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[01-May-2008 01:33:03] <cgibbons> hurm
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[01-May-2008 13:31:16] <zenops> I saw a post in the forums about resolving port scan, please search the forums
[01-May-2008 13:31:52] <zenops> Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
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[01-May-2008 15:04:14] <masaghi> hi all
[01-May-2008 15:04:19] <_chris_> hello
[01-May-2008 15:10:34] <idea4gud> hi guys i am trying to monitor Disk space and Memory usage what process parameter should i setup for my windows machine
[01-May-2008 15:11:51] <masaghi> Hi everybody, I need to get an SNMP table and show it on Zenoss. please assist.
[01-May-2008 15:16:34] <idea4gud> magnachef u there?
[01-May-2008 15:17:14] <_chris_> masaghi: maybe this would work better if you described what you have tried so far
[01-May-2008 15:25:32] <masaghi> I want to get list of users logged in a linux server.
[01-May-2008 15:25:49] <masaghi> So I want to use net-snmp to get a defined OID and return the list
[01-May-2008 15:26:06] <masaghi> I don't know better solution. I think I can do this by using command instead of SNMP. but I dont' know how!
[01-May-2008 15:26:20] <masaghi>  could you please help me!
[01-May-2008 15:33:27] <masaghi> is there anyone here helping me?
[01-May-2008 15:35:55] <_chris_> maybe your question is better suited for the forums.
[01-May-2008 15:36:45] <masaghi> thanks a lot for your consideration
[01-May-2008 15:37:34] <masaghi> I have another question: Zenhub daemon on my server stops without any log!!!!
[01-May-2008 15:38:27] <masaghi> It starts at the beginning and stops after a second!
[01-May-2008 15:38:57] <masaghi> It was working fine and now I have this problem with it
[01-May-2008 15:44:06] <mray> masaghi: I think this works: zenhub run -v10
[01-May-2008 15:44:19] <mray> that'll keep it in the foreground with extra debugging
[01-May-2008 15:49:11] <idea4gud> how can i monitor disk and memory space
[01-May-2008 15:51:48] <_chris_> idea4gud: disk and memory information is returned by SNMP agents. if you model a device you should get that information automatically.
[01-May-2008 15:53:13] <idea4gud> i just the enter the device ip adress
[01-May-2008 15:53:30] <idea4gud> do i need to change in perf parameter like in setting
[01-May-2008 15:56:06] <idea4gud> it doesnt get me automaticalluy
[01-May-2008 15:56:18] <idea4gud> also in the status and perf monitor i have localhost
[01-May-2008 15:56:22] <idea4gud> do i have to tht
[01-May-2008 15:56:28] <idea4gud> *change
[01-May-2008 15:58:58] <zenops> Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
[01-May-2008 16:08:36] <malbon> mray: ping
[01-May-2008 16:10:41] <masaghi> here is the log:
[01-May-2008 16:10:43] <masaghi> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 395, in ?
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> z = ZenHub()
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 185, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> ZCmdBase.__init__(self)
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/ZCmdBase.py", line 44, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> self.zeoConnect()
[01-May-2008 16:11:00] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 227, in zeoConnect
[01-May-2008 16:11:02] <masaghi> cache_size=self.options.pcachesize*1024*1024)
[01-May-2008 16:11:04] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 314, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:11:06] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 112, in open
[01-May-2008 16:11:08] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 835, in scan
[01-May-2008 16:11:10] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 121, in install
[01-May-2008 16:11:12] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 630, in fromFile
[01-May-2008 16:11:14] <masaghi> ValueError: corrupted record, oid
[01-May-2008 16:12:13] <mray> masaghi: I'd say put a detailed post on the zenoss-users forum with a good description. Especially if you're using the Beta, someone will get back to you sooner.
[01-May-2008 16:12:17] <mray> malbon: yo
[01-May-2008 16:12:45] <masaghi> thanks
[01-May-2008 16:13:54] <malbon> mray: did you see my email?
[01-May-2008 16:14:33] <mray> malbon: no, was it direct or to a list?
[01-May-2008 16:15:05] <mray> malbon: I gotta go to a meeting, I'll be back
[01-May-2008 16:15:09] <malbon> mray: direct and from my $current_employer
[01-May-2008 16:15:19] <malbon> mray: no prob, ping me when you're back please.
[01-May-2008 16:27:53] <tukulitosakayama> Hi, Zenoss it seems to be a really good application if I refer to comments on the web, but I have installed Zenoss on a server, but is everything except "straight forward" configuration, I can only see some of the devices, but not much information, and even nothing if I talk about my linux servers.
[01-May-2008 16:28:23] <tukulitosakayama> I have installed snmp on all of the servers but no answer.
[01-May-2008 16:28:41] <malbon> the default config file will only allow access from localhost.
[01-May-2008 16:29:04] <malbon> You'll need to edit /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf to allow access from your zenoss server in most distros.
[01-May-2008 16:29:27] <malbon> or if you're using HP gear, point zenoss at the iLO and use it instead (it proxies snmp)
[01-May-2008 16:30:16] <zenops> Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
[01-May-2008 16:30:55] <malbon> zenops: snmpwalk the device, to check the device supports that mib.
[01-May-2008 16:32:04] <maj> is there any howto on monitoring processes on nix box?
[01-May-2008 16:33:11] <malbon> maj: the admin guide is your friend
[01-May-2008 16:33:13] <tukulitosakayama> ok let me check
[01-May-2008 16:33:26] <idea4gud> malbon do we need to on the server snmp.conf
[01-May-2008 16:33:29] <idea4gud> or on the client
[01-May-2008 16:33:41] <malbon> the client which you wish to monitor
[01-May-2008 16:33:52] <idea4gud> also what abt windows macchine
[01-May-2008 16:33:58] <malbon> well actually zenoss is the client, and the endpoint is the server
[01-May-2008 16:34:11] <idea4gud> i have snmp enabled with trap service but still i get no information
[01-May-2008 16:34:14] <malbon> have you got snmp installed on your windows machines?
[01-May-2008 16:34:49] <idea4gud> yeah i have SNMP and SNMP trap enabled
[01-May-2008 16:35:16] <malbon> have you done an snmpwalk from the server that zenoss is running on to make sure that the two can communicate?
[01-May-2008 16:35:30] <idea4gud> yes
[01-May-2008 16:36:09] <malbon> can you define still then? how long have you been waiting?
[01-May-2008 16:37:13] <idea4gud> i did snmpwalk now and it gave huge MIB info
[01-May-2008 16:37:58] <malbon> ok so the profile in zenoss, have you moved it to the /Server/Windows device class?
[01-May-2008 16:38:04] <idea4gud> yes
[01-May-2008 16:38:12] <malbon> and you have re-modelled it?
[01-May-2008 16:38:22] <malbon> (after pushing the changes?)
[01-May-2008 16:38:35] <Dekel> Does anyone know if zenoss (community version) can monitor the traffic of a nfs-server?
[01-May-2008 16:39:14] <zenops> Sure thanks
[01-May-2008 16:40:33] <idea4gud> i am lookin for HD,Memory space and CPU utilization of the device
[01-May-2008 16:40:53] <idea4gud> but i dont get any info
[01-May-2008 16:44:31] <Dekel> someone?
[01-May-2008 16:48:31] <malbon> idea4gud: sounds like you need to remodel the device to me
[01-May-2008 16:49:18] <tukulitosakayama> malbon: I can not find any configuration via IP addresses, only via Domains, but at the moment I'm working only with IP addresses no domains at all, I am trying to install Zenoss so I can monitor everything and then install a DNS server...
[01-May-2008 16:51:06] <idea4gud> malbon: remodel the device to me?
[01-May-2008 16:51:28] <malbon> tukulitosakayama: go to basics, make sure that snmpwalk works
[01-May-2008 16:52:07] <malbon> idea4gud: remodel the device
[01-May-2008 16:52:21] <tukulitosakayama> OK, from Zenoss server
[01-May-2008 16:52:40] <malbon> idea4gud: then wait about 15mins, because RRDtool needs at least 3 readings before it displays any values
[01-May-2008 16:52:48] <malbon> tukulitosakayama: yes, exactly.
[01-May-2008 17:40:01] <tukulitosakayama> does the snmpd.conf on Zenoss box need to have the same config as the other servers, I have Centos 5 on the two sides (to start)
[01-May-2008 17:45:33] <mray> malbon: I don't see an email from you
[01-May-2008 17:45:42] <mray> malbon: but I've got a lot of filters
[01-May-2008 17:47:51] <mray> malbon: oh wait, the Jython stuff?
[01-May-2008 17:48:55] <mray> Dekel: I'm not sure of a good way to monitor the traffic on an NFS system
[01-May-2008 17:50:28] <_chris_> Dekel: how does your NFS provide performance metrics?
[01-May-2008 17:51:21] <_chris_> Dekel: zenoss can run commands, capture their output, and record what is produced.
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] <tukulitosakayama> I'm doing something wrong? is there any document where I can find how to setup snmpd.conf ?
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] <tukulitosakayama> snmpwalk 192.168.2.64
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] <tukulitosakayama> snmpwalk: No securityName specified
[01-May-2008 17:53:58] <_chris_> snmpwalk -c public -v 1 192.168.2.64 .1
[01-May-2008 17:54:27] <_chris_> tukulitosakayama: consult the documentation for your distribution. each distro configures /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf differently.
[01-May-2008 17:54:57] <_chris_> also consult the security settings on your distro. some distros bind the snmpd to 127.0.0.1 and thus remote hosts (e.g. zenoss) can't query them.
[01-May-2008 17:58:15] <Dekel> mray, _chris_, if zenoss only run commands and so it sounds like a nagios-like system
[01-May-2008 17:59:08] <_chris_> Dekel: nagios-style output is one technique for collecting performance information. there are other (e.g. snmp, wmi) techniques as well.
[01-May-2008 17:59:40] <Dekel> zenoss workswith snmp, right?
[01-May-2008 18:00:05] <mray> definitely
[01-May-2008 18:00:07] <malbon> mray: yup, jython goodness
[01-May-2008 18:00:16] <_chris_> yes, zenoss works with snmp. if you read the user's guide you'll get an idea of what zenoss can do
[01-May-2008 18:00:17] <mray> malbon: working on the followup
[01-May-2008 18:00:31] <Dekel> well... my problem is that i have a nfs-server, which serves many computers in my organization
[01-May-2008 18:00:32] <mray> malbon: I was out of town the last week with LinuxFest NW
[01-May-2008 18:01:52] <Dekel> and i'm not sure why, but we have some troubles with this server... and we are not really sure what cause these troubles
[01-May-2008 18:04:21] <_chris_> it might be more productive if you instead described what you know about the server and what you would like to do with zenoss. for example, my NFS server has a perl based API i can call locally to retrieve the number of reads and writes per second. how do i get zenoss to capture that information, graph it, and alert me when the values exceed some range?
[01-May-2008 18:06:04] <mray> malbon: sent
[01-May-2008 18:08:19] <Dekel> _chris_, the problem is that i'm not sure about the ranges...
[01-May-2008 18:08:48] <Dekel> the problems are number of connections, read/writes, memory, swap, user-auth and much more...
[01-May-2008 18:09:06] <_chris_> are you capturing this information in zenoss already?
[01-May-2008 18:09:08] <Dekel> it might also be a problem with the configuration of the server
[01-May-2008 18:09:21] <Dekel> i don't have zenoss yet
[01-May-2008 18:09:35] <malbon> mray: I've heard some rubbish excuses.
(only joking)
[01-May-2008 18:09:53] <Dekel> i'm looking for some tool to monitor this server so i can find the problems
[01-May-2008 18:10:19] <_chris_> seems like a good first step is to install zenoss and begin monitoring your NFS server
[01-May-2008 18:12:28] <Dekel> monitoring for what exactly, this is the question...
[01-May-2008 18:12:38] <Dekel> do i need to write all of the tests my self?
[01-May-2008 18:12:54] <_chris_> well ya -
[01-May-2008 18:13:04] <_chris_> we don't have out-of-the-box configurations for every NFS/NAS server out there
[01-May-2008 18:13:09] <Dekel> not the answer i was looking for
[01-May-2008 18:13:12] <_chris_> so if you've got some NFS server
[01-May-2008 18:13:25] <_chris_> and you can programmatically access it's performance information
[01-May-2008 18:13:56] <_chris_> if you'd like some onsite handholding there's always the professional services option ($$)
[01-May-2008 18:14:13] <Dekel> yeah, i know
[01-May-2008 18:14:34] <Dekel> are you familiar with ntop?
[01-May-2008 18:14:42] <_chris_> sure
[01-May-2008 18:17:05] <Dekel> part of what i'm getting from this tool is nfs data monitoring
[01-May-2008 18:17:43] <malbon> mray: so that's basically no then.
[01-May-2008 18:18:09] <Dekel> i was looking for a dedicated nfs monitoring tool
[01-May-2008 18:18:23] <mray> malbon: is there a specific appserver/application you want to monitor?
[01-May-2008 18:18:36] <Dekel> thought that the zenoss had a plugin for that...
[01-May-2008 18:19:02] <mray> Dekel: I'd love to have one too
[01-May-2008 18:19:13] <malbon> mray: yes, Caplin which I already have working with the existing JMX connector, but the connector has too many warts to be useful.
[01-May-2008 18:20:49] <_chris_> Dekel: the platforms open and all the code is available. if zenoss doesn't do something you need you can always develop a zenpack to improve zenoss or you can send in a community contribution
[01-May-2008 18:21:08] <malbon> mray: anyhow I'll respond to the email. catch you later.
[01-May-2008 18:21:19] <mray> malbon: _chris_ will look at it too
[01-May-2008 18:21:57] <mray> Dekel: If you're interested in working on a ZenPack, feel free to email me at mray@zenoss.com
[01-May-2008 18:25:49] <kgoedte1> i just wrote a pass script for net-snmpd to access all the stats via an snmp oid template in zenoss. works great.
[01-May-2008 18:26:21] <_chris_> kgoedte1: cool! we have someone else that did that too and he sweats it!
[01-May-2008 18:26:23] <kgoedte1> provides all the nfs op counters
[01-May-2008 18:29:00] <kgoedte1> also i rewrote the community provided netapp zenpack and made large modifications to the zenoss provided apache zenpack
[01-May-2008 18:29:45] <kgoedte1> but i never repackaged them :[
[01-May-2008 18:35:32] <mray> kgoedte1: If you want to contribute it back, feel free to send it to me at mray@zenoss.com
[01-May-2008 18:36:00] <mray> no rush though, we're busy getting 2.2 out the door
[01-May-2008 18:45:25] <zenops> I am getting this messages: Error reading value for "ifInOctets" on....
[01-May-2008 18:45:45] <_chris_> zenops: the SNMP agent for that device isn't returning that OID.
[01-May-2008 18:45:51] <_chris_> what type of device is it?
[01-May-2008 18:45:58] <zenops> Windows server
[01-May-2008 18:46:02] <zenops> 2003
[01-May-2008 18:46:06] <_chris_> are you running the SNMP Informant?
[01-May-2008 18:46:31] <zenops> and it is running snmp and informant....Let me check again
[01-May-2008 18:47:43] <zenops> yes it is installed..
[01-May-2008 18:48:20] <_chris_> that's strange. are there any other events that complain about interface metrics not being read from the server?
[01-May-2008 18:49:19] <zenops> in the perf tab, I have way too many graphs like 10 but only have of them work
[01-May-2008 18:49:38] <zenops> have = half
[01-May-2008 18:50:36] <zenops> Actually I have 18 graph tables
[01-May-2008 18:51:11] <zenops> and 10 of them are only pulling data
[01-May-2008 19:09:06] <_chris_> __ian__ has arrived!
[01-May-2008 19:09:30] <_chris_> __ian__: any pancakes today for lunch?
[01-May-2008 19:09:50] <__ian__> Sadly, no. Rockin it mac and cheese style.
[01-May-2008 19:22:58] <_chris_> i rocked it mac and cheese style last night. i added some stoufers stuffing and chicken on the side though.
[01-May-2008 19:27:01] <_chris_> __jason__ is here too!
[01-May-2008 19:28:24] <mray> My count puts us at 5 Zenoss employees, if anyone has questions now's the time!
[01-May-2008 19:29:43] <magnachef> sounds good...Is there a way to lock Processes and Services across an entire class or System group?
[01-May-2008 19:31:41] <magnachef> or even add services across a class
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> I'm having weird issues with OS Processes I have a regexp for xinetd. when it originally ran, it found one with name "xinetd" and one with "xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd" randomly today, the "xinetd" process created an alert that "Process not running: xinetd". after doing an SNMP walk, I received the following lines:
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName.25458 = "xinetd"
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunPath.25458 = "xinetd"
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunParameters.25458 = "-stayalive -resuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid".
[01-May-2008 19:36:12] <magnachef> not sure why it's not finding xinetd process
[01-May-2008 19:37:55] <ckrough> dunno, Im sure Mac and Cheese would solve the problem though
[01-May-2008 19:38:05] <magnachef> yeah, already tried that
[01-May-2008 19:48:22] <zenops> I am getting this messages: Error reading value for "ifInOctets" ifouterror, ifhcoutoctets, ifoperstatus..etc...
[01-May-2008 19:48:49] <zenops> the device is a cisco switch cat3750
[01-May-2008 19:49:11] <_chris_> zenops: the snmp agent on your switch isn't returning those OIDs for some reason
[01-May-2008 19:49:26] <_chris_> maybe you need to login to the console and give the switch permission to return those values?
[01-May-2008 19:52:05] <zenops> it has already been done
[01-May-2008 19:53:57] <zenops> Thet were working fine until loaded all the mibs at once using *.* I have done it before with no problem..
[01-May-2008 19:55:03] <zenops> How do I troubleshoot to have these oIDs to be read..
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[02-May-2008 07:37:33] <Xander7> Hehe, got a funny alert from Zenoss: bear /cdrom/sol-10-u5-ga-sparc threshold of Free Space 90 Percent exceeded
[02-May-2008 13:16:15] <zenops> I am having this errors: Error reading value for "ifHCOutUcastPkts" on NPIF475F9 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.11 is bad)
[02-May-2008 13:16:34] <zenops> eventClass /Perf/Snmp
[02-May-2008 13:16:47] <zenops> can anyone decipher this one
[02-May-2008 14:10:13] <zenops> I am having this errors: Error reading value for "ifHCOutUcastPkts" on NPIF475F9 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.11 is bad)
[02-May-2008 14:10:26] <zenops> eventClass /Perf/Snmp
[02-May-2008 14:10:29] <zenops> can anyone decipher this one
[02-May-2008 14:13:40] <MrTux> zenops: well, your device is not returning a value for that oid
[02-May-2008 14:55:27] <magnachef> is there a way that I can have development servers and production servers in zenoss, but have separate event console views so that Dev doesn't show up in the prodcution list?
[02-May-2008 15:08:59] <garnica> how about using the dashboard so you can have an object watch list, one for production and one for development ??
[02-May-2008 15:10:13] <magnachef> but wouldn't (in essence) that take away the event console functionality?
[02-May-2008 15:11:09] <magnachef> i know that you can specify whether a device is production, test, etc
[02-May-2008 15:11:29] <magnachef> seems like it should be trivial to have an event console that can filter on that
[02-May-2008 15:12:14] <garnica> actually the event console can filter production or development ....
[02-May-2008 15:12:53] <garnica> how about creating to classes--- development and production ... so when you are in the event console you can
[02-May-2008 15:13:17] <garnica> see clearly if it comes from production servers or development servers
[02-May-2008 15:13:44] <magnachef> how do I filter between prod and dev in the console?
[02-May-2008 15:14:17] <garnica> you click in the top ... it says " eventClass" and you can filter them
[02-May-2008 15:14:43] <garnica> works the same for "device", "component", "eventClass" , etc. etc.
[02-May-2008 15:14:51] <magnachef> eventClass has a correlation of dev or production?
[02-May-2008 15:15:06] <magnachef> my eventClass has /Status/IpService, etc
[02-May-2008 15:15:15] <garnica> nop... you have to create a class for each one..
[02-May-2008 15:15:29] <garnica> and then map your events to the classes tou create
[02-May-2008 15:15:35] <garnica> so you can classify them...
[02-May-2008 15:16:09] <garnica> for example... go to the "groups" option in the left panel...
[02-May-2008 15:16:28] <magnachef> ok
[02-May-2008 15:16:37] <magnachef> and create dev and prod in there
[02-May-2008 15:16:52] <garnica> you can see sub-groups.. click on the small triangle to add a New Organizer
[02-May-2008 15:16:56] <garnica> yep
[02-May-2008 15:17:15] <magnachef> yeah, I've set up groups under the Systems
[02-May-2008 15:17:28] <magnachef> not sure what the Groups section was for
[02-May-2008 15:17:53] <garnica> once you have both... you could and n - subgroups to each one... say " linux server " or "windonws server "
[02-May-2008 15:17:53] <magnachef> I see what you're saying though
[02-May-2008 15:18:22] <garnica> once you have such goups....you can add devices to each group
[02-May-2008 15:18:37] <magnachef> I was just hoping that I could use the data that already exists about each server
[02-May-2008 15:18:53] <magnachef> can I do the same for "Systems"?
[02-May-2008 15:19:03] <magnachef> instead of using "Groups"
[02-May-2008 15:19:45] <garnica> yep.... it is a matter of trying
[02-May-2008 15:20:16] <garnica> works the same if you create event classes
[02-May-2008 15:20:25] <garnica> you go to events in the left panel
[02-May-2008 15:20:35] <garnica> then you can see a list of sub-classes
[02-May-2008 15:21:03] <garnica> then you may create "development" and "production" the same was
[02-May-2008 15:21:08] <garnica> way
[02-May-2008 15:21:36] <garnica> and finally you map these event classes with the events you see in the event console list
[02-May-2008 15:25:34] <garnica> in my case the dashboard makes it all right because gives me a summary of events of each group in a view
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> hi everybody
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> I need a help.
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> Is there anybody here to help me to get an SNMP table read to ZENOSS and show it in the frontend?
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> I need this to get a private MIB table rows and show them in Zenoss.
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> Please tutor me!
[02-May-2008 16:00:54] <garnica> masaghi.... I don't fully understand your question.... are you monitoring any device in Zenoss ?
[02-May-2008 16:14:34] <masaghi> I extended net-snmp to support a private MIB table that gives some information from a linux server.
[02-May-2008 16:14:41] <masaghi> Now I need to get this MIB table and show it in Zenoss
[02-May-2008 16:14:48] <masaghi> I don't know what I shoud to do
[02-May-2008 16:15:17] <masaghi> garnica: please help me
[02-May-2008 16:21:45] <garnica> masaghi: ok... calm down.... from the left panel of the Zenoss server click on "device List"... is there any item on the list ??
[02-May-2008 16:24:33] <masaghi> yes
[02-May-2008 16:31:48] <garnica> masaghi: click on any of the devices in the device list.... this will be the target for an SNMP Request
[02-May-2008 16:33:21] <garnica> masaghi:you should see the "Status" tab of the device
[02-May-2008 18:14:21] <garnica> ok.... I am monitoring 15 devices on a zenoss server... say xxx.xxx.xxx.20 and I have a second zenoss server say xxx.xxx.xxx.55 . What would you do to receive all trap messages in 55 when they are received in 20 ??
[02-May-2008 18:15:03] <garnica> without making any changes in the 15 devices being monitored ?
[02-May-2008 18:17:02] <magnachef> so traps are going from .55 to .20?
[02-May-2008 18:17:43] <garnica> so traps can be going from .20 to .55
[02-May-2008 18:18:31] <magnachef> you can send the traps to both
[02-May-2008 18:18:52] <magnachef> just set that up in your config
[02-May-2008 18:19:32] <magnachef> that way both (theorhetically) will get the same/all traps
[02-May-2008 18:20:02] <garnica> yep... that would involve modifying the 15 devs being monitored wich are located somewhat far
[02-May-2008 18:20:33] <magnachef> you could setup a trap proxy
[02-May-2008 18:20:58] <magnachef> so they'd all send to the proxy on .20 and have it send to both systems
[02-May-2008 18:21:00] <garnica> I was wondering.... is not there a way to enroute traps in xxx.20 to xxx.50 too ?
[02-May-2008 18:21:17] <garnica> ok
[02-May-2008 18:21:22] <garnica> sounds good
[02-May-2008 18:21:52] <garnica> so I should set up a proxy in .20
[02-May-2008 18:24:28] <magnachef> yeah
[02-May-2008 18:28:12] <garnica> thanks ! I will dive on deploying that proxy...
[02-May-2008 18:29:38] <magnachef> np
[02-May-2008 18:32:49] <locohost> forwarding traps is one of the primary functions of snmptrapd
[02-May-2008 18:42:40] <magnachef> ping npmcallum
[02-May-2008 18:49:57] <ckrough> Is it easy to generate a custom report that includes all devices and their management IP in the web interface, or would that have to be done in TALES?
[02-May-2008 18:50:39] <cgibbons> tada
[02-May-2008 18:50:45] <garnica> ok thanks locohost ! trying it !
[02-May-2008 19:05:54] <locohost> probably use the net-snmp room if you need help, i dont remember the syntax, something like traphandle 1.3 <ip)
[02-May-2008 19:10:26] <magnachef> where's the setting for what time I kick off zenmodler?
[02-May-2008 19:10:54] <magnachef> I know it's every 6 hours by default, but it's been running during the day and slowing down the system
[02-May-2008 19:11:20] <_chris__> magnachef: i believe it's based on when you started up zenmodeler
[02-May-2008 19:11:25] <_chris__> it's +6 hours from that time
[02-May-2008 19:11:28] <_chris__> we don't run it out of cron
[02-May-2008 19:11:59] <magnachef> how can I increase that to 24 hours?
[02-May-2008 19:12:10] <magnachef> do I need to change the cycletime in the config?
[02-May-2008 19:12:46] <magnachef> so I'm looking at the daemons tab under /About/zenossInfo
[02-May-2008 19:13:07] <magnachef> there's an edit config option, but it's blank, and I'm not sure what goes there
[02-May-2008 19:16:21] <magnachef> any thoughts?
[02-May-2008 19:21:39] <magnachef> also...trying to restart zenmodeler via the webpage does not actually restart the process
[02-May-2008 19:22:30] <_chris__> set cycletime in your ${ZENHOME}/etc/zenmodeler.conf
[02-May-2008 19:22:44] <_chris__> it's in minutes so set it to be 24 * 60
[02-May-2008 19:23:53] <magnachef> ok...currently that file is empty
[02-May-2008 19:24:11] <_chris__> yes - so it's using the default, which is 6 hours
[02-May-2008 19:24:58] <magnachef> so I just put in: --cycletime=1440
[02-May-2008 19:25:03] <_chris__> no
[02-May-2008 19:25:04] <_chris__> put in
[02-May-2008 19:25:06] <_chris__> cycletime 1440
[02-May-2008 19:25:14] <magnachef> gotcha
[02-May-2008 19:25:24] <cgibbons> that's the same file that gets changed if you did the edit config from the gui, magnachef
[02-May-2008 19:26:12] <magnachef> cool...thanks
[02-May-2008 19:54:16] <magnachef> what's the default number of devices zenmodeler collects in paralell?
[02-May-2008 20:11:29] <magnachef> has anyone experienced serious lag or timeout when clicking on a device's "Edit" tab?
[02-May-2008 20:11:43] <magnachef> all the other tabs work fine (OS, Hardware, etc)
[02-May-2008 22:00:14] <malbon> _chris__: ping, are you there?
[02-May-2008 22:00:28] <_chris__> ya
[02-May-2008 22:00:31] <_chris__> i'm heading out though
[02-May-2008 22:00:59] <malbon> no prob, I'll catch you another time. enjoy your weekend.
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[03-May-2008 03:37:25] <blurryrunner> so i'm trying to adjust the connection settings for zeo for a new install and they get over written in the initial start up process
[03-May-2008 03:37:39] <blurryrunner> what is the correct way to adjust those connection settings
[03-May-2008 03:37:41] <blurryrunner> ?
[03-May-2008 03:38:17] <blurryrunner> in my deployment environment i can't bind to localhost:8100
[03-May-2008 03:39:01] <blurryrunner> so i want to use a unix socket for the connection
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[03-May-2008 04:26:04] <blurryrunner> so if anyone is interested, you have to edit /opt/zenoss/skel/etc/zenoss.conf
[03-May-2008 04:26:37] <blurryrunner> i was editing /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf and it was alway getting overwritten
[03-May-2008 10:58:27] <malbon> 4
[03-May-2008 10:58:32] <malbon> doh!
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[04-May-2008 22:10:59] <gawd> Hey!
[04-May-2008 22:12:43] <gawd> I tried adding a field in a custom schema, it pops up a "Property Added" but nothing happens (name: cWebserverVersion)
[04-May-2008 22:12:46] <gawd> any ideas?
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[05-May-2008 06:29:14] <abumo> hi
[05-May-2008 06:29:51] <abumo> i need some support on the vmware appliance version and remote access to the webpage
[05-May-2008 09:09:34] <Nemie> I have problem every time I try starting zenoss, mostly I'm confused why I dont have /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl and /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[05-May-2008 09:11:50] <Nemie> http://pastebin.com/d5b8347cf
[05-May-2008 09:12:01] <Nemie> That's how it looks like every time I try to start
[05-May-2008 10:51:43] <Nemie> nothing?
[05-May-2008 11:51:15] <zenops> can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 13:12:42] <zenops> can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 13:12:56] <Nemie> spam
[05-May-2008 13:12:57] <Nemie>
[05-May-2008 13:13:32] <nemo_> check the forums ?
[05-May-2008 13:13:32] <Bulwinkle> zenops: in the interface template
[05-May-2008 13:13:48] <Nemie> anyone got an idea about my problem?
[05-May-2008 13:14:04] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: restate it?
[05-May-2008 13:14:12] <Nemie> 11:09:33 : Nemie: I have problem every time I try starting zenoss, mostly I'm confused why I dont have /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl and /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[05-May-2008 13:14:15] <Nemie> 11:11:50 : Nemie: http://pastebin.com/d5b8347cf
[05-May-2008 13:14:18] <Nemie> 11:12:01 : Nemie: That's how it looks like every time I try to start
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[05-May-2008 13:15:25] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: new install?
[05-May-2008 13:15:49] <Nemie> Bulwinkle: installed it 3 times on Fedora 8 and 2 times on CentOS 5
[05-May-2008 13:16:03] <nemo_> Nemie, i told you last week
[05-May-2008 13:16:03] <Nemie> always the same problem
[05-May-2008 13:16:08] <nemo_> the post install step didnt work
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> if you see:
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> #
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> #
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[05-May-2008 13:16:19] <nemo_> zope is not installed / running right
[05-May-2008 13:16:31] <Nemie> but what the hell is zope?
[05-May-2008 13:16:40] <MrTux> the appserver behind
[05-May-2008 13:16:42] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: it is the framework that zenoss runs on
[05-May-2008 13:16:48] <Nemie> if it's something zenoss needs, shouldn't it come with the source?
[05-May-2008 13:16:56] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: it does
[05-May-2008 13:17:01] <Nemie> well apparently not
[05-May-2008 13:17:08] <nemo_> seriously, fuck keep explaining this stuff, i will just stay quiet , but dont expect help if you cant learn
[05-May-2008 13:17:15] <Nemie> ...
[05-May-2008 13:17:37] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: it does, trust me, it just isnt installing. how are you installing, from source or RPMS?
[05-May-2008 13:17:43] <Nemie> RPM
[05-May-2008 13:17:57] <Nemie> on fedora from source
[05-May-2008 13:18:01] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: where are you getting the RPMs from?
[05-May-2008 13:18:21] <Bulwinkle> nemo_: seems futile doesn't it?
[05-May-2008 13:18:29] <nemo_> ever so slightly
[05-May-2008 13:18:33] <nemo_> wtf is zope, duh
[05-May-2008 13:18:37] <Nemie> http://www.zenoss.com/download/form
[05-May-2008 13:18:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Which Zenoss is right for you? - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2008 13:19:39] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: that doen't tell me anything....
[05-May-2008 13:19:50] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: what monitoring system are you using now?
[05-May-2008 13:19:58] <Nemie> but it seems that might be better that I leave, so I don't make you more angry... I shall try to figure it out... sorry to boher you
[05-May-2008 13:20:23] <Bulwinkle> nemo_: dude, awesome!
[05-May-2008 13:20:44] <Bulwinkle> who else can you get rid of?
[05-May-2008 13:20:55] <nemo_> well i am sorry irc isnt there for me to do your job
[05-May-2008 13:21:01] <nemo_> its about sharing knowledge
[05-May-2008 13:21:06] <Bulwinkle> hahah
[05-May-2008 13:21:17] <Bulwinkle> come on, do my job too
[05-May-2008 13:21:19] <nemo_> ppl sit here and ask us to work out there problems
[05-May-2008 13:21:41] <nemo_> anyway i didnt kick him ;P
[05-May-2008 13:21:53] <nemo_> i said id be quiet but he wouldnt get help from me
[05-May-2008 13:22:01] <nemo_> if you guys wanna waste your lives, go ahead ;P
[05-May-2008 13:22:09] <nemo_> enopugh said anyhoo ;-0
[05-May-2008 13:46:01] <likuidkewl> Has anyone else dealt with this error before?
[05-May-2008 13:46:01] <likuidkewl> 1033, "Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'"
[05-May-2008 13:46:49] <likuidkewl> This is happening when we changed the innod database to off in the Mysql settings I think.
[05-May-2008 14:48:32] <MrTux> i' having some problem with zenping, is says all devices are down, and on debug i can see unexpected packets..
[05-May-2008 14:49:03] <MrTux> i've digged some further and found out, that the hosts are not added to the joblist, does somebody now this phenomena
[05-May-2008 15:05:11] <zenops> can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 16:04:43] <Bulwinkle> zenops: quit asking the same question and look in to some of the answers people give you
[05-May-2008 16:06:49] <Bulwinkle> that threshold is set on the interface templates... look it to it
[05-May-2008 16:14:01] <Bulwinkle> zenops: did you find it?
[05-May-2008 16:30:06] <twm1010> Can anyone explain how dependencies work in Zenoss?
[05-May-2008 17:16:28] <garnica> ok.... I am writing some scripts to retrieve devices useful information using wget.... the question is.... where can I check wich methods exist for device d ?? say d.id, d.manageIp, d.x what else ?
[05-May-2008 17:30:33] * magnachef has been looking for some docs on existing methods as well
[05-May-2008 17:45:05] <twm1010> hows it goin chef
[05-May-2008 17:46:26] <magnachef> not too shabby...you?
[05-May-2008 17:46:48] <twm1010> ah... taking this week off my zenoss development to compare it to some relatively inexpensive solutions
[05-May-2008 17:47:01] <twm1010> opmanager, whatsup, orion, etc.
[05-May-2008 17:47:29] <magnachef> nice
[05-May-2008 17:47:42] <magnachef> always a good time
[05-May-2008 17:47:55] <twm1010> I'm not seeing Zenoss put a good fight so far, the only area its winning in is price.
[05-May-2008 17:48:07] <twm1010> but if you factor in labor then it loses that one too :|
[05-May-2008 17:49:17] <magnachef> ahhh...It seems to be doing pretty well in my environment so far
[05-May-2008 17:49:38] <twm1010> My only miffs, really, are the lack of a clear setup of dependencies
[05-May-2008 17:49:54] <magnachef> If there were some more indepth documentation, and best practices, etc, then I'd be all set
[05-May-2008 17:49:55] <twm1010> and that the canned reports are too broad, and not enough of them
[05-May-2008 17:51:18] <magnachef> yeah, I'm talking with Zenoss sales guys today to see what I get with the Enterprise edition over the Free version
[05-May-2008 17:52:09] <twm1010> Seems overpriced to me, honestly.
[05-May-2008 17:57:21] <magnachef> I guess I'll find out :-)
[05-May-2008 17:57:43] <magnachef> well, if you look at products like Netcool, etc, it's decent in price
[05-May-2008 18:00:28] <magnachef> I do like the fact that it's an open framework
[05-May-2008 18:01:27] <twm1010> yes, i do appreciate that for sure
[05-May-2008 18:03:54] <_chris_> twm1010: what's unclear about the dependencies?
[05-May-2008 18:04:04] <_chris_> the fact that we have them?
[05-May-2008 18:04:07] <twm1010> well. how do you set them up?
[05-May-2008 18:04:20] <twm1010> I don't undestand the relationships, and how they interact with alerting.
[05-May-2008 18:04:23] <_chris_> are you talking about the package dependencies that zenoss has?
[05-May-2008 18:04:31] <twm1010> no, logical ones between the devices
[05-May-2008 18:04:32] <_chris_> the rpm deps?
[05-May-2008 18:04:37] <_chris_> oh ok
[05-May-2008 18:04:40] <twm1010> say i got 5 servers behind a router at a remote site...
[05-May-2008 18:04:47] <twm1010> router goes down, i get 6 notifications when i only need one
[05-May-2008 18:04:49] <_chris_> right
[05-May-2008 18:04:58] <_chris_> that shouldn't happen if the route tables are known
[05-May-2008 18:05:09] <_chris_> check the OS tab for the router and see if the networks are known
[05-May-2008 18:05:47] <twm1010> So it's supposed to be automatic, for the layer 3?
[05-May-2008 18:06:07] <_chris_> yes - for layer 3 i believe it's automatic
[05-May-2008 18:08:17] <twm1010> i guess i've never seen it do that
[05-May-2008 18:08:35] <twm1010> i definitely know that my OS tabs for the routers are well filled out.
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[05-May-2008 20:23:17] <cgibbons> grrr
[05-May-2008 21:43:13] <garnica> Wich python file I should check to find the existing methods of a device object....say d.id, d.manageIp, d.x what else ??
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[06-May-2008 11:54:20] <zenops> what does this means: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded? and how do I adjust it?
[06-May-2008 12:19:41] <zenops> what does this means: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded? and how do I adjust it?
[06-May-2008 12:21:47] <MrTux> zenops: this means it took to much time to complete the cycle. please go and read the documentation, and stop asking the same question multiple times
[06-May-2008 12:42:27] <Bulwinkle> MrTux: I've pointed out that there is excellent documentation several times to zenops
[06-May-2008 12:44:08] <MrTux> Bulwinkle: well, i won't call it excellent, but for his problems its sufficient..
[06-May-2008 12:44:19] <zenops> Why do people come into this channel and because they know something they get to tell off others...this a comunities, and you are not forced to answer...if you do not like the question...step aside please..I am trying to get my job done...do not get in the way of someone trying to learn.......
[06-May-2008 12:45:01] <zenops> This channels are an excellent learning tool...
[06-May-2008 12:45:03] <MrTux> zenops: well, a community has some rules, and in it communities the first rule is RTFM, read the fucking manual...
[06-May-2008 12:45:09] <zenops> do not spoil it for others..
[06-May-2008 12:45:20] <MrTux> zenops: if you don't like the rules, buy the support and have your own rules.
[06-May-2008 12:45:21] <Bulwinkle> zenops: you constantly ask the same question and ignore answers that are given to you in the channel
[06-May-2008 12:45:27] <zenops> As i sais ...step aside...
[06-May-2008 12:45:52] <zenops> is you Bullwinkle again...why don't you tel me off again...
[06-May-2008 12:46:11] <zenops> please guys really..
[06-May-2008 12:46:26] <zenops> lets be a grown up about this..
[06-May-2008 12:46:38] <MrTux> ok, you'll get on the ignore list, and won't get help on more complicated problems, your choice
[06-May-2008 12:46:44] <zenops> if you do not like the question,,,,,,just ignore it
[06-May-2008 12:46:47] * nemo_ stays quiet , but yall know what i think
[06-May-2008 12:47:03] <MrTux> nemo_: don't feed the trolls, your right
[06-May-2008 12:47:18] <zenops> thanks for staying on the side..
[06-May-2008 12:47:22] <zenops> thank you
[06-May-2008 12:47:36] <zenops> that works for me
[06-May-2008 12:48:24] <Bulwinkle> zenops: you've made it to my ignore list too, congrats
[06-May-2008 12:48:33] <zenops> thank you...
[06-May-2008 12:49:11] <zenops> What a great way to deal with new Zenoss customers, I think I wil have a talk with themm
[06-May-2008 12:49:18] <zenops> 'thank you
[06-May-2008 12:49:23] <Bulwinkle> his chances for getting any help is getting less and less since anyone with any knowledge in here is /ignoring him now
[06-May-2008 12:50:36] <zenops> luckily, people like you are very hard to come by
[06-May-2008 12:51:26] <nemo_> ok i agreed to stfu about my opinions maybe you can too , back to zenoss chat ?
[06-May-2008 12:51:29] <zenops> I could use my Zenoss support but I have chosen to use this channel, unless you tell me you own this channel
[06-May-2008 12:51:41] <zenops> thank you again\
[06-May-2008 12:51:51] <zenops> I have a question
[06-May-2008 15:28:51] <CrackZmoQ> i'm getting this error when trying to start zenoss, "3: Can't open /home/zenoss/.profile"
[06-May-2008 15:29:43] <CrackZmoQ> i have never run into this before and i don't normally admin this machine but symlinking it to a .bashrc doesn't help because then i get other errors
[06-May-2008 15:30:03] <CrackZmoQ> like, "13: shopt: not found"
[06-May-2008 15:30:12] <CrackZmoQ> and "/etc/bash_completion: 44: Syntax error: Bad substitution"
[06-May-2008 15:30:51] <CrackZmoQ> search results from google for these are not returning as i'd hoped
[06-May-2008 15:30:57] <CrackZmoQ> has anyone seen this before?
[06-May-2008 15:31:18] <CrackZmoQ> this service seems to have died on April 30th
[06-May-2008 15:39:07] <nemo_> [zenoss@monitor04 ~]$ cat .profile*
[06-May-2008 15:39:07] <nemo_> cat: .profile*: No such file or directory
[06-May-2008 15:39:35] <nemo_> so thats not so strange
[06-May-2008 15:40:02] <nemo_> su - zenoss ; zenoss status might be a good place to start
[06-May-2008 15:42:39] <CrackZmoQ> Daemon: zenstatus program running;
[06-May-2008 15:42:46] <CrackZmoQ> everything else is not running
[06-May-2008 15:43:10] <CrackZmoQ> meh
[06-May-2008 15:43:20] <CrackZmoQ> zenoss stop and zenoss start works well enough
[06-May-2008 15:43:47] <CrackZmoQ> i just want to find out why it died a few days ago. time to scrub through the logs again
[06-May-2008 15:47:24] <CrackZmoQ> is there any reason why there has to be so many logs?
[06-May-2008 15:47:43] <CrackZmoQ> can't all logging information just be output into one file?
[06-May-2008 16:09:04] <cgibbons> tada
[06-May-2008 16:14:25] <jberry> anybody have a clue why the java process spawed by zenjmx is such a pig? It sucks up a whole core for long periods of time.
[06-May-2008 16:14:39] <cgibbons> it's java
[06-May-2008 16:14:48] <cgibbons> how much core is it taking on your system?
[06-May-2008 16:14:52] <jberry> 100%
[06-May-2008 16:15:09] <jberry> seemingly at every poll interval.
[06-May-2008 16:15:17] <jberry> for much longer than I would think is needed.
[06-May-2008 16:15:33] <cgibbons> single CPU system, or?
[06-May-2008 16:15:42] <jberry> dual cpus. It's taking one of them.
[06-May-2008 16:16:08] <cgibbons> lemme ask the guy that wrote it if it does multiple threads, sorta sounds like it doesn't
[06-May-2008 16:16:08] <jberry> It has the look of a process that's spinning when it shouldn't be
[06-May-2008 16:16:34] <jberry> thx
[06-May-2008 16:17:02] <jberry> tell him to fix the other bugs in zenjmx while he's at it.
[06-May-2008 16:17:12] <cgibbons> yeah it's got a big todo list for sure
[06-May-2008 16:18:40] <_chris_> jberry: you are welcome to submit your bug reports to http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/
[06-May-2008 16:18:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-May-2008 16:19:15] <jberry> _chris_: thanks. Yes, I should do that. And have, at times.
[06-May-2008 16:19:27] <mray> _chris_: you beat me to it
[06-May-2008 16:19:55] <_chris_> jberry: it's remarkable how much more effective it is when you submit bug reports rather than make generic statements on irc like "fix the other bugs in zenjmx while he's at it."
[06-May-2008 16:20:28] <mray> _chris_ gets testy when people point out that his baby has warts
[06-May-2008 16:20:37] <jberry> _chris_: yes, understood. On the other hand it's also frustrating when ongong threads in forum get no zenoss input on issue such as zenjmx.
[06-May-2008 16:21:26] <_chris_> jberry: paying customers also get frustrated when developers spend time supporting non-paying customers. ;-)
[06-May-2008 16:22:23] <jberry> Well, hopefully making it so that zenjmx can actually work in an authenticated fashion, as advertised, is good for both parties. http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5401
[06-May-2008 16:22:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2008 16:25:56] <jberry> huh. I don't see any links to the trac site from the main zenoss pages. So that's encouraging people to file bugs? Or to hide bugs?
[06-May-2008 16:26:05] <mray> jberry: We're currently working on pushing out a new beta with improved installers
[06-May-2008 16:26:21] <_chris_> jberry: if you are interested in seeing this problem resolved you could: a.) become a paying customer, b.) modify the source code yourself and submit a patch. until then this problem will have to compete against the other 584 open tickets.
[06-May-2008 16:26:21] <mray> check and see if they fix your bug
[06-May-2008 16:26:52] <cgibbons> the 'Code' link on the zenoss page has a link that then takes you to trac, jberry
[06-May-2008 16:29:30] <jberry> cgibbons: thanks. I bug suggest a link for "bug reports" or "issue tracking". I use track, so I might have been able to figure out (though it wasn't obvious to me) that to file a bug report I'd click on a "code" link.
[06-May-2008 16:29:40] <jberry> trac, that is
[06-May-2008 16:31:16] <cgibbons> yeah
[06-May-2008 16:32:42] <jberry> cgibbons: it's not apparent how I file a bug. What login do I need to use?
[06-May-2008 16:32:44] <mray> jberry: out of curiosity, what kind of jmx monitoring are you doing? I'm just curious
[06-May-2008 16:33:22] <jberry> mray: monitoring a single java web server, pulling out about 5 different jmx parameters such as thead count, memory usage, etc.
[06-May-2008 16:33:52] <jberry> mray: and for that, the java process on the zen machine consumes about 2 minutes every five minutes at 100% cpu
[06-May-2008 16:34:05] <mray> jberry: looks like we require you to login to create a ticket
[06-May-2008 16:34:14] <cgibbons> huh that certainly does seem excessive
[06-May-2008 16:34:23] <jberry> mray: and how do I login?
[06-May-2008 16:34:25] <mray> I'll ask IT why we don't allow anonymous creation of tickets
[06-May-2008 16:34:32] <_chris_> we were getting spammed by our trac server
[06-May-2008 16:34:44] <_chris_> that's why we don't allow anon creation of tickets
[06-May-2008 16:35:15] <jberry> the new trac .11 which is due (any month now) is supposed to have better anti-spam controls.
[06-May-2008 16:36:16] <jberry> _chris_: so that answers your earlier question about why I might make statements like that, rather than filing bugs... Because I can't!
[06-May-2008 16:36:59] <jberry> But making it hard to file bugs can be an efficient way to cut down bug counts
[06-May-2008 16:37:14] <_chris_> jberry: you can use the zenoss account to create tickets. the password is zenoss.
[06-May-2008 16:37:15] <mray> I can assure you that's unintentional
[06-May-2008 16:37:27] <jberry> _chris_: thanks
[06-May-2008 16:37:44] <mray> _chris_: should we put that up on the trac page somewhere?
[06-May-2008 16:37:52] <mray> or will that just encourage spammers?
[06-May-2008 16:38:43] <zenops> I am getting this errors "threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 716.72" I increased the values to 90 and I am still getting the same errors..what gives?
[06-May-2008 16:40:05] <zenops> I am also getting this one on my LOCALHOST but I have no clue: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded: current value 394.07
[06-May-2008 16:40:14] <zenops> please advice and thank you
[06-May-2008 16:41:19] <cgibbons> that's kinda neat
[06-May-2008 16:44:47] <zenops> When I changed the threshold from 75 to 90, now I get an page error on the performance tab... Module Python expression "here.speed / 8 * .90", line 1, in <expression>
[06-May-2008 16:45:30] <jberry> _chris_: Hmm. I just spent 5 minutes typing up a bug report after logging in as the zenoss user as suggested. But on submit of the ticket I got the error message "TICKET CREATE PRIVILEGES NEEDED" (or something like that).
[06-May-2008 16:47:26] <mray> jberry: Seriously? Send me the text and I'll enter it for you. I'm working on a ticket for IT to put those credentials on the page right now
[06-May-2008 16:47:34] <mray> jberry: mray@zenoss.com
[06-May-2008 16:48:05] <mray> if the credentials won't let you create a ticket, I'll get that fixed too
[06-May-2008 16:48:56] <jberry> mray: on an additional try it does seem to let me create a ticket. I got the error when I hit "preview" before hitting submit ticket. I'll try one more time.
[06-May-2008 16:52:22] <mray> Was that 3114?
[06-May-2008 16:52:42] <jberry> (that was probably the second test I did after the first failed).
[06-May-2008 16:52:50] <jberry> I just submitted a true but as #3115.
[06-May-2008 16:52:59] <jberry> "true bug"
[06-May-2008 16:53:31] <mray> cool, thanks
[06-May-2008 16:57:01] <zenops> Can some help me with my questions please..
[06-May-2008 17:04:07] <jberry> mray: filed #3116 about the zenjmx load issue. It's a bit skimpy, as I don't have any good diagnostic information for it, unfortunately.
[06-May-2008 17:05:36] <mray> zenops: You might want to post that to the forums to get a little more visibility. IRC is somewhat asynchronous and development is slammed right now.
[06-May-2008 17:13:54] <zenops> mray thanks, I did I am waiting for responses..
[06-May-2008 17:15:33] <zenops> but perhaps you could tell me this: why is it that lots of devices change the status of SNMP up to SNMP DOWN and back and forth..I am trying to find the cause, it does this for hours..
[06-May-2008 17:17:20] <jberry> mray: one other infrastructure issue that's annoying...
[06-May-2008 17:18:03] <jberry> I'm subscribed to the forum, but not to a mailing list. When I post to the forum, I get bounces back from various mailing lists, saying that my message has been rejected.
[06-May-2008 17:18:40] <jberry> The forum is posting to a mailing list which rejects my message because I'm not a mailing list subscriber. Not what I'd expect.
[06-May-2008 17:28:29] <Mosburn_mobile> has anyone managed to get zenoss 2.1.3 to pull AIX interfaces?
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[06-May-2008 18:08:14] <litein> I have monitoring some cisco routers and I see the bandwidth being used. However under the OS there are no interfaces. I have my routers in the network.router.cisco class.
[06-May-2008 18:54:04] cgibbons_ is now known as cgibbons
[06-May-2008 19:20:10] <zenops> I got this error: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded: current value 393.99 it only happens on the localhost that is hosting Zenoss...any ideas?
[06-May-2008 19:26:36] <romeo8484> Hello, I've installed the zenoss rpm on rhel5. But when I try to start it, it's assuming a blank mysql root password. Which file do I edit to tell it, mysql's root password? Thanks
[06-May-2008 19:33:39] <romeo8484> just found it with a grep... zenoss_init_pre and zenoss_init_post
[06-May-2008 19:36:31] <kazar> hi
[06-May-2008 19:36:36] <kazar> òóò åñòü æèâûå?
[06-May-2008 20:03:45] <garn32> is there a way to set zenoss core up so that it will email specific reports out to specifice zenoss users?
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[06-May-2008 20:09:02] <garn32> is there a way to set zenoss core up so that it will email specific reports out to specifice zenoss users?
[06-May-2008 20:13:56] <pat2man> so I am having issues with zenhub, it doesnt want to start and I am getting this in the zenhub log: http://pastebin.com/d3c85c4f5
[06-May-2008 20:15:24] <pat2man> anyone seen this before?
[06-May-2008 20:27:09] <_chris_> pat2man: shut down everything, cd ${ZENHOME}/var, remove the .zec files, and start back up
[06-May-2008 20:34:07] <pat2man> _chris_: sweet that did it, thanks
[06-May-2008 21:33:56] <garnica> how can I eliminate all events before Friday 2nd May from mysql event database ??
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[07-May-2008 07:24:10] <nemo_> mogguh
[07-May-2008 15:59:20] <kaptk2> I am installing a new Zenoss box on CentOS 5 with the i386 version of zenoss 2.1.3. Everything seems to install fine however when I issue /etc/init.d/zenoss start I get tons of errors. Most of which say something about can not allocate memory. How can I begin to trouble shoot this?
[07-May-2008 16:03:55] <kaptk2> Nevermind... it is because I am running it in a virtual machine
[07-May-2008 16:18:11] <mzenops> I rebooted the linux install where Zenoss its been hosted, and the zenoss client can not see any devices, they are all gone..
[07-May-2008 16:18:40] <mzenops> I can ping, login, logout and login from my client with no problem.
[07-May-2008 16:19:39] <mzenops> at the server I did a "zenoss restart: successfully a few times and still no devices..
[07-May-2008 16:45:06] <mzenops> I found out what it was....had to restart Mysld and snmpd manually..will not do it auot anymore..
[07-May-2008 16:45:16] <mzenops> I found out what it was....had to restart Mysld and snmpd manually..will not do it auto anymore..
[07-May-2008 18:11:39] <chart3399> hey hey
[07-May-2008 18:13:07] <chart3399> zenoss question...is it possible to associate a subnet with a location? That way all devices discovered in that subnet automatically show up under that location ?
[07-May-2008 21:41:41] <pat2man> does anyone know if there is a way to clear all past performance data? our system clock was a few days fast so I cant gather any performance data right now
[07-May-2008 21:42:34] <pat2man> "rrd error illegal attempt to update using time 1210196108 when last update time is 1210606978" and such
[07-May-2008 22:49:12] <swaheali> Has anyone use Zenoss to monitor windows directory size?
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[08-May-2008 09:48:13] <nocturn> Hi, I'm new to ZenOSS (used Nagios before)
[08-May-2008 09:48:32] <nocturn> I'm wondering how well ZenOSS works without SNMP
[08-May-2008 09:48:46] <nemo_> works fine, but it is very much setup for snmp
[08-May-2008 09:49:01] <nocturn> nemo_: I noticed that
[08-May-2008 09:49:29] <nocturn> What do I put in discovery protocol when not using snmp for a new device?
[08-May-2008 09:49:33] <nemo_> none
[08-May-2008 09:49:58] <nemo_> then you use your ip services collectors etc to define what gets modelled
[08-May-2008 10:06:27] <nocturn> This takes quite some getting used to when coming from Nagios...
[08-May-2008 10:19:52] * nemo_ nods
[08-May-2008 11:28:35] <nemo_> anyone got detailed info on zenoss users ?
[08-May-2008 11:28:53] <nemo_> the admin guide is very thin on details, lists only Manager, Zenuser
[08-May-2008 11:29:21] <nemo_> i would like to know the purpose / limitations of the other types of users, zenmanager etc
[08-May-2008 11:34:17] <nocturn> How do I disable snmp alltogehter for devices without it?
[08-May-2008 11:34:25] <nocturn> It pings my linksys ok, but I get an event:
[08-May-2008 11:34:41] <nocturn> snmp agent down on device core01
[08-May-2008 11:34:44] <nemo_> have a look at the zProperties for that class
[08-May-2008 11:34:55] <nemo_> zPingIgnore : True/False
[08-May-2008 11:35:01] <nemo_> something along those lines
[08-May-2008 11:35:26] <nemo_> if you want it for all devices , consider setting it on the /devices class
[08-May-2008 11:35:55] <nocturn> Ok, I'm starting to get the concept
[08-May-2008 11:36:12] <nocturn> Does ZenOSS also have something like an agent to run on clients?
[08-May-2008 11:36:20] <nemo_> that would be zSnmpIgnore btw
[08-May-2008 11:36:22] <nemo_> or similar
[08-May-2008 11:36:34] <nemo_> i have trouble remember all the variable names
[08-May-2008 11:38:22] <nocturn> It can do checks throug SSH?
[08-May-2008 11:38:36] <nemo_> zCommand i think
[08-May-2008 11:38:37] <nemo_> yes
[08-May-2008 11:38:43] <nocturn> Nice...
[08-May-2008 11:39:46] <nocturn> I have a lot to learn before I can actually use this...
[08-May-2008 11:45:54] <nocturn> nemo_: do you happen to know a good document to start with ZenOSS
[08-May-2008 11:51:53] <nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide
[08-May-2008 11:52:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2008 11:55:25] <nocturn> Bookmarked
[08-May-2008 11:55:27] <nocturn> thanks both
[08-May-2008 11:56:27] <nemo_> adytum-bot is a bot ;p
[08-May-2008 11:56:28] <adytum-bot> nemo_: Error: 'is' is not a valid command.
[08-May-2008 11:56:36] <nemo_> but np
[08-May-2008 12:05:49] <nocturn> Ok, I missed that
[08-May-2008 12:05:52] <nocturn> Need sleep
[08-May-2008 12:06:01] <locohost__> sle...what?
[08-May-2008 12:06:06] <locohost__> never heard of it
[08-May-2008 12:08:25] <nocturn> I have vague memories of being asleep at one point in my life :-)
[08-May-2008 12:10:44] <locohost__> sysadmins dont sleep, they drink rockstar energy drink in the dark
[08-May-2008 12:11:01] <locohost__> it all works out the same
[08-May-2008 12:15:52] <nocturn> :-)
[08-May-2008 12:15:58] <nocturn> I need to go, meetingitis...
[08-May-2008 12:16:00] <nocturn> CU guys
[08-May-2008 12:19:15] <nemo_> locohost. sounds healthy
[08-May-2008 12:24:22] <myrick> Hi Guys Have someone time to help me ?
[08-May-2008 12:24:28] <myrick> I have a few Questions .. =(
[08-May-2008 12:26:26] <nemo_> dont ask if you can ask, just ask, if someone can / be / bothered, they will
[08-May-2008 12:26:29] <nemo_>
[08-May-2008 12:26:39] <myrick> k =)
[08-May-2008 12:27:28] <myrick> For Example .. If i add a Location Tirol ( This is a regional selection ) and then as sub-location Innsbruck ( a City ) .. and then add there a Device .. like a Server or Printer ...
[08-May-2008 12:27:51] <myrick> Why it always need as Device Name at first the IP ADRESS ? and why it always try to use SNMP ?
[08-May-2008 12:28:26] <myrick> Our Server doesn't have SNMP ... and i'm too stupid to find the ..
[08-May-2008 12:36:45] <myrick> ok ..
[08-May-2008 12:39:17] <myrick> nemo_ ?
[08-May-2008 12:40:00] <nemo_> what did i say, if someone can be bothered, they will ;p
[08-May-2008 12:40:11] <nemo_> i dont work for zenoss, i just use it
[08-May-2008 12:40:50] <nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide
[08-May-2008 12:40:55] <nemo_> good place to start, have a good day
[08-May-2008 12:41:16] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2008 13:09:14] <myrick> kk last Question
[08-May-2008 13:09:56] <myrick> How i can configure what Event & Process e.g. ping, snmp, portscan it should try for DEVICES ?
[08-May-2008 13:25:48] <nemo_> thats called collector plugins
[08-May-2008 13:26:11] <nemo_> and is set per class and is inherited by child classes
[08-May-2008 13:31:17] <myrick> kk where i find this plugins ?
[08-May-2008 13:31:19] <myrick> nemo_ ?
[08-May-2008 13:32:00] <nemo_> RTFM dudes
[08-May-2008 13:32:26] <nemo_> i am not yo teacher, no one answers my questions ?
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] <nemo_> <nemo_> anyone got detailed info on zenoss users ?
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] <nemo_> <nemo_> the admin guide is very thin on details, lists only Manager, Zenuser
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] <nemo_> <nemo_> i would like to know the purpose / limitations of the other types of users, zenmanager etc
[08-May-2008 13:34:05] <chart3399> Does anyone know a way to associate a network subnet with a location in zenoss? That way whenever a new device is discovered in that subnet it is automatically associated with a particular location?
[08-May-2008 13:34:09] <nemo_> and i did RTFM
[08-May-2008 13:41:44] <myrick> nemo_ thank you .. but i have every plugin under collector plugins deleted and still its:
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] <myrick> Component Type
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] <myrick> Status
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] <myrick> Other
[08-May-2008 13:41:47] <myrick> snmp
[08-May-2008 13:45:11] <myrick> last question nemo_ but pls help me =(
[08-May-2008 13:45:50] <nemo_> come on get a life, i am not resposible for you learning stuff, i tried to help you myrick, but dont sit there waiting for me
[08-May-2008 13:46:34] <nemo_> OR pay contractors rates and i will fix your shit and talk to you on phone
[08-May-2008 13:46:37] <nemo_>
[08-May-2008 13:46:45] <myrick> nemo_ ... but i do'nt know why u can't give me a Solution ..
[08-May-2008 13:47:01] <nemo_> because I am at work doing my job, why do yours ?
[08-May-2008 13:47:02] <myrick> don't ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:16] <nemo_> i come to work for money, dont you ?
[08-May-2008 13:47:25] <myrick> Okay ... I give it up ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:36] <nemo_> nice, your a winner i can see it
[08-May-2008 13:47:41] <myrick> nemo_ nice day, nice weekend ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:49] <nemo_> you too
[08-May-2008 13:49:06] <chart3399> I come to work for the tings I can steal without anyone noticing
[08-May-2008 13:50:09] <nemo_> respec
[08-May-2008 14:46:10] <locohost__> lol
[08-May-2008 14:46:25] <locohost__> var1=`expr $RANDOM % 50`;var2=`rpm -qa|head -n $var1|tail -n 1`;yum remove $var2 -y
[08-May-2008 14:46:35] <locohost__> try cronning that every night at midnight, should fix the issue
[08-May-2008 14:48:24] <nemo_> locohost, how will that "fix the issue" ?
[08-May-2008 14:52:55] <locohost__> hehe, i lied it doesnt.
[08-May-2008 14:53:09] <locohost__> im over tired, up all night racking servers
[08-May-2008 15:14:44] <nemo_> teehee
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[08-May-2008 19:44:58] <myrick> Good Evening somebody know where the HEADER of Zenoss is set ?
[08-May-2008 20:37:32] <porkpie> Hi guy's I am having an issue installing zenoss on my ubuntu box make: *** No rule to make target `.patchdeps', needed by `default'. Stop.
[08-May-2008 20:37:33] <porkpie> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[08-May-2008 20:37:50] <porkpie> Can anyone help please
[08-May-2008 20:41:28] * porkpie cannot find any info on google :S
[08-May-2008 20:45:38] <porkpie> Come on guy's you must know the answer or even a link will help :S
[08-May-2008 20:45:48] <porkpie>
[08-May-2008 20:50:51] <porkpie> man why does no one reply
[08-May-2008 20:56:49] <fgarat> did you check your zenbuild.log?
[08-May-2008 21:03:43] <porkpie> fgarat:it didn't create one
[08-May-2008 23:46:35] <hednod> can't... seem to figure out how to get zenoss to NOT monitor an ip address, once the service had been added to the host
[08-May-2008 23:46:47] <hednod> wants to monitor all teh ips it found via snmp, but id on't want it to monitor all three
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[09-May-2008 07:27:09] <nocturn> Hi again
[09-May-2008 07:27:26] <nocturn> I installed a couple of ZenPacks on my zenoss server
[09-May-2008 07:27:38] <nocturn> But how do I couple those cheks on actual hosts?
[09-May-2008 07:27:48] <nocturn> one is het httpMonitor to monitor a couple of websites
[09-May-2008 07:42:21] <nemo_> moaning
[09-May-2008 08:35:19] <nocturn> Found it, but it's not so straightforward...
[09-May-2008 08:35:28] <nocturn> Maybe I've been doing Nagios for too long.
[09-May-2008 08:44:46] <nemo_> its a new way of doing things
[09-May-2008 08:49:29] <nocturn> Yeah, actually it's pretty nice once you get to know how
[09-May-2008 12:50:30] <xinity> hy all
[09-May-2008 12:52:37] <xinity> may i ask a quick question ? i was wondering how to make a custom event report ?
[09-May-2008 14:33:18] <myrick> Hi Guys .. I have a Problem, maybe someone could help me pls ... I selected in DEVICES / zSnmpMonitorIgnore to TRUE, because the most of our Hosts dont have snmp ... and now ... it dont add automatically the IPROUTE which i need for the NETWORK MAP .... I would be so glad if someone could help me .. Please Guys.
[09-May-2008 14:43:47] <xinity> myrick: in the collector plugins what do you have regarding iproute ? if it's the snmp plugins then that's the point
[09-May-2008 14:44:09] <xinity> myrick: maybe you should use instad the cmd plugins for collecting iproutes
[09-May-2008 14:44:09] <myrick> xinity .. wait erm
[09-May-2008 14:44:57] <myrick> in collector plugins i have: smnp.newdevicemap and snmp.devicemap and snmp.interfacemap and snmp.routemap ...
[09-May-2008 14:45:40] <myrick> so i have to delete this snmp. plugins and add the cmd. plugins xinity =) ?
[09-May-2008 14:45:43] <xinity> myrick: that's the point
[09-May-2008 14:45:47] <xinity> myrick: yes
[09-May-2008 14:45:58] <myrick> kk which command make's the route of the devices ?
[09-May-2008 14:46:04] <xinity> myrick: for all devices with wich you don't want to use the snp
[09-May-2008 14:46:13] <xinity> myrick: let me check my instance
[09-May-2008 14:46:16] <myrick> i never want to use snmp =)
[09-May-2008 14:46:18] <myrick> kk thank you
[09-May-2008 14:47:26] <xinity> myrick: zenoss.cmd.linux.netstat_an and zenoss.cmd.linux.netstat_rn
[09-May-2008 14:47:47] <xinity> myrick: names speaks easily aren't they ?
[09-May-2008 14:49:14] <xinity> myrick: but hey , to uses these plugins, your zenoss server should be able to make an ssh connection to your host with the zenoss login :-)
[09-May-2008 14:49:26] <myrick> Yeah .. but I'm really new in Zenoss and are in an apprenticeship so ..
[09-May-2008 14:49:33] <myrick> xinity .. really nice .. thank you
[09-May-2008 14:49:39] <xinity> myrick: welcome
[09-May-2008 14:50:06] <myrick> xinity, have you something like ICQ or MSN ?
[09-May-2008 14:50:26] <xinity> myrick: i do ;-)
[09-May-2008 14:50:56] <myrick> Am i allowed to know the UIN ?
[09-May-2008 14:51:58] <xinity> myrick: you got it on notice
[09-May-2008 14:52:25] <myrick> mh .. pls per qry .. my Mac Os X Client don't show me the Notices
[09-May-2008 14:52:42] <xinity> myrick: what client are you using ?
[09-May-2008 14:52:50] <myrick> Colloquy
[09-May-2008 14:53:06] <xinity> it sucks, i've switched to irssi :-)
[09-May-2008 14:53:19] <myrick> i'll do the same now
[09-May-2008 14:53:28] <myrick> yeah .. in 5 min its Weekend
[09-May-2008 14:53:34] <myrick> Thank you .. now i have it =)
[09-May-2008 14:53:36] <xinity> myrick: lucky you are
[09-May-2008 22:40:38] <hednod> zenoss has automaticly detected a host on my network and now is monitoring services on it from multiple ips
[09-May-2008 22:40:41] <hednod> problem is
[09-May-2008 22:40:47] <hednod> i don't want it to monitor one of those services on all the ips
[09-May-2008 22:41:01] <hednod> how do i remove an ip from the service for that host
[09-May-2008 22:41:12] <hednod> lets me see the ips being montiored for that service but i cannot edit it
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[10-May-2008 06:12:49] <lordrage> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing zenoss on Debian
[10-May-2008 06:13:07] <lordrage> it says in the docs "Login as zenoss, edit the .bashrc and define a ZENHOME environment variable"
[10-May-2008 06:13:18] <lordrage> How do I login as zenoss without a password or anything?
[10-May-2008 10:26:24] <MrTux> lordrage: su?
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[10-May-2008 11:35:15] <lordrage> MrTux: nevermind, its fixed thanks
[10-May-2008 11:35:30] <lordrage> I actually need to retry, as it had a few errors building
[10-May-2008 15:56:16] <hti_pr1> got an issue with event mapping, I try to map a FAILED su event to /events/security/su/failed class which I have created, Each time I try to map it, it says 1 event does not have an event class key. Created 0 event mappings.
[10-May-2008 15:56:36] <hti_pr1> am i missing a step
[10-May-2008 16:08:44] <hti_pr1> is there a reason that all syslog events would have a null eventclasskey
[10-May-2008 16:17:31] <hti_pr1> is anyone alive in here
[10-May-2008 16:57:43] <hti_pr1> no one at all
[10-May-2008 19:42:28] <hednod> how do i change the ip address that a service checks on
[10-May-2008 19:42:40] <hednod> seem to be automaticly binding to every possibly ip address on the box its monitoring
[10-May-2008 19:43:10] <hednod> i only want it to monitor one ip address for the service in question
[10-May-2008 21:59:08] <hednod> this is ridiclous
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[11-May-2008 13:43:42] <tarjei> hi, I just installed zenos on RHEL5, but I had set a root pw for mysql before I did so. How can initialize the mysql db for zenoss and also tell zenoss which mysql pw/uid to use?
[11-May-2008 19:00:49] <masaghi> hi everybody. I want to get a MIB table from a SNMP agent and show it in zenoss. How can I do this????
[11-May-2008 19:02:08] <MrTux> masaghi: what do you mean with getting a mibtable from an agent? you can get values, mibtables will be delivered by the agent's manufacturer
[11-May-2008 19:06:41] <masaghi> MrTux:I mean how can I get an SNMP table's values from an agent using SNMP data collector and show it in zenoss in device OS tab.
[11-May-2008 19:08:44] <MrTux> masaghi: you need to write an own mapper for it, or if you have performance data you need to create a data template
[11-May-2008 19:10:02] <masaghi> MrTux: Would you please tell me in brief with step by strep instructions?
[11-May-2008 19:10:14] <MrTux> masaghi: for solution a or b?
[11-May-2008 19:10:33] <masaghi> MrTux: both of them
[11-May-2008 19:11:09] <masaghi> MrTux:I don't know the start point and the steps.
[11-May-2008 19:11:57] <xinity> masaghi: it's not that easy
[11-May-2008 19:12:03] <MrTux> masaghi: modeling have a look to http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/3ComDeviceModel/
[11-May-2008 19:12:18] <MrTux> masaghi: for performance template have a look to the guide
[11-May-2008 19:12:19] <adytum-bot> Title: 3Com Device Model - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2008 19:12:36] <MrTux> memo to me, ignore the bot
[11-May-2008 19:13:17] <MrTux> masaghi: in the device model you'll find the path to the files, so you can look how it works for os tab and hardware tab and so on
[11-May-2008 19:13:19] <masaghi> I 've seen this
[11-May-2008 19:13:49] <MrTux> i know the docs aren't that well, but i have had not yet time for writing additional docs...
[11-May-2008 19:14:09] <masaghi> I searched about 2 weeks
[11-May-2008 19:14:28] <masaghi> but I couldn't find something useful
[11-May-2008 19:14:28] <MrTux> and i'm not really happy about supporting zenoss in that way general, since their sales dep is a little bit crazy about prices
[11-May-2008 19:15:38] <masaghi> Could you please explain the solution by following InterfaceMap!
[11-May-2008 19:16:03] <MrTux> well, have a look to the examples, i cannot provide you more
[11-May-2008 19:16:35] <masaghi> ok
[11-May-2008 19:16:40] <masaghi> which examples?
[11-May-2008 19:17:19] <MrTux> InterfaceMap.py
[11-May-2008 19:18:19] <masaghi> Is it straight forward? I 've seen this file too and it's more different than 3Com Model!
[11-May-2008 19:19:05] <MrTux> well, you can see the concepts in there, everything else is on your own
[11-May-2008 19:19:24] <masaghi> Thanks a lot MrTux
[11-May-2008 19:19:33] <masaghi> May I have your email address
[11-May-2008 19:19:49] <masaghi> I want to develop a zenpack and distribute it
[11-May-2008 19:20:03] <MrTux> te@te3networks.de
[11-May-2008 19:20:11] <masaghi> to make it available for all
[11-May-2008 19:20:18] <masaghi> thanks a lot
[11-May-2008 19:20:21] <MrTux> i'll also publish one, in some time
[11-May-2008 19:20:41] <masaghi> Nice to meet you
[11-May-2008 19:21:06] <MrTux> may i ask for what you're working on?
[11-May-2008 19:22:06] <masaghi> I'm using zenoss to manage a network
[11-May-2008 19:22:24] <MrTux> do you have a special vendor on your screen?
[11-May-2008 19:22:49] <masaghi> and I want to use it to get some additional info from snmp agents that have been extended
[11-May-2008 19:22:54] <masaghi> No
[11-May-2008 19:23:00] <masaghi> we have no vendor
[11-May-2008 19:23:06] <MrTux> ok
[11-May-2008 19:23:22] <MrTux> i'm working on foundry devices gettin into zenoss
[11-May-2008 19:23:31] <masaghi> we use LTSP with thin clients with embedded os
[11-May-2008 19:23:42] <masaghi> That's great
[11-May-2008 19:24:23] <MrTux> but i think i'll license the pack to disallow the use with the enterprise editions..
[11-May-2008 19:24:57] <masaghi> why?
[11-May-2008 19:26:05] <MrTux> they wanted 60k$ for 1000 devices, and that is somehow the same price for openview, and for this sum there is now enough backflow to the opensource community
[11-May-2008 19:26:42] <masaghi> yeah, you right
[11-May-2008 19:28:43] <MrTux> and that is the sum for one year, so i cannot really think they now what they do
[11-May-2008 19:29:00] <MrTux> as i told them my opinion, they got rude, so i'm sorry
[11-May-2008 19:29:36] <MrTux> i will not support these guys, but helping people on the same way like my way
[11-May-2008 19:30:06] <masaghi> I think open source should be helpful for all people
[11-May-2008 19:30:40] <masaghi> especially for whom they believe freedom of software use and creation
[11-May-2008 19:30:56] <masaghi> not in the commercial ways!
[11-May-2008 19:31:18] <MrTux> i've no problem to pay for special features, i wanted only the enterprise packs.. and they told me this is not possible
[11-May-2008 19:31:29] <MrTux> so i will not made it possible to them to use my work
[11-May-2008 19:31:52] <masaghi> you are right
[11-May-2008 19:32:31] <masaghi> you make your effort and this is your right to get money for that.
[11-May-2008 19:34:49] <masaghi> MrTux: I'm so glad to meet you. Sure I will contact you. Bye for now.
[11-May-2008 19:34:59] <MrTux> bye
[11-May-2008 19:36:06] <xinity> MrTux: you can't licence the pack
[11-May-2008 19:36:36] <MrTux> xinity: i know. i need to license a bunch of things i do not want..
[11-May-2008 19:36:42] <xinity> MrTux: as you use the opensource version on Zenoss, you must deliver your packs according to the GPL licence
[11-May-2008 19:37:18] <MrTux> xinity: well, why? i use only interfaces, it's not a derivative of zenoss, i can choose any license i want..
[11-May-2008 19:38:08] <xinity> MrTux: it's not a fork right, but it's build on zenoss right ?
[11-May-2008 19:39:31] <MrTux> well, it's an addon, using interfaces.. i do not deliver any sources from zenoss, so... many products build on linux but arent opensource or gpl
[11-May-2008 19:41:24] <xinity> MrTux: this way , that's right
[11-May-2008 19:41:28] <MrTux> the enterprisepacks are also not gpl and are based on zenoss..
[11-May-2008 19:41:39] <MrTux> so why shouldn't i go the same way?
[11-May-2008 19:41:54] <xinity> MrTux: well, your choice
[11-May-2008 19:45:23] <masaghi> xinity: what is your solution? why it is not easy???
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[12-May-2008 11:35:30] <Ozux> Hi, Any body here that could install ZenOSS on debian lenny or sid?
[12-May-2008 11:35:46] <Ozux> I get make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[12-May-2008 11:35:56] <Ozux> and I installed python-dev
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[12-May-2008 12:36:08] <kop_> I'm hacking on an SnmpPlugin for the DataCollector
[12-May-2008 12:36:53] <kop_> does anyone know if there's a quick way to test it, other than deleting/adding a device?
[12-May-2008 12:37:23] <MrTux> running the modeler
[12-May-2008 12:37:44] <kop_> "Manage -> Model Device" doesn't seem to do anything with my new plugin
[12-May-2008 12:38:26] <xinity> kop_: run the modeler command line, rather than the gui interface
[12-May-2008 12:39:48] <kop_> aah I see
[12-May-2008 12:40:03] <kop_> great
[12-May-2008 12:40:40] <xinity> kop_:
[12-May-2008 12:53:16] <kop_> hmm strange, the HPDeviceMap obviously HAS run at some point, but now it doesn't
[12-May-2008 12:56:55] <kop_> its condition() returns device.snmpOid.startswith('.1.3.6.1.4.1.232') but now that turns out as false
[12-May-2008 12:57:50] <kop_> snmpOid is '.1.3.6.1.4.1.311', which is where Microsoft starts
[12-May-2008 12:59:57] <kop_> I can't get my head around how the HP properties were once set. *Why* and *when* did device.snmpOid equal .1.3.6.1.4.1.232 ?
[12-May-2008 13:04:24] <xinity> kop_: have you taken a look at hp snmp mibs ?
[12-May-2008 15:05:48] <magnachef> has anyone run into an issue where they are trying to create a user who needs to use the event list and move devices to history, but not have full admin rights?
[12-May-2008 15:18:43] <magnachef> I essentially need a NOC user where they can deal with events and manage the event list, but I don't want them to have access to user settings, etc
[12-May-2008 15:40:15] <bnafziger> magnachef, yes ... same issue here ... ask about the zen operator role zen pack ... 2.2 release may 21 .. may just be enterprise which we are ...
[12-May-2008 15:46:42] <magnachef> that's a bit dissapointing
[12-May-2008 15:46:55] <magnachef> so the Zen pack doesn't come out until may 21?
[12-May-2008 15:51:18] <magnachef> I'm looking at http://localhost:8080/zport/manage_access
[12-May-2008 15:51:27] <magnachef> seems like new roles can be defined within there
[12-May-2008 15:56:08] <magnachef> ...now to figure out what permissions to give to this "operator" role
[12-May-2008 16:01:30] <magnachef> can someone please give me some pointers for setting up this Operator status within manage_access screen?
[12-May-2008 19:49:54] <uadmin_> Hello All, Can anyone tell me how to take complete backup of the Zenoss
[12-May-2008 20:01:28] <mrayzenoss> Settings->Backup
[12-May-2008 20:01:42] <mrayzenoss> the Admin Guide has instructions for the CLI versions
[12-May-2008 20:03:27] <uadmin_> ok thank you
[12-May-2008 20:03:38] <uadmin_> i will go throught the admin guide
[12-May-2008 20:12:10] <bitshuffler_> Hello
[12-May-2008 20:13:29] <bitshuffler_> Could anyone please tell me if there already exists some Zenoss 2.1 release that works with Python 2.5 and / or if Zenoss 2.2 will do it?
[12-May-2008 20:14:24] <mrayzenoss> bitshuffler_: Sorry no.
[12-May-2008 20:14:42] <mrayzenoss> We're hamstrung on an older version of Zope that doesn't run on 2.5
[12-May-2008 20:14:54] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: as in you don't know or as in zenoss 2.2 wont work with python 2.5?
[12-May-2008 20:15:23] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss 2.2 won't work with Python 2.5 because our version of Zope won't run on Python 2.5
[12-May-2008 20:15:38] <MrTux> so use a newer version of zope
[12-May-2008 20:16:05] <mrayzenoss> MrTux: We've tried, it's hard
[12-May-2008 20:16:21] <mrayzenoss> we're pretty tightly stuck on the permissions of Zope 2.8, and 2.10 and later changed them
[12-May-2008 20:16:31] <mrayzenoss> it's a big pain, we're gonna fix it
[12-May-2008 20:16:47] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: ah, i see. Do you have any plans to switch your zope version? My problem is that in most / all current systems 2.5 is supported and 2.4.
[12-May-2008 20:17:01] <bitshuffler_> heh, you beat me to it
[12-May-2008 20:17:20] <mrayzenoss> we do plan on it, I know it's a pain. I'm the community manager and it's blocking us off of newer distros
[12-May-2008 20:17:36] <mrayzenoss> which is why we're delivering a "stack" installer for 2.2
[12-May-2008 20:17:46] <mrayzenoss> which has all our dependencies wrapped up
[12-May-2008 20:18:01] <mrayzenoss> Python/Zope/Zenoss
[12-May-2008 20:18:20] <mrayzenoss> which is good and bad
[12-May-2008 20:18:33] <bitshuffler_> which kinda defeats the purpos of shared libraries and burdens you with loads of work i might think.
[12-May-2008 20:19:02] <mrayzenoss> bitshuffler_: A bit, but it also negates the need to go crazy supporting 20 different linuxes
[12-May-2008 20:19:20] <mrayzenoss> like I said, good and bad. We know which Python/Zope are there
[12-May-2008 20:19:34] <mrayzenoss> but it keeps us blocked out of proper integration into Linux distributions
[12-May-2008 20:19:37] <mrayzenoss> which is a goal of mine
[12-May-2008 20:19:50] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: have you had a look at the suse build service - makes it pretty easy to distribute rpms for many distros via repositories & included mirror infrastructure?
[12-May-2008 20:20:01] <mrayzenoss> bitshuffler_: yup, I'm on it
[12-May-2008 20:20:05] <mrayzenoss> it's in my todo
[12-May-2008 20:20:12] <mrayzenoss> I've got a lot of todos
[12-May-2008 20:20:44] <mrayzenoss> stack install for 2.2, then a DMG for OSX and a Solaris build, then revisit getting Zope upgraded
[12-May-2008 20:20:58] <bitshuffler_> can you make a rough _unofficial_ guess when this will work - like xmas, 2 years on zenoss 6.2 ?
[12-May-2008 20:21:06] <mrayzenoss> well, I've been here 5 weeks
[12-May-2008 20:21:19] <bitshuffler_> oh
[12-May-2008 20:21:30] <mrayzenoss> we're talking about 2.3 now, I'm pushing for the Zope upgrade
[12-May-2008 20:21:38] <mrayzenoss> which will be the Python upgrade as well
[12-May-2008 20:22:08] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 is scheduled for fall I believe
[12-May-2008 20:22:40] <mrayzenoss> be back later, gotta go to a meeting
[12-May-2008 20:22:47] <bitshuffler_> fall sounds very good - i just recently discovered zenoss but with only 2.4 it's a no go here sadly.
[12-May-2008 20:22:58] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: thanks a lot for taking your time!
[12-May-2008 20:26:16] <mrayzenoss> no problem
[12-May-2008 22:51:09] <swaheali> Has anyone ever monitored windows directory size with Zenoss?
[12-May-2008 22:53:45] <swaheali> Is it possible to do custom WMI queries with Zenoss?
[12-May-2008 23:02:56] <swaheali> Is it possible to do custom WMI queries with Zenoss?
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[13-May-2008 06:28:39] <nemo_> interesting
[13-May-2008 06:28:42] <nemo_> Loading...
[13-May-2008 06:28:42] <nemo_> | Core | Morgana
[13-May-2008 06:29:00] <nemo_> thats what my zenoss install says today, auto uprgades ?
[13-May-2008 11:25:48] <nocturn> Is it possible to have a custom notification in ZenOSS?
[13-May-2008 11:25:56] <nocturn> I would like to send alerts over Jabber
[13-May-2008 11:26:18] <magnachef> I would think so
[13-May-2008 11:26:33] <magnachef> I'm pretty sure that there is a jabber Perl module as well
[13-May-2008 11:28:31] <monrad> we hacked together an snpp daemon which can send out sms, jabber and irc notifications
[13-May-2008 11:28:38] <monrad> snpp is a pretty simple protocol
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[13-May-2008 13:28:05] <nocturn> I'll take a further look at it then...
[13-May-2008 15:52:10] <prioret> good afternoon
[13-May-2008 15:53:08] <prioret> can some one give me some guidance? I'm monitoring centos 5.1 with net-snmp and I'm trying to get a process listing
[13-May-2008 15:56:13] <nemo_> collector plugins
[13-May-2008 15:56:22] <nemo_> thats my advice, and google is your friend
[13-May-2008 15:57:10] <prioret> well I tried remodeling with the ssh instead of SNMP and that gave me even less info
[13-May-2008 15:57:53] <nemo_> well i told you whats going on advice is free
[13-May-2008 15:59:03] <prioret> is the shh method a "collector plugin?"
[13-May-2008 15:59:11] <nemo_> no
[13-May-2008 16:02:42] <prioret> ok, i understand what you mean by collector plug in. the device class is using all the available snmp collector plug ins available with core.
[13-May-2008 16:05:17] <nemo_> incl the one thats called HRSWinstalled ( or similar ) ?
[13-May-2008 16:05:21] <prioret> that being said, none of the names on the zenoss.snmp collector plugins seem to get processes, there is a zenoss.cmd.linux.process that would lead me to believe that could do it, but that with SSH?
[13-May-2008 16:05:58] <prioret> there is HRWSInstalledMap
[13-May-2008 16:07:02] <prioret> that apears to list installed SW, which is cool, but not what processes are running
[13-May-2008 16:09:14] <nemo_> ok going home
[13-May-2008 16:19:41] <Zenoss_usr> can anyone tell me,the number of days that zenoss will keep the data without the need of any backup scripts?
[13-May-2008 16:20:27] <Zenoss_usr> the data i mean is the graphs,reports,and history of events
[13-May-2008 17:29:06] <luisfqs> exit
[13-May-2008 17:29:29] <luisfqs> #help
[13-May-2008 17:35:08] <zenops> I have a bad oid message in one of my RSM, I know the value to change it to but I can't find the location of the existing OID to change to the right value, can anyone help?
[13-May-2008 17:40:40] <Zenoss_usr> can anyone tell me,the number of days that zenoss will keep the data without the need of any backup scripts?
[13-May-2008 17:40:42] <Zenoss_usr> the data i mean is the graphs,reports,and history of events
[13-May-2008 18:18:43] <Zenoss_usr> How can we stop Zenoss
[13-May-2008 18:20:45] <xinity> service zenoss stop , if you are on rpm based distro
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[13-May-2008 18:30:37] <Zenoss_usr> thank you
[13-May-2008 18:37:22] <xinity> rtfm my friend
[13-May-2008 18:40:51] <aedaemoen> hey guys, anyone else find the rpms for RHEL 5 to be unworking?
[13-May-2008 18:42:43] <aedaemoen> ( ive tried the latest stable release rpms, as well as the sprint rpms) and both of them are failing during the %pre
[13-May-2008 18:46:49] <xinity> aedaemoen: what's the output error ?
[13-May-2008 18:47:08] <aedaemoen> xinity: dont remember, but it fails to create the users home dir, which is rather funny :-D
[13-May-2008 19:01:13] <xinity> aedaemoen: selinux actived maybe ?
[13-May-2008 19:06:08] <aedaemoen> xinity: what would SEL have to do with an rpm installation failure ?
[13-May-2008 19:06:16] <aedaemoen> if SEL prevents it, then thats a very poorly written rpm
[13-May-2008 19:17:21] <xinity> aedaemoen: don't know, juste a clue, beside is there any already created home dir for zenoss user when you try to install using rpms
[13-May-2008 19:27:05] <aedaemoen> xinity: nope. clean installed system and it fails out
[13-May-2008 20:18:45] <prioret> I installed on a cento 5.1 x64 via RPM yesterday and i had no problem
[13-May-2008 23:29:21] <b52deb> anybody there ?
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[14-May-2008 05:33:40] <xinity> i've just received an zenoss from zenoss team says , upgrading zenoss enterprise, what does this mean ?
[14-May-2008 07:37:38] <nemo_> i think it means upgrade zenoss ?
[14-May-2008 08:11:30] <tsurc> with the centos 5 rpm for 2.1.3, after install what is the default user/password? I've searched and searched but I can't find a thing?
[14-May-2008 08:11:58] <nemo_> i am leaving this channel you
[14-May-2008 08:12:00] <nemo_> y)
[14-May-2008 08:12:05] <nemo_> y0*
[14-May-2008 08:12:28] <nemo_> nothing but silly questions and more importantly, fuck all usefull replies to any question i ever asked
[14-May-2008 08:12:40] <nemo_> tsurc, RTFM , no you didnt
[14-May-2008 08:12:53] <nemo_> bye all, sorry it had to end this way
[14-May-2008 08:13:45] <tsurc> not in the install documents here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ or in the FAQ
[14-May-2008 08:14:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Install on EL5 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-May-2008 08:16:51] <tsurc> anyone??
[14-May-2008 08:17:16] <tsurc> please?
[14-May-2008 08:31:10] <tsurc> brain figured it out: admin/zenoss. don't know why I didn't try that before obvious really
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[14-May-2008 14:20:35] <zenops> I am using the latest vmware image of zenoss, I have a default installation with 27 devices, 2 of those are cisco routers and 6 cisco switches
[14-May-2008 14:21:05] <zenops> I am getting the following messages since my install "threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded" in all my interfaces
[14-May-2008 14:21:46] <zenops> the router are by no means right now passing any traffic...
[14-May-2008 14:22:08] <zenops> maybe 7% utilization
[14-May-2008 14:23:13] <zenops> any suggestions?
[14-May-2008 15:26:24] <Zenoss_usr> Hello All,Can anyone tell me how many number of days does Zenoss keep the backup of the data being shown in the graps and reports?
[14-May-2008 15:26:44] <MrTux> Zenoss_usr: google for round robin database
[14-May-2008 15:31:42] <Zenoss_usr> Thanks MrTux
[14-May-2008 15:32:05] <Zenoss_usr> is the number of days configurable??
[14-May-2008 15:41:40] <Zenoss_usr> does the zenbackup.py script backup the /perf folder too??
[14-May-2008 16:06:44] <tripitaka> Hi, I've just installed zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.x86_64.rpm on a rhel5.1 x86_64 machine, and when I run the init script I get "/opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory" and the app silently fails to start
[14-May-2008 16:35:02] <zenops> When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 16:50:41] <wassy121> Hi there. Anyone have tips for debugging/resolving the intermittent alerts I am getting stating "Process not running: httpd".
[14-May-2008 16:50:57] <wassy121> Sometimes it will be quiet for days/weeks, then it will go on and off 16 times in an hour.
[14-May-2008 16:51:31] <wassy121> While the httpd process remains running the entire time. We are monitoring other processes on the machines as well, and they have no problems reporting proper functionality.
[14-May-2008 16:51:52] <wassy121> I admit this is a busy webserver, so apache threads are probably created/destroyed quickly/often.
[14-May-2008 18:47:40] <zenops> When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 19:44:12] <zenops> When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 19:55:01] <flea> w/o flame, can i ask which might be the preferred install for zenoss on ubuntu server >= 7.10
[14-May-2008 19:57:57] <Zenoss123> To how many days will the zenoss keep backup of the data of the servers it monitors in the Mysql db
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[15-May-2008 11:54:54] <indika> how can I install zenoss to diffren location like /opt/zenoss than /usr/local/zenoss with rhel 5
[15-May-2008 11:56:13] <indika> Is possible to do it with rhel .rpm installation
[15-May-2008 12:58:57] <_chris_> indika: it's not possible
[15-May-2008 14:35:11] <crashdummyMCH> can anyone help me with getting zenoss to run portscans and match the portscan results with the Application classes?
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[15-May-2008 14:56:32] <magnachef> is there a way to set the Event Console to refresh by default?
[15-May-2008 14:56:41] <magnachef> I'm sure there is, I just can't find out how
[15-May-2008 15:36:50] <mib_p3uz1o> Hello, if I have a notification with "Bad OID" and I have the installation, no Zenpacks, Mibs or plugin added, where do I go to correct the oid information?
[15-May-2008 15:37:11] <mib_p3uz1o> I meant I have a default installation
[15-May-2008 16:37:02] <JVirus> Hello
[15-May-2008 16:39:27] <magnachef> mib_p3: try rediscovering/remodeling the device, it's trying to poll an OID that no longer exists
[15-May-2008 16:40:16] <JVirus> %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 16:40:22] <JVirus> I have VMWare for the GNU distro for Zenoss. I am a noob to linux but I dont think its a linux issue. My snmp is functioning fine, no errors from the servers in zenoss but it is not collecting data anymore. I used the command: df in linux to make sure I had hard drive space and it looks fine. (22%
[15-May-2008 16:40:25] <JVirus> %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 17:19:26] <JVirus> help?
[15-May-2008 17:41:26] <JVirus> I have VMWare for the GNU distro for Zenoss. I am a noob to linux but I dont think its a linux issue. My snmp is functioning fine, no errors from the servers in zenoss but it is not collecting data anymore. I used the command: df in linux to make sure I had hard drive space and it looks fine. (22%
[15-May-2008 17:41:28] <JVirus> %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 18:03:29] <pat2man> anyone seen this with the .deb package?aemon: zeoctl Error: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py is not an existing path
[15-May-2008 20:59:09] <JVirus> anyone around that understands the vmware setup for zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:02:24] <mrayzenoss> like how?
[15-May-2008 21:31:47] <JVirus> sorry
[15-May-2008 21:31:56] <JVirus> are you still there mrayzenoss
[15-May-2008 21:32:13] <JVirus> I am having a weird issue with zenoss in vmware
[15-May-2008 21:34:16] <JVirus> ok, ill just say my issue, and ill stay in the room
[15-May-2008 21:35:42] <JVirus> I have had zenoss installed to vmware for a while now
[15-May-2008 21:35:45] <JVirus> works perfect
[15-May-2008 21:35:58] <JVirus> using hamachi as my vpn
[15-May-2008 21:36:23] <JVirus> worked great
[15-May-2008 21:36:44] <JVirus> but all of a sudden it stopped collecting snmp data from my 5 servers
[15-May-2008 21:37:20] <JVirus> thru the linux command I can not ping the hamachi IPs, but when I load the zenoss website it says it is connected and the servers are ready
[15-May-2008 21:37:26] <JVirus> so it sees them somehow
[15-May-2008 21:37:31] <pat2man> JVirus: can you run snmpwalk on those servers from within zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:37:37] <JVirus> it fails
[15-May-2008 21:38:39] <pat2man> sounds like the real issue is that it is not showing the devices as down, since it cant snmpwalk OR ping
[15-May-2008 21:38:52] <JVirus> wow, hold on a sec
[15-May-2008 21:39:36] <JVirus> its weird
[15-May-2008 21:39:44] <JVirus> some of my servers are working for snmp walk
[15-May-2008 21:39:47] <JVirus> others are not
[15-May-2008 21:39:52] <JVirus> but none collect data
[15-May-2008 21:40:25] <JVirus> I am checking my sonicwall logs and I am seeing a bunch of UDP packet drops
[15-May-2008 21:41:56] <pat2man> I assume zenperfsnmp is running...
[15-May-2008 21:44:02] <q2srw77> Just added a new Mib to Zenoss and created a new Template. Under perf the graph that I created is listed however all it says is Missing RRD File. Where can I find instructions on creating graphs from new MIBS?
[15-May-2008 21:45:36] <JVirus> zenperfsnmp?
[15-May-2008 21:45:57] <JVirus> sorry, I am new to networking beyond routing my internet
[15-May-2008 21:46:37] <JVirus> on my servers?
[15-May-2008 21:46:43] <JVirus> to relay the snmp info ?
[15-May-2008 21:48:37] <q2srw77> to pull the snmp info into the graph.
[15-May-2008 21:48:45] <JVirus> I use SNMP Informant on my windows servers
[15-May-2008 21:48:55] <JVirus> oh, does that run with zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:49:10] <JVirus> I JUST INSTALLED WHATEVER WAS DEFAULT WITH THE VMWARE DOWNLOAD
[15-May-2008 21:49:15] <JVirus> oops, sorry, caps
[15-May-2008 21:52:23] <pat2man> so basically once you import the mib you need to set up a new template with data sources and graphs and then bind it to your device
[15-May-2008 21:52:46] <pat2man> there is a document somewhere on the zenoss site
[15-May-2008 21:54:00] <pat2man> JVirus: under settings under daemons check to make sure everything is running
[15-May-2008 21:54:04] <q2srw77> yeah just need a new template which I setup, however must have missed something.
[15-May-2008 21:55:50] <JVirus> ok
[15-May-2008 21:56:03] <JVirus> zenping red light and zencommand red light
[15-May-2008 21:57:32] <JVirus> brb
[15-May-2008 21:57:50] <pat2man> JVirus: hit the start button on both
[15-May-2008 21:57:56] <pat2man> q2srw77: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch12s04.html
[15-May-2008 21:58:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-May-2008 22:09:30] <JVirus> ok
[15-May-2008 22:09:32] <JVirus> I started them
[15-May-2008 22:09:39] <JVirus> is there a good way to test them
[15-May-2008 22:10:16] <pat2man> if they are down it should show up with the zenoss issues portlet
[15-May-2008 22:10:35] <pat2man> or do you mean against a single device?
[15-May-2008 22:10:47] <JVirus> I just mean to test zenoss collecting the data
[15-May-2008 22:10:59] <JVirus> they servers have never shown being doen
[15-May-2008 22:11:02] <JVirus> down
[15-May-2008 22:11:10] <pat2man> yeah the zenping needs to be running
[15-May-2008 22:11:14] <JVirus> the graphs were just empty
[15-May-2008 22:11:36] <JVirus> ok
[15-May-2008 22:11:49] <pat2man> you can test zenperfsnmp from the command line, I assume ssh is set up on the vmware image
[15-May-2008 22:11:54] <JVirus> now 3 of my servers got a error report
[15-May-2008 22:12:04] <pat2man> so zenping is now running
[15-May-2008 22:12:13] <JVirus> says my server is down
[15-May-2008 22:12:13] <pat2man> and since it cannot ping the devices it is generating an error
[15-May-2008 22:12:23] <JVirus> but 2 are "working"
[15-May-2008 22:12:31] <JVirus> but I dont know how long to wait to get data
[15-May-2008 22:13:05] <JVirus> what is zenperfsnmp
[15-May-2008 22:13:16] <pat2man> from the command line on the zenoss box run "zenperfsnmp -d <your server> -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:13:19] <pat2man> "
[15-May-2008 22:13:31] <JVirus> <your server> = ip correct?
[15-May-2008 22:13:34] <pat2man> yup
[15-May-2008 22:13:39] <JVirus> with the " "
[15-May-2008 22:13:43] <pat2man> no ""
[15-May-2008 22:13:48] <JVirus> didnt think so
[15-May-2008 22:13:58] <pat2man> the -v 10 should show some useful data
[15-May-2008 22:14:42] <JVirus> command not found
[15-May-2008 22:15:10] <pat2man> ah, you need to run "su zenoss" first
[15-May-2008 22:15:42] <JVirus> permission denied
[15-May-2008 22:15:49] <pat2man> hmm
[15-May-2008 22:15:57] <JVirus> I did "su zenoss run"
[15-May-2008 22:16:07] <pat2man> oh just su zenoss
[15-May-2008 22:16:24] <JVirus> bash-3.00$
[15-May-2008 22:16:39] <pat2man> so now you are the zenoss user, run zenperfsnmp -d <your server> -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:16:54] <pat2man> err zenperfsnmp run -d <your server> -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:17:18] <JVirus> command not found
[15-May-2008 22:17:42] <pat2man> gmm
[15-May-2008 22:17:45] <pat2man> *hmm
[15-May-2008 22:17:45] <JVirus> ?
[15-May-2008 22:17:48] <JVirus> oh
[15-May-2008 22:17:48] <JVirus> lol
[15-May-2008 22:19:11] <JVirus> im going to call sonicwall support too just in case, but I will be on hold for 45 min before they talk to me
[15-May-2008 22:19:30] <JVirus> since I see those dropped packets for UDP
[15-May-2008 22:21:50] <pat2man> makes sense
[15-May-2008 22:22:26] <JVirus> I wish it did to me
[15-May-2008 22:22:26] <JVirus>
[15-May-2008 22:22:56] <JVirus> All I know is when I set up snmp I had to make it udp or something
[15-May-2008 22:23:01] <JVirus> so I figure that is an issue
[15-May-2008 22:23:03] <JVirus> lol
[15-May-2008 22:31:47] <JVirus> its just weird how hamachi is all set up, running, everythings online and zenoss said that half are down
[15-May-2008 22:34:15] <pat2man> well you said you could not ping from the zenoss box, right?
[15-May-2008 22:35:39] <JVirus> they wouldnt no
[15-May-2008 22:36:36] <JVirus> well see
[15-May-2008 22:36:39] <JVirus> thats what is weird
[15-May-2008 22:36:46] <JVirus> now I can ping half of them
[15-May-2008 22:36:56] <JVirus> but those half still dont receive the snmp data
[15-May-2008 22:37:22] <pat2man> are they behind the firewall?
[15-May-2008 22:37:28] <JVirus> yeah
[15-May-2008 22:37:37] <JVirus> all servers are the same
[15-May-2008 22:37:44] <JVirus> and my network here is behind a sonicwall
[15-May-2008 22:37:56] <JVirus> but I havnt had issues untill just recently
[15-May-2008 22:38:14] <JVirus> and the sonicwall is new, I am thinking that is it now. But not totally sure on how its acting
[15-May-2008 22:38:51] <pat2man> yeah, if you cant ping some servers then I would check the firewall
[15-May-2008 22:39:55] <JVirus> yeah
[15-May-2008 22:40:04] <JVirus> but you would think all servers would have the same issue
[15-May-2008 22:40:24] <JVirus> its the same commands being ran
[15-May-2008 22:41:33] <pat2man> you would think....
[15-May-2008 22:44:52] <JVirus> does an snmp walk do something different than the command that gathers the snmp info for the graphs
[15-May-2008 22:44:55] <JVirus> ?
[15-May-2008 22:54:48] <pat2man> well snmpwalk just grabs a small portion of the info
[15-May-2008 22:55:13] <pat2man> snmpperfmon grabs everything every 5 minutes and stores the important info as performance data
[15-May-2008 23:04:02] <JVirus> and snmpperfmon was not working on my linix distr
[15-May-2008 23:04:04] <JVirus> distro
[15-May-2008 23:04:19] <JVirus> kinda scarry
[15-May-2008 23:04:42] <JVirus> but I am the only one with access to this box so, I know there were no changes to that
[15-May-2008 23:05:27] <JVirus> still on hold waiting for sonicwall support
[15-May-2008 23:05:31] <JVirus> bleh
[15-May-2008 23:06:02] <JVirus> oh no it was zenperfsnmp that was a bad command
[15-May-2008 23:06:23] <JVirus> I dunno, I just want to quit my job
[15-May-2008 23:08:32] <JVirus> The nice thing is that it is thru vmware, so I can just copy the vmware files to a machine off my network and see if it runs ok
[15-May-2008 23:48:53] <JVirus> can I force zenoss to grab snmp data instead of sitting around for 5 minutes
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[16-May-2008 14:31:04] <magnachef> pin mpmccallum
[16-May-2008 14:31:26] <magnachef> blah, I mean "ping npmccallum"
[16-May-2008 14:31:37] <npmccallum> magnachef: yo
[16-May-2008 14:32:01] <magnachef> I'm wondering if I can get my hands on your updated Net-App zenpack?
[16-May-2008 14:32:10] <npmccallum> its on the website
[16-May-2008 14:32:21] <magnachef> version 1.0?
[16-May-2008 14:33:14] <magnachef> ahhh...NetApp Volume
[16-May-2008 14:34:25] <magnachef> thanks...has anyone been able to get the perf graph working for the regular NetApp zenpack
[16-May-2008 14:48:22] <malbon> hola folks
[16-May-2008 14:48:38] <magnachef> is there any issues that I now have two /Devices/Storage/NetApp classes?
[16-May-2008 14:48:58] <malbon> quick question for devs, I have my WMI connection working, how do I define templates using WMI as a data source?
[16-May-2008 14:52:19] <pat2man> malbon: you have to create a command data source and run the wmi tool, take a look at the existing wmi zenpacks for a good way to do it
[16-May-2008 14:54:06] <malbon> pat2man: thanks, I want to avoid using commands wherever possible.
[16-May-2008 14:55:02] <pat2man> well its just the wmi command, you need to tell it the server and username, etc. the wmi zenpacks do it quite well
[16-May-2008 14:55:51] <malbon> so what does zenwin do?
[16-May-2008 14:57:28] <pat2man> heh, dont know exactly, something about modeling
[16-May-2008 14:58:51] <npmccallum> magnachef: There should be one that is Netapp and one that is NetApp, no?
[16-May-2008 14:59:13] <magnachef> They were both captial "A"
[16-May-2008 14:59:26] <magnachef> but that was from having the other NetApp zenpack installed
[16-May-2008 15:00:35] <magnachef> one has a "Name" of NetApp, and one (yours) has a Name of FileSystem
[16-May-2008 15:02:41] <malbon> pat2man: it's ok, I'll read the source. Thanks for the help.
[16-May-2008 15:03:35] <npmccallum> magnachef: oh
[16-May-2008 15:04:30] <mib_jes4ca> Hi, I am using the vmare install, I have not added any zenpacks or mibs, I am getting this messages from my routers..unrouted VLAN 34 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1944.34
[16-May-2008 15:04:44] <magnachef> npmccallum: are you using both zenpacks, or just yours?
[16-May-2008 15:04:55] <npmccallum> magnachef: neither at the moment
[16-May-2008 15:05:03] <mib_jes4ca> Where do I find these settings to be fixed?
[16-May-2008 15:05:06] <magnachef> heh
[16-May-2008 15:05:27] <mib_jes4ca> since is the default install, I just can't find these settigs
[16-May-2008 15:05:54] <magnachef> you need to go to the device class
[16-May-2008 15:06:03] <magnachef> then click on Templates
[16-May-2008 15:07:15] <magnachef> you may you then may need to create a new rule to filter out your VLAN type interfaces, or just change the threshold
[16-May-2008 15:07:31] <magnachef> so you would probably want to start with ethernetCsmacd
[16-May-2008 15:07:46] <mib_jes4ca> here.speed / 8 * .75
[16-May-2008 15:08:05] <mib_jes4ca> that is my setting, I would rather filter out the vlans
[16-May-2008 15:08:10] <magnachef> ok
[16-May-2008 15:08:23] <magnachef> so go to device class: /Devices/Network
[16-May-2008 15:08:37] <mib_jes4ca> your idea of the vlans is the right one
[16-May-2008 15:09:12] <magnachef> then create a new template, with the name of the interface type (as defined by zenoss) probably something like "vlan"
[16-May-2008 15:10:10] <magnachef> then just leave everything blank in that template (under data sources, thresholds, and graph definitions) and you should be done
[16-May-2008 15:10:32] <magnachef> I've done this for propVirtual interfaces
[16-May-2008 15:10:32] <mib_jes4ca> wow !!
[16-May-2008 15:10:39] <mib_jes4ca> that easy eh?
[16-May-2008 15:10:49] <magnachef> that's all ya gotta do!
[16-May-2008 15:11:00] <mib_jes4ca> awesome..let me give it a spin 11
[16-May-2008 15:11:07] <magnachef> good luck
[16-May-2008 15:11:16] <mib_jes4ca> thanks
[16-May-2008 15:11:19] <magnachef> don't forget to clear out those old events after setting up the template
[16-May-2008 15:11:20] <magnachef> np
[16-May-2008 15:11:27] <mib_jes4ca> sure..
[16-May-2008 15:14:25] <mib_jes4ca> does the template needs to bound?
[16-May-2008 15:14:51] <magnachef> I don't think so
[16-May-2008 15:15:07] <mib_jes4ca> What does bind means to the system?
[16-May-2008 15:15:23] <magnachef> heh, not sure
[16-May-2008 15:15:29] <mib_jes4ca> ok..
[16-May-2008 15:15:40] <magnachef> maybe someone else can chime in on that
[16-May-2008 15:16:47] <magnachef> npm: I'm getting a zenoss error after remodeling the device, then clicking on the perf tab
[16-May-2008 15:18:32] <magnachef> hmmm...only for one of my netapp devices...
[16-May-2008 15:19:58] <mib_jes4ca> I am also getting this: Error reading value for "unrouted VLAN 193" on some.router (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.296 is bad)
[16-May-2008 15:20:21] <mib_jes4ca> where is this oid located, again this is the default install
[16-May-2008 15:20:30] <mib_jes4ca> I know the value it needs
[16-May-2008 15:20:39] <mib_jes4ca> I just do not know where is stored
[16-May-2008 15:21:02] <magnachef> should be within the template
[16-May-2008 15:25:19] <magnachef> npm: nevermind, got it working...just waiting for some graph to populate now
[16-May-2008 15:28:17] <pat2man> anyone know the reason behind including mysql in the 2.2 packages instead of just depending on it?
[16-May-2008 15:29:12] <mib_jes4ca> is not in the defualt templates...it is buried somewhere else....any ideas?
[16-May-2008 15:36:03] <mib_jes4ca> nope, can't find it...hmmm..
[16-May-2008 15:36:19] <magnachef> npmccallum: I'm seeing disk information and all that good stuff under the OS tab, but nothing under perf...thoughts?
[16-May-2008 15:36:34] <npmccallum> magnachef: that is correct for now
[16-May-2008 15:36:37] <magnachef> I'm getting some events for warning threshold as well
[16-May-2008 15:36:49] <npmccallum> if you select a disk, you'll see trending dta
[16-May-2008 15:36:50] <magnachef> ok...cool, so that part still needs to be done
[16-May-2008 15:36:58] <magnachef> oh, ok
[16-May-2008 15:37:10] <npmccallum> I'm not doing performance yet, but I'm sure I'll do it at somepoint
[16-May-2008 15:37:47] <magnachef> nice...I'd be happy to help out with that too, as it's fairly high priority for me
[16-May-2008 15:39:51] <npmccallum> ok
[16-May-2008 15:40:00] <npmccallum> feel free to work on it, I'll take patches
[16-May-2008 15:42:52] <magnachef> yeah, I'm seeing some negative values as well...not sure why
[16-May-2008 15:46:42] <npmccallum> magnachef: I've noticed that
[16-May-2008 15:46:55] <npmccallum> I haven't researched it though
[16-May-2008 15:47:15] <npmccallum> again, feel free to work on it. I'll accept patches...
[16-May-2008 16:54:26] <pat2man> has anyone tried monitoring openvpn? zenoss doesnt seem to like the interface: inet addr:10.140.5.22 P-t-P:10.10.25.3 Mask:255.255.255.255
[16-May-2008 17:00:59] <bpage> i've read through the documentation and cannot seem to find the system requirements for zenoss. would someone be able to give me an idea of what these might be?
[16-May-2008 17:03:01] <bpage> particularly how much ram to allocate
[16-May-2008 17:03:21] <bpage> so that the plugins will not timeout
[16-May-2008 17:05:44] <wonderhamster> I've run into a problem with zencommand. It seems to be running properly in that "zencommand -d server -v10" returns "DEBUG:zen.zencommand:rrd save result: 42818364.0" however when I run "rrdtool info /path/to/DB.rrd" the value shows up as ds[ds0].last_ds and ds[ds0].value=NaN
[16-May-2008 17:06:11] <wonderhamster> what plugings are timing out bpage?
[16-May-2008 17:08:03] <bpage> wonderhamster - this is the error i'm getting 'CRITICAL - Plugin timed out while executing system call'. i specifically checkingmy dns
[16-May-2008 17:09:15] <wonderhamster> where are you getting this? during the zenmodeler or is this being returned as an error?
[16-May-2008 17:09:50] <bpage> its being returned as in error in the email notification
[16-May-2008 17:10:20] <wonderhamster> did you look at the event that was generated?
[16-May-2008 17:11:30] <bpage> i currently have zenoss installed on a centos 5 box with 512 mb ram and the zenoss process appears to be using 490 mb of ram itself. i though this was maybe an indicator that zenoss needed more ram.
[16-May-2008 17:11:43] <bpage> but could not find anything to verify this
[16-May-2008 17:12:12] <bpage> i did look at the event and everything seemed fine
[16-May-2008 17:13:47] <wonderhamster> I'm not sure what the minimum requirements are, but I do know that the more checks that you run, the more RAM will be required
[16-May-2008 17:14:07] <bpage> i'm thinking that possibly that the plugin is timing out waiting for the kernel to move info in and out of swap
[16-May-2008 17:14:20] <bpage> which would make sense
[16-May-2008 17:15:07] <bpage> i was just trying to get some real numbers as to how much ram is needed for "X" amount of checks
[16-May-2008 17:15:14] <wonderhamster> you could use vmstat to determine how much swap in/swap out activity is happening on the box
[16-May-2008 17:16:20] <bpage> ok. thx wonderhamster
[16-May-2008 17:21:55] <magnachef> npmccallum: it seems like I'm getting the negatives on my 2T mounts...could it be something with the 32 bit counter?
[16-May-2008 17:22:06] <npmccallum> magnachef: could be
[16-May-2008 18:16:20] <garnica> hi people! I've just installed Zenoss on Fedora Core 8, everything works fine, when I try the rpath: https://localhost:8003 login I have no connection... any idea ??
[16-May-2008 18:18:53] <MrTux> garnica: try without https port 8080
[16-May-2008 18:19:23] <MrTux> garnica: if you need https you need to built yourself a custom apache reverse proxy..
[16-May-2008 18:19:56] <garnica> http://localhost:8080 I have Zenoss login... works fine... but when I try the rpath administration tool ... I can not see it...
[16-May-2008 18:19:57] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[16-May-2008 18:20:19] <garnica> this rpath tool works fine when I use the VMWare Zenoss option
[16-May-2008 18:21:44] <Lego> Who authored the Quick Start Guide for Zenoss pdf? The font is terrible! It's not anti-aliased well at all
[16-May-2008 18:23:30] <garnica> I believe rpath tool is not available when you install Zenoss on any Linux distro...
[16-May-2008 18:23:54] <garnica> only available for the VMware Zenoss option for windows......
[16-May-2008 18:24:21] <garnica> anyway.... how can I set my Zenoss app... to listen to port 8081 instead of 8080 ??
[16-May-2008 18:24:44] <garnica> so it can be http://localhost:8081 ??
[16-May-2008 18:29:34] <mib_jes4ca> I am getting this Error: reading value for "unrouted VLAN 193" on some.router (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.296 is bad)
[16-May-2008 18:29:50] <mib_jes4ca> I know the value it needs
[16-May-2008 18:29:59] <mib_jes4ca> I just do not know where is stored
[16-May-2008 18:30:12] <mib_jes4ca> to change it, does anyone know
[16-May-2008 18:31:03] <MrTux> garnica: you should never ever change this port
[16-May-2008 18:31:16] <garnica> Mr Tux... why ?
[16-May-2008 18:31:47] <MrTux> garnica: ist is not only the webinterfaces, but also the communication path of all internal subsystems, you need to changeit everywhere through the source
[16-May-2008 18:33:02] <garnica> Mr Tux: ok... I belive you ! I'm getting aware of this...
[16-May-2008 18:48:30] <mib_jes4ca> can anyone help
[16-May-2008 18:58:25] <MrTux> mib_jes4ca: have a look into the device templates
[16-May-2008 19:04:13] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2331&highlight=propvirtual
[16-May-2008 19:04:21] <magnachef> mib_jes: this may help
[16-May-2008 19:04:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Threshold for VLANS (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-May-2008 19:20:45] <mib_jes4ca> thanks
[16-May-2008 19:21:43] <magnachef> np
[16-May-2008 20:45:34] <garnica> a
[16-May-2008 20:54:50] <Lego> a
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[16-May-2008 21:12:34] <magnachef> so is there any way to have the event list refresh by default?
[16-May-2008 21:49:14] <pat2man> so I am trying to get the asterisk mib loaded, I am currently getting this error: WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "Channels" on pbx01 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 is bad)
[16-May-2008 21:49:40] <pat2man> but this works fine: snmpwalk -c community -v 2c pbx01 .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0
[16-May-2008 21:50:22] <pat2man> mib shows up under mibs, shows: astNumChannels 1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1
[16-May-2008 21:50:22] <Lego> does it work also if you snmpget instead of snmpwalk?
[16-May-2008 21:51:11] <pat2man> snmpget -c community -v 2c pbx01 .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 works
[16-May-2008 21:51:38] <pat2man> although I did run: export MIBS=+ASTERISK-MIB
[16-May-2008 21:52:33] <pat2man> magnachef: you could probably dig through the html+javascript and add a refresh...
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[16-May-2008 23:12:01] <kso512> Hello everyone...!
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[17-May-2008 03:23:49] <mostym> hi all
[17-May-2008 03:24:38] <mostym> I have a question. if i have 5 servers behind a firewall, can I monitor these servers from another network?
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[17-May-2008 15:50:22] <mostym> is there a way to change the ip address from root?
[17-May-2008 16:29:44] <mostym> anyone here?
[17-May-2008 16:38:12] <mostym> very sad.. no help for me
[17-May-2008 16:47:30] <mostym> i changed the ifcfg-eth0 file to reflect the static IP address that I want to use...
[17-May-2008 16:47:45] <mostym> service network restart, however it is still not wokring....
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[18-May-2008 02:18:36] <troy42> narf
[18-May-2008 03:19:52] <mostym> does anyone know how to login to rAA ? I don't know what the credintials are..
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[18-May-2008 16:21:03] <troy> g'morning
[18-May-2008 18:22:47] <bubbasixpack> how stable is the head in svn? the gutsy install is failing on hardy
[18-May-2008 21:48:17] <anvo> hello
[18-May-2008 21:48:48] <anvo> is there an installation guide for zenoss under ubuntu hurdy heron?
[18-May-2008 21:49:10] <MrTux> anvo: not yet, but in my experience the older ones work as well
[18-May-2008 21:49:42] <anvo> Hmmmm
[18-May-2008 21:49:46] <anvo> Well...
[18-May-2008 21:50:20] <anvo> In fact I have it installed, already! But I don't know what username and password to type!!!
[18-May-2008 21:50:30] <MrTux> admin and zenoss
[18-May-2008 21:52:02] <anvo> Trying it...
[18-May-2008 21:53:15] <anvo> It seems it works...!
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[19-May-2008 12:43:59] <Blinny> My zensyslog.py is consistently using up 100% of the CPU - I've checked logs/zensyslog but it's not being streamed with data. Where can I look to find out more information about what it's doing?
[19-May-2008 12:53:55] <mib_jes4ca> I got the following message: oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0 is bad, this my default installation, mibs added....where do I go to change the OIDS values?
[19-May-2008 15:04:39] <mray> Hey _chris_, Zenoss 2.2 is out!
[19-May-2008 15:04:46] <_chris_>
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[19-May-2008 15:17:59] <kso512> yay - 2.2...!
[19-May-2008 15:18:17] * kso512 goes to try it out...
[19-May-2008 15:22:41] <magnachef> any big changes in 2.2?
[19-May-2008 15:23:07] * magnachef is too lazy/busy right now to check himself
[19-May-2008 15:25:22] <mib_jes4ca> mray: Could you help me aout...I posted the question to the forums and I can get an answer..
[19-May-2008 15:25:40] <mib_jes4ca> I also followed a posting and tha solution is not working..
[19-May-2008 15:26:11] <mib_jes4ca> It is about a Vlan intefaces on Cisco...
[19-May-2008 15:26:29] <magnachef> that forum link I sent didn't help?
[19-May-2008 15:26:40] <mib_jes4ca> The solution was to create a Blank template
[19-May-2008 15:26:52] <magnachef> yeah, for that type of interface
[19-May-2008 15:26:58] <mib_jes4ca> Yes, I follow that...but I am still getting the errors
[19-May-2008 15:27:06] <magnachef> did you restart Zenoss?
[19-May-2008 15:27:08] <mib_jes4ca> proVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:27:15] <magnachef> propVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:27:16] <mib_jes4ca> and it was totally balnk..
[19-May-2008 15:27:23] <mib_jes4ca> I also rebooted Zenoss
[19-May-2008 15:27:26] <mib_jes4ca> no luck
[19-May-2008 15:27:32] <magnachef> hmmm
[19-May-2008 15:27:35] <mib_jes4ca> rebooted Server, no luck
[19-May-2008 15:28:03] <mib_jes4ca> sometimes I get the blue warnings with bad oids, sometime i don't
[19-May-2008 15:28:21] <mib_jes4ca> yes propVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:29:04] <mib_jes4ca> when you created a propVirtual..did you delete the local ethernetcsmda
[19-May-2008 15:29:22] <magnachef> no
[19-May-2008 15:29:51] <magnachef> you need to keep that...in reality you should just create a copy of that under the /Devices/Network class
[19-May-2008 15:29:52] <mib_jes4ca> ok..
[19-May-2008 15:30:10] <magnachef> change the name, then remove the thresholds, etc
[19-May-2008 15:30:15] <mib_jes4ca> I also bound it..same results..
[19-May-2008 15:30:33] <mib_jes4ca> names of what..propVirtual?
[19-May-2008 15:30:51] <magnachef> I'm not sure what binding really does
[19-May-2008 15:31:10] <magnachef> yeah, from Copy of ethernetCsmace
[19-May-2008 15:31:17] <mib_jes4ca> I do not either..anyways..
[19-May-2008 15:31:57] <mib_jes4ca> that is what I did, I made a copy to that location, removed everything and then rename to propVirtual, saved it
[19-May-2008 15:32:09] <mib_jes4ca> restared zenoss....same errors
[19-May-2008 15:33:00] <mib_jes4ca> Zenoss is very frustrating unless you understand Pyhton..
[19-May-2008 15:33:19] <mib_jes4ca> The Forums and the IRC channels are kind of dead..
[19-May-2008 15:34:29] <magnachef> yeah, I've been working through it, but you do run into some roadblocks
[19-May-2008 15:34:57] <mib_jes4ca> these are my typical errors: unrouted VLAN 33 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 903.75
[19-May-2008 15:35:58] <mib_jes4ca> Error reading value for "unrouted VLAN 1005" on some.router.us (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14.256 is bad)
[19-May-2008 15:36:10] <magnachef> so do you have a VLAN group, similar to the propVirtual ones?
[19-May-2008 15:36:57] <mib_jes4ca> My bosses like the product alot but since it takes too long to fix an issue, they do not feel confident about it..
[19-May-2008 15:37:18] <mib_jes4ca> I am fighting to keep it here, but it is getting tougher
[19-May-2008 15:37:21] <magnachef> well...that's where you may want to look into the enterprise w/support
[19-May-2008 15:38:00] <magnachef> I'll say this though...any system you get will have a big learning curve and take time to work out the kinks with your environment
[19-May-2008 15:38:10] <mib_jes4ca> They are all for that...but they want a proof of concept first....they want the "core" system working first
[19-May-2008 15:38:59] <magnachef> you should talk to sales, as I recently did. They will do a proof of concept with the Enterprise edition, help you set it up, give support, etc so that you can see what that version can do for you
[19-May-2008 15:39:00] <mib_jes4ca> I do agree, their angle is, since it is GPL, we are subjected to someone elses timetable...
[19-May-2008 15:40:12] <magnachef> right...but if you do go with the enterprise edition, then you are a paying customer, which will give you faster (hopefully) turnaround on support
[19-May-2008 15:40:36] <mib_jes4ca> I got like 500 VLANS, but the interface TYPE = propVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:44:02] <magnachef> you should go through and make sure you setup everything up and spelled everything correctly, etc
[19-May-2008 15:44:52] <mib_jes4ca> I have instaaled Zenoss in all the different solution they have , all flavors of Linux, etc..
[19-May-2008 15:45:28] <mib_jes4ca> I finally settle in with VMWARE instaal, it is the less prone to errors right of the box..
[19-May-2008 15:45:58] <mib_jes4ca> I have gotten pretty good at installing Zenoss, but that is all
[19-May-2008 15:46:45] <mib_jes4ca> I think it is wonderful product...just tough to learn
[19-May-2008 15:47:46] <mib_jes4ca> like those bad OIDs messages...ok...where do I go and change the oids since I have not installed any mibs at all?
[19-May-2008 15:47:55] <mib_jes4ca> don't know where to go..
[19-May-2008 15:49:53] <magnachef> well, it's not that you need to change the OIDs, you just need to filter those out
[19-May-2008 15:50:34] <mib_jes4ca> Can you expand on that?
[19-May-2008 15:51:10] <jfchevrette> Hello everyone
[19-May-2008 15:51:17] <magnachef> well, by doing that propVirtual blank template, it will match those, but not do anything about them
[19-May-2008 15:51:22] <magnachef> essentially filtering them out
[19-May-2008 15:51:59] <jfchevrette> Does anybody know when the 2.2 install files will be up on sourceforge?
[19-May-2008 15:52:20] <magnachef> rumor has it that it was released today
[19-May-2008 15:53:10] <jfchevrette> Yes indeed
[19-May-2008 15:53:33] <mib_jes4ca> I am listening..
[19-May-2008 16:02:06] <jfchevrette> Well I'm new to zenoss and I can't even download it.... I understand the new version was released today but maybe the files should be made available before making the announcement ?
[19-May-2008 16:08:22] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/download/links?nt
[19-May-2008 16:08:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Download Links - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-May-2008 16:09:40] <jfchevrette> Maybe it's just me but this doesn't work: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-2.2.0-0-linux.bin
[19-May-2008 16:09:58] <jfchevrette> I get redirected a few times and it ends with "too many redirects" or 404
[19-May-2008 16:10:24] <magnachef> just download from the zenoss site
[19-May-2008 16:11:00] <magnachef> maybe it's something on the sourceforge end
[19-May-2008 16:11:49] <jfchevrette> I can't seem to find that file hosted on the zenoss website.... seems like all download links points to sourceforge
[19-May-2008 16:11:57] <jfchevrette> yeah maybe it's sourceforge
[19-May-2008 16:57:29] <kso512> Try a different mirror site.
[19-May-2008 17:01:17] <kso512> Hrmmm - other mirror sites doing the same thing... I was able to download the Ubuntu ".deb" file ok earlier - bizarre...!
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[19-May-2008 17:14:12] <Handyman> Can somebody help me figure out a way to disable monitoring Windows services on a per-server basis?
[19-May-2008 20:26:08] <shoyt> anyone here
[19-May-2008 20:26:25] <magnachef> perhaps
[19-May-2008 20:26:34] <mrayzenoss> yo
[19-May-2008 20:26:42] <shoyt> this is my first time on this channel
[19-May-2008 20:26:46] <magnachef> welcome
[19-May-2008 20:26:54] <shoyt> have a problem hoping someone can help
[19-May-2008 20:27:26] <shoyt> this has to do with zenjmx
[19-May-2008 20:27:38] * magnachef hides
[19-May-2008 20:29:39] <shoyt> anyone ever seen this error?:
[19-May-2008 20:29:46] <shoyt> [2008-05-19 13:10:44,332] [WARN ] [pool-2-thread-20] com.zenoss.zenpacks.zenjmx.Processor:104 - (-1720836092): timeout occurred during request
[19-May-2008 20:30:10] <shoyt> happens when I view any JMX graph
[19-May-2008 20:55:50] <kso512> I haven't toyed with that part yet - sorry...
[19-May-2008 21:05:21] <shoyt> no worries
[19-May-2008 21:05:25] <shoyt> anyone else?
[19-May-2008 21:25:11] <pat2man> does anyone know how to change the font size on graph reports?
[19-May-2008 21:27:29] <mrayzenoss> shoyt: Not sure what's causing that, there are several JMX tickets already opened, feel free to throw one on the pile. It's getting worked on right now.
[19-May-2008 21:30:58] <malbon> shoyt: tail your zenjmx.log to check you are getting decent values from your JMX interface
[19-May-2008 21:31:11] <malbon> shoyt: I haven't seen that error in my JMX testing.
[19-May-2008 21:35:57] <shoyt> I've done that and all I get are timeout errors
[19-May-2008 21:36:38] <shoyt> but zenjmx run DOES pull values but the graphs all still show nan
[19-May-2008 22:19:54] <malbon> hmm he went.
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[20-May-2008 13:28:34] <mib_jes4ca> in the installation of 2.2 release , is asking for MySql password, I thought the password was supposed to be blank?
[20-May-2008 13:36:13] <mrayzenoss> go ahead and put in a password, it'll use that when it creates the mysql instance
[20-May-2008 13:38:29] <mib_jes4ca> ok thanks
[20-May-2008 14:30:28] <zaf> anyone else having trouble downloading from sourceforge/
[20-May-2008 14:30:38] <magnachef> someone mentioned that yesterday
[20-May-2008 14:31:54] <zaf> ah yeah, i see tat now
[20-May-2008 14:32:16] <zaf> any other known mirrors?
[20-May-2008 14:35:41] <zaf> ah - http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss/2.2/
[20-May-2008 14:35:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads/zenoss/2.2 (at dev.zenoss.org)
[20-May-2008 14:45:14] <mib_jes4ca> Hey magnachef
[20-May-2008 14:45:49] <mib_jes4ca> So I finally got it to work, that propVlan issue.
[20-May-2008 15:02:25] <_0x44> I have a custom data collector plugin to map HPUX filesystems, because Zenoss cannot do so on its own. When I try to model the device, though, I get a WARNING: zen.ApplyDataMap attribute '' not found on object ''. What do I need to do to get the DataMap attributes applied?
[20-May-2008 15:12:53] <MrTux> _0x44: looks like an coding failure on your site, try adding debug output to your devicemap.py
[20-May-2008 18:59:07] <jk321> any ever have trouble runing the zenbackup on cron?
[20-May-2008 18:59:10] <jk321> gives me an error
[20-May-2008 18:59:15] <jk321> ectory
[20-May-2008 18:59:15] <jk321> ch file or directory
[20-May-2008 18:59:23] <jk321> ectory
[20-May-2008 18:59:40] <jk321> "/usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenbackup: line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or di"
[20-May-2008 19:00:01] <jk321> might be because of my profile variables
[20-May-2008 19:00:15] <jk321> i changed zenhome to the exact path in zenbackup
[20-May-2008 19:00:22] <jk321> but im not sure what $PYTHON relates to
[20-May-2008 19:13:16] <wonderhamster> I'm having a problem with zencommand timing out when collecting from more than a handful of remote ssh hosts. Has anyone had any experience with this issue?
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[20-May-2008 21:05:27] <kso512> ...lo all
[20-May-2008 21:11:59] <richard> does zenoss automatically compile the installed software list in the device tab for linux or do I need to do it by hand?
[20-May-2008 21:16:51] <kso512> I'm fairly new, but I haven't seen it fill out Linux software at all...
[20-May-2008 21:17:23] <kso512> I may well be missing something important though...
[20-May-2008 21:23:23] <richard> ahh, cheers. it does on windows?
[20-May-2008 21:49:51] <kso512> richard: if you get the SNMP Informant working right, yeah, it grabs lots of data.
[20-May-2008 21:51:04] <richard> kso512, cool. my snmp is rusty. time to read up i guess
[20-May-2008 22:02:25] * telexicon sighs
[20-May-2008 22:02:33] <telexicon> anybody had reliability issues with zenoss?
[20-May-2008 22:03:09] <richard> not yet
[20-May-2008 22:04:23] <kso512> telexicon: Nope - pretty stable for me.
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[21-May-2008 14:25:41] <twm1010> morning all
[21-May-2008 14:46:45] <mrayzenoss> morning twm1010, just sent you an email
[21-May-2008 14:49:58] <soloman> Hi. Where can I download ZenPacks.zenoss.LDAPMonitor? Can't find it anywhere in zenpack section
[21-May-2008 14:52:33] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20177#20177
[21-May-2008 14:52:53] <mrayzenoss> I'll be reposting that to the blog, but the individual link is here: http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual/
[21-May-2008 14:53:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual (at dev.zenoss.org)
[21-May-2008 14:54:07] <soloman> thanks
[21-May-2008 14:55:16] <soloman> Type: AttributeError
[21-May-2008 14:55:16] <soloman> Value: getBrokenPackName
[21-May-2008 14:55:24] <soloman> ok I installed but when I try to bind LDAP template I got this error
[21-May-2008 14:56:32] <soloman> it installed and binded ok but this error occures when I click on LDAPServer in Templates of my device
[21-May-2008 14:56:36] <soloman> the same thing with ApacheMonitor zenpack
[21-May-2008 14:57:06] <mrayzenoss> you might want to go to the forums with that, development is watching for 2.2 upgrade issues
[21-May-2008 14:58:57] <soloman> I just installed on a new system and added these 2 zenpacks. Seems like it was not tested at all by zenoss team.
[21-May-2008 14:59:22] <mrayzenoss> I'm pretty sure we're running LDAP and ApacheMonitor internally
[21-May-2008 15:00:09] <mrayzenoss> but there's always a possibility we missed something
[21-May-2008 15:01:29] <mrayzenoss> we test on 15 platforms with source, rpms, debs, bin and a variety of tests with less than 10 developers. We're hiring a release engineer to make things go smoother.
[21-May-2008 15:01:39] <soloman> also after I binded these zenpacks I can't see OS tab in device section. Got this error Type: AttributeError Value: datapoints
[21-May-2008 15:02:06] <soloman> maybe the problem is I'm running on Gentoo
[21-May-2008 15:02:16] <mrayzenoss> that's not one of the 15 platforms
[21-May-2008 15:02:34] <mrayzenoss> source install?
[21-May-2008 15:02:54] <soloman> I was pretty sure Gentoo is one of 15 popular platforms worldwide
[21-May-2008 15:02:55] <soloman> yes
[21-May-2008 15:03:00] <soloman> source install
[21-May-2008 15:05:20] <soloman> can't see OS if either LDAP or ApacheMonitor binded or both of them.
[21-May-2008 15:05:47] <mrayzenoss> soloman: I'm sure Gentoo is top-15, I used to run it myself. When I say 15 platforms it's 4 Red Hats/CentOS, 6 Fedoras, 6 Suses, 4 Ubuntus, 2 Debians, 2 VMWares,
[21-May-2008 15:06:01] <mrayzenoss> plus OSX
[21-May-2008 15:06:09] <soloman> yeah I know that
[21-May-2008 15:06:29] <soloman> I use Gentoo only as my desktop not on production servers
[21-May-2008 15:07:03] <soloman> but have plans to use on production in the future
[21-May-2008 15:07:17] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I ran it for 3 years on the desktop and eventually it fell over under it's own weight of cruft. Of course, I was a bleeding-edge kinda guy who broke my own box frequently
[21-May-2008 15:08:01] <mrayzenoss> but as for your problem, I don't know the answer myself, but I know development is watching the forums and you should get a good response there. If you post, I'll keep an eye out for it.
[21-May-2008 15:08:23] <mib_zbchaq> what is a Zenpack with an .egg extension
[21-May-2008 15:09:17] <soloman> mrayzenoss: ok, thank you.
[21-May-2008 15:09:25] <mrayzenoss> mib_zbchaq: for 2.2, the ZenPack structure was rewritten to be more standard
[21-May-2008 15:09:34] <mrayzenoss> Python "egg" format for packaging, which provides dependency management
[21-May-2008 15:09:43] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/code/zenoss-2.2/zenoss-core-2.2
[21-May-2008 15:09:48] <mib_zbchaq> how do I use this file?
[21-May-2008 15:09:52] <mib_zbchaq> instal it?
[21-May-2008 15:10:00] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6012
[21-May-2008 15:10:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.2 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-May-2008 15:10:20] <mrayzenoss> apparently I need to blog post out faster
[21-May-2008 15:11:57] <mib_zbchaq> you guys did a great job on the installer
[21-May-2008 15:12:05] <mrayzenoss> thanks!
[21-May-2008 15:12:29] <mrayzenoss> BitRock is a pretty good company to work with, they do a lot of Open Source installers
[21-May-2008 15:13:52] <mib_zbchaq> I have a propVirtual interface template created it, it is blank to avoid the Exceeded errors..
[21-May-2008 15:14:38] <mib_zbchaq> What do I have to do collect perfromance or thresholds
[21-May-2008 15:14:57] <mib_zbchaq> I just don't want to populate it and then have the same errors again..
[21-May-2008 15:15:57] <mib_zbchaq> Basically, how do I monitor Vlan traffic with the propVirtula interface
[21-May-2008 15:21:33] <twm1010> hey matt... checkin your email now
[21-May-2008 15:27:53] <twm1010> mrayzenoss : so the conary command I used on the appliance didn't upgrade the Zenpacks?
[21-May-2008 15:30:06] <mrayzenoss> are you asking me or telling me? I don't know myself, but I'd like to know the answer. I know dev is watching the forums so post there if you've got a problem.
[21-May-2008 15:30:30] <mrayzenoss> they're specifically looking for upgrade problems right now
[21-May-2008 15:30:32] <twm1010> No, it did not actually
[21-May-2008 15:30:33] <mrayzenoss> yay
[21-May-2008 15:30:37] * mrayzenoss is kinda punchy
[21-May-2008 15:30:41] <twm1010> running the command you posted right now
[21-May-2008 15:31:01] <twm1010> i've been waiting on the 2.2 release/docs to learn zenpacks
[21-May-2008 15:31:01] <mrayzenoss> well, it wasn't my work, it was Jason's
[21-May-2008 15:31:16] <twm1010> i didn't want to put together anything if the architecture was changing
[21-May-2008 15:31:17] <soloman> mrayzenoss: I just installed zenoss 2.2 on Fedora 6 32bit from Stack installer then added localhost as device and installed ApacheMonitor 2.2 (egg). Got the same Zenoss error - Value: getBrokenPackName
[21-May-2008 15:31:27] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I'll appreciate feedback on the documentation
[21-May-2008 15:31:38] <soloman> Fedora is in supported platforms as I know
[21-May-2008 15:31:43] <mrayzenoss> soloman: sounds like something we should be able to recreate it then
[21-May-2008 15:31:57] <twm1010> ok, i'll read up then, because I haven't TOUCHED zenpacks until this. i want to author netware, groupwise, and e-directory zenpacks
[21-May-2008 15:32:12] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I think there's a Netware one of some sort
[21-May-2008 15:32:22] <mrayzenoss> and 2.1.3 ZenPacks will work with 2.2
[21-May-2008 15:32:22] <twm1010> ah... there is a check_nlm one
[21-May-2008 15:32:32] <mrayzenoss> they might not work with 2.3, but that's a ways off
[21-May-2008 15:32:46] <twm1010> which does okay, but its so much easier to have everything together, the performance template, the commands and scripts
[21-May-2008 15:32:56] <mrayzenoss> we don't have any Netware in-house, so that's all community-driven
[21-May-2008 15:33:12] <mrayzenoss> always happy to have more community ZenPacks
[21-May-2008 15:33:16] <twm1010> i found a post today from a year ago where someone was modifying collects to find netware filesystems, but nothing ever came of it
[21-May-2008 15:33:39] <twm1010> it can't be too difficult, the demo version of solarwinds does it, so obviously the information is already there
[21-May-2008 15:33:47] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I try to encourage people whenever I see them talking about writing them, but I've only been here since April 1.
[21-May-2008 15:34:36] <twm1010> unfortunately it looks like the company wants to use a commercial product, and doesn't want to spend for Zenoss Ent. so any further development is on my own time going forward
[21-May-2008 15:36:06] <twm1010> Device/Network dependencies is my largest issue, and that got moved to Zenoss 3.0 timeline, so i really can't wait for it
[21-May-2008 15:36:08] <mrayzenoss> well, keep fighting the good fight. Hopefully you can show them that Zenoss is better than the commercial product and eventually displace it
[21-May-2008 15:36:20] <twm1010> Could be, solarwinds costs as much as Zenoss Enterprise
[21-May-2008 15:36:35] <twm1010> but, some of the smaller products meet 99% of our needs for only 3-4k
[21-May-2008 15:37:34] <mrayzenoss> I believe we're going to be changing our pricing soon, but I don't have any numbers for you.
[21-May-2008 15:37:58] <twm1010> Sure... well we got some time yet, and I'm certainly not turning my Zenoss box off, its got 10 months of good data on it
[21-May-2008 15:37:59] <mrayzenoss> we do offer an Enterprise trial with support if that helps
[21-May-2008 15:39:20] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I'm still not seeing your email
[21-May-2008 15:39:21] <twm1010> I didn't send one
[21-May-2008 15:39:22] <twm1010> I got yours, was what I was saying.
[21-May-2008 15:39:24] <mrayzenoss> ahh
[21-May-2008 15:39:26] <twm1010> Good explanation... its a lot of work/time
[21-May-2008 15:39:28] <mrayzenoss> well, we're growing fast
[21-May-2008 15:39:41] <soloman> mrayzenoss: I think it would be easy to reproduce - just install on any zenoss 2.2
[21-May-2008 15:39:45] <mrayzenoss> I was employee #28, and we hit 38 today
[21-May-2008 15:40:03] <twm1010> If I wasn't comfortable where I am, I'd be sending a resume, it interests me greatly
[21-May-2008 15:40:28] <mrayzenoss> we always need great people in Austin and Annapolis
[21-May-2008 15:41:09] <twm1010> Yep, its in the back of my mind, I have a BS to finish first, 1 year to go, then I re-weigh options
[21-May-2008 15:42:13] <twm1010> So far 2.2 has fixed all my VM performance issues, before my box was churning 75-100% cpu all the time, now its back to what it was when I started with 2.1
[21-May-2008 15:42:54] <locohost> anyway to make critical alerts fire off a audio file of some type?
[21-May-2008 15:42:57] <mrayzenoss> soloman: I've mentioned it to development, post it on zenoss-users and someone will recreate it
[21-May-2008 15:43:10] <mrayzenoss> locohost: Event commands could do that
[21-May-2008 15:43:11] <twm1010> loco: event command
[21-May-2008 15:43:31] <locohost> ty, ill look into that
[21-May-2008 15:43:31] <mrayzenoss> locohost: that could get crazy, but I like it
[21-May-2008 15:43:56] <locohost> I dont need to get crazy, i just want critical alerts to wake up sleeping noc operators
[21-May-2008 15:43:56] <locohost>
[21-May-2008 15:44:03] <twm1010> hehe, kind of like how I have look @ lan play the "red alert" sound from star trek anytime a node on a range of IP addresses goes down
[21-May-2008 15:44:31] <locohost> my old nms that im about to decomission (castle rock) playes the death march
[21-May-2008 15:45:10] <soloman> btw how to create an alert if I didn't receive some snmp data too long?
[21-May-2008 15:45:24] <twm1010> whats funny is when i turn my volume up to listen to music, then the music stops and some jackass reboots a router
[21-May-2008 15:45:33] <locohost> i was thinking something along the lines of "Ive had it with these mofo snakes on my mofo plane!"
[21-May-2008 15:45:33] <twm1010> then i get this ear-piercing loud red alert sound.
[21-May-2008 15:45:39] <twm1010> i've fell out of my chair more than once
[21-May-2008 15:45:57] <mrayzenoss> this is my sound: http://loc.homelinux.org/data/fixit.mp3
[21-May-2008 15:46:24] <locohost> or just nick burns saying "Ekkk, moooove!"
[21-May-2008 15:46:56] <twm1010> i had an mp3 of homer simpson saying "doh!" like 100+ times...
[21-May-2008 15:47:31] <locohost> yeah, yeah i heard that one
[21-May-2008 15:47:48] <locohost> heh, mray, is that phillip j fry?
[21-May-2008 15:48:30] <mrayzenoss> yup
[21-May-2008 15:48:52] <twm1010> holy crap, 2.2 fixed the server time issue... its about damn time, literally
[21-May-2008 15:49:14] <mib_zbchaq> Do I install this file type ".egg", Via Zenpack Gui?....How do I save it to the local drive...?
[21-May-2008 15:49:14] <mrayzenoss> 750+ tickets closed
[21-May-2008 15:52:54] <mib_zbchaq> The new installer fix a lot problems for me..I had this problems for 6 weeks and I was ready to walk away..
[21-May-2008 15:53:17] <mrayzenoss> yeah, the installer was killing us
[21-May-2008 15:53:18] <mrayzenoss> when I interview I bitched about the install, documentation and the crazy UI
[21-May-2008 15:53:20] <mib_zbchaq> it is awesome !!
[21-May-2008 15:53:20] <mrayzenoss> working on documentation now
[21-May-2008 15:53:24] <twm1010> im downloading the documentation, sourceforge only running at 7KB/sec :|
[21-May-2008 15:53:27] <mrayzenoss> speaking of working, I'm gonna duck out and go do some
[21-May-2008 15:53:27] <mib_zbchaq> Do I install this file type ".egg", Via Zenpack Gui?....How do I save it to the local drive...?
[21-May-2008 15:53:34] <mrayzenoss> mib_zbchaq: just a sec
[21-May-2008 15:53:37] <mib_zbchaq> sure
[21-May-2008 15:54:47] <mrayzenoss> Settings->ZenPack
[21-May-2008 15:55:13] <mrayzenoss> the tab-menu to the left of "Loaded Zen Packs"
[21-May-2008 15:55:23] <mrayzenoss> "Install a ZenPack"
[21-May-2008 15:55:35] <mrayzenoss> browse to your downloaded .egg file
[21-May-2008 15:55:35] <mib_zbchaq> I've done that..
[21-May-2008 15:55:58] <mib_zbchaq> When I try to download the egg, instaed opens up as a text file
[21-May-2008 15:56:15] <mrayzenoss> oh, your browser doesn't know what it is
[21-May-2008 15:56:31] <mrayzenoss> just right-click and say "save link as"
[21-May-2008 15:56:40] <mib_zbchaq> I guess
[21-May-2008 15:58:01] <mib_zbchaq> So Mray: how do I monitor Vlan traffic...I already created and propVirtual interfece
[21-May-2008 15:58:06] <mib_zbchaq> that is empty
[21-May-2008 15:58:30] <mrayzenoss> I'm sorry I don't know.
[21-May-2008 15:58:32] <mib_zbchaq> Thanks I got it ot install
[21-May-2008 15:58:41] <mib_zbchaq> the EGG file
[21-May-2008 15:59:00] <mib_zbchaq> ok thanks
[21-May-2008 15:59:15] <twm1010> doh! zenpack upgrade broke my zenpacks tab in the UI
[21-May-2008 15:59:41] <mib_zbchaq> So only Zenpacks with the .egg extension will work with 2.2?
[21-May-2008 16:00:02] <twm1010> i think 2.2 will support old zenpacks, but going forward zenpacks will only be developed with the .egg
[21-May-2008 16:00:18] <mib_zbchaq> I see...
[21-May-2008 16:00:21] <mrayzenoss> mib_zbchaq: that's cool. As far as the Vlan traffic, I'd post to zenoss-users. Hopefully someone can help you
[21-May-2008 16:00:54] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: how did it break?
[21-May-2008 16:01:11] <mib_zbchaq> I wish the forums were more active...lots of questions, not a lot of answers..
[21-May-2008 16:01:56] <mib_zbchaq> I think I got respones on 1 out 5 posts
[21-May-2008 16:02:14] <mrayzenoss> yeah, twm1010 was just telling me how hard it is to get stuff out of there
[21-May-2008 16:03:07] <mrayzenoss> we hired a new web guy today, I'm gonna work on him to come up with something better for search
[21-May-2008 16:03:08] <mrayzenoss> but now I need to go
[21-May-2008 16:04:00] <mrayzenoss> but right now we have multiple developers watching the forums for 2.2 issues, so the forums should be somewhat more responsive on upgrades and installations
[21-May-2008 16:06:06] <mib_zbchaq> thanks
[21-May-2008 16:30:24] <soloman> hmm
[21-May-2008 16:30:46] <soloman> after I binded standart template ethernetCsmacd my device Perf tab refused to work
[21-May-2008 16:30:55] <soloman> I get error Value: speed
[21-May-2008 16:31:10] <locohost> hmm, bind it to an interface, not a device
[21-May-2008 16:31:19] <locohost> i had that problem, if i remember correctly
[21-May-2008 16:31:49] <locohost> the ethernetCsmacd is graphed on the software tab, when you click on that if.
[21-May-2008 16:31:53] <soloman> locohost: where in UI I can bind it to interface?
[21-May-2008 16:32:07] <soloman> i see only how to bind to device
[21-May-2008 16:33:33] <locohost> on the OS tab, click on eth0, or bond0, or whatever your if is called
[21-May-2008 16:33:43] <soloman> zenoss 2.2 seems very unstable.
[21-May-2008 16:34:08] <locohost> thats where the ethernetCsmacd graphs go, you cant apply that template to a host, you apply it to interfaces
[21-May-2008 16:34:27] <soloman> i constantly get lots of errors on a fresh install with only 1 device
[21-May-2008 16:37:12] <locohost> what errors?
[21-May-2008 16:37:33] <locohost> hmm, anyone know how to reset the admin password to zenoss? if you dont know it?
[21-May-2008 16:39:28] <mib_zbchaq> Why do I get on Hardware/CPU is blank..I get 2 instances for 2 cpu's but all fields are Zero and Manufacturer=unknown
[21-May-2008 16:39:49] <soloman> locohost: when I try to install and bind ApacheMonitor - I get an error
[21-May-2008 16:40:02] <soloman> when o click on Apache after binding
[21-May-2008 16:40:11] <soloman> the same thing with LDAP monitor
[21-May-2008 16:44:22] <locohost> what is the error
[21-May-2008 16:46:16] <locohost> mib, i think thats what snmp is returning for the cpu type, isnt that in hostresources or something? i could be wrong
[21-May-2008 16:53:11] <locohost> sudo su - zenoss -c "zpasswd.py -u admin -p zenoss -e CRYPT /opt/zenoss/inituser" ftw
[21-May-2008 16:55:45] <twm1010> mib: i think that depends on the O/S's SNMP support for scanning the hardware
[21-May-2008 16:56:13] <locohost> i actually ditched their entire hw tab, and made my own that pulls off of a sql cmdb
[21-May-2008 16:56:22] <twm1010> i would think the hp and dell zenpacks are meant to talk to the OID's provided by software like insight manager and openmanage to get specific info from the HW
[21-May-2008 16:56:33] <locohost> then i run a client side script to populate the db for that host
[21-May-2008 16:56:47] <twm1010> loco: interesting...
[21-May-2008 16:56:51] <soloman> i receive zenoss error when i click on Apache or LDAP in device templates
[21-May-2008 16:57:28] <twm1010> solo, open the details, and create a post on the forum for it
[21-May-2008 16:57:36] <twm1010> with the trace
[21-May-2008 16:57:54] <soloman> ok
[21-May-2008 16:58:04] <soloman> btw how to create an event if I didn't receive some snmp data too long?
[21-May-2008 16:59:07] <twm1010> solo: clarify that question, i don't understand
[21-May-2008 17:02:45] <soloman> f.e. i check free disk space every 1 minute. but if i kill snmpd on a device i see no events even after 1 hour. But i want to get an alert when info about free disk space wasn't updated for 30 minutes and more
[21-May-2008 17:04:11] <soloman> f.e. in zabbix i could create threshold like free_disk_space.nodata(600) - it generates an alert if zabbix didn't receive any data on free disk space for 600 seconds
[21-May-2008 17:17:53] <mib_zbchaq> Theses are all HP servers and I have HPMonitor Zenpack installed
[21-May-2008 17:19:36] <mib_zbchaq> What is this: sudo su - zenoss -c "zpasswd.py -u admin -p zenoss -e CRYPT /opt/zenoss/inituser" ftw
[21-May-2008 17:24:14] <locohost> i forgot a password, and used that to reset it
[21-May-2008 17:24:31] <twm1010> if you kill SNMP, you should get an event that SNMP is not responding
[21-May-2008 17:30:19] <soloman> twm1010: but I don't. Maybe i need to create this event?
[21-May-2008 17:37:10] <locohost> so, i fi want to add audio alerts, i go to zenevenManager, and create a filter, like : (summary like '%Process not running%' or summary like '%down%')
[21-May-2008 17:37:58] <locohost> but, what runs that will play the sound, have it load a url on the client machine or something?
[21-May-2008 18:16:47] <locohost> can i load a url in a new window it hte zenevent commands?
[21-May-2008 18:31:18] <twm1010> anyone good with regular expressions? I got a newbie question
[21-May-2008 18:36:53] <twm1010> anyone?
[21-May-2008 18:40:00] <npmccallum> twm1010: shoot
[21-May-2008 18:40:23] <twm1010> at someone else's suggestion, I used this in my zInterfacemapignorenames
[21-May-2008 18:40:25] <twm1010> ^(unrouted|rif0|lo|VLAN-|sit|BRI|EFXS|Voice|Bearer)
[21-May-2008 18:40:37] <npmccallum> ok
[21-May-2008 18:40:46] <twm1010> Doesn't really seem to work like it should
[21-May-2008 18:40:59] <twm1010> Basically I want it to ignore any interface it finds, with any of those words in the string
[21-May-2008 18:41:15] <npmccallum> well, you are close
[21-May-2008 18:41:26] <twm1010> right now im thinking the brackets and the ^ need to go
[21-May-2008 18:41:37] <npmccallum> that regex will ignore any interface it finds that STARTS WITH any of the items
[21-May-2008 18:41:59] <twm1010> ok
[21-May-2008 18:42:05] <npmccallum> taking out the ^ will make it purely a substring match
[21-May-2008 18:42:05] <npmccallum> but you should probably keep the ^
[21-May-2008 18:42:14] <twm1010> i see... so i need an operator that means "contains" ?
[21-May-2008 18:43:27] <npmccallum> twm1010: lack of an operator indicates "contains"
[21-May-2008 18:43:35] <npmccallum> (at least in this pattern)
[21-May-2008 18:43:56] <twm1010> let me give it a try
[21-May-2008 18:44:23] <npmccallum> I should mention that the more specific pattern (ie. starts with) is preferred
[21-May-2008 18:44:54] <twm1010> Sure, but that would force me to get too specific
[21-May-2008 18:45:20] <twm1010> for instance right now, its identifying Serial0/0/0:11-Bearer Channel as an interface
[21-May-2008 18:45:53] <twm1010> because of course, it is one... but I'd have to define all the way up to Bearer so it doesn't drop the ones I do want
[21-May-2008 18:49:31] <twm1010> ok, here we go
[21-May-2008 18:49:33] <twm1010> if i did that right, i should go from 200 interfaces to like 15
[21-May-2008 18:49:33] <twm1010>
[21-May-2008 18:52:19] <twm1010> npmccallum: thanks, looks like you got me in the right direction now.
[21-May-2008 18:55:10] <npmccallum> twm1010: "Serial[0-9/:]*-Bearer Channel"
[21-May-2008 18:56:58] <twm1010> Why match the beginning of a string, as opposed to just something containing it?
[21-May-2008 18:59:25] <npmccallum> because you might have a false positive
[21-May-2008 18:59:50] <npmccallum> your match should be as stringent as possible and still catch everything
[21-May-2008 19:00:36] <npmccallum> also, wouldn't you probably want to have different zInterfacemapignorenames for different device types?
[21-May-2008 19:00:45] <twm1010> well yeah, im setting this particular one at /Network/Routers
[21-May-2008 19:00:51] <npmccallum> k
[21-May-2008 19:01:06] <twm1010> probably do it different for switches, and not at all for servers
[21-May-2008 19:01:07] <npmccallum> because ^lo doesn't really make much sense on Cisco devices
[21-May-2008 19:01:58] <twm1010> yeah, i think i put that in there for a linux box? maybe
[21-May-2008 19:02:01] <twm1010> However, i think that is catching "loopback"
[21-May-2008 19:02:46] <locohost> anyone have any good advice on creating audio alerts, im trying to write something on my own that pulls data out of the events table..would be nice if there was an easier, cleaner way to do it
[21-May-2008 19:06:41] <twm1010> im finding this to be very handy http://gskinner.com/RegExr/
[21-May-2008 19:06:55] <adytum-bot> Title: RegExr: Online Regular Expression Testing Tool (at gskinner.com)
[21-May-2008 19:44:35] <locohost> cool, put a link for what i call "alertbot4000" on the alerts tab, you click it and it opens in a new fox fire tab, and plays an audio alert every time you get a device down message
[21-May-2008 19:47:18] <locohost> it uses a zmysql method, to get the data right from the the events table
[21-May-2008 20:04:21] <locohost> anyone know where in the status table of hte events db it says if a an alert has been acked?
[21-May-2008 20:04:26] <locohost> im assuming its in there somewhere
[21-May-2008 23:15:53] <pat2man> anyone using the new deb package?
[21-May-2008 23:34:14] <rythmm> Hey guys I have just done a default install of zenoss on ubuntu, apt-get install zenoss-server. I navigate to http://localhost:8080/ - presents me with a login, how do i check the username/pass ?
[21-May-2008 23:34:15] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[21-May-2008 23:35:17] <pat2man> should be admin zenoss
[21-May-2008 23:36:26] <pat2man> I am getting this in my zeo.log: 2008-05-21T16:41:26 CRITICAL root restarting too frequently; quit
[21-May-2008 23:36:30] <pat2man> anyone have any ideas?
[21-May-2008 23:38:21] <rythmm> nice thanks
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[22-May-2008 06:42:39] <jaunty> Is someone able to help me out with a RPC_S_CALL_FAILED issue?
[22-May-2008 06:48:18] <jaunty> is the post on the forums saying that the failed RPC call error will always happen to windows machines on a subnet which is different from the Zenoss machine's subnet?
[22-May-2008 06:48:25] <jaunty> is that accurate?
[22-May-2008 08:34:49] <Gamekiller> ok i finanly getting all my zenoss setting in place
[22-May-2008 08:35:13] <Gamekiller> i was reading over the doc for 2.2 and i was trying to copy some stuff form CMD device list
[22-May-2008 08:35:46] <Gamekiller> and when trying to monitor linux via ssh i get error can not find zenplugin.py
[22-May-2008 08:36:14] <Gamekiller> or do i need to have the plug in name in place of that
[22-May-2008 08:38:04] <Gamekiller> any in put on this would be great
[22-May-2008 12:45:34] <mf2hd> hnngh
[22-May-2008 12:46:01] <mf2hd> migration to 2.2.0 was somewhat a pain in the ass but noq it's done
[22-May-2008 12:50:00] <monrad> i am wating a week before upgrading
[22-May-2008 12:50:06] <monrad> waiting
[22-May-2008 12:52:57] <mf2hd> wise decission
[22-May-2008 12:53:00] <mf2hd> was going to too
[22-May-2008 12:53:30] <mf2hd> but when i noticed that load of new core zenpacks i just had to upgrade
[22-May-2008 13:50:10] <jb> anyone here upgraded a 2.1 RPM install to a 2.2 native RPM?
[22-May-2008 13:50:18] <jb> (not the stack installer, just the RPM)
[22-May-2008 14:13:07] <jb> sweet. completely messed up everything.
[22-May-2008 14:43:30] <shoyt> good day everyone
[22-May-2008 14:43:50] <shoyt> does anyone know how to change the default timeout for WMI?
[22-May-2008 15:15:18] <soloman> hi
[22-May-2008 15:15:46] <soloman> new core ZenPacks doesn't install correctly.
[22-May-2008 15:16:02] <soloman> head: cannot open `/opt/zenoss/.manifest' for reading: No such file or directory
[22-May-2008 15:16:02] <soloman> Installing /opt/zenoss/packs/ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg...
[22-May-2008 15:16:02] <soloman> -bash: /opt/zenoss/bin/zenpack: No such file or directory
[22-May-2008 15:17:08] <soloman> I wonder why it tries to install to /opt/zenoss while 2.2 rpm install itself to /usr/local/zenoss
[22-May-2008 15:46:27] <richard> I installed the mysql core zenpack v2.2 via the web interface and its telling me "This pack is missing or broken. You may need to restart Zope." unfortunately restarting doesnt fix anything and I cant remove the pack from the ui as there is no checkbox noext to it. any ideas?
[22-May-2008 15:56:32] <richard> now LDAP is screwed in the same way. how do I manually delete them off the filesystem? cli and ui fail to remove them
[22-May-2008 16:05:23] <pat2man> is anyone else having issues with 2.2 when adding a new data source? it just gets stuck at loading....
[22-May-2008 16:09:25] <soloman> richard, this core pack tries to install itself to /opt/zenoss and if your installation is in /usr/local/zenoss it might cause error about broken package
[22-May-2008 16:14:12] <ghettodev> soloman: interesting. is there a parm I can pass to the installer to remove and reinstall to the my usr/local?
[22-May-2008 16:32:30] <soloman> ghettodev: I uninstalled it by simply removing /usr/local/zenoss and all zenoss start scripts in /etc/init.d /etc/rc.*
[22-May-2008 16:34:32] <ghettodev> i need to wipe out my zenoss install to get rid of the faulty zen pack?
[22-May-2008 16:36:57] <soloman> try zenpack --list
[22-May-2008 16:37:03] <soloman> and zenpack --remove
[22-May-2008 16:37:17] <soloman> to uninstall a zenpack
[22-May-2008 16:43:05] <mf2hd> 19:05 < pat2man> is anyone else having issues with 2.2 when adding a new data source? it just gets stuck at loading....
[22-May-2008 16:43:20] <mf2hd> yup, had that once. restarinz zenoss helped
[22-May-2008 16:43:34] <pat2man> mf2hd: yeah, just did that and it fixed it
[22-May-2008 16:43:35] <pat2man> thanks
[22-May-2008 16:43:52] <mf2hd> it logged something that wen't wrong though
[22-May-2008 16:44:10] <pat2man> now I just need to fix this issue: No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
[22-May-2008 16:44:27] <mf2hd> after that i had to restore and remigrate for another reason, so i don't really know that were there some prob in the first migration
[22-May-2008 16:45:40] <plaughlin> Anyone know if there's a way to alert if zenoss does NOT receive a passive event? ie syslog, snmp trap, xml-rpc..
[22-May-2008 16:46:32] <mf2hd> graph the events
[22-May-2008 16:46:37] <mf2hd> and make an threshold
[22-May-2008 16:46:46] <ghettodev> zenpack list shows three packs installed, when i try to remove the http and ldap I get python errors, when i try to trmove the mysql one it tells me it isnt installed. is there a way I can manually remove the packs from the filesystem?
[22-May-2008 16:47:24] <mf2hd> or just make zencommand that compares last syslog event and time
[22-May-2008 16:47:41] <plaughlin> mf2hd - i'll give that a shot. We currently have about 1200 of that type of passive check in nagios. Jobs report success. Anyone else?
[22-May-2008 16:51:04] <mf2hd> plaughlin: it seems that you are long term nagios user, so have you any experience with check_iseries?
[22-May-2008 16:51:26] <plaughlin> none -- we're not an IBM shop
[22-May-2008 16:51:34] <mf2hd> i gave it a shot yesterday and seems that it's not getting along with php5 very well
[22-May-2008 16:51:48] <mf2hd> well, we have several midranges
[22-May-2008 16:51:58] <plaughlin> what error are you seeing?
[22-May-2008 16:52:21] <mf2hd> allmost nothing, as/400 is so old that it does not support very well snmp
[22-May-2008 16:52:30] <plaughlin> ah
[22-May-2008 16:52:32] <plaughlin> gotta love that
[22-May-2008 16:52:34] <mf2hd> and that php script
[22-May-2008 16:52:48] <mf2hd> well, it seems that it does not work with the php5
[22-May-2008 16:52:58] <mf2hd> some undefined symbol err's and so on...
[22-May-2008 16:53:13] <mf2hd> ...while all the libs and stuff should be in it's place
[22-May-2008 16:53:36] <mf2hd> not at the work atm so can't paste
[22-May-2008 16:54:02] <plaughlin> problem is they changed the language syntax slightly between 4 and 5
[22-May-2008 16:54:52] <plaughlin> if you're failiar with php it should be trivial to fix
[22-May-2008 16:54:52] <plaughlin> familiar
[22-May-2008 16:55:13] <plaughlin> we've been interested in Zenoss for a couple years -- revisit the idea occasionally and seem to strike out every time with our passives
[22-May-2008 16:56:02] <mf2hd> oh
[22-May-2008 16:56:13] <mf2hd> i presumed that u had an active installation
[22-May-2008 16:56:16] <mf2hd> but anyway
[22-May-2008 16:56:21] <plaughlin> we do
[22-May-2008 16:56:49] <mf2hd> that prob of yours is maybe not solved out-of-the-box, but there's definetly more than one way to solve that
[22-May-2008 16:56:53] <plaughlin> but we have a lot of automated jobs that report in success -- nagios pages if a window is exceeded w/o a success
[22-May-2008 16:57:23] <mf2hd> well
[22-May-2008 16:57:58] <mf2hd> it's quite trivial to make an zencommand script for example that returns 0 or 1 within the results of the time window
[22-May-2008 16:58:57] <plaughlin> that doesn't seem like it would protect us if the process didn't report in for some reason
[22-May-2008 16:59:14] <mf2hd> umm...
[22-May-2008 17:00:04] <plaughlin> hey - i've not used zenoss much, in process installing it right now
[22-May-2008 17:00:11] <plaughlin> if i'm wrong I would happily admit it
[22-May-2008 17:00:19] <mf2hd> if command returns 1 everything is ok, if it returns 0 everything is not ok
[22-May-2008 17:00:21] <plaughlin> last install was ~6 mo. ago
[22-May-2008 17:00:33] <mf2hd> so, when u graph those 1 and 0's
[22-May-2008 17:00:57] <mf2hd> and make an threshold that gives alert when 0 is returned
[22-May-2008 17:01:09] <mf2hd> got it?
[22-May-2008 17:01:54] <mf2hd> can't give proper example from home, sorry
[22-May-2008 17:05:10] <pat2man> is this still the case? "MIBs are used in Zenoss for SNMP Trap parsing. They are not used when setting up the poller. This is something we will do in the future though."
[22-May-2008 17:06:08] <plaughlin> yeah -- i'll give that a shot mf2hd
[22-May-2008 17:07:06] <pat2man> and is that why i get (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 is bad) even though snmpget .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 works just fine?
[22-May-2008 17:08:22] <mf2hd> pat2man: i'm having same kind of issue with one cisco router and with couple of APC ups
[22-May-2008 17:09:32] <pat2man> hmm, yeah, looks like I am getting lots of oid is bad errors
[22-May-2008 17:09:41] <pat2man> even on some basic things
[22-May-2008 17:09:55] <pat2man> like memAvailReal on a linux box
[22-May-2008 17:09:59] <pat2man> snmpget works fine though
[22-May-2008 17:10:04] <pat2man> *snmpget
[22-May-2008 17:12:30] <mf2hd> plaughlin: see this => http://www.zenoss.com/community/zen-of-zenoss/success-stories/webAJ
[22-May-2008 17:12:45] <adytum-bot> Title: webAJ - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-May-2008 17:12:46] <mf2hd> splunk & zenoss integration
[22-May-2008 17:13:43] <plaughlin> looking
[22-May-2008 17:14:04] <mf2hd> it seems that splunk would be one choice
[22-May-2008 17:14:42] <mf2hd> if i didn't get anything wrong... =)
[22-May-2008 17:15:32] <ghettodev> is there anyone here from zenoss?
[22-May-2008 17:16:59] <mf2hd> ghettodev: i would just remove everything for good, make reinstaal, zenrestore and zenmigrate
[22-May-2008 17:17:50] <ghettodev> i'm not sure that would help. I did a clean install on a new box two days ago
[22-May-2008 17:22:51] <pat2man> ghettodev: did you try re-installing the bad zenpacks?
[22-May-2008 17:25:39] <ghettodev> pat2man: I tried with the web ui and cli. web fails and th cli -list shows them as installed but 2 of them throw python errors and the third says it isnt installed
[22-May-2008 17:26:30] <ghettodev> pat2man: its messing up my modelling when i add devices so i'd like to remove them for now until i have time to sort out why they dont work
[22-May-2008 17:27:18] <pat2man> can you just unbind the template from your devices?
[22-May-2008 17:30:05] <ghettodev> sure but it would be cool to have it out of there. i have to pitch zenoss to my director this aft and I havent had a lot of time to get into the guts of it. would be nice not to have to explain why it says "This pack is missing or broken. You may need to restart Zope.". we have a couple hundred web and db servers so ideal sitch would be able to show him some pretty graphs
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[22-May-2008 17:41:10] <roadies> Does Zenoos support NETFlow? and if so, where does one look for it
[22-May-2008 18:22:07] <Bulwinkle> roadies: no
[22-May-2008 18:27:29] <roadies> Bulwinkle...thanks...
[22-May-2008 18:39:39] <soloman> when I try to bind standart template FileSystem I get zenoss error Value: totalBlocks when I go to perf tab
[22-May-2008 18:39:49] <soloman> anybody knows what is the issue?
[22-May-2008 18:43:52] <shoyt> soloman......did you modify the default template?
[22-May-2008 18:44:02] <soloman> no
[22-May-2008 18:44:10] <shoyt> and is it Windows or Linux?
[22-May-2008 18:44:32] <soloman> Linux Fedora 6 zenoss 2.2
[22-May-2008 18:46:00] <shoyt> there shouldn't be a totalBlocks value in the template
[22-May-2008 18:46:08] <shoyt> only usedBlocks
[22-May-2008 18:46:36] <soloman> there only usedBlocks
[22-May-2008 18:47:11] <shoyt> what is the exact error when you click Perf?
[22-May-2008 18:47:23] <shoyt> and does it happen for all devices?
[22-May-2008 18:47:37] <soloman> but the error is Type: AttributeError Value: totalBlocks
[22-May-2008 18:47:52] <soloman> it happens for my test linux device
[22-May-2008 18:48:00] <soloman> linux server
[22-May-2008 18:48:12] <shoyt> are you missing any data after the discovery?
[22-May-2008 18:48:51] <soloman> what discovery? I manually added my linux server
[22-May-2008 18:50:29] <shoyt> right......is there any data missing?
[22-May-2008 18:50:36] <soloman> I installed zenoss from zenoss-stack rpm and added this linux server.
[22-May-2008 18:50:56] <shoyt> try adding another server and see if you get the same result
[22-May-2008 18:51:06] <soloman> how can I find out if there's a data missing?
[22-May-2008 18:51:08] <shoyt> if you do, try removing it and re-adding it
[22-May-2008 18:51:27] <soloman> I tried another - the same result
[22-May-2008 18:51:33] <shoyt> when you click on Status, do you see any blank fields
[22-May-2008 18:52:00] <soloman> also i tried to remove and bind again - no luck
[22-May-2008 18:52:05] <soloman> Status work ok
[22-May-2008 18:52:48] <shoyt> did you install the core zenpack rpm?
[22-May-2008 18:54:10] <soloman> it can't be installed. Because zenoss-stack.rpm installed itself to /usr/local/zenoss and zenpack rpm tries to install to /opt/zenoss
[22-May-2008 18:55:29] <shoyt> that's a problem
[22-May-2008 18:55:51] <shoyt> check you daemons to see if they're all running
[22-May-2008 18:56:29] <soloman> they are all running
[22-May-2008 18:58:49] <soloman> standard template ethernetCsmacd causes similar issues
[22-May-2008 18:59:09] <soloman> zenoss 2.2 seems very untested
[22-May-2008 18:59:20] <shoyt> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14712
[22-May-2008 18:59:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - binding device and filesystem templates results in error (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-May-2008 19:01:24] <soloman> thank you that is the solution
[22-May-2008 20:39:38] <djs26> Hello, is this the zenoss that is the monitoring software?
[22-May-2008 20:42:28] <mrayzenoss> yes
[22-May-2008 21:07:05] <troy> afternoon
[22-May-2008 21:22:18] <mrayzenoss> howdy Troy
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[22-May-2008 21:26:41] <troy> grr
[22-May-2008 21:26:46] * troy curses his curses client
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[23-May-2008 05:23:29] <mf2hd> hehe, just called to employees healtcare
[23-May-2008 05:23:47] <mf2hd> told me that i've stopped working for my emp 2 months ago
[23-May-2008 05:24:17] <mf2hd> asked my boss that "is my paycheck still running, should i be conserned?"
[23-May-2008 06:28:16] <locohost> heh
[23-May-2008 06:28:20] <locohost> taht sucks
[23-May-2008 06:29:26] <locohost> i used to have a friend who got a letter from the irs about the estate of her deceased husband/demanding death tax
[23-May-2008 06:29:30] <locohost> but,...he was not dead
[23-May-2008 06:49:39] <mf2hd> hehe
[23-May-2008 08:46:09] <Moranah> hello
[23-May-2008 08:47:48] <Moranah> oh hai?
[23-May-2008 08:50:54] <Moranah> nevermind, I got my question answered, thanks for your support :>
[23-May-2008 09:02:47] <mf2hd> be welcome
[23-May-2008 09:02:49] <mf2hd>
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[23-May-2008 14:49:00] <mib_883y1x> Error occured: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): Products.ZenHub.PBDaemon.RemoteException: Remote exception: exceptions.AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/PBDaemon.py", line 46, in inner return callable(*args, **kw) File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/services/ThresholdMixin.py", line
[23-May-2008 14:49:19] <mib_883y1x> can anyone tell me what this error means?
[23-May-2008 16:25:08] <soloman> why my Last Collection value is always 1970/01/01 ?
[23-May-2008 16:25:19] <soloman> all the rest works ok
[23-May-2008 16:25:27] <soloman> including SNMP
[23-May-2008 16:25:33] <soloman> anobody knows?
[23-May-2008 16:33:47] <flo234> hi there! is there a zenoss-dev with a little time to answer some questions to me?
[23-May-2008 16:36:26] <flo234> is someone familiar with the zenoss-python code?
[23-May-2008 17:27:09] <twm1010> howdhowdy
[23-May-2008 17:46:00] <soloman> why my Last Collection value is always 1970/01/01 ? but SNMP is working ok
[23-May-2008 18:13:51] <twm1010> last model or last collection
[23-May-2008 18:14:03] <twm1010> ::waves:: @ mray
[23-May-2008 18:55:43] <malexherron> hey all
[23-May-2008 18:56:22] <twm1010> hey there
[23-May-2008 18:56:38] <malexherron> wondering if anyone can help me: i just upgraded to 2.2 and have no idea how to transfer all the data from my previous version (2.1.3)
[23-May-2008 18:56:46] <malexherron> sorry for the newbie question :/
[23-May-2008 18:56:54] <twm1010> i'm working on that myself, there is a command line utility called ZenBackup
[23-May-2008 18:57:16] <twm1010> I would assume this is a backup of the ZOPE database, and all your historical data
[23-May-2008 18:57:45] <malexherron> right... i backed up a tarball to my tmp directory... i dont get how to implement it in the new version... you have any luck?
[23-May-2008 18:58:06] <twm1010> Not really no, I'm taking my backup right now
[23-May-2008 18:59:00] <twm1010> my attempt at a backup timed out...
[23-May-2008 18:59:03] <malexherron> i think ZenMigrate is involved somehow... but i get some weird errors cuz the script uses relative pathnames... i have something posted to the forums... ill let you know if i find anything useful
[23-May-2008 18:59:12] <twm1010> ok
[23-May-2008 18:59:20] <malexherron> happy hunting
[23-May-2008 18:59:25] <twm1010> If I can get my Zenpack issue fixed, I won't have to do this
[23-May-2008 18:59:44] <twm1010> though, I'm thinking at this point, of just using a new 2.2VM fresh install, and re-doing everything
[23-May-2008 18:59:50] <twm1010> a pain in the ass for sure, but clean.
[23-May-2008 19:01:34] <malexherron> lol yeah they released 2.2 on THE DAY i finished loading my entire network... so im trying to avoid that doing it fresh at all costs..
[23-May-2008 19:02:47] <twm1010> Yep, I've got ALOT of customized stuff on mine...
[23-May-2008 19:03:13] <twm1010> though, what I plan to do is bring up a second VM, and just mimic the settings... all the ground/footwork is done.
[23-May-2008 19:04:36] <malexherron> hey thats not a bad idea... might copy you on that
[23-May-2008 19:07:09] <twm1010> Except the mirror for the appliance download is running @ 5KB/sec...
[23-May-2008 19:07:15] <twm1010> guess i'll wait till the weekend
[23-May-2008 19:07:47] <malexherron> or July
[23-May-2008 19:07:52] <malexherron>
[23-May-2008 19:09:38] <mrayzenoss> I actually had a discussion with the community manager for SourceForge about adding BitTorrent
[23-May-2008 19:10:27] <mrayzenoss> it's something they're looking into
[23-May-2008 19:11:28] <malexherron> i've never found torrents to be much faster... nice that bit verifies the file though...
[23-May-2008 19:17:25] <mrayzenoss> well, we discussed the fact that there are already lots of different SF mirrors, so they could have several of them act as seeders
[23-May-2008 19:17:37] <mrayzenoss> so each file would have 10+ seeders already when you connect
[23-May-2008 19:17:44] <mrayzenoss> so it would be blazing fast
[23-May-2008 19:18:08] <twm1010> indeed... good idea!
[23-May-2008 19:18:09] <mrayzenoss> assuming they got buy-in from lots of their mirrors
[23-May-2008 19:43:59] <donspaulding> I just installed the zenoss-stack package from the zenoss repo on a debian server and started it up with invoke-rc.d, what's the default url for the admin?
[23-May-2008 19:44:28] <twm1010> http://ip:8080
[23-May-2008 19:44:36] <twm1010> username admin pw zenoss
[23-May-2008 19:45:41] <donspaulding> twm1010: ouch, 500 error right off the bat.
[23-May-2008 19:45:52] <twm1010> doh
[23-May-2008 19:46:38] <donspaulding> zenoss web logs?
[23-May-2008 19:49:40] <donspaulding> totally fresh install of etch (4.0), nothing else on the box, weird.
[23-May-2008 19:54:49] <mrayzenoss> what does "zenoss status" return?
[23-May-2008 19:58:09] <malexherron> hey mray... have you seen this type of thing before?
[23-May-2008 19:58:11] <malexherron> ./zenmigrate: line 15: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[23-May-2008 19:58:29] <malexherron> zenfunctions is in the bin dir
[23-May-2008 19:59:13] <malexherron> also ./zenoss status returns no such file or dir... which, suffice to say, is bull excrement
[23-May-2008 19:59:20] <donspaulding> hrmm, in /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/log/event.log: 2008-05-23T19:17:21 ERROR Zope Couldn't install Five
[23-May-2008 19:59:50] <mrayzenoss> malexherron: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18354
[23-May-2008 20:00:02] <malexherron> thank you kindly
[23-May-2008 20:00:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenbackup Help (at community.zenoss.com)
[23-May-2008 20:03:45] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: nothing else running? That's odd
[23-May-2008 20:04:13] <twm1010> don: is MySQL started?
[23-May-2008 20:05:08] <donspaulding> twm1010: yes, at least it's listening on 3307
[23-May-2008 20:05:35] <mrayzenoss> and zenoss status says everything is running?
[23-May-2008 20:05:54] <donspaulding> the invoke-rc.d zenoss-stack start seemed to go smoothly, but I have a traceback that's eerily similar to this: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-dev/2007/000281.html
[23-May-2008 20:06:34] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: no, I get a Daemon: zeoctl Traceback
[23-May-2008 20:06:54] <donspaulding> ImportError: /usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/md5.so: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
[23-May-2008 20:07:21] <mrayzenoss> from "zenoss status"? awesome
[23-May-2008 20:07:26] <donspaulding> yep
[23-May-2008 20:07:47] <donspaulding> and for zopectl: None or no argument seeds from current time or from an operating
[23-May-2008 20:08:39] <donspaulding> full traceback .... http://dpaste.com/52334/
[23-May-2008 20:08:46] <adytum-bot> Title: dpaste: #52334: by Don Spaulding (at dpaste.com)
[23-May-2008 20:10:14] <mrayzenoss> take a look at this thread http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4567&highlight=cpersistence+undefined&sid=6ff85ca29118562854d1ee7f41dfc9e4
[23-May-2008 20:10:44] <mrayzenoss> and this thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20114
[23-May-2008 20:11:00] <mrayzenoss> even though it's not an upgrade, it's Debian debugging
[23-May-2008 20:11:09] <twm1010> this jason character is quite patient with me, i'm tempted to mail him a bottle of Jack D.
[23-May-2008 20:11:31] <mrayzenoss>
[23-May-2008 20:11:39] <mrayzenoss> he's one of our developers
[23-May-2008 20:12:00] <mrayzenoss> I send him lots of questions myself
[23-May-2008 20:12:23] <twm1010> I'm scheming right now, to build a second appliance... a much cleaner one... and move my stuff over to it
[23-May-2008 20:12:36] <twm1010> That was my zenpack issue, is a non-issue
[23-May-2008 20:13:00] <twm1010> Right now I'm trying to figure out what zenbackup actually backs up
[23-May-2008 20:13:11] <twm1010> because, i think there is a lot of it I would NOT want to move over...
[23-May-2008 20:15:52] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I think there's a way to do that
[23-May-2008 20:16:00] <mrayzenoss> let me know if you see it
[23-May-2008 20:16:32] <mrayzenoss> Chapter 22 of the Admin Guide
[23-May-2008 20:17:25] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: if you're still stuck, I'd say hit the forums. They're still watching for 2.2 issues
[23-May-2008 20:18:02] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: I assume it's all the right 32-bit vs. 64-bit DEBs?
[23-May-2008 20:18:22] <twm1010> speaking of that admin guide, how about a bookmarked index
[23-May-2008 20:18:26] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: I didn't specify
[23-May-2008 20:18:43] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I've been harping about that for awhile.
[23-May-2008 20:18:44] * donspaulding hates forums
[23-May-2008 20:18:47] <mrayzenoss> I'm gonna go open a ticket
[23-May-2008 20:18:55] * donspaulding loves getting help though
[23-May-2008 20:18:58] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: well, you can do them as mailing lists as well
[23-May-2008 20:19:09] <mrayzenoss> they're cross-posted, so you can use either interface
[23-May-2008 20:19:15] <mrayzenoss> I use mail myself
[23-May-2008 20:19:16] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: sweet
[23-May-2008 20:19:28] <twm1010> Ahh see... this wouldn't help me then, because I would not want to move over the zope database, just my performance data
[23-May-2008 20:20:10] <twm1010> I'll be geeking it up all weekend... we're doing migrations and such, maybe I'll get some reading done
[23-May-2008 20:20:16] <mrayzenoss> hmmmm... post it on the forums, I bet someone knows a bit more than me.
[23-May-2008 20:20:20] <pat2man> twm1010: you could probably just copy the performance data manually
[23-May-2008 20:21:15] <twm1010> Yep, I can, just want to make sure I give everything the same names.... etc...
[23-May-2008 20:21:35] <pat2man> ah, yeah
[23-May-2008 20:21:42] <twm1010> I've started over before, not a big deal. At least I don't have to go to all 200 servers and routers and setup SNMP again
[23-May-2008 20:22:14] <twm1010> some of it I automated, some I didn't
[23-May-2008 20:22:51] <pat2man> anyone been getting these issues: Error reading value for "memAvailReal" on <server> (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0 is bad)
[23-May-2008 20:23:19] <pat2man> but this works fine: snmpget -c public -v 2c <server> 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0
[23-May-2008 20:25:21] <mrayzenoss> later everyone, gotta go work
[23-May-2008 20:26:31] <twm1010> Thats kind of odd
[23-May-2008 20:26:49] <twm1010> what kind of server is it trying to poll
[23-May-2008 20:27:06] <pat2man> its a fedora box
[23-May-2008 20:27:42] <twm1010> well if the get works, but the one in the template does not, i'd call that a bug
[23-May-2008 20:28:06] <pat2man> I am pretty sure it worked in 2.1.x
[23-May-2008 20:28:32] <pat2man> i would file a bug but its pretty vague, especially since it works on other servers
[23-May-2008 20:29:27] <twm1010> yes, quite odd
[23-May-2008 20:29:37] <twm1010> try stopping and starting the SNMP service on that box thats doing it
[23-May-2008 20:30:04] <twm1010> im out! later...
[23-May-2008 20:31:14] <malexherron> hey... any idea why zenmib would skip over certain MIBs
[23-May-2008 20:33:19] <malexherron> forget it
[23-May-2008 20:34:51] <pat2man> well for anyone who cares about my above issue, I deleted the device, re-added it and everything is fine
[23-May-2008 20:36:05] <malexherron> weird
[23-May-2008 20:36:15] <malexherron> good to know
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[23-May-2008 21:24:43] <malexherron> doing a zenrestore... pray for me
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[23-May-2008 21:29:44] * pat2man prays
[23-May-2008 21:32:40] <malexherron> pat2man: lol thanks
[23-May-2008 21:44:12] <donspaulding> huh, I just had too little memory allocated to zenoss.
[23-May-2008 21:44:24] <donspaulding> apparently 512 ain't enough for what it does.
[23-May-2008 21:57:52] <malexherron> donspaulding: what'd you change it to?
[23-May-2008 21:57:59] <malexherron> > 1gb?
[23-May-2008 21:58:19] <donspaulding> just 1GB
[23-May-2008 21:58:59] <malexherron> cool good to know... have a good three day weekend.. im looking forward to not htinking about this for a few days
[23-May-2008 22:03:56] <donspaulding> hrm, now I'm getting a "Cannot communicate with server" error on the device list page.
[23-May-2008 22:18:58] <donspaulding> oh, and that was just the /etc/hosts issue. I'm up and running :-D
[23-May-2008 22:19:04] <donspaulding> later folks!
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[25-May-2008 04:46:16] <troy> hark
[25-May-2008 04:46:39] <djs> hark?
[25-May-2008 04:46:52] <troy> just hark
[25-May-2008 04:47:01] <djs> Indeed
[25-May-2008 04:47:01] troy is now known as troy42
[25-May-2008 04:48:04] <troy42> how's your evening been?
[25-May-2008 04:48:09] <troy42> timezone permitting
[25-May-2008 04:48:52] <djs> EST here.
[25-May-2008 04:49:03] <djs> It has bee nice. Taco Bell for din din.
[25-May-2008 04:49:29] <djs> Dorky TV movie on the tele, and playing with my new supybot.
[25-May-2008 04:51:09] <troy42> what's (s)he do?
[25-May-2008 04:52:27] <djs> He, I think, and lots.
[25-May-2008 04:52:53] <djs> Games, insults, googling, chanops, etc.
[25-May-2008 05:00:27] <troy42> fun
[25-May-2008 05:01:25] <djs> Yeah, I am enjoying it so far.
[25-May-2008 05:01:31] <djs> On 4 channels already.
[25-May-2008 05:02:58] <troy42> [22:02] <#include/troy> sheepie, raep?
[25-May-2008 05:02:58] <troy42> [22:02] <#include/sheepie> I'M GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATE RED DWARF SHOWING AT MY HOUSE TOMORROW NIGHT AND YOU'RE ALL
[25-May-2008 05:02:58] <troy42> INVITED. YOU BRING THE DALEKS.
[25-May-2008 05:03:03] <troy42> ^ a favorite bot of mine
[25-May-2008 05:03:38] <djs> o_0
[25-May-2008 05:03:45] <troy42> replete with retina-scarring ascii art on command
[25-May-2008 05:05:04] <djs> EEk
[25-May-2008 05:08:29] <djs> Had the whole goatse db linked, eh?
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[26-May-2008 13:16:50] <aurax> hello
[26-May-2008 13:16:52] <aurax> anyone around ?
[26-May-2008 13:17:16] <aurax> i have a fast question regarding to reset ip, i have a lot of machines in my network using dhcp but zenoss does not try to update the new ip's automatically....
[26-May-2008 13:17:19] <aurax> any idea how to fix it ?
[26-May-2008 13:27:59] <aurax> so is there a way to tell zenoss to resolve hosts to ip's every x seconds ?
[26-May-2008 13:34:09] <MrTux> try rerunning the modeler
[26-May-2008 13:34:20] <MrTux> and reset the deviceip before
[26-May-2008 14:22:21] <aurax> is there a way to automate it ?
[26-May-2008 21:54:31] <TM4> No data in perf graphs monitoring win2k3 box, any common ideas I may have missed?
[26-May-2008 22:05:00] <npmccallum> anyone know how to, in zendmd, get an object by its path?
[26-May-2008 22:09:44] <npmccallum> magnachef: ^^^ ?
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[27-May-2008 09:45:52] <kop_> is there any way to apply methods to TALES stuff?
[27-May-2008 09:47:05] <kop_> for example, I'd like to apply .trim() to a ${here/property}
[27-May-2008 10:13:40] <kop_> (no)
[27-May-2008 12:19:41] djs26 is now known as djs
[27-May-2008 13:08:27] <kop_> idle idle
[27-May-2008 13:08:46] <kop_> I wish the devs were closer to europe
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[27-May-2008 13:09:39] <MrTux> kop_: i wish the devs were closer to earth
[27-May-2008 13:53:54] <npmccallum> anyone know anything about expanding the ZopeDB in a ZenPack?
[27-May-2008 14:00:02] <npmccallum> Basically I want to create a new set of items (like a userCommand) in the tree and have a page to manage them
[27-May-2008 14:00:21] <npmccallum> I assume that I need a new subclass of ZenModelRM...
[27-May-2008 14:34:40] <jp10558> I'm trying to set event severity on a filesystem via a script in the Filesystem Transform tab, as suggested on http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch10s15.html under 15.4. Event Transforms Based on Device Class. The problem I'm having is I'm trying to do more than one change, but the script doesn't seem to work
[27-May-2008 14:34:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 14:35:05] <jp10558> I'm sort of trying to hack around needing different thresholds for different filesystems ....
[27-May-2008 14:35:12] <jp10558> anyone have any better ideas?
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[27-May-2008 15:00:58] <kop_> jp10558: huh
[27-May-2008 15:05:47] <kop_> jp10558: any exceptions in the logfile?
[27-May-2008 15:07:11] <kop_> jp10558: remember that you can create any custom property for any device (like myFSThreshold) and use that in the transform
[27-May-2008 16:23:15] <garnica> What would you do to get all defined devices in Zenoss from a command line ?
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[27-May-2008 17:07:46] <kop_> garnica: google
[27-May-2008 17:07:59] <garnica> ok kop_
[27-May-2008 17:08:54] <jb> anyone here monitoring windows devices?
[27-May-2008 17:08:55] <kop_> [d.name for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices()]
[27-May-2008 17:09:02] <kop_> or something like that
[27-May-2008 17:09:39] <kop_> garnica: you probably want to use zendmd, given that you want it programatically
[27-May-2008 17:09:53] <jb> having issues with windows devices.. no errors in the model that I can see (wmi seems to be working fine).. but no graphs are being made, no winservices, etc
[27-May-2008 17:10:04] <kop_> garnica: otherwise there's probably some report under /Reports that will provide you with a list
[27-May-2008 17:10:36] <garnica> yeah I was trying zendmd
[27-May-2008 17:11:24] <jsm> i'm getting errors when starting a fresh 2.2.0 install... when starting the zenoss-stack daemon i get the following: http://rafb.net/p/qlnq0y65.html
[27-May-2008 17:11:31] <jsm> end result is nothing is running on 8080
[27-May-2008 17:11:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)
[27-May-2008 17:23:33] <jb> ok its definetely not WMI.
[27-May-2008 17:23:41] <jb> someone here must be monitoring windows?
[27-May-2008 17:32:23] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading config for devices
[27-May-2008 17:34:03] <jb> man the search on the forums really sucks
[27-May-2008 18:01:52] <jp10558> kop_: sorry, I ran away... Which logfile ought I look in?
[27-May-2008 18:02:16] <jp10558> jb:
[27-May-2008 18:02:33] <jp10558> Make sure you have Informant installed on the Windows machines
[27-May-2008 18:37:56] <magnachef> when using HttpMonitor zenpack, is there a way to monitor the site via the default size and time, but also do a port 80 check on the domain?
[27-May-2008 18:38:32] <`m3> what is the default size and time ?
[27-May-2008 18:38:50] <magnachef> those are the default metrics that come with the ZenPack
[27-May-2008 18:38:54] <magnachef> they're just data sources
[27-May-2008 18:39:24] <magnachef> but I'd like to also have it test port 80 as well
[27-May-2008 18:39:36] <magnachef> like a traditional IPService check
[27-May-2008 18:39:40] <`m3> not sure not using the http-monitor
[27-May-2008 18:39:58] <`m3> i know IP services portscan plugin does that tho
[27-May-2008 18:40:04] <magnachef> yeah, I just started using it today
[27-May-2008 18:40:08] <`m3> you might need both to achieve what you want
[27-May-2008 18:40:23] <magnachef> yeah, I'm wondering if I need to also bind the device template as well
[27-May-2008 18:40:39] <magnachef> or make another template to do the port checking
[27-May-2008 18:40:43] <magnachef> ...not sure though
[27-May-2008 18:40:51] <`m3> yeh perf templates are a bit mysterious i have to get more practice
[27-May-2008 18:42:30] <magnachef> does anyone know if I need to bind another template to get the port checking capability to my website check
[27-May-2008 18:42:31] <`m3> i cant make sense of it after reading the docs
[27-May-2008 18:42:31] <`m3> i get events like http ( 80) down on device xxxx
[27-May-2008 18:42:33] <`m3> with the ip services portscan collector
[27-May-2008 18:42:39] <`m3> you prob want to do it the easy way, so use that collector
[27-May-2008 18:43:21] <`m3> i dont believe templates have any thing to do with what services are monitored
[27-May-2008 18:43:35] <`m3> just for performance graphing, thats my understanding
[27-May-2008 18:43:50] <`m3> collectors == what collects the data
[27-May-2008 18:44:08] <`m3> the template is used for making graphs etc
[27-May-2008 18:44:34] <magnachef> in the httpmonitor docs, it tells you to unbind the default template so that you're not monitoring via ping, etc
[27-May-2008 18:45:02] <`m3> maybe i am misunderstand the concept then !
[27-May-2008 18:48:32] <`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch07s07.html
[27-May-2008 18:48:36] <`m3> might be helpful
[27-May-2008 18:48:42] <`m3> docs have improved ;p
[27-May-2008 18:48:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> improved docs would be a god-send
[27-May-2008 18:50:19] <`m3> yeh ok , i get it now, if you specify a zDeviceTemplates you over ride the defaults, but id love to see a practical example of binding
[27-May-2008 18:51:24] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[27-May-2008 18:51:30] <`m3> but i think my understanding of how it works is right, the zproperty for zDeviceTemplates is new to me, but thats all
[27-May-2008 18:51:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 18:53:31] <`m3> i dont get the choices i expect ,when i try to bind, only mysql etc are bindable
[27-May-2008 18:53:49] <`m3> havnt got my zenoss installation in front of me to explain
[27-May-2008 18:54:25] <`m3> pretty sure something is broken on my setup though, with regards to perf monitoring
[27-May-2008 18:54:32] <`m3> some missing RRD files etc
[27-May-2008 19:04:52] <jb> is anyone here monitoring windows hosts? I am having a problem with no graphs/perf tab working..
[27-May-2008 19:05:09] <jb> (snmp informant is installed)
[27-May-2008 19:05:26] <`m3> jb: do you have snmp / wmi enabled ?
[27-May-2008 19:06:03] <`m3> what collector plugins do you have configured for server/windows class ?
[27-May-2008 19:06:15] <`m3> are the devices modelling correctly ?
[27-May-2008 19:06:22] <jb> yeah
[27-May-2008 19:06:24] <jb> no model errors
[27-May-2008 19:06:34] <jb> snmp/wmi works fine.. i am monitoring windows services with no issues
[27-May-2008 19:06:44] <jb> all other stats are populated.. filesystems/hardware/routes/etc
[27-May-2008 19:06:52] <jb> the Perf tab has a ZenOSS error
[27-May-2008 19:07:01] <jb> and the ethernet graphs just say that they are missing RRds
[27-May-2008 19:07:04] <`m3> tried tailing $ZENHOME/log/zen*perf*
[27-May-2008 19:07:18] <`m3> yes i have the same ! only for some devices tho
[27-May-2008 19:07:30] <jb> yeah ive tried
[27-May-2008 19:07:34] <jb> there is an error
[27-May-2008 19:07:37] <jb> but I can't make any sense of it
[27-May-2008 19:07:39] <`m3> hoping to get to the bottom of it tonight, if you get success let me know , iwill do same
[27-May-2008 19:07:41] <`m3> whats the error
[27-May-2008 19:08:06] <jb> sec
[27-May-2008 19:08:50] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1031282
[27-May-2008 19:08:57] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1031282 (at pastebin.ca)
[27-May-2008 19:08:59] <jb> thats when I click "perf" for any device in /Server/Windows
[27-May-2008 19:09:45] <`m3> might be the zeodb out of whack, theres a script out on the web to reindex it
[27-May-2008 19:10:00] <`m3> i would make yourself a script, i called it cleanzen.sh
[27-May-2008 19:10:37] <`m3> stop zenoss remove .pickle / other (*cache files cant remember ), start zenoss, reindex the zeo db
[27-May-2008 19:11:00] <jb> hm
[27-May-2008 19:11:06] <crow> .zec
[27-May-2008 19:11:10] <`m3> indeed
[27-May-2008 19:12:08] <jb> alright lets try that
[27-May-2008 19:12:08] <jb> sec
[27-May-2008 19:12:13] <`m3> yes that error doesnt mean much to me either jb
[27-May-2008 19:12:16] <jb> how do you reindex the deb?
[27-May-2008 19:12:17] <jb> db
[27-May-2008 19:12:26] <`m3> trying to find the exact source
[27-May-2008 19:12:37] <`m3> otherwise i copy send you it tomorrow
[27-May-2008 19:13:20] <jb> k
[27-May-2008 19:13:47] <jb> odd.. did the 2.2 upgrade change the mysql db password/
[27-May-2008 19:13:48] <jb> ?
[27-May-2008 19:14:15] <`m3> i didnt upgrade ;p
[27-May-2008 19:14:30] <`m3> waiting for enterprise version
[27-May-2008 19:14:39] <crow> same
[27-May-2008 19:14:57] <`m3> how are your perf templates crow
[27-May-2008 19:15:06] <crow> specifically?
[27-May-2008 19:16:17] <jb> whats your reasoning for upgrading to enterprise?
[27-May-2008 19:16:19] <jb> just curious
[27-May-2008 19:16:25] <`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossannouncement.2008-04-08.3248712225
[27-May-2008 19:16:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Core 2.1.90 (Zenoss 2.2 Beta 1) Available for Download - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 19:16:44] <`m3> that kinda implies the template stuff is buggy
[27-May-2008 19:17:16] <`m3> jb: its a work thing, we dont mind paying for vendor support when its important to us
[27-May-2008 19:17:25] <crow> templates have been fine. mostly dealing with occasional performance issues
[27-May-2008 19:17:26] <`m3> time = money and all
[27-May-2008 19:17:39] <`m3> crow: cool, i noticed it needs serious HP
[27-May-2008 19:17:48] <crow> very serious
[27-May-2008 19:17:54] <`m3> ran like a dog with 4 cpu and 4gb ram
[27-May-2008 19:18:00] <crow> I've got big servers choking
[27-May-2008 19:18:09] <jb> `m3: so, did you guys work out a price?
[27-May-2008 19:18:13] <`m3> its running better on seperate raid controllers and 8 proc 8 gb ram
[27-May-2008 19:18:18] <jb> surely you aren't paying what is posted on the website..
[27-May-2008 19:18:21] <`m3> jb: didnt get involved at that level
[27-May-2008 19:18:30] <`m3> just the tech
[27-May-2008 19:18:48] <`m3> i dont think its cheap
[27-May-2008 19:18:50] <jb> im monitoring ~100 devices right now on a single xeon 3.06ghz with 2gb ram
[27-May-2008 19:18:55] <jb> but im about to put it on a beefier box..
[27-May-2008 19:19:03] <crow> yeah, I dont do the money stuff
[27-May-2008 19:19:13] <`m3> i had all sorts of issues just because it wasnt on a big enough box
[27-May-2008 19:19:26] <crow> it likes a lot of RAM. Depending on the number of OIDs you collect there is significant disk IO
[27-May-2008 19:19:28] <`m3> its stable enough to work on fast now
[27-May-2008 19:19:33] <jb> no perf issues really
[27-May-2008 19:19:38] <jb> how many devices?
[27-May-2008 19:19:40] <crow> a lot of RAM gives you a decent disk buffer
[27-May-2008 19:22:12] <crow> the number of OIDS and the frequency of polling is the number to watch out for, especially with large switches and VLANs
[27-May-2008 19:22:38] <`m3> thats probably why i had search crap perf
[27-May-2008 19:22:58] <`m3> doesnt help that the modeller goes fuck nuts and models foreign stuff by default ;p
[27-May-2008 19:23:19] <`m3> such , not search*
[27-May-2008 19:23:19] <crow> What do you mean by foreign?
[27-May-2008 19:23:39] <`m3> well if my stuff is in 10.10.x.x
[27-May-2008 19:23:54] <`m3> the modeller starts finding internet addresses
[27-May-2008 19:24:09] <`m3> because of other connections, vpns etc
[27-May-2008 19:24:19] <crow> if you have a lot of devices you could break out dedicated pollers.
[27-May-2008 19:24:24] <`m3> i guess i am running the routes collector maps etc , and thats why
[27-May-2008 19:24:41] <`m3> yes i am considering a collector only device
[27-May-2008 19:24:49] <`m3> i did install one to test it all out
[27-May-2008 19:25:01] <jb> oh, im not monitoring any switches with zen..
[27-May-2008 19:25:30] <`m3> i just let the modeller go nuts and ended up modeller pretty much everything
[27-May-2008 19:25:31] <jp10558> I've looked in all the logs
[27-May-2008 19:25:43] <jp10558> and I've not found anything about errors with the transform
[27-May-2008 19:25:53] <jp10558> Maybe I just don't understand the instructions for this
[27-May-2008 19:25:59] <`m3> jp10558: tricky one
[27-May-2008 19:26:11] <`m3> dont apply transforms at event level if you can help it
[27-May-2008 19:26:24] <`m3> there is also a place to put transforms at the class level
[27-May-2008 19:26:55] <`m3> use that instead, especially if you dont have a component in your event
[27-May-2008 19:27:23] <`m3> in fact, your transform will fail at event level with no component in that event
[27-May-2008 19:28:13] <jb> transforms are tricky
[27-May-2008 19:28:52] <jb> but damnit, i still can't get the windows perf tab working
[27-May-2008 19:29:32] <`m3> i am just building a new zenoss core machine to do it again from scratch
[27-May-2008 19:29:34] <jp10558> Hmmm, ok. So here's what I'm trying to do - I want to make certain filesystems threshold differently than others on the same system, as some are system, others data ...
[27-May-2008 19:29:39] <`m3> need this perf stuff cracked
[27-May-2008 19:29:43] <jb> yeah me too
[27-May-2008 19:29:46] <`m3> i opened a ticket with zenoss too
[27-May-2008 19:29:47] <jb> theres no way im rebuilding from scratch
[27-May-2008 19:29:55] <`m3> so one way or the other its gonna get solved
[27-May-2008 19:30:00] <`m3> me either
[27-May-2008 19:30:10] <jb> i thought about installing a new 2.2, and seeing if it worked
[27-May-2008 19:30:12] <jp10558> Are there any info on the class level transforms?
[27-May-2008 19:30:12] <`m3> installing core localy to test is one thing
[27-May-2008 19:30:14] <jb> i'll try that if you are too..
[27-May-2008 19:30:21] <jp10558> as I was just goiing by the admin guide
[27-May-2008 19:30:24] <`m3> but i got nearly 2k devices going
[27-May-2008 19:30:28] <jb> i have a VM i can use here..
[27-May-2008 19:31:02] <jb> let me know how that goes m3
[27-May-2008 19:31:32] <`m3> will do
[27-May-2008 19:32:18] <`m3> jp10558: same transform, just look for the transform where you get modeller etc in the left menu
[27-May-2008 19:32:39] <`m3> i mean the same python transform
[27-May-2008 19:34:28] <crow> we found that performance really drops off around 1500 devices. we try to keep <2000 per poller and have been much happier
[27-May-2008 19:35:03] <`m3> nice tip crow, will bear that in mind
[27-May-2008 19:36:03] <`m3> crow, your running mysql with what type of db ?
[27-May-2008 19:36:24] <`m3> innodb or myiasm or whatever it is
[27-May-2008 19:36:44] <jp10558> `m3: so you mean, go to say, /Devices/Server/Linux and do ... what? I don't see transform from the dropdown or anything - I'm using 2.1.2
[27-May-2008 19:37:11] <djs26> crow: What hardware are you running those pollers on?
[27-May-2008 19:37:32] <`m3> jp10558: its there, as long as your doing it under classes not from the device list etc
[27-May-2008 19:37:59] <`m3> my internet is too slow for me to think about a screen capture or so
[27-May-2008 19:38:29] <crow> dual opteron, local raid1+0, 32GB ram
[27-May-2008 19:38:43] <`m3> heavy on the ram, like your style
[27-May-2008 19:39:08] <djs26> Wow, nice specs.
[27-May-2008 19:39:48] <crow> it's a big install, we are pulling *lots* of data. ended up just throwing RAM at it to keep it happy.
[27-May-2008 19:40:01] <`m3> its nice to have the budget
[27-May-2008 19:40:05] <crow> definitely
[27-May-2008 19:40:25] <`m3> i didnt think my place was tight, i asked for 16gb of ram, but i think they thought i was sporting it up
[27-May-2008 19:40:42] <`m3> but thats my experience of monitoring , if you want speed you need ram
[27-May-2008 19:40:52] <`m3> swap is the enema
[27-May-2008 19:40:54] <`m3> ;p
[27-May-2008 19:41:17] <crow> I cant wait till solid state starts becoming an option.
[27-May-2008 19:41:39] <crow> of course that will lead to even less optimizting on the code end, so the net benefit may be small
[27-May-2008 19:41:54] <`m3> i have a feeling that doesnt bother you in your job
[27-May-2008 19:41:55] <`m3> ;p
[27-May-2008 19:42:23] <_LoneCrow> Will Zenoss work with netflow?
[27-May-2008 19:42:23] <jb> crow: 2000 devices, or 2000 polls?
[27-May-2008 19:42:26] <crow> ha, that budget would need more zeros I think.
[27-May-2008 19:42:41] <crow> 2000 devices per poller max
[27-May-2008 19:42:52] <`m3> and the main zenoss device ?
[27-May-2008 19:42:54] <jb> ok
[27-May-2008 19:43:01] <crow> none devices
[27-May-2008 19:43:09] <`m3> hmmm
[27-May-2008 19:43:19] <crow> at least in our install, you could keep some on there depending on the number of pollers
[27-May-2008 19:43:37] <`m3> not the kind of thing you wanna move around tho crow
[27-May-2008 19:43:41] <jb> im swapping right now..
[27-May-2008 19:43:45] <jb> this box only has 2GB of ram
[27-May-2008 19:43:51] <jb> but its only monitoring ~100 devices
[27-May-2008 19:44:18] <`m3> you suffering load , excess IO wait ?
[27-May-2008 19:44:30] <`m3> that should be the judge really
[27-May-2008 19:45:45] <`m3> jb perf works fine on my core install ;0
[27-May-2008 19:46:01] <`m3> so def something broke in my install , dammit
[27-May-2008 19:46:09] <jb> 14:46:06 up 113 days, 3:29, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.12, 0.16
[27-May-2008 19:46:16] <jb> i/o looks fine right now
[27-May-2008 19:46:24] <jb> grr
[27-May-2008 19:46:27] <`m3> yeh thats not struggling
[27-May-2008 19:46:35] <jb> ok, I bet it's something that broke in the upgrade
[27-May-2008 19:46:40] <jb> nobody responded on the forum
[27-May-2008 19:46:59] <`m3> i guess zenoss is relativly new
[27-May-2008 19:47:16] <`m3> not many people out there have used it as in depth as apache or linux itself ;p
[27-May-2008 19:47:19] * magnachef has a great fear of doing a Zenoss upgrade
[27-May-2008 19:47:29] <jb> the upgrade messed some stuff up for me
[27-May-2008 19:47:37] <`m3> zenoss is an internal tool
[27-May-2008 19:47:44] <jb> but i really need to get this perf working..
[27-May-2008 19:47:46] <magnachef> yeah, I upgraded from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3, and it messed everything up
[27-May-2008 19:48:03] <magnachef> to the point that I started again from scratch, which was ok at the time because it wasn't production
[27-May-2008 19:48:14] <jb> m3, so you have modeling errors?
[27-May-2008 19:48:16] <`m3> with correct backups you should be able to go back
[27-May-2008 19:48:28] <jb> i cant even run zenbackup now
[27-May-2008 19:48:29] <`m3> i just tar up /opt/zenoss and dump mysql
[27-May-2008 19:48:32] <jb> mysql connection errors
[27-May-2008 19:48:53] <`m3> i do my own backups because i understand em ;p
[27-May-2008 19:49:05] <jb> yeah
[27-May-2008 19:49:15] <`m3> not saying zenbackup doesnt work, never needed it , tar and gzip what more
[27-May-2008 19:49:43] <jb> m3, so you have modeling errors?
[27-May-2008 19:49:45] <`m3> the mysql stuff is just for events anyway
[27-May-2008 19:49:45] <jb> with the windows boxes
[27-May-2008 19:49:48] <jb> on yoru current install
[27-May-2008 19:49:55] <`m3> jb: in the main no
[27-May-2008 19:50:03] <`m3> i have ~800 windows clients
[27-May-2008 19:50:09] <jb> just the zen error when you click on the perf tab?
[27-May-2008 19:50:18] <`m3> ~ 60% work
[27-May-2008 19:50:27] <`m3> some just dont have snmpd fixed yet etc
[27-May-2008 19:50:36] <jb> hm
[27-May-2008 19:50:46] <`m3> jb, no just broken RRD / missing RRD
[27-May-2008 19:50:56] <jb> yeah my ethernet is that..
[27-May-2008 19:50:58] <`m3> for ones that are working with wmi and snmp
[27-May-2008 19:51:07] <`m3> all my eth stuff is ok
[27-May-2008 19:51:16] <`m3> it might be to do with how i added them
[27-May-2008 19:51:45] <jb> MISSING RRD FILE
[27-May-2008 19:51:45] <`m3> i found modelling a slow process so added them all into /devices/discovered with proto=none
[27-May-2008 19:51:46] <jb> for mien
[27-May-2008 19:52:22] <`m3> and then modelled them based on the class ( moving devices into the right class should have activated the right templates )
[27-May-2008 19:52:32] <`m3> well thats my understanding of things
[27-May-2008 19:52:58] <`m3> but the initial model / template binding that happens might be important
[27-May-2008 19:53:32] <`m3> try deleting / readding a device
[27-May-2008 19:53:44] <`m3> it your got no perf data, then your not losing much
[27-May-2008 19:54:04] <`m3> i think it stays in history regardless
[27-May-2008 19:54:11] <`m3> ( the events )
[27-May-2008 19:56:32] <jb> nope it errors out
[27-May-2008 19:56:35] <jb> same place
[27-May-2008 19:57:09] <jb> i do see this in zenperfsnmp's logs
[27-May-2008 19:57:09] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading config for devices ['solarwinds.corp.follett.com']
[27-May-2008 19:57:17] <jb> when i do a 'zenperfsnmp run -v10 -d device'
[27-May-2008 19:57:22] <jp10558> I just don't see it...
[27-May-2008 19:57:30] <jp10558> I must be missing something.
[27-May-2008 19:58:43] <jb> so its missing the config
[27-May-2008 19:58:50] <jb> but im not sure what config its talking about
[27-May-2008 20:01:06] <_LoneCrow> Does Zenoss work with netflow? or have plans to incorporate netflow into it?
[27-May-2008 20:02:05] <magnachef> not sure...have you checked the forums?
[27-May-2008 20:03:59] <jb> there are no netflow modules..
[27-May-2008 20:04:52] <_LoneCrow> I see some discussions about people wanting it but no thing whether people are actually working on it
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[27-May-2008 20:59:45] <npmccallum> so, does anyone know anything about adding data into the tree via a ZenPack?
[27-May-2008 20:59:54] <npmccallum> I should say, new types of data...
[27-May-2008 21:25:24] <jb> grr
[27-May-2008 21:25:35] <jb> zenbackup/zenrestore doesn't work properly
[27-May-2008 21:25:36] <jb> 2.2 -> 2.2
[27-May-2008 21:27:44] <jb> thats nice..
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[28-May-2008 02:46:33] <will-firewall> anyone know how to get the route table from Cisco PIX/ASA? So far have been able to get it on every other platform we've tried, but none of the SNMP collectors seem to be doing the trick (tried route, newroute, and the Cisco one for routers)
[28-May-2008 04:25:03] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Mantissa: An Alternative to LAMP - 27 May, 10:06PM
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[28-May-2008 06:07:14] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[28-May-2008 08:18:00] <troy42> woot
[28-May-2008 08:43:01] <_pok> ping
[28-May-2008 09:52:56] <nemo_> jp10558, still having the transform issue ?
[28-May-2008 09:53:28] <nemo_> and i forget who i promised the zeo db reindex script .. ( nemo==m3 from last night)
[28-May-2008 10:48:40] <_pok> I figured out by myself that I had to reindex() stuff after upgrading
[28-May-2008 10:48:49] <_pok> search didn't work
[28-May-2008 10:49:06] <_pok> wasn't mentioned in the upgrade guide :-F
[28-May-2008 11:19:20] <_pok> Timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running
[28-May-2008 11:19:25] <_pok> now what
[28-May-2008 11:20:42] <_pok> raise ValueError("corrupted record, oid")
[28-May-2008 11:33:26] <MrTux> _pok: delete the zeo caches and restart zeo should help
[28-May-2008 11:33:33] <MrTux> _pok: google will tell you more
[28-May-2008 11:39:13] klaf is now known as afk_away
[28-May-2008 12:49:50] <nemo_> _pok, all
[28-May-2008 12:49:51] <nemo_> http://pastebin.org/39177
[28-May-2008 12:49:55] <nemo_> script to clean zenoss
[28-May-2008 12:49:58] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.org)
[28-May-2008 13:19:46] <ckrough> anybody on running multiple pollers?
[28-May-2008 13:40:53] <_pok> nemo_: yeah that got it running again
[28-May-2008 13:43:01] <_pok> hmm should it be considered "pythonic" to use dir(env) to detect if a property is set in an event?
[28-May-2008 13:43:16] <_pok> (-I guess so)
[28-May-2008 13:44:05] <_pok> [x[4] for x in dir(env) if x.startswith("unit")][0]
[28-May-2008 13:44:38] <_pok> however I'm skeptical towards its legibility
[28-May-2008 13:45:23] klaf is now known as afk_away
[28-May-2008 13:45:38] afk_away is now known as klaf
[28-May-2008 13:54:13] <nemo_> _pok, no idea what is really pythonic
[28-May-2008 13:54:35] <nemo_> i am a python n00b, only got into it because of zenoss
[28-May-2008 14:07:33] <ckrough> whoami
[28-May-2008 14:07:38] <ckrough> ls /etc/cron.hourly/
[28-May-2008 14:07:45] <ckrough> rofl. woops
[28-May-2008 14:08:14] <ckrough> mouse focus ftw!
[28-May-2008 14:17:28] <_pok> I don't think I understand what the event class transform is for
[28-May-2008 14:17:51] <_pok> event class MAPPING transform is one thing, I use that a lot
[28-May-2008 14:18:31] <_pok> but in addition to that you can add a Transform to the entire event class
[28-May-2008 14:23:35] <jb> nemo
[28-May-2008 14:23:45] <jb> where is reindex_zeodb.py?
[28-May-2008 14:40:43] <nemo_> jb : I paste it here
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> -bash-3.1# cat reindex_zeodb.py
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> #!/opt/zenoss/bin/python
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> import Globals
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> from transaction import commit
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> from Products.ZenUtils.ZenScriptBase import ZenScriptBase
[28-May-2008 14:41:08] <nemo_> import commands
[28-May-2008 14:41:10] <nemo_> dmd = ZenScriptBase(connect=True).dmd
[28-May-2008 14:41:12] <nemo_> dmd.Devices.reIndex()
[28-May-2008 14:41:14] <nemo_> commit()
[28-May-2008 14:41:46] <jb> argh, i cannot sovle this perf problem for windows boxes
[28-May-2008 14:41:55] <jb> zen crashes/errors out every time I click on the perf tab
[28-May-2008 14:42:00] <nemo_> i switch all windows perf off today ;p
[28-May-2008 14:42:06] <nemo_> no reply from the zenmasters yet
[28-May-2008 14:42:13] <jb> and i think its due to the "MISSING CONFIG" error
[28-May-2008 14:42:17] <jb> yours doesnt work either?
[28-May-2008 14:42:18] <nemo_> worked on core install, dont know what else i can do
[28-May-2008 14:42:29] <nemo_> dont wanna mess too much with working system
[28-May-2008 14:42:43] <nemo_> paid support can look while i research other things ;p
[28-May-2008 14:43:00] <jb> oh is this m3?
[28-May-2008 14:59:26] <jb> now my used/free bytes on windnows boxes are all unknown
[28-May-2008 14:59:31] <jb> and a backup/restore of 2.2 doesnt work.
[28-May-2008 14:59:43] <jb> this upgrade really screwed me
[28-May-2008 15:03:39] <plamen> Hello
[28-May-2008 15:07:35] <plamen> I would like to add to zenoss managed device some properties that the user can change (through snmp). These are not counters to monitor but editable r/w fields. Is there easy way in zenoss to add custom properties in the device UI ?
[28-May-2008 15:09:23] <nemo_> jb: yup
[28-May-2008 15:10:00] <nemo_> plamen, i have modded the UI a bit, not a great idea unless you know what your doing
[28-May-2008 15:10:09] * nemo_ runs around with cowboy hat on
[28-May-2008 15:10:26] <nemo_> look for .pt files ( python templates )
[28-May-2008 15:11:35] <plamen> thanks. I will check them. There is no way to accomplish this from the Web interface?
[28-May-2008 15:12:31] <nemo_> not that i know of
[28-May-2008 15:12:54] <nemo_> i am pretty sure theres not, because it was a zenoss engineer who showed me the templates
[28-May-2008 15:13:01] <nemo_> unless he was just being an ass ;p
[28-May-2008 15:13:26] <plamen>
[28-May-2008 15:13:30] <plamen> ok. thanks
[28-May-2008 15:23:07] <nemo_> jb
[28-May-2008 15:23:16] <nemo_> i got the same erorrs i think:
[28-May-2008 15:23:17] <nemo_> Error reading value for "memoryAvailableKBytes" on schwansee.nl.imc.local (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.2.0 is bad)
[28-May-2008 15:25:36] <jb> ok
[28-May-2008 15:25:41] <jb> ive downgraded back to 2.1.2
[28-May-2008 15:25:49] <jb> now my portlets aren't working, and I tried re-registering them as well
[28-May-2008 15:27:13] <_pok> Is it impossible to add new properties to an event in an Event Class Transform?
[28-May-2008 15:27:25] <_pok> I can't get it to work
[28-May-2008 15:32:46] <nemo_> _pok, transforms do work, i dont get your terminology tho
[28-May-2008 15:34:29] <nemo_> you cannot add new properties to an event
[28-May-2008 15:34:40] <nemo_> however, you can modify event properties with a transform
[28-May-2008 15:39:53] klaf is now known as afk_away
[28-May-2008 15:52:27] <_pok> nemo_: OK good, then I can stop trying
[28-May-2008 15:54:05] <_pok> nemo_: I was trying to add an evt.subUnitId attribute in the transform for my Event Class with a value from one of the trap params
[28-May-2008 16:01:56] <nemo_> _pok, thats what i think, but it might be worth an email to zenoss or get a response just to be sure
[28-May-2008 16:45:22] <malbon> hola folks,
[28-May-2008 16:45:32] <malbon> can someone help me with a curious zenpack problem.
[28-May-2008 16:45:54] <malbon> I have eggified my HPUX zenpack but the upgrade procedure doesn't work
[28-May-2008 16:46:15] <malbon> how can I forcibly remove all references to the zenpack without using the zenpack command?
[28-May-2008 17:26:49] <twm1010> big bada boom
[28-May-2008 17:30:08] <ckrough> aziz, light
[28-May-2008 17:30:17] <twm1010> multipass!
[28-May-2008 17:30:25] <ckrough> multipass
[28-May-2008 17:30:42] <twm1010> hehehe
[28-May-2008 17:30:53] <ckrough> "multipass" rings in my head, the way she says it
[28-May-2008 17:31:12] <twm1010> Yep... I can hear it perfectly
[28-May-2008 17:31:35] <twm1010> Coorrrrneeeeeeeleeeeoooos
[28-May-2008 17:35:10] <twm1010> welcome back matt
[28-May-2008 17:35:24] <ckrough> welcome back cotter
[28-May-2008 17:40:45] <mrayzenoss> can't get enough of this place
[28-May-2008 17:41:48] <twm1010> would you believe im on a conference call right now listening to the solarwinds guys talk up their product?
[28-May-2008 17:42:57] <ckrough> never seen that one. what's their story
[28-May-2008 17:43:42] <twm1010> well, honestly, im becoming impartial, you see one SNMP monitoring tool ya seen'em all
[28-May-2008 17:43:49] <ckrough> roger
[28-May-2008 17:43:59] <mrayzenoss> a closed-source competitor in the same domain as Zenoss
[28-May-2008 17:44:03] <djs> Must be a really interesting conference call, for you to be in here yacking too.
[28-May-2008 17:44:25] * magnachef has been on that SolarWinds conf call before
[28-May-2008 17:44:43] <twm1010> Their licensing perplexes me slightly...
[28-May-2008 17:45:02] <djs> "Bend over and take it like a man"??
[28-May-2008 17:45:11] <magnachef> heh
[28-May-2008 17:45:14] <djs> Oh wait, that is MS's license scheme.
[28-May-2008 17:45:26] <twm1010> This odd separate of nodes and interfaces...
[28-May-2008 17:46:38] <mrayzenoss> ask if you can have the source
[28-May-2008 17:46:40] <twm1010> The only places I see it really coming out ahead of Zenoss core is the canned reporting, and i would say broader built-in hardware support
[28-May-2008 17:46:56] <twm1010> Everything else is the same stuff
[28-May-2008 17:47:48] <djs> And how much are they wanting for this marginally better software?
[28-May-2008 17:47:55] <mrayzenoss> if you see any good reports, maybe we could them out for the community
[28-May-2008 17:48:24] <djs> mrayzenoss: I think you are missing a verb...
[28-May-2008 17:48:37] <magnachef> I could come up with plenty of reporting suggestions for the Core Zenoss verison
[28-May-2008 17:49:00] <mrayzenoss> djs: me fail english, that unpossible
[28-May-2008 17:49:02] <twm1010> A nice gentlemen let me have his "organizer availability" zenpack
[28-May-2008 17:49:13] <djs> Heh. Just makes it hard to read...
[28-May-2008 17:49:26] <twm1010> which lets you check availability for any organizer, systems, network, locations, etc.
[28-May-2008 17:49:34] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: open tickets, ask for them on the forums and eventually somebody will do them
[28-May-2008 17:49:34] <twm1010> That was nice
[28-May-2008 17:49:45] <magnachef> zenoss-dev? or zenoss-users?
[28-May-2008 17:49:48] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: where'd you get it?
[28-May-2008 17:50:03] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: zenoss-users or perhaps zenoss-zenpacks?
[28-May-2008 17:50:13] <twm1010> A user on the forum e-mailed it to me, his company contracted the Zenoss team to write it
[28-May-2008 17:50:26] <malbon> mrayzenoss: yo!
[28-May-2008 17:50:42] <malbon> mrayzenoss: I have eggified the HPUX Monitor package. Can I send you a svn diff?
[28-May-2008 17:50:47] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: well, I guess I see why he didn't post it on zenoss-users
[28-May-2008 17:50:54] <magnachef> ok, my company is real big on reporting and wants Zenoss to be the reporting system, but I was a bit dissapointed with the canned reports
[28-May-2008 17:51:23] <twm1010> Magna: I see that as a get what you pay for thing... ya know?
[28-May-2008 17:51:27] <mrayzenoss> malbon: go ahead and send it to me, I'll see if I can get Jason to look at it.
[28-May-2008 17:51:37] <malbon> mrayzenoss: cool.
[28-May-2008 17:51:51] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: how's the documentation for custom reports? I haven't reviewed it yet
[28-May-2008 17:52:01] <twm1010> I still haven't cracked the cover on the 2.2 documentation
[28-May-2008 17:52:03] <twm1010> been meaning to
[28-May-2008 17:52:11] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: open lots of tickets, it needs work
[28-May-2008 17:52:12] <magnachef> I totally understand...I was just under the impression there was more of them from the flash demo I watched
[28-May-2008 17:52:29] <twm1010> maybe the flash demo was for "enterprise" ?
[28-May-2008 17:52:35] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: I think there are 10-15 in Core?
[28-May-2008 17:53:18] <magnachef> I actually haven't read much of the custom reports section yet either
[28-May-2008 17:53:30] <magnachef> I only see 7 reports
[28-May-2008 17:53:36] * magnachef is running 2.1.3
[28-May-2008 17:53:49] <twm1010> im on 2.2 sort of
[28-May-2008 17:53:57] <twm1010> i just don't have any core zenpacks yet
[28-May-2008 17:53:58] <magnachef> heh, sort of?
[28-May-2008 17:54:01] <magnachef> ahhh
[28-May-2008 17:54:12] <twm1010> kinda funny, that only the old ones work
[28-May-2008 17:54:32] <magnachef> I'm very afraid to upgrade
[28-May-2008 17:54:41] <twm1010> It fixed more than it broke for me
[28-May-2008 17:54:53] <twm1010> and since I was on the VM appliance, i just backed it up and said DO IT!
[28-May-2008 17:55:20] <magnachef> ahhh, yeah, I haven't used the VM version
[28-May-2008 17:55:46] <twm1010> I was going to build a new one, but I hate going through the little dance where you have to expand the virtual disk size and blah blah blah...
[28-May-2008 17:56:11] <magnachef> mrayzenoss: has the 2.2 documentation been updated for 2.2 specific stuff, or is it just more in depth which would benefit 2.1.x users as well?
[28-May-2008 17:56:13] <jb> ok.. i have a current 2.1.2 install.. I am going to build a new server, and install the 2.2 stack based RPM.. you guys think I will have any trouble importing a zenbackup from 2.1.2 and doing a zenmigrate to 2.2 new install?
[28-May-2008 17:56:34] <mrayzenoss> the 2.2 documentation has new stuff and a lot of cleanups
[28-May-2008 17:56:38] <jb> twm: we use solarwinds on the network side..
[28-May-2008 17:56:55] <twm1010> jb: why not for systems?
[28-May-2008 17:57:39] <jb> because zen is better
[28-May-2008 17:57:52] <ckrough> better for systems or better for both?
[28-May-2008 17:57:53] <twm1010> ok i'll bite... HOW is it better (besides being cheaper)
[28-May-2008 17:57:54] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: if you come across things that are confusing/wrong, please let us know with tickets, or email me and I'll open the tickets
[28-May-2008 17:57:55] <jb> systems
[28-May-2008 17:58:10] <jb> easier to customize I think.. much more flexible
[28-May-2008 17:58:15] <magnachef> mray: will do...thanks
[28-May-2008 17:58:17] <jb> although I haven't messed with the newest solarwinds
[28-May-2008 18:02:24] <twm1010> Well that's odd, my device list only shows two devices
[28-May-2008 18:39:29] <twm1010> crikey! solarwinds wants alot of money for application monitoring :O
[28-May-2008 18:39:42] <djs> How much?
[28-May-2008 18:39:57] <twm1010> base price is 12k, to do stuff that most of zenoss core-zenpacks do
[28-May-2008 18:40:18] <djs> 12k per site, server, ...?
[28-May-2008 18:40:35] <twm1010> its based on your other licensing
[28-May-2008 18:40:48] <twm1010> so that would be on top of the 8k or so just for your standard monitoring
[28-May-2008 18:40:54] <djs> Ouch
[28-May-2008 18:41:06] <twm1010> certainly puts Zenoss Enterprise back on the table
[28-May-2008 18:44:53] <jb> did you get pricing for enterprise?
[28-May-2008 18:47:52] <jb> i just think $100/yr per device is high
[28-May-2008 18:55:13] <magnachef> high yes...but competitive with most other enterprise applications
[28-May-2008 19:39:05] sars-aeol_ is now known as AlexHerron
[28-May-2008 19:39:22] <AlexHerron> hey all... anyone know a way to change the port zensyslog listens to?
[28-May-2008 19:40:26] <twm1010> hrmm... surely it has a config file
[28-May-2008 19:40:59] <AlexHerron> sometimes i wonder why i dont think of things like that
[28-May-2008 19:41:02] <AlexHerron>
[28-May-2008 19:44:17] <AlexHerron> twm1010: thanks
[28-May-2008 19:45:02] <twm1010> found it i take it
[28-May-2008 19:45:48] <AlexHerron> lol that i did
[28-May-2008 19:45:59] <AlexHerron> almost too easy
[28-May-2008 19:46:56] <AlexHerron> any idea why the entire conf file would be commented out by default
[28-May-2008 19:52:36] <twm1010> Perhaps the defaults are usually applicable?
[28-May-2008 19:52:49] <twm1010> Anyone know why my device list would only show 2 out of 175 devices?
[28-May-2008 19:53:57] <AlexHerron>
[28-May-2008 19:54:08] <AlexHerron> what kinda devices? cisco?
[28-May-2008 19:54:35] <AlexHerron> or... whats different about the devices it does recognize?
[28-May-2008 19:56:47] <ezralini> um, about as newbie as a newbie question can be: what's the default login u/p?
[28-May-2008 19:56:56] <ezralini> I just finished my first install
[28-May-2008 19:57:23] <AlexHerron> admin is u
[28-May-2008 19:57:27] <AlexHerron> zenoss is pw
[28-May-2008 19:58:02] <AlexHerron> create your own u/pw in the settings tab on the left... near the bottom
[28-May-2008 19:58:25] <AlexHerron> settings>users>drop down menu> add new user
[28-May-2008 19:58:44] <AlexHerron> type username and email address associated with user
[28-May-2008 19:59:02] <AlexHerron> click on new user to change PW and accessability settings
[28-May-2008 19:59:14] <AlexHerron> word?
[28-May-2008 19:59:16] <ezralini> AlexHerron: thanks
[28-May-2008 19:59:36] <ezralini> IMHO, It should be in the install guide
[28-May-2008 20:00:08] <AlexHerron> its in the admin guide somewhere... but sifting through 200 pages to get a u/pw is a little ridiculous
[28-May-2008 20:00:38] <ezralini> agreed
[28-May-2008 20:00:57] <AlexHerron> good luck...
[28-May-2008 20:34:30] <jb> 15:34:24 (14.2 MB/s) - `zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0.x64.rpm' saved [100182372/100182372]
[28-May-2008 20:34:33] <jb> fast mirror
[28-May-2008 21:11:42] <twm1010> oh crap...
[28-May-2008 21:11:42] <twm1010> :O
[28-May-2008 21:55:59] <ezralini> I'm an experienced sysadmin, first day with Zenoss, I can't seem to figure out how to get it to do a simple http check.
[28-May-2008 22:21:56] <ezralini> I followed all of the steps here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[28-May-2008 22:22:05] <ezralini> and I can't see what the status is of the check
[28-May-2008 22:22:12] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[28-May-2008 22:33:28] <ezralini> adytum-bot: thanks bot!
[28-May-2008 22:33:28] <adytum-bot> ezralini: Error: 'thanks' is not a valid command.
[28-May-2008 22:33:33] <ezralini> yeah yea
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[29-May-2008 06:54:25] <malbon> cd /win 2
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[29-May-2008 10:31:13] <davetoo> gm
[29-May-2008 10:32:25] <nemo> morga ;p
[29-May-2008 12:21:39] <xinity> hy guys
[29-May-2008 12:22:27] <xinity> please anyone know why i have this strange message when i try to install zenoss+zenpack-core rpms ? :
[29-May-2008 12:22:39] <xinity> WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(31771) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED
[29-May-2008 12:31:42] <xinity> surok seems i have
[29-May-2008 12:31:54] <xinity> a strange bug in zrpc module :-
[29-May-2008 12:37:00] <nemo> firewall?
[29-May-2008 12:37:10] <nemo> selinux, etc etc
[29-May-2008 12:40:52] <nemo> ok who was it having problems with perf templates ?
[29-May-2008 12:41:01] <nemo> was it jb perhaps ?
[29-May-2008 12:41:15] <jb> yes
[29-May-2008 12:41:18] <jb> windows perf
[29-May-2008 12:41:40] <jb> im in the process of building a new 2.2 box though, and going to try and import 2.1 data
[29-May-2008 12:43:07] <nemo> ok
[29-May-2008 12:43:14] <nemo> on my side it was user error
[29-May-2008 12:43:20] <nemo> although i read the manual 10 times
[29-May-2008 12:43:33] <nemo> it took my colleugue to point out that i was doing it wrong
[29-May-2008 12:44:02] <jb> what were you doing?
[29-May-2008 12:44:06] <nemo> so goto /devices/server/linux
[29-May-2008 12:44:13] <nemo> click on templates tab
[29-May-2008 12:44:35] <nemo> pull down list ( 2nd one, lower one ) -> bind templates
[29-May-2008 12:44:47] <nemo> and if they are bound they will appear blue in the list
[29-May-2008 12:45:12] <nemo> i was doing something very strange *Thinking* i was binding templates
[29-May-2008 12:45:13] <nemo> wrongly
[29-May-2008 12:45:16] <nemo> my bad !
[29-May-2008 12:46:26] <jb> only device should be bound right?
[29-May-2008 12:47:13] <nemo> well depends what perf templates you want
[29-May-2008 12:47:18] <nemo> i added processes, mysql , etc
[29-May-2008 12:47:36] <nemo> i get an erro when i view perf details but i am gonna restart zenperfsnmp and wait a bit
[29-May-2008 12:47:58] <nemo> zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d DEVICENAME
[29-May-2008 12:48:01] <nemo> to test ...
[29-May-2008 12:49:53] <xinity> nemo: nop a strange bug with my zenoss installation
[29-May-2008 12:50:03] <xinity> rpms are kind of spooky made
[29-May-2008 12:50:44] <xinity> but now i have a little prob
[29-May-2008 12:50:53] <xinity> service zenoss start
[29-May-2008 12:50:54] <xinity> says
[29-May-2008 12:51:04] <xinity> ZenSocket Error: zensocket needs to be run as root or setuid
[29-May-2008 12:51:07] <xinity> how to fix this ?
[29-May-2008 12:51:28] <nemo> you did /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[29-May-2008 12:51:33] <nemo> not service zenoss start
[29-May-2008 12:51:38] <xinity> nop
[29-May-2008 12:51:47] <nemo> i got no idea why , but it happened to me like that first time too
[29-May-2008 12:52:01] <nemo> i removed all , did again , and this time it caught the first boot strap
[29-May-2008 12:52:11] <xinity> removed what ?
[29-May-2008 12:52:13] <nemo> and ran some kind of one time config
[29-May-2008 12:52:14] <xinity> zenoss installation ?
[29-May-2008 12:52:24] <nemo> removed all zenoss rpms , rm -fr /opt/zenoss
[29-May-2008 12:52:38] <xinity> oh ok i see
[29-May-2008 12:52:45] <xinity> let's try then
[29-May-2008 12:58:31] <xinity> /opt/zenoss/bin/install-functions.sh: line 118: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl
[29-May-2008 12:58:36] <xinity> just after a fresh install
[29-May-2008 12:58:41] <xinity> why why why ?
[29-May-2008 12:58:57] <xinity> this is really pulling my legs
[29-May-2008 13:16:10] <jb> erm
[29-May-2008 13:16:16] <jb> you need to setuid zensocket
[29-May-2008 13:16:18] <jb> just like it says
[29-May-2008 13:44:26] <jb> ok
[29-May-2008 13:44:30] <jb> so I have a new 2.2 install
[29-May-2008 13:44:36] <twm1010> you and me both
[29-May-2008 13:44:37] <jb> took the zenbackup from 2.1.2
[29-May-2008 13:44:44] <jb> but it error'd on zenmigrate
[29-May-2008 13:44:54] <jb> everything seems to be working OK though except for the Google/Locatiosn portlet
[29-May-2008 13:45:50] <jb> actually, no
[29-May-2008 13:45:57] <jb> its completely messed up.
[29-May-2008 13:45:57] <jb> grrr
[29-May-2008 13:46:09] <jb> there has to be a WORKING way to uprgade from 2.1.2/3
[29-May-2008 13:46:46] <jb> twm: were you successful?
[29-May-2008 14:02:32] <twm1010> i wasn't doing a migration
[29-May-2008 14:02:36] <twm1010> clear the geocode cache
[29-May-2008 14:02:39] <twm1010> go to locations
[29-May-2008 14:02:47] <twm1010> hit context drop down
[29-May-2008 14:03:59] <twm1010> So if my user interface doesn't come up, which zenoss log should i be checking out
[29-May-2008 14:12:25] <twm1010> ASDF!!!
[29-May-2008 14:12:47] <jb> sec
[29-May-2008 14:17:07] <twm1010> well... I think my plan to just flat out rebuild may be my only option here :|
[29-May-2008 14:19:53] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2008 14:20:02] <jb> which will suck.
[29-May-2008 14:20:53] <nemo> i broke my entire pef system now ;p
[29-May-2008 14:20:55] <nemo> joy ;p
[29-May-2008 14:21:09] <jb> obviously 2.2 has too many problems
[29-May-2008 14:21:12] <twm1010> this is the second time i've had zopectl shit a brick on me
[29-May-2008 14:21:13] <nemo> this is what i get when i check my graphs
[29-May-2008 14:21:13] <nemo> Zenoss Error
[29-May-2008 14:21:13] <nemo> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Please use the form below to submit details of this error to Zenoss, Inc. This information helps us identify and fix issues with the software, though we are unable to respond individually to all submissions.
[29-May-2008 14:21:24] <jb> everyone is having trouble with 2.2
[29-May-2008 14:21:41] <jb> nemo: you probably have some stuff binded that should't be
[29-May-2008 14:21:45] <jb> nemo: you probably have some stuff binded that should't be
[29-May-2008 14:22:50] <twm1010> It did fix a lot of other issues for me...
[29-May-2008 14:23:11] <nemo_> i have apache, device , ethernetcsmacd+64., filesystem , ipservice , java , mysql osprocesses
[29-May-2008 14:23:18] <nemo_> i guess i could thin that down
[29-May-2008 14:32:54] <twm1010> ah ha... fixed
[29-May-2008 14:58:15] <ckrough> anyone have a link to user role management in Enterprise? having trouble finding detailed docs on it
[29-May-2008 14:58:39] <jb> hey twm
[29-May-2008 14:58:48] <jb> you guys monitoring any windows boxes?
[29-May-2008 14:59:15] <jb> im trying to figure out why my old install said like "Microsoft Windows 2003 Enterprise," and my new install just says stuff like "Microsoft Windows 5.2"
[29-May-2008 15:05:21] <twm1010> I am sure...
[29-May-2008 15:08:53] <jb> ok this is just ridiculous
[29-May-2008 15:08:56] <jb> zenmigrate just wont work
[29-May-2008 15:09:00] <jb> and its breaking everything.
[29-May-2008 15:13:42] <twm1010> i am avoiding zenmigrate... i don't want to bring the problems along for the ride...
[29-May-2008 15:14:01] <twm1010> This is good though, the rebuild, its forcing me to log what I'm doing/setting
[29-May-2008 15:14:13] <twm1010> cleaning up my device templates
[29-May-2008 15:14:45] <twm1010> apparently the appliance doesn't even come with core zenpacks installed?
[29-May-2008 15:15:06] <ghettodev> dont think so
[29-May-2008 15:18:46] <jb> you are completely redoing everything?
[29-May-2008 15:19:01] <twm1010> Yes... for the 2nd time
[29-May-2008 15:19:06] <twm1010> 1st time was between 2.0 and 2.1
[29-May-2008 15:19:09] <jb> i guess I might have to
[29-May-2008 15:19:15] <jb> but it will take forever to get it working the same
[29-May-2008 15:19:30] <twm1010> Yes.... lots of settings... all over the f'ing place
[29-May-2008 15:19:33] <jb> how are you adding your devices? each one manually?
[29-May-2008 15:19:34] <twm1010>
[29-May-2008 15:19:43] <twm1010> no... i will use discovery to re-add
[29-May-2008 15:19:57] <twm1010> the majority of them at least
[29-May-2008 15:20:06] <jb> so you just do discovery on a subnet, they get moved to /Discovered, then you move them to their containers?
[29-May-2008 15:20:13] <twm1010> right
[29-May-2008 15:20:16] <jb> ive never even used discovery
[29-May-2008 15:20:22] <jb> you do it from the cli?
[29-May-2008 15:20:24] <twm1010> its nice, if your SNMP is configured on all your stuff
[29-May-2008 15:20:30] <twm1010> no, you go to networks in the UI
[29-May-2008 15:20:40] <twm1010> check a network (might have to create one first)
[29-May-2008 15:20:48] <twm1010> and then hit the context and do a discover
[29-May-2008 15:20:54] <jb> hm where do you specify the snmp com?
[29-May-2008 15:21:21] <twm1010> I'm pretty sure it uses the ones defined on the zProperties of /Devices
[29-May-2008 15:21:49] <twm1010> ya.... zSnmpCommunities
[29-May-2008 15:22:00] <twm1010> i believe those are used for discovery
[29-May-2008 15:22:34] <twm1010> took me only once to realize that "public" shouldn't be there, unless of course i really want to monitor all 95 printers in the building :O
[29-May-2008 15:24:26] <twm1010> mrayzenoss: I did get to reading the 2.2 documentation last night... took me an hour or so to skim it, much better than previous
[29-May-2008 15:25:15] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I'm glad to hear that. I still think it needs work, but it's a little better than before
[29-May-2008 15:26:27] <twm1010> yep, get yourself a bookmark index, and it'll be really good
[29-May-2008 15:26:45] <twm1010> that's a lot of work
[29-May-2008 15:27:21] <mrayzenoss> I actually opened a ticket for that
[29-May-2008 15:28:19] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3226
[29-May-2008 15:28:27] <adytum-bot> Title: #3226 (Admin and Developer's Guide PDFs need Table of Contents) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[29-May-2008 15:28:56] <mrayzenoss> also working on getting the documentation in a more accessible wiki
[29-May-2008 15:29:53] <twm1010> Ok... Jared at Subway just called. I'm due for my weekly anti-fatass meal... back shortly
[29-May-2008 15:37:29] <ckrough> ya
[29-May-2008 15:38:50] <nemo_> ok, too many templates was causing issues indeed
[29-May-2008 15:39:04] <nemo_> with just the device template its fine, but thats not really good for me
[29-May-2008 15:50:10] <krag> hi, anyone know if there's a way to make zenoss information publically available (eg a status page) without requiring users to login?
[29-May-2008 15:50:25] <krag> or if there's a way to query for the database for such information, at a fairly high (say group) level?
[29-May-2008 15:51:18] <nemo_> no i dont know, i heard many ppl ask for that
[29-May-2008 15:51:21] <nemo_> sounds reasonable
[29-May-2008 15:52:19] <mrayzenoss> just a sec krag
[29-May-2008 15:52:29] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/HowToSetupAZenossKioskOrOverviewMonitor/
[29-May-2008 15:52:48] <adytum-bot> Title: How to setup a Zenoss Kiosk or overview monitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[29-May-2008 15:55:45] <krag> cunning, cheers I'll take a look at that. I did search the forum, not the wiki
[29-May-2008 16:30:41] <tripitaka> Hi, I've installed zenoss on rhel5 with the rpm, when I start it I get "ZEO.zrpc:(2062) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED". So I want to remove the software, but guess what, `rpm -e zenoss` gives me "ZEO.zrpc:(2062) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED", and an undending process "zenpack.py --remove ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor" wtf?
[29-May-2008 16:31:12] <jb> MIB location moved in 2.2?
[29-May-2008 16:35:05] <jb> there is no share directory now
[29-May-2008 16:35:09] <jb> im assuming we just make one?
[29-May-2008 16:36:02] <twm1010> no, they moved it, not sure wehre
[29-May-2008 16:37:22] <tripitaka> I would suggest that the document at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ be amended
[29-May-2008 16:37:30] <jb> the docs havent been updated then
[29-May-2008 16:37:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Install on EL5 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[29-May-2008 16:37:39] <jb> heh
[29-May-2008 16:37:40] <jb> grr
[29-May-2008 16:37:41] <tripitaka> 'if you are already running mysql, unset the root password'
[29-May-2008 16:37:53] <tripitaka> it took some digging to find that out
[29-May-2008 16:38:24] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2008 16:40:08] <tripitaka> is there some way to reset the admin user password from mysql?
[29-May-2008 16:42:23] <twm1010> yes... there is a way, can't remember it right now
[29-May-2008 16:43:26] <tripitaka> ok. I've got a whole bunch of mysql databases, which one should I be looking through?
[29-May-2008 16:44:36] <twm1010> hold on, there is an easier way to do this
[29-May-2008 16:44:43] <twm1010> there is a forum or wiki post about this i know it
[29-May-2008 16:46:04] <tripitaka> twm1010: looks like zpasswd.py
[29-May-2008 16:46:07] <tripitaka> thanks
[29-May-2008 16:47:56] <tripitaka> hmm. "Filename is required and should be the name of the file to store the information in (usually "inituser" or "access")." There's no inituser file, any idea what the file would be?
[29-May-2008 16:49:37] <jb> argh
[29-May-2008 16:49:45] <jb> wtf does the stack RPM install in /usr/local and not /opt
[29-May-2008 16:49:54] <jb> why the change?
[29-May-2008 16:52:28] <jb> i wonder if I should use the stack RPM
[29-May-2008 16:52:30] <jb> or the stack .bin
[29-May-2008 16:52:33] <jb> which did you use twm?
[29-May-2008 16:53:35] <twm1010> i use only the VMWare appliance
[29-May-2008 16:54:06] <twm1010> Trying to keep it in the environment it was designed for... thought it seems like the appliance is sometimes an afterthought as far as development goes :|
[29-May-2008 16:54:18] <ghettodev> anyone have any advice on modelling remote access cards? I'm not sure what cevice class they should go into or whether i need to make a new model
[29-May-2008 16:54:30] <twm1010> ghettodev : i didn't add them as device
[29-May-2008 16:54:46] <twm1010> i added them manually as an interface on the server it belongs to
[29-May-2008 16:55:00] <twm1010> that way events get classified under that device, instead of a separate one
[29-May-2008 16:55:08] <jb> does the appliance use /opt or /usr
[29-May-2008 16:55:43] <ghettodev> twm1010: very interesting. will snmp still walk the card?
[29-May-2008 16:55:57] <twm1010> nope
[29-May-2008 16:56:10] <twm1010> it was the only way i could get it to keep things together though
[29-May-2008 16:56:42] <twm1010> on the appliance, everything appears to be installed beneath /home/zenoss/
[29-May-2008 17:03:06] <tripitaka> anyone know how to reset the admin user? I've tried erasing and reinstalling mysql and zenoss, still can't log in with 'admin/admin'
[29-May-2008 17:07:18] <ghettodev> its admin/zenoss i think
[29-May-2008 17:09:43] <tripitaka> ghettodev: thanks. That's another one that could go in the install doc.
[29-May-2008 17:13:56] <ghettodev> took me awhile to find as well
[29-May-2008 17:15:02] <jb> good to know the zenpack doesnt work either
[29-May-2008 17:16:05] <jb> GR
[29-May-2008 17:16:48] <jb> twm, did you have problems with zenhub not stayign started>
[29-May-2008 17:19:09] <jb> ok fixed that.
[29-May-2008 17:20:07] <nemo_> jb: /opt/zenoss/bin/winexe -U "user%pass)" //windowsbox "dir c:"
[29-May-2008 17:20:16] <nemo_> for testing wmi user etc
[29-May-2008 17:21:18] <nemo_> slightly off topic but there ye go
[29-May-2008 17:21:25] <jb> ok
[29-May-2008 17:21:32] <jb> the zencorepack does not work
[29-May-2008 17:21:40] <jb> did anyone here install it?
[29-May-2008 17:22:03] <nemo_> i dont like zenpacks
[29-May-2008 17:22:08] <nemo_> just install packages yourself
[29-May-2008 17:22:50] <nemo_> jb: too many zen* errors will kill which ever daemon in my experience
[29-May-2008 17:23:02] <nemo_> concentrate on reducing errors id say
[29-May-2008 17:23:15] <jb> 2.2 is full of problems.
[29-May-2008 17:23:58] <nemo_> of course, you dont HAVE to run the latest release
[29-May-2008 17:24:03] <nemo_> its like moving to vista
[29-May-2008 17:24:04] <nemo_> ;p
[29-May-2008 17:24:27] <nemo_> i am sticking with what for now
[29-May-2008 17:24:33] <nemo_> and zenoss can do the upgrade for me
[29-May-2008 17:24:41] <nemo_> when that times comes
[29-May-2008 18:44:59] <ckrough> Anyone know which permission would allow ZenUser to create and edit reports?
[29-May-2008 18:45:13] <jb> hey guys, is your software tab populating on linux boxes?
[29-May-2008 18:46:54] <ckrough> no, but I'm not looking for that so haven't pursued it
[29-May-2008 18:47:08] <ckrough> I dont think it does by defaul
[29-May-2008 18:47:09] <ckrough> t
[29-May-2008 18:49:34] <jb> hmm.. what about DNSMonitor in 2.2
[29-May-2008 18:49:39] <jb> anybody using that?
[29-May-2008 19:02:03] <jb> god this is a mess
[29-May-2008 19:19:27] <ckrough> jb: you running on *nix or Windows
[29-May-2008 19:44:40] <troy42> hmm
[29-May-2008 19:49:33] <jb> ckrough: linux..
[29-May-2008 19:49:38] <jb> just working thru some bugs
[29-May-2008 19:49:43] <jb> but im having to rebuild *
[29-May-2008 21:36:11] <MAHerron> hey all
[29-May-2008 21:36:47] <MAHerron> im having a bit of trouble setting zensyslog to gather events
[29-May-2008 21:37:06] <MAHerron> netstat -tuanp |grep 514 output:
[29-May-2008 21:37:08] <MAHerron> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:* 28601/python
[29-May-2008 21:37:23] <MAHerron> does it matter that it doesnt say "LISTEN"
[29-May-2008 21:37:49] <MAHerron> and also, i was able to gather expected logs in the syslog.log when i used the system syslog daemon (sysklogd)
[29-May-2008 21:38:00] <MAHerron> sorry, i'm a noob
[29-May-2008 21:38:18] <MAHerron> and completly lost... feeling like penguins are laughing at me
[29-May-2008 21:38:23] <MAHerron>
[29-May-2008 21:38:40] * kgoedtel laughs
[29-May-2008 21:39:51] <MAHerron> any ideas tho? even if you just want to tell me that it's staring me in the face
[29-May-2008 21:40:00] <MAHerron> anything helps
[29-May-2008 21:42:38] <kgoedtel> i would help but i don't use zensyslog :[
[29-May-2008 21:43:04] <MAHerron> lucky for you
[29-May-2008 21:43:11] <MAHerron> thanks tho
[29-May-2008 21:43:41] <kgoedtel> if it was snmp related i would help you though
[29-May-2008 21:44:57] <MAHerron> im thinking the remote devices are sending it via tcp and zensys listens as udp... but i have no idea if that matters
[29-May-2008 21:45:10] <MAHerron> and yeah... as soon as im lost on snmp im coming to you man
[29-May-2008 22:05:14] <MAHerron> garnica: hi
[29-May-2008 22:05:27] <MAHerron> know anything about zensyslog config
[29-May-2008 22:05:29] <MAHerron> ?
[29-May-2008 22:05:33] <garnica> s up !
[29-May-2008 22:06:06] <MAHerron> im having a lovely newbie problem if you;d care to hear
[29-May-2008 22:06:19] <MAHerron> im having a bit of trouble setting zensyslog to gather events
[29-May-2008 22:06:25] <MAHerron> netstat -tuanp |grep 514 output:
[29-May-2008 22:06:28] <garnica> not much, what would you like to do with zensyslog ?
[29-May-2008 22:06:32] <MAHerron> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:* 28601/python
[29-May-2008 22:06:40] <MAHerron> does it matter that it doesnt say "LISTEN"
[29-May-2008 22:06:47] <MAHerron> and also, i was able to gather expected logs in the syslog.log when i used the system syslog daemon (sysklogd)
[29-May-2008 22:06:55] <MAHerron> sorry, i'm a noob
[29-May-2008 22:06:59] <MAHerron> and completly lost... feeling like penguins are laughing at me
[29-May-2008 22:07:28] <MAHerron> i just need to to log events that come in via port 514
[29-May-2008 22:07:38] <MAHerron> but i just cant get it figured
[29-May-2008 22:08:39] <MAHerron> i just dont know what im missing
[29-May-2008 22:09:36] <garnica> mm I don't know much about syslog....
[29-May-2008 22:09:55] <garnica> are they snmp events ?
[29-May-2008 22:10:19] <MAHerron> nah
[29-May-2008 22:10:42] <MAHerron> like trying to get syslog events tranfered over udp into the zen box
[29-May-2008 22:10:45] <MAHerron> it's aiight
[29-May-2008 22:10:47] <MAHerron> worth a shot
[29-May-2008 22:10:55] <MAHerron> thanks regardless
[29-May-2008 22:11:58] <kgoedtel> do you have another central logging daemon server?
[29-May-2008 22:12:14] <kgoedtel> or is it all going directly to your zenoss host?
[29-May-2008 22:12:21] <MAHerron> nope.. direct to zenoss host
[29-May-2008 22:12:41] <MAHerron> although im debating on setting up a centralized syslog server with syslog-ng
[29-May-2008 22:13:16] <kgoedtel> what version of sysklogd is forwarding the wanted messages?
[29-May-2008 22:13:47] <MAHerron> hm let me check
[29-May-2008 22:20:27] <MAHerron> sorry for the wait it's 1.4.1
[29-May-2008 22:24:56] <garnica> have you checked the firewall settings to allow syslog on port 514 ?
[29-May-2008 22:25:16] <MAHerron> lol im poking around in iptables now
[29-May-2008 22:36:11] <kgoedtel> i was going to ask that too, but didn't want to be mean :]
[29-May-2008 22:37:10] <MAHerron> oh be mean... at this point i may need it
[29-May-2008 22:59:21] <jb> hrm, im having trouble getting a device class to use a custom collection plugin
[29-May-2008 22:59:36] <jb> under "Collection Plugins" it says it is there.. but when you model the device, it doesn't use it
[29-May-2008 22:59:40] <jb> it worked in 2.1.3, this is 2.2
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[30-May-2008 10:08:02] <krag> hi, is anyone using the netapp zenpack with 2.2? It works fine monitoring filers using the 2.1 vmware instance but it's not returning filesystem stats using 2.2 stack install.
[30-May-2008 12:48:25] <magnachef> krag: I'm using the NetApp Filesystem zenpack
[30-May-2008 12:49:07] <magnachef> works pretty nice except for the 2T volumes show up as negatives
[30-May-2008 13:32:59] <krag> magnachef: is that with the most recent version? it works great for us using the vmware instance, but it's not working when installing on a standalone linux box.
[30-May-2008 13:33:18] <magnachef> I'm running 2.1.3
[30-May-2008 13:33:30] <magnachef> with this zenpack: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/netappvolume
[30-May-2008 13:33:47] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPack - NetApp Volume - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[30-May-2008 13:34:40] <magnachef> and I'm using a standalone server, with Centos4 rpm
[30-May-2008 13:35:28] <krag> magnachef: I've just installed 2.1.3 from source on our debian box, having uninstalled 2.2 so hopefully that'll fix it
[30-May-2008 13:36:02] <magnachef> yeah, I'd like to get both the netapp zenpacks workign together, but not sure how that will work out
[30-May-2008 13:36:46] <magnachef> for some reason it creates two different classes, but named the same thing (/Devices/Storage/NetApp
[30-May-2008 13:37:06] <krag> there're are two netapp zenpacks?
[30-May-2008 13:37:11] <magnachef> yeah
[30-May-2008 13:37:20] <magnachef> netapp volume, and sys-netapp
[30-May-2008 13:37:39] <krag> ahhh, I've only used netapp vol, I presume sys-netapp is filer ops/secs etc..?
[30-May-2008 13:37:59] <magnachef> yeah, I had to remove it though due to the issue I just mentioned
[30-May-2008 13:39:18] <krag> ahh. Up until now I've just being using nagios with templates from nagios.org and they monitor both volume and sys ops. They also seem to adjust to changes in volume size (ie you resize the volume, the limit goes up) which I don't think this zenpack does.
[30-May-2008 13:40:26] <magnachef> hmmm...I would hope that it would readjust the total bytes, as it's just reading from SNMP
[30-May-2008 13:40:42] <magnachef> I don't have nagios previously installed, so I can't go down that route
[30-May-2008 14:05:26] <jb> so is anyone here actually using 2.2 and not having issues?
[30-May-2008 14:05:28] <jb> just curious..
[30-May-2008 14:25:24] <krag> just installed zenpack onto 2.1.3 and it works as expected. Can only put it down to being a problem with 2.2.
[30-May-2008 14:25:49] <jb> yeah.. grr 2.2
[30-May-2008 14:26:04] <jb> im messing with it on a new install now, since it completely foobared my 2.1.3 installation
[30-May-2008 14:26:58] <magnachef> krag: did you install both of those Zenpacks, or only the sys-netapp because you have the nagios plugin?
[30-May-2008 14:27:39] <krag> magnachef: only the netapp-volume so far, but that on it's own didn't work with 2.2. I'll be looking at getting sys-netapp working in conjunction with it next.
[30-May-2008 14:41:18] <magnachef> cool...yeah, that's something I'd like to get working as well
[30-May-2008 14:41:24] <magnachef> and good to know it breaks with 2.2
[30-May-2008 15:25:54] <nacer> hi
[30-May-2008 15:34:24] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm trying to run the install script and its blowing up when trying to set up the database, claiming the user or password are incorrect, yet I've verified twice that the zenoss user has the password I'm providing
[30-May-2008 15:35:05] <nemo_> admin zenoss ?
[30-May-2008 15:35:35] <Free_the_Mallocs> the zenoss database user
[30-May-2008 15:39:02] <Free_the_Mallocs> here's the error, although it basically says what I just said: install-functions.sh: line 65: 18922 Segmentation fault mysql -h ${MYSQLHOST} -u ${MYSQLUSER} --port=${MYSQLPORT} -p"${MYSQLPASS}" < /dev/null > /dev/null
[30-May-2008 15:39:03] <Free_the_Mallocs> mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[30-May-2008 15:43:45] <mrayzenoss> which installer and what's the platform?
[30-May-2008 15:43:58] <Free_the_Mallocs> gentoo
[30-May-2008 15:44:10] <Free_the_Mallocs> its the bash install script, checked out from svn yesterday
[30-May-2008 15:50:55] <nacer> what do you think about thaht : Timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running?
[30-May-2008 15:51:34] <mrayzenoss> Free_the_Mallocs: are there community docs for Gentoo somewhere?
[30-May-2008 15:52:37] <Free_the_Mallocs> you mean the Gentoo wiki for installing zenoss?
[30-May-2008 15:52:42] <Free_the_Mallocs> yes, I've been following it
[30-May-2008 15:55:27] <Free_the_Mallocs> however, it matches up with the source install guide on the zenoss site
[30-May-2008 16:05:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> it seems as though the script is creating the user
[30-May-2008 16:05:34] <Free_the_Mallocs> then it blows up
[30-May-2008 16:09:47] <mrayzenoss> sorry I don't have much feedback to give. I don't have access to a Gentoo box myself
[30-May-2008 16:10:26] <Free_the_Mallocs> I can give you access to this one if you'd like to look.
[30-May-2008 16:10:40] <mrayzenoss> not sure it would do much good
[30-May-2008 16:10:51] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm coming to a similar conclusion
[30-May-2008 16:11:04] <mrayzenoss> well, I'd recommend posting on the forums, I know there are Gentoo users
[30-May-2008 16:11:23] <mrayzenoss> perhaps you could get by without our mysql install
[30-May-2008 16:11:24] <mrayzenoss> ?
[30-May-2008 16:11:59] <Free_the_Mallocs> ?
[30-May-2008 16:12:05] <mrayzenoss> sorry, that didn't make sense
[30-May-2008 16:12:09] <mrayzenoss> looking at your error again
[30-May-2008 16:12:29] <mrayzenoss> so this is SVN trunk?
[30-May-2008 16:12:48] <mrayzenoss> and you ran "install.sh"
[30-May-2008 16:12:59] <Free_the_Mallocs> yes
[30-May-2008 16:13:07] <Free_the_Mallocs> as the zenoss users
[30-May-2008 16:13:30] <Free_the_Mallocs> it looks like the script creates the zenoss user in the database correctly
[30-May-2008 16:13:32] <mrayzenoss> post it to zenoss-dev, I'll get someone to look a tit
[30-May-2008 16:13:33] <mrayzenoss> it
[30-May-2008 16:13:37] <Free_the_Mallocs> but for some reason its not logging in as the zenoss user to create the events database
[30-May-2008 16:13:42] <mrayzenoss> that's odd
[30-May-2008 16:15:21] <mrayzenoss> are you srossen?
[30-May-2008 16:15:36] <mrayzenoss> there's a forum post about it yesterday
[30-May-2008 16:15:40] <Free_the_Mallocs> no
[30-May-2008 16:15:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> I haven't posted to the forum about it yet
[30-May-2008 16:16:05] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20667
[30-May-2008 16:16:10] <mrayzenoss> looks like a fix
[30-May-2008 16:16:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Intall failing (at community.zenoss.com)
[30-May-2008 16:16:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> checking
[30-May-2008 16:27:05] <xinity> hope this time my zenoss installation won't fail
[30-May-2008 16:27:21] <Free_the_Mallocs> ok, looks like I got past that point
[30-May-2008 16:27:45] <Free_the_Mallocs> that whole line was scary
[30-May-2008 16:31:05] <mrayzenoss> cool, glad to hear it. Gotta go
[30-May-2008 16:31:26] <Free_the_Mallocs> thanks for your help
[30-May-2008 16:52:45] <xinity> yes !
[30-May-2008 16:52:53] <xinity> new zenoss instance up
[30-May-2008 16:56:06] <xinity> next step , try to restore a zenbackup from another instance
[30-May-2008 17:04:55] <xinity> any clue on why zeoctl takes a long time to start ?
[30-May-2008 17:05:52] <xinity> here is what i have on screen
[30-May-2008 17:05:53] <xinity> [root@visor2 opt]# service zenoss start
[30-May-2008 17:05:55] <xinity> Daemon: zeoctl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[30-May-2008 17:06:25] <locohost> whats going on in the background? ie top/iostat
[30-May-2008 17:08:16] <xinity> argh
[30-May-2008 17:08:19] <xinity> think i have found
[30-May-2008 17:08:32] <xinity> i found this in zeo.log
[30-May-2008 17:09:01] <xinity> CorruptedDataError: Error reading oid 0x0f5f. Found 'U\x03objq\x0bU\x08\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x009\xdbq\x0cQU\x12__primary_parent__q\r' at 20034768
[30-May-2008 17:09:08] <xinity> damned
[30-May-2008 17:09:19] <locohost> does it never start?
[30-May-2008 17:09:54] <xinity> nope
[30-May-2008 17:09:58] <xinity> still trying to start
[30-May-2008 17:10:50] <xinity> let's try to kill and restart
[30-May-2008 17:11:18] <locohost> probably stop, i woudlnt kill if you can help it
[30-May-2008 17:11:26] <locohost> even if it takes 10m or so
[30-May-2008 17:11:52] <locohost> if you kill, i think there will be some....if i remember correctly zek or sec files in your data directory that you will need to delete before restarting
[30-May-2008 17:12:00] <xinity> kill and start seems to fix it
[30-May-2008 17:12:26] <locohost> well, good then
[30-May-2008 17:12:35] <xinity> let's find out
[30-May-2008 17:14:31] <xinity> damned
[30-May-2008 17:14:50] <xinity> same issue as before
[30-May-2008 17:15:06] <xinity> RenderServer File: /tmp/renderserver/graph-390e5f608aacab0491ba395d92b5f5df129600.png not created yet.
[30-May-2008 17:25:39] <xinity> grrrr
[30-May-2008 17:25:52] <xinity> zenoss rpm seems to be crapy in some ways
[30-May-2008 17:30:18] <twm1010> hallo!
[30-May-2008 17:30:33] <magnachef> howdy
[30-May-2008 17:31:22] <twm1010> How goes it
[30-May-2008 17:31:33] <magnachef> it's friday!
[30-May-2008 17:31:39] <xinity> tricky for me
[30-May-2008 17:32:00] <twm1010> Yes Friday... meaning I get to spend the whole weekend doing absolutely nothing...
[30-May-2008 17:32:12] <twm1010> Why tricky xinity?
[30-May-2008 17:33:39] <xinity> twm1010: an old instance has it's zopedb corrupted
[30-May-2008 17:34:40] <twm1010> doh! got a backup?
[30-May-2008 17:35:26] <xinity> twm1010: corrupted
[30-May-2008 17:35:29] <twm1010> doh!!
[30-May-2008 17:35:44] <xinity> i'm trying to extract only the configuration of the instance
[30-May-2008 17:35:52] <twm1010> If it makes you feel better my test suse linux server decided to forget its partition table this morning
[30-May-2008 17:35:55] <xinity> i mean : hosts groups, devices ...
[30-May-2008 17:36:18] <twm1010> Hrmm... does Zenoss package any tools to check/repair?
[30-May-2008 17:36:36] <xinity> twm1010: duno
[30-May-2008 17:36:58] <xinity> twm1010: i've build another instance wich is working great
[30-May-2008 17:37:09] <xinity> twm1010: but trying to extract some informations from the old on
[30-May-2008 17:37:18] <twm1010> right, does it work at all?
[30-May-2008 17:39:38] <xinity> trying right now
[30-May-2008 17:39:46] <xinity> f...... virtual hosts
[30-May-2008 17:40:59] <twm1010> I prefer virtualization myself...
[30-May-2008 17:43:46] <twm1010> Once I get SLES reinstalled and on SP2 i am going to try installing from stack
[30-May-2008 18:00:47] <xinity> ok found what's wrong
[30-May-2008 18:01:04] <xinity> now i need to find how to extract only relevant informations from zenoss db
[30-May-2008 18:09:53] <twm1010> i would think zendmd could help you out there
[30-May-2008 18:10:11] <xinity> i think to , but i'm not a zendmd ruler :-)
[30-May-2008 18:10:16] <twm1010> i seem to remember that zenoss has the ability to spit out information into an XML format
[30-May-2008 18:10:29] <xinity> ah ? interesting
[30-May-2008 18:10:32] <twm1010> or maybe it can read it in?
[30-May-2008 18:10:58] <twm1010> not sure... but I think you could use zenDMD to get the output you want into a text file, and then take that to the new box and reimport it...
[30-May-2008 18:11:32] <twm1010> that would help me greatly in getting to my new instance... I can rediscover my devices easy enough, its the getting all that metadata in that is gonna be manual
[30-May-2008 18:11:38] <twm1010> serial # rack slot, etc.
[30-May-2008 18:11:50] <xinity> i'll take a look in train while i'll be back home
[30-May-2008 18:11:56] <xinity> do you want me to let you know ?
[30-May-2008 18:11:57] <twm1010> i would use zenbackup, but that brings all the settings with it, and that would rbing the problems with it
[30-May-2008 18:12:06] <mrayzenoss> you just want devices?
[30-May-2008 18:12:14] <mrayzenoss> zendevicedump
[30-May-2008 18:12:24] <twm1010> :O!
[30-May-2008 18:13:19] <mrayzenoss> not much about it in the Admin Guide, but it's in Chapter 9
[30-May-2008 18:13:31] <mrayzenoss> zendevicedump and zendeviceload
[30-May-2008 18:13:31] <twm1010> yeah i'm scrambling for that PDF right now
[30-May-2008 18:14:03] <twm1010> fabulous...
[30-May-2008 18:14:10] <twm1010> you have no idea how much time you just saved me
[30-May-2008 18:14:26] <xinity> lol
[30-May-2008 18:14:27] <xinity>
[30-May-2008 18:15:46] <mrayzenoss> glad to be of service
[30-May-2008 18:15:54] <twm1010> ::Salute!::
[30-May-2008 18:15:54] <xinity> crash
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> <object id='Java' module='Products.ZenModel.RRDTemplate' class='RRDTemplate'>
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> Traceback (most recent call last):
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ExportDevices.py", line 113, in ?
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> ex.export()
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ExportDevices.py", line 99, in export
[30-May-2008 18:15:59] <xinity> root.exportXml(buffer,self.options.ignorerels,True)
[30-May-2008 18:16:00] <twm1010> rutroh
[30-May-2008 18:16:01] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 265, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:04] <xinity> self.exportXmlRelationships(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:07] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 305, in exportXmlRelationships
[30-May-2008 18:16:10] <xinity> rel.exportXml(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:12] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ToManyContRelationship.py", line 285, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:16] <xinity> obj.exportXml(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:18] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 265, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:21] <xinity> self.exportXmlRelationships(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:24] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 305, in exportXmlRelationships
[30-May-2008 18:16:27] <xinity> rel.exportXml(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:29] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ToOneRelationship.py", line 195, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:32] <xinity> ofile.write("<toone id='%s' objid='%s'/>\n" % (
[30-May-2008 18:16:35] <xinity> AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute 'getPrimaryId'
[30-May-2008 18:16:37] <xinity> oups sorry
[30-May-2008 18:16:40] <xinity> mrayzenoss: what's the deal with the error message saying too many relationship in the log files ?
[30-May-2008 18:17:06] <mrayzenoss> I don't know, lemme investigate
[30-May-2008 18:17:35] <xinity> zenoss is a really great tool
[30-May-2008 18:17:47] <xinity> it just lack documentations and recovery tools :
[30-May-2008 18:17:48] <xinity>
[30-May-2008 18:17:51] <twm1010> I take it as a challenge
[30-May-2008 18:18:01] <twm1010> You might say I'm addicted to it...
[30-May-2008 18:18:15] <twm1010> I'm fighting for it right now, they want to drop $$ on solarwinds... and i think its a waste of money
[30-May-2008 18:18:30] <xinity> imaho
[30-May-2008 18:18:52] <xinity> there are only 2 supervision system which really worth a try and pay (opensource i mean)
[30-May-2008 18:19:02] <xinity> hyperic and zenoss
[30-May-2008 18:19:08] <twm1010> haven't tried hyperic
[30-May-2008 18:19:27] <twm1010> we have hobbit, nagios, managewise, and opmanager running right now
[30-May-2008 18:19:30] <twm1010> lol
[30-May-2008 18:19:33] <mrayzenoss> the major difference between Hyperic and Zenoss is that Hyperic is agent-based and zenoss is remote-monitoring
[30-May-2008 18:19:43] <xinity> mrayzenoss: that's it
[30-May-2008 18:19:49] <mrayzenoss> Hyperic is Java, Zenoss is Python
[30-May-2008 18:20:04] <twm1010> I'm actually on the Netware/Windows support team, so by using Zenoss I've kinda crossed realms into the territory of our Unix guys
[30-May-2008 18:20:33] <mrayzenoss> xinity: that's not it, there are lots of other things, but the major diff
[30-May-2008 18:20:45] <mrayzenoss> different philosophies of monitoring
[30-May-2008 18:20:49] <xinity> mrayzenoss: that's what i meant
[30-May-2008 18:22:21] <xinity> but that won't solve my problem in anyway
[30-May-2008 18:22:43] <twm1010> There has to be a way to do a consistency check on that DB
[30-May-2008 18:24:33] <mrayzenoss> xinity: I'd post to the forums, I don't know the write way to fix a corrupt DB
[30-May-2008 18:25:04] <xinity> mrayzenoss: do you advise me to send a ticket to support@zenoss.com ?
[30-May-2008 18:26:27] <mrayzenoss> no
[30-May-2008 18:26:33] <mrayzenoss> unless you're a paying customer
[30-May-2008 18:26:44] <xinity> mrayzenoss: what i am :-)
[30-May-2008 18:26:55] <mrayzenoss> you are?
[30-May-2008 18:27:01] <xinity> mrayzenoss: i am
[30-May-2008 18:27:17] <mrayzenoss> definitely then, those guys have probably seen it
[30-May-2008 18:27:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> out of curiosity, what do support contracts for zenoss cost?
[30-May-2008 18:27:56] <twm1010> Depends on # of devices
[30-May-2008 18:27:58] <xinity> mrayzenoss: paid for around 150devices :-) around december last year
[30-May-2008 18:27:59] <twm1010> and level support
[30-May-2008 18:28:12] <twm1010> $100/server sounds bout right
[30-May-2008 18:28:24] <Free_the_Mallocs> $100 per monitored server?
[30-May-2008 18:28:27] <mrayzenoss> Free_the_Mallocs: there are different levels based on your needs
[30-May-2008 18:28:38] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/product/overview#subscriptions
[30-May-2008 18:28:52] <adytum-bot> Title: Overview - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[30-May-2008 18:29:23] <xinity> Free_the_Mallocs: you'll get access to many zenpacks , more advanced documentations and many more things
[30-May-2008 18:29:26] <mrayzenoss> there are discounts for .EDU and XSPs
[30-May-2008 18:29:35] <xinity> Free_the_Mallocs: definitely worth the bill
[30-May-2008 18:29:52] <mrayzenoss> Glad to hear that
[30-May-2008 18:30:26] <mrayzenoss> the Enterprise is going to be moving to 2.2 soon
[30-May-2008 18:30:38] <twm1010> Wait... the subscription gets you the appliance?
[30-May-2008 18:30:39] <xinity> mrayzenoss: june 17th says the support
[30-May-2008 18:30:42] <twm1010> i didnt' know that
[30-May-2008 18:30:45] <xinity> twm1010: :-)
[30-May-2008 18:30:52] <mrayzenoss> xinity: I didn't know if that was final, but yeah
[30-May-2008 18:30:54] <twm1010> I thought it was extra
[30-May-2008 18:30:59] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: No, appliance is extra
[30-May-2008 18:31:37] <xinity> i'm thorn between , rebuilding from scratch or waiting a holly help from the support , which way to go
[30-May-2008 18:32:04] <mrayzenoss> well, if you think getting past your DB issues is your only blocker I'd ask them
[30-May-2008 18:32:35] <xinity> mrayzenoss: to be honest, it's the biggest issue, but i'm not sure if it's the only one
[30-May-2008 18:32:42] <mrayzenoss> email support is unlimited
[30-May-2008 18:32:51] <xinity> mrayzenoss: and more important , why and how this can happen
[30-May-2008 18:33:07] <xinity> mrayzenoss: support yes, but my time not :-)
[30-May-2008 18:34:05] <twm1010> xinity: i'm curious how do you do your backups?
[30-May-2008 18:34:18] <xinity> twm1010: you know what ? i'm cursed
[30-May-2008 18:34:21] <mrayzenoss> xinity: sorry I don't have the answers
[30-May-2008 18:34:36] <xinity> twm1010: i have 3 instances , 2 are testbeds and one is production
[30-May-2008 18:34:46] <xinity> the 2 testbeds are messed up
[30-May-2008 18:34:50] <twm1010> I used Syncsort Backup Express for the enterprise, I was able to get it to script startup/shutdown of zenoss during backup
[30-May-2008 18:35:13] <xinity> and the curse is , on them the cron daily for zenbackup haven't been deployed
[30-May-2008 18:35:22] <twm1010> ahh
[30-May-2008 18:35:23] <xinity> and i don't know why
[30-May-2008 18:36:51] <xinity> anyway , i'll figure this out later, time to cool my mind and think on how and what i should do
[30-May-2008 18:37:09] <twm1010> is the production box similar?
[30-May-2008 18:37:28] <xinity> twm1010: nop hopefully
[30-May-2008 18:37:41] <mrayzenoss> xinity: fire an email off to support while you cool it then
[30-May-2008 18:38:04] <twm1010> good luck
[30-May-2008 18:38:05] <xinity> mrayzenoss: i'll definitely do it :-) whith as much informations as i can
[30-May-2008 18:38:21] <twm1010> zendevicedump sure is beatin the snot out of my zenoss box
[30-May-2008 18:38:34] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: how many devices?
[30-May-2008 18:38:39] <twm1010> ~200
[30-May-2008 18:38:54] <twm1010> i just shut down the other VM on that host server, to give it a little more processor
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[30-May-2008 18:42:05] <jb> whats zendevicedump?
[30-May-2008 18:42:19] <twm1010> a command to export all your devices into an XML file
[30-May-2008 18:42:23] <jb> enterprise is moving to 2.2?
[30-May-2008 18:42:24] <twm1010> oh crap, that ain't good
[30-May-2008 18:42:28] <jb> wow, i hope its been fixed then
[30-May-2008 18:43:02] <mrayzenoss> previous Enterprise releases were a month or so after the Core release
[30-May-2008 18:43:09] <mrayzenoss> so there'll be another Core release as well
[30-May-2008 18:43:12] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.1
[30-May-2008 18:45:16] <twm1010> rutroh
[30-May-2008 18:45:25] <twm1010> i think i crashed my zenoss VM
[30-May-2008 18:45:40] <twm1010> zendevicedump ran it out of memory
[30-May-2008 18:45:41] <twm1010> haha
[30-May-2008 18:46:27] <jb> when can we expect 2.2.1 myray?
[30-May-2008 18:46:33] <jb> mrayzenoss
[30-May-2008 18:47:03] <jb> i just built a new server for 2.2
[30-May-2008 18:47:16] <jb> had a PE2850 laying around..
[30-May-2008 18:47:24] <twm1010> got any more? i could use one
[30-May-2008 18:47:31] <jb> probably
[30-May-2008 18:48:02] <twm1010> milestone says 2.2.1 due 6/11/08
[30-May-2008 18:48:16] <jb> ok good
[30-May-2008 18:48:43] <jb> argh
[30-May-2008 18:48:48] <twm1010> check it: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/roadmap
[30-May-2008 18:48:49] <jb> the forums have been very slow lately
[30-May-2008 18:48:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Roadmap - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[30-May-2008 18:48:58] <jb> i really need to get custom collectin plugins working
[30-May-2008 18:48:59] <jb> and they arent.
[30-May-2008 18:49:16] <mrayzenoss> forums are slow because we moved to a new CoLo and it's been rough
[30-May-2008 18:49:29] <jb> ah
[30-May-2008 18:49:52] <twm1010> doesn't bother me, its 50x better than when i first started doing this
[30-May-2008 18:49:56] <jb> twm, are you using any custom collection plugins?
[30-May-2008 18:50:09] <jb> when I model, the model is just ignoring them
[30-May-2008 18:50:19] <twm1010> i was using an ESX one
[30-May-2008 18:50:29] <ckrough> <cough> You should move to a different hoster</cough>
[30-May-2008 18:50:34] <jb> on 2.2?
[30-May-2008 18:50:54] <twm1010> holy crap
[30-May-2008 18:51:11] <twm1010> giving my Zenoss box an additional 1.5GB ram was like pressing the "turbo" button
[30-May-2008 18:51:27] <ckrough> it loves RAM
[30-May-2008 18:51:36] <mrayzenoss> yeah, especially VMs
[30-May-2008 18:51:43] <twm1010> I mean, I expected an increase, but not this much, wow.
[30-May-2008 18:51:45] <jb> i bumped mine up from 2 to 8GB
[30-May-2008 18:51:50] <ckrough> definitely. VMs love ram all on their own
[30-May-2008 18:52:13] <ckrough> zenoss is disk IO intensive too, which is where VMs tend to choke a lot
[30-May-2008 18:52:56] <ckrough> setting noatime and nodiratime on your $zenhome partition helps as well
[30-May-2008 18:53:15] <twm1010> Where do you set that?
[30-May-2008 18:53:28] <Free_the_Mallocs> /etc/fstab
[30-May-2008 18:53:28] <jb> in /etc/fstab
[30-May-2008 18:53:38] <ckrough> read up on it first
[30-May-2008 18:53:41] <jb> change "default" to "noatime, nodiratime"
[30-May-2008 18:53:48] <jb> for that partition
[30-May-2008 18:53:59] <ckrough> you can also stack them, ie: default,noatime,nodiratime
[30-May-2008 18:54:18] <twm1010> ah.. reduce overhead... smart
[30-May-2008 18:54:58] <ckrough> makes a noticable difference on pollers
[30-May-2008 18:55:54] <ckrough> note that should be "defaults" with an 's'
[30-May-2008 19:00:14] <twm1010> w00t zendump werked
[30-May-2008 19:01:51] <ckrough> how long did it take with 200
[30-May-2008 19:02:02] <twm1010> about 5 minutes... after I gave it sufficient ram
[30-May-2008 19:02:09] <ckrough> at 8GB?
[30-May-2008 19:02:17] <mrayzenoss> later guys
[30-May-2008 19:02:27] <twm1010> 2.5GB RAM
[30-May-2008 19:02:42] <twm1010> Initially it only had 1GB
[30-May-2008 19:03:12] <twm1010> I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner, maybe because my initial appliance usage was for only 30 devices
[30-May-2008 19:03:34] <twm1010> then I expanded to the whole network, it never dawned on me that i was probably beating up the virtual machine
[30-May-2008 19:12:45] <ckrough> anyone know how to specify the timeframe for report graphs?
[30-May-2008 19:12:56] <ckrough> ie; I want to see 1 calendar week
[30-May-2008 19:13:38] <twm1010> well... hold on
[30-May-2008 19:13:50] <twm1010> you should be able to specify an interval up top?
[30-May-2008 19:14:36] <ckrough> yes, but I want to be able to specify: SUN 00:00 through SAT 23:59
[30-May-2008 19:18:11] <twm1010> don't think the canned reports are setup for that
[30-May-2008 19:18:38] <AlexHerron> hey all
[30-May-2008 19:18:43] <twm1010> yo
[30-May-2008 19:18:57] <AlexHerron> anyone set up zenoss to monitor cerent ons?
[30-May-2008 19:19:06] <AlexHerron> twm1010: wassup man
[30-May-2008 19:19:28] <AlexHerron> you get those other 100 devices monitored yet ?
[30-May-2008 19:19:55] <twm1010> I'm still hung up on getting Zenpacks working again
[30-May-2008 19:20:16] <AlexHerron> yeah i abandoned my syslog issue for now
[30-May-2008 19:22:19] <AlexHerron> oops
[30-May-2008 19:22:41] <AlexHerron> so yeah, anyone have experience setting up Cisco Cerent ONS 15454?
[30-May-2008 19:53:21] <locohost> you got the mibs?
[30-May-2008 19:53:22] <locohost> http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs/CERENT-454-MIB/tree.aspx
[30-May-2008 19:53:39] <adytum-bot> Title: ipMonitor :: CERENT-454-MIB: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454 (at support.ipmonitor.com)
[30-May-2008 19:53:57] <locohost> never uses a cerent...although, did some cisco stuff, asa/pix/catalyst/routers
[30-May-2008 19:54:30] <locohost> hmm, that noatime is probably a good idea
[30-May-2008 19:55:52] <locohost> i might just do that myself
[30-May-2008 19:56:18] <locohost> did you notice a significant performance increase with noatime?
[30-May-2008 19:59:20] <ckrough> yes
[30-May-2008 20:00:07] <locohost> just in a vm, or on a physical box?
[30-May-2008 20:00:21] <ckrough> physical box
[30-May-2008 20:00:37] <ckrough> it may depend on the number of devices you are polling
[30-May-2008 20:00:46] <ckrough> and the number of OIDs per device
[30-May-2008 20:00:47] <locohost> 500 ish
[30-May-2008 20:00:52] <ckrough> if it's a high humber it will make a diff
[30-May-2008 20:00:58] <locohost> 5 to 30 oids per device
[30-May-2008 20:01:04] <ckrough> yeah, you'll provbably see an imporovement
[30-May-2008 20:01:35] <locohost> i did that with zimbra before, and it did make a big difference
[30-May-2008 20:02:48] <ckrough> with 500*30 you are writing around 3000 RRDs per minute, that's a lot of atime writes
[30-May-2008 20:03:00] <ckrough> assuming 300s polling that is
[30-May-2008 20:03:21] <locohost> i poll my sevices every 10 milliseconds
[30-May-2008 20:03:26] <locohost> j/k
[30-May-2008 20:03:28] <locohost> yeah, 5m
[30-May-2008 20:04:03] <ckrough> ha, if you could have seen my face just now
[30-May-2008 20:06:01] <ckrough> I havent timed it on that number of devices, but its definitely worth a shot. I've used it in a couple of different scenarios and never recognized any problems from it
[30-May-2008 20:06:48] <locohost> well, even if its a minor improvement, i dont really see any reason not to do it
[30-May-2008 20:08:27] <locohost> sup, ray
[30-May-2008 20:09:21] <mrayzenoss> myello
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[31-May-2008 00:28:37] <johns55> any u guys have trouble in zenosss where u cant scroll?
[31-May-2008 00:28:42] <johns55> or there isnt a scroll bar?
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[31-May-2008 14:08:09] <neorom> hello here
[31-May-2008 14:11:27] <djs26> o/
[31-May-2008 14:12:50] <neorom> I've just installed zenoss with 7 snmp agents
[31-May-2008 14:13:21] <neorom> they have been founded by the discovery network feature
[31-May-2008 14:13:41] <neorom> and now I would like to monitor services on theses hosts
[31-May-2008 14:13:56] <neorom> and I have somme problems with the documentation
[31-May-2008 14:14:26] <neorom> and it does not work
[31-May-2008 14:14:41] <neorom> somebody could help me ?
[31-May-2008 14:14:59] <djs26> Sorry, won't be me. New to all of this myself.
[31-May-2008 14:15:08] <neorom> ok djs26
[31-May-2008 16:08:05] <Moltar> I have a problem with a couple of systems being monitored by zenoss. In the IP Services section, it keeps discovering all of the network interfaces for SMTP, and there is one interface that is on a private network which is unreachable from zenoss.
[31-May-2008 16:08:35] <Moltar> Is there a way to stop zenoss from trying to use the private network IP to attempt to monitor the SMTP service? I'm running version 2.2.0
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[31-May-2008 19:31:30] <kso512> Hi - can anyone tell me what the default login is for the Debian/Ubuntu install...?
[31-May-2008 19:34:32] <kso512> Found it: admin / zenoss
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[01-May-2008 13:31:16] <zenops> I saw a post in the forums about resolving port scan, please search the forums
[01-May-2008 13:31:52] <zenops> Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
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[01-May-2008 15:04:14] <masaghi> hi all
[01-May-2008 15:04:19] <_chris_> hello
[01-May-2008 15:10:34] <idea4gud> hi guys i am trying to monitor Disk space and Memory usage what process parameter should i setup for my windows machine
[01-May-2008 15:11:51] <masaghi> Hi everybody, I need to get an SNMP table and show it on Zenoss. please assist.
[01-May-2008 15:16:34] <idea4gud> magnachef u there?
[01-May-2008 15:17:14] <_chris_> masaghi: maybe this would work better if you described what you have tried so far
[01-May-2008 15:25:32] <masaghi> I want to get list of users logged in a linux server.
[01-May-2008 15:25:49] <masaghi> So I want to use net-snmp to get a defined OID and return the list
[01-May-2008 15:26:06] <masaghi> I don't know better solution. I think I can do this by using command instead of SNMP. but I dont' know how!
[01-May-2008 15:26:20] <masaghi>  could you please help me!
[01-May-2008 15:33:27] <masaghi> is there anyone here helping me?
[01-May-2008 15:35:55] <_chris_> maybe your question is better suited for the forums.
[01-May-2008 15:36:45] <masaghi> thanks a lot for your consideration
[01-May-2008 15:37:34] <masaghi> I have another question: Zenhub daemon on my server stops without any log!!!!
[01-May-2008 15:38:27] <masaghi> It starts at the beginning and stops after a second!
[01-May-2008 15:38:57] <masaghi> It was working fine and now I have this problem with it
[01-May-2008 15:44:06] <mray> masaghi: I think this works: zenhub run -v10
[01-May-2008 15:44:19] <mray> that'll keep it in the foreground with extra debugging
[01-May-2008 15:49:11] <idea4gud> how can i monitor disk and memory space
[01-May-2008 15:51:48] <_chris_> idea4gud: disk and memory information is returned by SNMP agents. if you model a device you should get that information automatically.
[01-May-2008 15:53:13] <idea4gud> i just the enter the device ip adress
[01-May-2008 15:53:30] <idea4gud> do i need to change in perf parameter like in setting
[01-May-2008 15:56:06] <idea4gud> it doesnt get me automaticalluy
[01-May-2008 15:56:18] <idea4gud> also in the status and perf monitor i have localhost
[01-May-2008 15:56:22] <idea4gud> do i have to tht
[01-May-2008 15:56:28] <idea4gud> *change
[01-May-2008 15:58:58] <zenops> Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
[01-May-2008 16:08:36] <malbon> mray: ping
[01-May-2008 16:10:41] <masaghi> here is the log:
[01-May-2008 16:10:43] <masaghi> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 395, in ?
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> z = ZenHub()
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 185, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> ZCmdBase.__init__(self)
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/ZCmdBase.py", line 44, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] <masaghi> self.zeoConnect()
[01-May-2008 16:11:00] <masaghi> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 227, in zeoConnect
[01-May-2008 16:11:02] <masaghi> cache_size=self.options.pcachesize*1024*1024)
[01-May-2008 16:11:04] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 314, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:11:06] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 112, in open
[01-May-2008 16:11:08] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 835, in scan
[01-May-2008 16:11:10] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 121, in install
[01-May-2008 16:11:12] <masaghi> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 630, in fromFile
[01-May-2008 16:11:14] <masaghi> ValueError: corrupted record, oid
[01-May-2008 16:12:13] <mray> masaghi: I'd say put a detailed post on the zenoss-users forum with a good description. Especially if you're using the Beta, someone will get back to you sooner.
[01-May-2008 16:12:17] <mray> malbon: yo
[01-May-2008 16:12:45] <masaghi> thanks
[01-May-2008 16:13:54] <malbon> mray: did you see my email?
[01-May-2008 16:14:33] <mray> malbon: no, was it direct or to a list?
[01-May-2008 16:15:05] <mray> malbon: I gotta go to a meeting, I'll be back
[01-May-2008 16:15:09] <malbon> mray: direct and from my $current_employer
[01-May-2008 16:15:19] <malbon> mray: no prob, ping me when you're back please.
[01-May-2008 16:27:53] <tukulitosakayama> Hi, Zenoss it seems to be a really good application if I refer to comments on the web, but I have installed Zenoss on a server, but is everything except "straight forward" configuration, I can only see some of the devices, but not much information, and even nothing if I talk about my linux servers.
[01-May-2008 16:28:23] <tukulitosakayama> I have installed snmp on all of the servers but no answer.
[01-May-2008 16:28:41] <malbon> the default config file will only allow access from localhost.
[01-May-2008 16:29:04] <malbon> You'll need to edit /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf to allow access from your zenoss server in most distros.
[01-May-2008 16:29:27] <malbon> or if you're using HP gear, point zenoss at the iLO and use it instead (it proxies snmp)
[01-May-2008 16:30:16] <zenops> Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
[01-May-2008 16:30:55] <malbon> zenops: snmpwalk the device, to check the device supports that mib.
[01-May-2008 16:32:04] <maj> is there any howto on monitoring processes on nix box?
[01-May-2008 16:33:11] <malbon> maj: the admin guide is your friend
[01-May-2008 16:33:13] <tukulitosakayama> ok let me check
[01-May-2008 16:33:26] <idea4gud> malbon do we need to on the server snmp.conf
[01-May-2008 16:33:29] <idea4gud> or on the client
[01-May-2008 16:33:41] <malbon> the client which you wish to monitor
[01-May-2008 16:33:52] <idea4gud> also what abt windows macchine
[01-May-2008 16:33:58] <malbon> well actually zenoss is the client, and the endpoint is the server
[01-May-2008 16:34:11] <idea4gud> i have snmp enabled with trap service but still i get no information
[01-May-2008 16:34:14] <malbon> have you got snmp installed on your windows machines?
[01-May-2008 16:34:49] <idea4gud> yeah i have SNMP and SNMP trap enabled
[01-May-2008 16:35:16] <malbon> have you done an snmpwalk from the server that zenoss is running on to make sure that the two can communicate?
[01-May-2008 16:35:30] <idea4gud> yes
[01-May-2008 16:36:09] <malbon> can you define still then? how long have you been waiting?
[01-May-2008 16:37:13] <idea4gud> i did snmpwalk now and it gave huge MIB info
[01-May-2008 16:37:58] <malbon> ok so the profile in zenoss, have you moved it to the /Server/Windows device class?
[01-May-2008 16:38:04] <idea4gud> yes
[01-May-2008 16:38:12] <malbon> and you have re-modelled it?
[01-May-2008 16:38:22] <malbon> (after pushing the changes?)
[01-May-2008 16:38:35] <Dekel> Does anyone know if zenoss (community version) can monitor the traffic of a nfs-server?
[01-May-2008 16:39:14] <zenops> Sure thanks
[01-May-2008 16:40:33] <idea4gud> i am lookin for HD,Memory space and CPU utilization of the device
[01-May-2008 16:40:53] <idea4gud> but i dont get any info
[01-May-2008 16:44:31] <Dekel> someone?
[01-May-2008 16:48:31] <malbon> idea4gud: sounds like you need to remodel the device to me
[01-May-2008 16:49:18] <tukulitosakayama> malbon: I can not find any configuration via IP addresses, only via Domains, but at the moment I'm working only with IP addresses no domains at all, I am trying to install Zenoss so I can monitor everything and then install a DNS server...
[01-May-2008 16:51:06] <idea4gud> malbon: remodel the device to me?
[01-May-2008 16:51:28] <malbon> tukulitosakayama: go to basics, make sure that snmpwalk works
[01-May-2008 16:52:07] <malbon> idea4gud: remodel the device
[01-May-2008 16:52:21] <tukulitosakayama> OK, from Zenoss server
[01-May-2008 16:52:40] <malbon> idea4gud: then wait about 15mins, because RRDtool needs at least 3 readings before it displays any values
[01-May-2008 16:52:48] <malbon> tukulitosakayama: yes, exactly.
[01-May-2008 17:40:01] <tukulitosakayama> does the snmpd.conf on Zenoss box need to have the same config as the other servers, I have Centos 5 on the two sides (to start)
[01-May-2008 17:45:33] <mray> malbon: I don't see an email from you
[01-May-2008 17:45:42] <mray> malbon: but I've got a lot of filters
[01-May-2008 17:47:51] <mray> malbon: oh wait, the Jython stuff?
[01-May-2008 17:48:55] <mray> Dekel: I'm not sure of a good way to monitor the traffic on an NFS system
[01-May-2008 17:50:28] <_chris_> Dekel: how does your NFS provide performance metrics?
[01-May-2008 17:51:21] <_chris_> Dekel: zenoss can run commands, capture their output, and record what is produced.
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] <tukulitosakayama> I'm doing something wrong? is there any document where I can find how to setup snmpd.conf ?
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] <tukulitosakayama> snmpwalk 192.168.2.64
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] <tukulitosakayama> snmpwalk: No securityName specified
[01-May-2008 17:53:58] <_chris_> snmpwalk -c public -v 1 192.168.2.64 .1
[01-May-2008 17:54:27] <_chris_> tukulitosakayama: consult the documentation for your distribution. each distro configures /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf differently.
[01-May-2008 17:54:57] <_chris_> also consult the security settings on your distro. some distros bind the snmpd to 127.0.0.1 and thus remote hosts (e.g. zenoss) can't query them.
[01-May-2008 17:58:15] <Dekel> mray, _chris_, if zenoss only run commands and so it sounds like a nagios-like system
[01-May-2008 17:59:08] <_chris_> Dekel: nagios-style output is one technique for collecting performance information. there are other (e.g. snmp, wmi) techniques as well.
[01-May-2008 17:59:40] <Dekel> zenoss workswith snmp, right?
[01-May-2008 18:00:05] <mray> definitely
[01-May-2008 18:00:07] <malbon> mray: yup, jython goodness
[01-May-2008 18:00:16] <_chris_> yes, zenoss works with snmp. if you read the user's guide you'll get an idea of what zenoss can do
[01-May-2008 18:00:17] <mray> malbon: working on the followup
[01-May-2008 18:00:31] <Dekel> well... my problem is that i have a nfs-server, which serves many computers in my organization
[01-May-2008 18:00:32] <mray> malbon: I was out of town the last week with LinuxFest NW
[01-May-2008 18:01:52] <Dekel> and i'm not sure why, but we have some troubles with this server... and we are not really sure what cause these troubles
[01-May-2008 18:04:21] <_chris_> it might be more productive if you instead described what you know about the server and what you would like to do with zenoss. for example, my NFS server has a perl based API i can call locally to retrieve the number of reads and writes per second. how do i get zenoss to capture that information, graph it, and alert me when the values exceed some range?
[01-May-2008 18:06:04] <mray> malbon: sent
[01-May-2008 18:08:19] <Dekel> _chris_, the problem is that i'm not sure about the ranges...
[01-May-2008 18:08:48] <Dekel> the problems are number of connections, read/writes, memory, swap, user-auth and much more...
[01-May-2008 18:09:06] <_chris_> are you capturing this information in zenoss already?
[01-May-2008 18:09:08] <Dekel> it might also be a problem with the configuration of the server
[01-May-2008 18:09:21] <Dekel> i don't have zenoss yet
[01-May-2008 18:09:35] <malbon> mray: I've heard some rubbish excuses.
(only joking)[01-May-2008 18:09:53] <Dekel> i'm looking for some tool to monitor this server so i can find the problems
[01-May-2008 18:10:19] <_chris_> seems like a good first step is to install zenoss and begin monitoring your NFS server
[01-May-2008 18:12:28] <Dekel> monitoring for what exactly, this is the question...
[01-May-2008 18:12:38] <Dekel> do i need to write all of the tests my self?
[01-May-2008 18:12:54] <_chris_> well ya -
[01-May-2008 18:13:04] <_chris_> we don't have out-of-the-box configurations for every NFS/NAS server out there
[01-May-2008 18:13:09] <Dekel> not the answer i was looking for
[01-May-2008 18:13:12] <_chris_> so if you've got some NFS server
[01-May-2008 18:13:25] <_chris_> and you can programmatically access it's performance information
[01-May-2008 18:13:56] <_chris_> if you'd like some onsite handholding there's always the professional services option ($$)
[01-May-2008 18:14:13] <Dekel> yeah, i know
[01-May-2008 18:14:34] <Dekel> are you familiar with ntop?
[01-May-2008 18:14:42] <_chris_> sure
[01-May-2008 18:17:05] <Dekel> part of what i'm getting from this tool is nfs data monitoring
[01-May-2008 18:17:43] <malbon> mray: so that's basically no then.
[01-May-2008 18:18:09] <Dekel> i was looking for a dedicated nfs monitoring tool
[01-May-2008 18:18:23] <mray> malbon: is there a specific appserver/application you want to monitor?
[01-May-2008 18:18:36] <Dekel> thought that the zenoss had a plugin for that...
[01-May-2008 18:19:02] <mray> Dekel: I'd love to have one too
[01-May-2008 18:19:13] <malbon> mray: yes, Caplin which I already have working with the existing JMX connector, but the connector has too many warts to be useful.
[01-May-2008 18:20:49] <_chris_> Dekel: the platforms open and all the code is available. if zenoss doesn't do something you need you can always develop a zenpack to improve zenoss or you can send in a community contribution
[01-May-2008 18:21:08] <malbon> mray: anyhow I'll respond to the email. catch you later.
[01-May-2008 18:21:19] <mray> malbon: _chris_ will look at it too
[01-May-2008 18:21:57] <mray> Dekel: If you're interested in working on a ZenPack, feel free to email me at mray@zenoss.com
[01-May-2008 18:25:49] <kgoedte1> i just wrote a pass script for net-snmpd to access all the stats via an snmp oid template in zenoss. works great.
[01-May-2008 18:26:21] <_chris_> kgoedte1: cool! we have someone else that did that too and he sweats it!
[01-May-2008 18:26:23] <kgoedte1> provides all the nfs op counters
[01-May-2008 18:29:00] <kgoedte1> also i rewrote the community provided netapp zenpack and made large modifications to the zenoss provided apache zenpack
[01-May-2008 18:29:45] <kgoedte1> but i never repackaged them :[
[01-May-2008 18:35:32] <mray> kgoedte1: If you want to contribute it back, feel free to send it to me at mray@zenoss.com
[01-May-2008 18:36:00] <mray> no rush though, we're busy getting 2.2 out the door
[01-May-2008 18:45:25] <zenops> I am getting this messages: Error reading value for "ifInOctets" on....
[01-May-2008 18:45:45] <_chris_> zenops: the SNMP agent for that device isn't returning that OID.
[01-May-2008 18:45:51] <_chris_> what type of device is it?
[01-May-2008 18:45:58] <zenops> Windows server
[01-May-2008 18:46:02] <zenops> 2003
[01-May-2008 18:46:06] <_chris_> are you running the SNMP Informant?
[01-May-2008 18:46:31] <zenops> and it is running snmp and informant....Let me check again
[01-May-2008 18:47:43] <zenops> yes it is installed..
[01-May-2008 18:48:20] <_chris_> that's strange. are there any other events that complain about interface metrics not being read from the server?
[01-May-2008 18:49:19] <zenops> in the perf tab, I have way too many graphs like 10 but only have of them work
[01-May-2008 18:49:38] <zenops> have = half
[01-May-2008 18:50:36] <zenops> Actually I have 18 graph tables
[01-May-2008 18:51:11] <zenops> and 10 of them are only pulling data
[01-May-2008 19:09:06] <_chris_> __ian__ has arrived!
[01-May-2008 19:09:30] <_chris_> __ian__: any pancakes today for lunch?
[01-May-2008 19:09:50] <__ian__> Sadly, no. Rockin it mac and cheese style.
[01-May-2008 19:22:58] <_chris_> i rocked it mac and cheese style last night. i added some stoufers stuffing and chicken on the side though.
[01-May-2008 19:27:01] <_chris_> __jason__ is here too!
[01-May-2008 19:28:24] <mray> My count puts us at 5 Zenoss employees, if anyone has questions now's the time!
[01-May-2008 19:29:43] <magnachef> sounds good...Is there a way to lock Processes and Services across an entire class or System group?
[01-May-2008 19:31:41] <magnachef> or even add services across a class
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> I'm having weird issues with OS Processes I have a regexp for xinetd. when it originally ran, it found one with name "xinetd" and one with "xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd" randomly today, the "xinetd" process created an alert that "Process not running: xinetd". after doing an SNMP walk, I received the following lines:
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName.25458 = "xinetd"
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunPath.25458 = "xinetd"
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunParameters.25458 = "-stayalive -resuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid".
[01-May-2008 19:36:12] <magnachef> not sure why it's not finding xinetd process
[01-May-2008 19:37:55] <ckrough> dunno, Im sure Mac and Cheese would solve the problem though
[01-May-2008 19:38:05] <magnachef> yeah, already tried that
[01-May-2008 19:48:22] <zenops> I am getting this messages: Error reading value for "ifInOctets" ifouterror, ifhcoutoctets, ifoperstatus..etc...
[01-May-2008 19:48:49] <zenops> the device is a cisco switch cat3750
[01-May-2008 19:49:11] <_chris_> zenops: the snmp agent on your switch isn't returning those OIDs for some reason
[01-May-2008 19:49:26] <_chris_> maybe you need to login to the console and give the switch permission to return those values?
[01-May-2008 19:52:05] <zenops> it has already been done
[01-May-2008 19:53:57] <zenops> Thet were working fine until loaded all the mibs at once using *.* I have done it before with no problem..
[01-May-2008 19:55:03] <zenops> How do I troubleshoot to have these oIDs to be read..
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[02-May-2008 07:37:33] <Xander7> Hehe, got a funny alert from Zenoss: bear /cdrom/sol-10-u5-ga-sparc threshold of Free Space 90 Percent exceeded
[02-May-2008 13:16:15] <zenops> I am having this errors: Error reading value for "ifHCOutUcastPkts" on NPIF475F9 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.11 is bad)
[02-May-2008 13:16:34] <zenops> eventClass /Perf/Snmp
[02-May-2008 13:16:47] <zenops> can anyone decipher this one
[02-May-2008 14:10:13] <zenops> I am having this errors: Error reading value for "ifHCOutUcastPkts" on NPIF475F9 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.11 is bad)
[02-May-2008 14:10:26] <zenops> eventClass /Perf/Snmp
[02-May-2008 14:10:29] <zenops> can anyone decipher this one
[02-May-2008 14:13:40] <MrTux> zenops: well, your device is not returning a value for that oid
[02-May-2008 14:55:27] <magnachef> is there a way that I can have development servers and production servers in zenoss, but have separate event console views so that Dev doesn't show up in the prodcution list?
[02-May-2008 15:08:59] <garnica> how about using the dashboard so you can have an object watch list, one for production and one for development ??
[02-May-2008 15:10:13] <magnachef> but wouldn't (in essence) that take away the event console functionality?
[02-May-2008 15:11:09] <magnachef> i know that you can specify whether a device is production, test, etc
[02-May-2008 15:11:29] <magnachef> seems like it should be trivial to have an event console that can filter on that
[02-May-2008 15:12:14] <garnica> actually the event console can filter production or development ....
[02-May-2008 15:12:53] <garnica> how about creating to classes--- development and production ... so when you are in the event console you can
[02-May-2008 15:13:17] <garnica> see clearly if it comes from production servers or development servers
[02-May-2008 15:13:44] <magnachef> how do I filter between prod and dev in the console?
[02-May-2008 15:14:17] <garnica> you click in the top ... it says " eventClass" and you can filter them
[02-May-2008 15:14:43] <garnica> works the same for "device", "component", "eventClass" , etc. etc.
[02-May-2008 15:14:51] <magnachef> eventClass has a correlation of dev or production?
[02-May-2008 15:15:06] <magnachef> my eventClass has /Status/IpService, etc
[02-May-2008 15:15:15] <garnica> nop... you have to create a class for each one..
[02-May-2008 15:15:29] <garnica> and then map your events to the classes tou create
[02-May-2008 15:15:35] <garnica> so you can classify them...
[02-May-2008 15:16:09] <garnica> for example... go to the "groups" option in the left panel...
[02-May-2008 15:16:28] <magnachef> ok
[02-May-2008 15:16:37] <magnachef> and create dev and prod in there
[02-May-2008 15:16:52] <garnica> you can see sub-groups.. click on the small triangle to add a New Organizer
[02-May-2008 15:16:56] <garnica> yep
[02-May-2008 15:17:15] <magnachef> yeah, I've set up groups under the Systems
[02-May-2008 15:17:28] <magnachef> not sure what the Groups section was for
[02-May-2008 15:17:53] <garnica> once you have both... you could and n - subgroups to each one... say " linux server " or "windonws server "
[02-May-2008 15:17:53] <magnachef> I see what you're saying though
[02-May-2008 15:18:22] <garnica> once you have such goups....you can add devices to each group
[02-May-2008 15:18:37] <magnachef> I was just hoping that I could use the data that already exists about each server
[02-May-2008 15:18:53] <magnachef> can I do the same for "Systems"?
[02-May-2008 15:19:03] <magnachef> instead of using "Groups"
[02-May-2008 15:19:45] <garnica> yep.... it is a matter of trying
[02-May-2008 15:20:16] <garnica> works the same if you create event classes
[02-May-2008 15:20:25] <garnica> you go to events in the left panel
[02-May-2008 15:20:35] <garnica> then you can see a list of sub-classes
[02-May-2008 15:21:03] <garnica> then you may create "development" and "production" the same was
[02-May-2008 15:21:08] <garnica> way
[02-May-2008 15:21:36] <garnica> and finally you map these event classes with the events you see in the event console list
[02-May-2008 15:25:34] <garnica> in my case the dashboard makes it all right because gives me a summary of events of each group in a view
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> hi everybody
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> I need a help.
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> Is there anybody here to help me to get an SNMP table read to ZENOSS and show it in the frontend?
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> I need this to get a private MIB table rows and show them in Zenoss.
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] <masaghi> Please tutor me!
[02-May-2008 16:00:54] <garnica> masaghi.... I don't fully understand your question.... are you monitoring any device in Zenoss ?
[02-May-2008 16:14:34] <masaghi> I extended net-snmp to support a private MIB table that gives some information from a linux server.
[02-May-2008 16:14:41] <masaghi> Now I need to get this MIB table and show it in Zenoss
[02-May-2008 16:14:48] <masaghi> I don't know what I shoud to do
[02-May-2008 16:15:17] <masaghi> garnica: please help me
[02-May-2008 16:21:45] <garnica> masaghi: ok... calm down.... from the left panel of the Zenoss server click on "device List"... is there any item on the list ??
[02-May-2008 16:24:33] <masaghi> yes
[02-May-2008 16:31:48] <garnica> masaghi: click on any of the devices in the device list.... this will be the target for an SNMP Request
[02-May-2008 16:33:21] <garnica> masaghi:you should see the "Status" tab of the device
[02-May-2008 18:14:21] <garnica> ok.... I am monitoring 15 devices on a zenoss server... say xxx.xxx.xxx.20 and I have a second zenoss server say xxx.xxx.xxx.55 . What would you do to receive all trap messages in 55 when they are received in 20 ??
[02-May-2008 18:15:03] <garnica> without making any changes in the 15 devices being monitored ?
[02-May-2008 18:17:02] <magnachef> so traps are going from .55 to .20?
[02-May-2008 18:17:43] <garnica> so traps can be going from .20 to .55
[02-May-2008 18:18:31] <magnachef> you can send the traps to both
[02-May-2008 18:18:52] <magnachef> just set that up in your config
[02-May-2008 18:19:32] <magnachef> that way both (theorhetically) will get the same/all traps
[02-May-2008 18:20:02] <garnica> yep... that would involve modifying the 15 devs being monitored wich are located somewhat far
[02-May-2008 18:20:33] <magnachef> you could setup a trap proxy
[02-May-2008 18:20:58] <magnachef> so they'd all send to the proxy on .20 and have it send to both systems
[02-May-2008 18:21:00] <garnica> I was wondering.... is not there a way to enroute traps in xxx.20 to xxx.50 too ?
[02-May-2008 18:21:17] <garnica> ok
[02-May-2008 18:21:22] <garnica> sounds good
[02-May-2008 18:21:52] <garnica> so I should set up a proxy in .20
[02-May-2008 18:24:28] <magnachef> yeah
[02-May-2008 18:28:12] <garnica> thanks ! I will dive on deploying that proxy...
[02-May-2008 18:29:38] <magnachef> np
[02-May-2008 18:32:49] <locohost> forwarding traps is one of the primary functions of snmptrapd
[02-May-2008 18:42:40] <magnachef> ping npmcallum
[02-May-2008 18:49:57] <ckrough> Is it easy to generate a custom report that includes all devices and their management IP in the web interface, or would that have to be done in TALES?
[02-May-2008 18:50:39] <cgibbons> tada
[02-May-2008 18:50:45] <garnica> ok thanks locohost ! trying it !
[02-May-2008 19:05:54] <locohost> probably use the net-snmp room if you need help, i dont remember the syntax, something like traphandle 1.3 <ip)
[02-May-2008 19:10:26] <magnachef> where's the setting for what time I kick off zenmodler?
[02-May-2008 19:10:54] <magnachef> I know it's every 6 hours by default, but it's been running during the day and slowing down the system
[02-May-2008 19:11:20] <_chris__> magnachef: i believe it's based on when you started up zenmodeler
[02-May-2008 19:11:25] <_chris__> it's +6 hours from that time
[02-May-2008 19:11:28] <_chris__> we don't run it out of cron
[02-May-2008 19:11:59] <magnachef> how can I increase that to 24 hours?
[02-May-2008 19:12:10] <magnachef> do I need to change the cycletime in the config?
[02-May-2008 19:12:46] <magnachef> so I'm looking at the daemons tab under /About/zenossInfo
[02-May-2008 19:13:07] <magnachef> there's an edit config option, but it's blank, and I'm not sure what goes there
[02-May-2008 19:16:21] <magnachef> any thoughts?
[02-May-2008 19:21:39] <magnachef> also...trying to restart zenmodeler via the webpage does not actually restart the process
[02-May-2008 19:22:30] <_chris__> set cycletime in your ${ZENHOME}/etc/zenmodeler.conf
[02-May-2008 19:22:44] <_chris__> it's in minutes so set it to be 24 * 60
[02-May-2008 19:23:53] <magnachef> ok...currently that file is empty
[02-May-2008 19:24:11] <_chris__> yes - so it's using the default, which is 6 hours
[02-May-2008 19:24:58] <magnachef> so I just put in: --cycletime=1440
[02-May-2008 19:25:03] <_chris__> no
[02-May-2008 19:25:04] <_chris__> put in
[02-May-2008 19:25:06] <_chris__> cycletime 1440
[02-May-2008 19:25:14] <magnachef> gotcha
[02-May-2008 19:25:24] <cgibbons> that's the same file that gets changed if you did the edit config from the gui, magnachef
[02-May-2008 19:26:12] <magnachef> cool...thanks
[02-May-2008 19:54:16] <magnachef> what's the default number of devices zenmodeler collects in paralell?
[02-May-2008 20:11:29] <magnachef> has anyone experienced serious lag or timeout when clicking on a device's "Edit" tab?
[02-May-2008 20:11:43] <magnachef> all the other tabs work fine (OS, Hardware, etc)
[02-May-2008 22:00:14] <malbon> _chris__: ping, are you there?
[02-May-2008 22:00:28] <_chris__> ya
[02-May-2008 22:00:31] <_chris__> i'm heading out though
[02-May-2008 22:00:59] <malbon> no prob, I'll catch you another time. enjoy your weekend.
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[03-May-2008 03:37:25] <blurryrunner> so i'm trying to adjust the connection settings for zeo for a new install and they get over written in the initial start up process
[03-May-2008 03:37:39] <blurryrunner> what is the correct way to adjust those connection settings
[03-May-2008 03:37:41] <blurryrunner> ?
[03-May-2008 03:38:17] <blurryrunner> in my deployment environment i can't bind to localhost:8100
[03-May-2008 03:39:01] <blurryrunner> so i want to use a unix socket for the connection
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[03-May-2008 04:26:04] <blurryrunner> so if anyone is interested, you have to edit /opt/zenoss/skel/etc/zenoss.conf
[03-May-2008 04:26:37] <blurryrunner> i was editing /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf and it was alway getting overwritten
[03-May-2008 10:58:27] <malbon> 4
[03-May-2008 10:58:32] <malbon> doh!
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[04-May-2008 22:10:59] <gawd> Hey!
[04-May-2008 22:12:43] <gawd> I tried adding a field in a custom schema, it pops up a "Property Added" but nothing happens (name: cWebserverVersion)
[04-May-2008 22:12:46] <gawd> any ideas?
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[05-May-2008 06:29:14] <abumo> hi
[05-May-2008 06:29:51] <abumo> i need some support on the vmware appliance version and remote access to the webpage
[05-May-2008 09:09:34] <Nemie> I have problem every time I try starting zenoss, mostly I'm confused why I dont have /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl and /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[05-May-2008 09:11:50] <Nemie> http://pastebin.com/d5b8347cf
[05-May-2008 09:12:01] <Nemie> That's how it looks like every time I try to start
[05-May-2008 10:51:43] <Nemie> nothing?
[05-May-2008 11:51:15] <zenops> can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 13:12:42] <zenops> can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 13:12:56] <Nemie> spam
[05-May-2008 13:12:57] <Nemie>
[05-May-2008 13:13:32] <nemo_> check the forums ?
[05-May-2008 13:13:32] <Bulwinkle> zenops: in the interface template
[05-May-2008 13:13:48] <Nemie> anyone got an idea about my problem?
[05-May-2008 13:14:04] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: restate it?
[05-May-2008 13:14:12] <Nemie> 11:09:33 : Nemie: I have problem every time I try starting zenoss, mostly I'm confused why I dont have /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl and /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[05-May-2008 13:14:15] <Nemie> 11:11:50 : Nemie: http://pastebin.com/d5b8347cf
[05-May-2008 13:14:18] <Nemie> 11:12:01 : Nemie: That's how it looks like every time I try to start
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[05-May-2008 13:15:25] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: new install?
[05-May-2008 13:15:49] <Nemie> Bulwinkle: installed it 3 times on Fedora 8 and 2 times on CentOS 5
[05-May-2008 13:16:03] <nemo_> Nemie, i told you last week
[05-May-2008 13:16:03] <Nemie> always the same problem
[05-May-2008 13:16:08] <nemo_> the post install step didnt work
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> if you see:
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> #
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> #
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] <nemo_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[05-May-2008 13:16:19] <nemo_> zope is not installed / running right
[05-May-2008 13:16:31] <Nemie> but what the hell is zope?
[05-May-2008 13:16:40] <MrTux> the appserver behind
[05-May-2008 13:16:42] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: it is the framework that zenoss runs on
[05-May-2008 13:16:48] <Nemie> if it's something zenoss needs, shouldn't it come with the source?
[05-May-2008 13:16:56] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: it does
[05-May-2008 13:17:01] <Nemie> well apparently not
[05-May-2008 13:17:08] <nemo_> seriously, fuck keep explaining this stuff, i will just stay quiet , but dont expect help if you cant learn
[05-May-2008 13:17:15] <Nemie> ...
[05-May-2008 13:17:37] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: it does, trust me, it just isnt installing. how are you installing, from source or RPMS?
[05-May-2008 13:17:43] <Nemie> RPM
[05-May-2008 13:17:57] <Nemie> on fedora from source
[05-May-2008 13:18:01] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: where are you getting the RPMs from?
[05-May-2008 13:18:21] <Bulwinkle> nemo_: seems futile doesn't it?
[05-May-2008 13:18:29] <nemo_> ever so slightly
[05-May-2008 13:18:33] <nemo_> wtf is zope, duh
[05-May-2008 13:18:37] <Nemie> http://www.zenoss.com/download/form
[05-May-2008 13:18:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Which Zenoss is right for you? - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2008 13:19:39] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: that doen't tell me anything....
[05-May-2008 13:19:50] <Bulwinkle> Nemie: what monitoring system are you using now?
[05-May-2008 13:19:58] <Nemie> but it seems that might be better that I leave, so I don't make you more angry... I shall try to figure it out... sorry to boher you
[05-May-2008 13:20:23] <Bulwinkle> nemo_: dude, awesome!
[05-May-2008 13:20:44] <Bulwinkle> who else can you get rid of?
[05-May-2008 13:20:55] <nemo_> well i am sorry irc isnt there for me to do your job
[05-May-2008 13:21:01] <nemo_> its about sharing knowledge
[05-May-2008 13:21:06] <Bulwinkle> hahah
[05-May-2008 13:21:17] <Bulwinkle> come on, do my job too
[05-May-2008 13:21:19] <nemo_> ppl sit here and ask us to work out there problems
[05-May-2008 13:21:41] <nemo_> anyway i didnt kick him ;P
[05-May-2008 13:21:53] <nemo_> i said id be quiet but he wouldnt get help from me
[05-May-2008 13:22:01] <nemo_> if you guys wanna waste your lives, go ahead ;P
[05-May-2008 13:22:09] <nemo_> enopugh said anyhoo ;-0
[05-May-2008 13:46:01] <likuidkewl> Has anyone else dealt with this error before?
[05-May-2008 13:46:01] <likuidkewl> 1033, "Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'"
[05-May-2008 13:46:49] <likuidkewl> This is happening when we changed the innod database to off in the Mysql settings I think.
[05-May-2008 14:48:32] <MrTux> i' having some problem with zenping, is says all devices are down, and on debug i can see unexpected packets..
[05-May-2008 14:49:03] <MrTux> i've digged some further and found out, that the hosts are not added to the joblist, does somebody now this phenomena
[05-May-2008 15:05:11] <zenops> can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 16:04:43] <Bulwinkle> zenops: quit asking the same question and look in to some of the answers people give you
[05-May-2008 16:06:49] <Bulwinkle> that threshold is set on the interface templates... look it to it
[05-May-2008 16:14:01] <Bulwinkle> zenops: did you find it?
[05-May-2008 16:30:06] <twm1010> Can anyone explain how dependencies work in Zenoss?
[05-May-2008 17:16:28] <garnica> ok.... I am writing some scripts to retrieve devices useful information using wget.... the question is.... where can I check wich methods exist for device d ?? say d.id, d.manageIp, d.x what else ?
[05-May-2008 17:30:33] * magnachef has been looking for some docs on existing methods as well
[05-May-2008 17:45:05] <twm1010> hows it goin chef
[05-May-2008 17:46:26] <magnachef> not too shabby...you?
[05-May-2008 17:46:48] <twm1010> ah... taking this week off my zenoss development to compare it to some relatively inexpensive solutions
[05-May-2008 17:47:01] <twm1010> opmanager, whatsup, orion, etc.
[05-May-2008 17:47:29] <magnachef> nice
[05-May-2008 17:47:42] <magnachef> always a good time
[05-May-2008 17:47:55] <twm1010> I'm not seeing Zenoss put a good fight so far, the only area its winning in is price.
[05-May-2008 17:48:07] <twm1010> but if you factor in labor then it loses that one too :|
[05-May-2008 17:49:17] <magnachef> ahhh...It seems to be doing pretty well in my environment so far
[05-May-2008 17:49:38] <twm1010> My only miffs, really, are the lack of a clear setup of dependencies
[05-May-2008 17:49:54] <magnachef> If there were some more indepth documentation, and best practices, etc, then I'd be all set
[05-May-2008 17:49:55] <twm1010> and that the canned reports are too broad, and not enough of them
[05-May-2008 17:51:18] <magnachef> yeah, I'm talking with Zenoss sales guys today to see what I get with the Enterprise edition over the Free version
[05-May-2008 17:52:09] <twm1010> Seems overpriced to me, honestly.
[05-May-2008 17:57:21] <magnachef> I guess I'll find out :-)
[05-May-2008 17:57:43] <magnachef> well, if you look at products like Netcool, etc, it's decent in price
[05-May-2008 18:00:28] <magnachef> I do like the fact that it's an open framework
[05-May-2008 18:01:27] <twm1010> yes, i do appreciate that for sure
[05-May-2008 18:03:54] <_chris_> twm1010: what's unclear about the dependencies?
[05-May-2008 18:04:04] <_chris_> the fact that we have them?
[05-May-2008 18:04:07] <twm1010> well. how do you set them up?
[05-May-2008 18:04:20] <twm1010> I don't undestand the relationships, and how they interact with alerting.
[05-May-2008 18:04:23] <_chris_> are you talking about the package dependencies that zenoss has?
[05-May-2008 18:04:31] <twm1010> no, logical ones between the devices
[05-May-2008 18:04:32] <_chris_> the rpm deps?
[05-May-2008 18:04:37] <_chris_> oh ok
[05-May-2008 18:04:40] <twm1010> say i got 5 servers behind a router at a remote site...
[05-May-2008 18:04:47] <twm1010> router goes down, i get 6 notifications when i only need one
[05-May-2008 18:04:49] <_chris_> right
[05-May-2008 18:04:58] <_chris_> that shouldn't happen if the route tables are known
[05-May-2008 18:05:09] <_chris_> check the OS tab for the router and see if the networks are known
[05-May-2008 18:05:47] <twm1010> So it's supposed to be automatic, for the layer 3?
[05-May-2008 18:06:07] <_chris_> yes - for layer 3 i believe it's automatic
[05-May-2008 18:08:17] <twm1010> i guess i've never seen it do that
[05-May-2008 18:08:35] <twm1010> i definitely know that my OS tabs for the routers are well filled out.
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[05-May-2008 20:23:17] <cgibbons> grrr
[05-May-2008 21:43:13] <garnica> Wich python file I should check to find the existing methods of a device object....say d.id, d.manageIp, d.x what else ??
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[06-May-2008 11:54:20] <zenops> what does this means: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded? and how do I adjust it?
[06-May-2008 12:19:41] <zenops> what does this means: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded? and how do I adjust it?
[06-May-2008 12:21:47] <MrTux> zenops: this means it took to much time to complete the cycle. please go and read the documentation, and stop asking the same question multiple times
[06-May-2008 12:42:27] <Bulwinkle> MrTux: I've pointed out that there is excellent documentation several times to zenops
[06-May-2008 12:44:08] <MrTux> Bulwinkle: well, i won't call it excellent, but for his problems its sufficient..
[06-May-2008 12:44:19] <zenops> Why do people come into this channel and because they know something they get to tell off others...this a comunities, and you are not forced to answer...if you do not like the question...step aside please..I am trying to get my job done...do not get in the way of someone trying to learn.......
[06-May-2008 12:45:01] <zenops> This channels are an excellent learning tool...
[06-May-2008 12:45:03] <MrTux> zenops: well, a community has some rules, and in it communities the first rule is RTFM, read the fucking manual...
[06-May-2008 12:45:09] <zenops> do not spoil it for others..
[06-May-2008 12:45:20] <MrTux> zenops: if you don't like the rules, buy the support and have your own rules.
[06-May-2008 12:45:21] <Bulwinkle> zenops: you constantly ask the same question and ignore answers that are given to you in the channel
[06-May-2008 12:45:27] <zenops> As i sais ...step aside...
[06-May-2008 12:45:52] <zenops> is you Bullwinkle again...why don't you tel me off again...
[06-May-2008 12:46:11] <zenops> please guys really..
[06-May-2008 12:46:26] <zenops> lets be a grown up about this..
[06-May-2008 12:46:38] <MrTux> ok, you'll get on the ignore list, and won't get help on more complicated problems, your choice
[06-May-2008 12:46:44] <zenops> if you do not like the question,,,,,,just ignore it
[06-May-2008 12:46:47] * nemo_ stays quiet , but yall know what i think
[06-May-2008 12:47:03] <MrTux> nemo_: don't feed the trolls, your right
[06-May-2008 12:47:18] <zenops> thanks for staying on the side..
[06-May-2008 12:47:22] <zenops> thank you
[06-May-2008 12:47:36] <zenops> that works for me
[06-May-2008 12:48:24] <Bulwinkle> zenops: you've made it to my ignore list too, congrats
[06-May-2008 12:48:33] <zenops> thank you...
[06-May-2008 12:49:11] <zenops> What a great way to deal with new Zenoss customers, I think I wil have a talk with themm
[06-May-2008 12:49:18] <zenops> 'thank you
[06-May-2008 12:49:23] <Bulwinkle> his chances for getting any help is getting less and less since anyone with any knowledge in here is /ignoring him now
[06-May-2008 12:50:36] <zenops> luckily, people like you are very hard to come by
[06-May-2008 12:51:26] <nemo_> ok i agreed to stfu about my opinions
maybe you can too , back to zenoss chat ? [06-May-2008 12:51:29] <zenops> I could use my Zenoss support but I have chosen to use this channel, unless you tell me you own this channel
[06-May-2008 12:51:41] <zenops> thank you again\
[06-May-2008 12:51:51] <zenops> I have a question
[06-May-2008 15:28:51] <CrackZmoQ> i'm getting this error when trying to start zenoss, "3: Can't open /home/zenoss/.profile"
[06-May-2008 15:29:43] <CrackZmoQ> i have never run into this before and i don't normally admin this machine but symlinking it to a .bashrc doesn't help because then i get other errors
[06-May-2008 15:30:03] <CrackZmoQ> like, "13: shopt: not found"
[06-May-2008 15:30:12] <CrackZmoQ> and "/etc/bash_completion: 44: Syntax error: Bad substitution"
[06-May-2008 15:30:51] <CrackZmoQ> search results from google for these are not returning as i'd hoped
[06-May-2008 15:30:57] <CrackZmoQ> has anyone seen this before?
[06-May-2008 15:31:18] <CrackZmoQ> this service seems to have died on April 30th
[06-May-2008 15:39:07] <nemo_> [zenoss@monitor04 ~]$ cat .profile*
[06-May-2008 15:39:07] <nemo_> cat: .profile*: No such file or directory
[06-May-2008 15:39:35] <nemo_> so thats not so strange
[06-May-2008 15:40:02] <nemo_> su - zenoss ; zenoss status might be a good place to start
[06-May-2008 15:42:39] <CrackZmoQ> Daemon: zenstatus program running;
[06-May-2008 15:42:46] <CrackZmoQ> everything else is not running
[06-May-2008 15:43:10] <CrackZmoQ> meh
[06-May-2008 15:43:20] <CrackZmoQ> zenoss stop and zenoss start works well enough
[06-May-2008 15:43:47] <CrackZmoQ> i just want to find out why it died a few days ago. time to scrub through the logs again
[06-May-2008 15:47:24] <CrackZmoQ> is there any reason why there has to be so many logs?
[06-May-2008 15:47:43] <CrackZmoQ> can't all logging information just be output into one file?
[06-May-2008 16:09:04] <cgibbons> tada
[06-May-2008 16:14:25] <jberry> anybody have a clue why the java process spawed by zenjmx is such a pig? It sucks up a whole core for long periods of time.
[06-May-2008 16:14:39] <cgibbons> it's java
[06-May-2008 16:14:48] <cgibbons> how much core is it taking on your system?
[06-May-2008 16:14:52] <jberry> 100%
[06-May-2008 16:15:09] <jberry> seemingly at every poll interval.
[06-May-2008 16:15:17] <jberry> for much longer than I would think is needed.
[06-May-2008 16:15:33] <cgibbons> single CPU system, or?
[06-May-2008 16:15:42] <jberry> dual cpus. It's taking one of them.
[06-May-2008 16:16:08] <cgibbons> lemme ask the guy that wrote it if it does multiple threads, sorta sounds like it doesn't
[06-May-2008 16:16:08] <jberry> It has the look of a process that's spinning when it shouldn't be
[06-May-2008 16:16:34] <jberry> thx
[06-May-2008 16:17:02] <jberry> tell him to fix the other bugs in zenjmx while he's at it.
[06-May-2008 16:17:12] <cgibbons> yeah it's got a big todo list for sure
[06-May-2008 16:18:40] <_chris_> jberry: you are welcome to submit your bug reports to http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/
[06-May-2008 16:18:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-May-2008 16:19:15] <jberry> _chris_: thanks. Yes, I should do that. And have, at times.
[06-May-2008 16:19:27] <mray> _chris_: you beat me to it
[06-May-2008 16:19:55] <_chris_> jberry: it's remarkable how much more effective it is when you submit bug reports rather than make generic statements on irc like "fix the other bugs in zenjmx while he's at it."
[06-May-2008 16:20:28] <mray> _chris_ gets testy when people point out that his baby has warts
[06-May-2008 16:20:37] <jberry> _chris_: yes, understood. On the other hand it's also frustrating when ongong threads in forum get no zenoss input on issue such as zenjmx.
[06-May-2008 16:21:26] <_chris_> jberry: paying customers also get frustrated when developers spend time supporting non-paying customers. ;-)
[06-May-2008 16:22:23] <jberry> Well, hopefully making it so that zenjmx can actually work in an authenticated fashion, as advertised, is good for both parties. http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5401
[06-May-2008 16:22:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2008 16:25:56] <jberry> huh. I don't see any links to the trac site from the main zenoss pages. So that's encouraging people to file bugs? Or to hide bugs?
[06-May-2008 16:26:05] <mray> jberry: We're currently working on pushing out a new beta with improved installers
[06-May-2008 16:26:21] <_chris_> jberry: if you are interested in seeing this problem resolved you could: a.) become a paying customer, b.) modify the source code yourself and submit a patch. until then this problem will have to compete against the other 584 open tickets.
[06-May-2008 16:26:21] <mray> check and see if they fix your bug
[06-May-2008 16:26:52] <cgibbons> the 'Code' link on the zenoss page has a link that then takes you to trac, jberry
[06-May-2008 16:29:30] <jberry> cgibbons: thanks. I bug suggest a link for "bug reports" or "issue tracking". I use track, so I might have been able to figure out (though it wasn't obvious to me) that to file a bug report I'd click on a "code" link.
[06-May-2008 16:29:40] <jberry> trac, that is
[06-May-2008 16:31:16] <cgibbons> yeah
[06-May-2008 16:32:42] <jberry> cgibbons: it's not apparent how I file a bug. What login do I need to use?
[06-May-2008 16:32:44] <mray> jberry: out of curiosity, what kind of jmx monitoring are you doing? I'm just curious
[06-May-2008 16:33:22] <jberry> mray: monitoring a single java web server, pulling out about 5 different jmx parameters such as thead count, memory usage, etc.
[06-May-2008 16:33:52] <jberry> mray: and for that, the java process on the zen machine consumes about 2 minutes every five minutes at 100% cpu
[06-May-2008 16:34:05] <mray> jberry: looks like we require you to login to create a ticket
[06-May-2008 16:34:14] <cgibbons> huh that certainly does seem excessive
[06-May-2008 16:34:23] <jberry> mray: and how do I login?
[06-May-2008 16:34:25] <mray> I'll ask IT why we don't allow anonymous creation of tickets
[06-May-2008 16:34:32] <_chris_> we were getting spammed by our trac server
[06-May-2008 16:34:44] <_chris_> that's why we don't allow anon creation of tickets
[06-May-2008 16:35:15] <jberry> the new trac .11 which is due (any month now) is supposed to have better anti-spam controls.
[06-May-2008 16:36:16] <jberry> _chris_: so that answers your earlier question about why I might make statements like that, rather than filing bugs...
Because I can't![06-May-2008 16:36:59] <jberry> But making it hard to file bugs can be an efficient way to cut down bug counts
[06-May-2008 16:37:14] <_chris_> jberry: you can use the zenoss account to create tickets. the password is zenoss.
[06-May-2008 16:37:15] <mray> I can assure you that's unintentional
[06-May-2008 16:37:27] <jberry> _chris_: thanks
[06-May-2008 16:37:44] <mray> _chris_: should we put that up on the trac page somewhere?
[06-May-2008 16:37:52] <mray> or will that just encourage spammers?
[06-May-2008 16:38:43] <zenops> I am getting this errors "threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 716.72" I increased the values to 90 and I am still getting the same errors..what gives?
[06-May-2008 16:40:05] <zenops> I am also getting this one on my LOCALHOST but I have no clue: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded: current value 394.07
[06-May-2008 16:40:14] <zenops> please advice and thank you
[06-May-2008 16:41:19] <cgibbons> that's kinda neat
[06-May-2008 16:44:47] <zenops> When I changed the threshold from 75 to 90, now I get an page error on the performance tab... Module Python expression "here.speed / 8 * .90", line 1, in <expression>
[06-May-2008 16:45:30] <jberry> _chris_: Hmm. I just spent 5 minutes typing up a bug report after logging in as the zenoss user as suggested. But on submit of the ticket I got the error message "TICKET CREATE PRIVILEGES NEEDED" (or something like that).
[06-May-2008 16:47:26] <mray> jberry: Seriously? Send me the text and I'll enter it for you. I'm working on a ticket for IT to put those credentials on the page right now
[06-May-2008 16:47:34] <mray> jberry: mray@zenoss.com
[06-May-2008 16:48:05] <mray> if the credentials won't let you create a ticket, I'll get that fixed too
[06-May-2008 16:48:56] <jberry> mray: on an additional try it does seem to let me create a ticket. I got the error when I hit "preview" before hitting submit ticket. I'll try one more time.
[06-May-2008 16:52:22] <mray> Was that 3114?
[06-May-2008 16:52:42] <jberry> (that was probably the second test I did after the first failed).
[06-May-2008 16:52:50] <jberry> I just submitted a true but as #3115.
[06-May-2008 16:52:59] <jberry> "true bug"
[06-May-2008 16:53:31] <mray> cool, thanks
[06-May-2008 16:57:01] <zenops> Can some help me with my questions please..
[06-May-2008 17:04:07] <jberry> mray: filed #3116 about the zenjmx load issue. It's a bit skimpy, as I don't have any good diagnostic information for it, unfortunately.
[06-May-2008 17:05:36] <mray> zenops: You might want to post that to the forums to get a little more visibility. IRC is somewhat asynchronous and development is slammed right now.
[06-May-2008 17:13:54] <zenops> mray thanks, I did I am waiting for responses..
[06-May-2008 17:15:33] <zenops> but perhaps you could tell me this: why is it that lots of devices change the status of SNMP up to SNMP DOWN and back and forth..I am trying to find the cause, it does this for hours..
[06-May-2008 17:17:20] <jberry> mray: one other infrastructure issue that's annoying...
[06-May-2008 17:18:03] <jberry> I'm subscribed to the forum, but not to a mailing list. When I post to the forum, I get bounces back from various mailing lists, saying that my message has been rejected.
[06-May-2008 17:18:40] <jberry> The forum is posting to a mailing list which rejects my message because I'm not a mailing list subscriber. Not what I'd expect.
[06-May-2008 17:28:29] <Mosburn_mobile> has anyone managed to get zenoss 2.1.3 to pull AIX interfaces?
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[06-May-2008 18:08:14] <litein> I have monitoring some cisco routers and I see the bandwidth being used. However under the OS there are no interfaces. I have my routers in the network.router.cisco class.
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[06-May-2008 19:20:10] <zenops> I got this error: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded: current value 393.99 it only happens on the localhost that is hosting Zenoss...any ideas?
[06-May-2008 19:26:36] <romeo8484> Hello, I've installed the zenoss rpm on rhel5. But when I try to start it, it's assuming a blank mysql root password. Which file do I edit to tell it, mysql's root password? Thanks
[06-May-2008 19:33:39] <romeo8484> just found it with a grep... zenoss_init_pre and zenoss_init_post
[06-May-2008 19:36:31] <kazar> hi
[06-May-2008 19:36:36] <kazar> òóò åñòü æèâûå?
[06-May-2008 20:03:45] <garn32> is there a way to set zenoss core up so that it will email specific reports out to specifice zenoss users?
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[06-May-2008 20:09:02] <garn32> is there a way to set zenoss core up so that it will email specific reports out to specifice zenoss users?
[06-May-2008 20:13:56] <pat2man> so I am having issues with zenhub, it doesnt want to start and I am getting this in the zenhub log: http://pastebin.com/d3c85c4f5
[06-May-2008 20:15:24] <pat2man> anyone seen this before?
[06-May-2008 20:27:09] <_chris_> pat2man: shut down everything, cd ${ZENHOME}/var, remove the .zec files, and start back up
[06-May-2008 20:34:07] <pat2man> _chris_: sweet that did it, thanks
[06-May-2008 21:33:56] <garnica> how can I eliminate all events before Friday 2nd May from mysql event database ??
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[07-May-2008 07:24:10] <nemo_> mogguh
[07-May-2008 15:59:20] <kaptk2> I am installing a new Zenoss box on CentOS 5 with the i386 version of zenoss 2.1.3. Everything seems to install fine however when I issue /etc/init.d/zenoss start I get tons of errors. Most of which say something about can not allocate memory. How can I begin to trouble shoot this?
[07-May-2008 16:03:55] <kaptk2> Nevermind... it is because I am running it in a virtual machine
[07-May-2008 16:18:11] <mzenops> I rebooted the linux install where Zenoss its been hosted, and the zenoss client can not see any devices, they are all gone..
[07-May-2008 16:18:40] <mzenops> I can ping, login, logout and login from my client with no problem.
[07-May-2008 16:19:39] <mzenops> at the server I did a "zenoss restart: successfully a few times and still no devices..
[07-May-2008 16:45:06] <mzenops> I found out what it was....had to restart Mysld and snmpd manually..will not do it auot anymore..
[07-May-2008 16:45:16] <mzenops> I found out what it was....had to restart Mysld and snmpd manually..will not do it auto anymore..
[07-May-2008 18:11:39] <chart3399> hey hey
[07-May-2008 18:13:07] <chart3399> zenoss question...is it possible to associate a subnet with a location? That way all devices discovered in that subnet automatically show up under that location ?
[07-May-2008 21:41:41] <pat2man> does anyone know if there is a way to clear all past performance data? our system clock was a few days fast so I cant gather any performance data right now
[07-May-2008 21:42:34] <pat2man> "rrd error illegal attempt to update using time 1210196108 when last update time is 1210606978" and such
[07-May-2008 22:49:12] <swaheali> Has anyone use Zenoss to monitor windows directory size?
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[08-May-2008 09:48:13] <nocturn> Hi, I'm new to ZenOSS (used Nagios before)
[08-May-2008 09:48:32] <nocturn> I'm wondering how well ZenOSS works without SNMP
[08-May-2008 09:48:46] <nemo_> works fine, but it is very much setup for snmp
[08-May-2008 09:49:01] <nocturn> nemo_: I noticed that
[08-May-2008 09:49:29] <nocturn> What do I put in discovery protocol when not using snmp for a new device?
[08-May-2008 09:49:33] <nemo_> none
[08-May-2008 09:49:58] <nemo_> then you use your ip services collectors etc to define what gets modelled
[08-May-2008 10:06:27] <nocturn> This takes quite some getting used to when coming from Nagios...
[08-May-2008 10:19:52] * nemo_ nods
[08-May-2008 11:28:35] <nemo_> anyone got detailed info on zenoss users ?
[08-May-2008 11:28:53] <nemo_> the admin guide is very thin on details, lists only Manager, Zenuser
[08-May-2008 11:29:21] <nemo_> i would like to know the purpose / limitations of the other types of users, zenmanager etc
[08-May-2008 11:34:17] <nocturn> How do I disable snmp alltogehter for devices without it?
[08-May-2008 11:34:25] <nocturn> It pings my linksys ok, but I get an event:
[08-May-2008 11:34:41] <nocturn> snmp agent down on device core01
[08-May-2008 11:34:44] <nemo_> have a look at the zProperties for that class
[08-May-2008 11:34:55] <nemo_> zPingIgnore : True/False
[08-May-2008 11:35:01] <nemo_> something along those lines
[08-May-2008 11:35:26] <nemo_> if you want it for all devices , consider setting it on the /devices class
[08-May-2008 11:35:55] <nocturn> Ok, I'm starting to get the concept
[08-May-2008 11:36:12] <nocturn> Does ZenOSS also have something like an agent to run on clients?
[08-May-2008 11:36:20] <nemo_> that would be zSnmpIgnore btw
[08-May-2008 11:36:22] <nemo_> or similar
[08-May-2008 11:36:34] <nemo_> i have trouble remember all the variable names
[08-May-2008 11:38:22] <nocturn> It can do checks throug SSH?
[08-May-2008 11:38:36] <nemo_> zCommand i think
[08-May-2008 11:38:37] <nemo_> yes
[08-May-2008 11:38:43] <nocturn> Nice...
[08-May-2008 11:39:46] <nocturn> I have a lot to learn before I can actually use this...
[08-May-2008 11:45:54] <nocturn> nemo_: do you happen to know a good document to start with ZenOSS
[08-May-2008 11:51:53] <nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide
[08-May-2008 11:52:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2008 11:55:25] <nocturn> Bookmarked
[08-May-2008 11:55:27] <nocturn> thanks both
[08-May-2008 11:56:27] <nemo_> adytum-bot is a bot ;p
[08-May-2008 11:56:28] <adytum-bot> nemo_: Error: 'is' is not a valid command.
[08-May-2008 11:56:36] <nemo_> but np
[08-May-2008 12:05:49] <nocturn> Ok, I missed that
[08-May-2008 12:05:52] <nocturn> Need sleep
[08-May-2008 12:06:01] <locohost__> sle...what?
[08-May-2008 12:06:06] <locohost__> never heard of it
[08-May-2008 12:08:25] <nocturn> I have vague memories of being asleep at one point in my life :-)
[08-May-2008 12:10:44] <locohost__> sysadmins dont sleep, they drink rockstar energy drink in the dark
[08-May-2008 12:11:01] <locohost__> it all works out the same
[08-May-2008 12:15:52] <nocturn> :-)
[08-May-2008 12:15:58] <nocturn> I need to go, meetingitis...
[08-May-2008 12:16:00] <nocturn> CU guys
[08-May-2008 12:19:15] <nemo_> locohost. sounds healthy
[08-May-2008 12:24:22] <myrick> Hi Guys
Have someone time to help me ?[08-May-2008 12:24:28] <myrick> I have a few Questions .. =(
[08-May-2008 12:26:26] <nemo_> dont ask if you can ask, just ask, if someone can / be / bothered, they will
[08-May-2008 12:26:29] <nemo_>
[08-May-2008 12:26:39] <myrick> k =)
[08-May-2008 12:27:28] <myrick> For Example .. If i add a Location Tirol ( This is a regional selection ) and then as sub-location Innsbruck ( a City ) .. and then add there a Device .. like a Server or Printer ...
[08-May-2008 12:27:51] <myrick> Why it always need as Device Name at first the IP ADRESS ? and why it always try to use SNMP ?
[08-May-2008 12:28:26] <myrick> Our Server doesn't have SNMP ... and i'm too stupid to find the ..
[08-May-2008 12:36:45] <myrick> ok ..
[08-May-2008 12:39:17] <myrick> nemo_ ?
[08-May-2008 12:40:00] <nemo_> what did i say, if someone can be bothered, they will ;p
[08-May-2008 12:40:11] <nemo_> i dont work for zenoss, i just use it
[08-May-2008 12:40:50] <nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide
[08-May-2008 12:40:55] <nemo_> good place to start, have a good day
[08-May-2008 12:41:16] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2008 13:09:14] <myrick> kk last Question
[08-May-2008 13:09:56] <myrick> How i can configure what Event & Process e.g. ping, snmp, portscan it should try for DEVICES ?
[08-May-2008 13:25:48] <nemo_> thats called collector plugins
[08-May-2008 13:26:11] <nemo_> and is set per class and is inherited by child classes
[08-May-2008 13:31:17] <myrick> kk where i find this plugins ?
[08-May-2008 13:31:19] <myrick> nemo_
?[08-May-2008 13:32:00] <nemo_> RTFM dudes
[08-May-2008 13:32:26] <nemo_> i am not yo teacher, no one answers my questions ?
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] <nemo_> <nemo_> anyone got detailed info on zenoss users ?
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] <nemo_> <nemo_> the admin guide is very thin on details, lists only Manager, Zenuser
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] <nemo_> <nemo_> i would like to know the purpose / limitations of the other types of users, zenmanager etc
[08-May-2008 13:34:05] <chart3399> Does anyone know a way to associate a network subnet with a location in zenoss? That way whenever a new device is discovered in that subnet it is automatically associated with a particular location?
[08-May-2008 13:34:09] <nemo_> and i did RTFM
[08-May-2008 13:41:44] <myrick> nemo_ thank you .. but i have every plugin under collector plugins deleted and still its:
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] <myrick> Component Type
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] <myrick> Status
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] <myrick> Other
[08-May-2008 13:41:47] <myrick> snmp
[08-May-2008 13:45:11] <myrick> last question nemo_ but pls help me =(
[08-May-2008 13:45:50] <nemo_> come on get a life, i am not resposible for you learning stuff, i tried to help you myrick, but dont sit there waiting for me
[08-May-2008 13:46:34] <nemo_> OR pay contractors rates and i will fix your shit and talk to you on phone
[08-May-2008 13:46:37] <nemo_>
[08-May-2008 13:46:45] <myrick> nemo_ ... but i do'nt know why u can't give me a Solution ..
[08-May-2008 13:47:01] <nemo_> because I am at work doing my job, why do yours ?
[08-May-2008 13:47:02] <myrick> don't ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:16] <nemo_> i come to work for money, dont you ?
[08-May-2008 13:47:25] <myrick> Okay ... I give it up ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:36] <nemo_> nice, your a winner i can see it
[08-May-2008 13:47:41] <myrick> nemo_ nice day, nice weekend ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:49] <nemo_> you too
[08-May-2008 13:49:06] <chart3399> I come to work for the tings I can steal without anyone noticing
[08-May-2008 13:50:09] <nemo_> respec
[08-May-2008 14:46:10] <locohost__> lol
[08-May-2008 14:46:25] <locohost__> var1=`expr $RANDOM % 50`;var2=`rpm -qa|head -n $var1|tail -n 1`;yum remove $var2 -y
[08-May-2008 14:46:35] <locohost__> try cronning that every night at midnight, should fix the issue
[08-May-2008 14:48:24] <nemo_> locohost, how will that "fix the issue" ?
[08-May-2008 14:52:55] <locohost__> hehe, i lied it doesnt.
[08-May-2008 14:53:09] <locohost__> im over tired, up all night racking servers
[08-May-2008 15:14:44] <nemo_> teehee
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[08-May-2008 19:44:58] <myrick> Good Evening
somebody know where the HEADER of Zenoss is set ?[08-May-2008 20:37:32] <porkpie> Hi guy's I am having an issue installing zenoss on my ubuntu box make: *** No rule to make target `.patchdeps', needed by `default'. Stop.
[08-May-2008 20:37:33] <porkpie> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[08-May-2008 20:37:50] <porkpie> Can anyone help please
[08-May-2008 20:41:28] * porkpie cannot find any info on google :S
[08-May-2008 20:45:38] <porkpie> Come on guy's you must know the answer or even a link will help :S
[08-May-2008 20:45:48] <porkpie>
[08-May-2008 20:50:51] <porkpie> man why does no one reply
[08-May-2008 20:56:49] <fgarat> did you check your zenbuild.log?
[08-May-2008 21:03:43] <porkpie> fgarat:it didn't create one
[08-May-2008 23:46:35] <hednod> can't... seem to figure out how to get zenoss to NOT monitor an ip address, once the service had been added to the host
[08-May-2008 23:46:47] <hednod> wants to monitor all teh ips it found via snmp, but id on't want it to monitor all three
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[09-May-2008 07:27:09] <nocturn> Hi again
[09-May-2008 07:27:26] <nocturn> I installed a couple of ZenPacks on my zenoss server
[09-May-2008 07:27:38] <nocturn> But how do I couple those cheks on actual hosts?
[09-May-2008 07:27:48] <nocturn> one is het httpMonitor to monitor a couple of websites
[09-May-2008 07:42:21] <nemo_> moaning
[09-May-2008 08:35:19] <nocturn> Found it, but it's not so straightforward...
[09-May-2008 08:35:28] <nocturn> Maybe I've been doing Nagios for too long.
[09-May-2008 08:44:46] <nemo_> its a new way of doing things
[09-May-2008 08:49:29] <nocturn> Yeah, actually it's pretty nice once you get to know how
[09-May-2008 12:50:30] <xinity> hy all
[09-May-2008 12:52:37] <xinity> may i ask a quick question ? i was wondering how to make a custom event report ?
[09-May-2008 14:33:18] <myrick> Hi Guys .. I have a Problem, maybe someone could help me pls ... I selected in DEVICES / zSnmpMonitorIgnore to TRUE, because the most of our Hosts dont have snmp ... and now ... it dont add automatically the IPROUTE which i need for the NETWORK MAP .... I would be so glad if someone could help me .. Please Guys.
[09-May-2008 14:43:47] <xinity> myrick: in the collector plugins what do you have regarding iproute ? if it's the snmp plugins then that's the point
[09-May-2008 14:44:09] <xinity> myrick: maybe you should use instad the cmd plugins for collecting iproutes
[09-May-2008 14:44:09] <myrick> xinity .. wait erm
[09-May-2008 14:44:57] <myrick> in collector plugins i have: smnp.newdevicemap and snmp.devicemap and snmp.interfacemap and snmp.routemap ...
[09-May-2008 14:45:40] <myrick> so i have to delete this snmp. plugins and add the cmd. plugins xinity =) ?
[09-May-2008 14:45:43] <xinity> myrick: that's the point
[09-May-2008 14:45:47] <xinity> myrick: yes
[09-May-2008 14:45:58] <myrick> kk which command make's the route of the devices ?
[09-May-2008 14:46:04] <xinity> myrick: for all devices with wich you don't want to use the snp
[09-May-2008 14:46:13] <xinity> myrick: let me check my instance
[09-May-2008 14:46:16] <myrick> i never want to use snmp =)
[09-May-2008 14:46:18] <myrick> kk thank you
[09-May-2008 14:47:26] <xinity> myrick: zenoss.cmd.linux.netstat_an and zenoss.cmd.linux.netstat_rn
[09-May-2008 14:47:47] <xinity> myrick: names speaks easily aren't they ?
[09-May-2008 14:49:14] <xinity> myrick: but hey , to uses these plugins, your zenoss server should be able to make an ssh connection to your host with the zenoss login :-)
[09-May-2008 14:49:26] <myrick> Yeah .. but I'm really new in Zenoss and are in an apprenticeship so ..
[09-May-2008 14:49:33] <myrick> xinity .. really nice .. thank you
[09-May-2008 14:49:39] <xinity> myrick: welcome
[09-May-2008 14:50:06] <myrick> xinity, have you something like ICQ or MSN ?
[09-May-2008 14:50:26] <xinity> myrick: i do ;-)
[09-May-2008 14:50:56] <myrick> Am i allowed to know the UIN
?[09-May-2008 14:51:58] <xinity> myrick: you got it on notice
[09-May-2008 14:52:25] <myrick> mh .. pls per qry .. my Mac Os X Client don't show me the Notices
[09-May-2008 14:52:42] <xinity> myrick: what client are you using ?
[09-May-2008 14:52:50] <myrick> Colloquy
[09-May-2008 14:53:06] <xinity> it sucks, i've switched to irssi :-)
[09-May-2008 14:53:19] <myrick> i'll do the same now
[09-May-2008 14:53:28] <myrick> yeah .. in 5 min its Weekend
[09-May-2008 14:53:34] <myrick> Thank you .. now i have it =)
[09-May-2008 14:53:36] <xinity> myrick: lucky you are
[09-May-2008 22:40:38] <hednod> zenoss has automaticly detected a host on my network and now is monitoring services on it from multiple ips
[09-May-2008 22:40:41] <hednod> problem is
[09-May-2008 22:40:47] <hednod> i don't want it to monitor one of those services on all the ips
[09-May-2008 22:41:01] <hednod> how do i remove an ip from the service for that host
[09-May-2008 22:41:12] <hednod> lets me see the ips being montiored for that service but i cannot edit it
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[10-May-2008 06:12:49] <lordrage> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing zenoss on Debian
[10-May-2008 06:13:07] <lordrage> it says in the docs "Login as zenoss, edit the .bashrc and define a ZENHOME environment variable"
[10-May-2008 06:13:18] <lordrage> How do I login as zenoss without a password or anything?
[10-May-2008 10:26:24] <MrTux> lordrage: su?
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[10-May-2008 11:35:15] <lordrage> MrTux: nevermind, its fixed thanks
[10-May-2008 11:35:30] <lordrage> I actually need to retry, as it had a few errors building
[10-May-2008 15:56:16] <hti_pr1> got an issue with event mapping, I try to map a FAILED su event to /events/security/su/failed class which I have created, Each time I try to map it, it says 1 event does not have an event class key. Created 0 event mappings.
[10-May-2008 15:56:36] <hti_pr1> am i missing a step
[10-May-2008 16:08:44] <hti_pr1> is there a reason that all syslog events would have a null eventclasskey
[10-May-2008 16:17:31] <hti_pr1> is anyone alive in here
[10-May-2008 16:57:43] <hti_pr1> no one at all
[10-May-2008 19:42:28] <hednod> how do i change the ip address that a service checks on
[10-May-2008 19:42:40] <hednod> seem to be automaticly binding to every possibly ip address on the box its monitoring
[10-May-2008 19:43:10] <hednod> i only want it to monitor one ip address for the service in question
[10-May-2008 21:59:08] <hednod> this is ridiclous
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[11-May-2008 13:43:42] <tarjei> hi, I just installed zenos on RHEL5, but I had set a root pw for mysql before I did so. How can initialize the mysql db for zenoss and also tell zenoss which mysql pw/uid to use?
[11-May-2008 19:00:49] <masaghi> hi everybody. I want to get a MIB table from a SNMP agent and show it in zenoss. How can I do this????
[11-May-2008 19:02:08] <MrTux> masaghi: what do you mean with getting a mibtable from an agent? you can get values, mibtables will be delivered by the agent's manufacturer
[11-May-2008 19:06:41] <masaghi> MrTux:I mean how can I get an SNMP table's values from an agent using SNMP data collector and show it in zenoss in device OS tab.
[11-May-2008 19:08:44] <MrTux> masaghi: you need to write an own mapper for it, or if you have performance data you need to create a data template
[11-May-2008 19:10:02] <masaghi> MrTux: Would you please tell me in brief with step by strep instructions?
[11-May-2008 19:10:14] <MrTux> masaghi: for solution a or b?
[11-May-2008 19:10:33] <masaghi> MrTux: both of them
[11-May-2008 19:11:09] <masaghi> MrTux:I don't know the start point and the steps.
[11-May-2008 19:11:57] <xinity> masaghi: it's not that easy
[11-May-2008 19:12:03] <MrTux> masaghi: modeling have a look to http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/3ComDeviceModel/
[11-May-2008 19:12:18] <MrTux> masaghi: for performance template have a look to the guide
[11-May-2008 19:12:19] <adytum-bot> Title: 3Com Device Model - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2008 19:12:36] <MrTux> memo to me, ignore the bot
[11-May-2008 19:13:17] <MrTux> masaghi: in the device model you'll find the path to the files, so you can look how it works for os tab and hardware tab and so on
[11-May-2008 19:13:19] <masaghi> I 've seen this
[11-May-2008 19:13:49] <MrTux> i know the docs aren't that well, but i have had not yet time for writing additional docs...
[11-May-2008 19:14:09] <masaghi> I searched about 2 weeks
[11-May-2008 19:14:28] <masaghi> but I couldn't find something useful
[11-May-2008 19:14:28] <MrTux> and i'm not really happy about supporting zenoss in that way general, since their sales dep is a little bit crazy about prices
[11-May-2008 19:15:38] <masaghi> Could you please explain the solution by following InterfaceMap!
[11-May-2008 19:16:03] <MrTux> well, have a look to the examples, i cannot provide you more
[11-May-2008 19:16:35] <masaghi> ok
[11-May-2008 19:16:40] <masaghi> which examples?
[11-May-2008 19:17:19] <MrTux> InterfaceMap.py
[11-May-2008 19:18:19] <masaghi> Is it straight forward? I 've seen this file too and it's more different than 3Com Model!
[11-May-2008 19:19:05] <MrTux> well, you can see the concepts in there, everything else is on your own
[11-May-2008 19:19:24] <masaghi> Thanks a lot MrTux
[11-May-2008 19:19:33] <masaghi> May I have your email address
[11-May-2008 19:19:49] <masaghi> I want to develop a zenpack and distribute it
[11-May-2008 19:20:03] <MrTux> te@te3networks.de
[11-May-2008 19:20:11] <masaghi> to make it available for all
[11-May-2008 19:20:18] <masaghi> thanks a lot
[11-May-2008 19:20:21] <MrTux> i'll also publish one, in some time
[11-May-2008 19:20:41] <masaghi> Nice to meet you
[11-May-2008 19:21:06] <MrTux> may i ask for what you're working on?
[11-May-2008 19:22:06] <masaghi> I'm using zenoss to manage a network
[11-May-2008 19:22:24] <MrTux> do you have a special vendor on your screen?
[11-May-2008 19:22:49] <masaghi> and I want to use it to get some additional info from snmp agents that have been extended
[11-May-2008 19:22:54] <masaghi> No
[11-May-2008 19:23:00] <masaghi> we have no vendor
[11-May-2008 19:23:06] <MrTux> ok
[11-May-2008 19:23:22] <MrTux> i'm working on foundry devices gettin into zenoss
[11-May-2008 19:23:31] <masaghi> we use LTSP with thin clients with embedded os
[11-May-2008 19:23:42] <masaghi> That's great
[11-May-2008 19:24:23] <MrTux> but i think i'll license the pack to disallow the use with the enterprise editions..
[11-May-2008 19:24:57] <masaghi> why?
[11-May-2008 19:26:05] <MrTux> they wanted 60k$ for 1000 devices, and that is somehow the same price for openview, and for this sum there is now enough backflow to the opensource community
[11-May-2008 19:26:42] <masaghi> yeah, you right
[11-May-2008 19:28:43] <MrTux> and that is the sum for one year, so i cannot really think they now what they do
[11-May-2008 19:29:00] <MrTux> as i told them my opinion, they got rude, so i'm sorry
[11-May-2008 19:29:36] <MrTux> i will not support these guys, but helping people on the same way like my way
[11-May-2008 19:30:06] <masaghi> I think open source should be helpful for all people
[11-May-2008 19:30:40] <masaghi> especially for whom they believe freedom of software use and creation
[11-May-2008 19:30:56] <masaghi> not in the commercial ways!
[11-May-2008 19:31:18] <MrTux> i've no problem to pay for special features, i wanted only the enterprise packs.. and they told me this is not possible
[11-May-2008 19:31:29] <MrTux> so i will not made it possible to them to use my work
[11-May-2008 19:31:52] <masaghi> you are right
[11-May-2008 19:32:31] <masaghi> you make your effort and this is your right to get money for that.
[11-May-2008 19:34:49] <masaghi> MrTux: I'm so glad to meet you. Sure I will contact you. Bye for now.
[11-May-2008 19:34:59] <MrTux> bye
[11-May-2008 19:36:06] <xinity> MrTux: you can't licence the pack
[11-May-2008 19:36:36] <MrTux> xinity: i know. i need to license a bunch of things i do not want..
[11-May-2008 19:36:42] <xinity> MrTux: as you use the opensource version on Zenoss, you must deliver your packs according to the GPL licence
[11-May-2008 19:37:18] <MrTux> xinity: well, why? i use only interfaces, it's not a derivative of zenoss, i can choose any license i want..
[11-May-2008 19:38:08] <xinity> MrTux: it's not a fork right, but it's build on zenoss right ?
[11-May-2008 19:39:31] <MrTux> well, it's an addon, using interfaces.. i do not deliver any sources from zenoss, so... many products build on linux but arent opensource or gpl
[11-May-2008 19:41:24] <xinity> MrTux: this way , that's right
[11-May-2008 19:41:28] <MrTux> the enterprisepacks are also not gpl and are based on zenoss..
[11-May-2008 19:41:39] <MrTux> so why shouldn't i go the same way?
[11-May-2008 19:41:54] <xinity> MrTux: well, your choice
[11-May-2008 19:45:23] <masaghi> xinity: what is your solution? why it is not easy???
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[12-May-2008 11:35:30] <Ozux> Hi, Any body here that could install ZenOSS on debian lenny or sid?
[12-May-2008 11:35:46] <Ozux> I get make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[12-May-2008 11:35:56] <Ozux> and I installed python-dev
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[12-May-2008 12:36:08] <kop_> I'm hacking on an SnmpPlugin for the DataCollector
[12-May-2008 12:36:53] <kop_> does anyone know if there's a quick way to test it, other than deleting/adding a device?
[12-May-2008 12:37:23] <MrTux> running the modeler
[12-May-2008 12:37:44] <kop_> "Manage -> Model Device" doesn't seem to do anything with my new plugin
[12-May-2008 12:38:26] <xinity> kop_: run the modeler command line, rather than the gui interface
[12-May-2008 12:39:48] <kop_> aah I see
[12-May-2008 12:40:03] <kop_> great
[12-May-2008 12:40:40] <xinity> kop_:
[12-May-2008 12:53:16] <kop_> hmm strange, the HPDeviceMap obviously HAS run at some point, but now it doesn't
[12-May-2008 12:56:55] <kop_> its condition() returns device.snmpOid.startswith('.1.3.6.1.4.1.232') but now that turns out as false
[12-May-2008 12:57:50] <kop_> snmpOid is '.1.3.6.1.4.1.311', which is where Microsoft starts
[12-May-2008 12:59:57] <kop_> I can't get my head around how the HP properties were once set. *Why* and *when* did device.snmpOid equal .1.3.6.1.4.1.232 ?
[12-May-2008 13:04:24] <xinity> kop_: have you taken a look at hp snmp mibs ?
[12-May-2008 15:05:48] <magnachef> has anyone run into an issue where they are trying to create a user who needs to use the event list and move devices to history, but not have full admin rights?
[12-May-2008 15:18:43] <magnachef> I essentially need a NOC user where they can deal with events and manage the event list, but I don't want them to have access to user settings, etc
[12-May-2008 15:40:15] <bnafziger> magnachef, yes ... same issue here ... ask about the zen operator role zen pack ... 2.2 release may 21 .. may just be enterprise which we are ...
[12-May-2008 15:46:42] <magnachef> that's a bit dissapointing
[12-May-2008 15:46:55] <magnachef> so the Zen pack doesn't come out until may 21?
[12-May-2008 15:51:18] <magnachef> I'm looking at http://localhost:8080/zport/manage_access
[12-May-2008 15:51:27] <magnachef> seems like new roles can be defined within there
[12-May-2008 15:56:08] <magnachef> ...now to figure out what permissions to give to this "operator" role
[12-May-2008 16:01:30] <magnachef> can someone please give me some pointers for setting up this Operator status within manage_access screen?
[12-May-2008 19:49:54] <uadmin_> Hello All, Can anyone tell me how to take complete backup of the Zenoss
[12-May-2008 20:01:28] <mrayzenoss> Settings->Backup
[12-May-2008 20:01:42] <mrayzenoss> the Admin Guide has instructions for the CLI versions
[12-May-2008 20:03:27] <uadmin_> ok thank you
[12-May-2008 20:03:38] <uadmin_> i will go throught the admin guide
[12-May-2008 20:12:10] <bitshuffler_> Hello
[12-May-2008 20:13:29] <bitshuffler_> Could anyone please tell me if there already exists some Zenoss 2.1 release that works with Python 2.5 and / or if Zenoss 2.2 will do it?
[12-May-2008 20:14:24] <mrayzenoss> bitshuffler_: Sorry no.
[12-May-2008 20:14:42] <mrayzenoss> We're hamstrung on an older version of Zope that doesn't run on 2.5
[12-May-2008 20:14:54] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: as in you don't know or as in zenoss 2.2 wont work with python 2.5?
[12-May-2008 20:15:23] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss 2.2 won't work with Python 2.5 because our version of Zope won't run on Python 2.5
[12-May-2008 20:15:38] <MrTux> so use a newer version of zope
[12-May-2008 20:16:05] <mrayzenoss> MrTux: We've tried, it's hard
[12-May-2008 20:16:21] <mrayzenoss> we're pretty tightly stuck on the permissions of Zope 2.8, and 2.10 and later changed them
[12-May-2008 20:16:31] <mrayzenoss> it's a big pain, we're gonna fix it
[12-May-2008 20:16:47] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: ah, i see. Do you have any plans to switch your zope version? My problem is that in most / all current systems 2.5 is supported and 2.4.
[12-May-2008 20:17:01] <bitshuffler_> heh, you beat me to it
[12-May-2008 20:17:20] <mrayzenoss> we do plan on it, I know it's a pain. I'm the community manager and it's blocking us off of newer distros
[12-May-2008 20:17:36] <mrayzenoss> which is why we're delivering a "stack" installer for 2.2
[12-May-2008 20:17:46] <mrayzenoss> which has all our dependencies wrapped up
[12-May-2008 20:18:01] <mrayzenoss> Python/Zope/Zenoss
[12-May-2008 20:18:20] <mrayzenoss> which is good and bad
[12-May-2008 20:18:33] <bitshuffler_> which kinda defeats the purpos of shared libraries and burdens you with loads of work i might think.
[12-May-2008 20:19:02] <mrayzenoss> bitshuffler_: A bit, but it also negates the need to go crazy supporting 20 different linuxes
[12-May-2008 20:19:20] <mrayzenoss> like I said, good and bad. We know which Python/Zope are there
[12-May-2008 20:19:34] <mrayzenoss> but it keeps us blocked out of proper integration into Linux distributions
[12-May-2008 20:19:37] <mrayzenoss> which is a goal of mine
[12-May-2008 20:19:50] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: have you had a look at the suse build service - makes it pretty easy to distribute rpms for many distros via repositories & included mirror infrastructure?
[12-May-2008 20:20:01] <mrayzenoss> bitshuffler_: yup, I'm on it
[12-May-2008 20:20:05] <mrayzenoss> it's in my todo
[12-May-2008 20:20:12] <mrayzenoss> I've got a lot of todos
[12-May-2008 20:20:44] <mrayzenoss> stack install for 2.2, then a DMG for OSX and a Solaris build, then revisit getting Zope upgraded
[12-May-2008 20:20:58] <bitshuffler_> can you make a rough _unofficial_ guess when this will work - like xmas, 2 years on zenoss 6.2
?[12-May-2008 20:21:06] <mrayzenoss> well, I've been here 5 weeks
[12-May-2008 20:21:19] <bitshuffler_> oh
[12-May-2008 20:21:30] <mrayzenoss> we're talking about 2.3 now, I'm pushing for the Zope upgrade
[12-May-2008 20:21:38] <mrayzenoss> which will be the Python upgrade as well
[12-May-2008 20:22:08] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 is scheduled for fall I believe
[12-May-2008 20:22:40] <mrayzenoss> be back later, gotta go to a meeting
[12-May-2008 20:22:47] <bitshuffler_> fall sounds very good - i just recently discovered zenoss but with only 2.4 it's a no go here sadly.
[12-May-2008 20:22:58] <bitshuffler_> mrayzenoss: thanks a lot for taking your time!
[12-May-2008 20:26:16] <mrayzenoss> no problem
[12-May-2008 22:51:09] <swaheali> Has anyone ever monitored windows directory size with Zenoss?
[12-May-2008 22:53:45] <swaheali> Is it possible to do custom WMI queries with Zenoss?
[12-May-2008 23:02:56] <swaheali> Is it possible to do custom WMI queries with Zenoss?
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[13-May-2008 06:28:39] <nemo_> interesting
[13-May-2008 06:28:42] <nemo_> Loading...
[13-May-2008 06:28:42] <nemo_> | Core | Morgana
[13-May-2008 06:29:00] <nemo_> thats what my zenoss install says today, auto uprgades ?
[13-May-2008 11:25:48] <nocturn> Is it possible to have a custom notification in ZenOSS?
[13-May-2008 11:25:56] <nocturn> I would like to send alerts over Jabber
[13-May-2008 11:26:18] <magnachef> I would think so
[13-May-2008 11:26:33] <magnachef> I'm pretty sure that there is a jabber Perl module as well
[13-May-2008 11:28:31] <monrad> we hacked together an snpp daemon which can send out sms, jabber and irc notifications
[13-May-2008 11:28:38] <monrad> snpp is a pretty simple protocol
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[13-May-2008 13:28:05] <nocturn> I'll take a further look at it then...
[13-May-2008 15:52:10] <prioret> good afternoon
[13-May-2008 15:53:08] <prioret> can some one give me some guidance? I'm monitoring centos 5.1 with net-snmp and I'm trying to get a process listing
[13-May-2008 15:56:13] <nemo_> collector plugins
[13-May-2008 15:56:22] <nemo_> thats my advice, and google is your friend
[13-May-2008 15:57:10] <prioret> well I tried remodeling with the ssh instead of SNMP and that gave me even less info
[13-May-2008 15:57:53] <nemo_> well i told you whats going on
advice is free [13-May-2008 15:59:03] <prioret> is the shh method a "collector plugin?"
[13-May-2008 15:59:11] <nemo_> no
[13-May-2008 16:02:42] <prioret> ok, i understand what you mean by collector plug in. the device class is using all the available snmp collector plug ins available with core.
[13-May-2008 16:05:17] <nemo_> incl the one thats called HRSWinstalled ( or similar ) ?
[13-May-2008 16:05:21] <prioret> that being said, none of the names on the zenoss.snmp collector plugins seem to get processes, there is a zenoss.cmd.linux.process that would lead me to believe that could do it, but that with SSH?
[13-May-2008 16:05:58] <prioret> there is HRWSInstalledMap
[13-May-2008 16:07:02] <prioret> that apears to list installed SW, which is cool, but not what processes are running
[13-May-2008 16:09:14] <nemo_> ok going home
[13-May-2008 16:19:41] <Zenoss_usr> can anyone tell me,the number of days that zenoss will keep the data without the need of any backup scripts?
[13-May-2008 16:20:27] <Zenoss_usr> the data i mean is the graphs,reports,and history of events
[13-May-2008 17:29:06] <luisfqs> exit
[13-May-2008 17:29:29] <luisfqs> #help
[13-May-2008 17:35:08] <zenops> I have a bad oid message in one of my RSM, I know the value to change it to but I can't find the location of the existing OID to change to the right value, can anyone help?
[13-May-2008 17:40:40] <Zenoss_usr> can anyone tell me,the number of days that zenoss will keep the data without the need of any backup scripts?
[13-May-2008 17:40:42] <Zenoss_usr> the data i mean is the graphs,reports,and history of events
[13-May-2008 18:18:43] <Zenoss_usr> How can we stop Zenoss
[13-May-2008 18:20:45] <xinity> service zenoss stop , if you are on rpm based distro
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[13-May-2008 18:30:37] <Zenoss_usr> thank you
[13-May-2008 18:37:22] <xinity> rtfm my friend
[13-May-2008 18:40:51] <aedaemoen> hey guys, anyone else find the rpms for RHEL 5 to be unworking?
[13-May-2008 18:42:43] <aedaemoen> ( ive tried the latest stable release rpms, as well as the sprint rpms) and both of them are failing during the %pre
[13-May-2008 18:46:49] <xinity> aedaemoen: what's the output error ?
[13-May-2008 18:47:08] <aedaemoen> xinity: dont remember, but it fails to create the users home dir, which is rather funny :-D
[13-May-2008 19:01:13] <xinity> aedaemoen: selinux actived maybe ?
[13-May-2008 19:06:08] <aedaemoen> xinity: what would SEL have to do with an rpm installation failure ?
[13-May-2008 19:06:16] <aedaemoen> if SEL prevents it, then thats a very poorly written rpm
[13-May-2008 19:17:21] <xinity> aedaemoen: don't know, juste a clue, beside is there any already created home dir for zenoss user when you try to install using rpms
[13-May-2008 19:27:05] <aedaemoen> xinity: nope. clean installed system and it fails out
[13-May-2008 20:18:45] <prioret> I installed on a cento 5.1 x64 via RPM yesterday and i had no problem
[13-May-2008 23:29:21] <b52deb> anybody there
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[14-May-2008 05:33:40] <xinity> i've just received an zenoss from zenoss team says , upgrading zenoss enterprise, what does this mean ?
[14-May-2008 07:37:38] <nemo_> i think it means upgrade zenoss ?
[14-May-2008 08:11:30] <tsurc> with the centos 5 rpm for 2.1.3, after install what is the default user/password? I've searched and searched but I can't find a thing?
[14-May-2008 08:11:58] <nemo_> i am leaving this channel you
[14-May-2008 08:12:00] <nemo_> y)
[14-May-2008 08:12:05] <nemo_> y0*
[14-May-2008 08:12:28] <nemo_> nothing but silly questions and more importantly, fuck all usefull replies to any question i ever asked
[14-May-2008 08:12:40] <nemo_> tsurc, RTFM , no you didnt
[14-May-2008 08:12:53] <nemo_> bye all, sorry it had to end this way
[14-May-2008 08:13:45] <tsurc> not in the install documents here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ or in the FAQ
[14-May-2008 08:14:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Install on EL5 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-May-2008 08:16:51] <tsurc> anyone??
[14-May-2008 08:17:16] <tsurc> please?
[14-May-2008 08:31:10] <tsurc> brain figured it out: admin/zenoss. don't know why I didn't try that before obvious really
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[14-May-2008 14:20:35] <zenops> I am using the latest vmware image of zenoss, I have a default installation with 27 devices, 2 of those are cisco routers and 6 cisco switches
[14-May-2008 14:21:05] <zenops> I am getting the following messages since my install "threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded" in all my interfaces
[14-May-2008 14:21:46] <zenops> the router are by no means right now passing any traffic...
[14-May-2008 14:22:08] <zenops> maybe 7% utilization
[14-May-2008 14:23:13] <zenops> any suggestions?
[14-May-2008 15:26:24] <Zenoss_usr> Hello All,Can anyone tell me how many number of days does Zenoss keep the backup of the data being shown in the graps and reports?
[14-May-2008 15:26:44] <MrTux> Zenoss_usr: google for round robin database
[14-May-2008 15:31:42] <Zenoss_usr> Thanks MrTux
[14-May-2008 15:32:05] <Zenoss_usr> is the number of days configurable??
[14-May-2008 15:41:40] <Zenoss_usr> does the zenbackup.py script backup the /perf folder too??
[14-May-2008 16:06:44] <tripitaka> Hi, I've just installed zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.x86_64.rpm on a rhel5.1 x86_64 machine, and when I run the init script I get "/opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory" and the app silently fails to start
[14-May-2008 16:35:02] <zenops> When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 16:50:41] <wassy121> Hi there. Anyone have tips for debugging/resolving the intermittent alerts I am getting stating "Process not running: httpd".
[14-May-2008 16:50:57] <wassy121> Sometimes it will be quiet for days/weeks, then it will go on and off 16 times in an hour.
[14-May-2008 16:51:31] <wassy121> While the httpd process remains running the entire time. We are monitoring other processes on the machines as well, and they have no problems reporting proper functionality.
[14-May-2008 16:51:52] <wassy121> I admit this is a busy webserver, so apache threads are probably created/destroyed quickly/often.
[14-May-2008 18:47:40] <zenops> When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 19:44:12] <zenops> When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 19:55:01] <flea> w/o flame, can i ask which might be the preferred install for zenoss on ubuntu server >= 7.10
[14-May-2008 19:57:57] <Zenoss123> To how many days will the zenoss keep backup of the data of the servers it monitors in the Mysql db
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[15-May-2008 11:54:54] <indika> how can I install zenoss to diffren location like /opt/zenoss than /usr/local/zenoss with rhel 5
[15-May-2008 11:56:13] <indika> Is possible to do it with rhel .rpm installation
[15-May-2008 12:58:57] <_chris_> indika: it's not possible
[15-May-2008 14:35:11] <crashdummyMCH> can anyone help me with getting zenoss to run portscans and match the portscan results with the Application classes?
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[15-May-2008 14:56:32] <magnachef> is there a way to set the Event Console to refresh by default?
[15-May-2008 14:56:41] <magnachef> I'm sure there is, I just can't find out how
[15-May-2008 15:36:50] <mib_p3uz1o> Hello, if I have a notification with "Bad OID" and I have the installation, no Zenpacks, Mibs or plugin added, where do I go to correct the oid information?
[15-May-2008 15:37:11] <mib_p3uz1o> I meant I have a default installation
[15-May-2008 16:37:02] <JVirus> Hello
[15-May-2008 16:39:27] <magnachef> mib_p3: try rediscovering/remodeling the device, it's trying to poll an OID that no longer exists
[15-May-2008 16:40:16] <JVirus> %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 16:40:22] <JVirus> I have VMWare for the GNU distro for Zenoss. I am a noob to linux but I dont think its a linux issue. My snmp is functioning fine, no errors from the servers in zenoss but it is not collecting data anymore. I used the command: df in linux to make sure I had hard drive space and it looks fine. (22%
[15-May-2008 16:40:25] <JVirus> %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 17:19:26] <JVirus> help?
[15-May-2008 17:41:26] <JVirus> I have VMWare for the GNU distro for Zenoss. I am a noob to linux but I dont think its a linux issue. My snmp is functioning fine, no errors from the servers in zenoss but it is not collecting data anymore. I used the command: df in linux to make sure I had hard drive space and it looks fine. (22%
[15-May-2008 17:41:28] <JVirus> %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 18:03:29] <pat2man> anyone seen this with the .deb package?
aemon: zeoctl Error: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py is not an existing path[15-May-2008 20:59:09] <JVirus> anyone around that understands the vmware setup for zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:02:24] <mrayzenoss> like how?
[15-May-2008 21:31:47] <JVirus> sorry
[15-May-2008 21:31:56] <JVirus> are you still there mrayzenoss
[15-May-2008 21:32:13] <JVirus> I am having a weird issue with zenoss in vmware
[15-May-2008 21:34:16] <JVirus> ok, ill just say my issue, and ill stay in the room
[15-May-2008 21:35:42] <JVirus> I have had zenoss installed to vmware for a while now
[15-May-2008 21:35:45] <JVirus> works perfect
[15-May-2008 21:35:58] <JVirus> using hamachi as my vpn
[15-May-2008 21:36:23] <JVirus> worked great
[15-May-2008 21:36:44] <JVirus> but all of a sudden it stopped collecting snmp data from my 5 servers
[15-May-2008 21:37:20] <JVirus> thru the linux command I can not ping the hamachi IPs, but when I load the zenoss website it says it is connected and the servers are ready
[15-May-2008 21:37:26] <JVirus> so it sees them somehow
[15-May-2008 21:37:31] <pat2man> JVirus: can you run snmpwalk on those servers from within zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:37:37] <JVirus> it fails
[15-May-2008 21:38:39] <pat2man> sounds like the real issue is that it is not showing the devices as down, since it cant snmpwalk OR ping
[15-May-2008 21:38:52] <JVirus> wow, hold on a sec
[15-May-2008 21:39:36] <JVirus> its weird
[15-May-2008 21:39:44] <JVirus> some of my servers are working for snmp walk
[15-May-2008 21:39:47] <JVirus> others are not
[15-May-2008 21:39:52] <JVirus> but none collect data
[15-May-2008 21:40:25] <JVirus> I am checking my sonicwall logs and I am seeing a bunch of UDP packet drops
[15-May-2008 21:41:56] <pat2man> I assume zenperfsnmp is running...
[15-May-2008 21:44:02] <q2srw77> Just added a new Mib to Zenoss and created a new Template. Under perf the graph that I created is listed however all it says is Missing RRD File. Where can I find instructions on creating graphs from new MIBS?
[15-May-2008 21:45:36] <JVirus> zenperfsnmp?
[15-May-2008 21:45:57] <JVirus> sorry, I am new to networking beyond routing my internet
[15-May-2008 21:46:37] <JVirus> on my servers?
[15-May-2008 21:46:43] <JVirus> to relay the snmp info ?
[15-May-2008 21:48:37] <q2srw77> to pull the snmp info into the graph.
[15-May-2008 21:48:45] <JVirus> I use SNMP Informant on my windows servers
[15-May-2008 21:48:55] <JVirus> oh, does that run with zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:49:10] <JVirus> I JUST INSTALLED WHATEVER WAS DEFAULT WITH THE VMWARE DOWNLOAD
[15-May-2008 21:49:15] <JVirus> oops, sorry, caps
[15-May-2008 21:52:23] <pat2man> so basically once you import the mib you need to set up a new template with data sources and graphs and then bind it to your device
[15-May-2008 21:52:46] <pat2man> there is a document somewhere on the zenoss site
[15-May-2008 21:54:00] <pat2man> JVirus: under settings under daemons check to make sure everything is running
[15-May-2008 21:54:04] <q2srw77> yeah just need a new template which I setup, however must have missed something.
[15-May-2008 21:55:50] <JVirus> ok
[15-May-2008 21:56:03] <JVirus> zenping red light and zencommand red light
[15-May-2008 21:57:32] <JVirus> brb
[15-May-2008 21:57:50] <pat2man> JVirus: hit the start button on both
[15-May-2008 21:57:56] <pat2man> q2srw77: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch12s04.html
[15-May-2008 21:58:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-May-2008 22:09:30] <JVirus> ok
[15-May-2008 22:09:32] <JVirus> I started them
[15-May-2008 22:09:39] <JVirus> is there a good way to test them
[15-May-2008 22:10:16] <pat2man> if they are down it should show up with the zenoss issues portlet
[15-May-2008 22:10:35] <pat2man> or do you mean against a single device?
[15-May-2008 22:10:47] <JVirus> I just mean to test zenoss collecting the data
[15-May-2008 22:10:59] <JVirus> they servers have never shown being doen
[15-May-2008 22:11:02] <JVirus> down
[15-May-2008 22:11:10] <pat2man> yeah the zenping needs to be running
[15-May-2008 22:11:14] <JVirus> the graphs were just empty
[15-May-2008 22:11:36] <JVirus> ok
[15-May-2008 22:11:49] <pat2man> you can test zenperfsnmp from the command line, I assume ssh is set up on the vmware image
[15-May-2008 22:11:54] <JVirus> now 3 of my servers got a error report
[15-May-2008 22:12:04] <pat2man> so zenping is now running
[15-May-2008 22:12:13] <JVirus> says my server is down
[15-May-2008 22:12:13] <pat2man> and since it cannot ping the devices it is generating an error
[15-May-2008 22:12:23] <JVirus> but 2 are "working"
[15-May-2008 22:12:31] <JVirus> but I dont know how long to wait to get data
[15-May-2008 22:13:05] <JVirus> what is zenperfsnmp
[15-May-2008 22:13:16] <pat2man> from the command line on the zenoss box run "zenperfsnmp -d <your server> -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:13:19] <pat2man> "
[15-May-2008 22:13:31] <JVirus> <your server> = ip correct?
[15-May-2008 22:13:34] <pat2man> yup
[15-May-2008 22:13:39] <JVirus> with the " "
[15-May-2008 22:13:43] <pat2man> no ""
[15-May-2008 22:13:48] <JVirus> didnt think so
[15-May-2008 22:13:58] <pat2man> the -v 10 should show some useful data
[15-May-2008 22:14:42] <JVirus> command not found
[15-May-2008 22:15:10] <pat2man> ah, you need to run "su zenoss" first
[15-May-2008 22:15:42] <JVirus> permission denied
[15-May-2008 22:15:49] <pat2man> hmm
[15-May-2008 22:15:57] <JVirus> I did "su zenoss run"
[15-May-2008 22:16:07] <pat2man> oh just su zenoss
[15-May-2008 22:16:24] <JVirus> bash-3.00$
[15-May-2008 22:16:39] <pat2man> so now you are the zenoss user, run zenperfsnmp -d <your server> -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:16:54] <pat2man> err zenperfsnmp run -d <your server> -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:17:18] <JVirus> command not found
[15-May-2008 22:17:42] <pat2man> gmm
[15-May-2008 22:17:45] <pat2man> *hmm
[15-May-2008 22:17:45] <JVirus> ?
[15-May-2008 22:17:48] <JVirus> oh
[15-May-2008 22:17:48] <JVirus> lol
[15-May-2008 22:19:11] <JVirus> im going to call sonicwall support too just in case, but I will be on hold for 45 min before they talk to me
[15-May-2008 22:19:30] <JVirus> since I see those dropped packets for UDP
[15-May-2008 22:21:50] <pat2man> makes sense
[15-May-2008 22:22:26] <JVirus> I wish it did to me
[15-May-2008 22:22:26] <JVirus>
[15-May-2008 22:22:56] <JVirus> All I know is when I set up snmp I had to make it udp or something
[15-May-2008 22:23:01] <JVirus> so I figure that is an issue
[15-May-2008 22:23:03] <JVirus> lol
[15-May-2008 22:31:47] <JVirus> its just weird how hamachi is all set up, running, everythings online and zenoss said that half are down
[15-May-2008 22:34:15] <pat2man> well you said you could not ping from the zenoss box, right?
[15-May-2008 22:35:39] <JVirus> they wouldnt no
[15-May-2008 22:36:36] <JVirus> well see
[15-May-2008 22:36:39] <JVirus> thats what is weird
[15-May-2008 22:36:46] <JVirus> now I can ping half of them
[15-May-2008 22:36:56] <JVirus> but those half still dont receive the snmp data
[15-May-2008 22:37:22] <pat2man> are they behind the firewall?
[15-May-2008 22:37:28] <JVirus> yeah
[15-May-2008 22:37:37] <JVirus> all servers are the same
[15-May-2008 22:37:44] <JVirus> and my network here is behind a sonicwall
[15-May-2008 22:37:56] <JVirus> but I havnt had issues untill just recently
[15-May-2008 22:38:14] <JVirus> and the sonicwall is new, I am thinking that is it now. But not totally sure on how its acting
[15-May-2008 22:38:51] <pat2man> yeah, if you cant ping some servers then I would check the firewall
[15-May-2008 22:39:55] <JVirus> yeah
[15-May-2008 22:40:04] <JVirus> but you would think all servers would have the same issue
[15-May-2008 22:40:24] <JVirus> its the same commands being ran
[15-May-2008 22:41:33] <pat2man> you would think....
[15-May-2008 22:44:52] <JVirus> does an snmp walk do something different than the command that gathers the snmp info for the graphs
[15-May-2008 22:44:55] <JVirus> ?
[15-May-2008 22:54:48] <pat2man> well snmpwalk just grabs a small portion of the info
[15-May-2008 22:55:13] <pat2man> snmpperfmon grabs everything every 5 minutes and stores the important info as performance data
[15-May-2008 23:04:02] <JVirus> and snmpperfmon was not working on my linix distr
[15-May-2008 23:04:04] <JVirus> distro
[15-May-2008 23:04:19] <JVirus> kinda scarry
[15-May-2008 23:04:42] <JVirus> but I am the only one with access to this box so, I know there were no changes to that
[15-May-2008 23:05:27] <JVirus> still on hold waiting for sonicwall support
[15-May-2008 23:05:31] <JVirus> bleh
[15-May-2008 23:06:02] <JVirus> oh no it was zenperfsnmp that was a bad command
[15-May-2008 23:06:23] <JVirus> I dunno, I just want to quit my job
[15-May-2008 23:08:32] <JVirus> The nice thing is that it is thru vmware, so I can just copy the vmware files to a machine off my network and see if it runs ok
[15-May-2008 23:48:53] <JVirus> can I force zenoss to grab snmp data instead of sitting around for 5 minutes
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[16-May-2008 14:31:04] <magnachef> pin mpmccallum
[16-May-2008 14:31:26] <magnachef> blah, I mean "ping npmccallum"
[16-May-2008 14:31:37] <npmccallum> magnachef: yo
[16-May-2008 14:32:01] <magnachef> I'm wondering if I can get my hands on your updated Net-App zenpack?
[16-May-2008 14:32:10] <npmccallum> its on the website
[16-May-2008 14:32:21] <magnachef> version 1.0?
[16-May-2008 14:33:14] <magnachef> ahhh...NetApp Volume
[16-May-2008 14:34:25] <magnachef> thanks...has anyone been able to get the perf graph working for the regular NetApp zenpack
[16-May-2008 14:48:22] <malbon> hola folks
[16-May-2008 14:48:38] <magnachef> is there any issues that I now have two /Devices/Storage/NetApp classes?
[16-May-2008 14:48:58] <malbon> quick question for devs, I have my WMI connection working, how do I define templates using WMI as a data source?
[16-May-2008 14:52:19] <pat2man> malbon: you have to create a command data source and run the wmi tool, take a look at the existing wmi zenpacks for a good way to do it
[16-May-2008 14:54:06] <malbon> pat2man: thanks, I want to avoid using commands wherever possible.
[16-May-2008 14:55:02] <pat2man> well its just the wmi command, you need to tell it the server and username, etc. the wmi zenpacks do it quite well
[16-May-2008 14:55:51] <malbon> so what does zenwin do?
[16-May-2008 14:57:28] <pat2man> heh, dont know exactly, something about modeling
[16-May-2008 14:58:51] <npmccallum> magnachef: There should be one that is Netapp and one that is NetApp, no?
[16-May-2008 14:59:13] <magnachef> They were both captial "A"
[16-May-2008 14:59:26] <magnachef> but that was from having the other NetApp zenpack installed
[16-May-2008 15:00:35] <magnachef> one has a "Name" of NetApp, and one (yours) has a Name of FileSystem
[16-May-2008 15:02:41] <malbon> pat2man: it's ok, I'll read the source. Thanks for the help.
[16-May-2008 15:03:35] <npmccallum> magnachef: oh
[16-May-2008 15:04:30] <mib_jes4ca> Hi, I am using the vmare install, I have not added any zenpacks or mibs, I am getting this messages from my routers..unrouted VLAN 34 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1944.34
[16-May-2008 15:04:44] <magnachef> npmccallum: are you using both zenpacks, or just yours?
[16-May-2008 15:04:55] <npmccallum> magnachef: neither at the moment
[16-May-2008 15:05:03] <mib_jes4ca> Where do I find these settings to be fixed?
[16-May-2008 15:05:06] <magnachef> heh
[16-May-2008 15:05:27] <mib_jes4ca> since is the default install, I just can't find these settigs
[16-May-2008 15:05:54] <magnachef> you need to go to the device class
[16-May-2008 15:06:03] <magnachef> then click on Templates
[16-May-2008 15:07:15] <magnachef> you may you then may need to create a new rule to filter out your VLAN type interfaces, or just change the threshold
[16-May-2008 15:07:31] <magnachef> so you would probably want to start with ethernetCsmacd
[16-May-2008 15:07:46] <mib_jes4ca> here.speed / 8 * .75
[16-May-2008 15:08:05] <mib_jes4ca> that is my setting, I would rather filter out the vlans
[16-May-2008 15:08:10] <magnachef> ok
[16-May-2008 15:08:23] <magnachef> so go to device class: /Devices/Network
[16-May-2008 15:08:37] <mib_jes4ca> your idea of the vlans is the right one
[16-May-2008 15:09:12] <magnachef> then create a new template, with the name of the interface type (as defined by zenoss) probably something like "vlan"
[16-May-2008 15:10:10] <magnachef> then just leave everything blank in that template (under data sources, thresholds, and graph definitions) and you should be done
[16-May-2008 15:10:32] <magnachef> I've done this for propVirtual interfaces
[16-May-2008 15:10:32] <mib_jes4ca> wow !!
[16-May-2008 15:10:39] <mib_jes4ca> that easy eh?
[16-May-2008 15:10:49] <magnachef> that's all ya gotta do!
[16-May-2008 15:11:00] <mib_jes4ca> awesome..let me give it a spin 11
[16-May-2008 15:11:07] <magnachef> good luck
[16-May-2008 15:11:16] <mib_jes4ca> thanks
[16-May-2008 15:11:19] <magnachef> don't forget to clear out those old events after setting up the template
[16-May-2008 15:11:20] <magnachef> np
[16-May-2008 15:11:27] <mib_jes4ca> sure..
[16-May-2008 15:14:25] <mib_jes4ca> does the template needs to bound?
[16-May-2008 15:14:51] <magnachef> I don't think so
[16-May-2008 15:15:07] <mib_jes4ca> What does bind means to the system?
[16-May-2008 15:15:23] <magnachef> heh, not sure
[16-May-2008 15:15:29] <mib_jes4ca> ok..
[16-May-2008 15:15:40] <magnachef> maybe someone else can chime in on that
[16-May-2008 15:16:47] <magnachef> npm: I'm getting a zenoss error after remodeling the device, then clicking on the perf tab
[16-May-2008 15:18:32] <magnachef> hmmm...only for one of my netapp devices...
[16-May-2008 15:19:58] <mib_jes4ca> I am also getting this: Error reading value for "unrouted VLAN 193" on some.router (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.296 is bad)
[16-May-2008 15:20:21] <mib_jes4ca> where is this oid located, again this is the default install
[16-May-2008 15:20:30] <mib_jes4ca> I know the value it needs
[16-May-2008 15:20:39] <mib_jes4ca> I just do not know where is stored
[16-May-2008 15:21:02] <magnachef> should be within the template
[16-May-2008 15:25:19] <magnachef> npm: nevermind, got it working...just waiting for some graph to populate now
[16-May-2008 15:28:17] <pat2man> anyone know the reason behind including mysql in the 2.2 packages instead of just depending on it?
[16-May-2008 15:29:12] <mib_jes4ca> is not in the defualt templates...it is buried somewhere else....any ideas?
[16-May-2008 15:36:03] <mib_jes4ca> nope, can't find it...hmmm..
[16-May-2008 15:36:19] <magnachef> npmccallum: I'm seeing disk information and all that good stuff under the OS tab, but nothing under perf...thoughts?
[16-May-2008 15:36:34] <npmccallum> magnachef: that is correct for now
[16-May-2008 15:36:37] <magnachef> I'm getting some events for warning threshold as well
[16-May-2008 15:36:49] <npmccallum> if you select a disk, you'll see trending dta
[16-May-2008 15:36:50] <magnachef> ok...cool, so that part still needs to be done
[16-May-2008 15:36:58] <magnachef> oh, ok
[16-May-2008 15:37:10] <npmccallum> I'm not doing performance yet, but I'm sure I'll do it at somepoint
[16-May-2008 15:37:47] <magnachef> nice...I'd be happy to help out with that too, as it's fairly high priority for me
[16-May-2008 15:39:51] <npmccallum> ok
[16-May-2008 15:40:00] <npmccallum> feel free to work on it, I'll take patches
[16-May-2008 15:42:52] <magnachef> yeah, I'm seeing some negative values as well...not sure why
[16-May-2008 15:46:42] <npmccallum> magnachef: I've noticed that
[16-May-2008 15:46:55] <npmccallum> I haven't researched it though
[16-May-2008 15:47:15] <npmccallum> again, feel free to work on it. I'll accept patches...
[16-May-2008 16:54:26] <pat2man> has anyone tried monitoring openvpn? zenoss doesnt seem to like the interface: inet addr:10.140.5.22 P-t-P:10.10.25.3 Mask:255.255.255.255
[16-May-2008 17:00:59] <bpage> i've read through the documentation and cannot seem to find the system requirements for zenoss. would someone be able to give me an idea of what these might be?
[16-May-2008 17:03:01] <bpage> particularly how much ram to allocate
[16-May-2008 17:03:21] <bpage> so that the plugins will not timeout
[16-May-2008 17:05:44] <wonderhamster> I've run into a problem with zencommand. It seems to be running properly in that "zencommand -d server -v10" returns "DEBUG:zen.zencommand:rrd save result: 42818364.0" however when I run "rrdtool info /path/to/DB.rrd" the value shows up as ds[ds0].last_ds and ds[ds0].value=NaN
[16-May-2008 17:06:11] <wonderhamster> what plugings are timing out bpage?
[16-May-2008 17:08:03] <bpage> wonderhamster - this is the error i'm getting 'CRITICAL - Plugin timed out while executing system call'. i specifically checkingmy dns
[16-May-2008 17:09:15] <wonderhamster> where are you getting this? during the zenmodeler or is this being returned as an error?
[16-May-2008 17:09:50] <bpage> its being returned as in error in the email notification
[16-May-2008 17:10:20] <wonderhamster> did you look at the event that was generated?
[16-May-2008 17:11:30] <bpage> i currently have zenoss installed on a centos 5 box with 512 mb ram and the zenoss process appears to be using 490 mb of ram itself. i though this was maybe an indicator that zenoss needed more ram.
[16-May-2008 17:11:43] <bpage> but could not find anything to verify this
[16-May-2008 17:12:12] <bpage> i did look at the event and everything seemed fine
[16-May-2008 17:13:47] <wonderhamster> I'm not sure what the minimum requirements are, but I do know that the more checks that you run, the more RAM will be required
[16-May-2008 17:14:07] <bpage> i'm thinking that possibly that the plugin is timing out waiting for the kernel to move info in and out of swap
[16-May-2008 17:14:20] <bpage> which would make sense
[16-May-2008 17:15:07] <bpage> i was just trying to get some real numbers as to how much ram is needed for "X" amount of checks
[16-May-2008 17:15:14] <wonderhamster> you could use vmstat to determine how much swap in/swap out activity is happening on the box
[16-May-2008 17:16:20] <bpage> ok. thx wonderhamster
[16-May-2008 17:21:55] <magnachef> npmccallum: it seems like I'm getting the negatives on my 2T mounts...could it be something with the 32 bit counter?
[16-May-2008 17:22:06] <npmccallum> magnachef: could be
[16-May-2008 18:16:20] <garnica> hi people! I've just installed Zenoss on Fedora Core 8, everything works fine, when I try the rpath: https://localhost:8003 login I have no connection... any idea ??
[16-May-2008 18:18:53] <MrTux> garnica: try without https port 8080
[16-May-2008 18:19:23] <MrTux> garnica: if you need https you need to built yourself a custom apache reverse proxy..
[16-May-2008 18:19:56] <garnica> http://localhost:8080 I have Zenoss login... works fine... but when I try the rpath administration tool ... I can not see it...
[16-May-2008 18:19:57] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[16-May-2008 18:20:19] <garnica> this rpath tool works fine when I use the VMWare Zenoss option
[16-May-2008 18:21:44] <Lego> Who authored the Quick Start Guide for Zenoss pdf? The font is terrible! It's not anti-aliased well at all
[16-May-2008 18:23:30] <garnica> I believe rpath tool is not available when you install Zenoss on any Linux distro...
[16-May-2008 18:23:54] <garnica> only available for the VMware Zenoss option for windows......
[16-May-2008 18:24:21] <garnica> anyway.... how can I set my Zenoss app... to listen to port 8081 instead of 8080 ??
[16-May-2008 18:24:44] <garnica> so it can be http://localhost:8081 ??
[16-May-2008 18:29:34] <mib_jes4ca> I am getting this Error: reading value for "unrouted VLAN 193" on some.router (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.296 is bad)
[16-May-2008 18:29:50] <mib_jes4ca> I know the value it needs
[16-May-2008 18:29:59] <mib_jes4ca> I just do not know where is stored
[16-May-2008 18:30:12] <mib_jes4ca> to change it, does anyone know
[16-May-2008 18:31:03] <MrTux> garnica: you should never ever change this port
[16-May-2008 18:31:16] <garnica> Mr Tux... why ?
[16-May-2008 18:31:47] <MrTux> garnica: ist is not only the webinterfaces, but also the communication path of all internal subsystems, you need to changeit everywhere through the source
[16-May-2008 18:33:02] <garnica> Mr Tux: ok... I belive you ! I'm getting aware of this...
[16-May-2008 18:48:30] <mib_jes4ca> can anyone help
[16-May-2008 18:58:25] <MrTux> mib_jes4ca: have a look into the device templates
[16-May-2008 19:04:13] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2331&highlight=propvirtual
[16-May-2008 19:04:21] <magnachef> mib_jes: this may help
[16-May-2008 19:04:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Threshold for VLANS (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-May-2008 19:20:45] <mib_jes4ca> thanks
[16-May-2008 19:21:43] <magnachef> np
[16-May-2008 20:45:34] <garnica> a
[16-May-2008 20:54:50] <Lego> a
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[16-May-2008 21:12:34] <magnachef> so is there any way to have the event list refresh by default?
[16-May-2008 21:49:14] <pat2man> so I am trying to get the asterisk mib loaded, I am currently getting this error: WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "Channels" on pbx01 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 is bad)
[16-May-2008 21:49:40] <pat2man> but this works fine: snmpwalk -c community -v 2c pbx01 .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0
[16-May-2008 21:50:22] <pat2man> mib shows up under mibs, shows: astNumChannels 1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1
[16-May-2008 21:50:22] <Lego> does it work also if you snmpget instead of snmpwalk?
[16-May-2008 21:51:11] <pat2man> snmpget -c community -v 2c pbx01 .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 works
[16-May-2008 21:51:38] <pat2man> although I did run: export MIBS=+ASTERISK-MIB
[16-May-2008 21:52:33] <pat2man> magnachef: you could probably dig through the html+javascript and add a refresh...
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[16-May-2008 23:12:01] <kso512> Hello everyone...!
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[17-May-2008 03:23:49] <mostym> hi all
[17-May-2008 03:24:38] <mostym> I have a question. if i have 5 servers behind a firewall, can I monitor these servers from another network?
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[17-May-2008 15:50:22] <mostym> is there a way to change the ip address from root?
[17-May-2008 16:29:44] <mostym> anyone here?
[17-May-2008 16:38:12] <mostym> very sad.. no help for me
[17-May-2008 16:47:30] <mostym> i changed the ifcfg-eth0 file to reflect the static IP address that I want to use...
[17-May-2008 16:47:45] <mostym> service network restart, however it is still not wokring....
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[18-May-2008 02:18:36] <troy42> narf
[18-May-2008 03:19:52] <mostym> does anyone know how to login to rAA ? I don't know what the credintials are..
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[18-May-2008 16:21:03] <troy> g'morning
[18-May-2008 18:22:47] <bubbasixpack> how stable is the head in svn? the gutsy install is failing on hardy
[18-May-2008 21:48:17] <anvo> hello
[18-May-2008 21:48:48] <anvo> is there an installation guide for zenoss under ubuntu hurdy heron?
[18-May-2008 21:49:10] <MrTux> anvo: not yet, but in my experience the older ones work as well
[18-May-2008 21:49:42] <anvo> Hmmmm
[18-May-2008 21:49:46] <anvo> Well...
[18-May-2008 21:50:20] <anvo> In fact I have it installed, already! But I don't know what username and password to type!!!
[18-May-2008 21:50:30] <MrTux> admin and zenoss
[18-May-2008 21:52:02] <anvo> Trying it...
[18-May-2008 21:53:15] <anvo> It seems it works...!
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[19-May-2008 12:43:59] <Blinny> My zensyslog.py is consistently using up 100% of the CPU - I've checked logs/zensyslog but it's not being streamed with data. Where can I look to find out more information about what it's doing?
[19-May-2008 12:53:55] <mib_jes4ca> I got the following message: oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0 is bad, this my default installation, mibs added....where do I go to change the OIDS values?
[19-May-2008 15:04:39] <mray> Hey _chris_, Zenoss 2.2 is out!
[19-May-2008 15:04:46] <_chris_>
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[19-May-2008 15:17:59] <kso512> yay - 2.2...!
[19-May-2008 15:18:17] * kso512 goes to try it out...
[19-May-2008 15:22:41] <magnachef> any big changes in 2.2?
[19-May-2008 15:23:07] * magnachef is too lazy/busy right now to check himself
[19-May-2008 15:25:22] <mib_jes4ca> mray: Could you help me aout...I posted the question to the forums and I can get an answer..
[19-May-2008 15:25:40] <mib_jes4ca> I also followed a posting and tha solution is not working..
[19-May-2008 15:26:11] <mib_jes4ca> It is about a Vlan intefaces on Cisco...
[19-May-2008 15:26:29] <magnachef> that forum link I sent didn't help?
[19-May-2008 15:26:40] <mib_jes4ca> The solution was to create a Blank template
[19-May-2008 15:26:52] <magnachef> yeah, for that type of interface
[19-May-2008 15:26:58] <mib_jes4ca> Yes, I follow that...but I am still getting the errors
[19-May-2008 15:27:06] <magnachef> did you restart Zenoss?
[19-May-2008 15:27:08] <mib_jes4ca> proVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:27:15] <magnachef> propVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:27:16] <mib_jes4ca> and it was totally balnk..
[19-May-2008 15:27:23] <mib_jes4ca> I also rebooted Zenoss
[19-May-2008 15:27:26] <mib_jes4ca> no luck
[19-May-2008 15:27:32] <magnachef> hmmm
[19-May-2008 15:27:35] <mib_jes4ca> rebooted Server, no luck
[19-May-2008 15:28:03] <mib_jes4ca> sometimes I get the blue warnings with bad oids, sometime i don't
[19-May-2008 15:28:21] <mib_jes4ca> yes propVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:29:04] <mib_jes4ca> when you created a propVirtual..did you delete the local ethernetcsmda
[19-May-2008 15:29:22] <magnachef> no
[19-May-2008 15:29:51] <magnachef> you need to keep that...in reality you should just create a copy of that under the /Devices/Network class
[19-May-2008 15:29:52] <mib_jes4ca> ok..
[19-May-2008 15:30:10] <magnachef> change the name, then remove the thresholds, etc
[19-May-2008 15:30:15] <mib_jes4ca> I also bound it..same results..
[19-May-2008 15:30:33] <mib_jes4ca> names of what..propVirtual?
[19-May-2008 15:30:51] <magnachef> I'm not sure what binding really does
[19-May-2008 15:31:10] <magnachef> yeah, from Copy of ethernetCsmace
[19-May-2008 15:31:17] <mib_jes4ca> I do not either..anyways..
[19-May-2008 15:31:57] <mib_jes4ca> that is what I did, I made a copy to that location, removed everything and then rename to propVirtual, saved it
[19-May-2008 15:32:09] <mib_jes4ca> restared zenoss....same errors
[19-May-2008 15:33:00] <mib_jes4ca> Zenoss is very frustrating unless you understand Pyhton..
[19-May-2008 15:33:19] <mib_jes4ca> The Forums and the IRC channels are kind of dead..
[19-May-2008 15:34:29] <magnachef> yeah, I've been working through it, but you do run into some roadblocks
[19-May-2008 15:34:57] <mib_jes4ca> these are my typical errors: unrouted VLAN 33 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 903.75
[19-May-2008 15:35:58] <mib_jes4ca> Error reading value for "unrouted VLAN 1005" on some.router.us (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14.256 is bad)
[19-May-2008 15:36:10] <magnachef> so do you have a VLAN group, similar to the propVirtual ones?
[19-May-2008 15:36:57] <mib_jes4ca> My bosses like the product alot but since it takes too long to fix an issue, they do not feel confident about it..
[19-May-2008 15:37:18] <mib_jes4ca> I am fighting to keep it here, but it is getting tougher
[19-May-2008 15:37:21] <magnachef> well...that's where you may want to look into the enterprise w/support
[19-May-2008 15:38:00] <magnachef> I'll say this though...any system you get will have a big learning curve and take time to work out the kinks with your environment
[19-May-2008 15:38:10] <mib_jes4ca> They are all for that...but they want a proof of concept first....they want the "core" system working first
[19-May-2008 15:38:59] <magnachef> you should talk to sales, as I recently did. They will do a proof of concept with the Enterprise edition, help you set it up, give support, etc so that you can see what that version can do for you
[19-May-2008 15:39:00] <mib_jes4ca> I do agree, their angle is, since it is GPL, we are subjected to someone elses timetable...
[19-May-2008 15:40:12] <magnachef> right...but if you do go with the enterprise edition, then you are a paying customer, which will give you faster (hopefully) turnaround on support
[19-May-2008 15:40:36] <mib_jes4ca> I got like 500 VLANS, but the interface TYPE = propVirtual
[19-May-2008 15:44:02] <magnachef> you should go through and make sure you setup everything up and spelled everything correctly, etc
[19-May-2008 15:44:52] <mib_jes4ca> I have instaaled Zenoss in all the different solution they have , all flavors of Linux, etc..
[19-May-2008 15:45:28] <mib_jes4ca> I finally settle in with VMWARE instaal, it is the less prone to errors right of the box..
[19-May-2008 15:45:58] <mib_jes4ca> I have gotten pretty good at installing Zenoss, but that is all
[19-May-2008 15:46:45] <mib_jes4ca> I think it is wonderful product...just tough to learn
[19-May-2008 15:47:46] <mib_jes4ca> like those bad OIDs messages...ok...where do I go and change the oids since I have not installed any mibs at all?
[19-May-2008 15:47:55] <mib_jes4ca> don't know where to go..
[19-May-2008 15:49:53] <magnachef> well, it's not that you need to change the OIDs, you just need to filter those out
[19-May-2008 15:50:34] <mib_jes4ca> Can you expand on that?
[19-May-2008 15:51:10] <jfchevrette> Hello everyone
[19-May-2008 15:51:17] <magnachef> well, by doing that propVirtual blank template, it will match those, but not do anything about them
[19-May-2008 15:51:22] <magnachef> essentially filtering them out
[19-May-2008 15:51:59] <jfchevrette> Does anybody know when the 2.2 install files will be up on sourceforge?
[19-May-2008 15:52:20] <magnachef> rumor has it that it was released today
[19-May-2008 15:53:10] <jfchevrette> Yes indeed
[19-May-2008 15:53:33] <mib_jes4ca> I am listening..
[19-May-2008 16:02:06] <jfchevrette> Well I'm new to zenoss and I can't even download it.... I understand the new version was released today but maybe the files should be made available before making the announcement ?
[19-May-2008 16:08:22] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/download/links?nt
[19-May-2008 16:08:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Download Links - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-May-2008 16:09:40] <jfchevrette> Maybe it's just me but this doesn't work: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-2.2.0-0-linux.bin
[19-May-2008 16:09:58] <jfchevrette> I get redirected a few times and it ends with "too many redirects" or 404
[19-May-2008 16:10:24] <magnachef> just download from the zenoss site
[19-May-2008 16:11:00] <magnachef> maybe it's something on the sourceforge end
[19-May-2008 16:11:49] <jfchevrette> I can't seem to find that file hosted on the zenoss website.... seems like all download links points to sourceforge
[19-May-2008 16:11:57] <jfchevrette> yeah maybe it's sourceforge
[19-May-2008 16:57:29] <kso512> Try a different mirror site.
[19-May-2008 17:01:17] <kso512> Hrmmm - other mirror sites doing the same thing... I was able to download the Ubuntu ".deb" file ok earlier - bizarre...!
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[19-May-2008 17:14:12] <Handyman> Can somebody help me figure out a way to disable monitoring Windows services on a per-server basis?
[19-May-2008 20:26:08] <shoyt> anyone here
[19-May-2008 20:26:25] <magnachef> perhaps
[19-May-2008 20:26:34] <mrayzenoss> yo
[19-May-2008 20:26:42] <shoyt> this is my first time on this channel
[19-May-2008 20:26:46] <magnachef> welcome
[19-May-2008 20:26:54] <shoyt> have a problem hoping someone can help
[19-May-2008 20:27:26] <shoyt> this has to do with zenjmx
[19-May-2008 20:27:38] * magnachef hides
[19-May-2008 20:29:39] <shoyt> anyone ever seen this error?:
[19-May-2008 20:29:46] <shoyt> [2008-05-19 13:10:44,332] [WARN ] [pool-2-thread-20] com.zenoss.zenpacks.zenjmx.Processor:104 - (-1720836092): timeout occurred during request
[19-May-2008 20:30:10] <shoyt> happens when I view any JMX graph
[19-May-2008 20:55:50] <kso512> I haven't toyed with that part yet - sorry...
[19-May-2008 21:05:21] <shoyt> no worries
[19-May-2008 21:05:25] <shoyt> anyone else?
[19-May-2008 21:25:11] <pat2man> does anyone know how to change the font size on graph reports?
[19-May-2008 21:27:29] <mrayzenoss> shoyt: Not sure what's causing that, there are several JMX tickets already opened, feel free to throw one on the pile. It's getting worked on right now.
[19-May-2008 21:30:58] <malbon> shoyt: tail your zenjmx.log to check you are getting decent values from your JMX interface
[19-May-2008 21:31:11] <malbon> shoyt: I haven't seen that error in my JMX testing.
[19-May-2008 21:35:57] <shoyt> I've done that and all I get are timeout errors
[19-May-2008 21:36:38] <shoyt> but zenjmx run DOES pull values but the graphs all still show nan
[19-May-2008 22:19:54] <malbon> hmm he went.
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[20-May-2008 13:28:34] <mib_jes4ca> in the installation of 2.2 release , is asking for MySql password, I thought the password was supposed to be blank?
[20-May-2008 13:36:13] <mrayzenoss> go ahead and put in a password, it'll use that when it creates the mysql instance
[20-May-2008 13:38:29] <mib_jes4ca> ok thanks
[20-May-2008 14:30:28] <zaf> anyone else having trouble downloading from sourceforge/
[20-May-2008 14:30:38] <magnachef> someone mentioned that yesterday
[20-May-2008 14:31:54] <zaf> ah yeah, i see tat now
[20-May-2008 14:32:16] <zaf> any other known mirrors?
[20-May-2008 14:35:41] <zaf> ah - http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss/2.2/
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[20-May-2008 14:45:14] <mib_jes4ca> Hey magnachef
[20-May-2008 14:45:49] <mib_jes4ca> So I finally got it to work, that propVlan issue.
[20-May-2008 15:02:25] <_0x44> I have a custom data collector plugin to map HPUX filesystems, because Zenoss cannot do so on its own. When I try to model the device, though, I get a WARNING: zen.ApplyDataMap attribute '' not found on object ''. What do I need to do to get the DataMap attributes applied?
[20-May-2008 15:12:53] <MrTux> _0x44: looks like an coding failure on your site, try adding debug output to your devicemap.py
[20-May-2008 18:59:07] <jk321> any ever have trouble runing the zenbackup on cron?
[20-May-2008 18:59:10] <jk321> gives me an error
[20-May-2008 18:59:15] <jk321> ectory
[20-May-2008 18:59:15] <jk321> ch file or directory
[20-May-2008 18:59:23] <jk321> ectory
[20-May-2008 18:59:40] <jk321> "/usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenbackup: line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or di"
[20-May-2008 19:00:01] <jk321> might be because of my profile variables
[20-May-2008 19:00:15] <jk321> i changed zenhome to the exact path in zenbackup
[20-May-2008 19:00:22] <jk321> but im not sure what $PYTHON relates to
[20-May-2008 19:13:16] <wonderhamster> I'm having a problem with zencommand timing out when collecting from more than a handful of remote ssh hosts. Has anyone had any experience with this issue?
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[20-May-2008 21:05:27] <kso512> ...lo all
[20-May-2008 21:11:59] <richard> does zenoss automatically compile the installed software list in the device tab for linux or do I need to do it by hand?
[20-May-2008 21:16:51] <kso512> I'm fairly new, but I haven't seen it fill out Linux software at all...
[20-May-2008 21:17:23] <kso512> I may well be missing something important though...
[20-May-2008 21:23:23] <richard> ahh, cheers. it does on windows?
[20-May-2008 21:49:51] <kso512> richard: if you get the SNMP Informant working right, yeah, it grabs lots of data.
[20-May-2008 21:51:04] <richard> kso512, cool. my snmp is rusty. time to read up i guess
[20-May-2008 22:02:25] * telexicon sighs
[20-May-2008 22:02:33] <telexicon> anybody had reliability issues with zenoss?
[20-May-2008 22:03:09] <richard> not yet
[20-May-2008 22:04:23] <kso512> telexicon: Nope - pretty stable for me.
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[21-May-2008 14:25:41] <twm1010> morning all
[21-May-2008 14:46:45] <mrayzenoss> morning twm1010, just sent you an email
[21-May-2008 14:49:58] <soloman> Hi. Where can I download ZenPacks.zenoss.LDAPMonitor? Can't find it anywhere in zenpack section
[21-May-2008 14:52:33] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20177#20177
[21-May-2008 14:52:53] <mrayzenoss> I'll be reposting that to the blog, but the individual link is here: http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual/
[21-May-2008 14:53:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual (at dev.zenoss.org)
[21-May-2008 14:54:07] <soloman> thanks
[21-May-2008 14:55:16] <soloman> Type: AttributeError
[21-May-2008 14:55:16] <soloman> Value: getBrokenPackName
[21-May-2008 14:55:24] <soloman> ok I installed but when I try to bind LDAP template I got this error
[21-May-2008 14:56:32] <soloman> it installed and binded ok but this error occures when I click on LDAPServer in Templates of my device
[21-May-2008 14:56:36] <soloman> the same thing with ApacheMonitor zenpack
[21-May-2008 14:57:06] <mrayzenoss> you might want to go to the forums with that, development is watching for 2.2 upgrade issues
[21-May-2008 14:58:57] <soloman> I just installed on a new system and added these 2 zenpacks. Seems like it was not tested at all by zenoss team.
[21-May-2008 14:59:22] <mrayzenoss> I'm pretty sure we're running LDAP and ApacheMonitor internally
[21-May-2008 15:00:09] <mrayzenoss> but there's always a possibility we missed something
[21-May-2008 15:01:29] <mrayzenoss> we test on 15 platforms with source, rpms, debs, bin and a variety of tests with less than 10 developers. We're hiring a release engineer to make things go smoother.
[21-May-2008 15:01:39] <soloman> also after I binded these zenpacks I can't see OS tab in device section. Got this error Type: AttributeError Value: datapoints
[21-May-2008 15:02:06] <soloman> maybe the problem is I'm running on Gentoo
[21-May-2008 15:02:16] <mrayzenoss> that's not one of the 15 platforms
[21-May-2008 15:02:34] <mrayzenoss> source install?
[21-May-2008 15:02:54] <soloman> I was pretty sure Gentoo is one of 15 popular platforms worldwide
[21-May-2008 15:02:55] <soloman> yes
[21-May-2008 15:03:00] <soloman> source install
[21-May-2008 15:05:20] <soloman> can't see OS if either LDAP or ApacheMonitor binded or both of them.
[21-May-2008 15:05:47] <mrayzenoss> soloman: I'm sure Gentoo is top-15, I used to run it myself. When I say 15 platforms it's 4 Red Hats/CentOS, 6 Fedoras, 6 Suses, 4 Ubuntus, 2 Debians, 2 VMWares,
[21-May-2008 15:06:01] <mrayzenoss> plus OSX
[21-May-2008 15:06:09] <soloman> yeah I know that
[21-May-2008 15:06:29] <soloman> I use Gentoo only as my desktop not on production servers
[21-May-2008 15:07:03] <soloman> but have plans to use on production in the future
[21-May-2008 15:07:17] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I ran it for 3 years on the desktop and eventually it fell over under it's own weight of cruft. Of course, I was a bleeding-edge kinda guy who broke my own box frequently
[21-May-2008 15:08:01] <mrayzenoss> but as for your problem, I don't know the answer myself, but I know development is watching the forums and you should get a good response there. If you post, I'll keep an eye out for it.
[21-May-2008 15:08:23] <mib_zbchaq> what is a Zenpack with an .egg extension
[21-May-2008 15:09:17] <soloman> mrayzenoss: ok, thank you.
[21-May-2008 15:09:25] <mrayzenoss> mib_zbchaq: for 2.2, the ZenPack structure was rewritten to be more standard
[21-May-2008 15:09:34] <mrayzenoss> Python "egg" format for packaging, which provides dependency management
[21-May-2008 15:09:43] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/code/zenoss-2.2/zenoss-core-2.2
[21-May-2008 15:09:48] <mib_zbchaq> how do I use this file?
[21-May-2008 15:09:52] <mib_zbchaq> instal it?
[21-May-2008 15:10:00] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6012
[21-May-2008 15:10:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.2 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-May-2008 15:10:20] <mrayzenoss> apparently I need to blog post out faster
[21-May-2008 15:11:57] <mib_zbchaq> you guys did a great job on the installer
[21-May-2008 15:12:05] <mrayzenoss> thanks!
[21-May-2008 15:12:29] <mrayzenoss> BitRock is a pretty good company to work with, they do a lot of Open Source installers
[21-May-2008 15:13:52] <mib_zbchaq> I have a propVirtual interface template created it, it is blank to avoid the Exceeded errors..
[21-May-2008 15:14:38] <mib_zbchaq> What do I have to do collect perfromance or thresholds
[21-May-2008 15:14:57] <mib_zbchaq> I just don't want to populate it and then have the same errors again..
[21-May-2008 15:15:57] <mib_zbchaq> Basically, how do I monitor Vlan traffic with the propVirtula interface
[21-May-2008 15:21:33] <twm1010> hey matt... checkin your email now
[21-May-2008 15:27:53] <twm1010> mrayzenoss : so the conary command I used on the appliance didn't upgrade the Zenpacks?
[21-May-2008 15:30:06] <mrayzenoss> are you asking me or telling me? I don't know myself, but I'd like to know the answer. I know dev is watching the forums so post there if you've got a problem.
[21-May-2008 15:30:30] <mrayzenoss> they're specifically looking for upgrade problems right now
[21-May-2008 15:30:32] <twm1010> No, it did not actually
[21-May-2008 15:30:33] <mrayzenoss> yay
[21-May-2008 15:30:37] * mrayzenoss is kinda punchy
[21-May-2008 15:30:41] <twm1010> running the command you posted right now
[21-May-2008 15:31:01] <twm1010> i've been waiting on the 2.2 release/docs to learn zenpacks
[21-May-2008 15:31:01] <mrayzenoss> well, it wasn't my work, it was Jason's
[21-May-2008 15:31:16] <twm1010> i didn't want to put together anything if the architecture was changing
[21-May-2008 15:31:17] <soloman> mrayzenoss: I just installed zenoss 2.2 on Fedora 6 32bit from Stack installer then added localhost as device and installed ApacheMonitor 2.2 (egg). Got the same Zenoss error - Value: getBrokenPackName
[21-May-2008 15:31:27] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I'll appreciate feedback on the documentation
[21-May-2008 15:31:38] <soloman> Fedora is in supported platforms as I know
[21-May-2008 15:31:43] <mrayzenoss> soloman: sounds like something we should be able to recreate it then
[21-May-2008 15:31:57] <twm1010> ok, i'll read up then, because I haven't TOUCHED zenpacks until this. i want to author netware, groupwise, and e-directory zenpacks
[21-May-2008 15:32:12] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I think there's a Netware one of some sort
[21-May-2008 15:32:22] <mrayzenoss> and 2.1.3 ZenPacks will work with 2.2
[21-May-2008 15:32:22] <twm1010> ah... there is a check_nlm one
[21-May-2008 15:32:32] <mrayzenoss> they might not work with 2.3, but that's a ways off
[21-May-2008 15:32:46] <twm1010> which does okay, but its so much easier to have everything together, the performance template, the commands and scripts
[21-May-2008 15:32:56] <mrayzenoss> we don't have any Netware in-house, so that's all community-driven
[21-May-2008 15:33:12] <mrayzenoss> always happy to have more community ZenPacks
[21-May-2008 15:33:16] <twm1010> i found a post today from a year ago where someone was modifying collects to find netware filesystems, but nothing ever came of it
[21-May-2008 15:33:39] <twm1010> it can't be too difficult, the demo version of solarwinds does it, so obviously the information is already there
[21-May-2008 15:33:47] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I try to encourage people whenever I see them talking about writing them, but I've only been here since April 1.
[21-May-2008 15:34:36] <twm1010> unfortunately it looks like the company wants to use a commercial product, and doesn't want to spend for Zenoss Ent. so any further development is on my own time going forward
[21-May-2008 15:36:06] <twm1010> Device/Network dependencies is my largest issue, and that got moved to Zenoss 3.0 timeline, so i really can't wait for it
[21-May-2008 15:36:08] <mrayzenoss> well, keep fighting the good fight. Hopefully you can show them that Zenoss is better than the commercial product and eventually displace it
[21-May-2008 15:36:20] <twm1010> Could be, solarwinds costs as much as Zenoss Enterprise
[21-May-2008 15:36:35] <twm1010> but, some of the smaller products meet 99% of our needs for only 3-4k
[21-May-2008 15:37:34] <mrayzenoss> I believe we're going to be changing our pricing soon, but I don't have any numbers for you.
[21-May-2008 15:37:58] <twm1010> Sure... well we got some time yet, and I'm certainly not turning my Zenoss box off, its got 10 months of good data on it
[21-May-2008 15:37:59] <mrayzenoss> we do offer an Enterprise trial with support if that helps
[21-May-2008 15:39:20] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I'm still not seeing your email
[21-May-2008 15:39:21] <twm1010> I didn't send one
[21-May-2008 15:39:22] <twm1010> I got yours, was what I was saying.
[21-May-2008 15:39:24] <mrayzenoss> ahh
[21-May-2008 15:39:26] <twm1010> Good explanation... its a lot of work/time
[21-May-2008 15:39:28] <mrayzenoss> well, we're growing fast
[21-May-2008 15:39:41] <soloman> mrayzenoss: I think it would be easy to reproduce - just install on any zenoss 2.2
[21-May-2008 15:39:45] <mrayzenoss> I was employee #28, and we hit 38 today
[21-May-2008 15:40:03] <twm1010> If I wasn't comfortable where I am, I'd be sending a resume, it interests me greatly
[21-May-2008 15:40:28] <mrayzenoss> we always need great people in Austin and Annapolis
[21-May-2008 15:41:09] <twm1010> Yep, its in the back of my mind, I have a BS to finish first, 1 year to go, then I re-weigh options
[21-May-2008 15:42:13] <twm1010> So far 2.2 has fixed all my VM performance issues, before my box was churning 75-100% cpu all the time, now its back to what it was when I started with 2.1
[21-May-2008 15:42:54] <locohost> anyway to make critical alerts fire off a audio file of some type?
[21-May-2008 15:42:57] <mrayzenoss> soloman: I've mentioned it to development, post it on zenoss-users and someone will recreate it
[21-May-2008 15:43:10] <mrayzenoss> locohost: Event commands could do that
[21-May-2008 15:43:11] <twm1010> loco: event command
[21-May-2008 15:43:31] <locohost> ty, ill look into that
[21-May-2008 15:43:31] <mrayzenoss> locohost: that could get crazy, but I like it
[21-May-2008 15:43:56] <locohost> I dont need to get crazy, i just want critical alerts to wake up sleeping noc operators
[21-May-2008 15:43:56] <locohost>
[21-May-2008 15:44:03] <twm1010> hehe, kind of like how I have look @ lan play the "red alert" sound from star trek anytime a node on a range of IP addresses goes down
[21-May-2008 15:44:31] <locohost> my old nms that im about to decomission (castle rock) playes the death march
[21-May-2008 15:45:10] <soloman> btw how to create an alert if I didn't receive some snmp data too long?
[21-May-2008 15:45:24] <twm1010> whats funny is when i turn my volume up to listen to music, then the music stops and some jackass reboots a router
[21-May-2008 15:45:33] <locohost> i was thinking something along the lines of "Ive had it with these mofo snakes on my mofo plane!"
[21-May-2008 15:45:33] <twm1010> then i get this ear-piercing loud red alert sound.
[21-May-2008 15:45:39] <twm1010> i've fell out of my chair more than once
[21-May-2008 15:45:57] <mrayzenoss> this is my sound: http://loc.homelinux.org/data/fixit.mp3
[21-May-2008 15:46:24] <locohost> or just nick burns saying "Ekkk, moooove!"
[21-May-2008 15:46:56] <twm1010> i had an mp3 of homer simpson saying "doh!" like 100+ times...
[21-May-2008 15:47:31] <locohost> yeah, yeah i heard that one
[21-May-2008 15:47:48] <locohost> heh, mray, is that phillip j fry?
[21-May-2008 15:48:30] <mrayzenoss> yup
[21-May-2008 15:48:52] <twm1010> holy crap, 2.2 fixed the server time issue... its about damn time, literally
[21-May-2008 15:49:14] <mib_zbchaq> Do I install this file type ".egg", Via Zenpack Gui?....How do I save it to the local drive...?
[21-May-2008 15:49:14] <mrayzenoss> 750+ tickets closed
[21-May-2008 15:52:54] <mib_zbchaq> The new installer fix a lot problems for me..I had this problems for 6 weeks and I was ready to walk away..
[21-May-2008 15:53:17] <mrayzenoss> yeah, the installer was killing us
[21-May-2008 15:53:18] <mrayzenoss> when I interview I bitched about the install, documentation and the crazy UI
[21-May-2008 15:53:20] <mib_zbchaq> it is awesome !!
[21-May-2008 15:53:20] <mrayzenoss> working on documentation now
[21-May-2008 15:53:24] <twm1010> im downloading the documentation, sourceforge only running at 7KB/sec :|
[21-May-2008 15:53:27] <mrayzenoss> speaking of working, I'm gonna duck out and go do some
[21-May-2008 15:53:27] <mib_zbchaq> Do I install this file type ".egg", Via Zenpack Gui?....How do I save it to the local drive...?
[21-May-2008 15:53:34] <mrayzenoss> mib_zbchaq: just a sec
[21-May-2008 15:53:37] <mib_zbchaq> sure
[21-May-2008 15:54:47] <mrayzenoss> Settings->ZenPack
[21-May-2008 15:55:13] <mrayzenoss> the tab-menu to the left of "Loaded Zen Packs"
[21-May-2008 15:55:23] <mrayzenoss> "Install a ZenPack"
[21-May-2008 15:55:35] <mrayzenoss> browse to your downloaded .egg file
[21-May-2008 15:55:35] <mib_zbchaq> I've done that..
[21-May-2008 15:55:58] <mib_zbchaq> When I try to download the egg, instaed opens up as a text file
[21-May-2008 15:56:15] <mrayzenoss> oh, your browser doesn't know what it is
[21-May-2008 15:56:31] <mrayzenoss> just right-click and say "save link as"
[21-May-2008 15:56:40] <mib_zbchaq> I guess
[21-May-2008 15:58:01] <mib_zbchaq> So Mray: how do I monitor Vlan traffic...I already created and propVirtual interfece
[21-May-2008 15:58:06] <mib_zbchaq> that is empty
[21-May-2008 15:58:30] <mrayzenoss> I'm sorry I don't know.
[21-May-2008 15:58:32] <mib_zbchaq> Thanks I got it ot install
[21-May-2008 15:58:41] <mib_zbchaq> the EGG file
[21-May-2008 15:59:00] <mib_zbchaq> ok thanks
[21-May-2008 15:59:15] <twm1010> doh! zenpack upgrade broke my zenpacks tab in the UI
[21-May-2008 15:59:41] <mib_zbchaq> So only Zenpacks with the .egg extension will work with 2.2?
[21-May-2008 16:00:02] <twm1010> i think 2.2 will support old zenpacks, but going forward zenpacks will only be developed with the .egg
[21-May-2008 16:00:18] <mib_zbchaq> I see...
[21-May-2008 16:00:21] <mrayzenoss> mib_zbchaq: that's cool. As far as the Vlan traffic, I'd post to zenoss-users. Hopefully someone can help you
[21-May-2008 16:00:54] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: how did it break?
[21-May-2008 16:01:11] <mib_zbchaq> I wish the forums were more active...lots of questions, not a lot of answers..
[21-May-2008 16:01:56] <mib_zbchaq> I think I got respones on 1 out 5 posts
[21-May-2008 16:02:14] <mrayzenoss> yeah, twm1010 was just telling me how hard it is to get stuff out of there
[21-May-2008 16:03:07] <mrayzenoss> we hired a new web guy today, I'm gonna work on him to come up with something better for search
[21-May-2008 16:03:08] <mrayzenoss> but now I need to go
[21-May-2008 16:04:00] <mrayzenoss> but right now we have multiple developers watching the forums for 2.2 issues, so the forums should be somewhat more responsive on upgrades and installations
[21-May-2008 16:06:06] <mib_zbchaq> thanks
[21-May-2008 16:30:24] <soloman> hmm
[21-May-2008 16:30:46] <soloman> after I binded standart template ethernetCsmacd my device Perf tab refused to work
[21-May-2008 16:30:55] <soloman> I get error Value: speed
[21-May-2008 16:31:10] <locohost> hmm, bind it to an interface, not a device
[21-May-2008 16:31:19] <locohost> i had that problem, if i remember correctly
[21-May-2008 16:31:49] <locohost> the ethernetCsmacd is graphed on the software tab, when you click on that if.
[21-May-2008 16:31:53] <soloman> locohost: where in UI I can bind it to interface?
[21-May-2008 16:32:07] <soloman> i see only how to bind to device
[21-May-2008 16:33:33] <locohost> on the OS tab, click on eth0, or bond0, or whatever your if is called
[21-May-2008 16:33:43] <soloman> zenoss 2.2 seems very unstable.
[21-May-2008 16:34:08] <locohost> thats where the ethernetCsmacd graphs go, you cant apply that template to a host, you apply it to interfaces
[21-May-2008 16:34:27] <soloman> i constantly get lots of errors on a fresh install with only 1 device
[21-May-2008 16:37:12] <locohost> what errors?
[21-May-2008 16:37:33] <locohost> hmm, anyone know how to reset the admin password to zenoss? if you dont know it?
[21-May-2008 16:39:28] <mib_zbchaq> Why do I get on Hardware/CPU is blank..I get 2 instances for 2 cpu's but all fields are Zero and Manufacturer=unknown
[21-May-2008 16:39:49] <soloman> locohost: when I try to install and bind ApacheMonitor - I get an error
[21-May-2008 16:40:02] <soloman> when o click on Apache after binding
[21-May-2008 16:40:11] <soloman> the same thing with LDAP monitor
[21-May-2008 16:44:22] <locohost> what is the error
[21-May-2008 16:46:16] <locohost> mib, i think thats what snmp is returning for the cpu type, isnt that in hostresources or something? i could be wrong
[21-May-2008 16:53:11] <locohost> sudo su - zenoss -c "zpasswd.py -u admin -p zenoss -e CRYPT /opt/zenoss/inituser" ftw
[21-May-2008 16:55:45] <twm1010> mib: i think that depends on the O/S's SNMP support for scanning the hardware
[21-May-2008 16:56:13] <locohost> i actually ditched their entire hw tab, and made my own that pulls off of a sql cmdb
[21-May-2008 16:56:22] <twm1010> i would think the hp and dell zenpacks are meant to talk to the OID's provided by software like insight manager and openmanage to get specific info from the HW
[21-May-2008 16:56:33] <locohost> then i run a client side script to populate the db for that host
[21-May-2008 16:56:47] <twm1010> loco: interesting...
[21-May-2008 16:56:51] <soloman> i receive zenoss error when i click on Apache or LDAP in device templates
[21-May-2008 16:57:28] <twm1010> solo, open the details, and create a post on the forum for it
[21-May-2008 16:57:36] <twm1010> with the trace
[21-May-2008 16:57:54] <soloman> ok
[21-May-2008 16:58:04] <soloman> btw how to create an event if I didn't receive some snmp data too long?
[21-May-2008 16:59:07] <twm1010> solo: clarify that question, i don't understand
[21-May-2008 17:02:45] <soloman> f.e. i check free disk space every 1 minute. but if i kill snmpd on a device i see no events even after 1 hour. But i want to get an alert when info about free disk space wasn't updated for 30 minutes and more
[21-May-2008 17:04:11] <soloman> f.e. in zabbix i could create threshold like free_disk_space.nodata(600) - it generates an alert if zabbix didn't receive any data on free disk space for 600 seconds
[21-May-2008 17:17:53] <mib_zbchaq> Theses are all HP servers and I have HPMonitor Zenpack installed
[21-May-2008 17:19:36] <mib_zbchaq> What is this: sudo su - zenoss -c "zpasswd.py -u admin -p zenoss -e CRYPT /opt/zenoss/inituser" ftw
[21-May-2008 17:24:14] <locohost> i forgot a password, and used that to reset it
[21-May-2008 17:24:31] <twm1010> if you kill SNMP, you should get an event that SNMP is not responding
[21-May-2008 17:30:19] <soloman> twm1010: but I don't. Maybe i need to create this event?
[21-May-2008 17:37:10] <locohost> so, i fi want to add audio alerts, i go to zenevenManager, and create a filter, like : (summary like '%Process not running%' or summary like '%down%')
[21-May-2008 17:37:58] <locohost> but, what runs that will play the sound, have it load a url on the client machine or something?
[21-May-2008 18:16:47] <locohost> can i load a url in a new window it hte zenevent commands?
[21-May-2008 18:31:18] <twm1010> anyone good with regular expressions? I got a newbie question
[21-May-2008 18:36:53] <twm1010> anyone?
[21-May-2008 18:40:00] <npmccallum> twm1010: shoot
[21-May-2008 18:40:23] <twm1010> at someone else's suggestion, I used this in my zInterfacemapignorenames
[21-May-2008 18:40:25] <twm1010> ^(unrouted|rif0|lo|VLAN-|sit|BRI|EFXS|Voice|Bearer)
[21-May-2008 18:40:37] <npmccallum> ok
[21-May-2008 18:40:46] <twm1010> Doesn't really seem to work like it should
[21-May-2008 18:40:59] <twm1010> Basically I want it to ignore any interface it finds, with any of those words in the string
[21-May-2008 18:41:15] <npmccallum> well, you are close
[21-May-2008 18:41:26] <twm1010> right now im thinking the brackets and the ^ need to go
[21-May-2008 18:41:37] <npmccallum> that regex will ignore any interface it finds that STARTS WITH any of the items
[21-May-2008 18:41:59] <twm1010> ok
[21-May-2008 18:42:05] <npmccallum> taking out the ^ will make it purely a substring match
[21-May-2008 18:42:05] <npmccallum> but you should probably keep the ^
[21-May-2008 18:42:14] <twm1010> i see... so i need an operator that means "contains" ?
[21-May-2008 18:43:27] <npmccallum> twm1010: lack of an operator indicates "contains"
[21-May-2008 18:43:35] <npmccallum> (at least in this pattern)
[21-May-2008 18:43:56] <twm1010> let me give it a try
[21-May-2008 18:44:23] <npmccallum> I should mention that the more specific pattern (ie. starts with) is preferred
[21-May-2008 18:44:54] <twm1010> Sure, but that would force me to get too specific
[21-May-2008 18:45:20] <twm1010> for instance right now, its identifying Serial0/0/0:11-Bearer Channel as an interface
[21-May-2008 18:45:53] <twm1010> because of course, it is one... but I'd have to define all the way up to Bearer so it doesn't drop the ones I do want
[21-May-2008 18:49:31] <twm1010> ok, here we go
[21-May-2008 18:49:33] <twm1010> if i did that right, i should go from 200 interfaces to like 15
[21-May-2008 18:49:33] <twm1010>
[21-May-2008 18:52:19] <twm1010> npmccallum: thanks, looks like you got me in the right direction now.
[21-May-2008 18:55:10] <npmccallum> twm1010: "Serial[0-9/:]*-Bearer Channel"
[21-May-2008 18:56:58] <twm1010> Why match the beginning of a string, as opposed to just something containing it?
[21-May-2008 18:59:25] <npmccallum> because you might have a false positive
[21-May-2008 18:59:50] <npmccallum> your match should be as stringent as possible and still catch everything
[21-May-2008 19:00:36] <npmccallum> also, wouldn't you probably want to have different zInterfacemapignorenames for different device types?
[21-May-2008 19:00:45] <twm1010> well yeah, im setting this particular one at /Network/Routers
[21-May-2008 19:00:51] <npmccallum> k
[21-May-2008 19:01:06] <twm1010> probably do it different for switches, and not at all for servers
[21-May-2008 19:01:07] <npmccallum> because ^lo doesn't really make much sense on Cisco devices
[21-May-2008 19:01:58] <twm1010> yeah, i think i put that in there for a linux box? maybe
[21-May-2008 19:02:01] <twm1010> However, i think that is catching "loopback"
[21-May-2008 19:02:46] <locohost> anyone have any good advice on creating audio alerts, im trying to write something on my own that pulls data out of the events table..would be nice if there was an easier, cleaner way to do it
[21-May-2008 19:06:41] <twm1010> im finding this to be very handy
http://gskinner.com/RegExr/[21-May-2008 19:06:55] <adytum-bot> Title: RegExr: Online Regular Expression Testing Tool (at gskinner.com)
[21-May-2008 19:44:35] <locohost> cool, put a link for what i call "alertbot4000" on the alerts tab, you click it and it opens in a new fox fire tab, and plays an audio alert every time you get a device down message
[21-May-2008 19:47:18] <locohost> it uses a zmysql method, to get the data right from the the events table
[21-May-2008 20:04:21] <locohost> anyone know where in the status table of hte events db it says if a an alert has been acked?
[21-May-2008 20:04:26] <locohost> im assuming its in there somewhere
[21-May-2008 23:15:53] <pat2man> anyone using the new deb package?
[21-May-2008 23:34:14] <rythmm> Hey guys I have just done a default install of zenoss on ubuntu, apt-get install zenoss-server. I navigate to http://localhost:8080/ - presents me with a login, how do i check the username/pass ?
[21-May-2008 23:34:15] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[21-May-2008 23:35:17] <pat2man> should be admin zenoss
[21-May-2008 23:36:26] <pat2man> I am getting this in my zeo.log: 2008-05-21T16:41:26 CRITICAL root restarting too frequently; quit
[21-May-2008 23:36:30] <pat2man> anyone have any ideas?
[21-May-2008 23:38:21] <rythmm> nice thanks
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[22-May-2008 06:42:39] <jaunty> Is someone able to help me out with a RPC_S_CALL_FAILED issue?
[22-May-2008 06:48:18] <jaunty> is the post on the forums saying that the failed RPC call error will always happen to windows machines on a subnet which is different from the Zenoss machine's subnet?
[22-May-2008 06:48:25] <jaunty> is that accurate?
[22-May-2008 08:34:49] <Gamekiller> ok i finanly getting all my zenoss setting in place
[22-May-2008 08:35:13] <Gamekiller> i was reading over the doc for 2.2 and i was trying to copy some stuff form CMD device list
[22-May-2008 08:35:46] <Gamekiller> and when trying to monitor linux via ssh i get error can not find zenplugin.py
[22-May-2008 08:36:14] <Gamekiller> or do i need to have the plug in name in place of that
[22-May-2008 08:38:04] <Gamekiller> any in put on this would be great
[22-May-2008 12:45:34] <mf2hd> hnngh
[22-May-2008 12:46:01] <mf2hd> migration to 2.2.0 was somewhat a pain in the ass but noq it's done
[22-May-2008 12:50:00] <monrad> i am wating a week before upgrading
[22-May-2008 12:50:06] <monrad> waiting
[22-May-2008 12:52:57] <mf2hd> wise decission
[22-May-2008 12:53:00] <mf2hd> was going to too
[22-May-2008 12:53:30] <mf2hd> but when i noticed that load of new core zenpacks i just had to upgrade
[22-May-2008 13:50:10] <jb> anyone here upgraded a 2.1 RPM install to a 2.2 native RPM?
[22-May-2008 13:50:18] <jb> (not the stack installer, just the RPM)
[22-May-2008 14:13:07] <jb> sweet. completely messed up everything.
[22-May-2008 14:43:30] <shoyt> good day everyone
[22-May-2008 14:43:50] <shoyt> does anyone know how to change the default timeout for WMI?
[22-May-2008 15:15:18] <soloman> hi
[22-May-2008 15:15:46] <soloman> new core ZenPacks doesn't install correctly.
[22-May-2008 15:16:02] <soloman> head: cannot open `/opt/zenoss/.manifest' for reading: No such file or directory
[22-May-2008 15:16:02] <soloman> Installing /opt/zenoss/packs/ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg...
[22-May-2008 15:16:02] <soloman> -bash: /opt/zenoss/bin/zenpack: No such file or directory
[22-May-2008 15:17:08] <soloman> I wonder why it tries to install to /opt/zenoss while 2.2 rpm install itself to /usr/local/zenoss
[22-May-2008 15:46:27] <richard> I installed the mysql core zenpack v2.2 via the web interface and its telling me "This pack is missing or broken. You may need to restart Zope." unfortunately restarting doesnt fix anything and I cant remove the pack from the ui as there is no checkbox noext to it. any ideas?
[22-May-2008 15:56:32] <richard> now LDAP is screwed in the same way. how do I manually delete them off the filesystem? cli and ui fail to remove them
[22-May-2008 16:05:23] <pat2man> is anyone else having issues with 2.2 when adding a new data source? it just gets stuck at loading....
[22-May-2008 16:09:25] <soloman> richard, this core pack tries to install itself to /opt/zenoss and if your installation is in /usr/local/zenoss it might cause error about broken package
[22-May-2008 16:14:12] <ghettodev> soloman: interesting. is there a parm I can pass to the installer to remove and reinstall to the my usr/local?
[22-May-2008 16:32:30] <soloman> ghettodev: I uninstalled it by simply removing /usr/local/zenoss and all zenoss start scripts in /etc/init.d /etc/rc.*
[22-May-2008 16:34:32] <ghettodev> i need to wipe out my zenoss install to get rid of the faulty zen pack?
[22-May-2008 16:36:57] <soloman> try zenpack --list
[22-May-2008 16:37:03] <soloman> and zenpack --remove
[22-May-2008 16:37:17] <soloman> to uninstall a zenpack
[22-May-2008 16:43:05] <mf2hd> 19:05 < pat2man> is anyone else having issues with 2.2 when adding a new data source? it just gets stuck at loading....
[22-May-2008 16:43:20] <mf2hd> yup, had that once. restarinz zenoss helped
[22-May-2008 16:43:34] <pat2man> mf2hd: yeah, just did that and it fixed it
[22-May-2008 16:43:35] <pat2man> thanks
[22-May-2008 16:43:52] <mf2hd> it logged something that wen't wrong though
[22-May-2008 16:44:10] <pat2man> now I just need to fix this issue: No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
[22-May-2008 16:44:27] <mf2hd> after that i had to restore and remigrate for another reason, so i don't really know that were there some prob in the first migration
[22-May-2008 16:45:40] <plaughlin> Anyone know if there's a way to alert if zenoss does NOT receive a passive event? ie syslog, snmp trap, xml-rpc..
[22-May-2008 16:46:32] <mf2hd> graph the events
[22-May-2008 16:46:37] <mf2hd> and make an threshold
[22-May-2008 16:46:46] <ghettodev> zenpack list shows three packs installed, when i try to remove the http and ldap I get python errors, when i try to trmove the mysql one it tells me it isnt installed. is there a way I can manually remove the packs from the filesystem?
[22-May-2008 16:47:24] <mf2hd> or just make zencommand that compares last syslog event and time
[22-May-2008 16:47:41] <plaughlin> mf2hd - i'll give that a shot. We currently have about 1200 of that type of passive check in nagios. Jobs report success. Anyone else?
[22-May-2008 16:51:04] <mf2hd> plaughlin: it seems that you are long term nagios user, so have you any experience with check_iseries?
[22-May-2008 16:51:26] <plaughlin> none -- we're not an IBM shop
[22-May-2008 16:51:34] <mf2hd> i gave it a shot yesterday and seems that it's not getting along with php5 very well
[22-May-2008 16:51:48] <mf2hd> well, we have several midranges
[22-May-2008 16:51:58] <plaughlin> what error are you seeing?
[22-May-2008 16:52:21] <mf2hd> allmost nothing, as/400 is so old that it does not support very well snmp
[22-May-2008 16:52:30] <plaughlin> ah
[22-May-2008 16:52:32] <plaughlin> gotta love that
[22-May-2008 16:52:34] <mf2hd> and that php script
[22-May-2008 16:52:48] <mf2hd> well, it seems that it does not work with the php5
[22-May-2008 16:52:58] <mf2hd> some undefined symbol err's and so on...
[22-May-2008 16:53:13] <mf2hd> ...while all the libs and stuff should be in it's place
[22-May-2008 16:53:36] <mf2hd> not at the work atm so can't paste
[22-May-2008 16:54:02] <plaughlin> problem is they changed the language syntax slightly between 4 and 5
[22-May-2008 16:54:52] <plaughlin> if you're failiar with php it should be trivial to fix
[22-May-2008 16:54:52] <plaughlin> familiar
[22-May-2008 16:55:13] <plaughlin> we've been interested in Zenoss for a couple years -- revisit the idea occasionally and seem to strike out every time with our passives
[22-May-2008 16:56:02] <mf2hd> oh
[22-May-2008 16:56:13] <mf2hd> i presumed that u had an active installation
[22-May-2008 16:56:16] <mf2hd> but anyway
[22-May-2008 16:56:21] <plaughlin> we do
[22-May-2008 16:56:49] <mf2hd> that prob of yours is maybe not solved out-of-the-box, but there's definetly more than one way to solve that
[22-May-2008 16:56:53] <plaughlin> but we have a lot of automated jobs that report in success -- nagios pages if a window is exceeded w/o a success
[22-May-2008 16:57:23] <mf2hd> well
[22-May-2008 16:57:58] <mf2hd> it's quite trivial to make an zencommand script for example that returns 0 or 1 within the results of the time window
[22-May-2008 16:58:57] <plaughlin> that doesn't seem like it would protect us if the process didn't report in for some reason
[22-May-2008 16:59:14] <mf2hd> umm...
[22-May-2008 17:00:04] <plaughlin> hey - i've not used zenoss much, in process installing it right now
[22-May-2008 17:00:11] <plaughlin> if i'm wrong I would happily admit it
[22-May-2008 17:00:19] <mf2hd> if command returns 1 everything is ok, if it returns 0 everything is not ok
[22-May-2008 17:00:21] <plaughlin> last install was ~6 mo. ago
[22-May-2008 17:00:33] <mf2hd> so, when u graph those 1 and 0's
[22-May-2008 17:00:57] <mf2hd> and make an threshold that gives alert when 0 is returned
[22-May-2008 17:01:09] <mf2hd> got it?
[22-May-2008 17:01:54] <mf2hd> can't give proper example from home, sorry
[22-May-2008 17:05:10] <pat2man> is this still the case? "MIBs are used in Zenoss for SNMP Trap parsing. They are not used when setting up the poller. This is something we will do in the future though."
[22-May-2008 17:06:08] <plaughlin> yeah -- i'll give that a shot mf2hd
[22-May-2008 17:07:06] <pat2man> and is that why i get (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 is bad) even though snmpget .1.3.6.1.4.1.22736.1.5.1.0 works just fine?
[22-May-2008 17:08:22] <mf2hd> pat2man: i'm having same kind of issue with one cisco router and with couple of APC ups
[22-May-2008 17:09:32] <pat2man> hmm, yeah, looks like I am getting lots of oid is bad errors
[22-May-2008 17:09:41] <pat2man> even on some basic things
[22-May-2008 17:09:55] <pat2man> like memAvailReal on a linux box
[22-May-2008 17:09:59] <pat2man> snmpget works fine though
[22-May-2008 17:10:04] <pat2man> *snmpget
[22-May-2008 17:12:30] <mf2hd> plaughlin: see this => http://www.zenoss.com/community/zen-of-zenoss/success-stories/webAJ
[22-May-2008 17:12:45] <adytum-bot> Title: webAJ - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-May-2008 17:12:46] <mf2hd> splunk & zenoss integration
[22-May-2008 17:13:43] <plaughlin> looking
[22-May-2008 17:14:04] <mf2hd> it seems that splunk would be one choice
[22-May-2008 17:14:42] <mf2hd> if i didn't get anything wrong... =)
[22-May-2008 17:15:32] <ghettodev> is there anyone here from zenoss?
[22-May-2008 17:16:59] <mf2hd> ghettodev: i would just remove everything for good, make reinstaal, zenrestore and zenmigrate
[22-May-2008 17:17:50] <ghettodev> i'm not sure that would help. I did a clean install on a new box two days ago
[22-May-2008 17:22:51] <pat2man> ghettodev: did you try re-installing the bad zenpacks?
[22-May-2008 17:25:39] <ghettodev> pat2man: I tried with the web ui and cli. web fails and th cli -list shows them as installed but 2 of them throw python errors and the third says it isnt installed
[22-May-2008 17:26:30] <ghettodev> pat2man: its messing up my modelling when i add devices so i'd like to remove them for now until i have time to sort out why they dont work
[22-May-2008 17:27:18] <pat2man> can you just unbind the template from your devices?
[22-May-2008 17:30:05] <ghettodev> sure but it would be cool to have it out of there. i have to pitch zenoss to my director this aft and I havent had a lot of time to get into the guts of it. would be nice not to have to explain why it says "This pack is missing or broken. You may need to restart Zope.". we have a couple hundred web and db servers so ideal sitch would be able to show him some pretty graphs
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[22-May-2008 17:41:10] <roadies> Does Zenoos support NETFlow? and if so, where does one look for it
[22-May-2008 18:22:07] <Bulwinkle> roadies: no
[22-May-2008 18:27:29] <roadies> Bulwinkle...thanks...
[22-May-2008 18:39:39] <soloman> when I try to bind standart template FileSystem I get zenoss error Value: totalBlocks when I go to perf tab
[22-May-2008 18:39:49] <soloman> anybody knows what is the issue?
[22-May-2008 18:43:52] <shoyt> soloman......did you modify the default template?
[22-May-2008 18:44:02] <soloman> no
[22-May-2008 18:44:10] <shoyt> and is it Windows or Linux?
[22-May-2008 18:44:32] <soloman> Linux Fedora 6 zenoss 2.2
[22-May-2008 18:46:00] <shoyt> there shouldn't be a totalBlocks value in the template
[22-May-2008 18:46:08] <shoyt> only usedBlocks
[22-May-2008 18:46:36] <soloman> there only usedBlocks
[22-May-2008 18:47:11] <shoyt> what is the exact error when you click Perf?
[22-May-2008 18:47:23] <shoyt> and does it happen for all devices?
[22-May-2008 18:47:37] <soloman> but the error is Type: AttributeError Value: totalBlocks
[22-May-2008 18:47:52] <soloman> it happens for my test linux device
[22-May-2008 18:48:00] <soloman> linux server
[22-May-2008 18:48:12] <shoyt> are you missing any data after the discovery?
[22-May-2008 18:48:51] <soloman> what discovery? I manually added my linux server
[22-May-2008 18:50:29] <shoyt> right......is there any data missing?
[22-May-2008 18:50:36] <soloman> I installed zenoss from zenoss-stack rpm and added this linux server.
[22-May-2008 18:50:56] <shoyt> try adding another server and see if you get the same result
[22-May-2008 18:51:06] <soloman> how can I find out if there's a data missing?
[22-May-2008 18:51:08] <shoyt> if you do, try removing it and re-adding it
[22-May-2008 18:51:27] <soloman> I tried another - the same result
[22-May-2008 18:51:33] <shoyt> when you click on Status, do you see any blank fields
[22-May-2008 18:52:00] <soloman> also i tried to remove and bind again - no luck
[22-May-2008 18:52:05] <soloman> Status work ok
[22-May-2008 18:52:48] <shoyt> did you install the core zenpack rpm?
[22-May-2008 18:54:10] <soloman> it can't be installed. Because zenoss-stack.rpm installed itself to /usr/local/zenoss and zenpack rpm tries to install to /opt/zenoss
[22-May-2008 18:55:29] <shoyt> that's a problem
[22-May-2008 18:55:51] <shoyt> check you daemons to see if they're all running
[22-May-2008 18:56:29] <soloman> they are all running
[22-May-2008 18:58:49] <soloman> standard template ethernetCsmacd causes similar issues
[22-May-2008 18:59:09] <soloman> zenoss 2.2 seems very untested
[22-May-2008 18:59:20] <shoyt> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14712
[22-May-2008 18:59:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - binding device and filesystem templates results in error (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-May-2008 19:01:24] <soloman> thank you that is the solution
[22-May-2008 20:39:38] <djs26> Hello, is this the zenoss that is the monitoring software?
[22-May-2008 20:42:28] <mrayzenoss> yes
[22-May-2008 21:07:05] <troy> afternoon
[22-May-2008 21:22:18] <mrayzenoss> howdy Troy
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[22-May-2008 21:26:41] <troy> grr
[22-May-2008 21:26:46] * troy curses his curses client
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[23-May-2008 05:23:29] <mf2hd> hehe, just called to employees healtcare
[23-May-2008 05:23:47] <mf2hd> told me that i've stopped working for my emp 2 months ago
[23-May-2008 05:24:17] <mf2hd> asked my boss that "is my paycheck still running, should i be conserned?"
[23-May-2008 06:28:16] <locohost> heh
[23-May-2008 06:28:20] <locohost> taht sucks
[23-May-2008 06:29:26] <locohost> i used to have a friend who got a letter from the irs about the estate of her deceased husband/demanding death tax
[23-May-2008 06:29:30] <locohost> but,...he was not dead
[23-May-2008 06:49:39] <mf2hd> hehe
[23-May-2008 08:46:09] <Moranah> hello
[23-May-2008 08:47:48] <Moranah> oh hai?
[23-May-2008 08:50:54] <Moranah> nevermind, I got my question answered, thanks for your support :>
[23-May-2008 09:02:47] <mf2hd> be welcome
[23-May-2008 09:02:49] <mf2hd>
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[23-May-2008 14:49:00] <mib_883y1x> Error occured: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): Products.ZenHub.PBDaemon.RemoteException: Remote exception: exceptions.AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/PBDaemon.py", line 46, in inner return callable(*args, **kw) File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/services/ThresholdMixin.py", line
[23-May-2008 14:49:19] <mib_883y1x> can anyone tell me what this error means?
[23-May-2008 16:25:08] <soloman> why my Last Collection value is always 1970/01/01 ?
[23-May-2008 16:25:19] <soloman> all the rest works ok
[23-May-2008 16:25:27] <soloman> including SNMP
[23-May-2008 16:25:33] <soloman> anobody knows?
[23-May-2008 16:33:47] <flo234> hi there! is there a zenoss-dev with a little time to answer some questions to me?
[23-May-2008 16:36:26] <flo234> is someone familiar with the zenoss-python code?
[23-May-2008 17:27:09] <twm1010> howdhowdy
[23-May-2008 17:46:00] <soloman> why my Last Collection value is always 1970/01/01 ? but SNMP is working ok
[23-May-2008 18:13:51] <twm1010> last model or last collection
[23-May-2008 18:14:03] <twm1010> ::waves:: @ mray
[23-May-2008 18:55:43] <malexherron> hey all
[23-May-2008 18:56:22] <twm1010> hey there
[23-May-2008 18:56:38] <malexherron> wondering if anyone can help me: i just upgraded to 2.2 and have no idea how to transfer all the data from my previous version (2.1.3)
[23-May-2008 18:56:46] <malexherron> sorry for the newbie question :/
[23-May-2008 18:56:54] <twm1010> i'm working on that myself, there is a command line utility called ZenBackup
[23-May-2008 18:57:16] <twm1010> I would assume this is a backup of the ZOPE database, and all your historical data
[23-May-2008 18:57:45] <malexherron> right... i backed up a tarball to my tmp directory... i dont get how to implement it in the new version... you have any luck?
[23-May-2008 18:58:06] <twm1010> Not really no, I'm taking my backup right now
[23-May-2008 18:59:00] <twm1010> my attempt at a backup timed out...
[23-May-2008 18:59:03] <malexherron> i think ZenMigrate is involved somehow... but i get some weird errors cuz the script uses relative pathnames... i have something posted to the forums... ill let you know if i find anything useful
[23-May-2008 18:59:12] <twm1010> ok
[23-May-2008 18:59:20] <malexherron> happy hunting
[23-May-2008 18:59:25] <twm1010> If I can get my Zenpack issue fixed, I won't have to do this
[23-May-2008 18:59:44] <twm1010> though, I'm thinking at this point, of just using a new 2.2VM fresh install, and re-doing everything
[23-May-2008 18:59:50] <twm1010> a pain in the ass for sure, but clean.
[23-May-2008 19:01:34] <malexherron> lol yeah they released 2.2 on THE DAY i finished loading my entire network... so im trying to avoid that doing it fresh at all costs..
[23-May-2008 19:02:47] <twm1010> Yep, I've got ALOT of customized stuff on mine...
[23-May-2008 19:03:13] <twm1010> though, what I plan to do is bring up a second VM, and just mimic the settings... all the ground/footwork is done.
[23-May-2008 19:04:36] <malexherron> hey thats not a bad idea... might copy you on that
[23-May-2008 19:07:09] <twm1010> Except the mirror for the appliance download is running @ 5KB/sec...
[23-May-2008 19:07:15] <twm1010> guess i'll wait till the weekend
[23-May-2008 19:07:47] <malexherron> or July
[23-May-2008 19:07:52] <malexherron>
[23-May-2008 19:09:38] <mrayzenoss> I actually had a discussion with the community manager for SourceForge about adding BitTorrent
[23-May-2008 19:10:27] <mrayzenoss> it's something they're looking into
[23-May-2008 19:11:28] <malexherron> i've never found torrents to be much faster... nice that bit verifies the file though...
[23-May-2008 19:17:25] <mrayzenoss> well, we discussed the fact that there are already lots of different SF mirrors, so they could have several of them act as seeders
[23-May-2008 19:17:37] <mrayzenoss> so each file would have 10+ seeders already when you connect
[23-May-2008 19:17:44] <mrayzenoss> so it would be blazing fast
[23-May-2008 19:18:08] <twm1010> indeed... good idea!
[23-May-2008 19:18:09] <mrayzenoss> assuming they got buy-in from lots of their mirrors
[23-May-2008 19:43:59] <donspaulding> I just installed the zenoss-stack package from the zenoss repo on a debian server and started it up with invoke-rc.d, what's the default url for the admin?
[23-May-2008 19:44:28] <twm1010> http://ip:8080
[23-May-2008 19:44:36] <twm1010> username admin pw zenoss
[23-May-2008 19:45:41] <donspaulding> twm1010: ouch, 500 error right off the bat.
[23-May-2008 19:45:52] <twm1010> doh
[23-May-2008 19:46:38] <donspaulding> zenoss web logs?
[23-May-2008 19:49:40] <donspaulding> totally fresh install of etch (4.0), nothing else on the box, weird.
[23-May-2008 19:54:49] <mrayzenoss> what does "zenoss status" return?
[23-May-2008 19:58:09] <malexherron> hey mray... have you seen this type of thing before?
[23-May-2008 19:58:11] <malexherron> ./zenmigrate: line 15: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[23-May-2008 19:58:29] <malexherron> zenfunctions is in the bin dir
[23-May-2008 19:59:13] <malexherron> also ./zenoss status returns no such file or dir... which, suffice to say, is bull excrement
[23-May-2008 19:59:20] <donspaulding> hrmm, in /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/log/event.log: 2008-05-23T19:17:21 ERROR Zope Couldn't install Five
[23-May-2008 19:59:50] <mrayzenoss> malexherron: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18354
[23-May-2008 20:00:02] <malexherron> thank you kindly
[23-May-2008 20:00:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenbackup Help (at community.zenoss.com)
[23-May-2008 20:03:45] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: nothing else running? That's odd
[23-May-2008 20:04:13] <twm1010> don: is MySQL started?
[23-May-2008 20:05:08] <donspaulding> twm1010: yes, at least it's listening on 3307
[23-May-2008 20:05:35] <mrayzenoss> and zenoss status says everything is running?
[23-May-2008 20:05:54] <donspaulding> the invoke-rc.d zenoss-stack start seemed to go smoothly, but I have a traceback that's eerily similar to this: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-dev/2007/000281.html
[23-May-2008 20:06:34] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: no, I get a Daemon: zeoctl Traceback
[23-May-2008 20:06:54] <donspaulding> ImportError: /usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/md5.so: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
[23-May-2008 20:07:21] <mrayzenoss> from "zenoss status"? awesome
[23-May-2008 20:07:26] <donspaulding> yep
[23-May-2008 20:07:47] <donspaulding> and for zopectl: None or no argument seeds from current time or from an operating
[23-May-2008 20:08:39] <donspaulding> full traceback .... http://dpaste.com/52334/
[23-May-2008 20:08:46] <adytum-bot> Title: dpaste: #52334: by Don Spaulding (at dpaste.com)
[23-May-2008 20:10:14] <mrayzenoss> take a look at this thread http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4567&highlight=cpersistence+undefined&sid=6ff85ca29118562854d1ee7f41dfc9e4
[23-May-2008 20:10:44] <mrayzenoss> and this thread: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20114
[23-May-2008 20:11:00] <mrayzenoss> even though it's not an upgrade, it's Debian debugging
[23-May-2008 20:11:09] <twm1010> this jason character is quite patient with me, i'm tempted to mail him a bottle of Jack D.
[23-May-2008 20:11:31] <mrayzenoss>
[23-May-2008 20:11:39] <mrayzenoss> he's one of our developers
[23-May-2008 20:12:00] <mrayzenoss> I send him lots of questions myself
[23-May-2008 20:12:23] <twm1010> I'm scheming right now, to build a second appliance... a much cleaner one... and move my stuff over to it
[23-May-2008 20:12:36] <twm1010> That was my zenpack issue, is a non-issue
[23-May-2008 20:13:00] <twm1010> Right now I'm trying to figure out what zenbackup actually backs up
[23-May-2008 20:13:11] <twm1010> because, i think there is a lot of it I would NOT want to move over...
[23-May-2008 20:15:52] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I think there's a way to do that
[23-May-2008 20:16:00] <mrayzenoss> let me know if you see it
[23-May-2008 20:16:32] <mrayzenoss> Chapter 22 of the Admin Guide
[23-May-2008 20:17:25] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: if you're still stuck, I'd say hit the forums. They're still watching for 2.2 issues
[23-May-2008 20:18:02] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: I assume it's all the right 32-bit vs. 64-bit DEBs?
[23-May-2008 20:18:22] <twm1010> speaking of that admin guide, how about a bookmarked index
[23-May-2008 20:18:26] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: I didn't specify
[23-May-2008 20:18:43] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I've been harping about that for awhile.
[23-May-2008 20:18:44] * donspaulding hates forums
[23-May-2008 20:18:47] <mrayzenoss> I'm gonna go open a ticket
[23-May-2008 20:18:55] * donspaulding loves getting help though
[23-May-2008 20:18:58] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: well, you can do them as mailing lists as well
[23-May-2008 20:19:09] <mrayzenoss> they're cross-posted, so you can use either interface
[23-May-2008 20:19:15] <mrayzenoss> I use mail myself
[23-May-2008 20:19:16] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: sweet
[23-May-2008 20:19:28] <twm1010> Ahh see... this wouldn't help me then, because I would not want to move over the zope database, just my performance data
[23-May-2008 20:20:10] <twm1010> I'll be geeking it up all weekend... we're doing migrations and such, maybe I'll get some reading done
[23-May-2008 20:20:16] <mrayzenoss> hmmmm... post it on the forums, I bet someone knows a bit more than me.
[23-May-2008 20:20:20] <pat2man> twm1010: you could probably just copy the performance data manually
[23-May-2008 20:21:15] <twm1010> Yep, I can, just want to make sure I give everything the same names.... etc...
[23-May-2008 20:21:35] <pat2man> ah, yeah
[23-May-2008 20:21:42] <twm1010> I've started over before, not a big deal. At least I don't have to go to all 200 servers and routers and setup SNMP again
[23-May-2008 20:22:14] <twm1010> some of it I automated, some I didn't
[23-May-2008 20:22:51] <pat2man> anyone been getting these issues: Error reading value for "memAvailReal" on <server> (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0 is bad)
[23-May-2008 20:23:19] <pat2man> but this works fine: snmpget -c public -v 2c <server> 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0
[23-May-2008 20:25:21] <mrayzenoss> later everyone, gotta go work
[23-May-2008 20:26:31] <twm1010> Thats kind of odd
[23-May-2008 20:26:49] <twm1010> what kind of server is it trying to poll
[23-May-2008 20:27:06] <pat2man> its a fedora box
[23-May-2008 20:27:42] <twm1010> well if the get works, but the one in the template does not, i'd call that a bug
[23-May-2008 20:28:06] <pat2man> I am pretty sure it worked in 2.1.x
[23-May-2008 20:28:32] <pat2man> i would file a bug but its pretty vague, especially since it works on other servers
[23-May-2008 20:29:27] <twm1010> yes, quite odd
[23-May-2008 20:29:37] <twm1010> try stopping and starting the SNMP service on that box thats doing it
[23-May-2008 20:30:04] <twm1010> im out! later...
[23-May-2008 20:31:14] <malexherron> hey... any idea why zenmib would skip over certain MIBs
[23-May-2008 20:33:19] <malexherron> forget it
[23-May-2008 20:34:51] <pat2man> well for anyone who cares about my above issue, I deleted the device, re-added it and everything is fine
[23-May-2008 20:36:05] <malexherron> weird
[23-May-2008 20:36:15] <malexherron> good to know
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[23-May-2008 21:24:43] <malexherron> doing a zenrestore... pray for me
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[23-May-2008 21:29:44] * pat2man prays
[23-May-2008 21:32:40] <malexherron> pat2man: lol thanks
[23-May-2008 21:44:12] <donspaulding> huh, I just had too little memory allocated to zenoss.
[23-May-2008 21:44:24] <donspaulding> apparently 512 ain't enough for what it does.
[23-May-2008 21:57:52] <malexherron> donspaulding: what'd you change it to?
[23-May-2008 21:57:59] <malexherron> > 1gb?
[23-May-2008 21:58:19] <donspaulding> just 1GB
[23-May-2008 21:58:59] <malexherron> cool good to know... have a good three day weekend.. im looking forward to not htinking about this for a few days
[23-May-2008 22:03:56] <donspaulding> hrm, now I'm getting a "Cannot communicate with server" error on the device list page.
[23-May-2008 22:18:58] <donspaulding> oh, and that was just the /etc/hosts issue. I'm up and running :-D
[23-May-2008 22:19:04] <donspaulding> later folks!
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[25-May-2008 04:46:16] <troy> hark
[25-May-2008 04:46:39] <djs> hark?
[25-May-2008 04:46:52] <troy> just hark
[25-May-2008 04:47:01] <djs> Indeed
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[25-May-2008 04:48:04] <troy42> how's your evening been?
[25-May-2008 04:48:09] <troy42> timezone permitting
[25-May-2008 04:48:52] <djs> EST here.
[25-May-2008 04:49:03] <djs> It has bee nice. Taco Bell for din din.
[25-May-2008 04:49:29] <djs> Dorky TV movie on the tele, and playing with my new supybot.
[25-May-2008 04:51:09] <troy42> what's (s)he do?
[25-May-2008 04:52:27] <djs> He, I think, and lots.
[25-May-2008 04:52:53] <djs> Games, insults, googling, chanops, etc.
[25-May-2008 05:00:27] <troy42> fun
[25-May-2008 05:01:25] <djs> Yeah, I am enjoying it so far.
[25-May-2008 05:01:31] <djs> On 4 channels already.
[25-May-2008 05:02:58] <troy42> [22:02] <#include/troy> sheepie, raep?
[25-May-2008 05:02:58] <troy42> [22:02] <#include/sheepie> I'M GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATE RED DWARF SHOWING AT MY HOUSE TOMORROW NIGHT AND YOU'RE ALL
[25-May-2008 05:02:58] <troy42> INVITED. YOU BRING THE DALEKS.
[25-May-2008 05:03:03] <troy42> ^ a favorite bot of mine
[25-May-2008 05:03:38] <djs> o_0
[25-May-2008 05:03:45] <troy42> replete with retina-scarring ascii art on command
[25-May-2008 05:05:04] <djs> EEk
[25-May-2008 05:08:29] <djs> Had the whole goatse db linked, eh?
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[26-May-2008 13:16:50] <aurax> hello
[26-May-2008 13:16:52] <aurax> anyone around ?
[26-May-2008 13:17:16] <aurax> i have a fast question regarding to reset ip, i have a lot of machines in my network using dhcp but zenoss does not try to update the new ip's automatically....
[26-May-2008 13:17:19] <aurax> any idea how to fix it ?
[26-May-2008 13:27:59] <aurax> so is there a way to tell zenoss to resolve hosts to ip's every x seconds ?
[26-May-2008 13:34:09] <MrTux> try rerunning the modeler
[26-May-2008 13:34:20] <MrTux> and reset the deviceip before
[26-May-2008 14:22:21] <aurax> is there a way to automate it ?
[26-May-2008 21:54:31] <TM4> No data in perf graphs monitoring win2k3 box, any common ideas I may have missed?
[26-May-2008 22:05:00] <npmccallum> anyone know how to, in zendmd, get an object by its path?
[26-May-2008 22:09:44] <npmccallum> magnachef: ^^^ ?
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[27-May-2008 09:45:52] <kop_> is there any way to apply methods to TALES stuff?
[27-May-2008 09:47:05] <kop_> for example, I'd like to apply .trim() to a ${here/property}
[27-May-2008 10:13:40] <kop_> (no)
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[27-May-2008 13:08:27] <kop_> idle idle
[27-May-2008 13:08:46] <kop_> I wish the devs were closer to europe
)[27-May-2008 13:09:39] <MrTux> kop_: i wish the devs were closer to earth
[27-May-2008 13:53:54] <npmccallum> anyone know anything about expanding the ZopeDB in a ZenPack?
[27-May-2008 14:00:02] <npmccallum> Basically I want to create a new set of items (like a userCommand) in the tree and have a page to manage them
[27-May-2008 14:00:21] <npmccallum> I assume that I need a new subclass of ZenModelRM...
[27-May-2008 14:34:40] <jp10558> I'm trying to set event severity on a filesystem via a script in the Filesystem Transform tab, as suggested on http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch10s15.html under 15.4. Event Transforms Based on Device Class. The problem I'm having is I'm trying to do more than one change, but the script doesn't seem to work
[27-May-2008 14:34:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 14:35:05] <jp10558> I'm sort of trying to hack around needing different thresholds for different filesystems ....
[27-May-2008 14:35:12] <jp10558> anyone have any better ideas?
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[27-May-2008 15:00:58] <kop_> jp10558: huh
[27-May-2008 15:05:47] <kop_> jp10558: any exceptions in the logfile?
[27-May-2008 15:07:11] <kop_> jp10558: remember that you can create any custom property for any device (like myFSThreshold) and use that in the transform
[27-May-2008 16:23:15] <garnica> What would you do to get all defined devices in Zenoss from a command line ?
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[27-May-2008 17:07:46] <kop_> garnica: google
[27-May-2008 17:07:59] <garnica> ok kop_
[27-May-2008 17:08:54] <jb> anyone here monitoring windows devices?
[27-May-2008 17:08:55] <kop_> [d.name for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices()]
[27-May-2008 17:09:02] <kop_> or something like that
[27-May-2008 17:09:39] <kop_> garnica: you probably want to use zendmd, given that you want it programatically
[27-May-2008 17:09:53] <jb> having issues with windows devices.. no errors in the model that I can see (wmi seems to be working fine).. but no graphs are being made, no winservices, etc
[27-May-2008 17:10:04] <kop_> garnica: otherwise there's probably some report under /Reports that will provide you with a list
[27-May-2008 17:10:36] <garnica> yeah I was trying zendmd
[27-May-2008 17:11:24] <jsm> i'm getting errors when starting a fresh 2.2.0 install... when starting the zenoss-stack daemon i get the following: http://rafb.net/p/qlnq0y65.html
[27-May-2008 17:11:31] <jsm> end result is nothing is running on 8080
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[27-May-2008 17:23:33] <jb> ok its definetely not WMI.
[27-May-2008 17:23:41] <jb> someone here must be monitoring windows?
[27-May-2008 17:32:23] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading config for devices
[27-May-2008 17:34:03] <jb> man the search on the forums really sucks
[27-May-2008 18:01:52] <jp10558> kop_: sorry, I ran away... Which logfile ought I look in?
[27-May-2008 18:02:16] <jp10558> jb:
[27-May-2008 18:02:33] <jp10558> Make sure you have Informant installed on the Windows machines
[27-May-2008 18:37:56] <magnachef> when using HttpMonitor zenpack, is there a way to monitor the site via the default size and time, but also do a port 80 check on the domain?
[27-May-2008 18:38:32] <`m3> what is the default size and time ?
[27-May-2008 18:38:50] <magnachef> those are the default metrics that come with the ZenPack
[27-May-2008 18:38:54] <magnachef> they're just data sources
[27-May-2008 18:39:24] <magnachef> but I'd like to also have it test port 80 as well
[27-May-2008 18:39:36] <magnachef> like a traditional IPService check
[27-May-2008 18:39:40] <`m3> not sure not using the http-monitor
[27-May-2008 18:39:58] <`m3> i know IP services portscan plugin does that tho
[27-May-2008 18:40:04] <magnachef> yeah, I just started using it today
[27-May-2008 18:40:08] <`m3> you might need both to achieve what you want
[27-May-2008 18:40:23] <magnachef> yeah, I'm wondering if I need to also bind the device template as well
[27-May-2008 18:40:39] <magnachef> or make another template to do the port checking
[27-May-2008 18:40:43] <magnachef> ...not sure though
[27-May-2008 18:40:51] <`m3> yeh perf templates are a bit mysterious i have to get more practice
[27-May-2008 18:42:30] <magnachef> does anyone know if I need to bind another template to get the port checking capability to my website check
[27-May-2008 18:42:31] <`m3> i cant make sense of it after reading the docs
[27-May-2008 18:42:31] <`m3> i get events like http ( 80) down on device xxxx
[27-May-2008 18:42:33] <`m3> with the ip services portscan collector
[27-May-2008 18:42:39] <`m3> you prob want to do it the easy way, so use that collector
[27-May-2008 18:43:21] <`m3> i dont believe templates have any thing to do with what services are monitored
[27-May-2008 18:43:35] <`m3> just for performance graphing, thats my understanding
[27-May-2008 18:43:50] <`m3> collectors == what collects the data
[27-May-2008 18:44:08] <`m3> the template is used for making graphs etc
[27-May-2008 18:44:34] <magnachef> in the httpmonitor docs, it tells you to unbind the default template so that you're not monitoring via ping, etc
[27-May-2008 18:45:02] <`m3> maybe i am misunderstand the concept then !
[27-May-2008 18:48:32] <`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch07s07.html
[27-May-2008 18:48:36] <`m3> might be helpful
[27-May-2008 18:48:42] <`m3> docs have improved ;p
[27-May-2008 18:48:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> improved docs would be a god-send
[27-May-2008 18:50:19] <`m3> yeh ok , i get it now, if you specify a zDeviceTemplates you over ride the defaults, but id love to see a practical example of binding
[27-May-2008 18:51:24] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[27-May-2008 18:51:30] <`m3> but i think my understanding of how it works is right, the zproperty for zDeviceTemplates is new to me, but thats all
[27-May-2008 18:51:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 18:53:31] <`m3> i dont get the choices i expect ,when i try to bind, only mysql etc are bindable
[27-May-2008 18:53:49] <`m3> havnt got my zenoss installation in front of me to explain
[27-May-2008 18:54:25] <`m3> pretty sure something is broken on my setup though, with regards to perf monitoring
[27-May-2008 18:54:32] <`m3> some missing RRD files etc
[27-May-2008 19:04:52] <jb> is anyone here monitoring windows hosts? I am having a problem with no graphs/perf tab working..
[27-May-2008 19:05:09] <jb> (snmp informant is installed)
[27-May-2008 19:05:26] <`m3> jb: do you have snmp / wmi enabled ?
[27-May-2008 19:06:03] <`m3> what collector plugins do you have configured for server/windows class ?
[27-May-2008 19:06:15] <`m3> are the devices modelling correctly ?
[27-May-2008 19:06:22] <jb> yeah
[27-May-2008 19:06:24] <jb> no model errors
[27-May-2008 19:06:34] <jb> snmp/wmi works fine.. i am monitoring windows services with no issues
[27-May-2008 19:06:44] <jb> all other stats are populated.. filesystems/hardware/routes/etc
[27-May-2008 19:06:52] <jb> the Perf tab has a ZenOSS error
[27-May-2008 19:07:01] <jb> and the ethernet graphs just say that they are missing RRds
[27-May-2008 19:07:04] <`m3> tried tailing $ZENHOME/log/zen*perf*
[27-May-2008 19:07:18] <`m3> yes i have the same ! only for some devices tho
[27-May-2008 19:07:30] <jb> yeah ive tried
[27-May-2008 19:07:34] <jb> there is an error
[27-May-2008 19:07:37] <jb> but I can't make any sense of it
[27-May-2008 19:07:39] <`m3> hoping to get to the bottom of it tonight, if you get success let me know , iwill do same
[27-May-2008 19:07:41] <`m3> whats the error
[27-May-2008 19:08:06] <jb> sec
[27-May-2008 19:08:50] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1031282
[27-May-2008 19:08:57] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1031282 (at pastebin.ca)
[27-May-2008 19:08:59] <jb> thats when I click "perf" for any device in /Server/Windows
[27-May-2008 19:09:45] <`m3> might be the zeodb out of whack, theres a script out on the web to reindex it
[27-May-2008 19:10:00] <`m3> i would make yourself a script, i called it cleanzen.sh
[27-May-2008 19:10:37] <`m3> stop zenoss remove .pickle / other (*cache files cant remember ), start zenoss, reindex the zeo db
[27-May-2008 19:11:00] <jb> hm
[27-May-2008 19:11:06] <crow> .zec
[27-May-2008 19:11:10] <`m3> indeed
[27-May-2008 19:12:08] <jb> alright lets try that
[27-May-2008 19:12:08] <jb> sec
[27-May-2008 19:12:13] <`m3> yes that error doesnt mean much to me either jb
[27-May-2008 19:12:16] <jb> how do you reindex the deb?
[27-May-2008 19:12:17] <jb> db
[27-May-2008 19:12:26] <`m3> trying to find the exact source
[27-May-2008 19:12:37] <`m3> otherwise i copy send you it tomorrow
[27-May-2008 19:13:20] <jb> k
[27-May-2008 19:13:47] <jb> odd.. did the 2.2 upgrade change the mysql db password/
[27-May-2008 19:13:48] <jb> ?
[27-May-2008 19:14:15] <`m3> i didnt upgrade ;p
[27-May-2008 19:14:30] <`m3> waiting for enterprise version
[27-May-2008 19:14:39] <crow> same
[27-May-2008 19:14:57] <`m3> how are your perf templates crow
[27-May-2008 19:15:06] <crow> specifically?
[27-May-2008 19:16:17] <jb> whats your reasoning for upgrading to enterprise?
[27-May-2008 19:16:19] <jb> just curious
[27-May-2008 19:16:25] <`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossannouncement.2008-04-08.3248712225
[27-May-2008 19:16:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Core 2.1.90 (Zenoss 2.2 Beta 1) Available for Download - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[27-May-2008 19:16:44] <`m3> that kinda implies the template stuff is buggy
[27-May-2008 19:17:16] <`m3> jb: its a work thing, we dont mind paying for vendor support when its important to us
[27-May-2008 19:17:25] <crow> templates have been fine. mostly dealing with occasional performance issues
[27-May-2008 19:17:26] <`m3> time = money and all
[27-May-2008 19:17:39] <`m3> crow: cool, i noticed it needs serious HP
[27-May-2008 19:17:48] <crow> very serious
[27-May-2008 19:17:54] <`m3> ran like a dog with 4 cpu and 4gb ram
[27-May-2008 19:18:00] <crow> I've got big servers choking
[27-May-2008 19:18:09] <jb> `m3: so, did you guys work out a price?
[27-May-2008 19:18:13] <`m3> its running better on seperate raid controllers and 8 proc 8 gb ram
[27-May-2008 19:18:18] <jb> surely you aren't paying what is posted on the website..
[27-May-2008 19:18:21] <`m3> jb: didnt get involved at that level
[27-May-2008 19:18:30] <`m3> just the tech
[27-May-2008 19:18:48] <`m3> i dont think its cheap
[27-May-2008 19:18:50] <jb> im monitoring ~100 devices right now on a single xeon 3.06ghz with 2gb ram
[27-May-2008 19:18:55] <jb> but im about to put it on a beefier box..
[27-May-2008 19:19:03] <crow> yeah, I dont do the money stuff
[27-May-2008 19:19:13] <`m3> i had all sorts of issues just because it wasnt on a big enough box
[27-May-2008 19:19:26] <crow> it likes a lot of RAM. Depending on the number of OIDs you collect there is significant disk IO
[27-May-2008 19:19:28] <`m3> its stable enough to work on fast now
[27-May-2008 19:19:33] <jb> no perf issues really
[27-May-2008 19:19:38] <jb> how many devices?
[27-May-2008 19:19:40] <crow> a lot of RAM gives you a decent disk buffer
[27-May-2008 19:22:12] <crow> the number of OIDS and the frequency of polling is the number to watch out for, especially with large switches and VLANs
[27-May-2008 19:22:38] <`m3> thats probably why i had search crap perf
[27-May-2008 19:22:58] <`m3> doesnt help that the modeller goes fuck nuts and models foreign stuff by default ;p
[27-May-2008 19:23:19] <`m3> such , not search*
[27-May-2008 19:23:19] <crow> What do you mean by foreign?
[27-May-2008 19:23:39] <`m3> well if my stuff is in 10.10.x.x
[27-May-2008 19:23:54] <`m3> the modeller starts finding internet addresses
[27-May-2008 19:24:09] <`m3> because of other connections, vpns etc
[27-May-2008 19:24:19] <crow> if you have a lot of devices you could break out dedicated pollers.
[27-May-2008 19:24:24] <`m3> i guess i am running the routes collector maps etc , and thats why
[27-May-2008 19:24:41] <`m3> yes i am considering a collector only device
[27-May-2008 19:24:49] <`m3> i did install one to test it all out
[27-May-2008 19:25:01] <jb> oh, im not monitoring any switches with zen..
[27-May-2008 19:25:30] <`m3> i just let the modeller go nuts and ended up modeller pretty much everything
[27-May-2008 19:25:31] <jp10558> I've looked in all the logs
[27-May-2008 19:25:43] <jp10558> and I've not found anything about errors with the transform
[27-May-2008 19:25:53] <jp10558> Maybe I just don't understand the instructions for this
[27-May-2008 19:25:59] <`m3> jp10558: tricky one
[27-May-2008 19:26:11] <`m3> dont apply transforms at event level if you can help it
[27-May-2008 19:26:24] <`m3> there is also a place to put transforms at the class level
[27-May-2008 19:26:55] <`m3> use that instead, especially if you dont have a component in your event
[27-May-2008 19:27:23] <`m3> in fact, your transform will fail at event level with no component in that event
[27-May-2008 19:28:13] <jb> transforms are tricky
[27-May-2008 19:28:52] <jb> but damnit, i still can't get the windows perf tab working
[27-May-2008 19:29:32] <`m3> i am just building a new zenoss core machine to do it again from scratch
[27-May-2008 19:29:34] <jp10558> Hmmm, ok. So here's what I'm trying to do - I want to make certain filesystems threshold differently than others on the same system, as some are system, others data ...
[27-May-2008 19:29:39] <`m3> need this perf stuff cracked
[27-May-2008 19:29:43] <jb> yeah me too
[27-May-2008 19:29:46] <`m3> i opened a ticket with zenoss too
[27-May-2008 19:29:47] <jb> theres no way im rebuilding from scratch
[27-May-2008 19:29:55] <`m3> so one way or the other its gonna get solved
[27-May-2008 19:30:00] <`m3> me either
[27-May-2008 19:30:10] <jb> i thought about installing a new 2.2, and seeing if it worked
[27-May-2008 19:30:12] <jp10558> Are there any info on the class level transforms?
[27-May-2008 19:30:12] <`m3> installing core localy to test is one thing
[27-May-2008 19:30:14] <jb> i'll try that if you are too..
[27-May-2008 19:30:21] <jp10558> as I was just goiing by the admin guide
[27-May-2008 19:30:24] <`m3> but i got nearly 2k devices going
[27-May-2008 19:30:28] <jb> i have a VM i can use here..
[27-May-2008 19:31:02] <jb> let me know how that goes m3
[27-May-2008 19:31:32] <`m3> will do
[27-May-2008 19:32:18] <`m3> jp10558: same transform, just look for the transform where you get modeller etc in the left menu
[27-May-2008 19:32:39] <`m3> i mean the same python transform
[27-May-2008 19:34:28] <crow> we found that performance really drops off around 1500 devices. we try to keep <2000 per poller and have been much happier
[27-May-2008 19:35:03] <`m3> nice tip crow, will bear that in mind
[27-May-2008 19:36:03] <`m3> crow, your running mysql with what type of db ?
[27-May-2008 19:36:24] <`m3> innodb or myiasm or whatever it is
[27-May-2008 19:36:44] <jp10558> `m3: so you mean, go to say, /Devices/Server/Linux and do ... what? I don't see transform from the dropdown or anything - I'm using 2.1.2
[27-May-2008 19:37:11] <djs26> crow: What hardware are you running those pollers on?
[27-May-2008 19:37:32] <`m3> jp10558: its there, as long as your doing it under classes not from the device list etc
[27-May-2008 19:37:59] <`m3> my internet is too slow for me to think about a screen capture or so
[27-May-2008 19:38:29] <crow> dual opteron, local raid1+0, 32GB ram
[27-May-2008 19:38:43] <`m3> heavy on the ram, like your style
[27-May-2008 19:39:08] <djs26> Wow, nice specs.
[27-May-2008 19:39:48] <crow> it's a big install, we are pulling *lots* of data. ended up just throwing RAM at it to keep it happy.
[27-May-2008 19:40:01] <`m3> its nice to have the budget
[27-May-2008 19:40:05] <crow> definitely
[27-May-2008 19:40:25] <`m3> i didnt think my place was tight, i asked for 16gb of ram, but i think they thought i was sporting it up
[27-May-2008 19:40:42] <`m3> but thats my experience of monitoring , if you want speed you need ram
[27-May-2008 19:40:52] <`m3> swap is the enema
[27-May-2008 19:40:54] <`m3> ;p
[27-May-2008 19:41:17] <crow> I cant wait till solid state starts becoming an option.
[27-May-2008 19:41:39] <crow> of course that will lead to even less optimizting on the code end
, so the net benefit may be small[27-May-2008 19:41:54] <`m3> i have a feeling that doesnt bother you in your job
[27-May-2008 19:41:55] <`m3> ;p
[27-May-2008 19:42:23] <_LoneCrow> Will Zenoss work with netflow?
[27-May-2008 19:42:23] <jb> crow: 2000 devices, or 2000 polls?
[27-May-2008 19:42:26] <crow> ha, that budget would need more zeros I think.
[27-May-2008 19:42:41] <crow> 2000 devices per poller max
[27-May-2008 19:42:52] <`m3> and the main zenoss device ?
[27-May-2008 19:42:54] <jb> ok
[27-May-2008 19:43:01] <crow> none devices
[27-May-2008 19:43:09] <`m3> hmmm
[27-May-2008 19:43:19] <crow> at least in our install, you could keep some on there depending on the number of pollers
[27-May-2008 19:43:37] <`m3> not the kind of thing you wanna move around tho crow
[27-May-2008 19:43:41] <jb> im swapping right now..
[27-May-2008 19:43:45] <jb> this box only has 2GB of ram
[27-May-2008 19:43:51] <jb> but its only monitoring ~100 devices
[27-May-2008 19:44:18] <`m3> you suffering load , excess IO wait ?
[27-May-2008 19:44:30] <`m3> that should be the judge really
[27-May-2008 19:45:45] <`m3> jb perf works fine on my core install ;0
[27-May-2008 19:46:01] <`m3> so def something broke in my install , dammit
[27-May-2008 19:46:09] <jb> 14:46:06 up 113 days, 3:29, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.12, 0.16
[27-May-2008 19:46:16] <jb> i/o looks fine right now
[27-May-2008 19:46:24] <jb> grr
[27-May-2008 19:46:27] <`m3> yeh thats not struggling
[27-May-2008 19:46:35] <jb> ok, I bet it's something that broke in the upgrade
[27-May-2008 19:46:40] <jb> nobody responded on the forum
[27-May-2008 19:46:59] <`m3> i guess zenoss is relativly new
[27-May-2008 19:47:16] <`m3> not many people out there have used it as in depth as apache or linux itself ;p
[27-May-2008 19:47:19] * magnachef has a great fear of doing a Zenoss upgrade
[27-May-2008 19:47:29] <jb> the upgrade messed some stuff up for me
[27-May-2008 19:47:37] <`m3> zenoss is an internal tool
[27-May-2008 19:47:44] <jb> but i really need to get this perf working..
[27-May-2008 19:47:46] <magnachef> yeah, I upgraded from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3, and it messed everything up
[27-May-2008 19:48:03] <magnachef> to the point that I started again from scratch, which was ok at the time because it wasn't production
[27-May-2008 19:48:14] <jb> m3, so you have modeling errors?
[27-May-2008 19:48:16] <`m3> with correct backups you should be able to go back
[27-May-2008 19:48:28] <jb> i cant even run zenbackup now
[27-May-2008 19:48:29] <`m3> i just tar up /opt/zenoss and dump mysql
[27-May-2008 19:48:32] <jb> mysql connection errors
[27-May-2008 19:48:53] <`m3> i do my own backups because i understand em ;p
[27-May-2008 19:49:05] <jb> yeah
[27-May-2008 19:49:15] <`m3> not saying zenbackup doesnt work, never needed it , tar and gzip what more
[27-May-2008 19:49:43] <jb> m3, so you have modeling errors?
[27-May-2008 19:49:45] <`m3> the mysql stuff is just for events anyway
[27-May-2008 19:49:45] <jb> with the windows boxes
[27-May-2008 19:49:48] <jb> on yoru current install
[27-May-2008 19:49:55] <`m3> jb: in the main no
[27-May-2008 19:50:03] <`m3> i have ~800 windows clients
[27-May-2008 19:50:09] <jb> just the zen error when you click on the perf tab?
[27-May-2008 19:50:18] <`m3> ~ 60% work
[27-May-2008 19:50:27] <`m3> some just dont have snmpd fixed yet etc
[27-May-2008 19:50:36] <jb> hm
[27-May-2008 19:50:46] <`m3> jb, no just broken RRD / missing RRD
[27-May-2008 19:50:56] <jb> yeah my ethernet is that..
[27-May-2008 19:50:58] <`m3> for ones that are working with wmi and snmp
[27-May-2008 19:51:07] <`m3> all my eth stuff is ok
[27-May-2008 19:51:16] <`m3> it might be to do with how i added them
[27-May-2008 19:51:45] <jb> MISSING RRD FILE
[27-May-2008 19:51:45] <`m3> i found modelling a slow process so added them all into /devices/discovered with proto=none
[27-May-2008 19:51:46] <jb> for mien
[27-May-2008 19:52:22] <`m3> and then modelled them based on the class ( moving devices into the right class should have activated the right templates )
[27-May-2008 19:52:32] <`m3> well thats my understanding of things
[27-May-2008 19:52:58] <`m3> but the initial model / template binding that happens might be important
[27-May-2008 19:53:32] <`m3> try deleting / readding a device
[27-May-2008 19:53:44] <`m3> it your got no perf data, then your not losing much
[27-May-2008 19:54:04] <`m3> i think it stays in history regardless
[27-May-2008 19:54:11] <`m3> ( the events )
[27-May-2008 19:56:32] <jb> nope it errors out
[27-May-2008 19:56:35] <jb> same place
[27-May-2008 19:57:09] <jb> i do see this in zenperfsnmp's logs
[27-May-2008 19:57:09] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading config for devices ['solarwinds.corp.follett.com']
[27-May-2008 19:57:17] <jb> when i do a 'zenperfsnmp run -v10 -d device'
[27-May-2008 19:57:22] <jp10558> I just don't see it...
[27-May-2008 19:57:30] <jp10558> I must be missing something.
[27-May-2008 19:58:43] <jb> so its missing the config
[27-May-2008 19:58:50] <jb> but im not sure what config its talking about
[27-May-2008 20:01:06] <_LoneCrow> Does Zenoss work with netflow? or have plans to incorporate netflow into it?
[27-May-2008 20:02:05] <magnachef> not sure...have you checked the forums?
[27-May-2008 20:03:59] <jb> there are no netflow modules..
[27-May-2008 20:04:52] <_LoneCrow> I see some discussions about people wanting it but no thing whether people are actually working on it
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[27-May-2008 20:59:45] <npmccallum> so, does anyone know anything about adding data into the tree via a ZenPack?
[27-May-2008 20:59:54] <npmccallum> I should say, new types of data...
[27-May-2008 21:25:24] <jb> grr
[27-May-2008 21:25:35] <jb> zenbackup/zenrestore doesn't work properly
[27-May-2008 21:25:36] <jb> 2.2 -> 2.2
[27-May-2008 21:27:44] <jb> thats nice..
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[28-May-2008 02:46:33] <will-firewall> anyone know how to get the route table from Cisco PIX/ASA? So far have been able to get it on every other platform we've tried, but none of the SNMP collectors seem to be doing the trick (tried route, newroute, and the Cisco one for routers)
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[28-May-2008 08:18:00] <troy42> woot
[28-May-2008 08:43:01] <_pok> ping
[28-May-2008 09:52:56] <nemo_> jp10558, still having the transform issue ?
[28-May-2008 09:53:28] <nemo_> and i forget who i promised the zeo db reindex script .. ( nemo==m3 from last night)
[28-May-2008 10:48:40] <_pok> I figured out by myself that I had to reindex() stuff after upgrading
[28-May-2008 10:48:49] <_pok> search didn't work
[28-May-2008 10:49:06] <_pok> wasn't mentioned in the upgrade guide :-F
[28-May-2008 11:19:20] <_pok> Timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running
[28-May-2008 11:19:25] <_pok> now what
[28-May-2008 11:20:42] <_pok> raise ValueError("corrupted record, oid")
[28-May-2008 11:33:26] <MrTux> _pok: delete the zeo caches and restart zeo should help
[28-May-2008 11:33:33] <MrTux> _pok: google will tell you more
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[28-May-2008 12:49:50] <nemo_> _pok, all
[28-May-2008 12:49:51] <nemo_> http://pastebin.org/39177
[28-May-2008 12:49:55] <nemo_> script to clean zenoss
[28-May-2008 12:49:58] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.org)
[28-May-2008 13:19:46] <ckrough> anybody on running multiple pollers?
[28-May-2008 13:40:53] <_pok> nemo_: yeah that got it running again
[28-May-2008 13:43:01] <_pok> hmm should it be considered "pythonic" to use dir(env) to detect if a property is set in an event?
[28-May-2008 13:43:16] <_pok> (-I guess so)
[28-May-2008 13:44:05] <_pok> [x[4] for x in dir(env) if x.startswith("unit")][0]
[28-May-2008 13:44:38] <_pok> however I'm skeptical towards its legibility
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[28-May-2008 13:54:13] <nemo_> _pok, no idea what is really pythonic
[28-May-2008 13:54:35] <nemo_> i am a python n00b, only got into it because of zenoss
[28-May-2008 14:07:33] <ckrough> whoami
[28-May-2008 14:07:38] <ckrough> ls /etc/cron.hourly/
[28-May-2008 14:07:45] <ckrough> rofl. woops
[28-May-2008 14:08:14] <ckrough> mouse focus ftw!
[28-May-2008 14:17:28] <_pok> I don't think I understand what the event class transform is for
[28-May-2008 14:17:51] <_pok> event class MAPPING transform is one thing, I use that a lot
[28-May-2008 14:18:31] <_pok> but in addition to that you can add a Transform to the entire event class
[28-May-2008 14:23:35] <jb> nemo
[28-May-2008 14:23:45] <jb> where is reindex_zeodb.py?
[28-May-2008 14:40:43] <nemo_> jb : I paste it here
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> -bash-3.1# cat reindex_zeodb.py
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> #!/opt/zenoss/bin/python
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> import Globals
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> from transaction import commit
[28-May-2008 14:41:07] <nemo_> from Products.ZenUtils.ZenScriptBase import ZenScriptBase
[28-May-2008 14:41:08] <nemo_> import commands
[28-May-2008 14:41:10] <nemo_> dmd = ZenScriptBase(connect=True).dmd
[28-May-2008 14:41:12] <nemo_> dmd.Devices.reIndex()
[28-May-2008 14:41:14] <nemo_> commit()
[28-May-2008 14:41:46] <jb> argh, i cannot sovle this perf problem for windows boxes
[28-May-2008 14:41:55] <jb> zen crashes/errors out every time I click on the perf tab
[28-May-2008 14:42:00] <nemo_> i switch all windows perf off today ;p
[28-May-2008 14:42:06] <nemo_> no reply from the zenmasters yet
[28-May-2008 14:42:13] <jb> and i think its due to the "MISSING CONFIG" error
[28-May-2008 14:42:17] <jb> yours doesnt work either?
[28-May-2008 14:42:18] <nemo_> worked on core install, dont know what else i can do
[28-May-2008 14:42:29] <nemo_> dont wanna mess too much with working system
[28-May-2008 14:42:43] <nemo_> paid support can look while i research other things ;p
[28-May-2008 14:43:00] <jb> oh is this m3?
[28-May-2008 14:59:26] <jb> now my used/free bytes on windnows boxes are all unknown
[28-May-2008 14:59:31] <jb> and a backup/restore of 2.2 doesnt work.
[28-May-2008 14:59:43] <jb> this upgrade really screwed me
[28-May-2008 15:03:39] <plamen> Hello
[28-May-2008 15:07:35] <plamen> I would like to add to zenoss managed device some properties that the user can change (through snmp). These are not counters to monitor but editable r/w fields. Is there easy way in zenoss to add custom properties in the device UI ?
[28-May-2008 15:09:23] <nemo_> jb: yup
[28-May-2008 15:10:00] <nemo_> plamen, i have modded the UI a bit, not a great idea unless you know what your doing
[28-May-2008 15:10:09] * nemo_ runs around with cowboy hat on
[28-May-2008 15:10:26] <nemo_> look for .pt files ( python templates )
[28-May-2008 15:11:35] <plamen> thanks. I will check them. There is no way to accomplish this from the Web interface?
[28-May-2008 15:12:31] <nemo_> not that i know of
[28-May-2008 15:12:54] <nemo_> i am pretty sure theres not, because it was a zenoss engineer who showed me the templates
[28-May-2008 15:13:01] <nemo_> unless he was just being an ass ;p
[28-May-2008 15:13:26] <plamen>
[28-May-2008 15:13:30] <plamen> ok. thanks
[28-May-2008 15:23:07] <nemo_> jb
[28-May-2008 15:23:16] <nemo_> i got the same erorrs i think:
[28-May-2008 15:23:17] <nemo_> Error reading value for "memoryAvailableKBytes" on schwansee.nl.imc.local (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.2.0 is bad)
[28-May-2008 15:25:36] <jb> ok
[28-May-2008 15:25:41] <jb> ive downgraded back to 2.1.2
[28-May-2008 15:25:49] <jb> now my portlets aren't working, and I tried re-registering them as well
[28-May-2008 15:27:13] <_pok> Is it impossible to add new properties to an event in an Event Class Transform?
[28-May-2008 15:27:25] <_pok> I can't get it to work
[28-May-2008 15:32:46] <nemo_> _pok, transforms do work, i dont get your terminology tho
[28-May-2008 15:34:29] <nemo_> you cannot add new properties to an event
[28-May-2008 15:34:40] <nemo_> however, you can modify event properties with a transform
[28-May-2008 15:39:53] klaf is now known as afk_away
[28-May-2008 15:52:27] <_pok> nemo_: OK good, then I can stop trying
[28-May-2008 15:54:05] <_pok> nemo_: I was trying to add an evt.subUnitId attribute in the transform for my Event Class with a value from one of the trap params
[28-May-2008 16:01:56] <nemo_> _pok, thats what i think, but it might be worth an email to zenoss or get a response just to be sure
[28-May-2008 16:45:22] <malbon> hola folks,
[28-May-2008 16:45:32] <malbon> can someone help me with a curious zenpack problem.
[28-May-2008 16:45:54] <malbon> I have eggified my HPUX zenpack but the upgrade procedure doesn't work
[28-May-2008 16:46:15] <malbon> how can I forcibly remove all references to the zenpack without using the zenpack command?
[28-May-2008 17:26:49] <twm1010> big bada boom
[28-May-2008 17:30:08] <ckrough> aziz, light
[28-May-2008 17:30:17] <twm1010> multipass!
[28-May-2008 17:30:25] <ckrough> multipass
[28-May-2008 17:30:42] <twm1010> hehehe
[28-May-2008 17:30:53] <ckrough> "multipass" rings in my head, the way she says it
[28-May-2008 17:31:12] <twm1010> Yep... I can hear it perfectly
[28-May-2008 17:31:35] <twm1010> Coorrrrneeeeeeeleeeeoooos
[28-May-2008 17:35:10] <twm1010> welcome back matt
[28-May-2008 17:35:24] <ckrough> welcome back cotter
[28-May-2008 17:40:45] <mrayzenoss> can't get enough of this place
[28-May-2008 17:41:48] <twm1010> would you believe im on a conference call right now listening to the solarwinds guys talk up their product?
[28-May-2008 17:42:57] <ckrough> never seen that one. what's their story
[28-May-2008 17:43:42] <twm1010> well, honestly, im becoming impartial, you see one SNMP monitoring tool ya seen'em all
[28-May-2008 17:43:49] <ckrough> roger
[28-May-2008 17:43:59] <mrayzenoss> a closed-source competitor in the same domain as Zenoss
[28-May-2008 17:44:03] <djs> Must be a really interesting conference call, for you to be in here yacking too.
[28-May-2008 17:44:25] * magnachef has been on that SolarWinds conf call before
[28-May-2008 17:44:43] <twm1010> Their licensing perplexes me slightly...
[28-May-2008 17:45:02] <djs> "Bend over and take it like a man"??
[28-May-2008 17:45:11] <magnachef> heh
[28-May-2008 17:45:14] <djs> Oh wait, that is MS's license scheme.
[28-May-2008 17:45:26] <twm1010> This odd separate of nodes and interfaces...
[28-May-2008 17:46:38] <mrayzenoss> ask if you can have the source
[28-May-2008 17:46:40] <twm1010> The only places I see it really coming out ahead of Zenoss core is the canned reporting, and i would say broader built-in hardware support
[28-May-2008 17:46:56] <twm1010> Everything else is the same stuff
[28-May-2008 17:47:48] <djs> And how much are they wanting for this marginally better software?
[28-May-2008 17:47:55] <mrayzenoss> if you see any good reports, maybe we could them out for the community
[28-May-2008 17:48:24] <djs> mrayzenoss: I think you are missing a verb...
[28-May-2008 17:48:37] <magnachef> I could come up with plenty of reporting suggestions for the Core Zenoss verison
[28-May-2008 17:49:00] <mrayzenoss> djs: me fail english, that unpossible
[28-May-2008 17:49:02] <twm1010> A nice gentlemen let me have his "organizer availability" zenpack
[28-May-2008 17:49:13] <djs> Heh. Just makes it hard to read...
[28-May-2008 17:49:26] <twm1010> which lets you check availability for any organizer, systems, network, locations, etc.
[28-May-2008 17:49:34] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: open tickets, ask for them on the forums and eventually somebody will do them
[28-May-2008 17:49:34] <twm1010> That was nice
[28-May-2008 17:49:45] <magnachef> zenoss-dev? or zenoss-users?
[28-May-2008 17:49:48] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: where'd you get it?
[28-May-2008 17:50:03] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: zenoss-users or perhaps zenoss-zenpacks?
[28-May-2008 17:50:13] <twm1010> A user on the forum e-mailed it to me, his company contracted the Zenoss team to write it
[28-May-2008 17:50:26] <malbon> mrayzenoss: yo!
[28-May-2008 17:50:42] <malbon> mrayzenoss: I have eggified the HPUX Monitor package. Can I send you a svn diff?
[28-May-2008 17:50:47] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: well, I guess I see why he didn't post it on zenoss-users
[28-May-2008 17:50:54] <magnachef> ok, my company is real big on reporting and wants Zenoss to be the reporting system, but I was a bit dissapointed with the canned reports
[28-May-2008 17:51:23] <twm1010> Magna: I see that as a get what you pay for thing... ya know?
[28-May-2008 17:51:27] <mrayzenoss> malbon: go ahead and send it to me, I'll see if I can get Jason to look at it.
[28-May-2008 17:51:37] <malbon> mrayzenoss: cool.
[28-May-2008 17:51:51] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: how's the documentation for custom reports? I haven't reviewed it yet
[28-May-2008 17:52:01] <twm1010> I still haven't cracked the cover on the 2.2 documentation
[28-May-2008 17:52:03] <twm1010> been meaning to
[28-May-2008 17:52:11] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: open lots of tickets, it needs work
[28-May-2008 17:52:12] <magnachef> I totally understand...I was just under the impression there was more of them from the flash demo I watched
[28-May-2008 17:52:29] <twm1010> maybe the flash demo was for "enterprise" ?
[28-May-2008 17:52:35] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: I think there are 10-15 in Core?
[28-May-2008 17:53:18] <magnachef> I actually haven't read much of the custom reports section yet either
[28-May-2008 17:53:30] <magnachef> I only see 7 reports
[28-May-2008 17:53:36] * magnachef is running 2.1.3
[28-May-2008 17:53:49] <twm1010> im on 2.2 sort of
[28-May-2008 17:53:57] <twm1010> i just don't have any core zenpacks yet
[28-May-2008 17:53:58] <magnachef> heh, sort of?
[28-May-2008 17:54:01] <magnachef> ahhh
[28-May-2008 17:54:12] <twm1010> kinda funny, that only the old ones work
[28-May-2008 17:54:32] <magnachef> I'm very afraid to upgrade
[28-May-2008 17:54:41] <twm1010> It fixed more than it broke for me
[28-May-2008 17:54:53] <twm1010> and since I was on the VM appliance, i just backed it up and said DO IT!
[28-May-2008 17:55:20] <magnachef> ahhh, yeah, I haven't used the VM version
[28-May-2008 17:55:46] <twm1010> I was going to build a new one, but I hate going through the little dance where you have to expand the virtual disk size and blah blah blah...
[28-May-2008 17:56:11] <magnachef> mrayzenoss: has the 2.2 documentation been updated for 2.2 specific stuff, or is it just more in depth which would benefit 2.1.x users as well?
[28-May-2008 17:56:13] <jb> ok.. i have a current 2.1.2 install.. I am going to build a new server, and install the 2.2 stack based RPM.. you guys think I will have any trouble importing a zenbackup from 2.1.2 and doing a zenmigrate to 2.2 new install?
[28-May-2008 17:56:34] <mrayzenoss> the 2.2 documentation has new stuff and a lot of cleanups
[28-May-2008 17:56:38] <jb> twm: we use solarwinds on the network side..
[28-May-2008 17:56:55] <twm1010> jb: why not for systems?
[28-May-2008 17:57:39] <jb> because zen is better
[28-May-2008 17:57:52] <ckrough> better for systems or better for both?
[28-May-2008 17:57:53] <twm1010> ok i'll bite... HOW is it better (besides being cheaper)
[28-May-2008 17:57:54] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: if you come across things that are confusing/wrong, please let us know with tickets, or email me and I'll open the tickets
[28-May-2008 17:57:55] <jb> systems
[28-May-2008 17:58:10] <jb> easier to customize I think.. much more flexible
[28-May-2008 17:58:15] <magnachef> mray: will do...thanks
[28-May-2008 17:58:17] <jb> although I haven't messed with the newest solarwinds
[28-May-2008 18:02:24] <twm1010> Well that's odd, my device list only shows two devices
[28-May-2008 18:39:29] <twm1010> crikey! solarwinds wants alot of money for application monitoring :O
[28-May-2008 18:39:42] <djs> How much?
[28-May-2008 18:39:57] <twm1010> base price is 12k, to do stuff that most of zenoss core-zenpacks do
[28-May-2008 18:40:18] <djs> 12k per site, server, ...?
[28-May-2008 18:40:35] <twm1010> its based on your other licensing
[28-May-2008 18:40:48] <twm1010> so that would be on top of the 8k or so just for your standard monitoring
[28-May-2008 18:40:54] <djs> Ouch
[28-May-2008 18:41:06] <twm1010> certainly puts Zenoss Enterprise back on the table
[28-May-2008 18:44:53] <jb> did you get pricing for enterprise?
[28-May-2008 18:47:52] <jb> i just think $100/yr per device is high
[28-May-2008 18:55:13] <magnachef> high yes...but competitive with most other enterprise applications
[28-May-2008 19:39:05] sars-aeol_ is now known as AlexHerron
[28-May-2008 19:39:22] <AlexHerron> hey all... anyone know a way to change the port zensyslog listens to?
[28-May-2008 19:40:26] <twm1010> hrmm... surely it has a config file
[28-May-2008 19:40:59] <AlexHerron> sometimes i wonder why i dont think of things like that
[28-May-2008 19:41:02] <AlexHerron>
[28-May-2008 19:44:17] <AlexHerron> twm1010: thanks
[28-May-2008 19:45:02] <twm1010> found it i take it
[28-May-2008 19:45:48] <AlexHerron> lol that i did
[28-May-2008 19:45:59] <AlexHerron> almost too easy
[28-May-2008 19:46:56] <AlexHerron> any idea why the entire conf file would be commented out by default
[28-May-2008 19:52:36] <twm1010> Perhaps the defaults are usually applicable?
[28-May-2008 19:52:49] <twm1010> Anyone know why my device list would only show 2 out of 175 devices?
[28-May-2008 19:53:57] <AlexHerron>
[28-May-2008 19:54:08] <AlexHerron> what kinda devices? cisco?
[28-May-2008 19:54:35] <AlexHerron> or... whats different about the devices it does recognize?
[28-May-2008 19:56:47] <ezralini> um, about as newbie as a newbie question can be: what's the default login u/p?
[28-May-2008 19:56:56] <ezralini> I just finished my first install
[28-May-2008 19:57:23] <AlexHerron> admin is u
[28-May-2008 19:57:27] <AlexHerron> zenoss is pw
[28-May-2008 19:58:02] <AlexHerron> create your own u/pw in the settings tab on the left... near the bottom
[28-May-2008 19:58:25] <AlexHerron> settings>users>drop down menu> add new user
[28-May-2008 19:58:44] <AlexHerron> type username and email address associated with user
[28-May-2008 19:59:02] <AlexHerron> click on new user to change PW and accessability settings
[28-May-2008 19:59:14] <AlexHerron> word?
[28-May-2008 19:59:16] <ezralini> AlexHerron: thanks
[28-May-2008 19:59:36] <ezralini> IMHO, It should be in the install guide
[28-May-2008 20:00:08] <AlexHerron> its in the admin guide somewhere... but sifting through 200 pages to get a u/pw is a little ridiculous
[28-May-2008 20:00:38] <ezralini> agreed
[28-May-2008 20:00:57] <AlexHerron> good luck...
[28-May-2008 20:34:30] <jb> 15:34:24 (14.2 MB/s) - `zenoss-stack-2.2.0-0.x64.rpm' saved [100182372/100182372]
[28-May-2008 20:34:33] <jb> fast mirror
[28-May-2008 21:11:42] <twm1010> oh crap...
[28-May-2008 21:11:42] <twm1010> :O
[28-May-2008 21:55:59] <ezralini> I'm an experienced sysadmin, first day with Zenoss, I can't seem to figure out how to get it to do a simple http check.
[28-May-2008 22:21:56] <ezralini> I followed all of the steps here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[28-May-2008 22:22:05] <ezralini> and I can't see what the status is of the check
[28-May-2008 22:22:12] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[28-May-2008 22:33:28] <ezralini> adytum-bot: thanks bot!
[28-May-2008 22:33:28] <adytum-bot> ezralini: Error: 'thanks' is not a valid command.
[28-May-2008 22:33:33] <ezralini> yeah yea
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[29-May-2008 06:54:25] <malbon> cd /win 2
[29-May-2008 09:06:55] IzharFirdaus is now known as KageSenshi
[29-May-2008 10:31:13] <davetoo> gm
[29-May-2008 10:32:25] <nemo> morga ;p
[29-May-2008 12:21:39] <xinity> hy guys
[29-May-2008 12:22:27] <xinity> please anyone know why i have this strange message when i try to install zenoss+zenpack-core rpms ? :
[29-May-2008 12:22:39] <xinity> WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(31771) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED
[29-May-2008 12:31:42] <xinity> surok seems i have
[29-May-2008 12:31:54] <xinity> a strange bug in zrpc module :-
[29-May-2008 12:37:00] <nemo> firewall?
[29-May-2008 12:37:10] <nemo> selinux, etc etc
[29-May-2008 12:40:52] <nemo> ok who was it having problems with perf templates ?
[29-May-2008 12:41:01] <nemo> was it jb perhaps ?
[29-May-2008 12:41:15] <jb> yes
[29-May-2008 12:41:18] <jb> windows perf
[29-May-2008 12:41:40] <jb> im in the process of building a new 2.2 box though, and going to try and import 2.1 data
[29-May-2008 12:43:07] <nemo> ok
[29-May-2008 12:43:14] <nemo> on my side it was user error
[29-May-2008 12:43:20] <nemo> although i read the manual 10 times
[29-May-2008 12:43:33] <nemo> it took my colleugue to point out that i was doing it wrong
[29-May-2008 12:44:02] <jb> what were you doing?
[29-May-2008 12:44:06] <nemo> so goto /devices/server/linux
[29-May-2008 12:44:13] <nemo> click on templates tab
[29-May-2008 12:44:35] <nemo> pull down list ( 2nd one, lower one ) -> bind templates
[29-May-2008 12:44:47] <nemo> and if they are bound they will appear blue in the list
[29-May-2008 12:45:12] <nemo> i was doing something very strange *Thinking* i was binding templates
[29-May-2008 12:45:13] <nemo> wrongly
[29-May-2008 12:45:16] <nemo> my bad !
[29-May-2008 12:46:26] <jb> only device should be bound right?
[29-May-2008 12:47:13] <nemo> well depends what perf templates you want
[29-May-2008 12:47:18] <nemo> i added processes, mysql , etc
[29-May-2008 12:47:36] <nemo> i get an erro when i view perf details but i am gonna restart zenperfsnmp and wait a bit
[29-May-2008 12:47:58] <nemo> zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d DEVICENAME
[29-May-2008 12:48:01] <nemo> to test ...
[29-May-2008 12:49:53] <xinity> nemo: nop a strange bug with my zenoss installation
[29-May-2008 12:50:03] <xinity> rpms are kind of spooky made
[29-May-2008 12:50:44] <xinity> but now i have a little prob
[29-May-2008 12:50:53] <xinity> service zenoss start
[29-May-2008 12:50:54] <xinity> says
[29-May-2008 12:51:04] <xinity> ZenSocket Error: zensocket needs to be run as root or setuid
[29-May-2008 12:51:07] <xinity> how to fix this ?
[29-May-2008 12:51:28] <nemo> you did /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[29-May-2008 12:51:33] <nemo> not service zenoss start
[29-May-2008 12:51:38] <xinity> nop
[29-May-2008 12:51:47] <nemo> i got no idea why , but it happened to me like that first time too
[29-May-2008 12:52:01] <nemo> i removed all , did again , and this time it caught the first boot strap
[29-May-2008 12:52:11] <xinity> removed what ?
[29-May-2008 12:52:13] <nemo> and ran some kind of one time config
[29-May-2008 12:52:14] <xinity> zenoss installation ?
[29-May-2008 12:52:24] <nemo> removed all zenoss rpms , rm -fr /opt/zenoss
[29-May-2008 12:52:38] <xinity> oh ok i see
[29-May-2008 12:52:45] <xinity> let's try then
[29-May-2008 12:58:31] <xinity> /opt/zenoss/bin/install-functions.sh: line 118: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl
[29-May-2008 12:58:36] <xinity> just after a fresh install
[29-May-2008 12:58:41] <xinity> why why why ?
[29-May-2008 12:58:57] <xinity> this is really pulling my legs
[29-May-2008 13:16:10] <jb> erm
[29-May-2008 13:16:16] <jb> you need to setuid zensocket
[29-May-2008 13:16:18] <jb> just like it says
[29-May-2008 13:44:26] <jb> ok
[29-May-2008 13:44:30] <jb> so I have a new 2.2 install
[29-May-2008 13:44:36] <twm1010> you and me both
[29-May-2008 13:44:37] <jb> took the zenbackup from 2.1.2
[29-May-2008 13:44:44] <jb> but it error'd on zenmigrate
[29-May-2008 13:44:54] <jb> everything seems to be working OK though except for the Google/Locatiosn portlet
[29-May-2008 13:45:50] <jb> actually, no
[29-May-2008 13:45:57] <jb> its completely messed up.
[29-May-2008 13:45:57] <jb> grrr
[29-May-2008 13:46:09] <jb> there has to be a WORKING way to uprgade from 2.1.2/3
[29-May-2008 13:46:46] <jb> twm: were you successful?
[29-May-2008 14:02:32] <twm1010> i wasn't doing a migration
[29-May-2008 14:02:36] <twm1010> clear the geocode cache
[29-May-2008 14:02:39] <twm1010> go to locations
[29-May-2008 14:02:47] <twm1010> hit context drop down
[29-May-2008 14:03:59] <twm1010> So if my user interface doesn't come up, which zenoss log should i be checking out
[29-May-2008 14:12:25] <twm1010> ASDF!!!
[29-May-2008 14:12:47] <jb> sec
[29-May-2008 14:17:07] <twm1010> well... I think my plan to just flat out rebuild may be my only option here :|
[29-May-2008 14:19:53] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2008 14:20:02] <jb> which will suck.
[29-May-2008 14:20:53] <nemo> i broke my entire pef system now ;p
[29-May-2008 14:20:55] <nemo> joy ;p
[29-May-2008 14:21:09] <jb> obviously 2.2 has too many problems
[29-May-2008 14:21:12] <twm1010> this is the second time i've had zopectl shit a brick on me
[29-May-2008 14:21:13] <nemo> this is what i get when i check my graphs
[29-May-2008 14:21:13] <nemo> Zenoss Error
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[29-May-2008 14:21:24] <jb> everyone is having trouble with 2.2
[29-May-2008 14:21:41] <jb> nemo: you probably have some stuff binded that should't be
[29-May-2008 14:21:45] <jb> nemo: you probably have some stuff binded that should't be
[29-May-2008 14:22:50] <twm1010> It did fix a lot of other issues for me...
[29-May-2008 14:23:11] <nemo_> i have apache, device , ethernetcsmacd+64., filesystem , ipservice , java , mysql osprocesses
[29-May-2008 14:23:18] <nemo_> i guess i could thin that down
[29-May-2008 14:32:54] <twm1010> ah ha... fixed
[29-May-2008 14:58:15] <ckrough> anyone have a link to user role management in Enterprise? having trouble finding detailed docs on it
[29-May-2008 14:58:39] <jb> hey twm
[29-May-2008 14:58:48] <jb> you guys monitoring any windows boxes?
[29-May-2008 14:59:15] <jb> im trying to figure out why my old install said like "Microsoft Windows 2003 Enterprise," and my new install just says stuff like "Microsoft Windows 5.2"
[29-May-2008 15:05:21] <twm1010> I am sure...
[29-May-2008 15:08:53] <jb> ok this is just ridiculous
[29-May-2008 15:08:56] <jb> zenmigrate just wont work
[29-May-2008 15:09:00] <jb> and its breaking everything.
[29-May-2008 15:13:42] <twm1010> i am avoiding zenmigrate... i don't want to bring the problems along for the ride...
[29-May-2008 15:14:01] <twm1010> This is good though, the rebuild, its forcing me to log what I'm doing/setting
[29-May-2008 15:14:13] <twm1010> cleaning up my device templates
[29-May-2008 15:14:45] <twm1010> apparently the appliance doesn't even come with core zenpacks installed?
[29-May-2008 15:15:06] <ghettodev> dont think so
[29-May-2008 15:18:46] <jb> you are completely redoing everything?
[29-May-2008 15:19:01] <twm1010> Yes... for the 2nd time
[29-May-2008 15:19:06] <twm1010> 1st time was between 2.0 and 2.1
[29-May-2008 15:19:09] <jb> i guess I might have to
[29-May-2008 15:19:15] <jb> but it will take forever to get it working the same
[29-May-2008 15:19:30] <twm1010> Yes.... lots of settings... all over the f'ing place
[29-May-2008 15:19:33] <jb> how are you adding your devices? each one manually?
[29-May-2008 15:19:34] <twm1010>
[29-May-2008 15:19:43] <twm1010> no... i will use discovery to re-add
[29-May-2008 15:19:57] <twm1010> the majority of them at least
[29-May-2008 15:20:06] <jb> so you just do discovery on a subnet, they get moved to /Discovered, then you move them to their containers?
[29-May-2008 15:20:13] <twm1010> right
[29-May-2008 15:20:16] <jb> ive never even used discovery
[29-May-2008 15:20:22] <jb> you do it from the cli?
[29-May-2008 15:20:24] <twm1010> its nice, if your SNMP is configured on all your stuff
[29-May-2008 15:20:30] <twm1010> no, you go to networks in the UI
[29-May-2008 15:20:40] <twm1010> check a network (might have to create one first)
[29-May-2008 15:20:48] <twm1010> and then hit the context and do a discover
[29-May-2008 15:20:54] <jb> hm where do you specify the snmp com?
[29-May-2008 15:21:21] <twm1010> I'm pretty sure it uses the ones defined on the zProperties of /Devices
[29-May-2008 15:21:49] <twm1010> ya.... zSnmpCommunities
[29-May-2008 15:22:00] <twm1010> i believe those are used for discovery
[29-May-2008 15:22:34] <twm1010> took me only once to realize that "public" shouldn't be there, unless of course i really want to monitor all 95 printers in the building :O
[29-May-2008 15:24:26] <twm1010> mrayzenoss: I did get to reading the 2.2 documentation last night... took me an hour or so to skim it, much better than previous
[29-May-2008 15:25:15] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: I'm glad to hear that. I still think it needs work, but it's a little better than before
[29-May-2008 15:26:27] <twm1010> yep, get yourself a bookmark index, and it'll be really good
[29-May-2008 15:26:45] <twm1010> that's a lot of work
[29-May-2008 15:27:21] <mrayzenoss> I actually opened a ticket for that
[29-May-2008 15:28:19] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3226
[29-May-2008 15:28:27] <adytum-bot> Title: #3226 (Admin and Developer's Guide PDFs need Table of Contents) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[29-May-2008 15:28:56] <mrayzenoss> also working on getting the documentation in a more accessible wiki
[29-May-2008 15:29:53] <twm1010> Ok... Jared at Subway just called. I'm due for my weekly anti-fatass meal... back shortly
[29-May-2008 15:37:29] <ckrough> ya
[29-May-2008 15:38:50] <nemo_> ok, too many templates was causing issues indeed
[29-May-2008 15:39:04] <nemo_> with just the device template its fine, but thats not really good for me
[29-May-2008 15:50:10] <krag> hi, anyone know if there's a way to make zenoss information publically available (eg a status page) without requiring users to login?
[29-May-2008 15:50:25] <krag> or if there's a way to query for the database for such information, at a fairly high (say group) level?
[29-May-2008 15:51:18] <nemo_> no i dont know, i heard many ppl ask for that
[29-May-2008 15:51:21] <nemo_> sounds reasonable
[29-May-2008 15:52:19] <mrayzenoss> just a sec krag
[29-May-2008 15:52:29] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/HowToSetupAZenossKioskOrOverviewMonitor/
[29-May-2008 15:52:48] <adytum-bot> Title: How to setup a Zenoss Kiosk or overview monitor - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[29-May-2008 15:55:45] <krag> cunning, cheers I'll take a look at that. I did search the forum, not the wiki
[29-May-2008 16:30:41] <tripitaka> Hi, I've installed zenoss on rhel5 with the rpm, when I start it I get "ZEO.zrpc:(2062) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED". So I want to remove the software, but guess what, `rpm -e zenoss` gives me "ZEO.zrpc:(2062) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED", and an undending process "zenpack.py --remove ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor" wtf?
[29-May-2008 16:31:12] <jb> MIB location moved in 2.2?
[29-May-2008 16:35:05] <jb> there is no share directory now
[29-May-2008 16:35:09] <jb> im assuming we just make one?
[29-May-2008 16:36:02] <twm1010> no, they moved it, not sure wehre
[29-May-2008 16:37:22] <tripitaka> I would suggest that the document at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ be amended
[29-May-2008 16:37:30] <jb> the docs havent been updated then
[29-May-2008 16:37:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Install on EL5 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[29-May-2008 16:37:39] <jb> heh
[29-May-2008 16:37:40] <jb> grr
[29-May-2008 16:37:41] <tripitaka> 'if you are already running mysql, unset the root password'
[29-May-2008 16:37:53] <tripitaka> it took some digging to find that out
[29-May-2008 16:38:24] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2008 16:40:08] <tripitaka> is there some way to reset the admin user password from mysql?
[29-May-2008 16:42:23] <twm1010> yes... there is a way, can't remember it right now
[29-May-2008 16:43:26] <tripitaka> ok. I've got a whole bunch of mysql databases, which one should I be looking through?
[29-May-2008 16:44:36] <twm1010> hold on, there is an easier way to do this
[29-May-2008 16:44:43] <twm1010> there is a forum or wiki post about this i know it
[29-May-2008 16:46:04] <tripitaka> twm1010: looks like zpasswd.py
[29-May-2008 16:46:07] <tripitaka> thanks
[29-May-2008 16:47:56] <tripitaka> hmm. "Filename is required and should be the name of the file to store the information in (usually "inituser" or "access")." There's no inituser file, any idea what the file would be?
[29-May-2008 16:49:37] <jb> argh
[29-May-2008 16:49:45] <jb> wtf does the stack RPM install in /usr/local and not /opt
[29-May-2008 16:49:54] <jb> why the change?
[29-May-2008 16:52:28] <jb> i wonder if I should use the stack RPM
[29-May-2008 16:52:30] <jb> or the stack .bin
[29-May-2008 16:52:33] <jb> which did you use twm?
[29-May-2008 16:53:35] <twm1010> i use only the VMWare appliance
[29-May-2008 16:54:06] <twm1010> Trying to keep it in the environment it was designed for... thought it seems like the appliance is sometimes an afterthought as far as development goes :|
[29-May-2008 16:54:18] <ghettodev> anyone have any advice on modelling remote access cards? I'm not sure what cevice class they should go into or whether i need to make a new model
[29-May-2008 16:54:30] <twm1010> ghettodev : i didn't add them as device
[29-May-2008 16:54:46] <twm1010> i added them manually as an interface on the server it belongs to
[29-May-2008 16:55:00] <twm1010> that way events get classified under that device, instead of a separate one
[29-May-2008 16:55:08] <jb> does the appliance use /opt or /usr
[29-May-2008 16:55:43] <ghettodev> twm1010: very interesting. will snmp still walk the card?
[29-May-2008 16:55:57] <twm1010> nope
[29-May-2008 16:56:10] <twm1010> it was the only way i could get it to keep things together though
[29-May-2008 16:56:42] <twm1010> on the appliance, everything appears to be installed beneath /home/zenoss/
[29-May-2008 17:03:06] <tripitaka> anyone know how to reset the admin user? I've tried erasing and reinstalling mysql and zenoss, still can't log in with 'admin/admin'
[29-May-2008 17:07:18] <ghettodev> its admin/zenoss i think
[29-May-2008 17:09:43] <tripitaka> ghettodev: thanks. That's another one that could go in the install doc.
[29-May-2008 17:13:56] <ghettodev> took me awhile to find as well
[29-May-2008 17:15:02] <jb> good to know the zenpack doesnt work either
[29-May-2008 17:16:05] <jb> GR
[29-May-2008 17:16:48] <jb> twm, did you have problems with zenhub not stayign started>
[29-May-2008 17:19:09] <jb> ok fixed that.
[29-May-2008 17:20:07] <nemo_> jb: /opt/zenoss/bin/winexe -U "user%pass)" //windowsbox "dir c:"
[29-May-2008 17:20:16] <nemo_> for testing wmi user etc
[29-May-2008 17:21:18] <nemo_> slightly off topic but there ye go
[29-May-2008 17:21:25] <jb> ok
[29-May-2008 17:21:32] <jb> the zencorepack does not work
[29-May-2008 17:21:40] <jb> did anyone here install it?
[29-May-2008 17:22:03] <nemo_> i dont like zenpacks
[29-May-2008 17:22:08] <nemo_> just install packages yourself
[29-May-2008 17:22:50] <nemo_> jb: too many zen* errors will kill which ever daemon in my experience
[29-May-2008 17:23:02] <nemo_> concentrate on reducing errors id say
[29-May-2008 17:23:15] <jb> 2.2 is full of problems.
[29-May-2008 17:23:58] <nemo_> of course, you dont HAVE to run the latest release
[29-May-2008 17:24:03] <nemo_> its like moving to vista
[29-May-2008 17:24:04] <nemo_> ;p
[29-May-2008 17:24:27] <nemo_> i am sticking with what for now
[29-May-2008 17:24:33] <nemo_> and zenoss can do the upgrade for me
[29-May-2008 17:24:41] <nemo_> when that times comes
[29-May-2008 18:44:59] <ckrough> Anyone know which permission would allow ZenUser to create and edit reports?
[29-May-2008 18:45:13] <jb> hey guys, is your software tab populating on linux boxes?
[29-May-2008 18:46:54] <ckrough> no, but I'm not looking for that so haven't pursued it
[29-May-2008 18:47:08] <ckrough> I dont think it does by defaul
[29-May-2008 18:47:09] <ckrough> t
[29-May-2008 18:49:34] <jb> hmm.. what about DNSMonitor in 2.2
[29-May-2008 18:49:39] <jb> anybody using that?
[29-May-2008 19:02:03] <jb> god this is a mess
[29-May-2008 19:19:27] <ckrough> jb: you running on *nix or Windows
[29-May-2008 19:44:40] <troy42> hmm
[29-May-2008 19:49:33] <jb> ckrough: linux..
[29-May-2008 19:49:38] <jb> just working thru some bugs
[29-May-2008 19:49:43] <jb> but im having to rebuild *
[29-May-2008 21:36:11] <MAHerron> hey all
[29-May-2008 21:36:47] <MAHerron> im having a bit of trouble setting zensyslog to gather events
[29-May-2008 21:37:06] <MAHerron> netstat -tuanp |grep 514 output:
[29-May-2008 21:37:08] <MAHerron> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:* 28601/python
[29-May-2008 21:37:23] <MAHerron> does it matter that it doesnt say "LISTEN"
[29-May-2008 21:37:49] <MAHerron> and also, i was able to gather expected logs in the syslog.log when i used the system syslog daemon (sysklogd)
[29-May-2008 21:38:00] <MAHerron> sorry, i'm a noob
[29-May-2008 21:38:18] <MAHerron> and completly lost... feeling like penguins are laughing at me
[29-May-2008 21:38:23] <MAHerron>
[29-May-2008 21:38:40] * kgoedtel laughs
[29-May-2008 21:39:51] <MAHerron> any ideas tho? even if you just want to tell me that it's staring me in the face
[29-May-2008 21:40:00] <MAHerron> anything helps
[29-May-2008 21:42:38] <kgoedtel> i would help but i don't use zensyslog :[
[29-May-2008 21:43:04] <MAHerron> lucky for you
[29-May-2008 21:43:11] <MAHerron> thanks tho
[29-May-2008 21:43:41] <kgoedtel> if it was snmp related i would help you though
[29-May-2008 21:44:57] <MAHerron> im thinking the remote devices are sending it via tcp and zensys listens as udp... but i have no idea if that matters
[29-May-2008 21:45:10] <MAHerron> and yeah... as soon as im lost on snmp im coming to you man
[29-May-2008 22:05:14] <MAHerron> garnica: hi
[29-May-2008 22:05:27] <MAHerron> know anything about zensyslog config
[29-May-2008 22:05:29] <MAHerron> ?
[29-May-2008 22:05:33] <garnica> s up !
[29-May-2008 22:06:06] <MAHerron> im having a lovely newbie problem if you;d care to hear
[29-May-2008 22:06:19] <MAHerron> im having a bit of trouble setting zensyslog to gather events
[29-May-2008 22:06:25] <MAHerron> netstat -tuanp |grep 514 output:
[29-May-2008 22:06:28] <garnica> not much, what would you like to do with zensyslog ?
[29-May-2008 22:06:32] <MAHerron> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:* 28601/python
[29-May-2008 22:06:40] <MAHerron> does it matter that it doesnt say "LISTEN"
[29-May-2008 22:06:47] <MAHerron> and also, i was able to gather expected logs in the syslog.log when i used the system syslog daemon (sysklogd)
[29-May-2008 22:06:55] <MAHerron> sorry, i'm a noob
[29-May-2008 22:06:59] <MAHerron> and completly lost... feeling like penguins are laughing at me
[29-May-2008 22:07:28] <MAHerron> i just need to to log events that come in via port 514
[29-May-2008 22:07:38] <MAHerron> but i just cant get it figured
[29-May-2008 22:08:39] <MAHerron> i just dont know what im missing
[29-May-2008 22:09:36] <garnica> mm I don't know much about syslog....
[29-May-2008 22:09:55] <garnica> are they snmp events ?
[29-May-2008 22:10:19] <MAHerron> nah
[29-May-2008 22:10:42] <MAHerron> like trying to get syslog events tranfered over udp into the zen box
[29-May-2008 22:10:45] <MAHerron> it's aiight
[29-May-2008 22:10:47] <MAHerron> worth a shot
[29-May-2008 22:10:55] <MAHerron> thanks regardless
[29-May-2008 22:11:58] <kgoedtel> do you have another central logging daemon server?
[29-May-2008 22:12:14] <kgoedtel> or is it all going directly to your zenoss host?
[29-May-2008 22:12:21] <MAHerron> nope.. direct to zenoss host
[29-May-2008 22:12:41] <MAHerron> although im debating on setting up a centralized syslog server with syslog-ng
[29-May-2008 22:13:16] <kgoedtel> what version of sysklogd is forwarding the wanted messages?
[29-May-2008 22:13:47] <MAHerron> hm let me check
[29-May-2008 22:20:27] <MAHerron> sorry for the wait it's 1.4.1
[29-May-2008 22:24:56] <garnica> have you checked the firewall settings to allow syslog on port 514 ?
[29-May-2008 22:25:16] <MAHerron> lol im poking around in iptables now
[29-May-2008 22:36:11] <kgoedtel> i was going to ask that too, but didn't want to be mean :]
[29-May-2008 22:37:10] <MAHerron> oh be mean... at this point i may need it
[29-May-2008 22:59:21] <jb> hrm, im having trouble getting a device class to use a custom collection plugin
[29-May-2008 22:59:36] <jb> under "Collection Plugins" it says it is there.. but when you model the device, it doesn't use it
[29-May-2008 22:59:40] <jb> it worked in 2.1.3, this is 2.2
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[30-May-2008 10:08:02] <krag> hi, is anyone using the netapp zenpack with 2.2? It works fine monitoring filers using the 2.1 vmware instance but it's not returning filesystem stats using 2.2 stack install.
[30-May-2008 12:48:25] <magnachef> krag: I'm using the NetApp Filesystem zenpack
[30-May-2008 12:49:07] <magnachef> works pretty nice except for the 2T volumes show up as negatives
[30-May-2008 13:32:59] <krag> magnachef: is that with the most recent version? it works great for us using the vmware instance, but it's not working when installing on a standalone linux box.
[30-May-2008 13:33:18] <magnachef> I'm running 2.1.3
[30-May-2008 13:33:30] <magnachef> with this zenpack: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/netappvolume
[30-May-2008 13:33:47] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPack - NetApp Volume - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[30-May-2008 13:34:40] <magnachef> and I'm using a standalone server, with Centos4 rpm
[30-May-2008 13:35:28] <krag> magnachef: I've just installed 2.1.3 from source on our debian box, having uninstalled 2.2 so hopefully that'll fix it
[30-May-2008 13:36:02] <magnachef> yeah, I'd like to get both the netapp zenpacks workign together, but not sure how that will work out
[30-May-2008 13:36:46] <magnachef> for some reason it creates two different classes, but named the same thing (/Devices/Storage/NetApp
[30-May-2008 13:37:06] <krag> there're are two netapp zenpacks?
[30-May-2008 13:37:11] <magnachef> yeah
[30-May-2008 13:37:20] <magnachef> netapp volume, and sys-netapp
[30-May-2008 13:37:39] <krag> ahhh, I've only used netapp vol, I presume sys-netapp is filer ops/secs etc..?
[30-May-2008 13:37:59] <magnachef> yeah, I had to remove it though due to the issue I just mentioned
[30-May-2008 13:39:18] <krag> ahh. Up until now I've just being using nagios with templates from nagios.org and they monitor both volume and sys ops. They also seem to adjust to changes in volume size (ie you resize the volume, the limit goes up) which I don't think this zenpack does.
[30-May-2008 13:40:26] <magnachef> hmmm...I would hope that it would readjust the total bytes, as it's just reading from SNMP
[30-May-2008 13:40:42] <magnachef> I don't have nagios previously installed, so I can't go down that route
[30-May-2008 14:05:26] <jb> so is anyone here actually using 2.2 and not having issues?
[30-May-2008 14:05:28] <jb> just curious..
[30-May-2008 14:25:24] <krag> just installed zenpack onto 2.1.3 and it works as expected. Can only put it down to being a problem with 2.2.
[30-May-2008 14:25:49] <jb> yeah.. grr 2.2
[30-May-2008 14:26:04] <jb> im messing with it on a new install now, since it completely foobared my 2.1.3 installation
[30-May-2008 14:26:58] <magnachef> krag: did you install both of those Zenpacks, or only the sys-netapp because you have the nagios plugin?
[30-May-2008 14:27:39] <krag> magnachef: only the netapp-volume so far, but that on it's own didn't work with 2.2. I'll be looking at getting sys-netapp working in conjunction with it next.
[30-May-2008 14:41:18] <magnachef> cool...yeah, that's something I'd like to get working as well
[30-May-2008 14:41:24] <magnachef> and good to know it breaks with 2.2
[30-May-2008 15:25:54] <nacer> hi
[30-May-2008 15:34:24] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm trying to run the install script and its blowing up when trying to set up the database, claiming the user or password are incorrect, yet I've verified twice that the zenoss user has the password I'm providing
[30-May-2008 15:35:05] <nemo_> admin zenoss ?
[30-May-2008 15:35:35] <Free_the_Mallocs> the zenoss database user
[30-May-2008 15:39:02] <Free_the_Mallocs> here's the error, although it basically says what I just said: install-functions.sh: line 65: 18922 Segmentation fault mysql -h ${MYSQLHOST} -u ${MYSQLUSER} --port=${MYSQLPORT} -p"${MYSQLPASS}" < /dev/null > /dev/null
[30-May-2008 15:39:03] <Free_the_Mallocs> mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[30-May-2008 15:43:45] <mrayzenoss> which installer and what's the platform?
[30-May-2008 15:43:58] <Free_the_Mallocs> gentoo
[30-May-2008 15:44:10] <Free_the_Mallocs> its the bash install script, checked out from svn yesterday
[30-May-2008 15:50:55] <nacer> what do you think about thaht : Timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running?
[30-May-2008 15:51:34] <mrayzenoss> Free_the_Mallocs: are there community docs for Gentoo somewhere?
[30-May-2008 15:52:37] <Free_the_Mallocs> you mean the Gentoo wiki for installing zenoss?
[30-May-2008 15:52:42] <Free_the_Mallocs> yes, I've been following it
[30-May-2008 15:55:27] <Free_the_Mallocs> however, it matches up with the source install guide on the zenoss site
[30-May-2008 16:05:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> it seems as though the script is creating the user
[30-May-2008 16:05:34] <Free_the_Mallocs> then it blows up
[30-May-2008 16:09:47] <mrayzenoss> sorry I don't have much feedback to give. I don't have access to a Gentoo box myself
[30-May-2008 16:10:26] <Free_the_Mallocs> I can give you access to this one if you'd like to look.
[30-May-2008 16:10:40] <mrayzenoss> not sure it would do much good
[30-May-2008 16:10:51] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm coming to a similar conclusion
[30-May-2008 16:11:04] <mrayzenoss> well, I'd recommend posting on the forums, I know there are Gentoo users
[30-May-2008 16:11:23] <mrayzenoss> perhaps you could get by without our mysql install
[30-May-2008 16:11:24] <mrayzenoss> ?
[30-May-2008 16:11:59] <Free_the_Mallocs> ?
[30-May-2008 16:12:05] <mrayzenoss> sorry, that didn't make sense
[30-May-2008 16:12:09] <mrayzenoss> looking at your error again
[30-May-2008 16:12:29] <mrayzenoss> so this is SVN trunk?
[30-May-2008 16:12:48] <mrayzenoss> and you ran "install.sh"
[30-May-2008 16:12:59] <Free_the_Mallocs> yes
[30-May-2008 16:13:07] <Free_the_Mallocs> as the zenoss users
[30-May-2008 16:13:30] <Free_the_Mallocs> it looks like the script creates the zenoss user in the database correctly
[30-May-2008 16:13:32] <mrayzenoss> post it to zenoss-dev, I'll get someone to look a tit
[30-May-2008 16:13:33] <mrayzenoss> it
[30-May-2008 16:13:37] <Free_the_Mallocs> but for some reason its not logging in as the zenoss user to create the events database
[30-May-2008 16:13:42] <mrayzenoss> that's odd
[30-May-2008 16:15:21] <mrayzenoss> are you srossen?
[30-May-2008 16:15:36] <mrayzenoss> there's a forum post about it yesterday
[30-May-2008 16:15:40] <Free_the_Mallocs> no
[30-May-2008 16:15:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> I haven't posted to the forum about it yet
[30-May-2008 16:16:05] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20667
[30-May-2008 16:16:10] <mrayzenoss> looks like a fix
[30-May-2008 16:16:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Intall failing (at community.zenoss.com)
[30-May-2008 16:16:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> checking
[30-May-2008 16:27:05] <xinity> hope this time my zenoss installation won't fail
[30-May-2008 16:27:21] <Free_the_Mallocs> ok, looks like I got past that point
[30-May-2008 16:27:45] <Free_the_Mallocs> that whole line was scary
[30-May-2008 16:31:05] <mrayzenoss> cool, glad to hear it. Gotta go
[30-May-2008 16:31:26] <Free_the_Mallocs> thanks for your help
[30-May-2008 16:52:45] <xinity> yes !
[30-May-2008 16:52:53] <xinity> new zenoss instance up
[30-May-2008 16:56:06] <xinity> next step , try to restore a zenbackup from another instance
[30-May-2008 17:04:55] <xinity> any clue on why zeoctl takes a long time to start ?
[30-May-2008 17:05:52] <xinity> here is what i have on screen
[30-May-2008 17:05:53] <xinity> [root@visor2 opt]# service zenoss start
[30-May-2008 17:05:55] <xinity> Daemon: zeoctl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[30-May-2008 17:06:25] <locohost> whats going on in the background? ie top/iostat
[30-May-2008 17:08:16] <xinity> argh
[30-May-2008 17:08:19] <xinity> think i have found
[30-May-2008 17:08:32] <xinity> i found this in zeo.log
[30-May-2008 17:09:01] <xinity> CorruptedDataError: Error reading oid 0x0f5f. Found 'U\x03objq\x0bU\x08\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x009\xdbq\x0cQU\x12__primary_parent__q\r' at 20034768
[30-May-2008 17:09:08] <xinity> damned
[30-May-2008 17:09:19] <locohost> does it never start?
[30-May-2008 17:09:54] <xinity> nope
[30-May-2008 17:09:58] <xinity> still trying to start
[30-May-2008 17:10:50] <xinity> let's try to kill and restart
[30-May-2008 17:11:18] <locohost> probably stop, i woudlnt kill if you can help it
[30-May-2008 17:11:26] <locohost> even if it takes 10m or so
[30-May-2008 17:11:52] <locohost> if you kill, i think there will be some....if i remember correctly zek or sec files in your data directory that you will need to delete before restarting
[30-May-2008 17:12:00] <xinity> kill and start seems to fix it
[30-May-2008 17:12:26] <locohost> well, good then
[30-May-2008 17:12:35] <xinity> let's find out
[30-May-2008 17:14:31] <xinity> damned
[30-May-2008 17:14:50] <xinity> same issue as before
[30-May-2008 17:15:06] <xinity> RenderServer File: /tmp/renderserver/graph-390e5f608aacab0491ba395d92b5f5df129600.png not created yet.
[30-May-2008 17:25:39] <xinity> grrrr
[30-May-2008 17:25:52] <xinity> zenoss rpm seems to be crapy in some ways
[30-May-2008 17:30:18] <twm1010> hallo!
[30-May-2008 17:30:33] <magnachef> howdy
[30-May-2008 17:31:22] <twm1010> How goes it
[30-May-2008 17:31:33] <magnachef> it's friday!
[30-May-2008 17:31:39] <xinity> tricky for me
[30-May-2008 17:32:00] <twm1010> Yes Friday... meaning I get to spend the whole weekend doing absolutely nothing...
[30-May-2008 17:32:12] <twm1010> Why tricky xinity?
[30-May-2008 17:33:39] <xinity> twm1010: an old instance has it's zopedb corrupted
[30-May-2008 17:34:40] <twm1010> doh! got a backup?
[30-May-2008 17:35:26] <xinity> twm1010: corrupted
[30-May-2008 17:35:29] <twm1010> doh!!
[30-May-2008 17:35:44] <xinity> i'm trying to extract only the configuration of the instance
[30-May-2008 17:35:52] <twm1010> If it makes you feel better my test suse linux server decided to forget its partition table this morning
[30-May-2008 17:35:55] <xinity> i mean : hosts groups, devices ...
[30-May-2008 17:36:18] <twm1010> Hrmm... does Zenoss package any tools to check/repair?
[30-May-2008 17:36:36] <xinity> twm1010: duno
[30-May-2008 17:36:58] <xinity> twm1010: i've build another instance wich is working great
[30-May-2008 17:37:09] <xinity> twm1010: but trying to extract some informations from the old on
[30-May-2008 17:37:18] <twm1010> right, does it work at all?
[30-May-2008 17:39:38] <xinity> trying right now
[30-May-2008 17:39:46] <xinity> f...... virtual hosts
[30-May-2008 17:40:59] <twm1010> I prefer virtualization myself...
[30-May-2008 17:43:46] <twm1010> Once I get SLES reinstalled and on SP2 i am going to try installing from stack
[30-May-2008 18:00:47] <xinity> ok found what's wrong
[30-May-2008 18:01:04] <xinity> now i need to find how to extract only relevant informations from zenoss db
[30-May-2008 18:09:53] <twm1010> i would think zendmd could help you out there
[30-May-2008 18:10:11] <xinity> i think to , but i'm not a zendmd ruler :-)
[30-May-2008 18:10:16] <twm1010> i seem to remember that zenoss has the ability to spit out information into an XML format
[30-May-2008 18:10:29] <xinity> ah ? interesting
[30-May-2008 18:10:32] <twm1010> or maybe it can read it in?
[30-May-2008 18:10:58] <twm1010> not sure... but I think you could use zenDMD to get the output you want into a text file, and then take that to the new box and reimport it...
[30-May-2008 18:11:32] <twm1010> that would help me greatly in getting to my new instance... I can rediscover my devices easy enough, its the getting all that metadata in that is gonna be manual
[30-May-2008 18:11:38] <twm1010> serial # rack slot, etc.
[30-May-2008 18:11:50] <xinity> i'll take a look in train while i'll be back home
[30-May-2008 18:11:56] <xinity> do you want me to let you know ?
[30-May-2008 18:11:57] <twm1010> i would use zenbackup, but that brings all the settings with it, and that would rbing the problems with it
[30-May-2008 18:12:06] <mrayzenoss> you just want devices?
[30-May-2008 18:12:14] <mrayzenoss> zendevicedump
[30-May-2008 18:12:24] <twm1010> :O!
[30-May-2008 18:13:19] <mrayzenoss> not much about it in the Admin Guide, but it's in Chapter 9
[30-May-2008 18:13:31] <mrayzenoss> zendevicedump and zendeviceload
[30-May-2008 18:13:31] <twm1010> yeah i'm scrambling for that PDF right now
[30-May-2008 18:14:03] <twm1010> fabulous...
[30-May-2008 18:14:10] <twm1010> you have no idea how much time you just saved me
[30-May-2008 18:14:26] <xinity> lol
[30-May-2008 18:14:27] <xinity>
[30-May-2008 18:15:46] <mrayzenoss> glad to be of service
[30-May-2008 18:15:54] <twm1010> ::Salute!::
[30-May-2008 18:15:54] <xinity> crash
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> <object id='Java' module='Products.ZenModel.RRDTemplate' class='RRDTemplate'>
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> Traceback (most recent call last):
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ExportDevices.py", line 113, in ?
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> ex.export()
[30-May-2008 18:15:57] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ExportDevices.py", line 99, in export
[30-May-2008 18:15:59] <xinity> root.exportXml(buffer,self.options.ignorerels,True)
[30-May-2008 18:16:00] <twm1010> rutroh
[30-May-2008 18:16:01] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 265, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:04] <xinity> self.exportXmlRelationships(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:07] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 305, in exportXmlRelationships
[30-May-2008 18:16:10] <xinity> rel.exportXml(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:12] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ToManyContRelationship.py", line 285, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:16] <xinity> obj.exportXml(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:18] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 265, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:21] <xinity> self.exportXmlRelationships(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:24] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/RelationshipManager.py", line 305, in exportXmlRelationships
[30-May-2008 18:16:27] <xinity> rel.exportXml(ofile, ignorerels)
[30-May-2008 18:16:29] <xinity> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenRelations/ToOneRelationship.py", line 195, in exportXml
[30-May-2008 18:16:32] <xinity> ofile.write("<toone id='%s' objid='%s'/>\n" % (
[30-May-2008 18:16:35] <xinity> AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute 'getPrimaryId'
[30-May-2008 18:16:37] <xinity> oups sorry
[30-May-2008 18:16:40] <xinity> mrayzenoss: what's the deal with the error message saying too many relationship in the log files ?
[30-May-2008 18:17:06] <mrayzenoss> I don't know, lemme investigate
[30-May-2008 18:17:35] <xinity> zenoss is a really great tool
[30-May-2008 18:17:47] <xinity> it just lack documentations and recovery tools :
[30-May-2008 18:17:48] <xinity>
[30-May-2008 18:17:51] <twm1010> I take it as a challenge
[30-May-2008 18:18:01] <twm1010> You might say I'm addicted to it...
[30-May-2008 18:18:15] <twm1010> I'm fighting for it right now, they want to drop $$ on solarwinds... and i think its a waste of money
[30-May-2008 18:18:30] <xinity> imaho
[30-May-2008 18:18:52] <xinity> there are only 2 supervision system which really worth a try and pay (opensource i mean)
[30-May-2008 18:19:02] <xinity> hyperic and zenoss
[30-May-2008 18:19:08] <twm1010> haven't tried hyperic
[30-May-2008 18:19:27] <twm1010> we have hobbit, nagios, managewise, and opmanager running right now
[30-May-2008 18:19:30] <twm1010> lol
[30-May-2008 18:19:33] <mrayzenoss> the major difference between Hyperic and Zenoss is that Hyperic is agent-based and zenoss is remote-monitoring
[30-May-2008 18:19:43] <xinity> mrayzenoss: that's it
[30-May-2008 18:19:49] <mrayzenoss> Hyperic is Java, Zenoss is Python
[30-May-2008 18:20:04] <twm1010> I'm actually on the Netware/Windows support team, so by using Zenoss I've kinda crossed realms into the territory of our Unix guys
[30-May-2008 18:20:33] <mrayzenoss> xinity: that's not it, there are lots of other things, but the major diff
[30-May-2008 18:20:45] <mrayzenoss> different philosophies of monitoring
[30-May-2008 18:20:49] <xinity> mrayzenoss: that's what i meant
[30-May-2008 18:22:21] <xinity> but that won't solve my problem in anyway
[30-May-2008 18:22:43] <twm1010> There has to be a way to do a consistency check on that DB
[30-May-2008 18:24:33] <mrayzenoss> xinity: I'd post to the forums, I don't know the write way to fix a corrupt DB
[30-May-2008 18:25:04] <xinity> mrayzenoss: do you advise me to send a ticket to support@zenoss.com ?
[30-May-2008 18:26:27] <mrayzenoss> no
[30-May-2008 18:26:33] <mrayzenoss> unless you're a paying customer
[30-May-2008 18:26:44] <xinity> mrayzenoss: what i am :-)
[30-May-2008 18:26:55] <mrayzenoss> you are?
[30-May-2008 18:27:01] <xinity> mrayzenoss: i am
[30-May-2008 18:27:17] <mrayzenoss> definitely then, those guys have probably seen it
[30-May-2008 18:27:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> out of curiosity, what do support contracts for zenoss cost?
[30-May-2008 18:27:56] <twm1010> Depends on # of devices
[30-May-2008 18:27:58] <xinity> mrayzenoss: paid for around 150devices :-) around december last year
[30-May-2008 18:27:59] <twm1010> and level support
[30-May-2008 18:28:12] <twm1010> $100/server sounds bout right
[30-May-2008 18:28:24] <Free_the_Mallocs> $100 per monitored server?
[30-May-2008 18:28:27] <mrayzenoss> Free_the_Mallocs: there are different levels based on your needs
[30-May-2008 18:28:38] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/product/overview#subscriptions
[30-May-2008 18:28:52] <adytum-bot> Title: Overview - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[30-May-2008 18:29:23] <xinity> Free_the_Mallocs: you'll get access to many zenpacks , more advanced documentations and many more things
[30-May-2008 18:29:26] <mrayzenoss> there are discounts for .EDU and XSPs
[30-May-2008 18:29:35] <xinity> Free_the_Mallocs: definitely worth the bill
[30-May-2008 18:29:52] <mrayzenoss> Glad to hear that
[30-May-2008 18:30:26] <mrayzenoss> the Enterprise is going to be moving to 2.2 soon
[30-May-2008 18:30:38] <twm1010> Wait... the subscription gets you the appliance?
[30-May-2008 18:30:39] <xinity> mrayzenoss: june 17th says the support
[30-May-2008 18:30:42] <twm1010> i didnt' know that
[30-May-2008 18:30:45] <xinity> twm1010: :-)
[30-May-2008 18:30:52] <mrayzenoss> xinity: I didn't know if that was final, but yeah
[30-May-2008 18:30:54] <twm1010> I thought it was extra
[30-May-2008 18:30:59] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: No, appliance is extra
[30-May-2008 18:31:37] <xinity> i'm thorn between , rebuilding from scratch or waiting a holly help from the support , which way to go
[30-May-2008 18:32:04] <mrayzenoss> well, if you think getting past your DB issues is your only blocker I'd ask them
[30-May-2008 18:32:35] <xinity> mrayzenoss: to be honest, it's the biggest issue, but i'm not sure if it's the only one
[30-May-2008 18:32:42] <mrayzenoss> email support is unlimited
[30-May-2008 18:32:51] <xinity> mrayzenoss: and more important , why and how this can happen
[30-May-2008 18:33:07] <xinity> mrayzenoss: support yes, but my time not :-)
[30-May-2008 18:34:05] <twm1010> xinity: i'm curious how do you do your backups?
[30-May-2008 18:34:18] <xinity> twm1010: you know what ? i'm cursed
[30-May-2008 18:34:21] <mrayzenoss> xinity: sorry I don't have the answers
[30-May-2008 18:34:36] <xinity> twm1010: i have 3 instances , 2 are testbeds and one is production
[30-May-2008 18:34:46] <xinity> the 2 testbeds are messed up
[30-May-2008 18:34:50] <twm1010> I used Syncsort Backup Express for the enterprise, I was able to get it to script startup/shutdown of zenoss during backup
[30-May-2008 18:35:13] <xinity> and the curse is , on them the cron daily for zenbackup haven't been deployed
[30-May-2008 18:35:22] <twm1010> ahh
[30-May-2008 18:35:23] <xinity> and i don't know why
[30-May-2008 18:36:51] <xinity> anyway , i'll figure this out later, time to cool my mind and think on how and what i should do
[30-May-2008 18:37:09] <twm1010> is the production box similar?
[30-May-2008 18:37:28] <xinity> twm1010: nop hopefully
[30-May-2008 18:37:41] <mrayzenoss> xinity: fire an email off to support while you cool it then
[30-May-2008 18:38:04] <twm1010> good luck
[30-May-2008 18:38:05] <xinity> mrayzenoss: i'll definitely do it :-) whith as much informations as i can
[30-May-2008 18:38:21] <twm1010> zendevicedump sure is beatin the snot out of my zenoss box
[30-May-2008 18:38:34] <mrayzenoss> twm1010: how many devices?
[30-May-2008 18:38:39] <twm1010> ~200
[30-May-2008 18:38:54] <twm1010> i just shut down the other VM on that host server, to give it a little more processor
[30-May-2008 18:38:56] xinity is now known as xinity_aw
[30-May-2008 18:42:05] <jb> whats zendevicedump?
[30-May-2008 18:42:19] <twm1010> a command to export all your devices into an XML file
[30-May-2008 18:42:23] <jb> enterprise is moving to 2.2?
[30-May-2008 18:42:24] <twm1010> oh crap, that ain't good
[30-May-2008 18:42:28] <jb> wow, i hope its been fixed then
[30-May-2008 18:43:02] <mrayzenoss> previous Enterprise releases were a month or so after the Core release
[30-May-2008 18:43:09] <mrayzenoss> so there'll be another Core release as well
[30-May-2008 18:43:12] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.1
[30-May-2008 18:45:16] <twm1010> rutroh
[30-May-2008 18:45:25] <twm1010> i think i crashed my zenoss VM
[30-May-2008 18:45:40] <twm1010> zendevicedump ran it out of memory
[30-May-2008 18:45:41] <twm1010> haha
[30-May-2008 18:46:27] <jb> when can we expect 2.2.1 myray?
[30-May-2008 18:46:33] <jb> mrayzenoss
[30-May-2008 18:47:03] <jb> i just built a new server for 2.2
[30-May-2008 18:47:16] <jb> had a PE2850 laying around..
[30-May-2008 18:47:24] <twm1010> got any more? i could use one
[30-May-2008 18:47:31] <jb> probably
[30-May-2008 18:48:02] <twm1010> milestone says 2.2.1 due 6/11/08
[30-May-2008 18:48:16] <jb> ok good
[30-May-2008 18:48:43] <jb> argh
[30-May-2008 18:48:48] <twm1010> check it: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/roadmap
[30-May-2008 18:48:49] <jb> the forums have been very slow lately
[30-May-2008 18:48:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Roadmap - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[30-May-2008 18:48:58] <jb> i really need to get custom collectin plugins working
[30-May-2008 18:48:59] <jb> and they arent.
[30-May-2008 18:49:16] <mrayzenoss> forums are slow because we moved to a new CoLo and it's been rough
[30-May-2008 18:49:29] <jb> ah
[30-May-2008 18:49:52] <twm1010> doesn't bother me, its 50x better than when i first started doing this
[30-May-2008 18:49:56] <jb> twm, are you using any custom collection plugins?
[30-May-2008 18:50:09] <jb> when I model, the model is just ignoring them
[30-May-2008 18:50:19] <twm1010> i was using an ESX one
[30-May-2008 18:50:29] <ckrough> <cough> You should move to a different hoster</cough>
[30-May-2008 18:50:34] <jb> on 2.2?
[30-May-2008 18:50:54] <twm1010> holy crap
[30-May-2008 18:51:11] <twm1010> giving my Zenoss box an additional 1.5GB ram was like pressing the "turbo" button
[30-May-2008 18:51:27] <ckrough> it loves RAM
[30-May-2008 18:51:36] <mrayzenoss> yeah, especially VMs
[30-May-2008 18:51:43] <twm1010> I mean, I expected an increase, but not this much, wow.
[30-May-2008 18:51:45] <jb> i bumped mine up from 2 to 8GB
[30-May-2008 18:51:50] <ckrough> definitely. VMs love ram all on their own
[30-May-2008 18:52:13] <ckrough> zenoss is disk IO intensive too, which is where VMs tend to choke a lot
[30-May-2008 18:52:56] <ckrough> setting noatime and nodiratime on your $zenhome partition helps as well
[30-May-2008 18:53:15] <twm1010> Where do you set that?
[30-May-2008 18:53:28] <Free_the_Mallocs> /etc/fstab
[30-May-2008 18:53:28] <jb> in /etc/fstab
[30-May-2008 18:53:38] <ckrough> read up on it first
[30-May-2008 18:53:41] <jb> change "default" to "noatime, nodiratime"
[30-May-2008 18:53:48] <jb> for that partition
[30-May-2008 18:53:59] <ckrough> you can also stack them, ie: default,noatime,nodiratime
[30-May-2008 18:54:18] <twm1010> ah.. reduce overhead... smart
[30-May-2008 18:54:58] <ckrough> makes a noticable difference on pollers
[30-May-2008 18:55:54] <ckrough> note that should be "defaults" with an 's'
[30-May-2008 19:00:14] <twm1010> w00t zendump werked
[30-May-2008 19:01:51] <ckrough> how long did it take with 200
[30-May-2008 19:02:02] <twm1010> about 5 minutes... after I gave it sufficient ram
[30-May-2008 19:02:09] <ckrough> at 8GB?
[30-May-2008 19:02:17] <mrayzenoss> later guys
[30-May-2008 19:02:27] <twm1010> 2.5GB RAM
[30-May-2008 19:02:42] <twm1010> Initially it only had 1GB
[30-May-2008 19:03:12] <twm1010> I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner, maybe because my initial appliance usage was for only 30 devices
[30-May-2008 19:03:34] <twm1010> then I expanded to the whole network, it never dawned on me that i was probably beating up the virtual machine
[30-May-2008 19:12:45] <ckrough> anyone know how to specify the timeframe for report graphs?
[30-May-2008 19:12:56] <ckrough> ie; I want to see 1 calendar week
[30-May-2008 19:13:38] <twm1010> well... hold on
[30-May-2008 19:13:50] <twm1010> you should be able to specify an interval up top?
[30-May-2008 19:14:36] <ckrough> yes, but I want to be able to specify: SUN 00:00 through SAT 23:59
[30-May-2008 19:18:11] <twm1010> don't think the canned reports are setup for that
[30-May-2008 19:18:38] <AlexHerron> hey all
[30-May-2008 19:18:43] <twm1010> yo
[30-May-2008 19:18:57] <AlexHerron> anyone set up zenoss to monitor cerent ons?
[30-May-2008 19:19:06] <AlexHerron> twm1010: wassup man
[30-May-2008 19:19:28] <AlexHerron> you get those other 100 devices monitored yet ?
[30-May-2008 19:19:55] <twm1010> I'm still hung up on getting Zenpacks working again
[30-May-2008 19:20:16] <AlexHerron> yeah i abandoned my syslog issue for now
[30-May-2008 19:22:19] <AlexHerron> oops
[30-May-2008 19:22:41] <AlexHerron> so yeah, anyone have experience setting up Cisco Cerent ONS 15454?
[30-May-2008 19:53:21] <locohost> you got the mibs?
[30-May-2008 19:53:22] <locohost> http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs/CERENT-454-MIB/tree.aspx
[30-May-2008 19:53:39] <adytum-bot> Title: ipMonitor :: CERENT-454-MIB: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454 (at support.ipmonitor.com)
[30-May-2008 19:53:57] <locohost> never uses a cerent...although, did some cisco stuff, asa/pix/catalyst/routers
[30-May-2008 19:54:30] <locohost> hmm, that noatime is probably a good idea
[30-May-2008 19:55:52] <locohost> i might just do that myself
[30-May-2008 19:56:18] <locohost> did you notice a significant performance increase with noatime?
[30-May-2008 19:59:20] <ckrough> yes
[30-May-2008 20:00:07] <locohost> just in a vm, or on a physical box?
[30-May-2008 20:00:21] <ckrough> physical box
[30-May-2008 20:00:37] <ckrough> it may depend on the number of devices you are polling
[30-May-2008 20:00:46] <ckrough> and the number of OIDs per device
[30-May-2008 20:00:47] <locohost> 500 ish
[30-May-2008 20:00:52] <ckrough> if it's a high humber it will make a diff
[30-May-2008 20:00:58] <locohost> 5 to 30 oids per device
[30-May-2008 20:01:04] <ckrough> yeah, you'll provbably see an imporovement
[30-May-2008 20:01:35] <locohost> i did that with zimbra before, and it did make a big difference
[30-May-2008 20:02:48] <ckrough> with 500*30 you are writing around 3000 RRDs per minute, that's a lot of atime writes
[30-May-2008 20:03:00] <ckrough> assuming 300s polling that is
[30-May-2008 20:03:21] <locohost> i poll my sevices every 10 milliseconds
[30-May-2008 20:03:26] <locohost> j/k
[30-May-2008 20:03:28] <locohost> yeah, 5m
[30-May-2008 20:04:03] <ckrough> ha, if you could have seen my face just now
[30-May-2008 20:06:01] <ckrough> I havent timed it on that number of devices, but its definitely worth a shot. I've used it in a couple of different scenarios and never recognized any problems from it
[30-May-2008 20:06:48] <locohost> well, even if its a minor improvement, i dont really see any reason not to do it
[30-May-2008 20:08:27] <locohost> sup, ray
[30-May-2008 20:09:21] <mrayzenoss> myello
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[31-May-2008 00:28:37] <johns55> any u guys have trouble in zenosss where u cant scroll?
[31-May-2008 00:28:42] <johns55> or there isnt a scroll bar?
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[31-May-2008 14:08:09] <neorom> hello here
[31-May-2008 14:11:27] <djs26> o/
[31-May-2008 14:12:50] <neorom> I've just installed zenoss with 7 snmp agents
[31-May-2008 14:13:21] <neorom> they have been founded by the discovery network feature
[31-May-2008 14:13:41] <neorom> and now I would like to monitor services on theses hosts
[31-May-2008 14:13:56] <neorom> and I have somme problems with the documentation
[31-May-2008 14:14:26] <neorom> and it does not work
[31-May-2008 14:14:41] <neorom> somebody could help me ?
[31-May-2008 14:14:59] <djs26> Sorry, won't be me. New to all of this myself.
[31-May-2008 14:15:08] <neorom> ok djs26
[31-May-2008 16:08:05] <Moltar> I have a problem with a couple of systems being monitored by zenoss. In the IP Services section, it keeps discovering all of the network interfaces for SMTP, and there is one interface that is on a private network which is unreachable from zenoss.
[31-May-2008 16:08:35] <Moltar> Is there a way to stop zenoss from trying to use the private network IP to attempt to monitor the SMTP service? I'm running version 2.2.0
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[31-May-2008 19:31:30] <kso512> Hi - can anyone tell me what the default login is for the Debian/Ubuntu install...?
[31-May-2008 19:34:32] <kso512> Found it: admin / zenoss
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