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[01-Mar-2008 14:25:08] <EvilDin> hi, i have question, um why don't i get OS information from Device (i added Device --> SNMP) ?
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[03-Mar-2008 13:50:09] <klinstifen> morning...anyone awake in here?
[03-Mar-2008 14:40:42] <klinstifen> anyone in here? i have a quick question about heartbeats
[03-Mar-2008 15:08:09] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: what is your question?
[03-Mar-2008 15:15:05] <ke4qqq> klinstifen, long time no see - how is work coming on the exchange zenpack?
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:27] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: since that upgrade i did last week i am getting heartbeat errors from non existant devices.
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:47] <klinstifen> i'll get hearbeats from "zenossserver.mydomain.com.mydomain.com" and from "localhost"
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:55] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: did you do a zenmigrate?
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:59] <klinstifen> right now my zenoss server is listed in the devices as "localhost"
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:15] <klinstifen> but the heartbeats are for the actual server name...
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:21] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: i did
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:42] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: yeah man, long time now chat. i've been popping on from time to time to see if you are here. i finished that zenpack
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:50] <klinstifen> works pretty well, looks good.
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:02] <aurax> hello anyone around ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:04] <klinstifen> uses wmic to connect with exchange and then greps log info
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:12] <klinstifen> i can send it your way if you want
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:12] <Bulwinkle> stop all services besides zeoctl and do a zenmigrate
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:17] <ke4qqq> yeah I try and hang out and see if you are around, and end up seeing you in history.
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:18] <aurax> i got problems with zenoss - it's not starting
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:23] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: you ever finish that apache zenpack mod?
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:41] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: trying that now
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:53] <ke4qqq> unfortunately no, got distracted by postfix (need to push that out) and postgres......
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:22] <ke4qqq> those are almost ready to be packaged I think
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:32] <ke4qqq> (they have been working pretty well for me)
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:51] <aurax> any idea how to debug it...
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:57] <ke4qqq> aurax, what does it say when you tell it to start
[03-Mar-2008 15:21:15] <aurax> nothing actually... when i restart zenoss it's say's: Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[03-Mar-2008 15:21:40] <aurax> no connection to port 80
[03-Mar-2008 15:21:46] <aurax> nothing else grabs it
[03-Mar-2008 15:22:06] <aurax> can i paste freely here or pastbin ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:22:43] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: migration complete...gonna restart zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:00] <aurax> wow what happend to zenoss site ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:37] <klinstifen> aurax: what do you mean? zenoss.com looks like it has for several months
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:55] <aurax> it's empty of pictures here
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:57] <aurax> just text& css
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:07] <aurax> i think i've forgot to add to zenoss user .bashrc :
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:08] <aurax> export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:08] <aurax> export PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:08] <aurax> export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:49] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: got a heartbeat from servername.mydomain.com.mydomain.com for zenwinmodeler
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:49] <aurax> because when i ps aux i see some using python2.4 and some procs are using python
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:04] <aurax> any idea ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:13] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: *shrug*\
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:29] <klinstifen> lol
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:37] * klinstifen digs deeper
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:53] <klinstifen> ha! went away
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:55] <klinstifen> sigh
[03-Mar-2008 15:27:52] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: mine come and go....
[03-Mar-2008 15:29:06] <aurax> how can i debug those startup problems ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:30:23] <klinstifen> aurax: you could try, from console, zopectl run.
[03-Mar-2008 15:30:35] <klinstifen> that will run it in the foreground and then maybe you'll see what's going wrong
[03-Mar-2008 15:30:54] <aurax> ok
[03-Mar-2008 15:31:22] <aurax> daemon manager running; daemon process not running
[03-Mar-2008 15:32:00] <aurax> it started after i typed 'fg'
[03-Mar-2008 15:32:19] <aurax> when i use the init.d script it won't start..
[03-Mar-2008 15:33:57] <aurax> weird...
[03-Mar-2008 15:38:04] <klinstifen> what user are you when using the init.d script?
[03-Mar-2008 15:49:20] <aurax> root
[03-Mar-2008 15:50:13] <aurax> but i want zenoss to listen to port 80
[03-Mar-2008 15:50:20] <aurax> so it must have root priveleges
[03-Mar-2008 15:53:17] <aurax> or i should use apache with rewritemod engine..
[03-Mar-2008 15:55:20] <aurax> doh... i've changed zope.conf to port 80
[03-Mar-2008 15:55:29] <aurax> that why it didnt start unless i was doing it manually.
[03-Mar-2008 15:55:30] <aurax> oh well.
[03-Mar-2008 15:57:19] <klinstifen> aurax: oh yeah they're site looks messed up now
[03-Mar-2008 16:01:14] <klinstifen> anyone thing zentrap would fail if it thought my zenoss server name was something other than what it was?
[03-Mar-2008 16:07:14] <aurax> so if i want zenoss to run on port 80 i should use apache with rewrite...
[03-Mar-2008 16:11:25] <kgoedtel> that would just let you rewrite to 8080, to actually access it from port 80 you would need something like apache mod_proxy
[03-Mar-2008 16:12:59] <kgoedtel> if zope executes as non-root (zenosss user) it can't use a privileged port (< 1024)
[03-Mar-2008 16:30:37] <aurax> yep, i configured it as is from the doc's
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[03-Mar-2008 18:47:33] <PerlStalker> Why would I get the error "KeyError: 'deviceStatus'" when running zentestcommand?
[03-Mar-2008 18:53:16] <ke4qqq> I have a bonded interface that zenoss is detecting as capable of 10Mb/s. How can I change here.speed?
[03-Mar-2008 19:13:35] <EvilDin> hi, is here anyone ??
[03-Mar-2008 19:13:47] <EvilDin> i need help why my graphs are not shown ?
[03-Mar-2008 19:13:55] <EvilDin> in pref section of server ?
[03-Mar-2008 19:29:35] <twm1010> Anoyone around?
[03-Mar-2008 19:36:46] <EvilDin> it seem that nobody isn't here for quite some time
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:14] <idea4gud> hi guyz help me i am new to this ZENOSS actually using for first tiem
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:14] <idea4gud> also dont hav much idea bt Linux
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:30] <idea4gud> It says i dont hav zopectl zeoctl
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:49] <idea4gud> rest of daemons it starts without complaining
[03-Mar-2008 19:39:23] <idea4gud> and when i try http://myipaddess:8080 it says cant estblish connection
[03-Mar-2008 19:52:33] <EvilDin> probably you don't have port open
[03-Mar-2008 19:55:42] <Brixius> Hello I have a question, I have an event that I'm trying to map, and I want to say when evt.CondSeveraty = 5 it should match, I think I can put this in the rule but when I put it in there, it shows red
[03-Mar-2008 19:56:46] <Brixius> do I need to use "==" instead of "=" When I do it changes to black. but that would seem weird because under transform I only have to use a single = to set a value.
[03-Mar-2008 19:57:20] <Brixius> oh, wait, I think I just got it, is == is a test, not an assignment?
[03-Mar-2008 19:58:23] <Brixius> can someone confirm that for me?
[03-Mar-2008 20:00:16] <idea4gud> hi can any1 elp me
[03-Mar-2008 20:00:38] <idea4gud> I am tryin to run zenoss but it says doesnt hav zeoctl or zopectl
[03-Mar-2008 20:01:58] <PerlStalker> Why would I get the error "KeyError: 'deviceStatus'" when running zentestcommand?
[03-Mar-2008 20:05:36] <EvilDin> anyone know how to get graphs working ?
[03-Mar-2008 20:17:19] <idea4gud> hi wat happnd to the room,
[03-Mar-2008 20:17:40] <idea4gud> can any1 share their knowledge with a newbie like me
[03-Mar-2008 20:18:18] <Brixius> this room is usually really quiet, kindof a shame really
[03-Mar-2008 20:19:39] <idea4gud> i am gettin this wrror wrkin on 3 days
[03-Mar-2008 20:19:43] <idea4gud> no progress
[03-Mar-2008 20:19:50] <idea4gud> i found an some links
[03-Mar-2008 20:20:08] <idea4gud> but since i am new to Linux cant really comprehend
[03-Mar-2008 20:21:52] <Brixius> I wish I could get some help myself, I'm a relitive noob too, one would think event mapping would be documented better, or there would be more tutorials on using the fields, since that's the core of zenoss.
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:09] <idea4gud> k were u able to setup prply
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:13] <idea4gud> with out any hiccups
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:28] <idea4gud> its complains tht i dont hav Zeoctl and Zopectl
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:38] <idea4gud> i am just follwin the installation guide
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:39] <Brixius> I'm using the vmware appliance
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:45] <idea4gud> k
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:53] <idea4gud> so its all done for u
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:08] <idea4gud> so wat OS r u runnin on it
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:32] <Brixius> it's alot easier to use it to figure out how to use it. You can down load vmware player(free) or server(also free) to run the image.
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:42] <idea4gud> i hav Vmware server runnin CENTOS
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:54] <idea4gud> on Centos i am tryin to setup Zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 20:26:02] <Brixius> I'm running a test image on my windows desktop, and a prod image in VMware ESX
[03-Mar-2008 20:26:38] <Brixius> ESX = Not free
[03-Mar-2008 20:33:11] <twm1010> GSX is free tho
[03-Mar-2008 20:33:26] <Brixius> GSX doesn't exist anymore, it's server
[03-Mar-2008 20:50:06] <locohost> can anyone shed any light on http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Zope/Zope-And-MySQL/4/ ?
[03-Mar-2008 20:50:40] <locohost> mine if failing on the part where it displays the results of my querie
[03-Mar-2008 20:52:22] <locohost> tests okay in the zope manager, but the result is blank when i view dtml method
[03-Mar-2008 20:54:44] <Brixius> how do I start individual modules in zenoss? ie zenwin, etc...
[03-Mar-2008 20:57:21] <locohost> wish i could help you. Im having a bit of trouble liking it with mysql
[03-Mar-2008 21:03:59] <locohost> is there anybody out there? just nod if you can here me, is there anyone at home.
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <dtml-var standard_html_header>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <h2>Devices</h2>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <ul>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <dtml-in selectAllMethod>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <li><dtml-var name>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:27] <locohost> <br>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:29] <locohost> <font size="-1"><a href="edit?id=<dtml-var id>">edit</a> | <a
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:33] <locohost> href="delete?id=<dtml-var
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:35] <locohost> id>">delete</a></font>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:37] <locohost> <p>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:39] <locohost> </dtml-in>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:41] <locohost> </ul>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:43] <locohost> <a href="add">Add
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:45] <locohost> a new DVD</a>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:47] <locohost> <dtml-var standard_html_footer>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:56] <locohost> <dtml-var name> does not return anything
[03-Mar-2008 21:07:04] <Brixius> pastebin, use a pastebin, like pastebin.ca
[03-Mar-2008 21:07:59] <locohost> hrm, not sure i follow
[03-Mar-2008 21:09:02] <Brixius> the way it's usually done in irc, is to goto a pastebin site like pastebin.ca, paste your code that your working with there, then post a link to it in the channel
[03-Mar-2008 21:09:29] <Brixius> pastebin will generate a unique short url just for what you pasted
[03-Mar-2008 21:09:51] <locohost> ahh, i got ya, thanks.
[03-Mar-2008 21:10:29] <Brixius> ie http://pastebin.ca/926805
[03-Mar-2008 21:10:36] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Brix's test - post number 926805 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Mar-2008 21:11:15] <Brixius> see then the bot even goes and grabs more info for the channel to see.
[03-Mar-2008 21:17:53] <locohost> If anyone coululd help me with http://pastebin.ca/926821 that would be great.
[03-Mar-2008 21:18:00] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - zope-mysql selectAllMethod not r - post number 926821 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Mar-2008 21:18:02] <locohost> I am sure im doing something simple wrong
[03-Mar-2008 21:19:35] <Brixius> Is this in ZenOSS? or a general zope question?
[03-Mar-2008 21:21:24] <locohost> zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 21:21:42] <locohost> im trying to integrate it with an existing mysql cmdb
[03-Mar-2008 21:22:13] <locohost> are you suggesting that i would have better luck in zope specific forum?
[03-Mar-2008 21:22:41] <Brixius> no, I just wasn't sure. I'm no expert in zenoss myself.
[03-Mar-2008 21:27:35] <locohost> yeah, im pretty good with snmp, but all this zope crap is new
[03-Mar-2008 22:31:09] <bush|werk> hm, how much space should zenoss take up after install? i have less than a gig left with a minimal debian install
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[03-Mar-2008 23:03:06] <wassy121> bush: I got about 583MB in /opt/zenoss. Maybe a small amount more in /home/zenoss as needed.
[03-Mar-2008 23:07:05] <bush|werk> iiiiiinteresting...
[03-Mar-2008 23:07:12] <bush|werk> 3.2GB used
[03-Mar-2008 23:21:37] <wassy121> du -sh /opt/zenoss/*
[03-Mar-2008 23:35:32] <bush|werk> hm
[03-Mar-2008 23:35:33] <bush|werk> opt is empty
[03-Mar-2008 23:52:33] <idea4gud> zenoss doesnt hav zopectl and zeoctl
[03-Mar-2008 23:52:37] <idea4gud> any suggestions
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[04-Mar-2008 14:16:54] <locohost> anyone know how i can reference my current host within dtml? ${device/id} does not seem to work.
[04-Mar-2008 15:31:53] <Bulwinkle> Anyone know how to make it so that if one of my interfaces goes down I get an alert?
[04-Mar-2008 15:39:57] <twm1010> Well does an event get generated when it goes down?
[04-Mar-2008 15:41:46] <locohost> mayby a cron on the host that watches all the zenoss processes?
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:39] <locohost> var2=`snmpwalk myip -c community host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName|grep -i processname|awk '{print $3}'|sed 's/"//g'`
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:40] <locohost> if [ $var2 = "processname" ]; then
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:40] <locohost> echo $var2
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:41] <locohost> else
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:43] <locohost> echo $var2
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:45] <locohost> cat ~/notrunning/warning | mail -s 'myprocess is not running' phonenumber@providor
[04-Mar-2008 16:04:08] <Bulwinkle> twm1010: nope... There is a t1 with monitor set to true and it isn't generating event (its down)...
[04-Mar-2008 16:19:59] <btsteve> I am trying to setup zenoss to monitor my network. I have it up and running and several servers entered into the system. It seemed to graph for a few hours and now it has stopped graphing the ethernet ports on my boxes. Can anyone tell me where to look to start solving this issue? Thanks
[04-Mar-2008 16:21:25] <locohost> verify that you can manually snmpwalk that data
[04-Mar-2008 16:21:58] <locohost> im kinda new to zenoss myself, but you could look through /opt/zenoss/log/ for stuff that looks bad
[04-Mar-2008 16:22:15] <locohost> you could look in the rrd's to see if they contain data
[04-Mar-2008 16:23:03] <btsteve> ok let me try the snmp walk. So far the logs do not look like there is anything bad in them.
[04-Mar-2008 16:23:20] <locohost> sudo rrdtool dump /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/vm01-locohost.locodomain/os/interfaces/eth0/ifInErrors_ifInErrors.rrd|grep -v NaN
[04-Mar-2008 16:23:40] <locohost> you could do something like that to look at the rrd file that makes the ifinerror graphs for device vm01-locohost.locodomain
[04-Mar-2008 16:24:16] <locohost> you probably want eth0/ifInOctets_ifInOctets.rrd
[04-Mar-2008 16:24:37] <btsteve> rddtool command not found.
[04-Mar-2008 16:27:05] <locohost> /opt/zenoss/bin/rrdtool
[04-Mar-2008 16:27:19] <locohost> probably not pathed in your bashrc
[04-Mar-2008 16:31:58] <klinstifen> morning
[04-Mar-2008 16:32:10] <klinstifen> anyone know how to resolve "not in topology" errors?
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:25] <klinstifen> i'm getting a critical one that says my zenoss server isn't in the topology and that the network topology will be ignored
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:29] <btsteve> Ok i ran the rrdtool dump and it spit back what looks like a bunch of html/xml
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:32] <klinstifen> then it says all of my devices aren't in the topology
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:51] <klinstifen> repeats every second : (
[04-Mar-2008 16:35:37] <klinstifen> err sorry twice a min
[04-Mar-2008 16:35:40] <klinstifen> but still : (
[04-Mar-2008 16:40:52] <klinstifen> btsteve: what are you trying to do?
[04-Mar-2008 16:41:32] <btsteve> Get my graphs working. I just saw in my logs the same topology error so i am trying to research it.
[04-Mar-2008 16:42:38] <klinstifen> what kind of graphs are you doing?
[04-Mar-2008 16:44:10] <locohost> btsteve: look at the lines that look like this: <!-- 2008-02-15 05:00:00 EST / 1203069600 --> <row><v> 0.0000000000e+00 </v></row>
[04-Mar-2008 16:44:27] <locohost> see if your rrd is being updated
[04-Mar-2008 16:46:57] <btsteve> No they all saw the 28 and 29 that is when i set up the system
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:17] <klinstifen> are these oid or command graphs?
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:30] <btsteve> i guess they are oid
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:38] <btsteve> i am a bit new to snmp
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:51] <locohost> none of the zenoss services stopped running since you had it working?
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:18] <btsteve> the box has been rebooted i have zenoos set to start at boot time.
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> Zenoss builds an internal network-topology map for several of its functions.
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> It is recommended that you first run "zendisc run --routers" so that, for one
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> thing, zenping will be happy from the beginning. If you don't, you'll get thousands
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> of "Network xxxx not in topology" in your logs. (Don't forget to rotate the logs
[04-Mar-2008 16:49:25] <btsteve> in the daemons section of zenoss it shows the zenhub stopped.
[04-Mar-2008 16:49:30] <klinstifen> loco: this issue just came about after going from 2.1.2 to 2.1.71
[04-Mar-2008 16:50:11] <locohost> sudo /etc/init.d/zenoss status says everything is happy, steve?
[04-Mar-2008 16:51:44] <btsteve> http://pastebin.com/m40cf1893
[04-Mar-2008 16:51:51] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:31] <btsteve> i also tried running the zendisc this is what i got
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:31] <btsteve> zendisc --run routers
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:33] <btsteve> zendisc --run routers
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:56] <btsteve> line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[04-Mar-2008 16:55:16] <locohost> can you start zenhub, im not even sure what zenhub does, but it should be running
[04-Mar-2008 16:56:30] <btsteve> ok it wont stay started
[04-Mar-2008 16:56:42] <locohost> looks like zenhub has to do with the data collection and rrd's some how
[04-Mar-2008 16:57:16] <locohost> it will tell you all the pids that are running, and not touch them, does it fail for just zenhub?
[04-Mar-2008 16:57:19] <locohost> what exactly does it say?
[04-Mar-2008 16:58:05] <btsteve> shows a pid and then if you click on the daemons tab again it does not show a pid, and doing a status shows it not running
[04-Mar-2008 16:59:40] <btsteve> ok is i try starting it from the cli i get this http://pastebin.com/m316e6049
[04-Mar-2008 16:59:48] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-Mar-2008 17:00:58] <klinstifen> btsteve: do a zenoss stop
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:11] <klinstifen> and then rm $ZENHOME/var/zenhub-1.zec
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:14] <klinstifen> then zenoss start
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:22] <klinstifen> zenhub will probably stay running after that
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:53] <locohost> do any of you know how to reference the current device id in a dtml script?
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:10] <btsteve> no
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:14] <klinstifen> are you calling the script from zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:20] <locohost> yes
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:22] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:24] <klinstifen> it's...
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:37] <locohost> it connects to a sql db pulls up cmdb data for that device
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:51] <locohost> i got it working, but im passing the argument manually, like hte device id in quotes
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:56] <klinstifen> $devname
[04-Mar-2008 17:03:10] <btsteve> ok looks like the process is running now
[04-Mar-2008 17:03:17] <klinstifen> btsteve: cool
[04-Mar-2008 17:03:37] <klinstifen> locohost: $devname should give you what you want
[04-Mar-2008 17:04:52] <locohost> ill try that in a sec, i was doing like ${device/id} and here/id and those were not working there.
[04-Mar-2008 17:05:58] <locohost> do you guys know why database administrators make bad house guests?
[04-Mar-2008 17:06:06] <btsteve> no
[04-Mar-2008 17:06:17] <locohost> because they might take a dump on your table.
[04-Mar-2008 17:06:40] <btsteve> lol
[04-Mar-2008 17:07:10] <klinstifen> *shakes head
[04-Mar-2008 17:07:42] <locohost> has anyone else noticed that zenoss runs like crap in a vm
[04-Mar-2008 17:08:54] <locohost> steve, are you getting any new dates in your rrds?
[04-Mar-2008 17:09:06] <btsteve> Let me seen
[04-Mar-2008 17:09:07] <btsteve> Let me see
[04-Mar-2008 17:10:42] <btsteve> dont see any in there
[04-Mar-2008 17:13:42] <klinstifen> btsteve: have they ever worked?
[04-Mar-2008 17:14:49] <locohost> there are values in your rrds, correct, just not new ones, i think he said it stopped after a restart
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:24] <klinstifen> oh ok
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:26] <btsteve> nope no dates on that one
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:49] <klinstifen> can you snmpwalk to that oid from the console?
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:59] <locohost> so, it never worked then. Didnt you say that it was working at first?
[04-Mar-2008 17:18:42] <btsteve> it worked for a few hours.
[04-Mar-2008 17:19:11] <locohost> maybe i pointed you at the wrong rrd file.
[04-Mar-2008 17:19:48] <locohost> your looking at ifInOctets_ifInOctets.rrd for eth0?
[04-Mar-2008 17:19:53] <louish> Hi all. I download the latest vmware image on zenoss. And it worked, but I wanted to give it a static ipaddy. I can't the settings in ipcfg-eth0, and the ipaddys changed now, but i can't get http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:8080 it just sits there waiting for ...... Have I missed another file that needed changing?
[04-Mar-2008 17:20:27] <locohost> should be able to edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
[04-Mar-2008 17:20:47] <louish> that is the file that I edited.
[04-Mar-2008 17:20:51] <btsteve> ok on that one i see a date of today at noon
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:03] <locohost> then restart network
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:17] <louish> I restarted as well.
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:18] <zaf> locohost, runs fine for me in a VM
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:20] <locohost> or run the ifup script
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:48] <louish> I can ssh to the "new" ip address okay. I just can't get to zenoss by http.
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:54] <locohost> one of my test boxes is vmwareserver 1.4, havent tried it in esx
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:56] <btsteve> i see graph lines !!!!
[04-Mar-2008 17:22:04] <louish> the web page will not load.
[04-Mar-2008 17:22:13] <louish> since I changed the ipaddress.
[04-Mar-2008 17:23:15] <klinstifen> btsteve: nice!
[04-Mar-2008 17:23:43] <btsteve> Ok i am sure i have some other questions, i will let it run for a while and test it. Thanks
[04-Mar-2008 17:25:58] <locohost> what is the zen equiv of httpd.conf?
[04-Mar-2008 17:26:20] <zaf> ah. i use XenSource
[04-Mar-2008 17:26:32] <locohost> maybe there is something there about the if it listens on
[04-Mar-2008 17:27:20] <louish> Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. but right now I can't king httpd.conf anywhere.
[04-Mar-2008 17:31:18] <locohost> you sure your trying to hit 8080 on the new ip?
[04-Mar-2008 17:31:32] <louish> yes,
[04-Mar-2008 17:32:06] <louish> I think there is another setting that needs to be changed when one wants to change the ipaddy
[04-Mar-2008 17:32:56] <louish> but where? I can't find anything listed in the faq's. And I'm having issues downloading the zenoss admin guide,(web site is timeing out.)
[04-Mar-2008 17:33:27] <locohost> you try kicking zenoss after you changed the ip?
[04-Mar-2008 17:34:12] <louish> that was the plan..
[04-Mar-2008 17:39:41] <locohost> can you wget localhost:8080
[04-Mar-2008 17:40:19] <louish> I just deleted the vmware image and redid it. I'm now back into zenoss.
[04-Mar-2008 17:40:44] <louish> I edited the file again, and restart the network and this time it works.
[04-Mar-2008 17:45:20] <locohost> <dtml-in expr="grabdata(cmdb_name='$devname')"> does not seem to work klinstifen. if put the device name between the single quotes manually, it works
[04-Mar-2008 17:52:57] <locohost> the immediate parent object would be the device name, can i reference it that way?
[04-Mar-2008 18:17:23] <locohost> anyone have any other ideas about getting the device name in a dtml script run from zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 18:34:33] <klinstifen> $devname didn't work?
[04-Mar-2008 18:36:44] <locohost> no
[04-Mar-2008 18:36:50] <locohost> dev name is not defined
[04-Mar-2008 18:37:08] <locohost> someone suggested something like this: <dtml-let devname="this().getId()"> but that is not working either
[04-Mar-2008 18:37:28] <klinstifen> where are you calling this script?
[04-Mar-2008 18:37:59] <locohost> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/server01/viewcmdb
[04-Mar-2008 18:38:33] <locohost> its not really on localhost, not that that matters, but im using an ssh tunnel
[04-Mar-2008 18:39:17] <klinstifen> is this a template?
[04-Mar-2008 18:39:41] <locohost> no, i made it
[04-Mar-2008 18:40:22] <klinstifen> no i mean...where is it being called? is it part of a performance template, is it a command...
[04-Mar-2008 18:41:03] <locohost> my plan was to link it to the hardware tab, but im currently browsing to it
[04-Mar-2008 18:42:04] <klinstifen> what output does it give you?
[04-Mar-2008 18:42:46] <locohost> its getting an empty set, like its not passing any argument
[04-Mar-2008 18:43:25] <locohost> if i replace <dtml-in expr="grabdata(cmdb_name=devname)"> with name='server01' it works
[04-Mar-2008 18:46:21] <locohost> its like <dtml-let devname="this().getId()"> is not finding anything so its setting devname to nil
[04-Mar-2008 18:46:38] <klinstifen> ohhh ok
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:24] <locohost> im so close to having this work, lol. This last part and then its just graphical stuff
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:38] <klinstifen> what will it show you?
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:42] <klinstifen> what info are you after?
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:55] <klinstifen> err what does your script do?
[04-Mar-2008 18:48:13] <locohost> when i nagigate to a device in zenoss, it will display all the info for that device out of an existing mysql cmdb that i already have
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:20] <locohost> maybe im not being clear.
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:52] <locohost> im doing
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:52] <locohost> <dtml-in expr="grabdata(cmdb_name='server01')"> and that works, send me (select * from cmdb_device where name = 'server01';)
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:59] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[04-Mar-2008 18:55:29] <locohost> except, all my devbices are not named server01, so i need it to pull off the device im looking at, or parent object or something
[04-Mar-2008 18:56:45] <selfish> so...
[04-Mar-2008 18:56:47] <selfish> hi
[04-Mar-2008 18:57:02] <selfish> zenoss looks pretty cool
[04-Mar-2008 18:57:18] <locohost> or maybe its queriing sql for a server named this().getId()
[04-Mar-2008 18:58:07] <selfish> I think I'm going to like it, but I see some deficiencies
[04-Mar-2008 18:58:40] <locohost> buggar, i have a meeting for the next hour or so, thanks for the help guys, ill be back in a bit
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:11] <selfish> but zenoss isn't really open source, correct?
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:25] <klinstifen> what do you mean?
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:31] <selfish> the devs aren't begging for patches like other projects
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:48] <klinstifen> blink, blink
[04-Mar-2008 19:05:07] <selfish> i was looking at the site, and everything says contribute documentation
[04-Mar-2008 19:05:11] <selfish> or did i miss something?
[04-Mar-2008 19:05:46] <Teecee> Hey guys, I am looking into monitoring my network and some DBs and have been spending some time reading about cacti and zenoss. I am wondering if someone could compare the two for me. All of my network gear is Cisco with a mix of linux/windows servers.
[04-Mar-2008 19:06:56] <klinstifen> i don't know what you are asking...it's open source. we can all modify it
[04-Mar-2008 19:09:22] <Teecee> just wondering if there were any differences besides looks? Does one have more plugins than the other? Which one has a bigger user community? Which one is the most flexible? What about ease of use?
[04-Mar-2008 19:09:42] <selfish> meh, maybe i don't know either
[04-Mar-2008 19:11:13] <selfish> okay, so anyway, i have a question...
[04-Mar-2008 19:11:40] <selfish> The first device I added was my core router and zenoss started polling everything in the route table
[04-Mar-2008 19:11:59] <selfish> but I don't want that, is there a way to direct the auto-discovery to certain subnets?
[04-Mar-2008 19:12:16] <selfish> and by polling i meant auto-discovery polling
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:41] <klinstifen> you could turn off auto-discoverty
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:44] <klinstifen> *discovery
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:48] <klinstifen> then add a network manually
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:50] <klinstifen> and just scan that
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:10] <klinstifen> teecee: cacti has been around longer so i would think the community is bigger
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:15] <klinstifen> and thus has more pluggins
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:31] <klinstifen> but it is targetted towards network devices and zenoss is for a larger infrastructure
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:38] <klinstifen> servers, network equip, etc
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:50] <klinstifen> although both work off of rrd so i guess the compatibility is the same
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:55] <klinstifen> zenoss takes nagios pluggins
[04-Mar-2008 19:17:00] <klinstifen> so i guess that's a one up on cacti
[04-Mar-2008 19:17:13] <klinstifen> depends on what you want to do, Teecee
[04-Mar-2008 19:17:15] <Teecee> when you say take nagios plugins, can you go into detail?
[04-Mar-2008 19:18:14] <Teecee> I want to monitor traffic of vlans, certain ports on my switches, wireless associations with my access points, server cpu, memory, hdd, sql and mysql db connections, maybe some printer status like if a printer is jamed or what not
[04-Mar-2008 19:18:35] <selfish> I've used tons of monitoring apps, and fwiw I think I like zenoss the best so far
[04-Mar-2008 19:18:53] <selfish> nagios is stagnating and catci is like Mr Johnson's 8th grade project
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:02] <Teecee> lol selfish
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:21] <klinstifen> teecee, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/?searchterm=nagios
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:22] <selfish> and Director was developed by Satan himself
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:50] <klinstifen> yeah nagios isn't so hot
[04-Mar-2008 19:20:13] <selfish> it's functionally sound, but man, it hasn't been updated in AGES
[04-Mar-2008 19:20:19] <klinstifen> i used hyperic and zenoss is much better
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:02] <selfish> I was hoping that I could do directed auto-discovery, like WUG.
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:11] <Teecee> so can I monitor all of those things I mentioned?
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:18] <selfish> I enter my list of subnets and it scans nightly for new IP's
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:28] <klinstifen> selfish, you just have to do it a bit more manually
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:30] <klinstifen> still be targeted
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:34] <klinstifen> you pick subnet and say "go"
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:40] <selfish> cool
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:53] <klinstifen> teecee, most of them. some will require effort on your part
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:01] <selfish> Teecee: anything that can be monitored with snmp, wmi, dcom... perl, batch...
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:05] <selfish> I could keep going
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:28] <selfish> yeah, some require you to actually do some work *gasp*
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:47] <Teecee> when you say effort on my part, does that mean creating my own code, or just configing some plugin or addon on the client?
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:58] <klinstifen> wha?!
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:21] <Teecee> because I am not a programmer, and am not profecient enough in linux to write my own code, I spend most of my day with routers, switches, etc
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:26] <klinstifen> yeah, you may have to code
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:39] <selfish> it depends how crazy you want to get
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:39] <klinstifen> there are a lot of pluggins
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:45] <klinstifen> well you could always learn and then write some
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:52] <selfish> that's crazy talk
[04-Mar-2008 19:25:05] <Teecee> is there a site that has a lot of zenoss plugins?
[04-Mar-2008 19:26:01] <selfish> i thought you said you spent some time reading...
[04-Mar-2008 19:26:41] <Teecee> lol
[04-Mar-2008 19:29:08] <Teecee> cacti and nagios plugins are easy to find, zenoss not so much
[04-Mar-2008 19:29:53] <Teecee> like for cacti and nagios just hit their forums and find tons of plugins
[04-Mar-2008 19:29:59] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Mar-2008 19:30:08] <klinstifen> i think the zenoss community is still developing in that regard
[04-Mar-2008 19:36:53] <klinstifen> teecee, kidding aside i am pretty happy with it and will continue using it for a while
[04-Mar-2008 19:37:02] <klinstifen> has already helped me with a variety of issues
[04-Mar-2008 19:42:49] <Teecee> such as?
[04-Mar-2008 19:43:40] <klinstifen> detecting dictionary attack, bandwidth bottle necks, down printer queues, exchange server overload, network outagages, service/process crashes
[04-Mar-2008 19:44:48] <kgoedtel> teecee can use nagios plugins....
[04-Mar-2008 19:44:54] <kgoedtel> err zenoss can
[04-Mar-2008 19:45:23] <selfish> it cured my aids!
[04-Mar-2008 19:45:40] <kgoedtel> wow!
[04-Mar-2008 19:46:18] <Teecee> so with that link you sent me I can pretty much convert any nagios plugin to zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:06] <Teecee> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/?searchterm=nagios
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:08] <Teecee> that one
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:31] <Teecee> ty adytum-bot
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:41] <selfish> so I tuned off auto-disco, but how do I remove the 400 pages of subnets it discovered?
[04-Mar-2008 19:50:09] <klinstifen> selfish: go to networks menu. select the first check-box, hold down shift, select last check-box. select delete networks from drop down
[04-Mar-2008 19:50:58] <selfish> maybe that's why i'm confused, my dropdown box has numbers in it
[04-Mar-2008 19:51:13] <selfish> 167863552
[04-Mar-2008 19:51:43] <selfish> aah, THAT drop down box
[04-Mar-2008 19:51:46] <selfish> nm
[04-Mar-2008 20:09:00] <wassy121> Hello there. I have a dual-NIC bonded setup (under bond0) that zenoss is misdetecting the speed of. It says it is a 10MB link, when it is really 2 x 1000MB links bonded. So, I get incorrect threshold errors.
[04-Mar-2008 20:09:09] <wassy121> How can I change the speed of an interface device?
[04-Mar-2008 20:09:42] <wassy121> http://ZENOSS/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/HOSTNAME/os/interfaces/bond0/viewIpInterface doesn't have any place to edit the speed.
[04-Mar-2008 20:10:18] <wassy121> (basically, it screams at me when we do our DB copies between machines hitting 12-15 MB/s).
[04-Mar-2008 20:15:22] <johns55> anyone have a problem with scrolling down in event history?
[04-Mar-2008 20:17:29] <locohost> i would say cacti is more geared to trending and graphing, and zenoss is more of a console for your noc to watch
[04-Mar-2008 20:32:40] <locohost> klin, you still around?
[04-Mar-2008 20:33:39] <idea4gud> i installed zenoss 1.2.7 but it didnt had zeoctl and zopectl libs
[04-Mar-2008 20:34:05] <idea4gud> so i erased and wanna install zenoss1.2.2 bu it complains that name conflict appears
[04-Mar-2008 20:34:22] <idea4gud> any suggestion how do i install the other version
[04-Mar-2008 20:34:39] <klinstifen> loco: yeah
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:01] <klinstifen> idea: current version is 2.1.2
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:28] <idea4gud> k my bad its 2.1.2
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:55] <locohost> im still not getting anywhere with referencing the devname in my dtml, i was wondering if maybe you had any other ideas, or have any idea what mistake i may be makiung
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:55] <wassy121> how did you erase?
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:06] <idea4gud> but then does it hav the req libs which 2.1.71 misses
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:17] <idea4gud> rpm -e zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:53] <klinstifen> i haven't done any dtml stuff
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:57] <klinstifen> did you use a guide?
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:01] <idea4gud> i am new to linux using centos so any stupid qn pardon me
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:19] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:32] <wassy121> idea: you need to completely remove the zenoss installation, it seems to be messed up. rpm -qa | grep zen
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:39] <wassy121> that will show you all the zen packages installed.
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:49] <idea4gud> given on website as well hav installation packages
[04-Mar-2008 20:38:29] <wassy121> You may need to run 'rpm -e --noscripts zenoss-zenpacks-. . . ' if the zenoss main package is not installed. It has some scripts in the preun/postun that rely on zenoss running.
[04-Mar-2008 20:39:25] <idea4gud> wassy: do i do rpm -qa grep ZEN from any where or from the folder where i have saved the zenoss.rpm
[04-Mar-2008 20:40:08] <locohost> rpm -qa|grep -i ZEN so you dont get thrown off by the case
[04-Mar-2008 20:40:33] <locohost> from anywhere
[04-Mar-2008 20:40:47] <wassy121> idea: anywhere. the 'rpm' command is a base part of CentOS, and just reads the database of installed packages from /var/lib/rpm
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:03] <wassy121> That command just checks to see if the package is installed in the RPM database.
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:05] <idea4gud> thnx it returns 2 entries zenity-2.16. and zenoss-2.17.el5
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:20] <wassy121> yeah, which means you have zenoss 2.17 installed still.
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:30] <wassy121> Which is why the other RPM won't install.
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:36] <locohost> so, rpm -e zenoss-2.17.el5 "should" do it
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:43] <locohost> with sudo, or as root
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:44] <wassy121> ./agree
[04-Mar-2008 20:43:21] <louish> Hi all. I have the latest zenoss installed. And I've discovered my subnet, but I have quite a few devices that don't have snmp enabled or not installed. Would it be better to "install/enable" snmp for monitoring?
[04-Mar-2008 20:43:32] <idea4gud> it says %preun(zenoss) scriplet failer exit 1
[04-Mar-2008 20:43:52] <idea4gud> i did this b4 got the same respomse
[04-Mar-2008 20:44:11] <selfish> louish: only if you want to monitor those devices...
[04-Mar-2008 20:44:26] <wassy121> So, that is your problem. It runs the scripts, and fails and thus can't remove the package.
[04-Mar-2008 20:44:36] <wassy121> Try 'rpm -e --noscripts zenoss-2.17.el5'
[04-Mar-2008 20:49:59] <selfish> what protocol is used for auto-disco?
[04-Mar-2008 20:50:13] <selfish> is it just an icmp sweep?
[04-Mar-2008 20:50:26] <louish> selfish, Yes, I do. I have a few "linux's" here that I want to monitor. I'm just trying to figure out what needs to be done. Is there an agent. or can I just install smnpd and set it for public read
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:03] <selfish> yes then, you need to install net-snmp and net-snmp-utils
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:18] <selfish> and don't do public, make a community string
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:23] <selfish> slacker
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:27] <louish> ?
[04-Mar-2008 20:56:34] <idea4gud> hi even 2.1.2 complains that it doens hav zeoctl or zopectl
[04-Mar-2008 20:56:48] <idea4gud> i mean it says no such directory found
[04-Mar-2008 20:57:24] <locohost> lou: sudo yum install net-snmp net-snmp-utils
[04-Mar-2008 20:57:47] <locohost> then clear out the /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf and enter just "rocommunity mycommunity" in the conf
[04-Mar-2008 20:57:55] <locohost> that will get you going with the most basic config possible
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:23] <locohost> you could do rocommunity mycommunity <nms ip> .1.3
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:25] <locohost> if you wanted to
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:30] <wassy121> idea: what is the error it posts?
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:36] <locohost> to restrict polling to just your nms station
[04-Mar-2008 20:59:20] <idea4gud> wassy; zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bn/zenoss line 99: no such file or dir found
[04-Mar-2008 20:59:29] <locohost> if you want zenoss to see the disks, you will need to ad "disk /" "disk /var" and so on on single lines to your snmpd.conf
[04-Mar-2008 20:59:38] <idea4gud> wassy; zopectl /opt/zenoss/bn/zenoss line 99: no such file or dir found
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:04] <wassy121> idea: what command are you running to get that error?
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:46] <locohost> idea, i had a similar problem, and i copied a few files over from a working install
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/bin/runzeo 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/bin/runzeo
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <idea4gud> just startin the service as per thei nstruction given on the doc for el5 notes
[04-Mar-2008 21:01:22] <locohost> is what i did from the machine with the working zenoss, dont mind the private ip of my zenoss server
[04-Mar-2008 21:01:39] <idea4gud> but i dont hav any wrkin machine with zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 21:02:35] <wassy121> idea: you are running /etc/init.d/zenoss start, and it is kicking back those errors?
[04-Mar-2008 21:03:17] <wassy121> can you paste the output (less than 4 lines please) into IRC?
[04-Mar-2008 21:03:27] <wassy121> More than 4 lines, send it to pastebin.ca or something.
[04-Mar-2008 21:03:42] <wassy121> And if it _EXACTLY_ 4 lines. Don't do anything.
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:13] <wassy121> (/joke)
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:18] <idea4gud> k
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:26] <locohost> idea, its opt/bin/zenoss., right? not bn
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:32] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:34] <idea4gud> bin
[04-Mar-2008 21:05:04] <locohost> does /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl exist on the machine?
[04-Mar-2008 21:05:43] <wassy121> You aren't supposed to run /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss directly.
[04-Mar-2008 21:05:58] <wassy121> It should be called from '/etc/init.d/zenoss start'
[04-Mar-2008 21:06:18] <wassy121> Make sure no other zen processes are running - 'ps auxww | grep -i zen'
[04-Mar-2008 21:06:35] <selfish> wtf is ww on ps?
[04-Mar-2008 21:06:46] <wassy121> wtf do those acronymns mean?
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:11] <locohost> wide output?
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:42] <selfish> oh, were you being serious wassy121? You're the one that typed it...
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:43] <wassy121> Ah, that is what you meant
Yeah, one 'w' gives you past 80 columns. 2 'w's give you multiple lines.
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:58] <selfish> aah, ok
[04-Mar-2008 21:08:31] <wassy121> I thought you were using some interweb slang and using 'ww' and 'ps' as acronymns.
[04-Mar-2008 21:08:50] <selfish> heh, i try to stay away from the intarwebz
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:00] <locohost> wassy, i wasnt suggesting he run /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss, i was respponding to his error "zopectl /opt/zenoss/bn/zenoss line 99"
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:05] <selfish> it's all just a fad anyway...
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:13] <locohost> line 99 is trying to call /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:20] <locohost> wwhich, sounds like does not exist on his box
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:55] <wassy121> Well, it is technically a function that is used to call most the daemons (not just zeoctl) on line 99.
[04-Mar-2008 21:10:54] <locohost> yeah, but its failing on zopectl
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:14] <klinstifen> loco: did you follow a guide for you dtml stuff?
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:34] <idea4gud> emon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:34] <idea4gud> file or directory
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:34] <idea4gud> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[04-Mar-2008 21:12:16] <idea4gud> took ages to copy and paste as new in linux
[04-Mar-2008 21:12:26] <locohost> yeah, as far as the guide went anyway, i the thing im trying to do not specifically is not in a guide that i could find
[04-Mar-2008 21:12:37] <locohost> i cant to call the name of the objects container
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:28] <locohost> when i run http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/admin01.cluster.domain/viewcmdb, viewcmdb needs to know the device name is admin01.cluster.domain
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:36] <klinstifen> loco: if you could reference what you did then i might be able to help
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:37] <locohost> same with admin02, and so on
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:47] <locohost> k,ill put it in a pastie
[04-Mar-2008 21:14:36] <klinstifen> how did you creat viewcmdb
[04-Mar-2008 21:15:20] <locohost> selected new dtml object from the drop down in zope
[04-Mar-2008 21:16:21] <locohost> idea, im pretty sure your missing hte 4 files i mentioned
[04-Mar-2008 21:18:46] <klinstifen> loco: doc or method?
[04-Mar-2008 21:19:58] <selfish> ok, I broke zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:07] <selfish> day 1
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:20] <idea4gud> wassy u still here
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:34] <idea4gud> waitin for ur input
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:43] <selfish> under Browse By - Networks it shows nothing at all, but i choose Add Network and type in my IP and it says already in use
[04-Mar-2008 21:23:41] <wassy121> idea: no clue. Maybe the zenoss package didn't install correctly?
[04-Mar-2008 21:24:45] <locohost> http://pastebin.ca/928188
[04-Mar-2008 21:24:50] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - dtml/zope reference parent folde - post number 928188 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Mar-2008 21:25:20] <locohost> DTML Document DTML Document at /viewcmdb
[04-Mar-2008 21:26:28] <idea4gud> locohost is there any way i can copy the same files from the zen workin repository
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:00] <idea4gud> locohost: i tried with 2 versions and both complain for the same hting
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:21] <locohost> your not installing with -no-deps are you?
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:28] <idea4gud> no
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:35] <idea4gud> i am just foll the guide
[04-Mar-2008 21:28:04] <locohost> centos4 or %?
[04-Mar-2008 21:28:06] <locohost> 5
[04-Mar-2008 21:28:10] <idea4gud> 5
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:15] <selfish> i just installed latest with centos5.1 and it's working great
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:19] <selfish> except that i just broke it
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:32] <idea4gud> so wat version did u download from sourceforge.net
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:40] <idea4gud> selfish:?
[04-Mar-2008 21:30:02] <selfish> zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5.x86_64.rpm
[04-Mar-2008 21:30:37] <idea4gud> i am running centos on a VM that is hosted on a network tryin the i386 of the same
[04-Mar-2008 21:30:54] <selfish> mine is also on a VM
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:30] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928200
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:37] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - zenoss error - post number 928200 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:40] <idea4gud> my error if any1 wanna look @ this
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:57] <klinstifen> loco: i'll take a look at what you pasted and get back to you tomorrow
[04-Mar-2008 21:33:39] <idea4gud> i am struggling on this since last thursday
[04-Mar-2008 21:34:03] <idea4gud> can any1 giv some suggestions
[04-Mar-2008 21:38:32] <locohost> idea, try this
[04-Mar-2008 21:38:45] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:03] <locohost> pmed you
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:08] <idea4gud> thnx dude
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:23] <locohost> then restart zenoss, and see if its stuck on the next file
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:44] <locohost> if im right, it will stop at zeo.conf next, if that is hte case, ill send you all the files
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:56] <locohost> thanks klinstifen
[04-Mar-2008 21:40:51] <selfish> hey, my network is back
[04-Mar-2008 21:40:56] <selfish> guess it just had to cycle
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:05] <locohost> sorry, idea, chnage ~/opt/zenoss/bin/ to /opt/zenoss/bin/
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:12] <locohost> in the scp, your not putting it in your homne
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:17] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:30] <idea4gud> k
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:56] <idea4gud> thnx
[04-Mar-2008 21:42:33] <idea4gud> shall i copy 4 lines
[04-Mar-2008 21:42:38] <idea4gud> the one u mentioned
[04-Mar-2008 21:43:21] <locohost> did error number 1 go away when you kick zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 21:45:14] <idea4gud> it complains the same but now first it says zopectl is missing
[04-Mar-2008 21:45:40] <idea4gud> then zeoctl is missing
[04-Mar-2008 21:46:42] <locohost> so it reversed the order?
[04-Mar-2008 21:47:55] <idea4gud> wait lemme check if copied to rite location where it shud hav been
[04-Mar-2008 21:47:58] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:48:30] <locohost> /opt/zenoss/bin. right?
[04-Mar-2008 21:48:43] <locohost> maybe its a permission thing, chown it as zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 21:55:15] <locohost> well, until tomorrow.
[04-Mar-2008 21:55:50] <locohost> Ill see you on the dark side of the moon
[04-Mar-2008 21:56:33] <bush|werk> if the dam breaks open many years too soon?
[04-Mar-2008 21:56:59] <locohost> just in case there is no room on the hill
[04-Mar-2008 21:57:12] <bush|werk> werd
[04-Mar-2008 21:57:33] <locohost> there is no dark side of the moon really, matter of fact its all dark
[04-Mar-2008 21:58:36] <bush|werk> does zendisc run the zenmodeler process after it finds a device?
[04-Mar-2008 21:58:41] <bush|werk> or is that a manual operation?
[04-Mar-2008 21:59:05] <bush|werk> like, if i were to script zendisc to scan the network once daily, would i have to explicitly run zenmodeler?
[04-Mar-2008 21:59:26] <idea4gud> locohost: it complains for zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:28] <locohost> and, it no longer complains about hte file i gave you?
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:31] <idea4gud> errno 2 : no file /etc/zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:37] <idea4gud> yes i guess we made some progress
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:58] <locohost> well, i think i put t hat file in the home of the shell login i gave you
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:11] <locohost> try putting that one there to and chownin i5t
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:21] <locohost> im about to go home, so, ill check back after i get a beer in me
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:33] <idea4gud> that: here refers to?
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:51] <idea4gud> k
[04-Mar-2008 22:04:25] <btsteve> where can you set $ZENHOME for all of the files?
[04-Mar-2008 22:08:05] <bush|werk> btsteve: /usr/local/zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 22:08:15] <bush|werk> or... what are you asking?
[04-Mar-2008 22:28:08] <idea4gud> locohost: hi it says file not found for zeo.congf
[04-Mar-2008 22:40:55] <selfish> Is there any kind of link between a location and a network?
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[04-Mar-2008 22:45:28] <bush|werk> i dont think so
[04-Mar-2008 22:45:39] <bush|werk> a network can span multiple locations technically
[04-Mar-2008 22:46:09] <bush|werk> if youre referring to the location field in a device's properties, i think thats more for organization purposes
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:21] <selfish> I was referring to the location for mapping purposes
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:28] <locohost_> i think it wants like /headquarters/floor2/south-west_closet
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:33] <locohost_> or something, for the location
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:50] <selfish> yeah, we just happen to have a /21 for each site
[04-Mar-2008 22:48:48] <selfish> but when something is down, the mapping is going by locations/devices
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:43] <idea4gud> hi loco good 2 c u abck
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:46] <idea4gud> back
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:55] <locohost_> yo. any luck?
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:55] <idea4gud> that file is not there
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:01] <idea4gud> zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:04] <locohost_> k
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:09] <idea4gud> just one file i guess zeoctl
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:13] <idea4gud> in home
[04-Mar-2008 22:51:31] <locohost_> now it is
[04-Mar-2008 22:53:39] <locohost_> anyone able to help me figure out how to reference ${device/id} inside a dtml script i made?
[04-Mar-2008 22:53:56] <locohost_> http://pastebin.ca/928188
[04-Mar-2008 22:54:03] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - dtml/zope reference parent folde - post number 928188 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Mar-2008 22:59:28] * locohost_ yawns
[04-Mar-2008 23:08:33] <locohost_> selfish, i didnt see what you last said. it maps by network/location so you know which network team to call. the seattle network team or the denver network team
[04-Mar-2008 23:08:33] <locohost_> etc
[04-Mar-2008 23:10:04] <locohost_> or, site /21, or site /37
[04-Mar-2008 23:11:21] <locohost_> idea4, any luck?
[04-Mar-2008 23:11:25] <idea4gud> loco: i am not able to find file pmed u plz look @ dat
[04-Mar-2008 23:12:02] <locohost_> i cant see your pm
[04-Mar-2008 23:12:08] <locohost_> are you not registered?
[04-Mar-2008 23:12:55] <idea4gud> i am now reg
[04-Mar-2008 23:13:07] <idea4gud> it says it recognized me
[04-Mar-2008 23:13:49] <locohost_> zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:10] <locohost_> right?
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:24] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:32] <idea4gud> now can u look @ my pm
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:54] <locohost_> take out the ~ in ~/opt/..
[04-Mar-2008 23:15:44] <selfish> locohost_: so if it alerts and maps based on location, why do I need to configure networks?
[04-Mar-2008 23:15:45] <locohost_> i was getting a little overzelous in my home referencing the first time i typed the scp out
[04-Mar-2008 23:16:20] <locohost_> locations with multiple networks
[04-Mar-2008 23:16:59] <locohost_> the network is for maping,and drawing out logical networks, where location breaks that down into physical location
[04-Mar-2008 23:17:42] <locohost_> you could have a vpn between 2 locations and from a network view it would be transparent, you want to know that half of the network is at a different location
[04-Mar-2008 23:17:49] <selfish> yeah, but I'm a good designer so logical and physical are the same.
[04-Mar-2008 23:18:06] <locohost_> or you have a small network
[04-Mar-2008 23:18:19] <selfish> sheeeeeeit
[04-Mar-2008 23:18:36] <selfish> 40 sites across US, Canada, and S. America
[04-Mar-2008 23:19:01] <selfish> tiny
[04-Mar-2008 23:20:25] <locohost_> i wasnt expecting anything under 41, pittens, i tell you
[04-Mar-2008 23:20:51] <locohost_> so, you have 40 locations, and each location is 1 network, with no exceptions?
[04-Mar-2008 23:21:16] <selfish> yeah, each one is a /21
[04-Mar-2008 23:21:37] <locohost_> ahh, lol, i though you ment /21 like that was your locaiton name before
[04-Mar-2008 23:22:18] <selfish> heh, yeah i've never seen an app that used root /'s like it's a file system
[04-Mar-2008 23:22:40] <locohost_> well, in my env, i have 5 seperate networks in 1 location that cant talk to each other, and an admin network that is the only way to talk to them all
[04-Mar-2008 23:22:53] <locohost_> so, devices are on multiple networks, and stuff
[04-Mar-2008 23:23:02] <selfish> ouch
[04-Mar-2008 23:23:30] <locohost_> they all have different tubes, different ip blocks, etc
[04-Mar-2008 23:23:37] <locohost_> the internet is a series of tubes
[04-Mar-2008 23:24:27] <locohost_> lol
[04-Mar-2008 23:25:32] <locohost_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE kinda funny
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[04-Mar-2008 23:26:21] <johns55> what r u guys doing for backup? are u using zenbackup? or just taring the entire ZENHOME?
[04-Mar-2008 23:26:53] <locohost_> it think we use bacula
[04-Mar-2008 23:27:16] <johns55> what?>!
[04-Mar-2008 23:29:33] <locohost_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bacula thats what is backup up my almost production zenoss server
[04-Mar-2008 23:29:40] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Bacula (at sourceforge.net)
[04-Mar-2008 23:30:00] <selfish> we use backup exec
[04-Mar-2008 23:30:15] <johns55> so bacula just backs up the zenoss home directory?
[04-Mar-2008 23:30:32] <johns55> or are u running the zenbackup as a cron and bacula comes in and pulls the tar in ZENHOME/backup
[04-Mar-2008 23:32:21] <locohost_> not sure, i dont do the backups, but it does incremental backups of the entier box, so we could restore any file on the system
[04-Mar-2008 23:33:10] <idea4gud> it says cant start /opt/zenoss/bin/runzeo
[04-Mar-2008 23:34:13] <johns55> wow u backup the entire box
[04-Mar-2008 23:34:14] <johns55> crazy
[04-Mar-2008 23:36:17] <locohost__> okay, i was missing that file to
[04-Mar-2008 23:36:27] <locohost__> scp that one over as well
[04-Mar-2008 23:38:14] <locohost__> you put zeoctl in etc not bin, right, i think i said bin before
[04-Mar-2008 23:38:27] <locohost__> but, it sounds like you got past that part
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[05-Mar-2008 00:00:36] <locohost__> idea4?
[05-Mar-2008 00:00:40] <idea4gud> yes
[05-Mar-2008 00:00:48] <KillMeNow> Night everyone, see you later
[05-Mar-2008 00:00:53] <idea4gud> please forward me zopectl
[05-Mar-2008 00:01:34] <idea4gud> please forward me zopectl
[05-Mar-2008 00:03:00] <locohost__> done
[05-Mar-2008 00:03:13] <idea4gud> thnx
[05-Mar-2008 00:06:51] <idea4gud> k why is tht when i do start zenoss it says like deamon : zeoctl ..... goes on and on
[05-Mar-2008 00:07:24] <locohost__> its looping zeoctl, or its just going through all of the 12 or so deamons?
[05-Mar-2008 00:07:54] <idea4gud> just thru zeoctl
[05-Mar-2008 00:09:29] <locohost__> so, it says everything is started, except looops at zeoctrl, and says it is started over and over again?
[05-Mar-2008 00:09:35] <locohost__> on the same pid, or different pids?
[05-Mar-2008 00:10:26] <idea4gud> Daemon: zeoctl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[05-Mar-2008 00:11:14] <locohost__> how long have you waited? its pertty slow to start sometimes in my vm
[05-Mar-2008 00:11:45] <locohost__> the perms right on zeoctl?
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:25] <locohost__> i probably messed them up when i moved them
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:34] <idea4gud> i guess i ave kill my machine
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:43] <idea4gud> bcz they r just in the loop
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:52] <idea4gud> doesnt allow me execute any command
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:54] <locohost__> can you open up another session, and kill it all off?
[05-Mar-2008 00:15:31] <locohost__> http://www.nme.com/video/id/Fow7iUaKrq4/search/kill
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[05-Mar-2008 00:25:59] <johns55> wzp
[05-Mar-2008 00:26:32] <locohost__> not much, just working on the same problem ive been workin on for like 8 hours
[05-Mar-2008 00:34:21] <idea4gud> loco:askin for zope.conf
[05-Mar-2008 00:38:10] <idea4gud> though i have checked zenoss/etc/ i have zope.conf file
[05-Mar-2008 00:38:23] <locohost__> for sure not zeo.conf?
[05-Mar-2008 00:40:51] <locohost__> i moved my zeo.conf there, but dont just overwrite it if it is there, diff them
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:01] <locohost__> zope.conf rather
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:07] <idea4gud> k lemme paste u the exact erroe
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:09] <idea4gud> error
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:43] <locohost__> im loco withi two _underscores__
[05-Mar-2008 00:42:31] <idea4gud> i have check in opt/zenoss/etc/ i have zope.conff present herte
[05-Mar-2008 00:45:49] <locohost__> so, now its not complaining about any missing files, buty our getting a different error all together
[05-Mar-2008 00:48:45] <idea4gud> i was thikin of hangin zope.conf
[05-Mar-2008 00:53:54] <locohost__> could someeone help me with http://pastebin.ca/928188, please?
[05-Mar-2008 00:54:08] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - dtml/zope reference parent folde - post number 928188 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 01:05:13] <idea4gud> if u u got some more time may b u can look @ my erro message as Well ZOPECTL and ZOPE.conf
[05-Mar-2008 01:10:10] <locohost__> not sure, i dont think i had that problem, try running the comand the error says to run, might give more debug info
[05-Mar-2008 01:13:27] <idea4gud> it does allow me run the command seems wierd permision denied
[05-Mar-2008 01:13:30] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928418 may b you cna look @ this
[05-Mar-2008 01:13:37] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 928418 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 01:23:48] <locohost__> you sure you cant reach the server even with that error?
[05-Mar-2008 01:24:20] <idea4gud> locahost__:tht msg was to me ?
[05-Mar-2008 01:29:30] <locohost__> yeah, im not sure what to tell ya
[05-Mar-2008 01:39:30] <idea4gud> also on the server i am using the ip address of my machine given by the network Not the LOCAL HOST
[05-Mar-2008 01:39:34] <idea4gud> is this fine
[05-Mar-2008 01:44:20] <idea4gud> thnx for ur help locohost best of luck for ur task
[05-Mar-2008 01:44:31] <idea4gud> i appreciate ur help
[05-Mar-2008 01:44:35] <idea4gud> tc bye
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[05-Mar-2008 10:16:14] <[Wiebel]> hello again
[05-Mar-2008 10:16:26] <[Wiebel]> is there a way to add dependancies to devices?
[05-Mar-2008 10:16:57] <[Wiebel]> so if devices x is down it does not send mail/page messages for y and z because they depend on x
[05-Mar-2008 14:32:26] <locohost> there is some info on there here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16231
[05-Mar-2008 14:32:49] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Device/Network Dependencies (at community.zenoss.com)
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:00] <[Wiebel]> yeah i've read that
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:03] <[Wiebel]> but we have layer2 only devices
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:09] <[Wiebel]> or at least, non-layer3 devices
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:19] <[Wiebel]> (only for management )
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:22] <sr_> hi.. can somebody pls help me out with configuring ZenOSS to get
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:45] <sr_> software details in Linux machines?
[05-Mar-2008 14:39:44] <sr_> i couldn't get software details once i modeled Linux machines with zenoss..
[05-Mar-2008 14:57:27] <Teecee> I am getting an event "snmp agent down on device..." on all of my cisco access points, but snmp is working because it discovered them, pulled the ios version, location, name, and I can view the stats on my different interfaces and vlans... Any idea why zenoss is telling me this? I login to the access point and SNMP IS enabled.
[05-Mar-2008 15:01:36] <locohost> can you walk the devices manually in zenoss?
[05-Mar-2008 15:03:36] <Teecee> walk the devices manually? I do not know what that means
[05-Mar-2008 15:14:21] <locohost> when looking at the status page of the device, from the drop down arrow, run command --> snmpwalk
[05-Mar-2008 15:19:48] <Teecee> it worked
[05-Mar-2008 15:20:10] <Teecee> came back with ios info, contact, name location, etc
[05-Mar-2008 15:25:40] <twm1010> you're getting this event from all of them?
[05-Mar-2008 15:25:42] <twm1010> or just a few?
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:06] <Teecee> pretty much all of them
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:10] <locohost> is it a red event, or an orage event?
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:13] <locohost> orange*
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:14] <Teecee> orange
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:32] <locohost> im new to zenoss myself, does that mean it was red, but is not anymore?
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:57] <Teecee> i am on my second day of using zenoss so i am pretty new also
[05-Mar-2008 15:28:53] <locohost> when you drill down to that device, what exactly does it say is wrong with it?
[05-Mar-2008 15:29:31] <Teecee> when I click on the orange event, I get snmp agent down on device DEVICENAME
[05-Mar-2008 15:29:59] <KillMeNow> have you checked firewall settings Teecee? make sure the SNMP service is running on your box?
[05-Mar-2008 15:30:53] <locohost> he can snmpwalk it manually
[05-Mar-2008 15:31:41] <Teecee> at the bottom of the status screen i see the "SNMP Descr" Cisco IOS Software, C1200 Software (C1200-K9W7-M), Version 12.3(8)JEC, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Thu 25-Oct-07 22:24 by dchih
[05-Mar-2008 15:31:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Cisco - Shortcut (at www.cisco.com)
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:01] <Teecee> it knows the OS version is IOS 12.3(8)JEC
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:05] <Teecee> I did not tell it that
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:18] <Teecee> it knows the hw model, it knows location, etc
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:21] <Teecee> all that is via snmp
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:41] <Teecee> it is like snmp works, but zenoss doesnt think it is working
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:55] <locohost> what is the event class of the error?
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:12] <locohost> i wonder if its checking for running processes through snmp, and not finding net-snmp or soemthing
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:36] <Teecee> ok weird
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:40] <Teecee> it just went away
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:51] <locohost> good, how long was it like that?
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:56] <locohost> more then 15 minutes?
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:59] <Teecee> 20 hours
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:08] <Teecee> dont worry, i have plenty more with this error
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:18] <Teecee> the event class is /status/snmp
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:28] <Teecee> maybe forcing the snmpwalk fixes it?
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:49] <Teecee> i just ran a snmpwalk on another, we will see what happens
[05-Mar-2008 15:36:40] <locohost> it s hould be doing that on its own every few 5 minutes, weird,
[05-Mar-2008 15:36:50] <locohost> verify all your processes are running
[05-Mar-2008 15:36:56] <locohost> sudo /etc/init.d/zenoss status
[05-Mar-2008 15:37:57] <Teecee> everything is running
[05-Mar-2008 15:40:47] <locohost> what is the first time and last time like?
[05-Mar-2008 15:40:56] <locohost> it says it was down for the entier 20 hours, and the time is right?
[05-Mar-2008 15:41:06] <locohost> and the count is increasing?
[05-Mar-2008 15:48:53] <twm1010> I don't think SNMP down messages are auto-cleared
[05-Mar-2008 15:51:18] <locohost> so maybe he had a layer 2 hiccup hours ago, and they just didnt clear, thats why im saying to look at the tstamp
[05-Mar-2008 15:52:42] <Teecee> how do I clear them?
[05-Mar-2008 16:22:39] <brittonr> morning.. i have a question
[05-Mar-2008 16:26:50] <brittonr> how do you change the ip address in the VMware zenoss download. i set it in the /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 but during startup it says IPADDR command not found
[05-Mar-2008 16:27:34] <brittonr> ?
[05-Mar-2008 16:33:38] <brittonr> morning.
[05-Mar-2008 16:34:04] <brittonr> i am having trouble with zenoss vmware down version.
[05-Mar-2008 16:35:44] <brittonr> i need to change the ip address to a static ip. but i get IPADDRR unknown command
[05-Mar-2008 16:44:49] <fym> install question: anyone seen this error: make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[05-Mar-2008 16:44:49] <fym> ?
[05-Mar-2008 16:53:44] <twm1010> brittonr: thats not where you change it
[05-Mar-2008 16:53:46] <twm1010> hold on
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:25] <twm1010> ok /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 is what you want
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:48] <twm1010> here's my config if it helps
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> DEVICE=eth0
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> BOOTPROTO=static
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> BROADCAST=0.0.0.255
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> IPADDR=172.16.19.191
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:51] <twm1010> NETWORK=172.16.19.0
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:53] <twm1010> GATEWAY=172.16.19.1
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:55] <twm1010> ONBOOT=yes
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:57] <twm1010> TYPE=Ethernet
[05-Mar-2008 17:03:41] <twm1010> hope that helps
[05-Mar-2008 17:24:13] <twm1010> I don't know what to tell you then
[05-Mar-2008 17:24:14] <twm1010> other than arrow through the file one character at a time
[05-Mar-2008 17:24:14] <twm1010> look for extra periods... spaces... etc
[05-Mar-2008 17:37:32] <brittonr> i retyping the entire file over
[05-Mar-2008 17:37:37] <brittonr> see what happens
[05-Mar-2008 17:38:38] <brittonr> yes!
[05-Mar-2008 17:38:42] <brittonr> that did it
[05-Mar-2008 17:38:46] <brittonr> didn't like something..
[05-Mar-2008 17:39:22] <brittonr> thanks for the help
[05-Mar-2008 18:13:18] <johns55> anyone experience where the event logs do not scroll down?
[05-Mar-2008 18:46:47] <wassy121> Hello all. Can someone explain to me how to manually set the speed of network interfaces in zenoss?
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:17] <wassy121> I get too many errors about surpassing the 75% threshold due to the NIC speed being incorrectly detected.
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:34] <johns55> yeah sometimes snmp will detect ur gigabit card as 100mbit
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:52] <johns55> so it will alert u when u hit 75mbit
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:55] <johns55> when u can go faster
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:10] <wassy121> Correct. How can I prevent/change this?
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:28] <johns55> depends, some devices detect it correctly
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:32] <johns55> others dont
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:49] <johns55> ive heard some people have adjusted their threshold to multiply by 100
[05-Mar-2008 18:49:02] <johns55> of course you would need to create a local copy of ur device template
[05-Mar-2008 18:49:45] <wassy121> Ah. That makes sense. There is no way to set the 'self.speed' variable it is calling though?
[05-Mar-2008 18:50:17] <wassy121> Rather than having to make a local device template (to be updated each time a change is needed . . . )
[05-Mar-2008 18:50:31] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:02] <johns55> well if a device is detected correctly, then the speed variable will be multiplied by 100
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:14] <johns55> why not just fix what is being detected incorrectly locally
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:21] <wassy121> Yeah, it is a weird bonded device.
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:21] <johns55> instead of messing with the global variables
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:37] <wassy121> How does Zen determine the speed?
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:41] <wassy121> Through mii-tool?
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:47] <johns55> snmp
[05-Mar-2008 18:53:17] <wassy121> Ah, I may be able to just add the appropriate speed in snmpd.conf. Let me investigate. Thanks for the helpful advice.
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:29] <johns55> no u cant
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:43] <johns55> it will affect other correctly detected nic speeds
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:48] <johns55> if u change anything in there
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:58] <johns55> u need to change this on the device that is having the problem in zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:19] <wassy121> The other NICs speeds don't matter on these machines. The two NICs are bonded together to a 'bond0' device. If I set the speed of that on the appropriate devices in snmpd.conf, won't that do the trick?
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:50] <johns55> hrm, im not sure how you would set the nic speed on snmpd.conf
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:54] <wassy121> Having the other NICs misrepresented shouldn't make much of a problem.
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:55] <johns55> but u can try and see if it works
[05-Mar-2008 18:59:00] <wassy121> I don't know either. But, I will try
[05-Mar-2008 18:59:13] <johns55> ok
[05-Mar-2008 19:06:58] <idea4gud> Hi guyz I am back to trouble u
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:10] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928418 Can any1 help me
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:16] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 928418 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:25] <idea4gud> All thanx to locohost:) for helping me
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:28] <idea4gud> reach til here
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:08] <idea4gud> some times u feel Open source r they worht the time they ask u in getting for ur self
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:20] <idea4gud> esp for new comers like me
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:33] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928418
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 928418 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 19:15:38] <idea4gud> dowe havto run zenoss as user : zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:15:54] <idea4gud> also wat would be the password for zenoss user
[05-Mar-2008 19:20:09] <johns55> nothing
[05-Mar-2008 19:20:12] <johns55> useradd zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:20:17] <johns55> su zenoss to use the user
[05-Mar-2008 19:24:34] <wassy121> johns55: I think I found the solution to the mis-configured NIC speed. I guess there was a forum post about it on the zenoss boards. Testing it out, but it seems like it should work.
[05-Mar-2008 19:24:48] <wassy121> echo "interface bond0 5 1000000000" >> snmpd.conf
[05-Mar-2008 19:27:55] <johns55> hrm interesting
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:04] <johns55> bond0 is the interface but what does 5 do?
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:21] <wassy121> that is the 5th entry in the NIC config. Happens to be the 'port speed' entry.
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:23] <idea4gud> i have zenoss already added
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:45] <johns55> wassy: ahh ok thats good to know
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:52] <idea4gud> john55: i didnt add may b it added itseld
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:00] <idea4gud> now its askin for password
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:10] <johns55> what?
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:15] <johns55> r u using root to su to zenoss?
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:25] <idea4gud> first i was runnin ass root
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:38] <wassy121> idea: the user is installed with the rest of the package. You have to become root, then run 'su - zenoss'
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:41] <johns55> dont log off root, just do a su zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:43] <idea4gud> but i had this error which pasted online @
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:53] <idea4gud> i did the same
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:17] <idea4gud> but the password? i donno what's the default passwrd
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:49] <idea4gud> when i want to start the service its askin passwrd
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:52] <johns55> so as root u do an su zenoss and its asking for a pw?
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:52] <wassy121> the web front-end password?
[05-Mar-2008 19:31:47] <wassy121> idea: the error you are running into is because your zope.conf is not correct.
[05-Mar-2008 19:31:56] <idea4gud> i am tryin to etc/init.d/zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:31:58] <wassy121> %define INSTANCE <<INSTANCE_HOME>>
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:04] <wassy121> Is incorrect. It should be:
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:12] <wassy121> %define INSTANCE /opt/zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:36] <idea4gud> k lemme try tht thnx
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:49] <wassy121> same thing with the other variable you have in <<>>
[05-Mar-2008 19:33:08] <johns55> you might also have installed it in /usr/local/zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:33:13] <johns55> make sure u have the right ZENHOME
[05-Mar-2008 19:36:08] <klinstifen> hey all
[05-Mar-2008 19:36:24] <klinstifen> has anyone added things to the os or hardware tab?
[05-Mar-2008 19:36:36] <klinstifen> i have a fax server on an aix box and i want to list it in that section
[05-Mar-2008 19:37:58] <johns55> what process name is the fax server using?
[05-Mar-2008 19:38:22] <johns55> you can monitor the process or the port
[05-Mar-2008 19:39:04] <idea4gud> why does it ask or password when i do
[05-Mar-2008 19:39:49] <idea4gud> running as zenoss: /etc/init.d/zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:02] <idea4gud> running as zenoss: /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:27] <klinstifen> johns55: i have 8 pids associated with it...
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:45] <wassy121> because you don't run the init script as the zenoss user.
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:50] <wassy121> You run the init script as root.
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:04] <idea4gud> ok i did also service zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:05] <klinstifen> idea: or you just say zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:06] <idea4gud> smae thing
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:11] <klinstifen> as zenoss user
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:07] <klinstifen> johns55: how will zenoss determine if it is down...if i were monitoring the port
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:09] <wassy121> So, I modified the NIC speed on one of my devices. How do I get the zenoss portal to update the "speed" variable in Devices/Server/Linux/devices/Hostname/os/bond0 ?
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:17] <klinstifen> does it look for it and if not found say it is down?
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:55] <locohost> i added things to the hardware tab!
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:01] <klinstifen> nice!
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:02] <johns55> klingstifen: snmp will send an alert
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:04] <locohost> got it pulling from my existing cmdb
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:14] <johns55> wassy: model the device
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:27] <locohost> dtml method > document
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:36] <locohost> dtml document, that is
[05-Mar-2008 19:44:23] <locohost> i have just shy of 50 fields, things like storage_total, weight, circuit_id, lease_from, lease_end, purchase_date
[05-Mar-2008 19:47:33] <klinstifen> johns: maybe you could suggest a step 1 and 2?
[05-Mar-2008 19:48:10] <johns55> kinst: do you want to monitor the process or the port it runs off of?
[05-Mar-2008 19:50:23] <klinstifen> johns: process
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:15] <johns55> klins: find what the process name is..
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:44] <johns55> then go to Processes
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:54] <johns55> add a new process with that name
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:58] <johns55> set monitor to true
[05-Mar-2008 19:52:01] <johns55> the remodel the device
[05-Mar-2008 19:53:37] <klinstifen> ok easy
[05-Mar-2008 19:53:51] <klinstifen> i am running ps -ef and that gives path but not "name"
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:04] <johns55> do an lsof -i -n -P
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:10] <johns55> well it depends on ur distro
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:31] <klinstifen> yeah lsof not found
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:37] <locohost> i just did something kinda cool for my vmware server host, it monitors the memory and cpu usage of all the guests on my hosts
[05-Mar-2008 19:55:06] <johns55> try netstat
[05-Mar-2008 19:55:58] <locohost> ps auxf
[05-Mar-2008 19:56:12] <locohost> nevermind
[05-Mar-2008 19:57:41] <idea4gud> wassy: Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[05-Mar-2008 19:57:41] <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:00] <idea4gud> i hav this error cant fig wat it is
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:12] <idea4gud> i dont this folder zenoss/var/
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:47] <locohost> hrm, that sucks
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:55] <locohost> your ganan need var
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:04] <klinstifen> idea did you chmod chown zensocket?
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:09] <klinstifen> per the docs?
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:25] <locohost> ihe said he doesnt even have a var
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:38] <idea4gud> i am follwin inst given on site
[05-Mar-2008 20:00:10] <locohost> did your initial install fail? or did it seem to finish successfuly?
[05-Mar-2008 20:00:59] <idea4gud> well i was able to change the zope.conf as per instruction given to me
[05-Mar-2008 20:01:14] <idea4gud> now when i start the service it gives me this new error
[05-Mar-2008 20:02:28] <locohost> there is a lot of important stuff in /opt/zimbra/var/ ...like Data.fs for example
[05-Mar-2008 20:02:40] <locohost> |sed 's/zimbra/zenoss/g'
[05-Mar-2008 20:04:57] <locohost> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
[05-Mar-2008 20:05:04] <__adytum-bot__> Title: YouTube - Monzy performs at Stanford Univ. (at youtube.com)
[05-Mar-2008 20:06:59] <idea4gud> does it usally hav this path in the installation : /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock
[05-Mar-2008 20:07:07] <idea4gud> i am as zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:03] <locohost> yep
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:04] <locohost> i have it
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:23] <locohost> i have like 30 files in that oflder
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:24] <locohost> folde
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:49] <locohost> 113mb
[05-Mar-2008 20:09:01] <wassy121> johns: thanks for all the help. That got me exactly what I needed to solve the thresholding problem.
[05-Mar-2008 20:18:30] <locohost> idea4, have you tried fully removing the rpm and trying again from scratch
[05-Mar-2008 20:19:09] <locohost> im actually using zenoss-2.1.71-0.el4 under centos5
[05-Mar-2008 20:26:00] <idea4gud> i was using the same version
[05-Mar-2008 20:26:20] <idea4gud> i mean it had some pblm so i downloaded 2.1.2
[05-Mar-2008 20:28:25] <idea4gud> or do u want me to reinstall zenoss 2.1.71 el5 which i hav on my comp
[05-Mar-2008 20:36:02] <locohost> not sure what to tell you, im actually using the el4 version on centos5 which some would probably say is sub-optimal
[05-Mar-2008 20:37:12] <locohost> had to do it with no-deps because of some conflicts with openssl 0.9.7 vs 0.9.8
[05-Mar-2008 21:15:23] wassy121_ is now known as wassy121
[05-Mar-2008 21:16:39] <selfish> ok
[05-Mar-2008 21:16:54] <selfish> Under networks, i have zAutoDisco = false
[05-Mar-2008 21:17:12] <selfish> but it still auto disco'd a bunch of stuff last night
[05-Mar-2008 21:18:36] <wassy121> Hi. I have this switch in my network that has an interface with an ifType of "PropVirtual 53". This is throwing minor alerts in zenoss, because it can't read the ifInOctets, out octets, etc like it does for a standard network interface.
[05-Mar-2008 21:18:51] <wassy121> How can I tell zenoss not to try to monitor or graph that interface?
[05-Mar-2008 21:19:28] <wassy121> Error reading value for "StackSub-St2-1" on SWITCHNAME (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.5183 is bad)
[05-Mar-2008 21:19:38] <wassy121> Is the summary of the event it is throwing.
[05-Mar-2008 21:20:13] <wassy121> I can verify that 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.5183 is not there. Hence the error.
[05-Mar-2008 21:21:17] <wassy121> Or, tell it to use a different template if the ifType is set to 53?
[05-Mar-2008 21:41:24] <locohost> home, home again, i like to be there when i can
[05-Mar-2008 21:43:34] <locohost> can you get rmon stats off of it?
[05-Mar-2008 21:44:11] <wassy121> loco: talking to me?
[05-Mar-2008 21:45:00] <locohost> was, but i really dont know what im talking aboutr
[05-Mar-2008 21:45:41] <wassy121> Me either. Network gear is not my specialty.
[05-Mar-2008 21:46:42] <locohost> was just reading over RFC-2515 and confused myself
[05-Mar-2008 21:46:52] <locohost> what happens when you wallk that if through the commandline
[05-Mar-2008 21:47:56] <wassy121> So, I can walk through 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17 and see the ifOutUcastPkts for all the real interfaces.
[05-Mar-2008 21:48:36] <wassy121> And if I walk 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1, and grep for 5183 (the virtual interface that is throwing the errors), I get realistic-looking output.
[05-Mar-2008 21:48:37] <locohost> but, you want to trach what is happening in that vlan
[05-Mar-2008 21:48:55] <locohost> track
[05-Mar-2008 21:49:51] <wassy121> I don't even know how it is configured exactly. Not sure what that device is besides it's given name in snmp.
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:03] <wassy121> IF-MIB::ifIndex.5183 = INTEGER: 5183
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:03] <wassy121> IF-MIB::ifDescr.5183 = STRING: StackSub-St2-1
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:03] <wassy121> IF-MIB::ifType.5183 = INTEGER: propVirtual(53)
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:05] <locohost> it sounds like it is a vlan
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:13] <locohost> hmm, maybe not
[05-Mar-2008 21:51:39] <locohost> anyway, i got to go home, if i think of anything ill let ya know
[05-Mar-2008 21:52:00] <locohost> i think its just one of your vlans or something to do with rmon maybe, that rfc i posted might help you a bit
[05-Mar-2008 21:52:39] * locohost sets out for nearest place that sells beer
[05-Mar-2008 21:54:23] <idea4gud> pastebin.ca/929599
[05-Mar-2008 21:54:47] <idea4gud> would any1 look @ this and suggest me something
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> [zenoss@raju-vm opt]$ zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> Daemon: zeoctl . . daemon process started, pid=2517
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> Daemon: zopectl . Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[05-Mar-2008 22:22:13] <idea4gud> i changed the permission the on the with execute permission for group and Now it says No such file or directory for zdrun.py
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[06-Mar-2008 04:54:49] <louish> hi all. I'm running the latest version of zenoss community. Everything works okay on the server, and on windows hosts that I want to monitor. But I having problems with my linux servers. I've installed the snmp and configured the host. but when I try a snmpwalk from the zenoss server it times out. I've done some trouble shooting, and a netstat -an |grep -i upd shows
[06-Mar-2008 04:55:03] <louish> udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:*
[06-Mar-2008 04:55:45] <louish> I think the 127.0.0.1 should be 0.0.0.0:161 instead. I don't know how to fix this.
[06-Mar-2008 04:56:34] <louish> anyone have any pointers?
[06-Mar-2008 04:56:42] <wassy121> louish: that is how mine looks too, but it is working fine.
[06-Mar-2008 04:56:49] <wassy121> May be your snmpd.conf is misconfigured.
[06-Mar-2008 04:57:25] <louish> Yeah, maybe but no matter what I try nothing seems to work.
[06-Mar-2008 04:57:40] <wassy121> try running 'snmpconf' on the machine in question, so that it allows access from the other device.
[06-Mar-2008 04:58:16] <wassy121> Hmm, I may be off. Mine is indeed running on 0.0.0.0
[06-Mar-2008 04:58:23] <louish> I've tried that, but my knowledge is very limited with snmpconf. not sure what I'm really doing with it.
[06-Mar-2008 04:58:44] <louish> yours is running 0.0.0.0. And NOT 127.0.0.1?
[06-Mar-2008 04:59:12] <wassy121> correct.
[06-Mar-2008 04:59:19] <louish> k
[06-Mar-2008 04:59:26] <wassy121> I was mistaken earlier. You need to have it listening on all IPs, not just localhost.
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:02] <louish> yeah, that's is what I want. but.... lol It isn't and I'm not sure where it's getting just the localhost
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:16] <wassy121> I have a separate question though. How do I get zenoss to stop monitoring a port?
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:40] <wassy121> I have an SMTP alert for the machine zenoss is running on that won't clear (the process is running and working).
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:58] <louish> did you acknowledge it?
[06-Mar-2008 05:01:21] <wassy121> 20 times or so.
[06-Mar-2008 05:01:42] <wassy121> But, I can do so again.
[06-Mar-2008 05:01:44] <louish> I've only just installed zenoss last night (first time ever using it) but I had a machine do down this morning, and I acknowledged it)
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:06] <wassy121> Yeah, that doesn't seem to stop the alert though.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:14] <louish> and I guess you could delete it and re-add it.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:17] <wassy121> This is my first zenoss install, but I have a fair amount of sysadmin exp.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:33] <wassy121> I don't even care if it is monitored to be honest.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:50] <louish> lol then I guess you could just delete it.
[06-Mar-2008 05:03:09] <wassy121> I have. It comes back.
[06-Mar-2008 05:03:58] <wassy121> Once I remove it, and the device gets remodelled (once every few hours or so) it comes back as an IPService.
[06-Mar-2008 05:04:02] <louish> where does it come back to? where are you deleting it from??
[06-Mar-2008 05:04:11] <louish> ah
[06-Mar-2008 05:05:09] <wassy121> I am deleting it from the OS tab of the device.
[06-Mar-2008 05:05:30] <louish> any ideas on how I can have snmpd listen on 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 ?
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:15] <wassy121> hmm. It is most probably in snmpd.conf
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:19] <wassy121> Best I can tell you
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:39] <wassy121> egrep -v '^$|^\#' /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf - gives the raw config directives.
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:50] <wassy121> (just greps out comments/blank lines)
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:39] <louish> egrep -v '^$|^\#' /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> com2sec notConfigUser default public
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> com2sec local 10.1.1.0/24 public
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> group notConfigGroup v1 notConfigUser
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> group notConfigGroup v2c notConfigUser
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> view systemview included .1
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:42] <louish> access notConfigGroup "" any noauth exact systemview none none
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:44] <louish> syslocation Unknown (configure /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf)
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:46] <louish> syscontact Root <root@localhost> (configure /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf)
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:03] <louish> hmmm
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:24] <wassy121> Yeah. Hmm indeed.
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:30] <louish> i've done a ps aux |grep snmpd and look at the end of the line.
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:34] <louish> snmp 16047 0.0 0.1 41932 4956 ? S 22:26 0:00 /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:20] <louish> where would that be coming from?
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:24] <louish> :/
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:29] <wassy121> init script probably.
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:32] <wassy121> What OS?
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:49] <louish> Ubuntu 7.06
[06-Mar-2008 05:12:11] <wassy121> hmm, let me install on laptop so I have a better clue.
[06-Mar-2008 05:12:32] <louish> sry. brain freeze. 7.04
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[06-Mar-2008 05:14:19] <wassy121> vi /etc/default/snmpd
[06-Mar-2008 05:14:31] <wassy121> Remove the '127.0.0.1', restart, good to go.
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:16] <wassy121>
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:19] <wassy121> Worked for me.
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:55] <louish> ohhhhh
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:59] <louish> one sec.
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:01] <wassy121> Word?
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:17] <louish> WORD!!!!!
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:23] <wassy121>
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:33] <louish> awesome. TY much wassy121
[06-Mar-2008 05:17:54] <wassy121> Now to get rid of this silly SMTP error.
[06-Mar-2008 05:17:54] <louish> now when I do a snmpwalk from the zenoss server. That linux box is now displaying alot of snmp info....
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:13] <wassy121> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2724&sid=4b1a7db485e160128058ffcbd4d401d7
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:19] <wassy121> Looks to be a description of my problem.
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:23] <wassy121> good.
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Patch / Hack to make Ip Service monitors for virtual IPs (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Mar-2008 05:19:21] <wassy121> Now you should be able to add the device to zenoss, and have it come up with pretty graphs and all the monitored services and whatnot.
[06-Mar-2008 05:19:36] <louish> r u running virtual servers? off one nic?
[06-Mar-2008 05:20:04] <wassy121> No, I am running smtp on the internal IP only.
[06-Mar-2008 05:20:23] <wassy121> Zen seems to be checking the external IP for the service, and failing.
[06-Mar-2008 05:20:29] <wassy121> Is my guess.
[06-Mar-2008 05:22:08] <wassy121> Man, I don't even think this SMTP service is doing anything.
[06-Mar-2008 05:22:12] <wassy121> Why is it running . . .
[06-Mar-2008 05:22:20] <wassy121> I kind of want to shut it down and see who/what complains ;-)
[06-Mar-2008 05:23:46] <louish> lol yeah
[06-Mar-2008 05:23:53] <louish> I hear yeah.
[06-Mar-2008 05:25:57] <louish> hey. do you how long it takes before zenoss will start to display data from a host? within zenoss I now have a green (snmp) link for the linux server, but under component type it says "no records found"
[06-Mar-2008 05:27:03] <wassy121> "component type"? Where is that tab/link?
[06-Mar-2008 05:27:49] <wassy121> Did you add the device after the change we made above wrt local listening socket?
[06-Mar-2008 05:28:04] <wassy121> If you added it before we fixed it, you may need to model the device.
[06-Mar-2008 05:28:28] <louish> "/Device/Server/Linux/ipaddy"
[06-Mar-2008 05:28:41] <louish> no it was already there.
[06-Mar-2008 05:29:11] <wassy121> Yeah, click on the triangle menu, manage-model device
[06-Mar-2008 05:29:47] <wassy121> It should go to a text output screen, give you some info for about 45 seconds, then you can go back into the device, and have it show like a normal machine.
[06-Mar-2008 05:31:57] <wassy121> Sweet. So, I fixed the stupid problem.
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:11] <wassy121> I enabled SMTP on all IPs, and just iptabled it out. Silly zenoss.
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:15] <louish> wow. Yeah there was quite a bit. Hey I notice that it mentioned some plug'ins were not there! Do I (should I be installing more plug-ins on the zenoss server?)
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:22] <louish> lol
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:24] <louish> really?
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:49] <wassy121> I am still new to this man. I can't really say what you "should" do.
[06-Mar-2008 05:33:18] <sr_> no..I think "snmp.portscan" will do the trick
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:08] <sr_> you need to configure the collector plugins and include snmp.portscan ... by default it is not included.
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:12] <wassy121> son of a whore. zenoss is still counting it as 'down' since it can't connect on the proper IP address.
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:26] <louish> lol
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:26] <wassy121> sr: You talking to me?
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:52] <sr_> sorry.. I think I misunderstood..
[06-Mar-2008 05:35:21] <louish> collector plugins k
[06-Mar-2008 05:35:58] <wassy121> sr: You got any idea how to stop zenoss from monitoring an IPService? SMTP is not available on the same IP that SNMP is running on, so zen is throwing errors.
[06-Mar-2008 05:36:59] <sr_> I'll check and get back to you..
[06-Mar-2008 05:37:39] <wassy121> The issue is very similar to the one outlined here http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2724&sid=4b1a7db485e160128058ffcbd4d401d7
[06-Mar-2008 05:37:57] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Patch / Hack to make Ip Service monitors for virtual IPs (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Mar-2008 05:38:12] <sr_> can we do something with Zproperties?
[06-Mar-2008 05:41:14] <louish> sr_, I'm zCollectorPlugins. How can I "add" or "include" snmp.portscan?
[06-Mar-2008 05:42:24] <louish> or were you talking about zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap?
[06-Mar-2008 05:45:18] <sr_> sorry..dude..you're correct , actually it's zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap
[06-Mar-2008 05:45:40] <wassy121> sleep now. bye bye.
[06-Mar-2008 05:47:28] <louish> sr_ cool. ty
[06-Mar-2008 05:47:37] <louish> wassy121, night. and thanks for the help...
[06-Mar-2008 05:55:25] <sr_> bye...bye..
[06-Mar-2008 09:10:09] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. Looks like Zenoss installed and fired up well on my Ubuntu box .. but my un-nooblike question is .. how do I access it via www?
[06-Mar-2008 09:12:16] <NineTeen67Comet> I followed the install .. made /home/zenoss and a user/password .. etc etc .. my question I guess .. is how to I access /home/zenoss via the web? My sites all run out of /var/www/<site directory>
[06-Mar-2008 09:48:46] <NineTeen67Comet> It looks like zenoss installed well .. but the passwd/username isn't working .. is there a way to reset the username/passwords?
[06-Mar-2008 10:01:32] <NineTeen67Comet> I keep getting cut off my network, but is there a way to reset or find out my username and password for my fresh install?
[06-Mar-2008 14:11:14] <locohost> admin zenoss?
[06-Mar-2008 14:45:20] <btsteve> I am having an issue with my graphs there are 15 mins gaps in the graphs. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06-Mar-2008 14:57:29] <[Wiebel]> get a marker
[06-Mar-2008 14:58:55] <btsteve> thanks
[06-Mar-2008 14:59:57] <locohost> how big are peoples zenoss databases getting?
[06-Mar-2008 15:00:04] <locohost> i think i need to grow my opt
[06-Mar-2008 15:09:31] <locohost> 15 minute gaps repeating, or just at a certain time?
[06-Mar-2008 15:12:58] <btsteve> looks like repeating
[06-Mar-2008 15:15:12] <locohost> any kinda pattern?
[06-Mar-2008 15:21:27] <btsteve> looks like 45 mins of grapgs the a gap then back to graphing
[06-Mar-2008 15:22:46] <locohost> so once an hour, your missing 15 minutes?
[06-Mar-2008 15:23:33] <locohost> system load is fine on the zenoss box, you dont have a cron running or something that could be pegging io or something?
[06-Mar-2008 15:23:39] <locohost> no errors in the zenoss logs?
[06-Mar-2008 15:32:12] <btsteve> any specific log i should look in?
[06-Mar-2008 15:57:43] <locohost> not sure, im stabbing around in the dark
[06-Mar-2008 16:02:46] <locohost> does anyone think it will break anything if i move /opt/zenoss to /usr/local/zenoss and symlink /opt/zenoss?
[06-Mar-2008 16:14:11] <locohost> select a.*, b.* from cmdb_device a left join cmdb_disks b on a.name = b.name where a.name = '<dtml-sqlvar cmdb_name type="string">';
[06-Mar-2008 16:14:29] <locohost> mt, sry
[06-Mar-2008 16:50:55] <btsteve> ok np there are somany log files i was just trying to narrow it down.
[06-Mar-2008 18:37:20] <jeld> hello all
[06-Mar-2008 18:37:54] <jeld> I am trying to figure out how zenoss works and so far it has been a pretty alien experience.
[06-Mar-2008 18:39:28] <jeld> I have a dozen servers that I want to monitor, at the moment I only have 3 defined. One of the keeps telling me that "both admin1 and admin1.forsalebyowner.trb are using IP address 10.5.2.20" these are just two names for the same box, how can I tell it to stop doing this?
[06-Mar-2008 18:45:54] <locohost> delete one
[06-Mar-2008 18:46:18] <jeld> I only have one of those defined
[06-Mar-2008 18:46:34] <jeld> as soon as I add admin1 it starts doing that
[06-Mar-2008 18:46:38] <locohost> if you only have a dozen servers, you can probably do without auto-discovery to, imo
[06-Mar-2008 18:47:57] <jeld> locohost: where do I turn it off?
[06-Mar-2008 18:49:00] <locohost> you have any comm gear, or just servers?
[06-Mar-2008 18:49:55] <jeld> yes, I have some switches, a SAN,load balancers etc.
[06-Mar-2008 18:50:09] <jeld> all of my systems are multihomed
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[06-Mar-2008 18:51:48] <locohost> i think auto discovery works by looking at the routing table of your core gear
[06-Mar-2008 18:52:45] <locohost> where does it say that admin1 and admin1.fqdn have the same ip?
[06-Mar-2008 18:52:53] <locohost> in the event.log?
[06-Mar-2008 18:53:40] <jeld> yes, it is a /Events/Status/Ping event
[06-Mar-2008 18:56:29] <locohost> also, im not sure how to disable autodiscovery , its gatta be in one of the confs or somethintg
[06-Mar-2008 18:58:50] <rdb> hmm my zenoss http stopped responding... reboot doesn't fix it either...
[06-Mar-2008 18:58:54] <jeld> I have to say I am a bit lost in general, as soon as I add SSH to processes it starts complaining about me closing SSH sessions (regex sshd catches actual SSH session handlers)
[06-Mar-2008 18:59:29] <jeld> I cannot seem to figure out where to set alerts for load average or for CPU utilization
[06-Mar-2008 18:59:30] <rdb> lighttpd is what Zenoss uses for the web interface right?
[06-Mar-2008 19:00:44] <locohost> naw, i dont think it uses lighty
[06-Mar-2008 19:01:01] <rdb> hmm no that's just the raa
[06-Mar-2008 19:01:14] <rdb> nothing is listening on 8080 so whatever it should be isn't running
[06-Mar-2008 19:01:57] <locohost> isnt zope what listens and servers the pages?
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:06] <locohost> could be way off
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:25] <jeld> rdb: AFAIK zope has its own http daemon implementation
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:39] <jeld> rdb: and zenoss is using it
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> [locohost@regnard ~]$ cat /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf|grep 8080
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> # configurations. For example, if the http-server port is 8080 and
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> # An HTTP server starts on port 8080.
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> address 8080
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:15] <rdb> ok thanks, so zope is failing somehow.
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:35] <locohost> i know its possible to get it working with your own apache
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:52] <rdb> well I'm using an appliance so I want to keep it stock
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:57] <locohost> ive read that anyway
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:25] <locohost> wget localhost:8080 get you anywhere?
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:46] <jeld> how do I remove zenpacks?
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:46] <rdb> connection refused
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:53] <rdb> netstat -na | grep 8080 returns nothing
[06-Mar-2008 19:05:09] <locohost> sudo /etc/init.d/zenoss status?
[06-Mar-2008 19:05:13] <jeld> rdb: what does /etc/init.d/zenoss restart say?
[06-Mar-2008 19:05:48] <locohost> well, you may want to check the status before you restart
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:20] <rdb> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:32] <locohost> thats ganna need to be running!
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:36] <locohost> heh
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:52] <locohost> try just a start, it will try and start the processes that is not running only
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:55] <locohost> see if you get any errors
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:56] <rdb> heh tried starrting it
[06-Mar-2008 19:07:48] <rdb> still nothing listening on 8080
[06-Mar-2008 19:08:19] <locohost> what did the init script say when you started it?
[06-Mar-2008 19:08:27] <locohost> ...zopectl running on pid...
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:03] <rdb> it just started zeoctl, no erros
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:17] <rdb> it's dead again...
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:18] <locohost> and if you do status again, is it still running, or did it stop?
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:35] <rdb> it was running for a minute or so
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:37] <rdb> then stopped
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:56] <rdb> which is its event log?
[06-Mar-2008 19:10:57] <locohost> anything iun event event.log?
[06-Mar-2008 19:11:20] <locohost> not sure, there are so many log files, im guessing it would ble in /opt/zenoss/log/event.log
[06-Mar-2008 19:11:50] <locohost> i think /opt/zenoss/log/Z2.log is the equiv of like /var/log/apache/access_log
[06-Mar-2008 19:12:26] <locohost> did you try wgeting local host on 8080 immediatly after the start, to see if it is really listening for a second?
[06-Mar-2008 19:13:46] <rdb> yeah it listens for a moment
[06-Mar-2008 19:13:50] <rdb> but doesn't let anything load
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:02] <rdb> Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:8080... connected.
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:02] <rdb> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers.
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:30] <rdb> nothing in event.log in the last 3 hours
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:56] <rdb> which is when it stopped working
[06-Mar-2008 19:15:22] <locohost> anyone know off hand where i can find hte change log for zenoss-2.1.2-0.el4 to zenoss-2.1.71-0.el4?
[06-Mar-2008 19:15:43] <locohost> okay, so it was working and stopped. upgrade or anyhting, or just crapped out on its own?
[06-Mar-2008 19:16:04] <rdb> locohost; crapped out. I was just creating event mappings after enabling my first syslog client
[06-Mar-2008 19:16:25] <rdb> hmm ok I renamed the zeo1-1.zec and restarted and now it works
[06-Mar-2008 19:16:41] <rdb> I remember having to do that occasionally on my last Zenoss implementation at my last job......
[06-Mar-2008 19:17:21] <locohost> interesting, what exactly is /opt/zenoss/var/zeo1-1.zec, looks like a lot of garble with html mixed in
[06-Mar-2008 19:17:32] <rdb> hmm maybe it's working.... hasn't brought up the dashboard yet.
[06-Mar-2008 19:17:41] <locohost> is that cache?
[06-Mar-2008 19:20:31] <rdb> ok it's working now... slow, but workign.
[06-Mar-2008 19:20:52] <rdb> cpu pegged at 100%
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:23] <locohost> whats eating it?
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:44] <rdb> not sure anymore, load @ 1.98 but is coming down now and 89% idle
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:52] <locohost> top?
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:58] <rdb> maybe it was just getting going still.
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:09] <locohost> 1.98 isnt so bad. single cpu box?
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:20] <locohost> its not a vm, is it?
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:23] <rdb> yeah, had 2x allocated to it but it never used the 2nd cpu
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:28] <rdb> yeah it's vm
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:50] <locohost> for testing, or that is your prod box?
[06-Mar-2008 19:23:13] <rdb> prod
[06-Mar-2008 19:23:59] <locohost> wait, you said you only had 12 systesms, so i bet that will be fine. but as a general rule, people dont recoment using a vm for their monitoring system
[06-Mar-2008 19:24:11] <locohost> especially a virtual app
[06-Mar-2008 19:24:53] <locohost> also, i cant find it, but i once read an article in sysadmin mag, they did a bunch of tests with nagios, and found it performed better in a vm with a single cpu then with 2
[06-Mar-2008 19:25:41] <rdb> I never said I had 12 systems. I have ~120
[06-Mar-2008 19:28:17] <locohost> sry, that was jeld
[06-Mar-2008 19:29:03] <locohost> that might be pushing it for a vm. i do think your just wasting the second cpu though, you could probably take that away and see no diff
[06-Mar-2008 19:29:26] <locohost> esx house, or your just going off 1.4 or something?
[06-Mar-2008 19:31:12] <locohost> im using an ibm hs21 blade with 8 gigs of memory and 2 dualcore 2.66ghz xeons
[06-Mar-2008 19:31:27] <locohost> for about 800 systems and 80 peices of gear
[06-Mar-2008 19:31:31] <locohost> comm gear
[06-Mar-2008 19:32:17] <twm1010> my zenoss VM is attached a windows box running GSX server, dual 3.2, 4GB ram, i have given zenoss 1GB ram and one CPU
[06-Mar-2008 19:32:22] <twm1010> monitoring 141 other devices
[06-Mar-2008 19:32:35] <twm1010> no issues
[06-Mar-2008 19:35:04] <rdb> yeah I could bump up my RAM that would probably be helpful, it's got 768MB right now.
[06-Mar-2008 19:35:56] <rdb> I think the problem is that the ASA I pointed to my Zenoss syslog was in debug mode ;-)
[06-Mar-2008 19:36:04] <rdb> 55k events in no time flat
[06-Mar-2008 19:40:03] <rdb> thanks for the help
[06-Mar-2008 19:47:39] <idea4gud> locohost: u here?
[06-Mar-2008 19:48:04] <locohost> cool, rdb
[06-Mar-2008 19:48:17] <locohost> sounds liek twm doesnt think you will have a problem with a vm
[06-Mar-2008 19:48:41] <idea4gud> can i install another version say 2.1.71 the latest in other installation
[06-Mar-2008 19:49:08] <idea4gud> i mean since i already hav other version
[06-Mar-2008 19:49:59] <idea4gud> so would be some clash so i do first erase the exisitn version or do i install the new version in a separate directory and is latter possible
[06-Mar-2008 19:53:43] <locohost> sudo rpm -e `rpm -qa|grep zenoss`
[06-Mar-2008 19:54:23] <locohost> i would fully remove it first
[06-Mar-2008 19:59:52] <idea4gud> also i do remember very well that that zenoss 2.1.71 had some problem which i was facing
[06-Mar-2008 19:59:57] <idea4gud> it didnt hav some module in it
[06-Mar-2008 20:00:26] <locohost> libcrypt.so or osmething?
[06-Mar-2008 20:00:26] <idea4gud> but i didnt log the error
[06-Mar-2008 20:00:47] <locohost> the rpm wont install because of dependencies?
[06-Mar-2008 20:01:00] <idea4gud> i guess some thing like that
[06-Mar-2008 20:01:09] <idea4gud> then i moved to 2.1.2 version
[06-Mar-2008 20:01:30] <idea4gud> so is there any way i can retrieve the error that i was facing with 2.1.71
[06-Mar-2008 20:02:32] <locohost> when did you get the error, when you tried to install the rpm?
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:21] <idea4gud> dont remeber exactly
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:41] <locohost> so, is anything currently installed?
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:48] <locohost> or. did you remove it?
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:51] <locohost> rpm -qa|grep zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:04:08] <idea4gud> i have 2.1.2 installed currently
[06-Mar-2008 20:05:31] <locohost> so, do you want to remove it and try to install 2.1.71?
[06-Mar-2008 20:10:05] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:10:23] <idea4gud> but i wanna retrieve the error tht i was facin with 2.1.71
[06-Mar-2008 20:12:05] <locohost> cant you find what you did in your bash history?
[06-Mar-2008 20:12:20] <locohost> or, of you used sudo, it should be in /var/log/secure
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:02] <idea4gud> i was root
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:22] <locohost> naughty
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:37] <locohost> so, sudo cat ~root/.bash_history|grep zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:44] <idea4gud> i am new so any silly thing bear with me
[06-Mar-2008 20:14:34] <locohost> its just never to do things as root, mainly for security and auditing
[06-Mar-2008 20:15:49] <locohost> just best*, rather. doesnt really matter
[06-Mar-2008 20:27:21] <locohost> im so behind the times. bgcolor="#FFFFFF" for table tags was depreceated, huh
[06-Mar-2008 20:39:29] <idea4gud> even now when i install 2.1.71 and check /opt/zenoss dir
[06-Mar-2008 20:39:37] <idea4gud> it doesnt show var folder
[06-Mar-2008 20:39:42] <idea4gud> in the zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:41:57] <locohost> and the install went throguyh cleanly?
[06-Mar-2008 20:42:42] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:44:53] <locohost> you didnt have to force it, you just did rpm -ivh?
[06-Mar-2008 20:46:20] <idea4gud> yes i just rpm -Uvh zen*
[06-Mar-2008 20:46:41] <locohost> so, you tried to do an upgrade?
[06-Mar-2008 20:47:19] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:47:45] <idea4gud> so u do think this the reason for not havin var folder in zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:48:39] <locohost> i dont know, i kinda doubht it, i think if you give rpm an U (for upgrade) and its not installed, it must just do the same as it would for i (install)
[06-Mar-2008 20:48:58] <locohost> you really should have a var
[06-Mar-2008 20:49:11] <idea4gud> in the /opt/zenoss/ ?
[06-Mar-2008 20:49:20] <locohost> yeah
[06-Mar-2008 20:49:40] <locohost> unless, nothing is changed in /opt/zenoss/var in an upgrade, so it just iggys that folder
[06-Mar-2008 20:50:08] <locohost> maybe that is the reason. Anyone know if using rpm -Uvh would cause /var not to be there?
[06-Mar-2008 20:50:44] <locohost> i suppose it doenst hurt to uninstall it again, and try with an I, your already screwed right? cant break it more
[06-Mar-2008 20:50:55] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:58:22] <idea4gud> loco: same thing no var under zenoss but..
[06-Mar-2008 20:58:59] <idea4gud> when ever it installin it says not copyin any file from skel into the directory
[06-Mar-2008 20:59:08] <idea4gud> and skel has a subfolder named VAR
[06-Mar-2008 21:14:51] <locohost> it specificatly says that it is not, huh, weird
[06-Mar-2008 21:15:05] <locohost> and, that dir doesnt exist right? its not still there with bad permissions or something?
[06-Mar-2008 21:15:14] <locohost> you installing as zenoss or root?
[06-Mar-2008 21:17:16] <idea4gud> i am instalin as zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:17:25] <idea4gud> but i do hav folder in the skel dir
[06-Mar-2008 21:17:30] <idea4gud> named var
[06-Mar-2008 21:20:47] <locohost> zenoss has permissions to write to var?
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:21] <locohost> i mean, opt/zenoss/var..well, i guess it would have to
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:28] <locohost> but, i think you want to do the install as root
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:30] <locohost> or with sudo
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:44] <locohost> the install with apply the correct perms
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:54] <idea4gud> wat i am tryin to tel is that there is folder var in skel sub-dir of zenoss DIR
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:55] <Bulwinkle> locohost: what install? zenoss install should ALWAYS be done as zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:23:22] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: what about the var directory?
[06-Mar-2008 21:24:31] <idea4gud> VAR directory is not present in my install under zenoss folder
[06-Mar-2008 21:24:57] <idea4gud> i tried with 2.1.2 also had the same problem
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:19] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: what kind of install? from package or source?
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:28] <idea4gud> rpm package
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:55] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: you should do the package install as root
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:57] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: what distro?
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:00] <idea4gud> centos
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:03] <idea4gud> 5
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:05] <idea4gud> i did as root
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:14] <idea4gud> i am sorry if said i did as zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:28:59] <idea4gud> bin doc etc export extras import include lib libexec log man Products share skel zeoctl
[06-Mar-2008 21:29:08] <idea4gud> these r folder i hav in my zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:33:13] <locohost> the zenoss install creates a zenoss user. your telling me for the first implementation of zenoss you should first create a user zenoss, su to that user and then install the rpm
[06-Mar-2008 21:33:54] <idea4gud> u tellin me loco?
[06-Mar-2008 21:34:03] <locohost> not, asking bulwinkle
[06-Mar-2008 21:34:51] <locohost> no* not not
[06-Mar-2008 22:00:54] <maj> guys, for some reason i am getting this error when i try to add device on 2.1.2
[06-Mar-2008 22:00:55] <maj> Traceback (most recent call last): File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 128, in loadDevice except e: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before assignment
[06-Mar-2008 22:02:42] <maj> does anybody know why?
[06-Mar-2008 22:04:12] <locohost> check out line 128 of /usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.p
[06-Mar-2008 22:11:46] <maj> hrm, maybe its because i don't have python-pysnmp2 installed
[06-Mar-2008 22:18:33] <maj> nope
[06-Mar-2008 22:21:29] <maj> ok, i didn't have snmp installed, i.e. netsnmp libs
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[06-Mar-2008 22:54:44] <idea4gud> why does var folder doesnt show up when i install any of the rpms of zenoss
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[07-Mar-2008 09:14:01] <raz> hi guys
[07-Mar-2008 09:14:06] <raz> is there an online demo of zenoss anywhere?
[07-Mar-2008 14:27:33] <locohost> still having trouble with that var folder idea4?
[07-Mar-2008 14:34:41] <btsteve> i am still getting the gaps in my graphs i have been watvhing the log files and these are the errors i have seen.
[07-Mar-2008 14:34:42] <btsteve> http://pastebin.ca/932104
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[07-Mar-2008 15:05:02] <btsteve> I need help trying to figure out why i am getting gaps in my graphs. there does not appear to be any errors in the logs.
[07-Mar-2008 15:15:01] <locohost> i kinda doubt that message in your pastbin is related to the blank rrds
[07-Mar-2008 15:18:23] <btsteve> ok Any other ideas. It has me stumped.
[07-Mar-2008 15:28:27] <locohost> is this a dedicated system for zenoss?
[07-Mar-2008 15:44:28] <locohost> see if there are any errors in zenperfsnmp
[07-Mar-2008 15:44:36] <locohost> maybe something liek this is happening?
[07-Mar-2008 15:44:36] <locohost> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=528&sid=2fbf54ae4b46f90922a7fdcdd235d949
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[07-Mar-2008 16:07:25] <idea4gud> hi does any hav any idea why var directory is not set up in the installation
[07-Mar-2008 16:07:37] <idea4gud> i tried with diff version but no progress
[07-Mar-2008 16:07:58] <idea4gud> Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[07-Mar-2008 16:07:58] <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[07-Mar-2008 16:21:12] <muqeet> Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[07-Mar-2008 16:21:12] <muqeet> <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[07-Mar-2008 16:21:44] <muqeet> any help would be appreciated
[07-Mar-2008 17:09:03] <btsteve> This is what i am getting in my zenperfsnmp http://btsteve.pastebin.ca/932275
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[07-Mar-2008 17:09:16] <btsteve> I am getting Warnings not Errors
[07-Mar-2008 17:17:03] <locohost> steve, are those the devices that are not updating?
[07-Mar-2008 17:18:27] <btsteve> yes that is all of the devices in the system. looks like the graph is not updates at all now.
[07-Mar-2008 17:19:35] <locohost> could it be that it is not finishing polling all the devices within the poll interval?
[07-Mar-2008 17:21:06] <btsteve> i guess so. i think it polls things every 5 mins. where should i change this to test?
[07-Mar-2008 17:22:40] <btsteve> it looks like it is reading the values from the device, but not creating the graph
[07-Mar-2008 17:25:15] <btsteve> ok looks like it might not have liked the IBM blade center control module i was watching. i deleted it and it seems to have started graphing again. i am going to go to lunch and let it graph for a while and check it again.
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:02] <locohost> ibm blade centers! yuck!
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:25] * locohost has 10
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:26] <btsteve> Why yuck?
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:43] <locohost> i dont like the remote management console
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:52] <btsteve> we like it,
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:59] <btsteve> any suggestions on monitoring?
[07-Mar-2008 17:27:11] <locohost> do you have the kvm cards installed in the blades?
[07-Mar-2008 17:28:17] <btsteve> Not 100% sure it have a mgnt module and we are able to get a kvm type screen
[07-Mar-2008 17:28:17] <locohost> not really. maybe there is someway to get info from ibm director, i havent really got a chance to look into that
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:13] <locohost> with the modules, 14 people could control 14 blades in the same chassis concurrently
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:25] <btsteve> cool
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:26] <locohost> without them, you can only do 2, kinda sucks
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:57] <locohost> insert into my_table (name) values ('test'); how do i make that ignore what i said if something with the name test already exists?
[07-Mar-2008 17:30:00] <btsteve> i dont think we have the KVM modules, but we never really have to do anything to them
[07-Mar-2008 17:30:36] <btsteve> Well i am going to let this grapg for a while and check back on it.
[07-Mar-2008 17:30:45] <locohost> gl
[07-Mar-2008 18:40:07] <btsteve> ok looks like killing the Blade Center Monitoring fixed it.
[07-Mar-2008 18:42:31] <btsteve> looks like it was gummng up the whole system.
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[07-Mar-2008 20:09:25] <locohost> maybe it was taking to long to respond?
[07-Mar-2008 20:09:35] <locohost> and your polls were wrapping
[07-Mar-2008 20:59:04] <btsteve> Could have been.
[07-Mar-2008 21:11:33] <locohost> what were you trying to get off the chassis anyway? anyhting useful there? i know there are power stats and stuff in director
[07-Mar-2008 21:30:23] <btsteve> No clue like i said i am new to snmp and i am just trying to setup out network to monitor stuff. You have been a big help thanks.
[07-Mar-2008 21:31:23] <btsteve> you dont know anyone that uses inline corp storage equiptment do you?
[07-Mar-2008 21:32:37] <locohost> no, we have a 2x ds4800's and a netapp
[07-Mar-2008 21:33:49] <btsteve> i have never seen a device i am able to find out so little about.
[07-Mar-2008 21:34:53] <locohost> looking at their website, it seems like they probably suck
[07-Mar-2008 21:35:16] <btsteve> I think they are ok, i know a lot of usenet services use them.
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> know much about html form actions? cant seem to get a simple one to work, probably because i suck at life
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> <FORM ACTION="insertintocmdb" METHOD=GET>
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> <INPUT NAME=cmdb_field_value><INPUT TYPE=submit VALUE="update cmdb">
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> (cmdb_name=devname,cmdb_field = 'domain')
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> </FORM>
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:17] <locohost> im formatting something wrong
[07-Mar-2008 21:38:39] <btsteve> I dont but i asked my buddy
[07-Mar-2008 21:40:21] <btsteve> ok not a correct form variable
[07-Mar-2008 21:42:22] <locohost> yeah, i knew it wasnt correct, its not working i could have told myself that
[07-Mar-2008 21:43:09] <btsteve> CORRECTED:<FORM ACTION="insertintocmdb" METHOD="GET"> <INPUT NAME="cmdb_field_value" TYPE="submit" VALUE="update cmdb"></FORM>
[07-Mar-2008 21:43:26] <wassy121> Hi there. Is there a way to add a user-editable field to a device listing? Like emergency instructions, or machine notes or something?
[07-Mar-2008 21:43:38] <btsteve> Are you 100% sure this needs a GET? 99% of the time it will be POST
[07-Mar-2008 21:44:40] <locohost> no, i dont know html very well, just kinda of look it up as i go along
[07-Mar-2008 21:47:12] <locohost> now there is no text box to enter my value
[07-Mar-2008 21:47:39] <locohost> wassy: i needed way more fields then zenoss had, so im in the process of tieing into into my own sql backend
[07-Mar-2008 21:52:07] <locohost> well, the clock just struck beer
[07-Mar-2008 21:59:41] <wassy121> Anyone else have an idea on how to add a custom data field with machine notes or similar?
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[10-Mar-2008 04:57:42] <sajith> I'm new to ZenOSS.. Can somebody tell me, how can I avoid the detection of particular service in ZenOSS..such as SMTP..
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[10-Mar-2008 05:18:56] <sajithr> hi.. I'm new to ZenOSS.. can somebody tell me how can I avoid detecting particular services in ZenOSS.
[10-Mar-2008 05:19:03] <sajithr> such as SMTP..
[10-Mar-2008 05:19:58] <sajithr> can somebody help me?
[10-Mar-2008 11:59:39] <Karnaugh> hi
[10-Mar-2008 11:59:46] <Karnaugh> the docs lack a critical piece of information
[10-Mar-2008 11:59:56] <Karnaugh> how do you actualy connect to your zenoss system after install?
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:12] <Karnaugh> I dug out port 8081 from lsof
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:15] <Karnaugh> but it gives faultCode 8002 faultString Unauthorized
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:20] <Karnaugh> which is not useful
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:42] <monrad> it should be 8080
[10-Mar-2008 12:01:49] <Karnaugh> I have a proxy on 8080
[10-Mar-2008 12:01:54] <Karnaugh> why would it default to a proxy port?
[10-Mar-2008 12:02:24] <Karnaugh> doesn't look like a proxy, how silly
[10-Mar-2008 12:02:33] * Karnaugh changes it
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:24] <Xander7> Having some problems with adding devices that I've previously added (and deleted) under a different name
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:34] <Xander7> I keep getting 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx sendto error Host lion and lion.mydomain.net are both using ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:48] <Xander7> where lion.mydomain.net is the old hostname
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:50] <Xander7> and lion in the new
[10-Mar-2008 12:05:12] <Xander7> It still seems to think the fully qualified name is still added
[10-Mar-2008 14:29:58] <locohost> yawn, mornin. stupid daylight savings time
[10-Mar-2008 14:31:55] <locohost> xander, though: try deleting /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/lion.mydomain.net/
[10-Mar-2008 14:31:57] <locohost> maybe..
[10-Mar-2008 14:36:11] <btsteve> I am about to kill Zenoss. The Gaps are back in my graphs again. zenperf keeps reporting it has a problem.
[10-Mar-2008 14:39:15] <locohost> what is its problem?
[10-Mar-2008 14:39:45] <locohost> have you added more devices or more trending or anything?
[10-Mar-2008 14:40:27] <btsteve> I added a cisco router in NY
[10-Mar-2008 14:40:36] <locohost> im conserned because my director looks at my circuit throughput reports every night,and will for sure let me know right away if i start having any problems like you are having
[10-Mar-2008 14:40:38] <locohost> heh
[10-Mar-2008 14:41:30] <btsteve> how do i get rid of the not in topology warnings?
[10-Mar-2008 14:42:54] <locohost> i think there is some file you have to run, something to do with not discoving all the routes from your commgear
[10-Mar-2008 14:44:15] <locohost> do you not have a route to the host its giving you there error for?
[10-Mar-2008 14:44:58] <btsteve> No they are in different datacenters and route acress the internet.
[10-Mar-2008 14:57:26] <locohost> steve: i wonder if there is a threading option, and you can up the amount of threads used for collecting,
[10-Mar-2008 14:57:37] <locohost> again, not sure if that is the problem....
[10-Mar-2008 14:58:05] <locohost> i just looked through a few of the confs looking for something with no luck. although, i kinda remember seeing something like that in my travels
[10-Mar-2008 14:58:36] <btsteve> seems that zenperf process stops working only way to get it back is stop the service and restart
[10-Mar-2008 15:03:16] <locohost> bah, it crashed on your again?
[10-Mar-2008 15:07:17] <locohost> does anyone know if there is some sort of threading option for collection?
[10-Mar-2008 18:06:07] <btsteve> ok looks like anytime it gets hung on a device it stops graphing for all devices.
[10-Mar-2008 18:32:00] <KillMeNow> i've seen similar behavior with MRTG steve
[10-Mar-2008 18:34:18] <locohost> is it a specific device or oid it is hanging on?
[10-Mar-2008 18:39:30] <btsteve> nor sure. Remember it was the bladecenter the other day not it was a cisco router, i deleted and readded it and things are back to normal.
[10-Mar-2008 21:20:34] <idea4gud> hi guyz i need ur help
[10-Mar-2008 21:21:02] <idea4gud> I am still stuck with my Zenoss with varfolder not present /opt/zenoss/
[10-Mar-2008 21:22:41] <idea4gud> now i am tryin to restart the VM but it goes into the infinite loop msg /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock not present
[10-Mar-2008 21:22:48] <idea4gud> and it just hangs
[10-Mar-2008 21:23:07] <idea4gud> soi cant do any thing with my VM so is there any way to get rid of this.
[10-Mar-2008 21:36:52] <locohost> you are connecting to the box through the vmware console, and you cant use it because its stuck at that screen, and wont let you ctrl +c out?
[10-Mar-2008 21:36:54] <locohost> is that your issue?
[10-Mar-2008 21:57:05] <idea4gud> no thre issue is when i reboot my machine on console
[10-Mar-2008 21:57:17] <idea4gud> it starts zenoss daemon
[10-Mar-2008 21:57:34] <idea4gud> it stcuks @ zopectl deamon with hangin in the loop
[10-Mar-2008 22:01:01] <b52laptop> hi
[10-Mar-2008 22:01:45] <b52laptop> hm bad place to ask this question : do yu know but any tool more simpler than nagios for sys monitoring and non java && php based
?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:11] <locohost> so, when your system starts up, it stats to load zenoss, and hangs, and never finishes boot?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:15] <locohost> can you un chkconfig it?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:44] <locohost> b52, how about zenoss?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:45] <locohost>
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:15] <locohost> Im replacing an nms called "Castle Rock" with zenoss
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:23] <b52laptop> locohost, tried it , to master it i have to learn zope/twissted / zenoss internal , .... my life is short man
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:39] <locohost> castle rock is run under windows and is much easier to use, althoguh not as powerful
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:44] <locohost> and, not open source
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:46] <b52laptop> windows
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:49] <b52laptop> no thanks
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:56] <locohost> yeah, thats what i said
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:06] <b52laptop> open source one and simpler than zenoos if possible
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:13] <b52laptop> zenoss sorry
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:14] <b52laptop>
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:19] <locohost> are you looking for a nms, or for trending?
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:25] <locohost> you want a console to fire traps at?
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:32] <locohost> or, you want to trend throughput and stuff?>
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:32] <b52laptop> no web ui
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:51] <b52laptop> monitor systems / routeur / bandiwuch ....
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:55] <b52laptop> grrr
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:02] <b52laptop> i think i have to stick to zenoss
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:03] <b52laptop> fulgas, ?
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:04] <locohost> hp open view, solar winds orion, netcool
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:17] <b52laptop> hm checking those
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:27] <locohost> very expensive
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:31] <b52laptop> locohost, i forget to add : no j2ee and no php ?
[10-Mar-2008 22:11:15] <idea4gud> which zenoss version should i download considering the FACT I TRIED 2.1.2-0.el5.rpm and 2.1.71-0.el5.rpm
[10-Mar-2008 22:11:45] <idea4gud> and both of them had problem that VAR folder is not present in /opt/zenoss/
[10-Mar-2008 22:13:32] <locohost> mmmm i love care bears!
[10-Mar-2008 22:14:18] <locohost> remind me to lock my computer next time i smoke a cigarette
[10-Mar-2008 22:15:28] <locohost> idea, i use the rhel 4 version under centos 5
[10-Mar-2008 22:15:46] <locohost> your doing rpm -ivh, right, not Uvh
[10-Mar-2008 22:16:04] <idea4gud> zenossrhel4 u mean
[10-Mar-2008 22:16:06] <idea4gud> yes
[10-Mar-2008 22:16:39] <locohost> yeah, .el4.rpm
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:02] <idea4gud> also wat is this zenoss.2.1.2.x86_vmware
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:19] <idea4gud> does it zenoss built on VMware machine
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:37] <locohost> i think thats the virtual apliance
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:51] <locohost> appliance
[10-Mar-2008 22:19:08] <locohost> good for testing, or figuring out what its all about, not not good for produciton
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[10-Mar-2008 23:17:56] <idea4gud> locohost: it says i have conflict dependencies
[10-Mar-2008 23:18:11] <idea4gud> this isthe Instruction guide am using http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el4/
[10-Mar-2008 23:18:31] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL4 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[11-Mar-2008 01:36:10] <loco> all zope and no beer make locohost host go somethign something
[11-Mar-2008 01:57:47] <loco> is anyone using zenoss as a cmdb?
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[11-Mar-2008 05:00:09] <hanthana> Hi guys
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:35] <hanthana> I got following while starting zenoss on Fedora 8
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> # /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 100: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 100: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> Daemon: zenhub starting...
[11-Mar-2008 05:01:27] <hanthana> I use zenoss-2.1.72-0.fc8
[11-Mar-2008 05:01:47] <hanthana> downloaded compiled rpm
[11-Mar-2008 05:02:02] <hanthana> and installed mysql 5 too
[11-Mar-2008 05:02:27] <hanthana> appreciate your help
[11-Mar-2008 05:07:01] <locohost__> it did not install right, does that file exist?
[11-Mar-2008 05:07:07] <locohost__> is your bid dir empty?
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[11-Mar-2008 05:39:04] <hanthana> locohost, bid means?
[11-Mar-2008 05:39:11] <hanthana> bin ?
[11-Mar-2008 05:40:31] <hanthana> locohost__, /opt/zenoss/bin/
[11-Mar-2008 05:40:31] <hanthana> is there
[11-Mar-2008 05:41:54] <hanthana> zenoss exist
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[11-Mar-2008 08:52:40] <sajithr> I'm net to ZenOSS..what's the difference between "ZenManager" and "Manager" roles ?
[11-Mar-2008 11:10:45] <sajithr> can somebody explain me the difference between ZenManager and Manager roles?
[11-Mar-2008 11:56:55] <sajithr_> navin:
[11-Mar-2008 12:34:01] <pablo26> hi all, is there any way to set up dependecies on zenoss (automatic dependencies wont work since i have vpn tunnels)
[11-Mar-2008 12:34:21] <pablo26> yesterday i got 300 emails because a conection went down
[11-Mar-2008 12:38:18] <[Wiebel]> hmzm
[11-Mar-2008 12:38:22] <[Wiebel]> hi
[11-Mar-2008 12:38:49] <[Wiebel]> when makeing templates using COMMAND with SSh it runs /opt/zenoss/libexec <command> on the remote host
[11-Mar-2008 12:39:00] <[Wiebel]> *making
[11-Mar-2008 12:40:05] <pablo26> i think that can be configured on xproperties of the device
[11-Mar-2008 12:41:35] <[Wiebel]> what about a device class?
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:05] <[Wiebel]> ah
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:08] <[Wiebel]> indeed you are right
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:18] <pablo26> in that class go to zproperties and u will see that path
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:23] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:26] <[Wiebel]> tnx
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:32] <pablo26> yw
[11-Mar-2008 14:30:15] <[Wiebel]> gotta love the zenoss support guys
[11-Mar-2008 14:30:24] <[Wiebel]> great support
[11-Mar-2008 14:30:26] <[Wiebel]> so far
[11-Mar-2008 15:00:46] <pablo26> is there any way to set up dependecies on zenoss (automatic dependencies wont work since i have vpn tunnels)
[11-Mar-2008 15:24:57] <selfish> I would like to know why auto-disco keeps adding new networks that I already deleted to my network list
[11-Mar-2008 15:25:19] <selfish> Is there a way to turn off auto-disco completely? I already did it in zProperties.
[11-Mar-2008 15:26:37] <b52laptop> KageSenshi, evening there :d
[11-Mar-2008 15:29:21] <locohost> anyone know where that main zenoss logo image lives?
[11-Mar-2008 15:33:00] <selfish> nope
[11-Mar-2008 15:38:08] <selfish> time to dig through source
[11-Mar-2008 15:38:14] <locohost> woot!
[11-Mar-2008 15:58:47] <pablo26> selfish: u can lock that interfaces from discovery, they will keep getting performance data but wont discover new netowrks
[11-Mar-2008 15:59:14] <pablo26> choose the network in the device and choose lock and select both locks
[11-Mar-2008 16:08:26] <selfish> but is there no global auto-disco shutoff? I have a large network, i want to start small and monitor only what I tell it to.
[11-Mar-2008 16:08:40] <idea4gud> loco: u r here
[11-Mar-2008 16:08:56] <idea4gud> I am doin rpm -ivh zenoss-dep/
[11-Mar-2008 16:09:13] <idea4gud> it says conflicts with dependencies
[11-Mar-2008 16:11:49] <locohost> what dependencies?
[11-Mar-2008 16:12:23] <idea4gud> Mysql conflicts with Mysql present in Zenos dep similarly MySQL-server
[11-Mar-2008 16:12:36] <locohost> rpm -qa|grep -i mysql
[11-Mar-2008 16:13:59] <idea4gud> i get same package with 2 entries
[11-Mar-2008 16:14:09] <locohost> yeah, what packages?
[11-Mar-2008 16:14:32] <idea4gud> mysql-server-5.0.22-2.2.el5_1.1 libdbi-dbd-mysql-0.8.1a-1.2.2 MySQL-python-1.2.1-1 mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.12-2.2 perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0007-1.fc6 mysql-5.0.22-2.2.el5_1.1
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:18] <locohost> you got the packages you need, i think for some reason sometimes zenoss wants it to be called MYSQL-Server or something, you got the sql you need
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:25] <locohost> does it complain about anything other then sql?
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:31] <b52deb> hi
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:48] <locohost> your running on fedora?
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:57] <b52deb> i'm in the process of installing zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:02] <b52deb> and metting this error :
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:06] <b52deb> /usr/bin/python2.4 genpatchdeps.py >.patchdeps
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:06] <b52deb> /bin/sh: .patchdeps: Permission denied
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:06] <b52deb> make: *** No rule to make target `.patchdeps', needed by `default'. Stop.
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:17] <locohost> sudo?
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:39] <locohost> b52, are you using sudo?
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:54] <b52deb> locohost, nop "su" to switch to zenoss user
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:59] <idea4gud> new line
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:20] <locohost> your trying to install it as zenoss?
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:22] <idea4gud> loco: i am runnin Red EL
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:50] <idea4gud> centos also Dependecy conflict occur with mysql and mysql-server
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:54] <locohost> ahh, you have a fc6 perl-dbd installed, i suppose that will works, its all rhel
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:59] <b52deb> locohost, yeap i mean i'm not installing as root , but as the readme said , i'm installing under the use r " zenoss"
[11-Mar-2008 16:19:11] <idea4gud> was that msg to me loco: abt fc6 perl
[11-Mar-2008 16:19:37] <locohost> perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0007-1.fc
[11-Mar-2008 16:20:41] <locohost> thats strange, i installed zenoss as root, that does not make sence to me
[11-Mar-2008 16:20:54] <locohost> anyway, did you put zenoss in the sudoers?
[11-Mar-2008 16:21:27] <b52deb> locohost, i don't have sudo installed
[11-Mar-2008 16:21:34] <b52deb> should i install it ?
[11-Mar-2008 16:22:07] <b52deb> hm trying as root to see what will happen !
[11-Mar-2008 16:22:14] <locohost> what distro are you using?
[11-Mar-2008 16:22:49] <locohost> you installing from src, or rpm?
[11-Mar-2008 16:23:16] <selfish> I have a better question, are you trying to install this on a production machine?
[11-Mar-2008 16:23:56] <selfish> if no, then wipe the disks, install CentOS 5.1, and follow the zenoss install guide.
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:05] <b52deb> locohost, debian , i'm installing from source
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:05] <selfish> I had it working in about 30 minutes
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:08] <b52deb> selfish, lolllll :d
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:13] <b52deb> i have tried centos 4
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:14] <b52deb> before
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:20] <b52deb> yes it's working like a charm
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:32] <locohost> yuck, non redhad based distros
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:38] <locohost> hat*
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:39] <b52deb> selfish, no way i can move from my debian
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:49] <selfish> pfft, debian is stagnating
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:17] <b52deb> selfish, we call that , stable i love old stuff , that doesn't change it have a special charm :"D
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:18] <selfish> it's only a few years behind the development cycle, no mystery that you're having dependency problems
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:19] <idea4gud> locohost : Perl DB FC6 Deosnt complain
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:33] <idea4gud> only conflict occurs with mysql and mysql-server
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:47] <locohost> yeah, i didnt think that would cause a problem with zenoss, completly unrelated
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:47] <idea4gud> also when i do grep i get mysql 2 times
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:02] <selfish> b52deb: I'll take "working" over "charm" :-D
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:04] <locohost> so, i think you could probably go ahead and install the rpm with --no-deps
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:12] <locohost> and ignore that mysql error
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:17] <locohost> i think it will find mysql just fine
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:17] <b52deb> selfish, lol
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:41] <idea4gud> well i wa thinkin if i did no-deps then i mite face same problem like last time
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:53] <idea4gud> of not zope.conf
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:00] <idea4gud> also VAr folder not present
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:22] <locohost> did you do no-deps last time?
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:37] <locohost> i think if it were to cause a problem, it would cause a problem with mysql, and you will figure out if that is not working really quick
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:38] <idea4gud> for uninstallin i did
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:07] <idea4gud> k but on website they EL4 theywant to install zenoss dep
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:08] <locohost> idea? is this a vm?
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:11] <idea4gud> yes
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:18] <idea4gud> Centos runnin VM
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:26] <idea4gud> Vmwae console
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:47] <locohost> I had an idea the other night. how are your disks layed out? is it a san?
[11-Mar-2008 16:29:32] <idea4gud> no i am runnin a VM on network
[11-Mar-2008 16:29:58] <idea4gud> i guess my priviliges are limited to the home of User on linx network
[11-Mar-2008 16:30:18] <locohost> no idea what your saying
[11-Mar-2008 16:30:25] <locohost> its not a san, its on a network?
[11-Mar-2008 16:30:37] <idea4gud> i thinnk so
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:16] <locohost> do you know what kinda san, or what kinda server?
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:34] <locohost> there is a bug in vmware that can cause your fs to go readonly durring high io
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:40] <idea4gud> no idea
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:42] <locohost> on some sans
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:58] <idea4gud> i am just runnin VM from home account on linux user account
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:59] <locohost> so, you dont have root access to the serveR?
[11-Mar-2008 16:32:03] <idea4gud> noppes
[11-Mar-2008 16:33:53] <locohost> so, is there like a sysadmin that gives you the permissions you need?
[11-Mar-2008 16:34:01] <locohost> because you cant install stuff on a server that you cannot write to
[11-Mar-2008 16:34:43] <idea4gud> yeah there is sysadmin but he wil just provide user priviliges
[11-Mar-2008 16:34:56] <idea4gud> and i can play with my acount how ever i want
[11-Mar-2008 16:35:24] <locohost> /proc/scsi/mptspi
[11-Mar-2008 16:35:27] <locohost> does that folder exist?
[11-Mar-2008 16:35:32] <locohost> on the box?
[11-Mar-2008 16:36:05] <idea4gud> u knw yes
[11-Mar-2008 16:36:45] <idea4gud> on my VM i can d any thing rite so
[11-Mar-2008 16:36:53] <idea4gud> just guide me i wil do the same
[11-Mar-2008 16:37:38] <locohost> durring the install/troubleshooting process, did you ever run into the problem where your vm hung, and you could not do anyhting, or get any file system is readonly errors?
[11-Mar-2008 16:39:12] <idea4gud> nopes only thing tht occured was Daemon Zopectl was not runnin
[11-Mar-2008 16:39:20] <idea4gud> i mean it just hanged
[11-Mar-2008 16:39:43] <locohost> did you need to restart the system?
[11-Mar-2008 16:40:52] <idea4gud> i just restarted the VM
[11-Mar-2008 16:41:12] <locohost> if you use lsi logic adapters, there is a bug in vmware that can cuase the fs to go readonly durring hi io, the fix is to install mptscsi-rhel4gos-3.02.62.01-0vmw
[11-Mar-2008 16:41:31] <locohost> a reboot will temporarly resolve it, until io is high again.
[11-Mar-2008 16:41:50] <locohost> anyway, something to keep in mind, sounds like that is not your issue
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:22] <locohost> i stand by my suggestion of installing it with no-deps, i think sql will work
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:34] <idea4gud> k
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:35] <locohost> as long as it only says your missing sql. its just not looking for it in the right place
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:40] <locohost> i think it will find it in the instlal
[11-Mar-2008 16:43:13] <idea4gud> thnx wil trble u if ther is more trble
[11-Mar-2008 16:44:18] <idea4gud> loco:do i hav to install as zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 16:44:29] <idea4gud> bcz zenoss is not added still
[11-Mar-2008 16:48:37] <rdb> I want to graph the output from a Microsoft SQL server stored procedure in Zenoss. What would be the components in Zenoss I would use?
[11-Mar-2008 16:48:59] <rdb> would I create a performance template?
[11-Mar-2008 16:50:37] <rdb> I've done this in cacti but I'm just learning Zenoss...
[11-Mar-2008 16:51:16] <rdb> I think I'll use winexe to execute a vbscript that runs the stored procedure and returns the results
[11-Mar-2008 16:51:38] <rdb> what I'm missing are the zenoss pieces of the puzzle that bring it all together.
[11-Mar-2008 16:52:40] <rdb> cause winexe to be executed, on certain devices, and create an rrd and update it on x interval, etc.
[11-Mar-2008 16:55:01] <rdb> what are the things under the "OS" tab called?
[11-Mar-2008 16:55:02] <locohost> idea, i think if you try to install an rpm as a user, it will give fail becaues of permssions, i think you need to use root
[11-Mar-2008 16:59:11] <idea4gud> i did as --nodeps zenoss it just home directory already present
[11-Mar-2008 16:59:40] <idea4gud> again i dont havfolder under opt/zenoss/var
[11-Mar-2008 17:00:38] <locohost> /opt/zenoss/var ? or /usr/local/opt/zenoss/var?
[11-Mar-2008 17:01:37] <idea4gud> opt/zenoss/var
[11-Mar-2008 17:02:34] <locohost> u were doing the install as root?
[11-Mar-2008 17:03:36] <idea4gud> yes
[11-Mar-2008 17:07:50] <idea4gud> brb
[11-Mar-2008 17:10:30] <locohost> did you manually create the var folder? or touch the permissions on the zenoss foldeR?
[11-Mar-2008 17:26:14] <b52deb> anyone have meet this before http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13873 ?
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[11-Mar-2008 18:03:56] <idea4gud> loco u back
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[11-Mar-2008 20:00:41] <locohost> this room is much busier then the zeonoss room
[11-Mar-2008 20:18:56] <idea4gud> hi loco: comin to query for changing folder permission or creatin manually i haventdone either of them
[11-Mar-2008 20:19:15] <idea4gud> <locohost> did you manually create the var folder? or touch the permissions on the zenoss foldeR?
[11-Mar-2008 20:38:30] <locohost> i wanted to make sure you didnt mess up the permissions on them
[11-Mar-2008 20:38:44] <locohost> try to touch /opt/zenoss/var/test as zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 20:38:59] <locohost> maybe the zenoss perms are screwed or soemthing
[11-Mar-2008 21:01:10] <idea4gud> loco :try to touch /opt/zenoss/var/test as zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 21:28:43] <b52deb> any one could help me to browse perf of my routeur
[11-Mar-2008 21:28:47] <b52deb> nothing apppear
[11-Mar-2008 21:51:16] <b52deb> for example /Devices /Network /Router /Huawei HG550 /os /ppp_8_35_1 the graphs of this interface are empty
[11-Mar-2008 21:51:24] <b52deb> the routeur is an adsl routeur
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:01] <johns55> are u using snmp to monitor this router?
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:22] <b52deb> yeap in the zProperties
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:28] <b52deb> i change the zcommand
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:32] <b52deb> from ssh to snmp
[11-Mar-2008 21:54:45] <johns55> have u tried to do an snmpwalk against this router?
[11-Mar-2008 21:54:54] <b52deb> johns55, yeap working
[11-Mar-2008 21:55:10] <b52deb> i think i missed something in the zProperties !
[11-Mar-2008 21:55:59] <johns55> you've tried to remodel this device?
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:09] <b52deb> hm !
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:14] <b52deb> how to that ?
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <johns55> go to /Devices /Network /Router /Huawei HG550
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:35] <b52deb> ok
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:50] <johns55> then from the pull down menu select manage then model
[11-Mar-2008 22:00:45] <b52deb> johns55, http://pastebin.com/m669a16de the result seems normal
[11-Mar-2008 22:00:49] <b52deb> but stillno perf
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[11-Mar-2008 22:01:04] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:15] <b52deb> should i give the login and pass to the routeur
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:20] <b52deb> for monitoring true snmp
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:21] <b52deb> ?
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:30] <johns55> what?
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:40] <johns55> snmp is monitored using an snmp community key
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:40] <b52deb> johns55, forget :d
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:43] <johns55> not the pw to the router
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:48] <b52deb> ah ok
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:26] <johns55> there's probably something in your router that is not collecting that particular info
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:37] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:39] <b52deb> in snmp
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:40] <johns55> from the modeling it looks fine
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:58] <johns55> yes snmp in the router
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:58] <b52deb> zSnmpVer equal by default to 1
[11-Mar-2008 22:03:06] <b52deb> i tried with snmpwalk
[11-Mar-2008 22:03:11] <b52deb> with the param v2c
[11-Mar-2008 22:03:19] <b52deb> i'm changing it to see what hapening
[11-Mar-2008 22:04:55] <b52deb> hm another thing in the status bar, there is 0 status hm should be at less a couple of them !
[11-Mar-2008 22:04:56] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:08:44] <b52deb> i changed the snmpver to 2 but http://pastebin.com/m6428c52f
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[11-Mar-2008 22:08:59] <b52deb> when i select snmp walk command he do it with version 1
[11-Mar-2008 22:09:00] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:14:52] <locohost_> you can edit the snmpwalk command in the drop down menu manually
[11-Mar-2008 22:15:41] <locohost_> yeah
[11-Mar-2008 22:15:49] <locohost_> the down arrow, then administration
[11-Mar-2008 22:15:54] <locohost_> click on snmpwalk
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:02] <locohost_> snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp} system
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:16] <locohost_> change v1 to v2 or v2c
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:30] <b52deb> hm ok
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:40] <locohost_> i think where you changd it in preferences or where ever is for collection
[11-Mar-2008 22:17:36] <locohost_> ive made custom commands that do things like restart apache
[11-Mar-2008 22:17:37] <b52deb> nice !!
[11-Mar-2008 22:18:01] <b52deb> brb (eating quickly :d )
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[11-Mar-2008 22:37:22] <b52deb> locohost_, still there ?
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[12-Mar-2008 00:33:30] <loco> bah, all of a sudden zenhub wont stay running after i restarted zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 00:42:24] <loco> WARNING zenhub: removing listener
[12-Mar-2008 00:43:05] <kevet> anyone experienced repeated zenwin heartbeat failure on your setups? trying to find out what causes this. version 2.1.2
[12-Mar-2008 00:58:29] <loco> doesnt sound familiar kevet
[12-Mar-2008 00:58:54] <loco> anyone ever have zenhub not start after a restart, and inturn not be able to access the web if at all?
[12-Mar-2008 01:00:44] <loco> wtf, its always something, ill deal with it tomorrow.
[12-Mar-2008 01:00:52] * loco gets frustrated and goes to a bar
[12-Mar-2008 01:01:14] <kevet> weird. i'm trying to have my rpath appliance update now *crosses fingers*
[12-Mar-2008 01:01:24] <kevet> hoping a new version helps
[12-Mar-2008 04:40:21] <goobie> hi there
[12-Mar-2008 04:41:22] <goobie> hello
[12-Mar-2008 04:51:26] <goobie> hello is anyone there
[12-Mar-2008 04:51:27] <goobie> ?
[12-Mar-2008 04:51:37] <goobie> I have a question..
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[12-Mar-2008 05:42:38] <goobie> hello?
[12-Mar-2008 09:26:24] <sajithr> can somebody describe the difference between Manager and ZenManager roles?
[12-Mar-2008 10:07:36] <b52laptop> morning
[12-Mar-2008 10:09:31] <sajithr> b52laptop: can you pls describe the difference between Manager and ZenManager roles?
[12-Mar-2008 10:10:20] <b52laptop> sajithr, sorry bro , i don't know the difference . my self i'm stuck with printing the perf of a routeur interface :d
[12-Mar-2008 10:10:43] <sajithr> ;-)
[12-Mar-2008 10:11:02] <b52laptop> :d
[12-Mar-2008 10:11:02] <sajithr> no probs bro..
[12-Mar-2008 10:17:41] <b52deb> well anyone could give me a hand with my routeur no event appear , perf of interfaces don't appear , but snmp is working fine
[12-Mar-2008 10:29:46] <sajithr> what about collector plugins? is the SNMPWALK sucessfull?
[12-Mar-2008 10:32:55] <b52deb> sajithr, the snmpwalk is successful
[12-Mar-2008 10:35:05] <sajithr> bro.. check collector plugins..
[12-Mar-2008 10:35:27] <b52deb> hm
[12-Mar-2008 10:40:33] <b52deb> sajithr, the collecteur plugins give the option of monitoring for example routeur interface should basicly print zenoss.snmp.IpserviceMap . i think it's the baseic one , but the graphs are emtpy
[12-Mar-2008 10:41:53] <sajithr> i may take a while to draw the graph.. anyway what can you see? an empty graph or NO graph?
[12-Mar-2008 10:42:15] <b52deb> sajithr, No graph :d
[12-Mar-2008 10:42:39] <sajithr> is that a cisco router?
[12-Mar-2008 10:42:49] <b52deb> no a huawei one
[12-Mar-2008 10:43:19] <b52deb> /Devices /Network /Router /Huawei HG550
[12-Mar-2008 10:43:48] <b52deb> wait i'm gone take a screenshot of the interface that doesn't print give me a minute
[12-Mar-2008 10:50:06] <b52laptop> sajithr, first question is it normal to have no event list in the routeur : http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8554/zenoss1sj6.jpg
[12-Mar-2008 10:50:26] <b52laptop> sajithr, http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4421/zenoss2xw3.jpg my empty graph interface
[12-Mar-2008 11:19:41] <sajithr> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY notebook
[12-Mar-2008 11:42:53] <b52deb> hm i run a snmpwalk on the device and at the end i got : No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
[12-Mar-2008 13:34:28] <lacin> hi, I just installed ZenOSS, befor Zenoss was using MRTG, but we are searching Usefull monitorin program for WEB services monitoring, like Apache, FTP, SSH, Tomcat an qmail monitoring (All in One) solution
[12-Mar-2008 13:34:56] <lacin> any body has idea about this case? (Is Zenoss suitable for us?
[12-Mar-2008 13:35:22] <lacin> I want to know how many user Logged in, Uses FTP, How much bandwith each VHost uses and ...
[12-Mar-2008 14:48:52] <pinger> good morning
[12-Mar-2008 14:50:20] <pinger> quick question concerning loggin and zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 14:50:36] <pinger> i know you can setup syslog to forward to zenoss, but what about clamav logs?
[12-Mar-2008 14:50:55] <pinger> also, is there a way to check the windows event logs without installing an event log daemon?
[12-Mar-2008 14:51:04] <pinger> or will the WMI process check that?
[12-Mar-2008 16:22:14] <malbon> hi folks.
[12-Mar-2008 16:23:58] <malbon> I am having a problem with understanding how to configure ZenJMX, I want to use a source other than jmxrmi, how do I change this?
[12-Mar-2008 16:55:11] <purevol> hello
[12-Mar-2008 16:55:17] <purevol> anyone know anything about check_ping?
[12-Mar-2008 18:00:29] <loco> whats up guys?
[12-Mar-2008 18:04:36] <loco> so, after a restart zopectl daemon manager not running, i dont think i changed anything that would cause it not to start, i did rename a device..
[12-Mar-2008 18:09:01] <loco> phew, i scared myself
[12-Mar-2008 18:09:13] <zenoss_nub> lol
[12-Mar-2008 18:09:34] <jb> anyone know about creating new dashboard portlets?
[12-Mar-2008 18:11:17] <loco> had to drop $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec to get it to start
[12-Mar-2008 18:13:33] <loco> is there anyhting in zenoss that uses the phrase "Some Flavor of Linux" to describe os? or is that part of the code i added that is not working?
[12-Mar-2008 18:22:41] <zenoss_nub> is importing bulk devices into zenoss via the cli and REST command seem an intelligent option to creating xlm for all the devices i have in my spreadsheet?
[12-Mar-2008 18:27:55] <loco> nub: we used a bash loop to cycle through machine files and hit the api via wget to add 800+ devices to our zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 18:29:45] <zenoss_nub> nice thats kinda where i was headed - i have all the info in nagios cfg files but i done see anything easily translating them - so i thought it might be easier to just start with the spreadsheet anyways
[12-Mar-2008 18:30:40] <zenoss_nub> i am on hour 3 of my zenoss experience lol so i appreciate the response loco
[12-Mar-2008 18:32:34] <loco> cant you maybe awk the ip or host names out?
[12-Mar-2008 18:32:37] <loco> are all yoru hosts in dns?
[12-Mar-2008 18:34:16] <zenoss_nub> i thought about that too - but i only have a few hundred devices and i want to update some of the info anyways from the spreadsheet so i thought it would be best to start from there. i did think about using a script to rewrite the cfg's to xml but the twitching was too much for me
[12-Mar-2008 18:36:02] <loco> well, i dont remember existly how to do it, but there is a url you can hit to say, change the device os in the db, and one to change the location, etc so it is possible
[12-Mar-2008 18:36:11] <loco> what kind of info do you have in yoru sheet?
[12-Mar-2008 18:36:15] <loco> cmdb like stuff, i imagain
[12-Mar-2008 18:37:50] <zenoss_nub> i have ip/host/description/location/alert groups/dependencies/rack #/port#/ (can you tell i am/was a nagios user?
[12-Mar-2008 18:38:38] <loco> thats not so bad..i actually used to be a windows user.
[12-Mar-2008 18:38:43] <loco> bah, i cant beleive i told anyone that
[12-Mar-2008 18:38:50] <zenoss_nub> lol
[12-Mar-2008 18:39:47] <zenoss_nub> as i understand zenoss i need to setup my classes(events,devices,services,processes) then add my devices then associate them
[12-Mar-2008 18:39:51] <loco> i was actually tasked with integrating our existing mysql cmdb into zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 18:40:02] <zenoss_nub> oh cool'age
[12-Mar-2008 18:41:52] <loco> zenoss just didnt have enough fields, plus we like querieing sql when we need something, its fun!
[12-Mar-2008 18:42:16] <zenoss_nub> drop table ... oops
[12-Mar-2008 18:43:18] <loco> thats where the nightly cron'd dump comes in handy
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[12-Mar-2008 18:45:05] <zenoss_nub> i have dug those out a few times myself - late night sql'ing and forgetting the 'where' part of the delete from table command - you only do that once before you learn heh
[12-Mar-2008 19:03:37] <loco> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
[12-Mar-2008 19:03:45] <loco> what do you guys think of my modified hardware tab?
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[12-Mar-2008 19:06:38] <jp10558> When you install a zenpack, do you need to run it as the Zenoss user?
[12-Mar-2008 19:07:27] <jp10558> nevermind, I missed it in the FAQ
[12-Mar-2008 19:10:18] <zenoss_nub> nice work loco
[12-Mar-2008 19:27:03] <loco> thanks _nub.
[12-Mar-2008 19:40:44] <btsteve> Hey has any one used zenoss to graph a query from a MSSQL database?
[12-Mar-2008 20:01:07] <selfish> what are you trying to graph?
[12-Mar-2008 20:01:14] <selfish> performance? record set?
[12-Mar-2008 20:01:21] <selfish> you need to be more specific
[12-Mar-2008 20:04:10] <btsteve> We have a query that on the database that returned 3 values. we would like to have a graph of those values through out the day. they woul only increase as the day progresses
[12-Mar-2008 20:28:13] <loco> ive got the results of a ruby script i wrote to trend, and a few other custom things, so its definatly possible
[12-Mar-2008 20:28:30] <loco> might be better off doing that in cacti, that have some cool templates
[12-Mar-2008 20:29:09] <loco> good sql stats are on my to do list, but i have not gotten to that yet
[12-Mar-2008 20:30:44] <loco> http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=11010&highlight=mysql
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[12-Mar-2008 20:32:59] <loco> if you just want the 3 values, it would be pretty easy to scrpt it in snmp and get it though the ucd extentions
[12-Mar-2008 20:34:56] <zenoss_nub> thanks for your help today loco - i will talk to you tomorrow
[12-Mar-2008 20:35:34] <loco> no problem
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:24] <loco> here is an example of one way you could do it steve.
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:27] <loco> exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.56 value /usr/local/bin/ruby /usr/local/bin/grabstat.rb
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:29] <loco> in snmpd.conf
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:43] <loco> where grabstat.rb is a ruby script that returns an interger
[12-Mar-2008 20:37:18] <loco> then you can just graph .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.56 as a custom snmp thingie
[12-Mar-2008 20:37:45] <loco> or exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.57 vmusage /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/vmwatch.sh
[12-Mar-2008 20:39:20] <loco> ...2021.54+ is is the oid space to use for exec in snmpd.conf
[12-Mar-2008 20:52:29] <loco> but then anyone who can snmpwalk the device can run taht script, so be careful, and dont do anything like that if you have snmp open to the public
[12-Mar-2008 22:49:53] <idea4gud> hi guyz i am tryin to run zenoss in VM player
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:06] <idea4gud> but i get this error
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:09] <idea4gud> Type: ConflictError
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:09] <idea4gud> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x0f4f, class Products.ZenModel.DataRoot.DataRoot, serial this txn started with 0x037464834ed03f00 2008-03-12 16:35:18.471905, serial currently committed 0x037465bb335f9477 2008-03-12 21:47:12.040631)
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:15] <idea4gud> any suggestions
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[13-Mar-2008 03:03:53] <greed> Hello, Can zenoss do XMPP messaging ?
[13-Mar-2008 03:55:25] <sajithr> hi.. Can we set ZenOSS to NOT to detect particular host in a given period of time?
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[13-Mar-2008 13:08:09] <locohost> <sajithr>: your looking for a maintance window i think
[13-Mar-2008 13:37:17] <locohost> what do you guys think of the custom fields i added to my hardware tab?
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[13-Mar-2008 14:01:27] <aurax> i have problem with zenoss:
[13-Mar-2008 14:01:33] <aurax> i am getting : <DataRoot at broken>
[13-Mar-2008 14:01:44] <aurax> while trying to access it using a web browser
[13-Mar-2008 14:27:57] <Funky_> cls
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:01] <idea4gud> can i monitor systems and services using zenoss virtual appliance
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:13] <idea4gud> like i mean my network is really small
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:39] <idea4gud> 5 servers and 10 clients and 10 services
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:48] <idea4gud> most of them web services
[13-Mar-2008 15:19:33] <locohost> maybe as an interim solution while you get a real zenoss server working
[13-Mar-2008 15:58:29] <idea4gud> i have my virtual appliance on my personal laptop runnin on wireless network
[13-Mar-2008 15:59:00] <idea4gud> and when i enter my the ip address of machine which i want to monitor
[13-Mar-2008 15:59:04] <idea4gud> it doesn resp
[13-Mar-2008 15:59:23] <idea4gud> in other words i search using ip adress it returns NILL
[13-Mar-2008 16:46:14] <idea4gud> i do auto discovery i get no device discovered
[13-Mar-2008 16:46:26] <idea4gud> but i am able to ping from to that ip address
[13-Mar-2008 17:11:36] <malbon> hi, any zenjmx guru's here?
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[13-Mar-2008 18:35:44] <Bulwinkle> I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.24 from factory and now it won't let me long in with any account
[13-Mar-2008 18:38:37] <malbon> Bulwinkle: are you zenjmx friendly/knowledgeable?
[13-Mar-2008 18:39:00] <Bulwinkle> malbon: I don't even know what the hell that is
[13-Mar-2008 18:39:38] <malbon> the jmx connector for zenoss?
[13-Mar-2008 18:59:51] <Bulwinkle> any ideas why I may be able to log in via ssh but not in to the console?
[13-Mar-2008 19:33:57] <idea4gud> which distro of linux works seemlessly with zenoss
[13-Mar-2008 19:34:29] <idea4gud> i hav been workin on centos but i am stuck @ some point with VAR folder not present in opt/var/zenoss
[13-Mar-2008 19:34:57] <idea4gud> also i am newbie to linux
[13-Mar-2008 19:46:46] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: opt/zenoss/var
[13-Mar-2008 20:00:43] <idea4gud> bulwink: i tried 2 installations of zenoss2.1,2
[13-Mar-2008 20:00:48] <idea4gud> and 2.1.7
[13-Mar-2008 20:01:14] <idea4gud> when i do rpm the folder /opt/zenoss/var is not created
[13-Mar-2008 20:19:33] <locohost> bulwinkle, you upgrade your kernel, and now you cant get into shell session?
[13-Mar-2008 20:19:39] <locohost> or, you cant login go zenoss?
[13-Mar-2008 20:20:03] <Bulwinkle> locohost: I can get in via ssh but not console
[13-Mar-2008 20:20:40] <locohost> you can get in throuhg ssh, but you cant get into the box via keyboard, is that what you are saying?
[13-Mar-2008 20:22:26] <Bulwinkle> locohost: yes
[13-Mar-2008 20:24:40] <locohost> weird, your logging in as root?
[13-Mar-2008 20:24:50] <locohost> reset your pass and try from console?
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:00] <Bulwinkle> i put in root as the username and hit enter and it doesn't even ask me for my passwd
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:21] <locohost> does it say its wrong or anything?
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:32] <locohost> same thing with a non-root user?
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:49] <Bulwinkle> ues
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:53] <Bulwinkle> -u+y
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:10] <locohost> and it doesnt ask you for a passowrd, just says your password is wrong
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:30] <locohost> Permission denied, please try again.
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:31] <locohost> ?
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:43] <Bulwinkle> nothing... just the MOTD and login:
[13-Mar-2008 20:27:27] <locohost> strange, maybe try booting into single user mode and resetting the root pass
[13-Mar-2008 20:27:47] <Bulwinkle> locohost: eh... not to worried about it now
[13-Mar-2008 20:32:38] <locohost> good, because neither am I
[13-Mar-2008 20:32:39] <locohost>
[13-Mar-2008 20:32:44] <locohost> this is centos ?
[13-Mar-2008 20:33:44] <locohost> how come no one commented on my custom hardware tab?
[13-Mar-2008 20:35:10] <locohost> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
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[13-Mar-2008 20:37:40] <locohost> idea, why dont you put a clean centos 5 vm on your laptop and see if you can get it to install with a var there
[13-Mar-2008 20:38:15] <locohost> i could ssh into your test vm for you if you and see if i have the same problem, heh
[13-Mar-2008 20:56:22] <idea4gud> hi thnx loco for offer
[13-Mar-2008 20:56:52] <idea4gud> k now tht i decided to hav zenoss as my tool so i hav decided to install on actual machine
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[14-Mar-2008 02:43:08] <JDIBBY> Anyone in here ever written any zenpacks for Netscreen, Extreme, or Alvarion?
[14-Mar-2008 02:43:22] <JDIBBY> I'm just getting started, but didn't want to reinvent the wheel
[14-Mar-2008 02:52:45] <btsteve> what makes zenoss better than nagios?
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[14-Mar-2008 13:52:24] <duncan_> hey fellow Zenossians... I'm having problems with zenperfsnmp kicking the bucket. With 700 nodes (~66000 OIDS being polled) the server is maxing out on IOWAIT and the load will climb to about 4 then the daemon will die. I have tried rebuilding the box to use a RAID0 with two 10k RPM drives but they still cannot keep up.. is there a way to throttle the speed Zenoss tries to poll the servers?
[14-Mar-2008 13:53:08] <duncan_> IOWAIT fluctuates between 40% and 70% while polling the nodes
[14-Mar-2008 13:59:32] <duncan_> when I check the progress in the zenperfsnmp log file, it gets through polling 300 nodes in about 20 seconds (talk about a FLOOD) and gets so backed up that the daemon apparently just dies without giving any reasons
[14-Mar-2008 14:00:55] <duncan_> is this a known problem with larger networks and Zenoss? will I need to be splitting the load for polling snmp?
[14-Mar-2008 14:02:33] <monrad> how large i larger networks?
[14-Mar-2008 14:04:12] <locohost> your sure your hd is not on the way out>
[14-Mar-2008 14:05:39] <locohost> my iowait is at 0.60 on my prod zenoss server, with about 500 devices in it, have not finished addeing just everything yet
[14-Mar-2008 14:06:49] <duncan_> 700 nodes, polling 66k OIDs - the hard drives should be fine.. I had the same problem with 500 nodes using RAID1, so I rebuilt the box for more performance, and as we have now added more nodes we have overwhelmed the system yet again
[14-Mar-2008 14:08:08] <duncan_> I noticed that with the faster drive setup, that rather than having a lower IOWAIT, the nodes just get polled even faster (aparently as fast as possible).. so I'm still overloading the IO subsystem
[14-Mar-2008 14:11:50] <locohost> maybe there is a threading option somewhere in the setting that you could turn down....
[14-Mar-2008 14:12:26] <locohost> not sure about that, i was looking through all the confs the other day looking for something like that with no love
[14-Mar-2008 14:13:05] <locohost> it just seems like..if it can do 300 in 20 seconds, it should be able to do 800 in a minute without pegging io
[14-Mar-2008 14:13:15] <locohost> or 800 in 5 minutes
[14-Mar-2008 14:13:33] <locohost> you are polling once every 5m, right? not more frequent then that?
[14-Mar-2008 15:16:57] <klinstifen> morning all
[14-Mar-2008 15:17:22] <klinstifen> anyone know of a way to rename the interface adapter from the card's manufacturer name to say, eth0
[14-Mar-2008 15:18:22] <willwh> klinstifen, you mean a *nix interface?
[14-Mar-2008 15:18:29] <willwh> your default NIC is usually eth0
[14-Mar-2008 15:18:36] <willwh> do ifconfig at the cli
[14-Mar-2008 15:19:47] <klinstifen> willwh: i mean in zenoss...for windows boxen it has grabbed the manufacture name and there are spaces and slashes involved so i just want it to be eth0 or eth1
[14-Mar-2008 15:20:16] <willwh> not sure about windows
[14-Mar-2008 15:20:51] <klinstifen> i want the renaming to be done within zenoss
[14-Mar-2008 15:21:17] <klinstifen> so the zenoss gui shows a different name and stores thus stores it differently in $ZENHOME
[14-Mar-2008 15:37:13] <btsteve> Can Zenoss send notifications when things go down?
[14-Mar-2008 15:39:28] <monrad> duncan_: i am polling 1138 devices, 38K OIDs, with an dual 3.2 ghz p4 xeon with 4 gb of ram and the rrd files on a SAN
[14-Mar-2008 15:40:03] <monrad> the 38K is because we dont poll interfaces on our access switches
[14-Mar-2008 15:40:16] <monrad> because it does not scale up to that
[14-Mar-2008 15:49:42] <locohost> yeah, you can rename ifs
[14-Mar-2008 15:53:57] <locohost> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/<systemname>/interfaces/manage
[14-Mar-2008 15:54:49] <locohost> klistifen, that link is for you, check out that url, where localhost is your server, and <systemname> is the device you want to change the if name on
[14-Mar-2008 16:19:10] <klinstifen> locohost: i tried that. it made an alias, didn't change the name
[14-Mar-2008 16:20:44] <klinstifen> and this is for a Win box
[14-Mar-2008 16:21:15] <klinstifen> btsteve: yes it can
[14-Mar-2008 17:21:17] <btsteve> how do i setup notifications
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[14-Mar-2008 18:41:21] <locohost> k, check the box for that if and select rename, i dont think that could not work
[14-Mar-2008 18:45:52] <locohost> hmm, maybe your right
[14-Mar-2008 18:46:38] <locohost> steve, you mean like, page to a phone, not console alertS?
[14-Mar-2008 19:07:55] <btsteve> Yes E-mail to phone
[14-Mar-2008 19:10:23] <locohost> i think its under preferences and then alerting rules
[14-Mar-2008 19:36:45] <johns55> anyone having problemings not being able to scroll through the event logs?
[14-Mar-2008 20:32:22] <btsteve> Ok i tried the alerts and it did not send a message and a zenaction issue popped up.
[14-Mar-2008 20:36:08] <locohost> you put an emial addy in>
[14-Mar-2008 20:36:14] <btsteve> yep
[14-Mar-2008 23:31:12] <johns55> ur server doesnt have sendmail active
[14-Mar-2008 23:31:17] <johns55> or sent to recieve from localhost
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[17-Mar-2008 03:29:50] <Pikoro> anyone alive/awake?
[17-Mar-2008 03:30:57] <Pikoro> ok, well I'll just toss this out there and wait
[17-Mar-2008 03:32:15] <Pikoro> I have a bunch of mikrotik routers and would like to be able to track via snmp some of the items in it's custom MIB. I can't seem to find any docs on scanning a device against a MIB or assigning a MIB to a device or group. Any links to any documents out there would be appreciated
[17-Mar-2008 03:32:30] <Pikoro> I already have the MIB imported to zenoss. Thanks in advance
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[17-Mar-2008 11:14:32] <nemo_> that nick identify stuff is whack
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[17-Mar-2008 11:30:05] <akesomm> Hi! I'm testing Zenoss, and cannot get any network nor devices listed in the GUI. Should I add some network stuff manually? Maybe I missed something in the manual?
[17-Mar-2008 11:32:53] <akesomm> zendisc says: error performing net discovery on network 192.168.0.0 not found in dmd
[17-Mar-2008 11:37:24] <akesomm> in some forum messages it was said that " add a subnet in the /Networks section of the GUI... but I cannot see how to do this when there isn't any networks discovered /listed at all...(the subnet is most likely requiring that a network is seen in the first place).
[17-Mar-2008 11:38:11] <akesomm> I'm totally locked with this now... if somebody have some ideas, please let me know.
[17-Mar-2008 11:41:37] <fuoff> keep reading , you need discovery working ...
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:02] <akesomm> sure... now I at least got some servers with snmp added manually.... but still auto-discovery is dead :-(
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:07] <fuoff> akesomm, if your guessing your subnet /24 is a safe bet
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:21] <fuoff> snmpwalk them from a win / unix box first
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:28] <fuoff> make sure snmop is really working .
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:32] <fuoff> snmp*
[17-Mar-2008 12:00:31] <akesomm> I snmpwalked not the whoel subnet, but the loaclhost where the zenoss resides and at least it gave a lot of output.... This is an evaluation set up running under vmware...maybe that causes some problems with network discovery?
[17-Mar-2008 12:23:07] <fuoff> akesomm, shouldnt do, depends on your network i guess
[17-Mar-2008 12:23:23] <fuoff> so try modelling the localhost
[17-Mar-2008 12:27:21] <jp10558> Hey, anyone using the MySQL ZenPack?
[17-Mar-2008 12:35:15] <jp10558> I can't seem to find any zMySqlRootPassword in zProperties of devices I've bound the MySQL template to
[17-Mar-2008 12:35:23] <jp10558> where is this hidden?
[17-Mar-2008 12:35:29] <jp10558> or how do I get it to show up?
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[17-Mar-2008 13:10:22] <jp10558> no one uses MySQL ZenPack?
[17-Mar-2008 13:10:30] <nemonl> i didnt
[17-Mar-2008 13:51:50] <Blinny> Install from source on Ubuntu. So far I've managed to map a device (Linux localhost - all it found were the network interfaces), and I'm getting event notification of traps. I'd like to wipe out my 2.1.2-0 installation and start from scratch with recently released 2.1.3. Is there an uninstall script? Or do I just blow away /usr/local/zenoss, mysqldb events and startup scripts?
[17-Mar-2008 13:53:43] <locohost> gaybuntu
[17-Mar-2008 13:54:39] <Blinny> That's helpful.
[17-Mar-2008 13:57:42] <locohost> never installed it from src. im thinking what you say will probably work, but i cant say for sure
[17-Mar-2008 13:58:20] <Blinny> Thank you.
[17-Mar-2008 13:59:56] <Blinny> I use Ubuntu because I have a lot of diskless terminals, and Ubuntu has, by far, the best LTSP integration. I'm looking to monitor the RAID arrays and performance metrics of two LTSP Dell PowerEdge servers. I work at a non-profit foster care agency and there's no way we could run Citrix.
[17-Mar-2008 14:03:54] <locohost> yeah, im just messin, a lot of people like ubuntu
[17-Mar-2008 14:07:36] <jp10558> Do you specifically need this to run on Ubuntu? Can you use one CENTOS5.1 server? Zenoss is much easier to install on CENTOS5.1
[17-Mar-2008 14:09:29] <Blinny> CentOS's XServers are very, very buggy with regards to running diskless machines. Recent development efforts have focused on closing memory leaks, and not acting as if every XServer had a huge swap to play with.
[17-Mar-2008 14:10:09] <Blinny> So, yes, I do. I also can't justify changing my production environment to suit my production monitoring requirements.
[17-Mar-2008 14:18:42] <Blinny> How do I get information on the 'Hardware' and 'Software' tabs when viewing a device? They've always been empty and I'm wondering if I have something wrong with my Net-SNMP.
[17-Mar-2008 14:20:17] <Blinny> And also - is this still true? It comes from a March2007 post: "At the moment, MIBs uploaded into Zenoss are only used for traps, not for device parsing. "
[17-Mar-2008 14:29:07] <locohost> you dont even see the memory info on the hwtab?
[17-Mar-2008 14:29:17] <locohost> both tabs are completly blank!
[17-Mar-2008 14:29:20] <locohost> ??
[17-Mar-2008 14:30:31] <locohost> btw, we have over about 300 centos boxes here that dont have disks in them
[17-Mar-2008 14:31:19] <Blinny> Ah. I needed to map it to /Servers/Linux for it to run the proper plugins.
[17-Mar-2008 14:31:38] <locohost> ahh, yeah
[17-Mar-2008 14:31:54] <locohost> i made my own hardware tab that links info out of my sql db
[17-Mar-2008 14:32:27] <Blinny> Many of the details are blank. How can I use the information provided in my hardware vendor's .MIB to populate this information? I've already do the zenmib run .MIB command
[17-Mar-2008 14:32:43] <locohost> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
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[17-Mar-2008 14:37:26] <[Wiebel]> Hey
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:32] <locohost> yo
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:37] <[Wiebel]> how can I find out where zenoss learned a network?
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:48] <[Wiebel]> I see a network popping up in my networks list without any machines in it
[17-Mar-2008 14:38:30] <locohost> hmm, i think it learns networks through the route info it polls off your comm gear
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:00] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:07] <[Wiebel]> but I have loads of comm gear
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:38] <[Wiebel]> So I would like to find out on exaclty what device
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:41] <locohost> well, im not sure i know the exact answer to your question, but, have you been here?
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:41] <locohost> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Networks/manage
[17-Mar-2008 14:40:49] <locohost> you could maybe find what oid it uses to get the routes, not sure what one it uses off the top of my head, and loop an snmpwalk through command line
[17-Mar-2008 14:40:52] <locohost> and grep for that route
[17-Mar-2008 14:41:10] <locohost> or, maybe its in the logs somehwere
[17-Mar-2008 14:41:43] <[Wiebel]> hmm
[17-Mar-2008 14:41:46] <[Wiebel]> that manage url is handy
[17-Mar-2008 14:42:18] <locohost> yeah, if you just go to http://localhost:8080/manage, you can see the whole tree, and navigate to where you want to
[17-Mar-2008 14:42:34] <[Wiebel]> nice
[17-Mar-2008 14:42:46] <[Wiebel]> how did you find that out
[17-Mar-2008 14:43:33] <locohost> reading about zope
[17-Mar-2008 14:43:36] <[Wiebel]>
[17-Mar-2008 14:46:38] <[Wiebel]> *pang*
[17-Mar-2008 14:46:39] <[Wiebel]> ...
[17-Mar-2008 14:46:40] <[Wiebel]>
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:00] <locohost> is that the sound of you figuring something out?
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:01] <jp10558> Anyone use the MySQL ZenPack?
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:15] <locohost> i use mysql methods and dtml
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:16] <[Wiebel]> locohost: nah, just granting KillMeNow his wishes
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:26] <[Wiebel]> locohost: when I goto localhost:8080/manage it want's a password
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:45] <locohost> it will only let you in with the admin pass, i think
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:52] <locohost> admin, zenoss by default
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:54] <[Wiebel]> ah
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:58] <[Wiebel]> I know
[17-Mar-2008 14:51:07] <[Wiebel]> zenoss tech dudes changed that
[17-Mar-2008 14:51:08] <[Wiebel]>
[17-Mar-2008 14:52:59] <Blinny> What would cause an 'Unknown' value for used bytes in filesystems, memory, load average, and cpu % ?
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:09] <nemonl> ImportError: failed importing class IpV6ServiceMap from module zenoss.snmp.IpV6ServiceMap
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:24] <nemonl> while trying to model a GE site pro ups
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:38] <locohost> are you using includeAllDisks in your snmpd.conf?
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:50] <nemonl> Blinny, struggling with unknown on some of my devices ..
[17-Mar-2008 14:54:03] <nemonl> transformations seem to be the way
[17-Mar-2008 14:54:38] <locohost> could i take a look at you snmpd.conf? are you restricting it to certain oids, or is .1.3 wide open?
[17-Mar-2008 14:55:00] <nemonl> me or blinny?
[17-Mar-2008 14:55:11] <nemonl> sry its blinney ;p
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:10] <locohost> well, if your both having problems with disk stuff coming back unknown
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:34] <locohost> i think the IncludeAllDisks declaration in snmpd.conf does not play well with the host resource mib
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:47] <Blinny> locohost: http://pastebin.com/d8f7b2b6
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:58] <nemonl> loco: in my case they have no disks
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:11] <locohost> i think you want to add
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:13] <locohost> disk /
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:16] <locohost> disk /var
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:20] <locohost> or whatever your mount points are
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:23] <locohost> and restart snmpd
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:31] <Blinny> Just that line? disk /
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:58] <locohost> yeah, disk, then mount point
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:07] <locohost> you could also do disk / 90
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:19] <locohost> and it would watch / and send traps if it hit 90%
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:34] <Blinny> Gotchya. Lemme test. Thank you.
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:38] <locohost> you can do all that on the zenoss side though too, dont need to do it with traps
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:50] <locohost> it will probably take a few minutes for zenoss to update, but i think that will work
[17-Mar-2008 14:59:11] <Blinny> Right on. Is there a snmpd.conf that gives all that stuff?
[17-Mar-2008 14:59:56] <Blinny> Or should I just man snmpd.conf (;
[17-Mar-2008 15:00:25] <locohost> snmpd.conf can be kind of a pain, there is a lot to it. not sure what you mean, is there a conf that will give you all that
[17-Mar-2008 15:00:27] <nemonl> http://pastebin.com/m6543ca8c
[17-Mar-2008 15:00:40] <locohost> some of your systems might have different mount points, right, so you would want to specifiy different disks
[17-Mar-2008 15:01:20] <Blinny> Right on. So, one configures snmpd.conf to show all the stuff you want shown, and then you use zenoss web interface to configure traps ?
[17-Mar-2008 15:02:55] <locohost> not sure if i follow you. There are 2 ways to do things in snmp. trap based and polling based. Trap based means the client watches its self, and sends a trap to the server when it find a problem
[17-Mar-2008 15:03:18] <locohost> poll based, the server will check an oid every x minutes, and report issues. you can do both, or either or, its up to you
[17-Mar-2008 15:03:39] <locohost> you might be getting duplicate alerts though, one from a trap, and one from your nms
[17-Mar-2008 15:04:10] <locohost> for centeralization, its nice to control it all at the nms, and not have to have different snmpd.confs for all your boxes
[17-Mar-2008 15:04:51] <Blinny> That makes sense. zenoss == nms correct?
[17-Mar-2008 15:05:10] <locohost> yeah, network management system, any kinda poller or trap receiver with like a console that operators can watch
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[17-Mar-2008 15:05:40] <locohost> nemonl, i have no idea, sorry, its only like my third week using zenoss. been using snmp for a while though
[17-Mar-2008 15:06:04] <Blinny> So how then would I poll disk usages without editing snmpd.conf on each monitored box?
[17-Mar-2008 15:06:14] <locohost> i think you can do "`python /opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/Plugins.py` as zenoss to get more debug info, not sure if it will help you though
[17-Mar-2008 15:06:17] <nemonl> looks like a bug to me, sadly
[17-Mar-2008 15:07:23] <locohost> yeah, i think you need have that info in there to get disk usage out of the host resources mib...i think you could get it out of the ucd mib if you really wanted to, but it would probably be easier to edit the confs
[17-Mar-2008 15:07:31] <locohost> how many systrems do you have? do they all have the same mount points?
[17-Mar-2008 15:07:51] <locohost> i was actually going to work on some kinda localization script for snmpd.conf, but have not got around to it yet
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> [zenoss@monitor04 ~]$ python /opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/Plugins.py
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> Traceback (most recent call last):
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/Plugins.py", line 14, in ?
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> from Products.ZenUtils.Utils import importClass
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> ImportError: No module named ZenUtils.Utils
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:32] <nemonl> why didnt someone write this in php ;p
[17-Mar-2008 15:09:00] <Blinny> I'll only have 3 linux systems polled, so it's no big deal to propegate snmpd.conf to those boxes. I just want to do it correctly. Your help has already allowed me to go much further than I'd been able to on my own in the last few days.
[17-Mar-2008 15:10:37] <locohost> can you see the disks now?
[17-Mar-2008 15:10:53] * locohost runs out for a smoke, be back in a min
[17-Mar-2008 15:14:30] <Blinny> I can see the disk information for hosts !=localhost
[17-Mar-2008 15:15:33] <Blinny> ...the host I can see the disk information for does not have "disk /" or any such disk line in its snmpd.conf. This is weird.
[17-Mar-2008 15:17:38] <Blinny> Woah. Now the graphs in 'perf' tab are being populated for the host != localhost. Nice.
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:03] <locohost> i wonder if local hosts gets its disk info differently
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:08] <nemonl> damn thats why my graphs dont work right
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:25] <nemonl> i am seriously worried about the fact were adopting zenoss in 2 weeks
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:32] <locohost> i dont know. but, maybe rather then walking itself, it gets them through script or something
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:36] <nemonl> zenoss core seems pretty buggy to me
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:55] <Blinny> Perhaps.
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:58] <nemonl> most devices dont model without errors
[17-Mar-2008 15:19:07] <nemonl> what good is that really for business
[17-Mar-2008 15:19:28] <nemonl> i think its a very interesting idea, i even like the classes / inheritance, but ...
[17-Mar-2008 15:19:36] <Blinny> locohost: So, I'd only need to put the 'disk' lines in the snmpd.conf of the nms machine, and suddenly everything works elsewhere.
[17-Mar-2008 15:20:32] <locohost> did you not put it everywhere else, or it just started to show up when you did it to localhost
[17-Mar-2008 15:20:43] <locohost> your sure it didnt just take like 5-10 minute to start populating
[17-Mar-2008 15:20:56] <locohost> also, you need to do an /etc/init.d/snmpd restart to reload the conf
[17-Mar-2008 15:23:32] <Blinny> locohost: I'm sure - I only have 'disk /' on my NMS (let's call it localhost) -- Now, disk usage, CPU, load averages information is available from another Linux box (which has no 'disk' line in it). Also, I can see disk usages from a WinXP machine that has an SNMP agent on it.
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:05] <Blinny> Just to be sure I'll restart all my snmpd processes on localhost and other Linux box.
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:06] <locohost> you a centos user?
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:09] <Blinny> No.
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:59] <locohost> maybe the needing to specify disks in the conf is something specific to centos, not 100% sure, thats pretty much the only distro i use
[17-Mar-2008 15:26:29] <Blinny> Okay. I'll keep fiddling. Thank you.
[17-Mar-2008 15:29:37] <Blinny> I have many more 'Component Type' entries in the 'Status' tab on the host that is working than localhost
[17-Mar-2008 15:39:09] <idea4gud> hi loco u r around here
[17-Mar-2008 15:39:36] <idea4gud> i am tryin to install from scratch
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:10] <locohost> hi ya
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:24] <idea4gud> havin centos on a VM shall i just fol the guide thts given website
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:34] <idea4gud> CENTOS 5
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:49] <idea4gud> also i plan to start installation on production server
[17-Mar-2008 15:41:07] <idea4gud> so they is there any particular hardware requirement for zenoss
[17-Mar-2008 15:41:21] <idea4gud> bcz the machine they gave me is pentium 3
[17-Mar-2008 15:41:25] <idea4gud>
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:01] <locohost> well, my home zenoss box is a Compaq dl380 dual pc 900 with 1.25 gigs of ram
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:15] <locohost> that runs great polling like 3 physical boxes and 8 ish vms
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:23] <locohost> and 2 peices of comm gear, lol
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:56] <locohost> let me guess, you got a netfinity 4000r?
[17-Mar-2008 15:48:12] <idea4gud> u mean router?
[17-Mar-2008 15:48:59] <idea4gud> sorry
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:15] <locohost> now, i was just making a random guess at what kinda server it was, never mind
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:19] <locohost> not really a point
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:32] <locohost> how many nodes and how much ram, idea?
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:38] <idea4gud> just a normal CPU
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:53] <idea4gud> with pentium 3 and they want me to use ass host for zenoss
[17-Mar-2008 15:50:09] <locohost> what is an ass host?
[17-Mar-2008 15:50:12] <idea4gud> nodes wil b some thing around 50 with 10 + servers
[17-Mar-2008 15:50:22] <idea4gud> and 10+ services mostly web based
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:00] <locohost> ah, as the host, lol
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:02] <idea4gud> They want this P3 machine to b used as host for zenoss
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:10] <idea4gud>
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:13] <locohost> um, i think it will probably be okay, how many mhz?
[17-Mar-2008 15:52:00] <locohost> my dual p3 900 is sitting at .04 load average with .93 iowait
[17-Mar-2008 15:53:26] <Blinny> locohost: Apparently, simply waiting for the values to be populated was the key. Now my localhost is showing disk usage, and performance graphs are working also.
[17-Mar-2008 15:54:38] <locohost> cool
[17-Mar-2008 15:54:49] <locohost> another tip, is you can look at your rrd files manually
[17-Mar-2008 15:54:57] <locohost> with rrdtool dump <path to rrd file>
[17-Mar-2008 15:56:16] <Blinny> Good tip. Thank you again.
[17-Mar-2008 16:19:46] <idea4gud> hi loco i am runnin zenoss player on my laptop
[17-Mar-2008 16:19:58] <idea4gud> and my laptop has SNMP enabled
[17-Mar-2008 16:20:22] <idea4gud> so why doesnt it discover the device when i ask it to do so
[17-Mar-2008 16:25:28] <nemonl> idea4gud, make sure you can snmpwalk your device before your try to troubleshoot doing it in zenoss
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[17-Mar-2008 17:06:08] <locohost> could you walk it from the zenoss box, idea?
[17-Mar-2008 17:06:43] * locohost punches zope and python in hte neck
[17-Mar-2008 17:26:52] <idea4gud> am i doing correctly the snmp syntax:
[17-Mar-2008 17:27:25] <idea4gud> snmpwalk v1 -c communityString 172.25.2.1 172.25.3.197
[17-Mar-2008 17:27:40] <idea4gud> it says Failed to build ASN.1 representation
[17-Mar-2008 17:28:18] <idea4gud> when i remove community string it says 172.25.3.197 doesnt resp time out
[17-Mar-2008 17:31:21] <Blinny> 'communityString' should be your community's string. IE, public
[17-Mar-2008 17:32:04] <Blinny> and snmpwalk takes the IP and then the OID for which you're walking. 172.25.3.197 looks like a second IP, not an OID.
[17-Mar-2008 17:32:31] <locohost> why are there 2 ips in your snmp walk
[17-Mar-2008 17:32:47] <locohost> replace 172.25.3.193 with .1.3
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:07] <locohost> 172.25.2.1 is the host you want to walk
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:32] <locohost> isnt it snmpwalk -v 1
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:42] <Blinny> Ah. Yeah. -v1
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:54] <locohost> i think you need a space too, maybe not
[17-Mar-2008 17:34:33] <Blinny> Mine does not.
[17-Mar-2008 17:44:59] <idea4gud> so wat does : .1.3 object ID?
[17-Mar-2008 17:54:47] <locohost> that tells it to walk everything under .1.3. which should be everything
[17-Mar-2008 18:11:21] <Blinny> So I have three subnets in different locations. How do I tell the zenoss network map that subnets are physically located at a location?
[17-Mar-2008 19:48:31] <locohost> you tried setting device locations for objects in those subnets?
[17-Mar-2008 19:48:42] <locohost> ahhh, you want it to just know
[17-Mar-2008 20:06:31] <Blinny> locohost: Yeah, I have devices mapped to locations. It's really just the network map that this affects.
[17-Mar-2008 20:09:22] <locohost> under manage, there is a location object under each network, i dont see how to edit it though
[17-Mar-2008 20:10:52] <Blinny> *Nod* My clouds don't lead to the devices behind those clouds. I have turned up the number of hops.
[17-Mar-2008 20:12:14] <locohost> stupid question, you are polling your core routes, right?
[17-Mar-2008 20:12:33] <locohost> so, it knows how to get between networks
[17-Mar-2008 20:12:56] <locohost> routers*
[17-Mar-2008 20:14:31] <Blinny> locohost: I am, sort of.
[17-Mar-2008 20:14:52] <Blinny> locohost: I have my routers set up as devices and can look at the interfaces/networks of the routers.
[17-Mar-2008 20:17:13] <Blinny> I guess the eye candy isn't that important. A second visual representation would be nice though.
[17-Mar-2008 20:17:18] <Blinny> Cheers locohost. Thanks for the help today.
[17-Mar-2008 20:20:30] <locohost> np
[17-Mar-2008 20:37:08] <Bl00dyR4v3n> hello
[17-Mar-2008 21:09:43] <`m3_> any got an idea where transformations are logged?
[17-Mar-2008 21:09:54] <`m3_> anyone*
[17-Mar-2008 21:28:25] <idea4gud> i am able to do snmpwalk
[17-Mar-2008 21:28:46] <idea4gud> but as far the is this enuf for me to discover the Windows devices
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[18-Mar-2008 07:42:34] <nemonl> morning
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[18-Mar-2008 10:25:25] <nemonl> pls quiet ppl ;o trying to work here ;p
[18-Mar-2008 10:25:44] <DarkMats> soz! :-/
[18-Mar-2008 10:26:43] <nemonl> DarkMats, ever transformed an event ( in zenoss ) ?
[18-Mar-2008 10:27:25] <DarkMats> Yes, once with much trouble... Python is not my best language =)
[18-Mar-2008 10:27:41] <nemonl> same same , trying to get into it tho
[18-Mar-2008 10:27:56] <nemonl> i got it all pretty much working , sans transforms
[18-Mar-2008 10:28:32] <DarkMats> I found a good guide somewhere in the forums that got mine working
[18-Mar-2008 10:28:33] <nemonl> were having a zenoss engineer visit in a few weeks, just trying to get ahead now
[18-Mar-2008 10:29:14] <nemonl> hmmz which thread, i thought id read them all ...
[18-Mar-2008 10:29:33] <DarkMats> w8, i'll check if i've got it bookmarked...
[18-Mar-2008 10:30:27] <DarkMats> Doesn't look like it... sorry =/
[18-Mar-2008 10:30:35] <nemonl> de nada ;p
[18-Mar-2008 11:01:07] <[Wiebel]> Hey
[18-Mar-2008 11:01:28] <[Wiebel]> Where can I find info on howto import cacti collector script into zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:22] <nemonl> google i guess, never heard of a script to do it
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:30] <[Wiebel]> hmm
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:31] <__adytum-bot__> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/theatre/comedy/story/0,,1987059,00.html
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:37] <[Wiebel]> I could not find it
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:47] <nemonl> if your handy in bash or whatever try zendisc command
[18-Mar-2008 12:18:55] <nemonl> [zenoss@monitor04 zenoss]$ which zendisc
[18-Mar-2008 12:18:56] <nemonl> /opt/zenoss/bin/zendisc
[18-Mar-2008 12:19:14] <nemonl> for discovery btw
[18-Mar-2008 12:19:35] <[Wiebel]> hmmz?
[18-Mar-2008 12:19:45] <[Wiebel]> what has that to do with cacti
[18-Mar-2008 12:22:42] <[Wiebel]> anyone ever tried to get smokeping alike graphs in zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 12:57:27] <nemonl> wiebel, the discovery tool can work on your cacti configs, if you are any good with scripting that is
[18-Mar-2008 12:58:39] <[Wiebel]> well
[18-Mar-2008 12:58:50] <[Wiebel]> the thing is cacti supports data sources with multiple oid's
[18-Mar-2008 12:58:57] <[Wiebel]> I would like to see that in zenoss
[18-Mar-2008 13:03:12] <nemonl> great, good luck with it
[18-Mar-2008 13:07:27] <Joe159> g'day
[18-Mar-2008 13:08:21] <Joe159> can anyone help... I've upgraded to 2.1.3 and zensyslog wont start
[18-Mar-2008 13:09:24] <[Wiebel]> with what error?
[18-Mar-2008 13:09:59] <Joe159> zensocet must be run as root
[18-Mar-2008 13:10:01] <Joe159> socket
[18-Mar-2008 13:11:42] <Joe159> and the following... ERROR ZEO.zrpc.Connection(C): (localhost:8100) Error caught in asyncore
[18-Mar-2008 13:12:49] <[Wiebel]> chmod +s /opt/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[18-Mar-2008 13:12:54] <[Wiebel]> chwon root /opt/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[18-Mar-2008 13:14:30] <Joe159> not usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket?
[18-Mar-2008 13:14:44] <Joe159> im running it on ubuntu 7.10
[18-Mar-2008 13:17:08] <locohost> some people install in /usr/local, others in /opt. i think he means your zenoss dir
[18-Mar-2008 13:18:15] <Joe159> k, thanks
[18-Mar-2008 13:22:48] <[Wiebel]> well
[18-Mar-2008 13:22:59] <[Wiebel]> zenoss support tolled me that you should install it in /opt
[18-Mar-2008 13:23:06] <[Wiebel]> otherwise you could get unforseen issues
[18-Mar-2008 13:23:10] <[Wiebel]> told
[18-Mar-2008 13:55:29] <nemonl> what is the syntax of the rule statement ( events )
[18-Mar-2008 13:55:42] <nemonl> rule, regex, example, transform etc
[18-Mar-2008 14:01:01] <[Wiebel]> what do you mean ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:02:28] <nemonl> Under the classes menu, events
[18-Mar-2008 14:02:49] <nemonl> for each mapping to a class you have a set of rules
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:02] <nemonl> rule, regex, example, transform, explanation, resolution
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:15] <nemonl> i am trying to find out what the rule part should look like
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:21] <[Wiebel]> Ow sorry, never did that
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:45] <nemonl> yeh i didnt bump into anyone whos using it atm ;0
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:59] <nemonl> but it looks like handiest part of event mgmt to me
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:06] <nemonl> if it will work anyway
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:34] <[Wiebel]>
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:42] <[Wiebel]> i'm waiting for 2.1.3 enterprise
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:50] <nemonl> arnt we all ;p
[18-Mar-2008 14:05:04] <monrad> well i am waiting for 2.2
[18-Mar-2008 14:05:09] <monrad> core
[18-Mar-2008 14:05:37] <nemonl> id love to have all these pissey small issues sorted before we talk to zenoss
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:01] <[Wiebel]> mwa
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:04] <nemonl> stupid waste having zenoss guys explain stuff from the core product really
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:07] <[Wiebel]> if you have support they act quickly
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:10] <[Wiebel]> and correctly
[18-Mar-2008 14:07:37] <monrad> yes but the per managed resources pricing is a bit expensive for us
[18-Mar-2008 14:08:25] <monrad> we could hire 2-3 people more instead
[18-Mar-2008 14:08:32] <monrad> for gold
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:00] <[Wiebel]> mwa
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:04] <nemonl> glad i dont take my salary from you
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:08] <[Wiebel]> we got a quote for half the price on the website
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:13] <[Wiebel]> (silver)
[18-Mar-2008 14:10:31] <[Wiebel]> how many devices do you have then?
[18-Mar-2008 14:10:37] <monrad> around 1400 now
[18-Mar-2008 14:10:48] <monrad> i think we are getting over 2000 before long
[18-Mar-2008 14:11:25] <[Wiebel]> and with that. the dollar is low enough en euro's
[18-Mar-2008 14:11:37] <[Wiebel]> I guess they will give you a good quote for that many devices
[18-Mar-2008 14:11:40] <[Wiebel]> we only have 180
[18-Mar-2008 14:12:57] <MoreDakka> Hallo. Anyone around today?
[18-Mar-2008 14:13:33] <MoreDakka> Sorry, let me rephrase. Is anyone around today that can help me with WMI setup in zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 14:13:38] <monrad> [Wiebel]: yeah i think so too, but right now we are happy with core, but it would be nice to see rrdtool scale better
[18-Mar-2008 14:13:55] <[Wiebel]> how is that?
[18-Mar-2008 14:14:18] <monrad> [Wiebel]: rrdtool?
[18-Mar-2008 14:16:58] <[Wiebel]> rrddtool within zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 14:17:34] <[Wiebel]> or what do you mean
[18-Mar-2008 14:18:46] <monrad> we "only" have 4 gb of ram in the box and when the rrd files cant be in the diskcache anymore performance plummets
[18-Mar-2008 14:19:22] <monrad> like from 15-20 secs for ~50K OIDs and 300-600 secs for ~100K OIDs
[18-Mar-2008 14:19:41] <[Wiebel]> raid0+1 ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:26] <monrad> the rrd files are on a HP EVA SAN
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:33] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:37] <monrad> pretty fast
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:38] <[Wiebel]> ISCSI ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:43] <monrad> no FC
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:51] <[Wiebel]> hmmz ok
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:54] <[Wiebel]> direct to the box
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:58] <[Wiebel]> ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:59] <monrad> yep
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:16] <[Wiebel]> I thing locak sata raid0+1 is faster
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:19] <[Wiebel]> *think
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:38] <monrad> but rrdtool 1.3 should help with it moving to memory mapped IO
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:45] <[Wiebel]> ah ok
[18-Mar-2008 14:22:59] <monrad> its because it has to have the entier rrd file in memory to have decent performance with the old implementation
[18-Mar-2008 14:23:45] <monrad> and right now we have ~2.3 gb rrd files
[18-Mar-2008 14:24:14] <[Wiebel]> I see
[18-Mar-2008 14:24:36] <[Wiebel]> wel with ~200 boxes I don't see any issues here yet
[18-Mar-2008 14:24:54] <monrad> i think its because we mostly have switch
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:13] <[Wiebel]> ~700MB rrd files here
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:14] <monrad> and with the data we are collecting now we are around 500 kb per interface
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:29] <[Wiebel]> You could spread the load though
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:36] <[Wiebel]> 2 or more zenoss servers instead of 1
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:37] <monrad> så ~24 mb per 48 port switch
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:50] <monrad> so ...
[18-Mar-2008 14:26:03] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[18-Mar-2008 14:26:42] <monrad> but right now we just dont collect interface stats on our access switches
[18-Mar-2008 14:26:54] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[18-Mar-2008 14:27:06] <[Wiebel]> Well
[18-Mar-2008 14:27:21] <[Wiebel]> I woulud setup 2 (or more zenoss) one for networking one for servers
[18-Mar-2008 14:43:03] <locohost> then your operator has to monitor 2 consoles
[18-Mar-2008 14:43:27] <locohost> or is there some kind of clustering?
[18-Mar-2008 14:43:55] <monrad> locohost: you can have "polling" nodes
[18-Mar-2008 14:44:07] <locohost> ahh, remote pollers, i got ya
[18-Mar-2008 14:44:12] <MoreDakka> Anyone receive this error http://pastebin.ca/947455
[18-Mar-2008 14:44:19] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 947455 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Mar-2008 14:46:49] <monrad> [Wiebel]: http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool-trac/wiki/TuningRRD <- is some good reading on the subject
[18-Mar-2008 14:46:53] <locohost> today is my birthday, and im at work
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:03] <[Wiebel]> cool
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:03] <[Wiebel]> thanks
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:05] <MoreDakka> Happ B-Day....Now get back to WORK
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: TuningRRD - RRDtool Trac - Trac (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:07] <MoreDakka> ;-)
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:08] <MoreDakka> haha
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:14] <MoreDakka> jk
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:16] <[Wiebel]> locohost: congrats
[18-Mar-2008 15:06:00] <locohost> thks
[18-Mar-2008 15:13:17] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming (since there haven't been any answers) that no one knows about the problem that I'm having with WMI? blegh, wmi is being more of a pain then I want it to be
[18-Mar-2008 15:22:11] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[18-Mar-2008 15:22:27] <[Wiebel]> zenoss autodiscover finds devices which are allready in zenoss but renamed
[18-Mar-2008 15:22:31] <[Wiebel]> seems to be a bug
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:41] <locohost> hmmm, same ip, or another if?
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:46] <[Wiebel]> same ip
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:53] <[Wiebel]> I ranemd the devices en zenoss
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:57] <[Wiebel]> did a scan
[18-Mar-2008 15:51:09] <[Wiebel]> and it poped up again onder discoverd devices with the same ip
[18-Mar-2008 15:51:18] <locohost> wierd
[18-Mar-2008 15:51:24] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[18-Mar-2008 15:52:34] <locohost> its not listed in a host file different from dns or something funky is it? have no idea, just trying to throw something out there
[18-Mar-2008 16:48:19] <jb> any tips on how to make devices appear in the network map?
[18-Mar-2008 16:48:21] <jb> nothing is showing tehre..
[18-Mar-2008 17:10:55] <F0rg1vn> sometimes you have to specify the subnet desired. I have used the following syntax 10.1.0.0/16
[18-Mar-2008 17:12:22] <F0rg1vn> let's say you have a subnet with only servers on it and they all have an ip address in the 192.168.1.x/24 subnet... You would just "discover" 192.168.1.0/24
[18-Mar-2008 17:12:31] <F0rg1vn> does that make sense <jb>?
[18-Mar-2008 17:14:17] <F0rg1vn> <jb> sorry I'm getting my products confused. You don;t need the slash notation "/24" just the network 192.168.1.0
[18-Mar-2008 17:17:55] <F0rg1vn> If it takes a long time to enumerate then there could be other issues. I have this paticular issue on one of our Zen nodes.
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:38] <jb> well i have several subnets
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:40] <jb> i would like to show them all
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:48] <jb> so I tried to create a new network with a subnet that included all of my subnets
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:50] <jb> but that didnt work
[18-Mar-2008 17:27:37] <F0rg1vn> if you look at the status at the bottom of the broswer is it still retreiving data?
[18-Mar-2008 17:29:52] <jb> hrm, sometimes yeah
[18-Mar-2008 17:29:58] <jb> i actually have about 40 devices that arent even showing up
[18-Mar-2008 17:30:04] <jb> because they are not defined in a "Network" i dont think
[18-Mar-2008 17:30:06] <jb> and im not sure why
[18-Mar-2008 17:33:53] <jb> f0rg1vn: what happens if you type 0.0.0.0 into the selected device box?
[18-Mar-2008 17:33:57] <jb> does it load all of your devices?
[18-Mar-2008 17:53:34] <sajithr> no
[18-Mar-2008 17:56:11] <monrad> hey bzed, hows the packaging going?
[18-Mar-2008 18:02:42] <idea4gud> i am not able to connect to IP address of Appliance Til yesterday it was wrkin f9
[18-Mar-2008 18:03:00] <idea4gud> can anybody tel me the possible reason I can ping my Appliace from my Laptpop
[18-Mar-2008 18:18:35] <[Wiebel]> I realy have to say. Zenoss support is superb!
[18-Mar-2008 18:54:52] <bzed> monrad: stuck.
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:09] <bzed> monrad: you could update it and use zope 2.8 with it
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:15] <bzed> but that was not an option for us
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:22] <bzed> as zope 2.8 is out of debian now
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:27] <`m3_> sup monrad, i missed your issue
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:31] <bzed> we're waiting for the developers to move to something more uptodate
[18-Mar-2008 18:56:19] <`m3_> i guess it might have been kinder to shutdown zenoss before rpm -Uvh to 2.1.3 ?
[18-Mar-2008 18:56:24] <`m3_> taking along time ...
[18-Mar-2008 19:12:35] <johns55> m3, are you on cpanel channel in efnet also?
[18-Mar-2008 19:14:20] <`m3_> yes ;p
[18-Mar-2008 19:21:49] <johns55> ah ok, your hostnames are different
[18-Mar-2008 19:21:51] <johns55> but same nick
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:02] <jp10558> I'm trying to use the MySQL zenpack
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:13] <jp10558> and I've gotten it installed and configured, but now I'm getting:
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:14] <jp10558> Code: 1 - Msg: General error
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:27] <jp10558> as a info event on the polls, and no graphs
[18-Mar-2008 19:33:10] <npmccallum> So when using LDAP for authentication, after the first time the user signs in he/she appears in /zport/dmd/ZenUsers. Anyone know where the part of the code is that adds the user? I can't find it...
[18-Mar-2008 19:33:18] <`m3_> jp10558, seems most of the mysql issues are to do with mysql password
[18-Mar-2008 19:34:02] <`m3_> npmccallum, if it happens on login, mut get triggered there ?
[18-Mar-2008 19:34:44] <npmccallum> `m3_: sure, but where is that code?
[18-Mar-2008 20:01:28] <idea4gud> i am not able to connect to IP address of Appliance Til yesterday it was wrkin f9
[18-Mar-2008 20:01:41] <idea4gud> can anybody tel me the possible reason I can ping my Appliace from my Laptpop
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:35] <monrad> bzed: hmm to bad :/
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:40] <monrad> too even
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:47] <bzed> yeah
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:52] <bzed> it's annoying
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:59] <jb> ide: its obvioulsy a networking problems..
[18-Mar-2008 20:57:26] <`m3_> 2.1.3 seems to handle class mapping better ;p
[18-Mar-2008 21:29:31] <ke4qqq> hey guys I am having a real brain fart moment - I created a Zenpack - added some of my performance monitors for a machine to that zenpack. Now, despite having done this scores of times before, I can't remember or find how to apply this zenpack to another machine.
[18-Mar-2008 21:32:18] <johns55> man id be willing to upgrade to 2.1.3 but its kinda risky
[18-Mar-2008 21:39:52] <muqeet> hi guyz i am plannin to install zenoss on machine which is p3 with 512 of ram
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:04] <muqeet> so which OS would u suggest
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:15] <muqeet> i mean for zenoss to work seamlessly
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:27] <`m3_> ke4qqq, $HOME/bin/zenpack --install ?
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:50] <ke4qqq> mugeet: CentOS
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:56] <`m3_> muqeet, centos, rhel , fedora in that order
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:56] <ke4qqq> muqeet, CentOS
[18-Mar-2008 21:41:21] <ke4qqq> `m3_, the zenpack is already installed.....I just have forgotten how to tell it to apply to other machines
[18-Mar-2008 21:41:25] <ke4qqq> and start collecting data
[18-Mar-2008 21:45:18] <`m3_> ke4qqq, not sure , i added the zenpacks , modelled a new host and all the new stuff was in there automatically
[18-Mar-2008 21:46:27] <`m3_> try navigating to the host and modeling it again
[18-Mar-2008 21:46:52] <`m3_> or feed a list to zendisc maybe ...
[18-Mar-2008 21:51:03] <muqeet> `m3: so over centos works seamlesly with zenoss or its just that my machine has limited capabiltiy behind ur reasoning'
[18-Mar-2008 21:52:42] <`m3_> centos is the best ( imho ) for my needs
[18-Mar-2008 21:53:39] <`m3_> rhel is a good choice too
[18-Mar-2008 21:53:51] <`m3_> its the same thing really tho, which is why i take centos
[18-Mar-2008 21:54:52] <`m3_> i am running zenoss in a vps with 384mb ram, centos 4.5
[18-Mar-2008 21:54:58] <muqeet> k
[18-Mar-2008 21:55:00] <`m3_> its doing fine
[18-Mar-2008 21:58:07] <`m3_> 2.1.3 is a real improvement, that rocks
[18-Mar-2008 22:36:44] <johns55> m3, do u think its worth it to upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3?
[18-Mar-2008 22:37:01] <johns55> i mean, i dont have any problems besides my event logs not being able to scroll down
[18-Mar-2008 22:37:13] <johns55> release notes dont show that being fixed
[18-Mar-2008 22:53:55] <`m3_> johns55, 2.1.3 seems to have solved my main issue which was mapping events , i dont have any scroll problems
[18-Mar-2008 22:54:21] <`m3_> using FF here
[18-Mar-2008 22:58:54] <johns55> yeah ive tried FF and IE, cant scroll
[18-Mar-2008 22:59:24] <`m3_> really huge list ?
[18-Mar-2008 22:59:42] <`m3_> i noticed with 1000's of events the list can get "choppy"
[18-Mar-2008 23:00:31] <johns55> i cant even get a scroll bar on the side, it doesnt exist, when i roll down the scroll wheel on my mouse, it will scroll down and scroll back up to the top automatically
[18-Mar-2008 23:02:07] <`m3_> check pm
[18-Mar-2008 23:15:59] <johns55> pm?
[18-Mar-2008 23:16:39] <johns55> i've actually wrote about this on the boards a few times and havent gotten a reply
[18-Mar-2008 23:16:46] <johns55> a few people also have the same prob
[18-Mar-2008 23:19:22] <`m3_> prviate message, i sent you a url to my zenoss 2.1.3 install
[18-Mar-2008 23:19:30] <`m3_> private*
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:35] <johns55> hrm for some reason i didnt get it you probably didnt register your nick on freenode
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:48] <`m3_> doh
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:53] <`m3_> <`m3_> http://zenoss.iamgeek.com:8080/zport/dmd/Dashboard
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:54] <`m3_> <`m3_> guest / guest
[18-Mar-2008 23:21:04] <`m3_> wtheck , its the guest ;p
[18-Mar-2008 23:21:36] <johns55> incorrect pw or username
[18-Mar-2008 23:21:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Login (at zenoss.iamgeek.com:8080)
[18-Mar-2008 23:22:10] <`m3_> guest / guest123 ?
[18-Mar-2008 23:22:31] <johns55> ok there it goes..
[18-Mar-2008 23:23:09] <johns55> hrm your device list is not over a full page
[18-Mar-2008 23:23:15] <johns55> lets see what else..
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:02] <johns55> hrm do you know if you have a device list or events list that is long?
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:05] <`m3_> just qdjust the size of the window until its small enough to scroll, drag n drog style
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:23] <`m3_> drop*
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:34] <johns55> ahhh ok it might be my browser!
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:38] <johns55> cuz im getting the same thing
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:50] <johns55> no scroll bar
[18-Mar-2008 23:25:10] <johns55> let me try IE7
[18-Mar-2008 23:25:12] <`m3_> i think it must be , strange tho
[18-Mar-2008 23:26:20] <johns55> Wow, on IE7 it looks really jacked up
[18-Mar-2008 23:26:21] <johns55> lol
[18-Mar-2008 23:28:01] <johns55> http://www.pastethat.com/Pjdtn
[18-Mar-2008 23:28:08] <__adytum-bot__> Title: PasteThat (at www.pastethat.com)
[18-Mar-2008 23:28:55] <johns55> ok pw doesnt work anymore
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:27] <johns55> check it out
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:28] <johns55> http://www.pastethat.com/F5d9w
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: PasteThat (at www.pastethat.com)
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:40] <johns55> no scrollbar and theres more entries
[18-Mar-2008 23:36:49] <`m3_> must be a browser issue then
[18-Mar-2008 23:37:19] <johns55> what versuion firefox do u have?
[18-Mar-2008 23:38:37] <`m3_> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12
[18-Mar-2008 23:40:47] <johns55> hrm i have 2.0.0.11
[18-Mar-2008 23:41:34] <johns55> let me see if an update will solve the prob
[18-Mar-2008 23:43:27] <johns55> no that didnt do the trick
[18-Mar-2008 23:43:31] <johns55> strange...
[18-Mar-2008 23:43:56] <johns55> maybe a setting within my browser?
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[19-Mar-2008 08:11:17] <hanthana> guys
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:31] <hanthana> I tried to add / as a file system
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:37] <hanthana> got an error
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:43] <hanthana> Type: ZeroDivisionError
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:43] <hanthana> Value: float division
[19-Mar-2008 08:12:00] <hanthana> what should I do to resolve this??
[19-Mar-2008 08:20:24] <nemonl> morning
[19-Mar-2008 12:27:12] <nemonl> if evt.device.is=gramezza: evt.component=MISS ; evt.priority=0 ; evt.action=drop
[19-Mar-2008 12:27:36] <nemonl> whats the correct syntax of that transform, cant find any documentation for this
[19-Mar-2008 14:12:24] <MoreDakka_> Hey is there anyone awake in here yet?
[19-Mar-2008 14:12:43] <MoreDakka> Guess I could use my other chat window ;-)
[19-Mar-2008 14:13:05] <DarkMats> Benn awake for 9 hours now, so yes =)
[19-Mar-2008 14:13:34] <MoreDakka> ha, well here is a question then to try to keep you awake: How can I test WMI monitoring in zenoss?
[19-Mar-2008 14:14:11] <MoreDakka> I have tried to kill a service (imapi cd burning com service) and I had that monitored in Zenoss but it didn't error or anything.
[19-Mar-2008 14:15:12] <DarkMats> Sorry, don't know that. I don't monitor anything with WMI =/
[19-Mar-2008 14:15:41] <MoreDakka> I don't either but a client needs a piece of software monitored and WMI is the best way to do it... :-/
[19-Mar-2008 14:16:39] <DarkMats> Ah...
[19-Mar-2008 14:34:54] <MoreDakka> Lets see if the forums will answer that question.
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:00] <DarkMats> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-test-wmi-connectivity/
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:15] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - How To Test WMI Connectivity - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:34] <DarkMats> Don't know if that helps, but it's a try
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:54] <nemonl> handy bot
[19-Mar-2008 14:44:41] <MoreDakka> Thanks DarkMats, however I know that I can connect to the machine using WMI but it's the alerting in Zenoss that I'm trying to get going.
[19-Mar-2008 15:15:35] <rdb> Zenoss appliance doesn't seem to use SMP. Is there a way to enable this, or is it unnecessary?
[19-Mar-2008 15:20:23] <MoreDakka> Do you mean snmp?
[19-Mar-2008 15:55:17] <rdb> no, smp, miltiple CPUs
[19-Mar-2008 15:55:25] <rdb> s/mil/mul
[19-Mar-2008 16:30:14] <MoreDakka> Bah, because Zenoss is not alerting on winservices going down my boss is thinking about scrapping zenoss and going with Orion even though it would cost us $13k + to get it.
[19-Mar-2008 16:32:03] <MoreDakka> It's weird, zenwin doesn't even notice that I turned the service off. All there is in the zenwin log file is "INFO zen.zenwin: Async config notification" and of course reboot logs but other then that nothing else.
[19-Mar-2008 16:35:39] <MoreDakka> You would think that if a service is being monitored that if it is set to disabled it would have a red dot and not a green dot.
[19-Mar-2008 16:40:36] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[19-Mar-2008 17:13:21] <johns55> gray dot?
[19-Mar-2008 17:13:30] <MoreDakka> Nope, green dot
[19-Mar-2008 17:14:14] <MoreDakka> even after killing the service
[19-Mar-2008 17:14:30] <johns55> ok u might have a firewall issue
[19-Mar-2008 17:14:46] <MoreDakka> Fresh install of Win2k3 server, no firewall.
[19-Mar-2008 17:15:49] <johns55> u want to disable monitoring on a ipservice and it is showing green?
[19-Mar-2008 17:16:26] <MoreDakka> This on a WinService (example imapi cd burning service)
[19-Mar-2008 17:16:36] <MoreDakka> ipservice's work no problem.
[19-Mar-2008 17:17:00] <MoreDakka> Zenoss pulls the WinServices through WMI no problem but doesn't report when they are down.
[19-Mar-2008 17:56:40] <MoreDakka> Anyone have any ideas why WMI hates me?
[19-Mar-2008 19:22:57] <`m3_> evening
[19-Mar-2008 19:23:22] <`m3_> what causes an event not to have a component ? ( makes mapping impossible ? )
[19-Mar-2008 19:51:19] <`m3_> i cant be the only person with that issue, forums mention it but no real info, just problems
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:02] <jp10558> I'm trying to use the MySQL zenpack
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:07] <jp10558> and I've gotten it installed and configured, but now I'm getting:
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:12] <jp10558> Code: 1 - Msg: General error
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:24] <jp10558> looking closer, I can see in the zenhub log
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:25] <jp10558> :
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/services/CommandConfig.py", line 39, in getDataSourceCommands
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> cmdinfo = dev.getDataSourceCommands()
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 650, in getDataSourceCommands
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> cmds, threshs = (super(Device, self).getDataSourceCommands())
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:29] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/RRDView.py", line 344, in getDataSourceCommands
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:31] <jp10558> result.append( (getattr(ds, 'usessh', False),
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:33] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/MySqlMonitor/datasources/MySqlMonitorDataSource.py", line 100, in getCommand
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:35] <jp10558> cmd = BasicDataSource.BasicDataSource.getCommand(self, context, cmd)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:37] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/RRDDataSource.py", line 196, in getCommand
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:39] <jp10558> res = compiled(getEngine().getContext(environ))
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:41] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 224, in __call__
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:43] <jp10558> v = var(econtext)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:45] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 185, in __call__
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:47] <jp10558> return self._eval(econtext)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:49] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 173, in _eval
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:51] <jp10558> ob = self._subexprs[-1](econtext)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:53] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 127, in _eval
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:55] <jp10558> ob = restrictedTraverse(ob, path, getSecurityManager())
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:57] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 320, in restrictedTraverse
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:59] <jp10558> o = object[name]
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:01] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py", line 713, in __getitem__
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:03] <jp10558> raise KeyError, key
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:05] <jp10558> KeyError: 'zMySqlRootPassword'
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:07] <jp10558> I've tested the password in the command line, and it works for interactive login
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:09] <jp10558> one weird issue is the 'zMySqlRootPassword'
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:11] <jp10558> There isn't a variable named that
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:14] <jp10558> we only see cMySqlRootPassword
[19-Mar-2008 20:01:58] <`m3_> user root or zenoss jp10558
[19-Mar-2008 20:02:05] <`m3_> think it should be for zenoss
[19-Mar-2008 20:02:43] <jp10558> user should be zenoss?
[19-Mar-2008 20:02:54] <`m3_> jah
[19-Mar-2008 20:06:24] <Joelio> hi guys, is it possible to extend zenoss to get custom reporting out of it? We've got a number of customers that we'd like to create availability, performance etc.. reports for
[19-Mar-2008 20:07:20] <`m3_> well it logs to a mysql db, so yeh
[19-Mar-2008 20:07:29] <`m3_> if you can use mysql, your in luck
[19-Mar-2008 20:08:01] <`m3_> other than that, i have seen reporting option in zenoss, not dug into them deeply, and its open source of course ;p
[19-Mar-2008 20:09:47] <jp10558> no jot
[19-Mar-2008 20:09:52] <jp10558> changing to zenoss user
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:05] <jp10558> gives us an access denied error - the original error
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:12] <jp10558> was something else
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:16] <jp10558> it is using root
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:31] <`m3_> of course root can normally read everything
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:48] <`m3_> but most apps wont acccess a db as root
[19-Mar-2008 20:11:06] <`m3_> i mean , most ppl dont, the app will prob do it whatever ;p
[19-Mar-2008 20:12:06] <jp10558> sure, but the ZenPack is using root - it has this command
[19-Mar-2008 20:12:27] <jp10558> Cmd: $ZENHOME/Products/MySqlMonitor/libexec/check_mysql_stats.py -H server -p 3306 -u root -w 'password' -g - Code: 1 - Msg: General error
[19-Mar-2008 20:12:41] <jp10558> well, the Code:1 is from the error
[19-Mar-2008 20:14:16] <`m3_> jp10558, hack the .py file
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:02] <jp10558> If only I knew how
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:11] <`m3_> check_mysql prob should run as root btw
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:44] <jp10558> Why would the error show the password though?
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:45] <`m3_> just search for user / pass
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:53] <`m3_> errors never show passwords
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:58] <`m3_> or shouldnt
[19-Mar-2008 20:16:03] <jp10558> In zenoss the events do though
[19-Mar-2008 20:16:09] <jp10558> sorry, I meant the event in zenoss
[19-Mar-2008 21:05:47] <monrad> anyone know about some good enviromental monitoring systems for serverrooms. we had a water pipe burst earlier today
[19-Mar-2008 21:11:11] <KillMeNow> hrm... only things you can monitor would be temp and humidity
[19-Mar-2008 21:11:19] <KillMeNow> and that would be from the AC unit usually
[19-Mar-2008 21:14:10] <monrad> well we could lay water sensors in all the drip trays
[19-Mar-2008 21:18:53] <malbon> lo all
[19-Mar-2008 21:18:58] <malbon> anyone here use HPUX?
[19-Mar-2008 21:19:08] <`m3_> ok, monrad sensors are available widely
[19-Mar-2008 21:19:24] <`m3_> theres already nagios plugs for it ( for use in zenoss )
[19-Mar-2008 21:20:15] <malbon> `m3_: nagios plugin? hmm, no longer required, I am soliciting testers for my zenpack
[19-Mar-2008 21:20:32] <`m3_> sweet deal
[19-Mar-2008 21:21:01] <`m3_> know anything about mapping events and blank components, and / or transforms ?
[19-Mar-2008 21:21:24] <malbon> works on 11iv1 and 11iv2, I don't have any 11iv3 boxen, so I want to check it works.
[19-Mar-2008 21:21:44] <`m3_> sure it does
[19-Mar-2008 21:22:02] <`m3_> nothing changed that much did it ?
[19-Mar-2008 21:22:38] <malbon> `m3_: nope, I know nothing of those things, I only used the examples posted around, fixed up performance reporting from the mib etc.
[19-Mar-2008 21:23:17] <malbon> next project will be brocade switches, or cannon printers if I can get the mib.
[19-Mar-2008 21:23:28] <malbon> `m3_: want to give it a go?
[19-Mar-2008 21:23:54] <`m3_> give what a go malbon ?
[19-Mar-2008 21:24:22] <malbon> my hpux zenpack
[19-Mar-2008 21:25:18] <`m3_> ive used hpux but i dont have boxen anymore. that risc hardware is rare these days ;p
[19-Mar-2008 21:26:14] <malbon> k, shame
[19-Mar-2008 21:26:59] <malbon> if any sleepers want to try it, you can get it here: http://www.hopeless-newbie.co.uk/HPUX.zip but give me feedback
[19-Mar-2008 21:29:30] <MoreDakka> Any Devs in here now?
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[20-Mar-2008 07:38:47] <joe159> g'day
[20-Mar-2008 07:39:43] <joe159> does anyone know if I can collect cisco IOS configurations from zenoss?
[20-Mar-2008 08:51:33] <nemonl> joe159, yes you can , snmp discover it
[20-Mar-2008 11:30:19] <kop__> uh, okay
[20-Mar-2008 11:30:59] <kop__> one of my switches send the snmp_linkDown in a fashion that doesn't work well with zenoss right now
[20-Mar-2008 11:31:34] <kop__> it's very similar to http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004914.html except this is an HP Procurve
[20-Mar-2008 11:33:03] <kop__> the trap contains a property which key corresponds to the interface in question, i.e. {'1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11.137': 137} for interface 137
[20-Mar-2008 11:39:18] <kop__> should I go about and try to loop through all propertis of the event and see if I can match "1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11.(\d+)" in the transform?
[20-Mar-2008 11:39:51] <kop__> someone else must have been doing this already...
[20-Mar-2008 12:12:47] <nemo_> transforms ... i cant even tell if theyre processed or not
[20-Mar-2008 12:12:54] <nemo_> doesnt seem to do anything for me
[20-Mar-2008 12:15:42] <kop__> sorry?
[20-Mar-2008 15:04:34] <MoreDakka> Anyone know how to graph uptime?
[20-Mar-2008 15:52:22] <nemo_> More: snmp oid oid for uptime is easiest
[20-Mar-2008 15:52:28] <nemo_> MoreDakka,
[20-Mar-2008 15:52:39] <MoreDakka> How can I graph it?
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:13] <nemo_> snmpwalk the host, find the oid
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:13] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to create a "
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:27] <nemo_> if its there, just tell zenoss to model the device
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:31] <MoreDakka> TickstoDays"
[20-Mar-2008 15:55:22] <MoreDakka> i guess a better question would be, how can I get Zenoss to use this on the information from the OID? "8640000,/", need to divide the results by that number to get the uptime in days.
[20-Mar-2008 15:56:37] <Adylas> Hello, I got 400 device to monitor, I m A-Not interested to put an snmp agent on all of em. B-Not interested to add them in a manual way. I would just like to discover via portsan + host name resolution. Is this possible ?
[20-Mar-2008 15:56:47] <nemo_> no idea bout that, i think it will happen automatically if your setup is right
[20-Mar-2008 15:57:37] <MoreDakka> nemo_, are you talking to Adylas or myself?
[20-Mar-2008 15:59:20] <nemo_> i am talking to MoreDakka
[20-Mar-2008 16:00:19] <MoreDakka> Ah, sorry wasn't sure. If I try to graph sysuptime by default it creates a graph that is like a traffic graph, because the number that you will get from sysuptime's oid will be in the millions.
[20-Mar-2008 16:05:07] <Adylas> Any idea about how to map 400 devices without adding them manually or installing snmp on it ?
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:05] <nemo_> lots of ways to do it
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:23] <MoreDakka> I haven't personally done it but I thought Zenoss would scan any subnets that are inputted into networks. The portscan no, it would discover via icmp I'm pretty sure of that one.
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:25] <nemo_> have you read the zenoss website at all ?
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:46] <MoreDakka> <now's the time to link to zenoss.com>
[20-Mar-2008 16:07:20] <MoreDakka> The Admin guide might give some information on that or search the forums as well.
[20-Mar-2008 16:07:22] <nemo_> in the networks tab theres an action for "discover"
[20-Mar-2008 16:25:58] <Adylas> MoreDakka, nemo_ in the discover part of the admin guide, its written that the auto discover is only for host with snmp.
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:31] <nemo_> plugins
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:35] <likuidkewl> All we have an issue that just reared its head and that we cannot find an easy answer to. Currently we are running a test setup here (some of you may have seen Blinny aka Michael) asking about sertain aspects, now we have tried to setup the email alerts they seem to tst fine in the respect that we get one from the "test" and one from the Zentrap service being restarted BUT nothing else comes in eventhough the email alert is set at info or abov
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:37] <nemo_> ipservice
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:38] <MoreDakka> have you tried to add a network in and do an auto-discovery to it?
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:58] <nemo_> i did it last night and it worked on non snmp kit
[20-Mar-2008 16:29:32] <nemo_> not true actually
[20-Mar-2008 16:29:43] <nemo_> i jsut didnt know they had snmp running, sry
[20-Mar-2008 16:30:41] <likuidkewl> Another "issue" we noted too is that in order to see events we cannot utilize the dashboard/device issues section as it always reads "No records found" But when we view the Events there are many(23) in relation to the "Heartbeat Failure" ?? Any ideas?
[20-Mar-2008 16:30:42] <nemo_> Adylas, use the command line to add devices
[20-Mar-2008 16:31:28] <nemo_> likuidkewl, event manager, clear all heartbeats,m clear event cache
[20-Mar-2008 16:34:54] <likuidkewl> "Clearing" the heartbeats doesn't do much besides starting the counts back to zero until it polls again. Is Ack then moving to history waht you are referring too?
[20-Mar-2008 16:35:17] <nemo_> check your logs, you got something wrong there then
[20-Mar-2008 17:16:17] <twm1010> hello hello
[20-Mar-2008 17:23:17] <imperfect-> What do I get if i purchase the Enterprise version? is it just support?
[20-Mar-2008 17:28:21] <Adylas> imperfect-: Hello, in the zenoss.com website, there is a "compare" link at the left
[20-Mar-2008 17:33:16] <Adylas> lol the price is just lol , I got 400 resources to monitor .. 100$ per resources : 40k for a monitoring software that does maybe 10-20% better than nagios ?
[20-Mar-2008 17:34:15] <Adylas> at that price, I will just hire a guy that write ASM to write a software that will do it ;-)
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[20-Mar-2008 17:39:38] <twm1010> well who are you paying for nagios support now?
[20-Mar-2008 17:39:50] <twm1010> and why isn't zenoss core sufficient?
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:26] <imperfect-> lol
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:27] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:40] <imperfect-> There seems to be like
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:44] <imperfect-> zero documentation that's worth a damn
[20-Mar-2008 17:41:59] <twm1010> Sounds like you're not really putting in any effort
[20-Mar-2008 17:42:35] <twm1010> There's 207 pages in the manual, plenty of information right there. You just have to read it.
[20-Mar-2008 17:44:25] <twm1010> I guess what I'm saying here is, you sound like you don't want to spend money, but it doesn't sound like you're willing to spend any time on it either. It's gonna cost you at least one or the other, if not both.
[20-Mar-2008 17:44:30] <twm1010> Especially since time is money
[20-Mar-2008 17:48:03] <Adylas> twm1010: I am doing the support. about 0.1% of my time for 65k a year, so 65$ a year.
[20-Mar-2008 17:48:36] <MoreDakka> $65/year is your budget...yeesh.
[20-Mar-2008 17:48:36] <Adylas> And it does work nice, but I just don't like it.
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:00] <Adylas> Naa I m sure that my boss would be willing to put 1/2k in a monitoring, but not 40.
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:25] <MoreDakka> 1/2k is just the server costs and not any labor costs to set it up and maintain it... :-/
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:26] <Adylas> we are not NASA here ;-)
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:47] <twm1010> I threw my Zenoss machine up as Virtual Appliance tagged onto one of our webservers that generally idles all day.
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:53] <twm1010> and went from there.
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:01] <Adylas> monitor is a small part of maintain.
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:10] <twm1010> Only cost so far has been my times
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:37] <twm1010> It's monitoring 196 devices, of varying O/S, reporting performance, and alerting me nicely, but the learning curve for me was enormous.
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:49] <MoreDakka> ^^ yep
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:01] <Adylas> It took ? A week ? 2 weeks ?
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:16] <MoreDakka> what sucks is zenoss's wmi alerting isn't working for me so my boss is wanting me to look into orion....expensive.
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:22] <twm1010> Ah... you got me there, on and off time for maybe 3 months...
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:29] <twm1010> MoreDakka, what kind of alerting?
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:30] <MoreDakka> ^^ Yep
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:43] <MoreDakka> when a service fails or is stopped.
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:57] <twm1010> Honestly, I found SNMP traps to handle critical events, hardware failure, etc., and am using the perfmon zenpack for performance monitoring
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:01] <MoreDakka> Zenoss 2.1.2 doesn't alert me or even notice that the server has stopped.
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:17] <twm1010> You don't even get a pingdown?!
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:33] <Adylas> monitor the service , not the daemon ..
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:43] <MoreDakka> If the server drops I'll get alerts on that but I'm wanting to monitor a mission critical application and snmp can't do that for me.
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:51] <Adylas> Because sometimes, the daemon (service) can run, but the result is just not there.
[20-Mar-2008 17:53:00] <twm1010> Hrmmm... you know what you could do?
[20-Mar-2008 17:53:15] <twm1010> Use the same mechanism the perfmon zenpack uses to run typeperf
[20-Mar-2008 17:53:24] <twm1010> and have it check the status of the service
[20-Mar-2008 17:54:51] <MoreDakka> I've never used the perfmon pack or any zenpacks for that matter.....yay another learning curve ;-)
[20-Mar-2008 18:01:29] <twm1010> its pretty easy
[20-Mar-2008 18:01:45] <twm1010> what it does is use the windows credentials you provide in the zprops, to remote execute typeperf
[20-Mar-2008 18:01:53] <twm1010> which returns a standard windows performance counter of your choosing
[20-Mar-2008 18:02:06] <twm1010> i use it for all windows performance monitoring
[20-Mar-2008 18:02:25] <MoreDakka> So a piece of software would be installed on the client to get this working?
[20-Mar-2008 18:07:15] <twm1010> it pushes a service called WINEXE to the clients
[20-Mar-2008 18:07:21] <twm1010> thru WMI i believe
[20-Mar-2008 18:11:07] <twm1010> though, i would think this would be a good time to be sure your domain account doesn't have god-like powers
[20-Mar-2008 18:11:21] <twm1010> otherwise someone could use this to make your zenoss box destroy your windows network
[20-Mar-2008 18:21:42] <twm1010> if you look on enterprise zenpacks though, you will see that zenoss wrote something similar, so clearly they see some merit to it
[20-Mar-2008 19:07:06] <imperfect-> Is there something special I need to do to get zen to get an interface list from a switch and start doing performance graphs besides add the device?
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:27] <MoreDakka> add the device with snmp and it should poll all the ports and create traffic graphs for those ports.
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:36] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:38] <imperfect-> It's not doing that
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:46] <imperfect-> The device is there but there's nothing under PEF
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:47] <imperfect-> er PERF
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:55] <MoreDakka> Nope, it's under OS.
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:00] <MoreDakka> then the interface is there.
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:04] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:06] <imperfect-> ti's not there either
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:09] <MoreDakka> as long as snmp is working
[20-Mar-2008 19:10:38] <imperfect-> well O just added another device
[20-Mar-2008 19:10:42] <imperfect-> and it works as your described
[20-Mar-2008 19:10:43] <imperfect-> lets hope
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:43] <imperfect-> Thing is, I don't see how this is very useful. ;(
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:51] <MoreDakka> ?
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:54] <imperfect-> I mean it seems like a total PITA to create a map
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:55] <imperfect-> etc
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:04] <imperfect-> I need a pretty dahboard for the managers
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:08] <MoreDakka> Ahh
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:09] <MoreDakka> haha
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:25] <MoreDakka> sucka ;-) Yeah the map isn't really useful at all, just to make things look pretty.
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:39] <imperfect-> Tell ya wwhat stinks
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:46] <MoreDakka> I just disabled it on mine, saves on load time too.
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:47] <imperfect-> it wont get interface stats from my cisco 6513
[20-Mar-2008 19:19:23] <MoreDakka> Does it list interfaces just no graphs are generated?
[20-Mar-2008 19:19:49] <imperfect-> Nope
[20-Mar-2008 19:19:53] <imperfect-> it says no interfaces
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:00] <MoreDakka> Maybe it's right?
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:01] <MoreDakka> \haha
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:08] <imperfect-> well
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:12] <imperfect-> Considering I've got like
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:14] <MoreDakka> That would be a sweet switch.
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:16] <imperfect-> > 300 ports in there
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:19] <MoreDakka> hehe
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:50] <MoreDakka> Hmm, not sure what do tell you, if snmp is working on the device (can you snmpwalk it from the command line?)
[20-Mar-2008 19:21:09] <MoreDakka> And when you walk it (if that works) can you see the ports there?
[20-Mar-2008 19:21:23] <imperfect-> I've got other software that it works fine for
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:01] <MoreDakka> Hm, not sure what to tell you then.
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:35] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:37] <imperfect-> it's bizarre
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:43] <imperfect-> 2k HP switch works great
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:46] <imperfect-> 150k cisco
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:47] <imperfect-> not so much
[20-Mar-2008 19:25:28] <imperfect-> INFO zen.ZenModelerno portscan plugins found for
[20-Mar-2008 19:25:33] <imperfect-> Wonder if that's why
[20-Mar-2008 19:26:17] <imperfect-> NOpe
[20-Mar-2008 19:26:22] <imperfect-> sayst hat for all of em
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[21-Mar-2008 01:33:13] <monrad> nice a fix for the memleak in the datacollector, i think i need to apply soon
[21-Mar-2008 01:33:27] <monrad> it pays of to read the trac timeline
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[21-Mar-2008 11:33:25] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[21-Mar-2008 11:33:34] <[Wiebel]> it would be cool if zenoss had snmp write support
[21-Mar-2008 11:33:43] <[Wiebel]> so I can enable or disable switch ports
[21-Mar-2008 13:03:49] <imperfect-> Hey
[21-Mar-2008 13:04:05] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to map events to auto acknowledge and go to history?
[21-Mar-2008 14:26:22] <KillMeNow> good morning folks
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[24-Mar-2008 13:13:30] <jp10558> Anyone here using the MySQL monitor zenpack? I'm still getting a Code: 1 - Msg: General error ... and no graphs
[24-Mar-2008 16:03:18] <draygon> Hello, anyone here?
[24-Mar-2008 16:03:18] <draygon> libmysqlclient.so.15 is needed by zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386
[24-Mar-2008 16:03:24] <draygon> How do I fix that? or what do I install?
[24-Mar-2008 16:06:22] <draygon> libmysqlclient.so.15 is needed by zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386
[24-Mar-2008 16:06:23] <draygon> How do I fix that? or what do I install?
[24-Mar-2008 16:11:48] <wassy121> draygon: that is part of the mysql-shared package.
[24-Mar-2008 16:11:59] <wassy121> Depending on your OS, you can install it in different ways.
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:20] <draygon> CentOS
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:32] <wassy121> 3/4/5?
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:35] <draygon> cant find a way to install though
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:36] <draygon> 5
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:56] <wassy121> first, let me be sure you don't have a custom version of mysql?
[24-Mar-2008 16:13:20] <draygon> I have a control panel installed on the server (directadmin)
[24-Mar-2008 16:13:24] <draygon> but that should affect anything
[24-Mar-2008 16:14:29] <wassy121> Run 'rpm -qi mysql' to see if you have the centos version.
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:01] <wassy121> It looks like mysql on centos 5 actually provides the libraries in that package. You may just need to run 'yum install mysql'
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:16] <draygon> [root@main ~]# rpm -qi mysql
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:16] <draygon> package mysql is not installed
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:16] <draygon> [root@main ~]#
[24-Mar-2008 16:19:55] <draygon> ?
[24-Mar-2008 16:20:20] <MoreDakka_> Quoted from wassy121 "You may just need to run 'yum install mysql' "
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:03] <MoreDakka_> Have you gone through this http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ ?
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:17] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL5 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:25] <wassy121> I am afraid you may have a custom MySQL installation, especially if you have a control-panelled server.
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:27] <MoreDakka_> Follow each step exactly and you'll get zenoss installed.
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:36] <wassy121> That is my only fear.
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:45] <wassy121> The 'yum install mysql' will definately install the package.
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:10] <wassy121> try 'locate mysql | grep bin'
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:19] <MoreDakka_> what about a ' ps aux |grep mysql ' Would that come up with mysql even if custom?
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:24] <wassy121> Just to be sure there isn't a crazy non-standard version on there.
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:32] <wassy121> Yes, that would work to see if it is running moreDakka.
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:06] <draygon> yep
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:08] <draygon> mysql is install
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:18] <wassy121> See, it is never easy.
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:27] <wassy121> try 'locate mysql | grep so$'
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:33] <wassy121> To find the library locations.
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:34] <MoreDakka_> On a fresh install of CentOS5 it's really easy ;-)
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:39] <wassy121> ./agree
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:52] <draygon> [root@server ~]# locate mysql | grep so$
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:52] <draygon> [root@server ~]#
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:09] <wassy121> how about 'rpm -qa | grep -i mysql'
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:25] <draygon> MySQL-client-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:25] <draygon> MySQL-server-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:25] <draygon> MySQL-devel-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:31] <wassy121> Ah. Community version.
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:35] <wassy121> It seems.
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:47] <draygon> possibly, how do I get this installed though
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:59] <draygon> this specific depen, so I can get zenoss installed
[24-Mar-2008 16:25:02] <wassy121> You need to find/download/install 'MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0"
[24-Mar-2008 16:25:32] <wassy121> rpm -qi MySQL-server-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:25:36] <wassy121> What does that turn up?
[24-Mar-2008 16:26:26] <wassy121> That usually points to the build host, or vendor or something.
[24-Mar-2008 16:26:50] <wassy121> That leads to the RPM location of the original packages.
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:08] <draygon> Name : MySQL-server Relocations: (not relocatable)
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:08] <draygon> Version : 5.0.37 Vendor: MySQL AB
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:35] <wassy121> If this is a shared server (which control panel machines sometimes are), it may have a custom set of RPMs or a custom repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:52] <draygon> [root@server yum.repos.d]# ls
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:52] <draygon> CentOS-Base.repo CentOS-Media.repo
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:04] <wassy121> hmm, try 'yum install MySQL-shared'
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:19] <wassy121> If that prompts you to actually install the package, then go for it.
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:30] <wassy121> Maybe my CentOS5 machine is wacky . . .
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:57] <MoreDakka_> That is the one thing I don't like about Linux...trying to fill dependencies... :-/
[24-Mar-2008 16:30:07] <MoreDakka_> a glorious pain.
[24-Mar-2008 16:30:44] <wassy121> Yep, because it has to be so specific. And there are so many variables depending on which versions you have of everything.
[24-Mar-2008 16:31:13] <draygon> Nothing
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:11] <wassy121> It seems you have the community version pre-installed on there by your provider.
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:21] <draygon> ok
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:22] <draygon> now
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:25] <wassy121> At mysql.com somewhere there is a link to the old archives.
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:32] <wassy121> Where you need to find that specific RPM
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:38] <draygon> which one?
[24-Mar-2008 16:34:05] <wassy121> You need to find/download/install 'MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0"
[24-Mar-2008 16:34:46] <draygon> would that conflict with the current version i have installed
[24-Mar-2008 16:35:02] <wassy121> You don't have a current version of that package installed.
[24-Mar-2008 16:35:19] <wassy121> This is to ensure the MySQL-shared package is the same version as your MySQL-server and MySQL-client package.
[24-Mar-2008 16:36:51] <wassy121> http://files.directadmin.com/services/all/mysql/MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0.i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:00] <wassy121> rpm -Uvh http://files.directadmin.com/services/all/mysql/MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0.i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:28] <draygon> run that command?
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:32] <wassy121> yes.
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:46] <draygon> .i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:46] <draygon> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:46] <draygon> 1:MySQL-shared ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:48] <wassy121> It should download/install without any complaints.
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:53] <draygon> thats it
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:54] <draygon> is it done/
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:04] <wassy121> Did you get a command prompt back?
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:08] <draygon> yep
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:10] <wassy121> Then yes.
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:15] <wassy121> Now try to install zenoss again.
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:43] <draygon> [root@server ~]# rpm -ihv zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:44] <draygon> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:44] <draygon> 1:zenoss ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:44] <draygon> [root@server ~]#
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:49] <draygon> is zenoss done installing that quick?
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:53] <wassy121> fixed.
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:03] <wassy121> Yeah.
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:08] <wassy121> It is fast/easy to install it.
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:09] <draygon> nice you rock man
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:13] <draygon> so what do i do now?
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:16] <draygon> just point my browser?
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:17] <wassy121> hahaha
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[24-Mar-2008 16:39:37] <draygon> on: zenping starting...
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:37] <draygon> WARN: config file /opt/zenoss/etc/zenping.conf not found skipping
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:37] <draygon> Daemon: zensyslog starting...
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:57] <wassy121-afk> read the FAQ/howto through a few times.
[24-Mar-2008 16:45:08] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[24-Mar-2008 17:20:23] <draygon> hey
[24-Mar-2008 17:20:33] <draygon> whic files do I edit for the database information etc in zenoss?
[24-Mar-2008 17:21:00] <npmccallum> Who is the right person to talk about Zenoss' QA with?
[24-Mar-2008 17:44:13] <draygon> hey
[24-Mar-2008 17:44:20] <draygon> where do I specify the database details?
[24-Mar-2008 18:00:31] <draygon> hey what is the default login/password after setup?
[24-Mar-2008 18:04:33] <npmccallum> draygon: admin/zenoss
[24-Mar-2008 18:06:40] <draygon> got it, thanks
[24-Mar-2008 18:44:10] <kgoedtel> .
[24-Mar-2008 19:01:02] <jp10558> Anyone have any ideas about the event Code: 1 - Msg: General error with the MySQL zenpack?
[24-Mar-2008 19:11:25] <draygon> where are you getting that?
[24-Mar-2008 19:23:02] <jp10558> As an event
[24-Mar-2008 19:23:14] <jp10558> for a system that I've bound the MySQL zenpac kto
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[25-Mar-2008 07:05:12] <nemo_> morning
[25-Mar-2008 08:03:45] <nemo_> hmm my zenoss slowed down to a crawl with 216999 items in the event console.
[25-Mar-2008 08:03:55] <nemo_> whats a good mysql query to clear that
[25-Mar-2008 10:54:48] <nemo_> anyone forwards syslogs to zenoss?
[25-Mar-2008 11:57:15] <Joelio> hey guys, does anybody know what the pricing structure for the xSP release is?
[25-Mar-2008 14:35:16] <jb> I'm trying to ignore filesystem thresholds/alerts for 2 filesystems that appear on every server within /Devices/Server/Linux
[25-Mar-2008 14:35:39] <jb> I thought I could set the zFileSystemIgnore zproperty on the entire Linux tree, but it appear that I cant.. any ideas on how I can do this?
[25-Mar-2008 14:36:24] <MoreDakka_> You could change the alert to not include file system alerts...but that will be for all systems.
[25-Mar-2008 14:38:43] <jb> yeah.. dont want to do that
[25-Mar-2008 14:40:42] <MoreDakka_> What about changing the thresholds?
[25-Mar-2008 14:42:22] <jb> i really only want to ignore these two NFS filesystems that appear on every box.. not change the threshold for all filesystems
[25-Mar-2008 15:11:44] <danw_> afternoon anyone around?
[25-Mar-2008 15:19:39] <TheFRC> hi
[25-Mar-2008 15:22:50] <TheFRC> i can't seem to find in the faq if zenoss core support snmpv3
[25-Mar-2008 15:23:00] <TheFRC> anyone here know?
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[25-Mar-2008 16:02:59] <danw_> how can i add vmware hosts/guests in the core version?
[25-Mar-2008 17:04:28] <Muxen> has anyone tried the LDAP ActiveDirectory stuff in 2.1.3? I followed the WIKI howto on it, but the plugins dont show up?
[25-Mar-2008 17:14:10] <Muxen> ok, so I get that when python is starting it can not find python-ldap, this is because PYTHONPATH is set to $ZENHOME/lib/python instead of the system python dir??
[25-Mar-2008 17:14:21] <Muxen> echo ...
[25-Mar-2008 18:52:52] <TheFRC> nm. found my answer.
[25-Mar-2008 18:53:01] <TheFRC> snmpv4 is supported in core since 2.1.1
[25-Mar-2008 18:53:09] * TheFRC looks at his hands warily
[25-Mar-2008 18:53:13] <TheFRC> snmpv3 too
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[26-Mar-2008 01:44:31] <locohost__> hmm, trying to think of the best way to use the 64 bit counter for almost every device, but be able to use the 32 for just a few devices that dont like it
[26-Mar-2008 04:32:04] <Daemoen> hello all
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[26-Mar-2008 05:30:48] <Daemoen> are there plans to update zenoss to rely on newer python versions? ie 2.5 instead of 2.3 and 2.4
[26-Mar-2008 05:48:37] <TheFRC> hi
[26-Mar-2008 05:49:09] <TheFRC> i'm sure it's in the roadmap somewhere
[26-Mar-2008 05:49:18] <TheFRC> i am just making educated guesses though
[26-Mar-2008 14:10:16] <locohost> anyone know off hand where to change the log path?
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[26-Mar-2008 14:22:02] <locohost> on one of my dev boxes, i did a reinstall of zenoss, and the down arrow on the main navigation tab (status, os, hw, software, events) is just gone
[26-Mar-2008 14:22:06] <locohost> anyone have any idea?
[26-Mar-2008 14:22:49] <MoreDakka_> Ctrl-f5?
[26-Mar-2008 14:22:57] <MoreDakka_> (just a thought)
[26-Mar-2008 14:26:57] <locohost> heh, yeah, tried a refresh, another browser, restarting zenoss, different computer,
[26-Mar-2008 14:28:02] <MoreDakka_> I had that problem when I upgraded from 1.1.1 -> 2.0.3 ->2.1.0 . And for some reason I can't remember the fix.
[26-Mar-2008 14:28:15] <MoreDakka_> The only other thing that can magically fix lots of stuff is zenmigrate
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:24] <locohost> it wasnt an upgrade, but i did remove the rpm and reinstall the same version, trying that now
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:39] <locohost> if not ill just say f it, and do a fresh kickstart install
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:49] <MoreDakka_> haha
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:53] <MoreDakka_> that always works ;-)
[26-Mar-2008 14:36:39] <locohost> stop zenoss before doing casting that zenmigrate spell?
[26-Mar-2008 14:37:53] <MoreDakka_> I don't think so, I haven't run it in a while but I'm pretty zenoss was still running cause it needs zeoctrl (bah, brain isn't working today, I think that's the process name).
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:07] <locohost> zenmigrate -v 10 --step=MenuRelations ftw
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:23] <locohost> thanks dude
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:32] <MoreDakka_> Did it work?
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:54] <locohost> yeah `zenmigrate -v 10 --step=MenuRelations
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:54] <locohost> ` as zenoss did it
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:14] <locohost> while zenoss was running
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:26] <locohost> the the mystical ctrl f5 you speak so highly of
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:33] <MoreDakka_> Zenmigrage fixes lots of stuff and gives food to the homeless it's soo good.
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:39] <MoreDakka_> zenmigrate even
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:52] <locohost> it just asked for 7 red mana crystals, luckily i had them
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:56] <MoreDakka_> hahaha
[26-Mar-2008 14:46:08] <MoreDakka_> Yay, haven't worked with AD or Exchange in a long time and I have to find out what's wrong with our client's server...gah.
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:12] <locohost> it sounds like maybe there server has windows on it. ...
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:16] <locohost> sounds like a good enough RCA to me
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:29] <MoreDakka_> RCA?
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[26-Mar-2008 14:50:47] <locohost> root cause analysis
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:53] <MoreDakka> haha
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:56] <MoreDakka> yep
[26-Mar-2008 15:04:56] <TheFRC> hi
[26-Mar-2008 15:24:32] <nemo_> HELLO
[26-Mar-2008 15:26:43] <KillMeNow> howdy
[26-Mar-2008 15:34:31] <locohost> hi
[26-Mar-2008 15:37:11] <MoreDakka> hallo
[26-Mar-2008 15:39:53] <locohost> bah, now my preference tab is blank
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:02] <locohost> pref* rather
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:03] <MoreDakka> haha...
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:11] <MoreDakka> well, it's not really funny
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:19] <MoreDakka> well, sorta is though.
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:41] <nemo_> MoreDakka, dutch ?
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:50] <MoreDakka> Nope, Canadian
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:58] <nemo_> oh no !
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:06] <MoreDakka> oh no?
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:09] <nemo_> j/k
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:11] <nemo_> ;p
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:14] <MoreDakka> Canada ftw ;-)
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:21] <locohost> <--from holland
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:33] <locohost> well, 3 generations ago, anyway
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:35] <nemo_> <--- living in holland
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:53] <locohost> Have you ever head of Simon Van Slingelandt?
[26-Mar-2008 15:42:04] <nemo_> nope
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:00] <locohost> he was a staunch republican, who wanted to keep the House of Orange out of the centre of power in the early-mid 1700s
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:13] <nemo_> thats why i didnt hear about him then ;p
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:39] <nemo_> cool name tho
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:43] <locohost> Grand Pensionary of Holland from July 17, 1727 to December 1, 1736.
[26-Mar-2008 15:46:37] <TheFRC> how's the assett management side of zenoss?
[26-Mar-2008 15:46:42] <TheFRC> i don't see a lot of info on it
[26-Mar-2008 15:46:58] <TheFRC> beyond "node name" "hostname" "node type"
[26-Mar-2008 15:47:22] <TheFRC> can i fill it with serial numbers, and physical location identifiers?
[26-Mar-2008 15:47:33] <locohost> i made zenoss read of my existing cmdb, i was not happy with it
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[26-Mar-2008 16:29:47] <aedaemoen> Good morning all
[26-Mar-2008 16:38:21] <aedaemoen> has anyone had any issues installing zenoss on RHEL5?
[26-Mar-2008 16:38:41] <MoreDakka> I've isntalled it many times on CentOS 5 without issues.
[26-Mar-2008 16:38:48] * aedaemoen nods.
[26-Mar-2008 16:39:02] <aedaemoen> just curious. I know on Fedora8 it didnt play so well
[26-Mar-2008 16:39:20] <MoreDakka> Ah, that's never fun
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:15] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: Im debating if I want to implement zenoss or stick with nagios for our environment. right now im leaning at zenoss for a rather silly reason....
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:29] <locohost> rhel 4 and 5 over here
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:35] * locohost wanders to a meeting
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:48] <MoreDakka> I didn't use Nagios for very long, it's not bad but the configuration sucks.
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:10] <MoreDakka> Zenoss is nice for it's configuration abilities but I find that Nagios's alerting was better.
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:21] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: yeah... i installed it, but im very new to snmp and such so its also rather confusing (nagios)
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:28] <aedaemoen> really? zenoss implements nagios though...
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:37] <MoreDakka> We use a combo of Zenoss and Cacti (it's easier to create graphs in Cacti rather then Zenoss)
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:45] * aedaemoen goes googling
[26-Mar-2008 16:42:35] <MoreDakka> I just liked Nagios's alerting, Zenoss is good but not as detailed as I would like it (my fav in Nagios is the Packetloss monitoring, haven't been able to get that going in Zenoss )
[26-Mar-2008 16:43:38] * aedaemoen nods.
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:01] <aedaemoen> how experienced are/were you with monitoring in general? fairly new to it or?
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:15] <MoreDakka> extremely new.
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:22] <MoreDakka> I was new to Linux and monitoring.
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:24] <aedaemoen> ahh
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:49] <aedaemoen> so then for a fairly experienced admin using zenoss shouldnt be too bad for the first go round
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:56] <MoreDakka> So Zenoss was my first real taste of it. I will vouche for it though, has saved us in a couple outages.
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:03] * aedaemoen nods
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:04] <MoreDakka> Nope, should be good.
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:26] <TheFRC> can you write your own custom checks and get zenoss to use them?
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:30] <MoreDakka> We are still running v1.1.1 and the transition to 2.1.3 is being a bit of a pain...but that's our fault for not upgrading more.
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:37] <TheFRC> i'm not new to monitoring at all, just new to zenoss
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:51] <MoreDakka> Yep. You can use Nagios commands and create those custom commands.
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:02] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: wow... i would think that most of your features have been implemented by now then :-D
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:03] <MoreDakka> Or python or whatever.
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:07] <TheFRC> [nod] i'm looking at replacing nagios with zenos
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:15] <TheFRC> s/zenos/zenoss/
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:40] <MoreDakka> Ha, I've got a box running 2.1.3 but it's an old Dell server that the raid controller is going...don't want an unstable box for the monitoring box.
[26-Mar-2008 16:47:12] <TheFRC> i'm an snmp ninja, and really want nrpe/check_by_ssh to die
[26-Mar-2008 16:47:14] <TheFRC> in a fire
[26-Mar-2008 16:48:36] <MoreDakka> We have a client that needs a piece of software monitored and I was hoping that the WMI in zenoss would work and alert when a service goes down....nope
[26-Mar-2008 16:48:51] <MoreDakka> WMI is still somewhat broken in zenoss in my opinion.
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:28] <TheFRC> you could write a custom check, and integrate it
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:31] <TheFRC> I just learned that
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:34] <TheFRC> 6 lines ago
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:35] <TheFRC>
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:36] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: ok, so youre obviously familiar with dell and perc raid...
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:01] <MoreDakka> Well I am now.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:11] <aedaemoen> can zenoss monitor perc raid using snmp?
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:13] <MoreDakka> Nothing like having the little orange light on the drives blinking.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:28] <MoreDakka> If you have Dell OMSA installed on the server.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:35] <aedaemoen> omsa?
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:40] <aedaemoen> openmanage
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:41] <aedaemoen> ewww
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:48] <MoreDakka> Yeah...that's really the only way though.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:52] <aedaemoen> yuck
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:54] <aedaemoen> lol
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:56] <MoreDakka> That I found.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:59] <TheFRC> windows or *nix?
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:03] <MoreDakka> Both
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:06] * TheFRC assumes windows
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:24] <aedaemoen> every machine we buy from dell i wipe and reinstall just the os.
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:24] <MoreDakka> Dell has a nix install but it's pretty specific for it's distros
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:30] <TheFRC> well, in the *nix you can monitor them using snmp exec statements running scripts that check via the proc fs
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:37] <MoreDakka> true
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:51] <TheFRC> it's kind of the long way around, but it works
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:56] <aedaemoen> ....
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:59] <TheFRC> and it's fairly snappy. sub second.
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:07] <aedaemoen> ok, im familiar wth linux... but that one lost me
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:08] <aedaemoen> lol
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:38] <MoreDakka> stupid dell raid controllers.
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:54] <MoreDakka> Great, now that I said that I bet that server is going to crash again.
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:00] <TheFRC> haha
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:02] <MoreDakka> karma...sheesh
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:20] <TheFRC> so, with snmp you can run exec statements, which essentially maps an OID to a script
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:31] <TheFRC> and when you snmpget the OID, it runs the script, and returns the output
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:57] <MoreDakka> Uh you can do it that way or just input the OID into Zenoss and let zenoss do that for you.
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:10] <MoreDakka> But whatever floats your boat.
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:25] <TheFRC> you make that script hit the proc filesystem for whatever info you want. if /proc doesn't have the info you want, you can use hdparm, or [specific vendor script] or whatever
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:42] <TheFRC> well... the oid is just the way to get the info
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:50] <TheFRC> you still need to setup the oid to return the info you want
[26-Mar-2008 16:55:24] <TheFRC> zenoss polls the oid, the oid is setup to return the info, the exec statement attached to the oid gives you the output
[26-Mar-2008 16:55:41] <TheFRC> 3 steps to nirvana
[26-Mar-2008 16:55:49] * aedaemoen thinks hes going to be buying an snmp book realllllllllllll soon
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:03] <TheFRC> like I said, kinda convoluted, but once it works, it's what the kids refer to as "the dope ish"
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:44] <MoreDakka> Yeah, snmp is the shiznit.
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:44] <TheFRC> aedaemoen: http://www.dpstele.com/layers/l2/snmp_l2_tut_part1.php
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:50] <TheFRC> i started there
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: SNMP Tutorial Part 1: An Introduction to SNMP (at www.dpstele.com)
[26-Mar-2008 16:57:10] <TheFRC> after I got the basics down, I went down the road of encryption and snmp v3
[26-Mar-2008 16:57:40] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: yeah, i found that yesterday and printed it off :-D
[26-Mar-2008 16:58:38] <MoreDakka> Bah, hate going into client's production servers when they are running windows2k server.....hit the shutdown button to logoff...seriously, who thought of that smart move.
[26-Mar-2008 17:00:21] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: gates? :-D
[26-Mar-2008 17:00:42] <MoreDakka> Guess that's why he is worth soo much...coming up with the great ideas like that.
[26-Mar-2008 17:02:48] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: you mean stealing the creative thoughts of others, running to the patent office with his checkbook and M$ logo sticker, and screaming "ITS MINE!"
[26-Mar-2008 17:03:19] <MoreDakka> haha. Doesn't he have a hot daughter though?
[26-Mar-2008 17:04:01] * aedaemoen goes googling again
[26-Mar-2008 17:04:57] <aedaemoen> ummm.... sure.... if youre into 12 year olds i guess....
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:13] <MoreDakka> Oh...haha nvm then....
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:21] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:29] * aedaemoen pats google
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:36] <MoreDakka> Must have been a different picture that I saw.
[26-Mar-2008 17:06:11] <aedaemoen> lol, probably the same one i just found thats really one of my favorite actresses... rachel leigh cook
[26-Mar-2008 17:06:46] <aedaemoen> http://bp0.blogger.com/_h_J4rB7PN3w/R9J2l0O13mI/AAAAAAAAACA/XPF39K5g2N4/s1600-h/untitled1.bmp
[26-Mar-2008 17:06:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: untitled1.bmp (image) (at bp0.blogger.com)
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:12] * aedaemoen peers at the bot.
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:18] <aedaemoen> ok, whats the bots deal, lol
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:30] <aedaemoen> it investigate any and all hyperlinks?
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:34] <MoreDakka> Ah yes, that's the picture I saw.
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:39] <aedaemoen> yeah, thats rlc :-D
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:51] <MoreDakka> Was she playing Bill gate's daughter or something?
[26-Mar-2008 17:08:15] <aedaemoen> lol, nooooooooo clue. googling returns that its basically just another of the famous chain letter craps
[26-Mar-2008 17:08:27] <MoreDakka> Ah yep
[26-Mar-2008 17:09:36] <aedaemoen> time to go about playing with zenoss, wheee
[26-Mar-2008 17:15:41] <TheFRC> [nod]
[26-Mar-2008 17:15:50] <TheFRC> if you have questions about snmp, i'll be here
[26-Mar-2008 17:16:07] <TheFRC> i'm pretty decent with snmp, *nix, and regex, and scripting
[26-Mar-2008 17:16:16] <TheFRC> and beer. I'm really good with beer.
[26-Mar-2008 17:20:50] <Xander7> mmmm beer
[26-Mar-2008 17:42:31] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: love regex. love one liners... love having to edit makefiles and uncomment targets (ie: uninstall for nagios)... learning snmp now :-D
[26-Mar-2008 17:42:38] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 17:59:20] * aedaemoen finds it amusing that the el4 instructions specify to use yum to install specific packages.... even though EL4 doesnt use yum, its still up2date
[26-Mar-2008 18:00:55] <MoreDakka> I installed it on CentOS4 using yum
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:07] <aedaemoen> centos has always used yum
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:12] <MoreDakka> centos ftw
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:22] <aedaemoen> actual rhel used up2date until rhel5 when they replaced it with yum :-D
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:23] <TheFRC> hehe. i love one liners that wrap 4 times
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:34] <TheFRC> and now, staff meeting.
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:35] <TheFRC> peace.
[26-Mar-2008 18:02:08] <aedaemoen> now the part that concerns me... i have mysql server and such already running... how are the zen reqs rpms setup, any idea if they replace the current install or if they install side by side MoreDakka ?
[26-Mar-2008 18:02:48] <aedaemoen> really dont want to have to install these rpms and find out they hosed my current config from poor planning, lol
[26-Mar-2008 18:02:52] <MoreDakka> zenoss "shouldn't" install mysql, I'm pretty sure that needs to be done before hand so if you have it installed already then you're good to go.
[26-Mar-2008 18:03:12] <MoreDakka> It'll yell at you if the dependencies don't work.
[26-Mar-2008 18:03:40] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: its complaining on RHEL4 because el4 only comes with mysql4 not 5
[26-Mar-2008 18:04:53] * aedaemoen bashes his head against a wall
[26-Mar-2008 18:05:03] <Bulwinkle> gonna have to have mysql 5.0.22 I think as a minimum
[26-Mar-2008 18:05:49] <aedaemoen> Bulwinkle: yeap... and of course, the downloadable deps provided by sourceforge are i386... which granted, i *can* install on my machine... but alongside a 4.0 x86_64 im not sure how that would pan out...
[26-Mar-2008 18:05:54] * aedaemoen goes to get src rpms to build
[26-Mar-2008 18:06:45] <Bulwinkle> aedaemoen: you can probably find a rpm on mysql.com
[26-Mar-2008 18:51:42] <_LoneCrow> I was wondering... we have some linux routers, but limited space on the flash. Is it somehow possible to graph people inside the lan with Zenoss, to see if they are using p2p/http etc.. ? Sort of like how bandwidthd does it?
[26-Mar-2008 18:59:21] <TheFRC> installing mysql 5.0.45 on centos4/rhel4 is actually quite easy
[26-Mar-2008 18:59:44] <TheFRC> as long as you don't already have 5.0.xx installed
[26-Mar-2008 18:59:48] <TheFRC> where xx < 22
[26-Mar-2008 19:17:29] * aedaemoen ponders...
[26-Mar-2008 19:17:41] <aedaemoen> well, now ive got zenoss "installed" but its having eezues
[26-Mar-2008 19:29:22] <aedaemoen> ... i really hope the install isnt as poor as it seems to be at this point... the app looks to be great, but the install process of the latest rpm seems to be horrible
[26-Mar-2008 19:31:40] <aedaemoen> talk about a really really really big glitch...
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:36] <TheFRC> *shrug*
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:43] <TheFRC> installs are always painful
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:53] <TheFRC> hell, nagios install can be painful
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:59] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: it wouldnt be so bad if the documentation warned about a silent failure with the rpm.
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:24] <TheFRC> wha wha wha
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:26] <aedaemoen> the way the rpm is constructed, you have to 1st unset your mysql passwords for root, otherwise it will just run right straight over it, failng to create vital components, and youll never know
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:40] <TheFRC> that is, uhh...
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:43] <TheFRC> suboptimal
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:54] <aedaemoen> if you have a root password set, the rpm finishes installing fine, but you never know a single thing about why your service doesnt start up
[26-Mar-2008 19:37:01] <TheFRC> hrm.
[26-Mar-2008 19:37:11] <TheFRC> can you set it to something in particular?
[26-Mar-2008 19:37:46] <aedaemoen> not sure, im tempted to break apart the rpm and see what in the hell they did..., packaging it as a compiled rpm is fine... so long as you note that there are requirements to running it...
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:04] <aedaemoen> now comes the second part of the task... finding out what in the world the default password and login are
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:05] <TheFRC> documentation is for the weak
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:27] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: id partially agree if we were using src code to compile the packages and install
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:39] <aedaemoen> if you cant interpret make errors and lib incompats thats youre own problem
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:42] <TheFRC> can you d/l core source?
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:54] <TheFRC> i honestly hadn't checked
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:05] <aedaemoen> but when you are using an rpm you expect it to work if you follow the install instructions on the site :-D
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:13] <TheFRC> pfft
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:14] <aedaemoen> yeah... .tbz2 files
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:19] <TheFRC> you and your "expectations"
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:32] <TheFRC> and your desires for "documentation"
[26-Mar-2008 19:41:27] <aedaemoen> lol
[26-Mar-2008 19:41:38] * aedaemoen is a documentation freak
[26-Mar-2008 19:41:56] * locohost offers aedaemoen a job
[26-Mar-2008 19:42:16] * aedaemoen peers at locohost
[26-Mar-2008 19:44:42] <locohost> why would there be no disk info under the os tab of a new device at all, and the perf tab be blank?
[26-Mar-2008 19:44:59] <MoreDakka> snmp not connecting?
[26-Mar-2008 19:45:02] <locohost> if graphing is working
[26-Mar-2008 19:45:18] <MoreDakka> Have you tried to model the device?
[26-Mar-2008 19:46:56] <locohost> i though it did the model when i added it
[26-Mar-2008 19:47:48] <MoreDakka> I'm not sure about 2.1.3 but just remodel it and see if that pulls up any info (graphs will take at least 10 minutes to show up [2 polling cycles])
[26-Mar-2008 19:48:16] <locohost> i wonder if it has anything to do with me deleting the device group and creating my own hierarchy
[26-Mar-2008 19:48:45] <MoreDakka> Uhh....hmmm, deleted the device group....the device class or device group?
[26-Mar-2008 19:49:00] <MoreDakka> <- didn't know there was a device group
[26-Mar-2008 19:49:16] <locohost> "Organizers"
[26-Mar-2008 19:49:49] <locohost> yeah, classes
[26-Mar-2008 19:50:13] <MoreDakka> Hmm....never deleted that before so I'm not sure what that will do.
[26-Mar-2008 19:50:28] <MoreDakka> There are three other ways to organize it instead of through classes.
[26-Mar-2008 19:50:38] <MoreDakka> systems, locations, groups.
[26-Mar-2008 20:06:43] * aedaemoen cackles
[26-Mar-2008 20:07:39] <locohost> there is a united way poster in my breakroom with 4 little kids on it with the caption "Which one of these children should starve" lol, someone put a sticky note on it saying "This one" witih an arrow to one of them
[26-Mar-2008 20:07:57] <MoreDakka> haha
[26-Mar-2008 20:16:27] * aedaemoen goes about messing around wth zenoss now that its installed
[26-Mar-2008 20:17:06] <TheFRC> haha
[26-Mar-2008 20:17:29] <TheFRC> anyone know where there is some docs on feeding rrd files into zenoss
[26-Mar-2008 20:17:35] <TheFRC> i have a bunch of data I don't want to lose
[26-Mar-2008 20:27:17] * locohost does a clean kickstart of his dev zenoss box because its vexing him
[26-Mar-2008 20:33:17] <MoreDakka> MoreDakka wishes he knew how to turn his txt purple with a * beside it.
[26-Mar-2008 20:34:18] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: type /me actionitem
[26-Mar-2008 20:34:24] * MoreDakka OMG
[26-Mar-2008 20:34:26] <MoreDakka> hehe
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:03] * MoreDakka gets stressed cause his wife is pregnant with 2 weeks to go and my boss wants to send me out of town
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:14] <MoreDakka> Oo....send him out of town.
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:21] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: jeeze.... you and your expectations.... you expect documentation? documentation is for the weak!
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:30] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:40] <aedaemoen> takes getting used to doing emotes with the right grammar
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:56] * MoreDakka nods
[26-Mar-2008 20:36:03] <MoreDakka> yay, that one is correct
[26-Mar-2008 20:36:07] * MoreDakka jumps for joy
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:14] <TheFRC> yes. i expect perfection
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:25] <TheFRC> anything less is uncivilized.
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:30] <TheFRC> and now, midget duty.
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:32] <TheFRC> peace ya'll.
[26-Mar-2008 20:41:29] * MoreDakka waves
[26-Mar-2008 20:45:41] <aedaemoen> lata TheFRC
[26-Mar-2008 20:45:48] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: having fun with emotes?
[26-Mar-2008 20:46:06] * MoreDakka Always has fun doing new stuff
[26-Mar-2008 20:46:26] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 21:08:21] <_LoneCrow> heya moredakka long time no talk.. been no time to play with zenoss we moved to a new system, once that is up I will be focused on implementing zenoss though..
[26-Mar-2008 21:08:52] <_LoneCrow> I was wondering... we have some linux routers, but limited space on the flash. Is it somehow possible to graph people inside the lan with Zenoss, to see if they are using p2p/http etc.. ? Sort of like how bandwidthd does it?
[26-Mar-2008 21:11:39] <_LoneCrow> ahhh crap gotta run
[26-Mar-2008 21:13:08] <aedaemoen> wow.... what an efficient way of getting help... ask for help, run before answered...
[26-Mar-2008 21:13:12] * aedaemoen chuckles
[26-Mar-2008 22:26:37] <aedaemoen> hrum...
[26-Mar-2008 22:26:47] <aedaemoen> anyone know how to do autodiscover of devices in 2.1.3?
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[27-Mar-2008 00:43:32] <johns55> aedaemon: same way you do auto discovery in 2.1.0
[27-Mar-2008 01:46:45] <npmccallum> I want to write a plugin that does action X on event Y... Where do I add such an event handler?
[27-Mar-2008 05:23:31] <__adytum-bot__> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Twisted on Solaris: Fail - 24 Mar, 04:06AM
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[27-Mar-2008 13:17:58] <_LoneCrow> I was wondering... we have some linux routers, but limited space on the flash. Is it somehow possible to graph people inside the lan with Zenoss, to see if they are using p2p/http etc.. ? Sort of like how bandwidthd does it?
[27-Mar-2008 13:29:20] <Funky_> anyone have a reason why I cannot connect to my zenoss dashboard anymore
[27-Mar-2008 13:29:39] <Funky_> all deamons are running... and it was working before I restarted
[27-Mar-2008 13:47:15] <Funky_> removed zeo1-1.zec and did a shutdown -r now and it works... strange
[27-Mar-2008 13:48:22] <TheFRC> negative captain
[27-Mar-2008 13:48:42] * TheFRC chimes in too late
[27-Mar-2008 13:50:31] <locohost> yeah, that seems to happen to everyone at least once
[27-Mar-2008 14:03:01] <nemo_> Funky_, i had to do that earlier
[27-Mar-2008 14:03:21] <nemo_> was expected trouble tho, i symlinked /opt/zenoss to /home/zenoss
[27-Mar-2008 14:03:47] <nemo_> Funky_, shutdown -r is a crime !
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:12] <Funky_>
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:31] * TheFRC uses init 6
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:34] <TheFRC>
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:46] <Funky_> it's a test virtual machine
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:48] <nemo_> why reboot a linux machine because of a service tho
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:03] <TheFRC> because you're used to windows boxes?
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:10] <nemo_> its like those posts in the forum, i rebooted and IT DOESNT WORK !
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:43] <Funky_> actually it was just a zenoss stop then start that stopped it from working
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:43] <nemo_> TheFRC, yes i know its because your used to windows, but its linux, it doesnt need rebooting every 2 minutes
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:49] <Funky_> the machine had an uptime of months
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:00] <TheFRC> no, but sometimes a service can wedge
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:13] <TheFRC> hangs on to a socket, and just plain never lets it go
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:23] <nemo_> thats what kill and lsof are for
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:24] <TheFRC> so you'll never be able to restart the server
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:33] <TheFRC> what if it's zombie?
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:45] <TheFRC> yes yes, you'll have to nice it, then kill it
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:01] <TheFRC> but then you're getting into about 5% of the people who can handle linux boxes
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:22] <nemo_> i guess we could discuss sysadminship all day but its the wrong channel, i will keep quiet ;p
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:55] <TheFRC> it's not like anyone else is trying to desperately get zenoss info
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:58] <TheFRC>
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:21] <nemo_> i noticed its fustrating, if its not a simple unix blunder its dead silence
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:42] <TheFRC> shhh...
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:44] <TheFRC>
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:47] <TheFRC> i'm here now
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:50] <TheFRC> and I never shut up
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:58] <nemo_> ok so tell me about transforms
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:59] <nemo_> ;p
[27-Mar-2008 14:09:25] <TheFRC> i know not of this transforms you speak of
[27-Mar-2008 14:09:36] <Funky_> I have some zenoss questions
[27-Mar-2008 14:09:43] <TheFRC> i haven't actually gotten my zenoss install up yet
[27-Mar-2008 14:10:00] <TheFRC> i'm stuck in cat | grep | sed | grep | sed | sort -u | wc hell
[27-Mar-2008 14:11:55] <Funky_> Whats the best way to let zenoss handle app boot times... if I am exposing attributes via jmx and during the app boot these are not availble... is there a solution to let zenoss know not to monitor during the boot sequence?
[27-Mar-2008 14:14:07] <nemo_> dependancy on ping ?
[27-Mar-2008 14:14:20] <nemo_> if it cant be pinged, dont check services
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:15] <Funky_> it can be pinged... but we run large j2ee web apps that take about a min to start
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:20] <Funky_> and we need to monitor those apps
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:38] <nemo_> ok , dependancy on processes running
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:56] <nemo_> i wouldnt worry bout it anyway, 1 min to start is nada
[27-Mar-2008 14:18:47] <Funky_>
[27-Mar-2008 14:21:43] <_LoneCrow> is it possible for zenoss to monitor and graph remote lan's and the types of traffic they are doing whether http, p2p etc ?
[27-Mar-2008 14:23:00] <nemo_> i dont know _LoneCrow
[27-Mar-2008 14:23:34] <nemo_> perhaps if you already have some kind of qos / rules on your routers, its possible to user there counters and graph it
[27-Mar-2008 14:23:47] <nemo_> but otherwise i cant think how it might be achieved
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:03] <TheFRC> snmp against specific oid's?
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:25] <nemo_> snmpwalk that sucker ;p
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:54] <nemo_> Device Name->OS Manufacturer
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:56] <TheFRC> snmpwalk to get the oid, then snmpget the specific oid for the actual check
[27-Mar-2008 14:25:07] <nemo_> doesnt matter how often i set that field, it gets lost again
[27-Mar-2008 14:25:24] <nemo_> bug? other ppl get that?
[27-Mar-2008 14:27:02] <_LoneCrow> routers are using iptables rules.. I think there are counters too
[27-Mar-2008 14:27:15] <_LoneCrow> but whether they are watching the p2p ports etc I don't know.
[27-Mar-2008 14:27:29] <_LoneCrow> I am still trying to figure out how to do something bandwidthd did without actually using bandwidthd
[27-Mar-2008 16:03:09] <Funky_> anyone have experience with zenjmx?
[27-Mar-2008 16:06:47] <TheFRC> nope, but I will soon.
[27-Mar-2008 16:08:38] <Funky_> hmm... for some reason if I connect with jconsole everything works fine
[27-Mar-2008 16:08:54] <Funky_> but if I use the same credentials with zenjmx I get authentication error
[27-Mar-2008 16:09:42] <Funky_> java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.lang.SecurityException: Authentication failed! Credentials required
[27-Mar-2008 16:10:16] <TheFRC> sounds like a problem with the chair to keyboard adapter
[27-Mar-2008 16:12:59] <Funky_> you mean to say I've miss typed monitorRole/monitorRole123 ?
[27-Mar-2008 16:13:09] <Funky_> in every zProperty area?
[27-Mar-2008 16:13:11] <Funky_> 5 times?
[27-Mar-2008 16:13:33] <Funky_> I've re-installed zenoss also...
[27-Mar-2008 16:14:45] <Funky_> and it works fine when I set up a jmx enabled app with no authenication..
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:04] <Funky_> but as soon as I enable authenication I get this problem and only with zenjmx
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:18] <Funky_> any other jmx clients can connect with the same credentials
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:30] <Funky_> bbkl
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:33] <Funky_> lunch
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[27-Mar-2008 16:45:59] <aedaemoen> hey guys... since i have no way of scrolling back, how do you autodiscover in 2.1.3? the documentation differs between .1 and .3 quite a bit from what im seeing
[27-Mar-2008 16:56:00] <Funky_> aedaemoen, click on networks
[27-Mar-2008 16:56:13] <Funky_> then put a check on the ip ranges you want to auto discover on
[27-Mar-2008 16:56:34] <Funky_> then click the arrow menu thing and choose Discover Devices
[27-Mar-2008 17:10:32] * aedaemoen laughs.
[27-Mar-2008 17:10:37] <aedaemoen> i didnt realize the arrow was a menu.....
[27-Mar-2008 17:10:53] <aedaemoen> i looked all over for that stupid thing, i thought the arrow was just an "order" sort arrow...
[27-Mar-2008 17:14:14] <aedaemoen> Funky_: what happens if you autodiscover on a network again after having done so once, will it cause issues or just add new devices as they are found? (a couple of our machines need to be configured for snmp still)
[27-Mar-2008 17:14:36] <Funky_> I am actually not sure, sorry
[27-Mar-2008 17:14:50] <aedaemoen> cool, at least you got me to that menu i kept looking for, lol
[27-Mar-2008 17:15:12] <aedaemoen> the arrow idea was bad (imo) anyway... most of the times things like that are used for sorting columns
[27-Mar-2008 17:16:37] <Funky_> i agree
[27-Mar-2008 17:17:17] <aedaemoen> i feel so stupid now, lol
[27-Mar-2008 17:17:37] <aedaemoen> i spent hours looking for the darned thing after reading the guide thinking i was just blind or stupid...
[27-Mar-2008 17:17:49] <Funky_> the docs aren't as good as they could be
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:06] <aedaemoen> Funky_: the latest doc is for 2.1.1 and it looks from the screenshots like the ui changed a bit
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:17] <Funky_> I'm actually in the process of evaluating zenoss...
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:17] <aedaemoen> and changes to the ui are things you never want to neglect to note
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:31] <Funky_> I'm somewhat dissapointed with certain aspects of the docs and forums
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:42] <aedaemoen> Funky_: yeap. did you use the source or rpm?
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:50] <Funky_> I've tried both
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:54] <aedaemoen> lol
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:58] <aedaemoen> how far did you get with the rpm?
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:05] <Funky_> worked fine
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:07] <aedaemoen> i used the rpm and found a major major glitch
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:13] <Funky_> which distro?
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:17] <aedaemoen> EL
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:20] <aedaemoen> 4 and 5
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:34] <aedaemoen> in the instructions it simply says install the rpm after installing the deps...
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:35] <Funky_> I've installed the rpm on EL4
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:46] <aedaemoen> ahh, you must not have configured your mysql prior to that
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:58] <aedaemoen> my mysql had already been implemented, so i had a root pw...
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:59] <Funky_> oh you mean with the root password?
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:02] <aedaemoen> yeap
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:05] <Funky_> yeah yeah
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:10] <aedaemoen> took me forever to discover that darned glitch
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:11] <Funky_> i had a fresh install
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:19] <Funky_> yeah the docs are not clear
[27-Mar-2008 17:21:06] <aedaemoen> seems like a pretty good solution, just really bad starting documentation
[27-Mar-2008 17:23:08] <Funky_> i agree, i like the way it allows you to customize everything
[27-Mar-2008 17:23:25] <Funky_> i guess they want you to purchase a support license or something
[27-Mar-2008 17:23:40] <Funky_> so they intentionally leave the docs as last priority
[27-Mar-2008 17:27:25] <johns55> Funky, there are plenty of howtos on the forums by members
[27-Mar-2008 17:27:53] <johns55> giving the instructions on their website, yes, it is not detailed, but this is open source software
[27-Mar-2008 17:28:11] <aedaemoen> johns55: thats not entirely true.
[27-Mar-2008 17:28:27] <johns55> majority of open source software is actively being developed and worked on, you cant expect production/retail support/docs
[27-Mar-2008 17:28:54] <aedaemoen> johns55: you have to realize that as soon as you start going into the "enterprise" edition, you no longer even deserve the title open source.
[27-Mar-2008 17:29:19] <johns55> aedaemoen: i understand but they have both version for you to choose, similar to mysql
[27-Mar-2008 17:29:54] <aedaemoen> as last i checked, according to the website, the enterprse edition has "enhancements" well if it has enhancesments, then thats not opensource :-D thats seperate source branches
[27-Mar-2008 17:29:57] * aedaemoen nods.
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:06] <Funky_> i agree totally
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:07] <aedaemoen> i know. its the same thing that sun is doing now.
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:24] <aedaemoen> the only company i know of that honestly does opensource at least 95% of their code is RH
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:28] <Funky_> I understand that open source software cannot by nature provide everything to everyone
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:39] <Funky_> This HAS to be a bug with ZenJMX
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:48] <Funky_> I do not understand this at all
[27-Mar-2008 17:31:10] <johns55> funky, just download the source tarball and compile manually
[27-Mar-2008 17:31:27] <Funky_> for the plugin?
[27-Mar-2008 17:31:37] <johns55> are you installing zenoss?
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:11] <Funky_> no
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:16] <Funky_> I don't have a problem with zenoss
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:22] <Funky_> it's the zenjmx plugin
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:34] <aedaemoen> i like zenoss so far, i just have a long way to go before im knowledgable on how this stuff works
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:37] <johns55> o ok
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:54] <Funky_> for some reason the credentials never seem to be correct no matter how/where I enter them
[27-Mar-2008 17:33:04] <Funky_> even though I know that they are correct
[27-Mar-2008 17:33:17] <johns55> ok did you install through the zenoss gui?
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:19] <Funky_> i used the zenpack command line tool
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:45] <johns55> try installing through the gui, ive had more success installing zenpacks through there
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:51] <Funky_> hmm
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:59] <Funky_> I could try
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:14] <Funky_> but it seems to work perfectly if I disable authentication for my JMX app
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:21] <Funky_> thats whats so confusing
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:24] <johns55> im running fc8 and have installed el4 zenpacks w/o a hitch
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:41] <Funky_> i can get my data no problem
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:00] <Funky_> as soon as I eneble authentication... doesn't work
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:28] <johns55> where r u entering the credentials
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:49] <Funky_> I've tried it in the Device zProperties
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:58] <Funky_> directly in the template...
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:10] <Funky_> every different combination
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:22] <johns55> ok it should be located in the template
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:28] <Funky_> and this is my 3rd zenoss install with this same problem
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:41] <johns55> however, have you copied your template to local?
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:42] <Funky_> first with the vmware... second on a EL4
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:49] <Funky_> yes I have
[27-Mar-2008 17:39:17] <johns55> have you also tried checking in your custom properties to see if there is a place to enter credentials there?
[27-Mar-2008 17:39:37] <Funky_> you mean the zProperties of the device itself?
[27-Mar-2008 17:39:54] <johns55> no, under more > custom
[27-Mar-2008 17:40:00] <johns55> of the device
[27-Mar-2008 17:40:55] <Funky_> the only value I can change in there is cDateTest
[27-Mar-2008 17:43:08] <johns55> hrm no idea from me then
[27-Mar-2008 17:43:11] <johns55> it should be in your template
[27-Mar-2008 17:43:56] <Funky_> It's very strange...
[27-Mar-2008 17:44:26] <Funky_> johns55, which version of zenoss are you running?
[27-Mar-2008 17:46:44] <johns55> 2.1.2
[27-Mar-2008 17:49:24] <Funky_> and you do connect to authenticated jmx servers?
[27-Mar-2008 18:22:55] <jp10558> Anyone actually get the MySQLMonitor zenpack to work?
[27-Mar-2008 21:19:56] <noos> i'm having a small problem with zenoss. when i run the modeler it correctly stores the OS Make and version numbers. but when i goto the 'edit' tab for that device and hit save that info is reset to ''. is there a way to have the modeler auto add new os/versions to its db ?
[27-Mar-2008 21:24:08] <`m3> nice idea, sorry no apparent solution tho
[27-Mar-2008 21:25:02] <noos> alright. i can live with that. especially for kernel versions it's a nice feature
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:04] <`m3> noos, OS Version
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:04] <`m3> Linux 2.4.21-53.ELsmp
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:16] <`m3> kernel seems to have auto added its self.
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:29] <noos> oh it did ?
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:29] <noos> hm
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:00] <`m3> i changed my snmp view in the snmpd.conf
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:05] <`m3> .1
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:27] <noos> well the modeler comes up with Unknown / Linux 2.6.18-53.el5
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:36] <`m3> and it found a crap load of stuff, installed rpms and such , not all of went in
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:40] <noos> but on the edit page there is no OS Product with that value. so the listbox is empty
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:52] <`m3> that would be right then ..
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> OS Make
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> Unknown
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> OS Version
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> Linux 2.4.21-53.ELsmp
[27-Mar-2008 21:33:01] <noos> so when you hit save on the edit page it's reset
[27-Mar-2008 21:33:13] <`m3> ah yes, i thought i had noticed that
[27-Mar-2008 21:33:28] <`m3> even when i added a group it didnt seem to stick the first time
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[28-Mar-2008 08:17:33] <nemo_> morning
[28-Mar-2008 14:01:48] <jp10558> Anyone actually get the MySQLMonitor zenpack to work?
[28-Mar-2008 14:17:44] <nemo_> i see zenoss monitoring mysql
[28-Mar-2008 14:17:46] <nemo_> so i guess so
[28-Mar-2008 15:25:16] <Funky-> Anyone ever get ZenJMX with authentication to work?
[28-Mar-2008 15:41:03] <nemo_> set the user / pass in zproperties ?
[28-Mar-2008 15:42:41] <Funky-> nemo_, I've tried many many times...
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:05] <Funky-> no matter where I enter the information I always get a credentials required message in the zenjmx log
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:22] <Funky-> I am able to connect with other jmx clients perfectly
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:37] <nemo_> i havnt even tried yet Funky- , not got that far ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:43] <Funky->
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:46] <Funky-> it seems no has
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:53] <Funky-> no one rather
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:05] <nemo_> same as transformations ! but eventually the others will catch up ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:11] <Funky-> I feels like this is a bug
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:19] <Funky-> it
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:46] <nemo_> i think other ppl must be doing ok with it, checked /opt/zenoss/log/?
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:52] <Funky-> I can use zenjmx to connect if I disable authenication on my app server
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:25] <Funky-> i've checked every log
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:45] <Funky-> whats funny is that if I leave authentiction set to TRUE in the zproperties
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:53] <Funky-> and disable it on my app server
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:55] <Funky-> it works!
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:17] <nemo_> funky indeed ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:19] <Funky-> it seems like zenoss totally ignores the switch to set authentication to true
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:42] <nemo_> well i start official zenoss training monday
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:58] <nemo_> so i get to ask the zenoss guys all my remaining questions!
[28-Mar-2008 15:47:25] <Funky-> sounds like fun
[28-Mar-2008 15:47:47] <Funky-> I just wish this worked and i could recomend zenoss to my company (large company)
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:06] <nemo_> was easier for me, i jsut got told to use it \
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:09] <nemo_> large co also
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:27] <Funky-> are you running 2.1.3?
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:31] <nemo_> yes
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:57] <Funky-> and if you go to your jmx template and set authentication to the opposite of what it was and press save... does the change stick?
[28-Mar-2008 15:49:07] <Funky-> or does it go back to it's original value?
[28-Mar-2008 15:49:11] <nemo_> let me check for you
[28-Mar-2008 15:49:14] <Funky-> thanks
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:11] <nemo_> which one
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:14] <Funky-> it's in the jmx data source
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:28] <Funky-> Remote Authentication Information
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:29] <Funky-> Enabled
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:40] <nemo_> i see 4 things under jmx
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:50] <nemo_> Heap Memory, None Heap Memory, etc etc
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:51] <Funky-> heap memory etc?
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:55] <Funky-> click on the first one
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:08] <Funky-> then in there you should see the drop down to enable/disable authentication
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:09] <nemo_> False=default
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:18] <Funky-> try setting it to true
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:22] <Funky-> and saving
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:29] <nemo_> yep seems to stick ok
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:34] <Funky-> now set it back?
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:58] <nemo_> yup stuck again
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:03] <Funky-> .......
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:13] <nemo_> I know , sorry bout that
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:23] <nemo_> would be easier if it flaked on me too ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:40] <Funky-> I don't understand... it did it for me in 3 different installations
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:00] <nemo_> i never touched it, was there in zenpack
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:13] <nemo_> what version of the zenpack did you install ?
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:26] <Funky-> I just installed the zenjmx plugin directly
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:51] <nemo_> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.3-0.el4.x86_64.rpm
[28-Mar-2008 15:54:09] <nemo_> matched to my zenoss version, might be important ...
[28-Mar-2008 15:54:35] <Funky-> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenjmxcollector
[28-Mar-2008 15:54:52] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - ZenJMXCollector - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[28-Mar-2008 15:56:03] <Funky-> Is there a way to easily un-install a zenpack?
[28-Mar-2008 15:56:32] <Funky-> I want to get rid of my current zenjmx pack and install the core zen packs
[28-Mar-2008 15:57:37] <Funky-> i might just re-isntall the whole friggin thing again
[28-Mar-2008 15:58:16] <nemo_> --remove=REMOVEPACKNAME
[28-Mar-2008 15:58:24] <nemo_> so .. zenpack --remove=REMOVEPACKNAME
[28-Mar-2008 15:59:45] <Funky-> ah
[28-Mar-2008 15:59:56] <Funky-> thanks I'll brb
[28-Mar-2008 16:01:07] <jp10558> I have this thread going re the MySQL monitor, and I haven't heard anything - http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=17792 do you all think I should just uninstall that Zenpack and re-install?
[28-Mar-2008 16:01:22] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - MySql Zenpack Code: 1 - Msg: General error (at community.zenoss.com)
[28-Mar-2008 16:02:12] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: let me look and see what I can do....
[28-Mar-2008 16:43:02] <jp10558> Thanks for any help Bulwinkle ...
[28-Mar-2008 17:27:01] <Funky-> nemo_, I just re-isntalled everything from scratch and use the core pack... same problem
[28-Mar-2008 17:34:53] <an0therb0x> help on this error SLES 10 sp1
[28-Mar-2008 17:34:53] <an0therb0x> /usr/bin/python2.4: can't open file '/opt/zenoss/bin/mkzopeinstance.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[28-Mar-2008 17:34:53] <an0therb0x> Unable to create zope instance.
[28-Mar-2008 17:49:14] <nemo_> Funky-, no idea then , sorry !
[28-Mar-2008 17:52:34] <Funky-> my drop down boxes actually stick now though :/
[28-Mar-2008 18:21:36] <nemo_> i have weirdness with this too Funky- , could be the browser
[28-Mar-2008 18:22:30] <Funky-> hmm
[28-Mar-2008 18:26:08] <nemo_> ok beer o clock, nice weekend guy and girls ( hopefully ! )
[28-Mar-2008 18:53:49] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: yeah, I'm not sure exactly how to get that plugin to work.... I can't select any of the monitor points...
[28-Mar-2008 18:55:05] <jp10558> Hmmm
[28-Mar-2008 18:55:16] <jp10558> so it did't work for you either?
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[28-Mar-2008 20:55:21] <aedaemoen> Funky-: how you doing today?
[28-Mar-2008 21:47:40] <Funky-> aedaemoen, well thank you
[28-Mar-2008 22:10:37] <aedaemoen> Funky-: well, i finally got *some* stuff setup, but im still drudging through this whole thing very very slowly, lol
[28-Mar-2008 22:11:19] <aedaemoen> Funky-: happen to be monitoring any linux servers in your environment? if so id love to snag your attention a little bit, as im still a complete novice to the whole monitoring/snmp stuff :-D
[28-Mar-2008 22:14:28] <Funky-> It's pretty simple actually
[28-Mar-2008 22:14:41] <Funky-> if you have any questions I can try to answer them
[28-Mar-2008 22:16:03] <aedaemoen> Funky-: right now, i can see multiple of my machines and such, but no clue how to setup monitoring of actual services and such now
[28-Mar-2008 22:16:17] <aedaemoen> like in our environment, ssh is a crucial component and must be running and working at all times...
[28-Mar-2008 22:16:40] <aedaemoen> yet when i follow through the filesystem link and such it doesnt show any services or anything else... is that because i have to set that stuff up through snmpd.conf or ?
[28-Mar-2008 22:20:50] <Funky-> good question, I might be at the same level as you actually
[28-Mar-2008 22:30:28] <aedaemoen> Funky-: ahh
[28-Mar-2008 22:33:24] <aedaemoen> you find out how to remodel the information based on changes to your snmpd.conf for instance?
[28-Mar-2008 22:42:41] <aedaemoen> ls
[28-Mar-2008 22:42:44] <aedaemoen> oops
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[29-Mar-2008 00:08:02] <aedaemoen> ok, just downloaded the PE2950 zenpack... curious how to make several of my machines use it, since we use almost completely PE2950s
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[30-Mar-2008 07:38:45] <blorbi> hi there
[30-Mar-2008 07:39:14] <blorbi> anyone free for a quicky?
[30-Mar-2008 07:39:34] <blorbi> i'm thinking for using the default snmp of windows
[30-Mar-2008 07:39:49] <blorbi> is it ok or should i use the net-snmp?
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[31-Mar-2008 15:49:30] <blorb> any zen masters here?
[31-Mar-2008 15:56:09] <Bulwinkle> blorb: shoot?
[31-Mar-2008 16:25:23] <blorb> any good links for sms alerting?
[31-Mar-2008 16:54:06] <Funky_> I'm getting an xmlrpc error: failed to post results to server in a daemon log file... anyone ever see this before?
[31-Mar-2008 17:09:39] <aedaemoe2> Funky_: how much luck you having these days?
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[31-Mar-2008 17:33:16] <Funky_> aedaemoen, not much
[31-Mar-2008 17:33:29] <Funky_> for some reason I get one problem after another
[31-Mar-2008 17:35:44] <aedaemoen> Funky_: join the club
[31-Mar-2008 17:36:08] <aedaemoen> i get to try to figure out how to get openmanage and net-snmp setup correctly so i can use a zenpack i found on the page correctly... not having much luck
[31-Mar-2008 17:36:11] <aedaemoen> god i hate snmp right now
[31-Mar-2008 17:36:21] <aedaemoen> (give me a few weeks, ill probably know more than i care to, lol )
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:12] <Funky_> I hate JMX right now
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:55] <aedaemoen> if i find it is needed for us, ill probably join your list of haters :-d
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:55] <aedaemoen> lol
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:57] <aedaemoen> brb
[31-Mar-2008 17:47:38] <Funky_> aedaemoen, well if you use java as a primary lang, you might run into it sooner or later
[31-Mar-2008 18:53:03] <Funky_> anyone know how to handle datasources that return doubles?
[31-Mar-2008 20:06:03] <Funky_> I've come to a conclusion... ZenJMX is one of the most buggy pieces of software ever made
[31-Mar-2008 20:35:31] <idea4gud> is it the reason that since 2 systems are on diff work group we cant do snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:35:49] <aedaemoe1> idea4gud: workgroup has nothing to do wth snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:35:49] <idea4gud> i tried but it says no resp time out
[31-Mar-2008 20:36:04] <aedaemoe1> workgroup and network are not the same, are they on the same subnets?
[31-Mar-2008 20:36:09] <idea4gud> i tried doin ping also it takes forever
[31-Mar-2008 20:36:18] <aedaemoe1> are they on the same subnets.
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[31-Mar-2008 20:37:37] * aedaemoen sighs.
[31-Mar-2008 20:38:07] * aedaemoen really hates trying to help people who dont even bother responding to simple inquiries for further information.
[31-Mar-2008 20:44:55] <idea4gud> aedaomeon:
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:05] <idea4gud> sorry was tryin to figure out the subnet
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:15] <idea4gud> new to linux
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:24] <idea4gud> they are iff
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:28] <idea4gud> different
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:42] <aedaemoen> ok... then are you using a gateway to reach each of them?
[31-Mar-2008 20:46:13] <idea4gud> yes
[31-Mar-2008 20:46:27] <aedaemoen> and the gateway is on both subnets?
[31-Mar-2008 20:48:16] <aedaemoen> the issue you are having is not related to a.) zenoss, or b.)snmpwalk btw. its related directly to your network configuration and lack of network communication between the devices. if the machines are on seperate subnets, then the only way they can communicate is through a gateway that knows of both subnets existence
[31-Mar-2008 20:48:31] <idea4gud> k
[31-Mar-2008 20:48:47] <idea4gud> my windwos box specifically tells me wat is gateway
[31-Mar-2008 20:49:04] <idea4gud> but i do i knw wats the gateway on my centos
[31-Mar-2008 20:49:51] <idea4gud> ok what about this if there is firewall on my subnet which my zenoss server belongs cant i do snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:50:12] <idea4gud> on to the other machines that belong to diff subnet
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:43] <aedaemoen> ... idea4gud is this a home or a corporate network?
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:52] <idea4gud> actually its my lab network
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:55] <aedaemoen> ie: are you doing this professionally, or for personal learning
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:55] <idea4gud> i am student
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:06] <aedaemoen> iow: youre doing this to learn.
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:07] <idea4gud> doin as part time job
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:23] <idea4gud> i am doin for school network
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:28] <aedaemoen> ok...
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:53] <aedaemoen> you said its multi subnetted. you know how subnetting works?
[31-Mar-2008 20:53:14] <idea4gud> not exactly
[31-Mar-2008 20:53:29] <aedaemoen> oi..
[31-Mar-2008 20:53:30] <aedaemoen> lol
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:00] <idea4gud>
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:11] <aedaemoen> idea4gud: dont feel too bad, everyone has to learn
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:19] <idea4gud> so i think since firwall is there i cant do snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:21] <idea4gud> yeah
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:23] <aedaemoen> its just not a good idea to jump in the deep end if you dont at least have a life raft
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:40] <aedaemoen> and right now youre in a networking environment where youre trying to setup things without understanding the basics of how they work
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:48] <idea4gud> yeah
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:50] <aedaemoen> what machines do you have right now
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:58] <aedaemoen> you said a windows box, a firewall, a cent os box
[31-Mar-2008 20:55:10] <idea4gud> i am following the guide of centos
[31-Mar-2008 20:55:13] <aedaemoen> either way, im taking this off the zenoss channel as it would be majorly distracting for others
[31-Mar-2008 20:55:21] <idea4gud> k
[31-Mar-2008 20:57:42] <locohost> you need to open tcp port 161
[31-Mar-2008 20:59:32] <aedaemoen> locohost: does zenoss ignore subnetting and multi subnets?
[31-Mar-2008 21:00:26] <aedaemoen> right now, he has issues with his subnet that are affecting network traffic period
[31-Mar-2008 21:00:49] <locohost> hmm, not sure what exactly you mean
[31-Mar-2008 21:01:24] <aedaemoen> locohost: he cant even reach the machine correctly. before he can bother correcting snmpwalk issues, he has to correct network issues
[31-Mar-2008 21:03:48] <locohost> ahh, yeah, he needs to have routes to all his networks
[31-Mar-2008 21:03:58] <locohost> or use a proxy or something
[31-Mar-2008 21:04:09] <locohost> its pretty easy to configure an snmpd proxy if you need to
[31-Mar-2008 23:22:48] <Ozux> hi, Is there any way to import data from MRTG to ZenOSS?
[31-Mar-2008 23:25:34] <Bulwinkle> Ozux: you probably can if the ZenOSS and MRTG RRD configurations are the exact same. But I don't recommend it
[31-Mar-2008 23:30:02] <Ozux> Bulwinkle, could U express it? (I'm newbie in ZenOSS) we are using multiple Cacti and MRTG in our network and now we want to migrate to ZenOSS for Centralizing and better Monitoring
[31-Mar-2008 23:31:06] <damon> hey all - QQ, i am working on creating an asset report and was looking for a full list of tales device attributes. The one in the admin-guide doesn't seem to be a complete list...
[31-Mar-2008 23:31:21] <cheflog> There is a Cacti plug-in for Zenoss
[31-Mar-2008 23:32:48] <cheflog> Ozux: I'm not a pro with Zenoss, but I actually like Cacti's graphing abilities better
[31-Mar-2008 23:35:54] <damon> The attribute i am trying to find the TAG attribute which is where currently we have our device part numbers. Maybe there is a different/better way to place p/ns?
[31-Mar-2008 23:36:38] <Ozux> I'm wondering is it any way to graph bandwidth usage of each Vhost in apache with Cacti or ZenOSS?
[31-Mar-2008 23:37:31] <damon> Ozux - you may be able to get what you are looking for by creating a sub itnerface on the box
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[01-Mar-2008 14:25:08] <EvilDin> hi, i have question, um why don't i get OS information from Device (i added Device --> SNMP) ?
[01-Mar-2008 14:50:17] <EvilDin> anyone here?
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[03-Mar-2008 13:50:09] <klinstifen> morning...anyone awake in here?
[03-Mar-2008 14:40:42] <klinstifen> anyone in here? i have a quick question about heartbeats
[03-Mar-2008 15:08:09] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: what is your question?
[03-Mar-2008 15:15:05] <ke4qqq> klinstifen, long time no see - how is work coming on the exchange zenpack?
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:27] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: since that upgrade i did last week i am getting heartbeat errors from non existant devices.
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:47] <klinstifen> i'll get hearbeats from "zenossserver.mydomain.com.mydomain.com" and from "localhost"
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:55] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: did you do a zenmigrate?
[03-Mar-2008 15:16:59] <klinstifen> right now my zenoss server is listed in the devices as "localhost"
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:15] <klinstifen> but the heartbeats are for the actual server name...
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:21] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: i did
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:42] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: yeah man, long time now chat. i've been popping on from time to time to see if you are here. i finished that zenpack
[03-Mar-2008 15:17:50] <klinstifen> works pretty well, looks good.
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:02] <aurax> hello anyone around ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:04] <klinstifen> uses wmic to connect with exchange and then greps log info
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:12] <klinstifen> i can send it your way if you want
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:12] <Bulwinkle> stop all services besides zeoctl and do a zenmigrate
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:17] <ke4qqq> yeah I try and hang out and see if you are around, and end up seeing you in history.
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:18] <aurax> i got problems with zenoss - it's not starting
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:23] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: you ever finish that apache zenpack mod?
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:41] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: trying that now
[03-Mar-2008 15:18:53] <ke4qqq> unfortunately no, got distracted by postfix (need to push that out) and postgres......
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:22] <ke4qqq> those are almost ready to be packaged I think
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:32] <ke4qqq> (they have been working pretty well for me)
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:51] <aurax> any idea how to debug it...
[03-Mar-2008 15:19:57] <ke4qqq> aurax, what does it say when you tell it to start
[03-Mar-2008 15:21:15] <aurax> nothing actually... when i restart zenoss it's say's: Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[03-Mar-2008 15:21:40] <aurax> no connection to port 80
[03-Mar-2008 15:21:46] <aurax> nothing else grabs it
[03-Mar-2008 15:22:06] <aurax> can i paste freely here or pastbin ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:22:43] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: migration complete...gonna restart zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:00] <aurax> wow what happend to zenoss site ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:37] <klinstifen> aurax: what do you mean? zenoss.com looks like it has for several months
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:55] <aurax> it's empty of pictures here
[03-Mar-2008 15:23:57] <aurax> just text& css
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:07] <aurax> i think i've forgot to add to zenoss user .bashrc :
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:08] <aurax> export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:08] <aurax> export PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:08] <aurax> export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:49] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: got a heartbeat from servername.mydomain.com.mydomain.com for zenwinmodeler
[03-Mar-2008 15:24:49] <aurax> because when i ps aux i see some using python2.4 and some procs are using python
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:04] <aurax> any idea ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:13] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: *shrug*\
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:29] <klinstifen> lol
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:37] * klinstifen digs deeper
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:53] <klinstifen> ha! went away
[03-Mar-2008 15:25:55] <klinstifen> sigh
[03-Mar-2008 15:27:52] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: mine come and go....
[03-Mar-2008 15:29:06] <aurax> how can i debug those startup problems ?
[03-Mar-2008 15:30:23] <klinstifen> aurax: you could try, from console, zopectl run.
[03-Mar-2008 15:30:35] <klinstifen> that will run it in the foreground and then maybe you'll see what's going wrong
[03-Mar-2008 15:30:54] <aurax> ok
[03-Mar-2008 15:31:22] <aurax> daemon manager running; daemon process not running
[03-Mar-2008 15:32:00] <aurax> it started after i typed 'fg'
[03-Mar-2008 15:32:19] <aurax> when i use the init.d script it won't start..
[03-Mar-2008 15:33:57] <aurax> weird...
[03-Mar-2008 15:38:04] <klinstifen> what user are you when using the init.d script?
[03-Mar-2008 15:49:20] <aurax> root
[03-Mar-2008 15:50:13] <aurax> but i want zenoss to listen to port 80
[03-Mar-2008 15:50:20] <aurax> so it must have root priveleges
[03-Mar-2008 15:53:17] <aurax> or i should use apache with rewritemod engine..
[03-Mar-2008 15:55:20] <aurax> doh... i've changed zope.conf to port 80
[03-Mar-2008 15:55:29] <aurax> that why it didnt start unless i was doing it manually.
[03-Mar-2008 15:55:30] <aurax> oh well.
[03-Mar-2008 15:57:19] <klinstifen> aurax: oh yeah they're site looks messed up now
[03-Mar-2008 16:01:14] <klinstifen> anyone thing zentrap would fail if it thought my zenoss server name was something other than what it was?
[03-Mar-2008 16:07:14] <aurax> so if i want zenoss to run on port 80 i should use apache with rewrite...
[03-Mar-2008 16:11:25] <kgoedtel> that would just let you rewrite to 8080, to actually access it from port 80 you would need something like apache mod_proxy
[03-Mar-2008 16:12:59] <kgoedtel> if zope executes as non-root (zenosss user) it can't use a privileged port (< 1024)
[03-Mar-2008 16:30:37] <aurax> yep, i configured it as is from the doc's
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[03-Mar-2008 18:47:33] <PerlStalker> Why would I get the error "KeyError: 'deviceStatus'" when running zentestcommand?
[03-Mar-2008 18:53:16] <ke4qqq> I have a bonded interface that zenoss is detecting as capable of 10Mb/s. How can I change here.speed?
[03-Mar-2008 19:13:35] <EvilDin> hi, is here anyone ??
[03-Mar-2008 19:13:47] <EvilDin> i need help why my graphs are not shown ?
[03-Mar-2008 19:13:55] <EvilDin> in pref section of server ?
[03-Mar-2008 19:29:35] <twm1010> Anoyone around?
[03-Mar-2008 19:36:46] <EvilDin> it seem that nobody isn't here for quite some time
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:14] <idea4gud> hi guyz help me i am new to this ZENOSS actually using for first tiem
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:14] <idea4gud> also dont hav much idea bt Linux
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:30] <idea4gud> It says i dont hav zopectl zeoctl
[03-Mar-2008 19:38:49] <idea4gud> rest of daemons it starts without complaining
[03-Mar-2008 19:39:23] <idea4gud> and when i try http://myipaddess:8080 it says cant estblish connection
[03-Mar-2008 19:52:33] <EvilDin> probably you don't have port open
[03-Mar-2008 19:55:42] <Brixius> Hello I have a question, I have an event that I'm trying to map, and I want to say when evt.CondSeveraty = 5 it should match, I think I can put this in the rule but when I put it in there, it shows red
[03-Mar-2008 19:56:46] <Brixius> do I need to use "==" instead of "=" When I do it changes to black. but that would seem weird because under transform I only have to use a single = to set a value.
[03-Mar-2008 19:57:20] <Brixius> oh, wait, I think I just got it, is == is a test, not an assignment?
[03-Mar-2008 19:58:23] <Brixius> can someone confirm that for me?
[03-Mar-2008 20:00:16] <idea4gud> hi can any1 elp me
[03-Mar-2008 20:00:38] <idea4gud> I am tryin to run zenoss but it says doesnt hav zeoctl or zopectl
[03-Mar-2008 20:01:58] <PerlStalker> Why would I get the error "KeyError: 'deviceStatus'" when running zentestcommand?
[03-Mar-2008 20:05:36] <EvilDin> anyone know how to get graphs working ?
[03-Mar-2008 20:17:19] <idea4gud> hi wat happnd to the room,
[03-Mar-2008 20:17:40] <idea4gud> can any1 share their knowledge with a newbie like me
[03-Mar-2008 20:18:18] <Brixius> this room is usually really quiet, kindof a shame really
[03-Mar-2008 20:19:39] <idea4gud> i am gettin this wrror wrkin on 3 days
[03-Mar-2008 20:19:43] <idea4gud> no progress
[03-Mar-2008 20:19:50] <idea4gud> i found an some links
[03-Mar-2008 20:20:08] <idea4gud> but since i am new to Linux cant really comprehend
[03-Mar-2008 20:21:52] <Brixius> I wish I could get some help myself, I'm a relitive noob too, one would think event mapping would be documented better, or there would be more tutorials on using the fields, since that's the core of zenoss.
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:09] <idea4gud> k were u able to setup prply
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:13] <idea4gud> with out any hiccups
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:28] <idea4gud> its complains tht i dont hav Zeoctl and Zopectl
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:38] <idea4gud> i am just follwin the installation guide
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:39] <Brixius> I'm using the vmware appliance
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:45] <idea4gud> k
[03-Mar-2008 20:24:53] <idea4gud> so its all done for u
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:08] <idea4gud> so wat OS r u runnin on it
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:32] <Brixius> it's alot easier to use it to figure out how to use it. You can down load vmware player(free) or server(also free) to run the image.
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:42] <idea4gud> i hav Vmware server runnin CENTOS
[03-Mar-2008 20:25:54] <idea4gud> on Centos i am tryin to setup Zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 20:26:02] <Brixius> I'm running a test image on my windows desktop, and a prod image in VMware ESX
[03-Mar-2008 20:26:38] <Brixius> ESX = Not free
[03-Mar-2008 20:33:11] <twm1010> GSX is free tho
[03-Mar-2008 20:33:26] <Brixius> GSX doesn't exist anymore, it's server
[03-Mar-2008 20:50:06] <locohost> can anyone shed any light on http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Zope/Zope-And-MySQL/4/ ?
[03-Mar-2008 20:50:40] <locohost> mine if failing on the part where it displays the results of my querie
[03-Mar-2008 20:52:22] <locohost> tests okay in the zope manager, but the result is blank when i view dtml method
[03-Mar-2008 20:54:44] <Brixius> how do I start individual modules in zenoss? ie zenwin, etc...
[03-Mar-2008 20:57:21] <locohost> wish i could help you. Im having a bit of trouble liking it with mysql
[03-Mar-2008 21:03:59] <locohost> is there anybody out there? just nod if you can here me, is there anyone at home.
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <dtml-var standard_html_header>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <h2>Devices</h2>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <ul>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <dtml-in selectAllMethod>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:26] <locohost> <li><dtml-var name>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:27] <locohost> <br>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:29] <locohost> <font size="-1"><a href="edit?id=<dtml-var id>">edit</a> | <a
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:33] <locohost> href="delete?id=<dtml-var
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:35] <locohost> id>">delete</a></font>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:37] <locohost> <p>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:39] <locohost> </dtml-in>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:41] <locohost> </ul>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:43] <locohost> <a href="add">Add
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:45] <locohost> a new DVD</a>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:47] <locohost> <dtml-var standard_html_footer>
[03-Mar-2008 21:06:56] <locohost> <dtml-var name> does not return anything
[03-Mar-2008 21:07:04] <Brixius> pastebin, use a pastebin, like pastebin.ca
[03-Mar-2008 21:07:59] <locohost> hrm, not sure i follow
[03-Mar-2008 21:09:02] <Brixius> the way it's usually done in irc, is to goto a pastebin site like pastebin.ca, paste your code that your working with there, then post a link to it in the channel
[03-Mar-2008 21:09:29] <Brixius> pastebin will generate a unique short url just for what you pasted
[03-Mar-2008 21:09:51] <locohost> ahh, i got ya, thanks.
[03-Mar-2008 21:10:29] <Brixius> ie http://pastebin.ca/926805
[03-Mar-2008 21:10:36] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Brix's test - post number 926805 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Mar-2008 21:11:15] <Brixius> see then the bot even goes and grabs more info for the channel to see.
[03-Mar-2008 21:17:53] <locohost> If anyone coululd help me with http://pastebin.ca/926821 that would be great.
[03-Mar-2008 21:18:00] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - zope-mysql selectAllMethod not r - post number 926821 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Mar-2008 21:18:02] <locohost> I am sure im doing something simple wrong
[03-Mar-2008 21:19:35] <Brixius> Is this in ZenOSS? or a general zope question?
[03-Mar-2008 21:21:24] <locohost> zenoss
[03-Mar-2008 21:21:42] <locohost> im trying to integrate it with an existing mysql cmdb
[03-Mar-2008 21:22:13] <locohost> are you suggesting that i would have better luck in zope specific forum?
[03-Mar-2008 21:22:41] <Brixius> no, I just wasn't sure. I'm no expert in zenoss myself.
[03-Mar-2008 21:27:35] <locohost> yeah, im pretty good with snmp, but all this zope crap is new
[03-Mar-2008 22:31:09] <bush|werk> hm, how much space should zenoss take up after install? i have less than a gig left with a minimal debian install
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[03-Mar-2008 23:03:06] <wassy121> bush: I got about 583MB in /opt/zenoss. Maybe a small amount more in /home/zenoss as needed.
[03-Mar-2008 23:07:05] <bush|werk> iiiiiinteresting...
[03-Mar-2008 23:07:12] <bush|werk> 3.2GB used
[03-Mar-2008 23:21:37] <wassy121> du -sh /opt/zenoss/*
[03-Mar-2008 23:35:32] <bush|werk> hm
[03-Mar-2008 23:35:33] <bush|werk> opt is empty
[03-Mar-2008 23:52:33] <idea4gud> zenoss doesnt hav zopectl and zeoctl
[03-Mar-2008 23:52:37] <idea4gud> any suggestions
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[04-Mar-2008 14:16:54] <locohost> anyone know how i can reference my current host within dtml? ${device/id} does not seem to work.
[04-Mar-2008 15:31:53] <Bulwinkle> Anyone know how to make it so that if one of my interfaces goes down I get an alert?
[04-Mar-2008 15:39:57] <twm1010> Well does an event get generated when it goes down?
[04-Mar-2008 15:41:46] <locohost> mayby a cron on the host that watches all the zenoss processes?
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:39] <locohost> var2=`snmpwalk myip -c community host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName|grep -i processname|awk '{print $3}'|sed 's/"//g'`
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:40] <locohost> if [ $var2 = "processname" ]; then
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:40] <locohost> echo $var2
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:41] <locohost> else
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:43] <locohost> echo $var2
[04-Mar-2008 15:49:45] <locohost> cat ~/notrunning/warning | mail -s 'myprocess is not running' phonenumber@providor
[04-Mar-2008 16:04:08] <Bulwinkle> twm1010: nope... There is a t1 with monitor set to true and it isn't generating event (its down)...
[04-Mar-2008 16:19:59] <btsteve> I am trying to setup zenoss to monitor my network. I have it up and running and several servers entered into the system. It seemed to graph for a few hours and now it has stopped graphing the ethernet ports on my boxes. Can anyone tell me where to look to start solving this issue? Thanks
[04-Mar-2008 16:21:25] <locohost> verify that you can manually snmpwalk that data
[04-Mar-2008 16:21:58] <locohost> im kinda new to zenoss myself, but you could look through /opt/zenoss/log/ for stuff that looks bad
[04-Mar-2008 16:22:15] <locohost> you could look in the rrd's to see if they contain data
[04-Mar-2008 16:23:03] <btsteve> ok let me try the snmp walk. So far the logs do not look like there is anything bad in them.
[04-Mar-2008 16:23:20] <locohost> sudo rrdtool dump /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/vm01-locohost.locodomain/os/interfaces/eth0/ifInErrors_ifInErrors.rrd|grep -v NaN
[04-Mar-2008 16:23:40] <locohost> you could do something like that to look at the rrd file that makes the ifinerror graphs for device vm01-locohost.locodomain
[04-Mar-2008 16:24:16] <locohost> you probably want eth0/ifInOctets_ifInOctets.rrd
[04-Mar-2008 16:24:37] <btsteve> rddtool command not found.
[04-Mar-2008 16:27:05] <locohost> /opt/zenoss/bin/rrdtool
[04-Mar-2008 16:27:19] <locohost> probably not pathed in your bashrc
[04-Mar-2008 16:31:58] <klinstifen> morning
[04-Mar-2008 16:32:10] <klinstifen> anyone know how to resolve "not in topology" errors?
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:25] <klinstifen> i'm getting a critical one that says my zenoss server isn't in the topology and that the network topology will be ignored
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:29] <btsteve> Ok i ran the rrdtool dump and it spit back what looks like a bunch of html/xml
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:32] <klinstifen> then it says all of my devices aren't in the topology
[04-Mar-2008 16:34:51] <klinstifen> repeats every second : (
[04-Mar-2008 16:35:37] <klinstifen> err sorry twice a min
[04-Mar-2008 16:35:40] <klinstifen> but still : (
[04-Mar-2008 16:40:52] <klinstifen> btsteve: what are you trying to do?
[04-Mar-2008 16:41:32] <btsteve> Get my graphs working. I just saw in my logs the same topology error so i am trying to research it.
[04-Mar-2008 16:42:38] <klinstifen> what kind of graphs are you doing?
[04-Mar-2008 16:44:10] <locohost> btsteve: look at the lines that look like this: <!-- 2008-02-15 05:00:00 EST / 1203069600 --> <row><v> 0.0000000000e+00 </v></row>
[04-Mar-2008 16:44:27] <locohost> see if your rrd is being updated
[04-Mar-2008 16:46:57] <btsteve> No they all saw the 28 and 29 that is when i set up the system
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:17] <klinstifen> are these oid or command graphs?
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:30] <btsteve> i guess they are oid
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:38] <btsteve> i am a bit new to snmp
[04-Mar-2008 16:47:51] <locohost> none of the zenoss services stopped running since you had it working?
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:18] <btsteve> the box has been rebooted i have zenoos set to start at boot time.
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> Zenoss builds an internal network-topology map for several of its functions.
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> It is recommended that you first run "zendisc run --routers" so that, for one
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> thing, zenping will be happy from the beginning. If you don't, you'll get thousands
[04-Mar-2008 16:48:27] <locohost> of "Network xxxx not in topology" in your logs. (Don't forget to rotate the logs
[04-Mar-2008 16:49:25] <btsteve> in the daemons section of zenoss it shows the zenhub stopped.
[04-Mar-2008 16:49:30] <klinstifen> loco: this issue just came about after going from 2.1.2 to 2.1.71
[04-Mar-2008 16:50:11] <locohost> sudo /etc/init.d/zenoss status says everything is happy, steve?
[04-Mar-2008 16:51:44] <btsteve> http://pastebin.com/m40cf1893
[04-Mar-2008 16:51:51] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:31] <btsteve> i also tried running the zendisc this is what i got
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:31] <btsteve> zendisc --run routers
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:33] <btsteve> zendisc --run routers
[04-Mar-2008 16:52:56] <btsteve> line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[04-Mar-2008 16:55:16] <locohost> can you start zenhub, im not even sure what zenhub does, but it should be running
[04-Mar-2008 16:56:30] <btsteve> ok it wont stay started
[04-Mar-2008 16:56:42] <locohost> looks like zenhub has to do with the data collection and rrd's some how
[04-Mar-2008 16:57:16] <locohost> it will tell you all the pids that are running, and not touch them, does it fail for just zenhub?
[04-Mar-2008 16:57:19] <locohost> what exactly does it say?
[04-Mar-2008 16:58:05] <btsteve> shows a pid and then if you click on the daemons tab again it does not show a pid, and doing a status shows it not running
[04-Mar-2008 16:59:40] <btsteve> ok is i try starting it from the cli i get this http://pastebin.com/m316e6049
[04-Mar-2008 16:59:48] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-Mar-2008 17:00:58] <klinstifen> btsteve: do a zenoss stop
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:11] <klinstifen> and then rm $ZENHOME/var/zenhub-1.zec
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:14] <klinstifen> then zenoss start
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:22] <klinstifen> zenhub will probably stay running after that
[04-Mar-2008 17:01:53] <locohost> do any of you know how to reference the current device id in a dtml script?
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:10] <btsteve> no
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:14] <klinstifen> are you calling the script from zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:20] <locohost> yes
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:22] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:24] <klinstifen> it's...
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:37] <locohost> it connects to a sql db pulls up cmdb data for that device
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:51] <locohost> i got it working, but im passing the argument manually, like hte device id in quotes
[04-Mar-2008 17:02:56] <klinstifen> $devname
[04-Mar-2008 17:03:10] <btsteve> ok looks like the process is running now
[04-Mar-2008 17:03:17] <klinstifen> btsteve: cool
[04-Mar-2008 17:03:37] <klinstifen> locohost: $devname should give you what you want
[04-Mar-2008 17:04:52] <locohost> ill try that in a sec, i was doing like ${device/id} and here/id and those were not working there.
[04-Mar-2008 17:05:58] <locohost> do you guys know why database administrators make bad house guests?
[04-Mar-2008 17:06:06] <btsteve> no
[04-Mar-2008 17:06:17] <locohost> because they might take a dump on your table.
[04-Mar-2008 17:06:40] <btsteve> lol
[04-Mar-2008 17:07:10] <klinstifen> *shakes head
[04-Mar-2008 17:07:42] <locohost> has anyone else noticed that zenoss runs like crap in a vm
[04-Mar-2008 17:08:54] <locohost> steve, are you getting any new dates in your rrds?
[04-Mar-2008 17:09:06] <btsteve> Let me seen
[04-Mar-2008 17:09:07] <btsteve> Let me see
[04-Mar-2008 17:10:42] <btsteve> dont see any in there
[04-Mar-2008 17:13:42] <klinstifen> btsteve: have they ever worked?
[04-Mar-2008 17:14:49] <locohost> there are values in your rrds, correct, just not new ones, i think he said it stopped after a restart
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:24] <klinstifen> oh ok
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:26] <btsteve> nope no dates on that one
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:49] <klinstifen> can you snmpwalk to that oid from the console?
[04-Mar-2008 17:17:59] <locohost> so, it never worked then. Didnt you say that it was working at first?
[04-Mar-2008 17:18:42] <btsteve> it worked for a few hours.
[04-Mar-2008 17:19:11] <locohost> maybe i pointed you at the wrong rrd file.
[04-Mar-2008 17:19:48] <locohost> your looking at ifInOctets_ifInOctets.rrd for eth0?
[04-Mar-2008 17:19:53] <louish> Hi all. I download the latest vmware image on zenoss. And it worked, but I wanted to give it a static ipaddy. I can't the settings in ipcfg-eth0, and the ipaddys changed now, but i can't get http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:8080 it just sits there waiting for ...... Have I missed another file that needed changing?
[04-Mar-2008 17:20:27] <locohost> should be able to edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
[04-Mar-2008 17:20:47] <louish> that is the file that I edited.
[04-Mar-2008 17:20:51] <btsteve> ok on that one i see a date of today at noon
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:03] <locohost> then restart network
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:17] <louish> I restarted as well.
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:18] <zaf> locohost, runs fine for me in a VM
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:20] <locohost> or run the ifup script
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:48] <louish> I can ssh to the "new" ip address okay. I just can't get to zenoss by http.
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:54] <locohost> one of my test boxes is vmwareserver 1.4, havent tried it in esx
[04-Mar-2008 17:21:56] <btsteve> i see graph lines !!!!
[04-Mar-2008 17:22:04] <louish> the web page will not load.
[04-Mar-2008 17:22:13] <louish> since I changed the ipaddress.
[04-Mar-2008 17:23:15] <klinstifen> btsteve: nice!
[04-Mar-2008 17:23:43] <btsteve> Ok i am sure i have some other questions, i will let it run for a while and test it. Thanks
[04-Mar-2008 17:25:58] <locohost> what is the zen equiv of httpd.conf?
[04-Mar-2008 17:26:20] <zaf> ah. i use XenSource
[04-Mar-2008 17:26:32] <locohost> maybe there is something there about the if it listens on
[04-Mar-2008 17:27:20] <louish> Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. but right now I can't king httpd.conf anywhere.
[04-Mar-2008 17:31:18] <locohost> you sure your trying to hit 8080 on the new ip?
[04-Mar-2008 17:31:32] <louish> yes,
[04-Mar-2008 17:32:06] <louish> I think there is another setting that needs to be changed when one wants to change the ipaddy
[04-Mar-2008 17:32:56] <louish> but where? I can't find anything listed in the faq's. And I'm having issues downloading the zenoss admin guide,(web site is timeing out.)
[04-Mar-2008 17:33:27] <locohost> you try kicking zenoss after you changed the ip?
[04-Mar-2008 17:34:12] <louish> that was the plan..
[04-Mar-2008 17:39:41] <locohost> can you wget localhost:8080
[04-Mar-2008 17:40:19] <louish> I just deleted the vmware image and redid it. I'm now back into zenoss.
[04-Mar-2008 17:40:44] <louish> I edited the file again, and restart the network and this time it works.
[04-Mar-2008 17:45:20] <locohost> <dtml-in expr="grabdata(cmdb_name='$devname')"> does not seem to work klinstifen. if put the device name between the single quotes manually, it works
[04-Mar-2008 17:52:57] <locohost> the immediate parent object would be the device name, can i reference it that way?
[04-Mar-2008 18:17:23] <locohost> anyone have any other ideas about getting the device name in a dtml script run from zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 18:34:33] <klinstifen> $devname didn't work?
[04-Mar-2008 18:36:44] <locohost> no
[04-Mar-2008 18:36:50] <locohost> dev name is not defined
[04-Mar-2008 18:37:08] <locohost> someone suggested something like this: <dtml-let devname="this().getId()"> but that is not working either
[04-Mar-2008 18:37:28] <klinstifen> where are you calling this script?
[04-Mar-2008 18:37:59] <locohost> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/server01/viewcmdb
[04-Mar-2008 18:38:33] <locohost> its not really on localhost, not that that matters, but im using an ssh tunnel
[04-Mar-2008 18:39:17] <klinstifen> is this a template?
[04-Mar-2008 18:39:41] <locohost> no, i made it
[04-Mar-2008 18:40:22] <klinstifen> no i mean...where is it being called? is it part of a performance template, is it a command...
[04-Mar-2008 18:41:03] <locohost> my plan was to link it to the hardware tab, but im currently browsing to it
[04-Mar-2008 18:42:04] <klinstifen> what output does it give you?
[04-Mar-2008 18:42:46] <locohost> its getting an empty set, like its not passing any argument
[04-Mar-2008 18:43:25] <locohost> if i replace <dtml-in expr="grabdata(cmdb_name=devname)"> with name='server01' it works
[04-Mar-2008 18:46:21] <locohost> its like <dtml-let devname="this().getId()"> is not finding anything so its setting devname to nil
[04-Mar-2008 18:46:38] <klinstifen> ohhh ok
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:24] <locohost> im so close to having this work, lol. This last part and then its just graphical stuff
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:38] <klinstifen> what will it show you?
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:42] <klinstifen> what info are you after?
[04-Mar-2008 18:47:55] <klinstifen> err what does your script do?
[04-Mar-2008 18:48:13] <locohost> when i nagigate to a device in zenoss, it will display all the info for that device out of an existing mysql cmdb that i already have
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:20] <locohost> maybe im not being clear.
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:52] <locohost> im doing
[04-Mar-2008 18:54:52] <locohost> <dtml-in expr="grabdata(cmdb_name='server01')"> and that works, send me (select * from cmdb_device where name = 'server01';)
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[04-Mar-2008 18:55:29] <locohost> except, all my devbices are not named server01, so i need it to pull off the device im looking at, or parent object or something
[04-Mar-2008 18:56:45] <selfish> so...
[04-Mar-2008 18:56:47] <selfish> hi
[04-Mar-2008 18:57:02] <selfish> zenoss looks pretty cool
[04-Mar-2008 18:57:18] <locohost> or maybe its queriing sql for a server named this().getId()
[04-Mar-2008 18:58:07] <selfish> I think I'm going to like it, but I see some deficiencies
[04-Mar-2008 18:58:40] <locohost> buggar, i have a meeting for the next hour or so, thanks for the help guys, ill be back in a bit
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:11] <selfish> but zenoss isn't really open source, correct?
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:25] <klinstifen> what do you mean?
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:31] <selfish> the devs aren't begging for patches like other projects
[04-Mar-2008 19:04:48] <klinstifen> blink, blink
[04-Mar-2008 19:05:07] <selfish> i was looking at the site, and everything says contribute documentation
[04-Mar-2008 19:05:11] <selfish> or did i miss something?
[04-Mar-2008 19:05:46] <Teecee> Hey guys, I am looking into monitoring my network and some DBs and have been spending some time reading about cacti and zenoss. I am wondering if someone could compare the two for me. All of my network gear is Cisco with a mix of linux/windows servers.
[04-Mar-2008 19:06:56] <klinstifen> i don't know what you are asking...it's open source. we can all modify it
[04-Mar-2008 19:09:22] <Teecee> just wondering if there were any differences besides looks? Does one have more plugins than the other? Which one has a bigger user community? Which one is the most flexible? What about ease of use?
[04-Mar-2008 19:09:42] <selfish> meh, maybe i don't know either
[04-Mar-2008 19:11:13] <selfish> okay, so anyway, i have a question...
[04-Mar-2008 19:11:40] <selfish> The first device I added was my core router and zenoss started polling everything in the route table
[04-Mar-2008 19:11:59] <selfish> but I don't want that, is there a way to direct the auto-discovery to certain subnets?
[04-Mar-2008 19:12:16] <selfish> and by polling i meant auto-discovery polling
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:41] <klinstifen> you could turn off auto-discoverty
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:44] <klinstifen> *discovery
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:48] <klinstifen> then add a network manually
[04-Mar-2008 19:15:50] <klinstifen> and just scan that
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:10] <klinstifen> teecee: cacti has been around longer so i would think the community is bigger
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:15] <klinstifen> and thus has more pluggins
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:31] <klinstifen> but it is targetted towards network devices and zenoss is for a larger infrastructure
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:38] <klinstifen> servers, network equip, etc
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:50] <klinstifen> although both work off of rrd so i guess the compatibility is the same
[04-Mar-2008 19:16:55] <klinstifen> zenoss takes nagios pluggins
[04-Mar-2008 19:17:00] <klinstifen> so i guess that's a one up on cacti
[04-Mar-2008 19:17:13] <klinstifen> depends on what you want to do, Teecee
[04-Mar-2008 19:17:15] <Teecee> when you say take nagios plugins, can you go into detail?
[04-Mar-2008 19:18:14] <Teecee> I want to monitor traffic of vlans, certain ports on my switches, wireless associations with my access points, server cpu, memory, hdd, sql and mysql db connections, maybe some printer status like if a printer is jamed or what not
[04-Mar-2008 19:18:35] <selfish> I've used tons of monitoring apps, and fwiw I think I like zenoss the best so far
[04-Mar-2008 19:18:53] <selfish> nagios is stagnating and catci is like Mr Johnson's 8th grade project
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:02] <Teecee> lol selfish
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:21] <klinstifen> teecee, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/?searchterm=nagios
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:22] <selfish> and Director was developed by Satan himself
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Mar-2008 19:19:50] <klinstifen> yeah nagios isn't so hot
[04-Mar-2008 19:20:13] <selfish> it's functionally sound, but man, it hasn't been updated in AGES
[04-Mar-2008 19:20:19] <klinstifen> i used hyperic and zenoss is much better
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:02] <selfish> I was hoping that I could do directed auto-discovery, like WUG.
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:11] <Teecee> so can I monitor all of those things I mentioned?
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:18] <selfish> I enter my list of subnets and it scans nightly for new IP's
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:28] <klinstifen> selfish, you just have to do it a bit more manually
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:30] <klinstifen> still be targeted
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:34] <klinstifen> you pick subnet and say "go"
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:40] <selfish> cool
[04-Mar-2008 19:21:53] <klinstifen> teecee, most of them. some will require effort on your part
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:01] <selfish> Teecee: anything that can be monitored with snmp, wmi, dcom... perl, batch...
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:05] <selfish> I could keep going
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:28] <selfish> yeah, some require you to actually do some work *gasp*
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:47] <Teecee> when you say effort on my part, does that mean creating my own code, or just configing some plugin or addon on the client?
[04-Mar-2008 19:22:58] <klinstifen> wha?!
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:21] <Teecee> because I am not a programmer, and am not profecient enough in linux to write my own code, I spend most of my day with routers, switches, etc
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:26] <klinstifen> yeah, you may have to code
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:39] <selfish> it depends how crazy you want to get
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:39] <klinstifen> there are a lot of pluggins
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:45] <klinstifen> well you could always learn and then write some
[04-Mar-2008 19:23:52] <selfish> that's crazy talk
[04-Mar-2008 19:25:05] <Teecee> is there a site that has a lot of zenoss plugins?
[04-Mar-2008 19:26:01] <selfish> i thought you said you spent some time reading...
[04-Mar-2008 19:26:41] <Teecee> lol
[04-Mar-2008 19:29:08] <Teecee> cacti and nagios plugins are easy to find, zenoss not so much
[04-Mar-2008 19:29:53] <Teecee> like for cacti and nagios just hit their forums and find tons of plugins
[04-Mar-2008 19:29:59] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Mar-2008 19:30:08] <klinstifen> i think the zenoss community is still developing in that regard
[04-Mar-2008 19:36:53] <klinstifen> teecee, kidding aside i am pretty happy with it and will continue using it for a while
[04-Mar-2008 19:37:02] <klinstifen> has already helped me with a variety of issues
[04-Mar-2008 19:42:49] <Teecee> such as?
[04-Mar-2008 19:43:40] <klinstifen> detecting dictionary attack, bandwidth bottle necks, down printer queues, exchange server overload, network outagages, service/process crashes
[04-Mar-2008 19:44:48] <kgoedtel> teecee can use nagios plugins....
[04-Mar-2008 19:44:54] <kgoedtel> err zenoss can
[04-Mar-2008 19:45:23] <selfish> it cured my aids!
[04-Mar-2008 19:45:40] <kgoedtel> wow!
[04-Mar-2008 19:46:18] <Teecee> so with that link you sent me I can pretty much convert any nagios plugin to zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:06] <Teecee> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/?searchterm=nagios
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:08] <Teecee> that one
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:31] <Teecee> ty adytum-bot
[04-Mar-2008 19:47:41] <selfish> so I tuned off auto-disco, but how do I remove the 400 pages of subnets it discovered?
[04-Mar-2008 19:50:09] <klinstifen> selfish: go to networks menu. select the first check-box, hold down shift, select last check-box. select delete networks from drop down
[04-Mar-2008 19:50:58] <selfish> maybe that's why i'm confused, my dropdown box has numbers in it
[04-Mar-2008 19:51:13] <selfish> 167863552
[04-Mar-2008 19:51:43] <selfish> aah, THAT drop down box
[04-Mar-2008 19:51:46] <selfish> nm
[04-Mar-2008 20:09:00] <wassy121> Hello there. I have a dual-NIC bonded setup (under bond0) that zenoss is misdetecting the speed of. It says it is a 10MB link, when it is really 2 x 1000MB links bonded. So, I get incorrect threshold errors.
[04-Mar-2008 20:09:09] <wassy121> How can I change the speed of an interface device?
[04-Mar-2008 20:09:42] <wassy121> http://ZENOSS/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/HOSTNAME/os/interfaces/bond0/viewIpInterface doesn't have any place to edit the speed.
[04-Mar-2008 20:10:18] <wassy121> (basically, it screams at me when we do our DB copies between machines hitting 12-15 MB/s).
[04-Mar-2008 20:15:22] <johns55> anyone have a problem with scrolling down in event history?
[04-Mar-2008 20:17:29] <locohost> i would say cacti is more geared to trending and graphing, and zenoss is more of a console for your noc to watch
[04-Mar-2008 20:32:40] <locohost> klin, you still around?
[04-Mar-2008 20:33:39] <idea4gud> i installed zenoss 1.2.7 but it didnt had zeoctl and zopectl libs
[04-Mar-2008 20:34:05] <idea4gud> so i erased and wanna install zenoss1.2.2 bu it complains that name conflict appears
[04-Mar-2008 20:34:22] <idea4gud> any suggestion how do i install the other version
[04-Mar-2008 20:34:39] <klinstifen> loco: yeah
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:01] <klinstifen> idea: current version is 2.1.2
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:28] <idea4gud> k my bad its 2.1.2
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:55] <locohost> im still not getting anywhere with referencing the devname in my dtml, i was wondering if maybe you had any other ideas, or have any idea what mistake i may be makiung
[04-Mar-2008 20:35:55] <wassy121> how did you erase?
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:06] <idea4gud> but then does it hav the req libs which 2.1.71 misses
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:17] <idea4gud> rpm -e zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:53] <klinstifen> i haven't done any dtml stuff
[04-Mar-2008 20:36:57] <klinstifen> did you use a guide?
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:01] <idea4gud> i am new to linux using centos so any stupid qn pardon me
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:19] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:32] <wassy121> idea: you need to completely remove the zenoss installation, it seems to be messed up. rpm -qa | grep zen
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:39] <wassy121> that will show you all the zen packages installed.
[04-Mar-2008 20:37:49] <idea4gud> given on website as well hav installation packages
[04-Mar-2008 20:38:29] <wassy121> You may need to run 'rpm -e --noscripts zenoss-zenpacks-. . . ' if the zenoss main package is not installed. It has some scripts in the preun/postun that rely on zenoss running.
[04-Mar-2008 20:39:25] <idea4gud> wassy: do i do rpm -qa grep ZEN from any where or from the folder where i have saved the zenoss.rpm
[04-Mar-2008 20:40:08] <locohost> rpm -qa|grep -i ZEN so you dont get thrown off by the case
[04-Mar-2008 20:40:33] <locohost> from anywhere
[04-Mar-2008 20:40:47] <wassy121> idea: anywhere. the 'rpm' command is a base part of CentOS, and just reads the database of installed packages from /var/lib/rpm
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:03] <wassy121> That command just checks to see if the package is installed in the RPM database.
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:05] <idea4gud> thnx it returns 2 entries zenity-2.16. and zenoss-2.17.el5
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:20] <wassy121> yeah, which means you have zenoss 2.17 installed still.
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:30] <wassy121> Which is why the other RPM won't install.
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:36] <locohost> so, rpm -e zenoss-2.17.el5 "should" do it
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:43] <locohost> with sudo, or as root
[04-Mar-2008 20:41:44] <wassy121> ./agree
[04-Mar-2008 20:43:21] <louish> Hi all. I have the latest zenoss installed. And I've discovered my subnet, but I have quite a few devices that don't have snmp enabled or not installed. Would it be better to "install/enable" snmp for monitoring?
[04-Mar-2008 20:43:32] <idea4gud> it says %preun(zenoss) scriplet failer exit 1
[04-Mar-2008 20:43:52] <idea4gud> i did this b4 got the same respomse
[04-Mar-2008 20:44:11] <selfish> louish: only if you want to monitor those devices...
[04-Mar-2008 20:44:26] <wassy121> So, that is your problem. It runs the scripts, and fails and thus can't remove the package.
[04-Mar-2008 20:44:36] <wassy121> Try 'rpm -e --noscripts zenoss-2.17.el5'
[04-Mar-2008 20:49:59] <selfish> what protocol is used for auto-disco?
[04-Mar-2008 20:50:13] <selfish> is it just an icmp sweep?
[04-Mar-2008 20:50:26] <louish> selfish, Yes, I do. I have a few "linux's" here that I want to monitor. I'm just trying to figure out what needs to be done. Is there an agent. or can I just install smnpd and set it for public read
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:03] <selfish> yes then, you need to install net-snmp and net-snmp-utils
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:18] <selfish> and don't do public, make a community string
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:23] <selfish> slacker
[04-Mar-2008 20:51:27] <louish> ?
[04-Mar-2008 20:56:34] <idea4gud> hi even 2.1.2 complains that it doens hav zeoctl or zopectl
[04-Mar-2008 20:56:48] <idea4gud> i mean it says no such directory found
[04-Mar-2008 20:57:24] <locohost> lou: sudo yum install net-snmp net-snmp-utils
[04-Mar-2008 20:57:47] <locohost> then clear out the /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf and enter just "rocommunity mycommunity" in the conf
[04-Mar-2008 20:57:55] <locohost> that will get you going with the most basic config possible
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:23] <locohost> you could do rocommunity mycommunity <nms ip> .1.3
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:25] <locohost> if you wanted to
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:30] <wassy121> idea: what is the error it posts?
[04-Mar-2008 20:58:36] <locohost> to restrict polling to just your nms station
[04-Mar-2008 20:59:20] <idea4gud> wassy; zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bn/zenoss line 99: no such file or dir found
[04-Mar-2008 20:59:29] <locohost> if you want zenoss to see the disks, you will need to ad "disk /" "disk /var" and so on on single lines to your snmpd.conf
[04-Mar-2008 20:59:38] <idea4gud> wassy; zopectl /opt/zenoss/bn/zenoss line 99: no such file or dir found
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:04] <wassy121> idea: what command are you running to get that error?
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:46] <locohost> idea, i had a similar problem, and i copied a few files over from a working install
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/bin/runzeo 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/bin/runzeo
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <locohost> sudo scp /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl 10.11.2.20:/opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[04-Mar-2008 21:00:56] <idea4gud> just startin the service as per thei nstruction given on the doc for el5 notes
[04-Mar-2008 21:01:22] <locohost> is what i did from the machine with the working zenoss, dont mind the private ip of my zenoss server
[04-Mar-2008 21:01:39] <idea4gud> but i dont hav any wrkin machine with zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 21:02:35] <wassy121> idea: you are running /etc/init.d/zenoss start, and it is kicking back those errors?
[04-Mar-2008 21:03:17] <wassy121> can you paste the output (less than 4 lines please) into IRC?
[04-Mar-2008 21:03:27] <wassy121> More than 4 lines, send it to pastebin.ca or something.
[04-Mar-2008 21:03:42] <wassy121> And if it _EXACTLY_ 4 lines. Don't do anything.
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:13] <wassy121> (/joke)
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:18] <idea4gud> k
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:26] <locohost> idea, its opt/bin/zenoss., right? not bn
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:32] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:04:34] <idea4gud> bin
[04-Mar-2008 21:05:04] <locohost> does /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl exist on the machine?
[04-Mar-2008 21:05:43] <wassy121> You aren't supposed to run /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss directly.
[04-Mar-2008 21:05:58] <wassy121> It should be called from '/etc/init.d/zenoss start'
[04-Mar-2008 21:06:18] <wassy121> Make sure no other zen processes are running - 'ps auxww | grep -i zen'
[04-Mar-2008 21:06:35] <selfish> wtf is ww on ps?
[04-Mar-2008 21:06:46] <wassy121> wtf do those acronymns mean?
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:11] <locohost> wide output?
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:42] <selfish> oh, were you being serious wassy121? You're the one that typed it...
[04-Mar-2008 21:07:43] <wassy121> Ah, that is what you meant
Yeah, one 'w' gives you past 80 columns. 2 'w's give you multiple lines.[04-Mar-2008 21:07:58] <selfish> aah, ok
[04-Mar-2008 21:08:31] <wassy121> I thought you were using some interweb slang and using 'ww' and 'ps' as acronymns.
[04-Mar-2008 21:08:50] <selfish> heh, i try to stay away from the intarwebz
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:00] <locohost> wassy, i wasnt suggesting he run /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss, i was respponding to his error "zopectl /opt/zenoss/bn/zenoss line 99"
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:05] <selfish> it's all just a fad anyway...
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:13] <locohost> line 99 is trying to call /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:20] <locohost> wwhich, sounds like does not exist on his box
[04-Mar-2008 21:09:55] <wassy121> Well, it is technically a function that is used to call most the daemons (not just zeoctl) on line 99.
[04-Mar-2008 21:10:54] <locohost> yeah, but its failing on zopectl
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:14] <klinstifen> loco: did you follow a guide for you dtml stuff?
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:34] <idea4gud> emon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:34] <idea4gud> file or directory
[04-Mar-2008 21:11:34] <idea4gud> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[04-Mar-2008 21:12:16] <idea4gud> took ages to copy and paste as new in linux
[04-Mar-2008 21:12:26] <locohost> yeah, as far as the guide went anyway, i the thing im trying to do not specifically is not in a guide that i could find
[04-Mar-2008 21:12:37] <locohost> i cant to call the name of the objects container
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:28] <locohost> when i run http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/admin01.cluster.domain/viewcmdb, viewcmdb needs to know the device name is admin01.cluster.domain
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:36] <klinstifen> loco: if you could reference what you did then i might be able to help
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:37] <locohost> same with admin02, and so on
[04-Mar-2008 21:13:47] <locohost> k,ill put it in a pastie
[04-Mar-2008 21:14:36] <klinstifen> how did you creat viewcmdb
[04-Mar-2008 21:15:20] <locohost> selected new dtml object from the drop down in zope
[04-Mar-2008 21:16:21] <locohost> idea, im pretty sure your missing hte 4 files i mentioned
[04-Mar-2008 21:18:46] <klinstifen> loco: doc or method?
[04-Mar-2008 21:19:58] <selfish> ok, I broke zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:07] <selfish> day 1
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:20] <idea4gud> wassy u still here
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:34] <idea4gud> waitin for ur input
[04-Mar-2008 21:20:43] <selfish> under Browse By - Networks it shows nothing at all, but i choose Add Network and type in my IP and it says already in use
[04-Mar-2008 21:23:41] <wassy121> idea: no clue. Maybe the zenoss package didn't install correctly?
[04-Mar-2008 21:24:45] <locohost> http://pastebin.ca/928188
[04-Mar-2008 21:24:50] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - dtml/zope reference parent folde - post number 928188 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Mar-2008 21:25:20] <locohost> DTML Document DTML Document at /viewcmdb
[04-Mar-2008 21:26:28] <idea4gud> locohost is there any way i can copy the same files from the zen workin repository
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:00] <idea4gud> locohost: i tried with 2 versions and both complain for the same hting
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:21] <locohost> your not installing with -no-deps are you?
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:28] <idea4gud> no
[04-Mar-2008 21:27:35] <idea4gud> i am just foll the guide
[04-Mar-2008 21:28:04] <locohost> centos4 or %?
[04-Mar-2008 21:28:06] <locohost> 5
[04-Mar-2008 21:28:10] <idea4gud> 5
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:15] <selfish> i just installed latest with centos5.1 and it's working great
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:19] <selfish> except that i just broke it
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:32] <idea4gud> so wat version did u download from sourceforge.net
[04-Mar-2008 21:29:40] <idea4gud> selfish:?
[04-Mar-2008 21:30:02] <selfish> zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5.x86_64.rpm
[04-Mar-2008 21:30:37] <idea4gud> i am running centos on a VM that is hosted on a network tryin the i386 of the same
[04-Mar-2008 21:30:54] <selfish> mine is also on a VM
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:30] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928200
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:37] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - zenoss error - post number 928200 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:40] <idea4gud> my error if any1 wanna look @ this
[04-Mar-2008 21:32:57] <klinstifen> loco: i'll take a look at what you pasted and get back to you tomorrow
[04-Mar-2008 21:33:39] <idea4gud> i am struggling on this since last thursday
[04-Mar-2008 21:34:03] <idea4gud> can any1 giv some suggestions
[04-Mar-2008 21:38:32] <locohost> idea, try this
[04-Mar-2008 21:38:45] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:03] <locohost> pmed you
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:08] <idea4gud> thnx dude
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:23] <locohost> then restart zenoss, and see if its stuck on the next file
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:44] <locohost> if im right, it will stop at zeo.conf next, if that is hte case, ill send you all the files
[04-Mar-2008 21:39:56] <locohost> thanks klinstifen
[04-Mar-2008 21:40:51] <selfish> hey, my network is back
[04-Mar-2008 21:40:56] <selfish> guess it just had to cycle
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:05] <locohost> sorry, idea, chnage ~/opt/zenoss/bin/ to /opt/zenoss/bin/
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:12] <locohost> in the scp, your not putting it in your homne
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:17] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:30] <idea4gud> k
[04-Mar-2008 21:41:56] <idea4gud> thnx
[04-Mar-2008 21:42:33] <idea4gud> shall i copy 4 lines
[04-Mar-2008 21:42:38] <idea4gud> the one u mentioned
[04-Mar-2008 21:43:21] <locohost> did error number 1 go away when you kick zenoss?
[04-Mar-2008 21:45:14] <idea4gud> it complains the same but now first it says zopectl is missing
[04-Mar-2008 21:45:40] <idea4gud> then zeoctl is missing
[04-Mar-2008 21:46:42] <locohost> so it reversed the order?
[04-Mar-2008 21:47:55] <idea4gud> wait lemme check if copied to rite location where it shud hav been
[04-Mar-2008 21:47:58] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 21:48:30] <locohost> /opt/zenoss/bin. right?
[04-Mar-2008 21:48:43] <locohost> maybe its a permission thing, chown it as zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 21:55:15] <locohost> well, until tomorrow.
[04-Mar-2008 21:55:50] <locohost> Ill see you on the dark side of the moon
[04-Mar-2008 21:56:33] <bush|werk> if the dam breaks open many years too soon?
[04-Mar-2008 21:56:59] <locohost> just in case there is no room on the hill
[04-Mar-2008 21:57:12] <bush|werk> werd
[04-Mar-2008 21:57:33] <locohost> there is no dark side of the moon really, matter of fact its all dark
[04-Mar-2008 21:58:36] <bush|werk> does zendisc run the zenmodeler process after it finds a device?
[04-Mar-2008 21:58:41] <bush|werk> or is that a manual operation?
[04-Mar-2008 21:59:05] <bush|werk> like, if i were to script zendisc to scan the network once daily, would i have to explicitly run zenmodeler?
[04-Mar-2008 21:59:26] <idea4gud> locohost: it complains for zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:28] <locohost> and, it no longer complains about hte file i gave you?
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:31] <idea4gud> errno 2 : no file /etc/zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:37] <idea4gud> yes i guess we made some progress
[04-Mar-2008 22:00:58] <locohost> well, i think i put t hat file in the home of the shell login i gave you
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:11] <locohost> try putting that one there to and chownin i5t
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:21] <locohost> im about to go home, so, ill check back after i get a beer in me
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:33] <idea4gud> that: here refers to?
[04-Mar-2008 22:01:51] <idea4gud> k
[04-Mar-2008 22:04:25] <btsteve> where can you set $ZENHOME for all of the files?
[04-Mar-2008 22:08:05] <bush|werk> btsteve: /usr/local/zenoss
[04-Mar-2008 22:08:15] <bush|werk> or... what are you asking?
[04-Mar-2008 22:28:08] <idea4gud> locohost: hi it says file not found for zeo.congf
[04-Mar-2008 22:40:55] <selfish> Is there any kind of link between a location and a network?
[04-Mar-2008 22:45:10] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[04-Mar-2008 22:45:28] <bush|werk> i dont think so
[04-Mar-2008 22:45:39] <bush|werk> a network can span multiple locations technically
[04-Mar-2008 22:46:09] <bush|werk> if youre referring to the location field in a device's properties, i think thats more for organization purposes
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:21] <selfish> I was referring to the location for mapping purposes
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:28] <locohost_> i think it wants like /headquarters/floor2/south-west_closet
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:33] <locohost_> or something, for the location
[04-Mar-2008 22:47:50] <selfish> yeah, we just happen to have a /21 for each site
[04-Mar-2008 22:48:48] <selfish> but when something is down, the mapping is going by locations/devices
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:43] <idea4gud> hi loco good 2 c u abck
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:46] <idea4gud> back
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:55] <locohost_> yo. any luck?
[04-Mar-2008 22:49:55] <idea4gud> that file is not there
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:01] <idea4gud> zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:04] <locohost_> k
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:09] <idea4gud> just one file i guess zeoctl
[04-Mar-2008 22:50:13] <idea4gud> in home
[04-Mar-2008 22:51:31] <locohost_> now it is
[04-Mar-2008 22:53:39] <locohost_> anyone able to help me figure out how to reference ${device/id} inside a dtml script i made?
[04-Mar-2008 22:53:56] <locohost_> http://pastebin.ca/928188
[04-Mar-2008 22:54:03] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - dtml/zope reference parent folde - post number 928188 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Mar-2008 22:59:28] * locohost_ yawns
[04-Mar-2008 23:08:33] <locohost_> selfish, i didnt see what you last said. it maps by network/location so you know which network team to call. the seattle network team or the denver network team
[04-Mar-2008 23:08:33] <locohost_> etc
[04-Mar-2008 23:10:04] <locohost_> or, site /21, or site /37
[04-Mar-2008 23:11:21] <locohost_> idea4, any luck?
[04-Mar-2008 23:11:25] <idea4gud> loco: i am not able to find file pmed u plz look @ dat
[04-Mar-2008 23:12:02] <locohost_> i cant see your pm
[04-Mar-2008 23:12:08] <locohost_> are you not registered?
[04-Mar-2008 23:12:55] <idea4gud> i am now reg
[04-Mar-2008 23:13:07] <idea4gud> it says it recognized me
[04-Mar-2008 23:13:49] <locohost_> zeo.conf
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:10] <locohost_> right?
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:24] <idea4gud> yes
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:32] <idea4gud> now can u look @ my pm
[04-Mar-2008 23:14:54] <locohost_> take out the ~ in ~/opt/..
[04-Mar-2008 23:15:44] <selfish> locohost_: so if it alerts and maps based on location, why do I need to configure networks?
[04-Mar-2008 23:15:45] <locohost_> i was getting a little overzelous in my home referencing the first time i typed the scp out
[04-Mar-2008 23:16:20] <locohost_> locations with multiple networks
[04-Mar-2008 23:16:59] <locohost_> the network is for maping,and drawing out logical networks, where location breaks that down into physical location
[04-Mar-2008 23:17:42] <locohost_> you could have a vpn between 2 locations and from a network view it would be transparent, you want to know that half of the network is at a different location
[04-Mar-2008 23:17:49] <selfish> yeah, but I'm a good designer so logical and physical are the same.
[04-Mar-2008 23:18:06] <locohost_> or you have a small network
[04-Mar-2008 23:18:19] <selfish> sheeeeeeit
[04-Mar-2008 23:18:36] <selfish> 40 sites across US, Canada, and S. America
[04-Mar-2008 23:19:01] <selfish> tiny
[04-Mar-2008 23:20:25] <locohost_> i wasnt expecting anything under 41, pittens, i tell you
[04-Mar-2008 23:20:51] <locohost_> so, you have 40 locations, and each location is 1 network, with no exceptions?
[04-Mar-2008 23:21:16] <selfish> yeah, each one is a /21
[04-Mar-2008 23:21:37] <locohost_> ahh, lol, i though you ment /21 like that was your locaiton name before
[04-Mar-2008 23:22:18] <selfish> heh, yeah i've never seen an app that used root /'s like it's a file system
[04-Mar-2008 23:22:40] <locohost_> well, in my env, i have 5 seperate networks in 1 location that cant talk to each other, and an admin network that is the only way to talk to them all
[04-Mar-2008 23:22:53] <locohost_> so, devices are on multiple networks, and stuff
[04-Mar-2008 23:23:02] <selfish> ouch
[04-Mar-2008 23:23:30] <locohost_> they all have different tubes, different ip blocks, etc
[04-Mar-2008 23:23:37] <locohost_> the internet is a series of tubes
[04-Mar-2008 23:24:27] <locohost_> lol
[04-Mar-2008 23:25:32] <locohost_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE kinda funny
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[04-Mar-2008 23:26:21] <johns55> what r u guys doing for backup? are u using zenbackup? or just taring the entire ZENHOME?
[04-Mar-2008 23:26:53] <locohost_> it think we use bacula
[04-Mar-2008 23:27:16] <johns55> what?>!
[04-Mar-2008 23:29:33] <locohost_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bacula thats what is backup up my almost production zenoss server
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[04-Mar-2008 23:30:00] <selfish> we use backup exec
[04-Mar-2008 23:30:15] <johns55> so bacula just backs up the zenoss home directory?
[04-Mar-2008 23:30:32] <johns55> or are u running the zenbackup as a cron and bacula comes in and pulls the tar in ZENHOME/backup
[04-Mar-2008 23:32:21] <locohost_> not sure, i dont do the backups, but it does incremental backups of the entier box, so we could restore any file on the system
[04-Mar-2008 23:33:10] <idea4gud> it says cant start /opt/zenoss/bin/runzeo
[04-Mar-2008 23:34:13] <johns55> wow u backup the entire box
[04-Mar-2008 23:34:14] <johns55> crazy
[04-Mar-2008 23:36:17] <locohost__> okay, i was missing that file to
[04-Mar-2008 23:36:27] <locohost__> scp that one over as well
[04-Mar-2008 23:38:14] <locohost__> you put zeoctl in etc not bin, right, i think i said bin before
[04-Mar-2008 23:38:27] <locohost__> but, it sounds like you got past that part
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[05-Mar-2008 00:00:36] <locohost__> idea4?
[05-Mar-2008 00:00:40] <idea4gud> yes
[05-Mar-2008 00:00:48] <KillMeNow> Night everyone, see you later
[05-Mar-2008 00:00:53] <idea4gud> please forward me zopectl
[05-Mar-2008 00:01:34] <idea4gud> please forward me zopectl
[05-Mar-2008 00:03:00] <locohost__> done
[05-Mar-2008 00:03:13] <idea4gud> thnx
[05-Mar-2008 00:06:51] <idea4gud> k why is tht when i do start zenoss it says like deamon : zeoctl ..... goes on and on
[05-Mar-2008 00:07:24] <locohost__> its looping zeoctl, or its just going through all of the 12 or so deamons?
[05-Mar-2008 00:07:54] <idea4gud> just thru zeoctl
[05-Mar-2008 00:09:29] <locohost__> so, it says everything is started, except looops at zeoctrl, and says it is started over and over again?
[05-Mar-2008 00:09:35] <locohost__> on the same pid, or different pids?
[05-Mar-2008 00:10:26] <idea4gud> Daemon: zeoctl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[05-Mar-2008 00:11:14] <locohost__> how long have you waited? its pertty slow to start sometimes in my vm
[05-Mar-2008 00:11:45] <locohost__> the perms right on zeoctl?
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:25] <locohost__> i probably messed them up when i moved them
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:34] <idea4gud> i guess i ave kill my machine
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:43] <idea4gud> bcz they r just in the loop
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:52] <idea4gud> doesnt allow me execute any command
[05-Mar-2008 00:12:54] <locohost__> can you open up another session, and kill it all off?
[05-Mar-2008 00:15:31] <locohost__> http://www.nme.com/video/id/Fow7iUaKrq4/search/kill
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[05-Mar-2008 00:25:59] <johns55> wzp
[05-Mar-2008 00:26:32] <locohost__> not much, just working on the same problem ive been workin on for like 8 hours
[05-Mar-2008 00:34:21] <idea4gud> loco:askin for zope.conf
[05-Mar-2008 00:38:10] <idea4gud> though i have checked zenoss/etc/ i have zope.conf file
[05-Mar-2008 00:38:23] <locohost__> for sure not zeo.conf?
[05-Mar-2008 00:40:51] <locohost__> i moved my zeo.conf there, but dont just overwrite it if it is there, diff them
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:01] <locohost__> zope.conf rather
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:07] <idea4gud> k lemme paste u the exact erroe
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:09] <idea4gud> error
[05-Mar-2008 00:41:43] <locohost__> im loco withi two _underscores__
[05-Mar-2008 00:42:31] <idea4gud> i have check in opt/zenoss/etc/ i have zope.conff present herte
[05-Mar-2008 00:45:49] <locohost__> so, now its not complaining about any missing files, buty our getting a different error all together
[05-Mar-2008 00:48:45] <idea4gud> i was thikin of hangin zope.conf
[05-Mar-2008 00:53:54] <locohost__> could someeone help me with http://pastebin.ca/928188, please?
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[05-Mar-2008 01:05:13] <idea4gud> if u u got some more time may b u can look @ my erro message as Well ZOPECTL and ZOPE.conf
[05-Mar-2008 01:10:10] <locohost__> not sure, i dont think i had that problem, try running the comand the error says to run, might give more debug info
[05-Mar-2008 01:13:27] <idea4gud> it does allow me run the command seems wierd permision denied
[05-Mar-2008 01:13:30] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928418 may b you cna look @ this
[05-Mar-2008 01:13:37] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 928418 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 01:23:48] <locohost__> you sure you cant reach the server even with that error?
[05-Mar-2008 01:24:20] <idea4gud> locahost__:tht msg was to me ?
[05-Mar-2008 01:29:30] <locohost__> yeah, im not sure what to tell ya
[05-Mar-2008 01:39:30] <idea4gud> also on the server i am using the ip address of my machine given by the network Not the LOCAL HOST
[05-Mar-2008 01:39:34] <idea4gud> is this fine
[05-Mar-2008 01:44:20] <idea4gud> thnx for ur help locohost best of luck for ur task
[05-Mar-2008 01:44:31] <idea4gud> i appreciate ur help
[05-Mar-2008 01:44:35] <idea4gud> tc bye
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[05-Mar-2008 10:16:14] <[Wiebel]> hello again
[05-Mar-2008 10:16:26] <[Wiebel]> is there a way to add dependancies to devices?
[05-Mar-2008 10:16:57] <[Wiebel]> so if devices x is down it does not send mail/page messages for y and z because they depend on x
[05-Mar-2008 14:32:26] <locohost> there is some info on there here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16231
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[05-Mar-2008 14:36:00] <[Wiebel]> yeah i've read that
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:03] <[Wiebel]> but we have layer2 only devices
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:09] <[Wiebel]> or at least, non-layer3 devices
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:19] <[Wiebel]> (only for management )
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:22] <sr_> hi.. can somebody pls help me out with configuring ZenOSS to get
[05-Mar-2008 14:36:45] <sr_> software details in Linux machines?
[05-Mar-2008 14:39:44] <sr_> i couldn't get software details once i modeled Linux machines with zenoss..
[05-Mar-2008 14:57:27] <Teecee> I am getting an event "snmp agent down on device..." on all of my cisco access points, but snmp is working because it discovered them, pulled the ios version, location, name, and I can view the stats on my different interfaces and vlans... Any idea why zenoss is telling me this? I login to the access point and SNMP IS enabled.
[05-Mar-2008 15:01:36] <locohost> can you walk the devices manually in zenoss?
[05-Mar-2008 15:03:36] <Teecee> walk the devices manually? I do not know what that means
[05-Mar-2008 15:14:21] <locohost> when looking at the status page of the device, from the drop down arrow, run command --> snmpwalk
[05-Mar-2008 15:19:48] <Teecee> it worked
[05-Mar-2008 15:20:10] <Teecee> came back with ios info, contact, name location, etc
[05-Mar-2008 15:25:40] <twm1010> you're getting this event from all of them?
[05-Mar-2008 15:25:42] <twm1010> or just a few?
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:06] <Teecee> pretty much all of them
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:10] <locohost> is it a red event, or an orage event?
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:13] <locohost> orange*
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:14] <Teecee> orange
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:32] <locohost> im new to zenoss myself, does that mean it was red, but is not anymore?
[05-Mar-2008 15:27:57] <Teecee> i am on my second day of using zenoss so i am pretty new also
[05-Mar-2008 15:28:53] <locohost> when you drill down to that device, what exactly does it say is wrong with it?
[05-Mar-2008 15:29:31] <Teecee> when I click on the orange event, I get snmp agent down on device DEVICENAME
[05-Mar-2008 15:29:59] <KillMeNow> have you checked firewall settings Teecee? make sure the SNMP service is running on your box?
[05-Mar-2008 15:30:53] <locohost> he can snmpwalk it manually
[05-Mar-2008 15:31:41] <Teecee> at the bottom of the status screen i see the "SNMP Descr" Cisco IOS Software, C1200 Software (C1200-K9W7-M), Version 12.3(8)JEC, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Thu 25-Oct-07 22:24 by dchih
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[05-Mar-2008 15:32:01] <Teecee> it knows the OS version is IOS 12.3(8)JEC
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:05] <Teecee> I did not tell it that
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:18] <Teecee> it knows the hw model, it knows location, etc
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:21] <Teecee> all that is via snmp
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:41] <Teecee> it is like snmp works, but zenoss doesnt think it is working
[05-Mar-2008 15:32:55] <locohost> what is the event class of the error?
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:12] <locohost> i wonder if its checking for running processes through snmp, and not finding net-snmp or soemthing
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:36] <Teecee> ok weird
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:40] <Teecee> it just went away
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:51] <locohost> good, how long was it like that?
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:56] <locohost> more then 15 minutes?
[05-Mar-2008 15:33:59] <Teecee> 20 hours
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:08] <Teecee> dont worry, i have plenty more with this error
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:18] <Teecee> the event class is /status/snmp
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:28] <Teecee> maybe forcing the snmpwalk fixes it?
[05-Mar-2008 15:34:49] <Teecee> i just ran a snmpwalk on another, we will see what happens
[05-Mar-2008 15:36:40] <locohost> it s hould be doing that on its own every few 5 minutes, weird,
[05-Mar-2008 15:36:50] <locohost> verify all your processes are running
[05-Mar-2008 15:36:56] <locohost> sudo /etc/init.d/zenoss status
[05-Mar-2008 15:37:57] <Teecee> everything is running
[05-Mar-2008 15:40:47] <locohost> what is the first time and last time like?
[05-Mar-2008 15:40:56] <locohost> it says it was down for the entier 20 hours, and the time is right?
[05-Mar-2008 15:41:06] <locohost> and the count is increasing?
[05-Mar-2008 15:48:53] <twm1010> I don't think SNMP down messages are auto-cleared
[05-Mar-2008 15:51:18] <locohost> so maybe he had a layer 2 hiccup hours ago, and they just didnt clear, thats why im saying to look at the tstamp
[05-Mar-2008 15:52:42] <Teecee> how do I clear them?
[05-Mar-2008 16:22:39] <brittonr> morning.. i have a question
[05-Mar-2008 16:26:50] <brittonr> how do you change the ip address in the VMware zenoss download. i set it in the /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 but during startup it says IPADDR command not found
[05-Mar-2008 16:27:34] <brittonr> ?
[05-Mar-2008 16:33:38] <brittonr> morning.
[05-Mar-2008 16:34:04] <brittonr> i am having trouble with zenoss vmware down version.
[05-Mar-2008 16:35:44] <brittonr> i need to change the ip address to a static ip. but i get IPADDRR unknown command
[05-Mar-2008 16:44:49] <fym> install question: anyone seen this error: make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[05-Mar-2008 16:44:49] <fym> ?
[05-Mar-2008 16:53:44] <twm1010> brittonr: thats not where you change it
[05-Mar-2008 16:53:46] <twm1010> hold on
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:25] <twm1010> ok /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 is what you want
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:48] <twm1010> here's my config if it helps
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> DEVICE=eth0
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> BOOTPROTO=static
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> BROADCAST=0.0.0.255
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> IPADDR=172.16.19.191
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:49] <twm1010> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:51] <twm1010> NETWORK=172.16.19.0
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:53] <twm1010> GATEWAY=172.16.19.1
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:55] <twm1010> ONBOOT=yes
[05-Mar-2008 16:55:57] <twm1010> TYPE=Ethernet
[05-Mar-2008 17:03:41] <twm1010> hope that helps
[05-Mar-2008 17:24:13] <twm1010> I don't know what to tell you then
[05-Mar-2008 17:24:14] <twm1010> other than arrow through the file one character at a time
[05-Mar-2008 17:24:14] <twm1010> look for extra periods... spaces... etc
[05-Mar-2008 17:37:32] <brittonr> i retyping the entire file over
[05-Mar-2008 17:37:37] <brittonr> see what happens
[05-Mar-2008 17:38:38] <brittonr> yes!
[05-Mar-2008 17:38:42] <brittonr> that did it
[05-Mar-2008 17:38:46] <brittonr> didn't like something..
[05-Mar-2008 17:39:22] <brittonr> thanks for the help
[05-Mar-2008 18:13:18] <johns55> anyone experience where the event logs do not scroll down?
[05-Mar-2008 18:46:47] <wassy121> Hello all. Can someone explain to me how to manually set the speed of network interfaces in zenoss?
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:17] <wassy121> I get too many errors about surpassing the 75% threshold due to the NIC speed being incorrectly detected.
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:34] <johns55> yeah sometimes snmp will detect ur gigabit card as 100mbit
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:52] <johns55> so it will alert u when u hit 75mbit
[05-Mar-2008 18:47:55] <johns55> when u can go faster
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:10] <wassy121> Correct. How can I prevent/change this?
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:28] <johns55> depends, some devices detect it correctly
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:32] <johns55> others dont
[05-Mar-2008 18:48:49] <johns55> ive heard some people have adjusted their threshold to multiply by 100
[05-Mar-2008 18:49:02] <johns55> of course you would need to create a local copy of ur device template
[05-Mar-2008 18:49:45] <wassy121> Ah. That makes sense. There is no way to set the 'self.speed' variable it is calling though?
[05-Mar-2008 18:50:17] <wassy121> Rather than having to make a local device template (to be updated each time a change is needed . . . )
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[05-Mar-2008 18:51:02] <johns55> well if a device is detected correctly, then the speed variable will be multiplied by 100
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:14] <johns55> why not just fix what is being detected incorrectly locally
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:21] <wassy121> Yeah, it is a weird bonded device.
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:21] <johns55> instead of messing with the global variables
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:37] <wassy121> How does Zen determine the speed?
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:41] <wassy121> Through mii-tool?
[05-Mar-2008 18:51:47] <johns55> snmp
[05-Mar-2008 18:53:17] <wassy121> Ah, I may be able to just add the appropriate speed in snmpd.conf. Let me investigate. Thanks for the helpful advice.
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:29] <johns55> no u cant
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:43] <johns55> it will affect other correctly detected nic speeds
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:48] <johns55> if u change anything in there
[05-Mar-2008 18:54:58] <johns55> u need to change this on the device that is having the problem in zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:19] <wassy121> The other NICs speeds don't matter on these machines. The two NICs are bonded together to a 'bond0' device. If I set the speed of that on the appropriate devices in snmpd.conf, won't that do the trick?
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:50] <johns55> hrm, im not sure how you would set the nic speed on snmpd.conf
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:54] <wassy121> Having the other NICs misrepresented shouldn't make much of a problem.
[05-Mar-2008 18:58:55] <johns55> but u can try and see if it works
[05-Mar-2008 18:59:00] <wassy121> I don't know either. But, I will try
[05-Mar-2008 18:59:13] <johns55> ok
[05-Mar-2008 19:06:58] <idea4gud> Hi guyz I am back to trouble u
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:10] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928418 Can any1 help me
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:16] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 928418 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:25] <idea4gud> All thanx to locohost:) for helping me
[05-Mar-2008 19:07:28] <idea4gud> reach til here
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:08] <idea4gud> some times u feel Open source r they worht the time they ask u in getting for ur self
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:20] <idea4gud> esp for new comers like me
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:33] <idea4gud> http://pastebin.ca/928418
[05-Mar-2008 19:08:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 928418 (at pastebin.ca)
[05-Mar-2008 19:15:38] <idea4gud> dowe havto run zenoss as user : zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:15:54] <idea4gud> also wat would be the password for zenoss user
[05-Mar-2008 19:20:09] <johns55> nothing
[05-Mar-2008 19:20:12] <johns55> useradd zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:20:17] <johns55> su zenoss to use the user
[05-Mar-2008 19:24:34] <wassy121> johns55: I think I found the solution to the mis-configured NIC speed. I guess there was a forum post about it on the zenoss boards. Testing it out, but it seems like it should work.
[05-Mar-2008 19:24:48] <wassy121> echo "interface bond0 5 1000000000" >> snmpd.conf
[05-Mar-2008 19:27:55] <johns55> hrm interesting
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:04] <johns55> bond0 is the interface but what does 5 do?
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:21] <wassy121> that is the 5th entry in the NIC config. Happens to be the 'port speed' entry.
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:23] <idea4gud> i have zenoss already added
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:45] <johns55> wassy: ahh ok thats good to know
[05-Mar-2008 19:28:52] <idea4gud> john55: i didnt add may b it added itseld
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:00] <idea4gud> now its askin for password
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:10] <johns55> what?
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:15] <johns55> r u using root to su to zenoss?
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:25] <idea4gud> first i was runnin ass root
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:38] <wassy121> idea: the user is installed with the rest of the package. You have to become root, then run 'su - zenoss'
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:41] <johns55> dont log off root, just do a su zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:43] <idea4gud> but i had this error which pasted online @
[05-Mar-2008 19:29:53] <idea4gud> i did the same
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:17] <idea4gud> but the password? i donno what's the default passwrd
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:49] <idea4gud> when i want to start the service its askin passwrd
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:52] <johns55> so as root u do an su zenoss and its asking for a pw?
[05-Mar-2008 19:30:52] <wassy121> the web front-end password?
[05-Mar-2008 19:31:47] <wassy121> idea: the error you are running into is because your zope.conf is not correct.
[05-Mar-2008 19:31:56] <idea4gud> i am tryin to etc/init.d/zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:31:58] <wassy121> %define INSTANCE <<INSTANCE_HOME>>
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:04] <wassy121> Is incorrect. It should be:
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:12] <wassy121> %define INSTANCE /opt/zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:36] <idea4gud> k lemme try tht thnx
[05-Mar-2008 19:32:49] <wassy121> same thing with the other variable you have in <<>>
[05-Mar-2008 19:33:08] <johns55> you might also have installed it in /usr/local/zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:33:13] <johns55> make sure u have the right ZENHOME
[05-Mar-2008 19:36:08] <klinstifen> hey all
[05-Mar-2008 19:36:24] <klinstifen> has anyone added things to the os or hardware tab?
[05-Mar-2008 19:36:36] <klinstifen> i have a fax server on an aix box and i want to list it in that section
[05-Mar-2008 19:37:58] <johns55> what process name is the fax server using?
[05-Mar-2008 19:38:22] <johns55> you can monitor the process or the port
[05-Mar-2008 19:39:04] <idea4gud> why does it ask or password when i do
[05-Mar-2008 19:39:49] <idea4gud> running as zenoss: /etc/init.d/zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:02] <idea4gud> running as zenoss: /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:27] <klinstifen> johns55: i have 8 pids associated with it...
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:45] <wassy121> because you don't run the init script as the zenoss user.
[05-Mar-2008 19:40:50] <wassy121> You run the init script as root.
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:04] <idea4gud> ok i did also service zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:05] <klinstifen> idea: or you just say zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:06] <idea4gud> smae thing
[05-Mar-2008 19:41:11] <klinstifen> as zenoss user
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:07] <klinstifen> johns55: how will zenoss determine if it is down...if i were monitoring the port
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:09] <wassy121> So, I modified the NIC speed on one of my devices. How do I get the zenoss portal to update the "speed" variable in Devices/Server/Linux/devices/Hostname/os/bond0 ?
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:17] <klinstifen> does it look for it and if not found say it is down?
[05-Mar-2008 19:42:55] <locohost> i added things to the hardware tab!
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:01] <klinstifen> nice!
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:02] <johns55> klingstifen: snmp will send an alert
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:04] <locohost> got it pulling from my existing cmdb
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:14] <johns55> wassy: model the device
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:27] <locohost> dtml method > document
[05-Mar-2008 19:43:36] <locohost> dtml document, that is
[05-Mar-2008 19:44:23] <locohost> i have just shy of 50 fields, things like storage_total, weight, circuit_id, lease_from, lease_end, purchase_date
[05-Mar-2008 19:47:33] <klinstifen> johns: maybe you could suggest a step 1 and 2?
[05-Mar-2008 19:48:10] <johns55> kinst: do you want to monitor the process or the port it runs off of?
[05-Mar-2008 19:50:23] <klinstifen> johns: process
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:15] <johns55> klins: find what the process name is..
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:44] <johns55> then go to Processes
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:54] <johns55> add a new process with that name
[05-Mar-2008 19:51:58] <johns55> set monitor to true
[05-Mar-2008 19:52:01] <johns55> the remodel the device
[05-Mar-2008 19:53:37] <klinstifen> ok easy
[05-Mar-2008 19:53:51] <klinstifen> i am running ps -ef and that gives path but not "name"
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:04] <johns55> do an lsof -i -n -P
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:10] <johns55> well it depends on ur distro
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:31] <klinstifen> yeah lsof not found
[05-Mar-2008 19:54:37] <locohost> i just did something kinda cool for my vmware server host, it monitors the memory and cpu usage of all the guests on my hosts
[05-Mar-2008 19:55:06] <johns55> try netstat
[05-Mar-2008 19:55:58] <locohost> ps auxf
[05-Mar-2008 19:56:12] <locohost> nevermind
[05-Mar-2008 19:57:41] <idea4gud> wassy: Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[05-Mar-2008 19:57:41] <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:00] <idea4gud> i hav this error cant fig wat it is
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:12] <idea4gud> i dont this folder zenoss/var/
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:47] <locohost> hrm, that sucks
[05-Mar-2008 19:58:55] <locohost> your ganan need var
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:04] <klinstifen> idea did you chmod chown zensocket?
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:09] <klinstifen> per the docs?
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:25] <locohost> ihe said he doesnt even have a var
[05-Mar-2008 19:59:38] <idea4gud> i am follwin inst given on site
[05-Mar-2008 20:00:10] <locohost> did your initial install fail? or did it seem to finish successfuly?
[05-Mar-2008 20:00:59] <idea4gud> well i was able to change the zope.conf as per instruction given to me
[05-Mar-2008 20:01:14] <idea4gud> now when i start the service it gives me this new error
[05-Mar-2008 20:02:28] <locohost> there is a lot of important stuff in /opt/zimbra/var/ ...like Data.fs for example
[05-Mar-2008 20:02:40] <locohost> |sed 's/zimbra/zenoss/g'
[05-Mar-2008 20:04:57] <locohost> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
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[05-Mar-2008 20:06:59] <idea4gud> does it usally hav this path in the installation : /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock
[05-Mar-2008 20:07:07] <idea4gud> i am as zenoss
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:03] <locohost> yep
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:04] <locohost> i have it
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:23] <locohost> i have like 30 files in that oflder
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:24] <locohost> folde
[05-Mar-2008 20:08:49] <locohost> 113mb
[05-Mar-2008 20:09:01] <wassy121> johns: thanks for all the help. That got me exactly what I needed to solve the thresholding problem.
[05-Mar-2008 20:18:30] <locohost> idea4, have you tried fully removing the rpm and trying again from scratch
[05-Mar-2008 20:19:09] <locohost> im actually using zenoss-2.1.71-0.el4 under centos5
[05-Mar-2008 20:26:00] <idea4gud> i was using the same version
[05-Mar-2008 20:26:20] <idea4gud> i mean it had some pblm so i downloaded 2.1.2
[05-Mar-2008 20:28:25] <idea4gud> or do u want me to reinstall zenoss 2.1.71 el5 which i hav on my comp
[05-Mar-2008 20:36:02] <locohost> not sure what to tell you, im actually using the el4 version on centos5 which some would probably say is sub-optimal
[05-Mar-2008 20:37:12] <locohost> had to do it with no-deps because of some conflicts with openssl 0.9.7 vs 0.9.8
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[05-Mar-2008 21:16:39] <selfish> ok
[05-Mar-2008 21:16:54] <selfish> Under networks, i have zAutoDisco = false
[05-Mar-2008 21:17:12] <selfish> but it still auto disco'd a bunch of stuff last night
[05-Mar-2008 21:18:36] <wassy121> Hi. I have this switch in my network that has an interface with an ifType of "PropVirtual 53". This is throwing minor alerts in zenoss, because it can't read the ifInOctets, out octets, etc like it does for a standard network interface.
[05-Mar-2008 21:18:51] <wassy121> How can I tell zenoss not to try to monitor or graph that interface?
[05-Mar-2008 21:19:28] <wassy121> Error reading value for "StackSub-St2-1" on SWITCHNAME (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.5183 is bad)
[05-Mar-2008 21:19:38] <wassy121> Is the summary of the event it is throwing.
[05-Mar-2008 21:20:13] <wassy121> I can verify that 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.5183 is not there. Hence the error.
[05-Mar-2008 21:21:17] <wassy121> Or, tell it to use a different template if the ifType is set to 53?
[05-Mar-2008 21:41:24] <locohost> home, home again, i like to be there when i can
[05-Mar-2008 21:43:34] <locohost> can you get rmon stats off of it?
[05-Mar-2008 21:44:11] <wassy121> loco: talking to me?
[05-Mar-2008 21:45:00] <locohost> was, but i really dont know what im talking aboutr
[05-Mar-2008 21:45:41] <wassy121> Me either. Network gear is not my specialty.
[05-Mar-2008 21:46:42] <locohost> was just reading over RFC-2515 and confused myself
[05-Mar-2008 21:46:52] <locohost> what happens when you wallk that if through the commandline
[05-Mar-2008 21:47:56] <wassy121> So, I can walk through 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17 and see the ifOutUcastPkts for all the real interfaces.
[05-Mar-2008 21:48:36] <wassy121> And if I walk 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1, and grep for 5183 (the virtual interface that is throwing the errors), I get realistic-looking output.
[05-Mar-2008 21:48:37] <locohost> but, you want to trach what is happening in that vlan
[05-Mar-2008 21:48:55] <locohost> track
[05-Mar-2008 21:49:51] <wassy121> I don't even know how it is configured exactly. Not sure what that device is besides it's given name in snmp.
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:03] <wassy121> IF-MIB::ifIndex.5183 = INTEGER: 5183
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:03] <wassy121> IF-MIB::ifDescr.5183 = STRING: StackSub-St2-1
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:03] <wassy121> IF-MIB::ifType.5183 = INTEGER: propVirtual(53)
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:05] <locohost> it sounds like it is a vlan
[05-Mar-2008 21:50:13] <locohost> hmm, maybe not
[05-Mar-2008 21:51:39] <locohost> anyway, i got to go home, if i think of anything ill let ya know
[05-Mar-2008 21:52:00] <locohost> i think its just one of your vlans or something to do with rmon maybe, that rfc i posted might help you a bit
[05-Mar-2008 21:52:39] * locohost sets out for nearest place that sells beer
[05-Mar-2008 21:54:23] <idea4gud> pastebin.ca/929599
[05-Mar-2008 21:54:47] <idea4gud> would any1 look @ this and suggest me something
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> [zenoss@raju-vm opt]$ zenoss start
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> Daemon: zeoctl . . daemon process started, pid=2517
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> Daemon: zopectl . Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[05-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[05-Mar-2008 22:22:13] <idea4gud> i changed the permission the on the with execute permission for group and Now it says No such file or directory for zdrun.py
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[06-Mar-2008 04:54:49] <louish> hi all. I'm running the latest version of zenoss community. Everything works okay on the server, and on windows hosts that I want to monitor. But I having problems with my linux servers. I've installed the snmp and configured the host. but when I try a snmpwalk from the zenoss server it times out. I've done some trouble shooting, and a netstat -an |grep -i upd shows
[06-Mar-2008 04:55:03] <louish> udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:161 0.0.0.0:*
[06-Mar-2008 04:55:45] <louish> I think the 127.0.0.1 should be 0.0.0.0:161 instead. I don't know how to fix this.
[06-Mar-2008 04:56:34] <louish> anyone have any pointers?
[06-Mar-2008 04:56:42] <wassy121> louish: that is how mine looks too, but it is working fine.
[06-Mar-2008 04:56:49] <wassy121> May be your snmpd.conf is misconfigured.
[06-Mar-2008 04:57:25] <louish> Yeah, maybe but no matter what I try nothing seems to work.
[06-Mar-2008 04:57:40] <wassy121> try running 'snmpconf' on the machine in question, so that it allows access from the other device.
[06-Mar-2008 04:58:16] <wassy121> Hmm, I may be off. Mine is indeed running on 0.0.0.0
[06-Mar-2008 04:58:23] <louish> I've tried that, but my knowledge is very limited with snmpconf. not sure what I'm really doing with it.
[06-Mar-2008 04:58:44] <louish> yours is running 0.0.0.0. And NOT 127.0.0.1?
[06-Mar-2008 04:59:12] <wassy121> correct.
[06-Mar-2008 04:59:19] <louish> k
[06-Mar-2008 04:59:26] <wassy121> I was mistaken earlier. You need to have it listening on all IPs, not just localhost.
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:02] <louish> yeah, that's is what I want. but.... lol It isn't and I'm not sure where it's getting just the localhost
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:16] <wassy121> I have a separate question though. How do I get zenoss to stop monitoring a port?
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:40] <wassy121> I have an SMTP alert for the machine zenoss is running on that won't clear (the process is running and working).
[06-Mar-2008 05:00:58] <louish> did you acknowledge it?
[06-Mar-2008 05:01:21] <wassy121> 20 times or so.
[06-Mar-2008 05:01:42] <wassy121> But, I can do so again.
[06-Mar-2008 05:01:44] <louish> I've only just installed zenoss last night (first time ever using it) but I had a machine do down this morning, and I acknowledged it)
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:06] <wassy121> Yeah, that doesn't seem to stop the alert though.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:14] <louish> and I guess you could delete it and re-add it.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:17] <wassy121> This is my first zenoss install, but I have a fair amount of sysadmin exp.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:33] <wassy121> I don't even care if it is monitored to be honest.
[06-Mar-2008 05:02:50] <louish> lol then I guess you could just delete it.
[06-Mar-2008 05:03:09] <wassy121> I have. It comes back.
[06-Mar-2008 05:03:58] <wassy121> Once I remove it, and the device gets remodelled (once every few hours or so) it comes back as an IPService.
[06-Mar-2008 05:04:02] <louish> where does it come back to? where are you deleting it from??
[06-Mar-2008 05:04:11] <louish> ah
[06-Mar-2008 05:05:09] <wassy121> I am deleting it from the OS tab of the device.
[06-Mar-2008 05:05:30] <louish> any ideas on how I can have snmpd listen on 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 ?
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:15] <wassy121> hmm. It is most probably in snmpd.conf
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:19] <wassy121> Best I can tell you
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:39] <wassy121> egrep -v '^$|^\#' /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf - gives the raw config directives.
[06-Mar-2008 05:08:50] <wassy121> (just greps out comments/blank lines)
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:39] <louish> egrep -v '^$|^\#' /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> com2sec notConfigUser default public
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> com2sec local 10.1.1.0/24 public
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> group notConfigGroup v1 notConfigUser
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> group notConfigGroup v2c notConfigUser
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:40] <louish> view systemview included .1
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:42] <louish> access notConfigGroup "" any noauth exact systemview none none
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:44] <louish> syslocation Unknown (configure /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf)
[06-Mar-2008 05:09:46] <louish> syscontact Root <root@localhost> (configure /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf)
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:03] <louish> hmmm
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:24] <wassy121> Yeah. Hmm indeed.
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:30] <louish> i've done a ps aux |grep snmpd and look at the end of the line.
[06-Mar-2008 05:10:34] <louish> snmp 16047 0.0 0.1 41932 4956 ? S 22:26 0:00 /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:20] <louish> where would that be coming from?
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:24] <louish> :/
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:29] <wassy121> init script probably.
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:32] <wassy121> What OS?
[06-Mar-2008 05:11:49] <louish> Ubuntu 7.06
[06-Mar-2008 05:12:11] <wassy121> hmm, let me install on laptop so I have a better clue.
[06-Mar-2008 05:12:32] <louish> sry. brain freeze. 7.04
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[06-Mar-2008 05:14:19] <wassy121> vi /etc/default/snmpd
[06-Mar-2008 05:14:31] <wassy121> Remove the '127.0.0.1', restart, good to go.
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:16] <wassy121>
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:19] <wassy121> Worked for me.
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:55] <louish> ohhhhh
[06-Mar-2008 05:15:59] <louish> one sec.
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:01] <wassy121> Word?
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:17] <louish> WORD!!!!!
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:23] <wassy121>
[06-Mar-2008 05:16:33] <louish> awesome. TY much wassy121
[06-Mar-2008 05:17:54] <wassy121> Now to get rid of this silly SMTP error.
[06-Mar-2008 05:17:54] <louish> now when I do a snmpwalk from the zenoss server. That linux box is now displaying alot of snmp info....
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:13] <wassy121> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2724&sid=4b1a7db485e160128058ffcbd4d401d7
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:19] <wassy121> Looks to be a description of my problem.
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:23] <wassy121> good.
[06-Mar-2008 05:18:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Patch / Hack to make Ip Service monitors for virtual IPs (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Mar-2008 05:19:21] <wassy121> Now you should be able to add the device to zenoss, and have it come up with pretty graphs and all the monitored services and whatnot.
[06-Mar-2008 05:19:36] <louish> r u running virtual servers? off one nic?
[06-Mar-2008 05:20:04] <wassy121> No, I am running smtp on the internal IP only.
[06-Mar-2008 05:20:23] <wassy121> Zen seems to be checking the external IP for the service, and failing.
[06-Mar-2008 05:20:29] <wassy121> Is my guess.
[06-Mar-2008 05:22:08] <wassy121> Man, I don't even think this SMTP service is doing anything.
[06-Mar-2008 05:22:12] <wassy121> Why is it running . . .
[06-Mar-2008 05:22:20] <wassy121> I kind of want to shut it down and see who/what complains ;-)
[06-Mar-2008 05:23:46] <louish> lol yeah
[06-Mar-2008 05:23:53] <louish> I hear yeah.
[06-Mar-2008 05:25:57] <louish> hey. do you how long it takes before zenoss will start to display data from a host? within zenoss I now have a green (snmp) link for the linux server, but under component type it says "no records found"
[06-Mar-2008 05:27:03] <wassy121> "component type"? Where is that tab/link?
[06-Mar-2008 05:27:49] <wassy121> Did you add the device after the change we made above wrt local listening socket?
[06-Mar-2008 05:28:04] <wassy121> If you added it before we fixed it, you may need to model the device.
[06-Mar-2008 05:28:28] <louish> "/Device/Server/Linux/ipaddy"
[06-Mar-2008 05:28:41] <louish> no it was already there.
[06-Mar-2008 05:29:11] <wassy121> Yeah, click on the triangle menu, manage-model device
[06-Mar-2008 05:29:47] <wassy121> It should go to a text output screen, give you some info for about 45 seconds, then you can go back into the device, and have it show like a normal machine.
[06-Mar-2008 05:31:57] <wassy121> Sweet. So, I fixed the stupid problem.
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:11] <wassy121> I enabled SMTP on all IPs, and just iptabled it out. Silly zenoss.
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:15] <louish> wow. Yeah there was quite a bit. Hey I notice that it mentioned some plug'ins were not there! Do I (should I be installing more plug-ins on the zenoss server?)
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:22] <louish> lol
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:24] <louish> really?
[06-Mar-2008 05:32:49] <wassy121> I am still new to this man. I can't really say what you "should" do.
[06-Mar-2008 05:33:18] <sr_> no..I think "snmp.portscan" will do the trick
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:08] <sr_> you need to configure the collector plugins and include snmp.portscan ... by default it is not included.
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:12] <wassy121> son of a whore. zenoss is still counting it as 'down' since it can't connect on the proper IP address.
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:26] <louish> lol
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:26] <wassy121> sr: You talking to me?
[06-Mar-2008 05:34:52] <sr_> sorry.. I think I misunderstood..
[06-Mar-2008 05:35:21] <louish> collector plugins k
[06-Mar-2008 05:35:58] <wassy121> sr: You got any idea how to stop zenoss from monitoring an IPService? SMTP is not available on the same IP that SNMP is running on, so zen is throwing errors.
[06-Mar-2008 05:36:59] <sr_> I'll check and get back to you..
[06-Mar-2008 05:37:39] <wassy121> The issue is very similar to the one outlined here http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2724&sid=4b1a7db485e160128058ffcbd4d401d7
[06-Mar-2008 05:37:57] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Patch / Hack to make Ip Service monitors for virtual IPs (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Mar-2008 05:38:12] <sr_> can we do something with Zproperties?
[06-Mar-2008 05:41:14] <louish> sr_, I'm zCollectorPlugins. How can I "add" or "include" snmp.portscan?
[06-Mar-2008 05:42:24] <louish> or were you talking about zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap?
[06-Mar-2008 05:45:18] <sr_> sorry..dude..you're correct , actually it's zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap
[06-Mar-2008 05:45:40] <wassy121> sleep now. bye bye.
[06-Mar-2008 05:47:28] <louish> sr_ cool. ty
[06-Mar-2008 05:47:37] <louish> wassy121, night. and thanks for the help...
[06-Mar-2008 05:55:25] <sr_> bye...bye..
[06-Mar-2008 09:10:09] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. Looks like Zenoss installed and fired up well on my Ubuntu box .. but my un-nooblike question is .. how do I access it via www?
[06-Mar-2008 09:12:16] <NineTeen67Comet> I followed the install .. made /home/zenoss and a user/password .. etc etc .. my question I guess .. is how to I access /home/zenoss via the web? My sites all run out of /var/www/<site directory>
[06-Mar-2008 09:48:46] <NineTeen67Comet> It looks like zenoss installed well .. but the passwd/username isn't working .. is there a way to reset the username/passwords?
[06-Mar-2008 10:01:32] <NineTeen67Comet> I keep getting cut off my network, but is there a way to reset or find out my username and password for my fresh install?
[06-Mar-2008 14:11:14] <locohost> admin zenoss?
[06-Mar-2008 14:45:20] <btsteve> I am having an issue with my graphs there are 15 mins gaps in the graphs. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06-Mar-2008 14:57:29] <[Wiebel]> get a marker
[06-Mar-2008 14:58:55] <btsteve> thanks
[06-Mar-2008 14:59:57] <locohost> how big are peoples zenoss databases getting?
[06-Mar-2008 15:00:04] <locohost> i think i need to grow my opt
[06-Mar-2008 15:09:31] <locohost> 15 minute gaps repeating, or just at a certain time?
[06-Mar-2008 15:12:58] <btsteve> looks like repeating
[06-Mar-2008 15:15:12] <locohost> any kinda pattern?
[06-Mar-2008 15:21:27] <btsteve> looks like 45 mins of grapgs the a gap then back to graphing
[06-Mar-2008 15:22:46] <locohost> so once an hour, your missing 15 minutes?
[06-Mar-2008 15:23:33] <locohost> system load is fine on the zenoss box, you dont have a cron running or something that could be pegging io or something?
[06-Mar-2008 15:23:39] <locohost> no errors in the zenoss logs?
[06-Mar-2008 15:32:12] <btsteve> any specific log i should look in?
[06-Mar-2008 15:57:43] <locohost> not sure, im stabbing around in the dark
[06-Mar-2008 16:02:46] <locohost> does anyone think it will break anything if i move /opt/zenoss to /usr/local/zenoss and symlink /opt/zenoss?
[06-Mar-2008 16:14:11] <locohost> select a.*, b.* from cmdb_device a left join cmdb_disks b on a.name = b.name where a.name = '<dtml-sqlvar cmdb_name type="string">';
[06-Mar-2008 16:14:29] <locohost> mt, sry
[06-Mar-2008 16:50:55] <btsteve> ok np there are somany log files i was just trying to narrow it down.
[06-Mar-2008 18:37:20] <jeld> hello all
[06-Mar-2008 18:37:54] <jeld> I am trying to figure out how zenoss works and so far it has been a pretty alien experience.
[06-Mar-2008 18:39:28] <jeld> I have a dozen servers that I want to monitor, at the moment I only have 3 defined. One of the keeps telling me that "both admin1 and admin1.forsalebyowner.trb are using IP address 10.5.2.20" these are just two names for the same box, how can I tell it to stop doing this?
[06-Mar-2008 18:45:54] <locohost> delete one
[06-Mar-2008 18:46:18] <jeld> I only have one of those defined
[06-Mar-2008 18:46:34] <jeld> as soon as I add admin1 it starts doing that
[06-Mar-2008 18:46:38] <locohost> if you only have a dozen servers, you can probably do without auto-discovery to, imo
[06-Mar-2008 18:47:57] <jeld> locohost: where do I turn it off?
[06-Mar-2008 18:49:00] <locohost> you have any comm gear, or just servers?
[06-Mar-2008 18:49:55] <jeld> yes, I have some switches, a SAN,load balancers etc.
[06-Mar-2008 18:50:09] <jeld> all of my systems are multihomed
[06-Mar-2008 18:51:09] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[06-Mar-2008 18:51:48] <locohost> i think auto discovery works by looking at the routing table of your core gear
[06-Mar-2008 18:52:45] <locohost> where does it say that admin1 and admin1.fqdn have the same ip?
[06-Mar-2008 18:52:53] <locohost> in the event.log?
[06-Mar-2008 18:53:40] <jeld> yes, it is a /Events/Status/Ping event
[06-Mar-2008 18:56:29] <locohost> also, im not sure how to disable autodiscovery , its gatta be in one of the confs or somethintg
[06-Mar-2008 18:58:50] <rdb> hmm my zenoss http stopped responding... reboot doesn't fix it either...
[06-Mar-2008 18:58:54] <jeld> I have to say I am a bit lost in general, as soon as I add SSH to processes it starts complaining about me closing SSH sessions (regex sshd catches actual SSH session handlers)
[06-Mar-2008 18:59:29] <jeld> I cannot seem to figure out where to set alerts for load average or for CPU utilization
[06-Mar-2008 18:59:30] <rdb> lighttpd is what Zenoss uses for the web interface right?
[06-Mar-2008 19:00:44] <locohost> naw, i dont think it uses lighty
[06-Mar-2008 19:01:01] <rdb> hmm no that's just the raa
[06-Mar-2008 19:01:14] <rdb> nothing is listening on 8080 so whatever it should be isn't running
[06-Mar-2008 19:01:57] <locohost> isnt zope what listens and servers the pages?
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:06] <locohost> could be way off
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:25] <jeld> rdb: AFAIK zope has its own http daemon implementation
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:39] <jeld> rdb: and zenoss is using it
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> [locohost@regnard ~]$ cat /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf|grep 8080
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> # configurations. For example, if the http-server port is 8080 and
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> # An HTTP server starts on port 8080.
[06-Mar-2008 19:02:55] <locohost> address 8080
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:15] <rdb> ok thanks, so zope is failing somehow.
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:35] <locohost> i know its possible to get it working with your own apache
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:52] <rdb> well I'm using an appliance so I want to keep it stock
[06-Mar-2008 19:03:57] <locohost> ive read that anyway
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:25] <locohost> wget localhost:8080 get you anywhere?
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:46] <jeld> how do I remove zenpacks?
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:46] <rdb> connection refused
[06-Mar-2008 19:04:53] <rdb> netstat -na | grep 8080 returns nothing
[06-Mar-2008 19:05:09] <locohost> sudo /etc/init.d/zenoss status?
[06-Mar-2008 19:05:13] <jeld> rdb: what does /etc/init.d/zenoss restart say?
[06-Mar-2008 19:05:48] <locohost> well, you may want to check the status before you restart
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:20] <rdb> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:32] <locohost> thats ganna need to be running!
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:36] <locohost> heh
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:52] <locohost> try just a start, it will try and start the processes that is not running only
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:55] <locohost> see if you get any errors
[06-Mar-2008 19:06:56] <rdb> heh tried starrting it
[06-Mar-2008 19:07:48] <rdb> still nothing listening on 8080
[06-Mar-2008 19:08:19] <locohost> what did the init script say when you started it?
[06-Mar-2008 19:08:27] <locohost> ...zopectl running on pid...
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:03] <rdb> it just started zeoctl, no erros
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:17] <rdb> it's dead again...
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:18] <locohost> and if you do status again, is it still running, or did it stop?
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:35] <rdb> it was running for a minute or so
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:37] <rdb> then stopped
[06-Mar-2008 19:09:56] <rdb> which is its event log?
[06-Mar-2008 19:10:57] <locohost> anything iun event event.log?
[06-Mar-2008 19:11:20] <locohost> not sure, there are so many log files, im guessing it would ble in /opt/zenoss/log/event.log
[06-Mar-2008 19:11:50] <locohost> i think /opt/zenoss/log/Z2.log is the equiv of like /var/log/apache/access_log
[06-Mar-2008 19:12:26] <locohost> did you try wgeting local host on 8080 immediatly after the start, to see if it is really listening for a second?
[06-Mar-2008 19:13:46] <rdb> yeah it listens for a moment
[06-Mar-2008 19:13:50] <rdb> but doesn't let anything load
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:02] <rdb> Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:8080... connected.
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:02] <rdb> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers.
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:30] <rdb> nothing in event.log in the last 3 hours
[06-Mar-2008 19:14:56] <rdb> which is when it stopped working
[06-Mar-2008 19:15:22] <locohost> anyone know off hand where i can find hte change log for zenoss-2.1.2-0.el4 to zenoss-2.1.71-0.el4?
[06-Mar-2008 19:15:43] <locohost> okay, so it was working and stopped. upgrade or anyhting, or just crapped out on its own?
[06-Mar-2008 19:16:04] <rdb> locohost; crapped out. I was just creating event mappings after enabling my first syslog client
[06-Mar-2008 19:16:25] <rdb> hmm ok I renamed the zeo1-1.zec and restarted and now it works
[06-Mar-2008 19:16:41] <rdb> I remember having to do that occasionally on my last Zenoss implementation at my last job......
[06-Mar-2008 19:17:21] <locohost> interesting, what exactly is /opt/zenoss/var/zeo1-1.zec, looks like a lot of garble with html mixed in
[06-Mar-2008 19:17:32] <rdb> hmm maybe it's working.... hasn't brought up the dashboard yet.
[06-Mar-2008 19:17:41] <locohost> is that cache?
[06-Mar-2008 19:20:31] <rdb> ok it's working now... slow, but workign.
[06-Mar-2008 19:20:52] <rdb> cpu pegged at 100%
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:23] <locohost> whats eating it?
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:44] <rdb> not sure anymore, load @ 1.98 but is coming down now and 89% idle
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:52] <locohost> top?
[06-Mar-2008 19:21:58] <rdb> maybe it was just getting going still.
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:09] <locohost> 1.98 isnt so bad. single cpu box?
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:20] <locohost> its not a vm, is it?
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:23] <rdb> yeah, had 2x allocated to it but it never used the 2nd cpu
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:28] <rdb> yeah it's vm
[06-Mar-2008 19:22:50] <locohost> for testing, or that is your prod box?
[06-Mar-2008 19:23:13] <rdb> prod
[06-Mar-2008 19:23:59] <locohost> wait, you said you only had 12 systesms, so i bet that will be fine. but as a general rule, people dont recoment using a vm for their monitoring system
[06-Mar-2008 19:24:11] <locohost> especially a virtual app
[06-Mar-2008 19:24:53] <locohost> also, i cant find it, but i once read an article in sysadmin mag, they did a bunch of tests with nagios, and found it performed better in a vm with a single cpu then with 2
[06-Mar-2008 19:25:41] <rdb> I never said I had 12 systems. I have ~120
[06-Mar-2008 19:28:17] <locohost> sry, that was jeld
[06-Mar-2008 19:29:03] <locohost> that might be pushing it for a vm. i do think your just wasting the second cpu though, you could probably take that away and see no diff
[06-Mar-2008 19:29:26] <locohost> esx house, or your just going off 1.4 or something?
[06-Mar-2008 19:31:12] <locohost> im using an ibm hs21 blade with 8 gigs of memory and 2 dualcore 2.66ghz xeons
[06-Mar-2008 19:31:27] <locohost> for about 800 systems and 80 peices of gear
[06-Mar-2008 19:31:31] <locohost> comm gear
[06-Mar-2008 19:32:17] <twm1010> my zenoss VM is attached a windows box running GSX server, dual 3.2, 4GB ram, i have given zenoss 1GB ram and one CPU
[06-Mar-2008 19:32:22] <twm1010> monitoring 141 other devices
[06-Mar-2008 19:32:35] <twm1010> no issues
[06-Mar-2008 19:35:04] <rdb> yeah I could bump up my RAM that would probably be helpful, it's got 768MB right now.
[06-Mar-2008 19:35:56] <rdb> I think the problem is that the ASA I pointed to my Zenoss syslog was in debug mode ;-)
[06-Mar-2008 19:36:04] <rdb> 55k events in no time flat
[06-Mar-2008 19:40:03] <rdb> thanks for the help
[06-Mar-2008 19:47:39] <idea4gud> locohost: u here?
[06-Mar-2008 19:48:04] <locohost> cool, rdb
[06-Mar-2008 19:48:17] <locohost> sounds liek twm doesnt think you will have a problem with a vm
[06-Mar-2008 19:48:41] <idea4gud> can i install another version say 2.1.71 the latest in other installation
[06-Mar-2008 19:49:08] <idea4gud> i mean since i already hav other version
[06-Mar-2008 19:49:59] <idea4gud> so would be some clash so i do first erase the exisitn version or do i install the new version in a separate directory and is latter possible
[06-Mar-2008 19:53:43] <locohost> sudo rpm -e `rpm -qa|grep zenoss`
[06-Mar-2008 19:54:23] <locohost> i would fully remove it first
[06-Mar-2008 19:59:52] <idea4gud> also i do remember very well that that zenoss 2.1.71 had some problem which i was facing
[06-Mar-2008 19:59:57] <idea4gud> it didnt hav some module in it
[06-Mar-2008 20:00:26] <locohost> libcrypt.so or osmething?
[06-Mar-2008 20:00:26] <idea4gud> but i didnt log the error
[06-Mar-2008 20:00:47] <locohost> the rpm wont install because of dependencies?
[06-Mar-2008 20:01:00] <idea4gud> i guess some thing like that
[06-Mar-2008 20:01:09] <idea4gud> then i moved to 2.1.2 version
[06-Mar-2008 20:01:30] <idea4gud> so is there any way i can retrieve the error that i was facing with 2.1.71
[06-Mar-2008 20:02:32] <locohost> when did you get the error, when you tried to install the rpm?
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:21] <idea4gud> dont remeber exactly
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:41] <locohost> so, is anything currently installed?
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:48] <locohost> or. did you remove it?
[06-Mar-2008 20:03:51] <locohost> rpm -qa|grep zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:04:08] <idea4gud> i have 2.1.2 installed currently
[06-Mar-2008 20:05:31] <locohost> so, do you want to remove it and try to install 2.1.71?
[06-Mar-2008 20:10:05] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:10:23] <idea4gud> but i wanna retrieve the error tht i was facin with 2.1.71
[06-Mar-2008 20:12:05] <locohost> cant you find what you did in your bash history?
[06-Mar-2008 20:12:20] <locohost> or, of you used sudo, it should be in /var/log/secure
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:02] <idea4gud> i was root
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:22] <locohost> naughty
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:37] <locohost> so, sudo cat ~root/.bash_history|grep zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:13:44] <idea4gud> i am new so any silly thing bear with me
[06-Mar-2008 20:14:34] <locohost> its just never to do things as root, mainly for security and auditing
[06-Mar-2008 20:15:49] <locohost> just best*, rather. doesnt really matter
[06-Mar-2008 20:27:21] <locohost> im so behind the times. bgcolor="#FFFFFF" for table tags was depreceated, huh
[06-Mar-2008 20:39:29] <idea4gud> even now when i install 2.1.71 and check /opt/zenoss dir
[06-Mar-2008 20:39:37] <idea4gud> it doesnt show var folder
[06-Mar-2008 20:39:42] <idea4gud> in the zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:41:57] <locohost> and the install went throguyh cleanly?
[06-Mar-2008 20:42:42] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:44:53] <locohost> you didnt have to force it, you just did rpm -ivh?
[06-Mar-2008 20:46:20] <idea4gud> yes i just rpm -Uvh zen*
[06-Mar-2008 20:46:41] <locohost> so, you tried to do an upgrade?
[06-Mar-2008 20:47:19] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:47:45] <idea4gud> so u do think this the reason for not havin var folder in zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 20:48:39] <locohost> i dont know, i kinda doubht it, i think if you give rpm an U (for upgrade) and its not installed, it must just do the same as it would for i (install)
[06-Mar-2008 20:48:58] <locohost> you really should have a var
[06-Mar-2008 20:49:11] <idea4gud> in the /opt/zenoss/ ?
[06-Mar-2008 20:49:20] <locohost> yeah
[06-Mar-2008 20:49:40] <locohost> unless, nothing is changed in /opt/zenoss/var in an upgrade, so it just iggys that folder
[06-Mar-2008 20:50:08] <locohost> maybe that is the reason. Anyone know if using rpm -Uvh would cause /var not to be there?
[06-Mar-2008 20:50:44] <locohost> i suppose it doenst hurt to uninstall it again, and try with an I, your already screwed right? cant break it more
[06-Mar-2008 20:50:55] <idea4gud> yes
[06-Mar-2008 20:58:22] <idea4gud> loco: same thing no var under zenoss but..
[06-Mar-2008 20:58:59] <idea4gud> when ever it installin it says not copyin any file from skel into the directory
[06-Mar-2008 20:59:08] <idea4gud> and skel has a subfolder named VAR
[06-Mar-2008 21:14:51] <locohost> it specificatly says that it is not, huh, weird
[06-Mar-2008 21:15:05] <locohost> and, that dir doesnt exist right? its not still there with bad permissions or something?
[06-Mar-2008 21:15:14] <locohost> you installing as zenoss or root?
[06-Mar-2008 21:17:16] <idea4gud> i am instalin as zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:17:25] <idea4gud> but i do hav folder in the skel dir
[06-Mar-2008 21:17:30] <idea4gud> named var
[06-Mar-2008 21:20:47] <locohost> zenoss has permissions to write to var?
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:21] <locohost> i mean, opt/zenoss/var..well, i guess it would have to
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:28] <locohost> but, i think you want to do the install as root
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:30] <locohost> or with sudo
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:44] <locohost> the install with apply the correct perms
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:54] <idea4gud> wat i am tryin to tel is that there is folder var in skel sub-dir of zenoss DIR
[06-Mar-2008 21:21:55] <Bulwinkle> locohost: what install? zenoss install should ALWAYS be done as zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:23:22] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: what about the var directory?
[06-Mar-2008 21:24:31] <idea4gud> VAR directory is not present in my install under zenoss folder
[06-Mar-2008 21:24:57] <idea4gud> i tried with 2.1.2 also had the same problem
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:19] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: what kind of install? from package or source?
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:28] <idea4gud> rpm package
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:55] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: you should do the package install as root
[06-Mar-2008 21:25:57] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: what distro?
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:00] <idea4gud> centos
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:03] <idea4gud> 5
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:05] <idea4gud> i did as root
[06-Mar-2008 21:26:14] <idea4gud> i am sorry if said i did as zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:28:59] <idea4gud> bin doc etc export extras import include lib libexec log man Products share skel zeoctl
[06-Mar-2008 21:29:08] <idea4gud> these r folder i hav in my zenoss
[06-Mar-2008 21:33:13] <locohost> the zenoss install creates a zenoss user. your telling me for the first implementation of zenoss you should first create a user zenoss, su to that user and then install the rpm
[06-Mar-2008 21:33:54] <idea4gud> u tellin me loco?
[06-Mar-2008 21:34:03] <locohost> not, asking bulwinkle
[06-Mar-2008 21:34:51] <locohost> no* not not
[06-Mar-2008 22:00:54] <maj> guys, for some reason i am getting this error when i try to add device on 2.1.2
[06-Mar-2008 22:00:55] <maj> Traceback (most recent call last): File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 128, in loadDevice except e: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before assignment
[06-Mar-2008 22:02:42] <maj> does anybody know why?
[06-Mar-2008 22:04:12] <locohost> check out line 128 of /usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.p
[06-Mar-2008 22:11:46] <maj> hrm, maybe its because i don't have python-pysnmp2 installed
[06-Mar-2008 22:18:33] <maj> nope
[06-Mar-2008 22:21:29] <maj> ok, i didn't have snmp installed, i.e. netsnmp libs
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[06-Mar-2008 22:54:44] <idea4gud> why does var folder doesnt show up when i install any of the rpms of zenoss
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[07-Mar-2008 02:30:10] <law-monk> how do you manually change the speed of an interface in zenoss? snmp isnt detecting it correctly...
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[07-Mar-2008 09:14:01] <raz> hi guys
[07-Mar-2008 09:14:06] <raz> is there an online demo of zenoss anywhere?
[07-Mar-2008 14:27:33] <locohost> still having trouble with that var folder idea4?
[07-Mar-2008 14:34:41] <btsteve> i am still getting the gaps in my graphs i have been watvhing the log files and these are the errors i have seen.
[07-Mar-2008 14:34:42] <btsteve> http://pastebin.ca/932104
[07-Mar-2008 14:34:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 932104 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Mar-2008 15:05:02] <btsteve> I need help trying to figure out why i am getting gaps in my graphs. there does not appear to be any errors in the logs.
[07-Mar-2008 15:15:01] <locohost> i kinda doubt that message in your pastbin is related to the blank rrds
[07-Mar-2008 15:18:23] <btsteve> ok Any other ideas. It has me stumped.
[07-Mar-2008 15:28:27] <locohost> is this a dedicated system for zenoss?
[07-Mar-2008 15:44:28] <locohost> see if there are any errors in zenperfsnmp
[07-Mar-2008 15:44:36] <locohost> maybe something liek this is happening?
[07-Mar-2008 15:44:36] <locohost> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=528&sid=2fbf54ae4b46f90922a7fdcdd235d949
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[07-Mar-2008 16:07:25] <idea4gud> hi does any hav any idea why var directory is not set up in the installation
[07-Mar-2008 16:07:37] <idea4gud> i tried with diff version but no progress
[07-Mar-2008 16:07:58] <idea4gud> Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[07-Mar-2008 16:07:58] <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[07-Mar-2008 16:21:12] <muqeet> Error: invalid value for -s '/opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[07-Mar-2008 16:21:12] <muqeet> <idea4gud> For help, use /opt/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[07-Mar-2008 16:21:44] <muqeet> any help would be appreciated
[07-Mar-2008 17:09:03] <btsteve> This is what i am getting in my zenperfsnmp http://btsteve.pastebin.ca/932275
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[07-Mar-2008 17:09:16] <btsteve> I am getting Warnings not Errors
[07-Mar-2008 17:17:03] <locohost> steve, are those the devices that are not updating?
[07-Mar-2008 17:18:27] <btsteve> yes that is all of the devices in the system. looks like the graph is not updates at all now.
[07-Mar-2008 17:19:35] <locohost> could it be that it is not finishing polling all the devices within the poll interval?
[07-Mar-2008 17:21:06] <btsteve> i guess so. i think it polls things every 5 mins. where should i change this to test?
[07-Mar-2008 17:22:40] <btsteve> it looks like it is reading the values from the device, but not creating the graph
[07-Mar-2008 17:25:15] <btsteve> ok looks like it might not have liked the IBM blade center control module i was watching. i deleted it and it seems to have started graphing again. i am going to go to lunch and let it graph for a while and check it again.
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:02] <locohost> ibm blade centers! yuck!
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:25] * locohost has 10
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:26] <btsteve> Why yuck?
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:43] <locohost> i dont like the remote management console
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:52] <btsteve> we like it,
[07-Mar-2008 17:26:59] <btsteve> any suggestions on monitoring?
[07-Mar-2008 17:27:11] <locohost> do you have the kvm cards installed in the blades?
[07-Mar-2008 17:28:17] <btsteve> Not 100% sure it have a mgnt module and we are able to get a kvm type screen
[07-Mar-2008 17:28:17] <locohost> not really. maybe there is someway to get info from ibm director, i havent really got a chance to look into that
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:13] <locohost> with the modules, 14 people could control 14 blades in the same chassis concurrently
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:25] <btsteve> cool
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:26] <locohost> without them, you can only do 2, kinda sucks
[07-Mar-2008 17:29:57] <locohost> insert into my_table (name) values ('test'); how do i make that ignore what i said if something with the name test already exists?
[07-Mar-2008 17:30:00] <btsteve> i dont think we have the KVM modules, but we never really have to do anything to them
[07-Mar-2008 17:30:36] <btsteve> Well i am going to let this grapg for a while and check back on it.
[07-Mar-2008 17:30:45] <locohost> gl
[07-Mar-2008 18:40:07] <btsteve> ok looks like killing the Blade Center Monitoring fixed it.
[07-Mar-2008 18:42:31] <btsteve> looks like it was gummng up the whole system.
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[07-Mar-2008 20:09:25] <locohost> maybe it was taking to long to respond?
[07-Mar-2008 20:09:35] <locohost> and your polls were wrapping
[07-Mar-2008 20:59:04] <btsteve> Could have been.
[07-Mar-2008 21:11:33] <locohost> what were you trying to get off the chassis anyway? anyhting useful there? i know there are power stats and stuff in director
[07-Mar-2008 21:30:23] <btsteve> No clue like i said i am new to snmp and i am just trying to setup out network to monitor stuff. You have been a big help thanks.
[07-Mar-2008 21:31:23] <btsteve> you dont know anyone that uses inline corp storage equiptment do you?
[07-Mar-2008 21:32:37] <locohost> no, we have a 2x ds4800's and a netapp
[07-Mar-2008 21:33:49] <btsteve> i have never seen a device i am able to find out so little about.
[07-Mar-2008 21:34:53] <locohost> looking at their website, it seems like they probably suck
[07-Mar-2008 21:35:16] <btsteve> I think they are ok, i know a lot of usenet services use them.
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> know much about html form actions? cant seem to get a simple one to work, probably because i suck at life
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> <FORM ACTION="insertintocmdb" METHOD=GET>
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> <INPUT NAME=cmdb_field_value><INPUT TYPE=submit VALUE="update cmdb">
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> (cmdb_name=devname,cmdb_field = 'domain')
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:06] <locohost> </FORM>
[07-Mar-2008 21:37:17] <locohost> im formatting something wrong
[07-Mar-2008 21:38:39] <btsteve> I dont but i asked my buddy
[07-Mar-2008 21:40:21] <btsteve> ok not a correct form variable
[07-Mar-2008 21:42:22] <locohost> yeah, i knew it wasnt correct, its not working
i could have told myself that[07-Mar-2008 21:43:09] <btsteve> CORRECTED:<FORM ACTION="insertintocmdb" METHOD="GET"> <INPUT NAME="cmdb_field_value" TYPE="submit" VALUE="update cmdb"></FORM>
[07-Mar-2008 21:43:26] <wassy121> Hi there. Is there a way to add a user-editable field to a device listing? Like emergency instructions, or machine notes or something?
[07-Mar-2008 21:43:38] <btsteve> Are you 100% sure this needs a GET? 99% of the time it will be POST
[07-Mar-2008 21:44:40] <locohost> no, i dont know html very well, just kinda of look it up as i go along
[07-Mar-2008 21:47:12] <locohost> now there is no text box to enter my value
[07-Mar-2008 21:47:39] <locohost> wassy: i needed way more fields then zenoss had, so im in the process of tieing into into my own sql backend
[07-Mar-2008 21:52:07] <locohost> well, the clock just struck beer
[07-Mar-2008 21:59:41] <wassy121> Anyone else have an idea on how to add a custom data field with machine notes or similar?
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[10-Mar-2008 04:57:42] <sajith> I'm new to ZenOSS.. Can somebody tell me, how can I avoid the detection of particular service in ZenOSS..such as SMTP..
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[10-Mar-2008 05:18:56] <sajithr> hi.. I'm new to ZenOSS.. can somebody tell me how can I avoid detecting particular services in ZenOSS.
[10-Mar-2008 05:19:03] <sajithr> such as SMTP..
[10-Mar-2008 05:19:58] <sajithr> can somebody help me?
[10-Mar-2008 11:59:39] <Karnaugh> hi
[10-Mar-2008 11:59:46] <Karnaugh> the docs lack a critical piece of information
[10-Mar-2008 11:59:56] <Karnaugh> how do you actualy connect to your zenoss system after install?
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:12] <Karnaugh> I dug out port 8081 from lsof
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:15] <Karnaugh> but it gives faultCode 8002 faultString Unauthorized
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:20] <Karnaugh> which is not useful
[10-Mar-2008 12:00:42] <monrad> it should be 8080
[10-Mar-2008 12:01:49] <Karnaugh> I have a proxy on 8080
[10-Mar-2008 12:01:54] <Karnaugh> why would it default to a proxy port?
[10-Mar-2008 12:02:24] <Karnaugh> doesn't look like a proxy, how silly
[10-Mar-2008 12:02:33] * Karnaugh changes it
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:24] <Xander7> Having some problems with adding devices that I've previously added (and deleted) under a different name
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:34] <Xander7> I keep getting 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx sendto error Host lion and lion.mydomain.net are both using ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:48] <Xander7> where lion.mydomain.net is the old hostname
[10-Mar-2008 12:04:50] <Xander7> and lion in the new
[10-Mar-2008 12:05:12] <Xander7> It still seems to think the fully qualified name is still added
[10-Mar-2008 14:29:58] <locohost> yawn, mornin. stupid daylight savings time
[10-Mar-2008 14:31:55] <locohost> xander, though: try deleting /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/lion.mydomain.net/
[10-Mar-2008 14:31:57] <locohost> maybe..
[10-Mar-2008 14:36:11] <btsteve> I am about to kill Zenoss. The Gaps are back in my graphs again. zenperf keeps reporting it has a problem.
[10-Mar-2008 14:39:15] <locohost> what is its problem?
[10-Mar-2008 14:39:45] <locohost> have you added more devices or more trending or anything?
[10-Mar-2008 14:40:27] <btsteve> I added a cisco router in NY
[10-Mar-2008 14:40:36] <locohost> im conserned because my director looks at my circuit throughput reports every night,and will for sure let me know right away if i start having any problems like you are having
[10-Mar-2008 14:40:38] <locohost> heh
[10-Mar-2008 14:41:30] <btsteve> how do i get rid of the not in topology warnings?
[10-Mar-2008 14:42:54] <locohost> i think there is some file you have to run, something to do with not discoving all the routes from your commgear
[10-Mar-2008 14:44:15] <locohost> do you not have a route to the host its giving you there error for?
[10-Mar-2008 14:44:58] <btsteve> No they are in different datacenters and route acress the internet.
[10-Mar-2008 14:57:26] <locohost> steve: i wonder if there is a threading option, and you can up the amount of threads used for collecting,
[10-Mar-2008 14:57:37] <locohost> again, not sure if that is the problem....
[10-Mar-2008 14:58:05] <locohost> i just looked through a few of the confs looking for something with no luck. although, i kinda remember seeing something like that in my travels
[10-Mar-2008 14:58:36] <btsteve> seems that zenperf process stops working only way to get it back is stop the service and restart
[10-Mar-2008 15:03:16] <locohost> bah, it crashed on your again?
[10-Mar-2008 15:07:17] <locohost> does anyone know if there is some sort of threading option for collection?
[10-Mar-2008 18:06:07] <btsteve> ok looks like anytime it gets hung on a device it stops graphing for all devices.
[10-Mar-2008 18:32:00] <KillMeNow> i've seen similar behavior with MRTG steve
[10-Mar-2008 18:34:18] <locohost> is it a specific device or oid it is hanging on?
[10-Mar-2008 18:39:30] <btsteve> nor sure. Remember it was the bladecenter the other day not it was a cisco router, i deleted and readded it and things are back to normal.
[10-Mar-2008 21:20:34] <idea4gud> hi guyz i need ur help
[10-Mar-2008 21:21:02] <idea4gud> I am still stuck with my Zenoss with varfolder not present /opt/zenoss/
[10-Mar-2008 21:22:41] <idea4gud> now i am tryin to restart the VM but it goes into the infinite loop msg /opt/zenoss/var/zopectlsock not present
[10-Mar-2008 21:22:48] <idea4gud> and it just hangs
[10-Mar-2008 21:23:07] <idea4gud> soi cant do any thing with my VM so is there any way to get rid of this.
[10-Mar-2008 21:36:52] <locohost> you are connecting to the box through the vmware console, and you cant use it because its stuck at that screen, and wont let you ctrl +c out?
[10-Mar-2008 21:36:54] <locohost> is that your issue?
[10-Mar-2008 21:57:05] <idea4gud> no thre issue is when i reboot my machine on console
[10-Mar-2008 21:57:17] <idea4gud> it starts zenoss daemon
[10-Mar-2008 21:57:34] <idea4gud> it stcuks @ zopectl deamon with hangin in the loop
[10-Mar-2008 22:01:01] <b52laptop> hi
[10-Mar-2008 22:01:45] <b52laptop> hm bad place to ask this question : do yu know but any tool more simpler than nagios for sys monitoring and non java && php based
? [10-Mar-2008 22:02:11] <locohost> so, when your system starts up, it stats to load zenoss, and hangs, and never finishes boot?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:15] <locohost> can you un chkconfig it?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:44] <locohost> b52, how about zenoss?
[10-Mar-2008 22:02:45] <locohost>
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:15] <locohost> Im replacing an nms called "Castle Rock" with zenoss
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:23] <b52laptop> locohost, tried it , to master it i have to learn zope/twissted / zenoss internal , .... my life is short man
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:39] <locohost> castle rock is run under windows and is much easier to use, althoguh not as powerful
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:44] <locohost> and, not open source
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:46] <b52laptop> windows
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:49] <b52laptop> no thanks
[10-Mar-2008 22:03:56] <locohost> yeah, thats what i said
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:06] <b52laptop> open source one and simpler than zenoos if possible
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:13] <b52laptop> zenoss sorry
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:14] <b52laptop>
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:19] <locohost> are you looking for a nms, or for trending?
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:25] <locohost> you want a console to fire traps at?
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:32] <locohost> or, you want to trend throughput and stuff?>
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:32] <b52laptop> no web ui
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:51] <b52laptop> monitor systems / routeur / bandiwuch ....
[10-Mar-2008 22:04:55] <b52laptop> grrr
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:02] <b52laptop> i think i have to stick to zenoss
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:03] <b52laptop> fulgas,
?[10-Mar-2008 22:05:04] <locohost> hp open view, solar winds orion, netcool
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:17] <b52laptop> hm checking those
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:27] <locohost> very expensive
[10-Mar-2008 22:05:31] <b52laptop> locohost, i forget to add : no j2ee and no php
?[10-Mar-2008 22:11:15] <idea4gud> which zenoss version should i download considering the FACT I TRIED 2.1.2-0.el5.rpm and 2.1.71-0.el5.rpm
[10-Mar-2008 22:11:45] <idea4gud> and both of them had problem that VAR folder is not present in /opt/zenoss/
[10-Mar-2008 22:13:32] <locohost> mmmm i love care bears!
[10-Mar-2008 22:14:18] <locohost> remind me to lock my computer next time i smoke a cigarette
[10-Mar-2008 22:15:28] <locohost> idea, i use the rhel 4 version under centos 5
[10-Mar-2008 22:15:46] <locohost> your doing rpm -ivh, right, not Uvh
[10-Mar-2008 22:16:04] <idea4gud> zenossrhel4 u mean
[10-Mar-2008 22:16:06] <idea4gud> yes
[10-Mar-2008 22:16:39] <locohost> yeah, .el4.rpm
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:02] <idea4gud> also wat is this zenoss.2.1.2.x86_vmware
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:19] <idea4gud> does it zenoss built on VMware machine
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:37] <locohost> i think thats the virtual apliance
[10-Mar-2008 22:18:51] <locohost> appliance
[10-Mar-2008 22:19:08] <locohost> good for testing, or figuring out what its all about, not not good for produciton
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[10-Mar-2008 23:17:56] <idea4gud> locohost: it says i have conflict dependencies
[10-Mar-2008 23:18:11] <idea4gud> this isthe Instruction guide am using http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el4/
[10-Mar-2008 23:18:31] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL4 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[11-Mar-2008 01:36:10] <loco> all zope and no beer make locohost host go somethign something
[11-Mar-2008 01:57:47] <loco> is anyone using zenoss as a cmdb?
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[11-Mar-2008 05:00:09] <hanthana> Hi guys
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:35] <hanthana> I got following while starting zenoss on Fedora 8
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> # /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 100: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 100: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[11-Mar-2008 05:00:37] <hanthana> Daemon: zenhub starting...
[11-Mar-2008 05:01:27] <hanthana> I use zenoss-2.1.72-0.fc8
[11-Mar-2008 05:01:47] <hanthana> downloaded compiled rpm
[11-Mar-2008 05:02:02] <hanthana> and installed mysql 5 too
[11-Mar-2008 05:02:27] <hanthana> appreciate your help
[11-Mar-2008 05:07:01] <locohost__> it did not install right, does that file exist?
[11-Mar-2008 05:07:07] <locohost__> is your bid dir empty?
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[11-Mar-2008 05:39:04] <hanthana> locohost, bid means?
[11-Mar-2008 05:39:11] <hanthana> bin ?
[11-Mar-2008 05:40:31] <hanthana> locohost__, /opt/zenoss/bin/
[11-Mar-2008 05:40:31] <hanthana> is there
[11-Mar-2008 05:41:54] <hanthana> zenoss exist
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[11-Mar-2008 08:52:40] <sajithr> I'm net to ZenOSS..what's the difference between "ZenManager" and "Manager" roles ?
[11-Mar-2008 11:10:45] <sajithr> can somebody explain me the difference between ZenManager and Manager roles?
[11-Mar-2008 11:56:55] <sajithr_> navin:
[11-Mar-2008 12:34:01] <pablo26> hi all, is there any way to set up dependecies on zenoss (automatic dependencies wont work since i have vpn tunnels)
[11-Mar-2008 12:34:21] <pablo26> yesterday i got 300 emails because a conection went down
[11-Mar-2008 12:38:18] <[Wiebel]> hmzm
[11-Mar-2008 12:38:22] <[Wiebel]> hi
[11-Mar-2008 12:38:49] <[Wiebel]> when makeing templates using COMMAND with SSh it runs /opt/zenoss/libexec <command> on the remote host
[11-Mar-2008 12:39:00] <[Wiebel]> *making
[11-Mar-2008 12:40:05] <pablo26> i think that can be configured on xproperties of the device
[11-Mar-2008 12:41:35] <[Wiebel]> what about a device class?
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:05] <[Wiebel]> ah
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:08] <[Wiebel]> indeed you are right
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:18] <pablo26> in that class go to zproperties and u will see that path
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:23] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:26] <[Wiebel]> tnx
[11-Mar-2008 12:42:32] <pablo26> yw
[11-Mar-2008 14:30:15] <[Wiebel]> gotta love the zenoss support guys
[11-Mar-2008 14:30:24] <[Wiebel]> great support
[11-Mar-2008 14:30:26] <[Wiebel]> so far
[11-Mar-2008 15:00:46] <pablo26> is there any way to set up dependecies on zenoss (automatic dependencies wont work since i have vpn tunnels)
[11-Mar-2008 15:24:57] <selfish> I would like to know why auto-disco keeps adding new networks that I already deleted to my network list
[11-Mar-2008 15:25:19] <selfish> Is there a way to turn off auto-disco completely? I already did it in zProperties.
[11-Mar-2008 15:26:37] <b52laptop> KageSenshi, evening there :d
[11-Mar-2008 15:29:21] <locohost> anyone know where that main zenoss logo image lives?
[11-Mar-2008 15:33:00] <selfish> nope
[11-Mar-2008 15:38:08] <selfish> time to dig through source
[11-Mar-2008 15:38:14] <locohost> woot!
[11-Mar-2008 15:58:47] <pablo26> selfish: u can lock that interfaces from discovery, they will keep getting performance data but wont discover new netowrks
[11-Mar-2008 15:59:14] <pablo26> choose the network in the device and choose lock and select both locks
[11-Mar-2008 16:08:26] <selfish> but is there no global auto-disco shutoff? I have a large network, i want to start small and monitor only what I tell it to.
[11-Mar-2008 16:08:40] <idea4gud> loco: u r here
[11-Mar-2008 16:08:56] <idea4gud> I am doin rpm -ivh zenoss-dep/
[11-Mar-2008 16:09:13] <idea4gud> it says conflicts with dependencies
[11-Mar-2008 16:11:49] <locohost> what dependencies?
[11-Mar-2008 16:12:23] <idea4gud> Mysql conflicts with Mysql present in Zenos dep similarly MySQL-server
[11-Mar-2008 16:12:36] <locohost> rpm -qa|grep -i mysql
[11-Mar-2008 16:13:59] <idea4gud> i get same package with 2 entries
[11-Mar-2008 16:14:09] <locohost> yeah, what packages?
[11-Mar-2008 16:14:32] <idea4gud> mysql-server-5.0.22-2.2.el5_1.1 libdbi-dbd-mysql-0.8.1a-1.2.2 MySQL-python-1.2.1-1 mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.12-2.2 perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0007-1.fc6 mysql-5.0.22-2.2.el5_1.1
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:18] <locohost> you got the packages you need, i think for some reason sometimes zenoss wants it to be called MYSQL-Server or something, you got the sql you need
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:25] <locohost> does it complain about anything other then sql?
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:31] <b52deb> hi
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:48] <locohost> your running on fedora?
[11-Mar-2008 16:15:57] <b52deb> i'm in the process of installing zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:02] <b52deb> and metting this error :
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:06] <b52deb> /usr/bin/python2.4 genpatchdeps.py >.patchdeps
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:06] <b52deb> /bin/sh: .patchdeps: Permission denied
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:06] <b52deb> make: *** No rule to make target `.patchdeps', needed by `default'. Stop.
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:17] <locohost> sudo?
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:39] <locohost> b52, are you using sudo?
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:54] <b52deb> locohost, nop "su" to switch to zenoss user
[11-Mar-2008 16:16:59] <idea4gud> new line
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:20] <locohost> your trying to install it as zenoss?
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:22] <idea4gud> loco: i am runnin Red EL
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:50] <idea4gud> centos also Dependecy conflict occur with mysql and mysql-server
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:54] <locohost> ahh, you have a fc6 perl-dbd installed, i suppose that will works, its all rhel
[11-Mar-2008 16:17:59] <b52deb> locohost, yeap i mean i'm not installing as root , but as the readme said , i'm installing under the use r " zenoss"
[11-Mar-2008 16:19:11] <idea4gud> was that msg to me loco: abt fc6 perl
[11-Mar-2008 16:19:37] <locohost> perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0007-1.fc
[11-Mar-2008 16:20:41] <locohost> thats strange, i installed zenoss as root, that does not make sence to me
[11-Mar-2008 16:20:54] <locohost> anyway, did you put zenoss in the sudoers?
[11-Mar-2008 16:21:27] <b52deb> locohost, i don't have sudo installed
[11-Mar-2008 16:21:34] <b52deb> should i install it ?
[11-Mar-2008 16:22:07] <b52deb> hm trying as root to see what will happen !
[11-Mar-2008 16:22:14] <locohost> what distro are you using?
[11-Mar-2008 16:22:49] <locohost> you installing from src, or rpm?
[11-Mar-2008 16:23:16] <selfish> I have a better question, are you trying to install this on a production machine?
[11-Mar-2008 16:23:56] <selfish> if no, then wipe the disks, install CentOS 5.1, and follow the zenoss install guide.
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:05] <b52deb> locohost, debian , i'm installing from source
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:05] <selfish> I had it working in about 30 minutes
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:08] <b52deb> selfish, lolllll :d
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:13] <b52deb> i have tried centos 4
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:14] <b52deb> before
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:20] <b52deb> yes it's working like a charm
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:32] <locohost> yuck, non redhad based distros
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:38] <locohost> hat*
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:39] <b52deb> selfish, no way i can move from my debian
[11-Mar-2008 16:24:49] <selfish> pfft, debian is stagnating
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:17] <b52deb> selfish, we call that , stable
i love old stuff , that doesn't change it have a special charm :"D[11-Mar-2008 16:25:18] <selfish> it's only a few years behind the development cycle, no mystery that you're having dependency problems
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:19] <idea4gud> locohost : Perl DB FC6 Deosnt complain
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:33] <idea4gud> only conflict occurs with mysql and mysql-server
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:47] <locohost> yeah, i didnt think that would cause a problem with zenoss, completly unrelated
[11-Mar-2008 16:25:47] <idea4gud> also when i do grep i get mysql 2 times
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:02] <selfish> b52deb: I'll take "working" over "charm" :-D
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:04] <locohost> so, i think you could probably go ahead and install the rpm with --no-deps
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:12] <locohost> and ignore that mysql error
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:17] <locohost> i think it will find mysql just fine
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:17] <b52deb> selfish, lol
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:41] <idea4gud> well i wa thinkin if i did no-deps then i mite face same problem like last time
[11-Mar-2008 16:26:53] <idea4gud> of not zope.conf
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:00] <idea4gud> also VAr folder not present
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:22] <locohost> did you do no-deps last time?
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:37] <locohost> i think if it were to cause a problem, it would cause a problem with mysql, and you will figure out if that is not working really quick
[11-Mar-2008 16:27:38] <idea4gud> for uninstallin i did
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:07] <idea4gud> k but on website they EL4 theywant to install zenoss dep
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:08] <locohost> idea? is this a vm?
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:11] <idea4gud> yes
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:18] <idea4gud> Centos runnin VM
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:26] <idea4gud> Vmwae console
[11-Mar-2008 16:28:47] <locohost> I had an idea the other night. how are your disks layed out? is it a san?
[11-Mar-2008 16:29:32] <idea4gud> no i am runnin a VM on network
[11-Mar-2008 16:29:58] <idea4gud> i guess my priviliges are limited to the home of User on linx network
[11-Mar-2008 16:30:18] <locohost> no idea what your saying
[11-Mar-2008 16:30:25] <locohost> its not a san, its on a network?
[11-Mar-2008 16:30:37] <idea4gud> i thinnk so
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:16] <locohost> do you know what kinda san, or what kinda server?
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:34] <locohost> there is a bug in vmware that can cause your fs to go readonly durring high io
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:40] <idea4gud> no idea
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:42] <locohost> on some sans
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:58] <idea4gud> i am just runnin VM from home account on linux user account
[11-Mar-2008 16:31:59] <locohost> so, you dont have root access to the serveR?
[11-Mar-2008 16:32:03] <idea4gud> noppes
[11-Mar-2008 16:33:53] <locohost> so, is there like a sysadmin that gives you the permissions you need?
[11-Mar-2008 16:34:01] <locohost> because you cant install stuff on a server that you cannot write to
[11-Mar-2008 16:34:43] <idea4gud> yeah there is sysadmin but he wil just provide user priviliges
[11-Mar-2008 16:34:56] <idea4gud> and i can play with my acount how ever i want
[11-Mar-2008 16:35:24] <locohost> /proc/scsi/mptspi
[11-Mar-2008 16:35:27] <locohost> does that folder exist?
[11-Mar-2008 16:35:32] <locohost> on the box?
[11-Mar-2008 16:36:05] <idea4gud> u knw yes
[11-Mar-2008 16:36:45] <idea4gud> on my VM i can d any thing rite so
[11-Mar-2008 16:36:53] <idea4gud> just guide me i wil do the same
[11-Mar-2008 16:37:38] <locohost> durring the install/troubleshooting process, did you ever run into the problem where your vm hung, and you could not do anyhting, or get any file system is readonly errors?
[11-Mar-2008 16:39:12] <idea4gud> nopes only thing tht occured was Daemon Zopectl was not runnin
[11-Mar-2008 16:39:20] <idea4gud> i mean it just hanged
[11-Mar-2008 16:39:43] <locohost> did you need to restart the system?
[11-Mar-2008 16:40:52] <idea4gud> i just restarted the VM
[11-Mar-2008 16:41:12] <locohost> if you use lsi logic adapters, there is a bug in vmware that can cuase the fs to go readonly durring hi io, the fix is to install mptscsi-rhel4gos-3.02.62.01-0vmw
[11-Mar-2008 16:41:31] <locohost> a reboot will temporarly resolve it, until io is high again.
[11-Mar-2008 16:41:50] <locohost> anyway, something to keep in mind, sounds like that is not your issue
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:22] <locohost> i stand by my suggestion of installing it with no-deps, i think sql will work
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:34] <idea4gud> k
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:35] <locohost> as long as it only says your missing sql. its just not looking for it in the right place
[11-Mar-2008 16:42:40] <locohost> i think it will find it in the instlal
[11-Mar-2008 16:43:13] <idea4gud> thnx wil trble u if ther is more trble
[11-Mar-2008 16:44:18] <idea4gud> loco:do i hav to install as zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 16:44:29] <idea4gud> bcz zenoss is not added still
[11-Mar-2008 16:48:37] <rdb> I want to graph the output from a Microsoft SQL server stored procedure in Zenoss. What would be the components in Zenoss I would use?
[11-Mar-2008 16:48:59] <rdb> would I create a performance template?
[11-Mar-2008 16:50:37] <rdb> I've done this in cacti but I'm just learning Zenoss...
[11-Mar-2008 16:51:16] <rdb> I think I'll use winexe to execute a vbscript that runs the stored procedure and returns the results
[11-Mar-2008 16:51:38] <rdb> what I'm missing are the zenoss pieces of the puzzle that bring it all together.
[11-Mar-2008 16:52:40] <rdb> cause winexe to be executed, on certain devices, and create an rrd and update it on x interval, etc.
[11-Mar-2008 16:55:01] <rdb> what are the things under the "OS" tab called?
[11-Mar-2008 16:55:02] <locohost> idea, i think if you try to install an rpm as a user, it will give fail becaues of permssions, i think you need to use root
[11-Mar-2008 16:59:11] <idea4gud> i did as --nodeps zenoss it just home directory already present
[11-Mar-2008 16:59:40] <idea4gud> again i dont havfolder under opt/zenoss/var
[11-Mar-2008 17:00:38] <locohost> /opt/zenoss/var ? or /usr/local/opt/zenoss/var?
[11-Mar-2008 17:01:37] <idea4gud> opt/zenoss/var
[11-Mar-2008 17:02:34] <locohost> u were doing the install as root?
[11-Mar-2008 17:03:36] <idea4gud> yes
[11-Mar-2008 17:07:50] <idea4gud> brb
[11-Mar-2008 17:10:30] <locohost> did you manually create the var folder? or touch the permissions on the zenoss foldeR?
[11-Mar-2008 17:26:14] <b52deb> anyone have meet this before http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13873 ?
[11-Mar-2008 17:26:30] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Fedora 8 issues (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Mar-2008 18:03:56] <idea4gud> loco u back
[11-Mar-2008 18:45:08] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[11-Mar-2008 20:00:41] <locohost> this room is much busier then the zeonoss room
[11-Mar-2008 20:18:56] <idea4gud> hi loco: comin to query for changing folder permission or creatin manually i haventdone either of them
[11-Mar-2008 20:19:15] <idea4gud> <locohost> did you manually create the var folder? or touch the permissions on the zenoss foldeR?
[11-Mar-2008 20:38:30] <locohost> i wanted to make sure you didnt mess up the permissions on them
[11-Mar-2008 20:38:44] <locohost> try to touch /opt/zenoss/var/test as zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 20:38:59] <locohost> maybe the zenoss perms are screwed or soemthing
[11-Mar-2008 21:01:10] <idea4gud> loco :try to touch /opt/zenoss/var/test as zenoss
[11-Mar-2008 21:28:43] <b52deb> any one could help me to browse perf of my routeur
[11-Mar-2008 21:28:47] <b52deb> nothing apppear
[11-Mar-2008 21:51:16] <b52deb> for example /Devices /Network /Router /Huawei HG550 /os /ppp_8_35_1 the graphs of this interface are empty
[11-Mar-2008 21:51:24] <b52deb> the routeur is an adsl routeur
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:01] <johns55> are u using snmp to monitor this router?
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:22] <b52deb> yeap in the zProperties
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:28] <b52deb> i change the zcommand
[11-Mar-2008 21:53:32] <b52deb> from ssh to snmp
[11-Mar-2008 21:54:45] <johns55> have u tried to do an snmpwalk against this router?
[11-Mar-2008 21:54:54] <b52deb> johns55, yeap working
[11-Mar-2008 21:55:10] <b52deb> i think i missed something in the zProperties !
[11-Mar-2008 21:55:59] <johns55> you've tried to remodel this device?
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:09] <b52deb> hm !
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:14] <b52deb> how to that ?
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:29] <johns55> go to /Devices /Network /Router /Huawei HG550
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:35] <b52deb> ok
[11-Mar-2008 21:56:50] <johns55> then from the pull down menu select manage then model
[11-Mar-2008 22:00:45] <b52deb> johns55, http://pastebin.com/m669a16de the result seems normal
[11-Mar-2008 22:00:49] <b52deb> but stillno perf
[11-Mar-2008 22:00:52] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:04] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:15] <b52deb> should i give the login and pass to the routeur
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:20] <b52deb> for monitoring true snmp
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:21] <b52deb> ?
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:30] <johns55> what?
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:40] <johns55> snmp is monitored using an snmp community key
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:40] <b52deb> johns55, forget :d
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:43] <johns55> not the pw to the router
[11-Mar-2008 22:01:48] <b52deb> ah ok
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:26] <johns55> there's probably something in your router that is not collecting that particular info
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:37] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:39] <b52deb> in snmp
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:40] <johns55> from the modeling it looks fine
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:58] <johns55> yes snmp in the router
[11-Mar-2008 22:02:58] <b52deb> zSnmpVer equal by default to 1
[11-Mar-2008 22:03:06] <b52deb> i tried with snmpwalk
[11-Mar-2008 22:03:11] <b52deb> with the param v2c
[11-Mar-2008 22:03:19] <b52deb> i'm changing it to see what hapening
[11-Mar-2008 22:04:55] <b52deb> hm another thing in the status bar, there is 0 status
hm should be at less a couple of them ![11-Mar-2008 22:04:56] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:08:44] <b52deb> i changed the snmpver to 2 but http://pastebin.com/m6428c52f
[11-Mar-2008 22:08:51] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Mar-2008 22:08:59] <b52deb> when i select snmp walk command he do it with version 1
[11-Mar-2008 22:09:00] <b52deb> hm
[11-Mar-2008 22:14:52] <locohost_> you can edit the snmpwalk command in the drop down menu manually
[11-Mar-2008 22:15:41] <locohost_> yeah
[11-Mar-2008 22:15:49] <locohost_> the down arrow, then administration
[11-Mar-2008 22:15:54] <locohost_> click on snmpwalk
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:02] <locohost_> snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp} system
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:16] <locohost_> change v1 to v2 or v2c
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:30] <b52deb> hm ok
[11-Mar-2008 22:16:40] <locohost_> i think where you changd it in preferences or where ever is for collection
[11-Mar-2008 22:17:36] <locohost_> ive made custom commands that do things like restart apache
[11-Mar-2008 22:17:37] <b52deb> nice !!
[11-Mar-2008 22:18:01] <b52deb> brb (eating quickly :d )
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[11-Mar-2008 22:37:22] <b52deb> locohost_, still there ?
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[12-Mar-2008 00:33:30] <loco> bah, all of a sudden zenhub wont stay running after i restarted zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 00:42:24] <loco> WARNING zenhub: removing listener
[12-Mar-2008 00:43:05] <kevet> anyone experienced repeated zenwin heartbeat failure on your setups? trying to find out what causes this. version 2.1.2
[12-Mar-2008 00:58:29] <loco> doesnt sound familiar kevet
[12-Mar-2008 00:58:54] <loco> anyone ever have zenhub not start after a restart, and inturn not be able to access the web if at all?
[12-Mar-2008 01:00:44] <loco> wtf, its always something, ill deal with it tomorrow.
[12-Mar-2008 01:00:52] * loco gets frustrated and goes to a bar
[12-Mar-2008 01:01:14] <kevet> weird. i'm trying to have my rpath appliance update now *crosses fingers*
[12-Mar-2008 01:01:24] <kevet> hoping a new version helps
[12-Mar-2008 04:40:21] <goobie> hi there
[12-Mar-2008 04:41:22] <goobie> hello
[12-Mar-2008 04:51:26] <goobie> hello is anyone there
[12-Mar-2008 04:51:27] <goobie> ?
[12-Mar-2008 04:51:37] <goobie> I have a question..
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[12-Mar-2008 05:42:38] <goobie> hello?
[12-Mar-2008 09:26:24] <sajithr> can somebody describe the difference between Manager and ZenManager roles?
[12-Mar-2008 10:07:36] <b52laptop> morning
[12-Mar-2008 10:09:31] <sajithr> b52laptop: can you pls describe the difference between Manager and ZenManager roles?
[12-Mar-2008 10:10:20] <b52laptop> sajithr, sorry bro , i don't know the difference . my self i'm stuck with printing the perf of a routeur interface :d
[12-Mar-2008 10:10:43] <sajithr> ;-)
[12-Mar-2008 10:11:02] <b52laptop> :d
[12-Mar-2008 10:11:02] <sajithr> no probs bro..
[12-Mar-2008 10:17:41] <b52deb> well anyone could give me a hand with my routeur no event appear , perf of interfaces don't appear , but snmp is working fine
[12-Mar-2008 10:29:46] <sajithr> what about collector plugins? is the SNMPWALK sucessfull?
[12-Mar-2008 10:32:55] <b52deb> sajithr, the snmpwalk is successful
[12-Mar-2008 10:35:05] <sajithr> bro.. check collector plugins..
[12-Mar-2008 10:35:27] <b52deb> hm
[12-Mar-2008 10:40:33] <b52deb> sajithr, the collecteur plugins give the option of monitoring for example routeur interface should basicly print zenoss.snmp.IpserviceMap . i think it's the baseic one , but the graphs are emtpy
[12-Mar-2008 10:41:53] <sajithr> i may take a while to draw the graph.. anyway what can you see? an empty graph or NO graph?
[12-Mar-2008 10:42:15] <b52deb> sajithr, No graph :d
[12-Mar-2008 10:42:39] <sajithr> is that a cisco router?
[12-Mar-2008 10:42:49] <b52deb> no a huawei one
[12-Mar-2008 10:43:19] <b52deb> /Devices /Network /Router /Huawei HG550
[12-Mar-2008 10:43:48] <b52deb> wait i'm gone take a screenshot of the interface that doesn't print give me a minute
[12-Mar-2008 10:50:06] <b52laptop> sajithr, first question is it normal to have no event list in the routeur : http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8554/zenoss1sj6.jpg
[12-Mar-2008 10:50:26] <b52laptop> sajithr, http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4421/zenoss2xw3.jpg my empty graph interface
[12-Mar-2008 11:19:41] <sajithr> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY notebook
[12-Mar-2008 11:42:53] <b52deb> hm i run a snmpwalk on the device and at the end i got : No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
[12-Mar-2008 13:34:28] <lacin> hi, I just installed ZenOSS, befor Zenoss was using MRTG, but we are searching Usefull monitorin program for WEB services monitoring, like Apache, FTP, SSH, Tomcat an qmail monitoring (All in One) solution
[12-Mar-2008 13:34:56] <lacin> any body has idea about this case? (Is Zenoss suitable for us?
[12-Mar-2008 13:35:22] <lacin> I want to know how many user Logged in, Uses FTP, How much bandwith each VHost uses and ...
[12-Mar-2008 14:48:52] <pinger> good morning
[12-Mar-2008 14:50:20] <pinger> quick question concerning loggin and zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 14:50:36] <pinger> i know you can setup syslog to forward to zenoss, but what about clamav logs?
[12-Mar-2008 14:50:55] <pinger> also, is there a way to check the windows event logs without installing an event log daemon?
[12-Mar-2008 14:51:04] <pinger> or will the WMI process check that?
[12-Mar-2008 16:22:14] <malbon> hi folks.
[12-Mar-2008 16:23:58] <malbon> I am having a problem with understanding how to configure ZenJMX, I want to use a source other than jmxrmi, how do I change this?
[12-Mar-2008 16:55:11] <purevol> hello
[12-Mar-2008 16:55:17] <purevol> anyone know anything about check_ping?
[12-Mar-2008 18:00:29] <loco> whats up guys?
[12-Mar-2008 18:04:36] <loco> so, after a restart zopectl daemon manager not running, i dont think i changed anything that would cause it not to start, i did rename a device..
[12-Mar-2008 18:09:01] <loco> phew, i scared myself
[12-Mar-2008 18:09:13] <zenoss_nub> lol
[12-Mar-2008 18:09:34] <jb> anyone know about creating new dashboard portlets?
[12-Mar-2008 18:11:17] <loco> had to drop $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec to get it to start
[12-Mar-2008 18:13:33] <loco> is there anyhting in zenoss that uses the phrase "Some Flavor of Linux" to describe os? or is that part of the code i added that is not working?
[12-Mar-2008 18:22:41] <zenoss_nub> is importing bulk devices into zenoss via the cli and REST command seem an intelligent option to creating xlm for all the devices i have in my spreadsheet?
[12-Mar-2008 18:27:55] <loco> nub: we used a bash loop to cycle through machine files and hit the api via wget to add 800+ devices to our zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 18:29:45] <zenoss_nub> nice thats kinda where i was headed - i have all the info in nagios cfg files but i done see anything easily translating them - so i thought it might be easier to just start with the spreadsheet anyways
[12-Mar-2008 18:30:40] <zenoss_nub> i am on hour 3 of my zenoss experience lol so i appreciate the response loco
[12-Mar-2008 18:32:34] <loco> cant you maybe awk the ip or host names out?
[12-Mar-2008 18:32:37] <loco> are all yoru hosts in dns?
[12-Mar-2008 18:34:16] <zenoss_nub> i thought about that too - but i only have a few hundred devices and i want to update some of the info anyways from the spreadsheet so i thought it would be best to start from there. i did think about using a script to rewrite the cfg's to xml but the twitching was too much for me
[12-Mar-2008 18:36:02] <loco> well, i dont remember existly how to do it, but there is a url you can hit to say, change the device os in the db, and one to change the location, etc so it is possible
[12-Mar-2008 18:36:11] <loco> what kind of info do you have in yoru sheet?
[12-Mar-2008 18:36:15] <loco> cmdb like stuff, i imagain
[12-Mar-2008 18:37:50] <zenoss_nub> i have ip/host/description/location/alert groups/dependencies/rack #/port#/ (can you tell i am/was a nagios user?
[12-Mar-2008 18:38:38] <loco> thats not so bad..i actually used to be a windows user.
[12-Mar-2008 18:38:43] <loco> bah, i cant beleive i told anyone that
[12-Mar-2008 18:38:50] <zenoss_nub> lol
[12-Mar-2008 18:39:47] <zenoss_nub> as i understand zenoss i need to setup my classes(events,devices,services,processes) then add my devices then associate them
[12-Mar-2008 18:39:51] <loco> i was actually tasked with integrating our existing mysql cmdb into zenoss
[12-Mar-2008 18:40:02] <zenoss_nub> oh cool'age
[12-Mar-2008 18:41:52] <loco> zenoss just didnt have enough fields, plus we like querieing sql when we need something, its fun!
[12-Mar-2008 18:42:16] <zenoss_nub> drop table ... oops
[12-Mar-2008 18:43:18] <loco> thats where the nightly cron'd dump comes in handy
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[12-Mar-2008 18:45:05] <zenoss_nub> i have dug those out a few times myself - late night sql'ing and forgetting the 'where' part of the delete from table command - you only do that once before you learn heh
[12-Mar-2008 19:03:37] <loco> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
[12-Mar-2008 19:03:45] <loco> what do you guys think of my modified hardware tab?
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[12-Mar-2008 19:06:38] <jp10558> When you install a zenpack, do you need to run it as the Zenoss user?
[12-Mar-2008 19:07:27] <jp10558> nevermind, I missed it in the FAQ
[12-Mar-2008 19:10:18] <zenoss_nub> nice work loco
[12-Mar-2008 19:27:03] <loco> thanks _nub.
[12-Mar-2008 19:40:44] <btsteve> Hey has any one used zenoss to graph a query from a MSSQL database?
[12-Mar-2008 20:01:07] <selfish> what are you trying to graph?
[12-Mar-2008 20:01:14] <selfish> performance? record set?
[12-Mar-2008 20:01:21] <selfish> you need to be more specific
[12-Mar-2008 20:04:10] <btsteve> We have a query that on the database that returned 3 values. we would like to have a graph of those values through out the day. they woul only increase as the day progresses
[12-Mar-2008 20:28:13] <loco> ive got the results of a ruby script i wrote to trend, and a few other custom things, so its definatly possible
[12-Mar-2008 20:28:30] <loco> might be better off doing that in cacti, that have some cool templates
[12-Mar-2008 20:29:09] <loco> good sql stats are on my to do list, but i have not gotten to that yet
[12-Mar-2008 20:30:44] <loco> http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=11010&highlight=mysql
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[12-Mar-2008 20:32:59] <loco> if you just want the 3 values, it would be pretty easy to scrpt it in snmp and get it though the ucd extentions
[12-Mar-2008 20:34:56] <zenoss_nub> thanks for your help today loco - i will talk to you tomorrow
[12-Mar-2008 20:35:34] <loco> no problem
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:24] <loco> here is an example of one way you could do it steve.
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:27] <loco> exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.56 value /usr/local/bin/ruby /usr/local/bin/grabstat.rb
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:29] <loco> in snmpd.conf
[12-Mar-2008 20:36:43] <loco> where grabstat.rb is a ruby script that returns an interger
[12-Mar-2008 20:37:18] <loco> then you can just graph .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.56 as a custom snmp thingie
[12-Mar-2008 20:37:45] <loco> or exec .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.57 vmusage /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/vmwatch.sh
[12-Mar-2008 20:39:20] <loco> ...2021.54+ is is the oid space to use for exec in snmpd.conf
[12-Mar-2008 20:52:29] <loco> but then anyone who can snmpwalk the device can run taht script, so be careful, and dont do anything like that if you have snmp open to the public
[12-Mar-2008 22:49:53] <idea4gud> hi guyz i am tryin to run zenoss in VM player
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:06] <idea4gud> but i get this error
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:09] <idea4gud> Type: ConflictError
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:09] <idea4gud> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x0f4f, class Products.ZenModel.DataRoot.DataRoot, serial this txn started with 0x037464834ed03f00 2008-03-12 16:35:18.471905, serial currently committed 0x037465bb335f9477 2008-03-12 21:47:12.040631)
[12-Mar-2008 22:50:15] <idea4gud> any suggestions
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[13-Mar-2008 03:03:53] <greed> Hello, Can zenoss do XMPP messaging ?
[13-Mar-2008 03:55:25] <sajithr> hi.. Can we set ZenOSS to NOT to detect particular host in a given period of time?
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[13-Mar-2008 13:08:09] <locohost> <sajithr>: your looking for a maintance window i think
[13-Mar-2008 13:37:17] <locohost> what do you guys think of the custom fields i added to my hardware tab?
[13-Mar-2008 13:37:21] <locohost> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
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[13-Mar-2008 14:01:27] <aurax> i have problem with zenoss:
[13-Mar-2008 14:01:33] <aurax> i am getting : <DataRoot at broken>
[13-Mar-2008 14:01:44] <aurax> while trying to access it using a web browser
[13-Mar-2008 14:27:57] <Funky_> cls
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:01] <idea4gud> can i monitor systems and services using zenoss virtual appliance
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:13] <idea4gud> like i mean my network is really small
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:39] <idea4gud> 5 servers and 10 clients and 10 services
[13-Mar-2008 15:18:48] <idea4gud> most of them web services
[13-Mar-2008 15:19:33] <locohost> maybe as an interim solution while you get a real zenoss server working
[13-Mar-2008 15:58:29] <idea4gud> i have my virtual appliance on my personal laptop runnin on wireless network
[13-Mar-2008 15:59:00] <idea4gud> and when i enter my the ip address of machine which i want to monitor
[13-Mar-2008 15:59:04] <idea4gud> it doesn resp
[13-Mar-2008 15:59:23] <idea4gud> in other words i search using ip adress it returns NILL
[13-Mar-2008 16:46:14] <idea4gud> i do auto discovery i get no device discovered
[13-Mar-2008 16:46:26] <idea4gud> but i am able to ping from to that ip address
[13-Mar-2008 17:11:36] <malbon> hi, any zenjmx guru's here?
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[13-Mar-2008 18:35:44] <Bulwinkle> I just upgraded my kernel to 2.6.24 from factory and now it won't let me long in with any account
[13-Mar-2008 18:38:37] <malbon> Bulwinkle: are you zenjmx friendly/knowledgeable?
[13-Mar-2008 18:39:00] <Bulwinkle> malbon: I don't even know what the hell that is
[13-Mar-2008 18:39:38] <malbon> the jmx connector for zenoss?
[13-Mar-2008 18:59:51] <Bulwinkle> any ideas why I may be able to log in via ssh but not in to the console?
[13-Mar-2008 19:33:57] <idea4gud> which distro of linux works seemlessly with zenoss
[13-Mar-2008 19:34:29] <idea4gud> i hav been workin on centos but i am stuck @ some point with VAR folder not present in opt/var/zenoss
[13-Mar-2008 19:34:57] <idea4gud> also i am newbie to linux
[13-Mar-2008 19:46:46] <Bulwinkle> idea4gud: opt/zenoss/var
[13-Mar-2008 20:00:43] <idea4gud> bulwink: i tried 2 installations of zenoss2.1,2
[13-Mar-2008 20:00:48] <idea4gud> and 2.1.7
[13-Mar-2008 20:01:14] <idea4gud> when i do rpm the folder /opt/zenoss/var is not created
[13-Mar-2008 20:19:33] <locohost> bulwinkle, you upgrade your kernel, and now you cant get into shell session?
[13-Mar-2008 20:19:39] <locohost> or, you cant login go zenoss?
[13-Mar-2008 20:20:03] <Bulwinkle> locohost: I can get in via ssh but not console
[13-Mar-2008 20:20:40] <locohost> you can get in throuhg ssh, but you cant get into the box via keyboard, is that what you are saying?
[13-Mar-2008 20:22:26] <Bulwinkle> locohost: yes
[13-Mar-2008 20:24:40] <locohost> weird, your logging in as root?
[13-Mar-2008 20:24:50] <locohost> reset your pass and try from console?
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:00] <Bulwinkle> i put in root as the username and hit enter and it doesn't even ask me for my passwd
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:21] <locohost> does it say its wrong or anything?
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:32] <locohost> same thing with a non-root user?
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:49] <Bulwinkle> ues
[13-Mar-2008 20:25:53] <Bulwinkle> -u+y
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:10] <locohost> and it doesnt ask you for a passowrd, just says your password is wrong
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:30] <locohost> Permission denied, please try again.
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:31] <locohost> ?
[13-Mar-2008 20:26:43] <Bulwinkle> nothing... just the MOTD and login:
[13-Mar-2008 20:27:27] <locohost> strange, maybe try booting into single user mode and resetting the root pass
[13-Mar-2008 20:27:47] <Bulwinkle> locohost: eh... not to worried about it now
[13-Mar-2008 20:32:38] <locohost> good, because neither am I
[13-Mar-2008 20:32:39] <locohost>
[13-Mar-2008 20:32:44] <locohost> this is centos ?
[13-Mar-2008 20:33:44] <locohost> how come no one commented on my custom hardware tab?
[13-Mar-2008 20:35:10] <locohost> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
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[13-Mar-2008 20:37:40] <locohost> idea, why dont you put a clean centos 5 vm on your laptop and see if you can get it to install with a var there
[13-Mar-2008 20:38:15] <locohost> i could ssh into your test vm for you if you and see if i have the same problem, heh
[13-Mar-2008 20:56:22] <idea4gud> hi thnx loco for offer
[13-Mar-2008 20:56:52] <idea4gud> k now tht i decided to hav zenoss as my tool so i hav decided to install on actual machine
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[14-Mar-2008 02:43:08] <JDIBBY> Anyone in here ever written any zenpacks for Netscreen, Extreme, or Alvarion?
[14-Mar-2008 02:43:22] <JDIBBY> I'm just getting started, but didn't want to reinvent the wheel
[14-Mar-2008 02:52:45] <btsteve> what makes zenoss better than nagios?
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[14-Mar-2008 13:52:24] <duncan_> hey fellow Zenossians... I'm having problems with zenperfsnmp kicking the bucket. With 700 nodes (~66000 OIDS being polled) the server is maxing out on IOWAIT and the load will climb to about 4 then the daemon will die. I have tried rebuilding the box to use a RAID0 with two 10k RPM drives but they still cannot keep up.. is there a way to throttle the speed Zenoss tries to poll the servers?
[14-Mar-2008 13:53:08] <duncan_> IOWAIT fluctuates between 40% and 70% while polling the nodes
[14-Mar-2008 13:59:32] <duncan_> when I check the progress in the zenperfsnmp log file, it gets through polling 300 nodes in about 20 seconds (talk about a FLOOD) and gets so backed up that the daemon apparently just dies without giving any reasons
[14-Mar-2008 14:00:55] <duncan_> is this a known problem with larger networks and Zenoss? will I need to be splitting the load for polling snmp?
[14-Mar-2008 14:02:33] <monrad> how large i larger networks?
[14-Mar-2008 14:04:12] <locohost> your sure your hd is not on the way out>
[14-Mar-2008 14:05:39] <locohost> my iowait is at 0.60 on my prod zenoss server, with about 500 devices in it, have not finished addeing just everything yet
[14-Mar-2008 14:06:49] <duncan_> 700 nodes, polling 66k OIDs - the hard drives should be fine.. I had the same problem with 500 nodes using RAID1, so I rebuilt the box for more performance, and as we have now added more nodes we have overwhelmed the system yet again
[14-Mar-2008 14:08:08] <duncan_> I noticed that with the faster drive setup, that rather than having a lower IOWAIT, the nodes just get polled even faster (aparently as fast as possible).. so I'm still overloading the IO subsystem
[14-Mar-2008 14:11:50] <locohost> maybe there is a threading option somewhere in the setting that you could turn down....
[14-Mar-2008 14:12:26] <locohost> not sure about that, i was looking through all the confs the other day looking for something like that with no love
[14-Mar-2008 14:13:05] <locohost> it just seems like..if it can do 300 in 20 seconds, it should be able to do 800 in a minute without pegging io
[14-Mar-2008 14:13:15] <locohost> or 800 in 5 minutes
[14-Mar-2008 14:13:33] <locohost> you are polling once every 5m, right? not more frequent then that?
[14-Mar-2008 15:16:57] <klinstifen> morning all
[14-Mar-2008 15:17:22] <klinstifen> anyone know of a way to rename the interface adapter from the card's manufacturer name to say, eth0
[14-Mar-2008 15:18:22] <willwh> klinstifen, you mean a *nix interface?
[14-Mar-2008 15:18:29] <willwh> your default NIC is usually eth0
[14-Mar-2008 15:18:36] <willwh> do ifconfig at the cli
[14-Mar-2008 15:19:47] <klinstifen> willwh: i mean in zenoss...for windows boxen it has grabbed the manufacture name and there are spaces and slashes involved so i just want it to be eth0 or eth1
[14-Mar-2008 15:20:16] <willwh> not sure about windows
[14-Mar-2008 15:20:51] <klinstifen> i want the renaming to be done within zenoss
[14-Mar-2008 15:21:17] <klinstifen> so the zenoss gui shows a different name and stores thus stores it differently in $ZENHOME
[14-Mar-2008 15:37:13] <btsteve> Can Zenoss send notifications when things go down?
[14-Mar-2008 15:39:28] <monrad> duncan_: i am polling 1138 devices, 38K OIDs, with an dual 3.2 ghz p4 xeon with 4 gb of ram and the rrd files on a SAN
[14-Mar-2008 15:40:03] <monrad> the 38K is because we dont poll interfaces on our access switches
[14-Mar-2008 15:40:16] <monrad> because it does not scale up to that
[14-Mar-2008 15:49:42] <locohost> yeah, you can rename ifs
[14-Mar-2008 15:53:57] <locohost> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/<systemname>/interfaces/manage
[14-Mar-2008 15:54:49] <locohost> klistifen, that link is for you, check out that url, where localhost is your server, and <systemname> is the device you want to change the if name on
[14-Mar-2008 16:19:10] <klinstifen> locohost: i tried that. it made an alias, didn't change the name
[14-Mar-2008 16:20:44] <klinstifen> and this is for a Win box
[14-Mar-2008 16:21:15] <klinstifen> btsteve: yes it can
[14-Mar-2008 17:21:17] <btsteve> how do i setup notifications
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[14-Mar-2008 18:41:21] <locohost> k, check the box for that if and select rename, i dont think that could not work
[14-Mar-2008 18:45:52] <locohost> hmm, maybe your right
[14-Mar-2008 18:46:38] <locohost> steve, you mean like, page to a phone, not console alertS?
[14-Mar-2008 19:07:55] <btsteve> Yes E-mail to phone
[14-Mar-2008 19:10:23] <locohost> i think its under preferences and then alerting rules
[14-Mar-2008 19:36:45] <johns55> anyone having problemings not being able to scroll through the event logs?
[14-Mar-2008 20:32:22] <btsteve> Ok i tried the alerts and it did not send a message and a zenaction issue popped up.
[14-Mar-2008 20:36:08] <locohost> you put an emial addy in>
[14-Mar-2008 20:36:14] <btsteve> yep
[14-Mar-2008 23:31:12] <johns55> ur server doesnt have sendmail active
[14-Mar-2008 23:31:17] <johns55> or sent to recieve from localhost
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[17-Mar-2008 03:29:50] <Pikoro> anyone alive/awake?
[17-Mar-2008 03:30:57] <Pikoro> ok, well I'll just toss this out there and wait
[17-Mar-2008 03:32:15] <Pikoro> I have a bunch of mikrotik routers and would like to be able to track via snmp some of the items in it's custom MIB. I can't seem to find any docs on scanning a device against a MIB or assigning a MIB to a device or group. Any links to any documents out there would be appreciated
[17-Mar-2008 03:32:30] <Pikoro> I already have the MIB imported to zenoss. Thanks in advance
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[17-Mar-2008 11:30:05] <akesomm> Hi! I'm testing Zenoss, and cannot get any network nor devices listed in the GUI. Should I add some network stuff manually? Maybe I missed something in the manual?
[17-Mar-2008 11:32:53] <akesomm> zendisc says: error performing net discovery on network 192.168.0.0 not found in dmd
[17-Mar-2008 11:37:24] <akesomm> in some forum messages it was said that " add a subnet in the /Networks section of the GUI... but I cannot see how to do this when there isn't any networks discovered /listed at all...(the subnet is most likely requiring that a network is seen in the first place).
[17-Mar-2008 11:38:11] <akesomm> I'm totally locked with this now... if somebody have some ideas, please let me know.
[17-Mar-2008 11:41:37] <fuoff> keep reading , you need discovery working ...
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:02] <akesomm> sure... now I at least got some servers with snmp added manually.... but still auto-discovery is dead :-(
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:07] <fuoff> akesomm, if your guessing your subnet /24 is a safe bet
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:21] <fuoff> snmpwalk them from a win / unix box first
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:28] <fuoff> make sure snmop is really working .
[17-Mar-2008 11:56:32] <fuoff> snmp*
[17-Mar-2008 12:00:31] <akesomm> I snmpwalked not the whoel subnet, but the loaclhost where the zenoss resides and at least it gave a lot of output.... This is an evaluation set up running under vmware...maybe that causes some problems with network discovery?
[17-Mar-2008 12:23:07] <fuoff> akesomm, shouldnt do, depends on your network i guess
[17-Mar-2008 12:23:23] <fuoff> so try modelling the localhost
[17-Mar-2008 12:27:21] <jp10558> Hey, anyone using the MySQL ZenPack?
[17-Mar-2008 12:35:15] <jp10558> I can't seem to find any zMySqlRootPassword in zProperties of devices I've bound the MySQL template to
[17-Mar-2008 12:35:23] <jp10558> where is this hidden?
[17-Mar-2008 12:35:29] <jp10558> or how do I get it to show up?
[17-Mar-2008 13:03:01] fuoff is now known as nemonl
[17-Mar-2008 13:10:22] <jp10558> no one uses MySQL ZenPack?
[17-Mar-2008 13:10:30] <nemonl> i didnt
[17-Mar-2008 13:51:50] <Blinny> Install from source on Ubuntu. So far I've managed to map a device (Linux localhost - all it found were the network interfaces), and I'm getting event notification of traps. I'd like to wipe out my 2.1.2-0 installation and start from scratch with recently released 2.1.3. Is there an uninstall script? Or do I just blow away /usr/local/zenoss, mysqldb events and startup scripts?
[17-Mar-2008 13:53:43] <locohost> gaybuntu
[17-Mar-2008 13:54:39] <Blinny> That's helpful.
[17-Mar-2008 13:57:42] <locohost> never installed it from src. im thinking what you say will probably work, but i cant say for sure
[17-Mar-2008 13:58:20] <Blinny> Thank you.
[17-Mar-2008 13:59:56] <Blinny> I use Ubuntu because I have a lot of diskless terminals, and Ubuntu has, by far, the best LTSP integration. I'm looking to monitor the RAID arrays and performance metrics of two LTSP Dell PowerEdge servers. I work at a non-profit foster care agency and there's no way we could run Citrix.
[17-Mar-2008 14:03:54] <locohost> yeah, im just messin, a lot of people like ubuntu
[17-Mar-2008 14:07:36] <jp10558> Do you specifically need this to run on Ubuntu? Can you use one CENTOS5.1 server? Zenoss is much easier to install on CENTOS5.1
[17-Mar-2008 14:09:29] <Blinny> CentOS's XServers are very, very buggy with regards to running diskless machines. Recent development efforts have focused on closing memory leaks, and not acting as if every XServer had a huge swap to play with.
[17-Mar-2008 14:10:09] <Blinny> So, yes, I do. I also can't justify changing my production environment to suit my production monitoring requirements.
[17-Mar-2008 14:18:42] <Blinny> How do I get information on the 'Hardware' and 'Software' tabs when viewing a device? They've always been empty and I'm wondering if I have something wrong with my Net-SNMP.
[17-Mar-2008 14:20:17] <Blinny> And also - is this still true? It comes from a March2007 post: "At the moment, MIBs uploaded into Zenoss are only used for traps, not for device parsing. "
[17-Mar-2008 14:29:07] <locohost> you dont even see the memory info on the hwtab?
[17-Mar-2008 14:29:17] <locohost> both tabs are completly blank!
[17-Mar-2008 14:29:20] <locohost> ??
[17-Mar-2008 14:30:31] <locohost> btw, we have over about 300 centos boxes here that dont have disks in them
[17-Mar-2008 14:31:19] <Blinny> Ah. I needed to map it to /Servers/Linux for it to run the proper plugins.
[17-Mar-2008 14:31:38] <locohost> ahh, yeah
[17-Mar-2008 14:31:54] <locohost> i made my own hardware tab that links info out of my sql db
[17-Mar-2008 14:32:27] <Blinny> Many of the details are blank. How can I use the information provided in my hardware vendor's .MIB to populate this information? I've already do the zenmib run .MIB command
[17-Mar-2008 14:32:43] <locohost> http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hwtabzm8.jpg
[17-Mar-2008 14:32:57] <__adytum-bot__> Title: ImageShack - Hosting :: hwtabzm8.jpg (at img340.imageshack.us)
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:26] <[Wiebel]> Hey
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:32] <locohost> yo
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:37] <[Wiebel]> how can I find out where zenoss learned a network?
[17-Mar-2008 14:37:48] <[Wiebel]> I see a network popping up in my networks list without any machines in it
[17-Mar-2008 14:38:30] <locohost> hmm, i think it learns networks through the route info it polls off your comm gear
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:00] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:07] <[Wiebel]> but I have loads of comm gear
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:38] <[Wiebel]> So I would like to find out on exaclty what device
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:41] <locohost> well, im not sure i know the exact answer to your question, but, have you been here?
[17-Mar-2008 14:39:41] <locohost> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Networks/manage
[17-Mar-2008 14:40:49] <locohost> you could maybe find what oid it uses to get the routes, not sure what one it uses off the top of my head, and loop an snmpwalk through command line
[17-Mar-2008 14:40:52] <locohost> and grep for that route
[17-Mar-2008 14:41:10] <locohost> or, maybe its in the logs somehwere
[17-Mar-2008 14:41:43] <[Wiebel]> hmm
[17-Mar-2008 14:41:46] <[Wiebel]> that manage url is handy
[17-Mar-2008 14:42:18] <locohost> yeah, if you just go to http://localhost:8080/manage, you can see the whole tree, and navigate to where you want to
[17-Mar-2008 14:42:34] <[Wiebel]> nice
[17-Mar-2008 14:42:46] <[Wiebel]> how did you find that out
[17-Mar-2008 14:43:33] <locohost> reading about zope
[17-Mar-2008 14:43:36] <[Wiebel]>
[17-Mar-2008 14:46:38] <[Wiebel]> *pang*
[17-Mar-2008 14:46:39] <[Wiebel]> ...
[17-Mar-2008 14:46:40] <[Wiebel]>
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:00] <locohost> is that the sound of you figuring something out?
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:01] <jp10558> Anyone use the MySQL ZenPack?
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:15] <locohost> i use mysql methods and dtml
[17-Mar-2008 14:47:16] <[Wiebel]> locohost: nah, just granting KillMeNow his wishes
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:26] <[Wiebel]> locohost: when I goto localhost:8080/manage it want's a password
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:45] <locohost> it will only let you in with the admin pass, i think
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:52] <locohost> admin, zenoss by default
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:54] <[Wiebel]> ah
[17-Mar-2008 14:50:58] <[Wiebel]> I know
[17-Mar-2008 14:51:07] <[Wiebel]> zenoss tech dudes changed that
[17-Mar-2008 14:51:08] <[Wiebel]>
[17-Mar-2008 14:52:59] <Blinny> What would cause an 'Unknown' value for used bytes in filesystems, memory, load average, and cpu % ?
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:09] <nemonl> ImportError: failed importing class IpV6ServiceMap from module zenoss.snmp.IpV6ServiceMap
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:24] <nemonl> while trying to model a GE site pro ups
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:38] <locohost> are you using includeAllDisks in your snmpd.conf?
[17-Mar-2008 14:53:50] <nemonl> Blinny, struggling with unknown on some of my devices ..
[17-Mar-2008 14:54:03] <nemonl> transformations seem to be the way
[17-Mar-2008 14:54:38] <locohost> could i take a look at you snmpd.conf? are you restricting it to certain oids, or is .1.3 wide open?
[17-Mar-2008 14:55:00] <nemonl> me or blinny?
[17-Mar-2008 14:55:11] <nemonl> sry its blinney ;p
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:10] <locohost> well, if your both having problems with disk stuff coming back unknown
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:34] <locohost> i think the IncludeAllDisks declaration in snmpd.conf does not play well with the host resource mib
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:47] <Blinny> locohost: http://pastebin.com/d8f7b2b6
[17-Mar-2008 14:56:58] <nemonl> loco: in my case they have no disks
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:11] <locohost> i think you want to add
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:13] <locohost> disk /
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:16] <locohost> disk /var
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:20] <locohost> or whatever your mount points are
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:23] <locohost> and restart snmpd
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:31] <Blinny> Just that line? disk /
[17-Mar-2008 14:57:58] <locohost> yeah, disk, then mount point
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:07] <locohost> you could also do disk / 90
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:19] <locohost> and it would watch / and send traps if it hit 90%
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:34] <Blinny> Gotchya. Lemme test. Thank you.
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:38] <locohost> you can do all that on the zenoss side though too, dont need to do it with traps
[17-Mar-2008 14:58:50] <locohost> it will probably take a few minutes for zenoss to update, but i think that will work
[17-Mar-2008 14:59:11] <Blinny> Right on. Is there a snmpd.conf that gives all that stuff?
[17-Mar-2008 14:59:56] <Blinny> Or should I just man snmpd.conf (;
[17-Mar-2008 15:00:25] <locohost> snmpd.conf can be kind of a pain, there is a lot to it. not sure what you mean, is there a conf that will give you all that
[17-Mar-2008 15:00:27] <nemonl> http://pastebin.com/m6543ca8c
[17-Mar-2008 15:00:40] <locohost> some of your systems might have different mount points, right, so you would want to specifiy different disks
[17-Mar-2008 15:01:20] <Blinny> Right on. So, one configures snmpd.conf to show all the stuff you want shown, and then you use zenoss web interface to configure traps ?
[17-Mar-2008 15:02:55] <locohost> not sure if i follow you. There are 2 ways to do things in snmp. trap based and polling based. Trap based means the client watches its self, and sends a trap to the server when it find a problem
[17-Mar-2008 15:03:18] <locohost> poll based, the server will check an oid every x minutes, and report issues. you can do both, or either or, its up to you
[17-Mar-2008 15:03:39] <locohost> you might be getting duplicate alerts though, one from a trap, and one from your nms
[17-Mar-2008 15:04:10] <locohost> for centeralization, its nice to control it all at the nms, and not have to have different snmpd.confs for all your boxes
[17-Mar-2008 15:04:51] <Blinny> That makes sense. zenoss == nms correct?
[17-Mar-2008 15:05:10] <locohost> yeah, network management system, any kinda poller or trap receiver with like a console that operators can watch
[17-Mar-2008 15:05:30] Tinozaure is now known as _Tino
[17-Mar-2008 15:05:40] <locohost> nemonl, i have no idea, sorry, its only like my third week using zenoss. been using snmp for a while though
[17-Mar-2008 15:06:04] <Blinny> So how then would I poll disk usages without editing snmpd.conf on each monitored box?
[17-Mar-2008 15:06:14] <locohost> i think you can do "`python /opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/Plugins.py` as zenoss to get more debug info, not sure if it will help you though
[17-Mar-2008 15:06:17] <nemonl> looks like a bug to me, sadly
[17-Mar-2008 15:07:23] <locohost> yeah, i think you need have that info in there to get disk usage out of the host resources mib...i think you could get it out of the ucd mib if you really wanted to, but it would probably be easier to edit the confs
[17-Mar-2008 15:07:31] <locohost> how many systrems do you have? do they all have the same mount points?
[17-Mar-2008 15:07:51] <locohost> i was actually going to work on some kinda localization script for snmpd.conf, but have not got around to it yet
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> [zenoss@monitor04 ~]$ python /opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/Plugins.py
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> Traceback (most recent call last):
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/Plugins.py", line 14, in ?
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> from Products.ZenUtils.Utils import importClass
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:05] <nemonl> ImportError: No module named ZenUtils.Utils
[17-Mar-2008 15:08:32] <nemonl> why didnt someone write this in php ;p
[17-Mar-2008 15:09:00] <Blinny> I'll only have 3 linux systems polled, so it's no big deal to propegate snmpd.conf to those boxes. I just want to do it correctly. Your help has already allowed me to go much further than I'd been able to on my own in the last few days.
[17-Mar-2008 15:10:37] <locohost> can you see the disks now?
[17-Mar-2008 15:10:53] * locohost runs out for a smoke, be back in a min
[17-Mar-2008 15:14:30] <Blinny> I can see the disk information for hosts !=localhost
[17-Mar-2008 15:15:33] <Blinny> ...the host I can see the disk information for does not have "disk /" or any such disk line in its snmpd.conf. This is weird.
[17-Mar-2008 15:17:38] <Blinny> Woah. Now the graphs in 'perf' tab are being populated for the host != localhost. Nice.
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:03] <locohost> i wonder if local hosts gets its disk info differently
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:08] <nemonl> damn thats why my graphs dont work right
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:25] <nemonl> i am seriously worried about the fact were adopting zenoss in 2 weeks
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:32] <locohost> i dont know. but, maybe rather then walking itself, it gets them through script or something
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:36] <nemonl> zenoss core seems pretty buggy to me
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:55] <Blinny> Perhaps.
[17-Mar-2008 15:18:58] <nemonl> most devices dont model without errors
[17-Mar-2008 15:19:07] <nemonl> what good is that really for business
[17-Mar-2008 15:19:28] <nemonl> i think its a very interesting idea, i even like the classes / inheritance, but ...
[17-Mar-2008 15:19:36] <Blinny> locohost: So, I'd only need to put the 'disk' lines in the snmpd.conf of the nms machine, and suddenly everything works elsewhere.
[17-Mar-2008 15:20:32] <locohost> did you not put it everywhere else, or it just started to show up when you did it to localhost
[17-Mar-2008 15:20:43] <locohost> your sure it didnt just take like 5-10 minute to start populating
[17-Mar-2008 15:20:56] <locohost> also, you need to do an /etc/init.d/snmpd restart to reload the conf
[17-Mar-2008 15:23:32] <Blinny> locohost: I'm sure - I only have 'disk /' on my NMS (let's call it localhost) -- Now, disk usage, CPU, load averages information is available from another Linux box (which has no 'disk' line in it). Also, I can see disk usages from a WinXP machine that has an SNMP agent on it.
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:05] <Blinny> Just to be sure I'll restart all my snmpd processes on localhost and other Linux box.
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:06] <locohost> you a centos user?
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:09] <Blinny> No.
[17-Mar-2008 15:24:59] <locohost> maybe the needing to specify disks in the conf is something specific to centos, not 100% sure, thats pretty much the only distro i use
[17-Mar-2008 15:26:29] <Blinny> Okay. I'll keep fiddling. Thank you.
[17-Mar-2008 15:29:37] <Blinny> I have many more 'Component Type' entries in the 'Status' tab on the host that is working than localhost
[17-Mar-2008 15:39:09] <idea4gud> hi loco u r around here
[17-Mar-2008 15:39:36] <idea4gud> i am tryin to install from scratch
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:10] <locohost> hi ya
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:24] <idea4gud> havin centos on a VM shall i just fol the guide thts given website
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:34] <idea4gud> CENTOS 5
[17-Mar-2008 15:40:49] <idea4gud> also i plan to start installation on production server
[17-Mar-2008 15:41:07] <idea4gud> so they is there any particular hardware requirement for zenoss
[17-Mar-2008 15:41:21] <idea4gud> bcz the machine they gave me is pentium 3
[17-Mar-2008 15:41:25] <idea4gud>
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:01] <locohost> well, my home zenoss box is a Compaq dl380 dual pc 900 with 1.25 gigs of ram
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:15] <locohost> that runs great polling like 3 physical boxes and 8 ish vms
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:23] <locohost> and 2 peices of comm gear, lol
[17-Mar-2008 15:46:56] <locohost> let me guess, you got a netfinity 4000r?
[17-Mar-2008 15:48:12] <idea4gud> u mean router?
[17-Mar-2008 15:48:59] <idea4gud> sorry
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:15] <locohost> now, i was just making a random guess at what kinda server it was, never mind
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:19] <locohost> not really a point
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:32] <locohost> how many nodes and how much ram, idea?
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:38] <idea4gud> just a normal CPU
[17-Mar-2008 15:49:53] <idea4gud> with pentium 3 and they want me to use ass host for zenoss
[17-Mar-2008 15:50:09] <locohost> what is an ass host?
[17-Mar-2008 15:50:12] <idea4gud> nodes wil b some thing around 50 with 10 + servers
[17-Mar-2008 15:50:22] <idea4gud> and 10+ services mostly web based
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:00] <locohost> ah, as the host, lol
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:02] <idea4gud> They want this P3 machine to b used as host for zenoss
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:10] <idea4gud>
[17-Mar-2008 15:51:13] <locohost> um, i think it will probably be okay, how many mhz?
[17-Mar-2008 15:52:00] <locohost> my dual p3 900 is sitting at .04 load average with .93 iowait
[17-Mar-2008 15:53:26] <Blinny> locohost: Apparently, simply waiting for the values to be populated was the key. Now my localhost is showing disk usage, and performance graphs are working also.
[17-Mar-2008 15:54:38] <locohost> cool
[17-Mar-2008 15:54:49] <locohost> another tip, is you can look at your rrd files manually
[17-Mar-2008 15:54:57] <locohost> with rrdtool dump <path to rrd file>
[17-Mar-2008 15:56:16] <Blinny> Good tip. Thank you again.
[17-Mar-2008 16:19:46] <idea4gud> hi loco i am runnin zenoss player on my laptop
[17-Mar-2008 16:19:58] <idea4gud> and my laptop has SNMP enabled
[17-Mar-2008 16:20:22] <idea4gud> so why doesnt it discover the device when i ask it to do so
[17-Mar-2008 16:25:28] <nemonl> idea4gud, make sure you can snmpwalk your device before your try to troubleshoot doing it in zenoss
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[17-Mar-2008 17:06:08] <locohost> could you walk it from the zenoss box, idea?
[17-Mar-2008 17:06:43] * locohost punches zope and python in hte neck
[17-Mar-2008 17:26:52] <idea4gud> am i doing correctly the snmp syntax:
[17-Mar-2008 17:27:25] <idea4gud> snmpwalk v1 -c communityString 172.25.2.1 172.25.3.197
[17-Mar-2008 17:27:40] <idea4gud> it says Failed to build ASN.1 representation
[17-Mar-2008 17:28:18] <idea4gud> when i remove community string it says 172.25.3.197 doesnt resp time out
[17-Mar-2008 17:31:21] <Blinny> 'communityString' should be your community's string. IE, public
[17-Mar-2008 17:32:04] <Blinny> and snmpwalk takes the IP and then the OID for which you're walking. 172.25.3.197 looks like a second IP, not an OID.
[17-Mar-2008 17:32:31] <locohost> why are there 2 ips in your snmp walk
[17-Mar-2008 17:32:47] <locohost> replace 172.25.3.193 with .1.3
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:07] <locohost> 172.25.2.1 is the host you want to walk
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:32] <locohost> isnt it snmpwalk -v 1
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:42] <Blinny> Ah. Yeah. -v1
[17-Mar-2008 17:33:54] <locohost> i think you need a space too, maybe not
[17-Mar-2008 17:34:33] <Blinny> Mine does not.
[17-Mar-2008 17:44:59] <idea4gud> so wat does : .1.3 object ID?
[17-Mar-2008 17:54:47] <locohost> that tells it to walk everything under .1.3. which should be everything
[17-Mar-2008 18:11:21] <Blinny> So I have three subnets in different locations. How do I tell the zenoss network map that subnets are physically located at a location?
[17-Mar-2008 19:48:31] <locohost> you tried setting device locations for objects in those subnets?
[17-Mar-2008 19:48:42] <locohost> ahhh, you want it to just know
[17-Mar-2008 20:06:31] <Blinny> locohost: Yeah, I have devices mapped to locations. It's really just the network map that this affects.
[17-Mar-2008 20:09:22] <locohost> under manage, there is a location object under each network, i dont see how to edit it though
[17-Mar-2008 20:10:52] <Blinny> *Nod* My clouds don't lead to the devices behind those clouds. I have turned up the number of hops.
[17-Mar-2008 20:12:14] <locohost> stupid question, you are polling your core routes, right?
[17-Mar-2008 20:12:33] <locohost> so, it knows how to get between networks
[17-Mar-2008 20:12:56] <locohost> routers*
[17-Mar-2008 20:14:31] <Blinny> locohost: I am, sort of.
[17-Mar-2008 20:14:52] <Blinny> locohost: I have my routers set up as devices and can look at the interfaces/networks of the routers.
[17-Mar-2008 20:17:13] <Blinny> I guess the eye candy isn't that important. A second visual representation would be nice though.
[17-Mar-2008 20:17:18] <Blinny> Cheers locohost. Thanks for the help today.
[17-Mar-2008 20:20:30] <locohost> np
[17-Mar-2008 20:37:08] <Bl00dyR4v3n> hello
[17-Mar-2008 21:09:43] <`m3_> any got an idea where transformations are logged?
[17-Mar-2008 21:09:54] <`m3_> anyone*
[17-Mar-2008 21:28:25] <idea4gud> i am able to do snmpwalk
[17-Mar-2008 21:28:46] <idea4gud> but as far the is this enuf for me to discover the Windows devices
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[18-Mar-2008 07:42:34] <nemonl> morning
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[18-Mar-2008 10:25:25] <nemonl> pls quiet ppl ;o trying to work here ;p
[18-Mar-2008 10:25:44] <DarkMats> soz! :-/
[18-Mar-2008 10:26:43] <nemonl> DarkMats, ever transformed an event ( in zenoss ) ?
[18-Mar-2008 10:27:25] <DarkMats> Yes, once with much trouble... Python is not my best language =)
[18-Mar-2008 10:27:41] <nemonl> same same , trying to get into it tho
[18-Mar-2008 10:27:56] <nemonl> i got it all pretty much working , sans transforms
[18-Mar-2008 10:28:32] <DarkMats> I found a good guide somewhere in the forums that got mine working
[18-Mar-2008 10:28:33] <nemonl> were having a zenoss engineer visit in a few weeks, just trying to get ahead now
[18-Mar-2008 10:29:14] <nemonl> hmmz which thread, i thought id read them all ...
[18-Mar-2008 10:29:33] <DarkMats> w8, i'll check if i've got it bookmarked...
[18-Mar-2008 10:30:27] <DarkMats> Doesn't look like it... sorry =/
[18-Mar-2008 10:30:35] <nemonl> de nada ;p
[18-Mar-2008 11:01:07] <[Wiebel]> Hey
[18-Mar-2008 11:01:28] <[Wiebel]> Where can I find info on howto import cacti collector script into zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:22] <nemonl> google i guess, never heard of a script to do it
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:30] <[Wiebel]> hmm
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:31] <__adytum-bot__> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/theatre/comedy/story/0,,1987059,00.html
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:37] <[Wiebel]> I could not find it
[18-Mar-2008 12:17:47] <nemonl> if your handy in bash or whatever try zendisc command
[18-Mar-2008 12:18:55] <nemonl> [zenoss@monitor04 zenoss]$ which zendisc
[18-Mar-2008 12:18:56] <nemonl> /opt/zenoss/bin/zendisc
[18-Mar-2008 12:19:14] <nemonl> for discovery btw
[18-Mar-2008 12:19:35] <[Wiebel]> hmmz?
[18-Mar-2008 12:19:45] <[Wiebel]> what has that to do with cacti
[18-Mar-2008 12:22:42] <[Wiebel]> anyone ever tried to get smokeping alike graphs in zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 12:57:27] <nemonl> wiebel, the discovery tool can work on your cacti configs, if you are any good with scripting that is
[18-Mar-2008 12:58:39] <[Wiebel]> well
[18-Mar-2008 12:58:50] <[Wiebel]> the thing is cacti supports data sources with multiple oid's
[18-Mar-2008 12:58:57] <[Wiebel]> I would like to see that in zenoss
[18-Mar-2008 13:03:12] <nemonl> great, good luck with it
[18-Mar-2008 13:07:27] <Joe159> g'day
[18-Mar-2008 13:08:21] <Joe159> can anyone help... I've upgraded to 2.1.3 and zensyslog wont start
[18-Mar-2008 13:09:24] <[Wiebel]> with what error?
[18-Mar-2008 13:09:59] <Joe159> zensocet must be run as root
[18-Mar-2008 13:10:01] <Joe159> socket
[18-Mar-2008 13:11:42] <Joe159> and the following... ERROR ZEO.zrpc.Connection(C): (localhost:8100) Error caught in asyncore
[18-Mar-2008 13:12:49] <[Wiebel]> chmod +s /opt/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[18-Mar-2008 13:12:54] <[Wiebel]> chwon root /opt/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[18-Mar-2008 13:14:30] <Joe159> not usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket?
[18-Mar-2008 13:14:44] <Joe159> im running it on ubuntu 7.10
[18-Mar-2008 13:17:08] <locohost> some people install in /usr/local, others in /opt. i think he means your zenoss dir
[18-Mar-2008 13:18:15] <Joe159> k, thanks
[18-Mar-2008 13:22:48] <[Wiebel]> well
[18-Mar-2008 13:22:59] <[Wiebel]> zenoss support tolled me that you should install it in /opt
[18-Mar-2008 13:23:06] <[Wiebel]> otherwise you could get unforseen issues
[18-Mar-2008 13:23:10] <[Wiebel]> told
[18-Mar-2008 13:55:29] <nemonl> what is the syntax of the rule statement ( events )
[18-Mar-2008 13:55:42] <nemonl> rule, regex, example, transform etc
[18-Mar-2008 14:01:01] <[Wiebel]> what do you mean ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:02:28] <nemonl> Under the classes menu, events
[18-Mar-2008 14:02:49] <nemonl> for each mapping to a class you have a set of rules
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:02] <nemonl> rule, regex, example, transform, explanation, resolution
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:15] <nemonl> i am trying to find out what the rule part should look like
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:21] <[Wiebel]> Ow sorry, never did that
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:45] <nemonl> yeh i didnt bump into anyone whos using it atm ;0
[18-Mar-2008 14:03:59] <nemonl> but it looks like handiest part of event mgmt to me
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:06] <nemonl> if it will work anyway
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:34] <[Wiebel]>
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:42] <[Wiebel]> i'm waiting for 2.1.3 enterprise
[18-Mar-2008 14:04:50] <nemonl> arnt we all ;p
[18-Mar-2008 14:05:04] <monrad> well i am waiting for 2.2
[18-Mar-2008 14:05:09] <monrad> core
[18-Mar-2008 14:05:37] <nemonl> id love to have all these pissey small issues sorted before we talk to zenoss
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:01] <[Wiebel]> mwa
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:04] <nemonl> stupid waste having zenoss guys explain stuff from the core product really
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:07] <[Wiebel]> if you have support they act quickly
[18-Mar-2008 14:06:10] <[Wiebel]> and correctly
[18-Mar-2008 14:07:37] <monrad> yes but the per managed resources pricing is a bit expensive for us
[18-Mar-2008 14:08:25] <monrad> we could hire 2-3 people more instead
[18-Mar-2008 14:08:32] <monrad> for gold
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:00] <[Wiebel]> mwa
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:04] <nemonl> glad i dont take my salary from you
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:08] <[Wiebel]> we got a quote for half the price on the website
[18-Mar-2008 14:09:13] <[Wiebel]> (silver)
[18-Mar-2008 14:10:31] <[Wiebel]> how many devices do you have then?
[18-Mar-2008 14:10:37] <monrad> around 1400 now
[18-Mar-2008 14:10:48] <monrad> i think we are getting over 2000 before long
[18-Mar-2008 14:11:25] <[Wiebel]> and with that. the dollar is low enough en euro's
[18-Mar-2008 14:11:37] <[Wiebel]> I guess they will give you a good quote for that many devices
[18-Mar-2008 14:11:40] <[Wiebel]> we only have 180
[18-Mar-2008 14:12:57] <MoreDakka> Hallo. Anyone around today?
[18-Mar-2008 14:13:33] <MoreDakka> Sorry, let me rephrase. Is anyone around today that can help me with WMI setup in zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 14:13:38] <monrad> [Wiebel]: yeah i think so too, but right now we are happy with core, but it would be nice to see rrdtool scale better
[18-Mar-2008 14:13:55] <[Wiebel]> how is that?
[18-Mar-2008 14:14:18] <monrad> [Wiebel]: rrdtool?
[18-Mar-2008 14:16:58] <[Wiebel]> rrddtool within zenoss?
[18-Mar-2008 14:17:34] <[Wiebel]> or what do you mean
[18-Mar-2008 14:18:46] <monrad> we "only" have 4 gb of ram in the box and when the rrd files cant be in the diskcache anymore performance plummets
[18-Mar-2008 14:19:22] <monrad> like from 15-20 secs for ~50K OIDs and 300-600 secs for ~100K OIDs
[18-Mar-2008 14:19:41] <[Wiebel]> raid0+1 ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:26] <monrad> the rrd files are on a HP EVA SAN
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:33] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:37] <monrad> pretty fast
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:38] <[Wiebel]> ISCSI ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:43] <monrad> no FC
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:51] <[Wiebel]> hmmz ok
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:54] <[Wiebel]> direct to the box
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:58] <[Wiebel]> ?
[18-Mar-2008 14:20:59] <monrad> yep
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:16] <[Wiebel]> I thing locak sata raid0+1 is faster
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:19] <[Wiebel]> *think
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:38] <monrad> but rrdtool 1.3 should help with it moving to memory mapped IO
[18-Mar-2008 14:21:45] <[Wiebel]> ah ok
[18-Mar-2008 14:22:59] <monrad> its because it has to have the entier rrd file in memory to have decent performance with the old implementation
[18-Mar-2008 14:23:45] <monrad> and right now we have ~2.3 gb rrd files
[18-Mar-2008 14:24:14] <[Wiebel]> I see
[18-Mar-2008 14:24:36] <[Wiebel]> wel with ~200 boxes I don't see any issues here yet
[18-Mar-2008 14:24:54] <monrad> i think its because we mostly have switch
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:13] <[Wiebel]> ~700MB rrd files here
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:14] <monrad> and with the data we are collecting now we are around 500 kb per interface
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:29] <[Wiebel]> You could spread the load though
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:36] <[Wiebel]> 2 or more zenoss servers instead of 1
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:37] <monrad> så ~24 mb per 48 port switch
[18-Mar-2008 14:25:50] <monrad> so ...
[18-Mar-2008 14:26:03] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[18-Mar-2008 14:26:42] <monrad> but right now we just dont collect interface stats on our access switches
[18-Mar-2008 14:26:54] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[18-Mar-2008 14:27:06] <[Wiebel]> Well
[18-Mar-2008 14:27:21] <[Wiebel]> I woulud setup 2 (or more zenoss) one for networking one for servers
[18-Mar-2008 14:43:03] <locohost> then your operator has to monitor 2 consoles
[18-Mar-2008 14:43:27] <locohost> or is there some kind of clustering?
[18-Mar-2008 14:43:55] <monrad> locohost: you can have "polling" nodes
[18-Mar-2008 14:44:07] <locohost> ahh, remote pollers, i got ya
[18-Mar-2008 14:44:12] <MoreDakka> Anyone receive this error http://pastebin.ca/947455
[18-Mar-2008 14:44:19] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 947455 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Mar-2008 14:46:49] <monrad> [Wiebel]: http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool-trac/wiki/TuningRRD <- is some good reading on the subject
[18-Mar-2008 14:46:53] <locohost> today is my birthday, and im at work
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:03] <[Wiebel]> cool
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:03] <[Wiebel]> thanks
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:05] <MoreDakka> Happ B-Day....Now get back to WORK
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: TuningRRD - RRDtool Trac - Trac (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:07] <MoreDakka> ;-)
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:08] <MoreDakka> haha
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:14] <MoreDakka> jk
[18-Mar-2008 14:47:16] <[Wiebel]> locohost: congrats
[18-Mar-2008 15:06:00] <locohost> thks
[18-Mar-2008 15:13:17] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming (since there haven't been any answers) that no one knows about the problem that I'm having with WMI?
blegh, wmi is being more of a pain then I want it to be [18-Mar-2008 15:22:11] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[18-Mar-2008 15:22:27] <[Wiebel]> zenoss autodiscover finds devices which are allready in zenoss but renamed
[18-Mar-2008 15:22:31] <[Wiebel]> seems to be a bug
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:41] <locohost> hmmm, same ip, or another if?
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:46] <[Wiebel]> same ip
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:53] <[Wiebel]> I ranemd the devices en zenoss
[18-Mar-2008 15:50:57] <[Wiebel]> did a scan
[18-Mar-2008 15:51:09] <[Wiebel]> and it poped up again onder discoverd devices with the same ip
[18-Mar-2008 15:51:18] <locohost> wierd
[18-Mar-2008 15:51:24] <[Wiebel]> uhuh
[18-Mar-2008 15:52:34] <locohost> its not listed in a host file different from dns or something funky is it? have no idea, just trying to throw something out there
[18-Mar-2008 16:48:19] <jb> any tips on how to make devices appear in the network map?
[18-Mar-2008 16:48:21] <jb> nothing is showing tehre..
[18-Mar-2008 17:10:55] <F0rg1vn> sometimes you have to specify the subnet desired. I have used the following syntax 10.1.0.0/16
[18-Mar-2008 17:12:22] <F0rg1vn> let's say you have a subnet with only servers on it and they all have an ip address in the 192.168.1.x/24 subnet... You would just "discover" 192.168.1.0/24
[18-Mar-2008 17:12:31] <F0rg1vn> does that make sense <jb>?
[18-Mar-2008 17:14:17] <F0rg1vn> <jb> sorry I'm getting my products confused. You don;t need the slash notation "/24" just the network 192.168.1.0
[18-Mar-2008 17:17:55] <F0rg1vn> If it takes a long time to enumerate then there could be other issues. I have this paticular issue on one of our Zen nodes.
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:38] <jb> well i have several subnets
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:40] <jb> i would like to show them all
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:48] <jb> so I tried to create a new network with a subnet that included all of my subnets
[18-Mar-2008 17:20:50] <jb> but that didnt work
[18-Mar-2008 17:27:37] <F0rg1vn> if you look at the status at the bottom of the broswer is it still retreiving data?
[18-Mar-2008 17:29:52] <jb> hrm, sometimes yeah
[18-Mar-2008 17:29:58] <jb> i actually have about 40 devices that arent even showing up
[18-Mar-2008 17:30:04] <jb> because they are not defined in a "Network" i dont think
[18-Mar-2008 17:30:06] <jb> and im not sure why
[18-Mar-2008 17:33:53] <jb> f0rg1vn: what happens if you type 0.0.0.0 into the selected device box?
[18-Mar-2008 17:33:57] <jb> does it load all of your devices?
[18-Mar-2008 17:53:34] <sajithr> no
[18-Mar-2008 17:56:11] <monrad> hey bzed, hows the packaging going?
[18-Mar-2008 18:02:42] <idea4gud> i am not able to connect to IP address of Appliance Til yesterday it was wrkin f9
[18-Mar-2008 18:03:00] <idea4gud> can anybody tel me the possible reason I can ping my Appliace from my Laptpop
[18-Mar-2008 18:18:35] <[Wiebel]> I realy have to say. Zenoss support is superb!
[18-Mar-2008 18:54:52] <bzed> monrad: stuck.
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:09] <bzed> monrad: you could update it and use zope 2.8 with it
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:15] <bzed> but that was not an option for us
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:22] <bzed> as zope 2.8 is out of debian now
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:27] <`m3_> sup monrad, i missed your issue
[18-Mar-2008 18:55:31] <bzed> we're waiting for the developers to move to something more uptodate
[18-Mar-2008 18:56:19] <`m3_> i guess it might have been kinder to shutdown zenoss before rpm -Uvh to 2.1.3 ?
[18-Mar-2008 18:56:24] <`m3_> taking along time ...
[18-Mar-2008 19:12:35] <johns55> m3, are you on cpanel channel in efnet also?
[18-Mar-2008 19:14:20] <`m3_> yes ;p
[18-Mar-2008 19:21:49] <johns55> ah ok, your hostnames are different
[18-Mar-2008 19:21:51] <johns55> but same nick
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:02] <jp10558> I'm trying to use the MySQL zenpack
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:13] <jp10558> and I've gotten it installed and configured, but now I'm getting:
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:14] <jp10558> Code: 1 - Msg: General error
[18-Mar-2008 19:25:27] <jp10558> as a info event on the polls, and no graphs
[18-Mar-2008 19:33:10] <npmccallum> So when using LDAP for authentication, after the first time the user signs in he/she appears in /zport/dmd/ZenUsers. Anyone know where the part of the code is that adds the user? I can't find it...
[18-Mar-2008 19:33:18] <`m3_> jp10558, seems most of the mysql issues are to do with mysql password
[18-Mar-2008 19:34:02] <`m3_> npmccallum, if it happens on login, mut get triggered there ?
[18-Mar-2008 19:34:44] <npmccallum> `m3_: sure, but where is that code?
[18-Mar-2008 20:01:28] <idea4gud> i am not able to connect to IP address of Appliance Til yesterday it was wrkin f9
[18-Mar-2008 20:01:41] <idea4gud> can anybody tel me the possible reason I can ping my Appliace from my Laptpop
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:35] <monrad> bzed: hmm to bad :/
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:40] <monrad> too even
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:47] <bzed> yeah
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:52] <bzed> it's annoying
[18-Mar-2008 20:03:59] <jb> ide: its obvioulsy a networking problems..
[18-Mar-2008 20:57:26] <`m3_> 2.1.3 seems to handle class mapping better ;p
[18-Mar-2008 21:29:31] <ke4qqq> hey guys I am having a real brain fart moment - I created a Zenpack - added some of my performance monitors for a machine to that zenpack. Now, despite having done this scores of times before, I can't remember or find how to apply this zenpack to another machine.
[18-Mar-2008 21:32:18] <johns55> man id be willing to upgrade to 2.1.3 but its kinda risky
[18-Mar-2008 21:39:52] <muqeet> hi guyz i am plannin to install zenoss on machine which is p3 with 512 of ram
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:04] <muqeet> so which OS would u suggest
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:15] <muqeet> i mean for zenoss to work seamlessly
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:27] <`m3_> ke4qqq, $HOME/bin/zenpack --install ?
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:50] <ke4qqq> mugeet: CentOS
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:56] <`m3_> muqeet, centos, rhel , fedora in that order
[18-Mar-2008 21:40:56] <ke4qqq> muqeet, CentOS
[18-Mar-2008 21:41:21] <ke4qqq> `m3_, the zenpack is already installed.....I just have forgotten how to tell it to apply to other machines
[18-Mar-2008 21:41:25] <ke4qqq> and start collecting data
[18-Mar-2008 21:45:18] <`m3_> ke4qqq, not sure , i added the zenpacks , modelled a new host and all the new stuff was in there automatically
[18-Mar-2008 21:46:27] <`m3_> try navigating to the host and modeling it again
[18-Mar-2008 21:46:52] <`m3_> or feed a list to zendisc maybe ...
[18-Mar-2008 21:51:03] <muqeet> `m3: so over centos works seamlesly with zenoss or its just that my machine has limited capabiltiy behind ur reasoning'
[18-Mar-2008 21:52:42] <`m3_> centos is the best ( imho ) for my needs
[18-Mar-2008 21:53:39] <`m3_> rhel is a good choice too
[18-Mar-2008 21:53:51] <`m3_> its the same thing really tho, which is why i take centos
[18-Mar-2008 21:54:52] <`m3_> i am running zenoss in a vps with 384mb ram, centos 4.5
[18-Mar-2008 21:54:58] <muqeet> k
[18-Mar-2008 21:55:00] <`m3_> its doing fine
[18-Mar-2008 21:58:07] <`m3_> 2.1.3 is a real improvement, that rocks
[18-Mar-2008 22:36:44] <johns55> m3, do u think its worth it to upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3?
[18-Mar-2008 22:37:01] <johns55> i mean, i dont have any problems besides my event logs not being able to scroll down
[18-Mar-2008 22:37:13] <johns55> release notes dont show that being fixed
[18-Mar-2008 22:53:55] <`m3_> johns55, 2.1.3 seems to have solved my main issue which was mapping events , i dont have any scroll problems
[18-Mar-2008 22:54:21] <`m3_> using FF here
[18-Mar-2008 22:58:54] <johns55> yeah ive tried FF and IE, cant scroll
[18-Mar-2008 22:59:24] <`m3_> really huge list ?
[18-Mar-2008 22:59:42] <`m3_> i noticed with 1000's of events the list can get "choppy"
[18-Mar-2008 23:00:31] <johns55> i cant even get a scroll bar on the side, it doesnt exist, when i roll down the scroll wheel on my mouse, it will scroll down and scroll back up to the top automatically
[18-Mar-2008 23:02:07] <`m3_> check pm
[18-Mar-2008 23:15:59] <johns55> pm?
[18-Mar-2008 23:16:39] <johns55> i've actually wrote about this on the boards a few times and havent gotten a reply
[18-Mar-2008 23:16:46] <johns55> a few people also have the same prob
[18-Mar-2008 23:19:22] <`m3_> prviate message, i sent you a url to my zenoss 2.1.3 install
[18-Mar-2008 23:19:30] <`m3_> private*
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:35] <johns55> hrm for some reason i didnt get it you probably didnt register your nick on freenode
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:48] <`m3_> doh
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:53] <`m3_> <`m3_> http://zenoss.iamgeek.com:8080/zport/dmd/Dashboard
[18-Mar-2008 23:20:54] <`m3_> <`m3_> guest / guest
[18-Mar-2008 23:21:04] <`m3_> wtheck , its the guest ;p
[18-Mar-2008 23:21:36] <johns55> incorrect pw or username
[18-Mar-2008 23:21:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Login (at zenoss.iamgeek.com:8080)
[18-Mar-2008 23:22:10] <`m3_> guest / guest123 ?
[18-Mar-2008 23:22:31] <johns55> ok there it goes..
[18-Mar-2008 23:23:09] <johns55> hrm your device list is not over a full page
[18-Mar-2008 23:23:15] <johns55> lets see what else..
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:02] <johns55> hrm do you know if you have a device list or events list that is long?
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:05] <`m3_> just qdjust the size of the window until its small enough to scroll, drag n drog style
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:23] <`m3_> drop*
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:34] <johns55> ahhh ok it might be my browser!
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:38] <johns55> cuz im getting the same thing
[18-Mar-2008 23:24:50] <johns55> no scroll bar
[18-Mar-2008 23:25:10] <johns55> let me try IE7
[18-Mar-2008 23:25:12] <`m3_> i think it must be , strange tho
[18-Mar-2008 23:26:20] <johns55> Wow, on IE7 it looks really jacked up
[18-Mar-2008 23:26:21] <johns55> lol
[18-Mar-2008 23:28:01] <johns55> http://www.pastethat.com/Pjdtn
[18-Mar-2008 23:28:08] <__adytum-bot__> Title: PasteThat (at www.pastethat.com)
[18-Mar-2008 23:28:55] <johns55> ok pw doesnt work anymore
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:27] <johns55> check it out
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:28] <johns55> http://www.pastethat.com/F5d9w
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: PasteThat (at www.pastethat.com)
[18-Mar-2008 23:35:40] <johns55> no scrollbar and theres more entries
[18-Mar-2008 23:36:49] <`m3_> must be a browser issue then
[18-Mar-2008 23:37:19] <johns55> what versuion firefox do u have?
[18-Mar-2008 23:38:37] <`m3_> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12
[18-Mar-2008 23:40:47] <johns55> hrm i have 2.0.0.11
[18-Mar-2008 23:41:34] <johns55> let me see if an update will solve the prob
[18-Mar-2008 23:43:27] <johns55> no that didnt do the trick
[18-Mar-2008 23:43:31] <johns55> strange...
[18-Mar-2008 23:43:56] <johns55> maybe a setting within my browser?
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[19-Mar-2008 08:11:17] <hanthana> guys
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:31] <hanthana> I tried to add / as a file system
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:37] <hanthana> got an error
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:43] <hanthana> Type: ZeroDivisionError
[19-Mar-2008 08:11:43] <hanthana> Value: float division
[19-Mar-2008 08:12:00] <hanthana> what should I do to resolve this??
[19-Mar-2008 08:20:24] <nemonl> morning
[19-Mar-2008 12:27:12] <nemonl> if evt.device.is=gramezza: evt.component=MISS ; evt.priority=0 ; evt.action=drop
[19-Mar-2008 12:27:36] <nemonl> whats the correct syntax of that transform, cant find any documentation for this
[19-Mar-2008 14:12:24] <MoreDakka_> Hey is there anyone awake in here yet?
[19-Mar-2008 14:12:43] <MoreDakka> Guess I could use my other chat window ;-)
[19-Mar-2008 14:13:05] <DarkMats> Benn awake for 9 hours now, so yes =)
[19-Mar-2008 14:13:34] <MoreDakka> ha, well here is a question then to try to keep you awake: How can I test WMI monitoring in zenoss?
[19-Mar-2008 14:14:11] <MoreDakka> I have tried to kill a service (imapi cd burning com service) and I had that monitored in Zenoss but it didn't error or anything.
[19-Mar-2008 14:15:12] <DarkMats> Sorry, don't know that. I don't monitor anything with WMI =/
[19-Mar-2008 14:15:41] <MoreDakka>
I don't either but a client needs a piece of software monitored and WMI is the best way to do it... :-/[19-Mar-2008 14:16:39] <DarkMats> Ah...
[19-Mar-2008 14:34:54] <MoreDakka> Lets see if the forums will answer that question.
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:00] <DarkMats> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-test-wmi-connectivity/
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:15] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - How To Test WMI Connectivity - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:34] <DarkMats> Don't know if that helps, but it's a try
[19-Mar-2008 14:38:54] <nemonl> handy bot
[19-Mar-2008 14:44:41] <MoreDakka> Thanks DarkMats, however I know that I can connect to the machine using WMI but it's the alerting in Zenoss that I'm trying to get going.
[19-Mar-2008 15:15:35] <rdb> Zenoss appliance doesn't seem to use SMP. Is there a way to enable this, or is it unnecessary?
[19-Mar-2008 15:20:23] <MoreDakka> Do you mean snmp?
[19-Mar-2008 15:55:17] <rdb> no, smp, miltiple CPUs
[19-Mar-2008 15:55:25] <rdb> s/mil/mul
[19-Mar-2008 16:30:14] <MoreDakka> Bah, because Zenoss is not alerting on winservices going down my boss is thinking about scrapping zenoss and going with Orion even though it would cost us $13k + to get it.
[19-Mar-2008 16:32:03] <MoreDakka> It's weird, zenwin doesn't even notice that I turned the service off. All there is in the zenwin log file is "INFO zen.zenwin: Async config notification" and of course reboot logs but other then that nothing else.
[19-Mar-2008 16:35:39] <MoreDakka> You would think that if a service is being monitored that if it is set to disabled it would have a red dot and not a green dot.
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[19-Mar-2008 17:13:21] <johns55> gray dot?
[19-Mar-2008 17:13:30] <MoreDakka> Nope, green dot
[19-Mar-2008 17:14:14] <MoreDakka> even after killing the service
[19-Mar-2008 17:14:30] <johns55> ok u might have a firewall issue
[19-Mar-2008 17:14:46] <MoreDakka> Fresh install of Win2k3 server, no firewall.
[19-Mar-2008 17:15:49] <johns55> u want to disable monitoring on a ipservice and it is showing green?
[19-Mar-2008 17:16:26] <MoreDakka> This on a WinService (example imapi cd burning service)
[19-Mar-2008 17:16:36] <MoreDakka> ipservice's work no problem.
[19-Mar-2008 17:17:00] <MoreDakka> Zenoss pulls the WinServices through WMI no problem but doesn't report when they are down.
[19-Mar-2008 17:56:40] <MoreDakka> Anyone have any ideas why WMI hates me?
[19-Mar-2008 19:22:57] <`m3_> evening
[19-Mar-2008 19:23:22] <`m3_> what causes an event not to have a component ? ( makes mapping impossible ? )
[19-Mar-2008 19:51:19] <`m3_> i cant be the only person with that issue, forums mention it but no real info, just problems
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:02] <jp10558> I'm trying to use the MySQL zenpack
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:07] <jp10558> and I've gotten it installed and configured, but now I'm getting:
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:12] <jp10558> Code: 1 - Msg: General error
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:24] <jp10558> looking closer, I can see in the zenhub log
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:25] <jp10558> :
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/services/CommandConfig.py", line 39, in getDataSourceCommands
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> cmdinfo = dev.getDataSourceCommands()
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 650, in getDataSourceCommands
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:27] <jp10558> cmds, threshs = (super(Device, self).getDataSourceCommands())
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:29] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/RRDView.py", line 344, in getDataSourceCommands
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:31] <jp10558> result.append( (getattr(ds, 'usessh', False),
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:33] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/MySqlMonitor/datasources/MySqlMonitorDataSource.py", line 100, in getCommand
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:35] <jp10558> cmd = BasicDataSource.BasicDataSource.getCommand(self, context, cmd)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:37] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/RRDDataSource.py", line 196, in getCommand
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:39] <jp10558> res = compiled(getEngine().getContext(environ))
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:41] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 224, in __call__
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:43] <jp10558> v = var(econtext)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:45] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 185, in __call__
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:47] <jp10558> return self._eval(econtext)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:49] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 173, in _eval
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:51] <jp10558> ob = self._subexprs[-1](econtext)
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:53] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 127, in _eval
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:55] <jp10558> ob = restrictedTraverse(ob, path, getSecurityManager())
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:57] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py", line 320, in restrictedTraverse
[19-Mar-2008 19:59:59] <jp10558> o = object[name]
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:01] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py", line 713, in __getitem__
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:03] <jp10558> raise KeyError, key
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:05] <jp10558> KeyError: 'zMySqlRootPassword'
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:07] <jp10558> I've tested the password in the command line, and it works for interactive login
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:09] <jp10558> one weird issue is the 'zMySqlRootPassword'
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:11] <jp10558> There isn't a variable named that
[19-Mar-2008 20:00:14] <jp10558> we only see cMySqlRootPassword
[19-Mar-2008 20:01:58] <`m3_> user root or zenoss jp10558
[19-Mar-2008 20:02:05] <`m3_> think it should be for zenoss
[19-Mar-2008 20:02:43] <jp10558> user should be zenoss?
[19-Mar-2008 20:02:54] <`m3_> jah
[19-Mar-2008 20:06:24] <Joelio> hi guys, is it possible to extend zenoss to get custom reporting out of it? We've got a number of customers that we'd like to create availability, performance etc.. reports for
[19-Mar-2008 20:07:20] <`m3_> well it logs to a mysql db, so yeh
[19-Mar-2008 20:07:29] <`m3_> if you can use mysql, your in luck
[19-Mar-2008 20:08:01] <`m3_> other than that, i have seen reporting option in zenoss, not dug into them deeply, and its open source of course ;p
[19-Mar-2008 20:09:47] <jp10558> no jot
[19-Mar-2008 20:09:52] <jp10558> changing to zenoss user
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:05] <jp10558> gives us an access denied error - the original error
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:12] <jp10558> was something else
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:16] <jp10558> it is using root
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:31] <`m3_> of course root can normally read everything
[19-Mar-2008 20:10:48] <`m3_> but most apps wont acccess a db as root
[19-Mar-2008 20:11:06] <`m3_> i mean , most ppl dont, the app will prob do it whatever ;p
[19-Mar-2008 20:12:06] <jp10558> sure, but the ZenPack is using root - it has this command
[19-Mar-2008 20:12:27] <jp10558> Cmd: $ZENHOME/Products/MySqlMonitor/libexec/check_mysql_stats.py -H server -p 3306 -u root -w 'password' -g - Code: 1 - Msg: General error
[19-Mar-2008 20:12:41] <jp10558> well, the Code:1 is from the error
[19-Mar-2008 20:14:16] <`m3_> jp10558, hack the .py file
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:02] <jp10558> If only I knew how
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:11] <`m3_> check_mysql prob should run as root btw
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:44] <jp10558> Why would the error show the password though?
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:45] <`m3_> just search for user / pass
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:53] <`m3_> errors never show passwords
[19-Mar-2008 20:15:58] <`m3_> or shouldnt
[19-Mar-2008 20:16:03] <jp10558> In zenoss the events do though
[19-Mar-2008 20:16:09] <jp10558> sorry, I meant the event in zenoss
[19-Mar-2008 21:05:47] <monrad> anyone know about some good enviromental monitoring systems for serverrooms. we had a water pipe burst earlier today
[19-Mar-2008 21:11:11] <KillMeNow> hrm... only things you can monitor would be temp and humidity
[19-Mar-2008 21:11:19] <KillMeNow> and that would be from the AC unit usually
[19-Mar-2008 21:14:10] <monrad> well we could lay water sensors in all the drip trays
[19-Mar-2008 21:18:53] <malbon> lo all
[19-Mar-2008 21:18:58] <malbon> anyone here use HPUX?
[19-Mar-2008 21:19:08] <`m3_> ok, monrad sensors are available widely
[19-Mar-2008 21:19:24] <`m3_> theres already nagios plugs for it ( for use in zenoss )
[19-Mar-2008 21:20:15] <malbon> `m3_: nagios plugin? hmm, no longer required, I am soliciting testers for my zenpack
[19-Mar-2008 21:20:32] <`m3_> sweet deal
[19-Mar-2008 21:21:01] <`m3_> know anything about mapping events and blank components, and / or transforms ?
[19-Mar-2008 21:21:24] <malbon> works on 11iv1 and 11iv2, I don't have any 11iv3 boxen, so I want to check it works.
[19-Mar-2008 21:21:44] <`m3_> sure it does
[19-Mar-2008 21:22:02] <`m3_> nothing changed that much did it ?
[19-Mar-2008 21:22:38] <malbon> `m3_: nope, I know nothing of those things, I only used the examples posted around, fixed up performance reporting from the mib etc.
[19-Mar-2008 21:23:17] <malbon> next project will be brocade switches, or cannon printers if I can get the mib.
[19-Mar-2008 21:23:28] <malbon> `m3_: want to give it a go?
[19-Mar-2008 21:23:54] <`m3_> give what a go malbon ?
[19-Mar-2008 21:24:22] <malbon> my hpux zenpack
[19-Mar-2008 21:25:18] <`m3_> ive used hpux but i dont have boxen anymore. that risc hardware is rare these days ;p
[19-Mar-2008 21:26:14] <malbon> k, shame
[19-Mar-2008 21:26:59] <malbon> if any sleepers want to try it, you can get it here: http://www.hopeless-newbie.co.uk/HPUX.zip but give me feedback
[19-Mar-2008 21:29:30] <MoreDakka> Any Devs in here now?
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[20-Mar-2008 07:38:47] <joe159> g'day
[20-Mar-2008 07:39:43] <joe159> does anyone know if I can collect cisco IOS configurations from zenoss?
[20-Mar-2008 08:51:33] <nemonl> joe159, yes you can , snmp discover it
[20-Mar-2008 11:30:19] <kop__> uh, okay
[20-Mar-2008 11:30:59] <kop__> one of my switches send the snmp_linkDown in a fashion that doesn't work well with zenoss right now
[20-Mar-2008 11:31:34] <kop__> it's very similar to http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004914.html except this is an HP Procurve
[20-Mar-2008 11:33:03] <kop__> the trap contains a property which key corresponds to the interface in question, i.e. {'1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11.137': 137} for interface 137
[20-Mar-2008 11:39:18] <kop__> should I go about and try to loop through all propertis of the event and see if I can match "1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11.(\d+)" in the transform?
[20-Mar-2008 11:39:51] <kop__> someone else must have been doing this already...
[20-Mar-2008 12:12:47] <nemo_> transforms ... i cant even tell if theyre processed or not
[20-Mar-2008 12:12:54] <nemo_> doesnt seem to do anything for me
[20-Mar-2008 12:15:42] <kop__> sorry?
[20-Mar-2008 15:04:34] <MoreDakka> Anyone know how to graph uptime?
[20-Mar-2008 15:52:22] <nemo_> More: snmp oid oid for uptime is easiest
[20-Mar-2008 15:52:28] <nemo_> MoreDakka,
[20-Mar-2008 15:52:39] <MoreDakka> How can I graph it?
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:13] <nemo_> snmpwalk the host, find the oid
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:13] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to create a "
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:27] <nemo_> if its there, just tell zenoss to model the device
[20-Mar-2008 15:53:31] <MoreDakka> TickstoDays"
[20-Mar-2008 15:55:22] <MoreDakka> i guess a better question would be, how can I get Zenoss to use this on the information from the OID? "8640000,/", need to divide the results by that number to get the uptime in days.
[20-Mar-2008 15:56:37] <Adylas> Hello, I got 400 device to monitor, I m A-Not interested to put an snmp agent on all of em. B-Not interested to add them in a manual way. I would just like to discover via portsan + host name resolution. Is this possible ?
[20-Mar-2008 15:56:47] <nemo_> no idea bout that, i think it will happen automatically if your setup is right
[20-Mar-2008 15:57:37] <MoreDakka> nemo_, are you talking to Adylas or myself?
[20-Mar-2008 15:59:20] <nemo_> i am talking to MoreDakka
[20-Mar-2008 16:00:19] <MoreDakka> Ah, sorry wasn't sure. If I try to graph sysuptime by default it creates a graph that is like a traffic graph, because the number that you will get from sysuptime's oid will be in the millions.
[20-Mar-2008 16:05:07] <Adylas> Any idea about how to map 400 devices without adding them manually or installing snmp on it ?
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:05] <nemo_> lots of ways to do it
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:23] <MoreDakka> I haven't personally done it but I thought Zenoss would scan any subnets that are inputted into networks. The portscan no, it would discover via icmp I'm pretty sure of that one.
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:25] <nemo_> have you read the zenoss website at all ?
[20-Mar-2008 16:06:46] <MoreDakka> <now's the time to link to zenoss.com>
[20-Mar-2008 16:07:20] <MoreDakka> The Admin guide might give some information on that or search the forums as well.
[20-Mar-2008 16:07:22] <nemo_> in the networks tab theres an action for "discover"
[20-Mar-2008 16:25:58] <Adylas> MoreDakka, nemo_ in the discover part of the admin guide, its written that the auto discover is only for host with snmp.
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:31] <nemo_> plugins
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:35] <likuidkewl> All we have an issue that just reared its head and that we cannot find an easy answer to. Currently we are running a test setup here (some of you may have seen Blinny aka Michael) asking about sertain aspects, now we have tried to setup the email alerts they seem to tst fine in the respect that we get one from the "test" and one from the Zentrap service being restarted BUT nothing else comes in eventhough the email alert is set at info or abov
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:37] <nemo_> ipservice
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:38] <MoreDakka> have you tried to add a network in and do an auto-discovery to it?
[20-Mar-2008 16:27:58] <nemo_> i did it last night and it worked on non snmp kit
[20-Mar-2008 16:29:32] <nemo_> not true actually
[20-Mar-2008 16:29:43] <nemo_> i jsut didnt know they had snmp running, sry
[20-Mar-2008 16:30:41] <likuidkewl> Another "issue" we noted too is that in order to see events we cannot utilize the dashboard/device issues section as it always reads "No records found" But when we view the Events there are many(23) in relation to the "Heartbeat Failure" ?? Any ideas?
[20-Mar-2008 16:30:42] <nemo_> Adylas, use the command line to add devices
[20-Mar-2008 16:31:28] <nemo_> likuidkewl, event manager, clear all heartbeats,m clear event cache
[20-Mar-2008 16:34:54] <likuidkewl> "Clearing" the heartbeats doesn't do much besides starting the counts back to zero until it polls again. Is Ack then moving to history waht you are referring too?
[20-Mar-2008 16:35:17] <nemo_> check your logs, you got something wrong there then
[20-Mar-2008 17:16:17] <twm1010> hello hello
[20-Mar-2008 17:23:17] <imperfect-> What do I get if i purchase the Enterprise version? is it just support?
[20-Mar-2008 17:28:21] <Adylas> imperfect-: Hello, in the zenoss.com website, there is a "compare" link at the left
[20-Mar-2008 17:33:16] <Adylas> lol the price is just lol , I got 400 resources to monitor .. 100$ per resources : 40k for a monitoring software that does maybe 10-20% better than nagios ?
[20-Mar-2008 17:34:15] <Adylas> at that price, I will just hire a guy that write ASM to write a software that will do it ;-)
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[20-Mar-2008 17:39:38] <twm1010> well who are you paying for nagios support now?
[20-Mar-2008 17:39:50] <twm1010> and why isn't zenoss core sufficient?
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:26] <imperfect-> lol
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:27] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:40] <imperfect-> There seems to be like
[20-Mar-2008 17:40:44] <imperfect-> zero documentation that's worth a damn
[20-Mar-2008 17:41:59] <twm1010> Sounds like you're not really putting in any effort
[20-Mar-2008 17:42:35] <twm1010> There's 207 pages in the manual, plenty of information right there. You just have to read it.
[20-Mar-2008 17:44:25] <twm1010> I guess what I'm saying here is, you sound like you don't want to spend money, but it doesn't sound like you're willing to spend any time on it either. It's gonna cost you at least one or the other, if not both.
[20-Mar-2008 17:44:30] <twm1010> Especially since time is money
[20-Mar-2008 17:48:03] <Adylas> twm1010: I am doing the support. about 0.1% of my time for 65k a year, so 65$ a year.
[20-Mar-2008 17:48:36] <MoreDakka> $65/year is your budget...yeesh.
[20-Mar-2008 17:48:36] <Adylas> And it does work nice, but I just don't like it.
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:00] <Adylas> Naa I m sure that my boss would be willing to put 1/2k in a monitoring, but not 40.
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:25] <MoreDakka> 1/2k is just the server costs and not any labor costs to set it up and maintain it... :-/
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:26] <Adylas> we are not NASA here ;-)
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:47] <twm1010> I threw my Zenoss machine up as Virtual Appliance tagged onto one of our webservers that generally idles all day.
[20-Mar-2008 17:49:53] <twm1010> and went from there.
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:01] <Adylas> monitor is a small part of maintain.
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:10] <twm1010> Only cost so far has been my times
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:37] <twm1010> It's monitoring 196 devices, of varying O/S, reporting performance, and alerting me nicely, but the learning curve for me was enormous.
[20-Mar-2008 17:50:49] <MoreDakka> ^^ yep
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:01] <Adylas> It took ? A week ? 2 weeks ?
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:16] <MoreDakka> what sucks is zenoss's wmi alerting isn't working for me so my boss is wanting me to look into orion....expensive.
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:22] <twm1010> Ah... you got me there, on and off time for maybe 3 months...
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:29] <twm1010> MoreDakka, what kind of alerting?
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:30] <MoreDakka> ^^ Yep
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:43] <MoreDakka> when a service fails or is stopped.
[20-Mar-2008 17:51:57] <twm1010> Honestly, I found SNMP traps to handle critical events, hardware failure, etc., and am using the perfmon zenpack for performance monitoring
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:01] <MoreDakka> Zenoss 2.1.2 doesn't alert me or even notice that the server has stopped.
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:17] <twm1010> You don't even get a pingdown?!
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:33] <Adylas> monitor the service , not the daemon ..
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:43] <MoreDakka> If the server drops I'll get alerts on that but I'm wanting to monitor a mission critical application and snmp can't do that for me.
[20-Mar-2008 17:52:51] <Adylas> Because sometimes, the daemon (service) can run, but the result is just not there.
[20-Mar-2008 17:53:00] <twm1010> Hrmmm... you know what you could do?
[20-Mar-2008 17:53:15] <twm1010> Use the same mechanism the perfmon zenpack uses to run typeperf
[20-Mar-2008 17:53:24] <twm1010> and have it check the status of the service
[20-Mar-2008 17:54:51] <MoreDakka> I've never used the perfmon pack or any zenpacks for that matter.....yay another learning curve ;-)
[20-Mar-2008 18:01:29] <twm1010> its pretty easy
[20-Mar-2008 18:01:45] <twm1010> what it does is use the windows credentials you provide in the zprops, to remote execute typeperf
[20-Mar-2008 18:01:53] <twm1010> which returns a standard windows performance counter of your choosing
[20-Mar-2008 18:02:06] <twm1010> i use it for all windows performance monitoring
[20-Mar-2008 18:02:25] <MoreDakka> So a piece of software would be installed on the client to get this working?
[20-Mar-2008 18:07:15] <twm1010> it pushes a service called WINEXE to the clients
[20-Mar-2008 18:07:21] <twm1010> thru WMI i believe
[20-Mar-2008 18:11:07] <twm1010> though, i would think this would be a good time to be sure your domain account doesn't have god-like powers
[20-Mar-2008 18:11:21] <twm1010> otherwise someone could use this to make your zenoss box destroy your windows network
[20-Mar-2008 18:21:42] <twm1010> if you look on enterprise zenpacks though, you will see that zenoss wrote something similar, so clearly they see some merit to it
[20-Mar-2008 19:07:06] <imperfect-> Is there something special I need to do to get zen to get an interface list from a switch and start doing performance graphs besides add the device?
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:27] <MoreDakka> add the device with snmp and it should poll all the ports and create traffic graphs for those ports.
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:36] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:38] <imperfect-> It's not doing that
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:46] <imperfect-> The device is there but there's nothing under PEF
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:47] <imperfect-> er PERF
[20-Mar-2008 19:08:55] <MoreDakka> Nope, it's under OS.
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:00] <MoreDakka> then the interface is there.
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:04] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:06] <imperfect-> ti's not there either
[20-Mar-2008 19:09:09] <MoreDakka> as long as snmp is working
[20-Mar-2008 19:10:38] <imperfect-> well O just added another device
[20-Mar-2008 19:10:42] <imperfect-> and it works as your described
[20-Mar-2008 19:10:43] <imperfect-> lets hope
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:43] <imperfect-> Thing is, I don't see how this is very useful. ;(
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:51] <MoreDakka> ?
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:54] <imperfect-> I mean it seems like a total PITA to create a map
[20-Mar-2008 19:17:55] <imperfect-> etc
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:04] <imperfect-> I need a pretty dahboard for the managers
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:08] <MoreDakka> Ahh
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:09] <MoreDakka> haha
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:25] <MoreDakka> sucka ;-) Yeah the map isn't really useful at all, just to make things look pretty.
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:39] <imperfect-> Tell ya wwhat stinks
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:46] <MoreDakka> I just disabled it on mine, saves on load time too.
[20-Mar-2008 19:18:47] <imperfect-> it wont get interface stats from my cisco 6513
[20-Mar-2008 19:19:23] <MoreDakka> Does it list interfaces just no graphs are generated?
[20-Mar-2008 19:19:49] <imperfect-> Nope
[20-Mar-2008 19:19:53] <imperfect-> it says no interfaces
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:00] <MoreDakka> Maybe it's right?
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:01] <MoreDakka> \haha
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:08] <imperfect-> well
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:12] <imperfect-> Considering I've got like
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:14] <MoreDakka> That would be a sweet switch.
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:16] <imperfect-> > 300 ports in there
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:19] <MoreDakka> hehe
[20-Mar-2008 19:20:50] <MoreDakka> Hmm, not sure what do tell you, if snmp is working on the device (can you snmpwalk it from the command line?)
[20-Mar-2008 19:21:09] <MoreDakka> And when you walk it (if that works) can you see the ports there?
[20-Mar-2008 19:21:23] <imperfect-> I've got other software that it works fine for
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:01] <MoreDakka> Hm, not sure what to tell you then.
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:35] <imperfect-> Yeah
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:37] <imperfect-> it's bizarre
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:43] <imperfect-> 2k HP switch works great
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:46] <imperfect-> 150k cisco
[20-Mar-2008 19:22:47] <imperfect-> not so much
[20-Mar-2008 19:25:28] <imperfect-> INFO zen.ZenModelerno portscan plugins found for
[20-Mar-2008 19:25:33] <imperfect-> Wonder if that's why
[20-Mar-2008 19:26:17] <imperfect-> NOpe
[20-Mar-2008 19:26:22] <imperfect-> sayst hat for all of em
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[21-Mar-2008 01:33:13] <monrad> nice a fix for the memleak in the datacollector, i think i need to apply soon
[21-Mar-2008 01:33:27] <monrad> it pays of to read the trac timeline
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[21-Mar-2008 11:33:25] <[Wiebel]> hmmz
[21-Mar-2008 11:33:34] <[Wiebel]> it would be cool if zenoss had snmp write support
[21-Mar-2008 11:33:43] <[Wiebel]> so I can enable or disable switch ports
[21-Mar-2008 13:03:49] <imperfect-> Hey
[21-Mar-2008 13:04:05] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to map events to auto acknowledge and go to history?
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[24-Mar-2008 13:13:30] <jp10558> Anyone here using the MySQL monitor zenpack? I'm still getting a Code: 1 - Msg: General error ... and no graphs
[24-Mar-2008 16:03:18] <draygon> Hello, anyone here?
[24-Mar-2008 16:03:18] <draygon> libmysqlclient.so.15 is needed by zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386
[24-Mar-2008 16:03:24] <draygon> How do I fix that? or what do I install?
[24-Mar-2008 16:06:22] <draygon> libmysqlclient.so.15 is needed by zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386
[24-Mar-2008 16:06:23] <draygon> How do I fix that? or what do I install?
[24-Mar-2008 16:11:48] <wassy121> draygon: that is part of the mysql-shared package.
[24-Mar-2008 16:11:59] <wassy121> Depending on your OS, you can install it in different ways.
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:20] <draygon> CentOS
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:32] <wassy121> 3/4/5?
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:35] <draygon> cant find a way to install though
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:36] <draygon> 5
[24-Mar-2008 16:12:56] <wassy121> first, let me be sure you don't have a custom version of mysql?
[24-Mar-2008 16:13:20] <draygon> I have a control panel installed on the server (directadmin)
[24-Mar-2008 16:13:24] <draygon> but that should affect anything
[24-Mar-2008 16:14:29] <wassy121> Run 'rpm -qi mysql' to see if you have the centos version.
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:01] <wassy121> It looks like mysql on centos 5 actually provides the libraries in that package. You may just need to run 'yum install mysql'
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:16] <draygon> [root@main ~]# rpm -qi mysql
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:16] <draygon> package mysql is not installed
[24-Mar-2008 16:16:16] <draygon> [root@main ~]#
[24-Mar-2008 16:19:55] <draygon> ?
[24-Mar-2008 16:20:20] <MoreDakka_> Quoted from wassy121 "You may just need to run 'yum install mysql' "
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:03] <MoreDakka_> Have you gone through this http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ ?
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:17] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL5 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:25] <wassy121> I am afraid you may have a custom MySQL installation, especially if you have a control-panelled server.
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:27] <MoreDakka_> Follow each step exactly and you'll get zenoss installed.
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:36] <wassy121> That is my only fear.
[24-Mar-2008 16:21:45] <wassy121> The 'yum install mysql' will definately install the package.
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:10] <wassy121> try 'locate mysql | grep bin'
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:19] <MoreDakka_> what about a ' ps aux |grep mysql ' Would that come up with mysql even if custom?
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:24] <wassy121> Just to be sure there isn't a crazy non-standard version on there.
[24-Mar-2008 16:22:32] <wassy121> Yes, that would work to see if it is running moreDakka.
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:06] <draygon> yep
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:08] <draygon> mysql is install
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:18] <wassy121> See, it is never easy.
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:27] <wassy121> try 'locate mysql | grep so$'
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:33] <wassy121> To find the library locations.
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:34] <MoreDakka_> On a fresh install of CentOS5 it's really easy ;-)
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:39] <wassy121> ./agree
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:52] <draygon> [root@server ~]# locate mysql | grep so$
[24-Mar-2008 16:23:52] <draygon> [root@server ~]#
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:09] <wassy121> how about 'rpm -qa | grep -i mysql'
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:25] <draygon> MySQL-client-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:25] <draygon> MySQL-server-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:25] <draygon> MySQL-devel-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:31] <wassy121> Ah. Community version.
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:35] <wassy121> It seems.
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:47] <draygon> possibly, how do I get this installed though
[24-Mar-2008 16:24:59] <draygon> this specific depen, so I can get zenoss installed
[24-Mar-2008 16:25:02] <wassy121> You need to find/download/install 'MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0"
[24-Mar-2008 16:25:32] <wassy121> rpm -qi MySQL-server-5.0.37-0
[24-Mar-2008 16:25:36] <wassy121> What does that turn up?
[24-Mar-2008 16:26:26] <wassy121> That usually points to the build host, or vendor or something.
[24-Mar-2008 16:26:50] <wassy121> That leads to the RPM location of the original packages.
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:08] <draygon> Name : MySQL-server Relocations: (not relocatable)
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:08] <draygon> Version : 5.0.37 Vendor: MySQL AB
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:35] <wassy121> If this is a shared server (which control panel machines sometimes are), it may have a custom set of RPMs or a custom repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:52] <draygon> [root@server yum.repos.d]# ls
[24-Mar-2008 16:27:52] <draygon> CentOS-Base.repo CentOS-Media.repo
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:04] <wassy121> hmm, try 'yum install MySQL-shared'
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:19] <wassy121> If that prompts you to actually install the package, then go for it.
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:30] <wassy121> Maybe my CentOS5 machine is wacky . . .
[24-Mar-2008 16:29:57] <MoreDakka_> That is the one thing I don't like about Linux...trying to fill dependencies... :-/
[24-Mar-2008 16:30:07] <MoreDakka_> a glorious pain.
[24-Mar-2008 16:30:44] <wassy121> Yep, because it has to be so specific. And there are so many variables depending on which versions you have of everything.
[24-Mar-2008 16:31:13] <draygon> Nothing
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:11] <wassy121> It seems you have the community version pre-installed on there by your provider.
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:21] <draygon> ok
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:22] <draygon> now
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:25] <wassy121> At mysql.com somewhere there is a link to the old archives.
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:32] <wassy121> Where you need to find that specific RPM
[24-Mar-2008 16:33:38] <draygon> which one?
[24-Mar-2008 16:34:05] <wassy121> You need to find/download/install 'MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0"
[24-Mar-2008 16:34:46] <draygon> would that conflict with the current version i have installed
[24-Mar-2008 16:35:02] <wassy121> You don't have a current version of that package installed.
[24-Mar-2008 16:35:19] <wassy121> This is to ensure the MySQL-shared package is the same version as your MySQL-server and MySQL-client package.
[24-Mar-2008 16:36:51] <wassy121> http://files.directadmin.com/services/all/mysql/MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0.i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:00] <wassy121> rpm -Uvh http://files.directadmin.com/services/all/mysql/MySQL-shared-5.0.37-0.i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:28] <draygon> run that command?
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:32] <wassy121> yes.
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:46] <draygon> .i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:46] <draygon> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:46] <draygon> 1:MySQL-shared ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:48] <wassy121> It should download/install without any complaints.
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:53] <draygon> thats it
[24-Mar-2008 16:37:54] <draygon> is it done/
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:04] <wassy121> Did you get a command prompt back?
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:08] <draygon> yep
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:10] <wassy121> Then yes.
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:15] <wassy121> Now try to install zenoss again.
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:43] <draygon> [root@server ~]# rpm -ihv zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386.rpm
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:44] <draygon> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:44] <draygon> 1:zenoss ########################################### [100%]
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:44] <draygon> [root@server ~]#
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:49] <draygon> is zenoss done installing that quick?
[24-Mar-2008 16:38:53] <wassy121> fixed.
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:03] <wassy121> Yeah.
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:08] <wassy121> It is fast/easy to install it.
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:09] <draygon> nice you rock man
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:13] <draygon> so what do i do now?
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:16] <draygon> just point my browser?
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:17] <wassy121> hahaha
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[24-Mar-2008 16:39:37] <draygon> on: zenping starting...
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:37] <draygon> WARN: config file /opt/zenoss/etc/zenping.conf not found skipping
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:37] <draygon> Daemon: zensyslog starting...
[24-Mar-2008 16:39:57] <wassy121-afk> read the FAQ/howto through a few times.
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[24-Mar-2008 17:20:23] <draygon> hey
[24-Mar-2008 17:20:33] <draygon> whic files do I edit for the database information etc in zenoss?
[24-Mar-2008 17:21:00] <npmccallum> Who is the right person to talk about Zenoss' QA with?
[24-Mar-2008 17:44:13] <draygon> hey
[24-Mar-2008 17:44:20] <draygon> where do I specify the database details?
[24-Mar-2008 18:00:31] <draygon> hey what is the default login/password after setup?
[24-Mar-2008 18:04:33] <npmccallum> draygon: admin/zenoss
[24-Mar-2008 18:06:40] <draygon> got it, thanks
[24-Mar-2008 18:44:10] <kgoedtel> .
[24-Mar-2008 19:01:02] <jp10558> Anyone have any ideas about the event Code: 1 - Msg: General error with the MySQL zenpack?
[24-Mar-2008 19:11:25] <draygon> where are you getting that?
[24-Mar-2008 19:23:02] <jp10558> As an event
[24-Mar-2008 19:23:14] <jp10558> for a system that I've bound the MySQL zenpac kto
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[25-Mar-2008 07:05:12] <nemo_> morning
[25-Mar-2008 08:03:45] <nemo_> hmm my zenoss slowed down to a crawl with 216999 items in the event console.
[25-Mar-2008 08:03:55] <nemo_> whats a good mysql query to clear that
[25-Mar-2008 10:54:48] <nemo_> anyone forwards syslogs to zenoss?
[25-Mar-2008 11:57:15] <Joelio> hey guys, does anybody know what the pricing structure for the xSP release is?
[25-Mar-2008 14:35:16] <jb> I'm trying to ignore filesystem thresholds/alerts for 2 filesystems that appear on every server within /Devices/Server/Linux
[25-Mar-2008 14:35:39] <jb> I thought I could set the zFileSystemIgnore zproperty on the entire Linux tree, but it appear that I cant.. any ideas on how I can do this?
[25-Mar-2008 14:36:24] <MoreDakka_> You could change the alert to not include file system alerts...but that will be for all systems.
[25-Mar-2008 14:38:43] <jb> yeah.. dont want to do that
[25-Mar-2008 14:40:42] <MoreDakka_> What about changing the thresholds?
[25-Mar-2008 14:42:22] <jb> i really only want to ignore these two NFS filesystems that appear on every box.. not change the threshold for all filesystems
[25-Mar-2008 15:11:44] <danw_> afternoon anyone around?
[25-Mar-2008 15:19:39] <TheFRC> hi
[25-Mar-2008 15:22:50] <TheFRC> i can't seem to find in the faq if zenoss core support snmpv3
[25-Mar-2008 15:23:00] <TheFRC> anyone here know?
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[25-Mar-2008 16:02:59] <danw_> how can i add vmware hosts/guests in the core version?
[25-Mar-2008 17:04:28] <Muxen> has anyone tried the LDAP ActiveDirectory stuff in 2.1.3? I followed the WIKI howto on it, but the plugins dont show up?
[25-Mar-2008 17:14:10] <Muxen> ok, so I get that when python is starting it can not find python-ldap, this is because PYTHONPATH is set to $ZENHOME/lib/python instead of the system python dir??
[25-Mar-2008 17:14:21] <Muxen> echo ...
[25-Mar-2008 18:52:52] <TheFRC> nm. found my answer.
[25-Mar-2008 18:53:01] <TheFRC> snmpv4 is supported in core since 2.1.1
[25-Mar-2008 18:53:09] * TheFRC looks at his hands warily
[25-Mar-2008 18:53:13] <TheFRC> snmpv3 too
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[26-Mar-2008 01:44:31] <locohost__> hmm, trying to think of the best way to use the 64 bit counter for almost every device, but be able to use the 32 for just a few devices that dont like it
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[26-Mar-2008 05:30:48] <Daemoen> are there plans to update zenoss to rely on newer python versions? ie 2.5 instead of 2.3 and 2.4
[26-Mar-2008 05:48:37] <TheFRC> hi
[26-Mar-2008 05:49:09] <TheFRC> i'm sure it's in the roadmap somewhere
[26-Mar-2008 05:49:18] <TheFRC> i am just making educated guesses though
[26-Mar-2008 14:10:16] <locohost> anyone know off hand where to change the log path?
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[26-Mar-2008 14:22:02] <locohost> on one of my dev boxes, i did a reinstall of zenoss, and the down arrow on the main navigation tab (status, os, hw, software, events) is just gone
[26-Mar-2008 14:22:06] <locohost> anyone have any idea?
[26-Mar-2008 14:22:49] <MoreDakka_> Ctrl-f5?
[26-Mar-2008 14:22:57] <MoreDakka_> (just a thought)
[26-Mar-2008 14:26:57] <locohost> heh, yeah, tried a refresh, another browser, restarting zenoss, different computer,
[26-Mar-2008 14:28:02] <MoreDakka_> I had that problem when I upgraded from 1.1.1 -> 2.0.3 ->2.1.0 . And for some reason I can't remember the fix.
[26-Mar-2008 14:28:15] <MoreDakka_> The only other thing that can magically fix lots of stuff is zenmigrate
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:24] <locohost> it wasnt an upgrade, but i did remove the rpm and reinstall the same version, trying that now
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:39] <locohost> if not ill just say f it, and do a fresh kickstart install
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:49] <MoreDakka_> haha
[26-Mar-2008 14:32:53] <MoreDakka_> that always works ;-)
[26-Mar-2008 14:36:39] <locohost> stop zenoss before doing casting that zenmigrate spell?
[26-Mar-2008 14:37:53] <MoreDakka_> I don't think so, I haven't run it in a while but I'm pretty zenoss was still running cause it needs zeoctrl (bah, brain isn't working today, I think that's the process name).
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:07] <locohost> zenmigrate -v 10 --step=MenuRelations ftw
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:23] <locohost> thanks dude
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:32] <MoreDakka_> Did it work?
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:54] <locohost> yeah `zenmigrate -v 10 --step=MenuRelations
[26-Mar-2008 14:39:54] <locohost> ` as zenoss did it
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:14] <locohost> while zenoss was running
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:26] <locohost> the the mystical ctrl f5 you speak so highly of
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:33] <MoreDakka_> Zenmigrage fixes lots of stuff and gives food to the homeless it's soo good.
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:39] <MoreDakka_> zenmigrate even
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:52] <locohost> it just asked for 7 red mana crystals, luckily i had them
[26-Mar-2008 14:40:56] <MoreDakka_> hahaha
[26-Mar-2008 14:46:08] <MoreDakka_> Yay, haven't worked with AD or Exchange in a long time and I have to find out what's wrong with our client's server...gah.
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:12] <locohost> it sounds like maybe there server has windows on it. ...
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:16] <locohost> sounds like a good enough RCA to me
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:29] <MoreDakka_> RCA?
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:38] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:47] <locohost> root cause analysis
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:53] <MoreDakka> haha
[26-Mar-2008 14:50:56] <MoreDakka> yep
[26-Mar-2008 15:04:56] <TheFRC> hi
[26-Mar-2008 15:24:32] <nemo_> HELLO
[26-Mar-2008 15:26:43] <KillMeNow> howdy
[26-Mar-2008 15:34:31] <locohost> hi
[26-Mar-2008 15:37:11] <MoreDakka> hallo
[26-Mar-2008 15:39:53] <locohost> bah, now my preference tab is blank
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:02] <locohost> pref* rather
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:03] <MoreDakka> haha...
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:11] <MoreDakka> well, it's not really funny
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:19] <MoreDakka> well, sorta is though.
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:41] <nemo_> MoreDakka, dutch ?
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:50] <MoreDakka> Nope, Canadian
[26-Mar-2008 15:40:58] <nemo_> oh no !
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:06] <MoreDakka> oh no?
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:09] <nemo_> j/k
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:11] <nemo_> ;p
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:14] <MoreDakka> Canada ftw ;-)
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:21] <locohost> <--from holland
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:33] <locohost> well, 3 generations ago, anyway
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:35] <nemo_> <--- living in holland
[26-Mar-2008 15:41:53] <locohost> Have you ever head of Simon Van Slingelandt?
[26-Mar-2008 15:42:04] <nemo_> nope
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:00] <locohost> he was a staunch republican, who wanted to keep the House of Orange out of the centre of power in the early-mid 1700s
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:13] <nemo_> thats why i didnt hear about him then ;p
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:39] <nemo_> cool name tho
[26-Mar-2008 15:43:43] <locohost> Grand Pensionary of Holland from July 17, 1727 to December 1, 1736.
[26-Mar-2008 15:46:37] <TheFRC> how's the assett management side of zenoss?
[26-Mar-2008 15:46:42] <TheFRC> i don't see a lot of info on it
[26-Mar-2008 15:46:58] <TheFRC> beyond "node name" "hostname" "node type"
[26-Mar-2008 15:47:22] <TheFRC> can i fill it with serial numbers, and physical location identifiers?
[26-Mar-2008 15:47:33] <locohost> i made zenoss read of my existing cmdb, i was not happy with it
[26-Mar-2008 16:14:09] Spec[x] is now known as Spec
[26-Mar-2008 16:29:33] aedaemoen_home is now known as aedaemoen
[26-Mar-2008 16:29:47] <aedaemoen> Good morning all
[26-Mar-2008 16:38:21] <aedaemoen> has anyone had any issues installing zenoss on RHEL5?
[26-Mar-2008 16:38:41] <MoreDakka> I've isntalled it many times on CentOS 5 without issues.
[26-Mar-2008 16:38:48] * aedaemoen nods.
[26-Mar-2008 16:39:02] <aedaemoen> just curious. I know on Fedora8 it didnt play so well
[26-Mar-2008 16:39:20] <MoreDakka> Ah, that's never fun
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:15] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: Im debating if I want to implement zenoss or stick with nagios for our environment. right now im leaning at zenoss for a rather silly reason....
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:29] <locohost> rhel 4 and 5 over here
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:35] * locohost wanders to a meeting
[26-Mar-2008 16:40:48] <MoreDakka> I didn't use Nagios for very long, it's not bad but the configuration sucks.
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:10] <MoreDakka> Zenoss is nice for it's configuration abilities but I find that Nagios's alerting was better.
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:21] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: yeah... i installed it, but im very new to snmp and such so its also rather confusing (nagios)
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:28] <aedaemoen> really? zenoss implements nagios though...
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:37] <MoreDakka> We use a combo of Zenoss and Cacti (it's easier to create graphs in Cacti rather then Zenoss)
[26-Mar-2008 16:41:45] * aedaemoen goes googling
[26-Mar-2008 16:42:35] <MoreDakka> I just liked Nagios's alerting, Zenoss is good but not as detailed as I would like it (my fav in Nagios is the Packetloss monitoring, haven't been able to get that going in Zenoss
)[26-Mar-2008 16:43:38] * aedaemoen nods.
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:01] <aedaemoen> how experienced are/were you with monitoring in general? fairly new to it or?
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:15] <MoreDakka> extremely new.
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:22] <MoreDakka> I was new to Linux and monitoring.
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:24] <aedaemoen> ahh
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:49] <aedaemoen> so then for a fairly experienced admin using zenoss shouldnt be too bad for the first go round
[26-Mar-2008 16:44:56] <MoreDakka> So Zenoss was my first real taste of it. I will vouche for it though, has saved us in a couple outages.
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:03] * aedaemoen nods
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:04] <MoreDakka> Nope, should be good.
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:26] <TheFRC> can you write your own custom checks and get zenoss to use them?
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:30] <MoreDakka> We are still running v1.1.1 and the transition to 2.1.3 is being a bit of a pain...but that's our fault for not upgrading more.
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:37] <TheFRC> i'm not new to monitoring at all, just new to zenoss
[26-Mar-2008 16:45:51] <MoreDakka> Yep. You can use Nagios commands and create those custom commands.
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:02] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: wow... i would think that most of your features have been implemented by now then :-D
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:03] <MoreDakka> Or python or whatever.
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:07] <TheFRC> [nod] i'm looking at replacing nagios with zenos
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:15] <TheFRC> s/zenos/zenoss/
[26-Mar-2008 16:46:40] <MoreDakka> Ha, I've got a box running 2.1.3 but it's an old Dell server that the raid controller is going...don't want an unstable box for the monitoring box.
[26-Mar-2008 16:47:12] <TheFRC> i'm an snmp ninja, and really want nrpe/check_by_ssh to die
[26-Mar-2008 16:47:14] <TheFRC> in a fire
[26-Mar-2008 16:48:36] <MoreDakka> We have a client that needs a piece of software monitored and I was hoping that the WMI in zenoss would work and alert when a service goes down....nope
[26-Mar-2008 16:48:51] <MoreDakka> WMI is still somewhat broken in zenoss in my opinion.
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:28] <TheFRC> you could write a custom check, and integrate it
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:31] <TheFRC> I just learned that
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:34] <TheFRC> 6 lines ago
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:35] <TheFRC>
[26-Mar-2008 16:49:36] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: ok, so youre obviously familiar with dell and perc raid...
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:01] <MoreDakka> Well I am now.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:11] <aedaemoen> can zenoss monitor perc raid using snmp?
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:13] <MoreDakka> Nothing like having the little orange light on the drives blinking.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:28] <MoreDakka> If you have Dell OMSA installed on the server.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:35] <aedaemoen> omsa?
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:40] <aedaemoen> openmanage
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:41] <aedaemoen> ewww
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:48] <MoreDakka> Yeah...that's really the only way though.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:52] <aedaemoen> yuck
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:54] <aedaemoen> lol
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:56] <MoreDakka> That I found.
[26-Mar-2008 16:50:59] <TheFRC> windows or *nix?
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:03] <MoreDakka> Both
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:06] * TheFRC assumes windows
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:24] <aedaemoen> every machine we buy from dell i wipe and reinstall just the os.
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:24] <MoreDakka> Dell has a nix install but it's pretty specific for it's distros
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:30] <TheFRC> well, in the *nix you can monitor them using snmp exec statements running scripts that check via the proc fs
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:37] <MoreDakka> true
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:51] <TheFRC> it's kind of the long way around, but it works
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:56] <aedaemoen> ....
[26-Mar-2008 16:51:59] <TheFRC> and it's fairly snappy. sub second.
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:07] <aedaemoen> ok, im familiar wth linux... but that one lost me
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:08] <aedaemoen> lol
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:38] <MoreDakka> stupid dell raid controllers.
[26-Mar-2008 16:52:54] <MoreDakka> Great, now that I said that I bet that server is going to crash again.
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:00] <TheFRC> haha
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:02] <MoreDakka> karma...sheesh
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:20] <TheFRC> so, with snmp you can run exec statements, which essentially maps an OID to a script
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:31] <TheFRC> and when you snmpget the OID, it runs the script, and returns the output
[26-Mar-2008 16:53:57] <MoreDakka> Uh you can do it that way or just input the OID into Zenoss and let zenoss do that for you.
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:10] <MoreDakka> But whatever floats your boat.
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:25] <TheFRC> you make that script hit the proc filesystem for whatever info you want. if /proc doesn't have the info you want, you can use hdparm, or [specific vendor script] or whatever
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:42] <TheFRC> well... the oid is just the way to get the info
[26-Mar-2008 16:54:50] <TheFRC> you still need to setup the oid to return the info you want
[26-Mar-2008 16:55:24] <TheFRC> zenoss polls the oid, the oid is setup to return the info, the exec statement attached to the oid gives you the output
[26-Mar-2008 16:55:41] <TheFRC> 3 steps to nirvana
[26-Mar-2008 16:55:49] * aedaemoen thinks hes going to be buying an snmp book realllllllllllll soon
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:03] <TheFRC> like I said, kinda convoluted, but once it works, it's what the kids refer to as "the dope ish"
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:44] <MoreDakka> Yeah, snmp is the shiznit.
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:44] <TheFRC> aedaemoen: http://www.dpstele.com/layers/l2/snmp_l2_tut_part1.php
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:50] <TheFRC> i started there
[26-Mar-2008 16:56:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: SNMP Tutorial Part 1: An Introduction to SNMP (at www.dpstele.com)
[26-Mar-2008 16:57:10] <TheFRC> after I got the basics down, I went down the road of encryption and snmp v3
[26-Mar-2008 16:57:40] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: yeah, i found that yesterday and printed it off :-D
[26-Mar-2008 16:58:38] <MoreDakka> Bah, hate going into client's production servers when they are running windows2k server.....hit the shutdown button to logoff...seriously, who thought of that smart move.
[26-Mar-2008 17:00:21] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: gates? :-D
[26-Mar-2008 17:00:42] <MoreDakka> Guess that's why he is worth soo much...coming up with the great ideas like that.
[26-Mar-2008 17:02:48] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: you mean stealing the creative thoughts of others, running to the patent office with his checkbook and M$ logo sticker, and screaming "ITS MINE!"
[26-Mar-2008 17:03:19] <MoreDakka> haha. Doesn't he have a hot daughter though?
[26-Mar-2008 17:04:01] * aedaemoen goes googling again
[26-Mar-2008 17:04:57] <aedaemoen> ummm.... sure.... if youre into 12 year olds i guess....
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:13] <MoreDakka> Oh...haha nvm then....
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:21] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:29] * aedaemoen pats google
[26-Mar-2008 17:05:36] <MoreDakka> Must have been a different picture that I saw.
[26-Mar-2008 17:06:11] <aedaemoen> lol, probably the same one i just found thats really one of my favorite actresses... rachel leigh cook
[26-Mar-2008 17:06:46] <aedaemoen> http://bp0.blogger.com/_h_J4rB7PN3w/R9J2l0O13mI/AAAAAAAAACA/XPF39K5g2N4/s1600-h/untitled1.bmp
[26-Mar-2008 17:06:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: untitled1.bmp (image) (at bp0.blogger.com)
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:12] * aedaemoen peers at the bot.
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:18] <aedaemoen> ok, whats the bots deal, lol
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:30] <aedaemoen> it investigate any and all hyperlinks?
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:34] <MoreDakka> Ah yes, that's the picture I saw.
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:39] <aedaemoen> yeah, thats rlc :-D
[26-Mar-2008 17:07:51] <MoreDakka> Was she playing Bill gate's daughter or something?
[26-Mar-2008 17:08:15] <aedaemoen> lol, nooooooooo clue. googling returns that its basically just another of the famous chain letter craps
[26-Mar-2008 17:08:27] <MoreDakka> Ah yep
[26-Mar-2008 17:09:36] <aedaemoen> time to go about playing with zenoss, wheee
[26-Mar-2008 17:15:41] <TheFRC> [nod]
[26-Mar-2008 17:15:50] <TheFRC> if you have questions about snmp, i'll be here
[26-Mar-2008 17:16:07] <TheFRC> i'm pretty decent with snmp, *nix, and regex, and scripting
[26-Mar-2008 17:16:16] <TheFRC> and beer. I'm really good with beer.
[26-Mar-2008 17:20:50] <Xander7> mmmm beer
[26-Mar-2008 17:42:31] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: love regex. love one liners... love having to edit makefiles and uncomment targets (ie: uninstall for nagios)... learning snmp now :-D
[26-Mar-2008 17:42:38] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 17:59:20] * aedaemoen finds it amusing that the el4 instructions specify to use yum to install specific packages.... even though EL4 doesnt use yum, its still up2date
[26-Mar-2008 18:00:55] <MoreDakka> I installed it on CentOS4 using yum
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:07] <aedaemoen> centos has always used yum
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:12] <MoreDakka> centos ftw
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:22] <aedaemoen> actual rhel used up2date until rhel5 when they replaced it with yum :-D
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:23] <TheFRC> hehe. i love one liners that wrap 4 times
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:34] <TheFRC> and now, staff meeting.
[26-Mar-2008 18:01:35] <TheFRC> peace.
[26-Mar-2008 18:02:08] <aedaemoen> now the part that concerns me... i have mysql server and such already running... how are the zen reqs rpms setup, any idea if they replace the current install or if they install side by side MoreDakka ?
[26-Mar-2008 18:02:48] <aedaemoen> really dont want to have to install these rpms and find out they hosed my current config from poor planning, lol
[26-Mar-2008 18:02:52] <MoreDakka> zenoss "shouldn't" install mysql, I'm pretty sure that needs to be done before hand so if you have it installed already then you're good to go.
[26-Mar-2008 18:03:12] <MoreDakka> It'll yell at you if the dependencies don't work.
[26-Mar-2008 18:03:40] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: its complaining on RHEL4 because el4 only comes with mysql4 not 5
[26-Mar-2008 18:04:53] * aedaemoen bashes his head against a wall
[26-Mar-2008 18:05:03] <Bulwinkle> gonna have to have mysql 5.0.22 I think as a minimum
[26-Mar-2008 18:05:49] <aedaemoen> Bulwinkle: yeap... and of course, the downloadable deps provided by sourceforge are i386... which granted, i *can* install on my machine... but alongside a 4.0 x86_64 im not sure how that would pan out...
[26-Mar-2008 18:05:54] * aedaemoen goes to get src rpms to build
[26-Mar-2008 18:06:45] <Bulwinkle> aedaemoen: you can probably find a rpm on mysql.com
[26-Mar-2008 18:51:42] <_LoneCrow> I was wondering... we have some linux routers, but limited space on the flash. Is it somehow possible to graph people inside the lan with Zenoss, to see if they are using p2p/http etc.. ? Sort of like how bandwidthd does it?
[26-Mar-2008 18:59:21] <TheFRC> installing mysql 5.0.45 on centos4/rhel4 is actually quite easy
[26-Mar-2008 18:59:44] <TheFRC> as long as you don't already have 5.0.xx installed
[26-Mar-2008 18:59:48] <TheFRC> where xx < 22
[26-Mar-2008 19:17:29] * aedaemoen ponders...
[26-Mar-2008 19:17:41] <aedaemoen> well, now ive got zenoss "installed" but its having eezues
[26-Mar-2008 19:29:22] <aedaemoen> ... i really hope the install isnt as poor as it seems to be at this point... the app looks to be great, but the install process of the latest rpm seems to be horrible
[26-Mar-2008 19:31:40] <aedaemoen> talk about a really really really big glitch...
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:36] <TheFRC> *shrug*
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:43] <TheFRC> installs are always painful
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:53] <TheFRC> hell, nagios install can be painful
[26-Mar-2008 19:35:59] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: it wouldnt be so bad if the documentation warned about a silent failure with the rpm.
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:24] <TheFRC> wha wha wha
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:26] <aedaemoen> the way the rpm is constructed, you have to 1st unset your mysql passwords for root, otherwise it will just run right straight over it, failng to create vital components, and youll never know
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:40] <TheFRC> that is, uhh...
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:43] <TheFRC> suboptimal
[26-Mar-2008 19:36:54] <aedaemoen> if you have a root password set, the rpm finishes installing fine, but you never know a single thing about why your service doesnt start up
[26-Mar-2008 19:37:01] <TheFRC> hrm.
[26-Mar-2008 19:37:11] <TheFRC> can you set it to something in particular?
[26-Mar-2008 19:37:46] <aedaemoen> not sure, im tempted to break apart the rpm and see what in the hell they did..., packaging it as a compiled rpm is fine... so long as you note that there are requirements to running it...
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:04] <aedaemoen> now comes the second part of the task... finding out what in the world the default password and login are
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:05] <TheFRC> documentation is for the weak
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:27] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: id partially agree if we were using src code to compile the packages and install
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:39] <aedaemoen> if you cant interpret make errors and lib incompats thats youre own problem
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:42] <TheFRC> can you d/l core source?
[26-Mar-2008 19:38:54] <TheFRC> i honestly hadn't checked
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:05] <aedaemoen> but when you are using an rpm you expect it to work if you follow the install instructions on the site :-D
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:13] <TheFRC> pfft
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:14] <aedaemoen> yeah... .tbz2 files
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:19] <TheFRC> you and your "expectations"
[26-Mar-2008 19:39:32] <TheFRC> and your desires for "documentation"
[26-Mar-2008 19:41:27] <aedaemoen> lol
[26-Mar-2008 19:41:38] * aedaemoen is a documentation freak
[26-Mar-2008 19:41:56] * locohost offers aedaemoen a job
[26-Mar-2008 19:42:16] * aedaemoen peers at locohost
[26-Mar-2008 19:44:42] <locohost> why would there be no disk info under the os tab of a new device at all, and the perf tab be blank?
[26-Mar-2008 19:44:59] <MoreDakka> snmp not connecting?
[26-Mar-2008 19:45:02] <locohost> if graphing is working
[26-Mar-2008 19:45:18] <MoreDakka> Have you tried to model the device?
[26-Mar-2008 19:46:56] <locohost> i though it did the model when i added it
[26-Mar-2008 19:47:48] <MoreDakka> I'm not sure about 2.1.3 but just remodel it and see if that pulls up any info (graphs will take at least 10 minutes to show up [2 polling cycles])
[26-Mar-2008 19:48:16] <locohost> i wonder if it has anything to do with me deleting the device group and creating my own hierarchy
[26-Mar-2008 19:48:45] <MoreDakka> Uhh....hmmm, deleted the device group....the device class or device group?
[26-Mar-2008 19:49:00] <MoreDakka> <- didn't know there was a device group
[26-Mar-2008 19:49:16] <locohost> "Organizers"
[26-Mar-2008 19:49:49] <locohost> yeah, classes
[26-Mar-2008 19:50:13] <MoreDakka> Hmm....never deleted that before so I'm not sure what that will do.
[26-Mar-2008 19:50:28] <MoreDakka> There are three other ways to organize it instead of through classes.
[26-Mar-2008 19:50:38] <MoreDakka> systems, locations, groups.
[26-Mar-2008 20:06:43] * aedaemoen cackles
[26-Mar-2008 20:07:39] <locohost> there is a united way poster in my breakroom with 4 little kids on it with the caption "Which one of these children should starve" lol, someone put a sticky note on it saying "This one" witih an arrow to one of them
[26-Mar-2008 20:07:57] <MoreDakka> haha
[26-Mar-2008 20:16:27] * aedaemoen goes about messing around wth zenoss now that its installed
[26-Mar-2008 20:17:06] <TheFRC> haha
[26-Mar-2008 20:17:29] <TheFRC> anyone know where there is some docs on feeding rrd files into zenoss
[26-Mar-2008 20:17:35] <TheFRC> i have a bunch of data I don't want to lose
[26-Mar-2008 20:27:17] * locohost does a clean kickstart of his dev zenoss box because its vexing him
[26-Mar-2008 20:33:17] <MoreDakka> MoreDakka wishes he knew how to turn his txt purple with a * beside it.
[26-Mar-2008 20:34:18] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: type /me actionitem
[26-Mar-2008 20:34:24] * MoreDakka OMG
[26-Mar-2008 20:34:26] <MoreDakka> hehe
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:03] * MoreDakka gets stressed cause his wife is pregnant with 2 weeks to go and my boss wants to send me out of town
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:14] <MoreDakka> Oo....send him out of town.
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:21] <aedaemoen> TheFRC: jeeze.... you and your expectations.... you expect documentation? documentation is for the weak!
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:30] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:40] <aedaemoen> takes getting used to doing emotes with the right grammar
[26-Mar-2008 20:35:56] * MoreDakka nods
[26-Mar-2008 20:36:03] <MoreDakka> yay, that one is correct
[26-Mar-2008 20:36:07] * MoreDakka jumps for joy
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:14] <TheFRC> yes. i expect perfection
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:25] <TheFRC> anything less is uncivilized.
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:30] <TheFRC> and now, midget duty.
[26-Mar-2008 20:40:32] <TheFRC> peace ya'll.
[26-Mar-2008 20:41:29] * MoreDakka waves
[26-Mar-2008 20:45:41] <aedaemoen> lata TheFRC
[26-Mar-2008 20:45:48] <aedaemoen> MoreDakka: having fun with emotes?
[26-Mar-2008 20:46:06] * MoreDakka Always has fun doing new stuff
[26-Mar-2008 20:46:26] * aedaemoen snickers
[26-Mar-2008 21:08:21] <_LoneCrow> heya moredakka long time no talk.. been no time to play with zenoss we moved to a new system, once that is up I will be focused on implementing zenoss though..
[26-Mar-2008 21:08:52] <_LoneCrow> I was wondering... we have some linux routers, but limited space on the flash. Is it somehow possible to graph people inside the lan with Zenoss, to see if they are using p2p/http etc.. ? Sort of like how bandwidthd does it?
[26-Mar-2008 21:11:39] <_LoneCrow> ahhh crap gotta run
[26-Mar-2008 21:13:08] <aedaemoen> wow.... what an efficient way of getting help... ask for help, run before answered...
[26-Mar-2008 21:13:12] * aedaemoen chuckles
[26-Mar-2008 22:26:37] <aedaemoen> hrum...
[26-Mar-2008 22:26:47] <aedaemoen> anyone know how to do autodiscover of devices in 2.1.3?
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[27-Mar-2008 00:43:32] <johns55> aedaemon: same way you do auto discovery in 2.1.0
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[27-Mar-2008 13:17:58] <_LoneCrow> I was wondering... we have some linux routers, but limited space on the flash. Is it somehow possible to graph people inside the lan with Zenoss, to see if they are using p2p/http etc.. ? Sort of like how bandwidthd does it?
[27-Mar-2008 13:29:20] <Funky_> anyone have a reason why I cannot connect to my zenoss dashboard anymore
[27-Mar-2008 13:29:39] <Funky_> all deamons are running... and it was working before I restarted
[27-Mar-2008 13:47:15] <Funky_> removed zeo1-1.zec and did a shutdown -r now and it works... strange
[27-Mar-2008 13:48:22] <TheFRC> negative captain
[27-Mar-2008 13:48:42] * TheFRC chimes in too late
[27-Mar-2008 13:50:31] <locohost> yeah, that seems to happen to everyone at least once
[27-Mar-2008 14:03:01] <nemo_> Funky_, i had to do that earlier
[27-Mar-2008 14:03:21] <nemo_> was expected trouble tho, i symlinked /opt/zenoss to /home/zenoss
[27-Mar-2008 14:03:47] <nemo_> Funky_, shutdown -r is a crime !
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:12] <Funky_>
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:31] * TheFRC uses init 6
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:34] <TheFRC>
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:46] <Funky_> it's a test virtual machine
[27-Mar-2008 14:04:48] <nemo_> why reboot a linux machine because of a service tho
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:03] <TheFRC> because you're used to windows boxes?
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:10] <nemo_> its like those posts in the forum, i rebooted and IT DOESNT WORK !
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:43] <Funky_> actually it was just a zenoss stop then start that stopped it from working
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:43] <nemo_> TheFRC, yes i know its because your used to windows, but its linux, it doesnt need rebooting every 2 minutes
[27-Mar-2008 14:05:49] <Funky_> the machine had an uptime of months
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:00] <TheFRC> no, but sometimes a service can wedge
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:13] <TheFRC> hangs on to a socket, and just plain never lets it go
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:23] <nemo_> thats what kill and lsof are for
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:24] <TheFRC> so you'll never be able to restart the server
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:33] <TheFRC> what if it's zombie?
[27-Mar-2008 14:06:45] <TheFRC> yes yes, you'll have to nice it, then kill it
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:01] <TheFRC> but then you're getting into about 5% of the people who can handle linux boxes
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:22] <nemo_> i guess we could discuss sysadminship all day but its the wrong channel, i will keep quiet ;p
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:55] <TheFRC> it's not like anyone else is trying to desperately get zenoss info
[27-Mar-2008 14:07:58] <TheFRC>
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:21] <nemo_> i noticed its fustrating, if its not a simple unix blunder its dead silence
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:42] <TheFRC> shhh...
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:44] <TheFRC>
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:47] <TheFRC> i'm here now
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:50] <TheFRC> and I never shut up
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:58] <nemo_> ok so tell me about transforms
[27-Mar-2008 14:08:59] <nemo_> ;p
[27-Mar-2008 14:09:25] <TheFRC> i know not of this transforms you speak of
[27-Mar-2008 14:09:36] <Funky_> I have some zenoss questions
[27-Mar-2008 14:09:43] <TheFRC> i haven't actually gotten my zenoss install up yet
[27-Mar-2008 14:10:00] <TheFRC> i'm stuck in cat | grep | sed | grep | sed | sort -u | wc hell
[27-Mar-2008 14:11:55] <Funky_> Whats the best way to let zenoss handle app boot times... if I am exposing attributes via jmx and during the app boot these are not availble... is there a solution to let zenoss know not to monitor during the boot sequence?
[27-Mar-2008 14:14:07] <nemo_> dependancy on ping ?
[27-Mar-2008 14:14:20] <nemo_> if it cant be pinged, dont check services
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:15] <Funky_> it can be pinged... but we run large j2ee web apps that take about a min to start
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:20] <Funky_> and we need to monitor those apps
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:38] <nemo_> ok , dependancy on processes running
[27-Mar-2008 14:16:56] <nemo_> i wouldnt worry bout it anyway, 1 min to start is nada
[27-Mar-2008 14:18:47] <Funky_>
[27-Mar-2008 14:21:43] <_LoneCrow> is it possible for zenoss to monitor and graph remote lan's and the types of traffic they are doing whether http, p2p etc ?
[27-Mar-2008 14:23:00] <nemo_> i dont know _LoneCrow
[27-Mar-2008 14:23:34] <nemo_> perhaps if you already have some kind of qos / rules on your routers, its possible to user there counters and graph it
[27-Mar-2008 14:23:47] <nemo_> but otherwise i cant think how it might be achieved
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:03] <TheFRC> snmp against specific oid's?
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:25] <nemo_> snmpwalk that sucker ;p
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:54] <nemo_> Device Name->OS Manufacturer
[27-Mar-2008 14:24:56] <TheFRC> snmpwalk to get the oid, then snmpget the specific oid for the actual check
[27-Mar-2008 14:25:07] <nemo_> doesnt matter how often i set that field, it gets lost again
[27-Mar-2008 14:25:24] <nemo_> bug? other ppl get that?
[27-Mar-2008 14:27:02] <_LoneCrow> routers are using iptables rules.. I think there are counters too
[27-Mar-2008 14:27:15] <_LoneCrow> but whether they are watching the p2p ports etc I don't know.
[27-Mar-2008 14:27:29] <_LoneCrow> I am still trying to figure out how to do something bandwidthd did without actually using bandwidthd
[27-Mar-2008 16:03:09] <Funky_> anyone have experience with zenjmx?
[27-Mar-2008 16:06:47] <TheFRC> nope, but I will soon.
[27-Mar-2008 16:08:38] <Funky_> hmm... for some reason if I connect with jconsole everything works fine
[27-Mar-2008 16:08:54] <Funky_> but if I use the same credentials with zenjmx I get authentication error
[27-Mar-2008 16:09:42] <Funky_> java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.lang.SecurityException: Authentication failed! Credentials required
[27-Mar-2008 16:10:16] <TheFRC> sounds like a problem with the chair to keyboard adapter
[27-Mar-2008 16:12:59] <Funky_> you mean to say I've miss typed monitorRole/monitorRole123 ?
[27-Mar-2008 16:13:09] <Funky_> in every zProperty area?
[27-Mar-2008 16:13:11] <Funky_> 5 times?
[27-Mar-2008 16:13:33] <Funky_> I've re-installed zenoss also...
[27-Mar-2008 16:14:45] <Funky_> and it works fine when I set up a jmx enabled app with no authenication..
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:04] <Funky_> but as soon as I enable authenication I get this problem and only with zenjmx
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:18] <Funky_> any other jmx clients can connect with the same credentials
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:30] <Funky_> bbkl
[27-Mar-2008 16:15:33] <Funky_> lunch
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[27-Mar-2008 16:45:59] <aedaemoen> hey guys... since i have no way of scrolling back, how do you autodiscover in 2.1.3? the documentation differs between .1 and .3 quite a bit from what im seeing
[27-Mar-2008 16:56:00] <Funky_> aedaemoen, click on networks
[27-Mar-2008 16:56:13] <Funky_> then put a check on the ip ranges you want to auto discover on
[27-Mar-2008 16:56:34] <Funky_> then click the arrow menu thing and choose Discover Devices
[27-Mar-2008 17:10:32] * aedaemoen laughs.
[27-Mar-2008 17:10:37] <aedaemoen> i didnt realize the arrow was a menu.....
[27-Mar-2008 17:10:53] <aedaemoen> i looked all over for that stupid thing, i thought the arrow was just an "order" sort arrow...
[27-Mar-2008 17:14:14] <aedaemoen> Funky_: what happens if you autodiscover on a network again after having done so once, will it cause issues or just add new devices as they are found? (a couple of our machines need to be configured for snmp still)
[27-Mar-2008 17:14:36] <Funky_> I am actually not sure, sorry
[27-Mar-2008 17:14:50] <aedaemoen> cool, at least you got me to that menu i kept looking for, lol
[27-Mar-2008 17:15:12] <aedaemoen> the arrow idea was bad (imo) anyway... most of the times things like that are used for sorting columns
[27-Mar-2008 17:16:37] <Funky_> i agree
[27-Mar-2008 17:17:17] <aedaemoen> i feel so stupid now, lol
[27-Mar-2008 17:17:37] <aedaemoen> i spent hours looking for the darned thing after reading the guide thinking i was just blind or stupid...
[27-Mar-2008 17:17:49] <Funky_> the docs aren't as good as they could be
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:06] <aedaemoen> Funky_: the latest doc is for 2.1.1 and it looks from the screenshots like the ui changed a bit
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:17] <Funky_> I'm actually in the process of evaluating zenoss...
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:17] <aedaemoen> and changes to the ui are things you never want to neglect to note
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:31] <Funky_> I'm somewhat dissapointed with certain aspects of the docs and forums
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:42] <aedaemoen> Funky_: yeap. did you use the source or rpm?
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:50] <Funky_> I've tried both
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:54] <aedaemoen> lol
[27-Mar-2008 17:18:58] <aedaemoen> how far did you get with the rpm?
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:05] <Funky_> worked fine
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:07] <aedaemoen> i used the rpm and found a major major glitch
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:13] <Funky_> which distro?
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:17] <aedaemoen> EL
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:20] <aedaemoen> 4 and 5
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:34] <aedaemoen> in the instructions it simply says install the rpm after installing the deps...
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:35] <Funky_> I've installed the rpm on EL4
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:46] <aedaemoen> ahh, you must not have configured your mysql prior to that
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:58] <aedaemoen> my mysql had already been implemented, so i had a root pw...
[27-Mar-2008 17:19:59] <Funky_> oh you mean with the root password?
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:02] <aedaemoen> yeap
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:05] <Funky_> yeah yeah
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:10] <aedaemoen> took me forever to discover that darned glitch
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:11] <Funky_> i had a fresh install
[27-Mar-2008 17:20:19] <Funky_> yeah the docs are not clear
[27-Mar-2008 17:21:06] <aedaemoen> seems like a pretty good solution, just really bad starting documentation
[27-Mar-2008 17:23:08] <Funky_> i agree, i like the way it allows you to customize everything
[27-Mar-2008 17:23:25] <Funky_> i guess they want you to purchase a support license or something
[27-Mar-2008 17:23:40] <Funky_> so they intentionally leave the docs as last priority
[27-Mar-2008 17:27:25] <johns55> Funky, there are plenty of howtos on the forums by members
[27-Mar-2008 17:27:53] <johns55> giving the instructions on their website, yes, it is not detailed, but this is open source software
[27-Mar-2008 17:28:11] <aedaemoen> johns55: thats not entirely true.
[27-Mar-2008 17:28:27] <johns55> majority of open source software is actively being developed and worked on, you cant expect production/retail support/docs
[27-Mar-2008 17:28:54] <aedaemoen> johns55: you have to realize that as soon as you start going into the "enterprise" edition, you no longer even deserve the title open source.
[27-Mar-2008 17:29:19] <johns55> aedaemoen: i understand but they have both version for you to choose, similar to mysql
[27-Mar-2008 17:29:54] <aedaemoen> as last i checked, according to the website, the enterprse edition has "enhancements" well if it has enhancesments, then thats not opensource :-D thats seperate source branches
[27-Mar-2008 17:29:57] * aedaemoen nods.
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:06] <Funky_> i agree totally
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:07] <aedaemoen> i know. its the same thing that sun is doing now.
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:24] <aedaemoen> the only company i know of that honestly does opensource at least 95% of their code is RH
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:28] <Funky_> I understand that open source software cannot by nature provide everything to everyone
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:39] <Funky_> This HAS to be a bug with ZenJMX
[27-Mar-2008 17:30:48] <Funky_> I do not understand this at all
[27-Mar-2008 17:31:10] <johns55> funky, just download the source tarball and compile manually
[27-Mar-2008 17:31:27] <Funky_> for the plugin?
[27-Mar-2008 17:31:37] <johns55> are you installing zenoss?
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:11] <Funky_> no
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:16] <Funky_> I don't have a problem with zenoss
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:22] <Funky_> it's the zenjmx plugin
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:34] <aedaemoen> i like zenoss so far, i just have a long way to go before im knowledgable on how this stuff works
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:37] <johns55> o ok
[27-Mar-2008 17:32:54] <Funky_> for some reason the credentials never seem to be correct no matter how/where I enter them
[27-Mar-2008 17:33:04] <Funky_> even though I know that they are correct
[27-Mar-2008 17:33:17] <johns55> ok did you install through the zenoss gui?
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:19] <Funky_> i used the zenpack command line tool
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:45] <johns55> try installing through the gui, ive had more success installing zenpacks through there
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:51] <Funky_> hmm
[27-Mar-2008 17:35:59] <Funky_> I could try
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:14] <Funky_> but it seems to work perfectly if I disable authentication for my JMX app
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:21] <Funky_> thats whats so confusing
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:24] <johns55> im running fc8 and have installed el4 zenpacks w/o a hitch
[27-Mar-2008 17:36:41] <Funky_> i can get my data no problem
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:00] <Funky_> as soon as I eneble authentication... doesn't work
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:28] <johns55> where r u entering the credentials
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:49] <Funky_> I've tried it in the Device zProperties
[27-Mar-2008 17:37:58] <Funky_> directly in the template...
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:10] <Funky_> every different combination
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:22] <johns55> ok it should be located in the template
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:28] <Funky_> and this is my 3rd zenoss install with this same problem
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:41] <johns55> however, have you copied your template to local?
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:42] <Funky_> first with the vmware... second on a EL4
[27-Mar-2008 17:38:49] <Funky_> yes I have
[27-Mar-2008 17:39:17] <johns55> have you also tried checking in your custom properties to see if there is a place to enter credentials there?
[27-Mar-2008 17:39:37] <Funky_> you mean the zProperties of the device itself?
[27-Mar-2008 17:39:54] <johns55> no, under more > custom
[27-Mar-2008 17:40:00] <johns55> of the device
[27-Mar-2008 17:40:55] <Funky_> the only value I can change in there is cDateTest
[27-Mar-2008 17:43:08] <johns55> hrm no idea from me then
[27-Mar-2008 17:43:11] <johns55> it should be in your template
[27-Mar-2008 17:43:56] <Funky_> It's very strange...
[27-Mar-2008 17:44:26] <Funky_> johns55, which version of zenoss are you running?
[27-Mar-2008 17:46:44] <johns55> 2.1.2
[27-Mar-2008 17:49:24] <Funky_> and you do connect to authenticated jmx servers?
[27-Mar-2008 18:22:55] <jp10558> Anyone actually get the MySQLMonitor zenpack to work?
[27-Mar-2008 21:19:56] <noos> i'm having a small problem with zenoss. when i run the modeler it correctly stores the OS Make and version numbers. but when i goto the 'edit' tab for that device and hit save that info is reset to ''. is there a way to have the modeler auto add new os/versions to its db ?
[27-Mar-2008 21:24:08] <`m3> nice idea, sorry no apparent solution tho
[27-Mar-2008 21:25:02] <noos> alright. i can live with that. especially for kernel versions it's a nice feature
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:04] <`m3> noos, OS Version
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:04] <`m3> Linux 2.4.21-53.ELsmp
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:16] <`m3> kernel seems to have auto added its self.
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:29] <noos> oh it did ?
[27-Mar-2008 21:31:29] <noos> hm
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:00] <`m3> i changed my snmp view in the snmpd.conf
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:05] <`m3> .1
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:27] <noos> well the modeler comes up with Unknown / Linux 2.6.18-53.el5
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:36] <`m3> and it found a crap load of stuff, installed rpms and such , not all of went in
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:40] <noos> but on the edit page there is no OS Product with that value. so the listbox is empty
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:52] <`m3> that would be right then ..
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> OS Make
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> Unknown
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> OS Version
[27-Mar-2008 21:32:53] <`m3> Linux 2.4.21-53.ELsmp
[27-Mar-2008 21:33:01] <noos> so when you hit save on the edit page it's reset
[27-Mar-2008 21:33:13] <`m3> ah yes, i thought i had noticed that
[27-Mar-2008 21:33:28] <`m3> even when i added a group it didnt seem to stick the first time
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[28-Mar-2008 08:17:33] <nemo_> morning
[28-Mar-2008 14:01:48] <jp10558> Anyone actually get the MySQLMonitor zenpack to work?
[28-Mar-2008 14:17:44] <nemo_> i see zenoss monitoring mysql
[28-Mar-2008 14:17:46] <nemo_> so i guess so
[28-Mar-2008 15:25:16] <Funky-> Anyone ever get ZenJMX with authentication to work?
[28-Mar-2008 15:41:03] <nemo_> set the user / pass in zproperties ?
[28-Mar-2008 15:42:41] <Funky-> nemo_, I've tried many many times...
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:05] <Funky-> no matter where I enter the information I always get a credentials required message in the zenjmx log
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:22] <Funky-> I am able to connect with other jmx clients perfectly
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:37] <nemo_> i havnt even tried yet Funky- , not got that far ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:43] <Funky->
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:46] <Funky-> it seems no has
[28-Mar-2008 15:43:53] <Funky-> no one rather
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:05] <nemo_> same as transformations ! but eventually the others will catch up ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:11] <Funky-> I feels like this is a bug
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:19] <Funky-> it
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:46] <nemo_> i think other ppl must be doing ok with it, checked /opt/zenoss/log/?
[28-Mar-2008 15:44:52] <Funky-> I can use zenjmx to connect if I disable authenication on my app server
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:25] <Funky-> i've checked every log
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:45] <Funky-> whats funny is that if I leave authentiction set to TRUE in the zproperties
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:53] <Funky-> and disable it on my app server
[28-Mar-2008 15:45:55] <Funky-> it works!
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:17] <nemo_> funky indeed ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:19] <Funky-> it seems like zenoss totally ignores the switch to set authentication to true
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:42] <nemo_> well i start official zenoss training monday
[28-Mar-2008 15:46:58] <nemo_> so i get to ask the zenoss guys all my remaining questions!
[28-Mar-2008 15:47:25] <Funky-> sounds like fun
[28-Mar-2008 15:47:47] <Funky-> I just wish this worked and i could recomend zenoss to my company (large company)
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:06] <nemo_> was easier for me, i jsut got told to use it \
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:09] <nemo_> large co also
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:27] <Funky-> are you running 2.1.3?
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:31] <nemo_> yes
[28-Mar-2008 15:48:57] <Funky-> and if you go to your jmx template and set authentication to the opposite of what it was and press save... does the change stick?
[28-Mar-2008 15:49:07] <Funky-> or does it go back to it's original value?
[28-Mar-2008 15:49:11] <nemo_> let me check for you
[28-Mar-2008 15:49:14] <Funky-> thanks
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:11] <nemo_> which one
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:14] <Funky-> it's in the jmx data source
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:28] <Funky-> Remote Authentication Information
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:29] <Funky-> Enabled
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:40] <nemo_> i see 4 things under jmx
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:50] <nemo_> Heap Memory, None Heap Memory, etc etc
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:51] <Funky-> heap memory etc?
[28-Mar-2008 15:50:55] <Funky-> click on the first one
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:08] <Funky-> then in there you should see the drop down to enable/disable authentication
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:09] <nemo_> False=default
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:18] <Funky-> try setting it to true
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:22] <Funky-> and saving
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:29] <nemo_> yep seems to stick ok
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:34] <Funky-> now set it back?
[28-Mar-2008 15:51:58] <nemo_> yup stuck again
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:03] <Funky-> .......
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:13] <nemo_> I know , sorry bout that
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:23] <nemo_> would be easier if it flaked on me too ;p
[28-Mar-2008 15:52:40] <Funky-> I don't understand... it did it for me in 3 different installations
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:00] <nemo_> i never touched it, was there in zenpack
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:13] <nemo_> what version of the zenpack did you install ?
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:26] <Funky-> I just installed the zenjmx plugin directly
[28-Mar-2008 15:53:51] <nemo_> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.3-0.el4.x86_64.rpm
[28-Mar-2008 15:54:09] <nemo_> matched to my zenoss version, might be important ...
[28-Mar-2008 15:54:35] <Funky-> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenjmxcollector
[28-Mar-2008 15:54:52] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - ZenJMXCollector - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[28-Mar-2008 15:55:45] * nemo_ hits __adytum-bot__ with a spanner
[28-Mar-2008 15:56:03] <Funky-> Is there a way to easily un-install a zenpack?
[28-Mar-2008 15:56:32] <Funky-> I want to get rid of my current zenjmx pack and install the core zen packs
[28-Mar-2008 15:57:37] <Funky-> i might just re-isntall the whole friggin thing again
[28-Mar-2008 15:58:16] <nemo_> --remove=REMOVEPACKNAME
[28-Mar-2008 15:58:24] <nemo_> so .. zenpack --remove=REMOVEPACKNAME
[28-Mar-2008 15:59:45] <Funky-> ah
[28-Mar-2008 15:59:56] <Funky-> thanks I'll brb
[28-Mar-2008 16:01:07] <jp10558> I have this thread going re the MySQL monitor, and I haven't heard anything - http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=17792 do you all think I should just uninstall that Zenpack and re-install?
[28-Mar-2008 16:01:22] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - MySql Zenpack Code: 1 - Msg: General error (at community.zenoss.com)
[28-Mar-2008 16:02:12] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: let me look and see what I can do....
[28-Mar-2008 16:43:02] <jp10558> Thanks for any help Bulwinkle ...
[28-Mar-2008 17:27:01] <Funky-> nemo_, I just re-isntalled everything from scratch and use the core pack... same problem
[28-Mar-2008 17:34:53] <an0therb0x> help on this error SLES 10 sp1
[28-Mar-2008 17:34:53] <an0therb0x> /usr/bin/python2.4: can't open file '/opt/zenoss/bin/mkzopeinstance.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[28-Mar-2008 17:34:53] <an0therb0x> Unable to create zope instance.
[28-Mar-2008 17:49:14] <nemo_> Funky-, no idea then , sorry !
[28-Mar-2008 17:52:34] <Funky-> my drop down boxes actually stick now though :/
[28-Mar-2008 18:21:36] <nemo_> i have weirdness with this too Funky- , could be the browser
[28-Mar-2008 18:22:30] <Funky-> hmm
[28-Mar-2008 18:26:08] <nemo_> ok beer o clock, nice weekend guy and girls ( hopefully ! )
[28-Mar-2008 18:53:49] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: yeah, I'm not sure exactly how to get that plugin to work.... I can't select any of the monitor points...
[28-Mar-2008 18:55:05] <jp10558> Hmmm
[28-Mar-2008 18:55:16] <jp10558> so it did't work for you either?
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[28-Mar-2008 20:55:21] <aedaemoen> Funky-: how you doing today?
[28-Mar-2008 21:47:40] <Funky-> aedaemoen, well thank you
[28-Mar-2008 22:10:37] <aedaemoen> Funky-: well, i finally got *some* stuff setup, but im still drudging through this whole thing very very slowly, lol
[28-Mar-2008 22:11:19] <aedaemoen> Funky-: happen to be monitoring any linux servers in your environment? if so id love to snag your attention a little bit, as im still a complete novice to the whole monitoring/snmp stuff :-D
[28-Mar-2008 22:14:28] <Funky-> It's pretty simple actually
[28-Mar-2008 22:14:41] <Funky-> if you have any questions I can try to answer them
[28-Mar-2008 22:16:03] <aedaemoen> Funky-: right now, i can see multiple of my machines and such, but no clue how to setup monitoring of actual services and such now
[28-Mar-2008 22:16:17] <aedaemoen> like in our environment, ssh is a crucial component and must be running and working at all times...
[28-Mar-2008 22:16:40] <aedaemoen> yet when i follow through the filesystem link and such it doesnt show any services or anything else... is that because i have to set that stuff up through snmpd.conf or ?
[28-Mar-2008 22:20:50] <Funky-> good question, I might be at the same level as you actually
[28-Mar-2008 22:30:28] <aedaemoen> Funky-: ahh
[28-Mar-2008 22:33:24] <aedaemoen> you find out how to remodel the information based on changes to your snmpd.conf for instance?
[28-Mar-2008 22:42:41] <aedaemoen> ls
[28-Mar-2008 22:42:44] <aedaemoen> oops
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[29-Mar-2008 00:08:02] <aedaemoen> ok, just downloaded the PE2950 zenpack... curious how to make several of my machines use it, since we use almost completely PE2950s
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[30-Mar-2008 07:38:45] <blorbi> hi there
[30-Mar-2008 07:39:14] <blorbi> anyone free for a quicky?
[30-Mar-2008 07:39:34] <blorbi> i'm thinking for using the default snmp of windows
[30-Mar-2008 07:39:49] <blorbi> is it ok or should i use the net-snmp?
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[31-Mar-2008 15:49:30] <blorb> any zen masters here?
[31-Mar-2008 15:56:09] <Bulwinkle> blorb: shoot?
[31-Mar-2008 16:25:23] <blorb> any good links for sms alerting?
[31-Mar-2008 16:54:06] <Funky_> I'm getting an xmlrpc error: failed to post results to server in a daemon log file... anyone ever see this before?
[31-Mar-2008 17:09:39] <aedaemoe2> Funky_: how much luck you having these days?
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[31-Mar-2008 17:33:16] <Funky_> aedaemoen, not much
[31-Mar-2008 17:33:29] <Funky_> for some reason I get one problem after another
[31-Mar-2008 17:35:44] <aedaemoen> Funky_: join the club
[31-Mar-2008 17:36:08] <aedaemoen> i get to try to figure out how to get openmanage and net-snmp setup correctly so i can use a zenpack i found on the page correctly... not having much luck
[31-Mar-2008 17:36:11] <aedaemoen> god i hate snmp right now
[31-Mar-2008 17:36:21] <aedaemoen> (give me a few weeks, ill probably know more than i care to, lol )
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:12] <Funky_> I hate JMX right now
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:55] <aedaemoen> if i find it is needed for us, ill probably join your list of haters :-d
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:55] <aedaemoen> lol
[31-Mar-2008 17:38:57] <aedaemoen> brb
[31-Mar-2008 17:47:38] <Funky_> aedaemoen, well if you use java as a primary lang, you might run into it sooner or later
[31-Mar-2008 18:53:03] <Funky_> anyone know how to handle datasources that return doubles?
[31-Mar-2008 20:06:03] <Funky_> I've come to a conclusion... ZenJMX is one of the most buggy pieces of software ever made
[31-Mar-2008 20:35:31] <idea4gud> is it the reason that since 2 systems are on diff work group we cant do snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:35:49] <aedaemoe1> idea4gud: workgroup has nothing to do wth snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:35:49] <idea4gud> i tried but it says no resp time out
[31-Mar-2008 20:36:04] <aedaemoe1> workgroup and network are not the same, are they on the same subnets?
[31-Mar-2008 20:36:09] <idea4gud> i tried doin ping also it takes forever
[31-Mar-2008 20:36:18] <aedaemoe1> are they on the same subnets.
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[31-Mar-2008 20:37:37] * aedaemoen sighs.
[31-Mar-2008 20:38:07] * aedaemoen really hates trying to help people who dont even bother responding to simple inquiries for further information.
[31-Mar-2008 20:44:55] <idea4gud> aedaomeon:
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:05] <idea4gud> sorry was tryin to figure out the subnet
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:15] <idea4gud> new to linux
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:24] <idea4gud> they are iff
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:28] <idea4gud> different
[31-Mar-2008 20:45:42] <aedaemoen> ok... then are you using a gateway to reach each of them?
[31-Mar-2008 20:46:13] <idea4gud> yes
[31-Mar-2008 20:46:27] <aedaemoen> and the gateway is on both subnets?
[31-Mar-2008 20:48:16] <aedaemoen> the issue you are having is not related to a.) zenoss, or b.)snmpwalk btw. its related directly to your network configuration and lack of network communication between the devices. if the machines are on seperate subnets, then the only way they can communicate is through a gateway that knows of both subnets existence
[31-Mar-2008 20:48:31] <idea4gud> k
[31-Mar-2008 20:48:47] <idea4gud> my windwos box specifically tells me wat is gateway
[31-Mar-2008 20:49:04] <idea4gud> but i do i knw wats the gateway on my centos
[31-Mar-2008 20:49:51] <idea4gud> ok what about this if there is firewall on my subnet which my zenoss server belongs cant i do snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:50:12] <idea4gud> on to the other machines that belong to diff subnet
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:43] <aedaemoen> ... idea4gud is this a home or a corporate network?
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:52] <idea4gud> actually its my lab network
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:55] <aedaemoen> ie: are you doing this professionally, or for personal learning
[31-Mar-2008 20:51:55] <idea4gud> i am student
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:06] <aedaemoen> iow: youre doing this to learn.
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:07] <idea4gud> doin as part time job
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:23] <idea4gud> i am doin for school network
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:28] <aedaemoen> ok...
[31-Mar-2008 20:52:53] <aedaemoen> you said its multi subnetted. you know how subnetting works?
[31-Mar-2008 20:53:14] <idea4gud> not exactly
[31-Mar-2008 20:53:29] <aedaemoen> oi..
[31-Mar-2008 20:53:30] <aedaemoen> lol
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:00] <idea4gud>
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:11] <aedaemoen> idea4gud: dont feel too bad, everyone has to learn
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:19] <idea4gud> so i think since firwall is there i cant do snmpwalk
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:21] <idea4gud> yeah
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:23] <aedaemoen> its just not a good idea to jump in the deep end if you dont at least have a life raft
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:40] <aedaemoen> and right now youre in a networking environment where youre trying to setup things without understanding the basics of how they work
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:48] <idea4gud> yeah
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:50] <aedaemoen> what machines do you have right now
[31-Mar-2008 20:54:58] <aedaemoen> you said a windows box, a firewall, a cent os box
[31-Mar-2008 20:55:10] <idea4gud> i am following the guide of centos
[31-Mar-2008 20:55:13] <aedaemoen> either way, im taking this off the zenoss channel as it would be majorly distracting for others
[31-Mar-2008 20:55:21] <idea4gud> k
[31-Mar-2008 20:57:42] <locohost> you need to open tcp port 161
[31-Mar-2008 20:59:32] <aedaemoen> locohost: does zenoss ignore subnetting and multi subnets?
[31-Mar-2008 21:00:26] <aedaemoen> right now, he has issues with his subnet that are affecting network traffic period
[31-Mar-2008 21:00:49] <locohost> hmm, not sure what exactly you mean
[31-Mar-2008 21:01:24] <aedaemoen> locohost: he cant even reach the machine correctly. before he can bother correcting snmpwalk issues, he has to correct network issues
[31-Mar-2008 21:03:48] <locohost> ahh, yeah, he needs to have routes to all his networks
[31-Mar-2008 21:03:58] <locohost> or use a proxy or something
[31-Mar-2008 21:04:09] <locohost> its pretty easy to configure an snmpd proxy if you need to
[31-Mar-2008 23:22:48] <Ozux> hi, Is there any way to import data from MRTG to ZenOSS?
[31-Mar-2008 23:25:34] <Bulwinkle> Ozux: you probably can if the ZenOSS and MRTG RRD configurations are the exact same. But I don't recommend it
[31-Mar-2008 23:30:02] <Ozux> Bulwinkle, could U express it? (I'm newbie in ZenOSS) we are using multiple Cacti and MRTG in our network and now we want to migrate to ZenOSS for Centralizing and better Monitoring
[31-Mar-2008 23:31:06] <damon> hey all - QQ, i am working on creating an asset report and was looking for a full list of tales device attributes. The one in the admin-guide doesn't seem to be a complete list...
[31-Mar-2008 23:31:21] <cheflog> There is a Cacti plug-in for Zenoss
[31-Mar-2008 23:32:48] <cheflog> Ozux: I'm not a pro with Zenoss, but I actually like Cacti's graphing abilities better
[31-Mar-2008 23:35:54] <damon> The attribute i am trying to find the TAG attribute which is where currently we have our device part numbers. Maybe there is a different/better way to place p/ns?
[31-Mar-2008 23:36:38] <Ozux> I'm wondering is it any way to graph bandwidth usage of each Vhost in apache with Cacti or ZenOSS?
[31-Mar-2008 23:37:31] <damon> Ozux - you may be able to get what you are looking for by creating a sub itnerface on the box
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