[01-Jan-2009 09:16:29] **iam3inone> hello
[01-Jan-2009 11:23:37] **iam3inone> anybody know how to average CPU data collected by zenoss of multiprocessor systems
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[02-Jan-2009 15:39:09] **jsm> weird issue... zenoss isn't sending email alerts... the "test" button works on my zenoss users to send a test message, my Alerting Rules are enabled, but no messages are going through when there is actually a real Critical Event
[02-Jan-2009 15:39:51] **magnachef> is it sending to a proper group of people with valid emails?
[02-Jan-2009 15:40:12] **magnachef> or are critical's for that device group being sent to just you?
[02-Jan-2009 16:20:09] **rhett_> i had that problem but i never really figured out what it was
[02-Jan-2009 16:20:28] **rhett_> test messages would go through but nothing else. i enabled local smtp and then it was fine
[02-Jan-2009 16:34:32] **jsm> after bouncing zenoss it seemed to fix itself
[02-Jan-2009 16:34:33] **jsm> weird
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[03-Jan-2009 17:40:19] **Gecko> Anyone awake? I can't find a function in zendmd to manipulate the Device Class. I found a Get for it, but no Set
[03-Jan-2009 17:42:42] **Gecko> moveDevice that corresponds to the webui doesn't do that unfortunately
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[04-Jan-2009 20:46:55] **sergeymasushko> Hello
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[05-Jan-2009 03:01:12] **Gecko> Any zendmd experts around?
[05-Jan-2009 03:02:45] **Gecko> My question is, if it is possible to fetch the state of a device that hasn't got snmp enabled, from zendmd
[05-Jan-2009 03:16:44] **Gecko> pingStatus() returns 2 no matter if the device is actually up or not
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[05-Jan-2009 03:58:12] **Gecko> nevermind... getStatus()...
[05-Jan-2009 09:31:19] **Gecko> Hmm, what am I doing wrong? I can't get regexp in processes to work even though they are supposed to be regexp... I'm trying to get zenoss to monitor my asterisk process, and it does, if I set the process regexp to asterisk, but that matches some processes that shouldn't be monitored, but ^asterisk doesn't match any processes it says
[05-Jan-2009 09:58:03] **Cosmin> anybody monitoring multiple websites on same ip adress?
[05-Jan-2009 11:46:50] **Cosmin> anybody monitoring multiple websites on same ip adress?
[05-Jan-2009 11:52:52] **rhett> not i
[05-Jan-2009 12:29:20] **nonsenso> i am.
[05-Jan-2009 14:54:23] **Cosmin> nonsenso how?
[05-Jan-2009 14:55:00] **Cosmin> i guess im doing something wrong
[05-Jan-2009 14:55:29] **Cosmin> when i try to add a new website and it detects that it has the same ip it skips it
[05-Jan-2009 15:44:11] **blepsoaf> hello all, I'm not sure if this room is opposed to questions, but I will ask to see if I get away with it! Does anyone know what "BadRequest: The id "id" is invalid - it is already in use" means when importing a mib? I'm not sure what "id" is to attempt to fix the issue.
[05-Jan-2009 16:17:31] **nonsenso> Cosmin: i had the same problem. in my case i wanted specific things graphed.. i had to make templates for each site and bind them to the device
[05-Jan-2009 16:17:34] **nonsenso> kinda lame, imo.
[05-Jan-2009 16:25:40] **Cosmin> yes but what if the same devices hosts multiple websites?
[05-Jan-2009 16:25:45] **Cosmin> like vhosts
[05-Jan-2009 16:25:53] **Cosmin> how can i check all the vhosts
[05-Jan-2009 18:01:04] **nonsenso> Cosmin: just that way i said. i had to write performance templates for each vhost
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[06-Jan-2009 04:51:01] **Gecko> Anyone there?
[06-Jan-2009 11:12:12] **mrayzenoss> Zenoss developers will be here Thursday 11am EST
[06-Jan-2009 11:12:30] **mrayzenoss> oops
[06-Jan-2009 11:12:37] **sergeymasushko>
[06-Jan-2009 11:13:24] **sn1ffer72> anyone have an idea to populate the component field for performance reports?
[06-Jan-2009 11:13:42] **sn1ffer72> such that it matches the groups field?
[06-Jan-2009 11:15:26] **mrayzenoss> sn1ffer72: You may want to look at this: http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/creating-methods-for-custom-reports
[06-Jan-2009 11:15:34] **adytum-bot> Title: Creating Methods for Custom Reports - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:03] **Cosmin> yes
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:04] **Cosmin>
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:23] **Cosmin> mrayzenoss happy new year
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:29] **mrayzenoss> thanks!
[06-Jan-2009 11:18:30] **sn1ffer72> mrayzenoss: thanks!
[06-Jan-2009 11:19:11] **Cosmin> anyone know why zenoss is not showing all the routes for an linux machine?
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> When i try to delete the device i got the following error:
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> Type: IntegrityError
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> Value: (1062, "Duplicate entry '17b20f118eb495409d6ffffd5' for key 1")
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> Traceback (innermost last):
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:01] **sergeymasushko> * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:03] **sergeymasushko> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:05] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenModel.Device, line 1568, in deleteDevice
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:07] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenEvents.EventManagerBase, line 1885, in manage_deleteAllEvents
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:09] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenEvents.EventManagerBase, line 1836, in deleteEvents
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:11] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenEvents.EventManagerBase, line 1802, in updateEvents
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:13] **sergeymasushko> * Module MySQLdb.cursors, line 137, in execute
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:15] **sergeymasushko> * Module MySQLdb.connections, line 33, in defaulterrorhandler
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:17] **sergeymasushko> IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry '17b20f118eb495409d6ffffd5' for key 1")
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:19] **sergeymasushko> Can anybody explain me what does it mean.
[06-Jan-2009 11:25:00] **mrayzenoss> Man, 8 months of mailing lists in my inbox and that's the first time I've seen it
[06-Jan-2009 11:26:13] **mrayzenoss> FreeBSD?
[06-Jan-2009 11:26:46] **sergeymasushko> as far as i understand ...1062, "Duplicate entry... can by caused by only by INSERT... but i'm tried to delete
[06-Jan-2009 11:27:08] **sergeymasushko> i'm using a wmvare zenoss 2.4
[06-Jan-2009 11:27:35] **mrayzenoss> I don't supposed you've rolled the 64-bit counter
[06-Jan-2009 11:28:04] **mrayzenoss> I'll try to get a dev to look at your post on zenoss-users
[06-Jan-2009 11:28:20] **mrayzenoss> search.zenoss.com didn't reveal anything
[06-Jan-2009 11:28:22] **sergeymasushko> thanks
[06-Jan-2009 11:29:55] **sergeymasushko> also i got the same error when i try to delete a event for this device. Maybe it is a root of the issue.
[06-Jan-2009 11:36:39] **sergeymasushko> One more question... i have an alert for UP/DOWN status of devices based on the "status/ping" event class. Each minute i receive up/down alerts on email for 3 devices. But i'm sure that these devices don't lost connection and work properly. what can caused it?
[06-Jan-2009 11:39:13] **sergeymasushko> mrayzenoss: sorry, i'm using 2.3.2 version.
[06-Jan-2009 13:42:25] **phrost6> anyway you can delete all discovered devices or at least turn snmp monitoring off?
[06-Jan-2009 13:47:19] **rhett> yes
[06-Jan-2009 13:47:28] **rhett> click on Devices under class
[06-Jan-2009 13:47:32] **rhett> click on discovered
[06-Jan-2009 13:48:02] **rhett> select all and go to to the drop down menu on the device list pane and go to delete
[06-Jan-2009 13:48:31] **rhett> you can also change the zproperties for the /Devices/Discovered class to not use snmp
[06-Jan-2009 13:48:52] **rhett> but you would have to push/remodel the devices after the changes had been made to zproperties
[06-Jan-2009 14:03:50] **nonsenso> i'm trying to use reportmail to send emails of reports.. i can't seem to figure out how to change the date range for the graphs..
[06-Jan-2009 14:04:22] **nonsenso> i tried doing a custom graph def with -s and -e for the ranges i want but it doesn't appear to work. any suggestions?
[06-Jan-2009 14:11:47] **bender183> hi, are the only methods that zenoss collects information through ssh and snmp ?
[06-Jan-2009 14:11:54] * bender183 is reading the manual atm
[06-Jan-2009 14:12:46] **rhett> what other solutions are you interested in
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:19] **bender183> well ssh creates a tremendous amount of load on the server, and snmp is a pos
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:21] **bender183> errrr
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:22] **bender183> pita
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:33] **bender183> something along the lines of nrpe
[06-Jan-2009 14:14:11] **rhett> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
[06-Jan-2009 14:14:19] **adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2009 14:15:39] **bender183> right ....but im not talking about plugins, im talking about the method of deliverance of data
[06-Jan-2009 14:15:44] **bender183> ie: daemons
[06-Jan-2009 14:18:45] **bender183> also if someone breaks ssh and you are using a common cert - which will happen - there will be issues
[06-Jan-2009 14:19:12] **bender183> i gotta say though, zenoss's dashboard beats the sh*t out of the nagios dashboard
[06-Jan-2009 14:20:22] **bender183> oh wait ....i just read something that said zenoss supports nrpe
[06-Jan-2009 14:20:22] **bender183>
[06-Jan-2009 14:35:55] **phrost6> rhett: thanks
[06-Jan-2009 14:36:09] **phrost6> now i just have to figure out why it keeps reporting free/used as unknown on all of the net-snmp centos boxes
[06-Jan-2009 14:37:21] **rhett> hm
[06-Jan-2009 14:37:56] **phrost6> i can see the proper data just fine with snmpwalk
[06-Jan-2009 14:38:12] **phrost6> zenplugin.py disk /mount works fine too
[06-Jan-2009 14:41:53] **phrost6> hrm uptime is showing as 00:00:00 too
[06-Jan-2009 14:43:50] **phrost6> now its working right, must have been snmp lag
[06-Jan-2009 14:44:27] **rhett> phrost6: if you 'snmpwalk -v version -c community host 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6' do you get proper results?
[06-Jan-2009 14:44:42] **rhett> oh nm
[06-Jan-2009 14:44:50] **rhett> i forgot to hit enter and no wi see you already stated that
[06-Jan-2009 14:49:26] **nonsenso> any ideas on setting the time range for graphs?
[06-Jan-2009 15:34:58] **phrost6> if you add a template is the template name global
[06-Jan-2009 15:35:11] **phrost6> eg can i create one called dell_omsa and add it to various servers or do i have to make one per device tree?
[06-Jan-2009 15:42:22] **rhett> u can map the template to various classes
[06-Jan-2009 15:51:58] **phrost6> can you do the same for systems / groups or are they just used for administrative organization?
[06-Jan-2009 18:10:20] **phrost6> rhett: heh now i have one centos 4 system reporting mount use as 0, but proper data is visible from 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6
[06-Jan-2009 18:10:33] **phrost6> rrdtool says %NaN
[06-Jan-2009 18:10:48] **rhett> hm
[06-Jan-2009 18:12:13] **phrost6> does it pull that over snmp usually or does it use zentools.py?
[06-Jan-2009 18:14:16] **rhett> i personally dont use the plugins and just use snmp so i am unsure
[06-Jan-2009 18:15:13] **rhett> you can try fetching from the rrd to see if there is actually any data in it
[06-Jan-2009 18:16:30] **rhett> rrdtool fetch pathtofileforgraph.rrd AVERAGE -r 300 -s 1 | tail -n 10
[06-Jan-2009 20:11:39] **phrost6> hmm
[06-Jan-2009 20:11:45] **phrost6> whats Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtin mean when using zcommand
[06-Jan-2009 20:11:45] **phrost6> lol
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[07-Jan-2009 02:46:02] **Gecko> How come zenoss keeps discovering an smtp service on my servers and polls it down right after...? That sounds more like invention than discovery
[07-Jan-2009 03:13:50] **Gecko> Anyone here?
[07-Jan-2009 03:16:20] **huggie> Gecko: Yes but there aren't many answers here.
[07-Jan-2009 03:31:02] **Gecko> huggie: true... Can you perhaps help me with my problem?
[07-Jan-2009 03:33:27] **huggie> I'm afraid it doesn't ring a bell.
[07-Jan-2009 03:34:55] **Gecko> right, thanks anyway
[07-Jan-2009 09:10:13] **jb> evt.component = "Node: %s:%s" % (gethostbyaddr(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode), evt.bigipNotifyObjPort)
[07-Jan-2009 09:10:17] **jb> anyone know why this isn't working?
[07-Jan-2009 09:10:25] **jb> it doesn't display anything.. it works without the gethostbyaddr()
[07-Jan-2009 15:34:04] **wassy121> Gecko: I found that zenoss will do that if the SMTP service is set to listen on 0.0.0.0:25, but iptables is blocking access from the monitor, the monitor will list it as down.
[07-Jan-2009 15:35:32] **wassy121> If you want to block remote access to port 25, I would suggest adding/editing the line in sendmail.mc to make it listen only on lo: DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl
[07-Jan-2009 15:36:41] **wassy121> So, zenoss reads the netstat output, sees that port 25 should be open to the entire world, sees that it (zenoss) has a monitoring plugin for port 25, so attempts to connect. Connection failed = service down.
[07-Jan-2009 15:37:22] **wassy121> (12 hours later, but he is still in channel. Maybe I helped
[07-Jan-2009 17:09:43] **Gecko> wassy121: you did
[07-Jan-2009 17:09:43] **Gecko>
[07-Jan-2009 17:09:58] **Gecko> wassy121: But does it read netstat through snmp?
[07-Jan-2009 17:12:56] **Gecko> I've found process monitoring quite unreliable though... Regex matching doesn't work as it should, and processes are polled down minutes after detected... Anyone else experience this?
[07-Jan-2009 17:14:38] **Gecko> (I'm here all the time, so just reply when you see the message... Don't worry about 12+ hours of delay)
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[08-Jan-2009 08:42:25] **wassy121> Gecko: Yes, it reads netstat through SNMP. I forget the OID range, but I am sure google knows Since zenoss polls every 5 minutes, its delay threshold is 0:01 to 4:59; a delay of 4 minutes until you get the email is fairly standard.
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[08-Jan-2009 10:01:39] **mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening
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[08-Jan-2009 10:04:47] **mrayzenoss> Lots of Zenoss developers here today, any questions?
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:06] **Cosmin> always
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:07] **Cosmin>
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:09] **Cosmin> good morning
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:46] **Cosmin> why isnt zenoss show all the routes for a linux device?
[08-Jan-2009 10:06:33] **Cosmin> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8431
[08-Jan-2009 10:06:40] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss not showing all the routes for an device (at forums.zenoss.com)
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:13] **jb> helllow
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:16] **cluther> If you have multiple routes to the same network, only one will be modeled. Is this the case for you?
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:22] **jb> hi matt/chet
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:35] **jb> cluther: thanks for the work on the bigip zenpack..
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:53] **Cosmin> mmmyes
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:17] **jb> hey kells
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:21] **Cosmin> hm... can that be overwrited?
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:27] **cluther> This is a limitation of how we represent routes in our model currently. We're using the netid as the key instead of the cidr representation.
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:28] **kells> Hi JB!
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:38] **cluther> Cosmin: Not in the near future, but we are thinking about it.
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:41] **jb> kells: did the guys get those B50's online?
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:53] **kells> They did, thank you!
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:02] **jb> any idea why this transform isn't working.. it validates, but doesn't display anything: evt.component = "Node: %s:%s" % (gethostbyaddr(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode), evt.bigipNotifyObjPort)
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:05] **Cosmin> ok thanks for that
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:08] **kells> We've actually got some of the new parsing stuff working on the test boxes, too!
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:10] **jb> without the gethostbyaddr() it works fine..
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:18] **jb> kells: awesome!
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:35] **jb> I'm anxious to see it..
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:00] **kells> There's still a lot of rough spots in it right now, unfortunately.
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:06] **cluther> jb: device.dmd.Devices.findDevice(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode)
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:09] **Cosmin> how about monitoring virtual hosts? like websites... i cant monitor more thatn one website because when i add another ip its reading the info for the website and it says that it already has it in and skipps it
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:10] **jb> its all SSH based, right?
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:16] **cluther> jb: Better than doing a gethostbyaddr in a transform
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:30] **kells> I'll be adding the documentation for it into the dev guide (which I got from another dev) in the next day or two
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:33] **cluther> jb.. oops.. device.dmd.Devices.findDevice(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode).id
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:35] **jb> cluther: hmm, ok.. let me try that.
[08-Jan-2009 10:11:19] **kells> jb: telnet might also be supported, IIRC
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:25] **jb> ok cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:38] **jb> i have to do something soon..
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:49] **kells> Were you looking for something else, in terms of protocols?
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:50] **jb> net-snmp dies as soon as AIX goes under stress..
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:55] **jb> no.. whatever works the best
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:00] **jb> which clearly is not SNMP on AIX
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:15] **jb> as long as we can model everything, and graphs, etc
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:16] **kells> Heh. AIX snmp dies regularly, even when totally relaxed.
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:28] **Cosmin> is there a way to monitor https web sites?
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:32] **jb> will all of that be supported?
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:44] **jb> Cosmin: you can use the naigos plugin..
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:57] **Cosmin> ok
[08-Jan-2009 10:14:29] **Cosmin> hwo about on windows 2003 server getting NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED when trying to pull using snmp
[08-Jan-2009 10:14:55] **jb> from your snmpwalk?
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:02] **jb> where do you see NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED?
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:14] **Cosmin> no
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:15] **Cosmin> hold on
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:23] **kells> jb: modelling will still be done through zenmodeler and the new parsing stuff for performance data (ie the stuff that gathers data for graphs) through zencommand
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:33] **jb> ah ok
[08-Jan-2009 10:16:11] **Cosmin> Could not read the status of Windows services (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[08-Jan-2009 10:16:32] **jb> are you speciying a zWinUser/Password with proper access?
[08-Jan-2009 10:16:41] **Cosmin> let me check
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:03] **Cosmin> no ...
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:09] **jb> thats your problem..
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:11] **Cosmin>
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:13] **Cosmin> thank you
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:22] **jb> yep
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:27] **Cosmin> should it be a domain user or local user is good?
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:37] **jb> local user with the proper access is fine..
[08-Jan-2009 10:18:22] **jb> I'm having a problem trying to stop monitoring certain windows services.. I have disabled the monitor on the device it's self, as well as in the /Services class, but I still get alerts that the service is down.. what do I need to do to completely stop monitoring these services for devices?
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:08] **cluther> 2.3.2?
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:17] **jb> yep
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:27] **jb> oh
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:29] **jb> actually no
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:30] **jb> 2.3.1
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:04] **jb> i didn't even know 2.3.2 was out :/
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:21] **jb> i will upgrade.. think that will be fixed?
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:29] **Cosmin> why cant i change the password for a zenoss user?
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:36] **Cosmin> i get
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:37] **cluther> No.. apparently not.. there is an open bug for this (#4192)
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> Type: TypeError
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> Value: iterable argument required
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> Traceback (innermost last):
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:40] **Cosmin> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:41] **cluther> Try this workaround..
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:42] **Cosmin> * Module Products.ZenModel.UserSettings, line 591, in manage_editUserSettings
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:43] **cluther> When you're globally disabling the monitoring of a Windows service do so at the Edit tab for the service class instead of the zProperties tab. If the service is already set to Monitor == False then use the Edit tab to set it back to true, then false again. After doing this for all affected services you should restart the zenwin daemon and manually move any of these improper /Status/WinService events to history.
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:44] **Cosmin> TypeError: iterable argument required
[08-Jan-2009 10:21:08] **jb> Hm. one sec.
[08-Jan-2009 10:23:12] **jb> Ok.. did that.. we will see if they come back. Thanks
[08-Jan-2009 10:23:35] **Cosmin> anyone?
[08-Jan-2009 10:23:58] **Cosmin> should i change permissions for the user or something?
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:02] **mrayzenoss> Cosmin: where is that happening? Which version?
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:07] **Cosmin> 2.3.2
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:40] **Cosmin> i added a zenuser and the loged in with it, tried to change the password
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:44] **Cosmin> and i cant
[08-Jan-2009 10:25:46] **mrayzenoss> firing up a 2.3.2 instance, I'll see what I get
[08-Jan-2009 10:27:42] **Cosmin> thank yuo
[08-Jan-2009 10:29:51] **jb> so.. hows blue crab coming?
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:33] **mrayzenoss> Cosmin: are you doing that as admin?
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:43] **Cosmin> yes i add the user as admin
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:51] **Cosmin> and the log in with the user that i added
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:57] **Cosmin> and try to change the password
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:04] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I get an error too
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:08] **mrayzenoss> I'll open a ticket
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:13] **Cosmin> cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:15] **Cosmin> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:18] **mrayzenoss> sorry about that
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:25] **kells> wrt blue crab: there's some bumps as there's still waaay too many open tickets, and requirements for new things pop up, and possibly a new (unexpected) point release.
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:38] **jb> cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:44] **jb> so the interface has been revamped?
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:56] **mrayzenoss> yeah, we'll have some Blue Crab wire frames soon
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:01] **jb> ok cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:09] **mrayzenoss> a lot of cleanups
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:15] **kells> Heh
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:59] **kells> Blue crab (as far as the UI is concerned) will probably be focussed on a few major workflows (ie the normal use cases)
[08-Jan-2009 10:35:30] **kells> As with any UI, there's lots of things that could be done, but only a finite amount of time to spend.
[08-Jan-2009 10:35:36] **jb> right..
[08-Jan-2009 10:35:40] **jb> UI is tricky business..
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:04] **jb> kells: you had said that initially, the AIX stuff will probably not model volume groups, etc, right?
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:11] **jb> just the filesystems
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:38] **Cosmin> ok now... why am i keep getting these? Error reading value for "ssCpuRawWait" on (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.54.0 is ...
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:58] **kells> jb: I'd better not comment on that until I actually try building a few modelers + collectors to see what the limitations are...
[08-Jan-2009 10:38:18] **Cosmin> i know its because its an older version of redhat
[08-Jan-2009 10:38:28] **Cosmin> but why are they keep clearing and comming back?
[08-Jan-2009 10:38:29] **kells> jb: errpt stuff also isn't on the table (but I'll probably put one in anyway )
[08-Jan-2009 10:39:14] **kells> jb: I don't have any experience with the new modelers, so please treat my comments as speculation rather than as fact
[08-Jan-2009 10:39:29] **mrayzenoss> created http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4243 for the broken password
[08-Jan-2009 10:40:26] **jb> sure
[08-Jan-2009 10:40:31] **jb> i didn't even think about errpt stuff
[08-Jan-2009 10:40:34] **jb> that would be awesome
[08-Jan-2009 10:41:08] **Cosmin> thank you mrayzenoss
[08-Jan-2009 10:41:22] **kells> I saw that I could toss in events into the performance gatherers and I thought "errpt would be cool to do!"
[08-Jan-2009 10:41:48] **jb> yes, very
[08-Jan-2009 10:42:59] **Cosmin> what do i need to do so that zenoss can pull the serial numbers, hw model, os make, os version etc
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:35] **jb> of what OS?
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:41] **jb> windows?
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:50] **Cosmin> windows and linux
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:58] **jb> are they dell or HP servers?
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:02] **Cosmin> dell
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:09] **jb> do you have openmanage installed on them?
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:17] **Cosmin> nope
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:24] **Cosmin> i guess that would be the problem?
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:27] **kells> cosmin: check out the 2.3.x version of the Dev guide if you're interested in programming one of your own modelers (ie the thing that grabs the serial numbers, hw models etc)
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:50] **jb> you will need to install openmanage on all of the linux boxes for this to work out of the box.. this also provides you with important SNMP traps (array alerts, etc), so you should really be doing that anyways
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:03] **jb> as far as windows.. install openmanage + snmp-informant for the best results
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:13] **Cosmin> i have snmp-informant
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:22] **Cosmin> on windows boxes
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:25] **Cosmin> ill look in to it
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:26] **jb> k.. you need openmanage
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:26] **Cosmin> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:44] **Cosmin> kells thanks for that ill look in to it see if i can come up with something
[08-Jan-2009 10:46:56] **Cosmin> oh and jb puttin the user and the password for that windows box didnt work
[08-Jan-2009 10:47:09] **Cosmin> i still get ould not read the status of Windows services (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[08-Jan-2009 10:47:51] **jb> you need to check your WMI connectivity
[08-Jan-2009 10:47:56] **jb> there are numerous threads in the forums
[08-Jan-2009 10:48:48] **Cosmin> let me try that again
[08-Jan-2009 10:48:53] **Cosmin> maybe i missedtyped
[08-Jan-2009 10:50:35] **Cosmin> anyone know why these alarms are keep clearing and comming back? Error reading value for "ssIORawSent" ?
[08-Jan-2009 10:55:04] **mrayzenoss> I'm not turning up anything on that, why don't you start a forum thread with all the details and maybe someone will have some insight
[08-Jan-2009 10:56:23] **Cosmin> ok
[08-Jan-2009 10:56:24] **Cosmin> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 11:03:28] **mrayzenoss> Thanks to everyone who stopped by, I'll have the transcript up shortly
[08-Jan-2009 11:04:08] **bill_> hi. I'm just looking into zenoss. can someone point me to how to get cpu monitoring to work on hp linux box?
[08-Jan-2009 11:04:29] **mrayzenoss> probably your best bet would be to use SNMP
[08-Jan-2009 11:04:53] **bill_> yes, but doesn't work with hp. works great with solaris
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:05] **mrayzenoss> we've got a Getting Started with Zenoss guide that will get you on your way: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/Getting_Started_with_Zenoss_2.3.pdf
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:29] **mrayzenoss> you may need to enable SNMP on your box
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:35] **cluther> bill_: There's also a very good HP-UX community ZenPack. It leverages the Emanate agent.
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:37] **mrayzenoss> which distro of Linux are you using?
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:57] **cluther> bill_: Ooops.. linux, nevermind.
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:57] **bill_> Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update 4)
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:58] **mrayzenoss> ahh, HPUX, I thought you said Linux on an HP box
[08-Jan-2009 11:06:39] **bill_> not sure if this helps: (08:46:11)[root@cmsapp2 TEST ~]# snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic 10.176.110.86 .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1 End of MIB
[08-Jan-2009 11:11:39] **cluther> bill_: Edit your /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[08-Jan-2009 11:12:01] **cluther> bill_: Find the line that begins with "view" and change the OID on the end of the line to just be ".1" instead of the long one.
[08-Jan-2009 11:12:08] **cluther> bill_: Then "service snmpd restart" and try the snmpwalk again.
[08-Jan-2009 11:13:34] **bill_> ah, that looks much better, thanks!!
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:17] **Cosmin> is there a way to do all the patches for zenoss?
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:21] **Cosmin> like update or something?
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:26] **Cosmin> or thats not a good idea?
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:58] **mrayzenoss> not sure that's the best idea, we typically try to roll out new maintenance releases that roll-up patches
[08-Jan-2009 11:15:18] **mrayzenoss> so if you had a specific error, you could get the patch from the proposed maintenance release before it comes out
[08-Jan-2009 11:16:37] **mrayzenoss> for example, here are the tickets currently assigned against 2.3.3 http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/query?col=id&col=summary&col=type&col=status&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component&order=priority&patch=2.3.3
[08-Jan-2009 11:16:56] **mrayzenoss> so you could apply the patches from closed tickets if they are relevant to you
[08-Jan-2009 11:17:23] **mrayzenoss> but no, we don't have an automated process for applying all available patches
[08-Jan-2009 11:19:58] **jb> are there any plan for reports via email?
[08-Jan-2009 11:20:01] **jb> plans
[08-Jan-2009 11:20:13] **jb> like.. a report that you could schedule to be emailed every day or so..
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:04] **cluther> jb: There's a tool that comes with zenoss called reportmail
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:11] **jb> ah ok
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:19] **cluther> jb: It allows you to email the contents of any page within the web interface from cron.
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:20] **jb> is it able to send graph's as well?
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:24] **cluther> jb: Yes.
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:25] **jb> oh ok
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:26] **jb> cool
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:29] **jb> i'll check that
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:33] **cluther> jb: reportmail --help
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:37] **jb> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 11:22:09] **cluther> jb: I'm not really as rude as IRC makes me out to be.
[08-Jan-2009 11:22:21] **jb> haha.. i don't think you are rude
[08-Jan-2009 11:24:46] **mrayzenoss> later everybody
[08-Jan-2009 11:24:50] **jb> seeya.
[08-Jan-2009 12:57:03] **wassy121> I have a zenoss server sitting behind a firewall with a tunnel to 6-8 different places. If the tunnel fails, I get 72834 alerts. Can I have a "tunnel" check that alerts only once when this happens?
[08-Jan-2009 12:58:16] **wassy121> It also has pubnet access to a few other sites as well. So, I can always tell when the tunnel blips as all my privnet machines generate an email for IP outage.
[08-Jan-2009 16:07:23] **nonsenso> anyone here?
[08-Jan-2009 16:07:45] **sergeymasushko> hello
[08-Jan-2009 16:08:10] **nonsenso> my events database is corrupted. i was wondering if i can safely just drop the db and recreate it
[08-Jan-2009 16:09:26] **sergeymasushko> hm... do you mean events that stored in the history?
[08-Jan-2009 16:10:26] **nonsenso> yeah
[08-Jan-2009 16:17:13] **sergeymasushko> hm... maybe you can set 'Delete Historical Events Older Than (days)' to '0' under the 'Event Manager' page. probably it will delete all previously saved events. and then return previous value. but it is just a guess.
[08-Jan-2009 16:51:33] **Faust-C> does anyone aside from myself use the "VMware Virtual Machines" zenpack?
[08-Jan-2009 16:51:59] **Faust-C> i've looked thru the whole pkg and still havent figured out how to properly get items to display
[08-Jan-2009 17:15:40] **gloin> Hey, I'm trying to acknolwedge an event by hitting the checkbox and then selecting ack from the dropdown, and the login prompt appears repeatedly even though I'm logged in correctly. How do I fix this?
[08-Jan-2009 17:17:03] **gloin> I should also mention that the moment I click into the username field of the login prompt, the prompt goes away and the checkbox next to the event I wanted to ack goes away as well.
[08-Jan-2009 17:20:38] **Faust-C> gloin: what linux?
[08-Jan-2009 17:21:00] **gloin> Faust-C: the server?
[08-Jan-2009 17:21:31] **gloin> debian etch, if you were asking about the server
[08-Jan-2009 17:26:23] **Faust-C> yeah
[08-Jan-2009 17:26:42] **gloin> known issue? How to fix?
[08-Jan-2009 17:26:57] **Faust-C> using native pkg or the binary stack
[08-Jan-2009 17:29:05] **gloin> looks like it was installed with apt
[08-Jan-2009 17:30:08] **gloin> ii zenoss-stack 2.2.4-0 Zenoss Stack with all requirements.
[08-Jan-2009 17:35:50] **Faust-C> thats the stack
[08-Jan-2009 17:35:56] **Faust-C> hmm what do logs say?
[08-Jan-2009 17:37:42] **gloin> where does zenoss stash its logs?
[08-Jan-2009 17:39:24] **Faust-C> i think /var/log but im not sure
[08-Jan-2009 17:40:15] **gloin> doesn't look that way
[08-Jan-2009 17:40:23] **Faust-C> sec lemme see
[08-Jan-2009 17:40:25] **gloin> (I didn't set this box up)
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:10] **Faust-C> /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/log
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:22] * Faust-C cd / && find . -name *zen*
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:34] **gloin> smoke comes from servers heh
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:38] **gloin> it's installed in /usr/local
[08-Jan-2009 17:43:29] **gloin> looks like it's a role problem
[08-Jan-2009 17:43:39] **gloin> the default admin user works fine
[08-Jan-2009 17:43:50] **gloin> but that's one heck of an error message
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:01] **gloin> ahh
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:01] **gloin> /usr/local/zenoss-2.2.3/zenoss/log)
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:21] **Faust-C> a lil diff than miune (ubuntu)
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:24] **Faust-C> err mine*
[08-Jan-2009 17:46:54] **gloin> actually, that isn't the current instance
[08-Jan-2009 17:46:55] **gloin> heh
[08-Jan-2009 17:46:58] **gloin> old version
[08-Jan-2009 20:07:09] **loflika> does anyone have a moment to help me set up Service Monitoring in Windows?
[08-Jan-2009 22:42:23] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[08-Jan-2009 22:42:30] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[09-Jan-2009 09:01:11] **Faust-C> when monitoring windows servers using snmp i get errors about wrong OID's
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[09-Jan-2009 10:50:32] **davetoo1> I keep forgetting about the thursday dev chats
[09-Jan-2009 10:51:46] **rjune> you missed it.
[09-Jan-2009 10:52:23] **davetoo1> I'll have to look at the logs; the one I made was pretty chaotic.
[09-Jan-2009 10:53:25] **davetoo1> Does anybody besides me care about zenhubworkers? Nobody ever answers me on the mailing list :
[09-Jan-2009 10:53:27] **davetoo1>
[09-Jan-2009 10:54:56] * Faust-C davetoo1 w00t
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[09-Jan-2009 10:59:42] **DaveToo1> I'm still not convinced they're a win, though.
[09-Jan-2009 11:00:14] **DaveToo1> My previous solution to the problem of zenhub being too busy to add new devices, or run a remodel,
[09-Jan-2009 11:01:25] **DaveToo1> was to run a second instance of the full zenhub on a different port, and change the default zenmodeler config to use that second hub. But that requires hacking in some new versions in ${ZENHOME}/bin.
[09-Jan-2009 11:01:52] **DaveToo1> That actually seems more stable.
[09-Jan-2009 11:02:31] **DaveToo1> But I'd rather go with a stock Zenoss config/feature than have to hack each of my installs.
[09-Jan-2009 13:35:33] **Faust-C> hmm zenoss is confused
[09-Jan-2009 13:35:39] **Faust-C> cause it says swap isnt met
[09-Jan-2009 13:35:43] **Faust-C> but none is being used
[09-Jan-2009 14:43:22] **BroncoBuster> Ok, so I loaded the zenpack for the cisco asa, then I added the template, how do view the vpn stats?
[09-Jan-2009 14:46:57] **BroncoBuster> Anyone have a clue?
[09-Jan-2009 14:52:09] **rhett_> unsure. i dont have any cisco devices :\
[09-Jan-2009 14:55:06] **BroncoBuster> lol I think it is installed right, but I dont get anything extra in the device. I didn't get any errors
[09-Jan-2009 14:56:45] **BroncoBuster> what kind of devices do you monitor? servers?
[09-Jan-2009 14:59:22] **rhett_> servers, firewalls, routers
[09-Jan-2009 14:59:24] **rhett_> switches
[09-Jan-2009 15:00:21] **BroncoBuster> right on
[09-Jan-2009 15:01:39] **BroncoBuster> I have been able to get everything to work but that so far, I'm just getting into zenoss
[09-Jan-2009 15:41:27] **gem-in-eye> Has anyone ever setup MPLS links in Zenoss Core?
[09-Jan-2009 15:41:43] **BroncoBuster> Anyone pop in that has the asa zenpack installed
[09-Jan-2009 15:42:09] **BroncoBuster> gem, I would think it would show up just like an interface if its a cisco device
[09-Jan-2009 15:43:00] **gem-in-eye> I have the routers at both ends but with MPLS AT&T manages the routes inbetween. It's not a point to point link.
[09-Jan-2009 15:43:30] **gem-in-eye> What's the asa zenpack? I don't see it on the site.
[09-Jan-2009 15:44:01] **BroncoBuster> It is supposed to give you an extra template to be able to pull vpn stats and ipsec drops
[09-Jan-2009 15:44:22] **BroncoBuster> But I can't figure out where to view it lol
[09-Jan-2009 15:45:25] **gem-in-eye> Right now I'm trying to sell my company on Zenoss. I wanted to show them a pretty google map with all the network links but we only have direct link that shows on the map.
[09-Jan-2009 15:46:54] **BroncoBuster> so you have like 3 sites and want lines drawn between them but the line isn't showing up?
[09-Jan-2009 15:48:12] **BroncoBuster> or its not showing up as a different site?
[09-Jan-2009 15:48:42] **gem-in-eye> We have many more then 3 but basically yeah. Router at site A has an IP given to us by ATT for it's next hop, same with router at site B. Both IP's aren't on the same network and ATT handles the routing between the two sites.
[09-Jan-2009 15:50:56] **gem-in-eye> When I add the IP's ATT gave us as devices all it can do is a ping test. Ideally I want a line drawn between sites A and B or at least a line drawn between site A and a location I assigned for where the ATT IP might reside.
[09-Jan-2009 15:51:18] **BroncoBuster> I got you. make sure that the devices are in different locations and make sure each location has that network listed and it should put a different dot and draw the line
[09-Jan-2009 15:53:28] **BroncoBuster> thats from what I understand anyway
[09-Jan-2009 15:53:53] **BroncoBuster> but I'm a jack of all trades and master of none
[09-Jan-2009 15:59:58] **gem-in-eye> It doesn't work. Because all I get is a ping check on the IP, even though I have it listed in the correct location, it can't figure out that the router should create a link between the two.
[09-Jan-2009 16:00:54] **BroncoBuster> does it put the dot, but no line?
[09-Jan-2009 16:01:01] **gem-in-eye> yep
[09-Jan-2009 16:01:49] **BroncoBuster> I have that problem with a ping only site. I have not had that problem with any snmp sites. Give me a minute and I'll test if I put snmp if the line appears
[09-Jan-2009 16:02:33] **gem-in-eye> I have snmp on my router, but the ping only site can't use snmp.
[09-Jan-2009 16:03:15] **gem-in-eye> I'd love to use snmp on the router IP ATT gave us but that's never going to happen.
[09-Jan-2009 16:05:39] **BroncoBuster> is it a cisco?
[09-Jan-2009 16:07:42] **BroncoBuster> you have any other devies on the remote side?
[09-Jan-2009 16:10:53] **BroncoBuster> I'm trying it now, but it wont update lol
[09-Jan-2009 16:41:42] **loflika> gem-in-eye, you have a managed circuit through ATT?
[09-Jan-2009 16:41:50] **loflika> they should give you the SNMP string for it
[09-Jan-2009 16:56:44] **BroncoBuster> I can't get the line to draw on two sites either lol
[09-Jan-2009 16:57:13] **BroncoBuster> all the ones that are connected to a t1 to our router works
[09-Jan-2009 16:58:45] **BroncoBuster> I must be doing something wrong, I have 2 zenoss boxes monitoring 2 different networks with the same result. Anyone have a clue?
[09-Jan-2009 17:02:52] **BroncoBuster> I found the answer, if the locations don't share a common network it will not draw the line, now to figure out how to get around it
[09-Jan-2009 17:40:23] **baggend> Is there any way to edit the parameters (name, max speed, etc) of an interface that was auto-discovered on a device? All I appear to be able to change is the Monitor setting. (using zenoss core)
[09-Jan-2009 17:41:29] **BroncoBuster> anyone have a work around for getting the line to draw on networks through a vpn?
[09-Jan-2009 17:42:01] **BroncoBuster> Also does anyone know where I get the vpn stats once the asa zenpack installed?
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[10-Jan-2009 18:13:20] **jetole> hey guys
[10-Jan-2009 18:14:24] **jetole> complete zenoss newbie here and I am wondering if it is possible to have multiple zenoss systems linked together so that in the event that one loses it's connection to the net, it won't report hundreds of downed services
[10-Jan-2009 19:21:28] **Faust-C> jetole: of course
[10-Jan-2009 19:21:37] **Faust-C> you can have multiple nodes
[10-Jan-2009 19:28:12] **jetole> sweet
[10-Jan-2009 19:28:16] **jetole> thanks Faust-C
[10-Jan-2009 19:31:44] **Faust-C> yw'
[10-Jan-2009 19:33:27] **jetole> yay, downloading windows 7 beta
[10-Jan-2009 19:33:32] * jetole rolls his eyes
[10-Jan-2009 20:09:09] **phrost6> hmm we have 1 system that's reporting 0% cpu idle but it's actually 400% when you login to the box
[10-Jan-2009 20:09:16] **phrost6> any ideas where i'd look to figure that one out
[10-Jan-2009 20:09:25] **phrost6> zen sees it as 0% on sys/user/wait/idle
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[11-Jan-2009 07:58:59] **axisys> pas
[11-Jan-2009 11:51:11] **cereal> i am receiving traps from a cisco switch and i'm trying to actually make the events useful. currently all i get is 'snmp linkdown', does anyone know where a getting started section for event transforming is? I have been reading the forums for a while and there are lots of questions but few if any answers to guide me in getting started.
[11-Jan-2009 11:51:38] **cereal> so far i know that i am given 'evt' and 'dev' but i know nothing about those objects...thus its driving me insane trying to figure them out.
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[12-Jan-2009 03:01:05] **daans> anyone here who can help me with creating a performence report from a selection of guests running in our virtual infrastructure
[12-Jan-2009 07:02:18] Danuvius_ is now known as daans
[12-Jan-2009 12:51:48] **loflika> Does anyone have Zenoss working with a non-administrative account with WMI Support? I'm having some trouble on 2003 Servers and have hit a dead end searching forum / on-line docs.
[12-Jan-2009 13:07:34] **loflika> Does anyone have Zenoss working with a non-administrative account with WMI Support? I'm having some trouble on 2003 Servers and have hit a dead end searching forum / on-line docs.
[12-Jan-2009 14:54:01] **jiffe88> the sourceforge mirror hosting zenoss is ass slow right now
[12-Jan-2009 14:58:25] **teletype> Hi, I'm trying to set up monitoring via WMI using a non-admin user account. I've created the account, allowed it via dcomcnfg, granted perms to CIMV2 and perfmon trees via wmimgmt.msc. I've even tried granting it perms to Root (recursive to children), no dice. I can make queries via wmic though. Anyone have any idea what I may be missing?
[12-Jan-2009 14:58:34] **teletype> works fine as Administrator
[12-Jan-2009 15:04:22] **loflika> i had the same issue
[12-Jan-2009 15:04:27] **loflika> or have the same issue
[12-Jan-2009 15:05:17] **teletype> i preferred the past tense version =)
[12-Jan-2009 15:05:55] **loflika> i found an article on-line im trying to find it again to link it
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:28] **loflika> its pretty much said that its a known thing
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:34] **loflika> and there's no fix
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:43] **teletype> there's always a fix
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:47] **loflika> i dont know though, if someone was able to create a WMI account other than admin
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:51] **loflika> ive been digging for a week
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:53] **teletype> o
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:55] **loflika> without success
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:57] **teletype> i'm going to have to
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:10] **loflika> i did everything dcom permissions and WMI permissions
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:11] **teletype> that's a dealbreaker for us
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:12] **loflika> and it still fails
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:44] **loflika> well i created an account
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:47] **loflika> and gave it local admin
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:58] **teletype> yeah, i don't want it to have any admin access at all
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:04] **loflika> right me either
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:08] **loflika> im testing around on my demo box
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:11] **teletype> did it work when you gave it local admin?
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:15] **loflika> yeah it did
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:19] **teletype> hrm...
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:33] **baggend> Anyone know if it's possible to feed zenoss historical MRTG data? We've been using MRTG for years, and are wanting to move to Zenoss, but we'd like to have the historical data reflected in Zenoss if possible.
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:50] **baggend> (particularly for bandwidth usage trends)
[12-Jan-2009 15:09:11] **teletype> mrtg uses rrd, right?
[12-Jan-2009 15:09:18] **teletype> you could probably do it with rrdtool dump/restore
[12-Jan-2009 15:10:45] **baggend> Err, mrtg *can* use RRD. Our old install just uses the standard text-file format. Though I think there is a rrd conversion tool.
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:04] **baggend> If I can get the data into RRD, how can I restore it to the zenoss logs? (i.e. where does it store the logs?)
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:17] **loflika> teletype what error do you get
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:23] **loflika> when you try query with a different account
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:28] **loflika> from the wmitest tool
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:31] **teletype> NTSTATUS: NT code 0xc0041003 - NT code 0xc0041003
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:38] **loflika> 80041003?
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:48] **teletype> c0041003 it says
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:49] **loflika> 1003 means dcom
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:58] **loflika> have you set your decom permissions for that user yet?
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:00] **loflika> sec
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:04] **loflika> let me dig instructions
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:22] **teletype> yes, i can query it via wmic
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:26] **baggend> cd o
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:26] **baggend> ls
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:27] **loflika> hm ok
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:29] **baggend> whoops
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:36] **loflika> i remember seeing that error described
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:52] **loflika> my issue was 41001
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:10] **teletype> doesn't help that i'm pretty clueless w/ windows, heh
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:13] **loflika> haha
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:14] **loflika> ok sec
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:21] **loflika> i hate windows also
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:24] **teletype> then again so is our mcse =)
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:24] **loflika> im a unix guy
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:27] **teletype> same
[12-Jan-2009 15:15:58] **krphop> oh you have a minesweeper certified solitare expert in house?
[12-Jan-2009 15:15:59] **krphop> damn
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:13] **loflika> 0x80041003 (WBEM_E_ACCESS_DENIED)
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:13] **loflika> This typically results when the process trying to access the namespace does not have the required WMI privileges. The account attempting remote access should be an administrator on the target computer; in addition, the account might need to have a specific privilege enabled.
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:13] **loflika> To troubleshoot this error, check the namespace security on the remote namespace to see the privileges enabled for the account.
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:18] **loflika> sec
[12-Jan-2009 15:19:02] **teletype> yeah, right now i'm trying with full r/w/exec/everything perms on Root namespace, recursive to all children
[12-Jan-2009 15:19:03] **teletype> no dice
[12-Jan-2009 15:20:06] **loflika> check this out
[12-Jan-2009 15:20:07] **loflika> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/29502240/some-80041001-generic-fai.aspx
[12-Jan-2009 15:20:11] **loflika> read the end of that thread
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:24] **loflika> You did this?
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> DCOM permissions using dcomcnfg
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> modifying the "Edit Default" in Access Permissions and Launch and activations
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> permissions. I've changed the "Edit Limits" options in the "Launch and
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> activations Permissions".
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:07] **teletype> hrm
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:21] **teletype> i changed it in 'edit limits' but not edit default
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:42] **loflika> should matter that much
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:51] **teletype> like i said though, i can make queries via wmic
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:55] **loflika> yeah
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:00] **loflika> it sounds like that works fine
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:31] **loflika> it pisses me off that services arent monitored via snmp
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:38] **loflika> why do i need retarded wmi
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:48] **loflika> frustrating
[12-Jan-2009 15:24:02] **loflika> there are oid's for services etc..
[12-Jan-2009 15:25:13] **teletype> hrm
[12-Jan-2009 15:25:52] **teletype> actually i take that back. i can do some queries via wmi but not others. "select * from Win32_ComputerSystem" works. "select * from Win32_PerfRawData_PerfOS_Memory" gets me a 0xc0041003
[12-Jan-2009 15:26:12] **loflika> with your non-admin user?
[12-Jan-2009 15:26:16] **teletype> yes
[12-Jan-2009 15:26:36] **loflika> hm I can login with my nonadmin user but i get an error just running the basic query
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:02] **teletype> and just as you said, i just tried adding it to the administrators group and i can run that last query just fine now. hrm.
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:08] **teletype> annoyance
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:12] **loflika> and i had set all my dcom and wmi priveleges to as much permissions as possible
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:18] **loflika> yeah
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:21] **teletype> yeah, that's what i did as a test, too
[12-Jan-2009 15:28:24] **loflika> lots of peeps in here, anyone able to get that to work?
[12-Jan-2009 15:30:30] **teletype> sigh. and it would seem adding to the administrators group allows them to see EVERYTHING via WMI even if you've specifically disallowed it...
[12-Jan-2009 15:30:44] **teletype> so what's the bloody point of allowing you to set the permissions heh
[12-Jan-2009 15:36:59] **igowest> i am having a problem with zenoss not emailing alerts, even when I generate an event
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:05] **igowest> but command line all ok
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:24] **igowest> can anyone help
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:25] **loflika> did you give it a mail server in the config?
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:33] **igowest> had it as localhost
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:40] **igowest> now i have it as its ip
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:41] **loflika> your sendmail may not be set up properly
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:49] **loflika> have you checked you /var/log/mail
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:51] **igowest> it works on command line
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:53] **loflika> seeing if messages are sent?
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:54] **loflika> ah
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:10] **igowest> as root or as zenoss user
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:17] **loflika> try as zenoss user
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:24] **igowest> i am running ubuntu
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:33] **igowest> i did all ok
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:33] **loflika> i had it working on centos
[12-Jan-2009 15:39:40] **igowest> so no ideas
[12-Jan-2009 15:41:02] **loflika> have you tried using a different mailserver other than localhost?
[12-Jan-2009 15:42:07] **loflika> a different mail relay rather
[12-Jan-2009 15:44:13] **igowest> yes
[12-Jan-2009 15:44:15] **igowest> still no go
[12-Jan-2009 15:44:26] **igowest> so got to do with config of zenoss
[12-Jan-2009 15:46:49] **baggend> igowest: If your mail from header is @localhost, most MTA's will never accept the message. How are you testing from the command line?
[12-Jan-2009 17:24:16] **perr0> da new search function on zenoss forum blows
[12-Jan-2009 17:24:33] **perr0> I want back the old search function
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[13-Jan-2009 00:12:13] **raddy> Hello
[13-Jan-2009 00:12:18] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[13-Jan-2009 03:23:35] **c0nfl|ct> bom dia mundo
[13-Jan-2009 11:15:05] **wassy121> Hello, is there any way to make devices sit "behind" a switch, so that when the switch goes down I don't get 100 alerts for all the machines connected, just one big red one for the switch itself?
[13-Jan-2009 11:18:56] **nemo_> are you monitoring a router ?
[13-Jan-2009 11:19:51] **nemo_> as i understand , zenoss works out topology from snmp on routers
[13-Jan-2009 11:20:01] **nemo_> i am not doing it myself, therefore suffering the same
[13-Jan-2009 11:26:32] **wassy121> Right, but if the router fails, the alerts are generated for all machines behind said router, right?
[13-Jan-2009 11:26:45] **wassy121> In my case, it is a VPN tunnel that fails for a few minutes at a time.
[13-Jan-2009 11:27:21] **nemo_> i still think zenoss requires a layer 3 device to read to work out topology
[13-Jan-2009 11:27:24] **nemo_> thats what i read
[13-Jan-2009 11:27:36] **nemo_> gtg, tomorrow !
[13-Jan-2009 11:31:53] **wassy121> tks.
[13-Jan-2009 11:35:24] **cereal_> does anyone know a good starting point for event transforms?
[13-Jan-2009 11:35:45] **cereal_> i want to make the snmp events for linkdown and linkup actually be meaningful rather than -- not
[13-Jan-2009 11:49:14] **igowest> is there any1 who can help me troubleshoot email alerts not being sent on a ubuntu server
[13-Jan-2009 11:50:37] **perr0> igowest: what do you mean
[13-Jan-2009 11:50:49] **perr0> from zenoss or the server itself?
[13-Jan-2009 11:51:06] **igowest> well I know my email system works because on command line i can email with root and with a zenoss user
[13-Jan-2009 11:51:18] **igowest> but when alert comes in, I do not get alerts
[13-Jan-2009 11:51:29] **igowest> it is like it does not run an email process at all
[13-Jan-2009 11:52:01] **igowest> i have smtp host as localhost on port 25
[13-Jan-2009 11:52:33] **perr0> right so the issue i troubleshooting e-mail on zenoss?
[13-Jan-2009 11:52:53] **igowest> i would think its zenoss, cause email system works
[13-Jan-2009 11:53:11] **igowest> oops yes email on zenoss
[13-Jan-2009 11:53:35] **Pinger> afternoon (if you're in EST)
[13-Jan-2009 11:53:54] **igowest> afty to you too
[13-Jan-2009 11:55:10] **Pinger> got a question about monitoring APC PDUs
[13-Jan-2009 11:55:44] **Pinger> specifically...can you?
[13-Jan-2009 11:58:53] **Pinger> I have an APC PDU, switched...and I need to monitor the power usage per outlet...which you can't do via their interface
[13-Jan-2009 11:59:35] **perr0> igowest: did you look into yout zenactions.log for information
[13-Jan-2009 11:59:41] **perr0> your
[13-Jan-2009 12:00:18] **perr0> $HOME_ZENOSS/zenoss/logs
[13-Jan-2009 12:03:38] **igowest> says ZenACtions:Processed 0 commands in 0.00031
[13-Jan-2009 12:03:46] **igowest> not more than that
[13-Jan-2009 12:05:46] **igowest> is zenmail suppost to be running
[13-Jan-2009 12:07:11] **perr0> igowest: do you have it configured in settings with an actual SMTP username and password?
[13-Jan-2009 12:14:01] **igowest> no username/password
[13-Jan-2009 12:15:45] **perr0> there you go
[13-Jan-2009 12:16:17] **perr0> oops wrong window
[13-Jan-2009 12:17:49] **igowest> huh ?
[13-Jan-2009 12:18:14] **igowest> why would i need username password setup for smtp
[13-Jan-2009 12:35:48] **perr0> usually for relays I would imagine
[13-Jan-2009 12:35:55] **perr0> or for security
[13-Jan-2009 12:43:24] **igowest> no server is wide open
[13-Jan-2009 12:43:31] **igowest> so no need for username/password
[13-Jan-2009 12:43:57] **igowest> the thing is that we do not see anything in actions log
[13-Jan-2009 12:44:09] **igowest> i would at least see something there
[13-Jan-2009 12:55:51] **igowest> ok found el problemo
[13-Jan-2009 12:56:07] **igowest> alerting rules do not work with the admin user
[13-Jan-2009 12:56:14] **igowest> you need to create a new user
[13-Jan-2009 16:59:23] **gem-in-eye> I've got a dumb question. What's the difference between the Stack Installer for CentOS and the Native packages for CentOS 5?
[13-Jan-2009 17:00:36] **rhett_> stack has all the dependencies int he package
[13-Jan-2009 17:01:15] **rhett_> so if you dont to install mysql swig and the various other packages you may need stack is the way to go
[13-Jan-2009 17:02:23] **gem-in-eye> I'm doing a fresh install of the machine. I want the best performance and the Native packages looked specific to CentOS 5 which is what I'm using. Wouldn't that be better, perhaps not easier though.
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[14-Jan-2009 03:15:54] **daans> anyone here that could give some help with transforms (event management)?
[14-Jan-2009 03:16:22] **daans> When I add a transfor to an event class do I need to restart a sevice to become active?
[14-Jan-2009 03:16:30] **daans> sevice=service
[14-Jan-2009 03:46:43] **c0nfl|ct> bom dia mundo
[14-Jan-2009 04:00:04] **nemo_> bom dia amigos
[14-Jan-2009 06:49:25] **nemo_> daans, no restart needed
[14-Jan-2009 06:49:32] **nemo_> where are you adding the transform ?
[14-Jan-2009 06:49:44] **nemo_> do it on the device class level, not the event class
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:13] **nemo_> i am trying to call self.renameDevice('string')
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:14] **daans> hm ok....
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:28] **nemo_> but it doesnt seem to like having the same name, just lower cased
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:32] **nemo_> any tips?
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:38] **nemo_> i need them all lower case
[14-Jan-2009 06:52:00] **daans> I added one in the even class...
[14-Jan-2009 06:52:44] **nemo_> how are you adding one, while your mapping events ?
[14-Jan-2009 06:56:36] **daans> I'm just start working with the events.... What I'm trying to achieve that events of level debugging of devices in a certain location get another level
[14-Jan-2009 06:57:24] **daans> So I added a mapping, but i don't know what eventclass key to use to map internal generated events (from zenperfsnmp)
[14-Jan-2009 06:58:32] **daans> so in /perf/snmp i clicked o nthe trinagle to open the menu -> more -> transform and let them change the eventclasskey
[14-Jan-2009 06:59:20] **daans> so I could use the mapping with a certain eventclasskey
[14-Jan-2009 07:01:05] **daans> at least thats how I understood it worked...
[14-Jan-2009 07:04:16] **nemo_> well its kinda hard to debug what your doing without seeing it
[14-Jan-2009 07:04:34] **nemo_> transforms are working ok for me, done in a similar way to how you explain it
[14-Jan-2009 07:04:43] **nemo_> what does your logs tell you
[14-Jan-2009 07:10:43] **daans> what log file do i need to look to
[14-Jan-2009 07:13:16] **daans> hub log file?
[14-Jan-2009 07:24:22] **nemo_> grep em all why dont ya
[14-Jan-2009 07:52:34] **nemo_> how can i lower case names in the zenoss db
[14-Jan-2009 07:52:42] **nemo_> anyone dealt with that?
[14-Jan-2009 08:43:45] **daans> The transforms are working now... Now I struggeling with the event mappings..
[14-Jan-2009 08:43:58] **daans> when i have a mapping with a transform
[14-Jan-2009 08:44:27] **daans> when is this performed? When the events is stored?
[14-Jan-2009 08:45:12] **nemo_> an event is transformed and then enters the db, afaik
[14-Jan-2009 08:51:06] **daans> ok
[14-Jan-2009 08:51:45] **daans> thnx. Is there a way to test the correctness of a Rule in a mapping...
[14-Jan-2009 09:02:37] **nemo_> tail the zenhub.log
[14-Jan-2009 09:02:44] **nemo_> look for them coming through
[14-Jan-2009 09:03:02] **daans> ok....
[14-Jan-2009 09:05:50] **daans> what logging level do I need to see them? I genererated an event, but nothing happen in the log file
[14-Jan-2009 09:07:17] **nemo_> i usually go for 10
[14-Jan-2009 10:00:44] **daans> nemo_ thnx for the help so far....
[14-Jan-2009 10:01:03] **daans> I getting there were I want
[14-Jan-2009 10:02:00] **daans> one final question.. Now I want to add an event command, however that command should be executed on a collector and not on the hub....
[14-Jan-2009 10:03:25] **nemo_> the hub is the focal point for ALL events, regardless of which collector they come from
[14-Jan-2009 10:03:46] **nemo_> make sure your daemons on the collector are sending to the right hubhost
[14-Jan-2009 10:07:27] **daans> ok... But I want a command to be performed on certain events.
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:15] **daans> however this command has to be executed on the hub were the event oiginated from
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:33] **nemo_> there is only one hub
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:41] **daans> true
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:41] **nemo_> i dont see where you can be confused
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:57] **nemo_> events originate at collectors
[14-Jan-2009 10:09:03] **nemo_> which are grouped at hubs
[14-Jan-2009 10:09:49] **daans> yes... and based on events from an event a device that is monitoerd by the collector I want to remodel the device
[14-Jan-2009 10:10:38] **daans> zo in event manager I created an event command
[14-Jan-2009 10:12:02] **daans> zo = so
[14-Jan-2009 10:12:40] **daans> but how do I start a remodel of a certain device (that can only be reached from the collector)
[14-Jan-2009 10:13:54] **daans> zenmodeler -d $device does not work, because than the modeling is started at the hub an not on the collector
[14-Jan-2009 10:25:50] **daans> nemo_ thanks for the help today....
[14-Jan-2009 11:08:52] **rhett_> ladies
[14-Jan-2009 11:09:05] **rhett_> wrong window AGAIN
[14-Jan-2009 11:29:53] **IoNu|z> anone know where /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/zenoss/plugins/common.py got moved to?
[14-Jan-2009 13:11:55] **IoNu|z> anone know where /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/zenoss/plugins/common.py got moved to?
[14-Jan-2009 13:13:30] **rhett_> did you try an 'updatedb' and then a 'locate common.py' ?
[14-Jan-2009 13:48:52] **IoNu|z> yes
[14-Jan-2009 13:49:05] **IoNu|z> and i cant find the file that contains the stuff that i need
[14-Jan-2009 14:03:11] **gem-in-eye> Does anyone know how to get the URL's in emails to be valid and not http://localhost.localdomain:8080? The forums have been a runaround for me.
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[14-Jan-2009 14:12:28] **gem-in-eye> Does anyone know how to get the URL's in emails to be valid and not use localhost.localdomain at the servers hostname? The forums have been a runaround for me.
[14-Jan-2009 14:15:41] **teletype> has anyone been able to get zenoss to monitor a windows server via WMI without using an administrator account?
[14-Jan-2009 14:16:11] **teletype> i added perms in dcomcnfg and wmimgmt.msc, no dice...
[14-Jan-2009 14:50:17] **IoNu|z> teletype i can only get everything with credentials
[14-Jan-2009 14:52:38] **teletype> i think i figured it out
[14-Jan-2009 14:52:41] **teletype> will know in a sec
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:00] **teletype> yup!
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:53] **teletype> had to create a 'zenoss' user, add them to the 'Distributed COM Users' and 'Performance Log Users' group, that gave the account access to everything but the Service manager. to do that i had to do:
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:59] **teletype> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>sc sdset SCMANAGER D:(A;;CCLCRPRC;;;AU)(
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:59] **teletype> A;;CCLCRPWPRC;;;SY)(A;;KA;;;BA)S:(AU;FA;KA;;;WD)(AU;OIIOFA;GA;;;WD)
[14-Jan-2009 14:55:00] **teletype> [SC] SetServiceObjectSecurity SUCCESS
[14-Jan-2009 16:51:27] **operat0r> Hello all
[14-Jan-2009 16:52:16] **rhett_> hello
[14-Jan-2009 16:53:53] **operat0r> I load up using zenmib all CPQ*.mib ok and the OID's are in the mibs loaded but I still get .#.#.#.# at the end when it should be FanFailBlalalETc
[14-Jan-2009 16:54:17] **operat0r> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=30025 is my post
[14-Jan-2009 16:54:25] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - mibs on multi devices still not resolving to names (at forums.zenoss.com)
[14-Jan-2009 17:18:34] **operat0r> posted a screen shot
[14-Jan-2009 17:28:37] **gem-in-eye> Anyone familiar with WMI?
[14-Jan-2009 17:35:28] **loflika> what you trying to do gem-in-eye
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:04] **gem-in-eye> I've got a domain account and I'm logging into Windows boxes okay. It's collection service info but none of the physical data like network, disks, or CPU.
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:21] **gem-in-eye> My OS tab is completly empty
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:30] **loflika> hm
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:40] **loflika> i have mine running with SNMP and WMI
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:45] **loflika> im not sure if you can just run WMI to get that info
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:56] **loflika> snmp is super easy to set up
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:56] **loflika> since it comes native
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:59] **loflika> just set up a group and go
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:05] **loflika> in SNMP Service
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:08] **gem-in-eye> I'm getting data on the boxes that run SNMP, but I don't manage the servers and I've been told to use WMI since it's already active.
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:18] **loflika> hmm
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:24] **loflika> im not sure how to use WMI to get that data
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:28] **loflika> i havent tried
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:31] **loflika> since im running snmp and
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:34] **loflika> SNMPv2
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:37] **loflika> and WMI
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:46] **gem-in-eye> We have someone using PRTG and he's getting all the info through WMI.
[14-Jan-2009 17:46:27] **loflika> interesting
[14-Jan-2009 17:46:30] **loflika> im going to have to check it out
[14-Jan-2009 17:46:33] **loflika> its got to be scripted
[14-Jan-2009 18:17:34] **gem-in-eye> I figured it out. The PRTG my other guy has IS using WMI and SNMP. Someone set it up and didn't tell the Windows admin.
[14-Jan-2009 18:18:07] **gem-in-eye> Unfortunately even when I put in the same community string and version, SNMP is still failing.
[14-Jan-2009 18:23:08] **loflika> hah
[14-Jan-2009 18:23:11] **loflika> makes sense now
[14-Jan-2009 18:23:42] **gem-in-eye> Yeah, but why snmp doesn't work from zenoss doesn't make sense. It works on all my unix boxes, just not some windows
[14-Jan-2009 18:27:06] **gem-in-eye> Ok, perhaps I should actually look at my screen before I assume I know what it says. I can't connect to the SNMP agents because someone turned them off. No data has been collected since Monday.
[14-Jan-2009 18:27:37] **gem-in-eye> Is SNMPv2c backward compatible with v1?
[14-Jan-2009 18:27:47] **loflika> not exactly
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:06] **loflika> because you restrict snmpv2 to allow only a certain ip / networks
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:15] **loflika> so the two are quite different
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:21] **loflika> now
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:24] **loflika> SNMP itself
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:28] **loflika> on unix
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:29] **loflika> can do v3
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:31] **loflika> v2c
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:32] **loflika> and 1
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:37] **loflika> so it is backwards compatible
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:43] **loflika> but they require a whole different set of configs
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:47] **loflika> that differ from just v1
[14-Jan-2009 18:41:54] **gem-in-eye> Where do the mibs go? I'm moving from the VM to an installed stack but the location the instructions talk about doesn't exist.
[14-Jan-2009 19:05:04] **gem-in-eye> Found it. Things change too often.
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[15-Jan-2009 03:22:58] **c0nfl|ct> bom dia
[15-Jan-2009 03:27:57] **daans> good morning...
[15-Jan-2009 03:30:19] **daans> how can I initiate a remodel action (preferable via de command prompt, or with som lines ofpython) on a device that is monitored by a "remote" collector?
[15-Jan-2009 03:40:06] **daans> found the answer on the wiki!
[15-Jan-2009 03:40:18] **daans> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/model-a-device/
[15-Jan-2009 03:40:33] **adytum-bot> Title: Model A Device - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2009 07:46:46] **izabel> hi everybody! could you help me with REST call? How can I insert to the device properties the google map coordinates(Street and bulding number)? Is it possible? I need to insert for about 2000 devices with wget.
[15-Jan-2009 08:50:35] **nemo_> whos upgraded to 2.3.2 ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:50:41] **nemo_> imma do it this weekend
[15-Jan-2009 08:52:13] **jmp242> I haven't
[15-Jan-2009 08:52:17] **jmp242> I'm waiting for 2.3.3
[15-Jan-2009 08:54:10] **nemo_> any reason jmp242 ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:54:14] **nemo_> should i wait also
[15-Jan-2009 08:54:43] **nemo_> i was avoiding 2.3.0
[15-Jan-2009 08:55:44] **jmp242> Well, there still seemed to be a bunch of regressions and reports with 2.3.2 in the forums
[15-Jan-2009 08:55:57] **jmp242> I've seen several posts on things being fixed for the next maintenence release
[15-Jan-2009 08:56:21] **jmp242> I've found waiting for x.x.3 or higher seems prudent for me, I don't have time to be a beta tester right now
[15-Jan-2009 08:56:46] **kim0> Hi everyone, can zenoss core do service dependencies .. so that if my VMware ESX server fails .. I don't get a lot of warnings per each VM ?!
[15-Jan-2009 08:56:58] **nemo_> jmp242, same same
[15-Jan-2009 08:57:05] **nemo_> any idea when 2.3.3 is out ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:57:32] **jmp242> sadly no
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:02] **nemo_> i have to make appointments for changes
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:08] **nemo_> approval etc
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:20] **kim0> service dependencies possible ??
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:58] **nemo_> kim0, afaik its about network topology and read also in the admin guide how to make a dependancy manually
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:39] **kim0> nemo_: I know zenoss handles network deps automatically .. but r u sure I can set arbitrary deps ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:44] **kim0> never seen that before
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:46] **nemo_> yes
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:48] **nemo_> google on it
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:55] **adytum-bot> nemo_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[15-Jan-2009 09:00:00] **kim0> hmm ... ok googling
[15-Jan-2009 09:00:47] **nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-manual-device-dependencys
[15-Jan-2009 09:01:07] **adytum-bot> Title: Create manual device dependencies - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2009 09:01:52] **Faust-C> has anyone gotten more info on the VMwareESX-Virtual Machines plugin?
[15-Jan-2009 09:02:30] **nemo_> didnt seem to work for me Faust-C
[15-Jan-2009 09:02:44] **nemo_> so i left it for a while. no help for you, sorry
[15-Jan-2009 09:03:06] **Faust-C> nemo_: yeha i thought so
[15-Jan-2009 09:03:26] **Faust-C> i wish i knew more so i could contribute
[15-Jan-2009 15:35:34] **gem-in-eye> Has anyone had problems loading the SNMPv2-TC mib?
[15-Jan-2009 21:07:55] **operat0r> gem-in-eye:
[15-Jan-2009 21:08:00] **operat0r> you there ?
[15-Jan-2009 21:08:40] **operat0r> pastebin.ca the full log of when you ran zemmib im having issues with mibs resolving
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[16-Jan-2009 03:51:48] **gem-in-eye> operat0r, you there?
[16-Jan-2009 03:53:19] **gem-in-eye> It turned out my problem was the SMIPATH variable wasn't set. After I exported it the mib loaded without issue.
[16-Jan-2009 03:55:18] **nemo_> interesting
[16-Jan-2009 08:09:31] **klinstifen> Morning all
[16-Jan-2009 08:09:47] **klinstifen> anyone worked with zenmail and zenpop?
[16-Jan-2009 08:32:47] **klinstifen> Is anyone using zenpop3 to ack events that are emailed to them?
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:28] **Cosmin> anyone online here?
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:32] **Cosmin> zenplugin.py apache-ssl
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:32] **Cosmin> collector 'apache-ssl' doesn't exist on platform 'linux2'
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:44] **Cosmin> did anybody see this before?
[16-Jan-2009 08:43:49] **socheesome> I have a question for the community, we develop trading distributing environment and we are building monitor and governance functionalities
[16-Jan-2009 08:44:09] **klinstifen> so my zenpop3...events are getting created when i send test emails. But to ack an existing event will an event transform do the trick or will i need to approach it from a diff angle?
[16-Jan-2009 08:44:23] **socheesome> do you think zenoss can provide a valid monitor environment for our applications ?
[16-Jan-2009 08:53:18] **jmp242> socheesome: well it depends - it's open source, so with work you can probably make it monitor anything
[16-Jan-2009 09:28:06] **klinstifen> I think I have this zenpop3 thing figure out
[16-Jan-2009 09:28:52] **Cosmin> good job klinstifen
[16-Jan-2009 09:30:56] **klinstifen> It'll be great when it works...no more manual ack'ing
[16-Jan-2009 09:31:34] **RUMMY> Hi there
[16-Jan-2009 09:31:38] **RUMMY> is zenoss free?
[16-Jan-2009 09:32:31] **klinstifen> The community version is
[16-Jan-2009 09:36:12] **perr0> zenoss core is called
[16-Jan-2009 09:37:57] **klinstifen> yeah the core (community) version is free
[16-Jan-2009 09:38:59] **socheesome> jmp242 do you know any alterative or company is using zenoss for application platform monitoring ?
[16-Jan-2009 09:44:37] **perr0> alternative to zenoss?
[16-Jan-2009 09:48:35] **perr0> socheesome: is that your question?
[16-Jan-2009 09:48:43] **jmp242> I'm not sure what application platform monitoring is?
[16-Jan-2009 09:48:54] **jmp242> I'm using it to monitor servers etc...
[16-Jan-2009 09:49:09] **jmp242> I know users on the forums are using it to monitor temp sensors, UPSs etc
[16-Jan-2009 09:51:07] **teletype> we're using it to monitor the health of applications written inhouse
[16-Jan-2009 10:02:35] **daMaestro> anyone know what to do to force zenoss to re-create RRDs for a given device?
[16-Jan-2009 10:02:51] **daMaestro> aka.. in the case that an RRD is accidentally deleted
[16-Jan-2009 10:05:14] **jmp242> no - it generally will recreate them automatically I thought - maybe delete .pickle files?
[16-Jan-2009 10:06:09] **perr0> daMaestro: I've read that when an image fails they delete them and recreate them perhaps if you deleted it you can remodel the device to recreate that image
[16-Jan-2009 10:06:44] **perr0> I am not 100% sure I wish I knew but that makes most sense to me. Have you tried that
[16-Jan-2009 10:06:53] **daMaestro> perr0, we have tried re-modeling
[16-Jan-2009 10:07:28] **perr0> have you browsed the forums?
[16-Jan-2009 10:07:49] **daMaestro> though, zenmodeler and zenperf heartbeats are failing
[16-Jan-2009 10:07:56] **daMaestro> even though a manual re-model works
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:00] **daMaestro> yes, i have
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:13] **perr0> do you know why they're failing?
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:21] **daMaestro> where can i look to find out
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:26] **perr0> have you tried restarting them
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:29] **daMaestro> yes
[16-Jan-2009 10:09:02] **jmp242> check their log files
[16-Jan-2009 10:09:19] **perr0> $ZENOSS_HOME/zenoss/logs
[16-Jan-2009 10:09:41] **perr0> try zenevent.log
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:09] **klinstifen> daMaestro, after you delet the rrds zenoss will recreate them once enough data has been acquired
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:19] **daMaestro> it's not, though
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:34] **daMaestro> i've tested the full data point definitions
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:40] **daMaestro> this is for a custom template, btw
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:41] **klinstifen> are the graphs part of a custom template?
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:46] **daMaestro> yes
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:57] **klinstifen> have you run zentestcommand -v 10?
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:03] **daMaestro> i tried unbinding and re-binding the template
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:14] **klinstifen> or rather zencommand run -v10 on your device with that template?
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:30] **klinstifen> if you run that you might find if it is having trouble with the template itself
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:35] **klinstifen> command or snmp datapoint?
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:32] **daMaestro> snmp oid
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:47] **daMaestro> it works with other devices, and i have tested each data point against the deivce
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:49] **daMaestro> device*
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:55] **daMaestro> both through zenoss and via snmpwalk
[16-Jan-2009 10:14:11] **daMaestro> zencommand looks fine, hold on
[16-Jan-2009 10:14:50] **daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/1547
[16-Jan-2009 10:14:57] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #1547 (at fpaste.org)
[16-Jan-2009 10:17:07] **daMaestro> [zenoss@bplnms001 bin]$ zencheckrrd -h
[16-Jan-2009 10:17:07] **daMaestro> find: perf/lost+found: Permission denied
[16-Jan-2009 10:22:12] **daMaestro> k, the find is fine; but it still didn't cause the rrds to be created
[16-Jan-2009 10:28:42] **daMaestro> what's even more odd is that some of the data points do work for this device
[16-Jan-2009 10:34:20] **klinstifen> hmm
[16-Jan-2009 10:35:19] **klinstifen> does the rrd get recreated?
[16-Jan-2009 10:35:27] **klinstifen> when you run zencommand run -v10 on the device?
[16-Jan-2009 10:36:49] **daMaestro> no, it does not
[16-Jan-2009 10:37:04] **klinstifen> err try running zencommand run -v10 -d thedevice --data-source=thedatasource
[16-Jan-2009 10:38:20] **daMaestro> klinstifen, thank you very much for the help. we are going to just rewrite the snmp agent extend that we are polling. and start from scratch on the template
[16-Jan-2009 10:38:35] **daMaestro> klinstifen, with regards to the rrds not being recreated... that sucks but we are going to re-do the template
[16-Jan-2009 10:38:36] **klinstifen> ok
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:08] **daMaestro> klinstifen, the net-snmp extend for show status between mysql 4 and mysql 5 oid mappings are different
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:15] **klinstifen> meh, sometimes starting from scratch can be quicker than troubleshooting anyway
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:39] **klinstifen> gl
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:43] **daMaestro> thanks
[16-Jan-2009 10:44:31] **daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/1552 ... how do i find what devices are erroring?
[16-Jan-2009 10:44:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #1552 (at fpaste.org)
[16-Jan-2009 11:04:29] **BroncoBuster> Is there a work around for pinging internet sites to get the line to show up?
[16-Jan-2009 11:08:50] **klinstifen> daMaestro, zenperfsnmp run -v10
[16-Jan-2009 11:08:59] **klinstifen> might want to pipe that to a file and grep afterwords
[16-Jan-2009 11:09:15] **daMaestro> BroncoBuster, ?
[16-Jan-2009 11:09:16] **klinstifen> mine was for only 28 devices and it was pages of data
[16-Jan-2009 11:09:59] **daMaestro> nice.. and it uses stderr
[16-Jan-2009 11:11:05] **klinstifen> broncobuster, what line are you referring to?
[16-Jan-2009 11:11:29] **BroncoBuster> Well, I have 2 different zenoss setups and they both do the same thing. I'm assuming because there is not directly connected network between the two that it wont draw the line on the google map to that site
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:05] **klinstifen> are they connected at all like through a vpn?
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:25] **BroncoBuster> no they are not
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:40] **klinstifen> hmm, then you might need to create a "fake
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:43] **klinstifen> " subnet
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:59] **klinstifen> and then manually add a route to those devices so they are on the "fake" subnet
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:05] **klinstifen> there is a forum post about it
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:27] **BroncoBuster> I thought about that, I couldnt' get it to work though. I'll have to find that post then
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:32] **klinstifen> a recent one
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:34] **klinstifen> lemme look
[16-Jan-2009 11:16:48] **klinstifen> found it
[16-Jan-2009 11:16:54] **klinstifen> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6761
[16-Jan-2009 11:17:01] **klinstifen> look at the comment by fdeckert
[16-Jan-2009 11:17:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Cool tool: Check your layer3 deps (at forums.zenoss.com)
[16-Jan-2009 11:17:37] **klinstifen> what he did is a summary of an entire other post regarding what you want to do
[16-Jan-2009 11:18:09] **klinstifen> it's the last comment on page 1
[16-Jan-2009 11:29:55] **raw__> hey guys, I'm trying to load a set of Cisco MIBS in to Zenoss, I've finally gotten to the point where I'm down to the very last MIB (finally managed to get all other 1127 MIBS loaded)...
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:06] **raw__> I keep getting the following error when trying to load it...
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:12] **raw__> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: ./SNMPv2-TC-v1.my
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:12] **raw__> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Error: ./SNMPv2-TC-v1.my:11: identifier `TimeTicks' cannot be imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI-v1'
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:12] **raw__> ./SNMPv2-TC-v1.my:613: unknown type `TimeTicks'
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:13] **raw__> Segmentation fault
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:42] **raw__> I checked in the SNMPv2-SMI-v1 MIB file and there is absolutely no reference to TimeTicks, yet
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:58] **raw__> yet SNMPv2-TC-v1 is trying to export TimeTicks from that file
[16-Jan-2009 11:31:06] **raw__> any thoughts on how to work around this?
[16-Jan-2009 11:34:51] **BroncoBuster> thank you klinstifen. I haven't looked at it yet, but thanks
[16-Jan-2009 11:34:55] **BroncoBuster> brb
[16-Jan-2009 11:35:20] **klinstifen> raw_ is that a line reference (:11:) in that error? what's on line 11 of the file?
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:02] **raw__> here are the 3 lines leading up to and including line 11
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:11] **raw__> ...
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:17] **raw__> IMPORTS
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:19] **raw__> TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:23] **raw__> FROM SNMPv2-SMI-v1;
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:49] **raw__> and yes, that is a line reference
[16-Jan-2009 11:37:09] **raw__> but if I go in to the SNMPv2-SMI-v1 MIBS file, there is no referenced to TimeTicks at all
[16-Jan-2009 11:38:09] **raw__> so I'm pretty much stumped at this point
[16-Jan-2009 11:38:57] **klinstifen> Have you tried to download the mib from another source
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:13] **klinstifen> maybe this one is formatted wrong if it is referencing something that doesn't exist
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:17] **raw__> well, these are official Cisco MIBS, and I grabbed them right off the Cisco site, but no, I have not
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:24] **klinstifen> right...
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:40] **klinstifen> heh, well you could always take out the three lines. i bet it will import that way ; )
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:59] **raw__> no doubt, but then I won't have all of the MIBS I need
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:23] **raw__> this is for a Zenoss setup that is going to be doing corporate monitoring, so it needs to work properly
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:36] **klinstifen> well it sounds like the problem is with the mibs
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:42] **raw__> yeh
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:49] **klinstifen> not necessarily zenoss : /
[16-Jan-2009 11:41:15] **raw__> yeh, I know the problem isn't with Zenoss, just figured that maybe some people in here might have some advanced experience with MIBS or something
[16-Jan-2009 11:41:43] **klinstifen> the only similar problems i had were resolved when i found a different version of the mib
[16-Jan-2009 11:41:59] **klinstifen> i was grabbing sonicwall mibs and there are different versions on the oid/mib sites
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:04] **raw__> ah
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:12] **klinstifen> a combination of them got all the oids i needed
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:41] **raw__> well, these 2 MIBS are the same version and dated the same day
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:43] **klinstifen> what cisco device are you working with?
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:43] **raw__> which is weird
[16-Jan-2009 11:43:26] **raw__> We are going to be providing monitoring solutions for clients, so we need to be prepared to monitor basically any device
[16-Jan-2009 11:43:50] **raw__> hence why I need every possible MIB loaded
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:32] **klinstifen> i think i found your mib and this one doesn't have that Import line
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:40] **raw__> oh?
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:41] **raw__> link?
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:54] **klinstifen> snmpv2-smi-v1, right?
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:59] **raw__> correcto
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:26] **klinstifen> http://www.mibdepot.com/cgi-bin/vendor_index.cgi?r=cisco
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:37] **klinstifen> then look for the snmpv2-smi-v1
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:41] **adytum-bot> Title: mibDepot.com - Vendor MIBs (at www.mibdepot.com)
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:43] **klinstifen> click on the text viewing mode
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:51] **raw__> cool, thanks, I'll check it out
[16-Jan-2009 11:48:32] **raw__> I'm moving all these mibs to a subfolder first since it's getting a bit messy having them all laying in the root
[16-Jan-2009 11:51:27] **klinstifen> anyone work with zenpop3?
[16-Jan-2009 11:52:08] **klinstifen> for me zenpop3 generates an event but there is not eventClasskey
[16-Jan-2009 11:52:14] **klinstifen> so I can't map it
[16-Jan-2009 11:52:29] **klinstifen> and make a transform
[16-Jan-2009 11:53:34] **raw__> haven't worked with that yet unfortunately
[16-Jan-2009 12:44:18] **raw__> if I load mibs to a subfolder and then re-run zenmib on them it won't reload all of them again back in to the root right?
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:24] **raw__> ah, you actually found a version of the file that it's complaining about
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:29] **raw__> not of the file doing the complaining
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:34] **raw__> and it's the same version that I have
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:41] **raw__> the file that's doing the complaining is SNMPv2-TC-v1
[16-Jan-2009 13:07:01] **klinstifen> ah ok
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:13] **raw__> root@lab01:~/mibs/mixed# cat SNMPv2* | grep TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> TimeTicks, Counter32, snmpModules, mib-2
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> SYNTAX TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> -- Rsyntax TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> ObjectSyntax, TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> SYNTAX TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:16] **raw__> TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:18] **raw__> TimeStamp ::= TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:20] **raw__> TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:22] **raw__> TimeStamp ::= TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:26] **raw__> there's nothing in any of the mibs files that would define what TimeTicks is
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:46] **raw__> so the import is basically useless, but if the MIB doesn't get the value for TimeTicks then it's useless
[16-Jan-2009 13:15:25] **raw__> maybe I can just remove those import lines, since a lot of other files reference TimeTicks without doing an import of any kind
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:08] **raw__> hmmm, in another file:
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:10] **raw__> IMPORTS
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:10] **raw__> TimeTicks, IpAddress, Counter, Gauge, enterprises
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:11] **raw__> FROM RFC1155-SMI
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:22] **raw__> maybe I can just substitute that in
[16-Jan-2009 13:20:21] **teletype> timeticks are really annoying
[16-Jan-2009 13:20:34] **raw__> that did it
[16-Jan-2009 13:20:47] **raw__> hopefully it didn't screw anything up, but it's loaded
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:16] **klinstifen> I doubt it will screw anything up
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:25] **klinstifen> if anything if you end up using something that requires a timetick
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:42] **klinstifen> then maybe it won't read it or no how to translate it
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:52] **klinstifen> may turn out that you don't even need that value
[16-Jan-2009 13:22:12] **klinstifen> *know how to translate it
[16-Jan-2009 13:22:54] **klinstifen> anyone know if you can reference other python scripts when doing a transform?
[16-Jan-2009 13:24:13] **teletype> IIRC timeticks are 100ths of a second since the snmp agent was started
[16-Jan-2009 13:26:04] **raw__> I already got it to load
[16-Jan-2009 13:26:43] **raw__> edited the import line to pull the value from RFC1155-SMI instead
[16-Jan-2009 13:26:46] **raw__> and it worked
[16-Jan-2009 13:27:06] **raw__> oops, ignore that
[16-Jan-2009 13:27:19] **raw__> meant to type that in a different window, wasn't paying attention
[16-Jan-2009 13:33:20] **rhett_> i do that all the time
[16-Jan-2009 15:02:22] **raw__> well, now that all the MIBS are loaded I get to have fun on Monday trying to create templates
[16-Jan-2009 15:10:37] **Cosmin> thats always fun raw__
[16-Jan-2009 15:10:39] **Cosmin> ::)
[16-Jan-2009 15:46:19] **raw__> yup
[16-Jan-2009 15:47:58] **raw__> we have a test lab environment setup, so I need to at least get the test switches, routers, and servers monitored and then go from there
[16-Jan-2009 15:50:41] **raw__> by the way, as long as I have the MIBS loaded in to Zenoss it should automatically translate any snmp traps that are received right?
[16-Jan-2009 15:50:52] **raw__> I don't have to actually define what traps to look for for each device, or do I?
[16-Jan-2009 15:51:25] **raw__> (this is my first time setting up and using Zenoss, I read through the admin guide and kind of got thrown in to this, sink or swim)
[16-Jan-2009 16:01:13] **rhett> raw__: all you should (that i recall) have to define is the trap class
[16-Jan-2009 16:02:58] **raw__> what's an example of a trap class? like, I have all of the Cisco MIBs sitting under a subfolder called Cisco, then they each have a name like AIRESPACE-REF-MIB, then under that they have the nodes like airespace 1.3.6.1.4.1.14179 node
[16-Jan-2009 16:03:59] **raw__> and where would I define the trap class?
[16-Jan-2009 16:09:55] **rhett> they way i have always done is once the trap have been recieved you go to the event(trap) select it and map it to the appropriate class
[16-Jan-2009 16:10:22] **rhett> u can also to the /Events/ and go to the lcass you wish to add the trap too if you know what you want to add
[16-Jan-2009 16:10:43] **rhett> then go to the menu for 'EventClass Mappings' and select 'Add Mapping'
[16-Jan-2009 16:12:10] **rhett> once the appropriate mapping is made you can navigate to that (i.e. /Events/Security/wgAlarmTrap) and select the zProperties tab and assign the 'zEventAction' and 'zEventSeverity'
[16-Jan-2009 16:17:28] **ckrough> anyone know where 2.3.2 would log zenpack export failureS?
[16-Jan-2009 16:42:44] **raw__> rhett: thanks, that clears it up, I'll try that with some events on monday, but my question really was whether or not it would translate the trap with the name of the event rather than spitting out the OID string in the event console
[16-Jan-2009 16:43:25] **rhett> yes it will
[16-Jan-2009 16:43:44] **raw__> and it'll do that before the categorization is done correct?
[16-Jan-2009 16:44:44] **raw__> before you've assigned that event to an event class I mean
[16-Jan-2009 16:48:23] **rhett> yes
[16-Jan-2009 16:48:30] **raw__> k, thanks
[16-Jan-2009 16:50:49] **raw__> well, I'm off, thanks for the help guys
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[17-Jan-2009 12:12:21] **timholum> hello, i am having problems setting up my first zenoss server, i got it to install fine, but now i am having problems getting it to access wmi on my windows system's.
[17-Jan-2009 12:16:09] **timholum> my system's have wmi installed and if i am sshed in and su to zenoss. the wmic -U user%password //hostname "select * from Win32_ComputerSystem" retreaves information so it is no my windows systems. and if i go to Devices -> zPropertys i put in my zWinPassword and zWinUser the same as the user%password? any reson why its not working?
[17-Jan-2009 12:21:26] **timholum> hello anyone?
[17-Jan-2009 12:29:11] **timholum> Is anyone listening here?
[17-Jan-2009 13:12:17] **timholum> Hello, Is anyone hear?
[17-Jan-2009 13:32:07] **Traveler5> hello
[17-Jan-2009 13:37:29] **TexMex43743> adytum-bot baffle bzed CamargoBP charleS cy_` Gecho gem-in-eye huggie jamesturnbull jb jetole jiffe88 ke44qqq kevin7kal krphop loflika magnachef malbon_ mf2hd monrad nemo2 nemo_ nonsenso NoxIn- npmccallum operat0r phrost6 Quadro rhett Spec teletype timholum troy xkev Yotus zenoss-logger. Does anyone if there is a website where i can get more zenpack's
[17-Jan-2009 13:37:29] **adytum-bot> TexMex43743: Error: 'baffle' is not a valid command.
[17-Jan-2009 13:38:50] **timholum> TexMex43743: You could go to http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/
[17-Jan-2009 13:39:04] **adytum-bot> Title: ZenPack Project Site - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Jan-2009 13:39:54] **timholum> hello, i am having problems setting up my first zenoss server, i got it to install fine, but now i am having problems getting it to access wmi on my windows system's.
[17-Jan-2009 13:39:57] **timholum> my system's have wmi installed and if i am sshed in and su to zenoss. the wmic -U user%password //hostname "select * from Win32_ComputerSystem" retreaves information so it is no my windows systems. and if i go to Devices -> zPropertys i put in my zWinPassword and zWinUser the same as the user%password? any reson why its not working?
[17-Jan-2009 13:44:55] **npmccallum> timholum: you also have to have modeling plugins setup to use WMI and WMI based templates
[17-Jan-2009 13:46:07] **timholum> how do i do that?
[17-Jan-2009 13:46:14] **timholum> I am very new to zenoss.
[17-Jan-2009 13:48:41] **timholum> I do know that it is trying to access wmi, becoules i have an error "Could not read the Windows services (NT STATUS ACCESS DENIED). ...
[17-Jan-2009 13:49:21] **timholum> npmccallum: I do know that it is trying to access wmi, becoules i have an error "Could not read the Windows services (NT STATUS ACCESS DENIED). ...
[17-Jan-2009 13:50:01] **timholum> is there a good starter video or tutorial on getting started with zenoss?
[17-Jan-2009 13:55:34] **npmccallum> timholum: well, Zenoss offers a training class
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:06] **npmccallum> and if you're going to SCaLE in Feb. I'll be teaching a Zenoss community training class
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:27] **timholum> where is SCaLE located?
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:32] **npmccallum> LA
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:45] **npmccallum> around the corner from LAX airport
[17-Jan-2009 13:57:06] **npmccallum> http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/
[17-Jan-2009 13:57:14] **adytum-bot> Title: Southern California Linux Expo (at scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org)
[17-Jan-2009 13:58:07] **timholum> You should record your class and post it on the net
[17-Jan-2009 14:00:35] **npmccallum> timholum: good idea
[17-Jan-2009 14:06:02] **timholum> npmccallum: I would defenelty be interested in watching it,But if my job brings me to down there in February i will stop buy
[17-Jan-2009 14:06:09] **timholum> *by
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[18-Jan-2009 02:08:01] **jharr> o/
[18-Jan-2009 02:08:04] **jharr> anyone awake?
[18-Jan-2009 02:10:07] **jharr> So I pointed zenoss at a linux box with snmp enabled. Found it just fine, started monitoring it. Except for the network. I see an ethernet /Devices/Csmacdtemplate, is there anyway to apply that to the server in addition to the /Devices/Server/Linux/Device?
[18-Jan-2009 02:10:16] **jharr> or am I going about this in the wrong way?
[18-Jan-2009 02:15:05] **jharr> That, and this I/O graph seems a bit off http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5835/renderpu4.png
[18-Jan-2009 02:17:43] **jharr> all pretty much based off of a default install.
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:05] **mepholic> http://pastebin.ca/1311660
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:11] **mepholic> anybody have any idea?
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:13] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 1311660 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:22] **mepholic> this is a freebsd box
[18-Jan-2009 10:27:31] **mepholic> I got the svn
[18-Jan-2009 10:29:02] **jharr> mepholic: You need to install iconv development headers
[18-Jan-2009 10:29:17] **mepholic> thought as much
[18-Jan-2009 10:29:29] **mepholic> lemee look in ports
[18-Jan-2009 10:31:17] **mepholic> jharr, iconv or libiconv?
[18-Jan-2009 10:31:24] **jharr> libiconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:31:49] **jharr> if that doesn't work, try iconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:33:16] **mepholic> hmm
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:15] **mepholic> only config options i see for libiconv are EXTRA_ENCODINGS and EXTRA_PATCHES
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:21] **mepholic> and i dont see a libiconv-dev
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:41] **mepholic> no config options for iconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:46] **mepholic> and no iconv-dev
[18-Jan-2009 10:36:07] **mepholic> D:
[18-Jan-2009 10:36:13] **mepholic> really old ports
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:02] **jharr> mepholic: libiconv-dev is usualy the headers that come with iconv. Under the BSD's, they're probably included with libiconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:19] **jharr> When you use the ports tree
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:45] **mepholic> I'm not really a regular bsd user
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:50] **jharr> When you use packages, they split them up so people not doing development don't have a lot of headers sitting around they don't use.
[18-Jan-2009 10:38:19] **jharr> But when you install from source (including ports), they're almost always included.
[18-Jan-2009 10:38:57] **mepholic> well
[18-Jan-2009 10:39:04] **mepholic> ports was pretty out of date
[18-Jan-2009 10:39:10] **mepholic> upgrading it right now
[18-Jan-2009 20:57:55] **mepholic> installing: wmi
[18-Jan-2009 20:57:55] **mepholic> gmake: *** [wmi-install] Error 2
[18-Jan-2009 20:57:55] **mepholic> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[18-Jan-2009 20:58:09] **mepholic> about to kill somebody
[18-Jan-2009 21:00:33] **mepholic> http://pastebin.ca/1312200
[18-Jan-2009 21:00:39] **mepholic> anybody have any idea?
[18-Jan-2009 21:00:41] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1312200 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jan-2009 21:18:39] **timholum> hello everyone
[18-Jan-2009 21:21:14] **timholum> anyone in here?
[18-Jan-2009 21:28:59] **mepholic> yeah
[18-Jan-2009 21:29:21] **mepholic> but
[18-Jan-2009 21:29:21] **mepholic> brb
[18-Jan-2009 21:34:49] **mepholic> back
[18-Jan-2009 21:37:45] **timholum> ok
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[19-Jan-2009 08:29:20] **ke4qqq> npmccallum: zapplet is in Fedora's updates-testing repository atm, and provided I can get a few people to grant some karma should hit updates this week.
[19-Jan-2009 08:29:37] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: great!
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:09] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: I'll hopefully have some time this week in my hotel to work on zapplet more
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:18] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: you'll like the rewrite
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:36] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: basically everything is a plugin, so new features can be added trivially
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:36] **nemo_> upgraded to 2.3.2
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:42] **nemo_> still broken as hell !
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:49] **ke4qqq> good - 0.1 seems to add some significant load to zennoss
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:00] **npmccallum> nemo_: what problem are you having?
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:12] **nemo_> zenhub.log empty
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:18] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: I'm not really sure how to get around the load issue
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:21] **nemo_> events are coming through, but log is broken
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:27] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: unles we limit the number of events returned
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:39] **nemo_> and its slowww
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:56] **npmccallum> nemo_: first of all, what hardware is it running on?
[19-Jan-2009 08:32:20] **ke4qqq> npmccallum: it'd be nice if that was an option, it brings my poor system to it's knees (admittedly there are 60,000 events)
[19-Jan-2009 08:32:21] **nemo_> npmccallum, plenty of free processors and memory
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:03] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: hehe 60k would do it
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:35] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: but seriously, for the health of your system, you might want to get rid of some events
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:50] **nemo_> npmccallum, you mean 60000 live events ?
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:53] **nemo_> not historical
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:02] **npmccallum> yes
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:05] **npmccallum> live events
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:08] **ke4qqq> yeah - the problem is really that I am using it as a syslog server as well - I need to age some of them I suppose
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:10] **nemo_> 60k history shouldnt be an issue, i got millions
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:16] **ke4qqq> more aggressively
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:53] **npmccallum> nemo_: well, thats probably your slowness right there
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:16] **nemo_> npmccallum, in the history ?
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:20] **nemo_> should touch that
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:30] **nemo_> unless you view it , afail
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:32] **nemo_> afaik
[19-Jan-2009 08:36:27] **npmccallum> what is your load on your machine? have you run iotop?
[19-Jan-2009 08:36:59] **nemo_> iotop ?
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:02] **npmccallum> nemo_: the reason 60k events will slow down his machine is because he is using zapplet, which fetches *all* events every few minutes
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:12] **nemo_> ah well
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:16] **npmccallum> http://guichaz.free.fr/iotop/
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:20] **nemo_> i am not doing anything like that
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Iotop's homepage (at guichaz.free.fr)
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:37] **shadkianash> hi everyone
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:04] **nemo_> npmccallum, my zenoss has never worked well, i think its something to do with being upgraded since 2.1.3
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:27] **npmccallum> nemo_: that could be
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:30] **nemo_> still lots of weird messages in the logs
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:36] **npmccallum> the 2.1 era was pretty messy
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:38] **nemo_> i think most ppl just dont look at the logs
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:51] **nemo_> conflicts , other BS
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:55] **npmccallum> I just spent a week upgrading a 2.1.1 box to 2.3.2
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:09] **nemo_> i did 2.2.3 to 2.3.2 last night
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:13] **nemo_> it works, but not well.
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:32] **npmccallum> 2.2.3 to 2.3.2 should be smooth
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:35] **nemo_> i had to f&ck around with the external collector, via ssh , editing files
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:43] **npmccallum> its probably junk from 2.1.3 which made it tough
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:45] **nemo_> yeh i read so too, lies
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:07] **nemo_> too many tweaks to give up now
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:09] **npmccallum> I've done probably 20 2.2.x to 2.3.2 upgrades and not had a single problem
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:18] **nemo_> will have to get zenoss support on the case
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:37] **npmccallum> nemo_: that sounds like a good idea
[19-Jan-2009 08:44:26] **shadkianash> hey, i´ve 1 little question... i'm using zenoss to process some snmptraps generated by an app... I´ve configured the event mappings and the transformation rules to showme some information sended in the trap on the summary colunm of the event console... But, some data is cropped because the length of the column... reading the manual of zenoss i saw that zenoss uses python sintax to tranform the content. I´ve no idea about python sintax, but goog
[19-Jan-2009 08:44:33] **shadkianash> (thxs in advance)
[19-Jan-2009 08:47:23] **shadkianash> no one?
[19-Jan-2009 08:48:14] **nemo_> google python syntax
[19-Jan-2009 08:48:20] **adytum-bot> http://codesyntax.netfirms.com/lang-python.htm
[19-Jan-2009 08:48:20] **nemo_> rtfm, sorry !
[19-Jan-2009 08:49:13] **shadkianash> thxs, I´ll google it again...
[19-Jan-2009 08:54:20] **shadkianash> as I said before... I used the "\n" escape char to try to create a CRLF on the summary column, but it doesn't work... this is the code used in the Transform \\\ evt.summary = evt.summary + "\n bla bla" \\\
[19-Jan-2009 08:58:23] **shadkianash> any ideas?
[19-Jan-2009 09:46:11] **teletype> anyone know why zenwin might be getting broken pipes communicating with the watchdog? this is happening every 30 sec or so
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:27] **klinstifen> Morning all
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:33] **teletype> morning
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:35] **timholum> good morning
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:41] **klinstifen> quick question...when working with Event Commands
[19-Jan-2009 09:48:20] **klinstifen> what language is the command written in? I am trying to use some python methods, but my errors look like it is referencing the bash shell syntax
[19-Jan-2009 09:48:41] **teletype> they're shell commands
[19-Jan-2009 09:49:07] **klinstifen> ok
[19-Jan-2009 10:10:08] **baffle_> Hi, I have a few issues I'm not able to find a fix for, anyone here understand what it could be?
[19-Jan-2009 10:11:38] **baffle_> 1. zenmodeller is looping, using 100% CPU and outputting tons of these every second: "Collecting for path /Devices". I've seen a ticket about this, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/4096 but no fix.
[19-Jan-2009 10:13:08] **baffle_> 2. I have some some equpiment where ZenOSS has not created RRD files, I.e. a Cisco device where os/interfaces/GigabitEthernet0_1 to 0_9 is created but not 0_10 to 0_51. 0_52 exists however.. Doing a remodel doesn't help much..
[19-Jan-2009 10:13:58] **baffle_> For these devices I also saw this when upgrading (but the error was there before upgrading): WARNING:zen.DeviceClass:bad path '/zport/dmd/Devices/Network/Switch/Cisco 3560/devices/s5107a.dc.kq.no/os/interfaces/Null0' in index 'componentSearch'
[19-Jan-2009 10:14:23] **baffle_> etc etc. :-)
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[19-Jan-2009 10:17:57] **klinstifen> ok
[19-Jan-2009 10:29:35] **raw__> hey guys, any idea what would cause zenwin, zentrap, zensyslog, zenstatus, zenprocess, zenping, zenperfsnmp, zenmodeler, zenevenlog, and zencommand to all report heartbeat failures in the event log? Functionality doesn't seem to be affected by this, but I still need to fix it somehow.
[19-Jan-2009 10:31:33] **raw__> it just started recently
[19-Jan-2009 10:37:09] **klinstifen> raw, what's the name of the daemon?
[19-Jan-2009 10:39:10] **klinstifen> teletype, i am trying to extract a substring from ${evt/summary}
[19-Jan-2009 10:39:13] **klinstifen> in the event commands
[19-Jan-2009 10:39:52] **klinstifen> shouldn't i be able to use simple bash substr commands/methods?
[19-Jan-2009 10:49:30] **raw__> ah, figured out what it was
[19-Jan-2009 10:49:49] **raw__> we had ziptie bound to 127.0.0.1 and trapping to that address, Zenoss doesn't seem to like that
[19-Jan-2009 11:09:54] **nemo_> wonde3r why
[19-Jan-2009 11:09:56] **nemo_> ':_)
[19-Jan-2009 11:12:30] **shadkianash> hey, i´ve 1 little question... i'm using zenoss to process some snmptraps generated by an app... I´ve configured the event mappings and the transformation rules to showme some information sended in the trap on the summary colunm of the event console... But, some data is cropped because the length of the column... reading the manual of zenoss i saw that zenoss uses python sintax to tranform the content. I´ve no idea about python sintax, but goog
[19-Jan-2009 11:50:32] **teletype> anyone here ever written Net::SNMP agent extensions in Perl?
[19-Jan-2009 11:58:33] **raw__> how do you force the collector to update what it's collecting?
[19-Jan-2009 11:58:41] **raw__> it only seems to update once an hour
[19-Jan-2009 11:59:00] **raw__> I remember there's some way to do it in the admin guide, but I've been skimming through and can't find it
[19-Jan-2009 12:01:53] **nemo2> raw__, used to be a reconfigure collector function
[19-Jan-2009 12:02:08] **nemo2> god knows where that disappeared to ( i just upgraded )
[19-Jan-2009 12:02:25] **raw__> hmmmm
[19-Jan-2009 12:03:37] **raw__> that sucks, right now I'm setting up a new monitoring system, and it's ridiculous having to wait an hour to test something
[19-Jan-2009 12:09:27] **raw__> I know you can push changes to the collectors on a per device basis
[19-Jan-2009 12:09:35] **raw__> but I need to know how to do it for all of them
[19-Jan-2009 12:12:08] **nemo2> config time might be more than an hour
[19-Jan-2009 12:12:27] **nemo2> depends what your testing, you have had a look at collectors -> settings
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:11] **raw__> yeh
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:18] **raw__> which value would I modify?
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:22] **raw__> to speed things up
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:28] **nemo2> i dont know for sure
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:41] **nemo2> but cycle config time ( i am not in front of my zenoss now )
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:56] **raw__> k
[19-Jan-2009 12:31:06] **klinstifen> has anyone used zenackevents in conjunction with Event Commands?
[19-Jan-2009 12:31:31] **klinstifen> i am trying to get a substring (the event id) out of my event summary...so i can pass it to zenackevents
[19-Jan-2009 12:31:39] **klinstifen> but it just won't cooperate
[19-Jan-2009 12:33:09] **klinstifen> anyone see an issue with this statement: zenackevents --evid=`expr substr ${evt/summary} 10 34`
[19-Jan-2009 12:33:19] **klinstifen> that's in the command section of the event command i made
[19-Jan-2009 12:39:00] **ke4qqq> any fedora contributors around?? if so, please login, install and give karma to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zapplet-0.1-4.fc10 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zapplet-0.1-4.fc9 so they can be pushed to the updates repository.
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[19-Jan-2009 13:17:13] **raw__> when I add a device and have zenoss model it it seems to pull the device hostname down from it's host file. When I rename the device I keep getting errors in the event console complaining that a device with the old device name (before I changed it) and the new device name are both using the same IP address
[19-Jan-2009 13:17:24] **raw__> is there any way around this?
[19-Jan-2009 13:17:56] **nemo2> afaik, it pulls it from dns
[19-Jan-2009 13:18:15] **raw__> not possible
[19-Jan-2009 13:18:17] **raw__> don't have it in dns
[19-Jan-2009 13:18:22] **nemo2> oh well
[19-Jan-2009 13:31:34] **raw__> figured it out, it was the hosts file
[19-Jan-2009 13:35:45] **rhett> so you were changing the device name in zenoss but not changing the hosts file?
[19-Jan-2009 14:26:26] **teletype> sweet. just got done writing a Net-SNMP agent extension to populate the hrSWInstalled MIB on debian/ubuntu systems
[19-Jan-2009 14:26:36] **teletype> that had been annoying me
[19-Jan-2009 14:43:57] **klinstifen> can anyone explain to me the difference between an acknowledged event and a supressed event?
[19-Jan-2009 14:46:12] **raw__> rhett: The device that we were adding is the server itself, since we are running a service on it that sends snmp traps to zenoss. The process sending the traps is bound to 30.30.20.10, we had the hostname of the server specified for 30.30.20.10 in the hosts file, so when we changed the name in zenoss, zenoss still saw the device as being the hostname and the the new and interpreted it as 2 conflicting devices
[19-Jan-2009 14:46:34] **raw__> so we changed the line in the hosts file to be 127.0.0.1 instead and it resolved the issue since Zenoss sees 2 seperate ips now
[19-Jan-2009 14:47:20] **raw__> the the new == the new name*
[19-Jan-2009 14:53:03] **klinstifen> sweet got it working...can now acknowledge events via email
[19-Jan-2009 14:53:23] **klinstifen> don't have to login to the console anymore
[19-Jan-2009 16:47:09] **gem-in-eye> I just installed a new core server and gave it snmp and wmi info to collect data but for my windows servers I'm not getting any of the default perf graphs. It says I'm missing the RRD file and under he debug events it says my oid's are bad. Any thoughts?
[19-Jan-2009 16:55:25] **nemo2> how long has it been ?
[19-Jan-2009 16:55:38] **nemo2> allow 1 hr or more depending how many devices you have
[19-Jan-2009 16:57:13] **thehawk> hello all..
[19-Jan-2009 16:57:37] thehawk is now known as hawk98
[19-Jan-2009 16:57:44] **hawk98> hello all..
[19-Jan-2009 16:58:06] **hawk98> I have a quick question ...hopefully you can help me out..
[19-Jan-2009 16:59:47] **hawk98> we need to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.3 however we are concerned that the data for the old graphs will disappear....can you please advise if an upgrade should keep the graphs or if the graphs are blown away and there is nothing we can do about that?
[19-Jan-2009 17:00:20] **hawk98> so the short question is....how can I upgrade the version and keep the old graphs at the same time?
[19-Jan-2009 17:03:48] **kgoedtel> the graph data is all stored in rrd files, i personally haven't upgraded to 2.3 but i wouldn't imagine you would lose anything
[19-Jan-2009 17:12:14] **hawk98> i'm a newb and I haven't done this before...whould it be as simple as copying the rrd files to the new config? the other question being: If I blow away the box and save the RRD files can i just simply restore them into the new config or do I have to import them using some sort of tool?
[19-Jan-2009 17:12:51] **kgoedtel> you are just upgrading in-place correct?
[19-Jan-2009 17:14:43] **hawk98> well...we've had zennoss since version 1.X...and we were thinking of doing a fresh install and then bringing the old data back in...if at all possible..
[19-Jan-2009 17:14:58] **hawk98> we're concerned about the bandwidth graphs that have been generated for the past year for example...
[19-Jan-2009 17:15:49] **hawk98> to correct myself....we've had zenoss since 1.X...we then upgraded to 2.1 and we want to upgrade now to 2.3 but every time we've tried the graphs are not kept....even for in-place upgrade..
[19-Jan-2009 17:16:07] **hawk98> let's assume that we do an in-place upgrade...will that make it simpler?
[19-Jan-2009 17:16:46] **hawk98> is there a document I can read that outlines the upgrade process and/or backup/restore of the graphs?
[19-Jan-2009 17:18:23] **hawk98> or....if we wanted to change the hardware zenoss was on and upgraded to a faster CPU...what's the procedure for taking the graphs/data and move it to the new box so that we can see the old info once the package is installed on the new PC
[19-Jan-2009 18:14:07] **gem-in-eye> nemo2: It's been several days since I added the servers.
[19-Jan-2009 18:44:27] **daMaestro> anyone know how to force recreation of missing rrds?
[19-Jan-2009 18:48:11] **timholum> does anyone have any experiance remotly installing snmp on windows? I tryed the tutorial that zenoss has but it does not work for me
[19-Jan-2009 18:50:07] **timholum> I copyed the i386 to the c:, and added the two registry and pointed them to c:\i386, created the text file for snmp.txt and exicuted sysocmgr /i:%windir%\inf\sysoc.inf /u:\snmp.txt /q
[19-Jan-2009 21:23:34] **gem-in-eye> I have two instances of core running. Both are monitoring the same DNS server. One says the IP Service DNS on port 53 is up, the other says it's down. Both are collecting data through SNMP. Any ideas why they aren't consistant? I'm able to query DNS from both servers running core.
[19-Jan-2009 22:38:18] **phrost> which one in collector performance deals with IpService monitoring intervals?
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[20-Jan-2009 01:42:35] **phrost> having trouble trying to add the powernet mib, zenoss seems to understand it as 1.3.6.1.4.1.318.0.276 for traps where the device is sending '1.3.6.1.4.1.318.276'
[20-Jan-2009 01:42:39] **phrost> all the traps have an extra 0
[20-Jan-2009 03:28:44] **nemo_> anyone had luck using renameDevice?
[20-Jan-2009 03:28:55] **nemo_> i want to decapitalise the names
[20-Jan-2009 04:14:05] **nemo_> zenoss still answer emails?
[20-Jan-2009 04:14:18] **nemo_> the all singing support system doesnt do well with password resets
[20-Jan-2009 04:44:56] **phrost> nemo_: always get an internal error when i try, usually just delete/readd
[20-Jan-2009 04:45:28] **nemo_> yup
[20-Jan-2009 04:45:37] **nemo_> i am getting real tired of it all ...
[20-Jan-2009 04:46:35] **phrost> iirc it spit out some error about file or directory not found , never took the time to try and debug it
[20-Jan-2009 04:46:52] **phrost> but it did promise me it emailed zenoss corp to let them know, lol
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:01] **nemo_> lol
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:26] **nemo_> i am gonna give zenoss one more go *( even tho we paid for ent )
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:32] **nemo_> and then move to something else
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:43] **nemo_> its way too much trouble imho
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:51] **phrost> heh all monitoring systems seem to have quirks
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:04] **nemo_> yeh but zenoss just doesnt work
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:07] **phrost> groundwork randomly craps out on the UI and has the same random fails
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:13] **nemo_> i am getting all sorts of false and bad info
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:14] **phrost> its kinda like windows 95 all over again
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:18] **nemo_> UI is so sucky
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:35] **nemo_> ppl who say it works well just dont know where to find logs
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:38] **nemo_> obviously
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:52] **phrost> it works for me most of the time
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:03] **nemo_> i wanna go for a pure commericial product
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:07] **phrost> i keep getting random snmp agent fail messages, think that might be from network lag
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:13] **nemo_> i hate this open source / community supported / yet paid model
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:30] **phrost> yea you paid for ent and they still won't fix it?
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:46] **nemo_> i dont think it ever worked, i hung on till 2.3.2
[20-Jan-2009 04:51:50] **nemo_> /dev/sda7 487M 317M 145M 69% /var
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:08] **nemo_> zenoss says: /var 3.9GB 341.4MB 3.5GB 8
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:20] **phrost> i did have to go hack the zentrap.py to 'fix' the broken handling of snmp v1 vendor traps for our APC rPDUs
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:26] **phrost> that was annoying
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:46] **nemo_> i have made about 30 scripts to fill in gaps
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:51] **nemo_> but now its getting silly
[20-Jan-2009 04:53:03] **phrost> lol save me the time, what else is broke before i find it
[20-Jan-2009 04:53:19] **phrost> zencommand could use some work, i have an ugly hacked together thing to monitor dell OMSA agents over SNMP
[20-Jan-2009 04:53:20] **nemo_> all of it . abandon ship
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:23] **raw> hey guys, I'm trying to code up my first transform ever, and I almost have it figured out except for one thing...
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:36] **raw> descr = getattr(evt, 'ifDescr', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:38] **raw> evt.summary = 'Link down on %s' % (descr)
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:49] **raw> why is descr not being pulled in to the event summary?
[20-Jan-2009 08:39:03] **raw> when the event shows up in Zenoss all I see is Link down on
[20-Jan-2009 08:39:12] **raw> with no ifDescr value
[20-Jan-2009 08:39:52] sstringham is now known as wassy121
[20-Jan-2009 08:42:11] **therealnemo> cant transform an unknown
[20-Jan-2009 08:42:23] **therealnemo> where are you trying to apply that
[20-Jan-2009 08:42:36] **therealnemo> if its where you map an event, thats the wrong place
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:12] **raw> I'm applying it in the Events section
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:31] **raw> Events/Status/LinkDown/snmpTraps.3
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:47] **raw> I navigate to that, then I click the edit tab
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:52] **raw> and there's a transform field
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:15] **raw> here's the full transform...
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> index = getattr(evt, 'ifIndex', 0)
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> descr = getattr(evt, 'ifDescr', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> evt.component = descr
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> if device:
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> description = ''
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:18] **raw> for iface in device.os.interfaces():
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:20] **raw> if index and iface.ifindex == index:
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:22] **raw> descr = iface.description
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:24] **raw> elif descr and iface.name == descr:
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:25] **therealnemo> ok
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:26] **raw> descr = iface.description
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:28] **raw> evt.summary = 'Link down on %s' % (descr)
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:36] **therealnemo> delete your transform there ( cut or whatever )
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:41] **raw> k
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:43] **therealnemo> and use the triangle pull down menu
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:00] **therealnemo> more -> transform
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:03] **therealnemo> and paste it in there
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:17] **raw> in which section?
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:43] **therealnemo> where you were ( events/ status / linkdown
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:50] **therealnemo> (i dont have that in my zenoss )
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:01] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:15] **raw> well, that just means that I'm applying it to that whole event class
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:19] **raw> instead of to the event itself
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:25] **raw> which is not really what I want to do
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:38] **raw> I don't see how applying it to the whole event class makes a difference
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:53] **therealnemo> the other doesnt work i was told by a zenoss engineer
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:56] **raw> plus, the event component is successfully displaying the interface name
[20-Jan-2009 08:47:02] **raw> it's just not showing up in the event summary
[20-Jan-2009 08:47:15] **raw> ok, I'll try it this way I guess
[20-Jan-2009 08:47:20] **therealnemo> i dont do any transforms there, i do them from the class -> more -> transform
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:02] **therealnemo> heres one of mine
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:03] **therealnemo> http://zenoss.pastebin.com/m14838c93
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:10] **adytum-bot> Title: zenoss private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at zenoss.pastebin.com)
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:55] **raw> well, I'll try it this way
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:56] **raw> afk
[20-Jan-2009 08:50:58] **raw> it didn't even transform that time
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:30] **raw> oh, do you have to put a checkmark in the checkbox when you do that?
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:41] **raw> actually no, you shouldn't have to
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:43] **raw> hmmm
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:45] **therealnemo> no in my version
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:57] **therealnemo> your spacing etc is right ? ( indenting )
[20-Jan-2009 08:55:32] **raw> yup
[20-Jan-2009 08:55:46] **raw> should be
[20-Jan-2009 08:56:04] **therealnemo> id be interested to know how you get on there
[20-Jan-2009 08:56:19] **therealnemo> i use transforms allot, if you have success with your method, let me know
[20-Jan-2009 08:56:27] **therealnemo> that was my first approach
[20-Jan-2009 09:02:55] **raw> ok
[20-Jan-2009 09:03:12] **raw> I plan to use transforms a lot too, once I figure them out lol
[20-Jan-2009 09:04:18] **raw> I think this transform is overblown for what I want
[20-Jan-2009 09:04:58] **raw> all I want to do is have something saying Link Down on int Gig0/1 (or whatever the int name is) as the event summary
[20-Jan-2009 09:05:15] **raw> I'm going to try something
[20-Jan-2009 09:06:51] **raw> there
[20-Jan-2009 09:06:57] **raw> just had to simplify the script
[20-Jan-2009 09:07:06] **raw> and it does work in that transform field
[20-Jan-2009 09:10:09] **timholum> hello, I have a FreeBSD Server running openvpn, for some reason zenoss does not recognize the network in network map? any idea's?
[20-Jan-2009 09:17:43] **timholum> It looks like openvpn actuly makes each device a /32. Is there anyway to tell zenoss that my network is actuly attached to my freebsd server?
[20-Jan-2009 09:37:38] **raw> ok, here's a good question...
[20-Jan-2009 09:37:46] **raw> how do I pull 2 variables in to the summary?
[20-Jan-2009 09:38:00] **raw> evt.summary = 'Link down on %s' % (descr)
[20-Jan-2009 09:38:37] **raw> let's say I wanted to put something like 'Spanning tree for %var1 reconfigured for int %var2'?
[20-Jan-2009 09:39:09] **raw> %s is pulling in the variable specified after the string, any way to specify a second?
[20-Jan-2009 09:43:32] **raw> ah, you can just do 'message', variable ' etc...'
[20-Jan-2009 09:51:21] **timholum> Is there any way to manuly tell zenoss that a network is attached to a device?
[20-Jan-2009 09:58:23] **wassy121> Man, I am having terrible troubles finding why I get "zenping heartbeat failure", followed by heartbeat clear every 4 minutes (my ping cycle interval). The logs say things are dandy.
[20-Jan-2009 10:00:59] janwari is now known as janwari_away
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:54] **raw> can someone tell me what's wrong with this evt.summary line?
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:54] **raw> int = getattr(evt, 'ifName', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:55] **raw> vlan = getattr(evt, 'vtpVlanIndex', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:55] **raw> evt.component = vlan
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:56] **raw> evt.summary = 'Blah blah', int 'Blah blah', vlan
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:10] **raw> obviously I'm new to this
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:27] **raw> I just want to be able to insert 2 different variable in to different points in the event summary
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:38] **raw> I'm googled around and can't find anything
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:42] **raw> I've*
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:17] **wassy121> raw: you may be looking for something like 'link down on %s because of %s' % (descr, vlan)
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:26] **wassy121> ?
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:32] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:37] **raw> ok, yeh, that's exactly what I want
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:39] **wassy121> I don't know either, so may be blind-leading-blind here.
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:41] **raw> I didn't know the syntax
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:46] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:00] **raw> but yeh, something like that
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:08] **wassy121> I know it is 'string with %d %s %i, etc' % (list, of, variables)
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:16] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:27] **raw> yeh, I need to know the exact syntax for it
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:31] **wassy121> It may be (list), (of), (3 * variables)
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:36] **raw> and also, what if I want to glue a variable to a piece of text?
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:55] **raw> like, there's a vlan value, I want it to display as Vlan%s so basically Vlan1, or whatever
[20-Jan-2009 10:30:46] **wassy121> Yeah, just like that.
[20-Jan-2009 10:31:24] **wassy121> print "%32s %16s %17s" % (d.getDeviceName(), d.manageIp, d.os.interfaces()[0].macaddress )
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:02] **wassy121> it even takes printf-style %0.2d type variables too.
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:19] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:43] **raw> ummm
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:48] **raw> what are the numbers for?
[20-Jan-2009 10:35:58] **raw> it's been a while since I've done C
[20-Jan-2009 10:35:59] **raw>
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:11] **wassy121> It is python print syntax.
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:16] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:24] **wassy121> Need to read the docs to know.
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:28] **wassy121> No time, work to do ;-)
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:34] **raw> lol
[20-Jan-2009 11:00:39] **raw> evt.summary = 'Spanning tree reset on Vlan%s for int %s' % (vlan,int) ---> worked
[20-Jan-2009 12:02:45] **wassy121> cool, glad you got it working. Had to take a timeout to watch inaugural address. Good times.
[20-Jan-2009 12:02:56] **wassy121> I got my zenping heartbeat errors gone too ;-)
[20-Jan-2009 12:03:27] **nemo2> my power was out, sweet mercy
[20-Jan-2009 12:13:45] **gem-in-eye> I disabled an IP on a DNS server that was giving me a critical event because it wasn't routable but for the life of me I can't get it to go away from the IP Service. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
[20-Jan-2009 12:30:39] **raw> wassy121: what was causing the errors? (out of curiosity)
[20-Jan-2009 12:31:25] **wassy121> raw: I had my ping cycle timer set to the same as my heartbeat check timer, so the heartbeat check was just missing that zenping had run due to order of operation.
[20-Jan-2009 12:31:36] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 12:31:52] **raw> I figured it'd be some sort of timing issue from the way you were describing it
[20-Jan-2009 12:32:23] **raw> I finally have Zenoss spitting out notifications in plan english
[20-Jan-2009 12:32:29] **raw> plain english, rather
[20-Jan-2009 13:10:46] **Pimpachu> anyone here used Zenoss to monitor OpenBSD?
[20-Jan-2009 13:16:03] **shadkianash> hi every1, I´ve one little question... I´m using Zenoss to process SNMP Traps from one app. I use Transformations to put information in the trap on the several columns of the Event Console. reading the manual, I saw that it´s possible to use python syntax in the evt.summary collection... so, I google for python escape char to render a Line Feed - Carriage Return in the variable, but zenoss seems to scan the variable content and strip off the "\
[20-Jan-2009 13:24:11] **nemo2> show me your transform on pastebin
[20-Jan-2009 13:27:36] **raw> anyone know what's wrong with this line?
[20-Jan-2009 13:27:38] **raw> evt.summary = '%s-%s: %s - Severity: %s' % (facility,msgname.msgtext,histsev)
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:06] **raw> oh wait
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:09] **raw> I'm an idiot
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:16] **raw> put a period instead of a coma
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:33] **raw> time to test again...
[20-Jan-2009 13:30:12] **nemo2> shadkianash, are you using the same method as raw? ( %s and a variable )
[20-Jan-2009 13:30:21] **raw> works
[20-Jan-2009 14:02:01] **shadkianash> no, I´m using this... evt.summary=evt.summary + "\n text text text"
[20-Jan-2009 14:02:06] **timholum> does anyone know how to get zenoss to make an openvpn network show up?
[20-Jan-2009 14:03:05] **timholum> it does not show up becoulse openvpn uses a /32 for each connected client. and i am wondering how to make zenoss know that the whole network is behind it?
[20-Jan-2009 14:05:49] **timholum> is anyone in hear?
[20-Jan-2009 14:05:51] **nemo2> shadkianash, suggest you use that other way then, let us know if that solves it
[20-Jan-2009 14:06:03] **nemo2> sounds like your new to python shadkianash ?
[20-Jan-2009 14:06:52] **shadkianash> yeap...so newbie... I only search that because I need to render the information on the summary in multiple lines
[20-Jan-2009 14:08:26] **Pimpachu> Anyone here attempted to monitor OpenBSD hosts?
[20-Jan-2009 14:17:36] **timholum> Pimpachu: I have freebsd, which is close but not the same
[20-Jan-2009 14:19:58] **timholum> I am actuly having a few problems with it. but it is mostly due to openvpn.
[20-Jan-2009 14:20:23] **timholum> but I just had to install net-snmp to get it to start monitoring
[20-Jan-2009 14:59:01] **Pimpachu> How do I get Zenoss to find stuff on my network
[20-Jan-2009 15:00:06] **gem-in-eye> You mean auto discover?
[20-Jan-2009 15:01:18] **Pimpachu> Yes
[20-Jan-2009 15:01:59] **gem-in-eye> go to /Networks, check off the subnetworks you want to scan, drill down into a subnet, or add one and check it. Then click the Subnetworks arrow and do Discover Devices.
[20-Jan-2009 15:08:00] **nemo2> WARNING zen.ApplyDataMap: attribute rdb not found on object sda1
[20-Jan-2009 15:08:06] **nemo2> anyone bumped into that?
[20-Jan-2009 16:08:01] **timholum> Does anyone have openvpn connecting there zenoss networks?
[20-Jan-2009 16:10:49] **atsaloli> Hi. I am getting "unknown" for disk filesystem free bytes in Zenoss Core 2.3.0. How do I get the byte count, please?
[20-Jan-2009 16:28:51] **atsaloli> WARNING zen.ApplyDataMap: attribute rdc not found on object sda1
[20-Jan-2009 16:52:51] **nemo2> atsaloli, i got that last one, and a few variations
[20-Jan-2009 16:53:06] **nemo2> i think its new for 2.3.2 , because i dont find anything in google about it
[20-Jan-2009 17:37:30] **atsaloli> thanks for your reply
[20-Jan-2009 17:37:41] **atsaloli> I am getting the byte count now
[20-Jan-2009 17:37:50] **atsaloli> I moved my devices from top level to /Devices/Server/Linux
[20-Jan-2009 18:12:52] **atsaloli> bye
[20-Jan-2009 18:40:59] **gem-in-eye> Anyone around?
[20-Jan-2009 18:54:47] **timholum> i am, but i am very new to zenoss
[20-Jan-2009 18:55:09] **timholum> i have been using it for less then a week
[20-Jan-2009 19:09:06] **rhett> im an amateur but will only be here for a few more minutes
[20-Jan-2009 19:09:55] **gem-in-eye> Do you know if you need the Professional or Enterprise levels to restrict the views of users? I only want people to see the systems they manage.
[20-Jan-2009 19:10:36] **rhett> :\ i dont know the answer to that since everyone here looks at the same thing. sorry.
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[21-Jan-2009 05:51:06] **janwari> conary migrate --interactive --resolve \ group-zenoss-enterprise=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//enterprise-2.3 gives me group-zenoss-enterprise was not found on branch /zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//enterprise-2.3
[21-Jan-2009 06:10:00] **janwari> is conary migrate from 2.3.0 to 2.3.2 not working anymore ?
[21-Jan-2009 06:14:54] **janwari> looks like a expired SSL certificate issue
[21-Jan-2009 06:18:51] **shadkianash> hi every1, I´ve one little question... I´m using Zenoss to process SNMP Traps from one app. I use Transformations to put information in the trap on the several columns of the Event Console. reading the manual, I saw that it´s possible to use python syntax in the evt.summary collection... so, I google for python escape char to render a Line Feed - Carriage Return in the variable, but zenoss seems to scan the variable content and strip off the "\
[21-Jan-2009 06:19:22] **nemo_> what about the chat we had yesterday shadkianash
[21-Jan-2009 06:20:39] **shadkianash> nemo_ thxs so much for your reply yesterday, but I still getting nothing
[21-Jan-2009 06:21:28] **shadkianash> I´m so so newbie about python... so clueless
[21-Jan-2009 06:21:41] **nemo_> perhaps you need #python then
[21-Jan-2009 06:21:54] **nemo_> no offence, but sitting here keep pasting the same question is worse
[21-Jan-2009 06:23:19] **shadkianash> I know that, but pasting here (we peopple that uses zenoss more than I) maybe could be the solution (or part of it)
[21-Jan-2009 06:23:49] **shadkianash> (by the way, I have done several tests for this thing)
[21-Jan-2009 06:24:30] **shadkianash> but maybe, someone in the zenoss development team could confirm me that
[21-Jan-2009 06:24:34] **janwari> how can one run cornary migrate when SSL certificate of https://update.zenoss.com/conary/ has expired ?
[21-Jan-2009 06:24:41] **adytum-bot> Title: Conary Repository (at update.zenoss.com)
[21-Jan-2009 06:25:37] **axentrix> I'm trying to monitor performance, and bandwith on each interface, on cisco asa 5510 and pix 515E. Installed the zenpack "Cisco Adaptive Security Appliance", and got cpu/ram. I'm now trying to monitor the throughput on each interface, but get "MISSING RRD FILE". Any clues?
[21-Jan-2009 06:29:18] **axentrix> The good old catalyst 3550 are grphing though..
[21-Jan-2009 06:54:33] **maaarek> brb
[21-Jan-2009 08:03:49] **baffle_> axentrix: I have the same on Cisco 3560s, it has RRDs for gig0/1-9 and 0/52, but not 0/10-51 ... And I have no idea why.
[21-Jan-2009 08:34:17] **janwari> can Zenoss be used to monitor BIND ?
[21-Jan-2009 09:11:09] **ke4qqq> janwari: yes - what aspect of bind do you want to monitor?
[21-Jan-2009 09:11:39] **ke4qqq> I have it monitoring # of requests, # that it fulfills locally, # that it recursively provides, and # of nxdomains.
[21-Jan-2009 09:11:51] **ke4qqq> as well as monitoring that the process is alive
[21-Jan-2009 09:12:55] **baffle_> ke4qqq: Via ssh (or simmilar) or SNMP?
[21-Jan-2009 09:13:46] **ke4qqq> baffle_: via snmp, though all of those are running as commands and then feeding snmpd, so I assume that it wouldn't be too difficult to do via ssh
[21-Jan-2009 09:14:34] **baffle_> ke4qqq: Ah, okay. We wrote a small snmp-daemon in python that we add modules to, wich we proxy requests to.. I really hate execing things from snmpd.. :-/
[21-Jan-2009 09:14:51] **baffle_> ke4qqq: (Not for bind, only used it for memcached for now)
[21-Jan-2009 09:16:01] **ke4qqq> interesting
[21-Jan-2009 09:17:05] **baffle_> ke4qqq: We registred our own PEN for all our own SNMP stuff. Hopefully we'll get around to packaging it up some day.. :-)
[21-Jan-2009 09:19:47] **ke4qqq> that'd be cool - and very useful
[21-Jan-2009 09:22:33] **janwari> ke4qqq: im using ssh and zenplugins to monitor our servers. For BIND i would like to monitor how many requests it served and how which requests were served the most. Similar to what dnstop offers.
[21-Jan-2009 09:22:45] **janwari> Which plugin could be used to acrieve that ?
[21-Jan-2009 09:29:48] **ke4qqq> janwari: http://freshmeat.net/projects/bind9stats/ is one option
[21-Jan-2009 09:29:54] **adytum-bot> Title: freshmeat.net: Project details for Bind9 SNMP Subagent (at freshmeat.net)
[21-Jan-2009 09:39:31] **janwari> ke4qqq: but im not using snmp
[21-Jan-2009 09:41:20] **ke4qqq> right, so look at what is being execed by snmp - and exec those to get your values via ssh
[21-Jan-2009 09:48:54] **janwari> sweet thanks
[21-Jan-2009 16:21:57] **baffle_> Is there a way to supply a custom datapoint command with the IP of the device as an argument instead of $devname?
[21-Jan-2009 16:22:19] **baffle_> I have a few devices wich don't have a publically resolvable hostname.
[21-Jan-2009 16:27:18] **nemo2> you should probably make an entry in your /etc/hosts of your zenoss box
[21-Jan-2009 16:32:03] **baffle_> nemo2: I think I should set up a DNS instead.
[21-Jan-2009 16:33:44] **nemo2> possibly, but hosts files works
[21-Jan-2009 16:34:10] **nemo2> ( thats how dns used to happen )
[21-Jan-2009 16:50:13] **densone> hiya all In zenoss disk space monitoring is a low level event. I want all of my servers to throw alerts when disk is low. I have done this before, but can remember where to set the parameter. Can someone please help me out?
[21-Jan-2009 16:51:41] **rhett> you have to go into the template for the appropriate class and set a threshold. then attach that threshold to a graph and assign it a severity
[21-Jan-2009 16:52:33] **dranch> Hello.. I'm trying to figure out why the maintinence window feature in 2.2.3 doesn't seem to do anything
[21-Jan-2009 16:52:53] **nemo2> dranch, yeh i observed the same
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:09] **dranch> Hmmm.. is it fixed in a newer rev?
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:13] **nemo2> ive upgraded now, but i didnt think to check
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:21] **dranch> you running 2.3.1?
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:30] **nemo2> if your around tomorrow i will let you know
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:33] **nemo2> 2.3.2
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:42] **nemo2> i upgraded for the second time last night
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:44] **dranch> could you email the result to me?
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:54] **mrayzenoss> that sounds like this ticket: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4136
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:55] **nemo2> i dont have access to it right now
[21-Jan-2009 16:54:05] **mrayzenoss> which is scheduled for 2.3.3 and can be patched
[21-Jan-2009 16:54:33] **dranch> that ticket seems specific to windows
[21-Jan-2009 16:55:07] **dranch> I tried to search for "maintenance" in the bug tracking tool but it's a POS
[21-Jan-2009 16:55:55] **densone> rhett, so how do I find out what class disk space belongs to
[21-Jan-2009 16:56:13] **dranch> mray.. thanks for fixing the 2.3.1 release note issue
[21-Jan-2009 16:56:16] **rhett> densone: is it for a linux or windows host
[21-Jan-2009 16:56:16] **mrayzenoss> there's a report for what's targeted for 2.3.3: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/report/6
[21-Jan-2009 16:57:20] **rhett> well actually in either case click on the device class
[21-Jan-2009 16:57:32] **rhett> navigate to /Devices/Server
[21-Jan-2009 16:57:44] **rhett> click the templates tab. then select 'Filesystem'
[21-Jan-2009 16:58:13] **dranch> I can't find any existing ticket that matches my issue
[21-Jan-2009 16:58:29] **densone> awesome
[21-Jan-2009 16:58:42] **densone> thats exactly what I was looking for.
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:33] **densone> My company can't afford to pay for the zenoss support, but we want to talk to someone and maybe get some setup help. Does zenoss help with this?
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:35] **dranch> @nemo2: could you email me with the results tomorrow when you do have access?
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:36] **adytum-bot> dranch: Error: 'nemo2:' is not a valid command.
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:57] **dranch> nemo2: could you email me with the results tomorrow when you do have access?
[21-Jan-2009 17:00:07] **rhett> densome. no problem
[21-Jan-2009 17:00:11] **rhett> let me know if you need more help
[21-Jan-2009 17:00:26] **rhett> but you should be able to look at the exisiting threshold to see how to setup new ones
[21-Jan-2009 17:01:45] **nemo2> dranch, i am in the channel daily at work, just remind me
[21-Jan-2009 17:02:07] **dranch> So check in with you at 3pm tomorrow?
[21-Jan-2009 17:02:12] **nemo2> sure
[21-Jan-2009 17:03:01] **dranch> Cool. I hope this is fixed. Do you know if the upgrade from 2.2.4 to 2.3.2 would be an easy one?
[21-Jan-2009 17:03:43] **nemo2> well in general, i never found them easy, but keep running zenmigrate, with --step args if neccesary
[21-Jan-2009 17:03:54] **nemo2> work through the issues , and you will get there
[21-Jan-2009 17:04:38] **dranch> The previous person who did Zenoss here always had to re-install from scratch for 100% results. I can't afford that kind of time
[21-Jan-2009 17:05:13] **nemo2> same here, too much effort gone into tuning
[21-Jan-2009 17:05:49] **dranch> Ok.. I'll check in with you tomorrow . You have maintence windows every night?
[21-Jan-2009 17:05:59] **nemo2> i do have them set up
[21-Jan-2009 17:06:12] **nemo2> but i dont know exactley how they work
[21-Jan-2009 17:06:40] **nemo2> they didnt seem to work in any recognisable way and i moved on to more pressing issues, and hard work
[21-Jan-2009 17:07:00] **dranch> Do you have a way to test them? ie. outside the window, do something to cause an alert and make sure you get it. then, in the window, do it again and make sure you don't get an alert?
[21-Jan-2009 17:07:40] **nemo2> there is always something happening on my zenoss install, no tests needed
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:05] **nemo2> we have tight prod / no prod hours, i see maintenance start every night when shifts close
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:23] **nemo2> boxes going up / down etc
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:25] **dranch> Well.. this isn't an install so much as a functionality test. everything else seems to be ok for my needs
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:54] **densone> rhett, another question. Trying to add alerting rule in FF3 for the Mac, and it asks me for an id. I add some type of id. Click OK and nothing happens. Any idea ?
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:28] **nemo2> densone, just a name
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:35] **nemo2> like myrule
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:38] **densone> ok
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:39] **dranch> Ok.. to be specific, I use per-class maintenance windows (class --> linux --> www)
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:57] **densone> and the OK button wont click.
[21-Jan-2009 17:10:23] **nemo2> dranch, me too
[21-Jan-2009 17:21:29] **rhett> densone: hm i did have some weird issues but ive been using the beta (im on osx 10.5.6)
[21-Jan-2009 17:21:51] **rhett> sorry. i was having weird problems like that but they seemed to stop while i was using the lastest beta
[21-Jan-2009 17:21:53] **densone> its a cross domain scripting issue
[21-Jan-2009 17:34:53] **densone> rhett, do monitoring windows need to be setup for alerts to work?
[21-Jan-2009 17:35:29] **rhett> :\ i dont know i only have 1 windows box that i monitor minimally
[21-Jan-2009 17:44:17] **mrayzenoss> densone: no you don't need monitoring windows
[21-Jan-2009 17:44:30] **densone> thx
[21-Jan-2009 17:47:11] **rhett> i completely misread that line
[21-Jan-2009 17:47:13] **rhett> haha
[21-Jan-2009 17:48:45] **mrayzenoss> monitoring windows are completely optional, alerts work without using them
[21-Jan-2009 17:49:07] **mrayzenoss> be back tomorrow for the developer IRC session at 11am EST
[21-Jan-2009 17:49:09] **mrayzenoss> later
[21-Jan-2009 17:52:31] **rhett> yay
[21-Jan-2009 17:59:59] **gem-in-eye> I don't recall if I asked this before. Is there a way to allow users to only see certain machines that belong to them? Right now a user can see every box on our network.
[21-Jan-2009 18:49:57] **gem-in-eye> What does WMI get you that SNMP doesn't?
[21-Jan-2009 19:59:23] **loflika> Does anyone else every have issues with Zenoss dying? Or folks have some sort of a regular restart script?
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[22-Jan-2009 04:20:42] **zarxcky> hola!
[22-Jan-2009 04:24:06] **zarxcky> anybody alive?
[22-Jan-2009 06:18:40] **dalfz> devices or services with a grey status button - what does it mean?
[22-Jan-2009 06:19:02] **dalfz> can't find that in the admin manual
[22-Jan-2009 06:35:32] **nemo_> grey is severity "clear"
[22-Jan-2009 06:35:45] **raw> does Zenoss core support remote collectors?
[22-Jan-2009 06:35:57] **raw> or can it only do localhost?
[22-Jan-2009 06:36:39] **dalfz> nemo_ um, what's the difference between "clear" and "ok" (green)?
[22-Jan-2009 06:36:45] **nemo_> i believe distributed collector are part of enterprise only raw
[22-Jan-2009 06:36:59] **nemo_> technically is possible to run 2 copies and configure them by hand tho
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:23] **raw> you mean 2 seperate instances of Zenoss core I assume?
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:34] **nemo_> dalfz, google zenoss severity levels
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:40] **nemo_> raw yes
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:47] **nemo_> i run enterprise with collectors
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:55] **nemo_> so i didnt bother, but it is poss
[22-Jan-2009 06:38:43] **raw> apparently you can do distributed collectors on core: http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/HowToUseDistributedCollectors/
[22-Jan-2009 06:38:55] **raw> it's just a bit more involved than with enterprise from the looks of it
[22-Jan-2009 06:38:58] **adytum-bot> Title: How to use distributed collectors - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Jan-2009 06:39:13] **raw> I love how that bot does that
[22-Jan-2009 06:39:20] * raw pats adytum-bot on the head
[22-Jan-2009 06:50:42] **raw> is it possible to somehow have multiple zenoss core instances all connecting to the same central database, so that when a change is made on one it is reflected on all of them? (change in mibs, event classes, event transforms, etc..)
[22-Jan-2009 10:00:39] **mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening everybody
[22-Jan-2009 10:05:16] **cgibbons> crickets...
[22-Jan-2009 10:05:35] **MW-Trey> I know right?
[22-Jan-2009 10:06:54] **MW-Trey> Well I guess I can start-- i'm working on a client script that will access via xml-rpc.... is there a way to access the deviceSearch using xmlrpc instead of returning the entire device list and then searching that list on the client like I've seen on several example scripts?
[22-Jan-2009 10:10:46] **mrayzenoss> MW-Trey: it seems like that should be covered in the Dev guide
[22-Jan-2009 10:11:15] **mrayzenoss> and you want a specific device right?
[22-Jan-2009 10:12:17] **mrayzenoss> Chapter 7.4.2 of the Dev Guide has specific devices getting pulled via XML-RPC
[22-Jan-2009 10:13:05] **MW-Trey> I can pull a specific device without a problem, but the problem arises when I'm on the client and I don't know where that device resides in the device class tree
[22-Jan-2009 10:13:12] **MW-Trey> so I can't specify it directly
[22-Jan-2009 10:15:14] **mrayzenoss> so you want to call getSubDevices() to get the list, then only return things that match your string?
[22-Jan-2009 10:16:20] **MW-Trey> Well I'd rather have the sorting/finding done on the server, but if returning all devices and then searching that result is the only option.....
[22-Jan-2009 10:16:58] **mrayzenoss> no, just a sec, we're tracking it down
[22-Jan-2009 10:20:44] **MW-Trey> thanks
[22-Jan-2009 10:25:40] **klinstifen> I've got a simple question, I think...
[22-Jan-2009 10:25:57] **klinstifen> I've noticed there is a bit of delay between events and the email alerts I get
[22-Jan-2009 10:26:21] **klinstifen> ie If I intentionally restart the SNMP service on a windows box it will take ~4 mins before I get the email saying there was a cold start
[22-Jan-2009 10:26:44] **klinstifen> Is it the alert settings I need to modify or the settings in event manager or something else?
[22-Jan-2009 10:28:18] **mrayzenoss> MW-Trey: it's took awhile, but findDevice(string) seems to work
[22-Jan-2009 10:28:36] **mrayzenoss> MW-Trey: so if you do http://lserver:58080/zport/dmd/Devices/findDevice?devicename=k
[22-Jan-2009 10:29:38] **MW-Trey> I think the parameters might have been what was throwing me off.
[22-Jan-2009 10:29:40] **mrayzenoss> you'll get the first device with a name that matches the substring
[22-Jan-2009 10:31:25] **mrayzenoss> klinstifen: not a heavily loaded box right?
[22-Jan-2009 10:31:53] **klinstifen> right
[22-Jan-2009 10:32:07] **klinstifen> and sending emails via command line from the zenoss box appear instanlty in my inbox
[22-Jan-2009 10:33:28] **mrayzenoss> mrchippy is checking out the code for an explanation
[22-Jan-2009 10:33:53] **klinstifen> ok cool
[22-Jan-2009 10:36:48] **gangofnuns> I have a quick question about templates and how to apply them.
[22-Jan-2009 10:38:26] **gangofnuns> I have a few Device classes which contain servers of 2 different hardware platforms. I want to a apply a different custom template per platform (say, each platform has a different RAID controller), but I don't want to create a subclass for each.
[22-Jan-2009 10:38:50] **gangofnuns> One way to do this might be to add a custom collector, which discovers each raid controller. Are there other ways?
[22-Jan-2009 10:41:42] **mrayzenoss> usually it's 2 different device classes, but some collectors are smart enough
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[22-Jan-2009 10:42:31] **mrchippy> klinstifen-- there's the delay on the alert rule and the the cycle time of zenactions. by default, the zenactions cycle time is 1 minute, so on average your response time should be about ( delay + 30 seconds + transit time (which you said is ~0))
[22-Jan-2009 10:43:38] **klinstifen> mrchippy, that math is spot on
[22-Jan-2009 10:43:57] **klinstifen> my delay is 300 secs (5 mins) in the alert rules
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:02] **mrayzenoss> gangofnuns: I think the HPSIMMonitor has the logic built in if you're looking for an example
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:13] **klinstifen> and i got the email about 6 mins after the event was logged in zenoss
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:30] **mrchippy> coolio
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:34] **klinstifen> i set my delay high to prevent myself from getting spam'ed by up/down alerts
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:43] **klinstifen> so...i think i'll tweak that a bit
[22-Jan-2009 10:45:02] **klinstifen> thanks!
[22-Jan-2009 10:46:24] **janwari> besides ping is there any way to tell Zenoss to check whether the server is up or down. Our ISP has blocked ping packets to prevent DOS attacks and hence Zenoss always shows server down for all our servers
[22-Jan-2009 10:46:26] **gangofnuns> Thanks mray. I'll take a look at the code there. Cheers --
[22-Jan-2009 10:51:48] **jb> hi
[22-Jan-2009 10:53:33] **klinstifen> janwari, couldn't you use snmp?
[22-Jan-2009 10:53:43] **mrayzenoss> gangofnuns: trac-zenpacks/browser/zenpacks/ZenPacks.community.HPSIMMonitor/ZenPacks/community/HPSIMMonitor/modeler/plugins/community/snmp/HPDeviceTemplateMap.py
[22-Jan-2009 10:57:27] **mrayzenoss> janwari: we're talking about it right now
[22-Jan-2009 11:00:28] **janwari> klinstifen: no. We are using SSH
[22-Jan-2009 11:00:35] **janwari> and even for the admin tool we are using SSL
[22-Jan-2009 11:01:34] **mrayzenoss> janwari: It looks like you could just shutdown zenping and set the zEventAction to drop
[22-Jan-2009 11:01:50] **mrayzenoss> for /Events /Status /Ping
[22-Jan-2009 11:02:40] **janwari> ok let me try it
[22-Jan-2009 11:02:42] **mrayzenoss> then you could chang /Events /Status/SNMP from an Error to a Critical
[22-Jan-2009 11:02:50] * janwari restarting Zenoss VM
[22-Jan-2009 11:03:44] **janwari> mrayzenoss: this works only if u are using SNMP rite ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:04:01] **mrayzenoss> well, you could do it for WMI or SSH similarly
[22-Jan-2009 11:04:31] **janwari> ahh
[22-Jan-2009 11:05:46] **janwari> before i forget, i wanted to point out that in http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossannouncement.2008-12-17.3188552778 the Appliance Upgrade string is incorrect. It should actually be conary migrate --interactive --resolve group-zenoss=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-2.3
[22-Jan-2009 11:06:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Release Notes for Zenoss 2.3.2 - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Jan-2009 11:06:05] **janwari> s/core-2.3/core-2.3.2/
[22-Jan-2009 11:06:18] **mrayzenoss> thanks, I'll get that addressed
[22-Jan-2009 11:07:41] **janwari> this is just out of curiosity. Is it possible for Zenoss to send SMS alerts in case when the server is down. If i does it would be great and i would no longer need to use websitepulse.com
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:14] **mrayzenoss> mrchippy's battery died
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:21] **mrayzenoss> he was typing "Yes"
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:42] **mrayzenoss> You could do it a couple of different ways
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:44] **janwari> is it on any dev articles ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:57] **mrayzenoss> I haven't seen it specifically
[22-Jan-2009 11:11:36] **janwari> ok then what are the steps to follow?
[22-Jan-2009 11:12:43] **mrayzenoss> I'm looking around for docs on the watchdog
[22-Jan-2009 11:19:17] **klinstifen> i gotta run...thanks for the help guys
[22-Jan-2009 11:19:36] **janwari> how to shutdown zenping ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:21:00] **mrayzenoss> Settings->Daemons->zenping Stop
[22-Jan-2009 11:21:26] **jb> or "zenping stop" from a shell..
[22-Jan-2009 11:21:29] **janwari> ohh i see it now. thanks
[22-Jan-2009 11:23:36] **janwari> i am under /Events /Status /Perf
[22-Jan-2009 11:23:58] **janwari> now how do i add monitoring using CPU status ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:24:23] **jb> what do you mean?
[22-Jan-2009 11:24:29] **jb> are you already graphing CPU stats for the device?
[22-Jan-2009 11:24:51] **janwari> trying to add Zenoss server status monitoring using something else besides ping
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:03] **janwari> as our ISP has blocked ping packets to prevent DOS attacks
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:19] **jb> they block ICMP completely?
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:23] **janwari> yes
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:35] **janwari> no ping, traceroute, nmap etc
[22-Jan-2009 11:26:05] **jb> that sucks, especially since that doesn't really precent DOS attacks
[22-Jan-2009 11:26:13] **jb> prevent rather..
[22-Jan-2009 11:28:05] **mrayzenoss> I'm gonna let Chip off the hook for the session, I'll post the transcript this afternoon
[22-Jan-2009 11:28:36] **mrayzenoss> be back later
[22-Jan-2009 11:28:41] **jb> bye
[22-Jan-2009 12:16:00] **klinstifen> earlier today did they announce when the next dev session would be?
[22-Jan-2009 12:16:26] **jmp242> I missed it, but it's normally every 2 weeks I think
[22-Jan-2009 12:21:00] **klinstifen> ok cool thanks
[22-Jan-2009 12:33:15] **jmp242> you can post to the forums
[22-Jan-2009 12:33:21] **jmp242> and get help pretty much whenever
[22-Jan-2009 14:53:47] **gem-in-eye> Anyone ever tried to monitor an Avaya phone switch?
[22-Jan-2009 15:01:45] **rhett> shouldnt be an issue via snmp
[22-Jan-2009 15:03:27] **mrayzenoss> what does Avaya have available?
[22-Jan-2009 15:07:26] **monrad> anybody moved devices to other device classes via xml-rpc?
[22-Jan-2009 15:07:56] **rhett> not i'
[22-Jan-2009 15:08:30] **mrayzenoss> monrad: for what purpose?
[22-Jan-2009 15:08:45] **mrayzenoss> like scripting moving a bunch from Discovered to something else?
[22-Jan-2009 15:11:26] **monrad> mrayzenoss: yes something like that
[22-Jan-2009 15:11:41] **monrad> i played around with setting location on the devices today
[22-Jan-2009 15:13:01] **monrad> that worked pretty good
[22-Jan-2009 16:04:24] **gem-in-eye> I was hoping someone might have already setup monitoring of an Avaya phone switch so I don't have to hunt down the OIDs of useful data.
[22-Jan-2009 16:06:29] **rhett> ah
[22-Jan-2009 16:06:40] **rhett> when do you know what parameters you want to monitor?
[22-Jan-2009 16:07:00] **rhett> its not very difficult (relative i know) to create your own template and graphs once the MIB is loaded
[22-Jan-2009 16:15:28] **gem-in-eye> The mib is loaded. I'm using a freeware app to browse the whole tree which is immense. We want to know when the number of PRI circuits uses reaches 80% and the up/down status of all 115 or however many we will have in the future.
[22-Jan-2009 16:18:25] dcnoye_ is now known as dcnoye
[22-Jan-2009 16:49:16] **rhett> i see
[22-Jan-2009 17:00:19] **dranch> Hey Nemo2.. you there?
[22-Jan-2009 17:01:08] **nemo2> yeh here dranch , i guess were mixing timezones tho, its midnight here, i am at home again
[22-Jan-2009 17:01:28] **dranch> Did your maintenance window things work?
[22-Jan-2009 17:02:08] **nemo2> i didnt look, ( didnt think about it ) other things to fix. sry
[22-Jan-2009 17:02:35] **dranch> So when should I check with you again? You in the UK?
[22-Jan-2009 17:02:59] **nemo2> gmt+1
[22-Jan-2009 17:03:24] **nemo2> i will be there tomorrow afternoon 1-6pm
[22-Jan-2009 17:04:12] **dranch> It's 3pm my time and it's 12pm your time. So 8-9am tomorrow?
[22-Jan-2009 17:04:22] **dranch> my time
[22-Jan-2009 17:04:52] **nemo2> sounds about right
[22-Jan-2009 17:05:41] **dranch> ok.. I'll check back in. I appreciate it. Btw.. do you ONLY have 3.2.3 installed or do you have other nodes running say 2.2.3?
[22-Jan-2009 17:06:56] **nemo2> i upgraded from 2.2.3 to 2.3.2
[22-Jan-2009 17:07:19] **nemo2> i saw some copying going on during the migration to the collector node
[22-Jan-2009 17:07:49] **dranch> Ok. guess I'll have to do the same. I have a single node doing everything.. sounds like you have distributed. Are you running Core or Enterprise?
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:22] **nemo2> enterprise
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:34] **nemo2> its the same except some zenpacks and reports
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:49] **nemo2> i install zenoss, core zenpack + ent zenpacks
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:56] **nemo2> just diff skin
[22-Jan-2009 17:09:05] **dranch> agreed though I don't know if Core supports distributed poller nodes
[22-Jan-2009 17:09:20] **nemo2> it doesnt support it, but it can do it
[22-Jan-2009 17:09:39] **dranch> supported vs. works -- understood
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[23-Jan-2009 02:28:03] **husku> hi! im having problems with eventclassmapping/transform. does anyone have any _good_ docs what the options at the zproperties are supposed to do?
[23-Jan-2009 02:29:06] **husku> my regex does not miss, eventclass is correct, yet, what ever i try the event get created everytime
[23-Jan-2009 02:33:56] **husku> yes.. i rtfm
[23-Jan-2009 02:35:56] **zarxcky> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/events-documentation-and-examples/zenoss_event_management_paper.pdf
[23-Jan-2009 02:37:13] **husku> thx
[23-Jan-2009 02:45:17] **husku> zarxcky: well, should i even use the zproperties tab in eventclassmappings? it seems that some of the documents say to use transform field and some say to use zproperties tab
[23-Jan-2009 03:17:32] **husku> im starting to think that i cant use eventclassmappings with zenwin events?
[23-Jan-2009 08:24:57] **raw> does anyone know if there's a way to redefine Zenoss severity levels? Like, I want to rename Critical to Major and Error to Minor
[23-Jan-2009 08:55:26] **raw> does anyone have a line that would strip non-alphanumeric characters from a string stored in a variable?
[23-Jan-2009 08:55:59] **raw> when I pull a certain value from a Cisco switch I get an interface name with some non alpha chars at the end which causes Zenoss to create 3 seperate events...
[23-Jan-2009 08:56:04] **raw> New VLAN created for FastEthernet0/1
[23-Jan-2009 08:56:11] **raw> New VLAN created for �Ähx�)¸
[23-Jan-2009 08:56:16] **raw> New VLAN created for ÿÿÿÿ
[23-Jan-2009 09:06:12] **Zor> How would I give my admin account full rights to.. everything, I guess?
[23-Jan-2009 09:06:31] **raw> it should have full right by default, hence why it's an admin account
[23-Jan-2009 09:07:38] **Zor> Hmm well
[23-Jan-2009 09:07:47] **Zor> Shouldn't I be able to, for example, add commands via the webserver?
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:08] **raw> what do you mean by add commands?
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:35] **Zor> like, Settings -> Commands
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:43] **Zor> Those that'll run ciommands via the shell, I think
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:48] **raw> yes...
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:14] **raw> now whether or not Zenoss will actually be able to execute those commands is based on the permissions on the system that you are running Zenoss on, and not on Zenoss itself
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:44] **Zor> Of course, of course
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:49] **raw> if the zenoss user doesn't have access to execute a particular binary then it won't work
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:52] **Zor> And uh, just figured it was that dropdown at the top of the tables
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:00] **Zor> Haha
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:13] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:21] **Zor> Do I have to do anything in particular to make Zenoss monitor my system? Or does it do that already?
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:36] **raw> what type of system are you monitoring?
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:54] **Zor> Platform? CentOS 5
[23-Jan-2009 09:11:48] **raw> It'll have some basic monitoring for the get go, but if you want more advanced monitoring you need to install an SNMP agent on the server so that it can send snmp traps to Zenoss, then you need to install MIBs in to Zenoss so that it can interpret the traps
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:06] **raw> Zenoss is really more of a Enterprise level product than something you would use to monitor your home server
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:18] **raw> from the get go* rather
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:41] **Zor> This isn't a home server anyway so that's fine ;P
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:47] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:08] **raw> I've just started working with Zenoss and I've spent quite a bit of time setting up the instance that I'm working on, it's a lot of work
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:33] **Zor> That's what I imagined
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:40] **raw> we're going to be monitoring Cisco switches, routers, accesspoints, all different kinds of servers
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:42] **Zor> But I'm guessing the results will be wonderful
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:51] **raw> yeh, it's coming along nicely for sure
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:02] **Zor> Device Name — Enter the fully qualified domain name or IP address of a device on your
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:02] **Zor> network.
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:04] **Zor> Oh, sorry
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:08] **Zor> That paste broke.
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:12] **raw> hehe
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:24] **Zor> In any case, was going to ask -- is this the IP of a computer I want to monitor, for example?
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:31] **raw> yes
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:38] **raw> IP of any device you want to monitor
[23-Jan-2009 09:15:10] **raw> then Zenoss will go out and do what's called modelling, it'll essentially scan through the device whichever way it can to collect data
[23-Jan-2009 09:15:30] **raw> but depending on what you have setup in terms of monitoring it might find little to nothing
[23-Jan-2009 09:16:02] **Zor> Hmm -- so if I just want to monitor my Linux system, I'd need to install something else than just Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 09:16:44] **raw> The linux server needs something to talk to Zenoss with
[23-Jan-2009 09:17:05] **raw> have you read through the Zenoss Admin Manual at all?
[23-Jan-2009 09:17:49] **raw> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/Zenoss_Administration_2.3.0.pdf.zip
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:28] **Zor> Not really -- I've only just set it up.
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:39] **raw> I'd recommend reading the manual if you intend to use it
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:41] **Zor> Looking through the quickstart at the moment, guess I'll get that too.
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:46] **raw> it'll answer pretty much everything
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:51] **raw> it's a long read, but it's good
[23-Jan-2009 09:19:02] **Zor> Alright, will give that a shot.
[23-Jan-2009 09:20:58] **Zor> Hmm, could you point me at a specific part of the admin guide?
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:15] **Zor> That is, for adding devices and using some sort of software to communicate with Zenoss with.
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:21] **raw> you really need to read all of it
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:46] **raw> or most of it anyways, the first 270 pages are relevant
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:56] **raw> the last 30 are all zenoss enterprise related
[23-Jan-2009 09:22:15] **Zor> Well yah, but I figured it'd be a bad idea to read the usage first and adding devices later, since, I'd probably forget the usage then
[23-Jan-2009 09:27:15] **raw> the admin manual covers everything, and it's important to read over it even if you only vaguely remember some of the stuff afterwards
[23-Jan-2009 09:27:45] **raw> at least you'll have a basic understanding of the Zenoss structure and how it works
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:13] **raw> not reading through the manual when intending to use a product like Zenoss is just plain lazy
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:28] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:33] **Zor> Oh, I'll read it of course ;P
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:45] **Zor> Just that I figured I'd read the sections in a more 'feasable' order
[23-Jan-2009 09:29:03] **raw> after you read through you'll know what sections of the manual cover what and you'll be able to jump back to them for a more in depth read as necessary
[23-Jan-2009 09:29:49] **Zor> True.
[23-Jan-2009 09:31:39] **raw> eugh, google really sucks sometimes, I'm just trying to look for a simple example of how to strip everything except alphanumeric characters from a string using python, but all of the examples are either way too advanced or completely irrelevant
[23-Jan-2009 09:34:59] **Zor> Haha
[23-Jan-2009 09:35:08] **Zor> I agree.
[23-Jan-2009 09:35:18] **nemo_> lol pythons newbs
[23-Jan-2009 10:01:41] **raw> yup, I'm a newb, but at least I'm making an effort
[23-Jan-2009 10:03:28] **gem-in-eye> Is it typical to see a bunch of debug events stating that OIDs are invalid after adding a Cisco router with SNMP? Ever time I add one of our routers I get another 50 debug events that just won't go away.
[23-Jan-2009 10:04:46] **raw> gem, I've been seeing a few of those in our test environment as well, not sure what's causing it yet
[23-Jan-2009 10:05:01] **raw> have you installed all of the Cisco MIBs?
[23-Jan-2009 10:06:09] **gem-in-eye> If I say no will you still tease me for acting like a newbie?
[23-Jan-2009 10:07:02] **raw> I wasn't teasing you
[23-Jan-2009 10:07:15] **raw> but yeh, you need to get all of the Cisco MIBs installed
[23-Jan-2009 10:07:22] **gem-in-eye> not yet :-D
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:04] **raw> what OS are you running Zenoss on?
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:11] **gem-in-eye> Centos 5
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:14] **raw> k
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:58] **raw> you need to install libsmi2 & libsmi2-common on the server for starters
[23-Jan-2009 10:09:04] **raw> since most Cisco MIBs depend on those
[23-Jan-2009 10:12:08] **raw> I'm going to write up some guide on installing the Cisco MIBs since it took me like 12 hours of total research and work to get them all finally installed
[23-Jan-2009 10:12:13] **raw> ran in to so many problems
[23-Jan-2009 10:18:14] **raw> gem-in-eye you basically have to install every single MIB available instead of just installing specific ones, otherwise you'll end up missing stuff
[23-Jan-2009 10:30:30] **gem-in-eye> There's like, a lot of mibs
[23-Jan-2009 10:37:28] **raw> yup
[23-Jan-2009 10:37:39] **raw> 1128 to be precise
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:17] **gem-in-eye> By any chance do you happen to have an "easy" way of doing that without having to download 1128 individual mibs?
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:34] **raw> you download them as a pack from the cisco site
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:48] **raw> I'll have links in my guide since I had to modify some MIBS to work with Zenoss
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:56] **raw> so just hold off until the guide is ready
[23-Jan-2009 10:39:29] **gem-in-eye> I have to wait....... oh....... alright :-(
[23-Jan-2009 10:40:14] **raw> it took me a lot of time to figure out the process, trust me, you'd spend more time figuring it out than waiting until Monday
[23-Jan-2009 10:40:43] **gem-in-eye> Will your guide have links on where to get libsmi2 and libsmi2-common? I can't find an RPM for Centos 5
[23-Jan-2009 10:41:04] **raw> not really, you need to figure that part out for yourself
[23-Jan-2009 10:41:22] **raw> in Ubuntu Server it was just apt-get install libsmi2 libsmi2-common
[23-Jan-2009 10:41:24] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 10:48:06] **raw> ok, so whoever here is good with python, I need help removing all non-alphanumeric characters from a string except for /
[23-Jan-2009 10:48:18] **raw> so far the closest function I've found is re.sub('[^A-Z^a-z^0-9^:]+', ' ', word).split(' '))
[23-Jan-2009 10:49:29] **raw> re.sub('[^A-Z^a-z^0-9^/]+', '', word)
[23-Jan-2009 10:49:32] **raw> would that works?
[23-Jan-2009 10:49:34] **raw> work*
[23-Jan-2009 10:51:35] **raw> hmmm, I sort of have it
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:27] **gem-in-eye> Here's how you would do it with sed, perhaps it could help guide you? sed -e 's%[^a-zA-Z0-9/]%%'
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:34] **raw> got it
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:38] **raw> re.sub('[^A-Z^a-z^0-9^/]+', '', string)
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:42] **raw> that does what I want
[23-Jan-2009 11:00:40] **raw> eugh
[23-Jan-2009 11:00:44] **raw> well, it stripped the characters
[23-Jan-2009 11:01:25] **raw> but I'm still getting 2 more events with blank interface info, so I need to add a line to set the severity to clear if the interface name is 2 characters or less
[23-Jan-2009 11:13:00] **raw> weirdest Zenoss problem ever, if I set it to change the severity to 0 if the length of the interface value is less than 3 it changes all 3 of the events to clear, as though it's running through the script once but creating 3 events, 1 good event and 2 events with junk instead of an interface name
[23-Jan-2009 12:40:59] **raw> does anyone know if Zenoss encrypts it's database at all?
[23-Jan-2009 12:41:15] **raw> we're going to be storing passwords in Zenoss and they need to be encrypted
[23-Jan-2009 12:41:16] **dalfz> i have a windows server which has no http daemon, why does zenoss insist on monitoring it, and why does error-severity event never stop after i've disabled monitoring on it in OS-tab
[23-Jan-2009 12:41:50] **raw> dalfz: is it possible that the server is actually sending snmp traps to Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 12:42:24] **raw> traps come in regardless of how the monitoring is setup in the OS tab
[23-Jan-2009 12:42:45] **dalfz> raw i haven't set that up and i don't even know how, but let me check with tcpdump
[23-Jan-2009 12:42:51] **raw> k
[23-Jan-2009 12:43:31] **dalfz> btw, anyone had cisco routers crashing after enabling zenoss monitoring on them?
[23-Jan-2009 12:45:44] **raw> haven't had any problems with cisco routers crashing
[23-Jan-2009 12:45:58] **raw> what error do they crash with?
[23-Jan-2009 12:46:21] **croww> dalfz: nope, got a lot of cisco gear on zenoss with no issues
[23-Jan-2009 12:46:58] **croww> dalfz: careful which OIDs you pull on big routers, could get cpu heavy
[23-Jan-2009 12:47:55] **raw> you could probably pull the same OIDs, just at lower intervals
[23-Jan-2009 12:47:58] **dalfz> one of the the C3750s rebooted and reported System returned to ROM by error - Debug Exception (Could be NULL pointer dereference) Exception (0x2000)!, PC 0x1E2054
[23-Jan-2009 12:48:16] **dalfz> System image file is "flash:/c3750-advipservicesk9-mz.122-25.SED.bin"
[23-Jan-2009 12:48:49] **dalfz> croww yes, i noticed the cpu load
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:14] **croww> try not to monitor vlans and uvlans?
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:15] **raw> 3750 is catalyst correct?
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:28] **dalfz> raw i'm guessing the error is due to multiple monitoring-softwares pulling on it
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:45] **dalfz> raw yes
[23-Jan-2009 12:50:10] **raw> there's a section on those types of errors: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps5023/products_tech_note09186a00807ccc79.shtml#deref
[23-Jan-2009 12:50:43] **raw> it could have to do with the monitoring software or it could be something else entirely
[23-Jan-2009 12:50:50] **raw> are you seeing any other devices with the same error?
[23-Jan-2009 12:51:58] **dalfz> croww yes, i guess i should minimize everything
[23-Jan-2009 12:52:41] **raw> no one knows whether or not Zenoss stores passwords encrypted?
[23-Jan-2009 12:53:16] **dalfz> raw thanks, i've seen that page myself, but it doesn't seem to be directly related to snmp activity?
[23-Jan-2009 12:54:16] **dalfz> raw i suggest you logon and check the database?
[23-Jan-2009 12:54:43] **raw> dalfz: the crashes may not be related to snmp activity, I work with tons of Cisco devices belonging to several different companies every day, sometimes devices just go bad after working fine for a long time
[23-Jan-2009 12:56:21] **dalfz> raw that's true. but unfortunately this C3750 crashes regularly (during intervals 1-3 days) until i remove Zenoss, so it must be related somehow. guess my option is to go easy on it
[23-Jan-2009 12:56:48] **dalfz> and remove cacti's collector
[23-Jan-2009 12:59:55] **dalfz> anyway, thanks for discussing this cisco issue with me, i can report back if i find exactly what happens
[23-Jan-2009 13:05:21] **gem-in-eye> Does the OS screen collect info only through SNMP for the Interfaces, IP Services, File Systems, and Routes?
[23-Jan-2009 13:05:49] **raw> I'm not 100% sure because we're using both SNMP and WMI on our test server
[23-Jan-2009 13:06:30] **gem-in-eye> That's my preferred way of doing it, but our Exchange admin won't let me intstall SNMP on his boxes.
[23-Jan-2009 13:06:46] **raw> any particular reason?
[23-Jan-2009 13:08:25] **gem-in-eye> Something having to do with Exchange being very fickle about it's memory allocation and not wanting to mess with adding more processes that could disrupt it's Feng Shui
[23-Jan-2009 13:08:42] **raw> I see
[23-Jan-2009 13:08:59] **raw> I'm pretty sure that WMI is more taxing on a system than SNMP, but whatever
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:01] **gem-in-eye> Yeah, but WMI is already installed and running so. Unfortunately WMI isn't working for me. The only thing I can pull are the services.
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:22] **raw> I think you need to create a templare and specify what you want to pull
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:26] **dalfz> gem-in-eye i can understand him, exchange is really a challenge we switched to zimbra because maintaining exchange was a nightmare
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:30] **raw> try googling for WMI setup guides for Zenoss
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:46] **raw> templare == template*
[23-Jan-2009 13:15:50] **dalfz> raw tcpdump says three packets are sent to my server's http port with S-flag, but what is doing that? i guess i missed something somewhere
[23-Jan-2009 13:16:08] **dalfz> they are sent each minute
[23-Jan-2009 13:16:30] **raw> that wouldn't be snmp
[23-Jan-2009 13:18:20] **dalfz> raw any idea what could it be?
[23-Jan-2009 13:18:37] **raw> no idea
[23-Jan-2009 13:19:05] **raw> it might be zenoss scanning ports?
[23-Jan-2009 13:22:07] **dalfz> zenoss only sends syn packets to www-port on that server, no other ports. where do i config that port scanning?
[23-Jan-2009 13:39:50] **raw> I can't believe that there's no documentation on whether or not Zenoss stores it's passwords encrypted
[23-Jan-2009 13:40:05] **raw> now I have to go digging through the database looking for it
[23-Jan-2009 13:40:10] **raw> eugh
[23-Jan-2009 13:42:00] **raw> not sure where you'd configure that, you sure it's coming from Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 13:42:07] **raw> can you see the address that it's coming from?
[23-Jan-2009 13:42:48] **dalfz> raw yes, i'm running tcpdump on the zenoss box:) and after packets have been sent, ipservices/http is set to down
[23-Jan-2009 13:43:05] **raw> ah
[23-Jan-2009 13:43:57] **raw> that's listed under IP Services in Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 13:45:24] **dalfz> raw, yes and i disabled monitoring showing a grey status- and red monitoring-buttons, but still it spits out critical events. it smells like a bug
[23-Jan-2009 13:45:41] **raw> why don't you just delete http from IP Services?
[23-Jan-2009 13:48:14] **dalfz> raw i tried that first, but it came back. this is weird
[23-Jan-2009 13:48:23] **raw> it won't re-add the service to the IP Services list unless you remodel the device, or it shouldn't
[23-Jan-2009 13:48:52] **dalfz> i'll try again
[23-Jan-2009 14:00:13] **raw> this database is like impossible to connect to
[23-Jan-2009 14:00:14] **raw> grrr
[23-Jan-2009 14:00:43] **raw> trying to get on with phpmyadmin but it won't connect to it
[23-Jan-2009 14:03:40] **dalfz> you could try mysql command line tool
[23-Jan-2009 14:03:55] **dalfz> if you have the root pass, then you can access it
[23-Jan-2009 14:11:07] **dalfz> raw i think zenoss runs its own instance of mysql on port 3307
[23-Jan-2009 14:16:07] **raw> I just found that out like 2 minutes before you said it
[23-Jan-2009 14:16:08] **raw> lol
[23-Jan-2009 14:17:52] **raw> now I just need to figure out where it stores that setting
[23-Jan-2009 14:19:21] **dalfz>
[23-Jan-2009 14:20:29] **raw> and zenoss doesn't even appear to store anything in the sql database other than events
[23-Jan-2009 14:28:27] **raw> the password is stored in Zope, I finally found it
[23-Jan-2009 14:28:41] **raw> and it's displayed plaintext, now I need to know if the Zope database is encrypted at all
[23-Jan-2009 14:29:04] **dalfz> try grep'ing files
[23-Jan-2009 14:35:58] **nemo2> raw, i think its Data.fs or similar
[23-Jan-2009 14:36:16] **nemo2> correct events into mysql, zeo db holds all device info
[23-Jan-2009 14:36:40] **nemo2> many wish it had been different ( the people who need to integrate with it )
[23-Jan-2009 14:36:54] **nemo2> i make an hourly mysql copy of the important bits of the zeo db
[23-Jan-2009 14:37:35] **dalfz> should i create a specific user on a windows box for wmi access?
[23-Jan-2009 14:37:55] **dalfz> i don't like the idea of using an admin-privileged account
[23-Jan-2009 14:39:55] **nemo2> yes and i heard that was fixed in 2.3
[23-Jan-2009 14:40:13] **nemo2> i got it working and stopped using it, it needed domain admin in 2.2.3
[23-Jan-2009 14:40:30] **nemo2> i didnt verify wmi in 2.3.2 yet tho
[23-Jan-2009 14:40:59] **dalfz> do you know what access group i should put the user in?
[23-Jan-2009 14:41:18] **nemo2> in your domain admins group i guess
[23-Jan-2009 14:41:27] **nemo2> best read the wmi howtos
[23-Jan-2009 14:42:01] **dalfz> yes, thanks
[23-Jan-2009 22:54:57] **sergeymasushko> can anybody help with the following issue: zenoss detected that snmp agent is down and create appropriate event, besides when the problem solved it does not clear the event. so i have 'hung' event that prevent data information collect, so i see empty graphs. when i manually move event to the history it starts to collect data. What can cause such hung events and how i can avoid it?
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[25-Jan-2009 08:46:11] **kim0> Hi, I have a large number of machines added to zenoss. I want to monitor a process named "step1" on half of the machines, and monitor process named "step2" on the second half of the machines. What's the best way to handle that ?
[25-Jan-2009 08:46:35] **kim0> Can I specify which processes are monitored on a class or group level ?
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[26-Jan-2009 02:50:40] **PierreM> hi guys... question - i have a few (about 15) Liebert UPS's I want to monitor using snmp - I got the MIB's loaded via CLI , and now i am lost - how do i get zenoss to USE the mib's ?
[26-Jan-2009 02:52:37] **PierreM> all i get zenoss to currently do is show me the device is up - whci his awesome and all - but what about graphing / displaying power levels / charge / drain / etc ? surely that is why i load the mib - to have zenoss be able to interface properly with these devices?
[26-Jan-2009 02:56:49] **nemo_> zenmib --help ( as zenoss ) for tips
[26-Jan-2009 03:03:43] **PierreM> thanks nemo ... i apologise if my Q seems silly.. i am very new to this... and the command is 'zenmib help'
[26-Jan-2009 03:08:59] **PierreM> nemo - not sure what i am looking for there - i did run a zenmib run in the dir where the mibs are located (/ZENHOME/share/mibs)
[26-Jan-2009 03:30:55] **PierreM> anyone ?
[26-Jan-2009 04:15:41] **nemo_> anyone have issues withe accuraccy of disk alerts ?
[26-Jan-2009 04:15:44] **nemo_> esp on bigger disks
[26-Jan-2009 07:23:21] **jmp242> hey - does anyone know if Warning severity events age out like info?
[26-Jan-2009 07:30:57] **nemo_> there is a setting ( under settings ! )
[26-Jan-2009 07:31:02] **nemo_> for event aging
[26-Jan-2009 07:31:28] **nemo_> you select which level and above dont get auto aged
[26-Jan-2009 07:36:13] **jmp242> thanks, in 2.2.4 I actually found it under Event Manager... Default was error, changed to Warning
[26-Jan-2009 07:36:14] **jmp242> THanks
[26-Jan-2009 07:40:42] **nemo_> kool.
[26-Jan-2009 09:22:56] **dranch> hey Nemo2?
[26-Jan-2009 09:27:22] **dranch> Nemo2: If you see this before you leave work, could you see if the new 2.3.2 code is running maintenance windows ok?
[26-Jan-2009 09:31:49] **nemo_> hey dranch
[26-Jan-2009 09:31:52] **nemo_> second i check it
[26-Jan-2009 09:31:58] **dranch> cool!
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:00] **nemo_> mine is set per location btw
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:18] **dranch> So you're running as both nemo_ and nemo2?
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:39] **nemo_> two different locations yeh
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:45] **dranch> gotcha
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:46] **nemo_> pm's dont work on freenode anyhoo
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:47] **nemo_>
[26-Jan-2009 09:34:52] **nemo_> dranch
[26-Jan-2009 09:35:12] **nemo_> i only have an old disabled one setup ( figures that i checked it didnt work and i disabled it )
[26-Jan-2009 09:35:21] **nemo_> i need to set it up again and we will see ..
[26-Jan-2009 09:37:10] **dranch> Gah. Can you setup a new one, monitor some test server, put it in a maint window, and reboot it?
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:13] **nemo_> not really
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:18] **nemo_> i gotta leave it for tonight
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:32] **nemo_> we are in production
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:35] **nemo_> not testing
[26-Jan-2009 09:39:10] **dranch> Would you have any results tomorrow morning (my time)?
[26-Jan-2009 09:39:14] **nemo_> i setup the maint window for 22.15pm
[26-Jan-2009 09:39:20] **nemo_> until 7.30am
[26-Jan-2009 09:40:33] **dranch> That's a huge window. Anyway.. can you test it tonight.. say if I log back in 3pm mytime (12pm) your time?
[26-Jan-2009 09:42:18] **nemo_> unfortunately i will be @ home then, and not on the work network
[26-Jan-2009 09:42:37] **nemo_> but as long as i dont have any events in europe over those times, i think we can consider it working
[26-Jan-2009 09:42:50] **nemo_> logs should confirm or not
[26-Jan-2009 09:43:37] **dranch> Ok.. so correct me if I misunderstand but you can't VPN into work from home so if I check in tomorrow morning (my time) you'll probably know if things worked properly?
[26-Jan-2009 09:43:52] **nemo_> sure but i worked enough today already
[26-Jan-2009 09:44:01] **nemo_> i dont remote in unless its a paid emergency
[26-Jan-2009 09:44:07] **nemo_> is this a paid emergency ??
[26-Jan-2009 09:44:22] **dranch> Hehe.. sounds nice. I'm a salaried slave
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:03] **dranch> Ok.. so the plan is tomorrow morning around this time?
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:15] **nemo_> yeh your morning, my evening
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:24] **nemo_> just check back tomorrow and we will look @ the logs
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:55] **dranch> Cool.. I do appreciate you looking at this for me. Always best to work through the issues with a real person vs. dealing with all the forum crap, noise, etc.
[26-Jan-2009 09:47:20] **nemo_> np
[26-Jan-2009 09:47:28] **nemo_> we both want to use maint windows
[26-Jan-2009 09:47:35] **nemo_> lets hope they do something this time
[26-Jan-2009 09:49:00] **dranch> Well.. more like NOT do anything in the maint window. Upgrading has me a bit worried though. I think I'll take this opportunity to setup a redundant server that's shut down when the other one is active. Do you know if Zenoss officially supports ACTIVE redundancy?
[26-Jan-2009 09:50:07] **nemo_> there is a faq about clustering zenoss
[26-Jan-2009 09:50:19] **nemo_> but it just uses the normal clustering tools
[26-Jan-2009 09:51:53] **dranch> Hmmm.. ok. I'll check that out. Gotta take off.. I'll check in tomorrow. thanks again
[26-Jan-2009 09:52:05] **nemo_> gl
[26-Jan-2009 11:52:07] **C_Kode> Hi, I installed the MySQL zenpack, but I cannot figure how to set the login information for it. zProperties or whatever it may be.
[26-Jan-2009 11:52:19] **C_Kode> Can someone point me in the right direction?
[26-Jan-2009 11:55:05] **nemo2> zProperties on the class of the device
[26-Jan-2009 11:55:13] **nemo2> i set it up today
[26-Jan-2009 11:55:56] **C_Kode> Thanks!
[26-Jan-2009 12:02:47] **raw> I just finished writing up a guide for installing all Cisco Mibs in to Zenoss if anyone is interested in having a read: http://demonic.cc/?p=20
[26-Jan-2009 12:02:54] **raw> suggestions for improvement are welcome
[26-Jan-2009 12:02:56] **adytum-bot> Title: demonic.cc » Installing Cisco Mibs in Zenoss (at demonic.cc)
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:05] **nemo2> raw , will have a proper look tomorrow
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:11] **raw> cool
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:13] **nemo2> my mibs cant be right, esp since upgrade
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:26] **nemo2> lots of new unknowns
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:37] **raw> it was a total pain to get them to load, the guide is a bit sketchy but it does work
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:47] **nemo2> i can deal with sketchy
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:51] **raw> hehe
[26-Jan-2009 12:07:36] **raw> I was writing some parts a bit off the top of my head, so if you try it out and run in to any issues let me know so that I can correct or add the necessary info
[26-Jan-2009 12:07:59] **raw> but chances are that it's fine as is
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:02] **nemo2> sure will do, i got lots of mibs loaded already
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:08] **nemo2> but i notice many errors
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:40] **raw> yeh, I originally kind of settled for the errors, but we are a network monitoring company so we can't really have missing MIBs no matter what they are
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:53] **raw> so I spent hours figuring out how to load them all hehe
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:12] **nemo2> understood, i had some messages coming from the ups, saying snmp trap 2.33.2.1
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:18] **nemo2> unhelpful :/
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:23] **raw> very
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:25] **nemo2> used to work before upgrade ...
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:38] **raw> hmmm, what version are you running?
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:43] **nemo2> 2.3.2 ent
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:57] **nemo2> its not really any different to core
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:05] **nemo2> ent == a few zenpacks extra
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:07] **raw> yeh
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:21] **raw> and $30,000-$50,000/year
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:24] **raw>
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:50] **nemo2> yeh please dont dare to ask me if i think its worth it
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:53] **raw> I think ent has a lot of transforms predone and stuff though doesn't it?
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:05] **nemo2> nah i did every one myself ...
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:10] **raw> ah
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:13] **nemo2> it has reports
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:18] **nemo2> ent reports zenpack
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:22] **raw> doesn't core have reports?
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:32] **raw> oh, you mean predone reports
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:33] **nemo2> and it does multiple collectors
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:45] **nemo2> yeh a prefab set of enterprise reports
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:47] **raw> you can do multiple collectors with core, you just need to know what to change
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:51] **nemo2> and some other zenpacks
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:01] **nemo2> yeh i know how it works only too well now
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:08] **raw> hehe
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:13] **nemo2> it didnt use to work properly and you had to edit the files anyway
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:15] **raw> too late to go back though for you
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:20] **nemo2> but now the collector stuff does work
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:27] **raw> yeh
[26-Jan-2009 12:13:12] **raw> we're setting up Noc monitoring tools and doing it all opensource
[26-Jan-2009 12:13:20] **raw> it's quite the project, but we're making good progress
[26-Jan-2009 12:14:03] **nemo2> and how is zenoss working out for you ?
[26-Jan-2009 12:14:29] **nemo2> i had to make a mysql copy of the data available from zeo
[26-Jan-2009 12:14:40] **nemo2> i got hassled so much that zenoss doesnt use mysql for device data
[26-Jan-2009 12:17:12] **raw> zenoss is working very well now that I've figured most of it out
[26-Jan-2009 12:17:29] **raw> once I got the Mibs all installed and started messing with the transforms we were good to go
[26-Jan-2009 12:18:09] **nemo2> how many devices do you monitor
[26-Jan-2009 12:18:12] **raw> I wasn't even originally assigned to this project, the engineers came to me and were like "this is Zenoss, think you can figure it out, because none of us can so far"
[26-Jan-2009 12:18:31] **nemo2> and how many events
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:12] **nemo2> same happened to me, ive been running it a year
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:19] **raw> we're not monitoring anything yet, right now we are contracting for another company supporting their clients with their monitoring tools (actually, the company I used to work for), and at the same time we are developing our own tools. We take on our first client at the end of Feb which will be just over 100 devices
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:20] **nemo2> and i am still not in phase II
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:29] **raw> we'll probably be up to thousands of devices after a year
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:40] **nemo2> i have 3750 ish devices loaded
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:50] **nemo2> 1 main machine
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:55] **nemo2> and 1 dedicated collector
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:58] **raw> we're going to potentially be taking over some clients from this other company too
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:01] **raw> and these are big companies
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:19] **raw> a bank, and insurance company, a chain of retail stores
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:35] **nemo2> yeh i work for a global company
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:39] **raw> but we need to get the systems all tweaked and good to go with some smaller clients
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:46] **nemo2> we got the same setup in aus / pacific / usa
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:48] **nemo2> i am doing europe
[26-Jan-2009 12:23:18] **nemo2> right now i spend my time making scripts for things that zenoss doesnt do
[26-Jan-2009 12:23:37] **nemo2> like when a machines dns changes , zenoss just gives a ping down for that device
[26-Jan-2009 12:23:48] **nemo2> i wrote a script to reset ips daily
[26-Jan-2009 12:26:34] **C_Kode> ApacheMonitor issue: We have mod_rewrite on that re-writes any http request as https. This seems to highjack AacheMonitor's server-status check since it's internal and doesn't resolve to the domain listed on the SSL cert. Anyone know a way around this issue?
[26-Jan-2009 12:27:09] **C_Kode> Well, without setting up an interal DNS server just to resolve properly.
[26-Jan-2009 12:58:05] **raw> cool
[26-Jan-2009 13:16:19] **raw> gemineye: I emailed you the link to that guide
[26-Jan-2009 13:21:59] **nemo2> C_Kode, cant you adjust your mod_rewrite rule to leave server status requests alone
[26-Jan-2009 13:22:09] **nemo2> that would be simpler than trying to make a solution
[26-Jan-2009 13:22:32] **C_Kode> Hmm. Maybe.
[26-Jan-2009 13:29:16] **nemo2> raw
[26-Jan-2009 13:29:44] **nemo2> are you using 32bit or 64bit system? just reading your notes now.
[26-Jan-2009 13:36:48] **gemineye> Is there a quick and easy way to stop monitoring all devices but keep zenoss up and running to view the data?
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:27] **nemo2> yeh set your zproperties on /devices
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:35] **nemo2> to ZsnmpMonitorIgnore : yes, etc
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:41] **nemo2> same for ping,
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:54] **nemo2> and make sure there are no collectors set on /device class
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:08] **gemineye> But there's not just one switch we can flip that does it. We have to make the change in several places right?
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:11] **nemo2> also make sure zendisc isnt configured to discover
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:20] **nemo2> not that i know of gemineye
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:40] **nemo2> you could vi `which zenoss`
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:47] **nemo2> and edit which daemons start
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:01] **raw> nemo2: 64bit, doesn't seem to matter
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:03] **nemo2> as zenoss user ( everything as zenoss user )
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:13] **nemo2> right raw, just wondering
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:23] **nemo2> i am running 64bit and also seen a few
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:24] * raw nods
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:41] **nemo2> sorry i see truncated to 32bits allot
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:42] **raw> yeh, I don't think it actually relates to the type of processor, it's something else, no idea what causes it
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:45] **nemo2> or used to with 2.2.3
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[27-Jan-2009 07:36:46] **C_Kode> ApacheMonitor: I have two Apache servers. Both are currently pretty much idle except for the load balancer service checks. Once says it's getting .05 requests per second. The other one says 450 M requests per second?!?!? Something is out of wack, is there a way to clear this up?
[27-Jan-2009 08:21:46] **monrad> is it normal to keep getting zenmodel and zenhub keepalive errors
[27-Jan-2009 08:22:17] **C_Kode> eh?
[27-Jan-2009 08:24:43] **monrad> i think its when zenhub does its ping tree calculations
[27-Jan-2009 08:25:32] **C_Kode> That causes Apache Requests to be 450M requests per second?
[27-Jan-2009 08:25:52] **monrad> ah no my problem
[27-Jan-2009 08:25:57] **C_Kode> ah.
[27-Jan-2009 09:54:06] **dranch> hey Nemo.. any luck?
[27-Jan-2009 09:56:50] **C_Kode> I'm trying to run ZenJMX zenpack and I'm getting the following error:
[27-Jan-2009 09:56:51] **C_Kode> [ERROR] [btpool0-7] org.apache.xmlrpc.server.XmlRpcStreamServer:188 - execute: Error while performing request
[27-Jan-2009 09:56:51] **C_Kode> org.apache.xmlrpc.XmlRpcException: Failed to invoke method collect in class com.zenoss.zenpacks.zenjmx.ZenJmxService: method java.lang.String.format with signature (Ljava.lang.String;[Ljava.lang.Object;)Ljava.lang.String; was not found.
[27-Jan-2009 09:57:16] **C_Kode> Any ideas what exactly that means?
[27-Jan-2009 10:23:46] **Rooster> Anyone available for a quick question?
[27-Jan-2009 10:24:09] **dranch> what's up?
[27-Jan-2009 10:24:18] **C_Kode> ls
[27-Jan-2009 10:25:11] **Rooster> I've got a question in regards to getting Zenoss running. I am using the VMware appliance on Windows Server 2003 and I just don't have a whole lot of experience with Linux
[27-Jan-2009 10:25:20] **Rooster> I log in as root, and it stays at the command line
[27-Jan-2009 10:25:35] **Rooster> startx, gnome&, ked&, etc don't launch a gui for me
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:04] **Rooster> in other words, I can't get a gui
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:08] **dranch> Do you want to connect to the Zenoss web console wthin in the VM?
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:44] **dranch> Zenoss is a web interface. If the VM has an IP, just connect to it via something like http://192.168.1.2
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:44] **Rooster> yeah, I plan on managing it and running it within VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:58] **dranch> You should manage it via a web browser OUTSIDE the VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:10] **Rooster> currently, the server is not on the network, we don't have a current testbed for it and don't want to put it on the corporate network
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:15] **dranch> to get the IP in the VM, run /sbin/ifconfig from the CLI shell
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:40] **Rooster> but ok, I can set one up
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:53] **dranch> I doubt the Zenoss would have all the Xwindows bagage. You can connect a local web browser on the same machine to the VM.. just not WITHIN the VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:15] **Rooster> ok
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:21] **Rooster> thanks for the help
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:34] **dranch> It is possible that the Zenoss VM is configured for NAT so you might need to do some vmware tricks to get external access into the VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:47] **Rooster> ok
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:57] **dranch> I'd look at the Zenoss wiki, etc. for FAQs, etc.
[27-Jan-2009 10:29:31] **dranch> good luck and cya
[27-Jan-2009 11:17:43] **C_Kode> Anyone use ZenJMX zenpack?
[27-Jan-2009 12:20:57] **gemineye> raw: I got all but 32 mibs to load. Most of the failed ones were due to segmentation faults.
[27-Jan-2009 12:50:38] **ke4qqq> hey guys, i am having an interesting problem. Zenoss isn't sending out email alerts - I used to receive several a day, but now they aren't notified. I can use the test email link and it sends a message out, but no real alerts. Thoughts on where I should look
[27-Jan-2009 12:51:41] **C_Kode> Any errors in maillog
[27-Jan-2009 12:53:25] **ke4qqq> C_Kode: nope
[27-Jan-2009 12:53:43] **C_Kode> Any listing in maillog for the actual email itself?
[27-Jan-2009 12:54:44] **C_Kode> Check your Zenoss logs directory. Should be something like /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/log
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:01] **ke4qqq> actually, even the test messages don't appear to be in maillog
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:28] **C_Kode> Are you looking at a local maillog? If so, are you sending off a remote SMTP server?
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:38] **ke4qqq> yes and yes
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:52] **C_Kode> Then go look at the maillog on the remote smtp server
[27-Jan-2009 13:52:26] **ke4qqq> C_Kode: I see the test messages in the remote smtp servers logs, but no alerts
[27-Jan-2009 13:53:10] **C_Kode> Go look at the zenoss logs that are usually located at /usr/local/zenoss/zenloss/log Look for errors
[27-Jan-2009 13:57:00] **C_Kode> What does the gray bubble mean? Red crit, orange warning, green good, what is gray?
[27-Jan-2009 13:58:55] **ke4qqq> C_Kode: http://fpaste.org/paste/2363
[27-Jan-2009 13:59:02] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #2363 (at fpaste.org)
[27-Jan-2009 13:59:03] **ke4qqq> gray is debug iirc - blue is info
[27-Jan-2009 13:59:53] **C_Kode> ke4qqq: That looks like your MySQL has a lock on and it's not letting go of it.
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:15] **C_Kode> Zenoss is waiting for it to unlock, but it's timeout expires before it does
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:20] **C_Kode> so it fails
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:37] **C_Kode> tables lock or something like that
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:49] **C_Kode> Restarting MySQL might help
[27-Jan-2009 14:01:59] **C_Kode> I have gray bubbles, but when I click on them I have no events.
[27-Jan-2009 14:05:26] **ke4qqq> look in the top row where reset lists - it has the minimum level of events you see
[27-Jan-2009 14:12:21] **C_Kode> Hmm. ok, I think it's whining because there is no memory or diskarrays at the location it's looking for.
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[28-Jan-2009 11:53:36] **CamargoBP> I'm getting some interesting zenmodeler errors. Here is one [They all give the known_hosts_tmp error]: The command netstat -rn returned stderr data (1) from the device: cannot stat `/root/.ssh/known_hosts_tmp'
[28-Jan-2009 11:53:47] **CamargoBP> Anyone have an idea what might be causing that?
[28-Jan-2009 11:55:16] **CamargoBP> All 9 errors return: cannot stat `/root/.ssh/known_hosts_tmp'
[28-Jan-2009 11:55:37] **djmitche> CamargoBP: is there a permissions problem in /root?
[28-Jan-2009 11:55:53] **CamargoBP> Let me check
[28-Jan-2009 11:56:41] **CamargoBP> No, and that file doesn't exist... I don't know why that file would exist to tell you the truth
[28-Jan-2009 11:56:59] **CamargoBP> I've never known to have a known_hosts_tmp file
[28-Jan-2009 11:57:38] **djmitche> it's probably created by SSH while editing the known_hosts file
[28-Jan-2009 11:57:52] **djmitche> but the "cannot stat" suggests that it really cannot create the file
[28-Jan-2009 11:58:52] **CamargoBP> found it!
[28-Jan-2009 11:59:13] **djmitche> ?
[28-Jan-2009 12:00:05] **CamargoBP> someone put a command in .bashrc that trys to create that file.
[28-Jan-2009 12:00:50] **djmitche> wacky
[28-Jan-2009 12:01:06] **CamargoBP> Yup that fixed it
[28-Jan-2009 12:01:17] **CamargoBP> djmitche: Your the man!
[28-Jan-2009 12:01:57] **djmitche> haha
[28-Jan-2009 12:04:05] **CamargoBP> Well upgrading wasn't so bad, just that one error and it wasn't zenoss's fault. Ahhh, that was nice.
[28-Jan-2009 13:59:27] **mloven> hmmm, shouldn't the topic be: "Zenoss is Open Source Enterprise Network Monitoring"?
[28-Jan-2009 13:59:56] **magnachef> well, it has a CMDB, so it's doing inventory and what not
[28-Jan-2009 14:01:49] **mloven> kind of a loose loophole, but ok..
[28-Jan-2009 14:02:49] **magnachef> Network Management is a very broad area, as opposed to just monitoring...I'm assuming that's the angle they want to go with - but I have no idea
[28-Jan-2009 14:04:10] **mloven> ahh, I thought (and hoped) they might have thrown that topic up just to hint about some new features..
[28-Jan-2009 14:14:30] **C_Kode> Create your own features!
[28-Jan-2009 14:51:52] **djmitche> I think "network management" is broad enough to qualify as a "solution"
[28-Jan-2009 14:51:55] **raw> gemineye: you around?
[28-Jan-2009 14:52:11] **djmitche> it might even have some breadth left over for synergizing
[28-Jan-2009 14:52:18] **djmitche> or leveraging, if you're into that kind of thing
[28-Jan-2009 14:57:16] **raw> does anyone here have experience with setting up distributed collectors with Zenoss core?
[28-Jan-2009 16:39:26] **CamargoBP> Has anyone got the LDAP group to Zope role mappings to work with Zenoss?
[28-Jan-2009 16:40:08] **CamargoBP> It maps just fine, but Zenoss seems to only look at the "Default User Roles"
[28-Jan-2009 16:42:21] **mloven> raw: we do a distributed collector setup with enterprise... not sure how much of a difference there would be..
[28-Jan-2009 17:08:47] **CamargoBP> So I added a device under ping and set the ip address to one that would not ping. However it says it is up. Then I restart Zenoss and immediately I get an alert saying it's down, so I change the IP to one that pings however the event count keeps incrementing. Any thoughts.
[28-Jan-2009 17:09:20] **CamargoBP> Oh and it keeps saying it's down not up.
[28-Jan-2009 17:19:09] **CamargoBP> Is it caching the value?
[28-Jan-2009 17:19:17] **CamargoBP> Can I clear that cache somewhere?
[28-Jan-2009 17:24:47] **CamargoBP> Dang and I thought this upgrade was going to go well.
[28-Jan-2009 17:25:08] **nemo2> CamargoBP, i didnt have it working in 2.2.3 ( group, although i use ldap for everything )
[28-Jan-2009 17:25:14] **nemo2> didnt test yet in 2.3.2
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:12] **nemo2> CamargoBP, re the IP , stop zenoss, do a find /opt/zenoss -iregex .*\.pckle$ and same for .zec files
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:14] **CamargoBP> I've change IP's on existing devices to IP's that won't ping and well zenoss still says it's up. Even if I click on Run Command ping and it doesn't ping, it still gives a green
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:19] **nemo2> start zenoss again
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:37] **CamargoBP> I'll do that, I've done it in one directory.
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:46] **CamargoBP> but not the whole zenoss directory
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:08] **nemo2> i just said /opt/zenoss because i cant remember exacts
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:14] **CamargoBP>
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:20] **nemo2> oh , and i kill off straggling processes that didnt die also
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:31] **nemo2> kill -9 pid
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:46] **nemo2> before starting again
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:55] **nemo2> just put it in a script
[28-Jan-2009 17:28:54] **CamargoBP> Yeah I just did that.
[28-Jan-2009 17:29:13] **CamargoBP> Here are the commands I ran: find /opt/zenoss/ -name *.pickle -exec rm -f {} \; find /opt/zenoss/ -name *.zec -exec rm -f {} \;
[28-Jan-2009 17:29:24] **CamargoBP> and there were no stray zenoss process
[28-Jan-2009 17:29:42] **nemo2> ok, whats the result and what version do you run
[28-Jan-2009 17:30:23] **CamargoBP> Still a no go. 2..3.2
[28-Jan-2009 17:30:29] **CamargoBP> 2.3.2
[28-Jan-2009 17:30:39] **nemo2> and you know for certain the ip didnt change or something
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:17] **nemo2> sorry just read the history
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:25] **CamargoBP> So I changed it from a pinging IP to a non pinging IP. It still says its up
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:31] **CamargoBP> That's fine
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:56] **nemo2> check the zproperties for the class and device itself
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:10] **nemo2> make sure zpingignore != yes / true whatever
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:32] **nemo2> tail zenhub.log as well, see if you can look at the event details
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:46] **nemo2> configure zenhub to have log severity 10
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:55] **CamargoBP> zPingMonitorIgnore = false
[28-Jan-2009 17:33:20] **nemo2> on both class and device
[28-Jan-2009 17:33:27] **CamargoBP> Yes sir.
[28-Jan-2009 17:33:41] **nemo2> ok , id check your zenping.log too btw
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:05] **nemo2> perhaps its a dns issue
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:17] **CamargoBP> I'm using raw ip
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:23] **nemo2> the device has a name and a manage ip, i am not sure what happens when they dont match
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:31] **nemo2> oh i see, i never tried it that way ..
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:50] **nemo2> id still look in zenping log ( up the severity for zenping too )
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:59] **CamargoBP> This has worked for 4 months on the last version that I was on.
[28-Jan-2009 17:35:17] **CamargoBP> Where do I up the severity?
[28-Jan-2009 17:35:46] **nemo2> $ZEN_HOME/etc/zenping.conf ( or similar )
[28-Jan-2009 17:36:22] **nemo2> i got an idea
[28-Jan-2009 17:36:37] **nemo2> when you goto the OS tab . what do you see in the interfaces
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:29] **CamargoBP> eth0 10.3.1.35/16
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:29] **CamargoBP> 10.3.0.0 00:0C:29:78:26:54
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:43] **nemo2> and thats right or wrong
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:50] **CamargoBP> Right
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:57] **nemo2> and no other interfaces listed
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:10] **CamargoBP> lo 127.0.0.1/8
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:16] **nemo2> yeh ok
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:18] **CamargoBP> That's it
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:25] **nemo2> thats quite a puzzle !
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:30] **CamargoBP> Yeah...
[28-Jan-2009 17:39:41] **CamargoBP> Good thing I backed everything up, I can at least roll back tonight
[28-Jan-2009 17:40:04] **CamargoBP> Still that's the only hitch that I've run into
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:22] **nemo2> i am sure it can be sorted
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:38] **nemo2> nothing in those logs ?
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:52] **nemo2> id grep $ZEN_HOME/log/* for your ip to start
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:55] **nemo2> see whats in there
[28-Jan-2009 17:51:24] **CamargoBP> Interesting. The new IP (That is not pingable) does not show up in any logs.
[28-Jan-2009 17:51:39] **CamargoBP> Yet the old one that is shows up in logs
[28-Jan-2009 17:53:18] **CamargoBP> oh wait, nevermind lol the one that pings and shows up in the logs is my computer...It shows the POST http session
[28-Jan-2009 17:53:33] **CamargoBP> So both IP's don't show up in the logs
[28-Jan-2009 17:54:10] **CamargoBP> but I do find the one that doesn't ping in this file: /opt/zenoss/etc/zeo.zdsock: No such device or address
[28-Jan-2009 17:55:07] **CamargoBP> Maybe not
[28-Jan-2009 17:55:19] **CamargoBP> It's just saying that it can't be searched
[28-Jan-2009 17:55:47] **CamargoBP> Argh.
[28-Jan-2009 18:01:16] **CamargoBP> zenping status
[28-Jan-2009 18:01:16] **CamargoBP> not running
[28-Jan-2009 18:20:09] **CamargoBP> zenping wont start same with zensyslog and zenmodeler
[28-Jan-2009 18:20:24] **CamargoBP> I mean zentrap not zenmodeler
[28-Jan-2009 18:23:43] **nemo2> aha
[28-Jan-2009 18:24:20] **nemo2> try zenping run -v10 ( as zenoss, as always )
[28-Jan-2009 18:24:40] **nemo2> oh zentrap - that doesnt matter for the ping
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:04] **nemo2> interesting lack of new ip the logs tho
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:20] **nemo2> there is a way of rebuilding / reindexing the zeo db
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:23] **nemo2> that might fix it
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:51] **nemo2> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch06s01.html
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:06] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:15] **nemo2> Or check/repair relationships on all devices:
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:16] **nemo2> >>> for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices():
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:16] **nemo2> ... d.checkRelations(repair=True)
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[29-Jan-2009 10:18:40] **dranch> Hey Nemo?
[29-Jan-2009 10:19:23] **nemo_> hey
[29-Jan-2009 10:19:48] **dranch> Any luck on the maint. window?
[29-Jan-2009 10:19:58] **nemo_> you didnt read your email ?
[29-Jan-2009 10:20:22] **nemo_> no luck. unless i misunderstand the way maint windows work
[29-Jan-2009 10:20:27] **dranch> heh.. I was flatted yesterday with fires. Ok... I'll read it in a bit
[29-Jan-2009 10:21:09] **dranch> Ok.. I'll create a thread on the Zenoss forum and see where that goes. I'll send you a link to it in a reply email
[29-Jan-2009 10:21:38] **nemo_> kool tx
[29-Jan-2009 10:22:58] **dranch> ok.. ttyl
[29-Jan-2009 10:28:58] **raw> is there no way to get verbose output when installing a zenpack?
[29-Jan-2009 10:29:18] **raw> I've got this 4meg zenpack that I made, and when I go to install it it just sits there like it's doing nothing
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[29-Jan-2009 10:50:54] **nemo_> zenpack --help raw
[29-Jan-2009 12:17:32] **raw> nemo2: I already did that, I don't see an option for it, was wondering if there's some special option that's not mentioned in there
[29-Jan-2009 12:17:47] **raw> nemo_: rather
[29-Jan-2009 12:19:23] **nemo2> -v is for verbosity
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[29-Jan-2009 13:43:23] **raw> but that particular python script doesn't support that as a flag
[29-Jan-2009 13:43:32] **raw> I'll have to try --debug or something
[29-Jan-2009 13:46:16] **CamargoBP> So I started all over, from 2.2.3 (backup) upgraded to 2.2.4 then to 2.3.2. Everything seems to work fine, the daemons all are running and I can create a device called testping I put it in the /Ping class and set the IP to an address that doesn't ping. I get a notification just fine and it says host is down. I change the IP address to the proper IP that does ping and it will not clear the host is down. I can even select the "Run Commands: ping" and t
[29-Jan-2009 13:47:21] **CamargoBP> As I post this, the event cleared itself.
[29-Jan-2009 13:47:28] **nemo2> lol
[29-Jan-2009 13:47:55] **CamargoBP> Usually in the past it clears after 10 seconds or so of changing the IP address. This took about 5 minutes.
[29-Jan-2009 13:48:14] **CamargoBP> Now if I can solve that.
[29-Jan-2009 13:48:16] **CamargoBP>
[29-Jan-2009 13:49:26] **CamargoBP> Okay so now I changed it back to a bad IP. Let's see how long the alert takes...
[29-Jan-2009 13:50:42] **CamargoBP> Ahhh ha! I looked at the event list and it took exactly to the second 5 minutes to change. There must be a setting somwhere
[29-Jan-2009 13:55:27] **klinstifen> afternoon all
[29-Jan-2009 13:56:04] **klinstifen> does anyone know if there is a "how to create" guide for zenpacks in egg format
[29-Jan-2009 13:56:14] **klinstifen> the only one i found is for zip
[29-Jan-2009 13:59:45] **CamargoBP> klinstifen: I don't sorry
[29-Jan-2009 14:01:12] **CamargoBP> So it looks like it takes 300 seconds (5 minutes) for the collector to try and ping. That's way to long for our needs. It didn't do this in our 2.2.3 setup. Any suggestions on what settings to check?
[29-Jan-2009 14:09:31] **CamargoBP> Yup even though the collector settings are set for 10 seconds, it still is pegged to 300 seconds between checking to see if a host is alive or dead. Could this be a bugg!
[29-Jan-2009 14:11:30] **daMaestro> does anyone know how to suppress/change severity for zenpack command events that timeout?
[29-Jan-2009 14:12:14] **daMaestro> specifically, we are using the mysql zenpack ... and when the poll command times out it sends an error event, which sends emails overnight (only to recover the next poll cycle and send another email)
[29-Jan-2009 14:25:49] **daMaestro> i went ahead and just adjusted the email delay to be greater then the polling frequency of the zenpack
[29-Jan-2009 14:25:52] **daMaestro> bbl
[29-Jan-2009 14:55:08] **C_Kode> On the network map page, how do you get it to default to a different network (not the 192.169.1.0/24 it defaults too
[29-Jan-2009 14:58:50] **klinstifen> anyone know how to remove a zenpack when it says "the pack is missing or broken"
[29-Jan-2009 14:59:00] **klinstifen> I can't remove it because it throws an error
[29-Jan-2009 15:00:23] **klinstifen> it seems as though the pointer remains
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:04] **C_Kode> From the web interface or the command line? Or both
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:25] **klinstifen> i have tried to remove it from both
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:28] **klinstifen> and i get an error either way
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:44] **klinstifen> i tried to recreate it with the same name but it said one already existed with that name
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:24] **C_Kode> rm -rf /
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:27] **C_Kode> hah just kidding!
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:41] **klinstifen> yuck yuck yuck
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:47] **klinstifen> knee slapper
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:54] **klinstifen> but seriously...
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:57] **klinstifen> any ideas?
[29-Jan-2009 15:04:10] **C_Kode> I'm new to Zenoss. I'm still learning myself.
[29-Jan-2009 15:05:40] **klinstifen> hrmm
[29-Jan-2009 15:20:13] **mloven> klinstifen: I thought there was a --force option for zenpack...?
[29-Jan-2009 15:20:21] **klinstifen> *looks*
[29-Jan-2009 15:21:05] **klinstifen> it's not within the help command...don't think so : \
[29-Jan-2009 16:35:33] **CamargoBP> Okay ready for this... So I looked at the zenping log and pings are working... It's just the events that only post every 5 minutes.
[29-Jan-2009 16:39:14] **CamargoBP> Well I looked at all the logs and it looks as if everything seems to be doing it's thing at the times I specified in the performance collector configurations.
[29-Jan-2009 16:39:42] **CamargoBP> I wonder why it takes literally exactly 300 seconds to send an alert up/down
[29-Jan-2009 16:42:37] **CamargoBP> Does anyone understand how an event is posted?
[29-Jan-2009 16:46:12] **CamargoBP> Never mind, I got it to work,
[29-Jan-2009 19:12:23] **pat2man> so i ran a zenbackup on one server and then a zenrestore on another, and it seems to be freaking out because some zenpacks were not installed on the new server
[29-Jan-2009 19:12:33] **pat2man> is there a way to run zenbackup that copies any extra zenpacks?
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[30-Jan-2009 03:36:05] **nemo_> mornink
[30-Jan-2009 03:36:52] **nemo_> pat2man, install the zenoss rpms ( core-zenpacks ) to get the zenpacks
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:19] **raw> anyone know what would cause this?
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> root@Base-Image:~# /etc/init.d/zenoss-stack start
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> nohup: redirecting stderr to stdout
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> Starting mysqld.bin daemon with databases from /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/data
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> STOPPING server from pid file /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/data/Base-Image.pid
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> 090130 07:38:03 mysqld ended
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:27] **raw> /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/scripts/ctl.sh : mysql could not be started
[30-Jan-2009 06:44:18] **raw> ah, it's some InnoDB error
[30-Jan-2009 06:46:07] **raw> fixed it, permissions issue
[30-Jan-2009 06:49:53] **raw> I installed a zenpack that I made which contained Mibs and Transforms. The Mibs and Transforms installed in to Zenoss fine but Zenoss reported that the ZenPack install failed. Now when I click on the ZenPacks tab in Settings it just hangs and doesn't load the page
[30-Jan-2009 06:50:18] **raw> ah it loaded, just took forever
[30-Jan-2009 06:54:26] **raw> Now zenping, zentrap, and zensyslog are all refusing to start
[30-Jan-2009 06:54:30] **raw> this is unreal
[30-Jan-2009 07:03:12] **nemo_> did you upgrade?
[30-Jan-2009 07:05:52] **raw> nope, I just messed up the permissions yesterday
[30-Jan-2009 07:06:01] **raw> now I'm trying to figure out what needs what permissions
[30-Jan-2009 07:06:44] **raw> don't suppose there's a list of chown and chmod settings for Zenoss?
[30-Jan-2009 07:18:41] **raw> finally fixed
[30-Jan-2009 07:27:18] **klinstifen> Morning all
[30-Jan-2009 07:27:34] **klinstifen> anyone had experience removing a broken zenpack from the list of installed zenpacks?
[30-Jan-2009 07:40:53] **raw> klinstifen: usually I just restart Zenoss and it comes back up with the ZenPack not marked as broken
[30-Jan-2009 07:41:18] **klinstifen> i had only been restarting zopectl
[30-Jan-2009 07:41:21] **klinstifen> i will try the whole thing
[30-Jan-2009 07:41:55] **raw> or you should be able to do /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenpack --list
[30-Jan-2009 07:42:11] **raw> then /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenpack --remove=PACKAGENAME
[30-Jan-2009 07:42:16] **raw> from commandline
[30-Jan-2009 07:42:48] **raw> make sure you do it as the zenoss user
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:00] **raw> type "su zenoss" as root before doing that
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:10] **nemo_> just do everything as zenoss
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:18] **nemo_> i do su - zenoss
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:36] **nemo_> not sure if there is a difference
[30-Jan-2009 07:44:44] **klinstifen> raw, i did that
[30-Jan-2009 07:44:49] **klinstifen> i get an error when trying to remove it
[30-Jan-2009 07:44:54] **raw> what error?
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:01] **nemo_> i just tried with and without the - and counted the lines returned by env, there is a difference !
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:20] **raw> nemo_: - just assumes more of that user's environment settings
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:36] **nemo_> yup
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:49] **raw> it's the same as the difference between doing sudo su and sudo su -
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:52] **klinstifen> raw, ZenPack object has no attribute '__of__'
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:07] **raw> that's the whole error?
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:20] **nemo_> pastebin!
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:32] **klinstifen> naw
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:37] **klinstifen> hold
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:40] **raw> pastebin..com
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:47] **raw> pastebin.com rather
[30-Jan-2009 07:47:29] **klinstifen> my ssh session is acting up
[30-Jan-2009 07:47:34] **klinstifen> one sec
[30-Jan-2009 07:50:06] **raw> k
[30-Jan-2009 07:55:23] **klinstifen> ok I am back
[30-Jan-2009 07:56:52] **klinstifen> http://pastebin.com/d4999da60
[30-Jan-2009 07:56:59] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:05] **raw> hmmm
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:14] **raw> have you tried restarting Zenoss since you got that message?
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:29] **klinstifen> yes
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:59] **raw> well, if the zenpack script can't remove the zenpack and restarting Zenoss doesn't clear it, I don't really know what to say
[30-Jan-2009 07:59:48] **klinstifen> yeah it's a pain
[30-Jan-2009 07:59:56] **klinstifen> i was wondering if where else it could be linked
[30-Jan-2009 08:00:03] **klinstifen> perhaps somewhere in zope?
[30-Jan-2009 08:00:06] **klinstifen> i dunno
[30-Jan-2009 08:05:55] **klinstifen> *sigh* bigger problems. now a bunch of zenoss components aren't starting/don't stay up
[30-Jan-2009 08:06:29] **klinstifen> well the box had been up for 77 days
[30-Jan-2009 08:06:48] **klinstifen> that's a long time for me...previous zenoss installs would only stay running for about 3 weeks before they would hang
[30-Jan-2009 08:06:53] **klinstifen> and require a cold reboot
[30-Jan-2009 08:19:01] **raw> that unstable eh?
[30-Jan-2009 08:22:56] **nemo_> well .. can you justify a reboot.
[30-Jan-2009 08:23:06] **nemo_> what happened
[30-Jan-2009 08:30:01] **raw> Zenoss does have a tendency to get hung up sometimes, but it's usually just a matter of tweaking the configuration
[30-Jan-2009 08:38:10] **raw> TGIF!
[30-Jan-2009 09:52:07] **CamargoBP> Amén to that raw!
[30-Jan-2009 09:52:55] **CamargoBP> Well good news, last night I was able to get the 5 minute notification thing solved. Ahhhh...
[30-Jan-2009 10:20:46] **klinstifen> anyone in here know how to remove a broken zenpack
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:14] **teletype> from command line
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:15] **klinstifen> it's preventing some of my daemons from launching
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:23] **klinstifen> so this went from annoying to important
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:30] **teletype> zenpack --list, get the name, and zenpack --remove=packname
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:32] **klinstifen> tele, anyway
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:40] **klinstifen> yeah i tried that and get an error
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:43] **teletype> doh
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:33] **perr0> have you tried from the settings menu?
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:48] **perr0> klinstifen: settings/zenpacks
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:48] **klinstifen> zencommand, proc, win, eventlog, ping, and status
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:52] **klinstifen> all wont start
[30-Jan-2009 10:23:16] **klinstifen> they have the same error i receive when i try to remove the pack
[30-Jan-2009 10:23:28] **perr0> what is the error
[30-Jan-2009 10:23:40] **klinstifen> perr0, there is no check box next to the broken zenpack to remove it
[30-Jan-2009 10:24:10] **perr0> can you press the select all and reinstall of them ?
[30-Jan-2009 10:24:23] **klinstifen> http://pastebin.com/m7007b51f
[30-Jan-2009 10:24:30] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[30-Jan-2009 10:25:04] **klinstifen> err i really don't want to do that
[30-Jan-2009 10:51:53] **klinstifen> Ok found a forum posting that may lead me to a solution
[30-Jan-2009 10:52:01] **klinstifen> but...does anyone know how to delete a datasource?
[30-Jan-2009 11:05:22] **perr0> I was looking for it for you too and got tide up.
[30-Jan-2009 11:05:33] **perr0> klinstifen: post the link so we know for future
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:01] **klinstifen> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=20371#20371
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:15] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - VM Appliance 2.2 - ZenPack upgrade issue (at forums.zenoss.com)
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:17] **klinstifen> only problem i have is that I dont have the original zenpack
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:20] **klinstifen> so i can't just reinstall it
[30-Jan-2009 11:07:09] **perr0> what is the zepack called
[30-Jan-2009 11:07:38] **perr0> n
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:20] **klinstifen> its one i created
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:30] **klinstifen> and was testing
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:34] **klinstifen> it didn't work
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:36] **klinstifen> so i removed it
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:41] **klinstifen> and then deleted the egg
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:49] **klinstifen> and then that's when i noticed that it didnt remove correctly
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:50] **perr0> got it too bad all that hard work
[30-Jan-2009 11:09:11] **klinstifen> then when i rebooted the box all the daemons quit on me
[30-Jan-2009 11:09:22] **klinstifen> at least before the root zenoss was working
[30-Jan-2009 11:14:15] **klinstifen> *before the reboot
[30-Jan-2009 12:19:57] **klinstifen> man this is annoying
[30-Jan-2009 12:44:47] **klinstifen> I can't even remove existing working zenpacks
[30-Jan-2009 12:44:53] **klinstifen> there id def something messed up
[30-Jan-2009 12:45:07] **klinstifen> anyone know of a way to clear things using the zendmd command line
[30-Jan-2009 12:45:12] **klinstifen> or know of a guide online?
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[30-Jan-2009 14:30:46] **raw> ok, when I check some HP switches that we are monitoring, the Model shows up as 1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.3.7.11.45 yet we have the hpSwitchJ4900B Mib installed which is the matching Mib for that OID. Why is the snmp OID not being translated by the Mib?
[30-Jan-2009 14:52:17] **raw> I created a products entry for it using the OID as the Product Key and it still doesn't show up
[30-Jan-2009 14:52:20] **raw> what am I doing wrong?
[30-Jan-2009 15:20:04] **raw> now I have one device picking up what type it is automatically based on the OID since I moved the Products entry that it automatically created under Unknown and moved it under HP then renamed it, but another device that is the exact same model is showing absolutely nothing under the make/model info now.
[30-Jan-2009 15:20:14] **raw> it's not even showing the OID value anymore which it did before
[30-Jan-2009 15:50:20] **raw> I have come to the conclusion that Zenoss' auto make/model detection blows. It only works for the first device and only if you take the Product item that's auto created under Unknown and move it to the appropriate manufacturer then rename it
[30-Jan-2009 15:50:43] **raw> but if another device with the exact same make/model gets added/modeled it creates a brand new entry with the same OID value under Unknown
[30-Jan-2009 15:51:12] **raw> Either that, or it just refuses to display the make/model info and leaves it blank
[30-Jan-2009 15:51:15] **raw> just wow
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[01-Jan-2009 11:23:37] **iam3inone> anybody know how to average CPU data collected by zenoss of multiprocessor systems
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[02-Jan-2009 15:39:09] **jsm> weird issue... zenoss isn't sending email alerts... the "test" button works on my zenoss users to send a test message, my Alerting Rules are enabled, but no messages are going through when there is actually a real Critical Event
[02-Jan-2009 15:39:51] **magnachef> is it sending to a proper group of people with valid emails?
[02-Jan-2009 15:40:12] **magnachef> or are critical's for that device group being sent to just you?
[02-Jan-2009 16:20:09] **rhett_> i had that problem but i never really figured out what it was
[02-Jan-2009 16:20:28] **rhett_> test messages would go through but nothing else. i enabled local smtp and then it was fine
[02-Jan-2009 16:34:32] **jsm> after bouncing zenoss it seemed to fix itself
[02-Jan-2009 16:34:33] **jsm> weird
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[03-Jan-2009 17:40:19] **Gecko> Anyone awake? I can't find a function in zendmd to manipulate the Device Class. I found a Get for it, but no Set
[03-Jan-2009 17:42:42] **Gecko> moveDevice that corresponds to the webui doesn't do that unfortunately
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[04-Jan-2009 20:46:55] **sergeymasushko> Hello
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[05-Jan-2009 03:01:12] **Gecko> Any zendmd experts around?
[05-Jan-2009 03:02:45] **Gecko> My question is, if it is possible to fetch the state of a device that hasn't got snmp enabled, from zendmd
[05-Jan-2009 03:16:44] **Gecko> pingStatus() returns 2 no matter if the device is actually up or not
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[05-Jan-2009 03:58:12] **Gecko> nevermind... getStatus()...
[05-Jan-2009 09:31:19] **Gecko> Hmm, what am I doing wrong? I can't get regexp in processes to work even though they are supposed to be regexp... I'm trying to get zenoss to monitor my asterisk process, and it does, if I set the process regexp to asterisk, but that matches some processes that shouldn't be monitored, but ^asterisk doesn't match any processes it says
[05-Jan-2009 09:58:03] **Cosmin> anybody monitoring multiple websites on same ip adress?
[05-Jan-2009 11:46:50] **Cosmin> anybody monitoring multiple websites on same ip adress?
[05-Jan-2009 11:52:52] **rhett> not i
[05-Jan-2009 12:29:20] **nonsenso> i am.
[05-Jan-2009 14:54:23] **Cosmin> nonsenso how?
[05-Jan-2009 14:55:00] **Cosmin> i guess im doing something wrong
[05-Jan-2009 14:55:29] **Cosmin> when i try to add a new website and it detects that it has the same ip it skips it
[05-Jan-2009 15:44:11] **blepsoaf> hello all, I'm not sure if this room is opposed to questions, but I will ask to see if I get away with it! Does anyone know what "BadRequest: The id "id" is invalid - it is already in use" means when importing a mib? I'm not sure what "id" is to attempt to fix the issue.
[05-Jan-2009 16:17:31] **nonsenso> Cosmin: i had the same problem. in my case i wanted specific things graphed.. i had to make templates for each site and bind them to the device
[05-Jan-2009 16:17:34] **nonsenso> kinda lame, imo.
[05-Jan-2009 16:25:40] **Cosmin> yes but what if the same devices hosts multiple websites?
[05-Jan-2009 16:25:45] **Cosmin> like vhosts
[05-Jan-2009 16:25:53] **Cosmin> how can i check all the vhosts
[05-Jan-2009 18:01:04] **nonsenso> Cosmin: just that way i said. i had to write performance templates for each vhost
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[06-Jan-2009 04:51:01] **Gecko> Anyone there?
[06-Jan-2009 11:12:12] **mrayzenoss> Zenoss developers will be here Thursday 11am EST
[06-Jan-2009 11:12:30] **mrayzenoss> oops
[06-Jan-2009 11:12:37] **sergeymasushko>
[06-Jan-2009 11:13:24] **sn1ffer72> anyone have an idea to populate the component field for performance reports?
[06-Jan-2009 11:13:42] **sn1ffer72> such that it matches the groups field?
[06-Jan-2009 11:15:26] **mrayzenoss> sn1ffer72: You may want to look at this: http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/creating-methods-for-custom-reports
[06-Jan-2009 11:15:34] **adytum-bot> Title: Creating Methods for Custom Reports - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:03] **Cosmin> yes
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:04] **Cosmin>
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:23] **Cosmin> mrayzenoss happy new year
[06-Jan-2009 11:16:29] **mrayzenoss> thanks!
[06-Jan-2009 11:18:30] **sn1ffer72> mrayzenoss: thanks!
[06-Jan-2009 11:19:11] **Cosmin> anyone know why zenoss is not showing all the routes for an linux machine?
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> When i try to delete the device i got the following error:
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> Type: IntegrityError
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> Value: (1062, "Duplicate entry '17b20f118eb495409d6ffffd5' for key 1")
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> Traceback (innermost last):
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:00] **sergeymasushko> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:01] **sergeymasushko> * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:03] **sergeymasushko> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:05] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenModel.Device, line 1568, in deleteDevice
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:07] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenEvents.EventManagerBase, line 1885, in manage_deleteAllEvents
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:09] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenEvents.EventManagerBase, line 1836, in deleteEvents
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:11] **sergeymasushko> * Module Products.ZenEvents.EventManagerBase, line 1802, in updateEvents
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:13] **sergeymasushko> * Module MySQLdb.cursors, line 137, in execute
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:15] **sergeymasushko> * Module MySQLdb.connections, line 33, in defaulterrorhandler
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:17] **sergeymasushko> IntegrityError: (1062, "Duplicate entry '17b20f118eb495409d6ffffd5' for key 1")
[06-Jan-2009 11:24:19] **sergeymasushko> Can anybody explain me what does it mean.
[06-Jan-2009 11:25:00] **mrayzenoss> Man, 8 months of mailing lists in my inbox and that's the first time I've seen it
[06-Jan-2009 11:26:13] **mrayzenoss> FreeBSD?
[06-Jan-2009 11:26:46] **sergeymasushko> as far as i understand ...1062, "Duplicate entry... can by caused by only by INSERT... but i'm tried to delete
[06-Jan-2009 11:27:08] **sergeymasushko> i'm using a wmvare zenoss 2.4
[06-Jan-2009 11:27:35] **mrayzenoss> I don't supposed you've rolled the 64-bit counter
[06-Jan-2009 11:28:04] **mrayzenoss> I'll try to get a dev to look at your post on zenoss-users
[06-Jan-2009 11:28:20] **mrayzenoss> search.zenoss.com didn't reveal anything
[06-Jan-2009 11:28:22] **sergeymasushko> thanks
[06-Jan-2009 11:29:55] **sergeymasushko> also i got the same error when i try to delete a event for this device. Maybe it is a root of the issue.
[06-Jan-2009 11:36:39] **sergeymasushko> One more question... i have an alert for UP/DOWN status of devices based on the "status/ping" event class. Each minute i receive up/down alerts on email for 3 devices. But i'm sure that these devices don't lost connection and work properly. what can caused it?
[06-Jan-2009 11:39:13] **sergeymasushko> mrayzenoss: sorry, i'm using 2.3.2 version.
[06-Jan-2009 13:42:25] **phrost6> anyway you can delete all discovered devices or at least turn snmp monitoring off?
[06-Jan-2009 13:47:19] **rhett> yes
[06-Jan-2009 13:47:28] **rhett> click on Devices under class
[06-Jan-2009 13:47:32] **rhett> click on discovered
[06-Jan-2009 13:48:02] **rhett> select all and go to to the drop down menu on the device list pane and go to delete
[06-Jan-2009 13:48:31] **rhett> you can also change the zproperties for the /Devices/Discovered class to not use snmp
[06-Jan-2009 13:48:52] **rhett> but you would have to push/remodel the devices after the changes had been made to zproperties
[06-Jan-2009 14:03:50] **nonsenso> i'm trying to use reportmail to send emails of reports.. i can't seem to figure out how to change the date range for the graphs..
[06-Jan-2009 14:04:22] **nonsenso> i tried doing a custom graph def with -s and -e for the ranges i want but it doesn't appear to work. any suggestions?
[06-Jan-2009 14:11:47] **bender183> hi, are the only methods that zenoss collects information through ssh and snmp ?
[06-Jan-2009 14:11:54] * bender183 is reading the manual atm
[06-Jan-2009 14:12:46] **rhett> what other solutions are you interested in
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:19] **bender183> well ssh creates a tremendous amount of load on the server, and snmp is a pos
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:21] **bender183> errrr
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:22] **bender183> pita
[06-Jan-2009 14:13:33] **bender183> something along the lines of nrpe
[06-Jan-2009 14:14:11] **rhett> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
[06-Jan-2009 14:14:19] **adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Jan-2009 14:15:39] **bender183> right ....but im not talking about plugins, im talking about the method of deliverance of data
[06-Jan-2009 14:15:44] **bender183> ie: daemons
[06-Jan-2009 14:18:45] **bender183> also if someone breaks ssh and you are using a common cert - which will happen - there will be issues
[06-Jan-2009 14:19:12] **bender183> i gotta say though, zenoss's dashboard beats the sh*t out of the nagios dashboard
[06-Jan-2009 14:20:22] **bender183> oh wait ....i just read something that said zenoss supports nrpe
[06-Jan-2009 14:20:22] **bender183>
[06-Jan-2009 14:35:55] **phrost6> rhett: thanks
[06-Jan-2009 14:36:09] **phrost6> now i just have to figure out why it keeps reporting free/used as unknown on all of the net-snmp centos boxes
[06-Jan-2009 14:37:21] **rhett> hm
[06-Jan-2009 14:37:56] **phrost6> i can see the proper data just fine with snmpwalk
[06-Jan-2009 14:38:12] **phrost6> zenplugin.py disk /mount works fine too
[06-Jan-2009 14:41:53] **phrost6> hrm uptime is showing as 00:00:00 too
[06-Jan-2009 14:43:50] **phrost6> now its working right, must have been snmp lag
[06-Jan-2009 14:44:27] **rhett> phrost6: if you 'snmpwalk -v version -c community host 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6' do you get proper results?
[06-Jan-2009 14:44:42] **rhett> oh nm
[06-Jan-2009 14:44:50] **rhett> i forgot to hit enter and no wi see you already stated that
[06-Jan-2009 14:49:26] **nonsenso> any ideas on setting the time range for graphs?
[06-Jan-2009 15:34:58] **phrost6> if you add a template is the template name global
[06-Jan-2009 15:35:11] **phrost6> eg can i create one called dell_omsa and add it to various servers or do i have to make one per device tree?
[06-Jan-2009 15:42:22] **rhett> u can map the template to various classes
[06-Jan-2009 15:51:58] **phrost6> can you do the same for systems / groups or are they just used for administrative organization?
[06-Jan-2009 18:10:20] **phrost6> rhett: heh now i have one centos 4 system reporting mount use as 0, but proper data is visible from 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1.6
[06-Jan-2009 18:10:33] **phrost6> rrdtool says %NaN
[06-Jan-2009 18:10:48] **rhett> hm
[06-Jan-2009 18:12:13] **phrost6> does it pull that over snmp usually or does it use zentools.py?
[06-Jan-2009 18:14:16] **rhett> i personally dont use the plugins and just use snmp so i am unsure
[06-Jan-2009 18:15:13] **rhett> you can try fetching from the rrd to see if there is actually any data in it
[06-Jan-2009 18:16:30] **rhett> rrdtool fetch pathtofileforgraph.rrd AVERAGE -r 300 -s 1 | tail -n 10
[06-Jan-2009 20:11:39] **phrost6> hmm
[06-Jan-2009 20:11:45] **phrost6> whats Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtin mean when using zcommand
[06-Jan-2009 20:11:45] **phrost6> lol
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[07-Jan-2009 02:46:02] **Gecko> How come zenoss keeps discovering an smtp service on my servers and polls it down right after...? That sounds more like invention than discovery
[07-Jan-2009 03:13:50] **Gecko> Anyone here?
[07-Jan-2009 03:16:20] **huggie> Gecko: Yes but there aren't many answers here.
[07-Jan-2009 03:31:02] **Gecko> huggie: true... Can you perhaps help me with my problem?
[07-Jan-2009 03:33:27] **huggie> I'm afraid it doesn't ring a bell.
[07-Jan-2009 03:34:55] **Gecko> right, thanks anyway
[07-Jan-2009 09:10:13] **jb> evt.component = "Node: %s:%s" % (gethostbyaddr(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode), evt.bigipNotifyObjPort)
[07-Jan-2009 09:10:17] **jb> anyone know why this isn't working?
[07-Jan-2009 09:10:25] **jb> it doesn't display anything.. it works without the gethostbyaddr()
[07-Jan-2009 15:34:04] **wassy121> Gecko: I found that zenoss will do that if the SMTP service is set to listen on 0.0.0.0:25, but iptables is blocking access from the monitor, the monitor will list it as down.
[07-Jan-2009 15:35:32] **wassy121> If you want to block remote access to port 25, I would suggest adding/editing the line in sendmail.mc to make it listen only on lo: DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl
[07-Jan-2009 15:36:41] **wassy121> So, zenoss reads the netstat output, sees that port 25 should be open to the entire world, sees that it (zenoss) has a monitoring plugin for port 25, so attempts to connect. Connection failed = service down.
[07-Jan-2009 15:37:22] **wassy121> (12 hours later, but he is still in channel. Maybe I helped
[07-Jan-2009 17:09:43] **Gecko> wassy121: you did
[07-Jan-2009 17:09:43] **Gecko>
[07-Jan-2009 17:09:58] **Gecko> wassy121: But does it read netstat through snmp?
[07-Jan-2009 17:12:56] **Gecko> I've found process monitoring quite unreliable though... Regex matching doesn't work as it should, and processes are polled down minutes after detected... Anyone else experience this?
[07-Jan-2009 17:14:38] **Gecko> (I'm here all the time, so just reply when you see the message... Don't worry about 12+ hours of delay
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[08-Jan-2009 08:42:25] **wassy121> Gecko: Yes, it reads netstat through SNMP. I forget the OID range, but I am sure google knows
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[08-Jan-2009 10:01:39] **mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening
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[08-Jan-2009 10:04:47] **mrayzenoss> Lots of Zenoss developers here today, any questions?
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:06] **Cosmin> always
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:07] **Cosmin>
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:09] **Cosmin> good morning
[08-Jan-2009 10:05:46] **Cosmin> why isnt zenoss show all the routes for a linux device?
[08-Jan-2009 10:06:33] **Cosmin> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=8431
[08-Jan-2009 10:06:40] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss not showing all the routes for an device (at forums.zenoss.com)
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:13] **jb> helllow
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:16] **cluther> If you have multiple routes to the same network, only one will be modeled. Is this the case for you?
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:22] **jb> hi matt/chet
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:35] **jb> cluther: thanks for the work on the bigip zenpack..
[08-Jan-2009 10:07:53] **Cosmin> mmmyes
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:17] **jb> hey kells
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:21] **Cosmin> hm... can that be overwrited?
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:27] **cluther> This is a limitation of how we represent routes in our model currently. We're using the netid as the key instead of the cidr representation.
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:28] **kells> Hi JB!
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:38] **cluther> Cosmin: Not in the near future, but we are thinking about it.
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:41] **jb> kells: did the guys get those B50's online?
[08-Jan-2009 10:08:53] **kells> They did, thank you!
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:02] **jb> any idea why this transform isn't working.. it validates, but doesn't display anything: evt.component = "Node: %s:%s" % (gethostbyaddr(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode), evt.bigipNotifyObjPort)
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:05] **Cosmin> ok thanks for that
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:08] **kells> We've actually got some of the new parsing stuff working on the test boxes, too!
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:10] **jb> without the gethostbyaddr() it works fine..
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:18] **jb> kells: awesome!
[08-Jan-2009 10:09:35] **jb> I'm anxious to see it..
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:00] **kells> There's still a lot of rough spots in it right now, unfortunately.
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:06] **cluther> jb: device.dmd.Devices.findDevice(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode)
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:09] **Cosmin> how about monitoring virtual hosts? like websites... i cant monitor more thatn one website because when i add another ip its reading the info for the website and it says that it already has it in and skipps it
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:10] **jb> its all SSH based, right?
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:16] **cluther> jb: Better than doing a gethostbyaddr in a transform
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:30] **kells> I'll be adding the documentation for it into the dev guide (which I got from another dev) in the next day or two
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:33] **cluther> jb.. oops.. device.dmd.Devices.findDevice(evt.bigipNotifyObjNode).id
[08-Jan-2009 10:10:35] **jb> cluther: hmm, ok.. let me try that.
[08-Jan-2009 10:11:19] **kells> jb: telnet might also be supported, IIRC
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:25] **jb> ok cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:38] **jb> i have to do something soon..
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:49] **kells> Were you looking for something else, in terms of protocols?
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:50] **jb> net-snmp dies as soon as AIX goes under stress..
[08-Jan-2009 10:12:55] **jb> no.. whatever works the best
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:00] **jb> which clearly is not SNMP on AIX
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:15] **jb> as long as we can model everything, and graphs, etc
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:16] **kells> Heh. AIX snmp dies regularly, even when totally relaxed.
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:28] **Cosmin> is there a way to monitor https web sites?
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:32] **jb> will all of that be supported?
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:44] **jb> Cosmin: you can use the naigos plugin..
[08-Jan-2009 10:13:57] **Cosmin> ok
[08-Jan-2009 10:14:29] **Cosmin> hwo about on windows 2003 server getting NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED when trying to pull using snmp
[08-Jan-2009 10:14:55] **jb> from your snmpwalk?
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:02] **jb> where do you see NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED?
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:14] **Cosmin> no
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:15] **Cosmin> hold on
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:23] **kells> jb: modelling will still be done through zenmodeler and the new parsing stuff for performance data (ie the stuff that gathers data for graphs) through zencommand
[08-Jan-2009 10:15:33] **jb> ah ok
[08-Jan-2009 10:16:11] **Cosmin> Could not read the status of Windows services (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[08-Jan-2009 10:16:32] **jb> are you speciying a zWinUser/Password with proper access?
[08-Jan-2009 10:16:41] **Cosmin> let me check
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:03] **Cosmin> no ...
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:09] **jb> thats your problem..
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:11] **Cosmin>
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:13] **Cosmin> thank you
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:22] **jb> yep
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:27] **Cosmin> should it be a domain user or local user is good?
[08-Jan-2009 10:17:37] **jb> local user with the proper access is fine..
[08-Jan-2009 10:18:22] **jb> I'm having a problem trying to stop monitoring certain windows services.. I have disabled the monitor on the device it's self, as well as in the /Services class, but I still get alerts that the service is down.. what do I need to do to completely stop monitoring these services for devices?
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:08] **cluther> 2.3.2?
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:17] **jb> yep
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:27] **jb> oh
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:29] **jb> actually no
[08-Jan-2009 10:19:30] **jb> 2.3.1
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:04] **jb> i didn't even know 2.3.2 was out :/
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:21] **jb> i will upgrade.. think that will be fixed?
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:29] **Cosmin> why cant i change the password for a zenoss user?
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:36] **Cosmin> i get
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:37] **cluther> No.. apparently not.. there is an open bug for this (#4192)
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> Type: TypeError
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> Value: iterable argument required
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> Traceback (innermost last):
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:39] **Cosmin> * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:40] **Cosmin> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:41] **cluther> Try this workaround..
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:42] **Cosmin> * Module Products.ZenModel.UserSettings, line 591, in manage_editUserSettings
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:43] **cluther> When you're globally disabling the monitoring of a Windows service do so at the Edit tab for the service class instead of the zProperties tab. If the service is already set to Monitor == False then use the Edit tab to set it back to true, then false again. After doing this for all affected services you should restart the zenwin daemon and manually move any of these improper /Status/WinService events to history.
[08-Jan-2009 10:20:44] **Cosmin> TypeError: iterable argument required
[08-Jan-2009 10:21:08] **jb> Hm. one sec.
[08-Jan-2009 10:23:12] **jb> Ok.. did that.. we will see if they come back. Thanks
[08-Jan-2009 10:23:35] **Cosmin> anyone?
[08-Jan-2009 10:23:58] **Cosmin> should i change permissions for the user or something?
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:02] **mrayzenoss> Cosmin: where is that happening? Which version?
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:07] **Cosmin> 2.3.2
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:40] **Cosmin> i added a zenuser and the loged in with it, tried to change the password
[08-Jan-2009 10:24:44] **Cosmin> and i cant
[08-Jan-2009 10:25:46] **mrayzenoss> firing up a 2.3.2 instance, I'll see what I get
[08-Jan-2009 10:27:42] **Cosmin> thank yuo
[08-Jan-2009 10:29:51] **jb> so.. hows blue crab coming?
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:33] **mrayzenoss> Cosmin: are you doing that as admin?
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:43] **Cosmin> yes i add the user as admin
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:51] **Cosmin> and the log in with the user that i added
[08-Jan-2009 10:30:57] **Cosmin> and try to change the password
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:04] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I get an error too
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:08] **mrayzenoss> I'll open a ticket
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:13] **Cosmin> cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:15] **Cosmin> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 10:31:18] **mrayzenoss> sorry about that
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:25] **kells> wrt blue crab: there's some bumps as there's still waaay too many open tickets, and requirements for new things pop up, and possibly a new (unexpected) point release.
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:38] **jb> cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:44] **jb> so the interface has been revamped?
[08-Jan-2009 10:33:56] **mrayzenoss> yeah, we'll have some Blue Crab wire frames soon
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:01] **jb> ok cool
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:09] **mrayzenoss> a lot of cleanups
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:15] **kells> Heh
[08-Jan-2009 10:34:59] **kells> Blue crab (as far as the UI is concerned) will probably be focussed on a few major workflows (ie the normal use cases)
[08-Jan-2009 10:35:30] **kells> As with any UI, there's lots of things that could be done, but only a finite amount of time to spend.
[08-Jan-2009 10:35:36] **jb> right..
[08-Jan-2009 10:35:40] **jb> UI is tricky business..
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:04] **jb> kells: you had said that initially, the AIX stuff will probably not model volume groups, etc, right?
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:11] **jb> just the filesystems
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:38] **Cosmin> ok now... why am i keep getting these? Error reading value for "ssCpuRawWait" on (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.54.0 is ...
[08-Jan-2009 10:37:58] **kells> jb: I'd better not comment on that until I actually try building a few modelers + collectors to see what the limitations are...
[08-Jan-2009 10:38:18] **Cosmin> i know its because its an older version of redhat
[08-Jan-2009 10:38:28] **Cosmin> but why are they keep clearing and comming back?
[08-Jan-2009 10:38:29] **kells> jb: errpt stuff also isn't on the table (but I'll probably put one in anyway
)[08-Jan-2009 10:39:14] **kells> jb: I don't have any experience with the new modelers, so please treat my comments as speculation rather than as fact
[08-Jan-2009 10:39:29] **mrayzenoss> created http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4243 for the broken password
[08-Jan-2009 10:40:26] **jb> sure
[08-Jan-2009 10:40:31] **jb> i didn't even think about errpt stuff
[08-Jan-2009 10:40:34] **jb> that would be awesome
[08-Jan-2009 10:41:08] **Cosmin> thank you mrayzenoss
[08-Jan-2009 10:41:22] **kells> I saw that I could toss in events into the performance gatherers and I thought "errpt would be cool to do!"
[08-Jan-2009 10:41:48] **jb> yes, very
[08-Jan-2009 10:42:59] **Cosmin> what do i need to do so that zenoss can pull the serial numbers, hw model, os make, os version etc
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:35] **jb> of what OS?
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:41] **jb> windows?
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:50] **Cosmin> windows and linux
[08-Jan-2009 10:43:58] **jb> are they dell or HP servers?
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:02] **Cosmin> dell
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:09] **jb> do you have openmanage installed on them?
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:17] **Cosmin> nope
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:24] **Cosmin> i guess that would be the problem?
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:27] **kells> cosmin: check out the 2.3.x version of the Dev guide if you're interested in programming one of your own modelers (ie the thing that grabs the serial numbers, hw models etc)
[08-Jan-2009 10:44:50] **jb> you will need to install openmanage on all of the linux boxes for this to work out of the box.. this also provides you with important SNMP traps (array alerts, etc), so you should really be doing that anyways
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:03] **jb> as far as windows.. install openmanage + snmp-informant for the best results
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:13] **Cosmin> i have snmp-informant
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:22] **Cosmin> on windows boxes
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:25] **Cosmin> ill look in to it
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:26] **jb> k.. you need openmanage
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:26] **Cosmin> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 10:45:44] **Cosmin> kells thanks for that ill look in to it see if i can come up with something
[08-Jan-2009 10:46:56] **Cosmin> oh and jb puttin the user and the password for that windows box didnt work
[08-Jan-2009 10:47:09] **Cosmin> i still get ould not read the status of Windows services (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[08-Jan-2009 10:47:51] **jb> you need to check your WMI connectivity
[08-Jan-2009 10:47:56] **jb> there are numerous threads in the forums
[08-Jan-2009 10:48:48] **Cosmin> let me try that again
[08-Jan-2009 10:48:53] **Cosmin> maybe i missedtyped
[08-Jan-2009 10:50:35] **Cosmin> anyone know why these alarms are keep clearing and comming back? Error reading value for "ssIORawSent" ?
[08-Jan-2009 10:55:04] **mrayzenoss> I'm not turning up anything on that, why don't you start a forum thread with all the details and maybe someone will have some insight
[08-Jan-2009 10:56:23] **Cosmin> ok
[08-Jan-2009 10:56:24] **Cosmin> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 11:03:28] **mrayzenoss> Thanks to everyone who stopped by, I'll have the transcript up shortly
[08-Jan-2009 11:04:08] **bill_> hi. I'm just looking into zenoss. can someone point me to how to get cpu monitoring to work on hp linux box?
[08-Jan-2009 11:04:29] **mrayzenoss> probably your best bet would be to use SNMP
[08-Jan-2009 11:04:53] **bill_> yes, but doesn't work with hp. works great with solaris
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:05] **mrayzenoss> we've got a Getting Started with Zenoss guide that will get you on your way: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/Getting_Started_with_Zenoss_2.3.pdf
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:29] **mrayzenoss> you may need to enable SNMP on your box
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:35] **cluther> bill_: There's also a very good HP-UX community ZenPack. It leverages the Emanate agent.
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:37] **mrayzenoss> which distro of Linux are you using?
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:57] **cluther> bill_: Ooops.. linux, nevermind.
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:57] **bill_> Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update 4)
[08-Jan-2009 11:05:58] **mrayzenoss> ahh, HPUX, I thought you said Linux on an HP box
[08-Jan-2009 11:06:39] **bill_> not sure if this helps: (08:46:11)[root@cmsapp2 TEST ~]# snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic 10.176.110.86 .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1 End of MIB
[08-Jan-2009 11:11:39] **cluther> bill_: Edit your /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[08-Jan-2009 11:12:01] **cluther> bill_: Find the line that begins with "view" and change the OID on the end of the line to just be ".1" instead of the long one.
[08-Jan-2009 11:12:08] **cluther> bill_: Then "service snmpd restart" and try the snmpwalk again.
[08-Jan-2009 11:13:34] **bill_> ah, that looks much better, thanks!!
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:17] **Cosmin> is there a way to do all the patches for zenoss?
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:21] **Cosmin> like update or something?
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:26] **Cosmin> or thats not a good idea?
[08-Jan-2009 11:14:58] **mrayzenoss> not sure that's the best idea, we typically try to roll out new maintenance releases that roll-up patches
[08-Jan-2009 11:15:18] **mrayzenoss> so if you had a specific error, you could get the patch from the proposed maintenance release before it comes out
[08-Jan-2009 11:16:37] **mrayzenoss> for example, here are the tickets currently assigned against 2.3.3 http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/query?col=id&col=summary&col=type&col=status&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component&order=priority&patch=2.3.3
[08-Jan-2009 11:16:56] **mrayzenoss> so you could apply the patches from closed tickets if they are relevant to you
[08-Jan-2009 11:17:23] **mrayzenoss> but no, we don't have an automated process for applying all available patches
[08-Jan-2009 11:19:58] **jb> are there any plan for reports via email?
[08-Jan-2009 11:20:01] **jb> plans
[08-Jan-2009 11:20:13] **jb> like.. a report that you could schedule to be emailed every day or so..
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:04] **cluther> jb: There's a tool that comes with zenoss called reportmail
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:11] **jb> ah ok
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:19] **cluther> jb: It allows you to email the contents of any page within the web interface from cron.
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:20] **jb> is it able to send graph's as well?
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:24] **cluther> jb: Yes.
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:25] **jb> oh ok
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:26] **jb> cool
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:29] **jb> i'll check that
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:33] **cluther> jb: reportmail --help
[08-Jan-2009 11:21:37] **jb> thanks
[08-Jan-2009 11:22:09] **cluther> jb: I'm not really as rude as IRC makes me out to be.
[08-Jan-2009 11:22:21] **jb> haha.. i don't think you are rude
[08-Jan-2009 11:24:46] **mrayzenoss> later everybody
[08-Jan-2009 11:24:50] **jb> seeya.
[08-Jan-2009 12:57:03] **wassy121> I have a zenoss server sitting behind a firewall with a tunnel to 6-8 different places. If the tunnel fails, I get 72834 alerts. Can I have a "tunnel" check that alerts only once when this happens?
[08-Jan-2009 12:58:16] **wassy121> It also has pubnet access to a few other sites as well. So, I can always tell when the tunnel blips as all my privnet machines generate an email for IP outage.
[08-Jan-2009 16:07:23] **nonsenso> anyone here?
[08-Jan-2009 16:07:45] **sergeymasushko> hello
[08-Jan-2009 16:08:10] **nonsenso> my events database is corrupted. i was wondering if i can safely just drop the db and recreate it
[08-Jan-2009 16:09:26] **sergeymasushko> hm... do you mean events that stored in the history?
[08-Jan-2009 16:10:26] **nonsenso> yeah
[08-Jan-2009 16:17:13] **sergeymasushko> hm... maybe you can set 'Delete Historical Events Older Than (days)' to '0' under the 'Event Manager' page. probably it will delete all previously saved events. and then return previous value. but it is just a guess.
[08-Jan-2009 16:51:33] **Faust-C> does anyone aside from myself use the "VMware Virtual Machines" zenpack?
[08-Jan-2009 16:51:59] **Faust-C> i've looked thru the whole pkg and still havent figured out how to properly get items to display
[08-Jan-2009 17:15:40] **gloin> Hey, I'm trying to acknolwedge an event by hitting the checkbox and then selecting ack from the dropdown, and the login prompt appears repeatedly even though I'm logged in correctly. How do I fix this?
[08-Jan-2009 17:17:03] **gloin> I should also mention that the moment I click into the username field of the login prompt, the prompt goes away and the checkbox next to the event I wanted to ack goes away as well.
[08-Jan-2009 17:20:38] **Faust-C> gloin: what linux?
[08-Jan-2009 17:21:00] **gloin> Faust-C: the server?
[08-Jan-2009 17:21:31] **gloin> debian etch, if you were asking about the server
[08-Jan-2009 17:26:23] **Faust-C> yeah
[08-Jan-2009 17:26:42] **gloin> known issue? How to fix?
[08-Jan-2009 17:26:57] **Faust-C> using native pkg or the binary stack
[08-Jan-2009 17:29:05] **gloin> looks like it was installed with apt
[08-Jan-2009 17:30:08] **gloin> ii zenoss-stack 2.2.4-0 Zenoss Stack with all requirements.
[08-Jan-2009 17:35:50] **Faust-C> thats the stack
[08-Jan-2009 17:35:56] **Faust-C> hmm what do logs say?
[08-Jan-2009 17:37:42] **gloin> where does zenoss stash its logs?
[08-Jan-2009 17:39:24] **Faust-C> i think /var/log but im not sure
[08-Jan-2009 17:40:15] **gloin> doesn't look that way
[08-Jan-2009 17:40:23] **Faust-C> sec lemme see
[08-Jan-2009 17:40:25] **gloin> (I didn't set this box up)
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:10] **Faust-C> /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/log
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:22] * Faust-C cd / && find . -name *zen*
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:34] **gloin> smoke comes from servers heh
[08-Jan-2009 17:41:38] **gloin> it's installed in /usr/local
[08-Jan-2009 17:43:29] **gloin> looks like it's a role problem
[08-Jan-2009 17:43:39] **gloin> the default admin user works fine
[08-Jan-2009 17:43:50] **gloin> but that's one heck of an error message
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:01] **gloin> ahh
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:01] **gloin> /usr/local/zenoss-2.2.3/zenoss/log)
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:21] **Faust-C> a lil diff than miune (ubuntu)
[08-Jan-2009 17:45:24] **Faust-C> err mine*
[08-Jan-2009 17:46:54] **gloin> actually, that isn't the current instance
[08-Jan-2009 17:46:55] **gloin> heh
[08-Jan-2009 17:46:58] **gloin> old version
[08-Jan-2009 20:07:09] **loflika> does anyone have a moment to help me set up Service Monitoring in Windows?
[08-Jan-2009 22:42:23] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[08-Jan-2009 22:42:30] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[09-Jan-2009 09:01:11] **Faust-C> when monitoring windows servers using snmp i get errors about wrong OID's
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[09-Jan-2009 10:50:32] **davetoo1> I keep forgetting about the thursday dev chats
[09-Jan-2009 10:51:46] **rjune> you missed it.
[09-Jan-2009 10:52:23] **davetoo1> I'll have to look at the logs; the one I made was pretty chaotic.
[09-Jan-2009 10:53:25] **davetoo1> Does anybody besides me care about zenhubworkers? Nobody ever answers me on the mailing list :
[09-Jan-2009 10:53:27] **davetoo1>
[09-Jan-2009 10:54:56] * Faust-C davetoo1 w00t
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[09-Jan-2009 10:59:42] **DaveToo1> I'm still not convinced they're a win, though.
[09-Jan-2009 11:00:14] **DaveToo1> My previous solution to the problem of zenhub being too busy to add new devices, or run a remodel,
[09-Jan-2009 11:01:25] **DaveToo1> was to run a second instance of the full zenhub on a different port, and change the default zenmodeler config to use that second hub. But that requires hacking in some new versions in ${ZENHOME}/bin.
[09-Jan-2009 11:01:52] **DaveToo1> That actually seems more stable.
[09-Jan-2009 11:02:31] **DaveToo1> But I'd rather go with a stock Zenoss config/feature than have to hack each of my installs.
[09-Jan-2009 13:35:33] **Faust-C> hmm zenoss is confused
[09-Jan-2009 13:35:39] **Faust-C> cause it says swap isnt met
[09-Jan-2009 13:35:43] **Faust-C> but none is being used
[09-Jan-2009 14:43:22] **BroncoBuster> Ok, so I loaded the zenpack for the cisco asa, then I added the template, how do view the vpn stats?
[09-Jan-2009 14:46:57] **BroncoBuster> Anyone have a clue?
[09-Jan-2009 14:52:09] **rhett_> unsure. i dont have any cisco devices :\
[09-Jan-2009 14:55:06] **BroncoBuster>
lol I think it is installed right, but I dont get anything extra in the device. I didn't get any errors[09-Jan-2009 14:56:45] **BroncoBuster> what kind of devices do you monitor? servers?
[09-Jan-2009 14:59:22] **rhett_> servers, firewalls, routers
[09-Jan-2009 14:59:24] **rhett_> switches
[09-Jan-2009 15:00:21] **BroncoBuster> right on
[09-Jan-2009 15:01:39] **BroncoBuster> I have been able to get everything to work but that so far, I'm just getting into zenoss
[09-Jan-2009 15:41:27] **gem-in-eye> Has anyone ever setup MPLS links in Zenoss Core?
[09-Jan-2009 15:41:43] **BroncoBuster> Anyone pop in that has the asa zenpack installed
[09-Jan-2009 15:42:09] **BroncoBuster> gem, I would think it would show up just like an interface if its a cisco device
[09-Jan-2009 15:43:00] **gem-in-eye> I have the routers at both ends but with MPLS AT&T manages the routes inbetween. It's not a point to point link.
[09-Jan-2009 15:43:30] **gem-in-eye> What's the asa zenpack? I don't see it on the site.
[09-Jan-2009 15:44:01] **BroncoBuster> It is supposed to give you an extra template to be able to pull vpn stats and ipsec drops
[09-Jan-2009 15:44:22] **BroncoBuster> But I can't figure out where to view it lol
[09-Jan-2009 15:45:25] **gem-in-eye> Right now I'm trying to sell my company on Zenoss. I wanted to show them a pretty google map with all the network links but we only have direct link that shows on the map.
[09-Jan-2009 15:46:54] **BroncoBuster> so you have like 3 sites and want lines drawn between them but the line isn't showing up?
[09-Jan-2009 15:48:12] **BroncoBuster> or its not showing up as a different site?
[09-Jan-2009 15:48:42] **gem-in-eye> We have many more then 3 but basically yeah. Router at site A has an IP given to us by ATT for it's next hop, same with router at site B. Both IP's aren't on the same network and ATT handles the routing between the two sites.
[09-Jan-2009 15:50:56] **gem-in-eye> When I add the IP's ATT gave us as devices all it can do is a ping test. Ideally I want a line drawn between sites A and B or at least a line drawn between site A and a location I assigned for where the ATT IP might reside.
[09-Jan-2009 15:51:18] **BroncoBuster> I got you. make sure that the devices are in different locations and make sure each location has that network listed and it should put a different dot and draw the line
[09-Jan-2009 15:53:28] **BroncoBuster> thats from what I understand anyway
[09-Jan-2009 15:53:53] **BroncoBuster> but I'm a jack of all trades and master of none
[09-Jan-2009 15:59:58] **gem-in-eye> It doesn't work. Because all I get is a ping check on the IP, even though I have it listed in the correct location, it can't figure out that the router should create a link between the two.
[09-Jan-2009 16:00:54] **BroncoBuster> does it put the dot, but no line?
[09-Jan-2009 16:01:01] **gem-in-eye> yep
[09-Jan-2009 16:01:49] **BroncoBuster> I have that problem with a ping only site. I have not had that problem with any snmp sites. Give me a minute and I'll test if I put snmp if the line appears
[09-Jan-2009 16:02:33] **gem-in-eye> I have snmp on my router, but the ping only site can't use snmp.
[09-Jan-2009 16:03:15] **gem-in-eye> I'd love to use snmp on the router IP ATT gave us but that's never going to happen.
[09-Jan-2009 16:05:39] **BroncoBuster> is it a cisco?
[09-Jan-2009 16:07:42] **BroncoBuster> you have any other devies on the remote side?
[09-Jan-2009 16:10:53] **BroncoBuster> I'm trying it now, but it wont update lol
[09-Jan-2009 16:41:42] **loflika> gem-in-eye, you have a managed circuit through ATT?
[09-Jan-2009 16:41:50] **loflika> they should give you the SNMP string for it
[09-Jan-2009 16:56:44] **BroncoBuster> I can't get the line to draw on two sites either lol
[09-Jan-2009 16:57:13] **BroncoBuster> all the ones that are connected to a t1 to our router works
[09-Jan-2009 16:58:45] **BroncoBuster> I must be doing something wrong, I have 2 zenoss boxes monitoring 2 different networks with the same result. Anyone have a clue?
[09-Jan-2009 17:02:52] **BroncoBuster> I found the answer, if the locations don't share a common network it will not draw the line, now to figure out how to get around it
[09-Jan-2009 17:40:23] **baggend> Is there any way to edit the parameters (name, max speed, etc) of an interface that was auto-discovered on a device? All I appear to be able to change is the Monitor setting. (using zenoss core)
[09-Jan-2009 17:41:29] **BroncoBuster> anyone have a work around for getting the line to draw on networks through a vpn?
[09-Jan-2009 17:42:01] **BroncoBuster> Also does anyone know where I get the vpn stats once the asa zenpack installed?
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[10-Jan-2009 18:13:20] **jetole> hey guys
[10-Jan-2009 18:14:24] **jetole> complete zenoss newbie here and I am wondering if it is possible to have multiple zenoss systems linked together so that in the event that one loses it's connection to the net, it won't report hundreds of downed services
[10-Jan-2009 19:21:28] **Faust-C> jetole: of course
[10-Jan-2009 19:21:37] **Faust-C> you can have multiple nodes
[10-Jan-2009 19:28:12] **jetole> sweet
[10-Jan-2009 19:28:16] **jetole> thanks Faust-C
[10-Jan-2009 19:31:44] **Faust-C> yw'
[10-Jan-2009 19:33:27] **jetole> yay, downloading windows 7 beta
[10-Jan-2009 19:33:32] * jetole rolls his eyes
[10-Jan-2009 20:09:09] **phrost6> hmm we have 1 system that's reporting 0% cpu idle but it's actually 400% when you login to the box
[10-Jan-2009 20:09:16] **phrost6> any ideas where i'd look to figure that one out
[10-Jan-2009 20:09:25] **phrost6> zen sees it as 0% on sys/user/wait/idle
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[11-Jan-2009 07:58:59] **axisys> pas
[11-Jan-2009 11:51:11] **cereal> i am receiving traps from a cisco switch and i'm trying to actually make the events useful. currently all i get is 'snmp linkdown', does anyone know where a getting started section for event transforming is? I have been reading the forums for a while and there are lots of questions but few if any answers to guide me in getting started.
[11-Jan-2009 11:51:38] **cereal> so far i know that i am given 'evt' and 'dev' but i know nothing about those objects...thus its driving me insane trying to figure them out.
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[12-Jan-2009 03:01:05] **daans> anyone here who can help me with creating a performence report from a selection of guests running in our virtual infrastructure
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[12-Jan-2009 12:51:48] **loflika> Does anyone have Zenoss working with a non-administrative account with WMI Support? I'm having some trouble on 2003 Servers and have hit a dead end searching forum / on-line docs.
[12-Jan-2009 13:07:34] **loflika> Does anyone have Zenoss working with a non-administrative account with WMI Support? I'm having some trouble on 2003 Servers and have hit a dead end searching forum / on-line docs.
[12-Jan-2009 14:54:01] **jiffe88> the sourceforge mirror hosting zenoss is ass slow right now
[12-Jan-2009 14:58:25] **teletype> Hi, I'm trying to set up monitoring via WMI using a non-admin user account. I've created the account, allowed it via dcomcnfg, granted perms to CIMV2 and perfmon trees via wmimgmt.msc. I've even tried granting it perms to Root (recursive to children), no dice. I can make queries via wmic though. Anyone have any idea what I may be missing?
[12-Jan-2009 14:58:34] **teletype> works fine as Administrator
[12-Jan-2009 15:04:22] **loflika> i had the same issue
[12-Jan-2009 15:04:27] **loflika> or have the same issue
[12-Jan-2009 15:05:17] **teletype> i preferred the past tense version =)
[12-Jan-2009 15:05:55] **loflika> i found an article on-line im trying to find it again to link it
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:28] **loflika> its pretty much said that its a known thing
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:34] **loflika> and there's no fix
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:43] **teletype> there's always a fix
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:47] **loflika> i dont know though, if someone was able to create a WMI account other than admin
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:51] **loflika> ive been digging for a week
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:53] **teletype> o
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:55] **loflika> without success
[12-Jan-2009 15:06:57] **teletype> i'm going to have to
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:10] **loflika> i did everything dcom permissions and WMI permissions
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:11] **teletype> that's a dealbreaker for us
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:12] **loflika> and it still fails
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:44] **loflika> well i created an account
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:47] **loflika> and gave it local admin
[12-Jan-2009 15:07:58] **teletype> yeah, i don't want it to have any admin access at all
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:04] **loflika> right me either
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:08] **loflika> im testing around on my demo box
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:11] **teletype> did it work when you gave it local admin?
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:15] **loflika> yeah it did
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:19] **teletype> hrm...
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:33] **baggend> Anyone know if it's possible to feed zenoss historical MRTG data? We've been using MRTG for years, and are wanting to move to Zenoss, but we'd like to have the historical data reflected in Zenoss if possible.
[12-Jan-2009 15:08:50] **baggend> (particularly for bandwidth usage trends)
[12-Jan-2009 15:09:11] **teletype> mrtg uses rrd, right?
[12-Jan-2009 15:09:18] **teletype> you could probably do it with rrdtool dump/restore
[12-Jan-2009 15:10:45] **baggend> Err, mrtg *can* use RRD. Our old install just uses the standard text-file format. Though I think there is a rrd conversion tool.
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:04] **baggend> If I can get the data into RRD, how can I restore it to the zenoss logs? (i.e. where does it store the logs?)
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:17] **loflika> teletype what error do you get
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:23] **loflika> when you try query with a different account
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:28] **loflika> from the wmitest tool
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:31] **teletype> NTSTATUS: NT code 0xc0041003 - NT code 0xc0041003
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:38] **loflika> 80041003?
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:48] **teletype> c0041003 it says
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:49] **loflika> 1003 means dcom
[12-Jan-2009 15:11:58] **loflika> have you set your decom permissions for that user yet?
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:00] **loflika> sec
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:04] **loflika> let me dig instructions
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:22] **teletype> yes, i can query it via wmic
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:26] **baggend> cd o
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:26] **baggend> ls
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:27] **loflika> hm ok
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:29] **baggend> whoops
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:36] **loflika> i remember seeing that error described
[12-Jan-2009 15:12:52] **loflika> my issue was 41001
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:10] **teletype> doesn't help that i'm pretty clueless w/ windows, heh
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:13] **loflika> haha
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:14] **loflika> ok sec
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:21] **loflika> i hate windows also
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:24] **teletype> then again so is our mcse =)
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:24] **loflika> im a unix guy
[12-Jan-2009 15:13:27] **teletype> same
[12-Jan-2009 15:15:58] **krphop> oh you have a minesweeper certified solitare expert in house?
[12-Jan-2009 15:15:59] **krphop> damn
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:13] **loflika> 0x80041003 (WBEM_E_ACCESS_DENIED)
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:13] **loflika> This typically results when the process trying to access the namespace does not have the required WMI privileges. The account attempting remote access should be an administrator on the target computer; in addition, the account might need to have a specific privilege enabled.
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:13] **loflika> To troubleshoot this error, check the namespace security on the remote namespace to see the privileges enabled for the account.
[12-Jan-2009 15:18:18] **loflika> sec
[12-Jan-2009 15:19:02] **teletype> yeah, right now i'm trying with full r/w/exec/everything perms on Root namespace, recursive to all children
[12-Jan-2009 15:19:03] **teletype> no dice
[12-Jan-2009 15:20:06] **loflika> check this out
[12-Jan-2009 15:20:07] **loflika> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/29502240/some-80041001-generic-fai.aspx
[12-Jan-2009 15:20:11] **loflika> read the end of that thread
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:24] **loflika> You did this?
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> DCOM permissions using dcomcnfg
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> modifying the "Edit Default" in Access Permissions and Launch and activations
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> permissions. I've changed the "Edit Limits" options in the "Launch and
[12-Jan-2009 15:21:25] **loflika> activations Permissions".
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:07] **teletype> hrm
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:21] **teletype> i changed it in 'edit limits' but not edit default
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:42] **loflika> should matter that much
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:51] **teletype> like i said though, i can make queries via wmic
[12-Jan-2009 15:22:55] **loflika> yeah
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:00] **loflika> it sounds like that works fine
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:31] **loflika> it pisses me off that services arent monitored via snmp
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:38] **loflika> why do i need retarded wmi
[12-Jan-2009 15:23:48] **loflika> frustrating
[12-Jan-2009 15:24:02] **loflika> there are oid's for services etc..
[12-Jan-2009 15:25:13] **teletype> hrm
[12-Jan-2009 15:25:52] **teletype> actually i take that back. i can do some queries via wmi but not others. "select * from Win32_ComputerSystem" works. "select * from Win32_PerfRawData_PerfOS_Memory" gets me a 0xc0041003
[12-Jan-2009 15:26:12] **loflika> with your non-admin user?
[12-Jan-2009 15:26:16] **teletype> yes
[12-Jan-2009 15:26:36] **loflika> hm I can login with my nonadmin user but i get an error just running the basic query
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:02] **teletype> and just as you said, i just tried adding it to the administrators group and i can run that last query just fine now. hrm.
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:08] **teletype> annoyance
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:12] **loflika> and i had set all my dcom and wmi priveleges to as much permissions as possible
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:18] **loflika> yeah
[12-Jan-2009 15:27:21] **teletype> yeah, that's what i did as a test, too
[12-Jan-2009 15:28:24] **loflika> lots of peeps in here, anyone able to get that to work?
[12-Jan-2009 15:30:30] **teletype> sigh. and it would seem adding to the administrators group allows them to see EVERYTHING via WMI even if you've specifically disallowed it...
[12-Jan-2009 15:30:44] **teletype> so what's the bloody point of allowing you to set the permissions heh
[12-Jan-2009 15:36:59] **igowest> i am having a problem with zenoss not emailing alerts, even when I generate an event
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:05] **igowest> but command line all ok
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:24] **igowest> can anyone help
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:25] **loflika> did you give it a mail server in the config?
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:33] **igowest> had it as localhost
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:40] **igowest> now i have it as its ip
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:41] **loflika> your sendmail may not be set up properly
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:49] **loflika> have you checked you /var/log/mail
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:51] **igowest> it works on command line
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:53] **loflika> seeing if messages are sent?
[12-Jan-2009 15:37:54] **loflika> ah
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:10] **igowest> as root or as zenoss user
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:17] **loflika> try as zenoss user
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:24] **igowest> i am running ubuntu
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:33] **igowest> i did all ok
[12-Jan-2009 15:38:33] **loflika> i had it working on centos
[12-Jan-2009 15:39:40] **igowest> so no ideas
[12-Jan-2009 15:41:02] **loflika> have you tried using a different mailserver other than localhost?
[12-Jan-2009 15:42:07] **loflika> a different mail relay rather
[12-Jan-2009 15:44:13] **igowest> yes
[12-Jan-2009 15:44:15] **igowest> still no go
[12-Jan-2009 15:44:26] **igowest> so got to do with config of zenoss
[12-Jan-2009 15:46:49] **baggend> igowest: If your mail from header is @localhost, most MTA's will never accept the message. How are you testing from the command line?
[12-Jan-2009 17:24:16] **perr0> da new search function on zenoss forum blows
[12-Jan-2009 17:24:33] **perr0> I want back the old search function
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[13-Jan-2009 00:12:13] **raddy> Hello
[13-Jan-2009 00:12:18] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[13-Jan-2009 03:23:35] **c0nfl|ct> bom dia mundo
[13-Jan-2009 11:15:05] **wassy121> Hello, is there any way to make devices sit "behind" a switch, so that when the switch goes down I don't get 100 alerts for all the machines connected, just one big red one for the switch itself?
[13-Jan-2009 11:18:56] **nemo_> are you monitoring a router ?
[13-Jan-2009 11:19:51] **nemo_> as i understand , zenoss works out topology from snmp on routers
[13-Jan-2009 11:20:01] **nemo_> i am not doing it myself, therefore suffering the same
[13-Jan-2009 11:26:32] **wassy121> Right, but if the router fails, the alerts are generated for all machines behind said router, right?
[13-Jan-2009 11:26:45] **wassy121> In my case, it is a VPN tunnel that fails for a few minutes at a time.
[13-Jan-2009 11:27:21] **nemo_> i still think zenoss requires a layer 3 device to read to work out topology
[13-Jan-2009 11:27:24] **nemo_> thats what i read
[13-Jan-2009 11:27:36] **nemo_> gtg, tomorrow !
[13-Jan-2009 11:31:53] **wassy121> tks.
[13-Jan-2009 11:35:24] **cereal_> does anyone know a good starting point for event transforms?
[13-Jan-2009 11:35:45] **cereal_> i want to make the snmp events for linkdown and linkup actually be meaningful rather than -- not
[13-Jan-2009 11:49:14] **igowest> is there any1 who can help me troubleshoot email alerts not being sent on a ubuntu server
[13-Jan-2009 11:50:37] **perr0> igowest: what do you mean
[13-Jan-2009 11:50:49] **perr0> from zenoss or the server itself?
[13-Jan-2009 11:51:06] **igowest> well I know my email system works because on command line i can email with root and with a zenoss user
[13-Jan-2009 11:51:18] **igowest> but when alert comes in, I do not get alerts
[13-Jan-2009 11:51:29] **igowest> it is like it does not run an email process at all
[13-Jan-2009 11:52:01] **igowest> i have smtp host as localhost on port 25
[13-Jan-2009 11:52:33] **perr0> right so the issue i troubleshooting e-mail on zenoss?
[13-Jan-2009 11:52:53] **igowest> i would think its zenoss, cause email system works
[13-Jan-2009 11:53:11] **igowest> oops yes email on zenoss
[13-Jan-2009 11:53:35] **Pinger> afternoon (if you're in EST)
[13-Jan-2009 11:53:54] **igowest> afty to you too
[13-Jan-2009 11:55:10] **Pinger> got a question about monitoring APC PDUs
[13-Jan-2009 11:55:44] **Pinger> specifically...can you?
[13-Jan-2009 11:58:53] **Pinger> I have an APC PDU, switched...and I need to monitor the power usage per outlet...which you can't do via their interface
[13-Jan-2009 11:59:35] **perr0> igowest: did you look into yout zenactions.log for information
[13-Jan-2009 11:59:41] **perr0> your
[13-Jan-2009 12:00:18] **perr0> $HOME_ZENOSS/zenoss/logs
[13-Jan-2009 12:03:38] **igowest> says ZenACtions:Processed 0 commands in 0.00031
[13-Jan-2009 12:03:46] **igowest> not more than that
[13-Jan-2009 12:05:46] **igowest> is zenmail suppost to be running
[13-Jan-2009 12:07:11] **perr0> igowest: do you have it configured in settings with an actual SMTP username and password?
[13-Jan-2009 12:14:01] **igowest> no username/password
[13-Jan-2009 12:15:45] **perr0> there you go
[13-Jan-2009 12:16:17] **perr0> oops wrong window
[13-Jan-2009 12:17:49] **igowest> huh ?
[13-Jan-2009 12:18:14] **igowest> why would i need username password setup for smtp
[13-Jan-2009 12:35:48] **perr0> usually for relays I would imagine
[13-Jan-2009 12:35:55] **perr0> or for security
[13-Jan-2009 12:43:24] **igowest> no server is wide open
[13-Jan-2009 12:43:31] **igowest> so no need for username/password
[13-Jan-2009 12:43:57] **igowest> the thing is that we do not see anything in actions log
[13-Jan-2009 12:44:09] **igowest> i would at least see something there
[13-Jan-2009 12:55:51] **igowest> ok found el problemo
[13-Jan-2009 12:56:07] **igowest> alerting rules do not work with the admin user
[13-Jan-2009 12:56:14] **igowest> you need to create a new user
[13-Jan-2009 16:59:23] **gem-in-eye> I've got a dumb question. What's the difference between the Stack Installer for CentOS and the Native packages for CentOS 5?
[13-Jan-2009 17:00:36] **rhett_> stack has all the dependencies int he package
[13-Jan-2009 17:01:15] **rhett_> so if you dont to install mysql swig and the various other packages you may need stack is the way to go
[13-Jan-2009 17:02:23] **gem-in-eye> I'm doing a fresh install of the machine. I want the best performance and the Native packages looked specific to CentOS 5 which is what I'm using. Wouldn't that be better, perhaps not easier though.
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[14-Jan-2009 03:15:54] **daans> anyone here that could give some help with transforms (event management)?
[14-Jan-2009 03:16:22] **daans> When I add a transfor to an event class do I need to restart a sevice to become active?
[14-Jan-2009 03:16:30] **daans> sevice=service
[14-Jan-2009 03:46:43] **c0nfl|ct> bom dia mundo
[14-Jan-2009 04:00:04] **nemo_> bom dia amigos
[14-Jan-2009 06:49:25] **nemo_> daans, no restart needed
[14-Jan-2009 06:49:32] **nemo_> where are you adding the transform ?
[14-Jan-2009 06:49:44] **nemo_> do it on the device class level, not the event class
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:13] **nemo_> i am trying to call self.renameDevice('string')
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:14] **daans> hm ok....
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:28] **nemo_> but it doesnt seem to like having the same name, just lower cased
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:32] **nemo_> any tips?
[14-Jan-2009 06:50:38] **nemo_> i need them all lower case
[14-Jan-2009 06:52:00] **daans> I added one in the even class...
[14-Jan-2009 06:52:44] **nemo_> how are you adding one, while your mapping events ?
[14-Jan-2009 06:56:36] **daans> I'm just start working with the events.... What I'm trying to achieve that events of level debugging of devices in a certain location get another level
[14-Jan-2009 06:57:24] **daans> So I added a mapping, but i don't know what eventclass key to use to map internal generated events (from zenperfsnmp)
[14-Jan-2009 06:58:32] **daans> so in /perf/snmp i clicked o nthe trinagle to open the menu -> more -> transform and let them change the eventclasskey
[14-Jan-2009 06:59:20] **daans> so I could use the mapping with a certain eventclasskey
[14-Jan-2009 07:01:05] **daans> at least thats how I understood it worked...
[14-Jan-2009 07:04:16] **nemo_> well its kinda hard to debug what your doing without seeing it
[14-Jan-2009 07:04:34] **nemo_> transforms are working ok for me, done in a similar way to how you explain it
[14-Jan-2009 07:04:43] **nemo_> what does your logs tell you
[14-Jan-2009 07:10:43] **daans> what log file do i need to look to
[14-Jan-2009 07:13:16] **daans> hub log file?
[14-Jan-2009 07:24:22] **nemo_> grep em all why dont ya
[14-Jan-2009 07:52:34] **nemo_> how can i lower case names in the zenoss db
[14-Jan-2009 07:52:42] **nemo_> anyone dealt with that?
[14-Jan-2009 08:43:45] **daans> The transforms are working now... Now I struggeling with the event mappings..
[14-Jan-2009 08:43:58] **daans> when i have a mapping with a transform
[14-Jan-2009 08:44:27] **daans> when is this performed? When the events is stored?
[14-Jan-2009 08:45:12] **nemo_> an event is transformed and then enters the db, afaik
[14-Jan-2009 08:51:06] **daans> ok
[14-Jan-2009 08:51:45] **daans> thnx. Is there a way to test the correctness of a Rule in a mapping...
[14-Jan-2009 09:02:37] **nemo_> tail the zenhub.log
[14-Jan-2009 09:02:44] **nemo_> look for them coming through
[14-Jan-2009 09:03:02] **daans> ok....
[14-Jan-2009 09:05:50] **daans> what logging level do I need to see them? I genererated an event, but nothing happen in the log file
[14-Jan-2009 09:07:17] **nemo_> i usually go for 10
[14-Jan-2009 10:00:44] **daans> nemo_ thnx for the help so far....
[14-Jan-2009 10:01:03] **daans> I getting there were I want
[14-Jan-2009 10:02:00] **daans> one final question.. Now I want to add an event command, however that command should be executed on a collector and not on the hub....
[14-Jan-2009 10:03:25] **nemo_> the hub is the focal point for ALL events, regardless of which collector they come from
[14-Jan-2009 10:03:46] **nemo_> make sure your daemons on the collector are sending to the right hubhost
[14-Jan-2009 10:07:27] **daans> ok... But I want a command to be performed on certain events.
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:15] **daans> however this command has to be executed on the hub were the event oiginated from
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:33] **nemo_> there is only one hub
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:41] **daans> true
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:41] **nemo_> i dont see where you can be confused
[14-Jan-2009 10:08:57] **nemo_> events originate at collectors
[14-Jan-2009 10:09:03] **nemo_> which are grouped at hubs
[14-Jan-2009 10:09:49] **daans> yes... and based on events from an event a device that is monitoerd by the collector I want to remodel the device
[14-Jan-2009 10:10:38] **daans> zo in event manager I created an event command
[14-Jan-2009 10:12:02] **daans> zo = so
[14-Jan-2009 10:12:40] **daans> but how do I start a remodel of a certain device (that can only be reached from the collector)
[14-Jan-2009 10:13:54] **daans> zenmodeler -d $device does not work, because than the modeling is started at the hub an not on the collector
[14-Jan-2009 10:25:50] **daans> nemo_ thanks for the help today....
[14-Jan-2009 11:08:52] **rhett_> ladies
[14-Jan-2009 11:09:05] **rhett_>
wrong window AGAIN[14-Jan-2009 11:29:53] **IoNu|z> anone know where /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/zenoss/plugins/common.py got moved to?
[14-Jan-2009 13:11:55] **IoNu|z> anone know where /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/zenoss/plugins/common.py got moved to?
[14-Jan-2009 13:13:30] **rhett_> did you try an 'updatedb' and then a 'locate common.py' ?
[14-Jan-2009 13:48:52] **IoNu|z> yes
[14-Jan-2009 13:49:05] **IoNu|z> and i cant find the file that contains the stuff that i need
[14-Jan-2009 14:03:11] **gem-in-eye> Does anyone know how to get the URL's in emails to be valid and not http://localhost.localdomain:8080? The forums have been a runaround for me.
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[14-Jan-2009 14:12:28] **gem-in-eye> Does anyone know how to get the URL's in emails to be valid and not use localhost.localdomain at the servers hostname? The forums have been a runaround for me.
[14-Jan-2009 14:15:41] **teletype> has anyone been able to get zenoss to monitor a windows server via WMI without using an administrator account?
[14-Jan-2009 14:16:11] **teletype> i added perms in dcomcnfg and wmimgmt.msc, no dice...
[14-Jan-2009 14:50:17] **IoNu|z> teletype i can only get everything with credentials
[14-Jan-2009 14:52:38] **teletype> i think i figured it out
[14-Jan-2009 14:52:41] **teletype> will know in a sec
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:00] **teletype> yup!
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:53] **teletype> had to create a 'zenoss' user, add them to the 'Distributed COM Users' and 'Performance Log Users' group, that gave the account access to everything but the Service manager. to do that i had to do:
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:59] **teletype> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>sc sdset SCMANAGER D:(A;;CCLCRPRC;;;AU)(
[14-Jan-2009 14:54:59] **teletype> A;;CCLCRPWPRC;;;SY)(A;;KA;;;BA)S:(AU;FA;KA;;;WD)(AU;OIIOFA;GA;;;WD)
[14-Jan-2009 14:55:00] **teletype> [SC] SetServiceObjectSecurity SUCCESS
[14-Jan-2009 16:51:27] **operat0r> Hello all
[14-Jan-2009 16:52:16] **rhett_> hello
[14-Jan-2009 16:53:53] **operat0r> I load up using zenmib all CPQ*.mib ok and the OID's are in the mibs loaded but I still get .#.#.#.# at the end when it should be FanFailBlalalETc
[14-Jan-2009 16:54:17] **operat0r> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=30025 is my post
[14-Jan-2009 16:54:25] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - mibs on multi devices still not resolving to names (at forums.zenoss.com)
[14-Jan-2009 17:18:34] **operat0r> posted a screen shot
[14-Jan-2009 17:28:37] **gem-in-eye> Anyone familiar with WMI?
[14-Jan-2009 17:35:28] **loflika> what you trying to do gem-in-eye
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:04] **gem-in-eye> I've got a domain account and I'm logging into Windows boxes okay. It's collection service info but none of the physical data like network, disks, or CPU.
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:21] **gem-in-eye> My OS tab is completly empty
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:30] **loflika> hm
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:40] **loflika> i have mine running with SNMP and WMI
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:45] **loflika> im not sure if you can just run WMI to get that info
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:56] **loflika> snmp is super easy to set up
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:56] **loflika> since it comes native
[14-Jan-2009 17:36:59] **loflika> just set up a group and go
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:05] **loflika> in SNMP Service
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:08] **gem-in-eye> I'm getting data on the boxes that run SNMP, but I don't manage the servers and I've been told to use WMI since it's already active.
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:18] **loflika> hmm
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:24] **loflika> im not sure how to use WMI to get that data
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:28] **loflika> i havent tried
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:31] **loflika> since im running snmp and
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:34] **loflika> SNMPv2
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:37] **loflika> and WMI
[14-Jan-2009 17:37:46] **gem-in-eye> We have someone using PRTG and he's getting all the info through WMI.
[14-Jan-2009 17:46:27] **loflika> interesting
[14-Jan-2009 17:46:30] **loflika> im going to have to check it out
[14-Jan-2009 17:46:33] **loflika> its got to be scripted
[14-Jan-2009 18:17:34] **gem-in-eye> I figured it out. The PRTG my other guy has IS using WMI and SNMP. Someone set it up and didn't tell the Windows admin.
[14-Jan-2009 18:18:07] **gem-in-eye> Unfortunately even when I put in the same community string and version, SNMP is still failing.
[14-Jan-2009 18:23:08] **loflika> hah
[14-Jan-2009 18:23:11] **loflika> makes sense now
[14-Jan-2009 18:23:42] **gem-in-eye> Yeah, but why snmp doesn't work from zenoss doesn't make sense. It works on all my unix boxes, just not some windows
[14-Jan-2009 18:27:06] **gem-in-eye> Ok, perhaps I should actually look at my screen before I assume I know what it says. I can't connect to the SNMP agents because someone turned them off. No data has been collected since Monday.
[14-Jan-2009 18:27:37] **gem-in-eye> Is SNMPv2c backward compatible with v1?
[14-Jan-2009 18:27:47] **loflika> not exactly
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:06] **loflika> because you restrict snmpv2 to allow only a certain ip / networks
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:15] **loflika> so the two are quite different
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:21] **loflika> now
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:24] **loflika> SNMP itself
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:28] **loflika> on unix
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:29] **loflika> can do v3
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:31] **loflika> v2c
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:32] **loflika> and 1
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:37] **loflika> so it is backwards compatible
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:43] **loflika> but they require a whole different set of configs
[14-Jan-2009 18:28:47] **loflika> that differ from just v1
[14-Jan-2009 18:41:54] **gem-in-eye> Where do the mibs go? I'm moving from the VM to an installed stack but the location the instructions talk about doesn't exist.
[14-Jan-2009 19:05:04] **gem-in-eye> Found it. Things change too often.
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[15-Jan-2009 03:22:58] **c0nfl|ct> bom dia
[15-Jan-2009 03:27:57] **daans> good morning...
[15-Jan-2009 03:30:19] **daans> how can I initiate a remodel action (preferable via de command prompt, or with som lines ofpython) on a device that is monitored by a "remote" collector?
[15-Jan-2009 03:40:06] **daans> found the answer on the wiki!
[15-Jan-2009 03:40:18] **daans> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/model-a-device/
[15-Jan-2009 03:40:33] **adytum-bot> Title: Model A Device - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2009 07:46:46] **izabel> hi everybody! could you help me with REST call? How can I insert to the device properties the google map coordinates(Street and bulding number)? Is it possible? I need to insert for about 2000 devices with wget.
[15-Jan-2009 08:50:35] **nemo_> whos upgraded to 2.3.2 ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:50:41] **nemo_> imma do it this weekend
[15-Jan-2009 08:52:13] **jmp242> I haven't
[15-Jan-2009 08:52:17] **jmp242> I'm waiting for 2.3.3
[15-Jan-2009 08:54:10] **nemo_> any reason jmp242 ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:54:14] **nemo_> should i wait also
[15-Jan-2009 08:54:43] **nemo_> i was avoiding 2.3.0
[15-Jan-2009 08:55:44] **jmp242> Well, there still seemed to be a bunch of regressions and reports with 2.3.2 in the forums
[15-Jan-2009 08:55:57] **jmp242> I've seen several posts on things being fixed for the next maintenence release
[15-Jan-2009 08:56:21] **jmp242> I've found waiting for x.x.3 or higher seems prudent for me, I don't have time to be a beta tester right now
[15-Jan-2009 08:56:46] **kim0> Hi everyone, can zenoss core do service dependencies .. so that if my VMware ESX server fails .. I don't get a lot of warnings per each VM ?!
[15-Jan-2009 08:56:58] **nemo_> jmp242, same same
[15-Jan-2009 08:57:05] **nemo_> any idea when 2.3.3 is out ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:57:32] **jmp242> sadly no
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:02] **nemo_> i have to make appointments for changes
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:08] **nemo_> approval etc
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:20] **kim0> service dependencies possible ??
[15-Jan-2009 08:58:58] **nemo_> kim0, afaik its about network topology and read also in the admin guide how to make a dependancy manually
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:39] **kim0> nemo_: I know zenoss handles network deps automatically .. but r u sure I can set arbitrary deps ?
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:44] **kim0> never seen that before
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:46] **nemo_> yes
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:48] **nemo_> google on it
[15-Jan-2009 08:59:55] **adytum-bot> nemo_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[15-Jan-2009 09:00:00] **kim0> hmm ... ok googling
[15-Jan-2009 09:00:47] **nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-manual-device-dependencys
[15-Jan-2009 09:01:07] **adytum-bot> Title: Create manual device dependencies - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2009 09:01:52] **Faust-C> has anyone gotten more info on the VMwareESX-Virtual Machines plugin?
[15-Jan-2009 09:02:30] **nemo_> didnt seem to work for me Faust-C
[15-Jan-2009 09:02:44] **nemo_> so i left it for a while. no help for you, sorry
[15-Jan-2009 09:03:06] **Faust-C> nemo_: yeha i thought so
[15-Jan-2009 09:03:26] **Faust-C> i wish i knew more so i could contribute
[15-Jan-2009 15:35:34] **gem-in-eye> Has anyone had problems loading the SNMPv2-TC mib?
[15-Jan-2009 21:07:55] **operat0r> gem-in-eye:
[15-Jan-2009 21:08:00] **operat0r> you there ?
[15-Jan-2009 21:08:40] **operat0r> pastebin.ca the full log of when you ran zemmib im having issues with mibs resolving
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[16-Jan-2009 03:51:48] **gem-in-eye> operat0r, you there?
[16-Jan-2009 03:53:19] **gem-in-eye> It turned out my problem was the SMIPATH variable wasn't set. After I exported it the mib loaded without issue.
[16-Jan-2009 03:55:18] **nemo_> interesting
[16-Jan-2009 08:09:31] **klinstifen> Morning all
[16-Jan-2009 08:09:47] **klinstifen> anyone worked with zenmail and zenpop?
[16-Jan-2009 08:32:47] **klinstifen> Is anyone using zenpop3 to ack events that are emailed to them?
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:28] **Cosmin> anyone online here?
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:32] **Cosmin> zenplugin.py apache-ssl
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:32] **Cosmin> collector 'apache-ssl' doesn't exist on platform 'linux2'
[16-Jan-2009 08:38:44] **Cosmin> did anybody see this before?
[16-Jan-2009 08:43:49] **socheesome> I have a question for the community, we develop trading distributing environment and we are building monitor and governance functionalities
[16-Jan-2009 08:44:09] **klinstifen> so my zenpop3...events are getting created when i send test emails. But to ack an existing event will an event transform do the trick or will i need to approach it from a diff angle?
[16-Jan-2009 08:44:23] **socheesome> do you think zenoss can provide a valid monitor environment for our applications ?
[16-Jan-2009 08:53:18] **jmp242> socheesome: well it depends - it's open source, so with work you can probably make it monitor anything
[16-Jan-2009 09:28:06] **klinstifen> I think I have this zenpop3 thing figure out
[16-Jan-2009 09:28:52] **Cosmin> good job klinstifen
[16-Jan-2009 09:30:56] **klinstifen> It'll be great when it works...no more manual ack'ing
[16-Jan-2009 09:31:34] **RUMMY> Hi there
[16-Jan-2009 09:31:38] **RUMMY> is zenoss free?
[16-Jan-2009 09:32:31] **klinstifen> The community version is
[16-Jan-2009 09:36:12] **perr0> zenoss core is called
[16-Jan-2009 09:37:57] **klinstifen> yeah the core (community) version is free
[16-Jan-2009 09:38:59] **socheesome> jmp242 do you know any alterative or company is using zenoss for application platform monitoring ?
[16-Jan-2009 09:44:37] **perr0> alternative to zenoss?
[16-Jan-2009 09:48:35] **perr0> socheesome: is that your question?
[16-Jan-2009 09:48:43] **jmp242> I'm not sure what application platform monitoring is?
[16-Jan-2009 09:48:54] **jmp242> I'm using it to monitor servers etc...
[16-Jan-2009 09:49:09] **jmp242> I know users on the forums are using it to monitor temp sensors, UPSs etc
[16-Jan-2009 09:51:07] **teletype> we're using it to monitor the health of applications written inhouse
[16-Jan-2009 10:02:35] **daMaestro> anyone know what to do to force zenoss to re-create RRDs for a given device?
[16-Jan-2009 10:02:51] **daMaestro> aka.. in the case that an RRD is accidentally deleted
[16-Jan-2009 10:05:14] **jmp242> no - it generally will recreate them automatically I thought - maybe delete .pickle files?
[16-Jan-2009 10:06:09] **perr0> daMaestro: I've read that when an image fails they delete them and recreate them perhaps if you deleted it you can remodel the device to recreate that image
[16-Jan-2009 10:06:44] **perr0> I am not 100% sure I wish I knew but that makes most sense to me. Have you tried that
[16-Jan-2009 10:06:53] **daMaestro> perr0, we have tried re-modeling
[16-Jan-2009 10:07:28] **perr0> have you browsed the forums?
[16-Jan-2009 10:07:49] **daMaestro> though, zenmodeler and zenperf heartbeats are failing
[16-Jan-2009 10:07:56] **daMaestro> even though a manual re-model works
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:00] **daMaestro> yes, i have
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:13] **perr0> do you know why they're failing?
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:21] **daMaestro> where can i look to find out
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:26] **perr0> have you tried restarting them
[16-Jan-2009 10:08:29] **daMaestro> yes
[16-Jan-2009 10:09:02] **jmp242> check their log files
[16-Jan-2009 10:09:19] **perr0> $ZENOSS_HOME/zenoss/logs
[16-Jan-2009 10:09:41] **perr0> try zenevent.log
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:09] **klinstifen> daMaestro, after you delet the rrds zenoss will recreate them once enough data has been acquired
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:19] **daMaestro> it's not, though
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:34] **daMaestro> i've tested the full data point definitions
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:40] **daMaestro> this is for a custom template, btw
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:41] **klinstifen> are the graphs part of a custom template?
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:46] **daMaestro> yes
[16-Jan-2009 10:10:57] **klinstifen> have you run zentestcommand -v 10?
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:03] **daMaestro> i tried unbinding and re-binding the template
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:14] **klinstifen> or rather zencommand run -v10 on your device with that template?
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:30] **klinstifen> if you run that you might find if it is having trouble with the template itself
[16-Jan-2009 10:11:35] **klinstifen> command or snmp datapoint?
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:32] **daMaestro> snmp oid
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:47] **daMaestro> it works with other devices, and i have tested each data point against the deivce
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:49] **daMaestro> device*
[16-Jan-2009 10:12:55] **daMaestro> both through zenoss and via snmpwalk
[16-Jan-2009 10:14:11] **daMaestro> zencommand looks fine, hold on
[16-Jan-2009 10:14:50] **daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/1547
[16-Jan-2009 10:14:57] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #1547 (at fpaste.org)
[16-Jan-2009 10:17:07] **daMaestro> [zenoss@bplnms001 bin]$ zencheckrrd -h
[16-Jan-2009 10:17:07] **daMaestro> find: perf/lost+found: Permission denied
[16-Jan-2009 10:22:12] **daMaestro> k, the find is fine; but it still didn't cause the rrds to be created
[16-Jan-2009 10:28:42] **daMaestro> what's even more odd is that some of the data points do work for this device
[16-Jan-2009 10:34:20] **klinstifen> hmm
[16-Jan-2009 10:35:19] **klinstifen> does the rrd get recreated?
[16-Jan-2009 10:35:27] **klinstifen> when you run zencommand run -v10 on the device?
[16-Jan-2009 10:36:49] **daMaestro> no, it does not
[16-Jan-2009 10:37:04] **klinstifen> err try running zencommand run -v10 -d thedevice --data-source=thedatasource
[16-Jan-2009 10:38:20] **daMaestro> klinstifen, thank you very much for the help. we are going to just rewrite the snmp agent extend that we are polling. and start from scratch on the template
[16-Jan-2009 10:38:35] **daMaestro> klinstifen, with regards to the rrds not being recreated... that sucks but we are going to re-do the template
[16-Jan-2009 10:38:36] **klinstifen> ok
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:08] **daMaestro> klinstifen, the net-snmp extend for show status between mysql 4 and mysql 5 oid mappings are different
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:15] **klinstifen> meh, sometimes starting from scratch can be quicker than troubleshooting anyway
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:39] **klinstifen> gl
[16-Jan-2009 10:39:43] **daMaestro> thanks
[16-Jan-2009 10:44:31] **daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/1552 ... how do i find what devices are erroring?
[16-Jan-2009 10:44:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #1552 (at fpaste.org)
[16-Jan-2009 11:04:29] **BroncoBuster> Is there a work around for pinging internet sites to get the line to show up?
[16-Jan-2009 11:08:50] **klinstifen> daMaestro, zenperfsnmp run -v10
[16-Jan-2009 11:08:59] **klinstifen> might want to pipe that to a file and grep afterwords
[16-Jan-2009 11:09:15] **daMaestro> BroncoBuster, ?
[16-Jan-2009 11:09:16] **klinstifen> mine was for only 28 devices and it was pages of data
[16-Jan-2009 11:09:59] **daMaestro> nice.. and it uses stderr
[16-Jan-2009 11:11:05] **klinstifen> broncobuster, what line are you referring to?
[16-Jan-2009 11:11:29] **BroncoBuster> Well, I have 2 different zenoss setups and they both do the same thing. I'm assuming because there is not directly connected network between the two that it wont draw the line on the google map to that site
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:05] **klinstifen> are they connected at all like through a vpn?
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:25] **BroncoBuster> no they are not
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:40] **klinstifen> hmm, then you might need to create a "fake
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:43] **klinstifen> " subnet
[16-Jan-2009 11:12:59] **klinstifen> and then manually add a route to those devices so they are on the "fake" subnet
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:05] **klinstifen> there is a forum post about it
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:27] **BroncoBuster> I thought about that, I couldnt' get it to work though. I'll have to find that post then
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:32] **klinstifen> a recent one
[16-Jan-2009 11:13:34] **klinstifen> lemme look
[16-Jan-2009 11:16:48] **klinstifen> found it
[16-Jan-2009 11:16:54] **klinstifen> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6761
[16-Jan-2009 11:17:01] **klinstifen> look at the comment by fdeckert
[16-Jan-2009 11:17:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Cool tool: Check your layer3 deps (at forums.zenoss.com)
[16-Jan-2009 11:17:37] **klinstifen> what he did is a summary of an entire other post regarding what you want to do
[16-Jan-2009 11:18:09] **klinstifen> it's the last comment on page 1
[16-Jan-2009 11:29:55] **raw__> hey guys, I'm trying to load a set of Cisco MIBS in to Zenoss, I've finally gotten to the point where I'm down to the very last MIB (finally managed to get all other 1127 MIBS loaded)...
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:06] **raw__> I keep getting the following error when trying to load it...
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:12] **raw__> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Failed to load mib: ./SNMPv2-TC-v1.my
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:12] **raw__> ERROR:zen.zenmib:Error: ./SNMPv2-TC-v1.my:11: identifier `TimeTicks' cannot be imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI-v1'
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:12] **raw__> ./SNMPv2-TC-v1.my:613: unknown type `TimeTicks'
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:13] **raw__> Segmentation fault
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:42] **raw__> I checked in the SNMPv2-SMI-v1 MIB file and there is absolutely no reference to TimeTicks, yet
[16-Jan-2009 11:30:58] **raw__> yet SNMPv2-TC-v1 is trying to export TimeTicks from that file
[16-Jan-2009 11:31:06] **raw__> any thoughts on how to work around this?
[16-Jan-2009 11:34:51] **BroncoBuster> thank you klinstifen. I haven't looked at it yet, but thanks
[16-Jan-2009 11:34:55] **BroncoBuster> brb
[16-Jan-2009 11:35:20] **klinstifen> raw_ is that a line reference (:11:) in that error? what's on line 11 of the file?
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:02] **raw__> here are the 3 lines leading up to and including line 11
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:11] **raw__> ...
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:17] **raw__> IMPORTS
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:19] **raw__> TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:23] **raw__> FROM SNMPv2-SMI-v1;
[16-Jan-2009 11:36:49] **raw__> and yes, that is a line reference
[16-Jan-2009 11:37:09] **raw__> but if I go in to the SNMPv2-SMI-v1 MIBS file, there is no referenced to TimeTicks at all
[16-Jan-2009 11:38:09] **raw__> so I'm pretty much stumped at this point
[16-Jan-2009 11:38:57] **klinstifen> Have you tried to download the mib from another source
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:13] **klinstifen> maybe this one is formatted wrong if it is referencing something that doesn't exist
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:17] **raw__> well, these are official Cisco MIBS, and I grabbed them right off the Cisco site, but no, I have not
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:24] **klinstifen> right...
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:40] **klinstifen> heh, well you could always take out the three lines. i bet it will import that way ; )
[16-Jan-2009 11:39:59] **raw__> no doubt, but then I won't have all of the MIBS I need
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:23] **raw__> this is for a Zenoss setup that is going to be doing corporate monitoring, so it needs to work properly
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:36] **klinstifen> well it sounds like the problem is with the mibs
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:42] **raw__> yeh
[16-Jan-2009 11:40:49] **klinstifen> not necessarily zenoss : /
[16-Jan-2009 11:41:15] **raw__> yeh, I know the problem isn't with Zenoss, just figured that maybe some people in here might have some advanced experience with MIBS or something
[16-Jan-2009 11:41:43] **klinstifen> the only similar problems i had were resolved when i found a different version of the mib
[16-Jan-2009 11:41:59] **klinstifen> i was grabbing sonicwall mibs and there are different versions on the oid/mib sites
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:04] **raw__> ah
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:12] **klinstifen> a combination of them got all the oids i needed
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:41] **raw__> well, these 2 MIBS are the same version and dated the same day
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:43] **klinstifen> what cisco device are you working with?
[16-Jan-2009 11:42:43] **raw__> which is weird
[16-Jan-2009 11:43:26] **raw__> We are going to be providing monitoring solutions for clients, so we need to be prepared to monitor basically any device
[16-Jan-2009 11:43:50] **raw__> hence why I need every possible MIB loaded
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:32] **klinstifen> i think i found your mib and this one doesn't have that Import line
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:40] **raw__> oh?
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:41] **raw__> link?
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:54] **klinstifen> snmpv2-smi-v1, right?
[16-Jan-2009 11:45:59] **raw__> correcto
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:26] **klinstifen> http://www.mibdepot.com/cgi-bin/vendor_index.cgi?r=cisco
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:37] **klinstifen> then look for the snmpv2-smi-v1
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:41] **adytum-bot> Title: mibDepot.com - Vendor MIBs (at www.mibdepot.com)
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:43] **klinstifen> click on the text viewing mode
[16-Jan-2009 11:46:51] **raw__> cool, thanks, I'll check it out
[16-Jan-2009 11:48:32] **raw__> I'm moving all these mibs to a subfolder first since it's getting a bit messy having them all laying in the root
[16-Jan-2009 11:51:27] **klinstifen> anyone work with zenpop3?
[16-Jan-2009 11:52:08] **klinstifen> for me zenpop3 generates an event but there is not eventClasskey
[16-Jan-2009 11:52:14] **klinstifen> so I can't map it
[16-Jan-2009 11:52:29] **klinstifen> and make a transform
[16-Jan-2009 11:53:34] **raw__> haven't worked with that yet unfortunately
[16-Jan-2009 12:44:18] **raw__> if I load mibs to a subfolder and then re-run zenmib on them it won't reload all of them again back in to the root right?
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:24] **raw__> ah, you actually found a version of the file that it's complaining about
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:29] **raw__> not of the file doing the complaining
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:34] **raw__> and it's the same version that I have
[16-Jan-2009 12:58:41] **raw__> the file that's doing the complaining is SNMPv2-TC-v1
[16-Jan-2009 13:07:01] **klinstifen> ah ok
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:13] **raw__> root@lab01:~/mibs/mixed# cat SNMPv2* | grep TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> TimeTicks, Counter32, snmpModules, mib-2
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> SYNTAX TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> -- Rsyntax TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> ObjectSyntax, TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:14] **raw__> SYNTAX TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:16] **raw__> TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:18] **raw__> TimeStamp ::= TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:20] **raw__> TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:22] **raw__> TimeStamp ::= TimeTicks
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:26] **raw__> there's nothing in any of the mibs files that would define what TimeTicks is
[16-Jan-2009 13:13:46] **raw__> so the import is basically useless, but if the MIB doesn't get the value for TimeTicks then it's useless
[16-Jan-2009 13:15:25] **raw__> maybe I can just remove those import lines, since a lot of other files reference TimeTicks without doing an import of any kind
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:08] **raw__> hmmm, in another file:
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:10] **raw__> IMPORTS
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:10] **raw__> TimeTicks, IpAddress, Counter, Gauge, enterprises
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:11] **raw__> FROM RFC1155-SMI
[16-Jan-2009 13:19:22] **raw__> maybe I can just substitute that in
[16-Jan-2009 13:20:21] **teletype> timeticks are really annoying
[16-Jan-2009 13:20:34] **raw__> that did it
[16-Jan-2009 13:20:47] **raw__> hopefully it didn't screw anything up, but it's loaded
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:16] **klinstifen> I doubt it will screw anything up
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:25] **klinstifen> if anything if you end up using something that requires a timetick
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:42] **klinstifen> then maybe it won't read it or no how to translate it
[16-Jan-2009 13:21:52] **klinstifen> may turn out that you don't even need that value
[16-Jan-2009 13:22:12] **klinstifen> *know how to translate it
[16-Jan-2009 13:22:54] **klinstifen> anyone know if you can reference other python scripts when doing a transform?
[16-Jan-2009 13:24:13] **teletype> IIRC timeticks are 100ths of a second since the snmp agent was started
[16-Jan-2009 13:26:04] **raw__> I already got it to load
[16-Jan-2009 13:26:43] **raw__> edited the import line to pull the value from RFC1155-SMI instead
[16-Jan-2009 13:26:46] **raw__> and it worked
[16-Jan-2009 13:27:06] **raw__> oops, ignore that
[16-Jan-2009 13:27:19] **raw__> meant to type that in a different window, wasn't paying attention
[16-Jan-2009 13:33:20] **rhett_> i do that all the time
[16-Jan-2009 15:02:22] **raw__> well, now that all the MIBS are loaded I get to have fun on Monday trying to create templates
[16-Jan-2009 15:10:37] **Cosmin> thats always fun raw__
[16-Jan-2009 15:10:39] **Cosmin> ::)
[16-Jan-2009 15:46:19] **raw__> yup
[16-Jan-2009 15:47:58] **raw__> we have a test lab environment setup, so I need to at least get the test switches, routers, and servers monitored and then go from there
[16-Jan-2009 15:50:41] **raw__> by the way, as long as I have the MIBS loaded in to Zenoss it should automatically translate any snmp traps that are received right?
[16-Jan-2009 15:50:52] **raw__> I don't have to actually define what traps to look for for each device, or do I?
[16-Jan-2009 15:51:25] **raw__> (this is my first time setting up and using Zenoss, I read through the admin guide and kind of got thrown in to this, sink or swim)
[16-Jan-2009 16:01:13] **rhett> raw__: all you should (that i recall) have to define is the trap class
[16-Jan-2009 16:02:58] **raw__> what's an example of a trap class? like, I have all of the Cisco MIBs sitting under a subfolder called Cisco, then they each have a name like AIRESPACE-REF-MIB, then under that they have the nodes like airespace 1.3.6.1.4.1.14179 node
[16-Jan-2009 16:03:59] **raw__> and where would I define the trap class?
[16-Jan-2009 16:09:55] **rhett> they way i have always done is once the trap have been recieved you go to the event(trap) select it and map it to the appropriate class
[16-Jan-2009 16:10:22] **rhett> u can also to the /Events/ and go to the lcass you wish to add the trap too if you know what you want to add
[16-Jan-2009 16:10:43] **rhett> then go to the menu for 'EventClass Mappings' and select 'Add Mapping'
[16-Jan-2009 16:12:10] **rhett> once the appropriate mapping is made you can navigate to that (i.e. /Events/Security/wgAlarmTrap) and select the zProperties tab and assign the 'zEventAction' and 'zEventSeverity'
[16-Jan-2009 16:17:28] **ckrough> anyone know where 2.3.2 would log zenpack export failureS?
[16-Jan-2009 16:42:44] **raw__> rhett: thanks, that clears it up, I'll try that with some events on monday, but my question really was whether or not it would translate the trap with the name of the event rather than spitting out the OID string in the event console
[16-Jan-2009 16:43:25] **rhett> yes it will
[16-Jan-2009 16:43:44] **raw__> and it'll do that before the categorization is done correct?
[16-Jan-2009 16:44:44] **raw__> before you've assigned that event to an event class I mean
[16-Jan-2009 16:48:23] **rhett> yes
[16-Jan-2009 16:48:30] **raw__> k, thanks
[16-Jan-2009 16:50:49] **raw__> well, I'm off, thanks for the help guys
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[17-Jan-2009 12:12:21] **timholum> hello, i am having problems setting up my first zenoss server, i got it to install fine, but now i am having problems getting it to access wmi on my windows system's.
[17-Jan-2009 12:16:09] **timholum> my system's have wmi installed and if i am sshed in and su to zenoss. the wmic -U user%password //hostname "select * from Win32_ComputerSystem" retreaves information so it is no my windows systems. and if i go to Devices -> zPropertys i put in my zWinPassword and zWinUser the same as the user%password? any reson why its not working?
[17-Jan-2009 12:21:26] **timholum> hello anyone?
[17-Jan-2009 12:29:11] **timholum> Is anyone listening here?
[17-Jan-2009 13:12:17] **timholum> Hello, Is anyone hear?
[17-Jan-2009 13:32:07] **Traveler5> hello
[17-Jan-2009 13:37:29] **TexMex43743> adytum-bot baffle bzed CamargoBP charleS cy_` Gecho gem-in-eye huggie jamesturnbull jb jetole jiffe88 ke44qqq kevin7kal krphop loflika magnachef malbon_ mf2hd monrad nemo2 nemo_ nonsenso NoxIn- npmccallum operat0r phrost6 Quadro rhett Spec teletype timholum troy xkev Yotus zenoss-logger. Does anyone if there is a website where i can get more zenpack's
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[17-Jan-2009 13:38:50] **timholum> TexMex43743: You could go to http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/
[17-Jan-2009 13:39:04] **adytum-bot> Title: ZenPack Project Site - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Jan-2009 13:39:54] **timholum> hello, i am having problems setting up my first zenoss server, i got it to install fine, but now i am having problems getting it to access wmi on my windows system's.
[17-Jan-2009 13:39:57] **timholum> my system's have wmi installed and if i am sshed in and su to zenoss. the wmic -U user%password //hostname "select * from Win32_ComputerSystem" retreaves information so it is no my windows systems. and if i go to Devices -> zPropertys i put in my zWinPassword and zWinUser the same as the user%password? any reson why its not working?
[17-Jan-2009 13:44:55] **npmccallum> timholum: you also have to have modeling plugins setup to use WMI and WMI based templates
[17-Jan-2009 13:46:07] **timholum> how do i do that?
[17-Jan-2009 13:46:14] **timholum> I am very new to zenoss.
[17-Jan-2009 13:48:41] **timholum> I do know that it is trying to access wmi, becoules i have an error "Could not read the Windows services (NT STATUS ACCESS DENIED). ...
[17-Jan-2009 13:49:21] **timholum> npmccallum: I do know that it is trying to access wmi, becoules i have an error "Could not read the Windows services (NT STATUS ACCESS DENIED). ...
[17-Jan-2009 13:50:01] **timholum> is there a good starter video or tutorial on getting started with zenoss?
[17-Jan-2009 13:55:34] **npmccallum> timholum: well, Zenoss offers a training class
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:06] **npmccallum> and if you're going to SCaLE in Feb. I'll be teaching a Zenoss community training class
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:27] **timholum> where is SCaLE located?
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:32] **npmccallum> LA
[17-Jan-2009 13:56:45] **npmccallum> around the corner from LAX airport
[17-Jan-2009 13:57:06] **npmccallum> http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/
[17-Jan-2009 13:57:14] **adytum-bot> Title: Southern California Linux Expo (at scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org)
[17-Jan-2009 13:58:07] **timholum> You should record your class and post it on the net
[17-Jan-2009 14:00:35] **npmccallum> timholum: good idea
[17-Jan-2009 14:06:02] **timholum> npmccallum: I would defenelty be interested in watching it,But if my job brings me to down there in February i will stop buy
[17-Jan-2009 14:06:09] **timholum> *by
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[18-Jan-2009 02:08:01] **jharr> o/
[18-Jan-2009 02:08:04] **jharr> anyone awake?
[18-Jan-2009 02:10:07] **jharr> So I pointed zenoss at a linux box with snmp enabled. Found it just fine, started monitoring it. Except for the network. I see an ethernet /Devices/Csmacdtemplate, is there anyway to apply that to the server in addition to the /Devices/Server/Linux/Device?
[18-Jan-2009 02:10:16] **jharr> or am I going about this in the wrong way?
[18-Jan-2009 02:15:05] **jharr> That, and this I/O graph seems a bit off
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5835/renderpu4.png[18-Jan-2009 02:17:43] **jharr> all pretty much based off of a default install.
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:05] **mepholic> http://pastebin.ca/1311660
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:11] **mepholic> anybody have any idea?
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:13] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 1311660 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jan-2009 10:26:22] **mepholic> this is a freebsd box
[18-Jan-2009 10:27:31] **mepholic> I got the svn
[18-Jan-2009 10:29:02] **jharr> mepholic: You need to install iconv development headers
[18-Jan-2009 10:29:17] **mepholic> thought as much
[18-Jan-2009 10:29:29] **mepholic> lemee look in ports
[18-Jan-2009 10:31:17] **mepholic> jharr, iconv or libiconv?
[18-Jan-2009 10:31:24] **jharr> libiconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:31:49] **jharr> if that doesn't work, try iconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:33:16] **mepholic> hmm
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:15] **mepholic> only config options i see for libiconv are EXTRA_ENCODINGS and EXTRA_PATCHES
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:21] **mepholic> and i dont see a libiconv-dev
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:41] **mepholic> no config options for iconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:34:46] **mepholic> and no iconv-dev
[18-Jan-2009 10:36:07] **mepholic> D:
[18-Jan-2009 10:36:13] **mepholic> really old ports
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:02] **jharr> mepholic: libiconv-dev is usualy the headers that come with iconv. Under the BSD's, they're probably included with libiconv
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:19] **jharr> When you use the ports tree
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:45] **mepholic> I'm not really a regular bsd user
[18-Jan-2009 10:37:50] **jharr> When you use packages, they split them up so people not doing development don't have a lot of headers sitting around they don't use.
[18-Jan-2009 10:38:19] **jharr> But when you install from source (including ports), they're almost always included.
[18-Jan-2009 10:38:57] **mepholic> well
[18-Jan-2009 10:39:04] **mepholic> ports was pretty out of date
[18-Jan-2009 10:39:10] **mepholic> upgrading it right now
[18-Jan-2009 20:57:55] **mepholic> installing: wmi
[18-Jan-2009 20:57:55] **mepholic> gmake: *** [wmi-install] Error 2
[18-Jan-2009 20:57:55] **mepholic> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[18-Jan-2009 20:58:09] **mepholic> about to kill somebody
[18-Jan-2009 21:00:33] **mepholic> http://pastebin.ca/1312200
[18-Jan-2009 21:00:39] **mepholic> anybody have any idea?
[18-Jan-2009 21:00:41] **adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1312200 (at pastebin.ca)
[18-Jan-2009 21:18:39] **timholum> hello everyone
[18-Jan-2009 21:21:14] **timholum> anyone in here?
[18-Jan-2009 21:28:59] **mepholic> yeah
[18-Jan-2009 21:29:21] **mepholic> but
[18-Jan-2009 21:29:21] **mepholic> brb
[18-Jan-2009 21:34:49] **mepholic> back
[18-Jan-2009 21:37:45] **timholum> ok
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[19-Jan-2009 08:29:20] **ke4qqq> npmccallum: zapplet is in Fedora's updates-testing repository atm, and provided I can get a few people to grant some karma should hit updates this week.
[19-Jan-2009 08:29:37] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: great!
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:09] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: I'll hopefully have some time this week in my hotel to work on zapplet more
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:18] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: you'll like the rewrite
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:36] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: basically everything is a plugin, so new features can be added trivially
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:36] **nemo_> upgraded to 2.3.2
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:42] **nemo_> still broken as hell !
[19-Jan-2009 08:30:49] **ke4qqq> good - 0.1 seems to add some significant load to zennoss
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:00] **npmccallum> nemo_: what problem are you having?
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:12] **nemo_> zenhub.log empty
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:18] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: I'm not really sure how to get around the load issue
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:21] **nemo_> events are coming through, but log is broken
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:27] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: unles we limit the number of events returned
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:39] **nemo_> and its slowww
[19-Jan-2009 08:31:56] **npmccallum> nemo_: first of all, what hardware is it running on?
[19-Jan-2009 08:32:20] **ke4qqq> npmccallum: it'd be nice if that was an option, it brings my poor system to it's knees (admittedly there are 60,000 events)
[19-Jan-2009 08:32:21] **nemo_> npmccallum, plenty of free processors and memory
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:03] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: hehe 60k would do it
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:35] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: but seriously, for the health of your system, you might want to get rid of some events
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:50] **nemo_> npmccallum, you mean 60000 live events ?
[19-Jan-2009 08:33:53] **nemo_> not historical
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:02] **npmccallum> yes
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:05] **npmccallum> live events
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:08] **ke4qqq> yeah - the problem is really that I am using it as a syslog server as well - I need to age some of them I suppose
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:10] **nemo_> 60k history shouldnt be an issue, i got millions
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:16] **ke4qqq> more aggressively
[19-Jan-2009 08:34:53] **npmccallum> nemo_: well, thats probably your slowness right there
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:16] **nemo_> npmccallum, in the history ?
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:20] **nemo_> should touch that
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:30] **nemo_> unless you view it , afail
[19-Jan-2009 08:35:32] **nemo_> afaik
[19-Jan-2009 08:36:27] **npmccallum> what is your load on your machine? have you run iotop?
[19-Jan-2009 08:36:59] **nemo_> iotop ?
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:02] **npmccallum> nemo_: the reason 60k events will slow down his machine is because he is using zapplet, which fetches *all* events every few minutes
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:12] **nemo_> ah well
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:16] **npmccallum> http://guichaz.free.fr/iotop/
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:20] **nemo_> i am not doing anything like that
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:23] **adytum-bot> Title: Iotop's homepage (at guichaz.free.fr)
[19-Jan-2009 08:37:37] **shadkianash> hi everyone
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:04] **nemo_> npmccallum, my zenoss has never worked well, i think its something to do with being upgraded since 2.1.3
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:27] **npmccallum> nemo_: that could be
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:30] **nemo_> still lots of weird messages in the logs
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:36] **npmccallum> the 2.1 era was pretty messy
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:38] **nemo_> i think most ppl just dont look at the logs
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:51] **nemo_> conflicts , other BS
[19-Jan-2009 08:38:55] **npmccallum> I just spent a week upgrading a 2.1.1 box to 2.3.2
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:09] **nemo_> i did 2.2.3 to 2.3.2 last night
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:13] **nemo_> it works, but not well.
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:32] **npmccallum> 2.2.3 to 2.3.2 should be smooth
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:35] **nemo_> i had to f&ck around with the external collector, via ssh , editing files
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:43] **npmccallum> its probably junk from 2.1.3 which made it tough
[19-Jan-2009 08:39:45] **nemo_> yeh i read so too, lies
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:07] **nemo_> too many tweaks to give up now
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:09] **npmccallum> I've done probably 20 2.2.x to 2.3.2 upgrades and not had a single problem
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:18] **nemo_> will have to get zenoss support on the case
[19-Jan-2009 08:40:37] **npmccallum> nemo_: that sounds like a good idea
[19-Jan-2009 08:44:26] **shadkianash> hey, i´ve 1 little question... i'm using zenoss to process some snmptraps generated by an app... I´ve configured the event mappings and the transformation rules to showme some information sended in the trap on the summary colunm of the event console... But, some data is cropped because the length of the column... reading the manual of zenoss i saw that zenoss uses python sintax to tranform the content. I´ve no idea about python sintax, but goog
[19-Jan-2009 08:44:33] **shadkianash> (thxs in advance)
[19-Jan-2009 08:47:23] **shadkianash> no one?
[19-Jan-2009 08:48:14] **nemo_> google python syntax
[19-Jan-2009 08:48:20] **adytum-bot> http://codesyntax.netfirms.com/lang-python.htm
[19-Jan-2009 08:48:20] **nemo_> rtfm, sorry !
[19-Jan-2009 08:49:13] **shadkianash> thxs, I´ll google it again...
[19-Jan-2009 08:54:20] **shadkianash> as I said before... I used the "\n" escape char to try to create a CRLF on the summary column, but it doesn't work... this is the code used in the Transform \\\ evt.summary = evt.summary + "\n bla bla" \\\
[19-Jan-2009 08:58:23] **shadkianash> any ideas?
[19-Jan-2009 09:46:11] **teletype> anyone know why zenwin might be getting broken pipes communicating with the watchdog? this is happening every 30 sec or so
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:27] **klinstifen> Morning all
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:33] **teletype> morning
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:35] **timholum> good morning
[19-Jan-2009 09:47:41] **klinstifen> quick question...when working with Event Commands
[19-Jan-2009 09:48:20] **klinstifen> what language is the command written in? I am trying to use some python methods, but my errors look like it is referencing the bash shell syntax
[19-Jan-2009 09:48:41] **teletype> they're shell commands
[19-Jan-2009 09:49:07] **klinstifen> ok
[19-Jan-2009 10:10:08] **baffle_> Hi, I have a few issues I'm not able to find a fix for, anyone here understand what it could be?
[19-Jan-2009 10:11:38] **baffle_> 1. zenmodeller is looping, using 100% CPU and outputting tons of these every second: "Collecting for path /Devices". I've seen a ticket about this, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/4096 but no fix.
[19-Jan-2009 10:13:08] **baffle_> 2. I have some some equpiment where ZenOSS has not created RRD files, I.e. a Cisco device where os/interfaces/GigabitEthernet0_1 to 0_9 is created but not 0_10 to 0_51. 0_52 exists however.. Doing a remodel doesn't help much..
[19-Jan-2009 10:13:58] **baffle_> For these devices I also saw this when upgrading (but the error was there before upgrading): WARNING:zen.DeviceClass:bad path '/zport/dmd/Devices/Network/Switch/Cisco 3560/devices/s5107a.dc.kq.no/os/interfaces/Null0' in index 'componentSearch'
[19-Jan-2009 10:14:23] **baffle_> etc etc. :-)
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[19-Jan-2009 10:17:57] **klinstifen> ok
[19-Jan-2009 10:29:35] **raw__> hey guys, any idea what would cause zenwin, zentrap, zensyslog, zenstatus, zenprocess, zenping, zenperfsnmp, zenmodeler, zenevenlog, and zencommand to all report heartbeat failures in the event log? Functionality doesn't seem to be affected by this, but I still need to fix it somehow.
[19-Jan-2009 10:31:33] **raw__> it just started recently
[19-Jan-2009 10:37:09] **klinstifen> raw, what's the name of the daemon?
[19-Jan-2009 10:39:10] **klinstifen> teletype, i am trying to extract a substring from ${evt/summary}
[19-Jan-2009 10:39:13] **klinstifen> in the event commands
[19-Jan-2009 10:39:52] **klinstifen> shouldn't i be able to use simple bash substr commands/methods?
[19-Jan-2009 10:49:30] **raw__> ah, figured out what it was
[19-Jan-2009 10:49:49] **raw__> we had ziptie bound to 127.0.0.1 and trapping to that address, Zenoss doesn't seem to like that
[19-Jan-2009 11:09:54] **nemo_> wonde3r why
[19-Jan-2009 11:09:56] **nemo_> ':_)
[19-Jan-2009 11:12:30] **shadkianash> hey, i´ve 1 little question... i'm using zenoss to process some snmptraps generated by an app... I´ve configured the event mappings and the transformation rules to showme some information sended in the trap on the summary colunm of the event console... But, some data is cropped because the length of the column... reading the manual of zenoss i saw that zenoss uses python sintax to tranform the content. I´ve no idea about python sintax, but goog
[19-Jan-2009 11:50:32] **teletype> anyone here ever written Net::SNMP agent extensions in Perl?
[19-Jan-2009 11:58:33] **raw__> how do you force the collector to update what it's collecting?
[19-Jan-2009 11:58:41] **raw__> it only seems to update once an hour
[19-Jan-2009 11:59:00] **raw__> I remember there's some way to do it in the admin guide, but I've been skimming through and can't find it
[19-Jan-2009 12:01:53] **nemo2> raw__, used to be a reconfigure collector function
[19-Jan-2009 12:02:08] **nemo2> god knows where that disappeared to ( i just upgraded )
[19-Jan-2009 12:02:25] **raw__> hmmmm
[19-Jan-2009 12:03:37] **raw__> that sucks, right now I'm setting up a new monitoring system, and it's ridiculous having to wait an hour to test something
[19-Jan-2009 12:09:27] **raw__> I know you can push changes to the collectors on a per device basis
[19-Jan-2009 12:09:35] **raw__> but I need to know how to do it for all of them
[19-Jan-2009 12:12:08] **nemo2> config time might be more than an hour
[19-Jan-2009 12:12:27] **nemo2> depends what your testing, you have had a look at collectors -> settings
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:11] **raw__> yeh
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:18] **raw__> which value would I modify?
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:22] **raw__> to speed things up
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:28] **nemo2> i dont know for sure
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:41] **nemo2> but cycle config time ( i am not in front of my zenoss now )
[19-Jan-2009 12:19:56] **raw__> k
[19-Jan-2009 12:31:06] **klinstifen> has anyone used zenackevents in conjunction with Event Commands?
[19-Jan-2009 12:31:31] **klinstifen> i am trying to get a substring (the event id) out of my event summary...so i can pass it to zenackevents
[19-Jan-2009 12:31:39] **klinstifen> but it just won't cooperate
[19-Jan-2009 12:33:09] **klinstifen> anyone see an issue with this statement: zenackevents --evid=`expr substr ${evt/summary} 10 34`
[19-Jan-2009 12:33:19] **klinstifen> that's in the command section of the event command i made
[19-Jan-2009 12:39:00] **ke4qqq> any fedora contributors around?? if so, please login, install and give karma to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zapplet-0.1-4.fc10 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zapplet-0.1-4.fc9 so they can be pushed to the updates repository.
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[19-Jan-2009 13:17:13] **raw__> when I add a device and have zenoss model it it seems to pull the device hostname down from it's host file. When I rename the device I keep getting errors in the event console complaining that a device with the old device name (before I changed it) and the new device name are both using the same IP address
[19-Jan-2009 13:17:24] **raw__> is there any way around this?
[19-Jan-2009 13:17:56] **nemo2> afaik, it pulls it from dns
[19-Jan-2009 13:18:15] **raw__> not possible
[19-Jan-2009 13:18:17] **raw__> don't have it in dns
[19-Jan-2009 13:18:22] **nemo2> oh well
[19-Jan-2009 13:31:34] **raw__> figured it out, it was the hosts file
[19-Jan-2009 13:35:45] **rhett> so you were changing the device name in zenoss but not changing the hosts file?
[19-Jan-2009 14:26:26] **teletype> sweet. just got done writing a Net-SNMP agent extension to populate the hrSWInstalled MIB on debian/ubuntu systems
[19-Jan-2009 14:26:36] **teletype> that had been annoying me
[19-Jan-2009 14:43:57] **klinstifen> can anyone explain to me the difference between an acknowledged event and a supressed event?
[19-Jan-2009 14:46:12] **raw__> rhett: The device that we were adding is the server itself, since we are running a service on it that sends snmp traps to zenoss. The process sending the traps is bound to 30.30.20.10, we had the hostname of the server specified for 30.30.20.10 in the hosts file, so when we changed the name in zenoss, zenoss still saw the device as being the hostname and the the new and interpreted it as 2 conflicting devices
[19-Jan-2009 14:46:34] **raw__> so we changed the line in the hosts file to be 127.0.0.1 instead and it resolved the issue since Zenoss sees 2 seperate ips now
[19-Jan-2009 14:47:20] **raw__> the the new == the new name*
[19-Jan-2009 14:53:03] **klinstifen> sweet got it working...can now acknowledge events via email
[19-Jan-2009 14:53:23] **klinstifen> don't have to login to the console anymore
[19-Jan-2009 16:47:09] **gem-in-eye> I just installed a new core server and gave it snmp and wmi info to collect data but for my windows servers I'm not getting any of the default perf graphs. It says I'm missing the RRD file and under he debug events it says my oid's are bad. Any thoughts?
[19-Jan-2009 16:55:25] **nemo2> how long has it been ?
[19-Jan-2009 16:55:38] **nemo2> allow 1 hr or more depending how many devices you have
[19-Jan-2009 16:57:13] **thehawk> hello all..
[19-Jan-2009 16:57:37] thehawk is now known as hawk98
[19-Jan-2009 16:57:44] **hawk98> hello all..
[19-Jan-2009 16:58:06] **hawk98> I have a quick question ...hopefully you can help me out..
[19-Jan-2009 16:59:47] **hawk98> we need to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.3 however we are concerned that the data for the old graphs will disappear....can you please advise if an upgrade should keep the graphs or if the graphs are blown away and there is nothing we can do about that?
[19-Jan-2009 17:00:20] **hawk98> so the short question is....how can I upgrade the version and keep the old graphs at the same time?
[19-Jan-2009 17:03:48] **kgoedtel> the graph data is all stored in rrd files, i personally haven't upgraded to 2.3 but i wouldn't imagine you would lose anything
[19-Jan-2009 17:12:14] **hawk98> i'm a newb and I haven't done this before...whould it be as simple as copying the rrd files to the new config? the other question being: If I blow away the box and save the RRD files can i just simply restore them into the new config or do I have to import them using some sort of tool?
[19-Jan-2009 17:12:51] **kgoedtel> you are just upgrading in-place correct?
[19-Jan-2009 17:14:43] **hawk98> well...we've had zennoss since version 1.X...and we were thinking of doing a fresh install and then bringing the old data back in...if at all possible..
[19-Jan-2009 17:14:58] **hawk98> we're concerned about the bandwidth graphs that have been generated for the past year for example...
[19-Jan-2009 17:15:49] **hawk98> to correct myself....we've had zenoss since 1.X...we then upgraded to 2.1 and we want to upgrade now to 2.3 but every time we've tried the graphs are not kept....even for in-place upgrade..
[19-Jan-2009 17:16:07] **hawk98> let's assume that we do an in-place upgrade...will that make it simpler?
[19-Jan-2009 17:16:46] **hawk98> is there a document I can read that outlines the upgrade process and/or backup/restore of the graphs?
[19-Jan-2009 17:18:23] **hawk98> or....if we wanted to change the hardware zenoss was on and upgraded to a faster CPU...what's the procedure for taking the graphs/data and move it to the new box so that we can see the old info once the package is installed on the new PC
[19-Jan-2009 18:14:07] **gem-in-eye> nemo2: It's been several days since I added the servers.
[19-Jan-2009 18:44:27] **daMaestro> anyone know how to force recreation of missing rrds?
[19-Jan-2009 18:48:11] **timholum> does anyone have any experiance remotly installing snmp on windows? I tryed the tutorial that zenoss has but it does not work for me
[19-Jan-2009 18:50:07] **timholum> I copyed the i386 to the c:, and added the two registry and pointed them to c:\i386, created the text file for snmp.txt and exicuted sysocmgr /i:%windir%\inf\sysoc.inf /u:\snmp.txt /q
[19-Jan-2009 21:23:34] **gem-in-eye> I have two instances of core running. Both are monitoring the same DNS server. One says the IP Service DNS on port 53 is up, the other says it's down. Both are collecting data through SNMP. Any ideas why they aren't consistant? I'm able to query DNS from both servers running core.
[19-Jan-2009 22:38:18] **phrost> which one in collector performance deals with IpService monitoring intervals?
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[20-Jan-2009 01:42:35] **phrost> having trouble trying to add the powernet mib, zenoss seems to understand it as 1.3.6.1.4.1.318.0.276 for traps where the device is sending '1.3.6.1.4.1.318.276'
[20-Jan-2009 01:42:39] **phrost> all the traps have an extra 0
[20-Jan-2009 03:28:44] **nemo_> anyone had luck using renameDevice?
[20-Jan-2009 03:28:55] **nemo_> i want to decapitalise the names
[20-Jan-2009 04:14:05] **nemo_> zenoss still answer emails?
[20-Jan-2009 04:14:18] **nemo_> the all singing support system doesnt do well with password resets
[20-Jan-2009 04:44:56] **phrost> nemo_: always get an internal error when i try, usually just delete/readd
[20-Jan-2009 04:45:28] **nemo_> yup
[20-Jan-2009 04:45:37] **nemo_> i am getting real tired of it all ...
[20-Jan-2009 04:46:35] **phrost> iirc it spit out some error about file or directory not found , never took the time to try and debug it
[20-Jan-2009 04:46:52] **phrost> but it did promise me it emailed zenoss corp to let them know, lol
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:01] **nemo_> lol
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:26] **nemo_> i am gonna give zenoss one more go *( even tho we paid for ent )
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:32] **nemo_> and then move to something else
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:43] **nemo_> its way too much trouble imho
[20-Jan-2009 04:47:51] **phrost> heh all monitoring systems seem to have quirks
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:04] **nemo_> yeh but zenoss just doesnt work
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:07] **phrost> groundwork randomly craps out on the UI and has the same random fails
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:13] **nemo_> i am getting all sorts of false and bad info
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:14] **phrost> its kinda like windows 95 all over again
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:18] **nemo_> UI is so sucky
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:35] **nemo_> ppl who say it works well just dont know where to find logs
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:38] **nemo_> obviously
[20-Jan-2009 04:48:52] **phrost> it works for me most of the time
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:03] **nemo_> i wanna go for a pure commericial product
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:07] **phrost> i keep getting random snmp agent fail messages, think that might be from network lag
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:13] **nemo_> i hate this open source / community supported / yet paid model
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:30] **phrost> yea you paid for ent and they still won't fix it?
[20-Jan-2009 04:49:46] **nemo_> i dont think it ever worked, i hung on till 2.3.2
[20-Jan-2009 04:51:50] **nemo_> /dev/sda7 487M 317M 145M 69% /var
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:08] **nemo_> zenoss says: /var 3.9GB 341.4MB 3.5GB 8
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:20] **phrost> i did have to go hack the zentrap.py to 'fix' the broken handling of snmp v1 vendor traps for our APC rPDUs
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:26] **phrost> that was annoying
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:46] **nemo_> i have made about 30 scripts to fill in gaps
[20-Jan-2009 04:52:51] **nemo_> but now its getting silly
[20-Jan-2009 04:53:03] **phrost> lol save me the time, what else is broke before i find it
[20-Jan-2009 04:53:19] **phrost> zencommand could use some work, i have an ugly hacked together thing to monitor dell OMSA agents over SNMP
[20-Jan-2009 04:53:20] **nemo_> all of it . abandon ship
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:23] **raw> hey guys, I'm trying to code up my first transform ever, and I almost have it figured out except for one thing...
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:36] **raw> descr = getattr(evt, 'ifDescr', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:38] **raw> evt.summary = 'Link down on %s' % (descr)
[20-Jan-2009 08:38:49] **raw> why is descr not being pulled in to the event summary?
[20-Jan-2009 08:39:03] **raw> when the event shows up in Zenoss all I see is Link down on
[20-Jan-2009 08:39:12] **raw> with no ifDescr value
[20-Jan-2009 08:39:52] sstringham is now known as wassy121
[20-Jan-2009 08:42:11] **therealnemo> cant transform an unknown
[20-Jan-2009 08:42:23] **therealnemo> where are you trying to apply that
[20-Jan-2009 08:42:36] **therealnemo> if its where you map an event, thats the wrong place
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:12] **raw> I'm applying it in the Events section
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:31] **raw> Events/Status/LinkDown/snmpTraps.3
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:47] **raw> I navigate to that, then I click the edit tab
[20-Jan-2009 08:43:52] **raw> and there's a transform field
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:15] **raw> here's the full transform...
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> index = getattr(evt, 'ifIndex', 0)
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> descr = getattr(evt, 'ifDescr', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> evt.component = descr
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> if device:
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:16] **raw> description = ''
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:18] **raw> for iface in device.os.interfaces():
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:20] **raw> if index and iface.ifindex == index:
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:22] **raw> descr = iface.description
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:24] **raw> elif descr and iface.name == descr:
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:25] **therealnemo> ok
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:26] **raw> descr = iface.description
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:28] **raw> evt.summary = 'Link down on %s' % (descr)
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:36] **therealnemo> delete your transform there ( cut or whatever )
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:41] **raw> k
[20-Jan-2009 08:44:43] **therealnemo> and use the triangle pull down menu
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:00] **therealnemo> more -> transform
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:03] **therealnemo> and paste it in there
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:17] **raw> in which section?
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:43] **therealnemo> where you were ( events/ status / linkdown
[20-Jan-2009 08:45:50] **therealnemo> (i dont have that in my zenoss )
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:01] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:15] **raw> well, that just means that I'm applying it to that whole event class
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:19] **raw> instead of to the event itself
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:25] **raw> which is not really what I want to do
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:38] **raw> I don't see how applying it to the whole event class makes a difference
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:53] **therealnemo> the other doesnt work i was told by a zenoss engineer
[20-Jan-2009 08:46:56] **raw> plus, the event component is successfully displaying the interface name
[20-Jan-2009 08:47:02] **raw> it's just not showing up in the event summary
[20-Jan-2009 08:47:15] **raw> ok, I'll try it this way I guess
[20-Jan-2009 08:47:20] **therealnemo> i dont do any transforms there, i do them from the class -> more -> transform
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:02] **therealnemo> heres one of mine
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:03] **therealnemo> http://zenoss.pastebin.com/m14838c93
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:10] **adytum-bot> Title: zenoss private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at zenoss.pastebin.com)
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:55] **raw> well, I'll try it this way
[20-Jan-2009 08:48:56] **raw> afk
[20-Jan-2009 08:50:58] **raw> it didn't even transform that time
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:30] **raw> oh, do you have to put a checkmark in the checkbox when you do that?
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:41] **raw> actually no, you shouldn't have to
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:43] **raw> hmmm
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:45] **therealnemo> no in my version
[20-Jan-2009 08:51:57] **therealnemo> your spacing etc is right ? ( indenting )
[20-Jan-2009 08:55:32] **raw> yup
[20-Jan-2009 08:55:46] **raw> should be
[20-Jan-2009 08:56:04] **therealnemo> id be interested to know how you get on there
[20-Jan-2009 08:56:19] **therealnemo> i use transforms allot, if you have success with your method, let me know
[20-Jan-2009 08:56:27] **therealnemo> that was my first approach
[20-Jan-2009 09:02:55] **raw> ok
[20-Jan-2009 09:03:12] **raw> I plan to use transforms a lot too, once I figure them out lol
[20-Jan-2009 09:04:18] **raw> I think this transform is overblown for what I want
[20-Jan-2009 09:04:58] **raw> all I want to do is have something saying Link Down on int Gig0/1 (or whatever the int name is) as the event summary
[20-Jan-2009 09:05:15] **raw> I'm going to try something
[20-Jan-2009 09:06:51] **raw> there
[20-Jan-2009 09:06:57] **raw> just had to simplify the script
[20-Jan-2009 09:07:06] **raw> and it does work in that transform field
[20-Jan-2009 09:10:09] **timholum> hello, I have a FreeBSD Server running openvpn, for some reason zenoss does not recognize the network in network map? any idea's?
[20-Jan-2009 09:17:43] **timholum> It looks like openvpn actuly makes each device a /32. Is there anyway to tell zenoss that my network is actuly attached to my freebsd server?
[20-Jan-2009 09:37:38] **raw> ok, here's a good question...
[20-Jan-2009 09:37:46] **raw> how do I pull 2 variables in to the summary?
[20-Jan-2009 09:38:00] **raw> evt.summary = 'Link down on %s' % (descr)
[20-Jan-2009 09:38:37] **raw> let's say I wanted to put something like 'Spanning tree for %var1 reconfigured for int %var2'?
[20-Jan-2009 09:39:09] **raw> %s is pulling in the variable specified after the string, any way to specify a second?
[20-Jan-2009 09:43:32] **raw> ah, you can just do 'message', variable ' etc...'
[20-Jan-2009 09:51:21] **timholum> Is there any way to manuly tell zenoss that a network is attached to a device?
[20-Jan-2009 09:58:23] **wassy121> Man, I am having terrible troubles finding why I get "zenping heartbeat failure", followed by heartbeat clear every 4 minutes (my ping cycle interval). The logs say things are dandy.
[20-Jan-2009 10:00:59] janwari is now known as janwari_away
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:54] **raw> can someone tell me what's wrong with this evt.summary line?
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:54] **raw> int = getattr(evt, 'ifName', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:55] **raw> vlan = getattr(evt, 'vtpVlanIndex', 'Unknown Interface')
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:55] **raw> evt.component = vlan
[20-Jan-2009 10:21:56] **raw> evt.summary = 'Blah blah', int 'Blah blah', vlan
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:10] **raw> obviously I'm new to this
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:27] **raw> I just want to be able to insert 2 different variable in to different points in the event summary
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:38] **raw> I'm googled around and can't find anything
[20-Jan-2009 10:22:42] **raw> I've*
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:17] **wassy121> raw: you may be looking for something like 'link down on %s because of %s' % (descr, vlan)
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:26] **wassy121> ?
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:32] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:37] **raw> ok, yeh, that's exactly what I want
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:39] **wassy121> I don't know either, so may be blind-leading-blind here.
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:41] **raw> I didn't know the syntax
[20-Jan-2009 10:28:46] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:00] **raw> but yeh, something like that
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:08] **wassy121> I know it is 'string with %d %s %i, etc' % (list, of, variables)
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:16] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:27] **raw> yeh, I need to know the exact syntax for it
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:31] **wassy121> It may be (list), (of), (3 * variables)
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:36] **raw> and also, what if I want to glue a variable to a piece of text?
[20-Jan-2009 10:29:55] **raw> like, there's a vlan value, I want it to display as Vlan%s so basically Vlan1, or whatever
[20-Jan-2009 10:30:46] **wassy121> Yeah, just like that.
[20-Jan-2009 10:31:24] **wassy121> print "%32s %16s %17s" % (d.getDeviceName(), d.manageIp, d.os.interfaces()[0].macaddress )
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:02] **wassy121> it even takes printf-style %0.2d type variables too.
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:19] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:43] **raw> ummm
[20-Jan-2009 10:32:48] **raw> what are the numbers for?
[20-Jan-2009 10:35:58] **raw> it's been a while since I've done C
[20-Jan-2009 10:35:59] **raw>
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:11] **wassy121> It is python print syntax.
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:16] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:24] **wassy121> Need to read the docs to know.
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:28] **wassy121> No time, work to do ;-)
[20-Jan-2009 10:36:34] **raw> lol
[20-Jan-2009 11:00:39] **raw> evt.summary = 'Spanning tree reset on Vlan%s for int %s' % (vlan,int) ---> worked
[20-Jan-2009 12:02:45] **wassy121> cool, glad you got it working. Had to take a timeout to watch inaugural address. Good times.
[20-Jan-2009 12:02:56] **wassy121> I got my zenping heartbeat errors gone too ;-)
[20-Jan-2009 12:03:27] **nemo2> my power was out, sweet mercy
[20-Jan-2009 12:13:45] **gem-in-eye> I disabled an IP on a DNS server that was giving me a critical event because it wasn't routable but for the life of me I can't get it to go away from the IP Service. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
[20-Jan-2009 12:30:39] **raw> wassy121: what was causing the errors? (out of curiosity)
[20-Jan-2009 12:31:25] **wassy121> raw: I had my ping cycle timer set to the same as my heartbeat check timer, so the heartbeat check was just missing that zenping had run due to order of operation.
[20-Jan-2009 12:31:36] **raw> ah
[20-Jan-2009 12:31:52] **raw> I figured it'd be some sort of timing issue from the way you were describing it
[20-Jan-2009 12:32:23] **raw> I finally have Zenoss spitting out notifications in plan english
[20-Jan-2009 12:32:29] **raw> plain english, rather
[20-Jan-2009 13:10:46] **Pimpachu> anyone here used Zenoss to monitor OpenBSD?
[20-Jan-2009 13:16:03] **shadkianash> hi every1, I´ve one little question... I´m using Zenoss to process SNMP Traps from one app. I use Transformations to put information in the trap on the several columns of the Event Console. reading the manual, I saw that it´s possible to use python syntax in the evt.summary collection... so, I google for python escape char to render a Line Feed - Carriage Return in the variable, but zenoss seems to scan the variable content and strip off the "\
[20-Jan-2009 13:24:11] **nemo2> show me your transform on pastebin
[20-Jan-2009 13:27:36] **raw> anyone know what's wrong with this line?
[20-Jan-2009 13:27:38] **raw> evt.summary = '%s-%s: %s - Severity: %s' % (facility,msgname.msgtext,histsev)
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:06] **raw> oh wait
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:09] **raw> I'm an idiot
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:16] **raw> put a period instead of a coma
[20-Jan-2009 13:28:33] **raw> time to test again...
[20-Jan-2009 13:30:12] **nemo2> shadkianash, are you using the same method as raw? ( %s and a variable )
[20-Jan-2009 13:30:21] **raw> works
[20-Jan-2009 14:02:01] **shadkianash> no, I´m using this... evt.summary=evt.summary + "\n text text text"
[20-Jan-2009 14:02:06] **timholum> does anyone know how to get zenoss to make an openvpn network show up?
[20-Jan-2009 14:03:05] **timholum> it does not show up becoulse openvpn uses a /32 for each connected client. and i am wondering how to make zenoss know that the whole network is behind it?
[20-Jan-2009 14:05:49] **timholum> is anyone in hear?
[20-Jan-2009 14:05:51] **nemo2> shadkianash, suggest you use that other way then, let us know if that solves it
[20-Jan-2009 14:06:03] **nemo2> sounds like your new to python shadkianash ?
[20-Jan-2009 14:06:52] **shadkianash> yeap...so newbie... I only search that because I need to render the information on the summary in multiple lines
[20-Jan-2009 14:08:26] **Pimpachu> Anyone here attempted to monitor OpenBSD hosts?
[20-Jan-2009 14:17:36] **timholum> Pimpachu: I have freebsd, which is close but not the same
[20-Jan-2009 14:19:58] **timholum> I am actuly having a few problems with it. but it is mostly due to openvpn.
[20-Jan-2009 14:20:23] **timholum> but I just had to install net-snmp to get it to start monitoring
[20-Jan-2009 14:59:01] **Pimpachu> How do I get Zenoss to find stuff on my network
[20-Jan-2009 15:00:06] **gem-in-eye> You mean auto discover?
[20-Jan-2009 15:01:18] **Pimpachu> Yes
[20-Jan-2009 15:01:59] **gem-in-eye> go to /Networks, check off the subnetworks you want to scan, drill down into a subnet, or add one and check it. Then click the Subnetworks arrow and do Discover Devices.
[20-Jan-2009 15:08:00] **nemo2> WARNING zen.ApplyDataMap: attribute rdb not found on object sda1
[20-Jan-2009 15:08:06] **nemo2> anyone bumped into that?
[20-Jan-2009 16:08:01] **timholum> Does anyone have openvpn connecting there zenoss networks?
[20-Jan-2009 16:10:49] **atsaloli> Hi. I am getting "unknown" for disk filesystem free bytes in Zenoss Core 2.3.0. How do I get the byte count, please?
[20-Jan-2009 16:28:51] **atsaloli> WARNING zen.ApplyDataMap: attribute rdc not found on object sda1
[20-Jan-2009 16:52:51] **nemo2> atsaloli, i got that last one, and a few variations
[20-Jan-2009 16:53:06] **nemo2> i think its new for 2.3.2 , because i dont find anything in google about it
[20-Jan-2009 17:37:30] **atsaloli> thanks for your reply
[20-Jan-2009 17:37:41] **atsaloli> I am getting the byte count now
[20-Jan-2009 17:37:50] **atsaloli> I moved my devices from top level to /Devices/Server/Linux
[20-Jan-2009 18:12:52] **atsaloli> bye
[20-Jan-2009 18:40:59] **gem-in-eye> Anyone around?
[20-Jan-2009 18:54:47] **timholum> i am, but i am very new to zenoss
[20-Jan-2009 18:55:09] **timholum> i have been using it for less then a week
[20-Jan-2009 19:09:06] **rhett> im an amateur but will only be here for a few more minutes
[20-Jan-2009 19:09:55] **gem-in-eye> Do you know if you need the Professional or Enterprise levels to restrict the views of users? I only want people to see the systems they manage.
[20-Jan-2009 19:10:36] **rhett> :\ i dont know the answer to that since everyone here looks at the same thing. sorry.
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[21-Jan-2009 05:51:06] **janwari> conary migrate --interactive --resolve \ group-zenoss-enterprise=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//enterprise-2.3 gives me group-zenoss-enterprise was not found on branch /zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//enterprise-2.3
[21-Jan-2009 06:10:00] **janwari> is conary migrate from 2.3.0 to 2.3.2 not working anymore ?
[21-Jan-2009 06:14:54] **janwari> looks like a expired SSL certificate issue
[21-Jan-2009 06:18:51] **shadkianash> hi every1, I´ve one little question... I´m using Zenoss to process SNMP Traps from one app. I use Transformations to put information in the trap on the several columns of the Event Console. reading the manual, I saw that it´s possible to use python syntax in the evt.summary collection... so, I google for python escape char to render a Line Feed - Carriage Return in the variable, but zenoss seems to scan the variable content and strip off the "\
[21-Jan-2009 06:19:22] **nemo_> what about the chat we had yesterday shadkianash
[21-Jan-2009 06:20:39] **shadkianash> nemo_ thxs so much for your reply yesterday, but I still getting nothing
[21-Jan-2009 06:21:28] **shadkianash> I´m so so newbie about python... so clueless
[21-Jan-2009 06:21:41] **nemo_> perhaps you need #python then
[21-Jan-2009 06:21:54] **nemo_> no offence, but sitting here keep pasting the same question is worse
[21-Jan-2009 06:23:19] **shadkianash> I know that, but pasting here (we peopple that uses zenoss more than I) maybe could be the solution (or part of it)
[21-Jan-2009 06:23:49] **shadkianash> (by the way, I have done several tests for this thing)
[21-Jan-2009 06:24:30] **shadkianash> but maybe, someone in the zenoss development team could confirm me that
[21-Jan-2009 06:24:34] **janwari> how can one run cornary migrate when SSL certificate of https://update.zenoss.com/conary/ has expired ?
[21-Jan-2009 06:24:41] **adytum-bot> Title: Conary Repository (at update.zenoss.com)
[21-Jan-2009 06:25:37] **axentrix> I'm trying to monitor performance, and bandwith on each interface, on cisco asa 5510 and pix 515E. Installed the zenpack "Cisco Adaptive Security Appliance", and got cpu/ram. I'm now trying to monitor the throughput on each interface, but get "MISSING RRD FILE". Any clues?
[21-Jan-2009 06:29:18] **axentrix> The good old catalyst 3550 are grphing though..
[21-Jan-2009 06:54:33] **maaarek> brb
[21-Jan-2009 08:03:49] **baffle_> axentrix: I have the same on Cisco 3560s, it has RRDs for gig0/1-9 and 0/52, but not 0/10-51 ... And I have no idea why.
[21-Jan-2009 08:34:17] **janwari> can Zenoss be used to monitor BIND ?
[21-Jan-2009 09:11:09] **ke4qqq> janwari: yes - what aspect of bind do you want to monitor?
[21-Jan-2009 09:11:39] **ke4qqq> I have it monitoring # of requests, # that it fulfills locally, # that it recursively provides, and # of nxdomains.
[21-Jan-2009 09:11:51] **ke4qqq> as well as monitoring that the process is alive
[21-Jan-2009 09:12:55] **baffle_> ke4qqq: Via ssh (or simmilar) or SNMP?
[21-Jan-2009 09:13:46] **ke4qqq> baffle_: via snmp, though all of those are running as commands and then feeding snmpd, so I assume that it wouldn't be too difficult to do via ssh
[21-Jan-2009 09:14:34] **baffle_> ke4qqq: Ah, okay. We wrote a small snmp-daemon in python that we add modules to, wich we proxy requests to.. I really hate execing things from snmpd.. :-/
[21-Jan-2009 09:14:51] **baffle_> ke4qqq: (Not for bind, only used it for memcached for now)
[21-Jan-2009 09:16:01] **ke4qqq> interesting
[21-Jan-2009 09:17:05] **baffle_> ke4qqq: We registred our own PEN for all our own SNMP stuff. Hopefully we'll get around to packaging it up some day.. :-)
[21-Jan-2009 09:19:47] **ke4qqq> that'd be cool - and very useful
[21-Jan-2009 09:22:33] **janwari> ke4qqq: im using ssh and zenplugins to monitor our servers. For BIND i would like to monitor how many requests it served and how which requests were served the most. Similar to what dnstop offers.
[21-Jan-2009 09:22:45] **janwari> Which plugin could be used to acrieve that ?
[21-Jan-2009 09:29:48] **ke4qqq> janwari: http://freshmeat.net/projects/bind9stats/ is one option
[21-Jan-2009 09:29:54] **adytum-bot> Title: freshmeat.net: Project details for Bind9 SNMP Subagent (at freshmeat.net)
[21-Jan-2009 09:39:31] **janwari> ke4qqq: but im not using snmp
[21-Jan-2009 09:41:20] **ke4qqq> right, so look at what is being execed by snmp - and exec those to get your values via ssh
[21-Jan-2009 09:48:54] **janwari> sweet thanks
[21-Jan-2009 16:21:57] **baffle_> Is there a way to supply a custom datapoint command with the IP of the device as an argument instead of $devname?
[21-Jan-2009 16:22:19] **baffle_> I have a few devices wich don't have a publically resolvable hostname.
[21-Jan-2009 16:27:18] **nemo2> you should probably make an entry in your /etc/hosts of your zenoss box
[21-Jan-2009 16:32:03] **baffle_> nemo2: I think I should set up a DNS instead.
[21-Jan-2009 16:33:44] **nemo2> possibly, but hosts files works
[21-Jan-2009 16:34:10] **nemo2> ( thats how dns used to happen )
[21-Jan-2009 16:50:13] **densone> hiya all In zenoss disk space monitoring is a low level event. I want all of my servers to throw alerts when disk is low. I have done this before, but can remember where to set the parameter. Can someone please help me out?
[21-Jan-2009 16:51:41] **rhett> you have to go into the template for the appropriate class and set a threshold. then attach that threshold to a graph and assign it a severity
[21-Jan-2009 16:52:33] **dranch> Hello.. I'm trying to figure out why the maintinence window feature in 2.2.3 doesn't seem to do anything
[21-Jan-2009 16:52:53] **nemo2> dranch, yeh i observed the same
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:09] **dranch> Hmmm.. is it fixed in a newer rev?
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:13] **nemo2> ive upgraded now, but i didnt think to check
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:21] **dranch> you running 2.3.1?
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:30] **nemo2> if your around tomorrow i will let you know
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:33] **nemo2> 2.3.2
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:42] **nemo2> i upgraded for the second time last night
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:44] **dranch> could you email the result to me?
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:54] **mrayzenoss> that sounds like this ticket: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4136
[21-Jan-2009 16:53:55] **nemo2> i dont have access to it right now
[21-Jan-2009 16:54:05] **mrayzenoss> which is scheduled for 2.3.3 and can be patched
[21-Jan-2009 16:54:33] **dranch> that ticket seems specific to windows
[21-Jan-2009 16:55:07] **dranch> I tried to search for "maintenance" in the bug tracking tool but it's a POS
[21-Jan-2009 16:55:55] **densone> rhett, so how do I find out what class disk space belongs to
[21-Jan-2009 16:56:13] **dranch> mray.. thanks for fixing the 2.3.1 release note issue
[21-Jan-2009 16:56:16] **rhett> densone: is it for a linux or windows host
[21-Jan-2009 16:56:16] **mrayzenoss> there's a report for what's targeted for 2.3.3: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/report/6
[21-Jan-2009 16:57:20] **rhett> well actually in either case click on the device class
[21-Jan-2009 16:57:32] **rhett> navigate to /Devices/Server
[21-Jan-2009 16:57:44] **rhett> click the templates tab. then select 'Filesystem'
[21-Jan-2009 16:58:13] **dranch> I can't find any existing ticket that matches my issue
[21-Jan-2009 16:58:29] **densone> awesome
[21-Jan-2009 16:58:42] **densone> thats exactly what I was looking for.
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:33] **densone> My company can't afford to pay for the zenoss support, but we want to talk to someone and maybe get some setup help. Does zenoss help with this?
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:35] **dranch> @nemo2: could you email me with the results tomorrow when you do have access?
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:36] **adytum-bot> dranch: Error: 'nemo2:' is not a valid command.
[21-Jan-2009 16:59:57] **dranch> nemo2: could you email me with the results tomorrow when you do have access?
[21-Jan-2009 17:00:07] **rhett> densome. no problem
[21-Jan-2009 17:00:11] **rhett> let me know if you need more help
[21-Jan-2009 17:00:26] **rhett> but you should be able to look at the exisiting threshold to see how to setup new ones
[21-Jan-2009 17:01:45] **nemo2> dranch, i am in the channel daily at work, just remind me
[21-Jan-2009 17:02:07] **dranch> So check in with you at 3pm tomorrow?
[21-Jan-2009 17:02:12] **nemo2> sure
[21-Jan-2009 17:03:01] **dranch> Cool. I hope this is fixed. Do you know if the upgrade from 2.2.4 to 2.3.2 would be an easy one?
[21-Jan-2009 17:03:43] **nemo2> well in general, i never found them easy, but keep running zenmigrate, with --step args if neccesary
[21-Jan-2009 17:03:54] **nemo2> work through the issues , and you will get there
[21-Jan-2009 17:04:38] **dranch> The previous person who did Zenoss here always had to re-install from scratch for 100% results. I can't afford that kind of time
[21-Jan-2009 17:05:13] **nemo2> same here, too much effort gone into tuning
[21-Jan-2009 17:05:49] **dranch> Ok.. I'll check in with you tomorrow . You have maintence windows every night?
[21-Jan-2009 17:05:59] **nemo2> i do have them set up
[21-Jan-2009 17:06:12] **nemo2> but i dont know exactley how they work
[21-Jan-2009 17:06:40] **nemo2> they didnt seem to work in any recognisable way and i moved on to more pressing issues, and hard work
[21-Jan-2009 17:07:00] **dranch> Do you have a way to test them? ie. outside the window, do something to cause an alert and make sure you get it. then, in the window, do it again and make sure you don't get an alert?
[21-Jan-2009 17:07:40] **nemo2> there is always something happening on my zenoss install, no tests needed
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:05] **nemo2> we have tight prod / no prod hours, i see maintenance start every night when shifts close
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:23] **nemo2> boxes going up / down etc
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:25] **dranch> Well.. this isn't an install so much as a functionality test. everything else seems to be ok for my needs
[21-Jan-2009 17:08:54] **densone> rhett, another question. Trying to add alerting rule in FF3 for the Mac, and it asks me for an id. I add some type of id. Click OK and nothing happens. Any idea ?
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:28] **nemo2> densone, just a name
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:35] **nemo2> like myrule
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:38] **densone> ok
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:39] **dranch> Ok.. to be specific, I use per-class maintenance windows (class --> linux --> www)
[21-Jan-2009 17:09:57] **densone> and the OK button wont click.
[21-Jan-2009 17:10:23] **nemo2> dranch, me too
[21-Jan-2009 17:21:29] **rhett> densone: hm i did have some weird issues but ive been using the beta (im on osx 10.5.6)
[21-Jan-2009 17:21:51] **rhett> sorry. i was having weird problems like that but they seemed to stop while i was using the lastest beta
[21-Jan-2009 17:21:53] **densone> its a cross domain scripting issue
[21-Jan-2009 17:34:53] **densone> rhett, do monitoring windows need to be setup for alerts to work?
[21-Jan-2009 17:35:29] **rhett> :\ i dont know i only have 1 windows box that i monitor minimally
[21-Jan-2009 17:44:17] **mrayzenoss> densone: no you don't need monitoring windows
[21-Jan-2009 17:44:30] **densone> thx
[21-Jan-2009 17:47:11] **rhett> i completely misread that line
[21-Jan-2009 17:47:13] **rhett> haha
[21-Jan-2009 17:48:45] **mrayzenoss> monitoring windows are completely optional, alerts work without using them
[21-Jan-2009 17:49:07] **mrayzenoss> be back tomorrow for the developer IRC session at 11am EST
[21-Jan-2009 17:49:09] **mrayzenoss> later
[21-Jan-2009 17:52:31] **rhett> yay
[21-Jan-2009 17:59:59] **gem-in-eye> I don't recall if I asked this before. Is there a way to allow users to only see certain machines that belong to them? Right now a user can see every box on our network.
[21-Jan-2009 18:49:57] **gem-in-eye> What does WMI get you that SNMP doesn't?
[21-Jan-2009 19:59:23] **loflika> Does anyone else every have issues with Zenoss dying? Or folks have some sort of a regular restart script?
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[22-Jan-2009 04:20:42] **zarxcky> hola!
[22-Jan-2009 04:24:06] **zarxcky> anybody alive?
[22-Jan-2009 06:18:40] **dalfz> devices or services with a grey status button - what does it mean?
[22-Jan-2009 06:19:02] **dalfz> can't find that in the admin manual
[22-Jan-2009 06:35:32] **nemo_> grey is severity "clear"
[22-Jan-2009 06:35:45] **raw> does Zenoss core support remote collectors?
[22-Jan-2009 06:35:57] **raw> or can it only do localhost?
[22-Jan-2009 06:36:39] **dalfz> nemo_ um, what's the difference between "clear" and "ok" (green)?
[22-Jan-2009 06:36:45] **nemo_> i believe distributed collector are part of enterprise only raw
[22-Jan-2009 06:36:59] **nemo_> technically is possible to run 2 copies and configure them by hand tho
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:23] **raw> you mean 2 seperate instances of Zenoss core I assume?
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:34] **nemo_> dalfz, google zenoss severity levels
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:40] **nemo_> raw yes
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:47] **nemo_> i run enterprise with collectors
[22-Jan-2009 06:37:55] **nemo_> so i didnt bother, but it is poss
[22-Jan-2009 06:38:43] **raw> apparently you can do distributed collectors on core: http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/HowToUseDistributedCollectors/
[22-Jan-2009 06:38:55] **raw> it's just a bit more involved than with enterprise from the looks of it
[22-Jan-2009 06:38:58] **adytum-bot> Title: How to use distributed collectors - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Jan-2009 06:39:13] **raw> I love how that bot does that
[22-Jan-2009 06:39:20] * raw pats adytum-bot on the head
[22-Jan-2009 06:50:42] **raw> is it possible to somehow have multiple zenoss core instances all connecting to the same central database, so that when a change is made on one it is reflected on all of them? (change in mibs, event classes, event transforms, etc..)
[22-Jan-2009 10:00:39] **mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening everybody
[22-Jan-2009 10:05:16] **cgibbons> crickets...
[22-Jan-2009 10:05:35] **MW-Trey> I know right?
[22-Jan-2009 10:06:54] **MW-Trey> Well I guess I can start-- i'm working on a client script that will access via xml-rpc.... is there a way to access the deviceSearch using xmlrpc instead of returning the entire device list and then searching that list on the client like I've seen on several example scripts?
[22-Jan-2009 10:10:46] **mrayzenoss> MW-Trey: it seems like that should be covered in the Dev guide
[22-Jan-2009 10:11:15] **mrayzenoss> and you want a specific device right?
[22-Jan-2009 10:12:17] **mrayzenoss> Chapter 7.4.2 of the Dev Guide has specific devices getting pulled via XML-RPC
[22-Jan-2009 10:13:05] **MW-Trey> I can pull a specific device without a problem, but the problem arises when I'm on the client and I don't know where that device resides in the device class tree
[22-Jan-2009 10:13:12] **MW-Trey> so I can't specify it directly
[22-Jan-2009 10:15:14] **mrayzenoss> so you want to call getSubDevices() to get the list, then only return things that match your string?
[22-Jan-2009 10:16:20] **MW-Trey> Well I'd rather have the sorting/finding done on the server, but if returning all devices and then searching that result is the only option.....
[22-Jan-2009 10:16:58] **mrayzenoss> no, just a sec, we're tracking it down
[22-Jan-2009 10:20:44] **MW-Trey> thanks
[22-Jan-2009 10:25:40] **klinstifen> I've got a simple question, I think...
[22-Jan-2009 10:25:57] **klinstifen> I've noticed there is a bit of delay between events and the email alerts I get
[22-Jan-2009 10:26:21] **klinstifen> ie If I intentionally restart the SNMP service on a windows box it will take ~4 mins before I get the email saying there was a cold start
[22-Jan-2009 10:26:44] **klinstifen> Is it the alert settings I need to modify or the settings in event manager or something else?
[22-Jan-2009 10:28:18] **mrayzenoss> MW-Trey: it's took awhile, but findDevice(string) seems to work
[22-Jan-2009 10:28:36] **mrayzenoss> MW-Trey: so if you do http://lserver:58080/zport/dmd/Devices/findDevice?devicename=k
[22-Jan-2009 10:29:38] **MW-Trey> I think the parameters might have been what was throwing me off.
[22-Jan-2009 10:29:40] **mrayzenoss> you'll get the first device with a name that matches the substring
[22-Jan-2009 10:31:25] **mrayzenoss> klinstifen: not a heavily loaded box right?
[22-Jan-2009 10:31:53] **klinstifen> right
[22-Jan-2009 10:32:07] **klinstifen> and sending emails via command line from the zenoss box appear instanlty in my inbox
[22-Jan-2009 10:33:28] **mrayzenoss> mrchippy is checking out the code for an explanation
[22-Jan-2009 10:33:53] **klinstifen> ok cool
[22-Jan-2009 10:36:48] **gangofnuns> I have a quick question about templates and how to apply them.
[22-Jan-2009 10:38:26] **gangofnuns> I have a few Device classes which contain servers of 2 different hardware platforms. I want to a apply a different custom template per platform (say, each platform has a different RAID controller), but I don't want to create a subclass for each.
[22-Jan-2009 10:38:50] **gangofnuns> One way to do this might be to add a custom collector, which discovers each raid controller. Are there other ways?
[22-Jan-2009 10:41:42] **mrayzenoss> usually it's 2 different device classes, but some collectors are smart enough
[22-Jan-2009 10:41:57] dcnoye_ is now known as dcnoye
[22-Jan-2009 10:42:31] **mrchippy> klinstifen-- there's the delay on the alert rule and the the cycle time of zenactions. by default, the zenactions cycle time is 1 minute, so on average your response time should be about ( delay + 30 seconds + transit time (which you said is ~0))
[22-Jan-2009 10:43:38] **klinstifen> mrchippy, that math is spot on
[22-Jan-2009 10:43:57] **klinstifen> my delay is 300 secs (5 mins) in the alert rules
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:02] **mrayzenoss> gangofnuns: I think the HPSIMMonitor has the logic built in if you're looking for an example
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:13] **klinstifen> and i got the email about 6 mins after the event was logged in zenoss
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:30] **mrchippy> coolio
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:34] **klinstifen> i set my delay high to prevent myself from getting spam'ed by up/down alerts
[22-Jan-2009 10:44:43] **klinstifen> so...i think i'll tweak that a bit
[22-Jan-2009 10:45:02] **klinstifen> thanks!
[22-Jan-2009 10:46:24] **janwari> besides ping is there any way to tell Zenoss to check whether the server is up or down. Our ISP has blocked ping packets to prevent DOS attacks and hence Zenoss always shows server down for all our servers
[22-Jan-2009 10:46:26] **gangofnuns> Thanks mray. I'll take a look at the code there. Cheers --
[22-Jan-2009 10:51:48] **jb> hi
[22-Jan-2009 10:53:33] **klinstifen> janwari, couldn't you use snmp?
[22-Jan-2009 10:53:43] **mrayzenoss> gangofnuns: trac-zenpacks/browser/zenpacks/ZenPacks.community.HPSIMMonitor/ZenPacks/community/HPSIMMonitor/modeler/plugins/community/snmp/HPDeviceTemplateMap.py
[22-Jan-2009 10:57:27] **mrayzenoss> janwari: we're talking about it right now
[22-Jan-2009 11:00:28] **janwari> klinstifen: no. We are using SSH
[22-Jan-2009 11:00:35] **janwari> and even for the admin tool we are using SSL
[22-Jan-2009 11:01:34] **mrayzenoss> janwari: It looks like you could just shutdown zenping and set the zEventAction to drop
[22-Jan-2009 11:01:50] **mrayzenoss> for /Events /Status /Ping
[22-Jan-2009 11:02:40] **janwari> ok let me try it
[22-Jan-2009 11:02:42] **mrayzenoss> then you could chang /Events /Status/SNMP from an Error to a Critical
[22-Jan-2009 11:02:50] * janwari restarting Zenoss VM
[22-Jan-2009 11:03:44] **janwari> mrayzenoss: this works only if u are using SNMP rite ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:04:01] **mrayzenoss> well, you could do it for WMI or SSH similarly
[22-Jan-2009 11:04:31] **janwari> ahh
[22-Jan-2009 11:05:46] **janwari> before i forget, i wanted to point out that in http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossannouncement.2008-12-17.3188552778 the Appliance Upgrade string is incorrect. It should actually be conary migrate --interactive --resolve group-zenoss=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-2.3
[22-Jan-2009 11:06:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Release Notes for Zenoss 2.3.2 - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Jan-2009 11:06:05] **janwari> s/core-2.3/core-2.3.2/
[22-Jan-2009 11:06:18] **mrayzenoss> thanks, I'll get that addressed
[22-Jan-2009 11:07:41] **janwari> this is just out of curiosity. Is it possible for Zenoss to send SMS alerts in case when the server is down. If i does it would be great and i would no longer need to use websitepulse.com
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:14] **mrayzenoss> mrchippy's battery died
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:21] **mrayzenoss> he was typing "Yes"
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:42] **mrayzenoss> You could do it a couple of different ways
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:44] **janwari> is it on any dev articles ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:10:57] **mrayzenoss> I haven't seen it specifically
[22-Jan-2009 11:11:36] **janwari> ok then what are the steps to follow?
[22-Jan-2009 11:12:43] **mrayzenoss> I'm looking around for docs on the watchdog
[22-Jan-2009 11:19:17] **klinstifen> i gotta run...thanks for the help guys
[22-Jan-2009 11:19:36] **janwari> how to shutdown zenping ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:21:00] **mrayzenoss> Settings->Daemons->zenping Stop
[22-Jan-2009 11:21:26] **jb> or "zenping stop" from a shell..
[22-Jan-2009 11:21:29] **janwari> ohh i see it now. thanks
[22-Jan-2009 11:23:36] **janwari> i am under /Events /Status /Perf
[22-Jan-2009 11:23:58] **janwari> now how do i add monitoring using CPU status ?
[22-Jan-2009 11:24:23] **jb> what do you mean?
[22-Jan-2009 11:24:29] **jb> are you already graphing CPU stats for the device?
[22-Jan-2009 11:24:51] **janwari> trying to add Zenoss server status monitoring using something else besides ping
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:03] **janwari> as our ISP has blocked ping packets to prevent DOS attacks
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:19] **jb> they block ICMP completely?
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:23] **janwari> yes
[22-Jan-2009 11:25:35] **janwari> no ping, traceroute, nmap etc
[22-Jan-2009 11:26:05] **jb> that sucks, especially since that doesn't really precent DOS attacks
[22-Jan-2009 11:26:13] **jb> prevent rather..
[22-Jan-2009 11:28:05] **mrayzenoss> I'm gonna let Chip off the hook for the session, I'll post the transcript this afternoon
[22-Jan-2009 11:28:36] **mrayzenoss> be back later
[22-Jan-2009 11:28:41] **jb> bye
[22-Jan-2009 12:16:00] **klinstifen> earlier today did they announce when the next dev session would be?
[22-Jan-2009 12:16:26] **jmp242> I missed it, but it's normally every 2 weeks I think
[22-Jan-2009 12:21:00] **klinstifen> ok cool thanks
[22-Jan-2009 12:33:15] **jmp242> you can post to the forums
[22-Jan-2009 12:33:21] **jmp242> and get help pretty much whenever
[22-Jan-2009 14:53:47] **gem-in-eye> Anyone ever tried to monitor an Avaya phone switch?
[22-Jan-2009 15:01:45] **rhett> shouldnt be an issue via snmp
[22-Jan-2009 15:03:27] **mrayzenoss> what does Avaya have available?
[22-Jan-2009 15:07:26] **monrad> anybody moved devices to other device classes via xml-rpc?
[22-Jan-2009 15:07:56] **rhett> not i'
[22-Jan-2009 15:08:30] **mrayzenoss> monrad: for what purpose?
[22-Jan-2009 15:08:45] **mrayzenoss> like scripting moving a bunch from Discovered to something else?
[22-Jan-2009 15:11:26] **monrad> mrayzenoss: yes something like that
[22-Jan-2009 15:11:41] **monrad> i played around with setting location on the devices today
[22-Jan-2009 15:13:01] **monrad> that worked pretty good
[22-Jan-2009 16:04:24] **gem-in-eye> I was hoping someone might have already setup monitoring of an Avaya phone switch so I don't have to hunt down the OIDs of useful data.
[22-Jan-2009 16:06:29] **rhett> ah
[22-Jan-2009 16:06:40] **rhett> when do you know what parameters you want to monitor?
[22-Jan-2009 16:07:00] **rhett> its not very difficult (relative i know) to create your own template and graphs once the MIB is loaded
[22-Jan-2009 16:15:28] **gem-in-eye> The mib is loaded. I'm using a freeware app to browse the whole tree which is immense. We want to know when the number of PRI circuits uses reaches 80% and the up/down status of all 115 or however many we will have in the future.
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[22-Jan-2009 16:49:16] **rhett> i see
[22-Jan-2009 17:00:19] **dranch> Hey Nemo2.. you there?
[22-Jan-2009 17:01:08] **nemo2> yeh here dranch , i guess were mixing timezones tho, its midnight here, i am at home again
[22-Jan-2009 17:01:28] **dranch> Did your maintenance window things work?
[22-Jan-2009 17:02:08] **nemo2> i didnt look, ( didnt think about it ) other things to fix. sry
[22-Jan-2009 17:02:35] **dranch> So when should I check with you again? You in the UK?
[22-Jan-2009 17:02:59] **nemo2> gmt+1
[22-Jan-2009 17:03:24] **nemo2> i will be there tomorrow afternoon 1-6pm
[22-Jan-2009 17:04:12] **dranch> It's 3pm my time and it's 12pm your time. So 8-9am tomorrow?
[22-Jan-2009 17:04:22] **dranch> my time
[22-Jan-2009 17:04:52] **nemo2> sounds about right
[22-Jan-2009 17:05:41] **dranch> ok.. I'll check back in. I appreciate it. Btw.. do you ONLY have 3.2.3 installed or do you have other nodes running say 2.2.3?
[22-Jan-2009 17:06:56] **nemo2> i upgraded from 2.2.3 to 2.3.2
[22-Jan-2009 17:07:19] **nemo2> i saw some copying going on during the migration to the collector node
[22-Jan-2009 17:07:49] **dranch> Ok. guess I'll have to do the same. I have a single node doing everything.. sounds like you have distributed. Are you running Core or Enterprise?
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:22] **nemo2> enterprise
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:34] **nemo2> its the same except some zenpacks and reports
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:49] **nemo2> i install zenoss, core zenpack + ent zenpacks
[22-Jan-2009 17:08:56] **nemo2> just diff skin
[22-Jan-2009 17:09:05] **dranch> agreed though I don't know if Core supports distributed poller nodes
[22-Jan-2009 17:09:20] **nemo2> it doesnt support it, but it can do it
[22-Jan-2009 17:09:39] **dranch> supported vs. works -- understood
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[23-Jan-2009 02:28:03] **husku> hi! im having problems with eventclassmapping/transform. does anyone have any _good_ docs what the options at the zproperties are supposed to do?
[23-Jan-2009 02:29:06] **husku> my regex does not miss, eventclass is correct, yet, what ever i try the event get created everytime
[23-Jan-2009 02:33:56] **husku> yes.. i rtfm
[23-Jan-2009 02:35:56] **zarxcky> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/events-documentation-and-examples/zenoss_event_management_paper.pdf
[23-Jan-2009 02:37:13] **husku> thx
[23-Jan-2009 02:45:17] **husku> zarxcky: well, should i even use the zproperties tab in eventclassmappings? it seems that some of the documents say to use transform field and some say to use zproperties tab
[23-Jan-2009 03:17:32] **husku> im starting to think that i cant use eventclassmappings with zenwin events?
[23-Jan-2009 08:24:57] **raw> does anyone know if there's a way to redefine Zenoss severity levels? Like, I want to rename Critical to Major and Error to Minor
[23-Jan-2009 08:55:26] **raw> does anyone have a line that would strip non-alphanumeric characters from a string stored in a variable?
[23-Jan-2009 08:55:59] **raw> when I pull a certain value from a Cisco switch I get an interface name with some non alpha chars at the end which causes Zenoss to create 3 seperate events...
[23-Jan-2009 08:56:04] **raw> New VLAN created for FastEthernet0/1
[23-Jan-2009 08:56:11] **raw> New VLAN created for �Ähx�)¸
[23-Jan-2009 08:56:16] **raw> New VLAN created for ÿÿÿÿ
[23-Jan-2009 09:06:12] **Zor> How would I give my admin account full rights to.. everything, I guess?
[23-Jan-2009 09:06:31] **raw> it should have full right by default, hence why it's an admin account
[23-Jan-2009 09:07:38] **Zor> Hmm well
[23-Jan-2009 09:07:47] **Zor> Shouldn't I be able to, for example, add commands via the webserver?
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:08] **raw> what do you mean by add commands?
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:35] **Zor> like, Settings -> Commands
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:43] **Zor> Those that'll run ciommands via the shell, I think
[23-Jan-2009 09:08:48] **raw> yes...
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:14] **raw> now whether or not Zenoss will actually be able to execute those commands is based on the permissions on the system that you are running Zenoss on, and not on Zenoss itself
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:44] **Zor> Of course, of course
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:49] **raw> if the zenoss user doesn't have access to execute a particular binary then it won't work
[23-Jan-2009 09:09:52] **Zor> And uh, just figured it was that dropdown at the top of the tables
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:00] **Zor> Haha
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:13] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:21] **Zor> Do I have to do anything in particular to make Zenoss monitor my system? Or does it do that already?
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:36] **raw> what type of system are you monitoring?
[23-Jan-2009 09:10:54] **Zor> Platform? CentOS 5
[23-Jan-2009 09:11:48] **raw> It'll have some basic monitoring for the get go, but if you want more advanced monitoring you need to install an SNMP agent on the server so that it can send snmp traps to Zenoss, then you need to install MIBs in to Zenoss so that it can interpret the traps
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:06] **raw> Zenoss is really more of a Enterprise level product than something you would use to monitor your home server
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:18] **raw> from the get go* rather
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:41] **Zor> This isn't a home server anyway so that's fine ;P
[23-Jan-2009 09:12:47] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:08] **raw> I've just started working with Zenoss and I've spent quite a bit of time setting up the instance that I'm working on, it's a lot of work
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:33] **Zor> That's what I imagined
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:40] **raw> we're going to be monitoring Cisco switches, routers, accesspoints, all different kinds of servers
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:42] **Zor> But I'm guessing the results will be wonderful
[23-Jan-2009 09:13:51] **raw> yeh, it's coming along nicely for sure
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:02] **Zor> Device Name — Enter the fully qualified domain name or IP address of a device on your
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:02] **Zor> network.
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:04] **Zor> Oh, sorry
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:08] **Zor> That paste broke.
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:12] **raw> hehe
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:24] **Zor> In any case, was going to ask -- is this the IP of a computer I want to monitor, for example?
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:31] **raw> yes
[23-Jan-2009 09:14:38] **raw> IP of any device you want to monitor
[23-Jan-2009 09:15:10] **raw> then Zenoss will go out and do what's called modelling, it'll essentially scan through the device whichever way it can to collect data
[23-Jan-2009 09:15:30] **raw> but depending on what you have setup in terms of monitoring it might find little to nothing
[23-Jan-2009 09:16:02] **Zor> Hmm -- so if I just want to monitor my Linux system, I'd need to install something else than just Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 09:16:44] **raw> The linux server needs something to talk to Zenoss with
[23-Jan-2009 09:17:05] **raw> have you read through the Zenoss Admin Manual at all?
[23-Jan-2009 09:17:49] **raw> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/Zenoss_Administration_2.3.0.pdf.zip
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:28] **Zor> Not really -- I've only just set it up.
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:39] **raw> I'd recommend reading the manual if you intend to use it
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:41] **Zor> Looking through the quickstart at the moment, guess I'll get that too.
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:46] **raw> it'll answer pretty much everything
[23-Jan-2009 09:18:51] **raw> it's a long read, but it's good
[23-Jan-2009 09:19:02] **Zor> Alright, will give that a shot.
[23-Jan-2009 09:20:58] **Zor> Hmm, could you point me at a specific part of the admin guide?
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:15] **Zor> That is, for adding devices and using some sort of software to communicate with Zenoss with.
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:21] **raw> you really need to read all of it
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:46] **raw> or most of it anyways, the first 270 pages are relevant
[23-Jan-2009 09:21:56] **raw> the last 30 are all zenoss enterprise related
[23-Jan-2009 09:22:15] **Zor> Well yah, but I figured it'd be a bad idea to read the usage first and adding devices later, since, I'd probably forget the usage then
[23-Jan-2009 09:27:15] **raw> the admin manual covers everything, and it's important to read over it even if you only vaguely remember some of the stuff afterwards
[23-Jan-2009 09:27:45] **raw> at least you'll have a basic understanding of the Zenoss structure and how it works
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:13] **raw> not reading through the manual when intending to use a product like Zenoss is just plain lazy
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:28] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:33] **Zor> Oh, I'll read it of course ;P
[23-Jan-2009 09:28:45] **Zor> Just that I figured I'd read the sections in a more 'feasable' order
[23-Jan-2009 09:29:03] **raw> after you read through you'll know what sections of the manual cover what and you'll be able to jump back to them for a more in depth read as necessary
[23-Jan-2009 09:29:49] **Zor> True.
[23-Jan-2009 09:31:39] **raw> eugh, google really sucks sometimes, I'm just trying to look for a simple example of how to strip everything except alphanumeric characters from a string using python, but all of the examples are either way too advanced or completely irrelevant
[23-Jan-2009 09:34:59] **Zor> Haha
[23-Jan-2009 09:35:08] **Zor> I agree.
[23-Jan-2009 09:35:18] **nemo_> lol pythons newbs
[23-Jan-2009 10:01:41] **raw> yup, I'm a newb, but at least I'm making an effort
[23-Jan-2009 10:03:28] **gem-in-eye> Is it typical to see a bunch of debug events stating that OIDs are invalid after adding a Cisco router with SNMP? Ever time I add one of our routers I get another 50 debug events that just won't go away.
[23-Jan-2009 10:04:46] **raw> gem, I've been seeing a few of those in our test environment as well, not sure what's causing it yet
[23-Jan-2009 10:05:01] **raw> have you installed all of the Cisco MIBs?
[23-Jan-2009 10:06:09] **gem-in-eye> If I say no will you still tease me for acting like a newbie?
[23-Jan-2009 10:07:02] **raw> I wasn't teasing you
[23-Jan-2009 10:07:15] **raw> but yeh, you need to get all of the Cisco MIBs installed
[23-Jan-2009 10:07:22] **gem-in-eye> not yet :-D
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:04] **raw> what OS are you running Zenoss on?
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:11] **gem-in-eye> Centos 5
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:14] **raw> k
[23-Jan-2009 10:08:58] **raw> you need to install libsmi2 & libsmi2-common on the server for starters
[23-Jan-2009 10:09:04] **raw> since most Cisco MIBs depend on those
[23-Jan-2009 10:12:08] **raw> I'm going to write up some guide on installing the Cisco MIBs since it took me like 12 hours of total research and work to get them all finally installed
[23-Jan-2009 10:12:13] **raw> ran in to so many problems
[23-Jan-2009 10:18:14] **raw> gem-in-eye you basically have to install every single MIB available instead of just installing specific ones, otherwise you'll end up missing stuff
[23-Jan-2009 10:30:30] **gem-in-eye> There's like, a lot of mibs
[23-Jan-2009 10:37:28] **raw> yup
[23-Jan-2009 10:37:39] **raw> 1128 to be precise
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:17] **gem-in-eye> By any chance do you happen to have an "easy" way of doing that without having to download 1128 individual mibs?
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:34] **raw> you download them as a pack from the cisco site
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:48] **raw> I'll have links in my guide since I had to modify some MIBS to work with Zenoss
[23-Jan-2009 10:38:56] **raw> so just hold off until the guide is ready
[23-Jan-2009 10:39:29] **gem-in-eye> I have to wait....... oh....... alright :-(
[23-Jan-2009 10:40:14] **raw> it took me a lot of time to figure out the process, trust me, you'd spend more time figuring it out than waiting until Monday
[23-Jan-2009 10:40:43] **gem-in-eye> Will your guide have links on where to get libsmi2 and libsmi2-common? I can't find an RPM for Centos 5
[23-Jan-2009 10:41:04] **raw> not really, you need to figure that part out for yourself
[23-Jan-2009 10:41:22] **raw> in Ubuntu Server it was just apt-get install libsmi2 libsmi2-common
[23-Jan-2009 10:41:24] **raw>
[23-Jan-2009 10:48:06] **raw> ok, so whoever here is good with python, I need help removing all non-alphanumeric characters from a string except for /
[23-Jan-2009 10:48:18] **raw> so far the closest function I've found is re.sub('[^A-Z^a-z^0-9^:]+', ' ', word).split(' '))
[23-Jan-2009 10:49:29] **raw> re.sub('[^A-Z^a-z^0-9^/]+', '', word)
[23-Jan-2009 10:49:32] **raw> would that works?
[23-Jan-2009 10:49:34] **raw> work*
[23-Jan-2009 10:51:35] **raw> hmmm, I sort of have it
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:27] **gem-in-eye> Here's how you would do it with sed, perhaps it could help guide you? sed -e 's%[^a-zA-Z0-9/]%%'
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:34] **raw> got it
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:38] **raw> re.sub('[^A-Z^a-z^0-9^/]+', '', string)
[23-Jan-2009 10:52:42] **raw> that does what I want
[23-Jan-2009 11:00:40] **raw> eugh
[23-Jan-2009 11:00:44] **raw> well, it stripped the characters
[23-Jan-2009 11:01:25] **raw> but I'm still getting 2 more events with blank interface info, so I need to add a line to set the severity to clear if the interface name is 2 characters or less
[23-Jan-2009 11:13:00] **raw> weirdest Zenoss problem ever, if I set it to change the severity to 0 if the length of the interface value is less than 3 it changes all 3 of the events to clear, as though it's running through the script once but creating 3 events, 1 good event and 2 events with junk instead of an interface name
[23-Jan-2009 12:40:59] **raw> does anyone know if Zenoss encrypts it's database at all?
[23-Jan-2009 12:41:15] **raw> we're going to be storing passwords in Zenoss and they need to be encrypted
[23-Jan-2009 12:41:16] **dalfz> i have a windows server which has no http daemon, why does zenoss insist on monitoring it, and why does error-severity event never stop after i've disabled monitoring on it in OS-tab
[23-Jan-2009 12:41:50] **raw> dalfz: is it possible that the server is actually sending snmp traps to Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 12:42:24] **raw> traps come in regardless of how the monitoring is setup in the OS tab
[23-Jan-2009 12:42:45] **dalfz> raw i haven't set that up and i don't even know how, but let me check with tcpdump
[23-Jan-2009 12:42:51] **raw> k
[23-Jan-2009 12:43:31] **dalfz> btw, anyone had cisco routers crashing after enabling zenoss monitoring on them?
[23-Jan-2009 12:45:44] **raw> haven't had any problems with cisco routers crashing
[23-Jan-2009 12:45:58] **raw> what error do they crash with?
[23-Jan-2009 12:46:21] **croww> dalfz: nope, got a lot of cisco gear on zenoss with no issues
[23-Jan-2009 12:46:58] **croww> dalfz: careful which OIDs you pull on big routers, could get cpu heavy
[23-Jan-2009 12:47:55] **raw> you could probably pull the same OIDs, just at lower intervals
[23-Jan-2009 12:47:58] **dalfz> one of the the C3750s rebooted and reported System returned to ROM by error - Debug Exception (Could be NULL pointer dereference) Exception (0x2000)!, PC 0x1E2054
[23-Jan-2009 12:48:16] **dalfz> System image file is "flash:/c3750-advipservicesk9-mz.122-25.SED.bin"
[23-Jan-2009 12:48:49] **dalfz> croww yes, i noticed the cpu load
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:14] **croww> try not to monitor vlans and uvlans?
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:15] **raw> 3750 is catalyst correct?
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:28] **dalfz> raw i'm guessing the error is due to multiple monitoring-softwares pulling on it
[23-Jan-2009 12:49:45] **dalfz> raw yes
[23-Jan-2009 12:50:10] **raw> there's a section on those types of errors: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps5023/products_tech_note09186a00807ccc79.shtml#deref
[23-Jan-2009 12:50:43] **raw> it could have to do with the monitoring software or it could be something else entirely
[23-Jan-2009 12:50:50] **raw> are you seeing any other devices with the same error?
[23-Jan-2009 12:51:58] **dalfz> croww yes, i guess i should minimize everything
[23-Jan-2009 12:52:41] **raw> no one knows whether or not Zenoss stores passwords encrypted?
[23-Jan-2009 12:53:16] **dalfz> raw thanks, i've seen that page myself, but it doesn't seem to be directly related to snmp activity?
[23-Jan-2009 12:54:16] **dalfz> raw i suggest you logon and check the database?
[23-Jan-2009 12:54:43] **raw> dalfz: the crashes may not be related to snmp activity, I work with tons of Cisco devices belonging to several different companies every day, sometimes devices just go bad after working fine for a long time
[23-Jan-2009 12:56:21] **dalfz> raw that's true. but unfortunately this C3750 crashes regularly (during intervals 1-3 days) until i remove Zenoss, so it must be related somehow. guess my option is to go easy on it
[23-Jan-2009 12:56:48] **dalfz> and remove cacti's collector
[23-Jan-2009 12:59:55] **dalfz> anyway, thanks for discussing this cisco issue with me, i can report back if i find exactly what happens
[23-Jan-2009 13:05:21] **gem-in-eye> Does the OS screen collect info only through SNMP for the Interfaces, IP Services, File Systems, and Routes?
[23-Jan-2009 13:05:49] **raw> I'm not 100% sure because we're using both SNMP and WMI on our test server
[23-Jan-2009 13:06:30] **gem-in-eye> That's my preferred way of doing it, but our Exchange admin won't let me intstall SNMP on his boxes.
[23-Jan-2009 13:06:46] **raw> any particular reason?
[23-Jan-2009 13:08:25] **gem-in-eye> Something having to do with Exchange being very fickle about it's memory allocation and not wanting to mess with adding more processes that could disrupt it's Feng Shui
[23-Jan-2009 13:08:42] **raw> I see
[23-Jan-2009 13:08:59] **raw> I'm pretty sure that WMI is more taxing on a system than SNMP, but whatever
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:01] **gem-in-eye> Yeah, but WMI is already installed and running so. Unfortunately WMI isn't working for me. The only thing I can pull are the services.
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:22] **raw> I think you need to create a templare and specify what you want to pull
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:26] **dalfz> gem-in-eye i can understand him, exchange is really a challenge
we switched to zimbra because maintaining exchange was a nightmare[23-Jan-2009 13:10:30] **raw> try googling for WMI setup guides for Zenoss
[23-Jan-2009 13:10:46] **raw> templare == template*
[23-Jan-2009 13:15:50] **dalfz> raw tcpdump says three packets are sent to my server's http port with S-flag, but what is doing that? i guess i missed something somewhere
[23-Jan-2009 13:16:08] **dalfz> they are sent each minute
[23-Jan-2009 13:16:30] **raw> that wouldn't be snmp
[23-Jan-2009 13:18:20] **dalfz> raw any idea what could it be?
[23-Jan-2009 13:18:37] **raw> no idea
[23-Jan-2009 13:19:05] **raw> it might be zenoss scanning ports?
[23-Jan-2009 13:22:07] **dalfz> zenoss only sends syn packets to www-port on that server, no other ports. where do i config that port scanning?
[23-Jan-2009 13:39:50] **raw> I can't believe that there's no documentation on whether or not Zenoss stores it's passwords encrypted
[23-Jan-2009 13:40:05] **raw> now I have to go digging through the database looking for it
[23-Jan-2009 13:40:10] **raw> eugh
[23-Jan-2009 13:42:00] **raw> not sure where you'd configure that, you sure it's coming from Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 13:42:07] **raw> can you see the address that it's coming from?
[23-Jan-2009 13:42:48] **dalfz> raw yes, i'm running tcpdump on the zenoss box:) and after packets have been sent, ipservices/http is set to down
[23-Jan-2009 13:43:05] **raw> ah
[23-Jan-2009 13:43:57] **raw> that's listed under IP Services in Zenoss?
[23-Jan-2009 13:45:24] **dalfz> raw, yes and i disabled monitoring showing a grey status- and red monitoring-buttons, but still it spits out critical events. it smells like a bug
[23-Jan-2009 13:45:41] **raw> why don't you just delete http from IP Services?
[23-Jan-2009 13:48:14] **dalfz> raw i tried that first, but it came back. this is weird
[23-Jan-2009 13:48:23] **raw> it won't re-add the service to the IP Services list unless you remodel the device, or it shouldn't
[23-Jan-2009 13:48:52] **dalfz> i'll try again
[23-Jan-2009 14:00:13] **raw> this database is like impossible to connect to
[23-Jan-2009 14:00:14] **raw> grrr
[23-Jan-2009 14:00:43] **raw> trying to get on with phpmyadmin but it won't connect to it
[23-Jan-2009 14:03:40] **dalfz> you could try mysql command line tool
[23-Jan-2009 14:03:55] **dalfz> if you have the root pass, then you can access it
[23-Jan-2009 14:11:07] **dalfz> raw i think zenoss runs its own instance of mysql on port 3307
[23-Jan-2009 14:16:07] **raw> I just found that out like 2 minutes before you said it
[23-Jan-2009 14:16:08] **raw> lol
[23-Jan-2009 14:17:52] **raw> now I just need to figure out where it stores that setting
[23-Jan-2009 14:19:21] **dalfz>
[23-Jan-2009 14:20:29] **raw> and zenoss doesn't even appear to store anything in the sql database other than events
[23-Jan-2009 14:28:27] **raw> the password is stored in Zope, I finally found it
[23-Jan-2009 14:28:41] **raw> and it's displayed plaintext, now I need to know if the Zope database is encrypted at all
[23-Jan-2009 14:29:04] **dalfz> try grep'ing files
[23-Jan-2009 14:35:58] **nemo2> raw, i think its Data.fs or similar
[23-Jan-2009 14:36:16] **nemo2> correct events into mysql, zeo db holds all device info
[23-Jan-2009 14:36:40] **nemo2> many wish it had been different ( the people who need to integrate with it )
[23-Jan-2009 14:36:54] **nemo2> i make an hourly mysql copy of the important bits of the zeo db
[23-Jan-2009 14:37:35] **dalfz> should i create a specific user on a windows box for wmi access?
[23-Jan-2009 14:37:55] **dalfz> i don't like the idea of using an admin-privileged account
[23-Jan-2009 14:39:55] **nemo2> yes and i heard that was fixed in 2.3
[23-Jan-2009 14:40:13] **nemo2> i got it working and stopped using it, it needed domain admin in 2.2.3
[23-Jan-2009 14:40:30] **nemo2> i didnt verify wmi in 2.3.2 yet tho
[23-Jan-2009 14:40:59] **dalfz> do you know what access group i should put the user in?
[23-Jan-2009 14:41:18] **nemo2> in your domain admins group i guess
[23-Jan-2009 14:41:27] **nemo2> best read the wmi howtos
[23-Jan-2009 14:42:01] **dalfz> yes, thanks
[23-Jan-2009 22:54:57] **sergeymasushko> can anybody help with the following issue: zenoss detected that snmp agent is down and create appropriate event, besides when the problem solved it does not clear the event. so i have 'hung' event that prevent data information collect, so i see empty graphs. when i manually move event to the history it starts to collect data. What can cause such hung events and how i can avoid it?
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[25-Jan-2009 08:46:11] **kim0> Hi, I have a large number of machines added to zenoss. I want to monitor a process named "step1" on half of the machines, and monitor process named "step2" on the second half of the machines. What's the best way to handle that ?
[25-Jan-2009 08:46:35] **kim0> Can I specify which processes are monitored on a class or group level ?
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[26-Jan-2009 02:50:40] **PierreM> hi guys... question - i have a few (about 15) Liebert UPS's I want to monitor using snmp - I got the MIB's loaded via CLI , and now i am lost - how do i get zenoss to USE the mib's ?
[26-Jan-2009 02:52:37] **PierreM> all i get zenoss to currently do is show me the device is up - whci his awesome and all - but what about graphing / displaying power levels / charge / drain / etc ? surely that is why i load the mib - to have zenoss be able to interface properly with these devices?
[26-Jan-2009 02:56:49] **nemo_> zenmib --help ( as zenoss ) for tips
[26-Jan-2009 03:03:43] **PierreM> thanks nemo ... i apologise if my Q seems silly.. i am very new to this...
and the command is 'zenmib help' [26-Jan-2009 03:08:59] **PierreM> nemo - not sure what i am looking for there - i did run a zenmib run in the dir where the mibs are located (/ZENHOME/share/mibs)
[26-Jan-2009 03:30:55] **PierreM> anyone ?
[26-Jan-2009 04:15:41] **nemo_> anyone have issues withe accuraccy of disk alerts ?
[26-Jan-2009 04:15:44] **nemo_> esp on bigger disks
[26-Jan-2009 07:23:21] **jmp242> hey - does anyone know if Warning severity events age out like info?
[26-Jan-2009 07:30:57] **nemo_> there is a setting ( under settings ! )
[26-Jan-2009 07:31:02] **nemo_> for event aging
[26-Jan-2009 07:31:28] **nemo_> you select which level and above dont get auto aged
[26-Jan-2009 07:36:13] **jmp242> thanks, in 2.2.4 I actually found it under Event Manager... Default was error, changed to Warning
[26-Jan-2009 07:36:14] **jmp242> THanks
[26-Jan-2009 07:40:42] **nemo_> kool.
[26-Jan-2009 09:22:56] **dranch> hey Nemo2?
[26-Jan-2009 09:27:22] **dranch> Nemo2: If you see this before you leave work, could you see if the new 2.3.2 code is running maintenance windows ok?
[26-Jan-2009 09:31:49] **nemo_> hey dranch
[26-Jan-2009 09:31:52] **nemo_> second i check it
[26-Jan-2009 09:31:58] **dranch> cool!
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:00] **nemo_> mine is set per location btw
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:18] **dranch> So you're running as both nemo_ and nemo2?
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:39] **nemo_> two different locations yeh
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:45] **dranch> gotcha
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:46] **nemo_> pm's dont work on freenode anyhoo
[26-Jan-2009 09:32:47] **nemo_>
[26-Jan-2009 09:34:52] **nemo_> dranch
[26-Jan-2009 09:35:12] **nemo_> i only have an old disabled one setup ( figures that i checked it didnt work and i disabled it )
[26-Jan-2009 09:35:21] **nemo_> i need to set it up again and we will see ..
[26-Jan-2009 09:37:10] **dranch> Gah. Can you setup a new one, monitor some test server, put it in a maint window, and reboot it?
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:13] **nemo_> not really
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:18] **nemo_> i gotta leave it for tonight
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:32] **nemo_> we are in production
[26-Jan-2009 09:38:35] **nemo_> not testing
[26-Jan-2009 09:39:10] **dranch> Would you have any results tomorrow morning (my time)?
[26-Jan-2009 09:39:14] **nemo_> i setup the maint window for 22.15pm
[26-Jan-2009 09:39:20] **nemo_> until 7.30am
[26-Jan-2009 09:40:33] **dranch> That's a huge window. Anyway.. can you test it tonight.. say if I log back in 3pm mytime (12pm) your time?
[26-Jan-2009 09:42:18] **nemo_> unfortunately i will be @ home then, and not on the work network
[26-Jan-2009 09:42:37] **nemo_> but as long as i dont have any events in europe over those times, i think we can consider it working
[26-Jan-2009 09:42:50] **nemo_> logs should confirm or not
[26-Jan-2009 09:43:37] **dranch> Ok.. so correct me if I misunderstand but you can't VPN into work from home so if I check in tomorrow morning (my time) you'll probably know if things worked properly?
[26-Jan-2009 09:43:52] **nemo_> sure but i worked enough today already
[26-Jan-2009 09:44:01] **nemo_> i dont remote in unless its a paid emergency
[26-Jan-2009 09:44:07] **nemo_> is this a paid emergency ??
[26-Jan-2009 09:44:22] **dranch> Hehe.. sounds nice. I'm a salaried slave
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:03] **dranch> Ok.. so the plan is tomorrow morning around this time?
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:15] **nemo_> yeh your morning, my evening
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:24] **nemo_> just check back tomorrow and we will look @ the logs
[26-Jan-2009 09:45:55] **dranch> Cool.. I do appreciate you looking at this for me. Always best to work through the issues with a real person vs. dealing with all the forum crap, noise, etc.
[26-Jan-2009 09:47:20] **nemo_> np
[26-Jan-2009 09:47:28] **nemo_> we both want to use maint windows
[26-Jan-2009 09:47:35] **nemo_> lets hope they do something this time
[26-Jan-2009 09:49:00] **dranch> Well.. more like NOT do anything in the maint window. Upgrading has me a bit worried though. I think I'll take this opportunity to setup a redundant server that's shut down when the other one is active. Do you know if Zenoss officially supports ACTIVE redundancy?
[26-Jan-2009 09:50:07] **nemo_> there is a faq about clustering zenoss
[26-Jan-2009 09:50:19] **nemo_> but it just uses the normal clustering tools
[26-Jan-2009 09:51:53] **dranch> Hmmm.. ok. I'll check that out. Gotta take off.. I'll check in tomorrow. thanks again
[26-Jan-2009 09:52:05] **nemo_> gl
[26-Jan-2009 11:52:07] **C_Kode> Hi, I installed the MySQL zenpack, but I cannot figure how to set the login information for it. zProperties or whatever it may be.
[26-Jan-2009 11:52:19] **C_Kode> Can someone point me in the right direction?
[26-Jan-2009 11:55:05] **nemo2> zProperties on the class of the device
[26-Jan-2009 11:55:13] **nemo2> i set it up today
[26-Jan-2009 11:55:56] **C_Kode> Thanks!
[26-Jan-2009 12:02:47] **raw> I just finished writing up a guide for installing all Cisco Mibs in to Zenoss if anyone is interested in having a read: http://demonic.cc/?p=20
[26-Jan-2009 12:02:54] **raw> suggestions for improvement are welcome
[26-Jan-2009 12:02:56] **adytum-bot> Title: demonic.cc » Installing Cisco Mibs in Zenoss (at demonic.cc)
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:05] **nemo2> raw , will have a proper look tomorrow
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:11] **raw> cool
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:13] **nemo2> my mibs cant be right, esp since upgrade
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:26] **nemo2> lots of new unknowns
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:37] **raw> it was a total pain to get them to load, the guide is a bit sketchy but it does work
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:47] **nemo2> i can deal with sketchy
[26-Jan-2009 12:05:51] **raw> hehe
[26-Jan-2009 12:07:36] **raw> I was writing some parts a bit off the top of my head, so if you try it out and run in to any issues let me know so that I can correct or add the necessary info
[26-Jan-2009 12:07:59] **raw> but chances are that it's fine as is
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:02] **nemo2> sure will do, i got lots of mibs loaded already
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:08] **nemo2> but i notice many errors
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:40] **raw> yeh, I originally kind of settled for the errors, but we are a network monitoring company so we can't really have missing MIBs no matter what they are
[26-Jan-2009 12:08:53] **raw> so I spent hours figuring out how to load them all hehe
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:12] **nemo2> understood, i had some messages coming from the ups, saying snmp trap 2.33.2.1
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:18] **nemo2> unhelpful :/
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:23] **raw> very
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:25] **nemo2> used to work before upgrade ...
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:38] **raw> hmmm, what version are you running?
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:43] **nemo2> 2.3.2 ent
[26-Jan-2009 12:09:57] **nemo2> its not really any different to core
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:05] **nemo2> ent == a few zenpacks extra
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:07] **raw> yeh
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:21] **raw> and $30,000-$50,000/year
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:24] **raw>
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:50] **nemo2> yeh please dont dare to ask me if i think its worth it
[26-Jan-2009 12:10:53] **raw> I think ent has a lot of transforms predone and stuff though doesn't it?
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:05] **nemo2> nah i did every one myself ...
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:10] **raw> ah
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:13] **nemo2> it has reports
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:18] **nemo2> ent reports zenpack
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:22] **raw> doesn't core have reports?
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:32] **raw> oh, you mean predone reports
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:33] **nemo2> and it does multiple collectors
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:45] **nemo2> yeh a prefab set of enterprise reports
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:47] **raw> you can do multiple collectors with core, you just need to know what to change
[26-Jan-2009 12:11:51] **nemo2> and some other zenpacks
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:01] **nemo2> yeh i know how it works only too well now
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:08] **raw> hehe
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:13] **nemo2> it didnt use to work properly and you had to edit the files anyway
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:15] **raw> too late to go back though for you
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:20] **nemo2> but now the collector stuff does work
[26-Jan-2009 12:12:27] **raw> yeh
[26-Jan-2009 12:13:12] **raw> we're setting up Noc monitoring tools and doing it all opensource
[26-Jan-2009 12:13:20] **raw> it's quite the project, but we're making good progress
[26-Jan-2009 12:14:03] **nemo2> and how is zenoss working out for you ?
[26-Jan-2009 12:14:29] **nemo2> i had to make a mysql copy of the data available from zeo
[26-Jan-2009 12:14:40] **nemo2> i got hassled so much that zenoss doesnt use mysql for device data
[26-Jan-2009 12:17:12] **raw> zenoss is working very well now that I've figured most of it out
[26-Jan-2009 12:17:29] **raw> once I got the Mibs all installed and started messing with the transforms we were good to go
[26-Jan-2009 12:18:09] **nemo2> how many devices do you monitor
[26-Jan-2009 12:18:12] **raw> I wasn't even originally assigned to this project, the engineers came to me and were like "this is Zenoss, think you can figure it out, because none of us can so far"
[26-Jan-2009 12:18:31] **nemo2> and how many events
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:12] **nemo2> same happened to me, ive been running it a year
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:19] **raw> we're not monitoring anything yet, right now we are contracting for another company supporting their clients with their monitoring tools (actually, the company I used to work for), and at the same time we are developing our own tools. We take on our first client at the end of Feb which will be just over 100 devices
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:20] **nemo2> and i am still not in phase II
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:29] **raw> we'll probably be up to thousands of devices after a year
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:40] **nemo2> i have 3750 ish devices loaded
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:50] **nemo2> 1 main machine
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:55] **nemo2> and 1 dedicated collector
[26-Jan-2009 12:19:58] **raw> we're going to potentially be taking over some clients from this other company too
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:01] **raw> and these are big companies
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:19] **raw> a bank, and insurance company, a chain of retail stores
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:35] **nemo2> yeh i work for a global company
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:39] **raw> but we need to get the systems all tweaked and good to go with some smaller clients
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:46] **nemo2> we got the same setup in aus / pacific / usa
[26-Jan-2009 12:20:48] **nemo2> i am doing europe
[26-Jan-2009 12:23:18] **nemo2> right now i spend my time making scripts for things that zenoss doesnt do
[26-Jan-2009 12:23:37] **nemo2> like when a machines dns changes , zenoss just gives a ping down for that device
[26-Jan-2009 12:23:48] **nemo2> i wrote a script to reset ips daily
[26-Jan-2009 12:26:34] **C_Kode> ApacheMonitor issue: We have mod_rewrite on that re-writes any http request as https. This seems to highjack AacheMonitor's server-status check since it's internal and doesn't resolve to the domain listed on the SSL cert. Anyone know a way around this issue?
[26-Jan-2009 12:27:09] **C_Kode> Well, without setting up an interal DNS server just to resolve properly.
[26-Jan-2009 12:58:05] **raw> cool
[26-Jan-2009 13:16:19] **raw> gemineye: I emailed you the link to that guide
[26-Jan-2009 13:21:59] **nemo2> C_Kode, cant you adjust your mod_rewrite rule to leave server status requests alone
[26-Jan-2009 13:22:09] **nemo2> that would be simpler than trying to make a solution
[26-Jan-2009 13:22:32] **C_Kode> Hmm. Maybe.
[26-Jan-2009 13:29:16] **nemo2> raw
[26-Jan-2009 13:29:44] **nemo2> are you using 32bit or 64bit system? just reading your notes now.
[26-Jan-2009 13:36:48] **gemineye> Is there a quick and easy way to stop monitoring all devices but keep zenoss up and running to view the data?
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:27] **nemo2> yeh set your zproperties on /devices
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:35] **nemo2> to ZsnmpMonitorIgnore : yes, etc
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:41] **nemo2> same for ping,
[26-Jan-2009 13:39:54] **nemo2> and make sure there are no collectors set on /device class
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:08] **gemineye> But there's not just one switch we can flip that does it. We have to make the change in several places right?
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:11] **nemo2> also make sure zendisc isnt configured to discover
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:20] **nemo2> not that i know of gemineye
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:40] **nemo2> you could vi `which zenoss`
[26-Jan-2009 13:40:47] **nemo2> and edit which daemons start
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:01] **raw> nemo2: 64bit, doesn't seem to matter
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:03] **nemo2> as zenoss user ( everything as zenoss user )
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:13] **nemo2> right raw, just wondering
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:23] **nemo2> i am running 64bit and also seen a few
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:24] * raw nods
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:41] **nemo2> sorry i see truncated to 32bits allot
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:42] **raw> yeh, I don't think it actually relates to the type of processor, it's something else, no idea what causes it
[26-Jan-2009 13:41:45] **nemo2> or used to with 2.2.3
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[27-Jan-2009 07:36:46] **C_Kode> ApacheMonitor: I have two Apache servers. Both are currently pretty much idle except for the load balancer service checks. Once says it's getting .05 requests per second. The other one says 450 M requests per second?!?!? Something is out of wack, is there a way to clear this up?
[27-Jan-2009 08:21:46] **monrad> is it normal to keep getting zenmodel and zenhub keepalive errors
[27-Jan-2009 08:22:17] **C_Kode> eh?
[27-Jan-2009 08:24:43] **monrad> i think its when zenhub does its ping tree calculations
[27-Jan-2009 08:25:32] **C_Kode> That causes Apache Requests to be 450M requests per second?
[27-Jan-2009 08:25:52] **monrad> ah no my problem
[27-Jan-2009 08:25:57] **C_Kode> ah.
[27-Jan-2009 09:54:06] **dranch> hey Nemo.. any luck?
[27-Jan-2009 09:56:50] **C_Kode> I'm trying to run ZenJMX zenpack and I'm getting the following error:
[27-Jan-2009 09:56:51] **C_Kode> [ERROR] [btpool0-7] org.apache.xmlrpc.server.XmlRpcStreamServer:188 - execute: Error while performing request
[27-Jan-2009 09:56:51] **C_Kode> org.apache.xmlrpc.XmlRpcException: Failed to invoke method collect in class com.zenoss.zenpacks.zenjmx.ZenJmxService: method java.lang.String.format with signature (Ljava.lang.String;[Ljava.lang.Object;)Ljava.lang.String; was not found.
[27-Jan-2009 09:57:16] **C_Kode> Any ideas what exactly that means?
[27-Jan-2009 10:23:46] **Rooster> Anyone available for a quick question?
[27-Jan-2009 10:24:09] **dranch> what's up?
[27-Jan-2009 10:24:18] **C_Kode> ls
[27-Jan-2009 10:25:11] **Rooster> I've got a question in regards to getting Zenoss running. I am using the VMware appliance on Windows Server 2003 and I just don't have a whole lot of experience with Linux
[27-Jan-2009 10:25:20] **Rooster> I log in as root, and it stays at the command line
[27-Jan-2009 10:25:35] **Rooster> startx, gnome&, ked&, etc don't launch a gui for me
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:04] **Rooster> in other words, I can't get a gui
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:08] **dranch> Do you want to connect to the Zenoss web console wthin in the VM?
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:44] **dranch> Zenoss is a web interface. If the VM has an IP, just connect to it via something like http://192.168.1.2
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:44] **Rooster> yeah, I plan on managing it and running it within VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:26:58] **dranch> You should manage it via a web browser OUTSIDE the VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:10] **Rooster> currently, the server is not on the network, we don't have a current testbed for it and don't want to put it on the corporate network
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:15] **dranch> to get the IP in the VM, run /sbin/ifconfig from the CLI shell
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:40] **Rooster> but ok, I can set one up
[27-Jan-2009 10:27:53] **dranch> I doubt the Zenoss would have all the Xwindows bagage. You can connect a local web browser on the same machine to the VM.. just not WITHIN the VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:15] **Rooster> ok
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:21] **Rooster> thanks for the help
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:34] **dranch> It is possible that the Zenoss VM is configured for NAT so you might need to do some vmware tricks to get external access into the VM
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:47] **Rooster> ok
[27-Jan-2009 10:28:57] **dranch> I'd look at the Zenoss wiki, etc. for FAQs, etc.
[27-Jan-2009 10:29:31] **dranch> good luck and cya
[27-Jan-2009 11:17:43] **C_Kode> Anyone use ZenJMX zenpack?
[27-Jan-2009 12:20:57] **gemineye> raw: I got all but 32 mibs to load. Most of the failed ones were due to segmentation faults.
[27-Jan-2009 12:50:38] **ke4qqq> hey guys, i am having an interesting problem. Zenoss isn't sending out email alerts - I used to receive several a day, but now they aren't notified. I can use the test email link and it sends a message out, but no real alerts. Thoughts on where I should look
[27-Jan-2009 12:51:41] **C_Kode> Any errors in maillog
[27-Jan-2009 12:53:25] **ke4qqq> C_Kode: nope
[27-Jan-2009 12:53:43] **C_Kode> Any listing in maillog for the actual email itself?
[27-Jan-2009 12:54:44] **C_Kode> Check your Zenoss logs directory. Should be something like /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/log
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:01] **ke4qqq> actually, even the test messages don't appear to be in maillog
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:28] **C_Kode> Are you looking at a local maillog? If so, are you sending off a remote SMTP server?
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:38] **ke4qqq> yes and yes
[27-Jan-2009 12:56:52] **C_Kode> Then go look at the maillog on the remote smtp server
[27-Jan-2009 13:52:26] **ke4qqq> C_Kode: I see the test messages in the remote smtp servers logs, but no alerts
[27-Jan-2009 13:53:10] **C_Kode> Go look at the zenoss logs that are usually located at /usr/local/zenoss/zenloss/log Look for errors
[27-Jan-2009 13:57:00] **C_Kode> What does the gray bubble mean? Red crit, orange warning, green good, what is gray?
[27-Jan-2009 13:58:55] **ke4qqq> C_Kode: http://fpaste.org/paste/2363
[27-Jan-2009 13:59:02] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing Paste #2363 (at fpaste.org)
[27-Jan-2009 13:59:03] **ke4qqq> gray is debug iirc - blue is info
[27-Jan-2009 13:59:53] **C_Kode> ke4qqq: That looks like your MySQL has a lock on and it's not letting go of it.
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:15] **C_Kode> Zenoss is waiting for it to unlock, but it's timeout expires before it does
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:20] **C_Kode> so it fails
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:37] **C_Kode> tables lock or something like that
[27-Jan-2009 14:00:49] **C_Kode> Restarting MySQL might help
[27-Jan-2009 14:01:59] **C_Kode> I have gray bubbles, but when I click on them I have no events.
[27-Jan-2009 14:05:26] **ke4qqq> look in the top row where reset lists - it has the minimum level of events you see
[27-Jan-2009 14:12:21] **C_Kode> Hmm. ok, I think it's whining because there is no memory or diskarrays at the location it's looking for.
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[28-Jan-2009 11:53:36] **CamargoBP> I'm getting some interesting zenmodeler errors. Here is one [They all give the known_hosts_tmp error]: The command netstat -rn returned stderr data (1) from the device: cannot stat `/root/.ssh/known_hosts_tmp'
[28-Jan-2009 11:53:47] **CamargoBP> Anyone have an idea what might be causing that?
[28-Jan-2009 11:55:16] **CamargoBP> All 9 errors return: cannot stat `/root/.ssh/known_hosts_tmp'
[28-Jan-2009 11:55:37] **djmitche> CamargoBP: is there a permissions problem in /root?
[28-Jan-2009 11:55:53] **CamargoBP> Let me check
[28-Jan-2009 11:56:41] **CamargoBP> No, and that file doesn't exist... I don't know why that file would exist to tell you the truth
[28-Jan-2009 11:56:59] **CamargoBP> I've never known to have a known_hosts_tmp file
[28-Jan-2009 11:57:38] **djmitche> it's probably created by SSH while editing the known_hosts file
[28-Jan-2009 11:57:52] **djmitche> but the "cannot stat" suggests that it really cannot create the file
[28-Jan-2009 11:58:52] **CamargoBP> found it!
[28-Jan-2009 11:59:13] **djmitche> ?
[28-Jan-2009 12:00:05] **CamargoBP> someone put a command in .bashrc that trys to create that file.
[28-Jan-2009 12:00:50] **djmitche> wacky
[28-Jan-2009 12:01:06] **CamargoBP> Yup that fixed it
[28-Jan-2009 12:01:17] **CamargoBP> djmitche: Your the man!
[28-Jan-2009 12:01:57] **djmitche> haha
[28-Jan-2009 12:04:05] **CamargoBP> Well upgrading wasn't so bad, just that one error and it wasn't zenoss's fault. Ahhh, that was nice.
[28-Jan-2009 13:59:27] **mloven> hmmm, shouldn't the topic be: "Zenoss is Open Source Enterprise Network Monitoring"?
[28-Jan-2009 13:59:56] **magnachef> well, it has a CMDB, so it's doing inventory and what not
[28-Jan-2009 14:01:49] **mloven> kind of a loose loophole, but ok..
[28-Jan-2009 14:02:49] **magnachef> Network Management is a very broad area, as opposed to just monitoring...I'm assuming that's the angle they want to go with - but I have no idea
[28-Jan-2009 14:04:10] **mloven> ahh, I thought (and hoped) they might have thrown that topic up just to hint about some new features..
[28-Jan-2009 14:14:30] **C_Kode> Create your own features!
[28-Jan-2009 14:51:52] **djmitche> I think "network management" is broad enough to qualify as a "solution"
[28-Jan-2009 14:51:55] **raw> gemineye: you around?
[28-Jan-2009 14:52:11] **djmitche> it might even have some breadth left over for synergizing
[28-Jan-2009 14:52:18] **djmitche> or leveraging, if you're into that kind of thing
[28-Jan-2009 14:57:16] **raw> does anyone here have experience with setting up distributed collectors with Zenoss core?
[28-Jan-2009 16:39:26] **CamargoBP> Has anyone got the LDAP group to Zope role mappings to work with Zenoss?
[28-Jan-2009 16:40:08] **CamargoBP> It maps just fine, but Zenoss seems to only look at the "Default User Roles"
[28-Jan-2009 16:42:21] **mloven> raw: we do a distributed collector setup with enterprise... not sure how much of a difference there would be..
[28-Jan-2009 17:08:47] **CamargoBP> So I added a device under ping and set the ip address to one that would not ping. However it says it is up. Then I restart Zenoss and immediately I get an alert saying it's down, so I change the IP to one that pings however the event count keeps incrementing. Any thoughts.
[28-Jan-2009 17:09:20] **CamargoBP> Oh and it keeps saying it's down not up.
[28-Jan-2009 17:19:09] **CamargoBP> Is it caching the value?
[28-Jan-2009 17:19:17] **CamargoBP> Can I clear that cache somewhere?
[28-Jan-2009 17:24:47] **CamargoBP> Dang and I thought this upgrade was going to go well.
[28-Jan-2009 17:25:08] **nemo2> CamargoBP, i didnt have it working in 2.2.3 ( group, although i use ldap for everything )
[28-Jan-2009 17:25:14] **nemo2> didnt test yet in 2.3.2
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:12] **nemo2> CamargoBP, re the IP , stop zenoss, do a find /opt/zenoss -iregex .*\.pckle$ and same for .zec files
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:14] **CamargoBP> I've change IP's on existing devices to IP's that won't ping and well zenoss still says it's up. Even if I click on Run Command ping and it doesn't ping, it still gives a green
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:19] **nemo2> start zenoss again
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:37] **CamargoBP> I'll do that, I've done it in one directory.
[28-Jan-2009 17:26:46] **CamargoBP> but not the whole zenoss directory
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:08] **nemo2> i just said /opt/zenoss because i cant remember exacts
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:14] **CamargoBP>
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:20] **nemo2> oh , and i kill off straggling processes that didnt die also
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:31] **nemo2> kill -9 pid
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:46] **nemo2> before starting again
[28-Jan-2009 17:27:55] **nemo2> just put it in a script
[28-Jan-2009 17:28:54] **CamargoBP> Yeah I just did that.
[28-Jan-2009 17:29:13] **CamargoBP> Here are the commands I ran: find /opt/zenoss/ -name *.pickle -exec rm -f {} \; find /opt/zenoss/ -name *.zec -exec rm -f {} \;
[28-Jan-2009 17:29:24] **CamargoBP> and there were no stray zenoss process
[28-Jan-2009 17:29:42] **nemo2> ok, whats the result and what version do you run
[28-Jan-2009 17:30:23] **CamargoBP> Still a no go. 2..3.2
[28-Jan-2009 17:30:29] **CamargoBP> 2.3.2
[28-Jan-2009 17:30:39] **nemo2> and you know for certain the ip didnt change or something
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:17] **nemo2> sorry just read the history
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:25] **CamargoBP> So I changed it from a pinging IP to a non pinging IP. It still says its up
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:31] **CamargoBP> That's fine
[28-Jan-2009 17:31:56] **nemo2> check the zproperties for the class and device itself
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:10] **nemo2> make sure zpingignore != yes / true whatever
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:32] **nemo2> tail zenhub.log as well, see if you can look at the event details
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:46] **nemo2> configure zenhub to have log severity 10
[28-Jan-2009 17:32:55] **CamargoBP> zPingMonitorIgnore = false
[28-Jan-2009 17:33:20] **nemo2> on both class and device
[28-Jan-2009 17:33:27] **CamargoBP> Yes sir.
[28-Jan-2009 17:33:41] **nemo2> ok , id check your zenping.log too btw
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:05] **nemo2> perhaps its a dns issue
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:17] **CamargoBP> I'm using raw ip
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:23] **nemo2> the device has a name and a manage ip, i am not sure what happens when they dont match
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:31] **nemo2> oh i see, i never tried it that way ..
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:50] **nemo2> id still look in zenping log ( up the severity for zenping too )
[28-Jan-2009 17:34:59] **CamargoBP> This has worked for 4 months on the last version that I was on.
[28-Jan-2009 17:35:17] **CamargoBP> Where do I up the severity?
[28-Jan-2009 17:35:46] **nemo2> $ZEN_HOME/etc/zenping.conf ( or similar )
[28-Jan-2009 17:36:22] **nemo2> i got an idea
[28-Jan-2009 17:36:37] **nemo2> when you goto the OS tab . what do you see in the interfaces
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:29] **CamargoBP> eth0 10.3.1.35/16
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:29] **CamargoBP> 10.3.0.0 00:0C:29:78:26:54
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:43] **nemo2> and thats right or wrong
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:50] **CamargoBP> Right
[28-Jan-2009 17:37:57] **nemo2> and no other interfaces listed
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:10] **CamargoBP> lo 127.0.0.1/8
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:16] **nemo2> yeh ok
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:18] **CamargoBP> That's it
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:25] **nemo2> thats quite a puzzle !
[28-Jan-2009 17:38:30] **CamargoBP> Yeah...
[28-Jan-2009 17:39:41] **CamargoBP> Good thing I backed everything up, I can at least roll back tonight
[28-Jan-2009 17:40:04] **CamargoBP> Still that's the only hitch that I've run into
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:22] **nemo2> i am sure it can be sorted
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:38] **nemo2> nothing in those logs ?
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:52] **nemo2> id grep $ZEN_HOME/log/* for your ip to start
[28-Jan-2009 17:46:55] **nemo2> see whats in there
[28-Jan-2009 17:51:24] **CamargoBP> Interesting. The new IP (That is not pingable) does not show up in any logs.
[28-Jan-2009 17:51:39] **CamargoBP> Yet the old one that is shows up in logs
[28-Jan-2009 17:53:18] **CamargoBP> oh wait, nevermind lol the one that pings and shows up in the logs is my computer...It shows the POST http session
[28-Jan-2009 17:53:33] **CamargoBP> So both IP's don't show up in the logs
[28-Jan-2009 17:54:10] **CamargoBP> but I do find the one that doesn't ping in this file: /opt/zenoss/etc/zeo.zdsock: No such device or address
[28-Jan-2009 17:55:07] **CamargoBP> Maybe not
[28-Jan-2009 17:55:19] **CamargoBP> It's just saying that it can't be searched
[28-Jan-2009 17:55:47] **CamargoBP> Argh.
[28-Jan-2009 18:01:16] **CamargoBP> zenping status
[28-Jan-2009 18:01:16] **CamargoBP> not running
[28-Jan-2009 18:20:09] **CamargoBP> zenping wont start same with zensyslog and zenmodeler
[28-Jan-2009 18:20:24] **CamargoBP> I mean zentrap not zenmodeler
[28-Jan-2009 18:23:43] **nemo2> aha
[28-Jan-2009 18:24:20] **nemo2> try zenping run -v10 ( as zenoss, as always )
[28-Jan-2009 18:24:40] **nemo2> oh zentrap - that doesnt matter for the ping
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:04] **nemo2> interesting lack of new ip the logs tho
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:20] **nemo2> there is a way of rebuilding / reindexing the zeo db
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:23] **nemo2> that might fix it
[28-Jan-2009 18:25:51] **nemo2> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch06s01.html
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:06] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:15] **nemo2> Or check/repair relationships on all devices:
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:16] **nemo2> >>> for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices():
[28-Jan-2009 18:26:16] **nemo2> ... d.checkRelations(repair=True)
[28-Jan-2009 23:24:09] **adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Daily Python-URL! (from the Secret Labs) - Giant, Python Powered Robots.
[28-Jan-2009 23:24:10] **adytum-bot> http://www.pythonware.com/daily/#entry7198912321746432341
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[29-Jan-2009 10:18:40] **dranch> Hey Nemo?
[29-Jan-2009 10:19:23] **nemo_> hey
[29-Jan-2009 10:19:48] **dranch> Any luck on the maint. window?
[29-Jan-2009 10:19:58] **nemo_> you didnt read your email ?
[29-Jan-2009 10:20:22] **nemo_> no luck. unless i misunderstand the way maint windows work
[29-Jan-2009 10:20:27] **dranch> heh.. I was flatted yesterday with fires. Ok... I'll read it in a bit
[29-Jan-2009 10:21:09] **dranch> Ok.. I'll create a thread on the Zenoss forum and see where that goes. I'll send you a link to it in a reply email
[29-Jan-2009 10:21:38] **nemo_> kool tx
[29-Jan-2009 10:22:58] **dranch> ok.. ttyl
[29-Jan-2009 10:28:58] **raw> is there no way to get verbose output when installing a zenpack?
[29-Jan-2009 10:29:18] **raw> I've got this 4meg zenpack that I made, and when I go to install it it just sits there like it's doing nothing
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[29-Jan-2009 10:50:54] **nemo_> zenpack --help raw
[29-Jan-2009 12:17:32] **raw> nemo2: I already did that, I don't see an option for it, was wondering if there's some special option that's not mentioned in there
[29-Jan-2009 12:17:47] **raw> nemo_: rather
[29-Jan-2009 12:19:23] **nemo2> -v is for verbosity
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[29-Jan-2009 13:43:23] **raw> but that particular python script doesn't support that as a flag
[29-Jan-2009 13:43:32] **raw> I'll have to try --debug or something
[29-Jan-2009 13:46:16] **CamargoBP> So I started all over, from 2.2.3 (backup) upgraded to 2.2.4 then to 2.3.2. Everything seems to work fine, the daemons all are running and I can create a device called testping I put it in the /Ping class and set the IP to an address that doesn't ping. I get a notification just fine and it says host is down. I change the IP address to the proper IP that does ping and it will not clear the host is down. I can even select the "Run Commands: ping" and t
[29-Jan-2009 13:47:21] **CamargoBP> As I post this, the event cleared itself.
[29-Jan-2009 13:47:28] **nemo2> lol
[29-Jan-2009 13:47:55] **CamargoBP> Usually in the past it clears after 10 seconds or so of changing the IP address. This took about 5 minutes.
[29-Jan-2009 13:48:14] **CamargoBP> Now if I can solve that.
[29-Jan-2009 13:48:16] **CamargoBP>
[29-Jan-2009 13:49:26] **CamargoBP> Okay so now I changed it back to a bad IP. Let's see how long the alert takes...
[29-Jan-2009 13:50:42] **CamargoBP> Ahhh ha! I looked at the event list and it took exactly to the second 5 minutes to change. There must be a setting somwhere
[29-Jan-2009 13:55:27] **klinstifen> afternoon all
[29-Jan-2009 13:56:04] **klinstifen> does anyone know if there is a "how to create" guide for zenpacks in egg format
[29-Jan-2009 13:56:14] **klinstifen> the only one i found is for zip
[29-Jan-2009 13:59:45] **CamargoBP> klinstifen: I don't sorry
[29-Jan-2009 14:01:12] **CamargoBP> So it looks like it takes 300 seconds (5 minutes) for the collector to try and ping. That's way to long for our needs. It didn't do this in our 2.2.3 setup. Any suggestions on what settings to check?
[29-Jan-2009 14:09:31] **CamargoBP> Yup even though the collector settings are set for 10 seconds, it still is pegged to 300 seconds between checking to see if a host is alive or dead. Could this be a bugg!
[29-Jan-2009 14:11:30] **daMaestro> does anyone know how to suppress/change severity for zenpack command events that timeout?
[29-Jan-2009 14:12:14] **daMaestro> specifically, we are using the mysql zenpack ... and when the poll command times out it sends an error event, which sends emails overnight (only to recover the next poll cycle and send another email)
[29-Jan-2009 14:25:49] **daMaestro> i went ahead and just adjusted the email delay to be greater then the polling frequency of the zenpack
[29-Jan-2009 14:25:52] **daMaestro> bbl
[29-Jan-2009 14:55:08] **C_Kode> On the network map page, how do you get it to default to a different network (not the 192.169.1.0/24 it defaults too
[29-Jan-2009 14:58:50] **klinstifen> anyone know how to remove a zenpack when it says "the pack is missing or broken"
[29-Jan-2009 14:59:00] **klinstifen> I can't remove it because it throws an error
[29-Jan-2009 15:00:23] **klinstifen> it seems as though the pointer remains
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:04] **C_Kode> From the web interface or the command line? Or both
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:25] **klinstifen> i have tried to remove it from both
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:28] **klinstifen> and i get an error either way
[29-Jan-2009 15:02:44] **klinstifen> i tried to recreate it with the same name but it said one already existed with that name
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:24] **C_Kode> rm -rf /
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:27] **C_Kode> hah just kidding!
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:41] **klinstifen> yuck yuck yuck
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:47] **klinstifen> knee slapper
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:54] **klinstifen> but seriously...
[29-Jan-2009 15:03:57] **klinstifen> any ideas?
[29-Jan-2009 15:04:10] **C_Kode> I'm new to Zenoss. I'm still learning myself.
[29-Jan-2009 15:05:40] **klinstifen> hrmm
[29-Jan-2009 15:20:13] **mloven> klinstifen: I thought there was a --force option for zenpack...?
[29-Jan-2009 15:20:21] **klinstifen> *looks*
[29-Jan-2009 15:21:05] **klinstifen> it's not within the help command...don't think so : \
[29-Jan-2009 16:35:33] **CamargoBP> Okay ready for this... So I looked at the zenping log and pings are working... It's just the events that only post every 5 minutes.
[29-Jan-2009 16:39:14] **CamargoBP> Well I looked at all the logs and it looks as if everything seems to be doing it's thing at the times I specified in the performance collector configurations.
[29-Jan-2009 16:39:42] **CamargoBP> I wonder why it takes literally exactly 300 seconds to send an alert up/down
[29-Jan-2009 16:42:37] **CamargoBP> Does anyone understand how an event is posted?
[29-Jan-2009 16:46:12] **CamargoBP> Never mind, I got it to work,
[29-Jan-2009 19:12:23] **pat2man> so i ran a zenbackup on one server and then a zenrestore on another, and it seems to be freaking out because some zenpacks were not installed on the new server
[29-Jan-2009 19:12:33] **pat2man> is there a way to run zenbackup that copies any extra zenpacks?
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[30-Jan-2009 03:36:05] **nemo_> mornink
[30-Jan-2009 03:36:52] **nemo_> pat2man, install the zenoss rpms ( core-zenpacks ) to get the zenpacks
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:19] **raw> anyone know what would cause this?
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> root@Base-Image:~# /etc/init.d/zenoss-stack start
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> nohup: redirecting stderr to stdout
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> Starting mysqld.bin daemon with databases from /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/data
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> STOPPING server from pid file /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/data/Base-Image.pid
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:20] **raw> 090130 07:38:03 mysqld ended
[30-Jan-2009 06:39:27] **raw> /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/scripts/ctl.sh : mysql could not be started
[30-Jan-2009 06:44:18] **raw> ah, it's some InnoDB error
[30-Jan-2009 06:46:07] **raw> fixed it, permissions issue
[30-Jan-2009 06:49:53] **raw> I installed a zenpack that I made which contained Mibs and Transforms. The Mibs and Transforms installed in to Zenoss fine but Zenoss reported that the ZenPack install failed. Now when I click on the ZenPacks tab in Settings it just hangs and doesn't load the page
[30-Jan-2009 06:50:18] **raw> ah it loaded, just took forever
[30-Jan-2009 06:54:26] **raw> Now zenping, zentrap, and zensyslog are all refusing to start
[30-Jan-2009 06:54:30] **raw> this is unreal
[30-Jan-2009 07:03:12] **nemo_> did you upgrade?
[30-Jan-2009 07:05:52] **raw> nope, I just messed up the permissions yesterday
[30-Jan-2009 07:06:01] **raw> now I'm trying to figure out what needs what permissions
[30-Jan-2009 07:06:44] **raw> don't suppose there's a list of chown and chmod settings for Zenoss?
[30-Jan-2009 07:18:41] **raw> finally fixed
[30-Jan-2009 07:27:18] **klinstifen> Morning all
[30-Jan-2009 07:27:34] **klinstifen> anyone had experience removing a broken zenpack from the list of installed zenpacks?
[30-Jan-2009 07:40:53] **raw> klinstifen: usually I just restart Zenoss and it comes back up with the ZenPack not marked as broken
[30-Jan-2009 07:41:18] **klinstifen> i had only been restarting zopectl
[30-Jan-2009 07:41:21] **klinstifen> i will try the whole thing
[30-Jan-2009 07:41:55] **raw> or you should be able to do /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenpack --list
[30-Jan-2009 07:42:11] **raw> then /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenpack --remove=PACKAGENAME
[30-Jan-2009 07:42:16] **raw> from commandline
[30-Jan-2009 07:42:48] **raw> make sure you do it as the zenoss user
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:00] **raw> type "su zenoss" as root before doing that
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:10] **nemo_> just do everything as zenoss
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:18] **nemo_> i do su - zenoss
[30-Jan-2009 07:43:36] **nemo_> not sure if there is a difference
[30-Jan-2009 07:44:44] **klinstifen> raw, i did that
[30-Jan-2009 07:44:49] **klinstifen> i get an error when trying to remove it
[30-Jan-2009 07:44:54] **raw> what error?
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:01] **nemo_> i just tried with and without the - and counted the lines returned by env, there is a difference !
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:20] **raw> nemo_: - just assumes more of that user's environment settings
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:36] **nemo_> yup
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:49] **raw> it's the same as the difference between doing sudo su and sudo su -
[30-Jan-2009 07:45:52] **klinstifen> raw, ZenPack object has no attribute '__of__'
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:07] **raw> that's the whole error?
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:20] **nemo_> pastebin!
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:32] **klinstifen> naw
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:37] **klinstifen> hold
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:40] **raw> pastebin..com
[30-Jan-2009 07:46:47] **raw> pastebin.com rather
[30-Jan-2009 07:47:29] **klinstifen> my ssh session is acting up
[30-Jan-2009 07:47:34] **klinstifen> one sec
[30-Jan-2009 07:50:06] **raw> k
[30-Jan-2009 07:55:23] **klinstifen> ok I am back
[30-Jan-2009 07:56:52] **klinstifen> http://pastebin.com/d4999da60
[30-Jan-2009 07:56:59] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:05] **raw> hmmm
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:14] **raw> have you tried restarting Zenoss since you got that message?
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:29] **klinstifen> yes
[30-Jan-2009 07:58:59] **raw> well, if the zenpack script can't remove the zenpack and restarting Zenoss doesn't clear it, I don't really know what to say
[30-Jan-2009 07:59:48] **klinstifen> yeah it's a pain
[30-Jan-2009 07:59:56] **klinstifen> i was wondering if where else it could be linked
[30-Jan-2009 08:00:03] **klinstifen> perhaps somewhere in zope?
[30-Jan-2009 08:00:06] **klinstifen> i dunno
[30-Jan-2009 08:05:55] **klinstifen> *sigh* bigger problems. now a bunch of zenoss components aren't starting/don't stay up
[30-Jan-2009 08:06:29] **klinstifen> well the box had been up for 77 days
[30-Jan-2009 08:06:48] **klinstifen> that's a long time for me...previous zenoss installs would only stay running for about 3 weeks before they would hang
[30-Jan-2009 08:06:53] **klinstifen> and require a cold reboot
[30-Jan-2009 08:19:01] **raw> that unstable eh?
[30-Jan-2009 08:22:56] **nemo_> well .. can you justify a reboot.
[30-Jan-2009 08:23:06] **nemo_> what happened
[30-Jan-2009 08:30:01] **raw> Zenoss does have a tendency to get hung up sometimes, but it's usually just a matter of tweaking the configuration
[30-Jan-2009 08:38:10] **raw> TGIF!
[30-Jan-2009 09:52:07] **CamargoBP> Amén to that raw!
[30-Jan-2009 09:52:55] **CamargoBP> Well good news, last night I was able to get the 5 minute notification thing solved. Ahhhh...
[30-Jan-2009 10:20:46] **klinstifen> anyone in here know how to remove a broken zenpack
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:14] **teletype> from command line
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:15] **klinstifen> it's preventing some of my daemons from launching
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:23] **klinstifen> so this went from annoying to important
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:30] **teletype> zenpack --list, get the name, and zenpack --remove=packname
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:32] **klinstifen> tele, anyway
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:40] **klinstifen> yeah i tried that and get an error
[30-Jan-2009 10:21:43] **teletype> doh
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:33] **perr0> have you tried from the settings menu?
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:48] **perr0> klinstifen: settings/zenpacks
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:48] **klinstifen> zencommand, proc, win, eventlog, ping, and status
[30-Jan-2009 10:22:52] **klinstifen> all wont start
[30-Jan-2009 10:23:16] **klinstifen> they have the same error i receive when i try to remove the pack
[30-Jan-2009 10:23:28] **perr0> what is the error
[30-Jan-2009 10:23:40] **klinstifen> perr0, there is no check box next to the broken zenpack to remove it
[30-Jan-2009 10:24:10] **perr0> can you press the select all and reinstall of them ?
[30-Jan-2009 10:24:23] **klinstifen> http://pastebin.com/m7007b51f
[30-Jan-2009 10:24:30] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[30-Jan-2009 10:25:04] **klinstifen> err i really don't want to do that
[30-Jan-2009 10:51:53] **klinstifen> Ok found a forum posting that may lead me to a solution
[30-Jan-2009 10:52:01] **klinstifen> but...does anyone know how to delete a datasource?
[30-Jan-2009 11:05:22] **perr0> I was looking for it for you too and got tide up.
[30-Jan-2009 11:05:33] **perr0> klinstifen: post the link so we know for future
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:01] **klinstifen> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=20371#20371
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:15] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - VM Appliance 2.2 - ZenPack upgrade issue (at forums.zenoss.com)
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:17] **klinstifen> only problem i have is that I dont have the original zenpack
[30-Jan-2009 11:06:20] **klinstifen> so i can't just reinstall it
[30-Jan-2009 11:07:09] **perr0> what is the zepack called
[30-Jan-2009 11:07:38] **perr0> n
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:20] **klinstifen> its one i created
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:30] **klinstifen> and was testing
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:34] **klinstifen> it didn't work
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:36] **klinstifen> so i removed it
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:41] **klinstifen> and then deleted the egg
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:49] **klinstifen> and then that's when i noticed that it didnt remove correctly
[30-Jan-2009 11:08:50] **perr0> got it too bad all that hard work
[30-Jan-2009 11:09:11] **klinstifen> then when i rebooted the box all the daemons quit on me
[30-Jan-2009 11:09:22] **klinstifen> at least before the root zenoss was working
[30-Jan-2009 11:14:15] **klinstifen> *before the reboot
[30-Jan-2009 12:19:57] **klinstifen> man this is annoying
[30-Jan-2009 12:44:47] **klinstifen> I can't even remove existing working zenpacks
[30-Jan-2009 12:44:53] **klinstifen> there id def something messed up
[30-Jan-2009 12:45:07] **klinstifen> anyone know of a way to clear things using the zendmd command line
[30-Jan-2009 12:45:12] **klinstifen> or know of a guide online?
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[30-Jan-2009 14:30:46] **raw> ok, when I check some HP switches that we are monitoring, the Model shows up as 1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.3.7.11.45 yet we have the hpSwitchJ4900B Mib installed which is the matching Mib for that OID. Why is the snmp OID not being translated by the Mib?
[30-Jan-2009 14:52:17] **raw> I created a products entry for it using the OID as the Product Key and it still doesn't show up
[30-Jan-2009 14:52:20] **raw> what am I doing wrong?
[30-Jan-2009 15:20:04] **raw> now I have one device picking up what type it is automatically based on the OID since I moved the Products entry that it automatically created under Unknown and moved it under HP then renamed it, but another device that is the exact same model is showing absolutely nothing under the make/model info now.
[30-Jan-2009 15:20:14] **raw> it's not even showing the OID value anymore which it did before
[30-Jan-2009 15:50:20] **raw> I have come to the conclusion that Zenoss' auto make/model detection blows. It only works for the first device and only if you take the Product item that's auto created under Unknown and move it to the appropriate manufacturer then rename it
[30-Jan-2009 15:50:43] **raw> but if another device with the exact same make/model gets added/modeled it creates a brand new entry with the same OID value under Unknown
[30-Jan-2009 15:51:12] **raw> Either that, or it just refuses to display the make/model info and leaves it blank
[30-Jan-2009 15:51:15] **raw> just wow
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