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[01-Sep-2007 08:05:09] <shoufa> hi, am new to zenoss and SNMP, i need to monitor CPU temperature
[01-Sep-2007 08:05:55] <shoufa> i found some tutorials like: http://webaj.com/how-setup-environmental-monitor-zenoss-1-1-2-and-centos-5-0.htm but it all talks about MIBs and external devices, i just need to monitor CPU temp for my server...
[01-Sep-2007 08:06:00] <shoufa> any ideas?
[01-Sep-2007 08:27:33] <shoufa> ???
[01-Sep-2007 08:49:34] <shoufa> anyone alive here?
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:14] <b52laptop> shoufa, halla shibby :d , one alive but sorry i don't know the answer
, but i think you "should "" try mailling list .... 
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:21] <b52laptop> ops sorry
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:30] <b52laptop> shoufa, halla :d
[01-Sep-2007 08:52:02] <shoufa> thanks i will do as you suggested
[01-Sep-2007 08:52:32] <b52laptop> your welcome
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[02-Sep-2007 06:51:35] <monrad> bzed: hey
[02-Sep-2007 06:51:47] <monrad> any progress on the debian packages
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:07] <bzed> not yet
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:24] <bzed> also I'm still waiting for the latest dbconfig-common
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:29] <bzed> I'll poke seanius to upload it
[02-Sep-2007 06:54:23] <monrad> i just got my hands on a 64 bit machine
[02-Sep-2007 06:54:33] <monrad> should be fun with the new rrdtool version
[02-Sep-2007 06:56:03] <bzed> ahh
[02-Sep-2007 06:56:20] <bzed> that reminds me that I have to poke the rrdtools maintainer to upload a the new version
[02-Sep-2007 06:57:30] <monrad> i think its still a beta release
[02-Sep-2007 06:57:55] <monrad> but its not that easy to hack into the zenoss build system with all the new dependencies
[02-Sep-2007 06:58:10] <monrad> it would be easy if it was native debian packages
[02-Sep-2007 06:58:25] <monrad> i could make a new rrdtools packages myself then
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:30] <bzed> no, 1.2.13 is stable
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:33] <bzed> err 1.2.23
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:37] <bzed> 1.3 is the beta
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:46] <monrad> yes
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:55] <bzed> and 1.2.19 is in debian
[02-Sep-2007 07:04:09] <bzed> which has some annoying bugs if it comes to large numbers
[02-Sep-2007 07:04:25] <monrad> ah
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:01] <monrad> in the last 24 hours i have not had an snmp poll in under 300 secs :/
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:42] <bzed> oh
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:44] <bzed> hmm
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:45] <bzed> btw
[02-Sep-2007 07:06:05] <bzed> zenoss 2.1 will support google maps to locate your stuff
[02-Sep-2007 07:06:51] <monrad> yeah i look at trac
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:02] <monrad> now i just need an "weather map"
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:14] <monrad> but i guess one should be able to do that on top of that
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:41] <bzed> add that to the bug as suggestion
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:42] <bzed>
[02-Sep-2007 07:08:39] <monrad> but with 1016 pieces of equipment scatter in around 300 locations i think we are going to like the map stuff
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:11] <monrad> hmm i think zenmodelere uses a lot of memory
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:17] <monrad> when it has been running for at long time
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:51] <bzed> probably some memory issues!?
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:03] <bzed> somebody should debug it
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:08] <bzed> anyway
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:14] <bzed> I'm off to work to do some stuff for debian
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:18] <bzed> tty later
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:34] <monrad> see you
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:37] <monrad> have a nice day
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[02-Sep-2007 08:15:24] <bzed> monrad: sooo... dbconfig-common is in unstable
[02-Sep-2007 08:16:31] <monrad>
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:05] <monrad> someone is sending us 16K broadcast packages a second for the last hour
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:14] <monrad> time for a zenoss threshold
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:44] <bzed> hehe
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[02-Sep-2007 14:19:16] <monrad> are there problems with zenoss on 64 bit?
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[02-Sep-2007 14:30:23] <monrad> ERROR netsnmp: truncating unsigned value to 32 bits <- i get alot of those
[02-Sep-2007 15:00:25] <DaveToo> I haven't figured those out yet
[02-Sep-2007 15:38:53] <monrad> hmm
[02-Sep-2007 15:39:56] <DaveToo> I'm trying to figure out why zenperfsnmp keeps hanging up on one of my systems,
[02-Sep-2007 15:40:02] <DaveToo> my biggest server
[02-Sep-2007 16:19:04] <monrad> i have only had performance problems with zenperfsnmp
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[02-Sep-2007 17:30:16] <Amr_not_Amr> hello .. how can I monitor mysql and Ipservice?
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[02-Sep-2007 18:11:51] <bzed> monrad: hmm, no clue about the 64bit stuff, I'd ask cluther when he's around here again
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[03-Sep-2007 12:32:20] <oubiwann> testing...
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[03-Sep-2007 13:02:20] <oubiwann> excellent... new logger's working as expected
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[04-Sep-2007 11:51:57] <PJ_fun> anyone knows what is the default password to get into Zenoss VMware
[04-Sep-2007 11:52:45] <PJ_fun> wat is the login to use to get into the management console?
[04-Sep-2007 11:53:19] <PJ_fun> anyone there?
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[04-Sep-2007 17:02:35] <hspcd> Does anyone here have an opinion/experience on the upgrade from 2.0.3 to 2.0.4? I read some forum posts that seemed to point to some issues where some bugs were fixed and still others were introduced.
[04-Sep-2007 17:56:23] <rlount> Hi all.
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[04-Sep-2007 19:50:30] <nrunge> What causes a bad OID?
[04-Sep-2007 19:50:39] <nrunge> I cannot display any performance monitoring.
[04-Sep-2007 20:56:42] <hspcd> Does anyone know of a way to have Zenoss pull content from a site (i.e. images, javascript, etc.) and calculate response times (i.e. full page load times)? I have a basic response time query right now that generates graphs but the response times are not realistic since it's only measuring how fast the server response to a basic http get request.
[04-Sep-2007 20:58:15] <davetoo> Write a wrapper around a wget that spits out nagios plugin-format results?
[04-Sep-2007 20:58:25] <davetoo> send the wget output to /dev/null
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[05-Sep-2007 00:40:07] <Boingo> Hello everyone. Is there a way to bind zenoss, the web part, and the monitoring parts (zneping,zendisc,etc) all to one IP?
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[05-Sep-2007 14:01:46] <Bulwinkle> seems like things have been really quiet around here lately.
[05-Sep-2007 14:03:03] <Bulwinkle> is anyone around looking at other OSS Network Monitoring systems (besides ZenOSS)?
[05-Sep-2007 14:23:22] <creiht> Bulwinkle: There is no other NMS besides ZenOSS
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:02] <Bulwinkle> creiht: If that were only the case.... They'd be justified with the price tag they are asking from me....
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:08] <creiht> hehe
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:08] <creiht> ahh
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:16] <Bulwinkle> especially since it keeps crashing
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:38] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Well if you want alternatives, the other good one in my book is OpenNMS
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:46] <creiht> A bit more difficult to set up and configure
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:52] <creiht> But scales very nicely
[05-Sep-2007 14:25:17] <creiht> It also doesn't have as sexy of a UI
[05-Sep-2007 14:25:51] <MoreDakka_> anyone alive this morning?
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:06] <MoreDakka_> Ooo....maybe I should refresh my chat window...hehe
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:07] <creiht> Yes... but off to a meeting... bbl
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:35] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle, you here?
[05-Sep-2007 14:27:32] <Bulwinkle> Yes
[05-Sep-2007 14:28:13] <MoreDakka_> Do you know if any of the versions of Zenoss can report on a per-port basis for a swtich (alert if a port goes down without using traps)?
[05-Sep-2007 14:28:55] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: you can set that up using the Nagios stuff
[05-Sep-2007 14:32:14] <MoreDakka_> Cool. I'll look into that. Do you know when 2.1 is comin' out and if dependencies are going to be included?
[05-Sep-2007 14:32:18] <MoreDakka_> I can't wait for that feature.
[05-Sep-2007 14:34:55] <Bulwinkle> I'm looking to jump ship as it so.... If I can find something better you won't be seeing me around here any longer
[05-Sep-2007 14:35:23] <MoreDakka_> What are you looking into? Zenoss is pretty full featured.
[05-Sep-2007 14:36:28] <Bulwinkle> Has lots of features but I'm not going to pay $40000 to get someone who can help me every time it blows up....
[05-Sep-2007 14:38:18] <MoreDakka_> 40k....wow. that is quite the premium. This isn't the only monitoring software out there. How many devices do you have?
[05-Sep-2007 14:38:44] <MoreDakka_> Weren't you looking at working with the Zenoss team at one point? Can't remember if that was you or someone else.
[05-Sep-2007 14:39:51] <Bulwinkle> That was me... they are basically asking for $100/device for support... we have 400 devices so..
[05-Sep-2007 14:40:23] <MoreDakka_> 100/device...that's a little retarded.
[05-Sep-2007 14:40:35] <MoreDakka_> I could see $10/device...maybe
[05-Sep-2007 14:47:48] <MoreDakka_> SolarWinds has a nice product, my boss has tried it out but he wants to stay with Open Source for now cause of the cost. I don't think it'll be $40k though.
[05-Sep-2007 14:56:40] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: yeah, the solarwinds orion solution is pretty sweet. We are Ciscocentric here so the NetFlow stuff is pretty cool.
[05-Sep-2007 14:57:56] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: did you get to look at that Nagios stuff? You can do quite a bit with it. The best way to do it is though traps though.
[05-Sep-2007 15:01:07] <MoreDakka_> I couldn't find the command that I can use for that. I've got a nagios plugin running, the check-http plugin which is pretty sweet.
[05-Sep-2007 15:01:35] <MoreDakka_> So I have an idea on how to use it, just need the plugin name.
[05-Sep-2007 15:11:42] <Boingo> Is it true that WMI monitoring is only available on the Enterprise version?
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:28] <Boingo> The last post in this thread seems to indicate so:
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:29] <Boingo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3076&highlight=zenwin+setup
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How To Install ZenWin on my XP environment (at community.zenoss.com)
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[05-Sep-2007 16:01:50] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: what are you trying to monitor with WMI?
[05-Sep-2007 16:02:19] <Boingo> Performance metrics.
[05-Sep-2007 16:02:25] <Boingo> Services.
[05-Sep-2007 16:03:03] <Boingo> Processes.
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:11] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: I currently monitor Services with WMI, I monitor Performance metrics differently
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:23] <Bulwinkle> Depending on the performance metric
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:31] <Boingo> Does it work on core? Or only Enterprise?
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[05-Sep-2007 17:02:48] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: I'm running core
[05-Sep-2007 17:03:57] <Boingo> So the guy in that thread was incorrect?
[05-Sep-2007 17:05:01] <Boingo> And, if so, do you have more documentation on how to setup zenwin, the docs that came with it aren't very clear.
[05-Sep-2007 17:15:46] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: do you have your devices added?
[05-Sep-2007 17:15:56] <Boingo> Yes.
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:19] <Bulwinkle> so they should be in a group like /severs/windows?
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:33] <Boingo> Yes, they are. When I run the test of zenwin from the command line on the device I get errors.
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:41] <deviousz> helllo
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:43] <Boingo> Even before I set it up as a service.
[05-Sep-2007 17:17:41] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: have you put anything in your zProperties under zWinUser and zWinPassword?
[05-Sep-2007 17:17:45] <Bulwinkle> hi deviousz
[05-Sep-2007 17:18:52] <Boingo> Is that which username/password it is expecting?
[05-Sep-2007 17:19:04] <deviousz> I just set up Zenoss, this is amazing
[05-Sep-2007 17:19:49] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: yes...
[05-Sep-2007 17:20:05] <Boingo> See... the docs didnt mention that.
[05-Sep-2007 17:20:16] <Boingo> I thought it was looking for a zenoss user.
[05-Sep-2007 17:21:03] <deviousz> I gave OpenNMS a try a short time ago, this is WAY easier to install
[05-Sep-2007 17:21:38] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle, I'm still having some issues trying to find the nagios plugin for the port monitoring we discussed earlier. Do you know what nagios command I can use?
[05-Sep-2007 17:22:52] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: where are your nagios scripts now?
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:04] <deviousz> Well, nice work!
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:11] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: yeah, the docs on that can be a bit lacking
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:41] <MoreDakka_> I just have the check_http plug in right now. Not even sure where to start for the port monitoring.
[05-Sep-2007 17:24:32] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: check the check_ifstatus and check_ifoperstatus
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:42] <MoreDakka_> sweet, I'm looking now. Thanks Bulwinkle!
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:47] <deviousz> So I've searched for this but haven't come up with anything, hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm looking to monitor HTTP & HTTPS URL's. I have installed HttpMonitor zenpack but not sure where to go from here.
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:49] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: NP
[05-Sep-2007 17:30:11] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: you can add the HTTP graphs to all of your servers you want to monitor HTTP on
[05-Sep-2007 17:31:50] <deviousz> So I can just add the server like I do with anything else? via devices?
[05-Sep-2007 17:33:39] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: yes
[05-Sep-2007 17:33:54] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: and after you do you can add the HTTP stuff in OS
[05-Sep-2007 17:36:16] <deviousz> Ok thx, doing that now
[05-Sep-2007 17:38:16] <deviousz> So, add an Interface?
[05-Sep-2007 17:50:38] <deviousz> Seems like I need to add an 'IP Service'?
[05-Sep-2007 17:51:10] <deviousz> What if I want to monitor multiple sites on a single IP?
[05-Sep-2007 18:07:53] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: aren't they all served by the same web server?
[05-Sep-2007 18:10:04] <deviousz> In this case yes. Its more of a theoretical question, like in the case where redundancy is provided by DNS, where there may be a few different IPs serving the same site w /the same URL
[05-Sep-2007 18:11:24] <deviousz> So thats how to do it right, add an IP service? Or add something else having to do w/ the HttpMonitor?
[05-Sep-2007 18:32:57] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: do you hav the server added?
[05-Sep-2007 18:52:58] <deviousz> yep
[05-Sep-2007 18:55:42] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: I'd suggest you add all of the webservers in to the same group and copy the servertype template to that group and edit it
[05-Sep-2007 19:15:39] <deviousz> Bulwinkle: should I create a new template?
[05-Sep-2007 19:15:50] <deviousz> (sorry if these are ignorant questions)
[05-Sep-2007 19:16:25] <Bulwinkle> I'd copy the base template from the type of server you're running your webserver (copy the /device/server/windows/device template if they are windows)
[05-Sep-2007 19:16:35] <Bulwinkle> copy that to the new group you create
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[06-Sep-2007 04:30:03] <jerojasro> Hi all. I'm testing zenoss, and checking what can it do. I've installed Net-SNMP on a linux box, and I'm getting info for stuff like the network interfaces usage, system version and the like
[06-Sep-2007 04:30:26] <jerojasro> but I'm not seeing any info. about CPU consumption, system load, disk space or similar stuffs
[06-Sep-2007 04:31:04] <jerojasro> the SNMP server on the linux box has been up since, say, 12 hours or more
[06-Sep-2007 04:31:36] <jerojasro> am I missing some config. stuff? on the zenoss installation? on the SNMP server?
[06-Sep-2007 04:32:04] <jerojasro> thanks in advance for your help
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[06-Sep-2007 12:00:29] <kippi> hey
[06-Sep-2007 12:00:59] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 13:11:38] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 13:34:51] <pablo26> hi all
[06-Sep-2007 13:36:15] <pablo26> i want to create groups of users, for example i create an alerting rule and i want it to be apliead to more than one peple, is that possible?
[06-Sep-2007 13:54:39] <BrianJones> I have a question about setting up APC devices
[06-Sep-2007 13:56:52] <monrad> BrianJones: i have one of those
[06-Sep-2007 13:57:11] <monrad> bzed: i saw some checkins at cia.vc
[06-Sep-2007 14:01:17] <BrianJones> I have... about 10 and would like to monitor them (temps, power, etc)
[06-Sep-2007 14:01:41] <BrianJones> but it looks like the apc monitoring is pretty limited out of the box.
[06-Sep-2007 14:02:20] <BrianJones> I am looking for any help obtaining the correct MIBs and integrating them into zenoss
[06-Sep-2007 14:03:21] <BrianJones> i have the Enterprise license... .but the IM support doesn' really help me much
[06-Sep-2007 14:03:43] <BrianJones> and email is WAY too slow
[06-Sep-2007 14:04:03] <BrianJones> ..... and I don't like sitting on the phone
[06-Sep-2007 14:08:21] <BrianJones> any help?
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:07] <monrad> hmm i only had one i for now the default template is good enough for our use
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:22] <BrianJones> there is a default template?
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:43] <BrianJones> all I get when I add the device is... device name, version, and address
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:02] <BrianJones> no information about the operating specs
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:08] <monrad> you have to move the device to the right place in the device tree
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:26] <BrianJones> i would assume that is the "power/apc"
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:36] <monrad> yes
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:56] <BrianJones> or... power/ups/apc
[06-Sep-2007 14:12:05] <BrianJones> yeah... thats where it is
[06-Sep-2007 14:12:59] <BrianJones> what selection should i use for the hardware manuf/product in the add device
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:10] <BrianJones> all it lists for apc is 3 oid's
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:27] <BrianJones> .. .or 4 oid's
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:53] <BrianJones> ending in .10, .12, .13, .7
[06-Sep-2007 14:16:36] <BrianJones> we have 5 rack PDU's... 1 20KvA battery unit, 1 enviro monitor, and the intrustructure manager
[06-Sep-2007 14:16:58] <BrianJones> and 2 more PDU's coming
[06-Sep-2007 14:18:00] <bzed> monrad: yeah, I've poked the developers about some copyright issues and stated to get the packaging done for zenoss 2.1
[06-Sep-2007 14:18:34] <bzed> zenoss 2.2 will use zope2.10, I'm not 100% sure how we're going to handle a migration, I guess there'll be a manual way to do so
[06-Sep-2007 14:19:32] <BrianJones> what should I be looking for to get the correct MIB's from APC?
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:00] <monrad> i have only played around with an APC ups dont know anything about the other stuff
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:05] <monrad> bzed: nice
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:13] <BrianJones> hmm...
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:22] <monrad> 2.1 is like a few months away hopefuly
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:33] <BrianJones> well.. thanks for the help anyway
[06-Sep-2007 14:22:24] <BrianJones> how come nobody is ever on the IM support?? ... That is what we paid for after all
[06-Sep-2007 14:23:03] <BrianJones> I got help the first week after joined and nothing since
[06-Sep-2007 14:24:11] <monrad> we have not bought any support, yet
[06-Sep-2007 14:24:44] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 14:27:05] <BrianJones> Well... word of advice... make sure you figure out about 50% of the stuff you are trying to monitor before getting support
[06-Sep-2007 14:27:53] <BrianJones> we jumped in support first... and I am still using the free support items to resolve issues
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:25] <BrianJones> because email takes up to 24 hours to respond... and IM is never there
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:27] <monrad> we have a setup with around 1000 units it works pretty ok
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:36] <monrad> only some performance problems
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:49] <BrianJones> what hardware are you running on?
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:19] <BrianJones> i noticed HUGE perf issues running on out solars/ubuntu box
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:39] <monrad> an HP DL380-G3 with 2 3 ghz cpus and 2 gb ram with an SAN as backstorage for the rrd files
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:58] <BrianJones> ... hmm sounds close to ours
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:27] <BrianJones> cept ours is running in a vmware esx enviro
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:42] <BrianJones> ... i would suggest more ram tho
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:54] <monrad> we are think of moving it to a G4 so we have 64 bit cpus
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:58] <monrad> with more ram
[06-Sep-2007 14:31:40] <BrianJones> from what I understand the query data is all cached in ram before writing to disk
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:15] <BrianJones> and if you have less ram than the data polled from devices it will slow down
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:21] <monrad> well rrdtool is quite good to trash the diskcache
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:58] <monrad> in the new, not released, rrdtools they use MMAP to increase performance
[06-Sep-2007 14:33:21] <BrianJones> especially if you are polling 1000 devices... thats a LOT of snmp data
[06-Sep-2007 14:33:56] <BrianJones> cause it polls ALL the snmp query info... then extracts the data it needs
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:17] <monrad> i am pretty sure it just ask for the right OIDs
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:44] <monrad> because an snmpwalk of oure core routers takes longer than 30 mins
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:53] <BrianJones> well.. .four our switches it pulls all the oid info even for null and unused ports
[06-Sep-2007 14:35:51] <BrianJones> and if you are running multiple vlans, etc. i could take even longer
[06-Sep-2007 14:35:55] <BrianJones> it*
[06-Sep-2007 14:36:44] <BrianJones> i believe our server is running 2 quad core xeon's with 32 gb of ram
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:25] <BrianJones> ... oddly enough I am only running the 32bit redhat distro
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:33] <BrianJones> and they are 64bit cpu's
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:47] <monrad> i only have problems when it starts reading from the SAN
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:48] <bzed> try debian when I'm done
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:05] <monrad> bzed: it dont think you get enterprise support with debian
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:20] <BrianJones> ... yeah thats why we bought redhat
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:32] <monrad> if the cache is just right a poll takes around 20 secs
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:39] <monrad> if not around 250-400
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:59] <BrianJones> got any extra ram lying arround?
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:02] <monrad> and its the reads thats kills it
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:18] <BrianJones> you running fiber to the san?
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:31] <monrad> well only to G4's thats one of the reasons to move it one of that kind
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:32] <monrad> yes
[06-Sep-2007 14:40:18] <BrianJones> yeah... our san has yet to cause a problem with over 20 virtual machines
[06-Sep-2007 14:40:39] <BrianJones> including 2 large db servers
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:10] <monrad> if it was be i would prefere to use maybe som coraid boxes with AoE
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:11] <BrianJones> running 2gig fiber to all
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:33] <monrad> quite a bit cheaper than oure HP EVA SAN
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:52] <BrianJones> yeah... ours cost more than the 3 servers
[06-Sep-2007 14:42:12] <BrianJones> but its up to about 10TB now
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:07] <bzed> monrad: I have to talk with them about that, they're all big debian fans, so I guess that could happen
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:43] <monrad> bzed: well right now we think enterprise is a bit too pricy for us
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:56] <monrad> i would rather have they increase my salary
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:01] <BrianJones> for 1000 units... uh, yeah
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:03] <bzed> probably not before 2.2 though, I've thrown a number of tickets to them to get rid of this stupid ZENHOME environment variable
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:07] <bzed> monrad: ^
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:23] <creiht> bzed: You rock!
[06-Sep-2007 14:47:16] <monrad> nice
[06-Sep-2007 16:25:53] <Stuttergar> I'm working with the auto-discovery feature. It would be really great if that process was able to inventory hardware. For instance, CPU clockspeed, RAID controllers, and such.
[06-Sep-2007 16:26:00] <Stuttergar> It doesn't seem to be working out of the box
[06-Sep-2007 16:26:03] <Stuttergar> is there some trick?
[06-Sep-2007 16:44:42] <Stuttergar> ah
[06-Sep-2007 16:44:44] <Stuttergar> nevermind
[06-Sep-2007 16:45:00] <Stuttergar> assigning them to the Server/Linux class kicked things into gear.
[06-Sep-2007 16:45:05] <Stuttergar> I must have overlooked that in the docs.
[06-Sep-2007 17:02:13] <Mazzaradi> anybody there
[06-Sep-2007 17:03:24] <Mazzaradi> CPU utlization is not shown for linux machines
[06-Sep-2007 17:03:30] <Mazzaradi> anybody pls help
[06-Sep-2007 17:07:34] <Mazzaradi> ????? pls pls .... new to zenoss
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[06-Sep-2007 17:32:08] <Mazzaradi> zenoss installed on FC6
[06-Sep-2007 18:05:26] <dextius> hello, looking to switch to zenoss, from nagios... I'd like to use SNMP to monitor important processes, but I can't find out how to alter the polling frequency, is this possible?
[06-Sep-2007 18:14:15] <dextius> is there any documentation available for zenprocess? I can't seem to find anything on any of the wiki's, google, except for some little bits in the forums
[06-Sep-2007 18:41:36] <Bulwinkle> dextius: which frequency are you trying to change?
[06-Sep-2007 18:41:47] <dextius> well.. I'm not sure
[06-Sep-2007 18:42:22] <dextius> in Nagios, we have specific processes we monitor via ssh..
[06-Sep-2007 18:42:59] <dextius> each machine has a load out of what processes will be running that day.. (including what the notification periods and whatnot)
[06-Sep-2007 18:43:34] <Bulwinkle> dextius: what a complete pain in the ass
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:26] <dextius> I agree, but things tend to grow here.. and we have to move things around..
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:30] <dextius> ok..
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:57] <dextius> what if a process fails to start in the morning? Zenoss doesn't seem to have the ability to bind a specific process to a host?
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:06] <Bulwinkle> so, you want to monitor a certain process on a given server for a specific time of day?
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:15] <dextius> yes, and via snmp if possible..
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:27] <Bulwinkle> dextius: I don't think Zenoss can do that
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:42] <dextius> that's what it felt like.
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:45] <dextius> last question..
[06-Sep-2007 18:46:11] <dextius> I keep reading about a Nagios import process for zenoss, but can't find anything concrete, does it exist?
[06-Sep-2007 18:46:51] <Bulwinkle> dextius: I have written my own script, wish I could have found such an import process
[06-Sep-2007 18:47:36] <dextius> heh, yeah, I could probably do the same, if I knew the target ;-) ...
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:22] <dextius> ugh, I'd really like to stop using Nagios, we have SO many processes to watch, and it checks them ONE at a time via ssh.. very painful
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:25] <Bulwinkle> I can give you some help on that....
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:31] <Bulwinkle> one sec
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:09] <dextius> nah, that's ok.. it's basically the configuration I described earlier (specific processes on specific hosts, monitored at specific parts of the day)
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:52] <Bulwinkle> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/add-device/
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:55] <Bulwinkle> Look at that
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Add Device - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:38] <dextius> ooh, I love xmlrpc
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:54] <Bulwinkle> I've got to warn you, as of late IMHO ZenOSS hasn't been very stable from day to day... Its a beautiful thing when it works.
[06-Sep-2007 18:51:30] <dextius> uh oh, can't do that.. working in the financial market.. they get a little annoyed when we're blind..
[06-Sep-2007 18:51:48] <Bulwinkle> Once you get it working, don't touch it and you should be fine... by god of all gods don't upgrade it. Who know what the hell has changed from one release to the next.
[06-Sep-2007 18:52:12] <dextius> haha.. I tried that with Nagios once.. didn't go so well..
[06-Sep-2007 18:52:31] <dextius> ended up just building a new system with the new version, and ported our configuration by hand..
[06-Sep-2007 18:53:07] <Bulwinkle> I've been running Nagios for too many years to count and have never had as much trouble with it as I have with ZenOSS...
[06-Sep-2007 18:54:16] <dextius> yikes! ok, I think you've convinced me to stick with Nagios.. (too bad!)
[06-Sep-2007 19:15:50] <dextius> hey, thanks for your help with this.. I'm glad I got to talk with someone who's used it before I sunk another couple of days fighting with this thing..
[06-Sep-2007 19:58:13] <MoreDakka_> anyone here good at bash scripting/
[06-Sep-2007 20:00:36] <MoreDakka_> Well I'll post it anyways and see if someone can help me out.
[06-Sep-2007 20:02:24] <MoreDakka_> I'm looking to echo a variable into another variable then later in the script send that variable to an email message and to a file but I don't want to write the file while the variable is being created. I've tried echo $VAR1 >>$VAR2 and that gives me "ambiguous redirect ". help?
[06-Sep-2007 20:06:08] <MoreDakka_> I guess it doesn't even have to be variable to variable but ech "foo" >> $VAR1
[06-Sep-2007 20:06:13] <MoreDakka_> echo
[06-Sep-2007 20:14:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: try #BASH
[06-Sep-2007 20:17:35] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, that's where I am now....just thought someone here might have an idea on it (smrt peoples here.)
[06-Sep-2007 20:20:38] <kippi> hey
[06-Sep-2007 20:20:57] <kippi> has anyone got the bandwith graphs working with an netscreen?
[06-Sep-2007 20:22:32] <kgoedtel> why are you trying to echo a variable?
[06-Sep-2007 20:23:00] <kgoedtel> VAR2=$VAR1
[06-Sep-2007 20:44:18] <kippi> how easy is it to install new mibs?
[06-Sep-2007 21:44:27] <kraut75>
[06-Sep-2007 21:44:46] <kraut75> what's the upgrade procedure for an existing "from source" install?
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[06-Sep-2007 22:11:35] <kippi> has anyone got port stats working with an extreme switch?
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[07-Sep-2007 00:18:36] <fiXXXerMet> I am trying to follow http://howtoforge.com/zenoss_network_monitor_ubuntu and need help at step 12.
[07-Sep-2007 00:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing Zenoss Network Monitor on a Ubuntu Server | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials (at howtoforge.com)
[07-Sep-2007 00:18:51] <fiXXXerMet> adduser zenoss doesn't create a home directory, so where do I modify/edit .bashrc?
[07-Sep-2007 00:27:32] <fiXXXerMet> nevermind
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[07-Sep-2007 13:01:09] <pablo26> hi all
[07-Sep-2007 13:02:33] <pablo26> is any way to create user groups, for example to all the members of agroup give the same alerting rules
[07-Sep-2007 13:05:21] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: not yet
[07-Sep-2007 13:09:35] <pablo26> ok. i can wait
[07-Sep-2007 15:05:14] <kippi> has anyone got port stats working with an juniper firewall?
[07-Sep-2007 15:06:49] <pablo26> i've got port stats but in another firewall
[07-Sep-2007 15:08:16] <kippi> how did you get them to work?
[07-Sep-2007 15:08:46] <pablo26> i downloaded the mib to see wich values i had to read to get that info
[07-Sep-2007 15:09:55] <kippi> did you just install the mib and it work? or did you have to put the values in somewhere else?
[07-Sep-2007 15:10:24] <pablo26> i dindt install it i just use it to see them in my computer
[07-Sep-2007 15:10:44] <pablo26> and then i create a new template with the values as data sources
[07-Sep-2007 15:11:11] <kippi> ah ha
[07-Sep-2007 15:37:42] <kippi> pablo26: where did you find the mib?
[07-Sep-2007 15:38:44] <pablo26> on the manofacturer page
[07-Sep-2007 15:43:00] <pablo26> i have to register to be able to use pm kippi
[07-Sep-2007 15:49:59] <kraut75> interesting, so you have to build your own performance templates for that kind of stuff
[07-Sep-2007 15:50:30] <kraut75> I've got a bunch of oids from the cisco firewall mib that I want to monitor for my pixs
[07-Sep-2007 15:50:50] <kippi> can anyone see bandwidth information on here http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos80/swconfig80-net-mgmt/html/enterprise-traps2.html#1096236
[07-Sep-2007 15:51:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Juniper Networks Enterprise-Specific SNMP Version 1 Traps (at www.juniper.net)
[07-Sep-2007 15:51:24] <kraut75> not traps
[07-Sep-2007 15:52:06] <kippi> what am i looking for then?
[07-Sep-2007 15:52:27] <kraut75> kippi: does juniper have an mib browser?
[07-Sep-2007 15:53:14] <kippi> just looking
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:07] <kippi> will that help me find what i am looking for?
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:29] <kraut75> I'm not sure if the netscreens actually support interface statistics via snmp
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:43] <kraut75> for some reason I recall it not being an option, but I could be wron.g
[07-Sep-2007 15:55:47] <kippi> damm
[07-Sep-2007 15:57:12] <kraut75> check this out http://www.snmplink.org/src/MIB.html
[07-Sep-2007 15:57:21] <adytum-bot> Title: www.SNMPLink.org - Enterprises & MIBs links (at www.snmplink.org)
[07-Sep-2007 15:59:21] <kippi> thanks, i will have a read and see what i can get, as i also have the same problems on the extreme kit
[07-Sep-2007 16:00:00] <kraut75> looks like nsIfFlowTable has all of the information you need
[07-Sep-2007 16:00:49] <kippi> now to get that working with zenoss
[07-Sep-2007 16:01:08] <kraut75> right...
[07-Sep-2007 16:25:55] <kraut75> has anyone ever played around with something similar to thresholds, but rather than using a percentage of the maximum linespeed used a sliding window to detect spikes? Let's say for example an alert raised if link utilization suddenly jumps by 50%
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[07-Sep-2007 18:00:09] <fiXXXerMet> I have zenoss installed and running and I went to add a device. After hitting the "Add Device" button, I'm redirected to a DeviceLoader page that says Status, but my device is never added.
[07-Sep-2007 18:00:31] <fiXXXerMet> There are 5 or 6 MySQL tables and none of them have anything about that device.
[07-Sep-2007 18:06:25] <pablo26> if snmp is not available for that device, it wont add it unless u change the discovery method from snmp to none
[07-Sep-2007 18:07:51] <fiXXXerMet> let me double check - thanks
[07-Sep-2007 18:47:49] <fiXXXerMet> pablo26: Nope, SNMP is installed on the server (Windows 2003).
[07-Sep-2007 18:48:04] <fiXXXerMet> At least I think so - It's added in the Windows Components thingy
[07-Sep-2007 18:49:18] <fiXXXerMet> Adding it as None works, but as SNMP doesn't.
[07-Sep-2007 18:49:26] <fiXXXerMet> but --
[07-Sep-2007 18:50:06] <pablo26> to check if snmp is working i use a little windows program or u can use snmpwalk , there are a lot of examples on the documentation
[07-Sep-2007 18:50:19] <fiXXXerMet> I've started to read but there is a lot
[07-Sep-2007 18:51:48] <fiXXXerMet> brb to bug you some more.
[07-Sep-2007 19:07:18] <kippi> i need to add ifSpeed so that I can get juniper stats, how can i link this in to the graphs?
[07-Sep-2007 19:08:41] <pablo26> u have to do several steps but they are easy go to the device class u want to add a template (/network/router/juniper)
[07-Sep-2007 19:10:04] <pablo26> there u add data sources, create one called ifSpeed and insert the OID in the other filed
[07-Sep-2007 19:10:30] <pablo26> once u have a data source u can create a threshold and a graph using that source
[07-Sep-2007 19:29:32] <fiXXXerMet> So I need another program - ZenWin - to get the Windows server stats
[07-Sep-2007 19:41:32] <kippi> ok, i think i have added ifSpeed, how do i add it to my router?
[07-Sep-2007 19:48:59] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Or if you install the SNMPInofmant plugin, it can pull windows stats through snmp
[07-Sep-2007 20:02:00] * fiXXXerMet looks!
[07-Sep-2007 20:02:24] <kippi> I have created a performance template under /Devices/Network/Router/Junpier but my devices dosn't seem to be picking it up
[07-Sep-2007 20:03:07] <fiXXXerMet> creiht: http://www.snmp-informant.com/ ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:03:14] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
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[07-Sep-2007 20:05:52] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: yes
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:11] <fiXXXerMet> Our dell servers, for example, have OpenManage, which monitors the hard drives (arrays, etc) and such. Could I also get that information?
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:26] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: You can, but it will take a little more leg work
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:32] <fiXXXerMet> Figured.
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:40] <creiht> You will have to set up a monitoring template for it
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:42] <fiXXXerMet> I've been using Zenoss / snmp for about 2 hours so I'm kind of a noob
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:50] <creiht> We all were once
[07-Sep-2007 20:07:27] <creiht> We have a similar situation where I would like to monitor the OpenManage stuff, but just haven't had time to look at it closer
[07-Sep-2007 20:07:58] <fiXXXerMet> That is actually the primary reason my boss wanted me to setup a snmp monitor service
[07-Sep-2007 20:08:21] <Bulwinkle> If anyone is having problems with their Catalyst switch interface names not showing up properly I think I have a fix...
[07-Sep-2007 20:34:10] <kippi> ok, added mt graph, but its not drawing, anyideas?
[07-Sep-2007 20:34:12] <kraut75> ack, what do I have to do to get zenoss to poll 64bit counters for my interfaces
[07-Sep-2007 20:35:56] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: make sure you are using v2c in zProperties for all of the devices and change the OIDs
[07-Sep-2007 20:36:54] <kraut75> change the OIDs where?
[07-Sep-2007 20:37:22] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: there already is a ethernetCsmacd_64 template, can I just rename it to ethernetCsmacd?
[07-Sep-2007 20:37:32] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: yessir
[07-Sep-2007 20:38:52] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: hmm, so if I have a mixed environment I'm out of luck?
[07-Sep-2007 20:39:23] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: just put all of your snmp v1 in a different group and change the template there...
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:01] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: group or class?
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:18] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: sorry class
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:30] <fiXXXerMet> i'm so lost.
[07-Sep-2007 20:41:04] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: whats the problem?
[07-Sep-2007 20:41:40] <m11> hello
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:00] <Bulwinkle> hi m11
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:08] <m11> hi bulwinkle
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:35] <m11> i installed zenoss but it seems i cant access it
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:18] <m11> shouldnt it be under localhost/zenoss ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:19] <Bulwinkle> m11: how are you trying to access it?
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:24] <m11> web
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:27] <fiXXXerMet> Bulwinkle: I just don't understand snmp and I'm confused.
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:34] <Bulwinkle> m11: no localhost:8080
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:45] <m11> ah
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:49] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: ah... can't help you there
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:04] <kippi> ok, added mt graph, but its not drawing, anyideas?
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:21] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: the one problem I see is that every single device inherents the base templates, so I can't just rename /Devices Standard ethernet interface template with 75% utilization threshold
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:24] <kippi> its not even drawing the white outline
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:25] <kraut75> oops
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:31] <kraut75> sorry about that
[07-Sep-2007 20:45:06] <kraut75> so I can't just rename ethernetCsmacd_64 because it will affect every class
[07-Sep-2007 20:46:10] <m11> ok , i got some error on connect, but now is working fine, many tnx bulwinkle , i go check it
[07-Sep-2007 20:47:27] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: put all of your devices you need to monitor with 64 bit counters in one class and change the template at that class
[07-Sep-2007 20:54:17] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: I guess I'm still a bit confused by the layout. when I look at the device template in /devices/network/router/cisco I see all of the performance templates from /devices already and modifying ethernetCsmacd is going to modify it for all of /devices
[07-Sep-2007 20:54:34] <kraut75> what am I missing
[07-Sep-2007 20:55:30] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: yes.... go to /devices and click the checkbox for ethernetCsmacs and the hit the pulldown above it and click copy to.... and copy it to /devices/network/router/cisco
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:19] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: doh... seems so simple now. Thanks for clarifying.
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:44] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: you'll learn your way around really quickly after a few months
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:51] <Bulwinkle> Have a great weekend all
[07-Sep-2007 20:57:53] <fiXXXerMet> Hey! I see a graph, though it is empty.
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:07] <m11> how can i add my router to list of devices ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:36] <kraut75> m11: version 2.x I take it?
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:41] <kraut75> fiXXXerMet: you're almost there
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:52] <kraut75> fiXXXerMet: it takes three passes for na to disappear
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:03] <kraut75> so in about 15 minutes you should have visible data
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:04] <m11> kraut75 yes
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:31] <m11> 2.0.5.0
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:47] <kraut75> m11: there are three ways that I am aware of. You could add the network your devices are on and do auto discovery. I'm not a big fan of autodiscovery so I went a different route
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:52] <kraut75> m11: I used zenbatchload
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:05] <kraut75> m11: syntax is zenbatchload -i <file name>
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:25] <kraut75> a simple flat text file with the hostnames of your routers or IP addresses will do.
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:59] <m11> hmm
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:08] <m11> i will try autodiscover 1st
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:27] <kraut75> m11: one more thing
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:31] <m11> yes?
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:34] <kraut75> m11: do you have full BGP tables?
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:44] <m11> sry m8, i just installed :/
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:52] <m11> freshmeat
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:02] <kraut75> autodiscovery was beating the crap out of my routers because of the Routemap collector
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:26] <kraut75> full tables with 200k plus routes being walked is no joke.
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:50] <kraut75> I removed it from the collectors because I didn't see value in it.
[07-Sep-2007 21:03:15] <kraut75> m11: also, make sure you add your snmp community string in zproperties if you are using something other then public or private
[07-Sep-2007 21:04:06] <m11> that is too far of my knowledge m8
[07-Sep-2007 21:04:57] <m11> i see only option under managment add device
[07-Sep-2007 21:06:33] <m11> kraut75 , what should i add in snmp comunity ?
[07-Sep-2007 21:23:09] <kraut75> m11: your community if you have one set
[07-Sep-2007 21:23:15] <kraut75> community string rather
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[07-Sep-2007 22:29:29] <^KidUnix^> is anyone running zenoss on freebsd 6.2
[07-Sep-2007 22:29:30] <^KidUnix^> ?
[07-Sep-2007 23:10:19] <fiXXXerMet> Am I able to monior switches like the linksys EF3124 with zenoss?
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[09-Sep-2007 03:03:22] <fiXXXerMet> Any way to get snmp stats from a linksys router (EF3124) or my smoothwall box?
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[09-Sep-2007 04:04:23] <fiXXXerMet> OK, smoothwall doesn't have build in snmp but what about a switch that doesn't have an ip address?
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[10-Sep-2007 06:47:26] <_zack> hi all, how can I specify the version number in a zenpack?
[10-Sep-2007 06:47:45] <_zack> it seems to me that without doing anything zenoss assumes a zenpack is always version 0.1, isn't it?
[10-Sep-2007 12:21:56] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[10-Sep-2007 12:27:20] <fiXXXerMet> I <3 monitoring stuff.
[10-Sep-2007 12:39:11] <Robbadub> lo
[10-Sep-2007 12:55:58] <fiXXXerMet> Have any of you added a Sonicwall fiirewall to zenoss?
[10-Sep-2007 13:06:00] <fiXXXerMet> When I add the device (ip address) of the sonicwall, I get sent to the DeviceLoader page, but nothing shows up.
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:12] <Robbadub> hi
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:23] <Robbadub> Whazzup with th e sonic?
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:56] <Robbadub> Allow the zenos machine to monitor snmp on your sonic
[10-Sep-2007 13:31:44] <Robbadub> check this with the snmpwalk command from the moniroting system
[10-Sep-2007 13:32:33] <Robbadub> Do this with: snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic IPforsonic system
[10-Sep-2007 13:32:43] <Robbadub> -v1 is snmp version
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:02] <Robbadub> -c is cummunitystring (public if your community string is public)
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:21] <Robbadub> IPforsonic the IP for Sonic
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:29] <Robbadub> system = use stanrd system MIB
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:10] <Robbadub> Make sure the Sonic has your machine in de aloowed SNMP network mangers
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:18] <Robbadub> managers
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:27] <Robbadub> Pfftt.. my typo's are many 2day
[10-Sep-2007 13:52:27] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: let me try\
[10-Sep-2007 14:01:01] <xinity_mbp> i'm new to zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:01:21] <xinity_mbp> i was wondering if the enterprise version of zenoss has any oracle agents?
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:23] <Robbadub> Zenoss reads snmp
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:39] <Robbadub> snmp are messages and components in a MIB tree
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:53] <xinity_mbp> i know that Robbadub
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:07] <Robbadub> If you introduce the correct MIB's in zenos with zenmib
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:19] <Robbadub> zenoss can intepret the messages
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:23] <xinity_mbp> you mean zenoss can ONLY read snmp ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:46] <xinity_mbp> so what about the remote plugins ? what are they for ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:50] <Robbadub> no also it has ways of monitoring certain systems via ssha and telnet
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:57] <Robbadub> And windows boxes via WMI
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:19] <Robbadub> Too much to explain here . Read the admin guide
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:27] <Robbadub> I can't do the implementation for you
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:40] <xinity_mbp> that"s not what i was asking
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:43] <Robbadub> lol
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:59] <xinity_mbp> i was just wondering if zenoss can monitor an oracle database
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:02] <xinity_mbp> that's all
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:11] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/2636/md-2636-1.html
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:18] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Juniper Networks, Inc. (at www.oidview.com)
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:00] <Robbadub> All the MIB stating with OID's with 1.3.6.1.4.1.111 are for Oracle products
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:06] <Robbadub> starting
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:35] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/111/md-111-1.html
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:35] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: OK, problem was that I didn't bind SNMP to the LAN interface, so it's work now Except I'm not getting many statistics? The Perf tab is empty
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:42] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Oracle (at www.oidview.com)
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:58] <Robbadub> The perf tab will need about half an hour to fill up with stats
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:08] <fiXXXerMet> Makes sense
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:11] <Robbadub> Patience my dear Watson
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:33] <Robbadub> Good luck and enjoy ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:59] <fiXXXerMet> Might I need to add more mibs or oids or whatever for more sonicwall stats?
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:08] <Robbadub> yes
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:11] <xinity_mbp> well well well let's have a deeper look at the admin guide
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:46] <Robbadub> look for zenmib and don't 4get tu run it as zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:51] <Robbadub> su zenoss that is
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:25] <fiXXXerMet> okay
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:35] <Robbadub> upload mibs to folder in /blah/zenos/shared/mibs/site etc....
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:38] <Robbadub> then run zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:44] <Robbadub> sorry.. zenmib
[10-Sep-2007 14:14:06] <Robbadub> The Sonic doesn't seem to have specific MIB's so is probably covered with generic RFC MIB's
[10-Sep-2007 14:14:22] <Robbadub> Check the sonic docs
[10-Sep-2007 14:20:11] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: The SonicWALL security appliance supports SNMP v1/v2c and all relevant Management Information Base II (MIB) groups except egp and at.
[10-Sep-2007 14:20:14] <fiXXXerMet> Sound good?
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:02] <Robbadub> Yep
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:07] <fiXXXerMet> kewl
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:20] <Robbadub> So what do you see now in the device's status and OS screens?
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:46] <Robbadub> If not satisfied do a re-model of the device. ZenModel wil make a new model of the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:51] <fiXXXerMet> OS had all the Interfaces and 3 routes.
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:57] <Robbadub> excellent
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:58] <fiXXXerMet> Status has some info
[10-Sep-2007 14:22:11] <fiXXXerMet> OS Version, model, bu tnot serial, or any manufacturer
[10-Sep-2007 14:22:46] <Robbadub> ok. In the OS Screen uncheck the monitored box
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:04] <Robbadub> in IP services for instance
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:14] <Robbadub> Othewise you only see the monitored ports
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:42] <fiXXXerMet> The monitored box?
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <Robbadub> You can specify IP ports in the services classses settings that need to be alway monitored
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <Robbadub> The same goes for services
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:19] <Robbadub> yep
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:32] <Robbadub> if it's not there you can see everything
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:55] <Robbadub> But is acts as a filter to only show IP ports and services that need to be monitored
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:26] <fiXXXerMet> gosh I have a lot to learn
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:37] <Robbadub> It is a big implementation
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:50] <Robbadub> At the other hand. There is no need for a lot of other tools ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:27] <Robbadub> As soon as you understand the inherited settings through the paths it becomes obvious
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:56] <fiXXXerMet> Under hardware, Memory and CPUs is all blank as well
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:59] <Robbadub> tHE DEEPER YOU GO, THE MORE DETAILED YOU CAN SET PARAMETERS
[10-Sep-2007 14:27:03] <Robbadub> oops caps
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:17] <Robbadub> yes the same goes for my Netscreens
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:26] <xinity_mbp> just to be sure , the zenoss plugins rpms should be installed on monitored boxes right ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:43] <Robbadub> no
[10-Sep-2007 14:29:05] <Robbadub> The plugins should be installed on the zenoss server
[10-Sep-2007 14:29:39] <Robbadub> It uses the plugins as an extra method next tot snmp ans portscan to probe the devices and make a "model" of the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:30:30] <Robbadub> A device is modeled according to the probing methods you specify for the device class where you put the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:30:44] <Robbadub> See the device class you want on the tab zproperties
[10-Sep-2007 14:31:31] <fiXXXerMet> Cool I can see the throughput
[10-Sep-2007 14:31:59] <Robbadub> yes
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:25] <Robbadub> and you can define these graphs for any oid (gauge) you like
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:31] <xinity_mbp> my oh my seems to me that next stage after discovery is modeling
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:48] <Robbadub> indeed
[10-Sep-2007 14:33:39] <Robbadub> So first discover. The dicovered devices are puyt in a class called discovered. Then you move them to their definitive class where you have made settings for the way you want them modeled.
[10-Sep-2007 14:34:17] <Robbadub> For instance... switcheds in the trusted zone are modeled thru snmp and maybe telnet. In untrust zone you can use ssh only :-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:36:37] <Robbadub> For switches be sure you added the zenoss.snmp.InterFaceAliasMap plugin in the zproperties
[10-Sep-2007 14:37:07] <Robbadub> his way you can more easily identify the the interfaces in switches and (who knows) firewalls
[10-Sep-2007 14:37:29] <Robbadub> Zenoss 2.0.5. has improved interface descriptions with IP. But I havent checked that out yet
[10-Sep-2007 14:38:07] <Robbadub> I'm running production too.. although with Zenoss my grip on the situation has drastically improved
[10-Sep-2007 14:38:20] <Robbadub> So all is nice and quiet here ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:49:25] <xinity_mbp> Robbadub: you rocks , thanks a lot
[10-Sep-2007 14:54:04] <Robbadub> Np m8t
[10-Sep-2007 15:08:40] <xinity_mbp> WoW !!! amazing !!!
[10-Sep-2007 15:09:54] <Robbadub> What? My wife?
[10-Sep-2007 15:10:04] <Robbadub> Yeah sure ...
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:21] <Robbadub> Has anyone come up with a way to maintain the SQL server a bit
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:21] <xinity_mbp> lol no Zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:25] <xinity_mbp>
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:33] <Robbadub> My History table grows and grows
[10-Sep-2007 15:12:12] <Robbadub> Yeah I'm glad you like it. I have been using Compaq Insight Management and stuff like that but his is way better
[10-Sep-2007 15:13:22] <Robbadub> Also i'm now working with Dell systems, virtualising on Xen.
[10-Sep-2007 15:13:57] <Robbadub> The Xen Host can be equipped with the Dell Openmange software and If you load the MIB's you can see the entire Xen Server
[10-Sep-2007 15:14:24] <Robbadub> Buth Zenoss support for the Xen guests is not so good yet. Does anyone know what to expect?
[10-Sep-2007 15:15:43] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: !!
[10-Sep-2007 15:16:02] <fiXXXerMet> I have a number of Dell servers with OpenManage that I'd really like to add to zenoss and you seem to know how
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[10-Sep-2007 15:42:16] <fiXXXerMet> wtb Robbadub
[10-Sep-2007 15:52:41] <fiXXXerMet> Heading out for sushi - will bother you later.
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[10-Sep-2007 16:09:30] <xinity_mbp> ok i've added some new collector plugins to classes
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[10-Sep-2007 17:00:26] <fiXXXerMet> I just installed snmp-informant and I am confused. Is it a program or service that runs in windows?
[10-Sep-2007 17:03:13] <pablo26> hi all
[10-Sep-2007 17:03:45] <pablo26> how do i monitor a webpage?
[10-Sep-2007 17:06:45] <fiXXXerMet> brb
[10-Sep-2007 17:27:23] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: do you have the HTTP Monitor plugin installed?
[10-Sep-2007 17:28:45] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone here familiar with SNMP Informant?
[10-Sep-2007 17:28:56] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: what do you need to know
[10-Sep-2007 17:30:15] <fiXXXerMet> Bulwinkle: Well I installed it on my windows server but I don't see any programs or services running.
[10-Sep-2007 17:30:22] <fiXXXerMet> Or am I misunderstanding it entirely?
[10-Sep-2007 17:32:11] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: to the best of my knowledge it provides an interface between then SNMP service that windows installs. It provides more OIDs to poll. Make sense?
[10-Sep-2007 17:33:28] <fiXXXerMet> Kind of. I have been told that I need that program installed in order to allow zenoss to monitor the server?
[10-Sep-2007 17:33:55] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: if you want to be able to monitor SNMP on WIndows you need it installed
[10-Sep-2007 17:34:33] <fiXXXerMet> I have installed it
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:05] <fiXXXerMet> From Add or Remove Programs
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:18] <fiXXXerMet> But when I try to add the server to my zenoss box, nothing happens
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:32] <pablo26> yes Bulwinkle, but i dont know how to use it
[10-Sep-2007 17:36:48] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: I suggest you put all of your servers you want to monitor in the same group and add the http monitor to the template for that group
[10-Sep-2007 17:41:48] <pablo26> can i do a do a query and search for something in the result?
[10-Sep-2007 18:15:01] <chris_d> If I have an NFS server that's exporting filesystems to a bunch of other servers, how can I monitor the file system *just* on the NFS server and not on the servers that are mounting the exports?
[10-Sep-2007 18:45:05] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: That script does not do that
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[10-Sep-2007 20:26:28] <^KidUnix^> hello all
[10-Sep-2007 20:26:35] <^KidUnix^> anybody running zenoss on freebsd?
[10-Sep-2007 20:26:38] <^KidUnix^> 6.2
[10-Sep-2007 20:27:21] <^KidUnix^> anybody alive?
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[11-Sep-2007 00:23:16] <NolanG> Does anyone know how to upgrade the Zenoss 2.0.4 VM to 2.0.5?
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[11-Sep-2007 06:32:40] <chowmeined> why does this happen? Every time I try out zenoss, I get it setup and then it explodes into a huge mess of false positives and starts throwing up events for hundreds of devices?
[11-Sep-2007 08:47:54] <xinity_mbp> hy guys
[11-Sep-2007 08:49:44] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows why after changing the zsnmpcommynity in zproperties deviceclasse i've made, when i try a run command : snmpwalk , it still uses the public community ?
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[11-Sep-2007 09:24:38] <xinity_mbp> nobody knows ?
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[11-Sep-2007 11:46:01] <xinity_mbp> anybody here?
[11-Sep-2007 11:47:43] <xinity_mbp> what does exactly location groups are for ?
[11-Sep-2007 13:12:41] <drynish> Hello All
[11-Sep-2007 13:13:09] <drynish> Is there a way to gather the data more often than 5 minutes? I would like to gather it at each minute
[11-Sep-2007 13:13:41] <drynish> I changed the SNMP Performance Cycle Interval to 60 secs but the graphs are still slow to be updatede
[11-Sep-2007 13:14:46] <drynish> The reason why we're doing that way is that we want to collect some data at the client's house and our tech should not wait 5 minutes there waiting for the first update
[11-Sep-2007 13:14:59] <drynish> We want it right away appearing (or at least) not 5 minutes later
[11-Sep-2007 13:29:44] <b52laptop> i'm wondering if we can do real time monitoring?
[11-Sep-2007 13:29:57] <b52laptop> or i am askin g for too much :d
[11-Sep-2007 13:34:21] <b52laptop> ok the question was stupid
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:43] <drynish> I'm asking for 1 minute
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:50] <drynish> not real time
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:52] <drynish>
[11-Sep-2007 13:40:30] <b52laptop> ok boss
[11-Sep-2007 13:46:40] <drynish>
[11-Sep-2007 13:46:50] <drynish> Do you know a better way of doing real time monitoring?
[11-Sep-2007 13:47:11] <b52laptop> no sorry :d
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[11-Sep-2007 14:21:31] <hspcd> Howdy fellow Zenoss lovers!
[11-Sep-2007 14:21:47] <xinity_mbp> hy hspcd
[11-Sep-2007 14:22:45] <hspcd> Boy, the releases have been streaming out lately. Does anyone have any success or horror stories about upgrading from 2.0.3 to the newer revs that they would share? I am not sure I need/want to upgrade at this point.
[11-Sep-2007 14:23:10] <xinity_mbp> i did hspcd and it goes flowlessly
[11-Sep-2007 14:23:37] <hspcd> xinity_mbp: from what release to what release?
[11-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <xinity_mbp> i have some errors while discovering my networks , but i'll wait for the discover to end and take a closer look at the errors
[11-Sep-2007 14:24:12] <xinity_mbp> hspcd: from 2.0.4 to 2.0.6
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:07] <hspcd> xinity_mbp: so skipping a release or two is no problem... I guess you just did an rpm -Uvh?
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:19] <xinity_mbp> right
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:49] <hspcd> what about backing up my current environment first? I'd like to get that done before upgrading. Any tips on this?
[11-Sep-2007 14:26:52] <xinity_mbp> backup your mysql DB and the zenoss directory and then try to upgrade
[11-Sep-2007 15:25:14] <fiXXXerMet> If I installed snmp-informant on a windows box, do I need to install anything extra (mibs whatever) on the zenoss box/
[11-Sep-2007 15:25:15] <fiXXXerMet> ?
[11-Sep-2007 15:49:52] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: nope
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[11-Sep-2007 18:28:49] <_keturn> anyone heard things about ubuntu packages lately? I check in on the zenoss-packaging list on alioth from time to time, but it's been quiet lately.
[11-Sep-2007 19:44:38] <fiXXXerMet> Could anyone explain rights to me? Where/when should I use read, write and/or create?
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[11-Sep-2007 22:54:35] <oakleeman> who's awake?
[11-Sep-2007 23:10:49] <johns55> hi guys, has anyone seen this compile error before?
[11-Sep-2007 23:10:59] <johns55> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
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[11-Sep-2007 23:43:57] <Verilium> Do you have mysql installed?
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[12-Sep-2007 01:04:28] <chowmeined> drynish: real time monitoring would need an agent to work properly
[12-Sep-2007 02:43:59] <Trentster> hey all, could someone reccomend best practice when updating from 2.04 to 2.06 on centos 5, is there a recommended procedure to follow?
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[12-Sep-2007 05:26:57] <newbie1> Hello
[12-Sep-2007 05:42:55] <newbie1> Hello everybody
[12-Sep-2007 05:43:04] <newbie1> zenoss supports corba?
[12-Sep-2007 05:46:45] <Trentster> hey all, could someone reccomend best practice when updating from 2.04 to 2.06 on centos 5, is there a recommended procedure to follow?
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[12-Sep-2007 07:12:01] <saint> anybody around w/ much experience when it comes to alerting and escalation?
[12-Sep-2007 14:36:47] <GutterPunk> Hi. What would be the best choice of distro to install ZenOss on in a corporate environment. I'm used to doing everything with Debian, but in this case this seems to make things a bit more complicated. I'd like to have the system up to date without having ZenOss break, But I need a default kernel later than .20 because of my raid controller...
[12-Sep-2007 14:37:15] <GutterPunk> I tried Centos of course, with the same controller issues
[12-Sep-2007 14:41:59] <Bulwinkle> GutterPunk: I've written howtos for openSUSE and Fedora Core 6... Try opensuse 10.3 beta 3
[12-Sep-2007 14:47:29] <GutterPunk> Bulwinkle: this is a production environment... On the other hand of course, it won't do much more than some monitoring...
[12-Sep-2007 14:49:07] <GutterPunk> I usually refrain from using distros that get a new version revision every year without bothering about security updates for older versions.
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[12-Sep-2007 18:26:20] <johns55> hello all, i recieve this error when compiling from source, does anybody have an idea?
[12-Sep-2007 18:26:25] <johns55> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:14] <shakeSpear> hi
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:42] <shakeSpear> hi - would like to change the cycletime of the zenmodeler in ../etc/zenmodeler.conf
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:50] <shakeSpear> what's the correct syntax?
[12-Sep-2007 19:45:10] <monrad> anyone running zenoss on 64 bit?
[12-Sep-2007 19:56:47] <davemoore> Hello
[12-Sep-2007 19:57:35] <davemoore> I'm having an issue getting zenoss installed. I am getting a "database conflict" error and am not sure how to resolve it.
[12-Sep-2007 20:07:13] <davemoore> anyone around?
[12-Sep-2007 20:17:55] <indigo423> hi at all
[12-Sep-2007 20:17:59] <davemoore> hey hey
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:13] <indigo423> is here anyone with some experience with winexe for linux ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:27] <davemoore> not I and it seems pretty dead in here at the moment
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:40] <indigo423> ohh too late
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:03] <davemoore> Yep, trying to get zenoss going and hitting a wall, i suck at linux
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:20] <indigo423> 10:19pm at my time
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:28] <davemoore> only 3 here
[12-Sep-2007 20:23:32] <indigo423> you are new with zenoss ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:24:08] <indigo423> i search at the moment some opensource network-management/monitoring systems
[12-Sep-2007 20:30:48] <davemoore> yep
[12-Sep-2007 20:30:53] <davemoore> i haven't used it before
[12-Sep-2007 20:35:25] <indigo423> have you tested some other systems before?
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:06] <davemoore> not in this area
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:13] <b52laptop> me liked hyperic :d
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:22] <b52laptop> i liked hyperic :d
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:25] <davemoore> I'm just looking into it for our network engineer, im a programmer
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:28] <b52laptop> but it's java
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:38] <indigo423> in my company they prefer nagios at the moment, but hyperic is my favorite at the moment
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:45] <davemoore> cool, ill check it out
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:58] <davemoore> zenoss seems to have a lot of stuff, i just can't get it to work
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:15] <indigo423> i`m programming java
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:17] <b52laptop> indigo423, is it possible to do real time monitoring with hyperic ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:22] <b52laptop> indigo423, errrrr
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:28] <indigo423> not really
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:29] <b52laptop> indigo423, luck y:D
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:52] <b52laptop> i'm starting learning struts , it 's a little bit painfull
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:59] <b52laptop> indigo423, with zenoss ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:38:37] <indigo423> i don`t know my svn co is on the way
[12-Sep-2007 20:38:49] <davemoore> is hyperic oss?
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:11] <b52laptop> davemoore, yes
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:21] <indigo423> yes but with some restrictions in functionality
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:27] <davemoore> yeah that's the way it goes
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:33] <b52laptop> build on the top of java + jboss + struts for UI
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:48] <b52laptop> indigo423, what are the restrictions ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:51] <indigo423> i learn groovy and grails at the moment.
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:55] <davemoore> wish i could get zenoss going, seems to have everything we want
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:02] <davemoore> i do most of my programming in .NET or php
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:23] <indigo423> http://www.hyperic.com/downloads/
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Download Now - Free Open Source Network Monitoring Software | Hyperic (at www.hyperic.com)
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:45] <davemoore> yep, looking at it right now, what OS do you run it off of?
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:32] <indigo423> debian for most
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:37] <davemoore> k
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:43] <davemoore> <-- sucks at linus
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:45] <davemoore> linux
[12-Sep-2007 20:42:43] <davemoore> I've played around with centOS and ubuntu a bit, but when it comes to getting down to serious work on them. I lose it.
[12-Sep-2007 20:42:47] <indigo423> i work at an isp and we have no windows machines but i have nothing against windows servers
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:19] <indigo423>
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:44] <davemoore> I don't really care either way, we just use windows at my work so im stuck with it for the most part.
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:52] <indigo423> for testing hyperic i have downloaded the virtual machine and it runs out-of-the-box
[12-Sep-2007 20:44:14] <davemoore> yeah I tried the zenoss vm, but it didn't work all the way
[12-Sep-2007 20:44:51] <indigo423> has zenoss some features like autodiscovery and snmp-traphandling ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:15] <davemoore> no idea to be honest, i was trying to get it running and play around with it
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:35] <b52laptop> for zenoss , it use zope , and twissted + zenoss specific stuff .... it's too much learning man
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:44] <indigo423> the most things i hate in nagios are the millions of flat-configfiles, addons and terrible snmp features
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:11] <indigo423> i have already tested opennms some oppions here about that?
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:17] <davemoore> is hyperic pretty easy to get g oing?
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:46] <indigo423> sorry for the extra p
[12-Sep-2007 20:49:24] <indigo423> the web-ui is really powerfull with many ajax
[12-Sep-2007 20:50:18] <indigo423> it has an installer and it was not very complicate to install. nagios compiling is more difficult
[12-Sep-2007 20:52:17] <davemoore> well, time for me to head out, thanks for the tips on hyperic
[12-Sep-2007 20:52:36] <indigo423> no prob
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:40] <johns55> hi
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:46] <johns55> im getting this error when compiling
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:47] <johns55> unable to create the initial Zenoss object database
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:50] <johns55> any ideas?
[12-Sep-2007 21:11:28] <indigo423> i install at this time zenoss from svn
[12-Sep-2007 21:14:07] <indigo423> i have installed libmysqlclient15-dev and python-dev package + setting the environments before run the install script
[12-Sep-2007 21:15:10] <indigo423> zenoss ist building nagios-plugins ??
[12-Sep-2007 21:15:59] <indigo423> and installing nagios ???
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[12-Sep-2007 21:54:24] <johns55> i think u need a database set up
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:24] <fiXXXerMet> I just did simply a snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname and I got 1672 results
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:35] <fiXXXerMet> Looking through, they're exactlyw hat I want to monitor - but it doesn't tell me which OID to use
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:39] <fiXXXerMet> Only a name (like hrSystemProcesses)
[12-Sep-2007 22:12:55] <fiXXXerMet> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSystemProcesses.0 = Gauge32: 69 for example
[12-Sep-2007 22:13:00] <fiXXXerMet> How do I find that's UID?
[12-Sep-2007 22:13:01] <fiXXXerMet> er, oid
[12-Sep-2007 22:16:21] <fiXXXerMet> i'll be back tomorrow to ask!
[12-Sep-2007 23:12:41] <Verilium> fixx: snmpwalk -O n
[12-Sep-2007 23:12:44] <Verilium> Ah damn.
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[13-Sep-2007 00:45:27] <johns55> anyone know how to install httpmonitor plug in?
[13-Sep-2007 01:44:45] <oakleeman> anybody awake?
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[19-Sep-2007 00:45:51] <eurowerke> anyone around that can help me with something?
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[19-Sep-2007 07:27:39] <iuso> hi. how do i upgrade zenoss 2.0.5 to 2.0.6 from source?
[19-Sep-2007 07:33:31] <iuso> nevermind, found the document in the tarball
[19-Sep-2007 08:36:55] <Merciless> anyone around for a quick chat about mib's/wmi and disk monitoring
[19-Sep-2007 09:27:14] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[19-Sep-2007 09:27:25] <xinity_mbp> anyone uses zenoss with some poweredge servers ?
[19-Sep-2007 10:33:03] <baz> hi anybody here?
[19-Sep-2007 11:06:47] <progma> anyone using 2.0.6 yet
[19-Sep-2007 11:50:26] <xinity_mbp> progma: i do
[19-Sep-2007 11:54:37] <progma> xinity_mbp: did you upgrade from a previous version?
[19-Sep-2007 11:54:53] <xinity_mbp> i do from 2.0.4
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:08] <progma> i'm running 2.0.3 which has a few minor bugs so was wondering if it was worth it to go to 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:27] <progma> oh ok; where are docs on upgrade?
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:59] <xinity_mbp> progma: i only dl the rpm and done a rpm -Uvh zenoss rpms
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:13] <xinity_mbp> and that's all he automatically have done the migration
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:45] <progma> nice, ok
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:58] <progma> i have rhel so ishould be able to do that
[19-Sep-2007 12:12:40] <progma> xinity_mbp: yup no problem, am now running 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 12:12:52] <xinity_mbp>
[19-Sep-2007 12:21:48] <Folke> anyone here that run hpsim snmp against zenoss for perfmon?
[19-Sep-2007 12:22:34] <Folke> Arh, meant hpasm
[19-Sep-2007 12:23:41] <monrad> not yet but i have been testing it
[19-Sep-2007 12:23:44] <monrad> hpasm
[19-Sep-2007 12:25:31] <Folke> monrad: did you get any snmp perf from it?
[19-Sep-2007 12:26:24] <monrad> not per default, i had to find the oids i wanted to monitor myself
[19-Sep-2007 12:26:51] <Folke> monrad: Ah then add them into a template?
[19-Sep-2007 12:27:59] <monrad> yes
[19-Sep-2007 12:28:45] <Folke> monrad: thanx. Btw, do you have such template that you could share?
[19-Sep-2007 12:29:26] <monrad> no it got deleted i have not made a new yet
[19-Sep-2007 12:29:28] <monrad> :/
[19-Sep-2007 12:48:58] <Folke> monrad: np, I will check if I can do it and perhaps share it. Thanks for the help anyway!
[19-Sep-2007 12:49:45] <monrad> Folke: np
[19-Sep-2007 13:15:00] <Merciless> localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure
[19-Sep-2007 13:15:01] <Merciless> :s
[19-Sep-2007 13:17:06] <progma> do you guys use a centralized syslog/syslog-ng with the event console
[19-Sep-2007 13:47:44] <fiXXXerMet> I have a problem with my Load Averages graph. The numbers/scales are way off - I'm going to paste an example image.
[19-Sep-2007 13:48:15] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/gkwrxi.jpg there we are
[19-Sep-2007 13:48:24] <fiXXXerMet> A load of 200 million seems a bit high
[19-Sep-2007 13:52:53] <Merciless> localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure
[19-Sep-2007 13:52:55] <Merciless> anyone have any ideas
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:17] <fiXXXerMet> I had the same thing and was told to clear my heartbeats for that device.
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:21] <fiXXXerMet> No problems since.
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:24] <Merciless> how
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:16] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:47] <fiXXXerMet> Navigate to the device and it's in the drop down arrow thingy
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:49] <jb> anyone monitoring AIX hosts?
[19-Sep-2007 13:56:27] <fiXXXerMet> not eye
[19-Sep-2007 13:57:55] <Merciless> thanks fiXXXerMet
[19-Sep-2007 13:57:56] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 13:58:18] <Merciless> how about
[19-Sep-2007 13:58:19] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[19-Sep-2007 13:59:56] <fiXXXerMet> No idea
[19-Sep-2007 13:59:58] <fiXXXerMet> I'm a noob myself
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:16] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:18] <Merciless> fair enough
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:22] <Merciless> 1 out of 2 aint bad
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:30] <Bulwinkle> *YAWN*
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:38] <Bulwinkle> whats going on in here today?
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:54] <Merciless> fuck all
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:56] <Merciless> and hi Bulwinkle how are you
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:06] <Bulwinkle> same as always... good Merciless
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:09] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:11] <Merciless> good good
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:22] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121) <--- that just show that WMI isnt working properly?
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:40] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: probably... let me look
[19-Sep-2007 14:57:10] <Merciless> kk
[19-Sep-2007 14:58:28] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: are you running 2.0.6?
[19-Sep-2007 14:59:29] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to have a threshold only trigger of the value is above a limit for a certain amount of time?
[19-Sep-2007 14:59:50] <fiXXXerMet> Like, CPU utilizaton > 80 & time > 5 minutes?
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:20] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: you can look at how often it polls and then extrapolate that to the "Count" field
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:46] <Merciless> yes Bulwinkle
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:48] <Merciless> 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:14] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: there is a thread going about that.... I'd keep an eye on it. Have you had this problem before you upgraded?
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:47] <Merciless> tbh, i stopped using it but no never had this problem with 2.0.4
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:52] <fiXXXerMet> It poles every 5 minutes so if I wanted it to trigger a warning after 1 hour, I'd set the Escalate Count field to 12?
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:18] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: yes... 5 * 12 = 60 minutes / 1 Hour
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:25] <fiXXXerMet> cool
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:41] <fiXXXerMet> Going to send me an email when the lights are turned on for longer than an hour ("Turn them off!")
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:55] <Merciless> your lights have mibs?
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:58] <Merciless> expensive house
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:01] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:05] <fiXXXerMet> lol no
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:14] <fiXXXerMet> But we have an environment monitor with a light sensor
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:20] <Merciless> ah ok
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:36] <fiXXXerMet> Which, for some reason, measures light on a 0 - 100 scale
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:06] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:17] <Merciless> maybe it was meant to be 0/1
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:19] <Merciless> and someone did a typo
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:20] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 15:16:21] <Bulwinkle> Could be the difference from ambient light from outside (windows)....
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:17] <Merciless> Bulwinkle
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:23] <Merciless> wats the exact diff between paid for and free zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:23] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:33] <Merciless> prob gna implement it in our network ya see
[19-Sep-2007 15:18:05] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: support.... you get it with Paid.... and there is some additional functionality (CMDB and such) also...
[19-Sep-2007 15:19:47] <Merciless> I guess the only reason we'd pay is for the support
[19-Sep-2007 15:19:50] <Merciless> and you know i need a lot
[19-Sep-2007 15:20:56] <Merciless> the biggest prob is replacing all the snmp information oid's with default snmp ones that do similar jobs haha
[19-Sep-2007 15:21:03] <Merciless> we cant install snmp informant on customer equip
[19-Sep-2007 15:21:50] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: they are asking for ~ $100US per device so.... We've gone with the "If it doesn't work, you're SOL" support model.
[19-Sep-2007 15:22:19] <Merciless> SOL?
[19-Sep-2007 15:23:33] <creiht> Bulwinkle: You always have us
[19-Sep-2007 15:23:51] <Bulwinkle> creiht: yes... ALWAYS
[19-Sep-2007 15:24:23] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 15:24:26] <Merciless> its been empty in here today
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:08] <Bulwinkle> I've been trying to get someone to fix the Windows servers not being polled problem for over a month now.... even put in a ticket...
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:17] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:20] <Merciless> and u pay?
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:52] <Bulwinkle> no
[19-Sep-2007 15:26:25] <Bulwinkle> I'd gladly pay if I actually though I might get the support that the price should provide me....
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:16] <Bulwinkle> Once the updates get under control.... (stop breaking two things for each fix)... things will be better (that has been my mantra for months)
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:20] <progma> is zenoss hiring ;>
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:52] <Bulwinkle> progma: they were...
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:59] <Bulwinkle> dunno about lately
[19-Sep-2007 15:29:28] <Bulwinkle> No specific jobs posted but, "We're always looking for people with energy, talent, and creative drive, balanced with a commitment to precision and quality." .... who the hell isn't
[19-Sep-2007 15:29:52] <Bulwinkle> creiht: are you a ZenOSS employee?
[19-Sep-2007 15:31:22] <Bulwinkle> BBIAB - Meeting
[19-Sep-2007 15:35:21] <creiht> Bulwinkle: nope
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[19-Sep-2007 17:18:51] <fiXXXerMet> I'm still having trouble formatting the values that I am graphing. My temperature sensors report in celsius like "250" which actually means 25.0, however, the graphs are showing as 250.00
[19-Sep-2007 17:19:44] <MoreDakka> you could try to create a cdef to divid the number by 10.
[19-Sep-2007 17:19:57] <MoreDakka> I know how to do it in Cacti but not in zenoss :-/
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:40] <kgoedte1> you need to format the values
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:42] <kgoedte1> http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdgraph_graph.en.html
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:56] <adytum-bot> Title: RRDtool - rrdgraph_graph (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[19-Sep-2007 17:24:24] <fiXXXerMet> So the format is %5.2lf%s %5.2lf means "prints numbers like 12345.6789, with optional field width and precision." so 12345.12? And %s adds k or m or whatever
[19-Sep-2007 17:24:42] <fiXXXerMet> So I'd want %2.1lf ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:25:33] <fiXXXerMet> still not right
[19-Sep-2007 17:25:48] <kgoedte1> ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:12] <fiXXXerMet> %2.1lf is showing 430 as 430.0 and not 43.0
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:18] <MoreDakka> rrdtool probably doesn't see that number as 25.0 it sees it as 250.
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:45] <fiXXXerMet> You're right
[19-Sep-2007 17:27:28] <fiXXXerMet> How acn I change that?
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:00] <MoreDakka> you could try to divide by 10.
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:26] <MoreDakka> a, 10, / <--as a cdef function in cacti, zenoss will probably take that differently.
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:42] <xinity_mbp> anyone has any experience using other nagios plugins than check_http or check_dns ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:42] <kgoedte1> takes it the same
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:09] <kgoedte1> ive been trying to get check_ntp to work, but the datapoint doesnt show up when i create a zenpack
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:19] <kgoedte1> and i have no idea why
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:44] <xinity_mbp> kgoedte1: hum i see
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:29] <kgoedte1> i used dnsmonitor as a guide and modified the python and xml
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:45] <kgoedte1> the xml template is right, but no datapoint
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:51] <kgoedte1> and no errors
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:02] <xinity_mbp> weird
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:11] <kgoedte1> have you created any?
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:37] <xinity_mbp> not a zenpack , but i'm trying to get check_megaraid for nagios plugins, working with zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:50] <kgoedte1> as a command?
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:56] <kgoedte1> or a datasource
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:12] <xinity_mbp> just a command, it may not return any data usable to be graphed
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:30] <kgoedte1> so what is the problem you have?
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:55] <xinity_mbp> understanding how command creation works
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:07] <kgoedte1> ahh
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:11] <kgoedte1> it's pretty simple
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:42] <kgoedte1> what part arent you sure about?
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:08] <xinity_mbp> i wasn't sure if datasource is always needed
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:14] <kgoedte1> well
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:18] <xinity_mbp> or if it's only needed for graphs
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:38] <kgoedte1> hmm
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:52] <kgoedte1> do you have a sample output from it?
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:16] <kgoedte1> as far as i know there is nothing you can do with string data in zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:52] <xinity_mbp> well it just returns OK, WARNING or CRITICAL
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:56] <xinity_mbp> no data string
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:22] <xinity_mbp> for example
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:35] <xinity_mbp> i didn't catch for escalation count is for ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:44] <xinity_mbp> what does mean escalation count 5 ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:41:23] <kgoedte1> like how many occurences trigger an alert
[19-Sep-2007 17:41:25] <MoreDakka> fiXXXerMet: Did that divide by 10 fix your issue?
[19-Sep-2007 17:42:04] <xinity_mbp> kgoedte1: i see if i set it to 10 , everytime to treshold goes up 10 times zenoss will trigger an alert ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:43:19] <fiXXXerMet> CDEF:a,10,/ is all I need to enter?
[19-Sep-2007 17:44:52] <xinity_mbp> oups time to go home see ya later on guys
[19-Sep-2007 17:47:19] <MoreDakka> fiXXXerMet: I'm guessing that the format will remain %0.2lf%s but I'm not sure where to enter the math for that :-/
[19-Sep-2007 17:47:26] <MoreDakka> haven't done it in zenoss before, just cacti
[19-Sep-2007 18:25:40] <fiXXXerMet> Any of you monitoring smoothwall servers? I'd like to graph the bandwidth/throughput
[19-Sep-2007 18:25:43] <fiXXXerMet> But I can't find those oids
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:25] <nws> nice size group
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:43] <nws> is this place active?
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:50] <kgoedte1> never
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:52] <nws> heh
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:25] <nws> im going through the data migration from 1.1 to 2.0
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:38] <kgoedte1> 2.1 beta out!
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:50] <nws> and when i run bin/python zen2dump.py, i receive an error
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:58] <nws> kgoedte1: i know, thats what im trying to install
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:15] <kgoedte1> cool, yah im about to right now
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:48] <nws> this is the error i get
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:49] <nws> http://pastebin.com/d733923ab
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:57] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2007 19:22:40] <kgoedte1> i have no idea with that, i never bothered migrating
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:00] <kgoedte1> i just wiped and started over since i didnt have much
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:24] <nws> yea...
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:28] <nws> thats not gonna happen here
[19-Sep-2007 19:25:09] <kgoedte1> and you are running this as zenoss user i hope
[19-Sep-2007 19:30:11] <nws> yea
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:23] <nws> hahaha
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:28] <nws> and this link is broken
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:29] <nws> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:33] <nws> what a POS
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Sep-2007 20:15:47] <fiXXXerMet> That mapping feature in 2.1 is super cool
[19-Sep-2007 20:16:02] <nws> fiXXXerMet: did you have any trouble upgrading?
[19-Sep-2007 20:16:44] <fiXXXerMet> Haven' done so yet - just saw the screen shots
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:16] <nws> let me know if you run into issues with the zen2dump.py
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:36] <nws> im seeing that im not the only one with errors from that script
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:47] <nws> its just that none of them are uniform so far
[19-Sep-2007 20:18:02] <fiXXXerMet> okay
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:23] <kgoedte1> lots of stuff is broken for me in 2.1
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:35] <nws> hah
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:42] <nws> this is getting better and better
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:51] <nws> what is "broken" for you?
[19-Sep-2007 20:21:08] <kgoedte1> the example zenpacks dont work, locations panel in dashboard errors
[19-Sep-2007 21:40:51] <fiXXXerMet> How do I change the default snmp polling time?
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[19-Sep-2007 23:57:16] <z00dax> hello
[19-Sep-2007 23:58:29] <z00dax> humm, actually - i shall be back later
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[20-Sep-2007 00:22:53] <kanderson> Hello. Has any experienced the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA' when zenoss attempts to send alerts?
[20-Sep-2007 03:00:59] <kanderson> Has any experienced the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA' when zenoss attempts to send alerts?
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[20-Sep-2007 10:54:28] <twarnick> hi, i have now running the beta 1, but cannot discover any devices. it runs on a error in "ZDeviceLoader.py". is there a patch or workaround availby?
[20-Sep-2007 11:12:20] <twarnick> have any body the same error?
[20-Sep-2007 11:26:57] <Folke> twarnick: I had the same problem when testing it in vmware app,
[20-Sep-2007 11:27:58] <twarnick> i have it also running as vmware app.
[20-Sep-2007 11:31:36] <twarnick> have any body beta 1 running without vmware? (and have this error)?
[20-Sep-2007 12:04:44] * z00dax back
[20-Sep-2007 12:04:51] <z00dax> so guys, any of you based in London ?
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:00] <z00dax> also, does anyone know when Chris is around ?
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:06] * z00dax lurks
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:34] <Folke> twarnick: sry, only with appliance.
[20-Sep-2007 12:35:36] <fiXXXerMet> To uninstall zenoss, can I just rm -r /usr/local/zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 12:43:07] <z00dax> fiXXXerMet: rpm -e might work too
[20-Sep-2007 12:43:51] <fiXXXerMet> I didn't install from a package
[20-Sep-2007 15:22:33] <jp10558> Hey, with monitoring Windows machines, is there any way to specify what event log entries get brought over as events in Zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 15:36:04] <fiXXXerMet> Where do I change the default snmp polling time?
[20-Sep-2007 17:15:21] <pablo26> hi all
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[20-Sep-2007 17:16:19] <pablo26> is any way to monitor a web page native from zenoss, or i have to use check_http from nagios?
[20-Sep-2007 17:22:15] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to have zenoss send a test email?
[20-Sep-2007 17:23:13] <pablo26> on every user u have next to the mail a test button, is that what u want?
[20-Sep-2007 17:23:14] <davetoo> I can think of several ways to make zenoss send a test email.
[20-Sep-2007 17:23:27] <davetoo> That's the most obvious one
[20-Sep-2007 17:24:06] <davetoo> Settings->Users (or /ZenUsers)
[20-Sep-2007 17:24:07] <fiXXXerMet> Well I didn't know that!
[20-Sep-2007 17:24:15] <fiXXXerMet> Only user I've used is admin
[20-Sep-2007 17:25:06] <pablo26> how does zenoss monitor public available services?
[20-Sep-2007 17:32:48] <kanderson> Hi all, has anybody seen the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN ' when zenoss sends alerts?
[20-Sep-2007 17:33:30] <davetoo> No, where does that show up? And does it prevent the alert mail from being sent?
[20-Sep-2007 17:34:58] <kanderson> yes
[20-Sep-2007 17:35:30] <kanderson> If you could reference this post.... http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3326 ... I have all the details
[20-Sep-2007 17:35:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Sendmail, Zenoss, and missing MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETR (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Sep-2007 17:36:07] <kanderson> But it shows up in maillog when an alert is sent
[20-Sep-2007 17:36:45] <kanderson> However, the test email (under ZenUsers /admin ) works fine
[20-Sep-2007 17:37:00] <kanderson> I dont know if it is a sendmail conf or zenoss issue
[20-Sep-2007 17:37:14] <kanderson> If you can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it
[20-Sep-2007 17:38:15] <davetoo> sorry, I'm not gonna have time to troubleshoot that
[20-Sep-2007 17:38:29] <kanderson> np, I understand
[20-Sep-2007 17:38:37] <kanderson> been working on it for a while myself
[20-Sep-2007 17:43:28] <davetoo> All I can offer is: look at the code for .../Products/ZenUtils/Utils.py (searched for the string "sendmail" in a find command)
[20-Sep-2007 17:43:55] <kanderson> ty
[20-Sep-2007 18:12:37] <jsm> i'm interested in upgrading from zenoss 2.03 to the latest, is there anything special i have to do besides installing the new RPM?
[20-Sep-2007 18:14:51] <davetoo> What do the release notes say? ( I don't think so, but I always install from source. )
[20-Sep-2007 18:17:22] <jsm> pablo26: what do you mean? public available sources?
[20-Sep-2007 18:17:29] <jsm> davetoo: relnotes didn't say anything
[20-Sep-2007 18:17:52] <jsm> davetoo: i have it running on a VM.. i suppose i'll just back the whole VM up and then try the upgrade
[20-Sep-2007 18:22:17] <davetoo> pablo26: yes, I always install from the tarball, not the RPM or the VMWare instance.
[20-Sep-2007 18:26:00] <fiXXXerMet> I can't get emails working. I click on test and the page just sits there with an hour glass?
[20-Sep-2007 18:26:07] <fiXXXerMet> Which log can I look at?
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:19] <pablo26> jsm: for example i want to check the response for www.ilocal.nl/rubriek/hotels
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:30] <jsm> pablo26: easy
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:37] <jsm> pablo26: just setup a httpmonitor
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:55] <jsm> pablo26: add your own custom class that doesn't use snmp or ping checks
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:02] <jsm> call it /ExternalSites
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:04] <pablo26> can i search for some text on the page or just see the page error?
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:06] <jsm> or something
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:10] <jsm> pablo26: yup
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:21] <jsm> it will do regexp
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:38] <pablo26> i like that
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:49] <jsm> i can walk you through it
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:53] <jsm> it's a little tricky the first time
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[20-Sep-2007 18:33:37] <pablo26> ok, where do i start?
[20-Sep-2007 18:33:46] <jsm> first create a new class
[20-Sep-2007 18:34:06] <jsm> go to Devices
[20-Sep-2007 18:34:31] <jsm> and hit the \/ at Sub-Devices and select Add New Organizer
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:15] <jsm> call it ExternalServers
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:19] <jsm> or whatever you like
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:33] <pablo26> done
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:45] <jsm> ok, now go to that new class
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:49] <jsm> and go to the zProperties tab
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:15] <jsm> zPingMonitorIgnore = True
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:22] <jsm> zSnmpMonitorIgnore = True
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:50] <jsm> i think that's it
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:56] <pablo26> can i just monitor the site without doing any check on the server?
[20-Sep-2007 18:37:04] <jsm> yeah, that's why you are setting those to True
[20-Sep-2007 18:37:15] <jsm> True means, "yes ignore ping and snmp"
[20-Sep-2007 18:37:57] <pablo26> sorry, taht was a stupid question
[20-Sep-2007 18:38:35] <jsm> did you get that part done?
[20-Sep-2007 18:38:56] <pablo26> yes
[20-Sep-2007 18:39:25] <jsm> Ok, now go to "add device" and add www.ilocal.nl, and make sure you assign it to the new class you just created
[20-Sep-2007 18:39:41] <jsm> save you zproperties, obviously
[20-Sep-2007 18:40:16] <jsm> When you add the device, set Discovery Protocol to "none" and set your Device Class Path
[20-Sep-2007 18:40:39] <pablo26> done
[20-Sep-2007 18:40:56] <jsm> ok
[20-Sep-2007 18:41:14] <jsm> ok, now go to the device list and click on that box you just added
[20-Sep-2007 18:41:57] <jsm> click the drop down arrow -> More -> Templates
[20-Sep-2007 18:42:29] <jsm> should be a blank list of templates?
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:09] <pablo26> just device that monitos sysuptime, but snmo is disabled so i shouldn do anithing
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:36] <jsm> um
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:52] <jsm> yeah i don't have any other templates on the external sites i monitor
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:53] <jsm> just one
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:59] <jsm> that's what i need you to create
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:01] <jsm> add a new template
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:04] <jsm> call it httpMonitor
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:34] <pablo26> done
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:47] <jsm> ok now click on that template
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:52] <jsm> and add a new datasource
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:59] <jsm> you can call it httpMonitor as well
[20-Sep-2007 18:45:14] <jsm> the Source Type will be COMMAND
[20-Sep-2007 18:45:58] <jsm> the command will be: check_http -H ${dev/id} -u /rubriek/hotels
[20-Sep-2007 18:46:10] <jsm> actually
[20-Sep-2007 18:46:28] <jsm> if you wanted to check for the word "Amsterdam" it would be
[20-Sep-2007 18:46:37] <jsm> check_http -H ${dev/id} -u /rubriek/hotels -r Amsterdam
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:03] <pablo26> ok, but that was using nagios if i'm not wrong
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:17] <jsm> yeah, zenoss can use nagios plugins
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:36] <pablo26> and what is httpMonitor the plug in for zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:57] <jsm> the httpMonitor plugin is kinda broken at version 1.0... unless you want to get the latest version from CVS
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:02] <jsm> i just use this one for now
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:04] <jsm> works fine
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:15] <pablo26> ok, i'm using nagios currently
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:26] <jsm> so set th eevent key to Web Check or something
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:38] <jsm> and your datapoints are size,time, both with GAUGE types
[20-Sep-2007 18:50:41] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[20-Sep-2007 18:50:45] <pablo26> those are all the datapoints i have? what about if a get an error i.e. 404
[20-Sep-2007 18:50:58] <jsm> you'll get an alert
[20-Sep-2007 18:51:29] <jsm> you'll get an alert if it's anything but a 200 response
[20-Sep-2007 18:51:35] <jsm> or if it doesn't match your string
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:00] <pablo26> what languaje does it use for the regex?
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:14] <jsm> i dunno, i've only done english
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:29] <jsm> or you mean programming language?
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:36] <pablo26> yes
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:58] <jsm> i think standard perl regexps, not sure.. i only check for a single word, nothing fancy
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:02] <pablo26> it would be very intresting to get the value of a tag in an xml
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:12] <jsm> pablo26: you can run http_check from the command line for more info
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:18] <pablo26> i'll check that on nagios documentation
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:22] <jsm> sorry check_http
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:48] <jsm> and lastly, you can setup a graph and threshold if you want, using the datapoints you created
[20-Sep-2007 18:54:01] <pablo26> yeah to make it look nicer
[20-Sep-2007 18:54:18] <jsm> and also, you can buy me an Amstel next time i'm in Amsterdam
[20-Sep-2007 18:54:59] <pablo26> in fact i can get u a quilmes when u come to argentina
[20-Sep-2007 18:55:21] <jsm> pablo26: hah, even better. I haven't been to South America at all.
[20-Sep-2007 18:55:58] <pablo26> where are u from?
[20-Sep-2007 18:56:05] <jsm> i'm in the States
[20-Sep-2007 18:56:19] <jsm> wash, dc
[20-Sep-2007 18:56:49] <pablo26> oh if u told me a couple of week early i was in herndon, va
[20-Sep-2007 18:57:05] <jsm> oh yeah, right down the road from here
[20-Sep-2007 18:57:34] <pablo26> i went many times to dc
[20-Sep-2007 18:57:42] <pablo26> very nice city
[20-Sep-2007 18:58:10] <jsm> thanks, I like it here. most people don't know much about it other than the monuments and such.
[20-Sep-2007 18:58:57] <pablo26> i know very much i get lost many times
[20-Sep-2007 18:59:12] <jsm> yeah it's easy to get lost in.. streets going in every direction
[20-Sep-2007 19:55:18] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[20-Sep-2007 20:07:18] <cannonball> Hey all. I have a perl daemon that opens port 8005 so we can monitor it with our existing mrtg setup. I'm trying to get zenoss to monitor it the same way.
[20-Sep-2007 20:07:37] <cannonball> When I go into /Services/IpService/tcp_08005, it shows the instances on all of the machines.
[20-Sep-2007 20:09:04] <cannonball> So I created a sub-service called "recreateConf.pl" and put tcp_08005 as the Service Key.
[20-Sep-2007 20:09:37] <cannonball> I then modeled a few of the devices. But they did not pick up this new sub-service. I must have missed a step, but I'm not sure where.
[20-Sep-2007 20:11:23] <cannonball> I'm sure it's related, but when am in the /Services root, it lists the sub-service I added, but it has 0 for the port. It doesn't let me directly change the port anywhere in there, I assumed that putting tcp_08005 as the Service Key would take care of that.
[20-Sep-2007 20:42:23] <Lorework> hey did anyone d/l the Core 2.1 Beta?
[20-Sep-2007 20:42:32] <Lorework> the vmware version
[20-Sep-2007 20:43:20] <Lorework> Cause i just ran it and I'm getting some weird "rPath appliance Platform"
[20-Sep-2007 20:54:15] <fiXXXerMet> What table holds user information?
[20-Sep-2007 21:04:49] <fiXXXerMet> Also, zenoss has stopped gathering snmp info for one device (localhost)
[20-Sep-2007 21:31:17] <raid900> can someone tell me the username and password for the appliance. https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8003
[20-Sep-2007 21:45:50] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[20-Sep-2007 22:09:42] <jbs123> Hello
[20-Sep-2007 22:10:29] <jbs123> Anyone here for a quick (I hope) WMI question?
[20-Sep-2007 22:23:30] <chowmeined> I am trying to add a device using XML-RPC with python, I am following the example howto, the request returns 0 (good).. but the device doesn't appear in zenoss
[20-Sep-2007 23:39:31] <eurowerke> man o man
[20-Sep-2007 23:39:45] <eurowerke> my local irc client refuses to work on irc
[20-Sep-2007 23:40:02] <eurowerke> i can connect and everything to a network but then when I try to join a channel it never does
[20-Sep-2007 23:41:35] <z00dax> eurowerke: just use telnet
[20-Sep-2007 23:41:49] <eurowerke> yeah I'm ssh'd to another box
[20-Sep-2007 23:41:52] <eurowerke> currently
[20-Sep-2007 23:42:01] <z00dax> no
[20-Sep-2007 23:42:04] <z00dax> i meant telnet for irc
[20-Sep-2007 23:45:15] <eurowerke> ?
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:42] <chowmeined> wow
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:46] <chowmeined> zenoss is awesome
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:53] <eurowerke> what'd you get it to do?
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:56] <eurowerke> I wish I could say the same... grr
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:06] <chowmeined> i didnt realize how nice the backend is
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:11] <chowmeined> i can script _anything_
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:24] <chowmeined> every piece of information is scriptable
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:38] <eurowerke> I just added a DNS entry to the server it's running on and that seems to have caused a bunch of problems
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:54] <chowmeined> yea some things are quirky
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:01] <chowmeined> like.. dont monitor the local machine
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:04] <chowmeined> that never works right
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:13] <eurowerke> how do I disable that?
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:15] <eurowerke> it's weird
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:31] <eurowerke> there's 2 DNS A records for the machine zenoss is running on
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:48] <chowmeined> just delete the localhost device
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:51] <eurowerke> and it somehow started to recognize them both and monitor them both
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:18] <eurowerke> so i think with the conflict of there being 2 different A records for the machine, zenoss freaks and says one is down
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:19] <chowmeined> probably does a dns zone transfer
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:46] <eurowerke> think I'll delete the other one first
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:51] <eurowerke> see if that helps
[20-Sep-2007 23:55:43] <eurowerke> telnet doesn't work for me, z00dax
[20-Sep-2007 23:55:44] <eurowerke> lol
[20-Sep-2007 23:55:54] <eurowerke> disconnects after about 40sec
[20-Sep-2007 23:56:45] <eurowerke> the MTU is set kinda low here... maybe that's why the local client doesn't work
[20-Sep-2007 23:56:54] <z00dax> what ? you cant type PONG fast enough ?
[20-Sep-2007 23:57:10] <eurowerke> while I"m trying to set the parms it just disconnects
[20-Sep-2007 23:57:19] <eurowerke> says timeout
[20-Sep-2007 23:58:38] <z00dax> i bet thats identd thing
[20-Sep-2007 23:58:47] <z00dax> ah well, use irssi or bitchx then
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:27] <eurowerke> using epic on the remote server
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:29] <eurowerke> heh
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:38] <eurowerke> inside this network it surely won't work
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:45] <eurowerke> crazy
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[21-Sep-2007 00:19:56] <Snake-eyes> is there any way to get zenoss to stop phoning home (version 1.1.2) ?
[21-Sep-2007 00:20:19] <z00dax> leave the home phone off the hook
[21-Sep-2007 00:20:34] * z00dax is easily amused
[21-Sep-2007 00:23:51] <z00dax> right, i'll get my coat
[21-Sep-2007 00:56:59] <Snake-eyes> ...
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[21-Sep-2007 04:20:43] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Code Monkey - 19 Sep, 04:04PM
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[21-Sep-2007 04:50:25] <m11> morning all
[21-Sep-2007 04:53:42] <chowmeined> hi
[21-Sep-2007 05:58:22] <m11>
[21-Sep-2007 05:58:26] <m11> sry was afk
[21-Sep-2007 05:58:46] <m11> i am having little troubles in installing zenoss
[21-Sep-2007 05:59:19] <m11> installing simplejson
[21-Sep-2007 05:59:19] <m11> failed to install event tables into MySQL
[21-Sep-2007 06:07:49] <m11> that are last two lines from install
[21-Sep-2007 07:55:05] <m11> i am installing zenoss from svn, but i just cant get it to install mysql event tables, any tips ?
[21-Sep-2007 10:46:18] <m11> hello
[21-Sep-2007 11:17:56] <xinity_mbp> hy al
[21-Sep-2007 11:17:59] <xinity_mbp> all
[21-Sep-2007 11:18:12] <xinity_mbp> anyone uses zenoss to send remote command through ssh ?
[21-Sep-2007 11:31:55] <Freak> whats your problem
[21-Sep-2007 11:32:45] <xinity_mbp> zenoss do the connexion, but it didn't do the command speficied
[21-Sep-2007 11:34:05] <Freak> like.. whats the error message?
[21-Sep-2007 11:40:37] <xinity_mbp> no error
[21-Sep-2007 11:40:42] <xinity_mbp> no output
[21-Sep-2007 11:46:12] <Freak> hum.. how are you sure the connection doesnt fail?
[21-Sep-2007 11:51:37] <xinity_mbp> because i test it command line
[21-Sep-2007 11:51:51] <xinity_mbp> and i can clearly see on the remote log files , the login from zenoss
[21-Sep-2007 12:02:43] <Freak> so when you log in yourself and start whatever command you want to run, what does it do
[21-Sep-2007 12:02:58] <xinity_mbp> i tried this
[21-Sep-2007 12:03:11] <xinity_mbp> log into the zenoss server
[21-Sep-2007 12:03:16] <xinity_mbp> su - zenoss
[21-Sep-2007 12:03:38] <xinity_mbp> used zendcommand for my device and the datasource i've created
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:01] <xinity_mbp> but it execute the command locally
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:17] <xinity_mbp> even if the device is a remote host
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:29] <Freak> I'm not actually a zenoss user yet so I don't know how zenoss sends commands
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:32] <Freak> =)
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:48] <Freak> but the user must be allowed to log in remotely
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:00] <Freak> then mus have sufficient permissions to run the command
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:02] <Freak> +t
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:04] <xinity_mbp> it can
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:11] <xinity_mbp> used a empty ssh key
[21-Sep-2007 12:09:47] <xinity_mbp> oh it seems in command line i don't need to specify the datasource
[21-Sep-2007 12:34:25] <m11> hi all
[21-Sep-2007 12:38:58] <fiXXXerMet> I can't get notifications working. I added a user and did a test email and it worked, but when I add an alert rule (Preferences -> Alerting Rules -> Add Alerting Rule -> 5 sec delay, enabled = true, address (user@domain.tld), action = email, severity >= debug)
[21-Sep-2007 12:39:10] <fiXXXerMet> An info event was thrown over night and I didn't receive anything
[21-Sep-2007 12:51:41] <fiXXXerMet> ok, fixed that.
[21-Sep-2007 12:51:49] <fiXXXerMet> How can I have an email sent to more than 1 user?
[21-Sep-2007 13:13:43] <xinity_mbp> use list fiXXXerMet
[21-Sep-2007 13:13:47] <xinity_mbp> that's what we do here
[21-Sep-2007 13:17:52] <fiXXXerMet> like an aliias?
[21-Sep-2007 13:29:18] <xinity_mbp> yup
[21-Sep-2007 13:30:47] <fiXXXerMet> good idea
[21-Sep-2007 13:38:53] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows what does this mean : WARNING:zen.zencommand:Reconnected to ZenHub ?
[21-Sep-2007 13:39:07] <xinity_mbp> i'm trying to use the check_dns_secondary nagios plugins
[21-Sep-2007 13:39:15] <xinity_mbp> but i fail creating the template
[21-Sep-2007 13:59:59] <xinity_mbp> oh my seems i should build a zenpack
[21-Sep-2007 14:00:19] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows how to test easily a made zenpack ?
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[21-Sep-2007 17:25:48] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[21-Sep-2007 18:54:08] <monrad> anyone tried to model a router with hotpluggable cards, and tried to get info about each cards cpu and temperature?
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[21-Sep-2007 20:15:21] <fiXXXerMet> I don't know why but zenoss won't add localhost (the same server that it's running on) anymore. It was working for a while, then I deleted it, went to re-add the server, and now it doesn't work.
[21-Sep-2007 20:15:26] <fiXXXerMet> I can snmpwalk the machine though
[21-Sep-2007 20:41:27] <JordanWilliams> o\
[21-Sep-2007 20:42:37] <JordanWilliams> I'm about to post a thread on the forums, however, i figured i'd ask here before that...
[21-Sep-2007 20:42:50] <JordanWilliams> I've installed Zenoss Core successfully on a ubuntu 6.06 setup
[21-Sep-2007 20:44:24] <JordanWilliams> however, adding devices is giving me some headaches. for some reason, if i try to manually add a device that is valid (using hostname or direct ip) once i hit Add Device, the zenStatus page loads.... sits there for a moment and then is totally blank.
[21-Sep-2007 20:45:01] <JordanWilliams> BUT. if i put "lksdjflksjdflksdjf" in the device name field... zenStatus reports back the obvious
[21-Sep-2007 20:45:19] <JordanWilliams> Time Level Module Message
[21-Sep-2007 20:45:19] <JordanWilliams> 2007-09-21 13:45:08 CRITICAL zen.DeviceLoader No IP found for name asdasdasd
[21-Sep-2007 20:46:27] WilliamUIUC_ is now known as WilliamUIUC
[21-Sep-2007 20:46:55] <hotgrits> Hi JordanWilliams ... this is a quirk with how zendisc works
[21-Sep-2007 20:47:28] <hotgrits> if set to discover via snmp, it will only use snmp to discover ... you will need to either enable snmp on the device
[21-Sep-2007 20:47:42] <hotgrits> ...or set the discovery protocol to 'none
[21-Sep-2007 20:47:56] <JordanWilliams> well see that's another quirk....
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:02] <JordanWilliams> take two hosts for example
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:11] <JordanWilliams> fw01-dtmc.dmccorp.net and web-svc01.dmccorp.net
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:27] <JordanWilliams> both have identical comm strings (identical snmpd.conf files)
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:43] <JordanWilliams> fw01-dtmc will give me a blank zenStatus screen
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:54] <JordanWilliams> web-svc01 works
[21-Sep-2007 20:49:14] <hotgrits> can you snmpwalk fw01-dtmc?
[21-Sep-2007 20:49:18] <JordanWilliams> yep
[21-Sep-2007 20:49:59] <hotgrits> from the zenoss box's command line, correct?
[21-Sep-2007 20:50:53] <JordanWilliams> yes
[21-Sep-2007 20:52:25] <hotgrits> hmm. that should work then. you don't have the fw01-dtmc device already modeled, do you? sometimes if you try to add a device thats already been modeled you'll see this behavior
[21-Sep-2007 20:52:51] <hotgrits> i've made that mistake before
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:18] <JordanWilliams> yeah, that was what i thought too... so i purged the system
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:24] <JordanWilliams> here's the other weird part
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:29] <JordanWilliams> output of event.log
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:53] <JordanWilliams> doesn't even show an attempt to get to fw01-dtmc
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:54] <JordanWilliams> BUT
[21-Sep-2007 20:54:05] <JordanWilliams> it does show the attempt at asdasdasdasd
[21-Sep-2007 20:54:11] * JordanWilliams scratches his head.
[21-Sep-2007 20:54:41] <hotgrits> interesting
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:06] <hotgrits> i wonder if that device is stuck in there somewhere. what method did you use to "purge?"
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:12] <JordanWilliams> and it's somewhat of a disappointment too only because fw01-dtmc is the most critical device on my network
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:13] <JordanWilliams> =)
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:16] <JordanWilliams> for obvious reasons
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:22] <hotgrits> heh
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:27] * hotgrits figured
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:39] <JordanWilliams> well, only through the ui
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:50] <JordanWilliams> let me see what sql says
[21-Sep-2007 20:56:07] <hotgrits> try discovering it from the commandline using zendisc. you might get more clues
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:26] <JordanWilliams> uhm
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:46] <hotgrits> ?
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:49] <JordanWilliams> does zCore store data in flatfile for information about devices/networks/etc?
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:57] <JordanWilliams> sql looks like an event repo
[21-Sep-2007 20:58:16] <hotgrits> yeah, sql is only for events ... most stuff is in the Zope DB
[21-Sep-2007 20:59:33] <JordanWilliams> is there a cmd line tool for doing raw queries?
[21-Sep-2007 21:02:33] <fiXXXerMet> urgh
[21-Sep-2007 21:02:36] <fiXXXerMet> I wish everything were in mysql
[21-Sep-2007 21:03:14] <hotgrits> JordanWilliams: i don't think so
[21-Sep-2007 21:03:41] <hotgrits> fiXXXerMet: yeah, that would be more convenient
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:14] <JordanWilliams> sorry... i'm a little bit of a greenfoot when it comes to the cmd line stuff
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:18] <fiXXXerMet> Do any of you know if mysql can be monitored with snmp?
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:26] <JordanWilliams> how would i use zendisc to find fw01?
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:40] <hotgrits> JordanWilliams: we do have a way of exporting devices in XML
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:06] <hotgrits> and i might have mispoke about zendisc
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:17] <hotgrits> however, this howto might show you what's currently in your database:
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:19] <hotgrits> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/get-a-list-of-device-names/
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:26] <hotgrits> check to see if fw01 is there
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Get a List of Device Names - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Sep-2007 21:11:03] <progma> wait, get a list of devices you've already added?
[21-Sep-2007 21:11:09] <hotgrits> yup
[21-Sep-2007 21:13:47] <JordanWilliams> wow
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:04] <JordanWilliams> i have to say, i'm substantially impressed with this software....
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:09] <JordanWilliams> absolutely incredible
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:17] <JordanWilliams> btw... thanks for the support
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:27] <JordanWilliams> it's greatly appreciates
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:30] <hotgrits> np ... its my job
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:31] <JordanWilliams> appreciated too
[21-Sep-2007 21:15:09] <hotgrits> i'll pass your comments on to our developers. thanks!
[21-Sep-2007 21:17:35] <JordanWilliams> so, personal opinion and suggestion..... right now, i'm testing the software. This means i'm going to fill it up with as many devices as i can, make all sorts of changes, etc etc.... would you advise bringing up a new server and building from scratch or is it alright to promote this server to production?
[21-Sep-2007 21:17:50] <JordanWilliams> i guess my question is really about the back end... and if it gets messy.
[21-Sep-2007 21:17:52] <JordanWilliams> =)
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:10] <hotgrits> well, its a good learning experience to bring up a new one, but not necessary
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:27] <hotgrits> when you move to our enterprise model you can keep all your data
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:38] <hotgrits> its a pretty easy upgrade
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:59] <hotgrits> (i hope you're not referring to our 2.1 beta, however!)
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:06] <JordanWilliams> nono =)
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:17] <hotgrits> ok, whew!
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:21] <hotgrits> then you're set
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:22] <JordanWilliams> lol
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:10] <JordanWilliams> and i'm very excited about moving it into our r&d team and letting them get into plugins and extending it's functionality.
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:28] <JordanWilliams> see i run a digital signage network of over 12,500 devices
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:35] <hotgrits> yes, that will be a piece of cake
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:39] <hotgrits> ok, cool
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:47] <hotgrits> we can do that
[21-Sep-2007 21:21:06] <JordanWilliams> that number grows by about 1,500-3,000 systems a month too
[21-Sep-2007 21:21:21] <hotgrits> you must have your hands full!
[21-Sep-2007 21:21:57] <JordanWilliams> but my comment is really the fact that it has been a great challenge to grab data over time metrics with other software packages, strictly from a discovery/management aspect
[21-Sep-2007 21:22:28] <JordanWilliams> so i love the fact our devs can work some backend magic and have zCore automate that process
[21-Sep-2007 21:22:36] <JordanWilliams> yes. very, VERY full.
[21-Sep-2007 21:23:26] <hotgrits> heh
[21-Sep-2007 21:23:45] <hotgrits> yeah, zenoss is a hacker's dream ... you can extend it almost any way you can dream up
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:00] <hotgrits> that's what most impressed me about it ... and still does
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:15] <hotgrits> want to monitor something? zenoss can do it
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:20] <JordanWilliams> can you summarize for me the use of the Status Monitor and Performance Monitor host entry fields when i add devices...
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:25] <JordanWilliams> i haven't quite figured those out
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:36] <JordanWilliams> i agree
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:39] <JordanWilliams> it's great....
[21-Sep-2007 21:25:06] <hotgrits> hmm. not sure myself. i'll have to check those out and get back to you
[21-Sep-2007 21:25:24] <JordanWilliams> i tell my coworkers it's a beautiful mix of cacti and nagios
[21-Sep-2007 21:25:56] <JordanWilliams> all it needs is a little aanval and it's pretty much class leading software
[21-Sep-2007 21:26:55] <hotgrits> wow. kind words there. thanks, again!
[21-Sep-2007 21:27:43] <kgoedtel> i tried to create my own zenpack, but my datapoint is not showing up in the data source
[21-Sep-2007 21:28:18] <kgoedtel> i modified dnsmonitor accordingly and changed time to offest, which is the val in check_ntp... what am i missing :[
[21-Sep-2007 21:28:24] <kgoedtel> offset*
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[21-Sep-2007 21:29:02] <JordanWilliams> if i had one piece of constructive critacism, it would be that the grouping functionality is a little hard to understand
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:08] <JordanWilliams> no the grouping itself
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:14] <JordanWilliams> but all the different types of grouping
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:28] <hotgrits> kgoedtel: unfortunately zenpacks aren't my strong suit. sorry! I'll have to get back to you.
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:47] <JordanWilliams> classes vs locations vs devices vs etc etc
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:57] <hotgrits> JordanWilliams: criticism is always welcome. how would you like to see it?
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:08] <JordanWilliams> not sure... i'd have to think about it really
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:20] <JordanWilliams> zCore is a very steep learning curve
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:31] <hotgrits> perhaps the ability to define groups and then the hierarchy below them?
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:39] <JordanWilliams> maybe a dumbed down interface for beginners?
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:42] <hotgrits> true
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:56] <hotgrits> well, the 2.1 interface is an improvement, i think
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:03] <hotgrits> though I haven't spent much time with it yet
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:20] <JordanWilliams> yeah... i'm trying to learn this... then jump into 2.1 and see what is going on
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:31] <JordanWilliams> hmmm
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:36] <JordanWilliams> gotta go for a meeting
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:48] <JordanWilliams> btw.... zendisc found fw01-dtmc
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:52] <JordanWilliams> o_O
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:56] <JordanWilliams> lol
[21-Sep-2007 21:32:54] <hotgrits> heh
[21-Sep-2007 21:32:57] <hotgrits> ok
[21-Sep-2007 21:33:11] <hotgrits> y'all have a good weekend!
[21-Sep-2007 21:57:53] <progma> JordanWilliams: aanval?
[21-Sep-2007 23:04:43] <JordanWilliams> progma: it's a SNORT frontend
[21-Sep-2007 23:12:58] <progma> ohhh
[21-Sep-2007 23:13:06] <progma> like acidbase ?
[21-Sep-2007 23:13:51] <progma> sorry i've used sourcefire defense center and snort by cmd line but haven't tried the oss snort guis yet
[21-Sep-2007 23:15:16] <progma> i like cisco mars because it can do what you are talking about, but it is ridiculous cost and if zenoss can incorporate alerting based on snort rules, wow
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[22-Sep-2007 00:53:42] <JordanWilliams> quick question... the VMappliance with Zenoss preinstalled knows all about HW and SW IDs... and the stock installation of zenoss i compiled does not.
[22-Sep-2007 00:53:58] <JordanWilliams> is there a download or something that contains all that information? or is that more privileged for paying customers?
[22-Sep-2007 00:56:41] <chowmeined> it didnt come with the snmp mibs?
[22-Sep-2007 00:58:08] <JordanWilliams> i'm talking about when you add a device... it has all the manufacturers and models already in the drop down menus
[22-Sep-2007 00:58:21] <JordanWilliams> or is my installation missing that stuff?
[22-Sep-2007 01:00:28] <chowmeined> oh
[22-Sep-2007 01:00:44] <chowmeined> im not sure
[22-Sep-2007 01:54:52] <brandon> Hello everyone
[22-Sep-2007 01:56:14] <brandon> does anyone know if it is possible to get zenperfsnmp to poll hardware elements?
[22-Sep-2007 01:58:50] <chowmeined> example?
[22-Sep-2007 01:59:28] <chowmeined> like raid statistics? fan speed? power usage?
[22-Sep-2007 02:10:11] <brandon> ya
[22-Sep-2007 02:10:58] <chowmeined> you can create a graph using the templates and give it an OID to poll
[22-Sep-2007 02:11:07] <brandon> I have a collecter plugin that extents the DeviceHW class
[22-Sep-2007 02:11:39] <brandon> When I model my server I see the new elements I added in the 'Hardware' tab
[22-Sep-2007 02:12:18] <brandon> and I added a performance template to these elements with the appropriate oids and what not
[22-Sep-2007 02:13:11] <brandon> but I suspect that the HW class does not have the proper methods to work with zensnmpperf
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[22-Sep-2007 05:50:56] <brandon> Anyone ever had problems with zenoss/zope not compiling .pyc's?
[22-Sep-2007 06:01:42] <chowmeined> i thought it came with pyo?
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[22-Sep-2007 09:45:55] <xinity_mbp> hy guys
[22-Sep-2007 09:45:59] <xinity_mbp> sorry to bother
[22-Sep-2007 09:46:35] <xinity_mbp> but i'm trying to use some nagios plugins , like check_dns_secondary.pl , but i don't know how to do it any clues ?
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[22-Sep-2007 21:07:00] <JordanWilliam1> how is everyone today?
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[23-Sep-2007 07:23:51] <impactX> anyone around?
[23-Sep-2007 18:06:46] <xinity_mbp> hy al
[23-Sep-2007 18:07:29] <xinity_mbp> i've read that zenoss build it's own layer 3 dependencies rules based on route tables , but does zenoss handle alert escalation ?
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[24-Sep-2007 08:00:41] <Folke> Hi there, what dist do you guys think is the first choice to run zenoss on..
[24-Sep-2007 08:01:32] <Folke> I am an old debian user.. But it seems that zenoss likes it best on a rpm based dist.. Like CentOS or sumfink like thata?
[24-Sep-2007 11:32:57] <Freak> the build script actually does a 'uname' to determine the OS, finds OpenBSD, decides it's the same as SunOS ("++ '[' OpenBSD = SunOS ']'") and therefore runs "++ ps -Ao pid,command" which then results in "unknown option -- A"
[24-Sep-2007 11:33:10] <Freak> sweet.
[24-Sep-2007 11:33:23] <Freak> anywho.. I consider this a bit of a bug then
[24-Sep-2007 11:35:15] <Freak> looks like that's in install-functions.sh
[24-Sep-2007 11:35:54] <Freak> I think I got the bash debug output wrong
[24-Sep-2007 11:50:16] <Freak> so it just tests wether OpenBSD=SunOS but then it does ps -Ao anyways, which doesnt exist on obsd.
[24-Sep-2007 11:50:22] <Freak> I mean -A
[24-Sep-2007 12:07:19] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[24-Sep-2007 12:07:40] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows why after installing a homemade zenpack , i can't add any datasource ?
[24-Sep-2007 12:38:59] <xinity_mbp> nobody knows ?
[24-Sep-2007 12:39:00] <xinity_mbp>
[24-Sep-2007 13:05:05] <bkingx> Greetings!! Quick question: can Zenoss run under windows via cygwin or some other method?
[24-Sep-2007 13:12:37] <xinity_mbp> damned !
[24-Sep-2007 13:12:50] <xinity_mbp> can't get my zenpack available
[24-Sep-2007 13:13:02] <xinity_mbp> zenoss locks on loading screen
[24-Sep-2007 13:42:15] <bkingx> NM...found this:
[24-Sep-2007 13:42:16] <bkingx> Does Zenoss run on Windows ?
[24-Sep-2007 13:42:16] <bkingx> Zenoss is able to be installed and run in a Windows environment. This is accomplished using the VMplayer from vmware.com, and the Zenoss Virtual Appliance. For more information about installing Zenoss using the VMplayer, see the Zenoss Quick Start Guide.
[24-Sep-2007 13:44:29] <bzed> bkingx: I'd rather shoot myself then to try to run zope in windows
[24-Sep-2007 13:45:08] <bkingx> LOL...agreed. Especially when there is a VM already built.
[24-Sep-2007 13:45:36] <bkingx> What do you think is the performance impact of running it 24x7 in a VM environ?
[24-Sep-2007 13:46:25] <Freak> I fail on installing zenoss on openbsd because of rrdtool
[24-Sep-2007 14:27:01] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows how to fix zenoss zenpacks ? someone here have a fake one and it seems this has broken zenpack handling
[24-Sep-2007 14:27:38] <fiXXXerMet> Do any of you monitor MySQL health with zenoss / snmp?
[24-Sep-2007 14:27:48] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a plugin or a pack or a list of MIBs or somethign?
[24-Sep-2007 14:46:31] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[24-Sep-2007 14:46:57] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows how to clean zenoss database from a corrupted zenpack ?
[24-Sep-2007 14:47:18] <xinity_mbp> if i can't clean the zenoss DB i won't be able to add other zenpacks
[24-Sep-2007 14:59:08] <fiXXXerMet> For remote sites, should I add machines by IP or Hostname? I'd like to use hostname for ease-of-reference, but it seems like that (dns) could be a bottleneck
[24-Sep-2007 15:15:46] <hotgrits> fiXXXerMet: either one will work. You can add by IP and then change the name of the device. Zenoss will continue to use the IP to poll it
[24-Sep-2007 15:16:33] <hotgrits> zinity_mbp: i'm afraid there's no easy to do this. for this reason I highly recommend you back up $ZENHOME before installing any zenpacks.
[24-Sep-2007 15:16:55] <kgoedtel> i still can't get my zenpack to work either
[24-Sep-2007 15:16:56] <kgoedtel> :[
[24-Sep-2007 15:17:17] <kgoedtel> the datapoint never shows up in the datasource
[24-Sep-2007 15:17:36] <kgoedtel> and no errors getting logged
[24-Sep-2007 15:18:06] <fiXXXerMet> hotgrits: thanks.
[24-Sep-2007 15:46:51] <JordanWilliams> good morning people
[24-Sep-2007 15:47:01] <JordanWilliams> i trust people had a good weekend
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[24-Sep-2007 16:45:27] <fiXXXerMet> Why is it that I can only snmpwalk localhost, and not hostname, hostname.localdomain, or ip.ad.dr.ess?
[24-Sep-2007 16:45:54] <fiXXXerMet> My /etc/hosts file contains 127.0.0.1 localhost and 192.168.0.13 tvilnx01.tvicorp.com tvilnx01
[24-Sep-2007 16:46:08] <fiXXXerMet> If I add 127.0.0.1 tvilnx01.tvicorp.com tvilnx01 then it works
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:36] <xinity_mbp> yes !!!
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:41] <xinity_mbp> i've done my first zenpack
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:47] <xinity_mbp> and you know what ?
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:50] <xinity_mbp> it works !!!
[24-Sep-2007 16:55:08] <fiXXXerMet> !!
[24-Sep-2007 16:57:57] <kgoedtel> heh me too, after i clicked the damn save button
[24-Sep-2007 16:58:29] <kgoedtel> how was i supposed to know that the datapoint doesnt show up until you click save? :[
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:12] <xinity_mbp> lol kgoedtel
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:20] <xinity_mbp> what kind of zenpack have you made ?
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:26] <kgoedtel> one for ntp
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:35] <kgoedtel> monitoring
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:52] <xinity_mbp> kgoedtel: will you share it or not ? (just to know if i should make my own )
[24-Sep-2007 17:04:16] <kgoedtel> well i didnt really do much for it, i just made minor changes to the dnsmonitor zenpack
[24-Sep-2007 17:04:25] <xinity_mbp> me too
[24-Sep-2007 17:05:06] <xinity_mbp> i'll start making one for my neo2000 backup system
[24-Sep-2007 17:05:44] <kgoedtel> i can give it to you if you wish
[24-Sep-2007 17:05:51] <xinity_mbp> sure i would;)
[24-Sep-2007 17:07:56] <xinity_mbp> by the way , the helloworld zenpack is really usefull
[24-Sep-2007 17:08:26] <kgoedtel> i will probably check that out next, i just wanted to get my feet wet
[24-Sep-2007 17:08:58] <kgoedtel> i also want to learn how to do custom mibs/oids... then i will be satisfied with zenoss
[24-Sep-2007 17:10:32] <xinity_mbp> kgoedtel: wow this is harder than learning python
[24-Sep-2007 17:10:44] <xinity_mbp> it needs a high level in hardware comprehension
[24-Sep-2007 17:14:49] <xinity_mbp> got to go home , take to ya later on guys
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[24-Sep-2007 19:10:59] <MoreDakka_> Can Zenoss be setup to error on 60% of packet loss?
[24-Sep-2007 19:25:50] <kgoedtel> yep
[24-Sep-2007 19:26:02] <kgoedtel> make a zenpack using check_ping
[24-Sep-2007 19:26:15] <kgoedtel> or a command
[24-Sep-2007 19:27:27] <slimmpete123> Hello all I am intrested in finding out how I can change the zenoss snmp poll rate?
[24-Sep-2007 19:28:23] <slimmpete123> I have not been able to find where this would be changed?
[24-Sep-2007 19:29:51] <terander> Hi all :-) I've successfully installed 2.0.6 on Ubunty Feisty using the installation guide, but I can't get the discovery function to work....
[24-Sep-2007 19:30:03] <terander> anyone who can shed some light on how I can solve this?
[24-Sep-2007 19:33:00] <hotgrits> terander: how is it failing?
[24-Sep-2007 19:40:09] <hotgrits> slimmpete123: you can change the interval under the Monitor page. Click on the performance monitor and change the Process Cycle Interval (secs).
[24-Sep-2007 19:40:52] <hotgrits> be advised that the rrd's that zenoss uses are set to a 5 min interval, so you must first delete your existing performance history and start from scratch if you want to change this inteval. got it?
[24-Sep-2007 19:43:27] <slimmpete123> Yes I am looking into it now
[24-Sep-2007 19:55:50] <terander> hotgrits: Dunno - I'm new to zenoss (my first install), but I can't find anything in the logs, as far as I can see, that indicates the problem...
[24-Sep-2007 20:00:17] <terander> I've added a router which zenoss successfully enumerates, I then go to the network view, selects a network and chooses Discover from the drop-down menu - nothing happens
[24-Sep-2007 20:14:07] <terander> OK, I used this from the docs: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net=x.x.x.x
[24-Sep-2007 20:14:52] <terander> that's the command I overlooked - can't wait to see zenoss with data to analyze
[24-Sep-2007 20:47:39] <MoreDakka_> So I'm trying to install 2.1 beta and it needs mysql-server-standard 5.0.22 and mysql-client-standard 5.0.22. I can get mysql-server&client-community 5.0.22 but can't find the standard....zenoss doesn't like the community, needs to be standard, anyone know where I can get that for CentOS4?
[24-Sep-2007 21:12:45] <hotgrits> MoreDakka: i believe the standard mysql packages will work. Does it insist on 'standard?'
[24-Sep-2007 21:22:02] <MoreDakka_> It insists on Standard.
[24-Sep-2007 21:22:18] <MoreDakka_> I've got community installed right now and it still says dependency failed.
[24-Sep-2007 21:22:29] <MoreDakka_> for client/server-standard.
[24-Sep-2007 21:27:34] <MoreDakka_> any ideas?
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[24-Sep-2007 21:59:43] <b52lap> ppl anyone have successed to do realtime monitoring 5/10s ? (yeah yeah the question is a little bit stupid ..... )
[24-Sep-2007 22:02:29] <monrad> 5/10s?
[24-Sep-2007 22:02:56] <MoreDakka_> wow...that's a big server with a big connection
[24-Sep-2007 22:03:35] <b52lap> i mean rrd graphs are upload every 5 minute by default , it cas be modified to 60s , could we do less than that ?
[24-Sep-2007 22:04:25] <MoreDakka_> So I'm trying to install 2.1 beta and it needs mysql-server-standard 5.0.22 and mysql-client-standard 5.0.22. I can get mysql-server&client-community 5.0.22 but can't find the standard....zenoss doesn't like the community, needs to be standard, anyone know where I can get that for CentOS4?
[24-Sep-2007 22:05:02] <kgoedtel> you cant get it through pkg management?
[24-Sep-2007 22:05:19] <MoreDakka_> like yum?
[24-Sep-2007 22:05:29] <MoreDakka_> yum wants to install 4.1.x mysql-server
[24-Sep-2007 22:06:00] <kgoedtel> ahh right centos4
[24-Sep-2007 22:06:41] <b52lap> monrad, :d
[24-Sep-2007 22:07:18] <kgoedtel> x86 or x86_64?
[24-Sep-2007 22:08:25] <monrad> ah i dont want that it takes 15-20 secs to do all 920 devices right now
[24-Sep-2007 22:08:56] <kgoedtel> you can change the polling interval, but ... uhm if you have a lot of devices that is a really bad idea
[24-Sep-2007 22:09:41] <kgoedtel> MoreDakka_: http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-5.0/MySQL-server-5.0.45-0.glibc23.i386.rpm/from/pick#mirrors
[24-Sep-2007 22:09:51] <b52lap> monrad, so for all the 920 devices graphs are generated under 20s ? hmm nice , what the spec of the machine (the monster ) ?
[24-Sep-2007 22:09:55] <adytum-bot> Title: MySQL AB :: Select a Mirror (at dev.mysql.com)
[24-Sep-2007 22:10:19] <monrad> b52lap: enough ram is the tricky bit
[24-Sep-2007 22:11:01] <monrad> 4 gb ram right now, dual 3.2 ghz xeons with rrd files on a hp eva san
[24-Sep-2007 22:11:31] <monrad> 2 gb ram gave os a polling time of 250-450 secs
[24-Sep-2007 22:11:47] <monrad> i am really looking forward to the next version of rrdtools
[24-Sep-2007 22:12:41] <b52lap> nice!!! , so you have a beautifulll dashroad ! ....
[24-Sep-2007 22:18:56] <MoreDakka_> Has anyone ever said that installing software on linux is like ripping out your hair?
[24-Sep-2007 22:19:24] <monrad> MoreDakka_: every tried xp
[24-Sep-2007 22:19:42] <MoreDakka_> Usually the installer in XP has all the software required to get it going.
[24-Sep-2007 22:21:21] <monrad> well i am kinda used to linux
[24-Sep-2007 22:21:35] <monrad> i have not used windows for 6-7 years now
[24-Sep-2007 22:24:43] <MoreDakka_> Sorry if I'm coming across as a little pissy but zenoss 2.1 requires mysql-server-standard, mysql-server-standard requires libmysqlclient.so.15, tried to find that and I could only find it for FC6 or FC7 not for FC4 (CentOS4)....this happens almost anytime that yum can't find something and I have to try to do it manually.
[24-Sep-2007 22:24:45] <MoreDakka_> bah.
[24-Sep-2007 23:02:20] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[24-Sep-2007 23:05:11] <kgoedtel> MoreDakka_: you never answered me question
[24-Sep-2007 23:05:27] <kgoedtel> whether your server was x86 or x86_64
[24-Sep-2007 23:32:21] <monrad> i get some weird errors from zenperfsnmp on x86_64
[24-Sep-2007 23:50:55] <monrad> bzed: got packages soon
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[25-Sep-2007 00:02:27] <bzed> monrad: working on it
[25-Sep-2007 00:02:43] <bzed> I hope to get the next beta into experimental
[25-Sep-2007 00:02:46] <bzed> outlook is good so far
[25-Sep-2007 00:03:01] <bzed> at least opcyright-wise
[25-Sep-2007 00:03:05] <monrad> bzed: i was not expecting any reponse tonight
[25-Sep-2007 00:06:02] <monrad> but i am looking forward to testing it
[25-Sep-2007 00:08:32] <monrad> bzed: you were from germany right?
[25-Sep-2007 00:23:26] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: if you've got MySQL 5.0.22 or above installed, you can do a -nodeps on the rpm -i install. I don't think you'll run into any issues if you use the community MySQL 5.0.22 server.
[25-Sep-2007 00:33:20] <bzed> monrad: yeah, I am
[25-Sep-2007 00:33:30] <bzed> monrad: that's why I'm on my way to bed now
[25-Sep-2007 00:33:31] <bzed> n8n8
[25-Sep-2007 00:34:04] <monrad> night
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[25-Sep-2007 09:03:46] <Freak> is it correct that after a fresh installation (2.0.6-0 on debian unstable) zope isnt started?
[25-Sep-2007 09:27:58] <Robbadub> Can you start it?
[25-Sep-2007 10:43:40] <Marc2> hello
[25-Sep-2007 10:44:09] <Marc2> i need help with a clean install of zenoss if anyone is around
[25-Sep-2007 10:44:53] <Marc2> the html files dont look to be getting populated into /var/www/html directory
[25-Sep-2007 11:52:54] <Freak> Marc2: zenoss uses zope as webserver
[25-Sep-2007 11:53:40] <Freak> it has _its own webserver_, it doesnt use apache (hence doesnt write to /var/www/whatsoever
[25-Sep-2007 11:53:44] <Freak> )
[25-Sep-2007 12:12:52] <Marc2> ok thanks
[25-Sep-2007 12:13:31] <Marc2> ive posted the output to the zenoss user forums
[25-Sep-2007 12:13:37] <Marc2> mwilliams
[25-Sep-2007 12:17:14] <Marc2> well that was simple, all works now. i had apache listen on 8080 as well :-)
[25-Sep-2007 13:34:47] <hotgrits> good morning, all
[25-Sep-2007 14:45:38] <Bulwinkle> holy hell, is that you chet? (cluther)
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:06] <cluther> AFAIK!
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:16] <cluther> How're things here in IRC land?
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:17] <Bulwinkle> hahah, welcome back!
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:23] <Bulwinkle> same ol' same ol'
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:45] <Bulwinkle> trying to help out the noobs
[25-Sep-2007 14:47:27] <Bulwinkle> cluther: getting ready to upgrade my development box to 2.0.90
[25-Sep-2007 14:47:44] <cluther> Cool.. there's some good stuff in there.
[25-Sep-2007 14:48:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther: some of the stuff my team has been looking forward to (especially the mapping)
[25-Sep-2007 14:48:43] <Bulwinkle> cluther: the pretty pictures may even get my boss to look at getting some kind of supported version....
[25-Sep-2007 14:49:00] <cluther> It's funny how that works.
[25-Sep-2007 14:50:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: we spent so much money on HP Openworks to just end up scrapping it later. I think he is a little gunshy
[25-Sep-2007 14:50:40] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You can tell him that he's not alone.
[25-Sep-2007 14:50:53] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I've heard the same story so many times regarding HPOV.
[25-Sep-2007 14:51:26] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I've got a couple of open tickets (zenoss user of course)... can you have a look at one in particular for me? (1973) when you get a chance and see what you think?
[25-Sep-2007 14:51:53] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I came up with a fix that works for me but I just want to make sure my logic is right
[25-Sep-2007 14:56:37] <cluther> It makes sense.. the first column from the ifAlias table should be used as the id for Catalyst interfaces?
[25-Sep-2007 14:59:51] <jfnormand> Hello
[25-Sep-2007 15:00:16] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah... it works for me. the only problem is I don't get my description now.
[25-Sep-2007 15:02:25] <Bulwinkle> cluther: fingers crossed - executing the upgrade now
[25-Sep-2007 15:03:14] <jfnormand> I'm currently evaluating Zenoss, and I search how to auto-discover CPU Usage and Memory usage
[25-Sep-2007 15:06:54] <hotgrits> jfnormand: zenoss polls performance data for CPU and memory automatically
[25-Sep-2007 15:07:20] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It turns out that there's already a data collector plugin that does what you want with the ifAlias. It's the InterfaceAliasMap.
[25-Sep-2007 15:07:44] <MoreDakka_> cluther, nice to see you ;-) Hope everything is going well (a little sucking up before the actual question ;-) )
[25-Sep-2007 15:08:27] <MoreDakka_> So I'm trying to install 2.1 beta and it needs mysql-server-standard 5.0.22 and mysql-client-standard 5.0.22. I can get mysql-server&client-community 5.0.22 but can't find the standard....zenoss doesn't like the community, needs to be standard, how can I get around that or find standard for centos4?
[25-Sep-2007 15:11:14] <Marc2> those are part of the zenoss-deps-el4.i386.tar.bz2 for centos 4 ?
[25-Sep-2007 15:13:05] <cluther> Marc2: Right.. MoreDakka, are you using RHEL/CentOS 4 or 5?
[25-Sep-2007 15:14:00] <MoreDakka_> CentOS4. I'm looking for that download right now, didn't see it earlier.
[25-Sep-2007 15:14:49] <jfnormand> hotgrits well i does not works for me, so normaly the CPU usage appears in the device OS tabs ?
[25-Sep-2007 15:14:52] <Marc2> its under downloads on the zenoss page
[25-Sep-2007 15:15:09] <Marc2> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-deps-el4.i386.tar.bz2
[25-Sep-2007 15:15:38] <MoreDakka_> yep, just clicked on it as you posted that ;-) Thanks, I'll give this a try :-D
[25-Sep-2007 15:21:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: how does zenoss determine which plugin to use when it gets ahold of a device? seems like it should automatically select that to me...
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:11] <cluther> It is chosen from the device class' zCollectorPlugins property. So you'd use the InterfaceAliasMap instead of the InterfaceMap on your Catalyst device class.
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:20] <hotgrits> jfnormand: it appears under the Perf tab
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:45] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: you can use the Centos MySQL rpm
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:46] <Bulwinkle> cluther: aaaaah... not all of my Cisco devices, just the catalysts?
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:00] <cluther> yeah.. Cisco IOS devices should use the normal InterfaceMap.
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:11] <Bulwinkle> cluther: let me try that....
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:21] <slimmpete123> hello
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:25] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: if you've already installed MySQL 5.0.22, you can do "rpm -i -nodeps zenoss*.rpm"
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:19] <MoreDakka_> What does nodeps do?
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:29] <slimmpete123> rpm -ihv --nodeps zenoss*.rpm
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:32] <slimmpete123> try that
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:35] <kgoedte1> installs without server component
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:38] <hotgrits> ya
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:41] * hotgrits meant that
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:55] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: nodeps tells rpm to ignore a package's dependencies
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:57] <slimmpete123> You are ignoring dependences
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:32] <MoreDakka_> I just removed the mysql community ones and installed the mysql-standards from the zenoss website.....yay all working now.
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:38] <progma> i've had to do that for my zenoss install since i'm in rhel4 with an existing mysql server install
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:39] <MoreDakka_> you guys are my heroes!!
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:45] <slimmpete123> You have mysql installed from a precompiled tar.gz
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:20] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: glad I could help
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:32] <slimmpete123> mysql.5.+ needs not to be comopiled
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:36] <slimmpete123> compiled*
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:55] <slimmpete123> No Problem
[25-Sep-2007 15:27:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when are you guys gonna fix the permissioning on zensocket
[25-Sep-2007 15:27:40] <slimmpete123> Okay can I have a zenoss wizard help me out? How do i clear all events?
[25-Sep-2007 15:28:07] <kgoedte1> drop your events db and restore the schema?
[25-Sep-2007 15:30:43] <cluther> slimmpete123: From the MySQL prompt..
[25-Sep-2007 15:30:46] <cluther> slimmpete123: delete from status;
[25-Sep-2007 15:30:51] <cluther> slimmpete123: delete from history;
[25-Sep-2007 15:34:04] <xeor> Just installed zenoss on debian. But when I try to connect to it on :8100/zport/dmd I got nothing web related. If I telnet to it I got stuff like "♦Z303", whats wrong?
[25-Sep-2007 15:34:19] <xeor> Port 8080 was already in use, but I dont think that may be the problem
[25-Sep-2007 15:34:41] <cluther> xeor: The Zope database runs on port 8100.. you definitely can't use that one for the web interface.
[25-Sep-2007 15:35:40] <xeor> ahhh... I did an netstat -plunta | grep python, and saw port 8100 and squid on 8080, so I tought it was smart enoug to choose another port when that one was taken
[25-Sep-2007 15:35:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: looks like the upgrade from 2.0.5 to 2.0.90 didn't get the database right. I just dropped my events database, is there a script that will create everything I need?
[25-Sep-2007 15:36:13] <xeor> But that makes perfect sense.. But why dont it use the mysql database It asked about when I runned setup?
[25-Sep-2007 15:37:24] <xeor> cluther: Thanks! But can I just change the port in zope.conf to get it working?
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:15] <cluther> xeor: It uses the Zope database and MySQL for different purposes. If you must change the Zope port, use the "port-base" value in the zope.conf to do so.
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:27] <xeor> thanks
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:34] <cluther> Bulwinkle: On the database schema.. sort of..
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:58] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Go into your $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/db directory.
[25-Sep-2007 15:39:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Then..
[25-Sep-2007 15:39:09] <cluther> Bulwinkle: mysql -u root -p < zenevents.sql
[25-Sep-2007 15:39:15] <cluther> mysql -u root -p < zenprocs.sql
[25-Sep-2007 15:40:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: no stored procedures?
[25-Sep-2007 15:40:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Those are in the zenprocs.sql
[25-Sep-2007 15:46:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: down to just one process not starting ... zenhhub
[25-Sep-2007 15:48:15] <Bulwinkle> cool... got it
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:02] <Marc2> zenmib is barfing
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:12] <Marc2> zenmib run CISCO-BGP4-MIB.my
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:33] <cluther> Marc2: Don't specify any command line options to zenmib after run.
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:51] <cluther> Marc2: Just stick the MIB file into $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site and it will find it for you.. including any dependencies if possible.
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:04] <Marc2> ok
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:33] <Marc2> still barfing
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:41] <Marc2> complains that
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:54] <Marc2> line 13: /bin/zenfunctions
[25-Sep-2007 15:53:01] <Marc2> no such file
[25-Sep-2007 15:54:06] <Marc2> think its permissions, i cant run zenfunctions from the command line
[25-Sep-2007 15:55:07] <Marc2> fixed it, i was root not zenoss user
[25-Sep-2007 16:00:58] <progma> where's a good place to start looking for setting up alerting
[25-Sep-2007 16:01:32] <kgoedte1> can anyone recommend some good documents for doing custom OIDs since I am reading that using exec or extend produces strings which zenoss can't use for trending
[25-Sep-2007 16:03:00] <kgoedte1> progma: preferences -> alerting rules
[25-Sep-2007 16:14:44] <MoreDakka_> nice network map in 2.1 beta ;-)
[25-Sep-2007 16:15:47] <progma> ^
[25-Sep-2007 16:15:49] <progma> i was just looking at that and the goolge maps mashup
[25-Sep-2007 16:16:50] <MoreDakka_> that's interesting as well. Is there a way to put an address per device rather then creating locations and having one device in one location? I'm thinking not, cause if you want to put something else at that location later...
[25-Sep-2007 16:18:30] <progma> not sure, i'm still a zenoss noob
[25-Sep-2007 16:18:53] <MoreDakka_> ;-) I'm quite new as well...I jumped on at v1.1.1
[25-Sep-2007 16:21:37] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Everyone is a Zenoss newb.
[25-Sep-2007 16:22:06] <cluther> And you do need to create a location for every location you want mapped on the google map
[25-Sep-2007 16:22:25] <MoreDakka_> alright, that's fine...makes more sense that way.
[25-Sep-2007 16:23:00] <MoreDakka_> while I have you here, I just added 3 devices, 2 servers (10.10.10.20, 10.10.10.123) and their gateway (10.10.10.1) but in the network map the gateway isn't showing at all.
[25-Sep-2007 16:23:53] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Make sure that the interfaces of all three were modeled properly on the OS tab.
[25-Sep-2007 16:24:00] <MoreDakka_> Also, in the network map, is it possible to have a drop down box for "Selected Device or Network" to select the networks instead of manually typing it in?
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:06] <MoreDakka_> Ah, yes, the gw doesn't seem to be populating :-/
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:11] <cluther> MoreDakka_: It would be possible, but a lot of Zenoss installations have a LOT of devices so we used the partial match.
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:15] <slimmpete123> Does anyone have any good information on configuring net-snmpd to work as an agent and only send traps?
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:17] <cluther> MoreDakka_: You don't have to type the whole name.
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:43] <cluther> slimmpete123: Stick a line in your snmpd.conf that reads "trapsink <IP of management station>"
[25-Sep-2007 16:26:12] <slimmpete123> Okay is that all?
[25-Sep-2007 16:26:14] <MoreDakka_> What about a search for device or a drop down for networks?
[25-Sep-2007 16:26:34] <MoreDakka_> and/or
[25-Sep-2007 16:27:27] <slimmpete123> I did that and created situation where my partition was 100% full and never received a trap
[25-Sep-2007 16:27:34] <slimmpete123>
[25-Sep-2007 16:28:21] <cluther> slimmpete123: I suppose I should have mentioned that Net-SNMP doesn't send useful traps.
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:22] <cluther> slimmpete123: As far as I know the only traps that a normal Net-SNMP agent will send are when the agent restarts and when interfaces go up and down.
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:23] <MoreDakka_> cluther, I think I have an error here. http://pastebin.ca/710526
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:31] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 710526 (at pastebin.ca)
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:51] <MoreDakka_> Got that when I tried to force a remodel
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:58] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Indeed.. what kind of device is this?
[25-Sep-2007 16:30:08] <MoreDakka_> cisco 871 router
[25-Sep-2007 16:30:45] <MoreDakka_> it's under the /Network/Router/Cisco
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:03] <MoreDakka_> populates no problem in v1.1.1
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:12] <MoreDakka_> ;-) oldschool
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:34] <cluther> Surprising.. that section of the InterfaceMap hasn't changed.
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:49] <cluther> I recall someone posting this same issue to the users forum somewhat recently.
[25-Sep-2007 16:32:09] <MoreDakka_> Should I create a bug report? (never done that before)./
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:37] <slimmpete123> Is there a better agent for traps?
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:38] <cluther> Could you pastebin an snmpwalk of .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.21.1 on this device?
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:51] <MoreDakka_> sure, hold on.
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:56] <cluther> slimmpete123: Some of the big vendor extensions like Dell's OpenManage and HP's Insight Management Agent do better.
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:56] <slimmpete123> Okay
[25-Sep-2007 16:34:27] <slimmpete123> possibly opensource? or free
[25-Sep-2007 16:34:28] <slimmpete123> LOL
[25-Sep-2007 16:34:45] <cluther> slimmpete123: Afraid not.
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:18] <progma> dell's omsa is free i thought
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:36] <MoreDakka_> cluther, there is too much sensitive information in that walk for me to post it.
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:42] <cluther> progma: You can definitely download it for free. I think the gotcha is that it only reports on Dell hardware.
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:44] <slimmpete123> Okay I am looking into it
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:55] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Would you mind emailing it to me? cluther@zenoss.com
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:04] <slimmpete123> Ahhhh well we have dell servers
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:16] <cluther> slimmpete123: Bingo!
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:16] <progma> it modifies snmpd heaviliy upon install and gives you lots of ipmi info avail via snmp
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:27] <MoreDakka_> cluther: I'll have to run this past my boss to make sure it's all right
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:55] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Understandal.e
[25-Sep-2007 16:37:02] <progma> cluther: yes, dell afaik
[25-Sep-2007 16:37:05] <slimmpete123> so thats good but even when setting up net-snmpd with the --with-mib-modules=\disman/event\ it still gave me errors
[25-Sep-2007 16:37:16] <slimmpete123> well I recompiled net-snmpd
[25-Sep-2007 16:41:18] <MoreDakka_> cluther, I've sent off the request and will get back to you as soon as he gets back to me ;-) thanks.
[25-Sep-2007 16:44:15] <MoreDakka_> cluther: In 2.1 (I'm not sure if it's like this in 2.0.x) on the dashboard it doesn't seem that I can add Systems in there anymore. has that been removed?
[25-Sep-2007 16:45:10] <cluther> It has been changed a bit. If you add an item to one of the "Watch List" portlets, you can start typing /Systems and it will allow you to add systems that you're interested in watching.
[25-Sep-2007 16:50:27] <MoreDakka_> Doesn't list them like it used to.
[25-Sep-2007 16:52:00] <MoreDakka_> Will the google maps applet only show what is in /locations? if I create a location /companyname/townname (townname has the address) doesn't show up in google maps. Is that the way it should be?
[25-Sep-2007 16:54:50] <cluther> MoreDakka_: The google map doesn't look at the name of the location. It looks for the Address field specified within each location.
[25-Sep-2007 16:55:00] <cluther> Click the little [Edit] next to the address inside your locations.
[25-Sep-2007 17:09:16] <MoreDakka_> cluther, in /companyname/townname under townname I have an address that works when it's in /locations but if it move townname to /locations/comanyname it doesn't show up in google maps anymore.
[25-Sep-2007 17:10:05] <cluther> MoreDakka_: If you go to the companyname location and click the Map tab, you should see all sub-locations.
[25-Sep-2007 17:10:21] <cluther> The google map view will only go one level deep.
[25-Sep-2007 17:10:37] <cluther> You can set the base location by editing the map portlet on the dashboard.
[25-Sep-2007 17:14:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: no wonder you stayed away from IRC for a while... you get jumped on when you come around
[25-Sep-2007 17:14:43] <cluther> I'm working on a radiation program to try to grow extra arms and eyes.
[25-Sep-2007 17:14:58] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Sep-2007 17:15:39] <MoreDakka_> cluther: My boss has denied sending those logs. I could put x's where the ip's are if you'd like...but that would make the snmpwalk a big set of x's
[25-Sep-2007 17:16:22] <cluther> MoreDakka_: hmm.. ok, do that but leave the routemasks.
[25-Sep-2007 17:22:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: let me know if you need any help. I used to be a Nuclear ME in the Navy
[25-Sep-2007 17:26:03] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[25-Sep-2007 17:29:20] <Bulwinkle> cluther: need help a sec... how do I get that hot Google map up?
[25-Sep-2007 17:29:56] <MoreDakka_> Ooo...I might be able to help ;-)
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:05] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: please do tell....
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:11] <MoreDakka_> did you just install 2.1?
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:17] <Bulwinkle> I know it has something to do with the locations right?
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:22] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: yeah 2.0.90
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:38] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, on your dashboard do you have the google map? Should show the world by default I think.
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:47] <MoreDakka_> (yay I feel useful)
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:53] <Bulwinkle> Nope, that hasn't even shown up yet
[25-Sep-2007 17:31:31] <kgoedte1> locations, far right maps tab?
[25-Sep-2007 17:31:39] <MoreDakka_> Go to Settings and click on the little "help" next to Google Maps API Key and follow the instructions on how to get your key. Don't forget the :8080 on your domain.
[25-Sep-2007 17:31:53] <kgoedte1> ahh
[25-Sep-2007 17:33:38] <MoreDakka_> Oh and don't make any spelling mistakes on the locations...messes things up on the map pretty bad (I'm located in one province and it was showing the world twice for my locations...haha)
[25-Sep-2007 17:35:26] <Bulwinkle> still no workee
[25-Sep-2007 17:35:41] <Bulwinkle> still not displaying the map at all
[25-Sep-2007 17:35:55] <MoreDakka_> cluther: This would be something nice to see on the google map, if something is down then the dot turns Red. If you mouse over a gren/red dot then it will have a small mouseover window that shows the devices in the list for that location.
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:10] <MoreDakka_> Do you have a valid domain name for the server?
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:18] <cluther> We have the colored dot already.. no mouseover though.
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:18] <MoreDakka_> I haven't tried it with just an IP...
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:32] <MoreDakka_> Hmmm...colored dot isn't working for me
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:34] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: um.... not really
[25-Sep-2007 17:37:01] <cluther> MoreDakka_: You probably received the event before moving the device into the location.
[25-Sep-2007 17:37:06] <MoreDakka_> so you have http://x.x.x.x:8080 as the google maps?
[25-Sep-2007 17:37:37] <MoreDakka_> cluther: The device is down before it got moved in there....once it's reported up and then down again it'll be red?
[25-Sep-2007 17:38:14] <Bulwinkle> cluther: want to see my error in my location window?
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:22] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Right. Events are associated with groups/locations/etc when they're created.
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:25] <Bulwinkle> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/206810
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:32] <MoreDakka_> Ah, cool, thnx.
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:52] <MoreDakka_> OOooo..nice error.
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:10] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Was that an upgrade or a fresh install?
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:23] <Bulwinkle> cluther: upgrade....
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:33] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It looks like the migration didn't run.. try running zenmigrate.
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:41] <Bulwinkle> cluther: did an install.sh.... okay one sec
[25-Sep-2007 17:43:39] <Bulwinkle> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/206819
[25-Sep-2007 17:43:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[25-Sep-2007 17:43:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: zenmigrate barfed
[25-Sep-2007 17:44:42] <Bulwinkle> got it everywhere.... carpet, drapes, on my new suede shoes....
[25-Sep-2007 17:46:06] <MoreDakka_> ha
[25-Sep-2007 17:46:14] <MoreDakka_> gross description
[25-Sep-2007 17:46:40] <Bulwinkle> cluther: zenstatus keeps on dying too
[25-Sep-2007 17:47:06] <kgoedte1> yay for iteration over non-sequence
[25-Sep-2007 18:27:50] <progma> kgoedte1: i'm not getting any emails; do i need to restart zeneventlog or something
[25-Sep-2007 18:28:13] <progma> (for email alerting)
[25-Sep-2007 18:30:26] <progma> i set the threshold to level info from the default so i ought to get a storm of emails
[25-Sep-2007 18:33:37] <cluther> progma: zenactions is the one that sends alerts.
[25-Sep-2007 18:40:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: did you see that pastebin I sent you?
[25-Sep-2007 18:41:48] <cluther> hmm.. the canGraph one?
[25-Sep-2007 18:42:20] <Bulwinkle> cluther: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/206819
[25-Sep-2007 18:42:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[25-Sep-2007 18:42:52] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when I tried the zenmigrate, thats what I got
[25-Sep-2007 18:43:16] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any ideas?
[25-Sep-2007 18:44:06] <cluther> one is brewing..
[25-Sep-2007 18:44:47] <cluther> Try this..
[25-Sep-2007 18:44:53] <cluther> zenmigrate --step=Thresholds
[25-Sep-2007 18:45:12] <cluther> Then if that completes successfully try running the full zenmigrate again.
[25-Sep-2007 18:46:25] <Bulwinkle> cluther: duh... I think I read that in the forums this morning...
[25-Sep-2007 18:46:36] <cluther> doh.. I thought I was being clever.
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:19] <Bulwinkle> more clever than I was apparently
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:21] <cluther> If that works the problem is the ordering of the migrate steps.
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:35] <cluther> Which if I read my changesets properly has now been dealt with.
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:59] <MoreDakka_> cluther: did you get that email for the snmpwalk for the cisco 871?
[25-Sep-2007 18:48:12] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Yeah, thanks.
[25-Sep-2007 18:48:15] <MoreDakka_> good good.
[25-Sep-2007 18:48:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah, saw that bug was addressed.
[25-Sep-2007 18:51:14] <Bulwinkle> Now I get my map.... cool cool.... no dots though
[25-Sep-2007 18:51:34] <Bulwinkle> I have one location called Houston TX with a sublocation called 7210 Ardmore ....
[25-Sep-2007 18:52:03] <Bulwinkle> does it work like that?
[25-Sep-2007 18:54:42] <MoreDakka_> nope
[25-Sep-2007 18:54:52] <MoreDakka_> have to go to the location and click on the Edit next to address
[25-Sep-2007 18:55:15] <MoreDakka_> I've found that you will only be able to get the locations on the dashboard if the locations are in the root of /locations
[25-Sep-2007 18:56:07] <MoreDakka_> it's nice, takes longs/lats as well :-D Anything that google maps can take....yay
[25-Sep-2007 18:56:36] <MoreDakka_> Can I export the data from v1.1.1 into 2.1beta without compromising the v1.1.1?
[25-Sep-2007 18:57:33] <Bulwinkle> Cool!
[25-Sep-2007 18:57:54] <MoreDakka_> Yeah that google maps is a nice feature ;-)
[25-Sep-2007 18:58:04] <MoreDakka_> I hope they put in the mouse-overs.
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[25-Sep-2007 19:23:25] <MoreDakka_> Can I export the data from v1.1.1 into 2.1beta without compromising the v1.1.1?
[25-Sep-2007 19:28:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: if I set my base location to /Locations shouldn't it show my whole network?
[25-Sep-2007 19:29:54] <cluther> Assuming the locations defined directly under /Locations have addresses assigned to them.
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:15] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I see, so subgroups aren't parsed?
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:39] <cluther> Nope. That could lead to some very weird confusion.
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:51] <MoreDakka_> Did for me for a bit.
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:57] <MoreDakka_> Can I export the data from v1.1.1 into 2.1beta without compromising the v1.1.1?
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:01] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I see.... still, very cool way to do things.... Props!
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:10] <MoreDakka_> ^^ 2nd that
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:12] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Yes.
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:41] <MoreDakka_> Just follow the export methods in the upgrading from 1.x to 2.x?
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:51] <cluther> Find the 1.x to 2.x upgrade instructions online. You'll need to take your zendump.zip file and move it to your 2.1 server to load it up.
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:57] <cluther> heh.. yeah.
[25-Sep-2007 19:32:04] <MoreDakka_> ;-) yay, thanks again cluther :-D
[25-Sep-2007 19:32:06] <cluther> Make a backup!
[25-Sep-2007 19:35:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: have I been upgrading the right way by just untar/gziping the Source Tarball and running ./install.sh as zenoss?
[25-Sep-2007 19:35:41] <MoreDakka_> yep
[25-Sep-2007 19:36:14] <MoreDakka_> speaking of backup, what are the best dirs to backup (assuming mysql has been dumped and backed up already)?
[25-Sep-2007 19:37:41] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: there is a backup script
[25-Sep-2007 19:38:45] <cluther> Make a copy of $ZENHOME.
[25-Sep-2007 19:38:53] <cluther> That'll get everything except the MySQL database.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:02] <MoreDakka_> Hmm...didn't know that....I'll look for that backup script.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:11] <MoreDakka_> Ah, good, that's included in my regular backup script.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:12] <cluther> The backup script doesn't backup the code, which would be very helpful if you need to revert to the old version.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:39] <MoreDakka_> So if I have zenhome in my nightly backup I don't need to worry about another backup script?
[25-Sep-2007 19:40:02] <cluther> $ZENHOME and your MySQL databases..
[25-Sep-2007 19:40:50] <MoreDakka_> awesome...thanks.
[25-Sep-2007 19:42:40] <xeor> hmm.. I dont get the graphs (Perf) to work, it worked about five minutes for some hourse ago, I have one spike. But now they dont log anything. I can see the current value beneeth the graphs dough.. Anyone knows what could be wrong?
[25-Sep-2007 19:43:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther: both of my systems have failed on the upgrade.... Data migration failed... Is this due to the zenmigrate thingy I did earlier?
[25-Sep-2007 19:43:24] <cluther> At least.
[25-Sep-2007 19:44:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm doing it on the second server to see if it comes through it without dropping the whole DB
[25-Sep-2007 19:48:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: looks like that worked better
[25-Sep-2007 19:50:42] <fiXXXerMet> Is it difficult to upgrade from zenoss to 2.1 beta?
[25-Sep-2007 19:50:55] <fiXXXerMet> I don't want to lose... anything
[25-Sep-2007 19:51:50] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: what version are you running now?
[25-Sep-2007 19:52:27] <fiXXXerMet> 2.0.6
[25-Sep-2007 19:53:17] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: I just upgraded 2 of my 2.0.5 systems and there was no problem except those already mentioned on the forum.... I'd wait until the full 2.1 release if you're using it as production
[25-Sep-2007 19:53:34] <fiXXXerMet> What's the eta on that?
[25-Sep-2007 19:55:59] <MoreDakka_> That's what I was thinking, don't want to put beta in production @_o
[25-Sep-2007 19:58:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do you know if the windows snmp problems have been resolved?
[25-Sep-2007 19:58:44] <fiXXXerMet> Windows problems?
[25-Sep-2007 19:58:52] <cluther> Are you talking about the invalid literal thing?
[25-Sep-2007 19:59:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah
[25-Sep-2007 19:59:52] <cluther> It has been. It turned out to be a problem with the disk modeler.
[25-Sep-2007 20:00:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah... I noticed removing the HDDs from SNMP resolved it
[25-Sep-2007 20:02:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: excellent... now I just need to get everyone to go to firefox who is going to use it
[25-Sep-2007 20:02:51] <fiXXXerMet> Or, is there a way to install 2.1 beta and copy the DB from my 2.0.6 install?
[25-Sep-2007 20:02:58] <fiXXXerMet> So it starts with the same data.
[25-Sep-2007 20:54:22] <MoreDakka_> cluther, will I still be able to do a zen2dump without shutting zenoss down?
[25-Sep-2007 20:56:36] <cluther> MoreDakka_: yes
[25-Sep-2007 20:59:50] <MoreDakka_> haha....broke it good.
[25-Sep-2007 21:01:48] <MoreDakka_> I got the zope quick start screen in my web browser.
[25-Sep-2007 21:07:24] <MoreDakka_> great...now my testbox is really broken. zenrestore doesn't even want to work for me
[25-Sep-2007 21:10:00] <runlevel> hi
[25-Sep-2007 21:10:06] <MoreDakka_> Well I tried the import again and it keeps puking -> http://pastebin.ca/713993
[25-Sep-2007 21:10:13] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 713993 (at pastebin.ca)
[25-Sep-2007 21:11:33] <runlevel> so i want to do somthing like this: exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.50 shelltest /bin/sh /tmp/shtest but i am unaware of WTF the numbers are and if i need my own or just use that one? can some one explain this to me? is it an OID? how do i make my own so i can make my own commands
[25-Sep-2007 21:24:12] <fiXXXerMet> runlevel: Try snmptranslate -On 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.50
[25-Sep-2007 21:24:18] <fiXXXerMet> That might give yous ome more info on the oid
[25-Sep-2007 21:25:04] <runlevel> i just dont know like.. is that number specific to anything or do i just hit the keyboard 234982734923749823423 and use that number?
[25-Sep-2007 21:26:28] <fiXXXerMet> That number is part of a mib tree... I don't know all of the specifics but there are more "branches" after that part of the tree. If you snmpwalk -c communitystring -v version ip.add.re.ss 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.50 you should get some info
[25-Sep-2007 21:32:11] <runlevel> ok thanks man
[25-Sep-2007 21:57:24] <MoreDakka_> How do I remove anything that has to do with Zenoss and rebuild it from scratch?
[25-Sep-2007 21:57:37] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying stuff on my own but I'm thinking I'm making more of a mess of things.
[25-Sep-2007 22:03:42] <progma> MoreDakka_: couldn't you just uninstall the rpms you used and delete the mysql tables that zenoss uses?
[25-Sep-2007 22:04:05] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying the following command "rpm -qa|grep -i zenoss|xargs rpm --erase" see if that clears it for me.
[25-Sep-2007 22:06:08] <progma> i think it's just one rpm
[25-Sep-2007 22:06:19] <progma> unless you want to totally remove your mysql and python stuff too
[25-Sep-2007 22:07:04] <MoreDakka_> here we go again ;-) trying the install...I just ran that command and removed the mysql dbase..trying the install again.
[25-Sep-2007 22:08:20] <progma> you should get the nifty mysqladmin gui
[25-Sep-2007 22:10:58] <MoreDakka_> bah....so this is what I'm trying to do. I've got a v1.1.1 server that I'm trying to import the data to 2.1beta. Tried to follow the instructions here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/ Didn't work, got this when trying to do a zen2load: http://pastebin.ca/713993 and now I'm stuck cause I tried to uninstall the software with yum ( asI don't know any better) and that really me
[25-Sep-2007 22:11:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2007 22:11:25] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 713993 (at pastebin.ca)
[25-Sep-2007 22:11:56] <MoreDakka_> So now, after running rpm -Uvh zenoss-2... to install the rpm I get "zeoctl start -> bash: zeoctl: command not found" as I'm su'd to zenoss.
[25-Sep-2007 22:18:05] <MoreDakka_> Well, when I come in tomorrow this machine is just going to get formatted and reinstalled. I can't get zeoctl working, tried to reinsatll zenoss 3 times now...
[25-Sep-2007 22:25:12] <MoreDakka_> Ha....me so smrt...like rock. Didn't go through the initial install after going through the rpm....blegh..didn't even think of it earlier.
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[26-Sep-2007 07:06:15] <Freak> what does AttributeError "'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getGraphs'" meanþ?
[26-Sep-2007 11:30:56] <Freak> do locations have any functionality?
[26-Sep-2007 11:31:11] <Freak> besides being able to set a location string for a device?
[26-Sep-2007 14:28:46] <jb> whats the best way to apply an IP service monitor for a whole group? (ie, monitor TCP/22 on /Devices/Linux/FTP Servers)?
[26-Sep-2007 14:40:06] <Bulwinkle> jb: I don't know that there is one
[26-Sep-2007 14:40:32] <MoreDakka_> You can use nagios plugins
[26-Sep-2007 14:40:50] <MoreDakka_> for ver 1.1.1 anyways
[26-Sep-2007 14:46:53] <MoreDakka_> This is what I use for checking tcp port 23 ---> /usr/local/zenoss/libexec/check_tcp ${dev/manageIp} -p 23
[26-Sep-2007 14:47:22] <MoreDakka_> but I'm not sure if that's the same in v2.x
[26-Sep-2007 14:49:38] <jb> well, it can monitor ports
[26-Sep-2007 14:49:40] <jb> thats no big deal
[26-Sep-2007 14:49:53] <jb> im just wondering if there is a way to apply one standard monitor for a whole tree
[26-Sep-2007 14:50:20] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, just put that into a PerfConf (devices) and everything under that tree will be checked with that command.
[26-Sep-2007 14:50:50] <jb> so no way to do it in the web gui?
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:01] <MoreDakka_> What version are you running?
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:16] <jb> 2.0.6
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:28] <MoreDakka_> I've got 2.1beta installed, lemme see how it's done in that.
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:30] <jb> instead od having to go to every box, and clicking ADD IP SERVIXCE
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:50] <jb> i would like to for example add TCP/22 monitoring for all devices under /Devices/Servers/Linux/DNS
[26-Sep-2007 14:53:03] <MoreDakka_> Its a little different in v2.1 then 1.1.1 that's for sure :-/
[26-Sep-2007 14:54:09] <MoreDakka_> So navigate to /Devices/Servers/Linux/DNS , click on Templates, click on Device and in here add in the command for check_tcp. That 'should' check everything in /Devices/Servers/Linux/DNS for whatever you put in that command.
[26-Sep-2007 15:00:41] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: He isn't using a check_tcp command.... he is using ZenOSS's builtin functionality
[26-Sep-2007 15:01:11] <jb> hm
[26-Sep-2007 15:05:00] <jb> More: these are performance templates?
[26-Sep-2007 15:05:53] <MoreDakka_> Oh haha ;-) I misunderstood then.
[26-Sep-2007 15:06:11] <jb> yeah, i dont want performance
[26-Sep-2007 15:06:35] <kgoedtel> if you are saying you want to monitor port 22 as an ip service, you can only set the monitor to true globally, not per device tree
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:23] <jb> but you can enable/disable per device
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:29] <kgoedtel> yes
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:35] <kgoedtel> but not per tree
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:41] <jb> ah damn
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:48] <kgoedtel> i agree
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:01] <jb> i designed my trees because i thought you could do that
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:09] <kgoedtel> probably why there is a placeholder template called ipservice :]
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:30] <jb> yeah
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:31] <jb> hehe
[26-Sep-2007 15:15:41] <MoreDakka_> wait wait.
[26-Sep-2007 15:15:59] <MoreDakka_> So you don't want to monitor performance, you just want to monitor if the tcp/23 is responding right?
[26-Sep-2007 15:20:13] <jb> yes
[26-Sep-2007 15:20:15] <jb> i got it
[26-Sep-2007 15:20:27] <jb> now, I wish there was a way to map SNMP traps before they come in :/
[26-Sep-2007 15:29:35] <jb> what are all of these predefined events?
[26-Sep-2007 15:29:40] <jb> HP/compaq stuff?
[26-Sep-2007 15:57:06] <Merciless> RPC_S_CALL_FAILED: The remote procedure call failed. (1726)
[26-Sep-2007 15:57:10] <Merciless> need some help please
[26-Sep-2007 15:59:22] <kgoedtel> i have the same, dunno what it means
[26-Sep-2007 15:59:31] <kgoedtel> stupid windows servers :]
[26-Sep-2007 15:59:59] <Merciless> lol
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:08] <Merciless> well how do i disable that alert for that server
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:13] <kgoedtel> no idea
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:17] <Merciless> rofl
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:20] <Merciless> helpful u are
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:21] <kgoedtel> im sure something is configured wrong or missing
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:26] <Merciless> me too
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:28] <Merciless> but ive checked most
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:06] <kgoedtel> but for me, the only windows server i am monitoring it is just for dev... so i havent dug into the problem
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:39] <Merciless> o ok
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:43] <Merciless> well i'll be monitoring a lot
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:48] <Merciless> we're a network security and monitoring company
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:48] <Merciless> rofl;
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:55] <Merciless> i dont fancy 90 RPC errors
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:59] <kgoedtel> well, then you should be a pro
[26-Sep-2007 16:02:20] <Merciless> rofl
[26-Sep-2007 16:02:20] <kgoedtel> security and windows... kind of like oxymorons you know
[26-Sep-2007 16:02:26] <Merciless> LOL i know
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:00] <hotgrits> Merciless: you could map this event to the "/Ignore" event class
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:24] <Merciless> ah might give that a try
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:25] <hotgrits> you won't see it again.
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:29] <kgoedtel> i would want to know what it means before ignoring
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:32] <kgoedtel> :|
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:34] <Merciless> although im wondering if with that rpc error its going to mean i cant do wmi monitoring
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:37] <Merciless> me too
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:01] <hotgrits> that error comes from your windows event logs, so its something being logged on windows
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:01] <kgoedtel> however, they do say ignorance is bliss
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:06] <hotgrits> not necessarily zenoss-related
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:51] <kgoedtel> so perhaps event viewer will show more
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:52] <Merciless> ah didnt realise that
[26-Sep-2007 16:05:02] <Merciless> ah well, thank uuu
[26-Sep-2007 16:05:15] <hotgrits> Merciless: you're welcome
[26-Sep-2007 17:13:36] <fiXXXerMet> doot en doot en doo doo
[26-Sep-2007 17:13:48] <MoreDakka_> bored?
[26-Sep-2007 17:13:59] <davetoo> fruer
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:04] <fiXXXerMet> yeah-sih
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:06] <fiXXXerMet> ish*
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:29] <davetoo> how is an upgrade via svn supposed to work?
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:39] <davetoo> I had 2.090 installed,
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:46] <davetoo> in /opt/zenoss;
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:58] <davetoo> I created /home/zenoss/zenossinst,
[26-Sep-2007 17:15:15] <davetoo> did the initial svn checkout and then ran install.sh there,
[26-Sep-2007 17:15:25] <davetoo> and it complained about files/directories already existing.
[26-Sep-2007 17:15:54] <davetoo> (For now, I just moved /opt/zenoss and I'll copy back in the Data.fs, etc.)
[26-Sep-2007 17:17:12] <fiXXXerMet> Question. I have zenoss deployed at our location, monitoring our local office and about 6 remote offices. When our WAN goes down, there is no way for us to be notified. Could I simply setup zenoss on my home server, have it monitor our firewalls, and when the connection is down, send an email?
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[26-Sep-2007 17:41:23] <fiXXXerMet> Why does zenoss need the MySQL root user/pass, when I give it full privileges on it's own db?
[26-Sep-2007 17:43:08] <davetoo> So it can create the table and triggers (and stored procedures, I think)
[26-Sep-2007 17:46:03] <CharlieS1> I'm running ubuntu feisty and i can't get snmpd configured correctly for a localhost install of zenoss.. would anyone pastebin their config?
[26-Sep-2007 17:46:35] <fiXXXerMet> Does it keep the root password?
[26-Sep-2007 17:48:14] <CharlieS1> does what keep the root password?
[26-Sep-2007 17:49:14] <fiXXXerMet> zenoss
[26-Sep-2007 17:49:28] <fiXXXerMet> mysql root
[26-Sep-2007 17:56:21] <davetoo> Not sure, but there's something boogered in the install/upgrade scripts,
[26-Sep-2007 17:56:51] <davetoo> if you're upgrading it doesn't ask for the mysql root password, it just assumes a NULL password and fails if it isn't.
[26-Sep-2007 17:57:45] <fiXXXerMet> hmm
[26-Sep-2007 18:51:15] <fiXXXerMet> Ugh, I need help.
[26-Sep-2007 18:51:58] <fiXXXerMet> Trying to tell a sonicwall firewall to let a remote (WAN) ip address connect with snmp. nmapping the firewall shows the ports as open|filtered
[26-Sep-2007 19:11:53] <CharlieS1> Is there a way to get templates and graphs into Zenoss Core?
[26-Sep-2007 19:15:00] CharlieS1 is now known as CharlieSu
[26-Sep-2007 19:22:14] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone tellm e why I can't import data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1beta? I keep getting http://pastebin.ca/716361
[26-Sep-2007 19:22:22] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 716361 (at pastebin.ca)
[26-Sep-2007 19:25:26] <slimmpete> Hello everyone!
[26-Sep-2007 19:25:47] <fiXXXerMet> hi!
[26-Sep-2007 19:25:58] <slimmpete> Does anyone know of any way to resolve snmptrap authirization error
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:11] <MoreDakka_> fiXXXer: Do you have any idea why I can't import data?
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:20] <slimmpete> Does Zenoss have snmptrap configuration
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:30] <fiXXXerMet> No idea MoreDakka_
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:35] <MoreDakka_> bah
[26-Sep-2007 19:27:02] <slimmpete> I know that zentrap is tha trap server for zenoss
[26-Sep-2007 19:27:32] <slimmpete> But I where can I find documentation to configuring it
[26-Sep-2007 19:30:14] <CharlieSu> Is there a way to get templates and graphs into Zenoss Core? Are the nice defaults only available for paying customers?
[26-Sep-2007 20:16:18] <fiXXXerMet> What is Consolidation: AVERAGE?
[26-Sep-2007 20:35:22] <fiXXXerMet> Can anyone help me with the maps part of 2.1? I can see maps, but I don't have any lines between two locations.
[26-Sep-2007 20:38:09] <slimmpete> does anyone know the default zentrap trapcommunity string?
[26-Sep-2007 20:58:40] <fiXXXerMet> How do I get the link line between my locations on the map?
[26-Sep-2007 20:58:46] <fiXXXerMet> Both have addresses set.
[26-Sep-2007 20:59:36] <fiXXXerMet> And how do they have locations connecting to more than 1 location?
[26-Sep-2007 21:08:18] <MoreDakka_> Ooo...good question
[26-Sep-2007 21:08:35] <MoreDakka_> I don't think that's their idea....yet...but that would be sweet to see.
[26-Sep-2007 21:11:32] <fiXXXerMet> I saw it in their screenshots
[26-Sep-2007 21:23:52] <MoreDakka_> Oooo...do you have a linky?
[26-Sep-2007 21:23:59] <MoreDakka_> I think zenmodeler is broken in 2.1beta
[26-Sep-2007 21:24:14] <MoreDakka_> for my cisco 871 anyways
[26-Sep-2007 21:24:23] <MoreDakka_> other devices seem to model no problem.
[26-Sep-2007 21:34:12] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
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[26-Sep-2007 22:29:33] <sleske> Hi!
[26-Sep-2007 22:41:16] <sleske> hm...
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[27-Sep-2007 10:03:10] <ugenk> i've just downloaded 2.0.6 vmware image and trying to log in to the web interface
[27-Sep-2007 10:03:31] <ugenk> i've tryed to log in with admin / zenoss credentials - but it says:
[27-Sep-2007 10:03:40] <ugenk> The credentials you supplied were not correct or did not grant access to this resource.
[27-Sep-2007 10:04:04] <ugenk> i've logged in to the console, made su - zenoss and run zenpass
[27-Sep-2007 10:04:25] <ugenk> changed password for admin to 123 - but it still does not allow to login into the web ui
[27-Sep-2007 10:04:40] <ugenk> what am i missing?
[27-Sep-2007 10:31:14] <Merciless> 2 events are not class /Unknown. Created 0 event mappings.
[27-Sep-2007 10:31:21] <Merciless> i get that when i try and map an event to /ignore so i dont get it again
[27-Sep-2007 10:31:22] <Merciless> any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 11:40:08] <Merciless> grr
[27-Sep-2007 11:40:11] <Merciless> this things driving me insane
[27-Sep-2007 11:40:19] <Merciless> how do i disable a threshold for a device type
[27-Sep-2007 12:01:53] <Merciless> so many bugs in this
[27-Sep-2007 12:02:07] <Merciless> ive told a threshold to be disabled but its still bringing up fkin alerts lol
[27-Sep-2007 12:29:44] <Merciless> hey Bulwinkle how are you
[27-Sep-2007 12:46:26] <Bulwinkle> Hi Merciless, doing good, you?
[27-Sep-2007 12:47:44] <Merciless> Not bad thanks
[27-Sep-2007 12:47:54] <Merciless> starting to run zenoss side by side with our current monitoring system for comparisons
[27-Sep-2007 12:54:07] <Merciless> having some trouble as always
[27-Sep-2007 13:39:53] <xeor> Is there any SELinux rules to zenoss out there? I dont feel 100% comfertable running zensocket with setuidbit root..
[27-Sep-2007 14:04:39] <hotgrits> xeor: good question. I don't think we have any at this point but we should create some
[27-Sep-2007 14:10:33] <xeor> Goodie..
[27-Sep-2007 14:11:56] <xeor> google didnt gave me much info when searching for selinux and zenoss eighter.. But hopefully someone will see into that soon. I dont know if I can create that kinda rules, yet..
[27-Sep-2007 14:12:04] <adytum-bot> xeor: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[27-Sep-2007 14:12:29] <xeor> adytum-bot: yea, you do that...
[27-Sep-2007 14:12:29] <adytum-bot> xeor: Error: 'yea,' is not a valid command.
[27-Sep-2007 14:14:43] <Merciless> 2 events are not class /Unknown. Created 0 event mappings.
[27-Sep-2007 14:14:45] <Merciless> i get that when i try and map an event to /ignore so i dont get it again
[27-Sep-2007 14:14:47] <Merciless> any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 14:28:33] <zaf> in Zenoss 2.0, how do you override the 'Speed' of an interface, or set the utilization alarm?
[27-Sep-2007 14:28:53] <zaf> ah, i think i found it
[27-Sep-2007 14:29:14] <zaf> yeah, nmind
[27-Sep-2007 15:13:31] <nws> hi, what is the proper way to upgrade from 1.1 to 2.0.91?
[27-Sep-2007 15:13:53] <nws> to use the http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/
[27-Sep-2007 15:14:05] <nws> or http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/zenoss-migration-scripts/
[27-Sep-2007 15:14:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 15:14:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Zenoss Migration Scripts - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:29] <MoreDakka_> Ha...good luck
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:37] <MoreDakka_> If you get that working, plaese tell me your secret.
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:50] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to go from v1.1.1 -> v2.1beta
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:54] <nws> MoreDakka_: have you done an upgrade or just reinstalled?
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:57] <MoreDakka_> It's ugly
[27-Sep-2007 15:19:00] <nws> ah
[27-Sep-2007 15:19:02] <nws> yea it is
[27-Sep-2007 15:19:15] <nws> its ridiculous the docs arent any better than this
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:10] <MoreDakka_> <cough>It's free</cough> But yeah, the migration docs are not working for me at all.
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:29] <nws> not that i can't learn python, i just would have thought the "Migration Scripts" docs would be step-by-step
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:38] <nws> yea
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:49] <MoreDakka_> If you want to join in the fun: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11164#11164
[27-Sep-2007 15:21:02] <nws> i tried the zenoss data migration and that zen2dump.py is broken for me
[27-Sep-2007 15:21:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Trying to migrate data from v1.1.1 -> v2.1beta (at community.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 15:21:08] <nws> wtcrap?
[27-Sep-2007 15:22:06] <MoreDakka_> I'm actually trying to take the data from our production sever onto a testbox so I can make sure everything works before putting it in production....it's not looking too promising.
[27-Sep-2007 15:29:41] * nws shakes head
[27-Sep-2007 15:29:47] <nws> we only have a production box
[27-Sep-2007 15:32:38] <MoreDakka_> hehe. We have about 150 devices that we monitor and can't have that box go down or loose the data at all...my boss would freak out in a bad way if that happened.
[27-Sep-2007 15:55:57] <MoreDakka_> Maybe the just released 2.0.91 will fix my problem....
[27-Sep-2007 16:06:54] <nws> well, thats what im working with
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:10] <MoreDakka_> Probably not going to fix my problem then
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:32] <MoreDakka_> Are you getting the same types of errors that I'm getting (posted in the topic on the forums)?
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:34] <nws> i just wish the Zenoss Migration Scripts docs would be detailed step-by-step instructions
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:50] <nws> no, i havent even used zen2load
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:20] <MoreDakka_> What part did you get to before it puked?
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:27] <nws> i was using the "Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0" docs with this zen2dump.py and the script is broken
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:49] <nws> are you using this link? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:50] <MoreDakka_> That sucks...I didn't have any problems with that portion of the instructions.
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:54] <MoreDakka_> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:04] <nws> hmm, ill show you what happens
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:40] <nws> http://pastebin.com/m258caeaa
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:47] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:56] <nws> damn that bot is annoying
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:15] <nws> _http://pastebin.com/m258caeaa_
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:31] <MoreDakka_> yeesh.....and that's just from running the zen2dump.py?
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:32] <nws> yea, it can't parse that
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:37] <nws> yep
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:40] <nws> i hate this
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:51] <nws> and it hates me too im sure
[27-Sep-2007 16:11:22] <MoreDakka_> hehe
[27-Sep-2007 16:11:36] <MoreDakka_> Well lets both hope cluther comes on at some point today...
[27-Sep-2007 16:11:51] <nws> sooner rather than later i hope
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:04] <MoreDakka_> have you posted in the forums?
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:16] <nws> no
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:21] <MoreDakka_> should.
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:41] <nws> ill do that
[27-Sep-2007 16:15:27] <nws> btw, is this link broken for you? _http://www.zenoss.com/acl_users/credentials_cookie_auth/login_form?came_from=http%3A//www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/document_view_
[27-Sep-2007 16:15:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:01] <MoreDakka_> Did you mean to have the " _ " in front of http?
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:24] <nws> yea, i thought the bot wouldnt parse it, but it did
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:27] <MoreDakka_> ahha
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:36] <fiXXXerMet> Have any of you moved zenoss from port 8080 to 443 or 80 (We want to setup ssl)?
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:37] <MoreDakka_> I get a login prompt for that page.
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:48] <MoreDakka_> not I.
[27-Sep-2007 16:17:40] <nws> well, from this page http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/ the link "Upgrading from with Zenoss 1.x" points to that login page
[27-Sep-2007 16:17:53] <nws> even when logged in, it will point you to the login page
[27-Sep-2007 16:17:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install Guides - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:18:13] <nws> im about to /ignore that bot
[27-Sep-2007 16:18:21] <nws> in fact, i just have
[27-Sep-2007 16:27:20] <MoreDakka_> This is just getting better and better for me too. I wanted to try 2.0.91 instead of 2.0.90 and I can't even start zenoss, all the config files are missing on a fresh install...weeeee
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:07] <nws> i hope you backed them up
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:20] <nws> also, what is not starting?
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:21] <MoreDakka_> Megh...test box, not worried about things breaking.
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:24] <MoreDakka_> everything.
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:44] <nws> if you do a ps and grep for zenoss, what comes up?
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:53] <MoreDakka_> http://pastebin.ca/717394
[27-Sep-2007 16:29:01] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 717394 (at pastebin.ca)
[27-Sep-2007 16:29:08] <MoreDakka_> nada
[27-Sep-2007 16:30:23] <nws> uh, well, just push the backup and start over
[27-Sep-2007 16:31:52] <MoreDakka_> It's strange that I can't install from scratch that I keep getting this uglyness.
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:01] <davetoo> release notes say something about having to run zenmigrate even for a clean-slate install. Did you do that?
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:29] <nws> saw that
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:38] <nws> thats kinda weird
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:41] <davetoo> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:57] <davetoo> I didn't do that for my 2.0.90 install,
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:06] <davetoo> and then I did an svn update,
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:20] <davetoo> seems to be working OK.
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:23] <MoreDakka_> I'm going to have to put that on hold for a little bit as I'm tryign to do a bunch of firmware updates at the same time.
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:24] <nws> however, id like some guided help with editing the python scripts for that migration
[27-Sep-2007 16:34:14] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[27-Sep-2007 16:34:46] <davetoo> bah. zenping won't stay running, though.
[27-Sep-2007 16:35:12] <davetoo> _mysql_exceptions.IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry 'ac13f88135d6fa7dffffffe' for key 1")
[27-Sep-2007 17:35:46] Tinozaure is now known as Tino
[27-Sep-2007 17:35:51] Tino is now known as Tinozaure
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:15] <jsm> can someone define ssCpuRawWait for me?
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:43] <kgoedte1> percentage of cpu time spent doing nothing
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:54] <jsm> the same as idle?
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:58] <jsm> or is it an iowait?
[27-Sep-2007 17:51:12] <kgoedtel> i dunno if it is like iowait, maybe
[27-Sep-2007 17:51:47] <kgoedtel> percentage of cpu requests that have to wait per cycle maybe
[27-Sep-2007 17:52:21] <jsm> os if i have 300% RawWait on a 4 processor system, that could be a bottleneck/problem?
[27-Sep-2007 18:11:10] <nws> are you two running 1.1?
[27-Sep-2007 18:11:29] <kgoedtel> no, im running 2.0.6
[27-Sep-2007 18:14:37] <jsm> i'm running 2.04
[27-Sep-2007 18:17:47] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone here using 2.1 beta with the maps (multiple locations)?
[27-Sep-2007 18:19:44] <MoreDakka_> I did for a bit
[27-Sep-2007 18:19:57] <MoreDakka_> until I wanted to import data and now everything is borked
[27-Sep-2007 18:19:58] <nws> kgoedtel: did you upgrade from 1.x?
[27-Sep-2007 18:20:06] <nws> or you jsm?
[27-Sep-2007 18:22:10] <fiXXXerMet> MoreDakka_: Did you have the neat lines going between locations on the map?
[27-Sep-2007 18:22:49] <MoreDakka_> Naw, I remember you asking about that. I had multiple locations but none of them are linked in real life so I guess my situation doesn't apply to yours.
[27-Sep-2007 18:23:20] <fiXXXerMet> ah
[27-Sep-2007 18:24:07] <MoreDakka_> I would build some in for you but everything broke really bad when I tried to put in the 2.0.91...
[27-Sep-2007 18:24:39] <fiXXXerMet> build some?
[27-Sep-2007 18:24:41] <davetoo> HAHAHA: INFO:zen.migrate:Installing AnnoyingAlerts
[27-Sep-2007 18:25:13] <MoreDakka_> davetoo: you mentioned I had to run zenmigrate, I keep getting this over and over again: "WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(21569) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED"
[27-Sep-2007 18:25:44] <MoreDakka_> any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:17] <davetoo> You probably need to have zeoctl and zopectl running
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:25] <davetoo> (but none of the other daemons)
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:40] <MoreDakka_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:46] <MoreDakka_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:51] <MoreDakka_> @_o
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:51] <adytum-bot> MoreDakka_: Error: '_o' is not a valid command.
[27-Sep-2007 18:27:05] <davetoo> You used the RPM, didn't you?
[27-Sep-2007 18:27:11] <MoreDakka_> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 18:27:32] <davetoo> That happened to me when I tried the RPM, so I downloaded and installed from source tarball.
[27-Sep-2007 18:28:04] <MoreDakka_> weeee...soo much fun trying to play with the beta....what did they break from 2.090 -> 2.091?
[27-Sep-2007 18:28:56] <davetoo> dunno yet
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:17] <jsm> nws: no, it was a fresh install
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:21] <davetoo> I'm having trouble with events right now.
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:22] <nws> aha
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:41] <davetoo> No "Acknowledge" or "Send to History" options, just "Download as CSV"
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:48] <davetoo> oh, shit, n/mind
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:52] <davetoo> I'm logged in as "guest"
[27-Sep-2007 18:30:07] * davetoo <--- half-asleep
[27-Sep-2007 18:33:23] <MoreDakka_> haha
[27-Sep-2007 18:51:41] <nws> does anyone know what 'Globals' need to be imported for the zen2dump.py to work?
[27-Sep-2007 19:03:21] <MoreDakka_> I haven't installed from source before. Is it untar it, ./configure, make, make install?
[27-Sep-2007 19:04:21] <nws> MoreDakka_: well, that will happen once i can migrate the damn data
[27-Sep-2007 19:04:37] <MoreDakka_> But that is the correct way to do it?
[27-Sep-2007 19:04:51] <nws> and i dont know the 'Globals' that the zen2dump.py is trying to import
[27-Sep-2007 19:07:34] <fiXXXerMet> What OID do I use to get the memory usage percent on a windows server?
[27-Sep-2007 19:08:31] <davetoo> nws: did you set $ZENHOME and $ZENPATH in the zenoss users' .bashrc (or other startup file)?
[27-Sep-2007 19:08:53] <nws> i havent, but ill check if it is set
[27-Sep-2007 19:08:59] <davetoo> It needs to be
[27-Sep-2007 19:09:46] <nws> ZENPATH
[27-Sep-2007 19:10:35] <nws> what is $ZENPATH supposed to be?
[27-Sep-2007 19:10:48] <nws> i have ZENHOME and PYTHONHOME
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:01] <nws> davetoo: ?
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:05] <davetoo> I may be mis-remembering
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:35] <davetoo> I was indeed misremembering
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:52] <davetoo> it's PYTHONPATH
[27-Sep-2007 19:15:22] <davetoo> PYTHONPATH=${ZENHOME}/lib/pythong
[27-Sep-2007 19:15:24] <davetoo> -g
[27-Sep-2007 19:15:52] <nws> yea
[27-Sep-2007 19:16:01] <nws> but you know what my problem was?
[27-Sep-2007 19:16:19] <nws> su-ing to zenoss but the .profile wasnt getting sourced
[27-Sep-2007 19:16:23] <nws> grrrrrr
[27-Sep-2007 19:19:32] <fiXXXerMet> How do you have zenoss report when it can't ping a machine as a critical event?
[27-Sep-2007 19:22:28] <davetoo> zenping's default event severity is CRITICAL, I think
[27-Sep-2007 19:40:43] <fiXXXerMet> davetoo: As did I, but we restarted a server, the availability went down, and we didn't receive any events
[27-Sep-2007 19:47:37] <MoreDakka_> omg, this is getting stupid now. I just tried to install v2.06 and I'm still getting all the conf files are missing and won't start any of the deamons....this is a fresh install after removing the beta via rpm and removing all the zenoss directories.
[27-Sep-2007 19:49:58] <davetoo> I don't trust RPMs
[27-Sep-2007 19:50:06] <davetoo> s/trust/use
[27-Sep-2007 19:50:28] <MoreDakka_> I don't trust myself to install via source.
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:20] <eeurowerk> anyone know why I would be able to connect to freenode but then not be able to join the channel?
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:25] <eeurowerk> or any channel, for that matter?
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:30] <MoreDakka_> Ah me smart.
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:47] <MoreDakka_> I wasn't starting zenoss from root but from zenoss and it doesn't like that too much.
[27-Sep-2007 19:59:59] <eeurowerk> you're supposed to start up zenoss from root?
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:17] <MoreDakka_> for first time start....so it can finish building everything
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:23] <MoreDakka_> rpm install
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:28] <MoreDakka_> service zenoss start
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:31] <MoreDakka_> weeee.
[27-Sep-2007 20:06:16] <slimmpete> anyhelp with this error guys?
[27-Sep-2007 20:06:19] <slimmpete> snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from wl01.fxdd.com
[27-Sep-2007 20:08:16] <nws> ok so now im getting throught the install.sh but im still getting an error
[27-Sep-2007 20:09:27] <nws> http://rafb.net/p/SPC70s61.html
[27-Sep-2007 20:09:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Nopaste - Zenoss errors NO ZENBUILD.LOG (at rafb.net)
[27-Sep-2007 20:09:37] <MoreDakka_> slimmpete: I think that means that a machine has tried to access that machine with an incorrect snmp community
[27-Sep-2007 20:10:06] <MoreDakka_> nws....well I know it's not the beta that's the problem, tried the data import on 2.0.6 and it's generating the same errors for me.
[27-Sep-2007 20:10:34] <nws> the script?
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:02] <nws> i mean, for one, this script trying to create a backup in the directory its tarring wont work
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:19] <nws> i changed the backup.tar to /tmp/backup.tar
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:44] <MoreDakka_> You can just manually tar $ZENHOME and it pretty much does the same thing.
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:56] <MoreDakka_> that script also ran no problems for me from v1.1.1
[27-Sep-2007 20:12:04] <MoreDakka_> wonder if you have a problem with python or somethign?
[27-Sep-2007 20:12:09] <nws> right, so then just choose 'n' when doing the backup?
[27-Sep-2007 20:15:23] <MoreDakka_> n?
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:06] <nws> as in "no"
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:28] <nws> well, it seems that i missed one of the 'backup.tar's
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:31] <MoreDakka_> haha...I have never been prompted to do a backup.
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:36] <nws> ...
[27-Sep-2007 20:18:08] <MoreDakka_> When I ran that backup script it just ran and created the /$ZENHOME/backup/backup.tar file for me.
[27-Sep-2007 20:18:31] <nws> but you used the rpm right?
[27-Sep-2007 20:19:18] <MoreDakka_> For our original install of v1.1.1 (I'm sorry if I'm lost here...trying to do firmware updates as well).
[27-Sep-2007 20:19:52] <nws> but you used the source for the upgrade?
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:09] <MoreDakka_> I never did an upgrade, I have a seperate server that I copied the zendump.zip to (the backup just stayed on the production server...it was recommended to do a backup before anything else).
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:19] <MoreDakka_> The server I did an rpm install.
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:25] <MoreDakka_> sorry, 2nd server.
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:43] <nws> so where are you getting stuck?
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:14] <MoreDakka_> Trying to import the data into the test server (2.0.90 or 2.0.6)
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:22] <nws> oh
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:25] <nws> i shee
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:51] <MoreDakka_> I'm not touching my production envrionment until I know this build is stable.
[27-Sep-2007 20:25:02] <nws> heh
[27-Sep-2007 20:25:43] <MoreDakka_> And when I'm having this many problems importing data from a past build, I'm not really impressed.
[27-Sep-2007 20:37:40] <MoreDakka_> strange, now I'm getting that "No module named Globals" error that your getting. Wanted to try another export of the data and it's b0rked.
[27-Sep-2007 20:40:57] <nws> no
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:01] <nws> wait
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:09] <nws> are you running it as 'zenoss'?
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:17] <MoreDakka_> Yeah tried as root and zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:32] <MoreDakka_> exact same error
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:35] <nws> do it as zenoss but remember to export all the envvars
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:44] <MoreDakka_> eh?
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:50] <nws> or source a '.profile' with the envvars in it
[27-Sep-2007 20:42:29] <nws> $ZENHOME, $PYTHONPATH, and $PATH
[27-Sep-2007 20:42:38] <nws> when those are exported, it will work
[27-Sep-2007 20:43:03] <MoreDakka_> So yeah...I'm a linux nub, I'm not sure what to do on that.
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:04] <nws> ok, in /home/zenoss, create a file called '.profile'
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:27] <nws> and inside it, write out the lines...
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:32] <nws> ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:37] <nws> PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:41] <nws> PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:56] <nws> and then do '. ~/.profile'
[27-Sep-2007 20:45:03] <nws> then try running the script again
[27-Sep-2007 20:46:48] <MoreDakka_> bash: .~/.profile: No such file or directory
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:01] <MoreDakka_> but in the /home/zenoss I have a .profile
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:15] <eeurowerk> no . before the tilde
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:21] <nws> there is a space between '.' and '~'
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:21] <eeurowerk> just ~/.profile
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:38] <nws> the . sources the file
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:51] <eeurowerk> oh ok
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:08] <eeurowerk> don't you have to run `source`?
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:14] <eeurowerk> source ~/.profile
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:15] <eeurowerk> ?
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:15] <nws> no
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:18] <eeurowerk> hrm
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:19] <nws> the . does it
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:23] <eeurowerk> i see
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:24] <eeurowerk> never knew that
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:25] <nws> its pretty much the same
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:32] <nws> you can read up on the differences
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:42] <nws> im not well versed in them myself
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:50] <eeurowerk> i got a question
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:51] <nws> but in linux the '.' will do it well enough
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:53] <nws> and bash
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:57] <nws> bash is key
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:03] <eeurowerk> for monitoring websites
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:08] <eeurowerk> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:23] <eeurowerk> some of the other shells are nice but I've never liked them like I do bash
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:56] <nws> i think the dot works only in bash
[27-Sep-2007 20:50:58] <MoreDakka_> Nope, same error.
[27-Sep-2007 20:51:06] <eurowerke> aaah okay
[27-Sep-2007 20:53:37] <eurowerke> argh
[27-Sep-2007 20:54:24] <MoreDakka_> <-- giving up on zenoss upgrade for now....it's easier and less stressful to upgrade firmware on client's modems.
[27-Sep-2007 20:55:11] <davetoo> Modems?
[27-Sep-2007 20:55:13] <davetoo> how quaint
[27-Sep-2007 20:55:27] <nws> ya rly
[27-Sep-2007 20:56:08] <MoreDakka_> Sorry, radios
[27-Sep-2007 20:56:43] <MoreDakka_> There are still lots of modems out there...sheesh, not that quaint.
[27-Sep-2007 21:08:21] <progma> yah if your internet goes out, how will people get notified; modems on POTS still great for backup
[27-Sep-2007 21:09:20] <MoreDakka_> Gooooo ISDN....token-ring....way before my time but still had to learn about it ;-)
[27-Sep-2007 21:09:35] <MoreDakka_> (not saying ISDN=token-ring)
[27-Sep-2007 21:10:22] <davetoo> I had ISDN at home for a while
[27-Sep-2007 21:10:31] <davetoo> plus frame-relay
[27-Sep-2007 21:11:17] <MoreDakka_> frame-relay still isn't bad.
[27-Sep-2007 21:11:25] <progma> spids n bitsurfers
[27-Sep-2007 21:13:53] <fiXXXerMet> Does anyone know how to make the links between locations work, as show in http://www.zenoss.com/site-images/google-map_dashboard_thumb.png ?
[27-Sep-2007 21:15:16] <MoreDakka_> You have really good eyes...that is the smallest map ever
[27-Sep-2007 21:15:39] <fiXXXerMet> oops
[27-Sep-2007 21:15:43] <MoreDakka_> hehe
[27-Sep-2007 21:16:27] <fiXXXerMet> http://www.zenoss.com/site-images/google-map_dashboard.png
[27-Sep-2007 21:16:52] <MoreDakka_> Maybe they drew that in afterwards with paint?
[27-Sep-2007 21:17:08] <fiXXXerMet> lol
[27-Sep-2007 21:17:11] <fiXXXerMet> I hope not
[27-Sep-2007 21:32:53] <slimmpete> Okay I am getting zen heartbeat failure
[27-Sep-2007 21:32:57] <slimmpete> in zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 21:33:05] <slimmpete> anyone know what these are
[27-Sep-2007 21:33:24] <MoreDakka_> I think it means that the deamon is not responding within a certain amount of time.
[27-Sep-2007 21:33:41] <MoreDakka_> I always find that zenmodeler has that problem (in v1.1.1 anyways)
[27-Sep-2007 21:34:06] <MoreDakka_> And a reboot of zenmodeler every couple weeks is what fixes it.
[27-Sep-2007 21:34:16] <slimmpete> I am getting it for all zen processes
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[27-Sep-2007 21:38:08] <eurowerke> whenever I try to log in to the site, it fails once then allows me in on the second try
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:14] <eurowerke> every time
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:19] <eurowerke> anyone have any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:41] <eurowerke> i have restarted and rebooted the server already
[27-Sep-2007 21:39:09] <eurowerke> the only difference is that I changed the DNS entry for the server... at first there were two but that caused other problems, so I deleted the old one
[27-Sep-2007 21:39:36] <eurowerke> i assume this is a part of the reason for it, but I don't know where to start to fix it
[27-Sep-2007 21:52:44] <slimmpete> Anyone know how to read unknown oids?
[27-Sep-2007 21:53:06] <slimmpete> fom a particular system
[27-Sep-2007 21:55:34] <eurowerke> slimmpete: what do you mean by unknown oids?
[27-Sep-2007 21:55:57] <slimmpete> I am sending snmp traps to zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 21:56:12] <slimmpete> and I am having difficulty with it
[27-Sep-2007 21:56:26] <eurowerke> do you have the MIBs for the device that's sending traps installed?
[27-Sep-2007 21:58:02] <slimmpete> I copied all the mibs from /usr/share/snmp/mibs
[27-Sep-2007 21:58:21] <slimmpete> from the server and loaded them into Zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 21:59:33] <eurowerke> what is the device sending traps?
[27-Sep-2007 21:59:49] <slimmpete> zenmib run and the directory to the mibs
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:16] <eurowerke> I mean, what sort of device is it that you have set up to send traps?
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:23] <eurowerke> or program, etc?
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:48] <slimmpete> It is standard linux install
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:58] <slimmpete> RHEL 4
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:13] <slimmpete> I am guessing it is a system issue
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:25] <eurowerke> ?
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:29] <slimmpete> I setup traps and now I can get traps
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:33] <eurowerke> so you're having the linux server send traps?
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:40] <slimmpete> correct
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:48] <eurowerke> that is what I was asking
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:55] <slimmpete> Okay
[27-Sep-2007 22:02:01] <slimmpete> sorry
[27-Sep-2007 22:02:03] <eurowerke> so what's your problem?
[27-Sep-2007 22:02:08] <slimmpete> for the confusion
[27-Sep-2007 22:03:30] <slimmpete> It is sending traps like... snmp trap 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17 from
[27-Sep-2007 22:04:01] <slimmpete> do we know how to read this oid
[27-Sep-2007 22:04:02] <slimmpete> ?
[27-Sep-2007 22:04:18] <slimmpete> is there a linux utility that lets you know what that means
[27-Sep-2007 22:05:36] <eurowerke> well
[27-Sep-2007 22:05:44] <eurowerke> there is the standard set of OIDs I believe
[27-Sep-2007 22:05:58] <eurowerke> then there are oids that are mfr specific
[27-Sep-2007 22:06:17] <eurowerke> so let's see here...
[27-Sep-2007 22:06:18] <MoreDakka_> snmpwalk -v1 -c<community> -OT <device> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17 ? That might work
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:02] <eurowerke> the -OT switch will allow you to see the actual text label for that OID
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:05] <eurowerke> if it is supported
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:25] <slimmpete> okay let me try
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:59] <eurowerke> lol MoreDakka_ if I'd have known that was all he wanted I'd have said that a while ago
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:59] <eurowerke> haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:08:47] <slimmpete> okay returned nothing
[27-Sep-2007 22:09:22] <slimmpete> That means that it isn't supported
[27-Sep-2007 22:09:39] <MoreDakka_> haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:09:56] <MoreDakka_> Try it without the -OT
[27-Sep-2007 22:10:17] <slimmpete> still nothing
[27-Sep-2007 22:10:23] <eurowerke> is your command:
[27-Sep-2007 22:10:52] <eurowerke> snmpwalk -v1 -c public localhost 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17?
[27-Sep-2007 22:11:16] <slimmpete> snmpwalk -v1 -c <rocommunity string> <server name> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17
[27-Sep-2007 22:11:22] <slimmpete> correct
[27-Sep-2007 22:11:37] <eurowerke> try 127.0.0.1 for <device>
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:38] <slimmpete> all no help
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:41] <eurowerke> d0h
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:41] <eurowerke> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:42] <slimmpete> localhost
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:43] <eurowerke> no support
[27-Sep-2007 22:13:27] <slimmpete> so why would a system send a trap with non supported MIB
[27-Sep-2007 22:13:38] <eurowerke> LOL
[27-Sep-2007 22:13:40] <eurowerke> i have no clue
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:07] <eurowerke> are you using Net-SNMP?
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:07] <slimmpete> maybe someone is trying to play trick and send snmptrap manually'
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:13] <slimmpete> yes
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:16] <slimmpete> it stinks
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:19] <slimmpete> I hate it
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:36] <eurowerke> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17wow
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:42] <eurowerke> woops
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:45] <slimmpete> I have looked for other agents but no one has been able to give me any help
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:52] <eurowerke> a search of google for that OID even returns NO results
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:58] <slimmpete> Yeha
[27-Sep-2007 22:15:02] <slimmpete> yeah*
[27-Sep-2007 22:15:42] <eurowerke> could be some proprietary OID from something
[27-Sep-2007 22:15:52] <eurowerke> i'm fairly new to this oid/mib stuff
[27-Sep-2007 22:16:00] <eurowerke> snmp stuff in general, I should say
[27-Sep-2007 22:16:00] <MoreDakka_> OMG it's a USELESS OID!!!11!!!
[27-Sep-2007 22:16:03] <MoreDakka_> ;=-)
[27-Sep-2007 22:17:06] <MoreDakka_> Oo....killed the conversation :-/
[27-Sep-2007 22:17:32] <eurowerke> haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:17:41] <slimmpete> I'll see if any of you guys know of any good snmp/trap agent that is better and easier to configur then net-snmpd
[27-Sep-2007 22:18:15] <eurowerke> i don't know of anything "better" but perhaps easier to configure
[27-Sep-2007 22:18:29] <slimmpete> okay?
[27-Sep-2007 22:19:57] <MoreDakka_> Yeah there isn't much better.
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:24] <slimmpete> how about easier to configure?
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:25] <MoreDakka_> snmpd is the easiest I've seen.
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:42] <slimmpete> hahahahah
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:57] <MoreDakka_> doesn't have the net
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:59] <MoreDakka_> ;-)
[27-Sep-2007 22:22:00] <slimmpete> can you tell me then why net-snmpd does not send any traps to zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 22:22:16] <slimmpete> I made a rule such that
[27-Sep-2007 22:23:38] <slimmpete> trapsink monitor public
[27-Sep-2007 22:23:48] <slimmpete> trapcommunity public
[27-Sep-2007 22:23:56] <slimmpete> disk / 99%
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:13] <slimmpete> hahaha it should be sending traps like crazy
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:29] <slimmpete> but not a single trap
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:40] <slimmpete> I have both a snmpd.local.conf
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:45] <slimmpete> and snmp.conf
[27-Sep-2007 22:27:26] <MoreDakka_> well hmmm....I hope you didn't listen to anything I had to say about snmp....as I don't know much about that cause I was thinking of syslog vs syslog-ng haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:32:19] <slimmpete> Sep 27 18:21:36 int01 kernel: audit(1190931696.900:12213): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4596 comm="snmpd" name="/" dev=sda1 ino=2 scontext=root:system_r:snmpd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:boot_t tclass=dir
[27-Sep-2007 22:38:52] <slimmpete> Okay I give up
[27-Sep-2007 22:38:55] <slimmpete> Take care guys
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[28-Sep-2007 08:38:51] <Freak> what do I set as DataPoints for a nagios check_disk Data Source?
[28-Sep-2007 08:39:04] <Freak> I mean.. I can't set / as the name of a data point
[28-Sep-2007 09:27:40] <oddjobz> Helloo, can anyone tell me how to add devices to the Google map on Beta 2.1 ?
[28-Sep-2007 10:02:19] <indigo423> gratulations to beta 2.1 really nice features added.
[28-Sep-2007 10:42:05] <petemc> im trying out the vmware image, the login credentials as per the faq dont work, can i reset that from the console?
[28-Sep-2007 10:49:12] <petemc> nm
[28-Sep-2007 11:09:06] <Freak> I compiled zenoss from the trunk directory, isnt that the latest development? because it still says it was 2.0.6
[28-Sep-2007 11:10:15] <Freak> or isnt that being updated when I keep the database?
[28-Sep-2007 11:55:09] <indigo423> hi at if try to discover a network, i got the following error: Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor"
[28-Sep-2007 12:00:38] <oddjobz> Anyone know anything about how the network diagram chooses what to display ?
[28-Sep-2007 12:41:53] <Freak> darn. I'm trying to install trunk, but installing the database keeps failing no matter what I try
[28-Sep-2007 12:49:06] <Freak> ah finally. it seems the problem is that I try to install to /u/l/zenoss from /u/tmp/trunk/inst
[28-Sep-2007 12:49:27] <Freak> but the installation seems to have put everything under /u/tmp/trunk/
[28-Sep-2007 12:53:58] <onicrom> morning gents
[28-Sep-2007 13:29:34] <Freak> "On the Status tab of every location is an "Address" row, with an "Edit" link beside it." -- I dont see it.
[28-Sep-2007 13:30:19] <Freak> and it still tells me its version number was 2.0.6
[28-Sep-2007 13:30:27] <Freak> I even flushed my database by now
[28-Sep-2007 13:30:39] <Freak> I dont get it .. *sigh*
[28-Sep-2007 14:00:54] <nws> so, what good does the data migration do when it gets rid of all the configs and all historical data?
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:19] <Merciless>
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:19] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:21] <Merciless> grrr
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:25] <Merciless> when monitoring any windows server
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:28] <Merciless> any idea how to disable that?
[28-Sep-2007 14:16:11] <MoreDakka_> haha...nws, you haven't ripped your hair out yet?
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:31] <nws> no, the upgrade is done
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:36] <nws> im just tired of this crap
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:42] <nws> this is why i run nagios
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:57] <nws> but we use zenoss for other things
[28-Sep-2007 14:33:50] <Merciless> Zenoss Zenoss 2.0.91 r6790
[28-Sep-2007 14:33:54] <Merciless> how do i upgrade to 2.1
[28-Sep-2007 14:34:44] <nws> 2.1 isn't out
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:02] <nws> just the pre 2.1 stuff
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:06] <Merciless> oops mis-read email
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:13] <nws> and for whatever reason, they call it 2.1
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:14] <onicrom> im jsut trying to get the vmware version going
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:16] <MoreDakka_> nws did you get the import done?
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:26] <nws> yea, the import finished
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:32] <MoreDakka_> how'd you get it working?
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:40] <nws> but now i feel like i need to read the scripts to see what was imported
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:55] <MoreDakka_> How many devices?
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:56] <nws> cause it wasnt any of the configs or data
[28-Sep-2007 14:36:03] <nws> less than 100
[28-Sep-2007 14:36:08] <nws> but still
[28-Sep-2007 14:36:40] <MoreDakka_> What was broken in the script that was stopping your import yesterday?
[28-Sep-2007 14:37:12] <nws> not much
[28-Sep-2007 14:37:26] <nws> but it was in both the build-funtions and install.sh
[28-Sep-2007 14:37:53] <nws> the build-functions should prompt for mysql usernames and passwords
[28-Sep-2007 14:38:36] <nws> and the install.sh should be tarring the backup to a separate directory, like /tmp
[28-Sep-2007 14:39:04] <nws> i should go through their scripts and do a diff and send them the patches
[28-Sep-2007 14:41:18] <MoreDakka_> haha
[28-Sep-2007 14:49:31] <Merciless> by default zenoss uses ping to tell whether a server is up or down.. ive told zenoss to ignore ping, but im still getting an event saying its down even though its not (just doesnt accept ping)
[28-Sep-2007 14:49:44] <Merciless> how do I stop events for ping being down on that server only, and use a MIB instead
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:16] <nws> 'ignore ping'?
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:18] <MoreDakka_> If you have told it to ignore ping then it will ignore it. For some reason it can take a bunch of cycles to be able to ignore it...not sure why.
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:33] <nws> ah
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:49] <MoreDakka_> nwa == "The Master of the Obvious"
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:51] <MoreDakka_> ;-)
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:56] <MoreDakka_> nws even
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:01] <nws> psh
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:10] <nws> thats what i like about check_dummy
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[28-Sep-2007 14:51:21] <MoreDakka> check_dummy?
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:29] <nws> its a nagios plugin
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:36] <MoreDakka> nagios plugin? hehe...what does it do?
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:57] <nws> its a dummy check, it just shows "UP"
[28-Sep-2007 14:52:41] <MoreDakka> In some aspects Nagios is much better than Zenoss...it the aspect of Pretty, Zenoss takes that quite easily.
[28-Sep-2007 14:52:51] <nws> that way you can have service or host checks run and it will never show down
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:09] <nws> MoreDakka: nagios is being rewritten at the moment
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:15] <nws> 3.0 will be out soon
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:33] <nws> AND the interface will hopefully be rewritten in php
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:38] <MoreDakka> I like that 3d network map. that's fun
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:52] <nws> vrml is so old and useless
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:08] <nws> its really obsolete
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:19] <nws> but the 2d map is great
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:19] <MoreDakka> I've never even used vml before.
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:38] <nws> vrml is how the 3d map is generated
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:50] <MoreDakka> ahhh.
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:57] <nws> the 2d map is generated based on "parents" in the host configs
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:02] <MoreDakka> I see Nagios v3.04b...I'm assuming the b is beta
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:07] <nws> yep
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:10] <MoreDakka> bah
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:36] <MoreDakka> maybe I'll give it a shot today and see what it looks like and see if we should reconsider that...my boss likes Zenoss though.
[28-Sep-2007 14:56:16] <MoreDakka> This google maps addon is quite nice since we have soo many oil field sites that are out in the middle of no where and sometimes need to know where it is...
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:07] <oddjobz> Hi, Can anyone tell me how to use the HTTP zenpack now I have it installed?
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:21] <nws> my boss likes zenoss too
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:28] <nws> but nagios is still the bomb
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:50] <nws> however, there is a learning curve on the configs
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:59] <oddjobz> Curve?
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:06] <oddjobz> Vertical Cliff maybe ...
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:29] <nws> oddjobz: i take it you gave up on nagios because of that?
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:41] <oddjobz> Nope , we ran it for a while ...
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:46] <nws> and?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:08] <oddjobz> It just became to much of a problem when upgrades made the configs incompatible between versions ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:10] <MoreDakka> haha
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:32] <nws> configs became incompatible between versions?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:36] <nws> what?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:37] <oddjobz> It takes soooooo long to configure Nagios, once it's "right", you just want to leave it alone ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:40] <nws> what versions?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:43] <oddjobz> Yup ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:50] <oddjobz> Dunno, this was 12 months ago now ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:55] <nws> psh
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:01] <oddjobz> We had to upgrade to keep track with Ubuntu ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:13] <nws> lol@ubuntu
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:17] <oddjobz> Configus went to pot after the upgrade ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:31] <nws> were they overwritten?
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:36] <nws> did you not back them up?
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:39] <oddjobz> Anyway, I just installed 2.1b from scratch and added 10 hosts in under an hour ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:49] <oddjobz> THEY DID NOT WORK!
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:55] <nws> arite
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:57] <nws> simma down
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:59] <MoreDakka> In zenoss or nagios?
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:08] <oddjobz> This is nagios
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:23] <oddjobz> Which is why I'm trying zenoss
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:46] <oddjobz> Oh, did I mention the UI/configuration on nagios is rubbish ?
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:57] <oddjobz> And Zenoss is excellent ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:57] <nws> ha ha
[28-Sep-2007 15:02:03] <oddjobz> Well
[28-Sep-2007 15:02:21] <oddjobz> It would be if I could figure out how some of this new 2.1b stuff was actually supposed to work ...
[28-Sep-2007 15:02:28] <Merciless> anyone know why a routing table on a freebsd box would have the whole of the internet in it as cloned static routes? :s
[28-Sep-2007 15:03:08] <oddjobz> Because you are running a badly configured BGP4 router? zebra or similar?
[28-Sep-2007 15:03:27] <oddjobz> Anyone know how to use a Zenpak?
[28-Sep-2007 15:04:28] <oddjobz> Mmm, thought as much ...
[28-Sep-2007 15:07:35] <Merciless> oddjobz -- no routing protocol on the device
[28-Sep-2007 15:16:51] <progma> < oddjobz> Vertical Cliff maybe ... <-- hahaha
[28-Sep-2007 15:17:14] <nws> grab your pitons and lets go
[28-Sep-2007 15:20:00] <monrad> anyone knows if its possible to "decompile" binary mib files?
[28-Sep-2007 15:24:10] <oddjobz> Merciless, if you have a huge route table, it can really only be a routing daemon .. are you running ospf?
[28-Sep-2007 15:29:31] <Merciless> na no routing protocols at all
[28-Sep-2007 15:29:35] <Merciless> just one static route entered for a default route
[28-Sep-2007 15:29:49] <Merciless> im confused as hell.. never seen it before
[28-Sep-2007 15:30:06] <Merciless> maybe a trojan im thinking :/
[28-Sep-2007 15:30:17] <oddjobz> What do you get with netstat -rn | wc -l ?
[28-Sep-2007 15:39:40] <Merciless> fw[admin]# netstat -rn | wc -l
[28-Sep-2007 15:39:40] <Merciless> 393946
[28-Sep-2007 15:39:40] <Merciless> fw[admin]# fw[admin]#
[28-Sep-2007 15:59:51] <MoreDakka> Oooo fun. Just did a fresh install (via rpm) of 2.0.91 and first thing I did was click on Locations and it puked errors all over me....gross.
[28-Sep-2007 16:36:03] <progma> MoreDakka: from what version
[28-Sep-2007 16:36:31] <MoreDakka> fresh
[28-Sep-2007 16:38:44] <progma> oh duh
[28-Sep-2007 16:38:56] <progma> well i guess i'm not upgrading to that then
[28-Sep-2007 16:43:41] <MoreDakka> Other people are having luck with the install though.
[28-Sep-2007 16:44:47] <MoreDakka> I had 2.0.90 going for a bit until I tried to import data from our production box then I borked that install pretty bad. i can't get zen2load.py working properly...it breaks zenoss every time.
[28-Sep-2007 17:24:26] <MoreDakka> Anyone know where I can get MySQL client & server standard 5.0.26? The dependencies file on the Zenoss site contain 5.0.24a and the 'a' is breaking the 2.0.91 beta software...
[28-Sep-2007 17:27:44] <Trojaneyez> I'm in /Networks and am wanting to add some 10.0.0.0/21 and other various /21 networks but it's putting them as /24 is there a way around this?
[28-Sep-2007 17:28:34] <davetoo> Zenoss seems to want to add the networks there by itself, as part of the router-discovery process.
[28-Sep-2007 17:28:58] <Trojaneyez> davetoo that is what i was thinking, but I wasn't sure how it's "Network Discovery" Truly worked
[28-Sep-2007 17:29:02] <davetoo> My current procedure for a new system is to run "zendisc run --routers" as the first step after the install.
[28-Sep-2007 17:29:21] <davetoo> well, you have to have snmpd running correctly on the local machine first, for it to pull a route map.
[28-Sep-2007 17:29:47] <davetoo> Then it searches outward for all the routers for which it has valid snmp credentials.
[28-Sep-2007 17:30:08] <Trojaneyez> hmm
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:19] <progma> MoreDakka: i had to use this repo for rhel4: http://remi.collet.free.fr/index.php?2005/10/02/8-telechargement-installation-et-yum
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Téléchargement, installation, YUM, APT et SMART - Les RPM de Remi (at remi.collet.free.fr)
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:45] <progma> MoreDakka: i still had to install by ignoring deps though
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:48] <davetoo> yes, yes, yes... stupid bot
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:08] <progma> MoreDakka: as i have a number of other deps like php-pdo that just wouldn't cooperate
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:21] <progma> that's good though
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:24] <MoreDakka> I'm going to see if 2.0.90 has the same issue...I don't think it does.
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:26] <progma> the url verify
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:46] <Trojaneyez> leave #nagios
[28-Sep-2007 17:36:46] <davetoo> behind
[28-Sep-2007 17:36:48] <davetoo>
[28-Sep-2007 17:46:57] <MoreDakka> Well looks like they introduced some problems going frmo 2.0.90 -> 2.0.91
[28-Sep-2007 17:47:12] <MoreDakka> mysql 24a doesn't work on 2.0.91 but works no problem in 2.0.90
[28-Sep-2007 17:55:09] <MoreDakka> Bah, working with the beta is quite frustrating. zentrap, actions, syslog and ping deamons won't start up...
[28-Sep-2007 17:55:22] <MoreDakka> and zenmodeler is all broken.
[28-Sep-2007 17:59:07] <pablo26> hi all
[28-Sep-2007 18:02:21] <pablo26> can i create a template for a group?
[28-Sep-2007 18:03:32] <pablo26> or template are just for devices?
[28-Sep-2007 18:24:30] <Dan000892> i don't see a Template tab for groups or subgroups, so I'd guess no
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[28-Sep-2007 18:32:04] <davetoo> No ... when I mentioned it months ago, EAD said that he was thinking about how to do that,
[28-Sep-2007 18:32:26] <davetoo> but all we've got so far is the ability to mix-in additional Device templates.
[28-Sep-2007 18:55:57] <exothermc> is there a view that shows what are the current errors or warnings?
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:05] <exothermc> Like say a service goes down and throws a warning but then comes back up. A view that wouldn't show that, but would show all services that are still currently down.
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:31] <davetoo> "Events"
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:36] <davetoo> vs. "History"
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:40] <exothermc> Just really nice with other monitoring systems we have used in the past to have a view that says "what is broken now"
[28-Sep-2007 18:58:05] <exothermc> But isn't the flapped service still listed in events even when it comes back up?
[28-Sep-2007 18:58:14] <exothermc> as an event which failed.
[28-Sep-2007 18:59:02] <davetoo> When the failed condition is cleared, and the poller gets around to it again, the event will be cleared
[28-Sep-2007 18:59:17] <davetoo> in the History you'll see the "clear"-priority event that cleared it.
[28-Sep-2007 19:00:08] <exothermc> ahh ic
[28-Sep-2007 19:10:54] <exothermc> How long does it take for the poller to refresh?
[28-Sep-2007 19:11:05] <exothermc> I'm only monitoring 1 host right now
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[28-Sep-2007 19:40:02] <pablo26> i'm getting some error with windows servers ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[28-Sep-2007 19:40:04] <pablo26> any idea?
[28-Sep-2007 19:41:36] <pablo26> i can see all the info i need even the performance graphs
[28-Sep-2007 19:44:19] <Dan000892> pablo: are you trying to wmi? do you have zproperties configured with user&pass?
[28-Sep-2007 19:45:07] <pablo26> mmm is wmi by default?
[28-Sep-2007 19:45:43] <Dan000892> no it should have wmiIgnore on by default
[28-Sep-2007 19:46:01] <Dan000892> perhaps another question is in order
[28-Sep-2007 19:46:05] <Dan000892> are you still getting this error?
[28-Sep-2007 19:46:12] <Dan000892> or was it a one-time event?
[28-Sep-2007 19:47:03] <pablo26> mmm zWmiMonitorIgnore is set to false
[28-Sep-2007 19:47:08] <pablo26> and i dindt change that
[28-Sep-2007 19:47:45] <pablo26> what advantages do i have enabling wmi?
[28-Sep-2007 19:48:24] <Dan000892> more info... i haven't really looked into it because we're setting up monitoring for remote systems as well and we don't want RPC open outside to support WMI pulls
[28-Sep-2007 19:48:55] <Dan000892> WMI does a lot... service states, running processes just to start
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:07] <pablo26> i'll give it a try
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:08] <Dan000892> but as I said, I don't know what Zenoss can pull
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:39] <Dan000892> and we don't feel comfortable running "netsh firewall set service RemoteAdmin enable" on the remote windows boxen
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:50] <Dan000892> this line should give even the greenest sysadmin pause
[28-Sep-2007 19:51:47] <pablo26> i'll try it on the dev servers if i get intresting info i see what i can do
[28-Sep-2007 20:10:50] <eurowerke> why doesn't zenperfxmlrpc start when you run zenoss start
[28-Sep-2007 20:10:51] <eurowerke> ?
[28-Sep-2007 20:10:53] <eurowerke> anyone know?
[28-Sep-2007 20:14:30] <explody> Zenoss doesn't support any database other than mysql, right?
[28-Sep-2007 20:16:48] <b52laptop> explody, if you submit a patch that make zenoss work with postgresql please tell me
[28-Sep-2007 20:17:03] <b52laptop> explody, no by default zenoss use mysql
[28-Sep-2007 20:17:15] <explody> yeah I might have to do that
[28-Sep-2007 20:17:43] <explody> I haven't looked at the schema yet really though, any idea if it's actually using mysql-specific features?
[28-Sep-2007 20:18:18] <b52laptop> no sorry ,
[28-Sep-2007 20:21:31] <Lorax> oh great, a zenoss community here too.
[28-Sep-2007 20:29:26] <pablo26> bye guys see u on monday
[28-Sep-2007 21:45:13] <mutil8> i just installed Zenoss and when i try to run the network discovery i get "Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor"
[28-Sep-2007 21:46:37] <mutil8> anybody familiar with that error?
[28-Sep-2007 21:49:03] <MoreDakka> heh, what is the command to run network discovery? Didn't know that could be done manually.
[28-Sep-2007 21:49:14] <MoreDakka> can't help you with your error though:(
[28-Sep-2007 21:50:37] <mutil8> on the web interface it's an option under networks
[28-Sep-2007 21:51:07] <mutil8> /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net <network>
[28-Sep-2007 21:51:11] <mutil8> that's the command it runs
[28-Sep-2007 21:52:42] <MoreDakka> Thanks, I'll give that a try when I get something other than 2.1 beta that isn't working on my server.
[28-Sep-2007 21:53:04] <mutil8> i'm also unable to add a device
[28-Sep-2007 21:53:09] <mutil8> if i try to do it manually
[28-Sep-2007 21:53:18] <mutil8> doesn't give me an error, but the device never shows up in the device listings
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:11] <MoreDakka> Yeesh, sorry I can't help you, I only know v1.1.1 and a bit of 2.1beta.
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:26] <mutil8> ah
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:29] <mutil8> ok, no worries
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:37] <mutil8> think i should try the 1.x branch?
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:50] <MoreDakka> naw, try to learn the 2.x branch.
[28-Sep-2007 21:55:01] <MoreDakka> there are quite a few enhancements with 2.x
[28-Sep-2007 21:55:12] <MoreDakka> Are you on 2.0.6?
[28-Sep-2007 21:55:21] <MoreDakka> (think that's the latest release)
[28-Sep-2007 22:05:54] <explody> hm. I don't see any kind of mysql-specific anything in the schema zenoss uses
[28-Sep-2007 22:06:22] <explody> the schema would take like 5 minutes to port to pgsql
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:04] <b52laptop> hm
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:12] <explody> don't get happy
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:26] <b52laptop>
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:30] <explody> mysql method names and things like that are embedded all over
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:45] <b52laptop> grr
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:58] <davetoo> store procedures/triggers too, no?
[28-Sep-2007 22:14:09] * davetoo doesn't really know anything about stored procedures/triggers, though.
[28-Sep-2007 22:14:12] <explody> it's all in Products/ZenEvents/ as far as I can see
[28-Sep-2007 22:14:27] <explody> I don't see any triggers or stored procedures
[28-Sep-2007 22:15:36] <explody> but the schema is the least of the trouble if there is no abstraction of the underlying DB
[28-Sep-2007 22:15:44] <explody> oh well, nice thought anyway
[28-Sep-2007 22:16:51] <davetoo> don't look complicated, but see .../ZenEvents/db/zenprocs.sql
[28-Sep-2007 22:23:19] <exothermc> When setting up zenoss to do auto discovery using snmp is there something that can be set out on the snmp server which will help link the device to a specific device class?
[28-Sep-2007 22:36:30] <davetoo> exothermc: unfortunately, not that I'm aware of.
[28-Sep-2007 22:36:49] <exothermc> hmm you would think this would be pretty basic.
[28-Sep-2007 22:37:12] <exothermc> How does the modeler determine if it is a router/printer/server etc.
[28-Sep-2007 22:41:44] <davetoo> It doesn't.
[28-Sep-2007 22:41:55] <davetoo> Everything ends up in /Discovered.
[28-Sep-2007 22:42:15] <davetoo> That's why I ended up writing an external Perl app to scan and probe our systems.
[28-Sep-2007 22:42:42] <davetoo> I saw some stub code in the source
[28-Sep-2007 22:43:02] <davetoo> something that looked like they were working on some kind of auto-classification a long time ago
[28-Sep-2007 22:48:10] <exothermc> well it does on some level so that isn't correct.
[28-Sep-2007 22:48:17] <exothermc> from the manual: "Routers discovered through this process will be placed in the device path /Network/Router."
[28-Sep-2007 22:54:17] <davetoo> AFAIK that's only with the --routers switch.
[28-Sep-2007 23:02:31] <eurowerke> anyone know a way to change sorting on the OS tab for say, a switch?
[28-Sep-2007 23:02:59] <eurowerke> so it will number ports sequentially instead of ascii (?) order?
[28-Sep-2007 23:03:23] <eurowerke> 1, 10, 11, 12 -> 1, 2, 3, 4....
[28-Sep-2007 23:04:41] <davetoo> I wish
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[30-Sep-2007 03:09:07] <JordanWilliams> anyone around that could give me a few pointers?
[30-Sep-2007 03:09:28] <JordanWilliams> i've got my zenoss system up and running.... i've added a few devices, and even added some IPServices to them...
[30-Sep-2007 03:09:49] <JordanWilliams> however, the monitoring of those services are always showing green status
[30-Sep-2007 03:10:23] <JordanWilliams> i've added obscure services that the systems wouldn't respond to in a million years, but the status is still green.
[30-Sep-2007 03:10:29] <JordanWilliams> is there something i'm missing?
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[01-Sep-2007 08:05:09] <shoufa> hi, am new to zenoss and SNMP, i need to monitor CPU temperature
[01-Sep-2007 08:05:55] <shoufa> i found some tutorials like: http://webaj.com/how-setup-environmental-monitor-zenoss-1-1-2-and-centos-5-0.htm but it all talks about MIBs and external devices, i just need to monitor CPU temp for my server...
[01-Sep-2007 08:06:00] <shoufa> any ideas?
[01-Sep-2007 08:27:33] <shoufa> ???
[01-Sep-2007 08:49:34] <shoufa> anyone alive here?
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:14] <b52laptop> shoufa, halla shibby :d , one alive but sorry i don't know the answer
, but i think you "should "" try mailling list .... [01-Sep-2007 08:51:21] <b52laptop> ops sorry
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:30] <b52laptop> shoufa, halla :d
[01-Sep-2007 08:52:02] <shoufa> thanks
i will do as you suggested[01-Sep-2007 08:52:32] <b52laptop> your welcome
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[02-Sep-2007 06:51:35] <monrad> bzed: hey
[02-Sep-2007 06:51:47] <monrad> any progress on the debian packages
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:07] <bzed> not yet
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:24] <bzed> also I'm still waiting for the latest dbconfig-common
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:29] <bzed> I'll poke seanius to upload it
[02-Sep-2007 06:54:23] <monrad> i just got my hands on a 64 bit machine
[02-Sep-2007 06:54:33] <monrad> should be fun with the new rrdtool version
[02-Sep-2007 06:56:03] <bzed> ahh
[02-Sep-2007 06:56:20] <bzed> that reminds me that I have to poke the rrdtools maintainer to upload a the new version
[02-Sep-2007 06:57:30] <monrad> i think its still a beta release
[02-Sep-2007 06:57:55] <monrad> but its not that easy to hack into the zenoss build system with all the new dependencies
[02-Sep-2007 06:58:10] <monrad> it would be easy if it was native debian packages
[02-Sep-2007 06:58:25] <monrad> i could make a new rrdtools packages myself then
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:30] <bzed> no, 1.2.13 is stable
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:33] <bzed> err 1.2.23
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:37] <bzed> 1.3 is the beta
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:46] <monrad> yes
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:55] <bzed> and 1.2.19 is in debian
[02-Sep-2007 07:04:09] <bzed> which has some annoying bugs if it comes to large numbers
[02-Sep-2007 07:04:25] <monrad> ah
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:01] <monrad> in the last 24 hours i have not had an snmp poll in under 300 secs :/
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:42] <bzed> oh
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:44] <bzed> hmm
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:45] <bzed> btw
[02-Sep-2007 07:06:05] <bzed> zenoss 2.1 will support google maps to locate your stuff
[02-Sep-2007 07:06:51] <monrad> yeah i look at trac
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:02] <monrad> now i just need an "weather map"
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:14] <monrad> but i guess one should be able to do that on top of that
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:41] <bzed> add that to the bug as suggestion
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:42] <bzed>
[02-Sep-2007 07:08:39] <monrad> but with 1016 pieces of equipment scatter in around 300 locations i think we are going to like the map stuff
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:11] <monrad> hmm i think zenmodelere uses a lot of memory
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:17] <monrad> when it has been running for at long time
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:51] <bzed> probably some memory issues!?
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:03] <bzed> somebody should debug it
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:08] <bzed> anyway
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:14] <bzed> I'm off to work to do some stuff for debian
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:18] <bzed> tty later
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:34] <monrad> see you
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:37] <monrad> have a nice day
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[02-Sep-2007 08:15:24] <bzed> monrad: sooo... dbconfig-common is in unstable
[02-Sep-2007 08:16:31] <monrad>
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:05] <monrad> someone is sending us 16K broadcast packages a second for the last hour
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:14] <monrad> time for a zenoss threshold
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:44] <bzed> hehe
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[02-Sep-2007 14:19:16] <monrad> are there problems with zenoss on 64 bit?
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[02-Sep-2007 14:30:23] <monrad> ERROR netsnmp: truncating unsigned value to 32 bits <- i get alot of those
[02-Sep-2007 15:00:25] <DaveToo> I haven't figured those out yet
[02-Sep-2007 15:38:53] <monrad> hmm
[02-Sep-2007 15:39:56] <DaveToo> I'm trying to figure out why zenperfsnmp keeps hanging up on one of my systems,
[02-Sep-2007 15:40:02] <DaveToo> my biggest server
[02-Sep-2007 16:19:04] <monrad> i have only had performance problems with zenperfsnmp
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[02-Sep-2007 17:30:16] <Amr_not_Amr> hello .. how can I monitor mysql and Ipservice?
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[02-Sep-2007 18:11:51] <bzed> monrad: hmm, no clue about the 64bit stuff, I'd ask cluther when he's around here again
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[03-Sep-2007 12:32:20] <oubiwann> testing...
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[03-Sep-2007 13:02:20] <oubiwann> excellent... new logger's working as expected
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[04-Sep-2007 11:51:57] <PJ_fun> anyone knows what is the default password to get into Zenoss VMware
[04-Sep-2007 11:52:45] <PJ_fun> wat is the login to use to get into the management console?
[04-Sep-2007 11:53:19] <PJ_fun> anyone there?
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[04-Sep-2007 17:02:35] <hspcd> Does anyone here have an opinion/experience on the upgrade from 2.0.3 to 2.0.4? I read some forum posts that seemed to point to some issues where some bugs were fixed and still others were introduced.
[04-Sep-2007 17:56:23] <rlount> Hi all.
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[04-Sep-2007 19:50:30] <nrunge> What causes a bad OID?
[04-Sep-2007 19:50:39] <nrunge> I cannot display any performance monitoring.
[04-Sep-2007 20:56:42] <hspcd> Does anyone know of a way to have Zenoss pull content from a site (i.e. images, javascript, etc.) and calculate response times (i.e. full page load times)? I have a basic response time query right now that generates graphs but the response times are not realistic since it's only measuring how fast the server response to a basic http get request.
[04-Sep-2007 20:58:15] <davetoo> Write a wrapper around a wget that spits out nagios plugin-format results?
[04-Sep-2007 20:58:25] <davetoo> send the wget output to /dev/null
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[05-Sep-2007 00:40:07] <Boingo> Hello everyone. Is there a way to bind zenoss, the web part, and the monitoring parts (zneping,zendisc,etc) all to one IP?
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[05-Sep-2007 14:01:46] <Bulwinkle> seems like things have been really quiet around here lately.
[05-Sep-2007 14:03:03] <Bulwinkle> is anyone around looking at other OSS Network Monitoring systems (besides ZenOSS)?
[05-Sep-2007 14:23:22] <creiht> Bulwinkle: There is no other NMS besides ZenOSS
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:02] <Bulwinkle> creiht: If that were only the case.... They'd be justified with the price tag they are asking from me....
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:08] <creiht> hehe
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:08] <creiht> ahh
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:16] <Bulwinkle> especially since it keeps crashing
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:38] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Well if you want alternatives, the other good one in my book is OpenNMS
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:46] <creiht> A bit more difficult to set up and configure
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:52] <creiht> But scales very nicely
[05-Sep-2007 14:25:17] <creiht> It also doesn't have as sexy of a UI
[05-Sep-2007 14:25:51] <MoreDakka_> anyone alive this morning?
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:06] <MoreDakka_> Ooo....maybe I should refresh my chat window...hehe
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:07] <creiht> Yes... but off to a meeting... bbl
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:35] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle, you here?
[05-Sep-2007 14:27:32] <Bulwinkle> Yes
[05-Sep-2007 14:28:13] <MoreDakka_> Do you know if any of the versions of Zenoss can report on a per-port basis for a swtich (alert if a port goes down without using traps)?
[05-Sep-2007 14:28:55] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: you can set that up using the Nagios stuff
[05-Sep-2007 14:32:14] <MoreDakka_> Cool. I'll look into that. Do you know when 2.1 is comin' out and if dependencies are going to be included?
[05-Sep-2007 14:32:18] <MoreDakka_> I can't wait for that feature.
[05-Sep-2007 14:34:55] <Bulwinkle> I'm looking to jump ship as it so.... If I can find something better you won't be seeing me around here any longer
[05-Sep-2007 14:35:23] <MoreDakka_> What are you looking into? Zenoss is pretty full featured.
[05-Sep-2007 14:36:28] <Bulwinkle> Has lots of features but I'm not going to pay $40000 to get someone who can help me every time it blows up....
[05-Sep-2007 14:38:18] <MoreDakka_> 40k....wow. that is quite the premium. This isn't the only monitoring software out there. How many devices do you have?
[05-Sep-2007 14:38:44] <MoreDakka_> Weren't you looking at working with the Zenoss team at one point? Can't remember if that was you or someone else.
[05-Sep-2007 14:39:51] <Bulwinkle> That was me... they are basically asking for $100/device for support... we have 400 devices so..
[05-Sep-2007 14:40:23] <MoreDakka_> 100/device...that's a little retarded.
[05-Sep-2007 14:40:35] <MoreDakka_> I could see $10/device...maybe
[05-Sep-2007 14:47:48] <MoreDakka_> SolarWinds has a nice product, my boss has tried it out but he wants to stay with Open Source for now cause of the cost. I don't think it'll be $40k though.
[05-Sep-2007 14:56:40] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: yeah, the solarwinds orion solution is pretty sweet. We are Ciscocentric here so the NetFlow stuff is pretty cool.
[05-Sep-2007 14:57:56] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: did you get to look at that Nagios stuff? You can do quite a bit with it. The best way to do it is though traps though.
[05-Sep-2007 15:01:07] <MoreDakka_> I couldn't find the command that I can use for that. I've got a nagios plugin running, the check-http plugin which is pretty sweet.
[05-Sep-2007 15:01:35] <MoreDakka_> So I have an idea on how to use it, just need the plugin name.
[05-Sep-2007 15:11:42] <Boingo> Is it true that WMI monitoring is only available on the Enterprise version?
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:28] <Boingo> The last post in this thread seems to indicate so:
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:29] <Boingo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3076&highlight=zenwin+setup
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How To Install ZenWin on my XP environment (at community.zenoss.com)
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[05-Sep-2007 16:01:50] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: what are you trying to monitor with WMI?
[05-Sep-2007 16:02:19] <Boingo> Performance metrics.
[05-Sep-2007 16:02:25] <Boingo> Services.
[05-Sep-2007 16:03:03] <Boingo> Processes.
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:11] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: I currently monitor Services with WMI, I monitor Performance metrics differently
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:23] <Bulwinkle> Depending on the performance metric
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:31] <Boingo> Does it work on core? Or only Enterprise?
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[05-Sep-2007 17:02:48] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: I'm running core
[05-Sep-2007 17:03:57] <Boingo> So the guy in that thread was incorrect?
[05-Sep-2007 17:05:01] <Boingo> And, if so, do you have more documentation on how to setup zenwin, the docs that came with it aren't very clear.
[05-Sep-2007 17:15:46] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: do you have your devices added?
[05-Sep-2007 17:15:56] <Boingo> Yes.
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:19] <Bulwinkle> so they should be in a group like /severs/windows?
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:33] <Boingo> Yes, they are. When I run the test of zenwin from the command line on the device I get errors.
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:41] <deviousz> helllo
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:43] <Boingo> Even before I set it up as a service.
[05-Sep-2007 17:17:41] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: have you put anything in your zProperties under zWinUser and zWinPassword?
[05-Sep-2007 17:17:45] <Bulwinkle> hi deviousz
[05-Sep-2007 17:18:52] <Boingo> Is that which username/password it is expecting?
[05-Sep-2007 17:19:04] <deviousz> I just set up Zenoss, this is amazing
[05-Sep-2007 17:19:49] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: yes...
[05-Sep-2007 17:20:05] <Boingo> See... the docs didnt mention that.
[05-Sep-2007 17:20:16] <Boingo> I thought it was looking for a zenoss user.
[05-Sep-2007 17:21:03] <deviousz> I gave OpenNMS a try a short time ago, this is WAY easier to install
[05-Sep-2007 17:21:38] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle, I'm still having some issues trying to find the nagios plugin for the port monitoring we discussed earlier. Do you know what nagios command I can use?
[05-Sep-2007 17:22:52] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: where are your nagios scripts now?
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:04] <deviousz> Well, nice work!
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:11] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: yeah, the docs on that can be a bit lacking
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:41] <MoreDakka_> I just have the check_http plug in right now. Not even sure where to start for the port monitoring.
[05-Sep-2007 17:24:32] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: check the check_ifstatus and check_ifoperstatus
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:42] <MoreDakka_> sweet, I'm looking now. Thanks Bulwinkle!
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:47] <deviousz> So I've searched for this but haven't come up with anything, hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm looking to monitor HTTP & HTTPS URL's. I have installed HttpMonitor zenpack but not sure where to go from here.
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:49] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: NP
[05-Sep-2007 17:30:11] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: you can add the HTTP graphs to all of your servers you want to monitor HTTP on
[05-Sep-2007 17:31:50] <deviousz> So I can just add the server like I do with anything else? via devices?
[05-Sep-2007 17:33:39] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: yes
[05-Sep-2007 17:33:54] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: and after you do you can add the HTTP stuff in OS
[05-Sep-2007 17:36:16] <deviousz> Ok thx, doing that now
[05-Sep-2007 17:38:16] <deviousz> So, add an Interface?
[05-Sep-2007 17:50:38] <deviousz> Seems like I need to add an 'IP Service'?
[05-Sep-2007 17:51:10] <deviousz> What if I want to monitor multiple sites on a single IP?
[05-Sep-2007 18:07:53] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: aren't they all served by the same web server?
[05-Sep-2007 18:10:04] <deviousz> In this case yes. Its more of a theoretical question, like in the case where redundancy is provided by DNS, where there may be a few different IPs serving the same site w /the same URL
[05-Sep-2007 18:11:24] <deviousz> So thats how to do it right, add an IP service? Or add something else having to do w/ the HttpMonitor?
[05-Sep-2007 18:32:57] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: do you hav the server added?
[05-Sep-2007 18:52:58] <deviousz> yep
[05-Sep-2007 18:55:42] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: I'd suggest you add all of the webservers in to the same group and copy the servertype template to that group and edit it
[05-Sep-2007 19:15:39] <deviousz> Bulwinkle: should I create a new template?
[05-Sep-2007 19:15:50] <deviousz> (sorry if these are ignorant questions)
[05-Sep-2007 19:16:25] <Bulwinkle> I'd copy the base template from the type of server you're running your webserver (copy the /device/server/windows/device template if they are windows)
[05-Sep-2007 19:16:35] <Bulwinkle> copy that to the new group you create
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[06-Sep-2007 04:30:03] <jerojasro> Hi all. I'm testing zenoss, and checking what can it do. I've installed Net-SNMP on a linux box, and I'm getting info for stuff like the network interfaces usage, system version and the like
[06-Sep-2007 04:30:26] <jerojasro> but I'm not seeing any info. about CPU consumption, system load, disk space or similar stuffs
[06-Sep-2007 04:31:04] <jerojasro> the SNMP server on the linux box has been up since, say, 12 hours or more
[06-Sep-2007 04:31:36] <jerojasro> am I missing some config. stuff? on the zenoss installation? on the SNMP server?
[06-Sep-2007 04:32:04] <jerojasro> thanks in advance for your help
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[06-Sep-2007 12:00:29] <kippi> hey
[06-Sep-2007 12:00:59] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 13:11:38] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 13:34:51] <pablo26> hi all
[06-Sep-2007 13:36:15] <pablo26> i want to create groups of users, for example i create an alerting rule and i want it to be apliead to more than one peple, is that possible?
[06-Sep-2007 13:54:39] <BrianJones> I have a question about setting up APC devices
[06-Sep-2007 13:56:52] <monrad> BrianJones: i have one of those
[06-Sep-2007 13:57:11] <monrad> bzed: i saw some checkins at cia.vc
[06-Sep-2007 14:01:17] <BrianJones> I have... about 10 and would like to monitor them (temps, power, etc)
[06-Sep-2007 14:01:41] <BrianJones> but it looks like the apc monitoring is pretty limited out of the box.
[06-Sep-2007 14:02:20] <BrianJones> I am looking for any help obtaining the correct MIBs and integrating them into zenoss
[06-Sep-2007 14:03:21] <BrianJones> i have the Enterprise license... .but the IM support doesn' really help me much
[06-Sep-2007 14:03:43] <BrianJones> and email is WAY too slow
[06-Sep-2007 14:04:03] <BrianJones> ..... and I don't like sitting on the phone
[06-Sep-2007 14:08:21] <BrianJones> any help?
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:07] <monrad> hmm i only had one i for now the default template is good enough for our use
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:22] <BrianJones> there is a default template?
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:43] <BrianJones> all I get when I add the device is... device name, version, and address
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:02] <BrianJones> no information about the operating specs
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:08] <monrad> you have to move the device to the right place in the device tree
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:26] <BrianJones> i would assume that is the "power/apc"
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:36] <monrad> yes
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:56] <BrianJones> or... power/ups/apc
[06-Sep-2007 14:12:05] <BrianJones> yeah... thats where it is
[06-Sep-2007 14:12:59] <BrianJones> what selection should i use for the hardware manuf/product in the add device
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:10] <BrianJones> all it lists for apc is 3 oid's
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:27] <BrianJones> .. .or 4 oid's
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:53] <BrianJones> ending in .10, .12, .13, .7
[06-Sep-2007 14:16:36] <BrianJones> we have 5 rack PDU's... 1 20KvA battery unit, 1 enviro monitor, and the intrustructure manager
[06-Sep-2007 14:16:58] <BrianJones> and 2 more PDU's coming
[06-Sep-2007 14:18:00] <bzed> monrad: yeah, I've poked the developers about some copyright issues and stated to get the packaging done for zenoss 2.1
[06-Sep-2007 14:18:34] <bzed> zenoss 2.2 will use zope2.10, I'm not 100% sure how we're going to handle a migration, I guess there'll be a manual way to do so
[06-Sep-2007 14:19:32] <BrianJones> what should I be looking for to get the correct MIB's from APC?
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:00] <monrad> i have only played around with an APC ups dont know anything about the other stuff
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:05] <monrad> bzed: nice
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:13] <BrianJones> hmm...
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:22] <monrad> 2.1 is like a few months away hopefuly
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:33] <BrianJones> well.. thanks for the help anyway
[06-Sep-2007 14:22:24] <BrianJones> how come nobody is ever on the IM support?? ... That is what we paid for after all
[06-Sep-2007 14:23:03] <BrianJones> I got help the first week after joined and nothing since
[06-Sep-2007 14:24:11] <monrad> we have not bought any support, yet
[06-Sep-2007 14:24:44] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 14:27:05] <BrianJones> Well... word of advice... make sure you figure out about 50% of the stuff you are trying to monitor before getting support
[06-Sep-2007 14:27:53] <BrianJones> we jumped in support first... and I am still using the free support items to resolve issues
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:25] <BrianJones> because email takes up to 24 hours to respond... and IM is never there
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:27] <monrad> we have a setup with around 1000 units it works pretty ok
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:36] <monrad> only some performance problems
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:49] <BrianJones> what hardware are you running on?
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:19] <BrianJones> i noticed HUGE perf issues running on out solars/ubuntu box
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:39] <monrad> an HP DL380-G3 with 2 3 ghz cpus and 2 gb ram with an SAN as backstorage for the rrd files
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:58] <BrianJones> ... hmm sounds close to ours
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:27] <BrianJones> cept ours is running in a vmware esx enviro
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:42] <BrianJones> ... i would suggest more ram tho
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:54] <monrad> we are think of moving it to a G4 so we have 64 bit cpus
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:58] <monrad> with more ram
[06-Sep-2007 14:31:40] <BrianJones> from what I understand the query data is all cached in ram before writing to disk
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:15] <BrianJones> and if you have less ram than the data polled from devices it will slow down
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:21] <monrad> well rrdtool is quite good to trash the diskcache
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:58] <monrad> in the new, not released, rrdtools they use MMAP to increase performance
[06-Sep-2007 14:33:21] <BrianJones> especially if you are polling 1000 devices... thats a LOT of snmp data
[06-Sep-2007 14:33:56] <BrianJones> cause it polls ALL the snmp query info... then extracts the data it needs
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:17] <monrad> i am pretty sure it just ask for the right OIDs
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:44] <monrad> because an snmpwalk of oure core routers takes longer than 30 mins
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:53] <BrianJones> well.. .four our switches it pulls all the oid info even for null and unused ports
[06-Sep-2007 14:35:51] <BrianJones> and if you are running multiple vlans, etc. i could take even longer
[06-Sep-2007 14:35:55] <BrianJones> it*
[06-Sep-2007 14:36:44] <BrianJones> i believe our server is running 2 quad core xeon's with 32 gb of ram
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:25] <BrianJones> ... oddly enough I am only running the 32bit redhat distro
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:33] <BrianJones> and they are 64bit cpu's
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:47] <monrad> i only have problems when it starts reading from the SAN
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:48] <bzed> try debian when I'm done
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:05] <monrad> bzed: it dont think you get enterprise support with debian
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:20] <BrianJones> ... yeah thats why we bought redhat
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:32] <monrad> if the cache is just right a poll takes around 20 secs
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:39] <monrad> if not around 250-400
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:59] <BrianJones> got any extra ram lying arround?
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:02] <monrad> and its the reads thats kills it
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:18] <BrianJones> you running fiber to the san?
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:31] <monrad> well only to G4's thats one of the reasons to move it one of that kind
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:32] <monrad> yes
[06-Sep-2007 14:40:18] <BrianJones> yeah... our san has yet to cause a problem with over 20 virtual machines
[06-Sep-2007 14:40:39] <BrianJones> including 2 large db servers
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:10] <monrad> if it was be i would prefere to use maybe som coraid boxes with AoE
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:11] <BrianJones> running 2gig fiber to all
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:33] <monrad> quite a bit cheaper than oure HP EVA SAN
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:52] <BrianJones> yeah... ours cost more than the 3 servers
[06-Sep-2007 14:42:12] <BrianJones> but its up to about 10TB now
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:07] <bzed> monrad: I have to talk with them about that, they're all big debian fans, so I guess that could happen
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:43] <monrad> bzed: well right now we think enterprise is a bit too pricy for us
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:56] <monrad> i would rather have they increase my salary
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:01] <BrianJones> for 1000 units... uh, yeah
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:03] <bzed> probably not before 2.2 though, I've thrown a number of tickets to them to get rid of this stupid ZENHOME environment variable
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:07] <bzed> monrad: ^
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:23] <creiht> bzed: You rock!
[06-Sep-2007 14:47:16] <monrad> nice
[06-Sep-2007 16:25:53] <Stuttergar> I'm working with the auto-discovery feature. It would be really great if that process was able to inventory hardware. For instance, CPU clockspeed, RAID controllers, and such.
[06-Sep-2007 16:26:00] <Stuttergar> It doesn't seem to be working out of the box
[06-Sep-2007 16:26:03] <Stuttergar> is there some trick?
[06-Sep-2007 16:44:42] <Stuttergar> ah
[06-Sep-2007 16:44:44] <Stuttergar> nevermind
[06-Sep-2007 16:45:00] <Stuttergar> assigning them to the Server/Linux class kicked things into gear.
[06-Sep-2007 16:45:05] <Stuttergar> I must have overlooked that in the docs.
[06-Sep-2007 17:02:13] <Mazzaradi> anybody there
[06-Sep-2007 17:03:24] <Mazzaradi> CPU utlization is not shown for linux machines
[06-Sep-2007 17:03:30] <Mazzaradi> anybody pls help
[06-Sep-2007 17:07:34] <Mazzaradi> ????? pls pls .... new to zenoss
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[06-Sep-2007 17:32:08] <Mazzaradi> zenoss installed on FC6
[06-Sep-2007 18:05:26] <dextius> hello, looking to switch to zenoss, from nagios... I'd like to use SNMP to monitor important processes, but I can't find out how to alter the polling frequency, is this possible?
[06-Sep-2007 18:14:15] <dextius> is there any documentation available for zenprocess? I can't seem to find anything on any of the wiki's, google, except for some little bits in the forums
[06-Sep-2007 18:41:36] <Bulwinkle> dextius: which frequency are you trying to change?
[06-Sep-2007 18:41:47] <dextius> well.. I'm not sure
[06-Sep-2007 18:42:22] <dextius> in Nagios, we have specific processes we monitor via ssh..
[06-Sep-2007 18:42:59] <dextius> each machine has a load out of what processes will be running that day.. (including what the notification periods and whatnot)
[06-Sep-2007 18:43:34] <Bulwinkle> dextius: what a complete pain in the ass
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:26] <dextius> I agree, but things tend to grow here.. and we have to move things around..
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:30] <dextius> ok..
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:57] <dextius> what if a process fails to start in the morning? Zenoss doesn't seem to have the ability to bind a specific process to a host?
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:06] <Bulwinkle> so, you want to monitor a certain process on a given server for a specific time of day?
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:15] <dextius> yes, and via snmp if possible..
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:27] <Bulwinkle> dextius: I don't think Zenoss can do that
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:42] <dextius> that's what it felt like.
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:45] <dextius> last question..
[06-Sep-2007 18:46:11] <dextius> I keep reading about a Nagios import process for zenoss, but can't find anything concrete, does it exist?
[06-Sep-2007 18:46:51] <Bulwinkle> dextius: I have written my own script, wish I could have found such an import process
[06-Sep-2007 18:47:36] <dextius> heh, yeah, I could probably do the same, if I knew the target ;-) ...
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:22] <dextius> ugh, I'd really like to stop using Nagios, we have SO many processes to watch, and it checks them ONE at a time via ssh.. very painful
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:25] <Bulwinkle> I can give you some help on that....
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:31] <Bulwinkle> one sec
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:09] <dextius> nah, that's ok.. it's basically the configuration I described earlier (specific processes on specific hosts, monitored at specific parts of the day)
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:52] <Bulwinkle> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/add-device/
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:55] <Bulwinkle> Look at that
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Add Device - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:38] <dextius> ooh, I love xmlrpc
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:54] <Bulwinkle> I've got to warn you, as of late IMHO ZenOSS hasn't been very stable from day to day... Its a beautiful thing when it works.
[06-Sep-2007 18:51:30] <dextius> uh oh, can't do that.. working in the financial market.. they get a little annoyed when we're blind..
[06-Sep-2007 18:51:48] <Bulwinkle> Once you get it working, don't touch it and you should be fine... by god of all gods don't upgrade it. Who know what the hell has changed from one release to the next.
[06-Sep-2007 18:52:12] <dextius> haha.. I tried that with Nagios once.. didn't go so well..
[06-Sep-2007 18:52:31] <dextius> ended up just building a new system with the new version, and ported our configuration by hand..
[06-Sep-2007 18:53:07] <Bulwinkle> I've been running Nagios for too many years to count and have never had as much trouble with it as I have with ZenOSS...
[06-Sep-2007 18:54:16] <dextius> yikes! ok, I think you've convinced me to stick with Nagios.. (too bad!)
[06-Sep-2007 19:15:50] <dextius> hey, thanks for your help with this.. I'm glad I got to talk with someone who's used it before I sunk another couple of days fighting with this thing..
[06-Sep-2007 19:58:13] <MoreDakka_> anyone here good at bash scripting/
[06-Sep-2007 20:00:36] <MoreDakka_> Well I'll post it anyways and see if someone can help me out.
[06-Sep-2007 20:02:24] <MoreDakka_> I'm looking to echo a variable into another variable then later in the script send that variable to an email message and to a file but I don't want to write the file while the variable is being created. I've tried echo $VAR1 >>$VAR2 and that gives me "ambiguous redirect ". help?
[06-Sep-2007 20:06:08] <MoreDakka_> I guess it doesn't even have to be variable to variable but ech "foo" >> $VAR1
[06-Sep-2007 20:06:13] <MoreDakka_> echo
[06-Sep-2007 20:14:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: try #BASH
[06-Sep-2007 20:17:35] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, that's where I am now....just thought someone here might have an idea on it (smrt peoples here.)
[06-Sep-2007 20:20:38] <kippi> hey
[06-Sep-2007 20:20:57] <kippi> has anyone got the bandwith graphs working with an netscreen?
[06-Sep-2007 20:22:32] <kgoedtel> why are you trying to echo a variable?
[06-Sep-2007 20:23:00] <kgoedtel> VAR2=$VAR1
[06-Sep-2007 20:44:18] <kippi> how easy is it to install new mibs?
[06-Sep-2007 21:44:27] <kraut75>
[06-Sep-2007 21:44:46] <kraut75> what's the upgrade procedure for an existing "from source" install?
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[06-Sep-2007 22:11:35] <kippi> has anyone got port stats working with an extreme switch?
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[07-Sep-2007 00:18:36] <fiXXXerMet> I am trying to follow http://howtoforge.com/zenoss_network_monitor_ubuntu and need help at step 12.
[07-Sep-2007 00:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing Zenoss Network Monitor on a Ubuntu Server | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials (at howtoforge.com)
[07-Sep-2007 00:18:51] <fiXXXerMet> adduser zenoss doesn't create a home directory, so where do I modify/edit .bashrc?
[07-Sep-2007 00:27:32] <fiXXXerMet> nevermind
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[07-Sep-2007 13:01:09] <pablo26> hi all
[07-Sep-2007 13:02:33] <pablo26> is any way to create user groups, for example to all the members of agroup give the same alerting rules
[07-Sep-2007 13:05:21] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: not yet
[07-Sep-2007 13:09:35] <pablo26> ok. i can wait
[07-Sep-2007 15:05:14] <kippi> has anyone got port stats working with an juniper firewall?
[07-Sep-2007 15:06:49] <pablo26> i've got port stats but in another firewall
[07-Sep-2007 15:08:16] <kippi> how did you get them to work?
[07-Sep-2007 15:08:46] <pablo26> i downloaded the mib to see wich values i had to read to get that info
[07-Sep-2007 15:09:55] <kippi> did you just install the mib and it work? or did you have to put the values in somewhere else?
[07-Sep-2007 15:10:24] <pablo26> i dindt install it i just use it to see them in my computer
[07-Sep-2007 15:10:44] <pablo26> and then i create a new template with the values as data sources
[07-Sep-2007 15:11:11] <kippi> ah ha
[07-Sep-2007 15:37:42] <kippi> pablo26: where did you find the mib?
[07-Sep-2007 15:38:44] <pablo26> on the manofacturer page
[07-Sep-2007 15:43:00] <pablo26> i have to register to be able to use pm kippi
[07-Sep-2007 15:49:59] <kraut75> interesting, so you have to build your own performance templates for that kind of stuff
[07-Sep-2007 15:50:30] <kraut75> I've got a bunch of oids from the cisco firewall mib that I want to monitor for my pixs
[07-Sep-2007 15:50:50] <kippi> can anyone see bandwidth information on here http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos80/swconfig80-net-mgmt/html/enterprise-traps2.html#1096236
[07-Sep-2007 15:51:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Juniper Networks Enterprise-Specific SNMP Version 1 Traps (at www.juniper.net)
[07-Sep-2007 15:51:24] <kraut75> not traps
[07-Sep-2007 15:52:06] <kippi> what am i looking for then?
[07-Sep-2007 15:52:27] <kraut75> kippi: does juniper have an mib browser?
[07-Sep-2007 15:53:14] <kippi> just looking
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:07] <kippi> will that help me find what i am looking for?
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:29] <kraut75> I'm not sure if the netscreens actually support interface statistics via snmp
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:43] <kraut75> for some reason I recall it not being an option, but I could be wron.g
[07-Sep-2007 15:55:47] <kippi> damm
[07-Sep-2007 15:57:12] <kraut75> check this out http://www.snmplink.org/src/MIB.html
[07-Sep-2007 15:57:21] <adytum-bot> Title: www.SNMPLink.org - Enterprises & MIBs links (at www.snmplink.org)
[07-Sep-2007 15:59:21] <kippi> thanks, i will have a read and see what i can get, as i also have the same problems on the extreme kit
[07-Sep-2007 16:00:00] <kraut75> looks like nsIfFlowTable has all of the information you need
[07-Sep-2007 16:00:49] <kippi> now to get that working with zenoss
[07-Sep-2007 16:01:08] <kraut75> right...
[07-Sep-2007 16:25:55] <kraut75> has anyone ever played around with something similar to thresholds, but rather than using a percentage of the maximum linespeed used a sliding window to detect spikes? Let's say for example an alert raised if link utilization suddenly jumps by 50%
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[07-Sep-2007 18:00:09] <fiXXXerMet> I have zenoss installed and running and I went to add a device. After hitting the "Add Device" button, I'm redirected to a DeviceLoader page that says Status, but my device is never added.
[07-Sep-2007 18:00:31] <fiXXXerMet> There are 5 or 6 MySQL tables and none of them have anything about that device.
[07-Sep-2007 18:06:25] <pablo26> if snmp is not available for that device, it wont add it unless u change the discovery method from snmp to none
[07-Sep-2007 18:07:51] <fiXXXerMet> let me double check - thanks
[07-Sep-2007 18:47:49] <fiXXXerMet> pablo26: Nope, SNMP is installed on the server (Windows 2003).
[07-Sep-2007 18:48:04] <fiXXXerMet> At least I think so - It's added in the Windows Components thingy
[07-Sep-2007 18:49:18] <fiXXXerMet> Adding it as None works, but as SNMP doesn't.
[07-Sep-2007 18:49:26] <fiXXXerMet> but --
[07-Sep-2007 18:50:06] <pablo26> to check if snmp is working i use a little windows program or u can use snmpwalk , there are a lot of examples on the documentation
[07-Sep-2007 18:50:19] <fiXXXerMet> I've started to read but there is a lot
[07-Sep-2007 18:51:48] <fiXXXerMet> brb to bug you some more.
[07-Sep-2007 19:07:18] <kippi> i need to add ifSpeed so that I can get juniper stats, how can i link this in to the graphs?
[07-Sep-2007 19:08:41] <pablo26> u have to do several steps but they are easy go to the device class u want to add a template (/network/router/juniper)
[07-Sep-2007 19:10:04] <pablo26> there u add data sources, create one called ifSpeed and insert the OID in the other filed
[07-Sep-2007 19:10:30] <pablo26> once u have a data source u can create a threshold and a graph using that source
[07-Sep-2007 19:29:32] <fiXXXerMet> So I need another program - ZenWin - to get the Windows server stats
[07-Sep-2007 19:41:32] <kippi> ok, i think i have added ifSpeed, how do i add it to my router?
[07-Sep-2007 19:48:59] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Or if you install the SNMPInofmant plugin, it can pull windows stats through snmp
[07-Sep-2007 20:02:00] * fiXXXerMet looks!
[07-Sep-2007 20:02:24] <kippi> I have created a performance template under /Devices/Network/Router/Junpier but my devices dosn't seem to be picking it up
[07-Sep-2007 20:03:07] <fiXXXerMet> creiht: http://www.snmp-informant.com/ ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:03:14] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
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[07-Sep-2007 20:05:52] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: yes
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:11] <fiXXXerMet> Our dell servers, for example, have OpenManage, which monitors the hard drives (arrays, etc) and such. Could I also get that information?
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:26] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: You can, but it will take a little more leg work
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:32] <fiXXXerMet> Figured.
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:40] <creiht> You will have to set up a monitoring template for it
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:42] <fiXXXerMet> I've been using Zenoss / snmp for about 2 hours so I'm kind of a noob
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:50] <creiht> We all were once
[07-Sep-2007 20:07:27] <creiht> We have a similar situation where I would like to monitor the OpenManage stuff, but just haven't had time to look at it closer
[07-Sep-2007 20:07:58] <fiXXXerMet> That is actually the primary reason my boss wanted me to setup a snmp monitor service
[07-Sep-2007 20:08:21] <Bulwinkle> If anyone is having problems with their Catalyst switch interface names not showing up properly I think I have a fix...
[07-Sep-2007 20:34:10] <kippi> ok, added mt graph, but its not drawing, anyideas?
[07-Sep-2007 20:34:12] <kraut75> ack, what do I have to do to get zenoss to poll 64bit counters for my interfaces
[07-Sep-2007 20:35:56] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: make sure you are using v2c in zProperties for all of the devices and change the OIDs
[07-Sep-2007 20:36:54] <kraut75> change the OIDs where?
[07-Sep-2007 20:37:22] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: there already is a ethernetCsmacd_64 template, can I just rename it to ethernetCsmacd?
[07-Sep-2007 20:37:32] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: yessir
[07-Sep-2007 20:38:52] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: hmm, so if I have a mixed environment I'm out of luck?
[07-Sep-2007 20:39:23] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: just put all of your snmp v1 in a different group and change the template there...
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:01] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: group or class?
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:18] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: sorry class
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:30] <fiXXXerMet> i'm so lost.
[07-Sep-2007 20:41:04] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: whats the problem?
[07-Sep-2007 20:41:40] <m11> hello
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:00] <Bulwinkle> hi m11
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:08] <m11> hi bulwinkle
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:35] <m11> i installed zenoss but it seems i cant access it
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:18] <m11> shouldnt it be under localhost/zenoss ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:19] <Bulwinkle> m11: how are you trying to access it?
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:24] <m11> web
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:27] <fiXXXerMet> Bulwinkle: I just don't understand snmp and I'm confused.
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:34] <Bulwinkle> m11: no localhost:8080
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:45] <m11> ah
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:49] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: ah... can't help you there
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:04] <kippi> ok, added mt graph, but its not drawing, anyideas?
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:21] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: the one problem I see is that every single device inherents the base templates, so I can't just rename /Devices Standard ethernet interface template with 75% utilization threshold
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:24] <kippi> its not even drawing the white outline
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:25] <kraut75> oops
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:31] <kraut75> sorry about that
[07-Sep-2007 20:45:06] <kraut75> so I can't just rename ethernetCsmacd_64 because it will affect every class
[07-Sep-2007 20:46:10] <m11> ok , i got some error on connect, but now is working fine, many tnx bulwinkle , i go check it
[07-Sep-2007 20:47:27] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: put all of your devices you need to monitor with 64 bit counters in one class and change the template at that class
[07-Sep-2007 20:54:17] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: I guess I'm still a bit confused by the layout. when I look at the device template in /devices/network/router/cisco I see all of the performance templates from /devices already and modifying ethernetCsmacd is going to modify it for all of /devices
[07-Sep-2007 20:54:34] <kraut75> what am I missing
[07-Sep-2007 20:55:30] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: yes.... go to /devices and click the checkbox for ethernetCsmacs and the hit the pulldown above it and click copy to.... and copy it to /devices/network/router/cisco
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:19] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: doh... seems so simple now. Thanks for clarifying.
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:44] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: you'll learn your way around really quickly after a few months
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:51] <Bulwinkle> Have a great weekend all
[07-Sep-2007 20:57:53] <fiXXXerMet> Hey! I see a graph, though it is empty.
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:07] <m11> how can i add my router to list of devices ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:36] <kraut75> m11: version 2.x I take it?
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:41] <kraut75> fiXXXerMet: you're almost there
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:52] <kraut75> fiXXXerMet: it takes three passes for na to disappear
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:03] <kraut75> so in about 15 minutes you should have visible data
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:04] <m11> kraut75 yes
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:31] <m11> 2.0.5.0
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:47] <kraut75> m11: there are three ways that I am aware of. You could add the network your devices are on and do auto discovery. I'm not a big fan of autodiscovery so I went a different route
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:52] <kraut75> m11: I used zenbatchload
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:05] <kraut75> m11: syntax is zenbatchload -i <file name>
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:25] <kraut75> a simple flat text file with the hostnames of your routers or IP addresses will do.
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:59] <m11> hmm
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:08] <m11> i will try autodiscover 1st
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:27] <kraut75> m11: one more thing
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:31] <m11> yes?
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:34] <kraut75> m11: do you have full BGP tables?
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:44] <m11> sry m8, i just installed :/
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:52] <m11> freshmeat
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:02] <kraut75> autodiscovery was beating the crap out of my routers because of the Routemap collector
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:26] <kraut75> full tables with 200k plus routes being walked is no joke.
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:50] <kraut75> I removed it from the collectors because I didn't see value in it.
[07-Sep-2007 21:03:15] <kraut75> m11: also, make sure you add your snmp community string in zproperties if you are using something other then public or private
[07-Sep-2007 21:04:06] <m11> that is too far of my knowledge m8
[07-Sep-2007 21:04:57] <m11> i see only option under managment add device
[07-Sep-2007 21:06:33] <m11> kraut75 , what should i add in snmp comunity ?
[07-Sep-2007 21:23:09] <kraut75> m11: your community if you have one set
[07-Sep-2007 21:23:15] <kraut75> community string rather
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[07-Sep-2007 22:29:29] <^KidUnix^> is anyone running zenoss on freebsd 6.2
[07-Sep-2007 22:29:30] <^KidUnix^> ?
[07-Sep-2007 23:10:19] <fiXXXerMet> Am I able to monior switches like the linksys EF3124 with zenoss?
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[09-Sep-2007 03:03:22] <fiXXXerMet> Any way to get snmp stats from a linksys router (EF3124) or my smoothwall box?
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[09-Sep-2007 04:04:23] <fiXXXerMet> OK, smoothwall doesn't have build in snmp but what about a switch that doesn't have an ip address?
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[10-Sep-2007 06:47:26] <_zack> hi all, how can I specify the version number in a zenpack?
[10-Sep-2007 06:47:45] <_zack> it seems to me that without doing anything zenoss assumes a zenpack is always version 0.1, isn't it?
[10-Sep-2007 12:21:56] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[10-Sep-2007 12:27:20] <fiXXXerMet> I <3 monitoring stuff.
[10-Sep-2007 12:39:11] <Robbadub> lo
[10-Sep-2007 12:55:58] <fiXXXerMet> Have any of you added a Sonicwall fiirewall to zenoss?
[10-Sep-2007 13:06:00] <fiXXXerMet> When I add the device (ip address) of the sonicwall, I get sent to the DeviceLoader page, but nothing shows up.
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:12] <Robbadub> hi
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:23] <Robbadub> Whazzup with th e sonic?
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:56] <Robbadub> Allow the zenos machine to monitor snmp on your sonic
[10-Sep-2007 13:31:44] <Robbadub> check this with the snmpwalk command from the moniroting system
[10-Sep-2007 13:32:33] <Robbadub> Do this with: snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic IPforsonic system
[10-Sep-2007 13:32:43] <Robbadub> -v1 is snmp version
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:02] <Robbadub> -c is cummunitystring (public if your community string is public)
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:21] <Robbadub> IPforsonic the IP for Sonic
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:29] <Robbadub> system = use stanrd system MIB
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:10] <Robbadub> Make sure the Sonic has your machine in de aloowed SNMP network mangers
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:18] <Robbadub> managers
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:27] <Robbadub> Pfftt.. my typo's are many 2day
[10-Sep-2007 13:52:27] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: let me try\
[10-Sep-2007 14:01:01] <xinity_mbp> i'm new to zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:01:21] <xinity_mbp> i was wondering if the enterprise version of zenoss has any oracle agents?
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:23] <Robbadub> Zenoss reads snmp
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:39] <Robbadub> snmp are messages and components in a MIB tree
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:53] <xinity_mbp> i know that Robbadub
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:07] <Robbadub> If you introduce the correct MIB's in zenos with zenmib
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:19] <Robbadub> zenoss can intepret the messages
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:23] <xinity_mbp> you mean zenoss can ONLY read snmp ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:46] <xinity_mbp> so what about the remote plugins ? what are they for ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:50] <Robbadub> no also it has ways of monitoring certain systems via ssha and telnet
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:57] <Robbadub> And windows boxes via WMI
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:19] <Robbadub> Too much to explain here . Read the admin guide
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:27] <Robbadub> I can't do the implementation for you
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:40] <xinity_mbp> that"s not what i was asking
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:43] <Robbadub> lol
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:59] <xinity_mbp> i was just wondering if zenoss can monitor an oracle database
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:02] <xinity_mbp> that's all
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:11] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/2636/md-2636-1.html
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:18] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Juniper Networks, Inc. (at www.oidview.com)
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:00] <Robbadub> All the MIB stating with OID's with 1.3.6.1.4.1.111 are for Oracle products
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:06] <Robbadub> starting
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:35] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/111/md-111-1.html
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:35] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: OK, problem was that I didn't bind SNMP to the LAN interface, so it's work now
Except I'm not getting many statistics? The Perf tab is empty[10-Sep-2007 14:07:42] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Oracle (at www.oidview.com)
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:58] <Robbadub> The perf tab will need about half an hour to fill up with stats
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:08] <fiXXXerMet> Makes sense
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:11] <Robbadub> Patience my dear Watson
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:33] <Robbadub> Good luck and enjoy ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:59] <fiXXXerMet> Might I need to add more mibs or oids or whatever for more sonicwall stats?
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:08] <Robbadub> yes
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:11] <xinity_mbp> well well well let's have a deeper look at the admin guide
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:46] <Robbadub> look for zenmib and don't 4get tu run it as zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:51] <Robbadub> su zenoss that is
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:25] <fiXXXerMet> okay
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:35] <Robbadub> upload mibs to folder in /blah/zenos/shared/mibs/site etc....
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:38] <Robbadub> then run zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:44] <Robbadub> sorry.. zenmib
[10-Sep-2007 14:14:06] <Robbadub> The Sonic doesn't seem to have specific MIB's so is probably covered with generic RFC MIB's
[10-Sep-2007 14:14:22] <Robbadub> Check the sonic docs
[10-Sep-2007 14:20:11] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: The SonicWALL security appliance supports SNMP v1/v2c and all relevant Management Information Base II (MIB) groups except egp and at.
[10-Sep-2007 14:20:14] <fiXXXerMet> Sound good?
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:02] <Robbadub> Yep
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:07] <fiXXXerMet> kewl
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:20] <Robbadub> So what do you see now in the device's status and OS screens?
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:46] <Robbadub> If not satisfied do a re-model of the device. ZenModel wil make a new model of the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:51] <fiXXXerMet> OS had all the Interfaces and 3 routes.
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:57] <Robbadub> excellent
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:58] <fiXXXerMet> Status has some info
[10-Sep-2007 14:22:11] <fiXXXerMet> OS Version, model, bu tnot serial, or any manufacturer
[10-Sep-2007 14:22:46] <Robbadub> ok. In the OS Screen uncheck the monitored box
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:04] <Robbadub> in IP services for instance
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:14] <Robbadub> Othewise you only see the monitored ports
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:42] <fiXXXerMet> The monitored box?
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <Robbadub> You can specify IP ports in the services classses settings that need to be alway monitored
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <Robbadub> The same goes for services
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:19] <Robbadub> yep
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:32] <Robbadub> if it's not there you can see everything
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:55] <Robbadub> But is acts as a filter to only show IP ports and services that need to be monitored
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:26] <fiXXXerMet> gosh I have a lot to learn
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:37] <Robbadub> It is a big implementation
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:50] <Robbadub> At the other hand. There is no need for a lot of other tools ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:27] <Robbadub> As soon as you understand the inherited settings through the paths it becomes obvious
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:56] <fiXXXerMet> Under hardware, Memory and CPUs is all blank as well
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:59] <Robbadub> tHE DEEPER YOU GO, THE MORE DETAILED YOU CAN SET PARAMETERS
[10-Sep-2007 14:27:03] <Robbadub> oops caps
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:17] <Robbadub> yes the same goes for my Netscreens
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:26] <xinity_mbp> just to be sure , the zenoss plugins rpms should be installed on monitored boxes right ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:43] <Robbadub> no
[10-Sep-2007 14:29:05] <Robbadub> The plugins should be installed on the zenoss server
[10-Sep-2007 14:29:39] <Robbadub> It uses the plugins as an extra method next tot snmp ans portscan to probe the devices and make a "model" of the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:30:30] <Robbadub> A device is modeled according to the probing methods you specify for the device class where you put the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:30:44] <Robbadub> See the device class you want on the tab zproperties
[10-Sep-2007 14:31:31] <fiXXXerMet> Cool
I can see the throughput[10-Sep-2007 14:31:59] <Robbadub> yes
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:25] <Robbadub> and you can define these graphs for any oid (gauge) you like
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:31] <xinity_mbp> my oh my seems to me that next stage after discovery is modeling
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:48] <Robbadub> indeed
[10-Sep-2007 14:33:39] <Robbadub> So first discover. The dicovered devices are puyt in a class called discovered. Then you move them to their definitive class where you have made settings for the way you want them modeled.
[10-Sep-2007 14:34:17] <Robbadub> For instance... switcheds in the trusted zone are modeled thru snmp and maybe telnet. In untrust zone you can use ssh only :-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:36:37] <Robbadub> For switches be sure you added the zenoss.snmp.InterFaceAliasMap plugin in the zproperties
[10-Sep-2007 14:37:07] <Robbadub> his way you can more easily identify the the interfaces in switches and (who knows) firewalls
[10-Sep-2007 14:37:29] <Robbadub> Zenoss 2.0.5. has improved interface descriptions with IP. But I havent checked that out yet
[10-Sep-2007 14:38:07] <Robbadub> I'm running production too.. although with Zenoss my grip on the situation has drastically improved
[10-Sep-2007 14:38:20] <Robbadub> So all is nice and quiet here ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:49:25] <xinity_mbp> Robbadub: you rocks , thanks a lot
[10-Sep-2007 14:54:04] <Robbadub> Np m8t
[10-Sep-2007 15:08:40] <xinity_mbp> WoW !!! amazing !!!
[10-Sep-2007 15:09:54] <Robbadub> What? My wife?
[10-Sep-2007 15:10:04] <Robbadub> Yeah sure ...
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:21] <Robbadub> Has anyone come up with a way to maintain the SQL server a bit
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:21] <xinity_mbp> lol no Zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:25] <xinity_mbp>
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:33] <Robbadub> My History table grows and grows
[10-Sep-2007 15:12:12] <Robbadub> Yeah I'm glad you like it. I have been using Compaq Insight Management and stuff like that but his is way better
[10-Sep-2007 15:13:22] <Robbadub> Also i'm now working with Dell systems, virtualising on Xen.
[10-Sep-2007 15:13:57] <Robbadub> The Xen Host can be equipped with the Dell Openmange software and If you load the MIB's you can see the entire Xen Server
[10-Sep-2007 15:14:24] <Robbadub> Buth Zenoss support for the Xen guests is not so good yet. Does anyone know what to expect?
[10-Sep-2007 15:15:43] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: !!
[10-Sep-2007 15:16:02] <fiXXXerMet> I have a number of Dell servers with OpenManage that I'd really like to add to zenoss and you seem to know how
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[10-Sep-2007 15:42:16] <fiXXXerMet> wtb Robbadub
[10-Sep-2007 15:52:41] <fiXXXerMet> Heading out for sushi - will bother you later.
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[10-Sep-2007 16:09:30] <xinity_mbp> ok i've added some new collector plugins to classes
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[10-Sep-2007 17:00:26] <fiXXXerMet> I just installed snmp-informant and I am confused. Is it a program or service that runs in windows?
[10-Sep-2007 17:03:13] <pablo26> hi all
[10-Sep-2007 17:03:45] <pablo26> how do i monitor a webpage?
[10-Sep-2007 17:06:45] <fiXXXerMet> brb
[10-Sep-2007 17:27:23] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: do you have the HTTP Monitor plugin installed?
[10-Sep-2007 17:28:45] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone here familiar with SNMP Informant?
[10-Sep-2007 17:28:56] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: what do you need to know
[10-Sep-2007 17:30:15] <fiXXXerMet> Bulwinkle: Well I installed it on my windows server but I don't see any programs or services running.
[10-Sep-2007 17:30:22] <fiXXXerMet> Or am I misunderstanding it entirely?
[10-Sep-2007 17:32:11] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: to the best of my knowledge it provides an interface between then SNMP service that windows installs. It provides more OIDs to poll. Make sense?
[10-Sep-2007 17:33:28] <fiXXXerMet> Kind of. I have been told that I need that program installed in order to allow zenoss to monitor the server?
[10-Sep-2007 17:33:55] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: if you want to be able to monitor SNMP on WIndows you need it installed
[10-Sep-2007 17:34:33] <fiXXXerMet> I have installed it
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:05] <fiXXXerMet> From Add or Remove Programs
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:18] <fiXXXerMet> But when I try to add the server to my zenoss box, nothing happens
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:32] <pablo26> yes Bulwinkle, but i dont know how to use it
[10-Sep-2007 17:36:48] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: I suggest you put all of your servers you want to monitor in the same group and add the http monitor to the template for that group
[10-Sep-2007 17:41:48] <pablo26> can i do a do a query and search for something in the result?
[10-Sep-2007 18:15:01] <chris_d> If I have an NFS server that's exporting filesystems to a bunch of other servers, how can I monitor the file system *just* on the NFS server and not on the servers that are mounting the exports?
[10-Sep-2007 18:45:05] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: That script does not do that
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[10-Sep-2007 20:26:28] <^KidUnix^> hello all
[10-Sep-2007 20:26:35] <^KidUnix^> anybody running zenoss on freebsd?
[10-Sep-2007 20:26:38] <^KidUnix^> 6.2
[10-Sep-2007 20:27:21] <^KidUnix^> anybody alive?
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[11-Sep-2007 00:23:16] <NolanG> Does anyone know how to upgrade the Zenoss 2.0.4 VM to 2.0.5?
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[11-Sep-2007 06:32:40] <chowmeined> why does this happen? Every time I try out zenoss, I get it setup and then it explodes into a huge mess of false positives and starts throwing up events for hundreds of devices?
[11-Sep-2007 08:47:54] <xinity_mbp> hy guys
[11-Sep-2007 08:49:44] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows why after changing the zsnmpcommynity in zproperties deviceclasse i've made, when i try a run command : snmpwalk , it still uses the public community ?
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[11-Sep-2007 09:24:38] <xinity_mbp> nobody knows ?
[11-Sep-2007 11:44:21] Tino is now known as Tinozaure
[11-Sep-2007 11:46:01] <xinity_mbp> anybody here?
[11-Sep-2007 11:47:43] <xinity_mbp> what does exactly location groups are for ?
[11-Sep-2007 13:12:41] <drynish> Hello All
[11-Sep-2007 13:13:09] <drynish> Is there a way to gather the data more often than 5 minutes? I would like to gather it at each minute
[11-Sep-2007 13:13:41] <drynish> I changed the SNMP Performance Cycle Interval to 60 secs but the graphs are still slow to be updatede
[11-Sep-2007 13:14:46] <drynish> The reason why we're doing that way is that we want to collect some data at the client's house and our tech should not wait 5 minutes there waiting for the first update
[11-Sep-2007 13:14:59] <drynish> We want it right away appearing (or at least) not 5 minutes later
[11-Sep-2007 13:29:44] <b52laptop> i'm wondering if we can do real time monitoring
?[11-Sep-2007 13:29:57] <b52laptop> or i am askin g for too much :d
[11-Sep-2007 13:34:21] <b52laptop> ok the question was stupid
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:43] <drynish> I'm asking for 1 minute
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:50] <drynish> not real time
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:52] <drynish>
[11-Sep-2007 13:40:30] <b52laptop> ok boss
[11-Sep-2007 13:46:40] <drynish>
[11-Sep-2007 13:46:50] <drynish> Do you know a better way of doing real time monitoring?
[11-Sep-2007 13:47:11] <b52laptop> no sorry :d
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[11-Sep-2007 14:21:31] <hspcd> Howdy fellow Zenoss lovers!
[11-Sep-2007 14:21:47] <xinity_mbp> hy hspcd
[11-Sep-2007 14:22:45] <hspcd> Boy, the releases have been streaming out lately. Does anyone have any success or horror stories about upgrading from 2.0.3 to the newer revs that they would share? I am not sure I need/want to upgrade at this point.
[11-Sep-2007 14:23:10] <xinity_mbp> i did hspcd and it goes flowlessly
[11-Sep-2007 14:23:37] <hspcd> xinity_mbp: from what release to what release?
[11-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <xinity_mbp> i have some errors while discovering my networks , but i'll wait for the discover to end and take a closer look at the errors
[11-Sep-2007 14:24:12] <xinity_mbp> hspcd: from 2.0.4 to 2.0.6
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:07] <hspcd> xinity_mbp: so skipping a release or two is no problem... I guess you just did an rpm -Uvh?
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:19] <xinity_mbp> right
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:49] <hspcd> what about backing up my current environment first? I'd like to get that done before upgrading. Any tips on this?
[11-Sep-2007 14:26:52] <xinity_mbp> backup your mysql DB and the zenoss directory and then try to upgrade
[11-Sep-2007 15:25:14] <fiXXXerMet> If I installed snmp-informant on a windows box, do I need to install anything extra (mibs whatever) on the zenoss box/
[11-Sep-2007 15:25:15] <fiXXXerMet> ?
[11-Sep-2007 15:49:52] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: nope
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[11-Sep-2007 18:28:49] <_keturn> anyone heard things about ubuntu packages lately? I check in on the zenoss-packaging list on alioth from time to time, but it's been quiet lately.
[11-Sep-2007 19:44:38] <fiXXXerMet> Could anyone explain rights to me? Where/when should I use read, write and/or create?
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[11-Sep-2007 22:54:35] <oakleeman> who's awake?
[11-Sep-2007 23:10:49] <johns55> hi guys, has anyone seen this compile error before?
[11-Sep-2007 23:10:59] <johns55> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
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[11-Sep-2007 23:43:57] <Verilium> Do you have mysql installed?
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[12-Sep-2007 01:04:28] <chowmeined> drynish: real time monitoring would need an agent to work properly
[12-Sep-2007 02:43:59] <Trentster> hey all, could someone reccomend best practice when updating from 2.04 to 2.06 on centos 5, is there a recommended procedure to follow?
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[12-Sep-2007 05:26:57] <newbie1> Hello
[12-Sep-2007 05:42:55] <newbie1> Hello everybody
[12-Sep-2007 05:43:04] <newbie1> zenoss supports corba?
[12-Sep-2007 05:46:45] <Trentster> hey all, could someone reccomend best practice when updating from 2.04 to 2.06 on centos 5, is there a recommended procedure to follow?
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[12-Sep-2007 07:12:01] <saint> anybody around w/ much experience when it comes to alerting and escalation?
[12-Sep-2007 14:36:47] <GutterPunk> Hi. What would be the best choice of distro to install ZenOss on in a corporate environment. I'm used to doing everything with Debian, but in this case this seems to make things a bit more complicated. I'd like to have the system up to date without having ZenOss break, But I need a default kernel later than .20 because of my raid controller...
[12-Sep-2007 14:37:15] <GutterPunk> I tried Centos of course, with the same controller issues
[12-Sep-2007 14:41:59] <Bulwinkle> GutterPunk: I've written howtos for openSUSE and Fedora Core 6... Try opensuse 10.3 beta 3
[12-Sep-2007 14:47:29] <GutterPunk> Bulwinkle: this is a production environment... On the other hand of course, it won't do much more than some monitoring...
[12-Sep-2007 14:49:07] <GutterPunk> I usually refrain from using distros that get a new version revision every year without bothering about security updates for older versions.
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[12-Sep-2007 18:26:20] <johns55> hello all, i recieve this error when compiling from source, does anybody have an idea?
[12-Sep-2007 18:26:25] <johns55> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:14] <shakeSpear> hi
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:42] <shakeSpear> hi - would like to change the cycletime of the zenmodeler in ../etc/zenmodeler.conf
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:50] <shakeSpear> what's the correct syntax?
[12-Sep-2007 19:45:10] <monrad> anyone running zenoss on 64 bit?
[12-Sep-2007 19:56:47] <davemoore> Hello
[12-Sep-2007 19:57:35] <davemoore> I'm having an issue getting zenoss installed. I am getting a "database conflict" error and am not sure how to resolve it.
[12-Sep-2007 20:07:13] <davemoore> anyone around?
[12-Sep-2007 20:17:55] <indigo423> hi at all
[12-Sep-2007 20:17:59] <davemoore> hey hey
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:13] <indigo423> is here anyone with some experience with winexe for linux ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:27] <davemoore> not I and it seems pretty dead in here at the moment
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:40] <indigo423> ohh
too late [12-Sep-2007 20:19:03] <davemoore> Yep, trying to get zenoss going and hitting a wall, i suck at linux
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:20] <indigo423> 10:19pm at my time
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:28] <davemoore> only 3 here
[12-Sep-2007 20:23:32] <indigo423> you are new with zenoss ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:24:08] <indigo423> i search at the moment some opensource network-management/monitoring systems
[12-Sep-2007 20:30:48] <davemoore> yep
[12-Sep-2007 20:30:53] <davemoore> i haven't used it before
[12-Sep-2007 20:35:25] <indigo423> have you tested some other systems before?
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:06] <davemoore> not in this area
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:13] <b52laptop> me liked hyperic :d
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:22] <b52laptop> i liked hyperic :d
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:25] <davemoore> I'm just looking into it for our network engineer, im a programmer
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:28] <b52laptop> but it's java
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:38] <indigo423> in my company they prefer nagios at the moment, but hyperic is my favorite at the moment
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:45] <davemoore> cool, ill check it out
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:58] <davemoore> zenoss seems to have a lot of stuff, i just can't get it to work
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:15] <indigo423> i`m programming java
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:17] <b52laptop> indigo423, is it possible to do real time monitoring with hyperic ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:22] <b52laptop> indigo423, errrrr
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:28] <indigo423> not really
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:29] <b52laptop> indigo423, luck y:D
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:52] <b52laptop> i'm starting learning struts , it 's a little bit painfull
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:59] <b52laptop> indigo423, with zenoss ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:38:37] <indigo423> i don`t know my svn co is on the way
[12-Sep-2007 20:38:49] <davemoore> is hyperic oss?
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:11] <b52laptop> davemoore, yes
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:21] <indigo423> yes but with some restrictions in functionality
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:27] <davemoore> yeah that's the way it goes
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:33] <b52laptop> build on the top of java + jboss + struts for UI
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:48] <b52laptop> indigo423, what are the restrictions ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:51] <indigo423> i learn groovy and grails at the moment.
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:55] <davemoore> wish i could get zenoss going, seems to have everything we want
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:02] <davemoore> i do most of my programming in .NET or php
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:23] <indigo423> http://www.hyperic.com/downloads/
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Download Now - Free Open Source Network Monitoring Software | Hyperic (at www.hyperic.com)
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:45] <davemoore> yep, looking at it right now, what OS do you run it off of?
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:32] <indigo423> debian for most
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:37] <davemoore> k
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:43] <davemoore> <-- sucks at linus
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:45] <davemoore> linux
[12-Sep-2007 20:42:43] <davemoore> I've played around with centOS and ubuntu a bit, but when it comes to getting down to serious work on them. I lose it.
[12-Sep-2007 20:42:47] <indigo423> i work at an isp and we have no windows machines but i have nothing against windows servers
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:19] <indigo423>
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:44] <davemoore> I don't really care either way, we just use windows at my work so im stuck with it for the most part.
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:52] <indigo423> for testing hyperic i have downloaded the virtual machine and it runs out-of-the-box
[12-Sep-2007 20:44:14] <davemoore> yeah I tried the zenoss vm, but it didn't work all the way
[12-Sep-2007 20:44:51] <indigo423> has zenoss some features like autodiscovery and snmp-traphandling ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:15] <davemoore> no idea to be honest, i was trying to get it running and play around with it
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:35] <b52laptop> for zenoss , it use zope , and twissted + zenoss specific stuff .... it's too much learning man
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:44] <indigo423> the most things i hate in nagios are the millions of flat-configfiles, addons and terrible snmp features
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:11] <indigo423> i have already tested opennms some oppions here about that?
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:17] <davemoore> is hyperic pretty easy to get g oing?
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:46] <indigo423> sorry for the extra p
[12-Sep-2007 20:49:24] <indigo423> the web-ui is really powerfull with many ajax
[12-Sep-2007 20:50:18] <indigo423> it has an installer and it was not very complicate to install. nagios compiling is more difficult
[12-Sep-2007 20:52:17] <davemoore> well, time for me to head out, thanks for the tips on hyperic
[12-Sep-2007 20:52:36] <indigo423> no prob
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:40] <johns55> hi
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:46] <johns55> im getting this error when compiling
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:47] <johns55> unable to create the initial Zenoss object database
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:50] <johns55> any ideas?
[12-Sep-2007 21:11:28] <indigo423> i install at this time zenoss from svn
[12-Sep-2007 21:14:07] <indigo423> i have installed libmysqlclient15-dev and python-dev package + setting the environments before run the install script
[12-Sep-2007 21:15:10] <indigo423> zenoss ist building nagios-plugins ??
[12-Sep-2007 21:15:59] <indigo423> and installing nagios ???
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[12-Sep-2007 21:54:24] <johns55> i think u need a database set up
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:24] <fiXXXerMet> I just did simply a snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname and I got 1672 results
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:35] <fiXXXerMet> Looking through, they're exactlyw hat I want to monitor - but it doesn't tell me which OID to use
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:39] <fiXXXerMet> Only a name (like hrSystemProcesses)
[12-Sep-2007 22:12:55] <fiXXXerMet> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSystemProcesses.0 = Gauge32: 69 for example
[12-Sep-2007 22:13:00] <fiXXXerMet> How do I find that's UID?
[12-Sep-2007 22:13:01] <fiXXXerMet> er, oid
[12-Sep-2007 22:16:21] <fiXXXerMet> i'll be back tomorrow to ask!
[12-Sep-2007 23:12:41] <Verilium> fixx: snmpwalk -O n
[12-Sep-2007 23:12:44] <Verilium> Ah damn.
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[13-Sep-2007 00:45:27] <johns55> anyone know how to install httpmonitor plug in?
[13-Sep-2007 01:44:45] <oakleeman> anybody awake?
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[19-Sep-2007 00:45:51] <eurowerke> anyone around that can help me with something?
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[19-Sep-2007 07:27:39] <iuso> hi. how do i upgrade zenoss 2.0.5 to 2.0.6 from source?
[19-Sep-2007 07:33:31] <iuso> nevermind, found the document in the tarball
[19-Sep-2007 08:36:55] <Merciless> anyone around for a quick chat about mib's/wmi and disk monitoring
[19-Sep-2007 09:27:14] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[19-Sep-2007 09:27:25] <xinity_mbp> anyone uses zenoss with some poweredge servers ?
[19-Sep-2007 10:33:03] <baz> hi anybody here?
[19-Sep-2007 11:06:47] <progma> anyone using 2.0.6 yet
[19-Sep-2007 11:50:26] <xinity_mbp> progma: i do
[19-Sep-2007 11:54:37] <progma> xinity_mbp: did you upgrade from a previous version?
[19-Sep-2007 11:54:53] <xinity_mbp> i do from 2.0.4
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:08] <progma> i'm running 2.0.3 which has a few minor bugs so was wondering if it was worth it to go to 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:27] <progma> oh ok; where are docs on upgrade?
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:59] <xinity_mbp> progma: i only dl the rpm and done a rpm -Uvh zenoss rpms
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:13] <xinity_mbp> and that's all he automatically have done the migration
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:45] <progma> nice, ok
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:58] <progma> i have rhel so ishould be able to do that
[19-Sep-2007 12:12:40] <progma> xinity_mbp: yup no problem, am now running 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 12:12:52] <xinity_mbp>
[19-Sep-2007 12:21:48] <Folke> anyone here that run hpsim snmp against zenoss for perfmon?
[19-Sep-2007 12:22:34] <Folke> Arh, meant hpasm
[19-Sep-2007 12:23:41] <monrad> not yet but i have been testing it
[19-Sep-2007 12:23:44] <monrad> hpasm
[19-Sep-2007 12:25:31] <Folke> monrad: did you get any snmp perf from it?
[19-Sep-2007 12:26:24] <monrad> not per default, i had to find the oids i wanted to monitor myself
[19-Sep-2007 12:26:51] <Folke> monrad: Ah then add them into a template?
[19-Sep-2007 12:27:59] <monrad> yes
[19-Sep-2007 12:28:45] <Folke> monrad: thanx. Btw, do you have such template that you could share?
[19-Sep-2007 12:29:26] <monrad> no it got deleted i have not made a new yet
[19-Sep-2007 12:29:28] <monrad> :/
[19-Sep-2007 12:48:58] <Folke> monrad: np, I will check if I can do it and perhaps share it. Thanks for the help anyway!
[19-Sep-2007 12:49:45] <monrad> Folke: np
[19-Sep-2007 13:15:00] <Merciless> localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure
[19-Sep-2007 13:15:01] <Merciless> :s
[19-Sep-2007 13:17:06] <progma> do you guys use a centralized syslog/syslog-ng with the event console
[19-Sep-2007 13:47:44] <fiXXXerMet> I have a problem with my Load Averages graph. The numbers/scales are way off - I'm going to paste an example image.
[19-Sep-2007 13:48:15] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/gkwrxi.jpg there we are
[19-Sep-2007 13:48:24] <fiXXXerMet> A load of 200 million seems a bit high
[19-Sep-2007 13:52:53] <Merciless> localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure
[19-Sep-2007 13:52:55] <Merciless> anyone have any ideas
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:17] <fiXXXerMet> I had the same thing and was told to clear my heartbeats for that device.
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:21] <fiXXXerMet> No problems since.
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:24] <Merciless> how
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:16] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:47] <fiXXXerMet> Navigate to the device and it's in the drop down arrow thingy
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:49] <jb> anyone monitoring AIX hosts?
[19-Sep-2007 13:56:27] <fiXXXerMet> not eye
[19-Sep-2007 13:57:55] <Merciless> thanks fiXXXerMet
[19-Sep-2007 13:57:56] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 13:58:18] <Merciless> how about
[19-Sep-2007 13:58:19] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[19-Sep-2007 13:59:56] <fiXXXerMet> No idea
[19-Sep-2007 13:59:58] <fiXXXerMet> I'm a noob myself
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:16] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:18] <Merciless> fair enough
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:22] <Merciless> 1 out of 2 aint bad
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:30] <Bulwinkle> *YAWN*
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:38] <Bulwinkle> whats going on in here today?
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:54] <Merciless> fuck all
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:56] <Merciless> and hi Bulwinkle how are you
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:06] <Bulwinkle> same as always... good Merciless
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:09] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:11] <Merciless> good good
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:22] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121) <--- that just show that WMI isnt working properly?
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:40] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: probably... let me look
[19-Sep-2007 14:57:10] <Merciless> kk
[19-Sep-2007 14:58:28] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: are you running 2.0.6?
[19-Sep-2007 14:59:29] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to have a threshold only trigger of the value is above a limit for a certain amount of time?
[19-Sep-2007 14:59:50] <fiXXXerMet> Like, CPU utilizaton > 80 & time > 5 minutes?
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:20] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: you can look at how often it polls and then extrapolate that to the "Count" field
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:46] <Merciless> yes Bulwinkle
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:48] <Merciless> 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:14] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: there is a thread going about that.... I'd keep an eye on it. Have you had this problem before you upgraded?
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:47] <Merciless> tbh, i stopped using it but no never had this problem with 2.0.4
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:52] <fiXXXerMet> It poles every 5 minutes so if I wanted it to trigger a warning after 1 hour, I'd set the Escalate Count field to 12?
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:18] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: yes... 5 * 12 = 60 minutes / 1 Hour
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:25] <fiXXXerMet> cool
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:41] <fiXXXerMet> Going to send me an email when the lights are turned on for longer than an hour ("Turn them off!")
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:55] <Merciless> your lights have mibs?
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:58] <Merciless> expensive house
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:01] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:05] <fiXXXerMet> lol no
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:14] <fiXXXerMet> But we have an environment monitor with a light sensor
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:20] <Merciless> ah ok
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:36] <fiXXXerMet> Which, for some reason, measures light on a 0 - 100 scale
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:06] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:17] <Merciless> maybe it was meant to be 0/1
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:19] <Merciless> and someone did a typo
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:20] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 15:16:21] <Bulwinkle> Could be the difference from ambient light from outside (windows)....
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:17] <Merciless> Bulwinkle
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:23] <Merciless> wats the exact diff between paid for and free zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:23] <Merciless>
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:33] <Merciless> prob gna implement it in our network ya see
[19-Sep-2007 15:18:05] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: support.... you get it with Paid.... and there is some additional functionality (CMDB and such) also...
[19-Sep-2007 15:19:47] <Merciless> I guess the only reason we'd pay is for the support
[19-Sep-2007 15:19:50] <Merciless> and you know i need a lot
[19-Sep-2007 15:20:56] <Merciless> the biggest prob is replacing all the snmp information oid's with default snmp ones that do similar jobs haha
[19-Sep-2007 15:21:03] <Merciless> we cant install snmp informant on customer equip
[19-Sep-2007 15:21:50] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: they are asking for ~ $100US per device so.... We've gone with the "If it doesn't work, you're SOL" support model.
[19-Sep-2007 15:22:19] <Merciless> SOL?
[19-Sep-2007 15:23:33] <creiht> Bulwinkle: You always have us
[19-Sep-2007 15:23:51] <Bulwinkle> creiht: yes... ALWAYS
[19-Sep-2007 15:24:23] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 15:24:26] <Merciless> its been empty in here today
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:08] <Bulwinkle> I've been trying to get someone to fix the Windows servers not being polled problem for over a month now.... even put in a ticket...
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:17] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:20] <Merciless> and u pay?
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:52] <Bulwinkle> no
[19-Sep-2007 15:26:25] <Bulwinkle> I'd gladly pay if I actually though I might get the support that the price should provide me....
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:16] <Bulwinkle> Once the updates get under control.... (stop breaking two things for each fix)... things will be better (that has been my mantra for months)
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:20] <progma> is zenoss hiring ;>
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:52] <Bulwinkle> progma: they were...
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:59] <Bulwinkle> dunno about lately
[19-Sep-2007 15:29:28] <Bulwinkle> No specific jobs posted but, "We're always looking for people with energy, talent, and creative drive, balanced with a commitment to precision and quality." .... who the hell isn't
[19-Sep-2007 15:29:52] <Bulwinkle> creiht: are you a ZenOSS employee?
[19-Sep-2007 15:31:22] <Bulwinkle> BBIAB - Meeting
[19-Sep-2007 15:35:21] <creiht> Bulwinkle: nope
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[19-Sep-2007 17:18:51] <fiXXXerMet> I'm still having trouble formatting the values that I am graphing. My temperature sensors report in celsius like "250" which actually means 25.0, however, the graphs are showing as 250.00
[19-Sep-2007 17:19:44] <MoreDakka> you could try to create a cdef to divid the number by 10.
[19-Sep-2007 17:19:57] <MoreDakka> I know how to do it in Cacti but not in zenoss :-/
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:40] <kgoedte1> you need to format the values
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:42] <kgoedte1> http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdgraph_graph.en.html
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:56] <adytum-bot> Title: RRDtool - rrdgraph_graph (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[19-Sep-2007 17:24:24] <fiXXXerMet> So the format is %5.2lf%s %5.2lf means "prints numbers like 12345.6789, with optional field width and precision." so 12345.12? And %s adds k or m or whatever
[19-Sep-2007 17:24:42] <fiXXXerMet> So I'd want %2.1lf ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:25:33] <fiXXXerMet> still not right
[19-Sep-2007 17:25:48] <kgoedte1> ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:12] <fiXXXerMet> %2.1lf is showing 430 as 430.0 and not 43.0
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:18] <MoreDakka> rrdtool probably doesn't see that number as 25.0 it sees it as 250.
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:45] <fiXXXerMet> You're right
[19-Sep-2007 17:27:28] <fiXXXerMet> How acn I change that?
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:00] <MoreDakka> you could try to divide by 10.
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:26] <MoreDakka> a, 10, / <--as a cdef function in cacti, zenoss will probably take that differently.
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:42] <xinity_mbp> anyone has any experience using other nagios plugins than check_http or check_dns ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:42] <kgoedte1> takes it the same
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:09] <kgoedte1> ive been trying to get check_ntp to work, but the datapoint doesnt show up when i create a zenpack
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:19] <kgoedte1> and i have no idea why
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:44] <xinity_mbp> kgoedte1: hum i see
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:29] <kgoedte1> i used dnsmonitor as a guide and modified the python and xml
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:45] <kgoedte1> the xml template is right, but no datapoint
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:51] <kgoedte1> and no errors
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:02] <xinity_mbp> weird
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:11] <kgoedte1> have you created any?
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:37] <xinity_mbp> not a zenpack , but i'm trying to get check_megaraid for nagios plugins, working with zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:50] <kgoedte1> as a command?
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:56] <kgoedte1> or a datasource
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:12] <xinity_mbp> just a command, it may not return any data usable to be graphed
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:30] <kgoedte1> so what is the problem you have?
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:55] <xinity_mbp> understanding how command creation works
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:07] <kgoedte1> ahh
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:11] <kgoedte1> it's pretty simple
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:42] <kgoedte1> what part arent you sure about?
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:08] <xinity_mbp> i wasn't sure if datasource is always needed
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:14] <kgoedte1> well
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:18] <xinity_mbp> or if it's only needed for graphs
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:38] <kgoedte1> hmm
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:52] <kgoedte1> do you have a sample output from it?
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:16] <kgoedte1> as far as i know there is nothing you can do with string data in zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:52] <xinity_mbp> well it just returns OK, WARNING or CRITICAL
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:56] <xinity_mbp> no data string
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:22] <xinity_mbp> for example
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:35] <xinity_mbp> i didn't catch for escalation count is for ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:44] <xinity_mbp> what does mean escalation count 5 ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:41:23] <kgoedte1> like how many occurences trigger an alert
[19-Sep-2007 17:41:25] <MoreDakka> fiXXXerMet: Did that divide by 10 fix your issue?
[19-Sep-2007 17:42:04] <xinity_mbp> kgoedte1: i see if i set it to 10 , everytime to treshold goes up 10 times zenoss will trigger an alert ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:43:19] <fiXXXerMet> CDEF:a,10,/ is all I need to enter?
[19-Sep-2007 17:44:52] <xinity_mbp> oups time to go home see ya later on guys
[19-Sep-2007 17:47:19] <MoreDakka> fiXXXerMet: I'm guessing that the format will remain %0.2lf%s but I'm not sure where to enter the math for that :-/
[19-Sep-2007 17:47:26] <MoreDakka> haven't done it in zenoss before, just cacti
[19-Sep-2007 18:25:40] <fiXXXerMet> Any of you monitoring smoothwall servers? I'd like to graph the bandwidth/throughput
[19-Sep-2007 18:25:43] <fiXXXerMet> But I can't find those oids
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:25] <nws> nice size group
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:43] <nws> is this place active?
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:50] <kgoedte1> never
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:52] <nws> heh
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:25] <nws> im going through the data migration from 1.1 to 2.0
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:38] <kgoedte1> 2.1 beta out!
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:50] <nws> and when i run bin/python zen2dump.py, i receive an error
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:58] <nws> kgoedte1: i know, thats what im trying to install
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:15] <kgoedte1> cool, yah im about to right now
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:48] <nws> this is the error i get
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:49] <nws> http://pastebin.com/d733923ab
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:57] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2007 19:22:40] <kgoedte1> i have no idea with that, i never bothered migrating
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:00] <kgoedte1> i just wiped and started over since i didnt have much
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:24] <nws> yea...
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:28] <nws> thats not gonna happen here
[19-Sep-2007 19:25:09] <kgoedte1> and you are running this as zenoss user i hope
[19-Sep-2007 19:30:11] <nws> yea
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:23] <nws> hahaha
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:28] <nws> and this link is broken
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:29] <nws> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:33] <nws> what a POS
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Sep-2007 20:15:47] <fiXXXerMet> That mapping feature in 2.1 is super cool
[19-Sep-2007 20:16:02] <nws> fiXXXerMet: did you have any trouble upgrading?
[19-Sep-2007 20:16:44] <fiXXXerMet> Haven' done so yet - just saw the screen shots
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:16] <nws> let me know if you run into issues with the zen2dump.py
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:36] <nws> im seeing that im not the only one with errors from that script
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:47] <nws> its just that none of them are uniform so far
[19-Sep-2007 20:18:02] <fiXXXerMet> okay
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:23] <kgoedte1> lots of stuff is broken for me in 2.1
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:35] <nws> hah
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:42] <nws> this is getting better and better
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:51] <nws> what is "broken" for you?
[19-Sep-2007 20:21:08] <kgoedte1> the example zenpacks dont work, locations panel in dashboard errors
[19-Sep-2007 21:40:51] <fiXXXerMet> How do I change the default snmp polling time?
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[19-Sep-2007 23:57:16] <z00dax> hello
[19-Sep-2007 23:58:29] <z00dax> humm, actually - i shall be back later
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[20-Sep-2007 00:22:53] <kanderson> Hello. Has any experienced the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA' when zenoss attempts to send alerts?
[20-Sep-2007 03:00:59] <kanderson> Has any experienced the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA' when zenoss attempts to send alerts?
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[20-Sep-2007 10:54:28] <twarnick> hi, i have now running the beta 1, but cannot discover any devices. it runs on a error in "ZDeviceLoader.py". is there a patch or workaround availby?
[20-Sep-2007 11:12:20] <twarnick> have any body the same error?
[20-Sep-2007 11:26:57] <Folke> twarnick: I had the same problem when testing it in vmware app,
[20-Sep-2007 11:27:58] <twarnick> i have it also running as vmware app.
[20-Sep-2007 11:31:36] <twarnick> have any body beta 1 running without vmware? (and have this error)?
[20-Sep-2007 12:04:44] * z00dax back
[20-Sep-2007 12:04:51] <z00dax> so guys, any of you based in London ?
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:00] <z00dax> also, does anyone know when Chris is around ?
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:06] * z00dax lurks
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:34] <Folke> twarnick: sry, only with appliance.
[20-Sep-2007 12:35:36] <fiXXXerMet> To uninstall zenoss, can I just rm -r /usr/local/zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 12:43:07] <z00dax> fiXXXerMet: rpm -e might work too
[20-Sep-2007 12:43:51] <fiXXXerMet> I didn't install from a package
[20-Sep-2007 15:22:33] <jp10558> Hey, with monitoring Windows machines, is there any way to specify what event log entries get brought over as events in Zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 15:36:04] <fiXXXerMet> Where do I change the default snmp polling time?
[20-Sep-2007 17:15:21] <pablo26> hi all
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[20-Sep-2007 17:16:19] <pablo26> is any way to monitor a web page native from zenoss, or i have to use check_http from nagios?
[20-Sep-2007 17:22:15] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to have zenoss send a test email?
[20-Sep-2007 17:23:13] <pablo26> on every user u have next to the mail a test button, is that what u want?
[20-Sep-2007 17:23:14] <davetoo> I can think of several ways to make zenoss send a test email.
[20-Sep-2007 17:23:27] <davetoo> That's the most obvious one
[20-Sep-2007 17:24:06] <davetoo> Settings->Users (or /ZenUsers)
[20-Sep-2007 17:24:07] <fiXXXerMet> Well I didn't know that!
[20-Sep-2007 17:24:15] <fiXXXerMet> Only user I've used is admin
[20-Sep-2007 17:25:06] <pablo26> how does zenoss monitor public available services?
[20-Sep-2007 17:32:48] <kanderson> Hi all, has anybody seen the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN ' when zenoss sends alerts?
[20-Sep-2007 17:33:30] <davetoo> No, where does that show up? And does it prevent the alert mail from being sent?
[20-Sep-2007 17:34:58] <kanderson> yes
[20-Sep-2007 17:35:30] <kanderson> If you could reference this post.... http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3326 ... I have all the details
[20-Sep-2007 17:35:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Sendmail, Zenoss, and missing MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETR (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Sep-2007 17:36:07] <kanderson> But it shows up in maillog when an alert is sent
[20-Sep-2007 17:36:45] <kanderson> However, the test email (under ZenUsers /admin ) works fine
[20-Sep-2007 17:37:00] <kanderson> I dont know if it is a sendmail conf or zenoss issue
[20-Sep-2007 17:37:14] <kanderson> If you can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it
[20-Sep-2007 17:38:15] <davetoo> sorry, I'm not gonna have time to troubleshoot that
[20-Sep-2007 17:38:29] <kanderson> np, I understand
[20-Sep-2007 17:38:37] <kanderson> been working on it for a while myself
[20-Sep-2007 17:43:28] <davetoo> All I can offer is: look at the code for .../Products/ZenUtils/Utils.py (searched for the string "sendmail" in a find command)
[20-Sep-2007 17:43:55] <kanderson> ty
[20-Sep-2007 18:12:37] <jsm> i'm interested in upgrading from zenoss 2.03 to the latest, is there anything special i have to do besides installing the new RPM?
[20-Sep-2007 18:14:51] <davetoo> What do the release notes say?
( I don't think so, but I always install from source. )[20-Sep-2007 18:17:22] <jsm> pablo26: what do you mean? public available sources?
[20-Sep-2007 18:17:29] <jsm> davetoo: relnotes didn't say anything
[20-Sep-2007 18:17:52] <jsm> davetoo: i have it running on a VM.. i suppose i'll just back the whole VM up and then try the upgrade
[20-Sep-2007 18:22:17] <davetoo> pablo26: yes, I always install from the tarball, not the RPM or the VMWare instance.
[20-Sep-2007 18:26:00] <fiXXXerMet> I can't get emails working. I click on test and the page just sits there with an hour glass?
[20-Sep-2007 18:26:07] <fiXXXerMet> Which log can I look at?
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:19] <pablo26> jsm: for example i want to check the response for www.ilocal.nl/rubriek/hotels
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:30] <jsm> pablo26: easy
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:37] <jsm> pablo26: just setup a httpmonitor
[20-Sep-2007 18:27:55] <jsm> pablo26: add your own custom class that doesn't use snmp or ping checks
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:02] <jsm> call it /ExternalSites
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:04] <pablo26> can i search for some text on the page or just see the page error?
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:06] <jsm> or something
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:10] <jsm> pablo26: yup
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:21] <jsm> it will do regexp
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:38] <pablo26>
i like that[20-Sep-2007 18:28:49] <jsm> i can walk you through it
[20-Sep-2007 18:28:53] <jsm> it's a little tricky the first time
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[20-Sep-2007 18:33:37] <pablo26> ok, where do i start?
[20-Sep-2007 18:33:46] <jsm> first create a new class
[20-Sep-2007 18:34:06] <jsm> go to Devices
[20-Sep-2007 18:34:31] <jsm> and hit the \/ at Sub-Devices and select Add New Organizer
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:15] <jsm> call it ExternalServers
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:19] <jsm> or whatever you like
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:33] <pablo26> done
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:45] <jsm> ok, now go to that new class
[20-Sep-2007 18:35:49] <jsm> and go to the zProperties tab
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:15] <jsm> zPingMonitorIgnore = True
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:22] <jsm> zSnmpMonitorIgnore = True
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:50] <jsm> i think that's it
[20-Sep-2007 18:36:56] <pablo26> can i just monitor the site without doing any check on the server?
[20-Sep-2007 18:37:04] <jsm> yeah, that's why you are setting those to True
[20-Sep-2007 18:37:15] <jsm> True means, "yes ignore ping and snmp"
[20-Sep-2007 18:37:57] <pablo26> sorry, taht was a stupid question
[20-Sep-2007 18:38:35] <jsm> did you get that part done?
[20-Sep-2007 18:38:56] <pablo26> yes
[20-Sep-2007 18:39:25] <jsm> Ok, now go to "add device" and add www.ilocal.nl, and make sure you assign it to the new class you just created
[20-Sep-2007 18:39:41] <jsm> save you zproperties, obviously
[20-Sep-2007 18:40:16] <jsm> When you add the device, set Discovery Protocol to "none" and set your Device Class Path
[20-Sep-2007 18:40:39] <pablo26> done
[20-Sep-2007 18:40:56] <jsm> ok
[20-Sep-2007 18:41:14] <jsm> ok, now go to the device list and click on that box you just added
[20-Sep-2007 18:41:57] <jsm> click the drop down arrow -> More -> Templates
[20-Sep-2007 18:42:29] <jsm> should be a blank list of templates?
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:09] <pablo26> just device that monitos sysuptime, but snmo is disabled so i shouldn do anithing
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:36] <jsm> um
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:52] <jsm> yeah i don't have any other templates on the external sites i monitor
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:53] <jsm> just one
[20-Sep-2007 18:43:59] <jsm> that's what i need you to create
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:01] <jsm> add a new template
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:04] <jsm> call it httpMonitor
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:34] <pablo26> done
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:47] <jsm> ok now click on that template
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:52] <jsm> and add a new datasource
[20-Sep-2007 18:44:59] <jsm> you can call it httpMonitor as well
[20-Sep-2007 18:45:14] <jsm> the Source Type will be COMMAND
[20-Sep-2007 18:45:58] <jsm> the command will be: check_http -H ${dev/id} -u /rubriek/hotels
[20-Sep-2007 18:46:10] <jsm> actually
[20-Sep-2007 18:46:28] <jsm> if you wanted to check for the word "Amsterdam" it would be
[20-Sep-2007 18:46:37] <jsm> check_http -H ${dev/id} -u /rubriek/hotels -r Amsterdam
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:03] <pablo26> ok, but that was using nagios if i'm not wrong
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:17] <jsm> yeah, zenoss can use nagios plugins
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:36] <pablo26> and what is httpMonitor the plug in for zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 18:47:57] <jsm> the httpMonitor plugin is kinda broken at version 1.0... unless you want to get the latest version from CVS
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:02] <jsm> i just use this one for now
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:04] <jsm> works fine
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:15] <pablo26> ok, i'm using nagios currently
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:26] <jsm> so set th eevent key to Web Check or something
[20-Sep-2007 18:48:38] <jsm> and your datapoints are size,time, both with GAUGE types
[20-Sep-2007 18:50:41] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[20-Sep-2007 18:50:45] <pablo26> those are all the datapoints i have? what about if a get an error i.e. 404
[20-Sep-2007 18:50:58] <jsm> you'll get an alert
[20-Sep-2007 18:51:29] <jsm> you'll get an alert if it's anything but a 200 response
[20-Sep-2007 18:51:35] <jsm> or if it doesn't match your string
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:00] <pablo26> what languaje does it use for the regex?
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:14] <jsm> i dunno, i've only done english
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:29] <jsm> or you mean programming language?
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:36] <pablo26> yes
[20-Sep-2007 18:52:58] <jsm> i think standard perl regexps, not sure.. i only check for a single word, nothing fancy
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:02] <pablo26> it would be very intresting to get the value of a tag in an xml
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:12] <jsm> pablo26: you can run http_check from the command line for more info
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:18] <pablo26> i'll check that on nagios documentation
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:22] <jsm> sorry check_http
[20-Sep-2007 18:53:48] <jsm> and lastly, you can setup a graph and threshold if you want, using the datapoints you created
[20-Sep-2007 18:54:01] <pablo26> yeah to make it look nicer
[20-Sep-2007 18:54:18] <jsm> and also, you can buy me an Amstel next time i'm in Amsterdam
[20-Sep-2007 18:54:59] <pablo26> in fact i can get u a quilmes when u come to argentina
[20-Sep-2007 18:55:21] <jsm> pablo26: hah, even better
. I haven't been to South America at all.[20-Sep-2007 18:55:58] <pablo26> where are u from?
[20-Sep-2007 18:56:05] <jsm> i'm in the States
[20-Sep-2007 18:56:19] <jsm> wash, dc
[20-Sep-2007 18:56:49] <pablo26> oh if u told me a couple of week early i was in herndon, va
[20-Sep-2007 18:57:05] <jsm> oh yeah, right down the road from here
[20-Sep-2007 18:57:34] <pablo26> i went many times to dc
[20-Sep-2007 18:57:42] <pablo26> very nice city
[20-Sep-2007 18:58:10] <jsm> thanks, I like it here. most people don't know much about it other than the monuments and such.
[20-Sep-2007 18:58:57] <pablo26> i know very much i get lost many times
[20-Sep-2007 18:59:12] <jsm> yeah it's easy to get lost in.. streets going in every direction
[20-Sep-2007 19:55:18] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[20-Sep-2007 20:07:18] <cannonball> Hey all. I have a perl daemon that opens port 8005 so we can monitor it with our existing mrtg setup. I'm trying to get zenoss to monitor it the same way.
[20-Sep-2007 20:07:37] <cannonball> When I go into /Services/IpService/tcp_08005, it shows the instances on all of the machines.
[20-Sep-2007 20:09:04] <cannonball> So I created a sub-service called "recreateConf.pl" and put tcp_08005 as the Service Key.
[20-Sep-2007 20:09:37] <cannonball> I then modeled a few of the devices. But they did not pick up this new sub-service. I must have missed a step, but I'm not sure where.
[20-Sep-2007 20:11:23] <cannonball> I'm sure it's related, but when am in the /Services root, it lists the sub-service I added, but it has 0 for the port. It doesn't let me directly change the port anywhere in there, I assumed that putting tcp_08005 as the Service Key would take care of that.
[20-Sep-2007 20:42:23] <Lorework> hey did anyone d/l the Core 2.1 Beta?
[20-Sep-2007 20:42:32] <Lorework> the vmware version
[20-Sep-2007 20:43:20] <Lorework> Cause i just ran it and I'm getting some weird "rPath appliance Platform"
[20-Sep-2007 20:54:15] <fiXXXerMet> What table holds user information?
[20-Sep-2007 21:04:49] <fiXXXerMet> Also, zenoss has stopped gathering snmp info for one device (localhost)
[20-Sep-2007 21:31:17] <raid900> can someone tell me the username and password for the appliance. https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8003
[20-Sep-2007 21:45:50] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[20-Sep-2007 22:09:42] <jbs123> Hello
[20-Sep-2007 22:10:29] <jbs123> Anyone here for a quick (I hope) WMI question?
[20-Sep-2007 22:23:30] <chowmeined> I am trying to add a device using XML-RPC with python, I am following the example howto, the request returns 0 (good).. but the device doesn't appear in zenoss
[20-Sep-2007 23:39:31] <eurowerke> man o man
[20-Sep-2007 23:39:45] <eurowerke> my local irc client refuses to work on irc
[20-Sep-2007 23:40:02] <eurowerke> i can connect and everything to a network but then when I try to join a channel it never does
[20-Sep-2007 23:41:35] <z00dax> eurowerke: just use telnet
[20-Sep-2007 23:41:49] <eurowerke> yeah I'm ssh'd to another box
[20-Sep-2007 23:41:52] <eurowerke> currently
[20-Sep-2007 23:42:01] <z00dax> no
[20-Sep-2007 23:42:04] <z00dax> i meant telnet for irc
[20-Sep-2007 23:45:15] <eurowerke> ?
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:42] <chowmeined> wow
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:46] <chowmeined> zenoss is awesome
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:53] <eurowerke> what'd you get it to do?
[20-Sep-2007 23:48:56] <eurowerke> I wish I could say the same... grr
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:06] <chowmeined> i didnt realize how nice the backend is
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:11] <chowmeined> i can script _anything_
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:24] <chowmeined> every piece of information is scriptable
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:38] <eurowerke> I just added a DNS entry to the server it's running on and that seems to have caused a bunch of problems
[20-Sep-2007 23:49:54] <chowmeined> yea some things are quirky
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:01] <chowmeined> like.. dont monitor the local machine
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:04] <chowmeined> that never works right
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:13] <eurowerke> how do I disable that?
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:15] <eurowerke> it's weird
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:31] <eurowerke> there's 2 DNS A records for the machine zenoss is running on
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:48] <chowmeined> just delete the localhost device
[20-Sep-2007 23:50:51] <eurowerke> and it somehow started to recognize them both and monitor them both
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:18] <eurowerke> so i think with the conflict of there being 2 different A records for the machine, zenoss freaks and says one is down
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:19] <chowmeined> probably does a dns zone transfer
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:46] <eurowerke> think I'll delete the other one first
[20-Sep-2007 23:51:51] <eurowerke> see if that helps
[20-Sep-2007 23:55:43] <eurowerke> telnet doesn't work for me, z00dax
[20-Sep-2007 23:55:44] <eurowerke> lol
[20-Sep-2007 23:55:54] <eurowerke> disconnects after about 40sec
[20-Sep-2007 23:56:45] <eurowerke> the MTU is set kinda low here... maybe that's why the local client doesn't work
[20-Sep-2007 23:56:54] <z00dax> what ? you cant type PONG fast enough ?
[20-Sep-2007 23:57:10] <eurowerke> while I"m trying to set the parms it just disconnects
[20-Sep-2007 23:57:19] <eurowerke> says timeout
[20-Sep-2007 23:58:38] <z00dax> i bet thats identd thing
[20-Sep-2007 23:58:47] <z00dax> ah well, use irssi or bitchx then
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:27] <eurowerke> using epic on the remote server
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:29] <eurowerke> heh
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:38] <eurowerke> inside this network it surely won't work
[20-Sep-2007 23:59:45] <eurowerke> crazy
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[21-Sep-2007 00:19:56] <Snake-eyes> is there any way to get zenoss to stop phoning home (version 1.1.2) ?
[21-Sep-2007 00:20:19] <z00dax> leave the home phone off the hook
[21-Sep-2007 00:20:34] * z00dax is easily amused
[21-Sep-2007 00:23:51] <z00dax> right, i'll get my coat
[21-Sep-2007 00:56:59] <Snake-eyes> ...
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[21-Sep-2007 04:20:43] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Code Monkey - 19 Sep, 04:04PM
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[21-Sep-2007 04:50:25] <m11> morning all
[21-Sep-2007 04:53:42] <chowmeined> hi
[21-Sep-2007 05:58:22] <m11>
[21-Sep-2007 05:58:26] <m11> sry was afk
[21-Sep-2007 05:58:46] <m11> i am having little troubles in installing zenoss
[21-Sep-2007 05:59:19] <m11> installing simplejson
[21-Sep-2007 05:59:19] <m11> failed to install event tables into MySQL
[21-Sep-2007 06:07:49] <m11> that are last two lines from install
[21-Sep-2007 07:55:05] <m11> i am installing zenoss from svn, but i just cant get it to install mysql event tables, any tips ?
[21-Sep-2007 10:46:18] <m11> hello
[21-Sep-2007 11:17:56] <xinity_mbp> hy al
[21-Sep-2007 11:17:59] <xinity_mbp> all
[21-Sep-2007 11:18:12] <xinity_mbp> anyone uses zenoss to send remote command through ssh ?
[21-Sep-2007 11:31:55] <Freak> whats your problem
[21-Sep-2007 11:32:45] <xinity_mbp> zenoss do the connexion, but it didn't do the command speficied
[21-Sep-2007 11:34:05] <Freak> like.. whats the error message?
[21-Sep-2007 11:40:37] <xinity_mbp> no error
[21-Sep-2007 11:40:42] <xinity_mbp> no output
[21-Sep-2007 11:46:12] <Freak> hum.. how are you sure the connection doesnt fail?
[21-Sep-2007 11:51:37] <xinity_mbp> because i test it command line
[21-Sep-2007 11:51:51] <xinity_mbp> and i can clearly see on the remote log files , the login from zenoss
[21-Sep-2007 12:02:43] <Freak> so when you log in yourself and start whatever command you want to run, what does it do
[21-Sep-2007 12:02:58] <xinity_mbp> i tried this
[21-Sep-2007 12:03:11] <xinity_mbp> log into the zenoss server
[21-Sep-2007 12:03:16] <xinity_mbp> su - zenoss
[21-Sep-2007 12:03:38] <xinity_mbp> used zendcommand for my device and the datasource i've created
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:01] <xinity_mbp> but it execute the command locally
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:17] <xinity_mbp> even if the device is a remote host
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:29] <Freak> I'm not actually a zenoss user yet so I don't know how zenoss sends commands
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:32] <Freak> =)
[21-Sep-2007 12:04:48] <Freak> but the user must be allowed to log in remotely
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:00] <Freak> then mus have sufficient permissions to run the command
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:02] <Freak> +t
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:04] <xinity_mbp> it can
[21-Sep-2007 12:05:11] <xinity_mbp> used a empty ssh key
[21-Sep-2007 12:09:47] <xinity_mbp> oh it seems in command line i don't need to specify the datasource
[21-Sep-2007 12:34:25] <m11> hi all
[21-Sep-2007 12:38:58] <fiXXXerMet> I can't get notifications working. I added a user and did a test email and it worked, but when I add an alert rule (Preferences -> Alerting Rules -> Add Alerting Rule -> 5 sec delay, enabled = true, address (user@domain.tld), action = email, severity >= debug)
[21-Sep-2007 12:39:10] <fiXXXerMet> An info event was thrown over night and I didn't receive anything
[21-Sep-2007 12:51:41] <fiXXXerMet> ok, fixed that.
[21-Sep-2007 12:51:49] <fiXXXerMet> How can I have an email sent to more than 1 user?
[21-Sep-2007 13:13:43] <xinity_mbp> use list fiXXXerMet
[21-Sep-2007 13:13:47] <xinity_mbp> that's what we do here
[21-Sep-2007 13:17:52] <fiXXXerMet> like an aliias?
[21-Sep-2007 13:29:18] <xinity_mbp> yup
[21-Sep-2007 13:30:47] <fiXXXerMet> good idea
[21-Sep-2007 13:38:53] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows what does this mean : WARNING:zen.zencommand:Reconnected to ZenHub ?
[21-Sep-2007 13:39:07] <xinity_mbp> i'm trying to use the check_dns_secondary nagios plugins
[21-Sep-2007 13:39:15] <xinity_mbp> but i fail creating the template
[21-Sep-2007 13:59:59] <xinity_mbp> oh my seems i should build a zenpack
[21-Sep-2007 14:00:19] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows how to test easily a made zenpack ?
[21-Sep-2007 15:25:08] Tinozaure is now known as Tino
[21-Sep-2007 17:25:48] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[21-Sep-2007 18:54:08] <monrad> anyone tried to model a router with hotpluggable cards, and tried to get info about each cards cpu and temperature?
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[21-Sep-2007 20:15:21] <fiXXXerMet> I don't know why but zenoss won't add localhost (the same server that it's running on) anymore. It was working for a while, then I deleted it, went to re-add the server, and now it doesn't work.
[21-Sep-2007 20:15:26] <fiXXXerMet> I can snmpwalk the machine though
[21-Sep-2007 20:41:27] <JordanWilliams> o\
[21-Sep-2007 20:42:37] <JordanWilliams> I'm about to post a thread on the forums, however, i figured i'd ask here before that...
[21-Sep-2007 20:42:50] <JordanWilliams> I've installed Zenoss Core successfully on a ubuntu 6.06 setup
[21-Sep-2007 20:44:24] <JordanWilliams> however, adding devices is giving me some headaches. for some reason, if i try to manually add a device that is valid (using hostname or direct ip) once i hit Add Device, the zenStatus page loads.... sits there for a moment and then is totally blank.
[21-Sep-2007 20:45:01] <JordanWilliams> BUT. if i put "lksdjflksjdflksdjf" in the device name field... zenStatus reports back the obvious
[21-Sep-2007 20:45:19] <JordanWilliams> Time Level Module Message
[21-Sep-2007 20:45:19] <JordanWilliams> 2007-09-21 13:45:08 CRITICAL zen.DeviceLoader No IP found for name asdasdasd
[21-Sep-2007 20:46:27] WilliamUIUC_ is now known as WilliamUIUC
[21-Sep-2007 20:46:55] <hotgrits> Hi JordanWilliams ... this is a quirk with how zendisc works
[21-Sep-2007 20:47:28] <hotgrits> if set to discover via snmp, it will only use snmp to discover ... you will need to either enable snmp on the device
[21-Sep-2007 20:47:42] <hotgrits> ...or set the discovery protocol to 'none
[21-Sep-2007 20:47:56] <JordanWilliams> well see that's another quirk....
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:02] <JordanWilliams> take two hosts for example
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:11] <JordanWilliams> fw01-dtmc.dmccorp.net and web-svc01.dmccorp.net
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:27] <JordanWilliams> both have identical comm strings (identical snmpd.conf files)
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:43] <JordanWilliams> fw01-dtmc will give me a blank zenStatus screen
[21-Sep-2007 20:48:54] <JordanWilliams> web-svc01 works
[21-Sep-2007 20:49:14] <hotgrits> can you snmpwalk fw01-dtmc?
[21-Sep-2007 20:49:18] <JordanWilliams> yep
[21-Sep-2007 20:49:59] <hotgrits> from the zenoss box's command line, correct?
[21-Sep-2007 20:50:53] <JordanWilliams> yes
[21-Sep-2007 20:52:25] <hotgrits> hmm. that should work then. you don't have the fw01-dtmc device already modeled, do you? sometimes if you try to add a device thats already been modeled you'll see this behavior
[21-Sep-2007 20:52:51] <hotgrits> i've made that mistake before
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:18] <JordanWilliams> yeah, that was what i thought too... so i purged the system
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:24] <JordanWilliams> here's the other weird part
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:29] <JordanWilliams> output of event.log
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:53] <JordanWilliams> doesn't even show an attempt to get to fw01-dtmc
[21-Sep-2007 20:53:54] <JordanWilliams> BUT
[21-Sep-2007 20:54:05] <JordanWilliams> it does show the attempt at asdasdasdasd
[21-Sep-2007 20:54:11] * JordanWilliams scratches his head.
[21-Sep-2007 20:54:41] <hotgrits> interesting
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:06] <hotgrits> i wonder if that device is stuck in there somewhere. what method did you use to "purge?"
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:12] <JordanWilliams> and it's somewhat of a disappointment too only because fw01-dtmc is the most critical device on my network
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:13] <JordanWilliams> =)
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:16] <JordanWilliams> for obvious reasons
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:22] <hotgrits> heh
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:27] * hotgrits figured
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:39] <JordanWilliams> well, only through the ui
[21-Sep-2007 20:55:50] <JordanWilliams> let me see what sql says
[21-Sep-2007 20:56:07] <hotgrits> try discovering it from the commandline using zendisc. you might get more clues
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:26] <JordanWilliams> uhm
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:46] <hotgrits> ?
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:49] <JordanWilliams> does zCore store data in flatfile for information about devices/networks/etc?
[21-Sep-2007 20:57:57] <JordanWilliams> sql looks like an event repo
[21-Sep-2007 20:58:16] <hotgrits> yeah, sql is only for events ... most stuff is in the Zope DB
[21-Sep-2007 20:59:33] <JordanWilliams> is there a cmd line tool for doing raw queries?
[21-Sep-2007 21:02:33] <fiXXXerMet> urgh
[21-Sep-2007 21:02:36] <fiXXXerMet> I wish everything were in mysql
[21-Sep-2007 21:03:14] <hotgrits> JordanWilliams: i don't think so
[21-Sep-2007 21:03:41] <hotgrits> fiXXXerMet: yeah, that would be more convenient
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:14] <JordanWilliams> sorry... i'm a little bit of a greenfoot when it comes to the cmd line stuff
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:18] <fiXXXerMet> Do any of you know if mysql can be monitored with snmp?
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:26] <JordanWilliams> how would i use zendisc to find fw01?
[21-Sep-2007 21:04:40] <hotgrits> JordanWilliams: we do have a way of exporting devices in XML
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:06] <hotgrits> and i might have mispoke about zendisc
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:17] <hotgrits> however, this howto might show you what's currently in your database:
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:19] <hotgrits> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/get-a-list-of-device-names/
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:26] <hotgrits> check to see if fw01 is there
[21-Sep-2007 21:10:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Get a List of Device Names - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Sep-2007 21:11:03] <progma> wait, get a list of devices you've already added?
[21-Sep-2007 21:11:09] <hotgrits> yup
[21-Sep-2007 21:13:47] <JordanWilliams> wow
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:04] <JordanWilliams> i have to say, i'm substantially impressed with this software....
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:09] <JordanWilliams> absolutely incredible
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:17] <JordanWilliams> btw... thanks for the support
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:27] <JordanWilliams> it's greatly appreciates
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:30] <hotgrits> np ... its my job
[21-Sep-2007 21:14:31] <JordanWilliams> appreciated too
[21-Sep-2007 21:15:09] <hotgrits> i'll pass your comments on to our developers. thanks!
[21-Sep-2007 21:17:35] <JordanWilliams> so, personal opinion and suggestion..... right now, i'm testing the software. This means i'm going to fill it up with as many devices as i can, make all sorts of changes, etc etc.... would you advise bringing up a new server and building from scratch or is it alright to promote this server to production?
[21-Sep-2007 21:17:50] <JordanWilliams> i guess my question is really about the back end... and if it gets messy.
[21-Sep-2007 21:17:52] <JordanWilliams> =)
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:10] <hotgrits> well, its a good learning experience to bring up a new one, but not necessary
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:27] <hotgrits> when you move to our enterprise model you can keep all your data
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:38] <hotgrits> its a pretty easy upgrade
[21-Sep-2007 21:18:59] <hotgrits> (i hope you're not referring to our 2.1 beta, however!)
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:06] <JordanWilliams> nono =)
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:17] <hotgrits> ok, whew!
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:21] <hotgrits> then you're set
[21-Sep-2007 21:19:22] <JordanWilliams> lol
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:10] <JordanWilliams> and i'm very excited about moving it into our r&d team and letting them get into plugins and extending it's functionality.
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:28] <JordanWilliams> see i run a digital signage network of over 12,500 devices
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:35] <hotgrits> yes, that will be a piece of cake
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:39] <hotgrits> ok, cool
[21-Sep-2007 21:20:47] <hotgrits> we can do that
[21-Sep-2007 21:21:06] <JordanWilliams> that number grows by about 1,500-3,000 systems a month too
[21-Sep-2007 21:21:21] <hotgrits> you must have your hands full!
[21-Sep-2007 21:21:57] <JordanWilliams> but my comment is really the fact that it has been a great challenge to grab data over time metrics with other software packages, strictly from a discovery/management aspect
[21-Sep-2007 21:22:28] <JordanWilliams> so i love the fact our devs can work some backend magic and have zCore automate that process
[21-Sep-2007 21:22:36] <JordanWilliams> yes. very, VERY full.
[21-Sep-2007 21:23:26] <hotgrits> heh
[21-Sep-2007 21:23:45] <hotgrits> yeah, zenoss is a hacker's dream ... you can extend it almost any way you can dream up
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:00] <hotgrits> that's what most impressed me about it ... and still does
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:15] <hotgrits> want to monitor something? zenoss can do it
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:20] <JordanWilliams> can you summarize for me the use of the Status Monitor and Performance Monitor host entry fields when i add devices...
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:25] <JordanWilliams> i haven't quite figured those out
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:36] <JordanWilliams> i agree
[21-Sep-2007 21:24:39] <JordanWilliams> it's great....
[21-Sep-2007 21:25:06] <hotgrits> hmm. not sure myself. i'll have to check those out and get back to you
[21-Sep-2007 21:25:24] <JordanWilliams> i tell my coworkers it's a beautiful mix of cacti and nagios
[21-Sep-2007 21:25:56] <JordanWilliams> all it needs is a little aanval and it's pretty much class leading software
[21-Sep-2007 21:26:55] <hotgrits> wow. kind words there. thanks, again!
[21-Sep-2007 21:27:43] <kgoedtel> i tried to create my own zenpack, but my datapoint is not showing up in the data source
[21-Sep-2007 21:28:18] <kgoedtel> i modified dnsmonitor accordingly and changed time to offest, which is the val in check_ntp... what am i missing :[
[21-Sep-2007 21:28:24] <kgoedtel> offset*
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[21-Sep-2007 21:29:02] <JordanWilliams> if i had one piece of constructive critacism, it would be that the grouping functionality is a little hard to understand
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:08] <JordanWilliams> no the grouping itself
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:14] <JordanWilliams> but all the different types of grouping
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:28] <hotgrits> kgoedtel: unfortunately zenpacks aren't my strong suit. sorry! I'll have to get back to you.
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:47] <JordanWilliams> classes vs locations vs devices vs etc etc
[21-Sep-2007 21:29:57] <hotgrits> JordanWilliams: criticism is always welcome. how would you like to see it?
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:08] <JordanWilliams> not sure... i'd have to think about it really
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:20] <JordanWilliams> zCore is a very steep learning curve
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:31] <hotgrits> perhaps the ability to define groups and then the hierarchy below them?
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:39] <JordanWilliams> maybe a dumbed down interface for beginners?
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:42] <hotgrits> true
[21-Sep-2007 21:30:56] <hotgrits> well, the 2.1 interface is an improvement, i think
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:03] <hotgrits> though I haven't spent much time with it yet
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:20] <JordanWilliams> yeah... i'm trying to learn this... then jump into 2.1 and see what is going on
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:31] <JordanWilliams> hmmm
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:36] <JordanWilliams> gotta go for a meeting
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:48] <JordanWilliams> btw.... zendisc found fw01-dtmc
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:52] <JordanWilliams> o_O
[21-Sep-2007 21:31:56] <JordanWilliams> lol
[21-Sep-2007 21:32:54] <hotgrits> heh
[21-Sep-2007 21:32:57] <hotgrits> ok
[21-Sep-2007 21:33:11] <hotgrits> y'all have a good weekend!
[21-Sep-2007 21:57:53] <progma> JordanWilliams: aanval?
[21-Sep-2007 23:04:43] <JordanWilliams> progma: it's a SNORT frontend
[21-Sep-2007 23:12:58] <progma> ohhh
[21-Sep-2007 23:13:06] <progma> like acidbase ?
[21-Sep-2007 23:13:51] <progma> sorry i've used sourcefire defense center and snort by cmd line but haven't tried the oss snort guis yet
[21-Sep-2007 23:15:16] <progma> i like cisco mars because it can do what you are talking about, but it is ridiculous cost and if zenoss can incorporate alerting based on snort rules, wow
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[22-Sep-2007 00:53:42] <JordanWilliams> quick question... the VMappliance with Zenoss preinstalled knows all about HW and SW IDs... and the stock installation of zenoss i compiled does not.
[22-Sep-2007 00:53:58] <JordanWilliams> is there a download or something that contains all that information? or is that more privileged for paying customers?
[22-Sep-2007 00:56:41] <chowmeined> it didnt come with the snmp mibs?
[22-Sep-2007 00:58:08] <JordanWilliams> i'm talking about when you add a device... it has all the manufacturers and models already in the drop down menus
[22-Sep-2007 00:58:21] <JordanWilliams> or is my installation missing that stuff?
[22-Sep-2007 01:00:28] <chowmeined> oh
[22-Sep-2007 01:00:44] <chowmeined> im not sure
[22-Sep-2007 01:54:52] <brandon> Hello everyone
[22-Sep-2007 01:56:14] <brandon> does anyone know if it is possible to get zenperfsnmp to poll hardware elements?
[22-Sep-2007 01:58:50] <chowmeined> example?
[22-Sep-2007 01:59:28] <chowmeined> like raid statistics? fan speed? power usage?
[22-Sep-2007 02:10:11] <brandon> ya
[22-Sep-2007 02:10:58] <chowmeined> you can create a graph using the templates and give it an OID to poll
[22-Sep-2007 02:11:07] <brandon> I have a collecter plugin that extents the DeviceHW class
[22-Sep-2007 02:11:39] <brandon> When I model my server I see the new elements I added in the 'Hardware' tab
[22-Sep-2007 02:12:18] <brandon> and I added a performance template to these elements with the appropriate oids and what not
[22-Sep-2007 02:13:11] <brandon> but I suspect that the HW class does not have the proper methods to work with zensnmpperf
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[22-Sep-2007 05:50:56] <brandon> Anyone ever had problems with zenoss/zope not compiling .pyc's?
[22-Sep-2007 06:01:42] <chowmeined> i thought it came with pyo?
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[22-Sep-2007 09:45:55] <xinity_mbp> hy guys
[22-Sep-2007 09:45:59] <xinity_mbp> sorry to bother
[22-Sep-2007 09:46:35] <xinity_mbp> but i'm trying to use some nagios plugins , like check_dns_secondary.pl , but i don't know how to do it
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[23-Sep-2007 07:23:51] <impactX> anyone around?
[23-Sep-2007 18:06:46] <xinity_mbp> hy al
[23-Sep-2007 18:07:29] <xinity_mbp> i've read that zenoss build it's own layer 3 dependencies rules based on route tables , but does zenoss handle alert escalation ?
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[24-Sep-2007 08:00:41] <Folke> Hi there, what dist do you guys think is the first choice to run zenoss on..
[24-Sep-2007 08:01:32] <Folke> I am an old debian user.. But it seems that zenoss likes it best on a rpm based dist.. Like CentOS or sumfink like thata?
[24-Sep-2007 11:32:57] <Freak> the build script actually does a 'uname' to determine the OS, finds OpenBSD, decides it's the same as SunOS ("++ '[' OpenBSD = SunOS ']'") and therefore runs "++ ps -Ao pid,command" which then results in "unknown option -- A"
[24-Sep-2007 11:33:10] <Freak> sweet.
[24-Sep-2007 11:33:23] <Freak> anywho.. I consider this a bit of a bug then
[24-Sep-2007 11:35:15] <Freak> looks like that's in install-functions.sh
[24-Sep-2007 11:35:54] <Freak> I think I got the bash debug output wrong
[24-Sep-2007 11:50:16] <Freak> so it just tests wether OpenBSD=SunOS but then it does ps -Ao anyways, which doesnt exist on obsd.
[24-Sep-2007 11:50:22] <Freak> I mean -A
[24-Sep-2007 12:07:19] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[24-Sep-2007 12:07:40] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows why after installing a homemade zenpack , i can't add any datasource ?
[24-Sep-2007 12:38:59] <xinity_mbp> nobody knows ?
[24-Sep-2007 12:39:00] <xinity_mbp>
[24-Sep-2007 13:05:05] <bkingx> Greetings!! Quick question: can Zenoss run under windows via cygwin or some other method?
[24-Sep-2007 13:12:37] <xinity_mbp> damned !
[24-Sep-2007 13:12:50] <xinity_mbp> can't get my zenpack available
[24-Sep-2007 13:13:02] <xinity_mbp> zenoss locks on loading screen
[24-Sep-2007 13:42:15] <bkingx> NM...found this:
[24-Sep-2007 13:42:16] <bkingx> Does Zenoss run on Windows ?
[24-Sep-2007 13:42:16] <bkingx> Zenoss is able to be installed and run in a Windows environment. This is accomplished using the VMplayer from vmware.com, and the Zenoss Virtual Appliance. For more information about installing Zenoss using the VMplayer, see the Zenoss Quick Start Guide.
[24-Sep-2007 13:44:29] <bzed> bkingx: I'd rather shoot myself then to try to run zope in windows
[24-Sep-2007 13:45:08] <bkingx> LOL...agreed. Especially when there is a VM already built.
[24-Sep-2007 13:45:36] <bkingx> What do you think is the performance impact of running it 24x7 in a VM environ?
[24-Sep-2007 13:46:25] <Freak> I fail on installing zenoss on openbsd because of rrdtool
[24-Sep-2007 14:27:01] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows how to fix zenoss zenpacks ? someone here have a fake one and it seems this has broken zenpack handling
[24-Sep-2007 14:27:38] <fiXXXerMet> Do any of you monitor MySQL health with zenoss / snmp?
[24-Sep-2007 14:27:48] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a plugin or a pack or a list of MIBs or somethign?
[24-Sep-2007 14:46:31] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[24-Sep-2007 14:46:57] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows how to clean zenoss database from a corrupted zenpack ?
[24-Sep-2007 14:47:18] <xinity_mbp> if i can't clean the zenoss DB i won't be able to add other zenpacks
[24-Sep-2007 14:59:08] <fiXXXerMet> For remote sites, should I add machines by IP or Hostname? I'd like to use hostname for ease-of-reference, but it seems like that (dns) could be a bottleneck
[24-Sep-2007 15:15:46] <hotgrits> fiXXXerMet: either one will work. You can add by IP and then change the name of the device. Zenoss will continue to use the IP to poll it
[24-Sep-2007 15:16:33] <hotgrits> zinity_mbp: i'm afraid there's no easy to do this. for this reason I highly recommend you back up $ZENHOME before installing any zenpacks.
[24-Sep-2007 15:16:55] <kgoedtel> i still can't get my zenpack to work either
[24-Sep-2007 15:16:56] <kgoedtel> :[
[24-Sep-2007 15:17:17] <kgoedtel> the datapoint never shows up in the datasource
[24-Sep-2007 15:17:36] <kgoedtel> and no errors getting logged
[24-Sep-2007 15:18:06] <fiXXXerMet> hotgrits: thanks.
[24-Sep-2007 15:46:51] <JordanWilliams> good morning people
[24-Sep-2007 15:47:01] <JordanWilliams> i trust people had a good weekend
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[24-Sep-2007 16:45:27] <fiXXXerMet> Why is it that I can only snmpwalk localhost, and not hostname, hostname.localdomain, or ip.ad.dr.ess?
[24-Sep-2007 16:45:54] <fiXXXerMet> My /etc/hosts file contains 127.0.0.1 localhost and 192.168.0.13 tvilnx01.tvicorp.com tvilnx01
[24-Sep-2007 16:46:08] <fiXXXerMet> If I add 127.0.0.1 tvilnx01.tvicorp.com tvilnx01 then it works
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:36] <xinity_mbp> yes !!!
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:41] <xinity_mbp> i've done my first zenpack
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:47] <xinity_mbp> and you know what ?
[24-Sep-2007 16:54:50] <xinity_mbp> it works !!!
[24-Sep-2007 16:55:08] <fiXXXerMet> !!
[24-Sep-2007 16:57:57] <kgoedtel> heh me too, after i clicked the damn save button
[24-Sep-2007 16:58:29] <kgoedtel> how was i supposed to know that the datapoint doesnt show up until you click save? :[
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:12] <xinity_mbp> lol kgoedtel
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:20] <xinity_mbp> what kind of zenpack have you made ?
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:26] <kgoedtel> one for ntp
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:35] <kgoedtel> monitoring
[24-Sep-2007 17:03:52] <xinity_mbp> kgoedtel: will you share it or not ? (just to know if i should make my own
)[24-Sep-2007 17:04:16] <kgoedtel> well i didnt really do much for it, i just made minor changes to the dnsmonitor zenpack
[24-Sep-2007 17:04:25] <xinity_mbp> me too
[24-Sep-2007 17:05:06] <xinity_mbp> i'll start making one for my neo2000 backup system
[24-Sep-2007 17:05:44] <kgoedtel> i can give it to you if you wish
[24-Sep-2007 17:05:51] <xinity_mbp> sure i would;)
[24-Sep-2007 17:07:56] <xinity_mbp> by the way , the helloworld zenpack is really usefull
[24-Sep-2007 17:08:26] <kgoedtel> i will probably check that out next, i just wanted to get my feet wet
[24-Sep-2007 17:08:58] <kgoedtel> i also want to learn how to do custom mibs/oids... then i will be satisfied with zenoss
[24-Sep-2007 17:10:32] <xinity_mbp> kgoedtel: wow this is harder than learning python
[24-Sep-2007 17:10:44] <xinity_mbp> it needs a high level in hardware comprehension
[24-Sep-2007 17:14:49] <xinity_mbp> got to go home , take to ya later on guys
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[24-Sep-2007 19:10:59] <MoreDakka_> Can Zenoss be setup to error on 60% of packet loss?
[24-Sep-2007 19:25:50] <kgoedtel> yep
[24-Sep-2007 19:26:02] <kgoedtel> make a zenpack using check_ping
[24-Sep-2007 19:26:15] <kgoedtel> or a command
[24-Sep-2007 19:27:27] <slimmpete123> Hello all I am intrested in finding out how I can change the zenoss snmp poll rate?
[24-Sep-2007 19:28:23] <slimmpete123> I have not been able to find where this would be changed?
[24-Sep-2007 19:29:51] <terander> Hi all :-) I've successfully installed 2.0.6 on Ubunty Feisty using the installation guide, but I can't get the discovery function to work....
[24-Sep-2007 19:30:03] <terander> anyone who can shed some light on how I can solve this?
[24-Sep-2007 19:33:00] <hotgrits> terander: how is it failing?
[24-Sep-2007 19:40:09] <hotgrits> slimmpete123: you can change the interval under the Monitor page. Click on the performance monitor and change the Process Cycle Interval (secs).
[24-Sep-2007 19:40:52] <hotgrits> be advised that the rrd's that zenoss uses are set to a 5 min interval, so you must first delete your existing performance history and start from scratch if you want to change this inteval. got it?
[24-Sep-2007 19:43:27] <slimmpete123> Yes I am looking into it now
[24-Sep-2007 19:55:50] <terander> hotgrits: Dunno - I'm new to zenoss (my first install), but I can't find anything in the logs, as far as I can see, that indicates the problem...
[24-Sep-2007 20:00:17] <terander> I've added a router which zenoss successfully enumerates, I then go to the network view, selects a network and chooses Discover from the drop-down menu - nothing happens
[24-Sep-2007 20:14:07] <terander> OK, I used this from the docs: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net=x.x.x.x
[24-Sep-2007 20:14:52] <terander> that's the command I overlooked - can't wait to see zenoss with data to analyze
[24-Sep-2007 20:47:39] <MoreDakka_> So I'm trying to install 2.1 beta and it needs mysql-server-standard 5.0.22 and mysql-client-standard 5.0.22. I can get mysql-server&client-community 5.0.22 but can't find the standard....zenoss doesn't like the community, needs to be standard, anyone know where I can get that for CentOS4?
[24-Sep-2007 21:12:45] <hotgrits> MoreDakka: i believe the standard mysql packages will work. Does it insist on 'standard?'
[24-Sep-2007 21:22:02] <MoreDakka_> It insists on Standard.
[24-Sep-2007 21:22:18] <MoreDakka_> I've got community installed right now and it still says dependency failed.
[24-Sep-2007 21:22:29] <MoreDakka_> for client/server-standard.
[24-Sep-2007 21:27:34] <MoreDakka_> any ideas?
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[24-Sep-2007 21:59:43] <b52lap> ppl anyone have successed to do realtime monitoring 5/10s ? (yeah yeah the question is a little bit stupid ..... )
[24-Sep-2007 22:02:29] <monrad> 5/10s?
[24-Sep-2007 22:02:56] <MoreDakka_> wow...that's a big server with a big connection
[24-Sep-2007 22:03:35] <b52lap> i mean rrd graphs are upload every 5 minute by default , it cas be modified to 60s , could we do less than that ?
[24-Sep-2007 22:04:25] <MoreDakka_> So I'm trying to install 2.1 beta and it needs mysql-server-standard 5.0.22 and mysql-client-standard 5.0.22. I can get mysql-server&client-community 5.0.22 but can't find the standard....zenoss doesn't like the community, needs to be standard, anyone know where I can get that for CentOS4?
[24-Sep-2007 22:05:02] <kgoedtel> you cant get it through pkg management?
[24-Sep-2007 22:05:19] <MoreDakka_> like yum?
[24-Sep-2007 22:05:29] <MoreDakka_> yum wants to install 4.1.x mysql-server
[24-Sep-2007 22:06:00] <kgoedtel> ahh right centos4
[24-Sep-2007 22:06:41] <b52lap> monrad, :d
[24-Sep-2007 22:07:18] <kgoedtel> x86 or x86_64?
[24-Sep-2007 22:08:25] <monrad> ah i dont want that it takes 15-20 secs to do all 920 devices right now
[24-Sep-2007 22:08:56] <kgoedtel> you can change the polling interval, but ... uhm if you have a lot of devices that is a really bad idea
[24-Sep-2007 22:09:41] <kgoedtel> MoreDakka_: http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-5.0/MySQL-server-5.0.45-0.glibc23.i386.rpm/from/pick#mirrors
[24-Sep-2007 22:09:51] <b52lap> monrad, so for all the 920 devices graphs are generated under 20s ? hmm nice , what the spec of the machine (the monster
) ?[24-Sep-2007 22:09:55] <adytum-bot> Title: MySQL AB :: Select a Mirror (at dev.mysql.com)
[24-Sep-2007 22:10:19] <monrad> b52lap: enough ram is the tricky bit
[24-Sep-2007 22:11:01] <monrad> 4 gb ram right now, dual 3.2 ghz xeons with rrd files on a hp eva san
[24-Sep-2007 22:11:31] <monrad> 2 gb ram gave os a polling time of 250-450 secs
[24-Sep-2007 22:11:47] <monrad> i am really looking forward to the next version of rrdtools
[24-Sep-2007 22:12:41] <b52lap> nice!!! , so you have a beautifulll dashroad
! .... [24-Sep-2007 22:18:56] <MoreDakka_> Has anyone ever said that installing software on linux is like ripping out your hair?
[24-Sep-2007 22:19:24] <monrad> MoreDakka_: every tried xp
[24-Sep-2007 22:19:42] <MoreDakka_> Usually the installer in XP has all the software required to get it going.
[24-Sep-2007 22:21:21] <monrad> well i am kinda used to linux
[24-Sep-2007 22:21:35] <monrad> i have not used windows for 6-7 years now
[24-Sep-2007 22:24:43] <MoreDakka_> Sorry if I'm coming across as a little pissy but zenoss 2.1 requires mysql-server-standard, mysql-server-standard requires libmysqlclient.so.15, tried to find that and I could only find it for FC6 or FC7 not for FC4 (CentOS4)....this happens almost anytime that yum can't find something and I have to try to do it manually.
[24-Sep-2007 22:24:45] <MoreDakka_> bah.
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[24-Sep-2007 23:05:11] <kgoedtel> MoreDakka_: you never answered me question
[24-Sep-2007 23:05:27] <kgoedtel> whether your server was x86 or x86_64
[24-Sep-2007 23:32:21] <monrad> i get some weird errors from zenperfsnmp on x86_64
[24-Sep-2007 23:50:55] <monrad> bzed: got packages soon
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[25-Sep-2007 00:02:27] <bzed> monrad: working on it
[25-Sep-2007 00:02:43] <bzed> I hope to get the next beta into experimental
[25-Sep-2007 00:02:46] <bzed> outlook is good so far
[25-Sep-2007 00:03:01] <bzed> at least opcyright-wise
[25-Sep-2007 00:03:05] <monrad> bzed: i was not expecting any reponse tonight
[25-Sep-2007 00:06:02] <monrad> but i am looking forward to testing it
[25-Sep-2007 00:08:32] <monrad> bzed: you were from germany right?
[25-Sep-2007 00:23:26] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: if you've got MySQL 5.0.22 or above installed, you can do a -nodeps on the rpm -i install. I don't think you'll run into any issues if you use the community MySQL 5.0.22 server.
[25-Sep-2007 00:33:20] <bzed> monrad: yeah, I am
[25-Sep-2007 00:33:30] <bzed> monrad: that's why I'm on my way to bed now
[25-Sep-2007 00:33:31] <bzed> n8n8
[25-Sep-2007 00:34:04] <monrad> night
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[25-Sep-2007 09:03:46] <Freak> is it correct that after a fresh installation (2.0.6-0 on debian unstable) zope isnt started?
[25-Sep-2007 09:27:58] <Robbadub> Can you start it?
[25-Sep-2007 10:43:40] <Marc2> hello
[25-Sep-2007 10:44:09] <Marc2> i need help with a clean install of zenoss if anyone is around
[25-Sep-2007 10:44:53] <Marc2> the html files dont look to be getting populated into /var/www/html directory
[25-Sep-2007 11:52:54] <Freak> Marc2: zenoss uses zope as webserver
[25-Sep-2007 11:53:40] <Freak> it has _its own webserver_, it doesnt use apache (hence doesnt write to /var/www/whatsoever
[25-Sep-2007 11:53:44] <Freak> )
[25-Sep-2007 12:12:52] <Marc2> ok thanks
[25-Sep-2007 12:13:31] <Marc2> ive posted the output to the zenoss user forums
[25-Sep-2007 12:13:37] <Marc2> mwilliams
[25-Sep-2007 12:17:14] <Marc2> well that was simple, all works now. i had apache listen on 8080 as well :-)
[25-Sep-2007 13:34:47] <hotgrits> good morning, all
[25-Sep-2007 14:45:38] <Bulwinkle> holy hell, is that you chet? (cluther)
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:06] <cluther> AFAIK!
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:16] <cluther> How're things here in IRC land?
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:17] <Bulwinkle> hahah, welcome back!
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:23] <Bulwinkle> same ol' same ol'
[25-Sep-2007 14:46:45] <Bulwinkle> trying to help out the noobs
[25-Sep-2007 14:47:27] <Bulwinkle> cluther: getting ready to upgrade my development box to 2.0.90
[25-Sep-2007 14:47:44] <cluther> Cool.. there's some good stuff in there.
[25-Sep-2007 14:48:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther: some of the stuff my team has been looking forward to (especially the mapping)
[25-Sep-2007 14:48:43] <Bulwinkle> cluther: the pretty pictures may even get my boss to look at getting some kind of supported version....
[25-Sep-2007 14:49:00] <cluther> It's funny how that works.
[25-Sep-2007 14:50:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: we spent so much money on HP Openworks to just end up scrapping it later. I think he is a little gunshy
[25-Sep-2007 14:50:40] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You can tell him that he's not alone.
[25-Sep-2007 14:50:53] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I've heard the same story so many times regarding HPOV.
[25-Sep-2007 14:51:26] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I've got a couple of open tickets (zenoss user of course)... can you have a look at one in particular for me? (1973) when you get a chance and see what you think?
[25-Sep-2007 14:51:53] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I came up with a fix that works for me but I just want to make sure my logic is right
[25-Sep-2007 14:56:37] <cluther> It makes sense.. the first column from the ifAlias table should be used as the id for Catalyst interfaces?
[25-Sep-2007 14:59:51] <jfnormand> Hello
[25-Sep-2007 15:00:16] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah... it works for me. the only problem is I don't get my description now.
[25-Sep-2007 15:02:25] <Bulwinkle> cluther: fingers crossed - executing the upgrade now
[25-Sep-2007 15:03:14] <jfnormand> I'm currently evaluating Zenoss, and I search how to auto-discover CPU Usage and Memory usage
[25-Sep-2007 15:06:54] <hotgrits> jfnormand: zenoss polls performance data for CPU and memory automatically
[25-Sep-2007 15:07:20] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It turns out that there's already a data collector plugin that does what you want with the ifAlias. It's the InterfaceAliasMap.
[25-Sep-2007 15:07:44] <MoreDakka_> cluther, nice to see you ;-) Hope everything is going well (a little sucking up before the actual question ;-) )
[25-Sep-2007 15:08:27] <MoreDakka_> So I'm trying to install 2.1 beta and it needs mysql-server-standard 5.0.22 and mysql-client-standard 5.0.22. I can get mysql-server&client-community 5.0.22 but can't find the standard....zenoss doesn't like the community, needs to be standard, how can I get around that or find standard for centos4?
[25-Sep-2007 15:11:14] <Marc2> those are part of the zenoss-deps-el4.i386.tar.bz2 for centos 4 ?
[25-Sep-2007 15:13:05] <cluther> Marc2: Right.. MoreDakka, are you using RHEL/CentOS 4 or 5?
[25-Sep-2007 15:14:00] <MoreDakka_> CentOS4. I'm looking for that download right now, didn't see it earlier.
[25-Sep-2007 15:14:49] <jfnormand> hotgrits well i does not works for me
, so normaly the CPU usage appears in the device OS tabs ?[25-Sep-2007 15:14:52] <Marc2> its under downloads on the zenoss page
[25-Sep-2007 15:15:09] <Marc2> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-deps-el4.i386.tar.bz2
[25-Sep-2007 15:15:38] <MoreDakka_> yep, just clicked on it as you posted that ;-) Thanks, I'll give this a try :-D
[25-Sep-2007 15:21:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: how does zenoss determine which plugin to use when it gets ahold of a device? seems like it should automatically select that to me...
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:11] <cluther> It is chosen from the device class' zCollectorPlugins property. So you'd use the InterfaceAliasMap instead of the InterfaceMap on your Catalyst device class.
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:20] <hotgrits> jfnormand: it appears under the Perf tab
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:45] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: you can use the Centos MySQL rpm
[25-Sep-2007 15:22:46] <Bulwinkle> cluther: aaaaah... not all of my Cisco devices, just the catalysts?
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:00] <cluther> yeah.. Cisco IOS devices should use the normal InterfaceMap.
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:11] <Bulwinkle> cluther: let me try that....
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:21] <slimmpete123> hello
[25-Sep-2007 15:23:25] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: if you've already installed MySQL 5.0.22, you can do "rpm -i -nodeps zenoss*.rpm"
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:19] <MoreDakka_> What does nodeps do?
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:29] <slimmpete123> rpm -ihv --nodeps zenoss*.rpm
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:32] <slimmpete123> try that
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:35] <kgoedte1> installs without server component
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:38] <hotgrits> ya
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:41] * hotgrits meant that
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:55] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: nodeps tells rpm to ignore a package's dependencies
[25-Sep-2007 15:24:57] <slimmpete123> You are ignoring dependences
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:32] <MoreDakka_> I just removed the mysql community ones and installed the mysql-standards from the zenoss website.....yay all working now.
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:38] <progma> i've had to do that for my zenoss install since i'm in rhel4 with an existing mysql server install
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:39] <MoreDakka_> you guys are my heroes!!
[25-Sep-2007 15:25:45] <slimmpete123> You have mysql installed from a precompiled tar.gz
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:20] <hotgrits> MoreDakka_: glad I could help
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:32] <slimmpete123> mysql.5.+ needs not to be comopiled
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:36] <slimmpete123> compiled*
[25-Sep-2007 15:26:55] <slimmpete123> No Problem
[25-Sep-2007 15:27:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when are you guys gonna fix the permissioning on zensocket
[25-Sep-2007 15:27:40] <slimmpete123> Okay can I have a zenoss wizard help me out? How do i clear all events?
[25-Sep-2007 15:28:07] <kgoedte1> drop your events db and restore the schema?
[25-Sep-2007 15:30:43] <cluther> slimmpete123: From the MySQL prompt..
[25-Sep-2007 15:30:46] <cluther> slimmpete123: delete from status;
[25-Sep-2007 15:30:51] <cluther> slimmpete123: delete from history;
[25-Sep-2007 15:34:04] <xeor> Just installed zenoss on debian. But when I try to connect to it on :8100/zport/dmd I got nothing web related. If I telnet to it I got stuff like "♦Z303", whats wrong?
[25-Sep-2007 15:34:19] <xeor> Port 8080 was already in use, but I dont think that may be the problem
[25-Sep-2007 15:34:41] <cluther> xeor: The Zope database runs on port 8100.. you definitely can't use that one for the web interface.
[25-Sep-2007 15:35:40] <xeor> ahhh... I did an netstat -plunta | grep python, and saw port 8100 and squid on 8080, so I tought it was smart enoug to choose another port when that one was taken
[25-Sep-2007 15:35:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: looks like the upgrade from 2.0.5 to 2.0.90 didn't get the database right. I just dropped my events database, is there a script that will create everything I need?
[25-Sep-2007 15:36:13] <xeor> But that makes perfect sense.. But why dont it use the mysql database It asked about when I runned setup?
[25-Sep-2007 15:37:24] <xeor> cluther: Thanks! But can I just change the port in zope.conf to get it working?
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:15] <cluther> xeor: It uses the Zope database and MySQL for different purposes. If you must change the Zope port, use the "port-base" value in the zope.conf to do so.
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:27] <xeor> thanks
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:34] <cluther> Bulwinkle: On the database schema.. sort of..
[25-Sep-2007 15:38:58] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Go into your $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/db directory.
[25-Sep-2007 15:39:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Then..
[25-Sep-2007 15:39:09] <cluther> Bulwinkle: mysql -u root -p < zenevents.sql
[25-Sep-2007 15:39:15] <cluther> mysql -u root -p < zenprocs.sql
[25-Sep-2007 15:40:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: no stored procedures?
[25-Sep-2007 15:40:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Those are in the zenprocs.sql
[25-Sep-2007 15:46:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: down to just one process not starting ... zenhhub
[25-Sep-2007 15:48:15] <Bulwinkle> cool... got it
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:02] <Marc2> zenmib is barfing
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:12] <Marc2> zenmib run CISCO-BGP4-MIB.my
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:33] <cluther> Marc2: Don't specify any command line options to zenmib after run.
[25-Sep-2007 15:51:51] <cluther> Marc2: Just stick the MIB file into $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site and it will find it for you.. including any dependencies if possible.
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:04] <Marc2> ok
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:33] <Marc2> still barfing
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:41] <Marc2> complains that
[25-Sep-2007 15:52:54] <Marc2> line 13: /bin/zenfunctions
[25-Sep-2007 15:53:01] <Marc2> no such file
[25-Sep-2007 15:54:06] <Marc2> think its permissions, i cant run zenfunctions from the command line
[25-Sep-2007 15:55:07] <Marc2> fixed it, i was root not zenoss user
[25-Sep-2007 16:00:58] <progma> where's a good place to start looking for setting up alerting
[25-Sep-2007 16:01:32] <kgoedte1> can anyone recommend some good documents for doing custom OIDs since I am reading that using exec or extend produces strings which zenoss can't use for trending
[25-Sep-2007 16:03:00] <kgoedte1> progma: preferences -> alerting rules
[25-Sep-2007 16:14:44] <MoreDakka_> nice network map in 2.1 beta ;-)
[25-Sep-2007 16:15:47] <progma> ^
[25-Sep-2007 16:15:49] <progma> i was just looking at that and the goolge maps mashup
[25-Sep-2007 16:16:50] <MoreDakka_> that's interesting as well. Is there a way to put an address per device rather then creating locations and having one device in one location? I'm thinking not, cause if you want to put something else at that location later...
[25-Sep-2007 16:18:30] <progma> not sure, i'm still a zenoss noob
[25-Sep-2007 16:18:53] <MoreDakka_> ;-) I'm quite new as well...I jumped on at v1.1.1
[25-Sep-2007 16:21:37] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Everyone is a Zenoss newb.
[25-Sep-2007 16:22:06] <cluther> And you do need to create a location for every location you want mapped on the google map
[25-Sep-2007 16:22:25] <MoreDakka_> alright, that's fine...makes more sense that way.
[25-Sep-2007 16:23:00] <MoreDakka_> while I have you here, I just added 3 devices, 2 servers (10.10.10.20, 10.10.10.123) and their gateway (10.10.10.1) but in the network map the gateway isn't showing at all.
[25-Sep-2007 16:23:53] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Make sure that the interfaces of all three were modeled properly on the OS tab.
[25-Sep-2007 16:24:00] <MoreDakka_> Also, in the network map, is it possible to have a drop down box for "Selected Device or Network" to select the networks instead of manually typing it in?
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:06] <MoreDakka_> Ah, yes, the gw doesn't seem to be populating :-/
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:11] <cluther> MoreDakka_: It would be possible, but a lot of Zenoss installations have a LOT of devices so we used the partial match.
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:15] <slimmpete123> Does anyone have any good information on configuring net-snmpd to work as an agent and only send traps?
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:17] <cluther> MoreDakka_: You don't have to type the whole name.
[25-Sep-2007 16:25:43] <cluther> slimmpete123: Stick a line in your snmpd.conf that reads "trapsink <IP of management station>"
[25-Sep-2007 16:26:12] <slimmpete123> Okay is that all?
[25-Sep-2007 16:26:14] <MoreDakka_> What about a search for device or a drop down for networks?
[25-Sep-2007 16:26:34] <MoreDakka_> and/or
[25-Sep-2007 16:27:27] <slimmpete123> I did that and created situation where my partition was 100% full and never received a trap
[25-Sep-2007 16:27:34] <slimmpete123>
[25-Sep-2007 16:28:21] <cluther> slimmpete123: I suppose I should have mentioned that Net-SNMP doesn't send useful traps.
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:22] <cluther> slimmpete123: As far as I know the only traps that a normal Net-SNMP agent will send are when the agent restarts and when interfaces go up and down.
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:23] <MoreDakka_> cluther, I think I have an error here. http://pastebin.ca/710526
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:31] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 710526 (at pastebin.ca)
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:51] <MoreDakka_> Got that when I tried to force a remodel
[25-Sep-2007 16:29:58] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Indeed.. what kind of device is this?
[25-Sep-2007 16:30:08] <MoreDakka_> cisco 871 router
[25-Sep-2007 16:30:45] <MoreDakka_> it's under the /Network/Router/Cisco
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:03] <MoreDakka_> populates no problem in v1.1.1
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:12] <MoreDakka_> ;-) oldschool
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:34] <cluther> Surprising.. that section of the InterfaceMap hasn't changed.
[25-Sep-2007 16:31:49] <cluther> I recall someone posting this same issue to the users forum somewhat recently.
[25-Sep-2007 16:32:09] <MoreDakka_> Should I create a bug report? (never done that before)./
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:37] <slimmpete123> Is there a better agent for traps?
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:38] <cluther> Could you pastebin an snmpwalk of .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.21.1 on this device?
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:51] <MoreDakka_> sure, hold on.
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:56] <cluther> slimmpete123: Some of the big vendor extensions like Dell's OpenManage and HP's Insight Management Agent do better.
[25-Sep-2007 16:33:56] <slimmpete123> Okay
[25-Sep-2007 16:34:27] <slimmpete123> possibly opensource? or free
[25-Sep-2007 16:34:28] <slimmpete123> LOL
[25-Sep-2007 16:34:45] <cluther> slimmpete123: Afraid not.
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:18] <progma> dell's omsa is free i thought
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:36] <MoreDakka_> cluther, there is too much sensitive information in that walk for me to post it.
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:42] <cluther> progma: You can definitely download it for free. I think the gotcha is that it only reports on Dell hardware.
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:44] <slimmpete123> Okay I am looking into it
[25-Sep-2007 16:35:55] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Would you mind emailing it to me? cluther@zenoss.com
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:04] <slimmpete123> Ahhhh well we have dell servers
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:16] <cluther> slimmpete123: Bingo!
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:16] <progma> it modifies snmpd heaviliy upon install and gives you lots of ipmi info avail via snmp
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:27] <MoreDakka_> cluther: I'll have to run this past my boss to make sure it's all right
[25-Sep-2007 16:36:55] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Understandal.e
[25-Sep-2007 16:37:02] <progma> cluther: yes, dell afaik
[25-Sep-2007 16:37:05] <slimmpete123> so thats good but even when setting up net-snmpd with the --with-mib-modules=\disman/event\ it still gave me errors
[25-Sep-2007 16:37:16] <slimmpete123> well I recompiled net-snmpd
[25-Sep-2007 16:41:18] <MoreDakka_> cluther, I've sent off the request and will get back to you as soon as he gets back to me ;-) thanks.
[25-Sep-2007 16:44:15] <MoreDakka_> cluther: In 2.1 (I'm not sure if it's like this in 2.0.x) on the dashboard it doesn't seem that I can add Systems in there anymore. has that been removed?
[25-Sep-2007 16:45:10] <cluther> It has been changed a bit. If you add an item to one of the "Watch List" portlets, you can start typing /Systems and it will allow you to add systems that you're interested in watching.
[25-Sep-2007 16:50:27] <MoreDakka_>
Doesn't list them like it used to.[25-Sep-2007 16:52:00] <MoreDakka_> Will the google maps applet only show what is in /locations? if I create a location /companyname/townname (townname has the address) doesn't show up in google maps. Is that the way it should be?
[25-Sep-2007 16:54:50] <cluther> MoreDakka_: The google map doesn't look at the name of the location. It looks for the Address field specified within each location.
[25-Sep-2007 16:55:00] <cluther> Click the little [Edit] next to the address inside your locations.
[25-Sep-2007 17:09:16] <MoreDakka_> cluther, in /companyname/townname under townname I have an address that works when it's in /locations but if it move townname to /locations/comanyname it doesn't show up in google maps anymore.
[25-Sep-2007 17:10:05] <cluther> MoreDakka_: If you go to the companyname location and click the Map tab, you should see all sub-locations.
[25-Sep-2007 17:10:21] <cluther> The google map view will only go one level deep.
[25-Sep-2007 17:10:37] <cluther> You can set the base location by editing the map portlet on the dashboard.
[25-Sep-2007 17:14:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: no wonder you stayed away from IRC for a while... you get jumped on when you come around
[25-Sep-2007 17:14:43] <cluther> I'm working on a radiation program to try to grow extra arms and eyes.
[25-Sep-2007 17:14:58] <MoreDakka_> haha
[25-Sep-2007 17:15:39] <MoreDakka_> cluther: My boss has denied sending those logs. I could put x's where the ip's are if you'd like...but that would make the snmpwalk a big set of x's
[25-Sep-2007 17:16:22] <cluther> MoreDakka_: hmm.. ok, do that but leave the routemasks.
[25-Sep-2007 17:22:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: let me know if you need any help. I used to be a Nuclear ME in the Navy
[25-Sep-2007 17:26:03] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[25-Sep-2007 17:29:20] <Bulwinkle> cluther: need help a sec... how do I get that hot Google map up?
[25-Sep-2007 17:29:56] <MoreDakka_> Ooo...I might be able to help ;-)
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:05] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: please do tell....
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:11] <MoreDakka_> did you just install 2.1?
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:17] <Bulwinkle> I know it has something to do with the locations right?
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:22] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: yeah 2.0.90
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:38] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, on your dashboard do you have the google map? Should show the world by default I think.
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:47] <MoreDakka_> (yay I feel useful)
[25-Sep-2007 17:30:53] <Bulwinkle> Nope, that hasn't even shown up yet
[25-Sep-2007 17:31:31] <kgoedte1> locations, far right maps tab?
[25-Sep-2007 17:31:39] <MoreDakka_> Go to Settings and click on the little "help" next to Google Maps API Key and follow the instructions on how to get your key. Don't forget the :8080 on your domain.
[25-Sep-2007 17:31:53] <kgoedte1> ahh
[25-Sep-2007 17:33:38] <MoreDakka_> Oh and don't make any spelling mistakes on the locations...messes things up on the map pretty bad (I'm located in one province and it was showing the world twice for my locations...haha)
[25-Sep-2007 17:35:26] <Bulwinkle> still no workee
[25-Sep-2007 17:35:41] <Bulwinkle> still not displaying the map at all
[25-Sep-2007 17:35:55] <MoreDakka_> cluther: This would be something nice to see on the google map, if something is down then the dot turns Red. If you mouse over a gren/red dot then it will have a small mouseover window that shows the devices in the list for that location.
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:10] <MoreDakka_> Do you have a valid domain name for the server?
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:18] <cluther> We have the colored dot already.. no mouseover though.
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:18] <MoreDakka_> I haven't tried it with just an IP...
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:32] <MoreDakka_> Hmmm...colored dot isn't working for me
[25-Sep-2007 17:36:34] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: um.... not really
[25-Sep-2007 17:37:01] <cluther> MoreDakka_: You probably received the event before moving the device into the location.
[25-Sep-2007 17:37:06] <MoreDakka_> so you have http://x.x.x.x:8080 as the google maps?
[25-Sep-2007 17:37:37] <MoreDakka_> cluther: The device is down before it got moved in there....once it's reported up and then down again it'll be red?
[25-Sep-2007 17:38:14] <Bulwinkle> cluther: want to see my error in my location window?
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:22] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Right. Events are associated with groups/locations/etc when they're created.
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:25] <Bulwinkle> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/206810
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:32] <MoreDakka_> Ah, cool, thnx.
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[25-Sep-2007 17:39:52] <MoreDakka_> OOooo..nice error.
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:10] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Was that an upgrade or a fresh install?
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:23] <Bulwinkle> cluther: upgrade....
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:33] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It looks like the migration didn't run.. try running zenmigrate.
[25-Sep-2007 17:42:41] <Bulwinkle> cluther: did an install.sh.... okay one sec
[25-Sep-2007 17:43:39] <Bulwinkle> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/206819
[25-Sep-2007 17:43:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[25-Sep-2007 17:43:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: zenmigrate barfed
[25-Sep-2007 17:44:42] <Bulwinkle> got it everywhere.... carpet, drapes, on my new suede shoes....
[25-Sep-2007 17:46:06] <MoreDakka_> ha
[25-Sep-2007 17:46:14] <MoreDakka_> gross description
[25-Sep-2007 17:46:40] <Bulwinkle> cluther: zenstatus keeps on dying too
[25-Sep-2007 17:47:06] <kgoedte1> yay for iteration over non-sequence
[25-Sep-2007 18:27:50] <progma> kgoedte1: i'm not getting any emails; do i need to restart zeneventlog or something
[25-Sep-2007 18:28:13] <progma> (for email alerting)
[25-Sep-2007 18:30:26] <progma> i set the threshold to level info from the default so i ought to get a storm of emails
[25-Sep-2007 18:33:37] <cluther> progma: zenactions is the one that sends alerts.
[25-Sep-2007 18:40:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: did you see that pastebin I sent you?
[25-Sep-2007 18:41:48] <cluther> hmm.. the canGraph one?
[25-Sep-2007 18:42:20] <Bulwinkle> cluther: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/206819
[25-Sep-2007 18:42:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[25-Sep-2007 18:42:52] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when I tried the zenmigrate, thats what I got
[25-Sep-2007 18:43:16] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any ideas?
[25-Sep-2007 18:44:06] <cluther> one is brewing..
[25-Sep-2007 18:44:47] <cluther> Try this..
[25-Sep-2007 18:44:53] <cluther> zenmigrate --step=Thresholds
[25-Sep-2007 18:45:12] <cluther> Then if that completes successfully try running the full zenmigrate again.
[25-Sep-2007 18:46:25] <Bulwinkle> cluther: duh... I think I read that in the forums this morning...
[25-Sep-2007 18:46:36] <cluther> doh.. I thought I was being clever.
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:19] <Bulwinkle> more clever than I was apparently
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:21] <cluther> If that works the problem is the ordering of the migrate steps.
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:35] <cluther> Which if I read my changesets properly has now been dealt with.
[25-Sep-2007 18:47:59] <MoreDakka_> cluther: did you get that email for the snmpwalk for the cisco 871?
[25-Sep-2007 18:48:12] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Yeah, thanks.
[25-Sep-2007 18:48:15] <MoreDakka_> good good.
[25-Sep-2007 18:48:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah, saw that bug was addressed.
[25-Sep-2007 18:51:14] <Bulwinkle> Now I get my map.... cool cool.... no dots though
[25-Sep-2007 18:51:34] <Bulwinkle> I have one location called Houston TX with a sublocation called 7210 Ardmore ....
[25-Sep-2007 18:52:03] <Bulwinkle> does it work like that?
[25-Sep-2007 18:54:42] <MoreDakka_> nope
[25-Sep-2007 18:54:52] <MoreDakka_> have to go to the location and click on the Edit next to address
[25-Sep-2007 18:55:15] <MoreDakka_> I've found that you will only be able to get the locations on the dashboard if the locations are in the root of /locations
[25-Sep-2007 18:56:07] <MoreDakka_> it's nice, takes longs/lats as well :-D Anything that google maps can take....yay
[25-Sep-2007 18:56:36] <MoreDakka_> Can I export the data from v1.1.1 into 2.1beta without compromising the v1.1.1?
[25-Sep-2007 18:57:33] <Bulwinkle> Cool!
[25-Sep-2007 18:57:54] <MoreDakka_> Yeah that google maps is a nice feature ;-)
[25-Sep-2007 18:58:04] <MoreDakka_> I hope they put in the mouse-overs.
[25-Sep-2007 19:12:15] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[25-Sep-2007 19:23:25] <MoreDakka_> Can I export the data from v1.1.1 into 2.1beta without compromising the v1.1.1?
[25-Sep-2007 19:28:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: if I set my base location to /Locations shouldn't it show my whole network?
[25-Sep-2007 19:29:54] <cluther> Assuming the locations defined directly under /Locations have addresses assigned to them.
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:15] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I see, so subgroups aren't parsed?
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:39] <cluther> Nope. That could lead to some very weird confusion.
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:51] <MoreDakka_> Did for me for a bit.
[25-Sep-2007 19:30:57] <MoreDakka_> Can I export the data from v1.1.1 into 2.1beta without compromising the v1.1.1?
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:01] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I see.... still, very cool way to do things.... Props!
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:10] <MoreDakka_> ^^ 2nd that
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:12] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Yes.
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:41] <MoreDakka_> Just follow the export methods in the upgrading from 1.x to 2.x?
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:51] <cluther> Find the 1.x to 2.x upgrade instructions online. You'll need to take your zendump.zip file and move it to your 2.1 server to load it up.
[25-Sep-2007 19:31:57] <cluther> heh.. yeah.
[25-Sep-2007 19:32:04] <MoreDakka_> ;-) yay, thanks again cluther :-D
[25-Sep-2007 19:32:06] <cluther> Make a backup!
[25-Sep-2007 19:35:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: have I been upgrading the right way by just untar/gziping the Source Tarball and running ./install.sh as zenoss?
[25-Sep-2007 19:35:41] <MoreDakka_> yep
[25-Sep-2007 19:36:14] <MoreDakka_> speaking of backup, what are the best dirs to backup (assuming mysql has been dumped and backed up already)?
[25-Sep-2007 19:37:41] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: there is a backup script
[25-Sep-2007 19:38:45] <cluther> Make a copy of $ZENHOME.
[25-Sep-2007 19:38:53] <cluther> That'll get everything except the MySQL database.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:02] <MoreDakka_> Hmm...didn't know that....I'll look for that backup script.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:11] <MoreDakka_> Ah, good, that's included in my regular backup script.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:12] <cluther> The backup script doesn't backup the code, which would be very helpful if you need to revert to the old version.
[25-Sep-2007 19:39:39] <MoreDakka_> So if I have zenhome in my nightly backup I don't need to worry about another backup script?
[25-Sep-2007 19:40:02] <cluther> $ZENHOME and your MySQL databases..
[25-Sep-2007 19:40:50] <MoreDakka_> awesome...thanks.
[25-Sep-2007 19:42:40] <xeor> hmm.. I dont get the graphs (Perf) to work, it worked about five minutes for some hourse ago, I have one spike. But now they dont log anything. I can see the current value beneeth the graphs dough.. Anyone knows what could be wrong?
[25-Sep-2007 19:43:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther: both of my systems have failed on the upgrade.... Data migration failed... Is this due to the zenmigrate thingy I did earlier?
[25-Sep-2007 19:43:24] <cluther> At least.
[25-Sep-2007 19:44:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm doing it on the second server to see if it comes through it without dropping the whole DB
[25-Sep-2007 19:48:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: looks like that worked better
[25-Sep-2007 19:50:42] <fiXXXerMet> Is it difficult to upgrade from zenoss to 2.1 beta?
[25-Sep-2007 19:50:55] <fiXXXerMet> I don't want to lose... anything
[25-Sep-2007 19:51:50] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: what version are you running now?
[25-Sep-2007 19:52:27] <fiXXXerMet> 2.0.6
[25-Sep-2007 19:53:17] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: I just upgraded 2 of my 2.0.5 systems and there was no problem except those already mentioned on the forum.... I'd wait until the full 2.1 release if you're using it as production
[25-Sep-2007 19:53:34] <fiXXXerMet> What's the eta on that?
[25-Sep-2007 19:55:59] <MoreDakka_> That's what I was thinking, don't want to put beta in production @_o
[25-Sep-2007 19:58:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do you know if the windows snmp problems have been resolved?
[25-Sep-2007 19:58:44] <fiXXXerMet> Windows problems?
[25-Sep-2007 19:58:52] <cluther> Are you talking about the invalid literal thing?
[25-Sep-2007 19:59:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah
[25-Sep-2007 19:59:52] <cluther> It has been. It turned out to be a problem with the disk modeler.
[25-Sep-2007 20:00:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah... I noticed removing the HDDs from SNMP resolved it
[25-Sep-2007 20:02:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: excellent... now I just need to get everyone to go to firefox who is going to use it
[25-Sep-2007 20:02:51] <fiXXXerMet> Or, is there a way to install 2.1 beta and copy the DB from my 2.0.6 install?
[25-Sep-2007 20:02:58] <fiXXXerMet> So it starts with the same data.
[25-Sep-2007 20:54:22] <MoreDakka_> cluther, will I still be able to do a zen2dump without shutting zenoss down?
[25-Sep-2007 20:56:36] <cluther> MoreDakka_: yes
[25-Sep-2007 20:59:50] <MoreDakka_> haha....broke it good.
[25-Sep-2007 21:01:48] <MoreDakka_> I got the zope quick start screen in my web browser.
[25-Sep-2007 21:07:24] <MoreDakka_> great...now my testbox is really broken. zenrestore doesn't even want to work for me
[25-Sep-2007 21:10:00] <runlevel> hi
[25-Sep-2007 21:10:06] <MoreDakka_> Well I tried the import again and it keeps puking -> http://pastebin.ca/713993
[25-Sep-2007 21:10:13] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 713993 (at pastebin.ca)
[25-Sep-2007 21:11:33] <runlevel> so i want to do somthing like this: exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.50 shelltest /bin/sh /tmp/shtest but i am unaware of WTF the numbers are and if i need my own or just use that one? can some one explain this to me? is it an OID? how do i make my own so i can make my own commands
[25-Sep-2007 21:24:12] <fiXXXerMet> runlevel: Try snmptranslate -On 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.50
[25-Sep-2007 21:24:18] <fiXXXerMet> That might give yous ome more info on the oid
[25-Sep-2007 21:25:04] <runlevel> i just dont know like.. is that number specific to anything or do i just hit the keyboard 234982734923749823423 and use that number?
[25-Sep-2007 21:26:28] <fiXXXerMet> That number is part of a mib tree... I don't know all of the specifics but there are more "branches" after that part of the tree. If you snmpwalk -c communitystring -v version ip.add.re.ss 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.50 you should get some info
[25-Sep-2007 21:32:11] <runlevel> ok thanks man
[25-Sep-2007 21:57:24] <MoreDakka_> How do I remove anything that has to do with Zenoss and rebuild it from scratch?
[25-Sep-2007 21:57:37] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying stuff on my own but I'm thinking I'm making more of a mess of things.
[25-Sep-2007 22:03:42] <progma> MoreDakka_: couldn't you just uninstall the rpms you used and delete the mysql tables that zenoss uses?
[25-Sep-2007 22:04:05] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying the following command "rpm -qa|grep -i zenoss|xargs rpm --erase" see if that clears it for me.
[25-Sep-2007 22:06:08] <progma> i think it's just one rpm
[25-Sep-2007 22:06:19] <progma> unless you want to totally remove your mysql and python stuff too
[25-Sep-2007 22:07:04] <MoreDakka_> here we go again ;-) trying the install...I just ran that command and removed the mysql dbase..trying the install again.
[25-Sep-2007 22:08:20] <progma> you should get the nifty mysqladmin gui
[25-Sep-2007 22:10:58] <MoreDakka_> bah....so this is what I'm trying to do. I've got a v1.1.1 server that I'm trying to import the data to 2.1beta. Tried to follow the instructions here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/ Didn't work, got this when trying to do a zen2load: http://pastebin.ca/713993 and now I'm stuck cause I tried to uninstall the software with yum ( asI don't know any better) and that really me
[25-Sep-2007 22:11:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2007 22:11:25] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 713993 (at pastebin.ca)
[25-Sep-2007 22:11:56] <MoreDakka_> So now, after running rpm -Uvh zenoss-2... to install the rpm I get "zeoctl start -> bash: zeoctl: command not found" as I'm su'd to zenoss.
[25-Sep-2007 22:18:05] <MoreDakka_> Well, when I come in tomorrow this machine is just going to get formatted and reinstalled. I can't get zeoctl working, tried to reinsatll zenoss 3 times now...
[25-Sep-2007 22:25:12] <MoreDakka_> Ha....me so smrt...like rock. Didn't go through the initial install after going through the rpm....blegh..didn't even think of it earlier.
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[26-Sep-2007 07:06:15] <Freak> what does AttributeError "'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getGraphs'" meanþ?
[26-Sep-2007 11:30:56] <Freak> do locations have any functionality?
[26-Sep-2007 11:31:11] <Freak> besides being able to set a location string for a device?
[26-Sep-2007 14:28:46] <jb> whats the best way to apply an IP service monitor for a whole group? (ie, monitor TCP/22 on /Devices/Linux/FTP Servers)?
[26-Sep-2007 14:40:06] <Bulwinkle> jb: I don't know that there is one
[26-Sep-2007 14:40:32] <MoreDakka_> You can use nagios plugins
[26-Sep-2007 14:40:50] <MoreDakka_> for ver 1.1.1 anyways
[26-Sep-2007 14:46:53] <MoreDakka_> This is what I use for checking tcp port 23 ---> /usr/local/zenoss/libexec/check_tcp ${dev/manageIp} -p 23
[26-Sep-2007 14:47:22] <MoreDakka_> but I'm not sure if that's the same in v2.x
[26-Sep-2007 14:49:38] <jb> well, it can monitor ports
[26-Sep-2007 14:49:40] <jb> thats no big deal
[26-Sep-2007 14:49:53] <jb> im just wondering if there is a way to apply one standard monitor for a whole tree
[26-Sep-2007 14:50:20] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, just put that into a PerfConf (devices) and everything under that tree will be checked with that command.
[26-Sep-2007 14:50:50] <jb> so no way to do it in the web gui?
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:01] <MoreDakka_> What version are you running?
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:16] <jb> 2.0.6
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:28] <MoreDakka_> I've got 2.1beta installed, lemme see how it's done in that.
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:30] <jb> instead od having to go to every box, and clicking ADD IP SERVIXCE
[26-Sep-2007 14:51:50] <jb> i would like to for example add TCP/22 monitoring for all devices under /Devices/Servers/Linux/DNS
[26-Sep-2007 14:53:03] <MoreDakka_> Its a little different in v2.1 then 1.1.1 that's for sure :-/
[26-Sep-2007 14:54:09] <MoreDakka_> So navigate to /Devices/Servers/Linux/DNS , click on Templates, click on Device and in here add in the command for check_tcp. That 'should' check everything in /Devices/Servers/Linux/DNS for whatever you put in that command.
[26-Sep-2007 15:00:41] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: He isn't using a check_tcp command.... he is using ZenOSS's builtin functionality
[26-Sep-2007 15:01:11] <jb> hm
[26-Sep-2007 15:05:00] <jb> More: these are performance templates?
[26-Sep-2007 15:05:53] <MoreDakka_> Oh haha ;-) I misunderstood then.
[26-Sep-2007 15:06:11] <jb> yeah, i dont want performance
[26-Sep-2007 15:06:35] <kgoedtel> if you are saying you want to monitor port 22 as an ip service, you can only set the monitor to true globally, not per device tree
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:23] <jb> but you can enable/disable per device
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:29] <kgoedtel> yes
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:35] <kgoedtel> but not per tree
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:41] <jb> ah damn
[26-Sep-2007 15:07:48] <kgoedtel> i agree
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:01] <jb> i designed my trees because i thought you could do that
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:09] <kgoedtel> probably why there is a placeholder template called ipservice :]
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:30] <jb> yeah
[26-Sep-2007 15:08:31] <jb> hehe
[26-Sep-2007 15:15:41] <MoreDakka_> wait wait.
[26-Sep-2007 15:15:59] <MoreDakka_> So you don't want to monitor performance, you just want to monitor if the tcp/23 is responding right?
[26-Sep-2007 15:20:13] <jb> yes
[26-Sep-2007 15:20:15] <jb> i got it
[26-Sep-2007 15:20:27] <jb> now, I wish there was a way to map SNMP traps before they come in :/
[26-Sep-2007 15:29:35] <jb> what are all of these predefined events?
[26-Sep-2007 15:29:40] <jb> HP/compaq stuff?
[26-Sep-2007 15:57:06] <Merciless> RPC_S_CALL_FAILED: The remote procedure call failed. (1726)
[26-Sep-2007 15:57:10] <Merciless> need some help please
[26-Sep-2007 15:59:22] <kgoedtel> i have the same, dunno what it means
[26-Sep-2007 15:59:31] <kgoedtel> stupid windows servers :]
[26-Sep-2007 15:59:59] <Merciless> lol
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:08] <Merciless> well how do i disable that alert for that server
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:13] <kgoedtel> no idea
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:17] <Merciless> rofl
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:20] <Merciless> helpful u are
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:21] <kgoedtel> im sure something is configured wrong or missing
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:26] <Merciless> me too
[26-Sep-2007 16:00:28] <Merciless> but ive checked most
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:06] <kgoedtel> but for me, the only windows server i am monitoring it is just for dev... so i havent dug into the problem
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:39] <Merciless> o ok
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:43] <Merciless> well i'll be monitoring a lot
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:48] <Merciless> we're a network security and monitoring company
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:48] <Merciless> rofl;
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:55] <Merciless> i dont fancy 90 RPC errors
[26-Sep-2007 16:01:59] <kgoedtel> well, then you should be a pro
[26-Sep-2007 16:02:20] <Merciless> rofl
[26-Sep-2007 16:02:20] <kgoedtel> security and windows... kind of like oxymorons you know
[26-Sep-2007 16:02:26] <Merciless> LOL i know
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:00] <hotgrits> Merciless: you could map this event to the "/Ignore" event class
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:24] <Merciless> ah might give that a try
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:25] <hotgrits> you won't see it again.
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:29] <kgoedtel> i would want to know what it means before ignoring
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:32] <kgoedtel> :|
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:34] <Merciless> although im wondering if with that rpc error its going to mean i cant do wmi monitoring
[26-Sep-2007 16:03:37] <Merciless> me too
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:01] <hotgrits> that error comes from your windows event logs, so its something being logged on windows
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:01] <kgoedtel> however, they do say ignorance is bliss
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:06] <hotgrits> not necessarily zenoss-related
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:51] <kgoedtel> so perhaps event viewer will show more
[26-Sep-2007 16:04:52] <Merciless> ah didnt realise that
[26-Sep-2007 16:05:02] <Merciless> ah well, thank uuu
[26-Sep-2007 16:05:15] <hotgrits> Merciless: you're welcome
[26-Sep-2007 17:13:36] <fiXXXerMet> doot en doot en doo doo
[26-Sep-2007 17:13:48] <MoreDakka_> bored?
[26-Sep-2007 17:13:59] <davetoo> fruer
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:04] <fiXXXerMet> yeah-sih
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:06] <fiXXXerMet> ish*
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:29] <davetoo> how is an upgrade via svn supposed to work?
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:39] <davetoo> I had 2.090 installed,
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:46] <davetoo> in /opt/zenoss;
[26-Sep-2007 17:14:58] <davetoo> I created /home/zenoss/zenossinst,
[26-Sep-2007 17:15:15] <davetoo> did the initial svn checkout and then ran install.sh there,
[26-Sep-2007 17:15:25] <davetoo> and it complained about files/directories already existing.
[26-Sep-2007 17:15:54] <davetoo> (For now, I just moved /opt/zenoss and I'll copy back in the Data.fs, etc.)
[26-Sep-2007 17:17:12] <fiXXXerMet> Question. I have zenoss deployed at our location, monitoring our local office and about 6 remote offices. When our WAN goes down, there is no way for us to be notified. Could I simply setup zenoss on my home server, have it monitor our firewalls, and when the connection is down, send an email?
[26-Sep-2007 17:29:43] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[26-Sep-2007 17:41:23] <fiXXXerMet> Why does zenoss need the MySQL root user/pass, when I give it full privileges on it's own db?
[26-Sep-2007 17:43:08] <davetoo> So it can create the table and triggers (and stored procedures, I think)
[26-Sep-2007 17:46:03] <CharlieS1> I'm running ubuntu feisty and i can't get snmpd configured correctly for a localhost install of zenoss.. would anyone pastebin their config?
[26-Sep-2007 17:46:35] <fiXXXerMet> Does it keep the root password?
[26-Sep-2007 17:48:14] <CharlieS1> does what keep the root password?
[26-Sep-2007 17:49:14] <fiXXXerMet> zenoss
[26-Sep-2007 17:49:28] <fiXXXerMet> mysql root
[26-Sep-2007 17:56:21] <davetoo> Not sure, but there's something boogered in the install/upgrade scripts,
[26-Sep-2007 17:56:51] <davetoo> if you're upgrading it doesn't ask for the mysql root password, it just assumes a NULL password and fails if it isn't.
[26-Sep-2007 17:57:45] <fiXXXerMet> hmm
[26-Sep-2007 18:51:15] <fiXXXerMet> Ugh, I need help.
[26-Sep-2007 18:51:58] <fiXXXerMet> Trying to tell a sonicwall firewall to let a remote (WAN) ip address connect with snmp. nmapping the firewall shows the ports as open|filtered
[26-Sep-2007 19:11:53] <CharlieS1> Is there a way to get templates and graphs into Zenoss Core?
[26-Sep-2007 19:15:00] CharlieS1 is now known as CharlieSu
[26-Sep-2007 19:22:14] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone tellm e why I can't import data from v1.1.1 -> 2.1beta? I keep getting http://pastebin.ca/716361
[26-Sep-2007 19:22:22] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 716361 (at pastebin.ca)
[26-Sep-2007 19:25:26] <slimmpete> Hello everyone!
[26-Sep-2007 19:25:47] <fiXXXerMet> hi!
[26-Sep-2007 19:25:58] <slimmpete> Does anyone know of any way to resolve snmptrap authirization error
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:11] <MoreDakka_> fiXXXer: Do you have any idea why I can't import data?
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:20] <slimmpete> Does Zenoss have snmptrap configuration
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:30] <fiXXXerMet> No idea MoreDakka_
[26-Sep-2007 19:26:35] <MoreDakka_> bah
[26-Sep-2007 19:27:02] <slimmpete> I know that zentrap is tha trap server for zenoss
[26-Sep-2007 19:27:32] <slimmpete> But I where can I find documentation to configuring it
[26-Sep-2007 19:30:14] <CharlieSu> Is there a way to get templates and graphs into Zenoss Core? Are the nice defaults only available for paying customers?
[26-Sep-2007 20:16:18] <fiXXXerMet> What is Consolidation: AVERAGE?
[26-Sep-2007 20:35:22] <fiXXXerMet> Can anyone help me with the maps part of 2.1? I can see maps, but I don't have any lines between two locations.
[26-Sep-2007 20:38:09] <slimmpete> does anyone know the default zentrap trapcommunity string?
[26-Sep-2007 20:58:40] <fiXXXerMet> How do I get the link line between my locations on the map?
[26-Sep-2007 20:58:46] <fiXXXerMet> Both have addresses set.
[26-Sep-2007 20:59:36] <fiXXXerMet> And how do they have locations connecting to more than 1 location?
[26-Sep-2007 21:08:18] <MoreDakka_> Ooo...good question
[26-Sep-2007 21:08:35] <MoreDakka_> I don't think that's their idea....yet...but that would be sweet to see.
[26-Sep-2007 21:11:32] <fiXXXerMet> I saw it in their screenshots
[26-Sep-2007 21:23:52] <MoreDakka_> Oooo...do you have a linky?
[26-Sep-2007 21:23:59] <MoreDakka_> I think zenmodeler is broken in 2.1beta
[26-Sep-2007 21:24:14] <MoreDakka_> for my cisco 871 anyways
[26-Sep-2007 21:24:23] <MoreDakka_> other devices seem to model no problem.
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[26-Sep-2007 22:29:33] <sleske> Hi!
[26-Sep-2007 22:41:16] <sleske> hm...
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[27-Sep-2007 10:03:10] <ugenk> i've just downloaded 2.0.6 vmware image and trying to log in to the web interface
[27-Sep-2007 10:03:31] <ugenk> i've tryed to log in with admin / zenoss credentials - but it says:
[27-Sep-2007 10:03:40] <ugenk> The credentials you supplied were not correct or did not grant access to this resource.
[27-Sep-2007 10:04:04] <ugenk> i've logged in to the console, made su - zenoss and run zenpass
[27-Sep-2007 10:04:25] <ugenk> changed password for admin to 123 - but it still does not allow to login into the web ui
[27-Sep-2007 10:04:40] <ugenk> what am i missing?
[27-Sep-2007 10:31:14] <Merciless> 2 events are not class /Unknown. Created 0 event mappings.
[27-Sep-2007 10:31:21] <Merciless> i get that when i try and map an event to /ignore so i dont get it again
[27-Sep-2007 10:31:22] <Merciless> any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 11:40:08] <Merciless> grr
[27-Sep-2007 11:40:11] <Merciless> this things driving me insane
[27-Sep-2007 11:40:19] <Merciless> how do i disable a threshold for a device type
[27-Sep-2007 12:01:53] <Merciless> so many bugs in this
[27-Sep-2007 12:02:07] <Merciless> ive told a threshold to be disabled but its still bringing up fkin alerts lol
[27-Sep-2007 12:29:44] <Merciless> hey Bulwinkle
how are you[27-Sep-2007 12:46:26] <Bulwinkle> Hi Merciless, doing good, you?
[27-Sep-2007 12:47:44] <Merciless> Not bad thanks
[27-Sep-2007 12:47:54] <Merciless> starting to run zenoss side by side with our current monitoring system for comparisons
[27-Sep-2007 12:54:07] <Merciless> having some trouble as always
[27-Sep-2007 13:39:53] <xeor> Is there any SELinux rules to zenoss out there? I dont feel 100% comfertable running zensocket with setuidbit root..
[27-Sep-2007 14:04:39] <hotgrits> xeor: good question. I don't think we have any at this point but we should create some
[27-Sep-2007 14:10:33] <xeor> Goodie..
[27-Sep-2007 14:11:56] <xeor> google didnt gave me much info when searching for selinux and zenoss eighter.. But hopefully someone will see into that soon. I dont know if I can create that kinda rules, yet..
[27-Sep-2007 14:12:04] <adytum-bot> xeor: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[27-Sep-2007 14:12:29] <xeor> adytum-bot: yea, you do that...
[27-Sep-2007 14:12:29] <adytum-bot> xeor: Error: 'yea,' is not a valid command.
[27-Sep-2007 14:14:43] <Merciless> 2 events are not class /Unknown. Created 0 event mappings.
[27-Sep-2007 14:14:45] <Merciless> i get that when i try and map an event to /ignore so i dont get it again
[27-Sep-2007 14:14:47] <Merciless> any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 14:28:33] <zaf> in Zenoss 2.0, how do you override the 'Speed' of an interface, or set the utilization alarm?
[27-Sep-2007 14:28:53] <zaf> ah, i think i found it
[27-Sep-2007 14:29:14] <zaf> yeah, nmind
[27-Sep-2007 15:13:31] <nws> hi, what is the proper way to upgrade from 1.1 to 2.0.91?
[27-Sep-2007 15:13:53] <nws> to use the http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/
[27-Sep-2007 15:14:05] <nws> or http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/zenoss-migration-scripts/
[27-Sep-2007 15:14:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 15:14:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Zenoss Migration Scripts - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:29] <MoreDakka_> Ha...good luck
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:37] <MoreDakka_> If you get that working, plaese tell me your secret.
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:50] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to go from v1.1.1 -> v2.1beta
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:54] <nws> MoreDakka_: have you done an upgrade or just reinstalled?
[27-Sep-2007 15:18:57] <MoreDakka_> It's ugly
[27-Sep-2007 15:19:00] <nws> ah
[27-Sep-2007 15:19:02] <nws> yea it is
[27-Sep-2007 15:19:15] <nws> its ridiculous the docs arent any better than this
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:10] <MoreDakka_> <cough>It's free</cough> But yeah, the migration docs are not working for me at all.
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:29] <nws> not that i can't learn python, i just would have thought the "Migration Scripts" docs would be step-by-step
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:38] <nws> yea
[27-Sep-2007 15:20:49] <MoreDakka_> If you want to join in the fun: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11164#11164
[27-Sep-2007 15:21:02] <nws> i tried the zenoss data migration and that zen2dump.py is broken for me
[27-Sep-2007 15:21:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Trying to migrate data from v1.1.1 -> v2.1beta (at community.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 15:21:08] <nws> wtcrap?
[27-Sep-2007 15:22:06] <MoreDakka_> I'm actually trying to take the data from our production sever onto a testbox so I can make sure everything works before putting it in production....it's not looking too promising.
[27-Sep-2007 15:29:41] * nws shakes head
[27-Sep-2007 15:29:47] <nws> we only have a production box
[27-Sep-2007 15:32:38] <MoreDakka_> hehe. We have about 150 devices that we monitor and can't have that box go down or loose the data at all...my boss would freak out in a bad way if that happened.
[27-Sep-2007 15:55:57] <MoreDakka_> Maybe the just released 2.0.91 will fix my problem....
[27-Sep-2007 16:06:54] <nws> well, thats what im working with
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:10] <MoreDakka_> Probably not going to fix my problem then
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:32] <MoreDakka_> Are you getting the same types of errors that I'm getting (posted in the topic on the forums)?
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:34] <nws> i just wish the Zenoss Migration Scripts docs would be detailed step-by-step instructions
[27-Sep-2007 16:07:50] <nws> no, i havent even used zen2load
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:20] <MoreDakka_> What part did you get to before it puked?
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:27] <nws> i was using the "Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0" docs with this zen2dump.py and the script is broken
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:49] <nws> are you using this link? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/data-migration-zenoss-1-x-to-2.0/
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:50] <MoreDakka_> That sucks...I didn't have any problems with that portion of the instructions.
[27-Sep-2007 16:08:54] <MoreDakka_> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:04] <nws> hmm, ill show you what happens
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Data Migration: Zenoss 1.x to 2.0 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:40] <nws> http://pastebin.com/m258caeaa
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:47] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:09:56] <nws> damn that bot is annoying
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:15] <nws> _http://pastebin.com/m258caeaa_
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:31] <MoreDakka_> yeesh.....and that's just from running the zen2dump.py?
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:32] <nws> yea, it can't parse that
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:37] <nws> yep
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:40] <nws> i hate this
[27-Sep-2007 16:10:51] <nws> and it hates me too im sure
[27-Sep-2007 16:11:22] <MoreDakka_> hehe
[27-Sep-2007 16:11:36] <MoreDakka_> Well lets both hope cluther comes on at some point today...
[27-Sep-2007 16:11:51] <nws> sooner rather than later i hope
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:04] <MoreDakka_> have you posted in the forums?
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:16] <nws> no
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:21] <MoreDakka_> should.
[27-Sep-2007 16:12:41] <nws> ill do that
[27-Sep-2007 16:15:27] <nws> btw, is this link broken for you? _http://www.zenoss.com/acl_users/credentials_cookie_auth/login_form?came_from=http%3A//www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/document_view_
[27-Sep-2007 16:15:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:01] <MoreDakka_> Did you mean to have the " _ " in front of http?
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:24] <nws> yea, i thought the bot wouldnt parse it, but it did
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:27] <MoreDakka_> ahha
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:36] <fiXXXerMet> Have any of you moved zenoss from port 8080 to 443 or 80 (We want to setup ssl)?
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:37] <MoreDakka_> I get a login prompt for that page.
[27-Sep-2007 16:16:48] <MoreDakka_> not I.
[27-Sep-2007 16:17:40] <nws> well, from this page http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/ the link "Upgrading from with Zenoss 1.x" points to that login page
[27-Sep-2007 16:17:53] <nws> even when logged in, it will point you to the login page
[27-Sep-2007 16:17:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install Guides - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-Sep-2007 16:18:13] <nws> im about to /ignore that bot
[27-Sep-2007 16:18:21] <nws> in fact, i just have
[27-Sep-2007 16:27:20] <MoreDakka_> This is just getting better and better for me too. I wanted to try 2.0.91 instead of 2.0.90 and I can't even start zenoss, all the config files are missing on a fresh install...weeeee
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:07] <nws> i hope you backed them up
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:20] <nws> also, what is not starting?
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:21] <MoreDakka_> Megh...test box, not worried about things breaking.
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:24] <MoreDakka_> everything.
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:44] <nws> if you do a ps and grep for zenoss, what comes up?
[27-Sep-2007 16:28:53] <MoreDakka_> http://pastebin.ca/717394
[27-Sep-2007 16:29:01] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 717394 (at pastebin.ca)
[27-Sep-2007 16:29:08] <MoreDakka_> nada
[27-Sep-2007 16:30:23] <nws> uh, well, just push the backup and start over
[27-Sep-2007 16:31:52] <MoreDakka_> It's strange that I can't install from scratch that I keep getting this uglyness.
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:01] <davetoo> release notes say something about having to run zenmigrate even for a clean-slate install. Did you do that?
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:29] <nws> saw that
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:38] <nws> thats kinda weird
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:41] <davetoo> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 16:32:57] <davetoo> I didn't do that for my 2.0.90 install,
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:06] <davetoo> and then I did an svn update,
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:20] <davetoo> seems to be working OK.
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:23] <MoreDakka_> I'm going to have to put that on hold for a little bit as I'm tryign to do a bunch of firmware updates at the same time.
[27-Sep-2007 16:33:24] <nws> however, id like some guided help with editing the python scripts for that migration
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[27-Sep-2007 16:34:46] <davetoo> bah. zenping won't stay running, though.
[27-Sep-2007 16:35:12] <davetoo> _mysql_exceptions.IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry 'ac13f88135d6fa7dffffffe' for key 1")
[27-Sep-2007 17:35:46] Tinozaure is now known as Tino
[27-Sep-2007 17:35:51] Tino is now known as Tinozaure
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:15] <jsm> can someone define ssCpuRawWait for me?
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:43] <kgoedte1> percentage of cpu time spent doing nothing
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:54] <jsm> the same as idle?
[27-Sep-2007 17:49:58] <jsm> or is it an iowait?
[27-Sep-2007 17:51:12] <kgoedtel> i dunno if it is like iowait, maybe
[27-Sep-2007 17:51:47] <kgoedtel> percentage of cpu requests that have to wait per cycle maybe
[27-Sep-2007 17:52:21] <jsm> os if i have 300% RawWait on a 4 processor system, that could be a bottleneck/problem?
[27-Sep-2007 18:11:10] <nws> are you two running 1.1?
[27-Sep-2007 18:11:29] <kgoedtel> no, im running 2.0.6
[27-Sep-2007 18:14:37] <jsm> i'm running 2.04
[27-Sep-2007 18:17:47] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone here using 2.1 beta with the maps (multiple locations)?
[27-Sep-2007 18:19:44] <MoreDakka_> I did for a bit
[27-Sep-2007 18:19:57] <MoreDakka_> until I wanted to import data and now everything is borked
[27-Sep-2007 18:19:58] <nws> kgoedtel: did you upgrade from 1.x?
[27-Sep-2007 18:20:06] <nws> or you jsm?
[27-Sep-2007 18:22:10] <fiXXXerMet> MoreDakka_: Did you have the neat lines going between locations on the map?
[27-Sep-2007 18:22:49] <MoreDakka_> Naw, I remember you asking about that. I had multiple locations but none of them are linked in real life so I guess my situation doesn't apply to yours.
[27-Sep-2007 18:23:20] <fiXXXerMet> ah
[27-Sep-2007 18:24:07] <MoreDakka_> I would build some in for you but everything broke really bad when I tried to put in the 2.0.91...
[27-Sep-2007 18:24:39] <fiXXXerMet> build some?
[27-Sep-2007 18:24:41] <davetoo> HAHAHA: INFO:zen.migrate:Installing AnnoyingAlerts
[27-Sep-2007 18:25:13] <MoreDakka_> davetoo: you mentioned I had to run zenmigrate, I keep getting this over and over again: "WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(21569) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED"
[27-Sep-2007 18:25:44] <MoreDakka_> any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:17] <davetoo> You probably need to have zeoctl and zopectl running
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:25] <davetoo> (but none of the other daemons)
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:40] <MoreDakka_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:46] <MoreDakka_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:51] <MoreDakka_> @_o
[27-Sep-2007 18:26:51] <adytum-bot> MoreDakka_: Error: '_o' is not a valid command.
[27-Sep-2007 18:27:05] <davetoo> You used the RPM, didn't you?
[27-Sep-2007 18:27:11] <MoreDakka_> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 18:27:32] <davetoo> That happened to me when I tried the RPM, so I downloaded and installed from source tarball.
[27-Sep-2007 18:28:04] <MoreDakka_> weeee...soo much fun trying to play with the beta....what did they break from 2.090 -> 2.091?
[27-Sep-2007 18:28:56] <davetoo> dunno yet
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:17] <jsm> nws: no, it was a fresh install
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:21] <davetoo> I'm having trouble with events right now.
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:22] <nws> aha
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:41] <davetoo> No "Acknowledge" or "Send to History" options, just "Download as CSV"
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:48] <davetoo> oh, shit, n/mind
[27-Sep-2007 18:29:52] <davetoo> I'm logged in as "guest"
[27-Sep-2007 18:30:07] * davetoo <--- half-asleep
[27-Sep-2007 18:33:23] <MoreDakka_> haha
[27-Sep-2007 18:51:41] <nws> does anyone know what 'Globals' need to be imported for the zen2dump.py to work?
[27-Sep-2007 19:03:21] <MoreDakka_> I haven't installed from source before. Is it untar it, ./configure, make, make install?
[27-Sep-2007 19:04:21] <nws> MoreDakka_: well, that will happen once i can migrate the damn data
[27-Sep-2007 19:04:37] <MoreDakka_> But that is the correct way to do it?
[27-Sep-2007 19:04:51] <nws> and i dont know the 'Globals' that the zen2dump.py is trying to import
[27-Sep-2007 19:07:34] <fiXXXerMet> What OID do I use to get the memory usage percent on a windows server?
[27-Sep-2007 19:08:31] <davetoo> nws: did you set $ZENHOME and $ZENPATH in the zenoss users' .bashrc (or other startup file)?
[27-Sep-2007 19:08:53] <nws> i havent, but ill check if it is set
[27-Sep-2007 19:08:59] <davetoo> It needs to be
[27-Sep-2007 19:09:46] <nws> ZENPATH
[27-Sep-2007 19:10:35] <nws> what is $ZENPATH supposed to be?
[27-Sep-2007 19:10:48] <nws> i have ZENHOME and PYTHONHOME
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:01] <nws> davetoo: ?
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:05] <davetoo> I may be mis-remembering
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:35] <davetoo> I was indeed misremembering
[27-Sep-2007 19:14:52] <davetoo> it's PYTHONPATH
[27-Sep-2007 19:15:22] <davetoo> PYTHONPATH=${ZENHOME}/lib/pythong
[27-Sep-2007 19:15:24] <davetoo> -g
[27-Sep-2007 19:15:52] <nws> yea
[27-Sep-2007 19:16:01] <nws> but you know what my problem was?
[27-Sep-2007 19:16:19] <nws> su-ing to zenoss but the .profile wasnt getting sourced
[27-Sep-2007 19:16:23] <nws> grrrrrr
[27-Sep-2007 19:19:32] <fiXXXerMet> How do you have zenoss report when it can't ping a machine as a critical event?
[27-Sep-2007 19:22:28] <davetoo> zenping's default event severity is CRITICAL, I think
[27-Sep-2007 19:40:43] <fiXXXerMet> davetoo: As did I, but we restarted a server, the availability went down, and we didn't receive any events
[27-Sep-2007 19:47:37] <MoreDakka_> omg, this is getting stupid now. I just tried to install v2.06 and I'm still getting all the conf files are missing and won't start any of the deamons....this is a fresh install after removing the beta via rpm and removing all the zenoss directories.
[27-Sep-2007 19:49:58] <davetoo> I don't trust RPMs
[27-Sep-2007 19:50:06] <davetoo> s/trust/use
[27-Sep-2007 19:50:28] <MoreDakka_> I don't trust myself to install via source.
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:20] <eeurowerk> anyone know why I would be able to connect to freenode but then not be able to join the channel?
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:25] <eeurowerk> or any channel, for that matter?
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:30] <MoreDakka_> Ah me smart.
[27-Sep-2007 19:58:47] <MoreDakka_> I wasn't starting zenoss from root but from zenoss and it doesn't like that too much.
[27-Sep-2007 19:59:59] <eeurowerk> you're supposed to start up zenoss from root?
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:17] <MoreDakka_> for first time start....so it can finish building everything
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:23] <MoreDakka_> rpm install
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:28] <MoreDakka_> service zenoss start
[27-Sep-2007 20:00:31] <MoreDakka_> weeee.
[27-Sep-2007 20:06:16] <slimmpete> anyhelp with this error guys?
[27-Sep-2007 20:06:19] <slimmpete> snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from wl01.fxdd.com
[27-Sep-2007 20:08:16] <nws> ok so now im getting throught the install.sh but im still getting an error
[27-Sep-2007 20:09:27] <nws> http://rafb.net/p/SPC70s61.html
[27-Sep-2007 20:09:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Nopaste - Zenoss errors NO ZENBUILD.LOG (at rafb.net)
[27-Sep-2007 20:09:37] <MoreDakka_> slimmpete: I think that means that a machine has tried to access that machine with an incorrect snmp community
[27-Sep-2007 20:10:06] <MoreDakka_> nws....well I know it's not the beta that's the problem, tried the data import on 2.0.6 and it's generating the same errors for me.
[27-Sep-2007 20:10:34] <nws> the script?
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:02] <nws> i mean, for one, this script trying to create a backup in the directory its tarring wont work
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:19] <nws> i changed the backup.tar to /tmp/backup.tar
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:44] <MoreDakka_> You can just manually tar $ZENHOME and it pretty much does the same thing.
[27-Sep-2007 20:11:56] <MoreDakka_> that script also ran no problems for me from v1.1.1
[27-Sep-2007 20:12:04] <MoreDakka_> wonder if you have a problem with python or somethign?
[27-Sep-2007 20:12:09] <nws> right, so then just choose 'n' when doing the backup?
[27-Sep-2007 20:15:23] <MoreDakka_> n?
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:06] <nws> as in "no"
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:28] <nws> well, it seems that i missed one of the 'backup.tar's
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:31] <MoreDakka_> haha...I have never been prompted to do a backup.
[27-Sep-2007 20:17:36] <nws> ...
[27-Sep-2007 20:18:08] <MoreDakka_> When I ran that backup script it just ran and created the /$ZENHOME/backup/backup.tar file for me.
[27-Sep-2007 20:18:31] <nws> but you used the rpm right?
[27-Sep-2007 20:19:18] <MoreDakka_> For our original install of v1.1.1 (I'm sorry if I'm lost here...trying to do firmware updates as well).
[27-Sep-2007 20:19:52] <nws> but you used the source for the upgrade?
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:09] <MoreDakka_> I never did an upgrade, I have a seperate server that I copied the zendump.zip to (the backup just stayed on the production server...it was recommended to do a backup before anything else).
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:19] <MoreDakka_> The server I did an rpm install.
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:25] <MoreDakka_> sorry, 2nd server.
[27-Sep-2007 20:21:43] <nws> so where are you getting stuck?
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:14] <MoreDakka_> Trying to import the data into the test server (2.0.90 or 2.0.6)
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:22] <nws> oh
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:25] <nws> i shee
[27-Sep-2007 20:22:51] <MoreDakka_> I'm not touching my production envrionment until I know this build is stable.
[27-Sep-2007 20:25:02] <nws> heh
[27-Sep-2007 20:25:43] <MoreDakka_> And when I'm having this many problems importing data from a past build, I'm not really impressed.
[27-Sep-2007 20:37:40] <MoreDakka_> strange, now I'm getting that "No module named Globals" error that your getting. Wanted to try another export of the data and it's b0rked.
[27-Sep-2007 20:40:57] <nws> no
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:01] <nws> wait
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:09] <nws> are you running it as 'zenoss'?
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:17] <MoreDakka_> Yeah tried as root and zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:32] <MoreDakka_> exact same error
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:35] <nws> do it as zenoss but remember to export all the envvars
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:44] <MoreDakka_> eh?
[27-Sep-2007 20:41:50] <nws> or source a '.profile' with the envvars in it
[27-Sep-2007 20:42:29] <nws> $ZENHOME, $PYTHONPATH, and $PATH
[27-Sep-2007 20:42:38] <nws> when those are exported, it will work
[27-Sep-2007 20:43:03] <MoreDakka_> So yeah...I'm a linux nub, I'm not sure what to do on that.
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:04] <nws> ok, in /home/zenoss, create a file called '.profile'
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:27] <nws> and inside it, write out the lines...
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:32] <nws> ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:37] <nws> PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:41] <nws> PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH
[27-Sep-2007 20:44:56] <nws> and then do '. ~/.profile'
[27-Sep-2007 20:45:03] <nws> then try running the script again
[27-Sep-2007 20:46:48] <MoreDakka_> bash: .~/.profile: No such file or directory
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:01] <MoreDakka_> but in the /home/zenoss I have a .profile
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:15] <eeurowerk> no . before the tilde
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:21] <nws> there is a space between '.' and '~'
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:21] <eeurowerk> just ~/.profile
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:38] <nws> the . sources the file
[27-Sep-2007 20:47:51] <eeurowerk> oh ok
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:08] <eeurowerk> don't you have to run `source`?
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:14] <eeurowerk> source ~/.profile
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:15] <eeurowerk> ?
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:15] <nws> no
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:18] <eeurowerk> hrm
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:19] <nws> the . does it
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:23] <eeurowerk> i see
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:24] <eeurowerk> never knew that
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:25] <nws> its pretty much the same
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:32] <nws> you can read up on the differences
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:42] <nws> im not well versed in them myself
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:50] <eeurowerk> i got a question
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:51] <nws> but in linux the '.' will do it well enough
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:53] <nws> and bash
[27-Sep-2007 20:48:57] <nws> bash is key
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:03] <eeurowerk> for monitoring websites
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:08] <eeurowerk> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:23] <eeurowerk> some of the other shells are nice but I've never liked them like I do bash
[27-Sep-2007 20:49:56] <nws> i think the dot works only in bash
[27-Sep-2007 20:50:58] <MoreDakka_> Nope, same error.
[27-Sep-2007 20:51:06] <eurowerke> aaah okay
[27-Sep-2007 20:53:37] <eurowerke> argh
[27-Sep-2007 20:54:24] <MoreDakka_> <-- giving up on zenoss upgrade for now....it's easier and less stressful to upgrade firmware on client's modems.
[27-Sep-2007 20:55:11] <davetoo> Modems?
[27-Sep-2007 20:55:13] <davetoo> how quaint
[27-Sep-2007 20:55:27] <nws> ya rly
[27-Sep-2007 20:56:08] <MoreDakka_> Sorry, radios
[27-Sep-2007 20:56:43] <MoreDakka_> There are still lots of modems out there...sheesh, not that quaint.
[27-Sep-2007 21:08:21] <progma> yah if your internet goes out, how will people get notified; modems on POTS still great for backup
[27-Sep-2007 21:09:20] <MoreDakka_> Gooooo ISDN....token-ring....way before my time but still had to learn about it ;-)
[27-Sep-2007 21:09:35] <MoreDakka_> (not saying ISDN=token-ring)
[27-Sep-2007 21:10:22] <davetoo> I had ISDN at home for a while
[27-Sep-2007 21:10:31] <davetoo> plus frame-relay
[27-Sep-2007 21:11:17] <MoreDakka_> frame-relay still isn't bad.
[27-Sep-2007 21:11:25] <progma> spids n bitsurfers
[27-Sep-2007 21:13:53] <fiXXXerMet> Does anyone know how to make the links between locations work, as show in http://www.zenoss.com/site-images/google-map_dashboard_thumb.png ?
[27-Sep-2007 21:15:16] <MoreDakka_> You have really good eyes...that is the smallest map ever
[27-Sep-2007 21:15:39] <fiXXXerMet> oops
[27-Sep-2007 21:15:43] <MoreDakka_> hehe
[27-Sep-2007 21:16:27] <fiXXXerMet> http://www.zenoss.com/site-images/google-map_dashboard.png
[27-Sep-2007 21:16:52] <MoreDakka_> Maybe they drew that in afterwards with paint?
[27-Sep-2007 21:17:08] <fiXXXerMet> lol
[27-Sep-2007 21:17:11] <fiXXXerMet> I hope not
[27-Sep-2007 21:32:53] <slimmpete> Okay I am getting zen heartbeat failure
[27-Sep-2007 21:32:57] <slimmpete> in zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 21:33:05] <slimmpete> anyone know what these are
[27-Sep-2007 21:33:24] <MoreDakka_> I think it means that the deamon is not responding within a certain amount of time.
[27-Sep-2007 21:33:41] <MoreDakka_> I always find that zenmodeler has that problem (in v1.1.1 anyways)
[27-Sep-2007 21:34:06] <MoreDakka_> And a reboot of zenmodeler every couple weeks is what fixes it.
[27-Sep-2007 21:34:16] <slimmpete> I am getting it for all zen processes
[27-Sep-2007 21:35:30] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:08] <eurowerke> whenever I try to log in to the site, it fails once then allows me in on the second try
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:14] <eurowerke> every time
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:19] <eurowerke> anyone have any ideas?
[27-Sep-2007 21:38:41] <eurowerke> i have restarted and rebooted the server already
[27-Sep-2007 21:39:09] <eurowerke> the only difference is that I changed the DNS entry for the server... at first there were two but that caused other problems, so I deleted the old one
[27-Sep-2007 21:39:36] <eurowerke> i assume this is a part of the reason for it, but I don't know where to start to fix it
[27-Sep-2007 21:52:44] <slimmpete> Anyone know how to read unknown oids?
[27-Sep-2007 21:53:06] <slimmpete> fom a particular system
[27-Sep-2007 21:55:34] <eurowerke> slimmpete: what do you mean by unknown oids?
[27-Sep-2007 21:55:57] <slimmpete> I am sending snmp traps to zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 21:56:12] <slimmpete> and I am having difficulty with it
[27-Sep-2007 21:56:26] <eurowerke> do you have the MIBs for the device that's sending traps installed?
[27-Sep-2007 21:58:02] <slimmpete> I copied all the mibs from /usr/share/snmp/mibs
[27-Sep-2007 21:58:21] <slimmpete> from the server and loaded them into Zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 21:59:33] <eurowerke> what is the device sending traps?
[27-Sep-2007 21:59:49] <slimmpete> zenmib run and the directory to the mibs
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:16] <eurowerke> I mean, what sort of device is it that you have set up to send traps?
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:23] <eurowerke> or program, etc?
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:48] <slimmpete> It is standard linux install
[27-Sep-2007 22:00:58] <slimmpete> RHEL 4
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:13] <slimmpete> I am guessing it is a system issue
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:25] <eurowerke> ?
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:29] <slimmpete> I setup traps and now I can get traps
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:33] <eurowerke> so you're having the linux server send traps?
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:40] <slimmpete> correct
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:48] <eurowerke> that is what I was asking
[27-Sep-2007 22:01:55] <slimmpete> Okay
[27-Sep-2007 22:02:01] <slimmpete> sorry
[27-Sep-2007 22:02:03] <eurowerke> so what's your problem?
[27-Sep-2007 22:02:08] <slimmpete> for the confusion
[27-Sep-2007 22:03:30] <slimmpete> It is sending traps like... snmp trap 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17 from
[27-Sep-2007 22:04:01] <slimmpete> do we know how to read this oid
[27-Sep-2007 22:04:02] <slimmpete> ?
[27-Sep-2007 22:04:18] <slimmpete> is there a linux utility that lets you know what that means
[27-Sep-2007 22:05:36] <eurowerke> well
[27-Sep-2007 22:05:44] <eurowerke> there is the standard set of OIDs I believe
[27-Sep-2007 22:05:58] <eurowerke> then there are oids that are mfr specific
[27-Sep-2007 22:06:17] <eurowerke> so let's see here...
[27-Sep-2007 22:06:18] <MoreDakka_> snmpwalk -v1 -c<community> -OT <device> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17 ? That might work
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:02] <eurowerke> the -OT switch will allow you to see the actual text label for that OID
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:05] <eurowerke> if it is supported
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:25] <slimmpete> okay let me try
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:59] <eurowerke> lol MoreDakka_ if I'd have known that was all he wanted I'd have said that a while ago
[27-Sep-2007 22:07:59] <eurowerke> haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:08:47] <slimmpete> okay returned nothing
[27-Sep-2007 22:09:22] <slimmpete> That means that it isn't supported
[27-Sep-2007 22:09:39] <MoreDakka_> haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:09:56] <MoreDakka_> Try it without the -OT
[27-Sep-2007 22:10:17] <slimmpete> still nothing
[27-Sep-2007 22:10:23] <eurowerke> is your command:
[27-Sep-2007 22:10:52] <eurowerke> snmpwalk -v1 -c public localhost 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17?
[27-Sep-2007 22:11:16] <slimmpete> snmpwalk -v1 -c <rocommunity string> <server name> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17
[27-Sep-2007 22:11:22] <slimmpete> correct
[27-Sep-2007 22:11:37] <eurowerke> try 127.0.0.1 for <device>
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:38] <slimmpete> all no help
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:41] <eurowerke> d0h
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:41] <eurowerke> yeah
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:42] <slimmpete> localhost
[27-Sep-2007 22:12:43] <eurowerke> no support
[27-Sep-2007 22:13:27] <slimmpete> so why would a system send a trap with non supported MIB
[27-Sep-2007 22:13:38] <eurowerke> LOL
[27-Sep-2007 22:13:40] <eurowerke> i have no clue
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:07] <eurowerke> are you using Net-SNMP?
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:07] <slimmpete> maybe someone is trying to play trick and send snmptrap manually'
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:13] <slimmpete> yes
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:16] <slimmpete> it stinks
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:19] <slimmpete> I hate it
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:36] <eurowerke> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0.0.17wow
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:42] <eurowerke> woops
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:45] <slimmpete> I have looked for other agents but no one has been able to give me any help
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:52] <eurowerke> a search of google for that OID even returns NO results
[27-Sep-2007 22:14:58] <slimmpete> Yeha
[27-Sep-2007 22:15:02] <slimmpete> yeah*
[27-Sep-2007 22:15:42] <eurowerke> could be some proprietary OID from something
[27-Sep-2007 22:15:52] <eurowerke> i'm fairly new to this oid/mib stuff
[27-Sep-2007 22:16:00] <eurowerke> snmp stuff in general, I should say
[27-Sep-2007 22:16:00] <MoreDakka_> OMG it's a USELESS OID!!!11!!!
[27-Sep-2007 22:16:03] <MoreDakka_> ;=-)
[27-Sep-2007 22:17:06] <MoreDakka_> Oo....killed the conversation :-/
[27-Sep-2007 22:17:32] <eurowerke> haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:17:41] <slimmpete> I'll see if any of you guys know of any good snmp/trap agent that is better and easier to configur then net-snmpd
[27-Sep-2007 22:18:15] <eurowerke> i don't know of anything "better" but perhaps easier to configure
[27-Sep-2007 22:18:29] <slimmpete> okay?
[27-Sep-2007 22:19:57] <MoreDakka_> Yeah there isn't much better.
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:24] <slimmpete> how about easier to configure?
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:25] <MoreDakka_> snmpd is the easiest I've seen.
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:42] <slimmpete> hahahahah
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:57] <MoreDakka_> doesn't have the net
[27-Sep-2007 22:20:59] <MoreDakka_> ;-)
[27-Sep-2007 22:22:00] <slimmpete> can you tell me then why net-snmpd does not send any traps to zenoss
[27-Sep-2007 22:22:16] <slimmpete> I made a rule such that
[27-Sep-2007 22:23:38] <slimmpete> trapsink monitor public
[27-Sep-2007 22:23:48] <slimmpete> trapcommunity public
[27-Sep-2007 22:23:56] <slimmpete> disk / 99%
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:13] <slimmpete> hahaha it should be sending traps like crazy
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:29] <slimmpete> but not a single trap
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:40] <slimmpete> I have both a snmpd.local.conf
[27-Sep-2007 22:24:45] <slimmpete> and snmp.conf
[27-Sep-2007 22:27:26] <MoreDakka_> well hmmm....I hope you didn't listen to anything I had to say about snmp....as I don't know much about that cause I was thinking of syslog vs syslog-ng haha
[27-Sep-2007 22:32:19] <slimmpete> Sep 27 18:21:36 int01 kernel: audit(1190931696.900:12213): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=4596 comm="snmpd" name="/" dev=sda1 ino=2 scontext=root:system_r:snmpd_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:boot_t tclass=dir
[27-Sep-2007 22:38:52] <slimmpete> Okay I give up
[27-Sep-2007 22:38:55] <slimmpete> Take care guys
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[28-Sep-2007 08:38:51] <Freak> what do I set as DataPoints for a nagios check_disk Data Source?
[28-Sep-2007 08:39:04] <Freak> I mean.. I can't set / as the name of a data point
[28-Sep-2007 09:27:40] <oddjobz> Helloo, can anyone tell me how to add devices to the Google map on Beta 2.1 ?
[28-Sep-2007 10:02:19] <indigo423> gratulations to beta 2.1
really nice features added.[28-Sep-2007 10:42:05] <petemc> im trying out the vmware image, the login credentials as per the faq dont work, can i reset that from the console?
[28-Sep-2007 10:49:12] <petemc> nm
[28-Sep-2007 11:09:06] <Freak> I compiled zenoss from the trunk directory, isnt that the latest development? because it still says it was 2.0.6
[28-Sep-2007 11:10:15] <Freak> or isnt that being updated when I keep the database?
[28-Sep-2007 11:55:09] <indigo423> hi at if try to discover a network, i got the following error: Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor"
[28-Sep-2007 12:00:38] <oddjobz> Anyone know anything about how the network diagram chooses what to display ?
[28-Sep-2007 12:41:53] <Freak> darn. I'm trying to install trunk, but installing the database keeps failing no matter what I try
[28-Sep-2007 12:49:06] <Freak> ah finally. it seems the problem is that I try to install to /u/l/zenoss from /u/tmp/trunk/inst
[28-Sep-2007 12:49:27] <Freak> but the installation seems to have put everything under /u/tmp/trunk/
[28-Sep-2007 12:53:58] <onicrom> morning gents
[28-Sep-2007 13:29:34] <Freak> "On the Status tab of every location is an "Address" row, with an "Edit" link beside it." -- I dont see it.
[28-Sep-2007 13:30:19] <Freak> and it still tells me its version number was 2.0.6
[28-Sep-2007 13:30:27] <Freak> I even flushed my database by now
[28-Sep-2007 13:30:39] <Freak> I dont get it .. *sigh*
[28-Sep-2007 14:00:54] <nws> so, what good does the data migration do when it gets rid of all the configs and all historical data?
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:19] <Merciless>
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:19] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:21] <Merciless> grrr
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:25] <Merciless> when monitoring any windows server
[28-Sep-2007 14:08:28] <Merciless> any idea how to disable that?
[28-Sep-2007 14:16:11] <MoreDakka_> haha...nws, you haven't ripped your hair out yet?
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:31] <nws> no, the upgrade is done
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:36] <nws> im just tired of this crap
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:42] <nws> this is why i run nagios
[28-Sep-2007 14:31:57] <nws> but we use zenoss for other things
[28-Sep-2007 14:33:50] <Merciless> Zenoss Zenoss 2.0.91 r6790
[28-Sep-2007 14:33:54] <Merciless> how do i upgrade to 2.1
[28-Sep-2007 14:34:44] <nws> 2.1 isn't out
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:02] <nws> just the pre 2.1 stuff
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:06] <Merciless> oops mis-read email
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:13] <nws> and for whatever reason, they call it 2.1
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:14] <onicrom> im jsut trying to get the vmware version going
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:16] <MoreDakka_> nws did you get the import done?
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:26] <nws> yea, the import finished
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:32] <MoreDakka_> how'd you get it working?
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:40] <nws> but now i feel like i need to read the scripts to see what was imported
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:55] <MoreDakka_> How many devices?
[28-Sep-2007 14:35:56] <nws> cause it wasnt any of the configs or data
[28-Sep-2007 14:36:03] <nws> less than 100
[28-Sep-2007 14:36:08] <nws> but still
[28-Sep-2007 14:36:40] <MoreDakka_> What was broken in the script that was stopping your import yesterday?
[28-Sep-2007 14:37:12] <nws> not much
[28-Sep-2007 14:37:26] <nws> but it was in both the build-funtions and install.sh
[28-Sep-2007 14:37:53] <nws> the build-functions should prompt for mysql usernames and passwords
[28-Sep-2007 14:38:36] <nws> and the install.sh should be tarring the backup to a separate directory, like /tmp
[28-Sep-2007 14:39:04] <nws> i should go through their scripts and do a diff and send them the patches
[28-Sep-2007 14:41:18] <MoreDakka_> haha
[28-Sep-2007 14:49:31] <Merciless> by default zenoss uses ping to tell whether a server is up or down.. ive told zenoss to ignore ping, but im still getting an event saying its down even though its not (just doesnt accept ping)
[28-Sep-2007 14:49:44] <Merciless> how do I stop events for ping being down on that server only, and use a MIB instead
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:16] <nws> 'ignore ping'?
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:18] <MoreDakka_> If you have told it to ignore ping then it will ignore it. For some reason it can take a bunch of cycles to be able to ignore it...not sure why.
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:33] <nws> ah
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:49] <MoreDakka_> nwa == "The Master of the Obvious"
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:51] <MoreDakka_> ;-)
[28-Sep-2007 14:50:56] <MoreDakka_> nws even
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:01] <nws> psh
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:10] <nws> thats what i like about check_dummy
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[28-Sep-2007 14:51:21] <MoreDakka> check_dummy?
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:29] <nws> its a nagios plugin
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:36] <MoreDakka> nagios plugin? hehe...what does it do?
[28-Sep-2007 14:51:57] <nws> its a dummy check, it just shows "UP"
[28-Sep-2007 14:52:41] <MoreDakka> In some aspects Nagios is much better than Zenoss...it the aspect of Pretty, Zenoss takes that quite easily.
[28-Sep-2007 14:52:51] <nws> that way you can have service or host checks run and it will never show down
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:09] <nws> MoreDakka: nagios is being rewritten at the moment
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:15] <nws> 3.0 will be out soon
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:33] <nws> AND the interface will hopefully be rewritten in php
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:38] <MoreDakka> I like that 3d network map. that's fun
[28-Sep-2007 14:53:52] <nws> vrml is so old and useless
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:08] <nws> its really obsolete
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:19] <nws> but the 2d map is great
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:19] <MoreDakka> I've never even used vml before.
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:38] <nws> vrml is how the 3d map is generated
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:50] <MoreDakka> ahhh.
[28-Sep-2007 14:54:57] <nws> the 2d map is generated based on "parents" in the host configs
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:02] <MoreDakka> I see Nagios v3.04b...I'm assuming the b is beta
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:07] <nws> yep
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:10] <MoreDakka> bah
[28-Sep-2007 14:55:36] <MoreDakka> maybe I'll give it a shot today and see what it looks like and see if we should reconsider that...my boss likes Zenoss though.
[28-Sep-2007 14:56:16] <MoreDakka> This google maps addon is quite nice since we have soo many oil field sites that are out in the middle of no where and sometimes need to know where it is...
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:07] <oddjobz> Hi, Can anyone tell me how to use the HTTP zenpack now I have it installed?
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:21] <nws> my boss likes zenoss too
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:28] <nws> but nagios is still the bomb
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:50] <nws> however, there is a learning curve on the configs
[28-Sep-2007 14:57:59] <oddjobz> Curve?
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:06] <oddjobz> Vertical Cliff maybe ...
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:29] <nws> oddjobz: i take it you gave up on nagios because of that?
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:41] <oddjobz> Nope , we ran it for a while ...
[28-Sep-2007 14:58:46] <nws> and?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:08] <oddjobz> It just became to much of a problem when upgrades made the configs incompatible between versions ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:10] <MoreDakka> haha
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:32] <nws> configs became incompatible between versions?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:36] <nws> what?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:37] <oddjobz> It takes soooooo long to configure Nagios, once it's "right", you just want to leave it alone ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:40] <nws> what versions?
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:43] <oddjobz> Yup ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:50] <oddjobz> Dunno, this was 12 months ago now ..
[28-Sep-2007 14:59:55] <nws> psh
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:01] <oddjobz> We had to upgrade to keep track with Ubuntu ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:13] <nws> lol@ubuntu
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:17] <oddjobz> Configus went to pot after the upgrade ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:31] <nws> were they overwritten?
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:36] <nws> did you not back them up?
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:39] <oddjobz> Anyway, I just installed 2.1b from scratch and added 10 hosts in under an hour ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:49] <oddjobz> THEY DID NOT WORK!
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:55] <nws> arite
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:57] <nws> simma down
[28-Sep-2007 15:00:59] <MoreDakka> In zenoss or nagios?
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:08] <oddjobz> This is nagios
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:23] <oddjobz> Which is why I'm trying zenoss
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:46] <oddjobz> Oh, did I mention the UI/configuration on nagios is rubbish ?
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:57] <oddjobz> And Zenoss is excellent ..
[28-Sep-2007 15:01:57] <nws> ha ha
[28-Sep-2007 15:02:03] <oddjobz> Well
[28-Sep-2007 15:02:21] <oddjobz> It would be if I could figure out how some of this new 2.1b stuff was actually supposed to work ...
[28-Sep-2007 15:02:28] <Merciless> anyone know why a routing table on a freebsd box would have the whole of the internet in it as cloned static routes? :s
[28-Sep-2007 15:03:08] <oddjobz> Because you are running a badly configured BGP4 router? zebra or similar?
[28-Sep-2007 15:03:27] <oddjobz> Anyone know how to use a Zenpak?
[28-Sep-2007 15:04:28] <oddjobz> Mmm, thought as much ...
[28-Sep-2007 15:07:35] <Merciless> oddjobz -- no routing protocol on the device
[28-Sep-2007 15:16:51] <progma> < oddjobz> Vertical Cliff maybe ... <-- hahaha
[28-Sep-2007 15:17:14] <nws> grab your pitons and lets go
[28-Sep-2007 15:20:00] <monrad> anyone knows if its possible to "decompile" binary mib files?
[28-Sep-2007 15:24:10] <oddjobz> Merciless, if you have a huge route table, it can really only be a routing daemon .. are you running ospf?
[28-Sep-2007 15:29:31] <Merciless> na no routing protocols at all
[28-Sep-2007 15:29:35] <Merciless> just one static route entered for a default route
[28-Sep-2007 15:29:49] <Merciless> im confused as hell.. never seen it before
[28-Sep-2007 15:30:06] <Merciless> maybe a trojan im thinking :/
[28-Sep-2007 15:30:17] <oddjobz> What do you get with netstat -rn | wc -l ?
[28-Sep-2007 15:39:40] <Merciless> fw[admin]# netstat -rn | wc -l
[28-Sep-2007 15:39:40] <Merciless> 393946
[28-Sep-2007 15:39:40] <Merciless> fw[admin]# fw[admin]#
[28-Sep-2007 15:59:51] <MoreDakka> Oooo fun. Just did a fresh install (via rpm) of 2.0.91 and first thing I did was click on Locations and it puked errors all over me....gross.
[28-Sep-2007 16:36:03] <progma> MoreDakka: from what version
[28-Sep-2007 16:36:31] <MoreDakka> fresh
[28-Sep-2007 16:38:44] <progma> oh duh
[28-Sep-2007 16:38:56] <progma> well i guess i'm not upgrading to that then
[28-Sep-2007 16:43:41] <MoreDakka> Other people are having luck with the install though.
[28-Sep-2007 16:44:47] <MoreDakka> I had 2.0.90 going for a bit until I tried to import data from our production box then I borked that install pretty bad. i can't get zen2load.py working properly...it breaks zenoss every time.
[28-Sep-2007 17:24:26] <MoreDakka> Anyone know where I can get MySQL client & server standard 5.0.26? The dependencies file on the Zenoss site contain 5.0.24a and the 'a' is breaking the 2.0.91 beta software...
[28-Sep-2007 17:27:44] <Trojaneyez> I'm in /Networks and am wanting to add some 10.0.0.0/21 and other various /21 networks but it's putting them as /24 is there a way around this?
[28-Sep-2007 17:28:34] <davetoo> Zenoss seems to want to add the networks there by itself, as part of the router-discovery process.
[28-Sep-2007 17:28:58] <Trojaneyez> davetoo that is what i was thinking, but I wasn't sure how it's "Network Discovery" Truly worked
[28-Sep-2007 17:29:02] <davetoo> My current procedure for a new system is to run "zendisc run --routers" as the first step after the install.
[28-Sep-2007 17:29:21] <davetoo> well, you have to have snmpd running correctly on the local machine first, for it to pull a route map.
[28-Sep-2007 17:29:47] <davetoo> Then it searches outward for all the routers for which it has valid snmp credentials.
[28-Sep-2007 17:30:08] <Trojaneyez> hmm
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:19] <progma> MoreDakka: i had to use this repo for rhel4: http://remi.collet.free.fr/index.php?2005/10/02/8-telechargement-installation-et-yum
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Téléchargement, installation, YUM, APT et SMART - Les RPM de Remi (at remi.collet.free.fr)
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:45] <progma> MoreDakka: i still had to install by ignoring deps though
[28-Sep-2007 17:34:48] <davetoo> yes, yes, yes... stupid bot
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:08] <progma> MoreDakka: as i have a number of other deps like php-pdo that just wouldn't cooperate
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:21] <progma> that's good though
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:24] <MoreDakka> I'm going to see if 2.0.90 has the same issue...I don't think it does.
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:26] <progma> the url verify
[28-Sep-2007 17:35:46] <Trojaneyez> leave #nagios
[28-Sep-2007 17:36:46] <davetoo> behind
[28-Sep-2007 17:36:48] <davetoo>
[28-Sep-2007 17:46:57] <MoreDakka> Well looks like they introduced some problems going frmo 2.0.90 -> 2.0.91
[28-Sep-2007 17:47:12] <MoreDakka> mysql 24a doesn't work on 2.0.91 but works no problem in 2.0.90
[28-Sep-2007 17:55:09] <MoreDakka> Bah, working with the beta is quite frustrating. zentrap, actions, syslog and ping deamons won't start up...
[28-Sep-2007 17:55:22] <MoreDakka> and zenmodeler is all broken.
[28-Sep-2007 17:59:07] <pablo26> hi all
[28-Sep-2007 18:02:21] <pablo26> can i create a template for a group?
[28-Sep-2007 18:03:32] <pablo26> or template are just for devices?
[28-Sep-2007 18:24:30] <Dan000892> i don't see a Template tab for groups or subgroups, so I'd guess no
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[28-Sep-2007 18:32:04] <davetoo> No ... when I mentioned it months ago, EAD said that he was thinking about how to do that,
[28-Sep-2007 18:32:26] <davetoo> but all we've got so far is the ability to mix-in additional Device templates.
[28-Sep-2007 18:55:57] <exothermc> is there a view that shows what are the current errors or warnings?
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:05] <exothermc> Like say a service goes down and throws a warning but then comes back up. A view that wouldn't show that, but would show all services that are still currently down.
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:31] <davetoo> "Events"
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:36] <davetoo> vs. "History"
[28-Sep-2007 18:57:40] <exothermc> Just really nice with other monitoring systems we have used in the past to have a view that says "what is broken now"
[28-Sep-2007 18:58:05] <exothermc> But isn't the flapped service still listed in events even when it comes back up?
[28-Sep-2007 18:58:14] <exothermc> as an event which failed.
[28-Sep-2007 18:59:02] <davetoo> When the failed condition is cleared, and the poller gets around to it again, the event will be cleared
[28-Sep-2007 18:59:17] <davetoo> in the History you'll see the "clear"-priority event that cleared it.
[28-Sep-2007 19:00:08] <exothermc> ahh ic
[28-Sep-2007 19:10:54] <exothermc> How long does it take for the poller to refresh?
[28-Sep-2007 19:11:05] <exothermc> I'm only monitoring 1 host right now
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[28-Sep-2007 19:40:02] <pablo26> i'm getting some error with windows servers ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[28-Sep-2007 19:40:04] <pablo26> any idea?
[28-Sep-2007 19:41:36] <pablo26> i can see all the info i need even the performance graphs
[28-Sep-2007 19:44:19] <Dan000892> pablo: are you trying to wmi? do you have zproperties configured with user&pass?
[28-Sep-2007 19:45:07] <pablo26> mmm is wmi by default?
[28-Sep-2007 19:45:43] <Dan000892> no it should have wmiIgnore on by default
[28-Sep-2007 19:46:01] <Dan000892> perhaps another question is in order
[28-Sep-2007 19:46:05] <Dan000892> are you still getting this error?
[28-Sep-2007 19:46:12] <Dan000892> or was it a one-time event?
[28-Sep-2007 19:47:03] <pablo26> mmm zWmiMonitorIgnore is set to false
[28-Sep-2007 19:47:08] <pablo26> and i dindt change that
[28-Sep-2007 19:47:45] <pablo26> what advantages do i have enabling wmi?
[28-Sep-2007 19:48:24] <Dan000892> more info... i haven't really looked into it because we're setting up monitoring for remote systems as well and we don't want RPC open outside to support WMI pulls
[28-Sep-2007 19:48:55] <Dan000892> WMI does a lot... service states, running processes just to start
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:07] <pablo26> i'll give it a try
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:08] <Dan000892> but as I said, I don't know what Zenoss can pull
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:39] <Dan000892> and we don't feel comfortable running "netsh firewall set service RemoteAdmin enable" on the remote windows boxen
[28-Sep-2007 19:49:50] <Dan000892> this line should give even the greenest sysadmin pause
[28-Sep-2007 19:51:47] <pablo26> i'll try it on the dev servers if i get intresting info i see what i can do
[28-Sep-2007 20:10:50] <eurowerke> why doesn't zenperfxmlrpc start when you run zenoss start
[28-Sep-2007 20:10:51] <eurowerke> ?
[28-Sep-2007 20:10:53] <eurowerke> anyone know?
[28-Sep-2007 20:14:30] <explody> Zenoss doesn't support any database other than mysql, right?
[28-Sep-2007 20:16:48] <b52laptop> explody, if you submit a patch that make zenoss work with postgresql please tell me
[28-Sep-2007 20:17:03] <b52laptop> explody, no by default zenoss use mysql
[28-Sep-2007 20:17:15] <explody> yeah I might have to do that
[28-Sep-2007 20:17:43] <explody> I haven't looked at the schema yet really though, any idea if it's actually using mysql-specific features?
[28-Sep-2007 20:18:18] <b52laptop> no sorry
,[28-Sep-2007 20:21:31] <Lorax> oh great, a zenoss community here too.
[28-Sep-2007 20:29:26] <pablo26> bye guys see u on monday
[28-Sep-2007 21:45:13] <mutil8> i just installed Zenoss and when i try to run the network discovery i get "Error: option --monitor: conflicting option string(s): --monitor"
[28-Sep-2007 21:46:37] <mutil8> anybody familiar with that error?
[28-Sep-2007 21:49:03] <MoreDakka> heh, what is the command to run network discovery? Didn't know that could be done manually.
[28-Sep-2007 21:49:14] <MoreDakka> can't help you with your error though:(
[28-Sep-2007 21:50:37] <mutil8> on the web interface it's an option under networks
[28-Sep-2007 21:51:07] <mutil8> /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net <network>
[28-Sep-2007 21:51:11] <mutil8> that's the command it runs
[28-Sep-2007 21:52:42] <MoreDakka> Thanks, I'll give that a try when I get something other than 2.1 beta that isn't working on my server.
[28-Sep-2007 21:53:04] <mutil8> i'm also unable to add a device
[28-Sep-2007 21:53:09] <mutil8> if i try to do it manually
[28-Sep-2007 21:53:18] <mutil8> doesn't give me an error, but the device never shows up in the device listings
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:11] <MoreDakka> Yeesh, sorry I can't help you, I only know v1.1.1 and a bit of 2.1beta.
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:26] <mutil8> ah
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:29] <mutil8> ok, no worries
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:37] <mutil8> think i should try the 1.x branch?
[28-Sep-2007 21:54:50] <MoreDakka> naw, try to learn the 2.x branch.
[28-Sep-2007 21:55:01] <MoreDakka> there are quite a few enhancements with 2.x
[28-Sep-2007 21:55:12] <MoreDakka> Are you on 2.0.6?
[28-Sep-2007 21:55:21] <MoreDakka> (think that's the latest release)
[28-Sep-2007 22:05:54] <explody> hm. I don't see any kind of mysql-specific anything in the schema zenoss uses
[28-Sep-2007 22:06:22] <explody> the schema would take like 5 minutes to port to pgsql
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:04] <b52laptop> hm
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:12] <explody> don't get happy
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:26] <b52laptop>
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:30] <explody> mysql method names and things like that are embedded all over
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:45] <b52laptop> grr
[28-Sep-2007 22:13:58] <davetoo> store procedures/triggers too, no?
[28-Sep-2007 22:14:09] * davetoo doesn't really know anything about stored procedures/triggers, though.
[28-Sep-2007 22:14:12] <explody> it's all in Products/ZenEvents/ as far as I can see
[28-Sep-2007 22:14:27] <explody> I don't see any triggers or stored procedures
[28-Sep-2007 22:15:36] <explody> but the schema is the least of the trouble if there is no abstraction of the underlying DB
[28-Sep-2007 22:15:44] <explody> oh well, nice thought anyway
[28-Sep-2007 22:16:51] <davetoo> don't look complicated, but see .../ZenEvents/db/zenprocs.sql
[28-Sep-2007 22:23:19] <exothermc> When setting up zenoss to do auto discovery using snmp is there something that can be set out on the snmp server which will help link the device to a specific device class?
[28-Sep-2007 22:36:30] <davetoo> exothermc: unfortunately, not that I'm aware of.
[28-Sep-2007 22:36:49] <exothermc> hmm you would think this would be pretty basic.
[28-Sep-2007 22:37:12] <exothermc> How does the modeler determine if it is a router/printer/server etc.
[28-Sep-2007 22:41:44] <davetoo> It doesn't.
[28-Sep-2007 22:41:55] <davetoo> Everything ends up in /Discovered.
[28-Sep-2007 22:42:15] <davetoo> That's why I ended up writing an external Perl app to scan and probe our systems.
[28-Sep-2007 22:42:42] <davetoo> I saw some stub code in the source
[28-Sep-2007 22:43:02] <davetoo> something that looked like they were working on some kind of auto-classification a long time ago
[28-Sep-2007 22:48:10] <exothermc> well it does on some level so that isn't correct.
[28-Sep-2007 22:48:17] <exothermc> from the manual: "Routers discovered through this process will be placed in the device path /Network/Router."
[28-Sep-2007 22:54:17] <davetoo> AFAIK that's only with the --routers switch.
[28-Sep-2007 23:02:31] <eurowerke> anyone know a way to change sorting on the OS tab for say, a switch?
[28-Sep-2007 23:02:59] <eurowerke> so it will number ports sequentially instead of ascii (?) order?
[28-Sep-2007 23:03:23] <eurowerke> 1, 10, 11, 12 -> 1, 2, 3, 4....
[28-Sep-2007 23:04:41] <davetoo> I wish
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[30-Sep-2007 03:09:07] <JordanWilliams> anyone around that could give me a few pointers?
[30-Sep-2007 03:09:28] <JordanWilliams> i've got my zenoss system up and running.... i've added a few devices, and even added some IPServices to them...
[30-Sep-2007 03:09:49] <JordanWilliams> however, the monitoring of those services are always showing green status
[30-Sep-2007 03:10:23] <JordanWilliams> i've added obscure services that the systems wouldn't respond to in a million years, but the status is still green.
[30-Sep-2007 03:10:29] <JordanWilliams> is there something i'm missing?
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