[01-Oct-2008 02:41:43] **perr> any pointers -> how to install zenoss on freeBSD 7 [01-Oct-2008 02:42:01] **perr> I am half way there just need some documented installation
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[01-Oct-2008 03:22:48] **perr> am I blind? where can I register for zenoss forum?
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[01-Oct-2008 14:26:46] **W9ZEB> is there a way to add additional information to the "Device Information" section?
[01-Oct-2008 14:27:26] **W9ZEB> Beyond the four organizers, and OS fields?
[01-Oct-2008 14:31:48] **W9ZEB> or, can items added to the Custom tab, be displayed in the heads up/dashboard display for any given server?
[01-Oct-2008 15:14:59] **evil-lw> question regarding process monitoring, A process crashes on one of my servers in production, the process disappears from the OS view of the host in zenoss, and an event is generated, then a person goes and restarts the crashed process, yet there is no clear notification, and the process does not re-appear on the os display for the host.. I'm guessing until it's remodeled, is this proper/expected behavior? is there anyway to change i
[01-Oct-2008 15:27:28] **daMaestro> has anyone found a way to actually print an event list?
[01-Oct-2008 15:30:22] **daMaestro> hmm i suppose download as cvs and printing from OOo calc is fine
[01-Oct-2008 15:30:50] **pe1> I don't think there is much convo here
[01-Oct-2008 16:51:14] **evil-lw> so I feel like a doofus, i was looking the wrong server, but I still didn't get a clear nor did the event clear it's self... so I guess that is the root of my problem after all....
[01-Oct-2008 17:56:06] **nemo2> daMaestro, sql query in your chosen lang ? ( events are in the mysql db )
[01-Oct-2008 17:56:37] **daMaestro> nemo2, i just exported my search to CVS and used OOo
[01-Oct-2008 17:56:48] **daMaestro> i just wanted a printed list of things i need to go update
[01-Oct-2008 17:57:27] **nemo2> ah i see what you mean now
[01-Oct-2008 17:57:43] **nemo2> yeh i normally filter on the device list and download a csv too
[01-Oct-2008 18:16:20] **garnica> what's up team, I've just installed zenoss 2.2.4 and trying to zenrestore a backup file of a zenoss 2.1.3 but doesn't seem to be all ok....
[01-Oct-2008 18:16:47] **garnica> any ideas of how can I restore this 2.1.3 backup to my new 2.2.4 zenoss install ??
[01-Oct-2008 18:19:21] **garnica> the most important feature to restore are the RRD files of the devices in 2.1.3 ( and of course my devices )
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:11] **nemo2> you made backups right ?
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:15] **nemo2> whos your team btw ?
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:24] **garnica> zenbackup in a zenoss 2.1.3 yes
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:38] **nemo2> so your good
[01-Oct-2008 18:21:17] **garnica> I want this backup restored in my fresh install of zenoss 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 18:21:29] **nemo2> doh
[01-Oct-2008 18:21:42] **nemo2> perhaps you should have upgraded and not reinstalled in that case
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:04] **nemo2> try it , nothing to lose i guess
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:04] **garnica> ok... these are diferent zenoss server.....
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:20] **nemo2> why dont you just try restoring it
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:27] **garnica> so I should install 2.1.3 first... then upgrade to 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:43] **nemo2> i repeat the last statement
[01-Oct-2008 18:24:18] **garnica> I've tried zenrestore.... but besides nothing was restored... my new zenoss 2.2.4 install does not start properly
[01-Oct-2008 18:25:02] **garnica> I will try... installing 2.1.3 and then upgrade.... let's see what happens ....
[01-Oct-2008 18:26:04] **garnica> ok people... have to move right now.... emergency.... see you later......
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[01-Oct-2008 20:02:04] **d1nker> does the core version of Zenoss 2.3 come with ZenWinPerf and if so how do I enable it?
[01-Oct-2008 20:24:58] **evil-lw> any hints on where I can change the remodeling rate?
[01-Oct-2008 20:30:15] **alougee> anyone up for a question?
[01-Oct-2008 20:47:38] **rhett_> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me. i am having an issue w/ zenhub not running. i tried service 'zenoss-stack restart' and everything but zenhub runs. i also tried 'zenhub run' and i am not getting an output. stopping and starting zenoss-stack receives w/ the same result.
[01-Oct-2008 20:57:13] **garnica> zenhub restart or zenhub start ?
[01-Oct-2008 20:57:25] **garnica> have you tried these ?
[01-Oct-2008 20:59:19] **rhett_> yes i have
[01-Oct-2008 21:00:00] **rhett_> hm, nm, i just tried start again and nothing, tried restart and it worked
[01-Oct-2008 21:00:32] **rhett_> any ideas about that one?
[01-Oct-2008 21:01:03] **rhett_> also it appears this always happens when the box restarts, or at least it has the past 3 times.
[01-Oct-2008 21:07:33] **alougee> is it possible to show a graph, such as sysuptime, of all devices on one page?
[01-Oct-2008 21:08:36] **garnica> zenoss version ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:04] **garnica> in my case when while zenhub was not running ... not a single graph was updated
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:04] **rhett_> Zenoss Zenoss 2.2.3
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:10] **rhett_> i see 2.2.4 is available now
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:35] **garnica> yep... I am actually installing 2.2.4 to test it
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:45] **alougee> mine is 2.2.3
[01-Oct-2008 21:11:14] **rhett_> its possible to see the graphs, but they do not update
[01-Oct-2008 21:11:30] **garnica> suddently my zenhub stops running... but happens when I try many zenoss restart
[01-Oct-2008 21:11:57] **garnica> yep.... no graphs are updated until zenhub is running....
[01-Oct-2008 21:12:29] **garnica> so if I use zenoss restart... have to make sure zenhub is running using a zenoss status
[01-Oct-2008 21:12:54] **garnica> I'm using zenoss 2.1.3
[01-Oct-2008 21:15:43] **rhett_> garnica: ok, thats what i have been doing, i wonder why its not starting on boot or using zenhub/zenoss-stack start
[01-Oct-2008 21:17:32] **garnica> Have you checked zenhub logs ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:22:19] **rhett_> yes of course, nothing stands out.
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:25] **nemo2> rhett_, test it like this: zenhub run -v10
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:41] **rhett_> nemo2: ah yes, i forgot about the -v10
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:43] **rhett_> thanks
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:46] **nemo2> np
[01-Oct-2008 21:27:03] **nemo2> run only runs in the foreground right ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:27:52] **rhett_> yeah
[01-Oct-2008 21:28:02] **rhett_> unless of course you screen it or bg
[01-Oct-2008 21:28:39] **nemo2> what i meant was to remind you to do a start / stop etc , and not to leave it running in 'run'
[01-Oct-2008 21:28:44] **nemo2> but thats your call.
[01-Oct-2008 21:29:12] **nemo2> what does the output say anyhow ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:30:22] **rhett_> haha, i see, yeah i will remember to start it, thanks
[01-Oct-2008 21:30:47] **rhett_> not much
[01-Oct-2008 21:30:59] **rhett_> says thresholds:updating
[01-Oct-2008 21:31:11] **rhett_> cleared an event
[01-Oct-2008 21:31:17] **rhett_> thats abou tit
[01-Oct-2008 21:31:35] **nemo2> well that sounds ok .. what were you expecting ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:34:08] **alougee> is it possible to show a graph, such as sysuptime, of all devices on one page?
[01-Oct-2008 21:35:44] **alougee> also is it possible to create a threshold with a variable defined via cdef?
[01-Oct-2008 21:35:49] **alougee> rather than just a datapoint
[01-Oct-2008 21:37:09] **rhett_> nemo2: for it to work when the machine reboots without me having to look into it, i am unsure why this is happening now
[01-Oct-2008 21:39:29] **nemo2> zenhub restart rhett_
[01-Oct-2008 21:40:32] **rhett_> is it common to have to do that after the server reboots?
[01-Oct-2008 21:51:14] **nemo2> chkconfig --list|grep zenoss to see if it starts after reboot
[01-Oct-2008 21:51:14] **nemo2> assuming redhat ish linux
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:13] **rhett_> zenoss-stack boots
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:19] **rhett_> its only zenhub that dosnt start
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:35] **rhett_> log dosnt show anything
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:57] **rhett_> any errors
[01-Oct-2008 22:02:57] **evil-lw> is it possible to use an event mapping to ignroe /perf/snmp notices about not being able to read values?
[01-Oct-2008 22:58:12] * evil-lw pokes dorferiferon
[01-Oct-2008 22:58:30] **evil-lw> hmm, no yelp
[01-Oct-2008 23:04:19] **perr> why isn't the install guide updated for freeBSD 7?
[01-Oct-2008 23:05:08] **perr> I know this is dry dessert and rare to find a soul but maybe my question will be echoed...
[01-Oct-2008 23:05:56] **evil-lw> perr: i know the feeling, Trying to get my install working right and it takes days to get an answer or insight
[01-Oct-2008 23:06:27] **perr> have you checked the forums
[01-Oct-2008 23:06:38] **perr> it seems like they have a lot more traffic there
[01-Oct-2008 23:08:34] **evil-lw> perr: i HATE online forums, i've always found irc to be best for most things... except the odd linux kernel issue that requires a detailed email... but I'm on the virge of giving it a try
[01-Oct-2008 23:09:45] **perr> evil-lw: they have good support there. I was under the impression they'd have a developer peek their head in from time to time
[01-Oct-2008 23:09:46] **garnica> evil-lw: installing working ?? what's with installing ?
[01-Oct-2008 23:10:11] **perr> but I guess not
[01-Oct-2008 23:10:22] **evil-lw> garnica: more along the lines of configuration/tuning
[01-Oct-2008 23:11:39] **evil-lw> i could turn off my nagios system and use it, but i'll have people stringing me up from the roof in about 24 hours unless I clean some of the issues up.
[01-Oct-2008 23:12:39] **perr> what is your issue?
[01-Oct-2008 23:13:42] **garnica> I'm trying to restore a zenbackup made in zenoss 2.1.3 to a fresh installed 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 23:14:04] **garnica> zenbackup and zenrestore won't work from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 23:14:41] **garnica> Then I am trying, installing 2.1.3. ... restoring my backup ....then upgrading to 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 23:15:01] **garnica> let's see what happens then.....
[01-Oct-2008 23:17:27] **evil-lw> so far, I don't think it's sent a single clear message, and I can't seem to get it to filter out process restart notifications which seems to be required for osprocess events to clear. When I left work today, I was getting FLOODs of emails regarding process restarts which are actually due to threads going in and out on processes that are being monitored... that and I'd almost pay money to filter out crap from /perf/snmp.. or at lea
[01-Oct-2008 23:17:47] **perr> I am searching on the forums
[01-Oct-2008 23:19:30] **perr> evil-lw: Its best for you to search bud there's a lot of threads and I am not up to par
[01-Oct-2008 23:20:06] **evil-lw> perr: i jsut found one that thread that at least has given me another idea
[01-Oct-2008 23:20:15] **perr> k
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[02-Oct-2008 00:02:18] **perr> is zenoss-logger a bot?
[02-Oct-2008 00:02:25] **evil-lw> yes
[02-Oct-2008 00:02:37] **perr> what's the purpose?
[02-Oct-2008 00:03:10] * evil-lw pokes dorferiferon for drey (mutual friend)
[02-Oct-2008 00:03:27] **perr> k
[02-Oct-2008 00:03:47] **evil-lw> it logs for the zenoss website
[02-Oct-2008 00:04:11] **perr> ahh yeah, I've seen recorded iirc chats there
[02-Oct-2008 00:05:01] **evil-lw> wow... doing it as a transform may finally fix my bloody problems
[02-Oct-2008 00:05:08] **rhett_> wonder why 2.2.4 stack .rpm's arenot on sf
[02-Oct-2008 00:07:12] **evil-lw> wow... so zenprocess locked on to a child thread and then alarmed when the thread disappeared... i love it
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[02-Oct-2008 12:37:21] **Bulwinkle> Is everyone running 2.2.4 now? I'm wondering if I should move up....
[02-Oct-2008 13:05:49] **evil-lw> is there anywhere besides the alerting rules that can control if a clear message is to be generated? If an osprocess or an ipservice neither generate a clear message, is it something with the process that puts that into the database, or what? Really, what determines its time to create a clear message, and put that into the status database for zenactions to see and send the email? Its like nothing exists in the status db in relati
[02-Oct-2008 13:44:19] **d1nker> I'm monitoring nortel 5500 and after I model the device the only interfaces that show up are the first 10, I'm new to zenoss where can I start to troubleshoot this problem and add the other 38 ports?
[02-Oct-2008 15:07:07] **d1nker> apparently a version upgrade from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4 fixed the problem
[02-Oct-2008 15:36:48] **perr> has anyone removed packages from the GNUmakefile products-install?
[02-Oct-2008 16:22:29] **Xserver> j #nagios
[02-Oct-2008 16:29:26] **chrisg> lol
[02-Oct-2008 16:29:31] **chrisg> goddamn flamebait
[02-Oct-2008 17:18:01] **evil-lw> lol
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[02-Oct-2008 17:54:26] **rhett_> hello, i just installed a fresh copy of 2.2.4 via rpm yesterday. i added to windows vm's i was not monitoring except w/ snmp (they are xp and vista business). i made an attempt to use WMI but i keep getting the following error: DOS code 0x00000058. Any ideas?
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[02-Oct-2008 17:57:35] **nemo2> google on wmi trouble shooting rhett_, or search zenoss
[02-Oct-2008 17:57:38] **nemo2> ''s site
[02-Oct-2008 17:57:55] **nemo2> +zenoss +wmi trouble shooting
[02-Oct-2008 18:12:21] **perr> Xserver that is not going to work
[02-Oct-2008 18:31:18] **kotique> hey guys. Error reading value for "memBuffer" on xxx (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad). I can do snmpget on it right from zenoss host
[02-Oct-2008 18:31:46] **kotique> getting UCD-SNMP-MIB::memBuffer.0 = INTEGER: 25440
[02-Oct-2008 18:49:43] **kotique> community wrong
[02-Oct-2008 18:49:54] **kotique> hmm. setis it to public, alhtough i have overriden it
[02-Oct-2008 19:50:09] * evil-lw ponders hitting up arrow to pose same question again.....
[02-Oct-2008 20:24:04] **ke4qqq> anyone know what threshold of zenwin cycle tim exceeded, where can I change the threshold?
[02-Oct-2008 20:29:56] **magnachef> settings -> daemons -> edit config (in the zenwin row)
[02-Oct-2008 20:35:17] **ke4qqq> it has only one param there - monitor - so obviously the param is a default and not listed - is there documentation on available params. Is the param I am looking threshhold?
[02-Oct-2008 20:53:17] **magnachef> not sure
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[03-Oct-2008 05:51:29] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[03-Oct-2008 05:51:36] **raddy> Howdy
[03-Oct-2008 05:52:49] **raddy> How is ZenOSS is better than Hyperic?
[03-Oct-2008 06:20:54] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 08:38:15] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[03-Oct-2008 08:38:29] **raddy> How do i change ZenOSS port?
[03-Oct-2008 08:38:38] **raddy> Can anybody help me?
[03-Oct-2008 08:43:53] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 08:52:37] **tarjei> raddy: try the forums. Why do you need to change the port btw?
[03-Oct-2008 11:11:06] **evil-lw> is there anywhere besides the alerting rules that can control if a clear message is to be generated? If an osprocess or an ipservice neither generate a clear message, is it something with the process that puts that into the database, or what? Really, what determines its time to create a clear message, and put that into the status database for zenactions to see and send the email? Its like nothing exists in the status db in relati
[03-Oct-2008 12:15:19] **raddy> How to make to ZenOSS web server funtion in different port?
[03-Oct-2008 12:19:26] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 12:37:20] **raddy> Is it possible to change default port?
[03-Oct-2008 12:41:49] **raddy> Anybody out there ?????
[03-Oct-2008 12:46:03] **raddy> Anybody there???
[03-Oct-2008 13:32:20] **per> werd
[03-Oct-2008 13:35:32] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[03-Oct-2008 13:36:15] **per> not likely
[03-Oct-2008 13:39:31] **raddy> per: do you know how to change ZenOSS web server port ?
[03-Oct-2008 13:40:11] **per> yes
[03-Oct-2008 13:40:27] **per> one sec
[03-Oct-2008 13:43:47] **raddy> per : i am running Tomcat in my server
[03-Oct-2008 13:44:21] **raddy> per : so i can't use the port 8080
[03-Oct-2008 13:44:59] **per> me too
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:02] **raddy> per : so i tried changing the port by editing zope.conf, but it didn't help
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:08] **per> raddy: [root@testing ~]# cat -n /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf |grep 8888
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:08] **per> 880 address 8888
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:31] **per> line 880 of zope.conf
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:40] **per> what OS are you running
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:58] **per> did you restart zope to make the change
[03-Oct-2008 13:46:43] **raddy> per : i am running linux
[03-Oct-2008 13:46:55] **raddy> per : how to start stop zope?
[03-Oct-2008 13:47:09] **per> which OS?
[03-Oct-2008 13:47:55] **raddy> per : Cent OS 5, RHEL derivative
[03-Oct-2008 13:49:39] **per> issue the following: service zenoss restart
[03-Oct-2008 13:53:28] **raddy> per : actually i changed the port already. and restarted ZenOSS
[03-Oct-2008 13:54:18] **raddy> per : now the problem is, My browser is connecting to ZenOSS server at that port
[03-Oct-2008 13:54:43] **raddy> per : shows Transfering data for a very very long time
[03-Oct-2008 13:54:58] **raddy> per : what would be the reason?
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:05] **per> raddy: I am not quite understaind what the problem is
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:24] **per> its working?
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:37] **raddy> per : how do i know?
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:45] **raddy> per : services started fine
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:10] **per> when you restarted zenoss?
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:21] **raddy> per : Yeah, i did.
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:23] **per> it tells you a list of its services
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:31] **raddy> per : ok
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:38] **per> but there is a way to get it statuses
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:56] **raddy> Per : Ohhh
[03-Oct-2008 13:57:10] **per> i think the only which doesn't start is zenctl
[03-Oct-2008 13:57:37] **per> raddy: the best way to learn is to read the documentation
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:03] **raddy> per : basically there is no zenctl
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:21] **per> don't worry about that
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:24] **raddy> per : zeoctl is there
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:27] **per> yes
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:30] **per> my bad
[03-Oct-2008 13:59:03] **raddy> per : zeoctl too started fine.
[03-Oct-2008 13:59:11] **raddy> cgibbons
[03-Oct-2008 13:59:31] **raddy> cgibbons : do you have any idea?
[03-Oct-2008 14:02:39] **raddy> per only useful error was, when i started zope seperatly i got error that can't import site.
[03-Oct-2008 14:03:15] **per> zenoss does it all fo you raddy
[03-Oct-2008 14:03:50] **per> so your problem is that it times out?
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:07] **per> and you can't connect to it?
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:08] **raddy> per : yup
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:17] **raddy> per : exactly
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:19] **per> and you have apache running
[03-Oct-2008 14:05:03] **raddy> per : apache and tomcat
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:26] **raddy> CamargoBP : hi
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:35] **per> raddy: how are you accessing zenoss
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:47] **per> http://server:8888/
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:49] **per> ?
[03-Oct-2008 14:08:36] **per> raddy: how bout a firewall or SELinux turned on?
[03-Oct-2008 14:09:11] **raddy> per : selinux is disabled in our server.
[03-Oct-2008 14:09:37] **raddy> per : shall i try accessing ZenOSS in our server using Lynx?
[03-Oct-2008 14:10:18] **per> no
[03-Oct-2008 14:10:32] **raddy> per : why not?
[03-Oct-2008 14:10:39] **per> do you have firewall turned on? if you do are you allowing access to port 8888?
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:01] **per> it doesn't matter which browser you access it with if that is your question
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:14] **raddy> per : i have firewall turned on, the port i am using is 8100
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:40] **per> for zenoss?
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:43] **raddy> per : i am talking about local browser lynx that runs in our server
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:47] **per> I know
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:52] **per> use what ever you want
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:07] **raddy> per : yup 8100 for zenoss
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:11] **per> raddy: dissable your firewall momentarily
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:15] **per> and try it again
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:23] **per> if it works then you know what the issue is
[03-Oct-2008 14:14:56] **raddy> per : i have open the port for 8100 by this command iptables -I RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[03-Oct-2008 14:15:03] **raddy> per : still no diffs
[03-Oct-2008 14:19:06] **per> but you can see that there not being blocked?
[03-Oct-2008 14:19:30] **per> raddy: I love to help you figure this out but I have to get back to work good luck
[03-Oct-2008 14:19:42] **raddy> per : interestingly when i try to access :8100 port from web browser after disabling Zenoss, Browser instantly shows "Failed to connect"
[03-Oct-2008 14:20:09] **raddy> per : you where the only help for me, ok thank you
[03-Oct-2008 14:20:25] **raddy> dorferiferon : can you help me?
[03-Oct-2008 14:20:56] **raddy> dorferiferon : I am not able to access ZenOSS web interface
[03-Oct-2008 14:24:07] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 14:27:42] **per> raddy: this channel is very slow in traffic
[03-Oct-2008 14:28:02] **raddy> per : Ohh unfortunate
[03-Oct-2008 14:33:13] **raddy> per : not even any interesting stuffs in log files.
[03-Oct-2008 14:33:43] **per> I know
[03-Oct-2008 14:34:53] **raddy> mf2ng : i am experience problems in connecting to ZenOSS web interface.
[03-Oct-2008 14:35:02] **raddy> mf2ng can you help me?
[03-Oct-2008 14:42:18] **raddy> mf2ng : are you there???
[03-Oct-2008 14:59:36] **dorferiferon> hey
[03-Oct-2008 14:59:50] **dorferiferon> sorry, i was afk
[03-Oct-2008 15:00:47] **dorferiferon> i do not know about changing the default port.
[03-Oct-2008 15:01:03] **dorferiferon> can you connect to it on 8080?
[03-Oct-2008 15:33:49] **raddy> par : i managed to install Zenoss finally
[03-Oct-2008 15:44:09] **per> were Eric Newton @?
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[03-Oct-2008 16:24:27] **kotique> hey guys. I need to regenerate interface's information for a device. I've changed interface type and speed. How do I tell zenoss to do it ? It's using old one.
[03-Oct-2008 16:27:21] **diatonic> Hey all, hoping someone can help me. I have Zenoss core 2.2.3 running in a virtual machine on VMware ESX 3.5. I had an issue with the clock racing about 6 hours fast. Got that resolved. Now zenhub won't run, or even produce any log entries. It's on CentOS 5. Thoughts?
[03-Oct-2008 16:27:44] **kotique> diatonic, wait another 6 hr
[03-Oct-2008 16:28:08] **diatonic> think that is the problem?
[03-Oct-2008 16:35:34] **diatonic> kotique - thanks
[03-Oct-2008 16:35:52] **kotique> ;-)
[03-Oct-2008 16:38:14] **kotique> uhh it's calling remodeling
[03-Oct-2008 16:38:20] **kotique> uhh it's called remodeling
[03-Oct-2008 23:28:54] **justizin> i've got zenoss set up with a simple http monitor using the stack deb on ubuntu, and i'm trying to figure out the simplest way to verify that it's doing anything. created a graph from the http monitor data source, it has like, a blip in it, and then nothing for a few minutes. following http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[03-Oct-2008 23:29:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Oct-2008 23:31:06] **justizin> do i need to adjust an interval on my collector(s) ? in my performance template?
[03-Oct-2008 23:34:43] **justizin> hm, looks like it. i guess HttpMonitor uses an external process, so the 'process interval' affects it. lessee if that does it.
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[04-Oct-2008 01:12:52] **justizin> alright, i have data coming in via snmp, but everything is in 5min intervals. in some cases, i want more often - what can i do?
[04-Oct-2008 01:14:36] **dorferiferon> anyone know the answer to that one, and another with data typing being an integer interpreted by zenoss as string?
[04-Oct-2008 01:15:12] **dorferiferon> please someone help me. my lighttpd connections show as millions and I know they are in the 250-300's
[04-Oct-2008 01:22:05] **justizin> how do you have zenoss monitoring lighttpd?
[04-Oct-2008 01:22:12] **justizin> 'lighttpd zenoss' doesnt come up with a lot
[04-Oct-2008 01:23:30] **justizin> in google, that is.
[04-Oct-2008 01:43:44] **dorferiferon> i have an script... gimme a sec...
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:13] **dorferiferon> output from script:
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:29] **dorferiferon> snmpwalk -c -v1 constatic1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:29] **dorferiferon> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1 = STRING: 114
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:48] **dorferiferon> dunno how to output it as an integer.
[04-Oct-2008 01:50:25] **dorferiferon> any cluez?
[04-Oct-2008 02:10:19] **justizin> well, you probably want some python code to parse that, but why not just use zenoss' snmp code, instead of wrapping snmpwalk?
[04-Oct-2008 02:10:31] **justizin> dorferiferon:
[04-Oct-2008 02:11:00] **justizin> sorry, i was poking at my own zenoss.. not able to see usage peak from backups and other maintenance running in 5min intervals. :/
[04-Oct-2008 02:11:31] **justizin> i'm touching snmp every 30s, but it doesn't seem to matter here or with http monitor, all graphs are in 5min blocks
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:42] **dorferiferon> just so you know., i think i fixed my script for lighttpd
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> [root@constatic1 snmp]# cat lighttpd-con.sh
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> #!/bin/bash
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> echo "1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1"
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> echo integer
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> echo `netstat -anp | grep lighttpd | grep ESTABLISHED | wc -l`
[04-Oct-2008 02:20:49] **dorferiferon> snmpwalk -c jcommunitname -v1 constatic1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1
[04-Oct-2008 02:20:49] **dorferiferon> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extIndex.1 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:21] **dorferiferon> oops
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:23] **dorferiferon> hit
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> [root@monitor ~]# snmpwalk -c commname -v1 constatic1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1 = STRING: 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> integer
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> 145
[04-Oct-2008 07:58:34] **justizin> i sent my load average around 60.0 and my graphs don't show more than 40, though i am polling snmp every 30s and 60ish load avg held for 2-3min easy. how can i increase the accuracy of my graphs?
[04-Oct-2008 07:58:51] **justizin> it seems at least that my rrd files or whatever have accurate data and can be better graphed later
[04-Oct-2008 08:00:01] **justizin> i did manage to reduce my idle cpu from avg / max of 364 / 396 to 0% :-D
[04-Oct-2008 09:04:42] **Han> dorferiferon1, echo `echo hello`
[04-Oct-2008 09:04:59] **Han> Rather redundant, don't you think? :-)
[04-Oct-2008 11:56:10] **raddy> per : are you there?
[04-Oct-2008 13:55:08] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[04-Oct-2008 14:25:44] **raddy> Anybody there?
[04-Oct-2008 19:21:42] **justizin> so, i'm still trying to figure out how to graph at smaller intervals than 5min, i've self inflicted a bunch of short-term problems which don't look nearly as bad on the graph as they were.. i'd be way appreciative of a little guidance.
[04-Oct-2008 19:22:29] **evil-lw> can rrdtool even do <5 min?
[04-Oct-2008 19:36:40] **MrTux> it can, but you have to rewrite many lines of code
[04-Oct-2008 19:36:52] **MrTux> justizin: for doin' so, write your own collector
[04-Oct-2008 19:37:18] **justizin> hm.
[04-Oct-2008 19:37:28] **justizin> sounds like fun!
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[05-Oct-2008 00:41:43] **evil-lw> so any hints on as to why no clear messages get generated from a zenoss install?
[05-Oct-2008 03:47:25] **raddy> Anybody there????
[05-Oct-2008 03:49:00] **evil-lw> my guess is no
[05-Oct-2008 03:54:24] **raddy> evil-lw : are you using ZenOSS?
[05-Oct-2008 03:55:19] **evil-lw> raddy: yes
[05-Oct-2008 03:55:46] **raddy> evil-lw : are you using Tomcat?
[05-Oct-2008 03:56:26] **evil-lw> what woudl tomcat have to do with zenoss?
[05-Oct-2008 04:55:40] **justizin> hm, i configured OSProcess monitors for httpd and mysqld, but Zenoss doesn't see mysqld, though I see a mysqld child of safe_mysqld
[05-Oct-2008 04:56:10] **justizin> what's interesting is that the httpd monitor changed its' name, i think, from 'httpd' to '/usr/sbin/httpd', though its' zope id is actually usr_sbin_httpd
[05-Oct-2008 04:56:45] **justizin> i tried renaming the mysqld like this, but it isn't working. i can't tell if it only wants to autodiscover the full path like that, or if it only accepts /usr/bin /usr/sbin and not /usr/libexec where mysqld lives, though i'm not sure it should..
[05-Oct-2008 04:57:12] **justizin> evil-lw: i think raddy was asking if anyone knew about monitoring tomcat with zenoss
[05-Oct-2008 05:27:28] **justizin> well, the march goes on.
[05-Oct-2008 06:38:19] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[05-Oct-2008 16:37:32] **justizin> mornin' folks. i added a new device last night, a centos5 machine which i set up the same as my RHEL5 machine. logs show SNMP connects, but I have no perf graphs - any ideas?
[05-Oct-2008 23:32:51] **justizin> hm, it seems like the ZenPack for squid is trying to pull SNMP data from the main snmpd, while squid runs its' own snmp on another port. any idea how this might be dealt with?
[05-Oct-2008 23:57:03] **justizin> ah, i need to proxy it, duh..
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[06-Oct-2008 02:49:40] **evil-lw> so regaring my issue with elerts, i found a ticket 3622 in trac stating the same thing, however i can't find anything in the source or the diff from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4 or to trunk that indicates it could be the culperate, at least in zenevents
[06-Oct-2008 06:45:44] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[06-Oct-2008 12:21:55] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[06-Oct-2008 14:15:00] **kotique> is it possible to have server in 2 classes ?
[06-Oct-2008 14:15:19] **kotique> can I have templates in groups/systems ?
[06-Oct-2008 14:21:24] **nemo2> no, no
[06-Oct-2008 14:21:29] **nemo2> as far as i know
[06-Oct-2008 15:10:48] **kotique> zenoss doesn't send emails on events :/
[06-Oct-2008 15:12:12] **nemo2> looks like someone is not reading the docs
[06-Oct-2008 15:12:19] **nemo2> and hasnt set up any alerts
[06-Oct-2008 15:15:19] **iprone_> Hello everyone...I had a question about maintenance window troubleshooting. We have a few maintenance windows setup, non-overlapping, but the devices which are associated with those windows are never going into the Maintenance state. I also never see a mention of the window in the zenactions.log. I tried running zenactions manually last night and noticed that the window did kick in, but it just seems that they won't run automatic
[06-Oct-2008 15:15:34] **kotique> uh , it was disabled
[06-Oct-2008 15:16:39] **nemo2> iprone_, is zenactions running ?
[06-Oct-2008 15:16:52] **nemo2> zenactions status as user zenoss ( i presume )
[06-Oct-2008 15:17:19] **iprone_> Yes, I do see entries in the zenactions.log and get a "program running: pid=" response when I issue the status as you just mentioned
[06-Oct-2008 15:17:47] **nemo2> perhaps its actually lying
[06-Oct-2008 15:18:03] **nemo2> try stopping, killing ( if neccesary ) ,and restarting
[06-Oct-2008 15:18:19] **nemo2> and then look at the log, preferably near a maint window.
[06-Oct-2008 15:18:57] **iprone_> Ok...I'll do that now and setup a new maintenance window around this time period. I've done an entire service restart as part of the troubleshooting...but not simply restarting zenaction.
[06-Oct-2008 15:19:23] **nemo2> well if thats where you see an issue, restarting the rest of zenoss wont matter
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:27] **nemo2> iprone_, i see issues when using the restart script
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:32] **iprone_> I'm assuming restarting the entire service would restart zenaction and hopefully would have fixed any zenaction specific process issue, otherwise I have to worry zenaction isn't performing its duty after a server restart without monitoring it out of band somehow.
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:36] **iprone_> Got ya
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:58] **nemo2> i tend to use a "clean" script, that stops,kills off straggling processes and starts again
[06-Oct-2008 15:25:46] **kotique> hey guys, how do I change hostname parameter zenoss is running on ? It's showing default hostname in emails, I want to change this.
[06-Oct-2008 15:27:46] **nemo2> iprone_, i havnt messed with windows, but perhaps you need zenstatus and not zenactions ( zenactions are performed in response to an alarm, like missing sshd ? )
[06-Oct-2008 15:27:56] **kotique> zopeurl
[06-Oct-2008 15:28:28] **kotique> damn, where do I change zopeurl ?)
[06-Oct-2008 15:30:04] **nemo2> tried googling on that ?
[06-Oct-2008 15:30:20] **nemo2> its zope specific, not zenoss in particular
[06-Oct-2008 15:57:46] **kotique> yeaa, it's zopeurl parameter in zopeactions' config file
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[06-Oct-2008 16:44:39] **iprone_> nemo2, you must have been correct, because now I am seeing it work, zenaction has an entry "DEBUG zen.Schedule: Maintenance window starting Test for Offline Backup Test" and I see the server from that group in Maintenance...so I'll do as you do, and create a wrapper script that'll handle making sure zenoss actually restarts properly next time...thanks for the help.
[06-Oct-2008 16:45:38] **nemo2> np. kool
[06-Oct-2008 17:34:56] **dorferiferon> This is a test.\
[06-Oct-2008 17:51:34] **justizin> so, over the weekend someone said that to have a higher resolution than 5min average for values plotted in rrdtool graphs, i'd have to write a new collector. i'm poking around a bit in the DataCollector product, but would appreciate any pointers as to what the limitation is.
[06-Oct-2008 17:53:34] **justizin> i see that in zenmodeler.py, it appears the data is written to rrds, but seems to be nothing about intervals.
[06-Oct-2008 17:54:15] * justizin wonders if it is how the data is written to rrd files, or how, or how often, rrdtool is invoked, since the data points seem more normalized than event log entry timestamps
[06-Oct-2008 18:01:02] **nemo2> justizin, did you read the docs ?
[06-Oct-2008 18:01:19] **nemo2> cycle time settings sounds like what your interested in
[06-Oct-2008 18:02:34] **Whitor> Hi. I just installed the ZenOSS virtual machine. I am logged in as root... but I cannot seem to locate the web login information. how do I reset this as root ?
[06-Oct-2008 18:03:21] **justizin> i adjusted cycle time settings a bit, i am polling snmp every 30s, but if during a 5min period the load goes up from 0.3 to 1.2 to 2.5 to 3.6 and onward up to 12.6 or so, i'm lucky to see a spike at 7.0 in my graphs
[06-Oct-2008 18:03:41] **justizin> the zenoss graphs of uptime look exactly the same as the system's 5min avg, so either zenoss or rrdtool is averaging the 10 values i pull every 5min.
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:20] **justizin> it would be awesome if there was a numeric value i could tweak somewhere, but someone i talked to recently said i'd have to create my own (or a modified) collector. i'm not afraid of writing code, but it's a bit to take in all at once.
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:30] **justizin> nemo2, thanks, btw
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:41] **justizin> Whitor: it's in the web ui under settings -> users
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:53] **justizin> initial login should be created as zenoss / zenoss
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:08] **justizin> or, that's how the stack installer works at least, not 100% sure about the vm.
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:14] **Whitor> justizin, Thats what I'm trying to log into ... I cant get into the Web ui w/o a username and pass
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:19] **Whitor> ahh
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:28] **Whitor> zenoss is what I was looking for
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:55] **Whitor> justizin, zenoss / zenoss didn't work
[06-Oct-2008 18:07:02] **justizin> read docs for the image, it should tell you
[06-Oct-2008 18:07:32] **Whitor> With the image are no docs ... been combing the web for 20+ minutes now
[06-Oct-2008 18:07:45] **justizin> otherwise, you can find the location of the 'zenoss' dir with Products/ and ZenPacks/ in it, and run, as user zenoss, bin/zopectl adduser username password
[06-Oct-2008 18:08:14] **justizin> Zenoss is based on Zope, and uses standardy default authentication
[06-Oct-2008 18:10:23] **justizin> you should still, once you get logged in, go in and check that there isn't a default user which might expose your system to someone else.
[06-Oct-2008 18:12:20] **Whitor> as root, can I change the password for the user zenoss ?
[06-Oct-2008 18:13:10] **cgibbons> initial login is admin / zenoss, not zenoss / zenoss
[06-Oct-2008 18:13:35] **Whitor> Oh Thank you thank you cgibbons
[06-Oct-2008 18:13:47] **Whitor> Poorly documented this...
[06-Oct-2008 18:14:32] **justizin> Whitor: as root, you can change identity to another user. you shouldn't do everything as root, at the very least because you modify files other user accounts should have access to, and may make a common non-root task require root. common bad habit.
[06-Oct-2008 18:14:57] **justizin> so, e.g., you could have sudo -u zenoss to run the command i gave, but sure, if admin/zenoss get you in, you can go and change it in web ui.
[06-Oct-2008 18:15:18] **Whitor> of course ... But I will run as root if it allows me to reset a password.... but... thanks to cgibbons, there is no need anymore
[06-Oct-2008 18:15:45] **justizin> Whitor: running Zenoss as root can break it, so you should use root access to sudo -u zenoss.
[06-Oct-2008 18:15:55] **justizin> just warning you against an issue i ran into recently.
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:03] **cgibbons> Whitor: in Friday's internal demo our new doc writer made a point of showing how the username/password default is much more obvious in the doc, not that it helps you now
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:16] **justizin> cgibbons: har
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:30] **justizin> why not publish draft documentation?
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:38] **cgibbons> we do
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:45] **justizin> oh
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:46] **Whitor> cgibbons, there are no docs that come with the Virtual machine downloadable from VMWare's site
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:49] **justizin> yeh i suppose it's still too late ;d
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:16] **Whitor> and the vmware site gives the root / nopass login for console access
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:27] **Whitor> not the webui pass
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:44] **krphop> there is no console anymore
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:55] **Whitor> there should be a startup / info doc with the VM
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:03] **krphop> vmware 2.0 now uses just a web interface
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:24] **Whitor> not just the two vmx / vmdk files
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:32] **cgibbons> There's certainly http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs to look at...
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:44] **adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:48] **justizin> and a ton of useful info there, too, cgibbons
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:49] **Whitor> krphop, you still have console access with Vmware 2.0 ... that is what I'm running
[06-Oct-2008 18:19:11] **krphop> maybe i just have an outdated console that doenst work with 2.0 then, lol
[06-Oct-2008 18:20:22] **cgibbons> i think you two might be talking about different things. Whitor is talking about shell access no? and krphop you're talking about the VMware management interface?
[06-Oct-2008 18:20:44] **krphop> o
[06-Oct-2008 18:21:10] **krphop> err yeah, that makes sense now, i'm just way to tired
[06-Oct-2008 18:21:30] **Whitor> the management interface for vmware is strictly Web based now
[06-Oct-2008 18:21:41] **krphop> thats what i ment
[06-Oct-2008 18:23:15] **Whitor> ya, vmware works great. Didn't like the web administration interface at forst... but it seems to work ok
[06-Oct-2008 18:24:26] **krphop> its a bit slow, i definetly dont like how they removed/changed most of the command line utilities though
[06-Oct-2008 18:26:13] * justizin prefer parallels on osx, but trying to move dev vms to xen on rhel5 box
[06-Oct-2008 18:27:01] **justizin> you are talking about esx, eh? i have heard some interesting things but can't imagine depending on a commercial solution to run linux dev vms on a linux box ;d
[06-Oct-2008 18:27:15] **krphop> given you dont need cross platform, im a fan of openvz
[06-Oct-2008 18:27:33] **krphop> most people hate me for liking container based virt, but its pretty fast
[06-Oct-2008 18:30:58] **justizin> sounds reasonable enough. i also need a windows vm, though..
[06-Oct-2008 18:31:14] **krphop> kvm?
[06-Oct-2008 18:31:25] **krphop> esxi works ok, its got some hitches
[06-Oct-2008 18:32:04] **justizin> xen should be able to listen for vnc to get through install, and then i can use rdp, but it's poorly documented, should be better in rhel6 from what i read..
[06-Oct-2008 18:32:30] **krphop> rhel6 is including xen?
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:08] **justizin> rhel5 includes xen, but you have to add a channel
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:18] **justizin> it is, however, not 100% supported
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:41] **justizin> rhel6 will have a new system alongside xen, both configured via libvirt with compatible images, but the new system only works on cpus with virtualization extensions..
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:54] **justizin> supposed to be much lighter weight and much better for power savings than paravirt like xen
[06-Oct-2008 18:34:09] **justizin> and xen will still be there.
[06-Oct-2008 18:47:24] **kgoedtel1> i was at the red hat 2008 road tour and they made it pretty obvious they don't plan to support xen post RHEL5 in favor of kvm
[06-Oct-2008 18:47:59] **kgoedtel1> other than it 'being available'
[06-Oct-2008 18:48:04] **kgoedtel1> but not recommended
[06-Oct-2008 18:49:51] **kotique> better they include VZ
[06-Oct-2008 18:49:54] **kgoedtel1> but yeah, they will both be compatible with libvirt and all the virt mgr tools
[06-Oct-2008 19:08:57] **justizin> kgoedtel1: yesh, but that's no change from its' current status.
[06-Oct-2008 19:09:37] **justizin> in that it's available, if you can get access to your RHN profile, and ill documented
[06-Oct-2008 19:10:03] **justizin> since both will use libvirt, it seems to follow that libvirt docs will improve.
[06-Oct-2008 19:10:18] **justizin> currently the documentation pretty much only tells you how to use a gui tool that is very stubborn about running over ssh.
[06-Oct-2008 19:10:38] **justizin> the cmdline tools have to be explored and googled for threads on
[06-Oct-2008 19:14:43] **kgoedtel1> true
[06-Oct-2008 19:15:14] **kgoedtel1> the documentation is actually wrong in quite a few places
[06-Oct-2008 19:15:40] **kgoedtel1> we run everything on xen here and a lot of the learning was just trial and error because of said poor documentation
[06-Oct-2008 19:16:59] **justizin> yah the #rhel channel on freenode has been helpful
[06-Oct-2008 19:17:07] **justizin> i found some tuts and whatnot, just, yanno, it's in "the pile" :-P
[06-Oct-2008 19:24:11] **Whitor> Can someone recommend a good resource for reading about how to use zenoss ?
[06-Oct-2008 19:24:41] **justizin> i usually just google "zenoss" with other words related to what i want to do
[06-Oct-2008 19:26:16] **Whitor> trying to login to the Rpath Appliance platform now
[06-Oct-2008 19:29:16] **Whitor> lol, trying to find the user/pass for the rpath appliance login, The first link I click on has the user/pass for default install of the VM Zenoss . Exactly what I was trying to find before
[06-Oct-2008 19:30:11] **justizin> rpath probably has docs online
[06-Oct-2008 19:30:20] **justizin> there is some mention of appliance differences in community docs
[06-Oct-2008 19:32:44] **Whitor> found it.... admin / password
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[06-Oct-2008 19:41:51] **justizin> is it possible to run zenhubs as peers for redundancy, e.g. so that if one machine goes down, the other can continue monitoring?
[06-Oct-2008 19:42:36] **justizin> looking at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[06-Oct-2008 19:42:42] **adytum-bot> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Oct-2008 19:43:28] **iprone_> Hello again...I was curious to know if there's a way to debug Zenoss and find out why a snmp process match is failing. For example, I have a process regex for "java -" and what's being matched to that process is "/bin/sh" (ignore parameters set to true). It almost seems like the process list is escaping a character somewhere and causing this mismatch to occur.
[06-Oct-2008 19:47:21] **iprone_> well...as long as i sat here debating whether to post that...i just answered my own question.../bin/sh is the first part of a process in which "java -" is listed, its just not being shown.
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[07-Oct-2008 13:13:52] **mshundal> ola, anyone know of how to supress the /status/wmi/conn messages?
[07-Oct-2008 13:14:14] **mshundal> or even downgrade the severity
[07-Oct-2008 13:44:04] **|-Rkoz-|> i was reading through some chat logs last night and i found an article that started to describe how to disable snmp monitoring....can't find it now but i want to do some ping only tests and could use someone to point me in the correct direction
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:16] **mshundal> easy
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:33] **mshundal> go to zproperties of the device class you want to ping only
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:37] **mshundal> and disable it there
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:39] **mshundal> OR
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:41] **mshundal> best yet
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:50] **mshundal> move these devices to class /ping
[07-Oct-2008 14:34:19] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Oct-2008 14:34:29] **raddy> Anybody out there???
[07-Oct-2008 14:35:11] **bazinski> yip, hi raddy
[07-Oct-2008 14:35:37] **raddy> bazinski : Hi
[07-Oct-2008 14:36:15] **raddy> bazinski : can you explian me how to use this example http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/ch15s02.html
[07-Oct-2008 14:36:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2008 14:37:46] **bazinski> old on let me pull it up, in south africa, and our internet is !#@$!@#$!@#$ slow
[07-Oct-2008 14:37:51] **raddy> bazinski : my doubt is, where to specify real value in (here/manageIp)
[07-Oct-2008 14:38:37] **raddy> bazinski : in Device template or in Custom Schema of the device?
[07-Oct-2008 14:41:32] **|-Rkoz-|> mshundal: Thanks for the response. I also found when I add a device, i can change "discovery protocol" to none....but thank you again
[07-Oct-2008 14:42:54] **bazinski> raddy: good question ;-)
[07-Oct-2008 14:44:37] **bazinski> raddy: device template
[07-Oct-2008 14:45:38] **mshundal> np
[07-Oct-2008 14:46:05] **mshundal> raddy: aye this needs to be done per device; reason i scrapped it in favor of another product
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:03] **raddy> bazinski : i see vi in httpd apache class
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:08] **raddy> bazinski
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:25] **sstringham> Hello, I am trying to set up a memory leak detection setup in zenoss. I go into the process I am monitoring, into template, create a local copy of OSprocess, and add a threshold. Is "150M" a good maximum value, or should it be "150000"?
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:29] **raddy> bazinski : but i am not able to see it in ps
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:50] **raddy> bazinski : what it would be?
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:54] **sstringham> I can't seem to get it to generate an event.
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:19] **d1nker> http://pastebin.com/m5ce18281
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:26] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:27] **d1nker> can someone tell me how to get rid of these errors
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:53] **d1nker> I can't seem to find anything on google or the zenoss forum
[07-Oct-2008 14:59:03] **d1nker> CentOS 5.2 and rpm 2.2.4 install
[07-Oct-2008 14:59:49] **raddy> bazinski : can we able to monitor tomcat presence/absence via ZenOSS
[07-Oct-2008 15:07:38] **sstringham> okay, so I got it to generate an alert when memory is exceeded like I wanted. Is there a way to monitor any instance of this OSprocess' memory usage, rather than on a per-device setup?
[07-Oct-2008 15:08:31] **bazinski> raddy: of course, its just a process like any other
[07-Oct-2008 15:09:05] **raddy> bazinski : little complicated, a Java process
[07-Oct-2008 15:09:30] **raddy> bazinski : Tomcat is not correctly detecting it
[07-Oct-2008 15:10:48] **sstringham> raddy: you should be able to monitor it either as an IPService, or as a process.
[07-Oct-2008 15:11:19] **raddy> sstringham : can help in IPService method?
[07-Oct-2008 15:12:53] **sstringham> I can point, probably not "help"
[07-Oct-2008 15:13:02] **sstringham> But in zport/dmd/Services/IpService , create a new IpService
[07-Oct-2008 15:13:57] **sstringham> Call it Tomcat. Click on the new link at top of the list, edit, set the port, send string and expect regexp.
[07-Oct-2008 15:14:41] **sstringham> That is about it.
[07-Oct-2008 15:15:52] **raddy> sstringham : wowww
[07-Oct-2008 15:38:28] **cgibbons> tada
[07-Oct-2008 15:43:46] **mshundal> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Terrorist+And+Disrupted+Activities+Act+(India)
[07-Oct-2008 15:43:53] **adytum-bot> Title: Terrorist And Disrupted Activities Act (India - What does Terrorist And Disrupted Activities Act (India stand for? Acronyms and abbreviations by the Free Online Dictionary. (at acronyms.thefreedictionary.com)
[07-Oct-2008 16:17:22] **evil-lw> can somebody provide me an example alerting rule that they recieve clears messages with?
[07-Oct-2008 17:47:37] **cr03> So, anybody use cmd and snmp simultaneously? Seems like even though there's a lot of overlap in the info you get back, it might be advantageous to create a custom class that does both for my linux hosts.
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[07-Oct-2008 18:40:24] **bbentley> Is there any way to access other Performance Data Sources from a Performance Data Source Command?
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[07-Oct-2008 21:53:39] **Demerzel> hello folks
[07-Oct-2008 21:55:09] **Demerzel> got a quick question for those in the know ... i'm playing with zenoss core running on centos5 and have just discovered a network. However I'm not sure it used the right snmp read-only community string. all the hosts i've looked at so far all seem to be complaining about snmp being down probably for the same reason. where would i go to set up the global snmp read-only community string?
[07-Oct-2008 21:57:54] **Demerzel> anyone?
[07-Oct-2008 21:58:22] **therealnemo> my advice is read the answer
[07-Oct-2008 21:58:57] **therealnemo> people dont answer you because you will be back in 2 secs with another question from the next chapter in the manual
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:37] **Demerzel>
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:40] **therealnemo> read the manual** doh
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:41] **therealnemo> tired
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:51] **Demerzel> i've combed the manual as best as i can
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:02] **therealnemo> find another profession maybe
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:06] **therealnemo> its a big world
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:11] **Demerzel> zenoss administration etc
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:22] **Demerzel> i haven't found any info on global snmp community strings unfortunately
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:43] **therealnemo> ok, heres a clue, but really this is my parting gift to you
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:43] **Demerzel> look .. if you're not interested in actually providing any answesr, please be quiet
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:55] **therealnemo> ok i will be quiet
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:58] **therealnemo> good luck
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:03] **Demerzel> i come on these channels to get and provide answers
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:07] **Demerzel> not to be lectured
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:22] **therealnemo> kool ,carry on i will be quiet, good luck.
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:34] **Demerzel> wow
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:09] **Demerzel> nice
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:25] **Demerzel> found the answer
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:44] **therealnemo> xan i be uniquet now ?
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:46] **therealnemo> can
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:51] **therealnemo> unqiet ..
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:55] **Demerzel> i suppose
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:57] **therealnemo> yeh you know what i mean
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:01] **Demerzel> just try to be helpful
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:05] **Demerzel>
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:06] **therealnemo> i am glad you found the answer yourself.
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:10] **therealnemo> its a healthy thing
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:17] **Demerzel> *sigh*
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:20] **therealnemo> and its the corner stone of how zenoss works
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:56] **therealnemo> lol
[07-Oct-2008 22:09:24] **Demerzel> i don't appreciate the condescension
[07-Oct-2008 22:09:46] **therealnemo> ok
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:04] **Demerzel> i've been evaluating monitoring ~8 different monitoring products over the past few weeks and every one has different ways of doing things
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:20] **Demerzel> the zenoss administration guide isn't the most friendly text
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:28] **therealnemo> i agree entirely
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:47] **Demerzel> i've written monitoring products from scratch and know my way around systems with absolute comfort
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:58] **Demerzel> so when i turn to humans to answer a question it's after lots of research
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:08] **therealnemo> quit whining you tard
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:14] **Demerzel> and i expect a human to help out the same way i'd help others
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:26] **therealnemo> you want me to work for you and answer a basic noob question
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:32] **Demerzel> no
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:39] **therealnemo> well if it wasnt the 100th time i might be interested
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:39] **Demerzel> if it's a basic noob question it's not work is it?
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:53] **Demerzel> just making a point that's all
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:53] **therealnemo> you are zero to me
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:57] **therealnemo> i owe you zip
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:01] **Demerzel> agreed
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:04] **therealnemo> so dont claim what isnt yours
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:08] **Demerzel> and i don't owe you anything either
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:15] **therealnemo> i was just aboutto tell you it was zproperties you needed
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:32] **Demerzel> but then neither do the zenoss guys who've made their product open source .. for what?
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:37] **Demerzel> i know it was a zproperty
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:38] **therealnemo> but you were being pissy so i left you to it , a capable guy like you used google and suddenly found the answer
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:44] **Demerzel> sicne i'd set it on an individual device
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:48] **Demerzel> but not on a global level
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:50] **therealnemo> after "combing" the manual
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:08] **Demerzel> hardly google ...
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:11] **Demerzel> i found human help
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:18] **Demerzel> google's surprisingly short on detail about zenoss
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:19] **therealnemo> i find you offensive
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:25] **therealnemo> i dont want you to talk to me any more
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:30] **therealnemo> i am putting you on ignore
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:32] **Demerzel> ok
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:43] **Demerzel> checking ignore status
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:46] **Demerzel> :-P
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:09] **daMaestro> is there any way to turn off zenwin monitoring of windows device?
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:14] **daMaestro> devices*
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:25] **daMaestro> i'd like to just use snmp, not zenwin
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:55] **daMaestro> is it zWinEventlog ?
[07-Oct-2008 23:23:15] **daMaestro> ah, it is
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[08-Oct-2008 00:17:01] **rhett> hello, any one know what is causing the following error when i try to send a test message?: Test failed: socket.gaierror - (-2, \'Name or service not known\')
[08-Oct-2008 00:51:04] **evil-lw> so i've finally figured out why i'm not getting clear messages
[08-Oct-2008 00:51:09] **evil-lw> evid's don't match
[08-Oct-2008 01:04:36] **cr03> Demerzel: If you're still having problems pulling data from your snmp daemons, use the snmpwalk command to test them independent of ZenOSS.
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[08-Oct-2008 02:53:54] **evil-lw> the evid's do not match, but the select to find objects to alert on expects history and alert_status to actually have the same bloody evid
[08-Oct-2008 03:36:53] **evil-lw> found my problem, old events db schema
[08-Oct-2008 03:37:00] **evil-lw> it only took two weeks or so....
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[08-Oct-2008 05:00:59] **raddy> Anybody there?
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[08-Oct-2008 06:10:52] **raddy> Hi npmccallum
[08-Oct-2008 11:56:54] **raddy> Anybody there?
[08-Oct-2008 12:20:23] **npmccallum> raddy: yup
[08-Oct-2008 14:14:29] **mshundal> fgh
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[08-Oct-2008 16:40:26] **nemo_> anyone here monitoring tftp as a service, if so how ?
[08-Oct-2008 19:03:58] **boingolov> say for instance I wanted zenoss to ignore filesystem full messages for /cdrom for example
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:02] **boingolov> what would be the easiest way to do that?
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:31] **therealnemo> zproperties->map ignore
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:35] **therealnemo> on the device class
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:38] **therealnemo> es
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:09] **therealnemo> might be fs map ignore, or similar
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:26] **boingolov> great, I see that
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:27] **boingolov> thank you
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:35] **therealnemo> your welcome
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:46] **therealnemo> dont spose you monitor a tftp service ?
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:08] **boingolov> not at the moment, no
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:13] **therealnemo> i am trying to find others doing it in zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:28] **therealnemo> might have to do it by ssh , was hoping not
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:42] **therealnemo> it exists in services->ipservices
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:43] **boingolov> we're about to set up a server for doing netbooting , but I'm not sure we'll care enough about it to monitor. it will only be for initial server installs so if it goes down, no big deal
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:08] **therealnemo> but it doesnt get detected with the 2 ip services collectors
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:26] **therealnemo> ours has been down before and that made us care
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:31] **boingolov> haha
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:41] **boingolov> tftp uses udp, right?
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:45] **therealnemo> yup
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:47] **therealnemo> 69
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:18] **therealnemo> id really like to do it the zenoss way
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:26] **therealnemo> i dont want ssh scripts checking everything
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:28] **therealnemo> if poss
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:34] **boingolov> I guess that makes it slightly hard to monitor at least on the connection level, whatever is doing the monitoring would have to be at least somewhat protocol aware
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:07] **therealnemo> yeh i can see the issue, but i am a positive person
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:19] **therealnemo> hoping someone else did it on zenoss before me
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:25] **boingolov> wouldn't be too hard though to possibly write a simple script to try to download a known small file and return status
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:48] **therealnemo> yeh i know, i guess i could just run a script straight on the zenoss master
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:52] **boingolov> the script would just call some tftp client program in that case
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:58] **boingolov> yeah, that's what I'm thinking
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:58] **therealnemo> and have it raise an event through REST
[08-Oct-2008 19:10:34] **therealnemo> i think thats ok , cus its all on zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 19:10:40] **therealnemo> and will survive an upgrade
[08-Oct-2008 19:24:26] **boingolov> later, good luck
[08-Oct-2008 19:24:28] **boingolov> thanks again
[08-Oct-2008 19:27:32] **kgoedtel1> also wtf is this sound port thing on it
[08-Oct-2008 19:27:38] **kgoedtel1> oops mistell
[08-Oct-2008 19:31:31] **mshundal> lol mistell
[08-Oct-2008 19:31:32] **mshundal> wow
[08-Oct-2008 19:32:57] **kgoedtel1> was referring to what i found out to be SPDIF on this video card i just got haha
[08-Oct-2008 19:33:17] **kgoedtel1> for hdmi out
[08-Oct-2008 19:57:34] **EricL> I am having a tough time getting through the install process (and I am using RPMs). I am trying to install zenoss 2.2.4.el5_x86_64
[08-Oct-2008 19:58:01] **EricL> On CentOS 5.2
[08-Oct-2008 19:58:19] **rhett> what issues are you having
[08-Oct-2008 19:58:24] **EricL> The install doc is missing a lot of installs deps and I found all of them except zeoctl
[08-Oct-2008 20:04:03] **EricL> I get zeoctl not found when I try to start with the /etc/init.d/zenoss .
[08-Oct-2008 20:05:53] **rhett> is zeoctl in /opt/zenoss/bin/ ?
[08-Oct-2008 20:07:22] **rhett> you could also do an 'updatedb' and then 'locate zeoctl'
[08-Oct-2008 20:10:23] **therealnemo> EricL, sounds like it didnt install properly
[08-Oct-2008 20:10:51] **therealnemo> personally i would start again, make sure theres no root password on your mysql server\
[08-Oct-2008 21:28:31] **EricL> rhett: There is no zeoctl when I do a locate.
[08-Oct-2008 21:28:56] **rhett> id appears therealnemo was on the right track and your install is fubared
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:06] **EricL> Hmmm, I installed using the rpm.
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:11] **EricL> I reinstalled twice.
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:19] **rhett> hm
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:23] **EricL> (Did an rpm -e first though)
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:27] **EricL> I'll try for a third time.
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:28] **rhett> rpm -e zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:33] **rhett> rm -rf /opt/zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:58] **rhett> make sure you have mysql mysql server and gmp installed
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:03] **rhett> mysql-server
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:15] **rhett> are you installing as root?
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:23] **EricL> rhett: They are and yes.
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:27] **rhett> or sudo?
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:29] **rhett> k
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:30] **rhett> odd
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:50] **EricL> Nope root
[08-Oct-2008 21:32:05] **rhett> hm
[08-Oct-2008 21:32:29] **rhett> i literally finished installed the 64 2.2.4 rpm on a centos 5.2 vm about an hour ago
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:13] **rhett> and i've covered the basics of what i have done w/ all the installations ive done
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:24] **EricL> Let me try deleting the user and starting completely from scratch.
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:39] **EricL> I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:46] **EricL> Thanks for the help.
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[08-Oct-2008 22:52:23] **dfranco> hello all
[08-Oct-2008 23:00:30] **rhett> hello
[08-Oct-2008 23:10:27] **dfranco> this is very quiet
[08-Oct-2008 23:12:40] **rhett> yes
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[09-Oct-2008 00:58:42] **mistat> Hello, anyone else having issues with Zenoss 2.2.4 not adding devices?
[09-Oct-2008 01:00:04] **perr> not really did you follow the directions
[09-Oct-2008 01:00:57] **mistat> I was using 2.2.3 fine (CentOS5.2) and uninstalled it. Then I installed 2.2.4, and since have had issues adding devices.
[09-Oct-2008 01:01:08] **mistat> according to the mailing list, a few others have had issues too
[09-Oct-2008 01:01:18] **mistat> thought I'd drop past here to see if anyone has found a solution
[09-Oct-2008 01:01:59] **perr> looks like you wont have a definitive answer til thursday
[09-Oct-2008 01:02:13] **perr> did you check the forums also
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[09-Oct-2008 06:17:50] **uwe> hello, i have a device that i can reach with ping (among other tests) but zenoss is not updating it and insists its status is down, modeling is not helping and its been reachable for a while ( a couple of days now!!)
[09-Oct-2008 06:17:54] **uwe> what can i do ?
[09-Oct-2008 07:26:03] **raddy> Hello Everynbody
[09-Oct-2008 07:26:09] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[09-Oct-2008 10:12:36] **thrope> hi - is it possible to use kerberos for user authentication in the web client with zenoss?
[09-Oct-2008 10:20:24] **nemo_> if you can use it with zope yes
[09-Oct-2008 10:20:31] **nemo_> zenoss runs on a zope server
[09-Oct-2008 10:20:47] **thrope> ok - I'm having trouble finding any information but I have asked in the zope channel
[09-Oct-2008 10:22:18] **nemo_> i doubt anyone here can answer, but good luck
[09-Oct-2008 10:24:18] **thrope> do you know how zenoss works by default? cgi, fastcgi, mod_proxy?
[09-Oct-2008 10:26:11] **thrope> looks like I can use a "remote user folder" and let apache authenticate (http auth) through the apache kerberos module
[09-Oct-2008 10:26:15] **thrope> hopefully :|
[09-Oct-2008 10:27:17] **nemo_> good luck with that
[09-Oct-2008 10:27:20] **nemo_> brave man
[09-Oct-2008 10:28:46] **thrope> i don't suppose you know if zenoss has an option like "auto add users" - apparently plone does
[09-Oct-2008 10:57:17] **lpe> Regarding migration from nagios to zenoss I got two questions for you lot: 1) can you add different users to be able to logon the webinterface and see the host and specify wich host one can view? 2) does it come with some kind of languagepack, (see swedish)?
[09-Oct-2008 10:59:26] **lpe> we're selling surveillance at the time of writing using nagios, but the webinterface only comes in english, but it is possible to make a user view only his machine(s)
[09-Oct-2008 11:03:43] **MrTux> lpe: for the specialised views you need the enterprise version...
[09-Oct-2008 11:05:22] **lpe> that's sad
[09-Oct-2008 11:23:20] **nemo_> i use ent
[09-Oct-2008 11:23:37] **nemo_> i know views are there, not sure if it does multiple languages
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:24] **lpe> I've been searching for an answer, but it seems I'm failing
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:40] **lpe> aint there a way for you to see if it's possible?
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:46] **nemo_> not really
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:53] **lpe> blast
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:54] **nemo_> i got a job and i do work for them
[09-Oct-2008 11:25:35] **lpe> well obviously
[09-Oct-2008 11:26:45] **nemo_> lol
[09-Oct-2008 14:37:17] **soetesti> Can anybody help me to get the 'zenPath' via REST request?
[09-Oct-2008 14:38:04] **soetesti> zenPath like /usr/local/zenoss
[09-Oct-2008 15:01:59] **mrayzenoss> Good morning everybody.
[09-Oct-2008 15:02:07] **mrayzenoss> And good afternoon if you're in Europe
[09-Oct-2008 15:03:46] **mrayzenoss> Wow, kinda quiet. I guess everyone's happy with their Zenoss install
[09-Oct-2008 15:03:55] **__ian__> Sweet. I'm taking the day off.
[09-Oct-2008 15:04:07] **mrayzenoss> Anybody going to Ohio LinuxFest this weekend?
[09-Oct-2008 15:12:51] **chadwick> there we go
[09-Oct-2008 15:13:50] **nemo_> lol
[09-Oct-2008 15:14:17] **nemo_> plenty of euros here mrayzenoss
[09-Oct-2008 15:16:01] **zzaflemi> Test.......
[09-Oct-2008 15:16:31] **chadwick> nice and quiet this morning
[09-Oct-2008 15:17:01] **zzaflemi> I've got a question I think then
[09-Oct-2008 15:17:07] **chadwick> woohoo
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:00] **zzaflemi> lol, In the list of interfaces on the OS tab I have noticed that there is the green/red dot for Operationally and Administratively up or down
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:16] **zzaflemi> those only seem to get updated when I remodel the device
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:47] **chadwick> right
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:56] **zzaflemi> since the snmppref runs every 5 mins to get stats would it be possible to have it check interface status when that is running and update it
[09-Oct-2008 15:19:54] **zzaflemi> I never really saw it as an issue, but our helpdesk manager got confused and asked about it.
[09-Oct-2008 15:20:14] **chadwick> it'll change of course when modeling auto-runs
[09-Oct-2008 15:20:42] **chadwick> that's come up before, let me double check with peeps to see if there is a reason it doesn't collect that oid with the perf data
[09-Oct-2008 15:21:18] **zzaflemi> well the system uptime is updated each time the stats are pulled even tho that is on a different tab of the device, which is why I asked.
[09-Oct-2008 15:21:24] **chadwick> *nod*
[09-Oct-2008 15:22:52] **zzaflemi> Should I open an enhancement request for that to track finding more out about the issue/changes needed?
[09-Oct-2008 15:23:57] **chadwick> i've got that question down and i can follow up with you, and then we can open one up if there isn't already one for it or a good reason?
[09-Oct-2008 15:24:06] **chadwick> (looking through the code / talking to peeps not)
[09-Oct-2008 15:24:34] **zzaflemi> *nod*
[09-Oct-2008 15:25:21] **boingolov> after I add an MIB file I notice that it doesn't start translating the messages until I restart zenoss . I'm reasonably sure this isn't necessary, is there a specific daemon I could restart or some more graceful way of handling this?
[09-Oct-2008 15:26:19] **chadwick> i would think zenevent or zope but let me check
[09-Oct-2008 15:27:00] **zzaflemi> I'm not one of the devs, but I just restating zentrap seems to work for me when I add a MIB
[09-Oct-2008 15:30:18] **boingolov> thanks
[09-Oct-2008 15:30:20] **boingolov> I will try that
[09-Oct-2008 15:34:30] **zzaflemi> chadwich I guess my e-mail address would help for following up on the Interface status question. afleming@kanren.net
[09-Oct-2008 15:34:40] **chadwick> ok cool, got it
[09-Oct-2008 15:39:17] **zzaflemi> Does anyone know of any good articles or postings about pulling the route tables via SSH? I've got 8 backbone routers which are Foundry and have a full Internet 1 and Internet 2 routing table. Using SSH and a plugin seems like the best way and maybe the only way to pull in the Local and OSPF route entries since the routing table is so big.
[09-Oct-2008 15:41:27] **chadwick> article meaning how you'd do it using a ssh datasource within zenoss?
[09-Oct-2008 15:42:01] **chadwick> and would you actually want to be pulling routes out of the data to put into the zenoss model?
[09-Oct-2008 15:42:59] **zzaflemi> well there is not much info in the administrators guide about using SSH. I found one plugin for getting the routing table via SSH, but not had any luck getting it to even connect to the router when I run a model yet
[09-Oct-2008 15:44:31] **zzaflemi> These routers have oh about 200K route entries via BGP, but our OSPF routes for the network are about 300. And I have to populate the route entries for the devices for the layer 3 dependancy checking to work right in Zenoss. (If I could just manually define a "parent host" or dependancies it would not be necessary.)
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:00] **monrad> zzaflemi: well it could get kinda boring with lots of hosts
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:37] **monrad> and tricky with ring topologys
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:38] **zzaflemi> I don't understand boring with lots of hosts?
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:46] **monrad> to do it manual
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:49] **zzaflemi> oh manually defining dependancies
[09-Oct-2008 15:46:02] **zzaflemi> yea, but we have to right now with Nagios so its not any worse
[09-Oct-2008 15:46:29] **monrad> are they xmr,mlxs or something older?
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:22] **zzaflemi> and it actually seems like more work to manually create transform rules for layer 2 dependancies then it would be to add all of them manually into a field on each device
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:23] **monrad> we run a few xmr's and hp's (rebranded bigirons)
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:34] **zzaflemi> The foundries are XMRs
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:58] **zzaflemi> Foundry Networks, Inc. NetIron XMR, IronWare Version V3.7.0cT163 Compiled on Mar 18 2008 at 13:59:23 labeled as V3.7.00c
[09-Oct-2008 15:48:31] **monrad> those are nice
[09-Oct-2008 15:49:21] **zzaflemi> yea except my problem is since they form the backbone ring I have to something about adding route entries to them for the dependancy checking (and thus maintenance windows) to work right
[09-Oct-2008 15:49:56] **chadwick> have you looked at the standard plugins that do ssh right now, zzaflemi?
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:07] **zzaflemi> And with with some pop moves that have happened the routing enviroment is not the cleanest and would need to add most of the 300 OSPF routes we have to all 8 of them
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:20] **muppethouse> here is a way to manually create a device dependency
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:22] **muppethouse> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-a-device-dependency/
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:37] **adytum-bot> Title: Create a device dependency - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:57] **zzaflemi> yea I've found that before, but that might be more work then adding the route entries manually to be honest.
[09-Oct-2008 15:51:18] **zzaflemi> so what do you mean by the standard SSH plugins I guess?
[09-Oct-2008 15:52:28] **chadwick> like linux2.py and darwin.py in zenplugins/zenoss/plugins - they do basic command execution for linux & darwin servers, might be a good model to use as a template
[09-Oct-2008 15:52:58] **zzaflemi> Ok, now I follow, I haven't used them yet but have found them.
[09-Oct-2008 15:53:56] **zzaflemi> What I already see in my list of plugins (maybe from one of the zen packs) is an OspfRouteMap and StaticRouteMap that are ssh based.
[09-Oct-2008 15:54:29] **zzaflemi> just have not been able to make them actually work, but I'll try the linux ones on a linux host then to see if I can get any of them to work
[09-Oct-2008 16:00:15] **mrayzenoss> Well, this has been a nice quiet session, I have to drop off for another meeting. chadwick will stick around for a bit
[09-Oct-2008 16:00:23] **chadwick> yup
[09-Oct-2008 16:15:42] **rhett> for my darwin boxes, is there a way to not have /dev be part of the usage thresholds? i also have a similar issue w/ TUN interfaces on routers and zenoss spitting out utilization overage events since these interfaces do not have a speed tied to them.
[09-Oct-2008 16:27:41] **boingolov> rhett, you can set that as a zProperties for the class, zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:03] **rhett> boingolov: thats what i thought, i added /dev into there but i still get events
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:07] **rhett> do i have to remodel the devices?
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:21] **boingolov> you should be able to push changes
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:41] **boingolov> I _think_ that will get it
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:49] **rhett> hm
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:50] **rhett> k
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:52] **rhett> i didnt do that
[09-Oct-2008 16:35:01] **rhett> hm, that didnt appear to work
[09-Oct-2008 16:35:24] **rhett> pushed the changes, moved the events to history and they just came back
[09-Oct-2008 16:46:20] **boingolov> zenmodeler run --path=/Devices/Server/Whatever --collect=HRFileSystemMap
[09-Oct-2008 16:46:21] **boingolov> that might work
[09-Oct-2008 16:46:30] **boingolov> should remodel all of them in one swoop
[09-Oct-2008 16:58:57] **therealnemo> score boingolov
[09-Oct-2008 18:56:56] **texasthunder> hi guys
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:04] **rhett> hi
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:09] **texasthunder> how do limit the number of days i see in event console?
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:28] **texasthunder> right now its going back about a month i think
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:43] **texasthunder> new and acked
[09-Oct-2008 20:22:51] **sstringham> Man, I am having some odd problems with the disk-io collector setup on my RedHat machines. Some work, some say the OID is bad. Both are using the same script to generate the oids (parsing /proc/diskstats)
[09-Oct-2008 20:24:26] **sstringham> I am trying to use the setup outlined here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=21604#21604
[09-Oct-2008 20:24:40] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Q for devs - Broken functionality or incorrect forum post?? (at forums.zenoss.com)
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[10-Oct-2008 05:57:14] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[10-Oct-2008 05:58:09] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[10-Oct-2008 05:58:29] **raddy> How to monitor incoming connections via Zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 06:57:42] **raddy> Anybody out there???
[10-Oct-2008 11:13:08] **Yotus> Hello, Is there any way to define which links should be visible on the Google Map between the Locations I've defined?
[10-Oct-2008 12:31:36] **Yotus> As far as I can read the links between the locations/devices is determined using layer 3 routing information. How far in the development process are Zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 12:43:46] **nemo_> basic issue i have seen, if you dont have snmp etc on all routers etc
[10-Oct-2008 12:44:03] **nemo_> then zenoss doesnt know your net work topology
[10-Oct-2008 12:44:39] **nemo_> are you getting warnings of device xxx not in topology ?
[10-Oct-2008 12:45:46] **Yotus> No ..
[10-Oct-2008 12:46:23] **monrad> or if you have routers with large feeds
[10-Oct-2008 12:46:54] **Yotus> Well, we have snmp on all our routers and switches, but i'm just not that interested in seing the layer 3 link information, i would much rather want the layer 2 (or 1) link ..
[10-Oct-2008 12:47:42] **Yotus> Just a manual low tech solution of the relationsships would satisfy me atm
[10-Oct-2008 12:47:49] **nemo_> so go for it
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:00] **nemo_> you can put that info in by hand i believe
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:12] **nemo_> but i am waiting to get it all automatically
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:50] **monrad> i think they are working on layer2
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:57] **Yotus> Well, i've approx. 1400 devices i would off course love to see it automatically.. but manual could be ok
[10-Oct-2008 12:50:30] **Yotus> i've seen a use test of layer 2 in dev version in Products/ZenModel/tests/testLinking.py .. so I hope that they work on it =)
[10-Oct-2008 15:04:46] **boingolov> is there a way with zensyslog to filter the severity of a specific host? say for instnace I have one box that's overly chatty, sends lots of "info" level stuff to the syslog and I don't have the option to tune it at the remote end
[10-Oct-2008 15:05:24] **boingolov> failing that, is there an easy way to switch the default "Event Console" view severity filter from Info to Warning
[10-Oct-2008 15:36:54] **nemo_> boingolov, tranforms
[10-Oct-2008 15:38:18] **boingolov> nemo_, will look into it
[10-Oct-2008 15:38:18] **boingolov> thanks
[10-Oct-2008 15:39:55] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[10-Oct-2008 15:41:48] **raddy> Is it possible monitor number of incoming network connections to a device?
[10-Oct-2008 15:52:50] **raddy> Anybody there???
[10-Oct-2008 16:01:11] **dorferiferon> raddy: you can do it through remote commands, or I like to call a script from snmpd as an exec scriptname.sh
[10-Oct-2008 16:02:05] **raddy> dorferiferon : so, not directly via ZenOSS data sources?
[10-Oct-2008 16:02:45] **dorferiferon> i am not sure. i use it for specific questions, and that is not very specific.
[10-Oct-2008 16:03:10] **dorferiferon> there are some connection counters in the ucd-snmp mib
[10-Oct-2008 16:03:55] **raddy> dorferiferon : do you have any experience with Zabbix?
[10-Oct-2008 16:04:24] **dorferiferon> what is Zabbix?
[10-Oct-2008 16:04:52] **dorferiferon> (obviously not)
[10-Oct-2008 16:04:54] **rhett> another monitoring solution
[10-Oct-2008 16:06:42] **dorferiferon> i use nagios as welll as zenoss... how do you like Zabbix>
[10-Oct-2008 16:06:43] **dorferiferon> ?
[10-Oct-2008 16:08:26] **raddy> dorferiferon : zabbix is like Zenoss, not like Nagios
[10-Oct-2008 16:08:56] **raddy> dorferiferon : are you pro in Nagios?
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:01] **dorferiferon> i am looking at it now.
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:06] **dorferiferon> ~
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:17] **dorferiferon> i get it to do what i want...
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:29] **dorferiferon> i would not call myself a pro though.
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:50] **raddy> dorferiferon : Ohhh
[10-Oct-2008 16:10:28] **dorferiferon> raddy: did you need some help/have a question i could help you with?
[10-Oct-2008 16:10:42] **raddy> dorferiferon : what i like about Zabbix is it's lesser memory usage
[10-Oct-2008 16:11:06] **dorferiferon> faster than zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 16:14:04] **raddy> dorferiferon : i dunno whether it is faster but occupies lesser amount of memory
[10-Oct-2008 16:14:51] **dorferiferon> ne sec
[10-Oct-2008 16:15:00] **dorferiferon> s/one/ne
[10-Oct-2008 16:15:59] **raddy> Is it possible to monitor application response times in Zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 16:25:29] **dorferiferon> raddy: you can set up actions to check almost anything. i currently monitor 30 hosts for much more than just resource utilization.
[10-Oct-2008 16:26:20] **raddy> dorferiferon : one more thing, i am currently monitoring Tomcat and Apache
[10-Oct-2008 16:26:36] **dorferiferon> i extended snmp for checking # of processes's running on web sservers (like httpd)
[10-Oct-2008 16:27:07] **raddy> dorferiferon : is ZenOSS capable of running a set of commands if some process stops
[10-Oct-2008 16:28:00] **raddy> dorferiferon : i also interested in having something like graphed top
[10-Oct-2008 16:28:23] **raddy> dorferiferon : no idea how to achieve it though
[10-Oct-2008 16:28:24] **dorferiferon> raddy: if tomcat will give you the output you can use a script called from snmp on the machine you are monitoring and run graphs. i have not delved into the management on that yet. i check for some processes remotely from my monitoring server and stop/start stuff that is running that way.
[10-Oct-2008 16:29:14] **dorferiferon> raddy: there is probably a script you could develop and call from snmp
[10-Oct-2008 16:29:22] **raddy> dorferiferon : i am currently detecting Tomcat's existence via monitoring it's port
[10-Oct-2008 16:29:37] **raddy> dorferiferon : ohhh okk
[10-Oct-2008 16:30:24] **raddy> dorferiferon : will Zenactions help me in restarting it if it is crashed?
[10-Oct-2008 16:31:08] **dorferiferon> raddy: i am not sure
[10-Oct-2008 16:31:22] **raddy> dorferiferon : ohhh okk
[10-Oct-2008 16:33:40] **dorferiferon> i have not delved into zenactions as much as some other people. i am using it for graphing more than anything else.
[10-Oct-2008 16:34:13] **dorferiferon> raddy: i should put some effort into that though.
[10-Oct-2008 16:34:43] **dorferiferon> raddy: and when all the fires die down to simply coals....
[10-Oct-2008 17:25:11] **therealnemo> http://h214010.upc-h.chello.nl/zenzebra.jpg
[10-Oct-2008 17:27:14] **rhett> its dead
[10-Oct-2008 17:27:30] **therealnemo> someone murdered it
[10-Oct-2008 19:30:17] **perr0> http://www.vimeo.com/1891426
[10-Oct-2008 19:30:27] **adytum-bot> Title: Obama '08 - Vote For Hope on Vimeo (at www.vimeo.com)
[10-Oct-2008 21:44:23] **jwagner__> hey guys
[10-Oct-2008 21:45:16] **rhett> ok
[10-Oct-2008 21:47:24] jwagner__ is now known as wag
[10-Oct-2008 21:47:33] **wag> bah.... I care not to come up with a nice nick
[10-Oct-2008 21:51:31] **rhett> they're irrelevant anyway
[10-Oct-2008 22:37:30] **rhett> how can i make the details of an snmp trap be sent in a message
[10-Oct-2008 22:38:12] **rhett> i can see how to add things on the fields page, but i am unsure how to for the details. would i add the oid to the message template?
[10-Oct-2008 22:57:33] **omar> are these my nerves or zenoss-2.2.4 have some problems when clicking the left top pad to add New Organizer....
[10-Oct-2008 22:58:36] **rhett> i havnt had an issue myself
[10-Oct-2008 22:59:00] **omar> using zenoss-2.2.4 ?
[10-Oct-2008 22:59:15] **rhett> correct
[10-Oct-2008 23:00:17] **omar> then I will re-install mine.... maybe I missed something....
[10-Oct-2008 23:00:23] **omar> let me try again.....
[10-Oct-2008 23:00:46] **rhett> i will double check right now though
[10-Oct-2008 23:01:12] **rhett> what is happenign for you?
[10-Oct-2008 23:01:32] **rhett> i just added /Devices/test w/ no problem
[10-Oct-2008 23:02:25] **omar> f.e. I want to add a new Group.. then click Group.... then click left pad at Sub-Groups
[10-Oct-2008 23:02:40] **omar> but it does not display any menu....
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:12] **omar> I have this problem in most options
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:19] **rhett> h
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:19] **rhett> m
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:31] **rhett> nope, i havnt seen that one on the two boxes i upgraded to 2.2.4
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:03] **omar> you upgraded from 2.1.3 ?
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:03] **rhett> http://cgi.4chan.org/s/src/1223656858240.png haha
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:08] **rhett> oh damnit
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:24] **rhett> this is not the right window to repost a link
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:30] **rhett> omar: yes
[10-Oct-2008 23:05:42] **omar> did you have any trouble migrating your data backup from zenoss 2.1.3 to 2.2.4 ?
[10-Oct-2008 23:06:20] **rhett> the one time i tried, no, but that was only a test
[10-Oct-2008 23:06:39] **rhett> wait sorry, mis read though you asked if migrating back to 2.1.3
[10-Oct-2008 23:07:00] **rhett> no i didnt have an issue going from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4 w/ the backup
[10-Oct-2008 23:07:33] **omar> so you just used zenbackup at 2.1.3 and zenrestore at 2.2.4 ?
[10-Oct-2008 23:08:00] **rhett> actually everything ijust said is moot. i went from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4
[10-Oct-2008 23:08:15] **omar> haha... ok.
[10-Oct-2008 23:10:20] **omar> 'cause I am about to jump off from this building going from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4...
[10-Oct-2008 23:11:19] **rhett> suckage
[10-Oct-2008 23:11:36] **rhett> i am sorry i couldnt be of any help
[10-Oct-2008 23:12:44] **omar> nevermind... I needed a second thought anyway
[10-Oct-2008 23:13:47] **omar> I will have my round 13 with this upgrade.... breathin' deep
[10-Oct-2008 23:13:55] **omar> see ya' aroun'
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[11-Oct-2008 05:20:17] **littlebayer> anyone in here?
[11-Oct-2008 17:48:36] **thrope> hi - im getting an event /Cmd/Fail - Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/ - Code: 126 - Msg: Command invoked cannot execute, permissions problem or command is not an
[11-Oct-2008 17:48:43] **thrope> but how can I tell where that is coming from
[11-Oct-2008 17:48:53] **thrope> ie i've no idea what monitoring is failing
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[12-Oct-2008 02:31:44] **perr> zenoss support sucks
[12-Oct-2008 02:31:51] **perr> straight up
[12-Oct-2008 12:02:01] **raddy> Anybody there???
[12-Oct-2008 12:06:11] **raddy> I added Process and File System Templates to my Linux based device
[12-Oct-2008 12:06:40] **raddy> But the graphs are not getting drawn
[12-Oct-2008 12:06:54] **raddy> nemo2 : can you help me?
[12-Oct-2008 13:33:25] **raddy> Anybody there
[12-Oct-2008 13:35:47] **raddy> I added Process and File System templates to my linux device
[12-Oct-2008 13:36:04] **raddy> But the graph is not getting drawn
[12-Oct-2008 13:36:16] **raddy> Can anybody help me/
[12-Oct-2008 13:41:12] **nemo2> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=14709#14709
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[12-Oct-2008 13:41:39] **nemo2> if you spent the same amount of time using google that you keep just asking here you can solve your own probs
[12-Oct-2008 13:41:54] **nemo2> i just got that from google so you might be quiet
[12-Oct-2008 13:43:13] **raddy> nemo2 : yeah
[12-Oct-2008 13:49:13] **thrope> i am running into a problem described here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6131&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
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[12-Oct-2008 13:49:28] **thrope> when I manually add an ip address - it ignores the cidr I set and defaults to /24
[12-Oct-2008 13:49:45] **thrope> just thought I'd check if anyone had any ideas
[12-Oct-2008 13:51:27] **nemo2> i suggest you give a patch if you can
[12-Oct-2008 13:52:08] **thrope> I've no idea where to start really
[12-Oct-2008 13:57:39] **nemo2> you mention roll out, if you are using ent version i am sure they would take care of that for you
[12-Oct-2008 13:57:47] **nemo2> just get in touch with your rep
[12-Oct-2008 13:58:56] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[12-Oct-2008 13:59:15] **thrope> nemo2: free version unfortunately
[12-Oct-2008 13:59:52] **thrope> nemo2: if I get something up and running I will try to persuade my boss to buy the extras for exchange and stuff... but I'm always suspicious when theres no prices on the web site
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:24] **thrope> its only a small business - but we do IT support so have alot of remote sites to monitor
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:25] **raddy> Why can't i change the flag to Monitor for a service?
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:44] **thrope> so if theres no price on website it pretty much means its too expensive for us
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:54] **raddy> I am in /os/ipservices/tcp_
[12-Oct-2008 14:02:51] **raddy> I am not able to enable a IP Service?
[12-Oct-2008 14:03:28] **raddy> I am in /devices/devicename/os/ipservices/tcp_port
[12-Oct-2008 14:04:27] **nemo2> thrope, in which case your org should get into python and make a patch
[12-Oct-2008 14:04:48] **raddy> nemo2 : can you help me?
[12-Oct-2008 14:04:53] **nemo2> raddy, no
[12-Oct-2008 14:05:15] **nemo2> because you will be back each second with a new problem for me
[12-Oct-2008 14:05:27] **nemo2> invest your time in learning raddy
[12-Oct-2008 14:08:48] **raddy> namo2 : I have invested much time in it, i had found a guide helping, but it has a changeable field, but in my end, there is no such a field
[12-Oct-2008 14:09:59] **raddy> nemo2 : Please see this image http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/resources/servicesummary.png
[12-Oct-2008 14:10:32] **raddy> nemo2 : i don't see a field True/False field
[12-Oct-2008 14:11:18] **nemo2> raddy, come on now , you jump on me when i enter chat, i dont know the answer to all your problems and the more you hassle me the less interested i get
[12-Oct-2008 14:11:40] **raddy> nemo2 : sorry
[12-Oct-2008 14:12:03] **raddy> thrope : are you there?
[12-Oct-2008 19:25:08] **snowgod> hey guys, I'm trying to install ZenOSS to perform basic service monitoring (IpService) against several devices that don't use snmp. I've tried modifying the collectors of the device, but is there any way to stop it from raising errors that the SNMP agent is unavailable?
[12-Oct-2008 19:26:26] **nemo2> zproperties->zsnmpignore or something like that ?
[12-Oct-2008 19:26:31] **nemo2> for the class of the device
[12-Oct-2008 19:26:53] **nemo2> and of course no snmp collectors on that class
[12-Oct-2008 19:27:02] **nemo2> just ip service collectors
[12-Oct-2008 19:27:44] **snowgod> ah, didn't see the zproperty for snmpignore
[12-Oct-2008 19:27:51] **snowgod> bet that will do the trick
[12-Oct-2008 19:36:24] **nemo2> should do
[12-Oct-2008 19:44:56] **snowgod> yep - that got it. Thanks for the pointer, that was a bit of a rookie oversight
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[13-Oct-2008 07:07:17] **raddy> Anybody there??
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:15] **thrope> hi - I'm trying to fix something in zenoss but I'm unfamiliar with the code base
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:26] **thrope> is there a way to put some debugging in while I poke around
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:31] **thrope> to get an idea how things work
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:39] **thrope> ie can I print stuff to a log somewhere
[13-Oct-2008 10:55:15] **thrope> is anyoen familiar with the ip parts of the zenmodel
[13-Oct-2008 10:55:20] **thrope> i am making some customisations
[13-Oct-2008 10:55:30] **thrope> and could do with some advice
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:35] **raddy> thrope : i think i can help you
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:45] **thrope> hi
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:55] **raddy> thrope : hi
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:59] **thrope> I have made some changes and have everything network wise working as I want
[13-Oct-2008 11:55:08] **thrope> but the google maps thing is broken - throughing a key error
[13-Oct-2008 11:55:22] **thrope> the changes I made are: allow duplicate ip's (don't check for duplicates if the netmask is /16)
[13-Oct-2008 11:55:49] **thrope> and in createNet I always start at netroot instead of netobj because I found it was nesting subnets inapprorpaitely
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:25] **thrope> but now as soon as a device is added to a location (even one without an address) I get a key error on a subnet
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:30] **raddy> thrope : You seems talking about stuff above my knowledge, sorry
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:33] **thrope> in the google maps dashboard display
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:41] **thrope> oh ok
[13-Oct-2008 11:57:51] **raddy> thrope : can you help me instead, a very little
[13-Oct-2008 11:58:06] **thrope> i can try
[13-Oct-2008 11:59:33] **raddy> I have added IP monitor to ping web site for response times via httpmonitor zen pack
[13-Oct-2008 12:00:51] **raddy> thrope : Graph is getting drawn well
[13-Oct-2008 12:01:09] **raddy> thrope : it shows M for time.
[13-Oct-2008 12:01:41] **thrope> ive never used httpmonitor
[13-Oct-2008 12:02:25] **raddy> thrope : leave httpmonitor
[13-Oct-2008 12:02:41] **thrope> what is the problem you are having?
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:06] **raddy> thrope : in all the graphs you see m for time, what it means, minutes ? microseconds ?
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:23] **thrope> no idea
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:27] **thrope> I would guess minutes
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:40] **thrope> microseconds is usually abbre with greek mu
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:42] **raddy> thrope : ohh
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:52] **thrope> but you should think which makes more sense
[13-Oct-2008 12:04:35] **thrope> what exactly do you mean?
[13-Oct-2008 12:04:46] **thrope> on the time axis the numbers are 1M 2M etc?
[13-Oct-2008 12:04:58] **thrope> i think that means milliseconds (which would be sensible for ping times0
[13-Oct-2008 12:05:15] **raddy> thrope : i can't imagine my websites are beaing loaded 27 minutes n'all
[13-Oct-2008 12:05:15] **thrope> just think about it... do the ping by hand and see the result - compare it to what is on the graph and you should get a good idea
[13-Oct-2008 12:05:50] **raddy> thrope : good idea
[13-Oct-2008 12:07:56] **raddy> thrope : i am getting cur: 9.23m avg: 27.74m etc for website loading
[13-Oct-2008 12:16:48] **thrope> does anyone know a way to run zendmd with ipython?
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:31] **raddy> thrope : do you know the abbrievation for MIB in ZenOSS?
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:43] **raddy> thrope : what is it?
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:49] **thrope> no
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:53] **thrope> MIB is an abbreviation
[13-Oct-2008 12:30:01] **thrope> so I odnt know what you mean
[13-Oct-2008 12:31:27] **raddy> thrope : wikipedia is really great, MIB is Management Information Base, used by SNMP
[13-Oct-2008 12:31:47] **raddy> thrope : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_Information_Base
[13-Oct-2008 13:39:11] **thrope> can anyone tell me how to access the zope interface in a zenoss install?
[13-Oct-2008 15:22:47] **raddy> Anybody there?
[13-Oct-2008 15:24:34] **raddy> Hi sn1ffer72
[13-Oct-2008 15:24:58] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : are you using ZenOSS to monitor performance?
[13-Oct-2008 15:26:56] **sn1ffer72> performance such as what?
[13-Oct-2008 15:27:03] **sn1ffer72> network usage?
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:12] **sn1ffer72> I logged on today hoping someone can answer why when discoverying windows boxes it cannot properly find these values
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:13] **sn1ffer72> ssportaladmin.onecommunications.com
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:16] **sn1ffer72> oops
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:17] **sn1ffer72>
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:22] **sn1ffer72> memoryPagesPerSec .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:27] **sn1ffer72> memoryAvailableBytes .1.3.6.1.3.1.9600.1.1.2.2.0
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:33] **sn1ffer72> cpuPercentProcessorTime .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.8
[13-Oct-2008 15:29:26] **sn1ffer72> snmp is turned on
[13-Oct-2008 15:32:29] **sn1ffer72> Ah.. I see the windows box does not respond to that OID..
[13-Oct-2008 15:32:40] **sn1ffer72> does anyone know the equiv OIDs in windows world?
[13-Oct-2008 15:36:35] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : What that m that is displayed in graphs? Minutes, Milliseconds?
[13-Oct-2008 15:38:40] **sn1ffer72> which graph?
[13-Oct-2008 15:39:58] **sn1ffer72> if it is referring to free resources it most likely is M = MB
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:02] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : HttpMonitor graph, CPU Utilization graph
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:27] **sn1ffer72> httpmonitor most likely is referring to ms
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:33] **sn1ffer72> milliseconds
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:48] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : ohhh, thank you
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:52] **sn1ffer72> cuz it would be useless to graph http response that last more than 1 min
[13-Oct-2008 15:41:26] **raddy> okk cool
[13-Oct-2008 15:41:44] **raddy> what is m in process cpu utilization?
[13-Oct-2008 15:42:23] **sn1ffer72> not sure.. I have having issues obtaining that value
[13-Oct-2008 15:42:43] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : from Windows Boxes?
[13-Oct-2008 15:43:34] **sn1ffer72> yeah
[13-Oct-2008 15:43:46] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : Is it possible dismiss Status Notification for certain processes?
[13-Oct-2008 15:44:29] **sn1ffer72> you mean as in.. not show those silly WMI error messages?
[13-Oct-2008 15:44:41] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : did you try disabling Firewall in Windows box?
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:07] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : not exactly, i am talking about processes
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:48] **sn1ffer72> you should be able to go into
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:50] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : i have created some of the processes just to monitor it's performance, not for monitoring it's status
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:58] **sn1ffer72> /Classes/Processes/zProperties
[13-Oct-2008 15:46:15] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : yeahhh
[13-Oct-2008 15:46:42] **sn1ffer72> then just toggle one of those to False
[13-Oct-2008 15:47:19] **sn1ffer72> I am spending my day today trying to figure out
[13-Oct-2008 15:47:25] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : BUT graph would be still drawn right?
[13-Oct-2008 15:47:29] **sn1ffer72> how to collect on 1 oid an graph it
[13-Oct-2008 16:10:43] **sn1ffer72> I see the hostmib has a lot to offer
[13-Oct-2008 16:10:45] **sn1ffer72> http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs_byoidtree.aspx?oid=1.3.6.1.2.1.25
[13-Oct-2008 16:10:58] **adytum-bot> Title: ipMonitor Support Portal :: Mibs (at support.ipmonitor.com)
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[14-Oct-2008 04:20:07] **Pikoro> can someone point me to a doc that explains how to map a MIB to a certain group or class of device?
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[14-Oct-2008 14:41:28] **daMaestro> anyone have issues with pings not completing in time?
[14-Oct-2008 14:43:39] **daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/7559 is what we currently have set for 238 (and adding more constantly) devices
[14-Oct-2008 14:43:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #7559 (at fpaste.org)
[14-Oct-2008 14:44:10] **daMaestro> we get occasional IP (ping) timeouts for random devices, and occasional snmp timeouts for random devices
[14-Oct-2008 14:45:25] **daMaestro> most of the time the snmp timeouts are on db servers, where there are custom OIDs that query 'SHOW STATUS'
[14-Oct-2008 15:46:49] **xtea> Is there any way to turn on SNMP bulkget in Zenoss, I have machines on the other side of high latency satellite connection and an snmpwalk takes about 27 minutes - modeling is failing as a result ?
[14-Oct-2008 15:54:19] **nemo_> nothing completes in enough time for me
[14-Oct-2008 15:54:27] **nemo_> i guess i am just inpatient daMaestro
[14-Oct-2008 15:54:51] **nemo_> i suspect your not restarting your stuff daily
[14-Oct-2008 15:55:15] **nemo_> i run a script before and after out production day to clean up processes, restart things etc
[14-Oct-2008 15:55:46] **nemo_> xtea, zenmodeller should do that for you.
[14-Oct-2008 15:56:58] **xtea> nemo_: zenmodeller timeouts at 180 seconds, however if i do snmpbulkget from the commandline i can get all the results inside 180 seconds
[14-Oct-2008 15:57:23] **xtea> nemo_: this leads me to believe that it is not happening
[14-Oct-2008 15:57:52] **nemo_> hmmmz
[14-Oct-2008 15:57:55] **nemo_> not sure then
[14-Oct-2008 15:58:22] **nemo_> i was aiming my reply to daMaestro
[14-Oct-2008 15:58:26] **nemo_> but thats kool
[14-Oct-2008 15:59:09] **daMaestro> nemo_, blah.. if the solution is to really restart zenoss.. that is poor
[14-Oct-2008 15:59:38] **nemo_> daMaestro, well what to do ..
[14-Oct-2008 15:59:47] **nemo_> you can bury you head in the sand if you want
[14-Oct-2008 16:01:03] **nemo_> but my point is that sometimes the daemons are reliable for month after month
[14-Oct-2008 16:01:11] **nemo_> not *
[14-Oct-2008 17:18:22] **daMaestro> nemo_, i understand
[14-Oct-2008 17:19:26] **texasthunder> hey guys
[14-Oct-2008 17:19:44] **daMaestro> nemo_, however, our monitoring box is a dell 2950 with 8 cores, 12GB of ram, SSD for the RRD data and 7.2k sata raid5 for the os (and zenoss). it's a dedicated box with a bonded gbit link to our network core... and it still likes to choke every once in a while with ~250 devices
[14-Oct-2008 17:20:50] **daMaestro> nemo_, it actually holds it's own pretty well. we adjusted everything to poll every minute and the rrds are very aggressive
[14-Oct-2008 17:21:05] **daMaestro> nemo_, still need to do a little tuning though
[14-Oct-2008 17:22:03] **daMaestro> hmm only 4 cores @ 2.33GHz
[14-Oct-2008 17:22:15] **daMaestro> still, should be able to power through most anything we throw at it
[14-Oct-2008 17:40:06] **texasthunder> where do i change the amount of days the event console hows?
[14-Oct-2008 17:40:14] **texasthunder> right now it goes back about a month
[14-Oct-2008 17:40:18] **texasthunder> i just need 7 days
[14-Oct-2008 17:44:52] **rhett> texasthunder: click on event manager under managment
[14-Oct-2008 17:45:18] **rhett> i think thats where you need to be
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:27] **texasthunder> ok i see at the bottom agiing threshold
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:39] **texasthunder> and default availbility report
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:46] **texasthunder> thresholdi s 4 hours
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:56] **texasthunder> availability report is 7 days
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[14-Oct-2008 18:21:19] **jcastro> hi guys, I'm looking for the zenoss people who manned the booth at ohio linuxfest?
[14-Oct-2008 18:27:46] **cgibbons> lemme ping them for you, jcastro
[14-Oct-2008 18:28:23] **jcastro> cgibbons: thank you!
[14-Oct-2008 18:42:37] **texasthunder> does anybody know when is the next time the devs will show up here?
[14-Oct-2008 18:43:58] **cgibbons> every thursday at 11am central is the normal schedule
[14-Oct-2008 18:44:15] **cgibbons> but at least one of us is here now, for better or worse
[14-Oct-2008 18:44:23] **texasthunder> great
[14-Oct-2008 18:44:41] **texasthunder> how do i limit the number of days in the event console to show ?
[14-Oct-2008 18:47:39] **npmccallum> jcastro: yo
[14-Oct-2008 18:50:39] **jcastro> npmccallum: howdy, I left your business cards in my hotel room, can you pm me your email addresses? I've got someone interested in getting the ball rolling on packaging zenoss.
[14-Oct-2008 18:51:27] **npmccallum> jcastro: you were THAT hammered? ;0
[14-Oct-2008 18:52:00] **jcastro> heh, no. I think everyone else was though
[14-Oct-2008 18:54:16] **cgibbons> texasthunder: what's your 'delete history events older than (days)' setting on the Event Manager / Edit page?
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:13] **texasthunder> 0
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:20] **texasthunder> i guess thats bad duh
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:37] **cgibbons> looks like my default here is 7
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:45] **texasthunder> ok 7 it is
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:46] **texasthunder> thanks
[14-Oct-2008 18:56:13] **cgibbons> ack it's matt!
[14-Oct-2008 18:56:45] **mrayzenoss> I heard my name
[14-Oct-2008 19:05:36] **muppethouse> I've got a quick question if there is somebody out there with experience creating custom Device Templates
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:07] **texasthunder> depends if you're using SNMP or Commands as a data source
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:14] **muppethouse> snmp
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:21] **texasthunder> i just used it today to create my first oracle checks
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:21] **muppethouse> everything is working... kinda
[14-Oct-2008 19:07:25] **muppethouse> cool. I created a template that grabs a handful of data sources from the private Riverhead MIB, all counter64, and tries to draw a nice pretty picture
[14-Oct-2008 19:08:20] **muppethouse> when I snmpget, or do the little test thing from the template section of the web interface all works just fine, I receive in a nice big integer
[14-Oct-2008 19:09:07] **muppethouse> but for some of the variables instead of taking the delta between the two samples to get a rate it looks like it is treating it as a guage rather than counter
[14-Oct-2008 19:09:19] **muppethouse> ... but they are a counter.
[14-Oct-2008 19:17:08] **boingolov> is there anywhere that the severities recognized by zensyslog are enumerated?
[14-Oct-2008 19:17:21] **boingolov> they don't seem to follow the definitions from sys/syslog.h
[14-Oct-2008 19:18:08] **boingolov> moreover, they don't seem to follow the same order. for instance, sys/syslog.h gives the most severe errors as 0, then go up in decreasing severity up until 7
[14-Oct-2008 19:18:38] **boingolov> with zenoss, I'm getting info severity stuff as severity 1
[14-Oct-2008 19:18:47] **boingolov> and more critical stuff as 4
[14-Oct-2008 19:22:20] **justizin> is it not possible to have more than one tcp monitor for a given host, for the same protocol, e.g. http, on multiple ports?
[14-Oct-2008 19:22:55] **muppethouse> justizin: yes, you can nave more than one ip service monitor
[14-Oct-2008 19:23:50] **therealnemo> boingolov, yes its an odity, why it didnt mirror unix severities is a mystery
[14-Oct-2008 19:23:56] **therealnemo> perhaps mrayzenoss
[14-Oct-2008 19:23:58] **therealnemo>
[14-Oct-2008 19:24:04] **therealnemo> knows ..
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[14-Oct-2008 19:24:19] **muppethouse> the severities are more similar to Netcool right?
[14-Oct-2008 19:24:40] **`m3> hmm i think they are just not the same as unix
[14-Oct-2008 19:24:45] **texasthunder> i've come to the conclusion zenoss is learned through time and trial/error and not documentation
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:12] **`m3> reading the code is the only true method
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:24] **justizin> muppethouse: when i add a new ipservice of type http, for another port, it removes a previously configured one
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:30] **justizin> can't even have http-alt and http
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:33] **texasthunder> for the truly gifted python master yes
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:43] **`m3> texasthunder, which isnt me :/
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:55] **texasthunder> hear hear
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:15] **`m3> why dont we have a severities at least in the right colours in the list
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:18] **muppethouse> justizin: I would go into the classes > services > IpService and make sure that there is a service defined for the ports you would like to monitor
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:27] **`m3> that way we dont have to work it out ourselves
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:40] **`m3> i asked zenoss for that directly 6 months ago
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:54] **justizin> muppethouse: well, there is already http-alt, but i know what you're talking about, i created some process classes for zeo and debian's 'apache2' process
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:59] * justizin gives it a shot
[14-Oct-2008 19:27:42] **texasthunder> does edahl ever come on here?
[14-Oct-2008 19:28:40] **muppethouse> so if you wanted to monitor a zenoss box, you may typically be running a service on 80 and 8080, so you should be able to create a new service under IpService for port 8080 and then just add it to the device.
[14-Oct-2008 19:29:36] **cgibbons> not much anymore, texasthunder
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:00] **texasthunder> I sent him an email about a certain ticket regarding email alert aggregation
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:14] **texasthunder> any chance that will happen in the next release?
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:14] **`m3> muppethouse, zenoss boxes in a cluster all connect to a hubhost
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:15] **justizin> wierd, yah, when i typed 8080 as the port into an http service i created, it changed itself to http-alt, and pointed at a location in /Services/IpService in the UI, but doesn't seem to be there..
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:27] **`m3> that includes monitoring of each node
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:39] **justizin> i see what you're saying, no big.. yah i'm monitoring zenoss and another zope on the same box, actually, at least until zenoss runs in a newer zope.
[14-Oct-2008 19:33:06] **muppethouse> I don't see http-alt defined on my install - looked under the registered subclass of ipservice.
[14-Oct-2008 19:33:07] **cgibbons> which ticket # was it, texasthunder?
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:03] **justizin> yah it came up in auto-complete.. wierd..
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:43] **justizin> should i be creating new service classes at IpService level, or under Registered?
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:54] **justizin> does it matter? I assume it's acquisition based..
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:56] **texasthunder> cgibbons i'll look it up
[14-Oct-2008 19:36:22] **justizin> i tried to add a new service into the Registered container, and it doesn't have an option to input the port.. do i need to follow some convention? i see the edit form is different for existing items.
[14-Oct-2008 19:36:37] **muppethouse> justizin: I don't know, but I suspect it just has to do with your own organizational choices. I suspect since it is auto completing there is already a port 8080 defined in Registered. Maybe it builds these lists from /etc/services at install - I'm not sure.
[14-Oct-2008 19:36:54] **justizin> right on, i'll continue exploring. thanks
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:36] **justizin> yah tried to call my 8080 "FileMaker, inc HTTP Alt", must be from debuntu /etc/services or something
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:38] **muppethouse> it always does that - you just give the service a name first, then go in and edit it for the port you want - kinda obtuse, but there is a lot of that in Zenoss
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:55] **justizin> editing, i still don't see a port..
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:58] **muppethouse> oh, you're right
[14-Oct-2008 19:38:15] **justizin> can i add a zProperty or something?
[14-Oct-2008 19:38:44] **muppethouse> I don't see it in the zProperties. In any case you can add it at the top IpServices level
[14-Oct-2008 19:39:02] **justizin> hm ok Registered must be like "Zenoss Registered" or something.
[14-Oct-2008 19:39:38] **texasthunder> cgibbons: 1224
[14-Oct-2008 19:39:47] **cgibbons> okay let me take a look
[14-Oct-2008 19:40:09] **texasthunder> thanks, i submitted the question through the web system for edahl
[14-Oct-2008 19:41:46] **cgibbons> to give you an idea the company is big enough now there is a group that does defect reviews weekly and goes through things, so it won't always be edahl looking
[14-Oct-2008 19:41:53] **justizin> oh, i'm an idiot, i was adding ' service ' not ' ip service ' ;d
[14-Oct-2008 19:42:41] **jmp242> hey, anyone have any more info on 2.2.4 with DeviceProxy errors?
[14-Oct-2008 19:43:03] **jmp242> Such as: DeviceProxy instance has no attribute 'zWinUser'
[14-Oct-2008 19:44:24] **texasthunder> cgibbons: good, but is this a defect or an enhancement, and will it be in 2.3?
[14-Oct-2008 19:44:55] **cgibbons> it won't be in 2.3, no work has been done on it yet
[14-Oct-2008 19:45:22] **cgibbons> we're feature complete on 2.3 and doing hardening now so just bugs and the like
[14-Oct-2008 19:46:41] **texasthunder> so where or what is the status of single email alert?
[14-Oct-2008 19:46:57] **texasthunder> Cause the larger the site, the bigger the flood
[14-Oct-2008 19:48:29] **texasthunder> oh yeah how do we submit request or fixes through dev.zenoss.com?
[14-Oct-2008 19:48:33] **texasthunder> how do i get a login?
[14-Oct-2008 19:49:13] **cgibbons> that is a good question, let me ask
[14-Oct-2008 19:49:21] **cgibbons> you mean actually code patches?
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:18] **texasthunder> code patches? no i'm not close to being a coder
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:26] **texasthunder> but requesting fixes
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:29] **cgibbons> ahh!
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:37] **cgibbons> see: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:43] **texasthunder> cool
[14-Oct-2008 19:51:11] **jmp242> Don't you still have to sign a form to submit code patches?
[14-Oct-2008 19:52:27] **cgibbons> not sure about that
[14-Oct-2008 19:53:01] **texasthunder> cgibbons: any word on the single email?
[14-Oct-2008 19:53:32] **cgibbons> no idea, texasthunder.
[14-Oct-2008 19:54:22] **jmp242> texasthunder: single email?
[14-Oct-2008 19:54:32] **texasthunder> oh, cause I figured I could go through transforms, but I'd rather go untangle miles of christmas lights :-$
[14-Oct-2008 19:54:45] **texasthunder> yeah 1 email instead of flood
[14-Oct-2008 19:55:59] **`m3> texasthunder, you dont have any probably where zenoss doesnt know topology
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:07] **jmp242> Had you looked at some of the mitagation strategies from the forums? I remember that if Layer 3 mapping is working
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:26] **jmp242> things behind the router etc won't alert also
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:27] **`m3> i was assured by zenoss that zenoss is smart enough to know wether a router is down or ALL of the hosts under it is down
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:46] **`m3> lol you must be my twin jmp242
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:47] **`m3>
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:02] **jmp242> I'm guessing you want layer 2 mapping though, and we're a little sol there right now
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:28] **texasthunder> well that is all nice, but i'll need to know when a db is down 400 webservers don't need to remind me that 1 db is down !
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:28] **jmp242> I do recall some posts by coders (cluther?) on manually setting up some dependancies like that
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:41] **`m3> yup i think , or i imagined the same
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:02] **`m3> i am still trying to get people to put it into the cisco templates
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:02] **texasthunder> 1 db on a multi db machine
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:24] **jmp242> I would expect you can do something with your alerting rules perhaps, I recall there was an ability to use two events to fire an alert
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:25] **`m3> texasthunder, just include it in the message ?
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:45] **jmp242> perhaps you could work it to need to not have another event to fire the alert?
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:45] **`m3> i make a transform to include the partition name in the disk usage warnings for example
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:51] **muppethouse> there is a more simple way to add dependencies (that I have not tried yet) outside of manually adding the networks and locking them
[14-Oct-2008 19:59:06] **muppethouse> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-a-device-dependency/
[14-Oct-2008 19:59:20] **adytum-bot> Title: Create a device dependency - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Oct-2008 19:59:45] **jmp242> yes, that's a good example muppethouse
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:03] **texasthunder> i looked at that, but instead of ping, can i use something else?
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:21] **jmp242> yes texasthunder
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:25] **texasthunder> a db going down doens't mean the machine is down
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:35] **jmp242> it's a python expression can do whatever I expect
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:37] **texasthunder> i'm dying to know here
[14-Oct-2008 20:01:07] **`m3> its probably in the component
[14-Oct-2008 20:01:30] **justizin> texasthunder: sounds like a complex issue that would be easier to discuss in context of a detailed issue with repro instructions.
[14-Oct-2008 20:01:30] **`m3> thats where my colleague found the disk partition name, handy
[14-Oct-2008 20:02:09] **texasthunder> justizin: good point
[14-Oct-2008 20:02:33] **jmp242> I'm waiting for my Python book lol... but I think you just need to figure out the db event . . .
[14-Oct-2008 20:02:51] **texasthunder> db_server.pingStatus is good, but I'm guessing, after the period what other options are there?
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:01] **texasthunder> how can i find those?
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:14] **texasthunder> that is the real question i guess.
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:17] **`m3> there is a list in the appendix, end of the admin guide pdf
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:23] **texasthunder> seriously?
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:27] **`m3> seriously ...
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:41] **`m3> also reading zenoss code helps
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:49] **justizin> if you can get at it in a pdb you can dir() it
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:09] **`m3> not sure i understand
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:11] **justizin> reading zope code to understand an app is like reading dna to understand anatomy ;d
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:24] **texasthunder> rofl
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:26] **`m3> justizin, true, but were in open source here
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:40] **justizin> yah i just mean the source is only half the app, a lot of it generates at runtime in memory.
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:48] **`m3> grep
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:51] **`m3> you dont read it all
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:00] **`m3> anyway, just ideas you dont have to use them
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:01] **cgibbons> zope *puke*
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:11] **`m3> but the list of methods was real ( admin guide )
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:15] **justizin> well, you guys are using like 2003 zope
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:21] **cgibbons> yeah
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:29] **justizin> it's ok, i am *so* ready to help.
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:35] **muppethouse> yeah, 2008 zope is called Django isn't it?
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:38] **texasthunder> i just looked in the admin guide
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:46] **texasthunder> no appendices
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:47] **justizin> it's called repoze
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:09] **`m3> texasthunder, its there, search for findDevice in there
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:11] **cgibbons> mmm django is tasty
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:13] **`m3> or similar
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:17] **texasthunder> ok
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:37] **justizin> the zenoss code is actually pretty decent for porting to modern z3. setuptools can do what zenpacks do now, i think..
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:44] **justizin> anyway, i'll shut up until i have something to show.
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:36] **texasthunder> justizin: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:39] **texasthunder> doesn't have it
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:50] **texasthunder> i've looked for finddevice
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:54] **justizin> doesn't have what now?
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:54] **`m3> why would you use such an old one ?
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:05] **`m3> 2.2.x now
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:10] **texasthunder> search for findDevice in there
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:24] **justizin> it's just contents, though
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:34] **`m3> i am gonna send you the direct link
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:40] **`m3> and keep quiet in future
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:41] **texasthunder> thanks
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:52] **justizin> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=findDevice+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.zenoss.com%2Fcommunity%2Fdocs%2F&btnG=Search
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:52] **`m3> you will make a great manager oneday texasthunder
[14-Oct-2008 20:10:33] * justizin bet `m3 link better
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:25] **`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/apcs02.html
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:30] **`m3> findDevice isnt there
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:48] **`m3> this was the page i was thinking of
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:18] **`m3> but thats why i said look in the code
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:27] **`m3> there are obviously more
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:47] **texasthunder> ok let me put on my very small programming cap
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:59] **texasthunder> =-O
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:14] **`m3> i understand totally i wrote this script, all works in zendmd
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:33] **`m3> but it doesnt stick when i run it in a python script
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:39] **`m3> no errors, just doesnt commit
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:52] **`m3> other script work the same and do similar things fine.
[14-Oct-2008 20:14:02] **`m3> must be something really silly.
[14-Oct-2008 21:16:13] telexicon_ is now known as telexicon
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:00] **justizin> `m3: did you consider trying to force a commit yourself?
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:07] **justizin> import transaction; transaction.commit()
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:17] **justizin> not always the best practice, but can be useful
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:32] **justizin> or you can throw a pdb.set_trace() in there and you'll get interactive prompt in context
[14-Oct-2008 21:45:10] **justizin> i'm curious, when i set the regex for an OSProcess to something like ".*runzeo.*", why doesn't a long command containing 'runzeo' seem to match?
[14-Oct-2008 21:51:48] **`m3> justizin, i tried a regular commit()
[14-Oct-2008 21:52:05] **`m3> but my script didnt like it and its never been neccesary before
[14-Oct-2008 21:52:18] **`m3> i will post it on the forum or something
[14-Oct-2008 21:53:02] **`m3> justizin, because its running from py
[14-Oct-2008 21:53:05] **`m3> i think
[14-Oct-2008 21:59:09] **rhett> Test failed: socket.gaierror - (-2, \'Name or service not known\') 2008/10/14 14:21:26 any one know what causes this error?
[14-Oct-2008 21:59:43] **rhett> i just started receiving it when i try to send a test message
[14-Oct-2008 22:01:05] **justizin> hm..
[14-Oct-2008 22:01:33] **rhett> i've seen it in the past but i am not sure what the cause is
[14-Oct-2008 22:03:08] **boingolov> by the way,I had to leave shortly after asking my question earlier wrt severities
[14-Oct-2008 22:03:28] **boingolov> thanks for the responses. but short of going through the code, are the numeric values of the severities specified in documentation anywhere?
[14-Oct-2008 22:03:59] **boingolov> also, say I wanted to do zensyslog.conf to ignore events that are less than warning in severity, how would I do that?
[14-Oct-2008 22:04:52] **`m3> transform
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:03] **`m3> or set it on the class ( zproperties of the class )
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:29] **`m3> so if your error comes in as /hw/power ( class ) , set the severity there as a zcommand
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:43] **boingolov> the thing is, the device itsself isn't modeled exactly
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:55] **boingolov> but it is sending syslog messages to zensyslog
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:00] **`m3> your thinking about device class
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:07] **`m3> i am talking about classes of events
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:09] **boingolov> oh, you mean event class?
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:10] **boingolov> gotcha
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:32] **boingolov> the problem is, the event class is /Unknown
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:35] **boingolov> which is a catchall
[14-Oct-2008 22:07:21] **boingolov> if it were anything besides ESXi, I could tell what level of severity / facility etc to forward and leave the rest to log locally . But I can't seem to figure out a way to get at all specific about what gets sent to syslog from ESXi
[14-Oct-2008 22:08:15] **justizin> `m3: i understand it's running from py, but i'm not ignoring arguments. i need to distinguish between different apps running as python, are there any urls / docs you can rec for that?
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:38] **`m3> justizin, i kinda have the same problem / or lack of knowledge
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:45] **`m3> its just not so high in priorities
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:45] **justizin> hm.
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:46] **`m3> atm
[14-Oct-2008 22:11:00] **`m3> same issue on my mind tho
[14-Oct-2008 22:14:31] **boingolov> ahh, okay, wow
[14-Oct-2008 22:14:38] **boingolov> it goes 10 20 30 40 50
[14-Oct-2008 22:14:57] **boingolov> so setting it to "3" was making it probably even more chatty than the default
[14-Oct-2008 22:15:51] **`m3> haha , i put syslogs on there own server there were so many events
[14-Oct-2008 22:19:14] **boingolov> I just set mine to only worry with the errors on up
[14-Oct-2008 22:19:25] **boingolov> but yeah, a seperate syslog server might not be a bad idea
[14-Oct-2008 22:22:34] **`m3> boingolov, nothing should really be in unknown
[14-Oct-2008 22:22:46] **`m3> you need to edit the regexs (add a new line )
[14-Oct-2008 22:23:16] **`m3> to fit whatever it misses, and generate a valid event with all data
[14-Oct-2008 22:23:39] **`m3> i forgot what file ,.. my zenoss is @ work
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:20] **`m3> ahh
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:21] **`m3> /usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/SyslogProcessing.py
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:26] **boingolov> okay
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:28] **boingolov> thank you
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:31] **boingolov> I will look into that
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:36] **`m3> its a python specific regex
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:41] **boingolov> fun
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:47] **boingolov> so is it basically perl compatible?
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:52] **`m3> that alone should save you the days it took me to find out
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:57] **boingolov> I'm python illiterate
[14-Oct-2008 22:31:04] **boingolov> thank you
[14-Oct-2008 22:31:57] **`m3> lol yw
[14-Oct-2008 22:32:16] **boingolov> crap, this still looks like it's picking up really insignificant stuff from syslog, seems to be ignoring zensyslog.conf
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:01] **`m3> http://www.regular-expressions.info/named.html
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:07] **adytum-bot> Title: Regex Tutorial - Named Capturing Groups - Backreference Names (at www.regular-expressions.info)
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:54] **boingolov> okay, so basically perlish with the named backreferences?
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:58] **`m3> are you forwarding *.* tho ?
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:06] **`m3> yes thats it
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:09] **boingolov> ^m3 , on that esxi box, yes
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:17] **boingolov> and I can't seem to find a way to only send a subset
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:19] **`m3> so dont forward *.*
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:25] **boingolov> with normal syslog daemons, you have that option
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:26] **`m3> leave out the trivial stuff
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:39] **boingolov> with esxi , you just point it at a remote syslog machine
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:41] **`m3> i forget the exact syntax
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:48] **`m3> but warn.* @ host
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:53] **`m3> or whatever
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:02] **boingolov> yeah, within a typical syslog.conf file on a typical *nix machine
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:10] **boingolov> but ESXi is not using a typical syslog from what I can tell
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:11] **`m3> ouch, nasty
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:32] **boingolov> I think that's why it's the free version, heh
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:37] **boingolov> it's crap in parts
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:49] **boingolov> we need to upgrade it to the full ESX
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:50] **`m3> still you could probably fix that easier than filter the millions of different ones on zenoss
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:16] **boingolov> all I'm trying to do is tell zensyslog that I want it to ignore anything with a severity below error
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:25] **`m3> *.* includes debug and stuff
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:43] **`m3> so tranform it then
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:46] **boingolov> ^m3, exactly
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:47] **`m3> transform
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:59] **boingolov> my log messages look something like "10:43 - was thirsty, drank some water"
[14-Oct-2008 22:37:36] **boingolov> I'm tempted to turn it off for now until we get a license for the full blown ESX
[14-Oct-2008 22:37:56] **`m3> if event.severity < 3: event._action=history|drop|whatever
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:01] **`m3> or something there abouts
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:04] **boingolov> I'm just saying, there is an advertised option to zensyslog to set a threshold
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:37] **`m3> and you did restart zensyslog ( dummy q i know )
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:40] **boingolov> yes
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:46] **`m3> stop && kill && start
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:49] **boingolov> and I've restarted the entire stack a few times as well
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:55] **`m3> ? or at least check its not lieing
[14-Oct-2008 22:39:54] **boingolov> I just stopped the stack, ps'ed and checked for any python processes running, nada (except for some red hat stuff)
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:05] **`m3> kool
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:15] **boingolov> starting it up again now, but this is nothing I haven't done in the past
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:30] **`m3> gotcha, well i am about out of suggestions
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:48] **boingolov> well, you've given some good ones, and I'll definitely look into that regex stuff
[14-Oct-2008 22:41:03] **boingolov> that will be useful regardless of whether or not I get the threshold stuff working
[14-Oct-2008 22:41:29] **`m3> kool
[14-Oct-2008 22:42:37] **boingolov> and I guess once I get the eventClass stuff behaving properly, the transform would then be something I'd apply to the class?
[14-Oct-2008 22:42:42] **boingolov> assuming threshold is a no go?
[14-Oct-2008 22:43:17] **`m3> yup that would be the correct order
[14-Oct-2008 22:43:29] **boingolov> coolio
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:16] **`m3> i just didnt understand why i couldnt get it working in grep
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:18] **boingolov> oh, wait, whenever you modify a py file, and there is a pyc file, do I need to delete the pyc in order to force it to recompile?
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:39] **`m3> i dont think so, i think it happens automatically
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:51] **boingolov> okay
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:00] **justizin> may need to restart the python process..
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:03] **`m3> i am not definitive on that
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:19] **`m3> yeh he restarted the zensyslog dameon
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:23] **boingolov> I remember going through some weirdness trying to get trac working
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:28] * boingolov grumbles about python
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:48] **justizin> you can always try removing pycs, there are certainly issues they can cause, but it should recompile based on modification date.
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:59] **`m3> so many python cherries busted for zenoss
[14-Oct-2008 22:46:08] **justizin>
[14-Oct-2008 22:46:43] **`m3> sounds like you got a handle on python and zope justizin
[14-Oct-2008 22:46:50] **`m3> just newish to zenoss ?
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:14] **justizin> yeap
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:28] **`m3> thats a good position to start from
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:31] **justizin> being based on python and zope is a big attractor to zenoss for me.
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:39] **justizin> yah seriously, the zenoss code itself is not very big.
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:49] **`m3> its a PITA for the rest of the world, but yeh
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:51] **justizin> likin' the yui..
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:10] **boingolov> actually it was almost a deal breaker for me, but I like the UI really well, and so do my coworkers
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:22] **`m3> so many people assume machine details are in mysql
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:24] **justizin> well if i can help come up with ways to be more z3-ish in zenoss instead of z2-ish, rest of the world might have less headaches.
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:42] **justizin> yah it was clear to me in like 5min ok the structure of stuff is in zodb, the events are in mysql. got it.
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:46] **boingolov> anyway, thanks for the suggestions m3
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:50] **boingolov> I'm out of here
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:03] **justizin> i was really surprised to see zenoss still using zope 2.6
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:10] **`m3> kool, later boingolov
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:16] **`m3> ?
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:22] **`m3> it was 2.4 last time i looked
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:26] **justizin> 2.11 is out now.
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:28] **justizin> yeesh even worse
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:32] **justizin> i saw 2.6 somewhere
[14-Oct-2008 22:50:13] **justizin> impressed to see PAS in use..
[14-Oct-2008 22:50:40] **`m3> yeh very enterprise
[14-Oct-2008 22:55:40] **justizin> hm, odd, i have errors for threshold of utilization 75% on my he.net ipv6 tunnel interface
[14-Oct-2008 23:44:03] **Pikoro> can someone point me to a doc that explains how to map a MIB to a certain group or class of device?
[14-Oct-2008 23:44:48] **`m3> best way i can explain, is to say you dont, google on zenmib
[14-Oct-2008 23:45:37] **Pikoro> well i got the mib imported with dependencies and all that, but it seems i'll have to make all kinds of stuff manually.. spent all day googling it yesterday.. heheh
[14-Oct-2008 23:46:29] **Pikoro> i just want to make it so when i add a certain class of device it's automatically polled for certain things..
[14-Oct-2008 23:46:47] **`m3> but that has little to do with mibs
[14-Oct-2008 23:46:51] **Pikoro> without having to spend 4 or 5 days making all the probes manually
[14-Oct-2008 23:47:49] **`m3> you must be looking for something else
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:00] **`m3> it doesnt sound like a mib to me
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:12] **`m3> sounds more like collector plugins
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:34] **Pikoro> yah, that might be more appropriate
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:37] **`m3> and modelling devices
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:50] **Pikoro> i have 417 items i need to probe for these devices
[14-Oct-2008 23:49:02] **Pikoro> so i'm trying not to have to create all the collectors manually i guess
[14-Oct-2008 23:49:48] **`m3> as long as they are ipservices, or pretty normal you should be ok
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:00] **`m3> or at least most of em
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:26] **`m3> you can always use ssh comands / shell script
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:26] **Pikoro> they're not standard services or items to probe..
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:47] **Pikoro> cpu temp, # of hotspot users, things like that
[14-Oct-2008 23:51:28] **`m3> i think there might be a zenoss agent you can install on a machine
[14-Oct-2008 23:51:53] **Pikoro> nah, they're a custom embedded linux build with no access to install new scripts or anything
[14-Oct-2008 23:52:22] **Pikoro> otherwise I wouldn't be here
[14-Oct-2008 23:52:27] **`m3> lol, ok, so how do you plan to tackle that
[14-Oct-2008 23:52:54] **`m3> can it take an ssh shell command
[14-Oct-2008 23:53:37] **Pikoro> i can ssh in but it's a custom shell.. i can write scripts to access it via api but that brings me to a slightly different problem
[14-Oct-2008 23:54:31] **Pikoro> i have one of these routers that opens a pppoe session and updates it's dynamic dns entry automatically. Behind this router are 12 more just like it but accessable on different ports.
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:03] **Pikoro> it seems zenoss can't handle multiple devices with the same dns name or ip but on diffferent ports
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:13] **Pikoro> is there a workaround for that?
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:21] **`m3> well i think it assumes they are services on the same device
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:53] **`m3> i am not sure really, never really come accross the problem
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:59] **Pikoro> the other monitoring software i use (which i am trying to migrate to zenoss from) lets me create a seperate device and probe that device on a different port
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:07] **`m3> sounds like you running stuff through an adsl connection or something
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:18] **`m3> only 1 public ip etc
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:20] **Pikoro> my main router port forwards snmp to a different port for each one
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:50] **`m3> hm i think the snmp port can be altered
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:03] **`m3> but i dont know if you can do it with identical names
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:14] **Pikoro> yah, but all it does is update the entry for my gateway router
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:26] **`m3> yeh i had a feeling it might
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:46] **`m3> the truth is, an intelligent guess is that its not a seperate device
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:56] **`m3> because it has the same name, thats kind of a standard
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:11] **`m3> so i dont think zenoss will change , but hey i dont speak for them
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:17] **justizin> Pikoro: there is something in the wiki or tutorials on that, for pure http monitoring of many sites, each as a device, on separate ips
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:29] **justizin> er on same ip
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:47] **Pikoro> ahh, so you can monitor virtualnamedhosts
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:06] **Pikoro> these are all wireless access points...
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:28] **justizin> ah ok
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:38] **justizin> same host, different ports
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:52] **Pikoro> yah
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:52] **justizin> same problem, if you set up multiple hostname for each, pointing at the main router name..
[15-Oct-2008 00:00:00] **justizin> the most difficult conflict is that of same ip
[15-Oct-2008 00:00:11] **justizin> well, i speculate, i'm new here
[15-Oct-2008 00:00:16] **Pikoro> exactly.
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[15-Oct-2008 00:00:54] **Pikoro> say the main router is main.blah.jp and i access it on port 8192.
[15-Oct-2008 00:01:17] **Pikoro> i access a different one via main.blah.jp on port 8193, 8194, etc...
[15-Oct-2008 00:01:51] **Pikoro> all i need is a ping probe to that port and to snmp monitor on a different port foreach device behind the main router
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:06] **Pikoro> so i can get some basic usage stats out of it
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:07] **justizin> you can't ping a port, pikoro
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:15] **justizin> you can tcp connect monitor it, however..
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:35] **Pikoro> yah
[15-Oct-2008 00:03:09] **Pikoro> the catch is they need to be mapped as a seperate device in zenoss
[15-Oct-2008 00:03:18] **Pikoro> not mapped as services on one device
[15-Oct-2008 00:03:30] **Pikoro> which i could do, but i need the snmp data also
[15-Oct-2008 00:05:07] **justizin> that's how the tutorial on monitoring separate websites on same ip is set up, it says to make a separate device for each site, and add an http monitor. then there is something i forget to deal with zenoss complaining that these "devices" have ip overlap.
[15-Oct-2008 00:05:19] **justizin> should be the same for any multiple "hosts" masquerading as one ip
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:25] **Pikoro> sorry, a little different question. since some of these have dynamic dns entries, will zenoss probe by hostname or ip address
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:42] **Pikoro> if the ip changes will i have to update zenoss manually?
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:53] **`m3> yes and no
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:53] **justizin> that's a good question, for sure.
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:15] **`m3> as standard it will just complain and not update
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:40] **Pikoro> must be a zenpack or something that can "fix" that?
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:41] **`m3> but there is a snippet of script on the forums to automate the process of fixing that
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:45] **`m3> when the ip changes
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:46] **justizin> is there a way to force it to re-lookup the ip on each query?
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:53] **justizin> ah, a link would be great
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:57] **justizin> interesting problem to me, as well..
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:09] **`m3> i would have to google just the same
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:15] **justizin> sure
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:34] **`m3> my bed time + right now, gotta tear myself away, an informative evening, refreshing
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:50] **justizin> peace, `m3
[15-Oct-2008 00:09:00] **`m3> kool laters
[15-Oct-2008 00:09:27] **Pikoro>
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:03] **justizin> intruiging that "laters" has made it through irc all the way to nl ;d
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:14] **justizin> or who knows maybe we stole it from nl
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:23] **justizin> .. via irc ..
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:26] **justizin> :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:28] **Pikoro> it's not here in japan yet
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:37] **justizin> well, Pikoro, it's time for you to kick it off.
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:48] **justizin> maybe in a few years, with your help, people in Japan will speak my language!
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:54] **Pikoro> raitazu just doesn't sound the same
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:02] **justizin> loosely translated?
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:26] **Pikoro> katakana
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:44] **justizin> to english?
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:47] **Pikoro> レイタズ
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:04] * justizin is tragically undercultured
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:10] **Pikoro> heh
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:32] **justizin> i know *all* about tacos, and european beer. scotch. dutch pot. block art is my greatest familiarity with japan.
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:42] **justizin> well, and i worked for the company who made the first kanji terminal, afaik
[15-Oct-2008 00:13:14] **justizin> now, a kanji terminal with a block art background, *that* would be sweet.
[15-Oct-2008 00:13:23] **Pikoro> easy to do in linux
[15-Oct-2008 00:13:44] **justizin> yah i know i'm just being a goof
[15-Oct-2008 00:14:02] * justizin remembers when Eterm went pseudo-transparent
[15-Oct-2008 00:14:48] **Pikoro> i never did like enlightenment much
[15-Oct-2008 00:14:56] **Pikoro> too memory hungry and slowed things down
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:07] **justizin> i used to be huge on E16 + gnome-panel and gkrellm before i became a mac weenie.
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:08] **Pikoro> did E17 ever come out?
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:17] **justizin> i'm not sure, but there are some cool ideas in there for sure..
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:26] **justizin> i'd like to see GNUStep and Evas working together
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:49] **justizin> GNUStep's failure is relying on Motif or whatever
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:00] **Pikoro> i'm a blackbox guy myself
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:09] **justizin> sorry, s/mac\ weenie/apple\ fanboy/g
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:19] **justizin> to quote krose :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:42] **Pikoro> osx is about the only OS i actually feel comfortable in... the system I'm on now is a hackintosh
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:58] **Pikoro> problem is it won't pick up my third monitor
[15-Oct-2008 00:17:19] **justizin> d'oh
[15-Oct-2008 00:18:08] **justizin> the concepts behind osx are not that far from where x11 is nowadays, one of the main changes from NeXT to OSX in Quartz is that it uses a protocol more like x11 - c apis by default, support for PDF / PS code, rather than using PDF/ PS as default
[15-Oct-2008 00:18:30] **justizin> i had a buddy who was one of the NeXT guys working on Display PDF originally with Adobe and he said they were just too enamored with PostScript at the time as a programming language
[15-Oct-2008 00:18:59] **justizin> other than Quartz, Cocoa is one of the huge cool things and I still have some confidence a similar environment could prevail over the lameness of GNOME/KDE
[15-Oct-2008 00:19:05] **Pikoro> i just wish windows would move to the .app method.. ends dll hell right at the start
[15-Oct-2008 00:19:24] **justizin> in the right context it'd be hard even for Miguel to admit that Mono is easier to develop GUI apps with on Cocoa than with WinForms or GTK+
[15-Oct-2008 00:19:52] **justizin> well I think GNU/Linux can move to the .app and .Framework method, it's proposed in Single UNIX Spec and possible to do with a lot of pain in a from-scratch linux system..
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:21] **justizin> the linker model is a bit diff but i dunno, somehow .app works fine on linux with gnustep.. sometimes i dump Colloquy on my Mac for TalkSoup.app in my Ubuntu VM
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:29] **justizin> learning the root
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:31] **justizin> roots, that is
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:51] **justizin> anyway, now we're like #plone, devolving from Zope and Zope app talk into Mac fanboyism
[15-Oct-2008 00:21:03] **Pikoro> haha
[15-Oct-2008 00:21:04] **justizin> great, i've brought the plone-irc-virus ;d
[15-Oct-2008 00:21:30] **justizin> anyone know how to monitor Debian's apache processes, which are called apache2 instead of httpd? i tried the simplest, most obvious change, but no dice..
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:03] **justizin> for some reason, i noticed, my mysqld and httpd monitors failed for days or even a week and then one day just worked. am i crazy? did i fix it while totally intoxicated and forget how? if so, thank goodness zodb has a log of changes. :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:07] **Pikoro> rename the binary httpd and ln-s apache2 to it?
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:33] **justizin> rewrite system-level scripts that are overwritten in upgrades, versus changing a regex? i totally follow! :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:45] **justizin> dude i mean i changed the regex 'httpd' part to 'apache2' and no luck
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:49] **justizin> but also my httpd seemed not to work for a good while
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:52] **justizin> i forget exactly why
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:57] **justizin> i just kind of backed off zenoss a few days
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:58] **justizin> came back
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:02] **justizin> my snmp stuff stopped collecting
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:10] **justizin> and my httpd and mysql processes were tracking
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:15] **justizin> which is nuts because that should come from snmpd
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:35] **justizin> i can't wait to reset this whole demo system and start over without any of the first-week-of-learning-zenoss stuff around ;d
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:43] **justizin> but i have all these pretty graphs and don't want to nuke the data
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:03] **Pikoro> backup the perf directory
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:13] **justizin> well yah its just some of my issues also relate to the rrds
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:23] **justizin> my graphs all go on 5min average, but after a while i changed poll for snmp to 30s
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:48] **justizin> some newer graphs on newer hosts have much softer curves with more detail, higher peaks, etc.. but the pre-existing are stuck to the old model
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:59] **justizin> talked to #rrdtool and it's the rrd, it has an interval at creation
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:11] **justizin> so i'll leave most things as is until i fully have a handle on it
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:20] **justizin> put up some flat history graphs and start over
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:22] **justizin> for now, eh, whatever
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:34] **justizin> still trying to figure out the OSProcess regex stuff for things that run in an interpreter
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:42] **justizin> or anything else where i need to filter on arguments
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[15-Oct-2008 11:57:40] **Yotus> Does anyone know the status of the progress of layer 2 links between locations in the Google Map?
[15-Oct-2008 12:55:07] **jmp242> Yotus: I don't believe there's been any progress on Layer 2 mapping. . .
[15-Oct-2008 13:06:41] **nemo_> lol he only asked last night
[15-Oct-2008 13:06:53] **nemo_> did you actually make a trac bug Yotus
[15-Oct-2008 13:28:38] **Yotus> nemo_, no - not yet. I only noticed that it is 5 weeks ago that the initial layer 2 code was added to LinkManager.py.
[15-Oct-2008 13:41:44] **raddy> Is it possible Daemons permantently?
[15-Oct-2008 13:43:48] **nemo_> ? can has english ?
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:18] **raddy> nemo_ : is it possible to disable unneccessary daemons in ZenOSS permananently?
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:26] **nemo_> yes it is
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:34] **nemo_> vi `which zenoss` as zenoss user
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:42] **nemo_> comment the daemons you dont want to run
[15-Oct-2008 13:50:48] **raddy> nemo_ : thank you
[15-Oct-2008 13:51:38] **nemo_> de nada as they say in brazil
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:00] **raddy> nemo_ : vi 'which zenoss' didn't help
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:16] **raddy> nemo_ : vi is creating a new text file
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:32] **nemo_> ok edit the script called zenoss ( i am assuming your using rpm install like me )
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:47] **nemo_> [zenoss@monitor05 log]$ which zenoss
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:47] **nemo_> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:51] **raddy> nemo_ : of-course
[15-Oct-2008 13:54:12] **nemo_> and vi is just a text editor, use your favourite editor
[15-Oct-2008 13:54:29] **thrope> raddy: backticks ` not single quote ;
[15-Oct-2008 13:54:32] **thrope> *'
[15-Oct-2008 13:55:44] **raddy> thrope : ohh
[15-Oct-2008 13:56:45] **raddy> nemo_ : is the daemon list be in a distict location in zenoss text file?
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:40] **nemo_> raddy,
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:41] **nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m7a076448
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:49] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:52] **nemo_> thats part of my config, see how two of them are commented
[15-Oct-2008 13:58:00] **nemo_> follow that example, you should be good
[15-Oct-2008 14:04:39] **jmp242> Anyone have ideas on:
[15-Oct-2008 14:04:39] **jmp242> WMI connect error on mycomp: DeviceProxy instance has no attribute 'zWinUser'
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:07] **jmp242> I'm only seeing this on one of my Windows systems, one of the test ones that doesn't use the WMI zenpack...
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:39] **nemo_> What is the DeviceProxy bit jmp242
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:41] **thrope> I always got an error like that until i turned of zWinEventLog in zproperties (or something like that)
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:45] **nemo_> not bumped into that yet
[15-Oct-2008 14:06:26] **jmp242> IDK nemo_ - it's what the event summary is
[15-Oct-2008 14:06:56] **jmp242> I've never seen it in 2.1.2, but have it in 2.2.4 now that I've upgraded. And it's only one one testing computer right now so I'm not terribly worried
[15-Oct-2008 14:07:09] **jmp242> but it might be an issue I'd see elsewhere
[15-Oct-2008 14:39:58] **texasthunder> cgibbons: r u there?
[15-Oct-2008 17:42:32] **boingolov> heya `m3
[15-Oct-2008 17:42:42] **boingolov> do you have a second for a question regarding our conversation earlier?
[15-Oct-2008 17:43:16] **boingolov> I added a regex for vmware ESXi , it seems to be working in that it now properly pulls out the component, pid and summary bits
[15-Oct-2008 17:43:23] **boingolov> but it still goes to class unknown
[15-Oct-2008 17:44:12] **boingolov> I'm guessing I need to parse something to find the eventClassKey ?
[15-Oct-2008 17:45:08] **boingolov> would there be an easy way to set eventClassKey based on just the fact that the regex matched?
[15-Oct-2008 18:02:27] **`m3> sorry boingolov just left work
[15-Oct-2008 18:02:42] **`m3> i forget which log, not much help to you i know ...
[15-Oct-2008 18:02:49] **`m3> events.log perhaps
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[16-Oct-2008 06:11:33] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[16-Oct-2008 08:52:22] **emnaki> Question if I may, how do you distinguish between ping alerts and other event alerts?
[16-Oct-2008 09:27:06] **emnaki> Anyone free for a question?
[16-Oct-2008 11:45:31] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[16-Oct-2008 11:57:39] **jmp242> yes?
[16-Oct-2008 11:57:44] **jmp242> I'm out here
[16-Oct-2008 12:02:32] **raddy> jmp242 : what is the minimum daemons needed to be run to collect performance information, process status, and Port status and to access the Web interface.
[16-Oct-2008 12:03:21] **raddy> jmp242 : is there any advantage to collect Performance and Process status information via ssh instead snmp?
[16-Oct-2008 12:03:35] **raddy> jmp242 : i am monitoring my linux server
[16-Oct-2008 12:03:53] **raddy> jmp242 : zenoss is installed in that same server
[16-Oct-2008 12:04:48] **jmp242> You pretty much need all the daemons, depending on whether you're using command based performance collectors
[16-Oct-2008 12:05:20] **jmp242> If you're not doing Windows, or WMI anyway, you could stop ZenWin
[16-Oct-2008 12:05:23] **jmp242> and ZenEventLog
[16-Oct-2008 12:05:47] **jmp242> You need ZenModeler to actually model a device for future polling
[16-Oct-2008 12:06:02] **jmp242> but once you've done that, you could turn it off and not automatically re-look every 6 hours
[16-Oct-2008 12:06:11] **jmp242> just remember you will need to turn it back on when you add a device
[16-Oct-2008 12:06:44] **jmp242> ZenTrap is used for SNMP traps, if you're not recieving traps I guess you could turn that off.
[16-Oct-2008 12:07:04] **jmp242> zenSyslog is the same for recieving syslog forwards
[16-Oct-2008 12:07:21] **jmp242> The only reason you'd want to mess with ssh is if you can't use SNMP IMO
[16-Oct-2008 12:18:37] **raddy> jmp242 : you have counted all the daemons i have disabled
[16-Oct-2008 12:19:00] **raddy> jmp242 : i have disabled even zenping.
[16-Oct-2008 12:19:12] **raddy> jmp242 : is it good?
[16-Oct-2008 12:20:03] **Quadro> hm. what do you need that zenoss for?
[16-Oct-2008 12:23:19] **raddy> Quadro : i didn't get you
[16-Oct-2008 12:24:04] **jmp242> Zenping is used for status, that is: is a device up or down
[16-Oct-2008 12:25:23] **raddy> jmp242 : ohh, but is it useful for local installation?
[16-Oct-2008 12:28:00] **jmp242> What do you mean?
[16-Oct-2008 12:28:24] **jmp242> It's useful for knowing if a device is up or down
[16-Oct-2008 12:32:16] **raddy> jmp242 : as i already told, zenoss is currently installed in the server that to be monitored, at any time zenoss will be able to ping it's own device, so the results won't be accurate
[16-Oct-2008 12:32:41] **jmp242> wait - you only want to monitor one server, the one that Zenoss is installed on?
[16-Oct-2008 12:33:05] **jmp242> that's not a normal usecase for Zenoss . . . I suppose you could do that, but it seems a little overkill to me ?
[16-Oct-2008 12:59:38] **raddy> jmp242 : are you suggesting some lighter solutions like Zabbix?
[16-Oct-2008 13:00:35] **jmp242> not really?
[16-Oct-2008 13:00:45] **jmp242> I'm just thinking that if all you want to look at is one computer
[16-Oct-2008 13:00:55] **jmp242> couldn't you just use the built in stuff?
[16-Oct-2008 13:01:48] **jmp242> I'm not sure what you're actually trying to do however, but I'm just thinking you know, look at top occasionally, and see if the power button light is on . . .
[16-Oct-2008 13:04:10] **Quadro> 8)
[16-Oct-2008 13:50:57] **Weetos> Hi there
[16-Oct-2008 13:52:31] **Weetos> I'd like to apply an SNMP to multiple discovered devices at once, what would be the best approach ?
[16-Oct-2008 13:52:41] **Weetos> *SNMP Community*
[16-Oct-2008 13:54:13] **Weetos> Anyone ?
[16-Oct-2008 14:05:36] **jmp242> using a subclass for them, and changing the zProperty
[16-Oct-2008 14:05:54] **jmp242> mmm sorry, for discovered devices?
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:04] **Weetos> yep
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:19] **jmp242> maybe try one of the batchloaders? or change the autodiscovery to use the community
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:22] **jmp242> you want for that set?
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:52] **Weetos> Well I thought I could setup a menu item for that
[16-Oct-2008 14:07:24] **Weetos> something like 'Set Community...' which would use 'dialog_SetCommunity'
[16-Oct-2008 14:07:44] **Weetos> unfortunately dialog_SetCommunity doens't seem to be available
[16-Oct-2008 14:51:06] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[16-Oct-2008 14:51:48] **raddy> I have disabled some ZenOSS daemons for decreasing memory usage
[16-Oct-2008 14:53:26] **raddy> Now zenoss is not running httpdmonitor and graph is not being drawn anymore
[16-Oct-2008 14:54:49] **raddy> shall i list the daemons that i disabled/
[16-Oct-2008 14:56:30] **jmp242> httpdmonitor uses zencommand and zenactions I believe
[16-Oct-2008 14:56:37] **jmp242> you'll need them running for that to work
[16-Oct-2008 14:58:16] **raddy> jmp242 : i have it enabled
[16-Oct-2008 14:58:39] **raddy> jmp242 : graph it self is not getting drawn
[16-Oct-2008 15:00:49] **jmp242> hmmm
[16-Oct-2008 15:01:32] **raddy> jmp242 : but i am still not sure
[16-Oct-2008 15:01:51] **raddy> jmp242 : we have 3 monitoring systems installed
[16-Oct-2008 15:02:12] **raddy> jmp242 : 2 are off-site 3rd party
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:25] **raddy> jmp242 : Among 2 only one reported our website as down. neither zenoss nor the the other one didn't report
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:43] **jmp242> hmmm, to be honest I've not messed with the Daemons Zenoss runs
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:49] **raddy> jmp242 : so, have to wait and see
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:51] **jmp242> I run it on a pretty much dedicated monitoring server
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:06] **raddy> jmp242 : ohh cool
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:07] **jmp242> so I'm not sure all the implications of turning off certain Daemons
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:22] **jmp242> One problem is you might need to delete the .pickle files
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:27] **jmp242> if you change the config
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:34] **jmp242> they are stored in the perf dirs with the rrd files
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:46] **jmp242> so $ZENHOME/perf/device/.pickle IIRC
[16-Oct-2008 15:05:04] **jmp242> and perhaps restart Zenoss in general...
[16-Oct-2008 15:07:42] **raddy> jmp242 : ohhh
[16-Oct-2008 15:08:23] **raddy> jmp242 : i'll see whether the issue was real
[16-Oct-2008 15:15:01] **jb> anybody here familar with multigraph reports?
[16-Oct-2008 15:16:20] **jb> im wondering if you can re-label the legend to custom names instead of displaying the actual device name that the datapoint is coming frmo?
[16-Oct-2008 16:10:16] **pjz> I just installed zenoss via the debian zenoss-stack package; what's the default admin username/password?
[16-Oct-2008 16:11:04] **rhett_> admin/zenoss
[16-Oct-2008 16:11:17] **pjz> thanks
[16-Oct-2008 16:11:21] **rhett_> np
[16-Oct-2008 16:12:19] **pjz> is there a way to make all the info readonly without having to log in?
[16-Oct-2008 16:12:25] **pjz> I'm really new to this
[16-Oct-2008 16:13:22] **pjz> also: how can I make it run on port 80 instead of 8080 ? I can just hack a forwarding rule into iptables if need be, but that seems a bit... meh
[16-Oct-2008 16:14:21] **rhett_> i am unsure on both of those
[16-Oct-2008 16:19:29] **jmp242> pjz
[16-Oct-2008 16:19:42] **jmp242> readonly without logging in is discussed on the forums
[16-Oct-2008 16:19:54] **jmp242> I'm not sure there was a "good" way to do it, there wasn't much consensus that I saw
[16-Oct-2008 16:20:06] **jmp242> searching will give you several threads that might get you going
[16-Oct-2008 16:20:29] **jmp242> as to changing port, the only way I've done it is via Apache and a rewrite rule so I can actually use 443, i.e. HTTPS
[16-Oct-2008 16:20:47] **jmp242> which I do recommend due to the storage of passwords and how zenoss might show them in some of the logs etc
[16-Oct-2008 16:21:18] **jmp242> It is Zope, so I expect some googling on Zope would maybe give you a hint for just changing where Zope listens . . .
[16-Oct-2008 16:33:35] **jb> argh.. check_ping is returning a RTA of 0.0275ms
[16-Oct-2008 16:33:42] **jb> but, ite graphing that as 275.0ms
[16-Oct-2008 16:33:47] **jb> and i dont know why
[16-Oct-2008 16:52:47] **jb> any RRD experts?
[16-Oct-2008 17:32:01] **krphop> jb: thats probably becuase the gprint is set to do that
[16-Oct-2008 17:32:38] **krphop> you can remove the %s from the gconf string
[16-Oct-2008 17:33:32] **krphop> s/gconf/gprint
[16-Oct-2008 18:08:50] **jb> hm
[16-Oct-2008 18:09:55] **jb> that was it!
[16-Oct-2008 18:10:16] **jb> thank!
[16-Oct-2008 18:10:17] **jb> s
[16-Oct-2008 18:17:14] **nemo2> krphop, can you explain where to do that
[16-Oct-2008 18:17:31] **nemo2> i didnt understand but kinda have the same issues in one or two places
[16-Oct-2008 18:24:56] **pjz> okay, I just set it up, and I try to add a device but nothing gets added. What am I doing wrong?
[16-Oct-2008 18:25:30] chowmein_ is now known as chowmein
[16-Oct-2008 18:25:31] **pjz> I'm pointing it at a valid hostname, giving it the right snmp community, but it's not autodiscovering
[16-Oct-2008 18:32:48] **jb> go to your data source
[16-Oct-2008 18:32:50] **jb> graph point
[16-Oct-2008 18:32:54] **jb> and its in the "Format"
[16-Oct-2008 18:35:41] **nemo2> thx jb, appreciated
[16-Oct-2008 18:36:10] **nemo2> pjz, snmpwalk it from the cmd line
[16-Oct-2008 18:36:22] **nemo2> if that works , then troubleshoot why zenoss isnt seeing it
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:01] **pjz> snmpwalk works
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:17] **pjz> though I had to install snmpwalk; the debian package should have pulled it in.
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:44] **pjz> I've got some events in /zport/dmd/Events/viewEvents that list finding it
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:52] **pjz> but the links under 'device' go to an empty list
[16-Oct-2008 18:40:48] **pjz> it can't be a database problem because it installed its own version of mysql; I've got to assume it did so competently
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:17] **nemo2> ok , well you should check what the logs say, when you add the device you dont get any feedback ?
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:32] **nemo2> logs are in /opt/zenoss/logs ( on my RH /rpm system )
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:40] **nemo2> yours maybe different
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:50] **nemo2> log even, not logs
[16-Oct-2008 18:43:23] **pjz> Result: []
[16-Oct-2008 18:47:11] **pjz> okay, going to wipe and restart in case some IP-changing shenanigans confused it
[16-Oct-2008 19:01:55] **jb> hmm.. anybody made zenpacks?
[16-Oct-2008 19:02:09] **nemo2> yes jb
[16-Oct-2008 19:02:31] **nemo2> you need to make a container or something first, before you got something to add zenpack to.
[16-Oct-2008 19:03:06] **nemo2> my zenoss is at work, not logged in, but its documented in the admin guide
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:08] **jb> well
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:12] **jb> i have wrote a modeler..
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:26] **jb> i thought restarting zope would compile it into a .pyc
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:29] **jb> but its not working..
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:30] **jb> any ideas?
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:51] **nemo2> i *think* it does on mine
[16-Oct-2008 19:05:03] **nemo2> i changed them and changes worked, new pyc files
[16-Oct-2008 19:05:12] **jb> hm
[16-Oct-2008 19:06:08] **jb> ah there it goes
[16-Oct-2008 19:06:11] **jb> i just did a full restart
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:01] **nemo2> how did you restart zope
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:06] **jb> zopectl restart
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:14] **nemo2> i think its zeoctl you want
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:19] **jb> still not working, but its at least compiled
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:28] **jb> do you have to do anything else when writing custom modelers?
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:29] **nemo2> if i recall the way a zenoss guy told me
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:33] **jb> i just wrote the .py
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:44] **jb> copied it from DellDeviceMap into a new already existing zenpack
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:46] **nemo2> really not sure, uncharted territory for me
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:49] **jb> k
[16-Oct-2008 19:20:04] **jb> nemo, are you running core or enterprise?
[16-Oct-2008 19:20:38] **sn1ffer72> ok.. who has successfully loaded the INFORMANT mibs?
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:18] **sn1ffer72> never mind
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:20] **sn1ffer72> http://www.snmp-informant.com
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:23] **sn1ffer72> I just downloaded it
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:28] **adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:37] **sn1ffer72> and noticed that I will have to install it on every box that I want stats from
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:39] **sn1ffer72> not an option
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:46] **sn1ffer72> forme
[16-Oct-2008 19:25:34] **jb> yep
[16-Oct-2008 19:25:38] **jb> why?
[16-Oct-2008 19:25:40] **jb> its just a file
[16-Oct-2008 19:38:02] **boingolov> is there an easy way to map all events that come from syslog on a given host / class of hosts to a given event class in one swoop? specifically those that would otherwise go to /Unknown ?
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:11] **nemo2> ent jb
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:22] **nemo2> i do have a core box out on the internet
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:43] **nemo2> but i think mysql ate itself because of a neglected event log , or something
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:59] **sn1ffer72> yeah.. I am setting this up for all groups in my company
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:11] **sn1ffer72> many of which are even skeptical to using SNMP
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:16] **sn1ffer72> I know stupid, but that's how it is
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:25] **pjz> if I added an snmpd to a box after I added the box to zenoss, how do I tell zenoss that it's now snmp-enabled?
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:33] **sn1ffer72> even though I am using SNMP on 60,000 other nodes
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:39] **nemo2> boingolov, all about that regex dude
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:48] **nemo2> the right regex does it all, the perfect storm etc
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:55] **sn1ffer72> go into the zProperties
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:06] **sn1ffer72> and make sure that the Ignore SNMP is set to false
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:06] **boingolov> nemo2, would you mind taking a look at mine to see what I might be doing wrong?
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:28] **nemo2> pastebin for everyone to see boingolov , i will gladly look too
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:53] **nemo2> i didnt touch that wierd py regex stuff since 5 months when i got it going
[16-Oct-2008 19:47:46] **boingolov> http://pastebin.com/m1f1322f5
[16-Oct-2008 19:47:53] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[16-Oct-2008 19:48:02] **pjz> sn1ffer72: thanks
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:19] **nemo2> boingolov, can you post some of the original regex too
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:32] **nemo2> the date stuff is auto done
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:35] **nemo2> you start from the date
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:39] **boingolov> sure
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:40] **nemo2> after the date sorry
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:50] **pjz> boingolov: are you sure that's a space between the timestamp/ps and the component? could it be a tab instead?
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:02] **boingolov> yes, I do. but the date is relatively unimportant, especially since the base system seems to run at GMT
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:04] **pjz> either way, won't hurt to replace it with \s+
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:13] **boingolov> pjz, good point
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:24] **nemo2> boingolov, what i meant is dont start your regex on the date
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:28] **boingolov> does \s in py cover all whitespace, including tab?
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:30] **nemo2> its auto done somehow
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:37] **pjz> boingolov: I think so
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:57] **nemo2> its already somehow covered , thats the mistake i made
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:24] **boingolov> pjz, the thing is, I believe that regex is working because it now properly splits out the facility
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:27] **nemo2> try a more permissive .*WARNING:
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:28] **nemo2> or so
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:32] **boingolov> err, not facility, but the component
[16-Oct-2008 19:52:31] **boingolov> but from my reading of the code (IANAPP - i am not a python programmer), it looks like in the abasence of an eventClass of eventClassKey variable in the regex that matches, it will go for component and try to find a mapping for an event class .
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:06] **nemo2> boingolov, i suggest you compare yours starting with the date, and the other default regex's
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:11] **boingolov> and in the absence of a mapping for given component (vmkernel in this case), it will go to Unknown , correct?
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:22] **nemo2> indeed
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:50] **nemo2> you can only map those with a component
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:56] **nemo2> its very confusing
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:26] **boingolov> it makes sense that if it's not parsing the vmware syslog format, it probably doesn't know much about its components either
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:28] **nemo2> if a message comes in with a component, and its still in unknown
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:34] **nemo2> you can map it to a class
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:37] **boingolov> right
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:44] **nemo2> but with no component it cant work
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:46] **boingolov> and I've successfully done that with messages from crond (lower case)
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:54] **nemo2> kool.
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:57] **boingolov> it had one for upper case CROND, but didn't seem to want to match
[16-Oct-2008 19:55:17] **nemo2> not a biggy once you get used to cleaning them up
[16-Oct-2008 19:55:32] **nemo2> and of course if done right you dont see it in unknown again
[16-Oct-2008 19:55:39] **boingolov> yeah
[16-Oct-2008 19:56:15] **boingolov> okay, after I do an event class mapping, what do I have to restart in order to make it active, short of restarting the whole stack?
[16-Oct-2008 19:56:57] **nemo2> mapping ?
[16-Oct-2008 19:57:08] **nemo2> i would restart zensyslog and zeo
[16-Oct-2008 19:57:14] **nemo2> zeoctl
[16-Oct-2008 19:57:16] **boingolov> okay
[16-Oct-2008 20:05:04] **pjz> anyone monitor debian boxes? do you put anything on them other than snmpd for monitoring?
[16-Oct-2008 20:05:22] **pjz> are there extra mibs I should be putting somewhere?
[16-Oct-2008 20:16:57] **jb> anyone here using AD auth in enterprise>?
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:11] **nemo2> yeh
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:16] **jb> so.. how does it work?
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:19] **jb> i haven configured it
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:23] **jb> s/haven/have
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:31] **nemo2> as described in the manual is about all i can say
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:34] **jb> obviously, the users need to be created
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:36] **jb> in zenoss..
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:42] **jb> so then does it look at AD for the password?
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:44] **nemo2> our ad structure changed, i fixed it, it keeps on working
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:48] **jb> the docs really don't say.. they just say how to configure it
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:00] **nemo2> not sure if it only auths against or somehow takes the hash or whatever
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:12] **jb> but, you created local users in zen, right?
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:16] **nemo2> noooo
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:17] **nemo2>
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:24] **jb> so how are you assigning zen privs?
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:27] **nemo2> its ad, your users are in the AD
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:34] **nemo2> most people are default zenuser
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:45] **nemo2> i make manual changes to peoples user on zenoss side
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:52] **nemo2> you can edit each user
[16-Oct-2008 20:19:05] **jb> hmm
[16-Oct-2008 20:19:06] **jb> ok
[16-Oct-2008 20:19:13] **jb> so all of your AD users are showing up in the users panel on zen?
[16-Oct-2008 20:27:53] * nemo2 nods
[16-Oct-2008 20:52:18] **boingolov> okay, after more digging I realized that vmware's syslog output is mostly being matched by the unix syslog ones, with a couple of exceptions. also, I was wrong earlier that my mapping for crond was successful
[16-Oct-2008 20:52:27] **boingolov> some assumptions I've had are apparently invalid
[16-Oct-2008 20:56:58] **boingolov> is there an easy way to turn on debug logging?
[16-Oct-2008 21:02:41] **boingolov> ahhhhh, so THAT is what the logging threshold does
[16-Oct-2008 21:02:53] **boingolov> that's for internal logging, not some sort of filter on what syslog severity it looks at
[16-Oct-2008 21:12:16] **boingolov> http://pastebin.com/m769368c1 <-- could someone take a look and tell me what they think?
[16-Oct-2008 21:12:23] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[16-Oct-2008 22:38:42] **boingolov> okay, should that code even be calling hasattr() ?
[16-Oct-2008 22:39:12] **boingolov> should that not be evt.has_key() ?
[16-Oct-2008 22:41:53] **boingolov> hrm, just changed all hasattr's to evt.has_key's and it seems to be working properly. is this a bug?
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:09] **nemo2> perhaps i had things 99% working
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:24] **nemo2> with many different log formats
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:34] **nemo2> there always seemed 1 or 2
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:43] **boingolov> the version I'm tinkering with is 2.2.0
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:59] **nemo2> mine was 2.1.3 i had those problems with running 2.2.3 now
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:02] **boingolov> anyone running 2.2.4 care to pastebin their SyslogProcessing.py ?
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:16] **boingolov> that would work as well
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:28] **nemo2> work , not connected , sry
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:42] **boingolov> just curious to see the buildClassEventKey method
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:44] **boingolov> np
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:02] **boingolov> I'm downloading the 2.2.4 stack right now, will tinker with it in the a.m.
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:09] **boingolov> I have a feeling this has already been fixed
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:17] **nemo2> just grab a zip of zenoss
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:24] **nemo2> and compare
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:28] **boingolov> that's what I'm doing, going kind of slow though
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:39] **boingolov> oh, you can just grab zenoss itsself?
[16-Oct-2008 22:51:03] **nemo2> you can get the src yeh
[16-Oct-2008 22:51:03] **boingolov> ahh, so you can
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:08] **boingolov> hah, sure enough
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:11] **boingolov> it's has_key now
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:19] **boingolov> whoo hoo @ crash course in python
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:46] **nemo2> kool, i need a new python buddy
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:47] **nemo2>
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:58] **boingolov> heh,not too likely
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:12] **boingolov> anything that takes its queues from makefiles is no friend of mine
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:24] **nemo2> hehe
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:28] **boingolov> why can't they just use a semicolon??
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:49] **nemo2> i just tried c syntax and failed and then hit the docs
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:55] **nemo2> still taking baby steps
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:05] **boingolov> aye
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:09] **nemo2> get excited when my 20 script works !
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:14] **nemo2> 20 line ..
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:15] **boingolov> my first intro to python was working w/ trac
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:38] **nemo2> is py multithreaded
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:38] **boingolov> oh well, time for me to go home
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:40] **nemo2> i guess it is
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:58] **boingolov> I would imagine it at least supports fork() , but threads for an interpreted lang are always iffy
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:04] **boingolov> I know they're a little iffy in perl
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:15] **nemo2> yeh and plain fake in php
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:16] **nemo2>
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:21] **boingolov> heh
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:36] **boingolov> oh well, thanks for listening to me ramble
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:40] **nemo2> same
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:40] **boingolov> time for me to head to the house
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:44] **boingolov> later all
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:48] **nemo2> later
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[17-Oct-2008 02:15:03] **emnaki> Anyone not afk and willing to help me with a transform question?
[17-Oct-2008 03:33:03] **justizin> has anyone got the zenoss 2.3 beta rpms for el5-64 working? even with a bit of zope / python environment hacking, and creating my own zeo / zope instances, i have issues like not able to load librrd.so
[17-Oct-2008 03:38:27] **rhett> is there a way to model all the devices in a particular device class?
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[17-Oct-2008 09:11:22] **monrad> hmm in 2.1 all the collected ips on interfaces and virtual interfaces are /32, but in 2.2.4 they are /24 anyone seen that?
[17-Oct-2008 16:36:38] **justizin> when I add a new OSProcess, it seems not to show up until after a few days, perhaps when the collector is restarted, or perhaps when the client machine or at least its' snmpd is reset. the latter seems to have happened last night.
[17-Oct-2008 18:30:57] **justizin> hm, wierd.. restarted snmpd, restarted zenperfsnmp.. zenoss refuses to accept almost any new configuration when i am around to watch it.
[17-Oct-2008 18:31:59] **justizin> unless i am *extremely* proficient at configuring zenoss when i am drunk, or in some sleepwalking-type state, it's like the proverbial watched pot of systems monitoring ;d
[17-Oct-2008 18:33:17] **nemo2> look in your logs ?
[17-Oct-2008 19:16:12] **boingolov> whoo hoo, 2.2.4 seems to work a lot better w/ ESX . at least now I'm able to map events and the results make sense
[17-Oct-2008 19:16:27] **boingolov> this wasn't really esx specific I guess
[17-Oct-2008 20:15:00] **boingolov> okay, so back to my original question: is there a good way to filter at the zensyslog level info level messages ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:15:30] **boingolov> or at least do a filter at the device class level where all zensyslog messages below a certain severity get thrown away?
[17-Oct-2008 20:15:53] **nemo2> transforms boingolov , or zproerties on the event class to lower / drop the event
[17-Oct-2008 20:17:06] **boingolov> nemo2, the only issue is that there are soooo many different types of events to map
[17-Oct-2008 20:19:19] **nemo2> i seem to still find new ones, but i am running 2.2.3
[17-Oct-2008 20:25:17] **boingolov> I think I might experiment with setting up a standard syslog, have ESX ship to that, then have it do filtering and then forward on to zensyslog
[17-Oct-2008 20:33:16] **justizin> boingolov: not a bad idea at all..
[17-Oct-2008 20:33:41] * justizin wrestles with trying to reset mysql root pw on his zenoss stack install
[17-Oct-2008 20:34:37] **boingolov> justizin, you using mysqladmin ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:35:18] **justizin> yah, i shut down and started using the command from mysql/scripts/ctl.sh, roughly, with --skip-grant-tables and --skip-networking
[17-Oct-2008 20:35:42] **justizin> pointing directly at the socket with mysql -S and get ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:11] **boingolov> justizin, sounds like you just need to tell it to prompt you for a password
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:14] **boingolov> by default it won't
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:22] **justizin> i don't know the password, i need to change it
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:39] **boingolov> that password will be in a config file somewhere
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:54] **justizin> which is why i started mysql with --skip-grant-tables
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:56] **justizin> 'somewhere' yay ;d
[17-Oct-2008 20:37:08] **boingolov> hehe
[17-Oct-2008 20:38:05] **justizin> anyone know what the default is?
[17-Oct-2008 20:38:22] **boingolov> can't say that I do
[17-Oct-2008 20:39:12] **justizin> it seems that it may have prompted me for this password. it's totally possible to reset a pw with root access, but the standard practice for doing so is not working.
[17-Oct-2008 20:39:19] **boingolov> it prompts you for that whenever you install
[17-Oct-2008 20:39:31] **boingolov> and yes, you're right
[17-Oct-2008 20:41:25] **boingolov> there should be a way to reset
[17-Oct-2008 20:42:01] **justizin> there is, according to several tutorials i found in google, you pass --skip-grant-tables to safe_mysqld, but that's not changing anything
[17-Oct-2008 20:42:28] **boingolov> justizin, are you 100% positive you're starting the correct instance of mysqld ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:42:35] **boingolov> i.e., the one that exists in /usr/local/zenoss/mysql ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:05] **justizin> boingolov: as i said, i copied the command out of the script.
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:08] **justizin> i got an answer
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:26] **justizin> it wouldn't matter what version of mysql i was starting anyway, if the socket is in the startup cmd, and it refuses connections, that's odd.
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:35] **justizin> even if it was the wrong mysql, it should give me access to the wrong mysql
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:57] **boingolov> one would think
[17-Oct-2008 20:44:34] **boingolov> though I suppose it's vaguely possible there could be some issue one version of mysql client that may be installed in /usr/bin might have issues talking with a different version of mysql, but I've done in this in the past with no problems
[17-Oct-2008 20:48:38] **boingolov> I grepped for my password and got hits on $ZENHOME/var/DAta.fs and zeo1-1.zec
[17-Oct-2008 20:49:00] **boingolov> I'm guessing those are the internal databases
[17-Oct-2008 20:49:36] **boingolov> the zope database or whatever
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:10] **justizin> that is zenoss user pw
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:15] **justizin> can't even see the 'mysql' db
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:30] **boingolov> ahh, could be. in my case, the admin password is the same as the root db pw
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:42] **justizin> sure.
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:33] **boingolov> otoh, it has to store it somewhere, and it's not in a config file
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:47] **boingolov> otoh, there could be a two-way hash involved
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:57] **boingolov> so it may be in a config file for all I knwo
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:59] **boingolov> know even
[17-Oct-2008 21:03:30] **justizin> so, i was just doing maintenance on my zenoss mysql server, and took it down, and zenoss was able to track that. pretty neat, my question is: how? does it have a queue in the pollers or something in case a db write fails?
[17-Oct-2008 21:10:21] **justizin> hm, odd, i wonder if this is zenoss or my fault, there were three entries for 'root' - 'localhost', '127.0.0.1', and my public hostname, and i dont think mysqladmin knew what to update. updating user table directly worked, but is a pain.
[17-Oct-2008 21:27:20] **rhett> i am drawing a blank how to get an alert when ifOperStatus goes up or down for a class. i thought i saw something in the class zproperties but it looks like i was mistaken. any one have an answer?
[17-Oct-2008 21:33:21] **boingolov> whoo hoo, minpriority seems to actually work in 2.2.4
[17-Oct-2008 21:33:51] **boingolov> for zensyslog
[17-Oct-2008 21:34:04] **boingolov> I don't actually need to run a seperate syslog after all. at least not for this reason anyway
[17-Oct-2008 21:56:01] **justizin> does zenoss use a ZSQL adapter to talk to MySQL?
[17-Oct-2008 21:56:10] **justizin> or, if not, how can i change what MySQL it looks to?
[17-Oct-2008 22:50:05] **justizin> hm. i find sql port in ZenEventManager and ZenEventHistory, but changing it doesn't seem to look to a new db.
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[18-Oct-2008 05:48:06] **justizin> i often get process restarted alerts for things like apache which are not restarting. any ideas? links? help? pls?
[18-Oct-2008 06:24:20] **rhett1> i have no clue :\
[18-Oct-2008 19:01:49] **boingolov> has anyone managed to set apache up as a frontend where it's under a path that isn't root? for instance, examploe.com/zenoss/ ?
[18-Oct-2008 19:01:59] **boingolov> I've tried the following rewrite rule and it isn't working:
[18-Oct-2008 19:02:24] **boingolov> RewriteRule ^/zenoss/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/%{SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_zenoss/$1 [L,P]
[18-Oct-2008 19:03:14] **boingolov> it keeps trying to redirect to url's that are based off /
[18-Oct-2008 19:03:26] **boingolov> like /zport/dmd/
[18-Oct-2008 19:12:20] **boingolov> ahh, cool, seem to have fixed by doing another rewriterule:
[18-Oct-2008 19:12:37] **boingolov> RewriteRule ^/(zport/.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/%{SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_zenoss/$1 [L,P]
[18-Oct-2008 19:19:19] **boingolov> little ugly but it works
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[19-Oct-2008 14:50:02] **sn1ffer72> Good morning.. has anyone tried to graph the output of a nagios check command
[19-Oct-2008 14:50:21] **sn1ffer72> such as the response time to a command like check_smtp or check_ntp?
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[20-Oct-2008 10:19:30] **ToM-_> Has anyone ever detached web frontend from the background processes of zenoss?
[20-Oct-2008 12:20:35] **dfar> Hello
[20-Oct-2008 12:20:58] **dfar> I have a small question if you don't mind
[20-Oct-2008 12:21:17] **dfar> I am testing Zenoss Core 2.2.3
[20-Oct-2008 12:21:50] **dfar> And I created test locations when adding devices, and now I want to remove that location
[20-Oct-2008 12:21:57] **dfar> Where do I do that ?
[20-Oct-2008 12:24:18] **Quadro> /Locations, Sub-locations menu?
[20-Oct-2008 12:24:40] **dfar> I don't see any delete/remove only add there
[20-Oct-2008 12:25:23] **dfar> I can delete organizers but not locations
[20-Oct-2008 12:26:27] **dfar> if I do "edit" "set location" I got a list with locations
[20-Oct-2008 12:26:35] **dfar> Its in this list I want to trim
[20-Oct-2008 12:29:41] **Quadro> 'organizer' means 'location' in /Locations section
[20-Oct-2008 12:31:18] **dfar> The problem is when I remove organizers I still got the "/" "/Belgium" "/Brussels" in the list when I do "set location..."
[20-Oct-2008 12:32:58] **dfar> see what I mean ?
[20-Oct-2008 12:33:31] **dfar> When you get under "browse by - Locations"
[20-Oct-2008 12:34:34] **dfar> there is the menu near status
[20-Oct-2008 12:34:53] **dfar> in this menu under "edit"
[20-Oct-2008 12:35:09] **dfar> you got "set location"
[20-Oct-2008 12:35:22] **dfar> and in the popup I see a list
[20-Oct-2008 12:35:52] **dfar> with multiple /something
[20-Oct-2008 12:36:06] **dfar> I want to remove what I added there
[20-Oct-2008 12:46:28] **dfar> it's a very quiet channel here(C)
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:01] **carpenike> hello
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:17] **rhett> hello
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:28] **carpenike> I'm getting this error when attempting to install Zenoss with either the SVN or current stable release
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:31] **carpenike> install-functions.sh: line 65: 16761 Segmentation fault mysql -h ${MYSQLHOST} -u ${MYSQLUSER} --port=${MYSQLPORT} -p"${MYSQLPASS}" < /dev/null > /dev/null
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:16] **carpenike> mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:26] **carpenike> I'm pretty certain the password is correect.
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:33] **rhett> hm
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:34] **carpenike> I've typed it in several times and when I run mysql -u root -p
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:37] **carpenike> I can login fine.
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:51] **rhett> i havnt seen that myself but im not an expert. what os?
[20-Oct-2008 16:42:02] **carpenike> Gentoo
[20-Oct-2008 16:48:33] **rhett> hm
[20-Oct-2008 16:49:05] **rhett> what i am reading (translated from a chinese website) suggests that maybe its an issue with your mysql version?
[20-Oct-2008 16:49:16] **rhett> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxnotes.cn%2F%3Fp%3D74&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en
[20-Oct-2008 16:49:27] **rhett> thats about as much help as i can be. sorry :\
[20-Oct-2008 17:02:55] **carpenike> okay!
[20-Oct-2008 17:02:56] **carpenike> Thanks!
[20-Oct-2008 17:16:55] **rhett> np
[20-Oct-2008 18:02:26] **|-Rkoz-|> good afternoon....i'm new Zenoos and I'm trying out the WMI feature...if I go to the Zproperties of a Windows Server, I have the "zWinPassword" and "ZWinUser" setup with a domain admin account. It does not seem that I can connect and I just get errors. i believe the 2 services listed in the admin guide are running on the target server
[20-Oct-2008 18:04:26] **jmp242> What version is the Windows Server?
[20-Oct-2008 18:08:29] **|-Rkoz-|> windows 2003 standard
[20-Oct-2008 18:08:46] **jmp242> Hmmm. Did you use DOMAIN\user for the username?
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:21] **|-Rkoz-|> i did
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:32] **carpenike> rhett: FYI: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6130&highlight=segmentation+fault
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:46] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Intall failing (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:49] **jmp242> What is the specific error?
[20-Oct-2008 18:15:09] **|-Rkoz-|> one min, i will get it for you
[20-Oct-2008 18:16:22] **|-Rkoz-|> WMI connect error on ehcc01.jmhosp.org: 88: DOS code 0x00000058
[20-Oct-2008 18:19:11] **|-Rkoz-|> interesting...maybe it is just that server....
[20-Oct-2008 18:19:58] **sn1ffer72> has anyone noticed that when things items that cannot be polled constantly create error messages such as trying to use a RedHat mib to poll a solaris box
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:00] **|-Rkoz-|> if i look at another server....(under 'status') it lists the "cpupercentprocessortime" ; "memoriavilabileKBytes"
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:17] **|-Rkoz-|> is that stuff pulled from WMI?
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:17] **sn1ffer72> yeah..those memAvailKbytes etc
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:59] **jmp242> I think this is a bug... I've see this thread: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=15967#15967
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:12] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zeneventlog: ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: 2.1.2 VM Appliance (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:15] **jmp242> 2.3 is supposed to have reworked WMI to fix some of these
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:22] **jmp242> Note, I am not experianceing it however
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:39] **jmp242> that DOS CODE might be worthwhile looking at as that's what Windows is saying
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:58] **|-Rkoz-|> ok, when did 2.3 come out? i've been running this for <1 month
[20-Oct-2008 18:22:37] **jmp242> It's not out yet
[20-Oct-2008 18:22:43] **|-Rkoz-|> oh =)
[20-Oct-2008 18:22:45] **jmp242> Supposed to be sometime November
[20-Oct-2008 18:23:16] **jmp242> Note it's the numeric version of ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT
[20-Oct-2008 18:23:31] **jmp242> Which usually has to do with somehow the windows PC not accepting the username/password IME with Zenoss
[20-Oct-2008 18:23:46] **jmp242> but some users just get it no matter what - per that forum topic
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:00] **jmp242> What OS are you running Zenoss on?
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:42] **|-Rkoz-|> i downloaded the Virtual Machine
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:53] **sn1ffer72> I have oids under /Devices/Server/Templates/Devices that I would like to just have under something like /Devices/Server/Linux/Templates so I can ensure a solaris box is not getting polled with oids that it cannot respond to (that creates error messages)
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:57] **|-Rkoz-|> The VM Server is running Windows 2003 Enterprise
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:08] **sn1ffer72> has anyone had to deal with that..
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:36] **jmp242> Ahh, I've seen lots of issues with the VM for some reason. I definatley had a more stable Zenoss experiance once I went to CENTOS5
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:45] **|-Rkoz-|> hmmm
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:47] **sn1ffer72> Did you give the VM enough ram
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:48] **sn1ffer72> ?
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:59] **|-Rkoz-|> i left it as default which i think is 1gb
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:04] **sn1ffer72> I had soo many issues with their default vmware appliance
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:21] **sn1ffer72> that i rebuilt my own VM with centos and installed the binaries and it works 10x better
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:41] **|-Rkoz-|> interesting
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:44] **jmp242> I'm telling you, if you're having odd issues with Zenoss, try it on CENTOS5... many many issues go away
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:53] **sn1ffer72> the vmware appliance that is downloaded able does not even come with basic commands such as yum or even "rpm"
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:09] **mrayzenoss> it's not rpm-based
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:17] **jmp242> unless you're a linux expert with your distro, you'll see other OSs (SuSE, Debian,etc) in the forums with problems a bunch
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:18] **mrayzenoss> it's rPath, which uses conary
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:18] **sn1ffer72> I know
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:26] **sn1ffer72> but I needed other rpms installed
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:59] **sn1ffer72> on top of not having yum, up2date, rpm there were many other cmds missing as well
[20-Oct-2008 18:28:28] **sn1ffer72> the reinstall only took a few mins
[20-Oct-2008 18:28:43] **sn1ffer72> just install centos.. make sure you install mysql before you run the zenoss install
[20-Oct-2008 18:28:49] **sn1ffer72> and you will be up in a few mins
[20-Oct-2008 18:29:10] **sn1ffer72> then backup the zenoss on the old box and reimport them in the new box
[20-Oct-2008 18:29:23] **|-Rkoz-|> well, i only know enough Linux to do some basic navigation...should I wait for 2.3 to come out and do a build from scratch? I'm using Ubuntu for somet other open source stuff we are running
[20-Oct-2008 18:29:46] **|-Rkoz-|> sn1ffer72: ok, that sounds easy enough...
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:16] **|-Rkoz-|> how are upgrades handled? if i get up and running with 2.2.4....how difficult will it be for a linux novice to migrate?
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:32] **|-Rkoz-|> (migrate to 2.3)
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:34] **jmp242> Upgrades in 2.2.4 was very easy compared to previously
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:47] **sn1ffer72> yeah
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:52] **jmp242> if they do the same stuff with 2.3, it'll basically be shut it off, run update, turn on
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:59] **sn1ffer72> and the 2.2.4 actually can load those EL5 zenpacks
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:03] **|-Rkoz-|> excellent
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:14] **sn1ffer72> do not try to install a EL5 zenpack in 2.2.3 as it will hose the install
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:43] **|-Rkoz-|> dumb question: what is the EL5 Zenpack?
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:46] **jmp242> However, I will say this - if you want to be able to use Zenoss, expect to spend time learning about Linux, SNMP, and Zenoss at the minimum
[20-Oct-2008 18:34:39] **mrayzenoss> We should have a new Getting Started Guide out in the next day or 2
[20-Oct-2008 18:34:58] **|-Rkoz-|> cool. I'll keep an eye out for it
[20-Oct-2008 18:35:02] **mrayzenoss> that will help you setup monitoring Linux and Windows boxes and familiarize you with the system
[20-Oct-2008 18:35:14] **malbon> hola folks
[20-Oct-2008 18:36:11] **sn1ffer72> Rkoz.. EL5 is just a newer version of zenpacks
[20-Oct-2008 18:36:25] **sn1ffer72> I smoked like 5 installs of 2.2.3 by trying to install those EL5s
[20-Oct-2008 18:36:46] **malbon> EL5 is for Enterprise Linux 5 (or Redhat EL 5)
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:03] **jmp242> I like using EL5 to refer to any of the derivitaves of RHEL5 . . .
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:12] **|-Rkoz-|> oh, ok....hopefully that getting started guide will get me up to speed...
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:21] **rhett> carpenike: interesting. neat.
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:48] **mrayzenoss> |-Rkoz-|: that's the goal, feedback is appreciated
[20-Oct-2008 18:38:07] **mrayzenoss> sn1ffer72: the EL5 ZenPack bundle?
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:02] **malbon> mrayzenoss: is there a good document on GetTableMap? I am having some difficulty with an HP Mib
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:12] **sn1ffer72> NICE.. I found out how to solve my prob above
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:36] **sn1ffer72> select Classes -> Devices -> Templates
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:48] **sn1ffer72> select "Device" and from the dropdown select copy template
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:56] **sn1ffer72> /Device/Server/Linux
[20-Oct-2008 18:42:13] **sn1ffer72> http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs_byoidtree.aspx?oid=1.3.6.1.2.1#h
[20-Oct-2008 18:42:26] **adytum-bot> Title: ipMonitor Support Portal :: Mibs (at support.ipmonitor.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:44:07] **|-Rkoz-|> will the
[20-Oct-2008 18:44:15] **|-Rkoz-|> "getting started"guide be here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[20-Oct-2008 18:44:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:15] **mrayzenoss> malbon: not that I can find
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:26] **mrayzenoss> |-Rkoz-|: yes it will be on the docs page
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:41] **malbon> mrayzenoss: no prob.
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:57] **mrayzenoss> |-Rkoz-|: I just went and asked the doc writer about it, she said it has a few tiny details that are 2.3 specific, but it will probably come out before the release
[20-Oct-2008 18:49:08] **malbon> mrayzenoss: if I haven't solved it by the next devt meeting, I'll raise it then.
[20-Oct-2008 18:50:01] **mrayzenoss> sounds good
[20-Oct-2008 18:52:42] **sn1ffer72> ok back in the saddle..
[20-Oct-2008 18:52:59] **sn1ffer72> has anyone graphed output that they produced from a nagios check command?
[20-Oct-2008 18:53:05] **sn1ffer72> I can do the fault up / down stuff
[20-Oct-2008 18:53:18] **sn1ffer72> but now I wanna graph a datapoint that was part of the response
[20-Oct-2008 18:54:46] **jmp242> Shouldnt' be that hard sn1ffer72
[20-Oct-2008 18:55:14] **jmp242> At least, I've used the output of stuff|datapoint=value
[20-Oct-2008 18:55:18] **jmp242> to graph stuff
[20-Oct-2008 18:56:09] **jmp242> so, I would think you can just use a template with the datasource named whatever and the datapoint named as above
[20-Oct-2008 18:56:33] **jmp242> When I make my own scripts I do Datasource|Datapoint=value
[20-Oct-2008 18:56:45] **jmp242> as output, but I think Nagios can be more wordy with the Datasource area
[20-Oct-2008 18:57:11] **jmp242> does that make any sense?
[20-Oct-2008 19:04:00] **sn1ffer72> ok and "stuff" is the text of the returned string?
[20-Oct-2008 19:04:55] **sn1ffer72> such as
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:16] **jmp242> well, the stuff is whatever gets put before the |
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:26] **jmp242> it seems like it can be anything from what I've read
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:29] **sn1ffer72> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 10095 bytes in 0.140 seconds |time=0.139654s;;;0.000000 size=10095B;;;0
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:48] **sn1ffer72> that was output from check_http -H www.yahoo.com
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:49] **jmp242> Right - the "stuff" before the | is ignored pretty much ... as far as I can tell
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:06] **jmp242> You'd want a datasource named whatever you like
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:19] **jmp242> and datapoints named EXACTLY what comes before the =
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:21] **sn1ffer72> ok so datacouse responsesecs
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:23] **jmp242> so time, size
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:25] **sn1ffer72> ah
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:35] **sn1ffer72> so datasource time
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:40] **jmp242> only issue I see is the ;;;
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:51] **jmp242> I've only gotten straight numbers to work
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:21] **jmp242> though I've actually never tried additional characters due to the guides implying you want numbers . . .
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:34] **jmp242> I'd give it a shot
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:42] **sn1ffer72> ok
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:45] **jmp242> Once you have the datapoints created
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:46] **sn1ffer72> give me a few mns
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:59] **jmp242> go up and define the graphs like you want, choosing your datapoint of interest
[20-Oct-2008 19:15:22] **sn1ffer72> ok I created it .. time to wait and see
[20-Oct-2008 19:15:33] **sn1ffer72> I created the datapoints called time and size
[20-Oct-2008 19:27:15] **jmp242> did you do the graph definitions?
[20-Oct-2008 19:40:27] **sn1ffer72> yeah
[20-Oct-2008 19:40:40] **sn1ffer72> gauge
[20-Oct-2008 19:44:53] **jmp242> Hope for the best then
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:06] **sn1ffer72> yeah.. I am doing it on my test bo
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:07] **sn1ffer72> x
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:14] **sn1ffer72> so it is A LOT slower
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:42] **sn1ffer72> if that works I am going to be sooo pumped up
[20-Oct-2008 19:54:36] **sn1ffer72> yes SIR
[20-Oct-2008 19:54:47] **sn1ffer72> it is gathering the data
[20-Oct-2008 19:55:18] **sn1ffer72> so for everyone else out there this is what I did
[20-Oct-2008 19:55:32] **sn1ffer72> Step 1.. go to the command line and test the following check
[20-Oct-2008 19:56:51] **sn1ffer72> f
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:03] **sn1ffer72> #check_http
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:09] **sn1ffer72> with -H
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:20] **sn1ffer72> it comes back with
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:20] **sn1ffer72> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 10095 bytes in 0.072 seconds |time=0.071971s;;;0.000000 size=10095B;;;0
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:02] **sn1ffer72> select any node
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:15] **sn1ffer72> from the drop down select More -> Templates
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:21] **sn1ffer72> Add template
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:34] **sn1ffer72> name it.. check_http_rsptime
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:36] **sn1ffer72> or whatever
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:59] **sn1ffer72> for data source give it a name.. I used check_http_rsptime again
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:12] **sn1ffer72> under the type use COMMAND
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:27] **sn1ffer72> in the command template box type in the /home/zenoss/libexec/check_http
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:33] **sn1ffer72> with the -H
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:41] **sn1ffer72> then for data points
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:52] **sn1ffer72> select "Add Datapoint"
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:59] **sn1ffer72> name "size"
[20-Oct-2008 20:00:08] **sn1ffer72> type "Gauge"
[20-Oct-2008 20:00:21] **sn1ffer72> and do the same for a datapoint called "time"
[20-Oct-2008 20:00:58] **sn1ffer72> then go back to your "select node" -> more -> templates
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:15] **sn1ffer72> click on check_http_rsptime
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:31] **sn1ffer72> on the bottom where it says "Graph Definitions"
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:38] **sn1ffer72> select "Add Graph"
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:58] **sn1ffer72> give it a name that is one of those values before the =
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:02] **sn1ffer72> like "time"
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:12] **sn1ffer72> then inside of that select Graph Points
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:19] **sn1ffer72> Add datapoint
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:38] **sn1ffer72> and select the one you created called http_resptime_time
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:51] **sn1ffer72> save and your in business
[20-Oct-2008 20:03:55] **sn1ffer72> Thanks again "jmp242"
[20-Oct-2008 20:04:40] **jmp242> np
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[21-Oct-2008 12:59:52] **jmp242> Anyone know what would cause Zenprocess to suddenly die?
[21-Oct-2008 12:59:59] **jmp242> I have in my log
[21-Oct-2008 12:59:59] **jmp242> 2008-10-21 04:22:28 INFO zen.zenprocess: There are 21 pids by the name usr_sbin_httpd
[21-Oct-2008 12:59:59] **jmp242> 2008-10-21 04:23:07 ERROR zen.zenprocess: performance scan job not finishing: 8 jobs running 0 jobs waiting 1 jobs finished
[21-Oct-2008 13:00:07] **jmp242> and now it's just doing the error...
[21-Oct-2008 13:00:39] **jmp242> looks like some jobs aren't finishing?
[21-Oct-2008 13:03:27] **jmp242> hmmm. . . a restart seems to have fixed it...
[21-Oct-2008 13:29:15] **jmp242> Hey, anyone know anything about performance monitoring/logging for ZenSyslog? It isn't actually logging anything I can see...
[21-Oct-2008 15:24:04] **yam655> Does anyone here know if there are known issues with running zenoss-plugins (via SSH) using Python 2.5 ?
[21-Oct-2008 15:25:38] **mrayzenoss> I haven't heard of any
[21-Oct-2008 15:26:13] **yam655> Excellent. I'll assume it is user-error or a configuration issue on my part, then.
[21-Oct-2008 15:28:49] **monrad> anyone integrating splunk and zenoss?
[21-Oct-2008 15:30:40] **nemo_> splunk ?
[21-Oct-2008 15:30:56] **nemo_> i guess thats a no from me
[21-Oct-2008 15:31:07] **nemo_> yam655, AFAIK you need 2.4
[21-Oct-2008 15:31:31] **jmp242> How would you integrate Splunk and Zenoss? Don't they sort of overlap?
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:00] **nemo_> Python 2.4.3 on centos5.2
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:31] **nemo_> /opt/zenoss/bin/python - thats my default python
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:39] **nemo_> i have a feeling the zenoss install made it that way
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:41] **yam655> nemo_: Really? I'm using Ubuntu 8.04. I can install Python 2.4, but it is no longer the default.
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:42] **monrad> jmp242: i am thiking about making alerts from splunk into zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:55] **mrayzenoss> nemo_: He was asking about the Zenoss-Plugins, for remote calls
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:57] **yam655> It stinks that I'll need to have two versions of Python. One for the OS, and another for Zenoss.
[21-Oct-2008 15:33:08] **monrad> so integrate is perhapse a bit much
[21-Oct-2008 15:33:43] **jmp242> Ahh I see.
[21-Oct-2008 15:34:17] **yam655> mrayzenoss: nemo_ may well be right. I asked because I found that zenplugin.py --list-platforms doesn't appear to work -- and I think that only started happening with Python 2.5.
[21-Oct-2008 15:34:45] **jmp242> Are you thinking about having splunk do (something) and then pass on to Zenoss for the dashboarding? So using free Splunk (maybe several) reporting into Zenoss Core somehow?
[21-Oct-2008 15:37:51] **monrad> jmp242: maybe just one splunk and pay for it, i dont know their prices, but we have a lot of odd syslog events from routers and such, like trying to figure which bgp up and down events correlate to each other and suchs i feel its easier to do in spunk
[21-Oct-2008 15:38:45] **yam655> Eh. Downgrading to Python 2.4 (with #!/usr/bin/python24 in zenplugin.py) didn't make --list-platforms start working. Looks like that was broken earlier. I'll see if it is filed.
[21-Oct-2008 15:39:22] **kgoedtel> I want to make a custom python script in zenoss that I can output event data so that another system can retrieve the info. I can find information for dumping device data but haven't had any luck getting the event stuff out. Anyone familiar?
[21-Oct-2008 15:40:58] **yam655> kgoedtel: Isn't the event data stored in the MySQL database? The name of the database is "zenoss_events". I've not played with it, but I would probably start looking there.
[21-Oct-2008 15:41:25] **kgoedtel> yeah i know i could just get it from the mysql database, but i didnt really want to do it that way :[
[21-Oct-2008 15:41:46] **jmp242> Hmmm, I wonder what the peak daily volume of raw uncompressed data indexed is, or how to figure that out prior to purchasing anything
[21-Oct-2008 15:47:54] **monrad> jmp242: i think its how many megabytes you throw at it
[21-Oct-2008 15:48:09] **monrad> so its easy to figure out for syslog
[21-Oct-2008 15:50:40] **jmp242> oh?
[21-Oct-2008 15:50:51] **jmp242> Any idea what the average is?
[21-Oct-2008 16:08:46] **yam655> I really wish Zenoss conformed to the FSSTND.
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:03] **jmp242> hmm?
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:18] **jmp242> Zenoss installs in /opt/zenoss for me on CENTOS5.2 w/ RPM
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:26] **jmp242> isn't that appropriate for the FSSTND?
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:36] **yam655> jmp242: Yeah, and /opt/zenoss should be the path everywhere.
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:43] **yam655> Its default path is /usr/local/zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:52] **jmp242> I didn't understand that change
[21-Oct-2008 16:14:10] **jmp242> it's been /opt/zenoss in RPM for a long time IIRC, at least since 1.1.1 ...
[21-Oct-2008 16:14:10] **yam655> jmp242: /usr/local should mirror /usr
[21-Oct-2008 16:14:39] **jmp242> maybe mrayzenoss can find out why they changed from /opt/zenoss for the stack installer
[21-Oct-2008 16:18:22] **mrayzenoss> sorry, I was away.
[21-Oct-2008 16:18:41] **yam655> I figured the /usr/local/zenoss path came from a BSD-ism that the Apache and MySQL people picked up for their defaults.
[21-Oct-2008 16:18:42] **mrayzenoss> /opt/zenoss is how BitRock does their stuff, since the installer is for Linux/OSX/Solaris
[21-Oct-2008 16:19:01] **mrayzenoss> errr... the other way
[21-Oct-2008 16:19:06] **mrayzenoss> /usr/local/zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 16:19:34] **jmp242> Hmm, so OSX and Solaris don't do /opt ??
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:00] **mrayzenoss> my OSX box doesn't
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:04] **jmp242> Ahh
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:10] **jmp242> That makes some sense then
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:11] **yam655> mrayzenoss: It is also why I had to roll my own /debian package logic. I see /usr/local/zenoss and my stomach churns.
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:26] **mrayzenoss> and of course we're always trying to fix issues based on assumed paths
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:27] **yam655> mrayzenoss: The Debian/Ubuntu folks won't let it be a standard package until it gets fixed.
[21-Oct-2008 16:21:07] **mrayzenoss> yam655: I actually started up a conversation with Ubuntu last week. Met with them at Ohio LinuxFest
[21-Oct-2008 16:21:24] **mrayzenoss> it'll take awhile, but we're hoping to get something eventually for Hardy
[21-Oct-2008 16:21:54] **yam655> Excellent. I first heard about Zenoss at the Ohio Linuxfest in 2007.
[21-Oct-2008 16:22:21] **mrayzenoss> where you there 2 weeks ago?
[21-Oct-2008 16:22:42] **yam655> mrayzenoss: No. Not this year. I've got a wee little baby now.
[21-Oct-2008 16:23:05] **yam655> The little girl arrived three months early, so I'm missing a number of things to stay near the hospital.
[21-Oct-2008 16:23:31] **mrayzenoss> sorry to hear that, that's definitely more important
[21-Oct-2008 16:24:12] **jmp242> Is there a bug report on the zensyslog performance issue where it can fall behind on lots of syslog entries?
[21-Oct-2008 16:24:29] **yam655> mrayzenoss: But my job likes to send me to conferences and things, so I'll probably catch you at one in 2009 or so.
[21-Oct-2008 16:24:41] **mrayzenoss> I'll be at LISA next month
[21-Oct-2008 16:25:01] **mrayzenoss> working on a Deki/Zenoss mashup to demo with them
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:00] **yam655> mrayzenoss: It sounds fun. LISA is a conference I want to attend at some point. My baby isn't expected out of the hospital until December/January -- and that's if things go smoothly. (As they have so far.)
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:21] **mrayzenoss> jmp242: I don't see any syslog tickets specific to performance. If you have anything concrete you can put in a ticket like errors in logs that might help get some attention
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:38] **jmp242> Well, just something like in this post:
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:38] **jmp242> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7757&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=syslog
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:40] **mrayzenoss> yam655: Good luck.
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:52] **jmp242> I didn't have problems initially
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:55] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Syslog delay of writing events (at forums.zenoss.com)
[21-Oct-2008 16:28:15] **jmp242> but now with 30 access points, I'm seeing some events on the webinterface to the access point that aren't showing up in a timely manner as events in Zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 16:29:48] **jmp242> I'll try and get a ticket with specifics in after lunch
[21-Oct-2008 16:30:00] **mrayzenoss> jmp242: I see a couple of syslog tickets for 2.3, but the cut-off is getting close
[21-Oct-2008 16:31:23] **jmp242> I'll get something in and see if it can make 3.1 or something
[21-Oct-2008 16:31:27] **jmp242> err
[21-Oct-2008 16:31:28] **jmp242> 2.3.1
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:01] **jmp242> I mean, getting a bug in is the first step . . .
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:11] **mrayzenoss> open it against 2.3, we'll review it in the weekly bug review
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:33] **mrayzenoss> it'll probably get assigned to 2.4, but possibly back-ported to 2.3
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:37] **mrayzenoss> depending on the fix
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:52] **mrayzenoss> how much traffic are we talking about?
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:18] **jmp242> Well, for me it's not that high I don't think (part of my problem is figuring how much traffic this actually is)
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:28] **jmp242> I have 30 access points
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:43] **jmp242> which each send in client connect, disconnect and roam syslog, and SNMP traps
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:53] **jmp242> the traps seem to work as expected
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:10] **jmp242> syslog seems delayed, I don't know how much (a coworker saw this)
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:12] **rhett> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chickenhead
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:16] **rhett> damnit
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:26] **adytum-bot> Title: Urban Dictionary: chickenhead (at www.urbandictionary.com)
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:28] **rhett> second time that was supposed to go to efnet
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:35] **rhett> sorry
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:59] **jmp242> I guess they are sending on average a few a minute . . .
[21-Oct-2008 16:38:07] **mrayzenoss> that doesn't sound like it should be slow
[21-Oct-2008 16:39:16] **jmp242> Did you see that thread with heavier load in the forums?
[21-Oct-2008 16:40:07] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I'll try to get someone familiar with the syslog stuff to check it out
[21-Oct-2008 16:40:42] **jmp242> cool. I'll try and get more detailed info once my coworker gets back from lunch so we can play with it a little on our setup
[21-Oct-2008 16:54:17] **mrayzenoss> Chet says it's a mysql tuning issue
[21-Oct-2008 16:54:43] **mrayzenoss> I'll try to get a response on the thread about it
[21-Oct-2008 16:55:15] **mrayzenoss> he suggested http://wiki.mysqltuner.com/MySQLTuner
[21-Oct-2008 16:55:23] **adytum-bot> Title: MySQLTuner - MySQLTuner (at wiki.mysqltuner.com)
[21-Oct-2008 17:03:59] **jmp242> Chet - always good for the technical info!
[21-Oct-2008 17:33:39] **rhett> last week some one posted a link to the forums on how to create disk io graphs. does any one recall the url?
[21-Oct-2008 17:44:51] **jeld> hello all, how do I reset user's password from command line?
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:18] **sn1ffer72> Looks like you may be able to check disk i/o from one of these nagios checks
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:18] **sn1ffer72> https://trac.id.ethz.ch/projects/nagios_plugins
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:24] **adytum-bot> Title: nagios_plugins - Trac (at trac.id.ethz.ch)
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:58] **jmp242> disk IO for Linux or Windows ?
[21-Oct-2008 17:51:47] **jmp242> I know I was able to do some template creation
[21-Oct-2008 17:51:58] **jmp242> and enable UCDHardDisk map for Linux . . .
[21-Oct-2008 17:52:01] **jmp242> and get graphs
[21-Oct-2008 17:52:05] **jmp242> under OS tab though
[21-Oct-2008 17:53:19] **jmp242> hmmm, no I've got it for Windows too, possibly via the WMI zenpack?
[21-Oct-2008 17:53:30] **jmp242> it's not the same template or graphs as under Linux . . .
[21-Oct-2008 17:53:35] **jmp242> but is an IO graph
[21-Oct-2008 17:54:38] **rhett> wtf
[21-Oct-2008 17:54:56] **rhett> i cant walk it
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:13] **therealnemo> are you even using ucd ?
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:20] **therealnemo> most rh distros use net-snmp
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:26] **rhett> yeah
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:45] **rhett> im trying to back track. i had this stuff going fine on friday last week
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:59] **rhett> i had it worked on a test box in cacti
[21-Oct-2008 17:56:10] **rhett> snmpd is going
[21-Oct-2008 17:56:26] **rhett> im not sure, i will have to play more after lunch.
[21-Oct-2008 18:46:48] **sn1ffer72> does anyone know if there is a zenoss variable for index?
[21-Oct-2008 18:47:01] **sn1ffer72> snmp indexid
[21-Oct-2008 18:48:20] **sn1ffer72> kinda like ${device/id}
[21-Oct-2008 18:49:27] **sn1ffer72> I am trying to graph each CPU core
[21-Oct-2008 18:49:51] **sn1ffer72> oid 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2.
[21-Oct-2008 18:50:00] **sn1ffer72> hrProcessorLoad
[21-Oct-2008 18:50:28] **sn1ffer72> I can do each one statically per server, but that will not be fun for 500+ servers
[21-Oct-2008 18:53:31] **jmp242> Can you script it somehow? I think there isn't an indexid as there were posts about indexed values . . . on the forums . . .
[21-Oct-2008 18:54:25] **sn1ffer72> prob is even if I make a check command and take in the var of the cpu index
[21-Oct-2008 18:54:33] **sn1ffer72> I still will not be able to take in the cpu index
[21-Oct-2008 18:55:07] **sn1ffer72> ah.. unless I script walking the cpu and create a separate cpu1=;cpu2=
[21-Oct-2008 18:55:10] **sn1ffer72> good point
[21-Oct-2008 18:56:28] **sn1ffer72> still going to be hard then then I will have to setup a static template with datapoints for the max # cores that I will be taking the vars back from that check script
[21-Oct-2008 18:57:09] **jmp242> Hmmm... I think maybe an enhancement ticket/request?
[21-Oct-2008 19:21:59] **yam655> Shoot. Somehow upgrading from 2.2.0 to 2.2.4 has broken the AJAX menus on most of the pages. I'm hoping it is just the Apache-based proxy that is broken.
[21-Oct-2008 19:22:45] **sn1ffer72> ok.. I finished that code.. let me see if I can paste it in here. It's 15 lines
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> $host = $ARGV[0];
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> $community = $ARGV[1];
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> @ids = `snmpwalk -On -v 2c -c $community $host 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2`;
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> foreach $i (@ids) {
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **adytum-bot> sn1ffer72: Error: 'ids' is not a valid command.
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:02] **sn1ffer72> if($i =~/1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2.(\d+)/) {
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:04] **sn1ffer72> $cpuid = $1;
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:06] **sn1ffer72> }
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:08] **sn1ffer72> if($i =~/:\s+(.*)/) {
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:10] **sn1ffer72> $cpuid_val = $1
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:12] **sn1ffer72> }
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:14] **sn1ffer72> push(@output, "cpu$cpuid\=$cpuid_val");
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:16] **sn1ffer72> }
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:18] **sn1ffer72> print "CPU Usage|@output";
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:34] **sn1ffer72> check_cpu_util
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:40] **sn1ffer72> or whatever you wanna call it
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:57] **sn1ffer72> put it in your /usr/local/zenoss/common/libexec
[21-Oct-2008 19:24:54] **jmp242> yam655: try clearing your cache in your browser
[21-Oct-2008 19:26:47] **jmp242> sn1ffer72: HMMM
[21-Oct-2008 19:26:55] **jmp242> they have really changed the dir structure
[21-Oct-2008 19:27:00] **jmp242> I have /opt/zenoss/libexe
[21-Oct-2008 19:27:12] **yam655> jmp242: Sweet. That fixed it. Thanks.
[21-Oct-2008 19:28:02] **jmp242> sn1ffer72: maybe you might post that to the zenoss wiki, or even create a zenpack?
[21-Oct-2008 19:30:40] **sn1ffer72> Nice.. I figured out how to use that wiki
[21-Oct-2008 19:30:56] **sn1ffer72> let me test this as far as charting .. if it works I will post it
[21-Oct-2008 19:31:12] **jmp242> great!
[21-Oct-2008 21:37:58] **psantos> hello everyone
[21-Oct-2008 21:38:15] **psantos> I'm running into a rather strange issue with zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:38:32] **psantos> currently doing an eval of the enterprise version on Centos 5.2
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:00] **psantos> until yesterday, everything was fine, but then the OS froze up, with the last message on the console being a python error message
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:12] **psantos> after reboot, everything comes up fine, including zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:18] **psantos> however, I can't access the web interface
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:39] **psantos> all the zenoss processes seem to be running fine, and I can't find any errors in the error log
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:55] **psantos> yet, the web interface is not up
[21-Oct-2008 21:40:28] **psantos> after doing some google searches, it seems the response to similar issues from others in the past has been to 'reinstall zenoss'
[21-Oct-2008 21:40:51] **therealnemo> is your mysql running
[21-Oct-2008 21:40:55] **psantos> yes, it is
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:06] **psantos> I can connect to it and see the events database fine
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:11] **therealnemo> ok
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:22] **psantos> iptables is not running, btw, so it's not an issue of connections being blocked
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:26] **therealnemo> have you been restarting zenoss as root user ?
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:36] **psantos> yes
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:47] **therealnemo> i think thats where you gone wrong
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:53] **psantos> using /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:59] **therealnemo> always use zenoss ( su - zenoss )
[21-Oct-2008 21:42:18] **therealnemo> sometimes stuff gets messed up working as root ( not in the normal unix lesson way )
[21-Oct-2008 21:42:28] **therealnemo> i root everywhere, but i su - zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:42:39] **therealnemo> otherwise you will break it sooner or later
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:27] **psantos> the zenoss script in /etc/init.d exports RUNUSER to be zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:38] **therealnemo> probably a file owned by root or so thats stopping you starting
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:48] **psantos> so even though I may start it as root, the processes should be started as zenoss user
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:51] **therealnemo> i suggest also running JUST the init script wont break it
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:56] **psantos> and note, everything starts fine
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:04] **psantos> there are no error messages anywhere
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:08] **psantos> that's what's puzzling me
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:13] **therealnemo> we dont use the init script
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:22] **therealnemo> we su zenoss and do: zenoss restart
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:33] **psantos> you use the free or commercial version?
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:40] **therealnemo> your zope probably isnt starting
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:53] **therealnemo> i do but core is the same software
[21-Oct-2008 21:46:06] **therealnemo> ent is only extra functionalities
[21-Oct-2008 21:46:42] **therealnemo> did you check your logs btw ?
[21-Oct-2008 21:47:17] **psantos> yah
[21-Oct-2008 21:47:27] **psantos> you seem to be right about zope not starting
[21-Oct-2008 21:47:54] **therealnemo> i guess i know a little about these things
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:13] **psantos> http://pastebin.com/d379b0a56
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:14] **therealnemo> i broke zenoss many times
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:21] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:30] **psantos> zope seems to die silently
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:36] **therealnemo> do a status
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:08] **psantos> shows it as not running
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:11] **psantos> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:38] **therealnemo> ok find those root owned files if they exist
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:43] **psantos> yep
[21-Oct-2008 21:50:07] **therealnemo> repair that, su - zenoss, use zenoss restart and you will have less pain
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:02] **psantos> you know, it's strange though, because nothing has been changed on the machine
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:37] **psantos> we've restarted the daemons several times both via the web interface and command line in the past
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:44] **therealnemo> well i doubt its an x-file
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:44] **psantos> and this is the first time this happened
[21-Oct-2008 21:52:01] **psantos> well yah, no little green men here, I'm sure of it
[21-Oct-2008 21:52:08] **therealnemo> its messing with things as root for sure
[21-Oct-2008 21:53:00] **therealnemo> restarting something as root ( like zope or zeo , zensnperf etc ) will mangle things next time zenoss starts
[21-Oct-2008 21:54:01] **therealnemo> i totally agree the init script is a different matter, i just consider it a bad practice where zenoss is concerned, i like to see zenoss@ in my shell before i work on it
[21-Oct-2008 21:54:48] **psantos> understood
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:19] **psantos> therealnemo: I found out what the problem was
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:32] **psantos> it looks like the persistent cache was bad
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:40] **psantos> (probably caused by the crash)
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:58] **psantos> removing $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec fixed it
[21-Oct-2008 22:19:06] **psantos> thanks for the help
[21-Oct-2008 22:26:23] **explody> is there a way to force a check like the snmp agent check?
[21-Oct-2008 22:26:55] **therealnemo> psantos, ah kool. good stuff
[21-Oct-2008 22:27:35] **explody> and, does zenoss support the windows native snmpd out of the box?
[21-Oct-2008 22:53:08] **explody> ah, informant, ok
[21-Oct-2008 22:59:16] **magnachef> I think for the force check you need to create a command for it
[21-Oct-2008 23:10:14] **explody> wow some simple functions are surprisingly not simple or obvious
[21-Oct-2008 23:11:23] **magnachef> gotta know the reserved variables
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[22-Oct-2008 13:42:29] **tkrabec> Morning all
[22-Oct-2008 13:42:38] **nemo_> morno
[22-Oct-2008 13:43:35] **tkrabec> just stopping in, tring to get a feel for zenoss
[22-Oct-2008 15:07:34] **daMaestro> anyone using kerberos to auth users?
[22-Oct-2008 15:50:18] **cti-user> hey jimbob, have you ever installed 2.2.4?
[22-Oct-2008 15:50:30] **JimbobMcGrail> looks like I'm going to be pushing that one soon!
[22-Oct-2008 15:50:42] **cti-user> i haven't got it to install yet
[22-Oct-2008 15:51:01] **JimbobMcGrail> you don't wanna...not our way
[22-Oct-2008 15:56:25] **sn1ffer72> I have 2.2.4 installed
[22-Oct-2008 15:57:42] **tkrabec> would there be a reason to choose zenoss over ossim or do the do similar but different functions?
[22-Oct-2008 16:00:43] **sn1ffer72> sure.. you in the zenoss IRC channel
[22-Oct-2008 16:02:05] **sn1ffer72> it's better looking too
[22-Oct-2008 16:02:28] **nemo_> nothing like a decision made on technical criteria
[22-Oct-2008 16:03:10] **tkrabec> good answers, I'm glad it there was not a "religous" argument
[22-Oct-2008 16:03:22] **nemo_> lol
[22-Oct-2008 16:04:41] **tkrabec> I do tend to choose base on requirements, but I was just checking to see if there was anything outstanding separating the two, or if they preform differnt functions, as I;ve heard good things about both
[22-Oct-2008 16:08:37] **cti-user> sn1ffer72, did you install on centos5?
[22-Oct-2008 16:08:43] **JimbobMcGrail> isn't there a way, not from the web-gui, to do like a massive scan of nodes (IOS devices in particular), and import them?
[22-Oct-2008 16:08:58] **JimbobMcGrail> I can't remember...
[22-Oct-2008 16:12:42] **jmp242> discover devices?
[22-Oct-2008 16:13:31] **alougee> ello all
[22-Oct-2008 16:13:51] **JimbobMcGrail> yeah discover
[22-Oct-2008 16:14:09] **alougee> got a quick question....
[22-Oct-2008 16:14:42] **alougee> I want to be able to show a graph from zenoss in a page I am setting up with joomla...I want the graph to be dynamically updated
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:02] **alougee> anyone have any ideas about the authentication process to grab that graph and display it on an external site?
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:04] **sn1ffer72> cti-user.. yes centos5
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:16] **sn1ffer72> on a vmware vm that I created
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:22] **sn1ffer72> not the vmware appliance
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:30] **sn1ffer72> that appliance sucks
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:58] **sn1ffer72> JimBob.. you can import the devices in bulk
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:11] **cti-user> ohh cool. My install would hang importing objects into zeo database
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:33] **sn1ffer72> zenbatchload
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:40] **sn1ffer72> the file format should look like this
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:40] **JimbobMcGrail> $zenhome/bin but which command/options?
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:44] **sn1ffer72> /Devices/Windows
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:45] **sn1ffer72> host1
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:47] **sn1ffer72> host2
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:56] **sn1ffer72> /Devices/Server/Solaris
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:57] **sn1ffer72> host3
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:59] **sn1ffer72> host4
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:03] **JimbobMcGrail> I got it
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:08] **sn1ffer72> k
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:08] **JimbobMcGrail> whatever is after dmd in the url
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:14] **sn1ffer72> roger
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:20] **sn1ffer72> back in a bit
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:22] **JimbobMcGrail> now...mm
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:22] **JimbobMcGrail> wait
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:27] **JimbobMcGrail> which python script is it?
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:49] **JimbobMcGrail> zenbatchload I got it
[22-Oct-2008 16:23:39] **alougee> does anyone display perf graphs on external sites?
[22-Oct-2008 16:40:17] **alougee> anyone maybe?
[22-Oct-2008 16:48:53] **jmp242> alougee: no, because you have to authenticate with Zenoss I believe - you might look at the simple dashboard wiki entry... don't know if that could help.
[22-Oct-2008 16:49:27] **alougee> correct you have to authenticate...so there should be a way to pass the authentication
[22-Oct-2008 16:58:25] **justizin> alougee: sure, read up on zope, security is very modular and ui-configurable. i've been thinking of exposing zenoss data in a plone site..
[22-Oct-2008 16:58:59] **alougee> thank you
[22-Oct-2008 16:59:30] **justizin> everything in Zenoss UI, afaict, relies pretty heavily on CMF, the Content Management Framework, which has declarative, object-level security.
[22-Oct-2008 17:07:43] **justizin> i'd be glad to collab on a solution or ZenPack for some kind of public access to data.
[22-Oct-2008 17:08:26] **jmp242> I'd be interested in what you work out...
[22-Oct-2008 17:29:59] **alougee> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/HowToSetupAZenossKioskOrOverviewMonitor/
[22-Oct-2008 17:30:04] **alougee> this does work out for my needs
[22-Oct-2008 17:30:16] **adytum-bot> Title: How to setup a Zenoss Kiosk or overview monitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Oct-2008 18:31:10] **ke4qqq> hey guys - having an interesting issue - looking at the rrd graphs there are 15 minute swaths of datamissing repeatedly followed by 30 minutes of data when the cycle repeats
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:07] **therealnemo> check the forums, its pretty well reported. not that interesting
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:23] **ke4qqq> ok - thanks therealnemo
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:33] **therealnemo> but there are quite a few reasons why too, so forums is best place
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:36] **therealnemo> nps
[22-Oct-2008 18:53:32] **kneer0w> does anyone here know Mark Hinkles' email address?
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[22-Oct-2008 19:04:24] **kneer0w> o_O
[22-Oct-2008 19:08:15] **crashdummyMCH> hi all. has anyone else had problems updating/saving Reports in zenoss 2.2.4?
[22-Oct-2008 19:36:09] **yam655> Where can I find the documentation on which daemon does which task? I need to do some troubleshooting, and I'm not sure where to start.
[22-Oct-2008 19:39:19] **jmp242> Dev Guide perhaps?
[22-Oct-2008 19:39:39] **jmp242> The daemons seem to be named pretty selfexplanatorily.
[22-Oct-2008 19:41:11] **yam655> jmp242: More-or-less self-explanatory, with some exceptions. I appear to have a problem with ./Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/cmd/linux/netstat_an.py I've no idea which one it is.
[22-Oct-2008 19:41:59] **jmp242> cmd ... probably ZenCommand or ZenActions?
[22-Oct-2008 19:42:08] **jmp242> I'm not really sure
[22-Oct-2008 19:42:53] **yam655> zencommand runs the zenplugins.py stuff, ignoring the DataCollector stuff.
[22-Oct-2008 19:43:46] **jmp242> Hmm, If it's collectors, it's usually zenperfsnmp or zenmodeler
[22-Oct-2008 19:43:58] **jmp242> depending on if it's doing a modeling or a performance collector
[22-Oct-2008 19:44:20] **jmp242> You might post to Zenoss-Dev
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:02] **jmp242> The only thing I've read about the daemons is in the adming guide, avoiding the dev guide for now
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:03] **jmp242> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/ch02s04.html
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:15] **jmp242> But it doesn't tell you what the back end is for those functions
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:21] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Oct-2008 19:46:59] **yam655> Okay. zenmodeler runs the commands. Now I just have no idea why it isn't recognizing the ports as being live. It is getting the right output. :/
[22-Oct-2008 19:53:12] **yam655> This is crappy. It sees the port when I don't tell it to monitor it. When I tell it to monitor it it fails. It works with another device.
[22-Oct-2008 19:57:01] **yam655> Okay. Now I just don't know how it works. I found the problem.
[22-Oct-2008 19:57:36] **yam655> I even fixed it. My firewall on that host was blocking the ports in question. I really thought it just checked the netstat output.
[22-Oct-2008 20:01:36] **yam655> Well... I thought that fixed it... arg.
[22-Oct-2008 20:07:50] **yam655> Yup. That was it after all. Huh. I'm not having it portscanned. I wasn't expecting that behavior.
[22-Oct-2008 20:08:40] **yam655> It is nice, mind you. Very effective. It just wasn't clear it was checking it that way.
[22-Oct-2008 21:50:36] **EricL> I am trying to convert my Nagios 3 setpu over to Zenoss. I see hints of a conversion utility but can't seem to find it.
[22-Oct-2008 21:51:35] **EricL> Thoughts?
[22-Oct-2008 21:56:13] **krphop> we just rebuilt ours, its probably easier, lol
[22-Oct-2008 21:56:55] **EricL> krphop: How many devices/services are you monitoring?
[22-Oct-2008 21:57:46] **krphop> over 250 devices
[22-Oct-2008 21:58:24] **krphop> @1 minute polling
[22-Oct-2008 21:58:24] **adytum-bot> krphop: Error: '1' is not a valid command.
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[23-Oct-2008 00:43:57] **justizin> anybody have zenoss wired up with frysk ?
[23-Oct-2008 00:44:11] **justizin> i find that process-level data i pull from snmpd is relatively worthless
[23-Oct-2008 00:44:42] **justizin> it alerts restarts of things that, afaik, aren't restarting, and its' resource usage knowledge is only as of polling intervals..
[23-Oct-2008 00:44:54] **justizin> frysk seems ideal for something that needs to be highly perf monitored.
[23-Oct-2008 00:45:19] **justizin> written in java, but can surely talk xml or whatever.
[23-Oct-2008 00:45:25] **justizin> maybe could power an snmp service.
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[23-Oct-2008 02:38:08] **asciii> hi..
[23-Oct-2008 02:38:14] **asciii> a quick question..
[23-Oct-2008 02:38:38] **rhettt> hi
[23-Oct-2008 02:38:59] **asciii> can zenoss do application monitoring? for example..a the duration ms word is used in a machine..
[23-Oct-2008 02:42:50] **asciii> anyone?
[23-Oct-2008 03:17:40] **rhettt> i dont know. im an amateur
[23-Oct-2008 03:24:41] **asciii> hrm..
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[23-Oct-2008 14:56:53] **kells> Hey Matt!
[23-Oct-2008 14:58:34] **mrayzenoss> Good morning Americas, good afternoon/evening everyone else
[23-Oct-2008 14:59:26] **kells> G'day, g'day
[23-Oct-2008 15:04:53] **kells> おはいよう　ございます
[23-Oct-2008 15:05:17] **spike_cb> hi is this the zenoss chat ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:05:22] **kells> Yep
[23-Oct-2008 15:05:42] **kells> Got a question, comment?
[23-Oct-2008 15:06:34] **spike_cb> yeah, we've been using Zenoss for about 3 months now. Its great but it has its quirks
[23-Oct-2008 15:06:36] **nemo_> d.setGroups(pgroup)
[23-Oct-2008 15:07:00] **nemo_> should that be d.setGroups("/Groups/Something/Something")
[23-Oct-2008 15:07:05] **nemo_> or another format
[23-Oct-2008 15:07:48] **kells> Thanks for the kind words
[23-Oct-2008 15:08:26] **kells> nemo: Could you provide a little more context? I'm not quite following you....
[23-Oct-2008 15:08:32] **spike_cb> We're running the Enterprise version 2.2.1
[23-Oct-2008 15:08:38] **kells> Nice!
[23-Oct-2008 15:09:47] **nemo_> kells, question is aimed at those who understand, no real point in explaining
[23-Oct-2008 15:09:52] **nemo_> i read all the docs, did you ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:10:02] **spike_cb> kells: we've got the problem with /perf/snmp going to some windows servers and complaining that F:\ or Y:\ drive is not mounted, which is kind of annoying
[23-Oct-2008 15:10:43] **kells> nemo: I try to read the code, not the docs
[23-Oct-2008 15:11:55] **kells> spike: This is using the Snmp Informant approach, I take it?
[23-Oct-2008 15:13:43] **spike_cb> kells: yes
[23-Oct-2008 15:14:43] **spike_cb> kells: is there any way to quickly disable that kind of drive check ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:15:01] **kells> If you go to the device's OS tab...
[23-Oct-2008 15:15:05] **kells> (going there now)
[23-Oct-2008 15:16:12] **spike_cb> kells: you mean deleting them off "File systems" ? they'll just pop right back in
[23-Oct-2008 15:16:29] **kells> Nope, there should be another option that you can set to ignore them
[23-Oct-2008 15:16:49] **kells> I can't find a windows box in the lab that I've got modeled so I'll just try another server
[23-Oct-2008 15:17:27] **spike_cb> hey mccools, its me
[23-Oct-2008 15:18:12] **kells> Find the FileSystem under the FileSystems table , click on teh drive, and then click on teh 'Monitor' checkbox
[23-Oct-2008 15:18:21] **kells> That should stop it from generating events
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:01] **spike_cb> kells: there's no checkbox for monitor for filesystems .. but if you do click on any drive, you'll get the drive properties and there's the "monitor" option with "true|false"
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:22] **spike_cb> kells: is that what you're referring to ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:26] **kells> Yes
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:30] **cluther> spike_cb: You could check out the zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames property. It is a regex that will cause any file systems that match it to not be modeled.
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:13] **kells> That's a much better way
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:20] **mrayzenoss> By my count there are at least 7 Zenoss folks in the channel, so we can probably cover most questions.
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:46] **mrayzenoss> I'm working on pushing out a new community beta, finally with stack installers
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:53] **spike_cb> cluther: yes thanks. I remember I put /F:/ or something there before but it didn't do anything
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:09] **cluther> spike_cb: Leave off the //s
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:24] **cluther> spike_cb: And remember to remodel the device after you change that property.
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:36] **spike_cb> cluther" ic, so its just the string to match then
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:39] **kells> nemo: It appears that it does take a list of group names
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:04] **cluther> spike_cb: It is a regular expression. You've been using Perl too long if you think regular expressions are always surrounded with forward slashes.
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:20] **spike_cb> cluther: oh remodel ? I haven't done that one before
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:35] **kells> ... or sed, vi....
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:55] **spike_cb> cluther: hehe yes, im a "use strict" type
[23-Oct-2008 15:25:12] **kells> [fFyY]: should do the trick, then, right?
[23-Oct-2008 15:26:19] **spike_cb> cluther: how do you remodel after changing the zProperties config ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:26:41] **cluther> spike_cb: Menu -> Manage -> Model Devce
[23-Oct-2008 15:27:55] **kells> The remodelling also occurs automatically every xx hours
[23-Oct-2008 15:28:20] **kells> 12?
[23-Oct-2008 15:28:37] **mccools> Hi all. First, thanks for hosting this!
[23-Oct-2008 15:28:51] **mccools> Second, I'm wondering about best practices for monitoring a hot/cold cluster. We have a lot of instances where we use ha.d to float a virtual IP and services between two physical machines. We have modeled this as a device for the "master service" and then two devices for the physical hardware itself, but we keep running into issues where attributes of the clustered service get associated with one of the physical machines only...
[23-Oct-2008 15:29:05] **spike_cb> cluther: ah~ ic .. so do you have to remodel a device everytime you change the zProperties ? or everytime you change anything
[23-Oct-2008 15:30:01] **kells> mccools: Is using the 'lock' on those attributes not working for you?
[23-Oct-2008 15:30:17] **mccools> Doesn't seem to, particularly lockings osprocesses
[23-Oct-2008 15:32:07] **mccools> kells: honestly it just seems inconsistent, it'll lock and work for awhile then weeks later we'll notice stuff is pinned directly on the device again. Possible we're remodeling and not relocking or something?
[23-Oct-2008 15:33:45] **kells> Is this after the migration from one node to another that you notice, or even if nothing is done to the service?
[23-Oct-2008 15:34:05] **kells> IIRC, you shouldn't need to re-lock
[23-Oct-2008 15:35:14] **mccools> kells: After migration is the only time we've noticed
[23-Oct-2008 15:36:09] **kells> So when you lock the service, it's on one of the physical nodes, right? Or does your virtual IP show up as a separate device in teh device list?
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[23-Oct-2008 15:37:03] **mccools> kells: The VIP is a seperate device, and we try to fully model that one with the 'cluster' resources. The physical machines are also their own device entries and we strip away cluster resources from the active one (since they're on the vip)
[23-Oct-2008 15:39:25] **kells> Do you have other os processes on the physical machines too? Chet's suggesting removing the HRSWRunMap from the list of collector plugins on the physicals
[23-Oct-2008 15:40:29] **mccools> kells: Nope, only ones we care about are the ones on the VIP. We're only really concerned with performance/services of the VIP, and the fact that the non-active physical machine is up, so that might work
[23-Oct-2008 15:45:27] **mccools> kells: I'll try to get something I can reproduce and then play around with removing that collector, thanks
[23-Oct-2008 15:45:48] **mccools> Are you guys going to be at LISA again this year?
[23-Oct-2008 15:45:54] **mrayzenoss> Yes
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:08] **mrayzenoss> I'll be there with npmccallum and 1 other Zenossian
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:32] **npmccallum> mrayzenoss: maybe
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:33] **mrayzenoss> I'll blog about it about a week before LISA
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:38] **nemo_> mrayzenoss, where can i find documentation on setGroups() function ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:58] **mccools> Great, well maybe I'll see you there; enjoyed the vendor bof last year (and you got an enterprise sale out of it)
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:16] **mrayzenoss> nemo_: not much in the API docs, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.2/ZenModel.Device.Device-class.html#setGroups
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:30] **adytum-bot> Title: ZenModel.Device.Device (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:31] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.2/identifier-index-S.html
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:47] **adytum-bot> Title: Identifier Index (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:49] **mrayzenoss> oh quick heads up for everyone in the channel, search.zenoss.com is going live soon
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:56] **cgibbons> oooh
[23-Oct-2008 15:49:28] **mrayzenoss> it's publicly available, haven't hyped it yet. We got ourselves a google appliance for searching everything
[23-Oct-2008 15:52:36] **nemo_> mrayzenoss, should that be d.setGroups("/Groups/Something/Something")
[23-Oct-2008 15:52:50] **nemo_> its really not obvious at all.
[23-Oct-2008 15:53:00] **nemo_> i even grepped the code to find it
[23-Oct-2008 15:53:31] **cluther> nemo_: That's it.
[23-Oct-2008 15:55:27] **cluther> nemo_: oops.. it isn't it. d.setGroups("/Something/Something")
[23-Oct-2008 15:55:27] **cluther> nemo_: Leave off the leading /Groups
[23-Oct-2008 15:55:52] **nemo_> its d.setGroups() in my for loop
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:04] **nemo_> so what i have to do , send a ticket ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:18] **nemo_> i got a bunch of ppl wanting to set locations from a script
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:38] **nemo_> with or without /groups on the front it didnt work for me in a script
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:43] **nemo_> but worked fine in zendmd
[23-Oct-2008 15:57:20] **spike_cb> a general question guys, is it a good practice to do clear heartbeat, push changes and remodel to make sure that the change you put in take effect ?
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:29] **kells> The remodel should be necessary and sufficient
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:36] **kneer0w> oof.
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:37] **kneer0w> split -_-
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:50] **kells> Chet's mentioning that the 'push changes' shouldn't be necessary
[23-Oct-2008 16:02:28] **spike_cb> kells: ic thanks!
[23-Oct-2008 16:07:44] **mrayzenoss> Any quick questions, before a couple of us duck out?
[23-Oct-2008 16:08:24] **kells> I'm told that 'push changes' shouldn't generally be necessary except in a few cases:
[23-Oct-2008 16:08:35] **kells> * changes to relations
[23-Oct-2008 16:08:48] **kells> * deleting anything except a device
[23-Oct-2008 16:09:08] **kells> * possibly for support
[23-Oct-2008 16:09:46] **kells> ie support finds something strange that is not updating properly, and as a short term fix asks you to push changes
[23-Oct-2008 16:14:46] **mrayzenoss> Thanks again to everyone who showed up, we'll have the log up soon and we'll be back officially in 2 weeks, but Zenossians drop in from time to time.
[23-Oct-2008 16:30:10] **spike_cb> spike0ke
[23-Oct-2008 16:30:20] **spike_cb> sorry wrong window
[23-Oct-2008 16:31:21] **stevenblack> I'm having problems specifying an alternate "Page Command".
[23-Oct-2008 16:31:46] **stevenblack> I use a email gateway to send the pages. The documentation says that the page body is sent as the stdin, but my mail body is coming up as empty.
[23-Oct-2008 16:33:43] **stevenblack> Huh. Looks like a problem with the GNU mailutils. A cat-based test shows it should work.
[23-Oct-2008 16:34:14] **stevenblack> Hmm... I wonder if it is creating a PTY...
[23-Oct-2008 16:39:54] **stevenblack> Okay. As near as I can tell, the page command is generating a PTY to call the command. This interferes with the GNU mailutils which asks for a CC if a PTY is available.
[23-Oct-2008 16:40:02] **stevenblack> I switched to 'mailto' and the problem disappeared.
[23-Oct-2008 16:49:27] **stevenblack> I've not seen how to configure the URLs generated in the error notifications. Is it documented somewhere?
[23-Oct-2008 16:50:02] **stevenblack> I have Zenoss trapped behind Apache. No direct Zope access unless I'm forwarding the port to test something.
[23-Oct-2008 16:51:23] **stevenblack> Ah. I found it.
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[23-Oct-2008 21:38:04] **rdb> How can I link directly to the Google Map with nothing else (no header/toolbar) on the screen?
[23-Oct-2008 21:38:28] **rdb> s/toolbar/menubar
[23-Oct-2008 21:38:34] **rdb> basically no dashboard at all
[23-Oct-2008 21:55:42] **rdb> looks like I need to learn zope to do that
[23-Oct-2008 22:04:47] **rdb> ah I see how it works a bit, simpleLocationGeoMap does what I need.
[23-Oct-2008 22:05:08] **rdb> hmm kidna no data poitns.
[23-Oct-2008 22:44:58] **atoshniw> Hello all
[23-Oct-2008 22:48:38] **atoshniw> Can somebody tell me how to monitor activemq on Zenoss using JMX
[23-Oct-2008 23:17:35] **ke4qqq> hey guys - I am looking to move the heavy file I/O in zenoss to a dedicated directory - should I just be looking at /opt/zenoss/perf or something more?
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[24-Oct-2008 05:26:59] **raddy> Anybody out there??/
[24-Oct-2008 05:49:05] **raddy> Anybody there???
[24-Oct-2008 10:20:40] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[24-Oct-2008 10:21:29] **raddy> Is it possible to monitor process's performance (Memory Usage) when we monitor a device via ssh?
[24-Oct-2008 12:54:45] **ke4qqq-afk> hey guys - I am trying to move the heavy disk IO stuff to another set of spindles
[24-Oct-2008 12:55:03] **ke4qqq-afk> is /opt/zenoss/perf the only thing I need to move or is there more?
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[24-Oct-2008 12:58:34] **tkrabec> no clue, I just started lurking here
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[24-Oct-2008 14:59:55] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: well, it depends
[24-Oct-2008 15:00:07] **npmccallum> usually its /opt/zenoss/perf
[24-Oct-2008 15:00:25] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: however, if your disk load is being created by events, then its mysql
[24-Oct-2008 15:11:39] **ke4qqq> well I am pushing mysql to a different spindle as well, but that's easy
[24-Oct-2008 15:11:58] **ke4qqq> just wanted to make sure htat there wasn't some other place Ishould be looking at
[24-Oct-2008 15:16:59] **nemo2> perhaps use innodb instead of myisam
[24-Oct-2008 15:17:06] **nemo2> on the new mysql set up
[24-Oct-2008 15:17:48] **ke4qqq> k
[24-Oct-2008 15:22:10] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: don't bother with innodb
[24-Oct-2008 15:36:44] **SEJeff> nemo2, myisam does writes faster than innodb. zenoss should write to mysql more than read if my understanding is correct
[24-Oct-2008 15:41:53] **nemo2> thats not the advice given to me by zenoss, but i am no mysql expert , i did have mysql perf issues. but i moved to innodb and seperate splindles. helped allot
[24-Oct-2008 15:42:15] **nemo2> spindles*
[24-Oct-2008 16:26:43] **alougee> hello all
[24-Oct-2008 16:27:08] **alougee> hoping someone could answer a question about check_ntp_peer
[24-Oct-2008 16:27:26] **alougee> this command will show an offset
[24-Oct-2008 16:27:54] **alougee> however i am not sure how the offset is calculated...what time is it referencing to be offset
[24-Oct-2008 17:44:46] **npmccallum> nemo2: it depends a lot on your use case
[24-Oct-2008 17:45:27] **nemo2> we do have more reads than writes i think
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[26-Oct-2008 00:01:21] **Bullterd> Hey All
[26-Oct-2008 00:01:33] **Bullterd> Im having Reaall trouble getting zenoss to monitor a windows XP Box
[26-Oct-2008 00:01:49] **Bullterd> 2008-10-26 00:59:13 INFO zen.DeviceLoader Device 192.168.2.51 loaded!
[26-Oct-2008 00:01:58] **Bullterd> Yet I see no device anywhere :S
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[26-Oct-2008 02:34:21] **nemo2> Bullterd, not in Discovered ?
[26-Oct-2008 02:42:26] **Bullterd> nemo2: Discovered ?
[26-Oct-2008 02:42:59] **nemo2> /Devices/Discovered
[26-Oct-2008 02:43:11] **Bullterd> Nope
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[27-Oct-2008 13:49:37] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[27-Oct-2008 13:49:54] **raddy> I have a correctly configured snmpd
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:06] **raddy> Firewall ports opened for smpd
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:10] **raddy> snmpd
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:26] **raddy> But i am unable to monitor the machine
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:43] **raddy> Both are running linux
[27-Oct-2008 13:51:08] **raddy> can anybody help me?
[27-Oct-2008 13:52:11] **nemo_> can you snmpwalk it from your zenoss box
[27-Oct-2008 13:52:13] **nemo_> ?
[27-Oct-2008 14:01:33] **raddy> nemo_: i am not even add the device
[27-Oct-2008 14:03:03] **cgibbons> snmpwalk is a command-line tool that will list the snmp values available from a device, outside of the zenoss application proper
[27-Oct-2008 14:03:23] **cgibbons> so if you run that it can tell if your problem lies within zenoss or within the device/network itself
[27-Oct-2008 14:03:42] **cgibbons> snmpwalk -Os -c public -v1 yourhostnamehere system
[27-Oct-2008 14:04:02] **nemo_> tx i wasnt gonna do that, i think raddy can also read a man page
[27-Oct-2008 14:08:57] **raddy> cgibbons : after starting up snmpd, i can snmpwalk
[27-Oct-2008 14:14:29] **raddy> cgibbons : nemo : when i go to that newly added remote device, go to Per, in graph i am seeing, Missing RRD File "hostname"
[27-Oct-2008 14:15:17] **raddy> cgibbons : nemo : it doesn't detect anything except IP Address of the machine.
[27-Oct-2008 14:18:03] **raddy> Can anybody shed some light???
[27-Oct-2008 14:23:14] **raddy> Anybody there???
[27-Oct-2008 14:28:28] **raddy> Anybody there?
[27-Oct-2008 16:41:09] **rhett> hello. a few weeks ago i added ip services to my servers in the linux class (they are centos5.2 vm's for what its worth). we noticed yesterday that for whatever reason all the ip services were gone. i added ftp and http service to only one of the hosts and an hour later the services had disappeared again! after that i re-added a single ip service of ftp which seemed to stick a little longer but is now gone. has any one else seen this
[27-Oct-2008 16:41:46] **rhett> oh. this was on two different zenoss servers on different nodes w/ the same effect.
[27-Oct-2008 20:12:40] **imperfect-> HOwdy
[27-Oct-2008 20:12:46] **rhett> hello
[27-Oct-2008 20:12:47] **imperfect-> Anyone know how the EDU licensing works?
[27-Oct-2008 20:13:02] **imperfect-> DO you get Enterprise functionality and is there a resource # limit?
[27-Oct-2008 20:13:35] **therealnemo> id contact sales imperfect-
[27-Oct-2008 20:13:41] **therealnemo> as per zenoss website
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:01] **imperfect-> Yeha
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:03] **imperfect-> I read the website.
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:09] **imperfect-> It's fscking expensive for enterprise
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:13] **therealnemo> all i can say is zenoss are flexible
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:15] **imperfect-> 180 per resource per year?
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:38] **imperfect-> That's insane to monitor a 500$ switch when you have 600 of em
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:41] **imperfect-> Ya know?
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:52] **therealnemo> so talk to them
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:54] **therealnemo>
[27-Oct-2008 20:15:14] **therealnemo> thats what happened where i work, i presume its favourable, because they run zenoss world wide
[27-Oct-2008 20:15:27] **imperfect-> What do you mean?
[27-Oct-2008 20:15:48] **therealnemo> i meant talk to zenoss , cant say it clearer
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:04] **imperfect-> < therealnemo> thats what happened where i work, i presume its favourable, because they run zenoss world wide
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:14] **imperfect-> What's unclear.
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:26] **imperfect-> what's 'what happened where i work'
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:29] **imperfect-> what precisely happened?
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:41] **therealnemo> never mind, do as you want, i gotta go. later
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[28-Oct-2008 07:34:47] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[28-Oct-2008 07:35:24] **raddy> Zenoss is not able to monitor my snmpd enabled linux server
[28-Oct-2008 07:35:35] **raddy> Can anybody help me?
[28-Oct-2008 07:47:02] **raddy> Anybody there???
[28-Oct-2008 08:45:51] **raddy> Anybody out there???
[28-Oct-2008 08:50:55] **Quadro> y
[28-Oct-2008 08:53:45] **raddy> Quadro : i have added a linux server running snmp as a devices
[28-Oct-2008 08:54:13] **raddy> Quadro : Zenoss found it's IP and everything went well.
[28-Oct-2008 08:54:34] **raddy> Quadro : but nothing is detected in the device
[28-Oct-2008 09:00:12] **raddy> Quadro : are you there???
[28-Oct-2008 09:18:24] **Bart> run snmpwalk and check if you are actually getting data.
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[28-Oct-2008 12:05:04] **fuzz> Any ideas why my zenoss (2.2.4) don't want to graph certain values for an F5 BigIP box? When I run zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d mydevname.com i get "Error reading value for "Server connects" on mydevname.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.12.8 is bad)". Many other OIDs are "bad", but not all. It seems the bad ones are the ones which are only available via SNMP v2c. However, I've checked the zProperty zSnmpVer and it is set to v2c.
[28-Oct-2008 12:05:48] **fuzz> With snmpwalk it works fine by the way:
[28-Oct-2008 12:05:50] **fuzz> zenoss@zenoss:~$ snmpwalk -v2c -c public mydev.com .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.12.8
[28-Oct-2008 12:05:53] **fuzz> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.1.2.12.8.0 = Counter64: 736182981
[28-Oct-2008 12:06:50] **fuzz> any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
[28-Oct-2008 13:28:32] **jabbertwo> quick question: on a windows devices (specifically a radius server), how do you unmonitor a specific service? when you go to the OS tab and even click on caption for windows services, it isn't listed. (kdc, NtFrs, IsmServ specifically)
[28-Oct-2008 15:20:43] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[28-Oct-2008 15:21:18] **raddy> I have just monitoring two devices.
[28-Oct-2008 15:22:02] **raddy> Now the memory consuption is 600MB
[28-Oct-2008 15:22:39] **raddy> I have stopped Zen-Modeler, ZenWin, ZenSysLog, Zen-EventLog etc
[28-Oct-2008 15:24:18] **nemo_> and i thought i had issues
[28-Oct-2008 15:27:32] **raddy> Is the memory concuption normal?
[28-Oct-2008 15:30:49] **nemo_> how are you measuring memory consumption
[28-Oct-2008 15:31:06] **nemo_> i am a little bit dubious about what you report
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:03] **raddy> namo_ : measuring the Real memory concuption of /opt/zenoss/bin/python process
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:22] **nemo_> i repeat my question
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:33] **nemo_> how do you measure the consumption of the process
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:59] **raddy> nemo_ : via Zenoss
[28-Oct-2008 15:46:17] **raddy> nemo_ : are you there???
[28-Oct-2008 15:51:41] **nemo_> raddy, didnt we talk about this before
[28-Oct-2008 15:51:48] **nemo_> i help where i can, but i am not your resource
[28-Oct-2008 15:51:53] **nemo_> understood ?
[28-Oct-2008 15:52:16] **raddy> nemo_ : ohh, sorry, i understood. you can carry on
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[28-Oct-2008 19:01:44] **flstf> ?ping? trying to setup a second collector and not displaying graphs, any thoughts
[28-Oct-2008 19:02:27] **therealnemo> version , ent ?
[28-Oct-2008 19:03:02] **flstf> 2.2.4
[28-Oct-2008 19:03:36] **flstf> this is core
[28-Oct-2008 19:03:47] **therealnemo> not sure how its done in core
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:00] **therealnemo> but make sure the render server is set up to be your main host
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:06] **therealnemo> in collector settings
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:25] **therealnemo> and also make sure hubhost is set to the main server in your collectors configs
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:39] **flstf> done.
[28-Oct-2008 19:05:01] **therealnemo> what are you seeing , no graph, no values in graph etc
[28-Oct-2008 19:05:40] **flstf> no graphs, rrd's are being built/updated. Looks like I'm getting some kind of 404 error in events
[28-Oct-2008 19:06:20] **therealnemo> porob for the render server
[28-Oct-2008 19:06:30] **therealnemo> if i remember right (no access to my setup from here )
[28-Oct-2008 19:06:52] **therealnemo> the render server was port 8091 on my main zenoss machine ( the interface where ppl login )
[28-Oct-2008 19:07:28] **flstf> I can see the connection being made (netstat)
[28-Oct-2008 19:07:43] **flstf> maybe I should run a capture
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:04] **therealnemo> and your configs on your collector
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:06] **therealnemo> where are they
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:23] **therealnemo> there are two sets, i presume only 1 is used ( on enterprise 2.3.2 anyway )
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:27] **flstf> ZENHOME/etc
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:37] **therealnemo> that might be the issue
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:42] **therealnemo> my collector is called perf01
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:55] **therealnemo> i login to it and go ZENHOME/perf01/etc/
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:02] **therealnemo> see if that exists on yours
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:17] **flstf> nope
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:28] **therealnemo> locate for it ( just in case i got the paths wrong )
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:59] **therealnemo> is it just the graphs that are an issue
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:07] **therealnemo> are you getting events into your system ?
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:09] **flstf> yep
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:17] **flstf> getting events and the like
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:20] **therealnemo> so i reckon it has to be the render server
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:23] **flstf> just no graphs
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:26] **therealnemo> thats what it was with mine
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:31] **flstf> k
[28-Oct-2008 19:11:07] **therealnemo> you should see the url its trying to pull in the logs ( increase verbosity of them , called severity in zenoss )
[28-Oct-2008 19:11:17] **therealnemo> then you can try it by hand
[28-Oct-2008 19:12:19] **flstf> thanks, I'll try that
[28-Oct-2008 19:15:53] **flstf> ERROR zen.RRDView
[28-Oct-2008 19:16:15] **flstf> that from the render server
[28-Oct-2008 19:17:06] **therealnemo> hmm not seen that before
[28-Oct-2008 19:17:13] **therealnemo> pop it into google see what comes up
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[28-Oct-2008 20:22:33] **therealnemo> http://down.codeweavers.com/
[28-Oct-2008 20:22:38] **therealnemo> interesting !
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[28-Oct-2008 22:53:59] **mosburn> is there a clean way to remove zenoss-stack?
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[29-Oct-2008 11:28:05] **ed_mt> hi guys
[29-Oct-2008 12:07:36] **ed_mt> anyone had any issues reading the WMI Perf counters on a windows 2008 managed server?
[29-Oct-2008 12:07:43] **ed_mt> seems to be a problem for me
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[29-Oct-2008 15:20:24] **uwe> hello, when i try to add ipinterfaces to a server , it takes the name and the mac, but not the IP Addresses, is it that im doing something incorrectly or is it a bug ?
[29-Oct-2008 16:16:49] **uwe> and also ... i changed zenwmi settings, and mapped the device, still it shows wmi in orange ... nothing in the events is recent ... and i aknowledged old events
[29-Oct-2008 16:28:07] **uwe> also i did zencommand run -d server_name -v10
[29-Oct-2008 16:31:25] **uwe> i dont want to wait like 6 hours to test my changes .... :S
[29-Oct-2008 16:31:34] **npmccallum> uwe: I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish... all your interfaces should be detected by modeling
[29-Oct-2008 16:33:08] **uwe> the interfaces issue is one thing ... (which btw is not being detected by modelling!) wmi is another thing ...
[29-Oct-2008 16:33:40] **uwe> oh, finally the zenwin is green ...
[29-Oct-2008 16:33:57] **uwe> i had to move it to history then remodel ... it worked, or maybe on its own
[29-Oct-2008 16:34:34] **uwe> for wmi, i wanted to see what kind of info zenoss will provide if i enable wmi
[29-Oct-2008 16:35:18] **uwe> nothing additional actually :S
[29-Oct-2008 16:49:51] **npmccallum> uwe: is this core?
[29-Oct-2008 16:50:09] **uwe> npmccallum, um .. yes
[29-Oct-2008 16:50:41] **uwe> oh, this is only useful when using enterprise ?
[29-Oct-2008 16:52:02] **npmccallum> uwe: honestly, I don't know what works in core vs enterprise
[29-Oct-2008 16:52:17] **npmccallum> since I deal pretty much exclusively with enterprise
[29-Oct-2008 16:53:39] **uwe> ah ... i see
[29-Oct-2008 17:32:16] **uwe> well, thank you all
[29-Oct-2008 17:32:24] **uwe> thanks npmccallum
[29-Oct-2008 17:32:34] **npmccallum> uwe: np
[29-Oct-2008 20:37:58] **khazad-dum> hello all
[29-Oct-2008 20:38:13] **khazad-dum> I've a couple of questions
[29-Oct-2008 20:38:30] **khazad-dum> about zenoss base version
[29-Oct-2008 20:38:45] **khazad-dum> is there someone?
[29-Oct-2008 20:39:04] **rhett__> im around but i am unsure how helpful i can be
[29-Oct-2008 20:39:19] **khazad-dum> oh, thx
[29-Oct-2008 20:39:34] **khazad-dum> I'm looking for the price for the base version
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:04] **khazad-dum> but there is a form
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:11] **rhett__> core?
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:14] **khazad-dum> yes
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:18] **rhett__> its free
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:23] **khazad-dum> oh
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:30] **khazad-dum> and what I can do with the core?
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:34] **rhett__> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zenoss/
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:41] **adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss Core - Enterprise IT Monitoring (at sourceforge.net)
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:42] **khazad-dum> yes, I know
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:56] **rhett__> http://www.zenoss.com/product/core info on core
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:03] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Core Product Overview - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:12] **khazad-dum> ah ok
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:25] **rhett__> i am unsure the exact difference between core pro and enterprise
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:28] **rhett__> i only use core
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:56] **khazad-dum> and how many devices do you have under montitor ?
[29-Oct-2008 20:44:48] **rhett__> about 20
[29-Oct-2008 20:45:04] **khazad-dum> and what kind of OS do you have=
[29-Oct-2008 20:45:05] **khazad-dum> ?
[29-Oct-2008 20:46:55] **rhett__> centos 5.2
[29-Oct-2008 20:47:05] **khazad-dum> nothing about windows ?
[29-Oct-2008 20:47:06] **rhett__> monitoring centos 5.2 and darwin boxes
[29-Oct-2008 20:47:16] **rhett__> i have two windows vm's but i dont care about them really
[29-Oct-2008 20:48:33] **khazad-dum> how MS Windows can be monitored?
[29-Oct-2008 20:48:39] **khazad-dum> via snmp I mean
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:14] **rhett__> i am only using snmp
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:18] **rhett__> but wmi is in there too
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:35] **khazad-dum> sorry
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:47] **rhett__> i am only using snmp but wmi is in there too
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:55] **khazad-dum> ok!
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:56] **khazad-dum> ty
[29-Oct-2008 20:52:24] **rhett__> np
[29-Oct-2008 20:53:28] **khazad-dum> I'll try right now
[29-Oct-2008 20:53:29] **khazad-dum> bye bye
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[30-Oct-2008 08:59:00] **nemo2> morning
[30-Oct-2008 10:15:10] **kippi> hey
[30-Oct-2008 10:15:52] **kippi> on zenoss can I run a tool on a remote machine to nmap other servers etc and then push the results back to my main zenoss install ?
[30-Oct-2008 10:49:21] **ke4qqq-afk> kippi - I don't see why not - just setup a nagios plugin to do that
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[30-Oct-2008 14:26:43] **MAHerron> anybody awake?
[30-Oct-2008 15:27:39] **MAlexHerron> anyone seen problems with events that have cleared not being correctly removed from event console on accounts that are perpetually signed in?
[30-Oct-2008 15:40:42] **huggie> Hi. I'm trying to get a zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames of "lo" to apply. I remodeled my device and it came back with some logs which implied it had worked but in the Components bit it's still got the lo interface. Anyone any ideas?
[30-Oct-2008 15:41:07] **huggie> Oh yeah, looking at zProperties on that device I remodeled it does indeed have that set to lo.
[30-Oct-2008 16:06:32] **nemo2> using zenoss enterprise 2.2.3
[30-Oct-2008 16:06:41] **nemo2> 2 collectors
[30-Oct-2008 16:07:01] **nemo2> but set the collector seems to only add another collector
[30-Oct-2008 16:07:10] **nemo2> effectivly now machines are monitored twice
[30-Oct-2008 16:07:39] **nemo2> cannot anyone confirm this happens for them / or not ? pls
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[30-Oct-2008 16:12:31] **nemo2> reindexing the db seems to fix that btw
[30-Oct-2008 16:48:55] **CharlieSu> Could anyone tell me how to manually invoke JMX collection for a device? I'm trying to test a Template I just made but don't know how to manually invoke it to see if it is collecting data
[30-Oct-2008 18:26:32] **anthonyclark> hi all, I'm writing a python script that calls the zenoss functions, and was wondering how I use commit() in the same way as zendmd?
[30-Oct-2008 18:31:55] **anthonyclark> I have m = ZenScriptBase(connect=True), but I can't call m.commit() - anyone got a quick pointer on how I should be doing this?
[30-Oct-2008 18:41:32] **anthonyclark> oh wait, got it, needed to import transaction
[30-Oct-2008 18:42:00] **anthonyclark> however, next question: I'm editing an event summary, then commit()ing the change, why doesn't that change get saved?
[30-Oct-2008 18:57:05] **jeld> I have the most basic event mapping rule, consisting only of eventClassKey name and for some reason it doesn't map
[30-Oct-2008 18:58:12] **jeld> the event is from apache error log forwarded to syslog
[30-Oct-2008 18:58:30] **jeld> I created a mapping that just has httpd as event class key and name
[30-Oct-2008 19:06:59] **anthonyclark> anyone have a suggestion as to why commit() won't work? it doesn't make changes either within zendmd or my custom script
[30-Oct-2008 19:31:55] **MAlexHerron> anyone seen problems with events that have cleared not being correctly removed from event console on accounts that are perpetually signed in?
[30-Oct-2008 20:36:09] **MAlexHerron> anyone know if there is a logfile for zenmib
[30-Oct-2008 23:49:41] **cereal|work> hey i'm new to zenoss....but i added a node which uses snmp and we use non-standard ports or various reasons and i forgot to change the port. Now I cant figure out how to force this node to be rediscovered with the new port, does anyone know where I would do this at?
[30-Oct-2008 23:54:08] **rhett> i believe if you go into z properties and change the port and remodel/push the changes that would work
[30-Oct-2008 23:54:17] **cereal|work> hasnt yet
[30-Oct-2008 23:54:53] **rhett> how many devices do you need to change
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:08] **cereal|work> 1
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:11] **rhett> oh
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:22] **cereal|work> i'm more confused as to why this isnt working tho
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:38] **cereal|work> was the second node i added lol
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:41] **rhett> well you should be able to go into the zproperties of the device by cliking the menu button and change it there
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:56] **rhett> after that is down try and snmpwalk the device from within zenoss
[30-Oct-2008 23:56:50] **cereal|work> k i'll try it out
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[31-Oct-2008 00:53:38] **jaredor> Hello, I'm trying to make an event command when an snmp_linkdown comes across. I can get the command to work but im trying to pull the ifDesc from the details of the event.
[31-Oct-2008 00:53:52] **jaredor> I tried ${evt/ifDesc} but it doesnt return the value of ifdesc
[31-Oct-2008 00:54:27] **jaredor> anyone know what expression that would be?
[31-Oct-2008 01:19:13] **jaredor> Nobody knows the TAILS expression for ifDesc out of an event?
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[31-Oct-2008 03:14:06] **jaredor> Hi cluther
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[31-Oct-2008 12:40:26] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[31-Oct-2008 12:40:54] **raddy> Zenoss Memory Usage seems constantly growing
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:11] **raddy> It was started around 450MB
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:18] **raddy> Now it is 600MB
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:31] **raddy> Only monitoring 2 devices
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:42] **raddy> running under 64Bit OS
[31-Oct-2008 12:44:11] **raddy> Anybody there?
[31-Oct-2008 13:20:52] **reighnman> Anyone know how to get the ifDesc tails expressions from an snmp_linkdown event?
[31-Oct-2008 13:45:04] **raddy> reighnman : do you know what performance templates can be bound to a device?
[31-Oct-2008 14:05:36] **reighnman> raddy : Is this about my issue or are you asking me about yours?
[31-Oct-2008 18:31:32] **MAlexHerron> happy halloween Zennites!
[31-Oct-2008 18:37:35] **nemo2> dankuwel
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[01-Oct-2008 03:22:48] **perr> am I blind? where can I register for zenoss forum?
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[01-Oct-2008 14:26:46] **W9ZEB> is there a way to add additional information to the "Device Information" section?
[01-Oct-2008 14:27:26] **W9ZEB> Beyond the four organizers, and OS fields?
[01-Oct-2008 14:31:48] **W9ZEB> or, can items added to the Custom tab, be displayed in the heads up/dashboard display for any given server?
[01-Oct-2008 15:14:59] **evil-lw> question regarding process monitoring, A process crashes on one of my servers in production, the process disappears from the OS view of the host in zenoss, and an event is generated, then a person goes and restarts the crashed process, yet there is no clear notification, and the process does not re-appear on the os display for the host.. I'm guessing until it's remodeled, is this proper/expected behavior? is there anyway to change i
[01-Oct-2008 15:27:28] **daMaestro> has anyone found a way to actually print an event list?
[01-Oct-2008 15:30:22] **daMaestro> hmm i suppose download as cvs and printing from OOo calc is fine
[01-Oct-2008 15:30:50] **pe1> I don't think there is much convo here
[01-Oct-2008 16:51:14] **evil-lw> so I feel like a doofus, i was looking the wrong server, but I still didn't get a clear nor did the event clear it's self... so I guess that is the root of my problem after all....
[01-Oct-2008 17:56:06] **nemo2> daMaestro, sql query in your chosen lang ? ( events are in the mysql db )
[01-Oct-2008 17:56:37] **daMaestro> nemo2, i just exported my search to CVS and used OOo
[01-Oct-2008 17:56:48] **daMaestro> i just wanted a printed list of things i need to go update
[01-Oct-2008 17:57:27] **nemo2> ah i see what you mean now
[01-Oct-2008 17:57:43] **nemo2> yeh i normally filter on the device list and download a csv too
[01-Oct-2008 18:16:20] **garnica> what's up team, I've just installed zenoss 2.2.4 and trying to zenrestore a backup file of a zenoss 2.1.3 but doesn't seem to be all ok....
[01-Oct-2008 18:16:47] **garnica> any ideas of how can I restore this 2.1.3 backup to my new 2.2.4 zenoss install ??
[01-Oct-2008 18:19:21] **garnica> the most important feature to restore are the RRD files of the devices in 2.1.3 ( and of course my devices )
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:11] **nemo2> you made backups right ?
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:15] **nemo2> whos your team btw ?
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:24] **garnica> zenbackup in a zenoss 2.1.3 yes
[01-Oct-2008 18:20:38] **nemo2> so your good
[01-Oct-2008 18:21:17] **garnica> I want this backup restored in my fresh install of zenoss 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 18:21:29] **nemo2> doh
[01-Oct-2008 18:21:42] **nemo2> perhaps you should have upgraded and not reinstalled in that case
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:04] **nemo2> try it , nothing to lose i guess
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:04] **garnica> ok... these are diferent zenoss server.....
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:20] **nemo2> why dont you just try restoring it
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:27] **garnica> so I should install 2.1.3 first... then upgrade to 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 18:22:43] **nemo2> i repeat the last statement
[01-Oct-2008 18:24:18] **garnica> I've tried zenrestore.... but besides nothing was restored... my new zenoss 2.2.4 install does not start properly
[01-Oct-2008 18:25:02] **garnica> I will try... installing 2.1.3 and then upgrade.... let's see what happens ....
[01-Oct-2008 18:26:04] **garnica> ok people... have to move right now.... emergency.... see you later......
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[01-Oct-2008 20:02:04] **d1nker> does the core version of Zenoss 2.3 come with ZenWinPerf and if so how do I enable it?
[01-Oct-2008 20:24:58] **evil-lw> any hints on where I can change the remodeling rate?
[01-Oct-2008 20:30:15] **alougee> anyone up for a question?
[01-Oct-2008 20:47:38] **rhett_> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me. i am having an issue w/ zenhub not running. i tried service 'zenoss-stack restart' and everything but zenhub runs. i also tried 'zenhub run' and i am not getting an output. stopping and starting zenoss-stack receives w/ the same result.
[01-Oct-2008 20:57:13] **garnica> zenhub restart or zenhub start ?
[01-Oct-2008 20:57:25] **garnica> have you tried these ?
[01-Oct-2008 20:59:19] **rhett_> yes i have
[01-Oct-2008 21:00:00] **rhett_> hm, nm, i just tried start again and nothing, tried restart and it worked
[01-Oct-2008 21:00:32] **rhett_> any ideas about that one?
[01-Oct-2008 21:01:03] **rhett_> also it appears this always happens when the box restarts, or at least it has the past 3 times.
[01-Oct-2008 21:07:33] **alougee> is it possible to show a graph, such as sysuptime, of all devices on one page?
[01-Oct-2008 21:08:36] **garnica> zenoss version ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:04] **garnica> in my case when while zenhub was not running ... not a single graph was updated
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:04] **rhett_> Zenoss Zenoss 2.2.3
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:10] **rhett_> i see 2.2.4 is available now
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:35] **garnica> yep... I am actually installing 2.2.4 to test it
[01-Oct-2008 21:10:45] **alougee> mine is 2.2.3
[01-Oct-2008 21:11:14] **rhett_> its possible to see the graphs, but they do not update
[01-Oct-2008 21:11:30] **garnica> suddently my zenhub stops running... but happens when I try many zenoss restart
[01-Oct-2008 21:11:57] **garnica> yep.... no graphs are updated until zenhub is running....
[01-Oct-2008 21:12:29] **garnica> so if I use zenoss restart... have to make sure zenhub is running using a zenoss status
[01-Oct-2008 21:12:54] **garnica> I'm using zenoss 2.1.3
[01-Oct-2008 21:15:43] **rhett_> garnica: ok, thats what i have been doing, i wonder why its not starting on boot or using zenhub/zenoss-stack start
[01-Oct-2008 21:17:32] **garnica> Have you checked zenhub logs ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:22:19] **rhett_> yes of course, nothing stands out.
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:25] **nemo2> rhett_, test it like this: zenhub run -v10
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:41] **rhett_> nemo2: ah yes, i forgot about the -v10
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:43] **rhett_> thanks
[01-Oct-2008 21:26:46] **nemo2> np
[01-Oct-2008 21:27:03] **nemo2> run only runs in the foreground right ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:27:52] **rhett_> yeah
[01-Oct-2008 21:28:02] **rhett_> unless of course you screen it or bg
[01-Oct-2008 21:28:39] **nemo2> what i meant was to remind you to do a start / stop etc , and not to leave it running in 'run'
[01-Oct-2008 21:28:44] **nemo2> but thats your call.
[01-Oct-2008 21:29:12] **nemo2> what does the output say anyhow ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:30:22] **rhett_> haha, i see, yeah i will remember to start it, thanks
[01-Oct-2008 21:30:47] **rhett_> not much
[01-Oct-2008 21:30:59] **rhett_> says thresholds:updating
[01-Oct-2008 21:31:11] **rhett_> cleared an event
[01-Oct-2008 21:31:17] **rhett_> thats abou tit
[01-Oct-2008 21:31:35] **nemo2> well that sounds ok .. what were you expecting ?
[01-Oct-2008 21:34:08] **alougee> is it possible to show a graph, such as sysuptime, of all devices on one page?
[01-Oct-2008 21:35:44] **alougee> also is it possible to create a threshold with a variable defined via cdef?
[01-Oct-2008 21:35:49] **alougee> rather than just a datapoint
[01-Oct-2008 21:37:09] **rhett_> nemo2: for it to work when the machine reboots without me having to look into it, i am unsure why this is happening now
[01-Oct-2008 21:39:29] **nemo2> zenhub restart rhett_
[01-Oct-2008 21:40:32] **rhett_> is it common to have to do that after the server reboots?
[01-Oct-2008 21:51:14] **nemo2> chkconfig --list|grep zenoss to see if it starts after reboot
[01-Oct-2008 21:51:14] **nemo2> assuming redhat ish linux
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:13] **rhett_> zenoss-stack boots
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:19] **rhett_> its only zenhub that dosnt start
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:35] **rhett_> log dosnt show anything
[01-Oct-2008 21:56:57] **rhett_> any errors
[01-Oct-2008 22:02:57] **evil-lw> is it possible to use an event mapping to ignroe /perf/snmp notices about not being able to read values?
[01-Oct-2008 22:58:12] * evil-lw pokes dorferiferon
[01-Oct-2008 22:58:30] **evil-lw> hmm, no yelp
[01-Oct-2008 23:04:19] **perr> why isn't the install guide updated for freeBSD 7?
[01-Oct-2008 23:05:08] **perr> I know this is dry dessert and rare to find a soul but maybe my question will be echoed...
[01-Oct-2008 23:05:56] **evil-lw> perr: i know the feeling, Trying to get my install working right and it takes days to get an answer or insight
[01-Oct-2008 23:06:27] **perr> have you checked the forums
[01-Oct-2008 23:06:38] **perr> it seems like they have a lot more traffic there
[01-Oct-2008 23:08:34] **evil-lw> perr: i HATE online forums, i've always found irc to be best for most things... except the odd linux kernel issue that requires a detailed email... but I'm on the virge of giving it a try
[01-Oct-2008 23:09:45] **perr> evil-lw: they have good support there. I was under the impression they'd have a developer peek their head in from time to time
[01-Oct-2008 23:09:46] **garnica> evil-lw: installing working ?? what's with installing ?
[01-Oct-2008 23:10:11] **perr> but I guess not
[01-Oct-2008 23:10:22] **evil-lw> garnica: more along the lines of configuration/tuning
[01-Oct-2008 23:11:39] **evil-lw> i could turn off my nagios system and use it, but i'll have people stringing me up from the roof in about 24 hours unless I clean some of the issues up.
[01-Oct-2008 23:12:39] **perr> what is your issue?
[01-Oct-2008 23:13:42] **garnica> I'm trying to restore a zenbackup made in zenoss 2.1.3 to a fresh installed 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 23:14:04] **garnica> zenbackup and zenrestore won't work from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 23:14:41] **garnica> Then I am trying, installing 2.1.3. ... restoring my backup ....then upgrading to 2.2.4
[01-Oct-2008 23:15:01] **garnica> let's see what happens then.....
[01-Oct-2008 23:17:27] **evil-lw> so far, I don't think it's sent a single clear message, and I can't seem to get it to filter out process restart notifications which seems to be required for osprocess events to clear. When I left work today, I was getting FLOODs of emails regarding process restarts which are actually due to threads going in and out on processes that are being monitored... that and I'd almost pay money to filter out crap from /perf/snmp.. or at lea
[01-Oct-2008 23:17:47] **perr> I am searching on the forums
[01-Oct-2008 23:19:30] **perr> evil-lw: Its best for you to search bud there's a lot of threads and I am not up to par
[01-Oct-2008 23:20:06] **evil-lw> perr: i jsut found one that thread that at least has given me another idea
[01-Oct-2008 23:20:15] **perr> k
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[02-Oct-2008 00:02:18] **perr> is zenoss-logger a bot?
[02-Oct-2008 00:02:25] **evil-lw> yes
[02-Oct-2008 00:02:37] **perr> what's the purpose?
[02-Oct-2008 00:03:10] * evil-lw pokes dorferiferon for drey (mutual friend)
[02-Oct-2008 00:03:27] **perr> k
[02-Oct-2008 00:03:47] **evil-lw> it logs for the zenoss website
[02-Oct-2008 00:04:11] **perr> ahh yeah, I've seen recorded iirc chats there
[02-Oct-2008 00:05:01] **evil-lw> wow... doing it as a transform may finally fix my bloody problems
[02-Oct-2008 00:05:08] **rhett_> wonder why 2.2.4 stack .rpm's arenot on sf
[02-Oct-2008 00:07:12] **evil-lw> wow... so zenprocess locked on to a child thread and then alarmed when the thread disappeared... i love it
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[02-Oct-2008 12:37:21] **Bulwinkle> Is everyone running 2.2.4 now? I'm wondering if I should move up....
[02-Oct-2008 13:05:49] **evil-lw> is there anywhere besides the alerting rules that can control if a clear message is to be generated? If an osprocess or an ipservice neither generate a clear message, is it something with the process that puts that into the database, or what? Really, what determines its time to create a clear message, and put that into the status database for zenactions to see and send the email? Its like nothing exists in the status db in relati
[02-Oct-2008 13:44:19] **d1nker> I'm monitoring nortel 5500 and after I model the device the only interfaces that show up are the first 10, I'm new to zenoss where can I start to troubleshoot this problem and add the other 38 ports?
[02-Oct-2008 15:07:07] **d1nker> apparently a version upgrade from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4 fixed the problem
[02-Oct-2008 15:36:48] **perr> has anyone removed packages from the GNUmakefile products-install?
[02-Oct-2008 16:22:29] **Xserver> j #nagios
[02-Oct-2008 16:29:26] **chrisg> lol
[02-Oct-2008 16:29:31] **chrisg> goddamn flamebait
[02-Oct-2008 17:18:01] **evil-lw> lol
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[02-Oct-2008 17:54:26] **rhett_> hello, i just installed a fresh copy of 2.2.4 via rpm yesterday. i added to windows vm's i was not monitoring except w/ snmp (they are xp and vista business). i made an attempt to use WMI but i keep getting the following error: DOS code 0x00000058. Any ideas?
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[02-Oct-2008 17:57:35] **nemo2> google on wmi trouble shooting rhett_, or search zenoss
[02-Oct-2008 17:57:38] **nemo2> ''s site
[02-Oct-2008 17:57:55] **nemo2> +zenoss +wmi trouble shooting
[02-Oct-2008 18:12:21] **perr> Xserver that is not going to work
[02-Oct-2008 18:31:18] **kotique> hey guys. Error reading value for "memBuffer" on xxx (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad). I can do snmpget on it right from zenoss host
[02-Oct-2008 18:31:46] **kotique> getting UCD-SNMP-MIB::memBuffer.0 = INTEGER: 25440
[02-Oct-2008 18:49:43] **kotique> community wrong
[02-Oct-2008 18:49:54] **kotique> hmm. setis it to public, alhtough i have overriden it
[02-Oct-2008 19:50:09] * evil-lw ponders hitting up arrow to pose same question again.....
[02-Oct-2008 20:24:04] **ke4qqq> anyone know what threshold of zenwin cycle tim exceeded, where can I change the threshold?
[02-Oct-2008 20:29:56] **magnachef> settings -> daemons -> edit config (in the zenwin row)
[02-Oct-2008 20:35:17] **ke4qqq> it has only one param there - monitor - so obviously the param is a default and not listed - is there documentation on available params. Is the param I am looking threshhold?
[02-Oct-2008 20:53:17] **magnachef> not sure
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[03-Oct-2008 05:51:29] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[03-Oct-2008 05:51:36] **raddy> Howdy
[03-Oct-2008 05:52:49] **raddy> How is ZenOSS is better than Hyperic?
[03-Oct-2008 06:20:54] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 08:38:15] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[03-Oct-2008 08:38:29] **raddy> How do i change ZenOSS port?
[03-Oct-2008 08:38:38] **raddy> Can anybody help me?
[03-Oct-2008 08:43:53] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 08:52:37] **tarjei> raddy: try the forums. Why do you need to change the port btw?
[03-Oct-2008 11:11:06] **evil-lw> is there anywhere besides the alerting rules that can control if a clear message is to be generated? If an osprocess or an ipservice neither generate a clear message, is it something with the process that puts that into the database, or what? Really, what determines its time to create a clear message, and put that into the status database for zenactions to see and send the email? Its like nothing exists in the status db in relati
[03-Oct-2008 12:15:19] **raddy> How to make to ZenOSS web server funtion in different port?
[03-Oct-2008 12:19:26] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 12:37:20] **raddy> Is it possible to change default port?
[03-Oct-2008 12:41:49] **raddy> Anybody out there ?????
[03-Oct-2008 12:46:03] **raddy> Anybody there???
[03-Oct-2008 13:32:20] **per> werd
[03-Oct-2008 13:35:32] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[03-Oct-2008 13:36:15] **per> not likely
[03-Oct-2008 13:39:31] **raddy> per: do you know how to change ZenOSS web server port ?
[03-Oct-2008 13:40:11] **per> yes
[03-Oct-2008 13:40:27] **per> one sec
[03-Oct-2008 13:43:47] **raddy> per : i am running Tomcat in my server
[03-Oct-2008 13:44:21] **raddy> per : so i can't use the port 8080
[03-Oct-2008 13:44:59] **per> me too
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:02] **raddy> per : so i tried changing the port by editing zope.conf, but it didn't help
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:08] **per> raddy: [root@testing ~]# cat -n /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf |grep 8888
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:08] **per> 880 address 8888
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:31] **per> line 880 of zope.conf
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:40] **per> what OS are you running
[03-Oct-2008 13:45:58] **per> did you restart zope to make the change
[03-Oct-2008 13:46:43] **raddy> per : i am running linux
[03-Oct-2008 13:46:55] **raddy> per : how to start stop zope?
[03-Oct-2008 13:47:09] **per> which OS?
[03-Oct-2008 13:47:55] **raddy> per : Cent OS 5, RHEL derivative
[03-Oct-2008 13:49:39] **per> issue the following: service zenoss restart
[03-Oct-2008 13:53:28] **raddy> per : actually i changed the port already. and restarted ZenOSS
[03-Oct-2008 13:54:18] **raddy> per : now the problem is, My browser is connecting to ZenOSS server at that port
[03-Oct-2008 13:54:43] **raddy> per : shows Transfering data for a very very long time
[03-Oct-2008 13:54:58] **raddy> per : what would be the reason?
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:05] **per> raddy: I am not quite understaind what the problem is
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:24] **per> its working?
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:37] **raddy> per : how do i know?
[03-Oct-2008 13:55:45] **raddy> per : services started fine
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:10] **per> when you restarted zenoss?
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:21] **raddy> per : Yeah, i did.
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:23] **per> it tells you a list of its services
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:31] **raddy> per : ok
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:38] **per> but there is a way to get it statuses
[03-Oct-2008 13:56:56] **raddy> Per : Ohhh
[03-Oct-2008 13:57:10] **per> i think the only which doesn't start is zenctl
[03-Oct-2008 13:57:37] **per> raddy: the best way to learn is to read the documentation
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:03] **raddy> per : basically there is no zenctl
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:21] **per> don't worry about that
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:24] **raddy> per : zeoctl is there
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:27] **per> yes
[03-Oct-2008 13:58:30] **per> my bad
[03-Oct-2008 13:59:03] **raddy> per : zeoctl too started fine.
[03-Oct-2008 13:59:11] **raddy> cgibbons
[03-Oct-2008 13:59:31] **raddy> cgibbons : do you have any idea?
[03-Oct-2008 14:02:39] **raddy> per only useful error was, when i started zope seperatly i got error that can't import site.
[03-Oct-2008 14:03:15] **per> zenoss does it all fo you raddy
[03-Oct-2008 14:03:50] **per> so your problem is that it times out?
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:07] **per> and you can't connect to it?
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:08] **raddy> per : yup
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:17] **raddy> per : exactly
[03-Oct-2008 14:04:19] **per> and you have apache running
[03-Oct-2008 14:05:03] **raddy> per : apache and tomcat
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:26] **raddy> CamargoBP : hi
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:35] **per> raddy: how are you accessing zenoss
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:47] **per> http://server:8888/
[03-Oct-2008 14:07:49] **per> ?
[03-Oct-2008 14:08:36] **per> raddy: how bout a firewall or SELinux turned on?
[03-Oct-2008 14:09:11] **raddy> per : selinux is disabled in our server.
[03-Oct-2008 14:09:37] **raddy> per : shall i try accessing ZenOSS in our server using Lynx?
[03-Oct-2008 14:10:18] **per> no
[03-Oct-2008 14:10:32] **raddy> per : why not?
[03-Oct-2008 14:10:39] **per> do you have firewall turned on? if you do are you allowing access to port 8888?
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:01] **per> it doesn't matter which browser you access it with if that is your question
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:14] **raddy> per : i have firewall turned on, the port i am using is 8100
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:40] **per> for zenoss?
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:43] **raddy> per : i am talking about local browser lynx that runs in our server
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:47] **per> I know
[03-Oct-2008 14:11:52] **per> use what ever you want
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:07] **raddy> per : yup 8100 for zenoss
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:11] **per> raddy: dissable your firewall momentarily
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:15] **per> and try it again
[03-Oct-2008 14:12:23] **per> if it works then you know what the issue is
[03-Oct-2008 14:14:56] **raddy> per : i have open the port for 8100 by this command iptables -I RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[03-Oct-2008 14:15:03] **raddy> per : still no diffs
[03-Oct-2008 14:19:06] **per> but you can see that there not being blocked?
[03-Oct-2008 14:19:30] **per> raddy: I love to help you figure this out but I have to get back to work good luck
[03-Oct-2008 14:19:42] **raddy> per : interestingly when i try to access :8100 port from web browser after disabling Zenoss, Browser instantly shows "Failed to connect"
[03-Oct-2008 14:20:09] **raddy> per : you where the only help for me, ok thank you
[03-Oct-2008 14:20:25] **raddy> dorferiferon : can you help me?
[03-Oct-2008 14:20:56] **raddy> dorferiferon : I am not able to access ZenOSS web interface
[03-Oct-2008 14:24:07] **raddy> Anybody there?
[03-Oct-2008 14:27:42] **per> raddy: this channel is very slow in traffic
[03-Oct-2008 14:28:02] **raddy> per : Ohh unfortunate
[03-Oct-2008 14:33:13] **raddy> per : not even any interesting stuffs in log files.
[03-Oct-2008 14:33:43] **per> I know
[03-Oct-2008 14:34:53] **raddy> mf2ng : i am experience problems in connecting to ZenOSS web interface.
[03-Oct-2008 14:35:02] **raddy> mf2ng can you help me?
[03-Oct-2008 14:42:18] **raddy> mf2ng : are you there???
[03-Oct-2008 14:59:36] **dorferiferon> hey
[03-Oct-2008 14:59:50] **dorferiferon> sorry, i was afk
[03-Oct-2008 15:00:47] **dorferiferon> i do not know about changing the default port.
[03-Oct-2008 15:01:03] **dorferiferon> can you connect to it on 8080?
[03-Oct-2008 15:33:49] **raddy> par : i managed to install Zenoss finally
[03-Oct-2008 15:44:09] **per> were Eric Newton @?
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[03-Oct-2008 16:24:27] **kotique> hey guys. I need to regenerate interface's information for a device. I've changed interface type and speed. How do I tell zenoss to do it ? It's using old one.
[03-Oct-2008 16:27:21] **diatonic> Hey all, hoping someone can help me. I have Zenoss core 2.2.3 running in a virtual machine on VMware ESX 3.5. I had an issue with the clock racing about 6 hours fast. Got that resolved. Now zenhub won't run, or even produce any log entries. It's on CentOS 5. Thoughts?
[03-Oct-2008 16:27:44] **kotique> diatonic, wait another 6 hr
[03-Oct-2008 16:28:08] **diatonic> think that is the problem?
[03-Oct-2008 16:35:34] **diatonic> kotique - thanks
[03-Oct-2008 16:35:52] **kotique> ;-)
[03-Oct-2008 16:38:14] **kotique> uhh it's calling remodeling
[03-Oct-2008 16:38:20] **kotique> uhh it's called remodeling
[03-Oct-2008 23:28:54] **justizin> i've got zenoss set up with a simple http monitor using the stack deb on ubuntu, and i'm trying to figure out the simplest way to verify that it's doing anything. created a graph from the http monitor data source, it has like, a blip in it, and then nothing for a few minutes. following http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[03-Oct-2008 23:29:01] **adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Oct-2008 23:31:06] **justizin> do i need to adjust an interval on my collector(s) ? in my performance template?
[03-Oct-2008 23:34:43] **justizin> hm, looks like it. i guess HttpMonitor uses an external process, so the 'process interval' affects it. lessee if that does it.
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[04-Oct-2008 01:12:52] **justizin> alright, i have data coming in via snmp, but everything is in 5min intervals. in some cases, i want more often - what can i do?
[04-Oct-2008 01:14:36] **dorferiferon> anyone know the answer to that one, and another with data typing being an integer interpreted by zenoss as string?
[04-Oct-2008 01:15:12] **dorferiferon> please someone help me. my lighttpd connections show as millions and I know they are in the 250-300's
[04-Oct-2008 01:22:05] **justizin> how do you have zenoss monitoring lighttpd?
[04-Oct-2008 01:22:12] **justizin> 'lighttpd zenoss' doesnt come up with a lot
[04-Oct-2008 01:23:30] **justizin> in google, that is.
[04-Oct-2008 01:43:44] **dorferiferon> i have an script... gimme a sec...
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:13] **dorferiferon> output from script:
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:29] **dorferiferon> snmpwalk -c -v1 constatic1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:29] **dorferiferon> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1 = STRING: 114
[04-Oct-2008 01:47:48] **dorferiferon> dunno how to output it as an integer.
[04-Oct-2008 01:50:25] **dorferiferon> any cluez?
[04-Oct-2008 02:10:19] **justizin> well, you probably want some python code to parse that, but why not just use zenoss' snmp code, instead of wrapping snmpwalk?
[04-Oct-2008 02:10:31] **justizin> dorferiferon:
[04-Oct-2008 02:11:00] **justizin> sorry, i was poking at my own zenoss.. not able to see usage peak from backups and other maintenance running in 5min intervals. :/
[04-Oct-2008 02:11:31] **justizin> i'm touching snmp every 30s, but it doesn't seem to matter here or with http monitor, all graphs are in 5min blocks
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:42] **dorferiferon> just so you know., i think i fixed my script for lighttpd
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> [root@constatic1 snmp]# cat lighttpd-con.sh
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> #!/bin/bash
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> echo "1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1"
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> echo integer
[04-Oct-2008 02:19:44] **dorferiferon> echo `netstat -anp | grep lighttpd | grep ESTABLISHED | wc -l`
[04-Oct-2008 02:20:49] **dorferiferon> snmpwalk -c jcommunitname -v1 constatic1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1
[04-Oct-2008 02:20:49] **dorferiferon> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extIndex.1 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:21] **dorferiferon> oops
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:23] **dorferiferon> hit
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> [root@monitor ~]# snmpwalk -c commname -v1 constatic1 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1 = STRING: 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> integer
[04-Oct-2008 02:21:33] **dorferiferon> 145
[04-Oct-2008 07:58:34] **justizin> i sent my load average around 60.0 and my graphs don't show more than 40, though i am polling snmp every 30s and 60ish load avg held for 2-3min easy. how can i increase the accuracy of my graphs?
[04-Oct-2008 07:58:51] **justizin> it seems at least that my rrd files or whatever have accurate data and can be better graphed later
[04-Oct-2008 08:00:01] **justizin> i did manage to reduce my idle cpu from avg / max of 364 / 396 to 0% :-D
[04-Oct-2008 09:04:42] **Han> dorferiferon1, echo `echo hello`
[04-Oct-2008 09:04:59] **Han> Rather redundant, don't you think? :-)
[04-Oct-2008 11:56:10] **raddy> per : are you there?
[04-Oct-2008 13:55:08] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[04-Oct-2008 14:25:44] **raddy> Anybody there?
[04-Oct-2008 19:21:42] **justizin> so, i'm still trying to figure out how to graph at smaller intervals than 5min, i've self inflicted a bunch of short-term problems which don't look nearly as bad on the graph as they were.. i'd be way appreciative of a little guidance.
[04-Oct-2008 19:22:29] **evil-lw> can rrdtool even do <5 min?
[04-Oct-2008 19:36:40] **MrTux> it can, but you have to rewrite many lines of code
[04-Oct-2008 19:36:52] **MrTux> justizin: for doin' so, write your own collector
[04-Oct-2008 19:37:18] **justizin> hm.
[04-Oct-2008 19:37:28] **justizin> sounds like fun!
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[05-Oct-2008 00:41:43] **evil-lw> so any hints on as to why no clear messages get generated from a zenoss install?
[05-Oct-2008 03:47:25] **raddy> Anybody there????
[05-Oct-2008 03:49:00] **evil-lw> my guess is no
[05-Oct-2008 03:54:24] **raddy> evil-lw : are you using ZenOSS?
[05-Oct-2008 03:55:19] **evil-lw> raddy: yes
[05-Oct-2008 03:55:46] **raddy> evil-lw : are you using Tomcat?
[05-Oct-2008 03:56:26] **evil-lw> what woudl tomcat have to do with zenoss?
[05-Oct-2008 04:55:40] **justizin> hm, i configured OSProcess monitors for httpd and mysqld, but Zenoss doesn't see mysqld, though I see a mysqld child of safe_mysqld
[05-Oct-2008 04:56:10] **justizin> what's interesting is that the httpd monitor changed its' name, i think, from 'httpd' to '/usr/sbin/httpd', though its' zope id is actually usr_sbin_httpd
[05-Oct-2008 04:56:45] **justizin> i tried renaming the mysqld like this, but it isn't working. i can't tell if it only wants to autodiscover the full path like that, or if it only accepts /usr/bin /usr/sbin and not /usr/libexec where mysqld lives, though i'm not sure it should..
[05-Oct-2008 04:57:12] **justizin> evil-lw: i think raddy was asking if anyone knew about monitoring tomcat with zenoss
[05-Oct-2008 05:27:28] **justizin> well, the march goes on.
[05-Oct-2008 06:38:19] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[05-Oct-2008 16:37:32] **justizin> mornin' folks. i added a new device last night, a centos5 machine which i set up the same as my RHEL5 machine. logs show SNMP connects, but I have no perf graphs - any ideas?
[05-Oct-2008 23:32:51] **justizin> hm, it seems like the ZenPack for squid is trying to pull SNMP data from the main snmpd, while squid runs its' own snmp on another port. any idea how this might be dealt with?
[05-Oct-2008 23:57:03] **justizin> ah, i need to proxy it, duh..
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[06-Oct-2008 02:49:40] **evil-lw> so regaring my issue with elerts, i found a ticket 3622 in trac stating the same thing, however i can't find anything in the source or the diff from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4 or to trunk that indicates it could be the culperate, at least in zenevents
[06-Oct-2008 06:45:44] **raddy> Anybody out there?
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[06-Oct-2008 12:21:55] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[06-Oct-2008 14:15:00] **kotique> is it possible to have server in 2 classes ?
[06-Oct-2008 14:15:19] **kotique> can I have templates in groups/systems ?
[06-Oct-2008 14:21:24] **nemo2> no, no
[06-Oct-2008 14:21:29] **nemo2> as far as i know
[06-Oct-2008 15:10:48] **kotique> zenoss doesn't send emails on events :/
[06-Oct-2008 15:12:12] **nemo2> looks like someone is not reading the docs
[06-Oct-2008 15:12:19] **nemo2> and hasnt set up any alerts
[06-Oct-2008 15:15:19] **iprone_> Hello everyone...I had a question about maintenance window troubleshooting. We have a few maintenance windows setup, non-overlapping, but the devices which are associated with those windows are never going into the Maintenance state. I also never see a mention of the window in the zenactions.log. I tried running zenactions manually last night and noticed that the window did kick in, but it just seems that they won't run automatic
[06-Oct-2008 15:15:34] **kotique> uh , it was disabled
[06-Oct-2008 15:16:39] **nemo2> iprone_, is zenactions running ?
[06-Oct-2008 15:16:52] **nemo2> zenactions status as user zenoss ( i presume )
[06-Oct-2008 15:17:19] **iprone_> Yes, I do see entries in the zenactions.log and get a "program running: pid=" response when I issue the status as you just mentioned
[06-Oct-2008 15:17:47] **nemo2> perhaps its actually lying
[06-Oct-2008 15:18:03] **nemo2> try stopping, killing ( if neccesary ) ,and restarting
[06-Oct-2008 15:18:19] **nemo2> and then look at the log, preferably near a maint window.
[06-Oct-2008 15:18:57] **iprone_> Ok...I'll do that now and setup a new maintenance window around this time period. I've done an entire service restart as part of the troubleshooting...but not simply restarting zenaction.
[06-Oct-2008 15:19:23] **nemo2> well if thats where you see an issue, restarting the rest of zenoss wont matter
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:27] **nemo2> iprone_, i see issues when using the restart script
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:32] **iprone_> I'm assuming restarting the entire service would restart zenaction and hopefully would have fixed any zenaction specific process issue, otherwise I have to worry zenaction isn't performing its duty after a server restart without monitoring it out of band somehow.
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:36] **iprone_> Got ya
[06-Oct-2008 15:20:58] **nemo2> i tend to use a "clean" script, that stops,kills off straggling processes and starts again
[06-Oct-2008 15:25:46] **kotique> hey guys, how do I change hostname parameter zenoss is running on ? It's showing default hostname in emails, I want to change this.
[06-Oct-2008 15:27:46] **nemo2> iprone_, i havnt messed with windows, but perhaps you need zenstatus and not zenactions ( zenactions are performed in response to an alarm, like missing sshd ? )
[06-Oct-2008 15:27:56] **kotique> zopeurl
[06-Oct-2008 15:28:28] **kotique> damn, where do I change zopeurl ?
)[06-Oct-2008 15:30:04] **nemo2> tried googling on that ?
[06-Oct-2008 15:30:20] **nemo2> its zope specific, not zenoss in particular
[06-Oct-2008 15:57:46] **kotique> yeaa, it's zopeurl parameter in zopeactions' config file
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[06-Oct-2008 16:44:39] **iprone_> nemo2, you must have been correct, because now I am seeing it work, zenaction has an entry "DEBUG zen.Schedule: Maintenance window starting Test for Offline Backup Test" and I see the server from that group in Maintenance...so I'll do as you do, and create a wrapper script that'll handle making sure zenoss actually restarts properly next time...thanks for the help.
[06-Oct-2008 16:45:38] **nemo2> np. kool
[06-Oct-2008 17:34:56] **dorferiferon> This is a test.\
[06-Oct-2008 17:51:34] **justizin> so, over the weekend someone said that to have a higher resolution than 5min average for values plotted in rrdtool graphs, i'd have to write a new collector. i'm poking around a bit in the DataCollector product, but would appreciate any pointers as to what the limitation is.
[06-Oct-2008 17:53:34] **justizin> i see that in zenmodeler.py, it appears the data is written to rrds, but seems to be nothing about intervals.
[06-Oct-2008 17:54:15] * justizin wonders if it is how the data is written to rrd files, or how, or how often, rrdtool is invoked, since the data points seem more normalized than event log entry timestamps
[06-Oct-2008 18:01:02] **nemo2> justizin, did you read the docs ?
[06-Oct-2008 18:01:19] **nemo2> cycle time settings sounds like what your interested in
[06-Oct-2008 18:02:34] **Whitor> Hi. I just installed the ZenOSS virtual machine. I am logged in as root... but I cannot seem to locate the web login information. how do I reset this as root ?
[06-Oct-2008 18:03:21] **justizin> i adjusted cycle time settings a bit, i am polling snmp every 30s, but if during a 5min period the load goes up from 0.3 to 1.2 to 2.5 to 3.6 and onward up to 12.6 or so, i'm lucky to see a spike at 7.0 in my graphs
[06-Oct-2008 18:03:41] **justizin> the zenoss graphs of uptime look exactly the same as the system's 5min avg, so either zenoss or rrdtool is averaging the 10 values i pull every 5min.
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:20] **justizin> it would be awesome if there was a numeric value i could tweak somewhere, but someone i talked to recently said i'd have to create my own (or a modified) collector. i'm not afraid of writing code, but it's a bit to take in all at once.
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:30] **justizin> nemo2, thanks, btw
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:41] **justizin> Whitor: it's in the web ui under settings -> users
[06-Oct-2008 18:05:53] **justizin> initial login should be created as zenoss / zenoss
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:08] **justizin> or, that's how the stack installer works at least, not 100% sure about the vm.
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:14] **Whitor> justizin, Thats what I'm trying to log into ... I cant get into the Web ui w/o a username and pass
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:19] **Whitor> ahh
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:28] **Whitor> zenoss is what I was looking for
[06-Oct-2008 18:06:55] **Whitor> justizin, zenoss / zenoss didn't work
[06-Oct-2008 18:07:02] **justizin> read docs for the image, it should tell you
[06-Oct-2008 18:07:32] **Whitor> With the image are no docs ... been combing the web for 20+ minutes now
[06-Oct-2008 18:07:45] **justizin> otherwise, you can find the location of the 'zenoss' dir with Products/ and ZenPacks/ in it, and run, as user zenoss, bin/zopectl adduser username password
[06-Oct-2008 18:08:14] **justizin> Zenoss is based on Zope, and uses standardy default authentication
[06-Oct-2008 18:10:23] **justizin> you should still, once you get logged in, go in and check that there isn't a default user which might expose your system to someone else.
[06-Oct-2008 18:12:20] **Whitor> as root, can I change the password for the user zenoss ?
[06-Oct-2008 18:13:10] **cgibbons> initial login is admin / zenoss, not zenoss / zenoss
[06-Oct-2008 18:13:35] **Whitor> Oh Thank you thank you cgibbons
[06-Oct-2008 18:13:47] **Whitor> Poorly documented this...
[06-Oct-2008 18:14:32] **justizin> Whitor: as root, you can change identity to another user. you shouldn't do everything as root, at the very least because you modify files other user accounts should have access to, and may make a common non-root task require root. common bad habit.
[06-Oct-2008 18:14:57] **justizin> so, e.g., you could have sudo -u zenoss to run the command i gave, but sure, if admin/zenoss get you in, you can go and change it in web ui.
[06-Oct-2008 18:15:18] **Whitor> of course ... But I will run as root if it allows me to reset a password.... but... thanks to cgibbons, there is no need anymore
[06-Oct-2008 18:15:45] **justizin> Whitor: running Zenoss as root can break it, so you should use root access to sudo -u zenoss.
[06-Oct-2008 18:15:55] **justizin> just warning you against an issue i ran into recently.
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:03] **cgibbons> Whitor: in Friday's internal demo our new doc writer made a point of showing how the username/password default is much more obvious in the doc, not that it helps you now
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:16] **justizin> cgibbons: har
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:30] **justizin> why not publish draft documentation?
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:38] **cgibbons> we do
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:45] **justizin> oh
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:46] **Whitor> cgibbons, there are no docs that come with the Virtual machine downloadable from VMWare's site
[06-Oct-2008 18:16:49] **justizin> yeh i suppose it's still too late ;d
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:16] **Whitor> and the vmware site gives the root / nopass login for console access
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:27] **Whitor> not the webui pass
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:44] **krphop> there is no console anymore
[06-Oct-2008 18:17:55] **Whitor> there should be a startup / info doc with the VM
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:03] **krphop> vmware 2.0 now uses just a web interface
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:24] **Whitor> not just the two vmx / vmdk files
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:32] **cgibbons> There's certainly http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs to look at...
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:44] **adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:48] **justizin> and a ton of useful info there, too, cgibbons
[06-Oct-2008 18:18:49] **Whitor> krphop, you still have console access with Vmware 2.0 ... that is what I'm running
[06-Oct-2008 18:19:11] **krphop> maybe i just have an outdated console that doenst work with 2.0 then, lol
[06-Oct-2008 18:20:22] **cgibbons> i think you two might be talking about different things. Whitor is talking about shell access no? and krphop you're talking about the VMware management interface?
[06-Oct-2008 18:20:44] **krphop> o
[06-Oct-2008 18:21:10] **krphop> err yeah, that makes sense now, i'm just way to tired
[06-Oct-2008 18:21:30] **Whitor> the management interface for vmware is strictly Web based now
[06-Oct-2008 18:21:41] **krphop> thats what i ment
[06-Oct-2008 18:23:15] **Whitor> ya, vmware works great. Didn't like the web administration interface at forst... but it seems to work ok
[06-Oct-2008 18:24:26] **krphop> its a bit slow, i definetly dont like how they removed/changed most of the command line utilities though
[06-Oct-2008 18:26:13] * justizin prefer parallels on osx, but trying to move dev vms to xen on rhel5 box
[06-Oct-2008 18:27:01] **justizin> you are talking about esx, eh? i have heard some interesting things but can't imagine depending on a commercial solution to run linux dev vms on a linux box ;d
[06-Oct-2008 18:27:15] **krphop> given you dont need cross platform, im a fan of openvz
[06-Oct-2008 18:27:33] **krphop> most people hate me for liking container based virt, but its pretty fast
[06-Oct-2008 18:30:58] **justizin> sounds reasonable enough. i also need a windows vm, though..
[06-Oct-2008 18:31:14] **krphop> kvm?
[06-Oct-2008 18:31:25] **krphop> esxi works ok, its got some hitches
[06-Oct-2008 18:32:04] **justizin> xen should be able to listen for vnc to get through install, and then i can use rdp, but it's poorly documented, should be better in rhel6 from what i read..
[06-Oct-2008 18:32:30] **krphop> rhel6 is including xen?
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:08] **justizin> rhel5 includes xen, but you have to add a channel
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:18] **justizin> it is, however, not 100% supported
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:41] **justizin> rhel6 will have a new system alongside xen, both configured via libvirt with compatible images, but the new system only works on cpus with virtualization extensions..
[06-Oct-2008 18:33:54] **justizin> supposed to be much lighter weight and much better for power savings than paravirt like xen
[06-Oct-2008 18:34:09] **justizin> and xen will still be there.
[06-Oct-2008 18:47:24] **kgoedtel1> i was at the red hat 2008 road tour and they made it pretty obvious they don't plan to support xen post RHEL5 in favor of kvm
[06-Oct-2008 18:47:59] **kgoedtel1> other than it 'being available'
[06-Oct-2008 18:48:04] **kgoedtel1> but not recommended
[06-Oct-2008 18:49:51] **kotique> better they include VZ
[06-Oct-2008 18:49:54] **kgoedtel1> but yeah, they will both be compatible with libvirt and all the virt mgr tools
[06-Oct-2008 19:08:57] **justizin> kgoedtel1: yesh, but that's no change from its' current status.
[06-Oct-2008 19:09:37] **justizin> in that it's available, if you can get access to your RHN profile, and ill documented
[06-Oct-2008 19:10:03] **justizin> since both will use libvirt, it seems to follow that libvirt docs will improve.
[06-Oct-2008 19:10:18] **justizin> currently the documentation pretty much only tells you how to use a gui tool that is very stubborn about running over ssh.
[06-Oct-2008 19:10:38] **justizin> the cmdline tools have to be explored and googled for threads on
[06-Oct-2008 19:14:43] **kgoedtel1> true
[06-Oct-2008 19:15:14] **kgoedtel1> the documentation is actually wrong in quite a few places
[06-Oct-2008 19:15:40] **kgoedtel1> we run everything on xen here and a lot of the learning was just trial and error because of said poor documentation
[06-Oct-2008 19:16:59] **justizin> yah the #rhel channel on freenode has been helpful
[06-Oct-2008 19:17:07] **justizin> i found some tuts and whatnot, just, yanno, it's in "the pile" :-P
[06-Oct-2008 19:24:11] **Whitor> Can someone recommend a good resource for reading about how to use zenoss ?
[06-Oct-2008 19:24:41] **justizin> i usually just google "zenoss" with other words related to what i want to do
[06-Oct-2008 19:26:16] **Whitor> trying to login to the Rpath Appliance platform now
[06-Oct-2008 19:29:16] **Whitor> lol, trying to find the user/pass for the rpath appliance login, The first link I click on has the user/pass for default install of the VM Zenoss . Exactly what I was trying to find before
[06-Oct-2008 19:30:11] **justizin> rpath probably has docs online
[06-Oct-2008 19:30:20] **justizin> there is some mention of appliance differences in community docs
[06-Oct-2008 19:32:44] **Whitor> found it.... admin / password
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[06-Oct-2008 19:41:51] **justizin> is it possible to run zenhubs as peers for redundancy, e.g. so that if one machine goes down, the other can continue monitoring?
[06-Oct-2008 19:42:36] **justizin> looking at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[06-Oct-2008 19:42:42] **adytum-bot> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Oct-2008 19:43:28] **iprone_> Hello again...I was curious to know if there's a way to debug Zenoss and find out why a snmp process match is failing. For example, I have a process regex for "java -" and what's being matched to that process is "/bin/sh" (ignore parameters set to true). It almost seems like the process list is escaping a character somewhere and causing this mismatch to occur.
[06-Oct-2008 19:47:21] **iprone_> well...as long as i sat here debating whether to post that...i just answered my own question.../bin/sh is the first part of a process in which "java -" is listed, its just not being shown.
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[07-Oct-2008 13:13:52] **mshundal> ola, anyone know of how to supress the /status/wmi/conn messages?
[07-Oct-2008 13:14:14] **mshundal> or even downgrade the severity
[07-Oct-2008 13:44:04] **|-Rkoz-|> i was reading through some chat logs last night and i found an article that started to describe how to disable snmp monitoring....can't find it now but i want to do some ping only tests and could use someone to point me in the correct direction
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:16] **mshundal> easy
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:33] **mshundal> go to zproperties of the device class you want to ping only
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:37] **mshundal> and disable it there
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:39] **mshundal> OR
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:41] **mshundal> best yet
[07-Oct-2008 14:01:50] **mshundal> move these devices to class /ping
[07-Oct-2008 14:34:19] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[07-Oct-2008 14:34:29] **raddy> Anybody out there???
[07-Oct-2008 14:35:11] **bazinski> yip, hi raddy
[07-Oct-2008 14:35:37] **raddy> bazinski : Hi
[07-Oct-2008 14:36:15] **raddy> bazinski : can you explian me how to use this example http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/ch15s02.html
[07-Oct-2008 14:36:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Oct-2008 14:37:46] **bazinski> old on let me pull it up, in south africa, and our internet is !#@$!@#$!@#$ slow
[07-Oct-2008 14:37:51] **raddy> bazinski : my doubt is, where to specify real value in (here/manageIp)
[07-Oct-2008 14:38:37] **raddy> bazinski : in Device template or in Custom Schema of the device?
[07-Oct-2008 14:41:32] **|-Rkoz-|> mshundal: Thanks for the response. I also found when I add a device, i can change "discovery protocol" to none....but thank you again
[07-Oct-2008 14:42:54] **bazinski> raddy: good question ;-)
[07-Oct-2008 14:44:37] **bazinski> raddy: device template
[07-Oct-2008 14:45:38] **mshundal> np
[07-Oct-2008 14:46:05] **mshundal> raddy: aye this needs to be done per device; reason i scrapped it in favor of another product
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:03] **raddy> bazinski : i see vi in httpd apache class
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:08] **raddy> bazinski
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:25] **sstringham> Hello, I am trying to set up a memory leak detection setup in zenoss. I go into the process I am monitoring, into template, create a local copy of OSprocess, and add a threshold. Is "150M" a good maximum value, or should it be "150000"?
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:29] **raddy> bazinski : but i am not able to see it in ps
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:50] **raddy> bazinski : what it would be?
[07-Oct-2008 14:47:54] **sstringham> I can't seem to get it to generate an event.
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:19] **d1nker> http://pastebin.com/m5ce18281
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:26] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:27] **d1nker> can someone tell me how to get rid of these errors
[07-Oct-2008 14:58:53] **d1nker> I can't seem to find anything on google or the zenoss forum
[07-Oct-2008 14:59:03] **d1nker> CentOS 5.2 and rpm 2.2.4 install
[07-Oct-2008 14:59:49] **raddy> bazinski : can we able to monitor tomcat presence/absence via ZenOSS
[07-Oct-2008 15:07:38] **sstringham> okay, so I got it to generate an alert when memory is exceeded like I wanted. Is there a way to monitor any instance of this OSprocess' memory usage, rather than on a per-device setup?
[07-Oct-2008 15:08:31] **bazinski> raddy: of course, its just a process like any other
[07-Oct-2008 15:09:05] **raddy> bazinski : little complicated, a Java process
[07-Oct-2008 15:09:30] **raddy> bazinski : Tomcat is not correctly detecting it
[07-Oct-2008 15:10:48] **sstringham> raddy: you should be able to monitor it either as an IPService, or as a process.
[07-Oct-2008 15:11:19] **raddy> sstringham : can help in IPService method?
[07-Oct-2008 15:12:53] **sstringham> I can point, probably not "help"
[07-Oct-2008 15:13:02] **sstringham> But in zport/dmd/Services/IpService , create a new IpService
[07-Oct-2008 15:13:57] **sstringham> Call it Tomcat. Click on the new link at top of the list, edit, set the port, send string and expect regexp.
[07-Oct-2008 15:14:41] **sstringham> That is about it.
[07-Oct-2008 15:15:52] **raddy> sstringham : wowww
[07-Oct-2008 15:38:28] **cgibbons> tada
[07-Oct-2008 15:43:46] **mshundal> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Terrorist+And+Disrupted+Activities+Act+(India)
[07-Oct-2008 15:43:53] **adytum-bot> Title: Terrorist And Disrupted Activities Act (India - What does Terrorist And Disrupted Activities Act (India stand for? Acronyms and abbreviations by the Free Online Dictionary. (at acronyms.thefreedictionary.com)
[07-Oct-2008 16:17:22] **evil-lw> can somebody provide me an example alerting rule that they recieve clears messages with?
[07-Oct-2008 17:47:37] **cr03> So, anybody use cmd and snmp simultaneously? Seems like even though there's a lot of overlap in the info you get back, it might be advantageous to create a custom class that does both for my linux hosts.
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[07-Oct-2008 18:40:24] **bbentley> Is there any way to access other Performance Data Sources from a Performance Data Source Command?
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[07-Oct-2008 21:53:39] **Demerzel> hello folks
[07-Oct-2008 21:55:09] **Demerzel> got a quick question for those in the know ... i'm playing with zenoss core running on centos5 and have just discovered a network. However I'm not sure it used the right snmp read-only community string. all the hosts i've looked at so far all seem to be complaining about snmp being down probably for the same reason. where would i go to set up the global snmp read-only community string?
[07-Oct-2008 21:57:54] **Demerzel> anyone?
[07-Oct-2008 21:58:22] **therealnemo> my advice is read the answer
[07-Oct-2008 21:58:57] **therealnemo> people dont answer you because you will be back in 2 secs with another question from the next chapter in the manual
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:37] **Demerzel>
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:40] **therealnemo> read the manual** doh
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:41] **therealnemo> tired
[07-Oct-2008 21:59:51] **Demerzel> i've combed the manual as best as i can
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:02] **therealnemo> find another profession maybe
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:06] **therealnemo> its a big world
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:11] **Demerzel> zenoss administration etc
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:22] **Demerzel> i haven't found any info on global snmp community strings unfortunately
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:43] **therealnemo> ok, heres a clue, but really this is my parting gift to you
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:43] **Demerzel> look .. if you're not interested in actually providing any answesr, please be quiet
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:55] **therealnemo> ok i will be quiet
[07-Oct-2008 22:00:58] **therealnemo> good luck
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:03] **Demerzel> i come on these channels to get and provide answers
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:07] **Demerzel> not to be lectured
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:22] **therealnemo> kool ,carry on i will be quiet, good luck.
[07-Oct-2008 22:01:34] **Demerzel> wow
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:09] **Demerzel> nice
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:25] **Demerzel> found the answer
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:44] **therealnemo> xan i be uniquet now ?
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:46] **therealnemo> can
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:51] **therealnemo> unqiet ..
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:55] **Demerzel> i suppose
[07-Oct-2008 22:07:57] **therealnemo> yeh you know what i mean
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:01] **Demerzel> just try to be helpful
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:05] **Demerzel>
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:06] **therealnemo> i am glad you found the answer yourself.
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:10] **therealnemo> its a healthy thing
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:17] **Demerzel> *sigh*
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:20] **therealnemo> and its the corner stone of how zenoss works
[07-Oct-2008 22:08:56] **therealnemo> lol
[07-Oct-2008 22:09:24] **Demerzel> i don't appreciate the condescension
[07-Oct-2008 22:09:46] **therealnemo> ok
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:04] **Demerzel> i've been evaluating monitoring ~8 different monitoring products over the past few weeks and every one has different ways of doing things
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:20] **Demerzel> the zenoss administration guide isn't the most friendly text
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:28] **therealnemo> i agree entirely
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:47] **Demerzel> i've written monitoring products from scratch and know my way around systems with absolute comfort
[07-Oct-2008 22:10:58] **Demerzel> so when i turn to humans to answer a question it's after lots of research
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:08] **therealnemo> quit whining you tard
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:14] **Demerzel> and i expect a human to help out the same way i'd help others
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:26] **therealnemo> you want me to work for you and answer a basic noob question
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:32] **Demerzel> no
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:39] **therealnemo> well if it wasnt the 100th time i might be interested
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:39] **Demerzel> if it's a basic noob question it's not work is it?
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:53] **Demerzel> just making a point that's all
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:53] **therealnemo> you are zero to me
[07-Oct-2008 22:11:57] **therealnemo> i owe you zip
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:01] **Demerzel> agreed
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:04] **therealnemo> so dont claim what isnt yours
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:08] **Demerzel> and i don't owe you anything either
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:15] **therealnemo> i was just aboutto tell you it was zproperties you needed
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:32] **Demerzel> but then neither do the zenoss guys who've made their product open source .. for what?
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:37] **Demerzel> i know it was a zproperty
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:38] **therealnemo> but you were being pissy so i left you to it , a capable guy like you used google and suddenly found the answer
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:44] **Demerzel> sicne i'd set it on an individual device
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:48] **Demerzel> but not on a global level
[07-Oct-2008 22:12:50] **therealnemo> after "combing" the manual
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:08] **Demerzel> hardly google ...
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:11] **Demerzel> i found human help
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:18] **Demerzel> google's surprisingly short on detail about zenoss
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:19] **therealnemo> i find you offensive
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:25] **therealnemo> i dont want you to talk to me any more
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:30] **therealnemo> i am putting you on ignore
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:32] **Demerzel> ok
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:43] **Demerzel> checking ignore status
[07-Oct-2008 22:13:46] **Demerzel> :-P
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:09] **daMaestro> is there any way to turn off zenwin monitoring of windows device?
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:14] **daMaestro> devices*
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:25] **daMaestro> i'd like to just use snmp, not zenwin
[07-Oct-2008 23:22:55] **daMaestro> is it zWinEventlog ?
[07-Oct-2008 23:23:15] **daMaestro> ah, it is
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[08-Oct-2008 00:17:01] **rhett> hello, any one know what is causing the following error when i try to send a test message?: Test failed: socket.gaierror - (-2, \'Name or service not known\')
[08-Oct-2008 00:51:04] **evil-lw> so i've finally figured out why i'm not getting clear messages
[08-Oct-2008 00:51:09] **evil-lw> evid's don't match
[08-Oct-2008 01:04:36] **cr03> Demerzel: If you're still having problems pulling data from your snmp daemons, use the snmpwalk command to test them independent of ZenOSS.
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[08-Oct-2008 02:53:54] **evil-lw> the evid's do not match, but the select to find objects to alert on expects history and alert_status to actually have the same bloody evid
[08-Oct-2008 03:36:53] **evil-lw> found my problem, old events db schema
[08-Oct-2008 03:37:00] **evil-lw> it only took two weeks or so....
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[08-Oct-2008 05:00:59] **raddy> Anybody there?
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[08-Oct-2008 06:10:52] **raddy> Hi npmccallum
[08-Oct-2008 11:56:54] **raddy> Anybody there?
[08-Oct-2008 12:20:23] **npmccallum> raddy: yup
[08-Oct-2008 14:14:29] **mshundal> fgh
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[08-Oct-2008 16:40:26] **nemo_> anyone here monitoring tftp as a service, if so how ?
[08-Oct-2008 19:03:58] **boingolov> say for instance I wanted zenoss to ignore filesystem full messages for /cdrom for example
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:02] **boingolov> what would be the easiest way to do that?
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:31] **therealnemo> zproperties->map ignore
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:35] **therealnemo> on the device class
[08-Oct-2008 19:04:38] **therealnemo> es
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:09] **therealnemo> might be fs map ignore, or similar
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:26] **boingolov> great, I see that
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:27] **boingolov> thank you
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:35] **therealnemo> your welcome
[08-Oct-2008 19:05:46] **therealnemo> dont spose you monitor a tftp service ?
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:08] **boingolov> not at the moment, no
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:13] **therealnemo> i am trying to find others doing it in zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:28] **therealnemo> might have to do it by ssh , was hoping not
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:42] **therealnemo> it exists in services->ipservices
[08-Oct-2008 19:06:43] **boingolov> we're about to set up a server for doing netbooting , but I'm not sure we'll care enough about it to monitor. it will only be for initial server installs so if it goes down, no big deal
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:08] **therealnemo> but it doesnt get detected with the 2 ip services collectors
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:26] **therealnemo> ours has been down before and that made us care
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:31] **boingolov> haha
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:41] **boingolov> tftp uses udp, right?
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:45] **therealnemo> yup
[08-Oct-2008 19:07:47] **therealnemo> 69
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:18] **therealnemo> id really like to do it the zenoss way
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:26] **therealnemo> i dont want ssh scripts checking everything
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:28] **therealnemo> if poss
[08-Oct-2008 19:08:34] **boingolov> I guess that makes it slightly hard to monitor at least on the connection level, whatever is doing the monitoring would have to be at least somewhat protocol aware
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:07] **therealnemo> yeh i can see the issue, but i am a positive person
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:19] **therealnemo> hoping someone else did it on zenoss before me
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:25] **boingolov> wouldn't be too hard though to possibly write a simple script to try to download a known small file and return status
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:48] **therealnemo> yeh i know, i guess i could just run a script straight on the zenoss master
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:52] **boingolov> the script would just call some tftp client program in that case
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:58] **boingolov> yeah, that's what I'm thinking
[08-Oct-2008 19:09:58] **therealnemo> and have it raise an event through REST
[08-Oct-2008 19:10:34] **therealnemo> i think thats ok , cus its all on zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 19:10:40] **therealnemo> and will survive an upgrade
[08-Oct-2008 19:24:26] **boingolov> later, good luck
[08-Oct-2008 19:24:28] **boingolov> thanks again
[08-Oct-2008 19:27:32] **kgoedtel1> also wtf is this sound port thing on it
[08-Oct-2008 19:27:38] **kgoedtel1> oops mistell
[08-Oct-2008 19:31:31] **mshundal> lol mistell
[08-Oct-2008 19:31:32] **mshundal> wow
[08-Oct-2008 19:32:57] **kgoedtel1> was referring to what i found out to be SPDIF on this video card i just got haha
[08-Oct-2008 19:33:17] **kgoedtel1> for hdmi out
[08-Oct-2008 19:57:34] **EricL> I am having a tough time getting through the install process (and I am using RPMs). I am trying to install zenoss 2.2.4.el5_x86_64
[08-Oct-2008 19:58:01] **EricL> On CentOS 5.2
[08-Oct-2008 19:58:19] **rhett> what issues are you having
[08-Oct-2008 19:58:24] **EricL> The install doc is missing a lot of installs deps and I found all of them except zeoctl
[08-Oct-2008 20:04:03] **EricL> I get zeoctl not found when I try to start with the /etc/init.d/zenoss .
[08-Oct-2008 20:05:53] **rhett> is zeoctl in /opt/zenoss/bin/ ?
[08-Oct-2008 20:07:22] **rhett> you could also do an 'updatedb' and then 'locate zeoctl'
[08-Oct-2008 20:10:23] **therealnemo> EricL, sounds like it didnt install properly
[08-Oct-2008 20:10:51] **therealnemo> personally i would start again, make sure theres no root password on your mysql server\
[08-Oct-2008 21:28:31] **EricL> rhett: There is no zeoctl when I do a locate.
[08-Oct-2008 21:28:56] **rhett> id appears therealnemo was on the right track and your install is fubared
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:06] **EricL> Hmmm, I installed using the rpm.
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:11] **EricL> I reinstalled twice.
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:19] **rhett> hm
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:23] **EricL> (Did an rpm -e first though)
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:27] **EricL> I'll try for a third time.
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:28] **rhett> rpm -e zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:33] **rhett> rm -rf /opt/zenoss
[08-Oct-2008 21:30:58] **rhett> make sure you have mysql mysql server and gmp installed
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:03] **rhett> mysql-server
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:15] **rhett> are you installing as root?
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:23] **EricL> rhett: They are and yes.
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:27] **rhett> or sudo?
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:29] **rhett> k
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:30] **rhett> odd
[08-Oct-2008 21:31:50] **EricL> Nope root
[08-Oct-2008 21:32:05] **rhett> hm
[08-Oct-2008 21:32:29] **rhett> i literally finished installed the 64 2.2.4 rpm on a centos 5.2 vm about an hour ago
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:13] **rhett> and i've covered the basics of what i have done w/ all the installations ive done
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:24] **EricL> Let me try deleting the user and starting completely from scratch.
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:39] **EricL> I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
[08-Oct-2008 21:33:46] **EricL> Thanks for the help.
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[08-Oct-2008 22:52:23] **dfranco> hello all
[08-Oct-2008 23:00:30] **rhett> hello
[08-Oct-2008 23:10:27] **dfranco> this is very quiet
[08-Oct-2008 23:12:40] **rhett> yes
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[09-Oct-2008 00:58:42] **mistat> Hello, anyone else having issues with Zenoss 2.2.4 not adding devices?
[09-Oct-2008 01:00:04] **perr> not really did you follow the directions
[09-Oct-2008 01:00:57] **mistat> I was using 2.2.3 fine (CentOS5.2) and uninstalled it. Then I installed 2.2.4, and since have had issues adding devices.
[09-Oct-2008 01:01:08] **mistat> according to the mailing list, a few others have had issues too
[09-Oct-2008 01:01:18] **mistat> thought I'd drop past here to see if anyone has found a solution
[09-Oct-2008 01:01:59] **perr> looks like you wont have a definitive answer til thursday
[09-Oct-2008 01:02:13] **perr> did you check the forums also
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[09-Oct-2008 06:17:50] **uwe> hello, i have a device that i can reach with ping (among other tests) but zenoss is not updating it and insists its status is down, modeling is not helping and its been reachable for a while ( a couple of days now!!)
[09-Oct-2008 06:17:54] **uwe> what can i do ?
[09-Oct-2008 07:26:03] **raddy> Hello Everynbody
[09-Oct-2008 07:26:09] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[09-Oct-2008 10:12:36] **thrope> hi - is it possible to use kerberos for user authentication in the web client with zenoss?
[09-Oct-2008 10:20:24] **nemo_> if you can use it with zope yes
[09-Oct-2008 10:20:31] **nemo_> zenoss runs on a zope server
[09-Oct-2008 10:20:47] **thrope> ok - I'm having trouble finding any information but I have asked in the zope channel
[09-Oct-2008 10:22:18] **nemo_> i doubt anyone here can answer, but good luck
[09-Oct-2008 10:24:18] **thrope> do you know how zenoss works by default? cgi, fastcgi, mod_proxy?
[09-Oct-2008 10:26:11] **thrope> looks like I can use a "remote user folder" and let apache authenticate (http auth) through the apache kerberos module
[09-Oct-2008 10:26:15] **thrope> hopefully :|
[09-Oct-2008 10:27:17] **nemo_> good luck with that
[09-Oct-2008 10:27:20] **nemo_> brave man
[09-Oct-2008 10:28:46] **thrope> i don't suppose you know if zenoss has an option like "auto add users" - apparently plone does
[09-Oct-2008 10:57:17] **lpe> Regarding migration from nagios to zenoss I got two questions for you lot: 1) can you add different users to be able to logon the webinterface and see the host and specify wich host one can view? 2) does it come with some kind of languagepack, (see swedish)?
[09-Oct-2008 10:59:26] **lpe> we're selling surveillance at the time of writing using nagios, but the webinterface only comes in english, but it is possible to make a user view only his machine(s)
[09-Oct-2008 11:03:43] **MrTux> lpe: for the specialised views you need the enterprise version...
[09-Oct-2008 11:05:22] **lpe> that's sad
[09-Oct-2008 11:23:20] **nemo_> i use ent
[09-Oct-2008 11:23:37] **nemo_> i know views are there, not sure if it does multiple languages
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:24] **lpe> I've been searching for an answer, but it seems I'm failing
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:40] **lpe> aint there a way for you to see if it's possible?
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:46] **nemo_> not really
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:53] **lpe> blast
[09-Oct-2008 11:24:54] **nemo_> i got a job and i do work for them
[09-Oct-2008 11:25:35] **lpe> well obviously
[09-Oct-2008 11:26:45] **nemo_> lol
[09-Oct-2008 14:37:17] **soetesti> Can anybody help me to get the 'zenPath' via REST request?
[09-Oct-2008 14:38:04] **soetesti> zenPath like /usr/local/zenoss
[09-Oct-2008 15:01:59] **mrayzenoss> Good morning everybody.
[09-Oct-2008 15:02:07] **mrayzenoss> And good afternoon if you're in Europe
[09-Oct-2008 15:03:46] **mrayzenoss> Wow, kinda quiet. I guess everyone's happy with their Zenoss install
[09-Oct-2008 15:03:55] **__ian__> Sweet. I'm taking the day off.
[09-Oct-2008 15:04:07] **mrayzenoss> Anybody going to Ohio LinuxFest this weekend?
[09-Oct-2008 15:12:51] **chadwick> there we go
[09-Oct-2008 15:13:50] **nemo_> lol
[09-Oct-2008 15:14:17] **nemo_> plenty of euros here mrayzenoss
[09-Oct-2008 15:16:01] **zzaflemi> Test.......
[09-Oct-2008 15:16:31] **chadwick> nice and quiet this morning
[09-Oct-2008 15:17:01] **zzaflemi> I've got a question I think then
[09-Oct-2008 15:17:07] **chadwick> woohoo
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:00] **zzaflemi> lol, In the list of interfaces on the OS tab I have noticed that there is the green/red dot for Operationally and Administratively up or down
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:16] **zzaflemi> those only seem to get updated when I remodel the device
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:47] **chadwick> right
[09-Oct-2008 15:18:56] **zzaflemi> since the snmppref runs every 5 mins to get stats would it be possible to have it check interface status when that is running and update it
[09-Oct-2008 15:19:54] **zzaflemi> I never really saw it as an issue, but our helpdesk manager got confused and asked about it.
[09-Oct-2008 15:20:14] **chadwick> it'll change of course when modeling auto-runs
[09-Oct-2008 15:20:42] **chadwick> that's come up before, let me double check with peeps to see if there is a reason it doesn't collect that oid with the perf data
[09-Oct-2008 15:21:18] **zzaflemi> well the system uptime is updated each time the stats are pulled even tho that is on a different tab of the device, which is why I asked.
[09-Oct-2008 15:21:24] **chadwick> *nod*
[09-Oct-2008 15:22:52] **zzaflemi> Should I open an enhancement request for that to track finding more out about the issue/changes needed?
[09-Oct-2008 15:23:57] **chadwick> i've got that question down and i can follow up with you, and then we can open one up if there isn't already one for it or a good reason?
[09-Oct-2008 15:24:06] **chadwick> (looking through the code / talking to peeps not)
[09-Oct-2008 15:24:34] **zzaflemi> *nod*
[09-Oct-2008 15:25:21] **boingolov> after I add an MIB file I notice that it doesn't start translating the messages until I restart zenoss . I'm reasonably sure this isn't necessary, is there a specific daemon I could restart or some more graceful way of handling this?
[09-Oct-2008 15:26:19] **chadwick> i would think zenevent or zope but let me check
[09-Oct-2008 15:27:00] **zzaflemi> I'm not one of the devs, but I just restating zentrap seems to work for me when I add a MIB
[09-Oct-2008 15:30:18] **boingolov> thanks
[09-Oct-2008 15:30:20] **boingolov> I will try that
[09-Oct-2008 15:34:30] **zzaflemi> chadwich I guess my e-mail address would help for following up on the Interface status question. afleming@kanren.net
[09-Oct-2008 15:34:40] **chadwick> ok cool, got it
[09-Oct-2008 15:39:17] **zzaflemi> Does anyone know of any good articles or postings about pulling the route tables via SSH? I've got 8 backbone routers which are Foundry and have a full Internet 1 and Internet 2 routing table. Using SSH and a plugin seems like the best way and maybe the only way to pull in the Local and OSPF route entries since the routing table is so big.
[09-Oct-2008 15:41:27] **chadwick> article meaning how you'd do it using a ssh datasource within zenoss?
[09-Oct-2008 15:42:01] **chadwick> and would you actually want to be pulling routes out of the data to put into the zenoss model?
[09-Oct-2008 15:42:59] **zzaflemi> well there is not much info in the administrators guide about using SSH. I found one plugin for getting the routing table via SSH, but not had any luck getting it to even connect to the router when I run a model yet
[09-Oct-2008 15:44:31] **zzaflemi> These routers have oh about 200K route entries via BGP, but our OSPF routes for the network are about 300. And I have to populate the route entries for the devices for the layer 3 dependancy checking to work right in Zenoss. (If I could just manually define a "parent host" or dependancies it would not be necessary.)
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:00] **monrad> zzaflemi: well it could get kinda boring with lots of hosts
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:37] **monrad> and tricky with ring topologys
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:38] **zzaflemi> I don't understand boring with lots of hosts?
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:46] **monrad> to do it manual
[09-Oct-2008 15:45:49] **zzaflemi> oh manually defining dependancies
[09-Oct-2008 15:46:02] **zzaflemi> yea, but we have to right now with Nagios so its not any worse
[09-Oct-2008 15:46:29] **monrad> are they xmr,mlxs or something older?
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:22] **zzaflemi> and it actually seems like more work to manually create transform rules for layer 2 dependancies then it would be to add all of them manually into a field on each device
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:23] **monrad> we run a few xmr's and hp's (rebranded bigirons)
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:34] **zzaflemi> The foundries are XMRs
[09-Oct-2008 15:47:58] **zzaflemi> Foundry Networks, Inc. NetIron XMR, IronWare Version V3.7.0cT163 Compiled on Mar 18 2008 at 13:59:23 labeled as V3.7.00c
[09-Oct-2008 15:48:31] **monrad> those are nice
[09-Oct-2008 15:49:21] **zzaflemi> yea except my problem is since they form the backbone ring I have to something about adding route entries to them for the dependancy checking (and thus maintenance windows) to work right
[09-Oct-2008 15:49:56] **chadwick> have you looked at the standard plugins that do ssh right now, zzaflemi?
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:07] **zzaflemi> And with with some pop moves that have happened the routing enviroment is not the cleanest and would need to add most of the 300 OSPF routes we have to all 8 of them
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:20] **muppethouse> here is a way to manually create a device dependency
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:22] **muppethouse> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-a-device-dependency/
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:37] **adytum-bot> Title: Create a device dependency - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Oct-2008 15:50:57] **zzaflemi> yea I've found that before, but that might be more work then adding the route entries manually to be honest.
[09-Oct-2008 15:51:18] **zzaflemi> so what do you mean by the standard SSH plugins I guess?
[09-Oct-2008 15:52:28] **chadwick> like linux2.py and darwin.py in zenplugins/zenoss/plugins - they do basic command execution for linux & darwin servers, might be a good model to use as a template
[09-Oct-2008 15:52:58] **zzaflemi> Ok, now I follow, I haven't used them yet but have found them.
[09-Oct-2008 15:53:56] **zzaflemi> What I already see in my list of plugins (maybe from one of the zen packs) is an OspfRouteMap and StaticRouteMap that are ssh based.
[09-Oct-2008 15:54:29] **zzaflemi> just have not been able to make them actually work, but I'll try the linux ones on a linux host then to see if I can get any of them to work
[09-Oct-2008 16:00:15] **mrayzenoss> Well, this has been a nice quiet session, I have to drop off for another meeting. chadwick will stick around for a bit
[09-Oct-2008 16:00:23] **chadwick> yup
[09-Oct-2008 16:15:42] **rhett> for my darwin boxes, is there a way to not have /dev be part of the usage thresholds? i also have a similar issue w/ TUN interfaces on routers and zenoss spitting out utilization overage events since these interfaces do not have a speed tied to them.
[09-Oct-2008 16:27:41] **boingolov> rhett, you can set that as a zProperties for the class, zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:03] **rhett> boingolov: thats what i thought, i added /dev into there but i still get events
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:07] **rhett> do i have to remodel the devices?
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:21] **boingolov> you should be able to push changes
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:41] **boingolov> I _think_ that will get it
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:49] **rhett> hm
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:50] **rhett> k
[09-Oct-2008 16:29:52] **rhett> i didnt do that
[09-Oct-2008 16:35:01] **rhett> hm, that didnt appear to work
[09-Oct-2008 16:35:24] **rhett> pushed the changes, moved the events to history and they just came back
[09-Oct-2008 16:46:20] **boingolov> zenmodeler run --path=/Devices/Server/Whatever --collect=HRFileSystemMap
[09-Oct-2008 16:46:21] **boingolov> that might work
[09-Oct-2008 16:46:30] **boingolov> should remodel all of them in one swoop
[09-Oct-2008 16:58:57] **therealnemo> score boingolov
[09-Oct-2008 18:56:56] **texasthunder> hi guys
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:04] **rhett> hi
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:09] **texasthunder> how do limit the number of days i see in event console?
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:28] **texasthunder> right now its going back about a month i think
[09-Oct-2008 18:57:43] **texasthunder> new and acked
[09-Oct-2008 20:22:51] **sstringham> Man, I am having some odd problems with the disk-io collector setup on my RedHat machines. Some work, some say the OID is bad. Both are using the same script to generate the oids (parsing /proc/diskstats)
[09-Oct-2008 20:24:26] **sstringham> I am trying to use the setup outlined here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=21604#21604
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[10-Oct-2008 05:57:14] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[10-Oct-2008 05:58:09] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[10-Oct-2008 05:58:29] **raddy> How to monitor incoming connections via Zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 06:57:42] **raddy> Anybody out there???
[10-Oct-2008 11:13:08] **Yotus> Hello, Is there any way to define which links should be visible on the Google Map between the Locations I've defined?
[10-Oct-2008 12:31:36] **Yotus> As far as I can read the links between the locations/devices is determined using layer 3 routing information. How far in the development process are Zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 12:43:46] **nemo_> basic issue i have seen, if you dont have snmp etc on all routers etc
[10-Oct-2008 12:44:03] **nemo_> then zenoss doesnt know your net work topology
[10-Oct-2008 12:44:39] **nemo_> are you getting warnings of device xxx not in topology ?
[10-Oct-2008 12:45:46] **Yotus> No ..
[10-Oct-2008 12:46:23] **monrad> or if you have routers with large feeds
[10-Oct-2008 12:46:54] **Yotus> Well, we have snmp on all our routers and switches, but i'm just not that interested in seing the layer 3 link information, i would much rather want the layer 2 (or 1) link ..
[10-Oct-2008 12:47:42] **Yotus> Just a manual low tech solution of the relationsships would satisfy me atm
[10-Oct-2008 12:47:49] **nemo_> so go for it
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:00] **nemo_> you can put that info in by hand i believe
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:12] **nemo_> but i am waiting to get it all automatically
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:50] **monrad> i think they are working on layer2
[10-Oct-2008 12:48:57] **Yotus> Well, i've approx. 1400 devices i would off course love to see it automatically.. but manual could be ok
[10-Oct-2008 12:50:30] **Yotus> i've seen a use test of layer 2 in dev version in Products/ZenModel/tests/testLinking.py .. so I hope that they work on it =)
[10-Oct-2008 15:04:46] **boingolov> is there a way with zensyslog to filter the severity of a specific host? say for instnace I have one box that's overly chatty, sends lots of "info" level stuff to the syslog and I don't have the option to tune it at the remote end
[10-Oct-2008 15:05:24] **boingolov> failing that, is there an easy way to switch the default "Event Console" view severity filter from Info to Warning
[10-Oct-2008 15:36:54] **nemo_> boingolov, tranforms
[10-Oct-2008 15:38:18] **boingolov> nemo_, will look into it
[10-Oct-2008 15:38:18] **boingolov> thanks
[10-Oct-2008 15:39:55] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[10-Oct-2008 15:41:48] **raddy> Is it possible monitor number of incoming network connections to a device?
[10-Oct-2008 15:52:50] **raddy> Anybody there???
[10-Oct-2008 16:01:11] **dorferiferon> raddy: you can do it through remote commands, or I like to call a script from snmpd as an exec scriptname.sh
[10-Oct-2008 16:02:05] **raddy> dorferiferon : so, not directly via ZenOSS data sources?
[10-Oct-2008 16:02:45] **dorferiferon> i am not sure. i use it for specific questions, and that is not very specific.
[10-Oct-2008 16:03:10] **dorferiferon> there are some connection counters in the ucd-snmp mib
[10-Oct-2008 16:03:55] **raddy> dorferiferon : do you have any experience with Zabbix?
[10-Oct-2008 16:04:24] **dorferiferon> what is Zabbix?
[10-Oct-2008 16:04:52] **dorferiferon> (obviously not)
[10-Oct-2008 16:04:54] **rhett> another monitoring solution
[10-Oct-2008 16:06:42] **dorferiferon> i use nagios as welll as zenoss... how do you like Zabbix>
[10-Oct-2008 16:06:43] **dorferiferon> ?
[10-Oct-2008 16:08:26] **raddy> dorferiferon : zabbix is like Zenoss, not like Nagios
[10-Oct-2008 16:08:56] **raddy> dorferiferon : are you pro in Nagios?
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:01] **dorferiferon> i am looking at it now.
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:06] **dorferiferon> ~
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:17] **dorferiferon> i get it to do what i want...
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:29] **dorferiferon> i would not call myself a pro though.
[10-Oct-2008 16:09:50] **raddy> dorferiferon : Ohhh
[10-Oct-2008 16:10:28] **dorferiferon> raddy: did you need some help/have a question i could help you with?
[10-Oct-2008 16:10:42] **raddy> dorferiferon : what i like about Zabbix is it's lesser memory usage
[10-Oct-2008 16:11:06] **dorferiferon> faster than zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 16:14:04] **raddy> dorferiferon : i dunno whether it is faster but occupies lesser amount of memory
[10-Oct-2008 16:14:51] **dorferiferon> ne sec
[10-Oct-2008 16:15:00] **dorferiferon> s/one/ne
[10-Oct-2008 16:15:59] **raddy> Is it possible to monitor application response times in Zenoss?
[10-Oct-2008 16:25:29] **dorferiferon> raddy: you can set up actions to check almost anything. i currently monitor 30 hosts for much more than just resource utilization.
[10-Oct-2008 16:26:20] **raddy> dorferiferon : one more thing, i am currently monitoring Tomcat and Apache
[10-Oct-2008 16:26:36] **dorferiferon> i extended snmp for checking # of processes's running on web sservers (like httpd)
[10-Oct-2008 16:27:07] **raddy> dorferiferon : is ZenOSS capable of running a set of commands if some process stops
[10-Oct-2008 16:28:00] **raddy> dorferiferon : i also interested in having something like graphed top
[10-Oct-2008 16:28:23] **raddy> dorferiferon : no idea how to achieve it though
[10-Oct-2008 16:28:24] **dorferiferon> raddy: if tomcat will give you the output you can use a script called from snmp on the machine you are monitoring and run graphs. i have not delved into the management on that yet. i check for some processes remotely from my monitoring server and stop/start stuff that is running that way.
[10-Oct-2008 16:29:14] **dorferiferon> raddy: there is probably a script you could develop and call from snmp
[10-Oct-2008 16:29:22] **raddy> dorferiferon : i am currently detecting Tomcat's existence via monitoring it's port
[10-Oct-2008 16:29:37] **raddy> dorferiferon : ohhh okk
[10-Oct-2008 16:30:24] **raddy> dorferiferon : will Zenactions help me in restarting it if it is crashed?
[10-Oct-2008 16:31:08] **dorferiferon> raddy: i am not sure
[10-Oct-2008 16:31:22] **raddy> dorferiferon : ohhh okk
[10-Oct-2008 16:33:40] **dorferiferon> i have not delved into zenactions as much as some other people. i am using it for graphing more than anything else.
[10-Oct-2008 16:34:13] **dorferiferon> raddy: i should put some effort into that though.
[10-Oct-2008 16:34:43] **dorferiferon> raddy: and when all the fires die down to simply coals....
[10-Oct-2008 17:25:11] **therealnemo> http://h214010.upc-h.chello.nl/zenzebra.jpg
[10-Oct-2008 17:27:14] **rhett> its dead
[10-Oct-2008 17:27:30] **therealnemo> someone murdered it
[10-Oct-2008 19:30:17] **perr0> http://www.vimeo.com/1891426
[10-Oct-2008 19:30:27] **adytum-bot> Title: Obama '08 - Vote For Hope on Vimeo (at www.vimeo.com)
[10-Oct-2008 21:44:23] **jwagner__> hey guys
[10-Oct-2008 21:45:16] **rhett> ok
[10-Oct-2008 21:47:24] jwagner__ is now known as wag
[10-Oct-2008 21:47:33] **wag> bah.... I care not to come up with a nice nick
[10-Oct-2008 21:51:31] **rhett> they're irrelevant anyway
[10-Oct-2008 22:37:30] **rhett> how can i make the details of an snmp trap be sent in a message
[10-Oct-2008 22:38:12] **rhett> i can see how to add things on the fields page, but i am unsure how to for the details. would i add the oid to the message template?
[10-Oct-2008 22:57:33] **omar> are these my nerves or zenoss-2.2.4 have some problems when clicking the left top pad to add New Organizer....
[10-Oct-2008 22:58:36] **rhett> i havnt had an issue myself
[10-Oct-2008 22:59:00] **omar> using zenoss-2.2.4 ?
[10-Oct-2008 22:59:15] **rhett> correct
[10-Oct-2008 23:00:17] **omar> then I will re-install mine.... maybe I missed something....
[10-Oct-2008 23:00:23] **omar> let me try again.....
[10-Oct-2008 23:00:46] **rhett> i will double check right now though
[10-Oct-2008 23:01:12] **rhett> what is happenign for you?
[10-Oct-2008 23:01:32] **rhett> i just added /Devices/test w/ no problem
[10-Oct-2008 23:02:25] **omar> f.e. I want to add a new Group.. then click Group.... then click left pad at Sub-Groups
[10-Oct-2008 23:02:40] **omar> but it does not display any menu....
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:12] **omar> I have this problem in most options
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:19] **rhett> h
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:19] **rhett> m
[10-Oct-2008 23:03:31] **rhett> nope, i havnt seen that one on the two boxes i upgraded to 2.2.4
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:03] **omar> you upgraded from 2.1.3 ?
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:03] **rhett> http://cgi.4chan.org/s/src/1223656858240.png haha
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:08] **rhett> oh damnit
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:24] **rhett> this is not the right window to repost a link
[10-Oct-2008 23:04:30] **rhett> omar: yes
[10-Oct-2008 23:05:42] **omar> did you have any trouble migrating your data backup from zenoss 2.1.3 to 2.2.4 ?
[10-Oct-2008 23:06:20] **rhett> the one time i tried, no, but that was only a test
[10-Oct-2008 23:06:39] **rhett> wait sorry, mis read though you asked if migrating back to 2.1.3
[10-Oct-2008 23:07:00] **rhett> no i didnt have an issue going from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4 w/ the backup
[10-Oct-2008 23:07:33] **omar> so you just used zenbackup at 2.1.3 and zenrestore at 2.2.4 ?
[10-Oct-2008 23:08:00] **rhett> actually everything ijust said is moot. i went from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4
[10-Oct-2008 23:08:15] **omar> haha... ok.
[10-Oct-2008 23:10:20] **omar> 'cause I am about to jump off from this building going from 2.1.3 to 2.2.4...
[10-Oct-2008 23:11:19] **rhett> suckage
[10-Oct-2008 23:11:36] **rhett> i am sorry i couldnt be of any help
[10-Oct-2008 23:12:44] **omar> nevermind... I needed a second thought anyway
[10-Oct-2008 23:13:47] **omar> I will have my round 13 with this upgrade.... breathin' deep
[10-Oct-2008 23:13:55] **omar> see ya' aroun'
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[11-Oct-2008 05:20:17] **littlebayer> anyone in here?
[11-Oct-2008 17:48:36] **thrope> hi - im getting an event /Cmd/Fail - Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/ - Code: 126 - Msg: Command invoked cannot execute, permissions problem or command is not an
[11-Oct-2008 17:48:43] **thrope> but how can I tell where that is coming from
[11-Oct-2008 17:48:53] **thrope> ie i've no idea what monitoring is failing
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[12-Oct-2008 02:31:44] **perr> zenoss support sucks
[12-Oct-2008 02:31:51] **perr> straight up
[12-Oct-2008 12:02:01] **raddy> Anybody there???
[12-Oct-2008 12:06:11] **raddy> I added Process and File System Templates to my Linux based device
[12-Oct-2008 12:06:40] **raddy> But the graphs are not getting drawn
[12-Oct-2008 12:06:54] **raddy> nemo2 : can you help me?
[12-Oct-2008 13:33:25] **raddy> Anybody there
[12-Oct-2008 13:35:47] **raddy> I added Process and File System templates to my linux device
[12-Oct-2008 13:36:04] **raddy> But the graph is not getting drawn
[12-Oct-2008 13:36:16] **raddy> Can anybody help me/
[12-Oct-2008 13:41:12] **nemo2> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=14709#14709
[12-Oct-2008 13:41:29] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - binding device and filesystem templates results in error (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-Oct-2008 13:41:39] **nemo2> if you spent the same amount of time using google that you keep just asking here you can solve your own probs
[12-Oct-2008 13:41:54] **nemo2> i just got that from google so you might be quiet
[12-Oct-2008 13:43:13] **raddy> nemo2 : yeah
[12-Oct-2008 13:49:13] **thrope> i am running into a problem described here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6131&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
[12-Oct-2008 13:49:27] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Manually added Interface IP Address (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-Oct-2008 13:49:28] **thrope> when I manually add an ip address - it ignores the cidr I set and defaults to /24
[12-Oct-2008 13:49:45] **thrope> just thought I'd check if anyone had any ideas
[12-Oct-2008 13:51:27] **nemo2> i suggest you give a patch if you can
[12-Oct-2008 13:52:08] **thrope> I've no idea where to start really
[12-Oct-2008 13:57:39] **nemo2> you mention roll out, if you are using ent version i am sure they would take care of that for you
[12-Oct-2008 13:57:47] **nemo2> just get in touch with your rep
[12-Oct-2008 13:58:56] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[12-Oct-2008 13:59:15] **thrope> nemo2: free version unfortunately
[12-Oct-2008 13:59:52] **thrope> nemo2: if I get something up and running I will try to persuade my boss to buy the extras for exchange and stuff... but I'm always suspicious when theres no prices on the web site
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:24] **thrope> its only a small business - but we do IT support so have alot of remote sites to monitor
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:25] **raddy> Why can't i change the flag to Monitor for a service?
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:44] **thrope> so if theres no price on website it pretty much means its too expensive for us
[12-Oct-2008 14:00:54] **raddy> I am in /os/ipservices/tcp_
[12-Oct-2008 14:02:51] **raddy> I am not able to enable a IP Service?
[12-Oct-2008 14:03:28] **raddy> I am in /devices/devicename/os/ipservices/tcp_port
[12-Oct-2008 14:04:27] **nemo2> thrope, in which case your org should get into python and make a patch
[12-Oct-2008 14:04:48] **raddy> nemo2 : can you help me?
[12-Oct-2008 14:04:53] **nemo2> raddy, no
[12-Oct-2008 14:05:15] **nemo2> because you will be back each second with a new problem for me
[12-Oct-2008 14:05:27] **nemo2> invest your time in learning raddy
[12-Oct-2008 14:08:48] **raddy> namo2 : I have invested much time in it, i had found a guide helping, but it has a changeable field, but in my end, there is no such a field
[12-Oct-2008 14:09:59] **raddy> nemo2 : Please see this image http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/resources/servicesummary.png
[12-Oct-2008 14:10:32] **raddy> nemo2 : i don't see a field True/False field
[12-Oct-2008 14:11:18] **nemo2> raddy, come on now , you jump on me when i enter chat, i dont know the answer to all your problems and the more you hassle me the less interested i get
[12-Oct-2008 14:11:40] **raddy> nemo2 : sorry
[12-Oct-2008 14:12:03] **raddy> thrope : are you there?
[12-Oct-2008 19:25:08] **snowgod> hey guys, I'm trying to install ZenOSS to perform basic service monitoring (IpService) against several devices that don't use snmp. I've tried modifying the collectors of the device, but is there any way to stop it from raising errors that the SNMP agent is unavailable?
[12-Oct-2008 19:26:26] **nemo2> zproperties->zsnmpignore or something like that ?
[12-Oct-2008 19:26:31] **nemo2> for the class of the device
[12-Oct-2008 19:26:53] **nemo2> and of course no snmp collectors on that class
[12-Oct-2008 19:27:02] **nemo2> just ip service collectors
[12-Oct-2008 19:27:44] **snowgod> ah, didn't see the zproperty for snmpignore
[12-Oct-2008 19:27:51] **snowgod> bet that will do the trick
[12-Oct-2008 19:36:24] **nemo2> should do
[12-Oct-2008 19:44:56] **snowgod> yep - that got it. Thanks for the pointer, that was a bit of a rookie oversight
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[13-Oct-2008 07:07:17] **raddy> Anybody there??
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:15] **thrope> hi - I'm trying to fix something in zenoss but I'm unfamiliar with the code base
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:26] **thrope> is there a way to put some debugging in while I poke around
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:31] **thrope> to get an idea how things work
[13-Oct-2008 08:07:39] **thrope> ie can I print stuff to a log somewhere
[13-Oct-2008 10:55:15] **thrope> is anyoen familiar with the ip parts of the zenmodel
[13-Oct-2008 10:55:20] **thrope> i am making some customisations
[13-Oct-2008 10:55:30] **thrope> and could do with some advice
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:35] **raddy> thrope : i think i can help you
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:45] **thrope> hi
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:55] **raddy> thrope : hi
[13-Oct-2008 11:54:59] **thrope> I have made some changes and have everything network wise working as I want
[13-Oct-2008 11:55:08] **thrope> but the google maps thing is broken - throughing a key error
[13-Oct-2008 11:55:22] **thrope> the changes I made are: allow duplicate ip's (don't check for duplicates if the netmask is /16)
[13-Oct-2008 11:55:49] **thrope> and in createNet I always start at netroot instead of netobj because I found it was nesting subnets inapprorpaitely
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:25] **thrope> but now as soon as a device is added to a location (even one without an address) I get a key error on a subnet
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:30] **raddy> thrope : You seems talking about stuff above my knowledge, sorry
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:33] **thrope> in the google maps dashboard display
[13-Oct-2008 11:56:41] **thrope> oh ok
[13-Oct-2008 11:57:51] **raddy> thrope : can you help me instead, a very little
[13-Oct-2008 11:58:06] **thrope> i can try
[13-Oct-2008 11:59:33] **raddy> I have added IP monitor to ping web site for response times via httpmonitor zen pack
[13-Oct-2008 12:00:51] **raddy> thrope : Graph is getting drawn well
[13-Oct-2008 12:01:09] **raddy> thrope : it shows M for time.
[13-Oct-2008 12:01:41] **thrope> ive never used httpmonitor
[13-Oct-2008 12:02:25] **raddy> thrope : leave httpmonitor
[13-Oct-2008 12:02:41] **thrope> what is the problem you are having?
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:06] **raddy> thrope : in all the graphs you see m for time, what it means, minutes ? microseconds ?
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:23] **thrope> no idea
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:27] **thrope> I would guess minutes
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:40] **thrope> microseconds is usually abbre with greek mu
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:42] **raddy> thrope : ohh
[13-Oct-2008 12:03:52] **thrope> but you should think which makes more sense
[13-Oct-2008 12:04:35] **thrope> what exactly do you mean?
[13-Oct-2008 12:04:46] **thrope> on the time axis the numbers are 1M 2M etc?
[13-Oct-2008 12:04:58] **thrope> i think that means milliseconds (which would be sensible for ping times0
[13-Oct-2008 12:05:15] **raddy> thrope : i can't imagine my websites are beaing loaded 27 minutes n'all
[13-Oct-2008 12:05:15] **thrope> just think about it... do the ping by hand and see the result - compare it to what is on the graph and you should get a good idea
[13-Oct-2008 12:05:50] **raddy> thrope : good idea
[13-Oct-2008 12:07:56] **raddy> thrope : i am getting cur: 9.23m avg: 27.74m etc for website loading
[13-Oct-2008 12:16:48] **thrope> does anyone know a way to run zendmd with ipython?
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:31] **raddy> thrope : do you know the abbrievation for MIB in ZenOSS?
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:43] **raddy> thrope : what is it?
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:49] **thrope> no
[13-Oct-2008 12:29:53] **thrope> MIB is an abbreviation
[13-Oct-2008 12:30:01] **thrope> so I odnt know what you mean
[13-Oct-2008 12:31:27] **raddy> thrope : wikipedia is really great, MIB is Management Information Base, used by SNMP
[13-Oct-2008 12:31:47] **raddy> thrope : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_Information_Base
[13-Oct-2008 13:39:11] **thrope> can anyone tell me how to access the zope interface in a zenoss install?
[13-Oct-2008 15:22:47] **raddy> Anybody there?
[13-Oct-2008 15:24:34] **raddy> Hi sn1ffer72
[13-Oct-2008 15:24:58] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : are you using ZenOSS to monitor performance?
[13-Oct-2008 15:26:56] **sn1ffer72> performance such as what?
[13-Oct-2008 15:27:03] **sn1ffer72> network usage?
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:12] **sn1ffer72> I logged on today hoping someone can answer why when discoverying windows boxes it cannot properly find these values
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:13] **sn1ffer72> ssportaladmin.onecommunications.com
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:16] **sn1ffer72> oops
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:17] **sn1ffer72>
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:22] **sn1ffer72> memoryPagesPerSec .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:27] **sn1ffer72> memoryAvailableBytes .1.3.6.1.3.1.9600.1.1.2.2.0
[13-Oct-2008 15:28:33] **sn1ffer72> cpuPercentProcessorTime .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.8
[13-Oct-2008 15:29:26] **sn1ffer72> snmp is turned on
[13-Oct-2008 15:32:29] **sn1ffer72> Ah.. I see the windows box does not respond to that OID..
[13-Oct-2008 15:32:40] **sn1ffer72> does anyone know the equiv OIDs in windows world?
[13-Oct-2008 15:36:35] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : What that m that is displayed in graphs? Minutes, Milliseconds?
[13-Oct-2008 15:38:40] **sn1ffer72> which graph?
[13-Oct-2008 15:39:58] **sn1ffer72> if it is referring to free resources it most likely is M = MB
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:02] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : HttpMonitor graph, CPU Utilization graph
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:27] **sn1ffer72> httpmonitor most likely is referring to ms
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:33] **sn1ffer72> milliseconds
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:48] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : ohhh, thank you
[13-Oct-2008 15:40:52] **sn1ffer72> cuz it would be useless to graph http response that last more than 1 min
[13-Oct-2008 15:41:26] **raddy> okk cool
[13-Oct-2008 15:41:44] **raddy> what is m in process cpu utilization?
[13-Oct-2008 15:42:23] **sn1ffer72> not sure.. I have having issues obtaining that value
[13-Oct-2008 15:42:43] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : from Windows Boxes?
[13-Oct-2008 15:43:34] **sn1ffer72> yeah
[13-Oct-2008 15:43:46] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : Is it possible dismiss Status Notification for certain processes?
[13-Oct-2008 15:44:29] **sn1ffer72> you mean as in.. not show those silly WMI error messages?
[13-Oct-2008 15:44:41] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : did you try disabling Firewall in Windows box?
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:07] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : not exactly, i am talking about processes
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:48] **sn1ffer72> you should be able to go into
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:50] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : i have created some of the processes just to monitor it's performance, not for monitoring it's status
[13-Oct-2008 15:45:58] **sn1ffer72> /Classes/Processes/zProperties
[13-Oct-2008 15:46:15] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : yeahhh
[13-Oct-2008 15:46:42] **sn1ffer72> then just toggle one of those to False
[13-Oct-2008 15:47:19] **sn1ffer72> I am spending my day today trying to figure out
[13-Oct-2008 15:47:25] **raddy> sn1ffer72 : BUT graph would be still drawn right?
[13-Oct-2008 15:47:29] **sn1ffer72> how to collect on 1 oid an graph it
[13-Oct-2008 16:10:43] **sn1ffer72> I see the hostmib has a lot to offer
[13-Oct-2008 16:10:45] **sn1ffer72> http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs_byoidtree.aspx?oid=1.3.6.1.2.1.25
[13-Oct-2008 16:10:58] **adytum-bot> Title: ipMonitor Support Portal :: Mibs (at support.ipmonitor.com)
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[14-Oct-2008 04:20:07] **Pikoro> can someone point me to a doc that explains how to map a MIB to a certain group or class of device?
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[14-Oct-2008 14:41:28] **daMaestro> anyone have issues with pings not completing in time?
[14-Oct-2008 14:43:39] **daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/7559 is what we currently have set for 238 (and adding more constantly) devices
[14-Oct-2008 14:43:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #7559 (at fpaste.org)
[14-Oct-2008 14:44:10] **daMaestro> we get occasional IP (ping) timeouts for random devices, and occasional snmp timeouts for random devices
[14-Oct-2008 14:45:25] **daMaestro> most of the time the snmp timeouts are on db servers, where there are custom OIDs that query 'SHOW STATUS'
[14-Oct-2008 15:46:49] **xtea> Is there any way to turn on SNMP bulkget in Zenoss, I have machines on the other side of high latency satellite connection and an snmpwalk takes about 27 minutes - modeling is failing as a result ?
[14-Oct-2008 15:54:19] **nemo_> nothing completes in enough time for me
[14-Oct-2008 15:54:27] **nemo_> i guess i am just inpatient daMaestro
[14-Oct-2008 15:54:51] **nemo_> i suspect your not restarting your stuff daily
[14-Oct-2008 15:55:15] **nemo_> i run a script before and after out production day to clean up processes, restart things etc
[14-Oct-2008 15:55:46] **nemo_> xtea, zenmodeller should do that for you.
[14-Oct-2008 15:56:58] **xtea> nemo_: zenmodeller timeouts at 180 seconds, however if i do snmpbulkget from the commandline i can get all the results inside 180 seconds
[14-Oct-2008 15:57:23] **xtea> nemo_: this leads me to believe that it is not happening
[14-Oct-2008 15:57:52] **nemo_> hmmmz
[14-Oct-2008 15:57:55] **nemo_> not sure then
[14-Oct-2008 15:58:22] **nemo_> i was aiming my reply to daMaestro
[14-Oct-2008 15:58:26] **nemo_> but thats kool
[14-Oct-2008 15:59:09] **daMaestro> nemo_, blah.. if the solution is to really restart zenoss.. that is poor
[14-Oct-2008 15:59:38] **nemo_> daMaestro, well what to do ..
[14-Oct-2008 15:59:47] **nemo_> you can bury you head in the sand if you want
[14-Oct-2008 16:01:03] **nemo_> but my point is that sometimes the daemons are reliable for month after month
[14-Oct-2008 16:01:11] **nemo_> not *
[14-Oct-2008 17:18:22] **daMaestro> nemo_, i understand
[14-Oct-2008 17:19:26] **texasthunder> hey guys
[14-Oct-2008 17:19:44] **daMaestro> nemo_, however, our monitoring box is a dell 2950 with 8 cores, 12GB of ram, SSD for the RRD data and 7.2k sata raid5 for the os (and zenoss). it's a dedicated box with a bonded gbit link to our network core... and it still likes to choke every once in a while with ~250 devices
[14-Oct-2008 17:20:50] **daMaestro> nemo_, it actually holds it's own pretty well. we adjusted everything to poll every minute and the rrds are very aggressive
[14-Oct-2008 17:21:05] **daMaestro> nemo_, still need to do a little tuning though
[14-Oct-2008 17:22:03] **daMaestro> hmm only 4 cores @ 2.33GHz
[14-Oct-2008 17:22:15] **daMaestro> still, should be able to power through most anything we throw at it
[14-Oct-2008 17:40:06] **texasthunder> where do i change the amount of days the event console hows?
[14-Oct-2008 17:40:14] **texasthunder> right now it goes back about a month
[14-Oct-2008 17:40:18] **texasthunder> i just need 7 days
[14-Oct-2008 17:44:52] **rhett> texasthunder: click on event manager under managment
[14-Oct-2008 17:45:18] **rhett> i think thats where you need to be
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:27] **texasthunder> ok i see at the bottom agiing threshold
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:39] **texasthunder> and default availbility report
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:46] **texasthunder> thresholdi s 4 hours
[14-Oct-2008 17:46:56] **texasthunder> availability report is 7 days
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[14-Oct-2008 18:21:19] **jcastro> hi guys, I'm looking for the zenoss people who manned the booth at ohio linuxfest?
[14-Oct-2008 18:27:46] **cgibbons> lemme ping them for you, jcastro
[14-Oct-2008 18:28:23] **jcastro> cgibbons: thank you!
[14-Oct-2008 18:42:37] **texasthunder> does anybody know when is the next time the devs will show up here?
[14-Oct-2008 18:43:58] **cgibbons> every thursday at 11am central is the normal schedule
[14-Oct-2008 18:44:15] **cgibbons> but at least one of us is here now, for better or worse
[14-Oct-2008 18:44:23] **texasthunder> great
[14-Oct-2008 18:44:41] **texasthunder> how do i limit the number of days in the event console to show ?
[14-Oct-2008 18:47:39] **npmccallum> jcastro: yo
[14-Oct-2008 18:50:39] **jcastro> npmccallum: howdy, I left your business cards in my hotel room, can you pm me your email addresses? I've got someone interested in getting the ball rolling on packaging zenoss.
[14-Oct-2008 18:51:27] **npmccallum> jcastro: you were THAT hammered? ;0
[14-Oct-2008 18:52:00] **jcastro> heh, no. I think everyone else was though
[14-Oct-2008 18:54:16] **cgibbons> texasthunder: what's your 'delete history events older than (days)' setting on the Event Manager / Edit page?
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:13] **texasthunder> 0
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:20] **texasthunder> i guess thats bad duh
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:37] **cgibbons> looks like my default here is 7
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:45] **texasthunder> ok 7 it is
[14-Oct-2008 18:55:46] **texasthunder> thanks
[14-Oct-2008 18:56:13] **cgibbons> ack it's matt!
[14-Oct-2008 18:56:45] **mrayzenoss> I heard my name
[14-Oct-2008 19:05:36] **muppethouse> I've got a quick question if there is somebody out there with experience creating custom Device Templates
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:07] **texasthunder> depends if you're using SNMP or Commands as a data source
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:14] **muppethouse> snmp
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:21] **texasthunder> i just used it today to create my first oracle checks
[14-Oct-2008 19:06:21] **muppethouse> everything is working... kinda
[14-Oct-2008 19:07:25] **muppethouse> cool. I created a template that grabs a handful of data sources from the private Riverhead MIB, all counter64, and tries to draw a nice pretty picture
[14-Oct-2008 19:08:20] **muppethouse> when I snmpget, or do the little test thing from the template section of the web interface all works just fine, I receive in a nice big integer
[14-Oct-2008 19:09:07] **muppethouse> but for some of the variables instead of taking the delta between the two samples to get a rate it looks like it is treating it as a guage rather than counter
[14-Oct-2008 19:09:19] **muppethouse> ... but they are a counter.
[14-Oct-2008 19:17:08] **boingolov> is there anywhere that the severities recognized by zensyslog are enumerated?
[14-Oct-2008 19:17:21] **boingolov> they don't seem to follow the definitions from sys/syslog.h
[14-Oct-2008 19:18:08] **boingolov> moreover, they don't seem to follow the same order. for instance, sys/syslog.h gives the most severe errors as 0, then go up in decreasing severity up until 7
[14-Oct-2008 19:18:38] **boingolov> with zenoss, I'm getting info severity stuff as severity 1
[14-Oct-2008 19:18:47] **boingolov> and more critical stuff as 4
[14-Oct-2008 19:22:20] **justizin> is it not possible to have more than one tcp monitor for a given host, for the same protocol, e.g. http, on multiple ports?
[14-Oct-2008 19:22:55] **muppethouse> justizin: yes, you can nave more than one ip service monitor
[14-Oct-2008 19:23:50] **therealnemo> boingolov, yes its an odity, why it didnt mirror unix severities is a mystery
[14-Oct-2008 19:23:56] **therealnemo> perhaps mrayzenoss
[14-Oct-2008 19:23:58] **therealnemo>
[14-Oct-2008 19:24:04] **therealnemo> knows ..
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[14-Oct-2008 19:24:19] **muppethouse> the severities are more similar to Netcool right?
[14-Oct-2008 19:24:40] **`m3> hmm i think they are just not the same as unix
[14-Oct-2008 19:24:45] **texasthunder> i've come to the conclusion zenoss is learned through time and trial/error and not documentation
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:12] **`m3> reading the code is the only true method
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:24] **justizin> muppethouse: when i add a new ipservice of type http, for another port, it removes a previously configured one
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:30] **justizin> can't even have http-alt and http
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:33] **texasthunder> for the truly gifted python master yes
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:43] **`m3> texasthunder, which isnt me :/
[14-Oct-2008 19:25:55] **texasthunder> hear hear
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:15] **`m3> why dont we have a severities at least in the right colours in the list
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:18] **muppethouse> justizin: I would go into the classes > services > IpService and make sure that there is a service defined for the ports you would like to monitor
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:27] **`m3> that way we dont have to work it out ourselves
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:40] **`m3> i asked zenoss for that directly 6 months ago
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:54] **justizin> muppethouse: well, there is already http-alt, but i know what you're talking about, i created some process classes for zeo and debian's 'apache2' process
[14-Oct-2008 19:26:59] * justizin gives it a shot
[14-Oct-2008 19:27:42] **texasthunder> does edahl ever come on here?
[14-Oct-2008 19:28:40] **muppethouse> so if you wanted to monitor a zenoss box, you may typically be running a service on 80 and 8080, so you should be able to create a new service under IpService for port 8080 and then just add it to the device.
[14-Oct-2008 19:29:36] **cgibbons> not much anymore, texasthunder
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:00] **texasthunder> I sent him an email about a certain ticket regarding email alert aggregation
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:14] **texasthunder> any chance that will happen in the next release?
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:14] **`m3> muppethouse, zenoss boxes in a cluster all connect to a hubhost
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:15] **justizin> wierd, yah, when i typed 8080 as the port into an http service i created, it changed itself to http-alt, and pointed at a location in /Services/IpService in the UI, but doesn't seem to be there..
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:27] **`m3> that includes monitoring of each node
[14-Oct-2008 19:30:39] **justizin> i see what you're saying, no big.. yah i'm monitoring zenoss and another zope on the same box, actually, at least until zenoss runs in a newer zope.
[14-Oct-2008 19:33:06] **muppethouse> I don't see http-alt defined on my install - looked under the registered subclass of ipservice.
[14-Oct-2008 19:33:07] **cgibbons> which ticket # was it, texasthunder?
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:03] **justizin> yah it came up in auto-complete.. wierd..
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:43] **justizin> should i be creating new service classes at IpService level, or under Registered?
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:54] **justizin> does it matter? I assume it's acquisition based..
[14-Oct-2008 19:34:56] **texasthunder> cgibbons i'll look it up
[14-Oct-2008 19:36:22] **justizin> i tried to add a new service into the Registered container, and it doesn't have an option to input the port.. do i need to follow some convention? i see the edit form is different for existing items.
[14-Oct-2008 19:36:37] **muppethouse> justizin: I don't know, but I suspect it just has to do with your own organizational choices. I suspect since it is auto completing there is already a port 8080 defined in Registered. Maybe it builds these lists from /etc/services at install - I'm not sure.
[14-Oct-2008 19:36:54] **justizin> right on, i'll continue exploring. thanks
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:36] **justizin> yah tried to call my 8080 "FileMaker, inc HTTP Alt", must be from debuntu /etc/services or something
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:38] **muppethouse> it always does that - you just give the service a name first, then go in and edit it for the port you want - kinda obtuse, but there is a lot of that in Zenoss
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:55] **justizin> editing, i still don't see a port..
[14-Oct-2008 19:37:58] **muppethouse> oh, you're right
[14-Oct-2008 19:38:15] **justizin> can i add a zProperty or something?
[14-Oct-2008 19:38:44] **muppethouse> I don't see it in the zProperties. In any case you can add it at the top IpServices level
[14-Oct-2008 19:39:02] **justizin> hm ok Registered must be like "Zenoss Registered" or something.
[14-Oct-2008 19:39:38] **texasthunder> cgibbons: 1224
[14-Oct-2008 19:39:47] **cgibbons> okay let me take a look
[14-Oct-2008 19:40:09] **texasthunder> thanks, i submitted the question through the web system for edahl
[14-Oct-2008 19:41:46] **cgibbons> to give you an idea the company is big enough now there is a group that does defect reviews weekly and goes through things, so it won't always be edahl looking
[14-Oct-2008 19:41:53] **justizin> oh, i'm an idiot, i was adding ' service ' not ' ip service ' ;d
[14-Oct-2008 19:42:41] **jmp242> hey, anyone have any more info on 2.2.4 with DeviceProxy errors?
[14-Oct-2008 19:43:03] **jmp242> Such as: DeviceProxy instance has no attribute 'zWinUser'
[14-Oct-2008 19:44:24] **texasthunder> cgibbons: good, but is this a defect or an enhancement, and will it be in 2.3?
[14-Oct-2008 19:44:55] **cgibbons> it won't be in 2.3, no work has been done on it yet
[14-Oct-2008 19:45:22] **cgibbons> we're feature complete on 2.3 and doing hardening now so just bugs and the like
[14-Oct-2008 19:46:41] **texasthunder> so where or what is the status of single email alert?
[14-Oct-2008 19:46:57] **texasthunder> Cause the larger the site, the bigger the flood
[14-Oct-2008 19:48:29] **texasthunder> oh yeah how do we submit request or fixes through dev.zenoss.com?
[14-Oct-2008 19:48:33] **texasthunder> how do i get a login?
[14-Oct-2008 19:49:13] **cgibbons> that is a good question, let me ask
[14-Oct-2008 19:49:21] **cgibbons> you mean actually code patches?
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:18] **texasthunder> code patches? no i'm not close to being a coder
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:26] **texasthunder> but requesting fixes
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:29] **cgibbons> ahh!
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:37] **cgibbons> see: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket
[14-Oct-2008 19:50:43] **texasthunder> cool
[14-Oct-2008 19:51:11] **jmp242> Don't you still have to sign a form to submit code patches?
[14-Oct-2008 19:52:27] **cgibbons> not sure about that
[14-Oct-2008 19:53:01] **texasthunder> cgibbons: any word on the single email?
[14-Oct-2008 19:53:32] **cgibbons> no idea, texasthunder.
[14-Oct-2008 19:54:22] **jmp242> texasthunder: single email?
[14-Oct-2008 19:54:32] **texasthunder> oh, cause I figured I could go through transforms, but I'd rather go untangle miles of christmas lights :-$
[14-Oct-2008 19:54:45] **texasthunder> yeah 1 email instead of flood
[14-Oct-2008 19:55:59] **`m3> texasthunder, you dont have any probably where zenoss doesnt know topology
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:07] **jmp242> Had you looked at some of the mitagation strategies from the forums? I remember that if Layer 3 mapping is working
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:26] **jmp242> things behind the router etc won't alert also
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:27] **`m3> i was assured by zenoss that zenoss is smart enough to know wether a router is down or ALL of the hosts under it is down
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:46] **`m3> lol you must be my twin jmp242
[14-Oct-2008 19:56:47] **`m3>
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:02] **jmp242> I'm guessing you want layer 2 mapping though, and we're a little sol there right now
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:28] **texasthunder> well that is all nice, but i'll need to know when a db is down 400 webservers don't need to remind me that 1 db is down !
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:28] **jmp242> I do recall some posts by coders (cluther?) on manually setting up some dependancies like that
[14-Oct-2008 19:57:41] **`m3> yup i think , or i imagined the same
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:02] **`m3> i am still trying to get people to put it into the cisco templates
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:02] **texasthunder> 1 db on a multi db machine
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:24] **jmp242> I would expect you can do something with your alerting rules perhaps, I recall there was an ability to use two events to fire an alert
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:25] **`m3> texasthunder, just include it in the message ?
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:45] **jmp242> perhaps you could work it to need to not have another event to fire the alert?
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:45] **`m3> i make a transform to include the partition name in the disk usage warnings for example
[14-Oct-2008 19:58:51] **muppethouse> there is a more simple way to add dependencies (that I have not tried yet) outside of manually adding the networks and locking them
[14-Oct-2008 19:59:06] **muppethouse> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-a-device-dependency/
[14-Oct-2008 19:59:20] **adytum-bot> Title: Create a device dependency - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Oct-2008 19:59:45] **jmp242> yes, that's a good example muppethouse
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:03] **texasthunder> i looked at that, but instead of ping, can i use something else?
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:21] **jmp242> yes texasthunder
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:25] **texasthunder> a db going down doens't mean the machine is down
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:35] **jmp242> it's a python expression can do whatever I expect
[14-Oct-2008 20:00:37] **texasthunder> i'm dying to know here
[14-Oct-2008 20:01:07] **`m3> its probably in the component
[14-Oct-2008 20:01:30] **justizin> texasthunder: sounds like a complex issue that would be easier to discuss in context of a detailed issue with repro instructions.
[14-Oct-2008 20:01:30] **`m3> thats where my colleague found the disk partition name, handy
[14-Oct-2008 20:02:09] **texasthunder> justizin: good point
[14-Oct-2008 20:02:33] **jmp242> I'm waiting for my Python book lol... but I think you just need to figure out the db event . . .
[14-Oct-2008 20:02:51] **texasthunder> db_server.pingStatus is good, but I'm guessing, after the period what other options are there?
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:01] **texasthunder> how can i find those?
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:14] **texasthunder> that is the real question i guess.
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:17] **`m3> there is a list in the appendix, end of the admin guide pdf
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:23] **texasthunder> seriously?
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:27] **`m3> seriously ...
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:41] **`m3> also reading zenoss code helps
[14-Oct-2008 20:03:49] **justizin> if you can get at it in a pdb you can dir() it
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:09] **`m3> not sure i understand
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:11] **justizin> reading zope code to understand an app is like reading dna to understand anatomy ;d
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:24] **texasthunder> rofl
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:26] **`m3> justizin, true, but were in open source here
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:40] **justizin> yah i just mean the source is only half the app, a lot of it generates at runtime in memory.
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:48] **`m3> grep
[14-Oct-2008 20:04:51] **`m3> you dont read it all
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:00] **`m3> anyway, just ideas
you dont have to use them[14-Oct-2008 20:05:01] **cgibbons> zope *puke*
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:11] **`m3> but the list of methods was real ( admin guide )
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:15] **justizin> well, you guys are using like 2003 zope
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:21] **cgibbons> yeah
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:29] **justizin> it's ok, i am *so* ready to help.
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:35] **muppethouse> yeah, 2008 zope is called Django isn't it?
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:38] **texasthunder> i just looked in the admin guide
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:46] **texasthunder> no appendices
[14-Oct-2008 20:05:47] **justizin> it's called repoze
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:09] **`m3> texasthunder, its there, search for findDevice in there
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:11] **cgibbons> mmm django is tasty
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:13] **`m3> or similar
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:17] **texasthunder> ok
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:37] **justizin> the zenoss code is actually pretty decent for porting to modern z3. setuptools can do what zenpacks do now, i think..
[14-Oct-2008 20:06:44] **justizin> anyway, i'll shut up until i have something to show.
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:36] **texasthunder> justizin: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:39] **texasthunder> doesn't have it
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:49] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:50] **texasthunder> i've looked for finddevice
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:54] **justizin> doesn't have what now?
[14-Oct-2008 20:08:54] **`m3> why would you use such an old one ?
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:05] **`m3> 2.2.x now
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:10] **texasthunder> search for findDevice in there
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:24] **justizin> it's just contents, though
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:34] **`m3> i am gonna send you the direct link
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:40] **`m3> and keep quiet in future
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:41] **texasthunder> thanks
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:52] **justizin> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=findDevice+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.zenoss.com%2Fcommunity%2Fdocs%2F&btnG=Search
[14-Oct-2008 20:09:52] **`m3> you will make a great manager oneday texasthunder
[14-Oct-2008 20:10:33] * justizin bet `m3 link better
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:25] **`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/apcs02.html
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:30] **`m3> findDevice isnt there
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:39] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Oct-2008 20:11:48] **`m3> this was the page i was thinking of
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:18] **`m3> but thats why i said look in the code
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:27] **`m3> there are obviously more
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:47] **texasthunder> ok let me put on my very small programming cap
[14-Oct-2008 20:12:59] **texasthunder> =-O
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:14] **`m3> i understand totally i wrote this script, all works in zendmd
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:33] **`m3> but it doesnt stick when i run it in a python script
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:39] **`m3> no errors, just doesnt commit
[14-Oct-2008 20:13:52] **`m3> other script work the same and do similar things fine.
[14-Oct-2008 20:14:02] **`m3> must be something really silly.
[14-Oct-2008 21:16:13] telexicon_ is now known as telexicon
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:00] **justizin> `m3: did you consider trying to force a commit yourself?
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:07] **justizin> import transaction; transaction.commit()
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:17] **justizin> not always the best practice, but can be useful
[14-Oct-2008 21:26:32] **justizin> or you can throw a pdb.set_trace() in there and you'll get interactive prompt in context
[14-Oct-2008 21:45:10] **justizin> i'm curious, when i set the regex for an OSProcess to something like ".*runzeo.*", why doesn't a long command containing 'runzeo' seem to match?
[14-Oct-2008 21:51:48] **`m3> justizin, i tried a regular commit()
[14-Oct-2008 21:52:05] **`m3> but my script didnt like it and its never been neccesary before
[14-Oct-2008 21:52:18] **`m3> i will post it on the forum or something
[14-Oct-2008 21:53:02] **`m3> justizin, because its running from py
[14-Oct-2008 21:53:05] **`m3> i think
[14-Oct-2008 21:59:09] **rhett> Test failed: socket.gaierror - (-2, \'Name or service not known\') 2008/10/14 14:21:26 any one know what causes this error?
[14-Oct-2008 21:59:43] **rhett> i just started receiving it when i try to send a test message
[14-Oct-2008 22:01:05] **justizin> hm..
[14-Oct-2008 22:01:33] **rhett> i've seen it in the past but i am not sure what the cause is
[14-Oct-2008 22:03:08] **boingolov> by the way,I had to leave shortly after asking my question earlier wrt severities
[14-Oct-2008 22:03:28] **boingolov> thanks for the responses. but short of going through the code, are the numeric values of the severities specified in documentation anywhere?
[14-Oct-2008 22:03:59] **boingolov> also, say I wanted to do zensyslog.conf to ignore events that are less than warning in severity, how would I do that?
[14-Oct-2008 22:04:52] **`m3> transform
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:03] **`m3> or set it on the class ( zproperties of the class )
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:29] **`m3> so if your error comes in as /hw/power ( class ) , set the severity there as a zcommand
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:43] **boingolov> the thing is, the device itsself isn't modeled exactly
[14-Oct-2008 22:05:55] **boingolov> but it is sending syslog messages to zensyslog
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:00] **`m3> your thinking about device class
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:07] **`m3> i am talking about classes of events
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:09] **boingolov> oh, you mean event class?
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:10] **boingolov> gotcha
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:32] **boingolov> the problem is, the event class is /Unknown
[14-Oct-2008 22:06:35] **boingolov> which is a catchall
[14-Oct-2008 22:07:21] **boingolov> if it were anything besides ESXi, I could tell what level of severity / facility etc to forward and leave the rest to log locally . But I can't seem to figure out a way to get at all specific about what gets sent to syslog from ESXi
[14-Oct-2008 22:08:15] **justizin> `m3: i understand it's running from py, but i'm not ignoring arguments. i need to distinguish between different apps running as python, are there any urls / docs you can rec for that?
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:38] **`m3> justizin, i kinda have the same problem / or lack of knowledge
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:45] **`m3> its just not so high in priorities
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:45] **justizin> hm.
[14-Oct-2008 22:10:46] **`m3> atm
[14-Oct-2008 22:11:00] **`m3> same issue on my mind tho
[14-Oct-2008 22:14:31] **boingolov> ahh, okay, wow
[14-Oct-2008 22:14:38] **boingolov> it goes 10 20 30 40 50
[14-Oct-2008 22:14:57] **boingolov> so setting it to "3" was making it probably even more chatty than the default
[14-Oct-2008 22:15:51] **`m3> haha , i put syslogs on there own server there were so many events
[14-Oct-2008 22:19:14] **boingolov> I just set mine to only worry with the errors on up
[14-Oct-2008 22:19:25] **boingolov> but yeah, a seperate syslog server might not be a bad idea
[14-Oct-2008 22:22:34] **`m3> boingolov, nothing should really be in unknown
[14-Oct-2008 22:22:46] **`m3> you need to edit the regexs (add a new line )
[14-Oct-2008 22:23:16] **`m3> to fit whatever it misses, and generate a valid event with all data
[14-Oct-2008 22:23:39] **`m3> i forgot what file ,.. my zenoss is @ work
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:20] **`m3> ahh
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:21] **`m3> /usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/SyslogProcessing.py
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:26] **boingolov> okay
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:28] **boingolov> thank you
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:31] **boingolov> I will look into that
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:36] **`m3> its a python specific regex
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:41] **boingolov> fun
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:47] **boingolov> so is it basically perl compatible?
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:52] **`m3> that alone should save you the days it took me to find out
[14-Oct-2008 22:30:57] **boingolov> I'm python illiterate
[14-Oct-2008 22:31:04] **boingolov> thank you
[14-Oct-2008 22:31:57] **`m3> lol yw
[14-Oct-2008 22:32:16] **boingolov> crap, this still looks like it's picking up really insignificant stuff from syslog, seems to be ignoring zensyslog.conf
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:01] **`m3> http://www.regular-expressions.info/named.html
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:07] **adytum-bot> Title: Regex Tutorial - Named Capturing Groups - Backreference Names (at www.regular-expressions.info)
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:54] **boingolov> okay, so basically perlish with the named backreferences?
[14-Oct-2008 22:33:58] **`m3> are you forwarding *.* tho ?
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:06] **`m3> yes thats it
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:09] **boingolov> ^m3 , on that esxi box, yes
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:17] **boingolov> and I can't seem to find a way to only send a subset
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:19] **`m3> so dont forward *.*
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:25] **boingolov> with normal syslog daemons, you have that option
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:26] **`m3> leave out the trivial stuff
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:39] **boingolov> with esxi , you just point it at a remote syslog machine
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:41] **`m3> i forget the exact syntax
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:48] **`m3> but warn.* @ host
[14-Oct-2008 22:34:53] **`m3> or whatever
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:02] **boingolov> yeah, within a typical syslog.conf file on a typical *nix machine
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:10] **boingolov> but ESXi is not using a typical syslog from what I can tell
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:11] **`m3> ouch, nasty
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:32] **boingolov> I think that's why it's the free version, heh
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:37] **boingolov> it's crap in parts
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:49] **boingolov> we need to upgrade it to the full ESX
[14-Oct-2008 22:35:50] **`m3> still you could probably fix that easier than filter the millions of different ones on zenoss
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:16] **boingolov> all I'm trying to do is tell zensyslog that I want it to ignore anything with a severity below error
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:25] **`m3> *.* includes debug and stuff
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:43] **`m3> so tranform it then
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:46] **boingolov> ^m3, exactly
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:47] **`m3> transform
[14-Oct-2008 22:36:59] **boingolov> my log messages look something like "10:43 - was thirsty, drank some water"
[14-Oct-2008 22:37:36] **boingolov> I'm tempted to turn it off for now until we get a license for the full blown ESX
[14-Oct-2008 22:37:56] **`m3> if event.severity < 3: event._action=history|drop|whatever
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:01] **`m3> or something there abouts
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:04] **boingolov> I'm just saying, there is an advertised option to zensyslog to set a threshold
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:37] **`m3> and you did restart zensyslog ( dummy q i know )
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:40] **boingolov> yes
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:46] **`m3> stop && kill && start
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:49] **boingolov> and I've restarted the entire stack a few times as well
[14-Oct-2008 22:38:55] **`m3> ? or at least check its not lieing
[14-Oct-2008 22:39:54] **boingolov> I just stopped the stack, ps'ed and checked for any python processes running, nada (except for some red hat stuff)
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:05] **`m3> kool
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:15] **boingolov> starting it up again now, but this is nothing I haven't done in the past
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:30] **`m3> gotcha, well i am about out of suggestions
[14-Oct-2008 22:40:48] **boingolov> well, you've given some good ones, and I'll definitely look into that regex stuff
[14-Oct-2008 22:41:03] **boingolov> that will be useful regardless of whether or not I get the threshold stuff working
[14-Oct-2008 22:41:29] **`m3> kool
[14-Oct-2008 22:42:37] **boingolov> and I guess once I get the eventClass stuff behaving properly, the transform would then be something I'd apply to the class?
[14-Oct-2008 22:42:42] **boingolov> assuming threshold is a no go?
[14-Oct-2008 22:43:17] **`m3> yup that would be the correct order
[14-Oct-2008 22:43:29] **boingolov> coolio
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:16] **`m3> i just didnt understand why i couldnt get it working in grep
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:18] **boingolov> oh, wait, whenever you modify a py file, and there is a pyc file, do I need to delete the pyc in order to force it to recompile?
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:39] **`m3> i dont think so, i think it happens automatically
[14-Oct-2008 22:44:51] **boingolov> okay
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:00] **justizin> may need to restart the python process..
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:03] **`m3> i am not definitive on that
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:19] **`m3> yeh he restarted the zensyslog dameon
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:23] **boingolov> I remember going through some weirdness trying to get trac working
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:28] * boingolov grumbles about python
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:48] **justizin> you can always try removing pycs, there are certainly issues they can cause, but it should recompile based on modification date.
[14-Oct-2008 22:45:59] **`m3> so many python cherries busted for zenoss
[14-Oct-2008 22:46:08] **justizin>
[14-Oct-2008 22:46:43] **`m3> sounds like you got a handle on python and zope justizin
[14-Oct-2008 22:46:50] **`m3> just newish to zenoss ?
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:14] **justizin> yeap
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:28] **`m3> thats a good position to start from
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:31] **justizin> being based on python and zope is a big attractor to zenoss for me.
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:39] **justizin> yah seriously, the zenoss code itself is not very big.
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:49] **`m3> its a PITA for the rest of the world, but yeh
[14-Oct-2008 22:47:51] **justizin> likin' the yui..
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:10] **boingolov> actually it was almost a deal breaker for me, but I like the UI really well, and so do my coworkers
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:22] **`m3> so many people assume machine details are in mysql
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:24] **justizin> well if i can help come up with ways to be more z3-ish in zenoss instead of z2-ish, rest of the world might have less headaches.
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:42] **justizin> yah it was clear to me in like 5min ok the structure of stuff is in zodb, the events are in mysql. got it.
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:46] **boingolov> anyway, thanks for the suggestions m3
[14-Oct-2008 22:48:50] **boingolov> I'm out of here
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:03] **justizin> i was really surprised to see zenoss still using zope 2.6
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:10] **`m3> kool, later boingolov
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:16] **`m3> ?
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:22] **`m3> it was 2.4 last time i looked
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:26] **justizin> 2.11 is out now.
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:28] **justizin> yeesh even worse
[14-Oct-2008 22:49:32] **justizin> i saw 2.6 somewhere
[14-Oct-2008 22:50:13] **justizin> impressed to see PAS in use..
[14-Oct-2008 22:50:40] **`m3> yeh very enterprise
[14-Oct-2008 22:55:40] **justizin> hm, odd, i have errors for threshold of utilization 75% on my he.net ipv6 tunnel interface
[14-Oct-2008 23:44:03] **Pikoro> can someone point me to a doc that explains how to map a MIB to a certain group or class of device?
[14-Oct-2008 23:44:48] **`m3> best way i can explain, is to say you dont, google on zenmib
[14-Oct-2008 23:45:37] **Pikoro> well i got the mib imported with dependencies and all that, but it seems i'll have to make all kinds of stuff manually.. spent all day googling it yesterday.. heheh
[14-Oct-2008 23:46:29] **Pikoro> i just want to make it so when i add a certain class of device it's automatically polled for certain things..
[14-Oct-2008 23:46:47] **`m3> but that has little to do with mibs
[14-Oct-2008 23:46:51] **Pikoro> without having to spend 4 or 5 days making all the probes manually
[14-Oct-2008 23:47:49] **`m3> you must be looking for something else
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:00] **`m3> it doesnt sound like a mib to me
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:12] **`m3> sounds more like collector plugins
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:34] **Pikoro> yah, that might be more appropriate
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:37] **`m3> and modelling devices
[14-Oct-2008 23:48:50] **Pikoro> i have 417 items i need to probe for these devices
[14-Oct-2008 23:49:02] **Pikoro> so i'm trying not to have to create all the collectors manually i guess
[14-Oct-2008 23:49:48] **`m3> as long as they are ipservices, or pretty normal you should be ok
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:00] **`m3> or at least most of em
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:26] **`m3> you can always use ssh comands / shell script
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:26] **Pikoro> they're not standard services or items to probe..
[14-Oct-2008 23:50:47] **Pikoro> cpu temp, # of hotspot users, things like that
[14-Oct-2008 23:51:28] **`m3> i think there might be a zenoss agent you can install on a machine
[14-Oct-2008 23:51:53] **Pikoro> nah, they're a custom embedded linux build with no access to install new scripts or anything
[14-Oct-2008 23:52:22] **Pikoro> otherwise I wouldn't be here
[14-Oct-2008 23:52:27] **`m3> lol, ok, so how do you plan to tackle that
[14-Oct-2008 23:52:54] **`m3> can it take an ssh shell command
[14-Oct-2008 23:53:37] **Pikoro> i can ssh in but it's a custom shell.. i can write scripts to access it via api but that brings me to a slightly different problem
[14-Oct-2008 23:54:31] **Pikoro> i have one of these routers that opens a pppoe session and updates it's dynamic dns entry automatically. Behind this router are 12 more just like it but accessable on different ports.
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:03] **Pikoro> it seems zenoss can't handle multiple devices with the same dns name or ip but on diffferent ports
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:13] **Pikoro> is there a workaround for that?
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:21] **`m3> well i think it assumes they are services on the same device
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:53] **`m3> i am not sure really, never really come accross the problem
[14-Oct-2008 23:55:59] **Pikoro> the other monitoring software i use (which i am trying to migrate to zenoss from) lets me create a seperate device and probe that device on a different port
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:07] **`m3> sounds like you running stuff through an adsl connection or something
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:18] **`m3> only 1 public ip etc
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:20] **Pikoro> my main router port forwards snmp to a different port for each one
[14-Oct-2008 23:56:50] **`m3> hm i think the snmp port can be altered
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:03] **`m3> but i dont know if you can do it with identical names
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:14] **Pikoro> yah, but all it does is update the entry for my gateway router
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:26] **`m3> yeh i had a feeling it might
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:46] **`m3> the truth is, an intelligent guess is that its not a seperate device
[14-Oct-2008 23:57:56] **`m3> because it has the same name, thats kind of a standard
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:11] **`m3> so i dont think zenoss will change , but hey i dont speak for them
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:17] **justizin> Pikoro: there is something in the wiki or tutorials on that, for pure http monitoring of many sites, each as a device, on separate ips
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:29] **justizin> er on same ip
[14-Oct-2008 23:58:47] **Pikoro> ahh, so you can monitor virtualnamedhosts
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:06] **Pikoro> these are all wireless access points...
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:28] **justizin> ah ok
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:38] **justizin> same host, different ports
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:52] **Pikoro> yah
[14-Oct-2008 23:59:52] **justizin> same problem, if you set up multiple hostname for each, pointing at the main router name..
[15-Oct-2008 00:00:00] **justizin> the most difficult conflict is that of same ip
[15-Oct-2008 00:00:11] **justizin> well, i speculate, i'm new here
[15-Oct-2008 00:00:16] **Pikoro> exactly.
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[15-Oct-2008 00:00:54] **Pikoro> say the main router is main.blah.jp and i access it on port 8192.
[15-Oct-2008 00:01:17] **Pikoro> i access a different one via main.blah.jp on port 8193, 8194, etc...
[15-Oct-2008 00:01:51] **Pikoro> all i need is a ping probe to that port and to snmp monitor on a different port foreach device behind the main router
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:06] **Pikoro> so i can get some basic usage stats out of it
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:07] **justizin> you can't ping a port, pikoro
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:15] **justizin> you can tcp connect monitor it, however..
[15-Oct-2008 00:02:35] **Pikoro> yah
[15-Oct-2008 00:03:09] **Pikoro> the catch is they need to be mapped as a seperate device in zenoss
[15-Oct-2008 00:03:18] **Pikoro> not mapped as services on one device
[15-Oct-2008 00:03:30] **Pikoro> which i could do, but i need the snmp data also
[15-Oct-2008 00:05:07] **justizin> that's how the tutorial on monitoring separate websites on same ip is set up, it says to make a separate device for each site, and add an http monitor. then there is something i forget to deal with zenoss complaining that these "devices" have ip overlap.
[15-Oct-2008 00:05:19] **justizin> should be the same for any multiple "hosts" masquerading as one ip
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:25] **Pikoro> sorry, a little different question. since some of these have dynamic dns entries, will zenoss probe by hostname or ip address
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:42] **Pikoro> if the ip changes will i have to update zenoss manually?
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:53] **`m3> yes and no
[15-Oct-2008 00:06:53] **justizin> that's a good question, for sure.
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:15] **`m3> as standard it will just complain and not update
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:40] **Pikoro> must be a zenpack or something that can "fix" that?
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:41] **`m3> but there is a snippet of script on the forums to automate the process of fixing that
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:45] **`m3> when the ip changes
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:46] **justizin> is there a way to force it to re-lookup the ip on each query?
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:53] **justizin> ah, a link would be great
[15-Oct-2008 00:07:57] **justizin> interesting problem to me, as well..
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:09] **`m3> i would have to google just the same
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:15] **justizin> sure
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:34] **`m3> my bed time + right now, gotta tear myself away, an informative evening, refreshing
[15-Oct-2008 00:08:50] **justizin> peace, `m3
[15-Oct-2008 00:09:00] **`m3> kool
laters[15-Oct-2008 00:09:27] **Pikoro>
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:03] **justizin> intruiging that "laters" has made it through irc all the way to nl ;d
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:14] **justizin> or who knows maybe we stole it from nl
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:23] **justizin> .. via irc ..
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:26] **justizin> :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:28] **Pikoro> it's not here in japan yet
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:37] **justizin> well, Pikoro, it's time for you to kick it off.
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:48] **justizin> maybe in a few years, with your help, people in Japan will speak my language!
[15-Oct-2008 00:10:54] **Pikoro> raitazu just doesn't sound the same
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:02] **justizin> loosely translated?
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:26] **Pikoro> katakana
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:44] **justizin> to english?
[15-Oct-2008 00:11:47] **Pikoro> レイタズ
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:04] * justizin is tragically undercultured
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:10] **Pikoro> heh
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:32] **justizin> i know *all* about tacos, and european beer. scotch. dutch pot. block art is my greatest familiarity with japan.
[15-Oct-2008 00:12:42] **justizin> well, and i worked for the company who made the first kanji terminal, afaik
[15-Oct-2008 00:13:14] **justizin> now, a kanji terminal with a block art background, *that* would be sweet.
[15-Oct-2008 00:13:23] **Pikoro> easy to do in linux
[15-Oct-2008 00:13:44] **justizin> yah i know i'm just being a goof
[15-Oct-2008 00:14:02] * justizin remembers when Eterm went pseudo-transparent
[15-Oct-2008 00:14:48] **Pikoro> i never did like enlightenment much
[15-Oct-2008 00:14:56] **Pikoro> too memory hungry and slowed things down
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:07] **justizin> i used to be huge on E16 + gnome-panel and gkrellm before i became a mac weenie.
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:08] **Pikoro> did E17 ever come out?
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:17] **justizin> i'm not sure, but there are some cool ideas in there for sure..
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:26] **justizin> i'd like to see GNUStep and Evas working together
[15-Oct-2008 00:15:49] **justizin> GNUStep's failure is relying on Motif or whatever
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:00] **Pikoro> i'm a blackbox guy myself
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:09] **justizin> sorry, s/mac\ weenie/apple\ fanboy/g
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:19] **justizin> to quote krose :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:42] **Pikoro> osx is about the only OS i actually feel comfortable in... the system I'm on now is a hackintosh
[15-Oct-2008 00:16:58] **Pikoro> problem is it won't pick up my third monitor
[15-Oct-2008 00:17:19] **justizin> d'oh
[15-Oct-2008 00:18:08] **justizin> the concepts behind osx are not that far from where x11 is nowadays, one of the main changes from NeXT to OSX in Quartz is that it uses a protocol more like x11 - c apis by default, support for PDF / PS code, rather than using PDF/ PS as default
[15-Oct-2008 00:18:30] **justizin> i had a buddy who was one of the NeXT guys working on Display PDF originally with Adobe and he said they were just too enamored with PostScript at the time as a programming language
[15-Oct-2008 00:18:59] **justizin> other than Quartz, Cocoa is one of the huge cool things and I still have some confidence a similar environment could prevail over the lameness of GNOME/KDE
[15-Oct-2008 00:19:05] **Pikoro> i just wish windows would move to the .app method.. ends dll hell right at the start
[15-Oct-2008 00:19:24] **justizin> in the right context it'd be hard even for Miguel to admit that Mono is easier to develop GUI apps with on Cocoa than with WinForms or GTK+
[15-Oct-2008 00:19:52] **justizin> well I think GNU/Linux can move to the .app and .Framework method, it's proposed in Single UNIX Spec and possible to do with a lot of pain in a from-scratch linux system..
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:21] **justizin> the linker model is a bit diff but i dunno, somehow .app works fine on linux with gnustep.. sometimes i dump Colloquy on my Mac for TalkSoup.app in my Ubuntu VM
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:29] **justizin> learning the root
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:31] **justizin> roots, that is
[15-Oct-2008 00:20:51] **justizin> anyway, now we're like #plone, devolving from Zope and Zope app talk into Mac fanboyism
[15-Oct-2008 00:21:03] **Pikoro> haha
[15-Oct-2008 00:21:04] **justizin> great, i've brought the plone-irc-virus ;d
[15-Oct-2008 00:21:30] **justizin> anyone know how to monitor Debian's apache processes, which are called apache2 instead of httpd? i tried the simplest, most obvious change, but no dice..
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:03] **justizin> for some reason, i noticed, my mysqld and httpd monitors failed for days or even a week and then one day just worked. am i crazy? did i fix it while totally intoxicated and forget how? if so, thank goodness zodb has a log of changes. :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:07] **Pikoro> rename the binary httpd and ln-s apache2 to it?
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:33] **justizin> rewrite system-level scripts that are overwritten in upgrades, versus changing a regex? i totally follow! :-P
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:45] **justizin> dude i mean i changed the regex 'httpd' part to 'apache2' and no luck
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:49] **justizin> but also my httpd seemed not to work for a good while
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:52] **justizin> i forget exactly why
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:57] **justizin> i just kind of backed off zenoss a few days
[15-Oct-2008 00:22:58] **justizin> came back
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:02] **justizin> my snmp stuff stopped collecting
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:10] **justizin> and my httpd and mysql processes were tracking
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:15] **justizin> which is nuts because that should come from snmpd
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:35] **justizin> i can't wait to reset this whole demo system and start over without any of the first-week-of-learning-zenoss stuff around ;d
[15-Oct-2008 00:23:43] **justizin> but i have all these pretty graphs and don't want to nuke the data
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:03] **Pikoro> backup the perf directory
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:13] **justizin> well yah its just some of my issues also relate to the rrds
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:23] **justizin> my graphs all go on 5min average, but after a while i changed poll for snmp to 30s
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:48] **justizin> some newer graphs on newer hosts have much softer curves with more detail, higher peaks, etc.. but the pre-existing are stuck to the old model
[15-Oct-2008 00:24:59] **justizin> talked to #rrdtool and it's the rrd, it has an interval at creation
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:11] **justizin> so i'll leave most things as is until i fully have a handle on it
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:20] **justizin> put up some flat history graphs and start over
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:22] **justizin> for now, eh, whatever
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:34] **justizin> still trying to figure out the OSProcess regex stuff for things that run in an interpreter
[15-Oct-2008 00:25:42] **justizin> or anything else where i need to filter on arguments
[15-Oct-2008 01:41:07] telexicon is now known as chowmeined
[15-Oct-2008 11:57:40] **Yotus> Does anyone know the status of the progress of layer 2 links between locations in the Google Map?
[15-Oct-2008 12:55:07] **jmp242> Yotus: I don't believe there's been any progress on Layer 2 mapping. . .
[15-Oct-2008 13:06:41] **nemo_> lol he only asked last night
[15-Oct-2008 13:06:53] **nemo_> did you actually make a trac bug Yotus
[15-Oct-2008 13:28:38] **Yotus> nemo_, no - not yet. I only noticed that it is 5 weeks ago that the initial layer 2 code was added to LinkManager.py.
[15-Oct-2008 13:41:44] **raddy> Is it possible Daemons permantently?
[15-Oct-2008 13:43:48] **nemo_> ? can has english ?
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:18] **raddy> nemo_ : is it possible to disable unneccessary daemons in ZenOSS permananently?
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:26] **nemo_> yes it is
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:34] **nemo_> vi `which zenoss` as zenoss user
[15-Oct-2008 13:48:42] **nemo_> comment the daemons you dont want to run
[15-Oct-2008 13:50:48] **raddy> nemo_ : thank you
[15-Oct-2008 13:51:38] **nemo_> de nada as they say in brazil
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:00] **raddy> nemo_ : vi 'which zenoss' didn't help
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:16] **raddy> nemo_ : vi is creating a new text file
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:32] **nemo_> ok edit the script called zenoss ( i am assuming your using rpm install like me )
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:47] **nemo_> [zenoss@monitor05 log]$ which zenoss
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:47] **nemo_> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss
[15-Oct-2008 13:53:51] **raddy> nemo_ : of-course
[15-Oct-2008 13:54:12] **nemo_> and vi is just a text editor, use your favourite editor
[15-Oct-2008 13:54:29] **thrope> raddy: backticks ` not single quote ;
[15-Oct-2008 13:54:32] **thrope> *'
[15-Oct-2008 13:55:44] **raddy> thrope : ohh
[15-Oct-2008 13:56:45] **raddy> nemo_ : is the daemon list be in a distict location in zenoss text file?
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:40] **nemo_> raddy,
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:41] **nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m7a076448
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:49] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[15-Oct-2008 13:57:52] **nemo_> thats part of my config, see how two of them are commented
[15-Oct-2008 13:58:00] **nemo_> follow that example, you should be good
[15-Oct-2008 14:04:39] **jmp242> Anyone have ideas on:
[15-Oct-2008 14:04:39] **jmp242> WMI connect error on mycomp: DeviceProxy instance has no attribute 'zWinUser'
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:07] **jmp242> I'm only seeing this on one of my Windows systems, one of the test ones that doesn't use the WMI zenpack...
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:39] **nemo_> What is the DeviceProxy bit jmp242
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:41] **thrope> I always got an error like that until i turned of zWinEventLog in zproperties (or something like that)
[15-Oct-2008 14:05:45] **nemo_> not bumped into that yet
[15-Oct-2008 14:06:26] **jmp242> IDK nemo_ - it's what the event summary is
[15-Oct-2008 14:06:56] **jmp242> I've never seen it in 2.1.2, but have it in 2.2.4 now that I've upgraded. And it's only one one testing computer right now so I'm not terribly worried
[15-Oct-2008 14:07:09] **jmp242> but it might be an issue I'd see elsewhere
[15-Oct-2008 14:39:58] **texasthunder> cgibbons: r u there?
[15-Oct-2008 17:42:32] **boingolov> heya `m3
[15-Oct-2008 17:42:42] **boingolov> do you have a second for a question regarding our conversation earlier?
[15-Oct-2008 17:43:16] **boingolov> I added a regex for vmware ESXi , it seems to be working in that it now properly pulls out the component, pid and summary bits
[15-Oct-2008 17:43:23] **boingolov> but it still goes to class unknown
[15-Oct-2008 17:44:12] **boingolov> I'm guessing I need to parse something to find the eventClassKey ?
[15-Oct-2008 17:45:08] **boingolov> would there be an easy way to set eventClassKey based on just the fact that the regex matched?
[15-Oct-2008 18:02:27] **`m3> sorry boingolov just left work
[15-Oct-2008 18:02:42] **`m3> i forget which log, not much help to you i know ...
[15-Oct-2008 18:02:49] **`m3> events.log perhaps
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[16-Oct-2008 06:11:33] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[16-Oct-2008 08:52:22] **emnaki> Question if I may, how do you distinguish between ping alerts and other event alerts?
[16-Oct-2008 09:27:06] **emnaki> Anyone free for a question?
[16-Oct-2008 11:45:31] **raddy> Anybody out there?
[16-Oct-2008 11:57:39] **jmp242> yes?
[16-Oct-2008 11:57:44] **jmp242> I'm out here
[16-Oct-2008 12:02:32] **raddy> jmp242 : what is the minimum daemons needed to be run to collect performance information, process status, and Port status and to access the Web interface.
[16-Oct-2008 12:03:21] **raddy> jmp242 : is there any advantage to collect Performance and Process status information via ssh instead snmp?
[16-Oct-2008 12:03:35] **raddy> jmp242 : i am monitoring my linux server
[16-Oct-2008 12:03:53] **raddy> jmp242 : zenoss is installed in that same server
[16-Oct-2008 12:04:48] **jmp242> You pretty much need all the daemons, depending on whether you're using command based performance collectors
[16-Oct-2008 12:05:20] **jmp242> If you're not doing Windows, or WMI anyway, you could stop ZenWin
[16-Oct-2008 12:05:23] **jmp242> and ZenEventLog
[16-Oct-2008 12:05:47] **jmp242> You need ZenModeler to actually model a device for future polling
[16-Oct-2008 12:06:02] **jmp242> but once you've done that, you could turn it off and not automatically re-look every 6 hours
[16-Oct-2008 12:06:11] **jmp242> just remember you will need to turn it back on when you add a device
[16-Oct-2008 12:06:44] **jmp242> ZenTrap is used for SNMP traps, if you're not recieving traps I guess you could turn that off.
[16-Oct-2008 12:07:04] **jmp242> zenSyslog is the same for recieving syslog forwards
[16-Oct-2008 12:07:21] **jmp242> The only reason you'd want to mess with ssh is if you can't use SNMP IMO
[16-Oct-2008 12:18:37] **raddy> jmp242 : you have counted all the daemons i have disabled
[16-Oct-2008 12:19:00] **raddy> jmp242 : i have disabled even zenping.
[16-Oct-2008 12:19:12] **raddy> jmp242 : is it good?
[16-Oct-2008 12:20:03] **Quadro> hm. what do you need that zenoss for?
[16-Oct-2008 12:23:19] **raddy> Quadro : i didn't get you
[16-Oct-2008 12:24:04] **jmp242> Zenping is used for status, that is: is a device up or down
[16-Oct-2008 12:25:23] **raddy> jmp242 : ohh, but is it useful for local installation?
[16-Oct-2008 12:28:00] **jmp242> What do you mean?
[16-Oct-2008 12:28:24] **jmp242> It's useful for knowing if a device is up or down
[16-Oct-2008 12:32:16] **raddy> jmp242 : as i already told, zenoss is currently installed in the server that to be monitored, at any time zenoss will be able to ping it's own device, so the results won't be accurate
[16-Oct-2008 12:32:41] **jmp242> wait - you only want to monitor one server, the one that Zenoss is installed on?
[16-Oct-2008 12:33:05] **jmp242> that's not a normal usecase for Zenoss . . . I suppose you could do that, but it seems a little overkill to me ?
[16-Oct-2008 12:59:38] **raddy> jmp242 : are you suggesting some lighter solutions like Zabbix?
[16-Oct-2008 13:00:35] **jmp242> not really?
[16-Oct-2008 13:00:45] **jmp242> I'm just thinking that if all you want to look at is one computer
[16-Oct-2008 13:00:55] **jmp242> couldn't you just use the built in stuff?
[16-Oct-2008 13:01:48] **jmp242> I'm not sure what you're actually trying to do however, but I'm just thinking you know, look at top occasionally, and see if the power button light is on . . .
[16-Oct-2008 13:04:10] **Quadro> 8)
[16-Oct-2008 13:50:57] **Weetos> Hi there
[16-Oct-2008 13:52:31] **Weetos> I'd like to apply an SNMP to multiple discovered devices at once, what would be the best approach ?
[16-Oct-2008 13:52:41] **Weetos> *SNMP Community*
[16-Oct-2008 13:54:13] **Weetos> Anyone ?
[16-Oct-2008 14:05:36] **jmp242> using a subclass for them, and changing the zProperty
[16-Oct-2008 14:05:54] **jmp242> mmm sorry, for discovered devices?
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:04] **Weetos> yep
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:19] **jmp242> maybe try one of the batchloaders? or change the autodiscovery to use the community
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:22] **jmp242> you want for that set?
[16-Oct-2008 14:06:52] **Weetos> Well I thought I could setup a menu item for that
[16-Oct-2008 14:07:24] **Weetos> something like 'Set Community...' which would use 'dialog_SetCommunity'
[16-Oct-2008 14:07:44] **Weetos> unfortunately dialog_SetCommunity doens't seem to be available
[16-Oct-2008 14:51:06] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[16-Oct-2008 14:51:48] **raddy> I have disabled some ZenOSS daemons for decreasing memory usage
[16-Oct-2008 14:53:26] **raddy> Now zenoss is not running httpdmonitor and graph is not being drawn anymore
[16-Oct-2008 14:54:49] **raddy> shall i list the daemons that i disabled/
[16-Oct-2008 14:56:30] **jmp242> httpdmonitor uses zencommand and zenactions I believe
[16-Oct-2008 14:56:37] **jmp242> you'll need them running for that to work
[16-Oct-2008 14:58:16] **raddy> jmp242 : i have it enabled
[16-Oct-2008 14:58:39] **raddy> jmp242 : graph it self is not getting drawn
[16-Oct-2008 15:00:49] **jmp242> hmmm
[16-Oct-2008 15:01:32] **raddy> jmp242 : but i am still not sure
[16-Oct-2008 15:01:51] **raddy> jmp242 : we have 3 monitoring systems installed
[16-Oct-2008 15:02:12] **raddy> jmp242 : 2 are off-site 3rd party
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:25] **raddy> jmp242 : Among 2 only one reported our website as down. neither zenoss nor the the other one didn't report
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:43] **jmp242> hmmm, to be honest I've not messed with the Daemons Zenoss runs
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:49] **raddy> jmp242 : so, have to wait and see
[16-Oct-2008 15:03:51] **jmp242> I run it on a pretty much dedicated monitoring server
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:06] **raddy> jmp242 : ohh cool
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:07] **jmp242> so I'm not sure all the implications of turning off certain Daemons
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:22] **jmp242> One problem is you might need to delete the .pickle files
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:27] **jmp242> if you change the config
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:34] **jmp242> they are stored in the perf dirs with the rrd files
[16-Oct-2008 15:04:46] **jmp242> so $ZENHOME/perf/device/.pickle IIRC
[16-Oct-2008 15:05:04] **jmp242> and perhaps restart Zenoss in general...
[16-Oct-2008 15:07:42] **raddy> jmp242 : ohhh
[16-Oct-2008 15:08:23] **raddy> jmp242 : i'll see whether the issue was real
[16-Oct-2008 15:15:01] **jb> anybody here familar with multigraph reports?
[16-Oct-2008 15:16:20] **jb> im wondering if you can re-label the legend to custom names instead of displaying the actual device name that the datapoint is coming frmo?
[16-Oct-2008 16:10:16] **pjz> I just installed zenoss via the debian zenoss-stack package; what's the default admin username/password?
[16-Oct-2008 16:11:04] **rhett_> admin/zenoss
[16-Oct-2008 16:11:17] **pjz> thanks
[16-Oct-2008 16:11:21] **rhett_> np
[16-Oct-2008 16:12:19] **pjz> is there a way to make all the info readonly without having to log in?
[16-Oct-2008 16:12:25] **pjz> I'm really new to this
[16-Oct-2008 16:13:22] **pjz> also: how can I make it run on port 80 instead of 8080 ? I can just hack a forwarding rule into iptables if need be, but that seems a bit... meh
[16-Oct-2008 16:14:21] **rhett_> i am unsure on both of those
[16-Oct-2008 16:19:29] **jmp242> pjz
[16-Oct-2008 16:19:42] **jmp242> readonly without logging in is discussed on the forums
[16-Oct-2008 16:19:54] **jmp242> I'm not sure there was a "good" way to do it, there wasn't much consensus that I saw
[16-Oct-2008 16:20:06] **jmp242> searching will give you several threads that might get you going
[16-Oct-2008 16:20:29] **jmp242> as to changing port, the only way I've done it is via Apache and a rewrite rule so I can actually use 443, i.e. HTTPS
[16-Oct-2008 16:20:47] **jmp242> which I do recommend due to the storage of passwords and how zenoss might show them in some of the logs etc
[16-Oct-2008 16:21:18] **jmp242> It is Zope, so I expect some googling on Zope would maybe give you a hint for just changing where Zope listens . . .
[16-Oct-2008 16:33:35] **jb> argh.. check_ping is returning a RTA of 0.0275ms
[16-Oct-2008 16:33:42] **jb> but, ite graphing that as 275.0ms
[16-Oct-2008 16:33:47] **jb> and i dont know why
[16-Oct-2008 16:52:47] **jb> any RRD experts?
[16-Oct-2008 17:32:01] **krphop> jb: thats probably becuase the gprint is set to do that
[16-Oct-2008 17:32:38] **krphop> you can remove the %s from the gconf string
[16-Oct-2008 17:33:32] **krphop> s/gconf/gprint
[16-Oct-2008 18:08:50] **jb> hm
[16-Oct-2008 18:09:55] **jb> that was it!
[16-Oct-2008 18:10:16] **jb> thank!
[16-Oct-2008 18:10:17] **jb> s
[16-Oct-2008 18:17:14] **nemo2> krphop, can you explain where to do that
[16-Oct-2008 18:17:31] **nemo2> i didnt understand but kinda have the same issues in one or two places
[16-Oct-2008 18:24:56] **pjz> okay, I just set it up, and I try to add a device but nothing gets added. What am I doing wrong?
[16-Oct-2008 18:25:30] chowmein_ is now known as chowmein
[16-Oct-2008 18:25:31] **pjz> I'm pointing it at a valid hostname, giving it the right snmp community, but it's not autodiscovering
[16-Oct-2008 18:32:48] **jb> go to your data source
[16-Oct-2008 18:32:50] **jb> graph point
[16-Oct-2008 18:32:54] **jb> and its in the "Format"
[16-Oct-2008 18:35:41] **nemo2> thx jb, appreciated
[16-Oct-2008 18:36:10] **nemo2> pjz, snmpwalk it from the cmd line
[16-Oct-2008 18:36:22] **nemo2> if that works , then troubleshoot why zenoss isnt seeing it
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:01] **pjz> snmpwalk works
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:17] **pjz> though I had to install snmpwalk; the debian package should have pulled it in.
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:44] **pjz> I've got some events in /zport/dmd/Events/viewEvents that list finding it
[16-Oct-2008 18:38:52] **pjz> but the links under 'device' go to an empty list
[16-Oct-2008 18:40:48] **pjz> it can't be a database problem because it installed its own version of mysql; I've got to assume it did so competently
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:17] **nemo2> ok , well you should check what the logs say, when you add the device you dont get any feedback ?
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:32] **nemo2> logs are in /opt/zenoss/logs ( on my RH /rpm system )
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:40] **nemo2> yours maybe different
[16-Oct-2008 18:42:50] **nemo2> log even, not logs
[16-Oct-2008 18:43:23] **pjz> Result: []
[16-Oct-2008 18:47:11] **pjz> okay, going to wipe and restart in case some IP-changing shenanigans confused it
[16-Oct-2008 19:01:55] **jb> hmm.. anybody made zenpacks?
[16-Oct-2008 19:02:09] **nemo2> yes jb
[16-Oct-2008 19:02:31] **nemo2> you need to make a container or something first, before you got something to add zenpack to.
[16-Oct-2008 19:03:06] **nemo2> my zenoss is at work, not logged in, but its documented in the admin guide
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:08] **jb> well
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:12] **jb> i have wrote a modeler..
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:26] **jb> i thought restarting zope would compile it into a .pyc
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:29] **jb> but its not working..
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:30] **jb> any ideas?
[16-Oct-2008 19:04:51] **nemo2> i *think* it does on mine
[16-Oct-2008 19:05:03] **nemo2> i changed them and changes worked, new pyc files
[16-Oct-2008 19:05:12] **jb> hm
[16-Oct-2008 19:06:08] **jb> ah there it goes
[16-Oct-2008 19:06:11] **jb> i just did a full restart
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:01] **nemo2> how did you restart zope
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:06] **jb> zopectl restart
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:14] **nemo2> i think its zeoctl you want
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:19] **jb> still not working, but its at least compiled
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:28] **jb> do you have to do anything else when writing custom modelers?
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:29] **nemo2> if i recall the way a zenoss guy told me
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:33] **jb> i just wrote the .py
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:44] **jb> copied it from DellDeviceMap into a new already existing zenpack
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:46] **nemo2> really not sure, uncharted territory for me
[16-Oct-2008 19:14:49] **jb> k
[16-Oct-2008 19:20:04] **jb> nemo, are you running core or enterprise?
[16-Oct-2008 19:20:38] **sn1ffer72> ok.. who has successfully loaded the INFORMANT mibs?
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:18] **sn1ffer72> never mind
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:20] **sn1ffer72> http://www.snmp-informant.com
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:23] **sn1ffer72> I just downloaded it
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:28] **adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:37] **sn1ffer72> and noticed that I will have to install it on every box that I want stats from
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:39] **sn1ffer72> not an option
[16-Oct-2008 19:24:46] **sn1ffer72> forme
[16-Oct-2008 19:25:34] **jb> yep
[16-Oct-2008 19:25:38] **jb> why?
[16-Oct-2008 19:25:40] **jb> its just a file
[16-Oct-2008 19:38:02] **boingolov> is there an easy way to map all events that come from syslog on a given host / class of hosts to a given event class in one swoop? specifically those that would otherwise go to /Unknown ?
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:11] **nemo2> ent jb
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:22] **nemo2> i do have a core box out on the internet
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:43] **nemo2> but i think mysql ate itself because of a neglected event log , or something
[16-Oct-2008 19:44:59] **sn1ffer72> yeah.. I am setting this up for all groups in my company
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:11] **sn1ffer72> many of which are even skeptical to using SNMP
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:16] **sn1ffer72> I know stupid, but that's how it is
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:25] **pjz> if I added an snmpd to a box after I added the box to zenoss, how do I tell zenoss that it's now snmp-enabled?
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:33] **sn1ffer72> even though I am using SNMP on 60,000 other nodes
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:39] **nemo2> boingolov, all about that regex dude
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:48] **nemo2> the right regex does it all, the perfect storm etc
[16-Oct-2008 19:45:55] **sn1ffer72> go into the zProperties
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:06] **sn1ffer72> and make sure that the Ignore SNMP is set to false
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:06] **boingolov> nemo2, would you mind taking a look at mine to see what I might be doing wrong?
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:28] **nemo2> pastebin for everyone to see boingolov , i will gladly look too
[16-Oct-2008 19:46:53] **nemo2> i didnt touch that wierd py regex stuff since 5 months when i got it going
[16-Oct-2008 19:47:46] **boingolov> http://pastebin.com/m1f1322f5
[16-Oct-2008 19:47:53] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[16-Oct-2008 19:48:02] **pjz> sn1ffer72: thanks
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:19] **nemo2> boingolov, can you post some of the original regex too
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:32] **nemo2> the date stuff is auto done
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:35] **nemo2> you start from the date
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:39] **boingolov> sure
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:40] **nemo2> after the date sorry
[16-Oct-2008 19:49:50] **pjz> boingolov: are you sure that's a space between the timestamp/ps and the component? could it be a tab instead?
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:02] **boingolov> yes, I do. but the date is relatively unimportant, especially since the base system seems to run at GMT
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:04] **pjz> either way, won't hurt to replace it with \s+
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:13] **boingolov> pjz, good point
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:24] **nemo2> boingolov, what i meant is dont start your regex on the date
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:28] **boingolov> does \s in py cover all whitespace, including tab?
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:30] **nemo2> its auto done somehow
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:37] **pjz> boingolov: I think so
[16-Oct-2008 19:50:57] **nemo2> its already somehow covered , thats the mistake i made
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:24] **boingolov> pjz, the thing is, I believe that regex is working because it now properly splits out the facility
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:27] **nemo2> try a more permissive .*WARNING:
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:28] **nemo2> or so
[16-Oct-2008 19:51:32] **boingolov> err, not facility, but the component
[16-Oct-2008 19:52:31] **boingolov> but from my reading of the code (IANAPP - i am not a python programmer), it looks like in the abasence of an eventClass of eventClassKey variable in the regex that matches, it will go for component and try to find a mapping for an event class .
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:06] **nemo2> boingolov, i suggest you compare yours starting with the date, and the other default regex's
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:11] **boingolov> and in the absence of a mapping for given component (vmkernel in this case), it will go to Unknown , correct?
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:22] **nemo2> indeed
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:50] **nemo2> you can only map those with a component
[16-Oct-2008 19:53:56] **nemo2> its very confusing
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:26] **boingolov> it makes sense that if it's not parsing the vmware syslog format, it probably doesn't know much about its components either
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:28] **nemo2> if a message comes in with a component, and its still in unknown
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:34] **nemo2> you can map it to a class
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:37] **boingolov> right
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:44] **nemo2> but with no component it cant work
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:46] **boingolov> and I've successfully done that with messages from crond (lower case)
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:54] **nemo2> kool.
[16-Oct-2008 19:54:57] **boingolov> it had one for upper case CROND, but didn't seem to want to match
[16-Oct-2008 19:55:17] **nemo2> not a biggy once you get used to cleaning them up
[16-Oct-2008 19:55:32] **nemo2> and of course if done right you dont see it in unknown again
[16-Oct-2008 19:55:39] **boingolov> yeah
[16-Oct-2008 19:56:15] **boingolov> okay, after I do an event class mapping, what do I have to restart in order to make it active, short of restarting the whole stack?
[16-Oct-2008 19:56:57] **nemo2> mapping ?
[16-Oct-2008 19:57:08] **nemo2> i would restart zensyslog and zeo
[16-Oct-2008 19:57:14] **nemo2> zeoctl
[16-Oct-2008 19:57:16] **boingolov> okay
[16-Oct-2008 20:05:04] **pjz> anyone monitor debian boxes? do you put anything on them other than snmpd for monitoring?
[16-Oct-2008 20:05:22] **pjz> are there extra mibs I should be putting somewhere?
[16-Oct-2008 20:16:57] **jb> anyone here using AD auth in enterprise>?
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:11] **nemo2> yeh
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:16] **jb> so.. how does it work?
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:19] **jb> i haven configured it
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:23] **jb> s/haven/have
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:31] **nemo2> as described in the manual is about all i can say
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:34] **jb> obviously, the users need to be created
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:36] **jb> in zenoss..
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:42] **jb> so then does it look at AD for the password?
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:44] **nemo2> our ad structure changed, i fixed it, it keeps on working
[16-Oct-2008 20:17:48] **jb> the docs really don't say.. they just say how to configure it
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:00] **nemo2> not sure if it only auths against or somehow takes the hash or whatever
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:12] **jb> but, you created local users in zen, right?
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:16] **nemo2> noooo
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:17] **nemo2>
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:24] **jb> so how are you assigning zen privs?
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:27] **nemo2> its ad, your users are in the AD
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:34] **nemo2> most people are default zenuser
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:45] **nemo2> i make manual changes to peoples user on zenoss side
[16-Oct-2008 20:18:52] **nemo2> you can edit each user
[16-Oct-2008 20:19:05] **jb> hmm
[16-Oct-2008 20:19:06] **jb> ok
[16-Oct-2008 20:19:13] **jb> so all of your AD users are showing up in the users panel on zen?
[16-Oct-2008 20:27:53] * nemo2 nods
[16-Oct-2008 20:52:18] **boingolov> okay, after more digging I realized that vmware's syslog output is mostly being matched by the unix syslog ones, with a couple of exceptions. also, I was wrong earlier that my mapping for crond was successful
[16-Oct-2008 20:52:27] **boingolov> some assumptions I've had are apparently invalid
[16-Oct-2008 20:56:58] **boingolov> is there an easy way to turn on debug logging?
[16-Oct-2008 21:02:41] **boingolov> ahhhhh, so THAT is what the logging threshold does
[16-Oct-2008 21:02:53] **boingolov> that's for internal logging, not some sort of filter on what syslog severity it looks at
[16-Oct-2008 21:12:16] **boingolov> http://pastebin.com/m769368c1 <-- could someone take a look and tell me what they think?
[16-Oct-2008 21:12:23] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[16-Oct-2008 22:38:42] **boingolov> okay, should that code even be calling hasattr() ?
[16-Oct-2008 22:39:12] **boingolov> should that not be evt.has_key() ?
[16-Oct-2008 22:41:53] **boingolov> hrm, just changed all hasattr's to evt.has_key's and it seems to be working properly. is this a bug?
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:09] **nemo2> perhaps i had things 99% working
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:24] **nemo2> with many different log formats
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:34] **nemo2> there always seemed 1 or 2
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:43] **boingolov> the version I'm tinkering with is 2.2.0
[16-Oct-2008 22:48:59] **nemo2> mine was 2.1.3 i had those problems with running 2.2.3 now
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:02] **boingolov> anyone running 2.2.4 care to pastebin their SyslogProcessing.py ?
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:16] **boingolov> that would work as well
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:28] **nemo2> work , not connected , sry
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:42] **boingolov> just curious to see the buildClassEventKey method
[16-Oct-2008 22:49:44] **boingolov> np
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:02] **boingolov> I'm downloading the 2.2.4 stack right now, will tinker with it in the a.m.
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:09] **boingolov> I have a feeling this has already been fixed
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:17] **nemo2> just grab a zip of zenoss
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:24] **nemo2> and compare
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:28] **boingolov> that's what I'm doing, going kind of slow though
[16-Oct-2008 22:50:39] **boingolov> oh, you can just grab zenoss itsself?
[16-Oct-2008 22:51:03] **nemo2> you can get the src yeh
[16-Oct-2008 22:51:03] **boingolov> ahh, so you can
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:08] **boingolov> hah, sure enough
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:11] **boingolov> it's has_key now
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:19] **boingolov> whoo hoo @ crash course in python
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:46] **nemo2> kool, i need a new python buddy
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:47] **nemo2>
[16-Oct-2008 22:55:58] **boingolov> heh,not too likely
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:12] **boingolov> anything that takes its queues from makefiles is no friend of mine
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:24] **nemo2> hehe
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:28] **boingolov> why can't they just use a semicolon??
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:49] **nemo2> i just tried c syntax and failed and then hit the docs
[16-Oct-2008 22:56:55] **nemo2> still taking baby steps
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:05] **boingolov> aye
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:09] **nemo2> get excited when my 20 script works !
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:14] **nemo2> 20 line ..
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:15] **boingolov> my first intro to python was working w/ trac
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:38] **nemo2> is py multithreaded
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:38] **boingolov> oh well, time for me to go home
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:40] **nemo2> i guess it is
[16-Oct-2008 22:57:58] **boingolov> I would imagine it at least supports fork() , but threads for an interpreted lang are always iffy
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:04] **boingolov> I know they're a little iffy in perl
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:15] **nemo2> yeh and plain fake in php
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:16] **nemo2>
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:21] **boingolov> heh
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:36] **boingolov> oh well, thanks for listening to me ramble
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:40] **nemo2> same
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:40] **boingolov> time for me to head to the house
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:44] **boingolov> later all
[16-Oct-2008 22:58:48] **nemo2> later
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[17-Oct-2008 02:15:03] **emnaki> Anyone not afk and willing to help me with a transform question?
[17-Oct-2008 03:33:03] **justizin> has anyone got the zenoss 2.3 beta rpms for el5-64 working? even with a bit of zope / python environment hacking, and creating my own zeo / zope instances, i have issues like not able to load librrd.so
[17-Oct-2008 03:38:27] **rhett> is there a way to model all the devices in a particular device class?
[17-Oct-2008 04:26:59] chowmein_ is now known as chowmein
[17-Oct-2008 09:11:22] **monrad> hmm in 2.1 all the collected ips on interfaces and virtual interfaces are /32, but in 2.2.4 they are /24 anyone seen that?
[17-Oct-2008 16:36:38] **justizin> when I add a new OSProcess, it seems not to show up until after a few days, perhaps when the collector is restarted, or perhaps when the client machine or at least its' snmpd is reset. the latter seems to have happened last night.
[17-Oct-2008 18:30:57] **justizin> hm, wierd.. restarted snmpd, restarted zenperfsnmp.. zenoss refuses to accept almost any new configuration when i am around to watch it.
[17-Oct-2008 18:31:59] **justizin> unless i am *extremely* proficient at configuring zenoss when i am drunk, or in some sleepwalking-type state, it's like the proverbial watched pot of systems monitoring ;d
[17-Oct-2008 18:33:17] **nemo2> look in your logs ?
[17-Oct-2008 19:16:12] **boingolov> whoo hoo, 2.2.4 seems to work a lot better w/ ESX . at least now I'm able to map events and the results make sense
[17-Oct-2008 19:16:27] **boingolov> this wasn't really esx specific I guess
[17-Oct-2008 20:15:00] **boingolov> okay, so back to my original question: is there a good way to filter at the zensyslog level info level messages ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:15:30] **boingolov> or at least do a filter at the device class level where all zensyslog messages below a certain severity get thrown away?
[17-Oct-2008 20:15:53] **nemo2> transforms boingolov , or zproerties on the event class to lower / drop the event
[17-Oct-2008 20:17:06] **boingolov> nemo2, the only issue is that there are soooo many different types of events to map
[17-Oct-2008 20:19:19] **nemo2> i seem to still find new ones, but i am running 2.2.3
[17-Oct-2008 20:25:17] **boingolov> I think I might experiment with setting up a standard syslog, have ESX ship to that, then have it do filtering and then forward on to zensyslog
[17-Oct-2008 20:33:16] **justizin> boingolov: not a bad idea at all..
[17-Oct-2008 20:33:41] * justizin wrestles with trying to reset mysql root pw on his zenoss stack install
[17-Oct-2008 20:34:37] **boingolov> justizin, you using mysqladmin ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:35:18] **justizin> yah, i shut down and started using the command from mysql/scripts/ctl.sh, roughly, with --skip-grant-tables and --skip-networking
[17-Oct-2008 20:35:42] **justizin> pointing directly at the socket with mysql -S and get ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:11] **boingolov> justizin, sounds like you just need to tell it to prompt you for a password
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:14] **boingolov> by default it won't
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:22] **justizin> i don't know the password, i need to change it
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:39] **boingolov> that password will be in a config file somewhere
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:54] **justizin> which is why i started mysql with --skip-grant-tables
[17-Oct-2008 20:36:56] **justizin> 'somewhere' yay ;d
[17-Oct-2008 20:37:08] **boingolov> hehe
[17-Oct-2008 20:38:05] **justizin> anyone know what the default is?
[17-Oct-2008 20:38:22] **boingolov> can't say that I do
[17-Oct-2008 20:39:12] **justizin> it seems that it may have prompted me for this password. it's totally possible to reset a pw with root access, but the standard practice for doing so is not working.
[17-Oct-2008 20:39:19] **boingolov> it prompts you for that whenever you install
[17-Oct-2008 20:39:31] **boingolov> and yes, you're right
[17-Oct-2008 20:41:25] **boingolov> there should be a way to reset
[17-Oct-2008 20:42:01] **justizin> there is, according to several tutorials i found in google, you pass --skip-grant-tables to safe_mysqld, but that's not changing anything
[17-Oct-2008 20:42:28] **boingolov> justizin, are you 100% positive you're starting the correct instance of mysqld ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:42:35] **boingolov> i.e., the one that exists in /usr/local/zenoss/mysql ?
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:05] **justizin> boingolov: as i said, i copied the command out of the script.
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:08] **justizin> i got an answer
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:26] **justizin> it wouldn't matter what version of mysql i was starting anyway, if the socket is in the startup cmd, and it refuses connections, that's odd.
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:35] **justizin> even if it was the wrong mysql, it should give me access to the wrong mysql
[17-Oct-2008 20:43:57] **boingolov> one would think
[17-Oct-2008 20:44:34] **boingolov> though I suppose it's vaguely possible there could be some issue one version of mysql client that may be installed in /usr/bin might have issues talking with a different version of mysql, but I've done in this in the past with no problems
[17-Oct-2008 20:48:38] **boingolov> I grepped for my password and got hits on $ZENHOME/var/DAta.fs and zeo1-1.zec
[17-Oct-2008 20:49:00] **boingolov> I'm guessing those are the internal databases
[17-Oct-2008 20:49:36] **boingolov> the zope database or whatever
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:10] **justizin> that is zenoss user pw
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:15] **justizin> can't even see the 'mysql' db
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:30] **boingolov> ahh, could be. in my case, the admin password is the same as the root db pw
[17-Oct-2008 20:50:42] **justizin> sure.
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:33] **boingolov> otoh, it has to store it somewhere, and it's not in a config file
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:47] **boingolov> otoh, there could be a two-way hash involved
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:57] **boingolov> so it may be in a config file for all I knwo
[17-Oct-2008 20:52:59] **boingolov> know even
[17-Oct-2008 21:03:30] **justizin> so, i was just doing maintenance on my zenoss mysql server, and took it down, and zenoss was able to track that. pretty neat, my question is: how? does it have a queue in the pollers or something in case a db write fails?
[17-Oct-2008 21:10:21] **justizin> hm, odd, i wonder if this is zenoss or my fault, there were three entries for 'root' - 'localhost', '127.0.0.1', and my public hostname, and i dont think mysqladmin knew what to update. updating user table directly worked, but is a pain.
[17-Oct-2008 21:27:20] **rhett> i am drawing a blank how to get an alert when ifOperStatus goes up or down for a class. i thought i saw something in the class zproperties but it looks like i was mistaken. any one have an answer?
[17-Oct-2008 21:33:21] **boingolov> whoo hoo, minpriority seems to actually work in 2.2.4
[17-Oct-2008 21:33:51] **boingolov> for zensyslog
[17-Oct-2008 21:34:04] **boingolov> I don't actually need to run a seperate syslog after all. at least not for this reason anyway
[17-Oct-2008 21:56:01] **justizin> does zenoss use a ZSQL adapter to talk to MySQL?
[17-Oct-2008 21:56:10] **justizin> or, if not, how can i change what MySQL it looks to?
[17-Oct-2008 22:50:05] **justizin> hm. i find sql port in ZenEventManager and ZenEventHistory, but changing it doesn't seem to look to a new db.
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[18-Oct-2008 05:48:06] **justizin> i often get process restarted alerts for things like apache which are not restarting. any ideas? links? help? pls?
[18-Oct-2008 06:24:20] **rhett1> i have no clue :\
[18-Oct-2008 19:01:49] **boingolov> has anyone managed to set apache up as a frontend where it's under a path that isn't root? for instance, examploe.com/zenoss/ ?
[18-Oct-2008 19:01:59] **boingolov> I've tried the following rewrite rule and it isn't working:
[18-Oct-2008 19:02:24] **boingolov> RewriteRule ^/zenoss/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/%{SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_zenoss/$1 [L,P]
[18-Oct-2008 19:03:14] **boingolov> it keeps trying to redirect to url's that are based off /
[18-Oct-2008 19:03:26] **boingolov> like /zport/dmd/
[18-Oct-2008 19:12:20] **boingolov> ahh, cool, seem to have fixed by doing another rewriterule:
[18-Oct-2008 19:12:37] **boingolov> RewriteRule ^/(zport/.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/%{SERVER_NAME}:443/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_zenoss/$1 [L,P]
[18-Oct-2008 19:19:19] **boingolov> little ugly but it works
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[19-Oct-2008 14:50:02] **sn1ffer72> Good morning.. has anyone tried to graph the output of a nagios check command
[19-Oct-2008 14:50:21] **sn1ffer72> such as the response time to a command like check_smtp or check_ntp?
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[20-Oct-2008 10:19:30] **ToM-_> Has anyone ever detached web frontend from the background processes of zenoss?
[20-Oct-2008 12:20:35] **dfar> Hello
[20-Oct-2008 12:20:58] **dfar> I have a small question if you don't mind
[20-Oct-2008 12:21:17] **dfar> I am testing Zenoss Core 2.2.3
[20-Oct-2008 12:21:50] **dfar> And I created test locations when adding devices, and now I want to remove that location
[20-Oct-2008 12:21:57] **dfar> Where do I do that ?
[20-Oct-2008 12:24:18] **Quadro> /Locations, Sub-locations menu?
[20-Oct-2008 12:24:40] **dfar> I don't see any delete/remove only add there
[20-Oct-2008 12:25:23] **dfar> I can delete organizers but not locations
[20-Oct-2008 12:26:27] **dfar> if I do "edit" "set location" I got a list with locations
[20-Oct-2008 12:26:35] **dfar> Its in this list I want to trim
[20-Oct-2008 12:29:41] **Quadro> 'organizer' means 'location' in /Locations section
[20-Oct-2008 12:31:18] **dfar> The problem is when I remove organizers I still got the "/" "/Belgium" "/Brussels" in the list when I do "set location..."
[20-Oct-2008 12:32:58] **dfar> see what I mean ?
[20-Oct-2008 12:33:31] **dfar> When you get under "browse by - Locations"
[20-Oct-2008 12:34:34] **dfar> there is the menu near status
[20-Oct-2008 12:34:53] **dfar> in this menu under "edit"
[20-Oct-2008 12:35:09] **dfar> you got "set location"
[20-Oct-2008 12:35:22] **dfar> and in the popup I see a list
[20-Oct-2008 12:35:52] **dfar> with multiple /something
[20-Oct-2008 12:36:06] **dfar> I want to remove what I added there
[20-Oct-2008 12:46:28] **dfar> it's a very quiet channel here(C)
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:01] **carpenike> hello
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:17] **rhett> hello
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:28] **carpenike> I'm getting this error when attempting to install Zenoss with either the SVN or current stable release
[20-Oct-2008 16:40:31] **carpenike> install-functions.sh: line 65: 16761 Segmentation fault mysql -h ${MYSQLHOST} -u ${MYSQLUSER} --port=${MYSQLPORT} -p"${MYSQLPASS}" < /dev/null > /dev/null
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:16] **carpenike> mysql install, user or password is incorrect
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:26] **carpenike> I'm pretty certain the password is correect.
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:33] **rhett> hm
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:34] **carpenike> I've typed it in several times and when I run mysql -u root -p
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:37] **carpenike> I can login fine.
[20-Oct-2008 16:41:51] **rhett> i havnt seen that myself but im not an expert. what os?
[20-Oct-2008 16:42:02] **carpenike> Gentoo
[20-Oct-2008 16:48:33] **rhett> hm
[20-Oct-2008 16:49:05] **rhett> what i am reading (translated from a chinese website) suggests that maybe its an issue with your mysql version?
[20-Oct-2008 16:49:16] **rhett> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxnotes.cn%2F%3Fp%3D74&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en
[20-Oct-2008 16:49:27] **rhett> thats about as much help as i can be. sorry :\
[20-Oct-2008 17:02:55] **carpenike> okay!
[20-Oct-2008 17:02:56] **carpenike> Thanks!
[20-Oct-2008 17:16:55] **rhett> np
[20-Oct-2008 18:02:26] **|-Rkoz-|> good afternoon....i'm new Zenoos and I'm trying out the WMI feature...if I go to the Zproperties of a Windows Server, I have the "zWinPassword" and "ZWinUser" setup with a domain admin account. It does not seem that I can connect and I just get errors. i believe the 2 services listed in the admin guide are running on the target server
[20-Oct-2008 18:04:26] **jmp242> What version is the Windows Server?
[20-Oct-2008 18:08:29] **|-Rkoz-|> windows 2003 standard
[20-Oct-2008 18:08:46] **jmp242> Hmmm. Did you use DOMAIN\user for the username?
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:21] **|-Rkoz-|> i did
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:32] **carpenike> rhett: FYI: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6130&highlight=segmentation+fault
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:46] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Intall failing (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:14:49] **jmp242> What is the specific error?
[20-Oct-2008 18:15:09] **|-Rkoz-|> one min, i will get it for you
[20-Oct-2008 18:16:22] **|-Rkoz-|> WMI connect error on ehcc01.jmhosp.org: 88: DOS code 0x00000058
[20-Oct-2008 18:19:11] **|-Rkoz-|> interesting...maybe it is just that server....
[20-Oct-2008 18:19:58] **sn1ffer72> has anyone noticed that when things items that cannot be polled constantly create error messages such as trying to use a RedHat mib to poll a solaris box
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:00] **|-Rkoz-|> if i look at another server....(under 'status') it lists the "cpupercentprocessortime" ; "memoriavilabileKBytes"
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:17] **|-Rkoz-|> is that stuff pulled from WMI?
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:17] **sn1ffer72> yeah..those memAvailKbytes etc
[20-Oct-2008 18:20:59] **jmp242> I think this is a bug... I've see this thread: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=15967#15967
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:12] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zeneventlog: ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: 2.1.2 VM Appliance (at forums.zenoss.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:15] **jmp242> 2.3 is supposed to have reworked WMI to fix some of these
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:22] **jmp242> Note, I am not experianceing it however
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:39] **jmp242> that DOS CODE might be worthwhile looking at as that's what Windows is saying
[20-Oct-2008 18:21:58] **|-Rkoz-|> ok, when did 2.3 come out? i've been running this for <1 month
[20-Oct-2008 18:22:37] **jmp242> It's not out yet
[20-Oct-2008 18:22:43] **|-Rkoz-|> oh =)
[20-Oct-2008 18:22:45] **jmp242> Supposed to be sometime November
[20-Oct-2008 18:23:16] **jmp242> Note it's the numeric version of ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT
[20-Oct-2008 18:23:31] **jmp242> Which usually has to do with somehow the windows PC not accepting the username/password IME with Zenoss
[20-Oct-2008 18:23:46] **jmp242> but some users just get it no matter what - per that forum topic
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:00] **jmp242> What OS are you running Zenoss on?
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:42] **|-Rkoz-|> i downloaded the Virtual Machine
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:53] **sn1ffer72> I have oids under /Devices/Server/Templates/Devices that I would like to just have under something like /Devices/Server/Linux/Templates so I can ensure a solaris box is not getting polled with oids that it cannot respond to (that creates error messages)
[20-Oct-2008 18:24:57] **|-Rkoz-|> The VM Server is running Windows 2003 Enterprise
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:08] **sn1ffer72> has anyone had to deal with that..
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:36] **jmp242> Ahh, I've seen lots of issues with the VM for some reason. I definatley had a more stable Zenoss experiance once I went to CENTOS5
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:45] **|-Rkoz-|> hmmm
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:47] **sn1ffer72> Did you give the VM enough ram
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:48] **sn1ffer72> ?
[20-Oct-2008 18:25:59] **|-Rkoz-|> i left it as default which i think is 1gb
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:04] **sn1ffer72> I had soo many issues with their default vmware appliance
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:21] **sn1ffer72> that i rebuilt my own VM with centos and installed the binaries and it works 10x better
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:41] **|-Rkoz-|> interesting
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:44] **jmp242> I'm telling you, if you're having odd issues with Zenoss, try it on CENTOS5... many many issues go away
[20-Oct-2008 18:26:53] **sn1ffer72> the vmware appliance that is downloaded able does not even come with basic commands such as yum or even "rpm"
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:09] **mrayzenoss> it's not rpm-based
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:17] **jmp242> unless you're a linux expert with your distro, you'll see other OSs (SuSE, Debian,etc) in the forums with problems a bunch
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:18] **mrayzenoss> it's rPath, which uses conary
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:18] **sn1ffer72> I know
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:26] **sn1ffer72> but I needed other rpms installed
[20-Oct-2008 18:27:59] **sn1ffer72> on top of not having yum, up2date, rpm there were many other cmds missing as well
[20-Oct-2008 18:28:28] **sn1ffer72> the reinstall only took a few mins
[20-Oct-2008 18:28:43] **sn1ffer72> just install centos.. make sure you install mysql before you run the zenoss install
[20-Oct-2008 18:28:49] **sn1ffer72> and you will be up in a few mins
[20-Oct-2008 18:29:10] **sn1ffer72> then backup the zenoss on the old box and reimport them in the new box
[20-Oct-2008 18:29:23] **|-Rkoz-|> well, i only know enough Linux to do some basic navigation...should I wait for 2.3 to come out and do a build from scratch? I'm using Ubuntu for somet other open source stuff we are running
[20-Oct-2008 18:29:46] **|-Rkoz-|> sn1ffer72: ok, that sounds easy enough...
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:16] **|-Rkoz-|> how are upgrades handled? if i get up and running with 2.2.4....how difficult will it be for a linux novice to migrate?
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:32] **|-Rkoz-|> (migrate to 2.3)
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:34] **jmp242> Upgrades in 2.2.4 was very easy compared to previously
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:47] **sn1ffer72> yeah
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:52] **jmp242> if they do the same stuff with 2.3, it'll basically be shut it off, run update, turn on
[20-Oct-2008 18:30:59] **sn1ffer72> and the 2.2.4 actually can load those EL5 zenpacks
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:03] **|-Rkoz-|> excellent
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:14] **sn1ffer72> do not try to install a EL5 zenpack in 2.2.3 as it will hose the install
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:43] **|-Rkoz-|> dumb question: what is the EL5 Zenpack?
[20-Oct-2008 18:31:46] **jmp242> However, I will say this - if you want to be able to use Zenoss, expect to spend time learning about Linux, SNMP, and Zenoss at the minimum
[20-Oct-2008 18:34:39] **mrayzenoss> We should have a new Getting Started Guide out in the next day or 2
[20-Oct-2008 18:34:58] **|-Rkoz-|> cool. I'll keep an eye out for it
[20-Oct-2008 18:35:02] **mrayzenoss> that will help you setup monitoring Linux and Windows boxes and familiarize you with the system
[20-Oct-2008 18:35:14] **malbon> hola folks
[20-Oct-2008 18:36:11] **sn1ffer72> Rkoz.. EL5 is just a newer version of zenpacks
[20-Oct-2008 18:36:25] **sn1ffer72> I smoked like 5 installs of 2.2.3 by trying to install those EL5s
[20-Oct-2008 18:36:46] **malbon> EL5 is for Enterprise Linux 5 (or Redhat EL 5)
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:03] **jmp242> I like using EL5 to refer to any of the derivitaves of RHEL5 . . .
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:12] **|-Rkoz-|> oh, ok....hopefully that getting started guide will get me up to speed...
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:21] **rhett> carpenike: interesting. neat.
[20-Oct-2008 18:37:48] **mrayzenoss> |-Rkoz-|: that's the goal, feedback is appreciated
[20-Oct-2008 18:38:07] **mrayzenoss> sn1ffer72: the EL5 ZenPack bundle?
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:02] **malbon> mrayzenoss: is there a good document on GetTableMap? I am having some difficulty with an HP Mib
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:12] **sn1ffer72> NICE.. I found out how to solve my prob above
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:36] **sn1ffer72> select Classes -> Devices -> Templates
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:48] **sn1ffer72> select "Device" and from the dropdown select copy template
[20-Oct-2008 18:41:56] **sn1ffer72> /Device/Server/Linux
[20-Oct-2008 18:42:13] **sn1ffer72> http://support.ipmonitor.com/mibs_byoidtree.aspx?oid=1.3.6.1.2.1#h
[20-Oct-2008 18:42:26] **adytum-bot> Title: ipMonitor Support Portal :: Mibs (at support.ipmonitor.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:44:07] **|-Rkoz-|> will the
[20-Oct-2008 18:44:15] **|-Rkoz-|> "getting started"guide be here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[20-Oct-2008 18:44:22] **adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:15] **mrayzenoss> malbon: not that I can find
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:26] **mrayzenoss> |-Rkoz-|: yes it will be on the docs page
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:41] **malbon> mrayzenoss: no prob.
[20-Oct-2008 18:48:57] **mrayzenoss> |-Rkoz-|: I just went and asked the doc writer about it, she said it has a few tiny details that are 2.3 specific, but it will probably come out before the release
[20-Oct-2008 18:49:08] **malbon> mrayzenoss: if I haven't solved it by the next devt meeting, I'll raise it then.
[20-Oct-2008 18:50:01] **mrayzenoss> sounds good
[20-Oct-2008 18:52:42] **sn1ffer72> ok back in the saddle..
[20-Oct-2008 18:52:59] **sn1ffer72> has anyone graphed output that they produced from a nagios check command?
[20-Oct-2008 18:53:05] **sn1ffer72> I can do the fault up / down stuff
[20-Oct-2008 18:53:18] **sn1ffer72> but now I wanna graph a datapoint that was part of the response
[20-Oct-2008 18:54:46] **jmp242> Shouldnt' be that hard sn1ffer72
[20-Oct-2008 18:55:14] **jmp242> At least, I've used the output of stuff|datapoint=value
[20-Oct-2008 18:55:18] **jmp242> to graph stuff
[20-Oct-2008 18:56:09] **jmp242> so, I would think you can just use a template with the datasource named whatever and the datapoint named as above
[20-Oct-2008 18:56:33] **jmp242> When I make my own scripts I do Datasource|Datapoint=value
[20-Oct-2008 18:56:45] **jmp242> as output, but I think Nagios can be more wordy with the Datasource area
[20-Oct-2008 18:57:11] **jmp242> does that make any sense?
[20-Oct-2008 19:04:00] **sn1ffer72> ok and "stuff" is the text of the returned string?
[20-Oct-2008 19:04:55] **sn1ffer72> such as
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:16] **jmp242> well, the stuff is whatever gets put before the |
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:26] **jmp242> it seems like it can be anything from what I've read
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:29] **sn1ffer72> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 10095 bytes in 0.140 seconds |time=0.139654s;;;0.000000 size=10095B;;;0
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:48] **sn1ffer72> that was output from check_http -H www.yahoo.com
[20-Oct-2008 19:05:49] **jmp242> Right - the "stuff" before the | is ignored pretty much ... as far as I can tell
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:06] **jmp242> You'd want a datasource named whatever you like
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:19] **jmp242> and datapoints named EXACTLY what comes before the =
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:21] **sn1ffer72> ok so datacouse responsesecs
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:23] **jmp242> so time, size
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:25] **sn1ffer72> ah
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:35] **sn1ffer72> so datasource time
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:40] **jmp242> only issue I see is the ;;;
[20-Oct-2008 19:06:51] **jmp242> I've only gotten straight numbers to work
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:21] **jmp242> though I've actually never tried additional characters due to the guides implying you want numbers . . .
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:34] **jmp242> I'd give it a shot
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:42] **sn1ffer72> ok
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:45] **jmp242> Once you have the datapoints created
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:46] **sn1ffer72> give me a few mns
[20-Oct-2008 19:07:59] **jmp242> go up and define the graphs like you want, choosing your datapoint of interest
[20-Oct-2008 19:15:22] **sn1ffer72> ok I created it .. time to wait and see
[20-Oct-2008 19:15:33] **sn1ffer72> I created the datapoints called time and size
[20-Oct-2008 19:27:15] **jmp242> did you do the graph definitions?
[20-Oct-2008 19:40:27] **sn1ffer72> yeah
[20-Oct-2008 19:40:40] **sn1ffer72> gauge
[20-Oct-2008 19:44:53] **jmp242> Hope for the best then
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:06] **sn1ffer72> yeah.. I am doing it on my test bo
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:07] **sn1ffer72> x
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:14] **sn1ffer72> so it is A LOT slower
[20-Oct-2008 19:45:42] **sn1ffer72> if that works I am going to be sooo pumped up
[20-Oct-2008 19:54:36] **sn1ffer72> yes SIR
[20-Oct-2008 19:54:47] **sn1ffer72> it is gathering the data
[20-Oct-2008 19:55:18] **sn1ffer72> so for everyone else out there this is what I did
[20-Oct-2008 19:55:32] **sn1ffer72> Step 1.. go to the command line and test the following check
[20-Oct-2008 19:56:51] **sn1ffer72> f
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:03] **sn1ffer72> #check_http
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:09] **sn1ffer72> with -H
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:20] **sn1ffer72> it comes back with
[20-Oct-2008 19:57:20] **sn1ffer72> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 10095 bytes in 0.072 seconds |time=0.071971s;;;0.000000 size=10095B;;;0
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:02] **sn1ffer72> select any node
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:15] **sn1ffer72> from the drop down select More -> Templates
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:21] **sn1ffer72> Add template
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:34] **sn1ffer72> name it.. check_http_rsptime
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:36] **sn1ffer72> or whatever
[20-Oct-2008 19:58:59] **sn1ffer72> for data source give it a name.. I used check_http_rsptime again
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:12] **sn1ffer72> under the type use COMMAND
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:27] **sn1ffer72> in the command template box type in the /home/zenoss/libexec/check_http
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:33] **sn1ffer72> with the -H
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:41] **sn1ffer72> then for data points
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:52] **sn1ffer72> select "Add Datapoint"
[20-Oct-2008 19:59:59] **sn1ffer72> name "size"
[20-Oct-2008 20:00:08] **sn1ffer72> type "Gauge"
[20-Oct-2008 20:00:21] **sn1ffer72> and do the same for a datapoint called "time"
[20-Oct-2008 20:00:58] **sn1ffer72> then go back to your "select node" -> more -> templates
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:15] **sn1ffer72> click on check_http_rsptime
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:31] **sn1ffer72> on the bottom where it says "Graph Definitions"
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:38] **sn1ffer72> select "Add Graph"
[20-Oct-2008 20:01:58] **sn1ffer72> give it a name that is one of those values before the =
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:02] **sn1ffer72> like "time"
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:12] **sn1ffer72> then inside of that select Graph Points
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:19] **sn1ffer72> Add datapoint
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:38] **sn1ffer72> and select the one you created called http_resptime_time
[20-Oct-2008 20:02:51] **sn1ffer72> save and your in business
[20-Oct-2008 20:03:55] **sn1ffer72> Thanks again "jmp242"
[20-Oct-2008 20:04:40] **jmp242> np
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[21-Oct-2008 12:59:52] **jmp242> Anyone know what would cause Zenprocess to suddenly die?
[21-Oct-2008 12:59:59] **jmp242> I have in my log
[21-Oct-2008 12:59:59] **jmp242> 2008-10-21 04:22:28 INFO zen.zenprocess: There are 21 pids by the name usr_sbin_httpd
[21-Oct-2008 12:59:59] **jmp242> 2008-10-21 04:23:07 ERROR zen.zenprocess: performance scan job not finishing: 8 jobs running 0 jobs waiting 1 jobs finished
[21-Oct-2008 13:00:07] **jmp242> and now it's just doing the error...
[21-Oct-2008 13:00:39] **jmp242> looks like some jobs aren't finishing?
[21-Oct-2008 13:03:27] **jmp242> hmmm. . . a restart seems to have fixed it...
[21-Oct-2008 13:29:15] **jmp242> Hey, anyone know anything about performance monitoring/logging for ZenSyslog? It isn't actually logging anything I can see...
[21-Oct-2008 15:24:04] **yam655> Does anyone here know if there are known issues with running zenoss-plugins (via SSH) using Python 2.5 ?
[21-Oct-2008 15:25:38] **mrayzenoss> I haven't heard of any
[21-Oct-2008 15:26:13] **yam655> Excellent. I'll assume it is user-error or a configuration issue on my part, then.
[21-Oct-2008 15:28:49] **monrad> anyone integrating splunk and zenoss?
[21-Oct-2008 15:30:40] **nemo_> splunk ?
[21-Oct-2008 15:30:56] **nemo_> i guess thats a no from me
[21-Oct-2008 15:31:07] **nemo_> yam655, AFAIK you need 2.4
[21-Oct-2008 15:31:31] **jmp242> How would you integrate Splunk and Zenoss? Don't they sort of overlap?
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:00] **nemo_> Python 2.4.3 on centos5.2
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:31] **nemo_> /opt/zenoss/bin/python - thats my default python
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:39] **nemo_> i have a feeling the zenoss install made it that way
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:41] **yam655> nemo_: Really? I'm using Ubuntu 8.04. I can install Python 2.4, but it is no longer the default.
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:42] **monrad> jmp242: i am thiking about making alerts from splunk into zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:55] **mrayzenoss> nemo_: He was asking about the Zenoss-Plugins, for remote calls
[21-Oct-2008 15:32:57] **yam655> It stinks that I'll need to have two versions of Python. One for the OS, and another for Zenoss.
[21-Oct-2008 15:33:08] **monrad> so integrate is perhapse a bit much
[21-Oct-2008 15:33:43] **jmp242> Ahh I see.
[21-Oct-2008 15:34:17] **yam655> mrayzenoss: nemo_ may well be right. I asked because I found that zenplugin.py --list-platforms doesn't appear to work -- and I think that only started happening with Python 2.5.
[21-Oct-2008 15:34:45] **jmp242> Are you thinking about having splunk do (something) and then pass on to Zenoss for the dashboarding? So using free Splunk (maybe several) reporting into Zenoss Core somehow?
[21-Oct-2008 15:37:51] **monrad> jmp242: maybe just one splunk and pay for it, i dont know their prices, but we have a lot of odd syslog events from routers and such, like trying to figure which bgp up and down events correlate to each other and suchs i feel its easier to do in spunk
[21-Oct-2008 15:38:45] **yam655> Eh. Downgrading to Python 2.4 (with #!/usr/bin/python24 in zenplugin.py) didn't make --list-platforms start working. Looks like that was broken earlier. I'll see if it is filed.
[21-Oct-2008 15:39:22] **kgoedtel> I want to make a custom python script in zenoss that I can output event data so that another system can retrieve the info. I can find information for dumping device data but haven't had any luck getting the event stuff out. Anyone familiar?
[21-Oct-2008 15:40:58] **yam655> kgoedtel: Isn't the event data stored in the MySQL database? The name of the database is "zenoss_events". I've not played with it, but I would probably start looking there.
[21-Oct-2008 15:41:25] **kgoedtel> yeah i know i could just get it from the mysql database, but i didnt really want to do it that way :[
[21-Oct-2008 15:41:46] **jmp242> Hmmm, I wonder what the peak daily volume of raw uncompressed data indexed is, or how to figure that out prior to purchasing anything
[21-Oct-2008 15:47:54] **monrad> jmp242: i think its how many megabytes you throw at it
[21-Oct-2008 15:48:09] **monrad> so its easy to figure out for syslog
[21-Oct-2008 15:50:40] **jmp242> oh?
[21-Oct-2008 15:50:51] **jmp242> Any idea what the average is?
[21-Oct-2008 16:08:46] **yam655> I really wish Zenoss conformed to the FSSTND.
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:03] **jmp242> hmm?
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:18] **jmp242> Zenoss installs in /opt/zenoss for me on CENTOS5.2 w/ RPM
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:26] **jmp242> isn't that appropriate for the FSSTND?
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:36] **yam655> jmp242: Yeah, and /opt/zenoss should be the path everywhere.
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:43] **yam655> Its default path is /usr/local/zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 16:13:52] **jmp242> I didn't understand that change
[21-Oct-2008 16:14:10] **jmp242> it's been /opt/zenoss in RPM for a long time IIRC, at least since 1.1.1 ...
[21-Oct-2008 16:14:10] **yam655> jmp242: /usr/local should mirror /usr
[21-Oct-2008 16:14:39] **jmp242> maybe mrayzenoss can find out why they changed from /opt/zenoss for the stack installer
[21-Oct-2008 16:18:22] **mrayzenoss> sorry, I was away.
[21-Oct-2008 16:18:41] **yam655> I figured the /usr/local/zenoss path came from a BSD-ism that the Apache and MySQL people picked up for their defaults.
[21-Oct-2008 16:18:42] **mrayzenoss> /opt/zenoss is how BitRock does their stuff, since the installer is for Linux/OSX/Solaris
[21-Oct-2008 16:19:01] **mrayzenoss> errr... the other way
[21-Oct-2008 16:19:06] **mrayzenoss> /usr/local/zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 16:19:34] **jmp242> Hmm, so OSX and Solaris don't do /opt ??
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:00] **mrayzenoss> my OSX box doesn't
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:04] **jmp242> Ahh
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:10] **jmp242> That makes some sense then
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:11] **yam655> mrayzenoss: It is also why I had to roll my own /debian package logic. I see /usr/local/zenoss and my stomach churns.
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:26] **mrayzenoss> and of course we're always trying to fix issues based on assumed paths
[21-Oct-2008 16:20:27] **yam655> mrayzenoss: The Debian/Ubuntu folks won't let it be a standard package until it gets fixed.
[21-Oct-2008 16:21:07] **mrayzenoss> yam655: I actually started up a conversation with Ubuntu last week. Met with them at Ohio LinuxFest
[21-Oct-2008 16:21:24] **mrayzenoss> it'll take awhile, but we're hoping to get something eventually for Hardy
[21-Oct-2008 16:21:54] **yam655> Excellent. I first heard about Zenoss at the Ohio Linuxfest in 2007.
[21-Oct-2008 16:22:21] **mrayzenoss> where you there 2 weeks ago?
[21-Oct-2008 16:22:42] **yam655> mrayzenoss: No. Not this year. I've got a wee little baby now.
[21-Oct-2008 16:23:05] **yam655> The little girl arrived three months early, so I'm missing a number of things to stay near the hospital.
[21-Oct-2008 16:23:31] **mrayzenoss> sorry to hear that, that's definitely more important
[21-Oct-2008 16:24:12] **jmp242> Is there a bug report on the zensyslog performance issue where it can fall behind on lots of syslog entries?
[21-Oct-2008 16:24:29] **yam655> mrayzenoss: But my job likes to send me to conferences and things, so I'll probably catch you at one in 2009 or so.
[21-Oct-2008 16:24:41] **mrayzenoss> I'll be at LISA next month
[21-Oct-2008 16:25:01] **mrayzenoss> working on a Deki/Zenoss mashup to demo with them
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:00] **yam655> mrayzenoss: It sounds fun. LISA is a conference I want to attend at some point. My baby isn't expected out of the hospital until December/January -- and that's if things go smoothly. (As they have so far.)
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:21] **mrayzenoss> jmp242: I don't see any syslog tickets specific to performance. If you have anything concrete you can put in a ticket like errors in logs that might help get some attention
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:38] **jmp242> Well, just something like in this post:
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:38] **jmp242> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7757&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=syslog
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:40] **mrayzenoss> yam655: Good luck.
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:52] **jmp242> I didn't have problems initially
[21-Oct-2008 16:27:55] **adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Syslog delay of writing events (at forums.zenoss.com)
[21-Oct-2008 16:28:15] **jmp242> but now with 30 access points, I'm seeing some events on the webinterface to the access point that aren't showing up in a timely manner as events in Zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 16:29:48] **jmp242> I'll try and get a ticket with specifics in after lunch
[21-Oct-2008 16:30:00] **mrayzenoss> jmp242: I see a couple of syslog tickets for 2.3, but the cut-off is getting close
[21-Oct-2008 16:31:23] **jmp242> I'll get something in and see if it can make 3.1 or something
[21-Oct-2008 16:31:27] **jmp242> err
[21-Oct-2008 16:31:28] **jmp242> 2.3.1
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:01] **jmp242> I mean, getting a bug in is the first step . . .
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:11] **mrayzenoss> open it against 2.3, we'll review it in the weekly bug review
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:33] **mrayzenoss> it'll probably get assigned to 2.4, but possibly back-ported to 2.3
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:37] **mrayzenoss> depending on the fix
[21-Oct-2008 16:32:52] **mrayzenoss> how much traffic are we talking about?
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:18] **jmp242> Well, for me it's not that high I don't think (part of my problem is figuring how much traffic this actually is)
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:28] **jmp242> I have 30 access points
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:43] **jmp242> which each send in client connect, disconnect and roam syslog, and SNMP traps
[21-Oct-2008 16:33:53] **jmp242> the traps seem to work as expected
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:10] **jmp242> syslog seems delayed, I don't know how much (a coworker saw this)
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:12] **rhett> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chickenhead
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:16] **rhett> damnit
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:26] **adytum-bot> Title: Urban Dictionary: chickenhead (at www.urbandictionary.com)
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:28] **rhett> second time that was supposed to go to efnet
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:35] **rhett> sorry
[21-Oct-2008 16:34:59] **jmp242> I guess they are sending on average a few a minute . . .
[21-Oct-2008 16:38:07] **mrayzenoss> that doesn't sound like it should be slow
[21-Oct-2008 16:39:16] **jmp242> Did you see that thread with heavier load in the forums?
[21-Oct-2008 16:40:07] **mrayzenoss> yeah, I'll try to get someone familiar with the syslog stuff to check it out
[21-Oct-2008 16:40:42] **jmp242> cool. I'll try and get more detailed info once my coworker gets back from lunch so we can play with it a little on our setup
[21-Oct-2008 16:54:17] **mrayzenoss> Chet says it's a mysql tuning issue
[21-Oct-2008 16:54:43] **mrayzenoss> I'll try to get a response on the thread about it
[21-Oct-2008 16:55:15] **mrayzenoss> he suggested http://wiki.mysqltuner.com/MySQLTuner
[21-Oct-2008 16:55:23] **adytum-bot> Title: MySQLTuner - MySQLTuner (at wiki.mysqltuner.com)
[21-Oct-2008 17:03:59] **jmp242> Chet - always good for the technical info!
[21-Oct-2008 17:33:39] **rhett> last week some one posted a link to the forums on how to create disk io graphs. does any one recall the url?
[21-Oct-2008 17:44:51] **jeld> hello all, how do I reset user's password from command line?
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:18] **sn1ffer72> Looks like you may be able to check disk i/o from one of these nagios checks
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:18] **sn1ffer72> https://trac.id.ethz.ch/projects/nagios_plugins
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:24] **adytum-bot> Title: nagios_plugins - Trac (at trac.id.ethz.ch)
[21-Oct-2008 17:50:58] **jmp242> disk IO for Linux or Windows ?
[21-Oct-2008 17:51:47] **jmp242> I know I was able to do some template creation
[21-Oct-2008 17:51:58] **jmp242> and enable UCDHardDisk map for Linux . . .
[21-Oct-2008 17:52:01] **jmp242> and get graphs
[21-Oct-2008 17:52:05] **jmp242> under OS tab though
[21-Oct-2008 17:53:19] **jmp242> hmmm, no I've got it for Windows too, possibly via the WMI zenpack?
[21-Oct-2008 17:53:30] **jmp242> it's not the same template or graphs as under Linux . . .
[21-Oct-2008 17:53:35] **jmp242> but is an IO graph
[21-Oct-2008 17:54:38] **rhett> wtf
[21-Oct-2008 17:54:56] **rhett> i cant walk it
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:13] **therealnemo> are you even using ucd ?
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:20] **therealnemo> most rh distros use net-snmp
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:26] **rhett> yeah
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:45] **rhett> im trying to back track. i had this stuff going fine on friday last week
[21-Oct-2008 17:55:59] **rhett> i had it worked on a test box in cacti
[21-Oct-2008 17:56:10] **rhett> snmpd is going
[21-Oct-2008 17:56:26] **rhett> im not sure, i will have to play more after lunch.
[21-Oct-2008 18:46:48] **sn1ffer72> does anyone know if there is a zenoss variable for index?
[21-Oct-2008 18:47:01] **sn1ffer72> snmp indexid
[21-Oct-2008 18:48:20] **sn1ffer72> kinda like ${device/id}
[21-Oct-2008 18:49:27] **sn1ffer72> I am trying to graph each CPU core
[21-Oct-2008 18:49:51] **sn1ffer72> oid 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2.
[21-Oct-2008 18:50:00] **sn1ffer72> hrProcessorLoad
[21-Oct-2008 18:50:28] **sn1ffer72> I can do each one statically per server, but that will not be fun for 500+ servers
[21-Oct-2008 18:53:31] **jmp242> Can you script it somehow? I think there isn't an indexid as there were posts about indexed values . . . on the forums . . .
[21-Oct-2008 18:54:25] **sn1ffer72> prob is even if I make a check command and take in the var of the cpu index
[21-Oct-2008 18:54:33] **sn1ffer72> I still will not be able to take in the cpu index
[21-Oct-2008 18:55:07] **sn1ffer72> ah.. unless I script walking the cpu and create a separate cpu1=;cpu2=
[21-Oct-2008 18:55:10] **sn1ffer72> good point
[21-Oct-2008 18:56:28] **sn1ffer72> still going to be hard then then I will have to setup a static template with datapoints for the max # cores that I will be taking the vars back from that check script
[21-Oct-2008 18:57:09] **jmp242> Hmmm... I think maybe an enhancement ticket/request?
[21-Oct-2008 19:21:59] **yam655> Shoot. Somehow upgrading from 2.2.0 to 2.2.4 has broken the AJAX menus on most of the pages. I'm hoping it is just the Apache-based proxy that is broken.
[21-Oct-2008 19:22:45] **sn1ffer72> ok.. I finished that code.. let me see if I can paste it in here. It's 15 lines
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> $host = $ARGV[0];
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> $community = $ARGV[1];
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> @ids = `snmpwalk -On -v 2c -c $community $host 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2`;
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **sn1ffer72> foreach $i (@ids) {
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:00] **adytum-bot> sn1ffer72: Error: 'ids' is not a valid command.
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:02] **sn1ffer72> if($i =~/1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2.(\d+)/) {
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:04] **sn1ffer72> $cpuid = $1;
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:06] **sn1ffer72> }
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:08] **sn1ffer72> if($i =~/:\s+(.*)/) {
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:10] **sn1ffer72> $cpuid_val = $1
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:12] **sn1ffer72> }
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:14] **sn1ffer72> push(@output, "cpu$cpuid\=$cpuid_val");
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:16] **sn1ffer72> }
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:18] **sn1ffer72> print "CPU Usage|@output";
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:34] **sn1ffer72> check_cpu_util
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:40] **sn1ffer72> or whatever you wanna call it
[21-Oct-2008 19:23:57] **sn1ffer72> put it in your /usr/local/zenoss/common/libexec
[21-Oct-2008 19:24:54] **jmp242> yam655: try clearing your cache in your browser
[21-Oct-2008 19:26:47] **jmp242> sn1ffer72: HMMM
[21-Oct-2008 19:26:55] **jmp242> they have really changed the dir structure
[21-Oct-2008 19:27:00] **jmp242> I have /opt/zenoss/libexe
[21-Oct-2008 19:27:12] **yam655> jmp242: Sweet. That fixed it. Thanks.
[21-Oct-2008 19:28:02] **jmp242> sn1ffer72: maybe you might post that to the zenoss wiki, or even create a zenpack?
[21-Oct-2008 19:30:40] **sn1ffer72> Nice.. I figured out how to use that wiki
[21-Oct-2008 19:30:56] **sn1ffer72> let me test this as far as charting .. if it works I will post it
[21-Oct-2008 19:31:12] **jmp242> great!
[21-Oct-2008 21:37:58] **psantos> hello everyone
[21-Oct-2008 21:38:15] **psantos> I'm running into a rather strange issue with zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:38:32] **psantos> currently doing an eval of the enterprise version on Centos 5.2
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:00] **psantos> until yesterday, everything was fine, but then the OS froze up, with the last message on the console being a python error message
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:12] **psantos> after reboot, everything comes up fine, including zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:18] **psantos> however, I can't access the web interface
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:39] **psantos> all the zenoss processes seem to be running fine, and I can't find any errors in the error log
[21-Oct-2008 21:39:55] **psantos> yet, the web interface is not up
[21-Oct-2008 21:40:28] **psantos> after doing some google searches, it seems the response to similar issues from others in the past has been to 'reinstall zenoss'
[21-Oct-2008 21:40:51] **therealnemo> is your mysql running
[21-Oct-2008 21:40:55] **psantos> yes, it is
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:06] **psantos> I can connect to it and see the events database fine
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:11] **therealnemo> ok
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:22] **psantos> iptables is not running, btw, so it's not an issue of connections being blocked
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:26] **therealnemo> have you been restarting zenoss as root user ?
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:36] **psantos> yes
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:47] **therealnemo> i think thats where you gone wrong
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:53] **psantos> using /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[21-Oct-2008 21:41:59] **therealnemo> always use zenoss ( su - zenoss )
[21-Oct-2008 21:42:18] **therealnemo> sometimes stuff gets messed up working as root ( not in the normal unix lesson way )
[21-Oct-2008 21:42:28] **therealnemo> i root everywhere, but i su - zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:42:39] **therealnemo> otherwise you will break it sooner or later
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:27] **psantos> the zenoss script in /etc/init.d exports RUNUSER to be zenoss
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:38] **therealnemo> probably a file owned by root or so thats stopping you starting
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:48] **psantos> so even though I may start it as root, the processes should be started as zenoss user
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:51] **therealnemo> i suggest also running JUST the init script wont break it
[21-Oct-2008 21:44:56] **psantos> and note, everything starts fine
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:04] **psantos> there are no error messages anywhere
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:08] **psantos> that's what's puzzling me
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:13] **therealnemo> we dont use the init script
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:22] **therealnemo> we su zenoss and do: zenoss restart
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:33] **psantos> you use the free or commercial version?
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:40] **therealnemo> your zope probably isnt starting
[21-Oct-2008 21:45:53] **therealnemo> i do but core is the same software
[21-Oct-2008 21:46:06] **therealnemo> ent is only extra functionalities
[21-Oct-2008 21:46:42] **therealnemo> did you check your logs btw ?
[21-Oct-2008 21:47:17] **psantos> yah
[21-Oct-2008 21:47:27] **psantos> you seem to be right about zope not starting
[21-Oct-2008 21:47:54] **therealnemo> i guess i know a little about these things
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:13] **psantos> http://pastebin.com/d379b0a56
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:14] **therealnemo> i broke zenoss many times
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:21] **adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:30] **psantos> zope seems to die silently
[21-Oct-2008 21:48:36] **therealnemo> do a status
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:08] **psantos> shows it as not running
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:11] **psantos> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:38] **therealnemo> ok find those root owned files if they exist
[21-Oct-2008 21:49:43] **psantos> yep
[21-Oct-2008 21:50:07] **therealnemo> repair that, su - zenoss, use zenoss restart and you will have less pain
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:02] **psantos> you know, it's strange though, because nothing has been changed on the machine
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:37] **psantos> we've restarted the daemons several times both via the web interface and command line in the past
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:44] **therealnemo> well i doubt its an x-file
[21-Oct-2008 21:51:44] **psantos> and this is the first time this happened
[21-Oct-2008 21:52:01] **psantos> well yah, no little green men here, I'm sure of it
[21-Oct-2008 21:52:08] **therealnemo> its messing with things as root for sure
[21-Oct-2008 21:53:00] **therealnemo> restarting something as root ( like zope or zeo , zensnperf etc ) will mangle things next time zenoss starts
[21-Oct-2008 21:54:01] **therealnemo> i totally agree the init script is a different matter, i just consider it a bad practice where zenoss is concerned, i like to see zenoss@ in my shell before i work on it
[21-Oct-2008 21:54:48] **psantos> understood
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:19] **psantos> therealnemo: I found out what the problem was
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:32] **psantos> it looks like the persistent cache was bad
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:40] **psantos> (probably caused by the crash)
[21-Oct-2008 22:18:58] **psantos> removing $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec fixed it
[21-Oct-2008 22:19:06] **psantos> thanks for the help
[21-Oct-2008 22:26:23] **explody> is there a way to force a check like the snmp agent check?
[21-Oct-2008 22:26:55] **therealnemo> psantos, ah kool. good stuff
[21-Oct-2008 22:27:35] **explody> and, does zenoss support the windows native snmpd out of the box?
[21-Oct-2008 22:53:08] **explody> ah, informant, ok
[21-Oct-2008 22:59:16] **magnachef> I think for the force check you need to create a command for it
[21-Oct-2008 23:10:14] **explody> wow some simple functions are surprisingly not simple or obvious
[21-Oct-2008 23:11:23] **magnachef> gotta know the reserved variables
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[22-Oct-2008 13:42:29] **tkrabec> Morning all
[22-Oct-2008 13:42:38] **nemo_> morno
[22-Oct-2008 13:43:35] **tkrabec> just stopping in, tring to get a feel for zenoss
[22-Oct-2008 15:07:34] **daMaestro> anyone using kerberos to auth users?
[22-Oct-2008 15:50:18] **cti-user> hey jimbob, have you ever installed 2.2.4?
[22-Oct-2008 15:50:30] **JimbobMcGrail> looks like I'm going to be pushing that one soon!
[22-Oct-2008 15:50:42] **cti-user> i haven't got it to install yet
[22-Oct-2008 15:51:01] **JimbobMcGrail> you don't wanna...not our way
[22-Oct-2008 15:56:25] **sn1ffer72> I have 2.2.4 installed
[22-Oct-2008 15:57:42] **tkrabec> would there be a reason to choose zenoss over ossim or do the do similar but different functions?
[22-Oct-2008 16:00:43] **sn1ffer72> sure.. you in the zenoss IRC channel
[22-Oct-2008 16:02:05] **sn1ffer72> it's better looking too
[22-Oct-2008 16:02:28] **nemo_> nothing like a decision made on technical criteria
[22-Oct-2008 16:03:10] **tkrabec> good answers, I'm glad it there was not a "religous" argument
[22-Oct-2008 16:03:22] **nemo_> lol
[22-Oct-2008 16:04:41] **tkrabec> I do tend to choose base on requirements, but I was just checking to see if there was anything outstanding separating the two, or if they preform differnt functions, as I;ve heard good things about both
[22-Oct-2008 16:08:37] **cti-user> sn1ffer72, did you install on centos5?
[22-Oct-2008 16:08:43] **JimbobMcGrail> isn't there a way, not from the web-gui, to do like a massive scan of nodes (IOS devices in particular), and import them?
[22-Oct-2008 16:08:58] **JimbobMcGrail> I can't remember...
[22-Oct-2008 16:12:42] **jmp242> discover devices?
[22-Oct-2008 16:13:31] **alougee> ello all
[22-Oct-2008 16:13:51] **JimbobMcGrail> yeah discover
[22-Oct-2008 16:14:09] **alougee> got a quick question....
[22-Oct-2008 16:14:42] **alougee> I want to be able to show a graph from zenoss in a page I am setting up with joomla...I want the graph to be dynamically updated
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:02] **alougee> anyone have any ideas about the authentication process to grab that graph and display it on an external site?
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:04] **sn1ffer72> cti-user.. yes centos5
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:16] **sn1ffer72> on a vmware vm that I created
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:22] **sn1ffer72> not the vmware appliance
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:30] **sn1ffer72> that appliance sucks
[22-Oct-2008 16:15:58] **sn1ffer72> JimBob.. you can import the devices in bulk
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:11] **cti-user> ohh cool. My install would hang importing objects into zeo database
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:33] **sn1ffer72> zenbatchload
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:40] **sn1ffer72> the file format should look like this
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:40] **JimbobMcGrail> $zenhome/bin but which command/options?
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:44] **sn1ffer72> /Devices/Windows
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:45] **sn1ffer72> host1
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:47] **sn1ffer72> host2
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:56] **sn1ffer72> /Devices/Server/Solaris
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:57] **sn1ffer72> host3
[22-Oct-2008 16:16:59] **sn1ffer72> host4
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:03] **JimbobMcGrail> I got it
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:08] **sn1ffer72> k
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:08] **JimbobMcGrail> whatever is after dmd in the url
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:14] **sn1ffer72> roger
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:20] **sn1ffer72> back in a bit
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:22] **JimbobMcGrail> now...mm
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:22] **JimbobMcGrail> wait
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:27] **JimbobMcGrail> which python script is it?
[22-Oct-2008 16:17:49] **JimbobMcGrail> zenbatchload I got it
[22-Oct-2008 16:23:39] **alougee> does anyone display perf graphs on external sites?
[22-Oct-2008 16:40:17] **alougee> anyone maybe?
[22-Oct-2008 16:48:53] **jmp242> alougee: no, because you have to authenticate with Zenoss I believe - you might look at the simple dashboard wiki entry... don't know if that could help.
[22-Oct-2008 16:49:27] **alougee> correct you have to authenticate...so there should be a way to pass the authentication
[22-Oct-2008 16:58:25] **justizin> alougee: sure, read up on zope, security is very modular and ui-configurable. i've been thinking of exposing zenoss data in a plone site..
[22-Oct-2008 16:58:59] **alougee> thank you
[22-Oct-2008 16:59:30] **justizin> everything in Zenoss UI, afaict, relies pretty heavily on CMF, the Content Management Framework, which has declarative, object-level security.
[22-Oct-2008 17:07:43] **justizin> i'd be glad to collab on a solution or ZenPack for some kind of public access to data.
[22-Oct-2008 17:08:26] **jmp242> I'd be interested in what you work out...
[22-Oct-2008 17:29:59] **alougee> http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/HowToSetupAZenossKioskOrOverviewMonitor/
[22-Oct-2008 17:30:04] **alougee> this does work out for my needs
[22-Oct-2008 17:30:16] **adytum-bot> Title: How to setup a Zenoss Kiosk or overview monitor - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Oct-2008 18:31:10] **ke4qqq> hey guys - having an interesting issue - looking at the rrd graphs there are 15 minute swaths of datamissing repeatedly followed by 30 minutes of data when the cycle repeats
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:07] **therealnemo> check the forums, its pretty well reported. not that interesting
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:23] **ke4qqq> ok - thanks therealnemo
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:33] **therealnemo> but there are quite a few reasons why too, so forums is best place
[22-Oct-2008 18:37:36] **therealnemo> nps
[22-Oct-2008 18:53:32] **kneer0w> does anyone here know Mark Hinkles' email address?
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[22-Oct-2008 19:04:24] **kneer0w> o_O
[22-Oct-2008 19:08:15] **crashdummyMCH> hi all. has anyone else had problems updating/saving Reports in zenoss 2.2.4?
[22-Oct-2008 19:36:09] **yam655> Where can I find the documentation on which daemon does which task? I need to do some troubleshooting, and I'm not sure where to start.
[22-Oct-2008 19:39:19] **jmp242> Dev Guide perhaps?
[22-Oct-2008 19:39:39] **jmp242> The daemons seem to be named pretty selfexplanatorily.
[22-Oct-2008 19:41:11] **yam655> jmp242: More-or-less self-explanatory, with some exceptions. I appear to have a problem with ./Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/cmd/linux/netstat_an.py I've no idea which one it is.
[22-Oct-2008 19:41:59] **jmp242> cmd ... probably ZenCommand or ZenActions?
[22-Oct-2008 19:42:08] **jmp242> I'm not really sure
[22-Oct-2008 19:42:53] **yam655> zencommand runs the zenplugins.py stuff, ignoring the DataCollector stuff.
[22-Oct-2008 19:43:46] **jmp242> Hmm, If it's collectors, it's usually zenperfsnmp or zenmodeler
[22-Oct-2008 19:43:58] **jmp242> depending on if it's doing a modeling or a performance collector
[22-Oct-2008 19:44:20] **jmp242> You might post to Zenoss-Dev
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:02] **jmp242> The only thing I've read about the daemons is in the adming guide, avoiding the dev guide for now
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:03] **jmp242> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.4/ch02s04.html
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:15] **jmp242> But it doesn't tell you what the back end is for those functions
[22-Oct-2008 19:45:21] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Oct-2008 19:46:59] **yam655> Okay. zenmodeler runs the commands. Now I just have no idea why it isn't recognizing the ports as being live. It is getting the right output. :/
[22-Oct-2008 19:53:12] **yam655> This is crappy. It sees the port when I don't tell it to monitor it. When I tell it to monitor it it fails. It works with another device.
[22-Oct-2008 19:57:01] **yam655> Okay. Now I just don't know how it works. I found the problem.
[22-Oct-2008 19:57:36] **yam655> I even fixed it. My firewall on that host was blocking the ports in question. I really thought it just checked the netstat output.
[22-Oct-2008 20:01:36] **yam655> Well... I thought that fixed it... arg.
[22-Oct-2008 20:07:50] **yam655> Yup. That was it after all. Huh. I'm not having it portscanned. I wasn't expecting that behavior.
[22-Oct-2008 20:08:40] **yam655> It is nice, mind you. Very effective. It just wasn't clear it was checking it that way.
[22-Oct-2008 21:50:36] **EricL> I am trying to convert my Nagios 3 setpu over to Zenoss. I see hints of a conversion utility but can't seem to find it.
[22-Oct-2008 21:51:35] **EricL> Thoughts?
[22-Oct-2008 21:56:13] **krphop> we just rebuilt ours, its probably easier, lol
[22-Oct-2008 21:56:55] **EricL> krphop: How many devices/services are you monitoring?
[22-Oct-2008 21:57:46] **krphop> over 250 devices
[22-Oct-2008 21:58:24] **krphop> @1 minute polling
[22-Oct-2008 21:58:24] **adytum-bot> krphop: Error: '1' is not a valid command.
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[23-Oct-2008 00:43:57] **justizin> anybody have zenoss wired up with frysk ?
[23-Oct-2008 00:44:11] **justizin> i find that process-level data i pull from snmpd is relatively worthless
[23-Oct-2008 00:44:42] **justizin> it alerts restarts of things that, afaik, aren't restarting, and its' resource usage knowledge is only as of polling intervals..
[23-Oct-2008 00:44:54] **justizin> frysk seems ideal for something that needs to be highly perf monitored.
[23-Oct-2008 00:45:19] **justizin> written in java, but can surely talk xml or whatever.
[23-Oct-2008 00:45:25] **justizin> maybe could power an snmp service.
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[23-Oct-2008 02:38:08] **asciii> hi..
[23-Oct-2008 02:38:14] **asciii> a quick question..
[23-Oct-2008 02:38:38] **rhettt> hi
[23-Oct-2008 02:38:59] **asciii> can zenoss do application monitoring? for example..a the duration ms word is used in a machine..
[23-Oct-2008 02:42:50] **asciii> anyone?
[23-Oct-2008 03:17:40] **rhettt> i dont know. im an amateur
[23-Oct-2008 03:24:41] **asciii> hrm..
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[23-Oct-2008 14:56:53] **kells> Hey Matt!
[23-Oct-2008 14:58:34] **mrayzenoss> Good morning Americas, good afternoon/evening everyone else
[23-Oct-2008 14:59:26] **kells> G'day, g'day
[23-Oct-2008 15:04:53] **kells> おはいよう　ございます
[23-Oct-2008 15:05:17] **spike_cb> hi is this the zenoss chat ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:05:22] **kells> Yep
[23-Oct-2008 15:05:42] **kells> Got a question, comment?
[23-Oct-2008 15:06:34] **spike_cb> yeah, we've been using Zenoss for about 3 months now. Its great but it has its quirks
[23-Oct-2008 15:06:36] **nemo_> d.setGroups(pgroup)
[23-Oct-2008 15:07:00] **nemo_> should that be d.setGroups("/Groups/Something/Something")
[23-Oct-2008 15:07:05] **nemo_> or another format
[23-Oct-2008 15:07:48] **kells> Thanks for the kind words
[23-Oct-2008 15:08:26] **kells> nemo: Could you provide a little more context? I'm not quite following you....
[23-Oct-2008 15:08:32] **spike_cb> We're running the Enterprise version 2.2.1
[23-Oct-2008 15:08:38] **kells> Nice!
[23-Oct-2008 15:09:47] **nemo_> kells, question is aimed at those who understand, no real point in explaining
[23-Oct-2008 15:09:52] **nemo_> i read all the docs, did you ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:10:02] **spike_cb> kells: we've got the problem with /perf/snmp going to some windows servers and complaining that F:\ or Y:\ drive is not mounted, which is kind of annoying
[23-Oct-2008 15:10:43] **kells> nemo: I try to read the code, not the docs
[23-Oct-2008 15:11:55] **kells> spike: This is using the Snmp Informant approach, I take it?
[23-Oct-2008 15:13:43] **spike_cb> kells: yes
[23-Oct-2008 15:14:43] **spike_cb> kells: is there any way to quickly disable that kind of drive check ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:15:01] **kells> If you go to the device's OS tab...
[23-Oct-2008 15:15:05] **kells> (going there now)
[23-Oct-2008 15:16:12] **spike_cb> kells: you mean deleting them off "File systems" ? they'll just pop right back in
[23-Oct-2008 15:16:29] **kells> Nope, there should be another option that you can set to ignore them
[23-Oct-2008 15:16:49] **kells> I can't find a windows box in the lab that I've got modeled so I'll just try another server
[23-Oct-2008 15:17:27] **spike_cb> hey mccools, its me
[23-Oct-2008 15:18:12] **kells> Find the FileSystem under the FileSystems table , click on teh drive, and then click on teh 'Monitor' checkbox
[23-Oct-2008 15:18:21] **kells> That should stop it from generating events
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:01] **spike_cb> kells: there's no checkbox for monitor for filesystems .. but if you do click on any drive, you'll get the drive properties and there's the "monitor" option with "true|false"
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:22] **spike_cb> kells: is that what you're referring to ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:26] **kells> Yes
[23-Oct-2008 15:20:30] **cluther> spike_cb: You could check out the zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames property. It is a regex that will cause any file systems that match it to not be modeled.
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:13] **kells> That's a much better way
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:20] **mrayzenoss> By my count there are at least 7 Zenoss folks in the channel, so we can probably cover most questions.
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:46] **mrayzenoss> I'm working on pushing out a new community beta, finally with stack installers
[23-Oct-2008 15:21:53] **spike_cb> cluther: yes thanks. I remember I put /F:/ or something there before but it didn't do anything
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:09] **cluther> spike_cb: Leave off the //s
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:24] **cluther> spike_cb: And remember to remodel the device after you change that property.
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:36] **spike_cb> cluther" ic, so its just the string to match then
[23-Oct-2008 15:22:39] **kells> nemo: It appears that it does take a list of group names
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:04] **cluther> spike_cb: It is a regular expression. You've been using Perl too long if you think regular expressions are always surrounded with forward slashes.
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:20] **spike_cb> cluther: oh remodel ? I haven't done that one before
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:35] **kells> ... or sed, vi....
[23-Oct-2008 15:23:55] **spike_cb> cluther: hehe yes, im a "use strict" type
[23-Oct-2008 15:25:12] **kells> [fFyY]: should do the trick, then, right?
[23-Oct-2008 15:26:19] **spike_cb> cluther: how do you remodel after changing the zProperties config ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:26:41] **cluther> spike_cb: Menu -> Manage -> Model Devce
[23-Oct-2008 15:27:55] **kells> The remodelling also occurs automatically every xx hours
[23-Oct-2008 15:28:20] **kells> 12?
[23-Oct-2008 15:28:37] **mccools> Hi all. First, thanks for hosting this!
[23-Oct-2008 15:28:51] **mccools> Second, I'm wondering about best practices for monitoring a hot/cold cluster. We have a lot of instances where we use ha.d to float a virtual IP and services between two physical machines. We have modeled this as a device for the "master service" and then two devices for the physical hardware itself, but we keep running into issues where attributes of the clustered service get associated with one of the physical machines only...
[23-Oct-2008 15:29:05] **spike_cb> cluther: ah~ ic .. so do you have to remodel a device everytime you change the zProperties ? or everytime you change anything
[23-Oct-2008 15:30:01] **kells> mccools: Is using the 'lock' on those attributes not working for you?
[23-Oct-2008 15:30:17] **mccools> Doesn't seem to, particularly lockings osprocesses
[23-Oct-2008 15:32:07] **mccools> kells: honestly it just seems inconsistent, it'll lock and work for awhile then weeks later we'll notice stuff is pinned directly on the device again. Possible we're remodeling and not relocking or something?
[23-Oct-2008 15:33:45] **kells> Is this after the migration from one node to another that you notice, or even if nothing is done to the service?
[23-Oct-2008 15:34:05] **kells> IIRC, you shouldn't need to re-lock
[23-Oct-2008 15:35:14] **mccools> kells: After migration is the only time we've noticed
[23-Oct-2008 15:36:09] **kells> So when you lock the service, it's on one of the physical nodes, right? Or does your virtual IP show up as a separate device in teh device list?
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[23-Oct-2008 15:37:03] **mccools> kells: The VIP is a seperate device, and we try to fully model that one with the 'cluster' resources. The physical machines are also their own device entries and we strip away cluster resources from the active one (since they're on the vip)
[23-Oct-2008 15:39:25] **kells> Do you have other os processes on the physical machines too? Chet's suggesting removing the HRSWRunMap from the list of collector plugins on the physicals
[23-Oct-2008 15:40:29] **mccools> kells: Nope, only ones we care about are the ones on the VIP. We're only really concerned with performance/services of the VIP, and the fact that the non-active physical machine is up, so that might work
[23-Oct-2008 15:45:27] **mccools> kells: I'll try to get something I can reproduce and then play around with removing that collector, thanks
[23-Oct-2008 15:45:48] **mccools> Are you guys going to be at LISA again this year?
[23-Oct-2008 15:45:54] **mrayzenoss> Yes
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:08] **mrayzenoss> I'll be there with npmccallum and 1 other Zenossian
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:32] **npmccallum> mrayzenoss: maybe
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:33] **mrayzenoss> I'll blog about it about a week before LISA
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:38] **nemo_> mrayzenoss, where can i find documentation on setGroups() function ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:46:58] **mccools> Great, well maybe I'll see you there; enjoyed the vendor bof last year (and you got an enterprise sale out of it)
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:16] **mrayzenoss> nemo_: not much in the API docs, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.2/ZenModel.Device.Device-class.html#setGroups
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:30] **adytum-bot> Title: ZenModel.Device.Device (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:31] **mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.2/identifier-index-S.html
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:47] **adytum-bot> Title: Identifier Index (at www.zenoss.com)
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:49] **mrayzenoss> oh quick heads up for everyone in the channel, search.zenoss.com is going live soon
[23-Oct-2008 15:48:56] **cgibbons> oooh
[23-Oct-2008 15:49:28] **mrayzenoss> it's publicly available, haven't hyped it yet. We got ourselves a google appliance for searching everything
[23-Oct-2008 15:52:36] **nemo_> mrayzenoss, should that be d.setGroups("/Groups/Something/Something")
[23-Oct-2008 15:52:50] **nemo_> its really not obvious at all.
[23-Oct-2008 15:53:00] **nemo_> i even grepped the code to find it
[23-Oct-2008 15:53:31] **cluther> nemo_: That's it.
[23-Oct-2008 15:55:27] **cluther> nemo_: oops.. it isn't it. d.setGroups("/Something/Something")
[23-Oct-2008 15:55:27] **cluther> nemo_: Leave off the leading /Groups
[23-Oct-2008 15:55:52] **nemo_> its d.setGroups() in my for loop
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:04] **nemo_> so what i have to do , send a ticket ?
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:18] **nemo_> i got a bunch of ppl wanting to set locations from a script
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:38] **nemo_> with or without /groups on the front it didnt work for me in a script
[23-Oct-2008 15:56:43] **nemo_> but worked fine in zendmd
[23-Oct-2008 15:57:20] **spike_cb> a general question guys, is it a good practice to do clear heartbeat, push changes and remodel to make sure that the change you put in take effect ?
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:29] **kells> The remodel should be necessary and sufficient
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:36] **kneer0w> oof.
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:37] **kneer0w> split -_-
[23-Oct-2008 16:01:50] **kells> Chet's mentioning that the 'push changes' shouldn't be necessary
[23-Oct-2008 16:02:28] **spike_cb> kells: ic thanks!
[23-Oct-2008 16:07:44] **mrayzenoss> Any quick questions, before a couple of us duck out?
[23-Oct-2008 16:08:24] **kells> I'm told that 'push changes' shouldn't generally be necessary except in a few cases:
[23-Oct-2008 16:08:35] **kells> * changes to relations
[23-Oct-2008 16:08:48] **kells> * deleting anything except a device
[23-Oct-2008 16:09:08] **kells> * possibly for support
[23-Oct-2008 16:09:46] **kells> ie support finds something strange that is not updating properly, and as a short term fix asks you to push changes
[23-Oct-2008 16:14:46] **mrayzenoss> Thanks again to everyone who showed up, we'll have the log up soon and we'll be back officially in 2 weeks, but Zenossians drop in from time to time.
[23-Oct-2008 16:30:10] **spike_cb> spike0ke
[23-Oct-2008 16:30:20] **spike_cb> sorry wrong window
[23-Oct-2008 16:31:21] **stevenblack> I'm having problems specifying an alternate "Page Command".
[23-Oct-2008 16:31:46] **stevenblack> I use a email gateway to send the pages. The documentation says that the page body is sent as the stdin, but my mail body is coming up as empty.
[23-Oct-2008 16:33:43] **stevenblack> Huh. Looks like a problem with the GNU mailutils. A cat-based test shows it should work.
[23-Oct-2008 16:34:14] **stevenblack> Hmm... I wonder if it is creating a PTY...
[23-Oct-2008 16:39:54] **stevenblack> Okay. As near as I can tell, the page command is generating a PTY to call the command. This interferes with the GNU mailutils which asks for a CC if a PTY is available.
[23-Oct-2008 16:40:02] **stevenblack> I switched to 'mailto' and the problem disappeared.
[23-Oct-2008 16:49:27] **stevenblack> I've not seen how to configure the URLs generated in the error notifications. Is it documented somewhere?
[23-Oct-2008 16:50:02] **stevenblack> I have Zenoss trapped behind Apache. No direct Zope access unless I'm forwarding the port to test something.
[23-Oct-2008 16:51:23] **stevenblack> Ah. I found it.
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[23-Oct-2008 21:38:04] **rdb> How can I link directly to the Google Map with nothing else (no header/toolbar) on the screen?
[23-Oct-2008 21:38:28] **rdb> s/toolbar/menubar
[23-Oct-2008 21:38:34] **rdb> basically no dashboard at all
[23-Oct-2008 21:55:42] **rdb> looks like I need to learn zope to do that
[23-Oct-2008 22:04:47] **rdb> ah I see how it works a bit, simpleLocationGeoMap does what I need.
[23-Oct-2008 22:05:08] **rdb> hmm kidna no data poitns.
[23-Oct-2008 22:44:58] **atoshniw> Hello all
[23-Oct-2008 22:48:38] **atoshniw> Can somebody tell me how to monitor activemq on Zenoss using JMX
[23-Oct-2008 23:17:35] **ke4qqq> hey guys - I am looking to move the heavy file I/O in zenoss to a dedicated directory - should I just be looking at /opt/zenoss/perf or something more?
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[24-Oct-2008 05:26:59] **raddy> Anybody out there??/
[24-Oct-2008 05:49:05] **raddy> Anybody there???
[24-Oct-2008 10:20:40] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[24-Oct-2008 10:21:29] **raddy> Is it possible to monitor process's performance (Memory Usage) when we monitor a device via ssh?
[24-Oct-2008 12:54:45] **ke4qqq-afk> hey guys - I am trying to move the heavy disk IO stuff to another set of spindles
[24-Oct-2008 12:55:03] **ke4qqq-afk> is /opt/zenoss/perf the only thing I need to move or is there more?
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[24-Oct-2008 12:58:34] **tkrabec> no clue, I just started lurking here
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[24-Oct-2008 14:59:55] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: well, it depends
[24-Oct-2008 15:00:07] **npmccallum> usually its /opt/zenoss/perf
[24-Oct-2008 15:00:25] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: however, if your disk load is being created by events, then its mysql
[24-Oct-2008 15:11:39] **ke4qqq> well I am pushing mysql to a different spindle as well, but that's easy
[24-Oct-2008 15:11:58] **ke4qqq> just wanted to make sure htat there wasn't some other place Ishould be looking at
[24-Oct-2008 15:16:59] **nemo2> perhaps use innodb instead of myisam
[24-Oct-2008 15:17:06] **nemo2> on the new mysql set up
[24-Oct-2008 15:17:48] **ke4qqq> k
[24-Oct-2008 15:22:10] **npmccallum> ke4qqq: don't bother with innodb
[24-Oct-2008 15:36:44] **SEJeff> nemo2, myisam does writes faster than innodb. zenoss should write to mysql more than read if my understanding is correct
[24-Oct-2008 15:41:53] **nemo2> thats not the advice given to me by zenoss, but i am no mysql expert , i did have mysql perf issues. but i moved to innodb and seperate splindles. helped allot
[24-Oct-2008 15:42:15] **nemo2> spindles*
[24-Oct-2008 16:26:43] **alougee> hello all
[24-Oct-2008 16:27:08] **alougee> hoping someone could answer a question about check_ntp_peer
[24-Oct-2008 16:27:26] **alougee> this command will show an offset
[24-Oct-2008 16:27:54] **alougee> however i am not sure how the offset is calculated...what time is it referencing to be offset
[24-Oct-2008 17:44:46] **npmccallum> nemo2: it depends a lot on your use case
[24-Oct-2008 17:45:27] **nemo2> we do have more reads than writes i think
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[26-Oct-2008 00:01:21] **Bullterd> Hey All
[26-Oct-2008 00:01:33] **Bullterd> Im having Reaall trouble getting zenoss to monitor a windows XP Box
[26-Oct-2008 00:01:49] **Bullterd> 2008-10-26 00:59:13 INFO zen.DeviceLoader Device 192.168.2.51 loaded!
[26-Oct-2008 00:01:58] **Bullterd> Yet I see no device anywhere :S
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[26-Oct-2008 02:34:21] **nemo2> Bullterd, not in Discovered ?
[26-Oct-2008 02:42:26] **Bullterd> nemo2: Discovered ?
[26-Oct-2008 02:42:59] **nemo2> /Devices/Discovered
[26-Oct-2008 02:43:11] **Bullterd> Nope
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[27-Oct-2008 13:49:37] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[27-Oct-2008 13:49:54] **raddy> I have a correctly configured snmpd
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:06] **raddy> Firewall ports opened for smpd
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:10] **raddy> snmpd
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:26] **raddy> But i am unable to monitor the machine
[27-Oct-2008 13:50:43] **raddy> Both are running linux
[27-Oct-2008 13:51:08] **raddy> can anybody help me?
[27-Oct-2008 13:52:11] **nemo_> can you snmpwalk it from your zenoss box
[27-Oct-2008 13:52:13] **nemo_> ?
[27-Oct-2008 14:01:33] **raddy> nemo_: i am not even add the device
[27-Oct-2008 14:03:03] **cgibbons> snmpwalk is a command-line tool that will list the snmp values available from a device, outside of the zenoss application proper
[27-Oct-2008 14:03:23] **cgibbons> so if you run that it can tell if your problem lies within zenoss or within the device/network itself
[27-Oct-2008 14:03:42] **cgibbons> snmpwalk -Os -c public -v1 yourhostnamehere system
[27-Oct-2008 14:04:02] **nemo_> tx
i wasnt gonna do that, i think raddy can also read a man page [27-Oct-2008 14:08:57] **raddy> cgibbons : after starting up snmpd, i can snmpwalk
[27-Oct-2008 14:14:29] **raddy> cgibbons : nemo : when i go to that newly added remote device, go to Per, in graph i am seeing, Missing RRD File "hostname"
[27-Oct-2008 14:15:17] **raddy> cgibbons : nemo : it doesn't detect anything
except IP Address of the machine.[27-Oct-2008 14:18:03] **raddy> Can anybody shed some light???
[27-Oct-2008 14:23:14] **raddy> Anybody there???
[27-Oct-2008 14:28:28] **raddy> Anybody there?
[27-Oct-2008 16:41:09] **rhett> hello. a few weeks ago i added ip services to my servers in the linux class (they are centos5.2 vm's for what its worth). we noticed yesterday that for whatever reason all the ip services were gone. i added ftp and http service to only one of the hosts and an hour later the services had disappeared again! after that i re-added a single ip service of ftp which seemed to stick a little longer but is now gone. has any one else seen this
[27-Oct-2008 16:41:46] **rhett> oh. this was on two different zenoss servers on different nodes w/ the same effect.
[27-Oct-2008 20:12:40] **imperfect-> HOwdy
[27-Oct-2008 20:12:46] **rhett> hello
[27-Oct-2008 20:12:47] **imperfect-> Anyone know how the EDU licensing works?
[27-Oct-2008 20:13:02] **imperfect-> DO you get Enterprise functionality and is there a resource # limit?
[27-Oct-2008 20:13:35] **therealnemo> id contact sales imperfect-
[27-Oct-2008 20:13:41] **therealnemo> as per zenoss website
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:01] **imperfect-> Yeha
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:03] **imperfect-> I read the website.
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:09] **imperfect-> It's fscking expensive for enterprise
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:13] **therealnemo> all i can say is zenoss are flexible
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:15] **imperfect-> 180 per resource per year?
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:38] **imperfect-> That's insane to monitor a 500$ switch when you have 600 of em
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:41] **imperfect-> Ya know?
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:52] **therealnemo> so talk to them
[27-Oct-2008 20:14:54] **therealnemo>
[27-Oct-2008 20:15:14] **therealnemo> thats what happened where i work, i presume its favourable, because they run zenoss world wide
[27-Oct-2008 20:15:27] **imperfect-> What do you mean?
[27-Oct-2008 20:15:48] **therealnemo> i meant talk to zenoss , cant say it clearer
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:04] **imperfect-> < therealnemo> thats what happened where i work, i presume its favourable, because they run zenoss world wide
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:14] **imperfect-> What's unclear.
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:26] **imperfect-> what's 'what happened where i work'
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:29] **imperfect-> what precisely happened?
[27-Oct-2008 20:16:41] **therealnemo> never mind, do as you want, i gotta go. later
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[28-Oct-2008 07:34:47] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[28-Oct-2008 07:35:24] **raddy> Zenoss is not able to monitor my snmpd enabled linux server
[28-Oct-2008 07:35:35] **raddy> Can anybody help me?
[28-Oct-2008 07:47:02] **raddy> Anybody there???
[28-Oct-2008 08:45:51] **raddy> Anybody out there???
[28-Oct-2008 08:50:55] **Quadro> y
[28-Oct-2008 08:53:45] **raddy> Quadro : i have added a linux server running snmp as a devices
[28-Oct-2008 08:54:13] **raddy> Quadro : Zenoss found it's IP and everything went well.
[28-Oct-2008 08:54:34] **raddy> Quadro : but nothing is detected in the device
[28-Oct-2008 09:00:12] **raddy> Quadro : are you there???
[28-Oct-2008 09:18:24] **Bart> run snmpwalk and check if you are actually getting data.
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[28-Oct-2008 12:05:04] **fuzz> Any ideas why my zenoss (2.2.4) don't want to graph certain values for an F5 BigIP box? When I run zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d mydevname.com i get "Error reading value for "Server connects" on mydevname.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.12.8 is bad)". Many other OIDs are "bad", but not all. It seems the bad ones are the ones which are only available via SNMP v2c. However, I've checked the zProperty zSnmpVer and it is set to v2c.
[28-Oct-2008 12:05:48] **fuzz> With snmpwalk it works fine by the way:
[28-Oct-2008 12:05:50] **fuzz> zenoss@zenoss:~$ snmpwalk -v2c -c public mydev.com .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.12.8
[28-Oct-2008 12:05:53] **fuzz> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.1.2.12.8.0 = Counter64: 736182981
[28-Oct-2008 12:06:50] **fuzz> any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
[28-Oct-2008 13:28:32] **jabbertwo> quick question: on a windows devices (specifically a radius server), how do you unmonitor a specific service? when you go to the OS tab and even click on caption for windows services, it isn't listed. (kdc, NtFrs, IsmServ specifically)
[28-Oct-2008 15:20:43] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[28-Oct-2008 15:21:18] **raddy> I have just monitoring two devices.
[28-Oct-2008 15:22:02] **raddy> Now the memory consuption is 600MB
[28-Oct-2008 15:22:39] **raddy> I have stopped Zen-Modeler, ZenWin, ZenSysLog, Zen-EventLog etc
[28-Oct-2008 15:24:18] **nemo_> and i thought i had issues
[28-Oct-2008 15:27:32] **raddy> Is the memory concuption normal?
[28-Oct-2008 15:30:49] **nemo_> how are you measuring memory consumption
[28-Oct-2008 15:31:06] **nemo_> i am a little bit dubious about what you report
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:03] **raddy> namo_ : measuring the Real memory concuption of /opt/zenoss/bin/python process
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:22] **nemo_> i repeat my question
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:33] **nemo_> how do you measure the consumption of the process
[28-Oct-2008 15:32:59] **raddy> nemo_ : via Zenoss
[28-Oct-2008 15:46:17] **raddy> nemo_ : are you there???
[28-Oct-2008 15:51:41] **nemo_> raddy, didnt we talk about this before
[28-Oct-2008 15:51:48] **nemo_> i help where i can, but i am not your resource
[28-Oct-2008 15:51:53] **nemo_> understood ?
[28-Oct-2008 15:52:16] **raddy> nemo_ : ohh, sorry, i understood. you can carry on
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[28-Oct-2008 19:01:44] **flstf> ?ping? trying to setup a second collector and not displaying graphs, any thoughts
[28-Oct-2008 19:02:27] **therealnemo> version , ent ?
[28-Oct-2008 19:03:02] **flstf> 2.2.4
[28-Oct-2008 19:03:36] **flstf> this is core
[28-Oct-2008 19:03:47] **therealnemo> not sure how its done in core
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:00] **therealnemo> but make sure the render server is set up to be your main host
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:06] **therealnemo> in collector settings
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:25] **therealnemo> and also make sure hubhost is set to the main server in your collectors configs
[28-Oct-2008 19:04:39] **flstf> done.
[28-Oct-2008 19:05:01] **therealnemo> what are you seeing , no graph, no values in graph etc
[28-Oct-2008 19:05:40] **flstf> no graphs, rrd's are being built/updated. Looks like I'm getting some kind of 404 error in events
[28-Oct-2008 19:06:20] **therealnemo> porob for the render server
[28-Oct-2008 19:06:30] **therealnemo> if i remember right (no access to my setup from here )
[28-Oct-2008 19:06:52] **therealnemo> the render server was port 8091 on my main zenoss machine ( the interface where ppl login )
[28-Oct-2008 19:07:28] **flstf> I can see the connection being made (netstat)
[28-Oct-2008 19:07:43] **flstf> maybe I should run a capture
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:04] **therealnemo> and your configs on your collector
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:06] **therealnemo> where are they
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:23] **therealnemo> there are two sets, i presume only 1 is used ( on enterprise 2.3.2 anyway )
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:27] **flstf> ZENHOME/etc
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:37] **therealnemo> that might be the issue
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:42] **therealnemo> my collector is called perf01
[28-Oct-2008 19:08:55] **therealnemo> i login to it and go ZENHOME/perf01/etc/
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:02] **therealnemo> see if that exists on yours
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:17] **flstf> nope
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:28] **therealnemo> locate for it ( just in case i got the paths wrong )
[28-Oct-2008 19:09:59] **therealnemo> is it just the graphs that are an issue
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:07] **therealnemo> are you getting events into your system ?
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:09] **flstf> yep
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:17] **flstf> getting events and the like
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:20] **therealnemo> so i reckon it has to be the render server
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:23] **flstf> just no graphs
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:26] **therealnemo> thats what it was with mine
[28-Oct-2008 19:10:31] **flstf> k
[28-Oct-2008 19:11:07] **therealnemo> you should see the url its trying to pull in the logs ( increase verbosity of them , called severity in zenoss )
[28-Oct-2008 19:11:17] **therealnemo> then you can try it by hand
[28-Oct-2008 19:12:19] **flstf> thanks, I'll try that
[28-Oct-2008 19:15:53] **flstf> ERROR zen.RRDView
[28-Oct-2008 19:16:15] **flstf> that from the render server
[28-Oct-2008 19:17:06] **therealnemo> hmm not seen that before
[28-Oct-2008 19:17:13] **therealnemo> pop it into google
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[28-Oct-2008 20:22:33] **therealnemo> http://down.codeweavers.com/
[28-Oct-2008 20:22:38] **therealnemo> interesting !
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[28-Oct-2008 22:53:59] **mosburn> is there a clean way to remove zenoss-stack?
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[29-Oct-2008 11:28:05] **ed_mt> hi guys
[29-Oct-2008 12:07:36] **ed_mt> anyone had any issues reading the WMI Perf counters on a windows 2008 managed server?
[29-Oct-2008 12:07:43] **ed_mt> seems to be a problem for me
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[29-Oct-2008 15:20:24] **uwe> hello, when i try to add ipinterfaces to a server , it takes the name and the mac, but not the IP Addresses, is it that im doing something incorrectly or is it a bug ?
[29-Oct-2008 16:16:49] **uwe> and also ... i changed zenwmi settings, and mapped the device, still it shows wmi in orange ... nothing in the events is recent ... and i aknowledged old events
[29-Oct-2008 16:28:07] **uwe> also i did zencommand run -d server_name -v10
[29-Oct-2008 16:31:25] **uwe> i dont want to wait like 6 hours to test my changes .... :S
[29-Oct-2008 16:31:34] **npmccallum> uwe: I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish... all your interfaces should be detected by modeling
[29-Oct-2008 16:33:08] **uwe> the interfaces issue is one thing ... (which btw is not being detected by modelling!) wmi is another thing ...
[29-Oct-2008 16:33:40] **uwe> oh, finally the zenwin is green ...
[29-Oct-2008 16:33:57] **uwe> i had to move it to history then remodel ... it worked, or maybe on its own
[29-Oct-2008 16:34:34] **uwe> for wmi, i wanted to see what kind of info zenoss will provide if i enable wmi
[29-Oct-2008 16:35:18] **uwe> nothing additional actually :S
[29-Oct-2008 16:49:51] **npmccallum> uwe: is this core?
[29-Oct-2008 16:50:09] **uwe> npmccallum, um .. yes
[29-Oct-2008 16:50:41] **uwe> oh, this is only useful when using enterprise ?
[29-Oct-2008 16:52:02] **npmccallum> uwe: honestly, I don't know what works in core vs enterprise
[29-Oct-2008 16:52:17] **npmccallum> since I deal pretty much exclusively with enterprise
[29-Oct-2008 16:53:39] **uwe> ah ... i see
[29-Oct-2008 17:32:16] **uwe> well, thank you all
[29-Oct-2008 17:32:24] **uwe> thanks npmccallum
[29-Oct-2008 17:32:34] **npmccallum> uwe: np
[29-Oct-2008 20:37:58] **khazad-dum> hello all
[29-Oct-2008 20:38:13] **khazad-dum> I've a couple of questions
[29-Oct-2008 20:38:30] **khazad-dum> about zenoss base version
[29-Oct-2008 20:38:45] **khazad-dum> is there someone?
[29-Oct-2008 20:39:04] **rhett__> im around but i am unsure how helpful i can be
[29-Oct-2008 20:39:19] **khazad-dum> oh, thx
[29-Oct-2008 20:39:34] **khazad-dum> I'm looking for the price for the base version
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:04] **khazad-dum> but there is a form
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:11] **rhett__> core?
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:14] **khazad-dum> yes
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:18] **rhett__> its free
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:23] **khazad-dum> oh
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:30] **khazad-dum> and what I can do with the core?
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:34] **rhett__> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zenoss/
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:41] **adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss Core - Enterprise IT Monitoring (at sourceforge.net)
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:42] **khazad-dum> yes, I know
[29-Oct-2008 20:40:56] **rhett__> http://www.zenoss.com/product/core info on core
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:03] **adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Core Product Overview - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:12] **khazad-dum> ah ok
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:25] **rhett__> i am unsure the exact difference between core pro and enterprise
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:28] **rhett__> i only use core
[29-Oct-2008 20:41:56] **khazad-dum> and how many devices do you have under montitor ?
[29-Oct-2008 20:44:48] **rhett__> about 20
[29-Oct-2008 20:45:04] **khazad-dum> and what kind of OS do you have=
[29-Oct-2008 20:45:05] **khazad-dum> ?
[29-Oct-2008 20:46:55] **rhett__> centos 5.2
[29-Oct-2008 20:47:05] **khazad-dum> nothing about windows ?
[29-Oct-2008 20:47:06] **rhett__> monitoring centos 5.2 and darwin boxes
[29-Oct-2008 20:47:16] **rhett__> i have two windows vm's but i dont care about them really
[29-Oct-2008 20:48:33] **khazad-dum> how MS Windows can be monitored?
[29-Oct-2008 20:48:39] **khazad-dum> via snmp I mean
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:14] **rhett__> i am only using snmp
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:18] **rhett__> but wmi is in there too
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:35] **khazad-dum> sorry
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:47] **rhett__> i am only using snmp but wmi is in there too
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:55] **khazad-dum> ok!
[29-Oct-2008 20:49:56] **khazad-dum> ty
[29-Oct-2008 20:52:24] **rhett__> np
[29-Oct-2008 20:53:28] **khazad-dum> I'll try right now
[29-Oct-2008 20:53:29] **khazad-dum> bye bye
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[30-Oct-2008 08:59:00] **nemo2> morning
[30-Oct-2008 10:15:10] **kippi> hey
[30-Oct-2008 10:15:52] **kippi> on zenoss can I run a tool on a remote machine to nmap other servers etc and then push the results back to my main zenoss install ?
[30-Oct-2008 10:49:21] **ke4qqq-afk> kippi - I don't see why not - just setup a nagios plugin to do that
[30-Oct-2008 11:47:34] ke4qqq-afk is now known as ke4qqq
[30-Oct-2008 14:26:43] **MAHerron> anybody awake?
[30-Oct-2008 15:27:39] **MAlexHerron> anyone seen problems with events that have cleared not being correctly removed from event console on accounts that are perpetually signed in?
[30-Oct-2008 15:40:42] **huggie> Hi. I'm trying to get a zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames of "lo" to apply. I remodeled my device and it came back with some logs which implied it had worked but in the Components bit it's still got the lo interface. Anyone any ideas?
[30-Oct-2008 15:41:07] **huggie> Oh yeah, looking at zProperties on that device I remodeled it does indeed have that set to lo.
[30-Oct-2008 16:06:32] **nemo2> using zenoss enterprise 2.2.3
[30-Oct-2008 16:06:41] **nemo2> 2 collectors
[30-Oct-2008 16:07:01] **nemo2> but set the collector seems to only add another collector
[30-Oct-2008 16:07:10] **nemo2> effectivly now machines are monitored twice
[30-Oct-2008 16:07:39] **nemo2> cannot anyone confirm this happens for them / or not ? pls
[30-Oct-2008 16:10:39] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Oct-2008 16:12:31] **nemo2> reindexing the db seems to fix that btw
[30-Oct-2008 16:48:55] **CharlieSu> Could anyone tell me how to manually invoke JMX collection for a device? I'm trying to test a Template I just made but don't know how to manually invoke it to see if it is collecting data
[30-Oct-2008 18:26:32] **anthonyclark> hi all, I'm writing a python script that calls the zenoss functions, and was wondering how I use commit() in the same way as zendmd?
[30-Oct-2008 18:31:55] **anthonyclark> I have m = ZenScriptBase(connect=True), but I can't call m.commit() - anyone got a quick pointer on how I should be doing this?
[30-Oct-2008 18:41:32] **anthonyclark> oh wait, got it, needed to import transaction
[30-Oct-2008 18:42:00] **anthonyclark> however, next question: I'm editing an event summary, then commit()ing the change, why doesn't that change get saved?
[30-Oct-2008 18:57:05] **jeld> I have the most basic event mapping rule, consisting only of eventClassKey name and for some reason it doesn't map
[30-Oct-2008 18:58:12] **jeld> the event is from apache error log forwarded to syslog
[30-Oct-2008 18:58:30] **jeld> I created a mapping that just has httpd as event class key and name
[30-Oct-2008 19:06:59] **anthonyclark> anyone have a suggestion as to why commit() won't work? it doesn't make changes either within zendmd or my custom script
[30-Oct-2008 19:31:55] **MAlexHerron> anyone seen problems with events that have cleared not being correctly removed from event console on accounts that are perpetually signed in?
[30-Oct-2008 20:36:09] **MAlexHerron> anyone know if there is a logfile for zenmib
[30-Oct-2008 23:49:41] **cereal|work> hey i'm new to zenoss....but i added a node which uses snmp and we use non-standard ports or various reasons and i forgot to change the port. Now I cant figure out how to force this node to be rediscovered with the new port, does anyone know where I would do this at?
[30-Oct-2008 23:54:08] **rhett> i believe if you go into z properties and change the port and remodel/push the changes that would work
[30-Oct-2008 23:54:17] **cereal|work> hasnt yet
[30-Oct-2008 23:54:53] **rhett> how many devices do you need to change
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:08] **cereal|work> 1
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:11] **rhett> oh
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:22] **cereal|work> i'm more confused as to why this isnt working tho
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:38] **cereal|work> was the second node i added lol
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:41] **rhett> well you should be able to go into the zproperties of the device by cliking the menu button and change it there
[30-Oct-2008 23:55:56] **rhett> after that is down try and snmpwalk the device from within zenoss
[30-Oct-2008 23:56:50] **cereal|work> k i'll try it out
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[31-Oct-2008 00:53:38] **jaredor> Hello, I'm trying to make an event command when an snmp_linkdown comes across. I can get the command to work but im trying to pull the ifDesc from the details of the event.
[31-Oct-2008 00:53:52] **jaredor> I tried ${evt/ifDesc} but it doesnt return the value of ifdesc
[31-Oct-2008 00:54:27] **jaredor> anyone know what expression that would be?
[31-Oct-2008 01:19:13] **jaredor> Nobody knows the TAILS expression for ifDesc out of an event?
[31-Oct-2008 02:37:06] ke4qqq is now known as ke4qqq-afk
[31-Oct-2008 03:14:06] **jaredor> Hi cluther
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[31-Oct-2008 12:40:26] **raddy> Hello Everybody
[31-Oct-2008 12:40:54] **raddy> Zenoss Memory Usage seems constantly growing
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:11] **raddy> It was started around 450MB
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:18] **raddy> Now it is 600MB
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:31] **raddy> Only monitoring 2 devices
[31-Oct-2008 12:41:42] **raddy> running under 64Bit OS
[31-Oct-2008 12:44:11] **raddy> Anybody there?
[31-Oct-2008 13:20:52] **reighnman> Anyone know how to get the ifDesc tails expressions from an snmp_linkdown event?
[31-Oct-2008 13:45:04] **raddy> reighnman : do you know what performance templates can be bound to a device?
[31-Oct-2008 14:05:36] **reighnman> raddy : Is this about my issue or are you asking me about yours?
[31-Oct-2008 18:31:32] **MAlexHerron> happy halloween Zennites!
[31-Oct-2008 18:37:35] **nemo2> dankuwel
