mib_698587> fi
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:30] <mib_698587> # User specific aliases and functions
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:43] <mib_698587> export ZENHOME="/opt/zenoss"
[04-Jun-2008 15:57:53] <mib_698587> export PATH="${ZENHOME}/bin:${PATH}"
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:01] <magnachef> do: ls -la ~zenoss/
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:06] <mib_698587> export PYTHONPATH="/opt/zenoss/lib/python"
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:22] <mib_698587> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/zenoss/lib"
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:34] <mib_698587> . /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh[root@localhost ~]#
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:46] <mib_698587> [root@localhost ~]# # .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 15:58:49] <mib_698587> that is it
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:04] <jb> its probably permissions on /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh ..
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:10] <jb> can you run that?
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:14] <mib_698587> drwx------ 2 1337 zenoss 4096 May 20 09:36 .
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:28] <jb> on /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:33] <mib_698587> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 15 09:49 ..
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:54] <mib_698587> what do you want me to do?
[04-Jun-2008 15:59:59] <jb> try running /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:03] <jb> as zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:31] <mib_698587> when I try to run as Zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:37] <mib_698587> this is what I get:
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:39] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/.bashrc: Permission denied
[04-Jun-2008 16:00:57] <jb> well there you go..
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:06] <jb> uhm
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:06] <mib_698587> ?
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:17] <jb> its permissions on .bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:38] <mib_698587> the only reason I discovered this is because I wanted to install mibs via command line
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:48] <mib_698587> how do I fix that?
[04-Jun-2008 16:01:58] <mib_698587> let save the why...for later
[04-Jun-2008 16:02:26] <jb> chown zenoss:zenoss ~zenoss/.bashrc && chmod 644 ~zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:02:33] <jb> as root.
[04-Jun-2008 16:03:53] <mib_698587> I still get the same message
[04-Jun-2008 16:03:54] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/.bashrc: Permission denied
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:03] <jb> ls -la /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:14] <jb> you really aren't giving much info
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:14] <magnachef> I wonder if it's the permissions of the entire home dir
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:24] <jb> could be..
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:28] <jb> check them all
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:44] <mib_698587> I know..I am actually really good since I am a linux noobie
[04-Jun-2008 16:04:59] <mib_698587> that is why I wanted to uninstall
[04-Jun-2008 16:05:11] <mib_698587> save my devices and restart all over
[04-Jun-2008 16:05:17] <jb> if your parent permissions are messed up, a reinstall won't fix anything.
[04-Jun-2008 16:05:44] <mib_698587> I want to do away with everything zenoss and do a clean install
[04-Jun-2008 16:08:42] <mib_698587> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 311 May 20 09:36 /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:22] <mib_698587> are you using centOS 5.1
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:26] <jb> yes
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:43] <jb> chmod +x it
[04-Jun-2008 16:09:49] <jb> and try to run it as zenoss
[04-Jun-2008 16:11:51] <mib_698587> chmod +x..is that the whole command
[04-Jun-2008 16:13:00] Lego_ is now known as Lego
[04-Jun-2008 16:14:30] <mib_698587> how would you about uninstalling>:
[04-Jun-2008 16:15:07] <mib_698587> I am not able to find the installation..using RPM
[04-Jun-2008 16:32:30] <mib_698587> While reinstalling Zenoss using the stack install...mysql asks for user and password..it this the root user?
[04-Jun-2008 16:33:08] <nemo_> no
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> # Poll OID sysTcpStatAccepts (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.12.6) twice, at a 10-second interval.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> This results in two values, <sysTcpStatAccepts1> and <sysTcpStatAccepts2>.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> Note: Although this example uses an interval of ten seconds, the interval can actually be any duration that you choose.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> # Calculate the delta of the two poll values:
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <jb> <DeltaTcpStatAccepts> = <sysTcpStatAccepts2> - <sysTcpStatAccepts1>
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:26] <jb> # Calculate the value of the Client Accepts graph metric using the calculation shown in Table 14.6 (<DeltaTcpStatAccepts> / <interval>), where the value of <interval> is 10.
[04-Jun-2008 16:40:29] <jb> wonder how hard this would be?
[04-Jun-2008 16:42:01] <twm1010> jb
[04-Jun-2008 16:42:16] <twm1010> Zenoss there are other datasource types for your performance collectors
[04-Jun-2008 16:42:28] <twm1010> there is one that tracks the change in a value
[04-Jun-2008 16:44:19] <twm1010> yeah, there it is, derive type
[04-Jun-2008 16:44:52] <twm1010> Though, I'm not sure how you would get it to poll twice in 10 seconds, and then again at the regular interval
[04-Jun-2008 16:45:44] <twm1010> or if you'd want to for that matter
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:19] <jb> yeah
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:31] <jb> ok so derive type
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:41] <jb> basically im wanting to graph connections per second
[04-Jun-2008 16:48:55] <jb> i'll play with it
[04-Jun-2008 16:53:49] <twm1010> well
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:00] <twm1010> just change the adjustment then on the graph
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:11] <twm1010> take the change, divide it by your interval for graphing purposes
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:33] <twm1010> but the larger your interval, the less accurate
[04-Jun-2008 16:54:50] <twm1010> well perhaps not less accurate, just less detail
[04-Jun-2008 16:55:39] <jb> how do you adjust the type of graph again.. my graphs are just using lines, and not filling the entire area
[04-Jun-2008 16:55:43] <jb> know what im sayin?
[04-Jun-2008 16:57:02] <jb> ah never mind
[04-Jun-2008 16:57:03] <jb> found it
[04-Jun-2008 18:21:15] <punkcut> magnachef, ping!
[04-Jun-2008 18:21:24] <magnachef> pong punk
[04-Jun-2008 18:21:38] <magnachef> how goes it?!
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:05] <punkcut> good. just had our first demo of zenoss with the higher ups.
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:16] <punkcut> they are extremely pleased. I have to say, it really is powerful.
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:26] <magnachef> nice...did you get the software tab working?
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:27] <punkcut> its just incredibly unintuitive.
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:43] <punkcut> magnachef, I did. and that traceback was related to having the ssh login creds being null
[04-Jun-2008 18:22:57] <punkcut> magnachef, thanks so much for the help.
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:21] <magnachef> I enabled the hrSWInstalledMap collector plugin yesterday, but noticed that shortly after, my load increased greatly on the server
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:26] <magnachef> no problem :-)
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:37] <punkcut> on your zenoss server or on the client?
[04-Jun-2008 18:23:49] <magnachef> on my server
[04-Jun-2008 18:24:05] <punkcut> magnachef, and was it sustained? or just during the collection/modeling period?
[04-Jun-2008 18:24:21] <magnachef> not sure how many devices you have, but it was sustained until I removed it
[04-Jun-2008 18:24:35] <punkcut> most likely our device count is going to peak around 500
[04-Jun-2008 18:25:11] <magnachef> that's about where I'm at...I am monitoring my server via Cacti and Zenoss and noticed a high memory usage, load, and disk IO
[04-Jun-2008 18:25:31] <magnachef> ...in addition to slowdown of the interface
[04-Jun-2008 18:26:12] <punkcut> what kind of hardware are you running your zenoss box on?
[04-Jun-2008 18:26:18] <magnachef> I haven't really figured out where the issue was exactly, but just something to keep in mind
[04-Jun-2008 18:26:55] <magnachef> IBM 336
[04-Jun-2008 18:27:08] <mib_698587> what is the password for MYSQL at the time of install for version 2.2?
[04-Jun-2008 18:27:20] <magnachef> 2 3Ghz Xeon's
[04-Jun-2008 18:27:54] <punkcut> magnachef, is it the db or is it something about the zabbix procesS?
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:06] <punkcut> magnachef, if its the db i might be able to help.
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:08] <magnachef> 2 Gigs of memory
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:24] <magnachef> zabbix, you mean zenoss? ;-P
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:30] <punkcut> zenoss, sorry
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:35] <magnachef> seems like memory
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:36] <punkcut> too many z monitoring systems.
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:45] <punkcut> I would guess because all the db tables are innodb
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:48] <punkcut> which is a memory hog
[04-Jun-2008 18:28:50] <magnachef> probably something to do with Zope
[04-Jun-2008 18:29:05] <punkcut> if you log into mysql. you can see what innodb is using with "SHOW ENGINE INNODB STATUS\G"
[04-Jun-2008 18:29:18] <punkcut> '\G is pure preference but i prefer its output.
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:24] <punkcut> look to see if the free memory in the buffer pool is at 0
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:50] <punkcut> Total memory allocated 18577806; in additional pool allocated 1048448
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Buffer pool size 512
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Free buffers 313
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Database pages 198
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Modified db pages 3
[04-Jun-2008 18:30:51] <punkcut> Pending reads 0
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:09] <magnachef> free buffers 1
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:19] <punkcut> sounds like you need to allocate some more memory
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:33] <punkcut> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/innodb-configuration.html
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:37] <punkcut> theres the doc page
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:40] <magnachef> buffer pool hit rate 1000/1000
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:46] <punkcut> thats really good
[04-Jun-2008 18:32:48] <adytum-bot> Title: MySQL :: MySQL 5.0 Reference Manual :: 13.2.3 InnoDB Configuration (at dev.mysql.com)
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:02] <magnachef> Total memory allocated 18907646
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:11] <punkcut> innodb_buffer_pool_size
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:12] <magnachef> in additional pool allocated 1048448
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:17] <punkcut> thats the option that really matters
[04-Jun-2008 18:33:48] <punkcut> increase that and innodb has a lot more allocated memory for indices. even though it will try and grab more memory from the system. youll still get better performance by allocating it.
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:03] <magnachef> I know python was hogging a lot of memory and resources during the degradation
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:19] <magnachef> good to know
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:37] <punkcut> also, check to see if you have any of the myisam buffers assigned
[04-Jun-2008 18:34:47] <punkcut> they are turned on by default, and might be stealing a lot of valuable memory away from innodb
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:13] <punkcut> you can basically turn your myISAM key buffer down to like 8MB as long as you dont have any myISAM tables.
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:23] <punkcut> it still like to have _something_ though.
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:45] <punkcut> \u events; SHOW TABLE STATUS;
[04-Jun-2008 18:35:59] <punkcut> should give you a good overview of some good stats for the zenoss db
[04-Jun-2008 18:36:56] <punkcut> zope does use a considerable amount of memory from what I see, but just a fresh db with one device has used close to 200MB of my innodb buffers
[04-Jun-2008 18:38:24] <magnachef> don't see anything about myisam
[04-Jun-2008 18:38:53] <punkcut> yah the zenoss db is pure Inno from what i saw in 2.2
[04-Jun-2008 18:46:02] <magnachef> I don't seem to see my "/etc/my.cnf" config
[04-Jun-2008 18:47:16] <magnachef> does the mysql that comes with Zenoss put it elsewhere
[04-Jun-2008 18:47:25] <punkcut> it depends on which rpm
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:20] <punkcut> did you use the zenoss-stack package by any chance?
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:21] <magnachef> centos 5.0.24a
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:31] <punkcut> ps aux | grep my.cnf
[04-Jun-2008 18:48:39] <punkcut> it should show up in the process line for mysql
[04-Jun-2008 18:50:59] <magnachef> surprisingly, not...mysql is running, but no my.cnf in the command
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:12] <punkcut> interesting...
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:16] <magnachef> I do have the my.cnf.rpmsave, but that's it
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:26] <punkcut> if /etc/my.cnf doesnt exist then. its running off its internal defaults
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:28] <magnachef> in /etc
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:36] <magnachef> gotcha
[04-Jun-2008 18:51:59] <punkcut> i used the zenoss-stack 2.2 rpm on centos 5.1
[04-Jun-2008 18:52:01] <magnachef> ok, so I just need to modify the my.cnf.rpmnew
[04-Jun-2008 18:52:07] <punkcut> and its in /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/my.cnf
[04-Jun-2008 18:53:41] <magnachef> ok, mine is in /opt/zenoss/etc/my.cnf
[04-Jun-2008 18:54:33] <magnachef> innodb_buffer_pool_size = 256M
[04-Jun-2008 18:54:48] <magnachef> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 20M
[04-Jun-2008 18:55:01] <magnachef> those must be the defaults
[04-Jun-2008 19:01:38] <magnachef> I may need to up the amount of physical memory in this server
[04-Jun-2008 19:02:41] <magnachef> it seems like there's 17Megs of free memory, and it's definitely using swap a good amount
[04-Jun-2008 21:30:08] <jb> twm..
[04-Jun-2008 21:30:19] <jb> btw, AIX's snmpd is nothing like net-snmp
[04-Jun-2008 21:31:23] <punkcut> magnachef, hows it going?
[04-Jun-2008 21:33:37] <magnachef> not too bad
[04-Jun-2008 21:34:29] <magnachef> using swap like a mo fo!
[04-Jun-2008 21:37:35] <punkcut> thats not good.
[04-Jun-2008 21:37:43] <punkcut> sounds like your system does need that physical memory upgrade.
[04-Jun-2008 21:39:57] <punkcut> magnachef, although something simple you might do which might help a little bit is to stop your mysql server. if you suddenly stop actively using swap and free up a metric ton of memory. go ahead and crank up your innodb buffer and it might not swap next time.
[04-Jun-2008 21:41:32] <magnachef> yeah, I'm thinking about doing a restart of zenoss tonight, just to see if that'll help
[04-Jun-2008 21:41:46] <magnachef> but there is some physical memory about to go in it
[04-Jun-2008 21:41:49] <magnachef> up it to 4 gig
[04-Jun-2008 21:42:41] <punkcut> that sounds perfect.
[04-Jun-2008 21:42:46] <punkcut> id crank your innodb buffer up to 1gb
[04-Jun-2008 21:42:52] <punkcut> if it uses it all, increment by 512mb
[04-Jun-2008 21:43:28] <punkcut> once i learn what kind of queries zenoss uses i can be more specific
[04-Jun-2008 21:43:30] <magnachef> I'm worried about giving it too much, as python seems to pretty much taking up most of the memory
[04-Jun-2008 21:43:41] <punkcut> if mysql is out of memory, its slowing you down.
[04-Jun-2008 21:44:01] <punkcut> cuz itll either go out and make tmp tables (either in memory or on disk depending on settings) or its going to goto swap
[04-Jun-2008 21:44:14] <punkcut> SHOW STATUS LIKE '%tmp%';
[04-Jun-2008 21:44:30] <punkcut> i do share the concern about python though, that zope is a beast.
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:19] <punkcut> i have a question. How difficult is it to make custom graphs for zenoss?
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:34] <magnachef> not bad...depending on what you want to do
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:45] <punkcut> I need to use iptraf to track per-port network usage.
[04-Jun-2008 21:45:56] <punkcut> it dumps the info to text. I need to get that text into zenoss as a graph.
[04-Jun-2008 21:46:01] <punkcut> can you point me to any docs?
[04-Jun-2008 21:46:22] <magnachef> I'd say check out the admin guide
[04-Jun-2008 21:46:37] <magnachef> I haven't done any of that type of graph creation with Zenoss...I have with Cacti though
[04-Jun-2008 21:48:18] <magnachef> check the wiki too
[04-Jun-2008 21:51:13] <magnachef> Created_tmp_files 5
[04-Jun-2008 21:51:21] <magnachef> Created_tmp_tables 1
[04-Jun-2008 21:51:38] <magnachef> Created_tmp_disk_tables 0
[04-Jun-2008 21:56:21] * magnachef thinks that this may be related to zenmodel running
[04-Jun-2008 22:00:59] <magnachef> I saw zenmodler at 1.4G of memory
[04-Jun-2008 22:04:36] <punkcut> wowzas
[04-Jun-2008 22:05:14] <magnachef> yeah, I'm gonna have to make sure that it doesn't run by default, and get that in as a cronjob during the night
[04-Jun-2008 22:08:21] <magnachef> so I'm assuming that when I added the hrSWInstalledMap collector, it was that much more that it was collecting info on
[04-Jun-2008 22:13:39] <punkcut> so the zen modeler runs constantly but doesnt need to?
[04-Jun-2008 22:13:50] <magnachef> seems like it
[04-Jun-2008 22:14:32] <magnachef> that just gets info like new interfaces, disks, packages, etc
[04-Jun-2008 22:14:43] <magnachef> doesn't seem to be linked to polling
[04-Jun-2008 22:14:57] <magnachef> so it basically does a remodel of every device
[04-Jun-2008 22:17:27] <magnachef> well, I'm out for the night
[04-Jun-2008 22:17:47] <magnachef> see ya tomorrow!
[04-Jun-2008 23:58:18] <Zenoss> evening all
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[05-Jun-2008 00:17:03] <twm1010-osx> Could someone point me in the right direction on where you configure default DNS search suffixes in Linux?
[05-Jun-2008 02:30:08] <cbleach1> What daemons need to be running on a performance collector?
[05-Jun-2008 03:01:34] <twm1010-osx> just a collector?
[05-Jun-2008 03:01:47] <twm1010-osx> whatever is in the zenoss-plugins package
[05-Jun-2008 03:08:07] <cbleach1> So you can run a zenmodeler for every collector?
[05-Jun-2008 03:08:34] <cbleach1> and it will just model the devices that are assigned to that collector?
[05-Jun-2008 04:12:09] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - TX-Theory - 05 Jun, 01:05AM
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[05-Jun-2008 05:24:58] <troy42> twm1010-osx: if nobody said, /etc/resolv.conf
[05-Jun-2008 05:25:03] <troy42> just seeing your msg now
[05-Jun-2008 05:34:27] <lahirup> I receive this on event console: WMI connect error on SVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[05-Jun-2008 05:35:03] <lahirup> is there anyone who is familiar with this error
[05-Jun-2008 06:56:18] <[AH]iggi> hello, I am new to zenoss, I have zenoss running but I have a few questions on configuring a device I am monitoring can anyone help me?
[05-Jun-2008 06:58:37] <DarkMats> Just ask. If anyone know. They will help
[05-Jun-2008 06:59:49] <[AH]iggi> Well I have it connected to a switch and the switch has multiple port and she show up as FastEthernet0/1 FastEthernet0/2 etc. is there a way I can label them to indicate whats connected to each port
[05-Jun-2008 07:00:22] <[AH]iggi> excuse my bad grammar it's 3 am here
[05-Jun-2008 07:02:35] <DarkMats> Ah, if you find that out, let me know. Been thinking about that too
[05-Jun-2008 07:02:47] <[AH]iggi> yeah
[05-Jun-2008 07:03:27] <[AH]iggi> then I want to create a user and allow the user to see the status of only one port i.e. a dedicated server customer to see ONLY his bandwidth usage
[05-Jun-2008 08:58:13] <MrTux> [AH]iggi: that's only possible with the enterprise version imho
[05-Jun-2008 10:22:01] <linash> hi,
[05-Jun-2008 10:22:07] <linash> is there a way to collect net-snmp 'extend' oids? because since the oid use a string index (eg: 1.3.6.1.4.1.8072.1.3.2.3.1.4.'"extendName"' ) Zenoss doesn't accept them...
[05-Jun-2008 10:57:34] <nemo_> known issue, no known solution
[05-Jun-2008 10:57:44] <nemo_> maybe zenoss 3.x will deal with it better
[05-Jun-2008 10:58:58] <linash> ok, thx.
[05-Jun-2008 12:24:27] <ccesario> morning!
[05-Jun-2008 12:27:54] <nemo_> hai!
[05-Jun-2008 12:31:48] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 12:41:47] <ccesario> Somebody have install the last zenoss in opensuse ?
[05-Jun-2008 12:58:01] <nemo_> anyone using LDAP ?
[05-Jun-2008 12:58:05] <nemo_> for user logins
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:01] <ccesario> I installed the last zenoss from svn in OpenSuse-10.3
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:08] <ccesario> the install is ok
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:18] <ccesario> but when I create one device
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:21] <ccesario> I get this error
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:23] <ccesario> http://pastebin.com/m27209f61
[05-Jun-2008 13:14:35] <ccesario> somebody have any idea?
[05-Jun-2008 13:17:21] <pitillo> ccesario, I am new to this, not sure if I can help, but are you discovering manually a device?
[05-Jun-2008 13:18:22] <pitillo> sorry, I saw you add it, not discovered
[05-Jun-2008 13:19:15] <ccesario> pitillo, I try add manually and (this host is ok)
[05-Jun-2008 13:21:00] <pitillo> ccesario, yes sorry, I missreaded your question. I thought you were discovering 1 device instead of adding it. Sorry.
[05-Jun-2008 13:21:15] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 13:51:47] <ccesario> any developer ?
[05-Jun-2008 13:52:39] <twm1010> I don't know that I've seen the developers in here, usually just some support people and community.
[05-Jun-2008 13:52:55] <jb> they used to hang out in here..
[05-Jun-2008 13:52:57] <jb> long ago
[05-Jun-2008 13:53:18] <ccesario> twm1010, http://pastebin.com/m27209f61 idea about this error ?
[05-Jun-2008 13:55:16] <twm1010> Try adding the device without SNMP
[05-Jun-2008 13:55:19] <twm1010> then model it
[05-Jun-2008 13:55:23] <twm1010> i've had to do that before
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:06] <ccesario> twm1010, without snmp its work
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:22] <ccesario> but this work in previous zenoss version
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:23] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 14:01:34] <twm1010> Well sure, just trying to help you figure out what part is breaking it.
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:37] <ccesario> ehehehe
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:39] <ccesario> yes yes
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:40] <ccesario> I know
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:41] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 14:02:44] <ccesario> thanks
[05-Jun-2008 14:03:00] <twm1010> Now see if a re-model crashes it
[05-Jun-2008 14:06:12] <ccesario> twm1010, no no
[05-Jun-2008 14:06:16] <ccesario> when I re-model
[05-Jun-2008 14:06:18] <ccesario> its ok
[05-Jun-2008 14:07:02] <twm1010> Well, let's call that a workaround. See if it does it with similar devices, perhaps one of the collectors caused it
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:03] <linash__> nemo_, I found a workaround for the net-snmp extends issue. Do you know if there is a ticket for this so I can post it there?
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:25] <nemo_> no idea linash_
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:35] <nemo_> post it to the forum pls !
[05-Jun-2008 14:08:43] <nemo_> so we can find it publicly
[05-Jun-2008 14:13:44] <jb> the forums haven't proved to be very helpful lately unfortuantly
[05-Jun-2008 14:13:55] <ccesario> twm1010, I think this is a bug
[05-Jun-2008 14:13:57] <ccesario> O-o
[05-Jun-2008 14:15:56] <twm1010> I never could pin mine down.
[05-Jun-2008 14:16:00] <twm1010> it came and went
[05-Jun-2008 14:16:05] <twm1010> sometimes a restart of Zenoss would clear it
[05-Jun-2008 14:16:39] <twm1010> jb: i suggest to matt that they work up some kind of customer facing knowledgebase of solutions
[05-Jun-2008 14:18:46] <jb> yea
[05-Jun-2008 14:19:38] <twm1010> It's kind of difficult though, to separate solutions from bugs in the program
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:15] <nemo_> resources !
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:28] <nemo_> zenoss is a hungry beast
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:33] <twm1010> Indeed...
[05-Jun-2008 14:21:42] <nemo_> i added a 16gb swapfile today to try and temporarily satisfy
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> total used free shared buffers cached
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> Mem: 8175256 8127388 47868 0 19540 2057852
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> -/+ buffers/cache: 6049996 2125260
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <nemo_> Swap: 23192924 7190940 16001984
[05-Jun-2008 14:22:57] <twm1010> My original appliance was monitoring 20 devices w/1GB ram... I left it that way even after I ramped up to 180 devices...
[05-Jun-2008 14:23:06] <twm1010> allocated another 1.5GB and now its smoking
[05-Jun-2008 14:23:14] <twm1010> though I think the appliance comes with a 128MB swap
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:09] <twm1010> How many devices are you monitoring nemo?
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:26] <nemo_> ~2000
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:38] <jb> i was doing ~100 devices with 2GB of ram
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:44] <jb> im running on 8GB now tho
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:55] <jb> ~2000 with 2GB?
[05-Jun-2008 14:25:57] <jb> oh, you definetely need more
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:02] <twm1010> looks like 8GB to me
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:02] <nemo_> 2gb ram ?
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:03] <nemo_>
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:05] <nemo_> hehe
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:18] <nemo_> its 8 gb ram + 20 gb ofg swap ish
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:23] <jb> oh
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:28] <jb> didnt even see that
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:31] <twm1010> crikey... and this is the only server?
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:37] <jb> damn
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:37] <nemo_> moving perf jobs to collectors soon
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:39] <jb> 7GB of swap?
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:46] <jb> yeah you are swapping quite a bit
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:47] <nemo_> 20gb of swap
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:51] <nemo_> ;p
[05-Jun-2008 14:26:52] <jb> yeah but you are using 7GB
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:04] <nemo_> 7gb of swap in use
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:08] <nemo_> yah
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:23] <jb> you guys monitoring any cisco switches?
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:36] <nemo_> 16:27:15 up 3 days, 2:59, 6 users, load average: 0.05, 0.26, 0.35
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:47] <nemo_> so the box is doing well on the extra memory, not suffering
[05-Jun-2008 14:27:59] <nemo_> yes lots of switches
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:06] <nemo_> WMI/perfsnmp
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:10] <jb> what info are you able to model?
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:14] <nemo_> everything
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:19] <jb> is it populating Serial #, etc?
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb> Tag #
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb> Serial #
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <jb> HW Make
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:37] <jb> Cisco
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:39] <jb> HW Model
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:41] <jb> 37xxStack
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:43] <jb> OS Make
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:45] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:47] <jb> OS Version
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:49] <jb>
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:53] <jb> thats all im getting
[05-Jun-2008 14:28:55] <jb> maybe cause this is a stack
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:30] <nemo_> yes mostly
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:37] <nemo_> yeh i get stack details too
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:39] <jb> so youa re getting serial/os info?
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:44] <nemo_> if its there
[05-Jun-2008 14:29:51] <twm1010> let me see what i get here
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:17] <jb> i want to monitor some ASA's too
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:21] <nemo_> sometimes the modeller needs more passes
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:35] <twm1010> I get same thing as you jb
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:47] <jb> what about any performance collectors for cisco
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:48] <jb> cpu, etc
[05-Jun-2008 14:30:52] <twm1010> those work
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:01] <jb> mine shows nothing
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:02] <jb> no graphs
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:09] <jb> is there a zenpack or something?
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:25] <twm1010> no, perhaps your SNMP is setup a little tighter on the device itself?
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:39] <twm1010> i got 6509's and 37xx series... both working fine
[05-Jun-2008 14:31:52] <jb> hm snmp read only is completely open to this host
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:00] <twm1010> odd
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:10] <twm1010> what version SNMP for that device class?
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:16] <jb> that culd be it.
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:17] <jb> probably 1
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:20] <jb> what about you
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:34] <jb> yep, 1
[05-Jun-2008 14:32:50] <twm1010> v1 here
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:16] <nemo_> v1
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:18] <nemo_> easy
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:23] <jb> argh
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:32] <nemo_> check snmp bugs for v2
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:39] <nemo_> i thought i saw something bout that
[05-Jun-2008 14:33:43] <twm1010> mrayzenoss: An update was made available for the appliance last night, what was it?
[05-Jun-2008 14:34:40] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I don't know, I'll ask
[05-Jun-2008 14:35:15] <jb> well i dont have a template with graphs defined on /Devices/Network/Switch
[05-Jun-2008 14:35:18] <jb> which are you guys using?
[05-Jun-2008 14:36:14] <twm1010> one sec
[05-Jun-2008 14:36:40] <twm1010> plain ole "device" template is bound there
[05-Jun-2008 14:37:30] <twm1010> ahh... sorry there... no, i don't get graphs from my switches
[05-Jun-2008 14:37:51] <twm1010> I forgot that my two core switches are in place as "routers", and are in another device class
[05-Jun-2008 14:38:27] <jb> ah ok
[05-Jun-2008 14:38:59] <jb> so your routers are getting performance graphs (non ethernet)?
[05-Jun-2008 14:38:59] <twm1010> I'm going to make a sub-class for Cisco switches and copy the template from the routers over ot there, i doubt they use different OIDs
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:03] <twm1010> yes
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:10] <twm1010> i get cpu, memory, and then each interface
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:16] <jb> ah ok I see the template now
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:19] <jb> im gonna try to copy it over
[05-Jun-2008 14:39:49] <jb> you have any cisco mibs loaded?
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:00] <twm1010> yeah, damn near all of them
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:07] <jb> where did you get them?
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:10] <jb> cisco's site?
[05-Jun-2008 14:40:41] <twm1010> no... I got them from the mib warehouse or something like that, i payed a small fee and got access to thousands of mibs or something like that
[05-Jun-2008 14:41:06] <twm1010> the Cisco one had a lot it seemed decently up to date, i figured load everything and if something is missing get that direct from cisco
[05-Jun-2008 14:42:00] <jb> wonder if it has the firewall/asa/pix stuff
[05-Jun-2008 14:42:38] <twm1010> i still have access to it, i could send it to you
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:23] <jb> ok i copied the router template
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:27] <jb> looks like it will work once we have some data
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:31] <jb> twm1010: would you mind?
[05-Jun-2008 14:43:43] <twm1010> sure give me a few minutes... i need to redownload a lot of those anyway
[05-Jun-2008 14:44:06] <jb> thanks
[05-Jun-2008 14:51:58] <twm1010> see now is when i pay the penalty for not keeping my email organized
[05-Jun-2008 14:52:08] <jb> search
[05-Jun-2008 14:52:27] <twm1010> I've had to search for this same e-mail before, and its got weird syntax that prevents it from showing up
[05-Jun-2008 14:54:14] <mrayzenoss> try this thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18614#18614
[05-Jun-2008 14:54:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Monitor Cisco switches (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Jun-2008 14:54:47] <mrayzenoss> I should put that in the wiki somewhere
[05-Jun-2008 14:55:34] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I was told there was not an appliance upgrade
[05-Jun-2008 14:55:57] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: what was the upgrade?
[05-Jun-2008 14:56:40] <twm1010> it said it was 2.2.0-4-1 to 2.2.0-5-1 or something like that
[05-Jun-2008 14:56:54] <twm1010> i got an e-mail from my appliance saying there was an update, ran a backup, and ran updateall
[05-Jun-2008 14:56:57] <twm1010> it installed like 5 things
[05-Jun-2008 14:58:46] <mrayzenoss> do you have a list of what got installed?
[05-Jun-2008 14:59:01] <twm1010> no, i wonder im sure conary keeps a log though
[05-Jun-2008 15:00:28] <mrayzenoss> conary rblist is the command
[05-Jun-2008 15:00:34] <mrayzenoss> email me the output and I'll pass it on
[05-Jun-2008 15:00:54] <mrayzenoss> we're a little busy right now, but I'll get someone to take a look
[05-Jun-2008 15:02:32] <twm1010> ah, here it is
[05-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <twm1010> updated: zenoss(:doc :lib :runtime) zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-2.2/2.2.0-4-5 -> 2.2.0-5-1
[05-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <twm1010> updated: group-zenoss zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-2.2/2.2.0-0.2-2 -> 2.2.0-0.2-3
[05-Jun-2008 15:07:45] <twm1010> will have to get back to you on that JB
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:16] <jb> wow
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:29] <jb> this tar of cisco MIB's for the 3750 contains 1087 files
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:40] <twm1010> probably all the supporting mibs
[05-Jun-2008 15:10:58] <jb> did you load them all?
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:05] <twm1010> yep
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:29] <twm1010> if i remember correctly i threw like every mib from every manufacture in one directory and hit zenmib --run *
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:34] <twm1010> it took like 90 minutes
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:35] <twm1010> hehe
[05-Jun-2008 15:11:52] <jb> hehe
[05-Jun-2008 15:14:30] <ccesario> somebody have ibm xseries Mibs ?
[05-Jun-2008 15:14:46] <twm1010> and no i do not think that perf template works for the switches
[05-Jun-2008 15:15:39] <nemo_> does for me
[05-Jun-2008 15:15:53] <nemo_> i didnt do anything except put them under /devices/network
[05-Jun-2008 15:16:02] <nemo_> are you looking in the perf tab or OS tab ?
[05-Jun-2008 15:16:19] <nemo_> OS tab contains interfaces btw
[05-Jun-2008 15:16:55] <twm1010> perf tab, trying to check cpu and free memory
[05-Jun-2008 15:18:52] <twm1010> Ah... i was being impatient, looks like it is working
[05-Jun-2008 15:19:27] <jb> yeah its working
[05-Jun-2008 15:19:32] <jb> for me at least
[05-Jun-2008 15:19:47] <jb> acually, mine still say "nan"
[05-Jun-2008 15:23:09] <nemo_> NaN
[05-Jun-2008 15:23:10] <nemo_>
[05-Jun-2008 15:23:15] <nemo_> i got that somewhere too
[05-Jun-2008 15:36:08] <jb> argh
[05-Jun-2008 15:36:17] <jb> we -really- need some documentation on writing modelers
[05-Jun-2008 15:36:23] <jb> mrayzenoss
[05-Jun-2008 15:37:49] <jb> it really should not be this difficult to populate Tag/Serial/OS/HW Model/HW Maker information
[05-Jun-2008 15:56:39] <twm1010> You assume its in the same spot for each device
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:24] <jb> well, i need to customly populate all of that stuff
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:26] <jb> for bigips
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:31] <jb> and nobody can figure out how to do it
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:48] <jb> if there was just ANY documentation on it
[05-Jun-2008 15:57:58] <jb> it would be awesome if you could just assign those value's OID's thru the interface
[05-Jun-2008 15:58:21] <twm1010> Indeed, take a look at the HP or Dell zenpacks, and their collector scripts
[05-Jun-2008 15:59:41] <jb> yeah, which is what I did for old style zenpacks
[05-Jun-2008 15:59:56] <jb> but we are having issues with this in 2.2
[05-Jun-2008 16:05:22] <locohost> anyone ever notice some random things missing out of the /opt/zenoss/bin and etc dir?
[05-Jun-2008 16:05:28] <locohost> after a clean install
[05-Jun-2008 16:05:42] <twm1010> like what
[05-Jun-2008 16:06:05] <locohost> zeoctrl zopectl, zeoctrl.conf, zopectrl.conf, runzeo.....
[05-Jun-2008 16:13:52] <locohost> and the opt/zenoss/var folder just doesnt exist after the new install
[05-Jun-2008 16:24:10] <jb> hm
[05-Jun-2008 16:24:37] <punkcut> magnachef, did the extra memory make a big impact?
[05-Jun-2008 16:24:55] <jb> i have a device class in which new devices are not inheriting the parent perf templates
[05-Jun-2008 16:25:57] <locohost> we havent put the extra mem in yet
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:01] <nemo_> punkcut, try this
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:06] <jb> Device /Devices Basic template that only collects sysUpTime.
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:09] <jb> thats all its getting
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:11] <jb> anyone have any ideas?
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:36] <nemo_> grep -i memory /var/log/messages
[05-Jun-2008 16:26:49] <nemo_> jb,. template bindings
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:11] <jb> oh ok.
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:12] <jb> oops
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:17] <jb> i didnt t hink I had to bind it
[05-Jun-2008 16:28:33] <punkcut> nemo_, no hits related to zenoss. got some kernel noise but thats it. what am i looking for?
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:12] <nemo_> un 3 23:14:59 monitor05 kernel: [<ffffffff800bed05>] out_of_memory+0x8e/0x2f5
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:12] <nemo_> Jun 3 23:15:18 monitor05 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 23542 (python).
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:15] <nemo_> this kind of thing
[05-Jun-2008 16:29:39] <locohost> how much ram do you have?
[05-Jun-2008 16:30:09] <punkcut> nemo_, o wow you guys are way out of memory
[05-Jun-2008 16:30:23] <punkcut> locohost, i havent scaled up to your guys size yet. just like 10 devices
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:03] <nemo_> punkcut, i have over 30 gb of memory inc swap setup
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:08] <nemo_> now its stopped running out
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:14] <nemo_> 16gb of swap free
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:14] <nemo_> ;p
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:17] <punkcut> nemo_, how much of that is swap?
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:25] <nemo_> 8 gb real memoy
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:28] <nemo_> rest swap
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:37] <punkcut> nemo_, swap is slippery slope...
[05-Jun-2008 16:31:43] <punkcut> nemo_, especially with databases.
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:03] <punkcut> you have 8GB setup? how much is zope taking up?
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:24] <nemo_> zope isnt figuring
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:33] <nemo_> its all the python scripts that fire off
[05-Jun-2008 16:32:39] <nemo_> winperf stuff seems a killer
[05-Jun-2008 16:33:44] <punkcut> yes magna was saying the modeling is a beast.
[05-Jun-2008 16:36:36] <locohost> anythougts, i cant get zeoctl to stay started
[05-Jun-2008 16:36:38] <locohost> http://pastebin.com/m12a45194
[05-Jun-2008 16:36:45] <locohost> here is what i get in the log
[05-Jun-2008 16:37:02] <locohost> "2008-06-05T12:34:50 CRITICAL root restarting too frequently; quit
[05-Jun-2008 16:37:02] <locohost> " more details at pastebin
[05-Jun-2008 16:38:31] <locohost> ive cleared out zec files..it doesnt fail when i start it, it just stops on its own right away
[05-Jun-2008 16:38:58] <jb> Mem: 8178952k total, 4173004k used, 4005948k free, 618180k buffers
[05-Jun-2008 16:38:58] <jb> Swap: 2031608k total, 0k used, 2031608k free, 2373304k cached
[05-Jun-2008 16:39:00] <jb> :/
[05-Jun-2008 16:39:08] <jb> 11:39:05 up 7 days, 20:08, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.33, 0.26
[05-Jun-2008 16:40:24] <nemo_> root , not zenoss ?
[05-Jun-2008 16:40:31] <nemo_> which user are u using ?
[05-Jun-2008 16:41:28] <locohost> ahh, i think i might have found the problem
[05-Jun-2008 16:48:35] <twm1010> nemo: maybe you need more collectors?
[05-Jun-2008 16:50:54] <punkcut> how can I grant the privilege of looking at the network map to a specific user?
[05-Jun-2008 16:51:51] <locohost> im sure you can manulaly change the perms of that function in the zope management interface
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:03] <punkcut> locohost, yah i just cant find where.
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:26] <punkcut> locohost, also, it looks like zenoss has the full range of logging granularity. Try upping it to debug. it seems like theres blanks in that pastebin
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:28] <nemo_> twm1010, yes for sure
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:30] <jb> hm.. whats the best way to modify the "summary" message of an event created by NTPMonitor or other zenpacks?
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:32] <nemo_> thats the next step
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:43] <magnachef> ping punkcut
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:44] <jb> Command timed out on device fc-dns01.corp.follett.com: $ZENHOME/libexec/check_ntp -H blah.com
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:49] <jb> i'd like to change that
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:50] <punkcut> magnachef, pong
[05-Jun-2008 16:52:51] <twm1010> Are you using the core version?
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:03] <nemo_> punkcut, re swap and db, seperate raid sets , seperate controllers
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:08] <nemo_> hence low load
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:15] <nemo_> zero IO wait
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:20] <punkcut> nemo_, nice.
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:39] <jb> twm: me?
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:42] <magnachef> punk: haven't added memory yet, but stopped zenmodeler and things were much better
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:48] <twm1010> that was @ nemo
[05-Jun-2008 16:53:51] <jb> ah
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:08] <nemo_> twm1010, enterprise
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:34] <twm1010> darn, was hoping to run into someone who had done it with core, i know enterprise is already geared for it
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:44] <nemo_> as zenoss . do vi `which zenoss`
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:50] <nemo_> and comment the services you dont need
[05-Jun-2008 16:54:55] <nemo_> makes it much more stable
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:00] <nemo_> enable them one by one ;p
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:18] <nemo_> core / enterprise almost same
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:26] <nemo_> enterprise just has support inc
[05-Jun-2008 16:55:37] <nemo_> and some extra ( silly ?) zenpacks
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:10] <twm1010> I wish my Zenpacks would work >:O
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:35] <jb> which ones?
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:51] <twm1010> any of the core ones, the upgrade to 2.2 broke them all
[05-Jun-2008 16:56:56] <jb> reinstall the new eggs?
[05-Jun-2008 16:57:11] <twm1010> no go, i've got a 4 or 5 page post on the forum about it
[05-Jun-2008 16:58:18] <twm1010> ahh the appliance doesn't have the "which" command
[05-Jun-2008 16:59:10] <jb> its just a shortcut to finding "zenoss" for you
[05-Jun-2008 16:59:59] <gbkyle> hey guys, i got a pretty basic question.. I just loaded a VM of 2.2.0. I have set up all the networks and am looking to do an autodiscovery of all my devices. The majority of servers/desks are windows, so I would be using zenwin correct?
[05-Jun-2008 17:00:53] <rdeloney> hi
[05-Jun-2008 17:04:34] <gbkyle> I am just wondering how I can throw in like a username/pw into zenwin.. and have it autodiscover all the windows machines.
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:26] <punkcut> gbkyle, im pretty sure you can just discover all your devices through the web interface and then have zenoss model them. it will figure out what to do.
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:46] <punkcut> gbkyle, enable snmp and go through there.
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:49] <gbkyle> hmm.. Ok, because i have noticed it discovered the IP addresses but hasnt been able to successfully identify any
[05-Jun-2008 17:05:53] <nemo_> gbkyle is right
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:03] <nemo_> to do wmi, you need an account setup
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:16] <nemo_> depends how much win info you need a iguess
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:22] <gbkyle> As much as possible? lol
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:31] <nemo_> so do it all
[05-Jun-2008 17:06:50] <gbkyle> Would I have to edit the zenwin.cfg to enter in my user/pw?
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:02] <nemo_> read the manual dude
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:22] <gbkyle> eh, I wanna say I did.
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:25] <gbkyle> guess not hard enough
[05-Jun-2008 17:07:31] <nemo_> lol
[05-Jun-2008 17:20:56] <twm1010> crikey! hyperic is expensive
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:02] <magnachef> how much?
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:21] <twm1010> $35K to cover what I'm currently doing with Zenoss for $0
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:33] <magnachef> heh, nice
[05-Jun-2008 17:23:40] <magnachef> I hear they have real nice out of the box reporting
[05-Jun-2008 17:24:47] <twm1010> I'm sure they do
[05-Jun-2008 17:26:03] <twm1010> solarwinds was less than half that
[05-Jun-2008 17:29:23] <twm1010> still there jb?
[05-Jun-2008 17:30:24] <punkcut> ok I give up. How do I grant permissions to a non-admin user to use the network map?
[05-Jun-2008 17:30:45] <twm1010> Not sure punk, never really had to do that
[05-Jun-2008 17:32:39] <magnachef> heh, you need to give them Manager
[05-Jun-2008 17:32:56] <magnachef> it's either you get minimal to no privelges, or you get full admin priveleges
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:20] <punkcut> yah i just found that out. The granular permissions are only part of enterprise.
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:25] <punkcut> complete bummer.
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:35] <twm1010> doh!
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:42] <punkcut> thats a massive negative for the eval.
[05-Jun-2008 17:34:50] <magnachef> yeah, I have everyone with full permissions, which scares the crap out of me
[05-Jun-2008 17:35:42] <twm1010> Wait wait... they don't need Admin permissions to use the system
[05-Jun-2008 17:36:03] <magnachef> one sec though, because there is a zope that will allow permissions
[05-Jun-2008 17:36:14] <magnachef> well, if they want to be able to acknowlege events
[05-Jun-2008 17:38:21] <ghettodev> can anyone point me to a link that explains how to remove the zenwin template fromt the servers windows class?
[05-Jun-2008 17:38:30] <magnachef> http://localhost:8080/zport/manage_access
[05-Jun-2008 17:39:06] <magnachef> apparently there's a way to manage permissions via Zope, but I haven't had much success
[05-Jun-2008 17:39:44] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=235
[05-Jun-2008 17:40:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Admin levels... (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Jun-2008 17:48:01] <ccesario> somebody have ibm xseries Mibs ?
[05-Jun-2008 17:51:46] <twm1010> ghettodev: go to /Devices/Server/Windows
[05-Jun-2008 17:51:49] <twm1010> go to templates
[05-Jun-2008 17:51:58] <twm1010> hit the drop down, select bind template
[05-Jun-2008 17:52:09] <twm1010> hold down CTRL and unselect the template that is highlighted
[05-Jun-2008 17:54:52] <ghettodev> twm1010, awesome, thanks man
[05-Jun-2008 17:56:16] <twm1010> remember you don't necessarily have to bind to templates in the device class you're currently in, but it makes sense to keep store specifics ones in certain areas
[05-Jun-2008 17:56:28] <magnachef> ccesario: what's the MIB file name?
[05-Jun-2008 17:57:47] <ccesario> magnachef, MIB to IBM servers ....
[05-Jun-2008 17:58:28] <twm1010> You would need to have the IBM director mibs to hit data provided by the director/mgmtcard, etc.
[05-Jun-2008 17:58:54] <ccesario> hmmmmmmmm
[05-Jun-2008 18:00:53] <ccesario> twm1010, you have any experiency abou this ?
[05-Jun-2008 18:01:24] <twm1010> It's something I've been meaning to straighten out, correlation between in-band and out of band data from servers and management cards
[05-Jun-2008 18:01:53] <twm1010> the management card allows the director agent to poll data about the hardware and provide to the O/S's SNMP module
[05-Jun-2008 18:02:03] <twm1010> but you should be able to poll the management card itself
[05-Jun-2008 18:04:08] <twm1010> I would assume the goal of the Dell and HP zenpacks, is to poll the management services on servers for more info
[05-Jun-2008 18:04:17] <twm1010> there isn't an IBM one to hit the director agents
[05-Jun-2008 18:05:07] <twm1010> my problem was keeping things organized
[05-Jun-2008 18:05:34] <twm1010> for instance, if i added a management card in Zenoss... i would want traps for that card to show up under the parent server device, not the mgmt card
[05-Jun-2008 18:05:58] <twm1010> my solution was to leave the mgmt card out of Zenoss, and add the IP of the mgmt card manually as an interface on the parent server
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:25] <ccesario> hmmmm yes yes
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:30] <magnachef> you could just name the card with the name of the device or IP, along with that it's the management card
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:33] <magnachef> that's what we do
[05-Jun-2008 18:06:54] <twm1010> well like, typically we have a server called NW01
[05-Jun-2008 18:07:00] <magnachef> for the blade center management and switch cards
[05-Jun-2008 18:07:01] <twm1010> it's mgmt card's DNS entry will be m-NW01
[05-Jun-2008 18:07:25] <ccesario> hmmm
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:20] <ccesario> any idea about this
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:23] <ccesario> 2008-06-05 15:20:34 INFO zen.DeviceLoader Ip 192.168.15.1 exists on 192.168.15.1
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:35] <twm1010> exactly, thats the problem I had
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:47] <ccesario> when I try add this device I receive this message and the process dont complet
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:52] <ccesario> heheehe
[05-Jun-2008 18:12:53] <ccesario>
[05-Jun-2008 18:13:13] <twm1010> when the mgmt card was added as a device i couldn't add it's IP to it's server to keep the events associated
[05-Jun-2008 18:13:33] <ccesario> I get some error in this zenoss version
[05-Jun-2008 18:15:53] <ccesario> In Main View/ Device List
[05-Jun-2008 18:16:05] <ccesario> when I try delete any device
[05-Jun-2008 18:16:12] <ccesario> I dont get
[05-Jun-2008 18:16:15] <ccesario> error
[05-Jun-2008 18:29:51] <ccesario> twm1010, what version that you are using ?
[05-Jun-2008 18:30:35] <ccesario> I'm using Version 2.2.70
[05-Jun-2008 18:31:29] <twm1010> 2.2.0
[05-Jun-2008 18:33:29] <jb> argh
[05-Jun-2008 18:33:37] <jb> changing the severity of NTPMonitor/other zen pack datasources does nothing
[05-Jun-2008 18:33:42] <jb> they are all still coming in as "warning"
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:05] <twm1010> refresh the event schema?
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:21] <twm1010> why wouldn't you make this change @ the event class level too?
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:31] <jb> hm
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:50] <jb> well.. when the zenpack generates an event
[05-Jun-2008 18:34:55] <jb> actually sec
[05-Jun-2008 18:35:27] <jb> i guess i can change it there
[05-Jun-2008 18:35:43] <punkcut> ugh the ntp monitor from zenoss is completely frakking broken
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:08] <twm1010> i would think the NTP monitor just uses a nagios plugin?
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:22] <punkcut> the command string is wrong for the check_ntp function
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:28] <punkcut> or the check_ntp command is broken
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:33] <punkcut> thats a massive gap in QA
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:45] <twm1010> i bet you the symbolic link is gone
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:51] <punkcut> for libexec?
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:55] <twm1010> there should be a symbolic link in $ZENHOME to libexec
[05-Jun-2008 18:36:59] <punkcut> I recreated it.
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:01] <punkcut> check_ntp: Unknown argument - (null)
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:03] <twm1010> hrmmm...
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:05] <punkcut> its passing a -p for port.
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:09] <punkcut> which shows up in -h for check_ntp
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:15] <twm1010> hrmm
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:18] <punkcut> however if you try to use it it returns syntax error.
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:21] <twm1010> what ver. zenoss?
[05-Jun-2008 18:37:24] <twm1010> and what ver. of zenpack?
[05-Jun-2008 18:38:15] <punkcut> 2.2/1.00
[05-Jun-2008 18:38:20] <punkcut> it says the ntp monitor depends on 2.2
[05-Jun-2008 18:43:50] <jb> nah you can fix it
[05-Jun-2008 18:43:54] <jb> its a check_ntp issue
[05-Jun-2008 18:44:02] <jb> theres a fixed zenpack on the forums
[05-Jun-2008 18:45:22] <punkcut> jb, can you link me?
[05-Jun-2008 18:46:55] <punkcut> does anyone know how to change the username and passwords zenoss uses to connect to mysql?
[05-Jun-2008 18:47:21] <twm1010> you mean for the SQL monitor, or for its own internal MySQL database used for events?
[05-Jun-2008 18:47:42] <punkcut> the 2nd one
[05-Jun-2008 18:47:49] <twm1010> sure, its in settings
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:01] <twm1010> err sorry, event manager
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:15] <twm1010> left side, bottom link
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:22] <punkcut> ah i see it.
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:24] <jb> sorry
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:24] <punkcut> thanks twm1010
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:24] <jb> busy
[05-Jun-2008 18:48:25] <jb> sec
[05-Jun-2008 18:49:42] <jb> http://jb.giraudeau.info/fileadmin/user_upload/zenoss/NTP_monitor_no_port_option/ZenPacks.zenoss.NtpMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg
[05-Jun-2008 18:49:46] <jb> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6100&highlight=ntp
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:12] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - check_ntp: Unknown argument (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:24] <locohost> anyone have any trouble getting the zenoss-deps packages running under centos 4.6?
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:34] <locohost> it seems to work fine with the mysql packages in the centos repo
[05-Jun-2008 18:50:45] <locohost> you just need to ignore the fact that it tells you mysql isnt installed
[05-Jun-2008 18:52:04] <locohost> also, anyone know if there is a difference betwheen mysql-server 5.0.22 and the one mysql-server that zenoss ships with?
[05-Jun-2008 18:56:55] <punkcut> jb, that has a syntax error in it.
[05-Jun-2008 18:57:15] <punkcut> jb, both the egg in the forum post and the egg you linked to have syntax errors
[05-Jun-2008 18:59:08] <punkcut> jb, http://pastebin.ca/1039726
[05-Jun-2008 18:59:16] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1039726 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Jun-2008 19:05:12] <cbleach1> Is there a way to make zenoss handle VRRP correctly when building the network topology?
[05-Jun-2008 19:19:23] <locohost> zenbackup seems to run pretty quick. does people usually do it on the fly, or is it something to save for a change window or slower time?
[05-Jun-2008 19:19:31] <locohost> s/does/do/
[05-Jun-2008 19:37:40] <jb> punkcut: mine works perfectly..
[05-Jun-2008 19:37:58] <monrad> mine does not
[05-Jun-2008 19:38:11] <monrad> when zenbackup takes longer than the polling window
[05-Jun-2008 19:42:54] <locohost> how long does yours take?
[05-Jun-2008 19:45:53] <monrad> we had problems with tar giving errors about file that changed during its operation
[05-Jun-2008 19:46:03] <locohost> hmm
[05-Jun-2008 19:46:06] <monrad> but we have +1400 devices
[05-Jun-2008 19:46:15] <locohost> so, what did you do? stop zenoss, then run the backup?
[05-Jun-2008 19:47:00] <monrad> our sysadm made som changes so perf backup is done for itself
[05-Jun-2008 19:47:17] <monrad> and looks at the exit codes tar gives
[05-Jun-2008 19:47:29] <monrad> but we have not tested it yet
[05-Jun-2008 19:48:06] <monrad> but i take a full backup with zenperfsnmp shut down before every upgrade
[05-Jun-2008 19:50:51] <locohost> well, im trying to move it to its new home. hmm, can the zenbackup be restored into a newer version?
[05-Jun-2008 19:56:42] <monrad> i never tried that
[05-Jun-2008 19:57:14] <locohost> i guess ill let you know saturday at 230 am then
[05-Jun-2008 19:59:32] <mib_698587> I am not quite understanding how to send Warning to my Email address, the documentation is very generic in that topic, Does anyone a document of found a document that explains it well?
[05-Jun-2008 20:01:18] <punkcut> jb, i think its because i have installed through zenoss-stack rpm
[05-Jun-2008 20:13:20] <woodland_critter> hi all
[05-Jun-2008 20:13:56] <punkcut> can anyone tell me how i force model a group of devices?
[05-Jun-2008 20:15:18] <woodland_critter> <-n00b... How can I determine my zope username and password.. I'm trying to get zenwin setup on some windows boxes w/ no luck...
[05-Jun-2008 20:16:35] <punkcut> woodland_critter, look in your zProperties
[05-Jun-2008 20:16:56] <punkcut> browse to /device/servers/windows ( or wherever the top level of your windows group is) and click on zProperties
[05-Jun-2008 20:18:40] <woodland_critter> Thanks
[05-Jun-2008 20:22:05] <woodland_critter> I take it, the zCommand/Username/Password is what needs to be added to the .conf files on the windoze box?
[05-Jun-2008 20:22:58] <twm1010> what .conf files?
[05-Jun-2008 20:23:26] <twm1010> those are for linux/unix access
[05-Jun-2008 20:23:42] <woodland_critter> zeneventlog.cfg, zenwin.cfg, zenwinmodeler.cfg
[05-Jun-2008 20:23:45] <twm1010> there is a zWinUser and zWinPassword property where you set the credentials it uses to hit WMI on the Windows box
[05-Jun-2008 20:24:34] <twm1010> You don't need to setup zenwin anymore w/Zenoss 2.0+
[05-Jun-2008 20:25:33] <woodland_critter> hmm, i just did a 2.2 install and all the SNMP is looking good but for every server I am getting event:ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[05-Jun-2008 20:26:24] <twm1010> You need to navigate to /Devices/Servers/Windows and hit the zProperties tab
[05-Jun-2008 20:26:34] <woodland_critter> k, there
[05-Jun-2008 20:26:40] <twm1010> find the zWinUser and zWinPassword and put in an account that has privileges to access those boxes
[05-Jun-2008 20:27:06] <twm1010> there are some forum threads on how and why not to use a domain admin account for this, but for testing purposes you coudl use that
[05-Jun-2008 20:28:39] <woodland_critter> Under daemons, do I need to add anything to the zenwin config?
[05-Jun-2008 20:30:39] <twm1010> you don't need zenwin period
[05-Jun-2008 20:30:50] <twm1010> or you shouldn't need to mess with it, i should say
[05-Jun-2008 20:31:15] <twm1010> i gotta jet... good luck!
[05-Jun-2008 20:31:16] <woodland_critter> awsome, you're a hero. I'm letting the server reboot and I'll check it
[05-Jun-2008 20:31:25] <woodland_critter> THANKS!
[05-Jun-2008 20:38:45] <punkcut> ok wtf. all my perf graphs have suddenly disappeared.
[05-Jun-2008 20:39:21] <locohost> zenoss-2.2.0-0?
[05-Jun-2008 20:40:11] <locohost> I ask, because i was going to upgrade to 2.2.0 and magna suggested not to, because some people complained about stuff disappearing
[05-Jun-2008 20:43:25] <woodland_critter> my money was disappearing.. turns out it was just my gf... replaced the unit... all is well now
[05-Jun-2008 20:45:01] <locohost> lol
[05-Jun-2008 20:56:41] <jb> locohost: i do not reccomend upgrading to 2.2.0
[05-Jun-2008 20:56:44] <jb> ESPECIALLY if its production
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:09] <locohost> well,i was going to try exporting a dump, installing the new version on a greenfielded server, then importing the dump
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:26] <locohost> but, i deceided against it.
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <locohost> im might just stop with the exporting all together, and focus on the importing
[05-Jun-2008 20:59:43] <jb> ok.. are you guys pulling Software stats from any linux boxes?
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:19] <locohost> yeah...almost all linux boxes
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:26] <locohost> a few solaris, 1 or 2 windows boxes
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:42] <jb> did you have to do anything special to get it to work?
[05-Jun-2008 21:00:45] <jb> none of mine are populatign
[05-Jun-2008 21:01:44] <locohost> i havent done that yet, i was planning on it...but i just ganna stick with zenoss-2.1.3-0
[05-Jun-2008 21:02:36] <locohost> was that your question, ? im not sure what you mean. I have to do some special things to get it to work, because i made my own cmdb integration thingie, and need to import all the python scripts
[05-Jun-2008 21:07:48] <jb> im talking about the "Software" tab
[05-Jun-2008 21:08:00] <jb> none of my linux machines are working..
[05-Jun-2008 21:08:04] <jb> (populating software)
[05-Jun-2008 21:31:35] <locohost> oh yeah, magnachef got that working on ours, not sure what he did
[05-Jun-2008 21:31:48] <locohost> but, if you look at it, it looks like what you would see out of an rpm -qa
[05-Jun-2008 21:32:14] <locohost> heh, i did the hardware tab
[05-Jun-2008 21:36:32] <locohost> snmpwalk localhost -v 1 -On -c string .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.6.3.1.2 might help you
[05-Jun-2008 21:36:48] <locohost> i think thats the oid were it gets populated from
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:00] <locohost> see if you can walk the hosts, and get the info that way
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:20] <locohost> if net-snmp isnt giving that info back, then your problem might not even be on the zenoss side
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:34] <locohost> if that gives you the package names, , it must be somewhere on the zenoss side
[05-Jun-2008 21:37:39] <locohost> hope that helps.
[05-Jun-2008 21:41:51] <locohost> geeze its almost 40 minutes after beer O'clock
[05-Jun-2008 21:41:56] * locohost leaves
[05-Jun-2008 21:46:48] <punkcut> jb you there
[05-Jun-2008 21:46:57] <punkcut> jb, your software tab not populating?
[05-Jun-2008 21:55:36] <punkcut> jb, make sure the HRSWInstalled field is pulled for the section. Goto the toplevel of your linux servers ( Mines /devices/servers/linux ) and then goto the little drop down in the top left, goto More -> Collector Plugins -> Add fields (its sort of hard to see), and then make sure your HRSWInstalled section is dragged to the left.
[05-Jun-2008 21:57:14] <punkcut> jb, to make sure SNMP is giving the list to begin with do 'snmpwalk -v $version -c $community_string $ip_to_walk | grep hrSWInstalledName'
[05-Jun-2008 23:27:33] <ghettodev> punkcut: ty, i just got software map working too.
[05-Jun-2008 23:30:25] <punkcut> ghettodev, np
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[06-Jun-2008 06:51:40] <tessier> I need to monitor a bunch of websites. So I am reading: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToNagiosCreateTemplate and it talks about deciding where to put zenoss in the device tree. It uses www.zenoss.com as an example and says this is assuming I have a device called www.zenoss.com
[06-Jun-2008 06:51:54] <adytum-bot> Title: HowToNagiosCreateTemplate - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-Jun-2008 06:51:59] <tessier> Do I really need to create a device for every website I am running? What if I have a machine with a lot of virtual hosts on it?
[06-Jun-2008 07:53:28] <tessier> hmm...that doc is quite old. This one is much better: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor/
[06-Jun-2008 07:53:37] <tessier> And now I have everything working with page size and response time graphs and everything. Sweet.
[06-Jun-2008 07:53:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jun-2008 08:14:09] <tessier> crap
[06-Jun-2008 08:14:23] <tessier> All of these websites are on the same virtual host so they have the same IP so it is complaining.
[06-Jun-2008 08:14:38] <tessier> And that document addresses this problem but is very unclear on what the solution is.
[06-Jun-2008 10:22:32] <tarjei_> has anyone created a setup for monitoring if a machine needs a system update (i.e. apt-get upgrade or you upgrade? )
[06-Jun-2008 10:31:23] <nemo_> jah wel
[06-Jun-2008 10:31:28] <nemo_> watjes
[06-Jun-2008 10:37:19] <nemo_> oh wrong chan sorry
[06-Jun-2008 10:43:17] <ccesario> morning all!
[06-Jun-2008 10:50:23] <nemo_> morning
[06-Jun-2008 12:30:40] <twm1010> morning
[06-Jun-2008 13:06:07] <ZenMibber_> anyone here that can help a new bie to Zenoss?
[06-Jun-2008 13:07:08] <twm1010> i might point you in the right direction
[06-Jun-2008 13:09:06] <ZenMibber_> thankyou
[06-Jun-2008 13:09:31] <ZenMibber_> So I got this six Nortel PBX devices on a class called Nortel
[06-Jun-2008 13:09:48] <ZenMibber_> All of them are IP addressable
[06-Jun-2008 13:10:08] <twm1010> alright
[06-Jun-2008 13:10:14] <ZenMibber_> I also have installed the manufacturers Mibs
[06-Jun-2008 13:10:19] <twm1010> alright
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:04] <ZenMibber_> and all of them of course respong well with SNMPWalk
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:17] <ZenMibber_> so connectivity is taken care of it..
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:25] <twm1010>
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:29] <ZenMibber_> 2 things I want to achieve
[06-Jun-2008 13:11:56] <ZenMibber_> Monitor the oids and also an Email is sent when a Warning is thrown..
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:07] <ZenMibber_> easy enough...don't you think?
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:27] <ZenMibber_> so this is where I came to a screeching halt
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:28] <ZenMibber_> ..
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:29] <twm1010> Well, what statistics specifically do you want to monitor, and do you have the OID's for them
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:39] <ZenMibber_> and wonder...hmm...whats next..
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:48] <twm1010> You use the OID's to make a performance template gather and trend statistics
[06-Jun-2008 13:12:56] <ZenMibber_> The Docs do not address a newbie in anyway
[06-Jun-2008 13:13:15] <ZenMibber_> so it is a hard climb to do
[06-Jun-2008 13:13:18] <twm1010> You would configure your PBX devices to send trap to Zenoss, which would in turn use the MIB to decode it, and classify it as a warning level event
[06-Jun-2008 13:13:36] <twm1010> OK... learn backwards then... go to /Devices/Servers/Linux go to the templates tab
[06-Jun-2008 13:14:01] <ZenMibber_> could you take to create the template..even if it does not work..at least I will learn the basic steps
[06-Jun-2008 13:14:10] <ZenMibber_> here I go
[06-Jun-2008 13:14:23] <twm1010> Well hold on here... you need to define first what you're wanting to track
[06-Jun-2008 13:15:07] <ZenMibber_> ok ..../Devices/Nortel..in my case
[06-Jun-2008 13:15:40] <ZenMibber_> I am there
[06-Jun-2008 13:16:25] <ZenMibber_> Devices are already sending traps and it is verified
[06-Jun-2008 13:16:54] <twm1010> ok, then your MIB loading should have done the work classify certain types of traps as events of certain severities
[06-Jun-2008 13:17:05] <twm1010> it sounds like what you're wanting to do now, is track the load on the devices?
[06-Jun-2008 13:17:40] <ZenMibber_> I want to track warnings and transform them into email messages
[06-Jun-2008 13:18:40] <ZenMibber_> so I am at the Templates tab..
[06-Jun-2008 13:18:53] <twm1010> well thats not what a performance template is ofr
[06-Jun-2008 13:18:54] <twm1010> for
[06-Jun-2008 13:19:17] <twm1010> performance templates are for tracking... well, performance, cpu load, memory, etc.
[06-Jun-2008 13:19:50] <ZenMibber_> I am at ..../Devices/Nortel
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:04] <ZenMibber_> That is also information valuable to me..
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:27] <twm1010> I'm willing to bet the standard host-resources template would fit you here...
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:46] <ZenMibber_> How do I apply it to the nortel devices
[06-Jun-2008 13:20:57] <twm1010> one sec, let me make sure where it's stored
[06-Jun-2008 13:22:21] <ZenMibber_> right now, I could see the interfaces an their routes only
[06-Jun-2008 13:22:40] <twm1010> right, because your device class has no performance templates bound
[06-Jun-2008 13:22:52] <ZenMibber_> ok..
[06-Jun-2008 13:23:21] <twm1010> I think you'll have to design one actually
[06-Jun-2008 13:23:47] <ZenMibber_> ok..
[06-Jun-2008 13:27:22] <ZenMibber_> ok....
[06-Jun-2008 13:28:17] <twm1010> i AM doing my job here at the same time ya know
[06-Jun-2008 13:28:50] <ZenMibber_> I didn't think you were in your shorts drinking Margaritas in KeyWest
[06-Jun-2008 13:29:30] <fgb> Hello Guys
[06-Jun-2008 13:29:42] <twm1010> OK... so basically a performance template is assigned to a device class, or right to a device itself
[06-Jun-2008 13:29:53] <twm1010> in thise case, you want one for the entire class
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:04] <ZenMibber_> ok
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:13] <twm1010> you have the admin guide for v2.2?
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:22] <ZenMibber_> yes
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:29] <twm1010> go to p109
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:55] <fgb> Can someone help me with monitoring linux process with zenoss
[06-Jun-2008 13:30:57] <fgb> ?
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:12] <fgb> I am confused with regex
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:13] <ZenMibber_> hold please..
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:19] <twm1010> how so fgb?
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:29] <fgb> fine twm1010
[06-Jun-2008 13:31:55] <twm1010> Are you unsure of what to put in that field?
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:02] <fgb> yeap..
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:17] <fgb> for example...the mysql processo
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:28] <twm1010> stands for "regular expression"
[06-Jun-2008 13:32:34] <twm1010> you put a string in there you want Zenoss to look for
[06-Jun-2008 13:34:37] <twm1010> put in something like ^mysqld
[06-Jun-2008 13:34:49] <twm1010> meaning processes that start with mysqld
[06-Jun-2008 13:35:10] <ZenMibber_> So I am at page 109..
[06-Jun-2008 13:35:23] <twm1010> ok, flip down to 110, you should see a screenshot of a template
[06-Jun-2008 13:35:45] <ZenMibber_> I see that..
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:10] <twm1010> OK. so you have datasources, thresholds, and graphs
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:23] <ZenMibber_> yes
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:24] <twm1010> datasources come first, you need to know what OID's you want to poll to get your performance data
[06-Jun-2008 13:36:46] <fgb> I tried this one...but after add the process to be monitored for a specific server after a while the process dissapear from the list
[06-Jun-2008 13:37:08] <ZenMibber_> let me find an OID..
[06-Jun-2008 13:38:04] <twm1010> ZenMibber_: here's what its going to boil down to here, ya need to read the whole chapter, slowly.
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:06] <twm1010> in fact... here's a good read if you don't understand SNMP really well, its slanted towards Mac OSX, but its a good explanation on the whole
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:06] <ZenMibber_> ok...I will
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:07] <twm1010> http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2007/12/a_primer_to_snmp_on_mac_os_x_1.html
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:21] <adytum-bot> Title: bynkii.com: A Primer to SNMP on Mac OS X 10.5 and Mac OS X 10.5 Server (at www.bynkii.com)
[06-Jun-2008 13:39:29] <ZenMibber_> I think I already got that..
[06-Jun-2008 13:40:47] <ZenMibber_> So I find an OID, as my datasource, setup a threshold, and then buils a graph from the datasource
[06-Jun-2008 13:42:04] <fgb_z> I think I was using someone else nick
[06-Jun-2008 13:42:46] <fgb_z> I need help on modelling process to be monitored
[06-Jun-2008 13:44:09] <fgb_z> Hello
[06-Jun-2008 13:45:54] <ZenMibber_> I wish I could help you body..but I am a newbie
[06-Jun-2008 13:53:11] <fgb_z> Hi
[06-Jun-2008 13:54:36] <fgb_z> I need help with monitoring process
[06-Jun-2008 13:56:09] <gbkyle> 3
[06-Jun-2008 13:56:09] <gbkyle> 3
[06-Jun-2008 13:56:16] <gbkyle> quit
[06-Jun-2008 13:57:12] <gbkyle> ewps
[06-Jun-2008 14:09:58] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3292
[06-Jun-2008 14:09:59] <jb> woot
[06-Jun-2008 14:10:07] <adytum-bot> Title: #3292 (document modeler plugins) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-Jun-2008 14:19:51] <fgb_z> Anyone in this room?
[06-Jun-2008 14:25:27] <locohost> nope
[06-Jun-2008 14:25:37] <locohost> just a few trolls
[06-Jun-2008 14:25:38] <locohost>
[06-Jun-2008 14:34:19] <fgb_z> Hi locohost
[06-Jun-2008 14:37:55] <gbkyle> I am using the VM 2.2.0, shouldnt snmpd start up with boot? cause it's not .. :\
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:38] <twm1010> no, it doesn't by default actually
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:38] <magnachef> chkconfig --list | grep snmp
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:42] <locohost> /sbin/chkconfig snmpd --list
[06-Jun-2008 14:38:55] <twm1010> i just figured that out earlier in the week
[06-Jun-2008 14:39:03] <gbkyle> Yea, all say off hah.
[06-Jun-2008 14:39:08] <locohost> if it says off for all run levels, then you can sudo /sbin/chkconfig snmpd on
[06-Jun-2008 14:39:44] <gbkyle> perfect, thanks.
[06-Jun-2008 14:40:11] <locohost> you can do the --list command again, and make sure it took, but there is no reason to think it wouldnt
[06-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <gbkyle> Yep, worked. thanks.
[06-Jun-2008 14:40:52] <gbkyle> Now, if i have the proper information in the zProp's for zWinuser/pw.. there is no reason why it wouldnt be able to pick up OS information right?
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:08] <twm1010> zWinUser/Pass is for pulling logs
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:12] <twm1010> the OS info comes from SNMP still
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:30] <gbkyle> So for the XP desktops i got.. they must all be running snmp too then huh
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:51] <locohost> yep, or net-snmp if your so inclined to install that on all of them
[06-Jun-2008 14:41:52] <twm1010> Indeed...
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:02] <gbkyle> Great.
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:02] <twm1010> There are ways to script installation, and configuration can be done through GPO
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:12] <locohost> i have a script to do it
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:13] <gbkyle> Yea, thats what i am prob going to do.
[06-Jun-2008 14:42:49] <fgb_z> Hello folks
[06-Jun-2008 14:43:29] <fgb_z> can someone help me with monitoring process?
[06-Jun-2008 14:45:38] <gbkyle> I am stupid. sorry
[06-Jun-2008 14:51:01] <locohost> ide give you the script but id ont have time to go through it and take out all the private info, if you just configure it on one, then export all the reg keys, that will do it
[06-Jun-2008 14:52:29] <twm1010> gbkyle: are these domain machines?
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:07] <gbkyle> well the domain machines i think i got covered..
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:16] <gbkyle> i am having a lot of trouble loggin into the WebUI right now for some reason
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:20] <gbkyle> i can SSH fine..
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:33] <gbkyle> but i cant get the page to load to check..
[06-Jun-2008 14:56:41] <gbkyle> I did an SNMPwalk on the domain machine, and it worked.
[06-Jun-2008 14:58:35] <locohost> i wonder if i can ack things like t his without causing a problem
[06-Jun-2008 14:58:46] <locohost> echo "update device set eventstate = 1 where device = 'server01';"|mysql -uroot events
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:22] <gbkyle> locohost: you talkin to me? haha
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:30] <locohost> nope, myself
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:42] <gbkyle> haha good.
[06-Jun-2008 14:59:45] <gbkyle> confusin me
[06-Jun-2008 15:00:25] <gbkyle> God damnit, i restart zenoss and still cant login
[06-Jun-2008 15:00:37] <gbkyle> cant get the login page
[06-Jun-2008 15:00:56] <locohost> does `sudo su - zenoss -c "zenoss status"`
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:00] <locohost> say everything is running?
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:15] <gbkyle> yessir
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:21] <locohost> what about wget localhost:8080 from the box
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:30] <locohost> you sure zenhub is running?
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:34] <gbkyle> connection refused.
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:39] <gbkyle> Daemon: zenhub program running; pid=3318
[06-Jun-2008 15:01:56] <locohost> sudo su - zenoss -c "zenoss status|grep not`
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:23] <locohost> well, if your sure its all running....
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:26] <gbkyle> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:33] <locohost> kk
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:37] <locohost> thats your problem
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:41] <locohost> i would probably stop it
[06-Jun-2008 15:02:54] <gbkyle> Stop.... which?
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:17] <locohost> 1 sec
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:23] <gbkyle> k, take your time
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:51] <locohost> i woudl stop zenoss, and delete all the zec/tmp/pid/lock files in /opt/zenoss/var/
[06-Jun-2008 15:03:55] <locohost> then try to start it again
[06-Jun-2008 15:04:05] <locohost> it might be smart to backup those files, incase im wrong
[06-Jun-2008 15:05:16] <jp10558> Does anyone know why a command in /opt/zenoss/libexe would get deleted from the zencommand schedule?
[06-Jun-2008 15:05:50] <twm1010> if its not in use maybe?
[06-Jun-2008 15:05:58] <jp10558> I've created it to report in the correct style as far as I can tell, and it's owned by zenoss. The command template is bound and set up for sh command ...
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:12] <jp10558> and when I restart ZenCommand, it runs once, and then I get this in my log:
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:16] <jp10558> 2008-06-06 11:02:35 INFO zen.zencommand: Deleting command LT104_XRX_3500 from /opt/zenoss/libexec/btoner
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:24] <jp10558> and it doesn't seem to update
[06-Jun-2008 15:06:38] <twm1010> Not sure, perhaps thats not the right way to implement it
[06-Jun-2008 15:07:05] <gbkyle> Alright, i'll let you know how it turns out
[06-Jun-2008 15:07:08] <jp10558> Hmmm, it seems to be much harder than I thought to implement a command datasource
[06-Jun-2008 15:27:37] <gbkyle> locohost: don't have a /opt/zenoss/var
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:02] <locohost> /usr/local/zenoss?
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:05] <locohost> where is your zenoss dir?
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:09] <gbkyle> home zenoss
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:18] <locohost> zenoss/var
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:21] <locohost> wherever that may be
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:22] <gbkyle> gotcha.
[06-Jun-2008 15:28:24] <gbkyle>
[06-Jun-2008 15:29:28] <gbkyle> see if this works..
[06-Jun-2008 15:30:32] <gbkyle> locohost : you know your zenoss.. haha
[06-Jun-2008 15:32:15] <locohost> glad that worked for you
[06-Jun-2008 15:37:46] <gbkyle> So how come when i do a snmp walk on a server, it shows the OS info for that particular server, but when i click status it doesnt save any of that info
[06-Jun-2008 15:40:42] <twm1010> snmpwalk is a utility
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:18] <twm1010> zenoss uses it to get that information, but initiating one doesn't store that info, just checks to see if SNMP is working
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:29] <gbkyle> ah ok.
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:34] <twm1010> you need to "remodel" the device, to get it to store the information
[06-Jun-2008 15:41:47] <twm1010> this assumes you have correctly put the device into the proper device class
[06-Jun-2008 15:42:08] <gbkyle> Yes, i moved them into Servers Windows.
[06-Jun-2008 15:42:38] <twm1010> ok, the navigate to the device, and issue a "remodel" from the manage drop down menu
[06-Jun-2008 15:44:30] <gbkyle> Ah perfect
[06-Jun-2008 15:44:42] <gbkyle> is there a way to do this for all servers, or do i have to do them individually
[06-Jun-2008 15:45:22] <locohost> it could be looped through the api, im not sure what the exact synatax to do that through the api is, but im sure you can find it in google
[06-Jun-2008 15:45:32] <gbkyle> alright.
[06-Jun-2008 15:46:12] <locohost> so you coudl do like for i in devicelist;do wget http://localhost:8080........deviceid=$i;done
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[06-Jun-2008 15:46:15] <locohost> or sosmethign to that effect
[06-Jun-2008 15:46:51] <locohost> adytuym-bot: thats not a real link
[06-Jun-2008 16:03:04] <gbkyle> is there like a zip of all cisco mibs avail
[06-Jun-2008 16:27:42] <locohost> heres all my cisco mibs
[06-Jun-2008 16:27:42] <locohost> http://darksideofthelun.com/mibz.zip
[06-Jun-2008 16:28:00] <locohost> im sure its not complete
[06-Jun-2008 16:52:02] <ccesario> hey
[06-Jun-2008 16:52:24] <ccesario> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates this is applyed in zenoss-2.2.0 ?
[06-Jun-2008 16:52:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jun-2008 17:12:09] <gbkyle> locohost: thanks
[06-Jun-2008 17:18:10] <tessier_> Hello all! I have a problem with paging. Zenoss seems to want to use snpp to send pages if you put anything in the pager field of the user. Any way to get "pages" sent by email to my phone which takes sms via email? And still have emails sent to my regular email account as well?
[06-Jun-2008 17:18:44] <tessier_> We are looking at having to set up duplicate users with real email address in the email field and phone email address in the field of the user-pager account which just seems like a silly kludge.
[06-Jun-2008 17:34:27] <jubuntu4me> I'm getting a zenwinperf error on a MSSQL server of no valid counters - anyone have a good suggestion for me? It's just the SQL portion - I can get WMI info on just about everything else on the box
[06-Jun-2008 17:37:33] <jubuntu4me> tessier: why not use a distro list with your email and email-2-text addresses as your contact?
[06-Jun-2008 17:51:27] <fgb_z> Hello all. Can anyone help me with process monitoring?
[06-Jun-2008 18:23:30] <jb> anyone monitoring any cisco pix/asa firewalls?
[06-Jun-2008 18:29:14] <magnachef> yep...not well though
[06-Jun-2008 18:33:26] <jb> well if we could write custom modelers that actually worked
[06-Jun-2008 18:33:29] <jb> we could get tons of info
[06-Jun-2008 18:34:20] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 18:34:30] <jb> all im getting now is interface stats
[06-Jun-2008 18:34:32] <jb> what about you?
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> Tag #
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb>
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> Serial #
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb>
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> HW Make
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <jb> Unknown
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:06] <jb> HW Model
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:08] <jb> .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.1.670
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:10] <jb> OS Make
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:12] <jb> Unknown
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:14] <jb> OS Version
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:16] <jb> Cisco Security
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:18] <jb> Rack Slot
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:20] <jb> 0
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:21] <magnachef> yeah, same
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:33] <magnachef> haven't had time to create the custom template for them
[06-Jun-2008 18:35:52] <magnachef> right now it's just using the default Network class template
[06-Jun-2008 18:36:10] <jb> im gonna try to whip up some graphs now
[06-Jun-2008 18:36:13] <jb> for cpu/connections
[06-Jun-2008 18:37:09] <magnachef> cool
[06-Jun-2008 18:37:25] <magnachef> it'd be nice to get that as a zenpack
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:09] <jb> ok
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:19] <jb> i can do that
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:25] <jb> but i really want to get the modeler stuff working
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:29] <magnachef> I would much appreciate that
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:40] <tessier_> jubuntu4me: I'm not quite sure what you mean. We have the capability to set up distro lists of course.
[06-Jun-2008 18:38:41] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 18:56:11] <magnachef> does anyone know why I may be seeing "snmp agent down" errors from previously deleted devices?
[06-Jun-2008 18:59:14] <jb> argh i cant even get these mibs to load
[06-Jun-2008 19:05:16] <magnachef> dependancies?
[06-Jun-2008 19:11:17] <ZenMibber_> do you guys put all of your MIBS in one directory to load them even including the ones that are installed by default?
[06-Jun-2008 19:11:37] <magnachef> I throw them all in the same directory, yeah
[06-Jun-2008 19:11:40] <ZenMibber_> I am getting mibs not loaded when kept in separate directories
[06-Jun-2008 19:12:29] <ZenMibber_> do you dump them into the IETF directory?
[06-Jun-2008 19:13:12] <magnachef> I put them in /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/
[06-Jun-2008 19:13:17] <magnachef> and I have no problems
[06-Jun-2008 19:14:41] <ZenMibber_> thanks...I will try that now..
[06-Jun-2008 19:18:13] <magnachef> where can I see a list of devices that are in the list to be monitored
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:36] <jb> GRR
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:41] <jb> well
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:45] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site/cisco/core$ zenmib run SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:45] <jb> INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:51] <jb> this one is giving me problems
[06-Jun-2008 19:20:55] <jb> but SNMPv2-SMI has already been loaded
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:19] <magnachef> try loading it again on the same line with the other mib
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:32] <jb> zenmib run blah blah2
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:33] <jb> like that?
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:46] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 19:21:50] <jb> k sec
[06-Jun-2008 19:22:45] <jubuntu4me> Tessier: What I was thinking was (based on an Exchange enviroment but it could be done using anything) you create a contact on the mailserver for your email-to-text addy (say 5555555555@cingularme.com) and then add the contact and your primary account to a new distribution list. Then in zenoss make the distro list your email address so when an alert comes in it goes to the list, which sends it to both your cell and you
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:35] <jb> this is such bullshit..
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:36] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site$ zenmib run SNMPv2-SMI.my SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:36] <jb> INFO:zen.zenmib:Loaded mib SNMPv2-SMI
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:36] <jb> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site$ zenmib run -v10 SNMPv2-SMI.my SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:SNMPv2-SMI.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:running smidump -fpython "SNMPv2-SMI.my" 2>/dev/null
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> DEBUG:zen.Relations:obj /zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs/SNMPv2-SMI already exits on /zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:54] <jb> INFO:zen.zenmib:Loaded mib SNMPv2-SMI
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:55] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:57] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:running smidump -fpython -p "SNMPv2-SMI.my" "SNMPv2-TC.my" 2>/dev/null
[06-Jun-2008 19:27:59] <jb> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 19:29:42] <magnachef> maybe try renaming it to .mib? dunno, that's a shot in the dark
[06-Jun-2008 19:31:19] <cbleach> take the my extension off the mib and try again
[06-Jun-2008 19:31:34] <cbleach> the .my extension
[06-Jun-2008 19:32:01] <magnachef> yeah
[06-Jun-2008 19:32:25] <magnachef> otherwise there's something wrong with your mib
[06-Jun-2008 19:33:16] <cbleach> I have had this problem before, and I think I remember it having something to do with file extensions
[06-Jun-2008 19:35:49] <jb> hm ok sec
[06-Jun-2008 19:36:04] <jb> theres a thread in the forums about this exact issue, and they didn't rename
[06-Jun-2008 19:45:05] <ccesario> hello!
[06-Jun-2008 19:46:41] <ccesario> somebody!!?
[06-Jun-2008 19:47:05] <jb> argh
[06-Jun-2008 19:47:14] <magnachef> howdy
[06-Jun-2008 19:49:27] <magnachef> still no luck jb?
[06-Jun-2008 19:52:36] <jb> sec
[06-Jun-2008 19:53:55] <jb> nope
[06-Jun-2008 20:03:13] <jb> ok wow
[06-Jun-2008 20:04:13] * jb documents this ASAP
[06-Jun-2008 20:06:39] <cbleach> find the solution jb?
[06-Jun-2008 20:07:53] <jb> somewhat
[06-Jun-2008 20:07:57] <jb> got past one hurdle
[06-Jun-2008 20:09:21] <jb> actually no, I didn't.
[06-Jun-2008 20:10:33] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/site/cisco/v2$ smidump -fpython -p SNMPv2-TC.my
[06-Jun-2008 20:10:33] <jb> Segmentation fault
[06-Jun-2008 20:10:36] <jb> sweet
[06-Jun-2008 20:12:34] <magnachef> odd
[06-Jun-2008 20:12:48] <ccesario> hey .... http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates this is applyed in zenoss-2.2.0 ?
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:01] <ccesario> I dont found the menus O_o
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:42] <jb> thats outdated
[06-Jun-2008 20:13:44] <jb> no perfconf tab
[06-Jun-2008 20:14:02] <ccesario> how to I make this in 2.2 ?
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[07-Jun-2008 16:30:19] <ccesario_> hello
[07-Jun-2008 16:40:55] <ccesario_> somebdy have idea of howto usage nagios plugin in zenoss-2.2.o ? I read this but dont get success :/ http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
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[07-Jun-2008 16:58:35] <ccesario> any idea?
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[08-Jun-2008 00:20:41] <Ekras> Hey... Anyone around who can help me out with a little issue i'm havin getting zenoss running?
[08-Jun-2008 00:23:57] <Ekras> trying to use vmware to install on a win2k3 server.... when i try to connect to port 8080 after install it cant seem to find anything
[08-Jun-2008 00:24:27] <Ekras> (tried connecting both remotly and as localhost on the server)
[08-Jun-2008 00:30:46] <Ekras> ello?
[08-Jun-2008 01:55:13] <Ekras> ok wow...what a helpful community
[08-Jun-2008 02:03:24] <troy42> no saturday evening getting started support with your irc service contract?
[08-Jun-2008 02:03:40] <troy42> i'd demand freenode issue a refund
[08-Jun-2008 02:03:45] <troy42>
[08-Jun-2008 02:04:26] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:01] <troy42> is it actually running?
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:33] <Ekras> yeah... vmplayer is up and runnign
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:42] <Ekras> everything looked right durring its "boot"
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:42] <troy42> and if so, can you telnet to port 8080, issue a couple newlines, and get a response
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:52] <Ekras> can't connect to port 8080
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:54] <Ekras> which is the issue
[08-Jun-2008 02:05:56] <Ekras> port is open
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:08] <troy42> any chance you're running into the windows firewall?
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:13] <Ekras> nope
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:20] <Ekras> had that for lunch earlier
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:30] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:06:49] <troy42> can you grab lsof or a win32 equiv and see whether it's bound to the port?
[08-Jun-2008 02:07:05] <troy42> one of the msft sysinternals tools, say
[08-Jun-2008 02:07:46] <troy42> i don't know the current suite well enough to give a specific one, but i think one will trace all sys calls, like strace on unix
[08-Jun-2008 02:07:55] <troy42> and i think there's another that shows open file handles like lsof
[08-Jun-2008 02:08:12] <Ekras> let me see what I can do....
[08-Jun-2008 02:09:03] <troy42> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb545027.aspx might help too
[08-Jun-2008 02:09:21] <troy42> check out TCPView
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:02] <troy42> depending on what that says (namely, if it is bound), you may want to grab/install a lightweight web server or something (any tcp socket server) and see whether you can connect to it, or trace the syscalls for zenoss while you try to connect
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:26] <troy42> if it's not bound, config issue somewhere
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:53] <Ekras> did a netstat -an
[08-Jun-2008 02:11:58] <Ekras> and it says listening on the port
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:09] <troy42> that's a good sign
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:26] <troy42> might be worth grabbing ethereal and sniffing
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:38] <Ekras> grabbin tcp view... now
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:39] <troy42> are you hitting the localhost IP or the ethernet interface IP?
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:52] <Ekras> http://localhost:8080/
[08-Jun-2008 02:13:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[08-Jun-2008 02:14:20] <troy42> hm, yeah, i'd grab ethereal
[08-Jun-2008 02:14:40] <troy42> since it sounds like tcpview would just affirm netstat
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:05] <troy42> either than or an app-level trace to watch the os hand zope the socket request
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:16] <Ekras> etherreal?
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:26] <troy42> open source GUI TCP packet sniffer
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:54] <Ekras> ok will try that...
[08-Jun-2008 02:15:58] <Ekras> thanks for your help btw
[08-Jun-2008 02:16:09] <troy42> should at least see your SYN, and if you don't see a SYN ACK packet back from localhost, something's up at the OS level
[08-Jun-2008 02:16:10] <troy42> no prob
[08-Jun-2008 02:16:29] <troy42> you'll see 1 line per packet, and if you start capture then try to connect, it should show the connection attempt
[08-Jun-2008 02:17:05] <troy42> which might be your SYN (connection request) then just no response and a timeout, since it sounds like you're not getting an explicit error (port unreachable/connection refused, say)
[08-Jun-2008 02:17:30] * troy42 kicks ruby's roo module in the pants
[08-Jun-2008 02:17:46] <troy42> i'm not sure that any slower xls->csv code could be written
[08-Jun-2008 02:18:38] <Ekras> oh wait...i think i'm dislexic or something...port 8800 listening not 8080 -- different app
[08-Jun-2008 02:18:49] <Ekras> crao
[08-Jun-2008 02:18:52] <Ekras> err crap
[08-Jun-2008 02:19:53] <troy42> been there, done that myself
[08-Jun-2008 02:21:02] <Ekras> so back to square one...hmm
[08-Jun-2008 02:22:47] <troy42> if it's not listening, pretty much has to be a config issue
[08-Jun-2008 02:22:56] <troy42> or that it's not running at all
[08-Jun-2008 02:23:33] <Ekras> lemme make sure i'm doin this right
[08-Jun-2008 02:23:35] <troy42> something could be blocking it from listening, too, i suppose, but all i know of in that realm would be the windows firewall and AV stuff
[08-Jun-2008 02:23:49] <Ekras> installed VMWare Player
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:09] <Ekras> than opened the Zenoss file which launched the virtual machine
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:31] <Ekras> that in turn tells me the following
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:38] <Ekras> Welcome Zenoss, version
[08-Jun-2008 02:24:56] <Ekras> Appliance Agent is available at https://localhostL3004/rAA
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:13] <Ekras> Zenoss Management Console is available at http://localhost:8080
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:34] <Ekras> than lets me log in
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:37] <Ekras> as root
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:46] <Ekras> did I need to do anything beyond that?
[08-Jun-2008 02:25:50] <troy42> sounds pretty reasonable so far. i've only used the src and binary distributions though
[08-Jun-2008 02:26:07] <troy42> are you hitting it from within the same localhost VM?
[08-Jun-2008 02:26:18] <troy42> ie, that localhost URL will only work within the VM that just booted
[08-Jun-2008 02:26:36] <troy42> (might be a stupid question)
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:10] <Ekras> well no
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:11] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:12] <troy42> if you're hitting the localhost URL from a browser outside of the VM that just booted, you'd be hitting the host rather than the guest
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:19] <Ekras> your right
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:20] <Ekras> lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:30] <Ekras> ok...thats problem #1 lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:35] <troy42> virtualization adds at least one level of abstraction to everything =)
[08-Jun-2008 02:27:45] <troy42> your localhost is not my localhost!
[08-Jun-2008 02:28:55] <troy42> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-and-using-the-zenoss-virtual-appliance-and-vmware-player/
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing and Using the Zenoss Virtual Appliance and Vmware Player - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:33] <Ekras> yeah read that
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:34] <Ekras> 7. Open a new web browser (Zenoss runs most consistently using Mozilla Firefox) and enter the URL that appears in the login screen. When the login prompt appears, log in as:
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:34] <Ekras> User: admin
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:34] <Ekras> Password: zenoss
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:42] <Ekras> figured they meant on my host OS
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:42] <troy42> assuming it's bound to *:8080 (which i'm not sure it is - haven't used the appliance), you might be able to do 1.2.3.4:8080 from the vmware host
[08-Jun-2008 02:29:53] <troy42> where 1.2.3.4 is the ip of the guest that you just booted
[08-Jun-2008 02:30:28] <troy42> given that it's rAA, an appliance-oriented linux distro, it may be setup to listen on all interfaces
[08-Jun-2008 02:33:30] <Ekras> ok cool
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:03] <Ekras> tryin to figure out the ip of the guest OS now
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:14] <Ekras> ipconfig just gives me 127.0.0.1 lol
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:28] <Ekras> err ifconfig
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:34] <troy42> wonder whether it couldn't get an IP
[08-Jun-2008 02:34:55] <troy42> might try: ifconfig -a
[08-Jun-2008 02:35:19] <troy42> or if you know an IP it can grab, at least temporarily just hard set it with ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x
[08-Jun-2008 02:36:14] <troy42> that might actually be configurable in the rAA (OS) management URL
[08-Jun-2008 02:37:14] <troy42> https://localhost:3004/rAA , but i guess you'll still need to know the IP
[08-Jun-2008 02:37:53] <troy42> ifconfig might let you set it for long enough (until the next vm boot) to get to these URLs
[08-Jun-2008 02:39:23] <troy42> and there is probably another way (rAA command line tool, say) to set an IP explicitly
[08-Jun-2008 03:00:08] <Ekras> tried to push it 192.168.0.30 can't seem to find it there either
[08-Jun-2008 03:00:09] <Ekras> hmm
[08-Jun-2008 03:00:27] <Ekras> I feel so dumb today lol
[08-Jun-2008 03:11:29] <troy42> no worries. can you ping that ip?
[08-Jun-2008 03:11:56] <troy42> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.30 should give it that ip, and assuming your host os is on 192.168.0.0/24, it should be pingable
[08-Jun-2008 03:12:17] <Ekras> lol..just rebooted vmware
[08-Jun-2008 03:12:19] <Ekras> 1 sec
[08-Jun-2008 03:13:40] <Ekras> timed out
[08-Jun-2008 03:13:44] <troy42> reboot isn't a bad idea
is there dhcp on that network?[08-Jun-2008 03:14:22] <Ekras> not sure
[08-Jun-2008 03:14:45] <Ekras> should be... i didn't set it up...
[08-Jun-2008 03:14:59] <Ekras> prolly mistake #1 lol
[08-Jun-2008 03:17:04] <Ekras> 1 sec connecting here from the server
[08-Jun-2008 03:18:05] <Ekras2> ok
[08-Jun-2008 03:18:17] <Ekras2> now I can copy/paste
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:03] <troy42> nice
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:36] <Ekras2> grrrrr
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:39] <Ekras2> of course
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:41] <Ekras2> lol
[08-Jun-2008 03:19:50] <Ekras2> vmplayer has its own damned clipboard
[08-Jun-2008 03:23:34] <Ekras2> ok think i found the big problem
[08-Jun-2008 03:23:49] <Ekras2> eth0 isn't finding an ip durring boot
[08-Jun-2008 03:24:38] <troy42> yeah, that would do it
[08-Jun-2008 03:24:50] <troy42> wonder whether there's no dhcp server
[08-Jun-2008 03:25:40] <Ekras2> set it to use NAT instead of a bridge
[08-Jun-2008 03:25:50] <troy42> oh, gotcha
[08-Jun-2008 03:25:56] <Ekras2> seems to find an IP this time
[08-Jun-2008 03:26:07] <Ekras2> but we'll see once it boots up
[08-Jun-2008 03:26:35] <troy42> at least we found the problem
[08-Jun-2008 03:26:58] <Ekras2> Got it
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:05] <Ekras2> thanks a ton for your assistance man
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:23] <troy42> anytime
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:24] <Ekras2> that should get added to the guide to check
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:35] <troy42> yeah, i agree. when matt gets back i'll ping him about it
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:36] <Ekras2> cause it defaults to bridge
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:39] <Ekras2> cool
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:43] <Ekras2> thanks
[08-Jun-2008 03:27:44] <troy42> and feel free to stick around, there's usually someone here
[08-Jun-2008 03:28:00] <troy42> i'm not even an employee of the co, just a fan
[08-Jun-2008 03:28:05] <Ekras2> i'll leave my home machine connected... gonna uninstall mirc from this thing
[08-Jun-2008 03:28:18] <troy42> nice
[08-Jun-2008 03:39:46] <Ekras> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[08-Jun-2008 03:39:56] <Ekras> that ok?
[08-Jun-2008 03:40:40] <Ekras> error was from zenping
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[09-Jun-2008 11:54:00] <ccesario> morning!
[09-Jun-2008 12:22:27] <cy_`> hello
[09-Jun-2008 12:34:54] <ccesario> hey .... http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates this is applyed in zenoss-2.2.0 ? how to I make this in zenoss-2.2 ?
[09-Jun-2008 12:35:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 13:01:28] <ZenMibber_> I am trying to add a Datasource for a new template for a Nortel PBX..When adding the new datasorce I am asked for "id"....WHAT ARE THEY REFERING TO?
[09-Jun-2008 13:01:54] <ZenMibber_> sorry for the caps...
[09-Jun-2008 13:04:24] <jb> the ID is just the name of the datasource
[09-Jun-2008 13:04:26] <jb> you can name it anything..
[09-Jun-2008 13:07:45] <ZenMibber_> oh thanks
[09-Jun-2008 13:08:00] <ZenMibber_> let me try that
[09-Jun-2008 13:08:57] <ZenMibber_> How does one decided if the Datasource is SNMP based or Command?
[09-Jun-2008 13:10:22] <ZenMibber_> I an going to say SNMP is based on OIDS...
[09-Jun-2008 13:27:42] <shadeimi> hi at all
[09-Jun-2008 13:28:57] <shadeimi> what's the state about the OSProcess ticket?
[09-Jun-2008 13:44:39] <ccesario> hello
[09-Jun-2008 13:52:09] <jb> ZenMibber: if you are adding a datasource, you should know if its SNMP or command based..
[09-Jun-2008 13:52:27] <jb> SNMP uses an OID to pull the data from, COMMAND executes a command on the zenoss server to obtain information
[09-Jun-2008 14:10:17] <ZenMibber_> thanks a lot again..just thinking outloud..
[09-Jun-2008 14:10:32] <jb> np
[09-Jun-2008 14:15:07] <shadeimi> jb,
[09-Jun-2008 14:15:38] <shadeimi> i've this problem
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:04] <shadeimi> i've added an os process
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:12] <shadeimi> for a machine monitored by ssh
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:28] <cy_`> i'm trying to build zenoss on solaris.. but i get these kind of errors: http://pastebin.ca/1042923 .. anyone knows how to fix this?
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:37] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 1042923 (at pastebin.ca)
[09-Jun-2008 14:16:52] <shadeimi> but when i stop the process, the light remain green,
[09-Jun-2008 14:17:00] <shadeimi> also if i remodel the device
[09-Jun-2008 14:17:06] <shadeimi> there's a bug?
[09-Jun-2008 14:18:19] <shadeimi> there's anyone?
[09-Jun-2008 14:25:57] <shadeimi> hey'
[09-Jun-2008 14:25:58] <shadeimi> ?
[09-Jun-2008 14:27:12] <MrTux> cy_`: there is a problem with libart, do you use gnu make etc?
[09-Jun-2008 14:34:27] <shadeimi> there's anyone can help me with osprocess
[09-Jun-2008 14:34:28] <shadeimi> ?
[09-Jun-2008 14:43:54] <cy_`> MrTux: yes i do sir
[09-Jun-2008 14:44:16] <MrTux> cy_`: so try compiling it by hand and see what it does, just libart
[09-Jun-2008 14:45:16] <cy_`> haha
[09-Jun-2008 14:45:22] <cy_`> ok.. i *try*
[09-Jun-2008 14:49:11] <shadeimi> hy
[09-Jun-2008 14:49:13] <shadeimi> hi
[09-Jun-2008 14:49:56] <shadeimi> there is anyone can help me?
[09-Jun-2008 15:01:49] <ccesario> hello... somebody have any doc... of how to usage nagios plugin in zenoss-2.2 ?
[09-Jun-2008 15:11:36] <shadeimi> there is anyone can help me with osprocess using zenplugin.py??
[09-Jun-2008 16:15:27] <cy_`> MrTux: why dont zenoss provide solaris packages? it's quite hard to build it from src
[09-Jun-2008 16:15:40] <cy_`> or a up2date howto
[09-Jun-2008 16:42:26] <jp10558> Does anyone know how to reign in the process monitor so that it doesn't match everything that has "term" in it. Say we want to know that at least one notepad is running, but we don't want to be alerted if notepad - foo was closed as long as notepad * is still running...
[09-Jun-2008 17:12:58] <ccesario> hello!
[09-Jun-2008 17:25:57] <magnachef> jp10558: you should lock down the regexp by using ^ and $
[09-Jun-2008 17:26:16] <magnachef> that will match the start and end of a line, respectively
[09-Jun-2008 17:28:51] <ccesario> magnachef, do you have idea about execute nagios plugins in zenoss-2.2 ?
[09-Jun-2008 17:29:17] <magnachef> I don't...I don't use nagios plugins or 2.2
[09-Jun-2008 17:29:19] <magnachef> sorry
[09-Jun-2008 17:31:19] <kgoedtel> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/
[09-Jun-2008 17:31:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:30] <ccesario> kgoedtel, yes yes
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:37] <ccesario> I already read this
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:52] <ccesario> but this isn't applyed in zenoss-2.2
[09-Jun-2008 17:34:53] <ccesario> :/
[09-Jun-2008 17:37:13] <kgoedtel> i dunno, i make my own zenpacks with nagios plugins
[09-Jun-2008 17:37:27] <kgoedtel> i don't use the straight commands
[09-Jun-2008 17:39:59] <kgoedtel> are you sure it doesn't work in 2.2? seems unlikely
[09-Jun-2008 17:40:49] <ccesario> I think that yes....
[09-Jun-2008 17:54:01] <ccesario> kgoedtel, can you avaliable your zenpack ?
[09-Jun-2008 17:54:57] <kgoedtel> i just mimicked what is done in the core zenpacks
[09-Jun-2008 17:55:07] <kgoedtel> i would take a look at those if you are interested
[09-Jun-2008 17:55:45] <magnachef> If there are any devs around, can someone check out my post on events showing up for removed devices http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21096
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Events Appearing For Removed Devices (Bug?) (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:43] <jb> it works fine in 2.2
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:48] <jb> the nagios plugisn
[09-Jun-2008 17:56:51] <magnachef> I guess I should just link out to the main thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6253
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:02] <jb> theres just a slight different.. no PerfConf tab, instead click Templates
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:05] <jb> thats all you have to do
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - zenping, zensyslog, and zentrap won't start (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jun-2008 17:57:51] <ccesario> kgoedtel, hmmM?!
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:02] <ccesario> jb, let me test
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:22] <jb> did you even try to read the docs?
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:24] <jb>
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:46] <nemo_>
[09-Jun-2008 17:58:49] <ccesario> jb, I read the howto
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:01] <jb> i didnt say howto..
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:10] <nemo_> RTFM !
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:12] <nemo_> lol
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:28] <ccesario> eeheheh
[09-Jun-2008 17:59:52] <ccesario> ok ok ok aahaha
[09-Jun-2008 18:00:23] <kgoedtel> seriously though, if you can't get a nagios plugin to work... that is super basic.
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[09-Jun-2008 19:12:10] <ZenMibber_> does anyone knows what this message is..while creating a template and testing the datasource..
[09-Jun-2008 19:12:12] <ZenMibber_> add_mibdir: strings scanned in from /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/site/.index are too large. count = 26
[09-Jun-2008 20:14:07] <magnachef> can someone explain to me about the zec files and how they relate to the individual daemons
[09-Jun-2008 20:39:00] <ghettodev> anyone here have any exp with setting theresholds on bonded interfaces? zenoss doesnt like them by default it seems.
[09-Jun-2008 20:44:54] <magnachef> check the forums, there's some answers there
[09-Jun-2008 20:45:23] <magnachef> essentially you need to create a template (copy the ethernetcsmacd one), rename it bond0, and remove the threshold
[09-Jun-2008 20:52:12] <_LoneCrow> anyone have any plans to make zenoss work with netflow or sflow?
[09-Jun-2008 22:04:06] <jb> I would love netflow integration
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[10-Jun-2008 04:16:22] <lahirup> hi
[10-Jun-2008 04:16:43] <lahirup> i need to clear all the events related to wmi errors
[10-Jun-2008 04:17:04] <lahirup> ican see all the errors which i have sent to history
[10-Jun-2008 04:17:17] <lahirup> now i want to delete the events from the history
[10-Jun-2008 04:17:25] <lahirup> how can i do that?
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[10-Jun-2008 12:54:03] <mib_lafev1> anybody home?
[10-Jun-2008 12:59:36] <pitillo> hello, good afternoon
[10-Jun-2008 13:08:22] <pitillo> is there a way to use the default template and add (I tested with bind because add seems to create a new one) a new template provided by a zenpack and don't remove the default template? I tried to take a look to zproperties too, but I am not sure if this is the correct way.
[10-Jun-2008 13:10:14] <jb> Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/ietf/IP-MIB) Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/ietf/DISMAN-EVENT-MIB) Did not find 'zeroDotZero' in module SNMPv2-SMI (/usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/ietf/DISMAN-SCHEDULE-MIB)
[10-Jun-2008 13:10:14] <jb> hm
[10-Jun-2008 13:12:06] <jb> wonder what is causing that to pop up
[10-Jun-2008 13:12:31] <jb> during device model
[10-Jun-2008 13:12:37] <jb> nothing has changed in IP-MIB and SNMPv2-SMI
[10-Jun-2008 13:48:06] <pitillo> ummm well, seems that mibs don't exist in the servers too... I will try to play with another zenpack
[10-Jun-2008 13:50:08] <pitillo> nice, seems that works perfectly with cisco switches... I will try to apply this template to them
[10-Jun-2008 13:52:19] <mib_lafev1> I am new to Zenoss..hello everybody..
[10-Jun-2008 13:52:45] <pitillo> strange, now with cisco templates works well, I add a new template and the default template is there too, but with servers don't do the same, removes the default template and put only the newer
[10-Jun-2008 13:53:05] <pitillo> hello mib_lafev1, I am new to zenoss too, you are welcome
[10-Jun-2008 13:54:05] <mib_lafev1> I have received a trap (notification) from my device, I would like to take that notification and transform it into an Email message..
[10-Jun-2008 13:54:31] <pitillo> well, was my fault to bind more than 1 template sorry, can be added more than 1 with the control key, I am sorry
[10-Jun-2008 13:54:36] <mib_lafev1> I do understand that the trap should become an alert before becoming an Email..is that correct
[10-Jun-2008 13:57:51] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, did you readed the admin guide? I think that's well explained there. You must setup zenoss users with their email and then monitor(report) whatever you want in devices
[10-Jun-2008 13:58:31] <pitillo> (I assume you have setup the mail server in the settings menu)
[10-Jun-2008 13:58:41] <mib_lafev1> Yes I ahve
[10-Jun-2008 13:59:06] <mib_lafev1> Can this be done with the Admin user..or a user different than admin has to be created..
[10-Jun-2008 14:02:37] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, you can do it with the admin user, or you can make users to fill your needs, you can add 1 user to 1 device only. If you din't take a look to the admin guide, I recommend you to read it first. I think that doubt can be solved from it
[10-Jun-2008 14:05:59] <mib_lafev1> I have read the manual and this are just questions where I felt I should ask the question..
[10-Jun-2008 14:07:21] <mib_lafev1> could you tell me from your perspective, the flow of your Zenoss operations..What happens when you get a trap?..what kind of action do you take first..?
[10-Jun-2008 14:15:20] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, well, I can't point you now, I am starting bit by bit and I haven't setup the alerts. I think I will keep track of criticals events on servers. I think zenoss will be able to send me a mail with a the critical event.
[10-Jun-2008 14:15:43] <pitillo> -a... the
[10-Jun-2008 14:16:12] <pitillo> I am quite new with zenoss and I am starting too.
[10-Jun-2008 14:16:59] <pitillo> now working with zenpacks and binding templates (which it's quite easy understanding it, at first, I thought it could be harder)
[10-Jun-2008 14:21:46] <pitillo> is there a way to show templates which are shown in a device sectio (/devices/servers) in to another section (like /net/routers) ?
[10-Jun-2008 14:21:49] <EekZ`> hi.
[10-Jun-2008 14:21:57] <pitillo> yo EekZ`
[10-Jun-2008 14:23:51] <EekZ`> excuse me for asking but when i install zenoss plugin on centos 5.1 and run the command zenplugin.py --list-plugins, i get 1.1.4.2. "platform 'XXX' is not implemented. no plugins exists". which is supposed to mean that the plugins are not supported for this OS. i cannot imagine centos 5.1 is not supported...
[10-Jun-2008 14:23:57] <EekZ`> hi pitillo ;>
[10-Jun-2008 14:25:58] <mib_lafev1> Pitillo..I think you could use ...Click on Device=> Templates => More => All templates
[10-Jun-2008 14:26:21] <pitillo> mib_lafev1, taking a look. Thank you
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[10-Jun-2008 14:26:59] <mib_lafev1> there you could see the path tot all the templates
[10-Jun-2008 14:27:35] <pitillo> ummm I have no All templates option. I can add or bind and when I try to bind another template, the HP isn't shown in that device
[10-Jun-2008 14:29:01] <pitillo> if I use /devices I can see al the templates (not in the device I want to add the template) but those templates, make a reference to another device section
[10-Jun-2008 14:29:07] <mib_lafev1> you would have to "arrow down" on the /devices...sections to see the ...more...option
[10-Jun-2008 14:29:42] <pitillo> yes, directly in the devices section I can see all templates. But when I manage the device that I want to bind a /server template, it isn't shown
[10-Jun-2008 14:30:16] <pitillo> I will take a look to see if I can allow the network section directly in the template
[10-Jun-2008 14:30:22] <mib_lafev1> do you know how to copy a template?
[10-Jun-2008 14:30:50] <mib_lafev1> taht is also a way to do it..
[10-Jun-2008 14:31:07] <pitillo> ummm I don't know, but I will read about it, thank you for those tips mib_lafev1
[10-Jun-2008 14:31:49] <mib_lafev1> tell me what you are trying to do...maybe I could help
[10-Jun-2008 14:34:15] <pitillo> ummm I downloaded a zenpack (hp temp zenpack) and I saw at code that it can manage cisco switches temperatures too. I want to add to a cisco switch that template, but I can't find it because seems it's added in the server section. Btw, I think I am doing a hard thing, because in all templates I can't see the cisco 1, only hp servers related
[10-Jun-2008 14:35:13] <pitillo> I think I am trying to do some things together and the bet I can do now it's start understanding how zenpacks and templates work
[10-Jun-2008 14:35:30] <pitillo> *bet/best
[10-Jun-2008 14:37:13] <pitillo> well, I think I know how can I change it to use cisco instead of hp (editing the template and changing the type there) Now I must to know how to bind this template to the switch
[10-Jun-2008 14:37:29] <pitillo> I will take a look to what you said earlier, about copying templates. Thank you
[10-Jun-2008 14:37:50] <mib_lafev1> Cisco switches temperatures are managed witha mib..I do not know the full name but I know it has "ENV" for invironment included
[10-Jun-2008 14:38:12] <mib_lafev1> I meant environment
[10-Jun-2008 14:39:03] <mib_lafev1> I think is this one..CISCO-ENVMON-MIB.my
[10-Jun-2008 14:39:55] <pitillo> ummm I have that choice too, but if I can bind the template and change the type for switches I think it isn't a bad idea to use that zenpack (instead of quering for that mib)
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:07] <mib_lafev1> you cpould find it here http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/MIBS/MainServlet?ReleaseSel=2416&PlatformSel=0&fsSel=0&IMAGE_NAME=
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:18] <pitillo> I will share that zenpack to manage hp servers and cisco swithches
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Cisco IOS MIB Locator (at tools.cisco.com)
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:30] <pitillo> ummm taking a look to it
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:34] <pitillo> ah yes yes
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:39] <mib_lafev1> maybe..as long as is does not get out of hand
[10-Jun-2008 14:40:40] <pitillo> that's another history xD
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:06] <pitillo> I can confirm that the oid provided by the zenpack works pretty well
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:18] <pitillo> I prefer to don't touch cisco mibs by now
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:26] <magnachef> If there are any devs around, can someone check out my post on events showing up for removed devices http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6253
[10-Jun-2008 14:41:44] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Events Appearing For Removed Devices (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:01] <mib_lafev1> cISCO IS NOT THAT BAD..tRY nORTEL pbx'S
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:16] <mib_lafev1> sorry for the caos
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:21] <mib_lafev1> sorry for the caps
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:42] <pitillo> yeah, I don't mean it's bad or not
I am the bad, not cisco [10-Jun-2008 14:42:44] <mib_lafev1> Cisco is not that bad...try Nortel PBX's
[10-Jun-2008 14:42:53] <mib_lafev1> I see.
[10-Jun-2008 14:52:31] <pitillo> nice, I think I saw how to copy templates. I will try to bind it now and change the type to cisco. Thank you very much for your tips mib_lafev1
[10-Jun-2008 15:06:23] <magnachef> does anyone know where the list of devices to be polled via zensnmperf is cached?
[10-Jun-2008 15:27:10] <pitillo> umm seems that now there are some rrd missing files for the perf graphs...
[10-Jun-2008 15:27:55] <pitillo> well, seems that it musnt' be working well to make the graphs files then
[10-Jun-2008 16:55:45] <punkcut> Can someone point me to some documentation for importing pre-made RRDs into Zenoss?
[10-Jun-2008 17:41:02] <punkcut> Does anyone know how to import pre-made RRDs into Zenoss?
[10-Jun-2008 18:00:16] <twm1010> punkcut: i've never heard someone mention doing that
[10-Jun-2008 18:02:45] <punkcut> twm1010, well there is a cacti NTOP plugin. Im wondering how well Zenoss supports cacti plugins
[10-Jun-2008 18:04:15] <hunter> A newbie has a network discover problem, if anyone is about.
[10-Jun-2008 18:07:01] <punkcut> whats up hunter
[10-Jun-2008 18:07:21] <hunter> I admin 4 or 5 subnets of a campus network.
[10-Jun-2008 18:07:36] <hunter> Brand new install, haven't configured hardly anything yet but the admin password.
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:21] <hunter> I tried a network discovery on one of my subnets last week, but zenoss tried discovering the ENTIRE campus network.
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:30] <punkcut> yah I have the same problem
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:35] <punkcut> Zenoss is retarded in that respect.
[10-Jun-2008 18:08:47] <punkcut> try adding the CIDR notation.
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:14] <hunter> I told zenoss to NOT discover the campus net, but now when I discover any of the subnet, it only wants to discover the parent, and refuses to do anything
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:27] <hunter> punkcut: where? When I add a subnetwork ?
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:43] <punkcut> yes
[10-Jun-2008 18:09:53] <hunter> Ok, let me try that
[10-Jun-2008 18:10:44] <hunter> So instead of just adding 125.3.12.0, I'd add 125.3.12.0/24?
[10-Jun-2008 18:12:19] <punkcut> correct
[10-Jun-2008 18:12:53] <hunter> Deleting all the networks and just adding the subnet desired also seems to do it.
[10-Jun-2008 18:12:58] <hunter> Strange.
[10-Jun-2008 18:13:15] <hunter> Any other obvious gotchas a newbie (to zenoss anyway) should know?
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:08] <punkcut> hunter, lots of em
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:14] <punkcut> hunter, 2.2 is very buggy
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:30] <ghettodev> put things in the right class when you start out will save you tons of bad oid problems and wierd threshold alerts
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:45] <punkcut> hunter, if you use the community edition theres no granular ACL and role control for the users. Which is a big gotcha for enterprise environments
[10-Jun-2008 18:14:48] <ghettodev> if you dont know what a device is or how to mib it just put it in the ping class
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:06] <hunter> ugh
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:11] <hunter> punkcut: thats not good.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:17] <punkcut> hunter, no not at all
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:26] <hunter> punkcut: and let me guess - they won't take patches to put that back in.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:37] <punkcut> hunter, luckily its still workable for me. Im basically just holding out until Zabbix 1.5 comes out.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:42] <twm1010> hunter: best advice I can give, is to stop what you're doing, take some time, and read the admin guide, it reads like a dictionary, but its worth it.
[10-Jun-2008 18:15:45] <punkcut> hunter, no its part of the enterprise edition only.
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:16] <punkcut> heh. I read through the admin guide front and back and when I got done I was like "ok, now how do I _do_ stuff."
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:16] <hunter> twm1010: chewing my way through it right now, but I need SOMETHING to demo at 3pm EST.
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:28] <twm1010> Ah....
[10-Jun-2008 18:16:50] <hunter> punkcut: thats my complaint. Lots of theory (and really short pages) but little "Ok, now if I actually wanted to USE the product, which button do I push?"
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:06] <punkcut> hunter, and the UI is miserable.
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:14] <punkcut> hunter, but its really really powerful.
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:24] <punkcut> hunter, which is the offset of it all. and it scales well.
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:27] <hunter> what don't you like about the UI?
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:54] <twm1010> I recently did a scoring matrix of Zenoss core against its competitive products
[10-Jun-2008 18:17:56] <punkcut> hunter, its just disgusting from a UI design standpoint. Common tasks can be hidden. They have a tendency to put grey links on a grey background...
[10-Jun-2008 18:18:21] <punkcut> hunter, for example. Try and add a graph to the performance tab.
[10-Jun-2008 18:18:24] <twm1010> the only place where Zenoss really tanked was in the canned reporting, but when you factored in the free vs. pay... it made sense
[10-Jun-2008 18:18:50] <twm1010> We opted for Orion instead, but I have plans to maintain Zenoss for my own benefit
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:05] <punkcut> hunter, or just try and add a graph at all. youll see how the UI makes no sense.
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:27] <twm1010> punk: the learning curve is quite severe too
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:41] <hunter> Ok, discovery succeeded. Its just presenting no useful information whatsoever
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:41] <punkcut> twm1010, you mean solarwinds open source?
[10-Jun-2008 18:19:54] <punkcut> hunter, yes you have to add the fields to your discovery scope
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:04] <twm1010> no, the product "orion network performance monitor"
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:10] <hunter> punkcut: ok, that read like english - what the hell did you say?
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:12] <punkcut> click on the little javascript drop down, goto manage -> add collector plugins
[10-Jun-2008 18:20:49] <punkcut> twm1010, yah thats made by solarwinds
[10-Jun-2008 18:21:23] <punkcut> twm1010, i thought orion for commercial ware though
[10-Jun-2008 18:21:39] <hunter> punkcut: now I'm totally lost. When I click on the "localhost" collector, I see all the crap I just discovered.
[10-Jun-2008 18:21:50] <hunter> But NOT under the network that "discovered" it.
[10-Jun-2008 18:23:04] <punkcut> hunter, drill down the devices section until you come to the top level of your devices. Then goto the little blue arrow drop down menu thing : goto more -> Collector plugins -> Add fields
[10-Jun-2008 18:23:38] <hunter> Ok, I might be there.
[10-Jun-2008 18:24:21] <twm1010> punkcut: yes it is commercial, we payed for it
[10-Jun-2008 18:24:28] <punkcut> twm1010, ahh i c
[10-Jun-2008 18:24:49] <hunter> My top level choices are now "classes", "events", "zproperties", and "templates"
[10-Jun-2008 18:25:33] <hunter> My existing list is zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap, z.s.DeviceMap, z.s.InterfaceMap, z.s.RouteMap
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:29] <punkcut> look for the add fields button
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:35] <punkcut> its grey on grey background. use your find command
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:47] <punkcut> like i said. Retarded UI design
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:50] <hunter> Found it. SHEESH
[10-Jun-2008 18:26:57] <hunter> which ones do I want to add?
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:03] <punkcut> whatever you want.
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:13] <punkcut> theres a list in the admin guide which describes all of them
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:24] <punkcut> but they expand the information gathered by the auto discovery section
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:33] <punkcut> also - sign up for the forum.
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:33] <hunter> I just want hostnames, IP addrs, mac address would be nice.
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:40] <punkcut> it has that automatically
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:42] <hunter> (for now)
[10-Jun-2008 18:27:52] <punkcut> let it discover. it will get them
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:03] <punkcut> make sure your SNMP is setup correctly too
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:06] <twm1010> are all your devices confiugured for SNMP?
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:16] <hunter> We don't have SNMP on any but a few devices.
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:23] <punkcut> hunter, then you need to set it up
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:23] <hunter> baby steps, baby steps.
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:35] <punkcut> hunter, how do you expect zenoss to get that info?
[10-Jun-2008 18:28:51] <hunter> what? The IP address? ping and a DNS query.
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:16] <twm1010> it should do that
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:22] <twm1010> mac address would have to come from SNMP
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:31] <hunter> Once a device is "discovered", how do you change it from "discoved" to "Printer" or "server" ?class?
[10-Jun-2008 18:29:39] <hunter> twm1010: I could see that.
[10-Jun-2008 18:30:14] <punkcut> hunter, just move it to there. use the little drop down boxes.
[10-Jun-2008 18:30:54] <hunter> Ah ha. I keep forgetting I have ot look through there.
[10-Jun-2008 18:32:43] <hunter> Hmm. If we had snmp more places, an SNMP scan would have a better chance of classifying all this instead of me having do it by hand.
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:21] <twm1010> well SNMP or not, it will throw it into the "discovered" class
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:25] <twm1010> AFAIK
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:32] <hunter> It does, and thats a fine start.
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:45] <hunter> But I don't wanna hafta reclassify ~700 systems by hand.
[10-Jun-2008 18:33:47] <twm1010> you can go to the device list to do mass moves of devices to classes
[10-Jun-2008 18:34:00] <hunter> Oh? Select them in a group and then do it?
[10-Jun-2008 18:34:15] <twm1010> yep
[10-Jun-2008 18:35:10] <hunter> Danke
[10-Jun-2008 18:36:46] <hunter> Anyone here played with groundworks or hyperic?
[10-Jun-2008 18:44:15] <hunter> Going in through the "network" view on the left hand side, I can see just hte IP address.
[10-Jun-2008 18:44:30] <hunter> But if I go in through "Devices", I can see reasonable amount of info.
[10-Jun-2008 18:56:47] <hunter> Ok, now I broke it
[10-Jun-2008 20:26:41] <ke4qqq> anyone have a repeating 'can not read processes' alarm go off multiple times per day from a linux box and know how to fix it?
[10-Jun-2008 20:32:43] <locohost> exit
[10-Jun-2008 20:43:43] <magnachef> try increasing your snmp timeout
[10-Jun-2008 20:44:17] <magnachef> I found that if my timeout is too low, that I see a lot of false alerts for processes
[10-Jun-2008 21:43:33] <Guest71168> hi guyz can any1 guide me or help getting my system fixed
[10-Jun-2008 21:43:48] <Guest71168> i mean belong to zenoss community
[10-Jun-2008 21:43:56] <magnachef> what's the problem?
[10-Jun-2008 21:44:26] <Guest71168> but the problem is not of zenoss
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:03] <Guest71168> i have been infected by spyware and i used SUperAntispyware and free AVg to get rid off
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:20] <Guest71168> but still am not able to connect to wireless
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:23] <magnachef> wrong forum
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:26] <Guest71168> yes
[10-Jun-2008 21:45:36] <Guest71168> plz provide the right direction whre i can approach
[10-Jun-2008 21:46:09] <Guest71168> since i knw ppl here are Network admins so they deal with this kind of prblm @ prof or personal level
[10-Jun-2008 21:46:09] <magnachef> not sure, check the list of available IRC channels
[10-Jun-2008 21:46:21] <Guest71168> checked but no use
[10-Jun-2008 21:55:50] <Lego> once infected, you have to reformat....you dont know what sort of backdoor has been installed
[10-Jun-2008 21:55:59] <punkcut> wtf was that about.
[10-Jun-2008 21:56:10] * magnachef shrugs
[10-Jun-2008 21:57:04] <punkcut> and hopefully network admins dont deal with a lot of malware at a personal or professional level, reactively at least.
[10-Jun-2008 21:58:20] <magnachef> yeah, I didn't want to be a jerk, but if you're using SuperAntiSpyware, you're in big trouble
[10-Jun-2008 21:58:37] <Lego> infected? pls see #windows-support chennel....m'kay thx
[10-Jun-2008 21:59:41] <punkcut> ##windows on freenode :-P
[10-Jun-2008 21:59:45] <punkcut> good channel actually.
[10-Jun-2008 21:59:58] * magnachef 's never been
[10-Jun-2008 22:00:30] <ghettodev> once I add mibs to zenoss is the information automatically picke dup when I remodel a device?
[10-Jun-2008 22:05:08] <magnachef> when you get a new alert
[10-Jun-2008 22:05:29] <magnachef> or, I should say, you receive a new trap
[10-Jun-2008 22:06:50] <ghettodev> magnachef: ok then I misunderstood what mibs were for. I thought they were explanations of oids that zenoss didnt understand by default so more info would be available the next time a device got modelled
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:25] <magnachef> no, you'd have to manually add the extra OIDs that you want...the MIBs may translate them for you, but I'm not positive
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:37] <qru> Any quick links for polling traffic status from routers?
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:41] <magnachef> but you should be able to monitor any OID you want without the MIB
[10-Jun-2008 22:12:53] <magnachef> go under OS -> click on interface
[10-Jun-2008 22:13:40] <magnachef> interfaces are not grouped under the Perf tab
[10-Jun-2008 22:14:11] <qru> Just add the IP of the interface I want stats for
[10-Jun-2008 22:14:12] <qru> ?
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:15] <magnachef> well, you need to put it in the /Device/Network class, then model the device
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:24] <magnachef> it should find all the interfaces for you
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:30] <magnachef> and start monitoring them
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:40] <magnachef> you'll see them under the OS tab
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:43] <qru> :/
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:56] <qru> Okay, so I have a group of routers that I auto discovered.
[10-Jun-2008 22:15:59] <magnachef> ...anywho...I'm heading home. Read up on modeling devices and collector plugins
[10-Jun-2008 22:16:18] <magnachef> move them from /Discovered to /Devices/Network/Cisco or something like that
[10-Jun-2008 22:16:58] <qru> I did.
[10-Jun-2008 22:17:15] <magnachef> then remodel the device
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:16] <magnachef> good luck, I'll be back tomorrow
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:34] <qru> Any way to do this for all devices under /Devices/Network/Cisco
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:38] <qru> Or one at a time only?
[10-Jun-2008 22:18:40] <kso512> magnachef: wave
[10-Jun-2008 22:34:59] <kso512> qru: I believe Zenoss will automatically re-model each device, once every 12 or 24 hours...
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[11-Jun-2008 06:25:41] <pitillo> hello, good morning
[11-Jun-2008 06:32:31] <DarkMats> morning
[11-Jun-2008 09:32:17] <opuk> I need to send out availability reports via mail, how would one do this?
[11-Jun-2008 11:23:13] <opuk> i.e like opennms does
[11-Jun-2008 13:05:32] <mib_lafev1> Does anyone knows what this message means: add_mibdir: strings scanned in from /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/site/.index are too large. count = 26
[11-Jun-2008 13:11:53] <Dhama> Hi all, i have just installed and started to use zenoss to monitor various servers in my network. I am having problems monitoring disk space, when the server is modelled the total disk space is retrieved but the free space is not any ideas where i am going wrong?
[11-Jun-2008 13:12:12] <jb> thats normal..
[11-Jun-2008 13:12:14] <jb> give it time
[11-Jun-2008 13:12:19] <jb> you should see stats within 15-30min
[11-Jun-2008 13:13:56] <Dhama> i have had some hosts added for a few days now and it still shows as "unknown"
[11-Jun-2008 13:18:06] <Dhama> i don't get any errors or warnings when i model the device either
[11-Jun-2008 13:19:15] <Dhama> i havent enabled any file system events or anything im just running with the default setup, maybe i missed a config setting?
[11-Jun-2008 13:19:36] <nemo_> is snmp working ?
[11-Jun-2008 13:19:41] <nemo_> snmpwalk your device
[11-Jun-2008 13:20:11] <nemo_> if thats working, next question is what collector plugins are you using
[11-Jun-2008 13:20:24] <Dhama> snmp appears to be working fine as all other info has been collected, e.g. hardware platform, cpu info etc..
[11-Jun-2008 13:21:10] <Dhama> how can i check which collector plugins are enabled?, sorry i am rather new to this
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:27:59] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:00] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.RouteMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:02] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:04] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:06] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:08] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:10] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.CpuMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:12] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:14] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:16] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:18] <Dhama> # zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMapX
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:20] <Dhama> # zenoss.wmi.WinServiceMap
[11-Jun-2008 13:28:22] <Dhama> those are the plugins i am running for each of the servers
[11-Jun-2008 13:34:41] <nemo_> well unless you have a dell etc , i would get rid of the excess junk
[11-Jun-2008 13:34:45] <nemo_> will only slow stuff down
[11-Jun-2008 13:34:58] <nemo_> but you have HRFilesystem*
[11-Jun-2008 13:35:05] <nemo_> so that with snmp should be enough
[11-Jun-2008 13:35:34] <nemo_> wmi not applicable to unix btw
[11-Jun-2008 13:40:14] <Dhama> yes this is a dell server running windows
[11-Jun-2008 13:40:57] <Dhama> is there anything else i can check, it must be some global setting as all the servers have the same issue
[11-Jun-2008 13:43:58] <Dhama_> sorry connection dropped
[11-Jun-2008 13:46:20] <Dhama_> i dunno if this is related but when i try to view the performance graph for the disk, there is a "missing RTD file" message
[11-Jun-2008 13:48:24] <pitillo> I have some of those too... (not sure if it's realted to the zenpacks, plugins, which can't see the info and then they can't create the files)
[11-Jun-2008 13:49:10] <qru> Seems like the machine I am runnning this on might be slightly under powered...
[11-Jun-2008 13:50:48] <Dhama_> Do you have problems collecting the amount of free and available disk space?
[11-Jun-2008 13:51:32] <pitillo> Dhama_, not that exactly. I tried a zenpack which shows the temp, but on the perf graphs I see the rtd missing file
[11-Jun-2008 13:52:12] <pitillo> I tried to load it in the console and seems that they have problems (I think it's related to my perl version which has problems to get the info needed)
[11-Jun-2008 13:52:12] <nemo_> Dhama_, collector plugins are implemented per class with inheritance
[11-Jun-2008 13:52:23] <nemo_> therefore, i doubt all those apply to all your machines
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:34] <Dhama> how can i check that nemo_?
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:43] <nemo_> RTFM maybe ? sorry
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:52] <Dhama> no probs
[11-Jun-2008 13:55:54] <nemo_> i know its a little hard to grasp
[11-Jun-2008 13:56:01] <nemo_> but thats the only way anyone learns
[11-Jun-2008 13:56:22] <Dhama> was a bit messy at first, but i seem to be getting to grips with it now
[11-Jun-2008 13:56:45] <Dhama> very useful system though
[11-Jun-2008 13:58:10] <mib_lafev1> Does anyone knows what this message means: add_mibdir: strings scanned in from /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/site/.index are too large. count = 26
[11-Jun-2008 14:01:29] <mrayzenoss> mib_lafev1: that one stumps google and me.
[11-Jun-2008 14:01:58] <mib_lafev1> It does noy come up in google
[11-Jun-2008 14:02:40] <mib_lafev1> it happens when I do an SNMPWALK...stops at the error and the continues
[11-Jun-2008 14:04:09] <mrayzenoss> what device are you walking?
[11-Jun-2008 14:07:44] <nemo_> try reducing the amount of oids collected at a time
[11-Jun-2008 14:21:58] <mib_lafev1> Nortel PBX
[11-Jun-2008 14:22:14] <mib_lafev1> How do I do that...reducing the OIDS?
[11-Jun-2008 14:29:32] <jb> check the zproperties for the device/device class..
[11-Jun-2008 14:35:20] <mib_lafev1> ok
[11-Jun-2008 14:40:55] <jb> Creation Date: 25-oct-2006
[11-Jun-2008 14:40:55] <jb> Expiration Date: 25-oct-2008
[11-Jun-2008 14:40:57] <jb> oops
[11-Jun-2008 14:41:18] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[11-Jun-2008 14:42:01] <mib_lafev1> That did not work...I used 20..and then I tried 60...same results
[11-Jun-2008 14:44:47] <mib_lafev1> I f I have a trap that it collects info from 10 oids,
[11-Jun-2008 14:45:56] <mib_lafev1> how can I modify the trap details to give more information
[11-Jun-2008 14:47:07] <mib_lafev1> this is the message I get:
[11-Jun-2008 14:47:10] <mib_lafev1> snmp trap 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.5.0.10
[11-Jun-2008 14:47:26] <mib_lafev1> and these are the details from that trap:
[11-Jun-2008 14:48:12] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.1.0 18434
[11-Jun-2008 14:48:25] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.10.0 13 0 47
[11-Jun-2008 14:48:53] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.2.0 2008 6 10 20 36 25
[11-Jun-2008 14:49:26] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.3.0 0
[11-Jun-2008 14:49:34] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.4.0 AUD000
[11-Jun-2008 14:49:51] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.5.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:00] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.6.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:05] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.7.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:11] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.8.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:18] <mib_lafev1> 1.3.6.1.4.1.562.3.3.7.9.0
[11-Jun-2008 14:50:39] <mib_lafev1> community public
[11-Jun-2008 14:51:39] <mib_lafev1> Although my community name is "zombie"
[11-Jun-2008 14:52:01] <mib_lafev1> I want to get more information than that...is tha doable
[11-Jun-2008 14:53:30] <nemo_> can i suggest pastebin.com
?[11-Jun-2008 14:54:44] <mib_lafev1> thank you..I needed that
[11-Jun-2008 15:06:19] <troy42> g'morning
[11-Jun-2008 15:41:03] <qru> Dipslaying the google maps portlet appears to blow things up for me. CPU use goes to 100%. Is there a reason for this?
[11-Jun-2008 16:26:32] <ghettodev> anyone know how I can test the ssh zcommand user from the command line? I'm getting these error messages when I use the ui "WARNING zen.ZenModeler client cf-idb-test.istockphoto.com timeout"
[11-Jun-2008 16:41:44] <punkcut> magnachef, ping
[11-Jun-2008 19:00:31] <mib_lafev1> can someone explain something to me about OIDS?
[11-Jun-2008 19:00:51] <mib_lafev1> When OIDS get loaded, can they be unloaded?
[11-Jun-2008 19:01:26] <mib_lafev1> Reloading OIDS is that okay to do?
[11-Jun-2008 19:03:45] <magnachef> you don't really load OIDs. You load MIBs which allow Zenoss to decode OIDs
[11-Jun-2008 19:04:37] <magnachef> assuming you're just confusing OIDs, with MIBs, I'm not sure how to unload MIBs from Zenoss
[11-Jun-2008 19:05:47] <qru> The google map foo on the dashboard is taking forever to load. Is that normal?
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:06] <magnachef> could be your internet connection?
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:26] <qru> No, everything else is fine.
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:38] <qru> I can load google maps quickly.
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:49] <qru> My cpu goes to 100%.
[11-Jun-2008 19:06:58] <qru> 14871 zenoss 16 0 100 65:27.36 11.4 170m 114m 3796 S .python.bin
[11-Jun-2008 19:10:31] <magnachef> what is process 14871?
[11-Jun-2008 19:11:35] <qru> zenoss 14871 35.3 11.3 174972 117544 ? Sl 09:58 68:08 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py -C /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zope.conf
[11-Jun-2008 19:19:18] <mib_lafev1> Magna you are correct I am confusing my self...
[11-Jun-2008 19:19:54] <mib_lafev1> the biggest problems I find in loading Mibs is that they have depencies that has to be satisfied before loading
[11-Jun-2008 19:20:29] <mib_lafev1> and sometimes thos dependencies have other dependencies...it is kind of hard to keep track..
[11-Jun-2008 19:20:54] <magnachef> yeah, best to grab as many mibs as possible and load them all at the same time
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:10] <mib_lafev1> Magna: where do keep your mibs?
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:17] <mib_lafev1> one big directory
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:23] <mib_lafev1> or you keep them separated
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:29] <magnachef> it'd be nice if Zenoss maintained a zipped archive of as many mibs as possible
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:34] <mib_lafev1> by site..
[11-Jun-2008 19:21:38] <magnachef> one big directory
[11-Jun-2008 19:22:54] <mib_lafev1> I have done that and sometime you load the MIB and you get an error saying that the file does not exist..it is frustrating..
[11-Jun-2008 19:30:29] <magnachef> yeah
[11-Jun-2008 20:28:49] <woodland_critter> <- Running Zenoss 2.2 on Ubuntu Server, seeing this message repeat over and over.. I tried the steps mentioned on the forums.. no go, still seeing error:
[11-Jun-2008 20:28:52] <woodland_critter> zenwin cycle time exceeded
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:08] <woodland_critter> threshold of zenwin cycle time exceeded: current value 170.30
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:09] <magnachef> how many devices?
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:13] <woodland_critter> to be exact
[11-Jun-2008 20:30:24] <woodland_critter> 13
[11-Jun-2008 21:49:37] <mrayzenoss> is anyone here having the VMWare Entitlement Key issue?
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[12-Jun-2008 09:49:46] <shadeimi> hi at all
[12-Jun-2008 09:50:03] <shadeimi> anyone know about a bug into osprocess tab?
[12-Jun-2008 10:15:48] <nemo_> explain shadeimi
[12-Jun-2008 10:17:37] <shadeimi> nemo
[12-Jun-2008 10:17:43] <shadeimi> i have this problem
[12-Jun-2008 10:18:06] <shadeimi> i've an host monitored by ssh
[12-Jun-2008 10:18:18] <shadeimi> i add a list of processes
[12-Jun-2008 10:18:28] <shadeimi> and i remodel
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:07] <shadeimi> the process not running on my machine disappear
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:18] <shadeimi> if i lock the processes before remodelling
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:40] <shadeimi> if a listed process is not running on the machine
[12-Jun-2008 10:19:45] <shadeimi> the light remain green
[12-Jun-2008 10:23:08] <nemo_> go to the host --> os and delete it
[12-Jun-2008 10:23:13] <nemo_> i dont like how it works
[12-Jun-2008 10:23:47] <shadeimi> i don't understand, if i delete the processes
[12-Jun-2008 10:24:25] <shadeimi> what kind of monitoring is make?
[12-Jun-2008 10:29:30] <shadeimi> nemo?
[12-Jun-2008 10:36:39] <shadeimi> i've solved!!!
[12-Jun-2008 10:36:41] <shadeimi>
[12-Jun-2008 11:19:03] <nemo_> hehe ok
[12-Jun-2008 11:19:13] <nemo_> he solved it eh ;p
[12-Jun-2008 13:53:37] <ckrough> hey hey
[12-Jun-2008 13:53:51] <mrayzenoss> morning
[12-Jun-2008 13:59:40] <nemo_> halrow
[12-Jun-2008 14:02:12] <ckrough> How many people are in your office Matt?
[12-Jun-2008 14:03:18] <twm1010> Would you look at that, my google map decided to start drawing links again...
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[12-Jun-2008 14:04:33] <Comradin> do I need mysql5 for zenoss or would mysql4 be sufficient?
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:42] <mib_naruto> help with loading mibs in ver. 2.2 please
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:46] <mib_naruto> insanity
[12-Jun-2008 14:04:50] <twm1010> I think it installs the MySQL it needs
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:00] <twm1010> or no, that was python...
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:06] <twm1010> I think it works with v5 though...
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:07] <Comradin> hmm, as my box already has an mysql4 server running
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:07] <qru> twm1010: How many locations on your map?
[12-Jun-2008 14:05:33] <twm1010> It'll probably work, but don't quote me on it
[12-Jun-2008 14:06:20] <mib_naruto> what does the message "Failed to load mib" means...I am in the directory where the Mib is located....
[12-Jun-2008 14:06:57] <mib_naruto> I tried to load them all at once...does not work as most of them will not load
[12-Jun-2008 14:07:23] <mib_naruto> when done individually...I get this message or the Skipping message
[12-Jun-2008 14:08:17] <mib_naruto> or "unable to find the file providing support"..
[12-Jun-2008 14:09:21] <mib_naruto> and the name of the mib...so when I try to load the supporting MIB...I get the fail to load mib message...I
[12-Jun-2008 14:09:44] <mib_naruto> I could here myself thin inhere...:)
[12-Jun-2008 14:09:51] <mib_naruto> I could here myself think inhere...:)
[12-Jun-2008 14:10:04] <mib_naruto> I could hear myself think inhere...:)
[12-Jun-2008 14:10:10] <mib_naruto> there I fixed it
[12-Jun-2008 14:12:07] <twm1010> There is sometimes an echo...
[12-Jun-2008 14:12:18] <ckrough> echo...
[12-Jun-2008 14:12:20] <ckrough> echo...
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:27] <mrayzenoss> In the Austin office or in all of Zenoss?
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:33] <ckrough> Austin
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:51] <mrayzenoss> today... 4
[12-Jun-2008 14:15:55] <mrayzenoss> next week 6
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:01] <ckrough> Im down in San Antonio at Rackspace. Gonna have to come drinking with you guys
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:02] <mrayzenoss> and room for around 20
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:24] <mrayzenoss> we'll be hosting some sort of high-tech happy hour in Austin soon
[12-Jun-2008 14:16:33] <ckrough> nice
[12-Jun-2008 14:18:24] <mib_naruto> I hear the echo again
[12-Jun-2008 14:19:26] <mib_naruto> can anyone address my question...this is preventing me to move on..
[12-Jun-2008 14:20:44] <baffle> Hmm, is there any way to tell zenoss that an object lives in a separate routing table? I.e. I have two servers. They have two different IP addresses. But on another configured interface (wich I see via SNMP) they have configured the same RFC1918 address.. Boom?
[12-Jun-2008 14:21:16] <baffle> mib_naruto: Just use your support agreement with ZenOss.
[12-Jun-2008 14:21:36] <mib_naruto> but of course I do not have one..
[12-Jun-2008 14:22:05] <mib_naruto> If I ever get beyond the proof of concept with my manager...
[12-Jun-2008 14:22:07] <baffle> mib_naruto: Well, then you'll just have to wait till someone that knows the answer to your questions actually feel like replying..
[12-Jun-2008 14:22:34] <mib_naruto> well...that is not fun...
[12-Jun-2008 14:23:13] <baffle> mib_naruto: I'd help if I could, but I have another guy handling all those kind of problems.
[12-Jun-2008 14:23:18] <baffle> mib_naruto: And he's not in.
[12-Jun-2008 14:23:50] <mib_naruto> so let me ask you, you run ran "zenmib run *.*" and your mibs all happily loaded in version 2.2?
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:05] <mib_naruto> I know...
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:19] <mib_naruto> and thanks for the encouraging words...
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:23] <mib_naruto> I needed that
[12-Jun-2008 14:24:50] <mib_naruto> I want to get beyond the proof of concept before my time runs out
[12-Jun-2008 14:25:09] <mib_naruto> I will keep looking..
[12-Jun-2008 14:26:00] <ckrough> not sure about your particular problem, but I can say that the software works fine. We are monitoring 14,000 devices. The only problems we have are due to in-house customizations and scalability
[12-Jun-2008 14:27:37] <mib_naruto> I am at the point where my managers are buying into the idea, but they see me struggling and question the fact that the product is not easy to manage as it sounds...I just can't prove it otherwise right now
[12-Jun-2008 14:29:02] <mib_naruto> if we are able to make it work with the Nortel's call managers (PBX) then it will be worth to buy the enterprise version with subscription
[12-Jun-2008 14:29:27] <ckrough> It definitely has a learning curve, but for a produce this complex I don't know of any products that don't have a significant learning curve. It's definitely not something that you can hit the ground running on.
[12-Jun-2008 14:30:10] <mib_naruto> I agree, very complex and the scalability makes it very attractive
[12-Jun-2008 14:30:33] <ckrough> how many devices are you thinking of monitoring
[12-Jun-2008 14:31:17] <mib_naruto> it will be close to a 1000...but right now we are working to get the PBX system...25 devices online...
[12-Jun-2008 14:31:55] <mrayzenoss> mib_naruto: you can get a 30 day enterprise trial for free, and the support that comes with it will handle any issues that are blocking you
[12-Jun-2008 14:32:07] <mrayzenoss> if you're already considering Enterprise
[12-Jun-2008 14:32:41] <mrayzenoss> not that you don't get great support in IRC...
[12-Jun-2008 14:35:16] <mib_naruto> I wish the community in IRC would grow bigger that it is...I usually meet here the same people...and thy are ussually challenged byu the product as I am..
[12-Jun-2008 14:42:12] <mrayzenoss> mib_naruto: yeah, the forums have more responders, but IRC is better for instantaneous answers
[12-Jun-2008 14:42:30] <mrayzenoss> plus the forums are cross-posted as mailing lists, which is more convenient
[12-Jun-2008 14:43:26] <mrayzenoss> at least to me, so I don't miss anything and it all dumps into my searchable mail
[12-Jun-2008 15:03:03] <Comradin> sigh, installed by accident the bin version but would like to use the rpm file, how do I do the uninstall?
[12-Jun-2008 15:03:36] <mib_naruto> Ther are just not enough people in IRC..
[12-Jun-2008 15:03:49] <Comradin> just do the rm -rf way?
[12-Jun-2008 15:04:32] <Comradin> argh, ok, most stupid question of the day
[12-Jun-2008 15:04:48] <Comradin> just found the uninstall in the zenoss root directory
[12-Jun-2008 15:14:26] <twm1010> there is also a switch you can put on during install, that does a "Fresh" install
[12-Jun-2008 15:14:31] <twm1010> regardless of what is layed down already
[12-Jun-2008 15:35:24] <mib_naruto> what does the message "Failed to load mib" means...I am in the directory where the Mibs are located....
[12-Jun-2008 15:36:13] <mib_naruto> I tried to load them all at once...does not work as most of them will not load
[12-Jun-2008 15:36:30] <mib_naruto> I tried individually I get the same error
[12-Jun-2008 15:53:56] <mib_naruto> anyone here wants to help me to load my mibs...the conventional way is not working
[12-Jun-2008 16:00:35] <nemo_> yawn @ mibs !
[12-Jun-2008 16:17:30] <mib_naruto> anyone that can help me loading th emibs
[12-Jun-2008 16:26:43] <ckrough> bah, I need to customize graph definitions for 10 instantiations of the ethernetCsmacd template across 4 servers. Anyone know a programatic way to do that? My fallback is copy-paste...
[12-Jun-2008 17:39:21] <axisys> ok i installed zenoss stack debian pkg on ubuntu
[12-Jun-2008 17:39:24] <axisys> now what
[12-Jun-2008 17:39:39] <axisys> cannot find a doc on step by step guide
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:14] <ckrough> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:31] <adytum-bot> Title: Install Guides - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:32] <ckrough> and http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/
[12-Jun-2008 17:59:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[12-Jun-2008 18:33:00] <ckrough> anyone know where the default rrdgraph arguments come from? (ie; -F -E )
[12-Jun-2008 18:38:57] <ckrough> i want to include "--interlaced" in the rrd command be default
[12-Jun-2008 19:35:05] <crashdummyMCH> hi all. I just got zabbix set up and monitoring about 30 servers. However, it seems that certain servers the editDevice pages does not load or takes > 5min to load. Other devices it loads just fine no error in logs any ideas?
[12-Jun-2008 20:23:47] <mib_naruto> After finishing installing version 2.2 and doing the discovery...changing to user Zenoss causes error...
[12-Jun-2008 20:23:58] <mib_naruto> su - zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:24:39] <mib_naruto> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/zenoss: no such file or directory
[12-Jun-2008 20:24:52] <mib_naruto> -bash-3.1$
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:12] <mib_naruto> does anyone have any clue why is this happening..
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:36] <mib_naruto> I an using CentOS 5.1....this is my 3 reinstall...same results..
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:39] <kso512> mib_naruto: it doesn't sound like the install went right...
[12-Jun-2008 20:25:56] <kso512> mib_naruto: I've only worked with Ubuntu, not CentOS...
[12-Jun-2008 20:26:02] <mib_naruto> like I said it is my 3rd reinstall....I was hoping that was the case
[12-Jun-2008 20:26:39] <mib_naruto> It is looking for that directory...and it can't find it, so the zenoss user can not log in
[12-Jun-2008 20:27:26] <mib_naruto> what a pain this is..I am literally stuck here for 2 days..I can not install any mibs
[12-Jun-2008 20:27:53] <mib_naruto> I would have to change my install to ubuntu..
[12-Jun-2008 20:28:12] <mib_naruto> CentOS seems to run alot faster
[12-Jun-2008 20:30:46] <ckrough> try creating /home/zenoss and change it's ownership to the zenoss user
[12-Jun-2008 20:31:29] <mib_naruto> what would be the fullpath???please
[12-Jun-2008 20:32:19] <mib_naruto> I meant full path?
[12-Jun-2008 20:33:23] <kso512> mib_naruto: is there a user 'zenoss'? If not, create one with "adduser" and make sure it creates that directory.
[12-Jun-2008 20:33:56] <mib_naruto> let me take a look
[12-Jun-2008 20:35:26] <kso512> mib_naruto: If there is already a user, just make the directory: sudo mkdir /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:36:04] <mib_naruto> there is a user zenoss and the home directory is /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:36:28] <kso512> mib_naruto: Yeah, sounds like it just didn't make the directory during install...
[12-Jun-2008 20:37:16] <kso512> mib_naruto: Have you ever heard of Webmin? It's a badass web-based interface for controlling Linux systems. Makes finding out information, and making changes, very straight-forward.
[12-Jun-2008 20:38:45] <mib_naruto> I have used it long ago..
[12-Jun-2008 20:39:30] <mib_naruto> I will do this first.........sudo mkdir /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:39:45] <mib_naruto> then zenoss has take ownership...right?
[12-Jun-2008 20:40:05] <kso512> mib_naruto: Yes: sudo chown zenoss /home/zenoss
[12-Jun-2008 20:41:57] <mib_naruto> "can not create directory"...I am root...it should be able
[12-Jun-2008 20:42:48] <kso512> mib_naruto: Bizarre
[12-Jun-2008 20:43:24] <mib_naruto> jeezuz..
[12-Jun-2008 20:46:00] <mib_naruto> I was able to make the directory..
[12-Jun-2008 20:46:45] <mib_naruto> have to make one by one the same for chown
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:41] <mib_naruto> well that cleared the erro..
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:46] <mib_naruto> error
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:49] <kso512> yay!
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:54] <mib_naruto> let me try installing the mibs
[12-Jun-2008 20:47:59] <mib_naruto> thanks
[12-Jun-2008 20:49:36] <kso512> mib_naruto: no problem
[12-Jun-2008 20:53:22] <mib_naruto> I think th e path is still screwed up..
[12-Jun-2008 20:54:11] <mib_naruto> when I run zenmib......it say command not found..
[12-Jun-2008 20:54:38] <mib_naruto> I will try again tomorrow...
[12-Jun-2008 20:54:53] <mib_naruto> but at least that part is fixed
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[13-Jun-2008 01:02:21] <mechcozmo> hello
[13-Jun-2008 01:02:37] <mechcozmo> I have a question with regards to SNMP-Informant
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:05] <mechcozmo> does Zenoss have the ability to read the MIBs automatically?
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:10] <mechcozmo> or does that have to be installed?
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:29] <mechcozmo> and is there an alternative to pushing the SNMP-Informant software to all our machines?
[13-Jun-2008 01:03:54] <mechcozmo> i s'pose that makes three questions, but all related...
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[13-Jun-2008 08:47:58] <shadeimi> hi people
[13-Jun-2008 08:48:12] <shadeimi> i've solved the ticket 'bout OSProcess
[13-Jun-2008 08:48:22] <shadeimi> where i can post the solution?
[13-Jun-2008 08:49:00] <DarkMats> I guess the forum would be a good place. Easy to find
[13-Jun-2008 08:49:21] <shadeimi>
well... can i have my eeepc? uAHUAHsas[13-Jun-2008 08:49:50] <DarkMats> hehe, well not from me anyway
[13-Jun-2008 08:50:04] <shadeimi> AUHAUhs
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:13] <shadeimi> ok, i've posted the solution
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:21] <shadeimi> all the comments are accepted
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:30] <shadeimi> also cash and eeepc's
[13-Jun-2008 09:00:31] <shadeimi>
[13-Jun-2008 09:27:05] <shadeimi> DarkMats, have u read the post?
[13-Jun-2008 09:31:45] <DarkMats> No, no time today =/
[13-Jun-2008 09:34:46] <shadeimi> don't worry
[13-Jun-2008 11:16:21] <nemo_> what post
[13-Jun-2008 13:12:18] <mib_naruto> hello..
[13-Jun-2008 13:13:50] <mib_naruto> when I run zenmib as the zenoss user, I get "command not found"
[13-Jun-2008 14:52:23] <ccesario> hello!
[13-Jun-2008 16:04:17] <mib_naruto> Where is the $ZENHOME variable declared?
[13-Jun-2008 16:08:52] <kso512> mib_naruto: I declare it in /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[13-Jun-2008 16:09:48] <mib_naruto> thanks..I just can't see it..
[13-Jun-2008 16:10:30] <kso512> mib_naruto: I had to add it.
[13-Jun-2008 16:10:53] <Blacky> Hello...
[13-Jun-2008 16:11:01] <Blacky> Good evening @ all ...
[13-Jun-2008 16:11:22] <kso512> Blacky: Howdy
[13-Jun-2008 16:11:48] <Blacky> Anyone watching Italy vs. Roma ? =)
[13-Jun-2008 16:14:11] <mib_naruto> I see
[13-Jun-2008 16:25:41] <mib_naruto> anyone have centos5.1 and zenoss 2.2 running?
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[13-Jun-2008 16:42:38] punkcut25 is now known as punkcut
[13-Jun-2008 16:44:11] <Blacky> i've successfully run the vmware image from zenoss *yippy*
[13-Jun-2008 16:48:12] Blacky is now known as Blackyshark
[13-Jun-2008 16:48:43] <Blackyshark> is there someone who can help me a little bit with zenoss ?
[13-Jun-2008 16:49:23] <Blackyshark> i want to use it for monitor serveral server running windows 2000 server, win 2k3 server or unix-based systems.
[13-Jun-2008 16:58:20] <mib_naruto> Blacky: did you have to enable SNMP on the servers?
[13-Jun-2008 17:33:33] <ccesario> Hello, I can force imediate service checking by zenoss web interface ?
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[13-Jun-2008 18:26:25] <stevenblack> Where's the docs on how to add a ZEP?
[13-Jun-2008 18:28:33] <stevenblack> I created one in "My Folder", but I don't know the procedure to get it added to the list of ZEPs on the website.
[13-Jun-2008 18:32:04] <stevenblack> Never mind. ZEPs are defined in the wiki. The sidebar link to "Enhancement Proposals" points to a page on the website which appears no longer updated.
[13-Jun-2008 19:02:07] <stevenblack> I filed a bug against the website. Unfortunately, there's not a component for the bug tracking system or I'd file a bug against it that the zenoss.com website isn't listed as a component.
[13-Jun-2008 19:08:02] <ckrough> I have snmp traps coming in with just OID numbers, does that mean my MIB is missing that definition?
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[14-Jun-2008 10:28:46] <MrTux> hey, somebody from zenoss here, the trac is down
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[15-Jun-2008 05:55:47] <dsaa> dear freinds i am new to zenoss i have just installed it now how do i start it
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[16-Jun-2008 08:31:52] <MidRange> Hi all, i am still having problems where the total size of the disks in my servers is reported but the used bytes, free bytes and % utilization is not
[16-Jun-2008 08:32:52] <MidRange> The HRFileSystemMap collector plugin is enabled and seems to run without error when I model a device but none of the disk info except total size is reported
[16-Jun-2008 09:16:59] <MidRange> is anyone around?
[16-Jun-2008 09:17:28] <nemo_> everyones busy working ,your questions are not priority
[16-Jun-2008 09:22:18] <MidRange> no problem
[16-Jun-2008 13:51:50] <indika> how to monitor OS process through shell cript
[16-Jun-2008 13:56:23] <indika> I found a shell script which monitoring listed OS process on linux server. It perfectly running for localhost. Is there any way to use it for remote server monitoring with zenoss
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[17-Jun-2008 00:38:50] <mechcozmo> hello
[17-Jun-2008 00:39:20] <mechcozmo> I keep getting the error "WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "memoryAvailableKBytes" on <<computer>> (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.2.0 is bad)"
[17-Jun-2008 00:40:02] <mechcozmo> it's a Win2K3 Enterprise box
[17-Jun-2008 00:40:07] <mechcozmo> with SNMP-Informant installed
[17-Jun-2008 01:47:21] <justnuts> i've been playing around with zenoss for the last 3-4days but cant get my head around snmp monitoring ...especially those not provided by zencore
[17-Jun-2008 01:47:34] <justnuts> there's not much info on the zenadminguide pdf
[17-Jun-2008 01:48:07] <justnuts> I hv install net-snmp on a windows box ..ii'm wondering how do u moniitor a process like sql 2005
[17-Jun-2008 01:48:17] <justnuts> lets say ..if it's running? backup is working? etc
[17-Jun-2008 01:55:12] <djs> justnuts: Personally, I would ask the people in #net-snmp ..
[17-Jun-2008 01:59:28] <justnuts> ok thx
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[17-Jun-2008 05:27:44] <theJam> Hi everyone
[17-Jun-2008 05:27:55] <theJam> quick question...
[17-Jun-2008 05:29:24] <theJam> I'm very involved in a few proprietary monitoring solutions (deployment, extension, administration) and I think I can offer alot to the zenoss community as I have been looking for an open solution as opposed to the very expensive tools I'm used to using.
[17-Jun-2008 05:30:00] <theJam> I'm proficient with Python and I think I can make a dent in some bugs or something, maybe some feature requests... is there anyone here contributing code to the project?
[17-Jun-2008 05:37:19] <theJamAbides> Is everyone asleep?
[17-Jun-2008 05:38:55] <theJamAbides> Anyway, if it's not a big deal to just get involved then I will do whatever it takes. I've been wanting to get involved with open source for awhile, and this project really intrigues me, mostly because of my background with monitoring tools anyway.
[17-Jun-2008 05:39:28] <theJamAbides> I'll stay up on what's happening and check the bug reports tomorrow to see if I can help!
[17-Jun-2008 11:27:06] <ccesario> hello
[17-Jun-2008 12:57:11] <mib_tp5mfy> I am having trouble loading mibs in Version 2.2...do not know why..3 installs in 3 different distros...here is a snippet of what happens..
[17-Jun-2008 12:57:15] <mib_tp5mfy> http://pastebin.com/m419cb948
[17-Jun-2008 12:57:32] <mib_tp5mfy> can anyone look at it and suggect something
[17-Jun-2008 13:39:29] <mib_tp5mfy> I am having trouble loading mibs in Version 2.2...do not know why..3 installs in 3 different distros...here is a snippet of what happens..
[17-Jun-2008 13:39:36] <mib_tp5mfy> http://pastebin.com/m419cb948
[17-Jun-2008 13:39:43] <mib_tp5mfy> can anyone look at it and suggest something
[17-Jun-2008 14:14:13] <MrTux> mib_tp5mfy: the file is -CONF your requesting .CONF
[17-Jun-2008 14:14:35] <mib_tp5mfy> what file is that?
[17-Jun-2008 14:15:01] <MrTux> zenmib run SNMPv2.CONF --debug is wrong, try zenmib run SNMPv2-CONF --debug
[17-Jun-2008 14:15:28] <mib_tp5mfy> hold please
[17-Jun-2008 14:17:08] <mib_tp5mfy> still trying
[17-Jun-2008 14:23:12] <exkev> someone have 1.0-RC1a-Embedded.gz?
[17-Jun-2008 14:23:26] <exkev> it seems to have vanished. I have 1.0.1 but it has a nasty bug
[17-Jun-2008 14:23:37] <exkev> (and I'm not ready to upgrade my clients to 1.2 w/o testing)
[17-Jun-2008 14:32:11] <mib_tp5mfy> MrTux: thanks that is not the problem...I am going for a reboot BRB
[17-Jun-2008 14:32:23] <exkev> ..or 1.0-RELEASE
[17-Jun-2008 14:58:52] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[17-Jun-2008 15:03:26] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[17-Jun-2008 15:17:56] <exkev> I have this issue on my 1.0-beta4, 1.0-rc and 1.0.1 boxes that after $randomTime the config partition gets corrupted
[17-Jun-2008 15:18:36] <exkev> is it writing that periodically (even w/o changes) and wearing out the flash?
[17-Jun-2008 15:39:43] <jb> on your 1.0-beta4?
[17-Jun-2008 15:39:48] <exkev> all three
[17-Jun-2008 15:39:54] <jb> why are you running 1.x?
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:00] <exkev> I haven't testede 1.2 yet
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:03] <jb> uhm
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:08] <jb> 2.2 is out
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:09] <exkev> I'm doing some voodoo
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:11] <jb> 1.x is ancient
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:19] <jb> and hasnt been supported in months
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:23] <exkev> creating tap0-4 and doing manual openvpn configs
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:29] <jb> this is #zenoss
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:34] <exkev> I don't need "support" I'm patching the thing anyway
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:38] <exkev> oh duh
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:40] <jb>
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:40] <exkev> wtf
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:45] <exkev> I did
[17-Jun-2008 15:40:52] <exkev> /join, but lost focus I guess
[17-Jun-2008 15:48:03] <exkev> while I'm in #zenoss, insert whine about how leaky and slow it is when I'm monitoring 55000 snmp oids and 750 devices.
[17-Jun-2008 15:49:05] <jb> on one box?
[17-Jun-2008 16:54:45] <MrTux> exkev: what did you patch? anything public available? i have even more devices and would be happy about anything making it faster and better
[17-Jun-2008 17:02:51] <mechcozmo> hello
[17-Jun-2008 17:03:11] <mechcozmo> I'm having some trouble with Zenoss and unreadable MIBs
[17-Jun-2008 17:03:39] <mechcozmo> er, oids
[17-Jun-2008 17:04:05] <mechcozmo> "Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on <<hostname>> (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)"
[17-Jun-2008 17:04:05] <mechcozmo> but, SNMP-Informant is installed
[17-Jun-2008 17:05:02] <mechcozmo> can anyone give any insight as to why I'm getting these messages?
[17-Jun-2008 17:07:01] <MrTux> mechcozmo: try getting the oid with snmpget, see if that works
[17-Jun-2008 17:07:13] <mechcozmo> it doesn't
[17-Jun-2008 17:07:44] <MrTux> so the system isn't having that oid
[17-Jun-2008 17:08:45] <mechcozmo> ok
[17-Jun-2008 17:09:13] <mechcozmo> so, then, how would I go about getting that oid reported?
[17-Jun-2008 17:18:09] <mib_toad> I am having trouble loading mibs, help please..
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:16] <mib_toad> take a look at this first
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:20] <mib_toad> http://pastebin.com/m2d356c1f
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:22] <MrTux> mechcozmo: sorry can't help you with this, i'm only monitoring network devices
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:48] <mib_toad> this version 2.2 running on CentOS 5.1
[17-Jun-2008 17:19:50] <mechcozmo> MrTux: thanks anyway
[17-Jun-2008 17:20:03] <MrTux> mib_toad: rename everything to an ending with .mib an the end and then use zenmib run *.mib
[17-Jun-2008 17:20:15] <MrTux> it doesn't find mibfiles without an fileending
[17-Jun-2008 17:20:44] <mib_toad> let me try that..
[17-Jun-2008 17:45:27] <ccesario> hi
[17-Jun-2008 17:45:41] <ccesario> I have "extend .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1 1 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/cacti_radius.sh" in my snmpd.conf
[17-Jun-2008 17:46:12] <ccesario> when I trey add this device in zenoss, the process dont finish
[17-Jun-2008 17:46:32] <ccesario> I thine that is executing the infinit loop
[17-Jun-2008 17:47:03] <ccesario> when I comment this line and re-run modeler, I get success in add device
[17-Jun-2008 17:47:57] <ccesario> this script only return one number
[17-Jun-2008 17:48:03] <MrTux> ccesario: try it with snmpget on the commandline if that works
[17-Jun-2008 17:48:23] <ccesario> MrTux, yes work
[17-Jun-2008 17:48:43] <ccesario> I already test, and I use it with cacti
[17-Jun-2008 17:56:49] <MrTux> ok, try asking in the forums, i cant you help any further..
[17-Jun-2008 18:06:51] <ccesario> thanks
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[17-Jun-2008 20:28:56] <RediXe> hello
[17-Jun-2008 20:31:04] <RediXe> Hopefully an easy answer, we get e-mails when things go down. It shows that it was sent from monitor.blah.com but the 4 links within the email link to http://monitor:8080 instead of monitor.blah.com:8080, any ideas?
[17-Jun-2008 20:39:52] <Lego> check your /etc/sysconfig/network
[17-Jun-2008 20:40:05] <Lego> make sure you got a FQDN
[17-Jun-2008 20:40:40] <RediXe> Okay, will give that a shot
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[17-Jun-2008 20:50:36] <RediXe> Lego: That seems to be for a different distro (redhat?) .. We're using Ubuntu.
[17-Jun-2008 20:52:08] <Lego> then check /etc/hostname
[17-Jun-2008 20:52:52] <RediXe> Shows monitor.blah.com
[17-Jun-2008 20:53:05] <Lego> and a FQDN in /etc/hosts?
[17-Jun-2008 20:53:50] <RediXe> Not real sure what FQDN is but going to say no since all there is is the monitor.blah.com
[17-Jun-2008 20:55:18] <RediXe> Quick search and it seems the monitor.blah.com would be considered a FQDN or no?
[17-Jun-2008 20:55:21] <Lego> fqdn is fully qualified domain name, ie the hostname + domain + suffix
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:09] <Lego> what happens when you type hostname -f?
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:14] <RediXe> hostname -f
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:18] <RediXe> lol
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:19] <RediXe> oops
[17-Jun-2008 20:56:30] <RediXe> sorry, not used to runny IRC in a terminal
[17-Jun-2008 20:57:13] <RediXe> shows "monitor.blah.com"
[17-Jun-2008 20:57:53] <Lego> hmmm, so your SYSTEM is resolving the name properly...
[17-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <RediXe> yes .. everything works fine. The emails that zenoss sends us shows that it is from ZENOSS@monitor.blah.com but the links within the email (Event Details:, Acknowledge:, etc) have links with only http://monitor.8080 instead of the http://monitor.blah.com:8080
[17-Jun-2008 20:59:46] <Lego> that's the end of my usefullness, I'm not a python guru, so i can't tell you if it's doing what it's supposed to do, i can only ell you the system is configured properly
[17-Jun-2008 21:00:08] <RediXe>
well thank you for trying to help me out[17-Jun-2008 21:00:43] <RediXe> I'm not the admin here just a helper tryiing to solve an issue for our admin.
[17-Jun-2008 22:37:21] <Lego> today is download firefox day! yay!
[17-Jun-2008 22:37:23] <Lego> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/
[17-Jun-2008 22:37:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Spread Firefox | Download Day 2008 (at www.spreadfirefox.com)
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[18-Jun-2008 00:20:33] <cdehaan> Hello! I have a question... I'm confused as to how exactly I can configure everything that's monitored for a given host (I have a bunch that are similar, but also a bunch that are one-offs on services). I don't want to create a Category for each one, but that seems to be the only way to customize the monitored items
[18-Jun-2008 02:56:15] <kso512> cdehaan: You could create a class like \Devices\One-offs that has only the basic monitors by default, then customize each one from there...
[18-Jun-2008 03:07:46] <cdehaan> kso512: Hm, that makes sense.
[18-Jun-2008 03:08:06] <cdehaan> Is there a way to clone a current device category and just remove what I don't need?
[18-Jun-2008 03:19:10] <kso512> cdehaan: Sure - go to the new class and copy the one you want to it...
[18-Jun-2008 03:19:20] <kso512> cdehaan: Let me see exactly how to do it...
[18-Jun-2008 03:21:43] <kso512> cdehaan: My mistake, it's the other way around. After you create your new class, go to the class you want to base it on, then go to the Templates tab.
[18-Jun-2008 03:22:09] <kso512> cdehaan: ...then click on the drop-down and select Copy Templates...
[18-Jun-2008 03:22:28] <kso512> cdehaan: Then it should pop up a little window asking where you want to copy to.
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[18-Jun-2008 10:37:33] <Comradin> hiho
[18-Jun-2008 11:44:41] <Comradin> Ive got a zenoss 2.2.0 rpm installation I have to migrate to a second box where I had to use the bin installer due to mysql restrictions.
[18-Jun-2008 11:45:18] <Comradin> I tried to restore a backup, but there are lots of path issues with those two installations
[18-Jun-2008 11:45:34] <Comradin> I always ended up with a messed up installation
[18-Jun-2008 11:46:18] <Comradin> is there a way to export my devices from the 'old' installation?
[18-Jun-2008 11:47:15] <Comradin> if I try to export / import the events database I have no devices they are connected to
[18-Jun-2008 11:56:48] <MrTux> Comradin: zendump and zenload
[18-Jun-2008 12:06:49] <Comradin> thanks, Ill try that
[18-Jun-2008 12:09:40] <Comradin> do I have to use this as user zenoss?
[18-Jun-2008 12:15:07] <Comradin> http://pastebin.ca/1050080
[18-Jun-2008 12:15:15] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Comradin - post number 1050080 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jun-2008 12:15:34] <Comradin> whow, nice one
[18-Jun-2008 12:27:56] <DarkMats> Wow! I'm glad i don't live in USA... 140$ for 50Mbps internet! I pay about 40$ for 50Mbps...
[18-Jun-2008 12:41:51] <monrad> DarkMats: 50/50 or?
[18-Jun-2008 12:42:18] <Comradin> hmm, tried to reinstall the zenoss-core-zenpacks for release 2.2.0 but I get more those stacktraces complaining about the ApacheMonitorDataSource
[18-Jun-2008 12:48:44] <Comradin> another link for the bot
[18-Jun-2008 12:48:47] <Comradin> http://pastebin.ca/1050092
[18-Jun-2008 12:48:55] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Comradin - post number 1050092 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jun-2008 13:08:47] <DarkMats> monrad: Don't know what they were talking about in the states, but 50/50 for me
[18-Jun-2008 13:10:53] <monrad> we only have 40/40 and costs around $100
[18-Jun-2008 13:42:56] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[18-Jun-2008 14:08:00] <ZUsr> Does any one have idea on how to monitor html and xml pages through Zenoss
[18-Jun-2008 14:10:22] <DarkMats> ZUsr: can't you do it with httpMonitor zenpack?
[18-Jun-2008 14:19:19] <nemo_> what do the docs say ZUsr ?
[18-Jun-2008 14:48:41] <ZUsr> i could monitor a website using httpMonitor
[18-Jun-2008 14:49:23] <ZUsr> but if i need to monitor a webpage like www.xxx.xx.com/main.html
[18-Jun-2008 14:49:30] <ZUsr> how could i do that
[18-Jun-2008 14:53:55] <nemo_> what do the docs say ZUsr ?
[18-Jun-2008 14:55:54] <ZUsr> they say we can use the check_http command
[18-Jun-2008 14:56:26] <ZUsr> but i could i configure in Zenoss UI
[18-Jun-2008 14:56:48] <ZUsr> for individual
[18-Jun-2008 14:56:52] <ZUsr> webpages
[18-Jun-2008 14:58:20] <nemo_> check_httpd sounds like a nagios plugin
[18-Jun-2008 14:58:27] <ZUsr> yes
[18-Jun-2008 14:58:36] <nemo_> so go for that
[18-Jun-2008 14:59:29] <ZUsr> i ahve the command but how should i add it to the Zenoss system for monitoring the webpage
[18-Jun-2008 15:00:12] <nemo_> sounds like you need to read the docs
[18-Jun-2008 15:00:23] <ZUsr> here's the command check_http -H google.com -t 120 -u /index.html -s "Google"
[18-Jun-2008 15:00:42] <nemo_> i already know how to do it ;p
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:02] <ZUsr> so could you pls help me out
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:21] <nemo_> well if you read the docs, you dont need to ask me ;o)
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:33] <nemo_> but i will point out that going to settings->commands is a good start
[18-Jun-2008 15:01:49] <nemo_> ( to add a nagios style command that is )
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:08] <ZUsr> thanks for the info
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:13] <ZUsr> and your time
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:27] <nemo_> np, seriously tho, the admin guide has it all
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:36] <ZUsr> ya i know
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:43] <nemo_> the above isnt where to place nagios plugs
[18-Jun-2008 15:02:49] <nemo_> just a handy way to test commands
[18-Jun-2008 15:03:57] <mrayzenoss> thanks nemo_
[18-Jun-2008 15:04:54] <nemo_> for making ppl read the docs ?
[18-Jun-2008 15:05:03] <nemo_> i am sure it will make me win the popularity contest ;p
[18-Jun-2008 15:05:26] <mrayzenoss> well, politely pointing out where things are is much nicer than some alternatives
[18-Jun-2008 15:06:04] <mrayzenoss> I don't have the cycles to hang out here enough, so I appreciate seeing helpful answers
[18-Jun-2008 15:07:16] <nemo_>
np[18-Jun-2008 17:52:03] <ghettodev> anyone here had any problems trying to load a mib called SNMPv2-TC?
[18-Jun-2008 17:52:37] <ghettodev> seems to have been a lot of people in the forums talking about but not much in the way of resolution
[18-Jun-2008 18:25:31] <mib_naruto> I have a test to run on a device that is setup to send traps....How do I get that system to send me a trap for me catch in my event log?
[18-Jun-2008 18:27:57] <mib_naruto> I do not have admin access to the device so I can not make it send traps on demand
[18-Jun-2008 18:30:13] <ccesario> hello, its possible monitor one custom snmp oid ?
[18-Jun-2008 18:31:49] <mib_naruto> I believe you can...search the forums....for "interesting oids"
[18-Jun-2008 18:34:14] <ccesario> thanks mib_naruto
[18-Jun-2008 19:33:25] <ccesario> mib_naruto, I create one template
[18-Jun-2008 19:34:28] <ccesario> with my OID, when I test it in templates page I get sucess
[18-Jun-2008 19:34:32] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "122"
[18-Jun-2008 19:34:33] <ccesario> DONE in 1 seconds
[18-Jun-2008 19:35:24] <ccesario> But, in my devices, when I re-model the device, I get this message in events page
[18-Jun-2008 19:35:50] <ccesario> Error reading value for "radius_users" on 192.168.10.12 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1 is bad)
[18-Jun-2008 19:36:41] <ccesario> any idea ?
[18-Jun-2008 19:42:14] <ccesario> mib_naruto, and snmpwalk too works
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[19-Jun-2008 00:41:31] <ccesario_> hello
[19-Jun-2008 00:41:47] <ccesario_> somebody there ?
[19-Jun-2008 03:24:32] <justnuts> found out that there is a zen agent... is this available / still in dev?
[19-Jun-2008 03:25:30] <justnuts> some of our servers are behind "high security area" and we can't remote monitor them .. no tunnel is allowed ..hence i'm looking for an agent
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[19-Jun-2008 06:17:17] <indika> Someone posted a shell script on mail list for monitoring listed OS process on linux server. It perfectly running for localhost. Is there any way to use it for remote server monitoring with zenoss
[19-Jun-2008 09:06:34] <nemo_> indika_, have you read the docs ( yes there is )
[19-Jun-2008 09:09:32] <indika_> nemo_, yes I tried with http example in doc
[19-Jun-2008 09:09:39] <indika_> It works..
[19-Jun-2008 09:09:57] <indika_> But my script don't take any arguments
[19-Jun-2008 09:10:42] <nemo_> Is there any way to use it for remote server monitoring with zenoss
[19-Jun-2008 09:10:51] <nemo_> that doesnt sound like someone who read the docs to me
[19-Jun-2008 09:11:24] <nemo_> i got no time to baby sit anyone, my advice: RTFM
[19-Jun-2008 09:13:36] <indika_> I need to use this script work to remoter servers http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21355#21355
[19-Jun-2008 09:13:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - [SOLVED] how to monitor OS process (at community.zenoss.com)
[19-Jun-2008 10:22:47] <choudesh> Hello - anyone around?
[19-Jun-2008 10:40:19] <ccesario> hello
[19-Jun-2008 10:40:57] <ccesario> I create one template, to get value from my "custom OID", but I getting error :/
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:06] <ccesario> Error reading value for "radius_users" on 192.168.10.12 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1 is bad)
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:27] <ccesario> but when I test it in templates page I get sucess
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:35] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "122"
[19-Jun-2008 10:41:59] <ccesario> somebody have any idea about fix this ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:26:15] <ccesario> hello ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:08] <nemo_> google on "Error reading value for"
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:15] <adytum-bot> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2008/015142.html
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:16] <nemo_> whats wrong with everyone who uses this channel ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:23] <nemo_> GOOGLE is your friend
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:31] <adytum-bot> http://www.maui.net/~zen_gtr/zgzinepg4.html
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:34] <ccesario> nemo_, I already search
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:50] <nemo_> its been discussed to death here
[19-Jun-2008 11:28:55] <ccesario> and I already tested with snmpwalk
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:00] <ccesario> as google suggest
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:03] <ccesario> and works
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:10] <ccesario> :/
[19-Jun-2008 11:29:16] <nemo_> your oid is an index.
[19-Jun-2008 11:31:40] <ccesario> nemo_, hmmm ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:31:54] <nemo_> sorry no time ccesario
[19-Jun-2008 11:32:14] <ccesario> snmpwalk -v 2c -c public 192.168.10.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1
[19-Jun-2008 11:32:14] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "47"
[19-Jun-2008 11:32:31] <ccesario> is wrong ?
[19-Jun-2008 11:45:54] <flo3455> hi there! is someone here motivated to answer a short question about zenoss?
[19-Jun-2008 11:50:12] <tarjei> flo3455: don't ask to ask. It is better to ask and if someone can answer, they will.
[19-Jun-2008 11:50:20] <ccesario> nemo_, solution ? :/
[19-Jun-2008 11:54:31] <nemo_> solution is i am too busy
[19-Jun-2008 12:06:36] <flo3455> oukay
I receive data from a self written zenpack. all works fine, exept the updating of the data. it only updates while remodeling (every 6h), but not while the normal cycle (1min). What did I forget?[19-Jun-2008 12:07:14] <flo3455> (the zenpack gets the state of windws services through SNMP instead of WMI)
[19-Jun-2008 12:52:24] <ccesario> hello ?
[19-Jun-2008 12:52:51] <ccesario> Error reading value for....... somebody have any idea ?
[19-Jun-2008 12:58:00] <malbon> hola all.
[19-Jun-2008 12:58:13] <malbon> Anyone using the zenpop3 daemon?
[19-Jun-2008 13:02:04] <malbon> ccesario: is that on SNMP?
[19-Jun-2008 13:03:29] <ccesario> malbon, yes
[19-Jun-2008 13:03:57] <ccesario> with snmpwalk work... and in zenoss test page work....
[19-Jun-2008 13:03:57] <malbon> ccesario: they're in blue right?
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:03] <ccesario> yes yes
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:07] <ccesario> blue blue blue
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:08] <ccesario> ehehehe
[19-Jun-2008 13:04:28] <malbon> ccesario: that means that zenoss cannot get the exact mib it is asking for. ie the device doesn't expose it.
[19-Jun-2008 13:06:14] <ccesario> hmmm, but how to solve it ?
[19-Jun-2008 13:06:31] <malbon> are you looking at Windows boxes?
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:24] <ccesario> malbon, no no
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:29] <ccesario> linux
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:52] <malbon> then you need to configure your net-snmp
[19-Jun-2008 13:08:54] <ccesario> malbon, is a simple script to return the total users un my radius
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:06] <ccesario> malbon, but i'm using this in cacti
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:16] <ccesario> I dont know if is the same method
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:22] <ccesario> but this works in cacti
[19-Jun-2008 13:09:37] <malbon> ok sounds like your template is slightly wrong
[19-Jun-2008 13:10:33] <ccesario> malbon, I'm testing this in my server test.... if you can view I can give access t you
[19-Jun-2008 13:10:43] <malbon> so in the case you have above you would need to use the oid ".1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.4.1.2.1.49.1"
[19-Jun-2008 13:11:21] <malbon> nope sorry, the company I work for doesn't allow for such things.
[19-Jun-2008 13:11:35] <malbon> the key with this sort of problem is not using snmpwalk but snmpget
[19-Jun-2008 13:11:57] <malbon> you need to get a specific value, once you've got that working, you're cooking with gas.
[19-Jun-2008 13:12:12] <ccesario> ok
[19-Jun-2008 13:12:20] <ccesario> malbon, let me change it
[19-Jun-2008 13:12:23] <ccesario> 2 min pls
[19-Jun-2008 13:13:25] <malbon> I gotta meeting in 2... so I may not be around long enough for you to test.
[19-Jun-2008 13:15:23] <ccesario> malbon, changed and re-model device
[19-Jun-2008 13:30:26] <ckrough> \quit
[19-Jun-2008 13:33:43] <jb> anybody here using enterprise 2.2?
[19-Jun-2008 13:51:13] <ccesario> malbon, I removed the device and create it
[19-Jun-2008 13:51:39] <ccesario> and I dont see the event with "bad oid"
[19-Jun-2008 13:52:29] <ccesario> but too I dont see the result in nothing local in device list
[19-Jun-2008 13:52:30] <ccesario> eheheh
[19-Jun-2008 13:55:41] <ccesario> malbon, ooooops
[19-Jun-2008 13:55:55] <ccesario> Error reading value for "radius_users" on 192.168.10.1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.4.1.2.1.49.1 is bad)
[19-Jun-2008 14:49:56] <malbon> ccesario: in that case your oid is bad.
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:14] <malbon> ccesario: try using snmpget to get it and find the exact value to plumb in.
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:45] <ccesario> snmpget -v 2c -c public 192.168.10.1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.4.1.2.1.49.1
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:51] <ccesario> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extEntry.4.1.2.1.49.1 = STRING: "57"
[19-Jun-2008 14:50:54] <ccesario>
[19-Jun-2008 14:51:42] <malbon> ccesario: ???? ok that shouldn't happen.
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:06] <ccesario> yes yes
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:19] <ccesario> let me remove all devices that have this OID
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:24] <ccesario> and restart services
[19-Jun-2008 14:52:31] <ccesario> onde moment to test it
[19-Jun-2008 15:11:39] <EekZ`> hi
[19-Jun-2008 15:35:29] <MoreDakka> Hey Everyone.
[19-Jun-2008 15:36:26] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 15:39:00] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[19-Jun-2008 16:10:21] <RediXe> Is there anyway to change the contents of the e-mail alerts you get when something has an error?
[19-Jun-2008 16:16:01] <MoreDakka> Settings -> Users -> Select User -> Alerting Rules -> Select Alerting Rule -> Message
[19-Jun-2008 16:19:15] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 16:19:17] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[19-Jun-2008 16:31:55] <RediXe> MoreDakka: Thanks
... is there a way to change the %(*Url)s ? ... having an issue where the email contents show links to the details/acknowledge/Delete/Device Events with only http://monitor:8080/**** instead of http://monitor.domain.com:8080/*****[19-Jun-2008 16:32:43] <MoreDakka> I think that's the hostname of the machine then.....not 100% sure where to change that (has been brought up a million times though).
[19-Jun-2008 16:33:45] <RediXe> Well, Lego helped me yesterday and we checked the host name and it's all correct
[19-Jun-2008 16:37:42] <MoreDakka> Ah, there is a zenoss conf file you need to edit...which one...can't remember gimme a min.
[19-Jun-2008 16:38:47] <MoreDakka> $ZENHOME/etc/zenactions.conf
[19-Jun-2008 16:38:55] <MoreDakka> zopeurl http://your.server.here:8080
[19-Jun-2008 16:39:01] <MoreDakka> Yay for google.
[19-Jun-2008 16:40:03] <RediXe> lol, thanks. I will try to find that. I been googling forever but make just using the wrong search phrase
[19-Jun-2008 16:51:08] <MoreDakka> Now I just need help with my wmi issue >:-|
[19-Jun-2008 16:52:52] <Shurick> hi all
[19-Jun-2008 16:52:55] <Shurick> anyone alive?
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:17] <RediXe> Nope, it's pretty quiet around here.
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:27] <Shurick> have a small problem with zenoss
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:40] <Shurick> in os->filesystems it shows mounted fs
[19-Jun-2008 16:53:43] <Shurick> and size
[19-Jun-2008 16:54:02] <Shurick> but no data for Used bytes, Free bytes etc
[19-Jun-2008 16:54:21] <Shurick> i've checked forum and found nothing
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:22] <ccesario> malbon, Its working!
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:48] <ccesario> I removed all and restart zenoss services and re-create devices
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:49] <ccesario>
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:51] <ccesario> cool!
[19-Jun-2008 17:00:54] <ccesario> thanks
[19-Jun-2008 17:01:06] <genioreal> hi... when i install zenoss i have to install it on /usr/local the *.tar.gz or it can work fine on /home/ ? i mean for the export of the ZENHOME on the manual
[19-Jun-2008 17:11:24] <Shurick> bad ... it seems that zenoss uses only HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize
[19-Jun-2008 17:11:32] <Shurick> but not HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed
[19-Jun-2008 17:12:04] <Shurick> according to HRFileSystemMap.py
[19-Jun-2008 17:12:32] <Shurick> what is the name of collector that check free space also
[19-Jun-2008 17:13:22] <Shurick> or uses UCD-SNMP-MIB::dskAvail, UCD-SNMP-MIB::dskUsed etc. to get filesystem info?
[19-Jun-2008 17:26:07] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 17:26:12] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[19-Jun-2008 18:33:40] <cgibbons> hmm
[19-Jun-2008 18:34:14] <cgibbons> it doesn't see it go down at all, MoreDakka, or just not within a short enough time-frame?
[19-Jun-2008 18:57:11] <MoreDakka> cgibbons: It doesn't see it at all.
[19-Jun-2008 18:57:22] <MoreDakka> I think I stopped the server about 3 hours ago.
[19-Jun-2008 18:57:27] <MoreDakka> server == service
[19-Jun-2008 19:01:07] <MoreDakka> Well that's weird. The zen.zenwin log shows me that the service stopped but didn't create an alert or show me in the OS screen of the device.
[19-Jun-2008 19:02:18] <cgibbons> huh
[19-Jun-2008 19:03:29] <MoreDakka> In zenoss if you click on the device then go to OS tab the service still shows as up and the device status as green but the zenwin log shows WARNING zen.zenwin: monitoring.mydomain.com: WinHttpAutoProxySvc stopped
[19-Jun-2008 19:23:28] <cgibbons> lemme see what happens when I do it here
[19-Jun-2008 19:23:35] <cgibbons> what template are you using for that device, btw?
[19-Jun-2008 19:24:20] <MoreDakka> /device/windows
[19-Jun-2008 19:26:25] <MoreDakka> sorry /devices/server/windows
[19-Jun-2008 21:19:11] <malbon> ccesario: no prob.
[19-Jun-2008 21:19:35] <malbon> ccesario: The daemons themselves would have sorted it out if left for an hour or so.
[19-Jun-2008 21:21:43] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[19-Jun-2008 21:21:46] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
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[20-Jun-2008 04:53:31] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 04:53:34] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[20-Jun-2008 07:40:00] <schojo> good morning
[20-Jun-2008 07:48:54] <Shurick> morning
[20-Jun-2008 08:06:10] <schojo> is it correct that zenoss comes with no mibs at all?
[20-Jun-2008 08:08:34] <Shurick> dunno, seems you may imports them, but it's useless for querying ...
[20-Jun-2008 08:31:29] <schojo> in what way?
[20-Jun-2008 08:32:04] <Shurick> mibs->add mib
[20-Jun-2008 08:51:31] <schojo> -_-
[20-Jun-2008 08:51:35] <schojo> thanks a lot
[20-Jun-2008 10:30:01] <ccesario> morning!
[20-Jun-2008 10:35:41] <ccesario> malbon, there ?
[20-Jun-2008 11:55:49] <Comradin> hiho
[20-Jun-2008 12:58:47] <Comradin> Is there some kind of best-practice doc on how to setup servers in the interface?
[20-Jun-2008 12:59:01] <Comradin> am currently struggling with my devices and the services they provide
[20-Jun-2008 12:59:17] <Comradin> and how to group them
[20-Jun-2008 13:02:34] <Comradin> made the error with trying to get a server into more than one device group
[20-Jun-2008 13:02:46] <Comradin> trying to group them by the services they provide
[20-Jun-2008 13:24:32] <MoreDakka> Sooooo...I've been trying WhatsUp Gold lately because it likes WMI and will show me when services are down (like W32Time) or whatever. I had this problem with all the versions of Zenoss so far but thought I would try 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 13:24:33] <MoreDakka> It still finds all the services no problem but when I kill a service that I'm monitoring nothing happens, zenoss doesn't see that the service has dropped. Anyone else have this issue?
[20-Jun-2008 13:37:12] <cgibbons> im still hoping to test this for you this morning & look into it further, MoreDakka. hopefully
[20-Jun-2008 13:53:50] <MoreDakka> Ah...heh, good to see you...thought I lost you yesterday ;-)
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:17] <MoreDakka> Well it's weird. Now, without any changes, zenoss has started alerting and showing the services as down.
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:42] <MoreDakka> Does a device have to be in zenoss for a certain amount of time before it will start reporting on services?
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:53] <Comradin> Ouch, tried to delete an alerting rule and got this error:
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:54] <Comradin> Type: ConflictError
[20-Jun-2008 13:54:56] <Comradin> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x6c5e, class Products.ZenEvents.ActionRule.ActionRule)
[20-Jun-2008 13:55:58] <cgibbons> no, although depending upon what state the zenoss daemons were in one might have needed to be restarted (zenhub especially needs to be updated after upgrades, etc.)
[20-Jun-2008 13:56:37] <MoreDakka> This is a fresh VM Appliance download with only the one device in it.
[20-Jun-2008 13:57:16] <Comradin> just did a restart of the services
[20-Jun-2008 13:57:27] <Comradin> lets have a look what will happen now
[20-Jun-2008 13:57:39] <MoreDakka> On a windows box?
[20-Jun-2008 13:58:06] <MoreDakka> Zenoss actually sent me my first alerts yesterday at 9pmish.
[20-Jun-2008 13:58:42] <cgibbons> ok that's even weirder then hmm
[20-Jun-2008 13:58:54] <cgibbons> im downloading the latest appliance now just to see if i can recreate that
[20-Jun-2008 13:59:58] <MoreDakka> when I killed the services the first time (after enabling monitoring on those services) at about 9am
[20-Jun-2008 14:00:07] <MoreDakka> So about a 12 hour window for the first alerts of notifications.
[20-Jun-2008 14:00:23] <MoreDakka> But now when I stop a service I get a message within a couple minutes.
[20-Jun-2008 14:00:48] <MoreDakka> Oh btw thanks for your help ;-)
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:01] <cgibbons> only 185 KB/s on this download *twiddle thumbs*
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:14] <MoreDakka> ahha
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:20] <ccesario> hey.... I create one template in /devices but I only that selected hosts usage this template..... how to I make this ?
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:23] <MoreDakka> Yeah I like my cable at home.
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:40] <ccesario> my all hosts is tryning usage this template O_o
[20-Jun-2008 14:03:51] <MoreDakka> because you created that template in the devices directory.
[20-Jun-2008 14:04:16] <MoreDakka> create a sub class
[20-Jun-2008 14:04:30] <MoreDakka> and put the devices that you want to use that template in there and assign that template to that sub-class
[20-Jun-2008 14:05:24] <ccesario> hmmmm
[20-Jun-2008 14:05:33] <ccesario> thanks MoreDakka
[20-Jun-2008 14:06:17] <MoreDakka> Yep. If you change the template in the /Devices class every device that is assigned the / class will use that template.
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:04] <Shurick> ok, so if some are alive please help a bit
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:18] <Shurick> zenoss doens't show free space
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:23] <Shurick> only total. via snmp
[20-Jun-2008 14:09:54] <MoreDakka> I'm alive but snmp troubleshooting is not my strong point...srry
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:09] <Shurick> i've checked script - it doesn't get .6 oid where free space is kept for each partition
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:22] <cgibbons> windows devices, shurick?
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:28] <Shurick> no. freebsd
[20-Jun-2008 14:10:47] <cgibbons> lesee if we have any of those loaded up here
[20-Jun-2008 14:11:47] <cgibbons> which template are those devices using?
[20-Jun-2008 14:11:57] <cgibbons> 95% on that download - moredakka
[20-Jun-2008 14:11:57] <Shurick> script (according to its source) get values like HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageDescr.1 and HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.1
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:14] <Shurick> but doesn't get values from HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed.1
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:19] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming they should be in /Devices/server/linux right?
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:27] <Shurick> no
[20-Jun-2008 14:12:57] <Shurick> script used is zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[20-Jun-2008 14:14:01] <Shurick> i can modify and add '.6': 'usedBlocks' after '.5': 'totalBlocks'
[20-Jun-2008 14:14:37] <Shurick> but i'm not sure if 'usedBlocks' will be right name for zenoss to understand it and fill values in db correctly
[20-Jun-2008 14:15:20] <Shurick> btw, how large your db and perf data are?
[20-Jun-2008 14:15:52] <Shurick> i've have ~500 devices and one day monitoring eats ~200mb of space
[20-Jun-2008 14:17:58] <cgibbons> hey mat
[20-Jun-2008 14:18:03] <cgibbons> matt, even
[20-Jun-2008 14:19:33] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[20-Jun-2008 14:20:12] <jb> mornin..
[20-Jun-2008 14:32:38] <Sopapa> hi
[20-Jun-2008 14:32:42] <Sopapa> anyone there?
[20-Jun-2008 14:33:06] <Comradin> no, we're all asleep
[20-Jun-2008 14:33:27] <Sopapa> what time is there
[20-Jun-2008 14:33:32] <cgibbons> well that figures, my vmware locked up
[20-Jun-2008 14:34:54] <Sopapa> a quick question, i create a custom schema with a name cVLAN, then i modify my template for devicestatus
[20-Jun-2008 14:35:12] <Sopapa> i wanna fill the cVLAN value with a datapoint, is that possible?
[20-Jun-2008 14:35:33] <MoreDakka> haha
[20-Jun-2008 14:36:01] <Sopapa> i modify my template for show the custom schema
[20-Jun-2008 14:36:33] <Sopapa> but how i fill the cVLAN value with a snmp query?
[20-Jun-2008 14:37:58] <Sopapa> i cant find that in the docs
[20-Jun-2008 14:40:15] <cgibbons> looks like i get to reboot, brb
[20-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <Sopapa> some can help?
[20-Jun-2008 14:45:20] <Comradin> I guess you have to do your own query?
[20-Jun-2008 14:45:58] <Sopapa> yea a create a a template for query data,
[20-Jun-2008 14:46:13] <Sopapa> then i query how many vlan i have in a hub
[20-Jun-2008 14:46:23] <Sopapa> and i wanna show in the status page
[20-Jun-2008 14:46:41] * Comradin is a zenoss noob fighting with the documentation
[20-Jun-2008 14:48:06] <Sopapa> i wanna associate that query (i make a datapoint) with the custom schema field
[20-Jun-2008 14:48:11] <Sopapa> i donw know how
[20-Jun-2008 14:58:25] <Sopapa> well.... so noone can help me..?
[20-Jun-2008 17:16:35] <xxkozxx> Anyone here available for a quick question?
[20-Jun-2008 17:20:41] <xxkozxx> hello?
[20-Jun-2008 17:20:45] <xxkozxx> anyone here?
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:09] <nemo_> irc != support
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:14] <nemo_> talk and ppl might answer
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:23] <nemo_> if they know something.
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:34] <nemo_> reading the docs before asking questions is the best idea
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenwinmodeler stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zeneventlog stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenwin stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenprocess stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:48] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zencommand stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:49] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenperfsnmp stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:51] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenmodeler stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:53] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zentrap already stopped
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:55] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenactions stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:57] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenstatus stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:21:59] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zensyslog stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:01] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenping stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:03] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zenhub stopping...
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:05] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zopectl . . daemon process stopped
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:07] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zeoctl . daemon process stopped
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:09] <xxkozxx> er......
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:11] <xxkozxx> wrong past
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:13] <xxkozxx> I'm having a problem with zentrap
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:15] <xxkozxx> the daemon wont start
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:16] <nemo_> can i suggest a tool like pastebin ?
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:31] <nemo_> are you doing this as root ?
[20-Jun-2008 17:22:33] <xxkozxx> I read the forums and checked netstat
[20-Jun-2008 17:23:00] <xxkozxx> I have nothing else listening on that port
[20-Jun-2008 17:23:02] <nemo_> that script should be run as the user zenoss
[20-Jun-2008 17:23:12] <nemo_> su - zenoss ; zenoss restart
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:06] <xxkozxx> ok...sorry I am trying that now.
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:13] <xxkozxx> I'm a little new to this product
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:28] <nemo_> you might need to repair some permissions if files are now owned by root etc
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:37] <xxkozxx> Daemon: zentrap starting...
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:37] <xxkozxx> ZenSocket Error: Unable to bind to listen port (error code 98)
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:41] <xxkozxx> thats what I get
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:45] <nemo_> yes i understand, we all made the same mistakes ;p thats why i remember them
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:46] <xxkozxx> but only for zentrap
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:55] <nemo_> do you trap anything ?
[20-Jun-2008 17:24:59] <xxkozxx> everything else runs just fine
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:02] <nemo_> i would not worry about zentrap for now
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:21] <xxkozxx> ok.......another question......
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:42] <nemo_> i am going home
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:43] <xxkozxx> I am assuming that if I want to upgrade to 2.2 that I would need the native RPM's?
[20-Jun-2008 17:25:46] <nemo_> read the manual
[20-Jun-2008 17:26:36] <nemo_> seriously all these things are discussed in the forums and documented
[20-Jun-2008 17:26:43] <nemo_> there are much bigger problems to solve !
[20-Jun-2008 17:26:47] <nemo_> bye for now
[20-Jun-2008 17:27:07] <xxkozxx> yeah thanks
[20-Jun-2008 17:27:49] <xxkozxx> great
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:02] <xxkozxx> wonderfull attitude....
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:10] <xxkozxx> makes me want to buy the enterprise edition
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:19] <xxkozxx> whatever........
[20-Jun-2008 17:28:21] <xxkozxx> exit
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:26] <xxkozxx> I need help with an RPM install failing
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:39] <xxkozxx> Here is what I am getting and I can't find documentation on this anywhere
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> warning: zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID aa5a1ad7
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> Cannot install rpm; Previous installation exists at /opt/zenoss
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> error: %pre(zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 255
[20-Jun-2008 17:46:49] <xxkozxx> error: install: %pre scriptlet failed (2), skipping zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0
[20-Jun-2008 17:47:12] <xxkozxx> I am upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 17:47:34] <xxkozxx> running on Fedora Core 6
[20-Jun-2008 17:47:41] <xxkozxx> Any ideas?
[20-Jun-2008 17:48:15] <xxkozxx> I found two forum entries with the same problem but no resolution posted
[20-Jun-2008 18:12:43] <Sopapa> hi?
[20-Jun-2008 18:12:56] <xxkozxx> hi
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:28] <Sopapa> cna you help me with a problem with my zenoss?
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:38] <xxkozxx> I'm just a user but I can try
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:43] <Sopapa> ok
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:44] <xxkozxx> depends on the problem
[20-Jun-2008 18:13:47] <Sopapa> ok
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:24] <Sopapa> i wanna create a custom field like for exmaple description is OS TAB and fill it with a snmp query
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:40] <xxkozxx> yeah that I can't help you with
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:42] <xxkozxx> sorry
[20-Jun-2008 18:14:50] <Sopapa> ok no problem thnks anyway
[20-Jun-2008 18:15:00] <xxkozxx> no problem
[20-Jun-2008 18:15:28] <Sopapa> the docs dont explain very good
[20-Jun-2008 18:15:48] <xxkozxx> yeah I know
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:00] <xxkozxx> I am trying to do an upgrade right now from 2.1
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:02] <xxkozxx> to 2.2
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:06] <xxkozxx> and can't get it to work
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:08] <Sopapa> je...
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:18] <Sopapa> this is my first installation
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:29] <Sopapa> so i cant help you
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:50] <xxkozxx> I hear ya
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:52] <Sopapa> but no ones talks here
[20-Jun-2008 18:16:54] <xxkozxx> How do you like it so far?
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:14] <xxkozxx> yeah earlier I got one person to talk and they were pretty rude about my questions
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:32] <Sopapa> i dont know why ...
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:36] <xxkozxx> As an IT Director it doesn't give me a warm fuzzy about buying their enterprise product
[20-Jun-2008 18:17:53] <xxkozxx> considering the product is decent and I could see a need to expand on it
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:06] <Sopapa> maybe because of that they be very rude
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:07] <xxkozxx> I am basically beta testing it right now to see where I want to go
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:20] <xxkozxx> yeah maybe
[20-Jun-2008 18:18:59] <Sopapa> you can try opennms
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:11] <Sopapa> its similar to zenoss i think
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:11] <xxkozxx> is that any good?
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:20] <xxkozxx> I might have to look into that.
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:39] <Sopapa> did you try nagios?
[20-Jun-2008 18:19:47] <xxkozxx> yeah but I didn't like it
[20-Jun-2008 18:22:15] <Sopapa> GroundWork ?
[20-Jun-2008 18:22:38] <Sopapa> zabixx its very good but its beta
[20-Jun-2008 18:26:33] <cgibbons> xxkozxx - on your RPM problem is that a fresh install or an upgrade?
[20-Jun-2008 18:26:52] <xxkozxx> upgrade
[20-Jun-2008 18:27:10] <cgibbons> were you doing a -i or a -U to rpm?
[20-Jun-2008 18:28:05] <xxkozxx> I followed
[20-Jun-2008 18:28:11] <xxkozxx> the documentation on the website
[20-Jun-2008 18:28:26] <xxkozxx> and it says to do rpm -Uvh
[20-Jun-2008 18:29:29] <cgibbons> k good, and your previous install was a zenoss-stack RPM or just a zenoss RPM?
[20-Jun-2008 18:29:39] <xxkozxx> just an RPM
[20-Jun-2008 18:30:28] <cgibbons> pretty sure the stack RPM can't be used to upgrade a stand-alone RPM, but lemme check on that real quick
[20-Jun-2008 18:30:34] <xxkozxx> k
[20-Jun-2008 18:30:48] <cgibbons> (stack includes all the dependencies like mysql, etc.)
[20-Jun-2008 18:31:17] <xxkozxx> well there is not an RPM download
[20-Jun-2008 18:31:20] <xxkozxx> they are all stacks
[20-Jun-2008 18:32:42] <cgibbons> i see the non-stack RPMs on the site, the 'compiled RPM' links
[20-Jun-2008 18:33:08] <cgibbons> at least on the www.zenoss.com/download site. you grab it from there or from sourceforge directly?
[20-Jun-2008 18:34:32] <xxkozxx> ok do you have a link to that because I am not seeing that
[20-Jun-2008 18:34:35] <cgibbons> sure
[20-Jun-2008 18:34:58] <cgibbons> what platform? rhel? centos?
[20-Jun-2008 18:35:04] <xxkozxx> fedora core
[20-Jun-2008 18:35:10] <xxkozxx> 6
[20-Jun-2008 18:36:18] <xxkozxx> and um...this may be a stupid question but how do you clean the .bin file install out?
[20-Jun-2008 18:36:51] <xxkozxx> I moved my old directory and tried the bin installer
[20-Jun-2008 18:37:03] <xxkozxx> and now its throwing all kinds of emacs keymap errors
[20-Jun-2008 18:37:18] <xxkozxx> I just want to get that out of there and install the RPM
[20-Jun-2008 18:37:50] <cgibbons> fedora core 6 is ~= as rhel 5, so you could grab the rpm for rhel 5 x86 - http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-2.2.0-0.el5.i386.rpm
[20-Jun-2008 18:39:28] <xxkozxx> Thank you very much!
[20-Jun-2008 18:39:56] <cgibbons> hope it works =)
[20-Jun-2008 18:40:11] <xxkozxx> Is there a way to remove the stack install?
[20-Jun-2008 18:40:22] <Sopapa> cgi remeber my question .. how to fill a custom field?
[20-Jun-2008 18:40:41] <cgibbons> yeah unfortunately i dunno how sopapa, i was browsing the manual myself trying to guess
[20-Jun-2008 18:41:21] <Sopapa> je ok thaks
[20-Jun-2008 18:42:04] <Sopapa> now i can use the custom shema value using here/cVLAN
[20-Jun-2008 18:42:30] <Sopapa> but nothing abuout set cVLan with snmp result
[20-Jun-2008 18:45:11] <Sopapa> i will ask the forum
[20-Jun-2008 19:56:55] <jb> 2.2.1 is available/
[20-Jun-2008 19:56:57] <jb> ?
[20-Jun-2008 20:19:27] <MoreDakka_> Anyone know why the emails from Zenoss are coming on time but the time in my inbox for them shows 5 hours ealier?
[20-Jun-2008 20:28:13] <cgibbons> sounds like exactly the time difference between Central and GMT right now
[20-Jun-2008 20:31:06] <MoreDakka_> The logs in zenoss, mail logs and the time in the message all show the message leaving the server at 1pm. However in my inbox they show up at 8am
[20-Jun-2008 21:28:38] <MoreDakka_> Can you lock users down so if you have lets say a client that wants to log in to view their systems, can you make it so they can only view a specific location or group and nothing else? Or ever just the dashboard with no menus?
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[23-Jun-2008 04:13:49] <[ID]-7101> 13hi guys~
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[23-Jun-2008 04:15:37] <wwhhtt> 12i need help on zenmib...
[23-Jun-2008 04:15:39] <wwhhtt> 12anyone?
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[23-Jun-2008 04:25:32] <wwhhtt> 12hi room~
[23-Jun-2008 06:33:11] * ToeiRei waves hello.
[23-Jun-2008 06:34:35] <wwhhtt> 4¶Ô 14ToeiRei 4˵ 12hi hi
[23-Jun-2008 06:34:49] <wwhhtt> 4¶Ô 6ToeiRei 4˵ 12r u using zenoss?
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:19] <ToeiRei> not yet, wwhhtt
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:35] <wwhhtt> 12oh
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:37] <wwhhtt> 12ok
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:47] <wwhhtt> 12i have some problem with it
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:51] <ToeiRei> I'm currently using nagios, but its config is a pain in the ass.
[23-Jun-2008 06:35:52] <wwhhtt> 12i was hoping u can help me
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:00] <wwhhtt> 12sure thing
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:00] <ToeiRei> well... got an error message?
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:10] <wwhhtt> 12i was using nagios too
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:14] <wwhhtt> 12and hated it
[23-Jun-2008 06:36:54] <wwhhtt> 12i was tring to use zenmib to load some mib files
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:04] <wwhhtt> 12and they all get skipped
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:48] <ToeiRei> what's the error message?
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:55] <ToeiRei> is there anything in a logfile?
[23-Jun-2008 06:37:56] <wwhhtt> 12no error
[23-Jun-2008 06:38:03] <wwhhtt> 12no...
[23-Jun-2008 06:38:42] <wwhhtt> 12normally after a mib file get loaded, i will have some Nodes & Notifications
[23-Jun-2008 06:38:56] <wwhhtt> 12with a list of all the OIDs
[23-Jun-2008 06:39:13] <wwhhtt> 12but at the moment i got 0 Nodes and 0 Notifications
[23-Jun-2008 06:39:33] <wwhhtt> 12even the zenmib said it's loaded sucessfully
[23-Jun-2008 06:42:02] <wwhhtt> 12i am using v 2.2 on a Fedora 7 box
[23-Jun-2008 06:42:14] <wwhhtt> 12it was all ok when i was using v 2.1.3
[23-Jun-2008 06:42:29] <ToeiRei> I'm on gentoo...
[23-Jun-2008 06:43:25] <Shurick> btw, is there any ideas how to get free space without *cmd* plugins? only with snmp queries? according to python script it check only total space for partitions
[23-Jun-2008 06:45:33] <Shurick> i mean plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[23-Jun-2008 07:12:37] <MrTux> hi
[23-Jun-2008 07:15:56] <wwhhtt> 12hi
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[23-Jun-2008 12:58:32] <nomego> heya guys
[23-Jun-2008 12:58:54] <nomego> we've been using nagios to monitor or clients' servers and devices, but are now trying out zenoss
[23-Jun-2008 12:59:18] <nomego> what would we need to do to monitor our clients' devices remotely with zenoss?
[23-Jun-2008 12:59:45] <nomego> would we need a collector installed at every client? would it have to run on linux?
[23-Jun-2008 13:00:42] <Shurcik> it may be possible to query running services remotely via snmp
[23-Jun-2008 13:00:57] <Shurcik> or to run some scripst remotely via ssh
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:11] <Shurcik> or install client agent on each node
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:21] <nomego> client agent?
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:37] <linash__> It does seams secure to allow snmp queries from outiside the network, but maybe with a VPN
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:48] <linash__> *dos not
[23-Jun-2008 13:01:57] <linash__> *does not
[23-Jun-2008 13:02:06] <nomego> could zenwin passively report back to the zenoss server through http(s)?
[23-Jun-2008 13:02:49] <Shurcik> lin, you can use snmp v3
[23-Jun-2008 13:04:05] <nomego> so is there an agent I can install on windows servers for them to report to a central server?
[23-Jun-2008 13:04:48] <Shurcik> for windows it uses wmi calls
[23-Jun-2008 13:04:55] <nomego> since there are so many clients with non-unique networks and diverse firewall equipment, VPN is pretty much out of the question
[23-Jun-2008 13:09:47] <linash__> nomego, the enterprise edition does allow a global dashboard from multiple zenoss instance (one being on your client's network) don't know the details though, Also I think It's possible to set up multiple collectors with the core version
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:08] <linash__> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:11] <nomego> but can I install a standalone collector (focus on small memory footprint/low resource usage) and only configure what hosts to collect from and where to send the data?
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:19] <nomego> thanks
[23-Jun-2008 13:11:27] <__adytum-bot> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Jun-2008 13:18:55] <nomego> hmm.. seems a little bit much to install a complete zenoss server on every client
[23-Jun-2008 13:52:41] <linash__> nomego, That's not it. You just need to install it one one machine in the network. It will pool the other. Fundamentally zenoss is an agent-less monitoring system it ideally uses only snmp or wmi
[23-Jun-2008 13:54:01] <nomego> Well, the networks aren't connected
[23-Jun-2008 13:54:51] <nomego> And I don't really have the computing power on the servers to put a zenoss server on a server on each client
[23-Jun-2008 13:54:59] <linash__> so you will need just 1 zenoss colector/server instance on the monitored network and make it report make to the main instance
[23-Jun-2008 13:55:23] <linash__> *it report back
[23-Jun-2008 13:56:28] <Shurcik> btw, someone solved the problem that zenoss doesn't show free space at target node? only total
[23-Jun-2008 13:56:47] <nomego> I was aiming to solve it as we have with nagios - just a service that scans the eventlogs, diskspace, etc and sends the results to a central server
[23-Jun-2008 13:57:12] <nomego> I don't plan on installing the 15 services and mysql on a server at each client
[23-Jun-2008 13:58:14] <linash__> nomego, is that not easier than setting up a service/nagios agent on each client?
[23-Jun-2008 13:58:46] <nomego> no
[23-Jun-2008 13:59:41] <nomego> and it really doesn't matter what's easier unless it differs by a lot, I just don't want to take that much resources from a server just for monitoring
[23-Jun-2008 14:00:06] <nomego> windows tend to use much resources by itself...
[23-Jun-2008 14:00:49] <linash__> nomego, if you just settup an snmp collector you won't need the full mysql server (just python on one machine)
[23-Jun-2008 14:03:38] <linash__> (that's my link was about)
[23-Jun-2008 14:04:20] <nomego> and how much resources does zope use?
[23-Jun-2008 14:05:52] <linash__> maybe 50MB and 10% cpu for less than 100 snmp node (maybe more if you use wmi)
[23-Jun-2008 14:06:24] <linash__> (I didn't try this configuration though)
[23-Jun-2008 14:08:11] <Shurcik> for ~1500 nodes it eats space very quickly
[23-Jun-2008 14:08:46] <linash__> Shurcik, even if you use a distant hub?
[23-Jun-2008 14:08:59] <Shurcik> i mean central server
[23-Jun-2008 14:09:05] <linash__> yeah
[23-Jun-2008 14:09:28] <linash__> the collector won't need much
[23-Jun-2008 14:09:37] <Shurcik> distant hub doesn't consume much resources
[23-Jun-2008 14:15:09] <linash__> Shurcik, you free space issue, was that on windows nodes? or linux?
[23-Jun-2008 14:17:48] <Shurcik> linux/freebsd/solaris/cisco
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:08] <linash__> zenoss 2.2?
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:30] <Shurcik> yep
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:47] <linash__> same issue here, then
[23-Jun-2008 14:19:51] <linash__> ;(
[23-Jun-2008 14:20:35] <Shurcik> what do you mean?
[23-Jun-2008 14:20:59] <linash__> only total on my test freebsdnode
[23-Jun-2008 14:21:18] <Shurcik> i've checked the corrsponding script
[23-Jun-2008 14:21:37] <Shurcik> it doesn't pull appropriate OIDs
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:10] <linash__> ok, do you know if this fixed in the svn version?
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:21] <Shurcik> dunno
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:48] <Shurcik> you may use cmd plugin that runs on the remote site via ssh
[23-Jun-2008 14:22:49] <linash__> ok, I'm checking the svn to see if things are better.
[23-Jun-2008 14:23:02] <Shurcik> and parses output of df -k command
[23-Jun-2008 14:23:46] <linash__> will not it be faster to correct the OID number?
[23-Jun-2008 14:24:33] <Shurcik> well, i know OIDs but doesn't know how zenoss will parse numbers internally
[23-Jun-2008 14:25:45] <Shurcik> check this subtree - .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1
[23-Jun-2008 14:26:13] <Shurcik> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.3.xxx contain mounted file systems
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:03] <Shurcik> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.5.xxx contain total space
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:17] <Shurcik> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6.xxx - contain free space
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:17] <linash__> ok, thx
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:34] <Shurcik> but python script checks only [1-5].xxx
[23-Jun-2008 14:27:38] <Shurcik> not 6.xxx
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:08] <linash__> Shurcik, where is the script/
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:11] <linash__> ?
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:29] <Shurcik> plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:36] <Shurcik> in zenoss directory
[23-Jun-2008 14:28:47] <Shurcik> zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[23-Jun-2008 14:29:43] <linash__> ok thx, I will look at it if its not fixed in svn. I will tell you if I find something
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:11] <Shurcik> check 'colums' array
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:23] <Shurcik> there're 1 to 5 numbers defined
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:29] <Shurcik> but not 6
[23-Jun-2008 14:30:41] <Shurcik> moreover
[23-Jun-2008 14:31:04] <Shurcik> there's one more OID subtree if ucd-snmp is running
[23-Jun-2008 14:31:40] <Shurcik> it's .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.9
[23-Jun-2008 14:32:43] <Shurcik> it has disk devices/partitions, total, used, percentage free values
[23-Jun-2008 14:41:58] <linash__> Shurcik, seams like the svn for this file hasn't changed for the last 3 months...
[23-Jun-2008 14:43:52] <Shurcik> bad
[23-Jun-2008 14:44:09] <Shurcik> i can add another member to array
[23-Jun-2008 14:44:25] <Shurcik> but has no idea what zenoss will do with new data
[23-Jun-2008 14:44:50] <Shurcik> can it understand how to store free space value?
[23-Jun-2008 14:45:00] <Shurcik> and where? and how to display it
[23-Jun-2008 14:45:42] <linash__> yeah, where is the ticket for this?
[23-Jun-2008 14:46:32] <Shurcik> from me? no ticket yet
i check zenoss forum deeply - may be someone already solve this[23-Jun-2008 14:59:18] <linash__> Shurcik, seams like my freebsd node was down when i checked the issue and now it works well for me!
[23-Jun-2008 15:00:37] <linash__> And it seams that HRFileSystemMap.py has nothing to do with it: it's configured in the template /Devices/Server/Templates/FileSystem
[23-Jun-2008 15:00:54] <Shurcik> hm ...
[23-Jun-2008 15:01:04] <Shurcik> what collector do i need to add?
[23-Jun-2008 15:02:41] <Shurcik> ok, i've already have nodes discovered. what and where should i add/change?
[23-Jun-2008 15:03:12] <linash__> are they in the /device/server class?
[23-Jun-2008 15:03:34] <linash__> (/device/server/linux)
[23-Jun-2008 15:04:22] <Shurcik> it's not linux, it's freebsd
[23-Jun-2008 15:04:22] <linash__> it's through manage/change class
[23-Jun-2008 15:04:41] <linash__> should work the same
[23-Jun-2008 15:05:02] <Shurcik> ok, moment, i'll move from discovered to server/linux
[23-Jun-2008 15:07:08] <linash__> but I did add the server/freebsd class myself. (the server/linux class does not contain any special template any way, just check that the binded collectors are the same)
[23-Jun-2008 15:08:31] <Shurcik> ok, freebsd is added now
[23-Jun-2008 15:08:58] <DarylVoip> Hi all - trying to get my firsr Nagios plug in working and having some trouble. I'm trying to use check_iax. It seems to work in the template that I made, and I applied it to the asterix box device node. It seems to work (or not even get applied) on one asterisk box, but it failing on the other 11. Any idea where I can get started on checking logs, etc.?
[23-Jun-2008 15:10:51] <Shurcik> ok, changed class to /servers/freebsd
[23-Jun-2008 15:11:26] <linash__> DarylVoip, see log/zencommand.log
[23-Jun-2008 15:11:45] <Shurcik> now box appears in freebsd class
[23-Jun-2008 15:12:27] <Shurcik> so i changed to box and select OS tab
[23-Jun-2008 15:12:35] <linash__> and???
[23-Jun-2008 15:12:37] <Shurcik> no filesystems are present
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:39] <Shurcik> should i choose menu->more->collector plugins?
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:53] <DarylVoip> Hmmm....DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Command: '/bin/sh -c exec /usr/local/zenoss/common/libexec/check_iax -H 10.190.0.169 -p 30 -w 1'
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:54] <DarylVoip> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Output: 'Unknown error \n'
[23-Jun-2008 15:13:54] <Shurcik> or file systems->add filesystem?
[23-Jun-2008 15:14:00] <DarylVoip> OK...that give me more info at least.
[23-Jun-2008 15:14:39] <linash__> Shurcik, see if you have the same collectors as the linux class
[23-Jun-2008 15:16:30] <Shurcik> the same as in linux class
[23-Jun-2008 15:16:39] <linash__> DarylVoip, see if it works when running the command manually as the zenoss user
[23-Jun-2008 15:16:56] <linash__> Shurcik, try trigger a new modelling
[23-Jun-2008 15:17:21] <DarylVoip> Yes...it actually is. But it seems to be choking on some of the IP addresses - it's odd. But appears to be a command-related issue at this point, not Zenoss.
[23-Jun-2008 15:17:21] <Shurcik> alredy done. let's wait fo results
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:03] <DarylVoip> One big difference is that Zenoss i using the internal (eth0) address of these boxes, and I'd rather have it use their public (eth1) address. Is there any way to set that for the devices?
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:05] <Shurcik> loggin output ...
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:16] <DarylVoip> Looks like it just uses whatever is on eth0 by default
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:33] <Shurcik> you may set outgoin address
[23-Jun-2008 15:18:38] <Shurcik> in zproperties
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:00] <Shurcik> scan time: 59.67 seconds. configuration collected
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:23] <Shurcik> no file system present again
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:39] <linash__> DarylVoip, that would configured through the default route
[23-Jun-2008 15:19:56] <Shurcik> but performance tab prints graphs
[23-Jun-2008 15:20:05] <Shurcik> it's better than nothing
[23-Jun-2008 15:20:39] <DarylVoip> linash__: My deafult route is on the public IP (eth1) for each of these boxes.
[23-Jun-2008 15:21:44] <DarylVoip> Shurcik - What do I use to set it? the zLocalIpAddresses property?
[23-Jun-2008 15:21:58] <Shurcik> well, how to set speed of loopback? there're a lot of events like: lo0 - threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded
[23-Jun-2008 15:22:07] <Shurcik> DarylVoip - yeah, i think so
[23-Jun-2008 15:22:17] <DarylVoip> Looks like a regex
[23-Jun-2008 15:23:28] <linash__> Shurcik, maybe just lock the loopback to not be monitored
[23-Jun-2008 15:24:25] <Shurcik> will just drop data or simply doesn't display or analyze it?
[23-Jun-2008 15:24:40] <Shurcik> how may i do that for all boxes in one time?
[23-Jun-2008 15:25:13] <Shurcik> hmm... Error reading value for "ssCpuRawWait" (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.54.0 is bad)
[23-Jun-2008 15:29:14] <linash__> Shurcik, I don't know how to disable the loopback for all node at once. I don't think this could be implemented easily as the name is different for each OS and its OID index is not even the same.
[23-Jun-2008 15:30:24] <Shurcik> i know that OID index will different
[23-Jun-2008 15:30:34] <linash__> the ip should still be the same though (127.0.0.1/8) so maybe through a script or something
[23-Jun-2008 15:30:45] <Shurcik> i suppose may be some regex to filter ...
[23-Jun-2008 15:31:46] <linash__> Shurcik, If you succeed I'm interested ;-)
[23-Jun-2008 15:36:20] <linash__> Shurcik, for scripting see: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/edit-device-info/ and http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-call-a-method-using-rest/
[23-Jun-2008 15:36:48] <__adytum-bot> Title: Edit Device Info - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Jun-2008 15:36:49] <__adytum-bot> Title: How To Call A Method Using Rest - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Jun-2008 15:37:28] <Shurcik> thx
[23-Jun-2008 15:53:34] <Shurcik> btw, how to delete events completely?
[23-Jun-2008 15:53:46] <Shurcik> or clean event history
[23-Jun-2008 16:00:41] <linash__> Shurcik, history is clean automaticaly I think, but if you have a lot of event/device it might not be enough...
[23-Jun-2008 16:01:16] <linash__> Shurcik, btw I found the base URL for REST scripting to disable the loopback interface:
[23-Jun-2008 16:01:34] <linash__> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/FreeBSD/devices/NODE_NAME_HERE/os/interfaces/lo?monitor:boolean=False&zmanage_editProperties:method=+Save+
[23-Jun-2008 16:02:59] <Shurcik> i simply delete lo0 interface from node
[23-Jun-2008 16:03:11] <Shurcik> deleted
[23-Jun-2008 16:03:30] <linash__> bye
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[23-Jun-2008 18:05:27] <tessier_> I could have sworn that zenoss stored everything in zodb.
[23-Jun-2008 18:05:43] <tessier_> But our latest install of zenoss 2.2 seems to store everything in mysql.
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:06] <linash> tessier, even the templates?
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:08] <tessier_> My sysadmin just told me that our events table is corrupted. I was surprised to hear of a corrupt zodb. He tells me it's mysql.
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:23] <tessier_> linash: Not sure. At this point I'm not sure what is stored in zodb and what is stored in mysql.
[23-Jun-2008 18:06:45] <linash> I think events have always been in mysql
[23-Jun-2008 18:07:23] <linash> (well that's the name of the database)
[23-Jun-2008 18:10:18] <jb> events has always been mysql..
[23-Jun-2008 18:10:43] <tessier_> but everything else is in zodb?
[23-Jun-2008 18:10:59] <tessier_> Or events db is corrupted. Think we can just delete it and have zenoss recreate?
[23-Jun-2008 18:11:35] <jb> yeah, everything else is zodb
[23-Jun-2008 18:11:47] <jb> well, I havent had that problem yet, so im not sure :/
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[24-Jun-2008 14:17:12] <ccesario> hello...
[24-Jun-2008 14:21:16] <ccesario> Is possible make "escalonation" hosts verify ..... parent/children.... ?
[24-Jun-2008 14:39:44] <Bulwinkle> ccesario: I don't understand your question
[24-Jun-2008 14:41:51] <MoreDakka> Maybe he is talking about dependencies?
[24-Jun-2008 14:42:23] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle: Can users be locked down to view only specific devices?
[24-Jun-2008 14:44:45] <ccesario> yes dependecies
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:04] <ccesario> Bulwinkle, eheh I dont get 1212172771 mails in my mailbox.....
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:10] <ccesario> ehehhe
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:17] <ccesario> understand ?
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:39] <Bulwinkle> ccesario: not really
[24-Jun-2008 14:45:56] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: not to the best of my knowledge
[24-Jun-2008 14:46:18] <ccesario> Bulwinkle, Hosts hierarchy ....
[24-Jun-2008 14:46:24] <MoreDakka> Router1 -Router2 - switch - device <- If Router1 goes down it doesn't alert on Router2, switch and device...right?
[24-Jun-2008 14:47:19] <ccesario> MoreDakka, yes
[24-Jun-2008 14:47:56] <ccesario> its is possible ?
[24-Jun-2008 14:48:49] <Bulwinkle> ccesario: supposedly ZenOSS does it automatically based on the routing tables it builds... I haven't seen that to be the case though.
[24-Jun-2008 14:48:51] <cgibbons> So you want any devices behind a router to not alert when the router going to them is down? That is supported although it's fickle about your network setup (I've done a lot of the testing on it).
[24-Jun-2008 14:50:13] <MoreDakka> WhatsUp Gold can set dependencies manually, wish Zenoss could do the same.
[24-Jun-2008 14:50:20] <ccesario> yes yes,,,, the problem is "mail alert" if router1 goes down..... I only want receive mail alter from this host
[24-Jun-2008 14:50:58] <MoreDakka> you must have a lot of devices being monitored if you are getting 1212172771 messages.
[24-Jun-2008 14:51:17] <cgibbons> what I have seen it needs to work properly is you have to be monitoring your zenoss box (localhost or whatever) within zenoss, and it has to be able to calculate the route from there to the router in question. if that's setup properly then it should not report alerts when the intermediate router goes down.
[24-Jun-2008 14:51:35] <cgibbons> now that said, I've done that testing with 2.2.x not prior versions so I'm not entirely sure how much was added in the 2.2.x timeframe.
[24-Jun-2008 14:52:16] <MoreDakka> cgibbons: Can users be locked down to view only specificdevices? As if we wanted to have multiple clients networks being monitored by Zenoss and we want a client to only see their network?
[24-Jun-2008 14:52:58] * ccesario confused O_o
[24-Jun-2008 14:54:25] <cgibbons> so let me explain the test I did for the network dependencies in detail and we can see how that relates to your network
[24-Jun-2008 14:56:29] <ccesario> ok
[24-Jun-2008 14:56:31] <Shurcik> hi everyone. if anyone has ideas why file systems on the host are not shown? node is put under /server/linux
[24-Jun-2008 14:56:54] <MoreDakka> snmp permissions on the linux boxz/
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:05] <Shurcik> no
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:13] <Shurcik> snmpwalk shows all perfect
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:48] <MoreDakka> the device is in /devices/server/linux class?
[24-Jun-2008 14:57:49] <Shurcik> what collector gathers data about partitions?
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:05] <Shurcik> moment, let me check
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:22] <cgibbons> so I had a zenoss server on 192.168.1.100 as part of 192.168.1.0/24. it was monitoring itself. there is a gateway on 192.168.1.222 that has 192.168.17.0/24 behind it. there is a switch and a small collection of hosts on that subet.
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:29] <MoreDakka> Anyone know where Windows keeps a log for SNMP Traps?
[24-Jun-2008 14:58:49] <cgibbons> so the router on 192.168.1.222 is being monitored, as are the switch and hosts behind that router on 192.168.17.0/24 - so far everything is happy.
[24-Jun-2008 14:59:19] <MoreDakka> Windows logging is teh suck.
[24-Jun-2008 14:59:31] <cgibbons> if 192.168.1.222 goes down, zenoss won't report any alarms for the hosts it can't being behind it on 192.168.17.0/24 IF both the zenoss server and 192.168.1.222 are being monitored, and zenoss knows how to route between them
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:20] <Shurcik> MoreDakka, /Devices /Server /FreeBSD
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:23] <ccesario> hmmmm
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:44] <Shurcik> since it's freebsd box. but putting it into linux class change nothing
[24-Jun-2008 15:01:47] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming then that is a freebsd box ;-)
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:00] <MoreDakka> try remodeling the device.
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:08] <ccesario> cgibbons, then,,,,, I dont need do nothing.... zenoss is inteligent O_o
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:08] <Shurcik> already
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:21] <Shurcik> it has the same pack of collectors as linux boxes
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:30] <Shurcik> (linux boxes have no fs too)
[24-Jun-2008 15:02:39] <cgibbons> it tries to be, but then again if a link in the chain is missing it doesn't really tell you that it needs it
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:02] <MoreDakka> Woudl be nice if we could manually set dependencies.
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:03] <cgibbons> so something like not having the zenoss server as monitored will prevent it from doing the dependencies properly and it's really hard to know that
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:26] <Shurcik> if i add zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:35] <Shurcik> and do remodeling
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:41] <Shurcik> then fs are shown
[24-Jun-2008 15:03:47] <Shurcik> but only total space
[24-Jun-2008 15:04:13] <Shurcik> since this plugin doesn't query specific OIDs for every mounted fs
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:02] <Shurcik> also hardware tab shows nothing about memory and swap
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:09] <Shurcik> but perf tab has graphs ...
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:42] <MoreDakka> Ehhh...you've taken this above my level of knowledge in Zenoss....
[24-Jun-2008 15:05:53] <Shurcik> and one more question - i have a lot of warnings that loopback interfaces are over 75% capacity over nodes ...
[24-Jun-2008 15:07:15] <Shurcik> this interface has 'unknown' Speed in int properties. how to remove lo0 monitoring completely from all nodes with one operation?
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:28] <ccesario> cgibbons, hmmm yes
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:37] <ccesario> thank you by your explain....
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:42] <cgibbons> sure thing
[24-Jun-2008 15:08:49] <cgibbons> one of the few things i can help with so far :-)
[24-Jun-2008 15:09:28] <MoreDakka> cgibbons: Can users be locked down to view only specificdevices? As if we wanted to have multiple clients networks being monitored by Zenoss and we want a client to only see their network?
[24-Jun-2008 15:09:53] <cgibbons> maybe... lemme see
[24-Jun-2008 15:11:09] <MoreDakka> Tried to add a ZenUser with an admin level of 0 but can still list all the devices on the system.
[24-Jun-2008 15:19:05] <cgibbons> ive got the right people to ask around me so once i get some free cycles from them maybe i can find out
[24-Jun-2008 15:19:18] <MoreDakka> :-D right on ;-)
[24-Jun-2008 15:38:57] <MoreDakka> Anyone know where Windows keeps a log for SNMP Traps?
[24-Jun-2008 15:56:02] <nemo_> /opt/zenoss/log/ ?
[24-Jun-2008 15:57:01] <Shurcik> MoreDakka, i suppose you need additional software to log snmp traps
[24-Jun-2008 15:57:43] <linash__> MoreDakka, you can check the windows event viewer... maybe...
[24-Jun-2008 15:58:12] <MoreDakka> Yeah the event viewr just shows me when the snmp service is restarted, doesn't show any other access logs or sending of traps ;-/
[24-Jun-2008 15:58:22] <MoreDakka> Windows logging sucks...
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:33] <cgibbons> okay got the scoop
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:41] <cgibbons> you can indeed restrict users to only see certain devices or device classes
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:42] <MoreDakka> scoop....awesome
[24-Jun-2008 16:01:57] <cgibbons> then again he didn't tell me how
[24-Jun-2008 16:02:13] <MoreDakka> AHhahahah
[24-Jun-2008 16:02:16] <MoreDakka> NOOOOOOOO
[24-Jun-2008 16:02:40] <cgibbons> but that'll be easy to figure out shortly since we know its possible
[24-Jun-2008 16:05:02] <cgibbons> lunch, bbiab
[24-Jun-2008 16:05:14] <ckrough> cgibbons: you can set up groups then assign access via the groups
[24-Jun-2008 16:11:09] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to assign a user one specific group but that user is still able to see all the other devices via systems or device list.
[24-Jun-2008 16:11:38] <MoreDakka> Or even groups. /Groups instead of just /Groups/UsersGroup
[24-Jun-2008 16:12:50] <ckrough> they way we've done it is: create a user group "usergroup", create a device group "devicegroup", then set "devicegroup" as an administered object for "usergroup"
[24-Jun-2008 16:13:03] <ckrough> users in usergroup can only see information relevant to devicegroup
[24-Jun-2008 17:01:59] <MoreDakka> Hmmm...that doesn't work for me. I have tried using /Location/DeviceGroup, /Group/DeviceGroup, /System/DeviceGroup and set the user's group to administer only those objects but still can see devices outside of those groups.
[24-Jun-2008 17:14:51] <TBKdan> I just installed a Zenoss 2.2.0 virtual appliance and used rpath to update it to 2.2.1. Now, I cannot add IP or Win services from the device OS window. See http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21755 Any ideas?
[24-Jun-2008 17:15:10] <__adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - 2.2.1 VM app cannot add IP/Win services (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Jun-2008 19:07:18] <TBKdan> Sooo.. any ideas on the IP/Win services?
[24-Jun-2008 19:40:03] <ckrough> \
[24-Jun-2008 19:54:32] <TBKdan> Fixed
http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21716[24-Jun-2008 19:54:47] <__adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - 2.2.1 VM app cannot add IP/Win services [SOLVED] (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Jun-2008 22:39:00] <kso512> I just installed 2.2 on an Ubuntu server, and in both IE and Firefox the pages are displayed improperly... The frames overlap each other. Any ideas? I couldn't find anything on google...
[24-Jun-2008 22:55:45] <kso512> it looks like it's related to css, after looking at the firefox Error Console... "Expected declaration but found '*'. Skipped to next declaration / http://(myserver):8080/zport/yui/grids/grids-min.css"
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[25-Jun-2008 14:10:15] <TBKdan> I was trying to change the default network that comes up on the network map by editing Products/ZenWidgets/skins/zenui/flex/ZenNetMap.mxml. Now the network map app doesn't even come up o.O Any ideas?
[25-Jun-2008 15:54:47] <TBKdan> I keep getting MSCRMEmail components alerting me that "the recipients for the e-mail message with subject "yadda" in mailbox yadda@yadda.com did not match any known records. Is there a way to block any future messages along these lines?
[25-Jun-2008 15:55:57] <nemo_> transform them away
[25-Jun-2008 16:00:18] <TBKdan> *looks through admin guide*
[25-Jun-2008 16:00:25] <TBKdan> Still new
[25-Jun-2008 16:07:37] <nemo_> transform is the way for sure
[25-Jun-2008 16:07:52] <nemo_> can anyone correct my terminology pls
[25-Jun-2008 16:08:13] <nemo_> i want to setup an indepdentant version of zenoss to be just a collector / perf monitor
[25-Jun-2008 16:08:35] <nemo_> i think i am calling it the wrong thing , cus i cant find docs
[25-Jun-2008 16:09:00] <nemo_> its a new zenoss box but it doesnt run the mysql , and it holds the perf logs and rrd's
[25-Jun-2008 16:20:56] <AmishGeek> if running zenoss in a VMware virtual machine on VMware server, what kind of resources should be allocated for proper performance?
[25-Jun-2008 16:21:59] <MrTux> AmishGeek: it's the question of what to monitor
[25-Jun-2008 16:22:33] <AmishGeek> ~10 servers, monitoring cpu/memory/network and web services etc
[25-Jun-2008 16:22:47] <AmishGeek> uptime
[25-Jun-2008 16:22:53] <MoreDakka_> I don't think you would need much to monitor just that.
[25-Jun-2008 16:23:48] <AmishGeek> i'm thinking 256mb memory allocation, and 25-30% cpu?
[25-Jun-2008 16:24:31] <AmishGeek> using the downloadeable vmware appliance
[25-Jun-2008 16:42:20] <TBKdan> I think you'll need more than 256mb of RAM..
[25-Jun-2008 16:42:27] <TBKdan> Unless you have about 1gb of swap
[25-Jun-2008 16:42:48] <TBKdan> I ran into issues on my first test of the VM because I only gave it 384 with the stock 128 swap
[25-Jun-2008 16:43:03] <TBKdan> Right now watching 6 servers...
[25-Jun-2008 16:43:26] <TBKdan> Mem: 516088k total, 509576k used, 6512k free, 49312k buffers
[25-Jun-2008 16:43:26] <TBKdan> Swap: 524280k total, 113660k used, 410620k free, 134356k cached
[25-Jun-2008 16:54:31] <TBKdan> How would one use a transform to drop an event?
[25-Jun-2008 16:54:55] <TBKdan> evt.severity = 0?
[25-Jun-2008 16:59:23] <cgibbons> do you need to use a transform and not the zEventAction zproperty?
[25-Jun-2008 17:11:09] <TBKdan> cgibbons: Someone had previously mentioned that I should transform it away, but I did see the zProperty of just setting it to clear... that will basically clear any of those events as they come in, correct?
[25-Jun-2008 17:13:05] <cgibbons> I'm not entirely sure about the transform method, but setting zEventAction to "drop" will completely drop the event.
[25-Jun-2008 17:13:21] <TBKdan> apoeiual;v
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:13] <TBKdan> cgibbons: You mean clear, not drop, correct?
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:49] <TBKdan> er
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:52] <TBKdan> Nvm
[25-Jun-2008 17:14:52] <TBKdan>
[25-Jun-2008 17:15:10] <TBKdan> Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[25-Jun-2008 17:24:45] <TBKdan> Any ideas on how to deploy the windows SNMP installer to a decent amount of Windows server through group policy? I'm thinking I may have to create an MSI with the necessary commands, but if there's something already out there, obviously I'd prefer that
[25-Jun-2008 17:28:54] <cgibbons> I'm not sure how to do that (yet), but I'm working on some of the WMI / Windows stuff next release so I'll probably find out soon
[25-Jun-2008 17:32:07] <TBKdan> Ok, I'll look around. Thanks for the help.
[25-Jun-2008 19:05:39] <TBKdan> How can one test the regex of an Event against the example text?
[25-Jun-2008 20:02:52] <TBKdan> Anybody use Net-SNMP on Windows along with extensions like SNMP-informant?
[25-Jun-2008 20:11:05] <magnachef> I think you're probably best to just use SNMP-Informant
[25-Jun-2008 20:11:39] <magnachef> not sure what conflicts might occur with both of them running
[25-Jun-2008 20:21:10] <TBKdan> Arg
[25-Jun-2008 20:21:27] <TBKdan> To be continued tomorrow..
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[25-Jun-2008 21:57:47] <kso512> Has anyone else had an issue with CSS? I'm getting TONS of errors from a fresh clean install of Ubuntu 8.04 Server and Zenoss 2.2.0
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:12] <kso512> i.e. "Warning: Unknown property 'zoom'. Declaration dropped.
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:12] <kso512> Source File: http://ext-nms:8080/zport/dmd/yui/assets/skins/sam/skin.css
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:13] <kso512> Line: 17"
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:34] <kso512> and "Error: YAHOO.zenoss.zenautocomplete.DevAndEventObjectSearch is not a constructor
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:34] <kso512> Source File: http://ext-nms:8080/zport/ZenPortletManager/get_source
[25-Jun-2008 21:58:35] <kso512> Line: 266"
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[26-Jun-2008 04:36:49] <troy42> evening
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[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:10
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:15
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:1A
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:20
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:26] <hotmanta_> 13:25
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:27] <hotmanta_> 13:2A
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:29] <hotmanta_> 13:30
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:31] <hotmanta_> 13:35
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:33] <hotmanta_> 13:40
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:35] <hotmanta_> 13:45
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:37] <hotmanta_> 13:50
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:39] <hotmanta_> 13:55
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:41] <hotmanta_> 13:60
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:43] <hotmanta_> 1F:11
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:45] <hotmanta_> 1F:12
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:47] <hotmanta_> 31:00
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:48] <jdownie_> oi. what's that?
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:49] <hotmanta_> 31:01
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:51] <hotmanta_> 32:01
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:53] <hotmanta_> 32:0D
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:57] <hotmanta_> 32:10
[26-Jun-2008 12:28:59] <hotmanta_> 32:1A
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:01] <hotmanta_> 32:1B
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:03] <hotmanta_> 32:1C
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:04] <jdownie_> is that a file transfer?
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:05] <hotmanta_> 36:01
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:07] <hotmanta_> 36:02
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:09] <hotmanta_> 36:03
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:11] <hotmanta_> 36:04
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:13] <hotmanta_> 36:05
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:15] <hotmanta_> 36:06
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:17] <hotmanta_> 36:A0
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:19] <hotmanta_> 36:A1
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:21] <hotmanta_> 36:A2
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:23] <hotmanta_> 38:0B
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:27] <hotmanta_> 38:2B
[26-Jun-2008 12:29:50] <jdownie_> you there?
[26-Jun-2008 12:30:36] <hotmanta_> hey
[26-Jun-2008 12:30:52] <hotmanta_> yaeh a dragged a file to the window
[26-Jun-2008 12:39:08] <hotmanta_> quiet
[26-Jun-2008 12:50:46] <mib_xvihew> Hey guys, if I install Zenoss-stack 2.2, do I need to install before that SNMPD and MYSQLD first?
[26-Jun-2008 12:51:58] <linash_> mib_xvihew, no
[26-Jun-2008 12:52:50] <mib_xvihew> that is all I need then, version 2.2?
[26-Jun-2008 12:53:22] <linash_> yep
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:28] <nemo_> Zenoss-stack - what is that ?
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:34] <nemo_> i heard you say it 10's of times
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:50] <nemo_> curious , because i heard of tcp stacks, stacks of cash
[26-Jun-2008 12:54:57] <nemo_> but wtf is a zenoss stack ?
[26-Jun-2008 12:56:10] <mib_xvihew> that is what they call the new integrated installation fo Zenoss 2.2
[26-Jun-2008 12:56:12] <linash_> stack means that it include all necessary layers
[26-Jun-2008 12:56:46] <mib_xvihew> thanks: linash_
[26-Jun-2008 13:00:14] <TBKdan> Is there any way to get the SNMP Informant type data (cpuPercentProcessorTime, memoryAvailableKBytes, etc) on a Windows box with Net-SNMP?
[26-Jun-2008 14:00:10] <FabioGB> Hello all
[26-Jun-2008 14:00:21] <TBKdan> Hi
[26-Jun-2008 14:01:00] <FabioGB> I am having trouble on monitoring linux proccess, can someone help me?
[26-Jun-2008 14:03:48] <TBKdan> Can't say I've attempted to, so dunno how much help I'll be. I'd just ask the question and someone will eventually see it
[26-Jun-2008 14:07:18] <FabioGB> I thnik I am not using regex on the correct way...processes dissapear from the list and sometimes not running alerts are on even when the proccess is up and running
[26-Jun-2008 14:07:38] <woodland_critter> Hi all.. After adding a custom MIB, is there anything special that needs to be done to tie it to a specific device?
[26-Jun-2008 14:37:32] <FabioGB> Anayone can help me?
[26-Jun-2008 14:38:52] <nemo_> anyone tried the apc zenpack ?
[26-Jun-2008 14:39:15] <nemo_> what does it provide exactley ? i cannot find anything at all, nothing related to my apc devices seems to have changed
[26-Jun-2008 14:39:34] <nemo_> came from here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/APCMonitor.zip/view
[26-Jun-2008 14:39:49] <[adytum-bot]> Title: APC Monitor Zenpack - Commercial Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[26-Jun-2008 15:39:48] <kso512> FabioGB: Sorry, I haven't dug that deep yet...
[26-Jun-2008 15:40:46] <kso512> for sake of the archive: I found the 'issue' I was having with CSS not rendering right - AdBlock Plus was messing up the CSS interpretations...
[26-Jun-2008 15:41:17] <magnachef> FabioGB: you need to lock these processes from deletion
[26-Jun-2008 15:55:17] <FabioGB> Hi magnachef
[26-Jun-2008 15:55:46] <FabioGB> where can I do such this configuration
[26-Jun-2008 15:55:46] <FabioGB> ?
[26-Jun-2008 16:01:17] <magnachef> under the OS tab
[26-Jun-2008 16:01:27] <TBKdan> Select the processes, then click the arrow and lock
[26-Jun-2008 16:01:42] <magnachef> boo ya
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:11] <nemo_> anyone tried the apc zenpack ?
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:13] <nemo_> came from here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/APCMonitor.zip/view
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:17] <nemo_> what does it provide exactley ? i cannot find anything at all, nothing related to my apc devices seems to have changed
[26-Jun-2008 16:03:47] <nemo_> seems to work for you guys so why dont i just keep copy pasting my questions till someone answers
[26-Jun-2008 16:04:07] <magnachef> yours is more specific
[26-Jun-2008 16:04:25] <[adytum-bot]> nemo_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[26-Jun-2008 16:04:29] <magnachef> general questions are much easier :-)
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[26-Jun-2008 16:53:25] <TBKdan> Anybody know of any way to change DCOM security settings via Group Policy? I want to create a domain user that can poll the WMI data, but that requires setting some WMI and DCOM permissions... I don't want to have to do this for every computer obviously
[26-Jun-2008 20:06:51] <TBKdan> http://blogs.msdn.com/spatdsg/archive/2007/11/21/set-wmi-namespace-security-via-gpo-script.aspx
[26-Jun-2008 20:06:52] <TBKdan> w00t
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[26-Jun-2008 20:29:41] <fhew> can someone answer 'how can I access trap varbind entities in transforms?
[26-Jun-2008 21:42:05] <jsm> is it possible to generate graphs with custom date ranges?
[26-Jun-2008 21:42:29] <jsm> i only want to see data in a 2 week time period
[26-Jun-2008 22:19:17] <AmishGeek___> when adding a centOS linux server as a device to zenoss, what is the best choice for Hardware vendor etc? Generic / net-snmp?
[26-Jun-2008 22:19:24] <AmishGeek___> since i'm just running net-snmp as the daemon
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[26-Jun-2008 23:25:27] <linash> AmishGeek___, I believe It makes no difference
[26-Jun-2008 23:26:55] <jsm> sorry to ask this again: how do i specify a date range when creating a graph report?
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[27-Jun-2008 10:17:02] <TaGRaM> hi all
[27-Jun-2008 10:19:00] <TaGRaM> was wondering if anyone knows or knows where I can find information about Zenoss monitors for Opsware SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 12:36:42] <TaGRaM> wondering if anyone knows or knows where I can find information about Zenoss monitors for Opsware SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 12:56:42] <nemo_> folke
[27-Jun-2008 12:56:45] <nemo_> wallberg?
[27-Jun-2008 12:58:19] <folke> nemo_: ? who me?
[27-Jun-2008 12:58:23] <nemo_> yeh
[27-Jun-2008 12:58:50] <folke> nemo_: Nah, not wallberg.. Andreas is my name
[27-Jun-2008 12:59:22] <nemo_> kool i thought we might be old colleaugues ;P
[27-Jun-2008 12:59:31] <nemo_> but were not ...
[27-Jun-2008 13:01:51] <folke> Ah, I'm from up north in sweden
[27-Jun-2008 13:02:07] <nemo_> so is he
[27-Jun-2008 13:02:11] <nemo_> upsala or something
[27-Jun-2008 13:02:27] <nemo_> maybe even umea
[27-Jun-2008 13:05:24] <folke> Ah, and you to?
[27-Jun-2008 13:07:36] <nemo_> nope i am in NL
[27-Jun-2008 13:07:44] <nemo_> but i know many swedish refugees here
[27-Jun-2008 13:08:43] <folke> Oh, I have a friend in NL, amsterdam that is..
[27-Jun-2008 13:10:39] <nemo_> hehe who knows ;p its a small word
[27-Jun-2008 13:10:45] <nemo_> world*
[27-Jun-2008 13:12:32] <folke> indeed
[27-Jun-2008 13:13:11] <folke> Bah, i'm messing around with insight manager and zenoss.
[27-Jun-2008 13:21:26] <TaGRaM> insight manager and zenoss sounds as fun as opsware and zenoss
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[27-Jun-2008 15:01:18] <AmishGeek___> is there any documentation on how to configure bsnmp on a freebsd 7 server so zenoss can read from it?
[27-Jun-2008 15:04:57] <linash> AmishGeek___, why not use net-snmp?
[27-Jun-2008 15:06:28] <AmishGeek___> no particular reason... my freebsd7 servers all appear to have bsnmp installed by default
[27-Jun-2008 15:08:09] <linash> sry... don't know. I just know that net-snmp works perfectly on freebsd with zenoss (it even give installed software)
[27-Jun-2008 15:08:54] <AmishGeek___> i'm installing net-snmp as we speak...
[27-Jun-2008 15:20:51] <TaGRaM> anyone know how or where I can find information about Zenoss monitors for Opsware SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 16:25:27] <rak> TaGRaM: What you trying to do with SAS?
[27-Jun-2008 17:21:04] <TBKdan> Sweeeet... full Group Policy deployment of SNMP and WMI/DCOM security settings
[27-Jun-2008 17:24:11] <kso512> TBKdan: How'd you do it...?
[27-Jun-2008 17:25:14] <TBKdan> kso512: Lots of time and patience lol
[27-Jun-2008 17:25:28] <TBKdan> I'm probably going to make a writeup of it and post it on the forums
[27-Jun-2008 17:25:49] <TBKdan> I have to do it anyway for my supervisor just in case the machine obliterates itself and I have to set it up again (or someone else)
[27-Jun-2008 17:26:01] <kso512> TBKdan: That'd be great...!
[27-Jun-2008 17:26:18] <kso512> TBKdan: The write-up, not the obliteration
[27-Jun-2008 17:26:27] <TBKdan> lol
[27-Jun-2008 18:41:22] <mmb> anyone been able to show free disk space on netapp using the NetApp Volume zenpack?
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[28-Jun-2008 18:01:17] <the_mali> anyone here who can help me with getting started with zenoss?
[28-Jun-2008 18:02:07] <the_mali>
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[29-Jun-2008 13:42:52] <MrTux> is there any reason why twisted 2.5.0 is used? isn't it a little bit very old?
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[30-Jun-2008 06:14:32] <lahirup> hi
[30-Jun-2008 06:15:01] <lahirup> how can i add a process running in a windows server to zenoss
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[30-Jun-2008 11:32:20] <Comradin> Hi folks, my (half configured) zenoss installation wrote over the weekend an approx 9G sized Data.fs file while my second (configured) box has one of 27M.. Whats usually collected in this file?
[30-Jun-2008 11:33:04] <Comradin> Unfortunatly I had to delete the file, as the volume was full
[30-Jun-2008 11:33:39] <monrad> its the zenoss backend database
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:20] <Comradin> the zope database?
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:37] <monrad> i think so
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:55] <Comradin> am still struggling with the fact, that there are two databases
[30-Jun-2008 11:34:58] <Comradin>
[30-Jun-2008 11:51:50] <nemo_> Comradin, its the zeo db
[30-Jun-2008 11:51:59] <nemo_> and its bad news if you lost 9gb !
[30-Jun-2008 11:52:11] <nemo_> zeo db = internals of devices , relationships etc
[30-Jun-2008 11:52:16] <nemo_> mysql db = events
[30-Jun-2008 11:56:14] <Comradin> nemo_: I guess its been worthless data inside these 9G as both machines are in the same network
[30-Jun-2008 11:56:33] <Comradin> the 9G box just not fully configured
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:01] <Comradin> as the second datafile is just 27M in size
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:07] <MrTux> Comradin: you can shrink the database, because it has an object history, you can do that over the zopemangement..
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:19] <MrTux> i had 450GB database, shrinked it to about 560M now
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:30] <Comradin> ouch
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:43] <MrTux> <- monitoring a little bit bigger network..
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:53] <Comradin> isnt there some kind of garbagecollection?
[30-Jun-2008 11:57:56] <nemo_> 469M Jun 30 13:42 Data.fs
[30-Jun-2008 11:58:04] <nemo_> i am monitoring ~2500 devices
[30-Jun-2008 11:58:13] <monrad> zeopack is a must
[30-Jun-2008 11:58:23] <nemo_> i reindex the db daily tho ..
[30-Jun-2008 11:59:37] <MrTux> i'm monitoring about 4000 devices and around 16*10^4 ports or so
[30-Jun-2008 11:59:48] <Shurick> nemo, 12 devices. ~850Mb
[30-Jun-2008 12:00:10] <MrTux> .oO(who has the biggest?
)[30-Jun-2008 12:00:16] <Comradin> I have about 20 devices
[30-Jun-2008 12:00:40] <Shurick> the smallest
[30-Jun-2008 12:01:23] <Shurick> btw is there any app to control rrd datafile sizes in zenoss? like 'keep only 1 week history data' ?
[30-Jun-2008 12:04:53] <nemo_> Comradin read about zeo db , reindexing and packing
[30-Jun-2008 12:04:58] <nemo_> Sorry meant Shurick
[30-Jun-2008 12:06:02] <Shurick> so no default utility, not good
[30-Jun-2008 12:23:54] <Comradin> zeopack wants to connect to a socket, do I use the zopectlsock in the var/ subdirectory?
[30-Jun-2008 12:24:44] <nemo_> RTFM people
[30-Jun-2008 12:25:29] <nemo_> we are all busy, i am trying to be helpful but i am not your personal helpers
[30-Jun-2008 12:32:32] <Comradin> no problem, found it. I was just looking for the wrong term
[30-Jun-2008 12:33:31] <Comradin> and btw. the admin guide does not speak about connecting through the socket, just the port
[30-Jun-2008 12:38:05] <nemo_> make a bug with zenoss
[30-Jun-2008 12:38:11] <nemo_> we are just users
[30-Jun-2008 13:34:43] afk_away is now known as folke
[30-Jun-2008 13:52:38] <ckrough> anyone know a trick for listing all of the TALES attributes for a device?
[30-Jun-2008 13:55:40] <nemo_> nope that would make a decent faq tho !
[30-Jun-2008 13:57:09] <ckrough> yes, yes it would
[30-Jun-2008 13:57:38] <ckrough> you should be able to do it in zendmd, but I dont know enough python to do that at the moment
[30-Jun-2008 15:34:39] <rbooth> Has anyone ran into issues with zeneventlog having heartbeat failures after upgrading to 2.2 from 2.1?
[30-Jun-2008 15:36:02] <TBKdan> I think there's a topic on that on the forums rbooth
[30-Jun-2008 15:38:17] <rbooth> yeah i saw several post with the same issue but it dosent look like they have it resolved. Was just checking if someone here new what was up.
[30-Jun-2008 15:39:10] <TBKdan> I just started with 2.2 VM, so can't say I've run into it. Sorry
[30-Jun-2008 15:56:22] <cluther> rbooth: You can try running zeneventlog with a watchdog to combat this: zeneventlog stop ; zeneventlog start --watchdog
[30-Jun-2008 15:57:43] <rbooth> Ill give that a shot. what does the watchdog do?
[30-Jun-2008 15:58:29] <cluther> It will monitor the process (zeneventlog) and restart it if it appears hung. Really just a workaround for the Samba libraries propensity to get themselves wedged.
[30-Jun-2008 15:59:24] <rbooth> Cool thanks
[30-Jun-2008 16:00:51] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[30-Jun-2008 18:10:53] <ckrough> anyone know a trick for listing all of the TALES attributes for a device?
[30-Jun-2008 18:16:26] <realmelancon> Is there anybody with experience with Windows event logs ?
[30-Jun-2008 18:19:58] <realmelancon> anybody available ?
[30-Jun-2008 18:41:50] <magnachef> I'm here, but not sure of Windows event logs
[30-Jun-2008 19:48:12] <TBKdan> Anybody know of any ZenPacks to monitor performance with winexe instead of WMI, since WMI requires an account with admin privs on 2003 SP1+?
[30-Jun-2008 19:51:55] <tessier_> The zenpack I really need, the virtual host monitor, requires money.
That's a serious bummer.[30-Jun-2008 19:52:12] <tessier_> And I notice it is really hard or impossible to monitor your own virtual hosts without getting errors about multiple devices having the same ip
[30-Jun-2008 19:53:55] indradg__ is now known as indradg
[30-Jun-2008 20:32:07] <magnachef> I monitor virtual machines
[30-Jun-2008 20:32:52] <magnachef> I think it may be an issue with how you are setting up your VM's
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