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[01-Jul-2007 06:56:09] <bilke> hi people
[01-Jul-2007 06:56:23] <bilke> i have strange problem with zenoss 2.0.0 on freebsd 5.3
[01-Jul-2007 06:56:47] <bilke> 207.218.219.221 sendto error short format requires 0<=number<=USHRT_MAX
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[01-Jul-2007 15:51:43] <Daveyboy> hi
[01-Jul-2007 15:51:51] <Daveyboy> cannot get any graphs
[01-Jul-2007 15:52:50] <Daveyboy> plz help
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[01-Jul-2007 21:29:39] <Tazdevil> Good evening everyone
[01-Jul-2007 21:30:11] <nassy> hi
[01-Jul-2007 21:31:40] <Tazdevil> New to Zenoss but so far i have it installed now i need to learn how to set it up so I can see my network
[01-Jul-2007 21:32:46] <Tazdevil> Do you know where I can get a good tutorial for it
[01-Jul-2007 21:33:20] <Tazdevil> show me how to configure it I have 2 local servers 1 remote server and 7 clients/workstations I wiould like to mintor
[01-Jul-2007 21:33:40] <Tazdevil> ooops
[01-Jul-2007 21:33:50] <Tazdevil> mintor*monitor
[01-Jul-2007 21:37:41] <nassy> Tazdevil: sorry, i don't. i am also new. only thing i can suggest is to start with the manual and then progress to the wiki and forums
[01-Jul-2007 21:41:45] <Tazdevil> Yeah I did that but looks like i will have to wrtie a tutorial for after the install .....
[01-Jul-2007 21:42:12] <Tazdevil> Where to start and such cuz i don't have a clue where to go from here
[01-Jul-2007 21:42:32] <Tazdevil> It has a real nice interface however it does not let me know where to start
[01-Jul-2007 21:42:56] <Tazdevil> I'll Just have to tinker with it I suppose
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[02-Jul-2007 05:39:04] <jsegura> is anyone alive?
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[02-Jul-2007 06:28:28] <jsegura> i need some help because i'm so confused
[02-Jul-2007 06:28:38] <jsegura> I have a zenoss monitor in a private network, in this network I have 2 machines
[02-Jul-2007 06:30:01] <jsegura> this 2 machines are monitored correctly and one of them
[02-Jul-2007 06:30:35] <jsegura> has another interface with one server I want to monitor
[02-Jul-2007 06:31:11] <jsegura> how can I monitor this server if my "zenoss server" can't connect to this second network
[02-Jul-2007 06:31:29] <jsegura> ?
[02-Jul-2007 06:31:43] <jsegura> maybe playing with zenhub but i'm noob in zenoss
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[02-Jul-2007 08:22:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good morning!
[02-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <cluther> Same to you, Bulwinkle.
[02-Jul-2007 08:22:48] <Bulwinkle> things went from bad to worse after you left Friday...
[02-Jul-2007 08:22:55] <cluther> How s?
[02-Jul-2007 08:23:23] <Bulwinkle> I couldn't get the zenhub process to keep running but I figured out the problem
[02-Jul-2007 08:24:33] <Bulwinkle> You had me delete the zeo1-1.zec file... I solved that by deleting BOTH the zeo1-1.zec and zenhub-1.zec files and starting the services
[02-Jul-2007 08:25:04] <Bulwinkle> You may want to see if you can recreate the problem on your system
[02-Jul-2007 08:25:25] <Bulwinkle> cluther: still can't add devices though
[02-Jul-2007 08:26:40] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I'm trying to reproduce the "add devices" issue on my side by making the same changes.
[02-Jul-2007 08:27:23] <Bulwinkle> cluther: okie... let me know what you get/if you find something for me to try.
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[02-Jul-2007 09:31:26] <John> Morning/afternoon all
[02-Jul-2007 09:31:46] <t35t0r> does it inventory hardware items on a system?
[02-Jul-2007 09:32:23] <t35t0r> like ocsinventory-ng ?
[02-Jul-2007 09:32:41] <t35t0r> we need a single solution that does everything nagios + ocsinventory-ng in one
[02-Jul-2007 09:32:52] <t35t0r> and that works with pg
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[02-Jul-2007 09:37:14] <soloman> Hello. I have 2 SNMP data sources. I want to collect data and build graphs every 1 minute for the first Datasource and every one hour for the second Data source. How can I do that?
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[02-Jul-2007 09:50:24] <John> Does anyone have any experience with extending the standard data model? I want to collect info on our Novell Netware NSS volumes and there are more stats than the standard data model support
[02-Jul-2007 09:50:51] <John> I've written a new data model and I think I have the relationship in place between OS and the new filesystem model - but I'm getting some errors
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[02-Jul-2007 10:04:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any news?
[02-Jul-2007 10:04:23] <John> Hello
[02-Jul-2007 10:04:32] <John> news on what?
[02-Jul-2007 10:15:56] <Bulwinkle> John: a problem we are working on
[02-Jul-2007 10:25:04] <John> Ahhh
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[02-Jul-2007 11:05:07] <tty01> anyone know why when i do a check via snmp and i enter the correct OID.....zenoss automatically appends another number?
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[02-Jul-2007 11:06:15] <withoutend> Hello
[02-Jul-2007 11:08:31] <withoutend> I have a small problem with Python. I'm running RH7 and installed Zenoss with the package, but when it starts it complains that the Python C API version mismatches
[02-Jul-2007 11:09:09] <withoutend> err, not RH7, Fedora 7
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[02-Jul-2007 11:17:19] <withoutend> not so much?
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[02-Jul-2007 11:33:33] <John>
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[02-Jul-2007 11:38:49] <jaredo> anyone know how to fix the drop down menu in the web interface so it appears ontop of the other boxes instead of behind where it is unaccessible?
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[02-Jul-2007 14:21:19] <shakeSpear> hi, does anyone know how to run 2 or more monitors with different steps (e.g. 60s + 300s) on one server?
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[02-Jul-2007 15:05:49] <bmunger> my graphs are empty, the install guide didnt mention anything for graph tools, do i need something like rrdtool?
[02-Jul-2007 15:22:04] <shakeSpear> bmunger: maybe a permission problem?
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[02-Jul-2007 15:39:31] <bmunger> how do i know shakeSpear?
[02-Jul-2007 15:39:41] <bmunger> doesnt put an error out
[02-Jul-2007 15:42:46] <shakeSpear> hmm - just a guess - the directories with the rrd-files have to be writeable for the zenoss user
[02-Jul-2007 15:45:25] <bmunger> well does the zenoss package come with rrd?
[02-Jul-2007 15:48:09] <bzed> yes
[02-Jul-2007 15:48:43] <bmunger> ok
[02-Jul-2007 15:48:56] <bmunger> just found it in the etc directory of zenhome
[02-Jul-2007 15:49:02] <bmunger> but broken images are still there
[02-Jul-2007 15:49:17] <bmunger> should i chown -R zenoss:zenoss /opt/zenoss ?
[02-Jul-2007 15:59:01] <shakeSpear> bmunger: i didn't mean the rrdtool binaries - the folder storing the rrd-databases has to be writeable
[02-Jul-2007 16:00:55] <shakeSpear> chown zenoss.zenoss could do the job I think
[02-Jul-2007 16:01:20] <shakeSpear> how are the permissions currently set?
[02-Jul-2007 16:02:44] <bzed> bmunger: afaik the rrd stuff is stored in the perf folder, which needs to be writeable by zenoss
[02-Jul-2007 16:03:33] <bmunger> i tried the chown no go
[02-Jul-2007 16:03:43] <bmunger> it did change all the permissions
[02-Jul-2007 16:04:01] <bmunger> i just removed zenoss and reinstalling because i changed the hostname after it was installed and it got kinda messed up
[02-Jul-2007 16:06:05] <bmunger> damn it it kept the data even after i took out mysql
[02-Jul-2007 16:06:45] <bzed> host data is not saved in mysql
[02-Jul-2007 16:06:55] <bzed> i guess you could have changed that in the zope dmd
[02-Jul-2007 16:07:43] <bmunger> well i removed zenoss and removed mysql
[02-Jul-2007 16:07:52] <bmunger> didn't kill the data
[02-Jul-2007 16:08:30] <bzed> not sure where the ZEO stores it's data in the default zenoss install
[02-Jul-2007 16:08:59] <bmunger> might have to reinstall the os again
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:01] <bzed> dude, you're not on windows!
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:09] <bmunger> hehe
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:13] <bmunger> i know
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:24] <bmunger> loosk like it didnt kill the /opt/zenoss directory when rpm removed
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:28] <bmunger> so i killed that directory
[02-Jul-2007 16:15:09] <bmunger> that didnt do it
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[02-Jul-2007 16:15:39] <bmunger> startover time
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[02-Jul-2007 16:44:27] <Driador> afternoon all... can anyone point me to a link on the site (or tell me) what o/s platforms zenoss enterprise is supported on?
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:33] <bzed> should work on all recent linux versions
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:43] <Driador> what about FreeBSD?
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:50] <bzed> and there're people who managed to install it on *BSD< too
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:55] <Driador> k
[02-Jul-2007 16:47:05] <bzed> but that seems to need some manual fixes
[02-Jul-2007 16:47:17] <Driador> just wanted to make sure it's an officially supported platform if we look for support
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[02-Jul-2007 16:56:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you around?
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[02-Jul-2007 17:27:32] <chowmeined> I have all these events coming up about localhost.localdomain.. how can i get rid of them?
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[02-Jul-2007 17:32:12] <chowmeined> There is this one error in the logs: CRITICAL zen.ZenPing 'localhost.localdomain' not found, ignoring network topology.
[02-Jul-2007 17:32:52] <bzed> sounds like you wanna add localhost.localdomain to /etc/hosts
[02-Jul-2007 17:32:56] <bzed> for 127.0.0.1
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:22] <chowmeined> can i just.. not monitor it?
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:25] <chowmeined> and just monitor localhost
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:32] <bzed> you wanna monitor it.
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:53] <chowmeined> ok
[02-Jul-2007 17:35:08] <chowmeined> but they were still in there before
[02-Jul-2007 17:35:36] <chowmeined> they all say: localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure .. same error but with zenmodeler and zenping and zenactions
[02-Jul-2007 17:36:23] <chowmeined> can i tell it not to track hostnames? because it is doing a reverse dns lookup and getting different dns names so errors for those keep accumulating
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[02-Jul-2007 17:43:02] <markl_> is this an appropriate place for a newb question? I installed zenoss but i don't have a users option under the management tab. is that bad, or is the PDF just out of date?
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[02-Jul-2007 18:55:11] <scrip> hello, is anyone in here NOT afk?
[02-Jul-2007 18:55:38] <chowmeined> im not
[02-Jul-2007 18:55:43] <scrip> awesome!
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:01] <chowmeined> i still cant figure out why the vmachine is broken
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:02] <chowmeined> but oh well
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:18] <scrip> do you know of a way to assign a device name when its added? I can add a device by IP and the name is then set to the name it gives via SNMP
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:37] <scrip> I can then change it, but this causes problems maintaining the system
[02-Jul-2007 18:59:11] <scrip> why is your vm machine broken?
[02-Jul-2007 18:59:43] <chowmeined> its listing like 20 errors
[02-Jul-2007 18:59:45] <chowmeined> but nothing is wrong
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:03] <scrip> uh... would you mind explaining those last two statements?
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:14] <chowmeined> there are 20 events listed
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:20] <chowmeined> a bunch of
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:41] <chowmeined> localhost.localdomain zentrap heartbeat failure localhost.localdomain zensyslog heartbeat failurelocalhost.localdomain zenwinmodeler heartbeat failure
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:07] <scrip> ah, I thought you meant the vm machine itself was having trouble
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:10] <chowmeined> plus theres a bunch of other workstations being listed
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:17] <chowmeined> i hate auto discovery
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:25] <chowmeined> 99% of the computers i _dont_ want to monitor
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:30] <scrip> can't help you, check that all the daemons are running? check their log files, turn up verbosity if that doesn't help
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:36] <chowmeined> nothing is wrong
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:42] <chowmeined> its just spewing errors
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:55] <scrip> those are internal zenoss problems, I think
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:12] <chowmeined> well i cant use it like this.. thats too many false positives
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:41] <chowmeined> oh well
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:42] <scrip> the _NON_ paid support is gonna kill zenoss I think, I'm trying to set it up at my work now, but I can never get any information out of any of the devs on the forums or here until more than a week after posting
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:58] <chowmeined> maybe ill go try opennms
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:02] <scrip> and theres no way I'm gonna convince my boss to spend money on this if I can't even make it work
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:10] <chowmeined> yea, i wont be able to either
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:18] <chowmeined> i mean once i get it set up.. they would buy a support contract
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:26] <scrip> but those errors should be easy to fix, have you looked at the log files?
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:32] <chowmeined> yes
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:39] <chowmeined> theres only some warnings in there
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:53] <chowmeined> but it shouldnt have these.. this is just the vmachine i downloaded off the site
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:05] <scrip> yeah, true
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:07] <chowmeined> it should be all setup perfectly.. they made it..
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:15] <scrip> are you running 2.0? I went back to 1.2 because it ran better
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:40] <chowmeined> yea 2.0
[02-Jul-2007 19:05:01] <scrip> hm, I had weird problems with 2.0, though I wasn't able to track them down either
[02-Jul-2007 19:05:57] <chowmeined> 2007-07-02 15:58:14 CRITICAL zen.ZenPing: ZenPing 'dev2203' not found,ignoring network topology.
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:21] <chowmeined> i turned off auto discovery.. and i only have 1 device added.. where the heck are these other things coming from?
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:30] <chowmeined> i wonder if they update opennms...
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:34] <chowmeined> have you tried it?
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:45] <chowmeined> updated*
[02-Jul-2007 19:07:10] <chowmeined> their channel actually has people in it too
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:01] <scrip> I looked at opennms, but it was missing features I needed
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:06] <scrip> I think it was alerting
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:18] <chowmeined> well the windows support wasnt as integrated
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:22] <chowmeined> and we have a ton of windows machines.. so
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:38] <scrip> but yeah, zenoss is the only really good open source project I could find for what I'm doing and their documentation is horrible
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:55] <scrip> ah, yeah, I'm monitoring a few hundred retarded little embeded linux boxes
[02-Jul-2007 19:12:29] <bzed> scrip: I'm always trying to poke them to move to a proper tex file with ther documentataion instead of the neo-office document
[02-Jul-2007 19:12:52] <chowmeined> i like PDFs
[02-Jul-2007 19:13:07] <chowmeined> the tex font hurts my eyes.. but oh well
[02-Jul-2007 19:13:42] <bzed> you can change that
[02-Jul-2007 19:13:58] <chowmeined> ok
[02-Jul-2007 19:14:47] <scrip> so, can anyone here enlighten me to what the device name IS?
[02-Jul-2007 19:14:55] <scrip> is there I reason I can't seem to set it when I add the device?
[02-Jul-2007 19:15:17] <scrip> does it have to be a resolvable host name as long as I set a management IP address?
[02-Jul-2007 19:15:44] <chowmeined> i dont know..
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[02-Jul-2007 20:13:25] <markl_> for paging, my phone company has an email address i can use - how do i configure this in zenoss?
[02-Jul-2007 20:13:38] <markl_> snpp seems to be a little bit on the useless side these days, unless i'm missing something
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[02-Jul-2007 22:02:33] <solarce> cluther: !!!!
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[02-Jul-2007 22:04:59] <cluther> cluther: Feed? I didn't know I had such a thing.
[02-Jul-2007 22:07:04] <solarce> sorry, i was thinking of creiht
[02-Jul-2007 22:07:05] <solarce>
[02-Jul-2007 22:07:55] <cluther> solarce: That's okay. I don't mind being mistaken for creiht.
[02-Jul-2007 22:09:00] <cluther> solarce: What is his blog address anyway?
[02-Jul-2007 22:09:28] <solarce> dunno
[02-Jul-2007 22:09:32] <solarce> just his delicious
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[02-Jul-2007 22:10:14] <solarce> :>
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[03-Jul-2007 00:41:05] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've instaled zenoss and added a linux server to monitor. However, I don't see any graphs, uptime and dik used/free space are displayed as 'unknown'. What's wrong? Looked through the documentation but found no solution for that... Any ideas? Thanks.
[03-Jul-2007 00:50:57] <hid3> Hello... anybody here?
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[03-Jul-2007 01:14:06] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've instaled zenoss and added a linux server to monitor. However, I don't see any graphs, uptime and dik used/free space are displayed as 'unknown'. What's wrong? Looked through the documentation but found no solution for that... Any ideas? Thanks.
[03-Jul-2007 01:24:01] <hid3> Seems like a botnet
[03-Jul-2007 01:24:06] <hid3> ok, I'll try once more:
[03-Jul-2007 01:24:09] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've instaled zenoss and added a linux server to monitor. However, I don't see any graphs, uptime and dik used/free space are displayed as 'unknown'. What's wrong? Looked through the documentation but found no solution for that... Any ideas? Thanks.
[03-Jul-2007 01:34:15] <kompressor> hid3, do you have snmp installed on your server
[03-Jul-2007 02:03:29] <hid3> sure
[03-Jul-2007 02:03:48] <hid3> well, actually it was on localhost
[03-Jul-2007 02:04:18] <hid3> minutes ago I added one more server (linux), I see correct snmp requests/replies, however, the result is still the same.
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[03-Jul-2007 08:09:10] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good morning
[03-Jul-2007 08:12:35] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Good morning. Sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday. I tried to reproduce your problem, but got swept up in other things.
[03-Jul-2007 08:12:55] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I wasn't able to make my install throw up a blank page when adding a device unfortunately.
[03-Jul-2007 08:13:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: No problem.... What do you think a reinstall of the RPM might do?
[03-Jul-2007 08:16:55] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Not too much. You'd have to erase the existing RPM first, and that's not a good idea.
[03-Jul-2007 08:17:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Did you try to remove all of the changes we made?
[03-Jul-2007 08:19:46] <Bulwinkle> cluther: The only change I remember making was the edit of the InterfaceMap.py
[03-Jul-2007 08:20:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: should I remove the ZenPack too?
[03-Jul-2007 08:20:56] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Yes. After you remove it, make sure that the $ZENHOME/Products/MyCustomPack directory is gone too.
[03-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: It won't let me delete the ZenPack from the GUI
[03-Jul-2007 08:23:18] <cluther> What's the error?
[03-Jul-2007 08:25:22] <Bulwinkle> No error, just doesn't go away
[03-Jul-2007 08:27:01] <Bulwinkle> cluther: shrug?
[03-Jul-2007 08:28:34] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Try going to /zport/dmd/packs/manage_main
[03-Jul-2007 08:28:44] <cluther> Bulwinkle: See if you can remove it there.
[03-Jul-2007 08:29:53] <Bulwinkle> cluther: alrighty... Houston, we have a problem....
[03-Jul-2007 08:29:55] <cluther> Bulwinkle: That would be the part of the URL after :8080.. not a file system directory.
[03-Jul-2007 08:32:51] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Okay, got it.... I Moved the SeparateVLAN to back it up (instead of cp)... (OOPS)
[03-Jul-2007 08:33:38] <Bulwinkle> cluther: thats the good news... the bad news is that I still can't add a device
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[03-Jul-2007 08:37:43] <cluther> Bulwinkle: So the ZenPack is gone, and it's directory is gone?
[03-Jul-2007 08:38:09] <cluther> Bulwinkle: The directory needs to be somewhere outside of the Products directory so that Zope won't pick it up.
[03-Jul-2007 08:38:18] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeppers... its in /root
[03-Jul-2007 08:38:31] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Okay, then restart zenoss and try adding a device again.
[03-Jul-2007 08:42:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: no go....
[03-Jul-2007 08:44:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: hmm.. you could try upgrading to the 2.0.1 RPM. http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-2.0.1-0.el4.i386.rpm
[03-Jul-2007 08:47:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: should work fine with fc6?
[03-Jul-2007 08:48:45] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Which RPM do you have installed now?
[03-Jul-2007 08:49:51] <Bulwinkle> el5
[03-Jul-2007 08:50:24] <cluther> ok, hold off on that. They haven't put the el5 RPM out for 2.0.1 quite yet.
[03-Jul-2007 08:50:38] <cluther> cluther: The dependencies are a bit different.
[03-Jul-2007 08:50:43] * Bulwinkle shakes his fist at the zenoss gods
[03-Jul-2007 08:52:16] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm going to do a clean install once I move zenoss to production. I'd like to run it on SuSE... any gotchas? I'd really rather build from source too....
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[03-Jul-2007 08:54:35] <cluther> Bulwinkle: There are people running on SuSE. Upgrades tend to be a bit smoother with the RPM install method. Why would you rather build from source?
[03-Jul-2007 08:56:30] <Bulwinkle> cluther: so if the developers come out with a quick fix for some problem I am having I don't have to wait for an RPM
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[03-Jul-2007 08:56:40] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Fair enough.
[03-Jul-2007 08:58:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm kind of anal like that....
[03-Jul-2007 09:09:22] <Bulwinkle> cluther: since I am planning on buying support once I go prod
[03-Jul-2007 09:15:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: maybe taking a class too
[03-Jul-2007 09:16:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: how often are the classes held?
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[03-Jul-2007 09:49:15] <Bulwinkle> Why is everyone dropping?>
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[03-Jul-2007 10:36:06] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I just applied for that open position at ZenOSS
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:23] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Wohooo!
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:23] <creiht>
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:31] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Good luck!
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:51] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle: dev position? (haven't looked as you can tell)
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:53] <Bulwinkle> Heheh... Thanks... The 40% travel probably wont sit well with my wife....
[03-Jul-2007 10:37:17] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: no, looks like an implementation consultant
[03-Jul-2007 10:39:06] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Where are you located?
[03-Jul-2007 10:39:30] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle: well good luck :-D
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[03-Jul-2007 11:02:59] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Think I should wait until 2.0.1 comes out for EL5 to fix the problem?
[03-Jul-2007 11:04:38] <MoreDakka_> Here is a fun fun question. Can a system be put on Maintenance from 1-4am every day to suppress alerts while the system does a reboot or whatever at the time?
[03-Jul-2007 11:04:49] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It must be something simple.. after all, it didn't used to happen.
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:02] <Bulwinkle> cluther: not until you broke it
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:05] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Could you try adding a device again, then looking in $ZENHOME/log/zenhub.log for errors?
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:15] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I only told you how to break it.
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Under the guise of helping.
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:37] <Bulwinkle> cluther: well, I certainly follow instructions well
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:45] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I can't believe you fell for it! =}
[03-Jul-2007 11:06:33] <Bulwinkle> cluther: You'd think I'd know better
[03-Jul-2007 11:07:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: tail of zenhub.log has several entries of WARNING: zenhub: removing listener (from today at 7:44:31)
[03-Jul-2007 11:08:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Nothing around the time you were adding devices?
[03-Jul-2007 11:08:10] <Bulwinkle> cluther: nopers
[03-Jul-2007 11:08:50] <cluther> Bulwinkle: How about the zenmodeler.log file?
[03-Jul-2007 11:10:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: tons of stuff in there.... Nothing with the IP address of the device I tried to add
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[03-Jul-2007 11:13:27] <MoreDakka_> cluther: in 2.0 (or future) will Zenoss have an option to use the Informant, WMI or neither to gather snmp cpu and memory stats from windows boxes? It would be nice to not have to install anything on the servers by default then if you want to have more detailed monitoring then put in the informant or wmi.
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[03-Jul-2007 11:27:26] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: you can always have different groups that poll things differently to separate WMI/SNMP/NONE polling'
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[03-Jul-2007 11:55:14] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle: I guess the problem is that every other monitoring system out there will monitor windows boxes without any installing of 3rd party mibs or programs by default.
[03-Jul-2007 11:56:27] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: Looks like ZenOSS Enterprise version will do it
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[03-Jul-2007 12:27:01] <MoreDakka_> Here is a fun fun question. Can a system be put on Maintenance from 1-4am every day to suppress alerts while the system does a reboot or whatever at the time?
[03-Jul-2007 12:27:48] <MoreDakka_> nevermind. found it....
[03-Jul-2007 12:27:51] <MoreDakka_> <- blind sometimes
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[03-Jul-2007 12:34:41] <solarce> MoreDakka_: you should put up a bounty for a zenoss component that can do windows performance monitoring with no extra components installed on the windows servers
[03-Jul-2007 12:37:37] <MoreDakka_> solarce: put up a bounty?
[03-Jul-2007 12:37:49] <solarce> MoreDakka_: yeah
[03-Jul-2007 12:37:58] <MoreDakka_> What do you mean?
[03-Jul-2007 12:38:19] <solarce> MoreDakka_: offer $ for someone to write it
[03-Jul-2007 12:39:27] <MoreDakka_> Ahhh, it's just odd that wouldn't be in the software by default. I have found the OIDs to read the cpu from windows without the informant but the memory usage requires a calculation to get it working and zenoss can't do that (yet)
[03-Jul-2007 12:39:39] <MoreDakka_> If I had money to pay someone I probably could ask for that ;-)
[03-Jul-2007 12:42:06] <bmunger> so how exactly do i setup zenoss to monitor if specific unix processes are running
[03-Jul-2007 12:47:14] <cluther> bmunger: Take a look at section 11.4 of the 2.0 admin guide. It explains how process monitoring works. It is the same for Windows or *nix.
[03-Jul-2007 12:48:29] <bmunger> thank you
[03-Jul-2007 12:50:13] <bmunger> looks like i can only set processes for all boxes not per specific machines
[03-Jul-2007 12:51:16] <cluther> bmunger: It works per machine. The modeling phase actually figures out which processes are running on which devices.
[03-Jul-2007 12:51:35] <cluther> bmunger: You can then choose to globally monitor (or not monitor) a process, or define it at the per-device level.
[03-Jul-2007 12:51:55] <bmunger> oh cool
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:07] <solarce> MoreDakka_: obviously other features take a higher priority
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:13] <bmunger> how is a remodel done?
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:34] <cluther> bmunger: From a device, click the page menu, Manage, Model..
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:45] <bmunger> thanks again
[03-Jul-2007 12:53:06] <cluther> solarce: Not really.. native WMI perf counter polling is a very high priority. This would address MoreDakka's issue.
[03-Jul-2007 12:53:51] <solarce> cluther: I know, but my point is, other things came first
[03-Jul-2007 12:54:33] <cluther> solarce: I can't argue with that. I think network device and Linux monitoring were higher priorities out of the gate.
[03-Jul-2007 12:54:37] <bmunger> so is there a way to add a tab to show the processes being monitoried on a specific box?
[03-Jul-2007 12:54:57] <cluther> bmunger: Processes are listed on the OS tab.
[03-Jul-2007 12:55:19] <bmunger> oops i was looking at the software, thanks!
[03-Jul-2007 12:56:00] <bmunger> great software
[03-Jul-2007 12:56:15] <solarce> bmunger: I agree!
[03-Jul-2007 12:57:45] <MoreDakka_> cluther: This software would be near perfect if it could do that (ther other thing would be a much easier way to customize reports)
[03-Jul-2007 13:00:32] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Those are two things that are asked about an awful lot. The first one is easy, just requires a bit of time to write a proper plugin. The second one is hard and a major focus of our Enterprise product.
[03-Jul-2007 13:01:03] <cluther> MoreDakka_: On the other hand. Once you do a few good reports it becomes much easier and VERY powerful.
[03-Jul-2007 13:03:47] <MoreDakka_> I have always found that coding something by had is always better but takes a long time to learn and master the code...that's the problem that I'm having with the current reporting system, I just can't wrap my head around how it all works
[03-Jul-2007 13:03:49] <MoreDakka_> If in the Maintenance Window I set the "Start Production State" to Maintenance, the alerts that I have that only search for Production devices will not report on that device, correct? Then when the timer is complete (Duration = 3 hours) and the Stop Production State sets the box back to Production so all the alerts apply again, correct?
[03-Jul-2007 13:07:20] <bmunger> is it possible to reset the zenoss shell account password without causing problems.. i need to use it for mailing alerts
[03-Jul-2007 13:09:58] <bmunger> nm
[03-Jul-2007 13:11:07] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Your explanation of maintenance windows is correct.
[03-Jul-2007 13:11:18] <MoreDakka_> Awesome, thanks cluther :-D
[03-Jul-2007 13:14:58] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Maybe you could use a better starting place for your report creation.
[03-Jul-2007 13:16:45] <MoreDakka_> cluther: what do you mean? I've tried examining all the reports that are in by default to see if I can grasp the language used but no go. Should I start learning how to code in python? That might be a better place to start?
[03-Jul-2007 13:17:49] <cluther> MoreDakka_: You will need to know some python in order to properly populated the "objects" variable that is used as the data for the report, but there are a lot of other speedbumps along the way.
[03-Jul-2007 13:18:30] <MoreDakka_> :-/ Oh well, I'll try my best to try to figure this out. ;-)
[03-Jul-2007 13:19:39] <MoreDakka_> Will ease of reporting end up in Core or is that just Enterprise?
[03-Jul-2007 13:22:35] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Not sure yet. I emailed you some info to get you helped on reports.
[03-Jul-2007 13:25:01] <MoreDakka_> Awesome, thanks. But what email addy did you use?
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[03-Jul-2007 13:33:49] <MoreDakka_> Ah, got it. Thanks cluther!!!
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[03-Jul-2007 13:58:28] <MoreDakka_> cluther: will this example of a custom report work with v1.1.1?
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[03-Jul-2007 15:05:39] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any other ideas on things for me to try?
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[03-Jul-2007 17:06:27] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone tell me why zenoss is chewing up 98% cpu cycle? "21358 zenoss 15 0 187m 138m 4344 S 98.7 13.7 130:07.76 python2.4"
[03-Jul-2007 17:08:21] <MoreDakka_> That pid == zopectl
[03-Jul-2007 17:08:43] <MoreDakka_> I'm going to have to try to restart the process.
[03-Jul-2007 17:15:15] <MoreDakka_> well a restart of all the zenoss processes fixed that issue. Are there any log files that I can look through to find out why it was beating my server down?
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[03-Jul-2007 17:33:22] * |__rb__| says hi to the room
[03-Jul-2007 17:34:16] <|__rb__|> I have Zenoss installed on Linux machine, having trouble pulling snmp performance graphs for Windows boxes, can anyone, thanks
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[03-Jul-2007 17:42:27] <|__rb__|> anyone?
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[03-Jul-2007 18:15:56] <|__rb__|> Bueller? Bueller?
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[03-Jul-2007 18:17:48] <MoreDakka_> I won't be of much help but what are you looking for?
[03-Jul-2007 18:18:34] <|__rb__|> just trying to graph the cpu mem performance for windows, but it won't show, works ok on linux machines and router and such, but no performance graphs for windows
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:15] <MoreDakka_> Ooo...I can help ;-)
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:19] <solarce> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:20] <solarce> MoreDakka_:
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:25] <MoreDakka_> You need the SNMP Informant.
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:26] <|__rb__|> kewl
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:32] <|__rb__|> I have it already installed
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:33] <MoreDakka_> installed on the windows machine
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:36] <MoreDakka_> uhh...hmmm
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:54] <solarce> does snmp informant have any ACL settings?
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:54] <|__rb__|> yep, that's what I say
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:01] <|__rb__|> not that Iknow of,
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:09] <MoreDakka_> I'm assuming all the basic stuff is good like your community and such.
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:13] <|__rb__|> I just setup which ip's for server it can be pulled and the community name
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:16] <|__rb__|> yep
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:27] <MoreDakka_> firewalls?
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:31] <solarce> well, solar flares are unusually high today
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:34] <MoreDakka_> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:43] <MoreDakka_> aren't the planets aligning too?
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:45] <|__rb__|> nope
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:54] <solarce> your polarity may have been reversed
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:00] <MoreDakka_> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:01] <|__rb__|> I can try to reinstall, but I don't think it'll help
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:10] <|__rb__|> solarce!!!
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:28] <MoreDakka_> What happens when you try to Collect Configuration?
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:04] <|__rb__|> the configuration get's collected ok, everything seems toshow ok under the os tab, but no graphs display under perf
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:18] <MoreDakka> How long have you let it sit?
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:29] <MoreDakka> I've been told like 15-20 minutes.
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:32] <|__rb__|> by now, couple weeks
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:36] <MoreDakka> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:39] <MoreDakka> hmmm
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:43] <|__rb__|> ya
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:45] <MoreDakka> too long....you messed it up
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:47] <MoreDakka> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:54] <|__rb__|> hehhe
[03-Jul-2007 18:24:10] <MoreDakka> well, no idea. The Informant was my only smart answer
[03-Jul-2007 18:24:31] <|__rb__|> it's crazy, as much as I don't like windows, they are giving me the most trouble
[03-Jul-2007 18:24:45] <|__rb__|> maybe I'll try to uninstall and reinstall snmp as well as informant,
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:03] <MoreDakka> that might be your best bet...or try WMI (I've never tried it).
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:05] <|__rb__|> I've done some searches on the net, seems like the informant is a good solution for this type of stuff
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:11] <|__rb__|> ya,
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:34] <|__rb__|> I think i have to upgrade to the 2.0 version and also upgrade samba to be able to dothe WMI pulls
[03-Jul-2007 18:28:42] <MoreDakka> or use a 2nd windows box other than your zenoss box. what v of zenoss are you running?
[03-Jul-2007 18:29:37] <|__rb__|> it's 1.1.2
[03-Jul-2007 18:30:13] <MoreDakka> I'm one back from you. I'm waiting for 2.1 before upgrading (has the features I'm looking for). My day is done, have a good evening.
[03-Jul-2007 18:31:40] <|__rb__|> thank you foryour help, enjoy
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[03-Jul-2007 21:59:17] <jeisenberg4925> i have been using zenoss for a while. i was wondering how to update via the trunk. can someone tell me if that will be effective to go from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1?
[03-Jul-2007 22:01:10] <jeisenberg4925> anyone?
[03-Jul-2007 22:11:24] <bzed> 2.0.1 was released, you shoudl be able to ugrade it as usually
[03-Jul-2007 22:11:27] <bzed> no need for svn
[03-Jul-2007 22:12:03] <bzed> but.. I don;t have any real clue about that, I'm only working on packages for debian
[03-Jul-2007 22:13:25] <jeisenberg4925> i am using centos and had a bad experience just upgrading an hour ago. at least i backed up the old instance before the upgrade. it failed on zenwin and some python deps (i think)
[03-Jul-2007 22:15:58] <jeisenberg4925> i guess i will read more in the forums in the next few days. i am sure i am not the only one with the issues.
[03-Jul-2007 22:16:01] <jeisenberg4925>
[03-Jul-2007 22:16:05] <jeisenberg4925> night folks
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[04-Jul-2007 05:01:40] <Darkfang> hi
[04-Jul-2007 05:03:12] <Darkfang> anyone alive?
[04-Jul-2007 05:03:42] <jsegura> yep
[04-Jul-2007 05:05:27] <Darkfang> i've installed zenoss a few days ago. It's working great
[04-Jul-2007 05:05:35] <Darkfang> but i'd like to add some functionnality
[04-Jul-2007 05:05:50] <Darkfang> the fact is i'm new to python and specially to zope
[04-Jul-2007 05:06:13] <Darkfang> so i'm still trying to understand how zope, zeo and the python scripts are working together
[04-Jul-2007 05:06:38] <Darkfang> do you know where i can find something helpful about it?
[04-Jul-2007 05:18:17] <Darkfang> it seems not ^^
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[04-Jul-2007 05:40:08] <jsegura> sorry
[04-Jul-2007 05:40:10] <jsegura> i was on breakfast time
[04-Jul-2007 05:40:14] <jsegura> I can't help you, I'm in the same situation as you
[04-Jul-2007 05:51:12] <Darkfang> k ^^
[04-Jul-2007 05:51:26] <Darkfang> i'm trying to navigate in the "manage" interface of zope
[04-Jul-2007 05:51:38] <Darkfang> but i don't understand much ^^
[04-Jul-2007 06:09:11] <Darkfang> yeahhh did it
[04-Jul-2007 06:09:26] <Darkfang> manage to add a button in the device menu bar
[04-Jul-2007 06:50:10] <Darkfang> who should be contacted for bug correcting?
[04-Jul-2007 06:59:51] <jsegura> maybe the bug page in sourceforge
[04-Jul-2007 06:59:59] <jsegura> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=826503&group_id=163126&func=browse
[04-Jul-2007 06:59:59] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Bugs (at sourceforge.net)
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[04-Jul-2007 16:45:07] <MoreDakka> quiet in here today.
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[04-Jul-2007 20:24:02] <thedude42> having trouble with alerts.. i can send test e mails, but for the life of me i can't get an alert to send when an event occurs
[04-Jul-2007 20:25:03] <creiht> thedude42: Do you have a delay set for the alert?
[04-Jul-2007 20:25:17] <thedude42> one one test alert yes, on another one no
[04-Jul-2007 20:26:05] <thedude42> i assume it's not necessary to restart the zenaction daemon after each update to an alert rule
[04-Jul-2007 20:26:13] <creiht> you shouldn't have to
[04-Jul-2007 20:26:28] <creiht> thedude42: I would check your zenaction.log for any errors first
[04-Jul-2007 20:27:01] <thedude42> right, that's what's bugging me... zenaction seems to think it has nothing to do at all
[04-Jul-2007 20:27:08] <thedude42> endless list of processing 0 jobs
[04-Jul-2007 20:27:12] <creiht> hrmm
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:18] <thedude42> my understanding of the alert system is that it requires an activation window in order to schedule monitoring
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:19] <creiht> How long ago did you add the alerts?
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:41] <creiht> activation window?
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:42] <thedude42> the original one was created last week, this one i created about an hour ago for testing
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:48] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:13] <creiht> Unfortunately I'm not at work today so I don't have access to my zenoss install
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:22] <thedude42> sorry... active period, not activationw indow
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:26] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:41] <creiht> Are you sure all the other criteria are met?
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:57] <creiht> Like check the level of the event that is happening
[04-Jul-2007 20:30:07] <creiht> and compare that to what level it will alert on
[04-Jul-2007 20:30:42] <thedude42> yup, positive... i even elevated the severity of the service i'm using to test in order to guarantee it meets the minimum for default alert settings
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:02] <thedude42> hm
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:11] <thedude42> is the zenactions config file supposed to be blank?
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:29] <creiht> thedude42: I don't think that would cause a problem
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:35] <creiht> I think mine is blank as well
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:56] <thedude42> i'm noticing that most of the daemon configs are blank, so i assume that's only for debugging or other non standard configs
[04-Jul-2007 20:33:10] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:13] <thedude42> zenoss has to be using it's own mail client, because my mail logs aren't showing anything for the successful test messages
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:13] <creiht> thedude42: You might try running zenaction manually while the service is down and set verbose logging to see if it revels anything
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:38] <creiht> something like:
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:54] <creiht> zenaction run -v10
[04-Jul-2007 20:37:04] <creiht> That is off the top of my head
[04-Jul-2007 20:38:44] <thedude42> hm
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:05] <thedude42> root@abydos:/usr/local/zenoss/bin# zenactions run -v10
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:05] <thedude42> DEBUG:zen.ZenActions:loading action rules for:zenwin
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:05] <thedude42> DEBUG:zen.ZenActions:loading action rules for:zenoss
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:16] <creiht> hmm
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:18] <thedude42> so, the 2 users i added are there
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:27] <thedude42> but it's not loading the actions for admin
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:54] <thedude42> which would make sense that it's not processing any jobs, because i added nothing for these users
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:02] <thedude42> ok, now the log has something
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:48] <thedude42> haha.. my phone can't handle the messahe
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:51] <thedude42> message
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:58] <thedude42> ok, that answers that question
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:03] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:04] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:05] <creiht> good
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:22] <thedude42> i mean, what's up with aenaction not processing the admin alert rules
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:30] <thedude42> i'd think that would be a default action
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:47] <creiht> thedude42: That is a good question... I'm not sure
[04-Jul-2007 20:50:17] <thedude42> well, i'll accept it as is since it's pretty trivial to create new uersers
[04-Jul-2007 20:50:22] <thedude42> users
[04-Jul-2007 20:50:47] <thedude42> but my understanding of the alerting schedule is a bit murky....
[04-Jul-2007 20:51:28] <thedude42> is it that, you set the start day and start hour, and then set the duration for a window of time beginnign at the start time....
[04-Jul-2007 20:51:54] <thedude42> and then you choose the repeat to determin when exactly that window will be honored on subsequent days?
[04-Jul-2007 20:52:35] <creiht> thedude42: I haven't used that part yet
[04-Jul-2007 20:52:39] <creiht> So I'm not sure
[04-Jul-2007 20:52:50] <creiht> I unfortunately have to get pages 24hrs a day
[04-Jul-2007 20:54:13] <thedude42> well, i'll find out tomorrow then
[04-Jul-2007 20:54:30] <thedude42> i cleaned up the message format and the text message came though
[04-Jul-2007 20:55:16] <thedude42> i don't think it liked the URL's
[04-Jul-2007 20:57:15] <thedude42> have you ever noticed that if a host status goes down, ip services for the host still read as being up?
[04-Jul-2007 20:59:54] <creiht> host status?
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:40] <thedude42> right, like <device x> is down type of status
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:44] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:46] <creiht> hrmm
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:52] <creiht> I haven't seen that problem
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:59] <creiht> Though I haven't upgraded to 2.0 yet
[04-Jul-2007 21:01:09] <thedude42> i mean, it makes sense that a host being seen as completely down overrides any other monitoring
[04-Jul-2007 21:01:38] <thedude42> ah, well... this is my first take at zenoss, starting with 2.0
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:09] <thedude42> spent a whole week messing with the WMI components, and they aren't working at all
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:31] <creiht> I've heard that the WMI stuff can be a bit of a pain
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:34] <thedude42> bugs me that in the release notes it claims that they rely on samba 4 components
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:43] <creiht> There are a coupld of guys here that have done it succesfully
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:51] <creiht> I would check back tomorrow after the holidays
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:51] <thedude42> on 2.0?
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:53] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:05] <creiht> I remember them talking about it
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:16] <creiht> Unfortunately I don't remember who
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:29] <creiht> Though if you see cluther on, he can probably help
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:31] <thedude42> yeah, will have to do that.... as far as i know, you don't use a windows proxy for it anymore
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:53] <creiht> right
[04-Jul-2007 21:04:45] <thedude42> i saw something about winexe
[04-Jul-2007 21:05:13] <thedude42> but i'm not that familiar with python to go experimenting
[04-Jul-2007 21:05:55] <creiht> have you read this
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:02] <creiht> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/guide-to-setting-up-zenwin/
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:02] <thedude42> yup
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:28] <thedude42> that's still with a windows wmi proxy
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:34] <creiht> oh
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:35] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:44] <thedude42> took me 3 days to figure that out
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:49] <creiht> doh
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:55] <creiht> that stinks... sorry man
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:57] <thedude42> then another 3 days to reconcile that i wasn't going to get it to work
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:05] <creiht> Someone needs to clean that stuff up
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:27] <thedude42> eh, i can't complain, the package still does way more than i could ask for for free
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:44] <thedude42> without having to do a manual nagios configuration
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:59] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:05] <creiht> yeah it is a great product
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:13] <creiht> A couple of rough edges still
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:19] <creiht> but I expect for those to get better
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:46] <creiht> I've been using it since the first betas, and I have been surprised how quickly they have added new functionality
[04-Jul-2007 21:10:19] <thedude42> i assume they are working harder on getting a polished product than user documentation
[04-Jul-2007 21:10:30] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:12] <creiht> Documentation is always a tough thing
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:20] <creiht> No matter if you are open or closed soruce
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:28] <creiht> I do know that they know it is a problem
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:34] <creiht> And they want to work on it
[04-Jul-2007 21:12:06] <creiht> And it is probably one of the most commonly asked enhancements now
[04-Jul-2007 21:12:27] <thedude42> documentation?
[04-Jul-2007 21:12:32] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 21:14:56] <thedude42> are you getting my pm's?
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:08] <creiht> thedude42: no
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:13] <thedude42> bleh
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:16] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:17] <thedude42> not registered
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:19] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:34] <creiht> oh well
[04-Jul-2007 21:16:29] <thedude42> now i'm getting errors for the clear message...
[04-Jul-2007 21:16:34] <thedude42> wtf
[04-Jul-2007 21:19:17] <thedude42> ok, there we go
[04-Jul-2007 21:19:36] <thedude42> note for the future: 2.0 has a bad default message string for clear messages
[04-Jul-2007 21:19:59] <creiht> hehe... I had set my own anyways
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:11] <creiht> Which part causes problems?
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:48] <thedude42> not sure, i think it's the severity
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:54] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:56] <creiht> interesting
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:13] <thedude42> WARNING zen.ZenActions: SELECT clear.device,clear.message,clear.firstTime,clear.summary,clear.severity FROM history clear,
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:16] <creiht> If you can isolate the problem, I would recommend submitting a bug
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:34] <creiht> Or just submit a bug with that warning
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:49] <thedude42> i saw some stuff about it on google, i think it's a known issue
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[05-Jul-2007 00:12:15] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - It's Been a Long Time - 03 Jul, 09:04PM
[05-Jul-2007 00:12:16] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=139
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[05-Jul-2007 04:40:12] <jsegura> hi there
[05-Jul-2007 04:40:14] <jsegura> anyone alive?
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[05-Jul-2007 05:29:12] <Sz___> I'm trying to add a new performace graph. (for oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.16.2.1.3.1) I've made a new template, data source, datapoints and graph. What else do I have to do?
[05-Jul-2007 05:35:51] <Sz___> Binding it seems to be a good start
[05-Jul-2007 05:41:41] <Sz___> Restarted zenperfsnmp. Now I'm getting data in perf/
[05-Jul-2007 06:04:50] <Sz___> No, I'm getting rrd files with no data ion perf/
[05-Jul-2007 07:07:30] <jsegura> d
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[05-Jul-2007 07:08:03] <jsegura> anyone has played with zenhub or with remote mysql databases in 2.0.x ?
[05-Jul-2007 07:08:31] <jsegura> I'm trying to deploy a centralized monitoring system over my networks
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[05-Jul-2007 08:11:03] <aitayemi> hello
[05-Jul-2007 08:11:08] <aitayemi> anybody online?
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[05-Jul-2007 08:54:52] <Bulwinkle> aitayemi: I'm here
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[05-Jul-2007 10:58:22] <Bulwinkle> cluther: is there a package out for 2.0.1 for el5?
[05-Jul-2007 11:08:06] <jeisenberg> the one that is out will not work because it does not install the python libraries for zenwin.
[05-Jul-2007 11:08:25] <jeisenberg> (unless they fixed it)
[05-Jul-2007 11:18:41] <Bulwinkle> My ZenOSS install is hosed... it won't let me add new devices....
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[05-Jul-2007 11:38:25] <rodeoclown> When I create a new process to get monitored, for example I'm trying to monitor some bacula processes that start out like /usr/sbin/bacula-dir, after saving the new process, it makes the / into underscores, but the process counts never show up or get picked up, anything in particular I'm doing wrong?
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[05-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <jeisenberg> Bulwinkle - I got lucky as I backed up my original instance. Did anyone here answer you with a place to download the missing python libs?
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[05-Jul-2007 12:29:58] <MoreDakka> If I'm creating an rrd template where I create a graph that will show me all the cpus then an average as well would the cdef formula be " a,b,+,c,+,d,+,4,/ " ? It seems that it's off by about .5 of a %, not sure why
[05-Jul-2007 12:32:30] <rkagin> MoreDakka: It could be sampling rate - I read interesting things about RRDTool sampling every 4 minutes...
[05-Jul-2007 12:34:46] <MoreDakka> Hmm, possible. It's weird though, on the graph I have it showing all 4 cpus (example 7.71, 14.42, 9.71, 17.69 [avg-12.38]) RRD gives 10.86 as the avg... :-/
[05-Jul-2007 12:35:56] <MoreDakka> But you think that formula is correct?
[05-Jul-2007 12:38:04] <rkagin> MoreDakka: The formula follows the standard to my belief.
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[05-Jul-2007 12:44:39] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Try computing the sum and see if the formula returns the correct information.
[05-Jul-2007 12:45:01] <MoreDakka> ah, someone's thinking this morning ;-) good idea
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[05-Jul-2007 12:46:14] <weez> greetings, I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any patches floating around to allow LDAP authentication for zenoss 2.0? Thanks
[05-Jul-2007 12:46:23] <MoreDakka> Yeah the math is wrong.
[05-Jul-2007 12:47:10] <MoreDakka> RRD = 43.45 (7.81, 14.42, 9.72, 17.69), Calc = 49.64
[05-Jul-2007 12:47:40] <rkagin> Try putting out just the first value and see if they match.
[05-Jul-2007 12:48:27] <rkagin> weez: Did you check this out? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/
[05-Jul-2007 12:48:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-Jul-2007 12:49:17] <rkagin> weez: It is currently blocked by this ticket: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/1040 , so I don't think it will work until Zenoss 2.1.
[05-Jul-2007 12:49:24] <adytum-bot> Title: #1040 (Zenoss Cannot Authenticate Against LDAP Server) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[05-Jul-2007 12:51:37] <weez> rkagin: thanks, i saw that ticket. I was wondering if anyone had any unofficial patches or anything that needed testing/verification
[05-Jul-2007 12:52:29] <rkagin> weez: Sorry, can't say I do.
[05-Jul-2007 12:52:57] <weez> rkagin: well if my customer decides to pay me to investigate, I will let you know if i generate any
[05-Jul-2007 12:53:28] <weez> rkagin: dont think that will happen now, but there is still a small hope
[05-Jul-2007 12:53:35] <rkagin> weez: Fair enough.
[05-Jul-2007 12:56:48] <MoreDakka> rkagin: on a couple of the cpus RRD seems to be returning the MAX as the LAST value (I don't know much about RRD templates, just learning now)
[05-Jul-2007 12:57:54] <rkagin> MoreDakka: It's ok, I have been learning about it as well. What's the definition of the entire RRD report?
[05-Jul-2007 12:58:07] <rkagin> MoreDakka: The command executed for RRDTool, in fact.
[05-Jul-2007 12:58:35] <MoreDakka> You want the whole thing?
[05-Jul-2007 12:58:51] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Pastebin it if you like.
[05-Jul-2007 12:59:15] <MoreDakka> pastebin.org right?
[05-Jul-2007 12:59:50] <rkagin> pastebin.com, pastebin.ca, whatever you choose.
[05-Jul-2007 13:01:43] <MoreDakka> It's being slow today...just a min.
[05-Jul-2007 13:03:33] <MoreDakka> http://moredakka.pastebin.com/942584
[05-Jul-2007 13:04:07] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Maybe pastebin.ca is faster...
[05-Jul-2007 13:07:25] <MoreDakka> rkagin: are you able to access that?
[05-Jul-2007 13:07:46] <rkagin> MoreDakka: It's fine, I accessed it, yes; I'm thinking that lines 15-18 need to have different names that you decide to reference them to.
[05-Jul-2007 13:08:32] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Oh wait, they're different files, same attribute...
[05-Jul-2007 13:08:33] <MoreDakka> like cpu1-4?
[05-Jul-2007 13:09:18] <rkagin> MoreDakka: CPU0 through CPU4 - those values are all accurate, but the formula you output is incorrect?
[05-Jul-2007 13:10:09] <MoreDakka> The result of the formula is incorrect
[05-Jul-2007 13:10:41] <rkagin> MoreDakka: But the result of the lines for a,b,c,d are correct?
[05-Jul-2007 13:12:07] <MoreDakka> Nope, if I have 'cdef=a' or 'cdef=b' it will return the proper values, if I have 'cdef=c' or 'cdef=d' it seems to have the same values for LAST(current) and MAX
[05-Jul-2007 13:13:16] <rkagin> MoreDakka: For c and d, you have lines 33 and 37 respectively saying AVERAGE, not LAST.
[05-Jul-2007 13:14:48] <rkagin> MoreDakka: So your value of "current" may not be correct, and your formula correct after all.
[05-Jul-2007 13:15:55] <MoreDakka> true...I'm just doing a check right now.
[05-Jul-2007 13:18:21] <MoreDakka> Nope, math is still out.
[05-Jul-2007 13:19:49] <rkagin> MoreDakka: The values changed though?
[05-Jul-2007 13:21:10] <MoreDakka> On the current values, that one is now correct but the min and the max are not (the math doesn't work for the formula), back to square 1 with correct values in the current for cpus c and d.
[05-Jul-2007 13:21:54] <rkagin> MoreDakka: My debug strategy would be to have cdefa be just a, then just b, c, and d, and see if it outputs the right values (you did this already, right? and does it output correctly?).
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[05-Jul-2007 13:23:40] <dislo> hey guys i have been recieving an email for the last day on the minute and i need some help figuring out why
[05-Jul-2007 13:23:58] <rodeoclown> what command do you use to force the remodel immediately after adding processes instead of waiting for the default 6 hour remodel, the manual doesn't explain this for 1.1
[05-Jul-2007 13:24:47] <MoreDakka> When I first did that it wasn't returning the same values in the graph. (as you can see by the RRD Command I have all 4 CPUs then the formula to give the averages). I'll go through that again to make sure.
[05-Jul-2007 13:27:04] <MoreDakka> So all the values are being returned properly now. I'm going to try part of the formula and see what happens. (a,b,+,4,/ ....etc...etc...)
[05-Jul-2007 13:30:00] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Let me know what happens.
[05-Jul-2007 13:30:19] <MoreDakka> It's not doing the addition on MIN properly (5.17+2.26=7.43, RRD=9.06)
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[05-Jul-2007 13:31:07] <MoreDakka> same with MAX (17.80+18.65=36.45, RRD=35.31)
[05-Jul-2007 13:31:09] <rkagin> So cdefa=a,b,+ isn't working?
[05-Jul-2007 13:31:34] <MoreDakka> a,b,+ is working for LAST but not for MIN or MAX
[05-Jul-2007 13:32:38] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Maybe MIN/MAX are limited in that they don't take the MIN/MAX of each value and compute it; rather, it tries to take the MIN/MAX of the operation. Try defining a new CDEF using MIN(a), MIN(b), +, or whatever other syntax.
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[05-Jul-2007 13:45:15] <jb> to upgrade from 2.0 -> 2.0.1 via RPM, rpm -Uvh should do it, right?
[05-Jul-2007 13:58:21] <Bulwinkle> jb: yes
[05-Jul-2007 14:01:08] <MoreDakka> rkagin: I would have to have a cdef for each one if I was to try to do it that way... :-/
[05-Jul-2007 14:02:02] <rkagin> MoreDakka: To tell you the truth, I'm not sure. But possibly.
[05-Jul-2007 14:04:21] <MoreDakka> rkagin: bah :-/
[05-Jul-2007 14:04:36] <MoreDakka> time to go eat lunch anyways
[05-Jul-2007 14:09:06] <jb> hrm, zenwin/eventlog/winmondelor wont start now
[05-Jul-2007 14:09:55] <rkagin> MoreDakka: I do what I can.
[05-Jul-2007 14:10:51] <jb> zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 95: 23745 Segmentation fault $ZENHOME/bin/$cmd "$FUNC"
[05-Jul-2007 14:10:52] <jb> nice
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[05-Jul-2007 14:38:59] <The_Man> If anyones install 2.0.1, I've followed the directions, but keep getting an error about starting zedwin. No module named pythoncom No module named pywintypes
[05-Jul-2007 14:39:13] <The_Man> zenwin
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[05-Jul-2007 16:41:29] <|__rb__|> hello, need some help understand why I won't get notification when the httpd is down?
[05-Jul-2007 16:41:36] <|__rb__|> I've listed as the administrator
[05-Jul-2007 16:41:45] <MoreDakka> have you created another user?
[05-Jul-2007 16:41:59] <|__rb__|> yes
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:01] <MoreDakka> There needs to be at least one other user other than admin
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:05] <|__rb__|> I created a profile for myself
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:11] <|__rb__|> with my email and cell phone for sms
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:15] <MoreDakka> is the alerting rule under that user?
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:54] <|__rb__|> basically under: Mange: Administrators: and Role is Administrator
[05-Jul-2007 16:43:45] <MoreDakka> ur running 2.0 or higher right? I'm on v1.1.1 :-/ Might be a bit different.
[05-Jul-2007 16:44:16] <MoreDakka> In v1.1.1 there is a /Users folder, not sure if that's in 2.0
[05-Jul-2007 16:50:41] <|__rb__|> no it's 1.1
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:03] <MoreDakka> ah so you should have from dmd a /Users
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:06] <|__rb__|> I also clicked on the Test botton to see if the email works, and it's ok
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:25] <MoreDakka> so I'm assuming you created the user in the /Users folder?
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:42] <|__rb__|> yes
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:50] <|__rb__|> and when I click on test there it works.
[05-Jul-2007 16:52:38] <MoreDakka> Ok, then under that user you created an Alerting Rule (unique to each user)?
[05-Jul-2007 16:53:56] <|__rb__|> not sure about alerting rule
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:20] <|__rb__|> ah, nothing is setup there?
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:38] <|__rb__|> what's suppose to be in there
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:46] <MoreDakka> Well go under the user and you should have 4 tabs, Edit/Administered Objects, Event Views/Alerting rules (I'm assuming you found it, I'm just going to hit enter)
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:54] <MoreDakka> Put your alerting rule in there.
[05-Jul-2007 16:55:26] <MoreDakka> The default rule will alert you on anything error/critical including httpd down.
[05-Jul-2007 16:55:29] <|__rb__|> under Admin Objects it only shows the devices which i'mve configure to be admin as
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:03] <|__rb__|> but under Alerting Rules, there is nothing?
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:07] <MoreDakka> I haven't used the Administered Objects tab yet so I can't help you with that one (i'm the main admin/only admin here.
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:08] <MoreDakka> )
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[05-Jul-2007 16:56:22] <MoreDakka> Yeah, you'll have to create your alerts under there.
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:46] <|__rb__|> I just see a input colume and Add/Delete/Select All
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:50] <|__rb__|> what would I be adding?
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:50] <MoreDakka> If you created it under the Preferences option (in the top right) that doesn't seem to do anything.
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:59] <MoreDakka> Click on Add and you'll add a new rule
[05-Jul-2007 16:57:18] <MoreDakka> to alert you when things go down
[05-Jul-2007 16:57:28] <|__rb__|> what should I type in the box, prior to clicking on Add
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:06] <MoreDakka> Whatever you want the name to be. You can start out with "Test Rule" or something like that
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:14] <|__rb__|> oh I see
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:21] <|__rb__|> this makes more sense now
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:28] <MoreDakka> It sorta makes sense.
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:46] <|__rb__|> AH! getting the alert now
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:47] <MoreDakka> I don't understand why when you create a rule under the admin preferences that nothing gets alerted to that rule....I dunno.
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:50] <MoreDakka> hehe
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:52] <MoreDakka> yay
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:53] <|__rb__|> kewl, thank you
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:56] <MoreDakka> So with your sms messages
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:08] <MoreDakka> don't use the paging option, send it to your email address of your phone.
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:15] <MoreDakka> I find that the paging option doesn't work.
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:16] <|__rb__|> ok
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:17] <MoreDakka> with sms
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:24] <MoreDakka> Glad I could help ;-)
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:25] <|__rb__|> kewl, I'll try that
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:30] <|__rb__|> thanks again
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:33] <MoreDakka> np
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:44] <|__rb__|> I"m usually use to working with Nagios
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:56] <|__rb__|> but this seems to be a really good monitoring tool as well
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:21] <MoreDakka> Yeah we went from Nagios to Zenoss as well.
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:37] <MoreDakka> If you are just getting into it I would recommend getting v2.1 and ditch v1.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:45] <MoreDakka> Lots of improvements in 2.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:51] <|__rb__|> that's what I hear,
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:07] <MoreDakka> I just fear the worst when it comes to upgrading.
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:08] <|__rb__|> unfortunelty I've already rolled out 1.x, but, I'm sure the upgrade will be fun
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:13] <MoreDakka> hehe
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:20] <|__rb__|> yep, me too
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:27] <|__rb__|> I upgraded without reading the upgrade docs
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:43] <|__rb__|> and it broke, thank god I was able uninstall 2.0 and put 1.0 back and it worked again
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:00] <bzed> MoreDakka: you mean 2.0.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:08] <MoreDakka> So we are sticking with v1.1.1 until they get the calculations for rrds in...need that for cpu usage on multiple cpu systems
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:12] <MoreDakka> Uhh...
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:14] <MoreDakka> sure ;-)
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:16] <MoreDakka> 2.0.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:20] <MoreDakka> that's what I said
[05-Jul-2007 17:04:28] <MoreDakka> thought I saw someone in here talking about their upgrade to 2.1....they must have been mistaken or I'm just missing letters while I'm reading stuff.
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:26] <|__rb__|> How can I configure for all routers to have the same alerting user without going into every single one individually?
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:36] <|__rb__|> basically do a mass configuration for alerting?
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:49] <MoreDakka> How many users are you creating?
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:49] <bzed> MoreDakka: 2.0.1 came out yesterady I think, so I guess it was a mistake
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:58] <MoreDakka> Ah, my mistake then.
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:59] <|__rb__|> just one user, with multiple address
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:21] <|__rb__|> but instead of going into ever router to setup the user, just wanna do all the routers
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:35] <MoreDakka> You shouldn't have to set it up in any router.
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:50] <MoreDakka> So one user to get all the alerts right?
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:54] <MoreDakka> for all your devices?
[05-Jul-2007 17:07:29] <|__rb__|> not for all the devices, I want our networking guy to get the alerts for all the routers
[05-Jul-2007 17:09:28] <MoreDakka> Hmmm.....since I just have all the alerts going to one or two users I haven't filtered like that yet. I'm assuming that you could put all the routers into a systems group called routers and in the alerting rule set the Systems is /routers
[05-Jul-2007 17:09:44] <MoreDakka> then he will only get the alerts from the devices that are in the /routers systems group.
[05-Jul-2007 17:11:09] <|__rb__|> kewl, I''ll try that
[05-Jul-2007 17:12:33] <MoreDakka> I'm certain there is a better way to do it with the adminitered objects but I don't know how to do that.
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[05-Jul-2007 17:28:59] <dislo> hey guys i have been recieving an email for the last day on the minute and i need some help figuring out why
[05-Jul-2007 17:29:22] <MoreDakka> What's the email?
[05-Jul-2007 17:30:44] <dislo> MoreDakka, it says that one of my routers is up and that it is clearing something but my routers status hasnt changed
[05-Jul-2007 17:31:12] <MoreDakka> is it an snmp trap?
[05-Jul-2007 17:31:33] <dislo> i dont think so
[05-Jul-2007 17:31:51] <MoreDakka> Do you have the events in zenoss as well?
[05-Jul-2007 17:32:47] <dislo> no there is no corresponding event
[05-Jul-2007 17:34:08] <MoreDakka> I'm in v1.1.1 so if you are in v2.0.x then it might be different. have you looked under the log of zenactions?
[05-Jul-2007 17:34:45] <dislo> nope i havent and yes i am in 2.0.0 i think
[05-Jul-2007 17:35:26] <MoreDakka> Check those logs, it should show you that zenoss is emailing alerts to you every minute. if there is nothing being checked then check your mail server to make sure that message isn't endlessly stuck.
[05-Jul-2007 17:36:19] <dislo> ok
[05-Jul-2007 17:36:33] <dislo> where is the zen action log
[05-Jul-2007 17:37:23] <MoreDakka> (this is in v1.1.1) on the left side click about, then you will see zenactions and to the right of it will show a link to a log file, click on that and scroll to the bottom (bottom is the newest)
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:06] <dislo> this is all it says
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:07] <dislo> 2007-07-05 14:35:51 INFO zen.ZenActions: processed 1 rules in 0.94 secs
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:07] <dislo> 2007-07-05 14:36:51 INFO zen.ZenActions: Processed 0 commands in 0.001200
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:07] <dislo> 2007-07-05 14:36:52 INFO zen.ZenActions: sent email:[zenoss] CLEAR: crouter crouter ip 192.168.2.253 is up to:npappin@latahfcu.org
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:39] <dislo> however it shouldnt be tripping any rules right now
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:41] <MoreDakka> check the history on that router and see what is going on.
[05-Jul-2007 17:41:12] <dislo> it says it isnt pinging and then a minute later it says it is
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[05-Jul-2007 17:42:44] <MoreDakka> says it isn't pinging or failed? if you open a command prompt can you ' ping <router ip> -t ' and see if it drops any packets?
[05-Jul-2007 17:44:15] <dislo> they have all been returned in right about 30 ms
[05-Jul-2007 17:46:02] <MoreDakka> How about if you ssh into the zenoss box and ping it from there?
[05-Jul-2007 17:47:16] <dislo> that is where it is going from
[05-Jul-2007 17:48:10] <MoreDakka> ah....what does it show in the zenping logs?
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:07] <dislo> cteller is down
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:32] <MoreDakka> Do you ever get a DOWN email or just the CLEAR emails?
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:41] <dislo> just clear
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:48] <MoreDakka> strange....
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:58] <dislo> no downs i havent seen one in the two days it has been doing it
[05-Jul-2007 17:51:50] <dislo> the other odd thing is i have a production state named Production-no_warn for stuff that i dont really care about or is acting up and the router is in there but i keep on getting emails it should be below the warning level
[05-Jul-2007 17:52:50] <MoreDakka> You could try to restart the zenping and/or zenactions process to see if that will fix it.
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[05-Jul-2007 18:04:16] <dislo> ok i just reset all of zenoss
[05-Jul-2007 18:04:39] <MoreDakka> any change?
[05-Jul-2007 18:11:19] <dislo> doesnt look like it
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[05-Jul-2007 18:11:31] <MoreDakka> sam problem huh?
[05-Jul-2007 18:11:37] <MoreDakka> I have no idea then, sorry
[05-Jul-2007 18:11:41] <dislo> yeah here is a change
[05-Jul-2007 18:17:22] <dislo> now i am recieving five of them every minute
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:21] <creiht> dislo: I've done something similar
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:38] <creiht> But what I did whas create different groups
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:48] <creiht> And created alerting rules based off the groups
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:55] <creiht> So for example I have a Production group
[05-Jul-2007 18:19:07] <creiht> So that I only get alerts if the server is in the Production group
[05-Jul-2007 18:20:16] <dislo> yeah that was kind of my thought i didnt wan to put them all on one group because i dont want a text message when someone goes home for the day and shuts off their computer
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[06-Jul-2007 08:20:50] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Are you around?
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:02] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm here....
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:09] <Bulwinkle> did you ever get to my box?
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: No, I got wrapped up in a pile of work yesterday. Sorry about that.
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:35] <Bulwinkle> np
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[06-Jul-2007 10:28:13] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle, did you get the job?
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[06-Jul-2007 10:40:26] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: haven't heard anythin back
[06-Jul-2007 10:40:40] <MoreDakka> bah
[06-Jul-2007 10:40:43] <MoreDakka> those slackers
[06-Jul-2007 10:40:46] <MoreDakka> ;-)
[06-Jul-2007 10:43:30] <cluther> You can't slack and read resumes at the same time. It's a predicament.
[06-Jul-2007 10:44:42] <MoreDakka> Well you almost can. If you are by a pool drinking a nice cold drink reading resumes that can be considered as a form of slacking.
[06-Jul-2007 10:45:52] <MoreDakka> While I have your attention, can you take a look at http://moredakka.pastebin.com/942584 and tell me why the math is off for Min and Max on the Mean?
[06-Jul-2007 10:46:03] <adytum-bot> Title: moredakka private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at moredakka.pastebin.com)
[06-Jul-2007 10:47:46] <MoreDakka> srry, updated one - http://moredakka.pastebin.com/943183
[06-Jul-2007 10:47:58] <adytum-bot> Title: moredakka private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at moredakka.pastebin.com)
[06-Jul-2007 10:50:38] <cluther> At a glance that looks good to me. How is the mean off?
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[06-Jul-2007 10:57:56] <MoreDakka> the cdef doesn't seem to be doing the math correctly. I checked to make sure it's polling the same numbers (eg cdef=a CPU1 is a) and it's polling the correct #s but when I try to throw math in there it screws up. (eg CPU0=57.52, CPU1=78.78, CPU2=65.56, CPU3=89.85 |CPU Mean=64.67. Calc=72.9275)
[06-Jul-2007 11:09:23] <MoreDakka> I know it's in Cacti, but I think I remember you saying that we can get Zenoss to do this in a later version right?
[06-Jul-2007 11:32:03] <cluther> MoreDakka: This looks like a consolidation issue. You're only printing the MIN/MAX/LAST values. The only way the mean maximum would match the average of the 4 maximums is if all 4 CPUs hit their maximum at the same time.
[06-Jul-2007 11:32:23] <cluther> MoreDakka: Does that make sense?
[06-Jul-2007 11:36:49] <MoreDakka> Oh I see, because snmp probably isn't polling the same information at the same time it might be working with an old number. Is that what you mean?
[06-Jul-2007 12:27:02] <cluther> MoreDakka: I don't think so.. let me see if I can explain what I mean.
[06-Jul-2007 12:27:30] <cluther> MoreDakka: Here's the scenario. During polling cycle 1, cpu1 is at 90% and cpu2 is at 20%
[06-Jul-2007 12:28:15] <cluther> MoreDakka: During polling cycle 2, cpu1 is at 50% and cpu2 is at 80%.
[06-Jul-2007 12:28:36] <cluther> MoreDakka: The MAX of cpu1 is 90%, and the MAX of cpu2 is 80%.
[06-Jul-2007 12:30:28] <cluther> MoreDakka: When these data points get consolidated, the mean MAX of their AVERAGE becomes 60%
[06-Jul-2007 12:31:30] <cluther> MoreDakka: I think the solution would be to derive your mean MAX/MIN from the specific MIN/MAX consolidation functions of the real data point instead of the AVERAGE consolidation.
[06-Jul-2007 12:36:28] <MoreDakka> Hmmm....alright I sorta get it. I don't have a way to change that information in cacti. Can I create custom graphs like that in zenoss?
[06-Jul-2007 12:41:44] <cluther> Yeah.. you could use VDEFs to get data points when whatever consolidation function you wanted.
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[06-Jul-2007 12:58:54] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to read if vdefs can so math, doesn't look like it, or am I blind?
[06-Jul-2007 12:59:05] <MoreDakka> (ps - thnx for your help on this one)
[06-Jul-2007 12:59:31] <cluther> MoreDakka: No math.. you can use VDEFs within CDEFs though.
[06-Jul-2007 12:59:44] <MoreDakka> Ahhhh, that's cool.
[06-Jul-2007 13:00:08] <cluther> Making it possible to create RRD graphs that blow your own mind. =}
[06-Jul-2007 13:00:31] <MoreDakka> so it would be something like cdef=a,b,c,d,+,+,+,4,/ .....ehhh, thought i could think of how to do it but I dunno.
[06-Jul-2007 13:00:58] <MoreDakka> blow my mind hey? Like graphs that jump outta the screen...woh, need 3d glasses to see them properly ;-)
[06-Jul-2007 13:01:04] <cluther> heh..
[06-Jul-2007 13:01:22] <cluther> I was referring to the code, not the result.
[06-Jul-2007 13:01:50] <MoreDakka> oh...haha
[06-Jul-2007 13:04:12] <MoreDakka> Do you have an example on a vdef within cdef would look like?
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[06-Jul-2007 13:09:58] <cluther> hmm.. something like this I think.
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:00] <cluther> DEF:ds0=filename.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> DEF:ds1=filename.rrd:ds1:AVERAGE
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> VDEF:ds0max=ds0,MAXIMUM
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> VDEF:ds1max=ds1,MAXIMUM
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> CDEF:avgAvg=ds0,ds1,+,2,/
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:02] <cluther> CDEF:avgMax=ds0max,ds1max,+,2,/
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:35] <cluther> I really hate saying things like "average average" or "average maximum" but so is life..
[06-Jul-2007 13:11:23] <MoreDakka> Oh so it's not within the same line of the cdef formula but within the same RRD Command right?
[06-Jul-2007 13:11:54] <cluther> right, you just need to define them before you use them.
[06-Jul-2007 13:13:04] <cluther> MoreDakka: I need to drop offline for a bit.
[06-Jul-2007 13:13:18] <MoreDakka> ah right....ok, Hey, thanks for the help today :-D
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[06-Jul-2007 13:44:01] <dubie> what is the uprade process from 2.0.0 ro 2.0.2? I have FC6
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[06-Jul-2007 13:54:50] <dubie> I have FC6 with zenoss version 2.0.0. I would like to upgrade to 2.0.2 and have not been able to find and upgrade proceduce document... how do I do an upgrade?
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[06-Jul-2007 13:58:01] <Brixius> Hello, I have a question, (I'll admit I'm new to zenoss) I'm testing zenoss using the virtual appliance, and I see there was an update to fix some wmi issues, I'd like to update the virtual appliance I'm running with the 2.0.2 version but can't seem to find any instructions.
[06-Jul-2007 13:58:36] <Brixius> My question is "Are there any instructions for patching the virtual appliance with the latest version of zenoss?"
[06-Jul-2007 13:58:53] <bzed> Brixius, dubie: you both want to poke cluther
[06-Jul-2007 13:59:43] <Brixius> Oh, so I'm not the first to ask this question I take it.
[06-Jul-2007 14:00:54] <dubie> hrm
[06-Jul-2007 14:00:59] <dubie> poke?
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:07] <dubie> as opposed to slap?
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:12] <MoreDakka> cluther is gone for awhile he said
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:17] <bzed> dubie: poke is the nice variant
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:30] <MoreDakka> [11:13] <cluther> MoreDakka: I need to drop offline for a bit
[06-Jul-2007 14:16:25] <b52laptop> zenoss is based on z3 ?
[06-Jul-2007 14:17:01] <b52laptop> did know that they migrate to z3 , hm
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:15] <bzed> b52laptop: no, zope 2.9
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:17] <bzed> err
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:18] <bzed> 2.8
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:24] <bzed> the dbeian package will be based on 2.9
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:34] <b52laptop> bzed, http://www.gadoz.com/news/zenoss-support
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:07] <bzed> lol
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:27] <b52laptop> itype zenoss + zope 3 on google the first result is this site
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:45] <b52laptop> bzed, yay the fols are offering support on zenoss , ..... :d
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:55] <bzed> no wonder, they're probably the only peopel on earth tellign this weird shit
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:02] <bzed> although zenoss uses Five
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:11] <b52laptop> hm
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:17] <bzed> the compatibility product which brings zope3 features to zope 2
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:33] <bzed> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/inst/externallibs << scroll down if you don;t believe me
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:33] <adytum-bot> Title: /trunk/inst/externallibs - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:41] <b52laptop> i believe you
[06-Jul-2007 14:23:20] <b52laptop> hm
[06-Jul-2007 14:25:44] <b52laptop> see you
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[06-Jul-2007 16:14:43] <Brixius> Are there any instructions for patching the virtual appliance with the latest version of zenoss(2.0.2)?
[06-Jul-2007 16:17:18] <creiht> Brixius: It is a virtual server, so you should be able to do it the same way you would a normal server
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[06-Jul-2007 16:58:20] <tristanbob> I really wish you had a bulk-discovery tool in the GUI - is one planned?
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[06-Jul-2007 17:05:13] <cluther_> tristanbob: You can discover networks from the GUI in 2.0.
[06-Jul-2007 17:05:54] <tristanbob> cluther: I have 2.0 VMware image, don't see it
[06-Jul-2007 17:06:06] <tristanbob> device name, do I put the network in?
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[06-Jul-2007 17:06:44] <cluther_> tristanbob: Go to the Networks view. Add a network if you need to. You'll then be able to select that Network and discover it.
[06-Jul-2007 17:07:04] <tristanbob> cluther: I'll give it a shot... thanks!
[06-Jul-2007 17:07:41] <thedude42> any of the folks who have been able to successfully get WMI working on 2.0 around?
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[06-Jul-2007 17:09:14] <cluther_> thedude42: Yes.
[06-Jul-2007 17:10:55] <thedude42> ok, i suppose my first question is whether I am to expect the zenwin, zeneventlog and zenwmimodeler daemons to not start, and throw python errors aluding to missing pywin32 components
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[06-Jul-2007 17:11:04] <thedude42> with a default installation, that is
[06-Jul-2007 17:11:19] <cluther_> thedude42: Unfortunately if you have 2.0.1, you should expect that.
[06-Jul-2007 17:11:27] <cluther_> thedude42: 2.0.2 resolves that problem.
[06-Jul-2007 17:12:10] <thedude42> i installed from source last week, is there a build-to-version table where i can check that?
[06-Jul-2007 17:13:00] <thedude42> eh, take that back... this says 2.0.0 r5824
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[06-Jul-2007 17:24:38] <thedude42> am i understanding this correctly, build 5862 starts 2.0.2?
[06-Jul-2007 17:41:43] <thedude42> so like, does the root@localhost password need to remain blank for zenoss to function properly, or just during install?
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[06-Jul-2007 19:15:39] <explody> does zenoss support fine-grained alerting rules yet? (i.e. "alert me weekdays 9-5 only")
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[06-Jul-2007 19:40:27] <thedude42> i've got it doing that
[06-Jul-2007 19:45:47] <explody> using tricks or native featires?
[06-Jul-2007 19:45:51] <explody> features*
[06-Jul-2007 19:45:53] <thedude42> native
[06-Jul-2007 19:46:18] <thedude42> the biggest pain was figuring out that on my 2.0 installationt he admin user alerts did nothing
[06-Jul-2007 19:46:32] <thedude42> so i created an additional user to set up the alerts
[06-Jul-2007 19:47:23] <thedude42> basically, create an alert rule, set those basic conditions for the alert, then create a schedule
[06-Jul-2007 19:48:04] <thedude42> under start, it will enter today's date by default, and that's fine, just set the hour of the day you want the alerting to start
[06-Jul-2007 19:48:26] <thedude42> set the duration of the alert, so for 9-5 put in 0 days 8 hours 0 minutes
[06-Jul-2007 19:48:33] <thedude42> set repeat to daily
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[06-Jul-2007 19:51:16] <dislo> hey guys i am getting five emails a minute and in my event summary i keep on getting these things that say wmi error talking to whatever device
[06-Jul-2007 19:51:37] <thedude42> is it from a windows device?
[06-Jul-2007 19:51:45] <dislo> thedude42,
[06-Jul-2007 19:51:48] <dislo> thedude42, yes
[06-Jul-2007 19:52:22] <thedude42> have you gone through the machine and checked all the WMI related stuff?
[06-Jul-2007 19:53:46] <dislo> yeah what is that and how do i check it
[06-Jul-2007 19:54:54] <thedude42> there's some stuff on one of the wmi guides for configuring the clients
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:10] <thedude42> just ignore the thing about setting up pywin configs
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:30] <dislo> ok where are the guides
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:35] <explody> thedude42: interesting, I might have to try it out again
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:54] <thedude42> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/guide-to-setting-up-zenwin/
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:54] <thedude42> that's what i used
[06-Jul-2007 19:56:13] <thedude42> took some trial and error because it's not entirely descriptive about where you're configuring pywin32 and where you're doing windows specific stuff
[06-Jul-2007 19:56:47] <thedude42> my graphs are actually working now
[06-Jul-2007 19:56:53] <dislo> just ignore the pywin stuff right
[06-Jul-2007 19:57:15] <thedude42> right, if you have 2.0.2 installed and the windows related daemons are running
[06-Jul-2007 19:57:51] <thedude42> now i need to figure out how to get zenoss to stop trying to make wmi queries to my linux machines
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:05] <thedude42> and network devices
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:25] <dislo> well i was just about to ask is there a way to just turn wmi off
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:30] <thedude42> ah ha
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:54] <thedude42> yeah, i'm about to discover how i think
[06-Jul-2007 19:59:05] <dislo> cool cool
[06-Jul-2007 20:00:14] <thedude42> ok, in 5 minutes i'll have an answer
[06-Jul-2007 20:00:41] <thedude42> hm, sooner... that didn't work
[06-Jul-2007 20:01:48] <thedude42> well, it kinda worked
[06-Jul-2007 20:03:23] <thedude42> maybe it did work and i didn't wait long enough....
[06-Jul-2007 20:03:49] <thedude42> ok, i'm basically thinking that zproperties is where it's at
[06-Jul-2007 20:03:59] <thedude42> dislo, have you looked there yet?
[06-Jul-2007 20:07:53] <dislo> yeah i have and i think i have it set up not to check
[06-Jul-2007 20:07:58] <dislo> however i am not sure
[06-Jul-2007 20:08:17] <thedude42> well, have you dropped devices in to groups of any kind?
[06-Jul-2007 20:10:25] <dislo> what do you mean like location or groups or something like that
[06-Jul-2007 20:10:39] <thedude42> right, or type of device
[06-Jul-2007 20:15:55] <thedude42> well, i got the linux servers devices to stop getting polled for WMI
[06-Jul-2007 20:16:07] <dislo> how did you do that
[06-Jul-2007 20:16:36] <thedude42> went to /servers/linux and set wmiignore to true
[06-Jul-2007 20:16:54] <thedude42> deleted the local settings i had changed on each device as well
[06-Jul-2007 20:34:15] <dislo> ok well i tried that but i am still not having any luck
[06-Jul-2007 20:35:17] <dislo> well all of the emails are saying that it is clear but i never get any that say it is down or something like that
[06-Jul-2007 20:37:06] <thedude42> yup
[06-Jul-2007 20:38:52] <thedude42> don't forget to refresh the event schema
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[06-Jul-2007 20:52:05] <dislo> how do i refresh my event schema
[06-Jul-2007 20:52:28] <thedude42> go to event manager at the bottom of the left column menu
[06-Jul-2007 20:52:50] <thedude42> the main click menu there
[06-Jul-2007 20:52:59] <thedude42> next to edit
[06-Jul-2007 20:53:25] <thedude42> mine finally stopped
[06-Jul-2007 20:57:31] <dislo> alright well we will find out what happens
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[06-Jul-2007 21:00:41] <thedude42> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired.
[06-Jul-2007 21:00:46] <thedude42> this is killing me
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[07-Jul-2007 10:22:41] <Lascaille> anyone about?
[07-Jul-2007 10:24:30] <Lascaille> I am trying to find out how to graph a calculated snmp value
[07-Jul-2007 10:24:52] <Lascaille> like, memory used minus buffers minus cached
[07-Jul-2007 10:25:29] <Lascaille> so I want to retrieve the three OIDS and then perform a calculation on them... then graph that
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:00] <Lascaille> god, or
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:05] <Lascaille> where are the tables kept on the filesystem?
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:16] <Lascaille> as I've managed to put a degree symbol in a RRD template and it's killed the whole template
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:28] <Lascaille> templates kept eve
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:29] <Lascaille> n
[07-Jul-2007 10:59:10] <knutin> usually in the rra subdir of your cacti installation
[07-Jul-2007 10:59:17] <knutin> if you haven't changed it
[07-Jul-2007 11:00:23] <Lascaille> hmm
[07-Jul-2007 11:00:34] <Lascaille> now where would that be? I just did standard install from source, centos
[07-Jul-2007 11:00:49] <Lascaille> I am digging through /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Jul-2007 11:02:35] <knutin> oh, sorry
[07-Jul-2007 11:02:40] <knutin> I thought I was in the cacti channel
[07-Jul-2007 11:02:41] <knutin>
[07-Jul-2007 11:03:25] <Lascaille> hmm this is arse
[07-Jul-2007 11:03:34] <Lascaille> I knew that degree symbol was gonna cause trouble
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[07-Jul-2007 12:01:35] <Lascaille> anyone know where the device templates are stored?
[07-Jul-2007 12:17:29] <thedude42> good question... haven't looked but i have a mind to
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[07-Jul-2007 12:56:51] <Lascaille> well I think they're not
[07-Jul-2007 12:56:55] <Lascaille> I can't find them
[07-Jul-2007 12:57:03] <Lascaille> and it's a pain as I need to delete one
[07-Jul-2007 12:59:34] <thedude42> well, i highly doubt they are generated magically
[07-Jul-2007 12:59:48] <Lascaille> sure
[07-Jul-2007 12:59:54] <Lascaille> but I don't think they're files
[07-Jul-2007 13:00:18] <thedude42> yeah, good point... might be a table in mysql
[07-Jul-2007 13:09:28] <Lascaille> not in the events database
[07-Jul-2007 13:09:34] <Lascaille> got no idea myself
[07-Jul-2007 13:09:49] <thedude42> hm
[07-Jul-2007 13:10:09] <thedude42> wonder if it's in nagios
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[07-Jul-2007 15:15:57] <cluther> thedude42:
[07-Jul-2007 15:16:06] <cluther> thedude42: Still around? Wonder if what is in Nagios?
[07-Jul-2007 15:29:56] <bzed> cluther: they were wondering where the device templates are stored
[07-Jul-2007 15:33:35] <cluther> ah.. the ZEODB.
[07-Jul-2007 15:34:07] <cluther> If you add them to a ZenPack they get exported into the ZenPack's objects.xml file.
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[07-Jul-2007 16:17:20] <Lascaille> anyone about?
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[07-Jul-2007 18:25:11] <Lascaille> yo
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[08-Jul-2007 00:57:44] <|den|> hi all
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[08-Jul-2007 06:12:53] <|den|> hi, does anybody install v 2.0.2? I have same problems there
[08-Jul-2007 06:13:12] <|den|> *some problems
[08-Jul-2007 06:28:47] <|den|> hello .... is anybody here?
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[08-Jul-2007 08:46:47] <Lascaille> anyone here?
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[08-Jul-2007 10:32:07] <Mohan> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2641&sid=e347382436dec969c83d0dd28e65cdb4
[08-Jul-2007 10:32:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problems with 2.0.2, starting daemons... (at community.zenoss.com)
[08-Jul-2007 10:32:39] <Mohan> anybody having problems with starting all the daemons in 2.0.1 or 2.0.2?
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[09-Jul-2007 06:33:39] <aspid> hi
[09-Jul-2007 06:34:21] <aspid> i need help with mib import to zenoss in fedora core
[09-Jul-2007 06:34:35] <aspid> can someone help me?
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[09-Jul-2007 07:29:58] <iscream> hy all
[09-Jul-2007 07:30:12] <iscream> can sbody help me pls?
[09-Jul-2007 07:30:50] <iscream> hy
[09-Jul-2007 07:37:05] <bzed> chances for that rise if you ask a proper question in PROPER english.
[09-Jul-2007 07:39:43] <iscream> ok
[09-Jul-2007 07:39:47] <iscream> thank u
[09-Jul-2007 07:40:02] <iscream> so i would like to monitor some filesystem with zenoss core
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:05] <iscream> i added a device, a windows xp Pc and some info-s are there at the right place
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:31] <iscream> and some arent there anywher for example disk usage and %
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:38] <iscream> i googled all the time
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:47] <iscream> and tried out the solutions but nothing helped me
[09-Jul-2007 07:42:42] <iscream> how could i fix it?:S
[09-Jul-2007 07:43:46] <bzed> uh windows. not using that since at least 10 years. but you could wait for cluther to come in the chat again, he should be able to tell you
[09-Jul-2007 07:44:15] <iscream> and the second question have you an example howto create an alert when a hard disk usage is up to 90%? with thresholds? i have the threshold, and how to add to an event or an alert?
[09-Jul-2007 07:44:48] <iscream> cluther? thank you - i hate windows too, but my boss.... you know...
[09-Jul-2007 07:44:59] <bzed> that's mentioned in the admin guide you wanna read that
[09-Jul-2007 07:45:10] <bzed> at least you need a non-admin user to setup alerts
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[09-Jul-2007 07:46:19] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 07:46:20] <iscream> i see
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[09-Jul-2007 07:48:46] <iscream> i use vmware and i downloaded the zenoss-2.0.0-x86.vmware appliance, i guess it isnt any problem:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:48:54] <iscream> it hase an rpath linux on it i guess
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[09-Jul-2007 07:50:27] <iscream> bzed : can you tell me the procedure step-by-step for monitoring...?:P for example, first i make threshold, after thet event and after theese the alert, or how?
[09-Jul-2007 07:50:29] <iscream> hy cluther
[09-Jul-2007 07:50:42] <iscream> cluther : i would have a question for you too, if you dont mind
[09-Jul-2007 07:51:21] <cluther> iscream: I don't. What's up?
[09-Jul-2007 07:51:53] <iscream> i added a device to my zenoss, a windows xp Pc and some info-s are there at the right place
[09-Jul-2007 07:52:02] <iscream> for example the filesystem info-s
[09-Jul-2007 07:52:11] <iscream> and i havent got any perf. graph:S
[09-Jul-2007 07:53:01] <iscream> i added localhost, to test the zenoss, and in the 'localhost' case its ok, i have graphs and everything
[09-Jul-2007 07:53:58] <cluther> iscream: By default Windows systems need the SNMP Informant MIB extension installed to get graphs. (http://www.snmp-informant.com/)
[09-Jul-2007 07:53:58] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[09-Jul-2007 07:54:02] <iscream> yeah ,i got it
[09-Jul-2007 07:54:39] <iscream> after i installed it to the xp pc, there was the list of the programs on it and so on
[09-Jul-2007 07:54:42] <cluther> Is you Windows device in the /Server/Windows device class?
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:11] <iscream> but in the OS tab the disk usage% and free memory or free space is unknown and my hardware processor too
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:16] <iscream> yes
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:30] <cluther> How long ago did you add the device?
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:30] <iscream> first it was in the ping class, after that i changed it
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:37] <iscream> about 2hours
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:50] <iscream> i read about it takes about 30-35minutes to have a graph
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:56] <iscream> or restart zenoss processes
[09-Jul-2007 07:56:46] <iscream> nt Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[09-Jul-2007 07:56:47] <iscream> C:\ Label: Serial Number f04c4e97 74.5GB unknown unknown unknown
[09-Jul-2007 07:56:50] <iscream> i have this
[09-Jul-2007 07:57:16] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 07:57:36] <iscream> the graphs appeared:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:57:52] <cluther> Good. =}
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:08] <iscream> ooo you are my man:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:15] <bzed> iscream: cluther IS the man
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:16] <bzed>
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:17] <cluther> It wouldn't have started collecting the graph data points until you moved it into the right class.
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[09-Jul-2007 07:58:22] <iscream> and you too bzed:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:24] <cluther> hah.. I didn't do anything.
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:31] <iscream> so
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:45] <iscream> my last (but i guess the longest) question
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:46] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:57] <bzed> cluther: wait tuntil I've fixed a bunch of patches, then I'll bug you
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:58] <iscream> are you prepaired?:)
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:11] <cluther> As I'll ever be.
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:30] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:40] <iscream> i have the graphs
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:46] <iscream> but its still nt Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:46] <iscream> C:\ Label: Serial Number f04c4e97 74.5GB unknown unknown unknown
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:49] <iscream> in the os tab
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:59] <iscream> will it be changing? whats your guess?
[09-Jul-2007 08:00:27] <cluther> It'll be populated. Be patient.
[09-Jul-2007 08:00:32] <iscream> okay
[09-Jul-2007 08:00:33] <iscream> so
[09-Jul-2007 08:01:23] <iscream> i havent used zenoss or any of the monitoring systems, but my new boss told me i have to do some things
[09-Jul-2007 08:01:26] <iscream> for example
[09-Jul-2007 08:02:09] <iscream> if in the network some PC-s/Server/ect -s connection is lost, then raise an alert, or email or something
[09-Jul-2007 08:02:33] <iscream> how can i do it?
[09-Jul-2007 08:03:18] <cluther> That would be the alerting rules. Chapter 15 of the Admin Guide.
[09-Jul-2007 08:03:27] <iscream> very nice:)
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:11] <cluther> Something that the admin guide doesn't mention..
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:21] <iscream> and i lost the line in the guide when it explains me about Monitoring A File System and Changing a Threshold
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:26] <cluther> Don't add alerting rules to the standard "admin" user. They won't do anything. Create real users first.
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:52] <iscream> so
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:59] <iscream> i log in as a zenoss user
[09-Jul-2007 08:05:02] <iscream> and then i make alerts?
[09-Jul-2007 08:05:45] <cluther> Typically you would create yourself a user account and assign it the Manager role since you are the Zenoss admin.
[09-Jul-2007 08:05:57] <iscream> yes i have done it
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:05] <cluther> Then you can click on your "Preferences" up in the top right.. go to the Alerting Rules tab.. etc.
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:16] <iscream> but i thought its egal if i am a manager role user or an admin
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:45] <iscream> ok, i got it
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:47] <cluther> alerting rules work for all users no matter what their role. The only exception is the special "admin" user using only that name.
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:58] <iscream> and there can i add filters, am i right?
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:02] <cluther> That's right.
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:24] <iscream> the next question will be very silly i guess:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:40] <iscream> but i cannot find example filter usage filter:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:53] <bzed> cluther: wanna fix somethign on the fly? ZenModel/zenbuild.py has a redundant check for ZENHOME. one check on top of the file should be enough imho
[09-Jul-2007 08:09:02] <bzed> it's time to get rid of ZENHOME anyway
[09-Jul-2007 08:09:49] <cluther> bzed: My python may be weak, but I don't even see how the first ZENHOME check would ever be reached.
[09-Jul-2007 08:09:56] <cluther> nevermind..
[09-Jul-2007 08:10:12] <cluther> The one in __init__ should be sufficient.
[09-Jul-2007 08:10:34] <cluther> What do you propose replacing ZENHOME with? Hard code it into a script?
[09-Jul-2007 08:12:21] <bzed> cluther: I'd leave the one on top, in case somebody add some code you want to import without instanciating the class
[09-Jul-2007 08:12:24] <iscream> cluther : how can i write in in the alerts tab which we mentioned up, that i want an alarm example when the processor's temperature is 55celsius
[09-Jul-2007 08:12:49] <bzed> cluther: although I didn;t read the file again, I've just looked at my patch
[09-Jul-2007 08:14:32] <cluther> iscream: You need to think about it differently. You don't configure thresholds inside of alerting rules, you configure them as thresholds on performance templates.
[09-Jul-2007 08:14:37] <bzed> cluther: that's nto too complicated for python. you create a zenoss module while installing, which contains all neccessary informations. and you just import that in all py stuff. it has to be isntalled in pythons sys.path, but that's not complicated at all.
[09-Jul-2007 08:15:05] <cluther> bzed: What if you wanted two instances of Zenoss on the same system?
[09-Jul-2007 08:16:22] <bzed> cluther: install the config somewhere under the zope instance, there's stuff from there added to the python path for zope anyway
[09-Jul-2007 08:16:55] <iscream> cluther: ok, than how could i do the example . can you tell me from the beginning step-by-step?:S:(
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[09-Jul-2007 08:18:27] <cluther> iscream: The first step would be figuring out how to get your CPU's temperature. Do you know what the SNMP OID is?
[09-Jul-2007 08:19:06] <bzed> cluther: the problem is that there're people out there like me who are working on packaging zenoss for ${linux,bsd}-distribution, and at the moment it's pain in the ass to do it, becuase of all those random $ZENOSS. and os.getent..., os.eviron... I'll contact ead with a proper suggestion on how to solve that, first I need to get out debian package workign again
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[09-Jul-2007 08:21:29] <iscream> cluther : what is it?:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:22:01] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 08:22:10] <iscream> ok
[09-Jul-2007 08:22:22] <iscream> i found it
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:00] <iscream> and what have i got to do with it?
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:02] <iscream> or maybe
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:07] <iscream> an easier problem
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:19] <iscream> alert me if the usage is 95%
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:22] <iscream> how could i do it?
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:28] <cluther> What usage?
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:33] <iscream> hard disk:P
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:42] <iscream> or processor
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[09-Jul-2007 08:24:33] <cluther> Let's just use CPU is the example on your windows server..
[09-Jul-2007 08:24:43] <cluther> I need to finish my coffee. =}
[09-Jul-2007 08:25:13] <iscream> ok, im very patient, especially someone helps me:) take your time:)
[09-Jul-2007 08:25:21] <cluther> Go to /Devices/Server/Windows and click on the Templates tab.
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[09-Jul-2007 08:25:43] <cluther> You'll see one of the templates is named "Device" click on it.
[09-Jul-2007 08:25:43] <iscream> yeah
[09-Jul-2007 08:26:03] <cluther> In the list of thresholds you should see one called "CPU Utilization over 90"
[09-Jul-2007 08:26:16] <iscream> yeah
[09-Jul-2007 08:26:19] <iscream> i have only that
[09-Jul-2007 08:27:06] <cluther> The severity is "Warning" and the escalate count is 5. What this means that if your CPU utilization goes above 90% it will generate an event of warning severity, and if it stays over 90% for 5 polls, it will generate an escalated event of error severity.
[09-Jul-2007 08:27:34] <cluther> If you click on the threshold, you can see that the "Event Class" is set to /Perf/CPU.
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:27] <cluther> If you wanted to setup an alerting rule for these specific threshold violations, you could add "Event Class = /Perf/CPU" to the filter.
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:29] <iscream> yeah
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:42] <iscream> after that?
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:55] <cluther> Nothing.. that's it.
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:06] <iscream> i enable it
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:12] <iscream> and thats all?
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:18] <cluther> yes.
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:38] <bzed> cluther: btw, why would anybody liek to run more than one zenoss instance on a computer? that calls for trouble anyway
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:47] <cluther> Well... make sure your "SMTP server" and "From address" are setup under Settings.
[09-Jul-2007 08:30:24] <iscream> cluther:and from now on if the cpu reaches 90% and goes it would give me a warning?
[09-Jul-2007 08:31:11] <cluther> iscream: If you alerting rule was set to Severity >= Warning, you'd get the alert immediately.. if it was set to Severity >= Error, you'd only get the alert once the escalation of the threshold was reached.
[09-Jul-2007 08:31:14] <cluther> iscream: Makes sense?
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:04] <cluther> bzed: I run lots of instances for my purposes..
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:17] <iscream> cluther : i think i got it
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:31] <cluther> bzed: I'm sure you know that someone will always do that thing that "Why would someone ever ..." thing.
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:44] <cluther> gah.. english has escaped me.
[09-Jul-2007 08:33:15] <iscream> sry for my english, i'm from hungary:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:33:29] <bzed> cluther: sure, but even than gettig rid of ZENHOME woudl work in large parts and make live for easy
[09-Jul-2007 08:35:21] <bzed> cluther: running more than one instance is not complicated - it's zope. but you still don;t need to do $ZENHOME-weirdness
[09-Jul-2007 08:35:38] <cluther> bzed: Using the FSSTND sounds like a lovely idea at first, but I shudder when I think about the dependency problems that would crop up.
[09-Jul-2007 08:36:38] <bzed> cluther: if you write a proper script to configure everyting you can stilld ecide if you want to use /opt/foo and put everythign in there or jsut / and get it right
[09-Jul-2007 08:37:00] <iscream> cluther : and how can i make an error when in the company's inner network one of the router/switch is dead? to notify the admin/user that its something wrong whit that part of the network...?
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[09-Jul-2007 08:37:59] <bzed> iscream: usually you don;t need that because the admin doesn;t have internet anymore, so they'll go and look on their own *g*
[09-Jul-2007 08:38:07] <cluther> heh..
[09-Jul-2007 08:38:25] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 08:38:50] <cluther> iscream: You really don't need to tackle each of the instances on its own. The best way to figure all of this out is to simulate failures, look at the events that are created then setup your alerting rules to match these events.
[09-Jul-2007 08:39:15] <cluther> iscream: Or do what most people do.. create a single alerting rule that sends all Severity >= Error events to you.
[09-Jul-2007 08:40:33] <iscream> ok
[09-Jul-2007 08:42:02] <bzed> iscream: or create a mailinglist/mail alias for that, usually the person who should take care of it doesn;t read their mail NOW becuase they're drinking coffee or are on holidays, so somebody else can take care of it
[09-Jul-2007 08:42:27] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:00] <bzed> here we have one imap folderfor all admins
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:26] <bzed> or you're crazy and feed it into a ticketing system O_o
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:34] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:37] <iscream> i dont think so:D
[09-Jul-2007 08:44:42] <iscream> thank you for everything
[09-Jul-2007 08:45:15] <iscream> i hope i can do it:)
[09-Jul-2007 08:45:20] <iscream> and so my boss hopes:P
[09-Jul-2007 08:46:18] <iscream> byebye all!
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[09-Jul-2007 09:45:39] <Bulwinkle> 'morning cluther
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[09-Jul-2007 09:46:43] <cluther> Morning, Bulwinkle.
[09-Jul-2007 09:49:17] <Bulwinkle> cluther: seems like some of my utilization graphs aren't working on my Catalys switches running CatOS
[09-Jul-2007 09:50:09] <cluther> Getting NaNs or no graphs at all?
[09-Jul-2007 09:51:24] <Bulwinkle> no graphs at all
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[09-Jul-2007 09:55:07] <cluther> hmm.. that'd mean that no graphs are defined in the Device template for the class. What device class are they in?
[09-Jul-2007 09:55:32] <Bulwinkle> Devices/Network/Switch/Cisco
[09-Jul-2007 09:56:02] <cluther> If you go to the Templates tab of that class and to the Device template are any graphs defined?
[09-Jul-2007 09:56:09] <Bulwinkle> Yeppers
[09-Jul-2007 09:56:53] <cluther> ok, on the Perf tab for the CatOS device.. do you get the graph navigation controls? < > zoom in/out?
[09-Jul-2007 09:57:50] <Bulwinkle> Nope
[09-Jul-2007 09:57:56] <Bulwinkle> Nothing on the Perf tab
[09-Jul-2007 09:58:17] <cluther> Weird. Does the device have it's own local Device template?
[09-Jul-2007 09:59:22] <Bulwinkle> nope... shares it with /Devices
[09-Jul-2007 10:03:35] <cluther> Ah.. now that makes sense.
[09-Jul-2007 10:03:47] <cluther> The Device template at /Devices only collects sysUpTime.. no graphs.
[09-Jul-2007 10:04:31] <cluther> Try copying the Device template from /Network/Router/Cisco to /Network/Switch/Cisco.
[09-Jul-2007 10:06:18] <Bulwinkle> how about the interface graphs?
[09-Jul-2007 10:08:32] <cluther> Those will be inherited properly since they're so generic.
[09-Jul-2007 10:11:44] <Bulwinkle> The graphs are working for the IOS switches, just not for the CatOS
[09-Jul-2007 10:11:57] <Bulwinkle> (Interface graphs)
[09-Jul-2007 10:12:58] <cluther> That's odd. Are you looking at an interface that is up/up?
[09-Jul-2007 10:13:06] <Bulwinkle> yeppers....
[09-Jul-2007 10:13:25] <Bulwinkle> the graphs controls are showing up
[09-Jul-2007 10:15:08] <bzed> cluther: does zenoss use/need the winexe binary?
[09-Jul-2007 10:15:51] <bzed> as fas as I can see iy only uses pycom/pywmi
[09-Jul-2007 10:16:09] <cluther> Not for normal operations. It's a utility for remote command execution.. for user commands or event-driven commands.
[09-Jul-2007 10:16:40] <bzed> ah ok, thought so
[09-Jul-2007 10:22:51] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I think you're being bitten by a bug. Try applying this patch: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/5858
[09-Jul-2007 10:22:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Changeset 5858 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[09-Jul-2007 10:22:54] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Then restart zenoss.
[09-Jul-2007 10:26:44] <Bulwinkle> cluther: restarting now'
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[09-Jul-2007 10:54:14] <Bulwinkle> cluther: that had an interesting effect
[09-Jul-2007 10:54:21] <MoreDakka> haha
[09-Jul-2007 10:54:41] <Bulwinkle> now all my interface names are back to X/Y not FastEthernet X/Y
[09-Jul-2007 10:55:13] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I'm pretty sure that's the only way CatOS knows them.
[09-Jul-2007 10:55:22] <Bulwinkle> okay
[09-Jul-2007 10:55:26] <cluther> Bulwinkle: IOS has the long FastEthernet#/# names.
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[09-Jul-2007 11:15:37] <bzed> cluther: how long does it ususally take until the first perf graphs of localhost appear?
[09-Jul-2007 11:17:24] <cluther> 15 minutes
[09-Jul-2007 11:17:49] * bzed gets popcorn
[09-Jul-2007 11:19:43] <bzed> cluther: do you ahve chris around somewhere? would be cool if he could package zenplugins to 2.0.2.1 with the copyright fixes
[09-Jul-2007 11:21:53] <cluther> I'll be over there a bit later. I'll mention it to him.
[09-Jul-2007 11:23:25] <bzed> cluther: awesome, thanks. and say thanks to him for fixing that in 5 minutes
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[09-Jul-2007 11:46:39] <bzed> cluther: do I assume right that zenperfsnmp collects the statistic data and creates the graphs?
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:01] <cluther> bzed: It collects the data and stores it into RRD files.
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:11] <bzed> cluther: in the perf directory?
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:14] <cluther> bzed: yeah
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:30] <bzed> hmm, there was only a Devices folder created, but nothing else...
[09-Jul-2007 11:48:12] <bzed> the log is emppty unfortunately
[09-Jul-2007 11:49:06] <cluther> The zenperfsnmp.log is empty? That shouldn't be..
[09-Jul-2007 11:49:09] <cluther> Is it running?
[09-Jul-2007 11:49:55] <bzed> yeah, it is
[09-Jul-2007 11:52:53] <bzed> I'm stracing it at the moment, looks kinda weird
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:05] <bzed> Jul 9 17:18:55 hal snmpd[7219]: Connection from UDP: [127.0.0.1]:-32726
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:12] <bzed> that's int he syslog, whatever it means
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:23] * bzed goes to kick snmpd
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:43] <bzed> cluther: does it need snmpd on tcp and udp?
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:53] <cluther> bzed: Only udp
[09-Jul-2007 11:55:19] <bzed> but autodiscover usus tcp?
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[09-Jul-2007 12:03:12] <cluther> bzed: SNMP autodiscovery uses UDP.
[09-Jul-2007 12:03:55] <bzed> ah that's probably also the reason why it DOSes large networks
[09-Jul-2007 12:04:55] <bzed> anyway, I'll give it another try with my linksys wrt54g, probably debian's snmpd is jst fucked up and does't tell anything useful
[09-Jul-2007 12:09:03] <creiht> bzed: You do have to change the snmpd.conf for it to report useful information
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[09-Jul-2007 12:09:43] <bzed> creiht: do you have a working example around?
[09-Jul-2007 12:09:48] <junix|work> is there a version for Debian STable out??
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:02] <bzed> junix|work: no, experimental in a few days hopefully
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:07] <junix|work> cool
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:25] <bzed> junix|work: if you ahve time and a box running unstable/testing you can test it in an hour or so
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:53] <creiht> bzed: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2007 12:11:19] <bzed> junix|work: I need to add a few little fixes first
[09-Jul-2007 12:11:43] <bzed> creiht: that looks like the example which is shipped with zenoss and which I'm using at the moment
[09-Jul-2007 12:12:07] <creiht> hrm.. Well that should report the right info then
[09-Jul-2007 12:12:08] <junix|work> how hard is it to compile on a Debian Stable system, is it as easy say....nagios?\
[09-Jul-2007 12:13:47] <bzed> junix|work: we will provide backported packages
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:04] <junix|work> ok...
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:10] <junix|work> but if i wanted to compile it myself...
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:12] <junix|work> how hard is it?
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:13] <bzed> you could install the tarball as shipped from zenoss, there's a howto in the forum - I can give you a link to it if you want
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:21] <junix|work> is it a pain like zabbix?
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:53] <bzed> it's not too complicated, but more easy is waiting for us of course
[09-Jul-2007 12:16:00] <junix|work> how much longer till backports?
[09-Jul-2007 12:16:25] <bzed> hard to say
[09-Jul-2007 12:17:12] <bzed> as we have to backport about.. uhm... 10 packages or so.. that will take some time, and the main package is not finished yet, and not in debian
[09-Jul-2007 12:17:15] <bzed> (yet)
[09-Jul-2007 12:17:58] <bzed> I think it'll go into unstable before august
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[09-Jul-2007 12:18:21] <bzed> depending on how fast the ftpo masters are
[09-Jul-2007 12:18:25] <junix|work> bzed: i may need it before then
[09-Jul-2007 12:18:41] <bzed> i need it since months
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:06] <junix|work> i know
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:33] <bzed> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1551&highlight= could be useful if you want to install it without packages
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Installing on Debian etch using mostly native packages (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:33] <bzed> not sure how that works with 2.0 though
[09-Jul-2007 12:21:12] <bzed> junix|work: otherwise if you have time to test and probably debug our pacakge for debian, chances are reaylly good that we'll be faster
[09-Jul-2007 12:22:14] <bzed> https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-zenoss/
[09-Jul-2007 12:22:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Alioth: Zenoss Packaging Team: Project Info (at alioth.debian.org)
[09-Jul-2007 12:22:33] <junix|work> i could do that...
[09-Jul-2007 12:25:31] <junix|work> bzed: how does it do autodiscovery? SNMP?
[09-Jul-2007 12:26:13] <bzed> not absolutely sure about that, at least there's some snmp udp involved
[09-Jul-2007 12:26:26] <junix|work> bzed: have you ever dealt with troubleticketexpress?
[09-Jul-2007 12:26:52] <bzed> I wanted to test it at the debian conference, but /16 is way too large for autodiscovery, it'll just be a DOS on your own computer and the network
[09-Jul-2007 12:27:00] <bzed> troubleticketexpress? no
[09-Jul-2007 12:27:05] <junix|work> k
[09-Jul-2007 12:28:34] <bzed> I'd use http://otrs.org/ as ticketing system
[09-Jul-2007 12:28:34] <adytum-bot> Title: OTRS::Email Management::Trouble Ticket System::Welcome! (at otrs.org)
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[09-Jul-2007 12:33:12] <junix|work> thanks
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[09-Jul-2007 12:40:24] <bzed> cluther: time for the next blocker bug
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[09-Jul-2007 12:59:01] <jshadow> I have a Windows server, which I am able to snmpwalk from the zenoss interface, but it keeps popping up with a "snmp agent down event", any idea why this might be?
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[09-Jul-2007 14:47:47] <litein> I am currently using the VM Appliance 1.1.1. How can I back up my data and move it to the VM appliance 2.0
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[09-Jul-2007 16:34:33] <tty01> anyone know if there is a way to recover a template i accidently deleted?
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[09-Jul-2007 16:35:33] <scrip> anyone here with knoledge of the nagios plugin interface?
[09-Jul-2007 16:46:33] * scrip listenes to the crickets
[09-Jul-2007 16:56:53] <cluther> Quiet today..
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[09-Jul-2007 16:57:02] <cluther> scrip: What do you want to know about the plugin interface?
[09-Jul-2007 16:57:14] <scrip> it seems to be truncating the performance data that the plugin returns
[09-Jul-2007 16:57:39] <scrip> nagios docs say it has a 4kb limit, I'm not returning anything nerarly that large, I'm returning a little under 1kb
[09-Jul-2007 16:57:52] <scrip> but zenoss seems to have a different idea about the acceptable length
[09-Jul-2007 16:59:27] <cluther> hmm.. if you run zencommand with logseverity set to 10 it will print the output of the command.
[09-Jul-2007 16:59:39] <cluther> zencommand run -v 10 --device=yourdevice
[09-Jul-2007 17:00:41] <scrip> yeah, I've tried that
[09-Jul-2007 17:00:50] <scrip> and I can see it say that its saving values to an rrd file
[09-Jul-2007 17:00:57] <scrip> and some of those never show up in the graph
[09-Jul-2007 17:03:24] <cluther> scrip: So all of the output you'd expect to see is there?
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:00] <scrip> yeah, all the output I expect
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:17] <scrip> storing current_standard_asr_line1 = 100 in /Devices/blah blahblah
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:34] <scrip> but on the perf tab for that device, I don't see any graphs, nothing
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:40] <scrip> no empty graphs, just nothing
[09-Jul-2007 17:09:08] <cluther> scrip: It may be a stupid question, but you have defined a graph that uses that data point, correct?
[09-Jul-2007 17:09:24] <scrip> yeah, it works on SOME of the devices I'm monitoring
[09-Jul-2007 17:10:03] <scrip> the perf template is for the entire device class, and works for some of the devices
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[09-Jul-2007 17:10:39] <cluther> Is it possible that some of the devices have local performance templates overriding the one on the device class?
[09-Jul-2007 17:10:58] <bzed> cluther: is there any fast way to see if zenperfsnmpd receives any proper data (as in: the rrd generation fails) or if it there's something missing? there's no log, nothing
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[09-Jul-2007 17:11:36] <cluther> bzed: You can run it with debugging output in the foreground: "zenperfsnmp run -v 10"
[09-Jul-2007 17:11:57] <bzed> sounds good, will do so
[09-Jul-2007 17:12:25] <scrip> cluther: nope, all the devices were added in an automated fashion
[09-Jul-2007 17:13:49] <cluther> scrip: Can you look in your $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/devicename/ directory to see if the rrd files exist and if they have a current timestamp?
[09-Jul-2007 17:16:01] <cluther> I have to run..
[09-Jul-2007 17:16:32] <scrip> yeah, the rrd files are there and have current timestamps
[09-Jul-2007 17:16:44] <scrip> and theres lots of old rrds too, from old configs
[09-Jul-2007 17:17:05] <scrip> which log would have any errors form the webinterface? zopectl?
[09-Jul-2007 17:17:53] <cluther> event.log
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[09-Jul-2007 17:19:12] <scrip> is there any reason the graph rendering functions would be failing? like If I changed part of the RRD config or something?
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[09-Jul-2007 17:31:29] <scrip> so, why would the graphs not show up when the rrd files are in place?
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[09-Jul-2007 18:16:58] <markl__> ok total n00b here - I set up snmpd and had zenoss try to detect my server, but the tabs other than "status" are all empty
[09-Jul-2007 18:17:13] <markl__> centos5/rhel5 everywhere
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[09-Jul-2007 18:36:18] <markl__> appendix 23 of user manual
[09-Jul-2007 18:36:40] <markl__> has the snmp.conf mod to make to allow zenoss to see everything.
[09-Jul-2007 18:36:43] <markl__> thanks
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[09-Jul-2007 19:04:37] <bzed> cluther_: still around?
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[09-Jul-2007 19:17:26] <scrip> whoo hoo! zenoss is working for me!
[09-Jul-2007 19:17:32] <scrip> tracking >100 devices!
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[10-Jul-2007 03:27:28] <iscream> hi all
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[10-Jul-2007 04:06:22] <iscream> hi all
[10-Jul-2007 04:07:59] <iscream> can somebody help me with this error? (WMI talking to PC : com_error(121) : DOS code 0x00000079)
[10-Jul-2007 04:08:22] <iscream> it appears in the event console
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[10-Jul-2007 04:32:24] <iscream> hey bzed:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:32:55] <bzed> heya
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:04] <bzed> where's cluther when yiu nee dhim
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:16] <iscream> donno:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:24] <iscream> but its ok, i can wait
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:24] <bzed> and I need coffee, too many typos in one line
[10-Jul-2007 04:34:06] <iscream> i have a strange event ... event: WMI talking to PC ; eventsummary : com_error(121) DOS code 0x00000079.
[10-Jul-2007 04:34:34] <iscream> bzed: where are you from?
[10-Jul-2007 04:34:45] <bzed> germany
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:03] <iscream> then its half past 10 too, right?:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:15] <bzed> yes
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:30] <iscream> and you need coffe at this time?:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:35] <bzed> for sure
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:39] <iscream> when did you get up?:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:47] <bzed> 5 minutes ago
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:49] <iscream> ohh
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:53] <bzed> because I want to bed 7 hours ago
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:54] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:56] <bzed> *went
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:58] <iscream> thats its allowed:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:19] <bzed> because I worked on the debian package of zenoss until something around 3am
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:22] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:32] <iscream> and have you finished it?
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:34] <bzed> about 15 hours yesterday
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:36] <bzed> almost
[10-Jul-2007 04:37:17] <bzed> we found another bunch of messed up copyrights which make it not distributeable for debian, but the zenoss guys are usually pretty fast in fixing them
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[10-Jul-2007 04:38:15] <iscream> i wanted to isntall zenoss to my vmware-->ubuntu server, but it crashed everytime at something python error, when i used python 2.4 its too old i guess, but it isnt support python2.5 i guess
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:39] <iscream> after that i used the vmware appliance
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:42] <bzed> iscream: the python2.4 from ubuntu should just be fine
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:43] <iscream> its more easier...
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:52] <bzed> zope doesn;t un in 2.5
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:56] <bzed> *run
[10-Jul-2007 04:39:00] <iscream> i donno, i installed pyton2.4, 2.4-dev
[10-Jul-2007 04:39:06] <iscream> but errors all the time
[10-Jul-2007 04:39:15] <bzed> so you have to change the files at some places, or change /usr/bin/python to point to 2.4
[10-Jul-2007 04:40:01] <iscream> its ok now with the vmware appliance:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:42:40] <ben__> Hello folkes.
[10-Jul-2007 04:42:56] <iscream> ben__ : hey
[10-Jul-2007 04:43:04] <ben__> Quick question, if I may.
[10-Jul-2007 04:43:39] <iscream> sure
[10-Jul-2007 04:43:40] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:44:11] <ben__> What is the latest thinking for the bad wmi state error while monitoring MS boxes?
[10-Jul-2007 04:44:43] <ben__> I am running 2.0 on ubuntu server 7.04
[10-Jul-2007 04:45:05] <iscream> for example WMI talking to PC ; eventsummary : com_error(121) DOS code 0x00000079. ?:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:45:25] <bzed> ben__: there're several fixes in 2.0.2
[10-Jul-2007 04:45:49] <bzed> and more to come in 2.0.3 if I understood the last svn commit in the wmi par right
[10-Jul-2007 04:46:29] <ben__> Yes thats correct. DOS code 0x00000058 in my case.
[10-Jul-2007 04:47:09] <ben__> Some boxes work and some don't, all on the domain and using the same UN &PW.
[10-Jul-2007 04:49:49] <bzed> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2353&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=3971fbaae9ab58268a9b6aa18da6fa84 << there's a thread about this theme, at least the 00000079 from iscream
[10-Jul-2007 04:49:49] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 04:49:49] <iscream> thx
[10-Jul-2007 04:50:28] <iscream> bzed : is it possible to monitor the device's processor temperature?
[10-Jul-2007 04:51:01] <bzed> no clue in windows
[10-Jul-2007 04:51:16] <bzed> in linux/unix for sure
[10-Jul-2007 04:51:52] <iscream> in zenoss can i use threshold to do it?
[10-Jul-2007 04:52:47] <bzed> I think so, but I haven't played with zenoss much yet, I've spent all my time on packaging it
[10-Jul-2007 04:52:53] <iscream> i hope smtp can serve this kind of information too
[10-Jul-2007 04:52:57] <iscream> ok
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:01] <bzed> snmp
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:04] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:05] <iscream> yes
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:15] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:16] <iscream> my fault:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:23] <bzed> it should, at least in the worst case you should be able to add user-defined tools
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:12] <iscream> when is cluther used to come online?:D:D
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:16] <bzed> no idea
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:24] <iscream> fast answer:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:40] <iscream> bzed : r u zenoss employee?
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:50] <bzed> no
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:17] <bzed> ben__, iscream: looks like a list of DOS-codes: http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Windows-XP-Blue-Screen-Death-STOP-Codes-t43519.html
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:17] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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[10-Jul-2007 04:57:17] <iscream> niiice
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:25] <bzed> lol
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:29] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:34] <iscream> linkz:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:34] <bzed> poor bot, I'd chokoe on windows pages, too
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:01] <iscream> which linux are u using?
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:05] <bzed> debian
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:28] <iscream> how do u feel with ubuntu?:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:40] <iscream> same distribution:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:03] <bzed> well
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:19] <bzed> that's less a feeling distribution-wise
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:26] <bzed> more a feeling towars some developers
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:34] <bzed> some of then are arrogant ********
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:42] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:51] <iscream> i see
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:57] <bzed> and believe ubuntu is everything they need to take care of, and their patches are a MESS
[10-Jul-2007 05:00:16] <bzed> and with other you can just work fine with
[10-Jul-2007 05:00:46] <iscream> hmm
[10-Jul-2007 05:00:50] <bzed> and some people there are telling too often bullshit
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:16] <iscream> how do you mean it?
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:32] <bzed> like why ubuntu is better than debian
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:47] <bzed> and their statements are just wrong
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:55] <bzed> but that's nothing I discuss in public
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:03] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:20] <iscream> i havent registered yet, after that we can discuss it sometime:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:28] <iscream> in pm
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:34] <bzed> imho ubuntu is way too hackish at too many places. upgrading does not work properly (on debian you always have a working upgrade path to the next version)
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:18] <bzed> there're several things in ubuntu which work better than in debian, but often the reason is that it's the same maintainer, and he didn;t backport the patches to debian and so didn;t take care of his packages in debian
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:35] <bzed> or the patches are a pure mess and you just can;t backport them
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:46] <bzed> but as I said before, that really depends on who worked on the stuff
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:54] <iscream> of course
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[10-Jul-2007 05:04:36] <iscream> you have good arguments
[10-Jul-2007 05:04:46] <bzed> for examples in the zope team the important stuff is hostet on debian's alioth, and at the moment maintained frome debian people, ant our new versions are just automatically build and integrated into ubuntu
[10-Jul-2007 05:06:39] <iscream> i worked with ubuntu and debian as well
[10-Jul-2007 05:06:49] <iscream> last year with debian
[10-Jul-2007 05:07:03] <iscream> its friendlier for me
[10-Jul-2007 05:08:17] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 05:09:15] <bzed> I've installed ubuntu on my father's desktop because etch was not out - now I can re-install everything because upgrading it the last time was pain in the ass and it doesn;t look like it would work again
[10-Jul-2007 05:09:24] <bzed> so I 'll just install etch...
[10-Jul-2007 05:10:34] <iscream>
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[10-Jul-2007 05:20:54] <iscream> bzed : can i disturb you again for a little time?:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:16] <bzed> sure
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:25] <bzed> not sure if I can answer, though
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:36] <iscream> probably u can:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:37] <iscream> so
[10-Jul-2007 05:22:35] <iscream> my boss wants me to have zenoss with alerts and so on as i said yesterday, and is it possible monitoring on the device running services/programs?:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:24:10] <iscream> for example is there asterisk running on every server, and if it isnt, then alert the whole company to prey or something:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:23] <bzed> as I understood the snmp config you can add a check for running processes to snmp
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:25] <bzed> snmpd
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:30] <bzed> and it'll spit them out
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:42] <bzed> but I'm not sure how to configure that in zneoss then
[10-Jul-2007 05:28:01] <iscream> for now i found services which are INSTALLed on the device
[10-Jul-2007 05:28:16] <iscream> but no found what services running on the device
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:03] <bzed> unfortunately I didn;t have the time to look into that now
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:10] <bzed> *until now
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:33] <iscream> ok, i asked if maybe you know the answer
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:36] <iscream> well
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:47] <iscream> i will wait for cluther:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:30:07] <iscream> so will do my boss too
[10-Jul-2007 05:30:44] <iscream> i am be paid by the hour, so i have time...:)
[10-Jul-2007 05:30:48] <iscream> -be
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[10-Jul-2007 09:10:02] <iscream> hey cluther
[10-Jul-2007 09:10:12] <iscream>
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[10-Jul-2007 09:14:14] <Boboga> hi all
[10-Jul-2007 09:14:34] <Boboga> anyone in the mood to try to help me?
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[10-Jul-2007 09:25:08] <iscream> cluther : are you here?
[10-Jul-2007 09:25:33] <cluther> iscream: I am, but in the middle of a hundred things at the moment. =}
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[10-Jul-2007 09:39:31] <doofoo> Was wondering if anyone else was having problems with Zenoss 2.0.2 modeling larger devices (6506's with full bgp route tables - even though I have indirect routes diabled) it seems they still time out when modeling. Any ways around this? Same thing happens with 7604's and other random cisco devices.
[10-Jul-2007 09:39:49] <doofoo> It just sits and churns for quite a while, then times out.
[10-Jul-2007 09:44:28] <cluther> doofoo: Remove the RouteMap from the zCollectorPlugins.
[10-Jul-2007 09:47:17] <doofoo> Let me give that a shot.
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[10-Jul-2007 09:49:38] <doofoo> So far it's looking good..
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[10-Jul-2007 09:54:02] <doofoo> Thanks.. Works great. Was also wondering. The search feature, is there any way to make it not only drill down to searching for device ip/name, but also to search interface descriptions?
[10-Jul-2007 09:55:31] <iscream> cluther : i would be very glad if you could come tomorrow sometime online
[10-Jul-2007 09:56:40] <iscream> bye all
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[10-Jul-2007 10:01:49] <megalogeek> Any devs on? I'm trying to figure out how to extend ZenModel to handle HP Insight SNMP information (RAM modules, physical disks, RAID arrays, etc.) but I'm not sure where to start. Is there any documentation or can someone point me in the right direction to start?
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[10-Jul-2007 10:48:24] <junix|work> who suggested otrs to me?
[10-Jul-2007 10:51:22] <cluther> junix|work: bzed
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[10-Jul-2007 10:52:24] <junix|work> k
[10-Jul-2007 10:52:28] <junix|work> is he around?
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[10-Jul-2007 12:42:00] <bzed> cluther: ping
[10-Jul-2007 12:42:09] <cluther> cluther: icmp echo reply
[10-Jul-2007 12:42:47] <bzed> cluther: heya do you ahve a minute or 5 for me?
[10-Jul-2007 12:43:07] <cluther> bzed: I'll make time for you, bzed.
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:39] <bzed> awesome
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:44] <bzed> in inst/GNUmakefile
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:47] <bzed> there's this part:
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> $(INSTALLED_CONFIG): $(DESTDIR)$(ZENHOME)/etc/%.example : conf/%
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> @echo installing $<
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> @mkdir -p $(DESTDIR)$(ZENHOME)/etc
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> @sed -e 's/ZENUSERNAME/$(ZOPEUSER)/' \
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:49] <bzed> -e 's/ZENPASSWORD/$(ZOPEPASSWORD)/' < $< > $@
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:04] <bzed> which replaces ZENUSERNAME and ZENPASSWORD in the config files
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:23] <bzed> but if I look into /conf/*, the files are empty
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:27] <bzed> nothing to repalce
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:30] <bzed> where do I miss the magic?
[10-Jul-2007 12:46:47] <cluther> bzed: That sounds like legacy scripting to me.. the username and password don't need to be specified in any of the stock conf files.
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:06] <bzed> how to they get the username/password then?
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:37] <bzed> as I understand it - at least when I run zenperfsnmp -v10 - it tries to login into zope!?
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:44] <bzed> and that doesn;t seem to work
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:59] <cluther> The only thing they need a username and password for is connecting to zenhub. The default password for that is hard-coded into Products/ZenHub/PBDaemon.py.
[10-Jul-2007 12:48:25] <cluther> cluther: All of the daemons that connect to ZenHub inherit from PBDaemon.
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:03] <bzed> so does that read zenhubpasswd?
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:13] <bzed> err hubpasswd
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:17] <bzed> the file in conf
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:28] <cluther> zenhub itself uses hubpasswd to authenticate clients.
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:57] <cluther> The clients use admin:zenoss unless the "username" and "password" config file options or command line options are specified.
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:08] <bzed> ok
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:20] <bzed> so they try to login to zenhub only?
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:26] <bzed> not into the zope instance?
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:56] <cluther> bzed: Yes.
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:59] <bzed> so I guess part of the code in bin/zenpass si deprecated
[10-Jul-2007 12:51:06] <bzed> and just there to confuse me
[10-Jul-2007 12:51:21] <cluther> bzed: 74% of the code was put in place just to confuse you.
[10-Jul-2007 12:51:32] <cluther> bzed: I expect a report on which lines those were by COB.
[10-Jul-2007 12:52:12] <cluther> bzed: Prior to 1.9.5 zenhub didn't even exist.. so there is a lot of old code still around.
[10-Jul-2007 12:52:17] <bzed> ah ok
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:05] <bzed> cluther: I guess I can run zenhub in debug mode like zenperfsnmp?
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:16] <cluther> bzed: You can, but it has limited debugging output.
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:46] <cluther> bzed: Are you still having troubles getting zenperfsnmp to run?
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:57] <bzed> zenperfsnmp runs, but it doesn;t do anything useful
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:20] <cluther> bzed: Can you pastebin a run of it with -v 10?
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:20] <bzed> aaah
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:25] <bzed> found the problem
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:31] <cluther> Congrats. =}
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:34] <bzed> zenhub likes to run on port 8-81
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:36] <bzed> 8081
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:39] <bzed> as it seems
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:48] <bzed> and I like to have my zope instance on that port, too
[10-Jul-2007 12:56:29] <cluther> bzed: Ah! zenhub actually binds to 8081 (to receive events via xmlrpc) and 8789 (the actual zenhub port)
[10-Jul-2007 12:56:55] <bzed> so zenperfsnmp connected to zope all the time
[10-Jul-2007 12:59:25] <cluther> zenperfsnmp is connected to zenhub at all times... zenhub is connected to zeo at all times..
[10-Jul-2007 12:59:46] <bzed> cluther: ok, let's wait a few minutes for zenperfsnmp
[10-Jul-2007 13:00:38] <bzed> hey, I have graphs
[10-Jul-2007 13:00:46] <bzed> still empty, though, but at least they exist
[10-Jul-2007 13:02:08] <bzed> cluther: is the avaiable/used bytes part of the system information retrieved by zenperfsnmp, too? it says unknown after adding localhost
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[10-Jul-2007 13:06:13] <maj> how often does zenoss check wheather a service is up or down
[10-Jul-2007 13:06:28] <maj> i shut down IIS a while ago, and it still says up
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[10-Jul-2007 13:24:09] <bzed> cluther: ok, I've answered that by myself
[10-Jul-2007 13:24:12] <bzed> seems to work well
[10-Jul-2007 13:26:58] <bzed> cluther: butw btw, zenoss works very well with zope2.9
[10-Jul-2007 13:27:33] <cluther> bzed: hmm.. I remember the devs trying to upgrade trunk to 2.9 a while back and hitting some sort of issue.
[10-Jul-2007 13:27:55] <bzed> hmm
[10-Jul-2007 13:28:20] <bzed> I know that the guy who created that thread abour zenoss on debian some time ago is running it in 2.9, too
[10-Jul-2007 13:29:14] <bzed> I get http://paste.debian.net/32439 when I click on the versions page in the settings, though
[10-Jul-2007 13:29:14] <bzed> cluther: did the devs probably forget to update CMFCore and to remove Five?
[10-Jul-2007 13:30:20] <cluther> bzed: I'd have to dig up the old thread. I know they removed Five..
[10-Jul-2007 13:30:26] <cluther> bzed: Not sure about CMFCore.
[10-Jul-2007 13:30:51] <bzed> cluther: ah, the error up there is my fault. or a ZENHOME fault
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:09] <cluther> bzed: You blame $ZENHOME when it rains, don't you? =}
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:31] <bzed> only when I need to egt rid of it
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:48] <bzed> it was looking for rrdtool in zenhome/bin
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:53] <bzed> there's no rrdtool, that's in /usr/bin
[10-Jul-2007 13:33:33] <bzed> and don;t have rrdtool isntalled at all
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[10-Jul-2007 14:16:07] <bzed> cluther: while looking at the screenshot of the new nagios (http://www.nagios.org/about/screenshots.php) - is there a WAP mode of zenoss
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:05] <cluther> bzed: WAP? Doesn't everyone have an iPhone yet?
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:15] <bzed> cluther: iphone is out
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:19] <bzed> wap, too
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:24] <bzed> openmoko is the choise!
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:33] <b52laptop> yeah i was about to say that ?D
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:39] <cluther> OpenMoko!! (google searches..)
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:47] <bzed> cluther: openmoko.com /openmoko.org
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> cluther, http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <adytum-bot> b52laptop: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <cluther> Interesting.. can't believe I haven't seen this before.
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <bzed> b52laptop: that makes me drool, but I think I'll wait for the version with wifi included
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> cluther, they have just start selling it so it's not too late :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> bzed, really the wifi is included ?
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <bzed> not yet
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <bzed> in a few months
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> so wait before buing :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:53] * b52laptop give a kiss to adytum-bot
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:54] <creiht> hehe... silly bot
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:03] <creiht> adytum-bot: Take me to your administrator
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:03] <adytum-bot> creiht: Error: 'Take' is not a valid command.
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:15] * b52laptop drop a "hello" to creiht
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:19] <creiht> howdy
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:39] <b52laptop> fine thanks , it's a little bit hot there but i 'm fine :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:45] <b52laptop> i prefer the winter :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:57] <b52laptop> and yu how life is treating yu ? :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:03] <creiht> been busy
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:10] <creiht> Hot here as well
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: might you have time to walk me through separating out the vlan and the portchannels?
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:14] <creiht> But it always is
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <bzed> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-June/000014.html < b52laptop, cluther
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <b52laptop>
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <creiht> So how is everyone doing with v2.0.2? I'm trying to decide if it is safe to upgrade yet..
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <creiht>
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <Bulwinkle> I've just upgraded to 2.0.1
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:57] <bzed> adytum-bot: don;t tell me that, tell it to cluther
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:57] <adytum-bot> bzed: Error: 'don;t' is not a valid command.
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:58] <creiht> adytum-bot: help
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:58] <adytum-bot> creiht: ( help [<plugin>] <command> ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:01] <b52laptop> bzed, nice ! ..
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:08] <bzed> adytum-bot: jump
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:08] <adytum-bot> bzed: Error: 'jump' is not a valid command.
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:08] <creiht> hehe
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[10-Jul-2007 14:23:41] <creiht> adytum-bot: kick
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:41] <adytum-bot> creiht: Error: You don't have the '#zenoss,op' capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:49] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:53] <creiht> adytum-bot: whoami
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:53] <adytum-bot> creiht: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command).
[10-Jul-2007 14:27:30] <krunaldo> A quick question, does zenoss support monitoring nodes that send data to an master?
[10-Jul-2007 14:27:47] <krunaldo> sends*
[10-Jul-2007 14:30:31] <_keturn> there are some places that suggest that it might, places in the GUI where you can set status or performance servers for a device to something other than localhost, but if there was anything in the manual about how to set that up, I missed it.
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[10-Jul-2007 14:40:36] <bzed> adytum-bot: whoami
[10-Jul-2007 14:40:36] <adytum-bot> bzed: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command).
[10-Jul-2007 14:42:16] <cluther> adytum-bot: whoami
[10-Jul-2007 14:42:16] <adytum-bot> cluther: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command).
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[10-Jul-2007 14:50:13] <scsponger> I'm having a hard time connecting to the management portal can someone give me some help?
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[10-Jul-2007 14:52:59] <maj> i can't seem to get the service monitoring to work... it keeps saying its up even though i take it down
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[10-Jul-2007 14:56:00] <scsponger> hello is anyone out there?
[10-Jul-2007 14:56:44] <cluther> scsponger: I'm here. What's going on?
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:07] <maj> what should i look at?
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:29] <cluther> maj: Windows service?
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:43] <scsponger> thanks for responding.... I've got the zenoss vmware player image... I've booted it, but can't seem to login via the web portal
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:56] <scsponger> was trying to figure out what I am doing wrong
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:04] <cluther> scsponger: Are you trying to login from the VM's host OS?
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:20] <scsponger> yes
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:30] <scsponger> ubuntu fiesty
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:31] <cluther> What happens? Does the login window come up?
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:47] <scsponger> nah nothing... I can ping it, bout thats about it
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:57] <scsponger> wondering if it was a vmware setting
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:08] <scsponger> seems to me, though its something in zenoss
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:29] <cluther> Shouldn't be.. su - zenoss on the VM and run "zenoss status" to verify that it is all running.
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:39] <maj> login command shell
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:42] <scsponger> ok
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:43] <maj> do a ping
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:44] <scsponger> one sec
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:59] <maj> ur NIC in vmware player may be disabled.
[10-Jul-2007 15:01:24] <scsponger> ping works to the player machine
[10-Jul-2007 15:01:30] <scsponger> from the host os
[10-Jul-2007 15:03:31] <scsponger> tells me that all the daemons are running
[10-Jul-2007 15:03:49] <scsponger> I actually stopped them and then restarted them
[10-Jul-2007 15:04:06] <cluther> scsponger: You're going to http://ip:8080/ ?
[10-Jul-2007 15:04:06] <scsponger> yeah 8080
[10-Jul-2007 15:05:24] <scsponger> wonder if I need to reconfigure vmware player
[10-Jul-2007 15:05:54] <scsponger> seems like if icmp works, then the built in webserver for zenoss should work as well
[10-Jul-2007 15:07:59] <scsponger> any other ideas?
[10-Jul-2007 15:08:18] <scsponger> cluther: any other ideas?
[10-Jul-2007 15:21:28] <scsponger> figured it out.... network can't be bridged in vmware player
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[10-Jul-2007 15:23:46] <junix|work> bzed: you there?
[10-Jul-2007 15:25:04] <bzed> yes
[10-Jul-2007 15:31:13] <junix|work> you have otrs2 setup ??
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[10-Jul-2007 15:37:44] <maj> can you ping out from the player to the host?
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[10-Jul-2007 15:38:08] <_chris_> bernd you around?
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[10-Jul-2007 16:04:37] <junix|work> bzed: you have otrs2 setup ??
[10-Jul-2007 16:05:07] <bzed> no
[10-Jul-2007 16:05:21] <bzed> and when I had to work with it, I didn;t set it up
[10-Jul-2007 16:05:37] <junix|work> oh ok
[10-Jul-2007 16:17:46] <_zack> _chris_: regarding you're comment about one of the license issue in the trac instance
[10-Jul-2007 16:18:15] <_zack> the fact you're using GPLv2 is not enough to want your licenses to be "GPLv2" instead of "GPLv2 or above"
[10-Jul-2007 16:18:23] <_zack> the difference does matter no matter GPLv3 is out or not...
[10-Jul-2007 16:18:58] <_zack> if you go for "GPLv2" your code can be cut and paste only in "GPLv2" code
[10-Jul-2007 16:19:22] <_zack> if you go for "GPLv2 or above" your code can be cut and paste only in "GPLv2 or above" code (which is the vast majority of the GPL code around, fwiw)
[10-Jul-2007 16:19:52] <_zack> also you can specify that your code is "GPLv2 or above" and that does not imply that your code is "GPLv*3* or above"
[10-Jul-2007 16:20:57] <_chris_> _zack: yup... i changed the license to say v2.
[10-Jul-2007 16:21:08] <_chris_> _zack: maybe my checkin comment wasn't good. hows the diff look tho?
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <bzed> _zack: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset?old=trunk%405903&new=trunk%405902
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_zack> _chris_: that's fine
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_chris_> cool beans
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_zack> i only looked at the trac comment and from that I assumed that you changed to "gpl v2"
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_zack> ignore the noise
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_chris_> trying to figure out what to do about the javascript stuff
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:03] <_zack> _chris_: cool, thanks a lot for your work!
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:11] <_chris_> heh
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:14] <_chris_> i just googled for DFSG
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:21] <_chris_> figured it was "debian free software group"
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:23] <_chris_> first hit:
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:27] <_chris_> diabetic foot study group
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:29] <_chris_> is that you guys?
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:30] <_chris_> ;-)
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:55] <bzed> err
[10-Jul-2007 16:24:10] * bzed slaps _chris_ with a trout... no.. a diabetic trout.
[10-Jul-2007 16:24:15] <_chris_> heh
[10-Jul-2007 16:26:03] <bzed> _chris_: dfsg: long version - no clue if it's right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines - short version: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[10-Jul-2007 16:26:03] <adytum-bot> Title: Debian Social Contract (at www.debian.org)
[10-Jul-2007 16:26:03] <_chris_> reading the wikipedia article now
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[10-Jul-2007 17:14:39] <slimmpete> Hello Zenoss Guru's
[10-Jul-2007 17:14:56] <slimmpete> I am a Zenoss Newbie and would like some help
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[10-Jul-2007 17:16:19] <slimmpete> I setup a Centos 4.3 VM and am trying to install zenoss from source
[10-Jul-2007 17:16:37] <_chris_> slimmpete: why source and why not rpm?
[10-Jul-2007 17:17:07] <slimmpete> Because I have tried rpm's and they did not work
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[10-Jul-2007 17:17:46] <slimmpete> I am more familiar setting up mysql from mysql-5.0.41-linux-i686.tar.tar
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:07] <slimmpete> installed in /usr/local/mysql
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:23] <oubiwann> creiht: you there?
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:43] <slimmpete> My question is does net-snmpd need to be started?
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:48] <creiht> oubiwann: possibly
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:56] <oubiwann> creiht: heh
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:03] <creiht> oubiwann: How's it going?
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:11] <oubiwann> creiht: remember ages ago we were talking about SQLAlchemy and its issues?
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:23] <creiht> oubiwann: How did I know you were going to bring that up?
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:23] <creiht>
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:30] <creiht> And yes I saw the release of storm
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:31] <oubiwann> the company I couldn't tell you about that had developed another ORM was Canonical :-)
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:33] <oubiwann> hehe
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:43] <oubiwann> but here's the bit I wanted to share with you:
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <oubiwann> http://programming.reddit.com/info/24oo3/comments
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <adytum-bot> oubiwann: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <slimmpete> So SNMP does need to be started
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <slimmpete> net-snmpd
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:40] <oubiwann> that's part of what we talked about at pycon (we == twisted and canonical guys, lamenting issues in SQLAlchemy)
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:49] <_chris_> slimmpete: doesn't need to be started. helps tho because you can start out by modeling the local box via snmp
[10-Jul-2007 17:21:02] <oubiwann> one thing not covered in that reddit comment bit is the inifinite recursion bug in SQLAlchemy (obscure, but repeatable)
[10-Jul-2007 17:22:52] <slimmpete> usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py:38: UserWarning: Using python-based snmp engine warnings.warn("Using python-based snmp engine")
[10-Jul-2007 17:23:44] <slimmpete> Thats the error I am getting
[10-Jul-2007 17:24:07] <_chris_> slimmpete: that's a warning. it should be ok
[10-Jul-2007 17:25:40] <slimmpete> Okay when I login to http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd I am getting error stating "Site error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist."
[10-Jul-2007 17:26:14] <slimmpete> Cont: "Please click here to return to the Zenoss dashboard"
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:24] <creiht> oubiwann: You need to fix your bot
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:37] <oubiwann> creiht: heh
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:44] <oubiwann> that bot is so old and run-down
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:48] <creiht> oubiwann: Well there are always two sides to every story
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:49] <creiht>
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:51] <oubiwann> it needs replacing
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:55] <creiht> And I'm staying out of it
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:59] <oubiwann> creiht: heh
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:02] <_chris_> slimmpete: can you just go to http://localhost:8080/
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:38] <slimmpete> I can but then it directs me to zport/dmd
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:50] <creiht> haha
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:56] <_chris_> slimmpete: did you get through the entire install process?
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:01] <creiht> http://localhost:8080/manage
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:10] <slimmpete> yes and I got a successfull install
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:12] <_chris_> did you get through the part that said something like "Populating initial zenoss object database (this may take awhile)"?
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:28] <slimmpete> Yes
[10-Jul-2007 17:33:14] <creiht> heh... I guess the bot doesn't like me
[10-Jul-2007 17:34:16] <slimmpete> I am going to create the whole install again because it had a problem finding libmysqlclient_r.so.15
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[10-Jul-2007 17:45:40] <bzed> hmm
[10-Jul-2007 17:45:55] <bzed> http://admin:zenoss@localhost:8080/manage/
[10-Jul-2007 17:45:55] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 17:45:59] <bzed> damn
[10-Jul-2007 17:49:45] <solarce> haha
[10-Jul-2007 17:49:57] <solarce> http://foo:foo@foo:8080/foo/
[10-Jul-2007 17:49:57] <adytum-bot> solarce: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 17:50:01] <solarce> :>
[10-Jul-2007 17:54:56] <bzed> http://bzed.de
[10-Jul-2007 17:55:13] <bzed> ?
[10-Jul-2007 17:55:51] <bzed> http://bzed.de/
[10-Jul-2007 17:57:23] <bzed> the bot doesn;t like me
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[11-Jul-2007 00:15:22] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Open Source Community Interaction: Is More Less? - 10 Jul, 07:04PM
[11-Jul-2007 00:15:23] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=140
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[11-Jul-2007 02:34:53] <iscream> can anybody help me ?:)
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[11-Jul-2007 03:07:06] <kury-> hey guys does anyone know which part of zenoss sends emails real quick off the top of their head
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[11-Jul-2007 03:44:11] <iscream> can anybody help me ?
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[11-Jul-2007 04:09:04] <iscream> can anybody help me ?
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[11-Jul-2007 04:16:47] <iscream> hey bzed
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:15] <bzed> hi
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:29] <iscream> how do you do
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:44] <bzed> tired but ok, thanks
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:46] <bzed> you?
[11-Jul-2007 04:18:49] <iscream> i cannot go forward with my work:S:P
[11-Jul-2007 04:18:58] <iscream> what do you know about MIBs?
[11-Jul-2007 04:22:05] <bzed> i know RFC 2325
[11-Jul-2007 04:22:13] <bzed>
[11-Jul-2007 04:22:21] <bzed> what do you want to know about them?
[11-Jul-2007 04:23:56] <iscream> i have the zenoss apliance vmware image, its on an rpath linux, but i dont know how could i install/download lm-sensors-mib , which helps me to get the device's temperature
[11-Jul-2007 04:49:41] <iscream> bzed : dont you know the answer, how can i install lm-sensors-mib to rpath linux?
[11-Jul-2007 04:49:52] <iscream> no apt-get,no dselect, only conary :S
[11-Jul-2007 04:51:36] <bzed> no idea
[11-Jul-2007 04:52:14] <iscream> ok, thx
[11-Jul-2007 04:58:45] <bzed> I'd probably just call an external program from snmpd
[11-Jul-2007 04:58:53] <bzed> but no idea how rto do it the right way
[11-Jul-2007 05:04:32] <iscream> thx for the idea
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[11-Jul-2007 08:01:44] <iscream> cluther : hello, if you have time for me, pls tell me:)
[11-Jul-2007 08:02:32] <plaspop> Hi I have a questions about graphs, I just installed Zenoss so i'm a bit new on this, I have added 5 server al show there partion graph visible, but i dont see the cpu/mem/paging graph
[11-Jul-2007 08:02:46] <plaspop> is there a way to debug this in a way ?
[11-Jul-2007 08:04:14] <plaspop> btw everything is default, so no changes have been made
[11-Jul-2007 08:04:37] <iscream> if you choosed the right device class, wait a few minutes, and it will appear
[11-Jul-2007 08:08:24] <plaspop> could it be that the zenoss server is on a different network, so it cannot collect al data for the graphs ?
[11-Jul-2007 08:08:38] <plaspop> because it's on for 24 ours now
[11-Jul-2007 08:13:11] <iscream> plaspop : i think it should go anyway, what kind of servers did you add?
[11-Jul-2007 08:13:48] <plaspop> 4 win, 1 unix
[11-Jul-2007 08:14:08] <iscream> r there snmp informants on the win servers?
[11-Jul-2007 08:14:25] <iscream> unix's graphs should go
[11-Jul-2007 08:14:48] <plaspop> even the localhost graph isn't showing
[11-Jul-2007 08:15:02] <plaspop> show i think now it cant be a routing issue
[11-Jul-2007 08:15:39] <plaspop> iscream: yes there are, we are monitoring with nagios / oreon atm
[11-Jul-2007 08:17:10] <iscream> plaspop : i donno than , sry
[11-Jul-2007 08:17:49] <iscream> plaspop : what kind of OS have you installed zenoss?
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[11-Jul-2007 08:19:23] <iscream> plaspop: maybe check it out in the zenoss forum
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[11-Jul-2007 08:19:58] <iscream> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1410 - this is one thread , but there are others
[11-Jul-2007 08:19:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - No graphs with VMware appliance? (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2007 08:19:58] <iscream> re cluther
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[11-Jul-2007 08:20:02] <plaspop> oke thank anyway
[11-Jul-2007 08:20:20] <plaspop> i'll ask the question trough forum
[11-Jul-2007 08:20:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you around yet this morning?
[11-Jul-2007 08:21:31] <iscream> everybody wants cluther
[11-Jul-2007 08:22:58] <cluther> Mornin' folks. I am around, but not going to able to see the light of day for a while.
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[11-Jul-2007 08:25:44] <iscream> cluther : pls pls pls help me quickly if u have a little time:)
[11-Jul-2007 08:25:55] <iscream> but i dont wanna disturb u
[11-Jul-2007 08:26:30] <cluther> Go ahead and throw the question out there.
[11-Jul-2007 08:29:07] <Darkfang> I got a question too. Has an integration with an incident tracking tool like GLPI has been planned?
[11-Jul-2007 08:32:05] <cluther> We have the integrated inventory management. There are no current plans to build our own job tracking system for this. We usually recommend integrating with a ticketing system for this.
[11-Jul-2007 08:33:30] <iscream> cluther : WMI error talking to ISCREAM: com_error(121): DOS code 0x00000079, WMI error talking to ISCREAM 121: Desc - i have these 2 events all the time , i found a similar thread in the forum, and wrote there i guess, and Zwinpass,and Zwinuser is needed i guess...what will those be?
[11-Jul-2007 08:34:28] <cluther> iscream: zWinUser would be "DOMAIN\Username" or ".\Username" for a local account.
[11-Jul-2007 08:34:38] <cluther> iscream: The user will need domain or local admin privileges.
[11-Jul-2007 08:34:49] <cluther> iscream: zWinPassword is that user's password.
[11-Jul-2007 08:35:16] <iscream> cluther : ".\username" - what i choose right now, or what i choosed once...?
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[11-Jul-2007 08:36:03] <Darkfang> I've working a bit on mysql the last few days to integrate zenoss to GLPI. Events already generate tickets, moving them to history close the tickets and some other stuff
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[11-Jul-2007 08:38:45] <cluther> iscream: It's the actual username you would use to login to the Windows machine as admin.
[11-Jul-2007 08:38:57] <cluther> Darkfang: Very nice!
[11-Jul-2007 08:40:56] <iscream> cluther : nice
[11-Jul-2007 08:41:29] <Darkfang> it's just some mapping tables and triggers in the mysql databases
[11-Jul-2007 08:42:54] <iscream> cluther : other question would be ... i wrote a lot about how could i manage to find out the devices temperature, and they say they use "LM-SENSORS-MIB" , how can i install it on my vm appliance on rpath?:S
[11-Jul-2007 08:44:03] <iscream> -wrote +read
[11-Jul-2007 08:44:42] <iscream> cluther : or how can i see the devices temperature
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[11-Jul-2007 08:48:38] <twaijn> hello. I've installed zenoss 2.0.1 on rhel5 and I'm having trouble with performance graphs. they aren't generated for localhost nor the three switches I've configured.
[11-Jul-2007 08:49:24] <twaijn> from the forums I gathered that zenperfsnmp run -v10 should show what's wrong but I cannot really gather anything sane from the output: http://pastebin.ca/614213
[11-Jul-2007 08:49:24] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 614213 (at pastebin.ca)
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[11-Jul-2007 08:51:09] <iscream> froze out?
[11-Jul-2007 08:57:35] <iscream> cluther_ : any idea?:P
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[11-Jul-2007 08:58:17] <cluther_> iscream: What do you mean froze out? The account is locked out?
[11-Jul-2007 08:58:25] <iscream> not me...you from mirc...:D
[11-Jul-2007 08:59:07] <iscream> my question was : how can i get in the zenoss the devices processor temperature:)
[11-Jul-2007 08:59:48] <iscream> and i guess, when i fix the WMI connect problem, than i can see the programs which are running on the devices?
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[11-Jul-2007 09:06:43] <cluther_> iscream: WMI will show you the services that are installed on the box. You can then choose which ones to monitor.
[11-Jul-2007 09:07:14] <cluther_> iscream: As far as the processor temperature goes.. did you find the SNMP OID for it?
[11-Jul-2007 09:08:48] <iscream> cluther_ : i would like to monitor running programs, not installed programs, is it possible?
[11-Jul-2007 09:10:22] <cluther_> iscream: Yes, that is possible without even using WMI as Windows servers expose process information through the standard SNMP service.
[11-Jul-2007 09:11:58] <iscream> cluther_ : i found this http://webaj.com/how-setup-environmental-monitor-zenoss-1-1-2-and-centos-5-0.htm , but i have the vmware appliance, and some saying me the "LM-SENSORS-MIB"
[11-Jul-2007 09:11:58] <adytum-bot> Title: How to setup a environmental monitor in Zenoss 1.1.2 and Centos 5.0 | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:17] <iscream> cluther_ : can you explain me how to find out the running programs, if you have time, or send me in email, if you have time, i think i will have some questions by the time, but i dont want to disturb you
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:33] <cluther_> iscream: That article is discussing using the RA11 environmental monitor. It is an actual rack-mountable environmental monitoring device.
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:41] <iscream> cluther_ : shall i give you an email-address?
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:58] <iscream> cluther_ : then its not good for me i guess
[11-Jul-2007 09:16:16] <cluther_> iscream: To monitor a process you simply need to add it to the list of processes, set the regex to match the running process name, then remodel the device.
[11-Jul-2007 09:16:29] <iscream> cluther_ : what would you say, if i write you a mail, with all my problems, or all the things that i should make, and when you have time, you reply if you have answers?:P
[11-Jul-2007 09:17:16] <cluther_> iscream: You should really post your questions to the users forum. One topic per post. That will give community members a chance at them.
[11-Jul-2007 09:17:57] <iscream> ok, i will try it
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:19] <iscream> how can i find out the programs regex name?:S - im sorry beeing so big noob:S
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:40] <cluther_> iscream: Normally you can just type the name of the process (look in your task manager)
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:52] <iscream> ohh
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:53] <iscream> i see
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[11-Jul-2007 10:10:46] <iscream> cluther_ : and what if the windows service has only user without any password, does it cause any error when i leave the Zwinpass blank?
[11-Jul-2007 10:12:39] <cluther_> no, that works.
[11-Jul-2007 10:16:15] <iscream> cluther_ : very bad problem: how could it happened, that i restarted the applicant, and now i cannot connect to 'serverip:8080\' ?:S i guess the apache isnt running, or i donno, but why isnt itrunning, i hate rpath... i dont know how to start apache:S shhhh***t
[11-Jul-2007 10:30:20] <iscream> what uninstalled my apache? somebody a solution?:S
[11-Jul-2007 10:40:22] <cluther_> iscream: Zenoss doesn't use apache. Zope is the webserver.
[11-Jul-2007 10:41:37] <iscream> cluther_ : so Zope isnt running maybe?:S
[11-Jul-2007 10:42:01] <cluther_> iscream: It's possible. Are you sure the application got the same IP this boot?
[11-Jul-2007 10:42:10] <iscream> yes
[11-Jul-2007 10:42:39] <cluther_> iscream: You can "su - zenoss" to switch to the zenoss user then run "zenoss status" to see the status of all of the required daemons.
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zeoctl program running; pid=1954
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zenhub program running; pid=1966
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zenping program running; pid=1978
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zensyslog program running; pid=1990
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zenstatus program running; pid=2003
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:05] <iscream> Daemon: zenactions program running; pid=2018
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:07] <iscream> Daemon: zentrap program running; pid=2025
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:09] <iscream> Daemon: zenmodeler program running; pid=2046
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:11] <iscream> Daemon: zenperfsnmp program running; pid=2064
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:13] <iscream> Daemon: zencommand program running; pid=2073
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:15] <iscream> Daemon: zenprocess program running; pid=2090
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:17] <iscream> Daemon: zenwin program running; pid=2100
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:19] <iscream> Daemon: zeneventlog program running; pid=2109
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:21] <iscream> Daemon: zenwinmodeler program running; pid=2118
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:23] <iscream> i think its good
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:30] <cluther_> ok.. zope isn't running. zopectl daemon manager not running
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[11-Jul-2007 10:43:38] <cluther_> You can run "zopectl start" to try to start it.
[11-Jul-2007 10:44:31] <iscream> daemon process started, pid=2711
[11-Jul-2007 10:44:57] <iscream> after that int the status
[11-Jul-2007 10:44:58] <iscream> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager running; daemon process not running
[11-Jul-2007 10:45:26] <cluther_> If you look in $ZENHOME/log/event.log you should be able to see errors.
[11-Jul-2007 10:45:38] <cluther_> Oh.. wait.
[11-Jul-2007 10:45:49] <iscream> ok
[11-Jul-2007 10:46:08] <cluther_> Try this. "rm $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec"
[11-Jul-2007 10:46:16] <cluther_> cluther_: Then run zopectl start again.
[11-Jul-2007 10:46:26] <cluther_> Probably just a corrupt cache.
[11-Jul-2007 10:47:22] <iscream> ohh
[11-Jul-2007 10:47:23] <iscream> thanks
[11-Jul-2007 10:47:24] <iscream>
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[11-Jul-2007 10:58:03] <krunar> Anyone know if zenoss is getting distributed collection nodes anytime soon? Google is giving me rather non trusty worthy answers
[11-Jul-2007 10:59:32] <krunar> for example I'd like to have one node for every site I want to monitor, for example one in london, one in paris and one in tokyo
[11-Jul-2007 11:00:04] <krunar> and then I want them to report to an master server and if that fails become a temporary master server and act alone until the master server can be connected again and sync history with it
[11-Jul-2007 11:03:43] <krunar> or at least keep the data until it can send it to the data layer
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[11-Jul-2007 11:19:10] <iscream> cluther : r u here?:P
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[11-Jul-2007 11:44:20] <Bulwinkle> iscream: what is your problem
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:36] <iscream> im ok now
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:43] <iscream> thanx
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:45] <iscream>
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:51] <iscream> byeby
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[11-Jul-2007 12:19:20] <solarce> krunar: I think you need to go enterprise to get that
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[11-Jul-2007 12:29:51] <krunar> solarce: ok, the code seems to be there, perhaps I'll just get the GUI bit with the enterprise part
[11-Jul-2007 12:30:37] <creiht> krunar: What are you wanting to do?
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[11-Jul-2007 12:32:23] <krunar> creiht: 7:00 < krunar> Anyone know if zenoss is getting distributed collection nodes anytime soon? Google is giving me rather non trusty worthy answers
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:26] <krunar> 17:01 < krunar> for example I'd like to have one node for every site I want to monitor, for example one in london, one in paris and one in tokyo
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:29] <krunar> 17:02 < krunar> and then I want them to report to an master server and if that fails become a temporary master server and act alone until the master server can be connected again and sync history with it
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:33] <krunar> 17:06 < krunar> or at least keep the data until it can send it to the data layer
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:48] <creiht> krunar: You can partly have that
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:08] <krunar> Distributed nodes seems to be possibrle
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:14] <krunar> been looking through the code real quick
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:15] <creiht> It is possible with Zenoss Core to have a master server with distributed collectors
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[11-Jul-2007 12:33:29] <krunar> yes
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:38] <krunar> That would be enough for now.
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:50] <krunar> Any documentation how you go about doing that?
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:03] <creiht> krunar: Yes... let me dig it up for you real quick
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:11] <krunar> thanks!
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:30] <creiht> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:31] <creiht> And download the Zenoss Guide
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:40] <krunar> creiht: Been reading the 2.0
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:48] <creiht> The last time I looked at it, it had a section on how to do it
[11-Jul-2007 12:36:02] <solarce> creiht: yo
[11-Jul-2007 12:36:22] <creiht> solarce: Howdy
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:17] <solarce> creiht: how's tx?
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:32] <creiht> krunar: Hmmm... looking at the 2.0 guide, I can't find that section any more
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:36] <creiht> solarce: Muggy
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:46] <solarce> same here today :/
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:53] <creiht> We just had a huge transformer blow up at work
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:02] <creiht> So I get to work from home today
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:09] <solarce> doh
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:15] <solarce> I hope nothing is down
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:18] <creiht> haha
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:19] <creiht> nah
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:23] <krunar> creiht: ok, I'll have to look into the issue tomorrow! Send som emails and such.
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:43] <creiht> krunar: Check the older version doc as well... it might be there as well
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:59] <creiht> solarce: Our data centers are in separate locations
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:08] <solarce> ah
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:15] <creiht> And we have major battery backup and generators there
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[11-Jul-2007 12:39:30] <krunar> creiht: Of course.
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:38] <creiht> We have a generator for the office
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:41] <solarce> creiht: batteries are old school
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:44] <krunar> Thanks for your help anyway
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:56] <solarce> creiht: self propelling dynamos are hip
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:03] <creiht> solarce: Well the batteries handle the 15 seconds it takes to get the Generators going
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:04] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:22] <solarce> the data center I just had a tour of uses them, it's cool stuff
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:28] <creiht> interesting
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:03] <creiht> I'm on the list of "non-essential" personnel
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:08] <solarce> hehe
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:10] <creiht> so we get sent home
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:21] <creiht> on these occasions
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:37] <solarce> they just don't want to share the emergency beer horde
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[11-Jul-2007 12:42:13] <solarce> oi, I need to learn how to use ms project
[11-Jul-2007 12:42:32] <creiht> krunar: You will want to look at section 13.2 in the 1.1 manual... My guess is that it should still be similar
[11-Jul-2007 12:42:38] <creiht> solarce: doh
[11-Jul-2007 12:42:59] <solarce> I'm buried in projects and it seems to be the tool of choice here
[11-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <solarce> my officeis such a mess :/
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:08] <creiht> doh... We just lost the office generator
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:13] <creiht> This is going to be fun
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:14] <solarce> shit
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:16] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:01] <solarce> bad day to be an admin
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:05] <creiht> haha
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:14] <creiht> Luckily today I am just a programmer
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:20] <solarce> yeah
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[11-Jul-2007 13:49:47] <Bulwinkle> does anyone know what kind of syslog history ZenOSS keeps?
[11-Jul-2007 13:51:15] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: when do you think you'll have some time to walk me through the VLAN / PortChannel separation ZenPack creation?
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[11-Jul-2007 14:07:27] <bzed> cluther_: ping!
[11-Jul-2007 14:11:11] <Bulwinkle> bzed: I think he is buried....
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[11-Jul-2007 14:58:48] <bzed> cluther_: ping
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[11-Jul-2007 15:46:59] <bkingx> Greetings!
[11-Jul-2007 15:47:21] <bkingx> I am having trouble connecting to my new VM install of Zenoss from outside my router.
[11-Jul-2007 15:47:44] <bkingx> I am port-forwarding to 8080 of the local server.
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[11-Jul-2007 15:49:28] <bkingx> Connecting from another machine inside the network to the local IP:8080 works fine.
[11-Jul-2007 15:50:00] <bkingx> However, connecting to the server from the outside, through the forwarded port does not.
[11-Jul-2007 15:50:22] <bkingx> Anyone have any ideas?
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[11-Jul-2007 16:12:23] <StylusEater_Work> does zenoss use snmp, pegasus, or something else?
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[11-Jul-2007 16:17:49] <bkingx> What distro of Linux does the VM use?
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[11-Jul-2007 16:18:51] <bzed> bkingx: rpath
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:02] <bkingx> TY bzed
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:08] <bzed> but I guess that's not your problem
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:28] <bzed> I'm not sure what the problem is, though
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:39] <bzed> never used vmware player for longer than a few minutes
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:53] <bkingx> bzed: nope...I've sidelined that problem for the time being.
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:59] <bkingx> Well, sort of.
[11-Jul-2007 16:20:16] <bkingx> I was going to look in to the files themselves to see if there are some configs I can tweak.
[11-Jul-2007 16:20:38] <bkingx> But not knowing what distro it is or what tools are installed, I didn't know where to start
[11-Jul-2007 16:32:53] <bkingx> YeeHaw! Turned out I didn't have all the settings for a static IP set. Had to specify gateway.
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[11-Jul-2007 18:20:30] <markl__> ok i added a mib for my LSI raid card, and i can snmpwalk the values - but how do i add it to the device (the linux server) so that zenoss can see it?
[11-Jul-2007 18:21:20] <markl__> i hope that i don't have to use traps for this to work, that would be annoying
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[12-Jul-2007 02:23:22] <iscream> hi all
[12-Jul-2007 02:23:26] <iscream> giesen : r u here?
[12-Jul-2007 02:31:14] <iscream> or can anybody help me with heartbeats problems?
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[12-Jul-2007 08:11:15] <iscream> can anybody help me with event commands?
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[12-Jul-2007 08:14:39] <iscream> event commands? anybody???
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[12-Jul-2007 09:05:52] <iscream> hey cluther : i have just one question right now for you if you dont mind:D
[12-Jul-2007 09:06:34] <cluther> iscream: What's up?
[12-Jul-2007 09:07:04] <iscream> i would like to write event commands, i know where can i do it
[12-Jul-2007 09:07:04] <iscream> but
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[12-Jul-2007 09:07:28] <iscream> when i add one, i write in the script etc.... and in the add filter field, its empty
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[12-Jul-2007 09:07:54] <iscream> i cannot scroll down the options just like when i make alert rule, this time its empty
[12-Jul-2007 09:07:59] <iscream> how can i fix it?:S
[12-Jul-2007 09:08:52] <cluther> hmm.. if you click into the field can you navigate it with your up/down arrow keys.
[12-Jul-2007 09:09:35] <iscream> i cannot believe it...
[12-Jul-2007 09:09:49] <iscream> im so nooob
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:10] <cluther> iscream: That is a bug.. you're using Firefox in Windows, right?
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:20] <cluther> iscream: You can use it like that, but it should be a drop-down list.
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:40] <iscream> yeah
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:53] <cluther> ok, thanks. I'll put in a ticket on it.
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good morning, buried today?
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:13] <cluther> This same issue popped up in a different place before.
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:15] <iscream> and dont u know how could i download mibs to the rpath , to monitor the temp?:D
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:32] <iscream> cluther : they dont knew this bug until now?
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:50] <cluther> iscream: right
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:56] <iscream> oh, i see
[12-Jul-2007 09:12:06] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Hopefully not so much as yesterday.
[12-Jul-2007 09:12:55] <Bulwinkle> cluther: if you have some downtime I'd love it if you could walk me through separating out the VLAN and PortChannels on the Switches so I can get rid of all of these blues in my even screen
[12-Jul-2007 09:13:18] <iscream> cluther : thx for everything i hope i will do it from now:P
[12-Jul-2007 09:13:56] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Definitely. Are you going to be around for most of the day
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[12-Jul-2007 09:17:05] <Bulwinkle> Until 4 CST
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[12-Jul-2007 09:21:54] <iscream> bye all
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[12-Jul-2007 09:38:47] <Bulwinkle> cluther: until 4PM CST
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[12-Jul-2007 11:05:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you do a bunch of bouncing up and down on IRC
[12-Jul-2007 11:09:33] <cluther> I connect to a lot of client sites where the VPN client blocks all my other access.
[12-Jul-2007 11:42:31] <bzed> sound slike cisco vpn
[12-Jul-2007 11:45:01] <markw_> cluther: try using vpnc
[12-Jul-2007 12:03:35] <krunar> What Zen daemon is responsible for listening on port 8080(default)
[12-Jul-2007 12:03:59] <krunar> Mine seems to have crashed and all the daemons seems to be runing just fine
[12-Jul-2007 12:05:52] <bzed> zope
[12-Jul-2007 12:06:10] <krunar> Humz, seems to be a problem with vmplayer. Thanks anyway
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[12-Jul-2007 12:18:38] <krunar> I did a portscan on one host, after that it was impossible to access the admin interface(tcp 8080) and rebooting the machine didn't help. Anyone have an clue? (Using the vmplayer image)
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[12-Jul-2007 13:04:38] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do you have time to help with my VLAN/PortChannel deal?
[12-Jul-2007 13:06:12] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Afraid not. Could you post a synposis to the users forum? That way I can post a little guide back when I get the time and more people can benefit from it.
[12-Jul-2007 13:06:28] <Bulwinkle> I posted something
[12-Jul-2007 13:06:43] <cluther> ah, okay. good
[12-Jul-2007 13:07:57] <Bulwinkle> cluther: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2694 ... is that sufficient?
[12-Jul-2007 13:07:57] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Creating ZenPacks? (at community.zenoss.com)
[12-Jul-2007 13:10:21] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Perfect.
[12-Jul-2007 13:10:25] <cluther> thanks
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[12-Jul-2007 13:11:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: thank you! about 4 times a day my event log fills with those damn vlan informational errors. I'll be very pleased when they are gone!
[12-Jul-2007 13:11:45] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I can imagine. It will also end up being a nice guide to one of the many things you can do with ZenPacks.
[12-Jul-2007 13:12:44] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Awesome.... I'd love to know much more about that in general since it looks like this will be going production soon. How often are ZenOSS classes held?
[12-Jul-2007 13:14:20] <cluther> Bulwinkle: The plan is monthly going forward, but it will depend on demand.
[12-Jul-2007 13:14:41] <Bulwinkle> cluther: are you going to be an instructor?
[12-Jul-2007 13:14:47] <cluther> yes
[12-Jul-2007 13:15:48] <cluther> We're having one the week after next.
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[12-Jul-2007 15:53:30] <rdb_> I'm getting this Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database: "Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database" then "unable to create the initial Zenoss object database" -- Any tips for me?
[12-Jul-2007 15:56:34] <Bulwinkle> rdb_: have you looked out in the forums?
[12-Jul-2007 15:57:11] <Bulwinkle> http://community.zenoss.com/forums
[12-Jul-2007 15:58:55] <rdb_> I googled, doesn't that count? ;-) I'll check
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[12-Jul-2007 16:08:04] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone help with bash scripting here (I know it's off topic, just smart people come here ;-) )
[12-Jul-2007 16:10:36] <waldo323> what are you trying to do?
[12-Jul-2007 16:12:03] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to get files renamed. example - file1.1 file1.2 file1.3 should be come file1.2 file1.3 file1.4 . I'm trying to do it in a do while loop but I can't get the $i to change from the number it's currently to +1.
[12-Jul-2007 16:12:59] <waldo323> whats the statement you are using to increment $i?
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:49] <MoreDakka_> That's the part that I don't know. This is what I'm trying:
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> BACKUPS=3
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> for ((i=1; i <= BACKUPS ; i++))
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> do
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> FILE=`ls /tmp/test/*.$i`
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> mv -f /tmp/test/$FILE /tmp/test/${FILE.$1}".changed"
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:54] <MoreDakka_> done
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:56] <MoreDakka_> echo; echo
[12-Jul-2007 16:14:18] <MoreDakka_> oops. The .changed should be something like .$++
[12-Jul-2007 16:14:24] <MoreDakka_> .$i++
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[12-Jul-2007 16:19:22] <The_Man> Anyone have any WMI experience with zenoss
[12-Jul-2007 16:20:55] <lburton> When you add a process, zenoss doesn't find it on devices.. unless I remove/add the device, is there a way to "refresh/rescan" a device, or better yet, all devices, so that processes show up.. or am I just impatient, and It will automatically periodically?
[12-Jul-2007 16:23:13] <waldo323> in a test, i used a variable num=1, then next=$((i+num)) so $next would be i+1
[12-Jul-2007 16:24:10] <waldo323> does that work for you?
[12-Jul-2007 16:24:12] <MoreDakka_> Ah, sweet, I'll give that a try.
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[12-Jul-2007 16:41:23] <MoreDakka_> Sweet, that works. Now I just need to fix the rest of the script ;-) Thanks Waldo :-D
[12-Jul-2007 16:42:19] <waldo323> your welcome
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[12-Jul-2007 17:31:10] <jbsnake> any idea how to make the alerts more responsive in 2.0?
[12-Jul-2007 17:31:43] <jbsnake> like... instead of having a downtime of up to 5 minutes, know almost instantly that a machine isn't pinging
[12-Jul-2007 17:34:21] <waldo323> i'm just starting to use zenoss, but it looks like you can change the thresholds and how you are notified
[12-Jul-2007 17:38:31] <MoreDakka_> What is the count at on the alert?
[12-Jul-2007 17:38:41] <MoreDakka_> (I'm using v1.1.1 so I don't know if it's the same or not)
[12-Jul-2007 17:42:36] <waldo323> in the preferences there is an alerting section
[12-Jul-2007 17:42:55] <MoreDakka_> Hmm...different then 1.1.1 then
[12-Jul-2007 17:44:18] <waldo323> 'alerting rules' so you could define what the alert checks for including production state, severity, event state and then you can add filters so you just get what you need
[12-Jul-2007 17:46:11] <jbsnake> i have all that set... i'm more worried about how frequently it checks for events
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[12-Jul-2007 17:48:44] <lburton> jbsnake: are you worried about the machine going down or a service on the machine, because having the snmpd on the machine poke zenoss would be the _quickest/best_ if thats the case.. if not.. no clue (I'm no zenoss expert)
[12-Jul-2007 17:55:53] <Stravad> is it possible for zenoss to write snmp polled values directly to a relational DB instead of using RRD?
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[12-Jul-2007 18:12:06] <jbsnake> is there not a way to alter the interval that it polls the server for say "/Status/Ping" event?
[12-Jul-2007 18:12:52] <jbsnake> and once it sees that the event was triggered... send out an email right then?
[12-Jul-2007 18:13:54] <MoreDakka_> Is there a selection for Event Class?
[12-Jul-2007 18:14:06] <MoreDakka_> /Status/Ping should be in there
[12-Jul-2007 18:16:46] <jbsnake> ya... but i can't alter the interval... the only thing i can alter is the severity
[12-Jul-2007 18:17:05] <MoreDakka_> Can you add Filters?
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:16] <jbsnake> yes
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:21] <jbsnake> but not there
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:26] <jbsnake> zCollectorClientTimeout
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:32] <jbsnake> would that have anything to do with it?
[12-Jul-2007 18:20:07] <MoreDakka_> Sorry, I don't have that in v1.1.1....not sure how to get your problem fixed then sorry.
[12-Jul-2007 18:20:28] <jbsnake> it's ok.. it's going to wait until tomorrow.. it's quitten' time
[12-Jul-2007 18:20:34] <jbsnake> thanks anyway
[12-Jul-2007 18:24:20] <waldo323> maybe the daemon config for zenping? (something to look into tomorrow) or is that just what to monitor?
[12-Jul-2007 18:26:54] <waldo323> have a good day, i gtg
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[12-Jul-2007 19:07:16] <guyverix> Does anyone on here know of a safe way to update RRDtool?
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[13-Jul-2007 05:25:19] <iscream> bzed : hy ! can you tell me, how could i use shared directories, to "give" some files from windows to linux on a vmware workstation?
[13-Jul-2007 05:25:51] <bzed> iscream: is that a one time job or do you need that always?
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:10] <iscream> bzed : it would be fine one time
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:16] <bzed> use use scp
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:37] <iscream> whatis scp?
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:41] <bzed> for example the command line client you can download on the putty page
[13-Jul-2007 05:27:41] <iscream> i download it to my windows, and... what should i do in the linux to copy the files from windows to virtual os?
[13-Jul-2007 05:28:27] <bzed> you need a ssh server running
[13-Jul-2007 05:28:38] <bzed> you don;t know scp on linux?
[13-Jul-2007 05:28:45] <iscream> not yet
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[13-Jul-2007 06:26:55] <jcsilla> hi zenoss!
[13-Jul-2007 06:27:54] <jcsilla> I have a question about system perfomance of zenoss project
[13-Jul-2007 06:28:28] <jcsilla> is there anybody out there!?
[13-Jul-2007 06:29:59] <iscream> hello csilla, helyzet?
[13-Jul-2007 06:30:21] <jcsilla> hello?
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[13-Jul-2007 06:30:29] <jcsilla> helyzet?
[13-Jul-2007 06:30:38] <jcsilla> what do you meant?
[13-Jul-2007 06:30:44] <iscream> nothing
[13-Jul-2007 06:31:11] <jcsilla> opk
[13-Jul-2007 06:31:53] <jcsilla> so... we have a zenoss installation on a dell server with 1.5G of RAM...
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:15] <jcsilla> it is normal that zenoss eats all the system memory?
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:24] <iscream> no
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:48] <knutin> it's normal for a linux machine to use all the memory
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:58] <knutin> because it caches files and stuff
[13-Jul-2007 06:34:05] <jcsilla> ok, but we ran few aplications on it. just zenoss, an remote syslog from network devices..
[13-Jul-2007 06:34:48] <knutin> is the machine swapping?
[13-Jul-2007 06:34:50] <jcsilla> and python consumes too much memory.
[13-Jul-2007 06:35:51] <jcsilla> few days ago we have just 512Mb and then it swaps continiusly...
[13-Jul-2007 06:36:05] <jcsilla> 4221 zenoss 15 0 1324m 872m 2456 S 3 57.4 127:12.80 python
[13-Jul-2007 06:36:12] <jcsilla> Mem: 1555336k total, 1521088k used, 34248k free, 34352k buffers
[13-Jul-2007 06:36:13] <jcsilla> Swap: 979924k total, 780420k used, 199504k free, 303980k cached
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[13-Jul-2007 06:37:43] <jcsilla> we dont monitor any M$ windows, nor IP service, just snmp with arround 38 network devices
[13-Jul-2007 06:37:50] <knutin> woah
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:02] <knutin> one process uses over 50% of the memory?
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:32] <jcsilla> yes!
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:36] <knutin> I'm not familiar with zenoss, but a restart of that process could be smart
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:50] <bzed> jcsilla: which python version and distribution are you running?
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:07] <jcsilla> ubuntu..6.10
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:11] <bzed> jcsilla: and which process eats so much memory
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:12] <bzed> ?
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:26] <bzed> ps -Af | grep 4221
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python-dev 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 Header files and a static library for Python
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python-minimal 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 A minimal subset of the Python language (def
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python2.4 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:32] <jcsilla> ii python2.4-dev 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 Header files and a static library for Python
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:35] <jcsilla> ii python2.4-minimal 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 A minimal subset of the Python language (ver
[13-Jul-2007 06:40:24] <bzed> that should be fine, although I'm not sure if there're differences between the debian and the ubuntu version of py...
[13-Jul-2007 06:40:43] <jcsilla> zenoss 4221 1 8 Jul12 ? 02:07:17 /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python /usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/zenmodeler.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zenmodeler.conf --cycle --daemon
[13-Jul-2007 06:41:50] <bzed> I'd restart it
[13-Jul-2007 06:41:55] <bzed> should nto eat so much memory
[13-Jul-2007 06:42:39] <bzed> you can do it under settings -> daemons
[13-Jul-2007 06:42:43] <jcsilla> if we restart, time to time memory of that process raises
[13-Jul-2007 06:43:10] <jcsilla> setting -> daemons ? inside zenoss you meant?
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:22] <bzed> yeah
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:26] <jcsilla> here we had stopped zenprocess, zenwin, zenwinmodeler and zensyslog
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:47] <bzed> or bin/zenmodeler restart I think.
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:59] <jcsilla> ok.
[13-Jul-2007 06:45:17] <bzed> never played with it really. I'm more happy my debian package just works fine yet
[13-Jul-2007 06:45:23] <bzed> there'll be ubuntu packages, too
[13-Jul-2007 06:45:36] <bzed> but first it has to be finished and go into debian
[13-Jul-2007 06:47:10] <jcsilla> I usually install debian... we are testing ubuntu server...
[13-Jul-2007 06:49:19] <jcsilla> so, in your opinion it is a distro issue?
[13-Jul-2007 06:50:36] <jcsilla> we dont install any .deb for zenoss, we just download tgz from zenoss site
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[13-Jul-2007 06:51:34] <jcsilla> and.. restarting the process frees 1Gb of ram memory.. but as time goes by it raises again.
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[13-Jul-2007 06:54:54] <bzed> jcsilla: no clue if it's a distro issue
[13-Jul-2007 06:55:44] <bzed> jcsilla: if you have some time, you could test the debian pacakging - just don;'t run it in production yet.
[13-Jul-2007 07:00:38] <jcsilla> ok thank you for the advice...
[13-Jul-2007 07:01:17] <jcsilla> bye
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[13-Jul-2007 07:02:34] <bzed> hmm, without knowing how, you can;t test it
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[13-Jul-2007 09:37:13] <jbsnake_> how frequently does zenoss poll servers checking for events?
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[13-Jul-2007 11:12:48] <slarson> Can anybody tell me how to make zenoss not go crazy about my /dev filesystems being full?
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[13-Jul-2007 12:43:08] <monrad> anyone seen zenhub givning AssertionError
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[13-Jul-2007 13:20:59] <jbsnake_> Anyone know how to allow ZenMonitor to acknowledge events?
[13-Jul-2007 13:21:42] <jbsnake_> I have tried the manage_access and allowed ZenMonitor that way, but the option to acknowledge still isn't present... any suggestions?
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[13-Jul-2007 18:02:08] <rhar> so I'm running the zenoss vmware virtual appliance and I'm trying to create a new template so that I can graph the disk IO of my SAN. I add the two OID's as data sources, but when I try to create the graph the data sources multi select box is empty. Am I missing something here?
[13-Jul-2007 18:02:21] <rhar> oh btw this is version 2.0
[13-Jul-2007 18:04:14] <rhar> ah nvm
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[16-Jul-2007 02:47:10] <iscream> can someone help me with temperature monitoring?
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[16-Jul-2007 04:27:53] <iscream_> how could i install plugins for my zenoss?
[16-Jul-2007 04:28:02] <iscream_> how can i install plugins for my zenoss?
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[16-Jul-2007 05:48:45] <iscream> why couldnt i add custom thresholds?
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[16-Jul-2007 08:20:04] <Bulwinkle> good morning all
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[16-Jul-2007 08:29:55] <iscream> hy
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[16-Jul-2007 08:51:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Good morning!
[16-Jul-2007 08:51:12] <cluther> Hope you had a good weekend.
[16-Jul-2007 08:52:03] <cluther> I finally posted a response to that forum topic. http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2694
[16-Jul-2007 08:52:03] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Creating ZenPacks? (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Jul-2007 09:01:51] <jp10558> I'm using 1.1.1 and without any real warning zenactions has died
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:02] <jp10558> I've tried restarting it, but it just stays down
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:16] <jp10558> the log abruptly ends:
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:18] <jp10558> 2007-07-13 07:31:56 INFO zen.ZenActions: processed 4 rules in 0.04 secs
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:18] <jp10558> 2007-07-
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:23] <jp10558> any ideas?
[16-Jul-2007 09:04:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good weekend... I checked that post I put up there about an hour ago and there wasn't a response... Your fingers must have been burning
[16-Jul-2007 09:04:55] <cluther> jp10558: Try running it in the foreground with "zenactions run -v 10"
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:EventClassInst=Start
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:update status set clearid = '0adb4fee358eb851fffffff' where device='mp183.lns.cornell.edu' and component='zenactions' and eventKey='' and (eventClass='/App/Stop' or eventClass='/App/Start'): --> 0
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:insert into log (evid, userName, text) select evid, "admin", "auto cleared" from status where clearid = "0adb4fee358eb851fffffff": --> 0
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:insert into history set Location='',prodState=1000,firstTime=1184591183.935,severity=0,component='zenactions',DeviceGroups='|',summary='zenactions started',dedupid='mp183.lns.cornell.edu|zenactions|/App/Start||0|zenactions started',manager='mp183.lns.cornell.edu',DeviceClass='/Server/Linux/RedHat',device='mp183.lns.cornell.edu',eventClass='/App/Start',lastTime=1184591183.935,Systems='|',message='zenactions
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:12] <jp10558> started',eventKey='',deletedTime=null,evid='0adb4fee358eb851fffffff': --> 1
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:14] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:DELETE FROM status WHERE clearid IS NOT NULL: --> 0
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:16] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Schedule:Maintenance window stopping Database Backup for pc49.lns.cornell.edu
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:18] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Schedule:Waiting 60811.141984 seconds
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:20] <jp10558> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:22] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 503, in ?
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:24] <jp10558> za.run()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:26] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 376, in run
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:28] <jp10558> self.schedule.run()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:30] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 69, in run
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:32] <jp10558> self.runEvents()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:34] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 117, in runEvents
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:36] <jp10558> self.commit()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:38] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 120, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:40] <jp10558> transaction.commit()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:42] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_manager.py", line 84, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:44] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 381, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:46] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 379, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:48] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 427, in _commitResources
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:50] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py", line 637, in tpc_vote
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:52] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 892, in tpc_vote
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:54] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ServerStub.py", line 235, in vote
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:56] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zrpc/connection.py", line 536, in call
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:58] <jp10558> IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:00] <jp10558> Mmm, so I'm out of HD space?
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:02] <jp10558> is that what that means
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:25] <cluther> jp10558: It would appear so.. wherever you have your $ZENHOME/var
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:45] <jp10558> ahh, ok
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:46] <jp10558> thanks
[16-Jul-2007 09:09:57] <iscream> cluther : hy, i may have found another bug, or something like it
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[16-Jul-2007 09:53:56] <Bulwinkle> can't you beat people for pasting directly to channel?
[16-Jul-2007 09:55:30] <tty01> anyone know the reason why zenmodeler keeps dying
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[16-Jul-2007 09:56:09] <rodeoclown> we have the same problem with zenmodeler, dies at least once everyday
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[16-Jul-2007 09:58:44] <tty01> well at least good to know i aint the only one
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[16-Jul-2007 10:49:39] <Bulwinkle> cluther: can I run something by you on that ZenPack you posted on?
[16-Jul-2007 10:52:13] <cluther> Bulwinkle: sure
[16-Jul-2007 10:53:15] <Bulwinkle> where I break out the interface description with the if statement, then the else for everything else, can I just put another if statement to break out the VLAN type too?
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[16-Jul-2007 10:54:57] <cluther> You could.. it would be an elif in python
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[16-Jul-2007 10:55:58] <Lxy> can anyone help me with setting up Net-SNMP on Windows?
[16-Jul-2007 10:56:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: are those all case sensative?
[16-Jul-2007 10:56:14] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: what problems are you having?
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[16-Jul-2007 10:56:42] <Lxy> it doesn't appear that snmpd is installing properly. I don't have an snmpd.conf file to set up things like community strings
[16-Jul-2007 10:56:58] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm thinking about expanding the ZenPack to be an all inclusive Cisco interface thing....
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:07] <Lxy> I registered the agent service and the service is running
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:14] <Lxy> as well as the trap service
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:25] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: any particular reason you need to use NET-snmp?
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:40] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: rather than Windows SNMP service?
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:46] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, based on the info at hand it looked to be the preferred open source SNMP agent for Windows
[16-Jul-2007 10:58:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: They are case sensitive.
[16-Jul-2007 10:58:21] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: I'm running the Windows SNMP with all of my boxes and with the SNMP Informant installed and everything is lovely
[16-Jul-2007 10:58:59] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, are you able to poll things like RAID controller stats, free disk space, etc using the Windows SNMP agent?
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: coolio.... I'm going to create another group under network /Device/Network/Cisco then /Router and /CatalystSwitch and /IOSSwitch...
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:51] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Sounds good, but you could actually use that map as a completely replacement for the standard InterfaceMap.
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:58] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: I'm not polling RAID controller stats (don't know about that) but I'm polling Disk space/Memory/CPU stuff like that
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:58] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It wouldn't have any adverse effects.
[16-Jul-2007 11:00:17] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, is that all done by adding MIBs to the agent?
[16-Jul-2007 11:00:23] <Bulwinkle> cluther: since my monitoring is rather Cisco-centric, it probably wouldn't hurt
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:09] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: all you need to do is install the SNMP Informant..... www.informant-systems.com (standard version)
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:29] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: a lot easier than trying all of that suff with Net-SNMP on M$
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:36] <Lxy> ok
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:44] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: you can get it working, don't get me wrong, just a hassle....
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:51] <Bulwinkle> IMHO
[16-Jul-2007 11:02:02] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, I can see that :-)
[16-Jul-2007 11:02:19] <Lxy> the documetnation is quite lacking, and I'm so new to SNMP that very little of it makes any sense
[16-Jul-2007 11:02:22] <Bulwinkle> cluther, let me see how it goes
[16-Jul-2007 11:03:14] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: I've gotten it working before, but for ZenOSS's purposes SNMP informant is all you really need....
[16-Jul-2007 11:03:31] <Lxy> cool
[16-Jul-2007 11:03:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'll let you know how I get along in a bit, thanks again for all of your help in advance
[16-Jul-2007 11:04:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Great. Good luck.
[16-Jul-2007 11:05:10] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, does the SysInformant/ZenOSS setup fully support SNMPv3?
[16-Jul-2007 11:06:19] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: that is SNMP dependent (Windows SNMP) I don't know if it does.... It should
[16-Jul-2007 11:06:59] <Lxy> ok
[16-Jul-2007 11:20:33] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, I have the SNMP agent and Sys Informant installed. I have the box added to ZenOSS. By default, it doesn't seem to come up with very much info. Is that a function of the MIBs on the Windows box or is there ZenOOS configuration that needs to be done to show thingslike how much RAM is installed, ect
[16-Jul-2007 11:21:01] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: that is a ZenOSS function.....
[16-Jul-2007 11:21:21] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: if you know the OIDs I can walk you through adding in the information you want.
[16-Jul-2007 11:24:53] <Lxy> I don't know any of the OIDs off hand
[16-Jul-2007 11:28:06] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: My memory installed shows up under the Hardware TAB
[16-Jul-2007 11:29:32] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, I have no information under the Hardware tab
[16-Jul-2007 11:29:50] <Lxy> memory is listed as unknwon
[16-Jul-2007 11:30:09] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: is this a device you just added or did you add it before it had SNMP Informant loaded?
[16-Jul-2007 11:30:23] <Lxy> I had it added previously, then I deleted it
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[16-Jul-2007 11:32:15] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: then you re-added after installing SNMP Informant?
[16-Jul-2007 11:32:28] <Lxy> yes
[16-Jul-2007 11:32:45] <Bulwinkle> Lxy do you have anything under the Perf tab?
[16-Jul-2007 11:33:15] <Lxy> no
[16-Jul-2007 11:33:30] <Bulwinkle> status tab?
[16-Jul-2007 11:33:55] <Lxy> very minimal inforamation under Status
[16-Jul-2007 11:34:01] <Bulwinkle> what does the SNMP sysName say?
[16-Jul-2007 11:34:24] <Lxy> BRIGHTSTOR, which is the name of my box
[16-Jul-2007 11:34:56] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: did you uninstall the net-snmp stuff?
[16-Jul-2007 11:35:02] <Lxy> yes
[16-Jul-2007 11:35:49] <Bulwinkle> click on the pulldown tab next to status and hit Model again
[16-Jul-2007 11:36:26] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do I need to restart something after I do all of those changes?
[16-Jul-2007 11:37:09] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, did that, no change
[16-Jul-2007 11:38:17] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You do need to restart zope.
[16-Jul-2007 11:38:49] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I did that once to pick up the CiscoInterfaceMap (thats what I named it)
[16-Jul-2007 11:41:22] <cluther> Once you set your plugin to be used for the device class, you only have to remodel the device.
[16-Jul-2007 11:41:27] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: can you go to the console on the ZenOSS server and do a snmpwalk -c *YOURCOMMUNITY* -v2c *DEVICEIP* system
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[16-Jul-2007 11:42:04] <Bulwinkle> cluther: thats what I was hoping for
[16-Jul-2007 11:43:42] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, done
[16-Jul-2007 11:44:40] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: can you copy it to a pastebin?
[16-Jul-2007 11:44:59] <Lxy> sure, hang on
[16-Jul-2007 11:46:36] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do I have to restart zope any time I make a change to that InterfaceMap.py in my Zenpack?
[16-Jul-2007 11:48:19] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, http://www.pastebin.ca/621983
[16-Jul-2007 11:48:19] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 621983 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[16-Jul-2007 11:48:53] <bzed> Bulwinkle: in general you ahve to restart zope if you change a product, except you run it in debug mode (which can be _slow_)
[16-Jul-2007 11:49:36] <Bulwinkle> bzed: guess I should stop fatfingering my stuff then
[16-Jul-2007 11:52:46] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: can you go to the console on the ZenOSS server and do a snmpget -c *YOURCOMMUNITY* -v2c *DEVICEIP* .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.0
[16-Jul-2007 11:52:55] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: let me know what it returns
[16-Jul-2007 11:54:59] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when you get a sec I have a couple of quick questions again
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[16-Jul-2007 11:56:15] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: when you get a sec I have a couple of quick questions again
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[16-Jul-2007 12:01:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: The types for the interfaces I specified startswith should show up as the om.type values correct? Now all of my interface types are coming back as unknown......
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[16-Jul-2007 12:05:46] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: you still there?
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[16-Jul-2007 12:12:03] <cluther_> Bulwinkle: The startswith is actually looking at the name of the interface. The next line is the one that sets the type.
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[16-Jul-2007 12:18:19] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: they are all coming back as unknown now, even the fastethernets
[16-Jul-2007 12:27:58] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: any ideas?
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[16-Jul-2007 12:32:38] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, sorry about that, stepped out for a few
[16-Jul-2007 12:34:32] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, get a "no such variable name in this MIB" error
[16-Jul-2007 12:34:48] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: looks like the SNMP informant isn't loaded
[16-Jul-2007 12:35:16] <Lxy> ok
[16-Jul-2007 12:35:27] <Lxy> any good ways to check over the config?
[16-Jul-2007 12:35:43] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: should show up in the Add/Remove programs as SNMP Informant Agent
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:09] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, yes
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:21] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: Its there?
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:25] <Lxy> yes it is
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:55] <Bulwinkle> hrm.... Seems to work fine on all of my servers. Try restarting your SNMP services
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[16-Jul-2007 12:38:09] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, restarted SNMP, snmpget still gives the same error
[16-Jul-2007 12:40:30] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: Well I've given you the same steps I used... I'd post to the forums
[16-Jul-2007 12:41:05] <Lxy> alright, thanks
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[16-Jul-2007 12:41:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: man I'
[16-Jul-2007 12:42:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: man I'd really wish you'd stick with one NICK
[16-Jul-2007 12:43:33] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you listening on this nick now?
[16-Jul-2007 12:43:50] <cluther> yeah
[16-Jul-2007 12:44:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: The types for the interfaces I specified startswith should show up as the om.type values correct? Now all of my interface types are coming back as unknown......
[16-Jul-2007 12:45:53] <cluther> ok.. I missed the pastebin of your InterfaceMap if you sent it. Could you resend?
[16-Jul-2007 12:46:43] <bzed> cluther: do you know anybody who's willing to test eh debian packages?
[16-Jul-2007 12:46:49] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I pasted the part I edited in the Forum
[16-Jul-2007 12:47:23] <bzed> cluther: I'm waiting for zenoss 2.0.3 at least, and I'll probably move to zope 2.10 before they'll be uploaded to debian, but it would be good if somebody would test them
[16-Jul-2007 12:47:43] <Bulwinkle> cluther: or you can look in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/141777
[16-Jul-2007 12:47:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
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[16-Jul-2007 12:50:46] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Maybe there is a problem with the indentation. You don't have any tabs in there, right?
[16-Jul-2007 12:51:11] <Bulwinkle> cluther: oh yeah, matching evertything up, just before the commands
[16-Jul-2007 12:53:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: getting rid of them and modeling again (after zope restart)
[16-Jul-2007 12:54:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: nothing, Guess I should return it to stock and see what happens....
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[16-Jul-2007 13:00:18] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeppers.... still unknown.... man, I don't know if I'm following any of your instructions anymore
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[16-Jul-2007 13:03:20] <Bulwinkle> jeez
[16-Jul-2007 13:03:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: yeppers.... still unknown.... man, I don't know if I'm following any of your instructions anymore
[16-Jul-2007 13:07:28] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: I'll go back to the way things were until I can have some time with you
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[16-Jul-2007 13:39:23] <Stravad> does zenoss keep track of raw data in the DB or does it aggregate everything into RRDs?
[16-Jul-2007 13:41:09] <creiht> Stravad: It uses RRDs, it uses the Zope DB for configuration, and MySQL for events
[16-Jul-2007 13:42:51] <Stravad> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:13] <solarce> better brush up on your rrd parsing
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:14] <Stravad> I have some data I want to track in a lossless fashion
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:27] <creiht> Stravad: For how long?
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:30] <Stravad> eternally
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:46] <solarce> creiht: gotta love those unlimited storage budgets
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:55] <Stravad> yup
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:57] <creiht> haha
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:11] <creiht> Stravad: How many data points?
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:19] <solarce> Stravad: maybe you can put a hook in the code that writes the rrd to also shove it into the db?
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:21] <Stravad> long term quite a few
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:26] <Stravad> solarce: kinda what I was thinking
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:36] <solarce> behold the power of open sores!
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:40] <Stravad> indeed
[16-Jul-2007 13:45:04] <Stravad> I've been banging my head against the wall that is cacti, trying to get it to do my bidding, but I'm allergic to php so that whole experience has been ... subpar.
[16-Jul-2007 13:45:38] <creiht> Stravad: Do you need all the same graphing and everything long term?
[16-Jul-2007 13:46:19] <creiht> or just the data?
[16-Jul-2007 13:46:24] <Stravad> what do you mean when you ask 'all the same'? Do I need to be able to graph said data points long term? yes, but there's packages out there that make it pretty straight forward to chart stuff out of a DB.
[16-Jul-2007 13:47:09] <creiht> Stravad: Yeah... that is what I was getting at... It would be fairly trivial to pull the data periodically from the RRD and put in a more long term storage
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[16-Jul-2007 14:52:17] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I've gone back to my original config until you have time to look at my issues
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[16-Jul-2007 15:05:05] <WS_> Are any of you guys using a ubuntu 6.10 setup?
[16-Jul-2007 15:05:24] <WS_> I'm having problems with apache mod_rewrite
[16-Jul-2007 15:06:08] <WS_> I had the default apache install backed up default virtual host, and rewrote it, now when I try to access zenoss via port 80 it gives me a 403 forbidden
[16-Jul-2007 15:13:21] <Bulwinkle> WS_: shouldn't you be accessing it over 8080?
[16-Jul-2007 15:13:36] <WS_> yes but I was using mod_rewrite to access via 80
[16-Jul-2007 15:13:46] <WS_> with apache
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:09] <WS_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setup-zenoss-with-apache/
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:12] <WS_> with ubuntu 6.10 the configuration is supposed to be a bit different
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:42] <WS_> http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/plone-apache/virtualhost
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:42] <WS_> so I used that config to overwrite the default virtual host on apache
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:55] <WS_> and changed the http rewrite line to be the same as the zenoss documentation
[16-Jul-2007 15:15:45] <WS_> this is my first time ever using rewrite to change ports
[16-Jul-2007 15:15:55] <WS_> I'm more accustomed to clean urls
[16-Jul-2007 15:17:34] <bzed> WS_: you need to configure apache's proxy module
[16-Jul-2007 15:18:35] <WS_>
[16-Jul-2007 15:19:10] <WS_> do you know which proxy module?
[16-Jul-2007 15:19:13] <WS_> proxy_http?
[16-Jul-2007 15:20:57] <bzed> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/proxy.conf
[16-Jul-2007 15:21:07] <WS_> are you using a similar setup?
[16-Jul-2007 15:21:40] <bzed> yes
[16-Jul-2007 15:21:57] <bzed> but not for zenoss
[16-Jul-2007 15:22:35] <WS_> very interesting
[16-Jul-2007 15:23:57] <WS_> now it's trying to rewrite to https
[16-Jul-2007 15:24:29] <WS_> https://syslog.telelanguage.local/zport/acl_users/cookieAuthHelper/login_form?came_from=https%3A//syslog.telelanguage.local/zport/dmd
[16-Jul-2007 15:24:29] <WS_> crazy
[16-Jul-2007 15:27:24] <WS_> no more https, but now it's having some kind of cookie issue
[16-Jul-2007 15:27:29] <WS_> I think I'm going to stick with 8080 for now
[16-Jul-2007 15:27:45] <WS_> might change the port with the firewall and only access it externally
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[16-Jul-2007 15:28:56] <bzed> WS_: sounds more liek you want to learn how to use apache properly.
[16-Jul-2007 15:29:31] <WS_> or atleast apache's modules
[16-Jul-2007 15:29:36] <WS_> I usually have no problems with apache
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[16-Jul-2007 15:30:02] <WS_> I've never messed with mod_proxy before or rewriting ports
[16-Jul-2007 15:30:15] <WS_> I've used nginx for proxy before
[16-Jul-2007 15:31:43] <bzed> WS_: http://paste.debian.net/32857
[16-Jul-2007 15:31:43] <adytum-bot> Title: #debian.de paste zone (at paste.debian.net)
[16-Jul-2007 15:33:07] <WS_> does proxy.conf need to be in enabled to or just available?
[16-Jul-2007 15:35:13] <bzed> run a2enmod proxy_http
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:10] <WS_> I got it working
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:19] <Rumpkie> greetings
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:21] <WS_> thanks for the help
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:34] <WS_> now to update from 1.x to 2.x
[16-Jul-2007 15:39:07] <WS_> one of the things I did was changed it from fqdn to ip
[16-Jul-2007 15:39:20] <WS_> I did a few things before the restart, one was changing it to your conf
[16-Jul-2007 15:40:51] <Rumpkie> got a question for you all.... Im rather new to linux and Im trying to install Zenoss on new FC6 install I followed instruction and all the zenoss processes are running but I cannot reach the web interface
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:24] <WS_> on port 8080?
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:34] <Rumpkie> correct
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:44] <Rumpkie> and it is enabled on the firewall
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:55] <Rumpkie> but I can't even get to it throught the loopback
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:58] <WS_> can you access it from localhost?
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:04] <Rumpkie> no
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:09] <WS_> lynx localhost:8080
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:09] <WS_> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:18] <WS_> I'm not a fedora user :S
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:58] <WS_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss I followed this install a while back
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[16-Jul-2007 15:44:30] <Rumpkie> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 15:44:41] <Rumpkie> well I used the RPM install
[16-Jul-2007 15:45:32] <Rumpkie> and MySQL is started
[16-Jul-2007 15:50:27] <Rumpkie> although apachÃ��Ã�© was not
[16-Jul-2007 15:52:38] <Rumpkie> no effect though
[16-Jul-2007 15:52:47] <Rumpkie> still nothing :-(
[16-Jul-2007 15:58:42] <Rumpkie> anybody else have any ideas?
[16-Jul-2007 15:59:56] <bzed> you don't need apache
[16-Jul-2007 16:00:01] <bzed> but ideas - no.
[16-Jul-2007 16:01:47] <Rumpkie> oui
[16-Jul-2007 16:01:58] <Rumpkie> well is there anyway I can tell where things are falling apart?
[16-Jul-2007 16:02:19] <Rumpkie> like a log someplace of what is and or isn't getting initialized?
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[16-Jul-2007 16:08:59] <bzed> Rumpkie: sorry, I have no clue how the rpm works. try to poke cluther when he is around
[16-Jul-2007 16:17:35] <maff> is it possible to model an entire group of devices at the same time
[16-Jul-2007 16:20:35] <Rumpkie> ok well thanks for you input
[16-Jul-2007 16:23:01] <Rumpkie> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 16:23:05] <Rumpkie> well it works now
[16-Jul-2007 16:24:23] <Rumpkie> I think there was somthing wrong with the firewall
[16-Jul-2007 16:24:40] <Rumpkie> that and I placed my sleg hammer on top of the computer and had a few words with it
[16-Jul-2007 16:24:45] <Rumpkie> .... ok thanks guys
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[16-Jul-2007 16:30:20] <maj> i cant get service monitoring to work at all... it keeps saying service OK all the time, no matter if its up or down
[16-Jul-2007 16:30:32] <maj> anything i should look at?
[16-Jul-2007 16:38:21] <maj> anybody?
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[16-Jul-2007 16:42:34] <F350> hello
[16-Jul-2007 16:42:55] <F350> need some help for an issue
[16-Jul-2007 16:43:09] <F350> i already posted my problem on the forum
[16-Jul-2007 16:43:47] <F350> did not get an answer, i tought maybe in the irc i will get it
[16-Jul-2007 16:44:35] <F350> lot of people here... everybody sleeping ?
[16-Jul-2007 16:48:10] <F350> zzzzz
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[16-Jul-2007 16:50:24] <monrad> any release today?
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[16-Jul-2007 16:55:18] <F350> anyone here ?
[16-Jul-2007 16:56:05] <maj> ya
[16-Jul-2007 16:56:10] <maj> trying to get help too
[16-Jul-2007 16:57:27] <F350> what is ur problem, maybe i can help
[16-Jul-2007 16:58:21] <maj> i cant get service monitoring to work at all... it keeps saying service OK all the time, no matter if its up or down
[16-Jul-2007 16:58:53] <maj> i am running the vmware appliance image
[16-Jul-2007 17:00:27] <F350> did u check ur logs ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:01:55] <maj> i don't see anything unusual
[16-Jul-2007 17:02:24] <maj> do i need any special packs installed onto the appliance to monitor IP services
[16-Jul-2007 17:02:25] <maj> ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:02:47] <bzed> maj: no, the vmware image should just work
[16-Jul-2007 17:03:01] <bzed> is the first start finished allready?
[16-Jul-2007 17:03:54] <maj> first start of zenoss?
[16-Jul-2007 17:04:15] <bzed> of the vmware image
[16-Jul-2007 17:05:18] <maj> yup
[16-Jul-2007 17:05:32] <maj> i've restarted it a few times
[16-Jul-2007 17:07:40] <maj> where does it log by default
[16-Jul-2007 17:07:41] <maj> ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:07:53] <bzed> no clue, never used it
[16-Jul-2007 17:08:08] <bzed> maj: try to ask cluther, he knows it
[16-Jul-2007 17:08:31] <maj> oh, nm, i found it.. lemme look at zenstatus logs
[16-Jul-2007 17:09:14] <F350> have too a queqtion if someone can help
[16-Jul-2007 17:09:37] <F350> have a prob in event viewer since i upgraded to 2.0.2
[16-Jul-2007 17:09:47] <maj> hrm, may be i found it
[16-Jul-2007 17:10:00] <F350> can't sort or add event Class column to the event viewer
[16-Jul-2007 17:10:09] <F350> do you have this problem too ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:11:03] <F350> even with a fresh install i have the same problem (on the same server)
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[16-Jul-2007 17:12:32] <F350> i opened a forum thread for this but have no replies
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:02] <maj> i can try
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:08] <maj> but i am running appliance
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:23] <F350> can u try it on the VMWare image ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:39] <maj> ya
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:43] <F350> thx
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:45] <maj> you want me to Add Event?
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:56] <F350> no add the Event Class column
[16-Jul-2007 17:15:35] <F350> so u can have an eventClass column in the event viewer
[16-Jul-2007 17:15:54] <F350> u can do it in the event manager
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[16-Jul-2007 17:17:12] <maj> umm, i don't see anywhere that would say Add event class in event manager
[16-Jul-2007 17:17:29] <maj> nm
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[16-Jul-2007 17:17:40] <F350> in the first page of the event manager, u can drag columns
[16-Jul-2007 17:18:12] <F350> so u can modify the colums that u want to show in event viewer
[16-Jul-2007 17:20:03] <maj> see, the first page of event manager has the settings of mysql server etc.
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[16-Jul-2007 17:20:18] <maj> is that the one you're talking abotu?
[16-Jul-2007 17:20:43] <F350> no the second one then lol, sorry do not have access to my zenoss
[16-Jul-2007 17:21:29] <maj> ok, the second one is Fields, and i can drag and drop stuff there
[16-Jul-2007 17:21:37] <F350> yeah that's it
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:03] <F350> can u add the eventClass field to the required fields ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:06] <maj> in the Default Event ID box i have EventClass
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:10] <maj> hold on
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:32] <maj> ya, just did
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:49] <F350> ok, can u see if in the event viwer u have this field ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:23:46] <maj> ya
[16-Jul-2007 17:23:57] <F350> this is crazy
[16-Jul-2007 17:24:04] <F350> u have 2.0.2 right ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:24:48] <maj> umm, whatever was current as of a week ago
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:01] <maj> i can't find ver anywhere
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:15] <F350> u can see that in preferences maybe
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:22] <maj> i am looking there
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:26] <maj> no versions
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:36] <maj> hold on, i can probably find it in the readme of the vmware image
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:47] <F350> no it's ok, thx for ur help
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:58] <F350> don't want to bother u more
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:59] <maj> uhhh
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:03] <maj> its 2.0.0
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:17] <F350> ok, in the 2.0 i had this working
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:27] <maj> ahh
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:48] <maj> sorry, if i get this to work, i am never upgrading... jk
[16-Jul-2007 17:27:24] <F350> lol, to be honest i don't know if it's a but or not since nobody replied to my question
[16-Jul-2007 17:27:31] <F350> bug
[16-Jul-2007 17:27:45] <F350> altought it is easy to check it
[16-Jul-2007 17:28:26] <F350> thx again
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[16-Jul-2007 17:31:41] <maj> np
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[16-Jul-2007 20:46:17] <WS_> how do you go about adding another discovery protocol
[16-Jul-2007 20:46:19] <WS_> like ssh or ping
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[17-Jul-2007 02:37:10] <iscream> hy all, can anybody help me in sending event using rest call? i know there is in the howto, but could anybody help me with it???
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[17-Jul-2007 05:50:31] <iscream> could someone help in zenoss?
[17-Jul-2007 06:11:43] <iscream> anybody here...?
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[17-Jul-2007 07:50:16] <iscream> cluther : hy! how do you do
[17-Jul-2007 07:52:32] <cluther> iscream: I do alright. How're things?
[17-Jul-2007 07:55:59] <iscream> cluther : thx, i go forward slowly but sure:D
[17-Jul-2007 07:56:14] <cluther> iscream: Sure is a good thing.
[17-Jul-2007 07:57:10] <iscream> cluther : is it possible in zenoss to make new deviceclasses (i found it out it is), but other "main page", for example PC doesnt must show the same info-s like a printer
[17-Jul-2007 07:59:09] <cluther> iscream: It definitely is possible. Device classes define what is modeled and monitored on a device, so you'd have to be sure to setup the zCollectorPlugins and performance templates according to how you wanted devices in that class to be modeled and discovered.
[17-Jul-2007 07:59:12] <iscream> cluther: exactly i want a panel, which sends me event info and i would like to store the last status, for example the panel sends me info events in the summary with the temperature, and if i go to this 'device' on the main page appears the actual temperature
[17-Jul-2007 08:00:02] <cluther> iscream: Have you figured out how to get this temperature value from your device yet?
[17-Jul-2007 08:00:58] <iscream> cluther : my boss said the temperature would be from a thermometer in the serverroom
[17-Jul-2007 08:01:28] <cluther> iscream: So this thermometer would have an IP address?
[17-Jul-2007 08:01:36] <iscream> cluther : some told me i should do with mibs, but i cannot find the correct mib
[17-Jul-2007 08:03:05] <iscream> cluther : the panel would handle the thermometer, and find out from it the temperature, and takes it in the REST command to send event
[17-Jul-2007 08:03:39] <iscream> cluther : do you see what i mean?
[17-Jul-2007 08:04:23] <cluther> iscream: I think you're going about this in the wrong way. A better way would be to add the thermometer as a device, and add a performance template that pulled the temperature via an SNMP data source.
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[17-Jul-2007 08:05:54] <iscream> cluther : this would be the other solution, yes
[17-Jul-2007 08:07:09] <FEON> Anyone have instructions on getting Zenoss to work with Fedora 7. I just past the python2.4 hassle but it still wont run on the 7 release. And is there any word when zenoss is going to move to a more current release of python
[17-Jul-2007 08:09:22] <iscream> cluther : how is it, when i go to devices-> make a new sub-device called thermo->go to template tab-> there device and add new datasource which informs me via SNMP the temperature, is this what you tell me?
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[17-Jul-2007 08:11:29] <cluther> iscream: yes
[17-Jul-2007 08:11:45] <iscream> cluther : thx
[17-Jul-2007 08:12:40] <cluther> FEON: RHEL5 and the latest SuSE are still using Python 2.4. At the moment that is a preferred installation target. Once those go to 2.5 it will become a priority for us.
[17-Jul-2007 08:12:53] <cluther> FEON: What kind of problem are you having getting it installed?
[17-Jul-2007 08:13:03] <iscream> cluther: last time when you helped me with the graph and disk info...it worked fine,from after that day until now, it is again that unknown status, and now perf graph, and i havent changed anything i guess....how could it happened/or not happened?:S
[17-Jul-2007 08:13:27] <cluther> iscream: Did you move it to a different device class?
[17-Jul-2007 08:15:48] <FEON> cluster, with the install, I have to get python2.4, install it and use it (aka the link thing as per work around posted on the net). As it turns out you then can not use python2.5 as stated in the work around instructions but must continue to use puthon2.4. The bottomline, zenoss needs to be ported to python2.5
[17-Jul-2007 08:18:16] <iscream> cluther : no, i havent, it is still in the 'server/windows'
[17-Jul-2007 08:18:25] <iscream> where it worked fine
[17-Jul-2007 08:19:37] <cluther> iscream: Are there any events on the device that indicate a problem collecting the data? If you go to Settings/Daemons are all of the daemons running?
[17-Jul-2007 08:20:20] <iscream> zenhub was off
[17-Jul-2007 08:22:11] <iscream> i started it now, and modelled again the device, and i will wait what happens
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[17-Jul-2007 08:23:20] <Merciless> *ping*
[17-Jul-2007 08:24:20] <cluther> Hi Merciless.
[17-Jul-2007 08:24:32] <Merciless> Hi there
[17-Jul-2007 08:24:33] <FEON> cluster, zenoss is now up on F-7 "but", you have to use python2.4 for both install and runtime and zensocket needs the owner/group-to-root/wheel and chmod u+s modifications made for it to finally run
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:29] <Merciless>
before I start.. i'm a newbie to SNMP monitoring and zenoss... So before I hassle people, does anyone know good tutorials that can help? Trying to implement it in a mid size company
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:32] <cluther> FEON: Good, and yes.. that's right about zensocket. It is the setuid socket creator that allows zenping, zensyslog and zentrap to run as the zenoss user.
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:49] <Merciless> Already has a system of snmp monitoring but trying to replace it. Got Zenoss vmware demo up and running, but not sure how to monitor things like SNMP
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:55] <Merciless> etc
[17-Jul-2007 08:26:00] <Merciless> *CPU not SNMP :/
[17-Jul-2007 08:27:48] <cluther> Merciless: If you don't mind PowerPoint format too much, a good SNMP primer is at: www.karlquinn.com/openresources/NDS23Nov04.ppt
[17-Jul-2007 08:28:05] <cluther> Merciless: It can really save a lot of time to understand SNMP from the beginning.
[17-Jul-2007 08:28:48] <Merciless> Well I'm a placement student at the momnent.. so rather than get something working but not understanding it, I'd rather learn it so thanks very much. Will give that presentation a read!
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:04] <iscream> Merciless : you can gogglie it ' SNMP Beginning'
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:05] <iscream> or
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:22] <iscream> Merciless: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/snmp.htm
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:22] <Merciless> gogglie? thats a new term for it
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:43] <iscream> Merciless : anyway, you know what i mean:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:56] <cluther> Merciless: However, Zenoss should monitor CPU on most devices right out of the box. Windows will require that you install the SNMP Informant MIB extension (http://www.snmp-informant.com/) to get CPU/Memory/Paging informatin.
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:56] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[17-Jul-2007 08:30:22] <Merciless> If our current DMON system already monitors CPU on the Server, I should be able to monitor it using Zenoss without changing anything right?
[17-Jul-2007 08:30:39] <Merciless> im planning on running 2 systems side by side to ensure its working as it should
[17-Jul-2007 08:30:40] <iscream> and install the snmp service as well in the program install screen in windows
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:14] <cluther> Merciless: It depends on how DMON gets the information, but if it is via SNMP that assumption seems valid.
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:46] <Merciless> Right. Reading time for me. Much appreciated
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:52] <iscream>
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:56] <iscream> Merciless : have fun!:D
[17-Jul-2007 08:32:06] <Merciless> lol will do!
[17-Jul-2007 08:33:20] <cluther> If you run into any problems, iscream is always here to help.
[17-Jul-2007 08:33:46] <iscream> cluther : is it ok, when i want to delete a device in the device list, i put a tick on it, and tab delete device nothing happens, but if i go into the device screen, and i delete the device there, its ok?
[17-Jul-2007 08:34:02] <iscream> cluther : dont be mad ... im just noob with a lot of questions for you:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:34:51] <cluther> iscream: I'm not mad at all. Just trying to make bad jokes.
[17-Jul-2007 08:35:38] <cluther> iscream: I'll see if I can reproduce that device deletion thing.
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[17-Jul-2007 08:36:21] <iscream> cluther: and i cant speak english xD, and i articulated not well:), so i feel shame for the lot of things disturbing you with my questionsXD
[17-Jul-2007 08:36:55] <iscream> cluther : anyway, im from hungary, i donno if i mentioned it, so sorry for my english:D
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:15] <cluther> iscream: You write well enough for me to understand. English is my first language and I still struggle with it occasionally.
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:27] <cluther> iscream: Ok.. more than occasionally.
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[17-Jul-2007 08:37:49] <iscream> ehh
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:51] <iscream>
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:52] <iscream> its ok
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:01] <iscream> maybe the beers doing it to you...XD
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:11] <iscream> -to +with
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:27] <cluther> hehe
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:47] <iscream> cluther : may i ask where r u from?
[17-Jul-2007 08:39:34] <cluther> iscream: Right outside of Washington, DC, US
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:03] <iscream> ohh, thats nice...whats the weather like there?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:16] <cluther> iscream: Very hot, hazy and humid.
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:25] <iscream> here in hungary its 2pm and its about 42celsius
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:38] <Merciless> its cold here in the UK
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:44] <Merciless> been raining all damn summer so far
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:46] <cluther> iscream: That is HOT!
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:58] <cluther> Merciless: Yeah.. Wimbledon was crazy.
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:06] <Merciless> yup
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:08] <iscream> im glad im in an airconditioned office
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:11] <Merciless> im a big big tennis fan haha
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:12] <iscream> come here
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:15] <Merciless> so was ashame
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:17] <iscream> its terrible:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:42:00] <cluther> iscream: Thanks but not thanks!
[17-Jul-2007 08:42:09] <cluther> Merciless: ashame?
[17-Jul-2007 08:42:49] <iscream> cluther: and if i have a cold beer for you? in change you helped/help me with zenoss..?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:04] <Merciless> dissapointing that there was lots of rain so not much tennis
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:09] <iscream> what time is it now at the US?
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:18] <iscream> in
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:21] <iscream> not at :S
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:31] <iscream> i have to work on my English...
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:11] <cluther> Merciless: The final was still amazing.
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:28] <Merciless> Shame Nadal couldn't get a winner though
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:39] <iscream> everyone is tennis fan, just im not?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:40] <Merciless> I'll be cheering on Andy Murray at the US Open
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:45] <iscream> one of they
[17-Jul-2007 08:45:40] <iscream> someone football/soccer maybe...?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:46:02] <Merciless> I'm a big Leeds United fan here in England. Shame we're rubbish now
[17-Jul-2007 08:51:17] <Merciless> cluther : What MIB's are by default being used by Zenoss?
[17-Jul-2007 08:51:50] <Merciless> Also, when creating a new MIB, OID Mappings I assume is the number identifier of the MIB? What about the Trap?
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:18] <iscream> sry, phone
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:28] <iscream> so
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:30] <iscream> FORZA MILAN!:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:37] <Merciless> lol
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:51] <iscream> why lol?
[17-Jul-2007 08:56:07] <iscream> dont you like milan, or what?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:58:28] <iscream> cluther are you around?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:58:37] <Merciless> nono I like Milan
[17-Jul-2007 08:58:51] <iscream> my boss just phoned me some new idea, or question:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:59:00] <iscream> Merciless : your luck XD
[17-Jul-2007 08:59:50] <Merciless> Hmmm it would be great if there was a specific Zenoss tutorial.. with how to configure Zenoss within the network for monitoring and how to set it up to monitor things like CPU...
[17-Jul-2007 09:00:29] <iscream> Merciless : admin guide
[17-Jul-2007 09:02:31] <Merciless> thank you. Have an ice cream <3
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:17] <iscream> lol
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:23] <iscream> it would be nice:D
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:40] <Merciless> lol
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:40] <iscream> but in this work, they dont give me such things as icecream...:D
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[17-Jul-2007 09:55:46] <Merciless> argh this is all going way over my head
[17-Jul-2007 09:56:05] <Merciless> shame its just not a matter of auto finds all devices and you can select what services and things to monitor on each device
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[17-Jul-2007 09:58:27] <iscream> it contains auto discovery
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[17-Jul-2007 10:01:57] <Merciless> not in the sense i mean iscream
[17-Jul-2007 10:01:58] <Merciless>
[17-Jul-2007 10:02:18] <Merciless> my auto discovery is click a button, auto lists all servers and starts monitoring them.. sorted
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:09] <iscream> ...lazy:D
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:24] <Merciless> i dont seem to be getting my head around all this
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:28] <Merciless> I understand what a MIB is now
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:32] <Merciless> i understnad what SNMP is and does
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:40] <Merciless> but getting Zenoss to work.. is what I dont understand lol!
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:45] <Merciless> even following the user guide
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:59] <Merciless> because technically i have it working.. and when a discovered server goes down, it alerts me
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:09] <Merciless> but monitoring CPU usage, and monitoring a windows service.. i cant get them working.
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:27] <iscream> what type of cpu do u want monitor?
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:30] <iscream> windows/linux?
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:35] <Merciless> primarily windows.
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:47] <iscream> you need 2 download snmp informant
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:20] <iscream> http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:20] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:23] <iscream> to your windows pc
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:48] <iscream> i guess you installed the snmp service , so thats all
[17-Jul-2007 10:09:26] <Merciless> well here's an example
[17-Jul-2007 10:09:34] <Merciless> in my company.. we have a domain controller called LDS2DC1.
[17-Jul-2007 10:09:48] <Merciless> Currently our SNMP Monitoring system will provide alerts on HD Usage, CPU, etc etc...
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:01] <iscream> yep
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:04] <Merciless> There is only the main SNMP service active on LDS2DC1.
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:15] <Merciless> So now I want to set up Zenoss to monitor the same things on that server.
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:21] <Merciless> Just to try and get an idea of it working
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:30] <Merciless> I've stuck in the host of Zenoss on DC1
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:53] <iscream> and where is the zenos installed?
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:57] <iscream> on the lds2?
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[17-Jul-2007 10:11:26] <Merciless> LDS2WKS2
[17-Jul-2007 10:11:31] <Merciless> same domain same subnet
[17-Jul-2007 10:11:51] <Merciless> i manually discovered LDS2DC1 which worked.. though it wont tell me specific hardware or software information about DC1 in Zenoss
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:02] <iscream> when?
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:19] <iscream> 'cause after the adding it takes a while when it works fine
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:26] <iscream> performance graph, disk usage etc
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:45] <Merciless> So once its added to Zenoss it should start monitoring those things straight away?
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:58] <iscream> no
[17-Jul-2007 10:13:10] <iscream> ~30-40 minutes after
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[17-Jul-2007 10:13:32] <iscream> rere cluther
[17-Jul-2007 10:14:23] <Merciless> ok iscream but for example, now that i've added lds2dc1, and it can ping it and detect the snmp.. how would I set variables for when to alert me regarding CPU usage or HD usage etc
[17-Jul-2007 10:14:31] <Merciless> so if the CPU gets too much, or HD gets too full
[17-Jul-2007 10:14:47] <iscream> at alerting rules
[17-Jul-2007 10:15:20] <Merciless> aha!
[17-Jul-2007 10:15:52] <iscream> you can add alerting rules, or thresholds
[17-Jul-2007 10:16:06] <iscream> thresholds at the device's templates
[17-Jul-2007 10:19:50] <Merciless> should zenoss be able to tell me the CPU details of LDS2DC1
[17-Jul-2007 10:19:59] <Merciless> I cant find the way to set the alerting rule or threshold for anything...
[17-Jul-2007 10:20:12] <Merciless> I found alerting rules but no way to relate that to things like resource usage...
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[17-Jul-2007 10:21:38] <iscream> resource usage with thresholds
[17-Jul-2007 10:21:46] <iscream> for example 90% cpu usage
[17-Jul-2007 10:21:59] <iscream> there are an example in the admin guide
[17-Jul-2007 10:22:18] <Merciless> ok i'll try and find the example
[17-Jul-2007 10:22:43] <Merciless> the only CPU Usage example I could find had the section blank which has been "left black intentionally"
[17-Jul-2007 10:24:24] <iscream> zenoss admin guide2.0 page 117
[17-Jul-2007 10:27:10] <Merciless> The thing is... For the device, it doesnt have anything for filesystem
[17-Jul-2007 10:27:23] <Merciless> it has no variables for that device thats been input automatically.. im assuming thats what snmp informant does?
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[17-Jul-2007 10:27:35] <Merciless> weird how our current DMON is monitoring that without it though?
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[17-Jul-2007 10:28:17] <iscream> there is other datasource for example sysuptime, or at the filesystem disk usage percent and so on
[17-Jul-2007 10:28:59] <mohsen> hi, when I run zenperfsnmp manually I get this error. any idea about what's wrong?
[17-Jul-2007 10:29:03] <mohsen> ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error sending event: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Trac
[17-Jul-2007 10:29:05] <mohsen> eback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[17-Jul-2007 10:29:22] <maff> solid blue the easy to configure button should not be
[17-Jul-2007 10:30:29] <iscream> maff: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2123&sid=6c2e1a1663263297f445516fa452dee4
[17-Jul-2007 10:30:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - R: R: R: r5411 zenperfsnmp error (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2007 10:30:29] <iscream> read after
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[17-Jul-2007 10:33:36] <Lxy> anyone willing to help me with a Ciasco router in ZenOSS?
[17-Jul-2007 10:33:40] <Lxy> Cisco*
[17-Jul-2007 10:35:07] <Lxy> I want to set up traffic graphs and I'm a bit lost
[17-Jul-2007 10:42:14] <mohsen> Lxy: I'm having the same problem!
[17-Jul-2007 10:42:36] <mohsen> Lxy: how far did you go?
[17-Jul-2007 10:45:06] <Lxy> well, I have my snmp stuff set up on the Cisco. It correctly identifies my Cisco network config, so I know it's working
[17-Jul-2007 10:45:47] <Lxy> a doc I found suggests that the data can be found by drilling dow to the interface in the OS tab. I have a meeting to go to, so hopefully when I get back in 1+ hours I'll have a blip on the graph
[17-Jul-2007 10:46:48] <mohsen> Lxy: it might be the same problem as mine. run zenperfsnmp manually. zenperfsnmp run -v10 -d "yourmachinename" . see what errors you get
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[17-Jul-2007 10:51:45] <Lxy> mohsen, that command is taking its time to run
[17-Jul-2007 10:52:21] <mohsen> if it took longer than expected, maybe you need to restart your zenoss
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[17-Jul-2007 11:00:07] <Lxy> what is the proper pricedure for restarting?
[17-Jul-2007 11:00:57] <Merciless> I have a very genuine question. Why is it SNMP? When rewriting the whole of .net would be easier than understanding SNMP (the simple bit i'm referring to )
[17-Jul-2007 11:00:57] <mohsen> ./bin/zenoss restart
[17-Jul-2007 11:02:29] <Lxy> hmm.... zenoss may have not been fully initialized to begin with. Taht would explain my weird results
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[17-Jul-2007 11:10:56] <mohsen> Lxy: and everything works now?
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[17-Jul-2007 11:14:55] <Lxy> mohsen, restarting Zenoss fixed it. I have pretty graphs now
[17-Jul-2007 11:16:46] <mohsen> Lxy: Lucky you! I am still stuck
[17-Jul-2007 11:18:28] <mohsen> Lxy: besides adding the device and setting up the snmp parameters, what you ve done to get the graphs?
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[17-Jul-2007 11:20:26] <kippi> hey
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[17-Jul-2007 11:21:31] <kippi> I am using the zenoss vm player, but i can't seem to add a new user, there is no where to add the user, anyideas?
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:01] <Bulwinkle> kippi: what version?
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:49] <kippi> Version 2.0.0
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:49] <Merciless> kippi this took me a while.. but the arrow on the left hand side of the "users" menu bar thing.. if you click on the arrow you can click new user
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:54] <Merciless> its in the preferences bit
[17-Jul-2007 11:24:08] <kippi> so click on preferences at the top right?
[17-Jul-2007 11:24:51] <kippi> still don't see new user anywhere
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:14] <Merciless> http://your.ip:8080/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/manageUserFolder
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:24] <Merciless> when you click preferences you see: /ZenUsers /admin above the main information window
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:32] <Merciless> if you click on /ZenUsers it brings you to the users bit
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:45] <Merciless> Click the down arrow to the left of "User Folders"
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:53] <Merciless> then Add New User
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:54] <Merciless> vwala
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:14] <Merciless> The quick start guide on the website seems to be for the older version i only found about zenoss earlier today though so could be wrong ^-^
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:15] <kippi> there is no add user
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:32] <Merciless> you clicked the down arrow on the left of user folder?
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:36] <Bulwinkle> kippi: see the down arrow on the left top bar?
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:40] <kippi> yeah
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:44] <Merciless> whats in it
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:11] <kippi> main views, classes, browse, managemnt
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:35] <Merciless> :s
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:45] <Merciless> Your not on the users page
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:47] <kippi> ah
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:49] <kippi> I see
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:51] <kippi> lol
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:52] <kippi> !!!!
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:58] <kippi> hehe
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:02] <kippi> silly me!!
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:11] <Merciless> Click Preferences. In the new screen, click on the "/ZenUsers" part of the "/ZenUsers /admin" link at the top.
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:17] <Merciless> Then click on the down arrow and add new user
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:19] <Merciless> see it?
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:22] <kippi> yeah
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:27] <kippi> i've got it
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:39] <Merciless> fantastic =)
[17-Jul-2007 11:29:17] <Merciless> My turn for a question. Anyway of monitoring resources of a windows server without using SNMP Informant
[17-Jul-2007 11:37:19] <kippi> where is the setting to say how quicky the monitors check
[17-Jul-2007 11:37:51] <kippi> got it
[17-Jul-2007 11:41:58] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: SNMP Informant is the best way
[17-Jul-2007 11:42:59] <solarce> just label it a security patch
[17-Jul-2007 11:43:31] <Merciless> Fair enough Bulwinkle
[17-Jul-2007 11:43:41] <kippi> its seems a bit slow at saying the server is down and then backup
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:06] <Merciless> kippi.. the detection only takes place every x sections, and the web page updates every x seconds as well
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:19] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: there are other ways but, they can be painful at best
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:23] <mohsen> When I run zenperfsnmp, I get this error. Any Idea:ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error sending event: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Trac
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:25] <mohsen> eback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:29] <Merciless> I.e MIB's i take it
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:23] <Merciless> maff: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2123&sid=6c2e1a1663263297f445516fa452dee4
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - R: R: R: r5411 zenperfsnmp error (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:23] <Merciless> :/ wrong bit
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:56] <mohsen> Merciless: did you answer me? I've read that and it did not help
[17-Jul-2007 11:46:09] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: a lot of the OIDs you need to monitor system functions aren't presented by WIndows SNMP
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[17-Jul-2007 11:48:17] <Merciless> Bulwinkle - i was under the impression things like CPU and HD resources are there already? The companys current monitor does monitor these things without SNMP Informant.
[17-Jul-2007 11:48:27] <Merciless> But I'm new to the company and the guy who set up the current monitor has left. :/
[17-Jul-2007 11:48:33] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: what product do they use?
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:04] <Merciless> Its one created by the guy who left
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:07] <Merciless> he called it DMON anyway
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:36] <Merciless> he wrote it.. works well but visually its horrible thus we're looking to upgrade really
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:46] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I suggest going through it and finding out the OIDs, then you can set up Zenoss to use them
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:00] <Merciless> kk i'll have to find him first.
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:09] <Merciless> Relating to the same thing, I did install SNMP Informant for testing
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:24] <Merciless> but the device when discovered wouldnt display things like CPU statistics or HD Size etc
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:26] <Merciless> :S
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[17-Jul-2007 11:54:12] <Merciless> any idea Bulwinkle
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[17-Jul-2007 11:59:56] <kippi> trying to add new devices but its going to the status screen and not showing anymore, added others and it was working, anyideas?
[17-Jul-2007 12:00:28] <kippi> worked it out
[17-Jul-2007 12:05:43] <Bulwinkle> kippi: you sure ask a lot of questions without trying to figure them our yourself
[17-Jul-2007 12:06:19] <Merciless> rofl
[17-Jul-2007 12:06:21] <Merciless> tis true
[17-Jul-2007 12:11:12] <Merciless> Bulwinkle still no idea on mine? =)
[17-Jul-2007 12:12:30] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I have seen it before, saw it yesterday as a matter of fact... what happens if you try to do an snmpget of one of the OID Zenoss is asking for?
[17-Jul-2007 12:13:23] <Merciless> I havent tried because im a newbie and not sure what i'd type exactly in the console
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:00] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: do you have anything on the hardware tab of the server?
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:34] <Merciless> Socket Manufacturer Model Speed Ext Speed L1 L2 Volts
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:35] <Merciless> 0 Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:49] <Merciless> Memory 126.4MB Swap 309.9MB
[17-Jul-2007 12:17:02] <Merciless> at least it detected its intel rofl
[17-Jul-2007 12:25:58] <Merciless> Bulwinkle I have to go... if you can post an answer (i'll be idling) it would be much appreciated.
[17-Jul-2007 12:26:19] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: check your perf tab
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:00] <Merciless> how come?
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:20] <Merciless> there are no graphs
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:30] <Merciless> CPU, Free Memory and Paging are there
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:33] <Merciless> but no graphs next to them
[17-Jul-2007 12:38:55] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: need more data
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[17-Jul-2007 13:13:06] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: are you around?
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[17-Jul-2007 13:55:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: did you see my reply to your post on the forum?
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[17-Jul-2007 14:10:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: did you see my reply to your post on the forum?
[17-Jul-2007 14:19:05] <Lxy> mohsen, you still here?
[17-Jul-2007 14:19:20] <mohsen> Lxy: yes
[17-Jul-2007 14:20:12] <Lxy> mohsen, I was away from my desk for awhile there. I didn't really do anything, other than restart zenoss. I re-ran the command you gave me, completed successfully, and it's been graphing data ever since
[17-Jul-2007 14:20:36] <Lxy> I've now added a few switches and it appears to be graphong them as well
[17-Jul-2007 14:21:13] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, what's the best way to find OIDs for devices? Should I start with the manufacturer supplied MIBs?
[17-Jul-2007 14:21:41] <mohsen> Lxy: I see. I am still struggling to find what's wrong in my side. Which user do you run zenoss under?
[17-Jul-2007 14:21:53] <Lxy> I created a user called zenoss
[17-Jul-2007 14:24:16] <Lxy> though some part of zenoss is SUID root
[17-Jul-2007 14:25:18] <mohsen> okay I am going to run everything under root to see if it make any diff.
[17-Jul-2007 14:26:19] <Lxy> the installer told me to set everything SUID zenoss except for one binary
[17-Jul-2007 14:26:28] <Lxy> and of course make sure the environment variables are set for root
[17-Jul-2007 14:26:58] <Lxy> oh, zensocket is runnign SUID root
[17-Jul-2007 14:27:04] <Lxy> to support raw sockets
[17-Jul-2007 14:27:22] <Lxy> but zenoss itself is running as user zenoss
[17-Jul-2007 14:27:39] <mohsen> Yes, I have zensocket SUID too
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[17-Jul-2007 14:34:02] <maj> where do i change notification options so it auto sends an email when an error even is generated
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[17-Jul-2007 14:46:19] <maj> anyone?
[17-Jul-2007 14:47:15] <Lxy> sorry, not an expert on zenoss yet
[17-Jul-2007 14:48:34] <Lxy> ok, so I have a device and an associated MIB file, but the MIB file doesn't ahve any useful info in it (like the OID for CPU, etc). Is there a way I can query a device to tell me what OIDs it has available to me?
[17-Jul-2007 14:52:01] <mohsen> Lxy: snmpwak
[17-Jul-2007 14:52:04] <mohsen> Lxy: snmpwalk
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[17-Jul-2007 15:29:34] <Bulwinkle> maj: did you find your answer?
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[17-Jul-2007 15:30:53] <maj> uhh... well, kinda... i set up an alert for myslef under user preferences
[17-Jul-2007 15:31:03] <maj> but it only sends me an email when the alert is cleared
[17-Jul-2007 15:31:15] <maj> i need it to send when the error is generated
[17-Jul-2007 15:32:55] <Bulwinkle> maj: what do you have for your alert? severity, event state?
[17-Jul-2007 15:42:17] <Bulwinkle> maj: >?
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:01] <maj> umm
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:40] <maj> IP = 192.168.1.246
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:48] <maj> prod state = production
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:53] <maj> severity >= error
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:58] <maj> event state = new
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[17-Jul-2007 15:57:45] <Bulwinkle> maj: delete event state = new and change it to count = 1
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[17-Jul-2007 16:19:34] <WS_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2751
[17-Jul-2007 16:19:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Auto IP Devices (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2007 16:19:34] <WS_> if one of you could look at both of those example pictures and tell me if that's normal
[17-Jul-2007 16:20:01] <WS_> I'd much appreciate it
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[17-Jul-2007 17:32:30] <maj> is there any way to make zenoss run over ssl?
[17-Jul-2007 17:41:48] <bzed> there's a howto on zenoss.com
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[17-Jul-2007 17:42:02] <bzed> you run it trough the proxy module of apache
[17-Jul-2007 17:42:12] <bzed> and use proxy--based rewriting
[17-Jul-2007 17:42:29] <bzed> you could also google for zope ssl apache - or something liek that, all the same
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[17-Jul-2007 18:13:26] <tristanbob_> how much does zenoss enterprise cost?
[17-Jul-2007 18:17:52] <bzed> I think that's something you wanna ask by using the contact form on zenoss.com
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[17-Jul-2007 18:50:59] <rodeoclown> depends on options, support, etc as well. my employer purchased zenoss with one year support, i won't say how much but it can be costly
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[17-Jul-2007 19:05:05] <bzed> if you go to HP and buy openview with support.. it'll be costly, too.
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[18-Jul-2007 04:48:56] <kippi> has anyone got a good howto for setting up snmp agent on a client?
[18-Jul-2007 04:50:38] <Darkfang> use the default generation script?
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[18-Jul-2007 04:51:35] <Darkfang> i mean "snmpconf"
[18-Jul-2007 04:57:51] <kippi> it dosn't seem like snmp is starting
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:04] <Darkfang> what OS are you using?
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:10] <kippi> ubuntu
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:20] <Darkfang> did you look in /var/log for any error message?
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:55] <kippi> yeah, nothing
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[18-Jul-2007 05:01:11] <Darkfang> are you sure the config file is well placed?
[18-Jul-2007 05:01:42] <Darkfang> try
[18-Jul-2007 05:01:43] <kippi> its in /etc/snmp/
[18-Jul-2007 05:02:00] <Darkfang> try to force config file path
[18-Jul-2007 05:02:12] <Darkfang> i'm under mac OS X so path may differs with me
[18-Jul-2007 05:02:16] <Darkfang> for me it's /usr/share/snmp/snmpd.conf
[18-Jul-2007 05:03:19] <kippi> anyideas how you what force the config?
[18-Jul-2007 05:03:55] <Darkfang> /usr/sbin/snmpd -c path/to/file
[18-Jul-2007 05:05:14] <kippi> ok, just testing now
[18-Jul-2007 05:06:12] <iscream> could anyone help me with events/event classes?
[18-Jul-2007 05:06:31] <kippi> well I can connect to localhost on 161, but zenoss dosn't seem to connect
[18-Jul-2007 05:08:59] <Merciless> Morning iscream how are you
[18-Jul-2007 05:10:47] <Darkfang> try snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic machine_hostname 1
[18-Jul-2007 05:16:04] <Darkfang> did you get something kippi?
[18-Jul-2007 05:17:33] <Merciless> If anyone is bored and very comfortable with MIB's, Traps, and Zenoss, I wouldnt mind a pm session sometime ^-^
[18-Jul-2007 05:17:45] <Merciless> harrrd getting head around how they all interlink etc
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[18-Jul-2007 05:20:37] <kippi> hmm getting no responce
[18-Jul-2007 05:21:43] <kippi> but if I do localhost i get loads back
[18-Jul-2007 05:23:38] <kippi> there is no firewall blocking it, could this be a setting in snmp blocking it?
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[18-Jul-2007 05:25:25] <Darkfang> err
[18-Jul-2007 05:38:57] <Merciless> pfft no-one?
[18-Jul-2007 05:42:30] <iscream> hy Merciless
[18-Jul-2007 05:42:32] <kippi> is there an auto discover for zenoss
[18-Jul-2007 05:44:18] <iscream> kippi : autoÃ��Ã�³discover services?
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:22] <Merciless> lol you ok iscream?
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:33] <iscream> or devics?
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:36] <iscream> yeah im ok
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:54] <Merciless> good good
[18-Jul-2007 05:46:04] <iscream> im tired
[18-Jul-2007 05:46:08] <iscream> its very hot out there:D
[18-Jul-2007 05:46:18] <Merciless> still rubbish in the UK
[18-Jul-2007 05:48:15] <iscream> no
[18-Jul-2007 05:48:21] <iscream> tell me:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:49:33] <Merciless> tell you what?
[18-Jul-2007 05:49:48] <iscream> something news
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:02] <Merciless> wow I'm confused
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:12] <Merciless> So are you up to much? Busy? Or bored?
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:35] <iscream> busy with this work :S
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:42] <Merciless> anything hard?
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:45] <iscream> my boss hurries me
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:48] <Merciless> oh dear lol
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:03] <Merciless> Well my job is setting up Zenoss in our company. But COMPLETELY stuck
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:20] <Merciless> Will have to wait till someone on here will happily run through some things with me. The admin guide isn't proving helpful on the issue lol
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:24] <iscream> hard sometimes 'cause i didnt used to use zenoss,so...:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:36] <iscream> cluther for example:D
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:40] <Merciless> lol!
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:46] <Merciless> yes!
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:47] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:49] <iscream> i go forward
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:50] <iscream> but
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:03] <iscream> my boss wanted me to do something like ping event
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <iscream> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2771
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Events (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <iscream> i wrote it down:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <iscream> so that is where i stucked:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:53:09] <Merciless> ah fair enough
[18-Jul-2007 05:53:35] <Merciless> i'm stuck because I can't understand how to create a MIB to monitor certain thinkgs (i know the OID but don't know how to tell it to run on a device)!
[18-Jul-2007 05:53:46] <iscream> i can send event using RESt, but than in the zenoss...too much event, not like as in the ping event, that switches own status
[18-Jul-2007 05:54:56] <iscream> what would you like to monitor? certain things=?
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:18] <Merciless> Yup like CPU
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:21] <Merciless> which I believe is:
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:40] <Merciless> 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:52] <iscream> and you give the snmpwalk
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:59] <Merciless> sorry?
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:11] <iscream> snmpwalk public myhost OID
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:20] <iscream> and it gives the oid answer
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:26] <Merciless> i'm confused
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:50] <iscream> in the linux box
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:52] <iscream> on the server
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:56] <iscream> if you give this command
[18-Jul-2007 05:57:05] <iscream> it would give you the answer, the info what you need
[18-Jul-2007 05:57:43] <iscream> for example (i donno the exact oid , just example) snmpwalk public server 1.3.6.1.2.1.26900.3.0 gives the temperature of the cPU
[18-Jul-2007 05:58:30] <Merciless> but how would I add that so that the monitor monitors the OID and alerts when it goes over a threshold
[18-Jul-2007 05:58:38] <Merciless> the example in the guide doestn exist.. just an empty space
[18-Jul-2007 05:58:57] <iscream> you added the device, right?
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:05] <Merciless> yup
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:15] <iscream> then you go to the deviceclass
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:18] <iscream> and templates
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:25] <iscream> where you can add thresholds
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:26] <iscream> ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:06] <Merciless> no lol!
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:20] <iscream> left in the zenoss
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:23] <iscream> classes
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:26] <iscream> device
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:27] <iscream> ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:46] <Merciless> Yes
[18-Jul-2007 06:01:00] <iscream> then the right device subclass
[18-Jul-2007 06:01:02] <iscream> i guess server
[18-Jul-2007 06:01:25] <Merciless> yes
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:05] <iscream> and now templates (from now on, it would be applied to all servers the threshold)
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:12] <iscream> device
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:16] <iscream> are you there?
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:29] <Merciless> aha
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:31] <Merciless> ive found it all ^-^
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:41] <iscream> ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:43] <Merciless> do those things directly link to SNMP Informant?
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:47] <iscream> yes
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:52] <Merciless> RIGHT
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:53] <Merciless> =)
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:59] <iscream> when you want add oid to filesystem
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:15] <iscream> then you go back and not device sublcass, you choose filesystem
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:17] <iscream> if empty space
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:17] <iscream> ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:21] <Merciless> So last problem. I have a server with SNMP Informant but it doesnt display CPU information or detialed hard drive information when i look at the device :s
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:27] <Merciless> right
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:59] <iscream> there you can add datasource with the id what you want, and the oid number what you looked out, and from now on you can write thresholds
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:04] <iscream> would be ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:14] <Merciless> yup
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:38] <iscream> good
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:57] <iscream> were you here yesterday when i said im from hungary, and sorry for my english?:D
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:15] <Merciless> I was here and it's ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:26] <iscream> can you "understand" mee?...:P
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:28] <Merciless> now how come, even with SNMP Informant, for CPU information I get this for my server:
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:28] <Merciless> Socket Manufacturer Model Speed Ext Speed L1 L2 Volts
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:28] <Merciless> 0 Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:35] <iscream> hmm
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:46] <iscream> i donno this answer, i have the same problem,
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:58] <iscream> first i had the right hard disk info, usage% and so on
[18-Jul-2007 06:06:01] <iscream> and the perf graph was ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:06:12] <iscream> but the day after till now its nothing
[18-Jul-2007 06:06:25] <iscream> so im waiting for the answer in forum or from cluther:D
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[18-Jul-2007 06:08:12] <Merciless> lol ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:09:21] <Merciless> Anyway to monitor RAM Threshold?
[18-Jul-2007 06:09:58] <iscream> at device thresholds
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memAvailReal 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memAvailSwap 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.4.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memBuffer .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memCached .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.15.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:15] <iscream> one of these
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:25] <kippi> what windows agent do people use?
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:59] <iscream> snmp-informant
[18-Jul-2007 06:11:39] <Merciless> ah ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:17:24] <kippi> so you have to run a client on the windows box?
[18-Jul-2007 06:24:32] <iscream> kippi : you have to install snmp service , and the snmp-informant on the windows box, and it will be ideally okay
[18-Jul-2007 06:30:04] <Merciless> it will display the current used ram correctly.. but doesnt know the max thus "availram" doesnt work and theres no "usedram" threshold
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:07] <iscream> Merciless : i think you are looking for this type, just instead of hard disk memory ram : http://192.168.0.126:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/rrdTemplates/FileSystem/thresholds/Free%20Space%2090%20Percent
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:07] <iscream> ofkÃ��Ã�³rsz
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:07] <iscream> with your ip
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:17] <iscream> ofcourse
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:29] <iscream> instead of 192.168...blahblah
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:34] <Merciless> Thats free hard drive space isn't it?
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:36] <Merciless> I want free RAM
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:40] <Merciless> or RAM Used
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:26] <iscream> it is if there is >=90% of the HD is used then alert or something
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:39] <Merciless> thats HD, not RAM Memory
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:50] <iscream> i know
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:54] <iscream> just its an axample
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:58] <iscream> you can do it with memory too
[18-Jul-2007 06:43:23] <iscream> yeah
[18-Jul-2007 06:43:25] <iscream> i see the problem:D
[18-Jul-2007 06:43:29] <Merciless> but it wont work for RAM because Zenoss doesnt know how much RAM the device has in total
[18-Jul-2007 06:44:32] <iscream> yes it knows, but i donno where to find it...yet
[18-Jul-2007 06:44:41] <iscream> but i searching for it
[18-Jul-2007 06:45:37] <iscream> it must know, 'cause on the device page, on the OS hardware tab, it appears, so it must have come from somewhere
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[18-Jul-2007 06:48:49] <Merciless> It tells me how much RAM its using
[18-Jul-2007 06:48:52] <Merciless> not how much RAM it has in total
[18-Jul-2007 06:49:48] <iscream> i know
[18-Jul-2007 06:49:58] <iscream> Merciless : when you go to the daemons in settings
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:05] <iscream> there are every daemon started?
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:18] <iscream> its just a question, not in connect with the RAM problem
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:35] <Merciless> I dont understand it
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:40] <iscream> go to settings
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:44] <iscream> and deamons tab
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:46] <iscream> are you ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:26] <Merciless> ye im in there
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:38] <iscream> there is just green lights?
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:40] <iscream> are
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:42] <Merciless> zencommand and zenwinmodeler isn't working
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:45] <Merciless> the rest are green
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:48] <iscream> ejj
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:51] <iscream> start it
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:59] <iscream> there must be every daemon working
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:04] <Merciless> ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:25] <iscream> at my zenoss the zenhub isnt working
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:34] <iscream> and i start it, and it stops i donno why
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:48] <Merciless> lol weird
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:13] <iscream> when you go againt to the daemons
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:18] <iscream> its ok all ?
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:36] <Merciless> yup
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:37] <Merciless> still all on
[18-Jul-2007 06:55:56] <iscream> how can i find where is $ZENHOME ?:D
[18-Jul-2007 06:56:16] <Merciless> no idea
[18-Jul-2007 06:59:51] <Merciless> im trying to monitor a windows service. Was using the service clipbook as a test. Even though clipbook service is stopped, zenoss is saying its enabled :S
[18-Jul-2007 06:59:54] <Merciless> weird
[18-Jul-2007 07:00:53] <iscream>
[18-Jul-2007 07:01:06] <Merciless> any idea?
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:24] <iscream> hmm
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:25] <iscream> no idea
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:29] <iscream> sry, i had dinner
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:33] <Merciless> Lol no problem.
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:41] <Merciless> Have you got it to monitor windows services?
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:42] <iscream> oo
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:44] <iscream> not dinner
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:45] <iscream> lunch:D
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:47] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:57] <iscream> yes
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:04] <iscream> i set up to monitor snmp.exe
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:19] <Merciless> thats a process, not a servicce?
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:22] <Merciless> so it monitors processes ok?
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:26] <iscream> yesyes
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:44] <iscream> windows services no
[18-Jul-2007 07:21:17] <iscream> sry, im a bit thoughtless
[18-Jul-2007 07:22:18] <Merciless> no problem
[18-Jul-2007 07:30:49] <iscream> weird...i have the same with processes
[18-Jul-2007 07:30:55] <iscream> i added to monitor firefox on the cpu
[18-Jul-2007 07:30:58] <iscream> it said its up
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:03] <iscream> then i closed the program
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:08] <iscream> then still its up
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:13] <iscream> after 5minutes too
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:48] <Merciless> rofl
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:53] <iscream> ehh
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:55] <Merciless> wheres cluther when ya need him!
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:57] <iscream> but now its ok:P
[18-Jul-2007 07:32:00] <iscream> im fine:P
[18-Jul-2007 07:32:17] <iscream> but cluther can come now...its time...we need him:P
[18-Jul-2007 07:32:20] <Merciless> Can you talk me through how you added the monitoring of the process i told it to monitor notepad, but no events occuring when its closed.
[18-Jul-2007 07:33:36] <iscream> you can add the process i guess
[18-Jul-2007 07:33:40] <iscream> simply
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:06] <iscream> i havent got any event yet when the process is down
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:07] <iscream>
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:39] <iscream> i set up the zFailSeverity 4, error its o
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:39] <iscream> k
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:43] <iscream> but i havent got any error:D
[18-Jul-2007 07:37:48] <iscream> hmm...last time it appeared when i remodelled the device, i will know how much time takes it remodelling itself
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[18-Jul-2007 08:37:17] <Merciless> iscream
[18-Jul-2007 08:37:20] <Merciless> still no cluther rofl
[18-Jul-2007 08:37:25] <Merciless> im stuck till he comes
[18-Jul-2007 08:40:29] <iscream> Merciless : i will be dead, till he comes:P
[18-Jul-2007 08:41:46] <iscream> i have a little more than a hour till workshift end, so...
[18-Jul-2007 08:42:09] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 08:42:13] <Merciless> well I'm completely stuck till he comes
[18-Jul-2007 08:42:46] <Merciless> I need to ask him about MIB's and OID's... monitoring RAM and monitoring CPU.. but through MIB's (as I assume the Disk Template thing won't work on unix boxes or firewalls etc)
[18-Jul-2007 08:45:55] <iscream> ok
[18-Jul-2007 08:46:19] <iscream> i have a couple of questions for him, too, so he will not be boring:P
[18-Jul-2007 08:46:53] <Merciless> looks like he aint comin on tho!
[18-Jul-2007 08:47:23] <iscream> ehh
[18-Jul-2007 08:47:32] <iscream> then i will bother him with email(s)
[18-Jul-2007 08:47:45] <Merciless> i dont hav ehis email addy :'(
[18-Jul-2007 08:49:10] <iscream> i guess that was is his, i found it on the zenoss forum at his reply on a post
[18-Jul-2007 08:50:17] <iscream> -is
[18-Jul-2007 08:50:26] <iscream> i write every noob things down:d
[18-Jul-2007 08:51:28] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 08:53:42] <iscream> Merciless
[18-Jul-2007 08:53:51] <iscream> i think i found a solution to our problem
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:22] <Merciless> oooo
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:23] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:24] <Merciless> go on
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:46] <iscream> but i dont really think it now after i read it twicew...:D
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:48] <iscream> -w
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:49] <iscream> so
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:06] <iscream> http://rhx.redhat.com/rhx/support/article/DOC-1305;jsessionid=3218FCA554523D5AA7F944CEC55DA662
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:06] <adytum-bot> Title: RED HAT EXCHANGE: Adding processes to monitor in Zenoss. (at rhx.redhat.com)
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:07] <iscream> same as service monitoring
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:38] <iscream> read it, and i thought it remodels itself 6hours interval, but at first is it 6hour
[18-Jul-2007 08:56:09] <iscream> so as the post says it should have change its status if the service/process is up/down
[18-Jul-2007 08:56:11] <iscream> right?
[18-Jul-2007 08:57:39] <Merciless> hmm
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:23] <iscream> or how is it?
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:29] <iscream> i cant speak english:D
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:30] <Merciless> Im not sure just reading.
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:45] <iscream> you r english...you have to know it:D
[18-Jul-2007 08:59:25] <Merciless> "To perform process monitoring the device SNMP agent must have a reasonable HOST-RESOURCES mib."
[18-Jul-2007 08:59:49] <Merciless> Now Zenoss should have a reasonable host-resources mib, so that would been SNMP Informant isn't needed!
[18-Jul-2007 09:00:18] <iscream> so informant or host-resource mib?
[18-Jul-2007 09:00:53] <Merciless> as far aas i know.. the reason snmp informant is needed is so that zenoss can analyse resources like disk usage.. however a host-resources MIB can do that...
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:01] <Merciless> this is to do wtih one of my questions lol
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:18] <iscream> anyway i cant understand why changes it status only at remodelling
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:30] <Merciless> same
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:34] <Merciless> how do you do a manual remodel though
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[18-Jul-2007 09:01:45] <iscream> i choose the device
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:54] <iscream> and manage->remodel device
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[18-Jul-2007 09:04:38] <iscream> Merciless : can you do it?
[18-Jul-2007 09:06:32] <Merciless> done it
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:10] <iscream> and it should work with the service monitorng
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:17] <iscream> until you stops the service:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:22] <iscream> then again remodel
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:29] <Merciless> still thinks Clipbook is running
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:30] <Merciless> even though its not
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:33] <iscream> i think its not the real soution:P
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:38] <iscream> at the remodelling
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:47] <iscream> what was written down?
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:57] <iscream> No changes applied, or changes applied?
[18-Jul-2007 09:08:28] <Merciless> changes applied
[18-Jul-2007 09:08:56] <iscream> then it should write at the service monitoring to the service count = 0 :S
[18-Jul-2007 09:09:09] <Merciless> :/
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[18-Jul-2007 09:09:48] <jp10558> Hey, anyone getting use out of winexe in 2.0.2?
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[18-Jul-2007 09:10:40] <iscream> Merciless : i think cluther will not come today
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:56] <Merciless> looks that way
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:57] <Merciless> gutted
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:57] <Merciless> ;p
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:58] <iscream> or not until 4 o clock(now its 3.10pm in hungary)
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:04] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:09] <Merciless> 2:10pm in uk
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:11] <iscream> yeah
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:15] <iscream> gmt+1
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:00] <Merciless> yup
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[18-Jul-2007 09:12:21] <iscream> i would change with you
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:28] <Merciless> same
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:32] <iscream> here is horrible hot:P
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:33] <iscream> ok
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:34] <Merciless> Hey Bulwinkle hows it going
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[18-Jul-2007 09:12:45] <iscream> next week i will go to UK and u come to hungary:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:52] <Merciless> sure thing
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:53] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:57] <Merciless> u got a hot girl i can have too?
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:07] <iscream> u want her...:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:13] <Bulwinkle> hi Merciless
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:39] <iscream> but yeah, im lucky and i have a hot girl, and i miss her:) when i would go to UK, would take her with me:)
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:52] <iscream> but he was there about 2or3months ago
[18-Jul-2007 09:14:13] <iscream> she was in London with her mom sightseeing:)
[18-Jul-2007 09:14:18] <iscream> for a long weekend
[18-Jul-2007 09:15:15] <Merciless> lol
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[18-Jul-2007 09:16:03] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: get your problems resolved?
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:06] <iscream>
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:09] <Merciless> yes and no
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:14] <Merciless> i got a bit further..
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:15] <Merciless> BUT
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:24] <iscream> Merciless : Bulwinkle is your other hero?:P
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:32] <Merciless> The MIB HostResources. How would I use that within Zenoss to monitor servers, without the need of SNMP Informant.. (so i can monitor none windows servers)
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:58] <Merciless> plus.. when i monitor a windows service, it shows as running even when its not.. and finally i still dont get CPU information... and I dont know how to create a threshold for RAM Usage
[18-Jul-2007 09:17:00] <iscream> this question interesses me too
[18-Jul-2007 09:17:06] <Merciless> but the main one is the MIB Host-Resources
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:01] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I'm unfamiliar with MIB Host-resources
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:25] <jp10558> anyone able to run remote commands on a windows machine with 2.0.2?
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:29] <iscream> cluuutheeeeeeeeeeer where are youuu:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:39] <Merciless> Well Host-Resources is a type of MIB which defines everything like CPU usage, Disk usage etc etc
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:49] <Bulwinkle> iscream: he has been bogged down lately
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:51] <Merciless> Can be used on any server though (not just windows)
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:24] <iscream> Bulwinkle : has a lot o work, or how do you mean?
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:26] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you're talking about the standard MIB-Resources SNMP fields
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:52] <Bulwinkle> iscream: yes.... ZenOSS has become very popular and people are paying for licenses which give them priority
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:56] <Merciless> hmm well it can be used without SNMP Informant.. I know that much. We monitor servers we can't touch
[18-Jul-2007 09:21:06] <iscream> "you cant touch just see" - i wanted to give my girlfriend a t-shirt with this line:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:22:08] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: Since the mib-resources is so broad, it doesn't encompass many counters... Basically if you want to use something you see in an snmpwalk, go for it
[18-Jul-2007 09:25:22] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: an SNMP walk will display ALL of the available SNMP variables of a system. I dump it to a file and then peruse it for variables I may want to use
[18-Jul-2007 09:27:25] <Merciless> because im a newbie to all this i'm not too sure how
[18-Jul-2007 09:27:42] <Merciless> if i knew the mib variable for cpu statistics for example, i wouldnt know how to use that for all devices
[18-Jul-2007 09:28:40] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: if you can find that I can walk you through how to use it
[18-Jul-2007 09:29:26] <Merciless> If i can find what?
[18-Jul-2007 09:30:06] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: ANY SNMP OID you want to track
[18-Jul-2007 09:30:59] <Merciless> but dont you download mib's, then use an oid relating to the mib you downloaded?
[18-Jul-2007 09:31:06] <Merciless> im just trying to get my head around everything
[18-Jul-2007 09:32:29] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: if you know the OID on the remote system you don't have to install anything on the ZenOSS system. You may have to install MIBs on the remote system (which is what SNMP Informant does FAIAP)
[18-Jul-2007 09:33:36] <Merciless> We need a system whereby we can monitor these things on customer servers which we cant install anything on.
[18-Jul-2007 09:33:57] <Merciless> Is there a way to install a mib to the zenoss system instead of the host
[18-Jul-2007 09:34:04] <Merciless> thus it will use an OID which is valid for all
[18-Jul-2007 09:36:15] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: yes, but it will only help to identify OID on remote systems with more typical names.
[18-Jul-2007 09:38:00] <Merciless> wow this is difficult hehe sorry for my newbiness
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[18-Jul-2007 09:38:40] <Merciless> SO.. going to basics.. I've got a fresh install of Zenoss. SNMP Informant is NOT installed on a windows server. I also have a netscreen firewall. Can you talk me through how I could monitor CPU on both?
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[18-Jul-2007 09:38:55] <Merciless> without the need for touching the netscreen or the windows server
[18-Jul-2007 09:39:29] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: nope... I don't have any experience with that... I'd post something in the forums.
[18-Jul-2007 09:39:37] <Merciless> Thanks
[18-Jul-2007 09:39:58] <Merciless> but it can be done?
[18-Jul-2007 09:42:37] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: don't know... I don't think so. Why would they use SNMP Informant in the first place?
[18-Jul-2007 09:42:58] <Merciless> Well SNMP Informant will allow graphing to be done and things such as CPU usage in detail to be displayed
[18-Jul-2007 09:43:12] <Merciless> but I do believe there is a MIB with an OID so that SNMP informant isn't needed
[18-Jul-2007 09:43:32] <Merciless> we currnetly have a system monitoring CPU on windows servers WITHOUT snmp informant, using a Host-resources MIB.. but I dont know enough about it all
[18-Jul-2007 09:46:44] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: SNMP Informant does not allow graphing.... ZenOSS does the graphing
[18-Jul-2007 09:47:16] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I suggest you do some more research because your general understanding of how all of this works is flawed
[18-Jul-2007 09:49:31] <Merciless> Tell me about it :;
[18-Jul-2007 09:49:32] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 09:49:52] <Merciless> I'm only a placement student Started learning about all this yesterday at lunchtime so its pretty hard learning snmp, mib's, OID's and Zenoss ALL at the sasme time
[18-Jul-2007 09:50:37] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I'd start with SNMP
[18-Jul-2007 09:51:05] <Merciless> =p
[18-Jul-2007 09:51:36] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: get with the guy who designed the current monitoring system and find out what OIDs he is using to monitor the windows servers... if you can get those, I can walk you through how to use them to monitor the windows systems with ZenOSS
[18-Jul-2007 09:52:37] <Merciless> aha! well indeed I do have 2 files that he sent me.. (the guy is a real hard piece of work and left the company)
[18-Jul-2007 09:53:07] <Merciless> snmpcore.pl and that is related to in Win2ksnmp.mm
[18-Jul-2007 09:54:11] <Bulwinkle> I'd love to have a look at the snmpcore.pl
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[18-Jul-2007 09:58:08] <Merciless> Do you have an email I could forward it to?
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> my $SNMP_mib2 = "1.3.6.1.2.1";
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> my $SNMP_mib2_host = "$SNMP_mib2.25";
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.tag", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.3");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.type", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.2");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.size", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.5");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:30] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.used", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.6");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:32] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTcpu", "$SNMP_mib2_host.3.3.1.2");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:34] <Merciless> thats a bit from it
[18-Jul-2007 09:59:36] <Bulwinkle> you can copy it to pastebin.mozilla.org
[18-Jul-2007 10:00:28] <Merciless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/149614
[18-Jul-2007 10:00:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Perl Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[18-Jul-2007 10:02:00] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: can you also paste the Win2ksnmp.mm
[18-Jul-2007 10:02:47] <Merciless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/149615
[18-Jul-2007 10:02:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Perl Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[18-Jul-2007 10:03:55] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: try snmpwalk -c *COMMUNITY* -v2c *HOST* .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.3.1
[18-Jul-2007 10:04:27] <Merciless> Those files are on my desktop.. do they need to be in a certain place for that to work?
[18-Jul-2007 10:06:37] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: no
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[18-Jul-2007 10:07:01] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you need to run that command from the ZenOSS command prompt
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[18-Jul-2007 10:08:45] <Merciless> run the command
[18-Jul-2007 10:08:54] <maj> is there any reason why some IP Services would just be removed all of the suddon from monitoring
[18-Jul-2007 10:09:11] <maj> i do see it in the history log that they're removed, but doesn't say why
[18-Jul-2007 10:10:09] <Merciless> er
[18-Jul-2007 10:10:23] <Merciless> Shudnt there be a .25. in there as well Bulwinkle due to the mib2_host bit which its referring to?
[18-Jul-2007 10:11:45] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: missed that...
[18-Jul-2007 10:11:47] <Bulwinkle> yes
[18-Jul-2007 10:12:39] <Merciless> so .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1 ?
[18-Jul-2007 10:13:00] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: yes
[18-Jul-2007 10:13:45] <Merciless> SNMPv2-SMI :: mgmt.25.1.2.3.1 = No Such Object Available on this agent at this OID
[18-Jul-2007 10:16:30] <maj> anybody?
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[18-Jul-2007 10:22:58] <Bulwinkle> maj: if they are uninstalled... they will be removed on the next modeling pass
[18-Jul-2007 10:23:47] <maj> what do you mean uninstalled?
[18-Jul-2007 10:24:06] <Bulwinkle> maj: removed from the system.....
[18-Jul-2007 10:24:11] <maj> from the server that is getting monitored?
[18-Jul-2007 10:24:59] <Bulwinkle> maj: exactly
[18-Jul-2007 10:27:22] <maj> no no, http service is still there, i just readded it ;P
[18-Jul-2007 10:28:02] <maj> although the weird thing is, i had to add http manually to IP services, since it didn't show up in the list by itself... .is that because it didn't find it?
[18-Jul-2007 10:28:31] <maj> and thats why it removed it uppon the next modeling pass?
[18-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <Bulwinkle> maj: yes, Windows or Linux?
[18-Jul-2007 10:29:46] <maj> linux (centos 4.5)
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:01] <Bulwinkle> maj: the server you are monitoring or the Zenoss server?
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:23] <maj> the server that is monitoring is linux
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:26] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: did you run a snmpwalk or a snmpget?
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:28] <maj> zenoss is vmware appliance
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:43] <Merciless> snmpwalk
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:55] <Merciless> snmpwalk -c *COMMUNITY* -v2c *HOST* .1.3.6.1.2.25.1.2.3.1
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:59] <Merciless> thats what i did
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:01] <Bulwinkle> maj: as long as the http service is running it should find it. is it running now?
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:08] <maj> yup
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:08] <Merciless> (with community and host been corrected)
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:45] <maj> it didn't before, only when i manually added it, it started monitoring it
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:00] <maj> but i think it'll get dropped off again when i reboot the appliance
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:08] <maj> in fact, lemme try
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:16] <Bulwinkle> maj: wait
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:21] <maj> k
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:33] <Bulwinkle> maj: model the device again... you shouldn't need to reboot
[18-Jul-2007 10:33:14] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: go back one level until you get a response (.1.3.6.1.2.25.1.2.3 , .1.3.6.1.2.25.1.2, and so on
[18-Jul-2007 10:33:39] <maj> Bulwinkle, nope, lost it again
[18-Jul-2007 10:34:41] <Merciless> Got a response at .1.3.6.1.2 (cant past it as it was a LOAD of text and i have no up scrolly thing )
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[18-Jul-2007 10:35:42] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: put a > snmp.txt at the end
[18-Jul-2007 10:35:53] <pinger> morning folks
[18-Jul-2007 10:36:59] <Merciless> Ok don
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[18-Jul-2007 10:37:39] <pinger> how lng does it normally take for zenoss to gather the required CPU info/metrics from a windows machine with snmp-informant installed?
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:06] <pinger> s/lng/long/
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:27] <Bulwinkle> pinger: give it 15 minutes....
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:39] <Merciless> ok Bulwinkle i have snmp.txt
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:54] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: paste it to pastebin for me
[18-Jul-2007 10:39:02] <pinger> hmmm
[18-Jul-2007 10:39:52] <pinger> Bulwinkle: i've had the windows box monitored since last night, still show 4 procs of 0 MHZ speed, etc.
[18-Jul-2007 10:40:04] <pinger> <- wondering if he screwed up something
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[18-Jul-2007 10:40:37] <Merciless> How do i paste something from in the linux vm to pastebin? I dont believe i can copy and paste between vm's
[18-Jul-2007 10:40:57] <pinger> Merciless: you may need the linux tools if using vmware
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:09] * pinger throws an "installed" up there
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:12] <Merciless> no command to do it in linux/
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:39] <Bulwinkle> pinger: if they don't show up on the initial add, they wont....
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:44] <pinger> hmmm
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:52] <pinger> Bulwinkle: any suggestions to look at?
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:58] <Bulwinkle> pinger: are you getting information in the proc tab?
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:17] <pinger> i get some info in the perf tab
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:32] <pinger> and in the hardware tab I see the hard disks and the memory
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:35] <pinger> but that's it
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:48] <Bulwinkle> pinger: no CPU util?
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:50] <pinger> btw, i'm seeing this on two seperate pieces of hardware
[18-Jul-2007 10:43:01] <pinger> none
[18-Jul-2007 10:43:07] <pinger> i get free mem and paging info
[18-Jul-2007 10:44:02] <Bulwinkle> pinger: hrm
[18-Jul-2007 10:44:30] <pinger> argh...brb...this client sucks...let me relog using bitchx
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[18-Jul-2007 10:44:55] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you can look through that file and see if you see the SNMP stuff you are looking for
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[18-Jul-2007 10:45:07] <pinger> there we go
[18-Jul-2007 10:45:30] <pinger> so as I was saying, I'm getting everything else, except CPU info
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[18-Jul-2007 10:48:35] <Bulwinkle> pinger: on one of those servers do you have anything in the event tab?
[18-Jul-2007 10:48:50] <pinger> no
[18-Jul-2007 10:49:43] <pinger> let me double check the history
[18-Jul-2007 10:49:50] <pinger> anything in particular i should be looking for?
[18-Jul-2007 10:50:51] <pinger> this is the only thing I see in the history:
[18-Jul-2007 10:50:52] <pinger> Error reading value for "cpuPercentProcessorTime" on sqldb (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 is bad)
[18-Jul-2007 10:51:09] <pinger> that's from yesterday at 10:42am (lastTime)
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[18-Jul-2007 10:51:52] <Bulwinkle> pinger: thats the reason
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:10] <Bulwinkle> pinger: windows box?
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:13] <pinger> yup
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:22] <pinger> snmp-informant installed
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:26] <maj> Bulwinkle, so why do some service don't show when i model the device?
[18-Jul-2007 10:53:51] <pinger> Bulwinkle the question is, how do I fix the OIB so that any future windows machines won't have the same issue?
[18-Jul-2007 10:53:54] <Bulwinkle> pinger: herum.... thats strange
[18-Jul-2007 10:53:59] <pinger> and, of course, find the correct OIB
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[18-Jul-2007 10:54:04] <pinger> oid even
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:15] <pinger> Bulwinkle agreed
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:20] <Bulwinkle> pinger: it is working on all of my 2003 servers
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:39] <Bulwinkle> pinger: have you tried some snmpwalks
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:42] <pinger> Bulwinkle: i'm wondering if MS did something wierd with their R2 version
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:45] <pinger> yeah
[18-Jul-2007 10:55:02] <Bulwinkle> pinger: I only have R1s so I can be no help
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[18-Jul-2007 10:55:43] <pinger> it shouldn't matter though...odd
[18-Jul-2007 10:55:55] <pinger> i get some results from snmpwalks
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:07] <pinger> i finds the PerfCPU items
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:16] <pinger> s/i/it/
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:36] <Bulwinkle> pinger: try .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:45] <Merciless> Bulwinkle dont worry about me till your free.. but found all the things in Host-Resources-Mib which is the beginning of each line in snmp.txt with information of HDD, CPU, process etc
[18-Jul-2007 10:57:23] <pinger> Bulwinkle: should I try an snmpwalk of the system in question and grep out that mib?
[18-Jul-2007 10:57:43] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you can now replace the OID in the /devices/Server/Windows device template to those OIDs
[18-Jul-2007 10:58:01] <pinger> ok
[18-Jul-2007 10:58:11] <Bulwinkle> pinger: what did you get?
[18-Jul-2007 10:58:14] <Bulwinkle> anything?
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:13] <pinger> still adding it
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:22] <pinger> checking the performance template for windows devices
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:32] <pinger> cpuPercentProcessorTime 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:33] <Merciless> are all the 9600 ones relating to SNMP Informant?
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:37] <pinger> that's what is currently in there
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:41] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: yes
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:59] <Bulwinkle> pinger: did you run the snmpwalk on the OID I sent you?
[18-Jul-2007 11:00:07] <pinger> Bulwinkle: doing it now
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:11] <pinger> oo
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:14] <pinger> lots of info
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:21] <pinger> well, lots of lines
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:29] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.1.1.48 = STRING: "0"
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:37] <pinger> like that one
[18-Jul-2007 11:02:05] <Merciless> ok so got 1.3.6.1.2 as the OID for data source in device templates.. but now what?
[18-Jul-2007 11:02:42] <Bulwinkle> Merciless you have to put the OID for the full counter you are trying to pull
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:31] <Bulwinkle> pinger: how many instances of Gauge32 did you get?
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:43] <Merciless> hmm well when i snmpwalked the full number it couldnt find it.. when i did the shorter number it did appear in the result, but doesnt show what the full number is
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:46] <pinger> 32
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:49] <pinger> actually
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:56] <pinger> 40
[18-Jul-2007 11:04:19] <pinger> however, all the results are 0
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[18-Jul-2007 11:04:48] <pinger> except for:
[18-Jul-2007 11:04:48] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.9
[18-Jul-2007 11:05:03] <pinger> .1.48-51 gives me 7
[18-Jul-2007 11:05:22] <pinger> and then the super long .6.95.84.111.116.97.108 gives me 28
[18-Jul-2007 11:07:30] <Bulwinkle> pinger: try an snmpget on that long string
[18-Jul-2007 11:08:26] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.9.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 = Gauge32: 0
[18-Jul-2007 11:08:59] <pinger> same thing for my other win2k3 box, btw
[18-Jul-2007 11:09:43] <Bulwinkle> pinger: does that correspong to your CPU utilization on those boxes?
[18-Jul-2007 11:10:03] <pinger> don't think so
[18-Jul-2007 11:10:07] <pinger> let me stress it a second
[18-Jul-2007 11:12:57] <pinger> ok
[18-Jul-2007 11:13:02] <pinger> it's reporting the correct numbers
[18-Jul-2007 11:13:06] <pinger> at least for CPU util
[18-Jul-2007 11:13:51] <pinger> but i'm still not seeing any graphs...and my hardware tab isn't reporting anything
[18-Jul-2007 11:14:25] <pinger> and I know graphing is in intervals, but i see nothing for the past day
[18-Jul-2007 11:15:18] <pinger> hmmm, it might have graphed something...
[18-Jul-2007 11:15:30] <pinger> sweet...it did
[18-Jul-2007 11:15:37] <pinger> very little, but it did
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[18-Jul-2007 11:15:50] <pinger> still not reporting the proc info, but at least i know it's graphing
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[18-Jul-2007 11:21:07] <pinger> very odd
[18-Jul-2007 11:21:56] <pinger> so a random question: why does zenoss need snmp-informant?
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:14] <Merciless> so zenoss can find out the cpu information
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:21] <Merciless> using an OID thats not contained in normal SNMP
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:22] <Merciless> at a guess
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:36] <Merciless> i.e that .9600 bet wont work without SNMP informant
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[18-Jul-2007 11:22:59] <pinger> i'm just wondering if there's another OID used in standard snmp in windows that can do the same thing
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:16] <Merciless> thats what ive been looking at
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:23] <Merciless> and ive been getting close but not quite there
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:25] <pinger> i've used other snmp monitoring tools without needing to install an extra package
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:42] <Merciless> 1.3.6.1.2 is as far as i've got
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:52] <Merciless> in there is Services, HDD usage... but trying to find RAM and CPU
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:53] <pinger> i work in an environment where I have to get any added software to pass C&A
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:00] <Merciless> ye im the same pinger
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:04] <pinger>
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:06] <Merciless> we're at the same stage in our Zenoss progress
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:07] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:12] <pinger> hahaha
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:13] <pinger> indeed
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:25] <pinger> so the less software that I have to get C&A'd would be awesome
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:45] <pinger> Bulwinkle: just a note, it can't find the CPU speed info for my linux box either
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:52] <pinger> however, it correctly uidentifies the model
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[18-Jul-2007 11:27:26] <pinger> btw, is the local admin login int he zProperties ./Administrator or .\Administrator ???
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:00] <Merciless> apparently btw there are bugs in Zenios 2.0 with Windows and WMI
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:07] <Merciless> this will prob directly relate to CPU stuff
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:08] <pinger> aaahhh
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:11] <Merciless> so I'm going to download 1.1
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:33] <Merciless> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8873#8873
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - A few questions. Regarding MIB's and OID's (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Jul-2007 11:29:00] <pinger> fun
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[18-Jul-2007 11:30:03] <pinger> Merciless: i got windows services monitoring working
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:07] <pinger> it's "picky"
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:09] <pinger>
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:28] <Merciless> lol how you mean picky
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:35] <pinger> well
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:37] <Merciless> i tried monitoring clipviewer or clipbook or whatever its called
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:41] <Merciless> but it'd stay constantly up
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:48] <pinger> there needs to be fqdn
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:53] <Merciless> fqdn?
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:58] <pinger> fully qualified domain name
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:06] <pinger> you need to have proper dns or hosts setup
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:10] <pinger> IPs won't cut it for WMI
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:20] <Merciless> well this in a proper organisation network
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:21] <pinger> and make sure you have the username/password setup in the zProperties
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:27] <Merciless> aha
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:44] <pinger> domain/username or ./administrator if it's just a local account
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:50] <pinger> once you get that, everything is kosher
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:25] <pinger> i *think* it's /....
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:27] <Merciless> zWinPassword, zWinUser
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:29] <Merciless> for them?
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:31] <pinger> yup
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:44] <pinger> don't worry, the password will be covered after you save it
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:02] <pinger> then you add the servicename for the ID
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:03] <Merciless> ok so done that: /Devices /Server /Windows
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:11] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I wouldn't go back to 1.1
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:14] <pinger> like MSSQLSERVER for MS SQl Server (duh)
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:20] <pinger> then about 5 minutes later you'll get everything
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:29] <pinger> Merciless: you should be good now
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:38] <pinger> no thanks on the 1.1
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:50] <pinger> i don't want to introduce a seperate windows box to get WMI info
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:54] <Bulwinkle> I came from there and don't want to go back
[18-Jul-2007 11:34:05] <Merciless> but 1.1 worked for what i want
[18-Jul-2007 11:34:07] <pinger> Bulwinkle: so is it ./Administrator or .\Administrator?
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:32] <Merciless> Still saying clipbook viewer is running rofl
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:51] <pinger> Merciless http://forums.adventnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2418
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:51] <pinger> Merciless give it a sec
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:51] <pinger> it takes some time to get al the info
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:55] <pinger> make sure you set the service to True for monitored
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:59] <pinger> s/al/all/
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:00] <Bulwinkle> pinger: yes
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:02] <Merciless> thanks pinger
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:22] <Bulwinkle> .\Administrator
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:24] <maj> Bulwinkle, so why do some service don't show when i model the device?
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:01] <Bulwinkle> maj: good question.... do you have a firewall running on those servers?
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:22] <maj> nope, iptables is off
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:42] <maj> web server is standard apache
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:54] <pinger> Merciless: looks like that MIB didn't work
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:56] <Bulwinkle> maj: and you can access that webserver from anywhere?
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:58] <pinger> curses
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:01] <maj> ya
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:22] <Merciless> thing is.. thats the MIB the current system uses :S
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:30] <Merciless> but it wont work when I try using snmpwalk :s
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:32] <Merciless> how strange
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:33] <pinger> Merciless: lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:44] <pinger> i wonder if it'll work if we remove snmp-informant
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:00] <Merciless> good question
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:01] <Merciless> but prob not
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:04] <maj> both boxes are behind the same firewall, but it shouldn't matter since they're both on the same LAN
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:05] <Merciless> snmp informant is an extension
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:07] <Merciless> not a replacement
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[18-Jul-2007 11:39:22] <pinger> Merciless: true, but it's closed source, so who knows exactly what it's doing
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:26] <pinger> wait...is it closed source?
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:40] <Merciless> no dont think so?
[18-Jul-2007 11:40:34] <Bulwinkle> maj: wait a sec, did you go in and enable monitoring for the HTTP service?
[18-Jul-2007 11:40:58] <pinger> Merciless: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/005813.html
[18-Jul-2007 11:40:58] <maj> Bulwinkle, well, originally http didn't show up, so i added it
[18-Jul-2007 11:41:15] <maj> just on that device
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[18-Jul-2007 11:41:26] <Bulwinkle> maj: did you uncheck the monitored box next to IP Services?
[18-Jul-2007 11:41:35] <maj> ya
[18-Jul-2007 11:41:43] <maj> still not there
[18-Jul-2007 11:42:06] <Bulwinkle> maj: got me, you may want to post it in the Forums
[18-Jul-2007 11:42:36] <pinger> Merciless: i know cacti can monitor the performance stuff, maybe install cacti and grab the OIBs from it
[18-Jul-2007 11:43:00] <maj> cool, will do, but at least i know how to recreate the problem, by remodeling the dev
[18-Jul-2007 11:43:26] <Merciless> i dont want to install anything on the windows servers lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:12] <Merciless> i quote
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:13] <Merciless> " and the host resources MIB.
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:15] <Merciless> "
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:26] <Merciless> Which is lies because the host resources MIB isn't working lol!
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:29] <pinger> cacti = linux
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:48] <Merciless> im so confused why .25 is unavailable on it rofl
[18-Jul-2007 11:47:36] <maj> Bulwinkle, so all the IP services that show up in the list are identified by snmpwalk?
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[18-Jul-2007 11:50:25] <Merciless> hmmmmmm... rlly am confused why .25 mgmt2 can't be found when doing an snmpwalk
[18-Jul-2007 11:50:29] <Merciless> but its been used byt he current system
[18-Jul-2007 11:50:30] <Merciless> :S
[18-Jul-2007 11:50:51] <Bulwinkle> maj: not sure
[18-Jul-2007 11:51:20] <maj> ok, thx for ur help
[18-Jul-2007 11:52:30] <pinger> Merciless: what distro are you using
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <Merciless> Server 2003
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <pinger> what do you have zenoss installed on?
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:33] <Merciless> but as i say, current monitoring system uses the OID with .25.
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:37] <Merciless> so it shud be there :S:S:S lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:00] <pinger> you have zenoss running on windows?
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:23] <Merciless> VMWare Linux Appliance
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:26] <pinger> <- getting frustrated with snmp-informant
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:29] <Merciless> rofl
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:30] <Merciless> how come
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:32] <pinger> Merciless: AAAHHH
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[18-Jul-2007 11:54:38] <pinger> because I don't want to use it
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:39] * Merciless calms down pinger
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:40] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:42] <pinger> makes C&A difficult
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:45] <Merciless> so dont use it.. there must be a way not to!
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:57] <pinger> well, that's what is frustrating
[18-Jul-2007 11:55:47] <pinger> i'm very happy with the WMI implementation
[18-Jul-2007 11:55:54] <pinger> just not the SNMP implementation
[18-Jul-2007 11:56:20] <craigp> anyone know why after creating several users none of them can log in? only 'admin' works for me right now...they are all set to Manager level
[18-Jul-2007 11:57:43] <Merciless> right
[18-Jul-2007 11:57:52] <Merciless> the IT Consultant at the company is gna have a go
[18-Jul-2007 11:58:52] <pinger> hehe
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:35] <Merciless> LOL
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:35] <pinger> ooo
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:37] <Merciless> when he snmp walks it
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:37] <pinger> lunch time
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:41] <Merciless> he gets LOADS back
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:42] <Merciless> when i do
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:43] <pinger> Merciless: ?
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:44] <Merciless> it doesnt exist
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:46] <pinger> HAHAHA
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:48] <Bulwinkle> craigp: did you set them passwords?
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:55] <Merciless> thats just fkin god pissing on me
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:59] <Merciless> scuse my language
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:01] <pinger> Merciless: what snmpwalk command are you issuing?
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:24] <Merciless> snmpwalk -c xxxxx -v2c 169.254.39.100 .1.3.6.1.2.25
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:55] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::mgmt.25 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:57] <pinger> that's what I get
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:15] <Merciless> same
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:19] <Merciless> take away the .25 at the end though
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:21] <Merciless> and u'll be surprised
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:35] <craigp> Bulwinkle: I did set passwords
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:18] <Bulwinkle> craigp: what version?
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:28] <pinger> right
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:37] <pinger> cause .1.3.6.1.2 = mgmt
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:40] <Merciless> yus
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:41] <Merciless> but in there
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:43] <Merciless> are some things
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:46] <Merciless> that are in the .25 oid
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:53] <Merciless> fkin confusing me
[18-Jul-2007 12:03:07] <craigp> Bulwinkle: Zenoss 1.1.1
[18-Jul-2007 12:04:45] <pinger> that's good info
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:04] <Bulwinkle> craigp: sorry, no experience with 1.1 .... I'd suggest upgrading to 2.0
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:14] <craigp> thanks Bulwinkle
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:16] <pinger> try .1.3.6.1.2.hrProcessorLoad.1
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:40] <pinger> well
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:46] <pinger> hrProcessorLoad.1 = cpu info
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:56] <pinger> how to get the oid from that, not sure
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:07] <pinger> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrProcessorLoad.1 = INTEGER: 0
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <Merciless> thats my point
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:30] <Merciless> should be .25
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:37] <pinger> how do you know?
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:09] <Merciless> because its part of the HOST-Resources MIB which is .25
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:20] <Merciless> Plus the current system gets it from .25
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:24] <pinger> FOUND IT
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:26] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:26] <pinger> 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2.1
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:29] <pinger> WOOOO!!!!!
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:30] <Merciless> but that wont work
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:32] <Merciless> :s
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:34] <Merciless> when u walk it
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:40] <pinger> try that OIB
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:18] <Merciless> ur sexy
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:19] <Merciless> =)
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:23] <pinger> change the last number to the number for the proc
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:24] <pinger> LOL
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:27] <pinger> i have 4 procs
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:30] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:33] <pinger> change the last to 1,2,3,4
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:36] <pinger> SWEET
[18-Jul-2007 12:09:10] <pinger> gonna remove snmp-informant and see if it works
[18-Jul-2007 12:13:36] <pinger> now we wait
[18-Jul-2007 12:17:22] <pinger> nope
[18-Jul-2007 12:17:25] <pinger> didn't work
[18-Jul-2007 12:18:18] <pinger> probably have to change the name too
[18-Jul-2007 12:18:19] <pinger> guh
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[18-Jul-2007 12:34:27] <Darkfang> Is there any way to get rid of all hardware events?
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[18-Jul-2007 12:34:59] <Darkfang> I'm bored of getting 1000 events a day when people shutdown their computers so the switch interface is not operational anymore
[18-Jul-2007 12:44:15] <tty01> when creating a graph is megabytes a valid entry for units?
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[18-Jul-2007 13:00:40] <KernelPanik> If a service goes down, can zenoss restart that service remotly, on linux and windows?? anyone
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[18-Jul-2007 13:24:35] <solarce> KernelPanik: I suspect you'd have to script such things
[18-Jul-2007 13:25:24] <KernelPanik> you mean using zenoss or how??
[18-Jul-2007 13:25:40] <solarce> I think zenoss can execute commands when events occur
[18-Jul-2007 13:31:07] <KernelPanik> oh I see, write a script that exectes the restart of that service.
[18-Jul-2007 13:31:24] <KernelPanik> and zenoss kinda kicks it off according to the event
[18-Jul-2007 13:31:38] <KernelPanik> hum...I was hoping it can do it via snmp or and agent type style
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[18-Jul-2007 13:32:18] <solarce> that's a question for someone with more experience than me, I downloaded the vm, set it up to watch my firewalls and haven't had time to touch it for a month
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[18-Jul-2007 13:45:06] <jp10558> anyone able to run remote commands on a windows machine with 2.0.2? I'm just getting a timeout with winexe
[18-Jul-2007 13:58:01] <maj> anybody know why modeler would not see http service
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[18-Jul-2007 14:52:23] <Bulwinkle> maj: did you post to forum?
[18-Jul-2007 14:55:46] <maj> yea
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[18-Jul-2007 14:56:14] <maj> Bulwinkle, i am using the snmpd.conf from zenoss appliance
[18-Jul-2007 14:56:32] <maj> on monitored machines
[18-Jul-2007 14:56:35] <maj> could that be a problem
[18-Jul-2007 14:56:36] <maj> ?
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[18-Jul-2007 14:58:11] <Bulwinkle> maj: nope, shouldn't be
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[18-Jul-2007 14:59:19] <maj> windows servers work fine tho
[18-Jul-2007 14:59:23] <maj> *shrug*
[18-Jul-2007 14:59:28] <maj> we'll see if somebody posts
[18-Jul-2007 15:06:05] <kells> I'm thinking of putting a software inventory into Zenoss for some AIX boxes, and I'm looking for a place to start adding in code.
[18-Jul-2007 15:06:28] <kells> I'm thinking that it might be in Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp, but it's still a little opaque to me.
[18-Jul-2007 15:07:01] <kells> Does anyone have any hints?
[18-Jul-2007 15:07:50] <kells> Hmmm... that wasn't clear. I'm looking for sample python code to populate Zenoss that I can use once I've collected the data.
[18-Jul-2007 15:09:13] <kells> There seems to be the basics of something in Products/ZenModel/Software*, but I'm still a little confused as to how one would use it.
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[18-Jul-2007 15:19:40] <davetoo> so where si SNMP Max failures configured?
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[18-Jul-2007 15:21:32] <davetoo> n/m
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[18-Jul-2007 15:23:39] <MoreDakka> Hallo (if anyone is alive). Anyone have a template that I can use for APC UPS that will measure the temp of the batteries and In/Out Voltage?
[18-Jul-2007 15:33:08] <bzed> MoreDakka: does your UPS have an network connection? I think our usv shares those values viw snmp
[18-Jul-2007 15:33:28] <bzed> but I didn;t have the time to setup the monitoring for it
[18-Jul-2007 15:33:59] <MoreDakka> Yeah it's a smart ups 750 w/ network card. I can't seem to figure out which OIDs are the ones that I want and I was hoping someone would hav built an RRD for this already ;-)
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[18-Jul-2007 15:38:50] <bzed> MoreDakka: I'm pretty sure that apc has the mibs to download on their homepage
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[18-Jul-2007 15:58:55] <rabbit7_> hey there i have some problem with my fresh zenoss installation.
[18-Jul-2007 15:59:00] <rabbit7_> the submenu does not show
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[18-Jul-2007 16:29:34] <MoreDakka> Can zenoss alert per port? if we only want port 1, 7, 15, and 23 of a 24 port switch monitored can I alert on each on individually?
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[18-Jul-2007 16:49:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: yes
[18-Jul-2007 16:50:45] <MoreDakka> I'm looking for how to do that. Do I have to setup an alert with x amount of rules (x being the ports that I want to monitor)?
[18-Jul-2007 16:51:05] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming it's monitored through snmp since there isn't a way that I know to ping a port ;-)
[18-Jul-2007 16:51:13] <creiht> MoreDakka: I think you set up the basic alert, and then have it print the port information on the alert
[18-Jul-2007 16:51:20] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: can you go in to the switch under devices?
[18-Jul-2007 16:52:17] <MoreDakka> yep, see ports 1-24 + vlan1 + null0
[18-Jul-2007 16:52:33] <MoreDakka> (cisco 2950)
[18-Jul-2007 16:53:03] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: are you recieving traps to the ZenOSS server from that switch?
[18-Jul-2007 16:53:46] <MoreDakka> yes, I can see when I plug and unplug devices from the switch. But the alert for that is very cryptic.
[18-Jul-2007 16:54:25] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: you can change the alerts... you should be able to change the monitor to false for every port you don't want to monitor
[18-Jul-2007 16:55:37] <MoreDakka> well my boss just menitooned that he wants all the ports monitored...sheesh make up your mind... ;-)
[18-Jul-2007 16:55:48] <MoreDakka> So traps is the way to go huh?
[18-Jul-2007 16:56:08] <MoreDakka> Which trap is the best to enable on the cisco switch?
[18-Jul-2007 16:56:10] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: Definitely... for my ethernet ports on switches I do traps....
[18-Jul-2007 16:56:54] <Bulwinkle> snmp-server enable traps linkup linkdown
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[18-Jul-2007 16:58:10] <MoreDakka> I don't have linkup or linkdown on my 2950
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> bridge Enable SNMP STP Bridge MIB traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> c2900 Enable SNMP c2900 traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> cluster Enable Cluster traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> config Enable SNMP config traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> copy-config Enable SNMP config-copy traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:37] <MoreDakka> entity Enable SNMP entity traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:39] <MoreDakka> envmon Enable SNMP environmental monitor traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:41] <MoreDakka> flash Enable SNMP FLASH notifications
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:43] <MoreDakka> hsrp Enable SNMP HSRP traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:45] <MoreDakka> mac-notification Enable SNMP MAC Notification traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:47] <MoreDakka> port-security Enable SNMP port security traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:49] <MoreDakka> rtr Enable SNMP Response Time Reporter traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:51] <MoreDakka> snmp Enable SNMP traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:53] <MoreDakka> stpx Enable SNMP STPX MIB traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:54] <Bulwinkle> DOOD STOP FLooding!
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:55] <MoreDakka> syslog Enable SNMP syslog traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:57] <MoreDakka> vlan-membership Enable SNMP VLAN membership traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:59] <MoreDakka> vlancreate Enable SNMP VLAN created traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:01] <MoreDakka> vlandelete Enable SNMP VLAN deleted traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:03] <MoreDakka> vtp Enable SNMP VTP traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:07] <MoreDakka> uhh...
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:11] <MoreDakka> hmm....
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:23] <Bulwinkle> its not under the host
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:26] <Bulwinkle> BYe all
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:28] <MoreDakka> don't like people yelling about flooding so I'll use that website I can never remember
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:48] <MoreDakka> Not under the host?
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:48] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: some channels will kick/ban you
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:50] <Bulwinkle> no
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:54] <MoreDakka> what do you mean?
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:57] <Bulwinkle> general snmp-server
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:57] <MoreDakka> yeah that makes sense ;-)
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[18-Jul-2007 17:02:33] <rabbit7_> is any of you using zenoss in enterprise ?
[18-Jul-2007 17:07:41] <shakeSpear> what do you mean by "in enterprise" exactly?
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[18-Jul-2007 17:24:24] <MoreDakka> .
[18-Jul-2007 17:24:32] <solarce> shakeSpear: for monitoring the warp core and the like
[18-Jul-2007 17:24:59] <solarce> shakeSpear: geordi is busy writing a plugin to send alerts to his eyeband
[18-Jul-2007 17:29:05] <shakeSpear> wow
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[18-Jul-2007 17:37:14] <rabbit7_> means in an environment with critical SLA where you pay fees for downtimes etc
[18-Jul-2007 17:41:49] <MoreDakka> is there a way to get a cisco 2950 to give more of a trap when it's alerting that a port is down or up...like a port number?
[18-Jul-2007 17:41:51] <solarce> five nines!
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[18-Jul-2007 17:58:07] <shakeSpear> ok - five nines - doesn't this need an redundant zenoss installation with automatic failover?
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[18-Jul-2007 18:04:26] <MoreDakka> Can traps clear traps? (example port generates a linkDown, and a linkUp would clear it)
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[18-Jul-2007 18:13:11] <shakeSpear> is someone using "relative Thresholds"? There exists an RRDRelativeThresh.py in zenoss 2.0.2 - but no idea how to use it
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[18-Jul-2007 19:50:32] <KernelPanik> questions: what does the thicker red line mean, when looks at the graphs under OS, thanks
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[18-Jul-2007 22:00:38] <davetoo> hmm...
[18-Jul-2007 22:00:40] <davetoo> this is no so good
[18-Jul-2007 22:01:06] <davetoo> I just upgraded a 1.1.2 system to 2.0.2
[18-Jul-2007 22:01:28] <davetoo> but I'm not getting the little pulldown menu/triangle next to the Status tab
[18-Jul-2007 22:01:39] <davetoo> like I do on my 2.0.0 development system
[18-Jul-2007 22:04:44] <davetoo> oh
[18-Jul-2007 22:05:00] <davetoo> found a zenmigrate fix on the list
[18-Jul-2007 22:05:09] <weez> i am not sure if this is possible, but I will ask away. could anyone enlighten me as to how I could create a mapping to detect if the same event fired twice in 30 seconds? I want to fire off a more urgent event to look at it
[18-Jul-2007 22:05:55] <weez> 30 seconds might be a tad high...
[18-Jul-2007 22:06:03] <weez> more like 5 minutes or something..
[18-Jul-2007 22:10:24] <weez> hmm... it looks like i might be able to do this with evt.lastTime
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[18-Jul-2007 23:17:18] <hspcd> does anyone know how to make Zenoss point to an alternate version of Python? I running CentOS 4.4 that has Python 2.3.4 from the repos. I've also installed from source a much newer version of python but in Zenoss / About / Versions it still shows the 2.3.4 version.
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[19-Jul-2007 00:19:24] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Open Source Community Interaction: Is More Less? - 10 Jul, 07:04PM
[19-Jul-2007 00:19:25] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=140
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[19-Jul-2007 00:24:26] <DaveToo> heh
[19-Jul-2007 00:24:43] <DaveToo> zWmiMonitorIgoner is still there
[19-Jul-2007 00:24:48] <DaveToo> I a Goner
[19-Jul-2007 00:32:34] <DaveToo> How odd ...
[19-Jul-2007 00:32:59] <DaveToo> zCollectorPlugins is completely empty at all levels after upgrading from 1.1.2 to 2.0.2
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[19-Jul-2007 00:46:45] <DaveToo> crap
[19-Jul-2007 00:46:54] <DaveToo> why can't I rediscover the routers
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[19-Jul-2007 04:48:00] <Merciless> any experts around?
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[19-Jul-2007 05:22:24] <shakeSpear> is someone using "relative Thresholds"? There exists an RRDRelativeThresh.py in zenoss 2.0.2 - but no idea how to use it
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[19-Jul-2007 05:39:02] <F350> hello
[19-Jul-2007 05:39:23] <F350> i have a problem in the event console if someone can help
[19-Jul-2007 05:39:29] <Merciless> depends what it is
[19-Jul-2007 05:39:39] <F350> i already have a topic on the forum
[19-Jul-2007 05:40:00] <F350> i'm unable to add more fields in the event console
[19-Jul-2007 05:40:12] <F350> like for example the eventClass field
[19-Jul-2007 05:40:28] <F350> and default sorting is not working
[19-Jul-2007 05:41:07] <F350> i had 2.0 and everything was ok
[19-Jul-2007 05:42:18] <F350> i thought it was the upgrade that messed up my setup so i removed the events database en the /usr/local/zenosss directory
[19-Jul-2007 05:42:31] <F350> and installed everything again (on the same server)
[19-Jul-2007 05:42:39] <F350> still the prob persists
[19-Jul-2007 05:43:09] <F350> do u have a problem addind fields in the event console ?
[19-Jul-2007 05:43:40] <Merciless> i havent tried
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:09] <F350> i only have the "device", "summary", "last time" and "count"
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:17] <F350> do u have the same ?
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:42] <Merciless> first time, event class, component
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:45] <Merciless> i have them 3 as well
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:50] <Merciless> for default result field
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:05] <F350> u have the 2.0.2 ?
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:34] <F350> in the 2.0 i had this
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:40] <Merciless> na just 2.0.0
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:51] <Merciless> what are the pro's of upgrading to 2.0.2?
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[19-Jul-2007 05:46:48] <F350> well the interface naming and some bug fixes
[19-Jul-2007 05:47:14] <F350> but now i have a bigger bug lol
[19-Jul-2007 05:50:50] <Merciless> lol what type of bug fixes? im havin a few probs with 2.0.0
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[19-Jul-2007 06:03:37] <F350> did u check the chengelog ?
[19-Jul-2007 06:03:40] <F350> changelog
[19-Jul-2007 06:03:47] <F350> it should be somewhere on the site
[19-Jul-2007 06:04:31] <F350> Zenoss is a great soft, however the community is not active
[19-Jul-2007 06:04:52] <shakeSpear> Is it possible to reference cProperties like zProperties in a command-template (like ${$device/cOracleSID}
[19-Jul-2007 06:05:04] <F350> this is my point of view of course
[19-Jul-2007 06:05:18] <Merciless> Tbh, i've found the irc channnel and forum really helpful so far im slowly getting to a fully working system
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:15] <shakeSpear> F350: I think the community is growing. to my mind you can't compare the community activity of the relatively new zenoss with e.g. the "old horses" cacti and nagios
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:23] <F350> that's beyond my knowledge shakespear
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:44] <F350> i'm not comparing of course
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:55] <shakeSpear> ok
[19-Jul-2007 06:07:14] <F350> maybe you are right, i was expecting more
[19-Jul-2007 06:07:42] <F350> i saw a thread on the forum about the community and support
[19-Jul-2007 06:07:58] <F350> it'a a poll i think
[19-Jul-2007 06:08:43] <Merciless> hmmm i undersatnd that to work out Mem utilisation you gotta do Sum of hsSWrunperfmen divided by hrMemorySize
[19-Jul-2007 06:08:45] <F350> and there was an idea about identidying developpers on the forum, i find it great
[19-Jul-2007 06:08:48] <Merciless> how would you put that into a trheshold :S:S:S
[19-Jul-2007 06:11:57] <F350> ?
[19-Jul-2007 06:15:29] <Merciless> ?
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[19-Jul-2007 07:44:57] <hspcd> does anyone know how to make Zenoss point to an alternate version of Python? I running CentOS 4.4 that has Python 2.3.4 from the repos. I've also installed from source a much newer version of python but in Zenoss / About / Versions it still shows the 2.3.4 version.
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[19-Jul-2007 08:16:07] <dfp> Hi, couple questions, hope someone can help. Is it possible (how?) to disable authentication (login)? Or can basic HTTP auth be used for authentication/automatic login?
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[19-Jul-2007 08:19:25] <jp10558> Anyone using the new winexe?
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[19-Jul-2007 08:23:07] <KA> hi all, I've a question about zenpacks
[19-Jul-2007 08:23:41] <KA> it seems that when I install a zenpack, with skins, skin's directory is installed but no skin files
[19-Jul-2007 08:24:00] <KA> at least I cannot see them in portal_skins/manage within the created folder
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[19-Jul-2007 08:26:20] <Darkfang> hi
[19-Jul-2007 08:29:21] <Darkfang> anyone in here?
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[19-Jul-2007 08:33:54] <KA> Darkfang: it seems not
[19-Jul-2007 08:35:07] <Darkfang> i got a couple of questions
[19-Jul-2007 08:36:03] <KA> Darkfang: me too
[19-Jul-2007 08:38:29] <jp10558> It looks like anyone who knows about it isn't here right now
[19-Jul-2007 08:39:21] <jp10558> I think the problem is that v 2.0.2 doesn't seem to be ready for prime time yet... I was hoping ,but I can't get it to notice a service on a test windows machine is down.
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[19-Jul-2007 09:26:44] <Darkfang> anyone working with check_log?
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[19-Jul-2007 09:28:53] <inktechsupport> hi there
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[19-Jul-2007 09:29:50] <inktechsupport> I'm trying to install Zenoss 2.0.2 from source to a Kubuntu system and getting the error "unable to create the initial zenoss object database"
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:02] <inktechsupport> I've looked around for a solution but only got vague answers, with the most specific being "zope wasn't configured to use zeo (zope.conf file wasn't being used)"
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:09] <inktechsupport> but not sure if that is my problem
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:36] <Darkfang> I had that once
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:49] <Darkfang> i recompiled it and it worked
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:54] <inktechsupport> does anyone know how I can identify what's preventing the initial zenoss object database from being created?
[19-Jul-2007 09:32:10] <inktechsupport> I tried recompiling, it just throws the same error
[19-Jul-2007 09:33:31] <inktechsupport> someone else suggested checking the zenhome variable is set. I double checked using echo $ZENHOME and it is
[19-Jul-2007 09:35:14] <inktechsupport> does anyone know what else could be causing the problem? I can provide more information if necessary
[19-Jul-2007 09:36:35] <Darkfang> did you added $ZENHOME/bin to your path?
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:33] <inktechsupport> just done an echo $PATH and it returns
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:33] <inktechsupport> /usr/local/zenoss/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:44] <inktechsupport> so yes
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:48] <inktechsupport>
[19-Jul-2007 09:38:49] <inktechsupport> I checked the database and the zenoss user and events database have been created correctly, so I'm not sure if it's an issue with the database permissions
[19-Jul-2007 09:39:56] <Darkfang> it's loading the data into zeo not into mysql
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:01] <_zack> hi all, I need to add a property to a zenoss object via a python script: I found how to read property values via .getProperty() but not how to set it, any idea?
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:04] <Darkfang> so it may not come from here
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:16] <KA> _zack: ehi zack
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:25] <_zack> KA: hi
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[19-Jul-2007 09:41:38] <inktechsupport> hmm so the problem is with zeo/zope. Darkfang do you know how I can identify the cause, is there a config file or something where I should check some settings?
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:11] <Darkfang> ry to look in /usr/local/zenoss/log
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:25] <_zack> uhm "._setProperty" seems to do the trick, but I'm kinda scared of the heading '_'
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:34] <Darkfang> ^
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:36] <Darkfang> ^^
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:44] <Darkfang> anyone using ckec_log here?
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:50] <Darkfang> check_log*
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:54] <inktechsupport> having a look in the log
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[19-Jul-2007 09:45:45] <inktechsupport> I have a few info messages and one warning "ZODB.FileStorage Ignoring index for /usr/local/zenoss/var/Data.fs"
[19-Jul-2007 09:46:20] <Darkfang> if it's a warning t shouldn't matter i think
[19-Jul-2007 09:46:46] <inktechsupport> but the INFO message after that says "ZEO.StorageServer (8448) StorageServer created RW with storages:1:RW:/usr/local/zenoss/var/Data.fs"
[19-Jul-2007 09:47:46] <inktechsupport> then it says INFO "ZEO.zrpc (8448) listening on ('', 8100)
[19-Jul-2007 09:48:02] <inktechsupport> shouldn't there be something between those quotes, like "localhost"?
[19-Jul-2007 09:48:24] <inktechsupport> or does blank infer localhost?
[19-Jul-2007 09:49:11] <Darkfang> no
[19-Jul-2007 09:49:12] <Darkfang> it's ok
[19-Jul-2007 09:49:15] <Darkfang> INFO ZEO.zrpc (25008) listening on ('', 8100)
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[19-Jul-2007 09:50:08] <inktechsupport> ok, cool
[19-Jul-2007 09:50:38] <Darkfang> did you check in zenoss install log for previous errors?
[19-Jul-2007 09:51:48] <inktechsupport> yeah, because I'd had the install fail a few times first for other reasons because I didn't have autoconf, swig or python-setuptools installed
[19-Jul-2007 09:52:20] <inktechsupport> I'll check it again for anything, but the zeo stuff seems to be done after the log is finished
[19-Jul-2007 09:52:53] <Darkfang> did you removed everything from /usr/local/zenoss after your previous failed install?
[19-Jul-2007 09:53:10] <inktechsupport> I tried a make clean
[19-Jul-2007 09:53:38] <inktechsupport> I'll try it again with a rm -rf /usr/local/zenoss then
[19-Jul-2007 09:54:26] <Darkfang> yeah
[19-Jul-2007 09:54:30] <Darkfang> could be good ^^
[19-Jul-2007 09:55:05] <DaveToo> man ... my upgrade to 2.0.2 didn't go so smoothly. Got about 8,000 alert emails all at once
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[19-Jul-2007 09:55:29] <DaveToo> It tried to monitor all my Ciscos via WMI
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[19-Jul-2007 09:58:11] <inktechsupport> I've been trying with the password for the Zenoss "admin" user being different from the zenoss mysql user, would that cause problems?
[19-Jul-2007 09:58:42] <Darkfang> errr
[19-Jul-2007 09:58:46] <Darkfang> i don't know
[19-Jul-2007 09:58:51] <Darkfang> i've used the same
[19-Jul-2007 09:59:16] <inktechsupport> if this compile doesn't work, I'll try making them the same just to see if it works
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[19-Jul-2007 10:01:38] <DaveToo> Mine aren't the same
[19-Jul-2007 10:02:37] <inktechsupport> DaveToo, did you install from source or from an rpm (or other)
[19-Jul-2007 10:02:51] <DaveToo> source tarball
[19-Jul-2007 10:03:13] <inktechsupport> ok, cool
[19-Jul-2007 10:04:22] <inktechsupport> I used to have v1 on a Fedora system, installed from an rpm, but trying to install 2.0.2 to a Kubuntu system from source now and not having much luck
[19-Jul-2007 10:04:36] <Merciless> anyone know how to create thresholds based on calculations from multiple OID's?
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[19-Jul-2007 10:09:02] <inktechsupport> nope, my compile just failed again, "Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database (this can take a few minutes) unable to create the initial Zenoss object database"
[19-Jul-2007 10:10:10] <inktechsupport> the error message is displayed immediately after the "(this can take a few minutes)", there's no pause of even a few seconds, never mind minutes ;-)
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:18] <inktechsupport> ah, just spotted this in the zenbuild.log:
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:18] <inktechsupport> ERROR 1235 (42000) at line 81: This version of MySQL doesn't yet support 'multiple triggers w
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:18] <inktechsupport> ith the same action time and event for one table'
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:52] <inktechsupport> or is that because the database already existed and it tried to create the same trigger again
[19-Jul-2007 10:14:26] <DaveToo> well the object (Zeo) database and the Mysql Events database are completely different things
[19-Jul-2007 10:16:05] <inktechsupport> ah, the next error is possibly the cause though: Traceback (most recent call last) <lots of Python files listed> with the last being "File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/ustr.py", line 18, in <module>" "AttributeError: 'wrapper_descriptor' object has no attribute 'im_func'
[19-Jul-2007 10:16:28] <inktechsupport> I'll give it a google
[19-Jul-2007 10:21:37] <inktechsupport> I can post the full traceback here if anyone has an idea what it might be
[19-Jul-2007 10:25:20] <inktechsupport> ah, just found one post that says "Zope 2.9 requires Python 2.4, and specifically does not want Python 2.5."
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[19-Jul-2007 10:26:04] <DaveToo> hmm
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:05] <Darkfang> inktech: for the trigger it's because there was already the former one from the previous install
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:09] <Merciless> morning Bulwinkle how are you
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:25] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: 'morning. doing alright, yourself?
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:27] <inktechsupport> is Zenoss 2.0.2 using Zope 2.9?
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:28] <DaveToo> I thought zenoss used it's own python
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:36] <maj> Bulwinkle, no luck on forums
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:43] <maj> with yesterday's problem ;(
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:50] <Bulwinkle> maj: don't know what to tell you
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:13] <Darkfang> zenoss use default system python but copy it in /usr/local/zenoss to keep working if there is any update
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:25] <DaveToo> ah
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:30] <maj> is there a sample of all open snmpd.conf somewhere?
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:39] <maj> that reports everything
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:42] <Merciless> Bulwinkle : I'm not bad thanks A little tired, but I guess that's what computer jobs do to ya
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:47] <inktechsupport> I'll try downgrading Python then
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:50] <DaveToo> right here: "rocommunity foobar"
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:52] <inktechsupport> that's gonna be fun
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:56] <inktechsupport>
[19-Jul-2007 10:28:23] <DaveToo> maj if it's net-snmp, replace your entire snmpd.conf with that one line
[19-Jul-2007 10:28:33] <DaveToo> unless it's on a public interface,
[19-Jul-2007 10:28:40] <DaveToo> then you may still want access controls
[19-Jul-2007 10:29:00] <maj> dave, what one line?
[19-Jul-2007 10:29:08] <DaveToo> [07:27] <DaveToo> right here: "rocommunity foobar"
[19-Jul-2007 10:29:53] <maj> uhhhh
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:02] <maj> so i'll just have one line in there?
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <inktechsupport> do I have to downgrade all of python, or just the python-dev package that I installed as said in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <maj> rocommunity public
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <maj> ?
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <DaveToo> yes
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:18] <maj> interesting
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:21] <maj> lemme try
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:37] <DaveToo> "rocommunity" is an alias/macro for a bunch of SNMPv1 stuff
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:46] <maj> oh, ic
[19-Jul-2007 10:32:13] <maj> ok, lets try to remodel nwo
[19-Jul-2007 10:33:09] <baffle> Is there any team working on an agent for ZenOss?
[19-Jul-2007 10:34:07] <Bulwinkle> baffle: what kind of agent?
[19-Jul-2007 10:34:10] <DaveToo> Agent to do what?
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:19] <maj> nope, works, but just as before
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:39] <maj> hrm, i guess i could try setting up a bsd or something, maybe its apache
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:44] <DaveToo> what's the target system?
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:47] <maj> that craps out
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:51] <baffle> Bulwinkle: A local agent to avoid having to use SNMP for everything. An agent can for example poll statistics locally at a fast rate, and report back to the server at set intervals.
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:04] <DaveToo> maj what system is that snmpd on
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:19] <maj> centos43, rhel5
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:37] <baffle> Bulwinkle: I know that you can do a lot of stuff via SNMP and small scripts, but a good local agent will be better in some cases.
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:42] <maj> and rhel4
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:43] <Bulwinkle> baffle: not that I am aware of.... a lot of people are opposed to installing agents on everything
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:53] <maj> DaveToo, here is my problem
[19-Jul-2007 10:37:33] <maj> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2781
[19-Jul-2007 10:37:33] <Bulwinkle> baffle: plus a lot of OSs don't allow the installation of AGENTS or don't warranty their systems with them installed... kind of a dumb way to do things IMHO
[19-Jul-2007 10:37:33] <baffle> Bulwinkle: It would be an extra, not mandatory. ZenOss is primarly an event destination/snmp poller.
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:01] <Bulwinkle> baffle: the best way to do system monitoring is through ieee standards
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:14] <DaveToo> Solaris SNMP is teh suck, though
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:28] <DaveToo> and SNMP is IETF, no?
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:38] <jp10558> Weird, I'm getting SNMP down on one of my test machines
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:41] <jp10558> It's windows
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:54] <jp10558> XPSP2, and the SNMP service is running from a local check...
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:01] <DaveToo> maj I don't really know how the ipServices stuff works yet, but it's not via snmp
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:09] <DaveToo> not related as far as I know
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:19] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:19] <DaveToo> it's port scans
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:27] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: make sure you can do a snmpwalk on it from your ZenOSS system
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:28] <DaveToo> which zenoss are you using?
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[19-Jul-2007 10:42:52] <jp10558> sorry, 2.0.2
[19-Jul-2007 10:43:57] <kells> bullwinkle: I think that you're forgetting a few things with the statement "the best way...."
[19-Jul-2007 10:43:57] <kells> a) there's always a lot of different interpretations of any standard
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:31] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle, did you get the job?
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:36] <kells> b) SNMP doesn't work well for some things. For instance, monitoring processes via SNMP is a bit of a bad way to do things because you need to grab almost the entire process table EVERY polling cycle.
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:42] <maj> i donno if its the apache install or what
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:44] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:45] <kells> c) there are always exceptions.
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:59] <maj> maybe these enterprise linuxes lock apache down pretty hard
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:05] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: nope
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:08] <MoreDakka> Booooooo
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:09] <maj>
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:19] <MoreDakka> that sucks
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:30] <kells> (for any given definitionof "always", "exceptions" and "best"
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[19-Jul-2007 10:46:10] <DaveToo> I'm stoked that I just learned how to monitor BIND stats via SNMP
[19-Jul-2007 10:46:25] <DaveToo> found a script that uses net-snmp "exec" function
[19-Jul-2007 10:46:27] <kells> As a total aside, it appears that zenoss 2.0.3 is available from sourceforge.net. My download's done!
[19-Jul-2007 10:48:47] <MoreDakka> DaveTooo: Do you have a linky?
[19-Jul-2007 10:48:56] <MoreDakka> I'm also interested in that.
[19-Jul-2007 10:49:00] <inktechsupport> oo! I might try to see if that will install :-D
[19-Jul-2007 10:50:43] <inktechsupport> link here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=163126
[19-Jul-2007 10:50:43] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Files (at sourceforge.net)
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[19-Jul-2007 10:52:08] <jrohw> mornin' all
[19-Jul-2007 10:53:05] <Darkfang> any one monitoring logs with zenoss?
[19-Jul-2007 10:54:36] <jrohw> I'm just starting in on zenoss, but one thing that bugs me is that I can't figure out how to change the poll interval for the performance stats.. or the http monitor zenpack
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:17] <inktechsupport> for what it's worth, installing Python 2.4 (alongside Python 2.5) has fixed my issue with the error "unable to create the initial zenoss object database"
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:28] <jrohw> under monitors - perf .. I've changed all the intervals to 60s except for the config one.. but the graphs are still on 5 minute intervals
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:30] <jrohw> any ideas?
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:31] <inktechsupport> but now going to scrap the install and download 2.0.3 :'(
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:57] <inktechsupport> thanks for your help Darkfang
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <DaveToo> MoreDakka: http://forums.cacti.net/post-10211.html&highlight=
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <adytum-bot> Title: BIND 8/9 based DNS monitoring (at forums.cacti.net)
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <Darkfang> you're welcome
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <DaveToo> I modified the script there slightly
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <Darkfang> i spent 3 days trying to install it properly
[19-Jul-2007 10:57:07] <MoreDakka> DaveToo: Thanks, I'll take a look into that and see if I can get it working ;-)
[19-Jul-2007 10:59:03] <jp10558> what's the upgrade plan to go from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3?
[19-Jul-2007 10:59:07] <jp10558> any changelogs?
[19-Jul-2007 10:59:25] <jp10558> so far, 2.0.2 isn't seeing win services going down either in my testing
[19-Jul-2007 11:02:02] <DaveToo> this "not in topology" stuff is bugging me
[19-Jul-2007 11:02:20] <DaveToo> How the hell do I display/verify/fix the topology
[19-Jul-2007 11:02:31] <DaveToo> not having much luck trying to rediscover routers
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:07] <inktechsupport> jp, I'm downloading it now, but have a slow connection, I'll have a look at the changelog when it's done, but I'm sure someone with a faster connection could let you know ;-)
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:11] <maj> DaveToo, are you sure IpService doesn't use snmp
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:19] <maj> i am seeing this during modeling
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:31] <maj> 2007-07-19 02:26:39 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap for device pluto.oasis7.com
[19-Jul-2007 11:04:00] <DaveToo> I'd have to go look at that plugin code
[19-Jul-2007 11:04:14] <DaveToo> I guess I'm not sure
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[19-Jul-2007 11:06:36] <kells> Hmmmm..... It appears that 2.0.3 really wants SNMP enabled. zendisc run --net=192.168.10.0 returns in less than 2.5 seconds and finds 0 hosts. The vmware image has connectivity, and I can ping from inside of it, so it doesn't appear to be a network issue here. Oh well, I'll go check it out...
[19-Jul-2007 11:07:01] <shakeSpear> jrohw: there is a very good "how to" in the forum: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1608
[19-Jul-2007 11:07:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - [Fwd: Re: Is there an ability to change the Snmp Cycle Inte (at community.zenoss.com)
[19-Jul-2007 11:09:25] <jp10558> Is it easy to upgrade from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3?
[19-Jul-2007 11:12:24] <jp10558> mmm, how does one do snmpwalk?
[19-Jul-2007 11:12:35] <jp10558> I've su - zenoss
[19-Jul-2007 11:12:47] <jp10558> and snmpwalk gives a bash unknown program error
[19-Jul-2007 11:14:51] <kells> jpl0558: It appears that snmpwalk either isn't in your path or isn't installed on your system
[19-Jul-2007 11:15:25] <kells> to see if it's on your system:
[19-Jul-2007 11:15:35] <kells> find / -name snmpwalk 2>/dev/null
[19-Jul-2007 11:16:11] <kells> If it's not there, or just isn't accessible to you, you'll need to add the snmpwalk program to your system.
[19-Jul-2007 11:16:39] <kells> Typically that will be in a package that bundles it with other utilities such as snmpget
[19-Jul-2007 11:17:05] <jp10558> ahh, so I'd look for snmpwalk with yum, for EL4?
[19-Jul-2007 11:17:31] <kells> errr.... maybe try net-snmp
[19-Jul-2007 11:17:56] <jp10558> also, in Zenoss 2.0.2, I'm still getting errors for an entry I deleted . .. I've cleared cache and heartbeats
[19-Jul-2007 11:18:05] <kells> I'm not familiar with EL4 + yum, so I'm not too much use to you there, sorry.
[19-Jul-2007 11:18:38] <Merciless> anyone know how to create thresholds based on calculations from multiple OID's?
[19-Jul-2007 11:19:09] <jp10558> I think I had to install net-snmp as a pre req for Zenoss...
[19-Jul-2007 11:19:38] <jp10558> I'll wait for the search to complete
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[19-Jul-2007 11:21:39] <kells> jpl0558: maybe try net-snmp-utils
[19-Jul-2007 11:25:02] <jp10558> That was it - THanks!
[19-Jul-2007 11:27:21] <jp10558> mmm, snmpwalk is timing out - weird. the other zenoss machie was working fine, and XP doesn't restrict access so far as I know like 2k3 does
[19-Jul-2007 11:28:13] <inktechsupport> check the Windows (or other) Firewall is letting snmp through
[19-Jul-2007 11:28:50] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: does restrict, configure SNMP in services
[19-Jul-2007 11:30:02] <maj> hrm, i think it is apache on EL
[19-Jul-2007 11:30:11] <maj> works fine on fedora7
[19-Jul-2007 11:33:56] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: find it?
[19-Jul-2007 11:34:39] <jp10558> no firewall
[19-Jul-2007 11:34:54] <jp10558> and set to allow any machine to snmp public community as read only
[19-Jul-2007 11:35:55] <jp10558> I'm doing this command:
[19-Jul-2007 11:36:01] <jp10558> snmpwalk {machinename}
[19-Jul-2007 11:36:07] <jp10558> should I put other arguments there
[19-Jul-2007 11:36:28] <DaveToo> -v1 -c community ?
[19-Jul-2007 11:37:02] <jp10558> DaveToo: that worked, I got a bunch of stuff with snmpwalk then
[19-Jul-2007 11:37:10] <DaveToo> net-snmp defaults to v2 now, I think
[19-Jul-2007 11:38:14] <jp10558> what's a pita is Zenoss seems to model SNMP
[19-Jul-2007 11:38:25] <jp10558> when I force it to model the device (or I don't get any errors anyway)
[19-Jul-2007 11:38:36] <jp10558> but it still have an event of SNMP down on the machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:41:19] <maj> why does zenwin keeps checking hearbeats of the linux machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:41:25] <maj> its in the /servers/linux class
[19-Jul-2007 11:42:01] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: did you restart the snmp service?
[19-Jul-2007 11:42:02] <DaveToo> does /servers/linux have ignoreWMI or whatever set?
[19-Jul-2007 11:42:57] <jp10558> mmm, a second restart seems to have cleared it... weird
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:00] <jp10558> of the service
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:04] <jp10558> ok
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:07] <Merciless> any idea on my point Bulwinkle?
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:25] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: that is coming in the future
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:32] <Merciless> you know how soon?
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:42] <jp10558> now to my other issue - I had originally set up with monitoring the local linux server (Zenoss server) using FQDN
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:59] <jp10558> that had weird IP confilict errors showing up in Zenoss, so I deleted that machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:06] <jp10558> and remodeled it as localhost.localdomain
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:10] <jp10558> which is working great/fine
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:20] <DaveToo> your snmpd.conf is not configured right, then
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:24] <jp10558> but I'm still getting events on the FQDN as if it was a seperate machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:33] <jp10558> and I can't kill it
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:48] <maj> umm, lemme check
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:50] <jp10558> I'd like to get rid of the events, I've tried clearing heartbeats
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:58] <jp10558> and clearing the event cache with no effect
[19-Jul-2007 11:45:40] <maj> DaveToo, zWmiMonitorIgnore = True
[19-Jul-2007 11:45:56] <maj> but see, it only does it on one machine, not all of nix servers
[19-Jul-2007 11:46:17] <maj> and i don't see where i can change zProperties on per machine basis
[19-Jul-2007 11:51:24] <jp10558> maj: you should be albe to do so from the dropdown menu
[19-Jul-2007 11:51:51] <jp10558> load up the device, click on the dropdown menu, more - > zProperties unless I'm mistaken
[19-Jul-2007 11:54:35] <Bulwinkle> BBL
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[19-Jul-2007 11:55:02] <maj> hrm, zWmiMonitorIgnore = true as well
[19-Jul-2007 11:55:31] <DaveToo> how do I force a remodel/rediscovery of all the routers To fix the topology model
[19-Jul-2007 11:58:52] <kells> davetoo: I might have totally misunderstood your question, but shouldn't just running zendisc run, with no arguments, do the trick? Am I out to lunch?
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[19-Jul-2007 12:00:04] <DaveToo> zendisc --routers
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[19-Jul-2007 12:00:29] <DaveToo> That's all I want to do; I don't use zendisc otherwise.
[19-Jul-2007 12:00:32] <maj> hrm, maybe its my httpd.conf that craps everything out
[19-Jul-2007 12:00:33] <DaveToo> I have my own discovery tools.
[19-Jul-2007 12:00:51] <kells> I'm hoping that I can get someone else to sanity check something for me. It appears that what's happening is that Products/ZenModel/Device.py is being excecuted but that the exception isn't being caught in the right place.
[19-Jul-2007 12:01:27] <DaveToo> zendisc gives me too many devices in /Discovered, with too many snmp errors.
[19-Jul-2007 12:01:33] <DaveToo> kells: what exception?
[19-Jul-2007 12:01:55] <DaveToo>
[19-Jul-2007 12:02:18] <jrohw> is there a way to hide device organizers.. I have no printers that I care to monitor today.. but one day I might....
[19-Jul-2007 12:02:46] <DaveToo> kells Device.py isn't "executed", per-se.
[19-Jul-2007 12:03:03] <kells> davetoo: Sorry, just can't get the line numbers in vim. The exception is NoSnmp
[19-Jul-2007 12:03:03] <DaveToo> Instances of that class are created, and methods called.
[19-Jul-2007 12:03:37] <kells> There's a findCommunity try/except block with the except NoSnmp:, but it doesn't appear to be caught.
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:36] <DaveToo> What are you doing when it gets thrown?
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:49] <kells> davetoo: zendisc run
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:54] <DaveToo> During a discovery?
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:54] <DaveToo> oh
[19-Jul-2007 12:05:12] <DaveToo> I haven't run zendisc for months
[19-Jul-2007 12:05:19] <DaveToo> don't use it much
[19-Jul-2007 12:05:50] <DaveToo> I use a homebrew perl scanning tool
[19-Jul-2007 12:06:08] <kells> As it happens, the first device in my ip range is a device that doesn't support snmp I suspect that zendisc.py finds it, attempts discovery, the exception isn't caught in the right place, and then gives up.
[19-Jul-2007 12:06:10] <DaveToo> and pipe the results into a python tool I hacked up to add the devices
[19-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <kells> davetoo: That sounds pretty interesting.
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:18] <DaveToo> The perl tool checks for a bunch of different things, like whether snmp is running, whether I can get a shell login, etc,
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:31] <DaveToo> and writes out a line with a bunch of different fields, which the python tool parses
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:42] <kells> davetoo: I've been wondering why they just don't put a wrapper around nmap and then let discovery happen that way. The only explanation that I can think of is that it would be a binary that they would need to distribute. Oh, the license might not allow it either, come to think of it.
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:55] <DaveToo> and adds to the right places
[19-Jul-2007 12:08:04] <DaveToo> I start with an nmap ping scan
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[19-Jul-2007 12:09:06] <hspcd> Hi all
[19-Jul-2007 12:09:25] <DaveToo> I do stuff like: loader.loadDevice(deviceName=devip, devicePath=devpath, discoverProto='snmp', zSnmpCommunity=v1commun)
[19-Jul-2007 12:09:54] <DaveToo> zendmd is a good place to start
[19-Jul-2007 12:10:36] <hspcd> Anyone know how to make Zenoss use another version of Python? I have CentOS4.5 which comes with Python 2.3.4. I'm having trouble with WMI and the recommended work around references using Python 2.4.3. I've installed a newer version of Python from source but Zenoss still looks at the original version installed with CentOS.
[19-Jul-2007 12:11:18] <DaveToo> We were just talking about that, sorta ... apparently the zenoss install copies what it finds on the system
[19-Jul-2007 12:11:29] <DaveToo> so .. you might have to reinstall
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[19-Jul-2007 12:11:58] <Darkfang> any one using event corelation?
[19-Jul-2007 12:12:18] <junix|work> where can i get the config file for my windows clients?
[19-Jul-2007 12:12:42] <hspcd> bugga!
[19-Jul-2007 12:13:04] <hspcd> how big of a deal is it to migrate a Zenoss 2.0.2 installation to a new server?
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[19-Jul-2007 12:14:28] <kells> davetoo: Hmmm.... If I may ask, what was your main motivation for writing your own version of zendisc? Was it speed, or was there something that it didn't seem to do well?
[19-Jul-2007 12:17:13] <DaveToo> I'm using zenoss in a very unconventional way
[19-Jul-2007 12:17:20] <DaveToo> basically we're looking for systems that people aren't using
[19-Jul-2007 12:17:28] <DaveToo> that are just sucking up power/cooling/rackspace
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:03] <DaveToo> We have a lot of different system types, all in various chaotic levels of configuration
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:11] <DaveToo> so I have a lot of different RRDTemplates
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[19-Jul-2007 12:18:20] <DaveToo> and this tool figures out where the system should go
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:38] <DaveToo> We have a server at each of five different sites,
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:49] <DaveToo> and the largest one is watching about 4,000 systems
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[19-Jul-2007 12:19:20] <DaveToo> so I needed to automate placing the systems in the correct place in the /Devices tree
[19-Jul-2007 12:19:30] <DaveToo> I'm not done yet;
[19-Jul-2007 12:19:54] <DaveToo> I have to run multiple monitor instances (snmp, command, etc) on the server or I get data dropouts
[19-Jul-2007 12:20:03] <kells> davetoo: That sounds pretty impressive
[19-Jul-2007 12:20:16] <DaveToo> That's the trick where you have to make new copies like zenperfsnmp_01.py, etc
[19-Jul-2007 12:20:53] <DaveToo> kells it keeps a 4-way dual-core 3ghz Xeon with 10GB of Ram quite busy
[19-Jul-2007 12:21:21] <kells> Egads!
[19-Jul-2007 12:21:50] <DaveToo> About 26,000 RRD files
[19-Jul-2007 12:22:38] <kells> In your experience, what is the biggest bottleneck in the performance of zenoss?
[19-Jul-2007 12:25:34] <DaveToo> rrd file access, maybe
[19-Jul-2007 12:25:44] <DaveToo> it seems the trick is to have enough RAM to keep them all in cache
[19-Jul-2007 12:25:53] <DaveToo> After that, SNMP errors
[19-Jul-2007 12:26:05] <DaveToo> too many snmp errors and the cycle times out and you get dropouts
[19-Jul-2007 12:29:19] <jp10558> mm
[19-Jul-2007 12:29:31] <jp10558> just upgraded to 2.0.3, smooth upgrade from 2.0.2 anyway
[19-Jul-2007 12:29:46] <jp10558> but it still doesn't see that a windows service is down on my test machine
[19-Jul-2007 12:32:00] <jp10558> no wait, it's not giving me a yellow dot ?
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:22] <DaveToo> hah
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:35] <DaveToo> so I spammed myself and two other people with 3500 alerts yesterday
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:43] <DaveToo> because 2.0.2 came up running WMI
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:53] <DaveToo> and tried to WMI a bunch of ciscos and unix boxes
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[19-Jul-2007 12:40:15] <kells> Hmmm.... I was hoping that zenoss would handle alert storms a little better. It's one thing that drives me nuts about nagios.
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[19-Jul-2007 12:42:22] <DaveToo> kells
[19-Jul-2007 12:42:36] <DaveToo> I think the network topology stuff is supposed to help that
[19-Jul-2007 12:42:51] <DaveToo> but it doesn't seem fully supported yet
[19-Jul-2007 12:43:16] <DaveToo> I have to fix it
[19-Jul-2007 12:43:31] <DaveToo> because my dumbass boss wants alerts to go directly into our trouble ticket system
[19-Jul-2007 12:43:40] <DaveToo> I"m goign to make a rule to auto-assign them all to him
[19-Jul-2007 12:44:30] <kells> davetoo: Ick! Direct to the trouble ticketing system? Now there's a good plan!
[19-Jul-2007 12:44:44] <DaveToo> It'll increase our metrics!
[19-Jul-2007 12:44:51] <kells> lol!!!!!
[19-Jul-2007 12:45:25] <kells> That's hilarious!
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[19-Jul-2007 12:47:56] <kells> Topology will help for some of those things, and event correlation will help for weeding out other things, but there should always be, IMO, a throttle on the generation of alerts.
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[19-Jul-2007 12:48:24] <kells> It's too easy to make a small mistake with annoying consequences.
[19-Jul-2007 12:56:45] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 12:56:53] <maj> somebody posted a solution
[19-Jul-2007 12:58:50] <DaveToo> to what?
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[19-Jul-2007 13:58:40] <jp10558> So, it seems to take a while monitoring a Windows service before Zenoss 2.0.3 sees it going up and down?
[19-Jul-2007 13:59:04] <jp10558> is it not modeling windows services unless 12 hrs passes like ZenWin did in 1.1.1?
[19-Jul-2007 14:01:11] <maj> a solution to my problem
[19-Jul-2007 14:01:18] <maj> worked
[19-Jul-2007 14:09:44] <jp10558> ok, looks like it only sees stuff every 5 minutes in WMI... makes sense I guess
[19-Jul-2007 14:16:04] <maj> is there any way to run vmware player as a service and make it start the appliance automatically
[19-Jul-2007 14:16:13] <maj> on boot
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[19-Jul-2007 14:16:39] <jrohw> maj: sounds more like a vmware server type of situation
[19-Jul-2007 14:16:57] <jrohw> i would guess the image should work there as well
[19-Jul-2007 14:17:30] <maj> heh ya
[19-Jul-2007 14:17:50] <maj> but it also costs
[19-Jul-2007 14:18:02] <maj> about 6k
[19-Jul-2007 14:18:04] <maj> got esx
[19-Jul-2007 14:19:36] <maj> actually hold on, there is a free server isnt there
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[19-Jul-2007 14:43:13] <jp10558> There is a free server
[19-Jul-2007 14:43:18] <jp10558> which will be much more like what you want
[19-Jul-2007 14:49:22] <jrohw> I'm trying to get the REST example from the howto working
[19-Jul-2007 14:49:28] <jrohw> but every time I get the login page
[19-Jul-2007 14:49:57] <jrohw> am I missing something simple? I set up a new user to import the events.. and I think i'm passing those credentials
[19-Jul-2007 15:00:31] <markw_> getting an error on mib import.
[19-Jul-2007 15:00:38] <markw_> /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-COMMON-MIB:33: revision for last update is missing
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[19-Jul-2007 16:26:05] <kells> davetoo: Hey, I've done a little research into nmap, and I think that they don't integrate with it directly due to licensing. The license is explicit about not running nmap and parsing the output.
[19-Jul-2007 16:26:06] <kells> OTOH, I'm thinking that if it gets dumped into XML, then it's totallly fair game.
[19-Jul-2007 16:29:26] <kells> Would you have objections to sharing some of the code that you've developed, or should I just put something together and submit it to zenoss? (It seems a little painful, but....)
[19-Jul-2007 16:40:12] <markw_> is there anyway to tell zenoss to ignore loopback mounted iso images? it wants to send out threshold warnings.
[19-Jul-2007 16:42:19] <KernelPanik> questions: what does the thicker red line mean, when looks at the graphs under OS, thanks
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:29] <davetoo> really
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:30] <davetoo> I'
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:36] <davetoo> ll have to look at the licencse.
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:45] <davetoo> I use -G (greppable) output mode
[19-Jul-2007 16:44:22] <davetoo> I don't use any discovery stuff from nmap. I tried that at first, but it didn't tell me what I needed to know.
[19-Jul-2007 16:44:48] <solarce> see, I was thinking perl glue to go right from nmap xml to zenoss xml
[19-Jul-2007 16:44:54] <solarce> there is a nmap xml perl module
[19-Jul-2007 16:45:14] <davetoo> I just use the list of IPs, then my perl stuff does other tests
[19-Jul-2007 16:45:36] <davetoo> e.g. it does use nmap just to see if snmpd might be listening, but I could probably also use hping for that
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:02] <davetoo> but then it runs a few different snmpgets and snmpwalks so I can decide where in the Devices tree the devices need to go,
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:14] <davetoo> based on vendor/OS and how snmpd is or is not configured.
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:30] <davetoo> basically I'm discovering ten years of chaotic lab-user-configured junk
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:44] <davetoo> very poorly managed
[19-Jul-2007 16:47:08] <davetoo> There's a stub of a "smart" discovery class in the code, or at least there was,
[19-Jul-2007 16:47:13] <davetoo> not sure if it';s still there.
[19-Jul-2007 16:47:43] <davetoo> I'd thought about extending that but I won't have time for that for weeks, if not months.
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[19-Jul-2007 17:16:19] <markw_> trying to import F5-BIGIP mibs and smidump originally complained about "REVISION" missing
[19-Jul-2007 17:16:34] <markw_> so I faked the REVISION and smidump no longer gives errors.
[19-Jul-2007 17:16:50] <markw_> but zenmib run still fails to import.
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[19-Jul-2007 18:17:55] <eurowerke> ahh
[19-Jul-2007 18:17:56] <eurowerke> finally
[19-Jul-2007 18:18:07] <eurowerke> my client b0rked
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[19-Jul-2007 19:09:10] <markw_> any snmp mib gurus here?
[19-Jul-2007 19:11:42] <eurowerke> heh I could use the same
[19-Jul-2007 19:11:55] <eurowerke> what do you need?
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[19-Jul-2007 19:41:32] <markw_> eurowerke: trying to import some mibs.
[19-Jul-2007 19:42:08] <markw_> smidump was giving an error about "REVISION" which I fixed, now it gives no errors and does a nice pretty dump, however when I run zenmib it still bombs.
[19-Jul-2007 19:42:44] <markw_> if I knew what zenmib was trying to do with the mib it'd probably help troubleshoot it.
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[19-Jul-2007 19:47:05] <bzed> markw_: try to add -v10 to the zenmib command, not sure if it works there, but it works for most other tools
[19-Jul-2007 19:49:22] <markw_> bzed: that's just debug, here's the output from 1 mib when I do that:
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[19-Jul-2007 19:49:49] <bzed> markw_: I thought zenmib doesn't work for you
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:00] <bzed> and I ahve no clue of snmp mibs yet
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:26] <markw_> bzed: it doesn't.
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:28] <markw_> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:F5-BIGIP-SYSTEM-MIB
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:28] <markw_> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:running smidump -fpython -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/SNMPv2-SMI" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/SNMPv2-TC" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/SNMPv2-CONF" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/INET-ADDRESS-MIB" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-COMMON-MIB" "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-SYSTEM-MIB" 2>/dev/null
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:33] <markw_> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-SYSTEM-MIB
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[19-Jul-2007 19:51:38] <markw_> interesting.
[19-Jul-2007 19:51:44] <markw_> su to the zenoss user and it works.
[19-Jul-2007 19:52:18] <bzed> well, that's something I could have told you earlier
[19-Jul-2007 19:52:49] <markw_> thought it may be a perms thing.
[19-Jul-2007 19:56:07] <bzed> I think more a path thing
[19-Jul-2007 19:56:13] <bzed> or $ZENHOME missing
[19-Jul-2007 19:56:42] <bzed> reminds me that I have to poke the developers to get rid of that, I found a good way to do it
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[19-Jul-2007 20:38:01] <eurowerke> you still there markw_?
[19-Jul-2007 20:38:56] <eurowerke> brb
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[20-Jul-2007 02:44:13] <Darkfang> hi
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[20-Jul-2007 03:59:44] <iscream> hi Merciless
[20-Jul-2007 04:00:00] <iscream> Merciless : from where have you read about OIDs?
[20-Jul-2007 04:00:50] <Merciless> hey what do you mean?
[20-Jul-2007 04:01:53] <iscream> OID info, whatis OID, etc
[20-Jul-2007 04:02:13] <iscream> something description or kind of that:)
[20-Jul-2007 04:02:17] <Merciless> the OID is that string of numbers which points to a part of the MIB
[20-Jul-2007 04:02:28] <Merciless> if you google "CISCO SNMP" they have a long thing about SNMP and MIB's
[20-Jul-2007 04:03:13] <iscream> i know MIB
[20-Jul-2007 04:03:26] <iscream> than OID is kind of an INDEX to the MIB i think
[20-Jul-2007 04:04:20] <Merciless> yup
[20-Jul-2007 04:04:21] <Merciless> spot on
[20-Jul-2007 04:04:38] <iscream> and how do i know what are in the MIB...?:)
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[20-Jul-2007 04:07:39] <Merciless> now thast the hard one
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:42] <Merciless> a mib broswer
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:44] <Merciless> usign snmp walk
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:51] <Merciless> download the actual mib file and looking
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:53] <Merciless> few ways
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:58] <Merciless> i just asked someone els
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:58] <Merciless>
[20-Jul-2007 04:08:06] <Merciless> a MIB Browser is prob best
[20-Jul-2007 04:08:39] <iscream> i downloaded somekind of mib browser with a green icon, and connected to zenoss ip, but i had an aerror i guess, and uninstalled it
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:06] <Merciless> your meant to connect to an active SNMP host with a MIB Browser to see what mib's are available on that host
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:17] <iscream> i donno which mib contains the CPU temperature:)
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:19] <iscream> yep
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:19] <Merciless> the MIBs are stored on the host thus SNMP Informant will give the host MORE mibs
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:45] <iscream> i see
[20-Jul-2007 04:10:16] <iscream> did you manage to fix your probelm?
[20-Jul-2007 04:10:35] <iscream> the problem, wich was the disk usage on the OS tab is unknow, and so on
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:21] <Merciless> no
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:46] <Merciless> disk usage was ok for me
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:50] <Merciless> it was CPU that wasn't
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:52] <Merciless> and MEM
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:59] <Merciless> and then the Services and Processes bit fking up too
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[20-Jul-2007 04:18:09] <iscream> hmm
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:13] <iscream> i have mem ok
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:23] <iscream> disk was once ok, after that bad
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:27] <iscream> and services bad
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:34] <iscream> and installed softwares good:D
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:38] <iscream> that is my summary:D
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[20-Jul-2007 04:19:55] <ghira_> hi
[20-Jul-2007 04:20:57] <ghira_> is there anybody?
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[20-Jul-2007 04:26:09] <iscream> Merciless : how about i connected some snmp host , there wasnt any info bout disk usage and so on?:P
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[20-Jul-2007 04:26:38] <Merciless> Im confused at that last statement iscream
[20-Jul-2007 04:26:46] <Merciless> do you mean you discovered a new server and it hasnt got the info?
[20-Jul-2007 04:27:08] <iscream> yep
[20-Jul-2007 04:27:15] <Merciless> sucks
[20-Jul-2007 04:27:39] <iscream> ohh hell yeah:)
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[20-Jul-2007 04:33:55] <ghira_> anyone can explain me how to use helloworldzenpack? i've installed it... but now?
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[20-Jul-2007 04:44:32] <narwen> hi again
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[20-Jul-2007 04:44:54] <narwen> hi
[20-Jul-2007 04:47:56] <narwen> hi
[20-Jul-2007 04:48:25] <narwen> anyone can help me?
[20-Jul-2007 04:53:42] <Merciless> your beyond help ^-^
[20-Jul-2007 04:54:18] <narwen>
[20-Jul-2007 04:54:29] <narwen> i've installed the helloworldzenpack
[20-Jul-2007 04:54:41] <narwen> but can't find any documentation on how to use the zenpacks
[20-Jul-2007 04:55:51] <narwen> the same for httpmonitor
[20-Jul-2007 04:55:51] <narwen> :O
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:13] <iscream> narwen:http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8614
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to USE ZenPacks? (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:19] <narwen> yeah already read
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:27] <iscream> google is your friend and wiki is your girlfriend
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:34] <adytum-bot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_Rock_is_Your_Friend:_Kung_Fu_Records_Sampler_No._4
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:45] <iscream> lol:P
[20-Jul-2007 04:59:12] <narwen> i've already read that post, but... after adding httpmonitor to the templates, which new features i'll be able to use ?
[20-Jul-2007 05:18:25] <narwen> ok... there's a way for adding xmlrpc services monitoring or i've to do a zenpack for doing it?
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[20-Jul-2007 05:38:53] <Merciless> anyone familiar with netscreen?
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[20-Jul-2007 06:47:54] <stooo> hi room
[20-Jul-2007 06:48:13] <stooo> can anyone spare a min for a noob?
[20-Jul-2007 07:05:10] <iscream> Merciless : R U here?
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[20-Jul-2007 07:14:28] <narwen> hi
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[20-Jul-2007 07:26:23] <Merciless> iscream
[20-Jul-2007 07:26:24] <Merciless> yes I am
[20-Jul-2007 07:34:29] <iscream> so
[20-Jul-2007 07:34:37] <iscream> have you perf graph?
[20-Jul-2007 07:34:46] <iscream> and the disc info is good for you?
[20-Jul-2007 07:37:45] <Darkfang> is there a mean to disable status monitoring on a device?
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:01] <Merciless> yes and yes
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:08] <Merciless> and yes
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:38] <Merciless> Darkfang you do that in templates i do believe ;x... so Classes/Devices > Templates... for a specific device give it its own class i suppose, then just do it in the teplate for that class
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:46] <Merciless> at a guess but im a newbie
[20-Jul-2007 07:40:05] <Darkfang> eah i'm stupid
[20-Jul-2007 07:40:08] <Darkfang> it's in zProperties
[20-Jul-2007 07:41:54] <narwen>
[20-Jul-2007 07:41:55] <iscream> Merciless : have you done anything to run those, or it worked fine at first time?
[20-Jul-2007 07:42:27] <narwen> anyone can help me with this? http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2803
[20-Jul-2007 07:42:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Templates and XMLRPC (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Jul-2007 07:43:47] <Merciless> it takes a few hours for the data to be collected
[20-Jul-2007 07:43:49] <Merciless> but it worked over night
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[20-Jul-2007 07:47:33] <narwen> no one?
[20-Jul-2007 07:49:49] <narwen> sigh
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[20-Jul-2007 08:20:19] <stooo> anyone home?
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[20-Jul-2007 09:24:46] <junix|work> how do i setup the windows client??
[20-Jul-2007 09:31:22] <jp10558> There is no client for windows? Or do you mean SNMP Informant?
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[20-Jul-2007 09:31:45] <narwen> hi
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[20-Jul-2007 09:57:08] <junix|work> yes
[20-Jul-2007 10:01:40] <junix|work> jp10558: yes
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[20-Jul-2007 10:50:20] <tty01> anyone know if theres a way to get a total for the traffic going in/out for 2 interfaces on a graph?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:04:35] <Bulwinkle> tty01: no way in Zenoss natively that I can think of (yet)
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[20-Jul-2007 11:11:22] <jp10558> junix|work: what is the error you're getting with SNMP informant?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:12:54] <jrohw> does lock to anything useful? It certainly doesn't seem to keep me from deleting things?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:15:00] <maj> how do i clear zenoss issues
[20-Jul-2007 11:15:02] <maj> ?
[20-Jul-2007 11:17:19] <jrohw> maj: try moving them to history
[20-Jul-2007 11:17:46] <maj> well, i don't have checkboxes anywhere for them, i only see them on dashboard
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[20-Jul-2007 11:19:16] <jrohw> maj: they don't exist in the event console?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:21:22] <Bulwinkle> maj: click on the device with the errors and it will pull up the event log for that device
[20-Jul-2007 11:31:24] <junix|work> jp10558: i'm not getting any erro, i'm looking for docs to configuyre it
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[20-Jul-2007 11:42:53] <jp10558> There's no real configuration for it, you install it and that's it.
[20-Jul-2007 11:43:08] <jp10558> All the configuration is done via the Windows SNMP service
[20-Jul-2007 11:46:38] <maj> jrohw, well, those errors don't show up under Device Issues on dash board, they show up under Zenoss Issues, so i am not sure where to look those events up
[20-Jul-2007 11:46:47] <maj> there is no Zenoss under devices
[20-Jul-2007 11:47:01] <junix|work> jp10558: do i need to put it in the ip addy of the server in snmp service?
[20-Jul-2007 11:47:32] <maj> i mean Bulwinkle
[20-Jul-2007 11:48:01] <jrohw> ahh.. I have no idea then.. I haven't had one of those before..
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[20-Jul-2007 12:19:36] <Bulwinkle> maj: just go to the event console on the left tab ALL events will be there
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[20-Jul-2007 12:36:54] <hspcd> Howdy folks
[20-Jul-2007 12:40:58] <Bulwinkle> hi hspcd
[20-Jul-2007 12:41:21] <hspcd> hi Bulwinkle
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[20-Jul-2007 12:42:52] <hspcd> does anyone here know where I can change which version of Python that Zenoss uses?
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[20-Jul-2007 13:59:30] <jp10558> junix|work: sorry for going away so much
[20-Jul-2007 14:00:15] <jp10558> If you're using Server 2k3, you do need to allow the ZenOSS server to send SNMP packets, and set up the community name (public) in the SNMP service
[20-Jul-2007 14:02:44] <junix|work> what about in the service config, anything i need to setup there?
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[20-Jul-2007 14:04:03] <jp10558> in the service config on 2k3
[20-Jul-2007 14:04:18] <jp10558> you'll need to set under the Traps
[20-Jul-2007 14:04:40] <jp10558> tab the community name (public) and the machines it will accept SNMP packets from, that is the Zenoss Server FQDN
[20-Jul-2007 14:04:56] <jp10558> err, sorry, trap destinations
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:03] <jp10558> also under the security tab
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:12] <jp10558> you'll want to uncheck
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:19] <jp10558> Send authentication trap
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:39] <jp10558> and either accept SNMP packet from any host, or again enter the FQDN of the ZenOSS server there
[20-Jul-2007 14:06:00] <jp10558> That will get you SNMP info from Windows, including the performance metrics
[20-Jul-2007 14:06:08] <jp10558> it will not get you WMI data like windows services
[20-Jul-2007 14:06:43] <jp10558> To do that, you need a domain admin account or local admin account credentials to give to Zenoss in the zProperties of the machine or /Server/Windows class
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[20-Jul-2007 14:37:32] <maj> is there any way to minitor services such as snort on linux, that don't actually bind to a specific port
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[20-Jul-2007 14:40:17] <hspcd> anybody home?
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[20-Jul-2007 14:56:34] <jrohw> anyone know how to debug the zenaction daemon?
[20-Jul-2007 14:56:50] <jrohw> i'm getting stack traces about HeartBeat not found
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[20-Jul-2007 15:17:06] <jp10558> jrohw: I don't know how to debug anything, but what about clearing heartbeats and see if it goes away?
[20-Jul-2007 15:17:23] <jrohw> how do I clear them globally?
[20-Jul-2007 15:22:27] <jp10558> Go to event manager
[20-Jul-2007 15:22:33] <jp10558> click on the dropdown, clear heartbeats
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[20-Jul-2007 15:23:51] <jrohw> jp10558: thanks! Now just a few minutes to see if it worked
[20-Jul-2007 15:31:35] <jrohw> sweet.. seems to have resolved that
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[20-Jul-2007 15:57:03] <davetoo> oops
[20-Jul-2007 15:59:13] <davetoo> So I'm trying with zendmd to get a list of all devices of a particular hardware product type. Any ideas?
[20-Jul-2007 16:00:32] <davetoo> I need to iterate through that list and change a zProperty
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[20-Jul-2007 17:50:28] <KernelPanik> can zenoss collect netflow type of data from cisco routers
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[20-Jul-2007 19:02:11] <tristanbob_> KernelPanik: try nfsen.sf.net
[20-Jul-2007 19:07:49] <bzed> KernelPanik: or http://www.mindrot.org/projects/softflowd
[20-Jul-2007 19:07:49] <adytum-bot> Title: softflowd - fast software NetFlow probe (at www.mindrot.org)
[20-Jul-2007 19:08:12] <bzed> KernelPanik: afaik there's a special cisco zenpack in the enterprise edition, but you want to use the webform to ask for details
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[20-Jul-2007 20:40:49] <KernelPanik> kewl, thanks a lot guys,
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[22-Jul-2007 05:21:09] <KA> Hi All
[22-Jul-2007 05:22:47] <KA> it's three times I send an email to zenoss-dev at lists.zenoss.org, it's accepted by the server but not arrives, without any notice bounced
[22-Jul-2007 05:28:59] <bzed> KA: unfortunately the ML doesn't deliver the mail back to the sender
[22-Jul-2007 05:29:51] <bzed> what was the subject of your mail?
[22-Jul-2007 05:30:34] <KA> bzed: actually I cannot see it on http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-dev/2007/thread.html and the firsts two a friend wasn't able to see them too
[22-Jul-2007 05:30:34] <adytum-bot> Title: The zenoss-dev 2007 Archive by thread (at lists.zenoss.org)
[22-Jul-2007 05:30:53] <bzed> KA: are you subscribed to the list?
[22-Jul-2007 05:31:39] <KA> yes, now I've disabled the reception of msgs, but I check it via web
[22-Jul-2007 05:31:44] <KA> I'm looking for the subj
[22-Jul-2007 05:32:44] <KA> last one, yesterday at 16:29 GMT+2: "zenpack creation and properties setup"
[22-Jul-2007 05:34:36] <KA> postfix's log says server accepted delivery, I've the remote smtp id if you need
[22-Jul-2007 05:36:59] <bzed> KA: I'm not working @ zenoss, so that's nothing I can help you with. you wanna poke cluther when he's around
[22-Jul-2007 05:37:14] <KA> ok sorry
[22-Jul-2007 05:37:38] <bzed> but indeed, your mail is not in my inbox, too
[22-Jul-2007 05:38:47] <KA> good to know (well not that good
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[23-Jul-2007 04:03:22] <Merciless> mornin all
[23-Jul-2007 04:04:10] <Merciless> Bulwinkle around?
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[23-Jul-2007 04:19:51] <Merciless> hey hey iscream
[23-Jul-2007 04:20:23] <iscream> hello Merciless
[23-Jul-2007 04:20:29] <iscream> how was your weekend?
[23-Jul-2007 04:21:27] <Merciless> not bad thanks
[23-Jul-2007 04:21:28] <Merciless> urself?
[23-Jul-2007 04:21:57] <iscream> my was good, i was with my girlfriend
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:07] <iscream> far far away from any PC:D
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:22] <Merciless> lol fantastic
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:27] <Merciless> but now back
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:42] <iscream> ohh yeah...XD
[23-Jul-2007 04:23:48] <iscream> strange... last time my zenoss showed me what kind of programs are installed on the monitored PC, and as i told you, it didnt show me the harddrive,etc...now...it doesnt show anything:)
[23-Jul-2007 04:28:18] <Merciless> rofl! unlucky!
[23-Jul-2007 04:28:28] <Merciless> well i still can't get it to monitor services properly It just gives me false status!!!!
[23-Jul-2007 04:28:35] <Merciless> wonder if snmp informant is needed for that :s lol
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:07] <iscream> how can i find, what OID gives me which info-s?
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:26] <iscream> mib browser, or is there any page with the info on it?
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:30] <Merciless> Suppose you could try finding the template for it and it will have the OID
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:33] <Merciless> or indeed a MIB Browser
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:39] <Merciless> google is you friend I suppose
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:47] <adytum-bot> http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/T/trulyrics/trusupposetobemyfriendlyrics.htm
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:53] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:56] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:33:00] <Merciless> :/
[23-Jul-2007 04:36:54] <Merciless> hmmm you got commands on events working?
[23-Jul-2007 04:38:27] <iscream> i havent tried it yet
[23-Jul-2007 04:38:34] <iscream> im now with he mibs and oids
[23-Jul-2007 04:38:54] <Merciless> lol fair enough
[23-Jul-2007 04:39:13] <Merciless> i'm giving up on that for a bit.. it monitors cpu, hdd, and up/down.. their the crucial ones
[23-Jul-2007 04:39:17] <iscream> when i connect to the localhost with the mib browser it shows me everything good, but when i would connect to my windows PC, it shows on every mib the value 1
[23-Jul-2007 04:39:54] <iscream> yeah, your right, but it disturbs me that it shows me good, after that works nothing fine:S
[23-Jul-2007 04:44:47] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 04:44:50] <Merciless> true
[23-Jul-2007 04:44:52] <Merciless> pretty strange
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:00] <Merciless> there seem to be a lot of bugs in it
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:04] <iscream> Merciless: what is your OID to windows to shows free MB on hard drives?:P
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:11] <Merciless> lemme check
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:14] <iscream> k
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:41] <Merciless> "usedBlocks" - 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:56] <Merciless> so thats how much hard drive space has been used
[23-Jul-2007 04:46:22] <iscream> fine,thanx
[23-Jul-2007 04:46:34] <Merciless> np
[23-Jul-2007 04:47:07] <iscream> and it gives 5row, when you debug it with snmpwalk, right?
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:14] <Merciless> i've never walked it before
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:26] <Merciless> i just tested it by lowering the threshold to 1 percent and seeing if it gave me an alert
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:28] <Merciless> it did
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:44] <iscream> (y)
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:46] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:05] <iscream> what does this means ? whats your opinion:
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:05] <iscream> Name Snmp Index
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:05] <iscream> C 2.67.58
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:24] <Merciless> maybe an index number or a relation to your HDD space
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:24] <iscream> on the hardware tab in zenoss at the device
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:43] <iscream> maybe:P
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:52] <Merciless> i dont get anythin in the hardware tab
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:54] <Merciless> except RAM used
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:58] <iscream> yes
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> but in OS tab
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> Mount Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> C:\ Label: Serial Number a4864694 19.1GB 4.1GB 15.0GB 21
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> E:\ Label:Test Serial Number ccffab2d 9.4GB 71.1MB 9.3GB 0
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:03] <iscream> Volts and so on , nothing ?
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:08] <iscream> ooo
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:08] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:10] <iscream> thats nice!
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:22] <iscream> in os
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:22] <iscream> Mount Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:22] <iscream> C:\ Label: Serial Number f04c4e97 74.5GB unknown unknown unknown
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:24] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:40] <iscream> i cannot get it to work fine:S
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[23-Jul-2007 04:55:44] <Merciless> i got that the first time i tried
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:46] <Merciless> in fact
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:50] <Merciless> i think i got that wen using auto discovery
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:54] <Merciless> but when manually doing it it worked
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:59] <Merciless> maybe something to do with your SNMP Community String?
[23-Jul-2007 04:57:35] <iscream> i discovered it auto, and changed its class to /windows/server, after that it showed me the installed softwares, but this still not
[23-Jul-2007 04:57:52] <iscream> what do u mean snmp community string? how can i find out?
[23-Jul-2007 04:58:21] <Merciless> when you set up SNMP on a machine it by default has a public string... but like my company uses a private string.. this has to be inputted into zenoss so it can access the snmp
[23-Jul-2007 04:58:42] <Merciless> Device > Edit
[23-Jul-2007 04:58:58] <Merciless> Snmp community
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:03] <Merciless> Needs to go in there
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:24] <Merciless> also you need to make sure that the host is accepting SNMP requests from "Any Hosts" OR the specific IP of zenoss
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:25] <iscream> its public
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:34] <Merciless> then ignore me
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:35] <Merciless> ^-^
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:39] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:41] <iscream> nothing
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:52] <iscream> i would test it with my own hp laptop pc
[23-Jul-2007 05:00:01] <iscream> and i installed the simple snmp, and snmp informant
[23-Jul-2007 05:00:20] <iscream> its public on tha laptop, and accepts from any host the requests
[23-Jul-2007 05:01:03] <iscream> you know what i mean...when it would be private, it wouldnt show me anything, now it shows me parts of what i want at the end:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:01:21] <iscream> for example, it wouldnt show me the installed softwares to my laptop
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:17] <iscream> Merciless: u added just servers, or PCs as well?
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:23] <Merciless> Windows Servers
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:23] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:48] <iscream> only?
[23-Jul-2007 05:03:55] <Merciless> pretty much
[23-Jul-2007 05:03:58] <Merciless> a few printers as well
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:19] <iscream> and what would you monitor on rpinters?
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:33] <Merciless> it auto discovered them
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:34] <Merciless> basically up time
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:35] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:42] <iscream> is there any possibility to get an error, if the ink is empty or something?:P
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:47] <Merciless> ooo yes
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:49] <Merciless> there are mibs for that
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:50] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:54] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 05:05:04] <Merciless> its like soon you'll be able to get kettles and toasters with mibs in !
[23-Jul-2007 05:05:13] <Merciless> brb
[23-Jul-2007 05:07:31] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 05:08:10] <Merciless> back
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:06] <iscream> okay
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:15] <iscream> when i add the localhost device
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:19] <iscream> which on is the zenoss
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:41] <iscream> it shows me more more instead as the simple xp PC:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:46] <iscream> but still not the usage%
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:13] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:33] <Merciless> well
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:35] <Merciless> strange
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:35] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:19:45] <iscream> yeah
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:06] <iscream> ohh
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:10] <iscream> it shows me
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:16] <iscream> the %usage as well
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:18] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 05:29:28] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 05:35:05] <Merciless> any luck?
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:02] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:04] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:11] <Merciless> yey good good
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:18] <iscream> dont u know how can i restore to defaults the thresholds?:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:36] <Merciless> not a clue lol!
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:39] <Merciless> what threshold?
[23-Jul-2007 05:39:36] <iscream> a threshold which i added
[23-Jul-2007 05:39:39] <iscream> but i found now
[23-Jul-2007 05:39:41] <iscream> thanks
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:10] <Merciless> Fair enough
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:28] <iscream> Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:28] <iscream> 0 Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:29] <iscream> :S
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:35] <Merciless> i get that too
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:42] <iscream> it would be briliant if it would work:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:09] <Merciless> lol yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:14] <iscream> i guess
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:22] <iscream> we should download a mib
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:24] <iscream> not?:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:29] <iscream> the manufatrurers mib
[23-Jul-2007 05:42:15] <Merciless> nah
[23-Jul-2007 05:42:20] <Merciless> should be already on afaik
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:16] <iscream> on the monitored pc/server, right?:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:41] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:53] <Merciless> Zenoss looks for the OID/MIB on the actual server/pc
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:59] <Merciless> but it should be there already :S
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:18] <iscream> snmp informant should tell the info as well
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:34] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:36] <Merciless> and ROFL
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:55] <Merciless> someone at work had a big go at me the other day, because the network went down and i was the only one doing work in the server room (though I didnt touch anything)
[23-Jul-2007 05:45:04] <Merciless> now, that guy is downstairs in that room, and the whole network just went down.
[23-Jul-2007 05:45:23] <iscream> that guy is weird:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:45:39] <iscream> he wants to you go with the blame...not him
[23-Jul-2007 05:47:38] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:59:14] <iscream> Merciless:
[23-Jul-2007 05:59:24] <iscream> i just tried out the event command
[23-Jul-2007 05:59:45] <iscream> that is what you asked before, right?
[23-Jul-2007 06:01:44] <Merciless> ye
[23-Jul-2007 06:01:52] <iscream> what is your question?
[23-Jul-2007 06:01:53] <Merciless> so for example if a service goes down, send a command to restart the service etc
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:02] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:09] <iscream> and...the question?:D
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:22] <Merciless> how the hell do you do it
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:32] <iscream> first
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:50] <iscream> a threshold, or an event comes in if the service is down
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:52] <iscream> right?
[23-Jul-2007 06:03:42] <Merciless> in theory I cant get that working properly yet but yes
[23-Jul-2007 06:04:44] <iscream> after that, you go to event manager on the left
[23-Jul-2007 06:04:51] <iscream> then commands
[23-Jul-2007 06:04:54] <iscream> and there it is
[23-Jul-2007 06:05:04] <iscream> also there is an instruction in the admin guide 2
[23-Jul-2007 06:11:43] <Merciless> yes but not too sure of the exact commands to put in etc
[23-Jul-2007 06:11:43] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 06:14:33] <iscream> shwell command
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[23-Jul-2007 06:46:46] <kippi> hey
[23-Jul-2007 06:46:58] <kippi> how can you change the outgoing e-mail address?
[23-Jul-2007 07:00:32] <iscream> Merciless
[23-Jul-2007 07:00:39] <iscream> r u around?
[23-Jul-2007 07:01:29] <Merciless> Yes iscream
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:18] <iscream> Merciless :
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:19] <iscream> ohh
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:26] <Merciless> ?
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:27] <iscream> i forgot what i wanted to ask you about...
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:29] <iscream> :S
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:33] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:39] <iscream> minute...:)
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:54] <Merciless> ok
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:54] <iscream> o
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:55] <iscream> i got it
[23-Jul-2007 07:06:20] <iscream> have we figured out how can we alert or something when a process goes down?
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:05] <Merciless> if you monitor a process it should do it automatically like with the service as far as I'm aware
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:07] <Merciless> have you tried it/
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:16] <iscream> ohh
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:18] <iscream> i see it now
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:33] <iscream> fail severity
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:39] <iscream> in the process
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:03] <iscream> same as services
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:33] <Merciless> aye
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:36] <Merciless> still doesnt work for me tho
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:37] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:41] <Merciless> wonder if SNMP Informant is required for it
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:54] <Merciless> i know my WMI is working ok so thats the only thing
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:20] <iscream> Merciless: the service monitoring isnt working?
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:35] <Merciless> thats right
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:39] <iscream> hmm
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:39] <Merciless> it wont monitor my services properly
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:47] <Merciless> when one goes down, it doesnt go down on zenoss
[23-Jul-2007 07:12:28] <iscream> yeah, its familiar with the case i have:), i close the process, and still it shows its up...but when i remodell the device, its ok
[23-Jul-2007 07:12:46] <iscream> i donno, maybe the remodelling timeinterval must be smaller or donno
[23-Jul-2007 07:13:59] <Merciless> remodelling is a big process though
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:07] <Merciless> it should be able ot monitor services and processes without remodelling
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:11] <iscream> yeah
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:15] <iscream> i thought so
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:25] <iscream> but i was wrong i guess
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:41] <iscream> i waited 30-60minutes to change its state, but nothing happened
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:44] <Merciless> na cant be wrong that'd be silly lol
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:48] <Merciless> must be somet broken
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:54] <iscream> sure:D
[23-Jul-2007 07:16:22] <iscream> i am broken...from all of these very good things that i cannot do properly:
[23-Jul-2007 07:26:43] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 07:34:51] <iscream> Merciless
[23-Jul-2007 07:35:03] <iscream> Now you are monitoring this process, so after a remodel (which you can do manually or it occurs
[23-Jul-2007 07:35:03] <iscream> at 6 hour intervals)
[23-Jul-2007 07:43:29] <Merciless> ?
[23-Jul-2007 07:59:55] <iscream> i found it in the admin guide
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:11] <iscream> it will automatic change its state at 6hours interval:D
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:40] <Merciless> but thats crazy
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:46] <Merciless> if its a really important service
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:50] <Merciless> for a customer lets say
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:55] <Merciless> then i'd need to know like asap
[23-Jul-2007 08:01:30] <Merciless> wonder if theres a way to hack/cahnge it lol
[23-Jul-2007 08:02:16] <iscream> i think
[23-Jul-2007 08:02:21] <iscream> its default the 6hour
[23-Jul-2007 08:02:25] <iscream> we can change it
[23-Jul-2007 08:03:30] <Merciless> is it ok to have it like every 10 mins?
[23-Jul-2007 08:03:36] <Merciless> or would that cause problems to the system
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:08] <iscream> http://ZENHOST:8080/zport/dmd/Monitors/Performance/localhost
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:09] <iscream> check this out
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:09] <iscream> in the monitors
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:09] <iscream> maybe there can we change intervals
[23-Jul-2007 08:06:42] <iscream> Config Cycle Interval (mins) 360
[23-Jul-2007 08:06:47] <iscream> i think this is it
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:24] <Merciless> aaaaaaaaye
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:28] <Merciless> but tahst config cycle :s
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:30] <Merciless> not remodel
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:34] <iscream> maybe if we change it to 10, it would be "more active" ... and would eat more from the server CPU
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:52] <iscream> remodel does the config change search
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:07] <Merciless> hmm
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:11] <Merciless> i think we need professional advice
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:13] <Merciless> Bulwinkle!!!!!!
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:13] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:18] <iscream> ehhe:D
[23-Jul-2007 08:14:34] <iscream> Merciless : it would be it
[23-Jul-2007 08:14:41] <iscream> we are professionals 2:P
[23-Jul-2007 08:16:33] <jp10558> I just checked in, but you want to know if a new process starts as opposed to if a monitored process changes states?
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:01] <Merciless> no
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:04] <Merciless> monitored process changes state
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:10] <Merciless> and monitored service
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:20] <Merciless> but without waiting 6 hours as it could be a critical process etc
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:01] <iscream> Merciless : it would be it
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:04] <iscream> i try i now
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:13] <iscream> i tryin' it now
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:16] <jp10558> I get results with 2.0.3 regarding a process changing state (say it stops) in about 2 minutes? Well, with windows clients anyway
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:38] <Merciless> well im usingin an earlier version for a start
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:44] <Merciless> maybe upgrading might help hmmm
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:48] <Merciless> mine simply won't update
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:55] <jp10558> Well, I used 1.1.1 and had the same performance with ZenWin etc
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:00] <Merciless> oooo
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:05] <Merciless> your using zenwin for it?
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:09] <iscream> zenwin
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:10] <iscream> ehhe
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:10] <Merciless> im not using zenwin or snmpinformant
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:11] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:13] <Merciless> just standard mibs
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:19] <iscream> mercirless is trendy:)
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:28] <iscream> without anythingm, just pure energy:D
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:30] <jp10558> Are you monitoring Windows machines or Linux or something else?
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:34] <Merciless> windows
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:41] <Merciless> other things as well but im concentrating on windwos atm
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:45] <jp10558> How do you get process monitoring without zenwin?
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:02] <jp10558> I can't see any way to export that SNMP data with the built in client
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:12] <jp10558> I have to use WMI (and it seems it's easier also)
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:14] <Merciless> Noooo idea. Currently you can do service monitoring without zenwin though
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:29] <jp10558> Oh, are you talking about IP services?
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:45] <Merciless> nope. WinServices
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:46] <Merciless> i.e
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:47] <Merciless> err
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:49] <jp10558> I see, yes, that works - but does sometimes seem to be off compared to the WMI monitoring
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:49] <Merciless> ClipBook
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:55] <jp10558> Clipbook?
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:56] <Merciless> hmmm
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:01] <Merciless> ye its a windows service
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:04] <Merciless> uselss but there
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:11] <Merciless> i was doing it to test with
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:12] <jp10558> you looking with 1.1.x or 2.x?
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:16] <Merciless> 2.x
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:19] <Merciless> its in the list
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:21] <jp10558> let me take a look
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:26] <Merciless> but when i shut clipbook service down it doesnt update.. :s
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:27] <Merciless> et
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:28] <Merciless> *etc
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:30] <jp10558> err
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:42] <jp10558> with 2.x, did you happen to model the device as a Windows machine?
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:46] <Merciless> yes
[23-Jul-2007 08:25:33] <jp10558> Did you ever modify the zProperties with a username/account?
[23-Jul-2007 08:26:07] <Merciless> yup
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[23-Jul-2007 10:20:47] <iscream> jp10558
[23-Jul-2007 10:20:50] <iscream> r u here?
[23-Jul-2007 10:23:59] <Merciless> I am
[23-Jul-2007 10:24:03] <Merciless> but i'm not much use
[23-Jul-2007 10:24:04] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:11] <iscream> dont be silly
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:21] <iscream> i installed the new vmware applicant
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:37] <iscream> and wanted to auto discover devices, it found 0 devices:S
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:42] <iscream> and a lot of error:S
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:54] <iscream> i think tomrrow i will see againand again for problems:S
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:09 INFO zen Executing command: /home/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net=192.168.0.0
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:17 INFO zen INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '192.168.0.0'
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:17 INFO zen INFO:zen.Ping:starting ping cycle Mon Jul 23 16:29:17 2007
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:20 INFO zen INFO:zen.Ping:ping cycle complete Mon Jul 23 16:29:20 2007
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:20 INFO zen INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.50 seconds
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:36] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:21 INFO zen INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:38] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:21 INFO zen Done
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:40] <iscream> Navigate to network
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:42] <iscream>
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[23-Jul-2007 10:30:43] <Merciless> erm
[23-Jul-2007 10:30:54] <Merciless> your using a public string right?
[23-Jul-2007 10:30:58] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:01] <Merciless> weird :s
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:10] <Merciless> try and ping an ip with snmp enabled from the console in vmware
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:45] <Merciless> and if its pinging but getting no reply.. thats a weird one becuase i take it your connected through http
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:51] <iscream> ohhh
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:54] <iscream> i got it
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:55] <iscream> thx
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:37] <iscream> no
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:41] <iscream> i havent got it
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:44] <iscream> hm hm
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:51] <iscream> maybe tomorrow i will have more luck
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:56] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:58] <Merciless> what did u think it was?
[23-Jul-2007 10:33:18] <iscream> cause of the vmware i thought it was problem with brigded/nat problem
[23-Jul-2007 10:33:59] <iscream> but it was ok bridged, also when i add a specific ip it is adding it, but when it comes to auto discovery it gives an info above
[23-Jul-2007 10:34:41] <Merciless> im assuming the devices are on the network 192.168.0.0/24
[23-Jul-2007 10:34:42] <Merciless> ?
[23-Jul-2007 10:34:59] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:02] <iscream> its strange
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:11] <iscream> in the 2.0.0 ther wasnt any of this kind of info...
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream> Broadcom 440x 10_100 Integrated Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream> ip 192.168.0.76 is down
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:28] <iscream> 2007/07/23 16:29:20.000
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:30] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:32] <iscream> 2007/07/23 16:29:20.000
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:34] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:36] <iscream> 1
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:39] <iscream> no controller, only warning that the IP is down
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:43] <Merciless> try adding the device manually?
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:45] <iscream> now ip, and the controller is down
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:50] <iscream> then its ok
[23-Jul-2007 10:36:04] <iscream> but i should add all the PCs add to it...?:S
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[23-Jul-2007 10:46:40] <iscream> 2.0.0 better for me...:P
[23-Jul-2007 10:47:23] <Merciless> sounds it
[23-Jul-2007 10:48:42] <iscream> i read things bout 2.0.3 and there are just bugs and kind of things ...so its not to good:)
[23-Jul-2007 10:48:44] <iscream> yet
[23-Jul-2007 10:50:01] <Merciless> o ye like what?
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:23] <iscream> maybe it will be okay, but now i think 2.0.3 has more problems, than positives
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:30] <iscream> i go home
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:31] <iscream> im sick:P
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:59] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 10:53:02] <iscream> so
[23-Jul-2007 10:53:05] <iscream> have fun!
[23-Jul-2007 10:53:06] <iscream> byebye
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[23-Jul-2007 11:18:48] <jp10558> I'm back
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[23-Jul-2007 12:00:04] <Merciless> how are you jp10558
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[23-Jul-2007 14:42:07] <davetoo> </crickets>
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[23-Jul-2007 15:39:34] <Keizer> Sup guys
[23-Jul-2007 15:39:45] <Keizer> Where do I define the mysql authentication info?
[23-Jul-2007 15:39:56] <Keizer> I'm gettings mysql authentication errors
[23-Jul-2007 15:40:02] <Keizer> I just need to know the config file
[23-Jul-2007 15:44:16] <Bulwinkle> Keizer: you have to do it in mysql
[23-Jul-2007 15:44:28] <Bulwinkle> Keizer: its kept in the mysql database
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[23-Jul-2007 15:51:36] <Keizer> Bulwinkle: That doens't make sense to me but ok
[23-Jul-2007 15:51:45] <Keizer> Wait a sec
[23-Jul-2007 15:51:59] <Keizer> I meant the zenoss username/password for mysql
[23-Jul-2007 15:52:05] <Keizer> Is it zenoss/zenoss?
[23-Jul-2007 15:56:22] <Bulwinkle> Keizer: I don't know
[23-Jul-2007 16:06:20] <davetoo> Keizer: are you asking about the VMware appliance install? Or RPM or Source?
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[23-Jul-2007 16:20:59] <Keizer> [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.defer.FirstError: FirstError(<twisted.python.failure.Failure exceptions.AttributeError>, 1)
[23-Jul-2007 16:22:55] <Keizer> WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Reconnected to ZenHub
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[23-Jul-2007 17:58:05] <davetoo> Aw, Maaaan.... Why doesn't ZDeviceLoader.loadDevice() return the new device???
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[23-Jul-2007 19:37:50] <eurowerke> wow real active here today ^_^
[23-Jul-2007 19:37:58] <eurowerke> lol
[23-Jul-2007 19:52:45] <davetoo> So far it's always seemed dead in the middle of the US workday
[23-Jul-2007 19:52:49] <davetoo> when I need help the most
[23-Jul-2007 19:59:42] <bzed> yeah, for me it seems most time european people are around here
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[23-Jul-2007 20:06:07] <eurowerke> hrm
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[24-Jul-2007 00:22:01] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Farewell, Zenoss - 23 Jul, 11:04PM
[24-Jul-2007 00:22:01] * DaveToo yawns
[24-Jul-2007 00:22:02] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=141
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[24-Jul-2007 02:20:12] <iscream> good "morning"
[24-Jul-2007 02:21:20] <Darkfang> hi
[24-Jul-2007 02:56:28] <Darkfang> i'm modifying Filesystem template
[24-Jul-2007 02:56:38] <Darkfang> how do you get the partition name in zenoss?
[24-Jul-2007 02:56:45] <Darkfang> (i need it to run a ssh command)
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[24-Jul-2007 03:04:05] <iscream> why would you need it?
[24-Jul-2007 03:05:16] <Darkfang> to run a df command ^^
[24-Jul-2007 03:05:22] <Darkfang> only on the right partition
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:05] <Darkfang> i want to run this df -m | awk '{if($6=="diskname") {if(substr($1,0,9) == "/dev/disk") {printf("DISK OK | ratio=%s\n",$5)} else {print "VIRTUAL DISK OK | ratio=0%"} exit 0;}}'
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:12] <Darkfang> where diskname = partition name
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:32] <Darkfang> i need this because OS X uses lots of virtual disk
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:39] <Darkfang> and they are all at 100% usage
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:46] <iscream> i see
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:57] <iscream> look in the zenoss-user forum
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:08] <iscream> i think once i found something familiar with it
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:17] <Darkfang> maybe something like ${here/name}
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:22] <Darkfang> or something like this
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:26] <Darkfang> i'll check
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <iscream> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=1
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View Forum - zenoss-users (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <iscream> search in this forum
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <iscream> i guess
[24-Jul-2007 03:15:10] <Darkfang> can't find it :s
[24-Jul-2007 03:21:47] <iscream> i hate it : WMI error talking to XXX: com_error(88): DOS code 0x00000058 - i wrote in the zenwinuser ...but still
[24-Jul-2007 03:24:42] <Darkfang> is there any mean to list all the attribute of a device?
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[24-Jul-2007 03:52:41] <Merciless> morning all
[24-Jul-2007 03:53:42] <iscream> morning 2 you 2
[24-Jul-2007 03:54:00] <Merciless> how are you
[24-Jul-2007 03:54:57] <iscream> u can read my today's issue:P
[24-Jul-2007 04:01:27] <Merciless> whats that?
[24-Jul-2007 04:02:23] <iscream> i hate it : WMI error talking to XXX: com_error(88): DOS code 0x00000058 - i wrote in the zenwinuser ...but still
[24-Jul-2007 04:03:33] <Merciless> does wbemtest work for that machine
[24-Jul-2007 04:03:49] <Merciless> and maybe you wrote the wrong things in it?
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:12] <iscream> just the yesterdays xp notebook
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:19] <iscream> i wrote in the user
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:25] <iscream> cause i havent got adminpassword
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:38] <iscream> cluther sad its ok the blank password
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:44] <Merciless> yup
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:51] <Merciless> it will just login with the username in that case and no password
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:52] <iscream> yesterday was ok the wbemtest
[24-Jul-2007 04:05:03] <Merciless> you get the same error with or without? and try the wbemtest again ;0
[24-Jul-2007 04:05:05] <iscream> after that was wrog
[24-Jul-2007 04:06:39] <iscream> wbemtest is ok
[24-Jul-2007 04:06:52] <Merciless> ok and you get the same error with and without the username in there?
[24-Jul-2007 04:07:48] <iscream> when i leave blank in the zwinuser?
[24-Jul-2007 04:08:06] <Darkfang> Merciless, do you know how to get a partition name using THALES expression in a filesystem template?
[24-Jul-2007 04:09:02] <Merciless> no.
[24-Jul-2007 04:09:05] <Merciless> yes iscream
[24-Jul-2007 04:09:33] <Merciless> iscream : Im trying to determine if it still things its a bad username/password.. so to test, we can purposly put in a bad one and see if we get the SAME error
[24-Jul-2007 04:10:48] <iscream> Merciless : yes
[24-Jul-2007 04:11:12] <iscream> Merciless: with blank zwinuser same problem
[24-Jul-2007 04:11:41] <iscream> its strange, cause i havent changed anything since yesterday, and then was okay, and today i have this
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:02] <Merciless> you restarted zenoss services?
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:05] <Merciless> and your laptop/
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:44] <iscream> im just restarting the laptop
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:52] <iscream> the zenoss services yes
[24-Jul-2007 04:14:01] <Merciless> how odd try removing the device from zenoss and readding it
[24-Jul-2007 04:14:18] <iscream> okay
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:03] <iscream> now
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:05] <iscream> wmi talking error
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:10] <iscream> i set up the username
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:16] <iscream> './username'
[24-Jul-2007 04:17:00] <Merciless> just do
[24-Jul-2007 04:17:01] <Merciless> Administrator
[24-Jul-2007 04:17:02] <Merciless> no ./
[24-Jul-2007 04:18:59] <iscream> stoÃ�©Ã�©
[24-Jul-2007 04:19:01] <iscream> still
[24-Jul-2007 04:19:25] <Merciless>
[24-Jul-2007 04:19:40] <iscream> first time it was the problem i wrote in, now it cannot connect :S
[24-Jul-2007 04:20:27] <Merciless> u looked on the forum?
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:29] <iscream> yeah
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:34] <iscream> i had before this problem
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:48] <iscream> than i just wrote in './winadmin' and was ok
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:50] <iscream> now its not
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:52] <iscream> well
[24-Jul-2007 04:22:00] <iscream> i'll be waiting if something happens:P
[24-Jul-2007 04:22:46] <Merciless> good luck
[24-Jul-2007 04:23:07] <Merciless> right now i have to burn CentOS to cd.. partition this other computer I have here.. stick CentOS on it.. then figure out how the hell to install Zenoss to it
[24-Jul-2007 04:23:46] <iscream> its simple:D
[24-Jul-2007 04:24:28] <iscream> http://webaj.com/how-install-zenoss-1-1-2-centos-5-0-server-and-network-monitoring.htm
[24-Jul-2007 04:24:28] <adytum-bot> Title: How to install Zenoss 1.1.2 on Centos 5.0 - Server and network monitoring. | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[24-Jul-2007 04:26:08] <Merciless> thats for1.1.2 though
[24-Jul-2007 04:26:12] <Merciless> not sure if its the same due to python
[24-Jul-2007 04:26:53] <iscream> i think familiar, still python2.4
[24-Jul-2007 04:27:53] <Merciless> http://webaj.com/zenoss-2-0-core-installation-guide-centos-looks-network-and-server-monitoring-has-gone-web-2-0.htm
[24-Jul-2007 04:27:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.0 core installation guide for CentOS. Looks like network and server monitoring has gone web 2.0 | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[24-Jul-2007 04:27:55] <Merciless> thats better
[24-Jul-2007 04:28:39] <iscream>
[24-Jul-2007 04:30:40] <Merciless> brb phone
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[24-Jul-2007 05:03:03] <Darkfang> when i run zencommand on a device it tells there's no scheduled commands although there are many differents commands used for rrd graphics ?O
[24-Jul-2007 05:19:43] <Darkfang> no idea?
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[24-Jul-2007 05:38:17] <Merciless> back
[24-Jul-2007 05:38:21] * Merciless kicks iscream
[24-Jul-2007 05:38:24] <Merciless> you there?
[24-Jul-2007 05:43:26] <iscream> wwhahata?
[24-Jul-2007 05:43:35] <iscream> ttzup?:P
[24-Jul-2007 05:45:51] <Darkfang> How can you use a "$" in a ssh command?
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:20] <Darkfang> it seems zenoss doesn't appreciate the use of a $ if it's not a thales expression ^^
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:45] <Merciless> maybe in "" Darkfang
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:46] <Merciless> at a gues
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:51] <Merciless> or '
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[24-Jul-2007 05:50:51] <Darkfang> i tried "", ' ' and \
[24-Jul-2007 05:50:54] <Darkfang> not working :@
[24-Jul-2007 06:05:12] <Darkfang> its $$
[24-Jul-2007 06:05:14] <Darkfang> ^^
[24-Jul-2007 06:09:25] <Merciless> lol
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[24-Jul-2007 07:21:18] <iscream> Merciless : r u here?
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[24-Jul-2007 07:31:55] <iscream> or
[24-Jul-2007 07:32:00] <iscream> jp10558 : r u here?
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[24-Jul-2007 07:48:40] <Merciless> I am iscream
[24-Jul-2007 07:49:02] <iscream> Merciless : im stucked with this wmi error
[24-Jul-2007 07:49:06] <iscream> it cann connect
[24-Jul-2007 07:49:10] <iscream> but cannot communicate:S
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[24-Jul-2007 08:06:48] <Darkfang> i'm still looking for a way to get the partition name using thales expression for the filesystem template
[24-Jul-2007 08:07:31] <Merciless> lol
[24-Jul-2007 08:07:37] <Merciless> FORUMS people ^-^
[24-Jul-2007 08:07:56] <Darkfang> ?
[24-Jul-2007 08:13:55] <jp10558> iscream: I am here
[24-Jul-2007 08:14:10] <jp10558> early morning for me
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[24-Jul-2007 08:16:52] <iscream> jp10558 : nice:P
[24-Jul-2007 08:18:09] <iscream> jp10558 : so ...yesterday my xp was ok, but today, it sends me a WMI error...:
[24-Jul-2007 08:18:10] <iscream> WMI error talking to XXX: com_error(88): DOS code 0x00000058
[24-Jul-2007 08:21:27] <jp10558> mmm
[24-Jul-2007 08:21:39] <jp10558> Can't say I've seen that before
[24-Jul-2007 08:22:11] <jp10558> Can you still do a wbemtest from another windows machine to the target XP machine using the same credentials as ZenOSS is using?
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[24-Jul-2007 08:37:45] <iscream> jp10558
[24-Jul-2007 08:37:54] <iscream> i can do he wbemtest on the XP machine
[24-Jul-2007 08:38:01] <iscream> from another i havent tried yet
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:13] <iscream> access denied
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:19] <iscream> but on the target XP
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:25] <iscream> i have only admin user and thats all
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:27] <iscream> empty pass
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[24-Jul-2007 08:45:31] <F350> hi guys, i have some problems with 2.0.3, to be more precise, with the zenmodeler going down every 10 min
[24-Jul-2007 08:45:56] <F350> is this a bug ? i saw people complaining in the forum about that
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[24-Jul-2007 09:00:41] <F350> anyone here ?
[24-Jul-2007 09:12:13] <iscream> jp10558
[24-Jul-2007 09:12:16] <iscream> any clue?
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[24-Jul-2007 09:17:19] <Darkfang> has anyone ever get this when launching snmpd?
[24-Jul-2007 09:17:24] <Darkfang> error opening specified endpoint: udp:161
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[24-Jul-2007 09:47:42] <iscream> bye
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[24-Jul-2007 10:19:12] <jp10558> sorryt
[24-Jul-2007 10:19:41] <jp10558> mmm
[24-Jul-2007 10:20:22] <jp10558> Darkfang: is there any other service holding that port open on the linux machine
[24-Jul-2007 10:25:00] <tty01> anyone know if theres a way to add the total from 3 different data sources into a graph?
[24-Jul-2007 10:33:46] <Darkfang> i tried to see with netstat but nothing
[24-Jul-2007 10:33:50] <Darkfang> it seems i have to reboot it
[24-Jul-2007 10:33:57] <Darkfang> it solved the probleme for many peopel
[24-Jul-2007 10:34:27] * Darkfang is still looking for a way to get a partition name using THALES expression in the Filesystem template
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[24-Jul-2007 10:56:04] <jamesc> I get the error ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network on a Windows system I'm trying to model. It seems to be related to WMI but I'm not sure how to troubleshoot or fix it.
[24-Jul-2007 10:56:19] <jamesc> s/error/event/
[24-Jul-2007 10:56:37] <Merciless> make sure WMI is working
[24-Jul-2007 10:56:48] <Merciless> search for wbemtest in google, i think the first link is a zenoss page with how to test wmi
[24-Jul-2007 10:57:14] <Merciless> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-test-wmi-connectivity/
[24-Jul-2007 10:57:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Jul-2007 10:59:02] <jamesc> Maybe I should have clarified that. I've done the basic WMI stuff listed in the manual from my own workstation - that works - but I'm not sure how I can troubleshoot from ZenOSS, which is running on a Linux box.
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[24-Jul-2007 11:01:08] <jamesc> I don't really want to set up a userid/password for ZenOSS to speak to the Windows box - I'd be happy with SNMP and external scripts for individual services - so I tried setting ignoreWMI in the zProperties for the device
[24-Jul-2007 11:01:40] <jamesc> but I still get that error.
[24-Jul-2007 11:04:06] <Merciless> well then it shouldnt be related to WMI
[24-Jul-2007 11:04:11] <Merciless> so it wont model at all?/
[24-Jul-2007 11:04:19] <Merciless> it seems like Zenoss can't write the information to its own disk :s
[24-Jul-2007 11:08:07] <jamesc> but the ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT googles to a lot of Microsoft-specific errors in Windows.
[24-Jul-2007 11:20:25] <jamesc> It'll model with SNMP all right. And that's all I need.
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:01] <jp10558> Setting ignore WMI to true should stop WMI monitoring
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:05] <jamesc> hold on - what does zWinEventLog do - is that trying to scan the Windows Event Log by any chance?
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:21] <jp10558> It would be, you also needto turn that off
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:46] <jamesc> ah... that was still set to true... let's try setting it to false and see what happens.
[24-Jul-2007 11:22:52] <jp10558> good idea
[24-Jul-2007 11:23:05] <jp10558> I've never wanted only SNMP on windows though.
[24-Jul-2007 11:29:03] <jamesc> seeing as I only administer one Windows server, and the only service on it I care about is SQL Server, I think I can live with nothing but SNMP and a few scripts migrated from my previous Nagios installation.
[24-Jul-2007 11:29:35] <bzed> jamesc: poor man
[24-Jul-2007 11:29:53] <bzed> I'm proudly wearing 'no I will not fix your windows' at work
[24-Jul-2007 11:31:21] <jamesc> bzed: I am the IT department. While I've been able to resist the likes of Exchange and Sharepoint, I wasn't able to resist the likes of "upgrade to Sage which requires SQL Server". And that department pays my wages.
[24-Jul-2007 11:32:13] <jamesc> nope, still there. "ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)"
[24-Jul-2007 11:33:21] <jamesc> purely out of morbid curiosity, I probably ought to see if something like that is appearing in event viewer on the server itself.
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[24-Jul-2007 11:34:58] <jp10558> why not just set the machine not to be part of the Windows class?
[24-Jul-2007 11:35:34] <jamesc> that's what I was going to do next.
[24-Jul-2007 11:40:14] <dwigh1> Does anyone have any info on how ZenOSS (2.0 on Centos 5) affects sendmail?
[24-Jul-2007 11:40:49] <jamesc> yet still the same problem persists
[24-Jul-2007 11:41:43] <jamesc> is there any way I can run the Windows modeller from a Linux command line with more verbosity to see where in the procedure it goes wrong?
[24-Jul-2007 11:42:38] <jp10558> you should be able to look at the logs
[24-Jul-2007 11:42:41] <jp10558> from the web interface
[24-Jul-2007 11:42:49] <jp10558> from settings -> daemons
[24-Jul-2007 11:44:41] <jp10558> You can run things from the command line, but I don't know the commands myself
[24-Jul-2007 11:45:57] <jamesc> don't think that will be necessary - I suspect it may have something to do with me not having supplied a username/password
[24-Jul-2007 11:46:28] <dwigh1> pg 123 of the admin guide
[24-Jul-2007 11:46:35] <dwigh1> just FYI
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWin/zenwinmodeler.py", line 63, in processLoop
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> svcs = self.getServices(name, user, passwd)
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWin/zenwinmodeler.py", line 97, in getServices
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> dev.connect()
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWin/wmiclient.py", line 51, in connect
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> self.flags,self.valueset)
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:05] <jamesc> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/win32com/client.py", line 33, in ConnectServer
[24-Jul-2007 11:48:43] <jamesc> ahh..... unless - I have a whole bunch of services which I monitor by default. Some of which this Windows box is running, and thus show up in the OS tab. Does ZenOSS use WMI to monitor those on Windows hosts by any chance?
[24-Jul-2007 11:50:40] <jp10558> Yes, zenOSS uses WMI to monitor Windows Services
[24-Jul-2007 11:52:44] <dwigh1> Only the services listed under the "Win Services" heading for the device
[24-Jul-2007 11:53:03] <dwigh1> It seems not to add any by default
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[24-Jul-2007 11:54:55] <jamesc> ah right... so IP services are still monitored by regex then. Damn, that rules that out.
[24-Jul-2007 11:56:01] <jamesc> even adding a username/pw combo to zProperties, it still doesn't work and I have the same error in the service logs
[24-Jul-2007 11:56:20] <dwigh1> yeah, I noticed that it will not show the "Win Services" heading at all if it can't connect
[24-Jul-2007 11:56:41] <dwigh1> Have you tested your user/pass with wbemtest?
[24-Jul-2007 11:57:46] <jamesc> yes, but that doesn't really prove much because it worked anonymously which certainly shouldn't work.
[24-Jul-2007 11:59:05] <dwigh1> yeah, that doesn't sound right
[24-Jul-2007 12:00:24] <jamesc> I suspect with impersonation level set to "Impersonate", it was authenticating under my own username/pw - which of course works because I'm a domain admin...
[24-Jul-2007 12:01:22] <jamesc> how the hell can you have a NET WRITE FAULT anyway?
[24-Jul-2007 12:02:58] <jamesc> what is a NET WRITE FAULT? Microsoft helpfully say "it's a fault writing to the network".
[24-Jul-2007 12:03:55] <dwigh1> Honestly I have no idea
[24-Jul-2007 12:04:26] <dwigh1> Have you tried using wbemtest from an unpriviledged account?
[24-Jul-2007 12:05:18] <dwigh1> Oh, is the machine you're trying to monitor a domain controller?
[24-Jul-2007 12:05:35] <Darkfang> anyone ever had this?
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> ERROR:zen.ApplyDataMap:plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device WebServ
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> Traceback (most recent call last):
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 96, in processClient
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 137, in _applyDataMap
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:15] <Darkfang> changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:17] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 172, in _updateRelationship
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:19] <Darkfang> changed = self._createRelObject(device, objmap, rname)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:21] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 304, in _createRelObject
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:23] <Darkfang> self._updateObject(remoteObj, objmap)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:25] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 246, in _updateObject
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <Darkfang> setter(value)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py", line 243, in setIpAddresses
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:31] <Darkfang> self.addIpAddress(ip)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:35] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py", line 197, in addIpAddress
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:37] <Darkfang> ip, netmask = self._prepIp(ip, netmask)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:39] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py", line 190, in _prepIp
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:41] <Darkfang> netmask = maskToBits(iparray[1])
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:43] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/IpUtil.py", line 126, in maskToBits
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:45] <Darkfang> return int(netmask)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:47] <Darkfang> ValueError: invalid literal for int(): None
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:49] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/IpUtil.py", line 126, in maskToBits
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:51] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/IpUtil.py", line 126, in maskToBits
[24-Jul-2007 12:07:22] <jamesc> dwigh: nope, it's just a domain member server. I think I'll call it a day for today as I've been staring at this screen for most of the day trying to make sense of what's going on.
[24-Jul-2007 12:07:47] <jamesc> Thanks for your help, everyone. Kudos to the dev team and stick at it, ZenOSS is a great piece of work.
[24-Jul-2007 12:07:58] <dwigh1> good luck
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[24-Jul-2007 16:49:08] <eurowerke> anyone around?
[24-Jul-2007 16:49:34] <jp10558> I am for a few minutes
[24-Jul-2007 16:49:50] <eurowerke> is there a place in 2.0.x to send a test email like you could in 1.2.x?
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:08] <jp10558> Yes
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:12] <eurowerke> perhaps directly through one of the daemons?
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:17] <eurowerke> is it GUIfied still?
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:20] <eurowerke>
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:27] <jp10558> Yes
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:30] <jp10558> Log in
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:30] <eurowerke> i've looked and can't find it anywhere lol
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:31] <eurowerke> k
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:35] <jp10558> click on preferences for the user
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:39] <eurowerke> ooohhhh
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:39] <eurowerke> hahaha
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:44] <jp10558> click on "Test" next to their e-mail address
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:49] <eurowerke> the ONE place I didn't check
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:11] <eurowerke> I thought I remembered it being under the alert settings or something
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:13] <eurowerke> *duh*
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:14] <eurowerke> thanks
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:15] <eurowerke> !
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:21] <jp10558> no problem
[24-Jul-2007 16:53:18] <eurowerke> what about for the admin user?
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:06] <eurowerke> I think I did check this area, admin user isn't listed under normal Settings-> Users tab
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:19] <jp10558> In general - I've read that the admin user should NOT be used for anything beyond the initial setup
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:39] <jp10558> create a site specific user who has Manager role
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:58] <jp10558> I assume this is for security, or it's a bug that works out the same
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:09] <jp10558> but admin user will not do e-mail properly if at all for alerts or anything
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:15] <eurowerke> yeah
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:18] <eurowerke> figured that was the case
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:37] <jp10558> anyway, my workday is done, so see everyone tomorrow!
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[24-Jul-2007 17:12:52] <davetoo> Well, this is "interesting"
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[24-Jul-2007 17:13:08] <davetoo> aka "slightly disappointing"
[24-Jul-2007 17:14:26] <davetoo> If you add a non-snmp device via the DeviceLoader (either in zendmd/python or the web interface), you don't get an IP in the corresponding Network
[24-Jul-2007 17:14:42] <davetoo> but if you run zendisc against the network, you *do*
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[24-Jul-2007 17:25:06] <bfinney> When I'm trying to model some servers I keep on getting 'ERROR zen.SnmpClient Unable to talk to device' and 'ERROR zen.SnmpClient Device timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?'. However I can do an snmpwalk without issue from within zenoss and from the commandline. Any ideas where else to look for the cause?
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[25-Jul-2007 00:22:43] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Farewell, Zenoss - 23 Jul, 11:04PM
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[25-Jul-2007 02:39:27] <iscream> good morning
[25-Jul-2007 02:40:01] <iscream> jp10558 : pls tell me if you are here
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[25-Jul-2007 04:05:49] <Merciless> morning all
[25-Jul-2007 04:10:37] <iscream> hello
[25-Jul-2007 04:11:15] <Merciless> how are you
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:25] <Merciless> hmm
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:28] <Merciless> centos 4 = EL4
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:31] <Merciless> centos 5 = EL5
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:33] <Merciless> is that right?
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:44] <iscream> hy
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:49] <iscream> and yes
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:52] <iscream> im ok thanks
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:56] <iscream> & u?
[25-Jul-2007 04:36:31] <Merciless> I'm not bad thanks
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[25-Jul-2007 04:37:27] <Darkfang> hi
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[25-Jul-2007 04:59:42] <iscream> Merciless
[25-Jul-2007 04:59:50] <iscream> how are you doing with your job?
[25-Jul-2007 05:00:53] <Merciless> Waiting
[25-Jul-2007 05:01:01] <Merciless> im trying to get hold of a server to install centos on
[25-Jul-2007 05:01:10] <Merciless> or possible find out if it can be installed on a Sun Solaris box
[25-Jul-2007 05:05:36] <Darkfang> Merciless, it should be possible soon
[25-Jul-2007 05:05:45] <Darkfang> it's already possible with 4.2 beta
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[25-Jul-2007 05:06:21] <Darkfang> but why don' t you install solaris?
[25-Jul-2007 05:06:29] <Darkfang> more stable, more secure
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[25-Jul-2007 05:13:59] <iscream> or VMWare...
[25-Jul-2007 05:14:45] <Merciless> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/solaris-10-installation-instructions/
[25-Jul-2007 05:14:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2007 05:14:45] <Merciless> is that ALL i will need to do to get it working? Or do I need to install other things which aren't mendtioned in there
[25-Jul-2007 05:16:01] <Darkfang> certainly some stuff like python 2.4
[25-Jul-2007 05:16:24] <Darkfang> are you using 64 bit SPARC?
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[25-Jul-2007 05:24:19] <iscream> python yes
[25-Jul-2007 05:24:19] <Darkfang> Is it possible to make "statistical" threashold?
[25-Jul-2007 05:24:35] <Merciless> no idea
[25-Jul-2007 05:24:49] <Darkfang> it would be useful for ping delay for example
[25-Jul-2007 05:25:06] <Darkfang> it it get to long compare to average in history, you have an error
[25-Jul-2007 05:27:27] <iscream> how do u mean ping delay?
[25-Jul-2007 05:27:56] <Darkfang> I mean round trip time
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:09] <Darkfang> if you usually have a 200ms ping
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:17] <Darkfang> 220 ms is not a big deal
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:22] <iscream> i see
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:26] <Darkfang> if you usually have 0.5 ms, 220 is ^^
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[25-Jul-2007 05:29:08] <Darkfang> could be done using derivate datapoint?
[25-Jul-2007 05:30:06] <iscream> donno :S
[25-Jul-2007 05:30:13] <Darkfang> is it possible to acces previous values in a threshold?
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[25-Jul-2007 06:41:45] <inktechsupport> hi
[25-Jul-2007 06:43:18] <inktechsupport> on a device's zProperties I set the zWinEventlog to True and it started successfully pulling in all the event log information from the server
[25-Jul-2007 06:43:42] <inktechsupport> however, I decided I didn't want so much, so tried setting the EventLogMinSeverity to 1
[25-Jul-2007 06:44:03] <inktechsupport> but it made no difference, events with severity 3 and even 4 still keep coming in
[25-Jul-2007 06:44:28] <inktechsupport> so I tried setting the zWinEventLog to false to stop them altogether, but they still keep coming
[25-Jul-2007 06:44:39] <inktechsupport> how do I make them stop? :-)
[25-Jul-2007 06:47:56] <Merciless> at a guess
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:00] <Merciless> 3 and 4 is higher than 1
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:05] <Merciless> thus min 1 means anything over 1
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:10] <Merciless> i.e 3 and 4
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:45] <Merciless> what type of server, and what type of events?
[25-Jul-2007 06:49:01] <Merciless> WinEventLog might only cover WMI events...
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[25-Jul-2007 07:02:35] <inktechsupport> 1 is the highest priority, it says so in the documentation
[25-Jul-2007 07:03:23] <inktechsupport> just found the "Push Changes" option in the Manage menu, going to see if that makes a difference
[25-Jul-2007 07:10:26] <Merciless> any luck?
[25-Jul-2007 07:10:55] <inktechsupport> nope, with zWinEventLog set to false, it is still pulling in the event log
[25-Jul-2007 07:11:14] <inktechsupport> it didn't pull the event log in before I set it to true
[25-Jul-2007 07:16:04] <inktechsupport> am I missing something?
[25-Jul-2007 07:17:12] <Merciless> what events exactly are the ones been pulled through
[25-Jul-2007 07:17:43] <inktechsupport> any errors that turn up in the windows event log on the server being monitored
[25-Jul-2007 07:18:34] <iscream> Zwinevent must be false
[25-Jul-2007 07:18:36] <iscream> i think
[25-Jul-2007 07:19:34] <inktechsupport> yes, that's what I'm saying, with zWinEventlog set to false, it is still pulling the event log in
[25-Jul-2007 07:20:11] <inktechsupport> is this a bug or am I missing an option somewhere?
[25-Jul-2007 07:20:28] <iscream> r u using 2.0.3?
[25-Jul-2007 07:20:58] <inktechsupport> no, I tried 2.0.3, but it couldn't monitor anything, so downgraded back to 2.0.2 which works
[25-Jul-2007 07:21:04] <iscream> yes
[25-Jul-2007 07:21:09] <iscream> 2.0.3 is still too buggy
[25-Jul-2007 07:25:46] <inktechsupport> has anyone else ever tried to turn off the win event log? all I can find from google searches are people who can't get it to start pulling in the log, and I have the opposite problem :-)
[25-Jul-2007 07:25:48] <iscream> Merciless : i need your opinion
[25-Jul-2007 07:26:44] <Merciless> what on? =)
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:00] <iscream> Merciless : i tried to snmpwalk in a command line some of the devices which i added to zenoss, but which are /discovered, it says timeout..no response...but in the zenoss i have the info from the oid
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:01] <iscream> for example
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:14] <iscream> i wanted to snmpwalk the device with sysuptime oid
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:21] <iscream> in the commandline timeout
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:39] <iscream> but in the devices page in zenoss there it is , the sysuptime in hour,minute, etc
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:41] <Merciless> can you ping the device from the command line?
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> PING 196.168.0.128 (196.168.0.128) 56(84) bytes of data.
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.9: icmp_seq=0 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 192.168.0.5)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=1 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=4 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:22] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=5 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:24] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=7 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:26] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=10 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:28] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=16 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:30] <iscream> lol
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:32] <iscream> thats why
[25-Jul-2007 07:31:54] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 07:31:55] <iscream> strange, cause this .128 device autodiscovered the zenoss
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:04] <Merciless> it is strange yes
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:05] <Merciless> but there u go
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:08] <Merciless> u have an answer
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:10] <Merciless> congrats
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:10] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:13] <iscream> pff
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:17] <iscream> but no solution
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:25] <iscream> how is it in the zenoss i can ping it
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:31] <iscream> in the zenoss linux not
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:32] <iscream>
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:32] <Merciless> do a ping in zenoss webgui
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:34] <Merciless> and paste the output
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> ping -c2 192.168.0.128
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> PING 192.168.0.128 (192.168.0.128) 56(84) bytes of data.
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.128: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=987 ms
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.128: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=2.97 ms
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> --- 192.168.0.128 ping statistics ---
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1010ms
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:14] <iscream> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.971/495.214/987.458/492.244 ms, pipe 2
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:16] <iscream> DONE in 1 seconds on 1 targets
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:18] <iscream>
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:48] <iscream> how about that?
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:21] <Merciless> how strange
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:42] <Merciless> try restarting ur zenoss box
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:46] <iscream> just for me, just now , just to stick with this problem:)
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:53] <iscream> i restarted 3times today:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:27] <Merciless> well once more cant hurt
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:29] <Merciless> lool
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:43] <iscream> i have still the WMI com error...but its the smaller problem
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:55] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:59] <Merciless> 2.0.3 or 2
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:13] <iscream> i want to get out info-s from different mibs, for example printer mib, etc
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:15] <iscream> still 2.0.0
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:21] <iscream> 2.0.3 is buggy
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:23] <iscream> i tried
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:39] <Merciless> do you mean you want information from windows about the print
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:41] <Merciless> *printer
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:43] <iscream> 2.0.3 needs to be unbugged:D
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:45] <Merciless> or infomration about the printer from th eprinter
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:04] <iscream> information from the printserver
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:10] <iscream> its added as a device too
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:17] <Merciless> right
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:18] <iscream> or monitoring net traffic
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:44] <iscream> or get an alarm if the printer is out of paper;)
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:55] <iscream> naaa, the last one is just for joke
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:05] <Merciless> lol
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:09] <Merciless> you can get that
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:16] <iscream> really?:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:59] <Merciless> I think so ye
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:17] <iscream> actually i want to make a new "page" after i made a new class(other), subclass(panel), and from it new datasource, and i want to appear on the man page
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:18] <iscream> ohh
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:21] <inktechsupport> I'm trying to stop mine from alerting me when the document failed to print :-P
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:21] <iscream> your my man
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:38] <iscream> tell mee please how could i do it:D
[25-Jul-2007 07:40:25] <iscream> Merciless: dont mind really tha last sentence, it came just from my happiness, that i can do it maybe:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:41:52] <Merciless> wow you fkin confused me
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:06] <iscream> never mind:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:06] <iscream> so
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:10] <iscream> how can i do it
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:21] <iscream> when i cannot ping it from the commadn line?:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:27] <iscream> but in the zenoss i can ping it
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:48] <iscream> inktechsupport : how did you do it? the out of paper alarm?
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:50] <Merciless> i have absoltuely no idea
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:53] <Merciless> i'll just blame a bug
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:55] <Merciless> as its easier that way
[25-Jul-2007 07:44:03] <iscream> yes, easy to say
[25-Jul-2007 07:44:48] <inktechsupport> I don't get "out of paper" alarms :-) just "document failed to print" alarms from the windows print server, because they are logged in the event log, which is being pulled in by zenoss
[25-Jul-2007 07:44:49] <iscream> its a HP laserjet 4400 printserver
[25-Jul-2007 07:45:21] <iscream> ok
[25-Jul-2007 07:45:43] <iscream> so r u pulling in logs from the printserver?
[25-Jul-2007 07:45:56] <iscream> and in the logs are the document failed to print things?
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:05] <inktechsupport> yep
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:29] <inktechsupport> but I've had enough of them, I want them to stop :-)
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:37] <iscream> so if i would do that too, i go to device an zproperties and zwineventlog turn to true?:D
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:56] <inktechsupport> yep, you also have to specify a windows username and password
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:25] <iscream> and you took in the printer/laserjet class?
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:28] <iscream> the printserver
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:36] <inktechsupport> no
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:50] <iscream> so wich class is in it?
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:52] <inktechsupport> the print server is in the server/windows class, because it is a windows server
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:54] <iscream> h
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:00] <iscream> aaa
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:09] <iscream> i will have with it the same wmi comm error:S
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:24] <iscream> i wrote in the zwinuser : .\admin
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:32] <iscream> and has no pass, so empty zwinpass
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:32] <inktechsupport> you need to have SNMP Informant installed, if not already
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:39] <iscream> i have
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:48] <inktechsupport> (on the print server)
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:54] <iscream> i know, i have
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:04] <iscream> to other server/windows device
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:08] <iscream> every time VMI comm error
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:26] <iscream> first it was wmi connection,cannot connect
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:28] <inktechsupport> I only get those when the username/password is incorrect
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:39] <inktechsupport> maybe you need to have a password
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:42] <iscream> i wrote in the zwinuser and now wmi comm
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:57] <iscream> but i wrote in the admin user
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:03] <iscream> and leave blank the pass
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:12] <inktechsupport> you could try creating a user that has a password, and put that and see if it can connect then
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:33] <iscream> with it i managed once to work properly but i reinstalled the zenoss, from now on it is the problem
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:36] <inktechsupport> maybe it has to send a password and it can't connect because there is no password
[25-Jul-2007 07:51:09] <iscream> but once it was ok with this setup (i think)
[25-Jul-2007 07:51:18] <iscream> i hope cluther comes, he helped me last time
[25-Jul-2007 07:51:22] <iscream> and after that it was ok
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:03] <iscream> i can make on the windows box new users, but i know it works with the user that has admin privileges
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:31] <inktechsupport> hmm, I have discovered that the wmi changes only seem to be applied after you restart the zenoss service
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:44] <iscream> yeah
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:46] <inktechsupport> so I have finally stopped my event logs
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:55] <iscream> the zenwin and zenmodeller must be restarted
[25-Jul-2007 07:53:11] <iscream> it was, but the situation hasnt changed
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:09] <Darkfang> grrr
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:26] <Darkfang> i still have my zenmodeler error
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> ERROR:zen.ApplyDataMap:plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device WebServ
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> Traceback (most recent call last):
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:29] <Darkfang> changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:31] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:33] <Darkfang> changed = self._createRelObject(device, objmap, rname)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:37] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 306, in _createRelObject
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:39] <Darkfang> "adding object %s to relationship %s" % (
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:41] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 45, in logChange
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:43] <Darkfang> self.logEvent(device, compname, eventClass, msg, Event.Info)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:45] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 74, in logEvent
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:47] <Darkfang> self.datacollector.dmd.ZenEventManager.sendEvent(eventDict)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:49] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/MySqlSendEvent.py", line 64, in sendEvent
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:51] <Darkfang> event = self.applyEventContext(event)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:53] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/MySqlSendEvent.py", line 169, in applyEventContext
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:55] <Darkfang> evtclass = events.lookup(evt, device)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:57] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/EventClass.py", line 157, in lookup
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:59] <Darkfang> return self.getDmdRoot("Events").getOrganizer(evt.eventClass)
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:01] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Organizer.py", line 182, in getOrganizer
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:03] <Darkfang> return self.getDmdRoot(self.dmdRootName).getObjByPath(path)
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:07] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZenModelBase.py", line 290, in getObjByPath
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:09] <Darkfang> return getObjByPath(self, path)
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:11] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Utils.py", line 206, in getObjByPath
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:13] <Darkfang> raise NotFound, name
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:15] <Darkfang> NotFound: Change
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:17] <Darkfang> it has problem only with on device
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:31] <iscream> maybe a corrupted cache?
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:46] <inktechsupport> DarkFang, are you running 2.0.3? I got that with 2.0.3 but it went away when I downgraded to 2.0.2 (but I was having it for every device)
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:04] <Darkfang> in fact i had a similar problem with 2.0.0
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:05] <iscream> look it in the $ZENHOME/var/
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:10] <iscream> if ther is any .zec
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:10] <Darkfang> i just upgraded to 2.0.3
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:14] <iscream> remove it
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:18] <Darkfang> and now i have it on every device
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:28] <Darkfang> ok
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:56] <inktechsupport> 2.0.3 seems to be causing a few people some problems
[25-Jul-2007 07:57:00] <Darkfang> not working
[25-Jul-2007 07:57:18] <Darkfang> i'll try 2.0.2 then
[25-Jul-2007 08:00:11] <iscream> 2.0.3 collects now tickets...:P
[25-Jul-2007 08:00:25] <Darkfang> ?
[25-Jul-2007 08:00:27] <inktechsupport> collects now tickets?
[25-Jul-2007 08:01:05] <iscream> bugs
[25-Jul-2007 08:01:33] <iscream> it isnt working properly
[25-Jul-2007 08:02:59] <inktechsupport> yeah, I'm going to test 2.0.4 (if/when it comes out) on a test machine before I upgrade
[25-Jul-2007 08:05:52] <iscream> jp10558 : havent u got any idea for my WMI comm error either?
[25-Jul-2007 08:08:49] <inktechsupport> iscream, I've seen a few articles on testing WMI connectivity using windows tools, have you tried anything like that?
[25-Jul-2007 08:14:18] <iscream> inktechsupport : yes i tried it, and from a different pc, i tried to connect to the windows pc with wbemtest with the adminuser/empty user/pass and acccess denied was there too
[25-Jul-2007 08:15:23] <iscream> i go on the windows target pc to the users, there is the username below it the admin role, so it must be the right username
[25-Jul-2007 08:15:42] <inktechsupport> then your problem is with wmi and not zenoss, if other computers also get access denied
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:10] <iscream> yeah ,every time i take some device in server/windows
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:12] <iscream> wmi com error
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:37] <inktechsupport> do these servers have wmi installed (silly question but I have to ask ;-))
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:46] <iscream> yep
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:49] <iscream> if i wbemtest
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:54] <iscream> ON the target windows
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:05] <iscream> it let me in without any pass or user
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:15] <iscream> i havent got on it any firewalls
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:29] <iscream> i thought maybe the firewall, but i havent got any on it
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:40] <inktechsupport> ah, are you on a domain or just a workgroup?
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[25-Jul-2007 08:18:22] <iscream> workgroup, inside network at the company
[25-Jul-2007 08:18:39] <inktechsupport> then, from the remote pc, try to log on with the username: <computername>\admin
[25-Jul-2007 08:18:41] <iscream> but its appearing not just at one PC...
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:02] <iscream> how do you mean it? sry, my english is terrible
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:06] <inktechsupport> where computername is the target computer
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:40] <iscream> simply i just type in a browser or something?
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:44] <iscream> or
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:44] <iscream> ooo
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:47] <inktechsupport> in wbemtest
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:48] <iscream> connect with remote
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:51] <iscream> yeah
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:51] <iscream> ok
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:41] <iscream> in the namespace must be i think : \\computernameorIP\root\cimv2
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:42] <iscream> right?
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:53] <inktechsupport> don't type the < > symbols though
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:56] <inktechsupport> possibly
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:02] <iscream> yeah i got it
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:03] <iscream> but
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:04] <inktechsupport> I have not used wbemtest in a while
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:06] <iscream> in the username
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:11] <iscream> i write in the adminuser
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:19] <iscream> leave blank the pass field
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:23] <iscream> and acces denied
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:09] <inktechsupport> in the username make sure it says targetcomputername\adminuser, leave the password field blank and try it
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:22] <inktechsupport> sorry it's / not \
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:27] <inktechsupport> I think
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <inktechsupport> try both :-)
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:42] <iscream> namespace (E-mail cÃme nincs megerõsÃtve) üzenete:
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:42] <iscream> nem vágom mit beszélsz.
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:44] <iscream> no
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:47] <iscream> not this:P
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:59] <iscream> in the namespace : \\computernameorIP\root\cimv2
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:05] <iscream> in the username : adminuse
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:07] <iscream> pass: empty?
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:26] <inktechsupport> in the username, put targetcomputername/adminuser
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:39] <inktechsupport> (with the correct target computer name of course)
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:50] <iscream> or ip
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:51] <iscream> i think:P
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[25-Jul-2007 08:24:52] <iscream> acces denied:S
[25-Jul-2007 08:25:30] <inktechsupport> hmm
[25-Jul-2007 08:26:42] <iscream> hmm
[25-Jul-2007 08:26:47] <iscream> maybe tomorrow cluther comes:P
[25-Jul-2007 08:26:59] <inktechsupport> on the target computer, go to Administration Tools - Computer Management
[25-Jul-2007 08:27:21] <inktechsupport> expand Services and Applications and right click WMI Control and select properties
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[25-Jul-2007 08:27:49] <inktechsupport> check the settings, particularly the security settings
[25-Jul-2007 08:27:51] <inktechsupport> :-)
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:25] <inktechsupport> I'm off to lunch
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:27] <iscream> login tab
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:34] <iscream> it says login as:
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:36] <iscream> local
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:58] <iscream> and i take a tick on the service can cooparate with the Desktop
[25-Jul-2007 08:29:02] <iscream> maybe it would be ok
[25-Jul-2007 08:29:04] <iscream> i hope
[25-Jul-2007 08:29:54] <iscream> guten apetite:D
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[25-Jul-2007 08:30:08] <iscream> still acces denied,so fk the wmi:D
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[25-Jul-2007 08:41:11] <Darkfang> ggrrrr
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:16] <Darkfang> i get back to 2.0.2
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:31] <Darkfang> and i still have a modeling bug on one device
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:40] <iscream> ehh
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:46] <iscream> this zenoss is very strange:D
[25-Jul-2007 08:43:22] <Darkfang> the weird thing is the device has the exact same config as an other one (they are mirrored)
[25-Jul-2007 08:43:27] <Darkfang> and it's working on the other one...
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[25-Jul-2007 08:51:59] <Merciless> shame theres no working version of zenoss out there
[25-Jul-2007 08:52:02] <Merciless>
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[25-Jul-2007 08:56:02] <Darkfang> find out what it was
[25-Jul-2007 08:56:19] <Darkfang> the netmask was 10.10.10.0 ?O
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:09] <jp10558> mmm What's really weird is that it seems really OS dependant
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:24] <jp10558> or something, as I've had little to no problems with 2.x on EL4
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:39] <jp10558> and only some python problems with 1.x
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:49] <jp10558> once those were fixed, they've been rock solid in my testing
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[25-Jul-2007 09:13:44] <iscream> Merciless : there are...
[25-Jul-2007 09:13:49] <iscream> ...very hidden:P
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[25-Jul-2007 09:39:12] <Merciless> rofl iscream
[25-Jul-2007 09:39:13] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 09:40:27] <iscream> i cannot believe it that im so noob...im tryin' 2 work with zenoss for 2weeks and somekind of WMI error is give me the REAL DEAL...on the negative meaning...boahh...im mad
[25-Jul-2007 09:42:00] <jp10558> iscream: are you sure you're using a valid account for the machine you want to do WMI mointoring on/
[25-Jul-2007 09:42:01] <jp10558> ?
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[25-Jul-2007 09:51:21] <iscream> yeah, i went to the control panel and there the users there was the administrator with the username which i use, and the other was guest username
[25-Jul-2007 09:51:38] <iscream> where else can i check my administrator?
[25-Jul-2007 09:55:43] <iscream> i must go now
[25-Jul-2007 09:55:45] <iscream> see ya tomorrow
[25-Jul-2007 09:55:45] <iscream> bye
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[25-Jul-2007 11:03:59] <zpertee> how much work is it to get zenoss up and running?
[25-Jul-2007 11:05:34] <jp10558> Depends
[25-Jul-2007 11:05:45] <jp10558> I found that once you know the pitfalls it's not too hard
[25-Jul-2007 11:06:14] <jp10558> I think I got ZenOSS up and running with v2.0.3 in about 25 minutes... not including download times of the stuff
[25-Jul-2007 11:06:27] <jp10558> I can help if you use EL4 derivates for the OS
[25-Jul-2007 11:07:04] <zpertee> jp10558, ok thanks
[25-Jul-2007 11:07:40] <zpertee> jp10558, how good do your linux skills have to be to get it installed?
[25-Jul-2007 11:09:02] <Merciless> using the vmware appliance none
[25-Jul-2007 11:10:00] <zpertee> Merciless, do I have to use vmware?
[25-Jul-2007 11:13:13] <Merciless> would help =)
[25-Jul-2007 11:14:35] <zpertee> Merciless, true
[25-Jul-2007 11:15:37] <Merciless> lol
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[25-Jul-2007 11:18:21] <jp10558> mmm
[25-Jul-2007 11:18:24] <jp10558> well, it depends
[25-Jul-2007 11:18:57] <jp10558> if everything works like it should, and you're not using NFS mounted home directories (IE, you have a stand alone linux server) and run as root, it's not too difficult on an EL4 machine
[25-Jul-2007 11:19:12] <inktechsupport> jp, he's gone :-)
[25-Jul-2007 11:21:31] <jp10558> oh
[25-Jul-2007 11:21:33] <jp10558> too slow then
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[25-Jul-2007 11:40:08] <zpertee> where can I find zenpacks?
[25-Jul-2007 11:44:12] <solarce> at zenpackmart
[25-Jul-2007 11:44:20] <solarce> shop smart, shop zenpackmart!
[25-Jul-2007 11:46:12] <jp10558> Not sure
[25-Jul-2007 11:46:21] <jp10558> they are supposed to be building a community site for zenpacks?
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[25-Jul-2007 12:22:48] <Feclar> Hi hopeing someone can give me a hand, installed zenoss however can not seem to get it to monitor any hosts, have tried subnet discovery (zendisc -net x.x.x.x) with no luck as well as manual addition of windows host with snmp community
[25-Jul-2007 12:24:44] <Feclar> the zenoss box can icmp ping multiple hosts from a shell so not sure why zenoss is not able to monitor any of them
[25-Jul-2007 12:28:36] <Feclar> centos5... poking around on the forums see someone mention issues with python and centoss5
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[25-Jul-2007 13:33:29] <jp10558> Feclar: I may have been the mentioning one
[25-Jul-2007 13:33:49] <jp10558> I apparently was wrong, CENTOS5 uses 2.4 not 2.5 of python like I thought, so that shouldn't be the problem
[25-Jul-2007 13:34:07] <jp10558> What windows version are you trying to monitor?
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[25-Jul-2007 14:33:31] <soloman> Hi! what is the maximum possible length of SNMP MIB? will it work: 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.100.2.1.1 ?
[25-Jul-2007 14:33:36] <soloman> in zenoss
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[25-Jul-2007 14:43:51] <pablo2> hi all, i'm having issues trying to get zenoss to work i choose a network 192.168.0.0 and tell the system to scan it and i always get 0 results
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[25-Jul-2007 15:00:29] <progma> anyone here have zenoss running in rhel4
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[25-Jul-2007 15:26:53] <Feclar> jp10558, I actually got the hosts to show up if I add them 1by1
[25-Jul-2007 15:27:15] <Feclar> Just keep getting 0 results when I try network discovery
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[25-Jul-2007 15:29:16] <Rumpkie> knock knock anybody home?
[25-Jul-2007 15:38:31] <jp10558> You might want to look at the forum. There was a bug with zendisc a few days ago
[25-Jul-2007 15:39:26] <jp10558> See: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9062#9062
[25-Jul-2007 15:39:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - zendisc in 2.0.3 not working (at community.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2007 15:41:36] <pablo2> mmm i just wrote on that post that mine also didn-'t work
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[25-Jul-2007 15:41:56] <pablo2> i have the latest version installed, can i use an older version of zendisc?
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[25-Jul-2007 16:12:34] <pablo2> can i just change the zendisc to the 2.0.0 version?
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[25-Jul-2007 16:21:05] <jp10558> I don't think so, but I really don't know
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[25-Jul-2007 16:25:44] <pablo2> i'll try anyway
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[25-Jul-2007 17:02:31] <jrohw> has anyone used the check_log nagios plugin that ships with zen?
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[25-Jul-2007 17:51:45] <killing-joke> new install works nicely. thx for the cool code. my question is ...
[25-Jul-2007 17:52:05] <killing-joke> can i team them up in master/slave/slave/slave/... combinations?
[25-Jul-2007 17:52:33] <killing-joke> can i propagate my events up a hierarchy of nodes?
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[26-Jul-2007 03:34:40] <GutterPunk> Hi, I'm running ZenOss on a Centos 5 installation. I'm trying to use the device discovery feature (nothing more than a ping sweep apparetly) but it doesn't appear to work. It finds 0 active ip's. Anyone else have this problem?
[26-Jul-2007 03:53:22] <Merciless> try pinging the server from the centoss command line
[26-Jul-2007 03:59:13] <GutterPunk> Merciless, that works
[26-Jul-2007 04:01:30] <GutterPunk> Hmm running the command manually (which I know I should have done earlier) shows "raise SystemExit(("network ... not found in dmd))"
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[26-Jul-2007 04:31:42] <CloD0> hi
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[26-Jul-2007 06:17:19] <iscream> wow
[26-Jul-2007 06:17:23] <iscream> what a stagnation:P
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[26-Jul-2007 06:42:35] <backblue> hi
[26-Jul-2007 06:43:32] <backblue> Can zenoss replace cacti? Can i make any kind of templates for zenoss? Zenoss would be good for me, because it as more things i need, but i need cacti too, and i dont want to have 2 tools!
[26-Jul-2007 06:44:47] <GutterPunk> backblue, I'm new to zenoss as well, but at first sight it doesn't appear to have the same control over how you can view the graphs. In cacti I can put all required graphs together for a quick overview
[26-Jul-2007 06:45:37] <backblue> hum...
[26-Jul-2007 06:46:26] <backblue> i'm downloading the VMware image
[26-Jul-2007 06:47:05] <backblue> i need to try it, but if does not replace cacti for me, i will mostly leave this, for another time, because now i only need the graphs stuff
[26-Jul-2007 06:47:23] <backblue> and cacti will probably be more easy to configure
[26-Jul-2007 06:48:22] <GutterPunk> backblue, then you'll stick with cacti.
[26-Jul-2007 06:50:40] <GutterPunk> Configuration is just as easy on ZenOss though, just add the address of the snmpd and it's all swell
[26-Jul-2007 06:51:31] <backblue> well, my problem it's, i never messed with snmpd
[26-Jul-2007 06:51:40] <backblue> i think that will be my problem on cacti
[26-Jul-2007 06:52:18] <GutterPunk> backblue, I use snmp on cacti too... It's probably the best way of collecting needed info
[26-Jul-2007 06:53:19] <backblue> yes, i use snmp, but never configured any snmpd
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[26-Jul-2007 08:13:15] <iscream> anybody here?:D
[26-Jul-2007 08:19:55] <iscream> Bulwinkle : are you home in Zenoss?
[26-Jul-2007 08:20:25] <Bulwinkle> i'm here
[26-Jul-2007 08:21:01] <iscream> can u help me with monitoring UPS or Printers?
[26-Jul-2007 08:21:39] <Bulwinkle> You're on your own there....
[26-Jul-2007 08:22:02] <iscream> okay
[26-Jul-2007 08:22:46] <Bulwinkle> iscream: just do snmpwalk on the devices for the oids you want to monitor and create templates for the counters.
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[26-Jul-2007 08:27:52] <iscream> i snmpwalked the device which i added before to zenoss, and it goest TimeOut:no snmp response...how is that?
[26-Jul-2007 08:28:38] <iscream> or how do i know which oid tells me the printers pagecount (for out of page alarm),or ink (out of ink alarm)
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[26-Jul-2007 08:39:40] <Bulwinkle> iscream: not everything for zenoss is out of the box... you're going to have to figure things out for yourself.
[26-Jul-2007 08:43:53] <iscream> its ok, i just asked if someone made it before, and can tell me, thats all
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[26-Jul-2007 10:10:25] <CloD0> iscream, finally found how to get partition name
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[26-Jul-2007 10:22:22] <iscream> nice:D
[26-Jul-2007 10:22:23] <iscream> grat:P
[26-Jul-2007 10:22:29] <iscream> write in the solution in the forum
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[26-Jul-2007 10:29:02] <CloD0> in fact i managed to get the zenoss id of the partition
[26-Jul-2007 10:29:08] <CloD0> so using a small sed script
[26-Jul-2007 10:29:18] <CloD0> you can have your partition name again
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[26-Jul-2007 10:45:57] <iscream> nnice:D
[26-Jul-2007 10:47:23] <CloD0> partname=`echo /${here/id} | sed -e 'sp^/-p/p' -e 's-^/Volumes_-/Volumes/-'`
[26-Jul-2007 10:47:45] <CloD0> it bugs if you have more than 1 partition with the same name
[26-Jul-2007 10:55:47] <maj> for some reason i get an event from /status/ping that the machine is up and its a critical error, and then it clears it by saying that its up again and. Only happens to one windows2k3 server
[26-Jul-2007 10:56:01] <maj> any idea whats going on?
[26-Jul-2007 10:58:14] <progma> when first installing zenoss, i get access denied for adding a mysql user - what is the default that is used, or where can i change it?
[26-Jul-2007 10:59:18] <maj> for events?
[26-Jul-2007 10:59:26] <iscream> mysql -uroot -psqlpass
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[26-Jul-2007 11:00:03] <iscream> psqlpass is ofcourse your password
[26-Jul-2007 11:01:04] <progma> iscream: yes but when i first install the rpm in redhat, then run the init script, it does a first-boot initialization where it creates the db and kicks off all the daemons
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[26-Jul-2007 11:09:31] <soloman> hi! does anybody know of this zenoss error? 2007-07-26 18:58:35 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: exceptions.TypeError: float argument required
[26-Jul-2007 11:09:31] <maj> so why does severity change for the same message from 0 to 5
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[26-Jul-2007 11:27:59] <Oliverm> lo
[26-Jul-2007 11:28:08] <Oliverm> anyone alive to answer a question about zenoss ?
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[26-Jul-2007 11:43:37] <GutterPunk> Has anyone in here installed ZenOss on Debian?
[26-Jul-2007 11:47:11] <progma> http://pastebin.ca/634644 <-- attempt on redhat el
[26-Jul-2007 11:47:11] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 634644 (at pastebin.ca)
[26-Jul-2007 11:57:21] <progma> oic, i need the mysql root password blank
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[26-Jul-2007 11:58:57] <progma> also it blows away my existing snmp conf...
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[26-Jul-2007 12:02:31] <CloD0> you can try but i also have a lot of question ^^
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[26-Jul-2007 12:08:21] <progma> ok i've got it working
[26-Jul-2007 12:08:27] <progma> how to do auto-discovery?
[26-Jul-2007 12:12:09] <progma> nm let me just read the docs/faq first
[26-Jul-2007 12:22:19] <progma> wow it is putting my syslog-ng stuff into events
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[26-Jul-2007 12:24:50] <progma> GutterPunk: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/installing-zenoss-on-debian-sarge/ hth
[26-Jul-2007 12:24:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[26-Jul-2007 12:24:58] * DaveToo wonders when 2.0.4 will be out
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:30] <solarce> when the timer goes off
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:33] <solarce> *ding* done
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:41] <DaveToo>
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:41] <junix|work> is anyone familiar with otrs2?? i am geting an error when trying to access it
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[26-Jul-2007 13:29:14] <maj> for some reason i get an event from /status/ping that the machine is up and its a critical error, and then it clears it by saying that its up again and. Only happens to one windows2k3 server. So why so does severity change for the same message from 0 to 5?
[26-Jul-2007 13:33:11] <jp10558> Do you have any device specific alert message?
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[26-Jul-2007 14:01:57] <progma> how do i get performance data collection started
[26-Jul-2007 14:02:18] <progma> it says in the faq to restart the perf collectors daemon via the about link in the gui interface
[26-Jul-2007 14:07:50] <jp10558> anyone here having issues with WMI in 2.0.3?
[26-Jul-2007 14:09:21] <jp10558> I'm getting ZenWin log entries when a windows service goes down
[26-Jul-2007 14:09:36] <jp10558> but it's not propogating up to events, alerts, or even a change on the dashboard
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[26-Jul-2007 14:24:19] <pileofparts> Hey so does anybody know when a fix is going to come out for zendisc? I have pulled the latest from SVN, tried on etch and ubuntu LTS and all had the same issues.
[26-Jul-2007 14:24:29] <progma> nm, restarted zenperfsnmp and i have nice graphs now
[26-Jul-2007 14:25:05] <progma> pileofparts: i just did my first install on rhel4 and had to run zendisc manually - what kind of issues out of curiousity
[26-Jul-2007 14:26:38] <pileofparts> Basically no matter what, it finds 0 devices.
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> zenoss@zenoss:/usr/local/zenoss/bin$ ./zendisc run --net=172.16.0.0
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '172.16.0.0'
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:starting ping cycle Thu Jul 26 13:27:12 2007
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:ping cycle complete Thu Jul 26 13:27:14 2007
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.50 seconds
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:26] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:53] <jp10558> I'm having an issue with zenactions:
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:54] <jp10558> ProgrammingError: (1146, "Table 'mysql.proc' doesn't exist")
[26-Jul-2007 14:28:55] <pileofparts> and one other major issue that I have ran into is that dmd/Networks I can't add a CIDR style address. It will only accept an ip/network address. This is a pretty serious issue for us as we would prefer not to scan our neighbors...
[26-Jul-2007 14:31:18] <soloman> hi! does anybody know of this zenoss error? 2007-07-26 18:58:35 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: exceptions.TypeError: float argument required
[26-Jul-2007 14:31:57] <maj> jp10558, what do you mean device specific alert message
[26-Jul-2007 14:32:14] <maj> it is device specific
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:03] <jp10558> I mean, you can edit what message an alert sends
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:11] <jp10558> so I was wondering (not sure if this is possible)
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:21] <jp10558> if you have a "local" message for that device or some such
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:27] <jp10558> kind of like zProperties
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:40] <jp10558> I haven't had a chance to fully look at that yet
[26-Jul-2007 14:34:16] <maj> well, i could set the severity value for such messages to 0
[26-Jul-2007 14:34:30] <maj> but i am getting 2 identical messages have different severity values
[26-Jul-2007 14:36:12] <jp10558> mmm. IDK
[26-Jul-2007 14:36:46] <jp10558> I've had some odd issues go away by restarting zenoss
[26-Jul-2007 14:36:56] <jp10558> otherwise, maybe the mailing list
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:05] <maj> tried that
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:12] <maj> restart that is
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:17] <maj> and got it posted in the forum too
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:33] <maj> we'll see maybe somebody cant hint there
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:34] <pileofparts> and the other weirdness about the zendisc is that it prints out the debug messages like so:
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:Sent 10 packets
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:morepkts=True jobqueue=0
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:incount=0 outcount=0
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:Sent 20 packets
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:44] <pileofparts> But in tcpdump I see no data going out.
[26-Jul-2007 14:42:54] <progma> pileofparts: you're using tcpdump -i <interface> icmp ?
[26-Jul-2007 14:43:10] <pileofparts> tcpdump -i eth1 -lnnnqttt not port 22 and not vrrp and not port 8080
[26-Jul-2007 14:43:34] <progma> just do "tcpdump -i eth1 icmp"
[26-Jul-2007 14:43:49] <pileofparts> Ok, I just used that to make sure that I captured everything even snnp.
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:18] <pileofparts> zenoss:~# tcpdump -i eth0 icmp
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:18] <pileofparts> tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:18] <pileofparts> listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:20] <pileofparts> Nadda
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:42] <pileofparts> My only guess is that it has something to do with zensocket but it is setuid etc...
[26-Jul-2007 14:45:00] <pileofparts> -rwsr-x--- 1 root zenoss 20865 2007-07-25 21:13 zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 14:46:49] <pileofparts> Has anybody else had issues adding networks via the webui and getting the error 'The id "<network>/<cidr>" contains characters illegal in URLs'?
[26-Jul-2007 14:57:03] <progma> pileofparts: did you leave the tcpdump open for a minute or so
[26-Jul-2007 14:57:14] <pileofparts> It is still open.
[26-Jul-2007 14:57:36] <progma> ah
[26-Jul-2007 14:58:29] <pileofparts> ran zendisc about 4 times with the window still open. Checked on the other interface just to make sure.
[26-Jul-2007 14:58:46] <pileofparts> But definitely nothing going in or out from zenoss.
[26-Jul-2007 14:59:58] <pileofparts> I had this working on 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 but 2.0.2, 2.03, and 6018 from svn have all been broken.
[26-Jul-2007 15:00:23] <pileofparts> And there are some other serious bugs that I have run into on the previous releases.
[26-Jul-2007 15:01:34] <pileofparts> I am a perl/ruby guy so the python stuff is a little different from what I am used to.
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[26-Jul-2007 15:38:08] <davetoo> hmm
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[26-Jul-2007 15:45:11] <kippi> hey
[26-Jul-2007 15:45:30] <kippi> what program do people use on there windows servers to get the snmp ?
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:05] <pileofparts> Informant
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:44] <pileofparts> kippi: here is a link http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:44] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:44] <dfp> Snow - Informer
[26-Jul-2007 15:53:33] <kippi> ah cool
[26-Jul-2007 15:57:28] <davetoo> So this is kind of a bummer: if you add a "device" with discoveryProtocol="none", you don't get an IP Address in the Network organizer.
[26-Jul-2007 15:58:02] <davetoo> But if zendisc ping-scanned that network and didn't find SNMP, you still get the IP in the Network.
[26-Jul-2007 15:58:21] <maj> for some reason i get an event from /status/ping that the machine is up and its a critical error, and then it clears it by saying that its up again and. Only happens to one windows2k3 server. So why so does severity change for the same message from 0 to 5?
[26-Jul-2007 15:58:46] <davetoo> Makes it impossible to find all systems on a subnet if they didn't respond to SNMP Interface-MIB probes.
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[26-Jul-2007 16:30:34] <pileofparts> So I may have found the fix/issue for my zendisc woes.
[26-Jul-2007 16:31:08] <pileofparts> snmp was only listening on 127.0.0.1 on the zenoss host itself.
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[26-Jul-2007 16:32:34] <davetoo> hmm
[26-Jul-2007 16:32:59] <davetoo> and zendisc doesn't try the loopback?
[26-Jul-2007 16:37:34] <pileofparts> Nope.
[26-Jul-2007 16:38:25] <pileofparts> After changing default/snmpd so it listened on all interfaces it was able to first detect itself and then one other host on the network. But after that I get the same issue.
[26-Jul-2007 16:40:29] <davetoo> Are you just trying to run --routers or the whole shebang?
[26-Jul-2007 16:40:39] <pileofparts> The hole shebang.
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:12] <pileofparts> Still get this if I run it on a specific network...
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> zenoss@zenoss:/usr/local/zenoss/bin$ ./zendisc run --net=172.16.0.0
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '172.16.0.0'
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:starting ping cycle Thu Jul 26 15:40:48 2007
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:ping cycle complete Thu Jul 26 15:40:50 2007
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:15] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.50 seconds
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:17] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[26-Jul-2007 16:43:03] <davetoo> I'm not sure if this is a prerequisite, but does your local server have any routes under the OS tab?
[26-Jul-2007 16:45:52] <pileofparts> Yes, it does. it shows the locally connected subnets and it's default route.
[26-Jul-2007 16:46:24] <pileofparts> 0.0.0.0/0 172.16.0.1 (fw1) eth1 local indirect
[26-Jul-2007 16:46:24] <pileofparts> 10.255.0.0 0.0.0.0 (None) eth0 local direct
[26-Jul-2007 16:46:24] <pileofparts> 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.0 (None) eth1 local direct
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:18] <pileofparts> Just ran this...
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:18] <pileofparts> ./zensocket --ping -- /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python /usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/zendisc.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zendisc.conf
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:28] <pileofparts> and got a Error: must be root to send icmp.
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:47] <pileofparts> -rwsr-x--- 1 root zenoss 20865 2007-07-25 21:13 zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 16:48:01] <pileofparts> Can someone tell me what permissions they have on zensocket?
[26-Jul-2007 16:50:01] <monrad> chown root:zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 16:50:01] <monrad> chmod 04750 /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 16:50:11] <monrad> as root
[26-Jul-2007 16:51:06] <pileofparts> Thank you, that is the same.
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[26-Jul-2007 17:09:33] <davetoo> zensocket should be suid-root,
[26-Jul-2007 17:09:49] <davetoo> that should have worked, I would think...
[26-Jul-2007 17:10:51] <pileofparts> Yeah, I just pulled down 6021 I will see if anything has changed. I have been using zenoss for a little while now and I am pretty familiar with it. Found some bugs and ran into some issues that forced an upgrade and really it has just completely tanked for me.
[26-Jul-2007 17:12:11] <pileofparts> Great vision for the app but it has a ways to go as I have just encountered a mass of bugs. Outside of a vmplayer instance what is the most 2.0 build and what linux distro does it run best on?
[26-Jul-2007 17:13:24] <solarce> has anyone compared zenoss to groundwork?
[26-Jul-2007 17:16:35] <solarce> I guess network world did, and zenoss is ahead by a bit
[26-Jul-2007 17:17:25] <davetoo> pileofparts: I'm not running from SVN, just the released versions.
[26-Jul-2007 17:17:39] <pileofparts> davetoo: 2.0.3?
[26-Jul-2007 17:18:01] <davetoo> I'm still at 2.0.2; seems like there are a lot of complaints on the mailing list about 2.0.3
[26-Jul-2007 17:24:34] <pileofparts> davetoo: what distro are you running it on?
[26-Jul-2007 17:27:22] <davetoo> FC5 and RHEL4U4
[26-Jul-2007 17:27:48] <davetoo> RHEL4U4x64
[26-Jul-2007 17:28:19] <pileofparts> Frustrating. me and rpm based distros don't get along.
[26-Jul-2007 17:28:41] <davetoo> I prefer source tarball
[26-Jul-2007 17:28:41] <pileofparts> Guess I will give it a shot.
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[26-Jul-2007 17:30:33] <pileofparts> I haven't used RH since 7.3. Something about paying RH rubs me the wrong way.
[26-Jul-2007 17:33:29] <jrohw> we've got 2.0.3 up on RHEL4up5 as well ... from source as well.. different mysql
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:01] <jrohw> i'm more a debian fan myself, but RH is palatable once you add apt4rpm or yum
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:05] <jrohw> but yum is dog slow
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:16] <pileofparts> jrohw: Did you upgrade from a previous version or clean install of 2.0.3?
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:22] <jrohw> 2.0.2
[26-Jul-2007 17:35:04] <jrohw> i do see zenmodeler die from time to time.. but otherwise.. I haven't run into anything
[26-Jul-2007 17:35:11] <jrohw> but we don't have very much in ours yet
[26-Jul-2007 17:37:43] <jrohw> though, if we didn't run RH for everything else, I'd probably try to get it going on ubunut
[26-Jul-2007 17:37:47] <jrohw> er ubuntu
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[26-Jul-2007 17:39:25] <pileofparts> used 6021 and load went up to 20.00 and almost killed the box before I killed the process.
[26-Jul-2007 17:39:28] <pileofparts> I don't think that I can win here.
[26-Jul-2007 17:41:25] <pileofparts> If I wanted to gut all of the zenoss installed bits just clean out /usr/local/zennoss/* and drop the events database from mysql right?
[26-Jul-2007 17:41:57] <jrohw> i believe so
[26-Jul-2007 17:42:18] <jrohw> i've only been using it a couple weeks, after I got fed up with hyperic
[26-Jul-2007 17:44:26] <pileofparts> zenoss better than hyperic?
[26-Jul-2007 17:44:59] <solarce> pileofparts: reviews seem to think so
[26-Jul-2007 17:45:20] <solarce> hyperic loses on event actions, like restarting services, etc
[26-Jul-2007 17:45:28] <jrohw> for me it has been, so far.. zenoss is simpler.. I have to do more work to get my alerts into it, but it's been reliable in dealing with the alerts
[26-Jul-2007 17:45:36] <jrohw> hyperic kept giving me false positives
[26-Jul-2007 17:46:00] <jrohw> but if you're evaluating monitoring tools, I'd recommend giving it a try.. if nothing else than to compare
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[26-Jul-2007 18:13:42] <pileofparts> Ok, installed 2.0.2 again on debian etch x64 and it seems to be working.
[26-Jul-2007 18:14:41] <pileofparts> We will see if it errors out on the other networks.
[26-Jul-2007 18:36:18] <kippi> is there a howto on seting up snmp informant as i have configured snmp on my 2003 server and snmp informant seems to be runing, but zenoss won't pick it up
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[26-Jul-2007 18:38:54] <FEON> Does Zenoss support Ipv6?
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[26-Jul-2007 18:44:28] <pileofparts> kippi: I am not a windows guy perse but Make sure that you go into the service and verify it has the community string defined and that it is listening on the appropriate interface.
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[26-Jul-2007 18:51:30] <creiht> kippi: Make sure that the windows firewall or any other type of firewall is not running
[26-Jul-2007 18:52:00] <creiht> You also might need to add the zenoss server's ips to the list of ips that can hit snmp on the box through the snmp service properties
[26-Jul-2007 18:52:24] <creiht> FEON: As far as I know it does not support IPV6 yet, but there has been a lot of chatter about it
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[26-Jul-2007 18:59:18] <bfinney> I'm getting a large number of false negatives when monitoring processes with zenoss, any recommendations?
[26-Jul-2007 19:14:03] <FEON> creiht: has the chatter given any sign of what the roadmap might be.....
[26-Jul-2007 19:16:07] <FEON> Anyone have a URL for comparing Zenoos vs Nagios? Someone has gotten managements ear that Nagios is better... I'm trying to put together a - dont do that email thanks
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:14] <nassy> FEON: i don't know of any. maybe a google search. the mailing list seems to have a number of people who post about issues monitoring windows servers
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:25] <nassy> maybe nagios is better in that area
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:28] <nassy> dunno
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:34] <nassy> i don't know
[26-Jul-2007 19:21:35] <FEON> also, it seem, people here are saying Zenoss has issues with 64-bit filesystem...any info on this ?
[26-Jul-2007 19:24:47] <nassy> FEON: i don't recal seeing any issueson the mailing list but that does not mean they are not there. check their forum and mail archives if they exist
[26-Jul-2007 19:25:17] <nassy> im' new to zenoss so you may wish to wait for info from someone more familiar with it
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[26-Jul-2007 20:00:22] <pileofparts> FEON: I use both zenoss and nagios. I have been using nagios for years and it is very good at a l3-7 active service monitor but not much for trap/syslog/event handling.
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[26-Jul-2007 20:02:14] <pileofparts> FEON: SNMP stuff works alright in nagios as well. The event handler is the missing piece of the puzzle. Ideally you will want to take events generated from traps and syslog and correlate, deduplicate, etc... with your active service checks.
[26-Jul-2007 20:03:09] <pileofparts> FEON: If zenoss works for this stuff it has much better value than just a nagios installation. My problem is that it is not working for me.
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[26-Jul-2007 21:25:35] <pileofparts> Can anybody tell me why when modelling the device I only see the http service?
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[26-Jul-2007 21:42:34] <pileofparts> Basically no matter if I us the portscan fuction or the netstat -an when a model the host I get the same entry of only http
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> So I manually enter port 22 for tcp for ssh, run the modeler again and get this DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:22
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:80
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:111
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:199
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:443
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:49] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:600
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:51] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.PortscanClient:received plugin:zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap getOids
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:53] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.PortscanClient:portscan client finished collection for lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:55] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:client for lab2 finished collecting
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:57] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing data for device lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:59] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing plugin zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap on device lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:01] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing Ip Services for device lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:03] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:removing object ssh from rel ipservices on device os
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:05] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Events:Found device=lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:07] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Events:EventClassInst=Remove
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:09] <pileofparts> connects to all the ports then deletes ssh
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[27-Jul-2007 04:48:43] <Darkfang> hi
[27-Jul-2007 04:49:46] <Darkfang> found a problem in zenoss :s
[27-Jul-2007 04:50:09] <Darkfang> it does not show all the interface of my switch although the SNMP describes all
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[27-Jul-2007 05:07:51] <Merciless> are the interfaces its not showing set to down?
[27-Jul-2007 05:08:09] <Merciless> it will prob only show current active interfaces
[27-Jul-2007 05:08:15] <Merciless> at a guess
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[27-Jul-2007 05:09:09] <Darkfang> no lots are active
[27-Jul-2007 05:09:14] <Darkfang> with server plugged on
[27-Jul-2007 05:12:43] <Merciless> ooo
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.47 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.48 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.49 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.50 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.105 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:47] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.106 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:51] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.107 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:53] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.108 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:55] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.109 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:57] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.110 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:59] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.111 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:01] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.112 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:03] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.113 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:05] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.114 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:07] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.115 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:09] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.116 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:11] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.117 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:13] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.118 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:15] <Darkfang> it stopped at index 50
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[27-Jul-2007 05:37:21] <Yal> hello
[27-Jul-2007 05:37:40] <Yal> Mind i I pop some question about zenwin?
[27-Jul-2007 05:38:19] <Yal> I run the latest version of zenoss on a ubuntu box
[27-Jul-2007 05:38:27] <Yal> works fine
[27-Jul-2007 05:38:46] <Yal> But i cannot get zenwin running
[27-Jul-2007 05:39:04] <Yal> installed python 2.4.4
[27-Jul-2007 05:39:18] <Yal> but i Get errors on all 3 tests
[27-Jul-2007 05:40:07] <Yal> The manual on zenwin is very unclear, so if somebody has it working I apreaciate all help¦Ã�
[27-Jul-2007 05:41:05] <Yal> Installing on win2003 R2 sp1 btw
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[27-Jul-2007 07:25:38] <Yal> ok found this now:
[27-Jul-2007 07:25:39] <Yal> Zenwin Ported to Linux
[27-Jul-2007 07:25:39] <Yal> Zenoss Core no longer needs to run Zenwin (the WMI Service information collector) on a Windows host. For release 2.0 we have ported WMI functionality to linux using Samba 4. As a result Zenwin will now run natively on a Linux host. The new Linux-based Zenwin is now included in the 2.0 distributions.
[27-Jul-2007 07:26:09] <Yal> I guess it means I no longer need a separated server to use this
[27-Jul-2007 07:27:33] <Yal> but where can I find info on actualy using this feature?
[27-Jul-2007 07:27:54] <Yal> google is not very helpful for me today
[27-Jul-2007 07:28:02] <adytum-bot> http://fakerake.com/2007/192/e-file-not-very-helpful/
[27-Jul-2007 07:31:28] <Yal> lol
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[27-Jul-2007 08:35:33] <jp10558> Yal: is ZenOSS pointed to Python 2.4?
[27-Jul-2007 08:35:51] <jp10558> Also, what three tests? Is the ZenWin process down?
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[27-Jul-2007 08:53:11] <Yal> jp10558 what do you mean?
[27-Jul-2007 08:53:39] <Yal> <jp10558> Yal: is ZenOSS pointed to Python 2.4?
[27-Jul-2007 08:53:39] <Yal> <jp10558> Also, what three tests? Is the ZenWin process down?
[27-Jul-2007 08:54:13] <Yal> I figured out that I no longer need a separated windows box, isthis correct?
[27-Jul-2007 08:54:33] <Yal> on the zenoss server all daemons are started correctly
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:23] <jp10558> yes
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:29] <Yal> ok
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:29] <jp10558> you only need the Zenoss 2.0.3 machine
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:33] <Yal> ok
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:42] <jp10558> so I'm not sure what you're talking about re the three tests?
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:47] <Yal> so i need python 2.4 on my linux box?
[27-Jul-2007 08:56:07] <jp10558> Yea, zenoss needs python 2.4 or 2.3
[27-Jul-2007 08:56:12] <Yal> 3 tests was from the faq where I needed the separated windows box
[27-Jul-2007 08:56:25] <Yal> letme check my python verson on the server
[27-Jul-2007 08:57:13] <Yal> Python 2.4.3 (#2, Oct 6 2006, 07:52:30)
[27-Jul-2007 08:57:13] <Yal> [GCC 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)] on linux2
[27-Jul-2007 08:57:25] <Yal> 2.4 version indeed
[27-Jul-2007 08:58:14] <Yal> when I look at the config of the zenwin daemon it has only one rule
[27-Jul-2007 08:58:34] <Yal> monitor localhost
[27-Jul-2007 08:58:39] <Yal> that's it
[27-Jul-2007 09:00:22] <Yal> I can get snmp info from the 3 windows servers
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:20] <jp10558> you want the monitor set to localhost
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:26] <jp10558> as that's where the zenwin monitor is
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:43] <Yal> so that is ok i guess?
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:45] <jp10558> you'll need to add some devices as /Server/Windows class to get WMI going
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:55] <jp10558> on those machines
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:55] <Yal> done..
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:57] <Darkfang> do I need to configure a TRAP community on my devices?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:07] <jp10558> Well, are you using 2k, XP, 2k3?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:24] <Yal> 2k3
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:33] <Yal> R2 sp1
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:36] <jp10558> Ok, have you installed the SNMP windows component?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:39] <Yal> yep
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:47] <jp10558> + the provided SNMP Informant (well, google download)?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:59] <Yal> informant yes
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:07] <jp10558> ok, now you need to go to services.msc
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:11] <jp10558> and SNMP Service
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:22] <jp10558> and.. let me look
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:26] <jp10558> there are 2 tabs
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:57] <jp10558> Under traps
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:06] <jp10558> set community to public if not already
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:20] <jp10558> and add the zenoss server as a destination
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:21] <jp10558> then
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:26] <jp10558> security tab
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:28] <jp10558> uncheck
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:35] <jp10558> send authentication trap
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:44] <jp10558> set accepted community name to public
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:55] <jp10558> and set accept SNMP packets to the ZenOSS server also
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:00] <jp10558> then apply, and ok out
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:10] <jp10558> then, go to
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:32] <jp10558> the zenoss web console
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:38] <jp10558> and on the left, under classes
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[27-Jul-2007 09:07:40] <jp10558> go to devices
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:43] <jp10558> click server
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:45] <jp10558> click windows
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:04] <jp10558> click on the zProperties tab
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:08] <jp10558> and scroll way down
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:24] <jp10558> set zWinPassword and zWinUser
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[27-Jul-2007 09:08:39] <jp10558> to some Domain admin credentials. In zWinUser, use Domain\User
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:41] <Yal> is domain admin ok or should it be local?
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:46] <Yal> ah domain ok
[27-Jul-2007 09:09:03] <jp10558> then save all of that, go back to the device in the web console
[27-Jul-2007 09:09:16] <jp10558> and click on the little blue dropdown on the left of the device
[27-Jul-2007 09:09:41] <jp10558> go to manage -> model device
[27-Jul-2007 09:10:07] <jp10558> and wait a little while, maybe 5 minutes and you ought to see some events + windows services listeed
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[27-Jul-2007 09:10:26] <jp10558> 10 mintues and you should start seeing perf graphs
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:00] <Yal> ok lets check
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:03] <Yal> <jp10558> uncheck
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:03] <Yal> <jp10558> send authentication trap
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:12] <Yal> this was the only thing I changed for now
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:19] <Yal> rest was like you told me
[27-Jul-2007 09:13:56] <jp10558> ok, so you already had allowed the zenoss machine name in the Accept SNMP packets area?
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:18] <Yal> yes
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:23] <Yal> I get this error now
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:24] <Yal> wmi connection failed: User credentials cannot be used for local connections
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:27] <Yal> it is new
[27-Jul-2007 09:15:10] <jp10558> local connections? Mmm, never seen that before
[27-Jul-2007 09:16:51] <Yal> found the problem on a forum as well, no sollution tough
[27-Jul-2007 09:17:17] <Yal> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2676&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=062603681138ce39b95347b96cd57eb5
[27-Jul-2007 09:17:17] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - zenwin and WMI problems in 2.0.2 (at community.zenoss.com)
[27-Jul-2007 09:22:23] <Yal> trying another box
[27-Jul-2007 09:22:29] <Yal> cresh and clean
[27-Jul-2007 09:22:44] <Yal> Fresh
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[27-Jul-2007 09:28:58] <jp10558> mmm
[27-Jul-2007 09:29:46] <jp10558> good luck
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:03] <jp10558> I might recommend trying on an EL4 dedicated box, or EL5 if you feel lucky
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:23] <jp10558> I had good luck with EL4 and the dependicies they provided
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:28] <Yal> what is EL4
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:39] <jp10558> EL5 has been a PITA to get going, but now is ok (with small errors)
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:49] <Yal> I meanth trying antother windows box
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:52] <jp10558> Oh, a derivative of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:53] <jp10558> oh
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:13] <jp10558> yea, try a different windows machine also
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:15] <jp10558> one thing
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:26] <jp10558> make sure the zWinUser is defined as
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:30] <jp10558> domain\username
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:37] <Yal> it is
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:38] <jp10558> and not some other method
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:44] <jp10558> oh, ok
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:46] <jp10558> good luck
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:52] <Yal> tnx for you help
[27-Jul-2007 09:32:37] <Yal> It seems taht only event's and services won't work
[27-Jul-2007 09:32:45] <Yal> I heve the software inventory
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[27-Jul-2007 09:41:10] <progma> i have it running on rhel4
[27-Jul-2007 09:44:10] <progma> one caveat is if you already have mysql installed and have other mysql db that require dependencies from things like php-mysql, you may run into problems like i did upgrading to mysql 5.0.22
[27-Jul-2007 09:44:32] <Yal> you use the "wmi thing" ?
[27-Jul-2007 09:44:36] <progma> better to do it with a fresh install on a dedicated box
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:14] <progma> nope, i don't have any windows here
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:25] <Yal> I used a clean ubuntu box and followed the ubuntu install guide on the zensite
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:36] <Yal> I have only win
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:51] <Yal> zenoss is the first linux here
[27-Jul-2007 09:46:15] <Yal> I guess i'l hav to digg a bit deeper
[27-Jul-2007 09:46:43] <jp10558> Right I can't get EL4 to work with other database uses, but EL5 uses the standard MySQL
[27-Jul-2007 09:46:50] <jp10558> however we did run into other issues
[27-Jul-2007 09:47:03] <jp10558> mostly resolved now, except for one zenAction error
[27-Jul-2007 09:54:16] <Yal> Hmm I found my services
[27-Jul-2007 09:54:22] <Yal> monitored False
[27-Jul-2007 09:54:33] <Yal> maybe this is the issue
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[27-Jul-2007 09:55:19] <Yal> how to enable
[27-Jul-2007 09:55:40] <Yal> duh
[27-Jul-2007 09:55:44] <Yal> found it
[27-Jul-2007 09:57:20] <Yal> now this is cool
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[27-Jul-2007 10:04:08] <Yal> bye guys
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[27-Jul-2007 10:13:15] <Darkfang> can you change how long RRD keeps the data?
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[27-Jul-2007 12:03:50] <cumelot> hi, i need to use an external mysql db ,how do i set the username and passwd of the db in zenoss to connect?
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[27-Jul-2007 13:35:43] <monrad> anyone seen "87.72.201.74 sendto error __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (1 given)"
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[27-Jul-2007 13:50:10] <Lxy> I'm having a problem with zenoss and snmp-informant, can anyone help me?
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[27-Jul-2007 15:38:03] <pileofparts> I have an issue with zenmodeler on debian etch x64 on zenoss 2.0.2. When running the modeler it only detects http. I have tried both the netstat -an and the portscan method both with the same results.
[27-Jul-2007 15:38:32] <pileofparts> Has anybody else experienced this and more importantly is there a fix/workaround other than manually adding all the IP services?
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:20] <pileofparts> When running I get output similar to this:
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:using zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap on lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.DbConnectionPool:Creating a new connection; Pool size: 0
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.DbConnectionPool:Returned a connection; Pool size: 1
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:portscan collection device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:28] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.PortscanClient:sending queries for plugin zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:30] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:22
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:32] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:80
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:34] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:111
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:36] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:199
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:38] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:443
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:42] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:600
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:44] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.PortscanClient:received plugin:zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap getOids
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:46] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.PortscanClient:portscan client finished collection for lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:48] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:client for lab2 finished collecting
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:50] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing data for device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:52] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing plugin zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap on device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:54] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing Ip Services for device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:56] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:no change detected
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:58] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:scan time: 4.08 seconds
[27-Jul-2007 15:40:00] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:stopping...
[27-Jul-2007 16:03:24] <pileofparts> Anybody alive in here today?
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[27-Jul-2007 18:27:22] <davetoo> oops
[27-Jul-2007 18:27:46] <davetoo> PyObject_Malloc: assertion 'bp != ((void*0)' failed
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[27-Jul-2007 19:53:03] <eurowerke> hello
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[27-Jul-2007 19:56:01] <eurowerke> hello jczarnecki
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[27-Jul-2007 20:20:32] <eurowerke> I am me
[27-Jul-2007 20:20:41] <eurowerke> you talk
[27-Jul-2007 20:20:43] <eurowerke>
[27-Jul-2007 20:20:48] <eurowerke> yep
[27-Jul-2007 20:21:42] <jimmzee> jim
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:16] <bmu3r> wow
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:22] <bmu3r> can anyone see this
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:23] <bmu3r> d0h
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:38] <jimmzee> Hello
[27-Jul-2007 20:24:51] <bmu3r> i think my firewall is b0rked
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[27-Jul-2007 20:40:30] <eurowerke_> anyone see this
[27-Jul-2007 20:40:30] <eurowerke_> ?
[27-Jul-2007 20:41:14] <eurowerke> hello?
[27-Jul-2007 20:41:18] <eurowerke> grrr
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[29-Jul-2007 11:57:12] <x03> hi
[29-Jul-2007 11:57:23] <x03> my ./install.sh return this: make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[29-Jul-2007 11:57:52] <x03> someone know how to fix this ?
[29-Jul-2007 11:59:29] <x03> (i have python-dev allready installed)
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[30-Jul-2007 03:04:33] <Darkfang> hi
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[30-Jul-2007 06:09:10] <Darkfang> i need help
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:19] <Darkfang> i've written a script to ping devices
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:24] <Darkfang> it works perfectly in sheel
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:28] <Darkfang> shell*
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:50] <Darkfang> but when i put it in zenoss, I get a "command not found" error
[30-Jul-2007 06:10:01] <Darkfang> altough the script requires no PATH variable
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[30-Jul-2007 06:36:51] <Machnus> Hi! I'm currently testing zenoss (VMWare image, 2.0.3) and I'm having some trouble with the auto discovery function. When running zendisc run --net=10.9.9.0, nothing appears on the network interface of the host. Manually pinging works fine. Is this a common problem with an easy solution?
[30-Jul-2007 06:37:19] <Machnus> INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.41 seconds
[30-Jul-2007 06:37:20] <Machnus> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
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[30-Jul-2007 08:19:03] <jp10558> Machnus: I believe zendisc is bugged in 2.0.3
[30-Jul-2007 08:19:08] <jp10558> it's not going to work
[30-Jul-2007 08:19:22] <jp10558> You'll have to wait for a patch (hopefully 2.0.4 soon??)
[30-Jul-2007 08:20:01] <Machnus> Ah
[30-Jul-2007 08:21:07] <Machnus> I read about someone having this problem in 2.0.2 also. Maybe I should test 2.0.1.
[30-Jul-2007 08:22:09] <jp10558> You could
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[30-Jul-2007 08:23:59] <Machnus> Hmm, zenping complains about not having a events.log table, which seems understandable since it's not existing...
[30-Jul-2007 08:24:22] <Machnus> Is there an SQL schema file to source somewhere?
[30-Jul-2007 08:29:45] <jp10558> not that I know of
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[30-Jul-2007 09:05:18] <Bulwinkle> hi there cluther
[30-Jul-2007 09:06:01] <cluther> Good morning, Bulwinkle.
[30-Jul-2007 09:06:39] <Bulwinkle> How are things going in your world?
[30-Jul-2007 09:07:17] <jp10558> Anyone know how to "uninstall" the winexe service from a server 2003 machine cleanly (or should I just do a service remove as normal)?
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[30-Jul-2007 09:11:15] <cluther> Bulwinkle: 500mph..
[30-Jul-2007 09:12:23] <cluther> jp10558: A service remove should be clean. It is only making use of existing files on the system.
[30-Jul-2007 09:13:45] <jp10558> Ok
[30-Jul-2007 09:13:47] <jp10558> thanks
[30-Jul-2007 09:14:42] <jp10558> seems to work now
[30-Jul-2007 09:15:35] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I've gone through your instructions in that Zenpack tutorial to no avail....
[30-Jul-2007 09:17:59] <cluther> Bulwinkle: hmm.. I've done it like that many times before.
[30-Jul-2007 09:18:42] <Bulwinkle> cluther: have you had a look at the posting I made in the forums?
[30-Jul-2007 09:19:20] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Yeah.. all interfaces are getting set to unknown type?
[30-Jul-2007 09:19:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yep.... think I could have fatfingered something?
[30-Jul-2007 09:20:10] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Not sure.. mind if I take a look?
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[30-Jul-2007 09:22:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: not at all
[30-Jul-2007 09:22:35] <Bulwinkle> cluther: has your IP changed?
[30-Jul-2007 09:22:54] <cluther> nope
[30-Jul-2007 09:23:17] <Bulwinkle> you should be able to SSH in and 8080.... you need the IP again?
[30-Jul-2007 09:24:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I still have the info, but it looks like the root password was changed.
[30-Jul-2007 09:26:06] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do you know where I can find Zenoss packages for SuSE?
[30-Jul-2007 09:27:16] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Eric Newton was working on getting one built for OpenSuSE 10.2 last week.
[30-Jul-2007 09:27:30] <Bulwinkle> awesome!
[30-Jul-2007 09:27:40] <Bulwinkle> just what I am looking for
[30-Jul-2007 09:28:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I think he eventually got it working too..
[30-Jul-2007 09:28:34] <cluther> Bulwinkle: If you'd like to test it, it can be found at http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-2.0.3-0.sles102.i586.rpm
[30-Jul-2007 09:29:37] <Bulwinkle> cluther: what are the chances for getting a 64 bit package Man I'm pretty picky aren't I
[30-Jul-2007 09:31:11] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Anytime soon, probably little chance. It is on the list though.
[30-Jul-2007 09:32:47] <DaveToo> wow, life in #zenoss
[30-Jul-2007 09:33:10] <DaveToo> Never seems to happen when I'm at work and sign on looking for help
[30-Jul-2007 09:35:16] <Bulwinkle> DaveToo: sometimes you can get lucky
[30-Jul-2007 09:35:17] <jp10558> I don't know about that
[30-Jul-2007 09:35:31] <jp10558> I've gotten great help during work hours before on #zenoss
[30-Jul-2007 09:36:59] * DaveToo is on California time
[30-Jul-2007 09:37:46] <cluther> Californians love Zenoss..
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:02] <cluther> I haven't seen you around in a while, Dave.
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:08] <cluther> How're things going?
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:31] <DaveToo> Busy
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:43] <DaveToo> Too many different projects
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:51] <cluther> That can be a drain.
[30-Jul-2007 09:39:22] <DaveToo> Too many #1 priorities
[30-Jul-2007 09:40:21] <DaveToo> I've been spending some time now and then trying to create UML diagrams for Zenoss in Visio
[30-Jul-2007 09:40:29] <DaveToo> mostly the ZenModel classes
[30-Jul-2007 09:40:41] <jp10558> I'm from New York - some of us east coasters like it too.
[30-Jul-2007 09:43:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any idea when the next Zenoss course will be?
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:38] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I fixed up the map. The problem was you were setting the type again after it had already been set.
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:50] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You can see the differences in CiscoInterfaceMap.py.diff
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:54] <Bulwinkle> cool
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:56] <Bulwinkle> thanks!
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:26] <Bulwinkle> cluther: saw you applied the map already... now I just need to go in and change the templates right?
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:29] <Merciless> heeey cluther hows it going
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:32] <cluther> Bulwinkle: yeah.
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:40] <cluther> Going well, Merciless.
[30-Jul-2007 09:50:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Thanks.... I'll ring you again after I screw that up
[30-Jul-2007 09:51:29] <Darkfang> It seems i found a bug in zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap... Some ports of my switch don't appear in zenoss although I can see them doing snmpwalk
[30-Jul-2007 09:52:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I don't have a date for the next class yet. If you want, I'll let you know once I do.
[30-Jul-2007 09:53:19] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I finally have two servers for production and I'll need to get some training to deploy them. My boss wants them to be located in two different places for disaster recovery and I'm not sure how to keep them both in sync without having them fighting each other.
[30-Jul-2007 09:55:10] <cluther> If the sole purpose of have two different locations is disaster recovery, I'd suggest leaving one off and simply sending the daily backup from the active zenoss to it. That way if there is a disaster you can simply restore the backup onto the backup hardware.
[30-Jul-2007 09:56:08] <Bulwinkle> Not a bad idea....
[30-Jul-2007 09:56:56] <Merciless> *wonders when new version will be released with working WMI*
[30-Jul-2007 09:57:21] <jp10558> WMI working now Merciless
[30-Jul-2007 09:57:22] <Bulwinkle> I've not had a WMI problem since going to 2.x
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[30-Jul-2007 09:58:50] <DaveToo> When's 2.0.4?
[30-Jul-2007 09:59:03] <jp10558> How does the daily backup work with Zenoss? Now that we're doing production, it's probably a good idea to work out something better than just rsync the entire mysql directory
[30-Jul-2007 10:00:11] <cluther> jp10558: It backs up the ZEO and MySQL databases and all of the RRD files.
[30-Jul-2007 10:01:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: is it a cron type of job we can run?
[30-Jul-2007 10:02:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It is. In fact the RPM installs it into /etc/cron.daily/zenoss
[30-Jul-2007 10:02:21] <Bulwinkle> cool... I'll have to look at it
[30-Jul-2007 10:04:34] <jp10558> ahh
[30-Jul-2007 10:04:39] <jp10558> where does it stick the backup files?
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[30-Jul-2007 10:04:54] <cluther> By default, $ZENHOME/backup
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:01] <cluther> or maybe it's backups
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:03] <jp10558> that's awesome, good to know
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:15] <DaveToo> cluther I could have sworn Mark Irlandez sent me a UML diagram months ago, but I can't find it
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:46] <Bulwinkle> does anyone have any suggested books that I can get to learn python?
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:46] <cluther> DaveToo: I've never seen a UML, but the zendocs command will actually generate some EpyDoc.
[30-Jul-2007 10:06:37] <cluther> Bulwinkle: http://diveintopython.org/
[30-Jul-2007 10:06:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Dive Into Python (at diveintopython.org)
[30-Jul-2007 10:06:45] <DaveToo> I'll look into that
[30-Jul-2007 10:08:13] <DaveToo> I've been trying to figure out how to deal with (i.e. find) "devices" that don't have IpInterfaces
[30-Jul-2007 10:08:18] <DaveToo> i.e. only a ManageIP
[30-Jul-2007 10:08:53] <DaveToo> I just discovered/realized that zendisc does an extra step that ZDeviceLoader does not
[30-Jul-2007 10:10:23] <DaveToo> zendisc adds IP addresses to the Networks for every ping reply it gets, regardless of whether the thing answered the SNMP probes or not.
[30-Jul-2007 10:12:16] <Darkfang> is there anyway to have statistical thresholds in zenoss? for example have an event if ping gets highet than 110% of its average value?
[30-Jul-2007 10:12:24] <Darkfang> higher$
[30-Jul-2007 10:15:54] <DaveToo> By default zenoss doesn't measure ping reponse time.
[30-Jul-2007 10:16:22] <DaveToo> I think I saw an RRDTemplate + script somewhere that did that, though.
[30-Jul-2007 10:17:13] <Darkfang> i added one
[30-Jul-2007 10:17:57] <Darkfang> i'm on mac os X so it's no big deal to get the ping time
[30-Jul-2007 10:18:04] <DaveToo> oh, you mean a dynamic, self-adjusting threshold?
[30-Jul-2007 10:18:10] <Darkfang> yes
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[30-Jul-2007 10:21:24] <DaveToo> One would have to figure out how to make use of RRDTool's Holt-Winters abberant behavior detection
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[30-Jul-2007 10:21:50] <Darkfang> oO
[30-Jul-2007 10:22:50] <jp10558> Hmmm, so wait, is it difficult to measure ping / snmp response time with Zenoss?
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:05] <jp10558> That's something we'd like to do if possible
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:07] <DaveToo> It's not recorded.
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:26] <Darkfang> what system are you using?
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:54] <jp10558> EL5
[30-Jul-2007 10:24:00] <jp10558> is that what you mean?
[30-Jul-2007 10:25:55] <Darkfang> so Red hat you mean?
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:36] <DaveToo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=250&highlight=graph+ping
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Graphing ping times (at community.zenoss.com)
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:42] <jp10558> Well, Scientific Linux 5, which is a red hat
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:46] <jp10558> derivitave
[30-Jul-2007 10:28:44] <Darkfang> look at your private conv
[30-Jul-2007 10:29:00] <Darkfang> I have dozens of own scripts for dirrents monitorings ^^
[30-Jul-2007 10:34:14] <kippi> I know I have asked this question before, but whats the best snmp windows client?
[30-Jul-2007 10:38:20] <jp10558> how does that all work? What I wondered is does it then run with the modeler?
[30-Jul-2007 10:38:25] <jp10558> and create a graph?
[30-Jul-2007 10:38:37] <jp10558> is it something we can add in zProperties for the machiens/groups that should have it vs all
[30-Jul-2007 10:40:54] <Darkfang> you mean my script?
[30-Jul-2007 10:40:59] <jp10558> yea
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:05] <Darkfang> add a template to your device or class
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:08] <jp10558> or just trying to understand what people are doing for add ons
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:24] <jp10558> Maybe build these things into ZenPacks?]
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:29] <jp10558> or is that overkill?
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:45] <jp10558> Darkfang: also, did you look at that post linked by DaveToo?
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:03] <jp10558> Are Nagios plugins an easy way to extend 2.x?
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:25] <Darkfang> yep
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:29] <Darkfang> i'm using a lot of them
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:46] <Darkfang> i never used zenpacks
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:06] <jp10558> Are you using an EL based OS? I'm just wondering if there are any "gotchas"
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:29] <Darkfang> i'm using mac OS X on most of my computers
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:33] <Darkfang> except a couple of linux
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:36] <Darkfang> with debian
[30-Jul-2007 10:45:20] <jp10558> Which OS are you running ZenOSS on?
[30-Jul-2007 10:46:48] <Darkfang> Mac OS X
[30-Jul-2007 10:47:12] <jp10558> Wow. Must have been fun to get running
[30-Jul-2007 10:48:31] <Darkfang> really easy in fact
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[30-Jul-2007 10:49:14] <Darkfang> the main problem is most collector plugins are not compliant with OS X, so i had to rewrite most of them using shell commands
[30-Jul-2007 10:49:32] <jp10558> I see
[30-Jul-2007 10:49:50] <jp10558> Were you able to use the relevant docs on the Zenoss site for using Nagios Plugins?
[30-Jul-2007 10:50:46] <Darkfang> just call the command using --help option
[30-Jul-2007 10:50:51] <Darkfang> it's quite easy to understand
[30-Jul-2007 10:52:30] <jp10558> Ok.
[30-Jul-2007 10:53:05] <jp10558> One more question, to basically anyone: how hard is it to move devices from SNMP to Ping monitoring + back? Does just changing the device class work?
[30-Jul-2007 11:00:19] <Darkfang> DaveToo,One would have to figure out how to make use of RRDTool's Holt-Winters abberant behavior detection > Ever head of someone doing this?
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[30-Jul-2007 11:20:01] <kippi> can you get zenoss to scan your network for your active IP address?
[30-Jul-2007 11:25:15] <jp10558> I assume that is what ZenDisc is for, except that it doesn't seem to work in 2.0.3
[30-Jul-2007 11:27:03] <kippi> will ZenDisc also pickup pings?
[30-Jul-2007 11:27:14] <kippi> not all of our severs have snmp enabled yet
[30-Jul-2007 11:28:13] <Darkfang> cluther, is there any plan to add holt-winters forecastin support as it is already implemented by RRD?
[30-Jul-2007 11:28:40] <DaveToo> I don't think zendisc will add them to be monitored unless they respond to snmp
[30-Jul-2007 11:29:36] <cluther> Darkfang: It is on the roadmap, but I believe it is slated to be an Enterprise feature.
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:17] <kippi> DaveToo: well i am just getting errors at the mo, dosn't seem to like the -net park
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:33] <DaveToo> kippi: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/add-device/
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:33] <kippi> cool
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:47] <DaveToo> For ping-only devices I've used that technique
[30-Jul-2007 11:32:03] <DaveToo> kippi: what version?
[30-Jul-2007 11:32:48] <Machnus> Weee, 2.0.1 worked better with zendisc
[30-Jul-2007 11:32:56] <Darkfang> cluther, ok :s
[30-Jul-2007 11:33:18] <DaveToo> 2.0.3 zendisc seems to be broken
[30-Jul-2007 11:33:28] <kippi> yeah, runing 2.0.3
[30-Jul-2007 11:34:43] <Machnus> jp10558: oh, I stumbled over the schema btw - Products/ZenEvents/db/ holds two sql-files.
[30-Jul-2007 11:35:04] <kippi> she I have found Discover Devices, does this use zendisc?
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:10] <DaveToo> Essentially, yes, I think so
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:16] <kippi> damm
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:31] <DaveToo> ${ZENOME}/bin/zendisc is a wrapper around the same stuff
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:43] <DaveToo> I'd back down to 2.0.2
[30-Jul-2007 11:37:41] <kippi> ah, seem to be using Zenoss 2.0.0
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:01] <Machnus> I read about 2.0.2 having the same problems in a comment on a forum, so I backed down to 2.0.1.
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:19] <progma> i installed 2.0.2, i manually ran zendisc via cmd line
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:20] <Machnus> (only one comment though)
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:32] <progma> the networks -> auto-discovery didn't seem to work
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:52] <kippi> thats what i seem to have with 2.0.0
[30-Jul-2007 11:40:12] <progma> er yah, networks -> discover devices
[30-Jul-2007 11:40:49] <kippi> damm!!!!
[30-Jul-2007 11:40:50] <progma> how do i add a mib to a device?
[30-Jul-2007 11:42:36] <progma> i have a temp sensor with an ethernet port that responds to two mibs for two temps; zenoss discovered the device but how do i tell it to monitor (and hopefully graph?) those temps
[30-Jul-2007 11:43:19] <jp10558> Check the pdf manual, it tells you how to add MIBs
[30-Jul-2007 11:43:59] <jp10558> It also goes into the graphs a bit
[30-Jul-2007 11:44:07] <progma> ok
[30-Jul-2007 11:44:51] <DaveToo> progma: what brand?
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:02] <progma> DaveToo: sensatronics
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:03] <jp10558> see page 87 WRT MIBS
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:26] <progma> jp10558: ok thx; i hate going through an entire manual to not find what i'm looking for
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:52] <jp10558> page 104 starts talking about performance monitoring
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:02] <jp10558> and I think it describes some of the graph setup in the next 10 pages
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:09] <DaveToo> AFAICT, the stuff about actual MIBs is only for traps
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:31] <jp10558> yea, I think I read you can't use it for monitoring yet...
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:34] <DaveToo> Loading MIBs doesn't help you for performance monitoring; you need to specify the numeric OID
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:42] <DaveToo> plus index
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:57] <jp10558> I have no idea how you do that
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:00] <progma> yes, i have specific oid
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:02] <jp10558> would likely be useful though
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:40] <DaveToo> progma we have Uptime Devices SensorHubs, which have temp and humidity probes
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:44] <progma> wait, so i can't set a threshold value then alert if it's > than that?
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:55] <DaveToo> the problem is that you can put the probes in either jack,
[30-Jul-2007 11:48:13] <progma> i.e. i snmp poll the sensatronics, and if the resulting temp val is >30'C for example, then i get an email
[30-Jul-2007 11:48:31] <DaveToo> so the index is not reliable; I had to write a perl script to figure out the index first and then act as a nagios plugin
[30-Jul-2007 11:48:35] <DaveToo> progma: of course you can
[30-Jul-2007 11:49:08] <progma> DaveToo: Uptime Devices SensorHubs <- is that a device class
[30-Jul-2007 11:49:24] <DaveToo> brand of environment monitors
[30-Jul-2007 11:49:28] <progma> ohh
[30-Jul-2007 11:50:40] <progma> what about alerting on syslog-ng events - i see they were automagically directed into zenoss event console
[30-Jul-2007 11:51:41] <DaveToo> I haven't played with zensyslog yet
[30-Jul-2007 11:52:33] <progma> this may well be teh Holy Grail of netmon
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:21] <DaveToo> I've been favorably impressed
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:36] <DaveToo> but they could work on making it a little easier to do performance tuning
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:43] <progma> so do i want to work more from an snmptrap or snmp mindset
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:53] <progma> i haven't worked much with traps yet
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:07] <kippi> its a lot better than hyperic, shame the discover devices isn't working
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:30] <progma> zabbix finally brought together monitoring, alerting and graphing
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:43] <DaveToo> good question; if you poll, you get performance trend history, at the cost of workload on the zenoss server
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:48] <progma> but god it takes a gazillion years to setup an alert on disk space and such
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:08] <DaveToo> as far as I can tell, you basically need enough RAM to keep all of the RRD files in cache
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:11] <progma> kippi: have you tried cmd line zendisc, that's what i had to do
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:41] <progma> seems like some mysql tuning would help
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:55] <kippi> if I do run zendisc run -net=10.6.0.0 it errors saying it can't find -n
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:04] <DaveToo> The problem with zendisc is that you end up with all of your devices in /Discovered
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:11] <DaveToo> kippi try two dashes
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:14] <DaveToo> --net
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:20] <progma> yah and you have to go back and reassign
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:27] <progma> which is ok with a few servers
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:41] <DaveToo> But not with the 10,000 I have over all five of my zenoss systems
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:46] <kippi> rather do that than add them in
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:06] <DaveToo> which is why I wrote my own discovery stuff,
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:12] <DaveToo> using nmap, perl, snmpget, etc
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:19] <DaveToo> my own sorting criteria
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:20] <progma> also zabbix has a custom agent, but you have to use it rather than using snmpd exclusively
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:22] <kippi> runing the zendisc see what happends
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:32] <progma> kippi: it takes a while
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:43] <Darkfang> is it possible to have a threshold based on another data point?
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:53] <progma> kippi: make sure all your devices have snmp listening
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:10] <kippi> progma: can you do it with ping as well?
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:21] <progma> i think it tries ping then snmp
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:24] <progma> not sure
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:28] <kippi> its says its seen 6 active ips
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:33] <progma> i just set this up last week
[30-Jul-2007 11:59:14] <DaveToo> First you should do a zendisc --routers
[30-Jul-2007 12:30:13] <Darkfang> anyone know what it the ds-name in rrdtool?
[30-Jul-2007 12:35:44] <Machnus> I'm reading the Zenoss Admin guide now, but it seems to be written for an older version. I'm reading 3.2 Modeling devices without using SNMP, but can't find "Collect Configuration" in 2.0.1?
[30-Jul-2007 12:36:17] <Machnus> "Push Changes"?
[30-Jul-2007 12:41:20] <DaveToo> In version two some of the commands are "hidden" in the little down-triangles in the upper left
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[30-Jul-2007 12:41:57] <Machnus> DaveToo: yeah, I "Manage" there, but no "Collect Configuration" under Manage.
[30-Jul-2007 12:42:18] <Machnus> "Model Device" maybe?
[30-Jul-2007 12:42:39] <Machnus> Yup, that's better
[30-Jul-2007 12:42:57] <jp10558> Yea, 2.0 guide is somewhat wrong in places
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:13] <jp10558> for instance the part where they say you need a separate ZenWin machine... you don't for 2.x
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:13] <DaveToo> yes
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:17] <DaveToo> model device
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:35] <Machnus> The rain stopped here, I'm off on a walk
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[30-Jul-2007 12:47:43] <ToeNad> I don't seem to be getting e-mail notifications, the test works fine though. Do I need to have a schedule for notifications to function?
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[30-Jul-2007 12:49:34] <jp10558> no
[30-Jul-2007 12:49:46] <jp10558> ToeNad: did you set up an alerting rule
[30-Jul-2007 12:49:54] <jp10558> under a created local account?
[30-Jul-2007 12:50:22] <ToeNad> I set it up under the admin account
[30-Jul-2007 12:52:24] <jp10558> the admin account that ZenOss comes with
[30-Jul-2007 12:52:29] <jp10558> doesn't send alerts as far as I know
[30-Jul-2007 12:52:48] <jp10558> I think that's either a bug or a way to get people to not use the default account for security
[30-Jul-2007 12:53:09] <jp10558> make a different account, elevate to admin level (manager IIRC) and then log in with that
[30-Jul-2007 12:53:16] <jp10558> set up the alerting rule there
[30-Jul-2007 12:55:42] <ToeNad> true enough, that worked. Thanks for the assist.
[30-Jul-2007 12:57:22] <jp10558> glad to help
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[30-Jul-2007 13:21:23] <ToeNad> exit
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[30-Jul-2007 14:46:52] <microchp> Question: I already have MySQL 5.0.44 from centosplus repo, but zenoss is complaining about not having 5.0.22 or greater. What is the zenoss rpm lookin for?
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[30-Jul-2007 14:52:55] <tty01> would anyone know why changes to a type of graph doesnt show at all?
[30-Jul-2007 14:58:05] <microchp> disregard last question, just used nodeps for now
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[30-Jul-2007 14:59:20] <progma> microchp: you do need mysql server 5.0.22 or greater - i had to also install zenoss rpm with nodeps but i still upgraded to 5.0.45 (since i couldn't keep my old php-mysql junk) - something about a mysql feature zenoss uses that is not avail in < 5.0.22
[30-Jul-2007 15:00:49] <progma> microchp: oh sorry i didn't see the 5.0.44 reference ; yah i have rhel4 here and installed 5.0.45 from a custom french repo
[30-Jul-2007 15:01:02] <Machnus> Hm, I think I'm stuck again. As I understand it one can monitor services, for example port 22 for SSH. And I can add new services without a problem, but how do tell Zenoss which IPs to monitor? And what is a "service key"?
[30-Jul-2007 15:01:11] <progma> microchp: so you should be ok actually
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[30-Jul-2007 15:02:46] <jp10558> If you're installing ZenOSS from RPM on EL4.x
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:02] <jp10558> you basically have to use the zenoss-deps RPM of MySQL Server and Client IME
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:08] <jp10558> or, you can use EL5
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:14] <jp10558> which just works
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:51] <progma> yah but if you have other mysql db that use older mysql addons it turns to hell, so you might as well recommend people installing on a clean server with nothing on it
[30-Jul-2007 15:04:19] <progma> let me guess, it's in the docs somewhere
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:13] <jp10558> Yea, I had a few days of PAIN getting ZenOSS installed on the same machine as GLPI + OCSNG
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:24] <jp10558> ended up upgrading to SL5
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:31] <progma> yah sounds similar to here
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:42] <jp10558> and even then had to muck around, and still not entirely sure why zenoss suddenly decided to install and work
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:58] <progma> i was a bit leary of moving to rhel5, as i've only got my workstation and my users' laptops on 5
[30-Jul-2007 15:06:23] <jp10558> Hey - anyone monitoring disk I/O with ZenOSS Linux RAID and Windows environement?
[30-Jul-2007 15:06:24] <jp10558> s
[30-Jul-2007 15:06:33] <jp10558> or does everyone use Nagios plugins for that?
[30-Jul-2007 15:07:17] <microchp> progma, thanks. it looks ok.
[30-Jul-2007 15:07:17] <progma> jp10558: not yet here, i haven't had much time to customize yet, but i've still got cacti graphing that stuff via snmp
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[30-Jul-2007 15:17:53] <jp10558> Mmm, I'm looking at check_nfs4
[30-Jul-2007 15:18:45] <jp10558> this looks odd as it seems to want check_rpc to load check_nfs4 in their docs? I'm not sure if this will work with Zenoss or not
[30-Jul-2007 15:18:48] <jp10558> any ideas
[30-Jul-2007 15:19:53] <jp10558> Mmm, will Zenoss need the NRPE plugin (Network Remote Plugin Executor)?
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[30-Jul-2007 15:28:22] <kickfliph> hi
[30-Jul-2007 15:28:26] <kickfliph> every one
[30-Jul-2007 15:29:14] <kickfliph> how a can get zenoss work if mysql its not in localhost
[30-Jul-2007 15:29:26] <kickfliph> ?
[30-Jul-2007 15:31:45] <kickfliph> alguien ?
[30-Jul-2007 15:31:50] <kickfliph> some one ?
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[30-Jul-2007 18:19:01] <Rumpkie> hello, anybody home?
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[30-Jul-2007 18:29:32] <Rumpkie> can somebody help me get Zenoss running...
[30-Jul-2007 18:37:07] * Rumpkie pokes the usergroup
[30-Jul-2007 18:39:01] <Rumpkie> 40 people in the room and nobody around... that has to be some kind of record
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[30-Jul-2007 22:38:20] <junix659> are there any pacakges for Debian Stable (ETch)
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[31-Jul-2007 01:59:31] <Darkfang> hi
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[31-Jul-2007 03:07:20] <moath> is there a way to add an IP service to a system group or class?
[31-Jul-2007 03:11:33] <Darkfang> I looked but didn't find anything so i'm using perf templates
[31-Jul-2007 03:11:43] <Darkfang> with no datapoints
[31-Jul-2007 03:16:23] <Darkfang> anyway to debug graph commands?
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[31-Jul-2007 03:40:29] * Darkfang needs some help with custom graphs
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[31-Jul-2007 04:03:06] <kippi> hey
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[31-Jul-2007 04:06:19] <kippi> zenoss is seeing some devices when using zendisc rin --net=10.6.0.0 but the devices are not running snmp, is this why its not adding them?
[31-Jul-2007 04:12:49] <moath> i ran into an issue with zendisc not discovering any devices with zenoss 2.0.3
[31-Jul-2007 04:12:57] <moath> downgraded to 2.0.2 and it went away
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[31-Jul-2007 04:15:25] <kippi> its werid as it pings
[31-Jul-2007 04:16:30] <kippi> but dosn't add, is there a away to turn off snmp
[31-Jul-2007 04:16:55] <moath> not sure
[31-Jul-2007 04:16:59] <moath> i just installed today
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[31-Jul-2007 04:33:05] <Machnus> Does anyone here have a pointer to documentation about gathering performance data from commands? I haven't the slightest clue how to separate the values in output from check_disk for example.
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[31-Jul-2007 04:39:05] <Darkfang> is it possible to use thales expression in graph custom commands?
[31-Jul-2007 04:42:37] <Machnus> http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/developer-guidelines.html#AEN202 <--- is zenoss automatically refering to the value after the label in the RRD Format field?
[31-Jul-2007 04:44:38] <Darkfang> yep
[31-Jul-2007 04:44:49] <Machnus> Ah, thanks
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[31-Jul-2007 05:49:00] <kippi> zenoss is seeing some devices when using zendisc rin --net=10.6.0.0 but the devices are not running snmp, is this why its not adding them?
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[31-Jul-2007 06:33:08] <tcom> anyone know if zenoss2 can do disk monitoring out of the box? or is this an addon that you purchase
[31-Jul-2007 06:34:37] <bzed> tcom: disk space is monitored automatically via snmp
[31-Jul-2007 06:35:01] <bzed> tcom: and if you want to monitor smart values, have a look into the nagios plugins, probably write one by yourself if you need to
[31-Jul-2007 06:35:21] <bzed> but I guess you could even add that to snmp - not sure, I'm no snmp geek
[31-Jul-2007 06:36:03] <tcom> Z2 seems to cripple alot of the features that 'just worked' on Z1
[31-Jul-2007 06:36:17] <tcom> Thanks bzed
[31-Jul-2007 06:38:58] <tcom> Also, where would be the best place in Z2 to document unplanned maintenance? Like replacing parts etc. I used to use the comments in Nagios for this
[31-Jul-2007 06:46:23] <bzed> you can schedule maintenance times somewhere
[31-Jul-2007 06:47:02] <bzed> not sure where, I'm still working more on the packaging of zenoss into a debian package then with zenoss
[31-Jul-2007 06:49:23] <tcom> cheers. seems like such an obvious feature.
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[31-Jul-2007 08:55:19] <Darkfang> when modifying zenoss sources, is there a simple way to "see" them than restarting zenoss ?
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[31-Jul-2007 09:42:02] <jp10558> Is there a way to get Zenoss to show what machine is connected to a switch port?
[31-Jul-2007 09:43:33] * Darkfang is going crazy
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[31-Jul-2007 10:23:14] <creiht> cluther: Do you know what versions of snmp are supported for snmptraps?
[31-Jul-2007 10:23:36] <cluther> 1 or 2
[31-Jul-2007 10:23:40] <creiht> cool thanks
[31-Jul-2007 10:24:07] <creiht> A cowerker is trying to get snmptrap sending working from log4j
[31-Jul-2007 10:24:44] <cluther> Hmm.. never thought of that. Most people are just using the log4j syslog appender.
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:08] <bnafziger> cluther, thanks
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:24] <cluther> bnafziger: Morning, bnafziger!
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:50] <cluther> Thanks for relaying that story about the t-shirt. Always interesting to see how the word spreads.
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:56] <bnafziger> heh
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:59] <creiht> cluther: Well the snmptrap appender isn't exactly user friendly
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[31-Jul-2007 10:29:24] <cluther> creiht: The syslog appender has the added benefit of allowing you to get severity (priority) information without doing event mapping.
[31-Jul-2007 10:29:41] <cluther> creiht: traps have no standard of severity.
[31-Jul-2007 10:30:11] <creiht> Yeah I know.... Unfortunately I made the mistake of installing zenoss on our syslog server
[31-Jul-2007 10:30:36] <creiht> so Zenoss' syslog has to run on a nonstandard port
[31-Jul-2007 10:31:04] <creiht> And as far as we can tell (at least without some extreme hacking) it is not easy to make the syslog appender send to a non-default port
[31-Jul-2007 10:31:34] <creiht> One of these days when I have time, I'm going to get Zenoss on its own box
[31-Jul-2007 10:31:54] <cluther> creiht: True. Is your syslog server not running syslog-ng or something that can forward the logs?
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:14] <progma> i have zenoss on my central syslog-ng server
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:17] <creiht> cluther: Can you forward only specific logs
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:37] <cluther> creiht: With syslog-ng, yes.
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:40] <creiht> Well we process something like 500GB a week
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:42] <progma> upon install zenoss redirected syslog-ng into its event console
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:44] <creiht> of logs
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:52] <cluther> creiht: You use a filter and add it to your destination definition.
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:53] <creiht> err 50Gb
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:58] <Darkfang> i definitly hate python
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:08] <creiht> hrmm
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:20] <creiht> I may have to look into that... someone else set up the syslog server
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:47] <cluther> creiht: You need to make sure that your syslog-ng has spoofing support compiled in. Otherwise Zenoss is going to think all syslog messages are coming from localhost.
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:55] <creiht> hehe
[31-Jul-2007 10:35:00] <creiht> cluther: Thanks for the tips
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[31-Jul-2007 10:36:17] <creiht> Now I just need more hours in a day
[31-Jul-2007 10:47:50] * Darkfang has holt-winter detection early working
[31-Jul-2007 10:47:54] <Darkfang> nearly*
[31-Jul-2007 10:48:16] <cluther> Darkfang: Wow.. just for graphing, or thresholding too?
[31-Jul-2007 10:49:34] <Darkfang> graphin is really easy
[31-Jul-2007 10:49:44] <Darkfang> just have to use the good RRA parameters
[31-Jul-2007 10:49:53] <Darkfang> but thresholding should work in a few minutes
[31-Jul-2007 10:50:12] <Darkfang> it's not a really "clean" job because i had never code anything in python before today
[31-Jul-2007 10:50:21] <Darkfang> but it should be working
[31-Jul-2007 10:52:31] <Darkfang> my biggest problem for a clean work is I couldn't find how to get pointer on the devices, performance monitor from the ThresholdManager
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[31-Jul-2007 11:08:20] <Darkfang> it's working !! \o\ \o/ /o/
[31-Jul-2007 11:08:55] <kickfliph> not mine :S
[31-Jul-2007 11:09:11] <Darkfang> got dynamic thresholds
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[31-Jul-2007 11:18:46] <jp10558> Is there a way to get Zenoss to show what machine is connected to a switch port?
[31-Jul-2007 11:19:28] <Darkfang> maybe if you can configure snmpd on your routeur
[31-Jul-2007 11:21:18] <jp10558> Well, to expand, we're getting this information from Net Disco now - but it uses CDP, and now our switches are doing LLDP I believe
[31-Jul-2007 11:21:40] <jp10558> I was wondering if there is a way to do some/all of this inside of Zenoss, or if anyone is looking to add these capibilities?
[31-Jul-2007 11:22:28] <Darkfang> can't tell you
[31-Jul-2007 11:24:09] <progma> how do i do a manual remodel
[31-Jul-2007 11:25:04] <progma> after i add processes
[31-Jul-2007 11:27:07] <jp10558> click on the dropdown for the device
[31-Jul-2007 11:27:17] <progma> ah
[31-Jul-2007 11:27:19] <progma> thanks
[31-Jul-2007 11:29:18] <Darkfang> cluther, when creating normal RRA do you use special option so the older it is the less point you keep?
[31-Jul-2007 11:29:52] <cluther> yeah
[31-Jul-2007 11:31:03] <Darkfang> can i find it somewhere? i'dl like to do the same with my own RRA
[31-Jul-2007 11:34:46] <Darkfang> found it
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:01] <cluther> Then I suppose the answer is yes, you can.
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:02] <jp10558> I'm looking at trying to monitor NFS RAID machines disk I/O performance. I know I can get the network performance from the default ethernet port templates, but any idea how to grab the Disk I/O from an EL4.5 machine?
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:28] <jp10558> I did see a Nagios plugin called: check_nfs4 4.0.2
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:47] <jp10558> but I'm at a loss getting it to work. Just trying the command line gave all sorts of perl errors (as it's a .pl file)
[31-Jul-2007 11:36:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: since I'm getting ready to install my new server should there be any problems taking the existing backup I have and restoring it to the new server?
[31-Jul-2007 11:37:04] <cluther> Bulwinkle: As long as you'll be using the same version of Zenoss it'll be fine.
[31-Jul-2007 11:37:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: cool... what are your feelings about using an external mysql server? Will it hurt performance?
[31-Jul-2007 11:40:18] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Not at all.. unless it is a latent link.
[31-Jul-2007 11:41:21] <cluther> cluther: MySQL usually ends up RAM or disk IO bound, the network is rarely the bottleneck. By this logic, you'd more likely be gaining performance.
[31-Jul-2007 11:41:32] <progma> jp10558: nfsstat?
[31-Jul-2007 11:41:54] <Bulwinkle> cluther: 1G link on both boxes, same switch. I'm trying to move all of my MySQL DBs to one server. Is there a good way to get the syslogs going to ZenOSS over to syslog-ng?
[31-Jul-2007 11:43:19] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You'd want to do it the other way. Send your syslogs to syslog-ng, then from there to Zenoss.
[31-Jul-2007 11:43:40] <Bulwinkle> cluther: can they live happily together on the same box?
[31-Jul-2007 11:43:58] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Absolutely. Run NG on the standard 514/udp port, and Zenoss on something else.
[31-Jul-2007 11:44:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther: duh... sounds pretty easy
[31-Jul-2007 11:44:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: save me from using another server for syslogs
[31-Jul-2007 11:44:46] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Just make sure that your syslog-ng has spoofing support compiled in.
[31-Jul-2007 11:45:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: spoofing? I'll keep it in mind
[31-Jul-2007 11:47:07] <cluther> Bulwinkle: https://lists.balabit.hu/pipermail/syslog-ng/2004-November/006695.html
[31-Jul-2007 11:47:36] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I
[31-Jul-2007 11:47:54] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'll probably be working on it next week so I'll save that link!
[31-Jul-2007 11:48:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'll be hanging in syslog-ng a lot too by the looks of it.
[31-Jul-2007 11:49:39] <Merciless> <cluther> cluther: MySQL usually ends up RAM or disk IO bound, the network is rarely the bottleneck. By this logic, you'd more likely be gaining performance.
[31-Jul-2007 11:49:44] <Merciless> do you talk to yourself a lot cluther?
[31-Jul-2007 11:49:53] <jp10558> progma: is there a way to pass that back to Zenoss?
[31-Jul-2007 11:51:38] <cluther> Merciless: Tons.
[31-Jul-2007 11:56:31] <Darkfang> gloups ôO
[31-Jul-2007 11:56:40] <Darkfang> I'm gonne have over 2Gb of rrd files
[31-Jul-2007 11:58:07] <progma> jp10558: not sure; i know that's one way of diagnosing nfs - maybe you can edit your snmpd.conf to allow execution of that command? i do this with zabbix - in the agent you can put whatever shell code you want and basically i pipe the output of a command prtdiag into grep and awk to get the number i want
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[31-Jul-2007 12:03:15] <Darkfang> cluther, how can you get the device name in the filesystem template?
[31-Jul-2007 12:03:31] <jp10558> Hmm, does Zenoss have something like Winexe for linux machines?
[31-Jul-2007 12:03:42] <jp10558> I'm assuming it's SSH based monitoring related
[31-Jul-2007 12:04:11] <jp10558> I think we're looking for something like a supported nfswatch though
[31-Jul-2007 12:05:26] <cluther> Darkfang: ${here/device/id} should work
[31-Jul-2007 12:05:34] <Darkfang> ok thanks
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[31-Jul-2007 12:09:02] <bzed> jp10558: why would anybody want to have something weird like dcom if there's ssh, nagios/zenoss plugins and snmp
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[31-Jul-2007 12:09:19] <bzed> more than enough ways to monitor anything without the need for something broken like dcom
[31-Jul-2007 12:09:50] <cluther> jp10558: Zenoss does use winexe.. it actually comes bundled with it.
[31-Jul-2007 12:10:24] <Darkfang> device has not id attribute :s
[31-Jul-2007 12:10:51] <cluther> Darkfang: hmm... ok, then drop the /id.
[31-Jul-2007 12:11:12] <Darkfang> ok ^^
[31-Jul-2007 12:11:41] <Darkfang> is there a list of all available tales expressions somewhere? The one from the admin guide is... short ^^
[31-Jul-2007 12:14:00] <jp10558> I think I was unclear, I meant that I understand how to run commands on a windows machine with Winexe
[31-Jul-2007 12:14:10] <jp10558> how would I do the same to a Linux target device?
[31-Jul-2007 12:16:14] <cluther> jp10558: Setup public key authentication. Then put something like this in the command..
[31-Jul-2007 12:17:08] <cluther> jp10558: ssh ${dev/zCommandUsername}@${dev/manageIp} 'command'
[31-Jul-2007 12:17:42] <jp10558> I see
[31-Jul-2007 12:20:22] <jp10558> so I get the feeling there's no easy way to do disk I/O monitoring right now
[31-Jul-2007 12:28:53] <progma> wait, one question i have about zenoss is whether i have to use traps or will zenoss actively query other snmpd
[31-Jul-2007 12:35:31] <Darkfang> is it a matter if i remove all the perf directory ?
[31-Jul-2007 12:37:42] <progma> does that make sense? like in cacti the data source is the snmp oid, then cacti polls snmpd on remote hosts with that oid, receives the value and stores it
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[31-Jul-2007 12:49:54] <progma> or is this how i'm gonna get hooked into buying zenpacks
[31-Jul-2007 12:54:37] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any word on ldap authentication?
[31-Jul-2007 12:55:16] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It works, you just need to install the python-ldap libraries. Then the LDAPUserFolder and LDAPMultiPlugins Zope products.
[31-Jul-2007 12:55:40] <Bulwinkle> cluther: are those things we need to pay for?
[31-Jul-2007 12:56:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Nope
[31-Jul-2007 12:56:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: would it be possible to use kerberos yet?
[31-Jul-2007 12:57:43] <Darkfang> cluther, what happens if I change the RRA creation command for a datapoint? Is it OK or do I have to delete it so it'll create a new one?
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:19] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Never tried it, but there is a Zope product for it: http://www.zope.org/Members/mstrickl/KerberosUserFolder
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:25] <cluther> Darkfang: It will continue using the current RRD file with the old settings until you delete it.
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:29] <Darkfang> ok
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:42] <Darkfang> thanks
[31-Jul-2007 13:04:43] <Bulwinkle> cluther: so it looks like I only need that KerberosUserFolder plugin... I'll check it out and let you know
[31-Jul-2007 13:07:09] <jp10558> Bulwinkle: and then it would let you authenticate on the Zenoss screen with your kerberos login?
[31-Jul-2007 13:07:23] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: looks like it
[31-Jul-2007 13:07:43] <Bulwinkle> I know little about ZenOSS and even LESS about Zope so my chances here are probably not good
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[31-Jul-2007 13:10:41] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you got a link to install those products?
[31-Jul-2007 13:11:20] <cluther> Afraid not. The LDAPUserFolder and LDAPMultiPlugins have good READMEs associated with them.
[31-Jul-2007 13:11:30] <cluther> They can give you an idea of how to install a product into Zope
[31-Jul-2007 13:14:38] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when they talk about the Product folder are they talking about the one under $ZENHOME?
[31-Jul-2007 13:15:10] <moath> Is there a way I can bulk scan (portmap, etc.) a class of machines?
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:02] <cluther> moath: zenmodeler run --path=/Server/Windows --collect=portscan.IpServiceMap
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:04] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Yes
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:12] <moath> cluther: sweet!
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:15] <moath> cluther: thanks
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[31-Jul-2007 13:22:05] <moath> cluther: also, how would I add an IP service like SSH or HTTP to a class?
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:10] <cluther> moath: You don't add services (IP or Windows) to a class in the same way you would do for a template or zProperty.
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:38] <moath> ahh, so i'd add the template to a group?
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:39] <cluther> moath: IP services are defined globally with a default "Monitor" status. You can then override the monitor flag on a per-device basis.
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:53] <moath> interesting
[31-Jul-2007 13:28:50] <moath> so what's the best way to enable monitoring of an IP service for a group (by location or whaever)
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:03] <progma> moath: well i'm running into the same thing
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:12] <progma> moath: looks like you go into classes -> services
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:15] <progma> then there's a huge list
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:23] <moath> yea
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:28] <progma> right now i'm filtering on privileged ports
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:40] <progma> i just clicked on ssh and set Monitor from False to True
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:48] <moath> ahh
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:51] <progma> and it does already see all my servers that have that service already
[31-Jul-2007 13:30:20] <progma> next step is alerting someone if it goes down...
[31-Jul-2007 13:31:09] <progma> i'm still confused about processes though
[31-Jul-2007 13:31:25] <progma> i am still unable to force a manual "remodel" to have zenoss query my devices for the new processes i added
[31-Jul-2007 13:31:59] <progma> can i just restart a zen daemon somewhere
[31-Jul-2007 13:32:11] <monrad> is it possible to make a zenpack to monitor cpus and temperatures on foundry routers (they depend on which boards are in the router)
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[31-Jul-2007 13:48:54] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm supposed to restart Zope, how do I do that?
[31-Jul-2007 13:49:12] <cluther> Bulwinkle: As the zenoss user: zopectl restart
[31-Jul-2007 13:49:51] <Bulwinkle> cluther: hrm, still isn't finding the KerberosUserFolder I put under $ZENHOME/Products
[31-Jul-2007 13:50:33] <cluther> Bulwinkle: There's likely a problem compiling it in that case. You can potentially look into $ZENHOME/log/events.log to see if Zope logged anything about trying to load it.
[31-Jul-2007 13:55:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: ah found the problem... built kypass but didn't install (duh)....
[31-Jul-2007 13:56:32] <Bulwinkle> cluther: now it wants me to add this as a Normal User Folder... what the heck does that mean?
[31-Jul-2007 13:57:21] <cluther> Bulwinkle: heh.. go to /zport/manage/acl_users and screw around. I'll be offline for a bit.
[31-Jul-2007 14:00:12] <jp10558> Bulwinkle: if you figure this out, would you be so kind as to write up a quick and dirty HOWTO and post to the wiki (is there one?) or mailing list?
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[31-Jul-2007 14:23:31] <kickfliph> hey some one can help me please
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[31-Jul-2007 14:32:56] <jp10558> kickfliph: what's the problem?
[31-Jul-2007 14:34:07] <kickfliph> eeehh jp10558 i think it's solve
[31-Jul-2007 14:34:44] <kickfliph> some lib that it's not was instaled
[31-Jul-2007 14:34:46] <kickfliph>
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[31-Jul-2007 14:47:56] <moath> cluther: i tried that scan command but it didn't find any snmp or portscan plugins for the class i ran it on...are the portscan plugins something i apply by class?
[31-Jul-2007 14:48:14] <cluther> moath: Yes, you set them with zCollectorPlugins
[31-Jul-2007 14:49:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: there must be something wrong with that authentication product. It won't let me paste it
[31-Jul-2007 14:51:17] <jp10558> moath: what does the portscan plugin do? Or, why would someone want to use a portscan plugin?
[31-Jul-2007 14:52:53] <moath> jp10558: it should help it auto-discover the services running on a machine
[31-Jul-2007 14:53:42] <jp10558> Mmm, so far the SNMP scan done gets me IP services, and WMI get's me windows services
[31-Jul-2007 14:57:13] <progma> jp10558: what gets you process monitoring
[31-Jul-2007 15:01:47] <jp10558> nothing, I was wondering regarding that. I can's see how portscans would get me process monitoring though
[31-Jul-2007 15:02:31] <cluther> jp10558: The portscan.IpServiceMap plugin is useful when you don't have SNMP access to a system, or it doesn't support the TCP/UDP MIBs.
[31-Jul-2007 15:02:57] <cluther> jp10558: The snmp.IpServiceMap will typically get you much better information as it will show both TCP and UDP services, even if they're only listening on 127.0.0.1, or firewalled.
[31-Jul-2007 15:06:21] <progma> well looks like restarting the zenmodeler and/or zenprocess daemons did the trick to get process monitoring to work
[31-Jul-2007 15:24:23] <jp10558> ahh
[31-Jul-2007 15:24:27] <jp10558> thanks for the clarification cluther
[31-Jul-2007 15:24:36] <jp10558> So no generic process monitoring then
[31-Jul-2007 15:25:05] <cluther> jp10558: Process monitoring can only be done via SNMP or SSH if you're using the ZenPlugins package.
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[31-Jul-2007 15:25:37] <progma> ohh so you can add ssh functionality for things to check
[31-Jul-2007 15:25:54] <progma> i noticed you could put in actions in a shell script form to execute on certain conditions
[31-Jul-2007 15:25:59] <progma> i can't wait to get this thing fully config'd
[31-Jul-2007 15:26:14] <cluther> progma: Yup.. you can model a system and monitor it via SSH if you wanted to.
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[31-Jul-2007 15:26:31] <cluther> progma: Of course this isn't as high performance as SNMP, but it is infinitely flexible.
[31-Jul-2007 15:26:40] <progma> oh yes
[31-Jul-2007 15:26:46] <progma> snmp for the generic stuff
[31-Jul-2007 15:27:01] <progma> ssh for really customized things or long chains of unix cmd line
[31-Jul-2007 15:27:24] <cluther> progma: I like SNMP for everything in Unix. Using the pass_persist support in Net-SNMP is awesome.
[31-Jul-2007 15:27:47] <cluther> progma: If you're a Perl guy, you can grab SNMP::Persist from CPAN to make life easier.
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:07] <jp10558> So, I could use the ZenPlugins package + SNMP and it would automatically grab process info for the device if it's Linux?
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:07] <progma> i have to pipe prtdiag through grep and awk to get CPU temps, so i can do this over ssh
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:18] <jp10558> anything like it for Windows planned?
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:22] <jp10558> or available
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:24] <cluther> jp10558: SNMP *or* ZenPlugins
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:28] <cluther> jp10558: Not both.
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:34] <progma> you still need the snmpinformant thing right
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:45] <progma> i had to install that for a mixed env with nagios
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:54] <cluther> progma, jp10558: For Windows you're currently stuck with SNMP and Informant.
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:57] <jp10558> Oh. So I'd have to model the entire device via ZenPlugins to get the processes
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:18] <cluther> jp10558: This is a bit confusing actually.. it goes like this:
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:31] <cluther> jp10558: Zenoss can model a Linux system using SSH without the ZenPlugins.
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:37] <progma> jp10558: what i just did was added some important processes like cron and sshd in classes -> processes
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[31-Jul-2007 15:29:45] <cluther> jp10558: However, to MONITOR the system via SSH it needs ZenPlugins to be installed.
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:48] <progma> then either wait 6 hours or restart zenmodeler and zenprocess
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:58] <jp10558> I guess I'm wondering if there was a way to see if say, a certain program running (not a daemon/service, not exposing an IP interface)
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:07] <jp10558> If so, how many instances of that program
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:12] <zombor> is there a way to prevent/elimitate spikes in my bandwidth graphs?
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:27] <progma> jp10558: i just got that working
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:34] <cluther> zombor: Set Min/Max values on your data points.
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:44] <zombor> cluther: where can i do that?
[31-Jul-2007 15:31:06] <cluther> zombor: In each performance template there is a list of data sources. Inside each data source is a list (usually one) of data points.
[31-Jul-2007 15:31:42] * zombor looks
[31-Jul-2007 15:32:50] <progma> jp10558: i went to Classes -> Processes
[31-Jul-2007 15:32:51] <zombor> i just see "ifInErrors" as a data point for my ethernet graph
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[31-Jul-2007 15:33:23] <progma> jp10558: clicked the drop down for Processes then "Add Process", just typed in a regex like cron and saved it
[31-Jul-2007 15:33:41] <jp10558> mmm
[31-Jul-2007 15:33:48] <jp10558> I was thinking for Windows, like ntvdm
[31-Jul-2007 15:33:55] <progma> oh oh
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:08] <jp10558> Seems like there ought to be a way to do something with the winexe
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:11] <progma> snmpinformant
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:15] <jp10558> as it gets the full command line back
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:24] <cluther> jp10558: Actually, process monitoring works exactly the same on Windows as it does in Unix.
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:36] <cluther> jp10558: Even without informant.
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:38] <progma> that's hot
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:43] <jp10558> oh
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:49] <progma> cuz the free informant didn't give you much
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:51] <jp10558> so I just have to put in a process and it shows up?
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:59] <cluther> Unix and Windows both support the prTable MIB.
[31-Jul-2007 15:35:06] <jp10558> oh, wow
[31-Jul-2007 15:35:08] <cluther> jp10558: After you model the device, yes.
[31-Jul-2007 15:35:09] <jp10558> never knew it
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[31-Jul-2007 15:37:52] <cluther> Enterprise actually allows you to monitor arbitrary perf counters via DCOM which eliminates the need for Informant and gives you access to all kinds of stuff.
[31-Jul-2007 15:38:42] <jp10558> Nice - but far to expensive for my needs
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[31-Jul-2007 16:18:37] <dislo> hey guys on version 1.1 is there a way to ping through an entire network and add it to zenoss
[31-Jul-2007 16:21:08] <TheNick> I am looking for a little assistance with WMI, Cant quite get it to work
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[31-Jul-2007 16:29:06] <jp10558> TheNick
[31-Jul-2007 16:29:11] <jp10558> are you using v 2.0.3?
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[31-Jul-2007 16:32:22] <jp10558> Bulwinkle: hey! Any more luck with Kerberos plugins?
[31-Jul-2007 16:32:45] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: nope
[31-Jul-2007 16:33:55] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: and since I have no access to write to the LDAP structure, looks like I'm SOL
[31-Jul-2007 16:34:11] <jp10558> Unlucky
[31-Jul-2007 16:34:42] <jp10558> Well, I'm going to try and look at this some tomorrow but I'll need the input of my Linux guys
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:02] <jp10558> Of course, we don't even have LDAP, just kerberos auth as far as I know, so maybe this won't matter or just won't work
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:10] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: let me know if you get anywhere
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:24] <jp10558> sure
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:36] <Bulwinkle> really all I'm looking for it NT Authentication so, if you find that too I'll be interested
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:14] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You don't need to change the AD schema. However, you do need a schema master account so that you can do the appropriate lookups.
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:28] <TheNick> jp10558 - No I am on 2.0.2
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah, we don't have that
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:52] <Bulwinkle> cluther: network and domain services teams do not play well together
[31-Jul-2007 16:38:35] <Bulwinkle> on one positive note, I'm now running my laptop on 2.6.22 with CFS
[31-Jul-2007 16:38:39] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Shocker.
[31-Jul-2007 16:38:59] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah, we don't even do DNS ... we do DHCP but not DNS.... go figure
[31-Jul-2007 16:39:36] <Bulwinkle> cluther: we have $75k in DNS/DHCP appliances that are basically glorified DHCP servers
[31-Jul-2007 16:42:27] <progma> do they handle a lot of dns load
[31-Jul-2007 16:42:33] <progma> i.e. not just caching
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[31-Jul-2007 16:47:25] <pileofparts> Anybody know a simple was to get zenoss to monitor a service on an interface that is not the manage IP?
[31-Jul-2007 16:48:39] <pileofparts> In the IP Services section of the OS tab it shows "service tcp 34567 IP"
[31-Jul-2007 16:48:50] <pileofparts> IP being something that is not the manage IP.
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[31-Jul-2007 16:50:15] <dislo> hey guys on version 1.1 is there a way to ping through a subnet and add it to zenoss
[31-Jul-2007 16:56:01] <kickfliph> hi
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[31-Jul-2007 16:59:26] <pileofparts> Even though in the service description it has the right IP address to monitor it still only attempts to monitor the managed IP
[31-Jul-2007 16:59:34] <pileofparts> Anybod experience this before?
[31-Jul-2007 17:01:24] <cluther> pileofparts: Yes, unfortunately this is the only way it works. To monitor a different address, you'd need to set it up in a performance template using a COMMAND type data source. You could then use any of the Nagios plugins for specific services, or check_tcp for generic ones.
[31-Jul-2007 17:02:20] <pileofparts> That is too bad. As using the netstat -an it sees the IP and even has it listed in the service description.
[31-Jul-2007 17:02:39] <pileofparts> It wouldn't be too far off for it to acknowledge what interface the service was running on.
[31-Jul-2007 17:05:07] <kickfliph> if i dont have mysql running in localhost how can i do ?
[31-Jul-2007 17:07:02] <pileofparts> Are there any good how tos on creating the performance template?
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[31-Jul-2007 17:10:40] <agustinba> hi
[31-Jul-2007 17:11:06] <agustinba> I am having a problem with zenoss thershold, and I would like to know if someone else had that isssue.
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[31-Jul-2007 17:11:41] <agustinba> when I try to build a custom template with a value returned from an oid, that returns a number in string format
[31-Jul-2007 17:12:18] <agustinba> I cannot create the thershold , because no matter which max value I put in it, is always exceed
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[31-Jul-2007 17:59:49] <pileofparts> Anybody know where I can find a list of variables for use with commands? such as ${dev/manageIp}
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[31-Jul-2007 20:48:08] <eurowerke> hey all...
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:15] <eurowerke> can anyone see this?
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:31] <creiht> no
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:32] <creiht>
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:51] <pileofparts> Not me.
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:26] <eurowerke> ^_^
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:33] <eurowerke> I've had some probs with my firewall and IRC
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:42] <eurowerke> I *think*
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:53] <eurowerke> perhaps no one was around last time I tested, though
[31-Jul-2007 20:54:09] <eurowerke> I seem to be getting random cutouts in monitoring of my firewall
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[31-Jul-2007 20:54:24] <eurowerke> doesn't really seem to be particular intervals
[31-Jul-2007 20:55:17] <creiht> eurowerke: Does the system that is running zenoss incur high loads at that time?
[31-Jul-2007 20:56:00] <eurowerke> hrm...
[31-Jul-2007 20:56:13] <eurowerke> one sec, checking consistency of the interfaces
[31-Jul-2007 20:56:19] <eurowerke> to see if all interfaces check out at same time
[31-Jul-2007 20:58:44] <eurowerke> it cut out on one interface at about 4:30 Monday
[31-Jul-2007 20:58:52] <eurowerke> didn't come back up until about 3:30a tuesday
[31-Jul-2007 20:59:06] <eurowerke> each interface of the firewall is one vlan
[31-Jul-2007 20:59:12] <eurowerke> physical interface
[31-Jul-2007 20:59:20] <eurowerke> the other interfaces don't show the dropout
[31-Jul-2007 21:00:18] <creiht> Any possible loss of network connectivity to that device?
[31-Jul-2007 21:02:44] <KernelPanik> in my dashboard I see a computer down, but I can't clear it, although its not down anymore, any ideas anyone?
[31-Jul-2007 21:03:43] <eurowerke> wouldn't the monitor show just a baseline graph with no activity in that case?
[31-Jul-2007 21:03:47] <eurowerke> this just drops out...
[31-Jul-2007 21:04:09] <KernelPanik> anyone?
[31-Jul-2007 21:04:19] <eurowerke> it's almost a 12 hour gap
[31-Jul-2007 21:05:22] <eurowerke> no way the network would be out for that long
[31-Jul-2007 21:06:44] <eurowerke> Kernel: I had some similar situation, but I can't remember what I did to fix it ... :-/
[31-Jul-2007 21:06:53] <eurowerke> dashboard showed an event
[31-Jul-2007 21:06:58] <eurowerke> but when I went into /Events
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:00] <eurowerke> nothing showed
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:05] <eurowerke> maybe I just restarted the server...
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:06] <eurowerke> heh
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:45] <KernelPanik> maybe restarting the service might hlep, let me try
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:03] <eurowerke> no idea creiht?
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:12] <eurowerke> about my prob?
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:23] <eurowerke> http://www.brianruiz.net/images/dropout.JPG
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:41] <creiht> eurowerke: Sorry... got distracted
[31-Jul-2007 21:10:01] <creiht> Do you see any events for that time if you click on the history tab?
[31-Jul-2007 21:10:10] <creiht> for that device
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:03] <KernelPanik> ok so how do we restart zenoss service
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:13] <KernelPanik> service zenoss restart? on redhat
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:17] <eurowerke> su to zenoss user
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:24] <eurowerke> zenoss restart
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:39] <eurowerke> I assume that's same on all distros
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:46] <eurowerke> creiht: nope
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:47] <eurowerke> this was last monday
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:54] <KernelPanik> kewl, thanks
[31-Jul-2007 21:13:03] <eurowerke> it only shows history from yesterday and today
[31-Jul-2007 21:13:22] <creiht> eurowerke: You should be able to set the date filter at the top
[31-Jul-2007 21:13:34] <creiht> So you can have it show events from last monday
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:11] <eurowerke> OH!
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:17] <eurowerke> it does show same thing on other interfaces
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:25] <eurowerke> d0h duhhh
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:51] <KernelPanik> it's asking for a password when stopping, what password is that?
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:21] <eurowerke> nope
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:25] <eurowerke> no errors in history
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:28] <creiht> KernelPanik: Most likely the zenoss user password
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:41] <KernelPanik> hum....
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:42] <KernelPanik> ok
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:43] <eurowerke> only notifications of exceeding thresholds
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:18] <creiht> eurowerke: hrmm... Well I'm not sure
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:25] <creiht> Something was preventing it from getting the data
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:34] <eurowerke> although
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:36] <eurowerke> interesting
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:39] <creiht> Was the device overloaded at that point, so it didn't return the snmp data?
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:47] <eurowerke> the last error showing is a restore of under threshold level
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:56] <eurowerke> just after noon on monday
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:05] <eurowerke> next error is at 10am tues morning
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:09] <eurowerke> with a count of 39
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:15] <KernelPanik> creiht: btw, where is that password stored, is this the linux user password??
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:37] <eurowerke> Kernel: it's in the database, AFAIK
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:50] <eurowerke> or is it the same as the zope password...
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:59] <eurowerke> eh
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:04] <eurowerke> I'm a noob to this thing
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:17] <creiht> KernelPanik: Ues the linux user password, as it is probably trying to sudo to do a certain command
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:55] <eurowerke> so it does appear that data is getting logged back then suddenly exploding out
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:55] <KernelPanik> yep
[31-Jul-2007 21:19:05] <KernelPanik> I guess I never set a password for that user
[31-Jul-2007 21:19:30] <eurowerke> so that gap in time between errors spans the whole length of the outage
[31-Jul-2007 21:19:41] <eurowerke> and then some
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[31-Jul-2007 21:22:18] <eurowerke> is there some definitive way to tell if the device was overloaded?
[31-Jul-2007 21:22:26] <eurowerke> overloaded -> network, processing, ?
[31-Jul-2007 21:22:31] <eurowerke> all of the above?
[31-Jul-2007 21:22:59] <eurowerke> it *is* running on a virtual server...
[31-Jul-2007 21:25:20] <creiht> eurowerke: Look at the perf graph?
[31-Jul-2007 21:25:30] <creiht> Check the load average and memory usage
[31-Jul-2007 21:27:31] <eurowerke> those drop out too
[31-Jul-2007 21:28:44] <eurowerke> this is weird
[31-Jul-2007 21:29:05] <eurowerke> do the logs show when the server was started up/stopped?
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:15] <eurowerke> aye
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:33] <eurowerke> the logs have entries one per minute
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:44] <eurowerke> ?
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:49] <eurowerke> dang
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:32] <eurowerke> ack I better get going
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:43] <eurowerke> gotta get home a feed the dog before she starves
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:44] <eurowerke> !
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:51] <eurowerke> thanks creiht
[31-Jul-2007 21:34:02] <creiht> eurowerke: hehe... np
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[31-Jul-2007 23:13:44] <jcims> hey folks, autodiscovery appears to be hammered in 2.0.3 vmware image, true?
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:05] <solarce> ball pean or rubber mallet?
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:29] <jcims> i'd say rubber mallet
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:44] <jcims> seems to be they changed it to make it more friendly for the web interface
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:52] <jcims> but in the process broke it
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:00] <solarce> doh
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:12] <solarce> this is why I never upgrade
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:21] <jcims> it could be specific to the vmware image that they provide, i haven't tried to do a build on a full os
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:27] <jcims> er..you konw
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:30] <jcims> know even
[31-Jul-2007 23:16:05] <jcims> it's the first i've used it though, overall pretty happy with it...but the autodiscovery would make life a lot easier
[31-Jul-2007 23:16:32] <solarce> yes, snmp only goes so far anyway, I think nmap is a better tool, to bad they can't redistribute it
[31-Jul-2007 23:17:36] <jcims> is there a way to just import a list of ip addresses?
[31-Jul-2007 23:17:44] <jcims> e.g. feed from nmap?
[31-Jul-2007 23:18:10] <solarce> not directly, I think that converting nmap xml to zenoss xml will be the way to go about it
[31-Jul-2007 23:18:46] <solarce> mind you I haven't had time to do anything, my 2.0 vm sits in the corner watching my pix and nothing else :/
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:15] <solarce> I contribute by lurking and cracking jokes
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:39] <jcims> nothing wrong with that!
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:49] <jcims> is the zenoss xml fairly straightforward/
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:51] <jcims> ?
[31-Jul-2007 23:20:13] <solarce> i hope so ;-)
[31-Jul-2007 23:20:30] <solarce> me a programmer, not so much
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[31-Jul-2007 23:57:35] <redone> Question: Has anyone ever seen 'AgentProxy' object has no attribute 'walk' on a model operation?
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[01-Jul-2007 06:56:09] <bilke> hi people
[01-Jul-2007 06:56:23] <bilke> i have strange problem with zenoss 2.0.0 on freebsd 5.3
[01-Jul-2007 06:56:47] <bilke> 207.218.219.221 sendto error short format requires 0<=number<=USHRT_MAX
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[01-Jul-2007 15:51:43] <Daveyboy> hi
[01-Jul-2007 15:51:51] <Daveyboy> cannot get any graphs
[01-Jul-2007 15:52:50] <Daveyboy> plz help
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[01-Jul-2007 21:29:39] <Tazdevil> Good evening everyone
[01-Jul-2007 21:30:11] <nassy> hi
[01-Jul-2007 21:31:40] <Tazdevil> New to Zenoss but so far i have it installed now i need to learn how to set it up so I can see my network
[01-Jul-2007 21:32:46] <Tazdevil> Do you know where I can get a good tutorial for it
[01-Jul-2007 21:33:20] <Tazdevil> show me how to configure it I have 2 local servers 1 remote server and 7 clients/workstations I wiould like to mintor
[01-Jul-2007 21:33:40] <Tazdevil> ooops
[01-Jul-2007 21:33:50] <Tazdevil> mintor*monitor
[01-Jul-2007 21:37:41] <nassy> Tazdevil: sorry, i don't. i am also new. only thing i can suggest is to start with the manual and then progress to the wiki and forums
[01-Jul-2007 21:41:45] <Tazdevil> Yeah I did that but looks like i will have to wrtie a tutorial for after the install .....
[01-Jul-2007 21:42:12] <Tazdevil> Where to start and such cuz i don't have a clue where to go from here
[01-Jul-2007 21:42:32] <Tazdevil> It has a real nice interface however it does not let me know where to start
[01-Jul-2007 21:42:56] <Tazdevil> I'll Just have to tinker with it I suppose
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[02-Jul-2007 05:39:04] <jsegura> is anyone alive?
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[02-Jul-2007 06:28:28] <jsegura> i need some help because i'm so confused
[02-Jul-2007 06:28:38] <jsegura> I have a zenoss monitor in a private network, in this network I have 2 machines
[02-Jul-2007 06:30:01] <jsegura> this 2 machines are monitored correctly and one of them
[02-Jul-2007 06:30:35] <jsegura> has another interface with one server I want to monitor
[02-Jul-2007 06:31:11] <jsegura> how can I monitor this server if my "zenoss server" can't connect to this second network
[02-Jul-2007 06:31:29] <jsegura> ?
[02-Jul-2007 06:31:43] <jsegura> maybe playing with zenhub but i'm noob in zenoss
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[02-Jul-2007 08:22:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good morning!
[02-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <cluther> Same to you, Bulwinkle.
[02-Jul-2007 08:22:48] <Bulwinkle> things went from bad to worse after you left Friday...
[02-Jul-2007 08:22:55] <cluther> How s?
[02-Jul-2007 08:23:23] <Bulwinkle> I couldn't get the zenhub process to keep running but I figured out the problem
[02-Jul-2007 08:24:33] <Bulwinkle> You had me delete the zeo1-1.zec file... I solved that by deleting BOTH the zeo1-1.zec and zenhub-1.zec files and starting the services
[02-Jul-2007 08:25:04] <Bulwinkle> You may want to see if you can recreate the problem on your system
[02-Jul-2007 08:25:25] <Bulwinkle> cluther: still can't add devices though
[02-Jul-2007 08:26:40] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I'm trying to reproduce the "add devices" issue on my side by making the same changes.
[02-Jul-2007 08:27:23] <Bulwinkle> cluther: okie... let me know what you get/if you find something for me to try.
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[02-Jul-2007 09:31:26] <John> Morning/afternoon all
[02-Jul-2007 09:31:46] <t35t0r> does it inventory hardware items on a system?
[02-Jul-2007 09:32:23] <t35t0r> like ocsinventory-ng ?
[02-Jul-2007 09:32:41] <t35t0r> we need a single solution that does everything nagios + ocsinventory-ng in one
[02-Jul-2007 09:32:52] <t35t0r> and that works with pg
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[02-Jul-2007 09:37:14] <soloman> Hello. I have 2 SNMP data sources. I want to collect data and build graphs every 1 minute for the first Datasource and every one hour for the second Data source. How can I do that?
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[02-Jul-2007 09:50:24] <John> Does anyone have any experience with extending the standard data model? I want to collect info on our Novell Netware NSS volumes and there are more stats than the standard data model support
[02-Jul-2007 09:50:51] <John> I've written a new data model and I think I have the relationship in place between OS and the new filesystem model - but I'm getting some errors
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[02-Jul-2007 10:04:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any news?
[02-Jul-2007 10:04:23] <John> Hello
[02-Jul-2007 10:04:32] <John> news on what?
[02-Jul-2007 10:15:56] <Bulwinkle> John: a problem we are working on
[02-Jul-2007 10:25:04] <John> Ahhh
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[02-Jul-2007 11:05:07] <tty01> anyone know why when i do a check via snmp and i enter the correct OID.....zenoss automatically appends another number?
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[02-Jul-2007 11:06:15] <withoutend> Hello
[02-Jul-2007 11:08:31] <withoutend> I have a small problem with Python. I'm running RH7 and installed Zenoss with the package, but when it starts it complains that the Python C API version mismatches
[02-Jul-2007 11:09:09] <withoutend> err, not RH7, Fedora 7
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[02-Jul-2007 11:17:19] <withoutend> not so much?
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[02-Jul-2007 11:38:49] <jaredo> anyone know how to fix the drop down menu in the web interface so it appears ontop of the other boxes instead of behind where it is unaccessible?
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[02-Jul-2007 14:21:19] <shakeSpear> hi, does anyone know how to run 2 or more monitors with different steps (e.g. 60s + 300s) on one server?
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[02-Jul-2007 15:05:49] <bmunger> my graphs are empty, the install guide didnt mention anything for graph tools, do i need something like rrdtool?
[02-Jul-2007 15:22:04] <shakeSpear> bmunger: maybe a permission problem?
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[02-Jul-2007 15:39:31] <bmunger> how do i know shakeSpear?
[02-Jul-2007 15:39:41] <bmunger> doesnt put an error out
[02-Jul-2007 15:42:46] <shakeSpear> hmm - just a guess - the directories with the rrd-files have to be writeable for the zenoss user
[02-Jul-2007 15:45:25] <bmunger> well does the zenoss package come with rrd?
[02-Jul-2007 15:48:09] <bzed> yes
[02-Jul-2007 15:48:43] <bmunger> ok
[02-Jul-2007 15:48:56] <bmunger> just found it in the etc directory of zenhome
[02-Jul-2007 15:49:02] <bmunger> but broken images are still there
[02-Jul-2007 15:49:17] <bmunger> should i chown -R zenoss:zenoss /opt/zenoss ?
[02-Jul-2007 15:59:01] <shakeSpear> bmunger: i didn't mean the rrdtool binaries - the folder storing the rrd-databases has to be writeable
[02-Jul-2007 16:00:55] <shakeSpear> chown zenoss.zenoss could do the job I think
[02-Jul-2007 16:01:20] <shakeSpear> how are the permissions currently set?
[02-Jul-2007 16:02:44] <bzed> bmunger: afaik the rrd stuff is stored in the perf folder, which needs to be writeable by zenoss
[02-Jul-2007 16:03:33] <bmunger> i tried the chown no go
[02-Jul-2007 16:03:43] <bmunger> it did change all the permissions
[02-Jul-2007 16:04:01] <bmunger> i just removed zenoss and reinstalling because i changed the hostname after it was installed and it got kinda messed up
[02-Jul-2007 16:06:05] <bmunger> damn it it kept the data even after i took out mysql
[02-Jul-2007 16:06:45] <bzed> host data is not saved in mysql
[02-Jul-2007 16:06:55] <bzed> i guess you could have changed that in the zope dmd
[02-Jul-2007 16:07:43] <bmunger> well i removed zenoss and removed mysql
[02-Jul-2007 16:07:52] <bmunger> didn't kill the data
[02-Jul-2007 16:08:30] <bzed> not sure where the ZEO stores it's data in the default zenoss install
[02-Jul-2007 16:08:59] <bmunger> might have to reinstall the os again
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:01] <bzed> dude, you're not on windows!
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:09] <bmunger> hehe
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:13] <bmunger> i know
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:24] <bmunger> loosk like it didnt kill the /opt/zenoss directory when rpm removed
[02-Jul-2007 16:12:28] <bmunger> so i killed that directory
[02-Jul-2007 16:15:09] <bmunger> that didnt do it
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[02-Jul-2007 16:15:39] <bmunger> startover time
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[02-Jul-2007 16:44:27] <Driador> afternoon all... can anyone point me to a link on the site (or tell me) what o/s platforms zenoss enterprise is supported on?
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:33] <bzed> should work on all recent linux versions
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:43] <Driador> what about FreeBSD?
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:50] <bzed> and there're people who managed to install it on *BSD< too
[02-Jul-2007 16:46:55] <Driador> k
[02-Jul-2007 16:47:05] <bzed> but that seems to need some manual fixes
[02-Jul-2007 16:47:17] <Driador> just wanted to make sure it's an officially supported platform if we look for support
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[02-Jul-2007 16:56:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you around?
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[02-Jul-2007 17:27:32] <chowmeined> I have all these events coming up about localhost.localdomain.. how can i get rid of them?
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[02-Jul-2007 17:32:12] <chowmeined> There is this one error in the logs: CRITICAL zen.ZenPing 'localhost.localdomain' not found, ignoring network topology.
[02-Jul-2007 17:32:52] <bzed> sounds like you wanna add localhost.localdomain to /etc/hosts
[02-Jul-2007 17:32:56] <bzed> for 127.0.0.1
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:22] <chowmeined> can i just.. not monitor it?
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:25] <chowmeined> and just monitor localhost
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:32] <bzed> you wanna monitor it.
[02-Jul-2007 17:33:53] <chowmeined> ok
[02-Jul-2007 17:35:08] <chowmeined> but they were still in there before
[02-Jul-2007 17:35:36] <chowmeined> they all say: localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure .. same error but with zenmodeler and zenping and zenactions
[02-Jul-2007 17:36:23] <chowmeined> can i tell it not to track hostnames? because it is doing a reverse dns lookup and getting different dns names so errors for those keep accumulating
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[02-Jul-2007 17:43:02] <markl_> is this an appropriate place for a newb question? I installed zenoss but i don't have a users option under the management tab. is that bad, or is the PDF just out of date?
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[02-Jul-2007 18:55:11] <scrip> hello, is anyone in here NOT afk?
[02-Jul-2007 18:55:38] <chowmeined> im not
[02-Jul-2007 18:55:43] <scrip> awesome!
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:01] <chowmeined> i still cant figure out why the vmachine is broken
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:02] <chowmeined> but oh well
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:18] <scrip> do you know of a way to assign a device name when its added? I can add a device by IP and the name is then set to the name it gives via SNMP
[02-Jul-2007 18:56:37] <scrip> I can then change it, but this causes problems maintaining the system
[02-Jul-2007 18:59:11] <scrip> why is your vm machine broken?
[02-Jul-2007 18:59:43] <chowmeined> its listing like 20 errors
[02-Jul-2007 18:59:45] <chowmeined> but nothing is wrong
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:03] <scrip> uh... would you mind explaining those last two statements?
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:14] <chowmeined> there are 20 events listed
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:20] <chowmeined> a bunch of
[02-Jul-2007 19:00:41] <chowmeined> localhost.localdomain zentrap heartbeat failure localhost.localdomain zensyslog heartbeat failurelocalhost.localdomain zenwinmodeler heartbeat failure
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:07] <scrip> ah, I thought you meant the vm machine itself was having trouble
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:10] <chowmeined> plus theres a bunch of other workstations being listed
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:17] <chowmeined> i hate auto discovery
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:25] <chowmeined> 99% of the computers i _dont_ want to monitor
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:30] <scrip> can't help you, check that all the daemons are running? check their log files, turn up verbosity if that doesn't help
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:36] <chowmeined> nothing is wrong
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:42] <chowmeined> its just spewing errors
[02-Jul-2007 19:01:55] <scrip> those are internal zenoss problems, I think
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:12] <chowmeined> well i cant use it like this.. thats too many false positives
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:41] <chowmeined> oh well
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:42] <scrip> the _NON_ paid support is gonna kill zenoss I think, I'm trying to set it up at my work now, but I can never get any information out of any of the devs on the forums or here until more than a week after posting
[02-Jul-2007 19:02:58] <chowmeined> maybe ill go try opennms
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:02] <scrip> and theres no way I'm gonna convince my boss to spend money on this if I can't even make it work
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:10] <chowmeined> yea, i wont be able to either
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:18] <chowmeined> i mean once i get it set up.. they would buy a support contract
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:26] <scrip> but those errors should be easy to fix, have you looked at the log files?
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:32] <chowmeined> yes
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:39] <chowmeined> theres only some warnings in there
[02-Jul-2007 19:03:53] <chowmeined> but it shouldnt have these.. this is just the vmachine i downloaded off the site
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:05] <scrip> yeah, true
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:07] <chowmeined> it should be all setup perfectly.. they made it..
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:15] <scrip> are you running 2.0? I went back to 1.2 because it ran better
[02-Jul-2007 19:04:40] <chowmeined> yea 2.0
[02-Jul-2007 19:05:01] <scrip> hm, I had weird problems with 2.0, though I wasn't able to track them down either
[02-Jul-2007 19:05:57] <chowmeined> 2007-07-02 15:58:14 CRITICAL zen.ZenPing: ZenPing 'dev2203' not found,ignoring network topology.
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:21] <chowmeined> i turned off auto discovery.. and i only have 1 device added.. where the heck are these other things coming from?
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:30] <chowmeined> i wonder if they update opennms...
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:34] <chowmeined> have you tried it?
[02-Jul-2007 19:06:45] <chowmeined> updated*
[02-Jul-2007 19:07:10] <chowmeined> their channel actually has people in it too
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:01] <scrip> I looked at opennms, but it was missing features I needed
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:06] <scrip> I think it was alerting
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:18] <chowmeined> well the windows support wasnt as integrated
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:22] <chowmeined> and we have a ton of windows machines.. so
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:38] <scrip> but yeah, zenoss is the only really good open source project I could find for what I'm doing and their documentation is horrible
[02-Jul-2007 19:10:55] <scrip> ah, yeah, I'm monitoring a few hundred retarded little embeded linux boxes
[02-Jul-2007 19:12:29] <bzed> scrip: I'm always trying to poke them to move to a proper tex file with ther documentataion instead of the neo-office document
[02-Jul-2007 19:12:52] <chowmeined> i like PDFs
[02-Jul-2007 19:13:07] <chowmeined> the tex font hurts my eyes.. but oh well
[02-Jul-2007 19:13:42] <bzed> you can change that
[02-Jul-2007 19:13:58] <chowmeined> ok
[02-Jul-2007 19:14:47] <scrip> so, can anyone here enlighten me to what the device name IS?
[02-Jul-2007 19:14:55] <scrip> is there I reason I can't seem to set it when I add the device?
[02-Jul-2007 19:15:17] <scrip> does it have to be a resolvable host name as long as I set a management IP address?
[02-Jul-2007 19:15:44] <chowmeined> i dont know..
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[02-Jul-2007 20:13:25] <markl_> for paging, my phone company has an email address i can use - how do i configure this in zenoss?
[02-Jul-2007 20:13:38] <markl_> snpp seems to be a little bit on the useless side these days, unless i'm missing something
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[03-Jul-2007 00:41:05] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've instaled zenoss and added a linux server to monitor. However, I don't see any graphs, uptime and dik used/free space are displayed as 'unknown'. What's wrong? Looked through the documentation but found no solution for that... Any ideas? Thanks.
[03-Jul-2007 00:50:57] <hid3> Hello... anybody here?
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[03-Jul-2007 01:14:06] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've instaled zenoss and added a linux server to monitor. However, I don't see any graphs, uptime and dik used/free space are displayed as 'unknown'. What's wrong? Looked through the documentation but found no solution for that... Any ideas? Thanks.
[03-Jul-2007 01:24:01] <hid3> Seems like a botnet
[03-Jul-2007 01:24:06] <hid3> ok, I'll try once more:
[03-Jul-2007 01:24:09] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've instaled zenoss and added a linux server to monitor. However, I don't see any graphs, uptime and dik used/free space are displayed as 'unknown'. What's wrong? Looked through the documentation but found no solution for that... Any ideas? Thanks.
[03-Jul-2007 01:34:15] <kompressor> hid3, do you have snmp installed on your server
[03-Jul-2007 02:03:29] <hid3> sure
[03-Jul-2007 02:03:48] <hid3> well, actually it was on localhost
[03-Jul-2007 02:04:18] <hid3> minutes ago I added one more server (linux), I see correct snmp requests/replies, however, the result is still the same.
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[03-Jul-2007 08:09:10] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good morning
[03-Jul-2007 08:12:35] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Good morning. Sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday. I tried to reproduce your problem, but got swept up in other things.
[03-Jul-2007 08:12:55] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I wasn't able to make my install throw up a blank page when adding a device unfortunately.
[03-Jul-2007 08:13:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: No problem.... What do you think a reinstall of the RPM might do?
[03-Jul-2007 08:16:55] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Not too much. You'd have to erase the existing RPM first, and that's not a good idea.
[03-Jul-2007 08:17:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Did you try to remove all of the changes we made?
[03-Jul-2007 08:19:46] <Bulwinkle> cluther: The only change I remember making was the edit of the InterfaceMap.py
[03-Jul-2007 08:20:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: should I remove the ZenPack too?
[03-Jul-2007 08:20:56] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Yes. After you remove it, make sure that the $ZENHOME/Products/MyCustomPack directory is gone too.
[03-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: It won't let me delete the ZenPack from the GUI
[03-Jul-2007 08:23:18] <cluther> What's the error?
[03-Jul-2007 08:25:22] <Bulwinkle> No error, just doesn't go away
[03-Jul-2007 08:27:01] <Bulwinkle> cluther: shrug?
[03-Jul-2007 08:28:34] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Try going to /zport/dmd/packs/manage_main
[03-Jul-2007 08:28:44] <cluther> Bulwinkle: See if you can remove it there.
[03-Jul-2007 08:29:53] <Bulwinkle> cluther: alrighty... Houston, we have a problem....
[03-Jul-2007 08:29:55] <cluther> Bulwinkle: That would be the part of the URL after :8080.. not a file system directory.
[03-Jul-2007 08:32:51] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Okay, got it.... I Moved the SeparateVLAN to back it up (instead of cp)... (OOPS)
[03-Jul-2007 08:33:38] <Bulwinkle> cluther: thats the good news... the bad news is that I still can't add a device
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[03-Jul-2007 08:37:43] <cluther> Bulwinkle: So the ZenPack is gone, and it's directory is gone?
[03-Jul-2007 08:38:09] <cluther> Bulwinkle: The directory needs to be somewhere outside of the Products directory so that Zope won't pick it up.
[03-Jul-2007 08:38:18] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeppers... its in /root
[03-Jul-2007 08:38:31] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Okay, then restart zenoss and try adding a device again.
[03-Jul-2007 08:42:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: no go....
[03-Jul-2007 08:44:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: hmm.. you could try upgrading to the 2.0.1 RPM. http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-2.0.1-0.el4.i386.rpm
[03-Jul-2007 08:47:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: should work fine with fc6?
[03-Jul-2007 08:48:45] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Which RPM do you have installed now?
[03-Jul-2007 08:49:51] <Bulwinkle> el5
[03-Jul-2007 08:50:24] <cluther> ok, hold off on that. They haven't put the el5 RPM out for 2.0.1 quite yet.
[03-Jul-2007 08:50:38] <cluther> cluther: The dependencies are a bit different.
[03-Jul-2007 08:50:43] * Bulwinkle shakes his fist at the zenoss gods
[03-Jul-2007 08:52:16] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm going to do a clean install once I move zenoss to production. I'd like to run it on SuSE... any gotchas? I'd really rather build from source too....
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[03-Jul-2007 08:54:35] <cluther> Bulwinkle: There are people running on SuSE. Upgrades tend to be a bit smoother with the RPM install method. Why would you rather build from source?
[03-Jul-2007 08:56:30] <Bulwinkle> cluther: so if the developers come out with a quick fix for some problem I am having I don't have to wait for an RPM
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[03-Jul-2007 08:56:40] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Fair enough.
[03-Jul-2007 08:58:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm kind of anal like that....
[03-Jul-2007 09:09:22] <Bulwinkle> cluther: since I am planning on buying support once I go prod
[03-Jul-2007 09:15:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: maybe taking a class too
[03-Jul-2007 09:16:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: how often are the classes held?
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[03-Jul-2007 09:49:15] <Bulwinkle> Why is everyone dropping?>
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[03-Jul-2007 10:36:06] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I just applied for that open position at ZenOSS
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:23] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Wohooo!
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:23] <creiht>
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:31] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Good luck!
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:51] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle: dev position? (haven't looked as you can tell)
[03-Jul-2007 10:36:53] <Bulwinkle> Heheh... Thanks... The 40% travel probably wont sit well with my wife....
[03-Jul-2007 10:37:17] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: no, looks like an implementation consultant
[03-Jul-2007 10:39:06] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Where are you located?
[03-Jul-2007 10:39:30] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle: well good luck :-D
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[03-Jul-2007 11:02:59] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Think I should wait until 2.0.1 comes out for EL5 to fix the problem?
[03-Jul-2007 11:04:38] <MoreDakka_> Here is a fun fun question. Can a system be put on Maintenance from 1-4am every day to suppress alerts while the system does a reboot or whatever at the time?
[03-Jul-2007 11:04:49] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It must be something simple.. after all, it didn't used to happen.
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:02] <Bulwinkle> cluther: not until you broke it
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:05] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Could you try adding a device again, then looking in $ZENHOME/log/zenhub.log for errors?
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:15] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I only told you how to break it.
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Under the guise of helping.
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:37] <Bulwinkle> cluther: well, I certainly follow instructions well
[03-Jul-2007 11:05:45] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I can't believe you fell for it! =}
[03-Jul-2007 11:06:33] <Bulwinkle> cluther: You'd think I'd know better
[03-Jul-2007 11:07:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: tail of zenhub.log has several entries of WARNING: zenhub: removing listener (from today at 7:44:31)
[03-Jul-2007 11:08:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Nothing around the time you were adding devices?
[03-Jul-2007 11:08:10] <Bulwinkle> cluther: nopers
[03-Jul-2007 11:08:50] <cluther> Bulwinkle: How about the zenmodeler.log file?
[03-Jul-2007 11:10:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: tons of stuff in there.... Nothing with the IP address of the device I tried to add
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[03-Jul-2007 11:13:27] <MoreDakka_> cluther: in 2.0 (or future) will Zenoss have an option to use the Informant, WMI or neither to gather snmp cpu and memory stats from windows boxes? It would be nice to not have to install anything on the servers by default then if you want to have more detailed monitoring then put in the informant or wmi.
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[03-Jul-2007 11:27:26] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: you can always have different groups that poll things differently to separate WMI/SNMP/NONE polling'
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[03-Jul-2007 11:55:14] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle: I guess the problem is that every other monitoring system out there will monitor windows boxes without any installing of 3rd party mibs or programs by default.
[03-Jul-2007 11:56:27] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: Looks like ZenOSS Enterprise version will do it
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[03-Jul-2007 12:27:01] <MoreDakka_> Here is a fun fun question. Can a system be put on Maintenance from 1-4am every day to suppress alerts while the system does a reboot or whatever at the time?
[03-Jul-2007 12:27:48] <MoreDakka_> nevermind. found it....
[03-Jul-2007 12:27:51] <MoreDakka_> <- blind sometimes
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[03-Jul-2007 12:34:41] <solarce> MoreDakka_: you should put up a bounty for a zenoss component that can do windows performance monitoring with no extra components installed on the windows servers
[03-Jul-2007 12:37:37] <MoreDakka_> solarce: put up a bounty?
[03-Jul-2007 12:37:49] <solarce> MoreDakka_: yeah
[03-Jul-2007 12:37:58] <MoreDakka_> What do you mean?
[03-Jul-2007 12:38:19] <solarce> MoreDakka_: offer $ for someone to write it
[03-Jul-2007 12:39:27] <MoreDakka_> Ahhh, it's just odd that wouldn't be in the software by default. I have found the OIDs to read the cpu from windows without the informant but the memory usage requires a calculation to get it working and zenoss can't do that (yet)
[03-Jul-2007 12:39:39] <MoreDakka_> If I had money to pay someone I probably could ask for that ;-)
[03-Jul-2007 12:42:06] <bmunger> so how exactly do i setup zenoss to monitor if specific unix processes are running
[03-Jul-2007 12:47:14] <cluther> bmunger: Take a look at section 11.4 of the 2.0 admin guide. It explains how process monitoring works. It is the same for Windows or *nix.
[03-Jul-2007 12:48:29] <bmunger> thank you
[03-Jul-2007 12:50:13] <bmunger> looks like i can only set processes for all boxes not per specific machines
[03-Jul-2007 12:51:16] <cluther> bmunger: It works per machine. The modeling phase actually figures out which processes are running on which devices.
[03-Jul-2007 12:51:35] <cluther> bmunger: You can then choose to globally monitor (or not monitor) a process, or define it at the per-device level.
[03-Jul-2007 12:51:55] <bmunger> oh cool
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:07] <solarce> MoreDakka_: obviously other features take a higher priority
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:13] <bmunger> how is a remodel done?
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:34] <cluther> bmunger: From a device, click the page menu, Manage, Model..
[03-Jul-2007 12:52:45] <bmunger> thanks again
[03-Jul-2007 12:53:06] <cluther> solarce: Not really.. native WMI perf counter polling is a very high priority. This would address MoreDakka's issue.
[03-Jul-2007 12:53:51] <solarce> cluther: I know, but my point is, other things came first
[03-Jul-2007 12:54:33] <cluther> solarce: I can't argue with that. I think network device and Linux monitoring were higher priorities out of the gate.
[03-Jul-2007 12:54:37] <bmunger> so is there a way to add a tab to show the processes being monitoried on a specific box?
[03-Jul-2007 12:54:57] <cluther> bmunger: Processes are listed on the OS tab.
[03-Jul-2007 12:55:19] <bmunger> oops i was looking at the software, thanks!
[03-Jul-2007 12:56:00] <bmunger> great software
[03-Jul-2007 12:56:15] <solarce> bmunger: I agree!
[03-Jul-2007 12:57:45] <MoreDakka_> cluther: This software would be near perfect if it could do that (ther other thing would be a much easier way to customize reports)
[03-Jul-2007 13:00:32] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Those are two things that are asked about an awful lot. The first one is easy, just requires a bit of time to write a proper plugin. The second one is hard and a major focus of our Enterprise product.
[03-Jul-2007 13:01:03] <cluther> MoreDakka_: On the other hand. Once you do a few good reports it becomes much easier and VERY powerful.
[03-Jul-2007 13:03:47] <MoreDakka_> I have always found that coding something by had is always better but takes a long time to learn and master the code...that's the problem that I'm having with the current reporting system, I just can't wrap my head around how it all works
[03-Jul-2007 13:03:49] <MoreDakka_> If in the Maintenance Window I set the "Start Production State" to Maintenance, the alerts that I have that only search for Production devices will not report on that device, correct? Then when the timer is complete (Duration = 3 hours) and the Stop Production State sets the box back to Production so all the alerts apply again, correct?
[03-Jul-2007 13:07:20] <bmunger> is it possible to reset the zenoss shell account password without causing problems.. i need to use it for mailing alerts
[03-Jul-2007 13:09:58] <bmunger> nm
[03-Jul-2007 13:11:07] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Your explanation of maintenance windows is correct.
[03-Jul-2007 13:11:18] <MoreDakka_> Awesome, thanks cluther :-D
[03-Jul-2007 13:14:58] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Maybe you could use a better starting place for your report creation.
[03-Jul-2007 13:16:45] <MoreDakka_> cluther: what do you mean? I've tried examining all the reports that are in by default to see if I can grasp the language used but no go. Should I start learning how to code in python? That might be a better place to start?
[03-Jul-2007 13:17:49] <cluther> MoreDakka_: You will need to know some python in order to properly populated the "objects" variable that is used as the data for the report, but there are a lot of other speedbumps along the way.
[03-Jul-2007 13:18:30] <MoreDakka_> :-/ Oh well, I'll try my best to try to figure this out. ;-)
[03-Jul-2007 13:19:39] <MoreDakka_> Will ease of reporting end up in Core or is that just Enterprise?
[03-Jul-2007 13:22:35] <cluther> MoreDakka_: Not sure yet. I emailed you some info to get you helped on reports.
[03-Jul-2007 13:25:01] <MoreDakka_> Awesome, thanks. But what email addy did you use?
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[03-Jul-2007 13:33:49] <MoreDakka_> Ah, got it. Thanks cluther!!!
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[03-Jul-2007 13:58:28] <MoreDakka_> cluther: will this example of a custom report work with v1.1.1?
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[03-Jul-2007 15:05:39] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any other ideas on things for me to try?
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[03-Jul-2007 17:06:27] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone tell me why zenoss is chewing up 98% cpu cycle? "21358 zenoss 15 0 187m 138m 4344 S 98.7 13.7 130:07.76 python2.4"
[03-Jul-2007 17:08:21] <MoreDakka_> That pid == zopectl
[03-Jul-2007 17:08:43] <MoreDakka_> I'm going to have to try to restart the process.
[03-Jul-2007 17:15:15] <MoreDakka_> well a restart of all the zenoss processes fixed that issue. Are there any log files that I can look through to find out why it was beating my server down?
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[03-Jul-2007 17:33:22] * |__rb__| says hi to the room
[03-Jul-2007 17:34:16] <|__rb__|> I have Zenoss installed on Linux machine, having trouble pulling snmp performance graphs for Windows boxes, can anyone, thanks
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[03-Jul-2007 17:42:27] <|__rb__|> anyone?
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[03-Jul-2007 18:15:56] <|__rb__|> Bueller? Bueller?
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[03-Jul-2007 18:17:48] <MoreDakka_> I won't be of much help but what are you looking for?
[03-Jul-2007 18:18:34] <|__rb__|> just trying to graph the cpu mem performance for windows, but it won't show, works ok on linux machines and router and such, but no performance graphs for windows
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:15] <MoreDakka_> Ooo...I can help ;-)
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:19] <solarce> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:20] <solarce> MoreDakka_:
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:25] <MoreDakka_> You need the SNMP Informant.
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:26] <|__rb__|> kewl
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:32] <|__rb__|> I have it already installed
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:33] <MoreDakka_> installed on the windows machine
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:36] <MoreDakka_> uhh...hmmm
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:54] <solarce> does snmp informant have any ACL settings?
[03-Jul-2007 18:19:54] <|__rb__|> yep, that's what I say
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:01] <|__rb__|> not that Iknow of,
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:09] <MoreDakka_> I'm assuming all the basic stuff is good like your community and such.
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:13] <|__rb__|> I just setup which ip's for server it can be pulled and the community name
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:16] <|__rb__|> yep
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:27] <MoreDakka_> firewalls?
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:31] <solarce> well, solar flares are unusually high today
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:34] <MoreDakka_> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:43] <MoreDakka_> aren't the planets aligning too?
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:45] <|__rb__|> nope
[03-Jul-2007 18:20:54] <solarce> your polarity may have been reversed
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:00] <MoreDakka_> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:01] <|__rb__|> I can try to reinstall, but I don't think it'll help
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:10] <|__rb__|> solarce!!!
[03-Jul-2007 18:21:28] <MoreDakka_> What happens when you try to Collect Configuration?
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:04] <|__rb__|> the configuration get's collected ok, everything seems toshow ok under the os tab, but no graphs display under perf
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:18] <MoreDakka> How long have you let it sit?
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:29] <MoreDakka> I've been told like 15-20 minutes.
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:32] <|__rb__|> by now, couple weeks
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:36] <MoreDakka> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:39] <MoreDakka> hmmm
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:43] <|__rb__|> ya
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:45] <MoreDakka> too long....you messed it up
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:47] <MoreDakka> haha
[03-Jul-2007 18:23:54] <|__rb__|> hehhe
[03-Jul-2007 18:24:10] <MoreDakka> well, no idea. The Informant was my only smart answer
[03-Jul-2007 18:24:31] <|__rb__|> it's crazy, as much as I don't like windows, they are giving me the most trouble
[03-Jul-2007 18:24:45] <|__rb__|> maybe I'll try to uninstall and reinstall snmp as well as informant,
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:03] <MoreDakka> that might be your best bet...or try WMI (I've never tried it).
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:05] <|__rb__|> I've done some searches on the net, seems like the informant is a good solution for this type of stuff
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:11] <|__rb__|> ya,
[03-Jul-2007 18:25:34] <|__rb__|> I think i have to upgrade to the 2.0 version and also upgrade samba to be able to dothe WMI pulls
[03-Jul-2007 18:28:42] <MoreDakka> or use a 2nd windows box other than your zenoss box. what v of zenoss are you running?
[03-Jul-2007 18:29:37] <|__rb__|> it's 1.1.2
[03-Jul-2007 18:30:13] <MoreDakka> I'm one back from you. I'm waiting for 2.1 before upgrading (has the features I'm looking for). My day is done, have a good evening.
[03-Jul-2007 18:31:40] <|__rb__|> thank you foryour help, enjoy
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[03-Jul-2007 21:59:17] <jeisenberg4925> i have been using zenoss for a while. i was wondering how to update via the trunk. can someone tell me if that will be effective to go from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1?
[03-Jul-2007 22:01:10] <jeisenberg4925> anyone?
[03-Jul-2007 22:11:24] <bzed> 2.0.1 was released, you shoudl be able to ugrade it as usually
[03-Jul-2007 22:11:27] <bzed> no need for svn
[03-Jul-2007 22:12:03] <bzed> but.. I don;t have any real clue about that, I'm only working on packages for debian
[03-Jul-2007 22:13:25] <jeisenberg4925> i am using centos and had a bad experience just upgrading an hour ago. at least i backed up the old instance before the upgrade. it failed on zenwin and some python deps (i think)
[03-Jul-2007 22:15:58] <jeisenberg4925> i guess i will read more in the forums in the next few days. i am sure i am not the only one with the issues.
[03-Jul-2007 22:16:01] <jeisenberg4925>
[03-Jul-2007 22:16:05] <jeisenberg4925> night folks
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[04-Jul-2007 05:01:40] <Darkfang> hi
[04-Jul-2007 05:03:12] <Darkfang> anyone alive?
[04-Jul-2007 05:03:42] <jsegura> yep
[04-Jul-2007 05:05:27] <Darkfang> i've installed zenoss a few days ago. It's working great
[04-Jul-2007 05:05:35] <Darkfang> but i'd like to add some functionnality
[04-Jul-2007 05:05:50] <Darkfang> the fact is i'm new to python and specially to zope
[04-Jul-2007 05:06:13] <Darkfang> so i'm still trying to understand how zope, zeo and the python scripts are working together
[04-Jul-2007 05:06:38] <Darkfang> do you know where i can find something helpful about it?
[04-Jul-2007 05:18:17] <Darkfang> it seems not ^^
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[04-Jul-2007 05:40:08] <jsegura> sorry
[04-Jul-2007 05:40:10] <jsegura> i was on breakfast time
[04-Jul-2007 05:40:14] <jsegura> I can't help you, I'm in the same situation as you
[04-Jul-2007 05:51:12] <Darkfang> k ^^
[04-Jul-2007 05:51:26] <Darkfang> i'm trying to navigate in the "manage" interface of zope
[04-Jul-2007 05:51:38] <Darkfang> but i don't understand much ^^
[04-Jul-2007 06:09:11] <Darkfang> yeahhh did it
[04-Jul-2007 06:09:26] <Darkfang> manage to add a button in the device menu bar
[04-Jul-2007 06:50:10] <Darkfang> who should be contacted for bug correcting?
[04-Jul-2007 06:59:51] <jsegura> maybe the bug page in sourceforge
[04-Jul-2007 06:59:59] <jsegura> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=826503&group_id=163126&func=browse
[04-Jul-2007 06:59:59] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Bugs (at sourceforge.net)
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[04-Jul-2007 16:45:07] <MoreDakka> quiet in here today.
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[04-Jul-2007 20:24:02] <thedude42> having trouble with alerts.. i can send test e mails, but for the life of me i can't get an alert to send when an event occurs
[04-Jul-2007 20:25:03] <creiht> thedude42: Do you have a delay set for the alert?
[04-Jul-2007 20:25:17] <thedude42> one one test alert yes, on another one no
[04-Jul-2007 20:26:05] <thedude42> i assume it's not necessary to restart the zenaction daemon after each update to an alert rule
[04-Jul-2007 20:26:13] <creiht> you shouldn't have to
[04-Jul-2007 20:26:28] <creiht> thedude42: I would check your zenaction.log for any errors first
[04-Jul-2007 20:27:01] <thedude42> right, that's what's bugging me... zenaction seems to think it has nothing to do at all
[04-Jul-2007 20:27:08] <thedude42> endless list of processing 0 jobs
[04-Jul-2007 20:27:12] <creiht> hrmm
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:18] <thedude42> my understanding of the alert system is that it requires an activation window in order to schedule monitoring
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:19] <creiht> How long ago did you add the alerts?
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:41] <creiht> activation window?
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:42] <thedude42> the original one was created last week, this one i created about an hour ago for testing
[04-Jul-2007 20:28:48] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:13] <creiht> Unfortunately I'm not at work today so I don't have access to my zenoss install
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:22] <thedude42> sorry... active period, not activationw indow
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:26] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:41] <creiht> Are you sure all the other criteria are met?
[04-Jul-2007 20:29:57] <creiht> Like check the level of the event that is happening
[04-Jul-2007 20:30:07] <creiht> and compare that to what level it will alert on
[04-Jul-2007 20:30:42] <thedude42> yup, positive... i even elevated the severity of the service i'm using to test in order to guarantee it meets the minimum for default alert settings
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:02] <thedude42> hm
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:11] <thedude42> is the zenactions config file supposed to be blank?
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:29] <creiht> thedude42: I don't think that would cause a problem
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:35] <creiht> I think mine is blank as well
[04-Jul-2007 20:32:56] <thedude42> i'm noticing that most of the daemon configs are blank, so i assume that's only for debugging or other non standard configs
[04-Jul-2007 20:33:10] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:13] <thedude42> zenoss has to be using it's own mail client, because my mail logs aren't showing anything for the successful test messages
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:13] <creiht> thedude42: You might try running zenaction manually while the service is down and set verbose logging to see if it revels anything
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:38] <creiht> something like:
[04-Jul-2007 20:36:54] <creiht> zenaction run -v10
[04-Jul-2007 20:37:04] <creiht> That is off the top of my head
[04-Jul-2007 20:38:44] <thedude42> hm
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:05] <thedude42> root@abydos:/usr/local/zenoss/bin# zenactions run -v10
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:05] <thedude42> DEBUG:zen.ZenActions:loading action rules for:zenwin
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:05] <thedude42> DEBUG:zen.ZenActions:loading action rules for:zenoss
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:16] <creiht> hmm
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:18] <thedude42> so, the 2 users i added are there
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:27] <thedude42> but it's not loading the actions for admin
[04-Jul-2007 20:39:54] <thedude42> which would make sense that it's not processing any jobs, because i added nothing for these users
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:02] <thedude42> ok, now the log has something
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:48] <thedude42> haha.. my phone can't handle the messahe
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:51] <thedude42> message
[04-Jul-2007 20:47:58] <thedude42> ok, that answers that question
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:03] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:04] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:05] <creiht> good
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:22] <thedude42> i mean, what's up with aenaction not processing the admin alert rules
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:30] <thedude42> i'd think that would be a default action
[04-Jul-2007 20:48:47] <creiht> thedude42: That is a good question... I'm not sure
[04-Jul-2007 20:50:17] <thedude42> well, i'll accept it as is since it's pretty trivial to create new uersers
[04-Jul-2007 20:50:22] <thedude42> users
[04-Jul-2007 20:50:47] <thedude42> but my understanding of the alerting schedule is a bit murky....
[04-Jul-2007 20:51:28] <thedude42> is it that, you set the start day and start hour, and then set the duration for a window of time beginnign at the start time....
[04-Jul-2007 20:51:54] <thedude42> and then you choose the repeat to determin when exactly that window will be honored on subsequent days?
[04-Jul-2007 20:52:35] <creiht> thedude42: I haven't used that part yet
[04-Jul-2007 20:52:39] <creiht> So I'm not sure
[04-Jul-2007 20:52:50] <creiht> I unfortunately have to get pages 24hrs a day
[04-Jul-2007 20:54:13] <thedude42> well, i'll find out tomorrow then
[04-Jul-2007 20:54:30] <thedude42> i cleaned up the message format and the text message came though
[04-Jul-2007 20:55:16] <thedude42> i don't think it liked the URL's
[04-Jul-2007 20:57:15] <thedude42> have you ever noticed that if a host status goes down, ip services for the host still read as being up?
[04-Jul-2007 20:59:54] <creiht> host status?
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:40] <thedude42> right, like <device x> is down type of status
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:44] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:46] <creiht> hrmm
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:52] <creiht> I haven't seen that problem
[04-Jul-2007 21:00:59] <creiht> Though I haven't upgraded to 2.0 yet
[04-Jul-2007 21:01:09] <thedude42> i mean, it makes sense that a host being seen as completely down overrides any other monitoring
[04-Jul-2007 21:01:38] <thedude42> ah, well... this is my first take at zenoss, starting with 2.0
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:09] <thedude42> spent a whole week messing with the WMI components, and they aren't working at all
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:31] <creiht> I've heard that the WMI stuff can be a bit of a pain
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:34] <thedude42> bugs me that in the release notes it claims that they rely on samba 4 components
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:43] <creiht> There are a coupld of guys here that have done it succesfully
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:51] <creiht> I would check back tomorrow after the holidays
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:51] <thedude42> on 2.0?
[04-Jul-2007 21:02:53] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:05] <creiht> I remember them talking about it
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:16] <creiht> Unfortunately I don't remember who
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:29] <creiht> Though if you see cluther on, he can probably help
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:31] <thedude42> yeah, will have to do that.... as far as i know, you don't use a windows proxy for it anymore
[04-Jul-2007 21:03:53] <creiht> right
[04-Jul-2007 21:04:45] <thedude42> i saw something about winexe
[04-Jul-2007 21:05:13] <thedude42> but i'm not that familiar with python to go experimenting
[04-Jul-2007 21:05:55] <creiht> have you read this
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:02] <creiht> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/guide-to-setting-up-zenwin/
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:02] <thedude42> yup
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:28] <thedude42> that's still with a windows wmi proxy
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:34] <creiht> oh
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:35] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:44] <thedude42> took me 3 days to figure that out
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:49] <creiht> doh
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:55] <creiht> that stinks... sorry man
[04-Jul-2007 21:06:57] <thedude42> then another 3 days to reconcile that i wasn't going to get it to work
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:05] <creiht> Someone needs to clean that stuff up
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:27] <thedude42> eh, i can't complain, the package still does way more than i could ask for for free
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:44] <thedude42> without having to do a manual nagios configuration
[04-Jul-2007 21:07:59] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:05] <creiht> yeah it is a great product
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:13] <creiht> A couple of rough edges still
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:19] <creiht> but I expect for those to get better
[04-Jul-2007 21:08:46] <creiht> I've been using it since the first betas, and I have been surprised how quickly they have added new functionality
[04-Jul-2007 21:10:19] <thedude42> i assume they are working harder on getting a polished product than user documentation
[04-Jul-2007 21:10:30] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:12] <creiht> Documentation is always a tough thing
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:20] <creiht> No matter if you are open or closed soruce
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:28] <creiht> I do know that they know it is a problem
[04-Jul-2007 21:11:34] <creiht> And they want to work on it
[04-Jul-2007 21:12:06] <creiht> And it is probably one of the most commonly asked enhancements now
[04-Jul-2007 21:12:27] <thedude42> documentation?
[04-Jul-2007 21:12:32] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 21:14:56] <thedude42> are you getting my pm's?
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:08] <creiht> thedude42: no
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:13] <thedude42> bleh
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:16] <creiht> hehe
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:17] <thedude42> not registered
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:19] <creiht> yeah
[04-Jul-2007 21:15:34] <creiht> oh well
[04-Jul-2007 21:16:29] <thedude42> now i'm getting errors for the clear message...
[04-Jul-2007 21:16:34] <thedude42> wtf
[04-Jul-2007 21:19:17] <thedude42> ok, there we go
[04-Jul-2007 21:19:36] <thedude42> note for the future: 2.0 has a bad default message string for clear messages
[04-Jul-2007 21:19:59] <creiht> hehe... I had set my own anyways
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:11] <creiht> Which part causes problems?
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:48] <thedude42> not sure, i think it's the severity
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:54] <creiht> ahh
[04-Jul-2007 21:20:56] <creiht> interesting
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:13] <thedude42> WARNING zen.ZenActions: SELECT clear.device,clear.message,clear.firstTime,clear.summary,clear.severity FROM history clear,
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:16] <creiht> If you can isolate the problem, I would recommend submitting a bug
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:34] <creiht> Or just submit a bug with that warning
[04-Jul-2007 21:21:49] <thedude42> i saw some stuff about it on google, i think it's a known issue
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[05-Jul-2007 00:12:15] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - It's Been a Long Time - 03 Jul, 09:04PM
[05-Jul-2007 00:12:16] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=139
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[05-Jul-2007 04:40:12] <jsegura> hi there
[05-Jul-2007 04:40:14] <jsegura> anyone alive?
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[05-Jul-2007 05:29:12] <Sz___> I'm trying to add a new performace graph. (for oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.16.2.1.3.1) I've made a new template, data source, datapoints and graph. What else do I have to do?
[05-Jul-2007 05:35:51] <Sz___> Binding it seems to be a good start
[05-Jul-2007 05:41:41] <Sz___> Restarted zenperfsnmp. Now I'm getting data in perf/
[05-Jul-2007 06:04:50] <Sz___> No, I'm getting rrd files with no data ion perf/
[05-Jul-2007 07:07:30] <jsegura> d
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[05-Jul-2007 07:08:03] <jsegura> anyone has played with zenhub or with remote mysql databases in 2.0.x ?
[05-Jul-2007 07:08:31] <jsegura> I'm trying to deploy a centralized monitoring system over my networks
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[05-Jul-2007 08:11:03] <aitayemi> hello
[05-Jul-2007 08:11:08] <aitayemi> anybody online?
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[05-Jul-2007 08:54:52] <Bulwinkle> aitayemi: I'm here
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[05-Jul-2007 10:58:22] <Bulwinkle> cluther: is there a package out for 2.0.1 for el5?
[05-Jul-2007 11:08:06] <jeisenberg> the one that is out will not work because it does not install the python libraries for zenwin.
[05-Jul-2007 11:08:25] <jeisenberg> (unless they fixed it)
[05-Jul-2007 11:18:41] <Bulwinkle> My ZenOSS install is hosed... it won't let me add new devices....
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[05-Jul-2007 11:38:25] <rodeoclown> When I create a new process to get monitored, for example I'm trying to monitor some bacula processes that start out like /usr/sbin/bacula-dir, after saving the new process, it makes the / into underscores, but the process counts never show up or get picked up, anything in particular I'm doing wrong?
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[05-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <jeisenberg> Bulwinkle - I got lucky as I backed up my original instance. Did anyone here answer you with a place to download the missing python libs?
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[05-Jul-2007 12:29:58] <MoreDakka> If I'm creating an rrd template where I create a graph that will show me all the cpus then an average as well would the cdef formula be " a,b,+,c,+,d,+,4,/ " ? It seems that it's off by about .5 of a %, not sure why
[05-Jul-2007 12:32:30] <rkagin> MoreDakka: It could be sampling rate - I read interesting things about RRDTool sampling every 4 minutes...
[05-Jul-2007 12:34:46] <MoreDakka> Hmm, possible. It's weird though, on the graph I have it showing all 4 cpus (example 7.71, 14.42, 9.71, 17.69 [avg-12.38]) RRD gives 10.86 as the avg... :-/
[05-Jul-2007 12:35:56] <MoreDakka> But you think that formula is correct?
[05-Jul-2007 12:38:04] <rkagin> MoreDakka: The formula follows the standard to my belief.
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[05-Jul-2007 12:44:39] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Try computing the sum and see if the formula returns the correct information.
[05-Jul-2007 12:45:01] <MoreDakka> ah, someone's thinking this morning ;-) good idea
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[05-Jul-2007 12:46:14] <weez> greetings, I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any patches floating around to allow LDAP authentication for zenoss 2.0? Thanks
[05-Jul-2007 12:46:23] <MoreDakka> Yeah the math is wrong.
[05-Jul-2007 12:47:10] <MoreDakka> RRD = 43.45 (7.81, 14.42, 9.72, 17.69), Calc = 49.64
[05-Jul-2007 12:47:40] <rkagin> Try putting out just the first value and see if they match.
[05-Jul-2007 12:48:27] <rkagin> weez: Did you check this out? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/
[05-Jul-2007 12:48:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-Jul-2007 12:49:17] <rkagin> weez: It is currently blocked by this ticket: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/1040 , so I don't think it will work until Zenoss 2.1.
[05-Jul-2007 12:49:24] <adytum-bot> Title: #1040 (Zenoss Cannot Authenticate Against LDAP Server) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[05-Jul-2007 12:51:37] <weez> rkagin: thanks, i saw that ticket. I was wondering if anyone had any unofficial patches or anything that needed testing/verification
[05-Jul-2007 12:52:29] <rkagin> weez: Sorry, can't say I do.
[05-Jul-2007 12:52:57] <weez> rkagin: well if my customer decides to pay me to investigate, I will let you know if i generate any
[05-Jul-2007 12:53:28] <weez> rkagin: dont think that will happen now, but there is still a small hope
[05-Jul-2007 12:53:35] <rkagin> weez: Fair enough.
[05-Jul-2007 12:56:48] <MoreDakka> rkagin: on a couple of the cpus RRD seems to be returning the MAX as the LAST value (I don't know much about RRD templates, just learning now)
[05-Jul-2007 12:57:54] <rkagin> MoreDakka: It's ok, I have been learning about it as well. What's the definition of the entire RRD report?
[05-Jul-2007 12:58:07] <rkagin> MoreDakka: The command executed for RRDTool, in fact.
[05-Jul-2007 12:58:35] <MoreDakka> You want the whole thing?
[05-Jul-2007 12:58:51] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Pastebin it if you like.
[05-Jul-2007 12:59:15] <MoreDakka> pastebin.org right?
[05-Jul-2007 12:59:50] <rkagin> pastebin.com, pastebin.ca, whatever you choose.
[05-Jul-2007 13:01:43] <MoreDakka> It's being slow today...just a min.
[05-Jul-2007 13:03:33] <MoreDakka> http://moredakka.pastebin.com/942584
[05-Jul-2007 13:04:07] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Maybe pastebin.ca is faster...
[05-Jul-2007 13:07:25] <MoreDakka> rkagin: are you able to access that?
[05-Jul-2007 13:07:46] <rkagin> MoreDakka: It's fine, I accessed it, yes; I'm thinking that lines 15-18 need to have different names that you decide to reference them to.
[05-Jul-2007 13:08:32] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Oh wait, they're different files, same attribute...
[05-Jul-2007 13:08:33] <MoreDakka> like cpu1-4?
[05-Jul-2007 13:09:18] <rkagin> MoreDakka: CPU0 through CPU4 - those values are all accurate, but the formula you output is incorrect?
[05-Jul-2007 13:10:09] <MoreDakka> The result of the formula is incorrect
[05-Jul-2007 13:10:41] <rkagin> MoreDakka: But the result of the lines for a,b,c,d are correct?
[05-Jul-2007 13:12:07] <MoreDakka> Nope, if I have 'cdef=a' or 'cdef=b' it will return the proper values, if I have 'cdef=c' or 'cdef=d' it seems to have the same values for LAST(current) and MAX
[05-Jul-2007 13:13:16] <rkagin> MoreDakka: For c and d, you have lines 33 and 37 respectively saying AVERAGE, not LAST.
[05-Jul-2007 13:14:48] <rkagin> MoreDakka: So your value of "current" may not be correct, and your formula correct after all.
[05-Jul-2007 13:15:55] <MoreDakka> true...I'm just doing a check right now.
[05-Jul-2007 13:18:21] <MoreDakka> Nope, math is still out.
[05-Jul-2007 13:19:49] <rkagin> MoreDakka: The values changed though?
[05-Jul-2007 13:21:10] <MoreDakka> On the current values, that one is now correct but the min and the max are not (the math doesn't work for the formula), back to square 1 with correct values in the current for cpus c and d.
[05-Jul-2007 13:21:54] <rkagin> MoreDakka: My debug strategy would be to have cdefa be just a, then just b, c, and d, and see if it outputs the right values (you did this already, right? and does it output correctly?).
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[05-Jul-2007 13:23:40] <dislo> hey guys i have been recieving an email for the last day on the minute and i need some help figuring out why
[05-Jul-2007 13:23:58] <rodeoclown> what command do you use to force the remodel immediately after adding processes instead of waiting for the default 6 hour remodel, the manual doesn't explain this for 1.1
[05-Jul-2007 13:24:47] <MoreDakka> When I first did that it wasn't returning the same values in the graph. (as you can see by the RRD Command I have all 4 CPUs then the formula to give the averages). I'll go through that again to make sure.
[05-Jul-2007 13:27:04] <MoreDakka> So all the values are being returned properly now. I'm going to try part of the formula and see what happens. (a,b,+,4,/ ....etc...etc...)
[05-Jul-2007 13:30:00] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Let me know what happens.
[05-Jul-2007 13:30:19] <MoreDakka> It's not doing the addition on MIN properly (5.17+2.26=7.43, RRD=9.06)
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[05-Jul-2007 13:31:07] <MoreDakka> same with MAX (17.80+18.65=36.45, RRD=35.31)
[05-Jul-2007 13:31:09] <rkagin> So cdefa=a,b,+ isn't working?
[05-Jul-2007 13:31:34] <MoreDakka> a,b,+ is working for LAST but not for MIN or MAX
[05-Jul-2007 13:32:38] <rkagin> MoreDakka: Maybe MIN/MAX are limited in that they don't take the MIN/MAX of each value and compute it; rather, it tries to take the MIN/MAX of the operation. Try defining a new CDEF using MIN(a), MIN(b), +, or whatever other syntax.
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[05-Jul-2007 13:45:15] <jb> to upgrade from 2.0 -> 2.0.1 via RPM, rpm -Uvh should do it, right?
[05-Jul-2007 13:58:21] <Bulwinkle> jb: yes
[05-Jul-2007 14:01:08] <MoreDakka> rkagin: I would have to have a cdef for each one if I was to try to do it that way... :-/
[05-Jul-2007 14:02:02] <rkagin> MoreDakka: To tell you the truth, I'm not sure. But possibly.
[05-Jul-2007 14:04:21] <MoreDakka> rkagin: bah :-/
[05-Jul-2007 14:04:36] <MoreDakka> time to go eat lunch anyways
[05-Jul-2007 14:09:06] <jb> hrm, zenwin/eventlog/winmondelor wont start now
[05-Jul-2007 14:09:55] <rkagin> MoreDakka: I do what I can.
[05-Jul-2007 14:10:51] <jb> zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 95: 23745 Segmentation fault $ZENHOME/bin/$cmd "$FUNC"
[05-Jul-2007 14:10:52] <jb> nice
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[05-Jul-2007 14:38:59] <The_Man> If anyones install 2.0.1, I've followed the directions, but keep getting an error about starting zedwin. No module named pythoncom No module named pywintypes
[05-Jul-2007 14:39:13] <The_Man> zenwin
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[05-Jul-2007 16:41:29] <|__rb__|> hello, need some help understand why I won't get notification when the httpd is down?
[05-Jul-2007 16:41:36] <|__rb__|> I've listed as the administrator
[05-Jul-2007 16:41:45] <MoreDakka> have you created another user?
[05-Jul-2007 16:41:59] <|__rb__|> yes
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:01] <MoreDakka> There needs to be at least one other user other than admin
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:05] <|__rb__|> I created a profile for myself
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:11] <|__rb__|> with my email and cell phone for sms
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:15] <MoreDakka> is the alerting rule under that user?
[05-Jul-2007 16:42:54] <|__rb__|> basically under: Mange: Administrators: and Role is Administrator
[05-Jul-2007 16:43:45] <MoreDakka> ur running 2.0 or higher right? I'm on v1.1.1 :-/ Might be a bit different.
[05-Jul-2007 16:44:16] <MoreDakka> In v1.1.1 there is a /Users folder, not sure if that's in 2.0
[05-Jul-2007 16:50:41] <|__rb__|> no it's 1.1
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:03] <MoreDakka> ah so you should have from dmd a /Users
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:06] <|__rb__|> I also clicked on the Test botton to see if the email works, and it's ok
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:25] <MoreDakka> so I'm assuming you created the user in the /Users folder?
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:42] <|__rb__|> yes
[05-Jul-2007 16:51:50] <|__rb__|> and when I click on test there it works.
[05-Jul-2007 16:52:38] <MoreDakka> Ok, then under that user you created an Alerting Rule (unique to each user)?
[05-Jul-2007 16:53:56] <|__rb__|> not sure about alerting rule
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:20] <|__rb__|> ah, nothing is setup there?
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:38] <|__rb__|> what's suppose to be in there
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:46] <MoreDakka> Well go under the user and you should have 4 tabs, Edit/Administered Objects, Event Views/Alerting rules (I'm assuming you found it, I'm just going to hit enter)
[05-Jul-2007 16:54:54] <MoreDakka> Put your alerting rule in there.
[05-Jul-2007 16:55:26] <MoreDakka> The default rule will alert you on anything error/critical including httpd down.
[05-Jul-2007 16:55:29] <|__rb__|> under Admin Objects it only shows the devices which i'mve configure to be admin as
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:03] <|__rb__|> but under Alerting Rules, there is nothing?
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:07] <MoreDakka> I haven't used the Administered Objects tab yet so I can't help you with that one (i'm the main admin/only admin here.
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:08] <MoreDakka> )
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[05-Jul-2007 16:56:22] <MoreDakka> Yeah, you'll have to create your alerts under there.
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:46] <|__rb__|> I just see a input colume and Add/Delete/Select All
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:50] <|__rb__|> what would I be adding?
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:50] <MoreDakka> If you created it under the Preferences option (in the top right) that doesn't seem to do anything.
[05-Jul-2007 16:56:59] <MoreDakka> Click on Add and you'll add a new rule
[05-Jul-2007 16:57:18] <MoreDakka> to alert you when things go down
[05-Jul-2007 16:57:28] <|__rb__|> what should I type in the box, prior to clicking on Add
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:06] <MoreDakka> Whatever you want the name to be. You can start out with "Test Rule" or something like that
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:14] <|__rb__|> oh I see
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:21] <|__rb__|> this makes more sense now
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:28] <MoreDakka> It sorta makes sense.
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:46] <|__rb__|> AH! getting the alert now
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:47] <MoreDakka> I don't understand why when you create a rule under the admin preferences that nothing gets alerted to that rule....I dunno.
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:50] <MoreDakka> hehe
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:52] <MoreDakka> yay
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:53] <|__rb__|> kewl, thank you
[05-Jul-2007 16:58:56] <MoreDakka> So with your sms messages
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:08] <MoreDakka> don't use the paging option, send it to your email address of your phone.
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:15] <MoreDakka> I find that the paging option doesn't work.
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:16] <|__rb__|> ok
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:17] <MoreDakka> with sms
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:24] <MoreDakka> Glad I could help ;-)
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:25] <|__rb__|> kewl, I'll try that
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:30] <|__rb__|> thanks again
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:33] <MoreDakka> np
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:44] <|__rb__|> I"m usually use to working with Nagios
[05-Jul-2007 16:59:56] <|__rb__|> but this seems to be a really good monitoring tool as well
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:21] <MoreDakka> Yeah we went from Nagios to Zenoss as well.
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:37] <MoreDakka> If you are just getting into it I would recommend getting v2.1 and ditch v1.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:45] <MoreDakka> Lots of improvements in 2.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:00:51] <|__rb__|> that's what I hear,
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:07] <MoreDakka> I just fear the worst when it comes to upgrading.
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:08] <|__rb__|> unfortunelty I've already rolled out 1.x, but, I'm sure the upgrade will be fun
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:13] <MoreDakka> hehe
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:20] <|__rb__|> yep, me too
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:27] <|__rb__|> I upgraded without reading the upgrade docs
[05-Jul-2007 17:01:43] <|__rb__|> and it broke, thank god I was able uninstall 2.0 and put 1.0 back and it worked again
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:00] <bzed> MoreDakka: you mean 2.0.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:08] <MoreDakka> So we are sticking with v1.1.1 until they get the calculations for rrds in...need that for cpu usage on multiple cpu systems
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:12] <MoreDakka> Uhh...
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:14] <MoreDakka> sure ;-)
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:16] <MoreDakka> 2.0.1
[05-Jul-2007 17:02:20] <MoreDakka> that's what I said
[05-Jul-2007 17:04:28] <MoreDakka> thought I saw someone in here talking about their upgrade to 2.1....they must have been mistaken or I'm just missing letters while I'm reading stuff.
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:26] <|__rb__|> How can I configure for all routers to have the same alerting user without going into every single one individually?
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:36] <|__rb__|> basically do a mass configuration for alerting?
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:49] <MoreDakka> How many users are you creating?
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:49] <bzed> MoreDakka: 2.0.1 came out yesterady I think, so I guess it was a mistake
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:58] <MoreDakka> Ah, my mistake then.
[05-Jul-2007 17:05:59] <|__rb__|> just one user, with multiple address
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:21] <|__rb__|> but instead of going into ever router to setup the user, just wanna do all the routers
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:35] <MoreDakka> You shouldn't have to set it up in any router.
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:50] <MoreDakka> So one user to get all the alerts right?
[05-Jul-2007 17:06:54] <MoreDakka> for all your devices?
[05-Jul-2007 17:07:29] <|__rb__|> not for all the devices, I want our networking guy to get the alerts for all the routers
[05-Jul-2007 17:09:28] <MoreDakka> Hmmm.....since I just have all the alerts going to one or two users I haven't filtered like that yet. I'm assuming that you could put all the routers into a systems group called routers and in the alerting rule set the Systems is /routers
[05-Jul-2007 17:09:44] <MoreDakka> then he will only get the alerts from the devices that are in the /routers systems group.
[05-Jul-2007 17:11:09] <|__rb__|> kewl, I''ll try that
[05-Jul-2007 17:12:33] <MoreDakka> I'm certain there is a better way to do it with the adminitered objects but I don't know how to do that.
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[05-Jul-2007 17:28:59] <dislo> hey guys i have been recieving an email for the last day on the minute and i need some help figuring out why
[05-Jul-2007 17:29:22] <MoreDakka> What's the email?
[05-Jul-2007 17:30:44] <dislo> MoreDakka, it says that one of my routers is up and that it is clearing something but my routers status hasnt changed
[05-Jul-2007 17:31:12] <MoreDakka> is it an snmp trap?
[05-Jul-2007 17:31:33] <dislo> i dont think so
[05-Jul-2007 17:31:51] <MoreDakka> Do you have the events in zenoss as well?
[05-Jul-2007 17:32:47] <dislo> no there is no corresponding event
[05-Jul-2007 17:34:08] <MoreDakka> I'm in v1.1.1 so if you are in v2.0.x then it might be different. have you looked under the log of zenactions?
[05-Jul-2007 17:34:45] <dislo> nope i havent and yes i am in 2.0.0 i think
[05-Jul-2007 17:35:26] <MoreDakka> Check those logs, it should show you that zenoss is emailing alerts to you every minute. if there is nothing being checked then check your mail server to make sure that message isn't endlessly stuck.
[05-Jul-2007 17:36:19] <dislo> ok
[05-Jul-2007 17:36:33] <dislo> where is the zen action log
[05-Jul-2007 17:37:23] <MoreDakka> (this is in v1.1.1) on the left side click about, then you will see zenactions and to the right of it will show a link to a log file, click on that and scroll to the bottom (bottom is the newest)
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:06] <dislo> this is all it says
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:07] <dislo> 2007-07-05 14:35:51 INFO zen.ZenActions: processed 1 rules in 0.94 secs
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:07] <dislo> 2007-07-05 14:36:51 INFO zen.ZenActions: Processed 0 commands in 0.001200
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:07] <dislo> 2007-07-05 14:36:52 INFO zen.ZenActions: sent email:[zenoss] CLEAR: crouter crouter ip 192.168.2.253 is up to:npappin@latahfcu.org
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:39] <dislo> however it shouldnt be tripping any rules right now
[05-Jul-2007 17:38:41] <MoreDakka> check the history on that router and see what is going on.
[05-Jul-2007 17:41:12] <dislo> it says it isnt pinging and then a minute later it says it is
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[05-Jul-2007 17:42:44] <MoreDakka> says it isn't pinging or failed? if you open a command prompt can you ' ping <router ip> -t ' and see if it drops any packets?
[05-Jul-2007 17:44:15] <dislo> they have all been returned in right about 30 ms
[05-Jul-2007 17:46:02] <MoreDakka> How about if you ssh into the zenoss box and ping it from there?
[05-Jul-2007 17:47:16] <dislo> that is where it is going from
[05-Jul-2007 17:48:10] <MoreDakka> ah....what does it show in the zenping logs?
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:07] <dislo> cteller is down
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:32] <MoreDakka> Do you ever get a DOWN email or just the CLEAR emails?
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:41] <dislo> just clear
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:48] <MoreDakka> strange....
[05-Jul-2007 17:49:58] <dislo> no downs i havent seen one in the two days it has been doing it
[05-Jul-2007 17:51:50] <dislo> the other odd thing is i have a production state named Production-no_warn for stuff that i dont really care about or is acting up and the router is in there but i keep on getting emails it should be below the warning level
[05-Jul-2007 17:52:50] <MoreDakka> You could try to restart the zenping and/or zenactions process to see if that will fix it.
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[05-Jul-2007 18:04:16] <dislo> ok i just reset all of zenoss
[05-Jul-2007 18:04:39] <MoreDakka> any change?
[05-Jul-2007 18:11:19] <dislo> doesnt look like it
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[05-Jul-2007 18:11:31] <MoreDakka> sam problem huh?
[05-Jul-2007 18:11:37] <MoreDakka> I have no idea then, sorry
[05-Jul-2007 18:11:41] <dislo> yeah here is a change
[05-Jul-2007 18:17:22] <dislo> now i am recieving five of them every minute
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:21] <creiht> dislo: I've done something similar
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:38] <creiht> But what I did whas create different groups
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:48] <creiht> And created alerting rules based off the groups
[05-Jul-2007 18:18:55] <creiht> So for example I have a Production group
[05-Jul-2007 18:19:07] <creiht> So that I only get alerts if the server is in the Production group
[05-Jul-2007 18:20:16] <dislo> yeah that was kind of my thought i didnt wan to put them all on one group because i dont want a text message when someone goes home for the day and shuts off their computer
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[06-Jul-2007 08:20:50] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Are you around?
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:02] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm here....
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:09] <Bulwinkle> did you ever get to my box?
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: No, I got wrapped up in a pile of work yesterday. Sorry about that.
[06-Jul-2007 08:21:35] <Bulwinkle> np
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[06-Jul-2007 10:28:13] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle, did you get the job?
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[06-Jul-2007 10:40:26] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: haven't heard anythin back
[06-Jul-2007 10:40:40] <MoreDakka> bah
[06-Jul-2007 10:40:43] <MoreDakka> those slackers
[06-Jul-2007 10:40:46] <MoreDakka> ;-)
[06-Jul-2007 10:43:30] <cluther> You can't slack and read resumes at the same time. It's a predicament.
[06-Jul-2007 10:44:42] <MoreDakka> Well you almost can. If you are by a pool drinking a nice cold drink reading resumes that can be considered as a form of slacking.
[06-Jul-2007 10:45:52] <MoreDakka> While I have your attention, can you take a look at http://moredakka.pastebin.com/942584 and tell me why the math is off for Min and Max on the Mean?
[06-Jul-2007 10:46:03] <adytum-bot> Title: moredakka private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at moredakka.pastebin.com)
[06-Jul-2007 10:47:46] <MoreDakka> srry, updated one - http://moredakka.pastebin.com/943183
[06-Jul-2007 10:47:58] <adytum-bot> Title: moredakka private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at moredakka.pastebin.com)
[06-Jul-2007 10:50:38] <cluther> At a glance that looks good to me. How is the mean off?
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[06-Jul-2007 10:57:56] <MoreDakka> the cdef doesn't seem to be doing the math correctly. I checked to make sure it's polling the same numbers (eg cdef=a CPU1 is a) and it's polling the correct #s but when I try to throw math in there it screws up. (eg CPU0=57.52, CPU1=78.78, CPU2=65.56, CPU3=89.85 |CPU Mean=64.67. Calc=72.9275)
[06-Jul-2007 11:09:23] <MoreDakka> I know it's in Cacti, but I think I remember you saying that we can get Zenoss to do this in a later version right?
[06-Jul-2007 11:32:03] <cluther> MoreDakka: This looks like a consolidation issue. You're only printing the MIN/MAX/LAST values. The only way the mean maximum would match the average of the 4 maximums is if all 4 CPUs hit their maximum at the same time.
[06-Jul-2007 11:32:23] <cluther> MoreDakka: Does that make sense?
[06-Jul-2007 11:36:49] <MoreDakka> Oh I see, because snmp probably isn't polling the same information at the same time it might be working with an old number. Is that what you mean?
[06-Jul-2007 12:27:02] <cluther> MoreDakka: I don't think so.. let me see if I can explain what I mean.
[06-Jul-2007 12:27:30] <cluther> MoreDakka: Here's the scenario. During polling cycle 1, cpu1 is at 90% and cpu2 is at 20%
[06-Jul-2007 12:28:15] <cluther> MoreDakka: During polling cycle 2, cpu1 is at 50% and cpu2 is at 80%.
[06-Jul-2007 12:28:36] <cluther> MoreDakka: The MAX of cpu1 is 90%, and the MAX of cpu2 is 80%.
[06-Jul-2007 12:30:28] <cluther> MoreDakka: When these data points get consolidated, the mean MAX of their AVERAGE becomes 60%
[06-Jul-2007 12:31:30] <cluther> MoreDakka: I think the solution would be to derive your mean MAX/MIN from the specific MIN/MAX consolidation functions of the real data point instead of the AVERAGE consolidation.
[06-Jul-2007 12:36:28] <MoreDakka> Hmmm....alright I sorta get it. I don't have a way to change that information in cacti. Can I create custom graphs like that in zenoss?
[06-Jul-2007 12:41:44] <cluther> Yeah.. you could use VDEFs to get data points when whatever consolidation function you wanted.
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[06-Jul-2007 12:58:54] <MoreDakka> I'm trying to read if vdefs can so math, doesn't look like it, or am I blind?
[06-Jul-2007 12:59:05] <MoreDakka> (ps - thnx for your help on this one)
[06-Jul-2007 12:59:31] <cluther> MoreDakka: No math.. you can use VDEFs within CDEFs though.
[06-Jul-2007 12:59:44] <MoreDakka> Ahhhh, that's cool.
[06-Jul-2007 13:00:08] <cluther> Making it possible to create RRD graphs that blow your own mind. =}
[06-Jul-2007 13:00:31] <MoreDakka> so it would be something like cdef=a,b,c,d,+,+,+,4,/ .....ehhh, thought i could think of how to do it but I dunno.
[06-Jul-2007 13:00:58] <MoreDakka> blow my mind hey? Like graphs that jump outta the screen...woh, need 3d glasses to see them properly ;-)
[06-Jul-2007 13:01:04] <cluther> heh..
[06-Jul-2007 13:01:22] <cluther> I was referring to the code, not the result.
[06-Jul-2007 13:01:50] <MoreDakka> oh...haha
[06-Jul-2007 13:04:12] <MoreDakka> Do you have an example on a vdef within cdef would look like?
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[06-Jul-2007 13:09:58] <cluther> hmm.. something like this I think.
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:00] <cluther> DEF:ds0=filename.rrd:ds0:AVERAGE
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> DEF:ds1=filename.rrd:ds1:AVERAGE
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> VDEF:ds0max=ds0,MAXIMUM
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> VDEF:ds1max=ds1,MAXIMUM
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:01] <cluther> CDEF:avgAvg=ds0,ds1,+,2,/
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:02] <cluther> CDEF:avgMax=ds0max,ds1max,+,2,/
[06-Jul-2007 13:10:35] <cluther> I really hate saying things like "average average" or "average maximum" but so is life..
[06-Jul-2007 13:11:23] <MoreDakka> Oh so it's not within the same line of the cdef formula but within the same RRD Command right?
[06-Jul-2007 13:11:54] <cluther> right, you just need to define them before you use them.
[06-Jul-2007 13:13:04] <cluther> MoreDakka: I need to drop offline for a bit.
[06-Jul-2007 13:13:18] <MoreDakka> ah right....ok, Hey, thanks for the help today :-D
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[06-Jul-2007 13:44:01] <dubie> what is the uprade process from 2.0.0 ro 2.0.2? I have FC6
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[06-Jul-2007 13:54:50] <dubie> I have FC6 with zenoss version 2.0.0. I would like to upgrade to 2.0.2 and have not been able to find and upgrade proceduce document... how do I do an upgrade?
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[06-Jul-2007 13:58:01] <Brixius> Hello, I have a question, (I'll admit I'm new to zenoss) I'm testing zenoss using the virtual appliance, and I see there was an update to fix some wmi issues, I'd like to update the virtual appliance I'm running with the 2.0.2 version but can't seem to find any instructions.
[06-Jul-2007 13:58:36] <Brixius> My question is "Are there any instructions for patching the virtual appliance with the latest version of zenoss?"
[06-Jul-2007 13:58:53] <bzed> Brixius, dubie: you both want to poke cluther
[06-Jul-2007 13:59:43] <Brixius> Oh, so I'm not the first to ask this question I take it.
[06-Jul-2007 14:00:54] <dubie> hrm
[06-Jul-2007 14:00:59] <dubie> poke?
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:07] <dubie> as opposed to slap?
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:12] <MoreDakka> cluther is gone for awhile he said
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:17] <bzed> dubie: poke is the nice variant
[06-Jul-2007 14:01:30] <MoreDakka> [11:13] <cluther> MoreDakka: I need to drop offline for a bit
[06-Jul-2007 14:16:25] <b52laptop> zenoss is based on z3 ?
[06-Jul-2007 14:17:01] <b52laptop> did know that they migrate to z3 , hm
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:15] <bzed> b52laptop: no, zope 2.9
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:17] <bzed> err
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:18] <bzed> 2.8
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:24] <bzed> the dbeian package will be based on 2.9
[06-Jul-2007 14:20:34] <b52laptop> bzed, http://www.gadoz.com/news/zenoss-support
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:07] <bzed> lol
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:27] <b52laptop> itype zenoss + zope 3 on google the first result is this site
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:45] <b52laptop> bzed, yay the fols are offering support on zenoss , ..... :d
[06-Jul-2007 14:21:55] <bzed> no wonder, they're probably the only peopel on earth tellign this weird shit
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:02] <bzed> although zenoss uses Five
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:11] <b52laptop> hm
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:17] <bzed> the compatibility product which brings zope3 features to zope 2
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:33] <bzed> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/inst/externallibs << scroll down if you don;t believe me
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:33] <adytum-bot> Title: /trunk/inst/externallibs - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[06-Jul-2007 14:22:41] <b52laptop> i believe you
[06-Jul-2007 14:23:20] <b52laptop> hm
[06-Jul-2007 14:25:44] <b52laptop> see you
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[06-Jul-2007 16:14:43] <Brixius> Are there any instructions for patching the virtual appliance with the latest version of zenoss(2.0.2)?
[06-Jul-2007 16:17:18] <creiht> Brixius: It is a virtual server, so you should be able to do it the same way you would a normal server
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[06-Jul-2007 16:58:20] <tristanbob> I really wish you had a bulk-discovery tool in the GUI - is one planned?
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[06-Jul-2007 17:05:13] <cluther_> tristanbob: You can discover networks from the GUI in 2.0.
[06-Jul-2007 17:05:54] <tristanbob> cluther: I have 2.0 VMware image, don't see it
[06-Jul-2007 17:06:06] <tristanbob> device name, do I put the network in?
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[06-Jul-2007 17:06:44] <cluther_> tristanbob: Go to the Networks view. Add a network if you need to. You'll then be able to select that Network and discover it.
[06-Jul-2007 17:07:04] <tristanbob> cluther: I'll give it a shot... thanks!
[06-Jul-2007 17:07:41] <thedude42> any of the folks who have been able to successfully get WMI working on 2.0 around?
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[06-Jul-2007 17:09:14] <cluther_> thedude42: Yes.
[06-Jul-2007 17:10:55] <thedude42> ok, i suppose my first question is whether I am to expect the zenwin, zeneventlog and zenwmimodeler daemons to not start, and throw python errors aluding to missing pywin32 components
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[06-Jul-2007 17:11:04] <thedude42> with a default installation, that is
[06-Jul-2007 17:11:19] <cluther_> thedude42: Unfortunately if you have 2.0.1, you should expect that.
[06-Jul-2007 17:11:27] <cluther_> thedude42: 2.0.2 resolves that problem.
[06-Jul-2007 17:12:10] <thedude42> i installed from source last week, is there a build-to-version table where i can check that?
[06-Jul-2007 17:13:00] <thedude42> eh, take that back... this says 2.0.0 r5824
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[06-Jul-2007 17:24:38] <thedude42> am i understanding this correctly, build 5862 starts 2.0.2?
[06-Jul-2007 17:41:43] <thedude42> so like, does the root@localhost password need to remain blank for zenoss to function properly, or just during install?
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[06-Jul-2007 19:15:39] <explody> does zenoss support fine-grained alerting rules yet? (i.e. "alert me weekdays 9-5 only")
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[06-Jul-2007 19:40:27] <thedude42> i've got it doing that
[06-Jul-2007 19:45:47] <explody> using tricks or native featires?
[06-Jul-2007 19:45:51] <explody> features*
[06-Jul-2007 19:45:53] <thedude42> native
[06-Jul-2007 19:46:18] <thedude42> the biggest pain was figuring out that on my 2.0 installationt he admin user alerts did nothing
[06-Jul-2007 19:46:32] <thedude42> so i created an additional user to set up the alerts
[06-Jul-2007 19:47:23] <thedude42> basically, create an alert rule, set those basic conditions for the alert, then create a schedule
[06-Jul-2007 19:48:04] <thedude42> under start, it will enter today's date by default, and that's fine, just set the hour of the day you want the alerting to start
[06-Jul-2007 19:48:26] <thedude42> set the duration of the alert, so for 9-5 put in 0 days 8 hours 0 minutes
[06-Jul-2007 19:48:33] <thedude42> set repeat to daily
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[06-Jul-2007 19:51:16] <dislo> hey guys i am getting five emails a minute and in my event summary i keep on getting these things that say wmi error talking to whatever device
[06-Jul-2007 19:51:37] <thedude42> is it from a windows device?
[06-Jul-2007 19:51:45] <dislo> thedude42,
[06-Jul-2007 19:51:48] <dislo> thedude42, yes
[06-Jul-2007 19:52:22] <thedude42> have you gone through the machine and checked all the WMI related stuff?
[06-Jul-2007 19:53:46] <dislo> yeah what is that and how do i check it
[06-Jul-2007 19:54:54] <thedude42> there's some stuff on one of the wmi guides for configuring the clients
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:10] <thedude42> just ignore the thing about setting up pywin configs
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:30] <dislo> ok where are the guides
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:35] <explody> thedude42: interesting, I might have to try it out again
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:54] <thedude42> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/guide-to-setting-up-zenwin/
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jul-2007 19:55:54] <thedude42> that's what i used
[06-Jul-2007 19:56:13] <thedude42> took some trial and error because it's not entirely descriptive about where you're configuring pywin32 and where you're doing windows specific stuff
[06-Jul-2007 19:56:47] <thedude42> my graphs are actually working now
[06-Jul-2007 19:56:53] <dislo> just ignore the pywin stuff right
[06-Jul-2007 19:57:15] <thedude42> right, if you have 2.0.2 installed and the windows related daemons are running
[06-Jul-2007 19:57:51] <thedude42> now i need to figure out how to get zenoss to stop trying to make wmi queries to my linux machines
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:05] <thedude42> and network devices
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:25] <dislo> well i was just about to ask is there a way to just turn wmi off
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:30] <thedude42> ah ha
[06-Jul-2007 19:58:54] <thedude42> yeah, i'm about to discover how i think
[06-Jul-2007 19:59:05] <dislo> cool cool
[06-Jul-2007 20:00:14] <thedude42> ok, in 5 minutes i'll have an answer
[06-Jul-2007 20:00:41] <thedude42> hm, sooner... that didn't work
[06-Jul-2007 20:01:48] <thedude42> well, it kinda worked
[06-Jul-2007 20:03:23] <thedude42> maybe it did work and i didn't wait long enough....
[06-Jul-2007 20:03:49] <thedude42> ok, i'm basically thinking that zproperties is where it's at
[06-Jul-2007 20:03:59] <thedude42> dislo, have you looked there yet?
[06-Jul-2007 20:07:53] <dislo> yeah i have and i think i have it set up not to check
[06-Jul-2007 20:07:58] <dislo> however i am not sure
[06-Jul-2007 20:08:17] <thedude42> well, have you dropped devices in to groups of any kind?
[06-Jul-2007 20:10:25] <dislo> what do you mean like location or groups or something like that
[06-Jul-2007 20:10:39] <thedude42> right, or type of device
[06-Jul-2007 20:15:55] <thedude42> well, i got the linux servers devices to stop getting polled for WMI
[06-Jul-2007 20:16:07] <dislo> how did you do that
[06-Jul-2007 20:16:36] <thedude42> went to /servers/linux and set wmiignore to true
[06-Jul-2007 20:16:54] <thedude42> deleted the local settings i had changed on each device as well
[06-Jul-2007 20:34:15] <dislo> ok well i tried that but i am still not having any luck
[06-Jul-2007 20:35:17] <dislo> well all of the emails are saying that it is clear but i never get any that say it is down or something like that
[06-Jul-2007 20:37:06] <thedude42> yup
[06-Jul-2007 20:38:52] <thedude42> don't forget to refresh the event schema
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[06-Jul-2007 20:52:05] <dislo> how do i refresh my event schema
[06-Jul-2007 20:52:28] <thedude42> go to event manager at the bottom of the left column menu
[06-Jul-2007 20:52:50] <thedude42> the main click menu there
[06-Jul-2007 20:52:59] <thedude42> next to edit
[06-Jul-2007 20:53:25] <thedude42> mine finally stopped
[06-Jul-2007 20:57:31] <dislo> alright well we will find out what happens
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[06-Jul-2007 21:00:41] <thedude42> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired.
[06-Jul-2007 21:00:46] <thedude42> this is killing me
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[07-Jul-2007 10:22:41] <Lascaille> anyone about?
[07-Jul-2007 10:24:30] <Lascaille> I am trying to find out how to graph a calculated snmp value
[07-Jul-2007 10:24:52] <Lascaille> like, memory used minus buffers minus cached
[07-Jul-2007 10:25:29] <Lascaille> so I want to retrieve the three OIDS and then perform a calculation on them... then graph that
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:00] <Lascaille> god, or
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:05] <Lascaille> where are the tables kept on the filesystem?
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:16] <Lascaille> as I've managed to put a degree symbol in a RRD template and it's killed the whole template
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:28] <Lascaille> templates kept eve
[07-Jul-2007 10:58:29] <Lascaille> n
[07-Jul-2007 10:59:10] <knutin> usually in the rra subdir of your cacti installation
[07-Jul-2007 10:59:17] <knutin> if you haven't changed it
[07-Jul-2007 11:00:23] <Lascaille> hmm
[07-Jul-2007 11:00:34] <Lascaille> now where would that be? I just did standard install from source, centos
[07-Jul-2007 11:00:49] <Lascaille> I am digging through /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Jul-2007 11:02:35] <knutin> oh, sorry
[07-Jul-2007 11:02:40] <knutin> I thought I was in the cacti channel
[07-Jul-2007 11:02:41] <knutin>
[07-Jul-2007 11:03:25] <Lascaille> hmm this is arse
[07-Jul-2007 11:03:34] <Lascaille> I knew that degree symbol was gonna cause trouble
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[07-Jul-2007 12:01:35] <Lascaille> anyone know where the device templates are stored?
[07-Jul-2007 12:17:29] <thedude42> good question... haven't looked but i have a mind to
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[07-Jul-2007 12:56:51] <Lascaille> well I think they're not
[07-Jul-2007 12:56:55] <Lascaille> I can't find them
[07-Jul-2007 12:57:03] <Lascaille> and it's a pain as I need to delete one
[07-Jul-2007 12:59:34] <thedude42> well, i highly doubt they are generated magically
[07-Jul-2007 12:59:48] <Lascaille> sure
[07-Jul-2007 12:59:54] <Lascaille> but I don't think they're files
[07-Jul-2007 13:00:18] <thedude42> yeah, good point... might be a table in mysql
[07-Jul-2007 13:09:28] <Lascaille> not in the events database
[07-Jul-2007 13:09:34] <Lascaille> got no idea myself
[07-Jul-2007 13:09:49] <thedude42> hm
[07-Jul-2007 13:10:09] <thedude42> wonder if it's in nagios
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[07-Jul-2007 15:15:57] <cluther> thedude42:
[07-Jul-2007 15:16:06] <cluther> thedude42: Still around? Wonder if what is in Nagios?
[07-Jul-2007 15:29:56] <bzed> cluther: they were wondering where the device templates are stored
[07-Jul-2007 15:33:35] <cluther> ah.. the ZEODB.
[07-Jul-2007 15:34:07] <cluther> If you add them to a ZenPack they get exported into the ZenPack's objects.xml file.
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[07-Jul-2007 16:17:20] <Lascaille> anyone about?
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[07-Jul-2007 18:25:11] <Lascaille> yo
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[08-Jul-2007 00:57:44] <|den|> hi all
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[08-Jul-2007 06:12:53] <|den|> hi, does anybody install v 2.0.2? I have same problems there
[08-Jul-2007 06:13:12] <|den|> *some problems
[08-Jul-2007 06:28:47] <|den|> hello .... is anybody here?
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[08-Jul-2007 08:46:47] <Lascaille> anyone here?
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[08-Jul-2007 10:32:07] <Mohan> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2641&sid=e347382436dec969c83d0dd28e65cdb4
[08-Jul-2007 10:32:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problems with 2.0.2, starting daemons... (at community.zenoss.com)
[08-Jul-2007 10:32:39] <Mohan> anybody having problems with starting all the daemons in 2.0.1 or 2.0.2?
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[09-Jul-2007 06:33:39] <aspid> hi
[09-Jul-2007 06:34:21] <aspid> i need help with mib import to zenoss in fedora core
[09-Jul-2007 06:34:35] <aspid> can someone help me?
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[09-Jul-2007 07:29:58] <iscream> hy all
[09-Jul-2007 07:30:12] <iscream> can sbody help me pls?
[09-Jul-2007 07:30:50] <iscream> hy
[09-Jul-2007 07:37:05] <bzed> chances for that rise if you ask a proper question in PROPER english.
[09-Jul-2007 07:39:43] <iscream> ok
[09-Jul-2007 07:39:47] <iscream> thank u
[09-Jul-2007 07:40:02] <iscream> so i would like to monitor some filesystem with zenoss core
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:05] <iscream> i added a device, a windows xp Pc and some info-s are there at the right place
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:31] <iscream> and some arent there anywher for example disk usage and %
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:38] <iscream> i googled all the time
[09-Jul-2007 07:41:47] <iscream> and tried out the solutions but nothing helped me
[09-Jul-2007 07:42:42] <iscream> how could i fix it?:S
[09-Jul-2007 07:43:46] <bzed> uh windows. not using that since at least 10 years. but you could wait for cluther to come in the chat again, he should be able to tell you
[09-Jul-2007 07:44:15] <iscream> and the second question have you an example howto create an alert when a hard disk usage is up to 90%? with thresholds? i have the threshold, and how to add to an event or an alert?
[09-Jul-2007 07:44:48] <iscream> cluther? thank you - i hate windows too, but my boss.... you know...
[09-Jul-2007 07:44:59] <bzed> that's mentioned in the admin guide
you wanna read that[09-Jul-2007 07:45:10] <bzed> at least you need a non-admin user to setup alerts
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[09-Jul-2007 07:46:19] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 07:46:20] <iscream> i see
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[09-Jul-2007 07:48:46] <iscream> i use vmware and i downloaded the zenoss-2.0.0-x86.vmware appliance, i guess it isnt any problem:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:48:54] <iscream> it hase an rpath linux on it i guess
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[09-Jul-2007 07:50:27] <iscream> bzed : can you tell me the procedure step-by-step for monitoring...?:P for example, first i make threshold, after thet event and after theese the alert, or how?
[09-Jul-2007 07:50:29] <iscream> hy cluther
[09-Jul-2007 07:50:42] <iscream> cluther : i would have a question for you too, if you dont mind
[09-Jul-2007 07:51:21] <cluther> iscream: I don't. What's up?
[09-Jul-2007 07:51:53] <iscream> i added a device to my zenoss, a windows xp Pc and some info-s are there at the right place
[09-Jul-2007 07:52:02] <iscream> for example the filesystem info-s
[09-Jul-2007 07:52:11] <iscream> and i havent got any perf. graph:S
[09-Jul-2007 07:53:01] <iscream> i added localhost, to test the zenoss, and in the 'localhost' case its ok, i have graphs and everything
[09-Jul-2007 07:53:58] <cluther> iscream: By default Windows systems need the SNMP Informant MIB extension installed to get graphs. (http://www.snmp-informant.com/)
[09-Jul-2007 07:53:58] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[09-Jul-2007 07:54:02] <iscream> yeah ,i got it
[09-Jul-2007 07:54:39] <iscream> after i installed it to the xp pc, there was the list of the programs on it and so on
[09-Jul-2007 07:54:42] <cluther> Is you Windows device in the /Server/Windows device class?
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:11] <iscream> but in the OS tab the disk usage% and free memory or free space is unknown and my hardware processor too
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:16] <iscream> yes
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:30] <cluther> How long ago did you add the device?
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:30] <iscream> first it was in the ping class, after that i changed it
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:37] <iscream> about 2hours
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:50] <iscream> i read about it takes about 30-35minutes to have a graph
[09-Jul-2007 07:55:56] <iscream> or restart zenoss processes
[09-Jul-2007 07:56:46] <iscream> nt Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[09-Jul-2007 07:56:47] <iscream> C:\ Label: Serial Number f04c4e97 74.5GB unknown unknown unknown
[09-Jul-2007 07:56:50] <iscream> i have this
[09-Jul-2007 07:57:16] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 07:57:36] <iscream> the graphs appeared:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:57:52] <cluther> Good. =}
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:08] <iscream> ooo you are my man:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:15] <bzed> iscream: cluther IS the man
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:16] <bzed>
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:17] <cluther> It wouldn't have started collecting the graph data points until you moved it into the right class.
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[09-Jul-2007 07:58:22] <iscream> and you too bzed:P
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:24] <cluther> hah.. I didn't do anything.
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:31] <iscream> so
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:45] <iscream> my last (but i guess the longest) question
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:46] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:57] <bzed> cluther: wait tuntil I've fixed a bunch of patches, then I'll bug you
[09-Jul-2007 07:58:58] <iscream> are you prepaired?:)
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:11] <cluther> As I'll ever be.
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:30] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:40] <iscream> i have the graphs
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:46] <iscream> but its still nt Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:46] <iscream> C:\ Label: Serial Number f04c4e97 74.5GB unknown unknown unknown
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:49] <iscream> in the os tab
[09-Jul-2007 07:59:59] <iscream> will it be changing? whats your guess?
[09-Jul-2007 08:00:27] <cluther> It'll be populated. Be patient.
[09-Jul-2007 08:00:32] <iscream> okay
[09-Jul-2007 08:00:33] <iscream> so
[09-Jul-2007 08:01:23] <iscream> i havent used zenoss or any of the monitoring systems, but my new boss told me i have to do some things
[09-Jul-2007 08:01:26] <iscream> for example
[09-Jul-2007 08:02:09] <iscream> if in the network some PC-s/Server/ect -s connection is lost, then raise an alert, or email or something
[09-Jul-2007 08:02:33] <iscream> how can i do it?
[09-Jul-2007 08:03:18] <cluther> That would be the alerting rules. Chapter 15 of the Admin Guide.
[09-Jul-2007 08:03:27] <iscream> very nice:)
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:11] <cluther> Something that the admin guide doesn't mention..
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:21] <iscream> and i lost the line in the guide when it explains me about Monitoring A File System and Changing a Threshold
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:26] <cluther> Don't add alerting rules to the standard "admin" user. They won't do anything. Create real users first.
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:52] <iscream> so
[09-Jul-2007 08:04:59] <iscream> i log in as a zenoss user
[09-Jul-2007 08:05:02] <iscream> and then i make alerts?
[09-Jul-2007 08:05:45] <cluther> Typically you would create yourself a user account and assign it the Manager role since you are the Zenoss admin.
[09-Jul-2007 08:05:57] <iscream> yes i have done it
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:05] <cluther> Then you can click on your "Preferences" up in the top right.. go to the Alerting Rules tab.. etc.
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:16] <iscream> but i thought its egal if i am a manager role user or an admin
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:45] <iscream> ok, i got it
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:47] <cluther> alerting rules work for all users no matter what their role. The only exception is the special "admin" user using only that name.
[09-Jul-2007 08:06:58] <iscream> and there can i add filters, am i right?
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:02] <cluther> That's right.
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:24] <iscream> the next question will be very silly i guess:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:40] <iscream> but i cannot find example filter usage filter:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:07:53] <bzed> cluther: wanna fix somethign on the fly? ZenModel/zenbuild.py has a redundant check for ZENHOME. one check on top of the file should be enough imho
[09-Jul-2007 08:09:02] <bzed> it's time to get rid of ZENHOME anyway
[09-Jul-2007 08:09:49] <cluther> bzed: My python may be weak, but I don't even see how the first ZENHOME check would ever be reached.
[09-Jul-2007 08:09:56] <cluther> nevermind..
[09-Jul-2007 08:10:12] <cluther> The one in __init__ should be sufficient.
[09-Jul-2007 08:10:34] <cluther> What do you propose replacing ZENHOME with? Hard code it into a script?
[09-Jul-2007 08:12:21] <bzed> cluther: I'd leave the one on top, in case somebody add some code you want to import without instanciating the class
[09-Jul-2007 08:12:24] <iscream> cluther : how can i write in in the alerts tab which we mentioned up, that i want an alarm example when the processor's temperature is 55celsius
[09-Jul-2007 08:12:49] <bzed> cluther: although I didn;t read the file again, I've just looked at my patch
[09-Jul-2007 08:14:32] <cluther> iscream: You need to think about it differently. You don't configure thresholds inside of alerting rules, you configure them as thresholds on performance templates.
[09-Jul-2007 08:14:37] <bzed> cluther: that's nto too complicated for python. you create a zenoss module while installing, which contains all neccessary informations. and you just import that in all py stuff. it has to be isntalled in pythons sys.path, but that's not complicated at all.
[09-Jul-2007 08:15:05] <cluther> bzed: What if you wanted two instances of Zenoss on the same system?
[09-Jul-2007 08:16:22] <bzed> cluther: install the config somewhere under the zope instance, there's stuff from there added to the python path for zope anyway
[09-Jul-2007 08:16:55] <iscream> cluther: ok, than how could i do the example . can you tell me from the beginning step-by-step?:S:(
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[09-Jul-2007 08:18:27] <cluther> iscream: The first step would be figuring out how to get your CPU's temperature. Do you know what the SNMP OID is?
[09-Jul-2007 08:19:06] <bzed> cluther: the problem is that there're people out there like me who are working on packaging zenoss for ${linux,bsd}-distribution, and at the moment it's pain in the ass to do it, becuase of all those random $ZENOSS. and os.getent..., os.eviron... I'll contact ead with a proper suggestion on how to solve that, first I need to get out debian package workign again
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[09-Jul-2007 08:21:29] <iscream> cluther : what is it?:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:22:01] <iscream> ohh
[09-Jul-2007 08:22:10] <iscream> ok
[09-Jul-2007 08:22:22] <iscream> i found it
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:00] <iscream> and what have i got to do with it?
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:02] <iscream> or maybe
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:07] <iscream> an easier problem
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:19] <iscream> alert me if the usage is 95%
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:22] <iscream> how could i do it?
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:28] <cluther> What usage?
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:33] <iscream> hard disk:P
[09-Jul-2007 08:23:42] <iscream> or processor
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[09-Jul-2007 08:24:33] <cluther> Let's just use CPU is the example on your windows server..
[09-Jul-2007 08:24:43] <cluther> I need to finish my coffee. =}
[09-Jul-2007 08:25:13] <iscream> ok, im very patient, especially someone helps me:) take your time:)
[09-Jul-2007 08:25:21] <cluther> Go to /Devices/Server/Windows and click on the Templates tab.
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[09-Jul-2007 08:25:43] <cluther> You'll see one of the templates is named "Device" click on it.
[09-Jul-2007 08:25:43] <iscream> yeah
[09-Jul-2007 08:26:03] <cluther> In the list of thresholds you should see one called "CPU Utilization over 90"
[09-Jul-2007 08:26:16] <iscream> yeah
[09-Jul-2007 08:26:19] <iscream> i have only that
[09-Jul-2007 08:27:06] <cluther> The severity is "Warning" and the escalate count is 5. What this means that if your CPU utilization goes above 90% it will generate an event of warning severity, and if it stays over 90% for 5 polls, it will generate an escalated event of error severity.
[09-Jul-2007 08:27:34] <cluther> If you click on the threshold, you can see that the "Event Class" is set to /Perf/CPU.
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:27] <cluther> If you wanted to setup an alerting rule for these specific threshold violations, you could add "Event Class = /Perf/CPU" to the filter.
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:29] <iscream> yeah
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:42] <iscream> after that?
[09-Jul-2007 08:28:55] <cluther> Nothing.. that's it.
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:06] <iscream> i enable it
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:12] <iscream> and thats all?
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:18] <cluther> yes.
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:38] <bzed> cluther: btw, why would anybody liek to run more than one zenoss instance on a computer? that calls for trouble anyway
[09-Jul-2007 08:29:47] <cluther> Well... make sure your "SMTP server" and "From address" are setup under Settings.
[09-Jul-2007 08:30:24] <iscream> cluther:and from now on if the cpu reaches 90% and goes it would give me a warning?
[09-Jul-2007 08:31:11] <cluther> iscream: If you alerting rule was set to Severity >= Warning, you'd get the alert immediately.. if it was set to Severity >= Error, you'd only get the alert once the escalation of the threshold was reached.
[09-Jul-2007 08:31:14] <cluther> iscream: Makes sense?
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:04] <cluther> bzed: I run lots of instances for my purposes..
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:17] <iscream> cluther : i think i got it
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:31] <cluther> bzed: I'm sure you know that someone will always do that thing that "Why would someone ever ..." thing.
[09-Jul-2007 08:32:44] <cluther> gah.. english has escaped me.
[09-Jul-2007 08:33:15] <iscream> sry for my english, i'm from hungary:S
[09-Jul-2007 08:33:29] <bzed> cluther: sure, but even than gettig rid of ZENHOME woudl work in large parts and make live for easy
[09-Jul-2007 08:35:21] <bzed> cluther: running more than one instance is not complicated - it's zope. but you still don;t need to do $ZENHOME-weirdness
[09-Jul-2007 08:35:38] <cluther> bzed: Using the FSSTND sounds like a lovely idea at first, but I shudder when I think about the dependency problems that would crop up.
[09-Jul-2007 08:36:38] <bzed> cluther: if you write a proper script to configure everyting you can stilld ecide if you want to use /opt/foo and put everythign in there or jsut / and get it right
[09-Jul-2007 08:37:00] <iscream> cluther : and how can i make an error when in the company's inner network one of the router/switch is dead? to notify the admin/user that its something wrong whit that part of the network...?
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[09-Jul-2007 08:37:59] <bzed> iscream: usually you don;t need that because the admin doesn;t have internet anymore, so they'll go and look on their own *g*
[09-Jul-2007 08:38:07] <cluther> heh..
[09-Jul-2007 08:38:25] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 08:38:50] <cluther> iscream: You really don't need to tackle each of the instances on its own. The best way to figure all of this out is to simulate failures, look at the events that are created then setup your alerting rules to match these events.
[09-Jul-2007 08:39:15] <cluther> iscream: Or do what most people do.. create a single alerting rule that sends all Severity >= Error events to you.
[09-Jul-2007 08:40:33] <iscream> ok
[09-Jul-2007 08:42:02] <bzed> iscream: or create a mailinglist/mail alias for that, usually the person who should take care of it doesn;t read their mail NOW becuase they're drinking coffee or are on holidays, so somebody else can take care of it
[09-Jul-2007 08:42:27] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:00] <bzed> here we have one imap folderfor all admins
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:26] <bzed> or you're crazy and feed it into a ticketing system O_o
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:34] <iscream>
[09-Jul-2007 08:43:37] <iscream> i dont think so:D
[09-Jul-2007 08:44:42] <iscream> thank you for everything
[09-Jul-2007 08:45:15] <iscream> i hope i can do it:)
[09-Jul-2007 08:45:20] <iscream> and so my boss hopes:P
[09-Jul-2007 08:46:18] <iscream> byebye all!
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[09-Jul-2007 09:45:39] <Bulwinkle> 'morning cluther
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[09-Jul-2007 09:46:43] <cluther> Morning, Bulwinkle.
[09-Jul-2007 09:49:17] <Bulwinkle> cluther: seems like some of my utilization graphs aren't working on my Catalys switches running CatOS
[09-Jul-2007 09:50:09] <cluther> Getting NaNs or no graphs at all?
[09-Jul-2007 09:51:24] <Bulwinkle> no graphs at all
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[09-Jul-2007 09:55:07] <cluther> hmm.. that'd mean that no graphs are defined in the Device template for the class. What device class are they in?
[09-Jul-2007 09:55:32] <Bulwinkle> Devices/Network/Switch/Cisco
[09-Jul-2007 09:56:02] <cluther> If you go to the Templates tab of that class and to the Device template are any graphs defined?
[09-Jul-2007 09:56:09] <Bulwinkle> Yeppers
[09-Jul-2007 09:56:53] <cluther> ok, on the Perf tab for the CatOS device.. do you get the graph navigation controls? < > zoom in/out?
[09-Jul-2007 09:57:50] <Bulwinkle> Nope
[09-Jul-2007 09:57:56] <Bulwinkle> Nothing on the Perf tab
[09-Jul-2007 09:58:17] <cluther> Weird. Does the device have it's own local Device template?
[09-Jul-2007 09:59:22] <Bulwinkle> nope... shares it with /Devices
[09-Jul-2007 10:03:35] <cluther> Ah.. now that makes sense.
[09-Jul-2007 10:03:47] <cluther> The Device template at /Devices only collects sysUpTime.. no graphs.
[09-Jul-2007 10:04:31] <cluther> Try copying the Device template from /Network/Router/Cisco to /Network/Switch/Cisco.
[09-Jul-2007 10:06:18] <Bulwinkle> how about the interface graphs?
[09-Jul-2007 10:08:32] <cluther> Those will be inherited properly since they're so generic.
[09-Jul-2007 10:11:44] <Bulwinkle> The graphs are working for the IOS switches, just not for the CatOS
[09-Jul-2007 10:11:57] <Bulwinkle> (Interface graphs)
[09-Jul-2007 10:12:58] <cluther> That's odd. Are you looking at an interface that is up/up?
[09-Jul-2007 10:13:06] <Bulwinkle> yeppers....
[09-Jul-2007 10:13:25] <Bulwinkle> the graphs controls are showing up
[09-Jul-2007 10:15:08] <bzed> cluther: does zenoss use/need the winexe binary?
[09-Jul-2007 10:15:51] <bzed> as fas as I can see iy only uses pycom/pywmi
[09-Jul-2007 10:16:09] <cluther> Not for normal operations. It's a utility for remote command execution.. for user commands or event-driven commands.
[09-Jul-2007 10:16:40] <bzed> ah ok, thought so
[09-Jul-2007 10:22:51] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I think you're being bitten by a bug. Try applying this patch: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/5858
[09-Jul-2007 10:22:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Changeset 5858 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[09-Jul-2007 10:22:54] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Then restart zenoss.
[09-Jul-2007 10:26:44] <Bulwinkle> cluther: restarting now'
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[09-Jul-2007 10:54:14] <Bulwinkle> cluther: that had an interesting effect
[09-Jul-2007 10:54:21] <MoreDakka> haha
[09-Jul-2007 10:54:41] <Bulwinkle> now all my interface names are back to X/Y not FastEthernet X/Y
[09-Jul-2007 10:55:13] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I'm pretty sure that's the only way CatOS knows them.
[09-Jul-2007 10:55:22] <Bulwinkle> okay
[09-Jul-2007 10:55:26] <cluther> Bulwinkle: IOS has the long FastEthernet#/# names.
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[09-Jul-2007 11:15:37] <bzed> cluther: how long does it ususally take until the first perf graphs of localhost appear?
[09-Jul-2007 11:17:24] <cluther> 15 minutes
[09-Jul-2007 11:17:49] * bzed gets popcorn
[09-Jul-2007 11:19:43] <bzed> cluther: do you ahve chris around somewhere? would be cool if he could package zenplugins to 2.0.2.1 with the copyright fixes
[09-Jul-2007 11:21:53] <cluther> I'll be over there a bit later. I'll mention it to him.
[09-Jul-2007 11:23:25] <bzed> cluther: awesome, thanks. and say thanks to him for fixing that in 5 minutes
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[09-Jul-2007 11:46:39] <bzed> cluther: do I assume right that zenperfsnmp collects the statistic data and creates the graphs?
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:01] <cluther> bzed: It collects the data and stores it into RRD files.
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:11] <bzed> cluther: in the perf directory?
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:14] <cluther> bzed: yeah
[09-Jul-2007 11:47:30] <bzed> hmm, there was only a Devices folder created, but nothing else...
[09-Jul-2007 11:48:12] <bzed> the log is emppty unfortunately
[09-Jul-2007 11:49:06] <cluther> The zenperfsnmp.log is empty? That shouldn't be..
[09-Jul-2007 11:49:09] <cluther> Is it running?
[09-Jul-2007 11:49:55] <bzed> yeah, it is
[09-Jul-2007 11:52:53] <bzed> I'm stracing it at the moment, looks kinda weird
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:05] <bzed> Jul 9 17:18:55 hal snmpd[7219]: Connection from UDP: [127.0.0.1]:-32726
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:12] <bzed> that's int he syslog, whatever it means
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:23] * bzed goes to kick snmpd
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:43] <bzed> cluther: does it need snmpd on tcp and udp?
[09-Jul-2007 11:54:53] <cluther> bzed: Only udp
[09-Jul-2007 11:55:19] <bzed> but autodiscover usus tcp?
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[09-Jul-2007 12:03:12] <cluther> bzed: SNMP autodiscovery uses UDP.
[09-Jul-2007 12:03:55] <bzed> ah that's probably also the reason why it DOSes large networks
[09-Jul-2007 12:04:55] <bzed> anyway, I'll give it another try with my linksys wrt54g, probably debian's snmpd is jst fucked up and does't tell anything useful
[09-Jul-2007 12:09:03] <creiht> bzed: You do have to change the snmpd.conf for it to report useful information
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[09-Jul-2007 12:09:43] <bzed> creiht: do you have a working example around?
[09-Jul-2007 12:09:48] <junix|work> is there a version for Debian STable out??
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:02] <bzed> junix|work: no, experimental in a few days hopefully
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:07] <junix|work> cool
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:25] <bzed> junix|work: if you ahve time and a box running unstable/testing you can test it in an hour or so
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:53] <creiht> bzed: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[09-Jul-2007 12:10:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2007 12:11:19] <bzed> junix|work: I need to add a few little fixes first
[09-Jul-2007 12:11:43] <bzed> creiht: that looks like the example which is shipped with zenoss and which I'm using at the moment
[09-Jul-2007 12:12:07] <creiht> hrm.. Well that should report the right info then
[09-Jul-2007 12:12:08] <junix|work> how hard is it to compile on a Debian Stable system, is it as easy say....nagios?\
[09-Jul-2007 12:13:47] <bzed> junix|work: we will provide backported packages
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:04] <junix|work> ok...
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:10] <junix|work> but if i wanted to compile it myself...
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:12] <junix|work> how hard is it?
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:13] <bzed> you could install the tarball as shipped from zenoss, there's a howto in the forum - I can give you a link to it if you want
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:21] <junix|work> is it a pain like zabbix?
[09-Jul-2007 12:14:53] <bzed> it's not too complicated, but more easy is waiting for us of course
[09-Jul-2007 12:16:00] <junix|work> how much longer till backports?
[09-Jul-2007 12:16:25] <bzed> hard to say
[09-Jul-2007 12:17:12] <bzed> as we have to backport about.. uhm... 10 packages or so.. that will take some time, and the main package is not finished yet, and not in debian
[09-Jul-2007 12:17:15] <bzed> (yet)
[09-Jul-2007 12:17:58] <bzed> I think it'll go into unstable before august
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[09-Jul-2007 12:18:21] <bzed> depending on how fast the ftpo masters are
[09-Jul-2007 12:18:25] <junix|work> bzed: i may need it before then
[09-Jul-2007 12:18:41] <bzed> i need it since months
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:06] <junix|work> i know
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:33] <bzed> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1551&highlight= could be useful if you want to install it without packages
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Installing on Debian etch using mostly native packages (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2007 12:19:33] <bzed> not sure how that works with 2.0 though
[09-Jul-2007 12:21:12] <bzed> junix|work: otherwise if you have time to test and probably debug our pacakge for debian, chances are reaylly good that we'll be faster
[09-Jul-2007 12:22:14] <bzed> https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-zenoss/
[09-Jul-2007 12:22:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Alioth: Zenoss Packaging Team: Project Info (at alioth.debian.org)
[09-Jul-2007 12:22:33] <junix|work> i could do that...
[09-Jul-2007 12:25:31] <junix|work> bzed: how does it do autodiscovery? SNMP?
[09-Jul-2007 12:26:13] <bzed> not absolutely sure about that, at least there's some snmp udp involved
[09-Jul-2007 12:26:26] <junix|work> bzed: have you ever dealt with troubleticketexpress?
[09-Jul-2007 12:26:52] <bzed> I wanted to test it at the debian conference, but /16 is way too large for autodiscovery, it'll just be a DOS on your own computer and the network
[09-Jul-2007 12:27:00] <bzed> troubleticketexpress? no
[09-Jul-2007 12:27:05] <junix|work> k
[09-Jul-2007 12:28:34] <bzed> I'd use http://otrs.org/ as ticketing system
[09-Jul-2007 12:28:34] <adytum-bot> Title: OTRS::Email Management::Trouble Ticket System::Welcome! (at otrs.org)
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[09-Jul-2007 12:33:12] <junix|work> thanks
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[09-Jul-2007 12:40:24] <bzed> cluther: time for the next blocker bug
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[09-Jul-2007 12:59:01] <jshadow> I have a Windows server, which I am able to snmpwalk from the zenoss interface, but it keeps popping up with a "snmp agent down event", any idea why this might be?
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[09-Jul-2007 14:47:47] <litein> I am currently using the VM Appliance 1.1.1. How can I back up my data and move it to the VM appliance 2.0
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[09-Jul-2007 16:34:33] <tty01> anyone know if there is a way to recover a template i accidently deleted?
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[09-Jul-2007 16:35:33] <scrip> anyone here with knoledge of the nagios plugin interface?
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[09-Jul-2007 16:56:53] <cluther> Quiet today..
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[09-Jul-2007 16:57:02] <cluther> scrip: What do you want to know about the plugin interface?
[09-Jul-2007 16:57:14] <scrip> it seems to be truncating the performance data that the plugin returns
[09-Jul-2007 16:57:39] <scrip> nagios docs say it has a 4kb limit, I'm not returning anything nerarly that large, I'm returning a little under 1kb
[09-Jul-2007 16:57:52] <scrip> but zenoss seems to have a different idea about the acceptable length
[09-Jul-2007 16:59:27] <cluther> hmm.. if you run zencommand with logseverity set to 10 it will print the output of the command.
[09-Jul-2007 16:59:39] <cluther> zencommand run -v 10 --device=yourdevice
[09-Jul-2007 17:00:41] <scrip> yeah, I've tried that
[09-Jul-2007 17:00:50] <scrip> and I can see it say that its saving values to an rrd file
[09-Jul-2007 17:00:57] <scrip> and some of those never show up in the graph
[09-Jul-2007 17:03:24] <cluther> scrip: So all of the output you'd expect to see is there?
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:00] <scrip> yeah, all the output I expect
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:17] <scrip> storing current_standard_asr_line1 = 100 in /Devices/blah blahblah
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:34] <scrip> but on the perf tab for that device, I don't see any graphs, nothing
[09-Jul-2007 17:08:40] <scrip> no empty graphs, just nothing
[09-Jul-2007 17:09:08] <cluther> scrip: It may be a stupid question, but you have defined a graph that uses that data point, correct?
[09-Jul-2007 17:09:24] <scrip> yeah, it works on SOME of the devices I'm monitoring
[09-Jul-2007 17:10:03] <scrip> the perf template is for the entire device class, and works for some of the devices
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[09-Jul-2007 17:10:39] <cluther> Is it possible that some of the devices have local performance templates overriding the one on the device class?
[09-Jul-2007 17:10:58] <bzed> cluther: is there any fast way to see if zenperfsnmpd receives any proper data (as in: the rrd generation fails) or if it there's something missing? there's no log, nothing
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[09-Jul-2007 17:11:36] <cluther> bzed: You can run it with debugging output in the foreground: "zenperfsnmp run -v 10"
[09-Jul-2007 17:11:57] <bzed> sounds good, will do so
[09-Jul-2007 17:12:25] <scrip> cluther: nope, all the devices were added in an automated fashion
[09-Jul-2007 17:13:49] <cluther> scrip: Can you look in your $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/devicename/ directory to see if the rrd files exist and if they have a current timestamp?
[09-Jul-2007 17:16:01] <cluther> I have to run..
[09-Jul-2007 17:16:32] <scrip> yeah, the rrd files are there and have current timestamps
[09-Jul-2007 17:16:44] <scrip> and theres lots of old rrds too, from old configs
[09-Jul-2007 17:17:05] <scrip> which log would have any errors form the webinterface? zopectl?
[09-Jul-2007 17:17:53] <cluther> event.log
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[09-Jul-2007 17:19:12] <scrip> is there any reason the graph rendering functions would be failing? like If I changed part of the RRD config or something?
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[09-Jul-2007 17:31:29] <scrip> so, why would the graphs not show up when the rrd files are in place?
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[09-Jul-2007 18:16:58] <markl__> ok total n00b here - I set up snmpd and had zenoss try to detect my server, but the tabs other than "status" are all empty
[09-Jul-2007 18:17:13] <markl__> centos5/rhel5 everywhere
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[09-Jul-2007 18:36:18] <markl__> appendix 23 of user manual
[09-Jul-2007 18:36:40] <markl__> has the snmp.conf mod to make to allow zenoss to see everything.
[09-Jul-2007 18:36:43] <markl__> thanks
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[09-Jul-2007 19:04:37] <bzed> cluther_: still around?
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[09-Jul-2007 19:17:26] <scrip> whoo hoo! zenoss is working for me!
[09-Jul-2007 19:17:32] <scrip> tracking >100 devices!
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[10-Jul-2007 00:14:48] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - It's Been a Long Time - 03 Jul, 09:04PM
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[10-Jul-2007 03:27:28] <iscream> hi all
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[10-Jul-2007 04:06:22] <iscream> hi all
[10-Jul-2007 04:07:59] <iscream> can somebody help me with this error? (WMI talking to PC : com_error(121) : DOS code 0x00000079)
[10-Jul-2007 04:08:22] <iscream> it appears in the event console
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[10-Jul-2007 04:32:24] <iscream> hey bzed:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:32:55] <bzed> heya
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:04] <bzed> where's cluther when yiu nee dhim
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:16] <iscream> donno:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:24] <iscream> but its ok, i can wait
[10-Jul-2007 04:33:24] <bzed> and I need coffee, too many typos in one line
[10-Jul-2007 04:34:06] <iscream> i have a strange event ... event: WMI talking to PC ; eventsummary : com_error(121) DOS code 0x00000079.
[10-Jul-2007 04:34:34] <iscream> bzed: where are you from?
[10-Jul-2007 04:34:45] <bzed> germany
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:03] <iscream> then its half past 10 too, right?:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:15] <bzed> yes
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:30] <iscream> and you need coffe at this time?:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:35] <bzed> for sure
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:39] <iscream> when did you get up?:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:47] <bzed> 5 minutes ago
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:49] <iscream> ohh
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:53] <bzed> because I want to bed 7 hours ago
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:54] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:56] <bzed> *went
[10-Jul-2007 04:35:58] <iscream> thats its allowed:)
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:19] <bzed> because I worked on the debian package of zenoss until something around 3am
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:22] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:32] <iscream> and have you finished it?
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:34] <bzed> about 15 hours yesterday
[10-Jul-2007 04:36:36] <bzed> almost
[10-Jul-2007 04:37:17] <bzed> we found another bunch of messed up copyrights which make it not distributeable for debian, but the zenoss guys are usually pretty fast in fixing them
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[10-Jul-2007 04:38:15] <iscream> i wanted to isntall zenoss to my vmware-->ubuntu server, but it crashed everytime at something python error, when i used python 2.4 its too old i guess, but it isnt support python2.5 i guess
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:39] <iscream> after that i used the vmware appliance
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:42] <bzed> iscream: the python2.4 from ubuntu should just be fine
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:43] <iscream> its more easier...
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:52] <bzed> zope doesn;t un in 2.5
[10-Jul-2007 04:38:56] <bzed> *run
[10-Jul-2007 04:39:00] <iscream> i donno, i installed pyton2.4, 2.4-dev
[10-Jul-2007 04:39:06] <iscream> but errors all the time
[10-Jul-2007 04:39:15] <bzed> so you have to change the files at some places, or change /usr/bin/python to point to 2.4
[10-Jul-2007 04:40:01] <iscream> its ok now with the vmware appliance:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:42:40] <ben__> Hello folkes.
[10-Jul-2007 04:42:56] <iscream> ben__ : hey
[10-Jul-2007 04:43:04] <ben__> Quick question, if I may.
[10-Jul-2007 04:43:39] <iscream> sure
[10-Jul-2007 04:43:40] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:44:11] <ben__> What is the latest thinking for the bad wmi state error while monitoring MS boxes?
[10-Jul-2007 04:44:43] <ben__> I am running 2.0 on ubuntu server 7.04
[10-Jul-2007 04:45:05] <iscream> for example WMI talking to PC ; eventsummary : com_error(121) DOS code 0x00000079. ?:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:45:25] <bzed> ben__: there're several fixes in 2.0.2
[10-Jul-2007 04:45:49] <bzed> and more to come in 2.0.3 if I understood the last svn commit in the wmi par right
[10-Jul-2007 04:46:29] <ben__> Yes thats correct. DOS code 0x00000058 in my case.
[10-Jul-2007 04:47:09] <ben__> Some boxes work and some don't, all on the domain and using the same UN &PW.
[10-Jul-2007 04:49:49] <bzed> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2353&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=3971fbaae9ab58268a9b6aa18da6fa84 << there's a thread about this theme, at least the 00000079 from iscream
[10-Jul-2007 04:49:49] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 04:49:49] <iscream> thx
[10-Jul-2007 04:50:28] <iscream> bzed : is it possible to monitor the device's processor temperature?
[10-Jul-2007 04:51:01] <bzed> no clue in windows
[10-Jul-2007 04:51:16] <bzed> in linux/unix for sure
[10-Jul-2007 04:51:52] <iscream> in zenoss can i use threshold to do it?
[10-Jul-2007 04:52:47] <bzed> I think so, but I haven't played with zenoss much yet, I've spent all my time on packaging it
[10-Jul-2007 04:52:53] <iscream> i hope smtp can serve this kind of information too
[10-Jul-2007 04:52:57] <iscream> ok
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:01] <bzed> snmp
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:04] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:05] <iscream> yes
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:15] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:16] <iscream> my fault:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:53:23] <bzed> it should, at least in the worst case you should be able to add user-defined tools
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:12] <iscream> when is cluther used to come online?:D:D
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:16] <bzed> no idea
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:24] <iscream> fast answer:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:40] <iscream> bzed : r u zenoss employee?
[10-Jul-2007 04:54:50] <bzed> no
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:17] <bzed> ben__, iscream: looks like a list of DOS-codes: http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Windows-XP-Blue-Screen-Death-STOP-Codes-t43519.html
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:17] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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[10-Jul-2007 04:57:17] <iscream> niiice
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:25] <bzed> lol
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:29] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:34] <iscream> linkz:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:57:34] <bzed> poor bot, I'd chokoe on windows pages, too
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:01] <iscream> which linux are u using?
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:05] <bzed> debian
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:28] <iscream> how do u feel with ubuntu?:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:58:40] <iscream> same distribution:P
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:03] <bzed> well
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:19] <bzed> that's less a feeling distribution-wise
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:26] <bzed> more a feeling towars some developers
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:34] <bzed> some of then are arrogant ********
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:42] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:51] <iscream> i see
[10-Jul-2007 04:59:57] <bzed> and believe ubuntu is everything they need to take care of, and their patches are a MESS
[10-Jul-2007 05:00:16] <bzed> and with other you can just work fine with
[10-Jul-2007 05:00:46] <iscream> hmm
[10-Jul-2007 05:00:50] <bzed> and some people there are telling too often bullshit
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:16] <iscream> how do you mean it?
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:32] <bzed> like why ubuntu is better than debian
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:47] <bzed> and their statements are just wrong
[10-Jul-2007 05:01:55] <bzed> but that's nothing I discuss in public
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:03] <iscream>
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:20] <iscream> i havent registered yet, after that we can discuss it sometime:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:28] <iscream> in pm
[10-Jul-2007 05:02:34] <bzed> imho ubuntu is way too hackish at too many places. upgrading does not work properly (on debian you always have a working upgrade path to the next version)
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:18] <bzed> there're several things in ubuntu which work better than in debian, but often the reason is that it's the same maintainer, and he didn;t backport the patches to debian and so didn;t take care of his packages in debian
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:35] <bzed> or the patches are a pure mess and you just can;t backport them
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:46] <bzed> but as I said before, that really depends on who worked on the stuff
[10-Jul-2007 05:03:54] <iscream> of course
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[10-Jul-2007 05:04:36] <iscream> you have good arguments
[10-Jul-2007 05:04:46] <bzed> for examples in the zope team the important stuff is hostet on debian's alioth, and at the moment maintained frome debian people, ant our new versions are just automatically build and integrated into ubuntu
[10-Jul-2007 05:06:39] <iscream> i worked with ubuntu and debian as well
[10-Jul-2007 05:06:49] <iscream> last year with debian
[10-Jul-2007 05:07:03] <iscream> its friendlier for me
[10-Jul-2007 05:08:17] <bzed>
[10-Jul-2007 05:09:15] <bzed> I've installed ubuntu on my father's desktop because etch was not out - now I can re-install everything because upgrading it the last time was pain in the ass and it doesn;t look like it would work again
[10-Jul-2007 05:09:24] <bzed> so I 'll just install etch...
[10-Jul-2007 05:10:34] <iscream>
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[10-Jul-2007 05:20:54] <iscream> bzed : can i disturb you again for a little time?:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:16] <bzed> sure
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:25] <bzed> not sure if I can answer, though
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:36] <iscream> probably u can:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:21:37] <iscream> so
[10-Jul-2007 05:22:35] <iscream> my boss wants me to have zenoss with alerts and so on as i said yesterday, and is it possible monitoring on the device running services/programs?:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:24:10] <iscream> for example is there asterisk running on every server, and if it isnt, then alert the whole company to prey or something:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:23] <bzed> as I understood the snmp config you can add a check for running processes to snmp
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:25] <bzed> snmpd
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:30] <bzed> and it'll spit them out
[10-Jul-2007 05:25:42] <bzed> but I'm not sure how to configure that in zneoss then
[10-Jul-2007 05:28:01] <iscream> for now i found services which are INSTALLed on the device
[10-Jul-2007 05:28:16] <iscream> but no found what services running on the device
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:03] <bzed> unfortunately I didn;t have the time to look into that now
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:10] <bzed> *until now
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:33] <iscream> ok, i asked if maybe you know the answer
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:36] <iscream> well
[10-Jul-2007 05:29:47] <iscream> i will wait for cluther:P
[10-Jul-2007 05:30:07] <iscream> so will do my boss too
[10-Jul-2007 05:30:44] <iscream> i am be paid by the hour, so i have time...:)
[10-Jul-2007 05:30:48] <iscream> -be
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[10-Jul-2007 09:10:02] <iscream> hey cluther
[10-Jul-2007 09:10:12] <iscream>
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[10-Jul-2007 09:14:14] <Boboga> hi all
[10-Jul-2007 09:14:34] <Boboga> anyone in the mood to try to help me?
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[10-Jul-2007 09:25:08] <iscream> cluther : are you here?
[10-Jul-2007 09:25:33] <cluther> iscream: I am, but in the middle of a hundred things at the moment. =}
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[10-Jul-2007 09:39:31] <doofoo> Was wondering if anyone else was having problems with Zenoss 2.0.2 modeling larger devices (6506's with full bgp route tables - even though I have indirect routes diabled) it seems they still time out when modeling. Any ways around this? Same thing happens with 7604's and other random cisco devices.
[10-Jul-2007 09:39:49] <doofoo> It just sits and churns for quite a while, then times out.
[10-Jul-2007 09:44:28] <cluther> doofoo: Remove the RouteMap from the zCollectorPlugins.
[10-Jul-2007 09:47:17] <doofoo> Let me give that a shot.
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[10-Jul-2007 09:49:38] <doofoo> So far it's looking good..
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[10-Jul-2007 09:54:02] <doofoo> Thanks.. Works great. Was also wondering. The search feature, is there any way to make it not only drill down to searching for device ip/name, but also to search interface descriptions?
[10-Jul-2007 09:55:31] <iscream> cluther : i would be very glad if you could come tomorrow sometime online
[10-Jul-2007 09:56:40] <iscream> bye all
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[10-Jul-2007 10:01:49] <megalogeek> Any devs on? I'm trying to figure out how to extend ZenModel to handle HP Insight SNMP information (RAM modules, physical disks, RAID arrays, etc.) but I'm not sure where to start. Is there any documentation or can someone point me in the right direction to start?
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[10-Jul-2007 10:48:24] <junix|work> who suggested otrs to me?
[10-Jul-2007 10:51:22] <cluther> junix|work: bzed
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[10-Jul-2007 10:52:24] <junix|work> k
[10-Jul-2007 10:52:28] <junix|work> is he around?
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[10-Jul-2007 12:42:00] <bzed> cluther: ping
[10-Jul-2007 12:42:09] <cluther> cluther: icmp echo reply
[10-Jul-2007 12:42:47] <bzed> cluther: heya
do you ahve a minute or 5 for me?[10-Jul-2007 12:43:07] <cluther> bzed: I'll make time for you, bzed.
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:39] <bzed> awesome
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:44] <bzed> in inst/GNUmakefile
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:47] <bzed> there's this part:
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> $(INSTALLED_CONFIG): $(DESTDIR)$(ZENHOME)/etc/%.example : conf/%
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> @echo installing $<
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> @mkdir -p $(DESTDIR)$(ZENHOME)/etc
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <bzed> @sed -e 's/ZENUSERNAME/$(ZOPEUSER)/' \
[10-Jul-2007 12:44:49] <bzed> -e 's/ZENPASSWORD/$(ZOPEPASSWORD)/' < $< > $@
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:04] <bzed> which replaces ZENUSERNAME and ZENPASSWORD in the config files
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:23] <bzed> but if I look into /conf/*, the files are empty
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:27] <bzed> nothing to repalce
[10-Jul-2007 12:45:30] <bzed> where do I miss the magic?
[10-Jul-2007 12:46:47] <cluther> bzed: That sounds like legacy scripting to me.. the username and password don't need to be specified in any of the stock conf files.
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:06] <bzed> how to they get the username/password then?
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:37] <bzed> as I understand it - at least when I run zenperfsnmp -v10 - it tries to login into zope!?
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:44] <bzed> and that doesn;t seem to work
[10-Jul-2007 12:47:59] <cluther> The only thing they need a username and password for is connecting to zenhub. The default password for that is hard-coded into Products/ZenHub/PBDaemon.py.
[10-Jul-2007 12:48:25] <cluther> cluther: All of the daemons that connect to ZenHub inherit from PBDaemon.
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:03] <bzed> so does that read zenhubpasswd?
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:13] <bzed> err hubpasswd
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:17] <bzed> the file in conf
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:28] <cluther> zenhub itself uses hubpasswd to authenticate clients.
[10-Jul-2007 12:49:57] <cluther> The clients use admin:zenoss unless the "username" and "password" config file options or command line options are specified.
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:08] <bzed> ok
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:20] <bzed> so they try to login to zenhub only?
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:26] <bzed> not into the zope instance?
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:56] <cluther> bzed: Yes.
[10-Jul-2007 12:50:59] <bzed> so I guess part of the code in bin/zenpass si deprecated
[10-Jul-2007 12:51:06] <bzed> and just there to confuse me
[10-Jul-2007 12:51:21] <cluther> bzed: 74% of the code was put in place just to confuse you.
[10-Jul-2007 12:51:32] <cluther> bzed: I expect a report on which lines those were by COB.
[10-Jul-2007 12:52:12] <cluther> bzed: Prior to 1.9.5 zenhub didn't even exist.. so there is a lot of old code still around.
[10-Jul-2007 12:52:17] <bzed> ah ok
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:05] <bzed> cluther: I guess I can run zenhub in debug mode like zenperfsnmp?
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:16] <cluther> bzed: You can, but it has limited debugging output.
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:46] <cluther> bzed: Are you still having troubles getting zenperfsnmp to run?
[10-Jul-2007 12:54:57] <bzed> zenperfsnmp runs, but it doesn;t do anything useful
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:20] <cluther> bzed: Can you pastebin a run of it with -v 10?
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:20] <bzed> aaah
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:25] <bzed> found the problem
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:31] <cluther> Congrats. =}
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:34] <bzed> zenhub likes to run on port 8-81
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:36] <bzed> 8081
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:39] <bzed> as it seems
[10-Jul-2007 12:55:48] <bzed> and I like to have my zope instance on that port, too
[10-Jul-2007 12:56:29] <cluther> bzed: Ah! zenhub actually binds to 8081 (to receive events via xmlrpc) and 8789 (the actual zenhub port)
[10-Jul-2007 12:56:55] <bzed> so zenperfsnmp connected to zope all the time
[10-Jul-2007 12:59:25] <cluther> zenperfsnmp is connected to zenhub at all times... zenhub is connected to zeo at all times..
[10-Jul-2007 12:59:46] <bzed> cluther: ok, let's wait a few minutes for zenperfsnmp
[10-Jul-2007 13:00:38] <bzed> hey, I have graphs
[10-Jul-2007 13:00:46] <bzed> still empty, though, but at least they exist
[10-Jul-2007 13:02:08] <bzed> cluther: is the avaiable/used bytes part of the system information retrieved by zenperfsnmp, too? it says unknown after adding localhost
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[10-Jul-2007 13:06:13] <maj> how often does zenoss check wheather a service is up or down
[10-Jul-2007 13:06:28] <maj> i shut down IIS a while ago, and it still says up
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[10-Jul-2007 13:24:09] <bzed> cluther: ok, I've answered that by myself
[10-Jul-2007 13:24:12] <bzed> seems to work well
[10-Jul-2007 13:26:58] <bzed> cluther: butw btw, zenoss works very well with zope2.9
[10-Jul-2007 13:27:33] <cluther> bzed: hmm.. I remember the devs trying to upgrade trunk to 2.9 a while back and hitting some sort of issue.
[10-Jul-2007 13:27:55] <bzed> hmm
[10-Jul-2007 13:28:20] <bzed> I know that the guy who created that thread abour zenoss on debian some time ago is running it in 2.9, too
[10-Jul-2007 13:29:14] <bzed> I get http://paste.debian.net/32439 when I click on the versions page in the settings, though
[10-Jul-2007 13:29:14] <bzed> cluther: did the devs probably forget to update CMFCore and to remove Five?
[10-Jul-2007 13:30:20] <cluther> bzed: I'd have to dig up the old thread. I know they removed Five..
[10-Jul-2007 13:30:26] <cluther> bzed: Not sure about CMFCore.
[10-Jul-2007 13:30:51] <bzed> cluther: ah, the error up there is my fault. or a ZENHOME fault
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:09] <cluther> bzed: You blame $ZENHOME when it rains, don't you? =}
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:31] <bzed> only when I need to egt rid of it
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:48] <bzed> it was looking for rrdtool in zenhome/bin
[10-Jul-2007 13:31:53] <bzed> there's no rrdtool, that's in /usr/bin
[10-Jul-2007 13:33:33] <bzed> and don;t have rrdtool isntalled at all
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[10-Jul-2007 14:16:07] <bzed> cluther: while looking at the screenshot of the new nagios (http://www.nagios.org/about/screenshots.php) - is there a WAP mode of zenoss
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:05] <cluther> bzed: WAP? Doesn't everyone have an iPhone yet?
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:15] <bzed> cluther: iphone is out
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:19] <bzed> wap, too
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:24] <bzed> openmoko is the choise!
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:33] <b52laptop> yeah i was about to say that ?D
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:39] <cluther> OpenMoko!! (google searches..)
[10-Jul-2007 14:17:47] <bzed> cluther: openmoko.com /openmoko.org
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> cluther, http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-advanced-00-develkit.html
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <adytum-bot> b52laptop: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <cluther> Interesting.. can't believe I haven't seen this before.
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <bzed> b52laptop: that makes me drool, but I think I'll wait for the version with wifi included
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> cluther, they have just start selling it so it's not too late :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> bzed, really the wifi is included ?
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <bzed> not yet
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <bzed> in a few months
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:21] <b52laptop> so wait before buing :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:53] * b52laptop give a kiss to adytum-bot
[10-Jul-2007 14:19:54] <creiht> hehe... silly bot
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:03] <creiht> adytum-bot: Take me to your administrator
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:03] <adytum-bot> creiht: Error: 'Take' is not a valid command.
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:15] * b52laptop drop a "hello" to creiht
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:19] <creiht> howdy
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:39] <b52laptop> fine thanks
, it's a little bit hot there but i 'm fine :d[10-Jul-2007 14:20:45] <b52laptop> i prefer the winter :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:20:57] <b52laptop> and yu how life is treating yu ? :d
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:03] <creiht> been busy
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:10] <creiht> Hot here as well
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: might you have time to walk me through separating out the vlan and the portchannels?
[10-Jul-2007 14:21:14] <creiht> But it always is
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <bzed> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-June/000014.html < b52laptop, cluther
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[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <b52laptop>
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <creiht> So how is everyone doing with v2.0.2? I'm trying to decide if it is safe to upgrade yet..
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <creiht>
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:43] <Bulwinkle> I've just upgraded to 2.0.1
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:57] <bzed> adytum-bot: don;t tell me that, tell it to cluther
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:57] <adytum-bot> bzed: Error: 'don;t' is not a valid command.
[10-Jul-2007 14:22:58] <creiht> adytum-bot: help
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[10-Jul-2007 14:23:01] <b52laptop> bzed, nice ! ..
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:08] <bzed> adytum-bot: jump
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:08] <adytum-bot> bzed: Error: 'jump' is not a valid command.
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:08] <creiht> hehe
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[10-Jul-2007 14:23:41] <creiht> adytum-bot: kick
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:41] <adytum-bot> creiht: Error: You don't have the '#zenoss,op' capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:49] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2007 14:23:53] <creiht> adytum-bot: whoami
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[10-Jul-2007 14:27:30] <krunaldo> A quick question, does zenoss support monitoring nodes that send data to an master?
[10-Jul-2007 14:27:47] <krunaldo> sends*
[10-Jul-2007 14:30:31] <_keturn> there are some places that suggest that it might, places in the GUI where you can set status or performance servers for a device to something other than localhost, but if there was anything in the manual about how to set that up, I missed it.
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[10-Jul-2007 14:40:36] <bzed> adytum-bot: whoami
[10-Jul-2007 14:40:36] <adytum-bot> bzed: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command).
[10-Jul-2007 14:42:16] <cluther> adytum-bot: whoami
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[10-Jul-2007 14:50:13] <scsponger> I'm having a hard time connecting to the management portal can someone give me some help?
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[10-Jul-2007 14:52:59] <maj> i can't seem to get the service monitoring to work... it keeps saying its up even though i take it down
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[10-Jul-2007 14:56:00] <scsponger> hello is anyone out there?
[10-Jul-2007 14:56:44] <cluther> scsponger: I'm here. What's going on?
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:07] <maj> what should i look at?
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:29] <cluther> maj: Windows service?
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:43] <scsponger> thanks for responding.... I've got the zenoss vmware player image... I've booted it, but can't seem to login via the web portal
[10-Jul-2007 14:57:56] <scsponger> was trying to figure out what I am doing wrong
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:04] <cluther> scsponger: Are you trying to login from the VM's host OS?
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:20] <scsponger> yes
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:30] <scsponger> ubuntu fiesty
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:31] <cluther> What happens? Does the login window come up?
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:47] <scsponger> nah nothing... I can ping it, bout thats about it
[10-Jul-2007 14:58:57] <scsponger> wondering if it was a vmware setting
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:08] <scsponger> seems to me, though its something in zenoss
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:29] <cluther> Shouldn't be.. su - zenoss on the VM and run "zenoss status" to verify that it is all running.
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:39] <maj> login command shell
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:42] <scsponger> ok
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:43] <maj> do a ping
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:44] <scsponger> one sec
[10-Jul-2007 14:59:59] <maj> ur NIC in vmware player may be disabled.
[10-Jul-2007 15:01:24] <scsponger> ping works to the player machine
[10-Jul-2007 15:01:30] <scsponger> from the host os
[10-Jul-2007 15:03:31] <scsponger> tells me that all the daemons are running
[10-Jul-2007 15:03:49] <scsponger> I actually stopped them and then restarted them
[10-Jul-2007 15:04:06] <cluther> scsponger: You're going to http://ip:8080/ ?
[10-Jul-2007 15:04:06] <scsponger> yeah 8080
[10-Jul-2007 15:05:24] <scsponger> wonder if I need to reconfigure vmware player
[10-Jul-2007 15:05:54] <scsponger> seems like if icmp works, then the built in webserver for zenoss should work as well
[10-Jul-2007 15:07:59] <scsponger> any other ideas?
[10-Jul-2007 15:08:18] <scsponger> cluther: any other ideas?
[10-Jul-2007 15:21:28] <scsponger> figured it out.... network can't be bridged in vmware player
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[10-Jul-2007 15:23:46] <junix|work> bzed: you there?
[10-Jul-2007 15:25:04] <bzed> yes
[10-Jul-2007 15:31:13] <junix|work> you have otrs2 setup ??
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[10-Jul-2007 15:37:44] <maj> can you ping out from the player to the host?
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[10-Jul-2007 15:38:08] <_chris_> bernd you around?
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[10-Jul-2007 16:04:37] <junix|work> bzed: you have otrs2 setup ??
[10-Jul-2007 16:05:07] <bzed> no
[10-Jul-2007 16:05:21] <bzed> and when I had to work with it, I didn;t set it up
[10-Jul-2007 16:05:37] <junix|work> oh ok
[10-Jul-2007 16:17:46] <_zack> _chris_: regarding you're comment about one of the license issue in the trac instance
[10-Jul-2007 16:18:15] <_zack> the fact you're using GPLv2 is not enough to want your licenses to be "GPLv2" instead of "GPLv2 or above"
[10-Jul-2007 16:18:23] <_zack> the difference does matter no matter GPLv3 is out or not...
[10-Jul-2007 16:18:58] <_zack> if you go for "GPLv2" your code can be cut and paste only in "GPLv2" code
[10-Jul-2007 16:19:22] <_zack> if you go for "GPLv2 or above" your code can be cut and paste only in "GPLv2 or above" code (which is the vast majority of the GPL code around, fwiw)
[10-Jul-2007 16:19:52] <_zack> also you can specify that your code is "GPLv2 or above" and that does not imply that your code is "GPLv*3* or above"
[10-Jul-2007 16:20:57] <_chris_> _zack: yup... i changed the license to say v2.
[10-Jul-2007 16:21:08] <_chris_> _zack: maybe my checkin comment wasn't good. hows the diff look tho?
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <bzed> _zack: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset?old=trunk%405903&new=trunk%405902
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[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_zack> _chris_: that's fine
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_chris_> cool beans
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_zack> i only looked at the trac comment and from that I assumed that you changed to "gpl v2"
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_zack> ignore the noise
[10-Jul-2007 16:22:45] <_chris_> trying to figure out what to do about the javascript stuff
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:03] <_zack> _chris_: cool, thanks a lot for your work!
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:11] <_chris_> heh
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:14] <_chris_> i just googled for DFSG
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:21] <_chris_> figured it was "debian free software group"
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:23] <_chris_> first hit:
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:27] <_chris_> diabetic foot study group
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:29] <_chris_> is that you guys?
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:30] <_chris_> ;-)
[10-Jul-2007 16:23:55] <bzed> err
[10-Jul-2007 16:24:10] * bzed slaps _chris_ with a trout... no.. a diabetic trout.
[10-Jul-2007 16:24:15] <_chris_> heh
[10-Jul-2007 16:26:03] <bzed> _chris_: dfsg: long version - no clue if it's right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines - short version: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[10-Jul-2007 16:26:03] <adytum-bot> Title: Debian Social Contract (at www.debian.org)
[10-Jul-2007 16:26:03] <_chris_> reading the wikipedia article now
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[10-Jul-2007 17:14:39] <slimmpete> Hello Zenoss Guru's
[10-Jul-2007 17:14:56] <slimmpete> I am a Zenoss Newbie and would like some help
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[10-Jul-2007 17:16:19] <slimmpete> I setup a Centos 4.3 VM and am trying to install zenoss from source
[10-Jul-2007 17:16:37] <_chris_> slimmpete: why source and why not rpm?
[10-Jul-2007 17:17:07] <slimmpete> Because I have tried rpm's and they did not work
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[10-Jul-2007 17:17:46] <slimmpete> I am more familiar setting up mysql from mysql-5.0.41-linux-i686.tar.tar
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:07] <slimmpete> installed in /usr/local/mysql
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:23] <oubiwann> creiht: you there?
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:43] <slimmpete> My question is does net-snmpd need to be started?
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:48] <creiht> oubiwann: possibly
[10-Jul-2007 17:18:56] <oubiwann> creiht: heh
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:03] <creiht> oubiwann: How's it going?
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:11] <oubiwann> creiht: remember ages ago we were talking about SQLAlchemy and its issues?
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:23] <creiht> oubiwann: How did I know you were going to bring that up?
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:23] <creiht>
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:30] <creiht> And yes I saw the release of storm
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:31] <oubiwann> the company I couldn't tell you about that had developed another ORM was Canonical :-)
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:33] <oubiwann> hehe
[10-Jul-2007 17:19:43] <oubiwann> but here's the bit I wanted to share with you:
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <oubiwann> http://programming.reddit.com/info/24oo3/comments
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[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <slimmpete> So SNMP does need to be started
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:39] <slimmpete> net-snmpd
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:40] <oubiwann> that's part of what we talked about at pycon (we == twisted and canonical guys, lamenting issues in SQLAlchemy)
[10-Jul-2007 17:20:49] <_chris_> slimmpete: doesn't need to be started. helps tho because you can start out by modeling the local box via snmp
[10-Jul-2007 17:21:02] <oubiwann> one thing not covered in that reddit comment bit is the inifinite recursion bug in SQLAlchemy (obscure, but repeatable)
[10-Jul-2007 17:22:52] <slimmpete> usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py:38: UserWarning: Using python-based snmp engine warnings.warn("Using python-based snmp engine")
[10-Jul-2007 17:23:44] <slimmpete> Thats the error I am getting
[10-Jul-2007 17:24:07] <_chris_> slimmpete: that's a warning. it should be ok
[10-Jul-2007 17:25:40] <slimmpete> Okay when I login to http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd I am getting error stating "Site error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist."
[10-Jul-2007 17:26:14] <slimmpete> Cont: "Please click here to return to the Zenoss dashboard"
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:24] <creiht> oubiwann: You need to fix your bot
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:37] <oubiwann> creiht: heh
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:44] <oubiwann> that bot is so old and run-down
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:48] <creiht> oubiwann: Well there are always two sides to every story
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:49] <creiht>
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:51] <oubiwann> it needs replacing
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:55] <creiht> And I'm staying out of it
[10-Jul-2007 17:29:59] <oubiwann> creiht: heh
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:02] <_chris_> slimmpete: can you just go to http://localhost:8080/
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:38] <slimmpete> I can but then it directs me to zport/dmd
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:50] <creiht> haha
[10-Jul-2007 17:31:56] <_chris_> slimmpete: did you get through the entire install process?
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:01] <creiht> http://localhost:8080/manage
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:10] <slimmpete> yes and I got a successfull install
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:12] <_chris_> did you get through the part that said something like "Populating initial zenoss object database (this may take awhile)"?
[10-Jul-2007 17:32:28] <slimmpete> Yes
[10-Jul-2007 17:33:14] <creiht> heh... I guess the bot doesn't like me
[10-Jul-2007 17:34:16] <slimmpete> I am going to create the whole install again because it had a problem finding libmysqlclient_r.so.15
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[10-Jul-2007 17:45:40] <bzed> hmm
[10-Jul-2007 17:45:55] <bzed> http://admin:zenoss@localhost:8080/manage/
[10-Jul-2007 17:45:55] <adytum-bot> bzed: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 17:45:59] <bzed> damn
[10-Jul-2007 17:49:45] <solarce> haha
[10-Jul-2007 17:49:57] <solarce> http://foo:foo@foo:8080/foo/
[10-Jul-2007 17:49:57] <adytum-bot> solarce: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10-Jul-2007 17:50:01] <solarce> :>
[10-Jul-2007 17:54:56] <bzed> http://bzed.de
[10-Jul-2007 17:55:13] <bzed> ?
[10-Jul-2007 17:55:51] <bzed> http://bzed.de/
[10-Jul-2007 17:57:23] <bzed> the bot doesn;t like me
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[11-Jul-2007 00:15:22] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Open Source Community Interaction: Is More Less? - 10 Jul, 07:04PM
[11-Jul-2007 00:15:23] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=140
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[11-Jul-2007 02:34:53] <iscream> can anybody help me ?:)
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[11-Jul-2007 03:07:06] <kury-> hey guys does anyone know which part of zenoss sends emails real quick off the top of their head
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[11-Jul-2007 03:44:11] <iscream> can anybody help me ?
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[11-Jul-2007 04:09:04] <iscream> can anybody help me ?
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[11-Jul-2007 04:16:47] <iscream> hey bzed
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:15] <bzed> hi
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:29] <iscream> how do you do
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:44] <bzed> tired but ok, thanks
[11-Jul-2007 04:17:46] <bzed> you?
[11-Jul-2007 04:18:49] <iscream> i cannot go forward with my work:S:P
[11-Jul-2007 04:18:58] <iscream> what do you know about MIBs?
[11-Jul-2007 04:22:05] <bzed> i know RFC 2325
[11-Jul-2007 04:22:13] <bzed>
[11-Jul-2007 04:22:21] <bzed> what do you want to know about them?
[11-Jul-2007 04:23:56] <iscream> i have the zenoss apliance vmware image, its on an rpath linux, but i dont know how could i install/download lm-sensors-mib , which helps me to get the device's temperature
[11-Jul-2007 04:49:41] <iscream> bzed : dont you know the answer, how can i install lm-sensors-mib to rpath linux?
[11-Jul-2007 04:49:52] <iscream> no apt-get,no dselect, only conary :S
[11-Jul-2007 04:51:36] <bzed> no idea
[11-Jul-2007 04:52:14] <iscream> ok, thx
[11-Jul-2007 04:58:45] <bzed> I'd probably just call an external program from snmpd
[11-Jul-2007 04:58:53] <bzed> but no idea how rto do it the right way
[11-Jul-2007 05:04:32] <iscream> thx for the idea
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[11-Jul-2007 08:01:44] <iscream> cluther : hello, if you have time for me, pls tell me:)
[11-Jul-2007 08:02:32] <plaspop> Hi I have a questions about graphs, I just installed Zenoss so i'm a bit new on this, I have added 5 server al show there partion graph visible, but i dont see the cpu/mem/paging graph
[11-Jul-2007 08:02:46] <plaspop> is there a way to debug this in a way ?
[11-Jul-2007 08:04:14] <plaspop> btw everything is default, so no changes have been made
[11-Jul-2007 08:04:37] <iscream> if you choosed the right device class, wait a few minutes, and it will appear
[11-Jul-2007 08:08:24] <plaspop> could it be that the zenoss server is on a different network, so it cannot collect al data for the graphs ?
[11-Jul-2007 08:08:38] <plaspop> because it's on for 24 ours now
[11-Jul-2007 08:13:11] <iscream> plaspop : i think it should go anyway, what kind of servers did you add?
[11-Jul-2007 08:13:48] <plaspop> 4 win, 1 unix
[11-Jul-2007 08:14:08] <iscream> r there snmp informants on the win servers?
[11-Jul-2007 08:14:25] <iscream> unix's graphs should go
[11-Jul-2007 08:14:48] <plaspop> even the localhost graph isn't showing
[11-Jul-2007 08:15:02] <plaspop> show i think now it cant be a routing issue
[11-Jul-2007 08:15:39] <plaspop> iscream: yes there are, we are monitoring with nagios / oreon atm
[11-Jul-2007 08:17:10] <iscream> plaspop : i donno than , sry
[11-Jul-2007 08:17:49] <iscream> plaspop : what kind of OS have you installed zenoss?
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[11-Jul-2007 08:19:23] <iscream> plaspop: maybe check it out in the zenoss forum
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[11-Jul-2007 08:19:58] <iscream> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1410 - this is one thread , but there are others
[11-Jul-2007 08:19:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - No graphs with VMware appliance? (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2007 08:19:58] <iscream> re cluther
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[11-Jul-2007 08:20:02] <plaspop> oke thank anyway
[11-Jul-2007 08:20:20] <plaspop> i'll ask the question trough forum
[11-Jul-2007 08:20:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you around yet this morning?
[11-Jul-2007 08:21:31] <iscream> everybody wants cluther
[11-Jul-2007 08:22:58] <cluther> Mornin' folks. I am around, but not going to able to see the light of day for a while.
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[11-Jul-2007 08:25:44] <iscream> cluther : pls pls pls help me quickly if u have a little time:)
[11-Jul-2007 08:25:55] <iscream> but i dont wanna disturb u
[11-Jul-2007 08:26:30] <cluther> Go ahead and throw the question out there.
[11-Jul-2007 08:29:07] <Darkfang> I got a question too. Has an integration with an incident tracking tool like GLPI has been planned?
[11-Jul-2007 08:32:05] <cluther> We have the integrated inventory management. There are no current plans to build our own job tracking system for this. We usually recommend integrating with a ticketing system for this.
[11-Jul-2007 08:33:30] <iscream> cluther : WMI error talking to ISCREAM: com_error(121): DOS code 0x00000079, WMI error talking to ISCREAM 121: Desc - i have these 2 events all the time , i found a similar thread in the forum, and wrote there i guess, and Zwinpass,and Zwinuser is needed i guess...what will those be?
[11-Jul-2007 08:34:28] <cluther> iscream: zWinUser would be "DOMAIN\Username" or ".\Username" for a local account.
[11-Jul-2007 08:34:38] <cluther> iscream: The user will need domain or local admin privileges.
[11-Jul-2007 08:34:49] <cluther> iscream: zWinPassword is that user's password.
[11-Jul-2007 08:35:16] <iscream> cluther : ".\username" - what i choose right now, or what i choosed once...?
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[11-Jul-2007 08:36:03] <Darkfang> I've working a bit on mysql the last few days to integrate zenoss to GLPI. Events already generate tickets, moving them to history close the tickets and some other stuff
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[11-Jul-2007 08:38:45] <cluther> iscream: It's the actual username you would use to login to the Windows machine as admin.
[11-Jul-2007 08:38:57] <cluther> Darkfang: Very nice!
[11-Jul-2007 08:40:56] <iscream> cluther : nice
[11-Jul-2007 08:41:29] <Darkfang> it's just some mapping tables and triggers in the mysql databases
[11-Jul-2007 08:42:54] <iscream> cluther : other question would be ... i wrote a lot about how could i manage to find out the devices temperature, and they say they use "LM-SENSORS-MIB" , how can i install it on my vm appliance on rpath?:S
[11-Jul-2007 08:44:03] <iscream> -wrote +read
[11-Jul-2007 08:44:42] <iscream> cluther : or how can i see the devices temperature
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[11-Jul-2007 08:48:38] <twaijn> hello. I've installed zenoss 2.0.1 on rhel5 and I'm having trouble with performance graphs. they aren't generated for localhost nor the three switches I've configured.
[11-Jul-2007 08:49:24] <twaijn> from the forums I gathered that zenperfsnmp run -v10 should show what's wrong but I cannot really gather anything sane from the output: http://pastebin.ca/614213
[11-Jul-2007 08:49:24] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 614213 (at pastebin.ca)
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[11-Jul-2007 08:51:09] <iscream> froze out?
[11-Jul-2007 08:57:35] <iscream> cluther_ : any idea?:P
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[11-Jul-2007 08:58:17] <cluther_> iscream: What do you mean froze out? The account is locked out?
[11-Jul-2007 08:58:25] <iscream> not me...you from mirc...:D
[11-Jul-2007 08:59:07] <iscream> my question was : how can i get in the zenoss the devices processor temperature:)
[11-Jul-2007 08:59:48] <iscream> and i guess, when i fix the WMI connect problem, than i can see the programs which are running on the devices?
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[11-Jul-2007 09:06:43] <cluther_> iscream: WMI will show you the services that are installed on the box. You can then choose which ones to monitor.
[11-Jul-2007 09:07:14] <cluther_> iscream: As far as the processor temperature goes.. did you find the SNMP OID for it?
[11-Jul-2007 09:08:48] <iscream> cluther_ : i would like to monitor running programs, not installed programs, is it possible?
[11-Jul-2007 09:10:22] <cluther_> iscream: Yes, that is possible without even using WMI as Windows servers expose process information through the standard SNMP service.
[11-Jul-2007 09:11:58] <iscream> cluther_ : i found this http://webaj.com/how-setup-environmental-monitor-zenoss-1-1-2-and-centos-5-0.htm , but i have the vmware appliance, and some saying me the "LM-SENSORS-MIB"
[11-Jul-2007 09:11:58] <adytum-bot> Title: How to setup a environmental monitor in Zenoss 1.1.2 and Centos 5.0 | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:17] <iscream> cluther_ : can you explain me how to find out the running programs, if you have time, or send me in email, if you have time, i think i will have some questions by the time, but i dont want to disturb you
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:33] <cluther_> iscream: That article is discussing using the RA11 environmental monitor. It is an actual rack-mountable environmental monitoring device.
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:41] <iscream> cluther_ : shall i give you an email-address?
[11-Jul-2007 09:14:58] <iscream> cluther_ : then its not good for me i guess
[11-Jul-2007 09:16:16] <cluther_> iscream: To monitor a process you simply need to add it to the list of processes, set the regex to match the running process name, then remodel the device.
[11-Jul-2007 09:16:29] <iscream> cluther_ : what would you say, if i write you a mail, with all my problems, or all the things that i should make, and when you have time, you reply if you have answers?:P
[11-Jul-2007 09:17:16] <cluther_> iscream: You should really post your questions to the users forum. One topic per post. That will give community members a chance at them.
[11-Jul-2007 09:17:57] <iscream> ok, i will try it
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:19] <iscream> how can i find out the programs regex name?:S - im sorry beeing so big noob:S
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:40] <cluther_> iscream: Normally you can just type the name of the process (look in your task manager)
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:52] <iscream> ohh
[11-Jul-2007 09:18:53] <iscream> i see
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[11-Jul-2007 10:10:46] <iscream> cluther_ : and what if the windows service has only user without any password, does it cause any error when i leave the Zwinpass blank?
[11-Jul-2007 10:12:39] <cluther_> no, that works.
[11-Jul-2007 10:16:15] <iscream> cluther_ : very bad problem: how could it happened, that i restarted the applicant, and now i cannot connect to 'serverip:8080\' ?:S i guess the apache isnt running, or i donno, but why isnt itrunning, i hate rpath... i dont know how to start apache:S shhhh***t
[11-Jul-2007 10:30:20] <iscream> what uninstalled my apache? somebody a solution?:S
[11-Jul-2007 10:40:22] <cluther_> iscream: Zenoss doesn't use apache. Zope is the webserver.
[11-Jul-2007 10:41:37] <iscream> cluther_ : so Zope isnt running maybe?:S
[11-Jul-2007 10:42:01] <cluther_> iscream: It's possible. Are you sure the application got the same IP this boot?
[11-Jul-2007 10:42:10] <iscream> yes
[11-Jul-2007 10:42:39] <cluther_> iscream: You can "su - zenoss" to switch to the zenoss user then run "zenoss status" to see the status of all of the required daemons.
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zeoctl program running; pid=1954
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zenhub program running; pid=1966
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zenping program running; pid=1978
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zensyslog program running; pid=1990
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:03] <iscream> Daemon: zenstatus program running; pid=2003
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:05] <iscream> Daemon: zenactions program running; pid=2018
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:07] <iscream> Daemon: zentrap program running; pid=2025
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:09] <iscream> Daemon: zenmodeler program running; pid=2046
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:11] <iscream> Daemon: zenperfsnmp program running; pid=2064
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:13] <iscream> Daemon: zencommand program running; pid=2073
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:15] <iscream> Daemon: zenprocess program running; pid=2090
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:17] <iscream> Daemon: zenwin program running; pid=2100
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:19] <iscream> Daemon: zeneventlog program running; pid=2109
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:21] <iscream> Daemon: zenwinmodeler program running; pid=2118
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:23] <iscream> i think its good
[11-Jul-2007 10:43:30] <cluther_> ok.. zope isn't running. zopectl daemon manager not running
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[11-Jul-2007 10:43:38] <cluther_> You can run "zopectl start" to try to start it.
[11-Jul-2007 10:44:31] <iscream> daemon process started, pid=2711
[11-Jul-2007 10:44:57] <iscream> after that int the status
[11-Jul-2007 10:44:58] <iscream> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager running; daemon process not running
[11-Jul-2007 10:45:26] <cluther_> If you look in $ZENHOME/log/event.log you should be able to see errors.
[11-Jul-2007 10:45:38] <cluther_> Oh.. wait.
[11-Jul-2007 10:45:49] <iscream> ok
[11-Jul-2007 10:46:08] <cluther_> Try this. "rm $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec"
[11-Jul-2007 10:46:16] <cluther_> cluther_: Then run zopectl start again.
[11-Jul-2007 10:46:26] <cluther_> Probably just a corrupt cache.
[11-Jul-2007 10:47:22] <iscream> ohh
[11-Jul-2007 10:47:23] <iscream> thanks
[11-Jul-2007 10:47:24] <iscream>
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[11-Jul-2007 10:58:03] <krunar> Anyone know if zenoss is getting distributed collection nodes anytime soon? Google is giving me rather non trusty worthy answers
[11-Jul-2007 10:59:32] <krunar> for example I'd like to have one node for every site I want to monitor, for example one in london, one in paris and one in tokyo
[11-Jul-2007 11:00:04] <krunar> and then I want them to report to an master server and if that fails become a temporary master server and act alone until the master server can be connected again and sync history with it
[11-Jul-2007 11:03:43] <krunar> or at least keep the data until it can send it to the data layer
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[11-Jul-2007 11:19:10] <iscream> cluther : r u here?:P
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[11-Jul-2007 11:44:20] <Bulwinkle> iscream: what is your problem
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:36] <iscream> im ok now
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:43] <iscream> thanx
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:45] <iscream>
[11-Jul-2007 11:51:51] <iscream> byeby
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[11-Jul-2007 12:19:20] <solarce> krunar: I think you need to go enterprise to get that
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[11-Jul-2007 12:29:51] <krunar> solarce: ok, the code seems to be there, perhaps I'll just get the GUI bit with the enterprise part
[11-Jul-2007 12:30:37] <creiht> krunar: What are you wanting to do?
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[11-Jul-2007 12:32:23] <krunar> creiht: 7:00 < krunar> Anyone know if zenoss is getting distributed collection nodes anytime soon? Google is giving me rather non trusty worthy answers
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:26] <krunar> 17:01 < krunar> for example I'd like to have one node for every site I want to monitor, for example one in london, one in paris and one in tokyo
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:29] <krunar> 17:02 < krunar> and then I want them to report to an master server and if that fails become a temporary master server and act alone until the master server can be connected again and sync history with it
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:33] <krunar> 17:06 < krunar> or at least keep the data until it can send it to the data layer
[11-Jul-2007 12:32:48] <creiht> krunar: You can partly have that
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:08] <krunar> Distributed nodes seems to be possibrle
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:14] <krunar> been looking through the code real quick
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:15] <creiht> It is possible with Zenoss Core to have a master server with distributed collectors
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[11-Jul-2007 12:33:29] <krunar> yes
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:38] <krunar> That would be enough for now.
[11-Jul-2007 12:33:50] <krunar> Any documentation how you go about doing that?
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:03] <creiht> krunar: Yes... let me dig it up for you real quick
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:11] <krunar> thanks!
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:30] <creiht> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:31] <creiht> And download the Zenoss Guide
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:40] <krunar> creiht: Been reading the 2.0
[11-Jul-2007 12:34:48] <creiht> The last time I looked at it, it had a section on how to do it
[11-Jul-2007 12:36:02] <solarce> creiht: yo
[11-Jul-2007 12:36:22] <creiht> solarce: Howdy
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:17] <solarce> creiht: how's tx?
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:32] <creiht> krunar: Hmmm... looking at the 2.0 guide, I can't find that section any more
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:36] <creiht> solarce: Muggy
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:46] <solarce> same here today :/
[11-Jul-2007 12:37:53] <creiht> We just had a huge transformer blow up at work
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:02] <creiht> So I get to work from home today
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:09] <solarce> doh
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:15] <solarce> I hope nothing is down
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:18] <creiht> haha
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:19] <creiht> nah
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:23] <krunar> creiht: ok, I'll have to look into the issue tomorrow! Send som emails and such.
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:43] <creiht> krunar: Check the older version doc as well... it might be there as well
[11-Jul-2007 12:38:59] <creiht> solarce: Our data centers are in separate locations
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:08] <solarce> ah
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:15] <creiht> And we have major battery backup and generators there
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[11-Jul-2007 12:39:30] <krunar> creiht: Of course.
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:38] <creiht> We have a generator for the office
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:41] <solarce> creiht: batteries are old school
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:44] <krunar> Thanks for your help anyway
[11-Jul-2007 12:39:56] <solarce> creiht: self propelling dynamos are hip
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:03] <creiht> solarce: Well the batteries handle the 15 seconds it takes to get the Generators going
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:04] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:22] <solarce> the data center I just had a tour of uses them, it's cool stuff
[11-Jul-2007 12:40:28] <creiht> interesting
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:03] <creiht> I'm on the list of "non-essential" personnel
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:08] <solarce> hehe
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:10] <creiht> so we get sent home
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:21] <creiht> on these occasions
[11-Jul-2007 12:41:37] <solarce> they just don't want to share the emergency beer horde
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[11-Jul-2007 12:42:13] <solarce> oi, I need to learn how to use ms project
[11-Jul-2007 12:42:32] <creiht> krunar: You will want to look at section 13.2 in the 1.1 manual... My guess is that it should still be similar
[11-Jul-2007 12:42:38] <creiht> solarce: doh
[11-Jul-2007 12:42:59] <solarce> I'm buried in projects and it seems to be the tool of choice here
[11-Jul-2007 12:44:48] <solarce> my officeis such a mess :/
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:08] <creiht> doh... We just lost the office generator
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:13] <creiht> This is going to be fun
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:14] <solarce> shit
[11-Jul-2007 12:48:16] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:01] <solarce> bad day to be an admin
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:05] <creiht> haha
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:14] <creiht> Luckily today I am just a programmer
[11-Jul-2007 12:49:20] <solarce> yeah
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[11-Jul-2007 13:49:47] <Bulwinkle> does anyone know what kind of syslog history ZenOSS keeps?
[11-Jul-2007 13:51:15] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: when do you think you'll have some time to walk me through the VLAN / PortChannel separation ZenPack creation?
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[11-Jul-2007 14:07:27] <bzed> cluther_: ping!
[11-Jul-2007 14:11:11] <Bulwinkle> bzed: I think he is buried....
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[11-Jul-2007 14:58:48] <bzed> cluther_: ping
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[11-Jul-2007 15:46:59] <bkingx> Greetings!
[11-Jul-2007 15:47:21] <bkingx> I am having trouble connecting to my new VM install of Zenoss from outside my router.
[11-Jul-2007 15:47:44] <bkingx> I am port-forwarding to 8080 of the local server.
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[11-Jul-2007 15:49:28] <bkingx> Connecting from another machine inside the network to the local IP:8080 works fine.
[11-Jul-2007 15:50:00] <bkingx> However, connecting to the server from the outside, through the forwarded port does not.
[11-Jul-2007 15:50:22] <bkingx> Anyone have any ideas?
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[11-Jul-2007 16:12:23] <StylusEater_Work> does zenoss use snmp, pegasus, or something else?
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[11-Jul-2007 16:17:49] <bkingx> What distro of Linux does the VM use?
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[11-Jul-2007 16:18:51] <bzed> bkingx: rpath
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:02] <bkingx> TY bzed
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:08] <bzed> but I guess that's not your problem
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:28] <bzed> I'm not sure what the problem is, though
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:39] <bzed> never used vmware player for longer than a few minutes
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:53] <bkingx> bzed: nope...I've sidelined that problem for the time being.
[11-Jul-2007 16:19:59] <bkingx> Well, sort of.
[11-Jul-2007 16:20:16] <bkingx> I was going to look in to the files themselves to see if there are some configs I can tweak.
[11-Jul-2007 16:20:38] <bkingx> But not knowing what distro it is or what tools are installed, I didn't know where to start
[11-Jul-2007 16:32:53] <bkingx> YeeHaw! Turned out I didn't have all the settings for a static IP set. Had to specify gateway.
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[11-Jul-2007 18:20:30] <markl__> ok i added a mib for my LSI raid card, and i can snmpwalk the values - but how do i add it to the device (the linux server) so that zenoss can see it?
[11-Jul-2007 18:21:20] <markl__> i hope that i don't have to use traps for this to work, that would be annoying
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[12-Jul-2007 00:15:52] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Open Source Community Interaction: Is More Less? - 10 Jul, 07:04PM
[12-Jul-2007 00:15:53] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=140
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[12-Jul-2007 02:23:22] <iscream> hi all
[12-Jul-2007 02:23:26] <iscream> giesen : r u here?
[12-Jul-2007 02:31:14] <iscream> or can anybody help me with heartbeats problems?
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[12-Jul-2007 08:11:15] <iscream> can anybody help me with event commands?
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[12-Jul-2007 08:14:39] <iscream> event commands? anybody???
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[12-Jul-2007 09:05:52] <iscream> hey cluther : i have just one question right now for you if you dont mind:D
[12-Jul-2007 09:06:34] <cluther> iscream: What's up?
[12-Jul-2007 09:07:04] <iscream> i would like to write event commands, i know where can i do it
[12-Jul-2007 09:07:04] <iscream> but
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[12-Jul-2007 09:07:28] <iscream> when i add one, i write in the script etc.... and in the add filter field, its empty
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[12-Jul-2007 09:07:54] <iscream> i cannot scroll down the options just like when i make alert rule, this time its empty
[12-Jul-2007 09:07:59] <iscream> how can i fix it?:S
[12-Jul-2007 09:08:52] <cluther> hmm.. if you click into the field can you navigate it with your up/down arrow keys.
[12-Jul-2007 09:09:35] <iscream> i cannot believe it...
[12-Jul-2007 09:09:49] <iscream> im so nooob
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:10] <cluther> iscream: That is a bug.. you're using Firefox in Windows, right?
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:20] <cluther> iscream: You can use it like that, but it should be a drop-down list.
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:40] <iscream> yeah
[12-Jul-2007 09:10:53] <cluther> ok, thanks. I'll put in a ticket on it.
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good morning, buried today?
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:13] <cluther> This same issue popped up in a different place before.
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:15] <iscream> and dont u know how could i download mibs to the rpath , to monitor the temp?:D
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:32] <iscream> cluther : they dont knew this bug until now?
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:50] <cluther> iscream: right
[12-Jul-2007 09:11:56] <iscream> oh, i see
[12-Jul-2007 09:12:06] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Hopefully not so much as yesterday.
[12-Jul-2007 09:12:55] <Bulwinkle> cluther: if you have some downtime I'd love it if you could walk me through separating out the VLAN and PortChannels on the Switches so I can get rid of all of these blues in my even screen
[12-Jul-2007 09:13:18] <iscream> cluther : thx for everything i hope i will do it from now:P
[12-Jul-2007 09:13:56] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Definitely. Are you going to be around for most of the day
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[12-Jul-2007 09:17:05] <Bulwinkle> Until 4 CST
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[12-Jul-2007 09:21:54] <iscream> bye all
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[12-Jul-2007 09:38:47] <Bulwinkle> cluther: until 4PM CST
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[12-Jul-2007 11:05:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you do a bunch of bouncing up and down on IRC
[12-Jul-2007 11:09:33] <cluther> I connect to a lot of client sites where the VPN client blocks all my other access.
[12-Jul-2007 11:42:31] <bzed> sound slike cisco vpn
[12-Jul-2007 11:45:01] <markw_> cluther: try using vpnc
[12-Jul-2007 12:03:35] <krunar> What Zen daemon is responsible for listening on port 8080(default)
[12-Jul-2007 12:03:59] <krunar> Mine seems to have crashed and all the daemons seems to be runing just fine
[12-Jul-2007 12:05:52] <bzed> zope
[12-Jul-2007 12:06:10] <krunar> Humz, seems to be a problem with vmplayer. Thanks anyway
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[12-Jul-2007 12:18:38] <krunar> I did a portscan on one host, after that it was impossible to access the admin interface(tcp 8080) and rebooting the machine didn't help. Anyone have an clue? (Using the vmplayer image)
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[12-Jul-2007 13:04:38] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do you have time to help with my VLAN/PortChannel deal?
[12-Jul-2007 13:06:12] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Afraid not. Could you post a synposis to the users forum? That way I can post a little guide back when I get the time and more people can benefit from it.
[12-Jul-2007 13:06:28] <Bulwinkle> I posted something
[12-Jul-2007 13:06:43] <cluther> ah, okay. good
[12-Jul-2007 13:07:57] <Bulwinkle> cluther: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2694 ... is that sufficient?
[12-Jul-2007 13:07:57] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Creating ZenPacks? (at community.zenoss.com)
[12-Jul-2007 13:10:21] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Perfect.
[12-Jul-2007 13:10:25] <cluther> thanks
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[12-Jul-2007 13:11:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther: thank you! about 4 times a day my event log fills with those damn vlan informational errors. I'll be very pleased when they are gone!
[12-Jul-2007 13:11:45] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I can imagine. It will also end up being a nice guide to one of the many things you can do with ZenPacks.
[12-Jul-2007 13:12:44] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Awesome.... I'd love to know much more about that in general since it looks like this will be going production soon. How often are ZenOSS classes held?
[12-Jul-2007 13:14:20] <cluther> Bulwinkle: The plan is monthly going forward, but it will depend on demand.
[12-Jul-2007 13:14:41] <Bulwinkle> cluther: are you going to be an instructor?
[12-Jul-2007 13:14:47] <cluther> yes
[12-Jul-2007 13:15:48] <cluther> We're having one the week after next.
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[12-Jul-2007 15:53:30] <rdb_> I'm getting this Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database: "Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database" then "unable to create the initial Zenoss object database" -- Any tips for me?
[12-Jul-2007 15:56:34] <Bulwinkle> rdb_: have you looked out in the forums?
[12-Jul-2007 15:57:11] <Bulwinkle> http://community.zenoss.com/forums
[12-Jul-2007 15:58:55] <rdb_> I googled, doesn't that count? ;-) I'll check
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[12-Jul-2007 16:08:04] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone help with bash scripting here (I know it's off topic, just smart people come here ;-) )
[12-Jul-2007 16:10:36] <waldo323> what are you trying to do?
[12-Jul-2007 16:12:03] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to get files renamed. example - file1.1 file1.2 file1.3 should be come file1.2 file1.3 file1.4 . I'm trying to do it in a do while loop but I can't get the $i to change from the number it's currently to +1.
[12-Jul-2007 16:12:59] <waldo323> whats the statement you are using to increment $i?
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:49] <MoreDakka_> That's the part that I don't know. This is what I'm trying:
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> BACKUPS=3
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> for ((i=1; i <= BACKUPS ; i++))
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> do
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> FILE=`ls /tmp/test/*.$i`
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:53] <MoreDakka_> mv -f /tmp/test/$FILE /tmp/test/${FILE.$1}".changed"
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:54] <MoreDakka_> done
[12-Jul-2007 16:13:56] <MoreDakka_> echo; echo
[12-Jul-2007 16:14:18] <MoreDakka_> oops. The .changed should be something like .$++
[12-Jul-2007 16:14:24] <MoreDakka_> .$i++
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[12-Jul-2007 16:19:22] <The_Man> Anyone have any WMI experience with zenoss
[12-Jul-2007 16:20:55] <lburton> When you add a process, zenoss doesn't find it on devices.. unless I remove/add the device, is there a way to "refresh/rescan" a device, or better yet, all devices, so that processes show up.. or am I just impatient, and It will automatically periodically?
[12-Jul-2007 16:23:13] <waldo323> in a test, i used a variable num=1, then next=$((i+num)) so $next would be i+1
[12-Jul-2007 16:24:10] <waldo323> does that work for you?
[12-Jul-2007 16:24:12] <MoreDakka_> Ah, sweet, I'll give that a try.
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[12-Jul-2007 16:41:23] <MoreDakka_> Sweet, that works. Now I just need to fix the rest of the script ;-) Thanks Waldo :-D
[12-Jul-2007 16:42:19] <waldo323>
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[12-Jul-2007 17:31:10] <jbsnake> any idea how to make the alerts more responsive in 2.0?
[12-Jul-2007 17:31:43] <jbsnake> like... instead of having a downtime of up to 5 minutes, know almost instantly that a machine isn't pinging
[12-Jul-2007 17:34:21] <waldo323> i'm just starting to use zenoss, but it looks like you can change the thresholds and how you are notified
[12-Jul-2007 17:38:31] <MoreDakka_> What is the count at on the alert?
[12-Jul-2007 17:38:41] <MoreDakka_> (I'm using v1.1.1 so I don't know if it's the same or not)
[12-Jul-2007 17:42:36] <waldo323> in the preferences there is an alerting section
[12-Jul-2007 17:42:55] <MoreDakka_> Hmm...different then 1.1.1 then
[12-Jul-2007 17:44:18] <waldo323> 'alerting rules' so you could define what the alert checks for including production state, severity, event state and then you can add filters so you just get what you need
[12-Jul-2007 17:46:11] <jbsnake> i have all that set... i'm more worried about how frequently it checks for events
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[12-Jul-2007 17:48:44] <lburton> jbsnake: are you worried about the machine going down or a service on the machine, because having the snmpd on the machine poke zenoss would be the _quickest/best_ if thats the case.. if not.. no clue (I'm no zenoss expert)
[12-Jul-2007 17:55:53] <Stravad> is it possible for zenoss to write snmp polled values directly to a relational DB instead of using RRD?
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[12-Jul-2007 18:12:06] <jbsnake> is there not a way to alter the interval that it polls the server for say "/Status/Ping" event?
[12-Jul-2007 18:12:52] <jbsnake> and once it sees that the event was triggered... send out an email right then?
[12-Jul-2007 18:13:54] <MoreDakka_> Is there a selection for Event Class?
[12-Jul-2007 18:14:06] <MoreDakka_> /Status/Ping should be in there
[12-Jul-2007 18:16:46] <jbsnake> ya... but i can't alter the interval... the only thing i can alter is the severity
[12-Jul-2007 18:17:05] <MoreDakka_> Can you add Filters?
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:16] <jbsnake> yes
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:21] <jbsnake> but not there
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:26] <jbsnake> zCollectorClientTimeout
[12-Jul-2007 18:18:32] <jbsnake> would that have anything to do with it?
[12-Jul-2007 18:20:07] <MoreDakka_> Sorry, I don't have that in v1.1.1....not sure how to get your problem fixed then
sorry.[12-Jul-2007 18:20:28] <jbsnake> it's ok.. it's going to wait until tomorrow.. it's quitten' time
[12-Jul-2007 18:20:34] <jbsnake> thanks anyway
[12-Jul-2007 18:24:20] <waldo323> maybe the daemon config for zenping? (something to look into tomorrow) or is that just what to monitor?
[12-Jul-2007 18:26:54] <waldo323> have a good day, i gtg
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[12-Jul-2007 19:07:16] <guyverix> Does anyone on here know of a safe way to update RRDtool?
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[13-Jul-2007 05:25:19] <iscream> bzed : hy ! can you tell me, how could i use shared directories, to "give" some files from windows to linux on a vmware workstation?
[13-Jul-2007 05:25:51] <bzed> iscream: is that a one time job or do you need that always?
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:10] <iscream> bzed : it would be fine one time
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:16] <bzed> use use scp
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:37] <iscream> whatis scp?
[13-Jul-2007 05:26:41] <bzed> for example the command line client you can download on the putty page
[13-Jul-2007 05:27:41] <iscream> i download it to my windows, and... what should i do in the linux to copy the files from windows to virtual os?
[13-Jul-2007 05:28:27] <bzed> you need a ssh server running
[13-Jul-2007 05:28:38] <bzed> you don;t know scp on linux?
[13-Jul-2007 05:28:45] <iscream> not yet
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[13-Jul-2007 06:26:55] <jcsilla> hi zenoss!
[13-Jul-2007 06:27:54] <jcsilla> I have a question about system perfomance of zenoss project
[13-Jul-2007 06:28:28] <jcsilla> is there anybody out there!?
[13-Jul-2007 06:29:59] <iscream> hello csilla, helyzet?
[13-Jul-2007 06:30:21] <jcsilla> hello?
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[13-Jul-2007 06:30:29] <jcsilla> helyzet?
[13-Jul-2007 06:30:38] <jcsilla> what do you meant?
[13-Jul-2007 06:30:44] <iscream> nothing
[13-Jul-2007 06:31:11] <jcsilla> opk
[13-Jul-2007 06:31:53] <jcsilla> so... we have a zenoss installation on a dell server with 1.5G of RAM...
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:15] <jcsilla> it is normal that zenoss eats all the system memory?
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:24] <iscream> no
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:48] <knutin> it's normal for a linux machine to use all the memory
[13-Jul-2007 06:32:58] <knutin> because it caches files and stuff
[13-Jul-2007 06:34:05] <jcsilla> ok, but we ran few aplications on it. just zenoss, an remote syslog from network devices..
[13-Jul-2007 06:34:48] <knutin> is the machine swapping?
[13-Jul-2007 06:34:50] <jcsilla> and python consumes too much memory.
[13-Jul-2007 06:35:51] <jcsilla> few days ago we have just 512Mb and then it swaps continiusly...
[13-Jul-2007 06:36:05] <jcsilla> 4221 zenoss 15 0 1324m 872m 2456 S 3 57.4 127:12.80 python
[13-Jul-2007 06:36:12] <jcsilla> Mem: 1555336k total, 1521088k used, 34248k free, 34352k buffers
[13-Jul-2007 06:36:13] <jcsilla> Swap: 979924k total, 780420k used, 199504k free, 303980k cached
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[13-Jul-2007 06:37:43] <jcsilla> we dont monitor any M$ windows, nor IP service, just snmp with arround 38 network devices
[13-Jul-2007 06:37:50] <knutin> woah
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:02] <knutin> one process uses over 50% of the memory?
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:32] <jcsilla> yes!
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:36] <knutin> I'm not familiar with zenoss, but a restart of that process could be smart
[13-Jul-2007 06:38:50] <bzed> jcsilla: which python version and distribution are you running?
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:07] <jcsilla> ubuntu..6.10
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:11] <bzed> jcsilla: and which process eats so much memory
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:12] <bzed> ?
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:26] <bzed> ps -Af | grep 4221
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python-dev 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 Header files and a static library for Python
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python-minimal 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 A minimal subset of the Python language (def
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:30] <jcsilla> ii python2.4 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:32] <jcsilla> ii python2.4-dev 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 Header files and a static library for Python
[13-Jul-2007 06:39:35] <jcsilla> ii python2.4-minimal 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 A minimal subset of the Python language (ver
[13-Jul-2007 06:40:24] <bzed> that should be fine, although I'm not sure if there're differences between the debian and the ubuntu version of py...
[13-Jul-2007 06:40:43] <jcsilla> zenoss 4221 1 8 Jul12 ? 02:07:17 /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python /usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/zenmodeler.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zenmodeler.conf --cycle --daemon
[13-Jul-2007 06:41:50] <bzed> I'd restart it
[13-Jul-2007 06:41:55] <bzed> should nto eat so much memory
[13-Jul-2007 06:42:39] <bzed> you can do it under settings -> daemons
[13-Jul-2007 06:42:43] <jcsilla> if we restart, time to time memory of that process raises
[13-Jul-2007 06:43:10] <jcsilla> setting -> daemons ? inside zenoss you meant?
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:22] <bzed> yeah
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:26] <jcsilla> here we had stopped zenprocess, zenwin, zenwinmodeler and zensyslog
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:47] <bzed> or bin/zenmodeler restart I think.
[13-Jul-2007 06:44:59] <jcsilla> ok.
[13-Jul-2007 06:45:17] <bzed> never played with it really. I'm more happy my debian package just works fine yet
[13-Jul-2007 06:45:23] <bzed> there'll be ubuntu packages, too
[13-Jul-2007 06:45:36] <bzed> but first it has to be finished and go into debian
[13-Jul-2007 06:47:10] <jcsilla> I usually install debian... we are testing ubuntu server...
[13-Jul-2007 06:49:19] <jcsilla> so, in your opinion it is a distro issue?
[13-Jul-2007 06:50:36] <jcsilla> we dont install any .deb for zenoss, we just download tgz from zenoss site
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[13-Jul-2007 06:51:34] <jcsilla> and.. restarting the process frees 1Gb of ram memory.. but as time goes by it raises again.
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[13-Jul-2007 06:54:54] <bzed> jcsilla: no clue if it's a distro issue
[13-Jul-2007 06:55:44] <bzed> jcsilla: if you have some time, you could test the debian pacakging - just don;'t run it in production yet.
[13-Jul-2007 07:00:38] <jcsilla> ok thank you for the advice...
[13-Jul-2007 07:01:17] <jcsilla> bye
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[13-Jul-2007 07:02:34] <bzed> hmm, without knowing how, you can;t test it
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[13-Jul-2007 09:37:13] <jbsnake_> how frequently does zenoss poll servers checking for events?
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[13-Jul-2007 11:12:48] <slarson> Can anybody tell me how to make zenoss not go crazy about my /dev filesystems being full?
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[13-Jul-2007 12:43:08] <monrad> anyone seen zenhub givning AssertionError
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[13-Jul-2007 13:20:59] <jbsnake_> Anyone know how to allow ZenMonitor to acknowledge events?
[13-Jul-2007 13:21:42] <jbsnake_> I have tried the manage_access and allowed ZenMonitor that way, but the option to acknowledge still isn't present... any suggestions?
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[13-Jul-2007 18:02:08] <rhar> so I'm running the zenoss vmware virtual appliance and I'm trying to create a new template so that I can graph the disk IO of my SAN. I add the two OID's as data sources, but when I try to create the graph the data sources multi select box is empty. Am I missing something here?
[13-Jul-2007 18:02:21] <rhar> oh btw this is version 2.0
[13-Jul-2007 18:04:14] <rhar> ah nvm
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[16-Jul-2007 02:47:10] <iscream> can someone help me with temperature monitoring?
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[16-Jul-2007 04:27:53] <iscream_> how could i install plugins for my zenoss?
[16-Jul-2007 04:28:02] <iscream_> how can i install plugins for my zenoss?
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[16-Jul-2007 05:48:45] <iscream> why couldnt i add custom thresholds?
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[16-Jul-2007 08:20:04] <Bulwinkle> good morning all
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[16-Jul-2007 08:29:55] <iscream> hy
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[16-Jul-2007 08:51:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Good morning!
[16-Jul-2007 08:51:12] <cluther> Hope you had a good weekend.
[16-Jul-2007 08:52:03] <cluther> I finally posted a response to that forum topic. http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2694
[16-Jul-2007 08:52:03] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Creating ZenPacks? (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Jul-2007 09:01:51] <jp10558> I'm using 1.1.1 and without any real warning zenactions has died
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:02] <jp10558> I've tried restarting it, but it just stays down
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:16] <jp10558> the log abruptly ends:
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:18] <jp10558> 2007-07-13 07:31:56 INFO zen.ZenActions: processed 4 rules in 0.04 secs
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:18] <jp10558> 2007-07-
[16-Jul-2007 09:02:23] <jp10558> any ideas?
[16-Jul-2007 09:04:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: good weekend... I checked that post I put up there about an hour ago and there wasn't a response... Your fingers must have been burning
[16-Jul-2007 09:04:55] <cluther> jp10558: Try running it in the foreground with "zenactions run -v 10"
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:EventClassInst=Start
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:update status set clearid = '0adb4fee358eb851fffffff' where device='mp183.lns.cornell.edu' and component='zenactions' and eventKey='' and (eventClass='/App/Stop' or eventClass='/App/Start'): --> 0
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:insert into log (evid, userName, text) select evid, "admin", "auto cleared" from status where clearid = "0adb4fee358eb851fffffff": --> 0
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:08] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:insert into history set Location='',prodState=1000,firstTime=1184591183.935,severity=0,component='zenactions',DeviceGroups='|',summary='zenactions started',dedupid='mp183.lns.cornell.edu|zenactions|/App/Start||0|zenactions started',manager='mp183.lns.cornell.edu',DeviceClass='/Server/Linux/RedHat',device='mp183.lns.cornell.edu',eventClass='/App/Start',lastTime=1184591183.935,Systems='|',message='zenactions
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:12] <jp10558> started',eventKey='',deletedTime=null,evid='0adb4fee358eb851fffffff': --> 1
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:14] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Events:DELETE FROM status WHERE clearid IS NOT NULL: --> 0
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:16] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Schedule:Maintenance window stopping Database Backup for pc49.lns.cornell.edu
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:18] <jp10558> DEBUG:zen.Schedule:Waiting 60811.141984 seconds
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:20] <jp10558> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:22] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 503, in ?
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:24] <jp10558> za.run()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:26] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 376, in run
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:28] <jp10558> self.schedule.run()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:30] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 69, in run
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:32] <jp10558> self.runEvents()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:34] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 117, in runEvents
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:36] <jp10558> self.commit()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:38] <jp10558> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 120, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:40] <jp10558> transaction.commit()
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:42] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_manager.py", line 84, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:44] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 381, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:46] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 379, in commit
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:48] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/transaction/_transaction.py", line 427, in _commitResources
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:50] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py", line 637, in tpc_vote
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:52] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 892, in tpc_vote
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:54] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ServerStub.py", line 235, in vote
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:56] <jp10558> File "opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zrpc/connection.py", line 536, in call
[16-Jul-2007 09:07:58] <jp10558> IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:00] <jp10558> Mmm, so I'm out of HD space?
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:02] <jp10558> is that what that means
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:25] <cluther> jp10558: It would appear so.. wherever you have your $ZENHOME/var
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:45] <jp10558> ahh, ok
[16-Jul-2007 09:08:46] <jp10558> thanks
[16-Jul-2007 09:09:57] <iscream> cluther : hy, i may have found another bug, or something like it
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[16-Jul-2007 09:53:56] <Bulwinkle> can't you beat people for pasting directly to channel?
[16-Jul-2007 09:55:30] <tty01> anyone know the reason why zenmodeler keeps dying
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[16-Jul-2007 09:56:09] <rodeoclown> we have the same problem with zenmodeler, dies at least once everyday
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[16-Jul-2007 09:58:44] <tty01> well at least good to know i aint the only one
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[16-Jul-2007 10:49:39] <Bulwinkle> cluther: can I run something by you on that ZenPack you posted on?
[16-Jul-2007 10:52:13] <cluther> Bulwinkle: sure
[16-Jul-2007 10:53:15] <Bulwinkle> where I break out the interface description with the if statement, then the else for everything else, can I just put another if statement to break out the VLAN type too?
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[16-Jul-2007 10:54:57] <cluther> You could.. it would be an elif in python
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[16-Jul-2007 10:55:58] <Lxy> can anyone help me with setting up Net-SNMP on Windows?
[16-Jul-2007 10:56:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: are those all case sensative?
[16-Jul-2007 10:56:14] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: what problems are you having?
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[16-Jul-2007 10:56:42] <Lxy> it doesn't appear that snmpd is installing properly. I don't have an snmpd.conf file to set up things like community strings
[16-Jul-2007 10:56:58] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm thinking about expanding the ZenPack to be an all inclusive Cisco interface thing....
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:07] <Lxy> I registered the agent service and the service is running
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:14] <Lxy> as well as the trap service
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:25] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: any particular reason you need to use NET-snmp?
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:40] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: rather than Windows SNMP service?
[16-Jul-2007 10:57:46] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, based on the info at hand it looked to be the preferred open source SNMP agent for Windows
[16-Jul-2007 10:58:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: They are case sensitive.
[16-Jul-2007 10:58:21] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: I'm running the Windows SNMP with all of my boxes and with the SNMP Informant installed and everything is lovely
[16-Jul-2007 10:58:59] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, are you able to poll things like RAID controller stats, free disk space, etc using the Windows SNMP agent?
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:12] <Bulwinkle> cluther: coolio.... I'm going to create another group under network /Device/Network/Cisco then /Router and /CatalystSwitch and /IOSSwitch...
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:51] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Sounds good, but you could actually use that map as a completely replacement for the standard InterfaceMap.
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:58] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: I'm not polling RAID controller stats (don't know about that) but I'm polling Disk space/Memory/CPU stuff like that
[16-Jul-2007 10:59:58] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It wouldn't have any adverse effects.
[16-Jul-2007 11:00:17] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, is that all done by adding MIBs to the agent?
[16-Jul-2007 11:00:23] <Bulwinkle> cluther: since my monitoring is rather Cisco-centric, it probably wouldn't hurt
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:09] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: all you need to do is install the SNMP Informant..... www.informant-systems.com (standard version)
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:29] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: a lot easier than trying all of that suff with Net-SNMP on M$
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:36] <Lxy> ok
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:44] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: you can get it working, don't get me wrong, just a hassle....
[16-Jul-2007 11:01:51] <Bulwinkle> IMHO
[16-Jul-2007 11:02:02] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, I can see that :-)
[16-Jul-2007 11:02:19] <Lxy> the documetnation is quite lacking, and I'm so new to SNMP that very little of it makes any sense
[16-Jul-2007 11:02:22] <Bulwinkle> cluther, let me see how it goes
[16-Jul-2007 11:03:14] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: I've gotten it working before, but for ZenOSS's purposes SNMP informant is all you really need....
[16-Jul-2007 11:03:31] <Lxy> cool
[16-Jul-2007 11:03:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'll let you know how I get along in a bit, thanks again for all of your help in advance
[16-Jul-2007 11:04:00] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Great. Good luck.
[16-Jul-2007 11:05:10] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, does the SysInformant/ZenOSS setup fully support SNMPv3?
[16-Jul-2007 11:06:19] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: that is SNMP dependent (Windows SNMP) I don't know if it does.... It should
[16-Jul-2007 11:06:59] <Lxy> ok
[16-Jul-2007 11:20:33] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, I have the SNMP agent and Sys Informant installed. I have the box added to ZenOSS. By default, it doesn't seem to come up with very much info. Is that a function of the MIBs on the Windows box or is there ZenOOS configuration that needs to be done to show thingslike how much RAM is installed, ect
[16-Jul-2007 11:21:01] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: that is a ZenOSS function.....
[16-Jul-2007 11:21:21] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: if you know the OIDs I can walk you through adding in the information you want.
[16-Jul-2007 11:24:53] <Lxy> I don't know any of the OIDs off hand
[16-Jul-2007 11:28:06] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: My memory installed shows up under the Hardware TAB
[16-Jul-2007 11:29:32] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, I have no information under the Hardware tab
[16-Jul-2007 11:29:50] <Lxy> memory is listed as unknwon
[16-Jul-2007 11:30:09] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: is this a device you just added or did you add it before it had SNMP Informant loaded?
[16-Jul-2007 11:30:23] <Lxy> I had it added previously, then I deleted it
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[16-Jul-2007 11:32:15] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: then you re-added after installing SNMP Informant?
[16-Jul-2007 11:32:28] <Lxy> yes
[16-Jul-2007 11:32:45] <Bulwinkle> Lxy do you have anything under the Perf tab?
[16-Jul-2007 11:33:15] <Lxy> no
[16-Jul-2007 11:33:30] <Bulwinkle> status tab?
[16-Jul-2007 11:33:55] <Lxy> very minimal inforamation under Status
[16-Jul-2007 11:34:01] <Bulwinkle> what does the SNMP sysName say?
[16-Jul-2007 11:34:24] <Lxy> BRIGHTSTOR, which is the name of my box
[16-Jul-2007 11:34:56] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: did you uninstall the net-snmp stuff?
[16-Jul-2007 11:35:02] <Lxy> yes
[16-Jul-2007 11:35:49] <Bulwinkle> click on the pulldown tab next to status and hit Model again
[16-Jul-2007 11:36:26] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do I need to restart something after I do all of those changes?
[16-Jul-2007 11:37:09] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, did that, no change
[16-Jul-2007 11:38:17] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You do need to restart zope.
[16-Jul-2007 11:38:49] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I did that once to pick up the CiscoInterfaceMap (thats what I named it)
[16-Jul-2007 11:41:22] <cluther> Once you set your plugin to be used for the device class, you only have to remodel the device.
[16-Jul-2007 11:41:27] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: can you go to the console on the ZenOSS server and do a snmpwalk -c *YOURCOMMUNITY* -v2c *DEVICEIP* system
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[16-Jul-2007 11:42:04] <Bulwinkle> cluther: thats what I was hoping for
[16-Jul-2007 11:43:42] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, done
[16-Jul-2007 11:44:40] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: can you copy it to a pastebin?
[16-Jul-2007 11:44:59] <Lxy> sure, hang on
[16-Jul-2007 11:46:36] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do I have to restart zope any time I make a change to that InterfaceMap.py in my Zenpack?
[16-Jul-2007 11:48:19] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, http://www.pastebin.ca/621983
[16-Jul-2007 11:48:19] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 621983 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[16-Jul-2007 11:48:53] <bzed> Bulwinkle: in general you ahve to restart zope if you change a product, except you run it in debug mode (which can be _slow_)
[16-Jul-2007 11:49:36] <Bulwinkle> bzed: guess I should stop fatfingering my stuff then
[16-Jul-2007 11:52:46] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: can you go to the console on the ZenOSS server and do a snmpget -c *YOURCOMMUNITY* -v2c *DEVICEIP* .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.0
[16-Jul-2007 11:52:55] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: let me know what it returns
[16-Jul-2007 11:54:59] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when you get a sec I have a couple of quick questions again
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[16-Jul-2007 11:56:15] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: when you get a sec I have a couple of quick questions again
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[16-Jul-2007 12:01:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: The types for the interfaces I specified startswith should show up as the om.type values correct? Now all of my interface types are coming back as unknown......
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[16-Jul-2007 12:05:46] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: you still there?
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[16-Jul-2007 12:12:03] <cluther_> Bulwinkle: The startswith is actually looking at the name of the interface. The next line is the one that sets the type.
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[16-Jul-2007 12:18:19] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: they are all coming back as unknown now, even the fastethernets
[16-Jul-2007 12:27:58] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: any ideas?
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[16-Jul-2007 12:32:38] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, sorry about that, stepped out for a few
[16-Jul-2007 12:34:32] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, get a "no such variable name in this MIB" error
[16-Jul-2007 12:34:48] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: looks like the SNMP informant isn't loaded
[16-Jul-2007 12:35:16] <Lxy> ok
[16-Jul-2007 12:35:27] <Lxy> any good ways to check over the config?
[16-Jul-2007 12:35:43] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: should show up in the Add/Remove programs as SNMP Informant Agent
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:09] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, yes
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:21] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: Its there?
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:25] <Lxy> yes it is
[16-Jul-2007 12:36:55] <Bulwinkle> hrm.... Seems to work fine on all of my servers. Try restarting your SNMP services
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[16-Jul-2007 12:38:09] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, restarted SNMP, snmpget still gives the same error
[16-Jul-2007 12:40:30] <Bulwinkle> Lxy: Well I've given you the same steps I used... I'd post to the forums
[16-Jul-2007 12:41:05] <Lxy> alright, thanks
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[16-Jul-2007 12:41:50] <Bulwinkle> cluther: man I'
[16-Jul-2007 12:42:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: man I'd really wish you'd stick with one NICK
[16-Jul-2007 12:43:33] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you listening on this nick now?
[16-Jul-2007 12:43:50] <cluther> yeah
[16-Jul-2007 12:44:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: The types for the interfaces I specified startswith should show up as the om.type values correct? Now all of my interface types are coming back as unknown......
[16-Jul-2007 12:45:53] <cluther> ok.. I missed the pastebin of your InterfaceMap if you sent it. Could you resend?
[16-Jul-2007 12:46:43] <bzed> cluther: do you know anybody who's willing to test eh debian packages?
[16-Jul-2007 12:46:49] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I pasted the part I edited in the Forum
[16-Jul-2007 12:47:23] <bzed> cluther: I'm waiting for zenoss 2.0.3 at least, and I'll probably move to zope 2.10 before they'll be uploaded to debian, but it would be good if somebody would test them
[16-Jul-2007 12:47:43] <Bulwinkle> cluther: or you can look in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/141777
[16-Jul-2007 12:47:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
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[16-Jul-2007 12:50:46] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Maybe there is a problem with the indentation. You don't have any tabs in there, right?
[16-Jul-2007 12:51:11] <Bulwinkle> cluther: oh yeah, matching evertything up, just before the commands
[16-Jul-2007 12:53:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: getting rid of them and modeling again (after zope restart)
[16-Jul-2007 12:54:56] <Bulwinkle> cluther: nothing, Guess I should return it to stock and see what happens....
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[16-Jul-2007 13:00:18] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeppers.... still unknown.... man, I don't know if I'm following any of your instructions anymore
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[16-Jul-2007 13:03:20] <Bulwinkle> jeez
[16-Jul-2007 13:03:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: yeppers.... still unknown.... man, I don't know if I'm following any of your instructions anymore
[16-Jul-2007 13:07:28] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: I'll go back to the way things were until I can have some time with you
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[16-Jul-2007 13:39:23] <Stravad> does zenoss keep track of raw data in the DB or does it aggregate everything into RRDs?
[16-Jul-2007 13:41:09] <creiht> Stravad: It uses RRDs, it uses the Zope DB for configuration, and MySQL for events
[16-Jul-2007 13:42:51] <Stravad> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:13] <solarce> better brush up on your rrd parsing
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:14] <Stravad> I have some data I want to track in a lossless fashion
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:27] <creiht> Stravad: For how long?
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:30] <Stravad> eternally
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:46] <solarce> creiht: gotta love those unlimited storage budgets
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:55] <Stravad> yup
[16-Jul-2007 13:43:57] <creiht> haha
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:11] <creiht> Stravad: How many data points?
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:19] <solarce> Stravad: maybe you can put a hook in the code that writes the rrd to also shove it into the db?
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:21] <Stravad> long term quite a few
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:26] <Stravad> solarce: kinda what I was thinking
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:36] <solarce> behold the power of open sores!
[16-Jul-2007 13:44:40] <Stravad> indeed
[16-Jul-2007 13:45:04] <Stravad> I've been banging my head against the wall that is cacti, trying to get it to do my bidding, but I'm allergic to php so that whole experience has been ... subpar.
[16-Jul-2007 13:45:38] <creiht> Stravad: Do you need all the same graphing and everything long term?
[16-Jul-2007 13:46:19] <creiht> or just the data?
[16-Jul-2007 13:46:24] <Stravad> what do you mean when you ask 'all the same'? Do I need to be able to graph said data points long term? yes, but there's packages out there that make it pretty straight forward to chart stuff out of a DB.
[16-Jul-2007 13:47:09] <creiht> Stravad: Yeah... that is what I was getting at... It would be fairly trivial to pull the data periodically from the RRD and put in a more long term storage
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[16-Jul-2007 14:52:17] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I've gone back to my original config until you have time to look at my issues
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[16-Jul-2007 15:05:05] <WS_> Are any of you guys using a ubuntu 6.10 setup?
[16-Jul-2007 15:05:24] <WS_> I'm having problems with apache mod_rewrite
[16-Jul-2007 15:06:08] <WS_> I had the default apache install backed up default virtual host, and rewrote it, now when I try to access zenoss via port 80 it gives me a 403 forbidden
[16-Jul-2007 15:13:21] <Bulwinkle> WS_: shouldn't you be accessing it over 8080?
[16-Jul-2007 15:13:36] <WS_> yes but I was using mod_rewrite to access via 80
[16-Jul-2007 15:13:46] <WS_> with apache
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:09] <WS_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setup-zenoss-with-apache/
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:12] <WS_> with ubuntu 6.10 the configuration is supposed to be a bit different
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:42] <WS_> http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/plone-apache/virtualhost
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:42] <WS_> so I used that config to overwrite the default virtual host on apache
[16-Jul-2007 15:14:55] <WS_> and changed the http rewrite line to be the same as the zenoss documentation
[16-Jul-2007 15:15:45] <WS_> this is my first time ever using rewrite to change ports
[16-Jul-2007 15:15:55] <WS_> I'm more accustomed to clean urls
[16-Jul-2007 15:17:34] <bzed> WS_: you need to configure apache's proxy module
[16-Jul-2007 15:18:35] <WS_>
[16-Jul-2007 15:19:10] <WS_> do you know which proxy module?
[16-Jul-2007 15:19:13] <WS_> proxy_http?
[16-Jul-2007 15:20:57] <bzed> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/proxy.conf
[16-Jul-2007 15:21:07] <WS_> are you using a similar setup?
[16-Jul-2007 15:21:40] <bzed> yes
[16-Jul-2007 15:21:57] <bzed> but not for zenoss
[16-Jul-2007 15:22:35] <WS_> very interesting
[16-Jul-2007 15:23:57] <WS_> now it's trying to rewrite to https
[16-Jul-2007 15:24:29] <WS_> https://syslog.telelanguage.local/zport/acl_users/cookieAuthHelper/login_form?came_from=https%3A//syslog.telelanguage.local/zport/dmd
[16-Jul-2007 15:24:29] <WS_> crazy
[16-Jul-2007 15:27:24] <WS_> no more https, but now it's having some kind of cookie issue
[16-Jul-2007 15:27:29] <WS_> I think I'm going to stick with 8080 for now
[16-Jul-2007 15:27:45] <WS_> might change the port with the firewall and only access it externally
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[16-Jul-2007 15:28:56] <bzed> WS_: sounds more liek you want to learn how to use apache properly.
[16-Jul-2007 15:29:31] <WS_> or atleast apache's modules
[16-Jul-2007 15:29:36] <WS_> I usually have no problems with apache
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[16-Jul-2007 15:30:02] <WS_> I've never messed with mod_proxy before or rewriting ports
[16-Jul-2007 15:30:15] <WS_> I've used nginx for proxy before
[16-Jul-2007 15:31:43] <bzed> WS_: http://paste.debian.net/32857
[16-Jul-2007 15:31:43] <adytum-bot> Title: #debian.de paste zone (at paste.debian.net)
[16-Jul-2007 15:33:07] <WS_> does proxy.conf need to be in enabled to or just available?
[16-Jul-2007 15:35:13] <bzed> run a2enmod proxy_http
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:10] <WS_> I got it working
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:19] <Rumpkie> greetings
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:21] <WS_> thanks for the help
[16-Jul-2007 15:38:34] <WS_> now to update from 1.x to 2.x
[16-Jul-2007 15:39:07] <WS_> one of the things I did was changed it from fqdn to ip
[16-Jul-2007 15:39:20] <WS_> I did a few things before the restart, one was changing it to your conf
[16-Jul-2007 15:40:51] <Rumpkie> got a question for you all.... Im rather new to linux and Im trying to install Zenoss on new FC6 install I followed instruction and all the zenoss processes are running but I cannot reach the web interface
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:24] <WS_> on port 8080?
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:34] <Rumpkie> correct
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:44] <Rumpkie> and it is enabled on the firewall
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:55] <Rumpkie> but I can't even get to it throught the loopback
[16-Jul-2007 15:41:58] <WS_> can you access it from localhost?
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:04] <Rumpkie> no
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:09] <WS_> lynx localhost:8080
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:09] <WS_> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:18] <WS_> I'm not a fedora user :S
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:58] <WS_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss I followed this install a while back
[16-Jul-2007 15:42:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[16-Jul-2007 15:44:30] <Rumpkie> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 15:44:41] <Rumpkie> well I used the RPM install
[16-Jul-2007 15:45:32] <Rumpkie> and MySQL is started
[16-Jul-2007 15:50:27] <Rumpkie> although apachÃ��Ã�© was not
[16-Jul-2007 15:52:38] <Rumpkie> no effect though
[16-Jul-2007 15:52:47] <Rumpkie> still nothing :-(
[16-Jul-2007 15:58:42] <Rumpkie> anybody else have any ideas?
[16-Jul-2007 15:59:56] <bzed> you don't need apache
[16-Jul-2007 16:00:01] <bzed> but ideas - no.
[16-Jul-2007 16:01:47] <Rumpkie> oui
[16-Jul-2007 16:01:58] <Rumpkie> well is there anyway I can tell where things are falling apart?
[16-Jul-2007 16:02:19] <Rumpkie> like a log someplace of what is and or isn't getting initialized?
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[16-Jul-2007 16:08:59] <bzed> Rumpkie: sorry, I have no clue how the rpm works. try to poke cluther when he is around
[16-Jul-2007 16:17:35] <maff> is it possible to model an entire group of devices at the same time
[16-Jul-2007 16:20:35] <Rumpkie> ok well thanks for you input
[16-Jul-2007 16:23:01] <Rumpkie> hmm
[16-Jul-2007 16:23:05] <Rumpkie> well it works now
[16-Jul-2007 16:24:23] <Rumpkie> I think there was somthing wrong with the firewall
[16-Jul-2007 16:24:40] <Rumpkie> that and I placed my sleg hammer on top of the computer and had a few words with it
[16-Jul-2007 16:24:45] <Rumpkie> .... ok thanks guys
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[16-Jul-2007 16:30:20] <maj> i cant get service monitoring to work at all... it keeps saying service OK all the time, no matter if its up or down
[16-Jul-2007 16:30:32] <maj> anything i should look at?
[16-Jul-2007 16:38:21] <maj> anybody?
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[16-Jul-2007 16:42:34] <F350> hello
[16-Jul-2007 16:42:55] <F350> need some help for an issue
[16-Jul-2007 16:43:09] <F350> i already posted my problem on the forum
[16-Jul-2007 16:43:47] <F350> did not get an answer, i tought maybe in the irc i will get it
[16-Jul-2007 16:44:35] <F350> lot of people here... everybody sleeping ?
[16-Jul-2007 16:48:10] <F350> zzzzz
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[16-Jul-2007 16:50:24] <monrad> any release today?
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[16-Jul-2007 16:55:18] <F350> anyone here ?
[16-Jul-2007 16:56:05] <maj> ya
[16-Jul-2007 16:56:10] <maj> trying to get help too
[16-Jul-2007 16:57:27] <F350> what is ur problem, maybe i can help
[16-Jul-2007 16:58:21] <maj> i cant get service monitoring to work at all... it keeps saying service OK all the time, no matter if its up or down
[16-Jul-2007 16:58:53] <maj> i am running the vmware appliance image
[16-Jul-2007 17:00:27] <F350> did u check ur logs ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:01:55] <maj> i don't see anything unusual
[16-Jul-2007 17:02:24] <maj> do i need any special packs installed onto the appliance to monitor IP services
[16-Jul-2007 17:02:25] <maj> ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:02:47] <bzed> maj: no, the vmware image should just work
[16-Jul-2007 17:03:01] <bzed> is the first start finished allready?
[16-Jul-2007 17:03:54] <maj> first start of zenoss?
[16-Jul-2007 17:04:15] <bzed> of the vmware image
[16-Jul-2007 17:05:18] <maj> yup
[16-Jul-2007 17:05:32] <maj> i've restarted it a few times
[16-Jul-2007 17:07:40] <maj> where does it log by default
[16-Jul-2007 17:07:41] <maj> ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:07:53] <bzed> no clue, never used it
[16-Jul-2007 17:08:08] <bzed> maj: try to ask cluther, he knows it
[16-Jul-2007 17:08:31] <maj> oh, nm, i found it.. lemme look at zenstatus logs
[16-Jul-2007 17:09:14] <F350> have too a queqtion if someone can help
[16-Jul-2007 17:09:37] <F350> have a prob in event viewer since i upgraded to 2.0.2
[16-Jul-2007 17:09:47] <maj> hrm, may be i found it
[16-Jul-2007 17:10:00] <F350> can't sort or add event Class column to the event viewer
[16-Jul-2007 17:10:09] <F350> do you have this problem too ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:11:03] <F350> even with a fresh install i have the same problem (on the same server)
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[16-Jul-2007 17:12:32] <F350> i opened a forum thread for this but have no replies
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:02] <maj> i can try
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:08] <maj> but i am running appliance
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:23] <F350> can u try it on the VMWare image ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:39] <maj> ya
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:43] <F350> thx
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:45] <maj> you want me to Add Event?
[16-Jul-2007 17:14:56] <F350> no add the Event Class column
[16-Jul-2007 17:15:35] <F350> so u can have an eventClass column in the event viewer
[16-Jul-2007 17:15:54] <F350> u can do it in the event manager
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[16-Jul-2007 17:17:12] <maj> umm, i don't see anywhere that would say Add event class in event manager
[16-Jul-2007 17:17:29] <maj> nm
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[16-Jul-2007 17:17:40] <F350> in the first page of the event manager, u can drag columns
[16-Jul-2007 17:18:12] <F350> so u can modify the colums that u want to show in event viewer
[16-Jul-2007 17:20:03] <maj> see, the first page of event manager has the settings of mysql server etc.
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[16-Jul-2007 17:20:18] <maj> is that the one you're talking abotu?
[16-Jul-2007 17:20:43] <F350> no the second one then lol, sorry do not have access to my zenoss
[16-Jul-2007 17:21:29] <maj> ok, the second one is Fields, and i can drag and drop stuff there
[16-Jul-2007 17:21:37] <F350> yeah that's it
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:03] <F350> can u add the eventClass field to the required fields ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:06] <maj> in the Default Event ID box i have EventClass
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:10] <maj> hold on
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:32] <maj> ya, just did
[16-Jul-2007 17:22:49] <F350> ok, can u see if in the event viwer u have this field ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:23:46] <maj> ya
[16-Jul-2007 17:23:57] <F350> this is crazy
[16-Jul-2007 17:24:04] <F350> u have 2.0.2 right ?
[16-Jul-2007 17:24:48] <maj> umm, whatever was current as of a week ago
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:01] <maj> i can't find ver anywhere
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:15] <F350> u can see that in preferences maybe
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:22] <maj> i am looking there
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:26] <maj> no versions
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:36] <maj> hold on, i can probably find it in the readme of the vmware image
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:47] <F350> no it's ok, thx for ur help
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:58] <F350> don't want to bother u more
[16-Jul-2007 17:25:59] <maj> uhhh
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:03] <maj> its 2.0.0
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:17] <F350> ok, in the 2.0 i had this working
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:27] <maj> ahh
[16-Jul-2007 17:26:48] <maj> sorry, if i get this to work, i am never upgrading... jk
[16-Jul-2007 17:27:24] <F350> lol, to be honest i don't know if it's a but or not since nobody replied to my question
[16-Jul-2007 17:27:31] <F350> bug
[16-Jul-2007 17:27:45] <F350> altought it is easy to check it
[16-Jul-2007 17:28:26] <F350> thx again
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[16-Jul-2007 17:31:41] <maj> np
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[16-Jul-2007 20:46:17] <WS_> how do you go about adding another discovery protocol
[16-Jul-2007 20:46:19] <WS_> like ssh or ping
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[17-Jul-2007 02:37:10] <iscream> hy all, can anybody help me in sending event using rest call? i know there is in the howto, but could anybody help me with it???
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[17-Jul-2007 05:50:31] <iscream> could someone help in zenoss?
[17-Jul-2007 06:11:43] <iscream> anybody here...?
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[17-Jul-2007 07:50:16] <iscream> cluther : hy! how do you do
[17-Jul-2007 07:52:32] <cluther> iscream: I do alright. How're things?
[17-Jul-2007 07:55:59] <iscream> cluther : thx, i go forward slowly but sure:D
[17-Jul-2007 07:56:14] <cluther> iscream: Sure is a good thing.
[17-Jul-2007 07:57:10] <iscream> cluther : is it possible in zenoss to make new deviceclasses (i found it out it is), but other "main page", for example PC doesnt must show the same info-s like a printer
[17-Jul-2007 07:59:09] <cluther> iscream: It definitely is possible. Device classes define what is modeled and monitored on a device, so you'd have to be sure to setup the zCollectorPlugins and performance templates according to how you wanted devices in that class to be modeled and discovered.
[17-Jul-2007 07:59:12] <iscream> cluther: exactly i want a panel, which sends me event info and i would like to store the last status, for example the panel sends me info events in the summary with the temperature, and if i go to this 'device' on the main page appears the actual temperature
[17-Jul-2007 08:00:02] <cluther> iscream: Have you figured out how to get this temperature value from your device yet?
[17-Jul-2007 08:00:58] <iscream> cluther : my boss said the temperature would be from a thermometer in the serverroom
[17-Jul-2007 08:01:28] <cluther> iscream: So this thermometer would have an IP address?
[17-Jul-2007 08:01:36] <iscream> cluther : some told me i should do with mibs, but i cannot find the correct mib
[17-Jul-2007 08:03:05] <iscream> cluther : the panel would handle the thermometer, and find out from it the temperature, and takes it in the REST command to send event
[17-Jul-2007 08:03:39] <iscream> cluther : do you see what i mean?
[17-Jul-2007 08:04:23] <cluther> iscream: I think you're going about this in the wrong way. A better way would be to add the thermometer as a device, and add a performance template that pulled the temperature via an SNMP data source.
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[17-Jul-2007 08:05:54] <iscream> cluther : this would be the other solution, yes
[17-Jul-2007 08:07:09] <FEON> Anyone have instructions on getting Zenoss to work with Fedora 7. I just past the python2.4 hassle but it still wont run on the 7 release. And is there any word when zenoss is going to move to a more current release of python
[17-Jul-2007 08:09:22] <iscream> cluther : how is it, when i go to devices-> make a new sub-device called thermo->go to template tab-> there device and add new datasource which informs me via SNMP the temperature, is this what you tell me?
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[17-Jul-2007 08:11:29] <cluther> iscream: yes
[17-Jul-2007 08:11:45] <iscream> cluther : thx
[17-Jul-2007 08:12:40] <cluther> FEON: RHEL5 and the latest SuSE are still using Python 2.4. At the moment that is a preferred installation target. Once those go to 2.5 it will become a priority for us.
[17-Jul-2007 08:12:53] <cluther> FEON: What kind of problem are you having getting it installed?
[17-Jul-2007 08:13:03] <iscream> cluther: last time when you helped me with the graph and disk info...it worked fine,from after that day until now, it is again that unknown status, and now perf graph, and i havent changed anything i guess....how could it happened/or not happened?:S
[17-Jul-2007 08:13:27] <cluther> iscream: Did you move it to a different device class?
[17-Jul-2007 08:15:48] <FEON> cluster, with the install, I have to get python2.4, install it and use it (aka the link thing as per work around posted on the net). As it turns out you then can not use python2.5 as stated in the work around instructions but must continue to use puthon2.4. The bottomline, zenoss needs to be ported to python2.5
[17-Jul-2007 08:18:16] <iscream> cluther : no, i havent, it is still in the 'server/windows'
[17-Jul-2007 08:18:25] <iscream> where it worked fine
[17-Jul-2007 08:19:37] <cluther> iscream: Are there any events on the device that indicate a problem collecting the data? If you go to Settings/Daemons are all of the daemons running?
[17-Jul-2007 08:20:20] <iscream> zenhub was off
[17-Jul-2007 08:22:11] <iscream> i started it now, and modelled again the device, and i will wait what happens
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[17-Jul-2007 08:23:20] <Merciless> *ping*
[17-Jul-2007 08:24:20] <cluther> Hi Merciless.
[17-Jul-2007 08:24:32] <Merciless> Hi there
[17-Jul-2007 08:24:33] <FEON> cluster, zenoss is now up on F-7 "but", you have to use python2.4 for both install and runtime and zensocket needs the owner/group-to-root/wheel and chmod u+s modifications made for it to finally run
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:29] <Merciless>
before I start.. i'm a newbie to SNMP monitoring and zenoss... So before I hassle people, does anyone know good tutorials that can help? Trying to implement it in a mid size company[17-Jul-2007 08:25:32] <cluther> FEON: Good, and yes.. that's right about zensocket. It is the setuid socket creator that allows zenping, zensyslog and zentrap to run as the zenoss user.
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:49] <Merciless> Already has a system of snmp monitoring but trying to replace it. Got Zenoss vmware demo up and running, but not sure how to monitor things like SNMP
[17-Jul-2007 08:25:55] <Merciless> etc
[17-Jul-2007 08:26:00] <Merciless> *CPU not SNMP :/
[17-Jul-2007 08:27:48] <cluther> Merciless: If you don't mind PowerPoint format too much, a good SNMP primer is at: www.karlquinn.com/openresources/NDS23Nov04.ppt
[17-Jul-2007 08:28:05] <cluther> Merciless: It can really save a lot of time to understand SNMP from the beginning.
[17-Jul-2007 08:28:48] <Merciless> Well I'm a placement student at the momnent.. so rather than get something working but not understanding it, I'd rather learn it
so thanks very much. Will give that presentation a read![17-Jul-2007 08:29:04] <iscream> Merciless : you can gogglie it ' SNMP Beginning'
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:05] <iscream> or
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:22] <iscream> Merciless: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/snmp.htm
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:22] <Merciless> gogglie? thats a new term for it
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:43] <iscream> Merciless : anyway, you know what i mean:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:56] <cluther> Merciless: However, Zenoss should monitor CPU on most devices right out of the box. Windows will require that you install the SNMP Informant MIB extension (http://www.snmp-informant.com/) to get CPU/Memory/Paging informatin.
[17-Jul-2007 08:29:56] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[17-Jul-2007 08:30:22] <Merciless> If our current DMON system already monitors CPU on the Server, I should be able to monitor it using Zenoss without changing anything right?
[17-Jul-2007 08:30:39] <Merciless> im planning on running 2 systems side by side to ensure its working as it should
[17-Jul-2007 08:30:40] <iscream> and install the snmp service as well in the program install screen in windows
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:14] <cluther> Merciless: It depends on how DMON gets the information, but if it is via SNMP that assumption seems valid.
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:46] <Merciless>
Right. Reading time for me. Much appreciated [17-Jul-2007 08:31:52] <iscream>
[17-Jul-2007 08:31:56] <iscream> Merciless : have fun!:D
[17-Jul-2007 08:32:06] <Merciless> lol will do!
[17-Jul-2007 08:33:20] <cluther> If you run into any problems, iscream is always here to help.
[17-Jul-2007 08:33:46] <iscream> cluther : is it ok, when i want to delete a device in the device list, i put a tick on it, and tab delete device nothing happens, but if i go into the device screen, and i delete the device there, its ok?
[17-Jul-2007 08:34:02] <iscream> cluther : dont be mad ... im just noob with a lot of questions for you:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:34:51] <cluther> iscream: I'm not mad at all. Just trying to make bad jokes.
[17-Jul-2007 08:35:38] <cluther> iscream: I'll see if I can reproduce that device deletion thing.
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[17-Jul-2007 08:36:21] <iscream> cluther: and i cant speak english xD, and i articulated not well:), so i feel shame for the lot of things disturbing you with my questionsXD
[17-Jul-2007 08:36:55] <iscream> cluther : anyway, im from hungary, i donno if i mentioned it, so sorry for my english:D
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:15] <cluther> iscream: You write well enough for me to understand. English is my first language and I still struggle with it occasionally.
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:27] <cluther> iscream: Ok.. more than occasionally.
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[17-Jul-2007 08:37:49] <iscream> ehh
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:51] <iscream>
[17-Jul-2007 08:37:52] <iscream> its ok
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:01] <iscream> maybe the beers doing it to you...XD
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:11] <iscream> -to +with
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:27] <cluther> hehe
[17-Jul-2007 08:38:47] <iscream> cluther : may i ask where r u from?
[17-Jul-2007 08:39:34] <cluther> iscream: Right outside of Washington, DC, US
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:03] <iscream> ohh, thats nice...whats the weather like there?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:16] <cluther> iscream: Very hot, hazy and humid.
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:25] <iscream> here in hungary its 2pm and its about 42celsius
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:38] <Merciless> its cold here in the UK
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:44] <Merciless> been raining all damn summer so far
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:46] <cluther> iscream: That is HOT!
[17-Jul-2007 08:40:58] <cluther> Merciless: Yeah.. Wimbledon was crazy.
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:06] <Merciless> yup
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:08] <iscream> im glad im in an airconditioned office
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:11] <Merciless> im a big big tennis fan haha
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:12] <iscream> come here
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:15] <Merciless> so was ashame
[17-Jul-2007 08:41:17] <iscream> its terrible:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:42:00] <cluther> iscream: Thanks but not thanks!
[17-Jul-2007 08:42:09] <cluther> Merciless: ashame?
[17-Jul-2007 08:42:49] <iscream> cluther: and if i have a cold beer for you? in change you helped/help me with zenoss..?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:04] <Merciless> dissapointing that there was lots of rain so not much tennis
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:09] <iscream> what time is it now at the US?
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:18] <iscream> in
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:21] <iscream> not at :S
[17-Jul-2007 08:43:31] <iscream> i have to work on my English...
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:11] <cluther> Merciless: The final was still amazing.
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:28] <Merciless> Shame Nadal couldn't get a winner though
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:39] <iscream> everyone is tennis fan, just im not?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:40] <Merciless> I'll be cheering on Andy Murray at the US Open
[17-Jul-2007 08:44:45] <iscream> one of they
[17-Jul-2007 08:45:40] <iscream> someone football/soccer maybe...?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:46:02] <Merciless> I'm a big Leeds United fan here in England. Shame we're rubbish now
[17-Jul-2007 08:51:17] <Merciless> cluther : What MIB's are by default being used by Zenoss?
[17-Jul-2007 08:51:50] <Merciless> Also, when creating a new MIB, OID Mappings I assume is the number identifier of the MIB? What about the Trap?
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:18] <iscream> sry, phone
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:28] <iscream> so
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:30] <iscream> FORZA MILAN!:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:37] <Merciless> lol
[17-Jul-2007 08:55:51] <iscream> why lol?
[17-Jul-2007 08:56:07] <iscream> dont you like milan, or what?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:58:28] <iscream> cluther are you around?:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:58:37] <Merciless> nono I like Milan
[17-Jul-2007 08:58:51] <iscream> my boss just phoned me some new idea, or question:P
[17-Jul-2007 08:59:00] <iscream> Merciless : your luck XD
[17-Jul-2007 08:59:50] <Merciless> Hmmm it would be great if there was a specific Zenoss tutorial.. with how to configure Zenoss within the network for monitoring and how to set it up to monitor things like CPU...
[17-Jul-2007 09:00:29] <iscream> Merciless : admin guide
[17-Jul-2007 09:02:31] <Merciless> thank you. Have an ice cream <3
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:17] <iscream> lol
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:23] <iscream> it would be nice:D
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:40] <Merciless> lol
[17-Jul-2007 09:03:40] <iscream> but in this work, they dont give me such things as icecream...:D
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[17-Jul-2007 09:55:46] <Merciless> argh this is all going way over my head
[17-Jul-2007 09:56:05] <Merciless> shame its just not a matter of auto finds all devices and you can select what services and things to monitor on each device
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[17-Jul-2007 09:58:27] <iscream> it contains auto discovery
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[17-Jul-2007 10:01:57] <Merciless> not in the sense i mean iscream
[17-Jul-2007 10:01:58] <Merciless>
[17-Jul-2007 10:02:18] <Merciless> my auto discovery is click a button, auto lists all servers and starts monitoring them.. sorted
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:09] <iscream> ...lazy:D
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:24] <Merciless> i dont seem to be getting my head around all this
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:28] <Merciless> I understand what a MIB is now
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:32] <Merciless> i understnad what SNMP is and does
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:40] <Merciless> but getting Zenoss to work.. is what I dont understand lol!
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:45] <Merciless> even following the user guide
[17-Jul-2007 10:06:59] <Merciless> because technically i have it working.. and when a discovered server goes down, it alerts me
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:09] <Merciless> but monitoring CPU usage, and monitoring a windows service.. i cant get them working.
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:27] <iscream> what type of cpu do u want monitor?
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:30] <iscream> windows/linux?
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:35] <Merciless> primarily windows.
[17-Jul-2007 10:07:47] <iscream> you need 2 download snmp informant
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:20] <iscream> http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:20] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:23] <iscream> to your windows pc
[17-Jul-2007 10:08:48] <iscream> i guess you installed the snmp service , so thats all
[17-Jul-2007 10:09:26] <Merciless> well here's an example
[17-Jul-2007 10:09:34] <Merciless> in my company.. we have a domain controller called LDS2DC1.
[17-Jul-2007 10:09:48] <Merciless> Currently our SNMP Monitoring system will provide alerts on HD Usage, CPU, etc etc...
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:01] <iscream> yep
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:04] <Merciless> There is only the main SNMP service active on LDS2DC1.
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:15] <Merciless> So now I want to set up Zenoss to monitor the same things on that server.
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:21] <Merciless> Just to try and get an idea of it working
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:30] <Merciless> I've stuck in the host of Zenoss on DC1
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:53] <iscream> and where is the zenos installed?
[17-Jul-2007 10:10:57] <iscream> on the lds2?
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[17-Jul-2007 10:11:26] <Merciless> LDS2WKS2
[17-Jul-2007 10:11:31] <Merciless> same domain same subnet
[17-Jul-2007 10:11:51] <Merciless> i manually discovered LDS2DC1 which worked.. though it wont tell me specific hardware or software information about DC1 in Zenoss
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:02] <iscream> when?
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:19] <iscream> 'cause after the adding it takes a while when it works fine
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:26] <iscream> performance graph, disk usage etc
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:45] <Merciless> So once its added to Zenoss it should start monitoring those things straight away?
[17-Jul-2007 10:12:58] <iscream> no
[17-Jul-2007 10:13:10] <iscream> ~30-40 minutes after
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[17-Jul-2007 10:13:32] <iscream> rere cluther
[17-Jul-2007 10:14:23] <Merciless> ok iscream but for example, now that i've added lds2dc1, and it can ping it and detect the snmp.. how would I set variables for when to alert me regarding CPU usage or HD usage etc
[17-Jul-2007 10:14:31] <Merciless> so if the CPU gets too much, or HD gets too full
[17-Jul-2007 10:14:47] <iscream> at alerting rules
[17-Jul-2007 10:15:20] <Merciless> aha!
[17-Jul-2007 10:15:52] <iscream> you can add alerting rules, or thresholds
[17-Jul-2007 10:16:06] <iscream> thresholds at the device's templates
[17-Jul-2007 10:19:50] <Merciless> should zenoss be able to tell me the CPU details of LDS2DC1
[17-Jul-2007 10:19:59] <Merciless> I cant find the way to set the alerting rule or threshold for anything...
[17-Jul-2007 10:20:12] <Merciless> I found alerting rules but no way to relate that to things like resource usage...
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[17-Jul-2007 10:21:38] <iscream> resource usage with thresholds
[17-Jul-2007 10:21:46] <iscream> for example 90% cpu usage
[17-Jul-2007 10:21:59] <iscream> there are an example in the admin guide
[17-Jul-2007 10:22:18] <Merciless> ok i'll try and find the example
[17-Jul-2007 10:22:43] <Merciless> the only CPU Usage example I could find had the section blank which has been "left black intentionally"
[17-Jul-2007 10:24:24] <iscream> zenoss admin guide2.0 page 117
[17-Jul-2007 10:27:10] <Merciless> The thing is... For the device, it doesnt have anything for filesystem
[17-Jul-2007 10:27:23] <Merciless> it has no variables for that device thats been input automatically.. im assuming thats what snmp informant does?
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[17-Jul-2007 10:27:35] <Merciless> weird how our current DMON is monitoring that without it though?
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[17-Jul-2007 10:28:17] <iscream> there is other datasource for example sysuptime, or at the filesystem disk usage percent and so on
[17-Jul-2007 10:28:59] <mohsen> hi, when I run zenperfsnmp manually I get this error. any idea about what's wrong?
[17-Jul-2007 10:29:03] <mohsen> ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error sending event: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Trac
[17-Jul-2007 10:29:05] <mohsen> eback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[17-Jul-2007 10:29:22] <maff> solid blue the easy to configure button should not be
[17-Jul-2007 10:30:29] <iscream> maff: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2123&sid=6c2e1a1663263297f445516fa452dee4
[17-Jul-2007 10:30:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - R: R: R: r5411 zenperfsnmp error (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2007 10:30:29] <iscream> read after
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[17-Jul-2007 10:33:36] <Lxy> anyone willing to help me with a Ciasco router in ZenOSS?
[17-Jul-2007 10:33:40] <Lxy> Cisco*
[17-Jul-2007 10:35:07] <Lxy> I want to set up traffic graphs and I'm a bit lost
[17-Jul-2007 10:42:14] <mohsen> Lxy: I'm having the same problem!
[17-Jul-2007 10:42:36] <mohsen> Lxy: how far did you go?
[17-Jul-2007 10:45:06] <Lxy> well, I have my snmp stuff set up on the Cisco. It correctly identifies my Cisco network config, so I know it's working
[17-Jul-2007 10:45:47] <Lxy> a doc I found suggests that the data can be found by drilling dow to the interface in the OS tab. I have a meeting to go to, so hopefully when I get back in 1+ hours I'll have a blip on the graph
[17-Jul-2007 10:46:48] <mohsen> Lxy: it might be the same problem as mine. run zenperfsnmp manually. zenperfsnmp run -v10 -d "yourmachinename" . see what errors you get
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[17-Jul-2007 10:51:45] <Lxy> mohsen, that command is taking its time to run
[17-Jul-2007 10:52:21] <mohsen> if it took longer than expected, maybe you need to restart your zenoss
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[17-Jul-2007 11:00:07] <Lxy> what is the proper pricedure for restarting?
[17-Jul-2007 11:00:57] <Merciless> I have a very genuine question. Why is it SNMP? When rewriting the whole of .net would be easier than understanding SNMP
(the simple bit i'm referring to )[17-Jul-2007 11:00:57] <mohsen> ./bin/zenoss restart
[17-Jul-2007 11:02:29] <Lxy> hmm.... zenoss may have not been fully initialized to begin with. Taht would explain my weird results
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[17-Jul-2007 11:10:56] <mohsen> Lxy: and everything works now?
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[17-Jul-2007 11:14:55] <Lxy> mohsen, restarting Zenoss fixed it. I have pretty graphs now
[17-Jul-2007 11:16:46] <mohsen> Lxy: Lucky you! I am still stuck
[17-Jul-2007 11:18:28] <mohsen> Lxy: besides adding the device and setting up the snmp parameters, what you ve done to get the graphs?
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[17-Jul-2007 11:20:26] <kippi> hey
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[17-Jul-2007 11:21:31] <kippi> I am using the zenoss vm player, but i can't seem to add a new user, there is no where to add the user, anyideas?
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:01] <Bulwinkle> kippi: what version?
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:49] <kippi> Version 2.0.0
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:49] <Merciless> kippi this took me a while.. but the arrow on the left hand side of the "users" menu bar thing.. if you click on the arrow you can click new user
[17-Jul-2007 11:22:54] <Merciless> its in the preferences bit
[17-Jul-2007 11:24:08] <kippi> so click on preferences at the top right?
[17-Jul-2007 11:24:51] <kippi> still don't see new user anywhere
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:14] <Merciless> http://your.ip:8080/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/manageUserFolder
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:24] <Merciless> when you click preferences you see: /ZenUsers /admin above the main information window
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:32] <Merciless> if you click on /ZenUsers it brings you to the users bit
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:45] <Merciless> Click the down arrow to the left of "User Folders"
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:53] <Merciless> then Add New User
[17-Jul-2007 11:25:54] <Merciless> vwala
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:14] <Merciless> The quick start guide on the website seems to be for the older version
i only found about zenoss earlier today though so could be wrong ^-^[17-Jul-2007 11:26:15] <kippi> there is no add user
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:32] <Merciless> you clicked the down arrow on the left of user folder?
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:36] <Bulwinkle> kippi: see the down arrow on the left top bar?
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:40] <kippi> yeah
[17-Jul-2007 11:26:44] <Merciless> whats in it
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:11] <kippi> main views, classes, browse, managemnt
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:35] <Merciless> :s
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:45] <Merciless> Your not on the users page
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:47] <kippi> ah
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:49] <kippi> I see
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:51] <kippi> lol
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:52] <kippi> !!!!
[17-Jul-2007 11:27:58] <kippi> hehe
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:02] <kippi> silly me!!
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:11] <Merciless> Click Preferences. In the new screen, click on the "/ZenUsers" part of the "/ZenUsers /admin" link at the top.
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:17] <Merciless> Then click on the down arrow and add new user
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:19] <Merciless> see it?
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:22] <kippi> yeah
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:27] <kippi> i've got it
[17-Jul-2007 11:28:39] <Merciless> fantastic =)
[17-Jul-2007 11:29:17] <Merciless> My turn for a question. Anyway of monitoring resources of a windows server without using SNMP Informant
[17-Jul-2007 11:37:19] <kippi> where is the setting to say how quicky the monitors check
[17-Jul-2007 11:37:51] <kippi> got it
[17-Jul-2007 11:41:58] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: SNMP Informant is the best way
[17-Jul-2007 11:42:59] <solarce> just label it a security patch
[17-Jul-2007 11:43:31] <Merciless> Fair enough Bulwinkle
[17-Jul-2007 11:43:41] <kippi> its seems a bit slow at saying the server is down and then backup
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:06] <Merciless> kippi.. the detection only takes place every x sections, and the web page updates every x seconds as well
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:19] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: there are other ways but, they can be painful at best
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:23] <mohsen> When I run zenperfsnmp, I get this error. Any Idea:ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error sending event: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Trac
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:25] <mohsen> eback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[17-Jul-2007 11:44:29] <Merciless> I.e MIB's i take it
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:23] <Merciless> maff: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2123&sid=6c2e1a1663263297f445516fa452dee4
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - R: R: R: r5411 zenperfsnmp error (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:23] <Merciless> :/ wrong bit
[17-Jul-2007 11:45:56] <mohsen> Merciless: did you answer me? I've read that and it did not help
[17-Jul-2007 11:46:09] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: a lot of the OIDs you need to monitor system functions aren't presented by WIndows SNMP
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[17-Jul-2007 11:48:17] <Merciless> Bulwinkle - i was under the impression things like CPU and HD resources are there already? The companys current monitor does monitor these things without SNMP Informant.
[17-Jul-2007 11:48:27] <Merciless> But I'm new to the company and the guy who set up the current monitor has left. :/
[17-Jul-2007 11:48:33] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: what product do they use?
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:04] <Merciless> Its one created by the guy who left
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:07] <Merciless> he called it DMON anyway
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:36] <Merciless> he wrote it.. works well but visually its horrible thus we're looking to upgrade really
[17-Jul-2007 11:49:46] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I suggest going through it and finding out the OIDs, then you can set up Zenoss to use them
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:00] <Merciless> kk i'll have to find him first.
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:09] <Merciless> Relating to the same thing, I did install SNMP Informant for testing
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:24] <Merciless> but the device when discovered wouldnt display things like CPU statistics or HD Size etc
[17-Jul-2007 11:50:26] <Merciless> :S
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[17-Jul-2007 11:54:12] <Merciless> any idea Bulwinkle
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[17-Jul-2007 11:59:56] <kippi> trying to add new devices but its going to the status screen and not showing anymore, added others and it was working, anyideas?
[17-Jul-2007 12:00:28] <kippi> worked it out
[17-Jul-2007 12:05:43] <Bulwinkle> kippi: you sure ask a lot of questions without trying to figure them our yourself
[17-Jul-2007 12:06:19] <Merciless> rofl
[17-Jul-2007 12:06:21] <Merciless> tis true
[17-Jul-2007 12:11:12] <Merciless> Bulwinkle still no idea on mine? =)
[17-Jul-2007 12:12:30] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I have seen it before, saw it yesterday as a matter of fact... what happens if you try to do an snmpget of one of the OID Zenoss is asking for?
[17-Jul-2007 12:13:23] <Merciless> I havent tried because im a newbie and not sure what i'd type exactly in the console
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:00] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: do you have anything on the hardware tab of the server?
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:34] <Merciless> Socket Manufacturer Model Speed Ext Speed L1 L2 Volts
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:35] <Merciless> 0 Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[17-Jul-2007 12:15:49] <Merciless> Memory 126.4MB Swap 309.9MB
[17-Jul-2007 12:17:02] <Merciless> at least it detected its intel rofl
[17-Jul-2007 12:25:58] <Merciless> Bulwinkle I have to go... if you can post an answer (i'll be idling) it would be much appreciated.
[17-Jul-2007 12:26:19] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: check your perf tab
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:00] <Merciless> how come?
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:20] <Merciless> there are no graphs
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:30] <Merciless> CPU, Free Memory and Paging are there
[17-Jul-2007 12:27:33] <Merciless> but no graphs next to them
[17-Jul-2007 12:38:55] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: need more data
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[17-Jul-2007 13:13:06] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: are you around?
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[17-Jul-2007 13:55:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: did you see my reply to your post on the forum?
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[17-Jul-2007 14:10:05] <Bulwinkle> cluther_: did you see my reply to your post on the forum?
[17-Jul-2007 14:19:05] <Lxy> mohsen, you still here?
[17-Jul-2007 14:19:20] <mohsen> Lxy: yes
[17-Jul-2007 14:20:12] <Lxy> mohsen, I was away from my desk for awhile there. I didn't really do anything, other than restart zenoss. I re-ran the command you gave me, completed successfully, and it's been graphing data ever since
[17-Jul-2007 14:20:36] <Lxy> I've now added a few switches and it appears to be graphong them as well
[17-Jul-2007 14:21:13] <Lxy> Bulwinkle, what's the best way to find OIDs for devices? Should I start with the manufacturer supplied MIBs?
[17-Jul-2007 14:21:41] <mohsen> Lxy: I see. I am still struggling to find what's wrong in my side. Which user do you run zenoss under?
[17-Jul-2007 14:21:53] <Lxy> I created a user called zenoss
[17-Jul-2007 14:24:16] <Lxy> though some part of zenoss is SUID root
[17-Jul-2007 14:25:18] <mohsen> okay I am going to run everything under root to see if it make any diff.
[17-Jul-2007 14:26:19] <Lxy> the installer told me to set everything SUID zenoss except for one binary
[17-Jul-2007 14:26:28] <Lxy> and of course make sure the environment variables are set for root
[17-Jul-2007 14:26:58] <Lxy> oh, zensocket is runnign SUID root
[17-Jul-2007 14:27:04] <Lxy> to support raw sockets
[17-Jul-2007 14:27:22] <Lxy> but zenoss itself is running as user zenoss
[17-Jul-2007 14:27:39] <mohsen> Yes, I have zensocket SUID too
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[17-Jul-2007 14:34:02] <maj> where do i change notification options so it auto sends an email when an error even is generated
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[17-Jul-2007 14:46:19] <maj> anyone?
[17-Jul-2007 14:47:15] <Lxy> sorry, not an expert on zenoss yet
[17-Jul-2007 14:48:34] <Lxy> ok, so I have a device and an associated MIB file, but the MIB file doesn't ahve any useful info in it (like the OID for CPU, etc). Is there a way I can query a device to tell me what OIDs it has available to me?
[17-Jul-2007 14:52:01] <mohsen> Lxy: snmpwak
[17-Jul-2007 14:52:04] <mohsen> Lxy: snmpwalk
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[17-Jul-2007 15:29:34] <Bulwinkle> maj: did you find your answer?
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[17-Jul-2007 15:30:53] <maj> uhh... well, kinda... i set up an alert for myslef under user preferences
[17-Jul-2007 15:31:03] <maj> but it only sends me an email when the alert is cleared
[17-Jul-2007 15:31:15] <maj> i need it to send when the error is generated
[17-Jul-2007 15:32:55] <Bulwinkle> maj: what do you have for your alert? severity, event state?
[17-Jul-2007 15:42:17] <Bulwinkle> maj: >?
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:01] <maj> umm
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:40] <maj> IP = 192.168.1.246
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:48] <maj> prod state = production
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:53] <maj> severity >= error
[17-Jul-2007 15:44:58] <maj> event state = new
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[17-Jul-2007 15:57:45] <Bulwinkle> maj: delete event state = new and change it to count = 1
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[17-Jul-2007 16:19:34] <WS_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2751
[17-Jul-2007 16:19:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Auto IP Devices (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Jul-2007 16:19:34] <WS_> if one of you could look at both of those example pictures and tell me if that's normal
[17-Jul-2007 16:20:01] <WS_> I'd much appreciate it
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[17-Jul-2007 17:32:30] <maj> is there any way to make zenoss run over ssl?
[17-Jul-2007 17:41:48] <bzed> there's a howto on zenoss.com
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[17-Jul-2007 17:42:02] <bzed> you run it trough the proxy module of apache
[17-Jul-2007 17:42:12] <bzed> and use proxy--based rewriting
[17-Jul-2007 17:42:29] <bzed> you could also google for zope ssl apache - or something liek that, all the same
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[17-Jul-2007 18:13:26] <tristanbob_> how much does zenoss enterprise cost?
[17-Jul-2007 18:17:52] <bzed> I think that's something you wanna ask by using the contact form on zenoss.com
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[17-Jul-2007 18:50:59] <rodeoclown> depends on options, support, etc as well. my employer purchased zenoss with one year support, i won't say how much but it can be costly
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[17-Jul-2007 19:05:05] <bzed> if you go to HP and buy openview with support.. it'll be costly, too.
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[18-Jul-2007 04:48:56] <kippi> has anyone got a good howto for setting up snmp agent on a client?
[18-Jul-2007 04:50:38] <Darkfang> use the default generation script?
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[18-Jul-2007 04:51:35] <Darkfang> i mean "snmpconf"
[18-Jul-2007 04:57:51] <kippi> it dosn't seem like snmp is starting
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:04] <Darkfang> what OS are you using?
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:10] <kippi> ubuntu
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:20] <Darkfang> did you look in /var/log for any error message?
[18-Jul-2007 04:58:55] <kippi> yeah, nothing
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[18-Jul-2007 05:01:11] <Darkfang> are you sure the config file is well placed?
[18-Jul-2007 05:01:42] <Darkfang> try
[18-Jul-2007 05:01:43] <kippi> its in /etc/snmp/
[18-Jul-2007 05:02:00] <Darkfang> try to force config file path
[18-Jul-2007 05:02:12] <Darkfang> i'm under mac OS X so path may differs with me
[18-Jul-2007 05:02:16] <Darkfang> for me it's /usr/share/snmp/snmpd.conf
[18-Jul-2007 05:03:19] <kippi> anyideas how you what force the config?
[18-Jul-2007 05:03:55] <Darkfang> /usr/sbin/snmpd -c path/to/file
[18-Jul-2007 05:05:14] <kippi> ok, just testing now
[18-Jul-2007 05:06:12] <iscream> could anyone help me with events/event classes?
[18-Jul-2007 05:06:31] <kippi> well I can connect to localhost on 161, but zenoss dosn't seem to connect
[18-Jul-2007 05:08:59] <Merciless> Morning iscream
how are you[18-Jul-2007 05:10:47] <Darkfang> try snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic machine_hostname 1
[18-Jul-2007 05:16:04] <Darkfang> did you get something kippi?
[18-Jul-2007 05:17:33] <Merciless> If anyone is bored and very comfortable with MIB's, Traps, and Zenoss, I wouldnt mind a pm session sometime ^-^
[18-Jul-2007 05:17:45] <Merciless> harrrd getting head around how they all interlink etc
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[18-Jul-2007 05:20:37] <kippi> hmm getting no responce
[18-Jul-2007 05:21:43] <kippi> but if I do localhost i get loads back
[18-Jul-2007 05:23:38] <kippi> there is no firewall blocking it, could this be a setting in snmp blocking it?
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[18-Jul-2007 05:25:25] <Darkfang> err
[18-Jul-2007 05:38:57] <Merciless> pfft no-one?
[18-Jul-2007 05:42:30] <iscream> hy Merciless
[18-Jul-2007 05:42:32] <kippi> is there an auto discover for zenoss
[18-Jul-2007 05:44:18] <iscream> kippi : autoÃ��Ã�³discover services?
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:22] <Merciless> lol you ok iscream?
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:33] <iscream> or devics?
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:36] <iscream> yeah im ok
[18-Jul-2007 05:45:54] <Merciless> good good
[18-Jul-2007 05:46:04] <iscream> im tired
[18-Jul-2007 05:46:08] <iscream> its very hot out there:D
[18-Jul-2007 05:46:18] <Merciless> still rubbish in the UK
[18-Jul-2007 05:48:15] <iscream> no
[18-Jul-2007 05:48:21] <iscream> tell me:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:49:33] <Merciless> tell you what?
[18-Jul-2007 05:49:48] <iscream> something news
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:02] <Merciless> wow I'm confused
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:12] <Merciless> So are you up to much? Busy? Or bored?
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:35] <iscream> busy with this work :S
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:42] <Merciless> anything hard?
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:45] <iscream> my boss hurries me
[18-Jul-2007 05:50:48] <Merciless> oh dear lol
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:03] <Merciless> Well my job is setting up Zenoss in our company. But COMPLETELY stuck
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:20] <Merciless> Will have to wait till someone on here will happily run through some things with me. The admin guide isn't proving helpful on the issue
lol[18-Jul-2007 05:51:24] <iscream> hard sometimes 'cause i didnt used to use zenoss,so...:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:36] <iscream> cluther for example:D
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:40] <Merciless> lol!
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:46] <Merciless> yes!
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:47] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:49] <iscream> i go forward
[18-Jul-2007 05:51:50] <iscream> but
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:03] <iscream> my boss wanted me to do something like ping event
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <iscream> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2771
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Events (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <iscream> i wrote it down:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:52:48] <iscream> so that is where i stucked:P
[18-Jul-2007 05:53:09] <Merciless> ah fair enough
[18-Jul-2007 05:53:35] <Merciless> i'm stuck because I can't understand how to create a MIB to monitor certain thinkgs (i know the OID but don't know how to tell it to run on a device)!
[18-Jul-2007 05:53:46] <iscream> i can send event using RESt, but than in the zenoss...too much event, not like as in the ping event, that switches own status
[18-Jul-2007 05:54:56] <iscream> what would you like to monitor? certain things=?
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:18] <Merciless> Yup like CPU
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:21] <Merciless> which I believe is:
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:40] <Merciless> 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:52] <iscream> and you give the snmpwalk
[18-Jul-2007 05:55:59] <Merciless> sorry?
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:11] <iscream> snmpwalk public myhost OID
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:20] <iscream> and it gives the oid answer
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:26] <Merciless> i'm confused
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:50] <iscream> in the linux box
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:52] <iscream> on the server
[18-Jul-2007 05:56:56] <iscream> if you give this command
[18-Jul-2007 05:57:05] <iscream> it would give you the answer, the info what you need
[18-Jul-2007 05:57:43] <iscream> for example (i donno the exact oid , just example) snmpwalk public server 1.3.6.1.2.1.26900.3.0 gives the temperature of the cPU
[18-Jul-2007 05:58:30] <Merciless> but how would I add that so that the monitor monitors the OID and alerts when it goes over a threshold
[18-Jul-2007 05:58:38] <Merciless> the example in the guide doestn exist.. just an empty space
[18-Jul-2007 05:58:57] <iscream> you added the device, right?
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:05] <Merciless> yup
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:15] <iscream> then you go to the deviceclass
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:18] <iscream> and templates
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:25] <iscream> where you can add thresholds
[18-Jul-2007 05:59:26] <iscream> ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:06] <Merciless> no lol!
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:20] <iscream> left in the zenoss
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:23] <iscream> classes
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:26] <iscream> device
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:27] <iscream> ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:00:46] <Merciless> Yes
[18-Jul-2007 06:01:00] <iscream> then the right device subclass
[18-Jul-2007 06:01:02] <iscream> i guess server
[18-Jul-2007 06:01:25] <Merciless> yes
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:05] <iscream> and now templates (from now on, it would be applied to all servers the threshold)
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:12] <iscream> device
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:16] <iscream> are you there?
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:29] <Merciless> aha
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:31] <Merciless> ive found it all ^-^
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:41] <iscream> ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:43] <Merciless> do those things directly link to SNMP Informant?
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:47] <iscream> yes
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:52] <Merciless> RIGHT
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:53] <Merciless> =)
[18-Jul-2007 06:02:59] <iscream> when you want add oid to filesystem
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:15] <iscream> then you go back and not device sublcass, you choose filesystem
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:17] <iscream> if empty space
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:17] <iscream> ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:21] <Merciless> So last problem. I have a server with SNMP Informant but it doesnt display CPU information or detialed hard drive information when i look at the device :s
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:27] <Merciless> right
[18-Jul-2007 06:03:59] <iscream> there you can add datasource with the id what you want, and the oid number what you looked out, and from now on you can write thresholds
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:04] <iscream> would be ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:14] <Merciless> yup
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:38] <iscream> good
[18-Jul-2007 06:04:57] <iscream> were you here yesterday when i said im from hungary, and sorry for my english?:D
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:15] <Merciless> I was here and it's ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:26] <iscream> can you "understand" mee?...:P
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:28] <Merciless> now how come, even with SNMP Informant, for CPU information I get this for my server:
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:28] <Merciless> Socket Manufacturer Model Speed Ext Speed L1 L2 Volts
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:28] <Merciless> 0 Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:35] <iscream> hmm
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:46] <iscream> i donno this answer, i have the same problem,
[18-Jul-2007 06:05:58] <iscream> first i had the right hard disk info, usage% and so on
[18-Jul-2007 06:06:01] <iscream> and the perf graph was ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:06:12] <iscream> but the day after till now its nothing
[18-Jul-2007 06:06:25] <iscream> so im waiting for the answer in forum or from cluther:D
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[18-Jul-2007 06:08:12] <Merciless> lol ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:09:21] <Merciless> Anyway to monitor RAM Threshold?
[18-Jul-2007 06:09:58] <iscream> at device thresholds
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memAvailReal 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memAvailSwap 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.4.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memBuffer .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:09] <iscream> memCached .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.15.0 SNMP True
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:15] <iscream> one of these
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:25] <kippi> what windows agent do people use?
[18-Jul-2007 06:10:59] <iscream> snmp-informant
[18-Jul-2007 06:11:39] <Merciless> ah ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:17:24] <kippi> so you have to run a client on the windows box?
[18-Jul-2007 06:24:32] <iscream> kippi : you have to install snmp service , and the snmp-informant on the windows box, and it will be ideally okay
[18-Jul-2007 06:30:04] <Merciless> it will display the current used ram correctly.. but doesnt know the max thus "availram" doesnt work and theres no "usedram" threshold
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:07] <iscream> Merciless : i think you are looking for this type, just instead of hard disk memory ram : http://192.168.0.126:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/rrdTemplates/FileSystem/thresholds/Free%20Space%2090%20Percent
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:07] <iscream> ofkÃ��Ã�³rsz
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:07] <iscream> with your ip
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:17] <iscream> ofcourse
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:29] <iscream> instead of 192.168...blahblah
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:34] <Merciless> Thats free hard drive space isn't it?
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:36] <Merciless> I want free RAM
[18-Jul-2007 06:41:40] <Merciless> or RAM Used
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:26] <iscream> it is if there is >=90% of the HD is used then alert or something
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:39] <Merciless> thats HD, not RAM Memory
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:50] <iscream> i know
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:54] <iscream> just its an axample
[18-Jul-2007 06:42:58] <iscream> you can do it with memory too
[18-Jul-2007 06:43:23] <iscream> yeah
[18-Jul-2007 06:43:25] <iscream> i see the problem:D
[18-Jul-2007 06:43:29] <Merciless> but it wont work for RAM because Zenoss doesnt know how much RAM the device has in total
[18-Jul-2007 06:44:32] <iscream> yes it knows, but i donno where to find it...yet
[18-Jul-2007 06:44:41] <iscream> but i searching for it
[18-Jul-2007 06:45:37] <iscream> it must know, 'cause on the device page, on the OS hardware tab, it appears, so it must have come from somewhere
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[18-Jul-2007 06:48:49] <Merciless> It tells me how much RAM its using
[18-Jul-2007 06:48:52] <Merciless> not how much RAM it has in total
[18-Jul-2007 06:49:48] <iscream> i know
[18-Jul-2007 06:49:58] <iscream> Merciless : when you go to the daemons in settings
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:05] <iscream> there are every daemon started?
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:18] <iscream> its just a question, not in connect with the RAM problem
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:35] <Merciless> I dont understand it
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:40] <iscream> go to settings
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:44] <iscream> and deamons tab
[18-Jul-2007 06:50:46] <iscream> are you ok?
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:26] <Merciless> ye im in there
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:38] <iscream> there is just green lights?
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:40] <iscream> are
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:42] <Merciless> zencommand and zenwinmodeler isn't working
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:45] <Merciless> the rest are green
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:48] <iscream> ejj
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:51] <iscream> start it
[18-Jul-2007 06:51:59] <iscream> there must be every daemon working
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:04] <Merciless> ok
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:25] <iscream> at my zenoss the zenhub isnt working
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:34] <iscream> and i start it, and it stops i donno why
[18-Jul-2007 06:52:48] <Merciless> lol weird
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:13] <iscream> when you go againt to the daemons
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:18] <iscream> its ok all ?
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:36] <Merciless> yup
[18-Jul-2007 06:54:37] <Merciless> still all on
[18-Jul-2007 06:55:56] <iscream> how can i find where is $ZENHOME ?:D
[18-Jul-2007 06:56:16] <Merciless> no idea
[18-Jul-2007 06:59:51] <Merciless> im trying to monitor a windows service. Was using the service clipbook as a test. Even though clipbook service is stopped, zenoss is saying its enabled :S
[18-Jul-2007 06:59:54] <Merciless> weird
[18-Jul-2007 07:00:53] <iscream>
[18-Jul-2007 07:01:06] <Merciless> any idea?
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:24] <iscream> hmm
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:25] <iscream> no idea
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:29] <iscream> sry, i had dinner
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:33] <Merciless> Lol no problem.
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:41] <Merciless> Have you got it to monitor windows services?
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:42] <iscream> oo
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:44] <iscream> not dinner
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:45] <iscream> lunch:D
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:47] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 07:19:57] <iscream> yes
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:04] <iscream> i set up to monitor snmp.exe
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:19] <Merciless> thats a process, not a servicce?
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:22] <Merciless> so it monitors processes ok?
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:26] <iscream> yesyes
[18-Jul-2007 07:20:44] <iscream> windows services no
[18-Jul-2007 07:21:17] <iscream> sry, im a bit thoughtless
[18-Jul-2007 07:22:18] <Merciless> no problem
[18-Jul-2007 07:30:49] <iscream> weird...i have the same with processes
[18-Jul-2007 07:30:55] <iscream> i added to monitor firefox on the cpu
[18-Jul-2007 07:30:58] <iscream> it said its up
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:03] <iscream> then i closed the program
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:08] <iscream> then still its up
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:13] <iscream> after 5minutes too
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:48] <Merciless> rofl
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:53] <iscream> ehh
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:55] <Merciless> wheres cluther when ya need him!
[18-Jul-2007 07:31:57] <iscream> but now its ok:P
[18-Jul-2007 07:32:00] <iscream> im fine:P
[18-Jul-2007 07:32:17] <iscream> but cluther can come now...its time...we need him:P
[18-Jul-2007 07:32:20] <Merciless> Can you talk me through how you added the monitoring of the process
i told it to monitor notepad, but no events occuring when its closed.[18-Jul-2007 07:33:36] <iscream> you can add the process i guess
[18-Jul-2007 07:33:40] <iscream> simply
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:06] <iscream> i havent got any event yet when the process is down
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:07] <iscream>
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:39] <iscream> i set up the zFailSeverity 4, error its o
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:39] <iscream> k
[18-Jul-2007 07:34:43] <iscream> but i havent got any error:D
[18-Jul-2007 07:37:48] <iscream> hmm...last time it appeared when i remodelled the device, i will know how much time takes it remodelling itself
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[18-Jul-2007 08:37:17] <Merciless> iscream
[18-Jul-2007 08:37:20] <Merciless> still no cluther rofl
[18-Jul-2007 08:37:25] <Merciless> im stuck till he comes
[18-Jul-2007 08:40:29] <iscream> Merciless : i will be dead, till he comes:P
[18-Jul-2007 08:41:46] <iscream> i have a little more than a hour till workshift end, so...
[18-Jul-2007 08:42:09] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 08:42:13] <Merciless> well I'm completely stuck till he comes
[18-Jul-2007 08:42:46] <Merciless> I need to ask him about MIB's and OID's... monitoring RAM and monitoring CPU.. but through MIB's (as I assume the Disk Template thing won't work on unix boxes or firewalls etc)
[18-Jul-2007 08:45:55] <iscream> ok
[18-Jul-2007 08:46:19] <iscream> i have a couple of questions for him, too, so he will not be boring:P
[18-Jul-2007 08:46:53] <Merciless> looks like he aint comin on tho!
[18-Jul-2007 08:47:23] <iscream> ehh
[18-Jul-2007 08:47:32] <iscream> then i will bother him with email(s)
[18-Jul-2007 08:47:45] <Merciless> i dont hav ehis email addy :'(
[18-Jul-2007 08:49:10] <iscream> i guess that was is his, i found it on the zenoss forum at his reply on a post
[18-Jul-2007 08:50:17] <iscream> -is
[18-Jul-2007 08:50:26] <iscream> i write every noob things down:d
[18-Jul-2007 08:51:28] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 08:53:42] <iscream> Merciless
[18-Jul-2007 08:53:51] <iscream> i think i found a solution to our problem
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:22] <Merciless> oooo
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:23] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:24] <Merciless> go on
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:46] <iscream> but i dont really think it now after i read it twicew...:D
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:48] <iscream> -w
[18-Jul-2007 08:54:49] <iscream> so
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:06] <iscream> http://rhx.redhat.com/rhx/support/article/DOC-1305;jsessionid=3218FCA554523D5AA7F944CEC55DA662
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:06] <adytum-bot> Title: RED HAT EXCHANGE: Adding processes to monitor in Zenoss. (at rhx.redhat.com)
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:07] <iscream> same as service monitoring
[18-Jul-2007 08:55:38] <iscream> read it, and i thought it remodels itself 6hours interval, but at first is it 6hour
[18-Jul-2007 08:56:09] <iscream> so as the post says it should have change its status if the service/process is up/down
[18-Jul-2007 08:56:11] <iscream> right?
[18-Jul-2007 08:57:39] <Merciless> hmm
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:23] <iscream> or how is it?
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:29] <iscream> i cant speak english:D
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:30] <Merciless> Im not sure just reading.
[18-Jul-2007 08:58:45] <iscream> you r english...you have to know it:D
[18-Jul-2007 08:59:25] <Merciless> "To perform process monitoring the device SNMP agent must have a reasonable HOST-RESOURCES mib."
[18-Jul-2007 08:59:49] <Merciless> Now Zenoss should have a reasonable host-resources mib, so that would been SNMP Informant isn't needed!
[18-Jul-2007 09:00:18] <iscream> so informant or host-resource mib?
[18-Jul-2007 09:00:53] <Merciless> as far aas i know.. the reason snmp informant is needed is so that zenoss can analyse resources like disk usage.. however a host-resources MIB can do that...
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:01] <Merciless> this is to do wtih one of my questions lol
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:18] <iscream> anyway i cant understand why changes it status only at remodelling
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:30] <Merciless> same
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:34] <Merciless> how do you do a manual remodel though
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[18-Jul-2007 09:01:45] <iscream> i choose the device
[18-Jul-2007 09:01:54] <iscream> and manage->remodel device
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[18-Jul-2007 09:04:38] <iscream> Merciless : can you do it?
[18-Jul-2007 09:06:32] <Merciless> done it
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:10] <iscream> and it should work with the service monitorng
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:17] <iscream> until you stops the service:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:22] <iscream> then again remodel
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:29] <Merciless> still thinks Clipbook is running
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:30] <Merciless> even though its not
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:33] <iscream> i think its not the real soution:P
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:38] <iscream> at the remodelling
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:47] <iscream> what was written down?
[18-Jul-2007 09:07:57] <iscream> No changes applied, or changes applied?
[18-Jul-2007 09:08:28] <Merciless> changes applied
[18-Jul-2007 09:08:56] <iscream> then it should write at the service monitoring to the service count = 0 :S
[18-Jul-2007 09:09:09] <Merciless> :/
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[18-Jul-2007 09:09:48] <jp10558> Hey, anyone getting use out of winexe in 2.0.2?
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[18-Jul-2007 09:10:40] <iscream> Merciless : i think cluther will not come today
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:56] <Merciless> looks that way
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:57] <Merciless> gutted
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:57] <Merciless> ;p
[18-Jul-2007 09:10:58] <iscream> or not until 4 o clock(now its 3.10pm in hungary)
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:04] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:09] <Merciless> 2:10pm in uk
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:11] <iscream> yeah
[18-Jul-2007 09:11:15] <iscream> gmt+1
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:00] <Merciless> yup
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[18-Jul-2007 09:12:21] <iscream> i would change with you
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:28] <Merciless>
same[18-Jul-2007 09:12:32] <iscream> here is horrible hot:P
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:33] <iscream> ok
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:34] <Merciless> Hey Bulwinkle
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[18-Jul-2007 09:12:45] <iscream> next week i will go to UK and u come to hungary:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:52] <Merciless> sure thing
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:53] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 09:12:57] <Merciless> u got a hot girl i can have too?
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:07] <iscream> u want her...:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:13] <Bulwinkle> hi Merciless
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:39] <iscream> but yeah, im lucky and i have a hot girl, and i miss her:) when i would go to UK, would take her with me:)
[18-Jul-2007 09:13:52] <iscream> but he was there about 2or3months ago
[18-Jul-2007 09:14:13] <iscream> she was in London with her mom sightseeing:)
[18-Jul-2007 09:14:18] <iscream> for a long weekend
[18-Jul-2007 09:15:15] <Merciless> lol
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[18-Jul-2007 09:16:03] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: get your problems resolved?
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:06] <iscream>
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:09] <Merciless> yes and no
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:14] <Merciless> i got a bit further..
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:15] <Merciless> BUT
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:24] <iscream> Merciless : Bulwinkle is your other hero?:P
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:32] <Merciless> The MIB HostResources. How would I use that within Zenoss to monitor servers, without the need of SNMP Informant.. (so i can monitor none windows servers)
[18-Jul-2007 09:16:58] <Merciless> plus.. when i monitor a windows service, it shows as running even when its not.. and finally i still dont get CPU information... and I dont know how to create a threshold for RAM Usage
[18-Jul-2007 09:17:00] <iscream> this question interesses me too
[18-Jul-2007 09:17:06] <Merciless> but the main one is the MIB Host-Resources
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:01] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I'm unfamiliar with MIB Host-resources
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:25] <jp10558> anyone able to run remote commands on a windows machine with 2.0.2?
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:29] <iscream> cluuutheeeeeeeeeeer where are youuu:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:39] <Merciless> Well Host-Resources is a type of MIB which defines everything like CPU usage, Disk usage etc etc
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:49] <Bulwinkle> iscream: he has been bogged down lately
[18-Jul-2007 09:18:51] <Merciless> Can be used on any server though (not just windows)
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:24] <iscream> Bulwinkle : has a lot o work, or how do you mean?
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:26] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you're talking about the standard MIB-Resources SNMP fields
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:52] <Bulwinkle> iscream: yes.... ZenOSS has become very popular and people are paying for licenses which give them priority
[18-Jul-2007 09:19:56] <Merciless> hmm well it can be used without SNMP Informant.. I know that much. We monitor servers we can't touch
[18-Jul-2007 09:21:06] <iscream> "you cant touch just see" - i wanted to give my girlfriend a t-shirt with this line:D
[18-Jul-2007 09:22:08] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: Since the mib-resources is so broad, it doesn't encompass many counters... Basically if you want to use something you see in an snmpwalk, go for it
[18-Jul-2007 09:25:22] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: an SNMP walk will display ALL of the available SNMP variables of a system. I dump it to a file and then peruse it for variables I may want to use
[18-Jul-2007 09:27:25] <Merciless> because im a newbie to all this i'm not too sure how
[18-Jul-2007 09:27:42] <Merciless> if i knew the mib variable for cpu statistics for example, i wouldnt know how to use that for all devices
[18-Jul-2007 09:28:40] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: if you can find that I can walk you through how to use it
[18-Jul-2007 09:29:26] <Merciless> If i can find what?
[18-Jul-2007 09:30:06] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: ANY SNMP OID you want to track
[18-Jul-2007 09:30:59] <Merciless> but dont you download mib's, then use an oid relating to the mib you downloaded?
[18-Jul-2007 09:31:06] <Merciless> im just trying to get my head around everything
[18-Jul-2007 09:32:29] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: if you know the OID on the remote system you don't have to install anything on the ZenOSS system. You may have to install MIBs on the remote system (which is what SNMP Informant does FAIAP)
[18-Jul-2007 09:33:36] <Merciless> We need a system whereby we can monitor these things on customer servers which we cant install anything on.
[18-Jul-2007 09:33:57] <Merciless> Is there a way to install a mib to the zenoss system instead of the host
[18-Jul-2007 09:34:04] <Merciless> thus it will use an OID which is valid for all
[18-Jul-2007 09:36:15] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: yes, but it will only help to identify OID on remote systems with more typical names.
[18-Jul-2007 09:38:00] <Merciless> wow this is difficult hehe
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[18-Jul-2007 09:38:40] <Merciless> SO.. going to basics.. I've got a fresh install of Zenoss. SNMP Informant is NOT installed on a windows server. I also have a netscreen firewall. Can you talk me through how I could monitor CPU on both?
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[18-Jul-2007 09:38:55] <Merciless> without the need for touching the netscreen or the windows server
[18-Jul-2007 09:39:29] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: nope... I don't have any experience with that... I'd post something in the forums.
[18-Jul-2007 09:39:37] <Merciless> Thanks
[18-Jul-2007 09:39:58] <Merciless> but it can be done?
[18-Jul-2007 09:42:37] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: don't know... I don't think so. Why would they use SNMP Informant in the first place?
[18-Jul-2007 09:42:58] <Merciless> Well SNMP Informant will allow graphing to be done and things such as CPU usage in detail to be displayed
[18-Jul-2007 09:43:12] <Merciless> but I do believe there is a MIB with an OID so that SNMP informant isn't needed
[18-Jul-2007 09:43:32] <Merciless> we currnetly have a system monitoring CPU on windows servers WITHOUT snmp informant, using a Host-resources MIB.. but I dont know enough about it all
[18-Jul-2007 09:46:44] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: SNMP Informant does not allow graphing.... ZenOSS does the graphing
[18-Jul-2007 09:47:16] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I suggest you do some more research because your general understanding of how all of this works is flawed
[18-Jul-2007 09:49:31] <Merciless> Tell me about it :;
[18-Jul-2007 09:49:32] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 09:49:52] <Merciless> I'm only a placement student
Started learning about all this yesterday at lunchtime so its pretty hard learning snmp, mib's, OID's and Zenoss ALL at the sasme time [18-Jul-2007 09:50:37] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I'd start with SNMP
[18-Jul-2007 09:51:05] <Merciless> =p
[18-Jul-2007 09:51:36] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: get with the guy who designed the current monitoring system and find out what OIDs he is using to monitor the windows servers... if you can get those, I can walk you through how to use them to monitor the windows systems with ZenOSS
[18-Jul-2007 09:52:37] <Merciless> aha! well indeed I do have 2 files that he sent me.. (the guy is a real hard piece of work and left the company)
[18-Jul-2007 09:53:07] <Merciless> snmpcore.pl and that is related to in Win2ksnmp.mm
[18-Jul-2007 09:54:11] <Bulwinkle> I'd love to have a look at the snmpcore.pl
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[18-Jul-2007 09:58:08] <Merciless> Do you have an email I could forward it to?
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> my $SNMP_mib2 = "1.3.6.1.2.1";
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> my $SNMP_mib2_host = "$SNMP_mib2.25";
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.tag", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.3");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.type", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.2");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:29] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.size", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.5");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:30] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTdisks.used", "$SNMP_mib2_host.2.3.1.6");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:32] <Merciless> snmpmapOID("HOSTcpu", "$SNMP_mib2_host.3.3.1.2");
[18-Jul-2007 09:58:34] <Merciless> thats a bit from it
[18-Jul-2007 09:59:36] <Bulwinkle> you can copy it to pastebin.mozilla.org
[18-Jul-2007 10:00:28] <Merciless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/149614
[18-Jul-2007 10:00:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Perl Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[18-Jul-2007 10:02:00] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: can you also paste the Win2ksnmp.mm
[18-Jul-2007 10:02:47] <Merciless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/149615
[18-Jul-2007 10:02:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Perl Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[18-Jul-2007 10:03:55] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: try snmpwalk -c *COMMUNITY* -v2c *HOST* .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.3.1
[18-Jul-2007 10:04:27] <Merciless> Those files are on my desktop.. do they need to be in a certain place for that to work?
[18-Jul-2007 10:06:37] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: no
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[18-Jul-2007 10:07:01] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you need to run that command from the ZenOSS command prompt
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[18-Jul-2007 10:08:45] <Merciless> run the command
[18-Jul-2007 10:08:54] <maj> is there any reason why some IP Services would just be removed all of the suddon from monitoring
[18-Jul-2007 10:09:11] <maj> i do see it in the history log that they're removed, but doesn't say why
[18-Jul-2007 10:10:09] <Merciless> er
[18-Jul-2007 10:10:23] <Merciless> Shudnt there be a .25. in there as well Bulwinkle due to the mib2_host bit which its referring to?
[18-Jul-2007 10:11:45] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: missed that...
[18-Jul-2007 10:11:47] <Bulwinkle> yes
[18-Jul-2007 10:12:39] <Merciless> so .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1 ?
[18-Jul-2007 10:13:00] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: yes
[18-Jul-2007 10:13:45] <Merciless> SNMPv2-SMI :: mgmt.25.1.2.3.1 = No Such Object Available on this agent at this OID
[18-Jul-2007 10:16:30] <maj> anybody?
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[18-Jul-2007 10:22:58] <Bulwinkle> maj: if they are uninstalled... they will be removed on the next modeling pass
[18-Jul-2007 10:23:47] <maj> what do you mean uninstalled?
[18-Jul-2007 10:24:06] <Bulwinkle> maj: removed from the system.....
[18-Jul-2007 10:24:11] <maj> from the server that is getting monitored?
[18-Jul-2007 10:24:59] <Bulwinkle> maj: exactly
[18-Jul-2007 10:27:22] <maj> no no, http service is still there, i just readded it ;P
[18-Jul-2007 10:28:02] <maj> although the weird thing is, i had to add http manually to IP services, since it didn't show up in the list by itself... .is that because it didn't find it?
[18-Jul-2007 10:28:31] <maj> and thats why it removed it uppon the next modeling pass?
[18-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <Bulwinkle> maj: yes, Windows or Linux?
[18-Jul-2007 10:29:46] <maj> linux (centos 4.5)
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:01] <Bulwinkle> maj: the server you are monitoring or the Zenoss server?
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:23] <maj> the server that is monitoring is linux
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:26] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: did you run a snmpwalk or a snmpget?
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:28] <maj> zenoss is vmware appliance
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:43] <Merciless> snmpwalk
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:55] <Merciless> snmpwalk -c *COMMUNITY* -v2c *HOST* .1.3.6.1.2.25.1.2.3.1
[18-Jul-2007 10:30:59] <Merciless> thats what i did
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:01] <Bulwinkle> maj: as long as the http service is running it should find it. is it running now?
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:08] <maj> yup
[18-Jul-2007 10:31:08] <Merciless> (with community and host been corrected
)[18-Jul-2007 10:31:45] <maj> it didn't before, only when i manually added it, it started monitoring it
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:00] <maj> but i think it'll get dropped off again when i reboot the appliance
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:08] <maj> in fact, lemme try
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:16] <Bulwinkle> maj: wait
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:21] <maj> k
[18-Jul-2007 10:32:33] <Bulwinkle> maj: model the device again... you shouldn't need to reboot
[18-Jul-2007 10:33:14] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: go back one level until you get a response (.1.3.6.1.2.25.1.2.3 , .1.3.6.1.2.25.1.2, and so on
[18-Jul-2007 10:33:39] <maj> Bulwinkle, nope, lost it again
[18-Jul-2007 10:34:41] <Merciless> Got a response at .1.3.6.1.2 (cant past it as it was a LOAD of text and i have no up scrolly thing
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[18-Jul-2007 10:35:42] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: put a > snmp.txt at the end
[18-Jul-2007 10:35:53] <pinger> morning folks
[18-Jul-2007 10:36:59] <Merciless> Ok don
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[18-Jul-2007 10:37:39] <pinger> how lng does it normally take for zenoss to gather the required CPU info/metrics from a windows machine with snmp-informant installed?
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:06] <pinger> s/lng/long/
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:27] <Bulwinkle> pinger: give it 15 minutes....
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:39] <Merciless> ok Bulwinkle i have snmp.txt
[18-Jul-2007 10:38:54] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: paste it to pastebin for me
[18-Jul-2007 10:39:02] <pinger> hmmm
[18-Jul-2007 10:39:52] <pinger> Bulwinkle: i've had the windows box monitored since last night, still show 4 procs of 0 MHZ speed, etc.
[18-Jul-2007 10:40:04] <pinger> <- wondering if he screwed up something
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[18-Jul-2007 10:40:37] <Merciless> How do i paste something from in the linux vm to pastebin? I dont believe i can copy and paste between vm's
[18-Jul-2007 10:40:57] <pinger> Merciless: you may need the linux tools if using vmware
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:09] * pinger throws an "installed" up there
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:12] <Merciless> no command to do it in linux/
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:39] <Bulwinkle> pinger: if they don't show up on the initial add, they wont....
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:44] <pinger> hmmm
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:52] <pinger> Bulwinkle: any suggestions to look at?
[18-Jul-2007 10:41:58] <Bulwinkle> pinger: are you getting information in the proc tab?
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:17] <pinger> i get some info in the perf tab
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:32] <pinger> and in the hardware tab I see the hard disks and the memory
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:35] <pinger> but that's it
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:48] <Bulwinkle> pinger: no CPU util?
[18-Jul-2007 10:42:50] <pinger> btw, i'm seeing this on two seperate pieces of hardware
[18-Jul-2007 10:43:01] <pinger> none
[18-Jul-2007 10:43:07] <pinger> i get free mem and paging info
[18-Jul-2007 10:44:02] <Bulwinkle> pinger: hrm
[18-Jul-2007 10:44:30] <pinger> argh...brb...this client sucks...let me relog using bitchx
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[18-Jul-2007 10:44:55] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you can look through that file and see if you see the SNMP stuff you are looking for
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[18-Jul-2007 10:45:07] <pinger> there we go
[18-Jul-2007 10:45:30] <pinger> so as I was saying, I'm getting everything else, except CPU info
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[18-Jul-2007 10:48:35] <Bulwinkle> pinger: on one of those servers do you have anything in the event tab?
[18-Jul-2007 10:48:50] <pinger> no
[18-Jul-2007 10:49:43] <pinger> let me double check the history
[18-Jul-2007 10:49:50] <pinger> anything in particular i should be looking for?
[18-Jul-2007 10:50:51] <pinger> this is the only thing I see in the history:
[18-Jul-2007 10:50:52] <pinger> Error reading value for "cpuPercentProcessorTime" on sqldb (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 is bad)
[18-Jul-2007 10:51:09] <pinger> that's from yesterday at 10:42am (lastTime)
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[18-Jul-2007 10:51:52] <Bulwinkle> pinger: thats the reason
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:10] <Bulwinkle> pinger: windows box?
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:13] <pinger> yup
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:22] <pinger> snmp-informant installed
[18-Jul-2007 10:52:26] <maj> Bulwinkle, so why do some service don't show when i model the device?
[18-Jul-2007 10:53:51] <pinger> Bulwinkle the question is, how do I fix the OIB so that any future windows machines won't have the same issue?
[18-Jul-2007 10:53:54] <Bulwinkle> pinger: herum.... thats strange
[18-Jul-2007 10:53:59] <pinger> and, of course, find the correct OIB
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[18-Jul-2007 10:54:04] <pinger> oid even
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:15] <pinger> Bulwinkle agreed
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:20] <Bulwinkle> pinger: it is working on all of my 2003 servers
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:39] <Bulwinkle> pinger: have you tried some snmpwalks
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:42] <pinger> Bulwinkle: i'm wondering if MS did something wierd with their R2 version
[18-Jul-2007 10:54:45] <pinger> yeah
[18-Jul-2007 10:55:02] <Bulwinkle> pinger: I only have R1s so I can be no help
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[18-Jul-2007 10:55:43] <pinger> it shouldn't matter though...odd
[18-Jul-2007 10:55:55] <pinger> i get some results from snmpwalks
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:07] <pinger> i finds the PerfCPU items
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:16] <pinger> s/i/it/
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:36] <Bulwinkle> pinger: try .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5
[18-Jul-2007 10:56:45] <Merciless> Bulwinkle dont worry about me till your free.. but found all the things in Host-Resources-Mib which is the beginning of each line in snmp.txt with information of HDD, CPU, process etc
[18-Jul-2007 10:57:23] <pinger> Bulwinkle: should I try an snmpwalk of the system in question and grep out that mib?
[18-Jul-2007 10:57:43] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: you can now replace the OID in the /devices/Server/Windows device template to those OIDs
[18-Jul-2007 10:58:01] <pinger> ok
[18-Jul-2007 10:58:11] <Bulwinkle> pinger: what did you get?
[18-Jul-2007 10:58:14] <Bulwinkle> anything?
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:13] <pinger> still adding it
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:22] <pinger> checking the performance template for windows devices
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:32] <pinger> cpuPercentProcessorTime 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:33] <Merciless> are all the 9600 ones relating to SNMP Informant?
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:37] <pinger> that's what is currently in there
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:41] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: yes
[18-Jul-2007 10:59:59] <Bulwinkle> pinger: did you run the snmpwalk on the OID I sent you?
[18-Jul-2007 11:00:07] <pinger> Bulwinkle: doing it now
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:11] <pinger> oo
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:14] <pinger> lots of info
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:21] <pinger> well, lots of lines
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:29] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.1.1.48 = STRING: "0"
[18-Jul-2007 11:01:37] <pinger> like that one
[18-Jul-2007 11:02:05] <Merciless> ok so got 1.3.6.1.2 as the OID for data source in device templates.. but now what?
[18-Jul-2007 11:02:42] <Bulwinkle> Merciless you have to put the OID for the full counter you are trying to pull
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:31] <Bulwinkle> pinger: how many instances of Gauge32 did you get?
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:43] <Merciless> hmm well when i snmpwalked the full number it couldnt find it.. when i did the shorter number it did appear in the result, but doesnt show what the full number is
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:46] <pinger> 32
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:49] <pinger> actually
[18-Jul-2007 11:03:56] <pinger> 40
[18-Jul-2007 11:04:19] <pinger> however, all the results are 0
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[18-Jul-2007 11:04:48] <pinger> except for:
[18-Jul-2007 11:04:48] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.9
[18-Jul-2007 11:05:03] <pinger> .1.48-51 gives me 7
[18-Jul-2007 11:05:22] <pinger> and then the super long .6.95.84.111.116.97.108 gives me 28
[18-Jul-2007 11:07:30] <Bulwinkle> pinger: try an snmpget on that long string
[18-Jul-2007 11:08:26] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.9.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 = Gauge32: 0
[18-Jul-2007 11:08:59] <pinger> same thing for my other win2k3 box, btw
[18-Jul-2007 11:09:43] <Bulwinkle> pinger: does that correspong to your CPU utilization on those boxes?
[18-Jul-2007 11:10:03] <pinger> don't think so
[18-Jul-2007 11:10:07] <pinger> let me stress it a second
[18-Jul-2007 11:12:57] <pinger> ok
[18-Jul-2007 11:13:02] <pinger> it's reporting the correct numbers
[18-Jul-2007 11:13:06] <pinger> at least for CPU util
[18-Jul-2007 11:13:51] <pinger> but i'm still not seeing any graphs...and my hardware tab isn't reporting anything
[18-Jul-2007 11:14:25] <pinger> and I know graphing is in intervals, but i see nothing for the past day
[18-Jul-2007 11:15:18] <pinger> hmmm, it might have graphed something...
[18-Jul-2007 11:15:30] <pinger> sweet...it did
[18-Jul-2007 11:15:37] <pinger> very little, but it did
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[18-Jul-2007 11:15:50] <pinger> still not reporting the proc info, but at least i know it's graphing
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[18-Jul-2007 11:21:07] <pinger> very odd
[18-Jul-2007 11:21:56] <pinger> so a random question: why does zenoss need snmp-informant?
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:14] <Merciless> so zenoss can find out the cpu information
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:21] <Merciless> using an OID thats not contained in normal SNMP
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:22] <Merciless> at a guess
[18-Jul-2007 11:22:36] <Merciless> i.e that .9600 bet wont work without SNMP informant
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[18-Jul-2007 11:22:59] <pinger> i'm just wondering if there's another OID used in standard snmp in windows that can do the same thing
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:16] <Merciless> thats what ive been looking at
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:23] <Merciless> and ive been getting close but not quite there
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:25] <pinger> i've used other snmp monitoring tools without needing to install an extra package
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:42] <Merciless> 1.3.6.1.2 is as far as i've got
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:52] <Merciless> in there is Services, HDD usage... but trying to find RAM and CPU
[18-Jul-2007 11:23:53] <pinger> i work in an environment where I have to get any added software to pass C&A
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:00] <Merciless> ye im the same pinger
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:04] <pinger>
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:06] <Merciless> we're at the same stage in our Zenoss progress
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:07] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:12] <pinger> hahaha
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:13] <pinger> indeed
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:25] <pinger> so the less software that I have to get C&A'd would be awesome
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:45] <pinger> Bulwinkle: just a note, it can't find the CPU speed info for my linux box either
[18-Jul-2007 11:24:52] <pinger> however, it correctly uidentifies the model
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[18-Jul-2007 11:27:26] <pinger> btw, is the local admin login int he zProperties ./Administrator or .\Administrator ???
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:00] <Merciless> apparently btw there are bugs in Zenios 2.0 with Windows and WMI
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:07] <Merciless> this will prob directly relate to CPU stuff
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:08] <pinger> aaahhh
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:11] <Merciless> so I'm going to download 1.1
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:33] <Merciless> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8873#8873
[18-Jul-2007 11:28:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - A few questions. Regarding MIB's and OID's (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Jul-2007 11:29:00] <pinger> fun
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[18-Jul-2007 11:30:03] <pinger> Merciless: i got windows services monitoring working
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:07] <pinger> it's "picky"
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:09] <pinger>
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:28] <Merciless> lol how you mean picky
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:35] <pinger> well
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:37] <Merciless> i tried monitoring clipviewer or clipbook or whatever its called
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:41] <Merciless> but it'd stay constantly up
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:48] <pinger> there needs to be fqdn
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:53] <Merciless> fqdn?
[18-Jul-2007 11:30:58] <pinger> fully qualified domain name
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:06] <pinger> you need to have proper dns or hosts setup
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:10] <pinger> IPs won't cut it for WMI
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:20] <Merciless> well this in a proper organisation network
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:21] <pinger> and make sure you have the username/password setup in the zProperties
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:27] <Merciless> aha
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:44] <pinger> domain/username or ./administrator if it's just a local account
[18-Jul-2007 11:31:50] <pinger> once you get that, everything is kosher
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:25] <pinger> i *think* it's /....
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:27] <Merciless> zWinPassword, zWinUser
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:29] <Merciless> for them?
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:31] <pinger> yup
[18-Jul-2007 11:32:44] <pinger> don't worry, the password will be covered after you save it
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:02] <pinger> then you add the servicename for the ID
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:03] <Merciless> ok so done that: /Devices /Server /Windows
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:11] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: I wouldn't go back to 1.1
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:14] <pinger> like MSSQLSERVER for MS SQl Server (duh)
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:20] <pinger> then about 5 minutes later you'll get everything
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:29] <pinger> Merciless: you should be good now
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:38] <pinger> no thanks on the 1.1
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:50] <pinger> i don't want to introduce a seperate windows box to get WMI info
[18-Jul-2007 11:33:54] <Bulwinkle> I came from there and don't want to go back
[18-Jul-2007 11:34:05] <Merciless> but 1.1 worked for what i want
[18-Jul-2007 11:34:07] <pinger> Bulwinkle: so is it ./Administrator or .\Administrator?
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:32] <Merciless> Still saying clipbook viewer is running rofl
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:51] <pinger> Merciless http://forums.adventnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=2418
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:51] <pinger> Merciless give it a sec
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:51] <pinger> it takes some time to get al the info
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:55] <pinger> make sure you set the service to True for monitored
[18-Jul-2007 11:35:59] <pinger> s/al/all/
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:00] <Bulwinkle> pinger: yes
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:02] <Merciless> thanks pinger
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:22] <Bulwinkle> .\Administrator
[18-Jul-2007 11:36:24] <maj> Bulwinkle, so why do some service don't show when i model the device?
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:01] <Bulwinkle> maj: good question.... do you have a firewall running on those servers?
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:22] <maj> nope, iptables is off
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:42] <maj> web server is standard apache
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:54] <pinger> Merciless: looks like that MIB didn't work
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:56] <Bulwinkle> maj: and you can access that webserver from anywhere?
[18-Jul-2007 11:37:58] <pinger> curses
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:01] <maj> ya
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:22] <Merciless> thing is.. thats the MIB the current system uses :S
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:30] <Merciless> but it wont work when I try using snmpwalk :s
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:32] <Merciless> how strange
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:33] <pinger> Merciless: lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:38:44] <pinger> i wonder if it'll work if we remove snmp-informant
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:00] <Merciless> good question
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:01] <Merciless> but prob not
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:04] <maj> both boxes are behind the same firewall, but it shouldn't matter since they're both on the same LAN
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:05] <Merciless> snmp informant is an extension
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:07] <Merciless> not a replacement
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[18-Jul-2007 11:39:22] <pinger> Merciless: true, but it's closed source, so who knows exactly what it's doing
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:26] <pinger> wait...is it closed source?
[18-Jul-2007 11:39:40] <Merciless> no dont think so?
[18-Jul-2007 11:40:34] <Bulwinkle> maj: wait a sec, did you go in and enable monitoring for the HTTP service?
[18-Jul-2007 11:40:58] <pinger> Merciless: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/005813.html
[18-Jul-2007 11:40:58] <maj> Bulwinkle, well, originally http didn't show up, so i added it
[18-Jul-2007 11:41:15] <maj> just on that device
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[18-Jul-2007 11:41:26] <Bulwinkle> maj: did you uncheck the monitored box next to IP Services?
[18-Jul-2007 11:41:35] <maj> ya
[18-Jul-2007 11:41:43] <maj> still not there
[18-Jul-2007 11:42:06] <Bulwinkle> maj: got me, you may want to post it in the Forums
[18-Jul-2007 11:42:36] <pinger> Merciless: i know cacti can monitor the performance stuff, maybe install cacti and grab the OIBs from it
[18-Jul-2007 11:43:00] <maj> cool, will do, but at least i know how to recreate the problem, by remodeling the dev
[18-Jul-2007 11:43:26] <Merciless> i dont want to install anything on the windows servers lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:12] <Merciless> i quote
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:13] <Merciless> " and the host resources MIB.
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:15] <Merciless> "
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:26] <Merciless> Which is lies because the host resources MIB isn't working lol!
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:29] <pinger> cacti = linux
[18-Jul-2007 11:44:48] <Merciless> im so confused why .25 is unavailable on it rofl
[18-Jul-2007 11:47:36] <maj> Bulwinkle, so all the IP services that show up in the list are identified by snmpwalk?
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[18-Jul-2007 11:50:25] <Merciless> hmmmmmm... rlly am confused why .25 mgmt2 can't be found when doing an snmpwalk
[18-Jul-2007 11:50:29] <Merciless> but its been used byt he current system
[18-Jul-2007 11:50:30] <Merciless> :S
[18-Jul-2007 11:50:51] <Bulwinkle> maj: not sure
[18-Jul-2007 11:51:20] <maj> ok, thx for ur help
[18-Jul-2007 11:52:30] <pinger> Merciless: what distro are you using
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <Merciless> Server 2003
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:31] <pinger> what do you have zenoss installed on?
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:33] <Merciless> but as i say, current monitoring system uses the OID with .25.
[18-Jul-2007 11:53:37] <Merciless> so it shud be there :S:S:S lol
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:00] <pinger> you have zenoss running on windows?
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:23] <Merciless> VMWare Linux Appliance
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:26] <pinger> <- getting frustrated with snmp-informant
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:29] <Merciless> rofl
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:30] <Merciless> how come
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:32] <pinger> Merciless: AAAHHH
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[18-Jul-2007 11:54:38] <pinger> because I don't want to use it
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:39] * Merciless calms down pinger
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:40] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:42] <pinger> makes C&A difficult
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:45] <Merciless> so dont use it.. there must be a way not to!
[18-Jul-2007 11:54:57] <pinger> well, that's what is frustrating
[18-Jul-2007 11:55:47] <pinger> i'm very happy with the WMI implementation
[18-Jul-2007 11:55:54] <pinger> just not the SNMP implementation
[18-Jul-2007 11:56:20] <craigp> anyone know why after creating several users none of them can log in? only 'admin' works for me right now...they are all set to Manager level
[18-Jul-2007 11:57:43] <Merciless> right
[18-Jul-2007 11:57:52] <Merciless> the IT Consultant at the company is gna have a go
[18-Jul-2007 11:58:52] <pinger> hehe
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:35] <Merciless> LOL
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:35] <pinger> ooo
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:37] <Merciless> when he snmp walks it
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:37] <pinger> lunch time
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:41] <Merciless> he gets LOADS back
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:42] <Merciless> when i do
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:43] <pinger> Merciless: ?
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:44] <Merciless> it doesnt exist
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:46] <pinger> HAHAHA
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:48] <Bulwinkle> craigp: did you set them passwords?
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:55] <Merciless> thats just fkin god pissing on me
[18-Jul-2007 11:59:59] <Merciless> scuse my language
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:01] <pinger> Merciless: what snmpwalk command are you issuing?
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:24] <Merciless> snmpwalk -c xxxxx -v2c 169.254.39.100 .1.3.6.1.2.25
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:55] <pinger> SNMPv2-SMI::mgmt.25 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
[18-Jul-2007 12:00:57] <pinger> that's what I get
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:15] <Merciless> same
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:19] <Merciless> take away the .25 at the end though
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:21] <Merciless> and u'll be surprised
[18-Jul-2007 12:01:35] <craigp> Bulwinkle: I did set passwords
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:18] <Bulwinkle> craigp: what version?
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:28] <pinger> right
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:37] <pinger> cause .1.3.6.1.2 = mgmt
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:40] <Merciless> yus
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:41] <Merciless> but in there
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:43] <Merciless> are some things
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:46] <Merciless> that are in the .25 oid
[18-Jul-2007 12:02:53] <Merciless> fkin confusing me
[18-Jul-2007 12:03:07] <craigp> Bulwinkle: Zenoss 1.1.1
[18-Jul-2007 12:04:45] <pinger> that's good info
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:04] <Bulwinkle> craigp: sorry, no experience with 1.1 .... I'd suggest upgrading to 2.0
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:14] <craigp> thanks Bulwinkle
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:16] <pinger> try .1.3.6.1.2.hrProcessorLoad.1
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:40] <pinger> well
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:46] <pinger> hrProcessorLoad.1 = cpu info
[18-Jul-2007 12:05:56] <pinger> how to get the oid from that, not sure
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:07] <pinger> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrProcessorLoad.1 = INTEGER: 0
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <Merciless> thats my point
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:30] <Merciless> should be .25
[18-Jul-2007 12:06:37] <pinger> how do you know?
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:09] <Merciless> because its part of the HOST-Resources MIB which is .25
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:20] <Merciless> Plus the current system gets it from .25
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:24] <pinger> FOUND IT
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:26] <Merciless>
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:26] <pinger> 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2.1
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:29] <pinger> WOOOO!!!!!
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:30] <Merciless> but that wont work
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:32] <Merciless> :s
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:34] <Merciless> when u walk it
[18-Jul-2007 12:07:40] <pinger> try that OIB
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:18] <Merciless> ur sexy
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:19] <Merciless> =)
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:23] <pinger> change the last number to the number for the proc
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:24] <pinger> LOL
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:27] <pinger> i have 4 procs
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:30] <Merciless> lol
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:33] <pinger> change the last to 1,2,3,4
[18-Jul-2007 12:08:36] <pinger> SWEET
[18-Jul-2007 12:09:10] <pinger> gonna remove snmp-informant and see if it works
[18-Jul-2007 12:13:36] <pinger> now we wait
[18-Jul-2007 12:17:22] <pinger> nope
[18-Jul-2007 12:17:25] <pinger> didn't work
[18-Jul-2007 12:18:18] <pinger> probably have to change the name too
[18-Jul-2007 12:18:19] <pinger> guh
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[18-Jul-2007 12:34:27] <Darkfang> Is there any way to get rid of all hardware events?
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[18-Jul-2007 12:34:59] <Darkfang> I'm bored of getting 1000 events a day when people shutdown their computers so the switch interface is not operational anymore
[18-Jul-2007 12:44:15] <tty01> when creating a graph is megabytes a valid entry for units?
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[18-Jul-2007 12:58:02] * KernelPanik sasy hi to the room
[18-Jul-2007 13:00:40] <KernelPanik> If a service goes down, can zenoss restart that service remotly, on linux and windows?? anyone
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[18-Jul-2007 13:24:35] <solarce> KernelPanik: I suspect you'd have to script such things
[18-Jul-2007 13:25:24] <KernelPanik> you mean using zenoss or how??
[18-Jul-2007 13:25:40] <solarce> I think zenoss can execute commands when events occur
[18-Jul-2007 13:31:07] <KernelPanik> oh I see, write a script that exectes the restart of that service.
[18-Jul-2007 13:31:24] <KernelPanik> and zenoss kinda kicks it off according to the event
[18-Jul-2007 13:31:38] <KernelPanik> hum...I was hoping it can do it via snmp or and agent type style
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[18-Jul-2007 13:32:18] <solarce> that's a question for someone with more experience than me, I downloaded the vm, set it up to watch my firewalls and haven't had time to touch it for a month
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[18-Jul-2007 13:45:06] <jp10558> anyone able to run remote commands on a windows machine with 2.0.2? I'm just getting a timeout with winexe
[18-Jul-2007 13:58:01] <maj> anybody know why modeler would not see http service
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[18-Jul-2007 14:52:23] <Bulwinkle> maj: did you post to forum?
[18-Jul-2007 14:55:46] <maj> yea
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[18-Jul-2007 14:56:14] <maj> Bulwinkle, i am using the snmpd.conf from zenoss appliance
[18-Jul-2007 14:56:32] <maj> on monitored machines
[18-Jul-2007 14:56:35] <maj> could that be a problem
[18-Jul-2007 14:56:36] <maj> ?
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[18-Jul-2007 14:58:11] <Bulwinkle> maj: nope, shouldn't be
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[18-Jul-2007 14:59:19] <maj> windows servers work fine tho
[18-Jul-2007 14:59:23] <maj> *shrug*
[18-Jul-2007 14:59:28] <maj> we'll see if somebody posts
[18-Jul-2007 15:06:05] <kells> I'm thinking of putting a software inventory into Zenoss for some AIX boxes, and I'm looking for a place to start adding in code.
[18-Jul-2007 15:06:28] <kells> I'm thinking that it might be in Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp, but it's still a little opaque to me.
[18-Jul-2007 15:07:01] <kells> Does anyone have any hints?
[18-Jul-2007 15:07:50] <kells> Hmmm... that wasn't clear. I'm looking for sample python code to populate Zenoss that I can use once I've collected the data.
[18-Jul-2007 15:09:13] <kells> There seems to be the basics of something in Products/ZenModel/Software*, but I'm still a little confused as to how one would use it.
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[18-Jul-2007 15:19:40] <davetoo> so where si SNMP Max failures configured?
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[18-Jul-2007 15:21:32] <davetoo> n/m
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[18-Jul-2007 15:23:39] <MoreDakka> Hallo (if anyone is alive). Anyone have a template that I can use for APC UPS that will measure the temp of the batteries and In/Out Voltage?
[18-Jul-2007 15:33:08] <bzed> MoreDakka: does your UPS have an network connection? I think our usv shares those values viw snmp
[18-Jul-2007 15:33:28] <bzed> but I didn;t have the time to setup the monitoring for it
[18-Jul-2007 15:33:59] <MoreDakka> Yeah it's a smart ups 750 w/ network card. I can't seem to figure out which OIDs are the ones that I want and I was hoping someone would hav built an RRD for this already ;-)
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[18-Jul-2007 15:38:50] <bzed> MoreDakka: I'm pretty sure that apc has the mibs to download on their homepage
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[18-Jul-2007 15:58:55] <rabbit7_> hey there i have some problem with my fresh zenoss installation.
[18-Jul-2007 15:59:00] <rabbit7_> the submenu does not show
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[18-Jul-2007 16:29:34] <MoreDakka> Can zenoss alert per port? if we only want port 1, 7, 15, and 23 of a 24 port switch monitored can I alert on each on individually?
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[18-Jul-2007 16:49:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: yes
[18-Jul-2007 16:50:45] <MoreDakka> I'm looking for how to do that. Do I have to setup an alert with x amount of rules (x being the ports that I want to monitor)?
[18-Jul-2007 16:51:05] <MoreDakka> I'm assuming it's monitored through snmp since there isn't a way that I know to ping a port ;-)
[18-Jul-2007 16:51:13] <creiht> MoreDakka: I think you set up the basic alert, and then have it print the port information on the alert
[18-Jul-2007 16:51:20] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: can you go in to the switch under devices?
[18-Jul-2007 16:52:17] <MoreDakka> yep, see ports 1-24 + vlan1 + null0
[18-Jul-2007 16:52:33] <MoreDakka> (cisco 2950)
[18-Jul-2007 16:53:03] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: are you recieving traps to the ZenOSS server from that switch?
[18-Jul-2007 16:53:46] <MoreDakka> yes, I can see when I plug and unplug devices from the switch. But the alert for that is very cryptic.
[18-Jul-2007 16:54:25] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: you can change the alerts... you should be able to change the monitor to false for every port you don't want to monitor
[18-Jul-2007 16:55:37] <MoreDakka> well my boss just menitooned that he wants all the ports monitored...sheesh make up your mind... ;-)
[18-Jul-2007 16:55:48] <MoreDakka> So traps is the way to go huh?
[18-Jul-2007 16:56:08] <MoreDakka> Which trap is the best to enable on the cisco switch?
[18-Jul-2007 16:56:10] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: Definitely... for my ethernet ports on switches I do traps....
[18-Jul-2007 16:56:54] <Bulwinkle> snmp-server enable traps linkup linkdown
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[18-Jul-2007 16:58:10] <MoreDakka> I don't have linkup or linkdown on my 2950
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> bridge Enable SNMP STP Bridge MIB traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> c2900 Enable SNMP c2900 traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> cluster Enable Cluster traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> config Enable SNMP config traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:36] <MoreDakka> copy-config Enable SNMP config-copy traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:37] <MoreDakka> entity Enable SNMP entity traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:39] <MoreDakka> envmon Enable SNMP environmental monitor traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:41] <MoreDakka> flash Enable SNMP FLASH notifications
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:43] <MoreDakka> hsrp Enable SNMP HSRP traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:45] <MoreDakka> mac-notification Enable SNMP MAC Notification traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:47] <MoreDakka> port-security Enable SNMP port security traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:49] <MoreDakka> rtr Enable SNMP Response Time Reporter traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:51] <MoreDakka> snmp Enable SNMP traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:53] <MoreDakka> stpx Enable SNMP STPX MIB traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:54] <Bulwinkle> DOOD STOP FLooding!
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:55] <MoreDakka> syslog Enable SNMP syslog traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:57] <MoreDakka> vlan-membership Enable SNMP VLAN membership traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:58:59] <MoreDakka> vlancreate Enable SNMP VLAN created traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:01] <MoreDakka> vlandelete Enable SNMP VLAN deleted traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:03] <MoreDakka> vtp Enable SNMP VTP traps
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:07] <MoreDakka> uhh...
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:11] <MoreDakka> hmm....
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:23] <Bulwinkle> its not under the host
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:26] <Bulwinkle> BYe all
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:28] <MoreDakka> don't like people yelling about flooding so I'll use that website I can never remember
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:48] <MoreDakka> Not under the host?
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:48] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: some channels will kick/ban you
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:50] <Bulwinkle> no
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:54] <MoreDakka> what do you mean?
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:57] <Bulwinkle> general snmp-server
[18-Jul-2007 16:59:57] <MoreDakka> yeah that makes sense ;-)
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[18-Jul-2007 17:02:33] <rabbit7_> is any of you using zenoss in enterprise ?
[18-Jul-2007 17:07:41] <shakeSpear> what do you mean by "in enterprise" exactly?
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[18-Jul-2007 17:24:24] <MoreDakka> .
[18-Jul-2007 17:24:32] <solarce> shakeSpear: for monitoring the warp core and the like
[18-Jul-2007 17:24:59] <solarce> shakeSpear: geordi is busy writing a plugin to send alerts to his eyeband
[18-Jul-2007 17:29:05] <shakeSpear> wow
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[18-Jul-2007 17:37:14] <rabbit7_> means in an environment with critical SLA where you pay fees for downtimes etc
[18-Jul-2007 17:41:49] <MoreDakka> is there a way to get a cisco 2950 to give more of a trap when it's alerting that a port is down or up...like a port number?
[18-Jul-2007 17:41:51] <solarce> five nines!
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[18-Jul-2007 17:58:07] <shakeSpear> ok - five nines - doesn't this need an redundant zenoss installation with automatic failover?
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[18-Jul-2007 18:04:26] <MoreDakka> Can traps clear traps? (example port generates a linkDown, and a linkUp would clear it)
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[18-Jul-2007 18:13:11] <shakeSpear> is someone using "relative Thresholds"? There exists an RRDRelativeThresh.py in zenoss 2.0.2 - but no idea how to use it
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[18-Jul-2007 19:50:32] <KernelPanik> questions: what does the thicker red line mean, when looks at the graphs under OS, thanks
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[18-Jul-2007 22:00:38] <davetoo> hmm...
[18-Jul-2007 22:00:40] <davetoo> this is no so good
[18-Jul-2007 22:01:06] <davetoo> I just upgraded a 1.1.2 system to 2.0.2
[18-Jul-2007 22:01:28] <davetoo> but I'm not getting the little pulldown menu/triangle next to the Status tab
[18-Jul-2007 22:01:39] <davetoo> like I do on my 2.0.0 development system
[18-Jul-2007 22:04:44] <davetoo> oh
[18-Jul-2007 22:05:00] <davetoo> found a zenmigrate fix on the list
[18-Jul-2007 22:05:09] <weez> i am not sure if this is possible, but I will ask away. could anyone enlighten me as to how I could create a mapping to detect if the same event fired twice in 30 seconds? I want to fire off a more urgent event to look at it
[18-Jul-2007 22:05:55] <weez> 30 seconds might be a tad high...
[18-Jul-2007 22:06:03] <weez> more like 5 minutes or something..
[18-Jul-2007 22:10:24] <weez> hmm... it looks like i might be able to do this with evt.lastTime
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[18-Jul-2007 23:17:18] <hspcd> does anyone know how to make Zenoss point to an alternate version of Python? I running CentOS 4.4 that has Python 2.3.4 from the repos. I've also installed from source a much newer version of python but in Zenoss / About / Versions it still shows the 2.3.4 version.
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[19-Jul-2007 00:24:26] <DaveToo> heh
[19-Jul-2007 00:24:43] <DaveToo> zWmiMonitorIgoner is still there
[19-Jul-2007 00:24:48] <DaveToo> I a Goner
[19-Jul-2007 00:32:34] <DaveToo> How odd ...
[19-Jul-2007 00:32:59] <DaveToo> zCollectorPlugins is completely empty at all levels after upgrading from 1.1.2 to 2.0.2
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[19-Jul-2007 00:46:45] <DaveToo> crap
[19-Jul-2007 00:46:54] <DaveToo> why can't I rediscover the routers
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[19-Jul-2007 04:48:00] <Merciless> any experts around?
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[19-Jul-2007 05:22:24] <shakeSpear> is someone using "relative Thresholds"? There exists an RRDRelativeThresh.py in zenoss 2.0.2 - but no idea how to use it
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[19-Jul-2007 05:39:02] <F350> hello
[19-Jul-2007 05:39:23] <F350> i have a problem in the event console if someone can help
[19-Jul-2007 05:39:29] <Merciless> depends what it is
[19-Jul-2007 05:39:39] <F350> i already have a topic on the forum
[19-Jul-2007 05:40:00] <F350> i'm unable to add more fields in the event console
[19-Jul-2007 05:40:12] <F350> like for example the eventClass field
[19-Jul-2007 05:40:28] <F350> and default sorting is not working
[19-Jul-2007 05:41:07] <F350> i had 2.0 and everything was ok
[19-Jul-2007 05:42:18] <F350> i thought it was the upgrade that messed up my setup so i removed the events database en the /usr/local/zenosss directory
[19-Jul-2007 05:42:31] <F350> and installed everything again (on the same server)
[19-Jul-2007 05:42:39] <F350> still the prob persists
[19-Jul-2007 05:43:09] <F350> do u have a problem addind fields in the event console ?
[19-Jul-2007 05:43:40] <Merciless> i havent tried
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:09] <F350> i only have the "device", "summary", "last time" and "count"
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:17] <F350> do u have the same ?
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:42] <Merciless> first time, event class, component
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:45] <Merciless> i have them 3 as well
[19-Jul-2007 05:44:50] <Merciless> for default result field
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:05] <F350> u have the 2.0.2 ?
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:34] <F350> in the 2.0 i had this
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:40] <Merciless> na just 2.0.0
[19-Jul-2007 05:45:51] <Merciless> what are the pro's of upgrading to 2.0.2?
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[19-Jul-2007 05:46:48] <F350> well the interface naming and some bug fixes
[19-Jul-2007 05:47:14] <F350> but now i have a bigger bug lol
[19-Jul-2007 05:50:50] <Merciless> lol what type of bug fixes? im havin a few probs with 2.0.0
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[19-Jul-2007 06:03:37] <F350> did u check the chengelog ?
[19-Jul-2007 06:03:40] <F350> changelog
[19-Jul-2007 06:03:47] <F350> it should be somewhere on the site
[19-Jul-2007 06:04:31] <F350> Zenoss is a great soft, however the community is not active
[19-Jul-2007 06:04:52] <shakeSpear> Is it possible to reference cProperties like zProperties in a command-template (like ${$device/cOracleSID}
[19-Jul-2007 06:05:04] <F350> this is my point of view of course
[19-Jul-2007 06:05:18] <Merciless> Tbh, i've found the irc channnel and forum really helpful so far
im slowly getting to a fully working system[19-Jul-2007 06:06:15] <shakeSpear> F350: I think the community is growing. to my mind you can't compare the community activity of the relatively new zenoss with e.g. the "old horses" cacti and nagios
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:23] <F350> that's beyond my knowledge shakespear
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:44] <F350> i'm not comparing of course
[19-Jul-2007 06:06:55] <shakeSpear> ok
[19-Jul-2007 06:07:14] <F350> maybe you are right, i was expecting more
[19-Jul-2007 06:07:42] <F350> i saw a thread on the forum about the community and support
[19-Jul-2007 06:07:58] <F350> it'a a poll i think
[19-Jul-2007 06:08:43] <Merciless> hmmm i undersatnd that to work out Mem utilisation you gotta do Sum of hsSWrunperfmen divided by hrMemorySize
[19-Jul-2007 06:08:45] <F350> and there was an idea about identidying developpers on the forum, i find it great
[19-Jul-2007 06:08:48] <Merciless> how would you put that into a trheshold :S:S:S
[19-Jul-2007 06:11:57] <F350> ?
[19-Jul-2007 06:15:29] <Merciless> ?
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[19-Jul-2007 07:44:57] <hspcd> does anyone know how to make Zenoss point to an alternate version of Python? I running CentOS 4.4 that has Python 2.3.4 from the repos. I've also installed from source a much newer version of python but in Zenoss / About / Versions it still shows the 2.3.4 version.
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[19-Jul-2007 08:16:07] <dfp> Hi, couple questions, hope someone can help. Is it possible (how?) to disable authentication (login)? Or can basic HTTP auth be used for authentication/automatic login?
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[19-Jul-2007 08:19:25] <jp10558> Anyone using the new winexe?
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[19-Jul-2007 08:23:07] <KA> hi all, I've a question about zenpacks
[19-Jul-2007 08:23:41] <KA> it seems that when I install a zenpack, with skins, skin's directory is installed but no skin files
[19-Jul-2007 08:24:00] <KA> at least I cannot see them in portal_skins/manage within the created folder
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[19-Jul-2007 08:26:20] <Darkfang> hi
[19-Jul-2007 08:29:21] <Darkfang> anyone in here?
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[19-Jul-2007 08:33:54] <KA> Darkfang: it seems not
[19-Jul-2007 08:35:07] <Darkfang> i got a couple of questions
[19-Jul-2007 08:36:03] <KA> Darkfang: me too
[19-Jul-2007 08:38:29] <jp10558> It looks like anyone who knows about it isn't here right now
[19-Jul-2007 08:39:21] <jp10558> I think the problem is that v 2.0.2 doesn't seem to be ready for prime time yet... I was hoping ,but I can't get it to notice a service on a test windows machine is down.
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[19-Jul-2007 09:26:44] <Darkfang> anyone working with check_log?
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[19-Jul-2007 09:28:53] <inktechsupport> hi there
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[19-Jul-2007 09:29:50] <inktechsupport> I'm trying to install Zenoss 2.0.2 from source to a Kubuntu system and getting the error "unable to create the initial zenoss object database"
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:02] <inktechsupport> I've looked around for a solution but only got vague answers, with the most specific being "zope wasn't configured to use zeo (zope.conf file wasn't being used)"
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:09] <inktechsupport> but not sure if that is my problem
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:36] <Darkfang> I had that once
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:49] <Darkfang> i recompiled it and it worked
[19-Jul-2007 09:31:54] <inktechsupport> does anyone know how I can identify what's preventing the initial zenoss object database from being created?
[19-Jul-2007 09:32:10] <inktechsupport> I tried recompiling, it just throws the same error
[19-Jul-2007 09:33:31] <inktechsupport> someone else suggested checking the zenhome variable is set. I double checked using echo $ZENHOME and it is
[19-Jul-2007 09:35:14] <inktechsupport> does anyone know what else could be causing the problem? I can provide more information if necessary
[19-Jul-2007 09:36:35] <Darkfang> did you added $ZENHOME/bin to your path?
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:33] <inktechsupport> just done an echo $PATH and it returns
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:33] <inktechsupport> /usr/local/zenoss/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:44] <inktechsupport> so yes
[19-Jul-2007 09:37:48] <inktechsupport>
[19-Jul-2007 09:38:49] <inktechsupport> I checked the database and the zenoss user and events database have been created correctly, so I'm not sure if it's an issue with the database permissions
[19-Jul-2007 09:39:56] <Darkfang> it's loading the data into zeo not into mysql
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:01] <_zack> hi all, I need to add a property to a zenoss object via a python script: I found how to read property values via .getProperty() but not how to set it, any idea?
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:04] <Darkfang> so it may not come from here
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:16] <KA> _zack: ehi zack
[19-Jul-2007 09:40:25] <_zack> KA: hi
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[19-Jul-2007 09:41:38] <inktechsupport> hmm so the problem is with zeo/zope. Darkfang do you know how I can identify the cause, is there a config file or something where I should check some settings?
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:11] <Darkfang> ry to look in /usr/local/zenoss/log
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:25] <_zack> uhm "._setProperty" seems to do the trick, but I'm kinda scared of the heading '_'
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:34] <Darkfang> ^
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:36] <Darkfang> ^^
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:44] <Darkfang> anyone using ckec_log here?
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:50] <Darkfang> check_log*
[19-Jul-2007 09:43:54] <inktechsupport> having a look in the log
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[19-Jul-2007 09:45:45] <inktechsupport> I have a few info messages and one warning "ZODB.FileStorage Ignoring index for /usr/local/zenoss/var/Data.fs"
[19-Jul-2007 09:46:20] <Darkfang> if it's a warning t shouldn't matter i think
[19-Jul-2007 09:46:46] <inktechsupport> but the INFO message after that says "ZEO.StorageServer (8448) StorageServer created RW with storages:1:RW:/usr/local/zenoss/var/Data.fs"
[19-Jul-2007 09:47:46] <inktechsupport> then it says INFO "ZEO.zrpc (8448) listening on ('', 8100)
[19-Jul-2007 09:48:02] <inktechsupport> shouldn't there be something between those quotes, like "localhost"?
[19-Jul-2007 09:48:24] <inktechsupport> or does blank infer localhost?
[19-Jul-2007 09:49:11] <Darkfang> no
[19-Jul-2007 09:49:12] <Darkfang> it's ok
[19-Jul-2007 09:49:15] <Darkfang> INFO ZEO.zrpc (25008) listening on ('', 8100)
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[19-Jul-2007 09:50:08] <inktechsupport> ok, cool
[19-Jul-2007 09:50:38] <Darkfang> did you check in zenoss install log for previous errors?
[19-Jul-2007 09:51:48] <inktechsupport> yeah, because I'd had the install fail a few times first for other reasons because I didn't have autoconf, swig or python-setuptools installed
[19-Jul-2007 09:52:20] <inktechsupport> I'll check it again for anything, but the zeo stuff seems to be done after the log is finished
[19-Jul-2007 09:52:53] <Darkfang> did you removed everything from /usr/local/zenoss after your previous failed install?
[19-Jul-2007 09:53:10] <inktechsupport> I tried a make clean
[19-Jul-2007 09:53:38] <inktechsupport> I'll try it again with a rm -rf /usr/local/zenoss then
[19-Jul-2007 09:54:26] <Darkfang> yeah
[19-Jul-2007 09:54:30] <Darkfang> could be good ^^
[19-Jul-2007 09:55:05] <DaveToo> man ... my upgrade to 2.0.2 didn't go so smoothly. Got about 8,000 alert emails all at once
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[19-Jul-2007 09:55:29] <DaveToo> It tried to monitor all my Ciscos via WMI
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[19-Jul-2007 09:58:11] <inktechsupport> I've been trying with the password for the Zenoss "admin" user being different from the zenoss mysql user, would that cause problems?
[19-Jul-2007 09:58:42] <Darkfang> errr
[19-Jul-2007 09:58:46] <Darkfang> i don't know
[19-Jul-2007 09:58:51] <Darkfang> i've used the same
[19-Jul-2007 09:59:16] <inktechsupport> if this compile doesn't work, I'll try making them the same just to see if it works
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[19-Jul-2007 10:01:38] <DaveToo> Mine aren't the same
[19-Jul-2007 10:02:37] <inktechsupport> DaveToo, did you install from source or from an rpm (or other)
[19-Jul-2007 10:02:51] <DaveToo> source tarball
[19-Jul-2007 10:03:13] <inktechsupport> ok, cool
[19-Jul-2007 10:04:22] <inktechsupport> I used to have v1 on a Fedora system, installed from an rpm, but trying to install 2.0.2 to a Kubuntu system from source now and not having much luck
[19-Jul-2007 10:04:36] <Merciless> anyone know how to create thresholds based on calculations from multiple OID's?
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[19-Jul-2007 10:09:02] <inktechsupport> nope, my compile just failed again, "Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database (this can take a few minutes) unable to create the initial Zenoss object database"
[19-Jul-2007 10:10:10] <inktechsupport> the error message is displayed immediately after the "(this can take a few minutes)", there's no pause of even a few seconds, never mind minutes ;-)
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:18] <inktechsupport> ah, just spotted this in the zenbuild.log:
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:18] <inktechsupport> ERROR 1235 (42000) at line 81: This version of MySQL doesn't yet support 'multiple triggers w
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:18] <inktechsupport> ith the same action time and event for one table'
[19-Jul-2007 10:12:52] <inktechsupport> or is that because the database already existed and it tried to create the same trigger again
[19-Jul-2007 10:14:26] <DaveToo> well the object (Zeo) database and the Mysql Events database are completely different things
[19-Jul-2007 10:16:05] <inktechsupport> ah, the next error is possibly the cause though: Traceback (most recent call last) <lots of Python files listed> with the last being "File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/ustr.py", line 18, in <module>" "AttributeError: 'wrapper_descriptor' object has no attribute 'im_func'
[19-Jul-2007 10:16:28] <inktechsupport> I'll give it a google
[19-Jul-2007 10:21:37] <inktechsupport> I can post the full traceback here if anyone has an idea what it might be
[19-Jul-2007 10:25:20] <inktechsupport> ah, just found one post that says "Zope 2.9 requires Python 2.4, and specifically does not want Python 2.5."
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[19-Jul-2007 10:26:04] <DaveToo> hmm
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:05] <Darkfang> inktech: for the trigger it's because there was already the former one from the previous install
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:09] <Merciless> morning Bulwinkle
how are you[19-Jul-2007 10:26:25] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: 'morning. doing alright, yourself?
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:27] <inktechsupport> is Zenoss 2.0.2 using Zope 2.9?
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:28] <DaveToo> I thought zenoss used it's own python
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:36] <maj> Bulwinkle, no luck on forums
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:43] <maj> with yesterday's problem ;(
[19-Jul-2007 10:26:50] <Bulwinkle> maj: don't know what to tell you
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:13] <Darkfang> zenoss use default system python but copy it in /usr/local/zenoss to keep working if there is any update
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:25] <DaveToo> ah
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:30] <maj> is there a sample of all open snmpd.conf somewhere?
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:39] <maj> that reports everything
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:42] <Merciless> Bulwinkle : I'm not bad thanks
A little tired, but I guess that's what computer jobs do to ya [19-Jul-2007 10:27:47] <inktechsupport> I'll try downgrading Python then
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:50] <DaveToo> right here: "rocommunity foobar"
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:52] <inktechsupport> that's gonna be fun
[19-Jul-2007 10:27:56] <inktechsupport>
[19-Jul-2007 10:28:23] <DaveToo> maj if it's net-snmp, replace your entire snmpd.conf with that one line
[19-Jul-2007 10:28:33] <DaveToo> unless it's on a public interface,
[19-Jul-2007 10:28:40] <DaveToo> then you may still want access controls
[19-Jul-2007 10:29:00] <maj> dave, what one line?
[19-Jul-2007 10:29:08] <DaveToo> [07:27] <DaveToo> right here: "rocommunity foobar"
[19-Jul-2007 10:29:53] <maj> uhhhh
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:02] <maj> so i'll just have one line in there?
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <inktechsupport> do I have to downgrade all of python, or just the python-dev package that I installed as said in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <maj> rocommunity public
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <maj> ?
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <DaveToo> yes
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:13] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:18] <maj> interesting
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:21] <maj> lemme try
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:37] <DaveToo> "rocommunity" is an alias/macro for a bunch of SNMPv1 stuff
[19-Jul-2007 10:30:46] <maj> oh, ic
[19-Jul-2007 10:32:13] <maj> ok, lets try to remodel nwo
[19-Jul-2007 10:33:09] <baffle> Is there any team working on an agent for ZenOss?
[19-Jul-2007 10:34:07] <Bulwinkle> baffle: what kind of agent?
[19-Jul-2007 10:34:10] <DaveToo> Agent to do what?
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:19] <maj> nope, works, but just as before
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:39] <maj> hrm, i guess i could try setting up a bsd or something, maybe its apache
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:44] <DaveToo> what's the target system?
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:47] <maj> that craps out
[19-Jul-2007 10:35:51] <baffle> Bulwinkle: A local agent to avoid having to use SNMP for everything. An agent can for example poll statistics locally at a fast rate, and report back to the server at set intervals.
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:04] <DaveToo> maj what system is that snmpd on
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:19] <maj> centos43, rhel5
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:37] <baffle> Bulwinkle: I know that you can do a lot of stuff via SNMP and small scripts, but a good local agent will be better in some cases.
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:42] <maj> and rhel4
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:43] <Bulwinkle> baffle: not that I am aware of.... a lot of people are opposed to installing agents on everything
[19-Jul-2007 10:36:53] <maj> DaveToo, here is my problem
[19-Jul-2007 10:37:33] <maj> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2781
[19-Jul-2007 10:37:33] <Bulwinkle> baffle: plus a lot of OSs don't allow the installation of AGENTS or don't warranty their systems with them installed... kind of a dumb way to do things IMHO
[19-Jul-2007 10:37:33] <baffle> Bulwinkle: It would be an extra, not mandatory. ZenOss is primarly an event destination/snmp poller.
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:01] <Bulwinkle> baffle: the best way to do system monitoring is through ieee standards
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:14] <DaveToo> Solaris SNMP is teh suck, though
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:28] <DaveToo> and SNMP is IETF, no?
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:38] <jp10558> Weird, I'm getting SNMP down on one of my test machines
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:41] <jp10558> It's windows
[19-Jul-2007 10:38:54] <jp10558> XPSP2, and the SNMP service is running from a local check...
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:01] <DaveToo> maj I don't really know how the ipServices stuff works yet, but it's not via snmp
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:09] <DaveToo> not related as far as I know
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:19] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:19] <DaveToo> it's port scans
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:27] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: make sure you can do a snmpwalk on it from your ZenOSS system
[19-Jul-2007 10:39:28] <DaveToo> which zenoss are you using?
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[19-Jul-2007 10:42:52] <jp10558> sorry, 2.0.2
[19-Jul-2007 10:43:57] <kells> bullwinkle: I think that you're forgetting a few things with the statement "the best way...."
[19-Jul-2007 10:43:57] <kells> a) there's always a lot of different interpretations of any standard
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:31] <MoreDakka> Bulwinkle, did you get the job?
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:36] <kells> b) SNMP doesn't work well for some things. For instance, monitoring processes via SNMP is a bit of a bad way to do things because you need to grab almost the entire process table EVERY polling cycle.
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:42] <maj> i donno if its the apache install or what
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:44] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:45] <kells> c) there are always exceptions.
[19-Jul-2007 10:44:59] <maj> maybe these enterprise linuxes lock apache down pretty hard
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:05] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: nope
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:08] <MoreDakka> Booooooo
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:09] <maj>
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:19] <MoreDakka> that sucks
[19-Jul-2007 10:45:30] <kells> (for any given definitionof "always", "exceptions" and "best"
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[19-Jul-2007 10:46:10] <DaveToo> I'm stoked that I just learned how to monitor BIND stats via SNMP
[19-Jul-2007 10:46:25] <DaveToo> found a script that uses net-snmp "exec" function
[19-Jul-2007 10:46:27] <kells> As a total aside, it appears that zenoss 2.0.3 is available from sourceforge.net. My download's done!
[19-Jul-2007 10:48:47] <MoreDakka> DaveTooo: Do you have a linky?
[19-Jul-2007 10:48:56] <MoreDakka> I'm also interested in that.
[19-Jul-2007 10:49:00] <inktechsupport> oo! I might try to see if that will install :-D
[19-Jul-2007 10:50:43] <inktechsupport> link here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=163126
[19-Jul-2007 10:50:43] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Files (at sourceforge.net)
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[19-Jul-2007 10:52:08] <jrohw> mornin' all
[19-Jul-2007 10:53:05] <Darkfang> any one monitoring logs with zenoss?
[19-Jul-2007 10:54:36] <jrohw> I'm just starting in on zenoss, but one thing that bugs me is that I can't figure out how to change the poll interval for the performance stats.. or the http monitor zenpack
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:17] <inktechsupport> for what it's worth, installing Python 2.4 (alongside Python 2.5) has fixed my issue with the error "unable to create the initial zenoss object database"
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:28] <jrohw> under monitors - perf .. I've changed all the intervals to 60s except for the config one.. but the graphs are still on 5 minute intervals
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:30] <jrohw> any ideas?
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:31] <inktechsupport> but now going to scrap the install and download 2.0.3 :'(
[19-Jul-2007 10:55:57] <inktechsupport> thanks for your help Darkfang
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <DaveToo> MoreDakka: http://forums.cacti.net/post-10211.html&highlight=
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <adytum-bot> Title: BIND 8/9 based DNS monitoring (at forums.cacti.net)
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <Darkfang> you're welcome
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <DaveToo> I modified the script there slightly
[19-Jul-2007 10:56:15] <Darkfang> i spent 3 days trying to install it properly
[19-Jul-2007 10:57:07] <MoreDakka> DaveToo: Thanks, I'll take a look into that and see if I can get it working ;-)
[19-Jul-2007 10:59:03] <jp10558> what's the upgrade plan to go from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3?
[19-Jul-2007 10:59:07] <jp10558> any changelogs?
[19-Jul-2007 10:59:25] <jp10558> so far, 2.0.2 isn't seeing win services going down either in my testing
[19-Jul-2007 11:02:02] <DaveToo> this "not in topology" stuff is bugging me
[19-Jul-2007 11:02:20] <DaveToo> How the hell do I display/verify/fix the topology
[19-Jul-2007 11:02:31] <DaveToo> not having much luck trying to rediscover routers
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:07] <inktechsupport> jp, I'm downloading it now, but have a slow connection, I'll have a look at the changelog when it's done, but I'm sure someone with a faster connection could let you know ;-)
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:11] <maj> DaveToo, are you sure IpService doesn't use snmp
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:19] <maj> i am seeing this during modeling
[19-Jul-2007 11:03:31] <maj> 2007-07-19 02:26:39 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap for device pluto.oasis7.com
[19-Jul-2007 11:04:00] <DaveToo> I'd have to go look at that plugin code
[19-Jul-2007 11:04:14] <DaveToo> I guess I'm not sure
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[19-Jul-2007 11:06:36] <kells> Hmmmm..... It appears that 2.0.3 really wants SNMP enabled. zendisc run --net=192.168.10.0 returns in less than 2.5 seconds and finds 0 hosts.
The vmware image has connectivity, and I can ping from inside of it, so it doesn't appear to be a network issue here. Oh well, I'll go check it out...[19-Jul-2007 11:07:01] <shakeSpear> jrohw: there is a very good "how to" in the forum: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1608
[19-Jul-2007 11:07:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - [Fwd: Re: Is there an ability to change the Snmp Cycle Inte (at community.zenoss.com)
[19-Jul-2007 11:09:25] <jp10558> Is it easy to upgrade from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3?
[19-Jul-2007 11:12:24] <jp10558> mmm, how does one do snmpwalk?
[19-Jul-2007 11:12:35] <jp10558> I've su - zenoss
[19-Jul-2007 11:12:47] <jp10558> and snmpwalk gives a bash unknown program error
[19-Jul-2007 11:14:51] <kells> jpl0558: It appears that snmpwalk either isn't in your path or isn't installed on your system
[19-Jul-2007 11:15:25] <kells> to see if it's on your system:
[19-Jul-2007 11:15:35] <kells> find / -name snmpwalk 2>/dev/null
[19-Jul-2007 11:16:11] <kells> If it's not there, or just isn't accessible to you, you'll need to add the snmpwalk program to your system.
[19-Jul-2007 11:16:39] <kells> Typically that will be in a package that bundles it with other utilities such as snmpget
[19-Jul-2007 11:17:05] <jp10558> ahh, so I'd look for snmpwalk with yum, for EL4?
[19-Jul-2007 11:17:31] <kells> errr.... maybe try net-snmp
[19-Jul-2007 11:17:56] <jp10558> also, in Zenoss 2.0.2, I'm still getting errors for an entry I deleted . .. I've cleared cache and heartbeats
[19-Jul-2007 11:18:05] <kells> I'm not familiar with EL4 + yum, so I'm not too much use to you there, sorry.
[19-Jul-2007 11:18:38] <Merciless> anyone know how to create thresholds based on calculations from multiple OID's?
[19-Jul-2007 11:19:09] <jp10558> I think I had to install net-snmp as a pre req for Zenoss...
[19-Jul-2007 11:19:38] <jp10558> I'll wait for the search to complete
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[19-Jul-2007 11:21:39] <kells> jpl0558: maybe try net-snmp-utils
[19-Jul-2007 11:25:02] <jp10558> That was it - THanks!
[19-Jul-2007 11:27:21] <jp10558> mmm, snmpwalk is timing out - weird. the other zenoss machie was working fine, and XP doesn't restrict access so far as I know like 2k3 does
[19-Jul-2007 11:28:13] <inktechsupport> check the Windows (or other) Firewall is letting snmp through
[19-Jul-2007 11:28:50] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: does restrict, configure SNMP in services
[19-Jul-2007 11:30:02] <maj> hrm, i think it is apache on EL
[19-Jul-2007 11:30:11] <maj> works fine on fedora7
[19-Jul-2007 11:33:56] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: find it?
[19-Jul-2007 11:34:39] <jp10558> no firewall
[19-Jul-2007 11:34:54] <jp10558> and set to allow any machine to snmp public community as read only
[19-Jul-2007 11:35:55] <jp10558> I'm doing this command:
[19-Jul-2007 11:36:01] <jp10558> snmpwalk {machinename}
[19-Jul-2007 11:36:07] <jp10558> should I put other arguments there
[19-Jul-2007 11:36:28] <DaveToo> -v1 -c community ?
[19-Jul-2007 11:37:02] <jp10558> DaveToo: that worked, I got a bunch of stuff with snmpwalk then
[19-Jul-2007 11:37:10] <DaveToo> net-snmp defaults to v2 now, I think
[19-Jul-2007 11:38:14] <jp10558> what's a pita is Zenoss seems to model SNMP
[19-Jul-2007 11:38:25] <jp10558> when I force it to model the device (or I don't get any errors anyway)
[19-Jul-2007 11:38:36] <jp10558> but it still have an event of SNMP down on the machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:41:19] <maj> why does zenwin keeps checking hearbeats of the linux machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:41:25] <maj> its in the /servers/linux class
[19-Jul-2007 11:42:01] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: did you restart the snmp service?
[19-Jul-2007 11:42:02] <DaveToo> does /servers/linux have ignoreWMI or whatever set?
[19-Jul-2007 11:42:57] <jp10558> mmm, a second restart seems to have cleared it... weird
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:00] <jp10558> of the service
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:04] <jp10558> ok
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:07] <Merciless> any idea on my point Bulwinkle?
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:25] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: that is coming in the future
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:32] <Merciless> you know how soon?
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:42] <jp10558> now to my other issue - I had originally set up with monitoring the local linux server (Zenoss server) using FQDN
[19-Jul-2007 11:43:59] <jp10558> that had weird IP confilict errors showing up in Zenoss, so I deleted that machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:06] <jp10558> and remodeled it as localhost.localdomain
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:10] <jp10558> which is working great/fine
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:20] <DaveToo> your snmpd.conf is not configured right, then
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:24] <jp10558> but I'm still getting events on the FQDN as if it was a seperate machine
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:33] <jp10558> and I can't kill it
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:48] <maj> umm, lemme check
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:50] <jp10558> I'd like to get rid of the events, I've tried clearing heartbeats
[19-Jul-2007 11:44:58] <jp10558> and clearing the event cache with no effect
[19-Jul-2007 11:45:40] <maj> DaveToo, zWmiMonitorIgnore = True
[19-Jul-2007 11:45:56] <maj> but see, it only does it on one machine, not all of nix servers
[19-Jul-2007 11:46:17] <maj> and i don't see where i can change zProperties on per machine basis
[19-Jul-2007 11:51:24] <jp10558> maj: you should be albe to do so from the dropdown menu
[19-Jul-2007 11:51:51] <jp10558> load up the device, click on the dropdown menu, more - > zProperties unless I'm mistaken
[19-Jul-2007 11:54:35] <Bulwinkle> BBL
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[19-Jul-2007 11:55:02] <maj> hrm, zWmiMonitorIgnore = true as well
[19-Jul-2007 11:55:31] <DaveToo> how do I force a remodel/rediscovery of all the routers
To fix the topology model[19-Jul-2007 11:58:52] <kells> davetoo: I might have totally misunderstood your question, but shouldn't just running zendisc run, with no arguments, do the trick? Am I out to lunch?
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[19-Jul-2007 12:00:04] <DaveToo> zendisc --routers
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[19-Jul-2007 12:00:29] <DaveToo> That's all I want to do; I don't use zendisc otherwise.
[19-Jul-2007 12:00:32] <maj> hrm, maybe its my httpd.conf that craps everything out
[19-Jul-2007 12:00:33] <DaveToo> I have my own discovery tools.
[19-Jul-2007 12:00:51] <kells> I'm hoping that I can get someone else to sanity check something for me. It appears that what's happening is that Products/ZenModel/Device.py is being excecuted but that the exception isn't being caught in the right place.
[19-Jul-2007 12:01:27] <DaveToo> zendisc gives me too many devices in /Discovered, with too many snmp errors.
[19-Jul-2007 12:01:33] <DaveToo> kells: what exception?
[19-Jul-2007 12:01:55] <DaveToo>
[19-Jul-2007 12:02:18] <jrohw> is there a way to hide device organizers.. I have no printers that I care to monitor today.. but one day I might....
[19-Jul-2007 12:02:46] <DaveToo> kells Device.py isn't "executed", per-se.
[19-Jul-2007 12:03:03] <kells> davetoo: Sorry, just can't get the line numbers in vim.
The exception is NoSnmp[19-Jul-2007 12:03:03] <DaveToo> Instances of that class are created, and methods called.
[19-Jul-2007 12:03:37] <kells> There's a findCommunity try/except block with the except NoSnmp:, but it doesn't appear to be caught.
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:36] <DaveToo> What are you doing when it gets thrown?
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:49] <kells> davetoo: zendisc run
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:54] <DaveToo> During a discovery?
[19-Jul-2007 12:04:54] <DaveToo> oh
[19-Jul-2007 12:05:12] <DaveToo> I haven't run zendisc for months
[19-Jul-2007 12:05:19] <DaveToo> don't use it much
[19-Jul-2007 12:05:50] <DaveToo> I use a homebrew perl scanning tool
[19-Jul-2007 12:06:08] <kells> As it happens, the first device in my ip range is a device that doesn't support snmp
I suspect that zendisc.py finds it, attempts discovery, the exception isn't caught in the right place, and then gives up.[19-Jul-2007 12:06:10] <DaveToo> and pipe the results into a python tool I hacked up to add the devices
[19-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <kells> davetoo: That sounds pretty interesting.
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:18] <DaveToo> The perl tool checks for a bunch of different things, like whether snmp is running, whether I can get a shell login, etc,
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:31] <DaveToo> and writes out a line with a bunch of different fields, which the python tool parses
[19-Jul-2007 12:07:42] <kells> davetoo: I've been wondering why they just don't put a wrapper around nmap and then let discovery happen that way. The only explanation that I can think of is that it would be a binary that they would need to distribute.
Oh, the license might not allow it either, come to think of it. [19-Jul-2007 12:07:55] <DaveToo> and adds to the right places
[19-Jul-2007 12:08:04] <DaveToo> I start with an nmap ping scan
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[19-Jul-2007 12:09:06] <hspcd> Hi all
[19-Jul-2007 12:09:25] <DaveToo> I do stuff like: loader.loadDevice(deviceName=devip, devicePath=devpath, discoverProto='snmp', zSnmpCommunity=v1commun)
[19-Jul-2007 12:09:54] <DaveToo> zendmd is a good place to start
[19-Jul-2007 12:10:36] <hspcd> Anyone know how to make Zenoss use another version of Python? I have CentOS4.5 which comes with Python 2.3.4. I'm having trouble with WMI and the recommended work around references using Python 2.4.3. I've installed a newer version of Python from source but Zenoss still looks at the original version installed with CentOS.
[19-Jul-2007 12:11:18] <DaveToo> We were just talking about that, sorta ... apparently the zenoss install copies what it finds on the system
[19-Jul-2007 12:11:29] <DaveToo> so .. you might have to reinstall
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[19-Jul-2007 12:11:58] <Darkfang> any one using event corelation?
[19-Jul-2007 12:12:18] <junix|work> where can i get the config file for my windows clients?
[19-Jul-2007 12:12:42] <hspcd> bugga!
[19-Jul-2007 12:13:04] <hspcd> how big of a deal is it to migrate a Zenoss 2.0.2 installation to a new server?
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[19-Jul-2007 12:14:28] <kells> davetoo: Hmmm.... If I may ask, what was your main motivation for writing your own version of zendisc? Was it speed, or was there something that it didn't seem to do well?
[19-Jul-2007 12:17:13] <DaveToo> I'm using zenoss in a very unconventional way
[19-Jul-2007 12:17:20] <DaveToo> basically we're looking for systems that people aren't using
[19-Jul-2007 12:17:28] <DaveToo> that are just sucking up power/cooling/rackspace
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:03] <DaveToo> We have a lot of different system types, all in various chaotic levels of configuration
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:11] <DaveToo> so I have a lot of different RRDTemplates
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[19-Jul-2007 12:18:20] <DaveToo> and this tool figures out where the system should go
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:38] <DaveToo> We have a server at each of five different sites,
[19-Jul-2007 12:18:49] <DaveToo> and the largest one is watching about 4,000 systems
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[19-Jul-2007 12:19:20] <DaveToo> so I needed to automate placing the systems in the correct place in the /Devices tree
[19-Jul-2007 12:19:30] <DaveToo> I'm not done yet;
[19-Jul-2007 12:19:54] <DaveToo> I have to run multiple monitor instances (snmp, command, etc) on the server or I get data dropouts
[19-Jul-2007 12:20:03] <kells> davetoo: That sounds pretty impressive
[19-Jul-2007 12:20:16] <DaveToo> That's the trick where you have to make new copies like zenperfsnmp_01.py, etc
[19-Jul-2007 12:20:53] <DaveToo> kells it keeps a 4-way dual-core 3ghz Xeon with 10GB of Ram quite busy
[19-Jul-2007 12:21:21] <kells> Egads!
[19-Jul-2007 12:21:50] <DaveToo> About 26,000 RRD files
[19-Jul-2007 12:22:38] <kells> In your experience, what is the biggest bottleneck in the performance of zenoss?
[19-Jul-2007 12:25:34] <DaveToo> rrd file access, maybe
[19-Jul-2007 12:25:44] <DaveToo> it seems the trick is to have enough RAM to keep them all in cache
[19-Jul-2007 12:25:53] <DaveToo> After that, SNMP errors
[19-Jul-2007 12:26:05] <DaveToo> too many snmp errors and the cycle times out and you get dropouts
[19-Jul-2007 12:29:19] <jp10558> mm
[19-Jul-2007 12:29:31] <jp10558> just upgraded to 2.0.3, smooth upgrade from 2.0.2 anyway
[19-Jul-2007 12:29:46] <jp10558> but it still doesn't see that a windows service is down on my test machine
[19-Jul-2007 12:32:00] <jp10558> no wait, it's not giving me a yellow dot ?
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:22] <DaveToo> hah
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:35] <DaveToo> so I spammed myself and two other people with 3500 alerts yesterday
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:43] <DaveToo> because 2.0.2 came up running WMI
[19-Jul-2007 12:36:53] <DaveToo> and tried to WMI a bunch of ciscos and unix boxes
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[19-Jul-2007 12:40:15] <kells> Hmmm.... I was hoping that zenoss would handle alert storms a little better. It's one thing that drives me nuts about nagios.
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[19-Jul-2007 12:42:22] <DaveToo> kells
[19-Jul-2007 12:42:36] <DaveToo> I think the network topology stuff is supposed to help that
[19-Jul-2007 12:42:51] <DaveToo> but it doesn't seem fully supported yet
[19-Jul-2007 12:43:16] <DaveToo> I have to fix it
[19-Jul-2007 12:43:31] <DaveToo> because my dumbass boss wants alerts to go directly into our trouble ticket system
[19-Jul-2007 12:43:40] <DaveToo> I"m goign to make a rule to auto-assign them all to him
[19-Jul-2007 12:44:30] <kells> davetoo: Ick! Direct to the trouble ticketing system? Now there's a good plan!
[19-Jul-2007 12:44:44] <DaveToo> It'll increase our metrics!
[19-Jul-2007 12:44:51] <kells> lol!!!!!
[19-Jul-2007 12:45:25] <kells> That's hilarious!
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[19-Jul-2007 12:47:56] <kells> Topology will help for some of those things, and event correlation will help for weeding out other things, but there should always be, IMO, a throttle on the generation of alerts.
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[19-Jul-2007 12:48:24] <kells> It's too easy to make a small mistake with annoying consequences.
[19-Jul-2007 12:56:45] <maj> hrm
[19-Jul-2007 12:56:53] <maj> somebody posted a solution
[19-Jul-2007 12:58:50] <DaveToo> to what?
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[19-Jul-2007 13:58:40] <jp10558> So, it seems to take a while monitoring a Windows service before Zenoss 2.0.3 sees it going up and down?
[19-Jul-2007 13:59:04] <jp10558> is it not modeling windows services unless 12 hrs passes like ZenWin did in 1.1.1?
[19-Jul-2007 14:01:11] <maj> a solution to my problem
[19-Jul-2007 14:01:18] <maj> worked
[19-Jul-2007 14:09:44] <jp10558> ok, looks like it only sees stuff every 5 minutes in WMI... makes sense I guess
[19-Jul-2007 14:16:04] <maj> is there any way to run vmware player as a service and make it start the appliance automatically
[19-Jul-2007 14:16:13] <maj> on boot
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[19-Jul-2007 14:16:39] <jrohw> maj: sounds more like a vmware server type of situation
[19-Jul-2007 14:16:57] <jrohw> i would guess the image should work there as well
[19-Jul-2007 14:17:30] <maj> heh ya
[19-Jul-2007 14:17:50] <maj> but it also costs
[19-Jul-2007 14:18:02] <maj> about 6k
[19-Jul-2007 14:18:04] <maj> got esx
[19-Jul-2007 14:19:36] <maj> actually hold on, there is a free server isnt there
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[19-Jul-2007 14:43:13] <jp10558> There is a free server
[19-Jul-2007 14:43:18] <jp10558> which will be much more like what you want
[19-Jul-2007 14:49:22] <jrohw> I'm trying to get the REST example from the howto working
[19-Jul-2007 14:49:28] <jrohw> but every time I get the login page
[19-Jul-2007 14:49:57] <jrohw> am I missing something simple? I set up a new user to import the events.. and I think i'm passing those credentials
[19-Jul-2007 15:00:31] <markw_> getting an error on mib import.
[19-Jul-2007 15:00:38] <markw_> /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-COMMON-MIB:33: revision for last update is missing
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[19-Jul-2007 16:26:05] <kells> davetoo: Hey, I've done a little research into nmap, and I think that they don't integrate with it directly due to licensing. The license is explicit about not running nmap and parsing the output.
[19-Jul-2007 16:26:06] <kells> OTOH, I'm thinking that if it gets dumped into XML, then it's totallly fair game.
[19-Jul-2007 16:29:26] <kells> Would you have objections to sharing some of the code that you've developed, or should I just put something together and submit it to zenoss? (It seems a little painful, but....)
[19-Jul-2007 16:40:12] <markw_> is there anyway to tell zenoss to ignore loopback mounted iso images? it wants to send out threshold warnings.
[19-Jul-2007 16:42:19] <KernelPanik> questions: what does the thicker red line mean, when looks at the graphs under OS, thanks
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:29] <davetoo> really
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:30] <davetoo> I'
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:36] <davetoo> ll have to look at the licencse.
[19-Jul-2007 16:43:45] <davetoo> I use -G (greppable) output mode
[19-Jul-2007 16:44:22] <davetoo> I don't use any discovery stuff from nmap. I tried that at first, but it didn't tell me what I needed to know.
[19-Jul-2007 16:44:48] <solarce> see, I was thinking perl glue to go right from nmap xml to zenoss xml
[19-Jul-2007 16:44:54] <solarce> there is a nmap xml perl module
[19-Jul-2007 16:45:14] <davetoo> I just use the list of IPs, then my perl stuff does other tests
[19-Jul-2007 16:45:36] <davetoo> e.g. it does use nmap just to see if snmpd might be listening, but I could probably also use hping for that
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:02] <davetoo> but then it runs a few different snmpgets and snmpwalks so I can decide where in the Devices tree the devices need to go,
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:14] <davetoo> based on vendor/OS and how snmpd is or is not configured.
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:30] <davetoo> basically I'm discovering ten years of chaotic lab-user-configured junk
[19-Jul-2007 16:46:44] <davetoo> very poorly managed
[19-Jul-2007 16:47:08] <davetoo> There's a stub of a "smart" discovery class in the code, or at least there was,
[19-Jul-2007 16:47:13] <davetoo> not sure if it';s still there.
[19-Jul-2007 16:47:43] <davetoo> I'd thought about extending that but I won't have time for that for weeks, if not months.
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[19-Jul-2007 17:16:19] <markw_> trying to import F5-BIGIP mibs and smidump originally complained about "REVISION" missing
[19-Jul-2007 17:16:34] <markw_> so I faked the REVISION and smidump no longer gives errors.
[19-Jul-2007 17:16:50] <markw_> but zenmib run still fails to import.
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[19-Jul-2007 18:17:55] <eurowerke> ahh
[19-Jul-2007 18:17:56] <eurowerke> finally
[19-Jul-2007 18:18:07] <eurowerke> my client b0rked
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[19-Jul-2007 19:09:10] <markw_> any snmp mib gurus here?
[19-Jul-2007 19:11:42] <eurowerke> heh I could use the same
[19-Jul-2007 19:11:55] <eurowerke> what do you need?
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[19-Jul-2007 19:41:32] <markw_> eurowerke: trying to import some mibs.
[19-Jul-2007 19:42:08] <markw_> smidump was giving an error about "REVISION" which I fixed, now it gives no errors and does a nice pretty dump, however when I run zenmib it still bombs.
[19-Jul-2007 19:42:44] <markw_> if I knew what zenmib was trying to do with the mib it'd probably help troubleshoot it.
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[19-Jul-2007 19:47:05] <bzed> markw_: try to add -v10 to the zenmib command, not sure if it works there, but it works for most other tools
[19-Jul-2007 19:49:22] <markw_> bzed: that's just debug, here's the output from 1 mib when I do that:
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[19-Jul-2007 19:49:49] <bzed> markw_: I thought zenmib doesn't work for you
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:00] <bzed> and I ahve no clue of snmp mibs yet
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:26] <markw_> bzed: it doesn't.
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:28] <markw_> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:F5-BIGIP-SYSTEM-MIB
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:28] <markw_> DEBUG:zen.zenmib:running smidump -fpython -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/SNMPv2-SMI" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/SNMPv2-TC" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/SNMPv2-CONF" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/ietf/INET-ADDRESS-MIB" -p "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-COMMON-MIB" "/opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-SYSTEM-MIB" 2>/dev/null
[19-Jul-2007 19:50:33] <markw_> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: /opt/zenoss/share/mibs/site/F5-BIGIP-SYSTEM-MIB
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[19-Jul-2007 19:51:38] <markw_> interesting.
[19-Jul-2007 19:51:44] <markw_> su to the zenoss user and it works.
[19-Jul-2007 19:52:18] <bzed> well, that's something I could have told you earlier
[19-Jul-2007 19:52:49] <markw_> thought it may be a perms thing.
[19-Jul-2007 19:56:07] <bzed> I think more a path thing
[19-Jul-2007 19:56:13] <bzed> or $ZENHOME missing
[19-Jul-2007 19:56:42] <bzed> reminds me that I have to poke the developers to get rid of that, I found a good way to do it
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[19-Jul-2007 20:38:01] <eurowerke> you still there markw_?
[19-Jul-2007 20:38:56] <eurowerke> brb
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[20-Jul-2007 02:44:13] <Darkfang> hi
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[20-Jul-2007 03:59:44] <iscream> hi Merciless
[20-Jul-2007 04:00:00] <iscream> Merciless : from where have you read about OIDs?
[20-Jul-2007 04:00:50] <Merciless> hey
what do you mean?[20-Jul-2007 04:01:53] <iscream> OID info, whatis OID, etc
[20-Jul-2007 04:02:13] <iscream> something description or kind of that:)
[20-Jul-2007 04:02:17] <Merciless> the OID is that string of numbers which points to a part of the MIB
[20-Jul-2007 04:02:28] <Merciless> if you google "CISCO SNMP" they have a long thing about SNMP and MIB's
[20-Jul-2007 04:03:13] <iscream> i know MIB
[20-Jul-2007 04:03:26] <iscream> than OID is kind of an INDEX to the MIB i think
[20-Jul-2007 04:04:20] <Merciless> yup
[20-Jul-2007 04:04:21] <Merciless> spot on
[20-Jul-2007 04:04:38] <iscream> and how do i know what are in the MIB...?:)
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[20-Jul-2007 04:07:39] <Merciless> now thast the hard one
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:42] <Merciless> a mib broswer
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:44] <Merciless> usign snmp walk
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:51] <Merciless> download the actual mib file and looking
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:53] <Merciless> few ways
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:58] <Merciless> i just asked someone els
[20-Jul-2007 04:07:58] <Merciless>
[20-Jul-2007 04:08:06] <Merciless> a MIB Browser is prob best
[20-Jul-2007 04:08:39] <iscream> i downloaded somekind of mib browser with a green icon, and connected to zenoss ip, but i had an aerror i guess, and uninstalled it
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:06] <Merciless> your meant to connect to an active SNMP host with a MIB Browser to see what mib's are available on that host
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:17] <iscream> i donno which mib contains the CPU temperature:)
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:19] <iscream> yep
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:19] <Merciless> the MIBs are stored on the host thus SNMP Informant will give the host MORE mibs
[20-Jul-2007 04:09:45] <iscream> i see
[20-Jul-2007 04:10:16] <iscream> did you manage to fix your probelm?
[20-Jul-2007 04:10:35] <iscream> the problem, wich was the disk usage on the OS tab is unknow, and so on
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:21] <Merciless> no
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:46] <Merciless> disk usage was ok for me
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:50] <Merciless> it was CPU that wasn't
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:52] <Merciless> and MEM
[20-Jul-2007 04:15:59] <Merciless> and then the Services and Processes bit fking up too
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[20-Jul-2007 04:18:09] <iscream> hmm
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:13] <iscream> i have mem ok
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:23] <iscream> disk was once ok, after that bad
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:27] <iscream> and services bad
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:34] <iscream> and installed softwares good:D
[20-Jul-2007 04:18:38] <iscream> that is my summary:D
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[20-Jul-2007 04:19:55] <ghira_> hi
[20-Jul-2007 04:20:57] <ghira_> is there anybody?
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[20-Jul-2007 04:26:09] <iscream> Merciless : how about i connected some snmp host , there wasnt any info bout disk usage and so on?:P
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[20-Jul-2007 04:26:38] <Merciless> Im confused at that last statement iscream
[20-Jul-2007 04:26:46] <Merciless> do you mean you discovered a new server and it hasnt got the info?
[20-Jul-2007 04:27:08] <iscream> yep
[20-Jul-2007 04:27:15] <Merciless> sucks
[20-Jul-2007 04:27:39] <iscream> ohh hell yeah:)
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[20-Jul-2007 04:33:55] <ghira_> anyone can explain me how to use helloworldzenpack? i've installed it... but now?
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[20-Jul-2007 04:44:32] <narwen> hi again
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[20-Jul-2007 04:44:54] <narwen> hi
[20-Jul-2007 04:47:56] <narwen> hi
[20-Jul-2007 04:48:25] <narwen> anyone can help me?
[20-Jul-2007 04:53:42] <Merciless> your beyond help ^-^
[20-Jul-2007 04:54:18] <narwen>
[20-Jul-2007 04:54:29] <narwen> i've installed the helloworldzenpack
[20-Jul-2007 04:54:41] <narwen> but can't find any documentation on how to use the zenpacks
[20-Jul-2007 04:55:51] <narwen> the same for httpmonitor
[20-Jul-2007 04:55:51] <narwen> :O
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:13] <iscream> narwen:http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8614
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to USE ZenPacks? (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:19] <narwen> yeah already read
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:27] <iscream> google is your friend and wiki is your girlfriend
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:34] <adytum-bot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_Rock_is_Your_Friend:_Kung_Fu_Records_Sampler_No._4
[20-Jul-2007 04:56:45] <iscream> lol:P
[20-Jul-2007 04:59:12] <narwen> i've already read that post, but... after adding httpmonitor to the templates, which new features i'll be able to use ?
[20-Jul-2007 05:18:25] <narwen> ok... there's a way for adding xmlrpc services monitoring or i've to do a zenpack for doing it?
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[20-Jul-2007 05:38:53] <Merciless> anyone familiar with netscreen?
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[20-Jul-2007 06:47:54] <stooo> hi room
[20-Jul-2007 06:48:13] <stooo> can anyone spare a min for a noob?
[20-Jul-2007 07:05:10] <iscream> Merciless : R U here?
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[20-Jul-2007 07:14:28] <narwen> hi
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[20-Jul-2007 07:26:23] <Merciless> iscream
[20-Jul-2007 07:26:24] <Merciless> yes I am
[20-Jul-2007 07:34:29] <iscream> so
[20-Jul-2007 07:34:37] <iscream> have you perf graph?
[20-Jul-2007 07:34:46] <iscream> and the disc info is good for you?
[20-Jul-2007 07:37:45] <Darkfang> is there a mean to disable status monitoring on a device?
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:01] <Merciless> yes and yes
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:08] <Merciless> and yes
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:38] <Merciless> Darkfang you do that in templates i do believe ;x... so Classes/Devices > Templates... for a specific device give it its own class i suppose, then just do it in the teplate for that class
[20-Jul-2007 07:39:46] <Merciless> at a guess
but im a newbie[20-Jul-2007 07:40:05] <Darkfang> eah i'm stupid
[20-Jul-2007 07:40:08] <Darkfang> it's in zProperties
[20-Jul-2007 07:41:54] <narwen>
[20-Jul-2007 07:41:55] <iscream> Merciless : have you done anything to run those, or it worked fine at first time?
[20-Jul-2007 07:42:27] <narwen> anyone can help me with this? http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2803
[20-Jul-2007 07:42:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Templates and XMLRPC (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Jul-2007 07:43:47] <Merciless> it takes a few hours for the data to be collected
[20-Jul-2007 07:43:49] <Merciless> but it worked over night
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[20-Jul-2007 07:47:33] <narwen> no one?
[20-Jul-2007 07:49:49] <narwen> sigh
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[20-Jul-2007 08:20:19] <stooo> anyone home?
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[20-Jul-2007 09:24:46] <junix|work> how do i setup the windows client??
[20-Jul-2007 09:31:22] <jp10558> There is no client for windows? Or do you mean SNMP Informant?
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[20-Jul-2007 09:31:45] <narwen> hi
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[20-Jul-2007 09:57:08] <junix|work> yes
[20-Jul-2007 10:01:40] <junix|work> jp10558: yes
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[20-Jul-2007 10:50:20] <tty01> anyone know if theres a way to get a total for the traffic going in/out for 2 interfaces on a graph?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:04:35] <Bulwinkle> tty01: no way in Zenoss natively that I can think of (yet)
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[20-Jul-2007 11:11:22] <jp10558> junix|work: what is the error you're getting with SNMP informant?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:12:54] <jrohw> does lock to anything useful? It certainly doesn't seem to keep me from deleting things?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:15:00] <maj> how do i clear zenoss issues
[20-Jul-2007 11:15:02] <maj> ?
[20-Jul-2007 11:17:19] <jrohw> maj: try moving them to history
[20-Jul-2007 11:17:46] <maj> well, i don't have checkboxes anywhere for them, i only see them on dashboard
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[20-Jul-2007 11:19:16] <jrohw> maj: they don't exist in the event console?
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[20-Jul-2007 11:21:22] <Bulwinkle> maj: click on the device with the errors and it will pull up the event log for that device
[20-Jul-2007 11:31:24] <junix|work> jp10558: i'm not getting any erro, i'm looking for docs to configuyre it
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[20-Jul-2007 11:42:53] <jp10558> There's no real configuration for it, you install it and that's it.
[20-Jul-2007 11:43:08] <jp10558> All the configuration is done via the Windows SNMP service
[20-Jul-2007 11:46:38] <maj> jrohw, well, those errors don't show up under Device Issues on dash board, they show up under Zenoss Issues, so i am not sure where to look those events up
[20-Jul-2007 11:46:47] <maj> there is no Zenoss under devices
[20-Jul-2007 11:47:01] <junix|work> jp10558: do i need to put it in the ip addy of the server in snmp service?
[20-Jul-2007 11:47:32] <maj> i mean Bulwinkle
[20-Jul-2007 11:48:01] <jrohw> ahh.. I have no idea then.. I haven't had one of those before..
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[20-Jul-2007 12:19:36] <Bulwinkle> maj: just go to the event console on the left tab ALL events will be there
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[20-Jul-2007 12:36:54] <hspcd> Howdy folks
[20-Jul-2007 12:40:58] <Bulwinkle> hi hspcd
[20-Jul-2007 12:41:21] <hspcd> hi Bulwinkle
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[20-Jul-2007 12:42:52] <hspcd> does anyone here know where I can change which version of Python that Zenoss uses?
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[20-Jul-2007 13:59:30] <jp10558> junix|work: sorry for going away so much
[20-Jul-2007 14:00:15] <jp10558> If you're using Server 2k3, you do need to allow the ZenOSS server to send SNMP packets, and set up the community name (public) in the SNMP service
[20-Jul-2007 14:02:44] <junix|work> what about in the service config, anything i need to setup there?
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[20-Jul-2007 14:04:03] <jp10558> in the service config on 2k3
[20-Jul-2007 14:04:18] <jp10558> you'll need to set under the Traps
[20-Jul-2007 14:04:40] <jp10558> tab the community name (public) and the machines it will accept SNMP packets from, that is the Zenoss Server FQDN
[20-Jul-2007 14:04:56] <jp10558> err, sorry, trap destinations
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:03] <jp10558> also under the security tab
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:12] <jp10558> you'll want to uncheck
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:19] <jp10558> Send authentication trap
[20-Jul-2007 14:05:39] <jp10558> and either accept SNMP packet from any host, or again enter the FQDN of the ZenOSS server there
[20-Jul-2007 14:06:00] <jp10558> That will get you SNMP info from Windows, including the performance metrics
[20-Jul-2007 14:06:08] <jp10558> it will not get you WMI data like windows services
[20-Jul-2007 14:06:43] <jp10558> To do that, you need a domain admin account or local admin account credentials to give to Zenoss in the zProperties of the machine or /Server/Windows class
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[20-Jul-2007 14:37:32] <maj> is there any way to minitor services such as snort on linux, that don't actually bind to a specific port
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[20-Jul-2007 14:40:17] <hspcd> anybody home?
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[20-Jul-2007 14:56:34] <jrohw> anyone know how to debug the zenaction daemon?
[20-Jul-2007 14:56:50] <jrohw> i'm getting stack traces about HeartBeat not found
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[20-Jul-2007 15:17:06] <jp10558> jrohw: I don't know how to debug anything, but what about clearing heartbeats and see if it goes away?
[20-Jul-2007 15:17:23] <jrohw> how do I clear them globally?
[20-Jul-2007 15:22:27] <jp10558> Go to event manager
[20-Jul-2007 15:22:33] <jp10558> click on the dropdown, clear heartbeats
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[20-Jul-2007 15:23:51] <jrohw> jp10558: thanks! Now just a few minutes to see if it worked
[20-Jul-2007 15:31:35] <jrohw> sweet.. seems to have resolved that
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[20-Jul-2007 15:57:03] <davetoo> oops
[20-Jul-2007 15:59:13] <davetoo> So I'm trying with zendmd to get a list of all devices of a particular hardware product type. Any ideas?
[20-Jul-2007 16:00:32] <davetoo> I need to iterate through that list and change a zProperty
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[20-Jul-2007 17:50:28] <KernelPanik> can zenoss collect netflow type of data from cisco routers
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[20-Jul-2007 19:02:11] <tristanbob_> KernelPanik: try nfsen.sf.net
[20-Jul-2007 19:07:49] <bzed> KernelPanik: or http://www.mindrot.org/projects/softflowd
[20-Jul-2007 19:07:49] <adytum-bot> Title: softflowd - fast software NetFlow probe (at www.mindrot.org)
[20-Jul-2007 19:08:12] <bzed> KernelPanik: afaik there's a special cisco zenpack in the enterprise edition, but you want to use the webform to ask for details
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[20-Jul-2007 20:40:49] <KernelPanik> kewl, thanks a lot guys,
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[22-Jul-2007 05:21:09] <KA> Hi All
[22-Jul-2007 05:22:47] <KA> it's three times I send an email to zenoss-dev at lists.zenoss.org, it's accepted by the server but not arrives, without any notice bounced
[22-Jul-2007 05:28:59] <bzed> KA: unfortunately the ML doesn't deliver the mail back to the sender
[22-Jul-2007 05:29:51] <bzed> what was the subject of your mail?
[22-Jul-2007 05:30:34] <KA> bzed: actually I cannot see it on http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-dev/2007/thread.html and the firsts two a friend wasn't able to see them too
[22-Jul-2007 05:30:34] <adytum-bot> Title: The zenoss-dev 2007 Archive by thread (at lists.zenoss.org)
[22-Jul-2007 05:30:53] <bzed> KA: are you subscribed to the list?
[22-Jul-2007 05:31:39] <KA> yes, now I've disabled the reception of msgs, but I check it via web
[22-Jul-2007 05:31:44] <KA> I'm looking for the subj
[22-Jul-2007 05:32:44] <KA> last one, yesterday at 16:29 GMT+2: "zenpack creation and properties setup"
[22-Jul-2007 05:34:36] <KA> postfix's log says server accepted delivery, I've the remote smtp id if you need
[22-Jul-2007 05:36:59] <bzed> KA: I'm not working @ zenoss, so that's nothing I can help you with. you wanna poke cluther when he's around
[22-Jul-2007 05:37:14] <KA> ok sorry
[22-Jul-2007 05:37:38] <bzed> but indeed, your mail is not in my inbox, too
[22-Jul-2007 05:38:47] <KA> good to know (well not that good
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[23-Jul-2007 04:03:22] <Merciless> mornin all
[23-Jul-2007 04:04:10] <Merciless> Bulwinkle around?
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[23-Jul-2007 04:19:51] <Merciless> hey hey iscream
[23-Jul-2007 04:20:23] <iscream> hello Merciless
[23-Jul-2007 04:20:29] <iscream> how was your weekend?
[23-Jul-2007 04:21:27] <Merciless> not bad thanks
[23-Jul-2007 04:21:28] <Merciless> urself?
[23-Jul-2007 04:21:57] <iscream> my was good, i was with my girlfriend
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:07] <iscream> far far away from any PC:D
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:22] <Merciless> lol fantastic
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:27] <Merciless> but now back
[23-Jul-2007 04:22:42] <iscream> ohh yeah...XD
[23-Jul-2007 04:23:48] <iscream> strange... last time my zenoss showed me what kind of programs are installed on the monitored PC, and as i told you, it didnt show me the harddrive,etc...now...it doesnt show anything:)
[23-Jul-2007 04:28:18] <Merciless> rofl! unlucky!
[23-Jul-2007 04:28:28] <Merciless> well i still can't get it to monitor services properly
It just gives me false status!!!![23-Jul-2007 04:28:35] <Merciless> wonder if snmp informant is needed for that :s lol
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:07] <iscream> how can i find, what OID gives me which info-s?
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:26] <iscream> mib browser, or is there any page with the info on it?
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:30] <Merciless> Suppose you could try finding the template for it and it will have the OID
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:33] <Merciless> or indeed a MIB Browser
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:39] <Merciless> google is you friend I suppose
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:47] <adytum-bot> http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/T/trulyrics/trusupposetobemyfriendlyrics.htm
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:53] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:32:56] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:33:00] <Merciless> :/
[23-Jul-2007 04:36:54] <Merciless> hmmm you got commands on events working?
[23-Jul-2007 04:38:27] <iscream> i havent tried it yet
[23-Jul-2007 04:38:34] <iscream> im now with he mibs and oids
[23-Jul-2007 04:38:54] <Merciless> lol fair enough
[23-Jul-2007 04:39:13] <Merciless> i'm giving up on that for a bit.. it monitors cpu, hdd, and up/down.. their the crucial ones
[23-Jul-2007 04:39:17] <iscream> when i connect to the localhost with the mib browser it shows me everything good, but when i would connect to my windows PC, it shows on every mib the value 1
[23-Jul-2007 04:39:54] <iscream> yeah, your right, but it disturbs me that it shows me good, after that works nothing fine:S
[23-Jul-2007 04:44:47] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 04:44:50] <Merciless> true
[23-Jul-2007 04:44:52] <Merciless> pretty strange
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:00] <Merciless> there seem to be a lot of bugs in it
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:04] <iscream> Merciless: what is your OID to windows to shows free MB on hard drives?:P
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:11] <Merciless> lemme check
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:14] <iscream> k
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:41] <Merciless> "usedBlocks" - 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6
[23-Jul-2007 04:45:56] <Merciless> so thats how much hard drive space has been used
[23-Jul-2007 04:46:22] <iscream> fine,thanx
[23-Jul-2007 04:46:34] <Merciless> np
[23-Jul-2007 04:47:07] <iscream> and it gives 5row, when you debug it with snmpwalk, right?
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:14] <Merciless> i've never walked it before
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:26] <Merciless> i just tested it by lowering the threshold to 1 percent and seeing if it gave me an alert
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:28] <Merciless> it did
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:44] <iscream> (y)
[23-Jul-2007 04:50:46] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:05] <iscream> what does this means ? whats your opinion:
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:05] <iscream> Name Snmp Index
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:05] <iscream> C 2.67.58
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:24] <Merciless> maybe an index number or a relation to your HDD space
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:24] <iscream> on the hardware tab in zenoss at the device
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:43] <iscream> maybe:P
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:52] <Merciless> i dont get anythin in the hardware tab
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:54] <Merciless> except RAM used
[23-Jul-2007 04:51:58] <iscream> yes
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> but in OS tab
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> Mount Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> C:\ Label: Serial Number a4864694 19.1GB 4.1GB 15.0GB 21
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:01] <Merciless> E:\ Label:Test Serial Number ccffab2d 9.4GB 71.1MB 9.3GB 0
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:03] <iscream> Volts and so on , nothing ?
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:08] <iscream> ooo
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:08] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:10] <iscream> thats nice!
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:22] <iscream> in os
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:22] <iscream> Mount Total bytes Used bytes Free bytes % Util Lock
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:22] <iscream> C:\ Label: Serial Number f04c4e97 74.5GB unknown unknown unknown
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:24] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:52:40] <iscream> i cannot get it to work fine:S
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[23-Jul-2007 04:55:44] <Merciless> i got that the first time i tried
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:46] <Merciless> in fact
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:50] <Merciless> i think i got that wen using auto discovery
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:54] <Merciless> but when manually doing it it worked
[23-Jul-2007 04:55:59] <Merciless> maybe something to do with your SNMP Community String?
[23-Jul-2007 04:57:35] <iscream> i discovered it auto, and changed its class to /windows/server, after that it showed me the installed softwares, but this still not
[23-Jul-2007 04:57:52] <iscream> what do u mean snmp community string? how can i find out?
[23-Jul-2007 04:58:21] <Merciless> when you set up SNMP on a machine it by default has a public string... but like my company uses a private string.. this has to be inputted into zenoss so it can access the snmp
[23-Jul-2007 04:58:42] <Merciless> Device > Edit
[23-Jul-2007 04:58:58] <Merciless> Snmp community
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:03] <Merciless> Needs to go in there
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:24] <Merciless> also you need to make sure that the host is accepting SNMP requests from "Any Hosts" OR the specific IP of zenoss
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:25] <iscream> its public
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:34] <Merciless> then ignore me
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:35] <Merciless> ^-^
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:39] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:41] <iscream> nothing
[23-Jul-2007 04:59:52] <iscream> i would test it with my own hp laptop pc
[23-Jul-2007 05:00:01] <iscream> and i installed the simple snmp, and snmp informant
[23-Jul-2007 05:00:20] <iscream> its public on tha laptop, and accepts from any host the requests
[23-Jul-2007 05:01:03] <iscream> you know what i mean...when it would be private, it wouldnt show me anything, now it shows me parts of what i want at the end:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:01:21] <iscream> for example, it wouldnt show me the installed softwares to my laptop
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:17] <iscream> Merciless: u added just servers, or PCs as well?
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:23] <Merciless> Windows Servers
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:23] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:02:48] <iscream> only?
[23-Jul-2007 05:03:55] <Merciless> pretty much
[23-Jul-2007 05:03:58] <Merciless> a few printers as well
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:19] <iscream> and what would you monitor on rpinters?
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:33] <Merciless> it auto discovered them
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:34] <Merciless> basically up time
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:35] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:42] <iscream> is there any possibility to get an error, if the ink is empty or something?:P
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:47] <Merciless> ooo yes
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:49] <Merciless> there are mibs for that
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:50] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:04:54] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 05:05:04] <Merciless> its like soon you'll be able to get kettles and toasters with mibs in !
[23-Jul-2007 05:05:13] <Merciless> brb
[23-Jul-2007 05:07:31] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 05:08:10] <Merciless> back
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:06] <iscream> okay
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:15] <iscream> when i add the localhost device
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:19] <iscream> which on is the zenoss
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:41] <iscream> it shows me more more instead as the simple xp PC:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:09:46] <iscream> but still not the usage%
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:13] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:33] <Merciless> well
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:35] <Merciless> strange
[23-Jul-2007 05:11:35] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 05:19:45] <iscream> yeah
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:06] <iscream> ohh
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:10] <iscream> it shows me
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:16] <iscream> the %usage as well
[23-Jul-2007 05:26:18] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 05:29:28] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 05:35:05] <Merciless> any luck?
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:02] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:04] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:11] <Merciless> yey
good good[23-Jul-2007 05:36:18] <iscream> dont u know how can i restore to defaults the thresholds?:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:36] <Merciless> not a clue lol!
[23-Jul-2007 05:36:39] <Merciless> what threshold?
[23-Jul-2007 05:39:36] <iscream> a threshold which i added
[23-Jul-2007 05:39:39] <iscream> but i found now
[23-Jul-2007 05:39:41] <iscream> thanks
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:10] <Merciless> Fair enough
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:28] <iscream> Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:28] <iscream> 0 Unknown Intel 0 MHz 0 MHz 0 KB 0 KB 0 mV
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:29] <iscream> :S
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:35] <Merciless> i get that too
[23-Jul-2007 05:40:42] <iscream> it would be briliant if it would work:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:09] <Merciless> lol yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:14] <iscream> i guess
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:22] <iscream> we should download a mib
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:24] <iscream> not?:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:41:29] <iscream> the manufatrurers mib
[23-Jul-2007 05:42:15] <Merciless> nah
[23-Jul-2007 05:42:20] <Merciless> should be already on afaik
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:16] <iscream> on the monitored pc/server, right?:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:41] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:53] <Merciless> Zenoss looks for the OID/MIB on the actual server/pc
[23-Jul-2007 05:43:59] <Merciless> but it should be there already :S
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:18] <iscream> snmp informant should tell the info as well
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:34] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:36] <Merciless> and ROFL
[23-Jul-2007 05:44:55] <Merciless> someone at work had a big go at me the other day, because the network went down and i was the only one doing work in the server room (though I didnt touch anything)
[23-Jul-2007 05:45:04] <Merciless> now, that guy is downstairs in that room, and the whole network just went down.
[23-Jul-2007 05:45:23] <iscream> that guy is weird:)
[23-Jul-2007 05:45:39] <iscream> he wants to you go with the blame...not him
[23-Jul-2007 05:47:38] <Merciless> yup
[23-Jul-2007 05:59:14] <iscream> Merciless:
[23-Jul-2007 05:59:24] <iscream> i just tried out the event command
[23-Jul-2007 05:59:45] <iscream> that is what you asked before, right?
[23-Jul-2007 06:01:44] <Merciless> ye
[23-Jul-2007 06:01:52] <iscream> what is your question?
[23-Jul-2007 06:01:53] <Merciless> so for example if a service goes down, send a command to restart the service etc
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:02] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:09] <iscream> and...the question?:D
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:22] <Merciless> how the hell do you do it
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:32] <iscream> first
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:50] <iscream> a threshold, or an event comes in if the service is down
[23-Jul-2007 06:02:52] <iscream> right?
[23-Jul-2007 06:03:42] <Merciless> in theory
I cant get that working properly yet but yes[23-Jul-2007 06:04:44] <iscream> after that, you go to event manager on the left
[23-Jul-2007 06:04:51] <iscream> then commands
[23-Jul-2007 06:04:54] <iscream> and there it is
[23-Jul-2007 06:05:04] <iscream> also there is an instruction in the admin guide 2
[23-Jul-2007 06:11:43] <Merciless> yes but not too sure of the exact commands to put in etc
[23-Jul-2007 06:11:43] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 06:14:33] <iscream> shwell command
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[23-Jul-2007 06:46:46] <kippi> hey
[23-Jul-2007 06:46:58] <kippi> how can you change the outgoing e-mail address?
[23-Jul-2007 07:00:32] <iscream> Merciless
[23-Jul-2007 07:00:39] <iscream> r u around?
[23-Jul-2007 07:01:29] <Merciless> Yes iscream
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:18] <iscream> Merciless :
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:19] <iscream> ohh
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:26] <Merciless> ?
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:27] <iscream> i forgot what i wanted to ask you about...
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:29] <iscream> :S
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:33] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:39] <iscream> minute...:)
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:54] <Merciless> ok
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:54] <iscream> o
[23-Jul-2007 07:05:55] <iscream> i got it
[23-Jul-2007 07:06:20] <iscream> have we figured out how can we alert or something when a process goes down?
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:05] <Merciless> if you monitor a process it should do it automatically like with the service as far as I'm aware
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:07] <Merciless> have you tried it/
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:16] <iscream> ohh
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:18] <iscream> i see it now
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:33] <iscream> fail severity
[23-Jul-2007 07:07:39] <iscream> in the process
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:03] <iscream> same as services
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:33] <Merciless> aye
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:36] <Merciless> still doesnt work for me tho
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:37] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:41] <Merciless> wonder if SNMP Informant is required for it
[23-Jul-2007 07:08:54] <Merciless> i know my WMI is working ok so thats the only thing
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:20] <iscream> Merciless: the service monitoring isnt working?
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:35] <Merciless> thats right
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:39] <iscream> hmm
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:39] <Merciless> it wont monitor my services properly
[23-Jul-2007 07:11:47] <Merciless> when one goes down, it doesnt go down on zenoss
[23-Jul-2007 07:12:28] <iscream> yeah, its familiar with the case i have:), i close the process, and still it shows its up...but when i remodell the device, its ok
[23-Jul-2007 07:12:46] <iscream> i donno, maybe the remodelling timeinterval must be smaller or donno
[23-Jul-2007 07:13:59] <Merciless> remodelling is a big process though
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:07] <Merciless> it should be able ot monitor services and processes without remodelling
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:11] <iscream> yeah
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:15] <iscream> i thought so
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:25] <iscream> but i was wrong i guess
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:41] <iscream> i waited 30-60minutes to change its state, but nothing happened
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:44] <Merciless> na cant be wrong that'd be silly lol
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:48] <Merciless> must be somet broken
[23-Jul-2007 07:14:54] <iscream> sure:D
[23-Jul-2007 07:16:22] <iscream> i am broken...from all of these very good things that i cannot do properly:
[23-Jul-2007 07:26:43] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 07:34:51] <iscream> Merciless
[23-Jul-2007 07:35:03] <iscream> Now you are monitoring this process, so after a remodel (which you can do manually or it occurs
[23-Jul-2007 07:35:03] <iscream> at 6 hour intervals)
[23-Jul-2007 07:43:29] <Merciless> ?
[23-Jul-2007 07:59:55] <iscream> i found it in the admin guide
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:11] <iscream> it will automatic change its state at 6hours interval:D
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:40] <Merciless> but thats crazy
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:46] <Merciless> if its a really important service
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:50] <Merciless> for a customer lets say
[23-Jul-2007 08:00:55] <Merciless> then i'd need to know like asap
[23-Jul-2007 08:01:30] <Merciless> wonder if theres a way to hack/cahnge it lol
[23-Jul-2007 08:02:16] <iscream> i think
[23-Jul-2007 08:02:21] <iscream> its default the 6hour
[23-Jul-2007 08:02:25] <iscream> we can change it
[23-Jul-2007 08:03:30] <Merciless> is it ok to have it like every 10 mins?
[23-Jul-2007 08:03:36] <Merciless> or would that cause problems to the system
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:08] <iscream> http://ZENHOST:8080/zport/dmd/Monitors/Performance/localhost
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:09] <iscream> check this out
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:09] <iscream> in the monitors
[23-Jul-2007 08:04:09] <iscream> maybe there can we change intervals
[23-Jul-2007 08:06:42] <iscream> Config Cycle Interval (mins) 360
[23-Jul-2007 08:06:47] <iscream> i think this is it
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:24] <Merciless> aaaaaaaaye
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:28] <Merciless> but tahst config cycle :s
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:30] <Merciless> not remodel
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:34] <iscream> maybe if we change it to 10, it would be "more active" ... and would eat more from the server CPU
[23-Jul-2007 08:07:52] <iscream> remodel does the config change search
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:07] <Merciless> hmm
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:11] <Merciless> i think we need professional advice
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:13] <Merciless> Bulwinkle!!!!!!
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:13] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 08:08:18] <iscream> ehhe:D
[23-Jul-2007 08:14:34] <iscream> Merciless : it would be it
[23-Jul-2007 08:14:41] <iscream> we are professionals 2:P
[23-Jul-2007 08:16:33] <jp10558> I just checked in, but you want to know if a new process starts as opposed to if a monitored process changes states?
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:01] <Merciless> no
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:04] <Merciless> monitored process changes state
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:10] <Merciless> and monitored service
[23-Jul-2007 08:18:20] <Merciless> but without waiting 6 hours as it could be a critical process etc
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:01] <iscream> Merciless : it would be it
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:04] <iscream> i try i now
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:13] <iscream> i tryin' it now
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:16] <jp10558> I get results with 2.0.3 regarding a process changing state (say it stops) in about 2 minutes? Well, with windows clients anyway
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:38] <Merciless> well im usingin an earlier version for a start
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:44] <Merciless> maybe upgrading might help hmmm
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:48] <Merciless> mine simply won't update
[23-Jul-2007 08:21:55] <jp10558> Well, I used 1.1.1 and had the same performance with ZenWin etc
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:00] <Merciless> oooo
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:05] <Merciless> your using zenwin for it?
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:09] <iscream> zenwin
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:10] <iscream> ehhe
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:10] <Merciless> im not using zenwin or snmpinformant
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:11] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:13] <Merciless> just standard mibs
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:19] <iscream> mercirless is trendy:)
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:28] <iscream> without anythingm, just pure energy:D
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:30] <jp10558> Are you monitoring Windows machines or Linux or something else?
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <Merciless> rofl
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:34] <Merciless> windows
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:41] <Merciless> other things as well but im concentrating on windwos atm
[23-Jul-2007 08:22:45] <jp10558> How do you get process monitoring without zenwin?
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:02] <jp10558> I can't see any way to export that SNMP data with the built in client
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:12] <jp10558> I have to use WMI (and it seems it's easier also)
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:14] <Merciless> Noooo idea.
Currently you can do service monitoring without zenwin though[23-Jul-2007 08:23:29] <jp10558> Oh, are you talking about IP services?
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:45] <Merciless> nope. WinServices
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:46] <Merciless> i.e
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:47] <Merciless> err
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:49] <jp10558> I see, yes, that works - but does sometimes seem to be off compared to the WMI monitoring
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:49] <Merciless> ClipBook
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:55] <jp10558> Clipbook?
[23-Jul-2007 08:23:56] <Merciless> hmmm
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:01] <Merciless> ye its a windows service
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:04] <Merciless> uselss but there
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:11] <Merciless> i was doing it to test with
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:12] <jp10558> you looking with 1.1.x or 2.x?
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:16] <Merciless> 2.x
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:19] <Merciless> its in the list
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:21] <jp10558> let me take a look
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:26] <Merciless> but when i shut clipbook service down it doesnt update.. :s
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:27] <Merciless> et
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:28] <Merciless> *etc
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:30] <jp10558> err
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:42] <jp10558> with 2.x, did you happen to model the device as a Windows machine?
[23-Jul-2007 08:24:46] <Merciless> yes
[23-Jul-2007 08:25:33] <jp10558> Did you ever modify the zProperties with a username/account?
[23-Jul-2007 08:26:07] <Merciless> yup
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[23-Jul-2007 10:20:47] <iscream> jp10558
[23-Jul-2007 10:20:50] <iscream> r u here?
[23-Jul-2007 10:23:59] <Merciless> I am
[23-Jul-2007 10:24:03] <Merciless> but i'm not much use
[23-Jul-2007 10:24:04] <Merciless>
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:11] <iscream> dont be silly
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:21] <iscream> i installed the new vmware applicant
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:37] <iscream> and wanted to auto discover devices, it found 0 devices:S
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:42] <iscream> and a lot of error:S
[23-Jul-2007 10:25:54] <iscream> i think tomrrow i will see againand again for problems:S
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:09 INFO zen Executing command: /home/zenoss/bin/zendisc run --net=192.168.0.0
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:17 INFO zen INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '192.168.0.0'
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:17 INFO zen INFO:zen.Ping:starting ping cycle Mon Jul 23 16:29:17 2007
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:20 INFO zen INFO:zen.Ping:ping cycle complete Mon Jul 23 16:29:20 2007
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:35] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:20 INFO zen INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.50 seconds
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:36] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:21 INFO zen INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:38] <iscream> 2007-07-23 16:29:21 INFO zen Done
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:40] <iscream> Navigate to network
[23-Jul-2007 10:29:42] <iscream>
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[23-Jul-2007 10:30:43] <Merciless> erm
[23-Jul-2007 10:30:54] <Merciless> your using a public string right?
[23-Jul-2007 10:30:58] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:01] <Merciless> weird :s
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:10] <Merciless> try and ping an ip with snmp enabled from the console in vmware
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:45] <Merciless> and if its pinging but getting no reply.. thats a weird one becuase i take it your connected through http
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:51] <iscream> ohhh
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:54] <iscream> i got it
[23-Jul-2007 10:31:55] <iscream> thx
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:37] <iscream> no
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:41] <iscream> i havent got it
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:44] <iscream> hm hm
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:51] <iscream> maybe tomorrow i will have more luck
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:56] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 10:32:58] <Merciless> what did u think it was?
[23-Jul-2007 10:33:18] <iscream> cause of the vmware i thought it was problem with brigded/nat problem
[23-Jul-2007 10:33:59] <iscream> but it was ok bridged, also when i add a specific ip it is adding it, but when it comes to auto discovery it gives an info above
[23-Jul-2007 10:34:41] <Merciless> im assuming the devices are on the network 192.168.0.0/24
[23-Jul-2007 10:34:42] <Merciless> ?
[23-Jul-2007 10:34:59] <iscream> yep
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:02] <iscream> its strange
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:11] <iscream> in the 2.0.0 ther wasnt any of this kind of info...
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream> Broadcom 440x 10_100 Integrated Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream> ip 192.168.0.76 is down
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:27] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:28] <iscream> 2007/07/23 16:29:20.000
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:30] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:32] <iscream> 2007/07/23 16:29:20.000
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:34] <iscream>
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:36] <iscream> 1
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:39] <iscream> no controller, only warning that the IP is down
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:43] <Merciless> try adding the device manually?
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:45] <iscream> now ip, and the controller is down
[23-Jul-2007 10:35:50] <iscream> then its ok
[23-Jul-2007 10:36:04] <iscream> but i should add all the PCs add to it...?:S
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[23-Jul-2007 10:46:40] <iscream> 2.0.0 better for me...:P
[23-Jul-2007 10:47:23] <Merciless> sounds it
[23-Jul-2007 10:48:42] <iscream> i read things bout 2.0.3 and there are just bugs and kind of things ...so its not to good:)
[23-Jul-2007 10:48:44] <iscream> yet
[23-Jul-2007 10:50:01] <Merciless> o ye like what?
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:23] <iscream> maybe it will be okay, but now i think 2.0.3 has more problems, than positives
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:30] <iscream> i go home
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:31] <iscream> im sick:P
[23-Jul-2007 10:52:59] <Merciless> lol
[23-Jul-2007 10:53:02] <iscream> so
[23-Jul-2007 10:53:05] <iscream> have fun!
[23-Jul-2007 10:53:06] <iscream> byebye
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[23-Jul-2007 11:18:48] <jp10558> I'm back
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[23-Jul-2007 12:00:04] <Merciless> how are you jp10558
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[23-Jul-2007 14:42:07] <davetoo> </crickets>
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[23-Jul-2007 15:39:34] <Keizer> Sup guys
[23-Jul-2007 15:39:45] <Keizer> Where do I define the mysql authentication info?
[23-Jul-2007 15:39:56] <Keizer> I'm gettings mysql authentication errors
[23-Jul-2007 15:40:02] <Keizer> I just need to know the config file
[23-Jul-2007 15:44:16] <Bulwinkle> Keizer: you have to do it in mysql
[23-Jul-2007 15:44:28] <Bulwinkle> Keizer: its kept in the mysql database
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[23-Jul-2007 15:51:36] <Keizer> Bulwinkle: That doens't make sense to me but ok
[23-Jul-2007 15:51:45] <Keizer> Wait a sec
[23-Jul-2007 15:51:59] <Keizer> I meant the zenoss username/password for mysql
[23-Jul-2007 15:52:05] <Keizer> Is it zenoss/zenoss?
[23-Jul-2007 15:56:22] <Bulwinkle> Keizer: I don't know
[23-Jul-2007 16:06:20] <davetoo> Keizer: are you asking about the VMware appliance install? Or RPM or Source?
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[23-Jul-2007 16:20:59] <Keizer> [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.defer.FirstError: FirstError(<twisted.python.failure.Failure exceptions.AttributeError>, 1)
[23-Jul-2007 16:22:55] <Keizer> WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Reconnected to ZenHub
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[23-Jul-2007 17:58:05] <davetoo> Aw, Maaaan.... Why doesn't ZDeviceLoader.loadDevice() return the new device???
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[23-Jul-2007 19:37:50] <eurowerke> wow real active here today ^_^
[23-Jul-2007 19:37:58] <eurowerke> lol
[23-Jul-2007 19:52:45] <davetoo> So far it's always seemed dead in the middle of the US workday
[23-Jul-2007 19:52:49] <davetoo> when I need help the most
[23-Jul-2007 19:59:42] <bzed> yeah, for me it seems most time european people are around here
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[23-Jul-2007 20:06:07] <eurowerke> hrm
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[24-Jul-2007 00:22:01] -adytum-bot- New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Farewell, Zenoss - 23 Jul, 11:04PM
[24-Jul-2007 00:22:01] * DaveToo yawns
[24-Jul-2007 00:22:02] -adytum-bot- http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=141
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[24-Jul-2007 02:20:12] <iscream> good "morning"
[24-Jul-2007 02:21:20] <Darkfang> hi
[24-Jul-2007 02:56:28] <Darkfang> i'm modifying Filesystem template
[24-Jul-2007 02:56:38] <Darkfang> how do you get the partition name in zenoss?
[24-Jul-2007 02:56:45] <Darkfang> (i need it to run a ssh command)
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[24-Jul-2007 03:04:05] <iscream> why would you need it?
[24-Jul-2007 03:05:16] <Darkfang> to run a df command ^^
[24-Jul-2007 03:05:22] <Darkfang> only on the right partition
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:05] <Darkfang> i want to run this df -m | awk '{if($6=="diskname") {if(substr($1,0,9) == "/dev/disk") {printf("DISK OK | ratio=%s\n",$5)} else {print "VIRTUAL DISK OK | ratio=0%"} exit 0;}}'
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:12] <Darkfang> where diskname = partition name
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:32] <Darkfang> i need this because OS X uses lots of virtual disk
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:39] <Darkfang> and they are all at 100% usage
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:46] <iscream> i see
[24-Jul-2007 03:06:57] <iscream> look in the zenoss-user forum
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:08] <iscream> i think once i found something familiar with it
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:17] <Darkfang> maybe something like ${here/name}
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:22] <Darkfang> or something like this
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:26] <Darkfang> i'll check
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <iscream> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=1
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View Forum - zenoss-users (at community.zenoss.com)
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <iscream> search in this forum
[24-Jul-2007 03:07:51] <iscream> i guess
[24-Jul-2007 03:15:10] <Darkfang> can't find it :s
[24-Jul-2007 03:21:47] <iscream> i hate it : WMI error talking to XXX: com_error(88): DOS code 0x00000058 - i wrote in the zenwinuser ...but still
[24-Jul-2007 03:24:42] <Darkfang> is there any mean to list all the attribute of a device?
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[24-Jul-2007 03:52:41] <Merciless> morning all
[24-Jul-2007 03:53:42] <iscream> morning 2 you 2
[24-Jul-2007 03:54:00] <Merciless> how are you
[24-Jul-2007 03:54:57] <iscream> u can read my today's issue:P
[24-Jul-2007 04:01:27] <Merciless> whats that?
[24-Jul-2007 04:02:23] <iscream> i hate it : WMI error talking to XXX: com_error(88): DOS code 0x00000058 - i wrote in the zenwinuser ...but still
[24-Jul-2007 04:03:33] <Merciless> does wbemtest work for that machine
[24-Jul-2007 04:03:49] <Merciless> and maybe you wrote the wrong things in it?
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:12] <iscream> just the yesterdays xp notebook
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:19] <iscream> i wrote in the user
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:25] <iscream> cause i havent got adminpassword
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:38] <iscream> cluther sad its ok the blank password
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:44] <Merciless> yup
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:51] <Merciless> it will just login with the username in that case and no password
[24-Jul-2007 04:04:52] <iscream> yesterday was ok the wbemtest
[24-Jul-2007 04:05:03] <Merciless> you get the same error with or without? and try the wbemtest again ;0
[24-Jul-2007 04:05:05] <iscream> after that was wrog
[24-Jul-2007 04:06:39] <iscream> wbemtest is ok
[24-Jul-2007 04:06:52] <Merciless> ok and you get the same error with and without the username in there?
[24-Jul-2007 04:07:48] <iscream> when i leave blank in the zwinuser?
[24-Jul-2007 04:08:06] <Darkfang> Merciless, do you know how to get a partition name using THALES expression in a filesystem template?
[24-Jul-2007 04:09:02] <Merciless> no.
[24-Jul-2007 04:09:05] <Merciless> yes iscream
[24-Jul-2007 04:09:33] <Merciless> iscream : Im trying to determine if it still things its a bad username/password.. so to test, we can purposly put in a bad one and see if we get the SAME error
[24-Jul-2007 04:10:48] <iscream> Merciless : yes
[24-Jul-2007 04:11:12] <iscream> Merciless: with blank zwinuser same problem
[24-Jul-2007 04:11:41] <iscream> its strange, cause i havent changed anything since yesterday, and then was okay, and today i have this
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:02] <Merciless> you restarted zenoss services?
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:05] <Merciless> and your laptop/
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:44] <iscream> im just restarting the laptop
[24-Jul-2007 04:12:52] <iscream> the zenoss services yes
[24-Jul-2007 04:14:01] <Merciless> how odd
try removing the device from zenoss and readding it [24-Jul-2007 04:14:18] <iscream> okay
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:03] <iscream> now
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:05] <iscream> wmi talking error
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:10] <iscream> i set up the username
[24-Jul-2007 04:16:16] <iscream> './username'
[24-Jul-2007 04:17:00] <Merciless> just do
[24-Jul-2007 04:17:01] <Merciless> Administrator
[24-Jul-2007 04:17:02] <Merciless> no ./
[24-Jul-2007 04:18:59] <iscream> stoÃ�©Ã�©
[24-Jul-2007 04:19:01] <iscream> still
[24-Jul-2007 04:19:25] <Merciless>
[24-Jul-2007 04:19:40] <iscream> first time it was the problem i wrote in, now it cannot connect :S
[24-Jul-2007 04:20:27] <Merciless> u looked on the forum?
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:29] <iscream> yeah
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:34] <iscream> i had before this problem
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:48] <iscream> than i just wrote in './winadmin' and was ok
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:50] <iscream> now its not
[24-Jul-2007 04:21:52] <iscream> well
[24-Jul-2007 04:22:00] <iscream> i'll be waiting if something happens:P
[24-Jul-2007 04:22:46] <Merciless> good luck
[24-Jul-2007 04:23:07] <Merciless> right now i have to burn CentOS to cd.. partition this other computer I have here.. stick CentOS on it.. then figure out how the hell to install Zenoss to it
[24-Jul-2007 04:23:46] <iscream> its simple:D
[24-Jul-2007 04:24:28] <iscream> http://webaj.com/how-install-zenoss-1-1-2-centos-5-0-server-and-network-monitoring.htm
[24-Jul-2007 04:24:28] <adytum-bot> Title: How to install Zenoss 1.1.2 on Centos 5.0 - Server and network monitoring. | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[24-Jul-2007 04:26:08] <Merciless> thats for1.1.2 though
[24-Jul-2007 04:26:12] <Merciless> not sure if its the same due to python
[24-Jul-2007 04:26:53] <iscream> i think familiar, still python2.4
[24-Jul-2007 04:27:53] <Merciless> http://webaj.com/zenoss-2-0-core-installation-guide-centos-looks-network-and-server-monitoring-has-gone-web-2-0.htm
[24-Jul-2007 04:27:53] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.0 core installation guide for CentOS. Looks like network and server monitoring has gone web 2.0 | webAJ.com (at webaj.com)
[24-Jul-2007 04:27:55] <Merciless> thats better
[24-Jul-2007 04:28:39] <iscream>
[24-Jul-2007 04:30:40] <Merciless> brb phone
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[24-Jul-2007 05:03:03] <Darkfang> when i run zencommand on a device it tells there's no scheduled commands although there are many differents commands used for rrd graphics ?O
[24-Jul-2007 05:19:43] <Darkfang> no idea?
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[24-Jul-2007 05:38:17] <Merciless> back
[24-Jul-2007 05:38:21] * Merciless kicks iscream
[24-Jul-2007 05:38:24] <Merciless> you there?
[24-Jul-2007 05:43:26] <iscream> wwhahata?
[24-Jul-2007 05:43:35] <iscream> ttzup?:P
[24-Jul-2007 05:45:51] <Darkfang> How can you use a "$" in a ssh command?
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:20] <Darkfang> it seems zenoss doesn't appreciate the use of a $ if it's not a thales expression ^^
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:45] <Merciless> maybe in "" Darkfang
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:46] <Merciless> at a gues
[24-Jul-2007 05:46:51] <Merciless> or '
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[24-Jul-2007 05:50:51] <Darkfang> i tried "", ' ' and \
[24-Jul-2007 05:50:54] <Darkfang> not working :@
[24-Jul-2007 06:05:12] <Darkfang> its $$
[24-Jul-2007 06:05:14] <Darkfang> ^^
[24-Jul-2007 06:09:25] <Merciless> lol
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[24-Jul-2007 07:21:18] <iscream> Merciless : r u here?
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[24-Jul-2007 07:31:55] <iscream> or
[24-Jul-2007 07:32:00] <iscream> jp10558 : r u here?
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[24-Jul-2007 07:48:40] <Merciless> I am iscream
[24-Jul-2007 07:49:02] <iscream> Merciless : im stucked with this wmi error
[24-Jul-2007 07:49:06] <iscream> it cann connect
[24-Jul-2007 07:49:10] <iscream> but cannot communicate:S
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[24-Jul-2007 08:06:48] <Darkfang> i'm still looking for a way to get the partition name using thales expression for the filesystem template
[24-Jul-2007 08:07:31] <Merciless> lol
[24-Jul-2007 08:07:37] <Merciless> FORUMS people ^-^
[24-Jul-2007 08:07:56] <Darkfang> ?
[24-Jul-2007 08:13:55] <jp10558> iscream: I am here
[24-Jul-2007 08:14:10] <jp10558> early morning for me
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[24-Jul-2007 08:16:52] <iscream> jp10558 : nice:P
[24-Jul-2007 08:18:09] <iscream> jp10558 : so ...yesterday my xp was ok, but today, it sends me a WMI error...:
[24-Jul-2007 08:18:10] <iscream> WMI error talking to XXX: com_error(88): DOS code 0x00000058
[24-Jul-2007 08:21:27] <jp10558> mmm
[24-Jul-2007 08:21:39] <jp10558> Can't say I've seen that before
[24-Jul-2007 08:22:11] <jp10558> Can you still do a wbemtest from another windows machine to the target XP machine using the same credentials as ZenOSS is using?
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[24-Jul-2007 08:37:45] <iscream> jp10558
[24-Jul-2007 08:37:54] <iscream> i can do he wbemtest on the XP machine
[24-Jul-2007 08:38:01] <iscream> from another i havent tried yet
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:13] <iscream> access denied
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:19] <iscream> but on the target XP
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:25] <iscream> i have only admin user and thats all
[24-Jul-2007 08:39:27] <iscream> empty pass
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[24-Jul-2007 08:45:31] <F350> hi guys, i have some problems with 2.0.3, to be more precise, with the zenmodeler going down every 10 min
[24-Jul-2007 08:45:56] <F350> is this a bug ? i saw people complaining in the forum about that
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[24-Jul-2007 09:00:41] <F350> anyone here ?
[24-Jul-2007 09:12:13] <iscream> jp10558
[24-Jul-2007 09:12:16] <iscream> any clue?
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[24-Jul-2007 09:17:19] <Darkfang> has anyone ever get this when launching snmpd?
[24-Jul-2007 09:17:24] <Darkfang> error opening specified endpoint: udp:161
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[24-Jul-2007 09:47:42] <iscream> bye
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[24-Jul-2007 10:19:12] <jp10558> sorryt
[24-Jul-2007 10:19:41] <jp10558> mmm
[24-Jul-2007 10:20:22] <jp10558> Darkfang: is there any other service holding that port open on the linux machine
[24-Jul-2007 10:25:00] <tty01> anyone know if theres a way to add the total from 3 different data sources into a graph?
[24-Jul-2007 10:33:46] <Darkfang> i tried to see with netstat but nothing
[24-Jul-2007 10:33:50] <Darkfang> it seems i have to reboot it
[24-Jul-2007 10:33:57] <Darkfang> it solved the probleme for many peopel
[24-Jul-2007 10:34:27] * Darkfang is still looking for a way to get a partition name using THALES expression in the Filesystem template
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[24-Jul-2007 10:56:04] <jamesc> I get the error ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network on a Windows system I'm trying to model. It seems to be related to WMI but I'm not sure how to troubleshoot or fix it.
[24-Jul-2007 10:56:19] <jamesc> s/error/event/
[24-Jul-2007 10:56:37] <Merciless> make sure WMI is working
[24-Jul-2007 10:56:48] <Merciless> search for wbemtest in google, i think the first link is a zenoss page with how to test wmi
[24-Jul-2007 10:57:14] <Merciless> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-test-wmi-connectivity/
[24-Jul-2007 10:57:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Jul-2007 10:59:02] <jamesc> Maybe I should have clarified that. I've done the basic WMI stuff listed in the manual from my own workstation - that works - but I'm not sure how I can troubleshoot from ZenOSS, which is running on a Linux box.
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[24-Jul-2007 11:01:08] <jamesc> I don't really want to set up a userid/password for ZenOSS to speak to the Windows box - I'd be happy with SNMP and external scripts for individual services - so I tried setting ignoreWMI in the zProperties for the device
[24-Jul-2007 11:01:40] <jamesc> but I still get that error.
[24-Jul-2007 11:04:06] <Merciless> well then it shouldnt be related to WMI
[24-Jul-2007 11:04:11] <Merciless> so it wont model at all?/
[24-Jul-2007 11:04:19] <Merciless> it seems like Zenoss can't write the information to its own disk :s
[24-Jul-2007 11:08:07] <jamesc> but the ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT googles to a lot of Microsoft-specific errors in Windows.
[24-Jul-2007 11:20:25] <jamesc> It'll model with SNMP all right. And that's all I need.
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:01] <jp10558> Setting ignore WMI to true should stop WMI monitoring
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:05] <jamesc> hold on - what does zWinEventLog do - is that trying to scan the Windows Event Log by any chance?
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:21] <jp10558> It would be, you also needto turn that off
[24-Jul-2007 11:21:46] <jamesc> ah... that was still set to true... let's try setting it to false and see what happens.
[24-Jul-2007 11:22:52] <jp10558> good idea
[24-Jul-2007 11:23:05] <jp10558> I've never wanted only SNMP on windows though.
[24-Jul-2007 11:29:03] <jamesc> seeing as I only administer one Windows server, and the only service on it I care about is SQL Server, I think I can live with nothing but SNMP and a few scripts migrated from my previous Nagios installation.
[24-Jul-2007 11:29:35] <bzed> jamesc: poor man
[24-Jul-2007 11:29:53] <bzed> I'm proudly wearing 'no I will not fix your windows' at work
[24-Jul-2007 11:31:21] <jamesc> bzed: I am the IT department. While I've been able to resist the likes of Exchange and Sharepoint, I wasn't able to resist the likes of "upgrade to Sage which requires SQL Server". And that department pays my wages.
[24-Jul-2007 11:32:13] <jamesc> nope, still there. "ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)"
[24-Jul-2007 11:33:21] <jamesc> purely out of morbid curiosity, I probably ought to see if something like that is appearing in event viewer on the server itself.
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[24-Jul-2007 11:34:58] <jp10558> why not just set the machine not to be part of the Windows class?
[24-Jul-2007 11:35:34] <jamesc> that's what I was going to do next.
[24-Jul-2007 11:40:14] <dwigh1> Does anyone have any info on how ZenOSS (2.0 on Centos 5) affects sendmail?
[24-Jul-2007 11:40:49] <jamesc> yet still the same problem persists
[24-Jul-2007 11:41:43] <jamesc> is there any way I can run the Windows modeller from a Linux command line with more verbosity to see where in the procedure it goes wrong?
[24-Jul-2007 11:42:38] <jp10558> you should be able to look at the logs
[24-Jul-2007 11:42:41] <jp10558> from the web interface
[24-Jul-2007 11:42:49] <jp10558> from settings -> daemons
[24-Jul-2007 11:44:41] <jp10558> You can run things from the command line, but I don't know the commands myself
[24-Jul-2007 11:45:57] <jamesc> don't think that will be necessary - I suspect it may have something to do with me not having supplied a username/password
[24-Jul-2007 11:46:28] <dwigh1> pg 123 of the admin guide
[24-Jul-2007 11:46:35] <dwigh1> just FYI
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWin/zenwinmodeler.py", line 63, in processLoop
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> svcs = self.getServices(name, user, passwd)
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWin/zenwinmodeler.py", line 97, in getServices
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> dev.connect()
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWin/wmiclient.py", line 51, in connect
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:03] <jamesc> self.flags,self.valueset)
[24-Jul-2007 11:47:05] <jamesc> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/win32com/client.py", line 33, in ConnectServer
[24-Jul-2007 11:48:43] <jamesc> ahh..... unless - I have a whole bunch of services which I monitor by default. Some of which this Windows box is running, and thus show up in the OS tab. Does ZenOSS use WMI to monitor those on Windows hosts by any chance?
[24-Jul-2007 11:50:40] <jp10558> Yes, zenOSS uses WMI to monitor Windows Services
[24-Jul-2007 11:52:44] <dwigh1> Only the services listed under the "Win Services" heading for the device
[24-Jul-2007 11:53:03] <dwigh1> It seems not to add any by default
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[24-Jul-2007 11:54:55] <jamesc> ah right... so IP services are still monitored by regex then. Damn, that rules that out.
[24-Jul-2007 11:56:01] <jamesc> even adding a username/pw combo to zProperties, it still doesn't work and I have the same error in the service logs
[24-Jul-2007 11:56:20] <dwigh1> yeah, I noticed that it will not show the "Win Services" heading at all if it can't connect
[24-Jul-2007 11:56:41] <dwigh1> Have you tested your user/pass with wbemtest?
[24-Jul-2007 11:57:46] <jamesc> yes, but that doesn't really prove much because it worked anonymously which certainly shouldn't work.
[24-Jul-2007 11:59:05] <dwigh1> yeah, that doesn't sound right
[24-Jul-2007 12:00:24] <jamesc> I suspect with impersonation level set to "Impersonate", it was authenticating under my own username/pw - which of course works because I'm a domain admin...
[24-Jul-2007 12:01:22] <jamesc> how the hell can you have a NET WRITE FAULT anyway?
[24-Jul-2007 12:02:58] <jamesc> what is a NET WRITE FAULT? Microsoft helpfully say "it's a fault writing to the network".
[24-Jul-2007 12:03:55] <dwigh1> Honestly I have no idea
[24-Jul-2007 12:04:26] <dwigh1> Have you tried using wbemtest from an unpriviledged account?
[24-Jul-2007 12:05:18] <dwigh1> Oh, is the machine you're trying to monitor a domain controller?
[24-Jul-2007 12:05:35] <Darkfang> anyone ever had this?
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> ERROR:zen.ApplyDataMap:plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device WebServ
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> Traceback (most recent call last):
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 96, in processClient
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:14] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 137, in _applyDataMap
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:15] <Darkfang> changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:17] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 172, in _updateRelationship
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:19] <Darkfang> changed = self._createRelObject(device, objmap, rname)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:21] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 304, in _createRelObject
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:23] <Darkfang> self._updateObject(remoteObj, objmap)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:25] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 246, in _updateObject
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <Darkfang> setter(value)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:29] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py", line 243, in setIpAddresses
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:31] <Darkfang> self.addIpAddress(ip)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:35] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py", line 197, in addIpAddress
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:37] <Darkfang> ip, netmask = self._prepIp(ip, netmask)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:39] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py", line 190, in _prepIp
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:41] <Darkfang> netmask = maskToBits(iparray[1])
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:43] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/IpUtil.py", line 126, in maskToBits
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:45] <Darkfang> return int(netmask)
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:47] <Darkfang> ValueError: invalid literal for int(): None
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:49] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/IpUtil.py", line 126, in maskToBits
[24-Jul-2007 12:06:51] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/IpUtil.py", line 126, in maskToBits
[24-Jul-2007 12:07:22] <jamesc> dwigh: nope, it's just a domain member server. I think I'll call it a day for today as I've been staring at this screen for most of the day trying to make sense of what's going on.
[24-Jul-2007 12:07:47] <jamesc> Thanks for your help, everyone. Kudos to the dev team and stick at it, ZenOSS is a great piece of work.
[24-Jul-2007 12:07:58] <dwigh1> good luck
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[24-Jul-2007 16:49:08] <eurowerke> anyone around?
[24-Jul-2007 16:49:34] <jp10558> I am for a few minutes
[24-Jul-2007 16:49:50] <eurowerke> is there a place in 2.0.x to send a test email like you could in 1.2.x?
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:08] <jp10558> Yes
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:12] <eurowerke> perhaps directly through one of the daemons?
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:17] <eurowerke> is it GUIfied still?
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:20] <eurowerke>
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:27] <jp10558> Yes
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:30] <jp10558> Log in
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:30] <eurowerke> i've looked and can't find it anywhere lol
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:31] <eurowerke> k
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:35] <jp10558> click on preferences for the user
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:39] <eurowerke> ooohhhh
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:39] <eurowerke> hahaha
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:44] <jp10558> click on "Test" next to their e-mail address
[24-Jul-2007 16:50:49] <eurowerke> the ONE place I didn't check
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:11] <eurowerke> I thought I remembered it being under the alert settings or something
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:13] <eurowerke> *duh*
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:14] <eurowerke> thanks
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:15] <eurowerke> !
[24-Jul-2007 16:51:21] <jp10558> no problem
[24-Jul-2007 16:53:18] <eurowerke> what about for the admin user?
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:06] <eurowerke> I think I did check this area, admin user isn't listed under normal Settings-> Users tab
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:19] <jp10558> In general - I've read that the admin user should NOT be used for anything beyond the initial setup
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:39] <jp10558> create a site specific user who has Manager role
[24-Jul-2007 16:54:58] <jp10558> I assume this is for security, or it's a bug that works out the same
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:09] <jp10558> but admin user will not do e-mail properly if at all for alerts or anything
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:15] <eurowerke> yeah
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:18] <eurowerke> figured that was the case
[24-Jul-2007 16:55:37] <jp10558> anyway, my workday is done, so see everyone tomorrow!
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[24-Jul-2007 17:12:52] <davetoo> Well, this is "interesting"
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[24-Jul-2007 17:13:08] <davetoo> aka "slightly disappointing"
[24-Jul-2007 17:14:26] <davetoo> If you add a non-snmp device via the DeviceLoader (either in zendmd/python or the web interface), you don't get an IP in the corresponding Network
[24-Jul-2007 17:14:42] <davetoo> but if you run zendisc against the network, you *do*
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[24-Jul-2007 17:25:06] <bfinney> When I'm trying to model some servers I keep on getting 'ERROR zen.SnmpClient Unable to talk to device' and 'ERROR zen.SnmpClient Device timed out: are your SNMP settings correct?'. However I can do an snmpwalk without issue from within zenoss and from the commandline. Any ideas where else to look for the cause?
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[25-Jul-2007 02:39:27] <iscream> good morning
[25-Jul-2007 02:40:01] <iscream> jp10558 : pls tell me if you are here
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[25-Jul-2007 04:05:49] <Merciless> morning all
[25-Jul-2007 04:10:37] <iscream> hello
[25-Jul-2007 04:11:15] <Merciless> how are you
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:25] <Merciless> hmm
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:28] <Merciless> centos 4 = EL4
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:31] <Merciless> centos 5 = EL5
[25-Jul-2007 04:20:33] <Merciless> is that right?
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:44] <iscream> hy
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:49] <iscream> and yes
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:52] <iscream> im ok thanks
[25-Jul-2007 04:29:56] <iscream> & u?
[25-Jul-2007 04:36:31] <Merciless> I'm not bad thanks
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[25-Jul-2007 04:37:27] <Darkfang> hi
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[25-Jul-2007 04:59:42] <iscream> Merciless
[25-Jul-2007 04:59:50] <iscream> how are you doing with your job?
[25-Jul-2007 05:00:53] <Merciless> Waiting
[25-Jul-2007 05:01:01] <Merciless> im trying to get hold of a server to install centos on
[25-Jul-2007 05:01:10] <Merciless> or possible find out if it can be installed on a Sun Solaris box
[25-Jul-2007 05:05:36] <Darkfang> Merciless, it should be possible soon
[25-Jul-2007 05:05:45] <Darkfang> it's already possible with 4.2 beta
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[25-Jul-2007 05:06:21] <Darkfang> but why don' t you install solaris?
[25-Jul-2007 05:06:29] <Darkfang> more stable, more secure
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[25-Jul-2007 05:13:59] <iscream> or VMWare...
[25-Jul-2007 05:14:45] <Merciless> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/solaris-10-installation-instructions/
[25-Jul-2007 05:14:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2007 05:14:45] <Merciless> is that ALL i will need to do to get it working? Or do I need to install other things which aren't mendtioned in there
[25-Jul-2007 05:16:01] <Darkfang> certainly some stuff like python 2.4
[25-Jul-2007 05:16:24] <Darkfang> are you using 64 bit SPARC?
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[25-Jul-2007 05:24:19] <iscream> python yes
[25-Jul-2007 05:24:19] <Darkfang> Is it possible to make "statistical" threashold?
[25-Jul-2007 05:24:35] <Merciless> no idea
[25-Jul-2007 05:24:49] <Darkfang> it would be useful for ping delay for example
[25-Jul-2007 05:25:06] <Darkfang> it it get to long compare to average in history, you have an error
[25-Jul-2007 05:27:27] <iscream> how do u mean ping delay?
[25-Jul-2007 05:27:56] <Darkfang> I mean round trip time
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:09] <Darkfang> if you usually have a 200ms ping
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:17] <Darkfang> 220 ms is not a big deal
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:22] <iscream> i see
[25-Jul-2007 05:28:26] <Darkfang> if you usually have 0.5 ms, 220 is ^^
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[25-Jul-2007 05:29:08] <Darkfang> could be done using derivate datapoint?
[25-Jul-2007 05:30:06] <iscream> donno :S
[25-Jul-2007 05:30:13] <Darkfang> is it possible to acces previous values in a threshold?
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[25-Jul-2007 06:41:45] <inktechsupport> hi
[25-Jul-2007 06:43:18] <inktechsupport> on a device's zProperties I set the zWinEventlog to True and it started successfully pulling in all the event log information from the server
[25-Jul-2007 06:43:42] <inktechsupport> however, I decided I didn't want so much, so tried setting the EventLogMinSeverity to 1
[25-Jul-2007 06:44:03] <inktechsupport> but it made no difference, events with severity 3 and even 4 still keep coming in
[25-Jul-2007 06:44:28] <inktechsupport> so I tried setting the zWinEventLog to false to stop them altogether, but they still keep coming
[25-Jul-2007 06:44:39] <inktechsupport> how do I make them stop? :-)
[25-Jul-2007 06:47:56] <Merciless> at a guess
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:00] <Merciless> 3 and 4 is higher than 1
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:05] <Merciless> thus min 1 means anything over 1
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:10] <Merciless> i.e 3 and 4
[25-Jul-2007 06:48:45] <Merciless> what type of server, and what type of events?
[25-Jul-2007 06:49:01] <Merciless> WinEventLog might only cover WMI events...
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[25-Jul-2007 07:02:35] <inktechsupport> 1 is the highest priority, it says so in the documentation
[25-Jul-2007 07:03:23] <inktechsupport> just found the "Push Changes" option in the Manage menu, going to see if that makes a difference
[25-Jul-2007 07:10:26] <Merciless> any luck?
[25-Jul-2007 07:10:55] <inktechsupport> nope, with zWinEventLog set to false, it is still pulling in the event log
[25-Jul-2007 07:11:14] <inktechsupport> it didn't pull the event log in before I set it to true
[25-Jul-2007 07:16:04] <inktechsupport> am I missing something?
[25-Jul-2007 07:17:12] <Merciless> what events exactly are the ones been pulled through
[25-Jul-2007 07:17:43] <inktechsupport> any errors that turn up in the windows event log on the server being monitored
[25-Jul-2007 07:18:34] <iscream> Zwinevent must be false
[25-Jul-2007 07:18:36] <iscream> i think
[25-Jul-2007 07:19:34] <inktechsupport> yes, that's what I'm saying, with zWinEventlog set to false, it is still pulling the event log in
[25-Jul-2007 07:20:11] <inktechsupport> is this a bug or am I missing an option somewhere?
[25-Jul-2007 07:20:28] <iscream> r u using 2.0.3?
[25-Jul-2007 07:20:58] <inktechsupport> no, I tried 2.0.3, but it couldn't monitor anything, so downgraded back to 2.0.2 which works
[25-Jul-2007 07:21:04] <iscream> yes
[25-Jul-2007 07:21:09] <iscream> 2.0.3 is still too buggy
[25-Jul-2007 07:25:46] <inktechsupport> has anyone else ever tried to turn off the win event log? all I can find from google searches are people who can't get it to start pulling in the log, and I have the opposite problem :-)
[25-Jul-2007 07:25:48] <iscream> Merciless : i need your opinion
[25-Jul-2007 07:26:44] <Merciless> what on? =)
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:00] <iscream> Merciless : i tried to snmpwalk in a command line some of the devices which i added to zenoss, but which are /discovered, it says timeout..no response...but in the zenoss i have the info from the oid
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:01] <iscream> for example
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:14] <iscream> i wanted to snmpwalk the device with sysuptime oid
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:21] <iscream> in the commandline timeout
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:39] <iscream> but in the devices page in zenoss there it is , the sysuptime in hour,minute, etc
[25-Jul-2007 07:28:41] <Merciless> can you ping the device from the command line?
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> PING 196.168.0.128 (196.168.0.128) 56(84) bytes of data.
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.9: icmp_seq=0 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 192.168.0.5)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=1 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:20] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=4 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:22] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=5 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:24] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=7 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:26] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=10 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:28] <iscream> From 192.168.0.5: icmp_seq=16 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 213.163.42.221)
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:30] <iscream> lol
[25-Jul-2007 07:29:32] <iscream> thats why
[25-Jul-2007 07:31:54] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 07:31:55] <iscream> strange, cause this .128 device autodiscovered the zenoss
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:04] <Merciless> it is strange yes
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:05] <Merciless> but there u go
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:08] <Merciless> u have an answer
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:10] <Merciless> congrats
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:10] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:13] <iscream> pff
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:17] <iscream> but no solution
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:25] <iscream> how is it in the zenoss i can ping it
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:31] <iscream> in the zenoss linux not
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:32] <iscream>
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:32] <Merciless> do a ping in zenoss webgui
[25-Jul-2007 07:32:34] <Merciless> and paste the output
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> ping -c2 192.168.0.128
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> PING 192.168.0.128 (192.168.0.128) 56(84) bytes of data.
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.128: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=987 ms
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.128: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=2.97 ms
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> --- 192.168.0.128 ping statistics ---
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:12] <iscream> 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1010ms
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:14] <iscream> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.971/495.214/987.458/492.244 ms, pipe 2
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:16] <iscream> DONE in 1 seconds on 1 targets
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:18] <iscream>
[25-Jul-2007 07:33:48] <iscream> how about that?
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:21] <Merciless> how strange
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:42] <Merciless> try restarting ur zenoss box
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:46] <iscream> just for me, just now , just to stick with this problem:)
[25-Jul-2007 07:34:53] <iscream> i restarted 3times today:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:27] <Merciless> well once more cant hurt
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:29] <Merciless> lool
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:43] <iscream> i have still the WMI com error...but its the smaller problem
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:55] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 07:35:59] <Merciless> 2.0.3 or 2
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:13] <iscream> i want to get out info-s from different mibs, for example printer mib, etc
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:15] <iscream> still 2.0.0
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:21] <iscream> 2.0.3 is buggy
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:23] <iscream> i tried
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:39] <Merciless> do you mean you want information from windows about the print
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:41] <Merciless> *printer
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:43] <iscream> 2.0.3 needs to be unbugged:D
[25-Jul-2007 07:36:45] <Merciless> or infomration about the printer from th eprinter
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:04] <iscream> information from the printserver
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:10] <iscream> its added as a device too
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:17] <Merciless> right
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:18] <iscream> or monitoring net traffic
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:44] <iscream> or get an alarm if the printer is out of paper;)
[25-Jul-2007 07:37:55] <iscream> naaa, the last one is just for joke
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:05] <Merciless> lol
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:09] <Merciless> you can get that
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:16] <iscream> really?:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:38:59] <Merciless> I think so ye
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:17] <iscream> actually i want to make a new "page" after i made a new class(other), subclass(panel), and from it new datasource, and i want to appear on the man page
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:18] <iscream> ohh
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:21] <inktechsupport> I'm trying to stop mine from alerting me when the document failed to print :-P
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:21] <iscream> your my man
[25-Jul-2007 07:39:38] <iscream> tell mee please how could i do it:D
[25-Jul-2007 07:40:25] <iscream> Merciless: dont mind really tha last sentence, it came just from my happiness, that i can do it maybe:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:41:52] <Merciless> wow you fkin confused me
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:06] <iscream> never mind:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:06] <iscream> so
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:10] <iscream> how can i do it
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:21] <iscream> when i cannot ping it from the commadn line?:P
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:27] <iscream> but in the zenoss i can ping it
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:48] <iscream> inktechsupport : how did you do it? the out of paper alarm?
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:50] <Merciless> i have absoltuely no idea
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:53] <Merciless> i'll just blame a bug
[25-Jul-2007 07:43:55] <Merciless> as its easier that way
[25-Jul-2007 07:44:03] <iscream> yes, easy to say
[25-Jul-2007 07:44:48] <inktechsupport> I don't get "out of paper" alarms :-) just "document failed to print" alarms from the windows print server, because they are logged in the event log, which is being pulled in by zenoss
[25-Jul-2007 07:44:49] <iscream> its a HP laserjet 4400 printserver
[25-Jul-2007 07:45:21] <iscream> ok
[25-Jul-2007 07:45:43] <iscream> so r u pulling in logs from the printserver?
[25-Jul-2007 07:45:56] <iscream> and in the logs are the document failed to print things?
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:05] <inktechsupport> yep
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:29] <inktechsupport> but I've had enough of them, I want them to stop :-)
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:37] <iscream> so if i would do that too, i go to device an zproperties and zwineventlog turn to true?:D
[25-Jul-2007 07:46:56] <inktechsupport> yep, you also have to specify a windows username and password
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:25] <iscream> and you took in the printer/laserjet class?
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:28] <iscream> the printserver
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:36] <inktechsupport> no
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:50] <iscream> so wich class is in it?
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:52] <inktechsupport> the print server is in the server/windows class, because it is a windows server
[25-Jul-2007 07:47:54] <iscream> h
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:00] <iscream> aaa
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:09] <iscream> i will have with it the same wmi comm error:S
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:24] <iscream> i wrote in the zwinuser : .\admin
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:32] <iscream> and has no pass, so empty zwinpass
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:32] <inktechsupport> you need to have SNMP Informant installed, if not already
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:39] <iscream> i have
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:48] <inktechsupport> (on the print server)
[25-Jul-2007 07:48:54] <iscream> i know, i have
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:04] <iscream> to other server/windows device
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:08] <iscream> every time VMI comm error
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:26] <iscream> first it was wmi connection,cannot connect
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:28] <inktechsupport> I only get those when the username/password is incorrect
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:39] <inktechsupport> maybe you need to have a password
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:42] <iscream> i wrote in the zwinuser and now wmi comm
[25-Jul-2007 07:49:57] <iscream> but i wrote in the admin user
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:03] <iscream> and leave blank the pass
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:12] <inktechsupport> you could try creating a user that has a password, and put that and see if it can connect then
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:33] <iscream> with it i managed once to work properly but i reinstalled the zenoss, from now on it is the problem
[25-Jul-2007 07:50:36] <inktechsupport> maybe it has to send a password and it can't connect because there is no password
[25-Jul-2007 07:51:09] <iscream> but once it was ok with this setup (i think)
[25-Jul-2007 07:51:18] <iscream> i hope cluther comes, he helped me last time
[25-Jul-2007 07:51:22] <iscream> and after that it was ok
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:03] <iscream> i can make on the windows box new users, but i know it works with the user that has admin privileges
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:31] <inktechsupport> hmm, I have discovered that the wmi changes only seem to be applied after you restart the zenoss service
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:44] <iscream> yeah
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:46] <inktechsupport> so I have finally stopped my event logs
[25-Jul-2007 07:52:55] <iscream> the zenwin and zenmodeller must be restarted
[25-Jul-2007 07:53:11] <iscream> it was, but the situation hasnt changed
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:09] <Darkfang> grrr
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:26] <Darkfang> i still have my zenmodeler error
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> ERROR:zen.ApplyDataMap:plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device WebServ
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> Traceback (most recent call last):
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:28] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:29] <Darkfang> changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:31] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:33] <Darkfang> changed = self._createRelObject(device, objmap, rname)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:37] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 306, in _createRelObject
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:39] <Darkfang> "adding object %s to relationship %s" % (
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:41] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 45, in logChange
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:43] <Darkfang> self.logEvent(device, compname, eventClass, msg, Event.Info)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:45] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 74, in logEvent
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:47] <Darkfang> self.datacollector.dmd.ZenEventManager.sendEvent(eventDict)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:49] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/MySqlSendEvent.py", line 64, in sendEvent
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:51] <Darkfang> event = self.applyEventContext(event)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:53] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/MySqlSendEvent.py", line 169, in applyEventContext
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:55] <Darkfang> evtclass = events.lookup(evt, device)
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:57] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/EventClass.py", line 157, in lookup
[25-Jul-2007 07:54:59] <Darkfang> return self.getDmdRoot("Events").getOrganizer(evt.eventClass)
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:01] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Organizer.py", line 182, in getOrganizer
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:03] <Darkfang> return self.getDmdRoot(self.dmdRootName).getObjByPath(path)
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:07] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZenModelBase.py", line 290, in getObjByPath
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:09] <Darkfang> return getObjByPath(self, path)
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:11] <Darkfang> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Utils.py", line 206, in getObjByPath
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:13] <Darkfang> raise NotFound, name
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:15] <Darkfang> NotFound: Change
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:17] <Darkfang> it has problem only with on device
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:31] <iscream> maybe a corrupted cache?
[25-Jul-2007 07:55:46] <inktechsupport> DarkFang, are you running 2.0.3? I got that with 2.0.3 but it went away when I downgraded to 2.0.2 (but I was having it for every device)
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:04] <Darkfang> in fact i had a similar problem with 2.0.0
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:05] <iscream> look it in the $ZENHOME/var/
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:10] <iscream> if ther is any .zec
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:10] <Darkfang> i just upgraded to 2.0.3
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:14] <iscream> remove it
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:18] <Darkfang> and now i have it on every device
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:28] <Darkfang> ok
[25-Jul-2007 07:56:56] <inktechsupport> 2.0.3 seems to be causing a few people some problems
[25-Jul-2007 07:57:00] <Darkfang> not working
[25-Jul-2007 07:57:18] <Darkfang> i'll try 2.0.2 then
[25-Jul-2007 08:00:11] <iscream> 2.0.3 collects now tickets...:P
[25-Jul-2007 08:00:25] <Darkfang> ?
[25-Jul-2007 08:00:27] <inktechsupport> collects now tickets?
[25-Jul-2007 08:01:05] <iscream> bugs
[25-Jul-2007 08:01:33] <iscream> it isnt working properly
[25-Jul-2007 08:02:59] <inktechsupport> yeah, I'm going to test 2.0.4 (if/when it comes out) on a test machine before I upgrade
[25-Jul-2007 08:05:52] <iscream> jp10558 : havent u got any idea for my WMI comm error either?
[25-Jul-2007 08:08:49] <inktechsupport> iscream, I've seen a few articles on testing WMI connectivity using windows tools, have you tried anything like that?
[25-Jul-2007 08:14:18] <iscream> inktechsupport : yes i tried it, and from a different pc, i tried to connect to the windows pc with wbemtest with the adminuser/empty user/pass and acccess denied was there too
[25-Jul-2007 08:15:23] <iscream> i go on the windows target pc to the users, there is the username below it the admin role, so it must be the right username
[25-Jul-2007 08:15:42] <inktechsupport> then your problem is with wmi and not zenoss, if other computers also get access denied
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:10] <iscream> yeah ,every time i take some device in server/windows
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:12] <iscream> wmi com error
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:37] <inktechsupport> do these servers have wmi installed (silly question but I have to ask ;-))
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:46] <iscream> yep
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:49] <iscream> if i wbemtest
[25-Jul-2007 08:16:54] <iscream> ON the target windows
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:05] <iscream> it let me in without any pass or user
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:15] <iscream> i havent got on it any firewalls
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:29] <iscream> i thought maybe the firewall, but i havent got any on it
[25-Jul-2007 08:17:40] <inktechsupport> ah, are you on a domain or just a workgroup?
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[25-Jul-2007 08:18:22] <iscream> workgroup, inside network at the company
[25-Jul-2007 08:18:39] <inktechsupport> then, from the remote pc, try to log on with the username: <computername>\admin
[25-Jul-2007 08:18:41] <iscream> but its appearing not just at one PC...
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:02] <iscream> how do you mean it? sry, my english is terrible
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:06] <inktechsupport> where computername is the target computer
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:40] <iscream> simply i just type in a browser or something?
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:44] <iscream> or
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:44] <iscream> ooo
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:47] <inktechsupport> in wbemtest
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:48] <iscream> connect with remote
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:51] <iscream> yeah
[25-Jul-2007 08:19:51] <iscream> ok
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:41] <iscream> in the namespace must be i think : \\computernameorIP\root\cimv2
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:42] <iscream> right?
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:53] <inktechsupport> don't type the < > symbols though
[25-Jul-2007 08:20:56] <inktechsupport> possibly
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:02] <iscream> yeah i got it
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:03] <iscream> but
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:04] <inktechsupport> I have not used wbemtest in a while
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:06] <iscream> in the username
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:11] <iscream> i write in the adminuser
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:19] <iscream> leave blank the pass field
[25-Jul-2007 08:21:23] <iscream> and acces denied
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:09] <inktechsupport> in the username make sure it says targetcomputername\adminuser, leave the password field blank and try it
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:22] <inktechsupport> sorry it's / not \
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:27] <inktechsupport> I think
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:31] <inktechsupport> try both :-)
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:42] <iscream> namespace (E-mail cÃme nincs megerõsÃtve) üzenete:
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:42] <iscream> nem vágom mit beszélsz.
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:44] <iscream> no
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:47] <iscream> not this:P
[25-Jul-2007 08:22:59] <iscream> in the namespace : \\computernameorIP\root\cimv2
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:05] <iscream> in the username : adminuse
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:07] <iscream> pass: empty?
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:26] <inktechsupport> in the username, put targetcomputername/adminuser
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:39] <inktechsupport> (with the correct target computer name of course)
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:50] <iscream> or ip
[25-Jul-2007 08:23:51] <iscream> i think:P
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[25-Jul-2007 08:24:52] <iscream> acces denied:S
[25-Jul-2007 08:25:30] <inktechsupport> hmm
[25-Jul-2007 08:26:42] <iscream> hmm
[25-Jul-2007 08:26:47] <iscream> maybe tomorrow cluther comes:P
[25-Jul-2007 08:26:59] <inktechsupport> on the target computer, go to Administration Tools - Computer Management
[25-Jul-2007 08:27:21] <inktechsupport> expand Services and Applications and right click WMI Control and select properties
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[25-Jul-2007 08:27:49] <inktechsupport> check the settings, particularly the security settings
[25-Jul-2007 08:27:51] <inktechsupport> :-)
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:25] <inktechsupport> I'm off to lunch
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:27] <iscream> login tab
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:34] <iscream> it says login as:
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:36] <iscream> local
[25-Jul-2007 08:28:58] <iscream> and i take a tick on the service can cooparate with the Desktop
[25-Jul-2007 08:29:02] <iscream> maybe it would be ok
[25-Jul-2007 08:29:04] <iscream> i hope
[25-Jul-2007 08:29:54] <iscream> guten apetite:D
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[25-Jul-2007 08:30:08] <iscream> still acces denied,so fk the wmi:D
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[25-Jul-2007 08:41:11] <Darkfang> ggrrrr
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:16] <Darkfang> i get back to 2.0.2
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:31] <Darkfang> and i still have a modeling bug on one device
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:40] <iscream> ehh
[25-Jul-2007 08:41:46] <iscream> this zenoss is very strange:D
[25-Jul-2007 08:43:22] <Darkfang> the weird thing is the device has the exact same config as an other one (they are mirrored)
[25-Jul-2007 08:43:27] <Darkfang> and it's working on the other one...
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[25-Jul-2007 08:51:59] <Merciless> shame theres no working version of zenoss out there
[25-Jul-2007 08:52:02] <Merciless>
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[25-Jul-2007 08:56:02] <Darkfang> find out what it was
[25-Jul-2007 08:56:19] <Darkfang> the netmask was 10.10.10.0 ?O
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:09] <jp10558> mmm What's really weird is that it seems really OS dependant
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:24] <jp10558> or something, as I've had little to no problems with 2.x on EL4
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:39] <jp10558> and only some python problems with 1.x
[25-Jul-2007 08:59:49] <jp10558> once those were fixed, they've been rock solid in my testing
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[25-Jul-2007 09:13:44] <iscream> Merciless : there are...
[25-Jul-2007 09:13:49] <iscream> ...very hidden:P
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[25-Jul-2007 09:39:12] <Merciless> rofl iscream
[25-Jul-2007 09:39:13] <Merciless>
[25-Jul-2007 09:40:27] <iscream> i cannot believe it that im so noob...im tryin' 2 work with zenoss for 2weeks and somekind of WMI error is give me the REAL DEAL...on the negative meaning...boahh...im mad
[25-Jul-2007 09:42:00] <jp10558> iscream: are you sure you're using a valid account for the machine you want to do WMI mointoring on/
[25-Jul-2007 09:42:01] <jp10558> ?
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[25-Jul-2007 09:51:21] <iscream> yeah, i went to the control panel and there the users there was the administrator with the username which i use, and the other was guest username
[25-Jul-2007 09:51:38] <iscream> where else can i check my administrator?
[25-Jul-2007 09:55:43] <iscream> i must go now
[25-Jul-2007 09:55:45] <iscream> see ya tomorrow
[25-Jul-2007 09:55:45] <iscream> bye
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[25-Jul-2007 11:03:59] <zpertee> how much work is it to get zenoss up and running?
[25-Jul-2007 11:05:34] <jp10558> Depends
[25-Jul-2007 11:05:45] <jp10558> I found that once you know the pitfalls it's not too hard
[25-Jul-2007 11:06:14] <jp10558> I think I got ZenOSS up and running with v2.0.3 in about 25 minutes... not including download times of the stuff
[25-Jul-2007 11:06:27] <jp10558> I can help if you use EL4 derivates for the OS
[25-Jul-2007 11:07:04] <zpertee> jp10558, ok thanks
[25-Jul-2007 11:07:40] <zpertee> jp10558, how good do your linux skills have to be to get it installed?
[25-Jul-2007 11:09:02] <Merciless> using the vmware appliance none
[25-Jul-2007 11:10:00] <zpertee> Merciless, do I have to use vmware?
[25-Jul-2007 11:13:13] <Merciless> would help =)
[25-Jul-2007 11:14:35] <zpertee> Merciless, true
[25-Jul-2007 11:15:37] <Merciless> lol
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[25-Jul-2007 11:18:21] <jp10558> mmm
[25-Jul-2007 11:18:24] <jp10558> well, it depends
[25-Jul-2007 11:18:57] <jp10558> if everything works like it should, and you're not using NFS mounted home directories (IE, you have a stand alone linux server) and run as root, it's not too difficult on an EL4 machine
[25-Jul-2007 11:19:12] <inktechsupport> jp, he's gone :-)
[25-Jul-2007 11:21:31] <jp10558> oh
[25-Jul-2007 11:21:33] <jp10558> too slow then
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[25-Jul-2007 11:40:08] <zpertee> where can I find zenpacks?
[25-Jul-2007 11:44:12] <solarce> at zenpackmart
[25-Jul-2007 11:44:20] <solarce> shop smart, shop zenpackmart!
[25-Jul-2007 11:46:12] <jp10558> Not sure
[25-Jul-2007 11:46:21] <jp10558> they are supposed to be building a community site for zenpacks?
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[25-Jul-2007 12:22:48] <Feclar> Hi hopeing someone can give me a hand, installed zenoss however can not seem to get it to monitor any hosts, have tried subnet discovery (zendisc -net x.x.x.x) with no luck as well as manual addition of windows host with snmp community
[25-Jul-2007 12:24:44] <Feclar> the zenoss box can icmp ping multiple hosts from a shell so not sure why zenoss is not able to monitor any of them
[25-Jul-2007 12:28:36] <Feclar> centos5... poking around on the forums see someone mention issues with python and centoss5
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[25-Jul-2007 13:33:29] <jp10558> Feclar: I may have been the mentioning one
[25-Jul-2007 13:33:49] <jp10558> I apparently was wrong, CENTOS5 uses 2.4 not 2.5 of python like I thought, so that shouldn't be the problem
[25-Jul-2007 13:34:07] <jp10558> What windows version are you trying to monitor?
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[25-Jul-2007 14:33:31] <soloman> Hi! what is the maximum possible length of SNMP MIB? will it work: 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.100.2.1.1 ?
[25-Jul-2007 14:33:36] <soloman> in zenoss
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[25-Jul-2007 14:43:51] <pablo2> hi all, i'm having issues trying to get zenoss to work i choose a network 192.168.0.0 and tell the system to scan it and i always get 0 results
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[25-Jul-2007 15:00:29] <progma> anyone here have zenoss running in rhel4
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[25-Jul-2007 15:26:53] <Feclar> jp10558, I actually got the hosts to show up if I add them 1by1
[25-Jul-2007 15:27:15] <Feclar> Just keep getting 0 results when I try network discovery
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[25-Jul-2007 15:29:16] <Rumpkie> knock knock anybody home?
[25-Jul-2007 15:38:31] <jp10558> You might want to look at the forum. There was a bug with zendisc a few days ago
[25-Jul-2007 15:39:26] <jp10558> See: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9062#9062
[25-Jul-2007 15:39:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - zendisc in 2.0.3 not working (at community.zenoss.com)
[25-Jul-2007 15:41:36] <pablo2> mmm i just wrote on that post that mine also didn-'t work
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[25-Jul-2007 15:41:56] <pablo2> i have the latest version installed, can i use an older version of zendisc?
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[25-Jul-2007 16:12:34] <pablo2> can i just change the zendisc to the 2.0.0 version?
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[25-Jul-2007 16:21:05] <jp10558> I don't think so, but I really don't know
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[25-Jul-2007 16:25:44] <pablo2> i'll try anyway
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[25-Jul-2007 17:02:31] <jrohw> has anyone used the check_log nagios plugin that ships with zen?
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[25-Jul-2007 17:51:45] <killing-joke> new install works nicely. thx for the cool code. my question is ...
[25-Jul-2007 17:52:05] <killing-joke> can i team them up in master/slave/slave/slave/... combinations?
[25-Jul-2007 17:52:33] <killing-joke> can i propagate my events up a hierarchy of nodes?
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[26-Jul-2007 03:34:40] <GutterPunk> Hi, I'm running ZenOss on a Centos 5 installation. I'm trying to use the device discovery feature (nothing more than a ping sweep apparetly) but it doesn't appear to work. It finds 0 active ip's. Anyone else have this problem?
[26-Jul-2007 03:53:22] <Merciless> try pinging the server from the centoss command line
[26-Jul-2007 03:59:13] <GutterPunk> Merciless, that works
[26-Jul-2007 04:01:30] <GutterPunk> Hmm running the command manually (which I know I should have done earlier) shows "raise SystemExit(("network ... not found in dmd))"
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[26-Jul-2007 04:31:42] <CloD0> hi
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[26-Jul-2007 06:17:19] <iscream> wow
[26-Jul-2007 06:17:23] <iscream> what a stagnation:P
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[26-Jul-2007 06:42:35] <backblue> hi
[26-Jul-2007 06:43:32] <backblue> Can zenoss replace cacti? Can i make any kind of templates for zenoss? Zenoss would be good for me, because it as more things i need, but i need cacti too, and i dont want to have 2 tools!
[26-Jul-2007 06:44:47] <GutterPunk> backblue, I'm new to zenoss as well, but at first sight it doesn't appear to have the same control over how you can view the graphs. In cacti I can put all required graphs together for a quick overview
[26-Jul-2007 06:45:37] <backblue> hum...
[26-Jul-2007 06:46:26] <backblue> i'm downloading the VMware image
[26-Jul-2007 06:47:05] <backblue> i need to try it, but if does not replace cacti for me, i will mostly leave this, for another time, because now i only need the graphs stuff
[26-Jul-2007 06:47:23] <backblue> and cacti will probably be more easy to configure
[26-Jul-2007 06:48:22] <GutterPunk> backblue, then you'll stick with cacti.
[26-Jul-2007 06:50:40] <GutterPunk> Configuration is just as easy on ZenOss though, just add the address of the snmpd and it's all swell
[26-Jul-2007 06:51:31] <backblue> well, my problem it's, i never messed with snmpd
[26-Jul-2007 06:51:40] <backblue> i think that will be my problem on cacti
[26-Jul-2007 06:52:18] <GutterPunk> backblue, I use snmp on cacti too... It's probably the best way of collecting needed info
[26-Jul-2007 06:53:19] <backblue> yes, i use snmp, but never configured any snmpd
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[26-Jul-2007 08:13:15] <iscream> anybody here?:D
[26-Jul-2007 08:19:55] <iscream> Bulwinkle : are you home in Zenoss?
[26-Jul-2007 08:20:25] <Bulwinkle> i'm here
[26-Jul-2007 08:21:01] <iscream> can u help me with monitoring UPS or Printers?
[26-Jul-2007 08:21:39] <Bulwinkle> You're on your own there....
[26-Jul-2007 08:22:02] <iscream> okay
[26-Jul-2007 08:22:46] <Bulwinkle> iscream: just do snmpwalk on the devices for the oids you want to monitor and create templates for the counters.
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[26-Jul-2007 08:27:52] <iscream> i snmpwalked the device which i added before to zenoss, and it goest TimeOut:no snmp response...how is that?
[26-Jul-2007 08:28:38] <iscream> or how do i know which oid tells me the printers pagecount (for out of page alarm),or ink (out of ink alarm)
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[26-Jul-2007 08:39:40] <Bulwinkle> iscream: not everything for zenoss is out of the box... you're going to have to figure things out for yourself.
[26-Jul-2007 08:43:53] <iscream> its ok, i just asked if someone made it before, and can tell me, thats all
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[26-Jul-2007 10:10:25] <CloD0> iscream, finally found how to get partition name
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[26-Jul-2007 10:22:22] <iscream> nice:D
[26-Jul-2007 10:22:23] <iscream> grat:P
[26-Jul-2007 10:22:29] <iscream> write in the solution in the forum
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[26-Jul-2007 10:29:02] <CloD0> in fact i managed to get the zenoss id of the partition
[26-Jul-2007 10:29:08] <CloD0> so using a small sed script
[26-Jul-2007 10:29:18] <CloD0> you can have your partition name again
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[26-Jul-2007 10:45:57] <iscream> nnice:D
[26-Jul-2007 10:47:23] <CloD0> partname=`echo /${here/id} | sed -e 'sp^/-p/p' -e 's-^/Volumes_-/Volumes/-'`
[26-Jul-2007 10:47:45] <CloD0> it bugs if you have more than 1 partition with the same name
[26-Jul-2007 10:55:47] <maj> for some reason i get an event from /status/ping that the machine is up and its a critical error, and then it clears it by saying that its up again and. Only happens to one windows2k3 server
[26-Jul-2007 10:56:01] <maj> any idea whats going on?
[26-Jul-2007 10:58:14] <progma> when first installing zenoss, i get access denied for adding a mysql user - what is the default that is used, or where can i change it?
[26-Jul-2007 10:59:18] <maj> for events?
[26-Jul-2007 10:59:26] <iscream> mysql -uroot -psqlpass
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[26-Jul-2007 11:00:03] <iscream> psqlpass is ofcourse your password
[26-Jul-2007 11:01:04] <progma> iscream: yes but when i first install the rpm in redhat, then run the init script, it does a first-boot initialization where it creates the db and kicks off all the daemons
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[26-Jul-2007 11:09:31] <soloman> hi! does anybody know of this zenoss error? 2007-07-26 18:58:35 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: exceptions.TypeError: float argument required
[26-Jul-2007 11:09:31] <maj> so why does severity change for the same message from 0 to 5
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[26-Jul-2007 11:27:59] <Oliverm> lo
[26-Jul-2007 11:28:08] <Oliverm> anyone alive to answer a question about zenoss ?
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[26-Jul-2007 11:43:37] <GutterPunk> Has anyone in here installed ZenOss on Debian?
[26-Jul-2007 11:47:11] <progma> http://pastebin.ca/634644 <-- attempt on redhat el
[26-Jul-2007 11:47:11] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 634644 (at pastebin.ca)
[26-Jul-2007 11:57:21] <progma> oic, i need the mysql root password blank
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[26-Jul-2007 11:58:57] <progma> also it blows away my existing snmp conf...
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[26-Jul-2007 12:02:31] <CloD0> you can try but i also have a lot of question ^^
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[26-Jul-2007 12:08:21] <progma> ok i've got it working
[26-Jul-2007 12:08:27] <progma> how to do auto-discovery?
[26-Jul-2007 12:12:09] <progma> nm let me just read the docs/faq first
[26-Jul-2007 12:22:19] <progma> wow it is putting my syslog-ng stuff into events
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[26-Jul-2007 12:24:50] <progma> GutterPunk: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/installing-zenoss-on-debian-sarge/ hth
[26-Jul-2007 12:24:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[26-Jul-2007 12:24:58] * DaveToo wonders when 2.0.4 will be out
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:30] <solarce> when the timer goes off
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:33] <solarce> *ding* done
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:41] <DaveToo>
[26-Jul-2007 12:25:41] <junix|work> is anyone familiar with otrs2?? i am geting an error when trying to access it
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[26-Jul-2007 13:29:14] <maj> for some reason i get an event from /status/ping that the machine is up and its a critical error, and then it clears it by saying that its up again and. Only happens to one windows2k3 server. So why so does severity change for the same message from 0 to 5?
[26-Jul-2007 13:33:11] <jp10558> Do you have any device specific alert message?
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[26-Jul-2007 14:01:57] <progma> how do i get performance data collection started
[26-Jul-2007 14:02:18] <progma> it says in the faq to restart the perf collectors daemon via the about link in the gui interface
[26-Jul-2007 14:07:50] <jp10558> anyone here having issues with WMI in 2.0.3?
[26-Jul-2007 14:09:21] <jp10558> I'm getting ZenWin log entries when a windows service goes down
[26-Jul-2007 14:09:36] <jp10558> but it's not propogating up to events, alerts, or even a change on the dashboard
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[26-Jul-2007 14:24:19] <pileofparts> Hey so does anybody know when a fix is going to come out for zendisc? I have pulled the latest from SVN, tried on etch and ubuntu LTS and all had the same issues.
[26-Jul-2007 14:24:29] <progma> nm, restarted zenperfsnmp and i have nice graphs now
[26-Jul-2007 14:25:05] <progma> pileofparts: i just did my first install on rhel4 and had to run zendisc manually - what kind of issues out of curiousity
[26-Jul-2007 14:26:38] <pileofparts> Basically no matter what, it finds 0 devices.
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> zenoss@zenoss:/usr/local/zenoss/bin$ ./zendisc run --net=172.16.0.0
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '172.16.0.0'
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:starting ping cycle Thu Jul 26 13:27:12 2007
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:ping cycle complete Thu Jul 26 13:27:14 2007
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:25] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.50 seconds
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:26] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:53] <jp10558> I'm having an issue with zenactions:
[26-Jul-2007 14:27:54] <jp10558> ProgrammingError: (1146, "Table 'mysql.proc' doesn't exist")
[26-Jul-2007 14:28:55] <pileofparts> and one other major issue that I have ran into is that dmd/Networks I can't add a CIDR style address. It will only accept an ip/network address. This is a pretty serious issue for us as we would prefer not to scan our neighbors...
[26-Jul-2007 14:31:18] <soloman> hi! does anybody know of this zenoss error? 2007-07-26 18:58:35 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: exceptions.TypeError: float argument required
[26-Jul-2007 14:31:57] <maj> jp10558, what do you mean device specific alert message
[26-Jul-2007 14:32:14] <maj> it is device specific
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:03] <jp10558> I mean, you can edit what message an alert sends
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:11] <jp10558> so I was wondering (not sure if this is possible)
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:21] <jp10558> if you have a "local" message for that device or some such
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:27] <jp10558> kind of like zProperties
[26-Jul-2007 14:33:40] <jp10558> I haven't had a chance to fully look at that yet
[26-Jul-2007 14:34:16] <maj> well, i could set the severity value for such messages to 0
[26-Jul-2007 14:34:30] <maj> but i am getting 2 identical messages have different severity values
[26-Jul-2007 14:36:12] <jp10558> mmm. IDK
[26-Jul-2007 14:36:46] <jp10558> I've had some odd issues go away by restarting zenoss
[26-Jul-2007 14:36:56] <jp10558> otherwise, maybe the mailing list
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:05] <maj> tried that
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:12] <maj> restart that is
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:17] <maj> and got it posted in the forum too
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:33] <maj> we'll see maybe somebody cant hint there
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:34] <pileofparts> and the other weirdness about the zendisc is that it prints out the debug messages like so:
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:Sent 10 packets
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:morepkts=True jobqueue=0
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:incount=0 outcount=0
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:35] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Ping:Sent 20 packets
[26-Jul-2007 14:37:44] <pileofparts> But in tcpdump I see no data going out.
[26-Jul-2007 14:42:54] <progma> pileofparts: you're using tcpdump -i <interface> icmp ?
[26-Jul-2007 14:43:10] <pileofparts> tcpdump -i eth1 -lnnnqttt not port 22 and not vrrp and not port 8080
[26-Jul-2007 14:43:34] <progma> just do "tcpdump -i eth1 icmp"
[26-Jul-2007 14:43:49] <pileofparts> Ok, I just used that to make sure that I captured everything even snnp.
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:18] <pileofparts> zenoss:~# tcpdump -i eth0 icmp
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:18] <pileofparts> tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:18] <pileofparts> listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:20] <pileofparts> Nadda
[26-Jul-2007 14:44:42] <pileofparts> My only guess is that it has something to do with zensocket but it is setuid etc...
[26-Jul-2007 14:45:00] <pileofparts> -rwsr-x--- 1 root zenoss 20865 2007-07-25 21:13 zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 14:46:49] <pileofparts> Has anybody else had issues adding networks via the webui and getting the error 'The id "<network>/<cidr>" contains characters illegal in URLs'?
[26-Jul-2007 14:57:03] <progma> pileofparts: did you leave the tcpdump open for a minute or so
[26-Jul-2007 14:57:14] <pileofparts> It is still open.
[26-Jul-2007 14:57:36] <progma> ah
[26-Jul-2007 14:58:29] <pileofparts> ran zendisc about 4 times with the window still open. Checked on the other interface just to make sure.
[26-Jul-2007 14:58:46] <pileofparts> But definitely nothing going in or out from zenoss.
[26-Jul-2007 14:59:58] <pileofparts> I had this working on 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 but 2.0.2, 2.03, and 6018 from svn have all been broken.
[26-Jul-2007 15:00:23] <pileofparts> And there are some other serious bugs that I have run into on the previous releases.
[26-Jul-2007 15:01:34] <pileofparts> I am a perl/ruby guy so the python stuff is a little different from what I am used to.
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[26-Jul-2007 15:38:08] <davetoo> hmm
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[26-Jul-2007 15:45:11] <kippi> hey
[26-Jul-2007 15:45:30] <kippi> what program do people use on there windows servers to get the snmp ?
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:05] <pileofparts> Informant
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:44] <pileofparts> kippi: here is a link http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:44] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[26-Jul-2007 15:51:44] <dfp> Snow - Informer
[26-Jul-2007 15:53:33] <kippi> ah cool
[26-Jul-2007 15:57:28] <davetoo> So this is kind of a bummer: if you add a "device" with discoveryProtocol="none", you don't get an IP Address in the Network organizer.
[26-Jul-2007 15:58:02] <davetoo> But if zendisc ping-scanned that network and didn't find SNMP, you still get the IP in the Network.
[26-Jul-2007 15:58:21] <maj> for some reason i get an event from /status/ping that the machine is up and its a critical error, and then it clears it by saying that its up again and. Only happens to one windows2k3 server. So why so does severity change for the same message from 0 to 5?
[26-Jul-2007 15:58:46] <davetoo> Makes it impossible to find all systems on a subnet if they didn't respond to SNMP Interface-MIB probes.
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[26-Jul-2007 16:30:34] <pileofparts> So I may have found the fix/issue for my zendisc woes.
[26-Jul-2007 16:31:08] <pileofparts> snmp was only listening on 127.0.0.1 on the zenoss host itself.
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[26-Jul-2007 16:32:34] <davetoo> hmm
[26-Jul-2007 16:32:59] <davetoo> and zendisc doesn't try the loopback?
[26-Jul-2007 16:37:34] <pileofparts> Nope.
[26-Jul-2007 16:38:25] <pileofparts> After changing default/snmpd so it listened on all interfaces it was able to first detect itself and then one other host on the network. But after that I get the same issue.
[26-Jul-2007 16:40:29] <davetoo> Are you just trying to run --routers or the whole shebang?
[26-Jul-2007 16:40:39] <pileofparts> The hole shebang.
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:12] <pileofparts> Still get this if I run it on a specific network...
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> zenoss@zenoss:/usr/local/zenoss/bin$ ./zendisc run --net=172.16.0.0
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '172.16.0.0'
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:starting ping cycle Thu Jul 26 15:40:48 2007
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:13] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:ping cycle complete Thu Jul 26 15:40:50 2007
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:15] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.50 seconds
[26-Jul-2007 16:41:17] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[26-Jul-2007 16:43:03] <davetoo> I'm not sure if this is a prerequisite, but does your local server have any routes under the OS tab?
[26-Jul-2007 16:45:52] <pileofparts> Yes, it does. it shows the locally connected subnets and it's default route.
[26-Jul-2007 16:46:24] <pileofparts> 0.0.0.0/0 172.16.0.1 (fw1) eth1 local indirect
[26-Jul-2007 16:46:24] <pileofparts> 10.255.0.0 0.0.0.0 (None) eth0 local direct
[26-Jul-2007 16:46:24] <pileofparts> 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.0 (None) eth1 local direct
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:18] <pileofparts> Just ran this...
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:18] <pileofparts> ./zensocket --ping -- /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python /usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/zendisc.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zendisc.conf
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:28] <pileofparts> and got a Error: must be root to send icmp.
[26-Jul-2007 16:47:47] <pileofparts> -rwsr-x--- 1 root zenoss 20865 2007-07-25 21:13 zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 16:48:01] <pileofparts> Can someone tell me what permissions they have on zensocket?
[26-Jul-2007 16:50:01] <monrad> chown root:zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 16:50:01] <monrad> chmod 04750 /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zensocket
[26-Jul-2007 16:50:11] <monrad> as root
[26-Jul-2007 16:51:06] <pileofparts> Thank you, that is the same.
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[26-Jul-2007 17:09:33] <davetoo> zensocket should be suid-root,
[26-Jul-2007 17:09:49] <davetoo> that should have worked, I would think...
[26-Jul-2007 17:10:51] <pileofparts> Yeah, I just pulled down 6021 I will see if anything has changed. I have been using zenoss for a little while now and I am pretty familiar with it. Found some bugs and ran into some issues that forced an upgrade and really it has just completely tanked for me.
[26-Jul-2007 17:12:11] <pileofparts> Great vision for the app but it has a ways to go as I have just encountered a mass of bugs. Outside of a vmplayer instance what is the most 2.0 build and what linux distro does it run best on?
[26-Jul-2007 17:13:24] <solarce> has anyone compared zenoss to groundwork?
[26-Jul-2007 17:16:35] <solarce> I guess network world did, and zenoss is ahead by a bit
[26-Jul-2007 17:17:25] <davetoo> pileofparts: I'm not running from SVN, just the released versions.
[26-Jul-2007 17:17:39] <pileofparts> davetoo: 2.0.3?
[26-Jul-2007 17:18:01] <davetoo> I'm still at 2.0.2; seems like there are a lot of complaints on the mailing list about 2.0.3
[26-Jul-2007 17:24:34] <pileofparts> davetoo: what distro are you running it on?
[26-Jul-2007 17:27:22] <davetoo> FC5 and RHEL4U4
[26-Jul-2007 17:27:48] <davetoo> RHEL4U4x64
[26-Jul-2007 17:28:19] <pileofparts> Frustrating. me and rpm based distros don't get along.
[26-Jul-2007 17:28:41] <davetoo> I prefer source tarball
[26-Jul-2007 17:28:41] <pileofparts> Guess I will give it a shot.
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[26-Jul-2007 17:30:33] <pileofparts> I haven't used RH since 7.3. Something about paying RH rubs me the wrong way.
[26-Jul-2007 17:33:29] <jrohw> we've got 2.0.3 up on RHEL4up5 as well ... from source as well.. different mysql
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:01] <jrohw> i'm more a debian fan myself, but RH is palatable once you add apt4rpm or yum
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:05] <jrohw> but yum is dog slow
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:16] <pileofparts> jrohw: Did you upgrade from a previous version or clean install of 2.0.3?
[26-Jul-2007 17:34:22] <jrohw> 2.0.2
[26-Jul-2007 17:35:04] <jrohw> i do see zenmodeler die from time to time.. but otherwise.. I haven't run into anything
[26-Jul-2007 17:35:11] <jrohw> but we don't have very much in ours yet
[26-Jul-2007 17:37:43] <jrohw> though, if we didn't run RH for everything else, I'd probably try to get it going on ubunut
[26-Jul-2007 17:37:47] <jrohw> er ubuntu
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[26-Jul-2007 17:39:25] <pileofparts> used 6021 and load went up to 20.00 and almost killed the box before I killed the process.
[26-Jul-2007 17:39:28] <pileofparts> I don't think that I can win here.
[26-Jul-2007 17:41:25] <pileofparts> If I wanted to gut all of the zenoss installed bits just clean out /usr/local/zennoss/* and drop the events database from mysql right?
[26-Jul-2007 17:41:57] <jrohw> i believe so
[26-Jul-2007 17:42:18] <jrohw> i've only been using it a couple weeks, after I got fed up with hyperic
[26-Jul-2007 17:44:26] <pileofparts> zenoss better than hyperic?
[26-Jul-2007 17:44:59] <solarce> pileofparts: reviews seem to think so
[26-Jul-2007 17:45:20] <solarce> hyperic loses on event actions, like restarting services, etc
[26-Jul-2007 17:45:28] <jrohw> for me it has been, so far.. zenoss is simpler.. I have to do more work to get my alerts into it, but it's been reliable in dealing with the alerts
[26-Jul-2007 17:45:36] <jrohw> hyperic kept giving me false positives
[26-Jul-2007 17:46:00] <jrohw> but if you're evaluating monitoring tools, I'd recommend giving it a try.. if nothing else than to compare
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[26-Jul-2007 18:13:42] <pileofparts> Ok, installed 2.0.2 again on debian etch x64 and it seems to be working.
[26-Jul-2007 18:14:41] <pileofparts> We will see if it errors out on the other networks.
[26-Jul-2007 18:36:18] <kippi> is there a howto on seting up snmp informant as i have configured snmp on my 2003 server and snmp informant seems to be runing, but zenoss won't pick it up
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[26-Jul-2007 18:38:54] <FEON> Does Zenoss support Ipv6?
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[26-Jul-2007 18:44:28] <pileofparts> kippi: I am not a windows guy perse but Make sure that you go into the service and verify it has the community string defined and that it is listening on the appropriate interface.
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[26-Jul-2007 18:51:30] <creiht> kippi: Make sure that the windows firewall or any other type of firewall is not running
[26-Jul-2007 18:52:00] <creiht> You also might need to add the zenoss server's ips to the list of ips that can hit snmp on the box through the snmp service properties
[26-Jul-2007 18:52:24] <creiht> FEON: As far as I know it does not support IPV6 yet, but there has been a lot of chatter about it
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[26-Jul-2007 18:59:18] <bfinney> I'm getting a large number of false negatives when monitoring processes with zenoss, any recommendations?
[26-Jul-2007 19:14:03] <FEON> creiht: has the chatter given any sign of what the roadmap might be.....
[26-Jul-2007 19:16:07] <FEON> Anyone have a URL for comparing Zenoos vs Nagios? Someone has gotten managements ear that Nagios is better... I'm trying to put together a - dont do that email thanks
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:14] <nassy> FEON: i don't know of any. maybe a google search. the mailing list seems to have a number of people who post about issues monitoring windows servers
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:25] <nassy> maybe nagios is better in that area
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:28] <nassy> dunno
[26-Jul-2007 19:19:34] <nassy> i don't know
[26-Jul-2007 19:21:35] <FEON> also, it seem, people here are saying Zenoss has issues with 64-bit filesystem...any info on this ?
[26-Jul-2007 19:24:47] <nassy> FEON: i don't recal seeing any issueson the mailing list but that does not mean they are not there. check their forum and mail archives if they exist
[26-Jul-2007 19:25:17] <nassy> im' new to zenoss so you may wish to wait for info from someone more familiar with it
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[26-Jul-2007 20:00:22] <pileofparts> FEON: I use both zenoss and nagios. I have been using nagios for years and it is very good at a l3-7 active service monitor but not much for trap/syslog/event handling.
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[26-Jul-2007 20:02:14] <pileofparts> FEON: SNMP stuff works alright in nagios as well. The event handler is the missing piece of the puzzle. Ideally you will want to take events generated from traps and syslog and correlate, deduplicate, etc... with your active service checks.
[26-Jul-2007 20:03:09] <pileofparts> FEON: If zenoss works for this stuff it has much better value than just a nagios installation. My problem is that it is not working for me.
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[26-Jul-2007 21:25:35] <pileofparts> Can anybody tell me why when modelling the device I only see the http service?
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[26-Jul-2007 21:42:34] <pileofparts> Basically no matter if I us the portscan fuction or the netstat -an when a model the host I get the same entry of only http
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> So I manually enter port 22 for tcp for ssh, run the modeler again and get this DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:22
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:80
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:111
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:199
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:47] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:443
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:49] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:600
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:51] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.PortscanClient:received plugin:zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap getOids
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:53] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.PortscanClient:portscan client finished collection for lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:55] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:client for lab2 finished collecting
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:57] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing data for device lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:43:59] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing plugin zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap on device lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:01] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing Ip Services for device lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:03] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:removing object ssh from rel ipservices on device os
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:05] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Events:Found device=lab2
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:07] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Events:EventClassInst=Remove
[26-Jul-2007 21:44:09] <pileofparts> connects to all the ports then deletes ssh
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[27-Jul-2007 04:48:43] <Darkfang> hi
[27-Jul-2007 04:49:46] <Darkfang> found a problem in zenoss :s
[27-Jul-2007 04:50:09] <Darkfang> it does not show all the interface of my switch although the SNMP describes all
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[27-Jul-2007 05:07:51] <Merciless> are the interfaces its not showing set to down?
[27-Jul-2007 05:08:09] <Merciless> it will prob only show current active interfaces
[27-Jul-2007 05:08:15] <Merciless> at a guess
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[27-Jul-2007 05:09:09] <Darkfang> no lots are active
[27-Jul-2007 05:09:14] <Darkfang> with server plugged on
[27-Jul-2007 05:12:43] <Merciless> ooo
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.47 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.48 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.49 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.50 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:46] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.105 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:47] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.106 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:51] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.107 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:53] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.108 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:55] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.109 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:57] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.110 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:13:59] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.111 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:01] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.112 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:03] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.113 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:05] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.114 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:07] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.115 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:09] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.116 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:11] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.117 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:13] <Darkfang> RFC1213-MIB::ifAdminStatus.118 = INTEGER: up(1)
[27-Jul-2007 05:14:15] <Darkfang> it stopped at index 50
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[27-Jul-2007 05:37:21] <Yal> hello
[27-Jul-2007 05:37:40] <Yal> Mind i I pop some question about zenwin?
[27-Jul-2007 05:38:19] <Yal> I run the latest version of zenoss on a ubuntu box
[27-Jul-2007 05:38:27] <Yal> works fine
[27-Jul-2007 05:38:46] <Yal> But i cannot get zenwin running
[27-Jul-2007 05:39:04] <Yal> installed python 2.4.4
[27-Jul-2007 05:39:18] <Yal> but i Get errors on all 3 tests
[27-Jul-2007 05:40:07] <Yal> The manual on zenwin is very unclear, so if somebody has it working I apreaciate all help¦Ã�
[27-Jul-2007 05:41:05] <Yal> Installing on win2003 R2 sp1 btw
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[27-Jul-2007 07:25:38] <Yal> ok found this now:
[27-Jul-2007 07:25:39] <Yal> Zenwin Ported to Linux
[27-Jul-2007 07:25:39] <Yal> Zenoss Core no longer needs to run Zenwin (the WMI Service information collector) on a Windows host. For release 2.0 we have ported WMI functionality to linux using Samba 4. As a result Zenwin will now run natively on a Linux host. The new Linux-based Zenwin is now included in the 2.0 distributions.
[27-Jul-2007 07:26:09] <Yal> I guess it means I no longer need a separated server to use this
[27-Jul-2007 07:27:33] <Yal> but where can I find info on actualy using this feature?
[27-Jul-2007 07:27:54] <Yal> google is not very helpful for me today
[27-Jul-2007 07:28:02] <adytum-bot> http://fakerake.com/2007/192/e-file-not-very-helpful/
[27-Jul-2007 07:31:28] <Yal> lol
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[27-Jul-2007 08:35:33] <jp10558> Yal: is ZenOSS pointed to Python 2.4?
[27-Jul-2007 08:35:51] <jp10558> Also, what three tests? Is the ZenWin process down?
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[27-Jul-2007 08:53:11] <Yal> jp10558 what do you mean?
[27-Jul-2007 08:53:39] <Yal> <jp10558> Yal: is ZenOSS pointed to Python 2.4?
[27-Jul-2007 08:53:39] <Yal> <jp10558> Also, what three tests? Is the ZenWin process down?
[27-Jul-2007 08:54:13] <Yal> I figured out that I no longer need a separated windows box, isthis correct?
[27-Jul-2007 08:54:33] <Yal> on the zenoss server all daemons are started correctly
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:23] <jp10558> yes
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:29] <Yal> ok
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:29] <jp10558> you only need the Zenoss 2.0.3 machine
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:33] <Yal> ok
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:42] <jp10558> so I'm not sure what you're talking about re the three tests?
[27-Jul-2007 08:55:47] <Yal> so i need python 2.4 on my linux box?
[27-Jul-2007 08:56:07] <jp10558> Yea, zenoss needs python 2.4 or 2.3
[27-Jul-2007 08:56:12] <Yal> 3 tests was from the faq where I needed the separated windows box
[27-Jul-2007 08:56:25] <Yal> letme check my python verson on the server
[27-Jul-2007 08:57:13] <Yal> Python 2.4.3 (#2, Oct 6 2006, 07:52:30)
[27-Jul-2007 08:57:13] <Yal> [GCC 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)] on linux2
[27-Jul-2007 08:57:25] <Yal> 2.4 version indeed
[27-Jul-2007 08:58:14] <Yal> when I look at the config of the zenwin daemon it has only one rule
[27-Jul-2007 08:58:34] <Yal> monitor localhost
[27-Jul-2007 08:58:39] <Yal> that's it
[27-Jul-2007 09:00:22] <Yal> I can get snmp info from the 3 windows servers
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:20] <jp10558> you want the monitor set to localhost
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:26] <jp10558> as that's where the zenwin monitor is
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:43] <Yal> so that is ok i guess?
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:45] <jp10558> you'll need to add some devices as /Server/Windows class to get WMI going
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:55] <jp10558> on those machines
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:55] <Yal> done..
[27-Jul-2007 09:03:57] <Darkfang> do I need to configure a TRAP community on my devices?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:07] <jp10558> Well, are you using 2k, XP, 2k3?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:24] <Yal> 2k3
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:33] <Yal> R2 sp1
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:36] <jp10558> Ok, have you installed the SNMP windows component?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:39] <Yal> yep
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:47] <jp10558> + the provided SNMP Informant (well, google download)?
[27-Jul-2007 09:04:59] <Yal> informant yes
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:07] <jp10558> ok, now you need to go to services.msc
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:11] <jp10558> and SNMP Service
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:22] <jp10558> and.. let me look
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:26] <jp10558> there are 2 tabs
[27-Jul-2007 09:05:57] <jp10558> Under traps
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:06] <jp10558> set community to public if not already
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:20] <jp10558> and add the zenoss server as a destination
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:21] <jp10558> then
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:26] <jp10558> security tab
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:28] <jp10558> uncheck
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:35] <jp10558> send authentication trap
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:44] <jp10558> set accepted community name to public
[27-Jul-2007 09:06:55] <jp10558> and set accept SNMP packets to the ZenOSS server also
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:00] <jp10558> then apply, and ok out
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:10] <jp10558> then, go to
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:32] <jp10558> the zenoss web console
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:38] <jp10558> and on the left, under classes
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[27-Jul-2007 09:07:40] <jp10558> go to devices
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:43] <jp10558> click server
[27-Jul-2007 09:07:45] <jp10558> click windows
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:04] <jp10558> click on the zProperties tab
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:08] <jp10558> and scroll way down
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:24] <jp10558> set zWinPassword and zWinUser
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[27-Jul-2007 09:08:39] <jp10558> to some Domain admin credentials. In zWinUser, use Domain\User
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:41] <Yal> is domain admin ok or should it be local?
[27-Jul-2007 09:08:46] <Yal> ah domain ok
[27-Jul-2007 09:09:03] <jp10558> then save all of that, go back to the device in the web console
[27-Jul-2007 09:09:16] <jp10558> and click on the little blue dropdown on the left of the device
[27-Jul-2007 09:09:41] <jp10558> go to manage -> model device
[27-Jul-2007 09:10:07] <jp10558> and wait a little while, maybe 5 minutes and you ought to see some events + windows services listeed
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[27-Jul-2007 09:10:26] <jp10558> 10 mintues and you should start seeing perf graphs
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:00] <Yal> ok lets check
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:03] <Yal> <jp10558> uncheck
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:03] <Yal> <jp10558> send authentication trap
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:12] <Yal> this was the only thing I changed for now
[27-Jul-2007 09:11:19] <Yal> rest was like you told me
[27-Jul-2007 09:13:56] <jp10558> ok, so you already had allowed the zenoss machine name in the Accept SNMP packets area?
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:18] <Yal> yes
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:23] <Yal> I get this error now
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:24] <Yal> wmi connection failed: User credentials cannot be used for local connections
[27-Jul-2007 09:14:27] <Yal> it is new
[27-Jul-2007 09:15:10] <jp10558> local connections? Mmm, never seen that before
[27-Jul-2007 09:16:51] <Yal> found the problem on a forum as well, no sollution tough
[27-Jul-2007 09:17:17] <Yal> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2676&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=062603681138ce39b95347b96cd57eb5
[27-Jul-2007 09:17:17] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - zenwin and WMI problems in 2.0.2 (at community.zenoss.com)
[27-Jul-2007 09:22:23] <Yal> trying another box
[27-Jul-2007 09:22:29] <Yal> cresh and clean
[27-Jul-2007 09:22:44] <Yal> Fresh
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[27-Jul-2007 09:28:58] <jp10558> mmm
[27-Jul-2007 09:29:46] <jp10558> good luck
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:03] <jp10558> I might recommend trying on an EL4 dedicated box, or EL5 if you feel lucky
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:23] <jp10558> I had good luck with EL4 and the dependicies they provided
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:28] <Yal> what is EL4
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:39] <jp10558> EL5 has been a PITA to get going, but now is ok (with small errors)
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:49] <Yal> I meanth trying antother windows box
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:52] <jp10558> Oh, a derivative of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4
[27-Jul-2007 09:30:53] <jp10558> oh
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:13] <jp10558> yea, try a different windows machine also
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:15] <jp10558> one thing
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:26] <jp10558> make sure the zWinUser is defined as
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:30] <jp10558> domain\username
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:37] <Yal> it is
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:38] <jp10558> and not some other method
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:44] <jp10558> oh, ok
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:46] <jp10558> good luck
[27-Jul-2007 09:31:52] <Yal> tnx for you help
[27-Jul-2007 09:32:37] <Yal> It seems taht only event's and services won't work
[27-Jul-2007 09:32:45] <Yal> I heve the software inventory
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[27-Jul-2007 09:41:10] <progma> i have it running on rhel4
[27-Jul-2007 09:44:10] <progma> one caveat is if you already have mysql installed and have other mysql db that require dependencies from things like php-mysql, you may run into problems like i did upgrading to mysql 5.0.22
[27-Jul-2007 09:44:32] <Yal> you use the "wmi thing" ?
[27-Jul-2007 09:44:36] <progma> better to do it with a fresh install on a dedicated box
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:14] <progma> nope, i don't have any windows here
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:25] <Yal> I used a clean ubuntu box and followed the ubuntu install guide on the zensite
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:36] <Yal> I have only win
[27-Jul-2007 09:45:51] <Yal> zenoss is the first linux here
[27-Jul-2007 09:46:15] <Yal> I guess i'l hav to digg a bit deeper
[27-Jul-2007 09:46:43] <jp10558> Right I can't get EL4 to work with other database uses, but EL5 uses the standard MySQL
[27-Jul-2007 09:46:50] <jp10558> however we did run into other issues
[27-Jul-2007 09:47:03] <jp10558> mostly resolved now, except for one zenAction error
[27-Jul-2007 09:54:16] <Yal> Hmm I found my services
[27-Jul-2007 09:54:22] <Yal> monitored False
[27-Jul-2007 09:54:33] <Yal> maybe this is the issue
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[27-Jul-2007 09:55:19] <Yal> how to enable
[27-Jul-2007 09:55:40] <Yal> duh
[27-Jul-2007 09:55:44] <Yal> found it
[27-Jul-2007 09:57:20] <Yal> now this is cool
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[27-Jul-2007 10:04:08] <Yal> bye guys
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[27-Jul-2007 10:13:15] <Darkfang> can you change how long RRD keeps the data?
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[27-Jul-2007 12:03:50] <cumelot> hi, i need to use an external mysql db ,how do i set the username and passwd of the db in zenoss to connect?
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[27-Jul-2007 13:35:43] <monrad> anyone seen "87.72.201.74 sendto error __init__() takes exactly 3 arguments (1 given)"
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[27-Jul-2007 13:50:10] <Lxy> I'm having a problem with zenoss and snmp-informant, can anyone help me?
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[27-Jul-2007 15:38:03] <pileofparts> I have an issue with zenmodeler on debian etch x64 on zenoss 2.0.2. When running the modeler it only detects http. I have tried both the netstat -an and the portscan method both with the same results.
[27-Jul-2007 15:38:32] <pileofparts> Has anybody else experienced this and more importantly is there a fix/workaround other than manually adding all the IP services?
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:20] <pileofparts> When running I get output similar to this:
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:using zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap on lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.DbConnectionPool:Creating a new connection; Pool size: 0
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.DbConnectionPool:Returned a connection; Pool size: 1
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:portscan collection device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:27] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:28] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.PortscanClient:sending queries for plugin zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:30] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:22
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:32] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:80
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:34] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:111
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:36] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:199
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:38] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:443
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:42] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.Portscanner:Connected to 198.18.0.2:600
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:44] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.PortscanClient:received plugin:zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap getOids
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:46] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.PortscanClient:portscan client finished collection for lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:48] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:client for lab2 finished collecting
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:50] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing data for device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:52] <pileofparts> DEBUG:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing plugin zenoss.portscan.IpServiceMap on device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:54] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:processing Ip Services for device lab2
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:56] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:no change detected
[27-Jul-2007 15:39:58] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:scan time: 4.08 seconds
[27-Jul-2007 15:40:00] <pileofparts> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:stopping...
[27-Jul-2007 16:03:24] <pileofparts> Anybody alive in here today?
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[27-Jul-2007 18:27:22] <davetoo> oops
[27-Jul-2007 18:27:46] <davetoo> PyObject_Malloc: assertion 'bp != ((void*0)' failed
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[27-Jul-2007 19:53:03] <eurowerke> hello
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[27-Jul-2007 19:56:01] <eurowerke> hello jczarnecki
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[27-Jul-2007 20:20:32] <eurowerke> I am me
[27-Jul-2007 20:20:41] <eurowerke> you talk
[27-Jul-2007 20:20:43] <eurowerke>
[27-Jul-2007 20:20:48] <eurowerke> yep
[27-Jul-2007 20:21:42] <jimmzee> jim
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:16] <bmu3r> wow
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:22] <bmu3r> can anyone see this
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:23] <bmu3r> d0h
[27-Jul-2007 20:22:38] <jimmzee> Hello
[27-Jul-2007 20:24:51] <bmu3r> i think my firewall is b0rked
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[27-Jul-2007 20:40:30] <eurowerke_> anyone see this
[27-Jul-2007 20:40:30] <eurowerke_> ?
[27-Jul-2007 20:41:14] <eurowerke> hello?
[27-Jul-2007 20:41:18] <eurowerke> grrr
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[29-Jul-2007 11:57:12] <x03> hi
[29-Jul-2007 11:57:23] <x03> my ./install.sh return this: make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[29-Jul-2007 11:57:52] <x03> someone know how to fix this ?
[29-Jul-2007 11:59:29] <x03> (i have python-dev allready installed)
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[30-Jul-2007 03:04:33] <Darkfang> hi
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[30-Jul-2007 06:09:10] <Darkfang> i need help
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:19] <Darkfang> i've written a script to ping devices
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:24] <Darkfang> it works perfectly in sheel
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:28] <Darkfang> shell*
[30-Jul-2007 06:09:50] <Darkfang> but when i put it in zenoss, I get a "command not found" error
[30-Jul-2007 06:10:01] <Darkfang> altough the script requires no PATH variable
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[30-Jul-2007 06:36:51] <Machnus> Hi! I'm currently testing zenoss (VMWare image, 2.0.3) and I'm having some trouble with the auto discovery function. When running zendisc run --net=10.9.9.0, nothing appears on the network interface of the host. Manually pinging works fine. Is this a common problem with an easy solution?
[30-Jul-2007 06:37:19] <Machnus> INFO:zen.Ping:pinged 254 devices in 2.41 seconds
[30-Jul-2007 06:37:20] <Machnus> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
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[30-Jul-2007 08:19:03] <jp10558> Machnus: I believe zendisc is bugged in 2.0.3
[30-Jul-2007 08:19:08] <jp10558> it's not going to work
[30-Jul-2007 08:19:22] <jp10558> You'll have to wait for a patch (hopefully 2.0.4 soon??)
[30-Jul-2007 08:20:01] <Machnus> Ah
[30-Jul-2007 08:21:07] <Machnus> I read about someone having this problem in 2.0.2 also. Maybe I should test 2.0.1.
[30-Jul-2007 08:22:09] <jp10558> You could
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[30-Jul-2007 08:23:59] <Machnus> Hmm, zenping complains about not having a events.log table, which seems understandable since it's not existing...
[30-Jul-2007 08:24:22] <Machnus> Is there an SQL schema file to source somewhere?
[30-Jul-2007 08:29:45] <jp10558> not that I know of
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[30-Jul-2007 09:05:18] <Bulwinkle> hi there cluther
[30-Jul-2007 09:06:01] <cluther> Good morning, Bulwinkle.
[30-Jul-2007 09:06:39] <Bulwinkle> How are things going in your world?
[30-Jul-2007 09:07:17] <jp10558> Anyone know how to "uninstall" the winexe service from a server 2003 machine cleanly (or should I just do a service remove as normal)?
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[30-Jul-2007 09:11:15] <cluther> Bulwinkle: 500mph..
[30-Jul-2007 09:12:23] <cluther> jp10558: A service remove should be clean. It is only making use of existing files on the system.
[30-Jul-2007 09:13:45] <jp10558> Ok
[30-Jul-2007 09:13:47] <jp10558> thanks
[30-Jul-2007 09:14:42] <jp10558> seems to work now
[30-Jul-2007 09:15:35] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I've gone through your instructions in that Zenpack tutorial to no avail....
[30-Jul-2007 09:17:59] <cluther> Bulwinkle: hmm.. I've done it like that many times before.
[30-Jul-2007 09:18:42] <Bulwinkle> cluther: have you had a look at the posting I made in the forums?
[30-Jul-2007 09:19:20] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Yeah.. all interfaces are getting set to unknown type?
[30-Jul-2007 09:19:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yep.... think I could have fatfingered something?
[30-Jul-2007 09:20:10] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Not sure.. mind if I take a look?
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[30-Jul-2007 09:22:21] <Bulwinkle> cluther: not at all
[30-Jul-2007 09:22:35] <Bulwinkle> cluther: has your IP changed?
[30-Jul-2007 09:22:54] <cluther> nope
[30-Jul-2007 09:23:17] <Bulwinkle> you should be able to SSH in and 8080.... you need the IP again?
[30-Jul-2007 09:24:28] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I still have the info, but it looks like the root password was changed.
[30-Jul-2007 09:26:06] <Bulwinkle> cluther: do you know where I can find Zenoss packages for SuSE?
[30-Jul-2007 09:27:16] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Eric Newton was working on getting one built for OpenSuSE 10.2 last week.
[30-Jul-2007 09:27:30] <Bulwinkle> awesome!
[30-Jul-2007 09:27:40] <Bulwinkle> just what I am looking for
[30-Jul-2007 09:28:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I think he eventually got it working too..
[30-Jul-2007 09:28:34] <cluther> Bulwinkle: If you'd like to test it, it can be found at http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-2.0.3-0.sles102.i586.rpm
[30-Jul-2007 09:29:37] <Bulwinkle> cluther: what are the chances for getting a 64 bit package
Man I'm pretty picky aren't I [30-Jul-2007 09:31:11] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Anytime soon, probably little chance. It is on the list though.
[30-Jul-2007 09:32:47] <DaveToo> wow, life in #zenoss
[30-Jul-2007 09:33:10] <DaveToo> Never seems to happen when I'm at work and sign on looking for help
[30-Jul-2007 09:35:16] <Bulwinkle> DaveToo: sometimes you can get lucky
[30-Jul-2007 09:35:17] <jp10558> I don't know about that
[30-Jul-2007 09:35:31] <jp10558> I've gotten great help during work hours before on #zenoss
[30-Jul-2007 09:36:59] * DaveToo is on California time
[30-Jul-2007 09:37:46] <cluther> Californians love Zenoss..
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:02] <cluther> I haven't seen you around in a while, Dave.
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:08] <cluther> How're things going?
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:31] <DaveToo> Busy
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:43] <DaveToo> Too many different projects
[30-Jul-2007 09:38:51] <cluther> That can be a drain.
[30-Jul-2007 09:39:22] <DaveToo> Too many #1 priorities
[30-Jul-2007 09:40:21] <DaveToo> I've been spending some time now and then trying to create UML diagrams for Zenoss in Visio
[30-Jul-2007 09:40:29] <DaveToo> mostly the ZenModel classes
[30-Jul-2007 09:40:41] <jp10558> I'm from New York - some of us east coasters like it too.
[30-Jul-2007 09:43:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any idea when the next Zenoss course will be?
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:38] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I fixed up the map. The problem was you were setting the type again after it had already been set.
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:50] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You can see the differences in CiscoInterfaceMap.py.diff
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:54] <Bulwinkle> cool
[30-Jul-2007 09:48:56] <Bulwinkle> thanks!
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:26] <Bulwinkle> cluther: saw you applied the map already... now I just need to go in and change the templates right?
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:29] <Merciless> heeey cluther hows it going
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:32] <cluther> Bulwinkle: yeah.
[30-Jul-2007 09:49:40] <cluther> Going well, Merciless.
[30-Jul-2007 09:50:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: Thanks.... I'll ring you again after I screw that up
[30-Jul-2007 09:51:29] <Darkfang> It seems i found a bug in zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap... Some ports of my switch don't appear in zenoss although I can see them doing snmpwalk
[30-Jul-2007 09:52:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: I don't have a date for the next class yet. If you want, I'll let you know once I do.
[30-Jul-2007 09:53:19] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I finally have two servers for production and I'll need to get some training to deploy them. My boss wants them to be located in two different places for disaster recovery and I'm not sure how to keep them both in sync without having them fighting each other.
[30-Jul-2007 09:55:10] <cluther> If the sole purpose of have two different locations is disaster recovery, I'd suggest leaving one off and simply sending the daily backup from the active zenoss to it. That way if there is a disaster you can simply restore the backup onto the backup hardware.
[30-Jul-2007 09:56:08] <Bulwinkle> Not a bad idea....
[30-Jul-2007 09:56:56] <Merciless> *wonders when new version will be released with working WMI*
[30-Jul-2007 09:57:21] <jp10558> WMI working now Merciless
[30-Jul-2007 09:57:22] <Bulwinkle> I've not had a WMI problem since going to 2.x
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[30-Jul-2007 09:58:50] <DaveToo> When's 2.0.4?
[30-Jul-2007 09:59:03] <jp10558> How does the daily backup work with Zenoss? Now that we're doing production, it's probably a good idea to work out something better than just rsync the entire mysql directory
[30-Jul-2007 10:00:11] <cluther> jp10558: It backs up the ZEO and MySQL databases and all of the RRD files.
[30-Jul-2007 10:01:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: is it a cron type of job we can run?
[30-Jul-2007 10:02:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It is. In fact the RPM installs it into /etc/cron.daily/zenoss
[30-Jul-2007 10:02:21] <Bulwinkle> cool... I'll have to look at it
[30-Jul-2007 10:04:34] <jp10558> ahh
[30-Jul-2007 10:04:39] <jp10558> where does it stick the backup files?
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[30-Jul-2007 10:04:54] <cluther> By default, $ZENHOME/backup
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:01] <cluther> or maybe it's backups
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:03] <jp10558> that's awesome, good to know
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:15] <DaveToo> cluther I could have sworn Mark Irlandez sent me a UML diagram months ago, but I can't find it
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:46] <Bulwinkle> does anyone have any suggested books that I can get to learn python?
[30-Jul-2007 10:05:46] <cluther> DaveToo: I've never seen a UML, but the zendocs command will actually generate some EpyDoc.
[30-Jul-2007 10:06:37] <cluther> Bulwinkle: http://diveintopython.org/
[30-Jul-2007 10:06:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Dive Into Python (at diveintopython.org)
[30-Jul-2007 10:06:45] <DaveToo> I'll look into that
[30-Jul-2007 10:08:13] <DaveToo> I've been trying to figure out how to deal with (i.e. find) "devices" that don't have IpInterfaces
[30-Jul-2007 10:08:18] <DaveToo> i.e. only a ManageIP
[30-Jul-2007 10:08:53] <DaveToo> I just discovered/realized that zendisc does an extra step that ZDeviceLoader does not
[30-Jul-2007 10:10:23] <DaveToo> zendisc adds IP addresses to the Networks for every ping reply it gets, regardless of whether the thing answered the SNMP probes or not.
[30-Jul-2007 10:12:16] <Darkfang> is there anyway to have statistical thresholds in zenoss? for example have an event if ping gets highet than 110% of its average value?
[30-Jul-2007 10:12:24] <Darkfang> higher$
[30-Jul-2007 10:15:54] <DaveToo> By default zenoss doesn't measure ping reponse time.
[30-Jul-2007 10:16:22] <DaveToo> I think I saw an RRDTemplate + script somewhere that did that, though.
[30-Jul-2007 10:17:13] <Darkfang> i added one
[30-Jul-2007 10:17:57] <Darkfang> i'm on mac os X so it's no big deal to get the ping time
[30-Jul-2007 10:18:04] <DaveToo> oh, you mean a dynamic, self-adjusting threshold?
[30-Jul-2007 10:18:10] <Darkfang> yes
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[30-Jul-2007 10:21:24] <DaveToo> One would have to figure out how to make use of RRDTool's Holt-Winters abberant behavior detection
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[30-Jul-2007 10:21:50] <Darkfang> oO
[30-Jul-2007 10:22:50] <jp10558> Hmmm, so wait, is it difficult to measure ping / snmp response time with Zenoss?
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:05] <jp10558> That's something we'd like to do if possible
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:07] <DaveToo> It's not recorded.
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:26] <Darkfang> what system are you using?
[30-Jul-2007 10:23:54] <jp10558> EL5
[30-Jul-2007 10:24:00] <jp10558> is that what you mean?
[30-Jul-2007 10:25:55] <Darkfang> so Red hat you mean?
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:36] <DaveToo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=250&highlight=graph+ping
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Graphing ping times (at community.zenoss.com)
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:42] <jp10558> Well, Scientific Linux 5, which is a red hat
[30-Jul-2007 10:27:46] <jp10558> derivitave
[30-Jul-2007 10:28:44] <Darkfang> look at your private conv
[30-Jul-2007 10:29:00] <Darkfang> I have dozens of own scripts for dirrents monitorings ^^
[30-Jul-2007 10:34:14] <kippi> I know I have asked this question before, but whats the best snmp windows client?
[30-Jul-2007 10:38:20] <jp10558> how does that all work? What I wondered is does it then run with the modeler?
[30-Jul-2007 10:38:25] <jp10558> and create a graph?
[30-Jul-2007 10:38:37] <jp10558> is it something we can add in zProperties for the machiens/groups that should have it vs all
[30-Jul-2007 10:40:54] <Darkfang> you mean my script?
[30-Jul-2007 10:40:59] <jp10558> yea
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:05] <Darkfang> add a template to your device or class
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:08] <jp10558> or just trying to understand what people are doing for add ons
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:24] <jp10558> Maybe build these things into ZenPacks?]
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:29] <jp10558> or is that overkill?
[30-Jul-2007 10:41:45] <jp10558> Darkfang: also, did you look at that post linked by DaveToo?
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:03] <jp10558> Are Nagios plugins an easy way to extend 2.x?
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:25] <Darkfang> yep
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:29] <Darkfang> i'm using a lot of them
[30-Jul-2007 10:42:46] <Darkfang> i never used zenpacks
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:06] <jp10558> Are you using an EL based OS? I'm just wondering if there are any "gotchas"
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:29] <Darkfang> i'm using mac OS X on most of my computers
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:33] <Darkfang> except a couple of linux
[30-Jul-2007 10:44:36] <Darkfang> with debian
[30-Jul-2007 10:45:20] <jp10558> Which OS are you running ZenOSS on?
[30-Jul-2007 10:46:48] <Darkfang> Mac OS X
[30-Jul-2007 10:47:12] <jp10558> Wow. Must have been fun to get running
[30-Jul-2007 10:48:31] <Darkfang> really easy in fact
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[30-Jul-2007 10:49:14] <Darkfang> the main problem is most collector plugins are not compliant with OS X, so i had to rewrite most of them using shell commands
[30-Jul-2007 10:49:32] <jp10558> I see
[30-Jul-2007 10:49:50] <jp10558> Were you able to use the relevant docs on the Zenoss site for using Nagios Plugins?
[30-Jul-2007 10:50:46] <Darkfang> just call the command using --help option
[30-Jul-2007 10:50:51] <Darkfang> it's quite easy to understand
[30-Jul-2007 10:52:30] <jp10558> Ok.
[30-Jul-2007 10:53:05] <jp10558> One more question, to basically anyone: how hard is it to move devices from SNMP to Ping monitoring + back? Does just changing the device class work?
[30-Jul-2007 11:00:19] <Darkfang> DaveToo,One would have to figure out how to make use of RRDTool's Holt-Winters abberant behavior detection > Ever head of someone doing this?
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[30-Jul-2007 11:20:01] <kippi> can you get zenoss to scan your network for your active IP address?
[30-Jul-2007 11:25:15] <jp10558> I assume that is what ZenDisc is for, except that it doesn't seem to work in 2.0.3
[30-Jul-2007 11:27:03] <kippi> will ZenDisc also pickup pings?
[30-Jul-2007 11:27:14] <kippi> not all of our severs have snmp enabled yet
[30-Jul-2007 11:28:13] <Darkfang> cluther, is there any plan to add holt-winters forecastin support as it is already implemented by RRD?
[30-Jul-2007 11:28:40] <DaveToo> I don't think zendisc will add them to be monitored unless they respond to snmp
[30-Jul-2007 11:29:36] <cluther> Darkfang: It is on the roadmap, but I believe it is slated to be an Enterprise feature.
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:17] <kippi> DaveToo: well i am just getting errors at the mo, dosn't seem to like the -net park
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:33] <DaveToo> kippi: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/add-device/
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:33] <kippi> cool
[30-Jul-2007 11:31:47] <DaveToo> For ping-only devices I've used that technique
[30-Jul-2007 11:32:03] <DaveToo> kippi: what version?
[30-Jul-2007 11:32:48] <Machnus> Weee, 2.0.1 worked better with zendisc
[30-Jul-2007 11:32:56] <Darkfang> cluther, ok :s
[30-Jul-2007 11:33:18] <DaveToo> 2.0.3 zendisc seems to be broken
[30-Jul-2007 11:33:28] <kippi> yeah, runing 2.0.3
[30-Jul-2007 11:34:43] <Machnus> jp10558: oh, I stumbled over the schema btw - Products/ZenEvents/db/ holds two sql-files.
[30-Jul-2007 11:35:04] <kippi> she I have found Discover Devices, does this use zendisc?
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:10] <DaveToo> Essentially, yes, I think so
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:16] <kippi> damm
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:31] <DaveToo> ${ZENOME}/bin/zendisc is a wrapper around the same stuff
[30-Jul-2007 11:36:43] <DaveToo> I'd back down to 2.0.2
[30-Jul-2007 11:37:41] <kippi> ah, seem to be using Zenoss 2.0.0
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:01] <Machnus> I read about 2.0.2 having the same problems in a comment on a forum, so I backed down to 2.0.1.
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:19] <progma> i installed 2.0.2, i manually ran zendisc via cmd line
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:20] <Machnus> (only one comment though
)[30-Jul-2007 11:39:32] <progma> the networks -> auto-discovery didn't seem to work
[30-Jul-2007 11:39:52] <kippi> thats what i seem to have with 2.0.0
[30-Jul-2007 11:40:12] <progma> er yah, networks -> discover devices
[30-Jul-2007 11:40:49] <kippi> damm!!!!
[30-Jul-2007 11:40:50] <progma> how do i add a mib to a device?
[30-Jul-2007 11:42:36] <progma> i have a temp sensor with an ethernet port that responds to two mibs for two temps; zenoss discovered the device but how do i tell it to monitor (and hopefully graph?) those temps
[30-Jul-2007 11:43:19] <jp10558> Check the pdf manual, it tells you how to add MIBs
[30-Jul-2007 11:43:59] <jp10558> It also goes into the graphs a bit
[30-Jul-2007 11:44:07] <progma> ok
[30-Jul-2007 11:44:51] <DaveToo> progma: what brand?
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:02] <progma> DaveToo: sensatronics
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:03] <jp10558> see page 87 WRT MIBS
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:26] <progma> jp10558: ok thx; i hate going through an entire manual to not find what i'm looking for
[30-Jul-2007 11:45:52] <jp10558> page 104 starts talking about performance monitoring
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:02] <jp10558> and I think it describes some of the graph setup in the next 10 pages
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:09] <DaveToo> AFAICT, the stuff about actual MIBs is only for traps
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:31] <jp10558> yea, I think I read you can't use it for monitoring yet...
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:34] <DaveToo> Loading MIBs doesn't help you for performance monitoring; you need to specify the numeric OID
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:42] <DaveToo> plus index
[30-Jul-2007 11:46:57] <jp10558> I have no idea how you do that
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:00] <progma> yes, i have specific oid
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:02] <jp10558> would likely be useful though
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:40] <DaveToo> progma we have Uptime Devices SensorHubs, which have temp and humidity probes
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:44] <progma> wait, so i can't set a threshold value then alert if it's > than that?
[30-Jul-2007 11:47:55] <DaveToo> the problem is that you can put the probes in either jack,
[30-Jul-2007 11:48:13] <progma> i.e. i snmp poll the sensatronics, and if the resulting temp val is >30'C for example, then i get an email
[30-Jul-2007 11:48:31] <DaveToo> so the index is not reliable; I had to write a perl script to figure out the index first and then act as a nagios plugin
[30-Jul-2007 11:48:35] <DaveToo> progma: of course you can
[30-Jul-2007 11:49:08] <progma> DaveToo: Uptime Devices SensorHubs <- is that a device class
[30-Jul-2007 11:49:24] <DaveToo> brand of environment monitors
[30-Jul-2007 11:49:28] <progma> ohh
[30-Jul-2007 11:50:40] <progma> what about alerting on syslog-ng events - i see they were automagically directed into zenoss event console
[30-Jul-2007 11:51:41] <DaveToo> I haven't played with zensyslog yet
[30-Jul-2007 11:52:33] <progma> this may well be teh Holy Grail of netmon
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:21] <DaveToo> I've been favorably impressed
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:36] <DaveToo> but they could work on making it a little easier to do performance tuning
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:43] <progma> so do i want to work more from an snmptrap or snmp mindset
[30-Jul-2007 11:53:53] <progma> i haven't worked much with traps yet
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:07] <kippi> its a lot better than hyperic, shame the discover devices isn't working
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:30] <progma> zabbix finally brought together monitoring, alerting and graphing
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:43] <DaveToo> good question; if you poll, you get performance trend history, at the cost of workload on the zenoss server
[30-Jul-2007 11:54:48] <progma> but god it takes a gazillion years to setup an alert on disk space and such
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:08] <DaveToo> as far as I can tell, you basically need enough RAM to keep all of the RRD files in cache
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:11] <progma> kippi: have you tried cmd line zendisc, that's what i had to do
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:41] <progma> seems like some mysql tuning would help
[30-Jul-2007 11:55:55] <kippi> if I do run zendisc run -net=10.6.0.0 it errors saying it can't find -n
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:04] <DaveToo> The problem with zendisc is that you end up with all of your devices in /Discovered
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:11] <DaveToo> kippi try two dashes
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:14] <DaveToo> --net
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:20] <progma> yah and you have to go back and reassign
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:27] <progma> which is ok with a few servers
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:41] <DaveToo> But not with the 10,000 I have over all five of my zenoss systems
[30-Jul-2007 11:56:46] <kippi> rather do that than add them in
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:06] <DaveToo> which is why I wrote my own discovery stuff,
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:12] <DaveToo> using nmap, perl, snmpget, etc
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:19] <DaveToo> my own sorting criteria
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:20] <progma> also zabbix has a custom agent, but you have to use it rather than using snmpd exclusively
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:22] <kippi> runing the zendisc see what happends
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:32] <progma> kippi: it takes a while
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:43] <Darkfang> is it possible to have a threshold based on another data point?
[30-Jul-2007 11:57:53] <progma> kippi: make sure all your devices have snmp listening
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:10] <kippi> progma: can you do it with ping as well?
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:21] <progma> i think it tries ping then snmp
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:24] <progma> not sure
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:28] <kippi> its says its seen 6 active ips
[30-Jul-2007 11:58:33] <progma> i just set this up last week
[30-Jul-2007 11:59:14] <DaveToo> First you should do a zendisc --routers
[30-Jul-2007 12:30:13] <Darkfang> anyone know what it the ds-name in rrdtool?
[30-Jul-2007 12:35:44] <Machnus> I'm reading the Zenoss Admin guide now, but it seems to be written for an older version. I'm reading 3.2 Modeling devices without using SNMP, but can't find "Collect Configuration" in 2.0.1?
[30-Jul-2007 12:36:17] <Machnus> "Push Changes"?
[30-Jul-2007 12:41:20] <DaveToo> In version two some of the commands are "hidden" in the little down-triangles in the upper left
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[30-Jul-2007 12:41:57] <Machnus> DaveToo: yeah, I "Manage" there, but no "Collect Configuration" under Manage.
[30-Jul-2007 12:42:18] <Machnus> "Model Device" maybe?
[30-Jul-2007 12:42:39] <Machnus> Yup, that's better
[30-Jul-2007 12:42:57] <jp10558> Yea, 2.0 guide is somewhat wrong in places
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:13] <jp10558> for instance the part where they say you need a separate ZenWin machine... you don't for 2.x
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:13] <DaveToo> yes
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:17] <DaveToo> model device
[30-Jul-2007 12:43:35] <Machnus> The rain stopped here, I'm off on a walk
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[30-Jul-2007 12:47:43] <ToeNad> I don't seem to be getting e-mail notifications, the test works fine though. Do I need to have a schedule for notifications to function?
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[30-Jul-2007 12:49:34] <jp10558> no
[30-Jul-2007 12:49:46] <jp10558> ToeNad: did you set up an alerting rule
[30-Jul-2007 12:49:54] <jp10558> under a created local account?
[30-Jul-2007 12:50:22] <ToeNad> I set it up under the admin account
[30-Jul-2007 12:52:24] <jp10558> the admin account that ZenOss comes with
[30-Jul-2007 12:52:29] <jp10558> doesn't send alerts as far as I know
[30-Jul-2007 12:52:48] <jp10558> I think that's either a bug or a way to get people to not use the default account for security
[30-Jul-2007 12:53:09] <jp10558> make a different account, elevate to admin level (manager IIRC) and then log in with that
[30-Jul-2007 12:53:16] <jp10558> set up the alerting rule there
[30-Jul-2007 12:55:42] <ToeNad> true enough, that worked. Thanks for the assist.
[30-Jul-2007 12:57:22] <jp10558> glad to help
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[30-Jul-2007 13:21:23] <ToeNad> exit
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[30-Jul-2007 14:46:52] <microchp> Question: I already have MySQL 5.0.44 from centosplus repo, but zenoss is complaining about not having 5.0.22 or greater. What is the zenoss rpm lookin for?
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[30-Jul-2007 14:52:55] <tty01> would anyone know why changes to a type of graph doesnt show at all?
[30-Jul-2007 14:58:05] <microchp> disregard last question, just used nodeps for now
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[30-Jul-2007 14:59:20] <progma> microchp: you do need mysql server 5.0.22 or greater - i had to also install zenoss rpm with nodeps but i still upgraded to 5.0.45 (since i couldn't keep my old php-mysql junk) - something about a mysql feature zenoss uses that is not avail in < 5.0.22
[30-Jul-2007 15:00:49] <progma> microchp: oh sorry i didn't see the 5.0.44 reference ; yah i have rhel4 here and installed 5.0.45 from a custom french repo
[30-Jul-2007 15:01:02] <Machnus> Hm, I think I'm stuck again. As I understand it one can monitor services, for example port 22 for SSH. And I can add new services without a problem, but how do tell Zenoss which IPs to monitor? And what is a "service key"?
[30-Jul-2007 15:01:11] <progma> microchp: so you should be ok actually
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[30-Jul-2007 15:02:46] <jp10558> If you're installing ZenOSS from RPM on EL4.x
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:02] <jp10558> you basically have to use the zenoss-deps RPM of MySQL Server and Client IME
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:08] <jp10558> or, you can use EL5
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:14] <jp10558> which just works
[30-Jul-2007 15:03:51] <progma> yah but if you have other mysql db that use older mysql addons it turns to hell, so you might as well recommend people installing on a clean server with nothing on it
[30-Jul-2007 15:04:19] <progma> let me guess, it's in the docs somewhere
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:13] <jp10558> Yea, I had a few days of PAIN getting ZenOSS installed on the same machine as GLPI + OCSNG
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:24] <jp10558> ended up upgrading to SL5
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:31] <progma> yah sounds similar to here
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:42] <jp10558> and even then had to muck around, and still not entirely sure why zenoss suddenly decided to install and work
[30-Jul-2007 15:05:58] <progma> i was a bit leary of moving to rhel5, as i've only got my workstation and my users' laptops on 5
[30-Jul-2007 15:06:23] <jp10558> Hey - anyone monitoring disk I/O with ZenOSS Linux RAID and Windows environement?
[30-Jul-2007 15:06:24] <jp10558> s
[30-Jul-2007 15:06:33] <jp10558> or does everyone use Nagios plugins for that?
[30-Jul-2007 15:07:17] <microchp> progma, thanks. it looks ok.
[30-Jul-2007 15:07:17] <progma> jp10558: not yet here, i haven't had much time to customize yet, but i've still got cacti graphing that stuff via snmp
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[30-Jul-2007 15:17:53] <jp10558> Mmm, I'm looking at check_nfs4
[30-Jul-2007 15:18:45] <jp10558> this looks odd as it seems to want check_rpc to load check_nfs4 in their docs? I'm not sure if this will work with Zenoss or not
[30-Jul-2007 15:18:48] <jp10558> any ideas
[30-Jul-2007 15:19:53] <jp10558> Mmm, will Zenoss need the NRPE plugin (Network Remote Plugin Executor)?
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[30-Jul-2007 15:28:22] <kickfliph> hi
[30-Jul-2007 15:28:26] <kickfliph> every one
[30-Jul-2007 15:29:14] <kickfliph> how a can get zenoss work if mysql its not in localhost
[30-Jul-2007 15:29:26] <kickfliph> ?
[30-Jul-2007 15:31:45] <kickfliph> alguien ?
[30-Jul-2007 15:31:50] <kickfliph> some one ?
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[30-Jul-2007 18:19:01] <Rumpkie> hello, anybody home?
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[30-Jul-2007 18:29:32] <Rumpkie> can somebody help me get Zenoss running...
[30-Jul-2007 18:37:07] * Rumpkie pokes the usergroup
[30-Jul-2007 18:39:01] <Rumpkie> 40 people in the room and nobody around... that has to be some kind of record
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[30-Jul-2007 22:38:20] <junix659> are there any pacakges for Debian Stable (ETch)
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[31-Jul-2007 01:59:31] <Darkfang> hi
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[31-Jul-2007 03:07:20] <moath> is there a way to add an IP service to a system group or class?
[31-Jul-2007 03:11:33] <Darkfang> I looked but didn't find anything so i'm using perf templates
[31-Jul-2007 03:11:43] <Darkfang> with no datapoints
[31-Jul-2007 03:16:23] <Darkfang> anyway to debug graph commands?
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[31-Jul-2007 03:40:29] * Darkfang needs some help with custom graphs
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[31-Jul-2007 04:03:06] <kippi> hey
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[31-Jul-2007 04:06:19] <kippi> zenoss is seeing some devices when using zendisc rin --net=10.6.0.0 but the devices are not running snmp, is this why its not adding them?
[31-Jul-2007 04:12:49] <moath> i ran into an issue with zendisc not discovering any devices with zenoss 2.0.3
[31-Jul-2007 04:12:57] <moath> downgraded to 2.0.2 and it went away
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[31-Jul-2007 04:15:25] <kippi> its werid as it pings
[31-Jul-2007 04:16:30] <kippi> but dosn't add, is there a away to turn off snmp
[31-Jul-2007 04:16:55] <moath> not sure
[31-Jul-2007 04:16:59] <moath> i just installed today
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[31-Jul-2007 04:33:05] <Machnus> Does anyone here have a pointer to documentation about gathering performance data from commands? I haven't the slightest clue how to separate the values in output from check_disk for example.
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[31-Jul-2007 04:39:05] <Darkfang> is it possible to use thales expression in graph custom commands?
[31-Jul-2007 04:42:37] <Machnus> http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/developer-guidelines.html#AEN202 <--- is zenoss automatically refering to the value after the label in the RRD Format field?
[31-Jul-2007 04:44:38] <Darkfang> yep
[31-Jul-2007 04:44:49] <Machnus> Ah, thanks
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[31-Jul-2007 05:49:00] <kippi> zenoss is seeing some devices when using zendisc rin --net=10.6.0.0 but the devices are not running snmp, is this why its not adding them?
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[31-Jul-2007 06:33:08] <tcom> anyone know if zenoss2 can do disk monitoring out of the box? or is this an addon that you purchase
[31-Jul-2007 06:34:37] <bzed> tcom: disk space is monitored automatically via snmp
[31-Jul-2007 06:35:01] <bzed> tcom: and if you want to monitor smart values, have a look into the nagios plugins, probably write one by yourself if you need to
[31-Jul-2007 06:35:21] <bzed> but I guess you could even add that to snmp - not sure, I'm no snmp geek
[31-Jul-2007 06:36:03] <tcom> Z2 seems to cripple alot of the features that 'just worked' on Z1
[31-Jul-2007 06:36:17] <tcom> Thanks bzed
[31-Jul-2007 06:38:58] <tcom> Also, where would be the best place in Z2 to document unplanned maintenance? Like replacing parts etc. I used to use the comments in Nagios for this
[31-Jul-2007 06:46:23] <bzed> you can schedule maintenance times somewhere
[31-Jul-2007 06:47:02] <bzed> not sure where, I'm still working more on the packaging of zenoss into a debian package then with zenoss
[31-Jul-2007 06:49:23] <tcom> cheers. seems like such an obvious feature.
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[31-Jul-2007 08:55:19] <Darkfang> when modifying zenoss sources, is there a simple way to "see" them than restarting zenoss ?
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[31-Jul-2007 09:42:02] <jp10558> Is there a way to get Zenoss to show what machine is connected to a switch port?
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[31-Jul-2007 10:23:14] <creiht> cluther: Do you know what versions of snmp are supported for snmptraps?
[31-Jul-2007 10:23:36] <cluther> 1 or 2
[31-Jul-2007 10:23:40] <creiht> cool thanks
[31-Jul-2007 10:24:07] <creiht> A cowerker is trying to get snmptrap sending working from log4j
[31-Jul-2007 10:24:44] <cluther> Hmm.. never thought of that. Most people are just using the log4j syslog appender.
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:08] <bnafziger> cluther, thanks
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:24] <cluther> bnafziger: Morning, bnafziger!
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:50] <cluther> Thanks for relaying that story about the t-shirt. Always interesting to see how the word spreads.
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:56] <bnafziger> heh
[31-Jul-2007 10:28:59] <creiht> cluther: Well the snmptrap appender isn't exactly user friendly
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[31-Jul-2007 10:29:24] <cluther> creiht: The syslog appender has the added benefit of allowing you to get severity (priority) information without doing event mapping.
[31-Jul-2007 10:29:41] <cluther> creiht: traps have no standard of severity.
[31-Jul-2007 10:30:11] <creiht> Yeah I know.... Unfortunately I made the mistake of installing zenoss on our syslog server
[31-Jul-2007 10:30:36] <creiht> so Zenoss' syslog has to run on a nonstandard port
[31-Jul-2007 10:31:04] <creiht> And as far as we can tell (at least without some extreme hacking) it is not easy to make the syslog appender send to a non-default port
[31-Jul-2007 10:31:34] <creiht> One of these days when I have time, I'm going to get Zenoss on its own box
[31-Jul-2007 10:31:54] <cluther> creiht: True. Is your syslog server not running syslog-ng or something that can forward the logs?
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:14] <progma> i have zenoss on my central syslog-ng server
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:17] <creiht> cluther: Can you forward only specific logs
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:37] <cluther> creiht: With syslog-ng, yes.
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:40] <creiht> Well we process something like 500GB a week
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:42] <progma> upon install zenoss redirected syslog-ng into its event console
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:44] <creiht> of logs
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:52] <cluther> creiht: You use a filter and add it to your destination definition.
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:53] <creiht> err 50Gb
[31-Jul-2007 10:32:58] <Darkfang> i definitly hate python
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:08] <creiht> hrmm
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:20] <creiht> I may have to look into that... someone else set up the syslog server
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:47] <cluther> creiht: You need to make sure that your syslog-ng has spoofing support compiled in. Otherwise Zenoss is going to think all syslog messages are coming from localhost.
[31-Jul-2007 10:33:55] <creiht> hehe
[31-Jul-2007 10:35:00] <creiht> cluther: Thanks for the tips
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[31-Jul-2007 10:36:17] <creiht> Now I just need more hours in a day
[31-Jul-2007 10:47:50] * Darkfang has holt-winter detection early working
[31-Jul-2007 10:47:54] <Darkfang> nearly*
[31-Jul-2007 10:48:16] <cluther> Darkfang: Wow.. just for graphing, or thresholding too?
[31-Jul-2007 10:49:34] <Darkfang> graphin is really easy
[31-Jul-2007 10:49:44] <Darkfang> just have to use the good RRA parameters
[31-Jul-2007 10:49:53] <Darkfang> but thresholding should work in a few minutes
[31-Jul-2007 10:50:12] <Darkfang> it's not a really "clean" job because i had never code anything in python before today
[31-Jul-2007 10:50:21] <Darkfang> but it should be working
[31-Jul-2007 10:52:31] <Darkfang> my biggest problem for a clean work is I couldn't find how to get pointer on the devices, performance monitor from the ThresholdManager
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[31-Jul-2007 11:08:20] <Darkfang> it's working !! \o\ \o/ /o/
[31-Jul-2007 11:08:55] <kickfliph> not mine :S
[31-Jul-2007 11:09:11] <Darkfang> got dynamic thresholds
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[31-Jul-2007 11:18:46] <jp10558> Is there a way to get Zenoss to show what machine is connected to a switch port?
[31-Jul-2007 11:19:28] <Darkfang> maybe if you can configure snmpd on your routeur
[31-Jul-2007 11:21:18] <jp10558> Well, to expand, we're getting this information from Net Disco now - but it uses CDP, and now our switches are doing LLDP I believe
[31-Jul-2007 11:21:40] <jp10558> I was wondering if there is a way to do some/all of this inside of Zenoss, or if anyone is looking to add these capibilities?
[31-Jul-2007 11:22:28] <Darkfang> can't tell you
[31-Jul-2007 11:24:09] <progma> how do i do a manual remodel
[31-Jul-2007 11:25:04] <progma> after i add processes
[31-Jul-2007 11:27:07] <jp10558> click on the dropdown for the device
[31-Jul-2007 11:27:17] <progma> ah
[31-Jul-2007 11:27:19] <progma> thanks
[31-Jul-2007 11:29:18] <Darkfang> cluther, when creating normal RRA do you use special option so the older it is the less point you keep?
[31-Jul-2007 11:29:52] <cluther> yeah
[31-Jul-2007 11:31:03] <Darkfang> can i find it somewhere? i'dl like to do the same with my own RRA
[31-Jul-2007 11:34:46] <Darkfang> found it
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:01] <cluther> Then I suppose the answer is yes, you can.
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:02] <jp10558> I'm looking at trying to monitor NFS RAID machines disk I/O performance. I know I can get the network performance from the default ethernet port templates, but any idea how to grab the Disk I/O from an EL4.5 machine?
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:28] <jp10558> I did see a Nagios plugin called: check_nfs4 4.0.2
[31-Jul-2007 11:35:47] <jp10558> but I'm at a loss getting it to work. Just trying the command line gave all sorts of perl errors (as it's a .pl file)
[31-Jul-2007 11:36:03] <Bulwinkle> cluther: since I'm getting ready to install my new server should there be any problems taking the existing backup I have and restoring it to the new server?
[31-Jul-2007 11:37:04] <cluther> Bulwinkle: As long as you'll be using the same version of Zenoss it'll be fine.
[31-Jul-2007 11:37:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: cool... what are your feelings about using an external mysql server? Will it hurt performance?
[31-Jul-2007 11:40:18] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Not at all.. unless it is a latent link.
[31-Jul-2007 11:41:21] <cluther> cluther: MySQL usually ends up RAM or disk IO bound, the network is rarely the bottleneck. By this logic, you'd more likely be gaining performance.
[31-Jul-2007 11:41:32] <progma> jp10558: nfsstat?
[31-Jul-2007 11:41:54] <Bulwinkle> cluther: 1G link on both boxes, same switch. I'm trying to move all of my MySQL DBs to one server. Is there a good way to get the syslogs going to ZenOSS over to syslog-ng?
[31-Jul-2007 11:43:19] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You'd want to do it the other way. Send your syslogs to syslog-ng, then from there to Zenoss.
[31-Jul-2007 11:43:40] <Bulwinkle> cluther: can they live happily together on the same box?
[31-Jul-2007 11:43:58] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Absolutely. Run NG on the standard 514/udp port, and Zenoss on something else.
[31-Jul-2007 11:44:13] <Bulwinkle> cluther: duh... sounds pretty easy
[31-Jul-2007 11:44:29] <Bulwinkle> cluther: save me from using another server for syslogs
[31-Jul-2007 11:44:46] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Just make sure that your syslog-ng has spoofing support compiled in.
[31-Jul-2007 11:45:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: spoofing? I'll keep it in mind
[31-Jul-2007 11:47:07] <cluther> Bulwinkle: https://lists.balabit.hu/pipermail/syslog-ng/2004-November/006695.html
[31-Jul-2007 11:47:36] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I
[31-Jul-2007 11:47:54] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'll probably be working on it next week so I'll save that link!
[31-Jul-2007 11:48:08] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'll be hanging in syslog-ng a lot too by the looks of it.
[31-Jul-2007 11:49:39] <Merciless> <cluther> cluther: MySQL usually ends up RAM or disk IO bound, the network is rarely the bottleneck. By this logic, you'd more likely be gaining performance.
[31-Jul-2007 11:49:44] <Merciless> do you talk to yourself a lot cluther?
[31-Jul-2007 11:49:53] <jp10558> progma: is there a way to pass that back to Zenoss?
[31-Jul-2007 11:51:38] <cluther> Merciless: Tons.
[31-Jul-2007 11:56:31] <Darkfang> gloups ôO
[31-Jul-2007 11:56:40] <Darkfang> I'm gonne have over 2Gb of rrd files
[31-Jul-2007 11:58:07] <progma> jp10558: not sure; i know that's one way of diagnosing nfs - maybe you can edit your snmpd.conf to allow execution of that command? i do this with zabbix - in the agent you can put whatever shell code you want and basically i pipe the output of a command prtdiag into grep and awk to get the number i want
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[31-Jul-2007 12:03:15] <Darkfang> cluther, how can you get the device name in the filesystem template?
[31-Jul-2007 12:03:31] <jp10558> Hmm, does Zenoss have something like Winexe for linux machines?
[31-Jul-2007 12:03:42] <jp10558> I'm assuming it's SSH based monitoring related
[31-Jul-2007 12:04:11] <jp10558> I think we're looking for something like a supported nfswatch though
[31-Jul-2007 12:05:26] <cluther> Darkfang: ${here/device/id} should work
[31-Jul-2007 12:05:34] <Darkfang> ok thanks
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[31-Jul-2007 12:09:02] <bzed> jp10558: why would anybody want to have something weird like dcom if there's ssh, nagios/zenoss plugins and snmp
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[31-Jul-2007 12:09:19] <bzed> more than enough ways to monitor anything without the need for something broken like dcom
[31-Jul-2007 12:09:50] <cluther> jp10558: Zenoss does use winexe.. it actually comes bundled with it.
[31-Jul-2007 12:10:24] <Darkfang> device has not id attribute :s
[31-Jul-2007 12:10:51] <cluther> Darkfang: hmm... ok, then drop the /id.
[31-Jul-2007 12:11:12] <Darkfang> ok ^^
[31-Jul-2007 12:11:41] <Darkfang> is there a list of all available tales expressions somewhere? The one from the admin guide is... short ^^
[31-Jul-2007 12:14:00] <jp10558> I think I was unclear, I meant that I understand how to run commands on a windows machine with Winexe
[31-Jul-2007 12:14:10] <jp10558> how would I do the same to a Linux target device?
[31-Jul-2007 12:16:14] <cluther> jp10558: Setup public key authentication. Then put something like this in the command..
[31-Jul-2007 12:17:08] <cluther> jp10558: ssh ${dev/zCommandUsername}@${dev/manageIp} 'command'
[31-Jul-2007 12:17:42] <jp10558> I see
[31-Jul-2007 12:20:22] <jp10558> so I get the feeling there's no easy way to do disk I/O monitoring right now
[31-Jul-2007 12:28:53] <progma> wait, one question i have about zenoss is whether i have to use traps or will zenoss actively query other snmpd
[31-Jul-2007 12:35:31] <Darkfang> is it a matter if i remove all the perf directory ?
[31-Jul-2007 12:37:42] <progma> does that make sense? like in cacti the data source is the snmp oid, then cacti polls snmpd on remote hosts with that oid, receives the value and stores it
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[31-Jul-2007 12:49:54] <progma> or is this how i'm gonna get hooked into buying zenpacks
[31-Jul-2007 12:54:37] <Bulwinkle> cluther: any word on ldap authentication?
[31-Jul-2007 12:55:16] <cluther> Bulwinkle: It works, you just need to install the python-ldap libraries. Then the LDAPUserFolder and LDAPMultiPlugins Zope products.
[31-Jul-2007 12:55:40] <Bulwinkle> cluther: are those things we need to pay for?
[31-Jul-2007 12:56:03] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Nope
[31-Jul-2007 12:56:31] <Bulwinkle> cluther: would it be possible to use kerberos yet?
[31-Jul-2007 12:57:43] <Darkfang> cluther, what happens if I change the RRA creation command for a datapoint? Is it OK or do I have to delete it so it'll create a new one?
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:19] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Never tried it, but there is a Zope product for it: http://www.zope.org/Members/mstrickl/KerberosUserFolder
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:25] <cluther> Darkfang: It will continue using the current RRD file with the old settings until you delete it.
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:29] <Darkfang> ok
[31-Jul-2007 12:58:42] <Darkfang> thanks
[31-Jul-2007 13:04:43] <Bulwinkle> cluther: so it looks like I only need that KerberosUserFolder plugin... I'll check it out and let you know
[31-Jul-2007 13:07:09] <jp10558> Bulwinkle: and then it would let you authenticate on the Zenoss screen with your kerberos login?
[31-Jul-2007 13:07:23] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: looks like it
[31-Jul-2007 13:07:43] <Bulwinkle> I know little about ZenOSS and even LESS about Zope so my chances here are probably not good
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[31-Jul-2007 13:10:41] <Bulwinkle> cluther: you got a link to install those products?
[31-Jul-2007 13:11:20] <cluther> Afraid not. The LDAPUserFolder and LDAPMultiPlugins have good READMEs associated with them.
[31-Jul-2007 13:11:30] <cluther> They can give you an idea of how to install a product into Zope
[31-Jul-2007 13:14:38] <Bulwinkle> cluther: when they talk about the Product folder are they talking about the one under $ZENHOME?
[31-Jul-2007 13:15:10] <moath> Is there a way I can bulk scan (portmap, etc.) a class of machines?
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:02] <cluther> moath: zenmodeler run --path=/Server/Windows --collect=portscan.IpServiceMap
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:04] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Yes
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:12] <moath> cluther: sweet!
[31-Jul-2007 13:16:15] <moath> cluther: thanks
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[31-Jul-2007 13:22:05] <moath> cluther: also, how would I add an IP service like SSH or HTTP to a class?
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:10] <cluther> moath: You don't add services (IP or Windows) to a class in the same way you would do for a template or zProperty.
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:38] <moath> ahh, so i'd add the template to a group?
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:39] <cluther> moath: IP services are defined globally with a default "Monitor" status. You can then override the monitor flag on a per-device basis.
[31-Jul-2007 13:25:53] <moath> interesting
[31-Jul-2007 13:28:50] <moath> so what's the best way to enable monitoring of an IP service for a group (by location or whaever)
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:03] <progma> moath: well i'm running into the same thing
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:12] <progma> moath: looks like you go into classes -> services
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:15] <progma> then there's a huge list
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:23] <moath> yea
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:28] <progma> right now i'm filtering on privileged ports
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:40] <progma> i just clicked on ssh and set Monitor from False to True
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:48] <moath> ahh
[31-Jul-2007 13:29:51] <progma> and it does already see all my servers that have that service already
[31-Jul-2007 13:30:20] <progma> next step is alerting someone if it goes down...
[31-Jul-2007 13:31:09] <progma> i'm still confused about processes though
[31-Jul-2007 13:31:25] <progma> i am still unable to force a manual "remodel" to have zenoss query my devices for the new processes i added
[31-Jul-2007 13:31:59] <progma> can i just restart a zen daemon somewhere
[31-Jul-2007 13:32:11] <monrad> is it possible to make a zenpack to monitor cpus and temperatures on foundry routers (they depend on which boards are in the router)
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[31-Jul-2007 13:48:54] <Bulwinkle> cluther: I'm supposed to restart Zope, how do I do that?
[31-Jul-2007 13:49:12] <cluther> Bulwinkle: As the zenoss user: zopectl restart
[31-Jul-2007 13:49:51] <Bulwinkle> cluther: hrm, still isn't finding the KerberosUserFolder I put under $ZENHOME/Products
[31-Jul-2007 13:50:33] <cluther> Bulwinkle: There's likely a problem compiling it in that case. You can potentially look into $ZENHOME/log/events.log to see if Zope logged anything about trying to load it.
[31-Jul-2007 13:55:09] <Bulwinkle> cluther: ah found the problem... built kypass but didn't install (duh)....
[31-Jul-2007 13:56:32] <Bulwinkle> cluther: now it wants me to add this as a Normal User Folder... what the heck does that mean?
[31-Jul-2007 13:57:21] <cluther> Bulwinkle: heh.. go to /zport/manage/acl_users and screw around. I'll be offline for a bit.
[31-Jul-2007 14:00:12] <jp10558> Bulwinkle: if you figure this out, would you be so kind as to write up a quick and dirty HOWTO and post to the wiki (is there one?) or mailing list?
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[31-Jul-2007 14:23:31] <kickfliph> hey some one can help me please
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[31-Jul-2007 14:32:56] <jp10558> kickfliph: what's the problem?
[31-Jul-2007 14:34:07] <kickfliph> eeehh jp10558 i think it's solve
[31-Jul-2007 14:34:44] <kickfliph> some lib that it's not was instaled
[31-Jul-2007 14:34:46] <kickfliph>
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[31-Jul-2007 14:47:56] <moath> cluther: i tried that scan command but it didn't find any snmp or portscan plugins for the class i ran it on...are the portscan plugins something i apply by class?
[31-Jul-2007 14:48:14] <cluther> moath: Yes, you set them with zCollectorPlugins
[31-Jul-2007 14:49:45] <Bulwinkle> cluther: there must be something wrong with that authentication product. It won't let me paste it
[31-Jul-2007 14:51:17] <jp10558> moath: what does the portscan plugin do? Or, why would someone want to use a portscan plugin?
[31-Jul-2007 14:52:53] <moath> jp10558: it should help it auto-discover the services running on a machine
[31-Jul-2007 14:53:42] <jp10558> Mmm, so far the SNMP scan done gets me IP services, and WMI get's me windows services
[31-Jul-2007 14:57:13] <progma> jp10558: what gets you process monitoring
[31-Jul-2007 15:01:47] <jp10558> nothing, I was wondering regarding that. I can's see how portscans would get me process monitoring though
[31-Jul-2007 15:02:31] <cluther> jp10558: The portscan.IpServiceMap plugin is useful when you don't have SNMP access to a system, or it doesn't support the TCP/UDP MIBs.
[31-Jul-2007 15:02:57] <cluther> jp10558: The snmp.IpServiceMap will typically get you much better information as it will show both TCP and UDP services, even if they're only listening on 127.0.0.1, or firewalled.
[31-Jul-2007 15:06:21] <progma> well looks like restarting the zenmodeler and/or zenprocess daemons did the trick to get process monitoring to work
[31-Jul-2007 15:24:23] <jp10558> ahh
[31-Jul-2007 15:24:27] <jp10558> thanks for the clarification cluther
[31-Jul-2007 15:24:36] <jp10558> So no generic process monitoring then
[31-Jul-2007 15:25:05] <cluther> jp10558: Process monitoring can only be done via SNMP or SSH if you're using the ZenPlugins package.
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[31-Jul-2007 15:25:37] <progma> ohh so you can add ssh functionality for things to check
[31-Jul-2007 15:25:54] <progma> i noticed you could put in actions in a shell script form to execute on certain conditions
[31-Jul-2007 15:25:59] <progma> i can't wait to get this thing fully config'd
[31-Jul-2007 15:26:14] <cluther> progma: Yup.. you can model a system and monitor it via SSH if you wanted to.
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[31-Jul-2007 15:26:31] <cluther> progma: Of course this isn't as high performance as SNMP, but it is infinitely flexible.
[31-Jul-2007 15:26:40] <progma> oh yes
[31-Jul-2007 15:26:46] <progma> snmp for the generic stuff
[31-Jul-2007 15:27:01] <progma> ssh for really customized things or long chains of unix cmd line
[31-Jul-2007 15:27:24] <cluther> progma: I like SNMP for everything in Unix. Using the pass_persist support in Net-SNMP is awesome.
[31-Jul-2007 15:27:47] <cluther> progma: If you're a Perl guy, you can grab SNMP::Persist from CPAN to make life easier.
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:07] <jp10558> So, I could use the ZenPlugins package + SNMP and it would automatically grab process info for the device if it's Linux?
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:07] <progma> i have to pipe prtdiag through grep and awk to get CPU temps, so i can do this over ssh
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:18] <jp10558> anything like it for Windows planned?
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:22] <jp10558> or available
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:24] <cluther> jp10558: SNMP *or* ZenPlugins
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:28] <cluther> jp10558: Not both.
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:34] <progma> you still need the snmpinformant thing right
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:45] <progma> i had to install that for a mixed env with nagios
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:54] <cluther> progma, jp10558: For Windows you're currently stuck with SNMP and Informant.
[31-Jul-2007 15:28:57] <jp10558> Oh. So I'd have to model the entire device via ZenPlugins to get the processes
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:18] <cluther> jp10558: This is a bit confusing actually.. it goes like this:
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:31] <cluther> jp10558: Zenoss can model a Linux system using SSH without the ZenPlugins.
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:37] <progma> jp10558: what i just did was added some important processes like cron and sshd in classes -> processes
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[31-Jul-2007 15:29:45] <cluther> jp10558: However, to MONITOR the system via SSH it needs ZenPlugins to be installed.
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:48] <progma> then either wait 6 hours or restart zenmodeler and zenprocess
[31-Jul-2007 15:29:58] <jp10558> I guess I'm wondering if there was a way to see if say, a certain program running (not a daemon/service, not exposing an IP interface)
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:07] <jp10558> If so, how many instances of that program
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:12] <zombor> is there a way to prevent/elimitate spikes in my bandwidth graphs?
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:27] <progma> jp10558: i just got that working
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:34] <cluther> zombor: Set Min/Max values on your data points.
[31-Jul-2007 15:30:44] <zombor> cluther: where can i do that?
[31-Jul-2007 15:31:06] <cluther> zombor: In each performance template there is a list of data sources. Inside each data source is a list (usually one) of data points.
[31-Jul-2007 15:31:42] * zombor looks
[31-Jul-2007 15:32:50] <progma> jp10558: i went to Classes -> Processes
[31-Jul-2007 15:32:51] <zombor> i just see "ifInErrors" as a data point for my ethernet graph
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[31-Jul-2007 15:33:23] <progma> jp10558: clicked the drop down for Processes then "Add Process", just typed in a regex like cron and saved it
[31-Jul-2007 15:33:41] <jp10558> mmm
[31-Jul-2007 15:33:48] <jp10558> I was thinking for Windows, like ntvdm
[31-Jul-2007 15:33:55] <progma> oh oh
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:08] <jp10558> Seems like there ought to be a way to do something with the winexe
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:11] <progma> snmpinformant
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:15] <jp10558> as it gets the full command line back
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:24] <cluther> jp10558: Actually, process monitoring works exactly the same on Windows as it does in Unix.
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:36] <cluther> jp10558: Even without informant.
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:38] <progma> that's hot
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:43] <jp10558> oh
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:49] <progma> cuz the free informant didn't give you much
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:51] <jp10558> so I just have to put in a process and it shows up?
[31-Jul-2007 15:34:59] <cluther> Unix and Windows both support the prTable MIB.
[31-Jul-2007 15:35:06] <jp10558> oh, wow
[31-Jul-2007 15:35:08] <cluther> jp10558: After you model the device, yes.
[31-Jul-2007 15:35:09] <jp10558> never knew it
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[31-Jul-2007 15:37:52] <cluther> Enterprise actually allows you to monitor arbitrary perf counters via DCOM which eliminates the need for Informant and gives you access to all kinds of stuff.
[31-Jul-2007 15:38:42] <jp10558> Nice - but far to expensive for my needs
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[31-Jul-2007 16:18:37] <dislo> hey guys on version 1.1 is there a way to ping through an entire network and add it to zenoss
[31-Jul-2007 16:21:08] <TheNick> I am looking for a little assistance with WMI, Cant quite get it to work
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[31-Jul-2007 16:29:06] <jp10558> TheNick
[31-Jul-2007 16:29:11] <jp10558> are you using v 2.0.3?
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[31-Jul-2007 16:32:22] <jp10558> Bulwinkle: hey! Any more luck with Kerberos plugins?
[31-Jul-2007 16:32:45] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: nope
[31-Jul-2007 16:33:55] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: and since I have no access to write to the LDAP structure, looks like I'm SOL
[31-Jul-2007 16:34:11] <jp10558> Unlucky
[31-Jul-2007 16:34:42] <jp10558> Well, I'm going to try and look at this some tomorrow but I'll need the input of my Linux guys
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:02] <jp10558> Of course, we don't even have LDAP, just kerberos auth as far as I know, so maybe this won't matter or just won't work
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:10] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: let me know if you get anywhere
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:24] <jp10558> sure
[31-Jul-2007 16:35:36] <Bulwinkle> really all I'm looking for it NT Authentication so, if you find that too I'll be interested
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:14] <cluther> Bulwinkle: You don't need to change the AD schema. However, you do need a schema master account so that you can do the appropriate lookups.
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:28] <TheNick> jp10558 - No I am on 2.0.2
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:34] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah, we don't have that
[31-Jul-2007 16:37:52] <Bulwinkle> cluther: network and domain services teams do not play well together
[31-Jul-2007 16:38:35] <Bulwinkle> on one positive note, I'm now running my laptop on 2.6.22 with CFS
[31-Jul-2007 16:38:39] <cluther> Bulwinkle: Shocker.
[31-Jul-2007 16:38:59] <Bulwinkle> cluther: yeah, we don't even do DNS ... we do DHCP but not DNS.... go figure
[31-Jul-2007 16:39:36] <Bulwinkle> cluther: we have $75k in DNS/DHCP appliances that are basically glorified DHCP servers
[31-Jul-2007 16:42:27] <progma> do they handle a lot of dns load
[31-Jul-2007 16:42:33] <progma> i.e. not just caching
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[31-Jul-2007 16:47:25] <pileofparts> Anybody know a simple was to get zenoss to monitor a service on an interface that is not the manage IP?
[31-Jul-2007 16:48:39] <pileofparts> In the IP Services section of the OS tab it shows "service tcp 34567 IP"
[31-Jul-2007 16:48:50] <pileofparts> IP being something that is not the manage IP.
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[31-Jul-2007 16:50:15] <dislo> hey guys on version 1.1 is there a way to ping through a subnet and add it to zenoss
[31-Jul-2007 16:56:01] <kickfliph> hi
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[31-Jul-2007 16:59:26] <pileofparts> Even though in the service description it has the right IP address to monitor it still only attempts to monitor the managed IP
[31-Jul-2007 16:59:34] <pileofparts> Anybod experience this before?
[31-Jul-2007 17:01:24] <cluther> pileofparts: Yes, unfortunately this is the only way it works. To monitor a different address, you'd need to set it up in a performance template using a COMMAND type data source. You could then use any of the Nagios plugins for specific services, or check_tcp for generic ones.
[31-Jul-2007 17:02:20] <pileofparts> That is too bad. As using the netstat -an it sees the IP and even has it listed in the service description.
[31-Jul-2007 17:02:39] <pileofparts> It wouldn't be too far off for it to acknowledge what interface the service was running on.
[31-Jul-2007 17:05:07] <kickfliph> if i dont have mysql running in localhost how can i do ?
[31-Jul-2007 17:07:02] <pileofparts> Are there any good how tos on creating the performance template?
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[31-Jul-2007 17:10:40] <agustinba> hi
[31-Jul-2007 17:11:06] <agustinba> I am having a problem with zenoss thershold, and I would like to know if someone else had that isssue.
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[31-Jul-2007 17:11:41] <agustinba> when I try to build a custom template with a value returned from an oid, that returns a number in string format
[31-Jul-2007 17:12:18] <agustinba> I cannot create the thershold , because no matter which max value I put in it, is always exceed
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[31-Jul-2007 17:59:49] <pileofparts> Anybody know where I can find a list of variables for use with commands? such as ${dev/manageIp}
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[31-Jul-2007 20:48:08] <eurowerke> hey all...
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:15] <eurowerke> can anyone see this?
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:31] <creiht> no
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:32] <creiht>
[31-Jul-2007 20:48:51] <pileofparts> Not me.
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:26] <eurowerke> ^_^
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:33] <eurowerke> I've had some probs with my firewall and IRC
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:42] <eurowerke> I *think*
[31-Jul-2007 20:53:53] <eurowerke> perhaps no one was around last time I tested, though
[31-Jul-2007 20:54:09] <eurowerke> I seem to be getting random cutouts in monitoring of my firewall
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[31-Jul-2007 20:54:24] <eurowerke> doesn't really seem to be particular intervals
[31-Jul-2007 20:55:17] <creiht> eurowerke: Does the system that is running zenoss incur high loads at that time?
[31-Jul-2007 20:56:00] <eurowerke> hrm...
[31-Jul-2007 20:56:13] <eurowerke> one sec, checking consistency of the interfaces
[31-Jul-2007 20:56:19] <eurowerke> to see if all interfaces check out at same time
[31-Jul-2007 20:58:44] <eurowerke> it cut out on one interface at about 4:30 Monday
[31-Jul-2007 20:58:52] <eurowerke> didn't come back up until about 3:30a tuesday
[31-Jul-2007 20:59:06] <eurowerke> each interface of the firewall is one vlan
[31-Jul-2007 20:59:12] <eurowerke> physical interface
[31-Jul-2007 20:59:20] <eurowerke> the other interfaces don't show the dropout
[31-Jul-2007 21:00:18] <creiht> Any possible loss of network connectivity to that device?
[31-Jul-2007 21:02:44] <KernelPanik> in my dashboard I see a computer down, but I can't clear it, although its not down anymore, any ideas anyone?
[31-Jul-2007 21:03:43] <eurowerke> wouldn't the monitor show just a baseline graph with no activity in that case?
[31-Jul-2007 21:03:47] <eurowerke> this just drops out...
[31-Jul-2007 21:04:09] <KernelPanik> anyone?
[31-Jul-2007 21:04:19] <eurowerke> it's almost a 12 hour gap
[31-Jul-2007 21:05:22] <eurowerke> no way the network would be out for that long
[31-Jul-2007 21:06:44] <eurowerke> Kernel: I had some similar situation, but I can't remember what I did to fix it ... :-/
[31-Jul-2007 21:06:53] <eurowerke> dashboard showed an event
[31-Jul-2007 21:06:58] <eurowerke> but when I went into /Events
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:00] <eurowerke> nothing showed
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:05] <eurowerke> maybe I just restarted the server...
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:06] <eurowerke> heh
[31-Jul-2007 21:07:45] <KernelPanik> maybe restarting the service might hlep, let me try
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:03] <eurowerke> no idea creiht?
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:12] <eurowerke> about my prob?
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:23] <eurowerke> http://www.brianruiz.net/images/dropout.JPG
[31-Jul-2007 21:09:41] <creiht> eurowerke: Sorry... got distracted
[31-Jul-2007 21:10:01] <creiht> Do you see any events for that time if you click on the history tab?
[31-Jul-2007 21:10:10] <creiht> for that device
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:03] <KernelPanik> ok so how do we restart zenoss service
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:13] <KernelPanik> service zenoss restart? on redhat
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:17] <eurowerke> su to zenoss user
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:24] <eurowerke> zenoss restart
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:39] <eurowerke> I assume that's same on all distros
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:46] <eurowerke> creiht: nope
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:47] <eurowerke> this was last monday
[31-Jul-2007 21:12:54] <KernelPanik> kewl, thanks
[31-Jul-2007 21:13:03] <eurowerke> it only shows history from yesterday and today
[31-Jul-2007 21:13:22] <creiht> eurowerke: You should be able to set the date filter at the top
[31-Jul-2007 21:13:34] <creiht> So you can have it show events from last monday
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:11] <eurowerke> OH!
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:17] <eurowerke> it does show same thing on other interfaces
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:25] <eurowerke> d0h duhhh
[31-Jul-2007 21:14:51] <KernelPanik> it's asking for a password when stopping, what password is that?
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:21] <eurowerke> nope
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:25] <eurowerke> no errors in history
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:28] <creiht> KernelPanik: Most likely the zenoss user password
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:41] <KernelPanik> hum....
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:42] <KernelPanik> ok
[31-Jul-2007 21:15:43] <eurowerke> only notifications of exceeding thresholds
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:18] <creiht> eurowerke: hrmm... Well I'm not sure
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:25] <creiht> Something was preventing it from getting the data
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:34] <eurowerke> although
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:36] <eurowerke> interesting
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:39] <creiht> Was the device overloaded at that point, so it didn't return the snmp data?
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:47] <eurowerke> the last error showing is a restore of under threshold level
[31-Jul-2007 21:16:56] <eurowerke> just after noon on monday
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:05] <eurowerke> next error is at 10am tues morning
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:09] <eurowerke> with a count of 39
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:15] <KernelPanik> creiht: btw, where is that password stored, is this the linux user password??
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:37] <eurowerke> Kernel: it's in the database, AFAIK
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:50] <eurowerke> or is it the same as the zope password...
[31-Jul-2007 21:17:59] <eurowerke> eh
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:04] <eurowerke> I'm a noob to this thing
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:17] <creiht> KernelPanik: Ues the linux user password, as it is probably trying to sudo to do a certain command
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:55] <eurowerke> so it does appear that data is getting logged back then suddenly exploding out
[31-Jul-2007 21:18:55] <KernelPanik> yep
[31-Jul-2007 21:19:05] <KernelPanik> I guess I never set a password for that user
[31-Jul-2007 21:19:30] <eurowerke> so that gap in time between errors spans the whole length of the outage
[31-Jul-2007 21:19:41] <eurowerke> and then some
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[31-Jul-2007 21:22:18] <eurowerke> is there some definitive way to tell if the device was overloaded?
[31-Jul-2007 21:22:26] <eurowerke> overloaded -> network, processing, ?
[31-Jul-2007 21:22:31] <eurowerke> all of the above?
[31-Jul-2007 21:22:59] <eurowerke> it *is* running on a virtual server...
[31-Jul-2007 21:25:20] <creiht> eurowerke: Look at the perf graph?
[31-Jul-2007 21:25:30] <creiht> Check the load average and memory usage
[31-Jul-2007 21:27:31] <eurowerke> those drop out too
[31-Jul-2007 21:28:44] <eurowerke> this is weird
[31-Jul-2007 21:29:05] <eurowerke> do the logs show when the server was started up/stopped?
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:15] <eurowerke> aye
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:33] <eurowerke> the logs have entries one per minute
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:44] <eurowerke> ?
[31-Jul-2007 21:31:49] <eurowerke> dang
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:32] <eurowerke> ack I better get going
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:43] <eurowerke> gotta get home a feed the dog before she starves
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:44] <eurowerke> !
[31-Jul-2007 21:32:51] <eurowerke> thanks creiht
[31-Jul-2007 21:34:02] <creiht> eurowerke: hehe... np
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[31-Jul-2007 23:13:44] <jcims> hey folks, autodiscovery appears to be hammered in 2.0.3 vmware image, true?
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:05] <solarce> ball pean or rubber mallet?
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:29] <jcims> i'd say rubber mallet
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:44] <jcims> seems to be they changed it to make it more friendly for the web interface
[31-Jul-2007 23:14:52] <jcims> but in the process broke it
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:00] <solarce> doh
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:12] <solarce> this is why I never upgrade
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:21] <jcims> it could be specific to the vmware image that they provide, i haven't tried to do a build on a full os
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:27] <jcims> er..you konw
[31-Jul-2007 23:15:30] <jcims> know even
[31-Jul-2007 23:16:05] <jcims> it's the first i've used it though, overall pretty happy with it...but the autodiscovery would make life a lot easier
[31-Jul-2007 23:16:32] <solarce> yes, snmp only goes so far anyway, I think nmap is a better tool, to bad they can't redistribute it
[31-Jul-2007 23:17:36] <jcims> is there a way to just import a list of ip addresses?
[31-Jul-2007 23:17:44] <jcims> e.g. feed from nmap?
[31-Jul-2007 23:18:10] <solarce> not directly, I think that converting nmap xml to zenoss xml will be the way to go about it
[31-Jul-2007 23:18:46] <solarce> mind you I haven't had time to do anything, my 2.0 vm sits in the corner watching my pix and nothing else :/
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:15] <solarce> I contribute by lurking and cracking jokes
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:39] <jcims> nothing wrong with that!
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:49] <jcims> is the zenoss xml fairly straightforward/
[31-Jul-2007 23:19:51] <jcims> ?
[31-Jul-2007 23:20:13] <solarce> i hope so ;-)
[31-Jul-2007 23:20:30] <solarce> me a programmer, not so much
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[31-Jul-2007 23:57:35] <redone> Question: Has anyone ever seen 'AgentProxy' object has no attribute 'walk' on a model operation?
