[01-Dec-2008 00:05:26] **arfal> hey, same problem as me
[01-Dec-2008 00:06:05] **arfal> I tried to monitor linux server
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:20] **xpot> I have installed rrdtool to no avail... still missing rrd file.
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:36] **arfal> yep, really same
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:49] **xpot> is there no one here who can help us troublshoot?
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:56] **arfal> dunno
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:07] **arfal> I think everybody is sleeping
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:27] **arfal> in my event tab, all oid is bad
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:36] **xpot> hehe, I will just keep searching the net and trying some options then untill someonce wakes up here
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:46] **xpot> checking mine...
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:49] **MajereDB8> arfal: do you have an snmp daemon properly configured
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:57] **arfal> yes I have
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:06] **MajereDB8> and you're sure that it's pointing to the proper oids?
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:10] **arfal> net-snmp has installed on my linux server
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:27] **arfal> I tried snmpwalk and it's success too
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:30] **xpot> hmmm... I have nothing in events tab
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:51] **arfal> how can I checked it?
[01-Dec-2008 00:11:38] **MajereDB8> try setting up an snmp trap and generating an alarm. that's the easiest way to rule out that snmp is broken
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:08] **MajereDB8> or for example that the port is firewalled
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:24] **arfal> can u show me how to do it? sorry, a little newbie here
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:52] **MajereDB8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch11s15.html
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:57] **arfal> I've turn off all firewall on my linux server
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:59] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 00:13:30] **MajereDB8> the admin guide is helpful, but if you don't know much about snmp, it can seem totally foreign.
[01-Dec-2008 00:13:44] **arfal> ok, I'll try it
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:23] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:23] **MajereDB8> have you been able to model the device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:40] **raddy> Who are having rrd related issues
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:49] **arfal> model the device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:58] **arfal> u mean add the device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:15:33] **raddy> You have to configure your remote device's snmpd to allow the Zenoss to correct obtain the data
[01-Dec-2008 00:16:17] **MajereDB8> well, after you add the device, you can tell zenoss to "model" the device, which means that it will probe your server for known services. since it's a linux system, zenoss has templates for several common services. like raddy says, you need to make sure you have the snmpd information set up properly
[01-Dec-2008 00:17:04] **arfal> its that all configured on my linux server snmpd.conf or snmpd.conf on my zenoss server?
[01-Dec-2008 00:17:44] **MajereDB8> it's on both. you set the server's community strings and snmp versions on the linux server, and then you configure zenoss with those same settings
[01-Dec-2008 00:18:26] **raddy> arfal : also make sure whether Zenoss has access to remote device's snmpd's port
[01-Dec-2008 00:18:38] **raddy> arfal : It should be opened
[01-Dec-2008 00:19:08] **arfal> ooh ok, so I have to make sure that zenoss can access my linux server snmp port
[01-Dec-2008 00:19:22] **raddy> arfal : yup
[01-Dec-2008 00:20:50] **xpot> raddy: I am
[01-Dec-2008 00:20:53] **raddy> arfal : udp 161 and udp 162
[01-Dec-2008 00:21:13] **raddy> xpot : please rephrase your issue
[01-Dec-2008 00:22:18] **xpot> raddy: I get "MISSING RRD FILE"
[01-Dec-2008 00:22:35] **raddy> MajereDB8 : Zenoss is still not that eagle-eyed yet to find a process UP state in remote device
[01-Dec-2008 00:22:54] **xpot> snmpd is setup and model device detects my location and admin information.
[01-Dec-2008 00:23:32] **raddy> xpot : snmpd is might not yet been setup correctly in remote device
[01-Dec-2008 00:23:59] **xpot> raddy: I am starting with the same device that zenoss is installed on
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:10] **raddy> xpot : you have to configure your remote device snmpd to collect lot of informations
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:37] **raddy> xpot : so Zenoss is monitoring it's own device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:41] **MajereDB8> raddy: yeah, such is the nature of snmp. although, i've had some pretty good success with the modeler in finding various services on non-x86, linux-based routers
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:42] **xpot> raddy: I see, I used the default snmpd.conf and just updated the community and admin stuff
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:56] **xpot> raddy: yes to monitorin own device
[01-Dec-2008 00:25:47] **raddy> MajereDB8 : one reason for the issue in my end is i have stopped the modeler daemon
[01-Dec-2008 00:26:00] **MajereDB8> raddy: yup, that will do it
[01-Dec-2008 00:26:16] **MajereDB8> xpot: do you get the rrd file issue on every graph, or only on certain ones?
[01-Dec-2008 00:26:28] **raddy> MajereDB8 : you mean? should it be always running?
[01-Dec-2008 00:27:24] **xpot> raddy: currently have no graphs, the only one attempting to show a graph give the missing rrd file and that is the "Load Average" oh and Ping RoundTrip
[01-Dec-2008 00:27:48] **MajereDB8> raddy: oh, i thought you meant that you had it disabled. as far as i know, it should just be out there and only run when it needs to
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:05] **raddy> xpot : it was MajereDB8 who asked the last question
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:16] **xpot> oh
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:32] **MajereDB8> xpot: you may want to try to add a different template and see if the graphs from that work
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:59] **MajereDB8> i've had issues on different servers and devices where certain oids are accessible, but others are not
[01-Dec-2008 00:29:14] **xpot> Majere: I do have an asterisk ZenPack Template that shows nothing as well, I will try a default template and see what I get
[01-Dec-2008 00:31:33] **MajereDB8> i'm not an expert by any means, but just as a matter of trouble shooting, one possibility is that your zenpack is pointing towards a bad oid, so it's not able to generate the rrd file. so trying one of the default templates is a way to eliminate that possibility
[01-Dec-2008 00:33:20] **xpot> Majere: I removed all bindings to zenpack items, and now only Device(defaults) is binding. I show "Load Average" --> MISSING RRD FILE, "CPU Util" --> Nothing?, "Memory" --> Nothing?, "IO" --> Nothing?
[01-Dec-2008 00:34:06] **xpot> Note: running 2.3
[01-Dec-2008 00:34:28] **MajereDB8> it can take a little while for the graphs to populate
[01-Dec-2008 00:34:46] **xpot> ok, is there cache I need to clear or anything?
[01-Dec-2008 00:35:33] **MajereDB8> it should automatically generate the graphs, but it takes a few minutes to collect the data
[01-Dec-2008 00:38:12] **xpot> ok
[01-Dec-2008 00:41:15] **MajereDB8> fyi - it looks like the asterisk zenpack is broken at the moment - http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7327&highlight=asterisk
[01-Dec-2008 00:41:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problem adding datasource (at forums.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 00:45:11] **xpot> Majere: thank you, I will remove that
[01-Dec-2008 01:04:30] **xpot> is there a good tutorial for setting up snmpd for use with zenoss? I can't find anything in the Admin guide. Here is my snmpd.conf if anyone wants to take a look: http://pastebin.ca/1272134
[01-Dec-2008 01:04:40] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - xpot - post number 1272134 (at pastebin.ca)
[01-Dec-2008 01:06:16] **MajereDB8> xpot: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[01-Dec-2008 01:06:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 01:07:05] **xpot> Majere: thank you
[01-Dec-2008 01:07:21] **xpot> I guess I should have looked there, sorry
[01-Dec-2008 01:07:24] **MajereDB8> sure thing
[01-Dec-2008 01:10:56] **MajereDB8> fyi - you should uncomment the readonly and readwrite lines under com2sec
[01-Dec-2008 01:11:30] **xpot> ok
[01-Dec-2008 01:12:29] **MajereDB8> your snmpd configuration file doesn't properly set up a security name for the public and private community strings, which is probably causing problems. try uncommenting those two lines and restarting snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 01:13:09] **xpot> even if I don't want to use those communities? I am using monitor as the community in zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 01:13:31] **krphop> yeah, might want to use something other than a default community
[01-Dec-2008 01:13:59] **xpot> ok, I will do that
[01-Dec-2008 01:14:10] **krphop> something thats probably not in a dictionary
[01-Dec-2008 01:14:23] **xpot> i see
[01-Dec-2008 01:15:11] **MajereDB8> yeah, from a security standpoint, krphop is right. i usually test using public and private in a controlled environment because a lot of stuff out of the box will default to that
[01-Dec-2008 01:15:34] **krphop> ah, we were testing, sorry, that was probably above and beyond the scope of the support
[01-Dec-2008 01:15:34] **krphop> lol
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:19] **arfal> MajereDB8: I've open the snmp port (udp 161 & 162), but still I've missing rrd file
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:43] **krphop> did a quick install of the latest ver of zenoss the other night on a new test box, and all the load averages of linux hosts were jacked up, it was only showing load 5
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:48] **krphop> load 1 and load 15 were at .01
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:58] **MajereDB8> arfal: are you able to get zenoss to model your server?
[01-Dec-2008 01:19:17] **arfal> sorry, where can I see that I can model my server?
[01-Dec-2008 01:20:21] **MajereDB8> have you added the device into the zenoss web interface yet?
[01-Dec-2008 01:20:59] **arfal> yes I have
[01-Dec-2008 01:21:26] **arfal> The device appear on my device list and it has 9 blue dots
[01-Dec-2008 01:21:57] **MajereDB8> did you manually add the stuff listed in the blue dots
[01-Dec-2008 01:22:00] **arfal> in the events tab there's an error says: Error reading value for "memBuffer" on FREQUENTLINE SRV-1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[01-Dec-2008 01:22:25] **MajereDB8> or did all of that show up after you added the device
[01-Dec-2008 01:22:52] **MajereDB8> basically, you need to go into the device, edit it, and list the proper snmp port and community string
[01-Dec-2008 01:23:27] **arfal> nah, thats it, all of the blue dots has occure a minutes after I add devices
[01-Dec-2008 01:23:47] **MajereDB8> then click the little down arrow and find the model command. i don't remember exactly where that is, since i haven't logged into my zenoss box in a while
[01-Dec-2008 01:24:56] **arfal> now I'm at the edit tab, but I can't see model command
[01-Dec-2008 01:26:05] **xpot> arfal: click down arrow at left next to status tab, then click Manage, then Model Device
[01-Dec-2008 01:26:15] **arfal> oh, ok
[01-Dec-2008 01:27:26] **arfal> do you mean event manager?
[01-Dec-2008 01:27:31] **MajereDB8> no.
[01-Dec-2008 01:28:02] **MajereDB8> do it form within the status page of your device.
[01-Dec-2008 01:28:03] **arfal> ah yes, manage
[01-Dec-2008 01:29:52] **arfal> ok, I've model device but still no luck
[01-Dec-2008 01:30:00] **arfal> 9 blue dots still came up
[01-Dec-2008 01:31:26] **arfal> all has bad oid
[01-Dec-2008 01:31:47] **MajereDB8> i've got nothing. unfortunately it's bed time for me. hopefully somebody else can take a crack at it for you
[01-Dec-2008 01:31:59] **arfal> ok, thank anyway
[01-Dec-2008 01:34:38] **xpot> FYI: I found that I have alot of OID is BAD
[01-Dec-2008 01:36:09] **arfal> yeah, me neither, hope there's anybody to help us
[01-Dec-2008 02:02:01] **xpot> arfal: is this what you get? http://screencast.com/t/Ge3cSjQ20B
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:27] **arfal> exactly
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:35] **arfal> but not much as yours
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:45] **xpot> ok
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:47] **arfal> I've got 9 bad oid
[01-Dec-2008 02:04:03] **xpot> hrm
[01-Dec-2008 02:04:25] **xpot> I can't find much in the forums relating this issue
[01-Dec-2008 02:13:52] **arfal> many of them have problem oid on windows server
[01-Dec-2008 02:20:22] **xpot> arfal: I finally got some graphs, I still have bad oid but a few graphs are showing up
[01-Dec-2008 02:20:25] **xpot> checkout http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/docs/man/snmpd.examples.html
[01-Dec-2008 02:20:32] **adytum-bot> Title: Net-SNMP (at net-snmp.sourceforge.net)
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:36] **xpot> I added these: includeAllDisks
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:36] **xpot> dontPrintUnits true
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:36] **xpot> proc httpd
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:52] **arfal> wow, thats great, I'll look at it
[01-Dec-2008 02:24:13] **arfal> that 3 line you add at ur snmpd.conf?
[01-Dec-2008 02:30:18] **xpot> yes
[01-Dec-2008 02:31:02] **arfal> snmpd.conf on remote server or on zenoss server?
[01-Dec-2008 02:33:58] **xpot> on remote
[01-Dec-2008 02:34:49] **arfal> I've added that 3 line and nothing happened
[01-Dec-2008 03:07:15] **xpot> check out my snmpd.conf and compare
[01-Dec-2008 03:07:23] **xpot> hld on while I get the link
[01-Dec-2008 03:11:14] **arfal> ok
[01-Dec-2008 03:15:24] **xpot> http://pastebin.ca/1272201
[01-Dec-2008 03:15:32] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - xpot - post number 1272201 (at pastebin.ca)
[01-Dec-2008 03:16:35] **arfal> thx bro, I'll compare it
[01-Dec-2008 03:16:41] **xpot> np'
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:09] **arfal> well, I have compare with yours
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:21] **arfal> theres a little bit differences
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:34] **arfal> and I've used you conf
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:49] **arfal> but, there's nothing happen
[01-Dec-2008 03:29:36] **SpunkMeYeR> hi all
[01-Dec-2008 03:30:08] **SpunkMeYeR> how to send sms alert from zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 03:30:31] **arfal> xpot: I've to get back home right now
[01-Dec-2008 03:30:53] **arfal> thx for all of your discussion
[01-Dec-2008 03:31:01] **arfal> I'll online later
[01-Dec-2008 03:31:03] **arfal> bye
[01-Dec-2008 09:46:57] **Cosmin> how can i monitor eth0:1
[01-Dec-2008 09:46:58] **Cosmin> ?
[01-Dec-2008 09:47:47] **Cosmin> does anyone know how to do that?
[01-Dec-2008 10:09:19] **NoxIn-> AFAIK eth0:1 is just another ip adress on the same interface .. if you pool using snmp I don't think you can.. you will have the traffic of eth0
[01-Dec-2008 10:09:51] **Cosmin> oh ok
[01-Dec-2008 10:09:59] **Cosmin> so its not worth the time
[01-Dec-2008 10:10:21] **NoxIn-> if you do "ifconfig" you see ... you don't have counters for the aliases
[01-Dec-2008 10:10:56] **hotgrits> NoxIn is correct. Can't be done. Sorry, Cosmin!
[01-Dec-2008 10:12:19] **Cosmin>
[01-Dec-2008 10:12:20] **Cosmin> cool
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:38] **Cosmin> the problem that im having is...
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:44] **Cosmin> how i have different ips
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:49] **Cosmin> for each interface
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:57] **Cosmin> when i do discovery
[01-Dec-2008 10:16:06] **Cosmin> i get same device 3 times
[01-Dec-2008 10:16:16] **Cosmin> eth0 eth0:1 and eth0:2
[01-Dec-2008 10:18:49] **Cosmin> anyone know how this could be avoided?
[01-Dec-2008 10:26:22] **NoxIn-> well, it should detect that it's the same device
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:03] **NoxIn-> it create 3 devices ?
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:20] **Cosmin> yes
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:37] **Cosmin> i mean it didnt detect the hostname
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:45] **Cosmin> so it dicovered 3 ip adresses
[01-Dec-2008 10:28:08] **NoxIn-> the snmp agent is working ?
[01-Dec-2008 10:28:25] **NoxIn-> the ip adresses are referenced in the reverse dns zone ?
[01-Dec-2008 10:30:14] **Cosmin> the snmp agent was not working when i installed
[01-Dec-2008 10:30:18] **Cosmin> when i discovered
[01-Dec-2008 10:30:24] **Cosmin> so i guess that would be the problem?
[01-Dec-2008 10:31:11] **NoxIn-> well... zenoss need to have a way to tell the ips correspond to the same device
[01-Dec-2008 10:32:14] **NoxIn-> I'am not an expert on how it does (I am new to zenoss) but on my network it worked pretty well
[01-Dec-2008 10:34:02] **Cosmin> ok
[01-Dec-2008 10:34:06] **Cosmin> ill try that again
[01-Dec-2008 10:34:07] **Cosmin> thanks
[01-Dec-2008 13:09:38] **cgibbons> quiet today
[01-Dec-2008 13:13:43] **magnachef> tukey coma
[01-Dec-2008 13:13:54] **magnachef> s/tukey/turkey/
[01-Dec-2008 13:54:45] **T-mac> Hi, is there anyone in this channel that could answer a question about zenpacks?
[01-Dec-2008 14:04:22] **magnachef> what's the question?
[01-Dec-2008 14:14:51] **T-mac> I installed the fortinet Zenpack. But i do not see a change or anything.
[01-Dec-2008 14:15:13] **T-mac> Is there something else that has to be done?
[01-Dec-2008 14:15:38] **magnachef> not knowing anything about that zenpack, did you add the devices to that device class
[01-Dec-2008 14:16:55] **T-mac> I have added 3 of the Fortigate routers into zenoss if that is what you mean.
[01-Dec-2008 14:17:17] **T-mac> I just thought a zenpack would change the GUI is some sort of wayt
[01-Dec-2008 14:18:03] **magnachef> it will add certain device modeling collectors, performance templates, etc
[01-Dec-2008 14:18:20] **magnachef> but when you add the routers they need to be in the class created for those devices
[01-Dec-2008 14:18:36] **T-mac> Ohhh. I think i see what you mean. Let me give this a try
[01-Dec-2008 14:20:22] **MAlexHerron> has anyone encountered an issue with zenping not pinging devices? even with the daemon running... i am not getting pings unless i manuall run from command-line
[01-Dec-2008 14:23:45] **MAlexHerron> the logs dont show anything abnormal
[01-Dec-2008 14:25:31] **magnachef> try stopping then starting zenping
[01-Dec-2008 14:26:00] **magnachef> it may be something with the cache files
[01-Dec-2008 14:34:08] **magnachef> are these new devices it's not pinging?
[01-Dec-2008 14:46:20] **T-mac> magnachef, do you mean when i add the device in the "devince class path" i should select the correct one?
[01-Dec-2008 14:55:01] **magnachef> yeah
[01-Dec-2008 14:55:25] **magnachef> so I'm assuming it created a device class of: /devices/routers/fortigate
[01-Dec-2008 14:55:29] **magnachef> or something like that
[01-Dec-2008 14:58:34] **T-mac> Yeah i looked for somethig like that. There is no new created path
[01-Dec-2008 14:58:47] **magnachef> hmmm
[01-Dec-2008 14:59:07] **magnachef> maybe it added some collectors under an existing device class
[01-Dec-2008 14:59:33] **magnachef> check the zenpack's documentation, or post a question to the zenpack forums
[01-Dec-2008 14:59:59] **T-mac> Might have to do that.
[01-Dec-2008 15:00:09] **T-mac> It would be sweet to get this thing going.
[01-Dec-2008 15:10:34] **magnachef> cool
[01-Dec-2008 15:11:04] **mrayzenoss> just got back from vacation, getting all my community stuff straightened out
[01-Dec-2008 15:11:22] **monrad> vacation is highly overrated
[01-Dec-2008 15:11:23] **mrayzenoss> not sure if I can catch up on 550+ forum posts
[01-Dec-2008 15:14:41] **magnachef> speed read ;-)
[01-Dec-2008 16:06:56] **gf69> good evening
[01-Dec-2008 16:08:14] **gf69> im new to zenoss...i installed it on a remotely hosted machine for a company i work for
[01-Dec-2008 16:08:32] **magnachef> welcome
[01-Dec-2008 16:09:04] **gf69> as i attempt to learn the application to make it do what they want i am trying to add my machine hosted at my house to see if it detects it etc yet keep getting this error
[01-Dec-2008 16:09:06] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[01-Dec-2008 16:09:29] **gf69> 161 and 162 udp are open on both ends
[01-Dec-2008 16:10:01] **magnachef> is snmp configured properly on nyfreetech.us?
[01-Dec-2008 16:10:14] **magnachef> can you walk it via snmp from the commandline on the zenoss server
[01-Dec-2008 16:10:52] **gf69> i installed snmp on nyft via apt
[01-Dec-2008 16:11:10] **magnachef> you need to make sure it's configured properly and that net-snmp is running
[01-Dec-2008 16:12:14] **gf69> and went in the config and made rocommunity public
[01-Dec-2008 16:13:07] **gf69> ps ax | grep snmp
[01-Dec-2008 16:13:07] **gf69> 4200 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1
[01-Dec-2008 16:14:37] **gf69> run this from cl? /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler run --now -F -d nyfreetech.us --weblog
[01-Dec-2008 16:16:17] **gf69> get the same thing when i run it from a command line
[01-Dec-2008 16:24:37] **magnachef> try running: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public .
[01-Dec-2008 16:25:01] **magnachef> make sure you restart snmpd when making config changes
[01-Dec-2008 16:44:38] LarsN is now known as LarsN-Away
[01-Dec-2008 18:35:56] **arfal> anybody here?
[01-Dec-2008 18:37:10] * magnachef is
[01-Dec-2008 18:39:24] * MAlexHerron is too
[01-Dec-2008 18:39:49] **magnachef> arfal: what seems to be the problem?
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:11] **arfal> just like yesterday
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:18] **arfal> bad oid's
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:36] **arfal> graph performance doesn't show
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:45] **arfal> missing rrd files
[01-Dec-2008 18:53:46] **magnachef> for what check performance data?
[01-Dec-2008 18:54:03] **magnachef> standard, zenpack, custom added by you?
[01-Dec-2008 18:56:25] **arfal> standard
[01-Dec-2008 18:56:48] **arfal> this is one of my error on events tab:
[01-Dec-2008 18:56:54] **arfal> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on SRV-1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[01-Dec-2008 19:01:21] **magnachef> are you sure you can poll those values?
[01-Dec-2008 19:01:33] **magnachef> try doing an snmpget on the commandline
[01-Dec-2008 19:01:59] **arfal> I've tried running snmplwalk
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:12] **magnachef> and you're getting proper values back?
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:20] **arfal> the result is just 'End of MIB'
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:34] **magnachef> oh, ok, the issue is then with your device
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:39] **magnachef> what type of device is it?
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:44] **arfal> this is my command: snmpwalk -v1 -c public 172.25.8.246 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:49] **arfal> linux server
[01-Dec-2008 19:03:41] **arfal> I've installed net-snmp-5.3.0.1-25.2
[01-Dec-2008 19:03:52] **arfal> open the 161 162 udp port
[01-Dec-2008 19:04:02] **arfal> still oid error..
[01-Dec-2008 19:04:54] **magnachef> did you configure snmpd.conf properly?
[01-Dec-2008 19:04:56] **magnachef> and restart snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:18] **magnachef> I tried it on one of my linux servers and I got a result
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:19] **arfal> I think so, and I have restart snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:46] **magnachef> can you paste your config, preferrably in pastebin
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:54] **arfal> what is the most necessary things I have to add to my snmpd.conf?
[01-Dec-2008 19:06:05] **arfal> ok
[01-Dec-2008 19:06:39] **magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[01-Dec-2008 19:06:46] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:09:56] **magnachef> you probably need to check if your package was compiled with proper flags to monitor memory
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:43] **arfal> how can I checked it?
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:49] **arfal> this is my snmpd.conf
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:50] **arfal> http://pastebin.com/d2db5ac36
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:57] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:12:16] **magnachef> do an snmpwalk on 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.100.6.0
[01-Dec-2008 19:13:04] **arfal> same result, just End of MIB
[01-Dec-2008 19:13:53] **arfal> from the link u gave me, it is just copy paste the line to my snmpd.conf?
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:24] **magnachef> http://pastebin.com/m397f1db7
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:29] **magnachef> check out that simple config
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:32] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:35] **magnachef> put it in place and restart snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 19:17:41] **arfal> ok I'll try it
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:13] **arfal> nope, its same
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:35] **arfal> bad oid, and graphic performance still not appear
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:36] **magnachef> probably your version of net-snmp
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:50] **magnachef> yeah, you won't get any graphs until that oid works
[01-Dec-2008 19:22:48] **arfal> maybe, what version do you used?
[01-Dec-2008 19:23:42] **magnachef> 5.3.1
[01-Dec-2008 19:24:06] **magnachef> I'm running centos 4.6
[01-Dec-2008 19:24:23] **arfal> ok, I'll try to upgrade it first
[01-Dec-2008 19:24:37] **magnachef> you'll need to check the compile options as well
[01-Dec-2008 19:29:10] **magnachef> here's the flags that my version was compiled with: http://pastebin.com/m33014daa
[01-Dec-2008 19:29:18] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:32:52] **arfal> ok, better to installed it from tar.gz then
[01-Dec-2008 19:35:56] **gf69> what all needs configured for snmp on the machine being monitored by zenoss?
[01-Dec-2008 19:36:25] **gf69> both machines are not on the same network and the one being monitored is behind a router
[01-Dec-2008 19:36:40] **gf69> with 161 and 162 udp forwarded to it
[01-Dec-2008 19:36:48] **gf69> still getting the same error Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[01-Dec-2008 19:37:21] **magnachef> see my above posts
[01-Dec-2008 19:37:33] **gf69> about restarting or after?
[01-Dec-2008 19:37:57] **magnachef> well, I pasted an easy config file a few lines up
[01-Dec-2008 19:38:17] **magnachef> put that in place, restart snmpd, and then try to manually walk the device from the commandline
[01-Dec-2008 19:38:50] **magnachef> did you try running: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public .
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:16] **gf69> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public nyfreetech.us .
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:16] **gf69> Timeout: No Response from nyfreetech.us
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:26] **gf69> will put that sample config in 1 sec
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:31] **magnachef> can you ping nyfreetech.us?
[01-Dec-2008 19:43:31] **gf69> will timeout...always has for some reason
[01-Dec-2008 19:43:41] **magnachef> there's your issue
[01-Dec-2008 19:43:42] **gf69> dunno if it is due to the router or the nix wall
[01-Dec-2008 19:44:21] **magnachef> do you have port 161 opened?
[01-Dec-2008 19:44:26] **magnachef> on the unix machine?
[01-Dec-2008 19:44:53] **gf69> Yes
[01-Dec-2008 19:45:09] **gf69> and in the router its pointed to the nix box
[01-Dec-2008 19:45:23] **magnachef> have you validated it via tcpdump or something like that
[01-Dec-2008 19:45:53] **gf69> this machine is on the same network and i cant even ping it lol never was able to...unless i ping the local ip
[01-Dec-2008 19:46:53] **gf69> the router itself must be blocking the pings
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:22] **magnachef> yeah
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:26] **gf69> Respond to Ping on Internet Port
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:35] **gf69> might wanna check that in the router hehe
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:36] **magnachef> how about SNMP?
[01-Dec-2008 19:51:58] **arfal> what is the right output should be when we run snmpwalk?
[01-Dec-2008 19:53:50] **gf691> --- nyfreetech.us ping statistics ---
[01-Dec-2008 19:53:50] **gf691> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms
[01-Dec-2008 19:53:50] **gf691> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 64.689/66.160/67.709/1.045 ms
[01-Dec-2008 19:54:12] **magnachef> a lot of data
[01-Dec-2008 19:54:58] **gf691> now for the config file
[01-Dec-2008 19:56:16] **arfal> hey, my graphics performance have appear, many thanks to you magnachef :-)
[01-Dec-2008 19:56:55] **magnachef> no problem :-)
[01-Dec-2008 20:06:30] **gf691> still
[01-Dec-2008 20:06:57] **gf691> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/ did this
[01-Dec-2008 20:07:04] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 20:07:07] **gf691> and restarted snmp
[01-Dec-2008 20:07:24] **gf691> i need to make the same changes to snmp on the box that has zenoss on it as well?
[01-Dec-2008 20:09:22] gf691 is now known as gf69
[01-Dec-2008 20:12:21] **magnachef> no, you don't
[01-Dec-2008 20:12:37] **magnachef> but you should if you want to monitor it as well
[01-Dec-2008 20:14:32] **arfal> one more thing
[01-Dec-2008 20:14:44] **arfal> how can I configure zenoss server time?
[01-Dec-2008 20:15:01] **arfal> cause everytime I reconfigure it, then the zenhub wont start
[01-Dec-2008 20:19:13] **magnachef> I think it grabs it from the system time
[01-Dec-2008 20:20:22] **magnachef> checks the forums for that answer
[01-Dec-2008 20:25:19] **arfal> ok
[01-Dec-2008 20:27:57] **arfal> actually I've sync it with one of my server
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:11] **magnachef> well, I'm heading home...I'll be back tomorrow if we need to continue
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:14] **arfal> but when zenoss restart, the zenhub still won't up
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:23] **arfal> ok, thx anyway
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:31] **magnachef> check the forums for help
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:49] **magnachef> you may need to change your time setting within zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 20:35:01] **gf69> damn still
[01-Dec-2008 20:35:04] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[01-Dec-2008 20:35:37] **gf69> well this is wierd
[01-Dec-2008 20:36:01] **gf69> i copied the config from the machine with zenoss on it to nyfreetech
[01-Dec-2008 20:36:34] **gf69> the machine with zenoss on it maps just fine when i do the model device in zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 20:36:47] **gf69> yet nyft still says configure snmp lol
[01-Dec-2008 20:45:14] **gf69> there are ports referred to in the zenpacks....they need opened?
[01-Dec-2008 20:45:18] **gf69> such as zIpServiceMapMaxPort
[01-Dec-2008 20:45:58] **gf69> oops zproperties
[01-Dec-2008 21:13:50] **Cosmin> gf69
[01-Dec-2008 21:13:56] **Cosmin> try to telnet to port 161
[01-Dec-2008 21:14:00] **Cosmin> from the zenoss box
[01-Dec-2008 21:15:43] **arfal> try to copy this snmpd.conf lines from here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[01-Dec-2008 21:15:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> telnet nyfreetech.us 161
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> Trying 74.69.187.142...
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> telnet: connect to address 74.69.187.142: Connection timed out
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:36] **gf69> 161 is open
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:37] **gf69> PORT STATE SERVICE
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:37] **gf69> 111/udp open|filtered rpcbind
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:37] **gf69> 161/udp open|filtered snmp
[01-Dec-2008 22:19:48] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[01-Dec-2008 22:20:09] **raddy> Can anybody let me know the status of Ticket #3709 ?
[01-Dec-2008 22:22:34] **arfal> what is Ticket #3709 ?
[01-Dec-2008 22:23:13] **raddy> arfal : Are you a developer of Zenoss?
[01-Dec-2008 22:35:02] **arfal> no, I'm not
[01-Dec-2008 22:35:05] **arfal> just user
[01-Dec-2008 22:39:29] **raddy> arfal : http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3709
[01-Dec-2008 22:49:26] **raddy> arfal : are you using ZenOSS to monitor remote device
[01-Dec-2008 23:36:05] **arfal> yes I'm
[01-Dec-2008 23:52:25] **arfal> anybody have problem with zenoss time server?
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[02-Dec-2008 01:41:50] **krphop> I'm having an issue with zeonss where the load average graphs are only graphing 5 minute average
[02-Dec-2008 01:41:56] **krphop> the 1 minute and 15 minute are near zero
[02-Dec-2008 02:02:57] **Larve_Q> hi...all
[02-Dec-2008 02:04:24] **krphop> sup
[02-Dec-2008 02:04:55] **Larve_Q> Question, is it possible to change de default font size of the eventconsole?
[02-Dec-2008 03:38:02] gf691 is now known as gf69
[02-Dec-2008 04:12:49] **sofh> hello all
[02-Dec-2008 04:13:24] **sofh> i am new to nms systems and off course zenoss...
[02-Dec-2008 04:14:42] **sofh> want to monitor different OIDs from routers or pc...can anybody give me a guidline where to take a start from?
[02-Dec-2008 04:15:33] **sofh> :|
[02-Dec-2008 04:26:38] **sofh> nobody there ?
[02-Dec-2008 04:34:57] **Larve_Q> hi sofh...
[02-Dec-2008 04:35:12] **Larve_Q> i would start with a perfomance template
[02-Dec-2008 04:35:23] **Larve_Q> chapter 13 in the admin guide...
[02-Dec-2008 04:51:18] **sofh> Thank you so much for the tip
[02-Dec-2008 04:51:23] **sofh> let mecheck it out
[02-Dec-2008 04:51:44] **sofh> one more question ...to get the data from different OIDs is zenoss core enough or should i go for professional
[02-Dec-2008 04:54:29] **baffle_> Is it possible to scan a Cisco router/switch (6513 in my case) with a huge routing table without ZenOss exploding?
[02-Dec-2008 04:58:22] **Larve_Q> Core should be enough...i'm using core as well
[02-Dec-2008 07:07:16] **kim0> Hi, I'm just starting with zenoss .. It autodiscovered my network ..
[02-Dec-2008 07:08:45] **kim0> um, can I have all machines that are listenning on port 22 be put into "class" Linux servers ?
[02-Dec-2008 08:24:58] **baffle_> Seems I was unable to add my Cisco 6513 router/switch. One issue is that it talks BGP. I disabled the routing collectors, and then it worked. But now it complains about all VLAN interfaces missing routing. :-)
[02-Dec-2008 11:12:09] **Dry> I want to send performance date to zenoss using XML/RPC. Is there convenient way to do it?
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[03-Dec-2008 01:25:57] **arfal> evening everyone
[03-Dec-2008 01:34:30] **hive> hi
[03-Dec-2008 02:11:22] **krphop> wtf
[03-Dec-2008 02:11:35] **krphop> still having issues iwth the default load average graph
[03-Dec-2008 02:12:00] **krphop> 1 minute and 15 minute always show 0 or near 0, 5 minute is the only one that goes above that
[03-Dec-2008 04:32:21] **yhoyo> hello...
[03-Dec-2008 05:31:12] **huggie> Hmm. Is there really no way to only alert once for say a VPN (rather than for all the devices behind it)?
[03-Dec-2008 05:36:56] **huggie> Ah, maybe zenping does it automatically. Better check I'm pinging everything.
[03-Dec-2008 07:01:52] **maaarek> Can anyone help me with snmp traps. How thing should be done with it. I have nice wifi ruter, what send out snmp traps and what can i do with it, as i have read i could read alot stuff from it... Or i am wrong?
[03-Dec-2008 09:24:09] **gf69> damn still getting the same error
[03-Dec-2008 09:26:29] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 09:31:31] **NoxIn-> does it ping from your zenoss box ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:31:46] **NoxIn-> does it works if you do a snmpwalk from the zenoss box ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:34:43] **gf69> no walk
[03-Dec-2008 09:34:50] **gf69> i can ping it though
[03-Dec-2008 09:35:28] **gf69> i used the sample config settings on the box being monitored
[03-Dec-2008 09:35:35] **gf69> made sure the ports are open
[03-Dec-2008 09:36:23] **NoxIn-> the snmp agent on nyfreetech.us is configured with the same cummunauty ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:36:46] **gf69> Yes
[03-Dec-2008 09:37:05] **gf69> both configs have rocommunity public
[03-Dec-2008 09:37:29] **gf69> on the zenoss box and the nyft
[03-Dec-2008 09:37:49] **gf69> the zenoss box has a webserver etc on it and it fully mapped itself
[03-Dec-2008 09:38:28] **NoxIn-> well as long as it don't work with snmpwalk, zenoss won't succeed either ... snmpwalk answer timeout ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:39:00] **gf69> Yes
[03-Dec-2008 09:39:05] **NoxIn-> can you dump the IP traffic on nyft to check if you see the snmp request incoming ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:39:59] **NoxIn-> (it timeout on nyfreetech.us from here too... but it's normal I suppose I get firewalled as my ip is not known)
[03-Dec-2008 09:41:15] **gf69> [LAN access from remote] from 67.241.241.179:61773 to 192.168.1.100:161
[03-Dec-2008 09:41:23] **gf69> theres in my router...lemme look on the box too
[03-Dec-2008 09:41:34] **gf69> i set my router to allow ping replies
[03-Dec-2008 09:45:53] **NoxIn-> you have something like tcpdump on nyfr ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:46:05] **gf69> ya
[03-Dec-2008 09:47:04] **NoxIn-> and when you do snmpwalk you see the snmp request coming ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:47:51] **gf69> whats the udp switch for tcpdump?
[03-Dec-2008 09:48:07] **gf69> in the router...gotta check the box yet
[03-Dec-2008 09:48:27] **NoxIn-> tcpdump port 161
[03-Dec-2008 09:48:51] **NoxIn-> eventualy tcpdump -i eth... port 161 if it's not on eth0
[03-Dec-2008 09:50:22] **gf69> 10:49:58.559774 IP cpe-67-241-241-179.stny.res.rr.com.63394 > nyfreetech.local.snmp: GetRequest(94) E:2435.2.3.9.4.2.1.5.5.6.0 [|snmp]
[03-Dec-2008 09:50:22] **gf69> 10:50:02.434750 IP cpe-67-241-241-179.stny.res.rr.com.49159 > nyfreetech.local.snmp: GetRequest(102) 43.13.4.1.9.1.1 [|snmp]
[03-Dec-2008 09:51:05] **NoxIn-> this is on the routeur I guess ? so looks like nyfreetech.local doesn't answer
[03-Dec-2008 09:51:23] **gf69> that was a tcpdump on the box
[03-Dec-2008 09:51:28] **gf69> 161/udp open|filtered snmp
[03-Dec-2008 09:52:21] **NoxIn-> it was on the 192.168.1.100 ? then you don't have a network problem the box receive the request but don't respond
[03-Dec-2008 09:52:44] **NoxIn-> either the snmpd is down... or it don't accept the authorisation
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:17] **gf69> i get an error in zenoss when i try to ping nyft from the ui
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:19] **NoxIn-> you may have more info in the systems logs
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> Command: ping -c2 ${device/manageIp}
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> Description:
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> Output:
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> ==== nyfreetech.us ====
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> ping -c2 74.69.187.142
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:39] **gf69> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
[03-Dec-2008 09:54:28] **NoxIn-> that's strange
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[03-Dec-2008 10:29:29] **magnachef> gf69: still battling that router? :-)
[03-Dec-2008 10:35:48] **gf69> battling it all
[03-Dec-2008 10:40:06] **Firestar> I'm having a terrible time getting zenbackup to work
[03-Dec-2008 10:40:33] **Firestar> Even if I have Zenoss running, I still see "Unable to get mysql info from zeo. Looks like zeo is not running."
[03-Dec-2008 10:53:31] **magnachef> is zeo running?
[03-Dec-2008 10:56:50] **Firestar> How do I start zeo?
[03-Dec-2008 10:57:17] **magnachef> I think you can run "zeo start" as zenoss user
[03-Dec-2008 10:58:11] **Firestar> Where is zeo?
[03-Dec-2008 10:58:18] **Firestar> bash: zeo: command not found
[03-Dec-2008 11:02:01] **Firestar> Shouldn't it be running if Zenoss is running?
[03-Dec-2008 12:11:32] **MAlexHerron> firestar... check in the bin directory... i believe it is zeoctl start
[03-Dec-2008 12:11:45] **MAlexHerron> sorry for being an hour later than you asked the question
[03-Dec-2008 12:11:57] **MAlexHerron> oh, he's not even here anymore... whatever
[03-Dec-2008 12:39:29] **Cosmin> is anyone using zenoss to monitor only http?
[03-Dec-2008 12:44:07] **LarsN> Cosmin: We "also" monitor http on a few machines with multiple sites.
[03-Dec-2008 12:44:07] **LarsN> The new version of Zenoss appears to break some core functionality we rely on.
[03-Dec-2008 12:46:42] **Cosmin>
[03-Dec-2008 12:47:06] **Cosmin> do you use the apache plugin or not?
[03-Dec-2008 13:29:39] **Cosmin> hmm
[03-Dec-2008 13:29:45] **Cosmin> im trying to add a data source
[03-Dec-2008 13:29:49] **Cosmin> for one of the templates
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:07] **Cosmin> and it shows like its working
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:16] **Cosmin> but it justs sits there
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:21] **Cosmin> and if i close it
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:34] **Cosmin> and try to do something else zenoss doesnt repond anymore
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:43] **Cosmin> and i have to restart it
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:51] **Cosmin> anyone have any ideeas?
[03-Dec-2008 13:34:37] **magnachef> I'm thinking you should check for errors with it in zenperfsnmp.log file
[03-Dec-2008 13:39:10] **Cosmin> yeah.. i`m tailing all the logs and nothing...
[03-Dec-2008 13:39:11] **Cosmin>
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:33] **Cosmin> yeah...
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:33] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:45 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:34] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:45 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:34] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:45 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:35] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:47 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:38] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:47 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:41] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:47 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:44] **Cosmin> anyone seen this before?
[03-Dec-2008 13:41:19] **Cosmin> seems f up
[03-Dec-2008 14:12:43] **Cosmin> 64 bit issue
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[03-Dec-2008 15:13:01] **gf69> magnachef i cant get squat to work
[03-Dec-2008 15:13:21] **gf69> the only one that zenoss picked up and got all the proper info for was the box it is on
[03-Dec-2008 15:13:51] **gf69> i also tried adding a colobrus system and i get the same snmp settings error when modeling device
[03-Dec-2008 15:13:52] **magnachef> sounds like Zenoss is ok, but your access to other machines is still the issue
[03-Dec-2008 15:15:28] **gf69> i even tried monitoring just http on it as per this page http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[03-Dec-2008 15:15:35] **adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Dec-2008 15:22:11] **magnachef> can you do a curl of the website from the zenoss server?
[03-Dec-2008 15:23:10] **gf69> curl?
[03-Dec-2008 15:23:34] **magnachef> it's a unix utility to grab websites
[03-Dec-2008 15:24:24] **gf69> ya it came up with the source code
[03-Dec-2008 15:24:28] **gf69> of the index page
[03-Dec-2008 15:24:59] **magnachef> are you putting it in the right device class and turning off snmp monitoring of it?
[03-Dec-2008 15:25:55] **chudler> is support.zenoss.com down?
[03-Dec-2008 15:26:27] **gf69> ya i added the class and the plugin for http as per that link i posted
[03-Dec-2008 15:27:27] **Firestar> chudler, appears to be
[03-Dec-2008 15:28:04] **Firestar> I'm trying to upgrade an enterprise appliance from 2.1.2 -> 2.2, and I'm getting this error:
[03-Dec-2008 15:28:46] **Firestar> group-zenoss-enterprise was not found on branches /zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:enterprise-2.2
[03-Dec-2008 15:42:58] **Firestar> no ideas?
[03-Dec-2008 15:59:31] **killing-joke> hi. is there an easy way to bulk load a few hundred devices into a new install? i have a kind of large env.
[03-Dec-2008 15:59:50] **Cosmin> discovery?
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:10] **killing-joke> it has been up for a week, and it has found two hosts
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:22] **killing-joke> one is itself
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:41] **Cosmin> then you dont have zenoss allowed to get them'
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:48] **killing-joke> the network is huge and flat, and a bunch of snmp available
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:48] **Cosmin> iptables or the firewall
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:52] **Cosmin> access-list
[03-Dec-2008 16:01:01] **killing-joke> i'll check the gateways. thanks.
[03-Dec-2008 16:01:21] **Cosmin> try pinging from the zenoss host
[03-Dec-2008 16:02:47] **killing-joke> hmmm. it works.
[03-Dec-2008 16:02:55] **killing-joke> icmp does, that is.
[03-Dec-2008 16:06:11] **Cosmin> for a server that was not discovered?
[03-Dec-2008 16:06:42] **killing-joke> yes. i added a /Ping device, and zendisc ran, but it errored out
[03-Dec-2008 16:07:06] **killing-joke> does zendisc take CIDR addresses? or some other wildcard?
[03-Dec-2008 16:07:37] **Cosmin> what error di you get?
[03-Dec-2008 16:09:12] **killing-joke> Error: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): Products.ZenModel.Exceptions.NoIPAddress: No IP found for name 10.x.0.0/16 ]
[03-Dec-2008 16:09:32] **killing-joke> x = some big networks in house
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:11] **Cosmin> device is different then subnet
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:11] **Cosmin>
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:22] **Cosmin> when you add a device you need to add one ip
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:31] **Cosmin> if you want to add more you need to dicover them
[03-Dec-2008 16:12:29] **killing-joke> is there an API i can feed the IPs to?
[03-Dec-2008 16:12:39] **killing-joke> i will just write a script to spit out a bunch
[03-Dec-2008 16:16:41] **killing-joke> a quick grep through the list of hardware shows over 700 infrastructure devices. switches, ip kvms, terminal servers, etc.
[03-Dec-2008 16:16:56] **killing-joke> it would be a bit of effort to type them in one at a time.
[03-Dec-2008 16:18:07] **chudler> try the dev guide at . Chapter 7: Adding Devices Programatically
[03-Dec-2008 16:18:15] **adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Dec-2008 16:18:16] **killing-joke> cool!
[03-Dec-2008 16:19:12] **chudler> personally, I just do "wget http://user:password@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=10.12.0.99&devicePath=/Devices/Server/"
[03-Dec-2008 16:19:13] **adytum-bot> chudler: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[03-Dec-2008 16:20:13] **killing-joke> ... where device name is the not-yet-known device IP? >:)
[03-Dec-2008 16:20:41] **chudler> wait, I missed the part where you didn't know your devices ip (?)
[03-Dec-2008 16:20:54] **killing-joke> i do. i have a large range.
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:11] **killing-joke> i could loop over a list, with deviceName=$iter
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:22] **killing-joke> or $index, or whatever
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:24] **chudler> exactly
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:42] **killing-joke> hee hee hee. gonna try it. i'll start with a hundred.
[03-Dec-2008 16:22:37] **killing-joke> if i only want to ping them at first, should i use /Device/Ping? if i do, can i add more monitoring as another service later?
[03-Dec-2008 16:23:39] **chudler> yeah, I guess so, but it may try to do snmp when the device is loaded. I've never put devices in that class.
[03-Dec-2008 16:24:31] **gf69> man i still get this damned thing to work
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:14] **killing-joke> coolness ... Result: Discovered device ${IPv4}
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:29] **killing-joke> it did try snmp no harm done
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:50] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:57] **gf69> ive been through everything
[03-Dec-2008 16:27:20] **killing-joke> wget works. i pipe the html to grep "zen\.ZenDisc" for quick logging.
[03-Dec-2008 16:40:57] **killing-joke> gf69 what kind of device are you trying to collect SNMP from?
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:23] **killing-joke> Cosmin: many thanks!
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:44] **killing-joke> chudler: this process seems to be reliable, but it is certainly not swift.
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:52] **Cosmin> did you find it?
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:57] **killing-joke> maybe i should get a faster box
[03-Dec-2008 16:44:08] **killing-joke> Cosmin: i am faking them into the db
[03-Dec-2008 16:44:20] **Cosmin> cool
[03-Dec-2008 16:44:41] **killing-joke> it is great! i am in your debt, guys.
[03-Dec-2008 16:48:11] **Cosmin> beer
[03-Dec-2008 16:48:12] **Cosmin>)
[03-Dec-2008 16:49:44] **krphop> yeah, so the default install of 2.3 is jacked up for querying load
[03-Dec-2008 16:58:16] **gf69> trying to monitor a web server in a remote location from the zenoss machine
[03-Dec-2008 16:58:40] **gf69> eventually we are going to use it to monitor colubrus systems
[03-Dec-2008 16:59:00] **gf69> which i tried setting one of them in zenoss to no avail
[03-Dec-2008 16:59:12] **gf69> it tosses the same error as nyft does
[03-Dec-2008 17:10:48] **killing-joke> gf69, i would go through any firewalls at the colo by 1) setting up a restricted ssh with an RSA key 2) making that ssh tunnel the SNMP port 3) putting the ssh in a cron job
[03-Dec-2008 17:10:52] **killing-joke> for starters
[03-Dec-2008 17:11:11] **killing-joke> you can set up a correct tunnel to the colo after the monitoring is working correctly
[03-Dec-2008 17:12:50] **killing-joke> then you can tell your zenoss to check snmp on 127.0.0.1:1600000 (or wherever) and it will go through the loopback, out the tunnel, through the fw(s), and straight to your machine in the colo
[03-Dec-2008 17:13:25] **killing-joke> not tidy, but quick and simple. uses off-the-shelf parts you probably already have.
[03-Dec-2008 17:15:29] **killing-joke> if you have a lot of systems to monitor -- more than 20 or so -- you should have your own VPN into the cage
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:05] **gf69> 3 systems all remote from ea other
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:20] **gf69> the zenoss box the colubris system and the server(nyfreetech)
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:24] **killing-joke> does the colo provide firewall?
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:40] **gf69> not sure.....i can look through it
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:50] **killing-joke> do you have root on these servers?
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:00] **killing-joke> or "Administrator"?
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:09] **gf69> i also installed the colubris zenpack and added it to the list of items scanned when you model a device
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:24] **gf69> i have a gui login for the colubris machine and root to the other 2
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:33] **killing-joke> excellent
[03-Dec-2008 17:32:40] **killing-joke> from the zenoss box, can you telnet to the SNMP port of the colo'ed hosts? usually tcp/161
[03-Dec-2008 17:33:06] **killing-joke> like this ... telnet 266.311.21.4 161
[03-Dec-2008 17:44:43] **gf69> telnet: connect to address 99.51.203.217: Connection refused
[03-Dec-2008 17:44:43] **gf69> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[03-Dec-2008 17:44:57] **gf69> thats the colubris machine
[03-Dec-2008 17:47:00] **killing-joke> right. i would hope that the public IP would not have an exposed login. so ...
[03-Dec-2008 17:47:12] **killing-joke> do you have a VPN into these cages?
[03-Dec-2008 17:47:30] **killing-joke> or do you use three different IPs with SSH?
[03-Dec-2008 17:48:11] **killing-joke> or something else?
[03-Dec-2008 17:48:57] **gf69> the colubris box i have just the gui login for the machine and the other 2 i use ssh via domain
[03-Dec-2008 17:49:15] **gf69> both are webservers +
[03-Dec-2008 17:49:42] **gf69> i also have webmin on them as well as cpanel/whm on the zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 17:50:27] **killing-joke> do you have SNMP services on the two GUI boxes that you can use to push the info out?
[03-Dec-2008 17:50:59] **killing-joke> instead of using zenoss to get the data, can you tell the other machines to push it?
[03-Dec-2008 17:51:37] **gf69> i have snmp installed on nyfreetech
[03-Dec-2008 17:52:18] **killing-joke> on your Zenoss box, you can try ...
[03-Dec-2008 17:52:56] **killing-joke> ssh -L 11061:localhost:161 root@nyfreetech.wherever
[03-Dec-2008 17:53:26] **killing-joke> and then point Zenoss at the SNMP server that is listening at the end of the little tunnel
[03-Dec-2008 17:53:43] **killing-joke> local end would be at 127.0.0.1:11061 on Zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 17:54:13] **gf69> ok i ssh to nyft from the zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 17:54:21] **killing-joke> if you exit the ssh session, the tunnel comes down, though/ this is a temporary workaround.
[03-Dec-2008 17:54:30] **killing-joke> right, with the tunnel args
[03-Dec-2008 17:55:18] **gf69> now with the ssh tunnel in place, how to i point zenoss at it
[03-Dec-2008 17:55:43] **killing-joke> ah. i'm a zenoss n00b. wait 1.
[03-Dec-2008 17:56:23] **killing-joke> Add Device > Attributes
[03-Dec-2008 17:56:31] **killing-joke> Name: 127.0.0.1
[03-Dec-2008 17:56:43] **killing-joke> SNMP Port: 11061 (or whatever you used)
[03-Dec-2008 17:57:27] **gf69> ssh -L 11061:localhost:161 root@nyfreetech.us used this
[03-Dec-2008 17:57:38] **killing-joke> looks good
[03-Dec-2008 17:59:14] **killing-joke> chudler, hey, i am filling my db up with crud and garbage. now i have about 8% dead or non-responding IPs. the delete func is a javascript thingie.
[03-Dec-2008 17:59:24] **killing-joke> can you think of a way to automate that?
[03-Dec-2008 18:02:19] **gf69> Device localhost timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:09] **gf69> agent side is the machine being monitored by zenoss?
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> Ensure that there is an SNMP daemon running on the target device. To determine if the daemon is
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> running, issue this command:
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> netstat -an | grep -i udp
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> If you see an entry that looks like this, then the agent is running but Zenoss cannot get the
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> information for another reason:
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:33] **gf69> udp 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:*
[03-Dec-2008 18:38:57] **killing-joke> hmmm.
[03-Dec-2008 18:39:15] **killing-joke> udp only?
[03-Dec-2008 18:40:20] **gf69> i just killed my firewall on nyfreetch and did a model device and got same thing
[03-Dec-2008 18:40:29] **gf69> so i can rule out the firewall stopping it
[03-Dec-2008 18:42:07] **gf69> nope same thing
[03-Dec-2008 18:42:37] **killing-joke> gf69, can you reconfigure the service to listen on tcp as well as (or instead of) udp?
[03-Dec-2008 18:42:55] **killing-joke> ssh tunnels tcp very well, and as far as i cna find out, udp not at all
[03-Dec-2008 18:58:29] **killing-joke> about 22% of my mass-loaded IPs turned out to have moved, crashed, or otherwise achieved dud-hood
[03-Dec-2008 18:58:37] **killing-joke> how can i mass delete?
[03-Dec-2008 19:08:01] **gf69> tcpdump port 161 -vvv
[03-Dec-2008 19:08:01] **gf69> tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[03-Dec-2008 19:08:01] **gf69> 20:07:26.983432 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 53, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 64) server2.wifirvclub.com.56088 > nyfreetech.local.snmp: [udp sum ok] { SNMPv2c { GetNextRequest(21) R=153995175 .iso.org } }
[03-Dec-2008 19:18:42] **killing-joke> hey!
[03-Dec-2008 19:18:54] **killing-joke> does that mean it works now?
[03-Dec-2008 19:20:12] **killing-joke> i have an ugly toadlike hack for mass-deletion that may be under your threshhold of repetitive strain injury
[03-Dec-2008 19:20:57] **killing-joke> for IP in `cat ip-list`; do links http://admin:*password*@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Ping/devices/${IP}/dialog_deleteDevice; done
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[03-Dec-2008 19:22:08] **killing-joke> if the list is under a hundred or so, you hit enter for each one, then quit eLinks. lather. rinse, repeat repeat repeat.
[03-Dec-2008 19:22:36] **killing-joke> it's a few hundred keystrokes
[03-Dec-2008 19:35:39] **gf69> wanna hear something real funny?
[03-Dec-2008 19:35:52] **gf69> i can snmpwalk the zenoss box from nyfreetech
[03-Dec-2008 19:35:58] **killing-joke> how!?
[03-Dec-2008 19:36:42] **gf69> snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 2c 74.200.217.178
[03-Dec-2008 19:36:53] **gf69> from nyfreetech tunred up a bunch of output
[03-Dec-2008 19:36:59] **gf69> to the point i had to stop it lol
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:16] **gf69> and if i replace the ip for localhost on nyft, it will walk itself
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:20] **killing-joke> well cool
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:42] **killing-joke> be sure to firewall off the snmp port so only your hosts can walk it
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:51] **gf69> but if i snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 2c nyfreetech.us from the zenoss box it times out no response
[03-Dec-2008 19:38:23] **gf69> in my wall on nyft i made it allow all traffic from zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:06] **killing-joke> so there
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:12] **killing-joke> you got it all going
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:14] **killing-joke> cool!
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:15] **gf69> No
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:25] **killing-joke> half of it! open a beer!
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:32] **gf69> same output for nyft in zenoss
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:38] **killing-joke> oh
[03-Dec-2008 19:40:34] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 19:40:47] **gf69> beer nuthin
[03-Dec-2008 19:41:07] **gf69> i got a glass of watermelon pucker bacardi 151 and apple zima sittin here
[03-Dec-2008 19:41:20] **gf69> tastes just like jolly rancher candies
[03-Dec-2008 19:41:26] **gf69> with kick
[03-Dec-2008 19:47:37] **killing-joke> that'll strip the shine off of the nicest girls morals
[03-Dec-2008 19:55:15] **arfal> hello all
[03-Dec-2008 19:55:34] **arfal> my zenhub won't start
[03-Dec-2008 19:55:37] **arfal> any idea?
[03-Dec-2008 21:33:49] **arfal> mt zenhub won't start after I reconfigure my zenoss server time to an earlier time
[03-Dec-2008 21:33:56] **arfal> my zenhub won't start after I reconfigure my zenoss server time to an earlier time
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[04-Dec-2008 06:17:14] **gf69> my linux box will snmpwalk the zenoss box and it will walk itself via localhost but if i try to walk itself via ip0 or domain, it gets no response
[04-Dec-2008 06:22:05] **maarek> what to i do with mibs in zenoss, after i am done installing them?
[04-Dec-2008 06:32:52] **gf69> wooot i can model my linux box in zenoss
[04-Dec-2008 06:33:46] **gf69> if anyone has any trouble with the error Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct? and you try everything in the forums and it still tosses the error do this
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> Thanks for your tip. At first I couldn't find where the 127.0.0.1 was
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> coming from on Etch, but after some digging around I found
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> 127.0.0.1' (this is SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:38] **gf69> I found
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:44] **gf69> dammit
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:59] **gf69> etc/defaults/snmpd (I always forget this folder)
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:59] **gf69> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:59] **gf69> 127.0.0.1' (this is SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:22] **gf69> go to /etc/default edit snmpd file in there look for this line
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:35] **gf69> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1'
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:53] **gf69> take off the 127.0.0.1 so it reads SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid'
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:57] **gf69> and it will work
[04-Dec-2008 06:37:17] **gf69> this is a debian fix not sure how many distros it will work in
[04-Dec-2008 07:48:40] **gnov> Hi all
[04-Dec-2008 07:50:26] **gnov> Anyone know when the data would be off by exactly 1 day on all events logged in zenoss? I just checked the date on the server (using the date command) and it is correct. Zenoss is time stamping things a day ahead. What could be causing this?
[04-Dec-2008 07:53:43] **gnov> It is only wrong on the Events page for an object... If I click the event for details the date is correct.
[04-Dec-2008 08:20:51] **NoxIn-> gf69: SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1'
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:03] **NoxIn-> your snmp agent listen only on localhost
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:10] **NoxIn-> remove the "127.0.0.1"
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:18] **NoxIn-> oops sorry
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:32] **NoxIn-> didn't read until the end
[04-Dec-2008 08:59:37] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[04-Dec-2008 09:00:12] **raddy> Is it possible to configure Zenoss to ignore some process's status?
[04-Dec-2008 09:10:21] **raddy> Anybody there?
[04-Dec-2008 09:58:41] __jason__ is now known as jrszenoss
[04-Dec-2008 09:59:28] **mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening
[04-Dec-2008 10:01:36] **mrayzenoss> so... any questions?
[04-Dec-2008 10:03:26] **andrewp> I use Zenoss to monitor uptime and response time of websites. Recently I've found that I can no longer add new ones to my installation because two 'devices' can no longer share an IP.
[04-Dec-2008 10:03:55] **andrewp> I've seen a couple of workarounds, but will this behavior go away in the future?
[04-Dec-2008 10:06:12] **mrayzenoss> andrewp: I didn't think you could do 2 machines to the same IP
[04-Dec-2008 10:06:52] **chudler> I think he is referring to Apache virtual hosts or similar setups
[04-Dec-2008 10:07:01] **LarsN> How would you monitor multiple websites by URL hosted in a shared environment on a single server then?
[04-Dec-2008 10:08:37] **andrewp> Yeah, I was referring to a virutal hosting environment.
[04-Dec-2008 10:08:50] **jrszenoss> andrewp: I would love to see websites modeled as components of devices. It would solve this and other problems people have monitoring websites. I don't think it's in the cards anytime soon however.
[04-Dec-2008 10:09:08] **jrszenoss> andrewp: I know that doesn't help you any right now
[04-Dec-2008 10:09:34] **jrszenoss> What workaround have you used?
[04-Dec-2008 10:13:09] **andrewp> I haven't used any workarounds yet. I thought about trying to add devices at the Zope level because the monitoring and perf data for the old sites added in previous releases is still workikng perfectly.
[04-Dec-2008 10:13:37] **andrewp> But that's too hack-ish. I wanted to see what you guys thought would be the best way to do this.
[04-Dec-2008 10:17:45] **jrszenoss> I'm not sure that there is a good solution currently. What would you like to use to monitor the sites - HttpMonitor? ZenWebTx? other?
[04-Dec-2008 10:19:44] **mrayzenoss> So how is 2.3 working out for people?
[04-Dec-2008 10:21:23] **chudler> upgrade went very smoothly and no real problems.
[04-Dec-2008 10:21:52] **andrewp> jrszenoss: I currently use the Nagios check_http plugin but getting away from that would be nice
[04-Dec-2008 10:22:41] **jrszenoss> andrewp: If you are just simply hitting a few pages you could create HttpMonitor datasources for each one, setting Host Name to the url you want to check rather than the default. This is burdensome for many sites/pages but works for reasonable number.
[04-Dec-2008 10:22:44] **atrawog> 2.3 is working fine. Except the ShowGraph ZenPack which won't install in 2.3.
[04-Dec-2008 10:23:35] **jrszenoss> andrewp: HttpMonitor is using check_http in the background to do the lifting. The datasource fields will look familiar if you've used check_http
[04-Dec-2008 10:23:42] **mrayzenoss> I'm still working on setting up the Community ZenPack site, I'm sure there are a bunch of simple fixes that could be applied to a lot of the ZenPacks to get them straightened out (like ShowGraph)
[04-Dec-2008 10:24:14] **mrayzenoss> I haven't announced it yet because it's not ready, but there is a Community ZenPack SVN/Trac site going up soon
[04-Dec-2008 10:24:14] **mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/
[04-Dec-2008 10:28:02] **andrewp> jrszenoss: I'll have to give that a try
[04-Dec-2008 10:30:14] **atrawog> mrayzenoss: Will the Community Trac site have different accounts than http://dev.zenoss.com ?
[04-Dec-2008 10:30:49] **mrayzenoss> unfortunately yes, we don't have single sign on for the Trac stuff yet
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:04] **mrayzenoss> I can make them use the same passwords and account names though
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:27] **mrayzenoss> eventually we'll have SSO for the website, forums, and trac
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:35] **mrayzenoss> right now just website and forums
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:42] **chudler> would there be any way to set an Escalate count on every event occurring under an organizer?
[04-Dec-2008 10:33:28] **mrayzenoss> so every time there is an event of a certain type, escalate?
[04-Dec-2008 10:33:59] **mrayzenoss> here's a patch for escalating severity based on the count of syslog: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3510
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:02] **malbon> hola folks
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:08] **mrayzenoss> greetings magnachef
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:13] **mrayzenoss> oops, malbon
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:31] **magnachef> I running Zenoss 2.1.3, but I'm finding an issue with devices that have multiple IPs, with multiple services bound to each IP (apache, lighttpd, mysql, etc). When I try and monitor the device via the management IP, it will see the services listening at the IPs, but those services will fail until I add the production IP that the services are listening on
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:41] **magnachef> greetings mray
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:05] **chudler> Has there been any thought towards defining templates in places other than the Devices tree?
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:31] **mrayzenoss> chudler: what are you proposing?
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:54] **jrszenoss> chudler: Not that I'm aware of. We have templates defined at the Monitors also, but that's sort of a special case.
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:58] **malbon> mrayzenoss: are there any JMX guru's here today?
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:10] **cgibbons> oh i bet we could find out.
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:12] **cgibbons> er one.
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:16] **chudler> Systems/Groups/Locations that have templates the same way that Devices do. I don't know how feasible it is.
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:23] **dcnoye> did someone log the meeting that was @ 11am ?
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:28] **mrayzenoss> malbon: I know there's one, sometimes he's shy
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:00] **chudler> It would solve some problems for me, such as organizing and monitoring things by system, even though they are running different OS/hardware.
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:07] **malbon> mrayzenoss: exellent best asset of a good programmer.
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:18] **mrayzenoss> dcnoye: I'm logging it. It'll be up later
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:27] **gf69> magnachef
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:39] **magnachef> gf69
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:39] **dcnoye> thanks mrayzenoss
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:42] **gf69> it maps my server...finally
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:53] **magnachef> nice...what was the issue?
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:17] **gf69> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/2455 halfway down this page
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:23] **malbon> ok, I have a small issue, one value is not being converted to an int, but it is being recieved by the zenjmx daemon properly. I have a pastebin here: http://pastebin.ca/1276008
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:27] **magnachef> does anyone have any thoughts about my question above? am I being clear enough?
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:31] **adytum-bot> Title: snmpwalk to remote address gives timeout | debianHELP (at www.debianhelp.org)
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:32] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1276008 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:48] **malbon> the 02 value is not being converted properly.
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:50] **gf69> had to go in /etc/default and edit the snmp file in there
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:58] **magnachef> ahhh
[04-Dec-2008 10:41:31] **jrszenoss> chudler: you can accomplish that now by defining templates at some common class higher up in the device tree then binding to devices on a case by case basis. This is one of those approaches that works okay for a few devices but would drive you mad if you tried to do this for dozens of devices.
[04-Dec-2008 10:42:15] **chudler> yeah, it works on a small scale.
[04-Dec-2008 10:42:58] **gf69> the file has a string with a 127.0.0.1 in it i took just the 127.0.0.1 out of it and it worked
[04-Dec-2008 10:43:07] **gf69> but
[04-Dec-2008 10:43:22] **gf69> i still cant get the colubris machine to work in it
[04-Dec-2008 10:43:50] **atrawog> magnachief: Best way is to define multiple devices in Zenoss and monitor every service on the IP address it is primarily running.
[04-Dec-2008 10:45:07] **malbon> so can anyone help me to find out why the value of 02 doesn't ever make it into an RRD file?
[04-Dec-2008 10:45:42] **magnachef> atrawog: unfortunately we have services running across multiple IPs
[04-Dec-2008 10:46:23] **magnachef> just due to the nature of our architecture
[04-Dec-2008 10:47:36] **malbon> here is another pastebin that clearly shows it isn't updating 02: http://pastebin.ca/1276018
[04-Dec-2008 10:47:47] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Dec-2008 10:49:53] **PCDudeX> Question - I'd like to be able to click a link on the device page that would display a graphic of the rack that the device is mounted on and display an indicator on the device to show its position. Is this doable?
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:03] **dcnoye> is there a debian repository for zenoss for etch ?
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:07] **PCDudeX> I'm using ver 2.3
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:50] **mrayzenoss> dcnoye: http://dev.zenoss.org/deb/
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:57] **adytum-bot> Title: Index of /deb (at dev.zenoss.org)
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:58] **dcnoye> thanks mrayzenoss
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:09] **mrayzenoss> PCDudeX: perhaps a zlink? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch10s17.html
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:21] **mrayzenoss> PCDudeX: you could use that to add a link to an image
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:35] **atrawog> magnachef:In most cases that doesn't make much of a difference. Because if a services dies listening on one IP it quite like stops working on ther other IPs too.
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:40] **mrayzenoss> PCDudeX: I also have a Zenoss/Deki mashup that would work for that
[04-Dec-2008 10:54:05] **chudler> mrayzenoss: that is very interesting. I started writing a flash app for zenoss to give datacenter map instead of google maps, but I am sure I won't have time to finish it.
[04-Dec-2008 10:56:07] **mrayzenoss> I wrote the Zenoss/Deki mashup for the LISA tradeshow, our booth was next to MindTouch. I'll put this up soon, my SourceForge project just got accepted. https://sourceforge.net/projects/zenossdeki/
[04-Dec-2008 10:56:11] **mrayzenoss> I'll blog it later
[04-Dec-2008 10:56:24] **adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss/Deki Mashup (at sourceforge.net)
[04-Dec-2008 10:57:10] **mrayzenoss> So to recap, things that I'm behind on: Zenoss/Deki mashup, Zenoss desktop tray applet and the Zenoss Community ZenPacks site
[04-Dec-2008 10:57:16] **magnachef> atrawog: but I have a one to one relationship with Services to IPs
[04-Dec-2008 10:57:31] **magnachef> not services across multiple IPs
[04-Dec-2008 11:00:18] **jplouis> malbon, can you get a screen shot of how you have the datasource configured?
[04-Dec-2008 11:00:55] **PCDudeX2> I'm back
[04-Dec-2008 11:01:11] **malbon> jplouis: yes sure.
[04-Dec-2008 11:02:05] **jplouis> malbon: what is the return type of the JMX operation you are calling?
[04-Dec-2008 11:02:27] **malbon> jplouis: hang on I'll get a screenshot.
[04-Dec-2008 11:02:42] **malbon> jplouis: email ok?
[04-Dec-2008 11:03:01] **jplouis> sure
[04-Dec-2008 11:05:38] **jplouis> malbon: The image didn't come through
[04-Dec-2008 11:05:50] **malbon> jplouis: hmm.
[04-Dec-2008 11:05:58] **jplouis> if you can open a ticket with the screen shot and the return type of the operation call I will look at it
[04-Dec-2008 11:07:02] **malbon> Ok, I've just sent it again anyway but this time as a jpeg.
[04-Dec-2008 11:09:18] **chudler> I am curious what (if anything) people are doing to prevent GET requests with user/pass logging when zenoss is served through apache.
[04-Dec-2008 11:11:22] **jplouis> malbon: got the image
[04-Dec-2008 11:11:34] **malbon> jplouis: cool.
[04-Dec-2008 11:11:53] **jplouis> malbon: maybe I don't understand the problem... I can see it is creating an rrd file for the 02 datapoint
[04-Dec-2008 11:12:00] **jplouis> malbon: DEBUG:zen.RRDUtil:create new rrd /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/ukubs-p01-dc02/FX-RDF-EUR_02.rrd
[04-Dec-2008 11:15:12] **malbon> jplouis: yes, it makes an rrd, but never provides an 02 value
[04-Dec-2008 11:16:01] **malbon> jplouis: if you have a peek at http://pastebin.ca/1276018 you'll see it only updates 04 12 and 14 values.
[04-Dec-2008 11:16:08] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Dec-2008 11:17:08] **mrayzenoss> jrszenoss needs to get going, so I guess we'll wrap this up pretty soon
[04-Dec-2008 11:17:11] **malbon> jplouis: I'll catch up with you tomorrow, I have to be somewhere else now. Thanks for looking into it.
[04-Dec-2008 11:21:31] **jb> hi
[04-Dec-2008 11:21:34] **jb> you guys still around?
[04-Dec-2008 11:21:46] **mrayzenoss> yeah, jrszenoss is checking out soon
[04-Dec-2008 11:22:19] **jb> kpg here today?
[04-Dec-2008 11:22:42] **mrayzenoss> don't see him, I can find him
[04-Dec-2008 11:22:47] **jrszenoss> Lunchtime here, catch you folks later.
[04-Dec-2008 11:23:52] **jb> hey kells
[04-Dec-2008 11:23:54] **mrayzenoss> says he's on his way
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:00] **kells> G'day, g'day!
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:03] **kells> What's up?
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:28] **jb> wondering if you could give me a copy of your snmpd.conf for AIX?.. im going to test your zenpack in dev.. net-snmp is killing me on some boxes.
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:37] **jb> im digging thru the forums trying to find it
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:49] **jplouis> malbon: if you run zenjmx in a cycle does it not eventually get a value? I don't believe the derive type stores the actual value, it stores the rate if change over a step period
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:05] **kells> It'll have to be a little bit more artful as I don't have an actual AIX box here.
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:09] **kells> Hold on for a sec...
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:13] **jb> ah ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:40] **jb> thanks
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:03] **kells> VACM_GROUP group1 SNMPv1 public -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:03] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:04] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView internet - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:04] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:05] **kells> # exclude snmpv3 related MIBs from the default view
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:05] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView snmpModules - excluded -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:06] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.4 - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:08] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5 - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:10] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:12] **kells> # exclude aixmibd managed MIBs from the default view
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:14] **kells> #VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.191 - excluded -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:16] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.191 - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:18] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:20] **kells> VACM_ACCESS group1 - - noAuthNoPriv SNMPv1 defaultView - defaultView -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:22] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:24] **kells> NOTIFY notify1 traptag trap -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:26] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:28] **kells> TARGET_ADDRESS Target1 UDP 127.0.0.1 traptag trapparms1 - - -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:30] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:32] **kells> TARGET_PARAMETERS trapparms1 SNMPv1 SNMPv1 public noAuthNoPriv -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:34] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:36] **kells> COMMUNITY public public noAuthNoPriv 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:38] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:40] **kells> DEFAULT_SECURITY no-access - -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:42] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:44] **kells> logging file=/usr/tmp/snmpdv3.log enabled
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:46] **kells> logging size=100000 level=0
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:48] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:50] **kells> smux 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.3.1.2.1.2 gated_password # gated
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:52] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:54] **kells> smux 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.3.1.2.3.1.1 muxatmd_password #muxatmd
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:56] **kells> smux 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.3.1.2.1.3 xmservd_pw # xmservd
[04-Dec-2008 11:30:00] **kells> You'll also need xmservd stuff set up in order to get some of the params from the MIB
[04-Dec-2008 11:30:15] **kells> The following should also show output: snmpinfo -m dump -v -c public -h localhost 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.191
[04-Dec-2008 11:33:28] **jb> sorry had to step away
[04-Dec-2008 11:33:41] **jb> the xmservd stuff?
[04-Dec-2008 11:34:39] **kells> The AIX performance toolbox client that used to be sold separately is now bundled with AIX as of errrr... at least 5.3
[04-Dec-2008 11:35:30] **jb> oh nice
[04-Dec-2008 11:35:37] **jb> just got to find that
[04-Dec-2008 11:35:37] **jb> hmm
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:03] **jb> looks like it needs to be installed separately?
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:22] **kells> There's a separate package in the AIX base install.
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:36] **kells> The entry in /etc/inetd.conf for it will be something like: xmquery dgram udp wait root /usr/bin/xmtopas xmtopas -p3
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:53] **jb> heh, yeah without the mib only returns 170 OID's
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:56] **jb> that seems low
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:04] **jb> ms1 - - -
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:05] **jb>
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:06] **jb> oops
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:17] **jb> root@fc-zenoss01:/tmp$ snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname .1 | wc -l
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:19] **jb> 170
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:30] **kells> Sorry, I don't have an AIX box lying around so you'll have to take what I say at the moment with a large block of salt.
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:46] **jb> haha ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:47] **kells> We're working on fixing that though.
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:48] **jb> no probs
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:58] **jb> zen needs to get you one
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:07] **jb> i would be willing to donate hardware
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:10] **jb> if needed.
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:35] **jb> just let me know who I need to talk to..
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:40] **kells> We're looking at picking up a basic desktop style box for simple sanity checking.
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:51] **kells> That would be Matt Ray
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:01] **jb> i actually have a b52 or whatever already boxed up sitting right next to me
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:04] **kells> Do you happen to have an HMC set up?
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:16] **kells> Oh cool!
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:18] **jb> yeah
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:24] **jb> do you guys need some b50's?
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:31] **jb> i know that they are old.. but they do AIX 5.3 fine
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:43] **kells> I think that would be quite helpful actually!
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:46] **jb> ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:48] **jb> i'll contact matt
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:17] **jb> yes, we have HMC's here
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:22] **jb> if you need me to test something
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:25] **mrayzenoss> jb: yes?
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:37] **jb> mrayzenoss.. i'd like to donate some IBM pSeries hardware
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:40] **jb> for testing
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:08] **mrayzenoss> jb: sounds great
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:27] **mrayzenoss> why don't you email me at mray@zenoss.com and we'll handle the details offline
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:28] **jb> want me to give you a call about it?
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:30] **jb> ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:46:21] **jb> will do..
[04-Dec-2008 11:55:31] **kells> Back to the salt mines for me! Thanks again JB!
[04-Dec-2008 12:13:37] **Firestar_> How do I configure ZenModeller _not_ to model a device every 12/whatever hours?
[04-Dec-2008 12:15:33] **magnachef> you can run it from cron, or change a variable in the config
[04-Dec-2008 12:36:25] **gf69> how do I get it to show multiple devices on the google map on the main page. I can only see where it has me put in the main device
[04-Dec-2008 12:36:52] **gf69> base location
[04-Dec-2008 12:49:26] LarsN is now known as LarsN-Away
[04-Dec-2008 12:58:36] **rhett__> is there a known problem w/ nested location appearing on google maps portlet?
[04-Dec-2008 13:11:42] **rhett__> has any one used the openlayer zenpack?
[04-Dec-2008 13:18:21] **mrayzenoss> gf69: on the Google Map portlet, go to the settings and change the Base Location to the sublocation you want, like /Locations/Denver
[04-Dec-2008 13:19:38] **mrayzenoss> rhett: there is a bit of an issue if you leave out parts of the map hierarchy: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3753
[04-Dec-2008 13:22:28] **rhett__> ah yes. i was trying to use L1 as an organizer for a specific location and branches of that location (two under L1 in my current case). then just used addressing for the lower levels
[04-Dec-2008 13:23:28] **rhett__> which im sure other ppl have done as well
[04-Dec-2008 13:24:13] **mrayzenoss> just make the L1 something general, like the state or city
[04-Dec-2008 13:24:36] **rhett__> will do
[04-Dec-2008 13:25:06] **rhett__> well look at that
[04-Dec-2008 13:25:09] **rhett__> its like magic
[04-Dec-2008 13:25:20] **mrayzenoss> I like magic
[04-Dec-2008 13:26:29] **gf69> how do I get it to show multiple devices on the google map on the main page. I can only see where it has me put in the base location
[04-Dec-2008 13:26:42] **blaylock> anyone know why zenmodeler fails to model a device but I can snmpwalk that same device with success?
[04-Dec-2008 13:26:52] **rhett__> :O well this makes my openlayer zenpack question moot
[04-Dec-2008 13:27:38] **mrayzenoss> gf69: It's just going to show the sub-locations under the /Location you specify
[04-Dec-2008 13:28:05] **mrayzenoss> so if you have 3 cities under /Locations it'll map the 3
[04-Dec-2008 13:28:18] **mrayzenoss> assuming they're all right off of /Locations
[04-Dec-2008 13:28:40] **mrayzenoss> and the devices need to be associated with a location
[04-Dec-2008 13:30:19] **gf69> devices are associated with locations
[04-Dec-2008 13:30:37] **rhett__> now all i have to is wait till 2.4 for this to work the way id like
[04-Dec-2008 13:30:39] **rhett__> thanks mrayzenoss
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:14] **mrayzenoss> rhett__: you can add yourself to the CC field to track the defect, and then patch your system when it goes in if you're feeling adventurous
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:39] **rhett__> im always living on the edge
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:39] **gf69> they are locations/new york/elmira locations/iowa/cedar falls amd locations/pennsylvania/gettysburg
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:48] **gf69> and*
[04-Dec-2008 13:32:46] **mrayzenoss> gf69: and nothing is mapping? Do you have addresses for /Locations/New York Iowa and Pennsylvania?
[04-Dec-2008 13:32:59] **mrayzenoss> like just the state in the address field?
[04-Dec-2008 13:33:25] **gf69> i have full street addresses of the 3
[04-Dec-2008 13:33:52] **mrayzenoss> yeah, that's like what I was just referring rhett__ to. You have to put something at each layer of the /Locations for it to map
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:08] **gf69> if i change the base location to locations/ it shows nothing
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:30] **gf69> if i change it to locations/statename it shows just the one in that state
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:53] **gf69> perhaps if i made a location called usa then put the states under it would that work?
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:54] **mrayzenoss> yeah, so it only maps the immediate next layer
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:00] **gf69> and changed it in each 1
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:16] **mrayzenoss> well, if you put in addresses for the 3 states, it should work
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:45] **mrayzenoss> since your hierarchy is /L1/L2 with 3 L1s and 3 L2s and no addresses in the L1s
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:48] **rhett__> yeah. a bit annoying. i was curious if say i have /locations/customers/1/site1 and site2 and i put site1 address in /customer and so on down the line will the pretty status dots be layered and i wont get a visual if say site1 goes down
[04-Dec-2008 13:36:41] **mrayzenoss> rhett__: so the devices don't bubble up?
[04-Dec-2008 13:36:50] **rhett__> exactly
[04-Dec-2008 13:37:12] **rhett__> if set the location to something general like CA or los angeles ca i got arbitrary bubbles
[04-Dec-2008 13:37:22] **rhett__> which i can live with but will be confusing to others
[04-Dec-2008 13:37:44] **rhett__> or is there a way that i dont know about to not show bubble for a certain location w/ an address
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:20] **rhett__> so dont show bubble for /location/customer/1 but show for /location/customer/1/site1 and site2
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:33] **mrayzenoss> hmmm... I'm looking at our demo server and it has /USA/Austin /USA/Annapolis /USA/Chicago and from /Locations it shows all the events below
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:44] **mrayzenoss> for the USA button
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:53] **mrayzenoss> and then when I click on USA it shows the 3 sites
[04-Dec-2008 13:39:06] **rhett__> hm
[04-Dec-2008 13:39:29] **mrayzenoss> USA has the address "United States"
[04-Dec-2008 13:39:52] **mrayzenoss> and each city is of the form "Chicago, Illinois, USA"
[04-Dec-2008 13:40:39] **mrayzenoss> and USA reports 10 subdevices and 3 subaddresses
[04-Dec-2008 13:43:14] **rhett__> k
[04-Dec-2008 13:44:32] **rhett__> oh well i can make this work. i will just have to reorganize once its fixed
[04-Dec-2008 13:44:38] **rhett__> but thanks for the help!
[04-Dec-2008 13:44:41] **mrayzenoss> np
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:15] **rhett__> it dosnt help most of the stuff i am looking at is within a 15 mile radius so any arbitrary points mucks up the map
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:37] **mrayzenoss> rhett__: perhaps the zip code?
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:47] **rhett__> hm
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:53] **mrayzenoss> or GPS coordinate?
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:57] **rhett__> yeah
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:05] **rhett__> i shall try
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:15] **mrayzenoss> good luck, I gotta run
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:23] **rhett__> k
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:25] **rhett__> thanks again
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:28] **rhett__> until next time
[04-Dec-2008 14:00:14] **gf69> i put in usa then moved new york/elmira under it and got an error
[04-Dec-2008 14:01:44] **jmp242> hey, can you autoclear info messages with a mapping in the same class say /App/Log that is a clear event?
[04-Dec-2008 14:09:29] **jmp242> anyone who's good with event mappings, and what might make changing an event mapping zProperty from history to status, or severity from info to clear would make it just disappear entirely? I.E. not showing up anywhere.... Or else I can't find it in history or Status views . ..
[04-Dec-2008 14:09:39] **gf69> for base if i put in locations/ it shows nothing
[04-Dec-2008 16:20:39] **gf69> got the colubris units mapped in zenoss as well
[04-Dec-2008 16:21:28] **gf69> now the boss gave me a list of like 50 to add lol
[04-Dec-2008 16:30:10] **gf69> if a device being monitored is on a dynamic ip, can zenoss detect that and set the new ip accordingly?
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:11] **flepper> hi there
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:14] **killing-joke> have the developers left for the day?
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:25] **killing-joke> hi flepper
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:29] **flepper> I have a question
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:34] **killing-joke> shoot
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:49] **flepper> I am monitoring a number of servers and have defined processes that need to be watched
[04-Dec-2008 16:44:10] **flepper> monitoring the server works, all of host mib works, performance graphs are drawn etc.
[04-Dec-2008 16:44:30] **flepper> but when I intentionally kill one of the processes that are being watched, this is not noticed by zenoss
[04-Dec-2008 16:44:43] **flepper> it seems that the frequency of the checks is (way) too low
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:04] **flepper> how is this intended to work?
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:27] **killing-joke> not noticed immediately?
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:32] **killing-joke> or not noticed after hours?
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:33] **flepper> right
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:46] **flepper> haven't waited more than hours
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:57] **flepper> what I need is near instantaneous notification
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:04] **killing-joke> did you write the monitoring script?
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:12] **flepper> er no.
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:19] **killing-joke> no problem
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:36] **flepper> I defined a regular expression to watch over snmp process table
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:09] **killing-joke> so you could harvest the table at 3:00PM, and at 3:00:01 the process could die.
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:18] **flepper> yes
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:29] **flepper> and to be honest I have no clue when it harvests
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:36] **flepper> that mechanism is unclear to me
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:40] **killing-joke> ah
[04-Dec-2008 16:49:15] **killing-joke> i'm looking at my setup
[04-Dec-2008 16:49:25] **flepper> thanks
[04-Dec-2008 16:51:46] **killing-joke> click on the IP or FQDN or the device
[04-Dec-2008 16:52:26] **flepper> ok
[04-Dec-2008 16:52:29] **killing-joke> down arrow, STATUS, hardware, software, etc in a bar across the top
[04-Dec-2008 16:52:42] **killing-joke> click down arrow, choose zProperties(s)
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:03] **killing-joke> whatever the h*|| those are
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:36] **killing-joke> see "zCommandCycleTime"?
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:44] **flepper> yes
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:55] **flepper> it says 60
[04-Dec-2008 16:54:04] **flepper> that looks like once a minute?
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:04] **killing-joke> try waiting more than sixty seconds, plus the connect time for the sockets, plus the python object time, plus the web server time
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:10] **killing-joke> maybe ... 75 seconds?
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:39] **killing-joke> if you have DNS that times out on certain lookups, that can really screw up this process
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:50] **flepper> I'd say that all zproperties that start with zCommand have to do with collection over the 'command' interface
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:56] **flepper> meaning colletion over ssh.
[04-Dec-2008 16:56:01] **flepper> which is not what I do
[04-Dec-2008 16:56:20] **killing-joke> ah. my misunderstanding.
[04-Dec-2008 16:56:48] **flepper> but I was on that same trail... there must be an interval to set somewhere
[04-Dec-2008 17:01:42] **killing-joke> is it possible that you are polling regularly and not checking the elements of the MIB that will generate an alert?
[04-Dec-2008 17:02:21] **killing-joke> that is, getting the process table, but not the right lines out if it?
[04-Dec-2008 17:04:37] **flepper> I am not sure
[04-Dec-2008 17:04:55] **flepper> I am doing some more testing now
[04-Dec-2008 17:08:22] **killing-joke> you can watch either of the interfaces with tcpdump, ethereal, wireshark, or some other sniffer on tcp/161 to see if the requests are coming at regular intervals
[04-Dec-2008 17:09:21] **killing-joke> any of them will expand the packet payload and decode it for you, so you can watch for changes (state transitions, processes coming/going, whatever)
[04-Dec-2008 17:10:11] **flepper> yeah that's a good idea to get some more insight
[04-Dec-2008 17:11:47] **killing-joke> mrayzenoss: did the devs leave?
[04-Dec-2008 17:12:10] **mrayzenoss> yeah, the session was a little earlier
[04-Dec-2008 17:12:12] **mrayzenoss> what's up?
[04-Dec-2008 17:12:38] **killing-joke> nothing important. i wanted to talk about bulk add/delete at the API
[04-Dec-2008 17:13:14] **killing-joke> thanks, though
[04-Dec-2008 17:13:18] **mrayzenoss> there are a couple scripts around, it's been on my backlog forever to write them up better
[04-Dec-2008 17:14:19] **killing-joke> i wrote a pair last night. fugly, but they worked. i now have 294 core devices all glowing green.
[04-Dec-2008 17:14:36] **killing-joke> i wanted to pull all the known IPs from the db
[04-Dec-2008 17:15:41] **mrayzenoss> getManagedIp()
[04-Dec-2008 17:15:47] **killing-joke> thanks!
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:01] **mrayzenoss> from the dev guide, chapter 6.5
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:24] **mrayzenoss> you can change the python script to return both the d.id and d.managedIp
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:33] **killing-joke> i'll check it out
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:35] **mrayzenoss> heh, there it is
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:38] **mrayzenoss> it's already there
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:50] **killing-joke> on disk?
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:53] **killing-joke> in the book\
[04-Dec-2008 17:19:18] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch05s05.html
[04-Dec-2008 17:19:32] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Dec-2008 17:19:45] **mrayzenoss> the example there is using the Zope REST technique, but you can set your dmd to the Devices context
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:20] **killing-joke> the code is JS? or Python?
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:28] **mrayzenoss> Python
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:33] **killing-joke> server-side
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:45] **mrayzenoss> yeah, you can stash a Python script on the URL
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:54] **mrayzenoss> but it's the same calls you'd make against the DMD
[04-Dec-2008 17:23:34] **killing-joke> adminRoles, devices, maintenanceWindows, ...
[04-Dec-2008 17:24:27] **killing-joke> am i supposed to "add" an "action"?
[04-Dec-2008 17:24:41] **mrayzenoss> >>> dmd.Devices.getSubDevices()
[04-Dec-2008 17:25:52] **killing-joke> thanks!
[04-Dec-2008 17:25:56] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/ExportDevicesToFile/
[04-Dec-2008 17:26:10] **adytum-bot> Title: Export devices to file - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Dec-2008 17:27:45] **killing-joke> ah HAH
[04-Dec-2008 17:27:49] **killing-joke> short and sweet
[04-Dec-2008 17:27:57] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I was over complicating it
[04-Dec-2008 17:28:08] **mrayzenoss> search.zenoss.com is pretty useful
[04-Dec-2008 17:30:13] **killing-joke> export ZENHOME=/opt/zenoss; zendmd; (type in some valid Python)
[04-Dec-2008 17:30:14] **killing-joke>
[04-Dec-2008 17:40:00] **killing-joke> that works very nicely, and requires no SQL
[04-Dec-2008 17:40:04] **killing-joke> thanks very much!
[04-Dec-2008 19:37:27] **gf69> if a device being monitored is on a dynamic ip, can zenoss detect that and set the new ip accordingly?
[04-Dec-2008 19:39:33] **gf69> magnachef
[04-Dec-2008 19:40:30] **gf69> if a device being monitored is on a dynamic ip, can zenoss detect that and set the new ip accordingly?
[04-Dec-2008 20:34:15] **gf69> damn devices still dont show up on the map
[04-Dec-2008 20:35:23] **gf69> they were in locations/new york/elmira and locations/iowa/cedar falls and i tried moving them to locations/new york and locations/iowa and it just shows world view
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[05-Dec-2008 00:48:51] **gf69> snmp_send: Failure in sendto
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:03] **gf69> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SnmpClient.py", line 93, in doRun driver.next() File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Driver.py", line 58, in next raise ex SnmpError: snmp_send
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:16] **gf69> it only does it on 1 device
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:27] **gf69> i added a device after this 1 n no eror
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:32] **gf69> error*
[05-Dec-2008 04:14:43] **chantra> hi there
[05-Dec-2008 04:14:56] **chantra> I would like to monitor bandwith using snmp
[05-Dec-2008 04:15:07] **chantra> but so far, I failed, what am i missing?
[05-Dec-2008 04:16:43] **chantra> oops, finally found it , simply click on the interface name
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[05-Dec-2008 14:52:39] **rhett_> hello. i added this graph http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/SmokepingishLatencyGraphs/ to /Devices/Servers/Linux and /Devices/Network/ and now under perf on /Devices/Servers/Linux i have the ping graphs but none of the other normal perf graphs are not there. any one have any ideas why this is?
[05-Dec-2008 14:52:54] **adytum-bot> Title: Smokepingish Latency Graphs - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
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[05-Dec-2008 15:36:21] **MAlexHerron> hey has anyone tried to install this Zapplett?
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[06-Dec-2008 07:32:55] **nemo2> cobbler
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[07-Dec-2008 18:23:43] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?
[07-Dec-2008 18:23:57] **gf69> sam ip
[07-Dec-2008 18:24:00] **gf69> same*
[07-Dec-2008 19:41:46] **gf69> how do i set zenoss to send an email if a device goes down or its ip changes?
[07-Dec-2008 22:27:02] **hednod> can zenoss reference /etc/hosts for dns, or does it REQUIRE dns hostnames?
[07-Dec-2008 22:27:25] **hednod> for example, i am running zenoss in a freebsd jail with an internal ip addres.. i would not normally give such an address a real dns hostname
[07-Dec-2008 22:27:38] **hednod> but zenping ignores network topology if it cannot resolve it's own hostname
[07-Dec-2008 22:33:58] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Dec-2008 22:34:21] **raddy> Can anybody suggest a good method to monitor tomcat process?
[07-Dec-2008 22:45:10] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[07-Dec-2008 22:45:49] **hednod> you can't expect an answer in 5 minutes on IRC, in a free support channel
[07-Dec-2008 22:45:53] **hednod> give it 24 hours
[07-Dec-2008 22:47:30] **raddy> hednod: 24hrs ? ha ha ha !
[07-Dec-2008 22:48:51] **hednod> raddy: thats right.
[07-Dec-2008 22:49:03] **hednod> raddy: you must be new
[07-Dec-2008 23:10:04] **monrad> or try the forums
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[08-Dec-2008 05:19:43] **jcookeman> hello there
[08-Dec-2008 05:19:56] **jcookeman> A Zenoss guru available?
[08-Dec-2008 05:30:42] **huggie> I'd suggest you just ask and see if anyone can help/is alive etc.
[08-Dec-2008 05:41:39] **jcookeman> Well, here goes. I've done a bit of reading in the Zenoss documentation and site. One of the biggest concerns we have (like most others) is alert consolidation or collapsing alerts based on tiers. From what I gather, Zenoss does provide the ability to handle this.
[08-Dec-2008 05:42:49] **jcookeman> However, we have many sites, and I was wondering how clever this logic is. Would I have to create alerting rules for every site, or is their flexibility to actually use dynamic data or custom fields assigned to devices to configure this behavior.
[08-Dec-2008 05:43:51] **jcookeman> One of the limitations we have with the current system is that we can configure different device tiers, but if you have 1000s of devices and 100s of locations, this becomes quite laborious and unmaintainable.
[08-Dec-2008 05:44:05] **huggie> I'm pretty much a ZenOSS novice but the only bits I saw about suppressing alerts based on dependencies was if zenping correctly mapped out the network for you.
[08-Dec-2008 05:45:29] **jcookeman> Well, from the site "Level 3 Topology awareness to correlate alarms across connected systems (helping avoid "alarm fatigue")"
[08-Dec-2008 05:51:34] **jcookeman> Another question I have is syslog integration
[08-Dec-2008 05:51:53] **jcookeman> is syslog transparent when it comes to alerting and reporting?
[08-Dec-2008 05:52:00] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
[08-Dec-2008 05:52:09] **jcookeman> as in is it just treated as another data source
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:15] **perr0> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0.el5.i386.rpm is whack
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:49] **perr0> [root@zenoss zenoss]# rpm -ivh zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0.el5.i386.rpm
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:49] **perr0> error: Failed dependencies:
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:49] **perr0> zenoss >= 2.3.0 is needed by zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0-160.i386
[08-Dec-2008 10:27:34] **perr0> I installed the zenoss-2.3.0 installer the pages says zenoss-core-zenpacks has no dependancies
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:04] **perr0> this is whack
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:26] **perr0> and then I get a bunch of other messages
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> [root@zenoss zenoss]# rpm -ivh zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0.el5.i386.rpm
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> 1:zenoss-core-zenpacks ########################################### [100%]
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> Installing /opt/zenoss/packs/ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg...
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenpack: line 19: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:29] **perr0> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenpack: line 20: /usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/zenpack.py: No such file or directory
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:33] **perr0> aight, I am out
[08-Dec-2008 10:33:39] **NoxIn-> perr0: you installed zenoss-2.3.0 using a .rpm or using the zenoss installer ?
[08-Dec-2008 10:35:30] **perr0> NoxIn-: this is my bad supposedly
[08-Dec-2008 10:35:32] **perr0> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8252
[08-Dec-2008 10:35:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Install Core Zenpacks via rpm error? (at forums.zenoss.com)
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[08-Dec-2008 11:18:24] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
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[08-Dec-2008 21:05:12] **krphop> oh man, zapplet?
[08-Dec-2008 21:05:13] **krphop> looks pimp
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[09-Dec-2008 02:48:07] **Gecko> Hey, I'm trying to add a device using the XMLRPC call documented in the developer's guide, however the device is not added... Is there anyting I can do to find out why?
[09-Dec-2008 02:58:53] **Gecko> Here's the error message from the log: http://www.pastie.org/334720
[09-Dec-2008 02:59:02] **adytum-bot> Title: #334720 - Pastie (at www.pastie.org)
[09-Dec-2008 05:51:49] **zabkar> hi
[09-Dec-2008 07:15:46] **Gecko> anyone awake?
[09-Dec-2008 09:27:02] **Quadro> hm
[09-Dec-2008 09:27:13] **Quadro> is there any access log around?
[09-Dec-2008 09:32:31] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
[09-Dec-2008 09:33:07] **gf69> perhaps a way for zenoss to map the network and show status of the devices it detects on the network?
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[09-Dec-2008 10:09:08] **jcookeman> Hi folks. I've been using Zenoss for two days now. So far so good. Now I have a question regarding alert tiering and de-duplication.
[09-Dec-2008 10:09:40] **jcookeman> What's the straight forward way to deduplicate alerts if say a site goes down?
[09-Dec-2008 10:10:20] **jcookeman> s/alerts/events
[09-Dec-2008 10:27:46] **jcookeman> Am I correct at looking upon zProperties?
[09-Dec-2008 10:55:08] **white_n_az> is this a place where I can ask a question?
[09-Dec-2008 10:57:53] **krphop> dont ask to ask, just ask
[09-Dec-2008 10:57:54] **krphop> :-)
[09-Dec-2008 10:59:13] **white_n_az> OK - following instructions here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/zenoss-plugins/ and trying to install zenplugin (python) on Macintosh (10.4.11)
[09-Dec-2008 10:59:28] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Plugins - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Dec-2008 10:59:49] **white_n_az> and can 'python setup.py build/install' but when I run the first command, I get an error
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:27] **white_n_az> I'll just paste the 5 lines...
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:33] **white_n_az> # /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/zenplugin.py --list-plugins
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:35] **white_n_az> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:36] **white_n_az> File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/zenplugin.py", line 49, in ?
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:38] **white_n_az> from zenoss.plugins.common import ApplicationError
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:39] **white_n_az> File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/zenoss/__init__.py", line 14, in ?
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:41] **white_n_az> __import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:42] **white_n_az> ImportError: No module named pkg_resources
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:54] **white_n_az> and I understand like nothing of python
[09-Dec-2008 11:01:22] **white_n_az> can anyone toss me a bone?
[09-Dec-2008 11:07:42] **jcookeman> white_n_az: Install Python setup-tools
[09-Dec-2008 11:10:14] **jcookeman> what platform are you running on?
[09-Dec-2008 11:11:22] **white_n_az> just got the cluestick on setup-tools and it sort of runs - platform ? meaning the zenoss collector? Linux
[09-Dec-2008 11:11:52] **jcookeman> Well if you said anything other than Linux you should be booted
[09-Dec-2008 11:11:56] **jcookeman> I meant which version
[09-Dec-2008 11:12:01] **white_n_az> 2.3.0
[09-Dec-2008 11:12:50] **white_n_az> now that I got it to run on the Macintosh, I'm a bit fuzzy on how to set up Zenoss to collect... is that in zProperties?
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:22] **jcookeman> If you did a default install of zenoss
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:26] **jcookeman> it will install the collector
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:29] **white_n_az> or do I take this 'egg' file from the Macintosh and import it as like a ZenPack?
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:32] **jcookeman> and it will automatically collect
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:49] **jcookeman> if you're on Linux you can do "yum install python-setuptools"
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:59] **jcookeman> or "apt-get install python-setuptools"
[09-Dec-2008 11:14:49] **white_n_az> I did a default install using the 'zenoss-stack' but I sort of wish I used the RPM (CentOS 5) instead but it seems to work ok
[09-Dec-2008 11:15:25] **jcookeman> it's fine
[09-Dec-2008 11:16:20] **white_n_az> so I presume now that I have the python-setuptools on both my Macintosh and my Linux server, I can restart the zenoss-stack and it should automatically collect from the Macintosh using SSH (providing I set up ssh properly?)
[09-Dec-2008 11:16:45] **white_n_az> is there any way to use 'authorized_keys2' instead of having to use ssh passwords?
[09-Dec-2008 11:22:54] **white_n_az> I just got some errors when I tried to 'model' it
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:47] **white_n_az> I'll paste a few of the error lines...
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:51] **white_n_az> "/usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/conch/ssh/tran
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:53] **white_n_az> sport.py", line 591, in ssh_NEWKEYS self.connectionSecure() File
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:54] **white_n_az> "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SshClient.py", line 149, in
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:56] **white_n_az> connectionSecure sshauth = SshUserAuth(self.factory.username, sshconn,
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:57] **white_n_az> self.factory) File
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:59] **white_n_az> "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SshClient.py", line 165, in
[09-Dec-2008 11:27:00] **white_n_az> __init__ user = os.getlogin() exceptions.OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid
[09-Dec-2008 11:27:02] **white_n_az> argument
[09-Dec-2008 11:34:12] **white_n_az> I'm using root password...perhaps that's the problem but I don't see in zProperties where the 'ssh' user is defined so I am guessing that it uses 'root' user
[09-Dec-2008 11:40:16] **gf69> magnachef...how are you today
[09-Dec-2008 12:08:43] **white_n_az> Question about upgrades (a different network) - Went from Zenoss-2.1 to 2.2 but never started 2.2 and then upgrade to 2.3 but the database missed the interim upgrade because I didn't realize that it had to be started up to upgrade the database- is there a way to fix it?
[09-Dec-2008 12:32:09] **magnachef> hey gf69 - not bad
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:05] **gf69> havin a couple minor issues with zenoss
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:18] **gf69> not so much issues as much as how to do...
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:38] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:38] **gf69> perhaps a way for zenoss to map the network and show status of the devices it detects on the network?
[09-Dec-2008 14:29:15] **jmp242> anyone ever have an event mapping cause events to disappear? They're not mapped to any event class for the device they are related to.
[09-Dec-2008 14:38:23] **white_n_az> $ zenplugin.py --list-plugins
[09-Dec-2008 14:38:24] **white_n_az> /usr/bin/python: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0: undefined symbol: rl_line_buffer
[09-Dec-2008 14:38:32] **white_n_az> anyone know how to solve?
[09-Dec-2008 14:40:11] **white_n_az> as root, command runs fine but not when I 'su - zenoss'
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[10-Dec-2008 04:18:16] **jcookeman> Hey folks. I'm trying to figure out the right path with "consolidating" or "deduplicating" or "correlating" events. What I'm trying to achieve is this: say a site goes down. How do I avoid generating significant events / alerts from 10 servers, 2 printers, 2 switches and 2 routers when a site becomes unavailable -- and only receive one alert that the site has gone down. It looks like this easily achievable, but I cant see how to approach it or what the
[10-Dec-2008 04:18:16] **jcookeman> recommended way is.
[10-Dec-2008 07:29:38] **jmp242> Can you clear an INFO event?
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[10-Dec-2008 09:50:13] **magnachef> jcookeman: it should dedeuplicate events by default
[10-Dec-2008 10:52:19] **Nate187> Is there any way to reference the interface properties (ifindex, macaddress, etc) in a data source command template in order to pass them as arguements to a script?
[10-Dec-2008 11:28:47] **magnachef> read this section: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/apcs01.html
[10-Dec-2008 11:29:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Dec-2008 11:55:47] **white_n_az> Collecting Macintosh (desktop systems) information...does anyone have any pointers? Windows collection is so much better...SNMP gives me very little, SSH gave me the RAM but nothing gets a software list like Windows collection (or the WMI Events which is nice) - would love to improve on Macintosh data collection if anyone has suggestions
[10-Dec-2008 11:57:30] **white_n_az> and I should point out that neither SNMP nor SSH is giving me space used on the Macintosh hard drives and I am getting not only '/' but also /.vol and /dev listings which are useless
[10-Dec-2008 12:00:56] **magnachef> you may need to make a collector plugin for that
[10-Dec-2008 12:01:03] **magnachef> ...or maybe someone else already has
[10-Dec-2008 12:02:24] **nemo2> white_n_az, pastebin your snmpd.conf
[10-Dec-2008 12:02:34] **nemo2> i get all stuff on solaris, linux
[10-Dec-2008 12:02:50] **nemo2> dont see why snmpd ( on a bad based system ) would be so different for the mac
[10-Dec-2008 12:04:59] **white_n_az> http://pastebin.com/m2999c83f
[10-Dec-2008 12:05:06] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[10-Dec-2008 12:05:26] **white_n_az> that is the relevant part I am using on the Macintosh systems
[10-Dec-2008 12:05:29] **magnachef> are you running net-snmp or a native Mac snmp (if one exists)
[10-Dec-2008 12:06:10] **white_n_az> it's whatever snmp that came with Macintosh OSX (they're all 10.4.11) - a few Intel systems - mostly PPC
[10-Dec-2008 12:07:58] **magnachef> http://macenterprise.org/content/view/329/77/
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:00] **white_n_az> by the way nemo2...Linux and Windows collection is awesome (except for WinNT 4 - but that's understandable)
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:08] **adytum-bot> Title: Macenterprise.org (at macenterprise.org)
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:25] **magnachef> maybe this will help some
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:35] **nemo2> white_n_az, i was just checking your system view
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:37] **nemo2> looks good.
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:51] **nemo2> you dont see it if you walk them ?
[10-Dec-2008 12:10:28] **white_n_az> see what if I walk them?
[10-Dec-2008 12:10:54] **white_n_az> I see a lot of stuff if I walk the Macs...
[10-Dec-2008 12:12:45] **nemo2> the disks ...
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:04] **white_n_az> I get the total size but not the space used
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:17] **nemo2> right .. i had that once
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:26] **nemo2> zenoss diagnosed it as a perf problem
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:54] **nemo2> zenperfsnmp didnt have enough cycle time, kept over running
[10-Dec-2008 12:14:18] **nemo2> are your event.log and zenperfsnmp logs clean , as in no perf warnings etc
[10-Dec-2008 12:15:08] **white_n_az> dunno...
[10-Dec-2008 12:15:46] **nemo2> what happens if you model the device a few times
[10-Dec-2008 12:16:00] **nemo2> if you get changes applied, keep doing it till no changes
[10-Dec-2008 12:16:36] **white_n_az> OK - I'm going to set my test Macintosh back to snmp (is on SSH) and try to collect a few times
[10-Dec-2008 12:22:40] **white_n_az> just modeled it 3 times (had to put the snmpd collector plugins back in) but it still showed 'unknown' in both the used bytes and free bytes for the hard drives ('/' and /.vol and both /dev drives)
[10-Dec-2008 12:23:03] **white_n_az> though it appears that when I 'walked' it, that there was a number...
[10-Dec-2008 12:23:47] **white_n_az> my manual walk shows HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageDescr.4 = STRING: /
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:03] **white_n_az> which I gather is the main drive - the root mount
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:18] **nemo2> what do you have in your fstab
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:22] **white_n_az> thus - this...HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.4 = INTEGER: 20102667
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:40] **nemo2> thats it , and you got other partitions in your fstab ?
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:56] **white_n_az> should mean the size and this...HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed.4 = INTEGER: 7366284 <- should be the amount used
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:17] **white_n_az> this is a Macintosh - I haven't a clue where a relevant fstab is located...
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:17] **nemo2> sounds good.
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:22] **white_n_az> # cat /etc/fstab.hd
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:23] **white_n_az> IGNORE THIS FILE.
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:25] **white_n_az> This file does nothing, contains no useful data, and might go away in
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:26] **white_n_az> future releases. Do not depend on this file or its contents.
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:26] **nemo2> /etc/fstab i bet
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:40] **nemo2> as you can tell, i dont have a mac
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:41] **nemo2>
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:42] **white_n_az> see above when I did a cat /etc/fstab
[10-Dec-2008 12:27:24] **white_n_az> anyway, it appears that the disk space is being returned in an snmpwalk v1 but zenoss isn't picking it up
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:08] **nemo2> well as i said, until you dont see changes applied, collection isnt complete
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:11] **white_n_az> and that seems to happen with all of the Macs
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:20] **nemo2> i often see this on new machines
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:28] **nemo2> get errors 110% full etc
[10-Dec-2008 12:31:45] **nemo2> i think its prob best to hook up with someone who knows more about macs
[10-Dec-2008 12:32:56] **white_n_az> when I tell it to 'model' - it still reports ' zenmodeler found protocol ssh' - I don't seem to get a zTransport option in zProperties like the documentation suggests that I should see...do I just take out the password so SSH fails so it reverts to snmp collection?
[10-Dec-2008 12:33:19] **nemo2> yeh i think so
[10-Dec-2008 12:33:31] **nemo2> sometimes zenoss db is just borked
[10-Dec-2008 12:33:52] **nemo2> needs a restart , remove pickle/ zec files
[10-Dec-2008 12:34:08] **nemo2> well i am still running 2.2.3
[10-Dec-2008 12:34:28] **nemo2> maybe its improved much, but i need stability
[10-Dec-2008 12:36:15] **white_n_az> I suppose I can restart zenoss but this problem has been continuing for many restarts of server/zenoss and the problem remains. I might need someone with more experience on Macs because I am using all of the snmp drive plugins because I don't know which works
[10-Dec-2008 12:36:34] **nemo2> well there are 2 different issues
[10-Dec-2008 12:36:40] **white_n_az> by the way...one thing I noticed right away about 2.3 - it was way faster than 2.1
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:03] **nemo2> i threw hardware at performance, that isnt my issue
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:13] **white_n_az> it does appear that it will try all types of collections (SSH and SNMP) if the collector plugins are enabled
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:37] **nemo2> i dont need false alarms and whatever, just makes my ppl very unhappy and they ignore zenoss
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:58] **white_n_az> agreed on the false alarms
[10-Dec-2008 12:38:30] **white_n_az> thanks nemo
[10-Dec-2008 12:39:07] **nemo2> no probs, good luck with it all, let me know how you get on
[10-Dec-2008 13:43:25] **Nate187> this zope stuff is confusing me
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:10] **Nate187> I'm trying to figure out how to reference a property on an interface
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:22] **Nate187> for a command template
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:41] **Nate187> i would imagine something like ${here/macaddress}
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:49] **magnachef> did you read through that link I sent
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:53] **Nate187> but nothing i've tried works
[10-Dec-2008 13:45:04] **Nate187> yes, i'm not seeing what i'm doing wrong
[10-Dec-2008 13:45:09] **nemo2> right there is a valid list of tales expressions at the end of the admin guide
[10-Dec-2008 13:45:17] **nemo2> is what you want in there ?
[10-Dec-2008 13:46:45] **Nate187> all of those are the properties of the device, I want to get a property from an interface on the device
[10-Dec-2008 13:47:34] **Nate187> i went to the device and added /manage to the url, selected os, then the interface and under the properties tab everything is there
[10-Dec-2008 13:47:51] **Nate187> i just don't know how to reference those in a tales expression
[10-Dec-2008 13:59:30] **nemo2> yeh i dont know either
[10-Dec-2008 13:59:41] **nemo2> sry
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[11-Dec-2008 01:23:43] **arfal> hi
[11-Dec-2008 06:11:34] **huggie> Hmm, can I report on Location? (especially blank location)
[11-Dec-2008 06:11:50] **huggie> here.getLocationName == "" saves ok but doesn't do what I want.
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[11-Dec-2008 09:47:03] **perr0> anyone know where zensyslog gets its parameters from?
[11-Dec-2008 09:47:22] **perr0> I need to disable dns or host name lookups
[11-Dec-2008 09:50:43] **NoxIn-> on my installation I have a /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zensyslog.conf
[11-Dec-2008 09:50:49] **NoxIn-> but it's empty
[11-Dec-2008 09:52:51] **perr0> right and in the admin manual they don't specify how to use this file
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:18] **perr0> or where you can specify additional commands for it
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:28] **perr0> thanks NoxIn-
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:47] **NoxIn-> right but ...
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:56] **NoxIn-> you can read the zensyslog.py
[11-Dec-2008 09:54:16] **NoxIn-> in /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents (in my install) and look where it parses it's options
[11-Dec-2008 09:54:54] **NoxIn-> but I don't see an option to remove the reverse lookup
[11-Dec-2008 09:56:04] **perr0> let me look
[11-Dec-2008 09:56:08] **NoxIn-> maybee --parsehost : "try to parse the hostname part of a syslog HEADER" but it seems to be allready off by default
[11-Dec-2008 09:59:25] **NoxIn-> "zensyslog help" as user zenoss to have the options
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[11-Dec-2008 10:24:50] **perr0> k thanks
[11-Dec-2008 11:43:13] **huggie> Oh a colleague found the answer for my report. here.getLocationName() == ''
[11-Dec-2008 13:51:21] **purevol> so whats up, anyone around here?
[11-Dec-2008 13:51:41] **magnachef> I'm around here somewhere
[11-Dec-2008 13:53:09] **purevol> i feel the same way
[11-Dec-2008 13:54:39] **purevol> maybe someone can point me to a location where i can read the answer, i have the admin guide, but im having a bit of a problem
[11-Dec-2008 13:54:53] **purevol> i loaded zenoss 2.3 on a VMWARE, Cent OS install
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:03] **purevol> got my devices discovered
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:12] **purevol> loaded up the mibs for some of my devices
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:31] **purevol> and then tooled with my devices, so i could send traps to zenoss
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:39] **purevol> nothing was showing up in events
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:07] **purevol> so i ran a packet capture, on port 162, and shonuff, the traps are being sent from the device to zenoss
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:20] **purevol> so i go and check out zentrap.log, everything there is apparently fine
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:30] **purevol> but i still dont have the traps
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:40] **purevol> no /Unknown, or anything
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:48] **magnachef> hmmm
[11-Dec-2008 13:57:10] **magnachef> is zentrap (or whatever the zenoss trap daemon) running?
[11-Dec-2008 13:58:18] **purevol> appears to be
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:07] **purevol> thats why im confused where to look next
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:13] **nemo2> mysql problem?
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:19] **nemo2> events go into mysql
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:53] **purevol> i would assume so, i did the experimental trap it shows in the admin guide, and it was populated into the Event Viewer
[11-Dec-2008 14:02:48] **purevol> the traps are being received by the machine, but i dont think they are doing anything
[11-Dec-2008 14:03:03] **purevol> or anything is being done with them rather
[11-Dec-2008 14:03:19] **purevol> the mibs are all installed
[11-Dec-2008 14:03:31] **purevol> as per the process
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:28] **magnachef> you should see traps even if the mibs aren't loaded
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:34] **magnachef> they'll just be unknown
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:40] **purevol> i figured as much
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:52] **magnachef> maybe community string?
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:55] **purevol> maybe i should remove the mibs
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:02] **magnachef> probably not the issue
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:03] **purevol> community string is default
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:27] **purevol> maybe i should look in mysql
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:39] **purevol> i have the packets captured coming in to port 162
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:49] **purevol> but thats all i get
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:54] **nemo2> is mysql up ?
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:07] **purevol> yes mysql is up
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:24] **nemo2> you see zero events ?
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:44] **purevol> no, i dont see zero events
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:51] **purevol> i see some events
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:59] **purevol> i dont see any snmp traps being sent from my devices
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:05] **nemo2> ok unlikely to be mysql then
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:24] **purevol> yeah, plus i was wable to do the send yourself a trap test
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:25] **nemo2> ok stop zentrapd ( does it really stop ? ) , if not kill
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:29] **nemo2> and start again
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:37] **nemo2> with run -v10
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:54] **nemo2> ie. not as a daemon, just running in the foreground
[11-Dec-2008 14:08:12] **nemo2> then look at its logs ( zentrapd)
[11-Dec-2008 14:08:24] **purevol> yeah i looked at that log, and it was fine
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:05] **purevol> how do i stop zentrapd from cli
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:10] **nemo2> are you filtering out at severity / ack/cleared
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:20] **magnachef> zentrapd stop (as zenoss user)
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:33] **purevol> werd
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:03] **PerlStalker> I had a weird UI issue come up. http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8354
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:07] **PerlStalker> Any ideas?
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:10] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2.4 UI problems (at forums.zenoss.com)
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:18] **purevol> i am doing no filtering
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:35] **purevol> and zntrapd stop doesnt work
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:40] **purevol> zentrapd
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:42] **purevol> that is
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:52] **nemo2> ok, at least you know it now
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:12] **purevol> its just zentrap
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:14] **purevol> stop
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:16] **purevol> not sentrapd
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:19] **purevol> err
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:22] **purevol> zentrapd
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:24] **nemo2> ok i get it
[11-Dec-2008 14:12:16] **purevol> ok, so i got it running in the foreground, so i should try to send the traps to it and see if it does anything?
[11-Dec-2008 14:12:24] **nemo2> yah
[11-Dec-2008 14:13:07] **purevol> http://pastebin.com/m2f71902a
[11-Dec-2008 14:13:14] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Dec-2008 14:13:36] **purevol> is it supposed to stop like that?
[11-Dec-2008 14:18:02] **purevol> i did that, and nothing
[11-Dec-2008 14:18:39] **purevol> no new events, even that stupid trap thing, says nothing, nothing is in the logs, etc
[11-Dec-2008 14:19:20] **purevol> ive been working on this since yesterday afternoon, and since i got up this morning
[11-Dec-2008 14:19:41] **purevol> maybe i should take a nap
[11-Dec-2008 14:36:56] **nemo2> yeah maybe
[11-Dec-2008 14:50:31] **purevol> so, did you see that paste?
[11-Dec-2008 14:50:36] **purevol> anythoughts
[11-Dec-2008 14:51:17] **nemo2> check any firewalls etc
[11-Dec-2008 14:51:34] **nemo2> zentrap looks to be running
[11-Dec-2008 14:51:55] **purevol> yeah like i said, i did a packet captures on port 162
[11-Dec-2008 14:52:24] **nemo2> what about event.log
[11-Dec-2008 14:54:29] **purevol> what about it?
[11-Dec-2008 14:58:04] **purevol> am i looking for anything in pariticular?
[11-Dec-2008 15:02:00] **purevol> http://pastebin.com/m43565aa4
[11-Dec-2008 15:02:07] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Dec-2008 15:02:07] **purevol> some weird conflict errors, in the db
[11-Dec-2008 15:07:54] **nemo2> i would stop zenoss ( kill if needed )
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:10] **nemo2> remove .zec and .pickle files under /opt/zenoss
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:16] **nemo2> and start zenoss again
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:22] **nemo2> things to do, good luck !
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:30] **purevol> alright thanks
[11-Dec-2008 15:30:06] **purevol> is there a file, i can tail will show me the incoming snmp traps?
[11-Dec-2008 16:19:13] **rigeld2> I've got the squid Zenpack installed, but the data its feeding me isn't right... Squid is reporting a max of 3.75Mb/s, when the box is doing ~80Mb/s right now.
[11-Dec-2008 16:19:39] **rigeld2> And all it does is squid, so all traffic through it is squid traffic.
[11-Dec-2008 16:24:48] **rigeld2> nevermind... While troubleshooting just now I restarted squid and snmp and its reporting more reasonable data, except for the fact tht it now says its running 4.31Gb of traffic in... on a 1Gb nic.
[11-Dec-2008 16:24:56] **rigeld2> I'll futz with it some more
[11-Dec-2008 19:47:24] **cli4me> I am fairly new to Zenoss, and have a question about email alerts
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:10] **cli4me> I find in the admin guide that there are TALES device attributes. I am trying to use one of these attibutes in an email message. Its not working
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:40] **cli4me> I am trying to use snmpLocation... I have tried ${snmpLocation} and %(snmpLocation)s
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:44] **cli4me> neither work
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:49] **cli4me> can any one assist?
[11-Dec-2008 19:52:19] **cli4me> anyone here?
[11-Dec-2008 19:55:25] **purevol> hello
[11-Dec-2008 19:57:26] **cli4me> hey
[11-Dec-2008 19:57:51] **cli4me> I dont suppose you can assist me with a question i have?
[11-Dec-2008 19:58:04] **cli4me> .. .regarding email alerts
[11-Dec-2008 19:59:45] **cli4me> anyone familiar with variables I can put into email alertds?
[11-Dec-2008 19:59:53] **cli4me> *alerts
[11-Dec-2008 20:01:02] **cli4me> I'll take that as a no
[11-Dec-2008 20:34:40] **purevol> i dont know that answer
[11-Dec-2008 21:39:47] **purevol> ;`what up what up
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[12-Dec-2008 03:20:15] **daphex> hi all
[12-Dec-2008 05:18:43] **cli4me> Anyone here this morning?
[12-Dec-2008 05:18:47] **cli4me> ?
[12-Dec-2008 05:20:21] **cli4me> I'll take that as a no
[12-Dec-2008 05:20:34] **cli4me> \quit
[12-Dec-2008 07:00:30] **daphex> i'm have noob question
[12-Dec-2008 08:50:29] **NoxIn-> daphex: don't tell you have a question ... ask your question
[12-Dec-2008 08:53:14] **ke4qqq> well I am having an interesting problem - Zenoss has stopped sending out emails - no change in alerting rules or anything. I have tried restarting sendmail, using the test email function (it works) and nothing seems to phase it. I have alerts going to multiple domains. I also tried changing the smtp server from localhost to a known working smtp server and still no mail.
[12-Dec-2008 08:54:47] **NoxIn-> ke4qqq: is it zenoss which don't send, or the mails are bloqued somewhere ?
[12-Dec-2008 08:55:11] **NoxIn-> fi you do "mailq" do you have emails in the deferred queue ?
[12-Dec-2008 08:55:50] **NoxIn-> do you have mail sending attemps in the log of the mail serveur ?
[12-Dec-2008 08:55:53] **NoxIn-> server
[12-Dec-2008 09:11:58] **ke4qqq> NoxIn-: mailq shows 0 attempts
[12-Dec-2008 09:12:09] **ke4qqq> and no they aren't getting blocked anywhere
[12-Dec-2008 09:12:36] **ke4qqq> tailing /var/log/maillog shows no attempts to send anything
[12-Dec-2008 09:12:48] **ke4qqq> hence my confusion
[12-Dec-2008 10:26:05] **nemo2> ke4qqq, isnt it zenmail something ?
[12-Dec-2008 10:26:11] **nemo2> the daemon ?
[12-Dec-2008 10:32:20] **ke4qqq> if there is a daemon by that name it doesn't show up in 'service zenoss status'
[12-Dec-2008 10:32:49] **ke4qqq> nor does ps seem to know anything about such a deamon
[12-Dec-2008 10:33:30] **ke4qqq> though there is a zenmail binary
[12-Dec-2008 11:38:42] **cmdln> good morning
[12-Dec-2008 11:39:17] **cmdln> I cant seem to find any documentation as to weather zenoss can be run with mod_wsgi does anyone know?
[12-Dec-2008 11:40:35] **mrayzenoss> I haven't heard anything about that
[12-Dec-2008 11:41:04] **cmdln> Is the standard practice to just use apache reverse proxy to connect to the zenoss internal webserver?
[12-Dec-2008 11:41:37] **mrayzenoss> Most people just use Zope for Zenoss and leave Apache out of it
[12-Dec-2008 11:44:05] **mrayzenoss> cmdln: what are you trying to accomplish?
[12-Dec-2008 11:45:20] **cmdln> i guess im just not familiar with zope
[12-Dec-2008 11:45:36] **cmdln> i was just going to run zenoss as i do other python web apps
[12-Dec-2008 11:45:46] **cmdln> with apache
[12-Dec-2008 11:46:36] **mrayzenoss> so Zope is a Python application server, handles all the Zenoss web stuff on port 8080
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:10] **rdb> I need some guidance: I'm trying to setup LDAP authentication on an Appliance installation of Zenoss, but it doesn't appear to have yum which the instructions use: (http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/)
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:20] **rdb> how should I best work around this?
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:25] **adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:55] **rdb> install yum? install openldap2-devel manually?
[12-Dec-2008 12:45:36] **mrayzenoss> I'm not finding an answer to that, I've found other people asking about it
[12-Dec-2008 12:46:03] **mrayzenoss> let me go bug somebody about it
[12-Dec-2008 12:46:14] **rdb> tried getting an RPM to install of openldap2, but there doesn't seem to be an rpm installer on the appliance either.
[12-Dec-2008 12:46:33] **rdb> mrayzenoss; thanks
[12-Dec-2008 12:51:12] **mrayzenoss> our conary expert seems to be out to lunch
[12-Dec-2008 12:52:01] **mrayzenoss> I'm not super-familiar with configuring it myself
[12-Dec-2008 12:52:14] **mrayzenoss> maybe you could post a new thread on the forums and I'll point him towards it?
[12-Dec-2008 12:52:26] **mrayzenoss> and in the meantime, maybe someone else will answer
[12-Dec-2008 13:01:07] **rdb> mrayzenoss: done, thanks (http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=29119)
[12-Dec-2008 13:01:13] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP Authentication on Appliance (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 13:38:29] **white_n_az> Question - I added SSH collection plugin for some Macintosh systems and it gives me some info lacking on SNMP but when they shut off their systems at night, I get a /Cmd/Fail error for User timeout. I hoped that I could automatically 'Clear' them by setting zProperties for /Cmd/Fail to zEventClearClasses to /Cmd/Ok but that isn't working...any suggestions?
[12-Dec-2008 13:40:25] **mrayzenoss> do the machines always get shut off at the same time? Maybe a maintenance window would work
[12-Dec-2008 13:43:53] **white_n_az> probably could do that - this is pretty much an 8-5 office but still, if the employee didn't show up some day, the failure would endure until it is acknowledged/moved to history
[12-Dec-2008 13:46:26] **white_n_az> I was thinking that like /Status/Ping events are cleared by /Status/Wmi/Conn - /Cmd/Fail would be cleared by /Cmd/Ok
[12-Dec-2008 13:57:51] **mrayzenoss> Maybe a forum post might elicit better responses?
[12-Dec-2008 13:57:55] **hoangelos> I have a cisco device that has multiple interface each interface comes up as a seperate device even after I model it
[12-Dec-2008 13:58:09] **hoangelos> how do I collapse those down show it's one device?
[12-Dec-2008 14:00:34] **white_n_az> forum might help...I've been searching for /Cmd/Fail but little is there
[12-Dec-2008 14:00:57] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: I'm searching for that, I've seen it before but can't find it
[12-Dec-2008 14:01:30] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: ok. I'm sure there was a way. After poking around I didn't see anything that made it obvious to me at all
[12-Dec-2008 14:05:31] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: go ahead and post a forum question, I'll try to get somebody to answer
[12-Dec-2008 14:05:57] **hoangelos> ok
[12-Dec-2008 14:08:01] **hoangelos> another question was more high level. two parts. can you monitor things like whether a particular webpage is up in the community version? second parts: is alerting part of the community version.
[12-Dec-2008 14:09:17] **mrayzenoss> yes and yes
[12-Dec-2008 14:09:32] **mrayzenoss> 1) http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[12-Dec-2008 14:09:46] **adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 14:10:02] **mrayzenoss> 2) http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch19.html
[12-Dec-2008 14:10:16] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 14:10:27] **hoangelos> sweet. thanks very much
[12-Dec-2008 14:11:09] **mrayzenoss> alerting is email/paging or you can use event commands to do just about anything else
[12-Dec-2008 14:18:34] **hoangelos> I don't know if this matters, in the issue of the cisco device I mentioned, but each IP is on a diff subnet and my network has each of the subnets listed as seperate networks
[12-Dec-2008 16:23:30] **hoangelos> so if I want to keep track of different virtual hosts as in www.domain.com and another.domain.com is that only in enterprise?
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[13-Dec-2008 02:50:51] **rhett> hello
[13-Dec-2008 02:52:59] **rhett> ive tried to add a graph for watchguard current active connections to /Devices/Network/Router/Firewall w/ a template name of Watchguard. When I add Datasource and test against the device i show no output and I get an error saying the OID is invalid but if I use the same OID w/ an snmpget to the same device I get the proper response. Any ideas?
[13-Dec-2008 13:25:06] **cli4me> is anyone here?
[13-Dec-2008 13:26:57] **cli4me> no one here, eh?
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[14-Dec-2008 07:02:58] **Nissim> hello all
[14-Dec-2008 07:03:38] **Nissim> hello all
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:04] **Nissim> Can anyone assist in configuring Zenoss ?
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:10] **Nissim> I have some questions
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:19] **Nissim> anyone ?
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:54] **Nissim> hello
[14-Dec-2008 07:05:41] **Nissim> anyone ?
[14-Dec-2008 07:34:42] **Nissim> hello
[14-Dec-2008 07:35:10] **Nissim> anyone ?
[14-Dec-2008 09:39:58] **jontebond_> Can Zenoss by default monitor network port on nodes?
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[15-Dec-2008 03:17:41] **janwari> Do we still need snmp agent when using SSH for remote monitoring as shown here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch14s01.html ?
[15-Dec-2008 03:18:00] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Dec-2008 03:51:52] **janwari> anyone there?
[15-Dec-2008 06:20:39] * janwari lurks in a quiet room
[15-Dec-2008 07:22:06] **janwari> seen _chris_
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[15-Dec-2008 10:58:35] **purevol> question
[15-Dec-2008 10:58:43] **purevol> i have all these mibs for this device
[15-Dec-2008 10:58:55] **purevol> and i want to use those mibs to get data from that device
[15-Dec-2008 10:58:59] **purevol> how do i do that in zenoss?
[15-Dec-2008 11:54:12] **mcpasdgarrett> Hi all
[15-Dec-2008 11:56:08] **mcpasdgarrett> I have zenoss setup to monitor a switch and I am little confused about the way the graphs work. When the range is set to Hourly I see a different Max then when the range is set to daily, monthly, weekly or yearly. Shouldn't the max stay constant as long as the the same max is included in the range?
[15-Dec-2008 11:57:07] **rhett_> purevol: copy the mibs onto the server then run zenmib --file pathtofile pathtodependency(if applicable)
[15-Dec-2008 11:58:53] **rhett_> mcpasdgarrett: that is more than likely due to the the graphs averaging the data rather than showing the actual max amount of byes/packets in/out of a port
[15-Dec-2008 12:00:11] **mcpasdgarrett> Does that mean the hourly is probably much more accurate than the weekly and so forth?
[15-Dec-2008 12:01:34] **mcpasdgarrett> And why is it called max if it is averaging?
[15-Dec-2008 12:05:04] **purevol> rhett - ive loaded all the mibs
[15-Dec-2008 12:05:20] **purevol> but how do i use them to get the data from the device?
[15-Dec-2008 12:06:15] **purevol> or does the device just send the oid to me? i want more than traps
[15-Dec-2008 12:07:48] **purevol> for example, i have a MIB, that has a bunch of OIDs and 4 Traps
[15-Dec-2008 12:11:09] **rhett_> purevol: oh, ok. you have to create datasources and graphs around those datasources to get the data using the vendor specific OID's
[15-Dec-2008 12:15:07] **rhett_> mcpasdgarrett: yes daily would be more accurate (if 5 min avg is being displayed). honnestly i am unsure if its displaying the average but that is usually the case.
[15-Dec-2008 12:18:07] **mcpasdgarrett> rhett: I am actually trying to find out the max bandwidth being used, so I want to avoid averages, any suggestion on how to do this?
[15-Dec-2008 12:19:06] **rhett_> hmmm
[15-Dec-2008 12:19:39] **rhett_> unsure honestly other than going through daily and seeing waht the 5minute max is
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:08] **rhett_> now that my head has cleared a bit i may be able to explain why the changes are different.
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:23] **rhett_> when you go to hourly daily weekly or monthly the graph resolutions are different.
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:33] **rhett_> daily being hte most accurate at 5 mins.
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:51] **rhett_> so the averages change since it is using a different time period to get the numbers
[15-Dec-2008 12:21:15] **mcpasdgarrett> ah ok
[15-Dec-2008 12:21:19] **mcpasdgarrett> that makes more sense
[15-Dec-2008 12:21:31] **rhett_> but as far as getting the 5 minute max over say a month? i am unsure how to do that :|
[15-Dec-2008 12:22:13] **mcpasdgarrett> so my best bet would be to use hourly and just scroll through the days because that will be the smallest polling interval.
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:05] **mcpasdgarrett> Not really polling interval but best resolution.
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:31] **mcpasdgarrett> rhett: thanks much that helped a ton.
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:33] **rhett_> exactly
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:35] **rhett_> np
[15-Dec-2008 12:27:59] **mcpasdgarrett> rhett: Have a good one!
[15-Dec-2008 13:02:34] **purevol> so the datasource can be my mib is that what you are saying?
[15-Dec-2008 13:13:52] **rhett_> purevol: more than likely you'll want to create a new template under the appropriate device class. once you are in there you'll want to create teh data sources w/ the proper OID and then the data point within that datasource. next you create a graph and bind the data sources to that graph. once that is all done you'll have to bind that template to the device or device class
[15-Dec-2008 13:14:27] **rhett_> also. once you create teh datasource (as long as dns is working properly) you'll want to use teh test options to test the oid against a device
[15-Dec-2008 13:14:42] **rhett_> well. bbiab gotta drive to the office.
[15-Dec-2008 13:45:23] **rhett> get it figured out purevol?
[15-Dec-2008 13:46:50] **purevol> well kind of
[15-Dec-2008 13:46:57] **purevol> i mean, i get what you are saying
[15-Dec-2008 13:47:23] **purevol> i just dont know what my data points would be
[15-Dec-2008 13:47:54] **purevol> i create a device class, performance template
[15-Dec-2008 13:48:03] **purevol> then i add a data source
[15-Dec-2008 13:48:20] **purevol> which is going to be the object that i want to collect information on
[15-Dec-2008 13:49:31] **purevol> i test it, that works
[15-Dec-2008 13:49:33] **purevol> so then waht
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[15-Dec-2008 14:10:00] **purevol> can i add a bunch of mibs to a specific class?
[15-Dec-2008 14:31:54] **rhett> you can create a template using the OID's from the MIB's and attach that to a class
[15-Dec-2008 14:59:02] **purevol> im not sure, i will try that
[15-Dec-2008 15:00:23] **purevol> so if i havve like 30 mibs i need the oids from them?
[15-Dec-2008 15:02:07] **purevol> or can i simple use the MIB browser to create the template?/
[15-Dec-2008 15:07:24] **purevol> you know what i mean, its like i got these MIBs, i want them all to be used for a specific device
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:12] **rhett> basically all a mib is used is translation to the oid
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:26] **purevol> right
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:32] **rhett> that didnt write out very well
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:35] **rhett> anyway
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:01] **rhett> as far as i am aware you cannot use the mib browser to create a template
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:11] **rhett> i always manually create the templates and graphs and such
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:17] **purevol> isnt the the oids are used to walk a specific device
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:37] **purevol> ok, well i can do that, its just going to be a bit of work
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:47] **purevol> second, how do you collect the data points?
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:53] **purevol> err, what are the data points
[15-Dec-2008 15:12:42] **rhett> well yes they are used to walk a device but thats only to get to the private part of the tree. you need to make the specific graphs and datasources for the vendor specific mib
[15-Dec-2008 15:13:03] **rhett> the datapoints are what stores the historical data (in an rrdtool)
[15-Dec-2008 15:15:27] **purevol> this is going to get complex, as there is an assload of data here
[15-Dec-2008 15:16:45] **rfort> anybody here good with Events?
[15-Dec-2008 15:16:57] **rfort> and changing the level of critical of messages that come in ?
[15-Dec-2008 15:18:45] **purevol> kinda, whats up rfort
[15-Dec-2008 15:18:56] **rfort> it might be a sequence issue - I just changed it and about to test it
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:05] **rfort> we upgraded from 2.1 ent to 2.2 ent
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:19] **rfort> I copied over one of the old Event's that we changed to raise it from "info" to "critical"
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:24] **rfort> switch/serial interface going down
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:37] **rfort> it's not catching it still, but I just changed the sequence, one sec going to test and see if that worked
[15-Dec-2008 15:20:57] **purevol> you can also modify the vent class mapping
[15-Dec-2008 15:22:23] **purevol> take a look at the zproperties in particular
[15-Dec-2008 15:25:28] **purevol> im no expert, just trying to contribute
[15-Dec-2008 15:45:55] **rfort> man I'm an idiot
[15-Dec-2008 15:46:03] **rfort> syslog-ng broke on the system -- that's why it wasn't working
[15-Dec-2008 15:46:51] **rfort> thanks
[15-Dec-2008 15:47:18] **rhett>
[15-Dec-2008 15:47:20] **rfort> yeah we wrote a custom script on it that it was using, which it was working just fine on that; the only issue is that IOS logging wasn't getting from the IOS device, through the collector, to the master server
[15-Dec-2008 15:47:46] **rfort> had to rebuild syslog-ng and problem fixed
[15-Dec-2008 15:48:37] **rfort> serial interfaces come up as critical alarms, fast/gig ports are just warnings
[15-Dec-2008 15:48:44] **rfort> so we had to write it to match words
[15-Dec-2008 15:59:33] **rfort> I'm out for the day. have a good one all
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[15-Dec-2008 17:26:43] **daMaestro> anyone know the permission that needs to be granted for the ZenUser role that will allow "regular" users to have links in their menus to things like the "event console"?
[15-Dec-2008 17:27:03] **daMaestro> i mean.. they have rights to view the damn thing, what needs to be done to make the link show up in the main menu?
[15-Dec-2008 17:27:13] **daMaestro> i can't seem to find anything\
[15-Dec-2008 20:23:24] **densone_> back in the day I read an article that showed how to run a nagios check_http script in zenoss. Anyone have the link to that,
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[16-Dec-2008 01:28:17] **janwari> anyone there ?
[16-Dec-2008 02:24:32] **Gecko> Ouch, zenoss didn't like that I bulk imported 500 devices...
[16-Dec-2008 03:53:47] **picachu> hi. I'm trying to do custom graphing and it doesn't work. The graph is empty. Where can I see what errors are thrown when graph is generated ?
[16-Dec-2008 03:55:09] **picachu> i'm using custom graph points and it's so sad that I can't use automatically data sources defined in device - have to specify them manually, like rrdfile= rrdPath/memAvailReal_memAvailReal.rrd
[16-Dec-2008 03:57:05] **janwari> conary update --resolve --test group-MySqlMonitor --install-label=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core throws ERROR:zen.ZenPackCmd:zenpack stopped: /zenpacks/MySqlMonitor*.zip does not appear to be a valid file or directory. Any ideas on how to fix it ?
[16-Dec-2008 04:31:59] **picachu> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/CreatingCustomCalculatedGraphsBasedOnMultipleDataPoints/ wheeeee
[16-Dec-2008 04:32:16] **adytum-bot> Title: Creating custom calculated graphs based on multiple data points - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Dec-2008 05:00:11] **daans> can someone help me with some isues I have with a hub and two collectors
[16-Dec-2008 05:01:40] **daans> ?
[16-Dec-2008 05:09:56] **sangriag> I am new to zenoss. I am trying to figure out whether zenoss can monitor the transactions of individual workstations in a network? If yes, is there any pointers or tutorial how can it be achieved?
[16-Dec-2008 05:11:39] **Gecko> what do you mean by transactions?
[16-Dec-2008 05:13:34] **sangriag> Gecko: I meant the monitoring of their usage of web and other services on every workstation basis
[16-Dec-2008 05:17:08] **sangriag> Gecko, to make it more clear. I am trying to monitor the usage of internet and other online services from each of the computer in LAN. There is a mix of computers from Windows to Mac, but all transactions passes through a single gateway.
[16-Dec-2008 05:18:02] **sangriag> I already have a running Zenoss.
[16-Dec-2008 05:20:05] **Gecko> I don't think zenoss is what you are looking for
[16-Dec-2008 05:20:48] **Gecko> Zenoss monitors the availability and performance of systems. You would be looking for something in the lines of ntop probably
[16-Dec-2008 05:26:12] **sangriag> Gecko: Thanks, let me check ntop then
[16-Dec-2008 05:39:32] **janwari> conary update --resolve --test group-zenpacks --install-label=zenos throws //tmp9rfkyB.trvscript: line 2: /etc/init.d/zenpacks-install: No such file or directory error. How can i install core zenpacks ?
[16-Dec-2008 05:57:31] **sangriag> Gecko: do you have any idea that ntop could be installed in a different machine to monitor other machines in the network without needing to do anything in the workstations?
[16-Dec-2008 06:02:08] **Gecko> sangriag: ntop monitors trafic as it flows through the machine. You just have to make sure that ntop gets the data it must analyze. You should refer to the documentation, as I am not an expert
[16-Dec-2008 06:21:45] **sangriag> Gecko: Thanks, but I am not sure whether ntop could be installed in a different server than gateway and monitor every workstations in the lan, still checking ;-)
[16-Dec-2008 06:23:37] **janwari> i can see Apache in OS tab but under Pref tab i dont see a chart for Apache. Is this normal ?
[16-Dec-2008 06:32:14] **mf2hd> hmm, can any1 pint me an issues/searchwords about recurring windows process events from process that shouldn't exists anymore in particular server? I can remember that there's multiple posts about it, but can't remember topics to search
[16-Dec-2008 06:32:30] **mf2hd> *point*
[16-Dec-2008 06:33:04] **mf2hd> iirc deleting and readding the device could help, but i would prefer some other way...
[16-Dec-2008 08:29:51] **Quadro> if i want to monitor a non-IP device, with a custom script, what should i look for?
[16-Dec-2008 08:32:06] LarsN-Away is now known as LarsN
[16-Dec-2008 08:52:18] **picachu> hey guys. I've installed Apache ZenPack, now how do I monitor apache with it ? I already have a couple of servers with apache running on them and they appear as httpd in OS/ip services.
[16-Dec-2008 08:56:18] **janwari> picachu: this will be helpful http://www.sysadminwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Setup_Apache_Monitoring_with_ApacheMonitor_ZenPack
[16-Dec-2008 08:56:32] **adytum-bot> Title: How to Setup Apache Monitoring with ApacheMonitor ZenPack - SysAdminWiki (at www.sysadminwiki.net)
[16-Dec-2008 08:57:25] **janwari> http://www.how-to-linux.com/2008/12/use-zenoss-to-monitor-apache-on-centos-52/
[16-Dec-2008 08:57:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Use Zenoss to Monitor Apache on Centos 5.2 | How To Linux (at www.how-to-linux.com)
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:30] **picachu> http://www.sysadminwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Setup_Apache_Monitoring_with_ApacheMonitor_ZenPack
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:34] **picachu> There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:43] **adytum-bot> Title: How to Setup Apache Monitoring with ApacheMonitor ZenPack - SysAdminWiki (at www.sysadminwiki.net)
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:46] **picachu> http://www.how-to-linux.com/2008/12/use-zenoss-to-monitor-apache-on-centos-52/ - doesn't tell me how to use ZEN
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:59] **adytum-bot> Title: Use Zenoss to Monitor Apache on Centos 5.2 | How To Linux (at www.how-to-linux.com)
[16-Dec-2008 09:06:06] **janwari> picachu: you have to have . at the end of the URL
[16-Dec-2008 09:06:22] **picachu> lolz
[16-Dec-2008 09:06:46] **picachu> bind the Apache Template - this is crucial
[16-Dec-2008 09:07:35] **picachu> what does it monitor, btw ?
[16-Dec-2008 09:08:05] **picachu> oh, i see now
[16-Dec-2008 09:08:18] **picachu> that's pretty cool. Exactly what I needed.
[16-Dec-2008 09:08:49] **picachu> btw, do you know any method of exporting, editing and then importing a graph definition ?
[16-Dec-2008 09:09:15] **picachu> i just exhausted after trying to create a custom graph and adding all those lines, grpints line by line.
[16-Dec-2008 09:09:24] **picachu> *i'm
[16-Dec-2008 09:10:54] **picachu> and btw, when clicking on template, i'm getting:
[16-Dec-2008 09:10:55] **picachu> Type: AttributeError
[16-Dec-2008 09:10:55] **picachu> Value: getBrokenPackName
[16-Dec-2008 09:13:21] **picachu> help! http://pastie.org/private/oyrhi4qdf8peulcrxms5q
[16-Dec-2008 09:13:28] **adytum-bot> Title: Private Paste - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[16-Dec-2008 09:27:12] **janwari> picachu: your way ahead of me man, i just started playing around with Zenoss 2 days ago
[16-Dec-2008 09:28:21] **picachu> i'm running pretty old version - 2.2.4 . the new one is 2.3
[16-Dec-2008 09:29:36] **janwari> i just downloaded the VM appliance from vmware.com,
[16-Dec-2008 09:29:45] **janwari> and tweaking the VM to suit our needs
[16-Dec-2008 09:30:03] **janwari> added apache to work with SSL and added modeling using SSH
[16-Dec-2008 09:32:49] **picachu> that's cool
[16-Dec-2008 09:33:04] **picachu> actually, apachemonitor auto-healed himself
[16-Dec-2008 09:33:12] **picachu> now it doesn't throw those errors
[16-Dec-2008 09:40:59] **picachu> hmm. unlocked httpd from updating & deletion, remodeled the server, now it started to throw those errors again.
[16-Dec-2008 09:41:26] **picachu> let's restart the bithie
[16-Dec-2008 09:58:55] **picachu> well, restart healed it.
[16-Dec-2008 11:57:57] **ke4qqq> /window 3
[16-Dec-2008 12:03:16] **densone> is there a tutorial on how to call a nagios script with zenoss
[16-Dec-2008 12:15:20] **rhett___> i am unsure
[16-Dec-2008 12:55:48] **magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
[16-Dec-2008 12:56:02] **adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Dec-2008 12:58:17] **krphop> can anyone give me links to places that explain how to use snmpwalk or snmptable in a template?
[16-Dec-2008 13:13:13] **rhett___> what are you trying to do exactly krphop
[16-Dec-2008 13:13:44] **krphop> basically, i have a bunch of info retuned from a custom OID, and dont want to create a datapoint for each value
[16-Dec-2008 13:13:45] **MAlexHerron> anyone hear of a fix for the trailing zero in trap OIDs issue in 2.3?
[16-Dec-2008 13:14:10] **krphop> for example, i want to read in all datapoints from a single datasource OID
[16-Dec-2008 13:14:44] **krphop> but i'm not really sure how multiple datapoints work inside a datasource
[16-Dec-2008 13:19:19] **rhett___> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/CreatingCustomCalculatedGraphsBasedOnMultipleDataPoints/ maybe this can be of some help?
[16-Dec-2008 13:19:33] **adytum-bot> Title: Creating custom calculated graphs based on multiple data points - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Dec-2008 13:36:46] LarsN is now known as LarsN-Away
[16-Dec-2008 13:37:11] LarsN-Away is now known as LarsN
[16-Dec-2008 13:59:32] **densone> magnachef, I found that nagios link online. Does this work with the latest version of zenoss. It did not make much sense.
[16-Dec-2008 14:02:59] **magnachef> it should
[16-Dec-2008 14:57:01] **Gecko> Hey, is there any way I can select all devices that have an acknowledged critical alarm (such as being down) and move them to a different production level?
[16-Dec-2008 14:58:49] **rhett___> go to the device list
[16-Dec-2008 14:59:02] **rhett___> i believe u can set production state from there
[16-Dec-2008 15:12:26] **densone> magnachef, the doc asks me to go to perfconf
[16-Dec-2008 15:12:43] **densone> I cannot find anything called perfconf, thats why I thought this doc was out of date
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[16-Dec-2008 15:20:25] **Gecko> rhett___: yes, but can I select only critical devices?
[16-Dec-2008 15:20:36] **Gecko> (I have quite a lot)
[16-Dec-2008 15:21:29] **rhett___> well u can see what the event summary is from the device list
[16-Dec-2008 15:21:41] **rhett___> unfortunately you cannot sort by event summary though
[16-Dec-2008 15:23:31] **Gecko> exactly
[16-Dec-2008 15:23:58] **rhett___> that is the easiest thing i can think of. sorry.
[16-Dec-2008 15:36:23] bob_yakamutzu is now known as dorferiferon
[16-Dec-2008 16:26:44] LarsN is now known as LarsN-Away
[16-Dec-2008 19:18:42] **densone> why will zenoss pickup something like MySQL, but not find a mongrel process
[16-Dec-2008 19:19:06] **densone> I feel like its really hard to configure something really simple like that
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[17-Dec-2008 04:34:39] **Gecko> I'll restate my question from yesterday: I have a lot of devices in my database, that all are imported without checking if they were down before importing, so I need to select all my hosts that are down and that particular alarm ack'd, and move them to another production level. I can select them at the device list, but I don't want to hand click 200 devices... Any smarter way?
[17-Dec-2008 07:21:41] **picachu> "send string" with "HEAD / HTTP/1.0\n\n" not working properly. zenoss just sends out \n\n instead of newlines
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[17-Dec-2008 20:42:03] **arfal> hello all
[17-Dec-2008 20:42:23] **arfal> does anybody have this problem on zenoss
[17-Dec-2008 20:42:24] **arfal> (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED). Check your username/password settings and verify network connectivity.
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[18-Dec-2008 05:35:38] **kim0> Hi .. Is it possible to add machines to be monitored from a cli tool ?
[18-Dec-2008 05:42:27] **huggie> zendisc should let you.
[18-Dec-2008 05:43:35] **huggie> zendisc run --now -d --monitor localhost --deviceclass "Some Class here" etc.
[18-Dec-2008 07:47:23] **janwari> any zenoss developer in here ?
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[18-Dec-2008 10:00:26] **jmp242> hey mrayzenoss
[18-Dec-2008 10:00:32] **mrayzenoss> Good morning
[18-Dec-2008 10:00:37] **jmp242> happy upcoming holidays
[18-Dec-2008 10:00:38] **mrayzenoss> Ian should be joining us shortly
[18-Dec-2008 10:02:52] **mrayzenoss> hopefully I can get a couple more Zenossians in the channel, usually there are lurkers but it's pretty empty around here
[18-Dec-2008 10:02:56] **jmp242> great! Any input on the Event Transform "area" that's been kicked around the forum
[18-Dec-2008 10:03:24] **jmp242> I've been finding that the most confusing part of a bunch of my recent local enhancement issuies
[18-Dec-2008 10:04:16] **mrayzenoss> I put up a wiki page
[18-Dec-2008 10:04:28] **mrayzenoss> put it on the events thread, let me find it
[18-Dec-2008 10:04:46] **jmp242> Oh, I probably have that and missed it in my e-mail
[18-Dec-2008 10:05:52] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/EventTransforms
[18-Dec-2008 10:06:07] **adytum-bot> Title: Event Transforms - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:11] **jmp242> I'm currently fighting event mapping as seen here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8288
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:20] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Syslog event that "disappears" (at forums.zenoss.com)
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:52] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I saw Chet's followup. Anything showing in the log?
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:57] **jmp242> I'm wondering if I ought to try and do the component transfrom in /unknown (as if I map one of the events it disappears) or put it in /App/Log for instance (where I want the events) or in the event mapping myself
[18-Dec-2008 10:08:01] **jmp242> err itself
[18-Dec-2008 10:11:44] **mrayzenoss> Unfortunately I don't have good advice on the transforms, I bugged Chet to look at it and he said it looked right. If something shows up in the log maybe we'll find something, but trying a different technique might be your best bet
[18-Dec-2008 10:11:55] **jmp242> hmmm ok.
[18-Dec-2008 10:12:06] **mrayzenoss> sorry
[18-Dec-2008 10:12:21] **jmp242> I'm wondering what my alternative might be - is there docs I've missed on how the syslogs are parsed
[18-Dec-2008 10:12:34] **jmp242> IE, maybe I can change the syslog format the agent sends out
[18-Dec-2008 10:15:43] **mrayzenoss> Anyone get a chance to upgrade to 2.3.2 yet?
[18-Dec-2008 10:16:10] **mrayzenoss> hopefully it nails a couple of the issues that have been bugging you
[18-Dec-2008 10:16:34] **jmp242> Is the plan to not support keeping old windows perf graphs?
[18-Dec-2008 10:17:09] **jmp242> because I don't know if I should hold off for 2.3.3 where presumably that would keep historical data, or push for 2.3.2 now that 2.3.x seems stable(r)
[18-Dec-2008 10:19:15] **mrayzenoss> just a sec, __ian__ is asking around
[18-Dec-2008 10:20:12] **janwari> is there a way in Zenoss to use SSL ?? i tried using Apache to ProxyPass it but in the login_form.pt it points to 127.0.0.1:8080
[18-Dec-2008 10:20:29] **janwari> is there a way to override the action of that form without having to hard code it ?
[18-Dec-2008 10:20:50] **__ian__> what version of Zenoss?
[18-Dec-2008 10:21:08] **janwari> latest i guess. downloaded it from vmware appliance
[18-Dec-2008 10:21:47] **__ian__> where in login_form does it point to 8080?
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:15] **__ian__> the answer is, yes, people have put Apache in front for SSL
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> This is how i have done it Install/Configure Apache to support SSL: (VMware Applicance VM)
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> conary update --resolve httpd --install-label=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> conary update --resolve mod_ssl --install-label=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> vi /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:23] **janwari> ServerAdmin janwari@bwc.org
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:25] **janwari> ServerName zenoss.bahai.org
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:27] **janwari> SSLEngine On
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:29] **janwari> SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/localhost.crt
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:31] **janwari> SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/localhost.key
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:33] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:35] **janwari> Options ExecCGI Indexes FollowSymLinks
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:37] **janwari> AllowOverride All
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:39] **janwari> ServerSignature On
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:41] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:43] **janwari> ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8080/
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:43] **adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at 127.0.0.1:8080)
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:45] **janwari> ProxyPassReverse / http://127.0.0.1:8080/
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:47] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:49] **janwari> Change Zenoss login form to give it an absolute action location:
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:51] **janwari> vi /home/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/skins/zenmodel/login_form.pt
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:53] **janwari> change the form tag to
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:55] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:57] **janwari> If the login_form.pt 's action is not changed then it redirects to http://127.0.0.1:8080/zport/acl_user...thHelper/login
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:00] **janwari> because of the ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in the Apache's vhost config.
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:02] **janwari> ohhh
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:04] **janwari> sorry,
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:06] **janwari> http://pastebin.me/494a78acd5d0f
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:08] **janwari> meant to pastebin it
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:14] **adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at 127.0.0.1:8080)
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:15] **janwari> in the action of it, because came_from point to the ProxyPass
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:21] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin.me - Share Code (at pastebin.me)
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:28] **__ian__> I've only seen people use a RewriteRule
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:41] **janwari> __ian__: but shouldnt proxy pass work too ?
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:44] **__ian__> RewriteEngine On
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:44] **__ian__> RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://${SERVER_NAME}:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/${SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P]
[18-Dec-2008 10:25:02] **janwari> ok will try that
[18-Dec-2008 10:25:04] **janwari> thanks
[18-Dec-2008 10:25:06] **__ian__> Zope's VirtualHostBase takes care of it
[18-Dec-2008 10:26:18] **realmelancon> i have a question about the Zenoss upgrade process with collectors.
[18-Dec-2008 10:26:51] **realmelancon> is there a specific sequence (collector1+collector2+ main console ?)
[18-Dec-2008 10:28:03] **realmelancon> anyone ?
[18-Dec-2008 10:28:12] **__ian__> realmelancon: Hang on, checking
[18-Dec-2008 10:28:25] **realmelancon> oups. thanks.!
[18-Dec-2008 10:31:25] **jmp242> Hmm, yes the transform doesn't seem to be picked up by /App/Log, so I'm trying it in the event mappings themselves
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:33] **jmp242> That did it
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:35] **jmp242> solved again
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:37] **jmp242> !!!
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:41] **jmp242> THanks mrayzenoss
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:45] **jmp242> and chet luther!!!
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:15] **mrayzenoss> jmp242: I barely did anything, but feel free to update the post to let everyone know your solution.
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:18] **jmp242> Part of your event mapping guide in the Admin Guide probably ought to give a discussion on scope of event transforms
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:39] **jmp242> that is, where you put an event transform vs where it will actually apply to a given event!
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:48] **jmp242> I'm going to post this to the forum
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:53] **__ian__> I believe there's actually a ticket open
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:57] **__ian__> I couldn't figure it out myself
[18-Dec-2008 10:36:07] **__ian__> and opened a ticket in a blind rage.
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:22] **realmelancon> ian: Thanks a lot. Please post it to the forum once you have the answer.
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:28] **__ian__> realmelancon: what version?
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:38] **realmelancon> from 2.2.4 to 2.3.2
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:59] **__ian__> using DistributedCollector?
[18-Dec-2008 10:39:11] **realmelancon> ian: yes.
[18-Dec-2008 10:39:53] **__ian__> You upgrade the main zenoss server. You then use the Update Hub and Update Collector menu items to update each hub/collector other than the original localhost/localhost ones.
[18-Dec-2008 10:39:59] **__ian__> Hey, look, __jason__'s here
[18-Dec-2008 10:40:18] **realmelancon> ian: well not sure if its called Distributed Collectors (this is core version)
[18-Dec-2008 10:40:37] **realmelancon> ian: its a remote collector.
[18-Dec-2008 10:40:37] **mrayzenoss> ahhh, you did it by hand?
[18-Dec-2008 10:41:53] **mrayzenoss> It looks like the release notes for 2.3.2 suggest doing the main server first, then the hubs and collectors
[18-Dec-2008 10:42:25] **mrayzenoss> I would assume this applies to a manually deployed remote collector
[18-Dec-2008 10:42:34] **realmelancon> mrayzenoss: Yes. by hand. OK. That makes sense.
[18-Dec-2008 10:43:16] **mrayzenoss> realmelancon: Did you follow the remote SNMP instructions? I'm always curious how well those work
[18-Dec-2008 10:44:20] **__jason__> Do you have a zenhub on the remote server or are those collectors talking to the hub back on the main zenoss server?
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[18-Dec-2008 10:44:43] **realmelancon> mrayzenoss: yes. and it works perfectly for me
[18-Dec-2008 10:44:48] zenossjason is now known as jasonzenoss
[18-Dec-2008 10:45:08] **realmelancon> jason: the collectors all talk directly to the main server.
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:12] **realmelancon> two things are bugging me at the moment. sometimes i cannot see performance graphs for collectors.
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:16] **jasonzenoss> It's a bit tougher in that situation. Updates to the hub on the main servers could in theory break communications with the remote daemons until you've updated them too. So the general answer is that you need to update both at the same time.
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:32] **realmelancon> then i log on the collectors and restart zenrender
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:46] **jmp242> I'm wondering - is it by design that event transforms do not inherit down the class heirarchy (or really anything doesn't seem to inherit down necessarily)
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:47] **jasonzenoss> I don't know specifically with the versions you are upgrading from/to if that's the case or not though.
[18-Dec-2008 10:47:57] **realmelancon> jasonzenoss: thanks. i will backup everything first, update central server, then the collectors.
[18-Dec-2008 10:48:34] **jasonzenoss> jmp242: zProps are the only thing that really inherit down the device class hierarchies I think
[18-Dec-2008 10:49:59] **realmelancon> thanks to everyone. got 2 go.
[18-Dec-2008 10:51:34] **jasonzenoss> Didn't earlier versions of zenoss allow event transformations to be defined on any event class? Maybe I'm thinking of something else, but I think that changed around 2.2 or so.
[18-Dec-2008 10:55:32] **jmp242> I thought so
[18-Dec-2008 10:55:45] **jmp242> I recalled that suddenly I was having issues getting transforms to apply
[18-Dec-2008 10:55:55] **jmp242> I think it either needs to be more obvious in the cocumentation
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:00] **jasonzenoss> I don't know offhand why that change was made.
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:03] **jmp242> or we need to get that working again for a class
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:18] **jmp242> it just feels in the UI like you put the transform in the class
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:24] **jmp242> and it applies to the mappings and events in the class
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:45] **jmp242> If not, I'm not really sure why there is a transforms UI for a class - when would it EVER get applied to an event mapped there?
[18-Dec-2008 10:57:28] **jmp242> Though it didn't seem to stop working with my /perf/filesystem transform(s)
[18-Dec-2008 11:07:54] **jasonzenoss> jmp242: Unfortunately they couple people who can probably best discuss mappings aren't around today. You might want to raise the subject again here after the holidays when we can drag them into the discussion.
[18-Dec-2008 11:09:15] **jmp242> great, I'm ready for a holiday break anyway
[18-Dec-2008 11:12:06] **mrayzenoss> Pretty quiet session, I believe we're going to wrap it up unless there are any last questions.
[18-Dec-2008 11:22:54] **mrayzenoss> Thanks to __ian__, jasonzenoss and jplouis for showing up, later everybody.
[18-Dec-2008 11:32:12] **MAlexHerron> did anyone hear the devlopers mention is 2.3.2 fixes the trailing zeros in snmp trap OID fields?
[18-Dec-2008 11:32:18] **MAlexHerron> is = if*
[18-Dec-2008 11:33:54] **__ian__> Is there a ticket for it?
[18-Dec-2008 11:34:46] **MAlexHerron> not sure, i know it was a common issue among those that use zen as a trap destination
[18-Dec-2008 11:34:56] **MAlexHerron> at least caused me to go back to 2.4
[18-Dec-2008 11:35:03] **MAlexHerron> ill see if i can track down a tick
[18-Dec-2008 11:35:40] **MAlexHerron> pardon 2.2*
[18-Dec-2008 11:38:01] **MAlexHerron> yeah it was ticket 3965
[18-Dec-2008 11:38:13] **MAlexHerron> looks like 2.3.2 fixes it
[18-Dec-2008 11:38:30] **__ian__> Yeah, it sounded familiar.
[18-Dec-2008 23:05:44] **krphop> i'm having some issues with trying to get hard disk stats in zenoss
[18-Dec-2008 23:05:57] **krphop> i've added a HardDisk template
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[19-Dec-2008 05:59:57] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[19-Dec-2008 06:00:36] **raddy> Can someone show more Alert Dependency examples?
[19-Dec-2008 06:06:56] **raddy> Anybody there?
[19-Dec-2008 06:45:48] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[19-Dec-2008 10:24:50] **Cosmin> anyone online?
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:00] **Cosmin> i have a question about routes
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:08] **Cosmin> under the OS tab for devices
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:19] **Cosmin> why arent all my routes in there?
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:33] **Cosmin> i have a few static routes and i do see them in there
[19-Dec-2008 10:26:17] **Cosmin> i noticed that its quering for mib .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.21.1.13 for example
[19-Dec-2008 10:26:26] **Cosmin> if i run it from command line i do get all my routes
[19-Dec-2008 11:28:47] **Cosmin> anyone?
[19-Dec-2008 11:47:28] **rhett___> hello
[19-Dec-2008 11:47:54] **rhett___> are you using v2c or v1 when you snmpwalk/get the device?
[19-Dec-2008 11:59:33] **Cosmin> me?
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:26] **Cosmin> i use snmpwalk
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:37] **Cosmin> i configured version 2c
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:46] **Cosmin> but i get the same results for 1 and v2c
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:50] **rhett___> ok
[19-Dec-2008 12:03:07] **Cosmin> you any clues?
[19-Dec-2008 12:05:36] **rhett___> not particularly. what type of router is it?
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[19-Dec-2008 14:22:28] **Cosmin> rhett its not a router its a linux machine
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[20-Dec-2008 16:17:21] **td-work> hello
[20-Dec-2008 19:27:26] **td-work> always this quiet in here?
[20-Dec-2008 21:27:44] **ke4qqq> td-work: no
[20-Dec-2008 21:30:57] **td-work> cool
[20-Dec-2008 21:31:40] **td-work> just reading up on zenoss....looks damn cool. been using nagios/netsaint for the last 10 years
[20-Dec-2008 21:32:07] **td-work> thinking about giving it a download
[20-Dec-2008 21:33:41] **td-work> so is all the collection done via snmp and wmi?
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:22] **ke4qqq> no but those are the main vectors
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:42] **td-work> ya, all was a bad word
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:45] **ke4qqq> there is also ssh and of course it supports any nagios stuff....so you can do connection based collection
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:52] **td-work> ya
[20-Dec-2008 21:36:50] **td-work> one thing nagios really does well (IMO) is the granular configuration capabilities, esp with notifications. zenoss have that granularity?
[20-Dec-2008 21:37:29] **td-work> i mean, with it's architecture, i can write any plugin i want to handle notifications, checks, etc.
[20-Dec-2008 21:37:43] **ke4qqq> yes
[20-Dec-2008 21:37:55] **td-work> cool
[20-Dec-2008 21:38:41] **ke4qqq> zenoss is awesome IMO - and I have used lots of nms packages....zenoss makes it easy to handle all of the more complex things
[20-Dec-2008 21:38:45] **td-work> last question (for a while): can I still get performance statistics with the community version?
[20-Dec-2008 21:39:36] **ke4qqq> yeah
[20-Dec-2008 21:39:43] **ke4qqq> the only difference between comm and paid
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:05] **ke4qqq> is that they give you some plugins - you can still do all of the stuff yourself - they just save you lots of time
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:10] **ke4qqq> and of course they support you
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:14] **td-work> ya
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:17] **td-work> that's cool
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:25] **ke4qqq> indeed Zenoss really gets F/LOSS
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:47] **td-work> F/LOSS?
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:58] **td-work> too lazy to google, sorry
[20-Dec-2008 21:41:28] **ke4qqq> Free Libre Open Source Software
[20-Dec-2008 21:41:51] **td-work> whoa, 15 yrs in the industry and have never seen/heard of that, lol.
[20-Dec-2008 21:42:09] **td-work> need to get out more apparently
[20-Dec-2008 21:42:28] **td-work> my M$ certified colleagues are keeping me down
[20-Dec-2008 21:42:44] **ke4qqq> just hang out on irc lots it'll keep you balanced
[20-Dec-2008 21:43:23] **td-work> lol
[20-Dec-2008 21:44:18] **td-work> thanks for your input, going to pull away from my wow playing here and go hack at this.
[20-Dec-2008 21:44:24] **ke4qqq> have fun
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[21-Dec-2008 10:49:47] **kim0> Hi, I want to create custom "device classes" (say asteriskSrv ) .. I could do that from the web UI
[21-Dec-2008 10:50:46] **kim0> what I couldn't do however, was to define its data collection methods (i.e. SNMP, CMD ... etc) I need to specify certain collection methods .. where do I do this please /
[21-Dec-2008 13:29:00] **kim0> ping
[21-Dec-2008 14:32:40] **td-work> pong
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[21-Dec-2008 15:01:35] **kim0> Hi .. I have some python agents on machines I want to monitor. I want zenoss to communicate with the agents and expose the results as availability data .. what's the way to do that ?
[21-Dec-2008 15:01:43] **kim0> any hints/pointers are appreciated
[21-Dec-2008 15:04:52] **kim0> td-work: ping again
[21-Dec-2008 16:38:36] **kim0> Is it more lively in European timezone morning ?!
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[22-Dec-2008 02:16:43] **kim0> Hi everyone .. I have my own proprietary servers that I want to monitor. What's the "best" way to talk to all of them using our custom protocol .. and return results to be interpreted as availability data ?
[22-Dec-2008 02:16:56] **kim0> Any pointers are highly appreciated .. thanks
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[22-Dec-2008 13:39:14] **TBKDan> I get this error when I attempt to delete/renamechange class on a device... any ideas how to manually delete the device? http://rafb.net/p/8fQLk029.html
[22-Dec-2008 13:39:21] **adytum-bot> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
[22-Dec-2008 13:44:21] **quentusrex23> I have 4 remote corporate offices. Is it possible to have a zenoss server at each location, and have the zenoss server at the 'primary' location pull all of the info from the other locations? So that the main location can monitor all of the other locations as well?
[22-Dec-2008 13:59:49] **TBKDan> Ok, I added the network that was originally giving it the error, and now I'm getting "site error" with even less info about wth happened. I just wanna friggin delete this machine >_<
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[22-Dec-2008 15:24:22] **kim0> any docs for zendmd ?!
[22-Dec-2008 15:25:02] **magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/search?SearchableText=zendmd&vid=5f14df96-aca4-46ab-a698-0c279f6977b2
[22-Dec-2008 15:25:17] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Website - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Dec-2008 15:25:35] **magnachef> there's a bunch of different things there
[22-Dec-2008 15:32:05] **kim0> magnachef:
[22-Dec-2008 15:32:07] **kim0> thanks
[22-Dec-2008 15:32:09] **kim0>
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[22-Dec-2008 19:28:21] **nonsenso> huh. new version of zenoss is out.. anyone running it yet?
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[23-Dec-2008 02:32:07] **raddy> Anybody there?
[23-Dec-2008 02:37:27] **bdenning> I'm here, but I won't be much good for questions. Just setting up my first install on Zenoss at the moment
[23-Dec-2008 02:37:35] **bdenning> *of
[23-Dec-2008 02:43:41] **raddy> bdenning: What processes you are monitoring?
[23-Dec-2008 02:45:37] **bdenning> Trying to install the MySQL plugin to see what db monitoring I can get it doing
[23-Dec-2008 02:46:03] **bdenning> need to get Zenoss monitoring Ubuntu servers with SNMP, but I'm kinda learning SNMP at the same time.
[23-Dec-2008 02:47:55] **bdenning> So far the installation is very easy, but currently reading the doco's on the Zenoss website to figure out how it all works. It's quite a learning curve coming from Nagios
[23-Dec-2008 02:52:08] **raddy> bdenning: I won't accept it as a learning curve at all comparing to Nagios
[23-Dec-2008 02:53:21] **bdenning> Well as I say I'm still in the process of setting things up, so maybe I'll find it's not that different once I find my way around the web interface.
[23-Dec-2008 03:17:13] **janwari> bdenning: are you using Zenoss on you intranet ?
[23-Dec-2008 03:18:13] **bdenning> currently have three virtual machines on my laptop, ie: just running it in a test lab at the moment
[23-Dec-2008 03:19:21] **janwari> if you are using it on the public network and concerned about security issues on snmp i would suggest looking at SSL and SSH setup for Zenoss monitoring
[23-Dec-2008 03:22:50] **bdenning> Can anyone point me in the right direction of information on how to configure the linux/snmp side of things? ie: what a working /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf file should look like?
[23-Dec-2008 03:25:24] **cratlk> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/apa.html
[23-Dec-2008 03:25:40] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Dec-2008 03:26:51] **bdenning> cratlk: ok I feel embarrassed now, I had been trawling the doco's (I promise) but somehow missed this. Thank you.
[23-Dec-2008 03:27:07] **janwari> bdenning: http://webaj.com/zenoss-2-0-core-installation-guide-centos-looks-network-and-server-monitoring-has-gone-web-2-0.htm
[23-Dec-2008 03:27:25] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.0 core installation guide for CentOS. Looks like network and server monitoring has gone web 2.0 | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[23-Dec-2008 03:28:12] **janwari> http://www.how-to-linux.com/2008/12/configure-a-centos-52-server-to-be-monitored-by-zenoss-using-snmp/
[23-Dec-2008 03:28:52] **bdenning> janwari: Hmm.. appears to be a dead link from my end
[23-Dec-2008 03:29:00] **bdenning> janwari: thanks though
[23-Dec-2008 03:29:07] **janwari> bdenning: trying viewing it through google's cache
[23-Dec-2008 04:20:24] **bdenning> janwari: All working now, thanks again for the help :-)
[23-Dec-2008 06:10:36] **janwari> bdenning: good work, glad i could help
[23-Dec-2008 09:22:17] **wassy121> I have a problem with zenoss monitoring large filesystems (1.5TB). TotalBytes is being shown as 229GB in os/filesystems/$mntname/viewFileSystem . Is this a known problem, or is there a good work-around?
[23-Dec-2008 09:22:34] **wassy121> version 2.2.4
[23-Dec-2008 09:24:10] **dorferiferon> Is there an answer to wassy121's question?
[23-Dec-2008 09:25:19] **wassy121> In zendmd running: 'find("$devname").os.filesystems.$mntname.totalBlocks' gives "60018934". However, a raw snmpwalk shows:HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.10 = INTEGER: 240075736
[23-Dec-2008 09:26:00] **wassy121> with hrStorageAllocationUnits set to 4096 Bytes.
[23-Dec-2008 09:26:58] **wassy121> It is showing a usage of 193%, when it is just under half full.
[23-Dec-2008 09:38:45] **wassy121> So, this isn't the same as http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1743171&group_id=12694&atid=112694 , as that net-snmp bug is only when filesystems are greater than 2TB (mine is 1.5TB). The snmpwalk shows correct data.
[23-Dec-2008 09:38:52] **wassy121> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/8464 - maybe this would do it?
[23-Dec-2008 09:39:06] **adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: net-snmp: Detail: 1743171 - 5.4 hrStorageSize overflow on large filesystems (at sourceforge.net)
[23-Dec-2008 09:39:28] **wassy121> Bah, no. That changeset is already present in 2.2.4.
[23-Dec-2008 10:15:48] **klinstifen> Morning...
[23-Dec-2008 10:16:06] **klinstifen> Got a quick question. Anyone available?
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:21] **klinstifen> Has anyone noticed since 2.1 that the graph line colors seem to have a built in transparency setting?
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:27] **klinstifen> I have two lines
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:31] **klinstifen> both set to FF0000
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:37] **klinstifen> yet the bottom line is lighter
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:45] **klinstifen> anyone else experiencing that?
[23-Dec-2008 10:20:18] **klinstifen> in previous versions you could manually specify the alpha transparency...but seems they have limited the color value to six characters
[23-Dec-2008 10:20:34] **klinstifen> so I can't even force a solid color
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:32] **klinstifen> Hey, Matt.
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:37] **klinstifen> Can I bug you for a quick second?
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:39] **mrayzenoss> Good morning
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:47] **mrayzenoss> (depending on where you are)
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:56] **mrayzenoss> sure
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:05] **klinstifen> east coast...so yeah still morning
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:30] **klinstifen> So I noticed that since ~2.1 that the line colors for graphs seem to have a built in transparency
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:44] **klinstifen> meaning if I have two lines and both are set to FF0000 the second one will be a bit lighter
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:50] **klinstifen> like a 50% transparency
[23-Dec-2008 10:28:11] **klinstifen> Is this by design or am I just seeing something quirky on my box?
[23-Dec-2008 10:28:36] **mrayzenoss> I believe there was some change to the alpha channel for RRDTool, I wonder if that's an unintended side-effect
[23-Dec-2008 10:28:53] **mrayzenoss> if you want to open a ticket with a screenshot, I can get it looked aat
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:22] **klinstifen> Do you have a url link for the ticket opening?
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:34] **mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:37] **klinstifen> Thanks
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:43] **mrayzenoss> zenoss/zenoss is the login
[23-Dec-2008 10:30:07] **mrayzenoss> I'll look for the ticket
[23-Dec-2008 10:52:48] **klinstifen> Ok, Matt, I created the ticket
[23-Dec-2008 10:52:51] **klinstifen> Thanks for the help
[23-Dec-2008 10:52:51] **mrayzenoss> thanks
[23-Dec-2008 10:54:53] **mrayzenoss> looks good, you can add yourself to the CC field to follow the ticket progress
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[23-Dec-2008 15:06:49] **klinstifen> anyone handy to answer an rrd question?
[23-Dec-2008 15:16:51] **klinstifen> i am trying to graph data from last week and this week
[23-Dec-2008 15:17:21] **klinstifen> i'd think i could just duplicate this week's def/cdef and then apply a shift, but it doesn't seem to work
[23-Dec-2008 15:17:25] **klinstifen> anyone tried this before?
[23-Dec-2008 21:55:28] **arfal> anybody have this error?
[23-Dec-2008 21:55:29] **arfal> Could not read the Windows event log (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED). Check your username/password settings and verify network connect
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[24-Dec-2008 04:45:50] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[24-Dec-2008 04:46:01] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[24-Dec-2008 07:06:38] **drolen> Bom dia
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[25-Dec-2008 06:08:23] **kim0> Hi everyone .. Is it possible to assign monitoring port 80 for example, over an entire device "class" ???
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[26-Dec-2008 00:07:36] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[26-Dec-2008 00:07:42] **raddy> Anybody out there????
[26-Dec-2008 00:22:33] **raddy> Anybody there?
[26-Dec-2008 02:20:59] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[26-Dec-2008 03:08:26] **cratlk> Yes. go on raddy
[26-Dec-2008 04:16:03] **dalfz> i have an issue where a cisco router may crash due to snmp from my zenoss, where do i pause collecting data for this device?
[26-Dec-2008 05:04:45] **raddy> Anybody there?
[26-Dec-2008 09:05:25] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[26-Dec-2008 09:05:33] **raddy> Anybody there???
[26-Dec-2008 13:11:42] **magnachef> I'm here
[26-Dec-2008 13:12:00] **kim0> that's great
[26-Dec-2008 13:12:51] * kim0 was starting to think this room was 100% dead
[26-Dec-2008 13:13:24] **magnachef> heh, probably is...I was responding to raddy (who may or may not be lurking still)
[26-Dec-2008 13:18:24] **kim0> Is it possible to assign monitoring a port (80 for example), over an entire device "class" ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:18:53] **magnachef> generally it should detect it if you have, for example, apache running
[26-Dec-2008 13:19:10] **magnachef> but if it doesn't, you can do it via the dmd interface
[26-Dec-2008 13:19:54] **magnachef> but this has been a want of mine for some time - being able to model processes and IPServices at the device/system class level
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:06] **kim0> magnachef: So basically I'd need to write a loop to run through all devices add ports to be monitored and processes to be monitored ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:14] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:17] **kim0> phew
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:23] **magnachef> or you can maually do it
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:27] **kim0> I've been searching for a week
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:39] **kim0> but I could not believe such a feature would not exist
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:45] **magnachef> same here
[26-Dec-2008 13:21:03] **magnachef> correct - it doesn't exist through the interface
[26-Dec-2008 13:21:16] **kim0> dmd doesn't count
[26-Dec-2008 13:22:41] **magnachef> I agree. You should be able to say: "Add port 80 monitoring on all devices currently and added in the future under /Devices/Linux/Webservers"
[26-Dec-2008 13:22:53] **kim0> Exactly
[26-Dec-2008 13:22:59] **kim0> added in the future is the keywork
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:03] **kim0> keyword*
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:21] **magnachef> I think I posted something a while back in the dev forums
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:28] **kim0> I seriously hope the devs are gonna add this soon ..
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:44] **kim0> they must have a bug open for this one
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:11] **kim0> magnachef: if you please, I'd like to ask another question. I have some custom apps running on solaris servers. I got solaris' SNMP daemon to expose some custom data over snmp
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:27] **kim0> now .. I want to monitor this data from zenoss .. I'm kinda lost what I'd need to edit
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:38] **kim0> from a high level overview ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:47] **magnachef> first I'd check to see if there's a zenpack for it
[26-Dec-2008 13:25:09] **kim0> probably not .. coz it's a totally custom app
[26-Dec-2008 13:25:26] **kim0> my company writes it
[26-Dec-2008 13:25:51] **magnachef> ahh
[26-Dec-2008 13:26:22] **magnachef> well, you'd probably have to create a device class
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:36] **kim0> magnachef: then make a template and bind it to that class ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:41] **magnachef> then you'd have to customize the Templates tab
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:47] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:54] **kim0> that should be all ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:28:19] **kim0> would I need a custom data collector
[26-Dec-2008 13:29:18] **magnachef> you would need to define the OIDs
[26-Dec-2008 13:29:40] **kim0> all of this could be done through the webUI right ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:29:45] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:00] **kim0> then when is it needed to write code
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:14] **magnachef> You'll need to edit the performance template with the datasource, thresholds, graph definitions, etc
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:29] **magnachef> well, if the collector is a script you will
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:48] **magnachef> if you're using SNMP, then that's built in, and you just define the OIDs you need to poll
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:55] **kim0> perfect
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:08] **kim0> one tiny little thing now
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:12] **magnachef> that's all under Data Sources unders the performance template
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:27] **kim0> the only way I could find to visually show what I'm collecting .. is via rrd graphs
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:42] **kim0> Can one make a green LED like the ping status zenoss uses for example ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:32:04] **kim0> that's because the data I'm monitoring is mostly boolean yes/no .. so graphs are kinda funny for it ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:32:52] **magnachef> well, you'll add devices to your custom device class, and all the zenoss status stuff will be there by default
[26-Dec-2008 13:33:27] **magnachef> probably wouldn't want to graph that then
[26-Dec-2008 13:33:44] **magnachef> but you would want to set the threshold section though
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:00] **magnachef> and that'll generate a red event if you get the undesired value
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:19] **kim0> so .. if everything is OK .. I see nothing
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:27] **kim0> if something goes wrong .. something will go red ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:27] **magnachef> correct
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:35] **kim0> what would go red
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:48] **magnachef> yeah, if you set up the thresholds properly
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:48] **kim0> an event you say
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:59] **kim0> well .. that would work
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:05] **magnachef> yeah, just like if an OSProcess isn't running
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:19] **kim0> but ideally .. would it be possible to define some other visualization other than graphs
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:31] **kim0> like green/red blocks
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:45] **kim0> that color according to thresholds being crossed or not
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:03] **magnachef> that will happen in the device view
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:10] **magnachef> or on the portal
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:22] **magnachef> I mean "Dashboard"
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:46] **magnachef> you can create a dashboard for those devices, that will show if they're red, yellow, green, etc
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:03] **kim0> but that's for the whole device
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:12] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:16] **kim0> I wouldn't know which sensor exactly went wrong
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:23] **kim0> without reading the alerts
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:33] **kim0> well .. if that's the way it is . then ok
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:57] **magnachef> I don't totally understand your situation, so I'm not sure of the best way for what you want to do
[26-Dec-2008 13:38:53] **kim0> magnachef: well .. in one case .. I am checking a solaris zfs filesystem is "writeable" .. and exposing that over SNMP as (1 = writeable .. 0=not-writeable)
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:16] **kim0> Ideally ... I'd want a green something for OK .. a Red something for not writeable
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:18] **kim0>
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:36] **kim0> graphing that is funny to say the least
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:50] **magnachef> sounds like you should setup your snmp to send traps based on that
[26-Dec-2008 13:40:11] **magnachef> well, graphing could be useful in terms of trending downtime
[26-Dec-2008 13:40:20] **magnachef> but yeah, not totally great thing to graph
[26-Dec-2008 13:41:43] **kim0> magnachef: I wanna say a BIG Thank you
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:02] **magnachef> no problem!
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:07] **kim0> are you a zenoss dev .. or a community member
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:08] **magnachef> ...and good luck
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:13] **magnachef> community member
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:17] **magnachef> just some dude
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:20] **magnachef>
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:29] **kim0> you're great
[26-Dec-2008 14:05:22] **fang0654> Can anyone tell me how to debug the web frontend for zenoss not starting up the server?
[26-Dec-2008 16:46:32] **kim0> magnachef: Hi again .. would you by any chance have a few nice zendmd scripts that add different checks to devices. I plan to use them as a starting point
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[29-Dec-2008 02:26:33] **bitmonk> hello, i wonder if anyone else has considered trying to port the zenoss install code to zc.buildout, or try to rely on debuntu-installed python dependencies? i am making progress, just wonder if there is anyone i might compare notes with..
[29-Dec-2008 02:26:45] **bitmonk> plan to compose an ML post once i have something worth saying other than 'please help' ;d
[29-Dec-2008 02:26:49] **bitmonk> though i may do that as well heh
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:00] **bzed> bitmonk: there's al (now outdated) effort to package zenoss for Debian
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:23] **bzed> bitmonk: the problem is that we can't introduce zope 2.8 into debian again
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:39] **bzed> and zenoss doesn;t even work with zope2.9
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:45] **bzed> at least not properly
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:01] **bitmonk> sure, i'm trying to use my zope chops to develop a zope-style install for the zope-bits of zenoss, depending on various complex python2.4 deps installed by debuntu
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:11] **bitmonk> zope dep is no problem i can install 2.8.8 in a buildout
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:13] **bitmonk> maybe..
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:24] **bitmonk> actually seem to have issues with cAccessControl but will work through
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:55] * bitmonk is a bit of a plone / zope expert and wants to do some work with a mixed plone / zenoss stack
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:08] **bzed> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-zenoss/ if you want to look
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:13] **bitmonk> i know that zenoss is in dark ages of zope2 right now but i can still probably experiment with plone2 or 2.5
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:16] **adytum-bot> Title: Repository - directory - pkg-zenoss (at svn.debian.org)
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:24] **bzed> but that's pretty much debian specific
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:29] **bzed> will work on ubuntu, too...
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:30] **bitmonk> yah again not so interested in the pkg interested in folks trying to do a source build using modern zope techniques
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:33] **bzed> but... outdated
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:45] **bitmonk> just that the source installer builds all this crud from source that i can install
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:48] **bitmonk> as python deps
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:58] **bitmonk> no worries though i'll do an ML post
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:58] **bzed> the deps are available as packages
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:01] **bzed> almost all of them
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:04] **bitmonk> yes, but the installer doesn't allow
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:05] **bzed> or all of them
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:07] **bitmonk> sure i can fix the pkg
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:13] **bitmonk> anyway, you clearly aren't getting my goal
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:15] **bitmonk> no big man
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:16] **bitmonk> don't worry
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:22] **bzed> hmm
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:25] **bitmonk> it's a zope thang
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:30] **bzed> maybe I don;t understand your goal
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:45] **bzed> getting rid of the zenoss isntaller is a good thing in any case
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:54] **bitmonk> basically zenoss, mostly a zope app, doesn't use very modern means of preparing zope code
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:00] **bitmonk> that's surely inline with not even working on zope 2.9
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:06] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:20] **bitmonk> but that doesn't mean that zope 2.8 code can't use modern deployment technique, as i use for plone 3.1 and 2.5 on zope 2.10 / 2.9 respectively
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:45] **bitmonk> and if i could line that all up, in the next year i mix find a mix of zenoss and plone that work and develop, say, a portal with ecommerce that feeds zenoss config and access..
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:47] **bitmonk> or whatever
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:03] **bzed> sounds like a good idea
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:06] **bitmonk> just trying to find if anyone else is on a similar path
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:09] **bitmonk> yah noone seems to disagree
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:25] **bzed> although I'm not sure if it works
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:33] **bitmonk> well i don't doubt
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:35] **bitmonk> i want to help
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:41] **bitmonk> i just probably need to get active on ML and stuff
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:00] **bzed> as *if I remember right, not sure* zenoss ships with some of the CMF stuff, and you need more recent versions for plone.. which will break zenoss
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:03] **bitmonk> basically a lot of work i do will need modification of core code in minor ways, but like, across ZenPacks or something.. to modernize python / zope style
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:10] **bitmonk> yes yes i know about all those details
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:13] **bitmonk> i'm talking future
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:22] **bitmonk> plone community knows CMF better than zenoss
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:29] **bitmonk> talking about helping zenoss grow into 2006
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:44] **bitmonk> but like trying to avoid a fork yanno, not only doesnt help anyone, but a big pain
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:52] **bitmonk> lots of security and perf fixes in the past 5 years
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:56] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:59] **bitmonk> or whatever
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:01] **bitmonk> 2.8 is old
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:06] **bitmonk> my years are all off pretty late ;d
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:10] **bzed> I'm not sure why the zenoss devs are still stuck with such old code
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:12] **bitmonk> but the point clear i think
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:16] **bitmonk> well it's a big pain
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:30] **bitmonk> but my experience in working with the plone chain of progress can help me to help zenoss walk a similar path
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:32] **bitmonk> perhaps more quickly
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:57] **bzed> they told me more than a year ago thay they'd want to upgrade to a recent version of zope, or something similar
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:59] **bitmonk> zenoss is like just shy of plone2.0-land zope code, and in 2.5 there was a lot of advancement, and a lot of mistakes..
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:07] **bitmonk> yah i need to get on list and see who wants to help
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:24] **bitmonk> basically anyone willing to accept patches for this purpose would be good, i can write code that'll work in multiple zope ver
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:35] **bitmonk> it's not fun but it's not rocket surgery
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:57] **bzed> probably contacting their community manager helps
[29-Dec-2008 02:38:16] **bzed> they usually accept patches and suggestions via the bug tracker
[29-Dec-2008 02:38:27] **bzed> if I remember right it has an anonymous login, too
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:02] **bzed> I have an account for it since I dropped a lot of bug reports
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:08] **bitmonk> well i need more than just patch acceptance
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:14] **bitmonk> they make a lot of progress while i try to patch things
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:18] **bitmonk> i need people interested in cooperating
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:28] **bitmonk> i can do the work just need them to work with me on merging zope compat with new dev
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:37] **bitmonk> i'm like totally fogged on what happens between vers
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:44] **bitmonk> trunk is an enigma wrapped in deli paper
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:29] **bzed> I'd suggest to contact them directly
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:37] **bitmonk> well the list is a start
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:42] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:44] **bitmonk> that's what i'll do
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:46] **bitmonk> see if anyone cares
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:50] **bitmonk> then we can private mail
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:55] **bitmonk> maybe someone lives in san francisco!
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:00] **bitmonk> :-D
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:03] **bitmonk> or the bay
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:07] **bzed> good look with it!
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:12] **bitmonk> yah thanks
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:26] **bzed> in case you manage to get it up to zope2.10 or zope3 or anything else uptodate, please let me know
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:29] **bitmonk> basically i got a build to run by disabling one bit of the makefile and installing that deb
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:31] **bzed> I'd love to finish the debian packages
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:35] **bitmonk> but i really installed almost all of it as debs
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:49] **bitmonk> buildout is a zope-style / setuptools-based tool for building a zope environment..
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:52] **bzed> I put a lot of work into it.. and I'm a bit pissed that it's still not completed
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:09] **bitmonk> but i'm not even sure that the pollers and whatnot need buildout, they might want to be eggs, so then you can install them on a node that has nothing else..
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:33] **bitmonk> well keep in touch, maybe i can help, what i am producing would be a better developer environment at very least, then comes deployment..
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:38] **bitmonk> plone debs are probably based on buildout
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:42] **bzed> no
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:47] **bitmonk> contact me using email form at bitmonk.net or vongogo.net
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:53] **bzed> debian uses dzhandle to do the stugg
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:57] **bzed> stuff
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:02] **bitmonk> yah i could surely learn from you
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:03] **bitmonk> no doubt
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:07] **bitmonk> would love to help
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:08] **bzed> which was written by some ubuntu and debian developers
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:10] **bitmonk> did you get my pm with email?
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:22] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:47] **bitmonk> please email me, i'd love to keep in touch
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:57] **bitmonk> i think our paths are intended to cross
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:18] **bitmonk> i am interested in debuntu deployment, but also in zope-style-ness, would like to help you learn about the other side and perhaps come to improve general style..
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:25] * bitmonk probably knows whoever wrote dzhandle
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:35] **bitmonk> i can probably drink that sucker under the table
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:39] **bzed> bitmonk: doko started with it
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:45] **bitmonk> oh i dont know doko
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:49] **bitmonk> but i probably know someone
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:57] **bitmonk> and drunk them under the table at a plone conf! :-P
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:00] **bzed> haha
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:04] **bzed> kobold?
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:07] **bitmonk> wiggy?
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:17] **bzed> hmm... not sure if wiggy had his fingers in it
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:18] **bitmonk> (wichert?)
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:22] **bitmonk> yah i dunno
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:25] **bzed> I think he stopped doing debian stuff before
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:28] **bitmonk> i'm sure he had words with the folks tho
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:35] **bitmonk> he's spent years talking up debian plone pkgs to me
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:42] **bzed> haha
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:44] * bitmonk and wiggy aren't brethren
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:46] **bitmonk> :-P
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:52] **bitmonk> though i think we respect one another at a distance
[29-Dec-2008 02:46:04] **bitmonk> like limi
[29-Dec-2008 02:46:12] * bitmonk shudder at thought of googlimi
[29-Dec-2008 02:46:41] **bzed> dzhandle is nice as it does all the ugly stuff for you.. like setting up a zope or zeo instance.... and install products into them
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:01] **bitmonk> well
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:04] **bzed> but it could be improved for sure
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:05] **bitmonk> buildout does that stuff better
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:14] **bitmonk> based on virtualenv
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:19] **bitmonk> maybe dzhandle handy
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:20] **bitmonk> i dunno
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:26] **bitmonk> not a big fan of letting OS touch my zope
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:35] * bitmonk set up acm.org and siggraph.org on zope
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:49] **bitmonk> RHEL5 knows how to give me a /usr/bin/python2.4 and shut the hell up ;d
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:55] **bitmonk> er RHEL4 as it were with ACM
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:56] **bzed> the problem is that if you distrubute plone or something similar with a distribution
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:09] **bzed> people expect to apt-get install plone and have a working system afterwards
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:15] **bitmonk> oh i agree
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:18] **bitmonk> i dont decry these solutions
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:20] **bitmonk> i just won't use them
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:27] **bitmonk> i think that expert solutions need to live aside
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:30] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:31] **bzed> definitely
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:32] **bitmonk> it's more dangerous than using a distro apache pkg
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:46] **bitmonk> i mean i have charged $35k to install a plone cluster
[29-Dec-2008 02:49:04] **bitmonk> that includes a relative guarantee that as long as they don't break python, os upgrades won't break it, or espescially delete their database.
[29-Dec-2008 02:49:28] **bitmonk> but that's not to say i shouldn't get involved in dzhandle dev (esp if wiggy isn't!) and become responsible for as well as comfortable with its' behaviour.
[29-Dec-2008 02:50:13] **bitmonk> (also a lot of that charge was for this jerkass IT mgr constantly screaming "i dont care what it costs! just do it!" and changing his mind every 6.5 hours)
[29-Dec-2008 02:50:26] **bitmonk> (but i earned every dollar and used the money to move from TX to CA even if povertously ;d)
[29-Dec-2008 02:50:32] **bzed>
[29-Dec-2008 02:51:50] **bzed> dzhandle is not really maintained at the moment I think
[29-Dec-2008 02:52:52] **bitmonk> hm
[29-Dec-2008 02:53:40] **bzed> last year kobold and me spent a lot of time on it more than a year ago
[29-Dec-2008 02:53:56] **bzed> s/last year//
[29-Dec-2008 02:56:20] **bzed> we fixed a lot of bugs and added zeo handling stuff
[29-Dec-2008 03:03:34] * bitmonk would like to help z3-ify
[29-Dec-2008 03:03:51] **bitmonk> honestly zenoss can gain a lot by skipping zope 2.9 and going all the way to 2.11
[29-Dec-2008 03:03:55] **bitmonk> no reason to use an intermediary version
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:05] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:11] **bzed> and it shouldn't make a big difference
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:18] **bitmonk> newer zope learned a lot from plone
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:19] **bzed> as they have to rewrite a lot of stuff for it anyeway
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:22] **bitmonk> and i learned a lot from plone abou tmoving
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:23] **bitmonk> yah
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:32] **bitmonk> i'd love to share what i know and help zenoss rawk
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:51] **bitmonk> i think it can become the foundation for kicking the butt of something like Sun xVM Ops Manager
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:03] **bitmonk> esp given my experience @ Rackspace
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:11] **bzed> hehe
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:39] **bzed> would be good for zenoss
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:43] **bzed> I really like it
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:51] **bitmonk> yah zenoss is a nice platform
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:55] **bzed> but at the current state... I wouldn't use it I have to admit
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:04] **bzed> I don;t want to be stuck with zope2.8
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:18] **bitmonk> well zope 2.8 not so bad but yah upgrading would be a huge painless advantage
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:21] **bitmonk> performance, reliability, etc..
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:25] **bitmonk> still all python 2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:29] **bitmonk> so only the Zope apis should be a concern
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:54] **bzed> another thing... most distros ship 2.5 as default now
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:17] **bitmonk> just seems to me so much info is input for systems to monitor in zenoss, i could just generate systems config, provision VMs and physical systems, VM servers, storage, network assets, etc..
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:22] **bitmonk> yah but all have 2.4 avail
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:25] **bitmonk> all zope uses 2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:30] **bitmonk> so, that's zope-life
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:36] **bitmonk> 2.11 may actually work with 2.5
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:44] **bitmonk> but python 2.4 should work, i think
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:46] **bitmonk> maybe not
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:48] **bitmonk> 2.10 for sure
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:05] **bzed> hmm if I remember right even zope2.10 works with python2.5 now
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:08] **bitmonk> i think at least it makes sense for zenoss to step forward into whatever the latest it can use for python 2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:12] **bitmonk> maybe so
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:16] **bzed> or debian and ubuntu patched it to do so
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:25] **bitmonk> yah not sure if i'd go that route
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:26] **bzed> I have to admit I didn;t look into ti for some time
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:56] **bzed> or it was just patched not to use /usr/bin/python but ..python2.4 instead
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:59] **bitmonk> that's why i prefer using ubuntu python2.4 and python-libxml2 python-imaging python-virtualenv etc.. and then just virtualenv into a buildout and let setuptools and zope community take me from there..
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:00] **bzed> no clue
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:05] **bitmonk> yah that's what i do
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:13] **bitmonk> i patch easy_install and virtualenv to use /usr/bin/python2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:23] **bzed> I hate setuptools from a package view...
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:34] **bitmonk> well not everything can be an os pkg
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:34] **bzed> it's *SO* broken
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:41] **bitmonk> allows us to do dep resolution within a python app
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:46] **bitmonk> which we can do in any dir of the os
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:49] **bitmonk> compartmentalized
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:51] **bitmonk> pretty handy
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:54] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:02] **bzed> but not useable for packages
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:07] **bitmonk> zenoss takes that to an extreme by installing its' own python and mysql and every library ;d
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:23] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:24] **bitmonk> potentially, actually, such a tool should handle both cases..
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:29] **bzed> and even worse, they patch things...
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:34] **bitmonk> yes
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:36] **bzed> and never bring the patches to upstream
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:40] **bitmonk> well i'm working on at least turning that into a buildout
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:46] **bitmonk> which zope-land and python-land people can read
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:00] **bitmonk> want to talk people into turning ZenPacks into standard eggs, seems to be the trend anyway
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:00] **bzed> and some of the patches were weird, but if I remember right they were for windows only
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:09] **bitmonk> i think if i join the list and listen in people will be doing some of what i'd like to see
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:22] **bitmonk> yah well that happens in all python enterprise world :/
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:33] **bitmonk> fscking windoze
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:36] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 09:23:19] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[29-Dec-2008 11:23:42] **locohost> it should show all the routs
[29-Dec-2008 11:24:01] **locohost> how many are there, how many does it show?
[29-Dec-2008 11:34:07] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[29-Dec-2008 12:36:27] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[29-Dec-2008 12:38:46] **magnachef> how many routes do you have?
[29-Dec-2008 13:13:31] **ke4qqq> hey guys - I was at 2.2.4 - and upgraded a few weeks ago to 2.3.0 and then even more recently to 2.3.2 - upgrades seemed to go ok- data accessible afterwords - everything seemed to be going great - except I stopped getting email notifications. - test messages work. Also the web interface just seems to die - data is still being collected, but Load Avg is so high I have to restart zenoss to get to the webui. Thoughts?
[29-Dec-2008 13:14:06] **ke4qqq> npmccallum: I have had two people look at zapplet - the package works - hope to have it in the repositories by end of the year.
[29-Dec-2008 13:15:48] **bitmonk> ke4qqq: what processes are using most resources when load avg is so high/
[29-Dec-2008 13:35:35] **Cosmin> magnachef the static routes that i have build
[29-Dec-2008 13:35:38] **Cosmin> they dont show up
[29-Dec-2008 13:36:06] **magnachef> but you are seeing some of the routes?
[29-Dec-2008 13:36:14] **Cosmin> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8431
[29-Dec-2008 13:36:21] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss not showing all the routes for an device (at forums.zenoss.com)
[29-Dec-2008 13:37:10] **bitmonk> ke4qqq: i'm quite knowledgeable with the technology behind the web interface, and i wonder if there may be a problem which only requires those bits to restart, not all of zenoss.. restarting zenoss entirely is pretty much almost never necessary, and gives me a headache
[29-Dec-2008 13:38:59] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: great
[29-Dec-2008 13:40:28] **magnachef> perhaps SNMP is timing out on that OID?
[29-Dec-2008 13:41:40] **ke4qqq> bitmonk: I am sure that all of zenoss doesn't need a restart, but I was lazy and service zenoss restart seems to fix it
[29-Dec-2008 13:42:42] **bitmonk> yah it's not just diagnostically helpful
[29-Dec-2008 13:43:13] **bitmonk> "every time my foot hurts, i kill myself. what's wrong, doc?" "problem is you've got very suicidal tendencies." :-P
[29-Dec-2008 13:44:32] **ke4qqq> does the initscript for zenoss allow me to merely restart zope?
[29-Dec-2008 13:44:42] **ke4qqq> or should I just sighup it?
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:14] **Cosmin> magnachef any ideeas?
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:38] **magnachef> I wonder if SNMP is timing out
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:52] **magnachef> how long does it take to query the device
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:56] **magnachef> for that OID
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:12] **Cosmin> hm..
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:14] **Cosmin> its pretty fast
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:18] **Cosmin> and its for all the devices
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:24] **Cosmin> and i font see any time out errors
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:38] **magnachef> what happens when you remodel the device? Does it show any errors?
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:46] **Cosmin> nope
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:57] **Cosmin> you want me to remodel it and past it somewhere?
[29-Dec-2008 13:47:08] **magnachef> yeah, throw it up on pastebin
[29-Dec-2008 13:52:31] **ke4qqq> so bitmonk - running top shows a python instance at 100%, grabbing 33% of memory and driving load average to 2.5ish - when I was on 2.2.4 - my load average was 0.08-0.25 consistently.
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:00] **bitmonk> which python instance?
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:04] **bitmonk> you have about twelve with zenoss..
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:16] **bitmonk> get its' pid and grep it out of ps auxf (give it COLUMNS=500 if you have to)
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:20] **ke4qqq> ohhh sorry http://fpaste.org/paste/423
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:27] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #423 (at fpaste.org)
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:30] **ke4qqq> did that already and failed to paste it.
[29-Dec-2008 13:55:02] **Cosmin> http://pastebin.com/d14a20fee
[29-Dec-2008 13:55:10] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[29-Dec-2008 13:57:06] **cmdln> Im trying to build a threshold for printers toner level
[29-Dec-2008 13:57:27] **cmdln> I have some data points Expected Pages and Remaining Pages
[29-Dec-2008 13:58:50] **Cosmin> magnachef what do you think?
[29-Dec-2008 14:00:02] **cmdln> I want to divide expected Pages by Remaining Pages then multiply by 10 and make sure thats greater than 5
[29-Dec-2008 14:00:13] **cmdln> (here.Expected Pages/here.Remaining Pages) * 10 < 5 but that does not appear to work
[29-Dec-2008 14:00:15] **Cosmin> i have 6 routes
[29-Dec-2008 14:02:27] **magnachef> not sure
[29-Dec-2008 14:02:56] **Cosmin> hmm..
[29-Dec-2008 14:03:43] **ke4qqq> cmdln - I think it could be an order of operations problem
[29-Dec-2008 14:04:55] **cmdln> well the error i get on the performance template is (missing)
[29-Dec-2008 14:04:56] **ke4qqq> hmmmm no
[29-Dec-2008 14:05:11] **ke4qqq> comparison is after multiplication
[29-Dec-2008 14:13:28] **cmdln> Perhaps it has to do with spaces in the data souces name?
[29-Dec-2008 15:25:02] **cmdln> How can I see what the last collected value for a data point is?
[29-Dec-2008 15:26:24] **magnachef> rrdtool fetch?
[29-Dec-2008 15:26:44] **magnachef> assuming you know the rrd file name
[29-Dec-2008 15:27:14] **cmdln> Values are only recorded in the rrd files?
[29-Dec-2008 15:27:33] **magnachef> I believe so, that's where the graph data is stored
[29-Dec-2008 15:28:39] **cmdln> Im trying to track down why when using counter type datapoint my graph does not show up, but it works fine with gauge
[29-Dec-2008 15:29:55] **magnachef> I wonder if you need to remove the old GAUGE rrd file
[29-Dec-2008 15:30:34] **magnachef> counter will take longer to show up though, as it will need to poll a couple times
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:14] **cmdln> ah
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:27] **cmdln> maybe thats the issue then
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:35] **magnachef> the best way to view if there is any updates is through the rrdtool command line tool
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:45] **magnachef> using fetch and last
[29-Dec-2008 15:32:05] **magnachef> last will tell you the last time it was updated, and fetch will show you the raw data in the rrd
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[30-Dec-2008 05:10:32] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[30-Dec-2008 06:01:28] **raddy> Aziraphale : Hi
[30-Dec-2008 06:03:48] **Aziraphale> hey
[30-Dec-2008 06:05:56] **raddy> Aziraphale : Do you have any prior experience in using Event Transform?
[30-Dec-2008 06:13:08] **raddy> Aziraphale : are you still here?
[30-Dec-2008 06:25:01] **Aziraphale> nope
[30-Dec-2008 06:25:27] **Aziraphale> rethe event transform
[30-Dec-2008 06:25:56] **Aziraphale> c0ck
[30-Dec-2008 06:26:20] **Aziraphale> that traphandling fix in 2.3.2 buggers up the oid matching
[30-Dec-2008 06:40:12] **Aziraphale> ah
[30-Dec-2008 06:40:17] **Aziraphale> have to use v2c now
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[30-Dec-2008 08:02:33] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[30-Dec-2008 08:03:08] **Aziraphale> what sort of device?
[30-Dec-2008 08:04:28] **Cosmin> a linux box
[30-Dec-2008 08:05:50] **Aziraphale> hm
[30-Dec-2008 08:06:22] **Aziraphale> shows the default route on one of mine alright
[30-Dec-2008 08:06:48] **ke4qqq> sooo... I have been exploring a bit more with my eat all available cpu problem with zope....and am seeing something strange. let me first declare that I have mysql stored on it's own spindle, and another spindle for /opt/zenoss/perf that said, I am seeing 6x the number of writes to one of my filesystems as I am seeing to opt/zenoss/perf - which would explain some of the high wait times. I am talking 675Blks wrtn/second
[30-Dec-2008 08:07:42] **Aziraphale> try the zenoss.snmp.NewRouteMap collector, maybe that works better
[30-Dec-2008 08:18:58] **Cosmin> Aziraphale the static routes that i have set up
[30-Dec-2008 08:19:05] **Cosmin> i see the default ones also
[30-Dec-2008 08:19:34] **Cosmin> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8431
[30-Dec-2008 08:19:41] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss not showing all the routes for an device (at forums.zenoss.com)
[30-Dec-2008 08:21:33] **bartroff> Has anyone had problems with Google maps geocoding the map, everytime you refresh / open dashboard?
[30-Dec-2008 08:22:01] **bartroff> I have like 150 locations on it - takes some time everytime
[30-Dec-2008 08:22:39] **bartroff> It started after i cleared the geolocation cache
[30-Dec-2008 08:23:07] **bartroff> Geocode cache.. sorry
[30-Dec-2008 08:36:14] **ke4qqq> bartroff: there was some traffic on the forum about it recently.
[30-Dec-2008 08:38:14] **bartroff> ah, found it - thanks
[30-Dec-2008 08:38:58] **ke4qqq> np
[30-Dec-2008 09:07:53] **Aziraphale> so, *now* I've used EventTransform...
[30-Dec-2008 09:20:26] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[30-Dec-2008 09:51:58] **ke4qqq> so bitmonk - mind if I pick your brain a bit....
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:06] **ke4qqq> I have been exploring a bit more with my eat all available cpu problem with zope....and am seeing something strange. let me
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:09] **ke4qqq> first declare that I have mysql stored on it's own spindle, and another spindle for /opt/zenoss/perf that said, I am seeing 6x the
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:12] **ke4qqq> number of writes to one of my filesystems as I am seeing to opt/zenoss/perf - which would explain some of the high wait times. I am
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:24] **ke4qqq> talking 675Blks wrtn/second
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:31] **ke4qqq> that was nice paste of a former question
[30-Dec-2008 10:29:35] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[30-Dec-2008 10:40:19] **Faust-C> anyone expericening a issue w/ webui saying it cant connect to server
[30-Dec-2008 11:37:58] **SEJeff> How do you assign zProperties to a group? Surely that is possible but I'm not figuring it out
[30-Dec-2008 12:52:51] **fried1> Is anyone willing to help me out with some errors I'm getting building 2.3.2 from source?
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[31-Dec-2008 09:33:37] **zenChild> Anyone know if there is a way to remove device via the command line?
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:18] **Gecko> There's an entry on that in the developer's guide
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:32] **Gecko> It's pretty easy
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:34] **zenChild> k. i'll check there. thanx
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:40] **Gecko> np
[31-Dec-2008 09:41:57] **zenChild> Just in case anyone is following along and is curious... here is how to delete a device from the command line:
[31-Dec-2008 09:41:57] **zenChild> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch05s03.html
[31-Dec-2008 09:42:12] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Jan-2009 00:00:27] **kgoedtel> Happy New Year
[01-Dec-2008 00:06:05] **arfal> I tried to monitor linux server
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:20] **xpot> I have installed rrdtool to no avail... still missing rrd file.
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:36] **arfal> yep, really same
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:49] **xpot> is there no one here who can help us troublshoot?
[01-Dec-2008 00:08:56] **arfal> dunno
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:07] **arfal> I think everybody is sleeping
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:27] **arfal> in my event tab, all oid is bad
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:36] **xpot> hehe, I will just keep searching the net and trying some options then untill someonce wakes up here
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:46] **xpot> checking mine...
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:49] **MajereDB8> arfal: do you have an snmp daemon properly configured
[01-Dec-2008 00:09:57] **arfal> yes I have
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:06] **MajereDB8> and you're sure that it's pointing to the proper oids?
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:10] **arfal> net-snmp has installed on my linux server
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:27] **arfal> I tried snmpwalk and it's success too
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:30] **xpot> hmmm... I have nothing in events tab
[01-Dec-2008 00:10:51] **arfal> how can I checked it?
[01-Dec-2008 00:11:38] **MajereDB8> try setting up an snmp trap and generating an alarm. that's the easiest way to rule out that snmp is broken
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:08] **MajereDB8> or for example that the port is firewalled
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:24] **arfal> can u show me how to do it? sorry, a little newbie here
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:52] **MajereDB8> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch11s15.html
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:57] **arfal> I've turn off all firewall on my linux server
[01-Dec-2008 00:12:59] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 00:13:30] **MajereDB8> the admin guide is helpful, but if you don't know much about snmp, it can seem totally foreign.
[01-Dec-2008 00:13:44] **arfal> ok, I'll try it
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:23] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:23] **MajereDB8> have you been able to model the device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:40] **raddy> Who are having rrd related issues
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:49] **arfal> model the device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:14:58] **arfal> u mean add the device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:15:33] **raddy> You have to configure your remote device's snmpd to allow the Zenoss to correct obtain the data
[01-Dec-2008 00:16:17] **MajereDB8> well, after you add the device, you can tell zenoss to "model" the device, which means that it will probe your server for known services. since it's a linux system, zenoss has templates for several common services. like raddy says, you need to make sure you have the snmpd information set up properly
[01-Dec-2008 00:17:04] **arfal> its that all configured on my linux server snmpd.conf or snmpd.conf on my zenoss server?
[01-Dec-2008 00:17:44] **MajereDB8> it's on both. you set the server's community strings and snmp versions on the linux server, and then you configure zenoss with those same settings
[01-Dec-2008 00:18:26] **raddy> arfal : also make sure whether Zenoss has access to remote device's snmpd's port
[01-Dec-2008 00:18:38] **raddy> arfal : It should be opened
[01-Dec-2008 00:19:08] **arfal> ooh ok, so I have to make sure that zenoss can access my linux server snmp port
[01-Dec-2008 00:19:22] **raddy> arfal : yup
[01-Dec-2008 00:20:50] **xpot> raddy: I am
[01-Dec-2008 00:20:53] **raddy> arfal : udp 161 and udp 162
[01-Dec-2008 00:21:13] **raddy> xpot : please rephrase your issue
[01-Dec-2008 00:22:18] **xpot> raddy: I get "MISSING RRD FILE"
[01-Dec-2008 00:22:35] **raddy> MajereDB8 : Zenoss is still not that eagle-eyed yet to find a process UP state in remote device
[01-Dec-2008 00:22:54] **xpot> snmpd is setup and model device detects my location and admin information.
[01-Dec-2008 00:23:32] **raddy> xpot : snmpd is might not yet been setup correctly in remote device
[01-Dec-2008 00:23:59] **xpot> raddy: I am starting with the same device that zenoss is installed on
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:10] **raddy> xpot : you have to configure your remote device snmpd to collect lot of informations
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:37] **raddy> xpot : so Zenoss is monitoring it's own device?
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:41] **MajereDB8> raddy: yeah, such is the nature of snmp. although, i've had some pretty good success with the modeler in finding various services on non-x86, linux-based routers
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:42] **xpot> raddy: I see, I used the default snmpd.conf and just updated the community and admin stuff
[01-Dec-2008 00:24:56] **xpot> raddy: yes to monitorin own device
[01-Dec-2008 00:25:47] **raddy> MajereDB8 : one reason for the issue in my end is i have stopped the modeler daemon
[01-Dec-2008 00:26:00] **MajereDB8> raddy: yup, that will do it
[01-Dec-2008 00:26:16] **MajereDB8> xpot: do you get the rrd file issue on every graph, or only on certain ones?
[01-Dec-2008 00:26:28] **raddy> MajereDB8 : you mean? should it be always running?
[01-Dec-2008 00:27:24] **xpot> raddy: currently have no graphs, the only one attempting to show a graph give the missing rrd file and that is the "Load Average" oh and Ping RoundTrip
[01-Dec-2008 00:27:48] **MajereDB8> raddy: oh, i thought you meant that you had it disabled. as far as i know, it should just be out there and only run when it needs to
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:05] **raddy> xpot : it was MajereDB8 who asked the last question
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:16] **xpot> oh
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:32] **MajereDB8> xpot: you may want to try to add a different template and see if the graphs from that work
[01-Dec-2008 00:28:59] **MajereDB8> i've had issues on different servers and devices where certain oids are accessible, but others are not
[01-Dec-2008 00:29:14] **xpot> Majere: I do have an asterisk ZenPack Template that shows nothing as well, I will try a default template and see what I get
[01-Dec-2008 00:31:33] **MajereDB8> i'm not an expert by any means, but just as a matter of trouble shooting, one possibility is that your zenpack is pointing towards a bad oid, so it's not able to generate the rrd file. so trying one of the default templates is a way to eliminate that possibility
[01-Dec-2008 00:33:20] **xpot> Majere: I removed all bindings to zenpack items, and now only Device(defaults) is binding. I show "Load Average" --> MISSING RRD FILE, "CPU Util" --> Nothing?, "Memory" --> Nothing?, "IO" --> Nothing?
[01-Dec-2008 00:34:06] **xpot> Note: running 2.3
[01-Dec-2008 00:34:28] **MajereDB8> it can take a little while for the graphs to populate
[01-Dec-2008 00:34:46] **xpot> ok, is there cache I need to clear or anything?
[01-Dec-2008 00:35:33] **MajereDB8> it should automatically generate the graphs, but it takes a few minutes to collect the data
[01-Dec-2008 00:38:12] **xpot> ok
[01-Dec-2008 00:41:15] **MajereDB8> fyi - it looks like the asterisk zenpack is broken at the moment - http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7327&highlight=asterisk
[01-Dec-2008 00:41:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problem adding datasource (at forums.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 00:45:11] **xpot> Majere: thank you, I will remove that
[01-Dec-2008 01:04:30] **xpot> is there a good tutorial for setting up snmpd for use with zenoss? I can't find anything in the Admin guide. Here is my snmpd.conf if anyone wants to take a look: http://pastebin.ca/1272134
[01-Dec-2008 01:04:40] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - xpot - post number 1272134 (at pastebin.ca)
[01-Dec-2008 01:06:16] **MajereDB8> xpot: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[01-Dec-2008 01:06:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 01:07:05] **xpot> Majere: thank you
[01-Dec-2008 01:07:21] **xpot> I guess I should have looked there, sorry
[01-Dec-2008 01:07:24] **MajereDB8> sure thing
[01-Dec-2008 01:10:56] **MajereDB8> fyi - you should uncomment the readonly and readwrite lines under com2sec
[01-Dec-2008 01:11:30] **xpot> ok
[01-Dec-2008 01:12:29] **MajereDB8> your snmpd configuration file doesn't properly set up a security name for the public and private community strings, which is probably causing problems. try uncommenting those two lines and restarting snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 01:13:09] **xpot> even if I don't want to use those communities? I am using monitor as the community in zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 01:13:31] **krphop> yeah, might want to use something other than a default community
[01-Dec-2008 01:13:59] **xpot> ok, I will do that
[01-Dec-2008 01:14:10] **krphop> something thats probably not in a dictionary
[01-Dec-2008 01:14:23] **xpot> i see
[01-Dec-2008 01:15:11] **MajereDB8> yeah, from a security standpoint, krphop is right. i usually test using public and private in a controlled environment because a lot of stuff out of the box will default to that
[01-Dec-2008 01:15:34] **krphop> ah, we were testing, sorry, that was probably above and beyond the scope of the support
[01-Dec-2008 01:15:34] **krphop> lol
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:19] **arfal> MajereDB8: I've open the snmp port (udp 161 & 162), but still I've missing rrd file
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:43] **krphop> did a quick install of the latest ver of zenoss the other night on a new test box, and all the load averages of linux hosts were jacked up, it was only showing load 5
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:48] **krphop> load 1 and load 15 were at .01
[01-Dec-2008 01:17:58] **MajereDB8> arfal: are you able to get zenoss to model your server?
[01-Dec-2008 01:19:17] **arfal> sorry, where can I see that I can model my server?
[01-Dec-2008 01:20:21] **MajereDB8> have you added the device into the zenoss web interface yet?
[01-Dec-2008 01:20:59] **arfal> yes I have
[01-Dec-2008 01:21:26] **arfal> The device appear on my device list and it has 9 blue dots
[01-Dec-2008 01:21:57] **MajereDB8> did you manually add the stuff listed in the blue dots
[01-Dec-2008 01:22:00] **arfal> in the events tab there's an error says: Error reading value for "memBuffer" on FREQUENTLINE SRV-1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[01-Dec-2008 01:22:25] **MajereDB8> or did all of that show up after you added the device
[01-Dec-2008 01:22:52] **MajereDB8> basically, you need to go into the device, edit it, and list the proper snmp port and community string
[01-Dec-2008 01:23:27] **arfal> nah, thats it, all of the blue dots has occure a minutes after I add devices
[01-Dec-2008 01:23:47] **MajereDB8> then click the little down arrow and find the model command. i don't remember exactly where that is, since i haven't logged into my zenoss box in a while
[01-Dec-2008 01:24:56] **arfal> now I'm at the edit tab, but I can't see model command
[01-Dec-2008 01:26:05] **xpot> arfal: click down arrow at left next to status tab, then click Manage, then Model Device
[01-Dec-2008 01:26:15] **arfal> oh, ok
[01-Dec-2008 01:27:26] **arfal> do you mean event manager?
[01-Dec-2008 01:27:31] **MajereDB8> no.
[01-Dec-2008 01:28:02] **MajereDB8> do it form within the status page of your device.
[01-Dec-2008 01:28:03] **arfal> ah yes, manage
[01-Dec-2008 01:29:52] **arfal> ok, I've model device but still no luck
[01-Dec-2008 01:30:00] **arfal> 9 blue dots still came up
[01-Dec-2008 01:31:26] **arfal> all has bad oid
[01-Dec-2008 01:31:47] **MajereDB8> i've got nothing. unfortunately it's bed time for me. hopefully somebody else can take a crack at it for you
[01-Dec-2008 01:31:59] **arfal> ok, thank anyway
[01-Dec-2008 01:34:38] **xpot> FYI: I found that I have alot of OID is BAD
[01-Dec-2008 01:36:09] **arfal> yeah, me neither, hope there's anybody to help us
[01-Dec-2008 02:02:01] **xpot> arfal: is this what you get? http://screencast.com/t/Ge3cSjQ20B
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:27] **arfal> exactly
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:35] **arfal> but not much as yours
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:45] **xpot> ok
[01-Dec-2008 02:03:47] **arfal> I've got 9 bad oid
[01-Dec-2008 02:04:03] **xpot> hrm
[01-Dec-2008 02:04:25] **xpot> I can't find much in the forums relating this issue
[01-Dec-2008 02:13:52] **arfal> many of them have problem oid on windows server
[01-Dec-2008 02:20:22] **xpot> arfal: I finally got some graphs, I still have bad oid but a few graphs are showing up
[01-Dec-2008 02:20:25] **xpot> checkout http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/docs/man/snmpd.examples.html
[01-Dec-2008 02:20:32] **adytum-bot> Title: Net-SNMP (at net-snmp.sourceforge.net)
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:36] **xpot> I added these: includeAllDisks
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:36] **xpot> dontPrintUnits true
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:36] **xpot> proc httpd
[01-Dec-2008 02:22:52] **arfal> wow, thats great, I'll look at it
[01-Dec-2008 02:24:13] **arfal> that 3 line you add at ur snmpd.conf?
[01-Dec-2008 02:30:18] **xpot> yes
[01-Dec-2008 02:31:02] **arfal> snmpd.conf on remote server or on zenoss server?
[01-Dec-2008 02:33:58] **xpot> on remote
[01-Dec-2008 02:34:49] **arfal> I've added that 3 line and nothing happened
[01-Dec-2008 03:07:15] **xpot> check out my snmpd.conf and compare
[01-Dec-2008 03:07:23] **xpot> hld on while I get the link
[01-Dec-2008 03:11:14] **arfal> ok
[01-Dec-2008 03:15:24] **xpot> http://pastebin.ca/1272201
[01-Dec-2008 03:15:32] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - xpot - post number 1272201 (at pastebin.ca)
[01-Dec-2008 03:16:35] **arfal> thx bro, I'll compare it
[01-Dec-2008 03:16:41] **xpot> np'
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:09] **arfal> well, I have compare with yours
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:21] **arfal> theres a little bit differences
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:34] **arfal> and I've used you conf
[01-Dec-2008 03:28:49] **arfal> but, there's nothing happen
[01-Dec-2008 03:29:36] **SpunkMeYeR> hi all
[01-Dec-2008 03:30:08] **SpunkMeYeR> how to send sms alert from zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 03:30:31] **arfal> xpot: I've to get back home right now
[01-Dec-2008 03:30:53] **arfal> thx for all of your discussion
[01-Dec-2008 03:31:01] **arfal> I'll online later
[01-Dec-2008 03:31:03] **arfal> bye
[01-Dec-2008 09:46:57] **Cosmin> how can i monitor eth0:1
[01-Dec-2008 09:46:58] **Cosmin> ?
[01-Dec-2008 09:47:47] **Cosmin> does anyone know how to do that?
[01-Dec-2008 10:09:19] **NoxIn-> AFAIK eth0:1 is just another ip adress on the same interface .. if you pool using snmp I don't think you can.. you will have the traffic of eth0
[01-Dec-2008 10:09:51] **Cosmin> oh ok
[01-Dec-2008 10:09:59] **Cosmin> so its not worth the time
[01-Dec-2008 10:10:21] **NoxIn-> if you do "ifconfig" you see ... you don't have counters for the aliases
[01-Dec-2008 10:10:56] **hotgrits> NoxIn is correct. Can't be done. Sorry, Cosmin!
[01-Dec-2008 10:12:19] **Cosmin>
[01-Dec-2008 10:12:20] **Cosmin> cool
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:38] **Cosmin> the problem that im having is...
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:44] **Cosmin> how i have different ips
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:49] **Cosmin> for each interface
[01-Dec-2008 10:15:57] **Cosmin> when i do discovery
[01-Dec-2008 10:16:06] **Cosmin> i get same device 3 times
[01-Dec-2008 10:16:16] **Cosmin> eth0 eth0:1 and eth0:2
[01-Dec-2008 10:18:49] **Cosmin> anyone know how this could be avoided?
[01-Dec-2008 10:26:22] **NoxIn-> well, it should detect that it's the same device
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:03] **NoxIn-> it create 3 devices ?
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:20] **Cosmin> yes
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:37] **Cosmin> i mean it didnt detect the hostname
[01-Dec-2008 10:27:45] **Cosmin> so it dicovered 3 ip adresses
[01-Dec-2008 10:28:08] **NoxIn-> the snmp agent is working ?
[01-Dec-2008 10:28:25] **NoxIn-> the ip adresses are referenced in the reverse dns zone ?
[01-Dec-2008 10:30:14] **Cosmin> the snmp agent was not working when i installed
[01-Dec-2008 10:30:18] **Cosmin> when i discovered
[01-Dec-2008 10:30:24] **Cosmin> so i guess that would be the problem?
[01-Dec-2008 10:31:11] **NoxIn-> well... zenoss need to have a way to tell the ips correspond to the same device
[01-Dec-2008 10:32:14] **NoxIn-> I'am not an expert on how it does (I am new to zenoss) but on my network it worked pretty well
[01-Dec-2008 10:34:02] **Cosmin> ok
[01-Dec-2008 10:34:06] **Cosmin> ill try that again
[01-Dec-2008 10:34:07] **Cosmin> thanks
[01-Dec-2008 13:09:38] **cgibbons> quiet today
[01-Dec-2008 13:13:43] **magnachef> tukey coma
[01-Dec-2008 13:13:54] **magnachef> s/tukey/turkey/
[01-Dec-2008 13:54:45] **T-mac> Hi, is there anyone in this channel that could answer a question about zenpacks?
[01-Dec-2008 14:04:22] **magnachef> what's the question?
[01-Dec-2008 14:14:51] **T-mac> I installed the fortinet Zenpack. But i do not see a change or anything.
[01-Dec-2008 14:15:13] **T-mac> Is there something else that has to be done?
[01-Dec-2008 14:15:38] **magnachef> not knowing anything about that zenpack, did you add the devices to that device class
[01-Dec-2008 14:16:55] **T-mac> I have added 3 of the Fortigate routers into zenoss if that is what you mean.
[01-Dec-2008 14:17:17] **T-mac> I just thought a zenpack would change the GUI is some sort of wayt
[01-Dec-2008 14:18:03] **magnachef> it will add certain device modeling collectors, performance templates, etc
[01-Dec-2008 14:18:20] **magnachef> but when you add the routers they need to be in the class created for those devices
[01-Dec-2008 14:18:36] **T-mac> Ohhh. I think i see what you mean. Let me give this a try
[01-Dec-2008 14:20:22] **MAlexHerron> has anyone encountered an issue with zenping not pinging devices? even with the daemon running... i am not getting pings unless i manuall run from command-line
[01-Dec-2008 14:23:45] **MAlexHerron> the logs dont show anything abnormal
[01-Dec-2008 14:25:31] **magnachef> try stopping then starting zenping
[01-Dec-2008 14:26:00] **magnachef> it may be something with the cache files
[01-Dec-2008 14:34:08] **magnachef> are these new devices it's not pinging?
[01-Dec-2008 14:46:20] **T-mac> magnachef, do you mean when i add the device in the "devince class path" i should select the correct one?
[01-Dec-2008 14:55:01] **magnachef> yeah
[01-Dec-2008 14:55:25] **magnachef> so I'm assuming it created a device class of: /devices/routers/fortigate
[01-Dec-2008 14:55:29] **magnachef> or something like that
[01-Dec-2008 14:58:34] **T-mac> Yeah i looked for somethig like that. There is no new created path
[01-Dec-2008 14:58:47] **magnachef> hmmm
[01-Dec-2008 14:59:07] **magnachef> maybe it added some collectors under an existing device class
[01-Dec-2008 14:59:33] **magnachef> check the zenpack's documentation, or post a question to the zenpack forums
[01-Dec-2008 14:59:59] **T-mac> Might have to do that.
[01-Dec-2008 15:00:09] **T-mac> It would be sweet to get this thing going.
[01-Dec-2008 15:10:34] **magnachef> cool
[01-Dec-2008 15:11:04] **mrayzenoss> just got back from vacation, getting all my community stuff straightened out
[01-Dec-2008 15:11:22] **monrad> vacation is highly overrated
[01-Dec-2008 15:11:23] **mrayzenoss> not sure if I can catch up on 550+ forum posts
[01-Dec-2008 15:14:41] **magnachef> speed read ;-)
[01-Dec-2008 16:06:56] **gf69> good evening
[01-Dec-2008 16:08:14] **gf69> im new to zenoss...i installed it on a remotely hosted machine for a company i work for
[01-Dec-2008 16:08:32] **magnachef> welcome
[01-Dec-2008 16:09:04] **gf69> as i attempt to learn the application to make it do what they want i am trying to add my machine hosted at my house to see if it detects it etc yet keep getting this error
[01-Dec-2008 16:09:06] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[01-Dec-2008 16:09:29] **gf69> 161 and 162 udp are open on both ends
[01-Dec-2008 16:10:01] **magnachef> is snmp configured properly on nyfreetech.us?
[01-Dec-2008 16:10:14] **magnachef> can you walk it via snmp from the commandline on the zenoss server
[01-Dec-2008 16:10:52] **gf69> i installed snmp on nyft via apt
[01-Dec-2008 16:11:10] **magnachef> you need to make sure it's configured properly and that net-snmp is running
[01-Dec-2008 16:12:14] **gf69> and went in the config and made rocommunity public
[01-Dec-2008 16:13:07] **gf69> ps ax | grep snmp
[01-Dec-2008 16:13:07] **gf69> 4200 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1
[01-Dec-2008 16:14:37] **gf69> run this from cl? /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler run --now -F -d nyfreetech.us --weblog
[01-Dec-2008 16:16:17] **gf69> get the same thing when i run it from a command line
[01-Dec-2008 16:24:37] **magnachef> try running: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public .
[01-Dec-2008 16:25:01] **magnachef> make sure you restart snmpd when making config changes
[01-Dec-2008 16:44:38] LarsN is now known as LarsN-Away
[01-Dec-2008 18:35:56] **arfal> anybody here?
[01-Dec-2008 18:37:10] * magnachef is
[01-Dec-2008 18:39:24] * MAlexHerron is too
[01-Dec-2008 18:39:49] **magnachef> arfal: what seems to be the problem?
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:11] **arfal> just like yesterday
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:18] **arfal> bad oid's
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:36] **arfal> graph performance doesn't show
[01-Dec-2008 18:49:45] **arfal> missing rrd files
[01-Dec-2008 18:53:46] **magnachef> for what check performance data?
[01-Dec-2008 18:54:03] **magnachef> standard, zenpack, custom added by you?
[01-Dec-2008 18:56:25] **arfal> standard
[01-Dec-2008 18:56:48] **arfal> this is one of my error on events tab:
[01-Dec-2008 18:56:54] **arfal> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on SRV-1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[01-Dec-2008 19:01:21] **magnachef> are you sure you can poll those values?
[01-Dec-2008 19:01:33] **magnachef> try doing an snmpget on the commandline
[01-Dec-2008 19:01:59] **arfal> I've tried running snmplwalk
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:12] **magnachef> and you're getting proper values back?
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:20] **arfal> the result is just 'End of MIB'
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:34] **magnachef> oh, ok, the issue is then with your device
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:39] **magnachef> what type of device is it?
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:44] **arfal> this is my command: snmpwalk -v1 -c public 172.25.8.246 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[01-Dec-2008 19:02:49] **arfal> linux server
[01-Dec-2008 19:03:41] **arfal> I've installed net-snmp-5.3.0.1-25.2
[01-Dec-2008 19:03:52] **arfal> open the 161 162 udp port
[01-Dec-2008 19:04:02] **arfal> still oid error..
[01-Dec-2008 19:04:54] **magnachef> did you configure snmpd.conf properly?
[01-Dec-2008 19:04:56] **magnachef> and restart snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:18] **magnachef> I tried it on one of my linux servers and I got a result
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:19] **arfal> I think so, and I have restart snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:46] **magnachef> can you paste your config, preferrably in pastebin
[01-Dec-2008 19:05:54] **arfal> what is the most necessary things I have to add to my snmpd.conf?
[01-Dec-2008 19:06:05] **arfal> ok
[01-Dec-2008 19:06:39] **magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[01-Dec-2008 19:06:46] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:09:56] **magnachef> you probably need to check if your package was compiled with proper flags to monitor memory
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:43] **arfal> how can I checked it?
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:49] **arfal> this is my snmpd.conf
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:50] **arfal> http://pastebin.com/d2db5ac36
[01-Dec-2008 19:11:57] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:12:16] **magnachef> do an snmpwalk on 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.100.6.0
[01-Dec-2008 19:13:04] **arfal> same result, just End of MIB
[01-Dec-2008 19:13:53] **arfal> from the link u gave me, it is just copy paste the line to my snmpd.conf?
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:24] **magnachef> http://pastebin.com/m397f1db7
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:29] **magnachef> check out that simple config
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:32] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:16:35] **magnachef> put it in place and restart snmpd
[01-Dec-2008 19:17:41] **arfal> ok I'll try it
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:13] **arfal> nope, its same
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:35] **arfal> bad oid, and graphic performance still not appear
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:36] **magnachef> probably your version of net-snmp
[01-Dec-2008 19:21:50] **magnachef> yeah, you won't get any graphs until that oid works
[01-Dec-2008 19:22:48] **arfal> maybe, what version do you used?
[01-Dec-2008 19:23:42] **magnachef> 5.3.1
[01-Dec-2008 19:24:06] **magnachef> I'm running centos 4.6
[01-Dec-2008 19:24:23] **arfal> ok, I'll try to upgrade it first
[01-Dec-2008 19:24:37] **magnachef> you'll need to check the compile options as well
[01-Dec-2008 19:29:10] **magnachef> here's the flags that my version was compiled with: http://pastebin.com/m33014daa
[01-Dec-2008 19:29:18] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-Dec-2008 19:32:52] **arfal> ok, better to installed it from tar.gz then
[01-Dec-2008 19:35:56] **gf69> what all needs configured for snmp on the machine being monitored by zenoss?
[01-Dec-2008 19:36:25] **gf69> both machines are not on the same network and the one being monitored is behind a router
[01-Dec-2008 19:36:40] **gf69> with 161 and 162 udp forwarded to it
[01-Dec-2008 19:36:48] **gf69> still getting the same error Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[01-Dec-2008 19:37:21] **magnachef> see my above posts
[01-Dec-2008 19:37:33] **gf69> about restarting or after?
[01-Dec-2008 19:37:57] **magnachef> well, I pasted an easy config file a few lines up
[01-Dec-2008 19:38:17] **magnachef> put that in place, restart snmpd, and then try to manually walk the device from the commandline
[01-Dec-2008 19:38:50] **magnachef> did you try running: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public .
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:16] **gf69> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public nyfreetech.us .
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:16] **gf69> Timeout: No Response from nyfreetech.us
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:26] **gf69> will put that sample config in 1 sec
[01-Dec-2008 19:42:31] **magnachef> can you ping nyfreetech.us?
[01-Dec-2008 19:43:31] **gf69> will timeout...always has for some reason
[01-Dec-2008 19:43:41] **magnachef> there's your issue
[01-Dec-2008 19:43:42] **gf69> dunno if it is due to the router or the nix wall
[01-Dec-2008 19:44:21] **magnachef> do you have port 161 opened?
[01-Dec-2008 19:44:26] **magnachef> on the unix machine?
[01-Dec-2008 19:44:53] **gf69> Yes
[01-Dec-2008 19:45:09] **gf69> and in the router its pointed to the nix box
[01-Dec-2008 19:45:23] **magnachef> have you validated it via tcpdump or something like that
[01-Dec-2008 19:45:53] **gf69> this machine is on the same network and i cant even ping it lol never was able to...unless i ping the local ip
[01-Dec-2008 19:46:53] **gf69> the router itself must be blocking the pings
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:22] **magnachef> yeah
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:26] **gf69> Respond to Ping on Internet Port
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:35] **gf69> might wanna check that in the router hehe
[01-Dec-2008 19:49:36] **magnachef> how about SNMP?
[01-Dec-2008 19:51:58] **arfal> what is the right output should be when we run snmpwalk?
[01-Dec-2008 19:53:50] **gf691> --- nyfreetech.us ping statistics ---
[01-Dec-2008 19:53:50] **gf691> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms
[01-Dec-2008 19:53:50] **gf691> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 64.689/66.160/67.709/1.045 ms
[01-Dec-2008 19:54:12] **magnachef> a lot of data
[01-Dec-2008 19:54:58] **gf691> now for the config file
[01-Dec-2008 19:56:16] **arfal> hey, my graphics performance have appear, many thanks to you magnachef :-)
[01-Dec-2008 19:56:55] **magnachef> no problem :-)
[01-Dec-2008 20:06:30] **gf691> still
[01-Dec-2008 20:06:57] **gf691> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/ did this
[01-Dec-2008 20:07:04] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 20:07:07] **gf691> and restarted snmp
[01-Dec-2008 20:07:24] **gf691> i need to make the same changes to snmp on the box that has zenoss on it as well?
[01-Dec-2008 20:09:22] gf691 is now known as gf69
[01-Dec-2008 20:12:21] **magnachef> no, you don't
[01-Dec-2008 20:12:37] **magnachef> but you should if you want to monitor it as well
[01-Dec-2008 20:14:32] **arfal> one more thing
[01-Dec-2008 20:14:44] **arfal> how can I configure zenoss server time?
[01-Dec-2008 20:15:01] **arfal> cause everytime I reconfigure it, then the zenhub wont start
[01-Dec-2008 20:19:13] **magnachef> I think it grabs it from the system time
[01-Dec-2008 20:20:22] **magnachef> checks the forums for that answer
[01-Dec-2008 20:25:19] **arfal> ok
[01-Dec-2008 20:27:57] **arfal> actually I've sync it with one of my server
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:11] **magnachef> well, I'm heading home...I'll be back tomorrow if we need to continue
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:14] **arfal> but when zenoss restart, the zenhub still won't up
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:23] **arfal> ok, thx anyway
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:31] **magnachef> check the forums for help
[01-Dec-2008 20:28:49] **magnachef> you may need to change your time setting within zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 20:35:01] **gf69> damn still
[01-Dec-2008 20:35:04] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[01-Dec-2008 20:35:37] **gf69> well this is wierd
[01-Dec-2008 20:36:01] **gf69> i copied the config from the machine with zenoss on it to nyfreetech
[01-Dec-2008 20:36:34] **gf69> the machine with zenoss on it maps just fine when i do the model device in zenoss
[01-Dec-2008 20:36:47] **gf69> yet nyft still says configure snmp lol
[01-Dec-2008 20:45:14] **gf69> there are ports referred to in the zenpacks....they need opened?
[01-Dec-2008 20:45:18] **gf69> such as zIpServiceMapMaxPort
[01-Dec-2008 20:45:58] **gf69> oops zproperties
[01-Dec-2008 21:13:50] **Cosmin> gf69
[01-Dec-2008 21:13:56] **Cosmin> try to telnet to port 161
[01-Dec-2008 21:14:00] **Cosmin> from the zenoss box
[01-Dec-2008 21:15:43] **arfal> try to copy this snmpd.conf lines from here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[01-Dec-2008 21:15:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> telnet nyfreetech.us 161
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> Trying 74.69.187.142...
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> telnet: connect to address 74.69.187.142: Connection timed out
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:06] **gf69> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:36] **gf69> 161 is open
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:37] **gf69> PORT STATE SERVICE
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:37] **gf69> 111/udp open|filtered rpcbind
[01-Dec-2008 21:33:37] **gf69> 161/udp open|filtered snmp
[01-Dec-2008 22:19:48] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[01-Dec-2008 22:20:09] **raddy> Can anybody let me know the status of Ticket #3709 ?
[01-Dec-2008 22:22:34] **arfal> what is Ticket #3709 ?
[01-Dec-2008 22:23:13] **raddy> arfal : Are you a developer of Zenoss?
[01-Dec-2008 22:35:02] **arfal> no, I'm not
[01-Dec-2008 22:35:05] **arfal> just user
[01-Dec-2008 22:39:29] **raddy> arfal : http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3709
[01-Dec-2008 22:49:26] **raddy> arfal : are you using ZenOSS to monitor remote device
[01-Dec-2008 23:36:05] **arfal> yes I'm
[01-Dec-2008 23:52:25] **arfal> anybody have problem with zenoss time server?
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[02-Dec-2008 01:41:50] **krphop> I'm having an issue with zeonss where the load average graphs are only graphing 5 minute average
[02-Dec-2008 01:41:56] **krphop> the 1 minute and 15 minute are near zero
[02-Dec-2008 02:02:57] **Larve_Q> hi...all
[02-Dec-2008 02:04:24] **krphop> sup
[02-Dec-2008 02:04:55] **Larve_Q> Question, is it possible to change de default font size of the eventconsole?
[02-Dec-2008 03:38:02] gf691 is now known as gf69
[02-Dec-2008 04:12:49] **sofh> hello all
[02-Dec-2008 04:13:24] **sofh> i am new to nms systems and off course zenoss...
[02-Dec-2008 04:14:42] **sofh> want to monitor different OIDs from routers or pc...can anybody give me a guidline where to take a start from?
[02-Dec-2008 04:15:33] **sofh> :|
[02-Dec-2008 04:26:38] **sofh> nobody there ?
[02-Dec-2008 04:34:57] **Larve_Q> hi sofh...
[02-Dec-2008 04:35:12] **Larve_Q> i would start with a perfomance template
[02-Dec-2008 04:35:23] **Larve_Q> chapter 13 in the admin guide...
[02-Dec-2008 04:51:18] **sofh> Thank you so much for the tip
[02-Dec-2008 04:51:23] **sofh> let mecheck it out
[02-Dec-2008 04:51:44] **sofh> one more question ...to get the data from different OIDs is zenoss core enough or should i go for professional
[02-Dec-2008 04:54:29] **baffle_> Is it possible to scan a Cisco router/switch (6513 in my case) with a huge routing table without ZenOss exploding?
[02-Dec-2008 04:58:22] **Larve_Q> Core should be enough...i'm using core as well
[02-Dec-2008 07:07:16] **kim0> Hi, I'm just starting with zenoss .. It autodiscovered my network ..
[02-Dec-2008 07:08:45] **kim0> um, can I have all machines that are listenning on port 22 be put into "class" Linux servers ?
[02-Dec-2008 08:24:58] **baffle_> Seems I was unable to add my Cisco 6513 router/switch. One issue is that it talks BGP. I disabled the routing collectors, and then it worked. But now it complains about all VLAN interfaces missing routing. :-)
[02-Dec-2008 11:12:09] **Dry> I want to send performance date to zenoss using XML/RPC. Is there convenient way to do it?
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[03-Dec-2008 01:25:57] **arfal> evening everyone
[03-Dec-2008 01:34:30] **hive> hi
[03-Dec-2008 02:11:22] **krphop> wtf
[03-Dec-2008 02:11:35] **krphop> still having issues iwth the default load average graph
[03-Dec-2008 02:12:00] **krphop> 1 minute and 15 minute always show 0 or near 0, 5 minute is the only one that goes above that
[03-Dec-2008 04:32:21] **yhoyo> hello...
[03-Dec-2008 05:31:12] **huggie> Hmm. Is there really no way to only alert once for say a VPN (rather than for all the devices behind it)?
[03-Dec-2008 05:36:56] **huggie> Ah, maybe zenping does it automatically. Better check I'm pinging everything.
[03-Dec-2008 07:01:52] **maaarek> Can anyone help me with snmp traps. How thing should be done with it. I have nice wifi ruter, what send out snmp traps and what can i do with it, as i have read i could read alot stuff from it... Or i am wrong?
[03-Dec-2008 09:24:09] **gf69> damn still getting the same error
[03-Dec-2008 09:26:29] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 09:31:31] **NoxIn-> does it ping from your zenoss box ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:31:46] **NoxIn-> does it works if you do a snmpwalk from the zenoss box ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:34:43] **gf69> no walk
[03-Dec-2008 09:34:50] **gf69> i can ping it though
[03-Dec-2008 09:35:28] **gf69> i used the sample config settings on the box being monitored
[03-Dec-2008 09:35:35] **gf69> made sure the ports are open
[03-Dec-2008 09:36:23] **NoxIn-> the snmp agent on nyfreetech.us is configured with the same cummunauty ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:36:46] **gf69> Yes
[03-Dec-2008 09:37:05] **gf69> both configs have rocommunity public
[03-Dec-2008 09:37:29] **gf69> on the zenoss box and the nyft
[03-Dec-2008 09:37:49] **gf69> the zenoss box has a webserver etc on it and it fully mapped itself
[03-Dec-2008 09:38:28] **NoxIn-> well as long as it don't work with snmpwalk, zenoss won't succeed either ... snmpwalk answer timeout ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:39:00] **gf69> Yes
[03-Dec-2008 09:39:05] **NoxIn-> can you dump the IP traffic on nyft to check if you see the snmp request incoming ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:39:59] **NoxIn-> (it timeout on nyfreetech.us from here too... but it's normal I suppose I get firewalled as my ip is not known)
[03-Dec-2008 09:41:15] **gf69> [LAN access from remote] from 67.241.241.179:61773 to 192.168.1.100:161
[03-Dec-2008 09:41:23] **gf69> theres in my router...lemme look on the box too
[03-Dec-2008 09:41:34] **gf69> i set my router to allow ping replies
[03-Dec-2008 09:45:53] **NoxIn-> you have something like tcpdump on nyfr ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:46:05] **gf69> ya
[03-Dec-2008 09:47:04] **NoxIn-> and when you do snmpwalk you see the snmp request coming ?
[03-Dec-2008 09:47:51] **gf69> whats the udp switch for tcpdump?
[03-Dec-2008 09:48:07] **gf69> in the router...gotta check the box yet
[03-Dec-2008 09:48:27] **NoxIn-> tcpdump port 161
[03-Dec-2008 09:48:51] **NoxIn-> eventualy tcpdump -i eth... port 161 if it's not on eth0
[03-Dec-2008 09:50:22] **gf69> 10:49:58.559774 IP cpe-67-241-241-179.stny.res.rr.com.63394 > nyfreetech.local.snmp: GetRequest(94) E:2435.2.3.9.4.2.1.5.5.6.0 [|snmp]
[03-Dec-2008 09:50:22] **gf69> 10:50:02.434750 IP cpe-67-241-241-179.stny.res.rr.com.49159 > nyfreetech.local.snmp: GetRequest(102) 43.13.4.1.9.1.1 [|snmp]
[03-Dec-2008 09:51:05] **NoxIn-> this is on the routeur I guess ? so looks like nyfreetech.local doesn't answer
[03-Dec-2008 09:51:23] **gf69> that was a tcpdump on the box
[03-Dec-2008 09:51:28] **gf69> 161/udp open|filtered snmp
[03-Dec-2008 09:52:21] **NoxIn-> it was on the 192.168.1.100 ? then you don't have a network problem the box receive the request but don't respond
[03-Dec-2008 09:52:44] **NoxIn-> either the snmpd is down... or it don't accept the authorisation
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:17] **gf69> i get an error in zenoss when i try to ping nyft from the ui
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:19] **NoxIn-> you may have more info in the systems logs
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> Command: ping -c2 ${device/manageIp}
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> Description:
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> Output:
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> ==== nyfreetech.us ====
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:38] **gf69> ping -c2 74.69.187.142
[03-Dec-2008 09:53:39] **gf69> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
[03-Dec-2008 09:54:28] **NoxIn-> that's strange
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[03-Dec-2008 10:29:29] **magnachef> gf69: still battling that router? :-)
[03-Dec-2008 10:35:48] **gf69> battling it all
[03-Dec-2008 10:40:06] **Firestar> I'm having a terrible time getting zenbackup to work
[03-Dec-2008 10:40:33] **Firestar> Even if I have Zenoss running, I still see "Unable to get mysql info from zeo. Looks like zeo is not running."
[03-Dec-2008 10:53:31] **magnachef> is zeo running?
[03-Dec-2008 10:56:50] **Firestar> How do I start zeo?
[03-Dec-2008 10:57:17] **magnachef> I think you can run "zeo start" as zenoss user
[03-Dec-2008 10:58:11] **Firestar> Where is zeo?
[03-Dec-2008 10:58:18] **Firestar> bash: zeo: command not found
[03-Dec-2008 11:02:01] **Firestar> Shouldn't it be running if Zenoss is running?
[03-Dec-2008 12:11:32] **MAlexHerron> firestar... check in the bin directory... i believe it is zeoctl start
[03-Dec-2008 12:11:45] **MAlexHerron> sorry for being an hour later than you asked the question
[03-Dec-2008 12:11:57] **MAlexHerron> oh, he's not even here anymore... whatever
[03-Dec-2008 12:39:29] **Cosmin> is anyone using zenoss to monitor only http?
[03-Dec-2008 12:44:07] **LarsN> Cosmin: We "also" monitor http on a few machines with multiple sites.
[03-Dec-2008 12:44:07] **LarsN> The new version of Zenoss appears to break some core functionality we rely on.
[03-Dec-2008 12:46:42] **Cosmin>
[03-Dec-2008 12:47:06] **Cosmin> do you use the apache plugin or not?
[03-Dec-2008 13:29:39] **Cosmin> hmm
[03-Dec-2008 13:29:45] **Cosmin> im trying to add a data source
[03-Dec-2008 13:29:49] **Cosmin> for one of the templates
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:07] **Cosmin> and it shows like its working
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:16] **Cosmin> but it justs sits there
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:21] **Cosmin> and if i close it
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:34] **Cosmin> and try to do something else zenoss doesnt repond anymore
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:43] **Cosmin> and i have to restart it
[03-Dec-2008 13:30:51] **Cosmin> anyone have any ideeas?
[03-Dec-2008 13:34:37] **magnachef> I'm thinking you should check for errors with it in zenperfsnmp.log file
[03-Dec-2008 13:39:10] **Cosmin> yeah.. i`m tailing all the logs and nothing...
[03-Dec-2008 13:39:11] **Cosmin>
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:33] **Cosmin> yeah...
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:33] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:45 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:34] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:45 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:34] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:45 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:35] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:47 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:38] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:47 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:41] **Cosmin> Dec 3 09:37:47 zenoss .python.bin: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: /usr/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[03-Dec-2008 13:40:44] **Cosmin> anyone seen this before?
[03-Dec-2008 13:41:19] **Cosmin> seems f up
[03-Dec-2008 14:12:43] **Cosmin> 64 bit issue
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[03-Dec-2008 15:13:01] **gf69> magnachef i cant get squat to work
[03-Dec-2008 15:13:21] **gf69> the only one that zenoss picked up and got all the proper info for was the box it is on
[03-Dec-2008 15:13:51] **gf69> i also tried adding a colobrus system and i get the same snmp settings error when modeling device
[03-Dec-2008 15:13:52] **magnachef> sounds like Zenoss is ok, but your access to other machines is still the issue
[03-Dec-2008 15:15:28] **gf69> i even tried monitoring just http on it as per this page http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[03-Dec-2008 15:15:35] **adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Dec-2008 15:22:11] **magnachef> can you do a curl of the website from the zenoss server?
[03-Dec-2008 15:23:10] **gf69> curl?
[03-Dec-2008 15:23:34] **magnachef> it's a unix utility to grab websites
[03-Dec-2008 15:24:24] **gf69> ya it came up with the source code
[03-Dec-2008 15:24:28] **gf69> of the index page
[03-Dec-2008 15:24:59] **magnachef> are you putting it in the right device class and turning off snmp monitoring of it?
[03-Dec-2008 15:25:55] **chudler> is support.zenoss.com down?
[03-Dec-2008 15:26:27] **gf69> ya i added the class and the plugin for http as per that link i posted
[03-Dec-2008 15:27:27] **Firestar> chudler, appears to be
[03-Dec-2008 15:28:04] **Firestar> I'm trying to upgrade an enterprise appliance from 2.1.2 -> 2.2, and I'm getting this error:
[03-Dec-2008 15:28:46] **Firestar> group-zenoss-enterprise was not found on branches /zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:enterprise-2.2
[03-Dec-2008 15:42:58] **Firestar> no ideas?
[03-Dec-2008 15:59:31] **killing-joke> hi. is there an easy way to bulk load a few hundred devices into a new install? i have a kind of large env.
[03-Dec-2008 15:59:50] **Cosmin> discovery?
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:10] **killing-joke> it has been up for a week, and it has found two hosts
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:22] **killing-joke> one is itself
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:41] **Cosmin> then you dont have zenoss allowed to get them'
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:48] **killing-joke> the network is huge and flat, and a bunch of snmp available
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:48] **Cosmin> iptables or the firewall
[03-Dec-2008 16:00:52] **Cosmin> access-list
[03-Dec-2008 16:01:01] **killing-joke> i'll check the gateways. thanks.
[03-Dec-2008 16:01:21] **Cosmin> try pinging from the zenoss host
[03-Dec-2008 16:02:47] **killing-joke> hmmm. it works.
[03-Dec-2008 16:02:55] **killing-joke> icmp does, that is.
[03-Dec-2008 16:06:11] **Cosmin> for a server that was not discovered?
[03-Dec-2008 16:06:42] **killing-joke> yes. i added a /Ping device, and zendisc ran, but it errored out
[03-Dec-2008 16:07:06] **killing-joke> does zendisc take CIDR addresses? or some other wildcard?
[03-Dec-2008 16:07:37] **Cosmin> what error di you get?
[03-Dec-2008 16:09:12] **killing-joke> Error: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): Products.ZenModel.Exceptions.NoIPAddress: No IP found for name 10.x.0.0/16 ]
[03-Dec-2008 16:09:32] **killing-joke> x = some big networks in house
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:11] **Cosmin> device is different then subnet
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:11] **Cosmin>
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:22] **Cosmin> when you add a device you need to add one ip
[03-Dec-2008 16:11:31] **Cosmin> if you want to add more you need to dicover them
[03-Dec-2008 16:12:29] **killing-joke> is there an API i can feed the IPs to?
[03-Dec-2008 16:12:39] **killing-joke> i will just write a script to spit out a bunch
[03-Dec-2008 16:16:41] **killing-joke> a quick grep through the list of hardware shows over 700 infrastructure devices. switches, ip kvms, terminal servers, etc.
[03-Dec-2008 16:16:56] **killing-joke> it would be a bit of effort to type them in one at a time.
[03-Dec-2008 16:18:07] **chudler> try the dev guide at . Chapter 7: Adding Devices Programatically
[03-Dec-2008 16:18:15] **adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Dec-2008 16:18:16] **killing-joke> cool!
[03-Dec-2008 16:19:12] **chudler> personally, I just do "wget http://user:password@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=10.12.0.99&devicePath=/Devices/Server/"
[03-Dec-2008 16:19:13] **adytum-bot> chudler: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[03-Dec-2008 16:20:13] **killing-joke> ... where device name is the not-yet-known device IP? >:)
[03-Dec-2008 16:20:41] **chudler> wait, I missed the part where you didn't know your devices ip (?)
[03-Dec-2008 16:20:54] **killing-joke> i do. i have a large range.
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:11] **killing-joke> i could loop over a list, with deviceName=$iter
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:22] **killing-joke> or $index, or whatever
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:24] **chudler> exactly
[03-Dec-2008 16:21:42] **killing-joke> hee hee hee. gonna try it. i'll start with a hundred.
[03-Dec-2008 16:22:37] **killing-joke> if i only want to ping them at first, should i use /Device/Ping? if i do, can i add more monitoring as another service later?
[03-Dec-2008 16:23:39] **chudler> yeah, I guess so, but it may try to do snmp when the device is loaded. I've never put devices in that class.
[03-Dec-2008 16:24:31] **gf69> man i still get this damned thing to work
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:14] **killing-joke> coolness ... Result: Discovered device ${IPv4}
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:29] **killing-joke> it did try snmp no harm done
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:50] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 16:25:57] **gf69> ive been through everything
[03-Dec-2008 16:27:20] **killing-joke> wget works. i pipe the html to grep "zen\.ZenDisc" for quick logging.
[03-Dec-2008 16:40:57] **killing-joke> gf69 what kind of device are you trying to collect SNMP from?
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:23] **killing-joke> Cosmin: many thanks!
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:44] **killing-joke> chudler: this process seems to be reliable, but it is certainly not swift.
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:52] **Cosmin> did you find it?
[03-Dec-2008 16:43:57] **killing-joke> maybe i should get a faster box
[03-Dec-2008 16:44:08] **killing-joke> Cosmin: i am faking them into the db
[03-Dec-2008 16:44:20] **Cosmin> cool
[03-Dec-2008 16:44:41] **killing-joke> it is great! i am in your debt, guys.
[03-Dec-2008 16:48:11] **Cosmin> beer
[03-Dec-2008 16:48:12] **Cosmin>
)[03-Dec-2008 16:49:44] **krphop> yeah, so the default install of 2.3 is jacked up for querying load
[03-Dec-2008 16:58:16] **gf69> trying to monitor a web server in a remote location from the zenoss machine
[03-Dec-2008 16:58:40] **gf69> eventually we are going to use it to monitor colubrus systems
[03-Dec-2008 16:59:00] **gf69> which i tried setting one of them in zenoss to no avail
[03-Dec-2008 16:59:12] **gf69> it tosses the same error as nyft does
[03-Dec-2008 17:10:48] **killing-joke> gf69, i would go through any firewalls at the colo by 1) setting up a restricted ssh with an RSA key 2) making that ssh tunnel the SNMP port 3) putting the ssh in a cron job
[03-Dec-2008 17:10:52] **killing-joke> for starters
[03-Dec-2008 17:11:11] **killing-joke> you can set up a correct tunnel to the colo after the monitoring is working correctly
[03-Dec-2008 17:12:50] **killing-joke> then you can tell your zenoss to check snmp on 127.0.0.1:1600000 (or wherever) and it will go through the loopback, out the tunnel, through the fw(s), and straight to your machine in the colo
[03-Dec-2008 17:13:25] **killing-joke> not tidy, but quick and simple. uses off-the-shelf parts you probably already have.
[03-Dec-2008 17:15:29] **killing-joke> if you have a lot of systems to monitor -- more than 20 or so -- you should have your own VPN into the cage
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:05] **gf69> 3 systems all remote from ea other
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:20] **gf69> the zenoss box the colubris system and the server(nyfreetech)
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:24] **killing-joke> does the colo provide firewall?
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:40] **gf69> not sure.....i can look through it
[03-Dec-2008 17:30:50] **killing-joke> do you have root on these servers?
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:00] **killing-joke> or "Administrator"?
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:09] **gf69> i also installed the colubris zenpack and added it to the list of items scanned when you model a device
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:24] **gf69> i have a gui login for the colubris machine and root to the other 2
[03-Dec-2008 17:31:33] **killing-joke> excellent
[03-Dec-2008 17:32:40] **killing-joke> from the zenoss box, can you telnet to the SNMP port of the colo'ed hosts? usually tcp/161
[03-Dec-2008 17:33:06] **killing-joke> like this ... telnet 266.311.21.4 161
[03-Dec-2008 17:44:43] **gf69> telnet: connect to address 99.51.203.217: Connection refused
[03-Dec-2008 17:44:43] **gf69> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[03-Dec-2008 17:44:57] **gf69> thats the colubris machine
[03-Dec-2008 17:47:00] **killing-joke> right. i would hope that the public IP would not have an exposed login. so ...
[03-Dec-2008 17:47:12] **killing-joke> do you have a VPN into these cages?
[03-Dec-2008 17:47:30] **killing-joke> or do you use three different IPs with SSH?
[03-Dec-2008 17:48:11] **killing-joke> or something else?
[03-Dec-2008 17:48:57] **gf69> the colubris box i have just the gui login for the machine and the other 2 i use ssh via domain
[03-Dec-2008 17:49:15] **gf69> both are webservers +
[03-Dec-2008 17:49:42] **gf69> i also have webmin on them as well as cpanel/whm on the zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 17:50:27] **killing-joke> do you have SNMP services on the two GUI boxes that you can use to push the info out?
[03-Dec-2008 17:50:59] **killing-joke> instead of using zenoss to get the data, can you tell the other machines to push it?
[03-Dec-2008 17:51:37] **gf69> i have snmp installed on nyfreetech
[03-Dec-2008 17:52:18] **killing-joke> on your Zenoss box, you can try ...
[03-Dec-2008 17:52:56] **killing-joke> ssh -L 11061:localhost:161 root@nyfreetech.wherever
[03-Dec-2008 17:53:26] **killing-joke> and then point Zenoss at the SNMP server that is listening at the end of the little tunnel
[03-Dec-2008 17:53:43] **killing-joke> local end would be at 127.0.0.1:11061 on Zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 17:54:13] **gf69> ok i ssh to nyft from the zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 17:54:21] **killing-joke> if you exit the ssh session, the tunnel comes down, though/ this is a temporary workaround.
[03-Dec-2008 17:54:30] **killing-joke> right, with the tunnel args
[03-Dec-2008 17:55:18] **gf69> now with the ssh tunnel in place, how to i point zenoss at it
[03-Dec-2008 17:55:43] **killing-joke> ah. i'm a zenoss n00b. wait 1.
[03-Dec-2008 17:56:23] **killing-joke> Add Device > Attributes
[03-Dec-2008 17:56:31] **killing-joke> Name: 127.0.0.1
[03-Dec-2008 17:56:43] **killing-joke> SNMP Port: 11061 (or whatever you used)
[03-Dec-2008 17:57:27] **gf69> ssh -L 11061:localhost:161 root@nyfreetech.us used this
[03-Dec-2008 17:57:38] **killing-joke> looks good
[03-Dec-2008 17:59:14] **killing-joke> chudler, hey, i am filling my db up with crud and garbage. now i have about 8% dead or non-responding IPs. the delete func is a javascript thingie.
[03-Dec-2008 17:59:24] **killing-joke> can you think of a way to automate that?
[03-Dec-2008 18:02:19] **gf69> Device localhost timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:09] **gf69> agent side is the machine being monitored by zenoss?
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> Ensure that there is an SNMP daemon running on the target device. To determine if the daemon is
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> running, issue this command:
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> netstat -an | grep -i udp
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> If you see an entry that looks like this, then the agent is running but Zenoss cannot get the
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:32] **gf69> information for another reason:
[03-Dec-2008 18:27:33] **gf69> udp 0.0.0.0:161 0.0.0.0:*
[03-Dec-2008 18:38:57] **killing-joke> hmmm.
[03-Dec-2008 18:39:15] **killing-joke> udp only?
[03-Dec-2008 18:40:20] **gf69> i just killed my firewall on nyfreetch and did a model device and got same thing
[03-Dec-2008 18:40:29] **gf69> so i can rule out the firewall stopping it
[03-Dec-2008 18:42:07] **gf69> nope same thing
[03-Dec-2008 18:42:37] **killing-joke> gf69, can you reconfigure the service to listen on tcp as well as (or instead of) udp?
[03-Dec-2008 18:42:55] **killing-joke> ssh tunnels tcp very well, and as far as i cna find out, udp not at all
[03-Dec-2008 18:58:29] **killing-joke> about 22% of my mass-loaded IPs turned out to have moved, crashed, or otherwise achieved dud-hood
[03-Dec-2008 18:58:37] **killing-joke> how can i mass delete?
[03-Dec-2008 19:08:01] **gf69> tcpdump port 161 -vvv
[03-Dec-2008 19:08:01] **gf69> tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[03-Dec-2008 19:08:01] **gf69> 20:07:26.983432 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 53, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 64) server2.wifirvclub.com.56088 > nyfreetech.local.snmp: [udp sum ok] { SNMPv2c { GetNextRequest(21) R=153995175 .iso.org } }
[03-Dec-2008 19:18:42] **killing-joke> hey!
[03-Dec-2008 19:18:54] **killing-joke> does that mean it works now?
[03-Dec-2008 19:20:12] **killing-joke> i have an ugly toadlike hack for mass-deletion that may be under your threshhold of repetitive strain injury
[03-Dec-2008 19:20:57] **killing-joke> for IP in `cat ip-list`; do links http://admin:*password*@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Ping/devices/${IP}/dialog_deleteDevice; done
[03-Dec-2008 19:20:57] **adytum-bot> killing-joke: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[03-Dec-2008 19:22:08] **killing-joke> if the list is under a hundred or so, you hit enter for each one, then quit eLinks. lather. rinse, repeat repeat repeat.
[03-Dec-2008 19:22:36] **killing-joke> it's a few hundred keystrokes
[03-Dec-2008 19:35:39] **gf69> wanna hear something real funny?
[03-Dec-2008 19:35:52] **gf69> i can snmpwalk the zenoss box from nyfreetech
[03-Dec-2008 19:35:58] **killing-joke> how!?
[03-Dec-2008 19:36:42] **gf69> snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 2c 74.200.217.178
[03-Dec-2008 19:36:53] **gf69> from nyfreetech tunred up a bunch of output
[03-Dec-2008 19:36:59] **gf69> to the point i had to stop it lol
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:16] **gf69> and if i replace the ip for localhost on nyft, it will walk itself
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:20] **killing-joke> well cool
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:42] **killing-joke> be sure to firewall off the snmp port so only your hosts can walk it
[03-Dec-2008 19:37:51] **gf69> but if i snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 2c nyfreetech.us from the zenoss box it times out no response
[03-Dec-2008 19:38:23] **gf69> in my wall on nyft i made it allow all traffic from zenoss box
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:06] **killing-joke> so there
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:12] **killing-joke> you got it all going
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:14] **killing-joke> cool!
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:15] **gf69> No
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:25] **killing-joke> half of it! open a beer!
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:32] **gf69> same output for nyft in zenoss
[03-Dec-2008 19:39:38] **killing-joke> oh
[03-Dec-2008 19:40:34] **gf69> Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?
[03-Dec-2008 19:40:47] **gf69> beer nuthin
[03-Dec-2008 19:41:07] **gf69> i got a glass of watermelon pucker bacardi 151 and apple zima sittin here
[03-Dec-2008 19:41:20] **gf69> tastes just like jolly rancher candies
[03-Dec-2008 19:41:26] **gf69> with kick
[03-Dec-2008 19:47:37] **killing-joke> that'll strip the shine off of the nicest girls morals
[03-Dec-2008 19:55:15] **arfal> hello all
[03-Dec-2008 19:55:34] **arfal> my zenhub won't start
[03-Dec-2008 19:55:37] **arfal> any idea?
[03-Dec-2008 21:33:49] **arfal> mt zenhub won't start after I reconfigure my zenoss server time to an earlier time
[03-Dec-2008 21:33:56] **arfal> my zenhub won't start after I reconfigure my zenoss server time to an earlier time
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[04-Dec-2008 06:17:14] **gf69> my linux box will snmpwalk the zenoss box and it will walk itself via localhost but if i try to walk itself via ip0 or domain, it gets no response
[04-Dec-2008 06:22:05] **maarek> what to i do with mibs in zenoss, after i am done installing them?
[04-Dec-2008 06:32:52] **gf69> wooot i can model my linux box in zenoss
[04-Dec-2008 06:33:46] **gf69> if anyone has any trouble with the error Device nyfreetech.us timed out: are your SNMP settings correct? and you try everything in the forums and it still tosses the error do this
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> Thanks for your tip. At first I couldn't find where the 127.0.0.1 was
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> coming from on Etch, but after some digging around I found
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:13] **gf69> 127.0.0.1' (this is SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:38] **gf69> I found
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:44] **gf69> dammit
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:59] **gf69> etc/defaults/snmpd (I always forget this folder)
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:59] **gf69> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid
[04-Dec-2008 06:34:59] **gf69> 127.0.0.1' (this is SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:22] **gf69> go to /etc/default edit snmpd file in there look for this line
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:35] **gf69> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1'
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:53] **gf69> take off the 127.0.0.1 so it reads SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid'
[04-Dec-2008 06:36:57] **gf69> and it will work
[04-Dec-2008 06:37:17] **gf69> this is a debian fix not sure how many distros it will work in
[04-Dec-2008 07:48:40] **gnov> Hi all
[04-Dec-2008 07:50:26] **gnov> Anyone know when the data would be off by exactly 1 day on all events logged in zenoss? I just checked the date on the server (using the date command) and it is correct. Zenoss is time stamping things a day ahead. What could be causing this?
[04-Dec-2008 07:53:43] **gnov> It is only wrong on the Events page for an object... If I click the event for details the date is correct.
[04-Dec-2008 08:20:51] **NoxIn-> gf69: SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1'
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:03] **NoxIn-> your snmp agent listen only on localhost
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:10] **NoxIn-> remove the "127.0.0.1"
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:18] **NoxIn-> oops sorry
[04-Dec-2008 08:21:32] **NoxIn-> didn't read until the end
[04-Dec-2008 08:59:37] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[04-Dec-2008 09:00:12] **raddy> Is it possible to configure Zenoss to ignore some process's status?
[04-Dec-2008 09:10:21] **raddy> Anybody there?
[04-Dec-2008 09:58:41] __jason__ is now known as jrszenoss
[04-Dec-2008 09:59:28] **mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening
[04-Dec-2008 10:01:36] **mrayzenoss> so... any questions?
[04-Dec-2008 10:03:26] **andrewp> I use Zenoss to monitor uptime and response time of websites. Recently I've found that I can no longer add new ones to my installation because two 'devices' can no longer share an IP.
[04-Dec-2008 10:03:55] **andrewp> I've seen a couple of workarounds, but will this behavior go away in the future?
[04-Dec-2008 10:06:12] **mrayzenoss> andrewp: I didn't think you could do 2 machines to the same IP
[04-Dec-2008 10:06:52] **chudler> I think he is referring to Apache virtual hosts or similar setups
[04-Dec-2008 10:07:01] **LarsN> How would you monitor multiple websites by URL hosted in a shared environment on a single server then?
[04-Dec-2008 10:08:37] **andrewp> Yeah, I was referring to a virutal hosting environment.
[04-Dec-2008 10:08:50] **jrszenoss> andrewp: I would love to see websites modeled as components of devices. It would solve this and other problems people have monitoring websites. I don't think it's in the cards anytime soon however.
[04-Dec-2008 10:09:08] **jrszenoss> andrewp: I know that doesn't help you any right now
[04-Dec-2008 10:09:34] **jrszenoss> What workaround have you used?
[04-Dec-2008 10:13:09] **andrewp> I haven't used any workarounds yet. I thought about trying to add devices at the Zope level because the monitoring and perf data for the old sites added in previous releases is still workikng perfectly.
[04-Dec-2008 10:13:37] **andrewp> But that's too hack-ish. I wanted to see what you guys thought would be the best way to do this.
[04-Dec-2008 10:17:45] **jrszenoss> I'm not sure that there is a good solution currently. What would you like to use to monitor the sites - HttpMonitor? ZenWebTx? other?
[04-Dec-2008 10:19:44] **mrayzenoss> So how is 2.3 working out for people?
[04-Dec-2008 10:21:23] **chudler> upgrade went very smoothly and no real problems.
[04-Dec-2008 10:21:52] **andrewp> jrszenoss: I currently use the Nagios check_http plugin but getting away from that would be nice
[04-Dec-2008 10:22:41] **jrszenoss> andrewp: If you are just simply hitting a few pages you could create HttpMonitor datasources for each one, setting Host Name to the url you want to check rather than the default. This is burdensome for many sites/pages but works for reasonable number.
[04-Dec-2008 10:22:44] **atrawog> 2.3 is working fine. Except the ShowGraph ZenPack which won't install in 2.3.
[04-Dec-2008 10:23:35] **jrszenoss> andrewp: HttpMonitor is using check_http in the background to do the lifting. The datasource fields will look familiar if you've used check_http
[04-Dec-2008 10:23:42] **mrayzenoss> I'm still working on setting up the Community ZenPack site, I'm sure there are a bunch of simple fixes that could be applied to a lot of the ZenPacks to get them straightened out (like ShowGraph)
[04-Dec-2008 10:24:14] **mrayzenoss> I haven't announced it yet because it's not ready, but there is a Community ZenPack SVN/Trac site going up soon
[04-Dec-2008 10:24:14] **mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/
[04-Dec-2008 10:28:02] **andrewp> jrszenoss: I'll have to give that a try
[04-Dec-2008 10:30:14] **atrawog> mrayzenoss: Will the Community Trac site have different accounts than http://dev.zenoss.com ?
[04-Dec-2008 10:30:49] **mrayzenoss> unfortunately yes, we don't have single sign on for the Trac stuff yet
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:04] **mrayzenoss> I can make them use the same passwords and account names though
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:27] **mrayzenoss> eventually we'll have SSO for the website, forums, and trac
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:35] **mrayzenoss> right now just website and forums
[04-Dec-2008 10:31:42] **chudler> would there be any way to set an Escalate count on every event occurring under an organizer?
[04-Dec-2008 10:33:28] **mrayzenoss> so every time there is an event of a certain type, escalate?
[04-Dec-2008 10:33:59] **mrayzenoss> here's a patch for escalating severity based on the count of syslog: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3510
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:02] **malbon> hola folks
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:08] **mrayzenoss> greetings magnachef
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:13] **mrayzenoss> oops, malbon
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:31] **magnachef> I running Zenoss 2.1.3, but I'm finding an issue with devices that have multiple IPs, with multiple services bound to each IP (apache, lighttpd, mysql, etc). When I try and monitor the device via the management IP, it will see the services listening at the IPs, but those services will fail until I add the production IP that the services are listening on
[04-Dec-2008 10:34:41] **magnachef> greetings mray
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:05] **chudler> Has there been any thought towards defining templates in places other than the Devices tree?
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:31] **mrayzenoss> chudler: what are you proposing?
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:54] **jrszenoss> chudler: Not that I'm aware of. We have templates defined at the Monitors also, but that's sort of a special case.
[04-Dec-2008 10:37:58] **malbon> mrayzenoss: are there any JMX guru's here today?
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:10] **cgibbons> oh i bet we could find out.
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:12] **cgibbons> er one.
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:16] **chudler> Systems/Groups/Locations that have templates the same way that Devices do. I don't know how feasible it is.
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:23] **dcnoye> did someone log the meeting that was @ 11am ?
[04-Dec-2008 10:38:28] **mrayzenoss> malbon: I know there's one, sometimes he's shy
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:00] **chudler> It would solve some problems for me, such as organizing and monitoring things by system, even though they are running different OS/hardware.
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:07] **malbon> mrayzenoss: exellent
best asset of a good programmer.[04-Dec-2008 10:39:18] **mrayzenoss> dcnoye: I'm logging it. It'll be up later
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:27] **gf69> magnachef
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:39] **magnachef> gf69
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:39] **dcnoye> thanks mrayzenoss
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:42] **gf69> it maps my server...finally
[04-Dec-2008 10:39:53] **magnachef> nice...what was the issue?
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:17] **gf69> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/2455 halfway down this page
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:23] **malbon> ok, I have a small issue, one value is not being converted to an int, but it is being recieved by the zenjmx daemon properly. I have a pastebin here: http://pastebin.ca/1276008
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:27] **magnachef> does anyone have any thoughts about my question above? am I being clear enough?
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:31] **adytum-bot> Title: snmpwalk to remote address gives timeout | debianHELP (at www.debianhelp.org)
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:32] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1276008 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:48] **malbon> the 02 value is not being converted properly.
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:50] **gf69> had to go in /etc/default and edit the snmp file in there
[04-Dec-2008 10:40:58] **magnachef> ahhh
[04-Dec-2008 10:41:31] **jrszenoss> chudler: you can accomplish that now by defining templates at some common class higher up in the device tree then binding to devices on a case by case basis. This is one of those approaches that works okay for a few devices but would drive you mad if you tried to do this for dozens of devices.
[04-Dec-2008 10:42:15] **chudler> yeah, it works on a small scale.
[04-Dec-2008 10:42:58] **gf69> the file has a string with a 127.0.0.1 in it i took just the 127.0.0.1 out of it and it worked
[04-Dec-2008 10:43:07] **gf69> but
[04-Dec-2008 10:43:22] **gf69> i still cant get the colubris machine to work in it
[04-Dec-2008 10:43:50] **atrawog> magnachief: Best way is to define multiple devices in Zenoss and monitor every service on the IP address it is primarily running.
[04-Dec-2008 10:45:07] **malbon> so can anyone help me to find out why the value of 02 doesn't ever make it into an RRD file?
[04-Dec-2008 10:45:42] **magnachef> atrawog: unfortunately we have services running across multiple IPs
[04-Dec-2008 10:46:23] **magnachef> just due to the nature of our architecture
[04-Dec-2008 10:47:36] **malbon> here is another pastebin that clearly shows it isn't updating 02: http://pastebin.ca/1276018
[04-Dec-2008 10:47:47] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Dec-2008 10:49:53] **PCDudeX> Question - I'd like to be able to click a link on the device page that would display a graphic of the rack that the device is mounted on and display an indicator on the device to show its position. Is this doable?
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:03] **dcnoye> is there a debian repository for zenoss for etch ?
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:07] **PCDudeX> I'm using ver 2.3
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:50] **mrayzenoss> dcnoye: http://dev.zenoss.org/deb/
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:57] **adytum-bot> Title: Index of /deb (at dev.zenoss.org)
[04-Dec-2008 10:51:58] **dcnoye> thanks mrayzenoss
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:09] **mrayzenoss> PCDudeX: perhaps a zlink? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch10s17.html
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:21] **mrayzenoss> PCDudeX: you could use that to add a link to an image
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:35] **atrawog> magnachef:In most cases that doesn't make much of a difference. Because if a services dies listening on one IP it quite like stops working on ther other IPs too.
[04-Dec-2008 10:52:40] **mrayzenoss> PCDudeX: I also have a Zenoss/Deki mashup that would work for that
[04-Dec-2008 10:54:05] **chudler> mrayzenoss: that is very interesting. I started writing a flash app for zenoss to give datacenter map instead of google maps, but I am sure I won't have time to finish it.
[04-Dec-2008 10:56:07] **mrayzenoss> I wrote the Zenoss/Deki mashup for the LISA tradeshow, our booth was next to MindTouch. I'll put this up soon, my SourceForge project just got accepted. https://sourceforge.net/projects/zenossdeki/
[04-Dec-2008 10:56:11] **mrayzenoss> I'll blog it later
[04-Dec-2008 10:56:24] **adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss/Deki Mashup (at sourceforge.net)
[04-Dec-2008 10:57:10] **mrayzenoss> So to recap, things that I'm behind on: Zenoss/Deki mashup, Zenoss desktop tray applet and the Zenoss Community ZenPacks site
[04-Dec-2008 10:57:16] **magnachef> atrawog: but I have a one to one relationship with Services to IPs
[04-Dec-2008 10:57:31] **magnachef> not services across multiple IPs
[04-Dec-2008 11:00:18] **jplouis> malbon, can you get a screen shot of how you have the datasource configured?
[04-Dec-2008 11:00:55] **PCDudeX2> I'm back
[04-Dec-2008 11:01:11] **malbon> jplouis: yes sure.
[04-Dec-2008 11:02:05] **jplouis> malbon: what is the return type of the JMX operation you are calling?
[04-Dec-2008 11:02:27] **malbon> jplouis: hang on I'll get a screenshot.
[04-Dec-2008 11:02:42] **malbon> jplouis: email ok?
[04-Dec-2008 11:03:01] **jplouis> sure
[04-Dec-2008 11:05:38] **jplouis> malbon: The image didn't come through
[04-Dec-2008 11:05:50] **malbon> jplouis: hmm.
[04-Dec-2008 11:05:58] **jplouis> if you can open a ticket with the screen shot and the return type of the operation call I will look at it
[04-Dec-2008 11:07:02] **malbon> Ok, I've just sent it again anyway but this time as a jpeg.
[04-Dec-2008 11:09:18] **chudler> I am curious what (if anything) people are doing to prevent GET requests with user/pass logging when zenoss is served through apache.
[04-Dec-2008 11:11:22] **jplouis> malbon: got the image
[04-Dec-2008 11:11:34] **malbon> jplouis: cool.
[04-Dec-2008 11:11:53] **jplouis> malbon: maybe I don't understand the problem... I can see it is creating an rrd file for the 02 datapoint
[04-Dec-2008 11:12:00] **jplouis> malbon: DEBUG:zen.RRDUtil:create new rrd /opt/zenoss/perf/Devices/ukubs-p01-dc02/FX-RDF-EUR_02.rrd
[04-Dec-2008 11:15:12] **malbon> jplouis: yes, it makes an rrd, but never provides an 02 value
[04-Dec-2008 11:16:01] **malbon> jplouis: if you have a peek at http://pastebin.ca/1276018 you'll see it only updates 04 12 and 14 values.
[04-Dec-2008 11:16:08] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Dec-2008 11:17:08] **mrayzenoss> jrszenoss needs to get going, so I guess we'll wrap this up pretty soon
[04-Dec-2008 11:17:11] **malbon> jplouis: I'll catch up with you tomorrow, I have to be somewhere else now. Thanks for looking into it.
[04-Dec-2008 11:21:31] **jb> hi
[04-Dec-2008 11:21:34] **jb> you guys still around?
[04-Dec-2008 11:21:46] **mrayzenoss> yeah, jrszenoss is checking out soon
[04-Dec-2008 11:22:19] **jb> kpg here today?
[04-Dec-2008 11:22:42] **mrayzenoss> don't see him, I can find him
[04-Dec-2008 11:22:47] **jrszenoss> Lunchtime here, catch you folks later.
[04-Dec-2008 11:23:52] **jb> hey kells
[04-Dec-2008 11:23:54] **mrayzenoss> says he's on his way
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:00] **kells> G'day, g'day!
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:03] **kells> What's up?
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:28] **jb> wondering if you could give me a copy of your snmpd.conf for AIX?.. im going to test your zenpack in dev.. net-snmp is killing me on some boxes.
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:37] **jb> im digging thru the forums trying to find it
[04-Dec-2008 11:24:49] **jplouis> malbon: if you run zenjmx in a cycle does it not eventually get a value? I don't believe the derive type stores the actual value, it stores the rate if change over a step period
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:05] **kells> It'll have to be a little bit more artful as I don't have an actual AIX box here.
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:09] **kells> Hold on for a sec...
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:13] **jb> ah ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:25:40] **jb> thanks
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:03] **kells> VACM_GROUP group1 SNMPv1 public -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:03] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:04] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView internet - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:04] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:05] **kells> # exclude snmpv3 related MIBs from the default view
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:05] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView snmpModules - excluded -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:06] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.4 - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:08] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5 - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:10] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:12] **kells> # exclude aixmibd managed MIBs from the default view
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:14] **kells> #VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.191 - excluded -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:16] **kells> VACM_VIEW defaultView 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.191 - included -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:18] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:20] **kells> VACM_ACCESS group1 - - noAuthNoPriv SNMPv1 defaultView - defaultView -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:22] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:24] **kells> NOTIFY notify1 traptag trap -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:26] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:28] **kells> TARGET_ADDRESS Target1 UDP 127.0.0.1 traptag trapparms1 - - -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:30] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:32] **kells> TARGET_PARAMETERS trapparms1 SNMPv1 SNMPv1 public noAuthNoPriv -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:34] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:36] **kells> COMMUNITY public public noAuthNoPriv 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:38] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:40] **kells> DEFAULT_SECURITY no-access - -
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:42] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:44] **kells> logging file=/usr/tmp/snmpdv3.log enabled
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:46] **kells> logging size=100000 level=0
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:48] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:50] **kells> smux 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.3.1.2.1.2 gated_password # gated
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:52] **kells>
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:54] **kells> smux 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.3.1.2.3.1.1 muxatmd_password #muxatmd
[04-Dec-2008 11:29:56] **kells> smux 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.3.1.2.1.3 xmservd_pw # xmservd
[04-Dec-2008 11:30:00] **kells> You'll also need xmservd stuff set up in order to get some of the params from the MIB
[04-Dec-2008 11:30:15] **kells> The following should also show output: snmpinfo -m dump -v -c public -h localhost 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.191
[04-Dec-2008 11:33:28] **jb> sorry had to step away
[04-Dec-2008 11:33:41] **jb> the xmservd stuff?
[04-Dec-2008 11:34:39] **kells> The AIX performance toolbox client that used to be sold separately is now bundled with AIX as of errrr... at least 5.3
[04-Dec-2008 11:35:30] **jb> oh nice
[04-Dec-2008 11:35:37] **jb> just got to find that
[04-Dec-2008 11:35:37] **jb> hmm
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:03] **jb> looks like it needs to be installed separately?
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:22] **kells> There's a separate package in the AIX base install.
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:36] **kells> The entry in /etc/inetd.conf for it will be something like: xmquery dgram udp wait root /usr/bin/xmtopas xmtopas -p3
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:53] **jb> heh, yeah without the mib only returns 170 OID's
[04-Dec-2008 11:36:56] **jb> that seems low
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:04] **jb> ms1 - - -
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:05] **jb>
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:06] **jb> oops
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:17] **jb> root@fc-zenoss01:/tmp$ snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname .1 | wc -l
[04-Dec-2008 11:37:19] **jb> 170
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:30] **kells> Sorry, I don't have an AIX box lying around so you'll have to take what I say at the moment with a large block of salt.
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:46] **jb> haha ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:47] **kells> We're working on fixing that though.
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:48] **jb> no probs
[04-Dec-2008 11:38:58] **jb> zen needs to get you one
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:07] **jb> i would be willing to donate hardware
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:10] **jb> if needed.
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:35] **jb> just let me know who I need to talk to..
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:40] **kells> We're looking at picking up a basic desktop style box for simple sanity checking.
[04-Dec-2008 11:39:51] **kells> That would be Matt Ray
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:01] **jb> i actually have a b52 or whatever already boxed up sitting right next to me
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:04] **kells> Do you happen to have an HMC set up?
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:16] **kells> Oh cool!
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:18] **jb> yeah
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:24] **jb> do you guys need some b50's?
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:31] **jb> i know that they are old.. but they do AIX 5.3 fine
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:43] **kells> I think that would be quite helpful actually!
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:46] **jb> ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:40:48] **jb> i'll contact matt
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:17] **jb> yes, we have HMC's here
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:22] **jb> if you need me to test something
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:25] **mrayzenoss> jb: yes?
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:37] **jb> mrayzenoss.. i'd like to donate some IBM pSeries hardware
[04-Dec-2008 11:41:40] **jb> for testing
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:08] **mrayzenoss> jb: sounds great
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:27] **mrayzenoss> why don't you email me at mray@zenoss.com and we'll handle the details offline
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:28] **jb> want me to give you a call about it?
[04-Dec-2008 11:42:30] **jb> ok
[04-Dec-2008 11:46:21] **jb> will do..
[04-Dec-2008 11:55:31] **kells> Back to the salt mines for me! Thanks again JB!
[04-Dec-2008 12:13:37] **Firestar_> How do I configure ZenModeller _not_ to model a device every 12/whatever hours?
[04-Dec-2008 12:15:33] **magnachef> you can run it from cron, or change a variable in the config
[04-Dec-2008 12:36:25] **gf69> how do I get it to show multiple devices on the google map on the main page. I can only see where it has me put in the main device
[04-Dec-2008 12:36:52] **gf69> base location
[04-Dec-2008 12:49:26] LarsN is now known as LarsN-Away
[04-Dec-2008 12:58:36] **rhett__> is there a known problem w/ nested location appearing on google maps portlet?
[04-Dec-2008 13:11:42] **rhett__> has any one used the openlayer zenpack?
[04-Dec-2008 13:18:21] **mrayzenoss> gf69: on the Google Map portlet, go to the settings and change the Base Location to the sublocation you want, like /Locations/Denver
[04-Dec-2008 13:19:38] **mrayzenoss> rhett: there is a bit of an issue if you leave out parts of the map hierarchy: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3753
[04-Dec-2008 13:22:28] **rhett__> ah yes. i was trying to use L1 as an organizer for a specific location and branches of that location (two under L1 in my current case). then just used addressing for the lower levels
[04-Dec-2008 13:23:28] **rhett__> which im sure other ppl have done as well
[04-Dec-2008 13:24:13] **mrayzenoss> just make the L1 something general, like the state or city
[04-Dec-2008 13:24:36] **rhett__> will do
[04-Dec-2008 13:25:06] **rhett__> well look at that
[04-Dec-2008 13:25:09] **rhett__> its like magic
[04-Dec-2008 13:25:20] **mrayzenoss> I like magic
[04-Dec-2008 13:26:29] **gf69> how do I get it to show multiple devices on the google map on the main page. I can only see where it has me put in the base location
[04-Dec-2008 13:26:42] **blaylock> anyone know why zenmodeler fails to model a device but I can snmpwalk that same device with success?
[04-Dec-2008 13:26:52] **rhett__> :O well this makes my openlayer zenpack question moot
[04-Dec-2008 13:27:38] **mrayzenoss> gf69: It's just going to show the sub-locations under the /Location you specify
[04-Dec-2008 13:28:05] **mrayzenoss> so if you have 3 cities under /Locations it'll map the 3
[04-Dec-2008 13:28:18] **mrayzenoss> assuming they're all right off of /Locations
[04-Dec-2008 13:28:40] **mrayzenoss> and the devices need to be associated with a location
[04-Dec-2008 13:30:19] **gf69> devices are associated with locations
[04-Dec-2008 13:30:37] **rhett__> now all i have to is wait till 2.4 for this to work the way id like
[04-Dec-2008 13:30:39] **rhett__> thanks mrayzenoss
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:14] **mrayzenoss> rhett__: you can add yourself to the CC field to track the defect, and then patch your system when it goes in if you're feeling adventurous
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:39] **rhett__> im always living on the edge
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:39] **gf69> they are locations/new york/elmira locations/iowa/cedar falls amd locations/pennsylvania/gettysburg
[04-Dec-2008 13:31:48] **gf69> and*
[04-Dec-2008 13:32:46] **mrayzenoss> gf69: and nothing is mapping? Do you have addresses for /Locations/New York Iowa and Pennsylvania?
[04-Dec-2008 13:32:59] **mrayzenoss> like just the state in the address field?
[04-Dec-2008 13:33:25] **gf69> i have full street addresses of the 3
[04-Dec-2008 13:33:52] **mrayzenoss> yeah, that's like what I was just referring rhett__ to. You have to put something at each layer of the /Locations for it to map
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:08] **gf69> if i change the base location to locations/ it shows nothing
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:30] **gf69> if i change it to locations/statename it shows just the one in that state
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:53] **gf69> perhaps if i made a location called usa then put the states under it would that work?
[04-Dec-2008 13:34:54] **mrayzenoss> yeah, so it only maps the immediate next layer
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:00] **gf69> and changed it in each 1
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:16] **mrayzenoss> well, if you put in addresses for the 3 states, it should work
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:45] **mrayzenoss> since your hierarchy is /L1/L2 with 3 L1s and 3 L2s and no addresses in the L1s
[04-Dec-2008 13:35:48] **rhett__> yeah. a bit annoying. i was curious if say i have /locations/customers/1/site1 and site2 and i put site1 address in /customer and so on down the line will the pretty status dots be layered and i wont get a visual if say site1 goes down
[04-Dec-2008 13:36:41] **mrayzenoss> rhett__: so the devices don't bubble up?
[04-Dec-2008 13:36:50] **rhett__> exactly
[04-Dec-2008 13:37:12] **rhett__> if set the location to something general like CA or los angeles ca i got arbitrary bubbles
[04-Dec-2008 13:37:22] **rhett__> which i can live with but will be confusing to others
[04-Dec-2008 13:37:44] **rhett__> or is there a way that i dont know about to not show bubble for a certain location w/ an address
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:20] **rhett__> so dont show bubble for /location/customer/1 but show for /location/customer/1/site1 and site2
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:33] **mrayzenoss> hmmm... I'm looking at our demo server and it has /USA/Austin /USA/Annapolis /USA/Chicago and from /Locations it shows all the events below
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:44] **mrayzenoss> for the USA button
[04-Dec-2008 13:38:53] **mrayzenoss> and then when I click on USA it shows the 3 sites
[04-Dec-2008 13:39:06] **rhett__> hm
[04-Dec-2008 13:39:29] **mrayzenoss> USA has the address "United States"
[04-Dec-2008 13:39:52] **mrayzenoss> and each city is of the form "Chicago, Illinois, USA"
[04-Dec-2008 13:40:39] **mrayzenoss> and USA reports 10 subdevices and 3 subaddresses
[04-Dec-2008 13:43:14] **rhett__> k
[04-Dec-2008 13:44:32] **rhett__> oh well i can make this work. i will just have to reorganize once its fixed
[04-Dec-2008 13:44:38] **rhett__> but thanks for the help!
[04-Dec-2008 13:44:41] **mrayzenoss> np
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:15] **rhett__> it dosnt help most of the stuff i am looking at is within a 15 mile radius so any arbitrary points mucks up the map
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:37] **mrayzenoss> rhett__: perhaps the zip code?
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:47] **rhett__> hm
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:53] **mrayzenoss> or GPS coordinate?
[04-Dec-2008 13:45:57] **rhett__> yeah
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:05] **rhett__> i shall try
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:15] **mrayzenoss> good luck, I gotta run
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:23] **rhett__> k
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:25] **rhett__> thanks again
[04-Dec-2008 13:46:28] **rhett__> until next time
[04-Dec-2008 14:00:14] **gf69> i put in usa then moved new york/elmira under it and got an error
[04-Dec-2008 14:01:44] **jmp242> hey, can you autoclear info messages with a mapping in the same class say /App/Log that is a clear event?
[04-Dec-2008 14:09:29] **jmp242> anyone who's good with event mappings, and what might make changing an event mapping zProperty from history to status, or severity from info to clear would make it just disappear entirely? I.E. not showing up anywhere.... Or else I can't find it in history or Status views . ..
[04-Dec-2008 14:09:39] **gf69> for base if i put in locations/ it shows nothing
[04-Dec-2008 16:20:39] **gf69> got the colubris units mapped in zenoss as well
[04-Dec-2008 16:21:28] **gf69> now the boss gave me a list of like 50 to add lol
[04-Dec-2008 16:30:10] **gf69> if a device being monitored is on a dynamic ip, can zenoss detect that and set the new ip accordingly?
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:11] **flepper> hi there
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:14] **killing-joke> have the developers left for the day?
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:25] **killing-joke> hi flepper
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:29] **flepper> I have a question
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:34] **killing-joke> shoot
[04-Dec-2008 16:43:49] **flepper> I am monitoring a number of servers and have defined processes that need to be watched
[04-Dec-2008 16:44:10] **flepper> monitoring the server works, all of host mib works, performance graphs are drawn etc.
[04-Dec-2008 16:44:30] **flepper> but when I intentionally kill one of the processes that are being watched, this is not noticed by zenoss
[04-Dec-2008 16:44:43] **flepper> it seems that the frequency of the checks is (way) too low
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:04] **flepper> how is this intended to work?
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:27] **killing-joke> not noticed immediately?
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:32] **killing-joke> or not noticed after hours?
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:33] **flepper> right
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:46] **flepper> haven't waited more than hours
[04-Dec-2008 16:45:57] **flepper> what I need is near instantaneous notification
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:04] **killing-joke> did you write the monitoring script?
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:12] **flepper> er no.
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:19] **killing-joke> no problem
[04-Dec-2008 16:46:36] **flepper> I defined a regular expression to watch over snmp process table
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:09] **killing-joke> so you could harvest the table at 3:00PM, and at 3:00:01 the process could die.
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:18] **flepper> yes
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:29] **flepper> and to be honest I have no clue when it harvests
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:36] **flepper> that mechanism is unclear to me
[04-Dec-2008 16:47:40] **killing-joke> ah
[04-Dec-2008 16:49:15] **killing-joke> i'm looking at my setup
[04-Dec-2008 16:49:25] **flepper> thanks
[04-Dec-2008 16:51:46] **killing-joke> click on the IP or FQDN or the device
[04-Dec-2008 16:52:26] **flepper> ok
[04-Dec-2008 16:52:29] **killing-joke> down arrow, STATUS, hardware, software, etc in a bar across the top
[04-Dec-2008 16:52:42] **killing-joke> click down arrow, choose zProperties(s)
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:03] **killing-joke> whatever the h*|| those are
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:36] **killing-joke> see "zCommandCycleTime"?
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:44] **flepper> yes
[04-Dec-2008 16:53:55] **flepper> it says 60
[04-Dec-2008 16:54:04] **flepper> that looks like once a minute?
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:04] **killing-joke> try waiting more than sixty seconds, plus the connect time for the sockets, plus the python object time, plus the web server time
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:10] **killing-joke> maybe ... 75 seconds?
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:39] **killing-joke> if you have DNS that times out on certain lookups, that can really screw up this process
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:50] **flepper> I'd say that all zproperties that start with zCommand have to do with collection over the 'command' interface
[04-Dec-2008 16:55:56] **flepper> meaning colletion over ssh.
[04-Dec-2008 16:56:01] **flepper> which is not what I do
[04-Dec-2008 16:56:20] **killing-joke> ah. my misunderstanding.
[04-Dec-2008 16:56:48] **flepper> but I was on that same trail... there must be an interval to set somewhere
[04-Dec-2008 17:01:42] **killing-joke> is it possible that you are polling regularly and not checking the elements of the MIB that will generate an alert?
[04-Dec-2008 17:02:21] **killing-joke> that is, getting the process table, but not the right lines out if it?
[04-Dec-2008 17:04:37] **flepper> I am not sure
[04-Dec-2008 17:04:55] **flepper> I am doing some more testing now
[04-Dec-2008 17:08:22] **killing-joke> you can watch either of the interfaces with tcpdump, ethereal, wireshark, or some other sniffer on tcp/161 to see if the requests are coming at regular intervals
[04-Dec-2008 17:09:21] **killing-joke> any of them will expand the packet payload and decode it for you, so you can watch for changes (state transitions, processes coming/going, whatever)
[04-Dec-2008 17:10:11] **flepper> yeah that's a good idea to get some more insight
[04-Dec-2008 17:11:47] **killing-joke> mrayzenoss: did the devs leave?
[04-Dec-2008 17:12:10] **mrayzenoss> yeah, the session was a little earlier
[04-Dec-2008 17:12:12] **mrayzenoss> what's up?
[04-Dec-2008 17:12:38] **killing-joke> nothing important. i wanted to talk about bulk add/delete at the API
[04-Dec-2008 17:13:14] **killing-joke> thanks, though
[04-Dec-2008 17:13:18] **mrayzenoss> there are a couple scripts around, it's been on my backlog forever to write them up better
[04-Dec-2008 17:14:19] **killing-joke> i wrote a pair last night. fugly, but they worked. i now have 294 core devices all glowing green.
[04-Dec-2008 17:14:36] **killing-joke> i wanted to pull all the known IPs from the db
[04-Dec-2008 17:15:41] **mrayzenoss> getManagedIp()
[04-Dec-2008 17:15:47] **killing-joke> thanks!
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:01] **mrayzenoss> from the dev guide, chapter 6.5
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:24] **mrayzenoss> you can change the python script to return both the d.id and d.managedIp
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:33] **killing-joke> i'll check it out
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:35] **mrayzenoss> heh, there it is
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:38] **mrayzenoss> it's already there
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:50] **killing-joke> on disk?
[04-Dec-2008 17:18:53] **killing-joke> in the book\
[04-Dec-2008 17:19:18] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch05s05.html
[04-Dec-2008 17:19:32] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Dec-2008 17:19:45] **mrayzenoss> the example there is using the Zope REST technique, but you can set your dmd to the Devices context
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:20] **killing-joke> the code is JS? or Python?
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:28] **mrayzenoss> Python
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:33] **killing-joke> server-side
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:45] **mrayzenoss> yeah, you can stash a Python script on the URL
[04-Dec-2008 17:21:54] **mrayzenoss> but it's the same calls you'd make against the DMD
[04-Dec-2008 17:23:34] **killing-joke> adminRoles, devices, maintenanceWindows, ...
[04-Dec-2008 17:24:27] **killing-joke> am i supposed to "add" an "action"?
[04-Dec-2008 17:24:41] **mrayzenoss> >>> dmd.Devices.getSubDevices()
[04-Dec-2008 17:25:52] **killing-joke> thanks!
[04-Dec-2008 17:25:56] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/ExportDevicesToFile/
[04-Dec-2008 17:26:10] **adytum-bot> Title: Export devices to file - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Dec-2008 17:27:45] **killing-joke> ah HAH
[04-Dec-2008 17:27:49] **killing-joke> short and sweet
[04-Dec-2008 17:27:57] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I was over complicating it
[04-Dec-2008 17:28:08] **mrayzenoss> search.zenoss.com is pretty useful
[04-Dec-2008 17:30:13] **killing-joke> export ZENHOME=/opt/zenoss; zendmd; (type in some valid Python)
[04-Dec-2008 17:30:14] **killing-joke>
[04-Dec-2008 17:40:00] **killing-joke> that works very nicely, and requires no SQL
[04-Dec-2008 17:40:04] **killing-joke> thanks very much!
[04-Dec-2008 19:37:27] **gf69> if a device being monitored is on a dynamic ip, can zenoss detect that and set the new ip accordingly?
[04-Dec-2008 19:39:33] **gf69> magnachef
[04-Dec-2008 19:40:30] **gf69> if a device being monitored is on a dynamic ip, can zenoss detect that and set the new ip accordingly?
[04-Dec-2008 20:34:15] **gf69> damn devices still dont show up on the map
[04-Dec-2008 20:35:23] **gf69> they were in locations/new york/elmira and locations/iowa/cedar falls and i tried moving them to locations/new york and locations/iowa and it just shows world view
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[05-Dec-2008 00:48:51] **gf69> snmp_send: Failure in sendto
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:03] **gf69> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SnmpClient.py", line 93, in doRun driver.next() File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Driver.py", line 58, in next raise ex SnmpError: snmp_send
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:16] **gf69> it only does it on 1 device
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:27] **gf69> i added a device after this 1 n no eror
[05-Dec-2008 00:49:32] **gf69> error*
[05-Dec-2008 04:14:43] **chantra> hi there
[05-Dec-2008 04:14:56] **chantra> I would like to monitor bandwith using snmp
[05-Dec-2008 04:15:07] **chantra> but so far, I failed, what am i missing?
[05-Dec-2008 04:16:43] **chantra> oops, finally found it , simply click on the interface name
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[05-Dec-2008 14:52:39] **rhett_> hello. i added this graph http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/SmokepingishLatencyGraphs/ to /Devices/Servers/Linux and /Devices/Network/ and now under perf on /Devices/Servers/Linux i have the ping graphs but none of the other normal perf graphs are not there. any one have any ideas why this is?
[05-Dec-2008 14:52:54] **adytum-bot> Title: Smokepingish Latency Graphs - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
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[05-Dec-2008 15:36:21] **MAlexHerron> hey has anyone tried to install this Zapplett?
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[06-Dec-2008 07:32:55] **nemo2> cobbler
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[07-Dec-2008 18:23:43] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?
[07-Dec-2008 18:23:57] **gf69> sam ip
[07-Dec-2008 18:24:00] **gf69> same*
[07-Dec-2008 19:41:46] **gf69> how do i set zenoss to send an email if a device goes down or its ip changes?
[07-Dec-2008 22:27:02] **hednod> can zenoss reference /etc/hosts for dns, or does it REQUIRE dns hostnames?
[07-Dec-2008 22:27:25] **hednod> for example, i am running zenoss in a freebsd jail with an internal ip addres.. i would not normally give such an address a real dns hostname
[07-Dec-2008 22:27:38] **hednod> but zenping ignores network topology if it cannot resolve it's own hostname
[07-Dec-2008 22:33:58] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Dec-2008 22:34:21] **raddy> Can anybody suggest a good method to monitor tomcat process?
[07-Dec-2008 22:45:10] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[07-Dec-2008 22:45:49] **hednod> you can't expect an answer in 5 minutes on IRC, in a free support channel
[07-Dec-2008 22:45:53] **hednod> give it 24 hours
[07-Dec-2008 22:47:30] **raddy> hednod: 24hrs ? ha ha ha !
[07-Dec-2008 22:48:51] **hednod> raddy: thats right.
[07-Dec-2008 22:49:03] **hednod> raddy: you must be new
[07-Dec-2008 23:10:04] **monrad> or try the forums
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[08-Dec-2008 05:19:43] **jcookeman> hello there
[08-Dec-2008 05:19:56] **jcookeman> A Zenoss guru available?
[08-Dec-2008 05:30:42] **huggie> I'd suggest you just ask and see if anyone can help/is alive etc.
[08-Dec-2008 05:41:39] **jcookeman> Well, here goes. I've done a bit of reading in the Zenoss documentation and site. One of the biggest concerns we have (like most others) is alert consolidation or collapsing alerts based on tiers. From what I gather, Zenoss does provide the ability to handle this.
[08-Dec-2008 05:42:49] **jcookeman> However, we have many sites, and I was wondering how clever this logic is. Would I have to create alerting rules for every site, or is their flexibility to actually use dynamic data or custom fields assigned to devices to configure this behavior.
[08-Dec-2008 05:43:51] **jcookeman> One of the limitations we have with the current system is that we can configure different device tiers, but if you have 1000s of devices and 100s of locations, this becomes quite laborious and unmaintainable.
[08-Dec-2008 05:44:05] **huggie> I'm pretty much a ZenOSS novice but the only bits I saw about suppressing alerts based on dependencies was if zenping correctly mapped out the network for you.
[08-Dec-2008 05:45:29] **jcookeman> Well, from the site "Level 3 Topology awareness to correlate alarms across connected systems (helping avoid "alarm fatigue")"
[08-Dec-2008 05:51:34] **jcookeman> Another question I have is syslog integration
[08-Dec-2008 05:51:53] **jcookeman> is syslog transparent when it comes to alerting and reporting?
[08-Dec-2008 05:52:00] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
[08-Dec-2008 05:52:09] **jcookeman> as in is it just treated as another data source
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:15] **perr0> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0.el5.i386.rpm is whack
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:49] **perr0> [root@zenoss zenoss]# rpm -ivh zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0.el5.i386.rpm
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:49] **perr0> error: Failed dependencies:
[08-Dec-2008 10:26:49] **perr0> zenoss >= 2.3.0 is needed by zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0-160.i386
[08-Dec-2008 10:27:34] **perr0> I installed the zenoss-2.3.0 installer the pages says zenoss-core-zenpacks has no dependancies
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:04] **perr0> this is whack
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:26] **perr0> and then I get a bunch of other messages
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> [root@zenoss zenoss]# rpm -ivh zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.3.0.el5.i386.rpm
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> 1:zenoss-core-zenpacks ########################################### [100%]
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> Installing /opt/zenoss/packs/ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg...
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:27] **perr0> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenpack: line 19: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:29] **perr0> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenpack: line 20: /usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/zenpack.py: No such file or directory
[08-Dec-2008 10:28:33] **perr0> aight, I am out
[08-Dec-2008 10:33:39] **NoxIn-> perr0: you installed zenoss-2.3.0 using a .rpm or using the zenoss installer ?
[08-Dec-2008 10:35:30] **perr0> NoxIn-: this is my bad supposedly
[08-Dec-2008 10:35:32] **perr0> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8252
[08-Dec-2008 10:35:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Install Core Zenpacks via rpm error? (at forums.zenoss.com)
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[08-Dec-2008 11:18:24] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
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[08-Dec-2008 21:05:12] **krphop> oh man, zapplet?
[08-Dec-2008 21:05:13] **krphop> looks pimp
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[09-Dec-2008 02:48:07] **Gecko> Hey, I'm trying to add a device using the XMLRPC call documented in the developer's guide, however the device is not added... Is there anyting I can do to find out why?
[09-Dec-2008 02:58:53] **Gecko> Here's the error message from the log: http://www.pastie.org/334720
[09-Dec-2008 02:59:02] **adytum-bot> Title: #334720 - Pastie (at www.pastie.org)
[09-Dec-2008 05:51:49] **zabkar> hi
[09-Dec-2008 07:15:46] **Gecko> anyone awake?
[09-Dec-2008 09:27:02] **Quadro> hm
[09-Dec-2008 09:27:13] **Quadro> is there any access log around?
[09-Dec-2008 09:32:31] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
[09-Dec-2008 09:33:07] **gf69> perhaps a way for zenoss to map the network and show status of the devices it detects on the network?
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[09-Dec-2008 10:09:08] **jcookeman> Hi folks. I've been using Zenoss for two days now. So far so good. Now I have a question regarding alert tiering and de-duplication.
[09-Dec-2008 10:09:40] **jcookeman> What's the straight forward way to deduplicate alerts if say a site goes down?
[09-Dec-2008 10:10:20] **jcookeman> s/alerts/events
[09-Dec-2008 10:27:46] **jcookeman> Am I correct at looking upon zProperties?
[09-Dec-2008 10:55:08] **white_n_az> is this a place where I can ask a question?
[09-Dec-2008 10:57:53] **krphop> dont ask to ask, just ask
[09-Dec-2008 10:57:54] **krphop> :-)
[09-Dec-2008 10:59:13] **white_n_az> OK - following instructions here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/zenoss-plugins/ and trying to install zenplugin (python) on Macintosh (10.4.11)
[09-Dec-2008 10:59:28] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Plugins - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Dec-2008 10:59:49] **white_n_az> and can 'python setup.py build/install' but when I run the first command, I get an error
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:27] **white_n_az> I'll just paste the 5 lines...
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:33] **white_n_az> # /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/zenplugin.py --list-plugins
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:35] **white_n_az> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:36] **white_n_az> File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/zenplugin.py", line 49, in ?
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:38] **white_n_az> from zenoss.plugins.common import ApplicationError
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:39] **white_n_az> File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/zenoss/__init__.py", line 14, in ?
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:41] **white_n_az> __import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:42] **white_n_az> ImportError: No module named pkg_resources
[09-Dec-2008 11:00:54] **white_n_az> and I understand like nothing of python
[09-Dec-2008 11:01:22] **white_n_az> can anyone toss me a bone?
[09-Dec-2008 11:07:42] **jcookeman> white_n_az: Install Python setup-tools
[09-Dec-2008 11:10:14] **jcookeman> what platform are you running on?
[09-Dec-2008 11:11:22] **white_n_az> just got the cluestick on setup-tools and it sort of runs - platform ? meaning the zenoss collector? Linux
[09-Dec-2008 11:11:52] **jcookeman> Well if you said anything other than Linux you should be booted
[09-Dec-2008 11:11:56] **jcookeman> I meant which version
[09-Dec-2008 11:12:01] **white_n_az> 2.3.0
[09-Dec-2008 11:12:50] **white_n_az> now that I got it to run on the Macintosh, I'm a bit fuzzy on how to set up Zenoss to collect... is that in zProperties?
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:22] **jcookeman> If you did a default install of zenoss
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:26] **jcookeman> it will install the collector
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:29] **white_n_az> or do I take this 'egg' file from the Macintosh and import it as like a ZenPack?
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:32] **jcookeman> and it will automatically collect
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:49] **jcookeman> if you're on Linux you can do "yum install python-setuptools"
[09-Dec-2008 11:13:59] **jcookeman> or "apt-get install python-setuptools"
[09-Dec-2008 11:14:49] **white_n_az> I did a default install using the 'zenoss-stack' but I sort of wish I used the RPM (CentOS 5) instead but it seems to work ok
[09-Dec-2008 11:15:25] **jcookeman> it's fine
[09-Dec-2008 11:16:20] **white_n_az> so I presume now that I have the python-setuptools on both my Macintosh and my Linux server, I can restart the zenoss-stack and it should automatically collect from the Macintosh using SSH (providing I set up ssh properly?)
[09-Dec-2008 11:16:45] **white_n_az> is there any way to use 'authorized_keys2' instead of having to use ssh passwords?
[09-Dec-2008 11:22:54] **white_n_az> I just got some errors when I tried to 'model' it
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:47] **white_n_az> I'll paste a few of the error lines...
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:51] **white_n_az> "/usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/conch/ssh/tran
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:53] **white_n_az> sport.py", line 591, in ssh_NEWKEYS self.connectionSecure() File
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:54] **white_n_az> "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SshClient.py", line 149, in
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:56] **white_n_az> connectionSecure sshauth = SshUserAuth(self.factory.username, sshconn,
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:57] **white_n_az> self.factory) File
[09-Dec-2008 11:26:59] **white_n_az> "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SshClient.py", line 165, in
[09-Dec-2008 11:27:00] **white_n_az> __init__ user = os.getlogin() exceptions.OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid
[09-Dec-2008 11:27:02] **white_n_az> argument
[09-Dec-2008 11:34:12] **white_n_az> I'm using root password...perhaps that's the problem but I don't see in zProperties where the 'ssh' user is defined so I am guessing that it uses 'root' user
[09-Dec-2008 11:40:16] **gf69> magnachef...how are you today
[09-Dec-2008 12:08:43] **white_n_az> Question about upgrades (a different network) - Went from Zenoss-2.1 to 2.2 but never started 2.2 and then upgrade to 2.3 but the database missed the interim upgrade because I didn't realize that it had to be started up to upgrade the database- is there a way to fix it?
[09-Dec-2008 12:32:09] **magnachef> hey gf69 - not bad
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:05] **gf69> havin a couple minor issues with zenoss
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:18] **gf69> not so much issues as much as how to do...
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:38] **gf69> i have a colubris device im monitoring via snmp...there are 2 devices i want to also monitor under it via http ports 9001 and 9002....how would i go about that?....same ip
[09-Dec-2008 13:04:38] **gf69> perhaps a way for zenoss to map the network and show status of the devices it detects on the network?
[09-Dec-2008 14:29:15] **jmp242> anyone ever have an event mapping cause events to disappear? They're not mapped to any event class for the device they are related to.
[09-Dec-2008 14:38:23] **white_n_az> $ zenplugin.py --list-plugins
[09-Dec-2008 14:38:24] **white_n_az> /usr/bin/python: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0: undefined symbol: rl_line_buffer
[09-Dec-2008 14:38:32] **white_n_az> anyone know how to solve?
[09-Dec-2008 14:40:11] **white_n_az> as root, command runs fine but not when I 'su - zenoss'
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[10-Dec-2008 04:18:16] **jcookeman> Hey folks. I'm trying to figure out the right path with "consolidating" or "deduplicating" or "correlating" events. What I'm trying to achieve is this: say a site goes down. How do I avoid generating significant events / alerts from 10 servers, 2 printers, 2 switches and 2 routers when a site becomes unavailable -- and only receive one alert that the site has gone down. It looks like this easily achievable, but I cant see how to approach it or what the
[10-Dec-2008 04:18:16] **jcookeman> recommended way is.
[10-Dec-2008 07:29:38] **jmp242> Can you clear an INFO event?
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[10-Dec-2008 09:50:13] **magnachef> jcookeman: it should dedeuplicate events by default
[10-Dec-2008 10:52:19] **Nate187> Is there any way to reference the interface properties (ifindex, macaddress, etc) in a data source command template in order to pass them as arguements to a script?
[10-Dec-2008 11:28:47] **magnachef> read this section: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/apcs01.html
[10-Dec-2008 11:29:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Dec-2008 11:55:47] **white_n_az> Collecting Macintosh (desktop systems) information...does anyone have any pointers? Windows collection is so much better...SNMP gives me very little, SSH gave me the RAM but nothing gets a software list like Windows collection (or the WMI Events which is nice) - would love to improve on Macintosh data collection if anyone has suggestions
[10-Dec-2008 11:57:30] **white_n_az> and I should point out that neither SNMP nor SSH is giving me space used on the Macintosh hard drives and I am getting not only '/' but also /.vol and /dev listings which are useless
[10-Dec-2008 12:00:56] **magnachef> you may need to make a collector plugin for that
[10-Dec-2008 12:01:03] **magnachef> ...or maybe someone else already has
[10-Dec-2008 12:02:24] **nemo2> white_n_az, pastebin your snmpd.conf
[10-Dec-2008 12:02:34] **nemo2> i get all stuff on solaris, linux
[10-Dec-2008 12:02:50] **nemo2> dont see why snmpd ( on a bad based system ) would be so different for the mac
[10-Dec-2008 12:04:59] **white_n_az> http://pastebin.com/m2999c83f
[10-Dec-2008 12:05:06] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[10-Dec-2008 12:05:26] **white_n_az> that is the relevant part I am using on the Macintosh systems
[10-Dec-2008 12:05:29] **magnachef> are you running net-snmp or a native Mac snmp (if one exists)
[10-Dec-2008 12:06:10] **white_n_az> it's whatever snmp that came with Macintosh OSX (they're all 10.4.11) - a few Intel systems - mostly PPC
[10-Dec-2008 12:07:58] **magnachef> http://macenterprise.org/content/view/329/77/
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:00] **white_n_az> by the way nemo2...Linux and Windows collection is awesome (except for WinNT 4 - but that's understandable)
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:08] **adytum-bot> Title: Macenterprise.org (at macenterprise.org)
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:25] **magnachef> maybe this will help some
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:35] **nemo2> white_n_az, i was just checking your system view
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:37] **nemo2> looks good.
[10-Dec-2008 12:08:51] **nemo2> you dont see it if you walk them ?
[10-Dec-2008 12:10:28] **white_n_az> see what if I walk them?
[10-Dec-2008 12:10:54] **white_n_az> I see a lot of stuff if I walk the Macs...
[10-Dec-2008 12:12:45] **nemo2> the disks ...
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:04] **white_n_az> I get the total size but not the space used
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:17] **nemo2> right .. i had that once
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:26] **nemo2> zenoss diagnosed it as a perf problem
[10-Dec-2008 12:13:54] **nemo2> zenperfsnmp didnt have enough cycle time, kept over running
[10-Dec-2008 12:14:18] **nemo2> are your event.log and zenperfsnmp logs clean , as in no perf warnings etc
[10-Dec-2008 12:15:08] **white_n_az> dunno...
[10-Dec-2008 12:15:46] **nemo2> what happens if you model the device a few times
[10-Dec-2008 12:16:00] **nemo2> if you get changes applied, keep doing it till no changes
[10-Dec-2008 12:16:36] **white_n_az> OK - I'm going to set my test Macintosh back to snmp (is on SSH) and try to collect a few times
[10-Dec-2008 12:22:40] **white_n_az> just modeled it 3 times (had to put the snmpd collector plugins back in) but it still showed 'unknown' in both the used bytes and free bytes for the hard drives ('/' and /.vol and both /dev drives)
[10-Dec-2008 12:23:03] **white_n_az> though it appears that when I 'walked' it, that there was a number...
[10-Dec-2008 12:23:47] **white_n_az> my manual walk shows HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageDescr.4 = STRING: /
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:03] **white_n_az> which I gather is the main drive - the root mount
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:18] **nemo2> what do you have in your fstab
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:22] **white_n_az> thus - this...HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.4 = INTEGER: 20102667
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:40] **nemo2> thats it , and you got other partitions in your fstab ?
[10-Dec-2008 12:24:56] **white_n_az> should mean the size and this...HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed.4 = INTEGER: 7366284 <- should be the amount used
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:17] **white_n_az> this is a Macintosh - I haven't a clue where a relevant fstab is located...
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:17] **nemo2> sounds good.
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:22] **white_n_az> # cat /etc/fstab.hd
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:23] **white_n_az> IGNORE THIS FILE.
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:25] **white_n_az> This file does nothing, contains no useful data, and might go away in
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:26] **white_n_az> future releases. Do not depend on this file or its contents.
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:26] **nemo2> /etc/fstab i bet
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:40] **nemo2> as you can tell, i dont have a mac
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:41] **nemo2>
[10-Dec-2008 12:26:42] **white_n_az> see above when I did a cat /etc/fstab
[10-Dec-2008 12:27:24] **white_n_az> anyway, it appears that the disk space is being returned in an snmpwalk v1 but zenoss isn't picking it up
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:08] **nemo2> well as i said, until you dont see changes applied, collection isnt complete
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:11] **white_n_az> and that seems to happen with all of the Macs
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:20] **nemo2> i often see this on new machines
[10-Dec-2008 12:28:28] **nemo2> get errors 110% full etc
[10-Dec-2008 12:31:45] **nemo2> i think its prob best to hook up with someone who knows more about macs
[10-Dec-2008 12:32:56] **white_n_az> when I tell it to 'model' - it still reports ' zenmodeler found protocol ssh' - I don't seem to get a zTransport option in zProperties like the documentation suggests that I should see...do I just take out the password so SSH fails so it reverts to snmp collection?
[10-Dec-2008 12:33:19] **nemo2> yeh i think so
[10-Dec-2008 12:33:31] **nemo2> sometimes zenoss db is just borked
[10-Dec-2008 12:33:52] **nemo2> needs a restart , remove pickle/ zec files
[10-Dec-2008 12:34:08] **nemo2> well i am still running 2.2.3
[10-Dec-2008 12:34:28] **nemo2> maybe its improved much, but i need stability
[10-Dec-2008 12:36:15] **white_n_az> I suppose I can restart zenoss but this problem has been continuing for many restarts of server/zenoss and the problem remains. I might need someone with more experience on Macs because I am using all of the snmp drive plugins because I don't know which works
[10-Dec-2008 12:36:34] **nemo2> well there are 2 different issues
[10-Dec-2008 12:36:40] **white_n_az> by the way...one thing I noticed right away about 2.3 - it was way faster than 2.1
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:03] **nemo2> i threw hardware at performance, that isnt my issue
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:13] **white_n_az> it does appear that it will try all types of collections (SSH and SNMP) if the collector plugins are enabled
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:37] **nemo2> i dont need false alarms and whatever, just makes my ppl very unhappy and they ignore zenoss
[10-Dec-2008 12:37:58] **white_n_az> agreed on the false alarms
[10-Dec-2008 12:38:30] **white_n_az> thanks nemo
[10-Dec-2008 12:39:07] **nemo2> no probs, good luck with it all, let me know how you get on
[10-Dec-2008 13:43:25] **Nate187> this zope stuff is confusing me
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:10] **Nate187> I'm trying to figure out how to reference a property on an interface
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:22] **Nate187> for a command template
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:41] **Nate187> i would imagine something like ${here/macaddress}
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:49] **magnachef> did you read through that link I sent
[10-Dec-2008 13:44:53] **Nate187> but nothing i've tried works
[10-Dec-2008 13:45:04] **Nate187> yes, i'm not seeing what i'm doing wrong
[10-Dec-2008 13:45:09] **nemo2> right there is a valid list of tales expressions at the end of the admin guide
[10-Dec-2008 13:45:17] **nemo2> is what you want in there ?
[10-Dec-2008 13:46:45] **Nate187> all of those are the properties of the device, I want to get a property from an interface on the device
[10-Dec-2008 13:47:34] **Nate187> i went to the device and added /manage to the url, selected os, then the interface and under the properties tab everything is there
[10-Dec-2008 13:47:51] **Nate187> i just don't know how to reference those in a tales expression
[10-Dec-2008 13:59:30] **nemo2> yeh i dont know either
[10-Dec-2008 13:59:41] **nemo2> sry
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[11-Dec-2008 01:23:43] **arfal> hi
[11-Dec-2008 06:11:34] **huggie> Hmm, can I report on Location? (especially blank location)
[11-Dec-2008 06:11:50] **huggie> here.getLocationName == "" saves ok but doesn't do what I want.
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[11-Dec-2008 09:47:03] **perr0> anyone know where zensyslog gets its parameters from?
[11-Dec-2008 09:47:22] **perr0> I need to disable dns or host name lookups
[11-Dec-2008 09:50:43] **NoxIn-> on my installation I have a /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zensyslog.conf
[11-Dec-2008 09:50:49] **NoxIn-> but it's empty
[11-Dec-2008 09:52:51] **perr0> right and in the admin manual they don't specify how to use this file
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:18] **perr0> or where you can specify additional commands for it
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:28] **perr0> thanks NoxIn-
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:47] **NoxIn-> right but ...
[11-Dec-2008 09:53:56] **NoxIn-> you can read the zensyslog.py
[11-Dec-2008 09:54:16] **NoxIn-> in /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents (in my install) and look where it parses it's options
[11-Dec-2008 09:54:54] **NoxIn-> but I don't see an option to remove the reverse lookup
[11-Dec-2008 09:56:04] **perr0> let me look
[11-Dec-2008 09:56:08] **NoxIn-> maybee --parsehost : "try to parse the hostname part of a syslog HEADER" but it seems to be allready off by default
[11-Dec-2008 09:59:25] **NoxIn-> "zensyslog help" as user zenoss to have the options
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[11-Dec-2008 10:24:50] **perr0> k thanks
[11-Dec-2008 11:43:13] **huggie> Oh a colleague found the answer for my report. here.getLocationName() == ''
[11-Dec-2008 13:51:21] **purevol> so whats up, anyone around here?
[11-Dec-2008 13:51:41] **magnachef> I'm around here somewhere
[11-Dec-2008 13:53:09] **purevol> i feel the same way
[11-Dec-2008 13:54:39] **purevol> maybe someone can point me to a location where i can read the answer, i have the admin guide, but im having a bit of a problem
[11-Dec-2008 13:54:53] **purevol> i loaded zenoss 2.3 on a VMWARE, Cent OS install
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:03] **purevol> got my devices discovered
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:12] **purevol> loaded up the mibs for some of my devices
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:31] **purevol> and then tooled with my devices, so i could send traps to zenoss
[11-Dec-2008 13:55:39] **purevol> nothing was showing up in events
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:07] **purevol> so i ran a packet capture, on port 162, and shonuff, the traps are being sent from the device to zenoss
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:20] **purevol> so i go and check out zentrap.log, everything there is apparently fine
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:30] **purevol> but i still dont have the traps
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:40] **purevol> no /Unknown, or anything
[11-Dec-2008 13:56:48] **magnachef> hmmm
[11-Dec-2008 13:57:10] **magnachef> is zentrap (or whatever the zenoss trap daemon) running?
[11-Dec-2008 13:58:18] **purevol> appears to be
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:07] **purevol> thats why im confused where to look next
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:13] **nemo2> mysql problem?
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:19] **nemo2> events go into mysql
[11-Dec-2008 14:00:53] **purevol> i would assume so, i did the experimental trap it shows in the admin guide, and it was populated into the Event Viewer
[11-Dec-2008 14:02:48] **purevol> the traps are being received by the machine, but i dont think they are doing anything
[11-Dec-2008 14:03:03] **purevol> or anything is being done with them rather
[11-Dec-2008 14:03:19] **purevol> the mibs are all installed
[11-Dec-2008 14:03:31] **purevol> as per the process
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:28] **magnachef> you should see traps even if the mibs aren't loaded
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:34] **magnachef> they'll just be unknown
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:40] **purevol> i figured as much
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:52] **magnachef> maybe community string?
[11-Dec-2008 14:04:55] **purevol> maybe i should remove the mibs
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:02] **magnachef> probably not the issue
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:03] **purevol> community string is default
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:27] **purevol> maybe i should look in mysql
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:39] **purevol> i have the packets captured coming in to port 162
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:49] **purevol> but thats all i get
[11-Dec-2008 14:05:54] **nemo2> is mysql up ?
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:07] **purevol> yes mysql is up
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:24] **nemo2> you see zero events ?
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:44] **purevol> no, i dont see zero events
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:51] **purevol> i see some events
[11-Dec-2008 14:06:59] **purevol> i dont see any snmp traps being sent from my devices
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:05] **nemo2> ok unlikely to be mysql then
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:24] **purevol> yeah, plus i was wable to do the send yourself a trap test
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:25] **nemo2> ok stop zentrapd ( does it really stop ? ) , if not kill
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:29] **nemo2> and start again
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:37] **nemo2> with run -v10
[11-Dec-2008 14:07:54] **nemo2> ie. not as a daemon, just running in the foreground
[11-Dec-2008 14:08:12] **nemo2> then look at its logs ( zentrapd)
[11-Dec-2008 14:08:24] **purevol> yeah i looked at that log, and it was fine
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:05] **purevol> how do i stop zentrapd from cli
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:10] **nemo2> are you filtering out at severity / ack/cleared
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:20] **magnachef> zentrapd stop (as zenoss user)
[11-Dec-2008 14:09:33] **purevol> werd
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:03] **PerlStalker> I had a weird UI issue come up. http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8354
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:07] **PerlStalker> Any ideas?
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:10] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2.4 UI problems (at forums.zenoss.com)
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:18] **purevol> i am doing no filtering
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:35] **purevol> and zntrapd stop doesnt work
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:40] **purevol> zentrapd
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:42] **purevol> that is
[11-Dec-2008 14:10:52] **nemo2> ok, at least you know it now
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:12] **purevol> its just zentrap
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:14] **purevol> stop
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:16] **purevol> not sentrapd
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:19] **purevol> err
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:22] **purevol> zentrapd
[11-Dec-2008 14:11:24] **nemo2> ok i get it
[11-Dec-2008 14:12:16] **purevol> ok, so i got it running in the foreground, so i should try to send the traps to it and see if it does anything?
[11-Dec-2008 14:12:24] **nemo2> yah
[11-Dec-2008 14:13:07] **purevol> http://pastebin.com/m2f71902a
[11-Dec-2008 14:13:14] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Dec-2008 14:13:36] **purevol> is it supposed to stop like that?
[11-Dec-2008 14:18:02] **purevol> i did that, and nothing
[11-Dec-2008 14:18:39] **purevol> no new events, even that stupid trap thing, says nothing, nothing is in the logs, etc
[11-Dec-2008 14:19:20] **purevol> ive been working on this since yesterday afternoon, and since i got up this morning
[11-Dec-2008 14:19:41] **purevol> maybe i should take a nap
[11-Dec-2008 14:36:56] **nemo2> yeah maybe
[11-Dec-2008 14:50:31] **purevol> so, did you see that paste?
[11-Dec-2008 14:50:36] **purevol> anythoughts
[11-Dec-2008 14:51:17] **nemo2> check any firewalls etc
[11-Dec-2008 14:51:34] **nemo2> zentrap looks to be running
[11-Dec-2008 14:51:55] **purevol> yeah like i said, i did a packet captures on port 162
[11-Dec-2008 14:52:24] **nemo2> what about event.log
[11-Dec-2008 14:54:29] **purevol> what about it?
[11-Dec-2008 14:58:04] **purevol> am i looking for anything in pariticular?
[11-Dec-2008 15:02:00] **purevol> http://pastebin.com/m43565aa4
[11-Dec-2008 15:02:07] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Dec-2008 15:02:07] **purevol> some weird conflict errors, in the db
[11-Dec-2008 15:07:54] **nemo2> i would stop zenoss ( kill if needed )
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:10] **nemo2> remove .zec and .pickle files under /opt/zenoss
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:16] **nemo2> and start zenoss again
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:22] **nemo2> things to do, good luck !
[11-Dec-2008 15:08:30] **purevol> alright thanks
[11-Dec-2008 15:30:06] **purevol> is there a file, i can tail will show me the incoming snmp traps?
[11-Dec-2008 16:19:13] **rigeld2> I've got the squid Zenpack installed, but the data its feeding me isn't right... Squid is reporting a max of 3.75Mb/s, when the box is doing ~80Mb/s right now.
[11-Dec-2008 16:19:39] **rigeld2> And all it does is squid, so all traffic through it is squid traffic.
[11-Dec-2008 16:24:48] **rigeld2> nevermind... While troubleshooting just now I restarted squid and snmp and its reporting more reasonable data, except for the fact tht it now says its running 4.31Gb of traffic in... on a 1Gb nic.
[11-Dec-2008 16:24:56] **rigeld2> I'll futz with it some more
[11-Dec-2008 19:47:24] **cli4me> I am fairly new to Zenoss, and have a question about email alerts
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:10] **cli4me> I find in the admin guide that there are TALES device attributes. I am trying to use one of these attibutes in an email message. Its not working
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:40] **cli4me> I am trying to use snmpLocation... I have tried ${snmpLocation} and %(snmpLocation)s
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:44] **cli4me> neither work
[11-Dec-2008 19:48:49] **cli4me> can any one assist?
[11-Dec-2008 19:52:19] **cli4me> anyone here?
[11-Dec-2008 19:55:25] **purevol> hello
[11-Dec-2008 19:57:26] **cli4me> hey
[11-Dec-2008 19:57:51] **cli4me> I dont suppose you can assist me with a question i have?
[11-Dec-2008 19:58:04] **cli4me> .. .regarding email alerts
[11-Dec-2008 19:59:45] **cli4me> anyone familiar with variables I can put into email alertds?
[11-Dec-2008 19:59:53] **cli4me> *alerts
[11-Dec-2008 20:01:02] **cli4me> I'll take that as a no
[11-Dec-2008 20:34:40] **purevol> i dont know that answer
[11-Dec-2008 21:39:47] **purevol> ;`what up what up
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[12-Dec-2008 03:20:15] **daphex> hi all
[12-Dec-2008 05:18:43] **cli4me> Anyone here this morning?
[12-Dec-2008 05:18:47] **cli4me> ?
[12-Dec-2008 05:20:21] **cli4me> I'll take that as a no
[12-Dec-2008 05:20:34] **cli4me> \quit
[12-Dec-2008 07:00:30] **daphex> i'm have noob question
[12-Dec-2008 08:50:29] **NoxIn-> daphex: don't tell you have a question ... ask your question
[12-Dec-2008 08:53:14] **ke4qqq> well I am having an interesting problem - Zenoss has stopped sending out emails - no change in alerting rules or anything. I have tried restarting sendmail, using the test email function (it works) and nothing seems to phase it. I have alerts going to multiple domains. I also tried changing the smtp server from localhost to a known working smtp server and still no mail.
[12-Dec-2008 08:54:47] **NoxIn-> ke4qqq: is it zenoss which don't send, or the mails are bloqued somewhere ?
[12-Dec-2008 08:55:11] **NoxIn-> fi you do "mailq" do you have emails in the deferred queue ?
[12-Dec-2008 08:55:50] **NoxIn-> do you have mail sending attemps in the log of the mail serveur ?
[12-Dec-2008 08:55:53] **NoxIn-> server
[12-Dec-2008 09:11:58] **ke4qqq> NoxIn-: mailq shows 0 attempts
[12-Dec-2008 09:12:09] **ke4qqq> and no they aren't getting blocked anywhere
[12-Dec-2008 09:12:36] **ke4qqq> tailing /var/log/maillog shows no attempts to send anything
[12-Dec-2008 09:12:48] **ke4qqq> hence my confusion
[12-Dec-2008 10:26:05] **nemo2> ke4qqq, isnt it zenmail something ?
[12-Dec-2008 10:26:11] **nemo2> the daemon ?
[12-Dec-2008 10:32:20] **ke4qqq> if there is a daemon by that name it doesn't show up in 'service zenoss status'
[12-Dec-2008 10:32:49] **ke4qqq> nor does ps seem to know anything about such a deamon
[12-Dec-2008 10:33:30] **ke4qqq> though there is a zenmail binary
[12-Dec-2008 11:38:42] **cmdln> good morning
[12-Dec-2008 11:39:17] **cmdln> I cant seem to find any documentation as to weather zenoss can be run with mod_wsgi does anyone know?
[12-Dec-2008 11:40:35] **mrayzenoss> I haven't heard anything about that
[12-Dec-2008 11:41:04] **cmdln> Is the standard practice to just use apache reverse proxy to connect to the zenoss internal webserver?
[12-Dec-2008 11:41:37] **mrayzenoss> Most people just use Zope for Zenoss and leave Apache out of it
[12-Dec-2008 11:44:05] **mrayzenoss> cmdln: what are you trying to accomplish?
[12-Dec-2008 11:45:20] **cmdln> i guess im just not familiar with zope
[12-Dec-2008 11:45:36] **cmdln> i was just going to run zenoss as i do other python web apps
[12-Dec-2008 11:45:46] **cmdln> with apache
[12-Dec-2008 11:46:36] **mrayzenoss> so Zope is a Python application server, handles all the Zenoss web stuff on port 8080
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:10] **rdb> I need some guidance: I'm trying to setup LDAP authentication on an Appliance installation of Zenoss, but it doesn't appear to have yum which the instructions use: (http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/)
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:20] **rdb> how should I best work around this?
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:25] **adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 12:40:55] **rdb> install yum? install openldap2-devel manually?
[12-Dec-2008 12:45:36] **mrayzenoss> I'm not finding an answer to that, I've found other people asking about it
[12-Dec-2008 12:46:03] **mrayzenoss> let me go bug somebody about it
[12-Dec-2008 12:46:14] **rdb> tried getting an RPM to install of openldap2, but there doesn't seem to be an rpm installer on the appliance either.
[12-Dec-2008 12:46:33] **rdb> mrayzenoss; thanks
[12-Dec-2008 12:51:12] **mrayzenoss> our conary expert seems to be out to lunch
[12-Dec-2008 12:52:01] **mrayzenoss> I'm not super-familiar with configuring it myself
[12-Dec-2008 12:52:14] **mrayzenoss> maybe you could post a new thread on the forums and I'll point him towards it?
[12-Dec-2008 12:52:26] **mrayzenoss> and in the meantime, maybe someone else will answer
[12-Dec-2008 13:01:07] **rdb> mrayzenoss: done, thanks (http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=29119)
[12-Dec-2008 13:01:13] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP Authentication on Appliance (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 13:38:29] **white_n_az> Question - I added SSH collection plugin for some Macintosh systems and it gives me some info lacking on SNMP but when they shut off their systems at night, I get a /Cmd/Fail error for User timeout. I hoped that I could automatically 'Clear' them by setting zProperties for /Cmd/Fail to zEventClearClasses to /Cmd/Ok but that isn't working...any suggestions?
[12-Dec-2008 13:40:25] **mrayzenoss> do the machines always get shut off at the same time? Maybe a maintenance window would work
[12-Dec-2008 13:43:53] **white_n_az> probably could do that - this is pretty much an 8-5 office but still, if the employee didn't show up some day, the failure would endure until it is acknowledged/moved to history
[12-Dec-2008 13:46:26] **white_n_az> I was thinking that like /Status/Ping events are cleared by /Status/Wmi/Conn - /Cmd/Fail would be cleared by /Cmd/Ok
[12-Dec-2008 13:57:51] **mrayzenoss> Maybe a forum post might elicit better responses?
[12-Dec-2008 13:57:55] **hoangelos> I have a cisco device that has multiple interface each interface comes up as a seperate device even after I model it
[12-Dec-2008 13:58:09] **hoangelos> how do I collapse those down show it's one device?
[12-Dec-2008 14:00:34] **white_n_az> forum might help...I've been searching for /Cmd/Fail but little is there
[12-Dec-2008 14:00:57] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: I'm searching for that, I've seen it before but can't find it
[12-Dec-2008 14:01:30] **hoangelos> mrayzenoss: ok. I'm sure there was a way. After poking around I didn't see anything that made it obvious to me at all
[12-Dec-2008 14:05:31] **mrayzenoss> hoangelos: go ahead and post a forum question, I'll try to get somebody to answer
[12-Dec-2008 14:05:57] **hoangelos> ok
[12-Dec-2008 14:08:01] **hoangelos> another question was more high level. two parts. can you monitor things like whether a particular webpage is up in the community version? second parts: is alerting part of the community version.
[12-Dec-2008 14:09:17] **mrayzenoss> yes and yes
[12-Dec-2008 14:09:32] **mrayzenoss> 1) http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[12-Dec-2008 14:09:46] **adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 14:10:02] **mrayzenoss> 2) http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch19.html
[12-Dec-2008 14:10:16] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Dec-2008 14:10:27] **hoangelos> sweet. thanks very much
[12-Dec-2008 14:11:09] **mrayzenoss> alerting is email/paging or you can use event commands to do just about anything else
[12-Dec-2008 14:18:34] **hoangelos> I don't know if this matters, in the issue of the cisco device I mentioned, but each IP is on a diff subnet and my network has each of the subnets listed as seperate networks
[12-Dec-2008 16:23:30] **hoangelos> so if I want to keep track of different virtual hosts as in www.domain.com and another.domain.com is that only in enterprise?
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[13-Dec-2008 02:50:51] **rhett> hello
[13-Dec-2008 02:52:59] **rhett> ive tried to add a graph for watchguard current active connections to /Devices/Network/Router/Firewall w/ a template name of Watchguard. When I add Datasource and test against the device i show no output and I get an error saying the OID is invalid but if I use the same OID w/ an snmpget to the same device I get the proper response. Any ideas?
[13-Dec-2008 13:25:06] **cli4me> is anyone here?
[13-Dec-2008 13:26:57] **cli4me> no one here, eh?
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[14-Dec-2008 07:02:58] **Nissim> hello all
[14-Dec-2008 07:03:38] **Nissim> hello all
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:04] **Nissim> Can anyone assist in configuring Zenoss ?
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:10] **Nissim> I have some questions
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:19] **Nissim> anyone ?
[14-Dec-2008 07:04:54] **Nissim> hello
[14-Dec-2008 07:05:41] **Nissim> anyone ?
[14-Dec-2008 07:34:42] **Nissim> hello
[14-Dec-2008 07:35:10] **Nissim> anyone ?
[14-Dec-2008 09:39:58] **jontebond_> Can Zenoss by default monitor network port on nodes?
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[15-Dec-2008 03:17:41] **janwari> Do we still need snmp agent when using SSH for remote monitoring as shown here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch14s01.html ?
[15-Dec-2008 03:18:00] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Dec-2008 03:51:52] **janwari> anyone there?
[15-Dec-2008 06:20:39] * janwari lurks in a quiet room
[15-Dec-2008 07:22:06] **janwari> seen _chris_
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[15-Dec-2008 10:58:35] **purevol> question
[15-Dec-2008 10:58:43] **purevol> i have all these mibs for this device
[15-Dec-2008 10:58:55] **purevol> and i want to use those mibs to get data from that device
[15-Dec-2008 10:58:59] **purevol> how do i do that in zenoss?
[15-Dec-2008 11:54:12] **mcpasdgarrett> Hi all
[15-Dec-2008 11:56:08] **mcpasdgarrett> I have zenoss setup to monitor a switch and I am little confused about the way the graphs work. When the range is set to Hourly I see a different Max then when the range is set to daily, monthly, weekly or yearly. Shouldn't the max stay constant as long as the the same max is included in the range?
[15-Dec-2008 11:57:07] **rhett_> purevol: copy the mibs onto the server then run zenmib --file pathtofile pathtodependency(if applicable)
[15-Dec-2008 11:58:53] **rhett_> mcpasdgarrett: that is more than likely due to the the graphs averaging the data rather than showing the actual max amount of byes/packets in/out of a port
[15-Dec-2008 12:00:11] **mcpasdgarrett> Does that mean the hourly is probably much more accurate than the weekly and so forth?
[15-Dec-2008 12:01:34] **mcpasdgarrett> And why is it called max if it is averaging?
[15-Dec-2008 12:05:04] **purevol> rhett - ive loaded all the mibs
[15-Dec-2008 12:05:20] **purevol> but how do i use them to get the data from the device?
[15-Dec-2008 12:06:15] **purevol> or does the device just send the oid to me? i want more than traps
[15-Dec-2008 12:07:48] **purevol> for example, i have a MIB, that has a bunch of OIDs and 4 Traps
[15-Dec-2008 12:11:09] **rhett_> purevol: oh, ok. you have to create datasources and graphs around those datasources to get the data using the vendor specific OID's
[15-Dec-2008 12:15:07] **rhett_> mcpasdgarrett: yes daily would be more accurate (if 5 min avg is being displayed). honnestly i am unsure if its displaying the average but that is usually the case.
[15-Dec-2008 12:18:07] **mcpasdgarrett> rhett: I am actually trying to find out the max bandwidth being used, so I want to avoid averages, any suggestion on how to do this?
[15-Dec-2008 12:19:06] **rhett_> hmmm
[15-Dec-2008 12:19:39] **rhett_> unsure honestly other than going through daily and seeing waht the 5minute max is
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:08] **rhett_> now that my head has cleared a bit i may be able to explain why the changes are different.
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:23] **rhett_> when you go to hourly daily weekly or monthly the graph resolutions are different.
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:33] **rhett_> daily being hte most accurate at 5 mins.
[15-Dec-2008 12:20:51] **rhett_> so the averages change since it is using a different time period to get the numbers
[15-Dec-2008 12:21:15] **mcpasdgarrett> ah ok
[15-Dec-2008 12:21:19] **mcpasdgarrett> that makes more sense
[15-Dec-2008 12:21:31] **rhett_> but as far as getting the 5 minute max over say a month? i am unsure how to do that :|
[15-Dec-2008 12:22:13] **mcpasdgarrett> so my best bet would be to use hourly and just scroll through the days because that will be the smallest polling interval.
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:05] **mcpasdgarrett> Not really polling interval but best resolution.
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:31] **mcpasdgarrett> rhett: thanks much that helped a ton.
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:33] **rhett_> exactly
[15-Dec-2008 12:23:35] **rhett_> np
[15-Dec-2008 12:27:59] **mcpasdgarrett> rhett: Have a good one!
[15-Dec-2008 13:02:34] **purevol> so the datasource can be my mib is that what you are saying?
[15-Dec-2008 13:13:52] **rhett_> purevol: more than likely you'll want to create a new template under the appropriate device class. once you are in there you'll want to create teh data sources w/ the proper OID and then the data point within that datasource. next you create a graph and bind the data sources to that graph. once that is all done you'll have to bind that template to the device or device class
[15-Dec-2008 13:14:27] **rhett_> also. once you create teh datasource (as long as dns is working properly) you'll want to use teh test options to test the oid against a device
[15-Dec-2008 13:14:42] **rhett_> well. bbiab gotta drive to the office.
[15-Dec-2008 13:45:23] **rhett> get it figured out purevol?
[15-Dec-2008 13:46:50] **purevol> well kind of
[15-Dec-2008 13:46:57] **purevol> i mean, i get what you are saying
[15-Dec-2008 13:47:23] **purevol> i just dont know what my data points would be
[15-Dec-2008 13:47:54] **purevol> i create a device class, performance template
[15-Dec-2008 13:48:03] **purevol> then i add a data source
[15-Dec-2008 13:48:20] **purevol> which is going to be the object that i want to collect information on
[15-Dec-2008 13:49:31] **purevol> i test it, that works
[15-Dec-2008 13:49:33] **purevol> so then waht
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[15-Dec-2008 14:10:00] **purevol> can i add a bunch of mibs to a specific class?
[15-Dec-2008 14:31:54] **rhett> you can create a template using the OID's from the MIB's and attach that to a class
[15-Dec-2008 14:59:02] **purevol> im not sure, i will try that
[15-Dec-2008 15:00:23] **purevol> so if i havve like 30 mibs i need the oids from them?
[15-Dec-2008 15:02:07] **purevol> or can i simple use the MIB browser to create the template?/
[15-Dec-2008 15:07:24] **purevol> you know what i mean, its like i got these MIBs, i want them all to be used for a specific device
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:12] **rhett> basically all a mib is used is translation to the oid
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:26] **purevol> right
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:32] **rhett> that didnt write out very well
[15-Dec-2008 15:10:35] **rhett> anyway
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:01] **rhett> as far as i am aware you cannot use the mib browser to create a template
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:11] **rhett> i always manually create the templates and graphs and such
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:17] **purevol> isnt the the oids are used to walk a specific device
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:37] **purevol> ok, well i can do that, its just going to be a bit of work
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:47] **purevol> second, how do you collect the data points?
[15-Dec-2008 15:11:53] **purevol> err, what are the data points
[15-Dec-2008 15:12:42] **rhett> well yes they are used to walk a device but thats only to get to the private part of the tree. you need to make the specific graphs and datasources for the vendor specific mib
[15-Dec-2008 15:13:03] **rhett> the datapoints are what stores the historical data (in an rrdtool)
[15-Dec-2008 15:15:27] **purevol> this is going to get complex, as there is an assload of data here
[15-Dec-2008 15:16:45] **rfort> anybody here good with Events?
[15-Dec-2008 15:16:57] **rfort> and changing the level of critical of messages that come in ?
[15-Dec-2008 15:18:45] **purevol> kinda, whats up rfort
[15-Dec-2008 15:18:56] **rfort> it might be a sequence issue - I just changed it and about to test it
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:05] **rfort> we upgraded from 2.1 ent to 2.2 ent
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:19] **rfort> I copied over one of the old Event's that we changed to raise it from "info" to "critical"
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:24] **rfort> switch/serial interface going down
[15-Dec-2008 15:19:37] **rfort> it's not catching it still, but I just changed the sequence, one sec going to test and see if that worked
[15-Dec-2008 15:20:57] **purevol> you can also modify the vent class mapping
[15-Dec-2008 15:22:23] **purevol> take a look at the zproperties in particular
[15-Dec-2008 15:25:28] **purevol> im no expert, just trying to contribute
[15-Dec-2008 15:45:55] **rfort> man I'm an idiot
[15-Dec-2008 15:46:03] **rfort> syslog-ng broke on the system -- that's why it wasn't working
[15-Dec-2008 15:46:51] **rfort> thanks
[15-Dec-2008 15:47:18] **rhett>
[15-Dec-2008 15:47:20] **rfort> yeah we wrote a custom script on it that it was using, which it was working just fine on that; the only issue is that IOS logging wasn't getting from the IOS device, through the collector, to the master server
[15-Dec-2008 15:47:46] **rfort> had to rebuild syslog-ng and problem fixed
[15-Dec-2008 15:48:37] **rfort> serial interfaces come up as critical alarms, fast/gig ports are just warnings
[15-Dec-2008 15:48:44] **rfort> so we had to write it to match words
[15-Dec-2008 15:59:33] **rfort> I'm out for the day. have a good one all
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[15-Dec-2008 17:26:43] **daMaestro> anyone know the permission that needs to be granted for the ZenUser role that will allow "regular" users to have links in their menus to things like the "event console"?
[15-Dec-2008 17:27:03] **daMaestro> i mean.. they have rights to view the damn thing, what needs to be done to make the link show up in the main menu?
[15-Dec-2008 17:27:13] **daMaestro> i can't seem to find anything\
[15-Dec-2008 20:23:24] **densone_> back in the day I read an article that showed how to run a nagios check_http script in zenoss. Anyone have the link to that,
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[16-Dec-2008 01:28:17] **janwari> anyone there ?
[16-Dec-2008 02:24:32] **Gecko> Ouch, zenoss didn't like that I bulk imported 500 devices...
[16-Dec-2008 03:53:47] **picachu> hi. I'm trying to do custom graphing and it doesn't work. The graph is empty. Where can I see what errors are thrown when graph is generated ?
[16-Dec-2008 03:55:09] **picachu> i'm using custom graph points and it's so sad that I can't use automatically data sources defined in device - have to specify them manually, like rrdfile= rrdPath/memAvailReal_memAvailReal.rrd
[16-Dec-2008 03:57:05] **janwari> conary update --resolve --test group-MySqlMonitor --install-label=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core throws ERROR:zen.ZenPackCmd:zenpack stopped: /zenpacks/MySqlMonitor*.zip does not appear to be a valid file or directory. Any ideas on how to fix it ?
[16-Dec-2008 04:31:59] **picachu> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/CreatingCustomCalculatedGraphsBasedOnMultipleDataPoints/ wheeeee
[16-Dec-2008 04:32:16] **adytum-bot> Title: Creating custom calculated graphs based on multiple data points - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Dec-2008 05:00:11] **daans> can someone help me with some isues I have with a hub and two collectors
[16-Dec-2008 05:01:40] **daans> ?
[16-Dec-2008 05:09:56] **sangriag> I am new to zenoss. I am trying to figure out whether zenoss can monitor the transactions of individual workstations in a network? If yes, is there any pointers or tutorial how can it be achieved?
[16-Dec-2008 05:11:39] **Gecko> what do you mean by transactions?
[16-Dec-2008 05:13:34] **sangriag> Gecko: I meant the monitoring of their usage of web and other services on every workstation basis
[16-Dec-2008 05:17:08] **sangriag> Gecko, to make it more clear. I am trying to monitor the usage of internet and other online services from each of the computer in LAN. There is a mix of computers from Windows to Mac, but all transactions passes through a single gateway.
[16-Dec-2008 05:18:02] **sangriag> I already have a running Zenoss.
[16-Dec-2008 05:20:05] **Gecko> I don't think zenoss is what you are looking for
[16-Dec-2008 05:20:48] **Gecko> Zenoss monitors the availability and performance of systems. You would be looking for something in the lines of ntop probably
[16-Dec-2008 05:26:12] **sangriag> Gecko: Thanks, let me check ntop then
[16-Dec-2008 05:39:32] **janwari> conary update --resolve --test group-zenpacks --install-label=zenos throws //tmp9rfkyB.trvscript: line 2: /etc/init.d/zenpacks-install: No such file or directory error. How can i install core zenpacks ?
[16-Dec-2008 05:57:31] **sangriag> Gecko: do you have any idea that ntop could be installed in a different machine to monitor other machines in the network without needing to do anything in the workstations?
[16-Dec-2008 06:02:08] **Gecko> sangriag: ntop monitors trafic as it flows through the machine. You just have to make sure that ntop gets the data it must analyze. You should refer to the documentation, as I am not an expert
[16-Dec-2008 06:21:45] **sangriag> Gecko: Thanks, but I am not sure whether ntop could be installed in a different server than gateway and monitor every workstations in the lan, still checking ;-)
[16-Dec-2008 06:23:37] **janwari> i can see Apache in OS tab but under Pref tab i dont see a chart for Apache. Is this normal ?
[16-Dec-2008 06:32:14] **mf2hd> hmm, can any1 pint me an issues/searchwords about recurring windows process events from process that shouldn't exists anymore in particular server? I can remember that there's multiple posts about it, but can't remember topics to search
[16-Dec-2008 06:32:30] **mf2hd> *point*
[16-Dec-2008 06:33:04] **mf2hd> iirc deleting and readding the device could help, but i would prefer some other way...
[16-Dec-2008 08:29:51] **Quadro> if i want to monitor a non-IP device, with a custom script, what should i look for?
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[16-Dec-2008 08:52:18] **picachu> hey guys. I've installed Apache ZenPack, now how do I monitor apache with it ? I already have a couple of servers with apache running on them and they appear as httpd in OS/ip services.
[16-Dec-2008 08:56:18] **janwari> picachu: this will be helpful http://www.sysadminwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Setup_Apache_Monitoring_with_ApacheMonitor_ZenPack
[16-Dec-2008 08:56:32] **adytum-bot> Title: How to Setup Apache Monitoring with ApacheMonitor ZenPack - SysAdminWiki (at www.sysadminwiki.net)
[16-Dec-2008 08:57:25] **janwari> http://www.how-to-linux.com/2008/12/use-zenoss-to-monitor-apache-on-centos-52/
[16-Dec-2008 08:57:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Use Zenoss to Monitor Apache on Centos 5.2 | How To Linux (at www.how-to-linux.com)
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:30] **picachu> http://www.sysadminwiki.net/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Setup_Apache_Monitoring_with_ApacheMonitor_ZenPack
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:34] **picachu> There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:43] **adytum-bot> Title: How to Setup Apache Monitoring with ApacheMonitor ZenPack - SysAdminWiki (at www.sysadminwiki.net)
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:46] **picachu> http://www.how-to-linux.com/2008/12/use-zenoss-to-monitor-apache-on-centos-52/ - doesn't tell me how to use ZEN
[16-Dec-2008 09:04:59] **adytum-bot> Title: Use Zenoss to Monitor Apache on Centos 5.2 | How To Linux (at www.how-to-linux.com)
[16-Dec-2008 09:06:06] **janwari> picachu: you have to have . at the end of the URL
[16-Dec-2008 09:06:22] **picachu> lolz
[16-Dec-2008 09:06:46] **picachu> bind the Apache Template - this is crucial
[16-Dec-2008 09:07:35] **picachu> what does it monitor, btw ?
[16-Dec-2008 09:08:05] **picachu> oh, i see now
[16-Dec-2008 09:08:18] **picachu> that's pretty cool. Exactly what I needed.
[16-Dec-2008 09:08:49] **picachu> btw, do you know any method of exporting, editing and then importing a graph definition ?
[16-Dec-2008 09:09:15] **picachu> i just exhausted after trying to create a custom graph and adding all those lines, grpints line by line.
[16-Dec-2008 09:09:24] **picachu> *i'm
[16-Dec-2008 09:10:54] **picachu> and btw, when clicking on template, i'm getting:
[16-Dec-2008 09:10:55] **picachu> Type: AttributeError
[16-Dec-2008 09:10:55] **picachu> Value: getBrokenPackName
[16-Dec-2008 09:13:21] **picachu> help! http://pastie.org/private/oyrhi4qdf8peulcrxms5q
[16-Dec-2008 09:13:28] **adytum-bot> Title: Private Paste - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[16-Dec-2008 09:27:12] **janwari> picachu: your way ahead of me man, i just started playing around with Zenoss 2 days ago
[16-Dec-2008 09:28:21] **picachu> i'm running pretty old version - 2.2.4 . the new one is 2.3
[16-Dec-2008 09:29:36] **janwari> i just downloaded the VM appliance from vmware.com,
[16-Dec-2008 09:29:45] **janwari> and tweaking the VM to suit our needs
[16-Dec-2008 09:30:03] **janwari> added apache to work with SSL and added modeling using SSH
[16-Dec-2008 09:32:49] **picachu> that's cool
[16-Dec-2008 09:33:04] **picachu> actually, apachemonitor auto-healed himself
[16-Dec-2008 09:33:12] **picachu> now it doesn't throw those errors
[16-Dec-2008 09:40:59] **picachu> hmm. unlocked httpd from updating & deletion, remodeled the server, now it started to throw those errors again.
[16-Dec-2008 09:41:26] **picachu> let's restart the bithie
[16-Dec-2008 09:58:55] **picachu> well, restart healed it.
[16-Dec-2008 11:57:57] **ke4qqq> /window 3
[16-Dec-2008 12:03:16] **densone> is there a tutorial on how to call a nagios script with zenoss
[16-Dec-2008 12:15:20] **rhett___> i am unsure
[16-Dec-2008 12:55:48] **magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
[16-Dec-2008 12:56:02] **adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Dec-2008 12:58:17] **krphop> can anyone give me links to places that explain how to use snmpwalk or snmptable in a template?
[16-Dec-2008 13:13:13] **rhett___> what are you trying to do exactly krphop
[16-Dec-2008 13:13:44] **krphop> basically, i have a bunch of info retuned from a custom OID, and dont want to create a datapoint for each value
[16-Dec-2008 13:13:45] **MAlexHerron> anyone hear of a fix for the trailing zero in trap OIDs issue in 2.3?
[16-Dec-2008 13:14:10] **krphop> for example, i want to read in all datapoints from a single datasource OID
[16-Dec-2008 13:14:44] **krphop> but i'm not really sure how multiple datapoints work inside a datasource
[16-Dec-2008 13:19:19] **rhett___> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/CreatingCustomCalculatedGraphsBasedOnMultipleDataPoints/ maybe this can be of some help?
[16-Dec-2008 13:19:33] **adytum-bot> Title: Creating custom calculated graphs based on multiple data points - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
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[16-Dec-2008 13:59:32] **densone> magnachef, I found that nagios link online. Does this work with the latest version of zenoss. It did not make much sense.
[16-Dec-2008 14:02:59] **magnachef> it should
[16-Dec-2008 14:57:01] **Gecko> Hey, is there any way I can select all devices that have an acknowledged critical alarm (such as being down) and move them to a different production level?
[16-Dec-2008 14:58:49] **rhett___> go to the device list
[16-Dec-2008 14:59:02] **rhett___> i believe u can set production state from there
[16-Dec-2008 15:12:26] **densone> magnachef, the doc asks me to go to perfconf
[16-Dec-2008 15:12:43] **densone> I cannot find anything called perfconf, thats why I thought this doc was out of date
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[16-Dec-2008 15:20:25] **Gecko> rhett___: yes, but can I select only critical devices?
[16-Dec-2008 15:20:36] **Gecko> (I have quite a lot)
[16-Dec-2008 15:21:29] **rhett___> well u can see what the event summary is from the device list
[16-Dec-2008 15:21:41] **rhett___> unfortunately you cannot sort by event summary though
[16-Dec-2008 15:23:31] **Gecko> exactly
[16-Dec-2008 15:23:58] **rhett___> that is the easiest thing i can think of. sorry.
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[16-Dec-2008 19:18:42] **densone> why will zenoss pickup something like MySQL, but not find a mongrel process
[16-Dec-2008 19:19:06] **densone> I feel like its really hard to configure something really simple like that
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[17-Dec-2008 04:34:39] **Gecko> I'll restate my question from yesterday: I have a lot of devices in my database, that all are imported without checking if they were down before importing, so I need to select all my hosts that are down and that particular alarm ack'd, and move them to another production level. I can select them at the device list, but I don't want to hand click 200 devices... Any smarter way?
[17-Dec-2008 07:21:41] **picachu> "send string" with "HEAD / HTTP/1.0\n\n" not working properly. zenoss just sends out \n\n instead of newlines
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[17-Dec-2008 20:42:03] **arfal> hello all
[17-Dec-2008 20:42:23] **arfal> does anybody have this problem on zenoss
[17-Dec-2008 20:42:24] **arfal> (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED). Check your username/password settings and verify network connectivity.
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[18-Dec-2008 05:35:38] **kim0> Hi .. Is it possible to add machines to be monitored from a cli tool ?
[18-Dec-2008 05:42:27] **huggie> zendisc should let you.
[18-Dec-2008 05:43:35] **huggie> zendisc run --now -d --monitor localhost --deviceclass "Some Class here" etc.
[18-Dec-2008 07:47:23] **janwari> any zenoss developer in here ?
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[18-Dec-2008 10:00:26] **jmp242> hey mrayzenoss
[18-Dec-2008 10:00:32] **mrayzenoss> Good morning
[18-Dec-2008 10:00:37] **jmp242> happy upcoming holidays
[18-Dec-2008 10:00:38] **mrayzenoss> Ian should be joining us shortly
[18-Dec-2008 10:02:52] **mrayzenoss> hopefully I can get a couple more Zenossians in the channel, usually there are lurkers but it's pretty empty around here
[18-Dec-2008 10:02:56] **jmp242> great! Any input on the Event Transform "area" that's been kicked around the forum
[18-Dec-2008 10:03:24] **jmp242> I've been finding that the most confusing part of a bunch of my recent local enhancement issuies
[18-Dec-2008 10:04:16] **mrayzenoss> I put up a wiki page
[18-Dec-2008 10:04:28] **mrayzenoss> put it on the events thread, let me find it
[18-Dec-2008 10:04:46] **jmp242> Oh, I probably have that and missed it in my e-mail
[18-Dec-2008 10:05:52] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/EventTransforms
[18-Dec-2008 10:06:07] **adytum-bot> Title: Event Transforms - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:11] **jmp242> I'm currently fighting event mapping as seen here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8288
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:20] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Syslog event that "disappears" (at forums.zenoss.com)
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:52] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I saw Chet's followup. Anything showing in the log?
[18-Dec-2008 10:07:57] **jmp242> I'm wondering if I ought to try and do the component transfrom in /unknown (as if I map one of the events it disappears) or put it in /App/Log for instance (where I want the events) or in the event mapping myself
[18-Dec-2008 10:08:01] **jmp242> err itself
[18-Dec-2008 10:11:44] **mrayzenoss> Unfortunately I don't have good advice on the transforms, I bugged Chet to look at it and he said it looked right. If something shows up in the log maybe we'll find something, but trying a different technique might be your best bet
[18-Dec-2008 10:11:55] **jmp242> hmmm ok.
[18-Dec-2008 10:12:06] **mrayzenoss> sorry
[18-Dec-2008 10:12:21] **jmp242> I'm wondering what my alternative might be - is there docs I've missed on how the syslogs are parsed
[18-Dec-2008 10:12:34] **jmp242> IE, maybe I can change the syslog format the agent sends out
[18-Dec-2008 10:15:43] **mrayzenoss> Anyone get a chance to upgrade to 2.3.2 yet?
[18-Dec-2008 10:16:10] **mrayzenoss> hopefully it nails a couple of the issues that have been bugging you
[18-Dec-2008 10:16:34] **jmp242> Is the plan to not support keeping old windows perf graphs?
[18-Dec-2008 10:17:09] **jmp242> because I don't know if I should hold off for 2.3.3 where presumably that would keep historical data, or push for 2.3.2 now that 2.3.x seems stable(r)
[18-Dec-2008 10:19:15] **mrayzenoss> just a sec, __ian__ is asking around
[18-Dec-2008 10:20:12] **janwari> is there a way in Zenoss to use SSL ?? i tried using Apache to ProxyPass it but in the login_form.pt it points to 127.0.0.1:8080
[18-Dec-2008 10:20:29] **janwari> is there a way to override the action of that form without having to hard code it ?
[18-Dec-2008 10:20:50] **__ian__> what version of Zenoss?
[18-Dec-2008 10:21:08] **janwari> latest i guess. downloaded it from vmware appliance
[18-Dec-2008 10:21:47] **__ian__> where in login_form does it point to 8080?
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:15] **__ian__> the answer is, yes, people have put Apache in front for SSL
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> This is how i have done it Install/Configure Apache to support SSL: (VMware Applicance VM)
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> conary update --resolve httpd --install-label=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> conary update --resolve mod_ssl --install-label=conary.rpath.com@rpl:1
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari> vi /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:22] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:23] **janwari> ServerAdmin janwari@bwc.org
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:25] **janwari> ServerName zenoss.bahai.org
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:27] **janwari> SSLEngine On
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:29] **janwari> SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/localhost.crt
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:31] **janwari> SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/localhost.key
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:33] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:35] **janwari> Options ExecCGI Indexes FollowSymLinks
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:37] **janwari> AllowOverride All
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:39] **janwari> ServerSignature On
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:41] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:43] **janwari> ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8080/
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:43] **adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at 127.0.0.1:8080)
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:45] **janwari> ProxyPassReverse / http://127.0.0.1:8080/
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:47] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:49] **janwari> Change Zenoss login form to give it an absolute action location:
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:51] **janwari> vi /home/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/skins/zenmodel/login_form.pt
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:53] **janwari> change the form tag to
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:55] **janwari>
[18-Dec-2008 10:22:57] **janwari> If the login_form.pt 's action is not changed then it redirects to http://127.0.0.1:8080/zport/acl_user...thHelper/login
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:00] **janwari> because of the ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in the Apache's vhost config.
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:02] **janwari> ohhh
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:04] **janwari> sorry,
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:06] **janwari> http://pastebin.me/494a78acd5d0f
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:08] **janwari> meant to pastebin it
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:14] **adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at 127.0.0.1:8080)
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:15] **janwari> in the action of it, because came_from point to the ProxyPass
[18-Dec-2008 10:23:21] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin.me - Share Code (at pastebin.me)
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:28] **__ian__> I've only seen people use a RewriteRule
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:41] **janwari> __ian__: but shouldnt proxy pass work too ?
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:44] **__ian__> RewriteEngine On
[18-Dec-2008 10:24:44] **__ian__> RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://${SERVER_NAME}:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/${SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P]
[18-Dec-2008 10:25:02] **janwari> ok will try that
[18-Dec-2008 10:25:04] **janwari> thanks
[18-Dec-2008 10:25:06] **__ian__> Zope's VirtualHostBase takes care of it
[18-Dec-2008 10:26:18] **realmelancon> i have a question about the Zenoss upgrade process with collectors.
[18-Dec-2008 10:26:51] **realmelancon> is there a specific sequence (collector1+collector2+ main console ?)
[18-Dec-2008 10:28:03] **realmelancon> anyone ?
[18-Dec-2008 10:28:12] **__ian__> realmelancon: Hang on, checking
[18-Dec-2008 10:28:25] **realmelancon> oups. thanks.!
[18-Dec-2008 10:31:25] **jmp242> Hmm, yes the transform doesn't seem to be picked up by /App/Log, so I'm trying it in the event mappings themselves
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:33] **jmp242> That did it
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:35] **jmp242> solved again
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:37] **jmp242> !!!
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:41] **jmp242> THanks mrayzenoss
[18-Dec-2008 10:34:45] **jmp242> and chet luther!!!
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:15] **mrayzenoss> jmp242: I barely did anything, but feel free to update the post to let everyone know your solution.
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:18] **jmp242> Part of your event mapping guide in the Admin Guide probably ought to give a discussion on scope of event transforms
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:39] **jmp242> that is, where you put an event transform vs where it will actually apply to a given event!
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:48] **jmp242> I'm going to post this to the forum
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:53] **__ian__> I believe there's actually a ticket open
[18-Dec-2008 10:35:57] **__ian__> I couldn't figure it out myself
[18-Dec-2008 10:36:07] **__ian__> and opened a ticket in a blind rage.
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:22] **realmelancon> ian: Thanks a lot. Please post it to the forum once you have the answer.
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:28] **__ian__> realmelancon: what version?
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:38] **realmelancon> from 2.2.4 to 2.3.2
[18-Dec-2008 10:38:59] **__ian__> using DistributedCollector?
[18-Dec-2008 10:39:11] **realmelancon> ian: yes.
[18-Dec-2008 10:39:53] **__ian__> You upgrade the main zenoss server. You then use the Update Hub and Update Collector menu items to update each hub/collector other than the original localhost/localhost ones.
[18-Dec-2008 10:39:59] **__ian__> Hey, look, __jason__'s here
[18-Dec-2008 10:40:18] **realmelancon> ian: well not sure if its called Distributed Collectors (this is core version)
[18-Dec-2008 10:40:37] **realmelancon> ian: its a remote collector.
[18-Dec-2008 10:40:37] **mrayzenoss> ahhh, you did it by hand?
[18-Dec-2008 10:41:53] **mrayzenoss> It looks like the release notes for 2.3.2 suggest doing the main server first, then the hubs and collectors
[18-Dec-2008 10:42:25] **mrayzenoss> I would assume this applies to a manually deployed remote collector
[18-Dec-2008 10:42:34] **realmelancon> mrayzenoss: Yes. by hand. OK. That makes sense.
[18-Dec-2008 10:43:16] **mrayzenoss> realmelancon: Did you follow the remote SNMP instructions? I'm always curious how well those work
[18-Dec-2008 10:44:20] **__jason__> Do you have a zenhub on the remote server or are those collectors talking to the hub back on the main zenoss server?
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[18-Dec-2008 10:44:43] **realmelancon> mrayzenoss: yes. and it works perfectly for me
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[18-Dec-2008 10:45:08] **realmelancon> jason: the collectors all talk directly to the main server.
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:12] **realmelancon> two things are bugging me at the moment. sometimes i cannot see performance graphs for collectors.
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:16] **jasonzenoss> It's a bit tougher in that situation. Updates to the hub on the main servers could in theory break communications with the remote daemons until you've updated them too. So the general answer is that you need to update both at the same time.
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:32] **realmelancon> then i log on the collectors and restart zenrender
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:46] **jmp242> I'm wondering - is it by design that event transforms do not inherit down the class heirarchy (or really anything doesn't seem to inherit down necessarily)
[18-Dec-2008 10:46:47] **jasonzenoss> I don't know specifically with the versions you are upgrading from/to if that's the case or not though.
[18-Dec-2008 10:47:57] **realmelancon> jasonzenoss: thanks. i will backup everything first, update central server, then the collectors.
[18-Dec-2008 10:48:34] **jasonzenoss> jmp242: zProps are the only thing that really inherit down the device class hierarchies I think
[18-Dec-2008 10:49:59] **realmelancon> thanks to everyone. got 2 go.
[18-Dec-2008 10:51:34] **jasonzenoss> Didn't earlier versions of zenoss allow event transformations to be defined on any event class? Maybe I'm thinking of something else, but I think that changed around 2.2 or so.
[18-Dec-2008 10:55:32] **jmp242> I thought so
[18-Dec-2008 10:55:45] **jmp242> I recalled that suddenly I was having issues getting transforms to apply
[18-Dec-2008 10:55:55] **jmp242> I think it either needs to be more obvious in the cocumentation
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:00] **jasonzenoss> I don't know offhand why that change was made.
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:03] **jmp242> or we need to get that working again for a class
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:18] **jmp242> it just feels in the UI like you put the transform in the class
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:24] **jmp242> and it applies to the mappings and events in the class
[18-Dec-2008 10:56:45] **jmp242> If not, I'm not really sure why there is a transforms UI for a class - when would it EVER get applied to an event mapped there?
[18-Dec-2008 10:57:28] **jmp242> Though it didn't seem to stop working with my /perf/filesystem transform(s)
[18-Dec-2008 11:07:54] **jasonzenoss> jmp242: Unfortunately they couple people who can probably best discuss mappings aren't around today. You might want to raise the subject again here after the holidays when we can drag them into the discussion.
[18-Dec-2008 11:09:15] **jmp242> great, I'm ready for a holiday break anyway
[18-Dec-2008 11:12:06] **mrayzenoss> Pretty quiet session, I believe we're going to wrap it up unless there are any last questions.
[18-Dec-2008 11:22:54] **mrayzenoss> Thanks to __ian__, jasonzenoss and jplouis for showing up, later everybody.
[18-Dec-2008 11:32:12] **MAlexHerron> did anyone hear the devlopers mention is 2.3.2 fixes the trailing zeros in snmp trap OID fields?
[18-Dec-2008 11:32:18] **MAlexHerron> is = if*
[18-Dec-2008 11:33:54] **__ian__> Is there a ticket for it?
[18-Dec-2008 11:34:46] **MAlexHerron> not sure, i know it was a common issue among those that use zen as a trap destination
[18-Dec-2008 11:34:56] **MAlexHerron> at least caused me to go back to 2.4
[18-Dec-2008 11:35:03] **MAlexHerron> ill see if i can track down a tick
[18-Dec-2008 11:35:40] **MAlexHerron> pardon 2.2*
[18-Dec-2008 11:38:01] **MAlexHerron> yeah it was ticket 3965
[18-Dec-2008 11:38:13] **MAlexHerron> looks like 2.3.2 fixes it
[18-Dec-2008 11:38:30] **__ian__> Yeah, it sounded familiar.
[18-Dec-2008 23:05:44] **krphop> i'm having some issues with trying to get hard disk stats in zenoss
[18-Dec-2008 23:05:57] **krphop> i've added a HardDisk template
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[19-Dec-2008 05:59:57] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[19-Dec-2008 06:00:36] **raddy> Can someone show more Alert Dependency examples?
[19-Dec-2008 06:06:56] **raddy> Anybody there?
[19-Dec-2008 06:45:48] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[19-Dec-2008 10:24:50] **Cosmin> anyone online?
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:00] **Cosmin> i have a question about routes
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:08] **Cosmin> under the OS tab for devices
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:19] **Cosmin> why arent all my routes in there?
[19-Dec-2008 10:25:33] **Cosmin> i have a few static routes and i do see them in there
[19-Dec-2008 10:26:17] **Cosmin> i noticed that its quering for mib .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.21.1.13 for example
[19-Dec-2008 10:26:26] **Cosmin> if i run it from command line i do get all my routes
[19-Dec-2008 11:28:47] **Cosmin> anyone?
[19-Dec-2008 11:47:28] **rhett___> hello
[19-Dec-2008 11:47:54] **rhett___> are you using v2c or v1 when you snmpwalk/get the device?
[19-Dec-2008 11:59:33] **Cosmin> me?
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:26] **Cosmin> i use snmpwalk
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:37] **Cosmin> i configured version 2c
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:46] **Cosmin> but i get the same results for 1 and v2c
[19-Dec-2008 12:00:50] **rhett___> ok
[19-Dec-2008 12:03:07] **Cosmin> you any clues?
[19-Dec-2008 12:05:36] **rhett___> not particularly. what type of router is it?
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[19-Dec-2008 14:22:28] **Cosmin> rhett its not a router its a linux machine
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[20-Dec-2008 16:17:21] **td-work> hello
[20-Dec-2008 19:27:26] **td-work> always this quiet in here?
[20-Dec-2008 21:27:44] **ke4qqq> td-work: no
[20-Dec-2008 21:30:57] **td-work> cool
[20-Dec-2008 21:31:40] **td-work> just reading up on zenoss....looks damn cool. been using nagios/netsaint for the last 10 years
[20-Dec-2008 21:32:07] **td-work> thinking about giving it a download
[20-Dec-2008 21:33:41] **td-work> so is all the collection done via snmp and wmi?
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:22] **ke4qqq> no but those are the main vectors
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:42] **td-work> ya, all was a bad word
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:45] **ke4qqq> there is also ssh and of course it supports any nagios stuff....so you can do connection based collection
[20-Dec-2008 21:35:52] **td-work> ya
[20-Dec-2008 21:36:50] **td-work> one thing nagios really does well (IMO) is the granular configuration capabilities, esp with notifications. zenoss have that granularity?
[20-Dec-2008 21:37:29] **td-work> i mean, with it's architecture, i can write any plugin i want to handle notifications, checks, etc.
[20-Dec-2008 21:37:43] **ke4qqq> yes
[20-Dec-2008 21:37:55] **td-work> cool
[20-Dec-2008 21:38:41] **ke4qqq> zenoss is awesome IMO - and I have used lots of nms packages....zenoss makes it easy to handle all of the more complex things
[20-Dec-2008 21:38:45] **td-work> last question (for a while): can I still get performance statistics with the community version?
[20-Dec-2008 21:39:36] **ke4qqq> yeah
[20-Dec-2008 21:39:43] **ke4qqq> the only difference between comm and paid
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:05] **ke4qqq> is that they give you some plugins - you can still do all of the stuff yourself - they just save you lots of time
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:10] **ke4qqq> and of course they support you
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:14] **td-work> ya
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:17] **td-work> that's cool
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:25] **ke4qqq> indeed Zenoss really gets F/LOSS
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:47] **td-work> F/LOSS?
[20-Dec-2008 21:40:58] **td-work> too lazy to google, sorry
[20-Dec-2008 21:41:28] **ke4qqq> Free Libre Open Source Software
[20-Dec-2008 21:41:51] **td-work> whoa, 15 yrs in the industry and have never seen/heard of that, lol.
[20-Dec-2008 21:42:09] **td-work> need to get out more apparently
[20-Dec-2008 21:42:28] **td-work> my M$ certified colleagues are keeping me down
[20-Dec-2008 21:42:44] **ke4qqq> just hang out on irc lots it'll keep you balanced
[20-Dec-2008 21:43:23] **td-work> lol
[20-Dec-2008 21:44:18] **td-work> thanks for your input, going to pull away from my wow playing here and go hack at this.
[20-Dec-2008 21:44:24] **ke4qqq> have fun
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[21-Dec-2008 10:49:47] **kim0> Hi, I want to create custom "device classes" (say asteriskSrv ) .. I could do that from the web UI
[21-Dec-2008 10:50:46] **kim0> what I couldn't do however, was to define its data collection methods (i.e. SNMP, CMD ... etc) I need to specify certain collection methods .. where do I do this please /
[21-Dec-2008 13:29:00] **kim0> ping
[21-Dec-2008 14:32:40] **td-work> pong
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[21-Dec-2008 15:01:35] **kim0> Hi .. I have some python agents on machines I want to monitor. I want zenoss to communicate with the agents and expose the results as availability data .. what's the way to do that ?
[21-Dec-2008 15:01:43] **kim0> any hints/pointers are appreciated
[21-Dec-2008 15:04:52] **kim0> td-work: ping again
[21-Dec-2008 16:38:36] **kim0> Is it more lively in European timezone morning ?!
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[22-Dec-2008 02:16:43] **kim0> Hi everyone .. I have my own proprietary servers that I want to monitor. What's the "best" way to talk to all of them using our custom protocol .. and return results to be interpreted as availability data ?
[22-Dec-2008 02:16:56] **kim0> Any pointers are highly appreciated .. thanks
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[22-Dec-2008 13:39:14] **TBKDan> I get this error when I attempt to delete/renamechange class on a device... any ideas how to manually delete the device? http://rafb.net/p/8fQLk029.html
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[22-Dec-2008 13:44:21] **quentusrex23> I have 4 remote corporate offices. Is it possible to have a zenoss server at each location, and have the zenoss server at the 'primary' location pull all of the info from the other locations? So that the main location can monitor all of the other locations as well?
[22-Dec-2008 13:59:49] **TBKDan> Ok, I added the network that was originally giving it the error, and now I'm getting "site error" with even less info about wth happened. I just wanna friggin delete this machine >_<
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[22-Dec-2008 15:24:22] **kim0> any docs for zendmd ?!
[22-Dec-2008 15:25:02] **magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/search?SearchableText=zendmd&vid=5f14df96-aca4-46ab-a698-0c279f6977b2
[22-Dec-2008 15:25:17] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Website - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Dec-2008 15:25:35] **magnachef> there's a bunch of different things there
[22-Dec-2008 15:32:05] **kim0> magnachef:
[22-Dec-2008 15:32:07] **kim0> thanks
[22-Dec-2008 15:32:09] **kim0>
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[22-Dec-2008 19:28:21] **nonsenso> huh. new version of zenoss is out.. anyone running it yet?
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[23-Dec-2008 02:32:07] **raddy> Anybody there?
[23-Dec-2008 02:37:27] **bdenning> I'm here, but I won't be much good for questions. Just setting up my first install on Zenoss at the moment
[23-Dec-2008 02:37:35] **bdenning> *of
[23-Dec-2008 02:43:41] **raddy> bdenning: What processes you are monitoring?
[23-Dec-2008 02:45:37] **bdenning> Trying to install the MySQL plugin to see what db monitoring I can get it doing
[23-Dec-2008 02:46:03] **bdenning> need to get Zenoss monitoring Ubuntu servers with SNMP, but I'm kinda learning SNMP at the same time.
[23-Dec-2008 02:47:55] **bdenning> So far the installation is very easy, but currently reading the doco's on the Zenoss website to figure out how it all works. It's quite a learning curve coming from Nagios
[23-Dec-2008 02:52:08] **raddy> bdenning: I won't accept it as a learning curve at all comparing to Nagios
[23-Dec-2008 02:53:21] **bdenning> Well as I say I'm still in the process of setting things up, so maybe I'll find it's not that different once I find my way around the web interface.
[23-Dec-2008 03:17:13] **janwari> bdenning: are you using Zenoss on you intranet ?
[23-Dec-2008 03:18:13] **bdenning> currently have three virtual machines on my laptop, ie: just running it in a test lab at the moment
[23-Dec-2008 03:19:21] **janwari> if you are using it on the public network and concerned about security issues on snmp i would suggest looking at SSL and SSH setup for Zenoss monitoring
[23-Dec-2008 03:22:50] **bdenning> Can anyone point me in the right direction of information on how to configure the linux/snmp side of things? ie: what a working /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf file should look like?
[23-Dec-2008 03:25:24] **cratlk> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/apa.html
[23-Dec-2008 03:25:40] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Dec-2008 03:26:51] **bdenning> cratlk: ok I feel embarrassed now, I had been trawling the doco's (I promise) but somehow missed this. Thank you.
[23-Dec-2008 03:27:07] **janwari> bdenning: http://webaj.com/zenoss-2-0-core-installation-guide-centos-looks-network-and-server-monitoring-has-gone-web-2-0.htm
[23-Dec-2008 03:27:25] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.0 core installation guide for CentOS. Looks like network and server monitoring has gone web 2.0 | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[23-Dec-2008 03:28:12] **janwari> http://www.how-to-linux.com/2008/12/configure-a-centos-52-server-to-be-monitored-by-zenoss-using-snmp/
[23-Dec-2008 03:28:52] **bdenning> janwari: Hmm.. appears to be a dead link from my end
[23-Dec-2008 03:29:00] **bdenning> janwari: thanks though
[23-Dec-2008 03:29:07] **janwari> bdenning: trying viewing it through google's cache
[23-Dec-2008 04:20:24] **bdenning> janwari: All working now, thanks again for the help :-)
[23-Dec-2008 06:10:36] **janwari> bdenning: good work, glad i could help
[23-Dec-2008 09:22:17] **wassy121> I have a problem with zenoss monitoring large filesystems (1.5TB). TotalBytes is being shown as 229GB in os/filesystems/$mntname/viewFileSystem . Is this a known problem, or is there a good work-around?
[23-Dec-2008 09:22:34] **wassy121> version 2.2.4
[23-Dec-2008 09:24:10] **dorferiferon> Is there an answer to wassy121's question?
[23-Dec-2008 09:25:19] **wassy121> In zendmd running: 'find("$devname").os.filesystems.$mntname.totalBlocks' gives "60018934". However, a raw snmpwalk shows:HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageSize.10 = INTEGER: 240075736
[23-Dec-2008 09:26:00] **wassy121> with hrStorageAllocationUnits set to 4096 Bytes.
[23-Dec-2008 09:26:58] **wassy121> It is showing a usage of 193%, when it is just under half full.
[23-Dec-2008 09:38:45] **wassy121> So, this isn't the same as http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1743171&group_id=12694&atid=112694 , as that net-snmp bug is only when filesystems are greater than 2TB (mine is 1.5TB). The snmpwalk shows correct data.
[23-Dec-2008 09:38:52] **wassy121> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/8464 - maybe this would do it?
[23-Dec-2008 09:39:06] **adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: net-snmp: Detail: 1743171 - 5.4 hrStorageSize overflow on large filesystems (at sourceforge.net)
[23-Dec-2008 09:39:28] **wassy121> Bah, no. That changeset is already present in 2.2.4.
[23-Dec-2008 10:15:48] **klinstifen> Morning...
[23-Dec-2008 10:16:06] **klinstifen> Got a quick question. Anyone available?
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:21] **klinstifen> Has anyone noticed since 2.1 that the graph line colors seem to have a built in transparency setting?
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:27] **klinstifen> I have two lines
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:31] **klinstifen> both set to FF0000
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:37] **klinstifen> yet the bottom line is lighter
[23-Dec-2008 10:17:45] **klinstifen> anyone else experiencing that?
[23-Dec-2008 10:20:18] **klinstifen> in previous versions you could manually specify the alpha transparency...but seems they have limited the color value to six characters
[23-Dec-2008 10:20:34] **klinstifen> so I can't even force a solid color
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:32] **klinstifen> Hey, Matt.
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:37] **klinstifen> Can I bug you for a quick second?
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:39] **mrayzenoss> Good morning
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:47] **mrayzenoss> (depending on where you are)
[23-Dec-2008 10:26:56] **mrayzenoss> sure
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:05] **klinstifen> east coast...so yeah still morning
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:30] **klinstifen> So I noticed that since ~2.1 that the line colors for graphs seem to have a built in transparency
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:44] **klinstifen> meaning if I have two lines and both are set to FF0000 the second one will be a bit lighter
[23-Dec-2008 10:27:50] **klinstifen> like a 50% transparency
[23-Dec-2008 10:28:11] **klinstifen> Is this by design or am I just seeing something quirky on my box?
[23-Dec-2008 10:28:36] **mrayzenoss> I believe there was some change to the alpha channel for RRDTool, I wonder if that's an unintended side-effect
[23-Dec-2008 10:28:53] **mrayzenoss> if you want to open a ticket with a screenshot, I can get it looked aat
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:22] **klinstifen> Do you have a url link for the ticket opening?
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:34] **mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:37] **klinstifen> Thanks
[23-Dec-2008 10:29:43] **mrayzenoss> zenoss/zenoss is the login
[23-Dec-2008 10:30:07] **mrayzenoss> I'll look for the ticket
[23-Dec-2008 10:52:48] **klinstifen> Ok, Matt, I created the ticket
[23-Dec-2008 10:52:51] **klinstifen> Thanks for the help
[23-Dec-2008 10:52:51] **mrayzenoss> thanks
[23-Dec-2008 10:54:53] **mrayzenoss> looks good, you can add yourself to the CC field to follow the ticket progress
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[23-Dec-2008 15:06:49] **klinstifen> anyone handy to answer an rrd question?
[23-Dec-2008 15:16:51] **klinstifen> i am trying to graph data from last week and this week
[23-Dec-2008 15:17:21] **klinstifen> i'd think i could just duplicate this week's def/cdef and then apply a shift, but it doesn't seem to work
[23-Dec-2008 15:17:25] **klinstifen> anyone tried this before?
[23-Dec-2008 21:55:28] **arfal> anybody have this error?
[23-Dec-2008 21:55:29] **arfal> Could not read the Windows event log (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED). Check your username/password settings and verify network connect
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[24-Dec-2008 04:45:50] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[24-Dec-2008 04:46:01] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[24-Dec-2008 07:06:38] **drolen> Bom dia
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[25-Dec-2008 06:08:23] **kim0> Hi everyone .. Is it possible to assign monitoring port 80 for example, over an entire device "class" ???
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[26-Dec-2008 00:07:36] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[26-Dec-2008 00:07:42] **raddy> Anybody out there????
[26-Dec-2008 00:22:33] **raddy> Anybody there?
[26-Dec-2008 02:20:59] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[26-Dec-2008 03:08:26] **cratlk> Yes. go on raddy
[26-Dec-2008 04:16:03] **dalfz> i have an issue where a cisco router may crash due to snmp from my zenoss, where do i pause collecting data for this device?
[26-Dec-2008 05:04:45] **raddy> Anybody there?
[26-Dec-2008 09:05:25] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[26-Dec-2008 09:05:33] **raddy> Anybody there???
[26-Dec-2008 13:11:42] **magnachef> I'm here
[26-Dec-2008 13:12:00] **kim0> that's great
[26-Dec-2008 13:12:51] * kim0 was starting to think this room was 100% dead
[26-Dec-2008 13:13:24] **magnachef> heh, probably is...I was responding to raddy (who may or may not be lurking still)
[26-Dec-2008 13:18:24] **kim0> Is it possible to assign monitoring a port (80 for example), over an entire device "class" ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:18:53] **magnachef> generally it should detect it if you have, for example, apache running
[26-Dec-2008 13:19:10] **magnachef> but if it doesn't, you can do it via the dmd interface
[26-Dec-2008 13:19:54] **magnachef> but this has been a want of mine for some time - being able to model processes and IPServices at the device/system class level
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:06] **kim0> magnachef: So basically I'd need to write a loop to run through all devices add ports to be monitored and processes to be monitored ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:14] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:17] **kim0> phew
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:23] **magnachef> or you can maually do it
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:27] **kim0> I've been searching for a week
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:39] **kim0> but I could not believe such a feature would not exist
[26-Dec-2008 13:20:45] **magnachef> same here
[26-Dec-2008 13:21:03] **magnachef> correct - it doesn't exist through the interface
[26-Dec-2008 13:21:16] **kim0> dmd doesn't count
[26-Dec-2008 13:22:41] **magnachef> I agree. You should be able to say: "Add port 80 monitoring on all devices currently and added in the future under /Devices/Linux/Webservers"
[26-Dec-2008 13:22:53] **kim0> Exactly
[26-Dec-2008 13:22:59] **kim0> added in the future is the keywork
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:03] **kim0> keyword*
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:21] **magnachef> I think I posted something a while back in the dev forums
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:28] **kim0> I seriously hope the devs are gonna add this soon ..
[26-Dec-2008 13:23:44] **kim0> they must have a bug open for this one
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:11] **kim0> magnachef: if you please, I'd like to ask another question. I have some custom apps running on solaris servers. I got solaris' SNMP daemon to expose some custom data over snmp
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:27] **kim0> now .. I want to monitor this data from zenoss .. I'm kinda lost what I'd need to edit
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:38] **kim0> from a high level overview ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:24:47] **magnachef> first I'd check to see if there's a zenpack for it
[26-Dec-2008 13:25:09] **kim0> probably not .. coz it's a totally custom app
[26-Dec-2008 13:25:26] **kim0> my company writes it
[26-Dec-2008 13:25:51] **magnachef> ahh
[26-Dec-2008 13:26:22] **magnachef> well, you'd probably have to create a device class
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:36] **kim0> magnachef: then make a template and bind it to that class ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:41] **magnachef> then you'd have to customize the Templates tab
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:47] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:27:54] **kim0> that should be all ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:28:19] **kim0> would I need a custom data collector
[26-Dec-2008 13:29:18] **magnachef> you would need to define the OIDs
[26-Dec-2008 13:29:40] **kim0> all of this could be done through the webUI right ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:29:45] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:00] **kim0> then when is it needed to write code
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:14] **magnachef> You'll need to edit the performance template with the datasource, thresholds, graph definitions, etc
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:29] **magnachef> well, if the collector is a script you will
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:48] **magnachef> if you're using SNMP, then that's built in, and you just define the OIDs you need to poll
[26-Dec-2008 13:30:55] **kim0> perfect
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:08] **kim0> one tiny little thing now
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:12] **magnachef> that's all under Data Sources unders the performance template
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:27] **kim0> the only way I could find to visually show what I'm collecting .. is via rrd graphs
[26-Dec-2008 13:31:42] **kim0> Can one make a green LED like the ping status zenoss uses for example ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:32:04] **kim0> that's because the data I'm monitoring is mostly boolean yes/no .. so graphs are kinda funny for it ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:32:52] **magnachef> well, you'll add devices to your custom device class, and all the zenoss status stuff will be there by default
[26-Dec-2008 13:33:27] **magnachef> probably wouldn't want to graph that then
[26-Dec-2008 13:33:44] **magnachef> but you would want to set the threshold section though
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:00] **magnachef> and that'll generate a red event if you get the undesired value
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:19] **kim0> so .. if everything is OK .. I see nothing
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:27] **kim0> if something goes wrong .. something will go red ?
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:27] **magnachef> correct
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:35] **kim0> what would go red
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:48] **magnachef> yeah, if you set up the thresholds properly
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:48] **kim0> an event you say
[26-Dec-2008 13:34:59] **kim0> well .. that would work
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:05] **magnachef> yeah, just like if an OSProcess isn't running
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:19] **kim0> but ideally .. would it be possible to define some other visualization other than graphs
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:31] **kim0> like green/red blocks
[26-Dec-2008 13:35:45] **kim0> that color according to thresholds being crossed or not
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:03] **magnachef> that will happen in the device view
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:10] **magnachef> or on the portal
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:22] **magnachef> I mean "Dashboard"
[26-Dec-2008 13:36:46] **magnachef> you can create a dashboard for those devices, that will show if they're red, yellow, green, etc
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:03] **kim0> but that's for the whole device
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:12] **magnachef> yeah
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:16] **kim0> I wouldn't know which sensor exactly went wrong
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:23] **kim0> without reading the alerts
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:33] **kim0> well .. if that's the way it is . then ok
[26-Dec-2008 13:37:57] **magnachef> I don't totally understand your situation, so I'm not sure of the best way for what you want to do
[26-Dec-2008 13:38:53] **kim0> magnachef: well .. in one case .. I am checking a solaris zfs filesystem is "writeable" .. and exposing that over SNMP as (1 = writeable .. 0=not-writeable)
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:16] **kim0> Ideally ... I'd want a green something for OK .. a Red something for not writeable
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:18] **kim0>
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:36] **kim0> graphing that is funny to say the least
[26-Dec-2008 13:39:50] **magnachef> sounds like you should setup your snmp to send traps based on that
[26-Dec-2008 13:40:11] **magnachef> well, graphing could be useful in terms of trending downtime
[26-Dec-2008 13:40:20] **magnachef> but yeah, not totally great thing to graph
[26-Dec-2008 13:41:43] **kim0> magnachef: I wanna say a BIG Thank you
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:02] **magnachef> no problem!
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:07] **kim0> are you a zenoss dev .. or a community member
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:08] **magnachef> ...and good luck
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:13] **magnachef> community member
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:17] **magnachef> just some dude
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:20] **magnachef>
[26-Dec-2008 13:42:29] **kim0> you're great
[26-Dec-2008 14:05:22] **fang0654> Can anyone tell me how to debug the web frontend for zenoss not starting up the server?
[26-Dec-2008 16:46:32] **kim0> magnachef: Hi again .. would you by any chance have a few nice zendmd scripts that add different checks to devices. I plan to use them as a starting point
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[28-Dec-2008 08:16:52] **janwari> is Zenoss-Plugins-2.0.4 the latest plugins ?
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[29-Dec-2008 02:26:33] **bitmonk> hello, i wonder if anyone else has considered trying to port the zenoss install code to zc.buildout, or try to rely on debuntu-installed python dependencies? i am making progress, just wonder if there is anyone i might compare notes with..
[29-Dec-2008 02:26:45] **bitmonk> plan to compose an ML post once i have something worth saying other than 'please help' ;d
[29-Dec-2008 02:26:49] **bitmonk> though i may do that as well heh
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:00] **bzed> bitmonk: there's al (now outdated) effort to package zenoss for Debian
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:23] **bzed> bitmonk: the problem is that we can't introduce zope 2.8 into debian again
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:39] **bzed> and zenoss doesn;t even work with zope2.9
[29-Dec-2008 02:29:45] **bzed> at least not properly
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:01] **bitmonk> sure, i'm trying to use my zope chops to develop a zope-style install for the zope-bits of zenoss, depending on various complex python2.4 deps installed by debuntu
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:11] **bitmonk> zope dep is no problem i can install 2.8.8 in a buildout
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:13] **bitmonk> maybe..
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:24] **bitmonk> actually seem to have issues with cAccessControl but will work through
[29-Dec-2008 02:30:55] * bitmonk is a bit of a plone / zope expert and wants to do some work with a mixed plone / zenoss stack
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:08] **bzed> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-zenoss/ if you want to look
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:13] **bitmonk> i know that zenoss is in dark ages of zope2 right now but i can still probably experiment with plone2 or 2.5
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:16] **adytum-bot> Title: Repository - directory - pkg-zenoss (at svn.debian.org)
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:24] **bzed> but that's pretty much debian specific
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:29] **bzed> will work on ubuntu, too...
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:30] **bitmonk> yah again not so interested in the pkg interested in folks trying to do a source build using modern zope techniques
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:33] **bzed> but... outdated
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:45] **bitmonk> just that the source installer builds all this crud from source that i can install
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:48] **bitmonk> as python deps
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:58] **bitmonk> no worries though i'll do an ML post
[29-Dec-2008 02:31:58] **bzed> the deps are available as packages
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:01] **bzed> almost all of them
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:04] **bitmonk> yes, but the installer doesn't allow
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:05] **bzed> or all of them
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:07] **bitmonk> sure i can fix the pkg
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:13] **bitmonk> anyway, you clearly aren't getting my goal
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:15] **bitmonk> no big man
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:16] **bitmonk> don't worry
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:22] **bzed> hmm
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:25] **bitmonk> it's a zope thang
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:30] **bzed> maybe I don;t understand your goal
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:45] **bzed> getting rid of the zenoss isntaller is a good thing in any case
[29-Dec-2008 02:32:54] **bitmonk> basically zenoss, mostly a zope app, doesn't use very modern means of preparing zope code
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:00] **bitmonk> that's surely inline with not even working on zope 2.9
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:06] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:20] **bitmonk> but that doesn't mean that zope 2.8 code can't use modern deployment technique, as i use for plone 3.1 and 2.5 on zope 2.10 / 2.9 respectively
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:45] **bitmonk> and if i could line that all up, in the next year i mix find a mix of zenoss and plone that work and develop, say, a portal with ecommerce that feeds zenoss config and access..
[29-Dec-2008 02:33:47] **bitmonk> or whatever
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:03] **bzed> sounds like a good idea
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:06] **bitmonk> just trying to find if anyone else is on a similar path
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:09] **bitmonk> yah noone seems to disagree
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:25] **bzed> although I'm not sure if it works
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:33] **bitmonk> well i don't doubt
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:35] **bitmonk> i want to help
[29-Dec-2008 02:34:41] **bitmonk> i just probably need to get active on ML and stuff
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:00] **bzed> as *if I remember right, not sure* zenoss ships with some of the CMF stuff, and you need more recent versions for plone.. which will break zenoss
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:03] **bitmonk> basically a lot of work i do will need modification of core code in minor ways, but like, across ZenPacks or something.. to modernize python / zope style
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:10] **bitmonk> yes yes i know about all those details
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:13] **bitmonk> i'm talking future
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:22] **bitmonk> plone community knows CMF better than zenoss
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:29] **bitmonk> talking about helping zenoss grow into 2006
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:44] **bitmonk> but like trying to avoid a fork yanno, not only doesnt help anyone, but a big pain
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:52] **bitmonk> lots of security and perf fixes in the past 5 years
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:56] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:35:59] **bitmonk> or whatever
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:01] **bitmonk> 2.8 is old
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:06] **bitmonk> my years are all off pretty late ;d
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:10] **bzed> I'm not sure why the zenoss devs are still stuck with such old code
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:12] **bitmonk> but the point clear i think
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:16] **bitmonk> well it's a big pain
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:30] **bitmonk> but my experience in working with the plone chain of progress can help me to help zenoss walk a similar path
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:32] **bitmonk> perhaps more quickly
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:57] **bzed> they told me more than a year ago thay they'd want to upgrade to a recent version of zope, or something similar
[29-Dec-2008 02:36:59] **bitmonk> zenoss is like just shy of plone2.0-land zope code, and in 2.5 there was a lot of advancement, and a lot of mistakes..
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:07] **bitmonk> yah i need to get on list and see who wants to help
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:24] **bitmonk> basically anyone willing to accept patches for this purpose would be good, i can write code that'll work in multiple zope ver
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:35] **bitmonk> it's not fun but it's not rocket surgery
[29-Dec-2008 02:37:57] **bzed> probably contacting their community manager helps
[29-Dec-2008 02:38:16] **bzed> they usually accept patches and suggestions via the bug tracker
[29-Dec-2008 02:38:27] **bzed> if I remember right it has an anonymous login, too
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:02] **bzed> I have an account for it since I dropped a lot of bug reports
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:08] **bitmonk> well i need more than just patch acceptance
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:14] **bitmonk> they make a lot of progress while i try to patch things
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:18] **bitmonk> i need people interested in cooperating
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:28] **bitmonk> i can do the work just need them to work with me on merging zope compat with new dev
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:37] **bitmonk> i'm like totally fogged on what happens between vers
[29-Dec-2008 02:39:44] **bitmonk> trunk is an enigma wrapped in deli paper
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:29] **bzed> I'd suggest to contact them directly
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:37] **bitmonk> well the list is a start
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:42] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:44] **bitmonk> that's what i'll do
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:46] **bitmonk> see if anyone cares
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:50] **bitmonk> then we can private mail
[29-Dec-2008 02:40:55] **bitmonk> maybe someone lives in san francisco!
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:00] **bitmonk> :-D
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:03] **bitmonk> or the bay
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:07] **bzed> good look with it!
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:12] **bitmonk> yah thanks
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:26] **bzed> in case you manage to get it up to zope2.10 or zope3 or anything else uptodate, please let me know
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:29] **bitmonk> basically i got a build to run by disabling one bit of the makefile and installing that deb
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:31] **bzed> I'd love to finish the debian packages
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:35] **bitmonk> but i really installed almost all of it as debs
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:49] **bitmonk> buildout is a zope-style / setuptools-based tool for building a zope environment..
[29-Dec-2008 02:41:52] **bzed> I put a lot of work into it.. and I'm a bit pissed that it's still not completed
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:09] **bitmonk> but i'm not even sure that the pollers and whatnot need buildout, they might want to be eggs, so then you can install them on a node that has nothing else..
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:33] **bitmonk> well keep in touch, maybe i can help, what i am producing would be a better developer environment at very least, then comes deployment..
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:38] **bitmonk> plone debs are probably based on buildout
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:42] **bzed> no
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:47] **bitmonk> contact me using email form at bitmonk.net or vongogo.net
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:53] **bzed> debian uses dzhandle to do the stugg
[29-Dec-2008 02:42:57] **bzed> stuff
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:02] **bitmonk> yah i could surely learn from you
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:03] **bitmonk> no doubt
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:07] **bitmonk> would love to help
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:08] **bzed> which was written by some ubuntu and debian developers
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:10] **bitmonk> did you get my pm with email?
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:22] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:47] **bitmonk> please email me, i'd love to keep in touch
[29-Dec-2008 02:43:57] **bitmonk> i think our paths are intended to cross
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:18] **bitmonk> i am interested in debuntu deployment, but also in zope-style-ness, would like to help you learn about the other side and perhaps come to improve general style..
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:25] * bitmonk probably knows whoever wrote dzhandle
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:35] **bitmonk> i can probably drink that sucker under the table
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:39] **bzed> bitmonk: doko started with it
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:45] **bitmonk> oh i dont know doko
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:49] **bitmonk> but i probably know someone
[29-Dec-2008 02:44:57] **bitmonk> and drunk them under the table at a plone conf! :-P
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:00] **bzed> haha
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:04] **bzed> kobold?
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:07] **bitmonk> wiggy?
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:17] **bzed> hmm... not sure if wiggy had his fingers in it
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:18] **bitmonk> (wichert?)
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:22] **bitmonk> yah i dunno
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:25] **bzed> I think he stopped doing debian stuff before
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:28] **bitmonk> i'm sure he had words with the folks tho
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:35] **bitmonk> he's spent years talking up debian plone pkgs to me
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:42] **bzed> haha
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:44] * bitmonk and wiggy aren't brethren
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:46] **bitmonk> :-P
[29-Dec-2008 02:45:52] **bitmonk> though i think we respect one another at a distance
[29-Dec-2008 02:46:04] **bitmonk> like limi
[29-Dec-2008 02:46:12] * bitmonk shudder at thought of googlimi
[29-Dec-2008 02:46:41] **bzed> dzhandle is nice as it does all the ugly stuff for you.. like setting up a zope or zeo instance.... and install products into them
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:01] **bitmonk> well
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:04] **bzed> but it could be improved for sure
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:05] **bitmonk> buildout does that stuff better
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:14] **bitmonk> based on virtualenv
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:19] **bitmonk> maybe dzhandle handy
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:20] **bitmonk> i dunno
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:26] **bitmonk> not a big fan of letting OS touch my zope
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:35] * bitmonk set up acm.org and siggraph.org on zope
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:49] **bitmonk> RHEL5 knows how to give me a /usr/bin/python2.4 and shut the hell up ;d
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:55] **bitmonk> er RHEL4 as it were with ACM
[29-Dec-2008 02:47:56] **bzed> the problem is that if you distrubute plone or something similar with a distribution
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:09] **bzed> people expect to apt-get install plone and have a working system afterwards
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:15] **bitmonk> oh i agree
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:18] **bitmonk> i dont decry these solutions
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:20] **bitmonk> i just won't use them
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:27] **bitmonk> i think that expert solutions need to live aside
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:30] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:31] **bzed> definitely
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:32] **bitmonk> it's more dangerous than using a distro apache pkg
[29-Dec-2008 02:48:46] **bitmonk> i mean i have charged $35k to install a plone cluster
[29-Dec-2008 02:49:04] **bitmonk> that includes a relative guarantee that as long as they don't break python, os upgrades won't break it, or espescially delete their database.
[29-Dec-2008 02:49:28] **bitmonk> but that's not to say i shouldn't get involved in dzhandle dev (esp if wiggy isn't!) and become responsible for as well as comfortable with its' behaviour.
[29-Dec-2008 02:50:13] **bitmonk> (also a lot of that charge was for this jerkass IT mgr constantly screaming "i dont care what it costs! just do it!" and changing his mind every 6.5 hours)
[29-Dec-2008 02:50:26] **bitmonk> (but i earned every dollar and used the money to move from TX to CA even if povertously ;d)
[29-Dec-2008 02:50:32] **bzed>
[29-Dec-2008 02:51:50] **bzed> dzhandle is not really maintained at the moment I think
[29-Dec-2008 02:52:52] **bitmonk> hm
[29-Dec-2008 02:53:40] **bzed> last year kobold and me spent a lot of time on it more than a year ago
[29-Dec-2008 02:53:56] **bzed> s/last year//
[29-Dec-2008 02:56:20] **bzed> we fixed a lot of bugs and added zeo handling stuff
[29-Dec-2008 03:03:34] * bitmonk would like to help z3-ify
[29-Dec-2008 03:03:51] **bitmonk> honestly zenoss can gain a lot by skipping zope 2.9 and going all the way to 2.11
[29-Dec-2008 03:03:55] **bitmonk> no reason to use an intermediary version
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:05] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:11] **bzed> and it shouldn't make a big difference
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:18] **bitmonk> newer zope learned a lot from plone
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:19] **bzed> as they have to rewrite a lot of stuff for it anyeway
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:22] **bitmonk> and i learned a lot from plone abou tmoving
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:23] **bitmonk> yah
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:32] **bitmonk> i'd love to share what i know and help zenoss rawk
[29-Dec-2008 03:04:51] **bitmonk> i think it can become the foundation for kicking the butt of something like Sun xVM Ops Manager
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:03] **bitmonk> esp given my experience @ Rackspace
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:11] **bzed> hehe
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:39] **bzed> would be good for zenoss
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:43] **bzed> I really like it
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:51] **bitmonk> yah zenoss is a nice platform
[29-Dec-2008 03:05:55] **bzed> but at the current state... I wouldn't use it I have to admit
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:04] **bzed> I don;t want to be stuck with zope2.8
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:18] **bitmonk> well zope 2.8 not so bad but yah upgrading would be a huge painless advantage
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:21] **bitmonk> performance, reliability, etc..
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:25] **bitmonk> still all python 2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:29] **bitmonk> so only the Zope apis should be a concern
[29-Dec-2008 03:06:54] **bzed> another thing... most distros ship 2.5 as default now
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:17] **bitmonk> just seems to me so much info is input for systems to monitor in zenoss, i could just generate systems config, provision VMs and physical systems, VM servers, storage, network assets, etc..
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:22] **bitmonk> yah but all have 2.4 avail
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:25] **bitmonk> all zope uses 2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:30] **bitmonk> so, that's zope-life
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:36] **bitmonk> 2.11 may actually work with 2.5
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:44] **bitmonk> but python 2.4 should work, i think
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:46] **bitmonk> maybe not
[29-Dec-2008 03:07:48] **bitmonk> 2.10 for sure
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:05] **bzed> hmm if I remember right even zope2.10 works with python2.5 now
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:08] **bitmonk> i think at least it makes sense for zenoss to step forward into whatever the latest it can use for python 2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:12] **bitmonk> maybe so
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:16] **bzed> or debian and ubuntu patched it to do so
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:25] **bitmonk> yah not sure if i'd go that route
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:26] **bzed> I have to admit I didn;t look into ti for some time
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:56] **bzed> or it was just patched not to use /usr/bin/python but ..python2.4 instead
[29-Dec-2008 03:08:59] **bitmonk> that's why i prefer using ubuntu python2.4 and python-libxml2 python-imaging python-virtualenv etc.. and then just virtualenv into a buildout and let setuptools and zope community take me from there..
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:00] **bzed> no clue
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:05] **bitmonk> yah that's what i do
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:13] **bitmonk> i patch easy_install and virtualenv to use /usr/bin/python2.4
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:23] **bzed> I hate setuptools from a package view...
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:34] **bitmonk> well not everything can be an os pkg
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:34] **bzed> it's *SO* broken
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:41] **bitmonk> allows us to do dep resolution within a python app
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:46] **bitmonk> which we can do in any dir of the os
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:49] **bitmonk> compartmentalized
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:51] **bitmonk> pretty handy
[29-Dec-2008 03:09:54] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:02] **bzed> but not useable for packages
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:07] **bitmonk> zenoss takes that to an extreme by installing its' own python and mysql and every library ;d
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:23] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:24] **bitmonk> potentially, actually, such a tool should handle both cases..
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:29] **bzed> and even worse, they patch things...
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:34] **bitmonk> yes
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:36] **bzed> and never bring the patches to upstream
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:40] **bitmonk> well i'm working on at least turning that into a buildout
[29-Dec-2008 03:10:46] **bitmonk> which zope-land and python-land people can read
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:00] **bitmonk> want to talk people into turning ZenPacks into standard eggs, seems to be the trend anyway
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:00] **bzed> and some of the patches were weird, but if I remember right they were for windows only
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:09] **bitmonk> i think if i join the list and listen in people will be doing some of what i'd like to see
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:22] **bitmonk> yah well that happens in all python enterprise world :/
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:33] **bitmonk> fscking windoze
[29-Dec-2008 03:11:36] **bzed> yeah
[29-Dec-2008 09:23:19] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[29-Dec-2008 11:23:42] **locohost> it should show all the routs
[29-Dec-2008 11:24:01] **locohost> how many are there, how many does it show?
[29-Dec-2008 11:34:07] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[29-Dec-2008 12:36:27] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[29-Dec-2008 12:38:46] **magnachef> how many routes do you have?
[29-Dec-2008 13:13:31] **ke4qqq> hey guys - I was at 2.2.4 - and upgraded a few weeks ago to 2.3.0 and then even more recently to 2.3.2 - upgrades seemed to go ok- data accessible afterwords - everything seemed to be going great - except I stopped getting email notifications. - test messages work. Also the web interface just seems to die - data is still being collected, but Load Avg is so high I have to restart zenoss to get to the webui. Thoughts?
[29-Dec-2008 13:14:06] **ke4qqq> npmccallum: I have had two people look at zapplet - the package works - hope to have it in the repositories by end of the year.
[29-Dec-2008 13:15:48] **bitmonk> ke4qqq: what processes are using most resources when load avg is so high/
[29-Dec-2008 13:35:35] **Cosmin> magnachef the static routes that i have build
[29-Dec-2008 13:35:38] **Cosmin> they dont show up
[29-Dec-2008 13:36:06] **magnachef> but you are seeing some of the routes?
[29-Dec-2008 13:36:14] **Cosmin> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8431
[29-Dec-2008 13:36:21] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss not showing all the routes for an device (at forums.zenoss.com)
[29-Dec-2008 13:37:10] **bitmonk> ke4qqq: i'm quite knowledgeable with the technology behind the web interface, and i wonder if there may be a problem which only requires those bits to restart, not all of zenoss.. restarting zenoss entirely is pretty much almost never necessary, and gives me a headache
[29-Dec-2008 13:38:59] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: great
[29-Dec-2008 13:40:28] **magnachef> perhaps SNMP is timing out on that OID?
[29-Dec-2008 13:41:40] **ke4qqq> bitmonk: I am sure that all of zenoss doesn't need a restart, but I was lazy and service zenoss restart seems to fix it
[29-Dec-2008 13:42:42] **bitmonk> yah it's not just diagnostically helpful
[29-Dec-2008 13:43:13] **bitmonk> "every time my foot hurts, i kill myself. what's wrong, doc?" "problem is you've got very suicidal tendencies." :-P
[29-Dec-2008 13:44:32] **ke4qqq> does the initscript for zenoss allow me to merely restart zope?
[29-Dec-2008 13:44:42] **ke4qqq> or should I just sighup it?
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:14] **Cosmin> magnachef any ideeas?
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:38] **magnachef> I wonder if SNMP is timing out
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:52] **magnachef> how long does it take to query the device
[29-Dec-2008 13:45:56] **magnachef> for that OID
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:12] **Cosmin> hm..
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:14] **Cosmin> its pretty fast
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:18] **Cosmin> and its for all the devices
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:24] **Cosmin> and i font see any time out errors
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:38] **magnachef> what happens when you remodel the device? Does it show any errors?
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:46] **Cosmin> nope
[29-Dec-2008 13:46:57] **Cosmin> you want me to remodel it and past it somewhere?
[29-Dec-2008 13:47:08] **magnachef> yeah, throw it up on pastebin
[29-Dec-2008 13:52:31] **ke4qqq> so bitmonk - running top shows a python instance at 100%, grabbing 33% of memory and driving load average to 2.5ish - when I was on 2.2.4 - my load average was 0.08-0.25 consistently.
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:00] **bitmonk> which python instance?
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:04] **bitmonk> you have about twelve with zenoss..
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:16] **bitmonk> get its' pid and grep it out of ps auxf (give it COLUMNS=500 if you have to)
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:20] **ke4qqq> ohhh sorry http://fpaste.org/paste/423
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:27] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #423 (at fpaste.org)
[29-Dec-2008 13:53:30] **ke4qqq> did that already and failed to paste it.
[29-Dec-2008 13:55:02] **Cosmin> http://pastebin.com/d14a20fee
[29-Dec-2008 13:55:10] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[29-Dec-2008 13:57:06] **cmdln> Im trying to build a threshold for printers toner level
[29-Dec-2008 13:57:27] **cmdln> I have some data points Expected Pages and Remaining Pages
[29-Dec-2008 13:58:50] **Cosmin> magnachef what do you think?
[29-Dec-2008 14:00:02] **cmdln> I want to divide expected Pages by Remaining Pages then multiply by 10 and make sure thats greater than 5
[29-Dec-2008 14:00:13] **cmdln> (here.Expected Pages/here.Remaining Pages) * 10 < 5 but that does not appear to work
[29-Dec-2008 14:00:15] **Cosmin> i have 6 routes
[29-Dec-2008 14:02:27] **magnachef> not sure
[29-Dec-2008 14:02:56] **Cosmin> hmm..
[29-Dec-2008 14:03:43] **ke4qqq> cmdln - I think it could be an order of operations problem
[29-Dec-2008 14:04:55] **cmdln> well the error i get on the performance template is (missing)
[29-Dec-2008 14:04:56] **ke4qqq> hmmmm no
[29-Dec-2008 14:05:11] **ke4qqq> comparison is after multiplication
[29-Dec-2008 14:13:28] **cmdln> Perhaps it has to do with spaces in the data souces name?
[29-Dec-2008 15:25:02] **cmdln> How can I see what the last collected value for a data point is?
[29-Dec-2008 15:26:24] **magnachef> rrdtool fetch?
[29-Dec-2008 15:26:44] **magnachef> assuming you know the rrd file name
[29-Dec-2008 15:27:14] **cmdln> Values are only recorded in the rrd files?
[29-Dec-2008 15:27:33] **magnachef> I believe so, that's where the graph data is stored
[29-Dec-2008 15:28:39] **cmdln> Im trying to track down why when using counter type datapoint my graph does not show up, but it works fine with gauge
[29-Dec-2008 15:29:55] **magnachef> I wonder if you need to remove the old GAUGE rrd file
[29-Dec-2008 15:30:34] **magnachef> counter will take longer to show up though, as it will need to poll a couple times
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:14] **cmdln> ah
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:27] **cmdln> maybe thats the issue then
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:35] **magnachef> the best way to view if there is any updates is through the rrdtool command line tool
[29-Dec-2008 15:31:45] **magnachef> using fetch and last
[29-Dec-2008 15:32:05] **magnachef> last will tell you the last time it was updated, and fetch will show you the raw data in the rrd
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[30-Dec-2008 05:10:32] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[30-Dec-2008 06:01:28] **raddy> Aziraphale : Hi
[30-Dec-2008 06:03:48] **Aziraphale> hey
[30-Dec-2008 06:05:56] **raddy> Aziraphale : Do you have any prior experience in using Event Transform?
[30-Dec-2008 06:13:08] **raddy> Aziraphale : are you still here?
[30-Dec-2008 06:25:01] **Aziraphale> nope
[30-Dec-2008 06:25:27] **Aziraphale> rethe event transform
[30-Dec-2008 06:25:56] **Aziraphale> c0ck
[30-Dec-2008 06:26:20] **Aziraphale> that traphandling fix in 2.3.2 buggers up the oid matching
[30-Dec-2008 06:40:12] **Aziraphale> ah
[30-Dec-2008 06:40:17] **Aziraphale> have to use v2c now
[30-Dec-2008 07:10:23] ab is now known as bartroff
[30-Dec-2008 08:02:33] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[30-Dec-2008 08:03:08] **Aziraphale> what sort of device?
[30-Dec-2008 08:04:28] **Cosmin> a linux box
[30-Dec-2008 08:05:50] **Aziraphale> hm
[30-Dec-2008 08:06:22] **Aziraphale> shows the default route on one of mine alright
[30-Dec-2008 08:06:48] **ke4qqq> sooo... I have been exploring a bit more with my eat all available cpu problem with zope....and am seeing something strange. let me first declare that I have mysql stored on it's own spindle, and another spindle for /opt/zenoss/perf that said, I am seeing 6x the number of writes to one of my filesystems as I am seeing to opt/zenoss/perf - which would explain some of the high wait times. I am talking 675Blks wrtn/second
[30-Dec-2008 08:07:42] **Aziraphale> try the zenoss.snmp.NewRouteMap collector, maybe that works better
[30-Dec-2008 08:18:58] **Cosmin> Aziraphale the static routes that i have set up
[30-Dec-2008 08:19:05] **Cosmin> i see the default ones also
[30-Dec-2008 08:19:34] **Cosmin> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8431
[30-Dec-2008 08:19:41] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss not showing all the routes for an device (at forums.zenoss.com)
[30-Dec-2008 08:21:33] **bartroff> Has anyone had problems with Google maps geocoding the map, everytime you refresh / open dashboard?
[30-Dec-2008 08:22:01] **bartroff> I have like 150 locations on it - takes some time everytime
[30-Dec-2008 08:22:39] **bartroff> It started after i cleared the geolocation cache
[30-Dec-2008 08:23:07] **bartroff> Geocode cache.. sorry
[30-Dec-2008 08:36:14] **ke4qqq> bartroff: there was some traffic on the forum about it recently.
[30-Dec-2008 08:38:14] **bartroff> ah, found it - thanks
[30-Dec-2008 08:38:58] **ke4qqq> np
[30-Dec-2008 09:07:53] **Aziraphale> so, *now* I've used EventTransform...
[30-Dec-2008 09:20:26] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[30-Dec-2008 09:51:58] **ke4qqq> so bitmonk - mind if I pick your brain a bit....
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:06] **ke4qqq> I have been exploring a bit more with my eat all available cpu problem with zope....and am seeing something strange. let me
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:09] **ke4qqq> first declare that I have mysql stored on it's own spindle, and another spindle for /opt/zenoss/perf that said, I am seeing 6x the
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:12] **ke4qqq> number of writes to one of my filesystems as I am seeing to opt/zenoss/perf - which would explain some of the high wait times. I am
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:24] **ke4qqq> talking 675Blks wrtn/second
[30-Dec-2008 09:52:31] **ke4qqq> that was nice paste of a former question
[30-Dec-2008 10:29:35] **Cosmin> anyone know why Zenoss is not showing all the routes for an device?
[30-Dec-2008 10:40:19] **Faust-C> anyone expericening a issue w/ webui saying it cant connect to server
[30-Dec-2008 11:37:58] **SEJeff> How do you assign zProperties to a group? Surely that is possible but I'm not figuring it out
[30-Dec-2008 12:52:51] **fried1> Is anyone willing to help me out with some errors I'm getting building 2.3.2 from source?
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[31-Dec-2008 09:33:37] **zenChild> Anyone know if there is a way to remove device via the command line?
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:18] **Gecko> There's an entry on that in the developer's guide
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:32] **Gecko> It's pretty easy
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:34] **zenChild> k. i'll check there. thanx
[31-Dec-2008 09:34:40] **Gecko> np
[31-Dec-2008 09:41:57] **zenChild> Just in case anyone is following along and is curious... here is how to delete a device from the command line:
[31-Dec-2008 09:41:57] **zenChild> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch05s03.html
[31-Dec-2008 09:42:12] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Jan-2009 00:00:27] **kgoedtel> Happy New Year
