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[09:59] * Topic for #zenoss is: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, Sept. 11 at 11am EDT
[09:59] * Topic for #zenoss set by mrayzenoss at Mon Sep 8 10:27:20 2008
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[09:59] mrayzenoss Good morning everybody
[09:59] bedwards hello
[10:00] mrayzenoss bedwards and I are here to answer your questions this morning
[10:00] mrayzenoss There may be a few other Zenoss lurkers, hopefully they'll chip in
[10:00] can_jafo Morning.
[10:01] can_jafo I've just started testing Zenoss this week so it's still totally new to me.
[10:01] can_jafo Is there a fix for the WMI RPC_S_CALL_FAILED events?
[10:02] can_jafo or am I in the wrong place for these type of questions?
[10:02] mrayzenoss are you referrring to a ticket?
[10:02] mrayzenoss no, this is the right place
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[10:03] can_jafo I'm looking at this forum thread:
[10:03] can_jafo http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16603#16603
[10:03] can_jafo But there's no firewall between my Zenoss box and the windows box.
[10:03] adytum-bot Title: Forums :: View topic - Stopped Zenwin not shown in Zenoss Issues on Dashboard (at community.zenoss.com)
[10:03] mrayzenoss Is this against Vista?
[10:04] can_jafo No it's Win2k server.
[10:05] mrayzenoss there are a bunch of windows fixes going into 2.2.4, which is about to go out
[10:05] mrayzenoss are you running 2.2.3?
[10:05] cgibbons can_jafo: have you tried using the wmic command manually to see if connectivity between your zenoss host & the box in question is OK? (if not I can describe)
[10:06] can_jafo yeah, I'm running 2.2.3
[10:06] can_jafo cgibbons: nope.
[10:06] can_jafo zenwinmodeler run -v 10 ends with the following output:
[10:06] can_jafo DEBUG:zen.zenwinmodeler:Wmi Probs ['lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca']
[10:06] can_jafo WARNING:zen.zenwinmodeler:skipping lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca has bad wmi state
[10:07] cgibbons k, it's easy to do. try this: $ZENHOME/bin/wmic -U yourusername%yourpassword //yourhostname 'select * from win32_computersystem'
[10:07] cgibbons yeah, once it gets an error it'll put the device into a bad state (deliberately) until you go manually clear it, at least for now. that command will tell us if the low-level connectivity is there or if there is something higher level going on.
[10:07] Sain0rs I thought the WMI calls only working on Windows XP/2003+
[10:07] Sain0rs er, only worked on
[10:07] cgibbons there are some issues with Windows 2000 & WMI modeling, even though the low level stuff works okay (exactly Sain0rs)
[10:08] can_jafo cgibbons: I don't have a wmic binary in $ZENHOME/bin
[10:08] cgibbons hurm, might be somewhere else depending upon what type of install you have. appliance? stack? source?
[10:08] can_jafo It's possible this is an issue on the Windows site too. I don't admin that box, I'm a Unix guy.
[10:09] can_jafo cgibbons: *gah* it was common/bin
[10:09] cgibbons yeah... sounds like a stack
[10:09] can_jafo I don't have credentials for the windows box though.
[10:11] can_jafo Sorry, I don't even know what WMI is, I'm just trying to eliminate the event so it doesn't show up on the dashboard.
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[10:11] can_jafo Do the admin credentials for the windows box have to be configured in Zenoss?
[10:12] cgibbons yeah
[10:12] can_jafo cgibbons: well that would be my problem then (doh).
[10:12] Sain0rs if possible you might try and ask them to install SNMP Informant on that Windows machine and collect data via SNMP instead of WMI
[10:12] cgibbons WMI is called Windows Management Instrumentation; if you've ever heard of CIM (Common Information Model) then it's Microsoft's implementation of it. short story is it uses a set of DCOM classes that are called via DCE/RPC to pull back management data.
[10:13] mrayzenoss if you want to get rid of the events, at the zProperties, set zWmiMonitorIgnore = True
[10:13] cgibbons (and the good news is we're working hard on making all of this remote Windows monitoring a lot more robust right now)
[10:14] can_jafo But I can accomplish the same thing with SNMP? Im' sure the windows admins won't be keen on giving me admin access to their boxes.
[10:14] cgibbons you can probably get all that you need via SNMP if they enable it on the servers you need.
[10:14] can_jafo Yes they have.
[10:15] mrayzenoss So speaking of Windows monitoring...
[10:16] mrayzenoss We're going to be adding a new "zenoss-windows" forum just for monitoring Windows discussions
[10:16] cgibbons yippie!
[10:16] can_jafo Excellent.
[10:16] mrayzenoss there seems to be a bit too much traffic on zenoss-users, so we'll try to spread it out a bit
[10:16] can_jafo I'm trying to convince management to use Zenoss as opposed to Openview.
[10:16] mrayzenoss they'll save a bit of money
[10:16] can_jafo So if I can get this stable and useful before the openview pilot I"m laughing.
[10:17] can_jafo 1 more question.
[10:17] mrayzenoss sure
[10:17] can_jafo I"m getting lots of "/Perf/Snmp" Error reading value for X (oid xxxxxx is bad) events.
[10:18] can_jafo Does that mean Zenoss is looking for an OID that the server doesn't have or have I not enabled something on the servers I want to monitor?
[10:19] can_jafo Example from a sun box:
[10:19] can_jafo Error reading value for "memBuffer" on bat.lhsc.on.ca (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
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[10:20] * daMaestro is a little late
[10:20] daMaestro any developers still around?
[10:20] can_jafo daMaestro: yup
[10:20] can_jafo (not me)
[10:21] daMaestro cool, i was wondering if i should be developing patch sets against trunk? or?
[10:21] mrayzenoss we're here, looking for the right answer to his question
[10:21] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:21] can_jafo mrayzenoss: thanks.
[10:21] mrayzenoss daMaestro: what are you patching?
[10:21] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i'm sick of sendString not being able to have \n
[10:21] bedwards can_jafo: can you do snmpwalk on that oid
[10:21] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:21] daMaestro mrayzenoss, it's impossible to implement HTTP/1.1 requests
[10:22] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:22] mrayzenoss daMaestro: is there a ticket?
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[10:22] daMaestro mrayzenoss, from a long time ago, with a poor patch set (IMHO)
[10:22] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i was going to just develop a patch set and submit it as a bug
[10:22] mrayzenoss ok, let me find it and I'll walk you through getting a patch in and on our radar
[10:22] mrayzenoss that works too
[10:23] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i can do the patch set ;-)
[10:23] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i just want to know if i should do it against trunk or against the 2.2.3 release?
[10:23] mrayzenoss at this point, Trunk
[10:23] mrayzenoss it has to be a blocker to get applied to 2.2.X
[10:23] mrayzenoss 2.2.4 is frozen and about to come out
[10:23] daMaestro http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/2489
[10:24] mrayzenoss 2.3 goes to beta in 2 weeks
[10:24] can_jafo grr... trying to get snmpwalk syntax. one sec.
[10:24] mrayzenoss so the window for 2.2.x is closing
[10:24] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:25] mrayzenoss daMaestro: Is that your ticket?
[10:25] krphop is there anyway to change the fonts that are used in the RRD's, but only for particular users?
[10:25] daMaestro mrayzenoss, no.. just something i foudn
[10:25] bedwards can_jafo: you can do snmpwalk from the web ui on the device page, page menu, run commands
[10:25] daMaestro found*
[10:25] cgibbons okay, I just checked.. the fixes we had for Windows 2000 WMI modeling aren't in the 2.2.x branches, just in the trunk. so that's coming in a later release.
[10:25] can_jafo snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic bat.lhsc.on.ca .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
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[10:26] can_jafo just returns with no output
[10:26] can_jafo bedwards: can I pass the OID to the web UI?
[10:26] jp105581 Hi Zenoss Dev's!
[10:26] mrayzenoss daMaestro: so open a new ticket: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket and put patch in there
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[10:27] mrayzenoss daMaestro: and add the "contribute" keyword
[10:27] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i will (and i know how to open tickets) ;-)
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[10:27] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i just wanted to know what i should develop against
[10:27] daMaestro mrayzenoss, also.. is there a zenoss buildout anywhere?
[10:27] mrayzenoss daMaestro: ok, over kill
[10:27] bedwards can_jafo: nope, just system, so command line is your only option
[10:27] mrayzenoss buildout?
[10:27] can_jafo bedwards: ya, I'm getting no output from snmpwalk on the command line.
[10:28] can_jafo bedwards: does that mean I need to configure net-snmp to recognize that OID then?
[10:28] daMaestro mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout\
[10:28] daMaestro mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout
[10:28] adytum-bot Title: Python Package Index : zc.buildout 1.1.1 (at pypi.python.org)
[10:29] daMaestro mrayzenoss, it would make developing for zenoss much easier
[10:29] bedwards can_jafo: there is no problem with the net-snmp client recognizing that OID
[10:29] mrayzenoss daMaestro: we would like to make our builds easier
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[10:29] mrayzenoss I'll mention it to dev, see what Ian thinks
[10:29] bedwards can_jafo: it appears that the server isn't sending anything back for that OID
[10:29] daMaestro mrayzenoss, good.. use buildouts. ;-) it's the standard zope way to do things (and it's what we use with plone)
[10:29] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i'm also going to be working on a plugin for webmetrics
[10:30] mrayzenoss cool
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[10:30] can_jafo bedwards: I get the same alert for a fwe OIDs on the windows boxes too.
[10:30] cgibbons welcome Chet
[10:30] mrayzenoss daMaestro: Ian thinks Buildout is good stuff, we're looking at it for some stuff already
[10:30] can_jafo So they're safe to ignore then?
[10:31] mrayzenoss jmp242: Greetings
[10:31] mrayzenoss krphop: I don't know about changing the fonts on RRD, I'll look into tthat
[10:32] mrayzenoss krphop: particular users might be an issue
[10:33] krphop mrayzenoss: basically, i have one user that just uses a multigraph dashboard thats created, and I'd like that user to use slightly smaller fonts for the RRD's
[10:33] jmp242 hi mrayzenoss
[10:33] jmp242 how's it going?
[10:34] mrayzenoss pretty good. We've got 3 Zenoss devs in the channel and me.
[10:34] jmp242 cool - any info on release of 2.2.4?
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[10:36] bedwards can_jafo: that OID is for Total RAM Buffered
[10:36] mrayzenoss So I went down to the configuration manager's office and asked about the state of 2.2.4
[10:36] daMaestro mrayzenoss, recommendation: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ add (on the front page) how to checkout the source
[10:36] mrayzenoss we have 1 blocker that is being actively worked on (probably fixed today)
[10:37] mrayzenoss a day to build and 2 days of testing, so probably Monday
[10:37] mrayzenoss a pre-release of 2.2.4 slipped into rPath accidentally and was available to appliance users, don't use it!
[10:37] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:38] can_jafo bedwards: so I need to figure out how to get net-snmp to return a value for that OID then?
[10:38] mrayzenoss daMaestro: ok, noted
[10:39] can_jafo bedwards: i'm having the same issue with OID .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 on the windows boxes so I"m getting no CPU data for them.
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[10:40] daMaestro mrayzenoss, is the standard patch set just a gendiff from trunk?
[10:41] jmp242 no, I don't use the VMWare appliance
[10:41] jmp242 I hope to get to try out 2.2.4 if it's out sometime next week, as I haven't upgraded since 2.1.2
[10:44] mrayzenoss daMaestro: yeah, that works
[10:45] mrayzenoss jmp242: a lot of work has been done on migrating 2.1->2.2.4, so that should be good
[10:46] jmp242 That will make me a happy ZenMaster lol!
[10:47] can_jafo Where can I set the thresholds for triggering events on things like disk space and network interface utilization?
[10:47] bedwards can_jafo: other OIDs are working, correct?
[10:47] can_jafo bedwards: Yup, I'm collecting data from the Sun and Windows boxes but a few OIDs are failing on each platform.
[10:49] can_jafo bedwards: I just read a posting in the forum about needing NMP Informant
[10:49] can_jafo extension for Windows
[10:49] jmp242 If you use built in Zenoss Windows, you need SNMP Informant
[10:49] jmp242 you can use the WMI zenpack(s)
[10:49] jmp242 and avoid SNMP Informant
[10:49] jmp242 or perfmon too, if you configure it right IIRC
[10:49] can_jafo bedwards: so that may be my problem on the windows side but net-snmp on the Sun boxes is the bundled Solaris 10 net-snmp.
[10:50] can_jafo jmp242: But I need administrative credentials for the boxes to use WMI and the windows guys likely won't go for that.
[10:50] jmp242 what about Perfmon?
[10:50] jmp242 well, time for lunch
[10:51] can_jafo Thanks for the help everyone.
[10:52] can_jafo I've already accomplished more with Zenoss than two consultant lead Openview projects here so it's looking really promising.
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[10:56] mrayzenoss krphop: There's a section of the Admin Guide that covers RRD configuration
[10:57] mrayzenoss krphop: 7.1.1 in the "Format" section you can set the font, but you won't be able to change it for particular users
[10:57] mrayzenoss krphop: just for particular graphs
[10:59] krphop mrayzenoss: ok, any plans to have a configurable variable per user in the future?
[11:00] mrayzenoss krphop: I don't think so, but you can open a ticket as an enhancement and we'll address it
[11:00] mrayzenoss we've been making a lot of progress lately on the ticket backlog
[11:00] mrayzenoss streamlining the process and whatnot
[11:01] mrayzenoss so new tickets will get addressed a lot sooner
[11:01] mrayzenoss we might not fix it, but it won't be put into limbo
[11:02] krphop ok, cool, thanks
[11:02] mrayzenoss bedwards has to get going, so we're going to wrap the session up shortly
[11:03] mrayzenoss but we're making this a fixture on the development calendar, so we'll be here for sure every 2 weeks, and at other random times as well
[11:04] mrayzenoss and as always, the forums are an active discussion venue for support and we'll be adding zenoss-windows soon
[09:59] * Topic for #zenoss is: Zenoss Dev will be here Thursday, Sept. 11 at 11am EDT
[09:59] * Topic for #zenoss set by mrayzenoss at Mon Sep 8 10:27:20 2008
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[09:59] mrayzenoss Good morning everybody
[09:59] bedwards hello
[10:00] mrayzenoss bedwards and I are here to answer your questions this morning
[10:00] mrayzenoss There may be a few other Zenoss lurkers, hopefully they'll chip in
[10:00] can_jafo Morning.
[10:01] can_jafo I've just started testing Zenoss this week so it's still totally new to me.
[10:01] can_jafo Is there a fix for the WMI RPC_S_CALL_FAILED events?
[10:02] can_jafo or am I in the wrong place for these type of questions?
[10:02] mrayzenoss are you referrring to a ticket?
[10:02] mrayzenoss no, this is the right place
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[10:03] can_jafo I'm looking at this forum thread:
[10:03] can_jafo http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16603#16603
[10:03] can_jafo But there's no firewall between my Zenoss box and the windows box.
[10:03] adytum-bot Title: Forums :: View topic - Stopped Zenwin not shown in Zenoss Issues on Dashboard (at community.zenoss.com)
[10:03] mrayzenoss Is this against Vista?
[10:04] can_jafo No it's Win2k server.
[10:05] mrayzenoss there are a bunch of windows fixes going into 2.2.4, which is about to go out
[10:05] mrayzenoss are you running 2.2.3?
[10:05] cgibbons can_jafo: have you tried using the wmic command manually to see if connectivity between your zenoss host & the box in question is OK? (if not I can describe)
[10:06] can_jafo yeah, I'm running 2.2.3
[10:06] can_jafo cgibbons: nope.
[10:06] can_jafo zenwinmodeler run -v 10 ends with the following output:
[10:06] can_jafo DEBUG:zen.zenwinmodeler:Wmi Probs ['lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca']
[10:06] can_jafo WARNING:zen.zenwinmodeler:skipping lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca has bad wmi state
[10:07] cgibbons k, it's easy to do. try this: $ZENHOME/bin/wmic -U yourusername%yourpassword //yourhostname 'select * from win32_computersystem'
[10:07] cgibbons yeah, once it gets an error it'll put the device into a bad state (deliberately) until you go manually clear it, at least for now. that command will tell us if the low-level connectivity is there or if there is something higher level going on.
[10:07] Sain0rs I thought the WMI calls only working on Windows XP/2003+
[10:07] Sain0rs er, only worked on
[10:07] cgibbons there are some issues with Windows 2000 & WMI modeling, even though the low level stuff works okay (exactly Sain0rs)
[10:08] can_jafo cgibbons: I don't have a wmic binary in $ZENHOME/bin
[10:08] cgibbons hurm, might be somewhere else depending upon what type of install you have. appliance? stack? source?
[10:08] can_jafo It's possible this is an issue on the Windows site too. I don't admin that box, I'm a Unix guy.
[10:09] can_jafo cgibbons: *gah* it was common/bin
[10:09] cgibbons yeah... sounds like a stack
[10:09] can_jafo I don't have credentials for the windows box though.
[10:11] can_jafo Sorry, I don't even know what WMI is, I'm just trying to eliminate the event so it doesn't show up on the dashboard.
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[10:11] can_jafo Do the admin credentials for the windows box have to be configured in Zenoss?
[10:12] cgibbons yeah
[10:12] can_jafo cgibbons: well that would be my problem then (doh).
[10:12] Sain0rs if possible you might try and ask them to install SNMP Informant on that Windows machine and collect data via SNMP instead of WMI
[10:12] cgibbons WMI is called Windows Management Instrumentation; if you've ever heard of CIM (Common Information Model) then it's Microsoft's implementation of it. short story is it uses a set of DCOM classes that are called via DCE/RPC to pull back management data.
[10:13] mrayzenoss if you want to get rid of the events, at the zProperties, set zWmiMonitorIgnore = True
[10:13] cgibbons (and the good news is we're working hard on making all of this remote Windows monitoring a lot more robust right now)
[10:14] can_jafo But I can accomplish the same thing with SNMP? Im' sure the windows admins won't be keen on giving me admin access to their boxes.
[10:14] cgibbons you can probably get all that you need via SNMP if they enable it on the servers you need.
[10:14] can_jafo Yes they have.
[10:15] mrayzenoss So speaking of Windows monitoring...
[10:16] mrayzenoss We're going to be adding a new "zenoss-windows" forum just for monitoring Windows discussions
[10:16] cgibbons yippie!
[10:16] can_jafo Excellent.
[10:16] mrayzenoss there seems to be a bit too much traffic on zenoss-users, so we'll try to spread it out a bit
[10:16] can_jafo I'm trying to convince management to use Zenoss as opposed to Openview.
[10:16] mrayzenoss they'll save a bit of money
[10:16] can_jafo So if I can get this stable and useful before the openview pilot I"m laughing.
[10:17] can_jafo 1 more question.
[10:17] mrayzenoss sure
[10:17] can_jafo I"m getting lots of "/Perf/Snmp" Error reading value for X (oid xxxxxx is bad) events.
[10:18] can_jafo Does that mean Zenoss is looking for an OID that the server doesn't have or have I not enabled something on the servers I want to monitor?
[10:19] can_jafo Example from a sun box:
[10:19] can_jafo Error reading value for "memBuffer" on bat.lhsc.on.ca (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
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[10:20] * daMaestro is a little late
[10:20] daMaestro any developers still around?
[10:20] can_jafo daMaestro: yup
[10:20] can_jafo (not me)
[10:21] daMaestro cool, i was wondering if i should be developing patch sets against trunk? or?
[10:21] mrayzenoss we're here, looking for the right answer to his question
[10:21] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:21] can_jafo mrayzenoss: thanks.
[10:21] mrayzenoss daMaestro: what are you patching?
[10:21] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i'm sick of sendString not being able to have \n
[10:21] bedwards can_jafo: can you do snmpwalk on that oid
[10:21] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:21] daMaestro mrayzenoss, it's impossible to implement HTTP/1.1 requests
[10:22] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:22] mrayzenoss daMaestro: is there a ticket?
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[10:22] daMaestro mrayzenoss, from a long time ago, with a poor patch set (IMHO)
[10:22] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i was going to just develop a patch set and submit it as a bug
[10:22] mrayzenoss ok, let me find it and I'll walk you through getting a patch in and on our radar
[10:22] mrayzenoss that works too
[10:23] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i can do the patch set ;-)
[10:23] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i just want to know if i should do it against trunk or against the 2.2.3 release?
[10:23] mrayzenoss at this point, Trunk
[10:23] mrayzenoss it has to be a blocker to get applied to 2.2.X
[10:23] mrayzenoss 2.2.4 is frozen and about to come out
[10:23] daMaestro http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/2489
[10:24] mrayzenoss 2.3 goes to beta in 2 weeks
[10:24] can_jafo grr... trying to get snmpwalk syntax. one sec.
[10:24] mrayzenoss so the window for 2.2.x is closing
[10:24] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:25] mrayzenoss daMaestro: Is that your ticket?
[10:25] krphop is there anyway to change the fonts that are used in the RRD's, but only for particular users?
[10:25] daMaestro mrayzenoss, no.. just something i foudn
[10:25] bedwards can_jafo: you can do snmpwalk from the web ui on the device page, page menu, run commands
[10:25] daMaestro found*
[10:25] cgibbons okay, I just checked.. the fixes we had for Windows 2000 WMI modeling aren't in the 2.2.x branches, just in the trunk. so that's coming in a later release.
[10:25] can_jafo snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic bat.lhsc.on.ca .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
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[10:26] can_jafo just returns with no output
[10:26] can_jafo bedwards: can I pass the OID to the web UI?
[10:26] jp105581 Hi Zenoss Dev's!
[10:26] mrayzenoss daMaestro: so open a new ticket: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket and put patch in there
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[10:27] mrayzenoss daMaestro: and add the "contribute" keyword
[10:27] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i will (and i know how to open tickets) ;-)
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[10:27] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i just wanted to know what i should develop against
[10:27] daMaestro mrayzenoss, also.. is there a zenoss buildout anywhere?
[10:27] mrayzenoss daMaestro: ok, over kill
[10:27] bedwards can_jafo: nope, just system, so command line is your only option
[10:27] mrayzenoss buildout?
[10:27] can_jafo bedwards: ya, I'm getting no output from snmpwalk on the command line.
[10:28] can_jafo bedwards: does that mean I need to configure net-snmp to recognize that OID then?
[10:28] daMaestro mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout\
[10:28] daMaestro mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout
[10:28] adytum-bot Title: Python Package Index : zc.buildout 1.1.1 (at pypi.python.org)
[10:29] daMaestro mrayzenoss, it would make developing for zenoss much easier
[10:29] bedwards can_jafo: there is no problem with the net-snmp client recognizing that OID
[10:29] mrayzenoss daMaestro: we would like to make our builds easier
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[10:29] mrayzenoss I'll mention it to dev, see what Ian thinks
[10:29] bedwards can_jafo: it appears that the server isn't sending anything back for that OID
[10:29] daMaestro mrayzenoss, good.. use buildouts. ;-) it's the standard zope way to do things (and it's what we use with plone)
[10:29] daMaestro mrayzenoss, i'm also going to be working on a plugin for webmetrics
[10:30] mrayzenoss cool
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[10:30] can_jafo bedwards: I get the same alert for a fwe OIDs on the windows boxes too.
[10:30] cgibbons welcome Chet
[10:30] mrayzenoss daMaestro: Ian thinks Buildout is good stuff, we're looking at it for some stuff already
[10:30] can_jafo So they're safe to ignore then?
[10:31] mrayzenoss jmp242: Greetings
[10:31] mrayzenoss krphop: I don't know about changing the fonts on RRD, I'll look into tthat
[10:32] mrayzenoss krphop: particular users might be an issue
[10:33] krphop mrayzenoss: basically, i have one user that just uses a multigraph dashboard thats created, and I'd like that user to use slightly smaller fonts for the RRD's
[10:33] jmp242 hi mrayzenoss
[10:33] jmp242 how's it going?
[10:34] mrayzenoss pretty good. We've got 3 Zenoss devs in the channel and me.
[10:34] jmp242 cool - any info on release of 2.2.4?
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[10:36] bedwards can_jafo: that OID is for Total RAM Buffered
[10:36] mrayzenoss So I went down to the configuration manager's office and asked about the state of 2.2.4
[10:36] daMaestro mrayzenoss, recommendation: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ add (on the front page) how to checkout the source
[10:36] mrayzenoss we have 1 blocker that is being actively worked on (probably fixed today)
[10:37] mrayzenoss a day to build and 2 days of testing, so probably Monday
[10:37] mrayzenoss a pre-release of 2.2.4 slipped into rPath accidentally and was available to appliance users, don't use it!
[10:37] daMaestro DarylVOIP
[10:38] can_jafo bedwards: so I need to figure out how to get net-snmp to return a value for that OID then?
[10:38] mrayzenoss daMaestro: ok, noted
[10:39] can_jafo bedwards: i'm having the same issue with OID .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 on the windows boxes so I"m getting no CPU data for them.
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[10:40] daMaestro mrayzenoss, is the standard patch set just a gendiff from trunk?
[10:41] jmp242 no, I don't use the VMWare appliance
[10:41] jmp242 I hope to get to try out 2.2.4 if it's out sometime next week, as I haven't upgraded since 2.1.2
[10:44] mrayzenoss daMaestro: yeah, that works
[10:45] mrayzenoss jmp242: a lot of work has been done on migrating 2.1->2.2.4, so that should be good
[10:46] jmp242 That will make me a happy ZenMaster lol!
[10:47] can_jafo Where can I set the thresholds for triggering events on things like disk space and network interface utilization?
[10:47] bedwards can_jafo: other OIDs are working, correct?
[10:47] can_jafo bedwards: Yup, I'm collecting data from the Sun and Windows boxes but a few OIDs are failing on each platform.
[10:49] can_jafo bedwards: I just read a posting in the forum about needing NMP Informant
[10:49] can_jafo extension for Windows
[10:49] jmp242 If you use built in Zenoss Windows, you need SNMP Informant
[10:49] jmp242 you can use the WMI zenpack(s)
[10:49] jmp242 and avoid SNMP Informant
[10:49] jmp242 or perfmon too, if you configure it right IIRC
[10:49] can_jafo bedwards: so that may be my problem on the windows side but net-snmp on the Sun boxes is the bundled Solaris 10 net-snmp.
[10:50] can_jafo jmp242: But I need administrative credentials for the boxes to use WMI and the windows guys likely won't go for that.
[10:50] jmp242 what about Perfmon?
[10:50] jmp242 well, time for lunch
[10:51] can_jafo Thanks for the help everyone.
[10:52] can_jafo I've already accomplished more with Zenoss than two consultant lead Openview projects here so it's looking really promising.
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[10:56] mrayzenoss krphop: There's a section of the Admin Guide that covers RRD configuration
[10:57] mrayzenoss krphop: 7.1.1 in the "Format" section you can set the font, but you won't be able to change it for particular users
[10:57] mrayzenoss krphop: just for particular graphs
[10:59] krphop mrayzenoss: ok, any plans to have a configurable variable per user in the future?
[11:00] mrayzenoss krphop: I don't think so, but you can open a ticket as an enhancement and we'll address it
[11:00] mrayzenoss we've been making a lot of progress lately on the ticket backlog
[11:00] mrayzenoss streamlining the process and whatnot
[11:01] mrayzenoss so new tickets will get addressed a lot sooner
[11:01] mrayzenoss we might not fix it, but it won't be put into limbo
[11:02] krphop ok, cool, thanks
[11:02] mrayzenoss bedwards has to get going, so we're going to wrap the session up shortly
[11:03] mrayzenoss but we're making this a fixture on the development calendar, so we'll be here for sure every 2 weeks, and at other random times as well
[11:04] mrayzenoss and as always, the forums are an active discussion venue for support and we'll be adding zenoss-windows soon
