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[01-Jan-2008 03:57:18] <GNUWorldOrder> For nagios users in here?
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[02-Jan-2008 15:32:47] <klinstifen> anyone out there using CentOS?
[02-Jan-2008 15:33:35] <klinstifen> having trouble with my ubuntu server running zenoss and wondering if CentOS users find it to be stable or not? any perf issues or quicky zenoss issues?
[02-Jan-2008 17:21:22] <lorth> hey guys i need help
[02-Jan-2008 17:35:48] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I have heartbeat failures for all of the zen services showing up in my event console.....how can I get that to stop?
[02-Jan-2008 17:38:54] <cluther> ke4qqq: Go to Event Manager, click on the menu and choose clear all heartbeats.
[02-Jan-2008 17:42:10] <ke4qqq> cluther: my question is more around how to stop it from reoccurring
[02-Jan-2008 17:42:53] <cluther> ke4qqq: That is how you keep it from recurring. Normally the only reason you'd get heartbeat failures for every zen daemon would be if the zenoss server changed hostnames.
[02-Jan-2008 17:43:13] <cluther> ke4qqq: Zenoss still expecting the heartbeats to come in form the old hostname, but they never will again.. so they're all in fault.
[02-Jan-2008 17:43:26] <cluther> ke4qqq: When you clear the heartbeats it tells Zenoss to forget about them and only pay attention to new heartbeats.
[02-Jan-2008 17:56:16] <ke4qqq> ahhh thanks!!!
[02-Jan-2008 18:02:16] <ke4qqq> yet another question - I have a machine that picks up http every time it remodels. I have this firewalled off (https is up and working). Every time I delete (even if ipservices are locked) it returns on next remodel and then goes critical because it detects http as being down. How do I resolve that?
[02-Jan-2008 18:07:01] <cluther> ke4qqq: IpServices are modeled via SNMP and monitored via an actual TCP socket connection.. this is why they can be modeled but not monitored. Instead of deleting the service from the device, click into it and set the Monitored state to False.
[02-Jan-2008 18:58:13] <MuseHome> Hey there, can anyone tell me if there is some place to find a list of the "here." options?
[02-Jan-2008 18:58:32] <MuseHome> like here.speed and here.totalBytes.
[02-Jan-2008 19:01:13] <cluther> MuseHome: The admin guide contains the list for devices and for events. Not for a file system like you're looking for though.
[02-Jan-2008 19:01:27] <cluther> MuseHome: You can take a look at $ZENHOME/Products/ZenModel/FileSystem.py for a definition of the FileSystem class.
[02-Jan-2008 19:01:43] <cluther> MuseHome: You can use any properties of this class or any methods that only take (self) as a parameter.
[02-Jan-2008 19:02:02] <cluther> MuseHome: You'll see that totalBytes is a property of FileSystem.
[02-Jan-2008 19:04:30] <MuseHome> Thank you ...
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[02-Jan-2008 20:04:34] <MuseHome> Will this work as to as a 500MB threshold? Â Â here.totalBytes - (500000000/ here.blockSize)
[02-Jan-2008 21:39:51] <Brixius> I have a bunch of snmp events comming in under a general oid where the detail is in a varbind under the event, to get the detail's to show under the description I had to put "evt.summary=evt.telicaReptCondDescr" in transform. is there a way I can filter based on what's in the varbinds. so that the same oid could be either critical or warning based on the content.
[02-Jan-2008 21:40:18] <Brixius> hope that makes sense
[02-Jan-2008 21:43:44] <monrad> i would like to know that too
[02-Jan-2008 21:43:55] <monrad> i have quite a lot of those kinds of traps
[02-Jan-2008 21:44:10] <monrad> like bgp traps, some bgp peers are critical others are warnings
[02-Jan-2008 21:56:11] <foo> Anyone in here come from nagios?
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[03-Jan-2008 09:16:19] <pavloskleanthous> hello there
[03-Jan-2008 09:16:28] <pavloskleanthous> happy new year
[03-Jan-2008 09:17:13] <pavloskleanthous> I'm using Zenoss Version 2.1.70
[03-Jan-2008 09:17:27] <pavloskleanthous> and i have a problem
[03-Jan-2008 09:17:41] <pavloskleanthous> can anyone help me ?
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[03-Jan-2008 11:17:07] <pavloskleanthous> ?
[03-Jan-2008 15:53:17] <klinstifen> what's the default mysql zenoss user password?
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[03-Jan-2008 18:17:41] <radkingz> QUESTION: I just installed the latest version of zenoss built from source and i cant seem to get zenperfsnmp,zencommand and zenprocess to run
[03-Jan-2008 18:21:08] <radkingz> the error on zencommand is: zen.zencommand: iteration over non-sequence
[03-Jan-2008 18:38:35] <cluther> radkingz: This would indicate a problem with zenhub. Was this an upgrade or a fresh install?
[03-Jan-2008 19:30:56] <radkingz> cluther: It was a fresh install
[03-Jan-2008 19:31:28] <radkingz> zenhub shows to be running
[03-Jan-2008 19:57:56] <radkingz> yup I stopped zenhub and the other daemons started
[03-Jan-2008 19:59:50] <fas3r> hello everybody
[03-Jan-2008 20:00:01] <fas3r> i have question about zenoss
[03-Jan-2008 20:00:22] <fas3r> i have see it integrate google map and over thing ..
[03-Jan-2008 20:01:00] <fas3r> it's possible to select element when i install it ?
[03-Jan-2008 20:01:12] <fas3r> it's on debian server
[03-Jan-2008 20:05:29] <fas3r> erf nobody here ... ?
[03-Jan-2008 20:40:55] <MoreDakka> Can Zenoss monitor if a port oni a switch gets unplugged (down)?
[03-Jan-2008 20:59:40] <charlieS> It doesn't correlate that to host being down, no.. it doesn't understand L2 topology. But it can receive the link down trap.
[03-Jan-2008 21:05:15] <charlieS> It'd be ideal if a link_down trap made zenoss send a single notification that the connected _host_ was down, and then supressed all other alerts relating to that host. Oh that'd be wonderful
[03-Jan-2008 21:12:33] <MoreDakka> hehe
[03-Jan-2008 21:12:40] <MoreDakka> so the only way to do it really is with Traps.
[03-Jan-2008 21:13:32] * johns55 nods
[03-Jan-2008 21:17:08] <MoreDakka> :-/
[03-Jan-2008 21:17:46] <MoreDakka> Also, I've noticed that zenperfsnmp is generating a heartbeat failure a lot, do lots of people have this problem?
[03-Jan-2008 21:21:31] <johns55> you can clear this
[03-Jan-2008 21:22:38] <johns55> go to Events manager under management
[03-Jan-2008 21:22:48] <johns55> from the pull down menu select clear heartbeats
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[03-Jan-2008 21:25:07] <MoreDakka> Yeah I know I can clear it but like in v1.1.1 (our production version) zenmodeler gets gummed up every couple of weeks and I have to reset the daemon and clear the heartbeats. Will the same thing happen with 2.1.1?
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:03] <johns55> wow that version os really old
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:09] <johns55> u def need to update
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:18] <johns55> were doin very well with 2.1.1 over ehre
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:30] <johns55> 2.1.0 had a few bugs but 2.1.1 is pretty smooth so far
[03-Jan-2008 21:27:16] <MoreDakka> hehe, yeah I know v1.1.1 is old but I have 2.1.1 in testing now to make sure it's as stable. 1.1.1 is extremely stable.
[03-Jan-2008 21:28:30] <johns55> what have you found so far?
[03-Jan-2008 21:28:35] <johns55> how mmany machines r u monitoring?
[03-Jan-2008 21:28:47] <johns55> have you tried to run both systems on parralell?
[03-Jan-2008 21:30:06] <MoreDakka> We have two different servers.
[03-Jan-2008 21:30:18] <MoreDakka> we are monitoring about 160 devices.
[03-Jan-2008 21:31:00] <MoreDakka> I was soooooo happy when chet was able to help me get the import from 1.1.1 -> 2.1.1 done....omg that would suck to have to re-enter all that.
[03-Jan-2008 21:31:43] <MoreDakka> The only thing I don't like about 2.1.1 is the txt is too big, takes up too much area. I would prefer a smaller text and more information.
[03-Jan-2008 21:31:49] <MoreDakka> And the geocache issue....
[03-Jan-2008 21:37:51] <foo> Anyone in here come from nagios?
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:14] <charlieS> foo: most people, I assume have used Nagios.
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:23] <MoreDakka> guilty
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:36] <MoreDakka> for like 10 minutes
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:41] <charlieS> hehe
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:46] <foo> charlieS: I'm looking for someone who converted from nagios to zenoss
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:51] <johns55> MoreDakka: a simple discovery would have done the trick no/
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:53] <johns55> ?
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:59] <cluther> I used to be a Nagios guy.
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:12] <charlieS> foo: I did, wrote a few articles about it (not a lot of detail though)
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:43] <MoreDakka> johns55: No. We have VPNs going all over and remote devices. It would probably take longer for me to filter/add what auto-discovery finds then work around an import.
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:48] <charlieS> cluther: were you a Nagios developer, or just a disgruntled user?
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:48] <foo> charlieS / cluther - hey, thanks. I'm currently on nagios 2.x, heard a lot about zenoss, seen it in action, spoke with reps, I have 2 zenoss hats... and I'm thinking about converting to it. Any advice? Anything really compelling that was the reason for your move?
[03-Jan-2008 21:40:21] <johns55> MoreDakka: sounds complicated, im glad it worked out for you
[03-Jan-2008 21:40:34] <charlieS> foo: I collapsed three apps into zenoss: nagios, cricket, cacti. Pretty compelling.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:13] <cluther> foo: I wrote custom extensions to Nagios for 3 years then found that Zenoss did them all+ better out of the box.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:30] <MoreDakka> Yeah, two things I learned while doing that. zenmigrate can do everything including making breakfast...it's amazing. And cluther is a Zenoss god.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:37] <cluther> foo: To be fair, I work for Zenoss and am likely one of the reps you talked to.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:55] <charlieS> "it works" and the frustrating bits I've run into don't even matter in the grand scheme, because I'm doing so much more than I was before..
[03-Jan-2008 21:44:42] <cluther> foo: Where did you meet the reps?
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[03-Jan-2008 22:13:38] <foo> oh shoot, I froze my screen... gah
[03-Jan-2008 22:14:30] <foo> cluther: oh, hey Still around? Gah, froze my screen session. At SCALE
[03-Jan-2008 22:14:40] <cluther> yup
[03-Jan-2008 22:14:55] <cluther> ah, okay. That wouldn't have been me.
[03-Jan-2008 22:16:34] <foo> ah
[03-Jan-2008 22:16:40] * foo wonders if they're going to be back this year
[03-Jan-2008 22:18:25] <charlieS> foo: its OSS, just install a test version and give it a whirl.. much easier to set up and start getting useful results than in nagios.
[03-Jan-2008 22:18:33] <MoreDakka> What does Zenoss require open for iptables rules? I'm going to be connecting our zenoss box to a client's network and want to make sure it is as secure as possible. Well, I want to lock it right down but still have access to it locally (which is easy enough) and have the snmp/icmp/etc traffic accessing their network.
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:04] <MoreDakka> You can get zenoss running with an OS install in like 45 minutes and it can be polling devices within about 5 minutes after that.
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:28] <cluther> Inbound connectivity would only need to be 8080/tcp for the web interface, 514/udp for syslogs, 162/udp for SNMP traps.
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:33] <foo> I have several custom nagios plugins and the stuff it's monitoring is remote... but I'll play around with it
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:58] <foo> Any general statistics for scaling? Say, 30 devices with a total of 200 services... how much RAM are we talking?
[03-Jan-2008 22:20:46] <cluther> foo: 1GB would be safe.. 512MB should work fine for that few devices.
[03-Jan-2008 22:20:48] <MoreDakka> cluther, what about icmp? (I'm still a newb when it comes to iptables, I can break things easily but then fix them in a couple hours haha)
[03-Jan-2008 22:21:03] * charlieS has 208 devices ATM, 4GB dual quad-core works (but I need more RAM)
[03-Jan-2008 22:21:33] * charlieS should note that he's running 64-bit, and python gobbles memory like its free
[03-Jan-2008 22:21:41] <cluther> MoreDakka: ICMP and everything else should work fine as long as you use the conn_tracking and allow established connections back in.
[03-Jan-2008 22:22:07] <MoreDakka> thanks again cluther.
[03-Jan-2008 22:22:58] <foo> cluther: I see, ok. I was total nagios scales better than zenoss, but, zenoss does do more. It's the graphing I'm after
[03-Jan-2008 22:23:27] <charlieS> nagios scales?!
[03-Jan-2008 22:23:38] <cluther> foo: Nagios can likely handle more devices on a single server than Zenoss. Zenoss works better for scaling once you need to distribute the monitoring over more than one server.
[03-Jan-2008 22:28:32] <radkingz> hey cluther my issue was I had to move the export statements up above the early return in the .bashrc file
[03-Jan-2008 22:29:02] <cluther> That's a weird one.
[03-Jan-2008 22:29:24] <radkingz> you were talking with a guy about it on the forums
[03-Jan-2008 22:30:57] <radkingz> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4434
[03-Jan-2008 22:30:57] <cluther> yup.. learn something new every day.
[03-Jan-2008 22:31:08] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenperfsnmp / zencommand / zenprocess won't start! (at community.zenoss.com)
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[03-Jan-2008 22:31:34] <cluther> Two people in such a short time with such an odd problem.
[03-Jan-2008 22:32:07] <charlieS> ugh, zenperfsnmp hearbeat failure keeps coming back. the process is running, and working. So odd..
[03-Jan-2008 22:33:02] <radkingz> yup..the instructions say to add it just not where. I didnt think it would make a difference until i read that post
[03-Jan-2008 22:33:53] <foo> cluther: thank you
[03-Jan-2008 22:57:54] <MoreDakka> While there are lots of people here might as well get this question out. On my graphs I have noticed that all of them are quite choppy. Choppy as in it looks like zenoss gets a reply from the device for 10 minutes then doesn't for 5 then again 10 or 15 minutes then might not recieve one for 15 minuutes...etc...etc.
[03-Jan-2008 22:58:48] <MoreDakka> All of the devices that have snmp all have this problem and all of them respond no problem to snmp requests manually. I have two zenoss servers running, could that cause a conflict of some kind?
[03-Jan-2008 23:06:06] <charlieS> I've seen this only on some servers.. not many though.
[03-Jan-2008 23:07:42] <charlieS> in /Devices/Server zProperties, I set zCommandCycleTime = 60, I think that'll help.
[03-Jan-2008 23:08:00] <charlieS> (I'm assuming it runs collections every 60 secs now)
[03-Jan-2008 23:14:44] <grogan> got a quick q if anyone's here who'd care to answer
[03-Jan-2008 23:16:08] <grogan> where do I find the snmp plugins for zenoss?
[03-Jan-2008 23:16:36] <grogan> running zenmodeler on command line to pick off the network settings from a test box.
[03-Jan-2008 23:17:01] <grogan> starts the collector loop for the ip, but then returns no cmd plugins, no snmp plugins, no portscan plugins. etc.
[03-Jan-2008 23:17:28] <grogan> is part of my install fubared?
[03-Jan-2008 23:18:32] <grogan> from the zenoss web interface, I can get a snmpwalk going.
[03-Jan-2008 23:19:35] <charlieS> maybe there's some environment setting that are missing when you're running from the command line?
[03-Jan-2008 23:19:47] * charlieS doesn't know
[03-Jan-2008 23:20:08] <MoreDakka> Thanks charlieS, I'll look into that.
[03-Jan-2008 23:20:14] <charlieS> does it just assume 'public' or rely on your config? Not sure.
[03-Jan-2008 23:20:55] <cluther> grogan: Zenmodeler doesn't take an IP address as a parameter..
[03-Jan-2008 23:21:19] <grogan> hmm strange, I saw it listed
[03-Jan-2008 23:21:32] <grogan> on some faq as being one of those commands to check it against one box.
[03-Jan-2008 23:21:59] <cluther> Have you already added the device to Zenoss?
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:03] <grogan> yup
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:14] <cluther> Try: zenmodeler run --device=deviceNameFromZenoss
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:15] <grogan> it's doing the same thing it does when I do autodiscovery.
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:26] <grogan> hmmm ok. lemme check that
[03-Jan-2008 23:23:09] <grogan> I was using the syntax: zenmodeler -d <ip address> --collect cmd.linux.netstat_rn
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:04] <grogan> hmmmm
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:09] <grogan> nice. that actually worked.
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:10] <grogan> thanks man
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:47] <cluther> sure thing.. the -d is shorthand for --device=. It just needs to be the device's name from zenoss instead of the IP.
[03-Jan-2008 23:25:13] <grogan> ahh ok.
[03-Jan-2008 23:30:02] <charlieS> cluther: is that true? "/Devices/Server zProperties, I set zCommandCycleTime = 60" - means that SNMP collections will run every minute?
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[03-Jan-2008 23:32:34] <charlieS> cluther_: having IRC issues?
[03-Jan-2008 23:32:52] <fas3r> i have question about zenoss
[03-Jan-2008 23:33:08] <cluther_> charlieS: Always.. it's these Cisco VPNs that isolate you from all other networks.
[03-Jan-2008 23:33:48] <charlieS> cluther_: (reposting question then) cluter: is that true? "/Devices/Server zProperties, I set zCommandCycleTime = 60" - means that SNMP collections will run every minute?
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:07] <charlieS> fas3r: "just ask it"
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:28] <fas3r> if you prefer i don't need google map module and other ... it's just for know if it's possible to select what module i want install on zenoss during the installation ? ( on debian server )
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:30] <cluther_> charlieS: You change the SNMP cycle from within the Monitors -> Performance -> localhost, edit tab.
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:54] <charlieS> ah! So zCommandCycleTime is only for SSH/etc commands.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:02] <cluther_> charlieS: Bear in mind that you will have to wipe out all of the .rrd files under $ZENHOME/perf/Devices if you do this as they're created with a specific step and heartbeat value.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:33] <cluther_> I don't think zCommandCycleTime is used at all honestly. COMMAND type data sources each specify their own interval and zencommand schedules them intelligently.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:41] <cluther_> Maybe a relic of the past.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:44] <charlieS> lol, ok
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:57] <charlieS> ew, ok I'll leave the SNMP setting as-is. Thanks.
[03-Jan-2008 23:41:44] <grogan> hmm
[03-Jan-2008 23:41:51] <grogan> another error that I bumped into earlier today.
[03-Jan-2008 23:42:02] <grogan> was trying to load up some of the zenpacks
[03-Jan-2008 23:42:18] <grogan> running gentoo 2.6.16 x86_64
[03-Jan-2008 23:42:24] <grogan> kept running into keyerror:app errors.
[03-Jan-2008 23:43:00] <grogan> whenever I tried loading it up, both via command line and via gui interface.
[03-Jan-2008 23:44:26] <grogan> was trying to load up the 64 bit zenpacks of apachemonitor, windowswmidevicetemplate & mysqlmonitor.
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[04-Jan-2008 00:05:12] <johns55> anyone have experience with snmp with windows?
[04-Jan-2008 00:05:35] <johns55> i just did an snmpwalk on my localhost and get a buncha errors saying it can not find snmp modules
[04-Jan-2008 00:05:40] <johns55> does this mean snmp is not running?
[04-Jan-2008 00:11:20] <donkdonk> just installed zenoss on CentOS5 and following the install guide i am supposed to go to http://10.1.2.101:8080. nothing comes up when i do
[04-Jan-2008 00:12:51] <johns55> check if httpd is running
[04-Jan-2008 00:14:03] <donkdonk> johns55: no, httpd is not running. should it be?
[04-Jan-2008 00:14:36] <donkdonk> johns55: its not even installed. the install guide didnt say anything about httpd
[04-Jan-2008 00:15:36] <johns55> yes u need httpd and mysql
[04-Jan-2008 00:15:45] <johns55> if u dont have that prior to installation, it will not work
[04-Jan-2008 00:16:52] <johns55> how is your system suppose to host zenoss pages if httpd is not installed?
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:37] <donkdonk> johns55: thought it brought its own host. owell i will play with it tomorrow
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:39] <donkdonk> johns55: thanks
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:52] <johns55> do a lsof -i -n -P
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:56] <johns55> check or a netstat
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:02] <johns55> to see what ports are listening
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:33] <donkdonk> johns55: yes, 8080 definatly not listening
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:41] <johns55> hrm
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:50] <johns55> do a /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenoss status
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:53] <johns55> see if all services on running
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:54] <donkdonk> ill install apache tomorrow
[04-Jan-2008 00:19:36] <donkdonk> [root@jamesdev etc]# /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss status
[04-Jan-2008 00:19:36] <donkdonk> ls: /opt/zenoss/var/Data.fs: No such file or directory
[04-Jan-2008 00:19:36] <donkdonk> Unable to determine the right user to run zenoss
[04-Jan-2008 00:20:55] <johns55> su zenoss
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:02] <johns55> r u running this as root?
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:15] <donkdonk> yes
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:20] <johns55> looks like the install didnt go so well
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:34] <donkdonk> ok thnaks
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:39] <donkdonk> ill redo it
[04-Jan-2008 00:22:21] <monrad> is there a way to make SLA caculation based on groups and/or systems
[04-Jan-2008 01:17:01] <johns55> can anyone help me with windows and snmp? seems like its telling me it cant find modules when performing an snmpwalk on localhost?
[04-Jan-2008 03:31:05] <donkdonk> just installed zenoss. following the install guide i am supposed to go to http://localhost:8080/ It does not pull up anything
[04-Jan-2008 03:31:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[04-Jan-2008 03:35:07] <charlieS> if you installed it on the box you're running the browser on..
[04-Jan-2008 03:36:38] <donkdonk> well, actually i am trying on a diffrent server using http://192.168.1.100:8080/
[04-Jan-2008 03:37:01] <donkdonk> there were some errors at first run
[04-Jan-2008 03:37:29] <charlieS> you probably want to address those errors, I'd guess
[04-Jan-2008 03:37:30] <donkdonk> something about the wrong mysql password
[04-Jan-2008 03:38:00] <donkdonk> where do i configure the password at?
[04-Jan-2008 03:38:23] <charlieS> in the GUI... hehe.
[04-Jan-2008 03:38:52] <charlieS> I think you can set it as an env var for the zenoss user, too
[04-Jan-2008 03:47:07] <donkdonk> ok apparently you need a blank password for mysql
[04-Jan-2008 03:47:39] <donkdonk> wtf is up with that?
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[04-Jan-2008 07:28:27] <charlieS> Address (optional) <-- it says, in the alerting rule. But I get: WARNING zen.ZenActions: failed to page rooters on rule Prod_24x7_Errors: Unspecified address.
[04-Jan-2008 07:28:58] <charlieS> when i try to send myself a test page it says it faile because i don't have a pager address, but it WORKS. (and I certainly do have a pager address set)
[04-Jan-2008 07:35:15] <charlieS> tis odd, that. I think I'll send mail to the list
[04-Jan-2008 12:23:46] <Xander77> Is there a way I can delete/disable the admin account? Or is it just a case of setting a really impossible password if I don't want to use it
[04-Jan-2008 15:04:20] <tafryn> If an admin is dead set against using snmp on his network will Zenoss still be a useful tool for him/her?
[04-Jan-2008 15:10:43] <cluther> tafryn: It'll be a heck of a lot more painful to use, but it could still be a useful tool.
[04-Jan-2008 15:12:03] <tafryn> more painful in that it wont auto detect the network or more painful in some other way?
[04-Jan-2008 15:12:47] <cluther> tafryn: Primarily in the discovery, yes. Also in the ability to collect performance information. The ZenPlugins agent will have to be installed on all of the *nix systems to allow Zenoss to to performance monitoring via SSH instead of SNMP.
[04-Jan-2008 15:14:50] <cluther> tafryn: Zenoss has a lot of features, and without SNMP you will simply miss out of some of them. To put it in perspective: Even if you don't use all of the free functionality that SNMP buys you, it will still be as capable as the alternatives since it can natively run Nagios or Cacti plugins to collect data.
[04-Jan-2008 15:18:23] <tafryn> I read about the compatability with Nagios plugins, how does that work exactly?
[04-Jan-2008 15:18:46] <cluther> tafryn: Are you familiar with Nagios plugins at all?
[04-Jan-2008 15:19:59] <tafryn> Somewhat
[04-Jan-2008 15:31:44] <Xander77> As I understand it, Nagios plugins are just commands that return the status of the service, along with performance parameters. You can set up datasources in Zenoss which run commands (ie nagios plugin in this case) and then extract the data from the return string
[04-Jan-2008 15:33:18] <Xander77> eg. the nagios plugin for http monitoring (check_http) returns something like
[04-Jan-2008 15:33:19] <Xander77> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 84039 bytes in 0.185 seconds |time=0.184819s;;;0.000000 size=84039B;;;0
[04-Jan-2008 15:33:29] <Xander77> when you run ./check_http -H news.bbc.co.uk
[04-Jan-2008 15:44:18] <cluther> tafryn: Sorry.. got distracted. Xander77 is on the money though.
[04-Jan-2008 15:45:29] <cluther> If the command exits with a non-zero exit code Zenoss will generate an event of the severity you specify, and the "time" and "size" values can be slurped up into data points which you can create thresholds against and graphs to display.
[04-Jan-2008 15:54:47] <tafryn> So how is a datasource setup in Zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 15:56:56] <cluther> tafryn: I'd recommend getting the admin guide and taking a look at chapter 12. It goes over this stuff better than most people here would.
[04-Jan-2008 15:57:41] <cluther> tafryn: Then chapter 14 is even better once you understand 12.
[04-Jan-2008 15:58:47] <tafryn> fair enough, thanks
[04-Jan-2008 16:50:38] <BrixHome> question, running "zenmib run mibfile" I'm getting the following "INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI" as well as others, however I've allready imported SNMPv2-SMI. Can I safely ignore that error, or do I have to re-import the base mibs it's complaining about when importing this mib.
[04-Jan-2008 16:51:04] <BrixHome> thanks in advance
[04-Jan-2008 16:54:44] <cluther> BrixHome: Try just running "zenmib run" without the mibfile parameter.
[04-Jan-2008 16:55:13] <cluther> BrixHome: That will allow it to find dependencies in the same mibs/site directory.
[04-Jan-2008 17:02:47] <BrixHome> thanks
[04-Jan-2008 17:36:03] <grogan> hmmm is there a file that controls the network map information under zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 17:36:28] <grogan> that could be re-generated? the network map thing was working last night, but today it's blank.
[04-Jan-2008 17:52:24] <MuseHome> Is there away to set alerts child/parent relationship. So that a switch with 48 systems going  down does not send out alerts for every system?
[04-Jan-2008 18:11:53] <MoreDakka_> port 8080 is just for tcp right? udp isn't required.
[04-Jan-2008 18:16:04] <MoreDakka_> Or can anyone guess why my web interface isn't working anymore?
[04-Jan-2008 18:17:01] <MuseHome> not for the web interface. udp will be used but the system to get snmpdata.
[04-Jan-2008 18:17:44] <MoreDakka_> Alright, but for the web interface it will only need tcp8080 right?
[04-Jan-2008 18:20:22] <johns55> yes
[04-Jan-2008 18:24:11] <grogan> hmmm
[04-Jan-2008 18:24:30] <grogan> is there a command line option to regenerate the network map stuff?
[04-Jan-2008 18:24:50] <grogan> the network map was working yesterday, but now it's gone again.
[04-Jan-2008 18:25:11] <grogan> no options whatsoever (i.e. no ip address to enter.. it's just blank.
[04-Jan-2008 18:27:17] <MuseHome> Do you get the "Device Class Fliter" pull down?
[04-Jan-2008 18:28:59] <MuseHome> Any chance I could use the ‽add route� option to make a switch look like it’s a parent? Using /32’s.
[04-Jan-2008 18:33:12] <johns55> anyone good with snmp and windows?
[04-Jan-2008 18:33:46] <MuseHome> good? I don't know about good.. what's up
[04-Jan-2008 18:34:21] <MoreDakka_> Wow...zenhub is really broken.
[04-Jan-2008 18:34:47] <johns55> i can get zenoss to monitor linux boxes via snmp but im having a hard time with windows
[04-Jan-2008 18:34:56] <pablo26> hi all
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:11] <johns55> i just get timedout when performing an snmpwalk from the zenoss to windows
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:17] <johns55> netstat shows udp 161 is running
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:55] <johns55> snmpwalk from itself to itself via localhost is giving me a cannot find module error
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:57] <MuseHome> Do you have it locked to a host or is it open?
[04-Jan-2008 18:36:33] <johns55> ive got it locked to the zenoss IP and localhost only
[04-Jan-2008 18:36:50] <johns55> same with snmp trap destinations
[04-Jan-2008 18:37:08] <pablo26> can i set dependencies between devices in zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 18:38:36] <MuseHome> Do you get the same error when you walk from the zenoss (linux) box?
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:02] <johns55> from the zenoss (linux) box, i get a timeout error
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:20] <pablo26> johns55 what are u using to test from windows to windows?
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:21] <johns55> the snmpwalk.exe was a downloaded file im not sure if its an accurate way of testing
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:27] <johns55> snmpwalk.exe
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:50] <MuseHome> can you snmpwalk.exe something else? do you have something to walk?
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:02] <MuseHome> just to test your snmewalk.exe
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:11] <johns55> not at the moment, the windows box is on a different network
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:28] <johns55> i did an snmpwalk back to zenoss and get the same cannot find module error
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:33] <MuseHome> what about the zenoss box. trying walking it from the windows box.
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:49] <johns55> yes, cannot find module error
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:52] <MuseHome> that sounds like it's looking for MIBs maybe.
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:58] <johns55> yes it is
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:13] <johns55> could it be the snmpwalk.exe is not an accurate way of testing this?
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:20] <MuseHome> is that your error? "Cannot find module (XXX-MIB)"
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:25] <johns55> yes it is
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:41] <MuseHome> you can read this. http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/docs/FAQ.html#What_does__Cannot_find_module__XXX_MIB___mean_
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:49] <adytum-bot> Title: Net-SNMP (at net-snmp.sourceforge.net)
[04-Jan-2008 18:42:15] <pablo26> johns55 try this simple software to test if its working ok http://noeld.com/programs.asp?cat=dstools#snmptest
[04-Jan-2008 18:42:19] <johns55> its actually being generated for all modules
[04-Jan-2008 18:42:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Miscellaneous Tools (at noeld.com)
[04-Jan-2008 18:43:07] <johns55> i am gonna try that test prog
[04-Jan-2008 18:43:09] <johns55> 1 sec
[04-Jan-2008 18:43:33] <pablo26> there are lot download SNMP test for routers u have to enter a community name and an ip
[04-Jan-2008 18:44:38] <johns55> yes, this is a windows box, so hopefully it will work for that too
[04-Jan-2008 18:44:59] <MuseHome> I would open up the windows to let any host use snmp. Just to test it. the from zenoss command-line "snmpwalk -v2c -c cstring host_ip ."
[04-Jan-2008 18:46:01] <MuseHome> or if you have nmap. nmap the windows box to see if it can see UDP 161 open.
[04-Jan-2008 18:48:06] <MuseHome> Anyone know. Is there away to set alerts child/parent relationship. So that a switch with 48 systems going  down does not send out alerts for every system?
[04-Jan-2008 18:48:47] <pablo26> no
i really need that
[04-Jan-2008 18:49:30] <MuseHome> Any chance I could use the ‽add route� option to make a switch look like it’s a parent? Using /32’s.
[04-Jan-2008 18:49:40] <pablo26> the ping automatically recognizes the network topology
[04-Jan-2008 18:49:57] <pablo26> but if it doesnt, u cant set it manually
[04-Jan-2008 18:50:47] <MuseHome> Seems like the class setup zenoss has. you would be able to make a class tree topology of your network.
[04-Jan-2008 18:51:51] <johns55> ah, i ran the test program, it says the first part of the test was successful
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:00] <johns55> now i need to unplug me network cable to test the trap
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:06] <johns55> which i cant do since this is a production box
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:07] <pablo26> i need that and services windows that can be setted automatically from outside to be happy
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:57] <MuseHome> What do you mean? what are you trying to do with your windows boxes?
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:58] <pablo26> johns55 u were able to snmpwalk with the software i told u?
[04-Jan-2008 18:54:21] <MuseHome> pablo26: what do you want to do automatically?
[04-Jan-2008 18:55:13] <pablo26> i want to turn off alerts during mainentances (periodically data updates) without having to log in to zenoos to create them
[04-Jan-2008 18:56:08] <MuseHome> Are they on a set time? so you could repeat them? or are they ramdom?
[04-Jan-2008 18:56:08] <johns55> pablo: yes it works on localhost
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:39] <johns55> im starting to think it might be network
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:55] <pablo26> do u have some firewall in the middle?
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:56] <johns55> since i tried to test it on the windows box against the zenoss box
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:59] <johns55> and it is not working
[04-Jan-2008 19:01:55] <MuseHome> pablo26:Are they on a set time? so you could repeat them? or are they ramdom?
[04-Jan-2008 19:18:00] <pablo26> they can change, depends when the indexing finish, when the data feed came
[04-Jan-2008 19:23:08] <grogan> oh sheesh n/m. (didn't have the flash plugin installed on this new box I was working from)
[04-Jan-2008 19:23:49] <johns55> lol simple solution
[04-Jan-2008 19:23:54] <grogan> haha yeah no kidding
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:04] <grogan> I was boggling over this since it worked on my laptop last night.
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:24] <johns55> since you are working on that, im trying to have the map show all networks
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:35] <johns55> is there a way to do it? ive only been able to have it show 1 network at a time
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:42] <grogan> hmm
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:46] <grogan> maybe it's number of hops?
[04-Jan-2008 19:25:08] <MuseHome> they have to have links. So you can change the number of hops.
[04-Jan-2008 19:25:35] <johns55> hrm i dont understand.. im not a network guy
[04-Jan-2008 19:25:37] <MuseHome> and 4 hops max.
[04-Jan-2008 19:26:56] <MuseHome> You need to have H --->R ---> H or H --> R --> R --> H
[04-Jan-2008 19:27:25] <MuseHome> So there has to be a ARE (router) that has a a leg I neach network.
[04-Jan-2008 19:28:08] <MuseHome> ARE = R
[04-Jan-2008 19:28:43] <MuseHome> Does that help or make it worse? :-)
[04-Jan-2008 19:29:29] <BrixHome> pablo26: I'm guessing there's some type of command line you could do to put a device in maint and if so you could do it in a cron, or issue the command via ssh on another host. I've no clue what that command line would be, I'm really new at zenoss myself, but I'm guessing there is one. (I know not much help, but maybe a pointer at someplace to look)
[04-Jan-2008 19:29:57] <grogan> have you guys had any luck installing zenpacks?
[04-Jan-2008 19:30:39] <pablo26> yes, from the command line or web interface grogan?
[04-Jan-2008 19:30:48] <grogan> both
[04-Jan-2008 19:30:57] <grogan> running under 64 bit gentoo
[04-Jan-2008 19:31:10] <grogan> not sure if that's why it's falling apart.
[04-Jan-2008 19:31:34] <pablo26> maybe u dont have the environment variables of zenoss home
[04-Jan-2008 19:31:56] <grogan> hmmm
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:08] <BrixHome> grogan: are you running as user zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:10] <grogan> yeah.
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:16] <grogan> with all of the environmental variables set
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:34] <grogan> I got through that whole issue of the 3 processes that would start/stop
[04-Jan-2008 19:33:00] <grogan> the zenperfsnmp, zencommand and one other
[04-Jan-2008 19:33:16] <grogan> found the environmental variable settings somewhere, plugged them in and that problem fixed itself.
[04-Jan-2008 19:34:46] <BrixHome> grogan: I've had luck as long as I switch to the zenoss user using the command "su - zenoss" but I cheated on installing it and downloaded the vmware image to put on esx.
[04-Jan-2008 19:37:59] <grogan> heh
[04-Jan-2008 19:38:01] <grogan> ahh yeah
[04-Jan-2008 19:38:03] <grogan> I know. same here
[04-Jan-2008 19:38:22] <grogan> I su - zenoss, and then load the $zenhome, etc vars
[04-Jan-2008 19:39:32] <grogan> comes back with some keyerror:app
[04-Jan-2008 19:39:57] <grogan> after a slew of python stuff.
[04-Jan-2008 19:40:04] <MuseHome> pablo26: can you use the "Alerting period to repeat" in the alert Schedule to hold off your E-Mail when your system is updating?
[04-Jan-2008 19:41:13] <johns55> Muse: we just ahve 1 netblock of class Cs and split it up via subnetting
[04-Jan-2008 19:42:14] <MuseHome> john: But the thing that is doing the subneting need to be in zenoss. It has to be a router.
[04-Jan-2008 19:43:32] <MuseHome> john: that router will have routes for each subnet. and that will link all the nets together.
[04-Jan-2008 19:45:30] <MuseHome> This also could be a Firewall that is routing all your subnets.
[04-Jan-2008 19:47:41] <MuseHome> John: Does that help you?
[04-Jan-2008 19:47:42] <pablo26> MuseHome i can do that if the maintenance task were scheduled, but in my case the can change every time
[04-Jan-2008 19:55:49] <MuseHome> pablo26: that is ./bin/winexe not zenwin....
[04-Jan-2008 20:00:05] <klinstifen> i just migrated from one box to another and now my dashboard is empty and i can't add anything
[04-Jan-2008 20:00:09] <klinstifen> anyone got any ideas?
[04-Jan-2008 20:01:50] <klinstifen> when i try to add a portlet there are none to choose from
[04-Jan-2008 20:09:20] <MoreDakka_> What's the pastebin site that everyone uses?
[04-Jan-2008 20:18:33] <BrixHome> I use pastebin.com but I don't think it really maters which one you use
[04-Jan-2008 20:21:11] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone please tell me why my server is broken? http://pastebin.ca/841636
[04-Jan-2008 20:21:18] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 841636 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Jan-2008 20:21:53] <MoreDakka_> The mysqld service is running and iptables is empty.
[04-Jan-2008 20:24:53] <MoreDakka_> I can't access the server via the web site. I haven't made any changes to it and the errors go as far back as 12/30 :-/
[04-Jan-2008 20:55:08] <MoreDakka_> I can't even start zenhub. Try to restart it, says it's already stopped and nothing is showing up in the logs...
[04-Jan-2008 20:55:34] <klinstifen> what's the default zenoss user password when installing from a RPM
[04-Jan-2008 20:56:02] <klinstifen> MoreDakka: if you do a ps -ef | grep zenoss do you see a line for zenhub?
[04-Jan-2008 20:56:38] <MoreDakka_> Just my grep zenhub, nothing else.
[04-Jan-2008 20:57:07] <klinstifen> so when you do a zenhub start what happens
[04-Jan-2008 20:57:45] <MoreDakka_> What I described above
[04-Jan-2008 20:58:43] <klinstifen> does it just drop to the command line?
[04-Jan-2008 20:58:51] <klinstifen> are you stopping/starting from website?
[04-Jan-2008 20:58:52] <MoreDakka_> I can't get to the web interface at all.
[04-Jan-2008 20:59:14] <MoreDakka_> So all of this is being done from the command line.
[04-Jan-2008 20:59:41] <klinstifen> so when you do zenhub start does it just drop to the command prompt?
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:31] <MoreDakka_> zenhub restart
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:34] <MoreDakka_> already stopped
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:37] <MoreDakka_> starting...
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:40] <MoreDakka_> $
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:53] <MoreDakka_> zenhub status
[04-Jan-2008 21:01:01] <MoreDakka_> not running
[04-Jan-2008 21:01:03] <MoreDakka_> $
[04-Jan-2008 21:06:05] <klinstifen> what if you do zenhub run -v 10
[04-Jan-2008 21:07:38] <MoreDakka_> http://pastebin.ca/841688
[04-Jan-2008 21:07:44] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[04-Jan-2008 21:07:45] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 841688 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Jan-2008 21:08:38] <klinstifen> so looks like a problem with your cache
[04-Jan-2008 21:08:48] <klinstifen> cd to $ZENHOME/var
[04-Jan-2008 21:08:56] <klinstifen> and rm zenhub-1.zec
[04-Jan-2008 21:09:05] <klinstifen> then try restarting zenhub
[04-Jan-2008 21:10:05] <MoreDakka> That got it started. What would cause that?
[04-Jan-2008 21:12:35] <klinstifen> i dunno, but it's happened to me before
[04-Jan-2008 21:12:54] <klinstifen> there are a couple different problems posted in the forums that have the same solution...delete zenhub cache
[04-Jan-2008 21:12:58] <MoreDakka> Gah, that sucks....not really a good thing to happen.
[04-Jan-2008 21:13:38] <klinstifen> least its an easy fix
[04-Jan-2008 21:13:42] <klinstifen> ...now that you know about it
[04-Jan-2008 21:13:58] <klinstifen> i just migrated from ubuntu to centos and my dashboard is blank
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:05] <klinstifen> anyone got ideas on how to fix this?
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:23] <klinstifen> tried updating catalog, but that didn't work
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:50] <MoreDakka> have you tried zenmigrate? That fixed a ton of problems for me when I upgraded from 1.1.1 -> 2.0.3 -> 2.1.1
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:57] <MoreDakka> Plus it can make breakfast too.
[04-Jan-2008 21:15:02] <MoreDakka> (from what I've heard)
[04-Jan-2008 21:17:23] <klinstifen> as zenoss user i ran "zenmigrate" and it said it ran successfully
[04-Jan-2008 21:17:37] <klinstifen> but alas my dashboard is still blank : (
[04-Jan-2008 21:19:27] <klinstifen> and my portlets are missing too
[04-Jan-2008 21:24:01] <MoreDakka> That's all I know to help you sorry.
[04-Jan-2008 21:37:16] <grogan> hmmm
[04-Jan-2008 21:37:35] <grogan> is there a way to command-line add a tcp service for monitoring?
[04-Jan-2008 21:38:04] <grogan> one of the devices I created keeps hanging on the OS window of the device details listing
[04-Jan-2008 21:38:44] <grogan> and can't click the stupid downarrow to trigger the ip services addition window.
[04-Jan-2008 21:39:29] <grogan> just keeps waiting with the inane 'loading' window
[04-Jan-2008 21:39:47] <grogan> or is the only way to delete the device and re-add it.
[04-Jan-2008 21:45:12] <grogan> oh well. deleting and redetecting.
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[04-Jan-2008 23:08:09] <doseyg> Can I use ssh to auto-discover Linux systems ? Also, what would need to happen to have zenoss automatically place system in the appropriate class and log all of the installed rpms and hardware ?
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[06-Jan-2008 00:22:28] <jdavis_> Does zenoss support postgresql?
[06-Jan-2008 00:28:55] <jdavis_> would a patch to support postgresql be welcome?
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[07-Jan-2008 00:36:08] <jdavis_> what is the license for zenoss?
[07-Jan-2008 00:37:56] <jdavis_> It looks like it's GPL.
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[07-Jan-2008 12:01:50] <turbohr> hello
[07-Jan-2008 13:47:06] <klinstifen> anyone running centos5.1?
[07-Jan-2008 14:00:42] <Auron> q
[07-Jan-2008 14:01:48] <Jorn-21> Goodday all, hope this works.
[07-Jan-2008 14:06:54] <klinstifen> anyone running centos5.1
[07-Jan-2008 14:08:21] <Jorn-21> say Test ... anybody sees this?
[07-Jan-2008 14:10:04] <Jorn-21> who
[07-Jan-2008 14:10:52] <Jorn-21> quit
[07-Jan-2008 14:45:34] <klinstifen> anyone know how to change the default install path for the rpm?
[07-Jan-2008 14:45:39] <klinstifen> it defaults to /opt/zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 14:45:44] <klinstifen> and --prefix doesn't work
[07-Jan-2008 14:59:46] <cluther_> klinstifen: Unfortunately there's no good way to do this and we don't honor the prefix flag yet. There is a way though..
[07-Jan-2008 15:01:42] <cluther_> klinstifen: symlink /opt/zenoss to where you really want it installed, then after the install edit your the .bashrc in your zenoss user's home directory to update the ZENHOME environment variable to the real location and remove your symlink.
[07-Jan-2008 15:03:39] <klinstifen> cluther_:ok thanks
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:08] <klinstifen> i'm moving from debian to centos and upgrading from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:19] <klinstifen> my previous install location was /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:44] <cluther_> I'd definitely recommend sticking with /opt/zenoss unless your mount point aren't setup for it.
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:58] <klinstifen> and i think the new path is conflicting with some of my perf templates
[07-Jan-2008 15:05:07] <klinstifen> i'll stick with it
[07-Jan-2008 15:05:35] <klinstifen> the debian/ubuntu install guide suggested /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 15:15:41] <klinstifen> cluther_: would perf templates referencing /usr/local/zenoss cause zenperf, command, and process from running?
[07-Jan-2008 15:21:19] <cluther_> You're talking about COMMAND type data sources that reference that path? If so, then no.. zencommand would still run.
[07-Jan-2008 15:24:32] <klinstifen> cluther_: hmm...well, on a fresh install of centos5.1 and zenoss 2.1.2 everything works fine
[07-Jan-2008 15:24:39] <klinstifen> all daemons are up and running
[07-Jan-2008 15:24:59] <klinstifen> but when i zenrestore my 2.1.1 data several things fail
[07-Jan-2008 15:25:16] <klinstifen> the dashboard is blank, but more importantly those three daemons will not stay up
[07-Jan-2008 15:28:40] <klinstifen> i think i'll have to do a more manual mirate
[07-Jan-2008 15:28:42] <klinstifen> *migrate
[07-Jan-2008 15:33:27] <cluther_> klinstifen: Did you try just running zenmigrate after doing the upgrade then restarting everything?
[07-Jan-2008 15:34:49] <klinstifen> cluther_: i did. the first time all of zenoss was started when i zenmigrated
[07-Jan-2008 15:35:30] <klinstifen> does it matter if they are all running rather then just zopectl
[07-Jan-2008 15:50:28] <Xander77> Is there a way to have performance graphs or reports automatically refresh? (i have seen this http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/335 has there been an update?)
[07-Jan-2008 15:50:39] <adytum-bot> Title: #335 (auto reload of performance graphs) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Jan-2008 15:52:59] <cluther_> Xander77: No update on that one.. it would be on the ticket. For such a simple thing this one has been outstanding for a long time.
[07-Jan-2008 15:54:55] <Xander77> Ok thanks. Yeh its a bit odd it hasn't been implemented. No worries, ill figure something out
[07-Jan-2008 16:19:44] <klinstifen> cluther_: when i zenrestore the Products directory is not restored properly...could this cause those three processes to fail?
[07-Jan-2008 16:20:46] <cluther_> It could be related. zenrestore isn't supposed to restore the Products directory. That only contains code. zenbackup/zenrestore only backs up and restores data (events, performance and configuration)
[07-Jan-2008 16:21:18] <cluther_> Moving the data onto a new system then running zenmigrate should upgrade your data to be compatible with the code in Products.
[07-Jan-2008 16:26:04] <klinstifen> cluther_: ok. i'll restore that dir and give it a shot
[07-Jan-2008 16:36:00] <klinstifen> no dice, same problems
[07-Jan-2008 16:40:45] <klinstifen> cluther_: i am getting iteration over non-sequence errors in the log for those three processes?
[07-Jan-2008 16:40:53] <klinstifen> any ideas or clues?
[07-Jan-2008 16:44:01] <klinstifen> anyone else done a migration that resulted in these symptoms:
[07-Jan-2008 16:44:48] <klinstifen> dashboard blank, zenprocess/command/perfsnmp all repeatedly fail, available portlets is empty (could be related to dashboard blank)
[07-Jan-2008 16:47:36] <Xander77> Should you be able to create Custom Properties in any class? It lets me add them in any class, but they only display in the list if I create them in /Devices. Any sub-class doesn't work
[07-Jan-2008 16:48:00] <Xander77> *Any sub-class of /Devices doesn't work
[07-Jan-2008 16:51:06] <klinstifen> xander77: doesn't work as in you can't do it or it doesn't propagate to the devices in the sub-class?
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:04] <klinstifen> cluther_: actually the permissions for the folders/files I copied from 2.1.1/Products to 2.1.2/Products weren't correct
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:21] <klinstifen> I changed them and restarted zenoss and now those processes are up and running
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:31] <klinstifen> I don't want to speak too soon, but I think that was the issue
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:44] <klinstifen> now if only i can fix my blank dashboard issue...
[07-Jan-2008 16:59:05] <Xander77> klinstifen: If I try to create a Custom Property in a sub class of /Devices, it says its added it, but doesn't display in the list. If I attempt to add it again (with the same name), I get a Python error saying "invalid or duplicate"
[07-Jan-2008 16:59:32] <Xander77> Currently I'm working around this by adding them for /Devices as propogation is working
[07-Jan-2008 17:03:08] <klinstifen> xander:let me see if i can duplicate your problem
[07-Jan-2008 17:03:21] <klinstifen> anyone know how to reset the dashboard to factory config?
[07-Jan-2008 17:07:40] <Xander77> klinstifen: I know its not ideal but you could re-create your user account, that would give you the default
[07-Jan-2008 17:12:58] <klinstifen> ... that would actually be a perfect solution! my user account is pretty much the default anyway...
[07-Jan-2008 17:14:49] <klinstifen> i wonder what kind of chaos it will cause if i delete the admin account
[07-Jan-2008 17:18:34] <Xander77> hehe as far I can tell you can't
[07-Jan-2008 17:18:43] <Xander77> It won't let you delete it
[07-Jan-2008 17:18:52] <Xander77> so I've set some really complex password on it
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[07-Jan-2008 17:42:09] <klinstifen> bummers...that's the account that has the missing dashboard
[07-Jan-2008 17:42:28] <Xander77> dam
[07-Jan-2008 17:59:56] <twm1010> Hello
[07-Jan-2008 18:00:03] <klinstifen> hi
[07-Jan-2008 18:00:55] <twm1010> How goes it?
[07-Jan-2008 18:02:17] <klinstifen> meh
[07-Jan-2008 18:02:58] <MoreDakka> Anyone alive in here today?
[07-Jan-2008 18:03:29] <MoreDakka> Alright, well I'll ask anyways and hope someone answers ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:04:21] <MoreDakka> Can zenoss, with the SNMP-Informant monitor hardware "heartbeats"? The servers have Dell OpenManage Server software on it so I can have it send traps which is great but it would be even better if Zenoss could just do all the work ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:05:42] <twm1010> MoreDakka
[07-Jan-2008 18:05:45] <twm1010> I think you are in luck
[07-Jan-2008 18:14:50] <twm1010> The informant, i would think, simply installs some extra OID's that Zenoss can query with SNMPGET
[07-Jan-2008 18:15:23] <twm1010> The question is then, what information exactly do you want it to check on?
[07-Jan-2008 18:15:59] <klinstifen> xander77: i duplicated the issue you were having..doesn't look like additional properties can be added to sub-classes
[07-Jan-2008 18:15:59] <MoreDakka> Like I said I need a hardware heartbeat or an indication on when a piece of hardware fails (ie cpu, memory, powersupply, hdd...etc...etc)
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:23] <twm1010> Let openmanage do that for you, by sending an SNMP trap to Zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:43] <twm1010> Is your management NIC configured?
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:48] <MoreDakka> That seems like the best way to do it, I just thought zenoss could read from opemanage and go from there.
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:57] <twm1010> It may be able to as well
[07-Jan-2008 18:17:05] <twm1010> You would probably need a MIB for that
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:02] <MoreDakka> I think I'll just work with the traps. that would be the best thing to do. Now to find the mib ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:06] <twm1010> I would think OpenManage would generate a Windows event
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:14] <twm1010> which WMI from Zenoss will pick up
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:18] <twm1010> so thats one more place to get it from
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:51] <MoreDakka> The company that we monitor wan't the least amount of stuff installed. I think I'll leave WMI out of this for now.
[07-Jan-2008 18:19:22] <twm1010> Well that doesn't require any more than you've already configured though, WMI is already running.
[07-Jan-2008 18:19:46] <twm1010> I've been using the WMIv2 Zenpack and am getting oodles of good data from my windows boxes
[07-Jan-2008 18:19:59] <MoreDakka> WMI requires username and password though doesn't it?
[07-Jan-2008 18:20:07] <MoreDakka> <never worked with WMI>
[07-Jan-2008 18:20:49] <twm1010> Yes
[07-Jan-2008 18:21:08] <MoreDakka> That's something we have never configured. WMI needs to be installed right?
[07-Jan-2008 18:21:28] <twm1010> No, WMI is installed by default.
[07-Jan-2008 18:22:17] <twm1010> You're using Zenoss to monitor someone else's equipment then?
[07-Jan-2008 18:22:24] <MoreDakka> That is correct.
[07-Jan-2008 18:23:42] <twm1010> Gotcha, so the idea is to not be very intrusive correct?
[07-Jan-2008 18:24:45] <MoreDakka> That is correct. We have the SNMP-Informant installed on the servers now. I'm logged into their machines to see if WMI installed. Sorry for my lack of knowledge in this area but would that be under Add/Remove Windows Components?
[07-Jan-2008 18:25:40] <twm1010> WMI is installed and activated by default
[07-Jan-2008 18:25:44] <twm1010> its a core component of windows
[07-Jan-2008 18:26:18] <twm1010> Go into Services, scroll all the way to the bottom
[07-Jan-2008 18:26:22] <twm1010> you'll see it running
[07-Jan-2008 18:26:29] <twm1010> (Windows Management Instrumentation)
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:15] <MoreDakka> Well look at that... ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:26] <twm1010> Does the account you were given have Admin access?
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:32] <MoreDakka> Yep
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:44] <twm1010> Are they running active directory?
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:50] <MoreDakka> Does wmi requre and account that is admin?
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:51] <MoreDakka> Yes.
[07-Jan-2008 18:28:10] <twm1010> Now, is that account a "domain admin" ?
[07-Jan-2008 18:28:30] <twm1010> Ideally, it should not be.
[07-Jan-2008 18:28:53] <twm1010> I would hope they simply gave that account admin access on each individual server, or the necessary rights via group policy
[07-Jan-2008 18:30:07] <MoreDakka> My account is a domain admin.
[07-Jan-2008 18:31:01] <MoreDakka> but if we wanted to monitor via wmi we would have a seperate account created that has restricted access, correct?
[07-Jan-2008 18:31:14] <twm1010> Right, thats the correct way to do it
[07-Jan-2008 18:31:51] <twm1010> but for the sake of seeing how this works, you could use the account they gave you
[07-Jan-2008 18:32:19] <twm1010> the risk of it, is if your Zenoss machine is compromised, the attacker has the keys to their kingdom
[07-Jan-2008 18:32:38] <MoreDakka> Ah alright. I think, for now anyways, I'll recommend to use SNMP Traps for the server management and make a recommendation to get a WMI user going later.
[07-Jan-2008 18:33:32] <twm1010> Sure, even XP has WMI though, so get it going on your own workstation or something, and then set the username/password of your own box in the zproperties of your workstation
[07-Jan-2008 18:33:52] <MoreDakka> I don't think our box is compromised but I don't like to take that risk. Ah, good idea...I'll try that out
[07-Jan-2008 18:34:54] <twm1010> You'll get almost an obnoxious amount of information after that
[07-Jan-2008 18:35:10] <twm1010> For instance, I can tell you that the groupwise mail client has crashed on my terminal server 122 times today
[07-Jan-2008 18:35:22] <MoreDakka> haha
[07-Jan-2008 18:36:04] <twm1010> Once I get my netware performance template done, I'm going to start in to see what I can get from DellOpenManage,HPInsightManager, and IBMDirector
[07-Jan-2008 18:36:12] <twm1010> we use all three here, its mind boggling
[07-Jan-2008 18:36:29] <MoreDakka> Does zenoss store the wmi password encrypted?
[07-Jan-2008 18:37:38] <MoreDakka> How do you model a device using WMI only. Just turn off SNMP on that device?
[07-Jan-2008 18:39:36] <twm1010> I don't believe the modeling is done via WMI
[07-Jan-2008 18:39:40] <twm1010> that still comes from SNMP
[07-Jan-2008 18:42:19] <twm1010> i could be wrong though.
[07-Jan-2008 18:42:29] <MoreDakka> Oh, alright. Sooooo......WMI is polled how often?
[07-Jan-2008 18:43:28] <MoreDakka> (sorry, haven't done any WMI monitoring in Zenoss yet)
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:04] <twm1010> probably 3 to 5 minutes
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:13] <twm1010> i think its 5
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:22] <MoreDakka> Ah, I'll just wait for a bit and see if it generates some cool stuff for me.
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:51] <MoreDakka> If SNMP on all the machines are set to RO then Zenoss is non-intrusive right?
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:55] <twm1010> if you're just using the base zenoss configuration, really all you'll get is events
[07-Jan-2008 18:49:22] <twm1010> thats right, the only intrustion being the network utilization to answer the query, which is minimal
[07-Jan-2008 18:49:54] <MoreDakka> Well, Zenoss cannot make any changes to the machines with the SNMP being RO, correct?
[07-Jan-2008 18:53:13] <klinstifen> anyone know how to reset the dashboard to original configuration?
[07-Jan-2008 18:54:21] <klinstifen> the dashboard is blank for all users
[07-Jan-2008 19:46:07] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[07-Jan-2008 20:11:10] <twm1010> heh, just told zenmib to load about 500mibs at once...
[07-Jan-2008 20:11:11] <twm1010> its taking.... a while
[07-Jan-2008 20:54:31] <grogan> hmm
[07-Jan-2008 20:55:29] <grogan> defined a few customized commands under processes/administration/define commands.
[07-Jan-2008 20:55:49] <grogan> alongside the default dns forward,reverse, ping, snmpwalk traceroute.
[07-Jan-2008 20:56:04] <grogan> but those suckers aren't showing up anywhere else to run.
[07-Jan-2008 20:56:14] <grogan> is there a way to get them to show up elsewhere?
[07-Jan-2008 21:05:33] <tijmen> hi everybody
[07-Jan-2008 21:06:16] <tijmen> does anybody know how to create a monthly report with the traffic volume of a certain interface?
[07-Jan-2008 21:14:53] <MoreDakka> If a new service is added to a box, how long will it take Zenoss to notice the service is there and start monitoring it? Is there a way to force a refresh?
[07-Jan-2008 21:28:13] <klinstifen> MoreDakka: did you enable monitoring on that service after you added it?
[07-Jan-2008 21:29:44] <MoreDakka> well imap is being monitored on other boxes so it will be enabled for monitoring on the server.
[07-Jan-2008 21:32:07] <klinstifen> oh
[07-Jan-2008 21:32:43] <MoreDakka> Is that correct?
[07-Jan-2008 21:33:13] <johns55> should be instant if yr using snmp
[07-Jan-2008 21:33:38] <MoreDakka> I'm just wondering if it will grab it on the next polling cycle.
[07-Jan-2008 21:33:56] <johns55> it should be instant if ur using snmp
[07-Jan-2008 21:34:13] <johns55> did u add it manually?
[07-Jan-2008 21:34:19] <johns55> as an ipservice or process?
[07-Jan-2008 21:34:51] <MoreDakka> Nope, it imap is in by default in zenoss.
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:11] <grogan> hmmm figured it out.
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:12] <johns55> what?
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:30] <grogan> oh. the problem I was having
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:31] <grogan> heh
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:45] <johns55> i mean MoreDakka: wjat?
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:51] <grogan> oh. heh
[07-Jan-2008 21:36:33] <MoreDakka> You asked if I installed it manually, the imap service (in zenoss) is there by default for monitoring.
[07-Jan-2008 21:37:21] <johns55> yes it detected imap automatically after u modeled it?
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:00] <MoreDakka> Don't know yet, our client hasn't installed imap yet so I'm waiting but I want to make sure that I'm going to be able to find it once he installs it.
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:10] <johns55> yes of course
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:17] <johns55> once he installs imap
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:28] <johns55> u can remodel the device and it should auto pick up as an ipservice
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:43] <johns55> if not, just add the ipservice manually
[07-Jan-2008 21:40:40] <MoreDakka> Alright, that's cool ;-) Thanks johns55
[07-Jan-2008 21:43:55] <mGryphon> Hi.
[07-Jan-2008 21:48:46] <mGryphon> I'm looking for some help with Zenoss...?
[07-Jan-2008 21:49:14] <MoreDakka> just ask the question that is on your mind and usually the person that will know the answer will answer ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 21:50:32] <mGryphon> Ahh okay. :> I'm having trouble adding users or networks or anything but devices (because that has an "add" button right on the left. None of the other tables do.
[07-Jan-2008 21:52:47] <mGryphon> I've read the docs and they say that there's this drop down menu... which isn't on any of the tables... and a UI Changes spreadsheet which suggests that there is an "add" at the bottom of various tables, but that's not there either.
[07-Jan-2008 21:54:32] <klinstifen> To add devices...look at the lower-left of the main screen
[07-Jan-2008 21:54:37] <klinstifen> there's a link "Add Device"
[07-Jan-2008 21:54:55] <klinstifen> To add users...click on Settings at the lower-left of the main screen
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:00] <klinstifen> then click the Users tab
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:14] <klinstifen> and there's either a button or a down arrow (drop down)
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:18] <klinstifen> that will have the add user feature
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:35] <klinstifen> the drop down is specific for each thing you are looking at
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:46] <klinstifen> mGryphon: make sense?
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:07] <mGryphon> Add Device I got. I click settings then the users tab and there is no button or down arrow, though.
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:49] <klinstifen> after you click on Users
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:56] <mGryphon> correct
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:57] <klinstifen> it should say admin somwhere on the screen
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:58] <klinstifen> right?
[07-Jan-2008 21:58:20] <klinstifen> does it list you admin account?
[07-Jan-2008 21:58:30] <mGryphon> There is a "Users" table (shows "Admin") and a "Group" table (shows nothing but the table header)
[07-Jan-2008 21:58:59] <klinstifen> ok...what is directly left of the word "users"
[07-Jan-2008 21:59:21] <mGryphon> nothing
[07-Jan-2008 21:59:35] <mGryphon> just a blue expanse
[07-Jan-2008 22:00:17] <klinstifen> to the right...is there a field where you could perform a search?
[07-Jan-2008 22:00:23] <mGryphon> yes
[07-Jan-2008 22:01:12] <grogan> weird
[07-Jan-2008 22:01:24] <grogan> I'm getting these error 1040's now.
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:06] <klinstifen> mGryphon: what if you click the zenpacks tab
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:06] <grogan> too many connections when trying to run some scheduled sql selects to check on processing status.
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:21] <klinstifen> is there an arrow to the left of "Loaded Zen Packs"?
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:38] <mGryphon> no
[07-Jan-2008 22:03:09] <klinstifen> is the latest version of flash installed? what os and browser you using?
[07-Jan-2008 22:04:37] <mGryphon> IE 7 and Firefox on XP SP2 and Firefox on CentOS. I'll check the flash version. :>
[07-Jan-2008 22:08:46] <klinstifen> mGryphon: i gotta take off, but try searching the forums...i remember seeing something like that before but i can't find the exact post right now
[07-Jan-2008 22:08:47] <klinstifen> gl
[07-Jan-2008 22:08:59] <mGryphon> okay. thanks.
[07-Jan-2008 22:15:54] <grogan> oops.
[07-Jan-2008 22:16:03] <grogan> stupid sessions not exiting gracefully.
[07-Jan-2008 22:26:30] <mGryphon> Gotta go myself. I'll look at it again tomorrow.
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[08-Jan-2008 01:15:13] <nasx> has anyone successfully implemented a data collector plugin or zen pack for network appliance devices yet?
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[08-Jan-2008 12:09:28] <shibby_laptop> re you joining the bnw 2.0 call?
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[08-Jan-2008 12:18:29] <spacenerve> hi, i've been tasked with helping some1 evaluate zenoss ... which theyv installed alrdy .... i'm trying to setup a nagios plugin per instructions here -> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/ <- but there's no 'perfconf' tab on my device, why would that be? :O
[08-Jan-2008 12:18:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-Jan-2008 12:58:43] <MovoS> hi, Ive just installed 2.1.2 and am getting 11 localhost.localdomain events from the heartbeat eventClass
[08-Jan-2008 12:59:43] <MovoS> server is on centos5 using virtual infrastructure 2.0.1
[08-Jan-2008 13:00:22] <MovoS> hosts file is: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[08-Jan-2008 13:00:29] <MovoS> 172.19.23.135 zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 13:00:58] <MovoS> Any help or links greatly appreciated, thanks.
[08-Jan-2008 13:52:22] <klinstifen> anyone running centos5.1
[08-Jan-2008 13:52:24] <klinstifen> ?
[08-Jan-2008 14:13:31] <klinstifen> is it possible to reset the dashboard...reset it back to default settings?
[08-Jan-2008 14:40:23] <twm1010> klin:i poked around, didn't see anywhere to do that
[08-Jan-2008 14:43:33] <klinstifen> gar!
[08-Jan-2008 14:43:54] <klinstifen> that's the only aspect of my upgrade i have yet to resolve
[08-Jan-2008 14:46:30] <klinstifen> twm1010: how about adding portlets? got any ideas?
[08-Jan-2008 14:46:40] <klinstifen> my add portlets is blank too
[08-Jan-2008 15:01:55] <TheDeviant> Hey all...
[08-Jan-2008 15:15:37] <mGryphon> Hello again.
[08-Jan-2008 15:16:14] <mGryphon> Klinstifen: I'm still having the same issues you were helping me with yesterday. Updated to the latest flash, but I still have no way to add users, etc.
[08-Jan-2008 15:18:10] <mGryphon> I looked in the forums, but the only things I saw were bugs that look like they should have been fixed by 2.1.2
[08-Jan-2008 15:32:28] <twm1010> Have you tried to clear your browser cache, just curious
[08-Jan-2008 15:45:21] <klinstifen> mGryphon; is this a new install of zenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 15:49:13] <mGryphon> back.. sorry. yes, its a new install
[08-Jan-2008 15:50:48] <mGryphon> I did just find something in the forum which seems to describe the problem, perhaps.... but no solution. There is an error when I go to Settings->Menus
[08-Jan-2008 15:54:10] <mGryphon> I get the same error posted at http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2669&highlight=menus
[08-Jan-2008 15:56:12] <aurax> hello
[08-Jan-2008 15:56:19] <mGryphon> oh and yes, ive tried clearing the browser cache
[08-Jan-2008 15:56:33] <aurax> can anyone help out in setting up snmp for zenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 15:57:18] <twm1010> i'll help you
[08-Jan-2008 16:00:11] <aurax> thx
[08-Jan-2008 16:00:23] <aurax> i haven't figured out how to set it.. so i don't really know where to start..
[08-Jan-2008 16:00:32] <aurax> i got zenoss server up and running perfectly as it seems
[08-Jan-2008 16:01:53] <aurax> twm1010?
[08-Jan-2008 16:06:31] <rakATzenoss> aurax -- there?
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:17] <aurax> yeh
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:33] <rakATzenoss> so, you want to add your first device?
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:38] <aurax> yep
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:57] <rakATzenoss> cool. what type of device are you looking to add?
[08-Jan-2008 16:08:32] <rakATzenoss> network device like a router or a server?
[08-Jan-2008 16:08:45] <aurax> linux box
[08-Jan-2008 16:08:57] <aurax> server...
[08-Jan-2008 16:09:15] <rakATzenoss> what distro are you running
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:00] <aurax> this one is running ubuntu 7 server
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:02] <aurax> edition*
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:13] <aurax> 7.04 i think
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:35] <aurax> and i got snmp&snmpd deb packages installed and running
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:41] <rakATzenoss> great.
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:54] <rakATzenoss> have you done any configuration on these modules? setup the community string?
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:35] <aurax> nope
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:36] <aurax> nadda
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:37] <rakATzenoss> You'll also want to config syslog (whichever version ubuntu server is using) to forward messages to your zenoss server.
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:39] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:49] <rakATzenoss> well, let's just leave is for now.
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:56] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:16] <rakATzenoss> so in zenoss, you're going to click the "add device" menu item under the "Management" category on the left nav menu.
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:18] <twm1010> sorry about that aurax,got called away :|
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:28] <aurax> ah its okay twm1010
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:40] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:46] <aurax> (wb)
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:06] <aurax> i'm there rakATzenoss
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:13] <rakATzenoss> so in this form, you'll want to provide the device name -- this can be a resolving host name or IP address.
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:15] <twm1010> rak seems to know more linux voodoo then i do, you're probably better off with him
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:33] <aurax> hehe
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:40] <rakATzenoss> no voodoo here!
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:40] <aurax> okay i got the hostname and all
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:45] <aurax> choosed server/linux
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:58] <rakATzenoss> great enter "Public" for the Snmp community...
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:00] <aurax> snmp community public
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:06] <aurax> case sensitive?
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:18] <rakATzenoss> yes
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:22] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:36] <rakATzenoss> click Add Device
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:44] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:49] <aurax> waiting
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:27] <rakATzenoss> now in the left nav menu, click "Device Llist"
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:41] <aurax> no snmp found for ip
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:43] <aurax> uhm
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:43] <rakATzenoss> you should see the device you just added in this list.
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:56] <rakATzenoss> eh, maybe the service didn't get started in ubuntu.
[08-Jan-2008 16:16:17] <aurax> jah saying cannot open /var/proc something
[08-Jan-2008 16:16:20] <aurax> sec ill have a look
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:10] <aurax> oh okay
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:17] <aurax> its crying abuot ipv6
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:19] <rakATzenoss> in the meantime, I'm firing up an ubuntu box.
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:20] <aurax> i disabled it
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:28] <aurax> alright
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:51] <rakATzenoss> to retry the modeling step, click your device in the device list...
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:12] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:24] <aurax> it's not there
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:27] <aurax> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:29] <rakATzenoss> ah ok...
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:37] <rakATzenoss> try re-adding.
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:40] <aurax> how should i configure snmp on the remote ?
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:53] <aurax> install it is enough?
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:57] <rakATzenoss> that's what I'm looking at now.
[08-Jan-2008 16:19:07] <rakATzenoss> got ubuntu running here now.
[08-Jan-2008 16:19:10] <rakATzenoss> let's see here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:19:42] <rakATzenoss> i'm fairly certain it's installed with the default community of "public"
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:26] <aurax> ah yeh
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:35] <aurax> still saying no snmp found for ...
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:43] <twm1010> firewall?
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:52] <twm1010> port 161 must be open
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:53] <rakATzenoss> box on the same net segment?
[08-Jan-2008 16:21:22] <aurax> no firewall..
[08-Jan-2008 16:21:25] <aurax> and it's not opend
[08-Jan-2008 16:22:17] <aurax> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 16:22:31] <rakATzenoss> hold on a sec... I'll be where you are in a sec here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:22:37] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:38] <aurax> oh
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:39] <aurax> i know why
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:42] <aurax> it assigned to 127.0.0.1
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:45] <aurax> lame /etc/hosts
[08-Jan-2008 16:24:33] <aurax> nope... still not working
[08-Jan-2008 16:24:45] <rakATzenoss> ok, give me a sec -- just installed snmp in my ubuntu vm
[08-Jan-2008 16:24:53] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:17] <rakATzenoss> make sure snmpd is started...
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:28] <rakATzenoss> run: //
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:29] <rakATzenoss> run /
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:37] <rakATzenoss> run /etc/init.d/snmpd start
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:47] <aurax> it's started
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:51] <aurax> no binding to ip tho
[08-Jan-2008 16:26:25] <rakATzenoss> your netconfig is ok on this server right?
[08-Jan-2008 16:26:56] <aurax> sure
[08-Jan-2008 16:28:30] <aurax> mtu 9000 should interfear right?
[08-Jan-2008 16:28:35] <aurax> shouldn't
[08-Jan-2008 16:29:12] <rakATzenoss> no.
[08-Jan-2008 16:29:50] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:16] <aurax> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:49] <rakATzenoss> oh right -- we need to run snmpconf
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:54] <aurax> oo
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:56] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:04] <rakATzenoss> this basically sets up snmpd.conf on the server.
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:18] <aurax> yep, i'm there.
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:41] <aurax> access control setup ?
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:56] <rakATzenoss> yes -- need to allow public access to snmp
[08-Jan-2008 16:32:24] <aurax> so it's snmpv1/snmpv2... read-write access..
[08-Jan-2008 16:32:30] <aurax> and choose public all unrestricted
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:26] <rakATzenoss> I wouldn't allow write access -- but for testing purposes, might be fine.
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:31] <aurax> there is still no port assigned...
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:34] <rakATzenoss> I'm assuming this is not a production server.
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:40] <aurax> its not opening port...
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:09] <aurax> maybe i need libnet-snmp ?
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:41] <rakATzenoss> nah.
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:46] <rakATzenoss> it's just the setup here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:53] <rakATzenoss> getting it going now
[08-Jan-2008 16:38:55] <aurax> -x port name
[08-Jan-2008 16:38:59] <aurax> jap working
[08-Jan-2008 16:39:10] <aurax> "device jupiter loaded!"
[08-Jan-2008 16:41:00] <klinstifen> anyone ever experience YAHOO.zenoss.portlet.ProdStatePortlet is not a constructor?
[08-Jan-2008 16:43:38] <aurax> rakATzenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 16:43:45] <rakATzenoss> yeah I'm here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:43:51] <rakATzenoss> still looking at unbuntu
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:41] <aurax> seems like default snmp installion in ubuntu does not specify ip
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:42] <aurax> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p /var/run/snmpd.pid -x 162'
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:46] <aurax> to fix in init.d script
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:59] <rakATzenoss> lovely.
[08-Jan-2008 16:45:06] <aurax> yeh..
[08-Jan-2008 16:46:49] <rakATzenoss> btw, that should be port 161.
[08-Jan-2008 16:47:21] <aurax> oh
[08-Jan-2008 16:52:55] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:01] <aurax> everything work's here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:09] <rakATzenoss> what did you have to mod?
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:22] <rakATzenoss> something's up with ubuntu here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:35] <rakATzenoss> doesn't seem to be binding snmpd to the right ip.
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:08] <aurax> i modded the init.d script
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:22] <aurax> see the SNMPDOPTS variable
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:37] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:42] <aurax> that's the one
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:53] <aurax> and add your hostname to external ip in /etc/hosts
[08-Jan-2008 16:55:23] <rakATzenoss> oh christ..
[08-Jan-2008 16:55:43] <aurax> jah
[08-Jan-2008 16:57:38] <aurax> weird now it's down again
[08-Jan-2008 16:58:27] <rakATzenoss> I'm bouncing ubunty
[08-Jan-2008 17:00:25] <mGryphon> klinstifen: any more ideas of what I might try?
[08-Jan-2008 17:01:09] <klinstifen> mGryphon: what os is zenoss install on?
[08-Jan-2008 17:01:17] <mGryphon> Centos 5
[08-Jan-2008 17:01:36] <aurax> ok found it
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:31] <rakATzenoss> what you find?
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:44] <aurax> it's working but binding to 0.0.0.0
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:54] <rakATzenoss> that's better than localhost
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:56] <aurax> but it's working...
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:58] <klinstifen> Gryph: i dunno...right now i am stuggling with cent myself
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:05] <klinstifen> my dashboard is missing
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:32] <mGryphon> My dashboard is present. (I think) Just those pesky buttons.
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:54] <aurax> in /etc/default/snmpd
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:55] <aurax> # snmpd options (use syslog, close stdin/out/err).
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:55] <aurax> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -x 161 -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 10.10.50.122'
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:00] <klinstifen> gryph: is is only those buttons or anything with the down arrow?
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:14] <mGryphon> There are no down arrows anywhere
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:33] <mGryphon> so far as I know, that's it.. But it makes it difficult to do much with the system.
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:39] <rakATzenoss> damn.
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:40] <rakATzenoss> ok
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:49] <twm1010> klinst: have you tried accessing the dashboard from another computer?
[08-Jan-2008 17:05:52] <rakATzenoss> wow -- I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be the feel-good distro!
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:08] <rakATzenoss> cool, so zenoos modeled your server right?
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:10] <aurax> lol
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:15] <aurax> yep
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:16] <klinstifen> twm: yes I have...no dice
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:18] <rakATzenoss> terrfic.
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:23] <aurax> but i still see in zenoss device list
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:26] <aurax> that snmp is red flaged
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:18] <rakATzenoss> that might be related tot he specific snmp setup...
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:25] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:32] <rakATzenoss> this is where the snmpdconf comes into play...
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:48] <rakATzenoss> of course, if you're familiar with snmp it's easier to mod the snmpd.conf file...
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:59] <aurax> jap
[08-Jan-2008 17:09:07] <aurax> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 17:09:09] <aurax> so what's next?
[08-Jan-2008 17:09:53] <rakATzenoss> try setting up syslog on your ubuntu server to forward messages to zenoss.
[08-Jan-2008 17:11:01] <MoreDakka> Any cisco ACL guru's here?
[08-Jan-2008 17:11:41] <aurax> brb have to reconnect
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[08-Jan-2008 17:27:43] <aurax_> rakATzenoss, done..
[08-Jan-2008 17:27:49] <rakATzenoss> cool.
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:13] <rakATzenoss> done being the syslog redirection?
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:22] <aurax_> yes, how do i check it ?
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:27] <rakATzenoss> to test, try su'ing a few times.
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:44] <rakATzenoss> of course, enter the wrong pass.
[08-Jan-2008 17:29:37] <aurax_> i see event console
[08-Jan-2008 17:30:01] <rakATzenoss> go to the device.
[08-Jan-2008 17:30:24] <rakATzenoss> then on the box, do a su - and enter the wrong pass.
[08-Jan-2008 17:30:33] <rakATzenoss> usually throws a syslog alert.
[08-Jan-2008 17:31:00] <rakATzenoss> you'll see one of the color indicators increment on the device page after a refresh
[08-Jan-2008 17:31:34] <aurax_> yeh
[08-Jan-2008 17:31:43] <aurax_> i can see in the event console the box syslog
[08-Jan-2008 17:33:44] <aurax_> what else can i do with zenoss ?
[08-Jan-2008 17:33:45] <aurax_>
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:10] <rakATzenoss> heh, this is a nice test for me -- I start fulltime at zenoss next week!
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:16] <rakATzenoss>
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:26] <aurax_> work there?
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:30] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:32] <aurax_> ah nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:36] <aurax_> good luck mate
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:54] <rakATzenoss> so, take a look at the process monitoring stuff.
[08-Jan-2008 17:35:14] <rakATzenoss> very cool for keeping on tabs of any processes running on a device
[08-Jan-2008 17:35:23] <rakATzenoss> also, try adding a network device running snmp.
[08-Jan-2008 17:36:09] <aurax_> nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:36:10] <aurax_> ok
[08-Jan-2008 17:36:47] <rakATzenoss> there are also some cool zenpacks and a great supporting community.
[08-Jan-2008 17:37:21] <rakATzenoss> another nice real world use-case might be to use the http monitor to monitor a Web site's status.
[08-Jan-2008 17:40:19] <aurax_> nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:40:22] <aurax_> this seems really cool
[08-Jan-2008 17:40:47] <rakATzenoss> it's really a great product.
[08-Jan-2008 17:41:23] <rakATzenoss> the extensibility is key...
[08-Jan-2008 17:41:44] <rakATzenoss> We're going to see some very cool zenpacks coming this year.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:09] <twm1010> I really hope so.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:16] <twm1010> the WMI one helped me out big-time
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:24] <rakATzenoss> great.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:30] <twm1010> I'm working on a Netware one right now.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:37] <rakATzenoss> very nice.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:49] <rakATzenoss> you got it up on the zenoss server?
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:52] <twm1010> I'm having trouble deciding what to monitor though, besides CPU performance
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:57] <rakATzenoss> publicize it -- you'll get a ton of help.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:09] <rakATzenoss> on a netware server???
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:16] <rakATzenoss> storage usage.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:30] <rakATzenoss> that's HUGE.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:34] <twm1010> Yeah, I've really just got more reading to do, on how to get it to model devices, and recognize things
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:40] <rakATzenoss> network connections.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:51] <rakATzenoss> err rather open network connections...
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:51] <twm1010> I can pull everything I need using the nagios plug-in check_nwstat
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:06] <twm1010> SNMP data seems kind of inconsistent between my servers
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:11] * rakATzenoss thinking back to the mid-nineties and netware headaches...
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:16] <twm1010> almost like some of them don't support the host-resources mib
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:30] <rakATzenoss> running the same version of netware?
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:35] <rakATzenoss> same build level and all?
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:41] <twm1010> yeah, but all from different upgrade scenarios
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:47] <rakATzenoss> ah interesting.
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:55] <twm1010> for instance my two servers here on-site were upgrades from v.4, to v5, to 6.5
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:00] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:04] <twm1010> whereas the ones at HQ are 5.1 to 6.5
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:12] <twm1010> some are open enterprise, some are not
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:30] <rakATzenoss> netware invented inconsistency after upgrades... ms perfected it.
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:05] <twm1010> Hah, well I think the Zenpack will be a mix of methods, i think performance may come from the nagios plug-in, but storage information/modeling may come from SNMP
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:37] <rakATzenoss> well, like I said, don't be afraid to publicize -- I'm sure there are many others out there that can lend a hand.
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:46] <twm1010> I just moved my Zenoss VM from an old server to a very, VERY, powerful ESX box, things are moving nicely now.
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:58] <rakATzenoss> heh, I run mine on a macbook pro.
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:11] <rakATzenoss> er. my zenoss vm
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:22] <rakATzenoss> and my client boxes.
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:38] <twm1010> nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:39] <rakATzenoss> I'm a mad-man when it comes to VMs...
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:45] <twm1010> did you have to expand the virtual disk size?
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:55] <rakATzenoss> nah.
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:04] <rakATzenoss> but you do have to specify the memory.
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:14] <twm1010> mine filled up in about a week
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:16] <rakATzenoss> that for some reason doesn't get stored with the vmware appliance.
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:38] <rakATzenoss> check your logging levels.
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:09] <twm1010> Actually, I've been wondering, where is data retention configured? How much history does Zenoss keep? Is it different for perf data than for events?
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:31] <rakATzenoss> we had a case come thru support recently where a baracuda spam server with a low log threshold filled the zenoss db.
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:54] <rakATzenoss> mysql is used to store events.
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:55] <rakATzenoss> I
[08-Jan-2008 17:52:11] <rakATzenoss> 'm not sure how events are offloaded if at all.
[08-Jan-2008 17:52:41] <rakATzenoss> as far as perf data, i <believe> it is stored using rrd
[08-Jan-2008 17:53:46] <rakATzenoss> of course I should add the disclaimer that I start officially at zenoss next week, so my knowledge is not up to speed.
[08-Jan-2008 17:54:08] <rakATzenoss> if you need a more solid answer, post your question to the zenoss forums.
[08-Jan-2008 17:54:24] <twm1010> Well. Ihaven't approached zenpack creation yet, I'll be starting that soon. Netware is dying a slow death, I'm sure some people will want it
[08-Jan-2008 17:54:32] <twm1010> S
[08-Jan-2008 17:55:16] <rakATzenoss> it works -- just add storage. Use zenoss to prove your case that it's dead.
[08-Jan-2008 17:55:18] <twm1010> We use a lot of Novell stuff here. I may see about a Groupwise and BorderManager Zenpack as well
[08-Jan-2008 17:55:39] <rakATzenoss> Groupwise would be cool -- never used BorderManager.
[08-Jan-2008 17:56:22] <twm1010> Well groupwise comes with SNMP goodies, I would love to track mail statistics across the POAs
[08-Jan-2008 17:57:27] <MuseHome> My log is filled with. "skipping WinServer has bad wmi state" any ideas?
[08-Jan-2008 17:57:48] <rakATzenoss> this is on one server in particular?
[08-Jan-2008 17:58:22] <rakATzenoss> I'd love to start a directory of snmp-enabled hardware/software.
[08-Jan-2008 17:58:34] <MuseHome> humm this might be the 2000 problem..
[08-Jan-2008 17:58:42] <rakATzenoss> It would be an ambitious process, but extremely helpful to zenoss users.
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:01] <twm1010> I imported like 600 mibs yesterday, it took maybe 30 minutes
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:03] <rakATzenoss> 2000 problem?
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:17] <rakATzenoss> not bad at all.
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:28] <MuseHome> "Zenwin does not currently work on Windows 2000"
[08-Jan-2008 18:00:00] <rakATzenoss> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:00:08] <MuseHome> but I've lost all my WMI data. last week. found wmic running at 90%
[08-Jan-2008 18:01:47] <twm1010> Try restarting the WMI service?
[08-Jan-2008 18:02:18] <MuseHome> and I had to kill zenwinmodeler
[08-Jan-2008 18:02:30] <MuseHome> would not restart or stop.
[08-Jan-2008 18:02:56] <MuseHome> is wmi in zenwinmodeler?
[08-Jan-2008 18:03:33] <twm1010> well wmic is the command zenoss uses to query WMI
[08-Jan-2008 18:04:30] <MuseHome> right but what modul calls it?
[08-Jan-2008 18:06:43] <twm1010> zenwinmodeler would certainly call it
[08-Jan-2008 18:07:05] <twm1010> and maybe zenwin ?
[08-Jan-2008 18:07:58] Tinoza735 is now known as Tinozaure
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:19] <MuseHome> on that I killed it and restarted zenoss. I dont' see any wmic processes. ps -ef | grep wmic
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:37] <twm1010> well, i don't think wmic would be running all the time
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:41] <twm1010> only when executing a query
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:57] <twm1010> it happens so fast,it's be pretty hard to catch it
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:21] <twm1010> did you try restarting the WMI service on the Windows machine that is generating the events?
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:35] <MuseHome> ok. so wmic setting in top running at 90 was realy bad :-)
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:48] <MuseHome> no I havn't.
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:57] <twm1010> Right, its not a complicated process, its really not much different than an SNMPGET
[08-Jan-2008 18:12:25] <MuseHome> do you happen to know what log the wmic info would be in?
[08-Jan-2008 18:12:27] <twm1010> it provides the windows box supplied credentials and says "what is this value?" its a text transaction, should have little to no overhead
[08-Jan-2008 18:12:29] <grogan> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:13:07] <twm1010> Well I should say the end result isn't much different than an SNMPget, WMI certainly is a bit different under the hood
[08-Jan-2008 18:13:50] <MuseHome> sure...
[08-Jan-2008 18:14:01] <twm1010> couldn't tell you which log...probably zenwinmodeler or zenwin
[08-Jan-2008 18:14:30] <grogan> is there a command line way to generate missing rrd files
[08-Jan-2008 18:14:51] <twm1010> grogan: they were there before and are now gone? or are these new datapoints?
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:01] <grogan> no. they weren't there before
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:09] <grogan> didn't have rrdtool installed earlier.
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:15] <twm1010> they will autogenerate as soon as it starts pulling data
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:32] <twm1010> your graphs say something like data file missing ?
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:36] <grogan> is there a way to kickstart that process?
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:37] <grogan> eah.
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:39] <grogan> yeah
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:55] <twm1010> not really, two succesful queries and you should be on your way
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:07] <twm1010> i mean, there might be.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:12] <twm1010> i just don't know
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:16] <grogan> yeah, it's been that way overnight.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:26] <twm1010> ok, then its not getting good data from the client
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:31] <grogan> yeah. hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:43] <grogan> this is simple stuff too, like cpu idle .etc.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:50] <grogan> stuff that cacti is currently already picking up.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:55] <twm1010> over SNMP?
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:58] <grogan> yup
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:13] <twm1010> did you set the community under Zproperties?
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:16] <grogan> yup
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:21] <grogan> community's already set properly
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:42] <grogan> it already is picking up all the interfaces, routes, etc
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:45] <grogan> just no graphing.
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:47] <twm1010> what OS?
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:52] <grogan> gentoo.
[08-Jan-2008 18:18:28] <twm1010> Very odd, i guarantee you its something really easy
[08-Jan-2008 18:18:34] <grogan> yeah no kidding
[08-Jan-2008 18:18:50] <grogan> been googling around for this stuff, and little that is relevant is popping up
[08-Jan-2008 18:19:32] <twm1010> Where did you set the comunnity, on the zproperties of the device or the device class?
[08-Jan-2008 18:19:41] <twm1010> well shoot the community is right, becase you said it had all that other info
[08-Jan-2008 18:21:44] <twm1010> Login to the zenoss server console, and try a manual snmpwalk, ala snmpwalk -v 1 -c yourcommunityname serverIP 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.10.1.5.2
[08-Jan-2008 18:22:04] <twm1010> that should return a value for CPU load over the past 5 mins
[08-Jan-2008 18:24:56] <MuseHome> Doesn't any one know waht "Clear Heardbeats" does?
[08-Jan-2008 18:28:16] <twm1010> I've used it when one of the Zenoss daemons has been restarted, but for some reason Zenoss still thinks it is down.
[08-Jan-2008 18:33:33] <MuseHome> So I can get wmic to get data from my systems but I'm not getting anything in the wmi graphs?
[08-Jan-2008 18:40:35] <grogan> yeah it returns that.
[08-Jan-2008 18:40:48] <twm1010> grogan: then it should work
[08-Jan-2008 18:40:52] <grogan> yeah go figure.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:02] <grogan> weird. maybe it was the sequence
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:12] <grogan> if I re-add, it might load the right things up.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:13] <twm1010> are there any events generated saying anything like snmp rejected or timed out or anything?
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:17] <grogan> nope.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:24] <grogan> gives routes, ip's. green all around.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:30] <grogan> just no graphs.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:37] <grogan> oh wait, one of the apc's graphs.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:38] <grogan> heh
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:51] <grogan> and that was added way in the beginning.
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:05] <twm1010> odd, so none of your devices are showing graphs??
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:09] <grogan> yeah. go figure
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:17] <grogan> not very useful (as of yet)
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:18] <grogan> heh
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:26] <twm1010> and all the servers your monitoring are gentoo as well?
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:33] <grogan> yup
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:46] <twm1010> does localhost have performance data?
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:46] <grogan> the cacti stuff works perfectly.
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:50] <grogan> nope.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:00] <twm1010> i think you've got a daemon down maybe
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:07] <grogan> no. all daemons are up.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:08] <grogan> all 15 of them
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:17] <grogan> ran into that issue too.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:19] <twm1010> but zenoss can't even pull data from it's own host box, thats weird
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:21] <grogan> but got around that eventually.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:32] <grogan> well, it might be that something needs to get tweaked.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:37] <grogan> some config somewhere, but not sure where
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:46] <twm1010> i never had to "install" rrdtool on my centos box when i was using that
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:52] <grogan> oh really? hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:54] <grogan> yeah. weird the
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:56] <grogan> then.
[08-Jan-2008 18:44:11] <twm1010> suggestion for you, install vmware, and run the virtual appliance
[08-Jan-2008 18:44:16] <grogan> heh. yeah go figure
[08-Jan-2008 18:51:54] <grogan> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:52:06] <grogan> what do you have under the zenoss/management/mibs?
[08-Jan-2008 18:52:15] <grogan> do you have a lot of mibs listed?
[08-Jan-2008 18:53:26] <twm1010> I have over 500, i added them yesterday
[08-Jan-2008 18:53:32] <twm1010> by default it will be fairly empty
[08-Jan-2008 18:55:15] <grogan> yeah, I saw none initially.
[08-Jan-2008 19:01:34] <mGryphon> klinstifen: Installed it on another CENTOS5 box and it seems to be working.
[08-Jan-2008 19:10:21] <twm1010> Boy those Zenoss forums crrrrrawwwll....
[08-Jan-2008 19:28:19] <twm1010> I'm a little unsure where to start to get Zenoss to model the netware filesystem
[08-Jan-2008 19:34:14] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[08-Jan-2008 19:54:54] <MuseHome> anything special about Perf tab data? I'm getting SNMP data under my ethernet interfaces. but no snmp CPU data under Pref or WMI free mem.
[08-Jan-2008 19:59:33] <johns55> should have cpu and memory too
[08-Jan-2008 20:00:26] <MuseHome> localhost (linux) is working. but my other systems (windows) are not.
[08-Jan-2008 20:00:45] <MuseHome> I'm checking the network devices now.
[08-Jan-2008 20:01:16] <johns55> u need to download the snmp informat
[08-Jan-2008 20:01:25] <johns55> for windows
[08-Jan-2008 20:02:57] <MuseHome> this was all working last week...
[08-Jan-2008 20:03:39] <MuseHome> So my routers are showing data in the Perf tab...
[08-Jan-2008 20:03:56] <johns55> do u have snmp informat installed for the windows machine?
[08-Jan-2008 20:04:54] <MuseHome> Yes. I had 120 or so windows systems working last week. with WMI data graphing. this week all the graphs just cut off.
[08-Jan-2008 20:05:14] <MuseHome> I've use the CLI to get the wmi connections and get good data back.
[08-Jan-2008 20:05:42] <johns55> so none exisit?
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:02] <johns55> have u tried a different browser? to view these graphs
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:09] <MuseHome> I have graphs. just no data sense last week.
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:26] <twm1010> Are you sure your password stored in zProperties didn't expire?
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:59] <twm1010> go into zProperties of /Devices/Windows, and retype both the username and password and then give it a few minutes
[08-Jan-2008 20:07:00] <MuseHome> I used the one I had set last week at the command line.
[08-Jan-2008 20:07:19] <MuseHome> do they time on in zenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 20:07:37] <twm1010> Nope, but maybe on the windows side they did?
[08-Jan-2008 20:08:25] <MuseHome> I'll give it a try.
[08-Jan-2008 20:09:28] <MuseHome> I'm thinking I may have done something to a template.
[08-Jan-2008 20:21:09] <MuseHome> in my zencommand.log I see INFO: zen.zencommand: Deleting command WINSERVER from $PATH_TO/check_wimc_memport.pl "IP" "uname" "pword". What is that doing?
[08-Jan-2008 20:21:18] <MuseHome> Looks like I have one for each server...
[08-Jan-2008 20:23:11] <MuseHome> What ever that is it what killed my graphs. it's time stamp is the same as the last graph plot point.
[08-Jan-2008 20:27:45] <MuseHome> 2008-01-02 21:36:39 INFO zen.zencommand: Deleting command NYFS01BR01 from $ZENHOME/Products/WindowsWMIDeviceTemplateV2/libexec/check_wmic_memory.pl "10.124.1.20"
[08-Jan-2008 20:28:01] <MuseHome> does anyone know what that did?
[08-Jan-2008 20:29:49] <grogan> hmm intteresting
[08-Jan-2008 20:30:33] <grogan> running zenperfsnmp with verbose mode shows that there's a set of devices somewhere that's getting loaded
[08-Jan-2008 20:30:46] <grogan> not even sure where the hell its reading that from either
[08-Jan-2008 20:35:56] <MuseHome> ls is deleteing something for the pickle?
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:23] <aurax_> back
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:27] <aurax_> anyone around ?
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:40] <MuseHome> I'm still here :-)
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:41] <aurax_> i got a small problem with zenoss saying status: down on a certein server
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:48] <MuseHome> but who am I...
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:58] <aurax_> dunno
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:59] <aurax_>
[08-Jan-2008 20:44:34] <MuseHome> :-D
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:22] <aurax_> any idea how to debug this problem ?
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:40] <johns55> maybe the server is down
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:52] <aurax_> no it's not
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:58] <johns55> firewall?
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:09] <aurax_> nope, it's the same server that the zenoss is on
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:16] <MuseHome> what happens when you snmpwalkit?
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:17] <johns55> o
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:20] <johns55> yes
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:23] <johns55> snmpwalk that
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:30] <johns55> make sure snmpd.conf is correct
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:01] <MuseHome> so it's localhost?
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:09] <aurax_> no, i was using the real host
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:28] <johns55> can u put in pastebin ur snmpd.conf?
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:32] <MuseHome> but your problem is that the local host is showing up as down?
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:56] <aurax_> syre
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:56] <aurax_> sure
[08-Jan-2008 20:48:16] <aurax_> MuseHome, no - it's just shows status: down
[08-Jan-2008 20:48:21] <aurax_> for some weird reason
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:24] <MuseHome> did you add a line in the hosts file for your ip address?
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:30] <aurax_> http://pastebin.com/m5470be7b\
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:32] <aurax_> http://pastebin.com/m5470be7b
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:41] <aurax_> yep did ti
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:42] <aurax_> it
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:53] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 20:50:26] <johns55> would u mind if i suggest a conf file for u?
[08-Jan-2008 20:50:38] <aurax_> sure
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:48] <johns55> http://pastebin.com/d1dc072e9
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:50] <johns55> give this a shot
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:58] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:59] <johns55> and restart snmpd too
[08-Jan-2008 20:54:51] <aurax_> oo
[08-Jan-2008 20:54:56] <aurax_> i think i know why i'm getting this error
[08-Jan-2008 20:54:58] <aurax_> it's ping related error
[08-Jan-2008 20:55:10] <johns55> u turn icmp off?
[08-Jan-2008 20:55:48] <aurax_> 10.10.50.124 sendto error Host venus and venus.server1.local are both using ip 10.10.50.124
[08-Jan-2008 20:55:51] <aurax_> sendto error
[08-Jan-2008 20:58:50] <grogan> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 21:09:04] <nucky> anyone here successfully install on freebsd 6.2
[08-Jan-2008 21:10:26] <nucky> the directions on http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-freebsd-6.2/ are not the greatest
[08-Jan-2008 21:10:43] <nucky> im struggling with the environment variables
[08-Jan-2008 21:10:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on FreeBSD 6.2 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-Jan-2008 21:13:24] <johns55> nucky, have u tried installing from source?
[08-Jan-2008 21:19:06] <nucky> that's what it is pretty much
[08-Jan-2008 21:19:29] <nucky> im not installing a pre-built version
[08-Jan-2008 21:19:58] <grogan> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:06] <grogan> so I see the command line arguments for zenperfsnmp
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:08] <nucky> it cant find python
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:41] <grogan> too bad the -dDEVICE flag doesn't seem to add the defined devices
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:43] <nucky> and the source directions have me export the following environment variable
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:45] <nucky> export PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:56] <nucky> export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:21:17] <nucky> that being said ...there is not a /lib/python path in /usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:21:32] <nucky> python is in /usr/local/bin/python
[08-Jan-2008 21:21:53] <nucky> and even changing it to that..it wont build
[08-Jan-2008 21:23:33] <twm1010> nucky, look for a post on the bulletin board about having trouble installing w/MAC OSX, i believe the same problem applied
[08-Jan-2008 21:24:23] <nucky> twm1010: will do..how about someone update the documentation on the howto then
[08-Jan-2008 21:24:46] <nucky> the install guide for bsd 6.2 is brutal
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:08] <johns55> nucky
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:16] <johns55> dont listen to the guide
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:27] <nucky> johns55: yeah i see that
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:33] <johns55> u first need to install python on /usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:36] <johns55> compile that
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:43] <johns55> and install python 2.4
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:56] <johns55> then install zenoss from source using the zenoss user u created
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:58] <nucky> johns55: i have python installed on my systen already
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:02] <johns55> no
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:04] <johns55> dont use that
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:08] <nucky> ok
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:20] <johns55> download python 2.4 from source
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:29] <twm1010> Is the ZenossBB dreadfully slow for anyone else?
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:30] <johns55> compile it to install under /usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:45] <johns55> then download zenoss source, extract it
[08-Jan-2008 21:28:03] <johns55> before u run install.sh, make sure to edit the build-functions to point the python install to /usr/local/zenoss/
[08-Jan-2008 21:28:12] <johns55> it should work after that
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:08] <nucky> johns55: can i point it to my existing python modules?
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:12] <nucky> in /usr/local/lib/python2.5
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:24] <grogan> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:27] <johns55> no, for some reason zenoss does not like version 2.5
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:28] <nucky> or i really have to rebuild to that dir
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:30] <nucky> ok
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:33] <johns55> i suggest 2.4
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:56] <grogan> can someone look at this zenperfsnmp output and give me a heads up as to why it's not loading the device?
[08-Jan-2008 21:31:37] <nucky> johns55: ok
[08-Jan-2008 21:32:12] <grogan> http://pastebin.com/d45b1234c
[08-Jan-2008 21:32:22] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 21:38:27] <MuseHome> anyone know what the log is talking about?
[08-Jan-2008 21:38:27] <MuseHome> 2008-01-02 21:36:39 INFO zen.zencommand: Deleting command NYFS01BR01 from $ZENHOME/Products/WindowsWMIDeviceTemplateV2/libexec/check_wmic_memory.pl "10.124.1.20"
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[08-Jan-2008 23:04:53] <grogan> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 23:07:41] <johns55> ?
[08-Jan-2008 23:11:32] <grogan> still haven't been able to figure out why this thing won't load up with rrd graphing.
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:05] <grogan> snmpwalk picks up the interfaces, but won't give me rrd graphing on the traffic stats
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:50] <johns55> is it just empty page?
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:55] <grogan> manually ran zenperfsnmp and got the following
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:55] <grogan> http://pastebin.com/d45b1234c
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:59] <johns55> have u tried a diff browser?
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:06] <grogan> it's not a browser issue.
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[08-Jan-2008 23:13:16] <grogan> it gives missing rrd file
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:27] <johns55> ahh ok
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:29] <johns55> dunno
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:42] <grogan> in the image file. where normally it'd be the graph of the monitored service/device/interface
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[09-Jan-2008 12:53:36] <Folke> Anyone here know the ins and outs of event mapping?
[09-Jan-2008 13:46:25] <MuseHome> None of my Data Source command are being run.
[09-Jan-2008 15:27:35] <MuseHome> I can't see all my templates from the bind window.
[09-Jan-2008 15:28:00] <MoreDakka> I can't seem to find the upgrade instructions for 2.1.1 -> 2.1.2. I'm not sure how simple or difficult it is.. :-/
[09-Jan-2008 15:29:31] <hotgrits> MoreDakka: its painless, really. First step is to run zenbackup, of course, but the rest is essentially an "rpm -Uvh ..."
[09-Jan-2008 15:29:50] <MoreDakka> Ahhh...the magical U in the rpm...always forget that one.
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:10] <MoreDakka> zenbackup just backsup the whole $ZENHOME dir right?
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:25] <MoreDakka> Or should I run zenbackup and copy the $ZENHOME somewhere?
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:31] <hotgrits> backs up $ZENHOME and the MySQL db
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:37] <MoreDakka> ah, good stuff.
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:40] <MoreDakka> thanks!
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:44] <hotgrits> np
[09-Jan-2008 15:31:02] <hotgrits> you might also run zenmigrate after the upgrade, but it may not be necessary for 2.11 -> 2.12
[09-Jan-2008 15:31:54] <MoreDakka> Yeah I haven't upgraded since I did the upgrade from 1.1.1 -> 2.0.3 -> 2.1.1....I never wanted to do another upgrade again.
[09-Jan-2008 15:32:30] <jsm> I'm trying to make zenoss less noisy about it's email updates.. for instance, I don't want to be emailed if a server spikes to 100% CPU if it is only sustained for 1ms, but if it is happening for a minute, I _would_ like a notification. How can I configure something like that?
[09-Jan-2008 15:32:43] <MoreDakka> will zenbackup be run as zenoss or root?
[09-Jan-2008 15:32:49] <MoreDakka> jsm: increase the count.
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:21] <hotgrits> jsm: you can add a delay to your alerting rule(s)
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:28] <MoreDakka> That too.
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:47] <jsm> hotgrits: yeah, the delay didn't really do the trick
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:50] <hotgrits> i'd run zenbackup as the zenoss user, Moredakka
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:59] <jsm> MoreDakka: how do i increase the count?
[09-Jan-2008 15:34:18] <MoreDakka> In the alert rule under the user
[09-Jan-2008 15:35:07] <MoreDakka> Running as user zenoss: http://pastebin.ca/848172
[09-Jan-2008 15:35:16] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 848172 (at pastebin.ca)
[09-Jan-2008 15:35:33] <jsm> MoreDakka: is that the "Repeat Time" field?
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:07] <jsm> hmm
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:08] <jsm> no
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:39] <jsm> ah, found it
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:59] <MoreDakka> haha...my zenoss was being slow or I would have found the exact area for you ;-)
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:07] <hotgrits> moredakka: check the ownership on the $ZENHOME/backups directory
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:21] <MoreDakka> Yeah the count for pretty much all our stuff is > 4
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:29] <jsm> what's the default delay?
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:33] <MoreDakka> No idea.
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:54] <hotgrits> the default delay is "immediate"
[09-Jan-2008 15:38:05] <jsm> what do you folks use for your delay?
[09-Jan-2008 15:38:17] <hotgrits> a lot depends on the event (how often something's polled, etc)
[09-Jan-2008 15:38:54] <jsm> oh, so i can set the count somewhere other than the alerting rules?
[09-Jan-2008 15:39:40] <MoreDakka> hotgrits: why would that dir be set as root? I don't think I've ever changed that.
[09-Jan-2008 15:40:29] <hotgrits> you probably didn't. I think we set it to root because it has credentials for your devices in the backup files
[09-Jan-2008 15:40:45] <hotgrits> thus you're probably better off running zenbackup as root and leaving the dir ownership alone.
[09-Jan-2008 15:41:30] <MoreDakka> It won't cause problems running as root?
[09-Jan-2008 15:41:48] <hotgrits> no, root is fine
[09-Jan-2008 15:41:53] <MoreDakka> k
[09-Jan-2008 15:43:14] <MoreDakka> How would I run the command? from the $ZENHOME dir bin/zenbackup? Tried that and I get errors right away. (sorry, mostly linux newb)
[09-Jan-2008 15:46:58] <hotgrits> you want to run it from $ZENHOME/bin. your root account doens't inherit the $ZENHOME environment variables
[09-Jan-2008 15:47:52] <MoreDakka> How can I specify that variable as root?
[09-Jan-2008 15:48:23] <hotgrits> export ZENHOME=/opt/zenoss
[09-Jan-2008 15:48:37] <hotgrits> and check it with: echo $ZENHOME, of course
[09-Jan-2008 15:52:19] <MoreDakka> Joy...that worked ;-)
[09-Jan-2008 15:53:58] <MuseHome> how can you remove a zenpack?
[09-Jan-2008 15:56:10] <hotgrits> MuseHome: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenpack-documentation/zenpack-faq#5
[09-Jan-2008 15:56:19] <MuseHome> thanks.
[09-Jan-2008 15:56:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack FAQ - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jan-2008 15:59:42] <MoreDakka> Uhh...strange. I did the upgrade with zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5.i386.rpm but zenoss shows the version as 2.1.1 and did a version check and it doesn't find any upgrades....weird?
[09-Jan-2008 16:12:09] <hotgrits> moredakka: what does "rpm -q zenoss" report?
[09-Jan-2008 16:12:29] <hotgrits> and make sure you refresh your browser
[09-Jan-2008 16:23:29] <grogan> hmmm
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:19] <grogan> looking at the log output when I run zenperfsnmp against one host, I get the following output:
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:24] <grogan> (located at: http://pastebin.com/d45b1234c)
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:35] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:36] <grogan> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Fetching configs for 0 devices DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Finished fetching configs for 0 devices
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:51] <grogan> does anyone know where those configs would be located?
[09-Jan-2008 16:25:07] <grogan> so that I can do some command line tweaking.
[09-Jan-2008 16:25:26] <grogan> there's definitely something screwy on this full zenoss install.
[09-Jan-2008 16:27:39] <MoreDakka> hotgritz: zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5, and yes I have refreshed the browser (Yay Ctrl-f5). Sorry for the late response.
[09-Jan-2008 16:27:58] <MoreDakka> So the upgrade went through but it's showing weird, I'll try to close and reopen the browser.
[09-Jan-2008 16:28:58] <grogan> for some of the monitored instances, rrd graphing works as expected, but in others, I get missing rrd file: <hostname> <type of process>
[09-Jan-2008 16:29:23] <grogan> i.e. for cpu idle it shows up as missing rrd file: app1 ssCpuRawIdle_ssCpuRawIdle
[09-Jan-2008 16:29:41] <grogan> and network load average stuff is just missing.
[09-Jan-2008 16:30:34] <grogan> strangely enough, the PDU's actually graph.
[09-Jan-2008 16:31:14] <grogan> throughput (in/out), packets (ifInUcastPackets,ifOutUcastPackets) etc
[09-Jan-2008 16:41:08] <grogan> hmm
[09-Jan-2008 16:41:22] <grogan> looking at event.log
[09-Jan-2008 16:41:38] <grogan> it's spewing errors on NameError: global name 'rrdtool' is not defined.
[09-Jan-2008 16:43:16] <grogan> holy crap. found a fix.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:16] <grogan> for the log file - here's the fix.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> Anyone having this problem (rrdtool references in $ZENHOME/log/event.log) try the following steps:
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 1. Switch to the zenoss user.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 2. zopectl stop
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 3. rm $ZENHOME/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.pyc
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 4. zopectl start
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:19] <grogan> 5. Try to view your graphs again.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:26] <grogan> nuts.
[09-Jan-2008 16:50:15] <grogan> hmmm only works for some stuff. (weird)
[09-Jan-2008 17:35:34] <twm1010> Anyone available for an SNMP question?
[09-Jan-2008 17:36:17] <rakATzenoss> what's the question?
[09-Jan-2008 17:37:33] <twm1010> Well... I loaded a MIB into Zenoss
[09-Jan-2008 17:37:54] <twm1010> but when I snmpwalk that OID, the datapoint isn't really defined there, it shows part of the OID
[09-Jan-2008 17:38:22] <twm1010> heres an example: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.23.2.66.2.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 301615
[09-Jan-2008 17:38:55] <twm1010> is that because certain RFC's were missing when I imported the MIBs into Zenoss maybe?
[09-Jan-2008 17:43:55] <twm1010> or can that just be ignored, and you just setup the datapoints with their actual names?
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[09-Jan-2008 17:45:38] <twm1010> Basically I'm setting up a performance template, I have an OID that will return 4-5 lines of values, so I want to set up one datasource, pulling multiple datapoints.
[09-Jan-2008 17:48:13] <twm1010> All the other templates I look at really only pull one value per OID
[09-Jan-2008 19:11:27] <dynasty> hey guys has anyone had issues upgrading to 2.1.70
[09-Jan-2008 19:11:29] <dynasty> ?
[09-Jan-2008 19:11:53] <twm1010> did that come out today? i thought the newest was 2.1.2
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:01] <dynasty> This is asanabria from the userlist and im as of right noqw screwed
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:09] <dynasty> they announced it in the email
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:32] <dynasty> Since im a ass for not backing zenoss up
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:39] <dynasty>
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:51] <dynasty> the daemons keep restarting itself
[09-Jan-2008 19:13:19] <dynasty> i tried downgrading and I keep getting iteration over non sequence for zencommand, zenperfsnmp and zenprocess
[09-Jan-2008 19:13:46] <MoreDakka> 2.1.7? wow...that's quite the jump from 2.1.2...
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:09] <twm1010> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4565
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss Core 2.1.70 (2.2 First Sprint Cycle) Now Available (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:54] <dynasty> man I wished I backed up zenoss
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:57] <dynasty> #$$%%%
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:19] <twm1010> What distribution are you on?
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:39] <dynasty> redhat el5
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:54] <twm1010> how did you do the update?
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:54] <dynasty> whats weird is i increased debugging to 10 aka logseverity 10
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:58] <dynasty> rpm -Uvh
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:05] <dynasty> i even ran zenmigrate manually
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:09] <twm1010> hrmm, i wonder if that still requires you to run zenmigrate?
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:09] <dynasty> as the zenoss user
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:45] <twm1010> that sounds like the right way to do it
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:46] <dynasty> and the logs are the same
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:50] <twm1010> does zenmigrate complete or what?
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:55] <dynasty> yep
[09-Jan-2008 19:18:25] <twm1010> hrmm, bit out of my realm, maybe rak can help ya
[09-Jan-2008 19:18:38] <dynasty> the only thing that fails part of the upgrade is this
[09-Jan-2008 19:18:47] <dynasty> ../usr/bin/replace /usr/bin/python $ZENHOME/bin/python -- $ZENHOME/bin/*
[09-Jan-2008 19:19:02] <dynasty> ./usr/bin/replace: File 'python2.4' not found (Errcode: 2)
[09-Jan-2008 19:19:10] <twm1010> it says in the changelog they upgraded their python version
[09-Jan-2008 19:19:37] <twm1010> perhaps you need to use yum and install python2.4 now, and then things will be groovy
[09-Jan-2008 19:20:02] <dynasty> python-2.4.3-19.el5
[09-Jan-2008 19:20:05] <dynasty> thats installed
[09-Jan-2008 19:22:12] <twm1010> maybe its trying to update a symb. link ?
[09-Jan-2008 19:23:21] <dynasty> not sure
[09-Jan-2008 19:24:11] <twm1010> well, it sounds like something easy, which is good news
[09-Jan-2008 19:32:07] <twm1010> I learned from my first few "upgrades"
[09-Jan-2008 19:32:25] <twm1010> I now shutdown my virtual machine, make a copy of the virtual disk, and THEN i attempt an upgrade
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:04] <dynasty> so i finally got the downgrade to work
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:46] <dynasty> reason the other daemons failed was because i uninstalled the zenoss-core-packs
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:50] <dynasty> once i reinstalled it
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:54] <dynasty> all daemons are now fine
[09-Jan-2008 19:36:05] <dynasty> still upgrade does not work
[09-Jan-2008 19:41:04] <twm1010> Post it up on the dev board
[09-Jan-2008 19:41:53] <dynasty> cool
[09-Jan-2008 19:42:09] <dynasty> hey twm1010 I appreciate the help
[09-Jan-2008 19:42:23] <dynasty> im out for the day
[09-Jan-2008 19:42:37] <dynasty> I think I have added a few more white hairs on my head and I'm only 28
[09-Jan-2008 20:13:01] <BrixWork> I have a question on zenoss and snmp.
[09-Jan-2008 20:15:00] <rakATzenoss> what's the question BrixWork? twm1010: sorry I ran earlier -- something came up.
[09-Jan-2008 20:16:52] <BrixWork> I am recieving an event from a system we have, and one of the varbinds is a # that should resolve to a sevarity of Alarm, Cleared, Info, etc. I can find in the mib where it's defined and that mib is in zenoss, should zenoss be resolving that to the enum values. I can upload the mibs(or the parts I'm taling about at least) to pastebin if that would help
[09-Jan-2008 20:17:58] <BrixWork> I hope that makes sense
[09-Jan-2008 20:24:41] <rakATzenoss> makes sense.
[09-Jan-2008 20:25:10] <rakATzenoss> you feel the mib properly maps the event level, but it's not being picked up by zenoss right?
[09-Jan-2008 20:25:18] <rakATzenoss> let me have a look at that mib.
[09-Jan-2008 20:25:24] <rakATzenoss> email to rak@zenoss.com
[09-Jan-2008 20:27:26] <twm1010> perhaps the event is being escalated
[09-Jan-2008 20:28:58] <BrixWork> yep
[09-Jan-2008 20:31:21] <BrixWork> give me a sec and I'll get them to you.
[09-Jan-2008 20:31:23] <BrixWork> thanks
[09-Jan-2008 20:37:42] <BrixWork> rakATzenoss: Just sent it.
[09-Jan-2008 20:38:45] <rakATzenoss> got 'em -- give me a few to review.
[09-Jan-2008 20:43:03] <rakATzenoss> which object-type you working with here?
[09-Jan-2008 20:43:45] <rakATzenoss> telicaEventMIBEvents?
[09-Jan-2008 20:44:14] <BrixWork> so I get a trap from the device that's telicaT1Alarm and that's in the TELICA-EVENT-MIB.mib
[09-Jan-2008 20:46:23] <BrixWork> in that trap the 4th varbind is telicaReptCondSeverity which is defined as SYNTAX TelicaCondSeverity
[09-Jan-2008 20:48:45] <rakATzenoss> I don't think this var resolves to a traditional severity level.
[09-Jan-2008 20:48:57] <rakATzenoss> still looking tho.
[09-Jan-2008 20:52:45] <rakATzenoss> ok -- I see.
[09-Jan-2008 20:52:49] <rakATzenoss> missed the import.
[09-Jan-2008 20:53:17] <rakATzenoss> ok, so it look like it's an int in {1..5}
[09-Jan-2008 20:53:52] <BrixWork> yep then in TELICA-TC it defines that to a word
[09-Jan-2008 20:54:03] <rakATzenoss> right I see.
[09-Jan-2008 20:54:25] <rakATzenoss> you want to know if you can refer to these values as the name (enum val) in zenoss?
[09-Jan-2008 20:55:05] <rakATzenoss> rather than 1 - 5.
[09-Jan-2008 20:55:24] <BrixWork> wondering if it should resolve to the enum values in the event details instead of the #
[09-Jan-2008 20:56:11] <johns55> on the perf tab on a windows machine, im getting missing rrd file, cpuPercentProcessorTime_cpuPrecentProcessorTime
[09-Jan-2008 20:56:19] <johns55> any ideas what this is?
[09-Jan-2008 20:57:24] <rakATzenoss> I'm fairly certain you'll see the numbers.
[09-Jan-2008 20:57:40] <rakATzenoss> I'm validating this on my setup.
[09-Jan-2008 20:58:33] <rakATzenoss> john55: what version of zenoss?
[09-Jan-2008 21:01:55] <johns55> 2.1.2
[09-Jan-2008 21:04:19] <johns55> linux servers cpu r showing up fine
[09-Jan-2008 21:04:23] <johns55> quite nice actually
[09-Jan-2008 21:05:14] <rakATzenoss> yes, something happened to the rrd file behind that windows graph.
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:20] <johns55> do you believe it is a problem on the remote machine or the zenoss machine?
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:20] <rakATzenoss> what's the exact error string you're seeing?
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:26] <rakATzenoss> zenoss.
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:55] <rakATzenoss> there's been work done to handle this situation better -- just trying to figure out the solution to restore the rrd file.
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:58] <johns55> MISSING RRD FILE: EXCHANGE cpuPercentProcessorTime_cpuPercentProcessorTime
[09-Jan-2008 21:07:09] <johns55> exchange is my machine name
[09-Jan-2008 21:07:16] <johns55> thats all this says on the graph
[09-Jan-2008 21:09:02] <rakATzenoss> just for the helluva it -- change the collection frequence.
[09-Jan-2008 21:09:05] <rakATzenoss> frequency
[09-Jan-2008 21:09:13] <rakATzenoss> what's it at now?
[09-Jan-2008 21:11:51] <BrixWork> rak: thanks for looking into it, seem's like it should follow the snmp mibs to resolve the items to enum value instead of stopping at numeric one.
[09-Jan-2008 21:12:25] <rakATzenoss> is there another device to which you can compare?
[09-Jan-2008 21:13:32] <MuseHome> anyone know how to add a route to a device so that it will show a link in the network map?
[09-Jan-2008 21:14:04] <MuseHome> I know I can goto OS and click add route. but what needs to be in there to make the link show up?
[09-Jan-2008 21:19:58] <rakATzenoss> it's only going to show up (the routed network) if there's a host on that network that's also registered with zenoss.
[09-Jan-2008 21:20:27] <johns55> rak: collection frequence?
[09-Jan-2008 21:20:59] <rakATzenoss> yes, there should be somewhere where you can change the sample frequency for the stat.
[09-Jan-2008 21:21:21] <rakATzenoss> I think a new rrd file is created when this frequency is modified.
[09-Jan-2008 21:23:12] <johns55> im not sure where, would u have an idea?
[09-Jan-2008 21:24:37] <R4K> back -- sorry about that.
[09-Jan-2008 21:33:36] <rakATzenoss> john55 -- still there?
[09-Jan-2008 21:33:58] <rakATzenoss> johns55 -- still there?
[09-Jan-2008 21:34:05] <rakATzenoss> go to Management/Monitors.
[09-Jan-2008 21:34:23] <rakATzenoss> select the appropriate performance monitor
[09-Jan-2008 21:34:58] <rakATzenoss> click edit , change one of the cycle values for the monitor then save.
[09-Jan-2008 21:35:12] <rakATzenoss> that should force the creation of the rrd file for that monitor.
[09-Jan-2008 21:35:46] <rakATzenoss> actually --- chancge the windows cycle intervals...
[09-Jan-2008 21:35:54] <rakATzenoss> you can change them back after getting it working.
[09-Jan-2008 21:38:35] <MuseHome> akATzenoss: So say I have server out there say 10.10.10.5 and don't have a router on that net. could I add a route to the network form some other router so it would make a link?
[09-Jan-2008 21:39:20] <rakATzenoss> correct.
[09-Jan-2008 21:39:46] <rakATzenoss> the network diagram just maps the routing tables between devices.
[09-Jan-2008 21:39:54] <tessier_> Anyone know what to put in my snmpd.conf to prevent it from logging each and every query from zenoss?
[09-Jan-2008 21:40:05] <MuseHome> rakAT: what would be the next hop?
[09-Jan-2008 21:40:43] <rakATzenoss> youd have a route on an existing device to the 10.10.10.0 network right?
[09-Jan-2008 21:40:47] <rakATzenoss> or no?
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:16] <MuseHome> rakAT: is it also used to set up a parent child for alearts?
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:31] <rakATzenoss> no. I don't believe so.
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:37] <MuseHome> no.. it's 5 servers and a switch.
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:37] <rakATzenoss> no
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:51] <rakATzenoss> ok, so you have 5 servers -- all on the same net?
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:58] <MuseHome> so yes
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:04] <rakATzenoss> running to the same switch.
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:07] <MuseHome> yep
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:20] <rakATzenoss> let's say that switch is connected to the internet.
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:30] <MuseHome> so switch goes I get 6 E-Mails.
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:32] <MuseHome> right
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:03] <MuseHome> I'm with you..
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:23] <rakATzenoss> in order to properly map... you have to have a contiguous route loaded into zenoss.
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:54] <rakATzenoss> so in your case I don't think you'll show your machine out on the 'net at 10.10.10.0 as a part of your local network.
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:55] <MuseHome> k
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:07] <rakATzenoss> that's a physical map.
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:10] <rakATzenoss> well.
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:19] <rakATzenoss> physical in terms of IP space.
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:29] <rakATzenoss> now if that box was VPN'ed to your local network...
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:57] <rakATzenoss> that would then map it as part of the network, because your VPN gateway is essentially a router.
[09-Jan-2008 21:45:07] <rakATzenoss> that make sense?
[09-Jan-2008 21:45:12] <MuseHome> sure.
[09-Jan-2008 21:45:40] <rakATzenoss> now as far as those email alerts go...
[09-Jan-2008 21:46:28] <rakATzenoss> if you set zenoss to email you when any of those devices are down...
[09-Jan-2008 21:46:58] <rakATzenoss> if zenoss is on the local net along side the other machines and the router drops, you'll only get a message for the router...
[09-Jan-2008 21:47:17] <rakATzenoss> unless you had tests on each server device that checks for internet connectivity.
[09-Jan-2008 21:47:21] <rakATzenoss> then you get some email.
[09-Jan-2008 21:47:52] <rakATzenoss> johns55 -- still there?
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:03] <MuseHome> So I have this Zen -- SW -- RT -- INET -- RT --SW -- server X 5
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:17] <rakATzenoss> ahhh
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:31] <rakATzenoss> so zenoss is the box on the 'net...
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:58] <rakATzenoss> not an ideal situation.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:08] <rakATzenoss> well..
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:11] <rakATzenoss> I take that back.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:12] <MuseHome> and some times : ZEN -- SW --RT -- PIX -- INET -- PIX -- SW -- Server X 5
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:31] <rakATzenoss> when that pIX is up -- they're on the same network.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:40] <rakATzenoss> and that <should> map.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:46] <MuseHome> still 3 hops.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:54] <rakATzenoss> yeah.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:15] <rakATzenoss> you'd enter a device for all devices -- the RT's and PIX
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:22] <rakATzenoss> you have snmp access to the PIX?
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:41] <rakATzenoss> because when it's up -- it'll report the link betweem the two routers.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:42] <MuseHome> no.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:50] <rakATzenoss> hmm ok.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:55] <MuseHome> and that is the probem.
[09-Jan-2008 21:51:16] <MuseHome> so I was hopping I could set a route betweent the rotuers skipping the PIX
[09-Jan-2008 21:51:56] <rakATzenoss> are you connecting to the routers via snmp?
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:00] <MuseHome> and the only real thing I care about is the loads of E-Mails when a RT or PIX goes down.
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:03] <rakATzenoss> and reading their routes?
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:06] <MuseHome> yes
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:22] <rakATzenoss> maybe you don't want to do that...
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:32] <rakATzenoss> and fake the route
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:48] <rakATzenoss> you can still get the events from the routers.
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:56] <rakATzenoss> right?
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:58] <rakATzenoss> just a thought.
[09-Jan-2008 21:53:29] <MuseHome> it's the loads of E-Mails from the serers. I just want one E-mail that the router or pix is down.
[09-Jan-2008 21:53:51] <MuseHome> I though the hops are what zenoss used to hide some alearts.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:15] <rakATzenoss> I'd have to read up a little more on that.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:22] <rakATzenoss> If so, that would be quite cool.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:31] <MuseHome> in nagios you could set a parent.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:57] <rakATzenoss> I see.
[09-Jan-2008 21:55:23] <MuseHome> I under stand you can not do that in zenoss. it only uses layer 3.
[09-Jan-2008 21:55:24] <rakATzenoss> so if the router was down, the system would be smart enough to eat the 5 sever down alerts.
[09-Jan-2008 21:55:34] <MuseHome> Yep
[09-Jan-2008 21:56:01] <MuseHome> and if it was only 5... :-) some times it 105...
[09-Jan-2008 21:56:47] <rakATzenoss> I'd pose the question again on the zenoss forum... sounds like a great candidate for a feature request.
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:05] <MuseHome> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5583
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Newbie questions about functionality (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:28] <MuseHome> is kind of it.
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:28] <MuseHome> "I believe that Zenoss supports parent child at Layer3 by ZenModeller understanding the routes in your network. When a router is down it will disable ZenPing and other monitoring for a period of time. There is currently no way to perform Layer2 Modelling - this is in discussion in the wiki"
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:57] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[09-Jan-2008 21:58:21] <MuseHome> So I just want to add a route to some router. then I could just make links out to all my remote sites.
[09-Jan-2008 21:58:40] <MuseHome> but I can't seem to make the link show up in the network map.
[09-Jan-2008 21:59:34] <MuseHome> it seem like the class set up zenoss has it doule be simple to add a device to a SW group and that SW to a Router group and so on.......
[09-Jan-2008 21:59:57] <MuseHome> should = doule
[09-Jan-2008 22:00:14] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[09-Jan-2008 22:00:19] <MuseHome> then use the class to control alerts.
[09-Jan-2008 22:01:32] <MuseHome> so that everthing in class /root/sw/rt01/inet/rt02/sw/ would not send any E-Mail if rt02 was down.
[09-Jan-2008 22:03:49] <johns55> rak: i've changed the windows service cycle from 60 to 30, should this create the missing rdd file immediately? I still get the same missing rrd file error
[09-Jan-2008 22:07:50] <grogan> john: I've been getting that same type of issue.
[09-Jan-2008 22:08:14] <grogan> i.e. rrd file missing.
[09-Jan-2008 22:08:23] <grogan> and it works on some interfaces, doesn't on others.
[09-Jan-2008 22:10:07] <grogan> found this solution that fixed some of the problems on one of the message boards.
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> Switch to the zenoss user.
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> zopectl stop
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> rm $ZENHOME/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.pyc
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> zopectl start
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> Try to view your graphs again.
[09-Jan-2008 22:19:43] <rakATzenoss> thanks grogan.
[09-Jan-2008 22:20:44] <grogan> hey, that was the problem I was banging my head against the wall for half a week trying to resolve
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[10-Jan-2008 00:29:12] <johns55> grogan, just did what you told me and still the same problem
[10-Jan-2008 00:39:35] <Gabriel25> Hi guys
[10-Jan-2008 00:39:44] <Gabriel25> I install zenoss on CentOS 5
[10-Jan-2008 00:39:50] <Gabriel25> And I have a problem
[10-Jan-2008 00:40:10] <Gabriel25> Whn I login on the webpage ... I don`t have that submenu
[10-Jan-2008 01:43:22] <johns55> anyone encounter an rdd file missing when showing cpu perf graphs?
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[10-Jan-2008 13:19:11] <twm1010> mornin
[10-Jan-2008 13:31:10] <twm1010> cluther: what's the correct command to update the rpath appliance?
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:04] <twm1010> rak: what's the correct process to update the rpath appliance?
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:30] <rakATzenoss> good morning -- at least here in EST.
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:38] <twm1010> mornin
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:39] <rakATzenoss> I have my way -- then there's the right way.
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:42] <rakATzenoss> let me dig that up.
[10-Jan-2008 13:37:03] <twm1010> Well, as long as it works, there really should be a sticky in the forum for this.
[10-Jan-2008 13:39:50] <twm1010> oddly enough, zentrap refuses to start this morning, saying there is something using its port, but i don't see the port listening
[10-Jan-2008 13:39:56] <twm1010> which port does zentrap listen on? 161?
[10-Jan-2008 13:39:56] <R4K> sorry -- I'm back online.
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:00] <R4K> no.
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:05] <R4K> that's snmp
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:15] <R4K> I think it's 162.
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:28] <R4K> damn not sure -- talking out of my ass again.
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:08] <R4K> ok, now I'm on panera wireless.
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:23] <twm1010> mmm... bagels
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:33] <R4K> grrr, My verizon card can be very flaky after a long period of inactivity...
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:44] <R4K> so, I use the conary command to update.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:12] <R4K> I don't have my zenoss vm handy, so I don't remember the <exact> command.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:21] <R4K> let me see if I can dig it up.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:32] <twm1010> ah, it was snmptrapd using the port
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:40] <R4K> we need a ZenBot on this channel.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:55] <R4K> 162?
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:06] <R4K> or is that on 161.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:06] <R4K> ?
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:15] <twm1010> yes, its 162
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:18] <R4K> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:26] <twm1010> reason i didn't see it at first, is because its a UDP port
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:29] <R4K> btw, don't let my nick fool you -- I'm VERY new to zenoss.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:41] <R4K> I come from Opsware which was more server-oriented...
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:44] <twm1010> and i always just scan for TCP ports
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:54] <R4K> making the transition to the world of snmp.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:59] <R4K> ah right.
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:04] <twm1010> That's ok. I had not touched SNMP until Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:32] <twm1010> My boss came to me and said, I want an IBM Director-like monitoring software, for half the cost. Needless to say I had his ear when I said "how about free?"
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:34] <R4K> seems fairly straightforward... especially after doing os provisioning at opsware!
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:54] <R4K> zenoss is an excellent product -- that's why I left Opsware/HP...
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:16] <twm1010> speaking of which I have to sit for 2 hours starting at 12:30 and listen to a presentation on director
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:32] <R4K> director?
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:48] <R4K> oh from HP.
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:57] <twm1010> Yeah, about 75% of our equipment is IBM
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:59] <twm1010> rest is HP
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:17] <twm1010> so I could see a benefit of a product that its tailored to the hardware we use
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:22] <R4K> HP just acquired Opsware back in August -- I hadn't even scratched the service in learning their product suite beyond Opsware.
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:36] <R4K> yes -- but be sure to stay hardware neutral.
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:50] <twm1010> I'll here them out, but if I can get Zenoss to do most of what it does
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:53] <R4K> the big boys would love nothing more than to gget us back to the mid-80s.
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:53] <twm1010> *hear
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:06] <R4K> so IBM is presenting Director?
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:10] <twm1010> Yes
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:12] <R4K> Can I ask who you're with...
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:22] <R4K> ah ok -- that makes more sense -- never heard that name used at HP.
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:24] <R4K> only IBM.
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:25] <twm1010> Sure, the Bradford Group
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:33] <R4K> where you located?
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:43] <R4K> East Coast?
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:46] <twm1010> HQ is in Chicago, I work out of Florida at a satellite office
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:53] <R4K> nice.
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:57] <R4K> Did it finally warm up down there?
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:03] <twm1010> 75 degrees yesterday
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:16] <R4K> My Father and Grandfather have been in the panhandle for the past two weeks -- FROZE their first week.
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:25] <twm1010> Where are you at?
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:32] <R4K> Maryland.
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:44] <R4K> I'll be working at zenoss HQ in Annapolis come Monday.
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:50] <R4K> I'm here just getting a feel for things...
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:00] <R4K> seeing what people are talking about -- trying to lend a hand when I can...
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:07] <R4K> basically learning WITH the customers.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:15] <twm1010> how many people work there? curious.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:17] <R4K> which is a good way to go with a product like this.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:23] <R4K> about 30 or so.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:29] <R4K> then we have people in Cary, NC.
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:12] <R4K> I'm coming on board with Client Services...
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:19] <R4K> so you'll get to know me...
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:32] <twm1010> It's exciting stuff, I try and participate in forums and help people out, when you're new to this stuff its kinda overwhelming on the brain
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:39] <R4K> either in a support, community, or proserv role.
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:45] <R4K> no dout.
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:51] <twm1010> i'm most a windows/netware guy, i know only the basics of linux
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:55] <R4K> btw, I'm still looking for the exact conary command.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:04] <R4K> ah ok -- I used to be 100% windows.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:12] <twm1010> yeah, its conary update --resolveall i seem to remember
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:19] <R4K> ditched it during the .net transition and converted to all osx/linux.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:24] <twm1010> but last time i tried this it completely hosed my VM, and i got no help fixing it, so i started over
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:40] <R4K> yeah -- definitely update your model.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:41] <twm1010> this time, i took a backup hehe
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:43] <R4K> or backup.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:45] <R4K> smart.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:51] <R4K> I did the same thing you did the first time.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:59] <R4K> cowboy computing.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:32] <twm1010> Well I want to keep our version on the edge until its considered "production" then I will only update when I need something.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:38] <R4K> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:38] <twm1010> or a major release
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:43] <R4K> that's the way to do it.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:51] <R4K> how node network work are you managing?
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:56] <twm1010> I'm sticking with the VM too, because I like it being in the environment that Zenoss built it in.
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:10] <twm1010> 100 servers, maybe 20 routers for an MPLS wan
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:15] <twm1010> not too big
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:18] <R4K> was it you asking about hierarchical event handling yesterday?
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:26] <R4K> not too shabby.
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:28] <R4K>
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:42] <twm1010> no, i think might have helped respond, the guy asked something about a MIB not assigning the right event state?
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:05] <R4K> I think so -- I'll dig back thru my transcripts...
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:21] <R4K> I found the section in the admin guide that discusses hierarchical events.
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:28] <R4K> I'll keep and eye out for him.
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:32] <twm1010> The google graph is cool, but with MPLS links instead of point to point circuits, it looks really goofy
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:42] <R4K> BTW, http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenpack-documentation/zenpack-faq/?searchterm=conary
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:51] <R4K> why's that?
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:54] <R4K> no links?
[10-Jan-2008 13:55:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack FAQ - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 13:55:07] <R4K> send me a screen shot -- I'd like to see that: rak@zenoss.com
[10-Jan-2008 13:55:21] <R4K> ah someone does have a bot on here...
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[10-Jan-2008 13:56:09] <twm1010> no, it draws links, but because it goes into a cloud and out, each site has a link to every other sidte
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:33] <rakATzenoss> definitely send me screencap -- we need this type of input.
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:41] <twm1010> so unless your sites happen to be in a circle-like placement around the country the "mesh" topology looks like a giant green glob
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:52] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:56] <rakATzenoss> interesting.
[10-Jan-2008 13:57:41] <rakATzenoss> conary update --resolve group-zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 13:57:58] <twm1010> for instnace my graph looks like an upside down isosceles (can't remember spelling) triangle, with jacksonville being the bottom
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:20] <twm1010> the three points up top, chicago, omaha, and oxford, canada, are nearly in a straight line
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:22] <rakATzenoss> and all points are connected.
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:38] <rakATzenoss> to illustrate the mesh?
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:45] <twm1010> right...
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:54] <twm1010> sometimes it has trouble drawing entirely, i really don't pay it too much attention
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:57] <rakATzenoss> would a smaller stroke fix the problem?
[10-Jan-2008 13:59:16] <twm1010> that is executed with zenoss running, correct?
[10-Jan-2008 13:59:44] <rakATzenoss> yes
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:03] <twm1010> it might, but i think some way of telling it that a network is really a cloud, and should have a center equidistant from all locations
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:34] <twm1010> that graph the MPLS cloud correctly.
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:37] <rakATzenoss> I see, so consolidate the mesh as a cloud.
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:48] <rakATzenoss> send me a screencap and I'll open a case.
[10-Jan-2008 14:01:00] <rakATzenoss> I can certainly see this coming up again.
[10-Jan-2008 14:01:17] <twm1010> MPLS is pretty huge... one sec, i assume its rak@zenoss.com ?
[10-Jan-2008 14:01:27] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 14:02:05] <twm1010> doh: The following troves are missing from the repository and cannot be installed: MySQL-python=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1//zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core/1.2.0-0.0.1-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe is: x86], wmi=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core/0.1.6-1-1[is: x86]
[10-Jan-2008 14:03:35] <twm1010> trying conary updateall --resolve
[10-Jan-2008 14:05:01] <twm1010> same thing... looks like the repository is missing some stuff
[10-Jan-2008 14:05:06] <twm1010> i'll post up about that on the forum
[10-Jan-2008 14:08:44] <twm1010> well, woudl you look at that, our distribution center is down on the WAN,that ain't good
[10-Jan-2008 14:08:45] <twm1010> brb
[10-Jan-2008 14:15:37] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[10-Jan-2008 14:15:38] <twm1010> ok, someone else's problem
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:01] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:28] <rakATzenoss> heh -- as long as you were the first to know!
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:38] <twm1010> well i don't have zenoss doing much notifications yet
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:43] <rakATzenoss> or at the least -- knew before anyone called.
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:47] <twm1010> i have this utter fear of it destroying my inbox
[10-Jan-2008 14:17:01] <rakATzenoss> zenoss alerts?
[10-Jan-2008 14:17:14] <twm1010> to answer your e-mail: yes, exactly
[10-Jan-2008 14:17:48] <rakATzenoss> yeah -- that's a good point. I'm not yet sure how multiple emails for the same/hierarchical events are handled, but it sounds like a good area for research.
[10-Jan-2008 14:18:30] <twm1010> oh im pretty sure they already fixed that, the problem is i get a lot of events
[10-Jan-2008 14:18:48] <twm1010> for instance my terminal servers bark all day long about little programs crashing here and there
[10-Jan-2008 14:18:49] <rakATzenoss> redirect > /dev/null
[10-Jan-2008 14:19:05] <twm1010> and those generate lots of events
[10-Jan-2008 14:19:48] <twm1010> Then again, I've yet to actually read the section of the manual on events, and how to handle them.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:02] <rakATzenoss> at some point I'll have to pick your brain on those term-servers.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:12] <rakATzenoss> I have a prospect that wants to monitor them.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:28] <twm1010> I used the WMI Zenpack and expanded on it, to monitor # connected users
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:42] <rakATzenoss> term server is running a POS system that is accessed from smart-terms.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:47] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:59] <rakATzenoss> so all that term-server info is indeed exposed via wmi?
[10-Jan-2008 14:21:09] <twm1010> If I was decent at python, I could get it to monitor any WMI perf counter. Eric Julson had to help me with the script
[10-Jan-2008 14:21:53] <twm1010> yes, but Zenoss core really doesn't support it directly, the zenpack runs a python script that runs wmic, which queries the windows box
[10-Jan-2008 14:22:06] <twm1010> where i fall short is understanding how these scripts parse the data and return it to a format that can be read
[10-Jan-2008 14:29:15] <twm1010> just shot you a screenshot of what I'm getting as far as performance
[10-Jan-2008 14:30:37] <twm1010> for reference: that is a 2003 server, dual quad cores, 8 gig of ram. our call center uses them
[10-Jan-2008 14:31:29] <rakATzenoss> cool -- thx for the cap.
[10-Jan-2008 14:55:51] <MuseHome> anyone know if you add each trapcommunity on new lines OR trapcommunity string1 string2 ect?
[10-Jan-2008 14:57:10] <Dorferiferon> i dunno about that muse. i had an snmp question as well.
[10-Jan-2008 14:57:44] <Dorferiferon> does anyone know how to set the type of data that an exec sends back?
[10-Jan-2008 14:58:47] <Dorferiferon> eg: exec VIP1_act_conns /etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1 returns a string and I need an integer for graphing in zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:22] <rakATzenoss> you looking for a status code?
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:34] <rakATzenoss> or a string value extracted from /etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1?
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:43] <Dorferiferon> that script sends back 67 or some other int, but it gets interpreted by zenoss as 9.8859176125e+06 or some other value
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:57] <rakATzenoss> interesting.
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:12] <Dorferiferon> snmp sends back a string type
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:20] <rakATzenoss> is VIP1_act_conns a shell script?
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:21] <Dorferiferon> i need it interpreted as an in
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:22] <Dorferiferon> integer
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:25] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:38] <Dorferiferon> not VIP_act_conns
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:45] <Dorferiferon> but ipvsstats
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:16] <rakATzenoss> ah so you want to pass the result of ipvstats_1 into the statement exec VIP1_act_conns
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:19] <rakATzenoss> so you'd have...
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:28] <rakATzenoss> exec VIP1_act_conns 67
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:29] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:49] <rakATzenoss> ah add backticks to /etc/snmp/ipvstats_1.
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:52] <rakATzenoss> so you'd have...
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:59] <Dorferiferon> i am sending a priv msg with the raw snmp results from walk
[10-Jan-2008 15:03:08] <rakATzenoss> exec VIP1_act_conns `/etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1`
[10-Jan-2008 15:03:12] <rakATzenoss> that should do it.
[10-Jan-2008 15:03:32] <MuseHome> where do you change the snmp trap community string? /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf? or is it in zenoss? I'm getting "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from"
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:02] <Dorferiferon> you see the STRING rather than INTEGER results?
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:08] <Dorferiferon> they come back properly already
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:18] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:37] <Dorferiferon> just not in the right format for zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:01] <Dorferiferon> we have lvs running and i want to graph num of connections
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:07] <rakATzenoss> so, is this command being run on the remote machine?
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:16] <rakATzenoss> or on the zenoss server?
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:18] <Dorferiferon> yes.
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:22] <rakATzenoss> on the remote right?
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:35] <Dorferiferon> the command is run on the remote box and snmp trnsfers the data
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:40] <Dorferiferon> yes remote
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:56] <rakATzenoss> ok, I just don't 'get' the command line here.
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:02] <Dorferiferon> zenoss sees sdtring and converts ot
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:07] <rakATzenoss> you're telling exec to run "VIP1_act_conns"
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:13] <Dorferiferon> no....
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:18] <rakATzenoss> with the param /etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:32] <Dorferiferon> the exact command i was running was:
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:04] <Dorferiferon> exec VIP2_act_conns /etc/snmp/ipvsstats 74.202.231.32
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:17] <Dorferiferon> and i have five ips that are in use.
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:34] <Dorferiferon> i tried just setting the script and making it only look for one ip
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:49] <Dorferiferon> VIP2_act_conns is the mib id
[10-Jan-2008 15:08:34] <rakATzenoss> forgive me -- but why the "exec" call?
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:05] <Dorferiferon> because snmpd needs that to "exec" the command to pass back the data/
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:19] <Dorferiferon> there is no mib/snmp data for lvs
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:27] <rakATzenoss> and your command is /etc/snmp/ipvsstats right?
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:31] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:41] <Dorferiferon> "/sbin/ipvsadm -l -n | grep $argv[1] | grep ':80' | awk '{ print $5 }' | sort -r "
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:43] <rakATzenoss> then wouldn't VIP2_act_conns be a param to it.
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:49] <rakATzenoss> ?
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:54] <Dorferiferon> taht is the script
[10-Jan-2008 15:10:15] <Dorferiferon> VIP2_act_conns is the MIB identifier
[10-Jan-2008 15:10:43] <rakATzenoss> right.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:29] <Dorferiferon> this is in the snmpd.conf and it returns the value correctly.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:41] <rakATzenoss> I just don't understand why you're passing it as an argument to exec.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:53] <rakATzenoss> your argument should be a executable command line.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:56] <Dorferiferon> *except* it is type string, not integer.
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:27] <Dorferiferon> i thought the exec command needed an id for the oid.
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:36] <rakATzenoss> I don't think so.
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:38] <Dorferiferon> and i thought i had to name it something
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:42] <Dorferiferon> i will try that then
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:47] <Dorferiferon> one sec
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:51] <rakATzenoss> let me know what happens. I'm as curious as you.
[10-Jan-2008 15:13:43] <MuseHome> where do you change the snmp trap community string? /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf? or is it in zenoss? I'm getting "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from"
[10-Jan-2008 15:13:57] <Dorferiferon> in zenoss under zProperties
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:04] <Dorferiferon> sorry muse
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:07] <rakATzenoss> both really.
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:10] <rakATzenoss> they ned to match.
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:13] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:18] <MuseHome> np. I can hold on.
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:29] <MuseHome> thanks.
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:01] <Dorferiferon> no joy
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:15] <twm1010> @rak: I figured out why my google layout looks the way it does
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:15] <adytum-bot> twm1010: Error: 'rak:' is not a valid command.
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:24] <Dorferiferon> it does not exec. i thought and am now convinced you need to set the id
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:36] <rakATzenoss> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:56] <rakATzenoss> why's hat twm1010?
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:58] <rakATzenoss> that.
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:59] <twm1010> its because each site in reality has its own subnet into the cloud, if those subnets could be organized under a virtual network, it would make sense
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:06] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:17] <Dorferiferon> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.5 = STRING: VIP5_act_conns
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:17] <Dorferiferon> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.6 = STRING: /etc/snmp/ipvsstats
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:25] <rakATzenoss> could you use a fake router device to consolidate?
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:43] <twm1010> possibly, I would think a frame relay network would actually draw the most accurate mesh on the map
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:44] <rakATzenoss> in other words -- create a router that doesn't really exists and that doesn't use snmp to discover properties.
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:52] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:10] <twm1010> I'll see what I can fool it into doing
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:50] <Dorferiferon> any other net-snmp wizzes here
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:51] <Dorferiferon> ?
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:56] <Dorferiferon> :O
[10-Jan-2008 15:18:17] <rakATzenoss> it looks like that strange number is zenoss' interpretation of the Oid -- which explains the insane exponent.
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:01] <Dorferiferon> it takes that 67 or some other value and makes it a string (i am thinking) and I dunno how it is converting it.
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:04] <MuseHome> Ok... stupid qustion may be? what zProperties is it? zSnmpCommunities, zSnmpCommunity
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:43] <Dorferiferon> zSnmpCommunity is the main one you are using, ties it allows you to put in multiples as a default
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:54] <twm1010> I suppose a virtual router, with an interface on each network, not being monitored, might work
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:57] <Dorferiferon> zSnmpCommunity for the individual device
[10-Jan-2008 15:20:20] <twm1010> i'll think it over, its a lot of work just to make a picture look pretty
[10-Jan-2008 15:20:32] <MuseHome> so for traps I use?
[10-Jan-2008 15:20:49] <Dorferiferon> muse: think so
[10-Jan-2008 15:21:17] <MuseHome> what one do I use for traps?
[10-Jan-2008 15:21:32] <Dorferiferon> zSnmpCommunity
[10-Jan-2008 15:21:46] <MuseHome> ok
[10-Jan-2008 15:23:14] <rakATzenoss> it's an old cliché twm1010, but a picture is worth a thousand words!
[10-Jan-2008 15:54:45] <bmunger> is there any way for zenoss to monitor /var/log/messages or /var/adm/messages for problems?
[10-Jan-2008 15:54:46] <twm1010> hehe
[10-Jan-2008 16:01:43] <MuseHome> can zenoss have more then one snmptrap string?
[10-Jan-2008 16:03:53] <twm1010> Muse: I'm not sure really.
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:08] <twm1010> Seems like it accepts almost any snmptrap string
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:19] <twm1010> I have some devices using one string, some using another, i get traps either way
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:48] <bmunger> does anyone monitor their unix system's messages file? why is it so hard to find a tool that will do it
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:50] <MuseHome> I'm getting "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from"
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:11] <twm1010> thats a legitimate message actually
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:13] <MuseHome> syslog-ng might help you....
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:26] <bmunger> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:28] <MuseHome> also you could just have a ssh cmd to do your checking.
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:39] <twm1010> the device generating that even is saying that something is attempting to hit it's snmp interface but has the wrong community
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:53] <bmunger> ok i will look into it
[10-Jan-2008 16:06:24] <twm1010> it's probably Zenoss itself trying to monitor the device and the community may be mis-configured on one end or the other
[10-Jan-2008 16:06:27] <MuseHome> twm1010: I can snmpwalk the device. but it seem all my traps will not work.
[10-Jan-2008 16:06:51] <MuseHome> no I'm getting CPU graps and other snmp polling data.
[10-Jan-2008 16:07:11] <MuseHome> the is a trap from the remove host.
[10-Jan-2008 16:07:46] <twm1010> A machine that is no longer part of Zenoss can still send Zenoss traps
[10-Jan-2008 16:08:23] <twm1010> For instance, there is a UPS in our Canadian datacenter that sends my Zenoss box that trap everytime the admin up there mistypes the community on a little tool he uses
[10-Jan-2008 16:09:40] <MuseHome> this is from the event : HQFSBAISINV01||/Security/Auth||3|snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from HQFSBAISINV01
[10-Jan-2008 16:10:14] <MuseHome> agent zentrap
[10-Jan-2008 16:10:31] <twm1010> okay, that means something is trying to snmpwalk or snmpget on HQFSBAISINV01, and is using the wrong community string
[10-Jan-2008 16:10:51] <MuseHome> community MyString
[10-Jan-2008 16:11:34] <MuseHome> not that HQFSBAISINV is tring to send a trap and zenoss is no letting it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:11:53] <twm1010> Zenoss IS letting it in.
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:22] <twm1010> Think of it this way, zentrap is a daemon process, it listens on port 162 and takes any incoming traps and turns them into events in Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:38] <twm1010> the actual generation of the trap is coming from the other end, the server you've configured SNMP on
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:45] <MuseHome> sure. ...
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:55] <twm1010> the server is trying to tell you that something is trying to query SNMP but has the wrong string
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:13] <twm1010> its doing so by "correctly" sending a trap to your Zenoss box to let you know
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:14] <MuseHome> but you can set up snmptrapd to only let things in that have a set community
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:24] <twm1010> sure, but i think by default, it accepts everything
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:41] <MuseHome> that is where I was getting lost. how can you tell.
[10-Jan-2008 16:14:02] <MuseHome> becase I can't tell one what or the other.
[10-Jan-2008 16:15:11] <twm1010> I'll try and figure that out. For the moment though, to stop your event you need to figure out what is trying to acces SNMP on that server HQFSBAISINV01 that is causing the trap
[10-Jan-2008 16:19:15] <twm1010> I never did find a way to tell what device was sending the wrong string through Zenoss, the only way i found out was because the device itself also generate an e-mail, saying which host was sending the wrong community
[10-Jan-2008 16:20:08] <MuseHome> I'm getting someone to check on the remote host. ..
[10-Jan-2008 16:20:50] <twm1010> I would think, most likely, that there is a typo in RO community string set no the security tab of the SNMP service for Windows
[10-Jan-2008 16:21:29] <twm1010> And that Zenoss's performane monitors are the ones sending the community that is being rejected
[10-Jan-2008 16:22:47] <MuseHome> but I can use the snmpwalk function in zenoss and get good databack. also I am getting CPU and network graphs. .. so it would have to be someone else on the network trying to poll the systems...
[10-Jan-2008 16:26:09] <twm1010> exactly.
[10-Jan-2008 16:26:49] <BrixWork> I have a device that sends in traps with identical oid's for a down and up event, the varbinds have a status down and status up, how do I map them as different events so one can clear the other.
[10-Jan-2008 16:27:00] <twm1010> Still, I would like to get an answer on whether or not you can configure zentrap to only process traps with certain community strings
[10-Jan-2008 16:28:03] <MuseHome> I was looking at zentrap genconf... but I didn't get what I was looking for out of it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:30:14] <twm1010> perhaps it works off the community strings set at /Devices ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:30:55] <twm1010> or maybe it accepts all community strings used throughout Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:31:17] <cluther> There isn't a configuration knob for accepted community strings. It just accepts everything.
[10-Jan-2008 16:31:20] <MuseHome> I'm also checking in to that. have someone looking in to what the trap setting on the systems are. they may be different then the snmpget community.... I don't know yet.
[10-Jan-2008 16:32:48] <BrixWork> I don't think many snmp consoles actually use the snmp community string on traps, I think it was one of those it's in the specs, but not really implemented things.
[10-Jan-2008 16:33:32] <cluther> Right.. if you really needed to do this you could stick a bit of code into the doHandleRequest method in $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/zentrap.py
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:07] <cluther> if getattr(event, 'community', None) != 'myCoolString': return
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:11] <Dorferiferon> cluther: do you know much about the setup of custom commands in snmpd?
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:15] <cluther> Right before the sendEvent line.
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:23] <MuseHome> cluther: I'm trying to see if an event I'm getting is from zentraps or is it a real trap from sone hitting a system with the worng snmp community string...
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:35] <cluther> MuseHome: auth trap?
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:44] <MuseHome> yep
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:52] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Depends what much is, but probably.
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:56] <cluther> MuseHome: It is the latter.
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:56] <MuseHome> snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from
[10-Jan-2008 16:35:07] <cluther> MuseHome: zentrap won't make that kind of thing up.
[10-Jan-2008 16:35:38] <Dorferiferon> cluther: can you tell me how to set the return data type in the OID?
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:06] <cluther> Dorferiferon: You can't if you're using the exec style of extension. If you need control over that you have to use pass or pass_persist.
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:29] <cluther> Dorferiferon: However, the most recent version of Zenoss properly handles numeric data returned as a string type.
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:34] <twm1010> cluther: good answer, I'm going to paste it onto the message board since i posted it there
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:46] <Dorferiferon> i am using
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:55] <twm1010> I would think this would be something best added to the zentrap config file
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:04] <Dorferiferon> 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:15] <twm1010> looks like net-snmp's snmptrapd supports this
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:39] <twm1010> It would also be good if zentrap automatically only accept traps from hosts configured in Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:45] <twm1010> or at least a switch to do so
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:51] <Dorferiferon> cluther: the data is munged when it gets returned
[10-Jan-2008 16:38:01] <Dorferiferon> cluther: on 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 16:38:22] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Grab 2.1.2.. the changeset that fixes the thresholding of these values (r7702) is in that release.
[10-Jan-2008 16:38:58] <Dorferiferon> cluther: thanks!!!
[10-Jan-2008 16:39:22] <cluther> twm1010: We actually have a lot of people that setup an event command to automatically add devices into zenoss when they send a trap and aren't already added.
[10-Jan-2008 16:39:29] <cluther> twm1010: Pretty cool way to do discovery.
[10-Jan-2008 16:40:28] <cluther> twm1010: I agree about some kind of option that allows you to specify allowable SNMP community strings though.
[10-Jan-2008 16:41:41] <Gabriel25> hi guys
[10-Jan-2008 16:42:56] <Gabriel25> I have a problem. I installed zenoss and when I go to the GUI I click on the Devices, but I do not have the small button for the sub menu in the left side next to Classes
[10-Jan-2008 16:43:31] <Dorferiferon> cluther: are there updataed deps?
[10-Jan-2008 16:43:40] <Gabriel25> with More, Edit, Manage etc
[10-Jan-2008 16:43:40] <Dorferiferon> cluther: for 2.1.2
[10-Jan-2008 16:44:06] <twm1010> cluter: well, i just posted the request to zenoss-dev, maybe it will be considered.
[10-Jan-2008 16:44:26] <cluther> twm1010: Cool.. I just created a ticket for it and referenced it on your first topic.
[10-Jan-2008 16:44:32] <cluther> Dorferiferon: No.
[10-Jan-2008 16:45:09] <cluther> Gabriel25: Try running zenmigrate as the zenoss user.
[10-Jan-2008 16:45:19] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 16:45:58] <Gabriel25> INFO:zen.migrate:Migration successful
[10-Jan-2008 16:46:05] <Gabriel25> now I have to restart ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:08] <twm1010> well, while I've got your attention, i tried to update my appliance this morning, throws a little fit: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4599
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Appliance Update Fails (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:32] <Gabriel25> cluther: the same I still don`t have that
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:33] <Gabriel25>(
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:46] <cluther> Gabriel25: ok.. one sec.
[10-Jan-2008 16:48:01] <Gabriel25> you know what I am talking about no ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:48:16] <cluther> Gabriel25: I think so.. try "zenmigrate --step=MenuRelations"
[10-Jan-2008 16:48:51] <Gabriel25> INFO:zen.migrate:Migration successful
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:02] <Gabriel25> do I have to restart zenosss service ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:13] <cluther> Gabriel25: nope
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:17] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:30] <Gabriel25> now works
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:33] <Gabriel25> thank you
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:36] <Gabriel25> so so much !
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:41] <twm1010> gabe: this is because the zenoss database has to be running
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:46] <twm1010> confused me at first too
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:09] <Gabriel25> ohh well I follow the howto :_
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:10] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:17] <Gabriel25> i start the mysql
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:19] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:23] <Gabriel25> i install zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:36] <Gabriel25> I have to save this fix)
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:50] <twm1010> well mysql is just for the events, the zenoss configuration is in another database
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:00] <twm1010> zope i believe they call it
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:27] <twm1010> make sense now?
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:34] <Gabriel25> yes
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:51] <Gabriel25> how I install mib-s on it ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:52:03] <cluther> twm1010: That rpath thing is a bit odd.. I have no immediate answer for it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:52:40] <twm1010> thats okay. it won't kill me to wait.
[10-Jan-2008 16:53:24] <Dorferiferon> what are the FutureWarning errors I get about pynetsnmp? are they important?
[10-Jan-2008 16:54:10] <twm1010> Now I need to see how to setup these "event commands" you speak of
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:07] <cluther> Dorferiferon: They happen when using Python 2.3.. not important.
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:26] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Future versions of Zenoss will actually come bundled with Python 2.4 so you won't see them anymore.
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:40] <Dorferiferon> cluther: should i upgrade to 2,4?
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:57] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Upgrading your system python is dangerous business.. I'd recommend against it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:02] <Dorferiferon> k
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:08] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Are you using RHEL4 or CentOS 4?
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:19] <Dorferiferon> centos
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:20] <twm1010> Didn't they packet python2.4 inside the 2.1.7 release?
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:21] <twm1010> err, package
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:22] <cluther> That should be fine.
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:22] <Dorferiferon> 4.5
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:29] <cluther> twm1010: Yeah, but that is an alpha release.
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:36] <twm1010> ahh... gotcha
[10-Jan-2008 16:58:16] <Dorferiferon> my cpu graph for the device i am having issues with disappeared. how cna i just blow the device away and remodel it?
[10-Jan-2008 16:59:16] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Do you still have the graph navigation tools surrounding it, or are there just no graphs at all on the Perf tab?
[10-Jan-2008 16:59:54] <Dorferiferon> cluther: the nav tools surrounding it are there. the graph went away
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:16] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Did you rename the device?
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:16] <Dorferiferon> and the readings are still anomalous for the data i had issues with
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:20] <Dorferiferon> no
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:35] <grogan> hmm interesting
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:56] <Gabriel25> cluther: sorry to batter you, I add a device and I get only the UP status I don`t get CPU info or any other statuses, the snmpd.conf looks good
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:58] <grogan> changed the perf server to localhost, and suddenly the graphing fires upp
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:24] <grogan> but now I get port down notifications on the mysql 3309 monitoring.
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:26] <grogan> feh
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:35] <grogan> memcache too.
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:37] <grogan> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 17:02:02] <Dorferiferon> grogan: have you had memcached die unexpectedly much?
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:15] <Gabriel25> another think, under the class I have only servers and servers/linux
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:40] <grogan> nope.
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:44] <Dorferiferon> k
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:49] <grogan> it's all just trying to get this thing to work
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:52] <grogan> re: zenoss. heh.
[10-Jan-2008 17:05:23] <grogan> I'm at a new gig, and apparently they've had some memcache stalls in the past.
[10-Jan-2008 17:06:08] <grogan> port's listening, but not doing much more than that.
[10-Jan-2008 17:06:48] <Dorferiferon> i have had it die unexpectedly recently and by design there is no logging... lol
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:14] <grogan> yeah. heh
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:19] <grogan> you can get some stats
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:50] <Dorferiferon> yeah, but does not say "hey. i am dying here..."
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:57] <Dorferiferon> makes it hard to ts
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:02] <grogan> yup
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:05] <grogan> actually.
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:12] <grogan> you can check 'stats' from memcache.
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:28] <grogan> and it'll spit out some relevant stuff.
[10-Jan-2008 17:09:54] <grogan> telnet to the 11211 port, and type in stats.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:09] <Dorferiferon> currently i just check that 11211 answers and if not restart it.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:24] <grogan> hmmm nod.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:28] <Dorferiferon> the stats are not really relative for me. i do not develop, just manage
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:30] <grogan> just croned.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:33] <Dorferiferon> *just*
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:35] <Dorferiferon> lol
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:45] <grogan> heh
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:45] <grogan> yeah
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:57] <grogan> problem is that sometimes it'll open and just sit there and do nothing.
[10-Jan-2008 17:12:02] <Dorferiferon> not observed that b4
[10-Jan-2008 17:19:03] <grogan> yeah, neither have I, but apparently that's popped up before over here heh
[10-Jan-2008 17:22:16] <twm1010> cluther: is the enterprise version very different?
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[10-Jan-2008 17:33:09] <twm1010> whoa, perfmon zenpack, w00t
[10-Jan-2008 17:33:15] <twm1010> i shall try this on my exchange server :-D
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[10-Jan-2008 17:57:09] <Gabriel25> How I add mibs in zenoss ?
[10-Jan-2008 17:57:45] <Gabriel25> and also ... i add a linux server and I get only it`s ip but I don`t get routing table or ip address or cpu info anything
[10-Jan-2008 17:57:46] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 17:57:51] <Gabriel25> any idea ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:01:17] <Gabriel25> I got it
[10-Jan-2008 18:05:36] <twm1010> perfmon zenpack = sweet
[10-Jan-2008 18:08:00] <twm1010> am i ever gonna exploit the crap outta this
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[10-Jan-2008 18:15:58] <Gabriel25> twm1010: what is zenpack ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:16:08] <Gabriel25> is that rpm that they have it ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:16:12] <johns55> twm: is that new?
[10-Jan-2008 18:16:44] <Gabriel25> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.2-0.el5.i386.rpm this one ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:21:26] <johns55> ZenPerfMonCollector?
[10-Jan-2008 18:21:31] <johns55> that is an enterprise zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:27:30] <twm1010> No, its something else
[10-Jan-2008 18:27:34] <twm1010> its just called PerfMon
[10-Jan-2008 18:27:57] <johns55> where did u get this?
[10-Jan-2008 18:28:19] <twm1010> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/perfmon
[10-Jan-2008 18:28:31] <twm1010> its pretty straight forward
[10-Jan-2008 18:28:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - Perfmon - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 18:29:25] <twm1010> the WMI zenpack queries WMI directly over the network, this uses remote execution to query perfmon, so there is only one python script, instead of one for each bloody thing you want to check
[10-Jan-2008 18:29:46] <twm1010> I'm going to redo the templates a bit and expand the crap out of this :-D
[10-Jan-2008 18:31:08] <johns55> so this will not work if im modeling using snmp for windows?
[10-Jan-2008 18:31:10] <johns55> i need to use wmi?
[10-Jan-2008 18:31:36] <twm1010> it uses WMI but it queries it from the remote host, like SSH queries linux
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:00] <johns55> ahh ok
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:02] <twm1010> make sense? the actual query is executed on the remote computer
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:05] <johns55> im using snmp and its not bad
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:16] <johns55> i guess if u have windows server 2007, u would need it
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:25] <twm1010> but... it will need the username password of a user with privileges to query the counters
[10-Jan-2008 18:34:05] <twm1010> I suppose SNMP can bring back most of the same info, seemed like you needed the informant to get it though, and that only provides you basics
[10-Jan-2008 18:34:12] <twm1010> with this you could query any counter you wanted
[10-Jan-2008 18:34:27] <twm1010> quite easily
[10-Jan-2008 18:35:52] <Gabriel25> twm1010: how you install that ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:36:15] <twm1010> download the zip file to your desktop
[10-Jan-2008 18:36:24] <twm1010> in zenoss go to settings
[10-Jan-2008 18:36:39] <twm1010> zenpacks tab, click the contextual menu, and hit install zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:37:23] <twm1010> then make sure a user with correct credentials is set in the zProperties of /Devices/Servers/Windows, you may have this done already
[10-Jan-2008 18:37:39] <twm1010> Then go to /Devices/Servers/Windows, go to the templates tab
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:06] <twm1010> click the context menu, choose bind templates, and ctrl click on the template that it added called Perfmon
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:07] <Gabriel25> I don`t have Devices/Servers/Windows
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:09] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:18] <Gabriel25> I have only servers and server linux
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:50] <twm1010> Well the device class ought to be there, if you click on devices on the left side, what comes up?
[10-Jan-2008 18:39:34] <Gabriel25> only server
[10-Jan-2008 18:39:50] <Gabriel25> and under subs I get 1
[10-Jan-2008 18:39:59] <Gabriel25> and I have linux
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:05] <twm1010> really... that is odd
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:13] <twm1010> there should be a whole bunch of them by default
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:46] <Gabriel25> I don`t have that
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:50] <Gabriel25> how i installed ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:01] <twm1010> i don't know, they should all be there already
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:29] <twm1010> try your URL http://PUTYOUZENOSSSERVERHERE:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/deviceOrganizerStatus
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:44] <twm1010> make sure we're looking at the same thing
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:54] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:09] <johns55> hey rak
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:24] <rakATzenoss> yo what's up?
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:30] <johns55> rak: I followed all the tips and still getting rdd missing, you have any other ideas?
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:38] <Gabriel25> yes there is where I was
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:40] <twm1010> almost sounds like you're looking at the device list instead of the device classes, i never had to define the basics, windows, linux, a whole bunch were there from the get go
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:54] <twm1010> Maybe its because I'm using the virtual appliance
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:12] <Gabriel25> I am on the device classes
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:14] <twm1010> You would want to create one for Windows then
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:21] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:21] <rakATzenoss> you searched thru the forums right?
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:24] <rakATzenoss> nothing there?
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:28] <twm1010> thats VERY odd that it wasn't there to begin with
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:38] <twm1010> i think even my CentOS build had one
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:48] <rakATzenoss> I agree -- someone must've run into this issue before.
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:58] <Gabriel25> I just create Windows
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:34] <twm1010> rak or cluther: the device class for Windows should be there automatically right?
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:44] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:54] <Gabriel25> I don`t have it
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:55] <rakATzenoss> ootb? yes.
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:02] <Gabriel25> I just created
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:09] <Gabriel25> now let me do that "))
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:12] <twm1010> That is so weird, you'd have to setup quite a bit of stuff then
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:22] <rakATzenoss> no /servers/windows?
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:24] <twm1010> collector setup, some zProperties
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:05] <Gabriel25> Now I go to settings
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:12] <Gabriel25> I click on ZenPacks
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:30] <Gabriel25> and then I click on that small icon
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:43] <Gabriel25> and I have only create a zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:51] <Gabriel25> or delete a zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:55] <Gabriel25> I don`t have install
[10-Jan-2008 18:52:37] <twm1010> wait a sec, what version of Zenoss are you on?
[10-Jan-2008 18:52:57] <Gabriel25> 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:16] <Gabriel25> sorry Zenoss 2.1.2
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:23] <twm1010> im on 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:41] <twm1010> i have create a zenpack and install a zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:52] <Gabriel25> how you do that ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:11] <Gabriel25> I just install the RPM
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:20] <johns55> i dont get what the apachezenpack does, i installed it, it automatically got added to the server's template, and i remodeled but dont see a difference
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:23] <twm1010> hrmmm... sounds like stuff is missing
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:32] <Gabriel25> I can see that
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:40] <Gabriel25> I can erase and install again
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:49] <twm1010> You got a VMWare player or server?
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:04] <Gabriel25> I don`t use vmware
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:15] <Gabriel25> I installed to a linus server
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:23] <Gabriel25> linux server with centos 5.0
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:31] <twm1010> gotcha
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:47] <Gabriel25> I have one with vmware
[10-Jan-2008 18:56:01] <Gabriel25> and I have all good on that
[10-Jan-2008 18:58:37] <twm1010> might be good to reinstall then, it almost sounds like its a half-upgraded version of sorts?
[10-Jan-2008 18:58:44] <twm1010> I know the zenpack gui install is a new feature
[10-Jan-2008 18:58:50] <twm1010> but missing the default device classes ain't right
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:02] <Gabriel25> Is missing a lot
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:13] <Gabriel25> is missing the install pack
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:21] <grogan> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:27] <Gabriel25> I have the same version on vmware and there I have install
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:34] <grogan> is there a package to load for the hw manufacturers?
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:44] <grogan> I have everything defaulting to unknown.
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:13] <twm1010> grogan, i think thats what the dell and hp zenpacks provide
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:20] <twm1010> but i don't seem to be getting much
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:23] <grogan> hmmm
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:25] <twm1010> some HP servers are working
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:28] <grogan> netgear/cisco/etc.
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:28] <grogan> heh
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:41] <twm1010> cisco is built-in
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:47] <twm1010> netgear probably not
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:53] <grogan> hmmm apparently not. re: cisco
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:59] <grogan> it picked up the 3560 I have as unknown
[10-Jan-2008 19:01:25] <grogan> not sure if I need to load up some xml file somewhere/somehow.
[10-Jan-2008 19:01:46] <twm1010> mine didn't model a CPU at all
[10-Jan-2008 19:01:58] <grogan> hmmm yeah. I forget what I had to do
[10-Jan-2008 19:02:19] <grogan> but by default, it didn't pick up anything in the /Devices tree either.
[10-Jan-2008 19:02:29] <grogan> until I manually loaded some file (forget which one)
[10-Jan-2008 19:03:38] <twm1010> Yours did the same thing as Gabriel?
[10-Jan-2008 19:07:43] <Gabriel25> what
[10-Jan-2008 19:07:47] <Gabriel25> I wan`t here
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:19] <Gabriel25> I wasn`t here
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:20] <twm1010> i'm asking grogan if his zenoss install was missing the same things yours was
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:30] <Gabriel25> Ohh I see
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:40] <Gabriel25> he said he load some files manual
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:56] <Gabriel25> and he dosen`t remember witch one(
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:22] <Gabriel25> [root@localhost ~]# /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:22] <Gabriel25> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler: line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:22] <Gabriel25> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler: line 21: generic: command not found
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:28] <Gabriel25> hmmm
[10-Jan-2008 19:12:14] <twm1010> where are the RRD files stored?
[10-Jan-2008 19:12:26] <Gabriel25> I have no idea
[10-Jan-2008 19:12:27] <Gabriel25>)
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:21] <cluther> $ZENHOME/perf/Devices
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:37] <cluther> Gabriel25: You need to run zenoss commands as the zenoss user.. su - first
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:45] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:58] <cluther> This sets the environment up properly and makes sure that no files get created with bad permissions.
[10-Jan-2008 19:14:52] <Gabriel25> now works as zenoss user
[10-Jan-2008 19:15:14] <Gabriel25> I have no idea how to add the windows and all the stuff under devices
[10-Jan-2008 19:23:05] <grogan> there was a bunch of xml stuff.
[10-Jan-2008 19:23:53] <twm1010> very weird, 3/4 wmi based performance graphs refuse to draw for just this one server
[10-Jan-2008 19:25:34] <twm1010> i don't see the RRD files being generated for those datapoints either
[10-Jan-2008 19:25:36] <twm1010> weird
[10-Jan-2008 19:26:27] <twm1010> very odd, working fine on every other windows machine using that template
[10-Jan-2008 19:28:37] <MoreDakka> omg hackers are teh suck
[10-Jan-2008 19:31:45] <twm1010> okay, i removed the device, removed /perf/Devices/devicename, but when i remodel it, i still don't get those 3 graphs
[10-Jan-2008 19:31:50] <rakATzenoss> quick unplug your modem! teh hax0rs are going after rrd files!
[10-Jan-2008 19:32:09] <rakATzenoss> only on this ONE device?
[10-Jan-2008 19:32:38] <twm1010> yepper
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:00] <rakATzenoss> I'm going to bet something is not making its way back from the device to zenoss...
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:03] <twm1010> im thinking maybe a hung wmic process
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:19] <twm1010> well thats the odd part, there are four WMI based graphs, 1 of them works :O
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:32] <rakATzenoss> which one?
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:54] <twm1010> disk queue consistently. im thinking that WMIC hung, im cycling the server now, then will re-add and see what happens
[10-Jan-2008 19:34:57] <twm1010> I mean, I'm about to change to a different template anyway, but still, very odd.
[10-Jan-2008 19:38:49] <rakATzenoss> keep us posted.
[10-Jan-2008 19:42:55] <johns55> has anyone used dnsmonitor? I installed it but not sure what features it includes
[10-Jan-2008 19:43:36] <cluther> johns55: It gives you a new data source type that you can add to templates called DnsMonitor. You fill in the name to lookup, the server to look it up using and the expected result.
[10-Jan-2008 19:43:59] <cluther> johns55: It'll generate an event if the lookup fails or returns an unexpected answer.
[10-Jan-2008 19:44:45] <johns55> cluther: how would i add this to a template? when I click bind template under /Devices/Server , I dont see any dns entries
[10-Jan-2008 19:46:02] <Gabriel25> i still don`t have anything under devices except servers and linux
[10-Jan-2008 19:46:10] <Gabriel25> that`s all i have
[10-Jan-2008 19:47:21] <cluther> johns55: You can create your own templates and add data sources to them. DnsMonitor is a type of data source, not a template.
[10-Jan-2008 19:47:46] <twm1010> nope, same damn thing
[10-Jan-2008 19:47:51] <Gabriel25> if I go to settings and i click on the ZenPacks I don`t have the install packs I have only Create a ZenPack and delete zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 19:48:16] <johns55> cluther: ah i c now, i will give it a shot, thx
[10-Jan-2008 19:48:57] <grogan> same here.
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:00] <grogan> I have no zenpacks
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:02] <grogan> none of them will install
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:22] <twm1010> my brain is a bit tired to troubleshoot this one
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:34] <grogan> I get a bunch of error messages, but then when I go into zope, I see some of the zenpack component names in place.
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:58] <grogan> my guess, something partially worked, but screwed up and left remnants everywhere.
[10-Jan-2008 19:50:54] <Gabriel25> where is zope ?
[10-Jan-2008 19:51:54] <grogan> I forget the path.
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:05] <Gabriel25>)
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:12] <grogan> I found it digging through the mix of forums.
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:16] <grogan> lemme see if I can find it
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:20] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:53] <grogan> hold on. google desktop archives history.
[10-Jan-2008 19:54:23] <twm1010> GRR... this is frustrating
[10-Jan-2008 19:55:14] <twm1010> perhaps my backup from this morning will work, i'd simply have to reinstall the zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 20:04:03] <zaf> anyone know if it's possible to have a user limited to only seeing devices that belong to a certain group?
[10-Jan-2008 20:09:42] <bnafziger> zaf: enterprise version
[10-Jan-2008 20:11:00] <zaf> doh
[10-Jan-2008 20:11:10] <twm1010> Really odd, that it won't at least draw the graph, and tell me the RRD file is missing
[10-Jan-2008 20:11:15] <twm1010> in this case, the graph doesn't come up at all
[10-Jan-2008 20:12:39] <twm1010> when there are both local templates and bound as well as inherited templates, how does Zenoss choose which order to display the graphs?
[10-Jan-2008 20:13:10] <bnafziger> zaf: or restrict urls via apache which i have not done
[10-Jan-2008 20:14:46] <zaf> bnafziger, thanks
[10-Jan-2008 20:17:14] <twm1010> I'm creative sub-classes in Windows for Exchange and Terminal Servers... now do I want to store my templates in those sub-classes orkeep them under Windows?
[10-Jan-2008 20:17:32] <twm1010> and simply bind them in the subclasses
[10-Jan-2008 20:20:41] <twm1010> i suppose if I will store them in /Windows, that way if i need to get specific for a particular server, i just create a local copy
[10-Jan-2008 20:29:57] <grogan> twm1010: did you try deleting the RenderServer.pyc file?
[10-Jan-2008 20:30:16] <grogan> I know that worked for me in some cases
[10-Jan-2008 20:30:32] <grogan> fixed the rest by changing the perfmon server.
[10-Jan-2008 20:39:48] <twm1010> one sec
[10-Jan-2008 20:41:37] <twm1010> renamed it, lets see what happens
[10-Jan-2008 20:41:55] <twm1010> i suppose thats a cache file?
[10-Jan-2008 20:45:04] <twm1010> still nothing
[10-Jan-2008 20:45:14] <twm1010> but i suppose i have to wait 5 minutes for it to run the template
[10-Jan-2008 20:46:49] <twm1010> Perhaps I should remove all the .pyc files in that directory?
[10-Jan-2008 20:50:08] <twm1010> well, lets see if i blew it up
[10-Jan-2008 20:51:52] <grogan> oh. you also have to stop the process before /restart it after.
[10-Jan-2008 20:51:59] <twm1010> right.. been doing that
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:02] <twm1010> got me nowhere
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:05] <grogan> yeah. ugh
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:13] <twm1010> it regenerated all those files, but still won't even draw the graph
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:14] <grogan> same issues I was having last week
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:16] <grogan> yeah
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:25] <grogan> what're you setting as the perfmon server?
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:52] <twm1010> nothing?
[10-Jan-2008 20:53:00] <twm1010> localhost ?
[10-Jan-2008 20:54:47] <grogan> ok
[10-Jan-2008 20:54:48] <grogan> yeah
[10-Jan-2008 20:54:54] <grogan> localhost should be it
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:15] <grogan> I had it set to the ip address of the localhost machine, but that bugged it out
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:24] <grogan> i.e. graphs under perf were all screwed.
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:26] <twm1010> well, 1 out of the 4 graphs is working
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:32] <grogan> rrd files not generating. etc.
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:34] <twm1010> and the CPU one from SNMP works fine
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:39] <twm1010> all other devices are fine
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:42] <grogan> wacky
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:26] <grogan> hmmm
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:26] <twm1010> hehe, wait a second..
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:35] <grogan> have you figured out what add service versus add ip service is?
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:37] <twm1010> i just renamed the device... now its doing something
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:41] <grogan> oh. wacky
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:44] <grogan> nuts.
[10-Jan-2008 20:58:32] <twm1010> argh, the problem followed it
[10-Jan-2008 20:58:37] <grogan> yikes
[10-Jan-2008 20:59:57] <twm1010> clearly something isn't happening, or its assuming something has already beend one
[10-Jan-2008 21:00:40] <rakATzenoss> that was it? you renamed the device?
[10-Jan-2008 21:02:15] <twm1010> no, that didn't work
[10-Jan-2008 21:02:30] <twm1010> renaming it created a new set of performance data, and a new folder under ZENHOME/Perf/Devices
[10-Jan-2008 21:02:40] <twm1010> but it did not generate graphs for the missing WMI datapoints
[10-Jan-2008 21:05:18] <twm10101> grr
[10-Jan-2008 21:06:20] <twm10101> I'm gonna try the backup, and see what happens
[10-Jan-2008 21:16:13] <twm10101> ah ha... its doing the same thing
[10-Jan-2008 21:19:13] <twm10101> trying one more 2003 server...
[10-Jan-2008 21:20:59] <twm10101> worked fine
[10-Jan-2008 21:21:07] <twm10101> there has to be a way to manually regenerate the graphs
[10-Jan-2008 21:22:40] * _keturn wonders if the Zenoss team is distorting the meaning of the term "sprint."
[10-Jan-2008 21:25:07] <twm10101> how so
[10-Jan-2008 21:31:28] <twm10101> I'm going to let it run overnight, perhaps some overnight process or daemon will clean this up/fix this
[10-Jan-2008 22:26:55] <Gabriel25> WARNING zen.ZenModelerclient Telco_4560G timeout
[10-Jan-2008 22:26:58] <Gabriel25>(
[10-Jan-2008 22:27:12] <Gabriel25> this is a cisco device
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[10-Jan-2008 23:06:50] <johns55> anyone tried 2.1.7 yet?
[10-Jan-2008 23:06:54] <johns55> hows it look?
[10-Jan-2008 23:07:32] <MoreDakka> Didn't know there was a version past 2.1.2 :-/
[10-Jan-2008 23:08:07] <johns55> MoreDakka: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4564
[10-Jan-2008 23:08:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss Core 2.1.70 (2.2 First Sprint Cycle) Now Available (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 23:11:37] <MoreDakka> OOoo...a watchdog...yay!
[10-Jan-2008 23:11:51] <MoreDakka> What service watches the watchdog though?
[10-Jan-2008 23:12:00] <MoreDakka> Thanks for the linky John55
[10-Jan-2008 23:12:47] <grogan> heh
[10-Jan-2008 23:12:49] <grogan> how stable is that?
[10-Jan-2008 23:14:56] <MoreDakka> Anyone know why linux (FC4) would lock at "Starting Firewall"? I can restart iptables no problem from single user mode but when I reboot it hangs at Starting Firewall.
[10-Jan-2008 23:17:32] <BrixWork> how can I troubleshoot wmi errors with zenoss, I have like 4 servers that I get connection refused but I can access wmi from a remote windows system using the same username and password that I have in zProperties.
[10-Jan-2008 23:23:45] <johns55> MoreDakka: disable firewall
[10-Jan-2008 23:25:20] <MoreDakka> Yeah but the firewall needs to be enabled... :-/ Can I disable the firewall during boot and enable it again with rc.local?
[10-Jan-2008 23:25:33] <MoreDakka> (I know this is the wrong channel, thanks john55)
[10-Jan-2008 23:26:40] <johns55> id try it
[10-Jan-2008 23:31:58] <MoreDakka> that seems to be working better. Home time though, test it more tomorrow. Thanks john55 ;-)
[10-Jan-2008 23:32:00] <MoreDakka> seya
[10-Jan-2008 23:35:51] <johns55> lucky bastard
[10-Jan-2008 23:35:59] <johns55> its 3:36PM!
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[11-Jan-2008 12:06:47] <wulfen> Any way to troubleshoot zenoss using several minutes to display the network page, and related info. Mysql does use 100% cpu until the page displays. (the server is a dual xeon with 6x73gb sas disk in raid10 and 4gb ram without any other installed services)
[11-Jan-2008 12:54:51] <twm10101> Morning
[11-Jan-2008 12:55:32] <twm10101> wulfen: clearly a query is taking forever, i know nothing about MySQL maintenance, but i know that only events are held in the MySQL DB
[11-Jan-2008 12:55:48] <twm10101> the network page coming up slow, shouldn't really be affected by that DB
[11-Jan-2008 12:55:59] <twm10101> all the information it pulls is from zope, i believe
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[11-Jan-2008 13:03:40] <wulfen> twm1010 : I just recreated the database, and it's behaving more or less responsive now. Just have to let it run for a little while to see if it bogs down again. Not too sure if I should let zenoss grab the syslogs, it does seem to be one of the zenoss processes that does take alot of memory / cpu
[11-Jan-2008 14:09:28] <twm1010> wulf: sounds good, something was clearly up. very odd though that clicking on networks would start the issue
[11-Jan-2008 14:09:36] <twm1010> since that really shouldn't generate any mysql activity
[11-Jan-2008 14:37:09] <twm1010> OK, so I'm going to be monitoring SMTP queues as kind of a "watchdog" for exchange
[11-Jan-2008 14:37:37] <twm1010> the perfomance counters return the number of messages in the queue
[11-Jan-2008 14:37:57] <twm1010> what i want, is a warning, when the queue has continual growth over a period of time, say 10 minutes
[11-Jan-2008 14:38:33] <twm1010> Not sure how to go about doing so.
[11-Jan-2008 14:42:33] <twm1010> Could I choose a datasource type of "derive" and set my threshold at >0 ?
[11-Jan-2008 15:18:54] <twm1010> IF you delete an RRD file, will Zenoss recreate next time it is collected?
[11-Jan-2008 15:19:05] <MoreDakka> it "should"
[11-Jan-2008 15:19:53] <MoreDakka> just like cacti and all other rrdtool using programs it should recreate it. Just move it and see what happens.
[11-Jan-2008 15:20:12] <MoreDakka> Is there a way to force Zenoss to see that a new service has been enabled? (IMap4)?
[11-Jan-2008 15:20:23] <MoreDakka> on a specific device.
[11-Jan-2008 15:25:28] <twm1010> remodel the device
[11-Jan-2008 15:25:30] <twm1010>
[11-Jan-2008 15:25:44] <MoreDakka> that's what I'm trying but it's not finding the service :-/
[11-Jan-2008 15:26:02] <twm1010> add the portscan collector to that device class
[11-Jan-2008 15:26:05] <twm1010> then remodel?
[11-Jan-2008 15:26:17] <twm1010> it should find IMAP running then
[11-Jan-2008 15:29:06] <MoreDakka> ehh...how can I add/what is the portscan collector?
[11-Jan-2008 15:30:50] <MoreDakka> nvm, found it in v2.1.1 Damnit I wish I could just swap my 1.1.1 machine for my 2.1.1 machine :-/
[11-Jan-2008 15:41:37] <twm1010> ehehe
[11-Jan-2008 15:41:40] <twm1010> did that work?
[11-Jan-2008 16:09:45] <ke4qqq> klinstifen, have time for a question?
[11-Jan-2008 16:09:58] <klinstifen> hey ke4qq, what's new?
[11-Jan-2008 16:09:59] <klinstifen> sure
[11-Jan-2008 16:10:14] <ke4qqq> you posted something in the forum about changing graphs to showing $value per minute or per hour
[11-Jan-2008 16:10:23] <ke4qqq> and the custom code that went along with it
[11-Jan-2008 16:10:36] <ke4qqq> however,what I don't know is where you put htat code
[11-Jan-2008 16:11:44] <MoreDakka> twm1010: It'll probably work in 2.1.1 but v1.1.1 doesn't have that option.
[11-Jan-2008 16:12:00] <klinstifen> go to your graph definition and click on the middle tab, Graph Custom Definition
[11-Jan-2008 16:12:06] <ke4qqq> k
[11-Jan-2008 16:12:24] <klinstifen> how's that apache zenpack mod coming along?
[11-Jan-2008 16:14:17] <ke4qqq> I haven't had much time to spend on zenoss at all of late unfortunately. finally got some initiatives that require some work with it today
[11-Jan-2008 16:14:28] <ke4qqq> hows exchange coming?
[11-Jan-2008 16:14:55] <klinstifen> made some progress
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:03] <klinstifen> tracking db write/read ios now
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:21] <klinstifen> but spent past week trying to move from ubuntu to centos and upgrade from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:23] <klinstifen> all to no avail
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:26] <klinstifen> wasted a week
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:31] <klinstifen> now back where i started
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:54] <ke4qqq> u didn't like centos?
[11-Jan-2008 16:17:21] <klinstifen> it wouldn't work on my box
[11-Jan-2008 16:17:31] <klinstifen> i tried centos5.1 and my box kept locking up
[11-Jan-2008 16:17:35] <klinstifen> had to hard reset
[11-Jan-2008 16:19:06] <ke4qqq> I added this to my Graph Custom Def: CDEF:MessagesReceived=messages_recvd_messagesrecvd-raw,60,* and it looks to have hosed the graph (no longer displaying)
[11-Jan-2008 16:31:06] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: if you go to the Graph Commands tab do you see messages_recvd_messagesrecvd-raw in there?
[11-Jan-2008 16:31:29] <klinstifen> is it equal to the path of your rrd file?
[11-Jan-2008 16:32:36] <ke4qqq> here is my graph commands tab: http://pastebin.ca/850949 and yes I see that (or at least a permutation - I misspelled the first one)
[11-Jan-2008 16:32:44] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 850949 (at pastebin.ca)
[11-Jan-2008 16:43:39] <klinstifen> ke4qq: now that you fixed the typo is the graph still broken/
[11-Jan-2008 16:44:59] <klinstifen> and by broken i mean, does it not appear at all?
[11-Jan-2008 16:45:11] <klinstifen> or does that MessagesReceived not appear correctly
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:08] <ke4qqq> MessagesReceived doesn't appear correctly now
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:20] <ke4qqq> still appears to be showing messages per second
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:33] <klinstifen> ok cool
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:37] <klinstifen> it's not appearing
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:40] <klinstifen> becaus
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:59] <klinstifen> you haven't defined the graph for that new CDEF
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:18] <mikeatmedicor> is there a way to change the default port (from 8080 to either 80 or preferavbly 443) that zenoss listens on other than using the apache front end method?
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:21] <klinstifen> see how there are GPRINTs for messages_recvd
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:29] <klinstifen> you need to make GPRINTs for MessagesReceived
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:48] <klinstifen> just copy the ones for messages_recvd and you'll be good to go
[11-Jan-2008 16:49:06] <ke4qqq> k
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:10] <klinstifen> mikeatmedic: found this in the forums...should do the trick
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:11] <klinstifen> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4460&highlight=change+port++apache
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - port 80 (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:42] <klinstifen> you have to modify the zope config
[11-Jan-2008 16:52:24] <ke4qqq> hmmmm here is what I have: http://pastebin.ca/850971 and the figures appear to be right......but the graph still isn't. it's still graphing in the m range instead of whole numbers
[11-Jan-2008 16:52:57] <mikeatmedicor> thanks klin just noticed it was running zope and that was my next question ... lol ... could i edit the zope conf without trashing the system
[11-Jan-2008 16:53:00] <mikeatmedicor> =D
[11-Jan-2008 16:53:25] <klinstifen> hehe
[11-Jan-2008 16:55:26] <ke4qqq> stupid question perhaps, but do I need to have a graph point defined for the custom def stuff?
[11-Jan-2008 16:55:58] <mikeatmedicor> so ... lemme get this straight, i use apache (with virtual hostname set to http://zenoss/ - listening on 80 and 443 - autoforwarding everything to 443) wich auto-magically forwared everything to 8080/8443 (where zope sits and listens for stuff)
[11-Jan-2008 16:56:23] <mikeatmedicor> oh and zope is configured to have a hostname of zenoss ... so how can i have a hostname and a virtual hostname of the same thing>
[11-Jan-2008 16:56:26] <mikeatmedicor> ?
[11-Jan-2008 16:56:30] <mikeatmedicor> dosnt make sense to me
[11-Jan-2008 16:57:51] <mikeatmedicor> if binding to port 80 (or443) requires root privs, i wonder if i can make it so it dosnt
[11-Jan-2008 16:59:06] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: what do you mean?
[11-Jan-2008 17:01:17] <klinstifen> mike: dunno about the virtual hostname thing...
[11-Jan-2008 17:02:15] <mikeatmedicor> ah screw it... it works ok as is, and i dare anyone in my company to try and guess the login/pass info needed to get into this boc =p everyone here is a moron anyhow
[11-Jan-2008 17:04:19] <klinstifen> mike: ahahahaha
[11-Jan-2008 17:04:57] <ke4qqq> klinstifen, under the graph def. tab: I have 4 graph points defined, which aren't the graph point I am interested in (which I though I had running on the graph custom def. stuff.
[11-Jan-2008 17:05:49] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: ohh...yeah add the one you are interested in and change the line to "not drawn"
[11-Jan-2008 17:06:01] <klinstifen> wait...
[11-Jan-2008 17:07:22] <klinstifen> yeah add the point and turn off the line
[11-Jan-2008 17:07:31] <klinstifen> and add the custom commands
[11-Jan-2008 17:08:30] <ke4qqq> hmmm, well I have the MessagesReceived gprint line with figures that appear to be realistic, but the graph still looks to be per second.
[11-Jan-2008 17:11:02] <ke4qqq> ahhh wait I see the problem
[11-Jan-2008 17:13:48] <klinstifen> cool
[11-Jan-2008 17:15:17] <ke4qqq> in the area line I was still referencing the raw counter which is per second.
[11-Jan-2008 17:17:07] <klinstifen> gotcha
[11-Jan-2008 17:27:46] <_fuzz> hi.. i have a strange problem. just intalled the latest zenoss. i installed at machine A remotely via ssh from machine B. i added machine A (as "localhost") to the device list via the web gui. so far so good. but since then i've received events about /Status/Ping down for the IP of machine B! (which i've never told zenoss about)
[11-Jan-2008 17:27:58] <_fuzz> any ideas why this happens?
[11-Jan-2008 17:28:37] <_fuzz> i cannot remove machine B from zenoss, because it does not exist as a device. so i'm kindof stuck with the ping events pouring in...
[11-Jan-2008 17:29:55] <_fuzz> btw.. the ip of machine B that it tries to ping is not even a real ip.. it's a 10.x.x.x nat'et ip.. i have no idea where zenoss got that from.....
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[11-Jan-2008 18:20:37] <ke4qqq> hmmmmm I dont know what I am doing wrong - I setup a data point for page count as a counter - defined a graph to display that datapoint and it doesn't. (haven't gotten to modify it for my purposes) I am sleep deprived, but anyone seen such before?
[11-Jan-2008 18:23:21] <klinstifen> does it say rrd not found or something like that?
[11-Jan-2008 18:23:32] <ke4qqq> nope my other graphs for that device work well
[11-Jan-2008 18:23:49] <klinstifen> what's displayed under that graph?
[11-Jan-2008 18:24:41] <ke4qqq> another graph......
[11-Jan-2008 18:25:00] <ke4qqq> interestingly, I have another device configured exactly the same that graphs it properly
[11-Jan-2008 18:26:44] <klinstifen> _fuzz: when you get the email notifying you that the ping is down there should be a Event Detail link
[11-Jan-2008 18:26:53] <klinstifen> if you follow that does it show you the device in question?
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:17] <ke4qqq> finally.....I don't know why.....maybe due to no change in the counter it wasn't updating......it finally popped up, but I didn't change anything
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:29] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: run zentestcommand -d "problemdevice" --datasource="yoursource"
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:35] <klinstifen> and see what error it gives you
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:43] <klinstifen> oh ok
[11-Jan-2008 18:40:29] <johns55> arg man, zenwinmodeler is driving me nuts!
[11-Jan-2008 18:41:01] <johns55> I get an RPC error after adding a windows box last night, then I cleared it this morning, after clearing it, I get a heartbeat failure
[11-Jan-2008 20:21:35] <twm10101> If I bind a template in class, is that automatically bound in the class below?
[11-Jan-2008 22:53:06] <BrixWork> I'm trying to play around with test traps to zenoss and following the example in the manual, "snmptrap -v 2c -c public localhost '' 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.991.1.3.6.1.2.1.1.6 s "Device in Annapolis"" I get the following error, "s: Missing type/value for variable" any ideas?
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[12-Jan-2008 00:13:57] <telexicon> Anyone else have issues with stability in zenoss?
[12-Jan-2008 00:57:39] <johns55> what version?
[12-Jan-2008 00:57:43] <johns55> 2.1.2 is not bad
[12-Jan-2008 01:28:28] <johns55> anyone get dns monitor working?
[12-Jan-2008 01:28:41] <johns55> ah data sources seem like a lot of work
[12-Jan-2008 02:45:25] <telexicon> I'm using 2.1.1
[12-Jan-2008 02:45:34] <telexicon> just random weirdness seems to go on
[12-Jan-2008 02:45:44] <telexicon> and the ZODB really doesn't like being shutdown improperly
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[12-Jan-2008 17:13:41] <cpufreak> is there a nice way to forcibly remove a broken zenpack? (i.e. something to do when zenpack --remove doesn't work)
[12-Jan-2008 17:14:55] <cpufreak> I've been writing an zenpack creater for performance templates for various custom snmp oids we have here, as I didn't want to do them by hand..
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[13-Jan-2008 20:13:21] <flatline-kun> Can anyone tell me if there is a problem with the Darwin collectors in the current build?
[13-Jan-2008 22:01:15] <Bulwinkle> flatline-kun: sorry, no idea... I'm not lucky enough to have darwin in my environment
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[13-Jan-2008 23:16:06] <bgfyrman> I have a Problem with 2.1.2 for vmware. I get everything to work great but I can't get portscan enabled
[13-Jan-2008 23:16:23] <bgfyrman> Does anyone have any sugestions thanks
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[14-Jan-2008 07:26:14] <flatline-kun> how do you compile a custom collector plugin?
[14-Jan-2008 11:13:51] <wulfen> My zenoss 2.1 isn't producing any performance graphs. Where do I start to troubleshoot?
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[14-Jan-2008 14:19:45] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[14-Jan-2008 14:31:33] <klinstifen> morning...anyone awake in here?
[14-Jan-2008 14:31:48] <klinstifen> i'm looking for a mib to monitor Avg. Disk sec/Transfer on Windows hdd's
[14-Jan-2008 14:32:12] <klinstifen> * to monitor Avg. Disk sec/Transfer on hdd's in windows
[14-Jan-2008 15:21:50] <BrixWork> I'd like to send alerts to a user when an event is created, but not when it's cleared, is there a way to do that?
[14-Jan-2008 15:26:55] <Bulwinkle> BrixWork: yes
[14-Jan-2008 15:32:03] <BrixWork> cool, perhaps I should rephrase the question to more accuratly ask what I'm looking for, "How do I setup an alert to notify when an event is created but not send the alert when it's cleared?"
[14-Jan-2008 15:32:15] <BrixWork> hehe
[14-Jan-2008 15:38:01] <jaredo> Hello, im trying to setup interface monitoring on a cisco switch for sending events when an interface changes state. Can anyone point me to documention on this or how I might do this?
[14-Jan-2008 16:01:09] <BrixWork> Jaredo: I think you'd get that if you setup the cisco to send traps to ZenOSS, I think it sends ifdown/ifup traps.
[14-Jan-2008 16:02:33] <jaredo> ok ill try that
[14-Jan-2008 16:02:35] <jaredo> thanks
[14-Jan-2008 16:03:04] <BrixWork> you may find that you need to import the mibs as well to get meaningful info, but it's a start.
[14-Jan-2008 16:05:59] <BrixWork> on my earlier question... on not sending clear messages, found my answer and it's an obvious, id10t error on my part, helps if I read the screen....
[14-Jan-2008 16:16:47] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[14-Jan-2008 16:17:03] <MoreDakka> Anyone know a doc that can tell me how to install mibs on v1.1.1?
[14-Jan-2008 16:17:15] <MoreDakka> ver 2.1.2 is super easy.
[14-Jan-2008 17:08:16] <MoreDakka> nvm, found it.
[14-Jan-2008 17:35:42] <MuseHome> How does windows events show ip in zenoss? does a wmic aspp get them?
[14-Jan-2008 17:46:47] <twm1010> yes
[14-Jan-2008 17:47:07] <MuseHome> Does zeneventlog go get the events from the windows systems?
[14-Jan-2008 17:51:39] <jaredo> When sending test traps to the local system im not seeing any trap information in the event console
[14-Jan-2008 17:51:58] <jaredo> or under unknown
[14-Jan-2008 17:55:57] <jaredo> nm just got one
[14-Jan-2008 17:57:00] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[14-Jan-2008 18:12:52] <MuseHome> anyone know what "zeneventlog: Com GatewayCount" is?
[14-Jan-2008 18:23:55] <klinstifen> anyone doing web server monitoringA?
[14-Jan-2008 18:29:19] <johns55> yes watsup?
[14-Jan-2008 18:34:04] <MuseHome> johns55: Who are you replaying to? :-)
[14-Jan-2008 18:38:54] <johns55> MuseHome: klinstifen
[14-Jan-2008 18:40:43] <klinstifen> johns55: cool. i am wondering what sorta stats you are grabbing and whether or not you made any custom templates.
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:17] <klinstifen> i am currently getting default info...bytes/sec, requests/sec, connections/sec
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:32] <klinstifen> but that doesn't add up to anything that i can say "this is what we did total for today"
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:36] <klinstifen> know what i mean?
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:37] <johns55> is this through apache monitor zenpack?
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:46] <klinstifen> nah, i made an iis zenpack
[14-Jan-2008 18:42:01] <johns55> same thing pretty much
[14-Jan-2008 18:42:05] <johns55> have u considered awstats?
[14-Jan-2008 18:42:35] <johns55> thats what were using over here
[14-Jan-2008 18:43:52] <klinstifen> that looks pretty sweet
[14-Jan-2008 18:43:58] <johns55> yes it is
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:07] <klinstifen> i'll take a look...are you doing anything within zenoss?
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:20] <johns55> nothing special for stats
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:28] <johns55> we have apache webservers
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:48] <johns55> and the apache zenpack is useless to us because it actually slows down the webservers
[14-Jan-2008 18:45:26] <johns55> just monitor the http port, diskspace, etc
[14-Jan-2008 19:05:28] <klinstifen> johns55: ok thanks
[14-Jan-2008 19:18:55] <johns55> any install 2.1.7? any improvements?
[14-Jan-2008 19:25:47] <duncan> help! my zenhub keeps restarting and taking down other services with it.. I've been through the forums but and tried a few fixes but I'm still stuck. zenoss Zenoss 2.1.70 r8120 - compiled on Debian Etch
[14-Jan-2008 19:26:05] <johns55> wow latest build too
[14-Jan-2008 19:27:31] <duncan> well there weren't any debian binaries so...
[14-Jan-2008 19:28:00] <johns55> did u install it correctly? did u check /var/log/messages?
[14-Jan-2008 19:28:19] <klinstifen> did you rm zenhub.zec?
[14-Jan-2008 19:29:12] <duncan> no errors in /var/log/messages that I can see.. I just rebooted earlier because I had some zombie python processes from the services restarting constantly
[14-Jan-2008 19:29:30] <duncan> zenhub.zec? nope..
[14-Jan-2008 19:29:46] <duncan> it looks like zenhub is whats restarting and it's taking out services that rely on it
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:27] <klinstifen> duncan: try going to $ZENHOME/var
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:35] <klinstifen> and rm'ing zenhub-1.zec
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:44] <klinstifen> sometimes that gets corrupt
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:54] <klinstifen> and deleting it fixes zenhub probs
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:56] <duncan> klinstifen: thanks, I'll try it
[14-Jan-2008 19:34:02] <duncan> started up now, we'll see if it's stable =)
[14-Jan-2008 19:34:18] <duncan> this is the error from the zenhub log: 2008-01-14 14:31:30 ERROR watchdog: Timeout: getting initial connection from process
[14-Jan-2008 19:34:28] <duncan> and -- 2008-01-14 14:31:41 ERROR watchdog: Restarting zenhub
[14-Jan-2008 19:35:13] <duncan> ahh a new message: 2008-01-14 14:34:52 WARNING zenhub: removing listener
[14-Jan-2008 19:37:25] <duncan> 2008-01-14 14:36:58 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.DeadReferenceError: Calling Stale Broker
[14-Jan-2008 19:37:25] <duncan> ]
[14-Jan-2008 19:39:55] <duncan> hmm watchdog is still detecting a timeout getting status from zenhub and restarting it every 2 minutes
[14-Jan-2008 19:43:17] <duncan> this is the zenhub log: http://pastebin.ca/855065
[14-Jan-2008 19:43:25] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 855065 (at pastebin.ca)
[14-Jan-2008 19:51:38] <duncan> allright, I guess I'll delete and reinstall.. too bad about the 600 nodes I've already modeled -- any ideas before I blow it away? maybe I should use a binary release instead of compiling?
[14-Jan-2008 19:53:28] <duncan> I'm trying to convert from using OpenNMS to ZenOSS because I love the interface! But I need to stay Debian because if I can't get it to work I'll have to fall back on OpenNMS.
[14-Jan-2008 19:53:46] <duncan> Which is already compiled and running fine on this same box.
[14-Jan-2008 19:54:23] <duncan> Is there a stable snapshot out there? Maybe I'm using the trunk and it's not entirely stable?
[14-Jan-2008 19:54:24] <MuseHome> load up VMware... then you can move it anywhere.
[14-Jan-2008 19:54:52] <duncan> Will it run allright virtualized? It's a dell poweredge 1850 (4gb ram)
[14-Jan-2008 19:55:19] <MuseHome> 600 nodes?
[14-Jan-2008 19:55:37] <duncan> Well, probably around 1000
[14-Jan-2008 19:55:48] <duncan> only had 600 so far because the discovery broke halfway through
[14-Jan-2008 19:56:15] <johns55> duncan: there should be a backup script
[14-Jan-2008 19:56:30] <johns55> i believe its caleld zenbackup
[14-Jan-2008 19:57:21] <duncan> ahh I can keep my database? that would be awesome.. I'm so excited about this product. =) Python > Java
[14-Jan-2008 19:57:39] <johns55> duncan: yes zenbackup
[14-Jan-2008 19:57:49] <duncan> johns55: thanks I'll check it out
[14-Jan-2008 20:00:03] <duncan> where is this script located?
[14-Jan-2008 20:00:27] <duncan> nm
[14-Jan-2008 20:00:29] <johns55> "USR/LOCAL/ZENOSS/BIN/ZENBACKUP"
[14-Jan-2008 20:08:24] <johns55> anyone seen this error before from the zenwinmoder.log? has bad wmi state
[14-Jan-2008 20:27:55] <MuseHome> Is there a quick way to load in a tun of MIBs?
[14-Jan-2008 20:29:51] <maxamillion> what is the default login/password once zenoss is installed?
[14-Jan-2008 20:31:52] <klinstifen> max: admin zenoss
[14-Jan-2008 20:32:37] <maxamillion> klinstifen: thank you, is that somewhere in a document and i just missed it?
[14-Jan-2008 20:32:51] <maxamillion> klinstifen: it wasn't in the install guide and i didn't see it in the FAQ
[14-Jan-2008 20:32:57] <klinstifen> yeah, i think it's in both the quickstart and admin guide
[14-Jan-2008 20:33:35] <maxamillion> ah, i didn't check the quickstart ... though i did breifly check the admin guide, i must have missed it
[14-Jan-2008 20:33:41] <maxamillion> thank you for your help
[14-Jan-2008 20:52:38] <jaredo> If i send a test trap using snmptrap it shows up properly in events as unknown, however the traps my cisco router are sending out are not showing up anywhere
[14-Jan-2008 20:53:04] <jaredo> debug on the router shows the trap being sent out to the correct ip
[14-Jan-2008 20:53:48] <jaredo> is there a way to debug zentrap?
[14-Jan-2008 21:06:35] <klinstifen> jaredo: is there anything in the zentrap log?
[14-Jan-2008 21:13:49] <BrixWork> jaredo: what command are you using to send snmptrap test traps, I've tried what's in the admin guide and I get errors.
[14-Jan-2008 21:25:02] <BrixWork> is there anyone here from the Minneapolis/St. Paul area? More spicificly I'm looking to see if anyone knows if there are any ZenOSS User groups in the area.
[14-Jan-2008 21:26:00] <jaredo> BrixWork:snmptrap -v2c -c dls-private localhost 1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5.5 o
[14-Jan-2008 21:26:11] <jaredo> where dls-private is community
[14-Jan-2008 21:26:23] <jaredo> really any oid should work
[14-Jan-2008 21:27:07] <jaredo> my prob was an access lists on one of our switches i didnt see
[14-Jan-2008 21:27:14] <jaredo> was blocking snmp traffic
[14-Jan-2008 21:27:19] <jaredo> working now
[14-Jan-2008 21:43:22] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[14-Jan-2008 21:51:54] <duncan> so far so good, I removed the compiled version of zenoss, installed vmware and setup the VM version and it's restoring the backup now
[14-Jan-2008 21:52:30] <duncan> I noticed the disk is 5gb fixed? will this be enough for a 1000 node network? if not I can grow the disk but just curious
[14-Jan-2008 21:55:09] <BrixWork> jaredo: cool thanks
[14-Jan-2008 21:59:33] <maxamillion> after i have configured my snmp community strings, should the server start discovering things automatically? or is there something i need to do to tell it to start the discovery process? ... quickStart 3.1.2 seems slightly unclear about this
[14-Jan-2008 21:59:46] <jb> is zope not included in the el5 RPM anymore?
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:32] <maxamillion> jb: i believe it is ... i just installed on my el5 server and didn't have to grab any zope dependencies before installing the zenoss rpm
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:46] <jb> jb: the RPM does not contain /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl or zenctl
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:49] <jb> err\
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:51] <jb> maxamillion:
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:54] <maxamillion> oh .... huh
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:08] <jb> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:08] <jb> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:21] <jb> fresh install of 2.1.2 on centos5.1
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:30] <maxamillion> mine too
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:39] <maxamillion> i'm running x86_64 though .... if that might matter
[14-Jan-2008 22:02:17] <jb> hm
[14-Jan-2008 22:02:22] <jb> ive never had this issue with other installs
[14-Jan-2008 22:02:59] <jb> max: could you paste me the output of "rpm -ql zenoss* | grep zopectl" ?
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:01] <maxamillion> this was my first install .... so i probably wouldn't be of much help
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:06] <maxamillion> sure can
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:20] <duncan> to answer my previous question if anyone is reading along, 5gb is definitely too small for a 1000 node network, restoring the backup filled up my VM's vmdk
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:42] <maxamillion> jb: nothing output
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:58] <jb> max: so you dont have a /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl file?
[14-Jan-2008 22:05:07] <maxamillion> jb: yes, that file i have
[14-Jan-2008 22:05:17] <maxamillion> not sure why it didn't show up in the rpm query
[14-Jan-2008 22:05:45] <jb> hm
[14-Jan-2008 22:06:30] <jb> this is odd
[14-Jan-2008 22:06:34] <jb> and which RPM did you install?
[14-Jan-2008 22:06:52] <maxamillion> jb: just a moment
[14-Jan-2008 22:07:42] <maxamillion> jb: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5.x86_64.rpm
[14-Jan-2008 22:07:45] <maxamillion> that's the one i downloaded
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:01] <jb> alrighty
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:04] <jb> thanks
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:08] <jb> I have no idea whats going on here
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:11] <maxamillion> np
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:14] <maxamillion> i sorry
[14-Jan-2008 22:09:56] <MuseHome> Is there a quick way to load in a ton of MIBs? and dependencies?
[14-Jan-2008 22:10:32] <MuseHome> can I just do a zenmib run * in the mib dir?
[14-Jan-2008 22:10:38] <jb> hmm, I think so
[14-Jan-2008 22:10:44] <jb> I *think* I have done *
[14-Jan-2008 22:11:29] <jb> max: ok, think I fixed it.
[14-Jan-2008 22:11:42] <jb> I had to touch /opt/zenoss/bin/.fresh_install
[14-Jan-2008 22:11:45] <jb> for some reason
[14-Jan-2008 22:12:10] <MuseHome> Do you know how the sites work? like iana, ietf, irtf, site and tubs... Do I need my mibs in all or one spot?
[14-Jan-2008 22:45:25] <duncan> what is the default zenoss user password for the vmware vm?
[14-Jan-2008 22:46:55] <duncan> hmm the restore process fails and gives me an error: Access denied for user `zenoss`@`localhost` (using password: NO)
[14-Jan-2008 22:48:39] <maxamillion> duncan: try user:admin pass:zenoss
[14-Jan-2008 22:49:23] <duncan> maxamillion: for the zenrestore? I know that's the default to log into zope.. but I'm trying to import ~600 nodes to my VM
[14-Jan-2008 22:52:27] <maxamillion> duncan: oh ... that i'm not too sure about
[14-Jan-2008 23:03:31] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[14-Jan-2008 23:04:21] <aurax> hello anyone around ?
[14-Jan-2008 23:08:29] <aurax> anyone fermilier with this snmp error?
[14-Jan-2008 23:08:30] <aurax> Cannot find module (ux): At line 0 in (none)
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:40] <johns55> yes
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:47] <aurax> hi
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:50] <johns55> r u on a windows box?
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:55] <aurax> nope, centos
[14-Jan-2008 23:16:13] <aurax> 4.5
[14-Jan-2008 23:16:18] <johns55> so you're on a centos box running zenoss and performing an snmpwalk on another centos box?
[14-Jan-2008 23:16:47] <aurax> no, zenoss running on ubuntu server and the device is centos
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:08] <johns55> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:17] <aurax> and this error is coming from the device
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:22] <aurax> while trying to start snmpd
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:34] <johns55> ok so you're on the ubuntu server running an snmpwalk on the centos server?
[14-Jan-2008 23:18:40] <aurax> yep
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:00] <johns55> do u have snmp running on both servers?
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:10] <aurax> no that's what im saying
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:12] <johns55> and configuered your snmpd.conf correctly?
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:16] <aurax> the error above comes from snmpd
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:21] <aurax> that some module is missing
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:36] <johns55> do an snmpd -H
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:41] <johns55> and see what that gives u
[14-Jan-2008 23:20:23] <johns55> also do an rpm -qa | grep snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:20:28] <johns55> and see what that gives u
[14-Jan-2008 23:20:33] <aurax> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:07] <aurax> it prints out some info
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:13] <johns55> any errors?
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:33] <aurax> AES support is not avilable
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:39] <aurax> hmm nothing more
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:46] <johns55> what about the rpm command?
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:51] <aurax> same
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:58] <aurax> 5.1.2-11
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:03] <aurax> net-snmp-libs
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:06] <aurax> and net-snmp-utils
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:08] <aurax> and net-snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:26] <johns55> ok, have u made any changes to your snmpd.conf?
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:30] <aurax> snmpconf
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:38] <aurax> to enable public r/w
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:05] <johns55> did u install from source or binary?
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:17] <aurax> snmp?
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:22] <johns55> zenoss
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:23] <aurax> binray/yum
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:28] <aurax> zenoss from source
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:33] <aurax> but zenoss got nothing to do with it...
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:38] <aurax> it's weird snmpd problem
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:50] <johns55> ok go to your source tree
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:59] <johns55> there should be an snmpd.conf on there u can use
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:59] <aurax> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:06] <johns55> that gives better permission
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:19] <aurax> ok..
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:20] <johns55> cp that to /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:26] <johns55> then restart snmpd
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:38] <johns55> do that for both the zenoss server and the server u want to monitor
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:50] <aurax> ok one sec
[14-Jan-2008 23:25:38] <johns55> the snmpd.conf should be in the conf folder in the source tree
[14-Jan-2008 23:25:47] <aurax> yeh found it
[14-Jan-2008 23:26:38] <aurax> noep fails
[14-Jan-2008 23:26:39] <aurax> nope*
[14-Jan-2008 23:26:50] <johns55> may i log on and see?
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:03] <aurax> ah
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:06] <aurax> it's behing a nat
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:14] <johns55> hrm
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:26] <aurax> company's server...
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:35] <johns55> ok run snmpd -H and pastebin that output to me
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:39] <aurax> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:30:10] <aurax> http://pastebin.com/m5d6f1984
[14-Jan-2008 23:30:20] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Jan-2008 23:31:27] <aurax> brb
[14-Jan-2008 23:31:52] <duncan> wow, ok vmware performance is rather poor for a 1000 node network.. I'm going to have to find a different solution
[14-Jan-2008 23:32:37] <duncan> I upped the memory from 640mb to 2gb, raised the HDD size from 5gb to 36gb, and it takes about 30 seconds to load the dashboard
[14-Jan-2008 23:34:11] <aurax> im running zenoss on a dell poweredge 2950 with two quad core xeons and 4gb
[14-Jan-2008 23:34:38] <aurax> and raid0 2x146gb 15k
[14-Jan-2008 23:34:45] <aurax> no latency
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:00] <duncan> this is an 1850 dual 4gb.. runs great native but the vmware overhead is killer
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:10] <duncan> non raid
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:10] <aurax> yeah what os?
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:17] <duncan> debian etch
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:20] <aurax> good...
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:26] <aurax> you get performace issueS
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:27] <aurax> hmm
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:30] <aurax> you tuned it up ?
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:37] <duncan> I compiled the latest earlier but the daemons were crashing..
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:48] <duncan> I took someones suggestion to try the vmware appliance
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:51] <aurax> i got it up on ubuntu realllly smooth.
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:03] <aurax> but nah, i aint running it under vmware
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:07] <duncan> yea it was really smooth to compile
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:08] <aurax> on the vmware host tho
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:14] <aurax> but not as vm
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:18] <aurax> waste..
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:32] <aurax> i don't think vmware is capable of holding 1k nodes..
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:39] <aurax> i mean with stability..
[14-Jan-2008 23:37:06] <duncan> I'm not sure what the vmware app is for really.. I had to resize the parition just to be able to restore my backup from this morning
[14-Jan-2008 23:37:31] <duncan> maybe small 10 node networks that just need SLA
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:01] <duncan> anyway, I'm out of here... I'll try ubu 7.10 tom
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:06] <aurax> good
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:07] <aurax> luck
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:12] <duncan> ty
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:16] <aurax> go for 7.10-server
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:20] <aurax> ahh..
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:50] <johns55> ok aurax: did you paste everything?
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:53] <johns55> looks like top half is missing
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:53] <aurax> yep
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:58] <aurax> really?
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:18] <johns55> yes
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:21] <johns55> let me show u mine
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:27] <aurax> damn how can i fix it
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:46] <johns55> what is the snmpwalk command u use?
[14-Jan-2008 23:41:14] <johns55> http://pastebin.com/ma6c78eb
[14-Jan-2008 23:41:24] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Jan-2008 23:41:27] <aurax> i'm just trying to start the service, no snmpwalk
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:03] <johns55> ohh so starting the service gives u those errors?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:10] <aurax> yep
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:11] <johns55> the mib not found?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:14] <aurax> ux
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:22] <johns55> hrm..
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:25] <aurax> what's ux?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:26] <johns55> you're running 5.2.1?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:28] <aurax> ype
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:30] <aurax> yep*
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:12] <johns55> geez..have u tried to remove and re-install?
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:29] <johns55> do a yum update before that also
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:40] <aurax> it's a fresh install
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:49] <aurax> centos 4.5...
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:04] <johns55> type /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:06] <johns55> and tell me what u see
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:27] <aurax> i get [ OK ] message.
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:32] <aurax> looks like it's running up
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:42] <aurax> but when i try to 'shutdown' it says failes
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:47] <aurax> becuase it's never really got up
[14-Jan-2008 23:45:18] <johns55> type lsof -i -n -P | grep snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:45:40] <aurax> nada
[14-Jan-2008 23:45:49] <johns55> wth...
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:05] <johns55> do a tail /var/log/messages
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:11] <aurax> also in my good snmp servers it's gives empty output
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:12] <johns55> see if u find anything related to starting the service
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:58] <johns55> r u getting these erros on the ubuntu server too?
[14-Jan-2008 23:47:26] <aurax> no
[14-Jan-2008 23:47:40] <aurax> but i got other centos servers that are working fine
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:09] <johns55> hrm, at this pt i suggest removing the yum install of snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:17] <johns55> and installing from source on the net-snmp website
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:38] <johns55> the problem most likely lies with the install
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:40] <johns55> of snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:44] <johns55> or your OS
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:51] <aurax> hmm
[14-Jan-2008 23:49:00] <aurax> google say's nothing about this error
[14-Jan-2008 23:49:18] <johns55> so /var/log/messages doeesnt come up with anything?
[14-Jan-2008 23:49:35] <aurax> which is really stange... because there is nothng different with those installations
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:49] <johns55> yeah, there shouldnt be a reason why snmpd would not start at all
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:49] <aurax> johns55, thank you very much but i gtg ... its 2 am over here
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:56] <johns55> where r u located?
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:58] <aurax> u will be around here tomorrow?
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:00] <aurax> israel
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:05] <johns55> wow
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:06] <johns55> yes
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:20] <aurax> coo, i'll jump by hee
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:33] <aurax> nite!
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:41] <johns55> =D
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[15-Jan-2008 01:49:45] <iliad> Was wondering if anyone can help adding a mib to Zenoss..on a virtual appliance?
[15-Jan-2008 01:50:54] <iliad> when trying to run zenbmib, it errors out /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory, but the file is there.
[15-Jan-2008 01:52:32] <iliad> The script references $ZENHOME which seems to resolve to /root, rather then /zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 01:52:47] <iliad> or is there any 1 here?
[15-Jan-2008 01:52:54] <iliad> :-)?
[15-Jan-2008 03:22:59] <chowmeined> Is there a way to apply templates based on discovered characteristics automatically? I have a dell poweredge zenpack, is there a way to have it auto apply to certain dell machines based on model numbers etc? Also, how can I add the ability for zenoss to pull model info, service tags etc and put it on the main info page for each of my servers (its all available with SNMP, I just don't know how to add it)
[15-Jan-2008 03:23:32] <chowmeined> And finally, some of my servers have different raid configurations, is there a way I can have the snmp monitoring template have smarter thresholds to account for servers with different configurations?
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[15-Jan-2008 12:37:01] <twm10101> mornin east coasters
[15-Jan-2008 15:04:49] <klinstifen> when graphing a line, i've noticed that the line width seems to not apply (i.e changing it from 1 to 5 does nothing)
[15-Jan-2008 15:04:54] <klinstifen> can anyone else confirm this?
[15-Jan-2008 15:12:41] <duncan> morning! I just compiled and installed zenoss again and with a blank install, zenhub is spewing out these errors: http://pastebin.ca/856092 -- anyone seen this or have an idea what might be causing it? =)
[15-Jan-2008 15:12:50] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 856092 (at pastebin.ca)
[15-Jan-2008 15:29:05] <twm10101> duncan
[15-Jan-2008 15:29:09] <twm10101> is MySQL started?
[15-Jan-2008 15:33:21] <duncan> twm10101: yes
[15-Jan-2008 15:40:52] <twm10101> hrmm... that ones out of my realm
[15-Jan-2008 15:41:06] <twm10101> what os?
[15-Jan-2008 15:41:15] <twm10101> err /distro?
[15-Jan-2008 15:41:39] <twm10101> duncan: what distro, and which ver. zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 15:42:16] <duncan> twm10101: debian etch, Zenoss 2.1.70 r8135 as of 0900 est today
[15-Jan-2008 15:42:56] <twm10101> Hrmm... why don't you try 2.1.2
[15-Jan-2008 15:43:15] <twm10101> .70 is an alpha build
[15-Jan-2008 15:43:28] <twm10101> and they changed the ver. of python i believe
[15-Jan-2008 15:44:21] <twm10101> There's a lot of posts on the forum about installing on Debian though
[15-Jan-2008 15:46:22] <duncan> twm10101: I'll check out the forums. I just wanted to check if it was a known or easily spotted issue.
[15-Jan-2008 15:48:23] <jro> I added a user to the zenuser role, is there a way i can give that role permission to view the event console?
[15-Jan-2008 15:48:30] <jro> Or is there a way to add custom roles?
[15-Jan-2008 15:58:50] <klinstifen> anyone defined custom graph points, specifically DEF's?
[15-Jan-2008 15:59:08] <klinstifen> I have defined mine with a consolidation of AVERAGE and the graph breaks...not sure what's going on
[15-Jan-2008 16:01:03] <maxamillion> where might i find documentation on how to get the google maps overlay working with my network map?
[15-Jan-2008 16:01:50] <klinstifen> max: is there a certain aspect that isn't working? the admin guide has general info
[15-Jan-2008 16:03:19] <maxamillion> klinstifen: ah, ok ... i was under the impression that it was a zenpack and i wasn't able to find anything about it ... thank you, i will check the admin guide
[15-Jan-2008 16:04:01] <klinstifen> nah, it's part of the install
[15-Jan-2008 16:04:11] <klinstifen> it's pretty easy to configure
[15-Jan-2008 16:04:19] <maxamillion> awesome
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[15-Jan-2008 16:06:27] <maxamillion> klinstifen: where might i aquire an API key?
[15-Jan-2008 16:06:27] <klinstifen> anyone have custom DEF's defined?
[15-Jan-2008 16:06:47] <klinstifen> if you follow the directions in the admin guide there is a link to the google page
[15-Jan-2008 16:07:08] <maxamillion> klinstifen: yeah, i just found the link ... sorry for the premature question
[15-Jan-2008 16:07:11] <klinstifen> you give it your domain name (i.e. whatever.whatevercompany.com) and your email addy then they give you the key
[15-Jan-2008 16:07:35] <klinstifen> tis ok
[15-Jan-2008 16:21:00] <klinstifen> where are the logs for zenrender located?
[15-Jan-2008 16:24:33] <maxamillion> klinstifen: check /opt/zenoss/log/
[15-Jan-2008 16:28:07] <twm10101> klinstifen: i did one with min or max the other day, theres a whole bunch of them you can use
[15-Jan-2008 16:29:58] <klinstifen> twm: i am trying mine with AVERAGE...but something is wrong
[15-Jan-2008 16:30:14] <klinstifen> twm: what was the path you used to your rrd file? rrdPath/yourfile.rrd?
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[15-Jan-2008 16:40:04] <twm10101> i thought they were all in ZENHOME/perf/Devices/Servername/filename.rrd
[15-Jan-2008 16:40:33] <duncan> new forum post: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=15337
[15-Jan-2008 16:40:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - AttributeError: 'Event' object has no attribute 'component' (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2008 16:41:21] <phreekbird> OK, so I setup Zenoos without a problem ... did the autodiscovery (which only found a small protion of the devices on the network), how can I add other devices manually? what steps can I take to setup Zenoss, and how do i get rid of the darn snmp and zenwin errors?
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:03] <twm10101> phreekbird: thats a loaded question
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:16] <phreekbird> oh boy
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:32] <twm10101> zenoss will discover anything that responds to an SNMP walk
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:40] <twm10101> and attempt to model those devices
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:57] <phreekbird> well i do not think my predisesors setup snmp at all ...
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:18] <phreekbird> cuase its mostly hit and miss and most of the devices i have automagicly found are usually printers
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:28] <twm10101> if those devices have different allowed snmp communities or SNMP is not setup, the walk will fail, and the dee
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:33] <twm10101> devices won't get added
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:42] <twm10101> right, because HP and most other printers are setup for SNMP by default
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:04] <phreekbird> exactly ... so im feeling i got to go to every dev and setup snmp?
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:05] <twm10101> are most of your systems windows or linux?
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:09] <phreekbird> dang thats gonna stink
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:14] <phreekbird> winshaft
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:26] <twm10101> okay.
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:29] <phreekbird> a few nix machines that i have setup sense i took over
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:43] <twm10101> there are a few things you gotta do
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:52] <twm10101> first, decide on your SNMP community name your going to use.
[15-Jan-2008 16:45:22] <phreekbird> done
[15-Jan-2008 16:45:28] <twm10101> I used something clever, like Z3n0SS
[15-Jan-2008 16:45:49] * phreekbird writes out a checklist as you say this ... checks off number1 (uses company name)
[15-Jan-2008 16:46:13] <twm10101> well, if you're going to use the company name, do some case changes and/or number substitutions
[15-Jan-2008 16:46:25] <phreekbird> y is that?
[15-Jan-2008 16:46:45] <twm10101> SNMP has the capbility to make CHANGES to devices, if someone discovers your community name on a read/write community, they can seriously destroy your infrastructure
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:15] <twm10101> most devices will allow you to setup a read only, and a read/write community
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:17] <phreekbird> i thought thats what public/private was for ... set public for medicor set private for something else?
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:18] <twm10101> stick with read only, for now
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:32] <phreekbird> oh ... ok i smell what u r steppin in
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:34] <phreekbird> =D
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:35] <twm10101> exactly, i think you get the idea
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:47] <twm10101> by default, the read only community is "public" and the r/w is "private"
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:54] <phreekbird> Z3n0ss it is then
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:03] <twm10101> well, whatever you like, but be consistent about it
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:12] <phreekbird> k
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:43] <twm10101> do you understand how zProperties works?
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:52] <phreekbird> nope
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:06] <twm10101> how about a *nix filesystem?
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:25] <phreekbird> all debian etch based
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:40] <twm10101> i mean to say, do you know how unix filesystem privileges work?
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:49] <phreekbird> yes
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:05] <twm10101> ok, well think of zProperties as filesystem attributes
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:14] <twm10101> the files being the "devices" you've added to zenoss
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:15] <phreekbird> ok
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:22] <duncan> headsup: macworld 08 in 10 minutes, check your liveblogs
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:27] <twm10101> and the device classes are "directories"
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:44] <chowmeined> you can auto install the snmp component using a command line script
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:01] <chowmeined> and you can apply snmp community settings to windows directory with an AD group policy
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:14] <twm10101> and zProperties descend down through the device classes, until you make an exception
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:21] <chowmeined> er.. windows machines*
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:23] <twm10101> So if you click on "devices" on the left side
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:40] <twm10101> chowmeined : if you can e-mail me that script, i would be very grateful
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:48] <phreekbird> OK i setup the classes ... what i mean is i assigned the devices that where automagicly descovered to a specific class
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:08] <twm10101> Click on Devices, and hit zProperties
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:14] <phreekbird> i even figured out how to make a new class (dont know how i did it but i managed to create /Network/WirelessAP
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:27] <chowmeined> twm10101, phreekbird http://myitforum.com/articles/15/view.asp?id=8792
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:53] <adytum-bot> Title: myITforum.com : Using the Windows System stand-alone Optional Component Manager (sysocmgr) (at myitforum.com)
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:56] <phreekbird> thanks chowmeined
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:00] <chowmeined> it even lets you set all the initial snmp options first.. and you can force the rest with active directory
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:14] <twm10101> nice chow, nice... thats going to save me some time
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:22] <twm10101> So basically, what I
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:36] <twm10101> am getting at here, is you want to set your SNMP communitys in the zProperties of /Devices
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:48] <twm10101> and that setting will then automatically descend to all devices classes below it
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:57] <phreekbird> oh
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:01] <phreekbird> ok i think i c
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:11] <phreekbird> sec lemme go have a looksee at the page
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:29] <twm10101> but say you wanted to use a different community for your winblows servers, you could go to /Devices/Servers/Windows/zProperties/ and set different communities there
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:52] <phreekbird> zSnmpCommunities already has public and private
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:55] <phreekbird> oh thats nice
[15-Jan-2008 16:55:05] <twm10101> right, go ahead and add yours in there
[15-Jan-2008 16:55:16] <twm10101> that way when you run a discovery, it will also use yours to attempt to snmpwalk the devices it finds
[15-Jan-2008 16:55:44] <twm10101> there is also a field below that where you can specify a "default" community for it to use.
[15-Jan-2008 16:56:50] <twm10101> To monitor windows, fast and dirty, you will need to install the SNMP service (if its not there already) and configure it on the security tab to use whatever communities you like
[15-Jan-2008 16:57:09] <twm10101> using a default zenoss installation, you will also need to download the SNMP Informant
[15-Jan-2008 16:57:25] <twm10101> which is just an SNMP extension that zenoss queries for performance goodies
[15-Jan-2008 16:58:23] <twm10101> Zenoss will also use WMI to read Windows logs, so, you need to give it credentials that will get it into the windows box. these are set in the zProperties of /Devices/Server/Windows
[15-Jan-2008 16:58:42] <twm10101> having fun yet?
[15-Jan-2008 16:59:25] <chris____> twm10101: That's been a great explanation, and I enjoyed it. I have a couple of questions, though.
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[15-Jan-2008 17:00:11] <chris_d> In my device classes, I've broken my Linux servers into two groups.
[15-Jan-2008 17:00:49] <chris_d> I need to be able to add a port check for ssh (port 22) to only one of the two groups.
[15-Jan-2008 17:00:53] <chris_d> How do I do this?
[15-Jan-2008 17:01:50] <twm10101> Hrmm... i would think thats a per/device thing, rather then a per/class thing
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:08] <chris_d> twm10101: Urgh. I have 120 devices in that class...
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:10] <chris_d>
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:27] <twm10101> There is probably a way chris, I'm just not familiar with it. I'm learning too here
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:29] <chris_d> I've been able to do things like add temperature sensors to only one class.
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:31] <twm10101> <-- linux newbie
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:56] <twm10101> You did that through performance templates?
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:04] <chris_d> twm10101: Yes.
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:26] <chris_d> But the IP server template is marked "For future use"
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:45] <twm10101> well service monitoring is more of a device thing, then a "performance" thing
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:50] <twm10101> there has to be a way though
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:53] <chris_d> And I understand that templates work the same way as zProperties in that they apply to the class from wherever you are on down.
[15-Jan-2008 17:04:09] <twm10101> right... but this is a different type of monitoring
[15-Jan-2008 17:04:21] <twm10101> i get the feeling you will go about this from a different menu here hold on
[15-Jan-2008 17:04:34] <chris_d> twm10101: Thanks for any ideas!
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:23] <twm10101> heres an idea, how many do you NOT want it to monitor
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:32] <chowmeined> see i dont understand that part
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:47] <chris_d> Well, I want it to monitor *all* servers in a specific class.
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:48] <chowmeined> zenoss went to all the trouble to have these device classes and I know python supports multiple inheritence
[15-Jan-2008 17:07:42] <chowmeined> why cant you use the locations, groups and systems as well as device classes to set options based on certain characteristics
[15-Jan-2008 17:08:24] <twm10101> chowmeined: i think it would get mind-boggling
[15-Jan-2008 17:08:35] <chowmeined> so you can have all the ones that are located at X get these options.. and you can have the ones that do function Y get these options.. and you can have the ones used by userbase Z get these options..
[15-Jan-2008 17:08:45] <chowmeined> it would be flexible
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:03] <twm10101> i just think it would get insane, and you'd have serious trouble deciding which one takes priority
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:09] <chowmeined> because right now i dont have an easy way to set monitoring on some service to a subset of my devices in a certain category
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:12] <twm10101> would a group or system take priortiy of a device class?
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:44] <twm10101> hold on, let me RTFM
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:45] <chowmeined> im not saying use that as a solution.... thats just an idea
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:54] <twm10101> everytime i think i can't figure out, i'll be damned there it is
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:14] <jb_> for those of you using dell's/linux/OMSA.. shouldnt the "Serial #" field in ZenOSS automatically be populated with the Dell service tag?
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:15] <chowmeined> im just talking about a way to apply settings to groups of devices
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:30] <chowmeined> jb_, it doesn't for me.. if you figure that out please let me know
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:35] <chris_d> twm10101: You must be reading a different manual. I've tried to figure this out, but no luck.
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:43] <jb_> cho: it did for me in previous versions.. not in 2.1.2 tho
[15-Jan-2008 17:11:13] <chowmeined> I've been unable to get zenoss to query dell/omsa information and use it in a sane way
[15-Jan-2008 17:11:19] <twm10101> chris: its a bear of a manual, and its meant for someone with alot of experience
[15-Jan-2008 17:11:34] <jb_> what model/ver of OMSA?
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:09] <chowmeined> x650s - x2950s, using OMSA 5.3
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:15] <chowmeined> er x950s
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:23] <chowmeined> nevermind
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:35] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:49] <chowmeined> just lots of different models
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:53] <chowmeined> new ones and old ones
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:05] <chowmeined> are you monitoring raid arrays with zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:07] <jb_> and its not working on any of them?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:08] <jb_> yeah
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:17] <jb_> how do you mean?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:29] <jb_> i get alerts if a drive goes bad, array degraded, etc..
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:31] <twm10101> Ya know what. I don't know there guys. Perhaps one of the Zenoss guys can chime in here (looks at RAK)
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:38] <jb_> i *did*.. reconfiguring everything now
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:44] <rakATzenoss> yo what's up?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:48] <chowmeined> yea, they send snmp traps i think
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:01] <chowmeined> but it doesnt seem to pull information
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:05] <BrixHome> I'm having problems figuring out event correlation, specifically how to correlate a down to an up event where port name and up/down state are being passed in varbinds of the SNMP trap?
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:05] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:11] <jb_> you have the MIB's installed?
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:28] <chowmeined> yea, thats for the traps
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:31] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: We're trying to come up with a way to apply an IPService check to a single class of devices.
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:37] <jb_> so you arent getting any traps?
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:41] <twm10101> yeah, he summed it up great
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:43] <chowmeined> im getting traps
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:54] <twm10101> to apply, or to remove actually
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:12] <jb_> so whats not working?
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:20] <twm10101> Like, say we wanted to remove or add the SSH service monitor to all devices within a device class
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:35] <twm10101> port 22 that is, we're talking TCP port monitoring
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:47] <jb_> this is strange.. i *know* older versions used to automatically populate the serial # field..
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:50] <chowmeined> jb_, its not pulling the service tag, or filling in other dell specific information for me.. and
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:55] <jb_> ah ok
[15-Jan-2008 17:16:00] <jb_> yeah, that used to work for me on most boxes
[15-Jan-2008 17:16:02] <jb_> but not in 2.1.2
[15-Jan-2008 17:17:31] <rakATzenoss> jb_, is there something I can help with?
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:07] <twm10101> I see where in /Services/blah/blah/SSH i can disable or enable the default monitoring of a service
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:24] <jb_> rakat: yep, in 2.1.2, with dell servers/OMSA, Zenoss is not pulling the service tag, hardware vendor, etc
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:45] <jb_> rakATzenoss: any ideas?.. as far as I know, this info should be pulling this automatically
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:50] <chowmeined> jb_, im using 2.1.1 btw
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:55] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:59] <phreekbird> wow chowmeined ... looks like this script works for my local box
[15-Jan-2008 17:20:06] <phreekbird> wow it dose work
[15-Jan-2008 17:20:14] <chowmeined> twm10101, phreekbird theres a downside, the default location that it looks to for installation files (i386 dir) needs to be available otherwise it will error.. you can change that in the registry though.. i think its on that page
[15-Jan-2008 17:20:41] <phreekbird> need to edit the holly crap outof the answer file ...yea i notiecd that
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:18] <phreekbird> you know what this means "Service = Physical, Applications, End-to-End"
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:23] <phreekbird> ?
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:30] <twm10101> yeah we do that by default
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:34] <chowmeined> those are some check marks on the snmp configuration page... i never touch them
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:51] <phreekbird> ok
[15-Jan-2008 17:22:18] <phreekbird> Accept_CommunityName = Public:Read_Only <--- i want to replace Public with my chosen community name right?
[15-Jan-2008 17:22:42] <rakATzenoss> Did you check to see if the DellMonitor plugin is attached to your device group?
[15-Jan-2008 17:23:41] <chowmeined> phreekbird, yes
[15-Jan-2008 17:26:17] <rakATzenoss> jp_ send me an smnp walk of your machine...
[15-Jan-2008 17:26:22] <rakATzenoss> rak@zenoss.com
[15-Jan-2008 17:27:30] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Any hints on IPService monitoring by class?
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:06] <rakATzenoss> So you want to basically say -- monitor <this> service for all devices in <this> group?
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:32] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Yes. ssh, in this case.
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:56] <rakATzenoss> ok.
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:58] <rakATzenoss> let me see here.
[15-Jan-2008 17:29:51] <chowmeined> where do I apply plugins such as DellMonitor at?
[15-Jan-2008 17:30:03] <chowmeined> its not listed under templates
[15-Jan-2008 17:30:44] <chowmeined> oh, collector plugins
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:07] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:31] <rakATzenoss> chris_d, for the time being you cannot attach a Service or Process to a group.
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:52] <jb_> rakaATzenoss: no, I didnt.. let me check that
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:59] <chowmeined> theres DellDeviceMap and DellCPUMap
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:06] <chowmeined> but not DellMonitor
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:09] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: So machine by machine?
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:26] <chowmeined> chris_d, you could write a python script to automate it
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:52] <rakATzenoss> Globally created, then overridden locally.
[15-Jan-2008 17:33:15] <rakATzenoss> that's it -- DellDeviceMap should do the trick.
[15-Jan-2008 17:33:42] <twm10101> rak: thats a bummer. not everyone is proficient at python scripting
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:04] <rakATzenoss> understood.
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:20] <twm10101> add that to the list of "little things that would make a big difference" list
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:32] <chris_d> While I've got everyone here, I have one other major issue.
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:46] <rakATzenoss> like I said, this model doesn't fit well with the rest of the model, so it may be rolled into the product in a later version in a more consistent implementation.
[15-Jan-2008 17:35:23] <chris_d> A couple of times a day, I loose heartbeat on multiple ZenOSS services. They come back fairly quickly on their own, but I have gaps in my performance charts anytime one occurs.
[15-Jan-2008 17:35:37] <twm10101> chris: is your Zenoss server on stout hardware?
[15-Jan-2008 17:35:50] <chris_d> twm10101: Yup. Pretty major.
[15-Jan-2008 17:36:07] <chowmeined> rakATzenoss, When I do "model device", the DellDeviceMap is listed as being used.. but the service tag doesn't show up still
[15-Jan-2008 17:36:57] <chris_d> twm10101: Dual core Opterons running amd64.
[15-Jan-2008 17:36:58] <jb_> rakATzenoss: sorry, will send you that in one sec
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:04] <chowmeined> no, sorry.. it shows DellCPUMap and DeviceMap but not DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:11] <chris_d> twm10101: Oops, Opteron, singular.
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:15] <chowmeined> where would I add that back?
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:52] <rakATzenoss> asking around here, I'm told that there was an issue causing the dell service tag not to be pulled in versions between your older one and 2.1.2, but it was addressed.
[15-Jan-2008 17:38:07] <rakATzenoss> Let me search thru the bug database and see if I can track this down.
[15-Jan-2008 17:38:17] <chowmeined> oh ok
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:01] <rakATzenoss> so chris_d you want to turn off monitoring of sshd for all services then selectively enable?
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:29] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Currently, ssh is not being monitored on any machines.
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:36] <jb_> rakATzenoss: I emailed you an snmpwalk
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:39] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: I'd like to monitor the machines in a specific class
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:47] <rakATzenoss> great thanks jb_ .
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:53] <jb_> thank you
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:58] <twm10101> chris: without having to go add the "Service" to each device individually
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:00] <twm10101> right?
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:07] <rakATzenoss> right, so you'd like to disable all monitoring for sshd outside this class.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:11] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: twm10101 Yes, right.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:16] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Yes.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:21] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: That would work, too.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:38] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: And, to be clear, it's not so much monitoring sshd, it's seeing if the ssh port responds.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:49] <twm10101> right, TCP port monitoring
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:00] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: The problem is that these machines sometimes become so heavily loaded that there is a significant delay in their ssh response.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:03] <twm10101> the portscan done in the device modeling should have picked up the open port, and added it
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:11] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: We'd like a warning when that happens.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:30] <chris_d> twm10101: Yes, but it won't be "monitored", I believe.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:36] <rakATzenoss> right -- the device modeling would pick up any monitored service.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:46] <rakATzenoss> the default is to monitor.
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:10] <chris_d> I'm looking at one of the devices now.
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:16] <rakATzenoss> there's just no way to disable this auto-discovery of services globally.
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:41] <chris_d> I should see the ports being monitored under OS, right?
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:56] <twm10101> chris: if the port was open when the device was modeled, yes
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:08] <twm10101> SSH would have been picked up via the portscan
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:13] <rakATzenoss> the default service policy can be set at the service level.
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:27] <rakATzenoss> that is right chris_d
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:32] <chris_d> The port was open when the device was modeled, but there is nothing under the IP Service table under OS.
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:43] <twm10101> in my defaults SSH is not set as a "monitored" service, I had to go turn it on.
[15-Jan-2008 17:45:00] <twm10101> I just changed my SSH ip service to "true" under monitoring. I'm remodeling a linux machine, lets see if it adds it
[15-Jan-2008 17:46:20] <twm10101> nope, i had to go add it
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:05] <chris_d> twm10101: That's my experience, too.
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:21] <chowmeined> firewall?
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:37] <twm10101> no firewall here
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:40] <chris_d> chowmeined: Nope, or I wouldn't be able to ssh to these machines.
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:41] <chris_d>
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:14] <chowmeined> um, well we have ssh block on all but our range
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:19] <chowmeined> blocked*.. so
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:33] <twm10101> gotcha
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:34] <chowmeined> just an idea
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:56] <twm10101> its possibly port scanning only happens during initial modeling?
[15-Jan-2008 17:50:23] <chris_d> twm10101: Even so, the port was open during initial modeling.
[15-Jan-2008 17:50:48] <twm10101> ah ha!
[15-Jan-2008 17:50:51] <twm10101> hold on
[15-Jan-2008 17:51:33] <twm10101> re-modeling again, the portscan collector is not associated to /Devices/Servers/Linux
[15-Jan-2008 17:52:39] <rakATzenoss> jb_... email the service tag string -- I'm trying to find it in your snmpwalk output
[15-Jan-2008 17:52:44] <chris_d> twm10101: Where do I make that association?
[15-Jan-2008 17:52:46] <jb_> ah
[15-Jan-2008 17:54:11] <jb_> rak: done
[15-Jan-2008 17:54:26] <jb_> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.674.10892.1.300.10.1.11.1 = STRING: "6CF5M41"
[15-Jan-2008 17:54:55] <twm10101> Nevermind Chris, didn't work
[15-Jan-2008 17:55:08] <twm10101> I don't understand then how Zenoss discovers and adds IPServices
[15-Jan-2008 17:55:14] <twm10101> is it via the portscan collector or not?
[15-Jan-2008 17:55:53] <twm10101> well... one second, the "save" button has alluded me yet once more.
[15-Jan-2008 17:56:26] <twm10101> yep there we go, re-modeling taking a while now
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:00] <chris_d> Where does the port scan get associated with the class?
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:12] <twm10101> in the zProperties of the class
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:22] <twm10101> there is a collector plugins, a link to edit
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:34] <twm10101> before you waste your time, let my test finish
[15-Jan-2008 17:58:25] <twm10101> damn, SSH is still now showing up under IP services
[15-Jan-2008 17:58:29] <twm10101> *not
[15-Jan-2008 17:59:39] <chris_d> twm10101: I'm trying the same experiment.
[15-Jan-2008 17:59:40] <chris_d>
[15-Jan-2008 18:00:44] <twm10101> gonna hit the manual for a sec
[15-Jan-2008 18:01:16] <chris_d> So, there's an snmp.IpServiceMap and a portscan.IpServiceMap
[15-Jan-2008 18:02:17] <twm10101> bingo hold on
[15-Jan-2008 18:02:24] <twm10101> dont' do it yet
[15-Jan-2008 18:03:53] <rakATzenoss> jb_: do you see my messages in private chat?
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:07] <twm10101> the manual references something called zTransportPreference but that ain't there on my 2.1.1
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:33] <rakATzenoss> services are mapped both ways...
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:40] <rakATzenoss> by snmp and portscan.
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:58] <rakATzenoss> snmp being the "friendlier" way of discovering services.
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:13] <twm10101> Right, portscans are intrusive, you wouldn't want to do them all day
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:20] <rakATzenoss> that's right.
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:29] <rakATzenoss> makes netadmins jittery.
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:33] <twm10101> righto
[15-Jan-2008 18:06:04] <twm10101> Heres an example then: Right now my Zenoss server itself is running SSH, i remodel the device, but it does not show up under IP Services
[15-Jan-2008 18:06:27] <twm10101> under /Services/IP/Privileged/SSH I've set the zProperty for monitor for "true"
[15-Jan-2008 18:06:53] <twm10101> so anywhere its already associated, it is monitoring, but why wouldn't the re-model pick it up
[15-Jan-2008 18:07:14] <rakATzenoss> jb_ you there?
[15-Jan-2008 18:20:36] <twm10101> Hah... all the macworld blog website are getting slammed
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:06] <twm10101> even Macworld's webservers are slackin big time
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:24] <chris_d> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:28] <chris_d> Good coverage
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:32] <jb_> rakATzenoss: b ack now
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:34] <jb_> sorry
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:34] <adytum-bot> Title: MacRumors.com : Macworld San Francisco 2008 Keynote Live Coverage (at www.macrumorslive.com)
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:47] <rakATzenoss> ok jb_
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:50] <jb_> no, I am not seeing your msgs
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:02] <rakATzenoss> so the code is definitely in the DellDevice collector.
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:13] <rakATzenoss> and you're not seeing the service tag being grabbed.
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:15] <rakATzenoss> ?
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:41] <jb_> nope.. no service tag, hw make, hw model, os m ake
[15-Jan-2008 18:25:08] <twm10101> So where does that info come through? The O/S via OpenManage software? Or from the management NIC?
[15-Jan-2008 18:25:41] <jb_> the OS via OpenManage thru SNMP
[15-Jan-2008 18:26:00] <rakATzenoss> right.
[15-Jan-2008 18:26:11] <rakATzenoss> <the last option>
[15-Jan-2008 18:26:19] <jb_> let me try another box
[15-Jan-2008 18:29:15] <twm10101> gotcha
[15-Jan-2008 18:30:47] <rakATzenoss> jb_ -- have to step out for a bit.
[15-Jan-2008 18:30:52] <rakATzenoss> let me know what the other machines are doing.
[15-Jan-2008 18:30:56] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 18:31:11] <twm10101> I'm trying to figure out exactly what I need to load, as far OpenView/InsightManager goes, on each of these servers
[15-Jan-2008 18:31:28] <twm10101> is there a general "openview" package, or is it model specific?
[15-Jan-2008 18:31:46] <jb_> not sure about HP
[15-Jan-2008 18:32:00] <twm10101> i know for HP, at least in netware, there is one package
[15-Jan-2008 18:32:07] <twm10101> even for older Compaqs, its the same package
[15-Jan-2008 18:39:15] <jb_> hm, nothing still
[15-Jan-2008 18:40:00] <jb_> chownmein: here?
[15-Jan-2008 19:06:08] <phreekbird> twm10101, finished setting up (the major servers) with snmp ... so what do i need to do on zenoss to make it recongnize them? change the zproperties?
[15-Jan-2008 19:08:43] <twm10101> Did you give it credentials in zProperties?
[15-Jan-2008 19:08:52] <twm10101> in /Devices/Servers/Windows ?
[15-Jan-2008 19:09:05] <twm10101> i think they're near the bottom zWinUsername zWinPassword
[15-Jan-2008 19:09:51] <twm10101> im still developing my Zenoss box, i let it use the domain admin credentials, this isn't a good idea, but would work to show what zenoss can do, you should make a service account with certain rights granted to do this
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:10] <phreekbird> got a question about zenpacks
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:27] <phreekbird> they are rpms?
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:36] <phreekbird> how am i supposed to install them on debian then?
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:57] <rakATzenoss> install rpm?
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:06] <rakATzenoss> rpm is a debian package too!
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:09] <rakATzenoss>
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:12] <phreekbird> ok ok
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:24] <rakATzenoss> that's what I'd do...
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:41] <rakATzenoss> but, I understand some debian users don't want to use rpms.
[15-Jan-2008 19:55:41] <rakATzenoss> it's really up to the packager.
[15-Jan-2008 19:55:52] <rakATzenoss> You could also extract the contents of the rpm and install manually.
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:12] <rakATzenoss> anyone out there know if there's an rpm -> deb converter?
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:42] <phreekbird> yea
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:44] <phreekbird> its called alien
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:51] <phreekbird> it downst always work though
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:00] <rakATzenoss> yeah, that's what I'd suspect.
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:03] <phreekbird> something about folder structurs or something
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:04] <duncan> allright, I recompiled 2.1.2 on Debian and I'm not having the ZenHub service throw any more errors... however, my dashboard is empty with no options to add portals or anything..
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:16] <rakATzenoss> honestly tho, these zen packs are too complicated so it might work fine.
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:23] <rakATzenoss> what browser?
[15-Jan-2008 19:58:01] <rakATzenoss> duncan, you reviewed zenbuild.log?
[15-Jan-2008 19:58:08] <rakATzenoss> everything looks good in there right?
[15-Jan-2008 20:00:08] <duncan> rakATzenoss: looks fine yea
[15-Jan-2008 20:04:05] <duncan> rakATzenoss: looks fine, there is the occasional pointer target type error.. but I used the same dev environment to build a working dashboard on 2.1.7
[15-Jan-2008 20:07:23] <twm10101> I wonder now. Exactly which right do I grant to allow a user account to access WMI over the network
[15-Jan-2008 20:08:41] <duncan> I'm tailing the log files as well and when I access the page I can see the HTTP GET commands but no errors.. it's just a blank page for the dashboard =(
[15-Jan-2008 20:10:09] <duncan> chaching! cleared the browser cash..
[15-Jan-2008 20:10:28] <johns55> does anyone know if there is a way to integrate cacti into zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 20:10:42] <johns55> it'll be nice to monitor the bandwidth and data usage of a machine
[15-Jan-2008 20:11:09] <twm10101> johns: zenoss does this
[15-Jan-2008 20:11:17] <twm10101> go to the OS tab, and click on one of your network interfaces
[15-Jan-2008 20:11:22] <twm10101>
[15-Jan-2008 20:12:13] <johns55> i dont see a graph
[15-Jan-2008 20:12:28] <johns55> or any data
[15-Jan-2008 20:13:53] <twm10101> if SNMP is working it should work, it obviously modeled the interface, i can't tell you why its not trending it
[15-Jan-2008 20:15:09] <johns55> ahh ic it now, i clicked on the IP address instead of the eth0 name
[15-Jan-2008 20:15:22] <twm10101> there you go
[15-Jan-2008 20:16:07] <twm10101> hey RAK: you were a windows guy, heres a GPO question for ya, if you set a user right assignment in GPO to allow a right to a certain user, does it replace the local entry when loaded on the machine, or append it?
[15-Jan-2008 20:16:37] <jb_> rakAT: so do you know where I can begin troubleshooting?
[15-Jan-2008 20:17:01] <cpufreak> rakATzenoss: do you publish a schema, or DTD, or some form of specification for the object.xml used in zenpacks?
[15-Jan-2008 20:17:29] <twm10101> like say the local policy says "Administrators" can "Profile system performance", but in a GPO I have specified a domain user, does it then combine those to allow both .\Administrators and DOMAIN\user to do so?
[15-Jan-2008 20:18:54] <rakATzenoss> twm10101: replace
[15-Jan-2008 20:19:16] <rakATzenoss> what you find jb_?
[15-Jan-2008 20:19:21] <rakATzenoss> other machines doing the same thing?
[15-Jan-2008 20:20:07] <rakATzenoss> ah wait -- I see what you're asking twm10101.
[15-Jan-2008 20:20:17] <rakATzenoss> replaces.
[15-Jan-2008 20:23:25] <duncan> hmm, what would cause the cpu thresholds to go off if the CPU load is 0
[15-Jan-2008 20:24:47] <duncan> I'm getting a flood of events because of about 50 idle servers
[15-Jan-2008 20:26:05] <cpufreak> do you have low cpu utilization thresholds set... i.e. alert on idle by any chance?
[15-Jan-2008 20:27:03] <johns55> what does admin level mean? is 1 administrator?
[15-Jan-2008 20:28:17] <twm10101> makes sense now...
[15-Jan-2008 20:28:38] <twm10101> So I'm wondering, it might be a really good idea to get some official instructions on GP changes needed for the Zenoss winuser
[15-Jan-2008 20:29:25] <twm10101> i wonder if they already have anything for that?
[15-Jan-2008 20:32:38] <johns55> would it be possible to create a really restricted account for 1 of my clients to log in to zenoss to view his system graphs and not anyone elses systems? or is that too risky?
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:01] <twm10101> Johns, enterprise version only
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:04] <twm10101> pretty sure
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:20] <twm10101> ah ha, found the answer in a post on the forum!
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:21] <twm10101> :-D
[15-Jan-2008 20:37:53] <duncan> where do I adjust the cpu utilization thresholds.. I've been poking around for 5 minutes with no luck!
[15-Jan-2008 20:38:42] <twm10101> duncan: depends on the device class you are in
[15-Jan-2008 20:38:59] <twm10101> but its going to be under templates
[15-Jan-2008 20:39:09] <twm10101> Here's the forum post I'm looking at: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4193
[15-Jan-2008 20:39:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Another reason to NOT make zWinUser a Domain Admin (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2008 20:40:28] <duncan> is it possible to have zenoss send out xmpp notifications for events?
[15-Jan-2008 20:41:57] <twm10101> no idea
[15-Jan-2008 20:48:15] <rakATzenoss> duncan -- yes.
[15-Jan-2008 20:49:30] <rakATzenoss> bleh -- sorry duncan -- I misread -- zenoss supports smpp.
[15-Jan-2008 20:49:44] <rakATzenoss> I imagine getting it to support wouldn't require too much work tho,
[15-Jan-2008 20:49:53] <rakATzenoss> good idea for a zenpack!
[15-Jan-2008 20:50:06] <rakATzenoss> tie zenoss into your jabber infrastructure.
[15-Jan-2008 20:55:40] <cpufreak> rakATzenoss: um, any clue r.e. spec/DTD for the zenpack xml?
[15-Jan-2008 20:56:09] <rakATzenoss> I think it's just well-formed, but I'll check. please hold.
[15-Jan-2008 20:56:15] <cpufreak> or perhaps a way pre-import of validating it?
[15-Jan-2008 20:56:49] <cpufreak> I had to stop zope into debug the other day to clear out a broken zenpack.. as zenpack --remove + zenpack --list were failing
[15-Jan-2008 20:57:05] <rakATzenoss> yikes.
[15-Jan-2008 20:57:09] <rakATzenoss> not cool.
[15-Jan-2008 20:57:58] <johns55> man #zenoss is flying comparing to the crawl for the past few days =)
[15-Jan-2008 20:59:52] <cpufreak> I didn't so much mind, as its pretty straight forward to do it
[15-Jan-2008 21:00:26] <rakATzenoss> cpufreak: nope --I'm adding a proposal for it.
[15-Jan-2008 21:00:32] <rakATzenoss> good catch -- thanks.
[15-Jan-2008 21:00:49] <rakATzenoss> We should also fix the problem of removing a broken zenpack.
[15-Jan-2008 21:01:13] <rakATzenoss> jb_ still here?
[15-Jan-2008 21:02:24] <cpufreak> http://nurburgr.ing.me.uk/stuff/zenpackrm.txt is what I did to remove it.
[15-Jan-2008 21:02:38] <cpufreak> then removed the directory from the filesystem
[15-Jan-2008 21:02:47] <rakATzenoss> ah ok -- right.
[15-Jan-2008 21:03:46] <cpufreak> I'll dig up the errors I got prior using the zenpck utils quickly for you too
[15-Jan-2008 21:03:48] <cpufreak> if its anyhelp
[15-Jan-2008 21:04:14] <rakATzenoss> absolutely.
[15-Jan-2008 21:06:56] <cpufreak> http://nurburgr.ing.me.uk/stuff/zenpackls.txt
[15-Jan-2008 21:07:01] <cpufreak> is what a zenpack --list did
[15-Jan-2008 21:09:05] <Ron_DP> I have a question about Zenoss 2.1.2 installed on a Suse 10.3 box. Having a problem with binding a template to an interface. want to use the ethernetCsmacd_64 template on cisco interfaces to fix the gaps in my graphs as explained in the must-read thread I found. anyone have any ideas for me?
[15-Jan-2008 21:09:44] <Ron_DP> when I attempt to bind it the webbrowser freezes and nothing happens
[15-Jan-2008 21:10:02] <Ron_DP> using firefox latest
[15-Jan-2008 21:10:46] <cluther> Ron_DP: You can't bind templates to interfaces. They automatically use any template that has the same name as their "type"
[15-Jan-2008 21:10:56] <cluther> Ron_DP: This is why the template is called ethernetCsmacd.
[15-Jan-2008 21:11:12] <cluther> Ron_DP: If you want to use the _64 version simply copy it into the class for which this is appropriate and rename it to ethernetCsmacd
[15-Jan-2008 21:12:31] <Ron_DP> Ok thanks. looking at that. yes I am very new to the product and havent finished reading every single thing about it.
[15-Jan-2008 21:17:04] <Ron_DP> SWEET! thank you. that worked.
[15-Jan-2008 21:18:16] <Ron_DP> I read about changing the RRD polling interval from 5 minutes to 1 minute as well to further help with the problem. might anyone have a specific link to more information about how to go about this?
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:08] <jb_> rakATzenoss: sorry, im back!
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:23] <rakATzenoss> any luck?
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:26] <rakATzenoss> same result?
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:26] <jb_> nope
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:31] <jb_> tried a 2650, 1750 and a 2950
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:39] <rakATzenoss> and you've upgraded to 2.1.2 Core correct?
[15-Jan-2008 21:26:31] <rakATzenoss> I pulled the source for the DellDeviceMap -- it's definitely config'ed for the proper IOD.
[15-Jan-2008 21:26:32] <rakATzenoss> OID.
[15-Jan-2008 21:27:26] <jb_> yes
[15-Jan-2008 21:27:43] <jb_> 2.1.2
[15-Jan-2008 21:28:30] <jb_> is there anyway I can debug?
[15-Jan-2008 21:31:28] <twm10101> cluther: thankyouthankyouthankyou
[15-Jan-2008 21:32:30] <rakATzenoss> hmm.
[15-Jan-2008 21:32:34] <rakATzenoss> perhaps.
[15-Jan-2008 21:33:17] <rakATzenoss> try running zenperfsnmp -v10 -d deviceiporname run
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:20] <cluther> Ron_DP: Look at the Edit tab of your performance monitor under Monitors
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:31] <jb_> ok hm
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:32] <cluther> Ron_DP: That allows you to set your SNMP cycle time.
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:57] <cluther> Ron_DP: Bear in mind that you'll have to delete any previously created .rrd files out of $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/... so they can be recreated with appropriate step and heartbeat values.
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:58] <Ron_DP> cluther: Thanks.. sorry for the noobish questions.
[15-Jan-2008 21:35:29] <Ron_DP> they all just deleted anyways when I moved the new template in place so thats not a concern. thank you again!
[15-Jan-2008 21:35:47] <Ron_DP> I will go delete the rrd files as well.
[15-Jan-2008 21:39:05] <jb_> hm, no errors
[15-Jan-2008 21:40:27] <jb_> this is odd
[15-Jan-2008 21:41:19] <rakATzenoss> nothing at all?
[15-Jan-2008 21:41:23] <rakATzenoss> let's see that output.
[15-Jan-2008 21:41:31] <rakATzenoss> email it to me.
[15-Jan-2008 21:51:41] <jb_> sec
[15-Jan-2008 21:53:47] <jb_> Ok, sent.
[15-Jan-2008 21:56:17] <rakATzenoss> jb_, lets try the same again, only this time I'll tell you the RIGHT command to run -- sorry about that...
[15-Jan-2008 21:56:34] <rakATzenoss> run zenmodel -v10 -d <hostname> run
[15-Jan-2008 21:56:41] <rakATzenoss> send me that output.
[15-Jan-2008 22:00:15] <jb_> hah ok
[15-Jan-2008 22:00:49] <jb_> zenmodeler?
[15-Jan-2008 22:01:48] <jb_> Sent..
[15-Jan-2008 22:03:19] <jb_> well, now my CPU's aren't showing up!
[15-Jan-2008 22:04:26] <rakATzenoss> interesting.
[15-Jan-2008 22:04:33] <rakATzenoss> and your service tag isn't in there.
[15-Jan-2008 22:05:39] <rakATzenoss> DellDeviceMap is not getting called.
[15-Jan-2008 22:06:55] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 22:07:08] <jb_> that should be automatic?
[15-Jan-2008 22:07:16] <rakATzenoss> so the question becomes... what makes zenoss call DellDeviceMap.
[15-Jan-2008 22:07:22] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:19] <rakATzenoss> if you search, you'll see DellCPUMap and DellPCIMap..
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:24] <rakATzenoss> but no DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:40] <rakATzenoss> ah wait...
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:42] <rakATzenoss> there it is...
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:43] <rakATzenoss> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:condition failed zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap on BOX.DOMAIN.COM
[15-Jan-2008 22:09:32] <rakATzenoss> let's see what the condition is...
[15-Jan-2008 22:09:32] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 22:16:41] <rakATzenoss> ok.
[15-Jan-2008 22:16:47] <rakATzenoss> jb_ we have a solution for you.
[15-Jan-2008 22:17:00] <rakATzenoss> Install the DellMonitor zenpack.
[15-Jan-2008 22:17:10] <rakATzenoss> it replaces the DellDeviceMap that shipped with zenoss 2.1.2.
[15-Jan-2008 22:17:22] <duncan> hmm I keep getting heartbeat failures for a node that I deleted!
[15-Jan-2008 22:18:21] <duncan> I changed the name of the server zenoss is installed and now it's generating alerts for heartbeats of zenoss services using the old hostname... is this fixable? when I click on the node in the alert it takes me to a blank page
[15-Jan-2008 22:18:47] <rakATzenoss> The shipped DellDeviceMap has a bug that you're seeing.
[15-Jan-2008 22:20:49] <rakATzenoss> duncan -- go to Event Manager, click the menu dropdown and select "Clear all Heartbeats."
[15-Jan-2008 22:22:34] <duncan> rakATzenoss: thanks
[15-Jan-2008 22:25:22] <jb_> rakATzenoss: will try that, thanks!
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:50] <jb_> rakATzenoss: hm, I'm not sure its going to install properly because of existing objects..
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:50] <jb_> WARNING:zen.AddToPack:Object PowerEdge 1850 already exists skipping
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:50] <jb_> WARNING:zen.AddToPack:Object PowerEdge 1855 already exists skipping
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:51] <jb_> etc
[15-Jan-2008 22:45:58] <jb_> can we force this?
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:19] <rakATzenoss> no biggie...
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:30] <rakATzenoss> these are just products that the zenpack is trying to re-add..
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:52] <jb_> ok lets try to removdel
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:53] <rakATzenoss> it's cool -- just remodel a server once the zenpack is installed
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:53] <jb_> remodel
[15-Jan-2008 22:47:24] <jb_> hm, nothing
[15-Jan-2008 22:47:40] <jb_> plugins: zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.CpuMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap
[15-Jan-2008 22:48:31] <jb_> let me check the log
[15-Jan-2008 22:50:27] <jb_> ok, same error (condition failed)..
[15-Jan-2008 22:50:32] <jb_> I emailed the log if you want to check it
[15-Jan-2008 22:50:48] <jb_> im afraid that the zenpack didn't install successfully
[15-Jan-2008 22:53:39] <jb_> yeah.. no DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 22:56:39] <jb_> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:condition failed DellDeviceMap on BOX.DOMAIN.COM
[15-Jan-2008 23:01:15] <rakATzenoss> let's see.
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:21] <rakATzenoss> jb_ try restarting the zenmodeler daemon.
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:31] <rakATzenoss> do this as the zenoss user.
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:38] <jb_> ok sec
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:47] <jb_> remodel?
[15-Jan-2008 23:12:40] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[15-Jan-2008 23:12:41] <jb_> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:condition failed zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 23:12:52] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:24] <rakATzenoss> is it possible to restart zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:45] <rakATzenoss> or will that wreak havoc in your environment?
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:49] <jb_> nope
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:50] <jb_> sec
[15-Jan-2008 23:15:13] <jb_> hrm, same error
[15-Jan-2008 23:18:26] <rakATzenoss> ok, let's go to the zProperties for one of these Dell devices.
[15-Jan-2008 23:18:36] <rakATzenoss> find the property zCollectorPlugins
[15-Jan-2008 23:18:39] <rakATzenoss> click "edit"
[15-Jan-2008 23:19:18] <rakATzenoss> You should see a Collector called "DellDeviceMap" -- that's the name of the device map installed with the zenpack.
[15-Jan-2008 23:19:38] <rakATzenoss> the one that is broken is called "zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap"
[15-Jan-2008 23:20:35] <rakATzenoss> if you see both, remove the broken collector.
[15-Jan-2008 23:20:55] <jb_> I see three DellDeviceMap's
[15-Jan-2008 23:21:44] <jb_> I'm going to delete them all, and reinstall the zenpack
[15-Jan-2008 23:22:27] <rakATzenoss> wait a sec.
[15-Jan-2008 23:22:51] <rakATzenoss> delete them and redrag from the "Add Fields" list...
[15-Jan-2008 23:22:55] <jb_> done
[15-Jan-2008 23:23:03] <rakATzenoss> now save and remodel.
[15-Jan-2008 23:23:51] <jb_> argh, same~!
[15-Jan-2008 23:24:46] <jb_> hm, and this one definetely works?
[15-Jan-2008 23:25:08] <rakATzenoss> there is only one in the Add Fields list right?
[15-Jan-2008 23:25:20] <jb_> yeah
[15-Jan-2008 23:25:52] <rakATzenoss> then there's also zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap.
[15-Jan-2008 23:26:05] <rakATzenoss> just to be sure you have the right code,
[15-Jan-2008 23:26:50] <jb_> yep, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap is not installed..
[15-Jan-2008 23:26:56] <jb_> so it appears in the Add Fields box
[15-Jan-2008 23:27:52] <rakATzenoss> send me $ZENHOME/zenpacks/DellMonitor/modeler/plugins/DellDeviceMap.py
[15-Jan-2008 23:28:28] <jb_> "zenpacks" does not exist
[15-Jan-2008 23:28:37] <jb_> its in Products
[15-Jan-2008 23:29:04] <jb_> in /opt/zenoss/Products/DellMonitor/modeler/plugins$
[15-Jan-2008 23:29:46] <jb_> sent
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:24] <rakATzenoss> is this 2.1.2 enterprise or core?
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:26] <rakATzenoss> core right
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:26] <rakATzenoss> ?
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:34] <jb_> core
[15-Jan-2008 23:31:17] <rakATzenoss> ok -- send me that file.
[15-Jan-2008 23:31:29] <jb_> sent
[15-Jan-2008 23:31:56] <rakATzenoss> ok -- that file has the bug.
[15-Jan-2008 23:32:25] <jb_> the # ?
[15-Jan-2008 23:33:37] <rakATzenoss> ok. and the rpm you installed was DellMonitor-zenoss--1.0-el5-i686.zip from the /packs folder right?
[15-Jan-2008 23:34:44] <jb_> DellMonitor-zenoss-2.1.0-1.0-el5-i686.zip
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:10] <jb_> you dont think that it was skipped because it already existed?
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:15] <jb_> as the output of the zenpack install said?
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:17] <rakATzenoss> no.
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:20] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:43] <jb_> let me manually unzip and copy it over?
[15-Jan-2008 23:37:19] <jb_> ok the DellDeviceMap.py is exactly the same in that archive
[15-Jan-2008 23:37:56] <rakATzenoss> Is it possible you never installed the zenpack RPM?
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:17] <jb_> i just manually unzipped the zenpack
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:17] <rakATzenoss> it is separate and not included with the core rpm.
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:27] <jb_> (its a zip, not an rpm)
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:31] <rakATzenoss> it's a separately downloaded rpm...
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:33] <jb_> and the file is exactly the same
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:37] <rakATzenoss> no -- there's a zenpack rpm for ALL the zenpacks.
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:50] <rakATzenoss> it doesn't look like your zenpacks were updated.
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:57] <jb_> ah, I downloaded it from http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/dellmonitor
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:00] <jb_> sec
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:11] <rakATzenoss> you updated the zenoss core, but not the zenpack release.
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - DellMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:38] <jb_> ok installing RPM now
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:51] <rakATzenoss> cool.
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:53] <rakATzenoss> you found it.
[15-Jan-2008 23:45:50] <rakATzenoss> how' it going/
[15-Jan-2008 23:45:50] <rakATzenoss> ?
[15-Jan-2008 23:46:45] <rakATzenoss> wait -- I think I see the root of these evils.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:00] <rakATzenoss> I'm going to send you a zenpack file to install.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:35] <rakATzenoss> go ahead and let the rpm instsall complete.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:40] <rakATzenoss> and test... that might do ti.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:55] <rakATzenoss> jb_ did you pull the file from http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/?
[15-Jan-2008 23:48:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads (at dev.zenoss.org)
[15-Jan-2008 23:48:35] <rakATzenoss> I think you'll want: zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.2-0.el5.i386.rpm
[15-Jan-2008 23:48:53] <rakATzenoss> or zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.2-0.el5.x86_64.rpm depending on architecture of course.
[15-Jan-2008 23:50:05] <rakATzenoss> still there jb_?
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[16-Jan-2008 01:35:45] <jb_> raKatzenoss: thanks! it works now
[16-Jan-2008 01:36:30] <jb_> hrm, but my CPU's are not showing up under HW any more
[16-Jan-2008 01:38:29] <jb_> with zenoss.snmp.DellCPU it does though, so I will just use that
[16-Jan-2008 01:52:54] <jb_> where can I find a list of the attributes for each object?.. like to use setHWProductKey, etc in a plugin?
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[16-Jan-2008 13:19:53] <phreekbird> uhg
[16-Jan-2008 13:19:57] <phreekbird> mornin yall
[16-Jan-2008 14:54:30] <rfasenmyer> hello, i'm having an issue with zenoss and was hoping someone in here could help me
[16-Jan-2008 14:55:21] <rfasenmyer> i'm running zenoss in a virtual machine and after it runs for about a day the web interface is unusable and the command line respone on the host machine is very slow.
[16-Jan-2008 14:58:44] <klinstifen> i don't know - i don't use the vm version
[16-Jan-2008 14:58:47] <klinstifen> did you check the forums?
[16-Jan-2008 14:59:43] <rfasenmyer> i did not check the forums, i'll take a look at them now
[16-Jan-2008 14:59:44] <rfasenmyer> thanks
[16-Jan-2008 15:29:15] <klinstifen> when changing the line thickness for a graph nothing happens
[16-Jan-2008 15:29:20] <klinstifen> can anyone else confirm this
[16-Jan-2008 15:29:37] <klinstifen> changing it from 1 to 5 or even 50 does nothing...it still looks like a skinny line
[16-Jan-2008 15:32:50] <klinstifen> anyone know how to create a threshold that is a divisor of two datapoints?
[16-Jan-2008 15:33:09] <rfasenmyer> no luck in the forums
[16-Jan-2008 15:39:41] <klinstifen> rfasenmyer: i think i remember reading something about expanding disk space within the vm...not sure if it was because things were slowing down or if disk space was running out
[16-Jan-2008 15:40:35] <rfasenmyer> i beleive the vm is around 5 gb in size. is that not enough space?
[16-Jan-2008 15:40:58] <rfasenmyer> i'm only monitering 51 discovered devices
[16-Jan-2008 15:42:02] <rfasenmyer> i just checked the rpath and it says the rootfs size is 5.1 G and only 1.3G is currently used
[16-Jan-2008 15:43:47] <klinstifen> hmm well i guess that isn't it : )
[16-Jan-2008 15:48:06] <klinstifen> anyone know how to create a threshold that is a quotient of two datapoints
[16-Jan-2008 15:48:08] <klinstifen> ?
[16-Jan-2008 15:48:39] <klinstifen> looks like thresholds can't have math applied to them... is there a way to create a custom threshold?
[16-Jan-2008 15:52:30] <BrixWork> I believe ver 2.1.1 VM was only 1gb in size, the 2.1.2 vm is 5gb. I was having an issue with the 2.1.1 VM and disk space.
[16-Jan-2008 15:53:54] <rfasenmyer> i'm running 2.1.2-2-1
[16-Jan-2008 15:57:55] <rfasenmyer> is there some kind of log file i can referr to in zenoss that may let me know what is causing this?
[16-Jan-2008 16:04:17] <rfasenmyer> here is another question. where does the zenoss vm get its host name from. today the host name is a name of one of our users in the building.
[16-Jan-2008 16:08:23] <rfasenmyer> i checked the appliance agent and see that DHCP gave the computer it's name. i still don't understand how it arbitrarily picks a name. i have since made the setting manual so this should not be a problem any more
[16-Jan-2008 16:18:52] <jb_> where can I find a list of the attributes for each object?.. like to use setHWProductKey, etc in a plugin?
[16-Jan-2008 16:19:33] <jb_> i want to use a zenpack to set the "HW Make/HW Model"
[16-Jan-2008 16:19:38] <jb_> via an OID
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[16-Jan-2008 16:45:43] <pablo26> hi all
[16-Jan-2008 16:46:00] <rfasenmyer> hi
[16-Jan-2008 16:46:48] <pablo26> i have zenoss installed and its working pretty good, but i'm using httpMonitor zenpack and its sending out a lot of fake alerts (time outs) how can i make this more eficient
[16-Jan-2008 16:47:36] <pablo26> in nagios, if there was a failure it re schedule 3 more checks in less time and if all of them fails it will send an alert
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[16-Jan-2008 18:13:32] <klinstifen> can anyone confirm whether or not line width, in the graphs, works for them
[16-Jan-2008 18:13:43] <klinstifen> it does not work for me...the line always appears with a width of 1
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[16-Jan-2008 19:02:15] <jb_> anyone here using DNSMonitor?
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[16-Jan-2008 19:45:45] <johns55> im trying to model a distribution switch the cisco 6509 and getting a timeout when trying to model
[16-Jan-2008 19:45:47] <johns55> any ideas?
[16-Jan-2008 19:48:32] <johns55> WARNING zen.ZenModeler client 6509 timeout
[16-Jan-2008 20:00:22] <duncan> what would cause an event like this -- vmnic0 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1331.91 -- a misconfigured OID? shouldn't the max perc be 100?
[16-Jan-2008 20:01:25] <johns55> your nic is using 75% of its network bandwidth load
[16-Jan-2008 20:01:48] <johns55> usually people would want 75% so they can react to this before it gets out of hands
[16-Jan-2008 20:01:58] <johns55> 75% is huge
[16-Jan-2008 20:02:36] <duncan> right, I agree with the philosophy behind the threshold.. but why would it be reporting 1331.91% utilization?
[16-Jan-2008 20:04:02] <duncan> in fact, when I look at the interfaces through the device page, they list as ip address 0.0.0.0/0 -- I guess I can just unmonitor them and ignore the fact it's reporting incorrectly
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:00] <klinstifen> i think it's reporting the speed
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:03] <klinstifen> bits/sec
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:09] <klinstifen> duncan: not the percent
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:33] <klinstifen> anyone using the mysql zenpack?
[16-Jan-2008 20:21:52] <johns55> duncan: r u using gigabit?
[16-Jan-2008 20:22:00] <johns55> i might think your ethernet is 100/10
[16-Jan-2008 20:22:21] <johns55> yes im using it
[16-Jan-2008 20:24:09] <duncan> speed is listed as unknown, and the fact is says the interface is vmnic makes me think it's just vmware
[16-Jan-2008 20:50:28] <Immotep> Hello everyone, would someone help me (newbie) with a few problems?
[16-Jan-2008 20:51:06] <klinstifen> lmotep:i'm game
[16-Jan-2008 20:52:19] <Immotep> my biggest problem is that somehow zenoss does not match the ips it discovers with devices, so i cannot see the machines on network map
[16-Jan-2008 20:52:46] <Immotep> it discovers all the ips but then it says device "none"
[16-Jan-2008 20:53:32] <klinstifen> have you added any devices?
[16-Jan-2008 20:54:03] <Immotep> yes ive added 4 devices. plus there is one which zenoss detected automatically
[16-Jan-2008 20:54:58] <Immotep> example: i have 1 machine (godzilla, 192.168.111.1) - i see the ip in the network list. and i have the (manually added) device in the device list. but they are not matched
[16-Jan-2008 20:57:11] <Immotep> there is a hint in the faq concerning this, which i tried. outcome was that the ips are now in the device list. but they are still in the network list with device "none" and dont show up on network map
[16-Jan-2008 20:57:51] <Immotep> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#HowdoIloadalltheIPaddressesinanetworkasdevices <- this
[16-Jan-2008 20:58:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - FAQ (English) - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Jan-2008 21:03:10] <klinstifen> what ip does godzilla have in zenoss?
[16-Jan-2008 21:04:48] <Immotep> in device list the entries are - device id: Godzilla, IP: 192.168.111.1, Class:/Server/Linux ....
[16-Jan-2008 21:05:55] <klinstifen> when you go to network map what device or network is entered in the text box?
[16-Jan-2008 21:06:32] <Immotep> the default? always 192.168.1.0 (that would have been my next question, how to change that default)
[16-Jan-2008 21:07:10] <klinstifen> so if you manually type in 192.168.111.0
[16-Jan-2008 21:07:15] <klinstifen> does your network map display?
[16-Jan-2008 21:07:52] <Immotep> then i see the network cloud and one device (the only one that had snp activated by default - a kyocera printer)
[16-Jan-2008 21:08:09] <Immotep> snmp that is
[16-Jan-2008 21:13:09] <klinstifen> when you click on "networks" on the left-hand side
[16-Jan-2008 21:13:12] <klinstifen> what do you see?
[16-Jan-2008 21:13:54] <Immotep> i see the list of my 2 added networks, one of which is "192.168.111.0/24"
[16-Jan-2008 21:14:21] <klinstifen> did you add those manually?
[16-Jan-2008 21:14:34] <Immotep> yes
[16-Jan-2008 21:16:57] <klinstifen> hmmm
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:03] <klinstifen> i would delete both of them and your devices
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:09] <klinstifen> and then manually add a device
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:31] <klinstifen> the devices added thereafter should be added to the same network
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:55] <klinstifen> i haven't added any network's manually...they've all been added by zenoss when i add a device
[16-Jan-2008 21:19:19] <Immotep> ah ok. i will try that
[16-Jan-2008 21:30:16] <Immotep> hmm might take some time. deleting the devices made zenoss stop responding and load is now at 32
[16-Jan-2008 21:33:03] <klinstifen> hmmm
[16-Jan-2008 21:53:10] <Immotep> ok just restartet zenoss as it was hanging. manually added a device with ID 192.168.111.1 now but network list is still empty
[16-Jan-2008 22:07:23] <MoreDakka> Can anyone give me an idea on where I can find how to setup a remote monitor for zenoss? I can't seem to find it :-/
[16-Jan-2008 22:22:39] <jb_> anyone here using DNSMonitor?
[16-Jan-2008 23:25:32] <totoro001> Hey guys, not to be a bother but I just finished installing zenoss, and after it's installed and all started up, how do I begin managing it? I accessed the web portal by going to it's ip on port 8080, but it's asking me for a u/p which i can't find listed anywhere in the documentation.
[16-Jan-2008 23:27:09] <totoro001> Are there some sql scripts I have to run before this is useful ooorrr..
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:16] <jb_> its admin/zenoss
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:19] <totoro001> thanks
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:20] <jb_> and its in the docs
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:29] <totoro001> i've been digging around the admin guide for an hour x.x
[16-Jan-2008 23:39:43] <totoro001> i fail apparently
[17-Jan-2008 00:00:08] <jief-> hello. we're deploying zen 2.1.2 at work these days. And we get a lot of problems with misdetected interface speeds and false alerts because of them. What would be the best way of changing them manually?
[17-Jan-2008 00:00:19] <jief-> I know we get a lot of issues because of bugs in net-snmp
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[17-Jan-2008 00:00:28] <jief-> but for Cisco devices, we have issues only with some devices
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[17-Jan-2008 01:00:59] <johns55> anyone know how to change the time out of the modeler?
[17-Jan-2008 01:01:11] <johns55> i have a system with a lot of info and it would time out before it finishes
[17-Jan-2008 01:58:31] <eurowerke> anyone around?
[17-Jan-2008 02:00:09] <johns55> wzp my man?
[17-Jan-2008 02:03:30] <eurowerke> I changed the IP of my zenoss server
[17-Jan-2008 02:03:40] <eurowerke> now getting zenping errors saying the server is down
[17-Jan-2008 02:03:44] <eurowerke> with the old IP
[17-Jan-2008 02:04:18] <eurowerke> well, doesn't show component as zenping
[17-Jan-2008 02:04:27] <eurowerke> but eventClass /Status/Ping
[17-Jan-2008 03:07:49] <jb_> anyone know how to diagnose graphs that dont show up?
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[17-Jan-2008 14:14:32] <klinstifen> has anyone upgraded to 2.1.7?
[17-Jan-2008 14:43:29] <MuseHome> Where does zenoss get/store syslog messages from remote devices?
[17-Jan-2008 14:46:33] <MuseHome> I've looked in /var/log/ but don't see a syslog message that zenoss has in the gui.
[17-Jan-2008 15:17:42] <pvoccio> anyone using the reportmail function to send reports?
[17-Jan-2008 15:21:47] <pvoccio> I'm having an minor issue with the stupid thing.
[17-Jan-2008 15:21:48] <pvoccio> http://pastebin.com/m95e6924
[17-Jan-2008 15:22:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[17-Jan-2008 15:35:14] <twm10101>
[17-Jan-2008 15:38:39] <klinstifen> anyone using 2.1.7?
[17-Jan-2008 15:42:38] <klinstifen> i am getting an error about undefined symbol PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[17-Jan-2008 15:42:50] <klinstifen> when trying to start zopectl and zeoctl
[17-Jan-2008 15:42:55] <klinstifen> after upgrading to 2.1.7
[17-Jan-2008 15:49:13] <hotgrits> musehome: syslog goes into the MySQL events database
[17-Jan-2008 15:50:23] <twm10101> klinstifen: maybe it is still using the system python instead of the version that now comes with Zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 15:51:03] <klinstifen> twm: yeah i think you are right...just found a post in the forum that says that and how to fix it
[17-Jan-2008 15:51:28] <twm10101> I'm stuck on 2.1.1 right now, my appliance refuses to update to 2.1.2
[17-Jan-2008 15:53:45] <klinstifen> i skipped 2.1.2
[17-Jan-2008 15:53:55] <klinstifen> tried to upgrade to that and switch os's at the same time
[17-Jan-2008 15:53:57] <klinstifen> didn't work out
[17-Jan-2008 15:54:00] <klinstifen> waste of a week
[17-Jan-2008 15:54:46] <pvoccio> no reportmail users, eh?
[17-Jan-2008 16:06:07] <klinstifen> pvo: sorry don't know what that error is
[17-Jan-2008 16:06:18] <klinstifen> looks like something to do with python from the searches i've run
[17-Jan-2008 16:22:29] <klinstifen> moredakka: you here?
[17-Jan-2008 16:24:23] <klinstifen> anyone working with 2.1.? the watchdog keeps killing zentrap and zensyslog
[17-Jan-2008 16:56:28] <klinstifen> anyone know why the zenoss issues portlet would say something is down when the settings - daemon screen shows that it is up?
[17-Jan-2008 16:58:20] <chowmeined> immature code?
[17-Jan-2008 17:01:54] <klinstifen> : )
[17-Jan-2008 17:01:56] <klinstifen> could be
[17-Jan-2008 17:07:21] <eurowerke> those sort of issues are what I think should be detected quite easily with a decent test set
[17-Jan-2008 17:08:13] <klinstifen> what's the longest your zenoss box has gone without needing a zenoss restart of whole server/computer restart?
[17-Jan-2008 17:11:45] <eurowerke> well
[17-Jan-2008 17:11:59] <eurowerke> I restart mine sometimes just to see if it will fix something
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:04] <eurowerke> but i could keep it running
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:27] <eurowerke> probably a month or so I'd guesstimate
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:43] <klinstifen> hmm
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:56] <eurowerke> 2.1.2
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:10] <klinstifen> i am lucky of i can go a week without zenperfsnmp dieing
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:15] <eurowerke> dang
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:19] <eurowerke> same ver>
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:20] <eurowerke> ?
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:29] <eurowerke> i just ran into a problem
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:29] <klinstifen> was on 2.1.1 and just now updated to 2.17
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:32] <eurowerke> ahh
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:45] <eurowerke> i have it running on linux
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:50] <eurowerke> on ms virtual server
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:52] <klinstifen> what flavor?
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:55] <eurowerke> ubuntu
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:01] <klinstifen> version?
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:03] <eurowerke> 7 I think
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:09] <klinstifen> i am running ubuntu 7 too
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:12] <klinstifen> weird
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:32] <eurowerke> we just teamed the nics and created a trunk on the switch
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:51] <eurowerke> and now the linux guest can't snmpwalk the switches consistently anymore
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:55] <eurowerke> I can ping them fine usually
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:59] <eurowerke> sometimes not though
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:09] <eurowerke> but what's weird
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:15] <eurowerke> is that when I can snmpwalk on the command line
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:21] <eurowerke> I can also through zenoss command on the device
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:32] <eurowerke> but the monitors still say snmp is down
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:33] <eurowerke> bleh
[17-Jan-2008 17:16:36] <klinstifen> that is odd
[17-Jan-2008 17:17:14] <creining> i upgraded zenoss from 1.1.1 to 2.1.2 via RPM on rh5 and when i go to :8080 i get a zenoss site error msg, any ideas on how to troubleshoot
[17-Jan-2008 17:17:47] <eurowerke> reinstall
[17-Jan-2008 17:17:48] <eurowerke> haha
[17-Jan-2008 17:18:51] <creining> any helpful tips?
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:05] <eurowerke> i assume you've already tried restarting zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:05] <eurowerke> ?
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:20] <creining> uh, yeah
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:34] <creining> it ran the migrate script
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:54] <eurowerke> automatically?
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:03] <creining> yep
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:09] <eurowerke> hrm must be a feature on the new ver
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:16] <eurowerke> old versions didn't do that lol
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:36] <eurowerke> add /zport/dmd to the url
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:49] <creining> thats what it redirects to
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:55] <eurowerke> hmmm
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:03] <klinstifen> what's the error?
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:09] <creining> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist.
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:24] <eurowerke> run a zenoss status
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:34] <creining> i did
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:49] <eurowerke> that sounds to me like something with zope isn't running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:02] <creining> there's a few things not running, but i'm not sure if they need to be
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:19] <eurowerke> like?
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:22] <creining> Daemon: zenhub not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:22] <creining> Daemon: zenping not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:23] <creining> Daemon: zensyslog not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:28] <creining> Daemon: zenactions not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:28] <creining> Daemon: zentrap not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:28] <eurowerke> yeah...
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:38] <eurowerke> zenhub definitely needs to be running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:51] <eurowerke> what do the logs say?
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:13] <eurowerke> zenhub start
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:17] <eurowerke> then wait a minute
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:19] <eurowerke> zenhub status
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:23] <eurowerke> see if it stopped running by itself
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:33] <eurowerke> if so check the logs and see what they say
[17-Jan-2008 17:24:42] <creining> # /opt/zenoss/bin/zenhub start
[17-Jan-2008 17:24:42] <creining> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenhub: line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[17-Jan-2008 17:24:44] <creining> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenhub: line 20: generic: command not found
[17-Jan-2008 17:26:04] <creining> zenfunctions is in /opt/zenoss/bin
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:08] <klinstifen> do a more on /bin/zenhub
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:18] <klinstifen> does line 13 say . $ZENHOME/bin/zenfunctions?
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:27] <creining> yeah
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:52] <creining> i'm just going to change that
[17-Jan-2008 17:28:25] <klinstifen> to wha?
[17-Jan-2008 17:29:11] <creining> the correct path
[17-Jan-2008 17:29:34] <klinstifen> that is the correct path....unless your $ZENHOME isn't defined correctly
[17-Jan-2008 17:29:49] <creining> where is that defined
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:01] <klinstifen> it's in your zenoss user path
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:06] <klinstifen> as zenoss suer
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:09] <klinstifen> err zenoss user
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:12] <klinstifen> do this:
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:13] <klinstifen> cd
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:25] <klinstifen> more .batchrc or more .batch_profile
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:39] <klinstifen> sorry bash not batch
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:55] <klinstifen> in there ZENHOME is defined
[17-Jan-2008 17:31:12] <klinstifen> or you could just type echo $ZENHOME
[17-Jan-2008 17:34:44] <creining> whats the zenoss password
[17-Jan-2008 17:35:26] <creining> is that the mysql passwd
[17-Jan-2008 17:36:30] <klinstifen> as root you can just su zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 17:36:36] <klinstifen> or root-like user
[17-Jan-2008 17:36:55] <creining> no when you start/stop the zenoss services
[17-Jan-2008 17:38:37] <klinstifen> should be whatever you defined
[17-Jan-2008 17:38:44] <klinstifen> you could also do a /etc/init.d/zenoss stop
[17-Jan-2008 17:38:53] <klinstifen> as your normal root-like user
[17-Jan-2008 17:39:17] <creining> it won't source the correct bashrc then
[17-Jan-2008 17:41:18] <klinstifen> you could change the password of the zenoss user
[17-Jan-2008 17:41:23] <klinstifen> pwd zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 18:16:11] <jb_> i'm trying to figure out why the DNSMonitor zenpack is not working, is there a way I can see the actual check_dns command that it is executing?
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[17-Jan-2008 18:26:58] <klinstifen> jb_
[17-Jan-2008 18:26:59] <klinstifen> yeah
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:11] <klinstifen> click on your device and go to templates
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:19] <klinstifen> then the DNSMonitor template
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:32] <klinstifen> and it will tell you the path/command under the datapoints propertiex
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:36] <klinstifen> *properties
[17-Jan-2008 18:32:35] <klinstifen> or look in the $ZENHOME/Products/DNSMonitor/libexec folder
[17-Jan-2008 18:47:47] <twm10101> Anyone good at explaining how to setup event mapping/
[17-Jan-2008 18:47:50] <twm10101> ?
[17-Jan-2008 19:19:40] <jb_> klin: no check_dns command there.. under the datapoint properties
[17-Jan-2008 19:21:43] <tafryn> Hey channel, is there some documentation out there that describes how to get Zenoss to talk snmpv3?
[17-Jan-2008 19:25:36] <klinstifen> jb_: one sec
[17-Jan-2008 19:27:21] <twm10101> tafryn: i think its in the manual?
[17-Jan-2008 19:33:58] <jb_> hm
[17-Jan-2008 19:37:42] <klinstifen> jb_: check_dns is found at $ZENHOME/libexec
[17-Jan-2008 19:37:54] <klinstifen> do a ./check_dns --help from that dir
[17-Jan-2008 19:38:29] <jb_> right
[17-Jan-2008 19:38:36] <jb_> im trying to see exactly what paramters zen is passing to it
[17-Jan-2008 19:39:07] <jb_> i thought it would be in a log file, but I can't seem to find it
[17-Jan-2008 19:44:32] <klinstifen> well looking at the DnsMonitorDataSource.py
[17-Jan-2008 19:44:43] <tafryn> right, I've already set all the appropriate snmpv3 values, but for some reason I keep getting an error: "snmp agent down on device"
[17-Jan-2008 19:45:02] <tafryn> I can perform command-line snmpwalks with the same authentication information just fine though.
[17-Jan-2008 19:45:07] <klinstifen> it seems to pass hostname, dnsserver, and expectedIPAddress
[17-Jan-2008 19:50:46] <twm10101> search the forum?
[17-Jan-2008 19:54:58] <twm10101> Anyone else know where to set a proxy server environment variable for the Appliance?
[17-Jan-2008 19:55:11] <twm10101> I set it on the rAA page, but neither the rAA or Zenoss can get to the Internet
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[17-Jan-2008 20:46:12] <klinstifen> is there a way to grant ZenUsers access to network maps?
[17-Jan-2008 20:47:17] <klinstifen> was there someone in here asking about network maps, yesterday?
[17-Jan-2008 20:50:06] <tafryn> The manual mentions a zTransportPreference setting that can be changed to cause the modler to do a portscan. This setting is absent from the zProperties tab in 2.1.2. How do I make the modler do a portscan?
[17-Jan-2008 21:08:14] <jb_> argh, now my apachemonitor template is gone, and wont come back when I reinstall the zenpack
[17-Jan-2008 21:09:14] <jb_> thre we go
[17-Jan-2008 21:13:49] <jb_> ive messed something up.. zen error's out when I click the 'Perf' tab of every new device
[17-Jan-2008 21:13:59] <jb_> Type: AttributeError
[17-Jan-2008 21:14:00] <jb_> Value: speed
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:21] <eurowerke> ahh sonicwall
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:23] <eurowerke> suck my balls
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:23] <eurowerke> haha
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:33] <klinstifen> lol
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:55] <klinstifen> hey jb_ if you can't get it back to normal try deleting the zenhub-1.zec file
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:56] <eurowerke> found a bug in their firmware
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:57] <eurowerke> lol
[17-Jan-2008 21:16:34] <eurowerke> in talking to one of the support techs, I asked "could I have found a bug in the firmware?" he says "wouldn't be surprised" hahaha
[17-Jan-2008 21:16:50] <eurowerke> this would work better with a linux firewall
[17-Jan-2008 21:16:51] <jb_> klin: hm, whats that do?
[17-Jan-2008 21:19:41] <jb_> that didnt fix it :/
[17-Jan-2008 21:29:33] <jb_> ok fixed.. accidentally had ethernet bound to a group
[17-Jan-2008 21:38:48] <klinstifen> nice
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[17-Jan-2008 22:22:04] <jb_> hm
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[17-Jan-2008 23:19:53] <sbellows> is this the place for new users to ask zenoss questions?
[17-Jan-2008 23:34:37] <stefano_> hi!
[17-Jan-2008 23:35:15] <stefano_> someone can help me?
[17-Jan-2008 23:46:04] <johns55> is it normal have the zenmodeler run at 100% cpu usage?
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[18-Jan-2008 01:40:23] <eurowerke> w000 it works!
[18-Jan-2008 01:44:14] <eurowerke> heheh dang firewall rules
[18-Jan-2008 01:44:15] <eurowerke> blaah
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[18-Jan-2008 06:16:09] <ChuckF1> how do I start zenoss
[18-Jan-2008 06:16:40] <ChuckF1> I suppose it is a web qui using some port
[18-Jan-2008 06:18:11] <ChuckF1> anyone listening
[18-Jan-2008 13:36:18] <wam> I'm measuring page-response-time for some webservers. How can I use a Critical (unreachable) as downtime? I want "Availability" of that device to go down.
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[18-Jan-2008 14:52:29] <jb_> anybody here monitoring ESX 3.5?
[18-Jan-2008 15:39:18] <klinstifen> besides mibdepot.com what other sites offer mibs for download?
[18-Jan-2008 15:46:28] <jb_> I think thats the only one I've used..
[18-Jan-2008 16:16:41] <MoreDakka> So I want to create a bash script to run an http, telnet and ping. Then only error if all three fail, how can I get ${dev/manageIp} into the script when zenoss runs the script per host? Or is there a better way to do it?
[18-Jan-2008 16:26:26] <twm10101> anybody home?
[18-Jan-2008 16:33:58] <jb_> anybody using the mysqlmonitor zenpack?
[18-Jan-2008 16:34:09] <jb_> cant seem to find the zproperty for the mysql password
[18-Jan-2008 16:35:15] <twm10101> i would think it'd be diff for each device
[18-Jan-2008 16:35:29] <twm10101> its not under device/zprop?
[18-Jan-2008 16:36:38] <twm10101> does at least one of my bound performance templates need to check sysUpTime for it to be shown on the status page of my devices?
[18-Jan-2008 16:40:25] <twm10101> My uptime is unknown on all my windows servers
[18-Jan-2008 16:44:24] <klinstifen> jb_ i am using it
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:06] <klinstifen> jb_: since the password is different on my boxes, i had to make a local copy of the template
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:19] <klinstifen> then you go into the properties of that template and click on the datasource
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:32] <klinstifen> the password is specified under MySQL Password
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:39] <klinstifen> moredakka: i can help you with that
[18-Jan-2008 16:46:22] <klinstifen> moredakka: in your command datasource you would call your bash script and put a space and ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 16:46:41] <klinstifen> so like: /mypath/myscript.sh ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 16:47:14] <klinstifen> then in your bash script you would reference the IP by using $1 or $2 etc, depending on how many variables you pass
[18-Jan-2008 16:47:25] <klinstifen> example:
[18-Jan-2008 16:47:37] <klinstifen> echo "my first value is:" $1
[18-Jan-2008 16:50:18] <jb_> Ah ok
[18-Jan-2008 16:50:19] <jb_> thanks
[18-Jan-2008 16:50:52] <antiphase> `man bash`
[18-Jan-2008 16:52:32] <jb_> So.. after you have setup /Locations, how do you assign devices to these locations?
[18-Jan-2008 16:52:46] <jb_> Ah.. nm
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:19] <twm10101> Got it...
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:25] <twm10101> can't forget that datapoint in your templates
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:37] <twm10101> jb: you can do it when you add devices too
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:45] <twm10101> not just after the fact
[18-Jan-2008 17:05:48] <twm10101> Hey cluther, when i run zenmib to import a mib, and it barks about not having certain RFCs available, does it still add them correctly?
[18-Jan-2008 17:05:55] <phreekbird> got a problem with zenwin
[18-Jan-2008 17:05:57] <phreekbird> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[18-Jan-2008 17:06:06] <phreekbird> anyone know whats up with this? and how i can fix it?
[18-Jan-2008 17:06:40] <twm10101> phreek, its an authentication error
[18-Jan-2008 17:06:55] <twm10101> the username/password set for WMI is probably typed wrong
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[18-Jan-2008 17:08:21] <phreekbird> hmmm
[18-Jan-2008 17:08:28] <phreekbird> ok lemme go dig for that then
[18-Jan-2008 17:08:37] <phreekbird> thanks btw you have helped me a ton !
[18-Jan-2008 17:10:21] <cluther> twm1010: No.. it doesn't.
[18-Jan-2008 17:10:55] <cluther> twm1010: If they're RFC MIBs you should be able to find them in your /usr/share/snmp/mibs directory from your Net-SNMP install.
[18-Jan-2008 17:11:21] <cluther> twm1010: If you copy them into the $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site directory and re-run zenmib it should be able to resolve the dependencies.
[18-Jan-2008 17:12:09] <cluther> twm1010: If not, you should compare the name of the MIB that zenmib is unable to find with the name of the MIB you copied over. They have to match EXACTLY. I've seen situations where the naming conventions for these MIBs have not been consistent.
[18-Jan-2008 17:12:49] <phreekbird> ok i looked into devices /server/windows in zproperties, and i cant find where to stick the login/passwd info ... so where should i put it?
[18-Jan-2008 17:13:53] <phreekbird> only thing i see is zWmiMonitorIgnore = false
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:12] <cluther> phreekbird: zWinUser and zWinPassword
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:25] <phreekbird> ok i have those set to my admin acc
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:30] <phreekbird> so iknow they are correct
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:34] <klinstifen> prhreekbird: yeah, should be right above zWmiMonitorIgnore
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:42] <MoreDakka> So I want to create a bash script to run an http, telnet and ping. Then only error if all three fail, how can I get ${dev/manageIp} into the script when zenoss runs the script per host? Or is there a better way to do it?
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:57] <cluther> phreekbird: ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT always means the username is wrong. Are you using a local account or a domain account?
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:05] <klinstifen> moredakka: in your command datasource you would call your bash script and put a space and ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:12] <klinstifen> so like: /mypath/myscript.sh ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:25] <phreekbird> cluther, domain
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:30] <klinstifen> then in your bash script you would reference the IP by using $1 or $2 etc, depending on how many variables you pass
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:39] <cluther> phreekbird: Make sure the zWinUser is specified as "DOMAIN\Username" without the quotes.
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:43] <phreekbird> cluther, so should i add the username as domain\username ?
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:49] <phreekbird> lol k thanks
[18-Jan-2008 17:18:21] <cluther> phreekbird: Once you get that setup properly, move the WMI events to history so Zenoss will retry the connections.
[18-Jan-2008 17:18:52] <phreekbird> cluther, worked perfectly
[18-Jan-2008 17:21:06] <cluther> fantastic!
[18-Jan-2008 17:35:09] <eurowerke> cluther you around?
[18-Jan-2008 17:35:50] <eurowerke> I changed the IP of the server zenoss is running on, and now I can't get the zen* daemon failure messages to go away
[18-Jan-2008 17:37:05] <cluther> eurowerke: Choose clear all heartbeats from the menu in event manager.
[18-Jan-2008 17:41:28] <eurowerke> ahh
[18-Jan-2008 17:42:01] <eurowerke> also I may have found some issue, although I don't know if it's specifically zenoss
[18-Jan-2008 17:42:14] <eurowerke> could be the server or switch config
[18-Jan-2008 17:42:33] <eurowerke> I have my zenoss server running on an ms virtual server
[18-Jan-2008 17:43:39] <eurowerke> and I previously had the nics on the server operating independently
[18-Jan-2008 17:44:01] <eurowerke> I teamed them a week ago, and now snmp and pings fail randomly
[18-Jan-2008 17:44:27] <eurowerke> i had changed the settings in the virtual server to use the network team instead of an individual network card
[18-Jan-2008 17:45:17] <eurowerke> but still have the problem... it does seem that it would probably be an issue with the server net config and not zenoss, but occasionally I can ping and walk devices from zenoss but it still reports them as down
[18-Jan-2008 17:46:05] <jb_> hm, twm, I don't see a location field in the Add Device box
[18-Jan-2008 18:00:50] <twm1010> cluther: thanks for the replies
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:16] <twm1010> its there
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:18] <twm1010> hold on
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:34] <twm1010> see location path?
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:37] <twm1010> its a dropdown
[18-Jan-2008 18:03:24] <twm1010> I'm wondering how availability is calculated
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[18-Jan-2008 18:39:12] <cluther> twm1010: Anything in particular about it?
[18-Jan-2008 18:39:31] <cluther> twm1010: The short answer is in $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/Availability.py
[18-Jan-2008 18:39:36] <cluther> twm1010: specifically the run method
[18-Jan-2008 18:39:48] <cluther> twm1010: I'm not going to say it's obvious from looking at that though.
[18-Jan-2008 18:40:04] <cluther> twm1010: Are you running Enterprise?
[18-Jan-2008 19:00:35] <twm1010> No, I'm using Core
[18-Jan-2008 19:04:19] <MuseHome> anyone had the mySQL database run at 100%CPU?
[18-Jan-2008 19:04:57] <foo> MuseHome: What's your question?
[18-Jan-2008 19:06:05] <MuseHome> My zenoss install has starting hitting the database so much that the mysql is eatting 100% of my CPU
[18-Jan-2008 19:06:57] <MuseHome> there are only 6 queries running on the database.
[18-Jan-2008 19:07:45] <MuseHome> insert into status set Location='
[18-Jan-2008 19:07:45] <MuseHome> and 3 of "select severity, count(*), group_concat(eventState) "
[18-Jan-2008 19:08:22] <MuseHome> is there something I can reindex?
[18-Jan-2008 19:09:57] <foo> wow
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:05] <foo> hm, and if you stop zenoss from checking that it's fine?
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:14] <MuseHome> yep
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:22] <MuseHome> mysqld goes to 0%
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:36] <foo> that's weird
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:37] <MuseHome> and this is the only thing the systems is doing.
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:43] <foo> eek
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> %CPU PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> 164 9956 mysql 17 0 145m 31m 4856 S 1.6 29:24.50 mysqld
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> 17 10156 zenoss 15 0 51168 31m 2608 S 1.7 5:12.37 python
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> 16 10114 zenoss 15 0 109m 62m 4260 S 3.3 0:23.23 python
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:06] <cluther> How many rows in your status and history tables?
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:07] <MuseHome> 2 CPU system.
[18-Jan-2008 19:12:25] <MuseHome> other then a select is there a quicker way to get that?
[18-Jan-2008 19:12:35] <MuseHome> 214290 in status
[18-Jan-2008 19:13:13] <cluther> selecting the count is the only way..
[18-Jan-2008 19:13:35] <cluther> That's probably a lot of events for the standard MySQL InnoDB config.. have you done any tweaking of MySQL?
[18-Jan-2008 19:13:49] <MuseHome> nope
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:10] <MuseHome> 874335 in history
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:19] <twm1010> holy shnikeys
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:27] <MuseHome> 1 row in set (59.57 sec) to get that info
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:42] <MuseHome> ye the system is craming out. can reload pages.
[18-Jan-2008 19:15:15] <cluther> MuseHome: You need to check out this forum topic: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4628
[18-Jan-2008 19:15:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - poor performance (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Jan-2008 19:16:08] <MuseHome> ok well do.
[18-Jan-2008 19:16:20] <MuseHome> is the database not getting cleandup?
[18-Jan-2008 19:16:26] <MuseHome> or are things coming in to fast?
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:01] <cluther> Things are coming too fast for your MySQL config.. although a million events seems like an awful lot. Do you have a firewall logging to Zenoss or something like that?
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:32] <MuseHome> Yes and I just stoped zensyslog. becase of the load.
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:42] <MuseHome> but the database still seems to be running slow.
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:59] <cluther> Yup.. it has gotten too big for its britches.
[18-Jan-2008 19:18:54] <MuseHome> ok. one other thing the FWs where on in the systems yet.
[18-Jan-2008 19:19:11] <gwj002> Hey yall, I hate to interupt but does anyone know if there is an easy way to get a printout of a Network Map?
[18-Jan-2008 19:22:36] <klinstifen> ctrl-p?
[18-Jan-2008 19:23:47] <klinstifen> gwj002: right-click the network map and choose print
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[18-Jan-2008 19:26:17] <gwj002> I tried that it. It didn't work
[18-Jan-2008 19:26:34] <klinstifen> really? weird, mine printed
[18-Jan-2008 19:26:47] <cluther> Must be the version of flash..
[18-Jan-2008 19:27:04] <cluther> You could get a screen grabbing tool that supports selecting the box to capture.
[18-Jan-2008 19:28:13] <klinstifen> print screen, paste to paint or other default graphing tool?
[18-Jan-2008 19:33:46] <gwj002> Nevermind that works. It was just going to the wrong printer in the office. Silly me.
[18-Jan-2008 19:34:07] <klinstifen> lol
[18-Jan-2008 19:35:59] <q2srw77> Anyone really good with Event Manager - Commands. Using Winexe to automatically restart a failed service? I know how to automatically restart a single service. I'm looking to pull the device name and service name from the event to restart any windows service that fails.
[18-Jan-2008 19:38:15] <cluther> winexe -U '${dev/zWinUser}%${dev/zWinPassword}' //${dev/manageIp} 'net start ${evt/component}'
[18-Jan-2008 19:38:40] <q2srw77> you the man if that works
[18-Jan-2008 19:38:44] <cluther> I haven't tested that, but looks good to me.
[18-Jan-2008 19:39:31] <q2srw77> where can I find info on those commands. I've looked in the admin and dev guides online and didn't find much about it.
[18-Jan-2008 19:40:13] <cluther> There is an appendix in the admin guide that lists some of the most commonly used TALES expressions.. which is what the ${obj/property} stuff is.
[18-Jan-2008 19:40:37] <q2srw77> kewl I'll look again
[18-Jan-2008 19:41:07] <MuseHome> cluther: I was remove some of the history datas...... Query OK, 30570 rows affected (9 min 27.63 sec)
[18-Jan-2008 19:48:27] <q2srw77> YOU THE MAN - It works perfect THANKS
[18-Jan-2008 19:51:48] <cluther> Shocking.
[18-Jan-2008 19:53:14] <twm1010> heh, that looks like a very useful command
[18-Jan-2008 19:54:48] <klinstifen> kgoedte1: was it you that was working on an advanced Apache zenpack?
[18-Jan-2008 19:56:37] <twm1010> so winexe can remotely execute anything on the windows box?
[18-Jan-2008 19:58:30] <cluther> twm1010: yes
[18-Jan-2008 19:59:58] <twm1010> hrmm, so availability is a combination of different things
[18-Jan-2008 20:00:16] <twm1010> reason i'm working on this, is because it seems when i shut the zenoss server down, the availability of all my systems gets affected
[18-Jan-2008 20:17:32] <klinstifen> twm1010: that happens on two of my boxes when i reboot/shutdown zenoss. it always comes back online sayin my dc's are offline (yikes!)
[18-Jan-2008 20:17:56] <twm1010> hrmm
[18-Jan-2008 21:44:44] <jb_> any people monitoring AIX here?
[18-Jan-2008 21:56:46] <W8TAH> good evening everyone -- trying a zenoss install on ubuntu server 6.10
[18-Jan-2008 21:56:52] <jb_> does anyone's snmpwalk here support -p (port)?
[18-Jan-2008 22:00:54] <cluther> jb_: Nope.. I think you just have to do hostname:port
[18-Jan-2008 22:00:56] <cluther> with the colon.
[18-Jan-2008 22:31:43] <W8TAH> hi guys -- im at the stage of the install where i type ./install.sh
[18-Jan-2008 22:31:52] <W8TAH> on ubuntu 6.06 lts
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:07] <W8TAH> i got the error
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:13] <W8TAH> error 1
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:20] <W8TAH> dirname: missing operand
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:26] <W8TAH> how what?
[18-Jan-2008 22:58:34] <W8TAH> im giving up -- the build script keeps erroring out
[18-Jan-2008 23:02:37] <MuseHome> how long will zenoss keep something in the history?
[18-Jan-2008 23:04:30] <MuseHome> is that the "Event Aging Threshold" ?
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[21-Jan-2008 15:30:24] <duncan> ZenOSS is working great so far! I have a question if anyone is awake yet. My reports generate blank pages. And my discovery only seems to find devices that respond to ICMP. Can I switch zendisc to use SNMP instead?
[21-Jan-2008 15:49:47] <wam> I have a class /devices/www which performs a http call. I'd like the devices' status to be "down" if the call fails so that Availability shrinks. How can I accomplish that?
[21-Jan-2008 15:57:34] <twm1010> Anyone know if winexe plays nice with Windows2000 boxes?
[21-Jan-2008 15:58:59] <duncan> ZenOSS is working great so far! I have a question if anyone is awake yet. My reports generate blank pages. Also, my discovery only seems to find devices that respond to ICMP. Can I switch zendisc to use SNMP instead?
[21-Jan-2008 16:02:29] <twm1010> If your reports are blank, its not gathering performance data
[21-Jan-2008 16:02:46] <twm1010> which for windows, would mean the SNMP informant package is not installed
[21-Jan-2008 16:02:54] <twm1010> and for linux, it means net-snmp is unconfigured
[21-Jan-2008 16:03:12] <wam> I have a class /devices/www which performs a http call. I'd like the devices' status to be "down" if the call fails so that Availability shrinks. How can I accomplish that?
[21-Jan-2008 16:18:30] <duncan> twm1010: but all of the performance graphs show data
[21-Jan-2008 16:20:31] <duncan> another question: the modeler added monitored services to several servers which I do not wish to monitor. I removed them from the OS tab but it still shows up in the status tab and generates service down events constantly. how do I remove a monitored service from a single host?
[21-Jan-2008 16:33:17] <duncan> I can click on the service link in the OS tab and switch monitor to FALSE. However, the service still shows up on the node status page under the category "other" and is generating service down events constantly.
[21-Jan-2008 18:06:19] <duncan> ZenOSS is working great so far! I have a question if anyone is awake yet. My reports generate blank pages. Also, my discovery only seems to find devices that respond to ICMP. Can I switch zendisc to use SNMP instead?
[21-Jan-2008 18:06:28] <duncan> another question: the modeler added monitored services to several servers which I do not wish to monitor. I removed them from the OS tab but it still shows up in the status tab and generates service down events constantly. how do I remove a monitored service from a single host?
[21-Jan-2008 18:06:37] <duncan> I can click on the service link in the OS tab and switch monitor to FALSE. However, the service still shows up on the node status page under the category "other" and is generating service down events constantly.
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[21-Jan-2008 18:19:28] <jb_> anybody monitoring aix hosts?
[21-Jan-2008 18:32:36] <MoreDakka> How are the winservices monitored? Can those be monitored through snmp or does it have to be through wmi?
[21-Jan-2008 18:46:04] <duncan> I have some hosts that do no respond to ICMP, but I want to monitor them. I had to add them manually because autodiscovery relies upon icmp echo request. Now that they have been added and modeled, they are throwing up tons of events because they cannot be pinged. I set the zPingMonitorIgnore to True but I still get flooded with events saying the node is down, while it still replies to SNMP.
[21-Jan-2008 19:58:12] <MoreDakka> How are the winservices monitored? Can those be monitored through snmp or does it have to be through wmi?
[21-Jan-2008 21:03:23] <duncan> MoreDakka: I'm guessing WMI is needed to enumerate the list of running services. I have the SNMP daemon started on my Windows servers and they aren't reporting services or software.
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[22-Jan-2008 09:25:10] <wam> I have a class /devices/www which performs a http call. I'd like the devices' status to be "down" if the call fails so that Availability shrinks. How can I accomplish that?
[22-Jan-2008 09:50:47] <QuasiMofo> Hello I'm new to Irc
[22-Jan-2008 09:51:17] <QuasiMofo> I've recently installed Zenoss and would like some advice
[22-Jan-2008 10:00:18] <QuasiMofo> basically am trying to compile the UPS.mib into the system and am in a world of hurt, would love some help
[22-Jan-2008 10:21:35] <wam> This is a dead channel.
[22-Jan-2008 10:34:22] <cool^tom> Hi
[22-Jan-2008 11:23:36] <jls> hi....anyone in here know anything about zenoss-plugins
[22-Jan-2008 11:23:50] <jls> ?
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[22-Jan-2008 11:37:06] <jls_> register jls_
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:20] <jls_> register focodule
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:33] <jls_> oops
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:44] <jls_> nickserv> register focodule
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:50] <jls_> oooooops
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[22-Jan-2008 11:55:33] <wam> jls_: I'd change my password now if I were you.
[22-Jan-2008 13:21:22] <klinstifen> is there a way to move the NIC perf graphs to the general Perf tab for a device?
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[22-Jan-2008 18:48:39] <MoreDakka> What user do I have to run bin/zenbackup as?
[22-Jan-2008 19:28:13] <gepp> I am getting - Code: 1 - Msg: General error message when trying to use check_http for cert verifications. The event summary is showing the error, but the details tab is showing the actual Warning message. Has anyone experienced the same problem or have a quick fix for this ?
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[22-Jan-2008 20:10:54] <MoreDakka> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to know if zenoss is actually polling wmi data?
[22-Jan-2008 21:01:17] <johns55> ack for some reason i cant get the zenoss page up port 8080
[22-Jan-2008 21:01:23] <johns55> ive tried restarting zenoss too
[22-Jan-2008 21:04:14] <jb_> hrm, I can not figure out how to set the "HW Model" or "HW Make" for a device.. it looks like it was deprecated
[22-Jan-2008 21:04:18] <jb_> any developers here?
[22-Jan-2008 21:11:48] <johns55> anyone know how to restart zeoctl? you have to remove a pid?
[22-Jan-2008 21:13:09] <jb_> zeoctl restart?
[22-Jan-2008 22:53:54] <MoreDakka> If Zenoss isn't starting properly, what do I have to delete from the var dir?
[22-Jan-2008 23:06:40] <johns55> arg, for some reason i just added a ipservice smtp and zenoss is telling me its down when its not on the server
[22-Jan-2008 23:56:26] <QuasiMofo> anyone know how to sucessfully compile mibs?
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[23-Jan-2008 04:46:26] <QuasiMofo> exit
[23-Jan-2008 05:25:27] <rosscav> I'm a bit of a newbie to all this, and I seem to have an error with zenactions. If I type zenactions run I get the following error line:_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1054, "Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'")
[23-Jan-2008 05:25:57] <rosscav> anyone have any advice on how to fix this?
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[23-Jan-2008 14:59:55] <flea> hello
[23-Jan-2008 15:00:06] <flea> may i get a translation of this (install)
[23-Jan-2008 15:00:13] <flea> o run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>". See "man sudo_root" for details. /usr/local/zenoss from login shell is not the same as /usr/local/zenoss
[23-Jan-2008 15:03:47] <MoreDakka> If Zenoss isn't starting properly, what do I have to delete from the var dir to make it start properly?
[23-Jan-2008 15:05:58] <jb_> not starting properly?
[23-Jan-2008 15:06:31] <MoreDakka> Nope, first zopectl wasn't starting, managed to get that started by deleting all the pid files in the var dir, now zenhub won't start.
[23-Jan-2008 15:09:29] <flea> user zenoss - sudo -l gives all
[23-Jan-2008 15:09:38] <flea> but why can i not run ./install.sh
[23-Jan-2008 15:09:57] <flea> . /usr/local/zenoss is writable and owned by zenoss
[23-Jan-2008 15:14:06] <flea> . /usr/local/zenoss from login shell is not the same as /usr/local/zenoss -- quite honestly that doesnt make any sense
[23-Jan-2008 15:14:25] <flea> unless someone can explain that, but i can't install via install.sh because of that
[23-Jan-2008 15:17:45] <jb_> what OS are you running?
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:27] <flea> ubuntu linux
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:38] <flea> following the community guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:50] <flea> thx bot
[23-Jan-2008 15:20:13] <flea> i am working from ~/zenoss-2.1.2 (version also)
[23-Jan-2008 15:20:55] <flea> should user zenoss $home be /usr/local/zenoss ?
[23-Jan-2008 15:28:19] <flea> bleh, i think i found it
[23-Jan-2008 15:28:34] <flea> its some new msg i never seen until now defined in default bash
[23-Jan-2008 15:28:37] <flea> bleh, my bad
[23-Jan-2008 15:32:53] <flea> future note...
[23-Jan-2008 15:33:20] <flea> other ubuntuer's may possibly need to rem the section in /etc/bash.bashrc that echos that garbage
[23-Jan-2008 15:33:36] <flea> using ubuntu server ed 7.1
[23-Jan-2008 15:37:00] <flea> fixed for me
[23-Jan-2008 16:33:47] <klinstifen> has anyone created a custom portlet for the dashboard?
[23-Jan-2008 16:35:18] <q2srw77> Having some problems with a New Zenoss Install - ZenPing won't start and I get a Localhost zenmodeler heartbeat failure.
[23-Jan-2008 16:37:12] <MoreDakka> If Zenoss isn't starting properly, what do I have to delete from the var dir to make it start properly? I've tried the pid files but no go
[23-Jan-2008 16:39:28] <q2srw77> I don't have Zenoss in the var dir
[23-Jan-2008 16:41:18] <klinstifen> moredakka: try deleting the *.zec files
[23-Jan-2008 16:58:33] <klinstifen> anyone created a custom portlet for the dashboard?
[23-Jan-2008 16:59:42] <MoreDakka> Ahhh....thanks klinstifen....wasn't sure about the zec files but that cleared that problem up ;-)
[23-Jan-2008 16:59:58] <klinstifen> awesome, glad to hear it
[23-Jan-2008 17:00:24] <MoreDakka> How can I tell if WMI is polling properly?
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[23-Jan-2008 17:23:33] <MoreDakka> Anyone tell me why zenhub isn't starting and generating this error? http://pastebin.ca/869912
[23-Jan-2008 17:23:40] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 869912 (at pastebin.ca)
[23-Jan-2008 18:05:44] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[23-Jan-2008 18:39:07] <johns55> i have a problem with smtp showing it is down when it is running on the server
[23-Jan-2008 19:25:50] <klinstifen> anyone configured a custom portlet for the dashboard
[23-Jan-2008 19:25:59] <klinstifen> or created reports that can be emailed out daily?
[23-Jan-2008 19:43:35] <MoreDakka> haha, all three of us have questions that neither of us can answer.
[23-Jan-2008 19:48:26] <MoreDakka> Can anyone tell me what zWmiMonitorIgoner is? Is it just a spelling mistake from many versions ago and they keep forgetting to fix it? Since there is zWmiMonitorIgnore already.
[23-Jan-2008 20:13:39] <klinstifen> I would say typo
[23-Jan-2008 20:14:15] <MoreDakka> Does it do anything? It's been a typo since v1.1.1
[23-Jan-2008 21:01:09] <duncan> I'm trying to build a custom graph definition that calculates availablility based on uptime and downtime OID's and I'm completely lost.. anyone have any experience working with Zenoss's RRD interface?
[23-Jan-2008 21:11:50] <jb_> you need to create a datasource, then define the graph and datapoints
[23-Jan-2008 21:20:46] <twm1010> anyone good with the reports?
[23-Jan-2008 21:20:51] <twm1010> got a syntax question
[23-Jan-2008 21:24:49] <flea> hello channel members.... i have a non-zenoss question, but since this is full of net admin types, thot i might give a whirl
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:07] <flea> i am unable to have snmpd listen, although it shows running and no errors
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:16] <flea> if anyone has a direction to point i would appreciate
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:29] <MoreDakka> iptables?
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:35] <MoreDakka> hosts.allow?
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:43] <flea> no iptables , no blockage
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:51] <flea> snmpwalk on the same host fails
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:03] <flea> Timeout: No Response from localhost
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:04] <MoreDakka> community?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:10] <MoreDakka> version?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:16] <flea> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:199 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:19] <MoreDakka> heh, these are all guesses but the first place I would start.
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:27] <MoreDakka> port 199?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:28] <flea> 5.3.1-6ubuntu2.1
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:29] <flea> ya
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:40] <MoreDakka> snmp is port 161 isn't it?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:51] <flea> in my services file smux is 199
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:01] <MoreDakka> what is smux?
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:03] <duncan> jb_: I have a datasource created.. do I need a datasource for each datapoint? or can I define a single datasource for both the uptime and downtime.. and will I have to use some RPN to add the two together and divide by the uptime to get a percentage? before this was all done with OpenNMS and I had to create variables to use in the RPN.. with the front end I have no idea where to create variables or how to average the results of two datapoints
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:11] <flea> the service name
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:38] <flea> MoreDakka: ok, 161/2 are in services for snmp
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[23-Jan-2008 22:35:00] <q2srw77> Anyone know how to Disable Zenoss from pulling Windows Events Logs or only to pull Errors not warnings?
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[24-Jan-2008 14:03:14] <q2srw77> Anyone know how to Disable Zenoss from pulling Windows Events Logs or only to pull Errors not warnings?
[24-Jan-2008 14:30:20] <duncan> I'm trying to build a custom datasource that is tied to an OID that runs a script and returns 2 values, daily uptime and daily downtime.. and I want to calculate percentage availablility from this.. is there a good example of this anywhere in the internets?
[24-Jan-2008 15:03:55] <duncan> The two datapoints return the number of seconds each day of uptime and downtime.. so I am using RPN on my uptime to show: DailyUp,DailyUp,DailyDown,+,/,100,*
[24-Jan-2008 15:05:43] <duncan> I think I should change the two datapoints into custom definitions though.. will they still be able to reference the RRD file or will I need to specify the path?
[24-Jan-2008 15:07:06] <duncan> hmm what is the RRD datasource talking about? it defautled to ds0
[24-Jan-2008 15:15:31] <jsm> anyone write any advanced reports? i want to write reports that contain all the IPs for each box, services being monitored, what group they belong to, etc.. the manual is very sparse in regards to custom reports
[24-Jan-2008 15:36:24] <duncan> my reporting system is completely broken otherwise I would take a look
[24-Jan-2008 15:36:33] <duncan> just comes up with a blank page on all reports
[24-Jan-2008 15:44:00] <duncan> but good luck finding any help here.. it seems to be just a place to log your progress of troubleshooting and once a week or so you'll get a response to a question..
[24-Jan-2008 15:44:23] <duncan> at least there are forums to search! I can't say that much about OpenNMS
[24-Jan-2008 15:56:52] <jb_> does anyone know how I can populate the "HW Model/HW Make/OS Make/Model" on the status page via SNMP?
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[24-Jan-2008 17:01:31] <jsm> jb_: it does that when it models the device
[24-Jan-2008 17:01:50] <jsm> jb_: you usually need your hardware vendor's snmp extensions for that info
[24-Jan-2008 17:16:00] <duncan> I'm trying to add support for XMPP event notification. I can't find out if any of the groundwork has been laid for this type of feature, and if not.. where could I start for making a plugin?
[24-Jan-2008 17:16:42] <duncan> XMPP = jabber
[24-Jan-2008 17:51:45] <MoreDakka> What does WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping DEVICE has bad wmi state mean?
[24-Jan-2008 18:07:11] <q2srw77> Anyone know where to change the /Perf/Interface Threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded? I like like to increase the Threshold to 85%
[24-Jan-2008 18:55:50] <klinstifen> q2srw77: i know where
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:37] <klinstifen> browse to the device that owns the nic
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:43] <klinstifen> click on the nic
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:46] <klinstifen> then the template tab
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:53] <klinstifen> and then browse to the threshold
[24-Jan-2008 18:57:00] <klinstifen> change .75 to .85
[24-Jan-2008 19:09:53] <q2srw77> Thanks
[24-Jan-2008 19:20:52] <q2srw77> That worked. The only problem is that it wouldn't let me change the name from 75 to 85. So I just recreated the threshold and called it 85.
[24-Jan-2008 19:24:02] <q2srw77> I also had to remove 75 from the graph and add 85% as the Threshold
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[24-Jan-2008 20:00:04] <klinstifen> yeah sorry that's necessary too
[24-Jan-2008 20:09:41] <MoreDakka> Anyone here been able to get WMI monitoring going on a WinXP box?
[24-Jan-2008 20:10:02] <MoreDakka> Sorry the device is XP, the Zenoss server is CentOS
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[24-Jan-2008 20:12:12] <MoreDakka> Trying to get some winservices monitored but can't do that without WMI but can't seem to get WMI to monitor my test computer which is WinXP Pro
[24-Jan-2008 20:47:12] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I've never tried... maybe I should
[24-Jan-2008 20:54:05] <MoreDakka> We need to get WMI monitoring on our client's servers but want to make sure that it works so just testing with WinXP.
[24-Jan-2008 20:55:12] <felbane> Hi there, anyone not idle?
[24-Jan-2008 20:57:40] <felbane> ...
[24-Jan-2008 20:57:57] <felbane> Okay, well I'll ask my question and hopefully someone comes back :\
[24-Jan-2008 20:58:35] <felbane> I'm trying to configure ZenTrap to listen on a different port. I want to run snmptrapd on 161/udp and ZenTrap on, say, 10161/udp
[24-Jan-2008 20:58:55] <felbane> I see the zentrap.conf file, but it's empty and I don't see any documentation on it.
[24-Jan-2008 20:59:35] <felbane> The idea is to have only certain devices sending traps to Zenoss, and everything else is handled by snmptrapd/snmptt.
[24-Jan-2008 20:59:53] <felbane> Anyone know what the conf file directives are to change the listen port in ZenTrap?
[24-Jan-2008 21:10:29] <felbane> Anybody?
[24-Jan-2008 21:10:47] <MoreDakka> If I knew, I would help you out ;-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:10:57] <felbane> lol
[24-Jan-2008 21:11:13] <felbane> wtb ZenTrap documentation
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[24-Jan-2008 21:11:54] <MoreDakka> I want to get WMI working :-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:10] <felbane> omg I feel noobish
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:14] <felbane> zentrap genconf makes a config file with the default settings
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:23] <felbane> trapport 162
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:25] <felbane> lovely
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:30] <felbane> <- derp.
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:37] <MoreDakka> Least you found your answer :-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:45] <felbane> Indeed.
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:59] <felbane> You having WMI troubles, eh?
[24-Jan-2008 21:13:17] <MoreDakka> I know nothing about WMI so all that I'm doing is best guess.
[24-Jan-2008 21:13:31] <MoreDakka> Enabled the WMI service in WinXP Pro
[24-Jan-2008 21:14:22] <MoreDakka> entered an administrator's username/pw in zWinPass/User and made sure that zWmiMonitorIgnore is false.
[24-Jan-2008 21:14:35] <MoreDakka> Not sure what zWmiMonitorIgoner is so that is set to true.
[24-Jan-2008 21:15:56] <felbane> You using Active Directory, or no?
[24-Jan-2008 21:16:13] <MoreDakka> no
[24-Jan-2008 21:17:57] <felbane> Oh.
[24-Jan-2008 21:18:00] <felbane> Well,
[24-Jan-2008 21:18:25] <felbane> When we set ours up, we added a domain account that had admin privileges on each machine
[24-Jan-2008 21:18:54] <felbane> in your case, I think if you created local admins on each box you want to monitor, then set your user/pass, you should be ok
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:01] <MoreDakka> yeah that's probably going to be the idea when we get it going for the client, I want to see how WMI works before I start implementing things on their production network.
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:08] <felbane> Right.
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:35] <felbane> Granted, I ended up handing off the Windows monitoring component to someone else on the team
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:41] <felbane> so idk where she went from there
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:44] <MoreDakka> Yeah, that's what I have set right now, my username and password (admin on this machine) in the zWinUser/Pass and I don't get anthing.
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:45] <MoreDakka> haha
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:49] <felbane> lol
[24-Jan-2008 21:20:20] <felbane> you remodeled your box?
[24-Jan-2008 21:20:41] <MoreDakka> zenwinmodeler gives me 2008-01-24 09:10:29 WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping DEVICE has bad wmi state
[24-Jan-2008 21:22:32] <felbane> are you able to access wmi on the local box
[24-Jan-2008 21:23:07] <MoreDakka> yep
[24-Jan-2008 21:23:31] <felbane> same user and pass I assume?
[24-Jan-2008 21:23:55] <MoreDakka> That is correct. I'm just trying a different user cause my username has a space in it.
[24-Jan-2008 21:24:17] <felbane> hmm
[24-Jan-2008 21:24:37] <felbane> That shouldn't matter... the zWinUser should wrap quotes before being used
[24-Jan-2008 21:24:43] <felbane> then again, you never know
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:15] <felbane> the only zproperties we have set are zWinEventLog (True), zWinUser/Pass, and zWmiMonitorIgnore(True)
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:41] <MoreDakka> WmiMonitIgnore is True?
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:50] <MoreDakka> That doesn't make sense.
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:50] <felbane> yes
[24-Jan-2008 21:27:06] <felbane> That's just for Up/Down checks, I assume
[24-Jan-2008 21:27:25] <felbane> just like SNMP and Ping, that determines whether the device shows down when WMI is down
[24-Jan-2008 21:27:47] <felbane> with it set to True, the device will show UP, but you'll get a warning event in the log
[24-Jan-2008 21:28:03] <felbane> with that False, it will throw critical events if WMI is unavailable
[24-Jan-2008 21:28:13] <felbane> i believe
[24-Jan-2008 21:28:28] <MoreDakka> I thought that PingMonitorIgnore, SNMPMonitoIgnore and WMIMonitorIgnore was the actual polling settings.
[24-Jan-2008 21:29:31] <felbane> Only time I've touched those is when I know having that service down was OK.
[24-Jan-2008 21:29:37] <felbane> so it may be
[24-Jan-2008 21:30:07] <MoreDakka> But you have winservices being checked through WMI with that set to True, right?
[24-Jan-2008 21:30:25] <felbane> Yes.
[24-Jan-2008 21:31:38] <MoreDakka> What port does WMI work through, if I have IPTables on, what do I need to open up?
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:11] <felbane> Windows XP?
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:26] <MoreDakka> The iptables on the zenoss server are quite restrictive.
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:31] <felbane> lol
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:34] <MoreDakka> in/out.
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:48] <MoreDakka> well, not so much out.
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:50] <felbane> Any version of Windows prior to Vista, WMI is assigned ports by DCOM
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:03] <felbane> so it's random from a pool
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:14] <MoreDakka> but if a device is trying to send information back to zenoss....great...what do I have to open for that?
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:34] <felbane> well... DCOM uses... 1024-65535
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:35] <felbane>
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:44] <MoreDakka> hahah
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:49] <MoreDakka> that's MS for you.
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:54] <felbane> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndcom/html/msdn_dcomfirewall.asp
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:56] <felbane> that might help
[24-Jan-2008 21:34:22] <felbane> might be able to lasso WMI into a certain port range
[24-Jan-2008 21:34:42] <felbane> our stuff is all intranet, userspace, so no firewalls to worry about
[24-Jan-2008 21:34:47] <MoreDakka> Doesn't matter, I just shut iptables off and I get the same errors when trying to run zenwin manually.
[24-Jan-2008 21:36:16] <felbane> Yes.
[24-Jan-2008 21:36:33] <felbane> sorry, mistell
[24-Jan-2008 21:36:55] <felbane> hm... so upon further investigation, it looks like my teammate didn't finish what she started
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:22] <felbane> zenwinmodeler run -d device -v10 ends up with a Connection Lost error
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:27] <MoreDakka> DEBUG:zen.zenwinmodeler:Wmi Probs ['DEVICE'] when I try to run manually:-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:49] <felbane> Bleh.
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:50] <MoreDakka> haha
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:02] <MoreDakka> Looks like you have some work to do then ;-)
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:08] <felbane> Aye.
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:15] <felbane> Well, good luck to you
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:21] <MoreDakka> and you as well ;-)
[24-Jan-2008 21:42:45] <Brixius> Hello, I'm having a problem setting up events that clear other events that I just can't seem to work out. I have a device that sends traps, The trap is TelicaAlarm, now in that trap there are 2 fields(Varbinds) of intrest, one is the port name, and the other is port status. I need a port status of up to clear a port status of down where the port name matches.
[24-Jan-2008 21:43:09] <Brixius> can this be done?
[24-Jan-2008 21:43:33] <Brixius> and more importantly, if it can be done, how?
[24-Jan-2008 21:47:59] <Brixius> So for example I get a trap, telicaAlarm: Port ISDNIF-6070-LNK-6070 Status: Down
[24-Jan-2008 21:48:20] <Brixius> I wil get a matching telicaAlarm: Port ISDNIF-6070-LNK-6070 Status: Up
[24-Jan-2008 21:52:13] <Brixius> Anyone.... Anyone....
[24-Jan-2008 21:55:20] <Brixius> Is there anyone in MN(Twin Cities) who would want to do some paid consulting on Zenoss?
[24-Jan-2008 22:01:59] <Brixius> hmm, well let's open it up more, is there anyone who would do some paid consulting(Hourly) on zenoss(Using WebEx/Telephone)?
[24-Jan-2008 22:06:10] <q2srw77> Any ideas on why I'm getting <Server Name> zenwinmodeler heartbeat failure? The daemon keeps stopping on zenwinmodeler. I tired looking online for a fix and can't seem to find anything useful.
[24-Jan-2008 22:11:56] <q2srw77> NVM - I found the problem
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[25-Jan-2008 02:43:16] <ggong> hi, i'm new to zenoss.. i've gotten the system installed but can't seem to get process monitoring and filesystem monitoring to work
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[25-Jan-2008 07:26:21] <mf2ng> hmm, any1 care to explain how to use zenpacks, WindowsWMIDeviceTemplateV2 in specific?
[25-Jan-2008 07:26:47] <mf2ng> installation went good, but don't know where to start using. remodelling device didn't help
[25-Jan-2008 07:27:06] <mf2ng> am i stupid or what? =)
[25-Jan-2008 07:45:39] <aurax> hello
[25-Jan-2008 12:01:42] <mf2ng> problem solved, thanks you all for your priceless help! great channel!
[25-Jan-2008 15:18:22] <duncan> I have a question regarding the default ssCpuRawIdle_ssCpuRawIdle threshold returning 0.00 on about 50% of my servers. The servers are actually pretty idle, but why is this a problem?
[25-Jan-2008 15:19:31] <duncan> My event log is full of about 50 servers constantly getting an event for exceeding this threshold. I can turn off the threshold of course, but there must be a logical reason to include it in the default performance template.
[25-Jan-2008 15:43:47] <Gamekiller> good morning for those at PST time zone
[25-Jan-2008 15:44:49] <Gamekiller> i wanted to know how i could get hard drive used and freespace for windows box. i have snmp-informent installed and i see total drive space but not the brake out
[25-Jan-2008 16:11:39] <jy007> my question is that I have install vmware and ran Zenoss and it worked fine one time, I shutdown the server and closed vmware and now vmware and the Zenoss virtual machine work fine but I am unable to connect to the web console for Zenoss I get page can not be displayed
[25-Jan-2008 16:12:05] <jy007> I am going to the right IP http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080
[25-Jan-2008 16:13:34] <jy007> any ideas?
[25-Jan-2008 16:18:27] <jy007> can anyone help me?
[25-Jan-2008 16:22:43] <jy007> anybody home?
[25-Jan-2008 16:29:56] <linuxdave> hmmm if you do a netstat on the vm do you see it listening on 8080
[25-Jan-2008 16:33:39] <Gamekiller> talking about vmware do you guys know if there is a comminity irc support forum for it
[25-Jan-2008 16:34:15] <Gamekiller> i had a really funny problem with mine on windows as it would not work with load balancing on my 3 gig nic cards
[25-Jan-2008 16:34:45] <jy007> I don't see 8080 listed only goes up to 4660
[25-Jan-2008 16:35:41] <linuxdave> game.... dont know of any
[25-Jan-2008 16:35:52] <linuxdave> jy007 thats your problem... restart zenoss
[25-Jan-2008 16:36:00] <linuxdave> see if it then is listening
[25-Jan-2008 16:37:22] <jy007> will give it a try
[25-Jan-2008 16:39:56] <linuxdave> k
[25-Jan-2008 16:43:14] <jy007> I may have a corrupt downlod as the restart command gives error bd command zenoss
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:09] <stefano__> hi....!
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:22] <stefano__> someone can help me!!??
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:31] <flea> hi stefano__
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:44] <stefano__> hi flea
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:49] <flea> sup
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:49] <stefano__> i have a problem
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:54] <stefano__> with windows monitoring
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:03] <stefano__> can you help me?
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:07] <flea> describe your problem
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:19] <flea> i might not can help, but if someone sees your issue, they may be able to
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:31] <jy007> maybe I am typing the command wrong, zenoss restart
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:35] <stefano__> ok..when i add a windows device i can't see none information
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:43] <stefano__> about cpu, ram, swap etc...
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:05] <Gamekiller> what are you useing on the winbox
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:20] <Gamekiller> for the snmp agent
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:22] <stefano__> i'm using windows xp sp2
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:28] <stefano__> sotty
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:30] <stefano__> sorry
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:53] <Gamekiller> but did you install like snmp in the add component and snmp-informent
[25-Jan-2008 16:53:20] <stefano__> yes i've installed snmp windows default service
[25-Jan-2008 16:53:34] <stefano__> and i've installed snmp-informent
[25-Jan-2008 16:53:46] <Gamekiller> what do you see then when you walk device
[25-Jan-2008 16:54:12] <stefano__> i see some errors like
[25-Jan-2008 16:54:42] <stefano__> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for MANCA
[25-Jan-2008 16:54:58] <stefano__> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for MANCA
[25-Jan-2008 16:55:23] <Gamekiller> hmm i have not seen that one any one else in here
[25-Jan-2008 16:56:05] <stefano__> do you know what is cmd plugins??
[25-Jan-2008 16:56:14] <Gamekiller> let me walk my main server again see i can not get usage info i have total info but not that
[25-Jan-2008 16:56:41] <Gamekiller> see i get like total disk space but not the used or swap is my problem
[25-Jan-2008 16:57:02] <stefano__> i dont see anythink...
[25-Jan-2008 16:57:10] <stefano__> no process also..
[25-Jan-2008 16:57:24] <stefano__> with linux no problems...
[25-Jan-2008 16:58:03] <stefano__> i have to setting some user and password of windows in zenoss?
[25-Jan-2008 16:58:19] <stefano__> my windows machine doesn't have password...
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:12] <Gamekiller> i just installed the snmp wmi componet on windows
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:24] <Gamekiller> i going to try the communit zenpack that reads that
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:45] <Gamekiller> funny thing i get all the windows stuff like what patchs and service packs
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:52] <stefano__> sorry gamekiller
[25-Jan-2008 17:00:16] <stefano__> how can i install wmi components in windows??
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:40] <Gamekiller> it is one of the compants
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:46] <stefano__> ok
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:47] <Gamekiller> in add remove
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:55] <Gamekiller> i jsut found it on a wim
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:00] <Gamekiller> so i said why not lets try it
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:12] <Gamekiller> then i saw the zenpack that reads it
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:14] <Gamekiller> brb
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[25-Jan-2008 17:02:26] <stefano__> brb?
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:35] <GK_AFK> be right back
[25-Jan-2008 17:03:14] <GK_AFK> i just got a nasty little error when i tryed to add a proccess to the windows box in my zen site
[25-Jan-2008 17:03:32] <stefano__> ok...i just have wmi installed
[25-Jan-2008 17:04:01] <GK_AFK> when i get back i get you the full name brb
[25-Jan-2008 17:04:06] <stefano__> what is the zenpack that reads it brb??
[25-Jan-2008 17:10:20] <jy007> I am downloading another copy of the vmware version to see if I had a corupt download
[25-Jan-2008 17:13:48] <stefano__> zWmisuer and zWmipassword are related to windows?
[25-Jan-2008 17:14:35] <stefano__> Which username and password do i have to use?
[25-Jan-2008 17:19:37] <GK_AFK> hmm not sure
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[25-Jan-2008 17:20:36] <stefano__> sure of what?
[25-Jan-2008 17:20:57] <Gamekiller> that last line you posted
[25-Jan-2008 17:21:47] <stefano__> but you have used some windows password in zenoss or not?
[25-Jan-2008 17:23:41] <klinstifen> anyone using the httpmonitor zenpack?
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:05] <klinstifen> stefano_: you probably need to use a windows username and password that has access to the computer
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:13] <klinstifen> domain admin...or something like that
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:53] <Gamekiller> stefano__: where did you see the zWmiuser settins
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:59] <Gamekiller> setting*
[25-Jan-2008 17:25:01] <stefano__> if i haven't password i can left it blank?
[25-Jan-2008 17:25:34] <stefano__> in zProprieties
[25-Jan-2008 17:25:58] <Gamekiller> ok cool i have to look at that
[25-Jan-2008 17:27:40] <Gamekiller> has any one worked with the manufactures section on adding cpu classes
[25-Jan-2008 17:27:58] <Gamekiller> zenoss dose not detect my Xeon quade cores
[25-Jan-2008 17:36:03] <stefano__> i've insert my win user..
[25-Jan-2008 17:36:24] <stefano__> but i can't see some proprieties..
[25-Jan-2008 17:52:58] <Gamekille> why can i never find zProprieties when i need it but when i do not it right there
[25-Jan-2008 17:53:09] <Gamekille> i need to edit zProp for the wim
[25-Jan-2008 17:53:42] <Gamekille> found it
[25-Jan-2008 18:30:33] <twm1010> happy friday
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[25-Jan-2008 19:48:02] <stefano_> hi!
[25-Jan-2008 19:48:08] <stefano_> help please!!
[25-Jan-2008 19:51:30] <stefano_> i can't see anythink with windows machines...
[25-Jan-2008 19:54:06] <flea> how do i tell zenoss "network map" network to default to something other than the 192.168.1 ?
[25-Jan-2008 20:04:01] <Dexterous> herroo
[25-Jan-2008 20:04:32] <Dexterous> I'm having some probs getting this thing to work
[25-Jan-2008 20:05:58] <Dexterous> zenping wont run and when i try to view the Devices page on zport it gives me the error Type: OperationalError Value: (1033, "Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'")
[25-Jan-2008 20:06:13] <Dexterous> new install on ubuntu 7.10
[25-Jan-2008 20:28:25] <klinstifen> flea: click on preferences at the top-right and fill in Network Map Start Object
[25-Jan-2008 20:33:58] <flea> klinstifen: ty
[25-Jan-2008 20:34:53] <klinstifen> flea: np
[25-Jan-2008 21:03:26] <Dexterous> can someone please help me figure out why zenping keeps bombing out?
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:11] <flea> Dexterous: i saw your previous post.
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:22] <flea> Dexterous: did you ensure to set the setuid bit ?
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:37] <Dexterous> yea
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:53] <Dexterous> i reinstalled zenoss to fix the status.frm error
[25-Jan-2008 21:05:08] <Dexterous> but zenping will start up for a few seconds then shut down
[25-Jan-2008 21:05:17] <Dexterous> says something about traceback
[25-Jan-2008 21:05:54] <Dexterous> and zenhub is giving me this: 2008-01-25 16:03:19 CRITICAL zenhub: ZenPing 'ub710jeos.lan' not found, ignoring network topology.
[25-Jan-2008 21:12:28] <flea> Dexterous: i got nothing sorry
[25-Jan-2008 21:14:19] <flea> quick question, i'm trying to find on my own searches... but is zenoss capable of reading info from ms server snmp (ie win 2003)
[25-Jan-2008 21:18:36] <Dexterous> bah screw this, i'm just gonna use the vm
[25-Jan-2008 21:31:24] <Dexterous> what distro does the zenoss vm use?
[25-Jan-2008 21:32:30] <klinstifen> flea: yes
[25-Jan-2008 21:38:59] <Dexterous> thanks guys you were an amazing help
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[26-Jan-2008 03:10:11] <Gamekille> has any one seen any good docs on how to setup snmp wmi for windows server 2003
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[26-Jan-2008 04:33:41] <Gamekiller> so have i not see a clear way of how to use nagios plugins i see zenoss can us it but not how
[26-Jan-2008 04:33:47] <Gamekiller> anyone dose this
[26-Jan-2008 04:34:07] <Gamekiller> done*
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[28-Jan-2008 11:56:21] <pablo26> hi all, can someone help me with dependencies?
[28-Jan-2008 12:58:59] <pablo26> is any way manually set zenping dependencies?
[28-Jan-2008 15:43:55] <jb__> I have a device showing up in my "Device Issues" portlet that has no events.. how can I get rid of it?
[28-Jan-2008 15:44:43] <Gamekiller> i get that too
[28-Jan-2008 15:44:47] <Gamekiller> it a grey event
[28-Jan-2008 15:45:02] <Gamekiller> mine just goes away on its own
[28-Jan-2008 15:47:03] <jb__> well, I have one of those too, but in this case, there isnt even a grey event
[28-Jan-2008 15:47:26] <jb__> it shows zero events
[28-Jan-2008 15:50:33] <Gamekiller> yah that what i have
[28-Jan-2008 15:50:42] <Gamekiller> but i looked in to it all the way and it was labled grey
[28-Jan-2008 15:51:31] <Gamekiller> what type of device is it for you
[28-Jan-2008 15:51:54] <Gamekiller> mine is a color printer
[28-Jan-2008 15:54:40] <jb__> its a linux server
[28-Jan-2008 15:58:16] <Gamekiller> i have yet to get my linux server to add to zenoss lol
[28-Jan-2008 15:58:25] <Gamekiller> got all my win server just not my linux
[28-Jan-2008 15:59:04] <Gamekiller> i going to need to add my new webserver to it
[28-Jan-2008 16:23:48] <stefano_> hi
[28-Jan-2008 16:23:56] <stefano_> someone can help me??
[28-Jan-2008 16:29:37] <stefano_> please help
[28-Jan-2008 16:42:54] <Gamekiller> there some around
[28-Jan-2008 16:44:58] <Gamekiller> stefano_: best thing to do is ask the question and someone may just answer it
[28-Jan-2008 16:45:50] <stefano_> i have problem to zetting zwinuser...
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:01] <Gamekiller> aaaa you too
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:19] <stefano_> i give my user..
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:23] <stefano_> and password
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:23] <Gamekiller> what your problem
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:30] <stefano_> but i have this error
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:33] <stefano_> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:48] <Gamekiller> hmm not seen that one yet
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:52] <stefano_> i know it is for wrong user or password..
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:56] <stefano_> gamekiller
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:04] <stefano_> my user is stefano
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:10] <stefano_> in zwinuser
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:11] <Gamekiller> are you on a domain or user level
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:27] <stefano_> in user level
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:34] <stefano_> ./stefano ???
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:39] <stefano_> or /stefano
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:44] <stefano_> or stefano?
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:49] <Gamekiller> i mean on hte win comp
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:58] <Gamekiller> is that a server? workstation?
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:04] <stefano_> workstation
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:09] <Gamekiller> win what
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:23] <stefano_> windows xp sp2 professional
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:40] <Gamekiller> you installed the snmp componit
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:42] <Gamekiller> on it
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:47] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:04] <Gamekiller> how about the wmi snmp
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:05] <stefano_> if i click on perf tab i can see graphics
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:26] <stefano_> but i cant see information about os or hardware
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:29] <Gamekiller> well you are one step higher then me
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:39] <Gamekiller> did you install snmp informent
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:56] <stefano_> yes i've installed it..
[28-Jan-2008 16:50:18] <Gamekiller> i am getting all my os and hardware with out password
[28-Jan-2008 16:50:30] <Gamekiller> and username
[28-Jan-2008 16:51:03] <Gamekiller> now the windows machine is it on a domain or workgroup
[28-Jan-2008 16:51:45] <stefano_> workgroup!
[28-Jan-2008 16:52:35] <Gamekiller> the username and password has admin level i am assuming right
[28-Jan-2008 16:53:51] <Gamekiller> that you enterd in to zproperties
[28-Jan-2008 16:54:06] <stefano_> but what you put in zuserwin space?
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:04] <Gamekiller> i placed my domain admin account level info
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:11] <Gamekiller> that has admin access to the system
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:35] <Gamekiller> see i haveing a problem where i see no graphs at all
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:46] <Gamekiller> but i see all my hardware profiles and windows pachs and all
[28-Jan-2008 16:59:08] <Gamekiller> stefano_: when do you see the error just wondering see if i get the same thign
[28-Jan-2008 16:59:17] <Gamekiller> i have not seen it but i may be looking in the wrong place
[28-Jan-2008 16:59:30] <stefano_> look in events
[28-Jan-2008 17:00:04] <stefano_> so..where i can look about my domain admin account level??
[28-Jan-2008 17:00:35] <Gamekiller> well if you are on a workgroup you do not have one
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:07] <Gamekiller> that account name you have in zwinuser has admin access to the computer right
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:12] <stefano_> but i left blank i have the same errors
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:43] <stefano_> the computer is connected to a server
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:54] <Gamekiller> did you setup snmp on the windows client
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:54] <stefano_> i am working on the server
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:58] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:02] <stefano_> i'm on linux server
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:04] <Gamekiller> like the server and stuff
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:10] <Gamekiller> on the windows box
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:15] <stefano_> snmp is ok...
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:21] <Gamekiller> there is some setting you have to set snmp trap server
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:47] <Gamekiller> where to send the trap and what server has access to snmp on the windows box
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:49] <Gamekiller> not linux
[28-Jan-2008 17:03:03] <stefano_> snmp trap is ok...i've checked this and it's ok..
[28-Jan-2008 17:03:12] <Gamekiller> hmm odd
[28-Jan-2008 17:04:07] <Gamekiller> i have added 6 windows server to zenoss with out any errors like that but i can not see cpu usage nor hd usage at all
[28-Jan-2008 17:04:10] <Gamekiller> but i get the rest
[28-Jan-2008 17:07:47] <stefano_> i none..
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:02] <Gamekiller> odd
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:13] <stefano_> only graphs
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:19] <Gamekiller> i have yet to try it with a workstation
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:32] <Gamekiller> see we are totaly opisit to each problem
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:42] <Gamekiller> did the graphs just work for you
[28-Jan-2008 17:25:32] <Gamekiller> crap i for got my zenoss user password lol
[28-Jan-2008 18:31:59] <twm1010> Does Zenoss use SNMP Informant OID's just for performance? Or are these used in the modeling process as well?
[28-Jan-2008 18:56:28] <flea> hiya
[28-Jan-2008 19:03:54] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[28-Jan-2008 19:13:51] <twm1010> howdy
[28-Jan-2008 19:14:04] <Gamekiller> ok i have not yet seen a good update doc for just plain old linux. I am running ubuntu and i am at 2.1 and want to go to 2.1.2. any one see a good doc out there
[28-Jan-2008 19:16:08] <twm1010> i thought there was a built-in script for doing that
[28-Jan-2008 19:17:04] <Gamekiller> to update
[28-Jan-2008 19:17:09] <Gamekiller> if there is share please
[28-Jan-2008 19:17:18] <jb__> is it possible to have a alert schedule that send alerts only on the weekends, and one that only send during the week?
[28-Jan-2008 19:20:48] <Gamekiller> where did you see the script twm1010
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:15] <twm1010> search the forums
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:21] <twm1010> its a python script i know that
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:26] <twm1010> at least i remember it being one
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:35] <twm1010> jb___ sure? Why not?
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:40] <twm1010> Create two users, or two user groups
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:49] <twm1010> each with a different schedule, and identical alerting rules
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:56] <twm1010> i mean, i don't see why not?
[28-Jan-2008 19:41:55] <q2srw77> Getting some errors in my Event Console from /Status/RRD "RRD files not updated" It lists all of the device that were renamed with there old names. I've checked zenperfsnmp log for errors and don't see any errors. Ideas?
[28-Jan-2008 20:11:07] <Gamekiller> i am having a really hard time adding a linux server to zenoss i can not get the snmpd.conf file setup right
[28-Jan-2008 20:11:24] <Gamekiller> i can get a local snmpwalk but not from the zenoss server to the server
[28-Jan-2008 20:29:23] <Bulwinkle> Gamekiller: make sure you're accepting SNMP requests from everything not just 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 20:30:06] <wam> How can I make that a down of a http service is a down of the device? I want the availability to be dependent on the http service.
[28-Jan-2008 20:40:31] <wam> Is there a more responsive mailing list?
[28-Jan-2008 20:44:23] <stefano_> someone expert in zenoss??
[28-Jan-2008 21:33:36] <Gamekiller> ok Belwinkle i look in to that
[28-Jan-2008 21:34:56] <stefano_> hi gamekiller
[28-Jan-2008 21:40:30] <Gamekiller> hi
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:01] <Gamekiller> so yah i only see that the client server is only listening to it self
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:04] <Gamekiller> hmm
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:37] <stefano_> game i dont understand what you say..
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:59] <stefano_> i dont understand english very well...
[28-Jan-2008 21:43:00] <Gamekiller> sorry i am very bad speller
[28-Jan-2008 21:43:11] <Gamekiller> what do you speak
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:07] <stefano_> client server see itself and not other pcs?
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:16] <stefano_> italian!
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:30] <Gamekiller> sorry one i do not know how to read i spanish and english
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:35] <Gamekiller> i have itailian in my blood
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:36] <Gamekiller> hehe
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:51] <Gamekiller> no client server is not talking to zenoss server
[28-Jan-2008 21:45:04] <Gamekiller> as it is only listening to 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:04] <stefano_> do you abilitate snmp in all machines?
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:08] <Gamekiller> trying to get my first linux server to be added to zenoss i have a lot of printers ans switchs
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:23] <stefano_> eheh!
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:35] <Gamekiller> well that is the problem i never configured snmp on linux before
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:41] <stefano_> i work from few time in a software house
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:45] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:01] <stefano_> in linux there are services!
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:08] <stefano_> calle snmpd
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:20] <stefano_> called sorry
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:39] <stefano_> in your server is abilitates snmp?
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:57] <Gamekiller> i have added snmpd
[28-Jan-2008 21:48:11] <Gamekiller> just the snmpd.conf not so clear to me on how to set it up
[28-Jan-2008 21:48:58] <Gamekiller> still not going to work
[28-Jan-2008 21:49:16] <Gamekiller> not sure what i am doing on my .conf file that is wrong
[28-Jan-2008 21:49:33] <stefano_> write this command /etc/init.d/snmpd.conf start
[28-Jan-2008 21:49:43] <stefano_> snmpd.conf start
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:07] <stefano_> sorry
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:19] <stefano_> inly snmpd start
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:19] <stefano_> not conf
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:36] <Gamekiller> yah i done that after i edit the snmpd.conf file but it only listening to 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:02] <Gamekiller> did a netstat -an | grep -i udp
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:15] <stefano_> yes but you have to active snmp also in other devices linked to server..!
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:18] <Gamekiller> i get port 161 listing to 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:26] <Gamekiller> i know
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:46] <Gamekiller> afk
[28-Jan-2008 21:52:11] <stefano_> i dont know
[28-Jan-2008 21:52:26] <stefano_> you are monitoring windows machines?
[28-Jan-2008 21:54:36] <stefano_> ah!
[28-Jan-2008 21:54:47] <stefano_> game are you started mysql??
[28-Jan-2008 21:56:13] <Gamekiller> stefano_: i am trying to have zenoss monitor my webserver
[28-Jan-2008 21:56:31] <Gamekiller> the webserver is a ubuntu linux box
[28-Jan-2008 21:56:44] <Gamekiller> so is zenoss but zenoss it self is running just fine
[28-Jan-2008 21:57:30] <stefano_> yes but you must to activate mysql!!
[28-Jan-2008 21:57:49] <stefano_> write /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:11] <Gamekiller> not on the client system
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:20] <stefano_> in server!
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:48] <Gamekiller> like i said server is fine
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:59] <stefano_> yes..
[28-Jan-2008 21:59:20] <stefano_> but without mysql server monitoring nothing
[28-Jan-2008 21:59:45] <Gamekiller> monitoring it not the problem it is getting the snmp data from the client
[28-Jan-2008 21:59:57] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 22:00:07] <stefano_> infact
[28-Jan-2008 22:00:24] <stefano_> you can add another ip device?
[28-Jan-2008 22:00:28] <Gamekiller> it my setting with net-snmp that i need to set on a client as right now it not letting external connections
[28-Jan-2008 22:01:11] <stefano_> do you are monitoring what?
[28-Jan-2008 22:01:42] <Gamekiller> well on this client i need to monitor httpd and disk usage
[28-Jan-2008 22:04:25] <stefano_> client with windows?
[28-Jan-2008 22:04:51] <jb__> whats the problem gamekiller?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:08] <Gamekiller> i can not find the right config for snmpd.conf
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:17] <jb__> can you snmpwalk it locally?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:23] <Gamekiller> yes fine
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:26] <Gamekiller> just not remote
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:29] <jb__> what happens when you do it remotely?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:31] <jb__> it times out?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:35] <Gamekiller> yup
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:40] <Gamekiller> i did a netstat
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:49] <Gamekiller> on udp it bound to localhost
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:53] <Gamekiller> not to eth
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:00] <Gamekiller> or a network
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:08] <jb__> whats your com2sec line look like?
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:21] <Gamekiller> i copied that line for zenoss website
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:22] <jb__> stef: mysql has nothing to do with snmp..
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:36] <stefano_> jb when you finish with gamekiller can help me too?
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:51] <jb__> ask your question?.. people can't read your mind
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:56] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:59] <jb__> Game: paste it..
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:15] <Gamekiller> com2sec notConfigUser default public
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:32] <Gamekiller> that my com2sec line and the only one i comint out the rest
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:47] <jb__> and your access line?
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:57] <stefano_> i've setting snmp informant on windows, add permission to user and activated snmp and snmp windows service
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:24] <stefano_> i can see graphs in perf tab..
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:27] <jb__> Gamekiller: use this.. http://pastebin.ca/876581
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:33] <Gamekiller> is that the second one jb__
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:34] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 876581 (at pastebin.ca)
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:43] <jb__> Gamekiller: and make sure you don't have a firewall on the box that is blocking that port..
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:47] <stefano_> but i can't see os and hardware information
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:57] <stefano_> i have this error:
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:00] <Gamekiller> yah i know it dose not
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:06] <Gamekiller> it a webserver
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:10] <jb__> stef: what kind of server is this?
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:14] <stefano_> zenwin
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:14] <stefano_> /ÂStatus/ÂWmi/ÂConn
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:14] <stefano_> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:25] <stefano_> is a linux server
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:29] <stefano_> centos
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:31] <jb__> dell or hp?
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:38] <jb__> or something else..
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:53] <stefano_> i dont remember..
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:55] <jb__> stefano: you said it was a windows server
[28-Jan-2008 22:10:44] <stefano_> my server is linux
[28-Jan-2008 22:10:48] <jb__> stefano: you aren't going to get hardware stats without installing an agent that provides them.. such as Dell OMSA or HP Insight
[28-Jan-2008 22:10:54] <stefano_> but the client is windows...!
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:13] <stefano_> i think is authentification error..
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:16] <jb__> you need windows snmp + snmp informant + an agent from the vendor such as OMSA
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:31] <stefano_> omsa?
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:36] <jb__> dell openmanage
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:43] <stefano_> where i can found it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:03] <jb__> you dont even know if you have a dell server?
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:05] <stefano_> i have to install it on windows?
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:33] <stefano_> jb: it is a compaq machines
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:35] <jb__> its only going to work on supported dell servers..
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:38] <jb__> well then its not going to work.
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:58] <stefano_> jb i dont'understand
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:07] <jb__> if its a compaq/HP SERVER (not a workstation).. look for HP Insight
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:14] <jb__> its software that you need to install on the windows box
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:25] <stefano_> but it is a workstation...
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:32] <jb__> can't help ya then..
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:39] <stefano_> is a normal pc connected to the net
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:05] <jb__> bbl
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:13] <stefano_> bbl?
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:17] <jb__> be back later..
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:28] <stefano_> ok..thanks!
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:33] <Gamekiller> jb__ still samething but now local walk dose not work
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:35] <Gamekiller> dang it
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:46] <stefano_> game
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:03] <stefano_> can you explain me somethink
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:21] <stefano_> i cant monitoring normal workastation??
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:31] <stefano_> a normal pc!?
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:39] <stefano_> i dont understand
[28-Jan-2008 22:19:57] <Gamekiller> that odd
[28-Jan-2008 22:20:14] <stefano_> ???
[28-Jan-2008 22:20:32] <twm1010> Yes, of course you can.
[28-Jan-2008 22:20:53] <twm1010> But if you're wanting to hit that workstation at a hardware level.
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:26] <twm1010> like see if... the north bridge on the motherboard is running hot
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:37] <twm1010> Zenoss will need a MIB to understand those traps!
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:53] <stefano_> i have installed snmp-informant mib?
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:56] <stefano_> !
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:06] <stefano_> it isn't right?
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:13] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:21] <twm1010> no, SNMP informant gets data from the operating system
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:31] <twm1010> like CPU load, memory, logical volumes, etc.
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:45] <twm1010> so a machine with that loaded can monitor those things.
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:03] <stefano_> but i cant monitoring nothing..
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:14] <stefano_> no cpu or memory..
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:27] <twm1010> Did you install SNMP Informant and set the SNMP configuration on the Windows machine?
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:28] <stefano_> i can see only graphs in perf tab..
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:43] <stefano_> yes infact i can see graphs ok!
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:17] <stefano_> and when i add this device it says tham snmp is ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:23] <stefano_> only this error in eventd
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:25] <stefano_> events
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:49] <stefano_> zenwin /ÂStatus/ÂWmi/ÂConn ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88).
[28-Jan-2008 22:25:35] <twm1010> Well the graphs will generate sometimes regardless of whether its getting data or not.
[28-Jan-2008 22:25:46] <twm1010> You're receiving that error, because its also trying to get information from the machine through WMI
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:10] <stefano_> right??
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:16] <twm1010> If you're looking at the device in Zenoss, click the zProperties tab, and scroll all the way to the bottom
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:16] <stefano_> so what i have to do?
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:28] <twm1010> You will see entries for zWinUser and zWinPassword
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:33] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:39] <twm1010> put in the username and password of administrator of that machine
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:48] <stefano_> so this is problem
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:57] <twm1010> it could be contributing
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:03] <stefano_> i've setting this but without resoults
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:13] <twm1010> though you shouldn't need the WMI configuration to get the performance data
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:26] <twm1010> it almost sounds to me like SNMP informant was not installed
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:32] <stefano_> so i have to disable wmi from windows?
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:44] <stefano_> snmp is installed
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:06] <twm1010> You installed the SNMP Service through Add/Remove programs correct?
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:11] <stefano_> i had downloaded it from snmp informant site
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:36] <twm1010> and then downloaded SNMP informant and installed that
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:55] <stefano_> yes..i've done both!!
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:13] <stefano_> twm..i think is a problem of authentification
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:36] <twm1010> Then you went to your Services console on the windows machine, went to the SNMP Service properties, hit the security tab, and configured the community name, and allowable hosts
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:50] <stefano_> yes i did it
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:54] <twm1010> specifying your community, and allowing the zenoss server, or all hosts to query
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:01] <twm1010> sound right?
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:15] <stefano_> i set all host
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:18] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:28] <twm1010> and you set a community, was it read only ?
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:34] <twm1010> or are you using the default of "public"
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:54] <stefano_> yes i delete public and i insert my name community
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:12] <stefano_> no it is set read/write
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:17] <twm1010> thats fine.
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:22] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:33] <stefano_> now?
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:47] <twm1010> now, on the zenoss side, on the zProperties of the server
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:54] <stefano_> yes..
[28-Jan-2008 22:32:18] <twm1010> is your community there next to zSnmpCommunity ?
[28-Jan-2008 22:32:30] <stefano_> yes..!
[28-Jan-2008 22:32:58] <twm1010> and the windows username and password we verified earlier
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:08] <twm1010> Try restarting the SNMP Service on the Windows machine
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:24] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:51] <twm1010> Then, come back to Zenoss, click the triangular contextual drop down, go to manage, and choose model device
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:59] <stefano_> ok!
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:06] <stefano_> i've this
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:13] <twm1010> you've done all this?
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:41] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:44 INFO zen.Device device name 'MANCA' for ip '192.168.0.201'
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:44 INFO zen.Device setting status monitor to ['localhost']
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:44 INFO zen.Device setting performance monitor to localhost
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:45 INFO zen.Device Executing command: /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler run --now -F -d MANCA --weblog
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:53 INFO zen.ZenModeler starting collector loop
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:45] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:53 INFO zen.ZenModeler collecting for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:47] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:49] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:51] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap, DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.CpuMap, HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap, HPDeviceMap
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:56] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:58] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:56 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:00] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:56 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:02] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:04] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing DellCPUMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:06] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:08] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 ERROR zen.ApplyDataMap plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:10] <stefano_> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship changed = self._createRelObje
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:11] <twm1010> good, its getting the data
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:17] <stefano_> ok...
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:21] <twm1010> wait...
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:27] <twm1010> that last statement is a filaure
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:40] <twm1010> Ok, screw this. Delete the device
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:43] <twm1010> and re-add it.
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:46] <stefano_> yes i think also..
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:51] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:01] <stefano_> i have done this many times
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:11] <stefano_> but i have the same error message..
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:15] <twm1010> Are you using the Zenoss virtual machine download?
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:19] <stefano_> no..
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:20] <twm1010> or did you build a linux server for it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:29] <stefano_> a linux server centos
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:19] <stefano_> i've download the last version
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:36] <twm1010> Well the problem is going out of my knowledge realm here.
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:38] <stefano_> i have to use cvs or is it the same?
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:48] <twm1010> It's not your windows configuration, that is absolutely correct.
[28-Jan-2008 22:38:26] <twm1010> I would say maybe the Zenoss database did not get created properly, do any other pages load up similar errors?
[28-Jan-2008 22:38:42] <twm1010> settings pages, and such?
[28-Jan-2008 22:38:56] <stefano_> linux machines loaded are ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:09] <stefano_> it haven't this messages..
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:32] <stefano_> no other page whit this errors..
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:37] <stefano_> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship changed = self._createRelObject(device, objmap, rname) File "/o
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:37] <stefano_> pt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 308, in _createRelObject self._updateObject(remoteObj, objmap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 227, in _updateObject value.encode('ascii') UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe0' in position 61: ordinal not in range(128)
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:53] <stefano_> unicode encode error??
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:07] <twm1010> I can't be sure honestly.
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:16] <twm1010> It's probably something simple though.
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:34] <stefano_> do you use cvs download?
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:43] <twm1010> When generating reports, sometimes.
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:53] <twm1010> you mean CSV?
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:24] <stefano_> sorry
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:29] <twm1010> ah.... i see what you refer to now
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:31] <stefano_> svn
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:35] <twm1010> no, I'm not familiar
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:44] <stefano_> i had installed centos rpm...
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:48] <twm1010> I built my Linux system using the VMWare image
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:51] <stefano_> what do you use?
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:06] <stefano_> and do you use rmp?
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:12] <twm1010> no, it comes pre-built.
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:21] <stefano_> ah ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:28] <stefano_> i dont know what to do..
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:33] <twm1010> as an appliance, you just throw it on a VMWare host machine, give it 512 -1gb ram, and set the IP address
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:43] <twm1010> Are you just evaluating Zenoss? To see if you like it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:04] <stefano_> no..i have a project with a software house
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:13] <twm1010> Hrmm...
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:16] <stefano_> they wanted monitoring
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:30] <stefano_> all them machines of the net..
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:31] <twm1010> Well, post your problem to the community forum then. State that you have trouble modeling windows devices
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:36] <twm1010> and post the trace
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:42] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:43] <stefano_> thanks
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:46] <twm1010> and perhaps on the Zenoss admins will help you.
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:06] <twm1010> and hang out here from time to time, quite a few of them are in and out of here.
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:19] <stefano_> you think that i cant monitoring for this problem?
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:19] <twm1010> rakatzenoss is one, cluther is another, they're very good.
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:49] <twm1010> No Zenoss is up to the task I can assure you. I have it monitoring 10 windows 2003 terminal servers, an exchange server and about 15 other windows servers
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:10] <twm1010> It's helping us nail down and find a lot of issues with DNS, Active directory replication, etc.
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:26] <twm1010> It's good software, but it has an extremely steep learning curve.
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:31] <stefano_> so..i think that i have insert wrong zwinuser
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:51] <stefano_> can be??
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:11] <stefano_> when i go in wmi settings
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:25] <stefano_> i see that the users are
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:41] <stefano_> MANCA\Administrators
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:55] <twm1010> Thats a group
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:56] <stefano_> but there isn't password
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:05] <twm1010> you need to select a user
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:11] <twm1010> MANCA\Administrator would be fine
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:18] <stefano_> so i added a user
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:19] <twm1010> or just Administrator, if the account is not a domain account
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:27] <stefano_> MANCA\stefano
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:30] <twm1010> ok, but that user needs administrative privileges
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:34] <stefano_> and i set a password
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:45] <stefano_> yes i have set privileges
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:52] <twm1010> just put in stefano for now
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:02] <stefano_> .\stefano
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:06] <stefano_> or stefano?
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:12] <twm1010> try just stefano first
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:15] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:18] <twm1010> if that gives you grief try .\
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:30] <stefano_> yes i have did it
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:38] <stefano_> but i have the same mistake...
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:53] <twm1010> I don't think its an authentication issue myself.
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:00] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:04] <stefano_> so..
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:19] <twm1010> The script is clearly failing trying to store device information back into the zenoss database
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:21] <stefano_> but whi can i see graphs in perf tab??
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:25] <stefano_> sorry why
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:51] <twm1010> because enough data WAS stored to get it moving
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:23] <stefano_> twm sorry i dont understand what you said
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:25] <twm1010> Let's try something, out of curiousity. hit the manage menu, and rename the device
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:30] <stefano_> my bad english..
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:31] <twm1010> then try and model it again.
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:36] <twm1010> You're doing alright.
[28-Jan-2008 22:51:20] <stefano_> i no..same error
[28-Jan-2008 22:51:49] <stefano_> sorry..but i events i can see turn on and turn off pc...
[28-Jan-2008 22:52:02] <stefano_> when i turn on or of pc
[28-Jan-2008 22:52:10] <stefano_> the graphs are right
[28-Jan-2008 22:52:34] <stefano_> they are monitoring live what pc does...
[28-Jan-2008 22:53:29] <stefano_> so for zenoss authenification is ok..right??
[28-Jan-2008 22:56:51] <twm1010> The graphs are actually showing data?
[28-Jan-2008 22:56:55] <stefano_> yes!
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:03] <twm1010> Then what's the problem?!
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:19] <stefano_> i cant see hardware pc
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:27] <stefano_> or os information
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:27] <twm1010> What kind of PC is it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:36] <stefano_> a compaq...
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:40] <twm1010> OS information comes from the WMI modeling, which is what is currently crashing.
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:00] <twm1010> Hardware information will be whatever zenoss can get from the host-resources mib
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:33] <twm1010> If you've not installed any manufacturer based software that extends hardware information to the Windows SNMP, then Zenoss cannot pull it
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:48] <twm1010> Like Dell OpenManage, or HP Insight Agents
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:56] <twm1010> if this is a desktop PC, you may be out of luck
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:15] <stefano_> twm in snmp informant
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:29] <twm1010> SNMP informant is for performance data
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:30] <stefano_> before install snmp informant
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:32] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:35] <twm1010> and is made by a 3rd party
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:38] <stefano_> i have download this
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:04] <twm1010> if you're monitoring a compaq server, you need the Compaq/HP Insight Agents installed
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:15] <twm1010> zenoss 2.1.2 comes with some support to pull data from those agents
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:47] <twm1010> I can't stay any longer, I got off work 90 minutes ago. I'll be back here 7:00AM EST tomorrow!
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:50] <twm1010> good luck
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:58] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:59] <Gamekiller> is there an easy way to upgrade 2.1 to 2.1.2
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:10] <stefano_> i'm going to sleep
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:23] <stefano_> here are 12:00 am
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:27] <stefano_> !!
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:43] <twm1010> where are you?
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:47] <stefano_> italy
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:51] <stefano_> twm white
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:57] <stefano_> i,ve installed this
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:08] <stefano_> Live Wire dev
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:30] <stefano_> is a tool for identify mainboard
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:47] <twm1010> Ahh, but Zenoss is not setup to collect information from that software
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:57] <stefano_> ohhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:58] <stefano_> so??
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:02] <twm1010> You see Zenoss asks SNMP for information, but it has to know what to ask it for!
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:22] <stefano_> no........
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:23] <twm1010> It comes pre-built to get some data from SNMP Informant, and some Dell and HP softwares...
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:53] <stefano_> where i can find other pcs software?
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:57] <stefano_> like compac
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:01] <stefano_> acer..
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:02] <twm1010> www.compaq.com
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:02] <stefano_> asus?
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:05] <twm1010> www.acer.com
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:10] <twm1010> its all manufacturer support
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:23] <stefano_> it comes with default driver?
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:28] <twm1010> the manufacturer needs to provide SNMP support via mibs and system extensions...
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:34] <stefano_> ok ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:36] <stefano_> thanks!!
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:40] <twm1010> Zenoss can only gather data if the client system knows about it.
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:47] <KillMeNow> you all have any good docs on how to properly set up services monitoring and alerting? like service goes down, zenoss pops an email
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:56] <twm1010> Thats why you need SNMP informant?
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:05] <twm1010> KillMeNow: did you try the manual?
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:11] <twm1010> Its long and boring, but its in there.
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:14] <KillMeNow> what? RTFM?
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:19] <KillMeNow> tell me it's not so!
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:19] <twm1010>
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:30] <stefano_> so i cant use snmp informant??
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:34] <KillMeNow> yea, been looking at it and TBH, i'm not getting it
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:46] <stefano_> but i can also use snmp of manufacturer??
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:49] <KillMeNow> was hoping someone has a simple, step by step walk through
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:57] <KillMeNow> so i can see how it works
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:02] <stefano_> without informant?
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:10] <twm1010> stefano: SNMP informant has a specific purpose, so that Zenoss can monitor CPU, Memory, and disk utilization of Windows systems.
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:26] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:27] <twm1010> it is used for nothing else, not to get the speed of the CPUs or the temperature of them, or anyhting else like that
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:34] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:38] <twm1010> it is in there for PERFORMANCE
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:44] <KillMeNow> there is an add on that can get you the temp / cpu fan speed etc as well, but can't remember the name
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:04] <twm1010> if you want it to model hardware, then you the hardware manufacturer must provide you MIBS, and SNMP extensions for the host OS
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:05] <KillMeNow> of course, you need to know the manufacturer of the mother board
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:07] <stefano_> but if i cant see disk utilization or memory there are some problems..rights?
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:29] <stefano_> i speak with snmp informant
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:34] <KillMeNow> if memory usage (paging) stays high for X number of minute perhaps
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:44] <twm1010> Yes stefano, you can't see those things because while your WMI authentication is good, your WMI modeling of the server is not working correctly.
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:53] <twm1010> post your issue to the forum
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:54] <KillMeNow> ok, AFK a moment
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:57] <KillMeNow> back in a few
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:59] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:08:07] <stefano_> thanks twm
[28-Jan-2008 23:08:11] <stefano_> see you!!
[28-Jan-2008 23:08:13] <twm1010> KillMeNow, i'll jump on from home in an hour, i'll see i can help you.
[28-Jan-2008 23:10:00] <flea> is snmp the only means of discovery for core 2.1 ?
[28-Jan-2008 23:23:41] <kinections> how does zenoss handle dual boot systems?
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:12] <flea> how would zenoss know about the other os ?
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:18] <KillMeNow> thanks TWM
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:20] <flea> only if its running right
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:35] <KillMeNow> talk to you in a bit
[28-Jan-2008 23:25:00] <kinections> flea: what do you mean?
[28-Jan-2008 23:25:12] <flea> kinections: what do .you. mean?
[28-Jan-2008 23:26:07] <kinections> flea: well, i'm wondering if zenoss could monitor a computer lab and watch for logins and such. Some of the machines are dual boot, so I'm wondering if it would show that as two seperate machines or one machine.
[28-Jan-2008 23:27:29] <flea> kinections: i see, well, they should have two different snmp feedback but i don't know how it would report
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[29-Jan-2008 01:09:33] <KillMeNow> twm1010, you around?
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[29-Jan-2008 13:15:04] <twm1010> conary is evil :|
[29-Jan-2008 13:15:13] <twm1010> anyone good with linux and proxies?
[29-Jan-2008 13:56:15] <twm1010> nevermind... got it
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:32] <stefano_> i've this error when i add a device
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:36] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 ERROR zen.ApplyDataMap plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device MANCA
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:36] <stefano_> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship changed = self._createRel
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:36] <stefano_> Object(device, objmap, rname) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 308, in _createRelObject self._updateObject(remoteObj, objmap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 227, in _updateObject value.encode('ascii') UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe0' in position 61: ordinal not in range(128)
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:39] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ZenModeler scan time: 4.95 seconds
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:43] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ZenModeler stopping...
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:45] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:36:00 INFO zen.DeviceLoader
[29-Jan-2008 14:06:21] <stefano_> someone can help me?
[29-Jan-2008 14:06:59] <q2srw77> Getting some errors in my Event Console from /Status/RRD "RRD files not updated" It lists all of the device that were renamed with there old names. I've checked zenperfsnmp log for errors and don't see any errors. Ideas?
[29-Jan-2008 14:55:13] <jb__> hrm, I am trying to change the severity of "SNMP agent down/up" events, but can't seem to locate the actual event. it says it is mapped to /Status/SNMP, but when I browse here, there are no events
[29-Jan-2008 15:18:11] <q2srw77> You should be able to change the zProperties on the /Status/SNMP and make the zEventSeverity what you want it to be. You can also use Map Events to Class in Event Console.
[29-Jan-2008 15:18:59] <q2srw77> Select the event and then Map Event to Class /Status/SNMP - Now when you go into /status/snmp you'll see the event and change change it
[29-Jan-2008 15:32:38] <jb__> ah its in the zprops
[29-Jan-2008 15:32:40] <jb__> thanks
[29-Jan-2008 15:43:04] <jb__> now, I just need to get rid of this stale event in the "Device Issues" portlet.. it says 0 events but it still stays there
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[29-Jan-2008 20:11:51] <kinections> Is it possible to associate two OS's to a single machine in Zenoss?
[29-Jan-2008 20:12:00] <kinections> for computers taht are dual boot
[29-Jan-2008 20:22:27] <telexicon> kinections, you might want to treat them as separate entities
[29-Jan-2008 21:22:50] <stefano_> hi guys!
[29-Jan-2008 21:27:31] <kinections> telexicon: i want to be able to track which OS users log into when they sit down at a dual boot machine, would I be able to do that?
[29-Jan-2008 21:29:54] <stefano_> kinections: i would to know the answer of your question too..
[29-Jan-2008 21:31:01] <kinections> what?
[29-Jan-2008 21:31:15] <kinections> oh
[29-Jan-2008 21:31:15] <kinections> nvm
[29-Jan-2008 21:32:50] <jy007> I have a question, I have downloaded the Zenpacks to a cd and the drive is mounted in the vmware zenoss but I am unable to see anything on the disc, am I doing this the hard way to install the zenpacks?
[29-Jan-2008 21:49:09] <msw> jy007: you should be able to download the zenpack .zip file to your workstation, and upload them via the web admin ui
[29-Jan-2008 21:57:34] <jy007> oh
[29-Jan-2008 21:58:51] <jy007> so the RPM package would need a linux box and not a vmware one
[29-Jan-2008 22:00:39] <jy007> that did it, I can't beleive I over looked that option, DOH!
[29-Jan-2008 22:03:00] <telexicon> a vmware what?
[29-Jan-2008 22:06:20] <jy007> install of Zenoss
[29-Jan-2008 22:12:11] <johns55> so im doing a the portscan template to monitor a device, after modeling the device it only shows up as ssh and http open
[29-Jan-2008 22:12:19] <johns55> however sendmail and mysql is also listening
[29-Jan-2008 22:12:25] <johns55> is there a reason why this isnt being modeled?
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[30-Jan-2008 01:11:19] <Snake-eyes> Any one know how or where zenoss grabs the time from when sending email out ?
[30-Jan-2008 01:13:44] <Snake-eyes> I'm getting emails dated in the future yet date on the machine is correct and apps sending email from same box have correct timestamps
[30-Jan-2008 01:53:54] <Snake-eyes> damn symlink
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[30-Jan-2008 16:16:01] <jb__> anyone know how to get rid of a device thats "stuck" in the device issues portlet?.. it has no events
[30-Jan-2008 18:55:35] <flea> possibly a nob question, but where do ppl get mibs for devices ?
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:21] <jerris> Anybody get this error in their Locations (Google Maps) portlet?
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:38] <jerris> Site error
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:38] <jerris> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist.
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:38] <jerris> Please click here to return to the Zenoss dashboard
[30-Jan-2008 19:43:06] <_LoneCrow> Anyone know of a good site with a good set of instructions on how to get this going on centos?
[30-Jan-2008 19:47:45] <msw> _LoneCrow: why not just use the VMware version?
[30-Jan-2008 20:31:00] <_LoneCrow> was thinking of doing that.. but I don't have a vmserver
[30-Jan-2008 20:33:58] <msw> _LoneCrow: you can give it a try on player
[30-Jan-2008 20:36:32] <_LoneCrow> I'm kinda new to vmware .. do they have a player for windows?
[30-Jan-2008 20:37:09] <_LoneCrow> I sort of want to install it on a linux box here and test out the graphing. Having a hard time with cacti doing what I want it to do etc, and I hear this program is the bomb.
[30-Jan-2008 20:37:23] <_LoneCrow> I was drooling at the demo
[30-Jan-2008 20:56:24] <msw> _LoneCrow: yup, VMware runs on Mac, Linux, Windows
[30-Jan-2008 20:56:45] <msw> _LoneCrow: the VMware version is running on Linux inside VMware
[30-Jan-2008 21:01:52] <_LoneCrow> So in essense its sorta like parallels but for linux.. so I need to find the vmware server for windows, then run the vmware version of zenoss...
[30-Jan-2008 21:02:02] <_LoneCrow> Must need an insane amount of ram for all that.
[30-Jan-2008 21:02:59] <_LoneCrow> Don't you need to buy the software for windows? or is it open source?
[30-Jan-2008 21:05:16] <msw> _LoneCrow: VMware? You can use it for free
[30-Jan-2008 21:06:03] <_LoneCrow> ahh cool thanks
[30-Jan-2008 21:06:15] <_LoneCrow> just looking at the vmware site looks like they charge for some of it
[30-Jan-2008 21:08:11] <_LoneCrow> So I just need vmware for windows.. not server
[30-Jan-2008 21:10:24] <_LoneCrow> sorry to be a pain.. so ok I think I found it.. vmware server for windows. Once I install that, then I just sorta snap or open the file for zenoss?
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:06] <jerris> Let me get you a howto....
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:29] <jerris> http://www.webaj.com/zenoss-2-0-core-installation-guide-centos-looks-network-and-server-monitoring-has-gone-web-2-0.htm
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:36] <jerris> There you go.
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.0 core installation guide for CentOS. Looks like network and server monitoring has gone web 2.0 | webAJ.com (at www.webaj.com)
[30-Jan-2008 21:15:56] <jerris> vmware server can be used for free, you just have to request a serial.
[30-Jan-2008 21:16:34] <_LoneCrow> ahhh ok thanks
[30-Jan-2008 21:17:01] <jerris> They have an ESX (enterprise) version that runs on its own micro-kernel and that costs some big bucks, but the other versions you can download for free and they work great.
[30-Jan-2008 21:17:36] <_LoneCrow> No this is more of a trial thing. I just want to demo zenoss on our nework and see how well it graphs our servers, and wireless accesss points, clients etc..
[30-Jan-2008 21:18:37] <jerris> I'd goof around with the vm stuff too at some point. A lot of stuff is heading to virtualization now-a-days.
[30-Jan-2008 21:18:39] <_LoneCrow> We mostly use trango and its been a royal pain graphing them in any program because our subsriber units are polled from an access point. Therefore you have to manually create custom queries for each bloody user, and it never works right..
[30-Jan-2008 21:19:31] <jerris> You'll like Zenoss. It's still got a few qwerks, but not nearly as much as the others. Much more easy to configure than Nagios in my opinion.
[30-Jan-2008 21:19:45] <jerris> And it's got an active development community.
[30-Jan-2008 21:19:49] <_LoneCrow> But the guy who works for us who is back in school is getting hard for ajax so this might be up his alley
[30-Jan-2008 21:20:29] <_LoneCrow> He wants to develop ajax stuff so working with zenoss might be what he'd like, and make it easier for us noobs in tech support
[30-Jan-2008 21:36:31] <_LoneCrow> just realized have to have IIS installed to install vmware server.. doh, I don't have a spare 2003 server to install this on, just workstations..
[30-Jan-2008 21:38:22] <_LoneCrow> the centos install page is damn good tho
[30-Jan-2008 21:40:34] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[30-Jan-2008 22:36:59] <_LoneCrow> Well I followed the instructions. I have a centos install basically called cactiez with cacti, net snmp mysql all that installed already. So I made a new dir in var/www/html/zenoss and copied the rpm there, tried to cd to the rpm ike it said..
[30-Jan-2008 22:38:24] <_LoneCrow> said I was missing some dependencies, libc.o.6 libcrypto.so.6 libssl.so.6
[30-Jan-2008 22:40:37] <_LoneCrow> rtld as well
[30-Jan-2008 22:40:45] <_LoneCrow> anyone know which rpm I need to get those dependencies?
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[31-Jan-2008 01:12:06] <johns55> how much system resource does it use if i run snmp on a system that is being monitored
[31-Jan-2008 01:33:00] <KillMeNow> anyone here?
[31-Jan-2008 01:38:56] <johns55> wzp
[31-Jan-2008 01:38:58] <johns55> kill
[31-Jan-2008 01:38:59] <johns55> me now
[31-Jan-2008 01:40:31] <KillMeNow> howdy
[31-Jan-2008 01:40:56] <KillMeNow> i had a server in maintenance setting... i have since removed it and now it won't go back in to production state?
[31-Jan-2008 01:41:32] <KillMeNow> under administration it doesn't have anything listed for maintenance, it's empty but it's still showing up in the main display as being in maintenance
[31-Jan-2008 01:41:37] <KillMeNow> suggestions?
[31-Jan-2008 01:43:27] <johns55> by removing it what do ui mean exactly
[31-Jan-2008 01:43:32] <johns55> you set it back to production?
[31-Jan-2008 01:43:55] <KillMeNow> i select the maintenance portion from device administration and delete it
[31-Jan-2008 01:44:01] <KillMeNow> was i supposed to do something different?
[31-Jan-2008 01:44:35] <johns55> to put a machine in maintenance mode i usually, select it, then from the pull down menu, set production state
[31-Jan-2008 01:44:48] <KillMeNow> hrm, lemme check that
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:25] <KillMeNow> crapzor... gotta reboot... but anyways, from /devices/server/windows/<servername> click the down drop and select administration... from there is a menu called "Maintenance Windows"
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:42] <KillMeNow> I created a maintenance window and when it was over i deleted it
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:49] <KillMeNow> but it's still showing in maintenance
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:52] <KillMeNow> i'll brb
[31-Jan-2008 01:47:05] <johns55> can u try to force production
[31-Jan-2008 01:47:18] <KillMeNow> don't know how to do that... i'm still pretty new w/ zenoss...
[31-Jan-2008 01:47:22] <KillMeNow> i'll BRB
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[31-Jan-2008 14:18:57] <twm1010> anyone know the syntax for zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[31-Jan-2008 14:18:58] <twm1010> ?
[31-Jan-2008 14:24:05] <twm1010> nevermind
[31-Jan-2008 14:41:14] <_LoneCrow> Ran the install for centos last night.. said I was missing some dependencies, libc.o.6 libcrypto.so.6 libssl.so.6
[31-Jan-2008 14:41:46] <_LoneCrow> glibc_2.4 and gnu_hash.. been looking all over to find out which packages I'd need to install to get those dependencies..
[31-Jan-2008 14:44:36] <twm1010> did you try yum install libc* ?
[31-Jan-2008 14:46:59] <duncan> what would be casuing these erroneous alerts: blade1.remotelabs.com vmnic1 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 33.51 -- blade1.remotelabs.com vmnic1 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1445.24
[31-Jan-2008 14:47:22] <twm1010> I believe it creates a virtual nic to exchange data with the virtual machine
[31-Jan-2008 14:47:35] <twm1010> I went to the device class my ESX boxes are in, zProperties
[31-Jan-2008 14:48:28] <twm1010> and in zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames I added vmnic
[31-Jan-2008 14:49:02] <twm1010> then remodeled the ESX servers
[31-Jan-2008 14:49:06] <twm1010> and it removed that interface
[31-Jan-2008 14:49:40] <twm1010> I believe that is a virtual interface for doing NAT maybe?
[31-Jan-2008 14:54:28] <_LoneCrow> Yeah tried yum install libc but not the *
[31-Jan-2008 14:55:09] <_LoneCrow> Seems to be installing quite a bit ... lets see..
[31-Jan-2008 14:57:54] <duncan> twm1010: thanks I'll give that a shot
[31-Jan-2008 14:57:56] <_LoneCrow> nope didnt work soon as I rpm -Uvh zenoss2.0.0-0.el5,i386.rpm it givs me the same errors - failed dependencies: libc.o.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by zenoss-2.0 yada yada
[31-Jan-2008 14:58:15] <_LoneCrow> maybe after the libs installed it needs a reboot? usually it shouldnt..
[31-Jan-2008 14:59:51] <twm1010> nah, shouldn't need a reboot
[31-Jan-2008 15:00:29] <twm1010> hold on a sec
[31-Jan-2008 15:00:42] <twm1010> when i ran centos there was a command i ran that took care of all dependencies
[31-Jan-2008 15:01:25] <twm1010> run this yum -y install mysql mysql-server net-snmp net-snmp-utils gmp
[31-Jan-2008 15:02:09] <twm1010> get the feeling that should bring with it everything you need
[31-Jan-2008 15:02:24] <_LoneCrow> did that one
[31-Jan-2008 15:02:30] <_LoneCrow> although the gmp one I didnt do
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:01] <jb_> hrmf.. hey twm1010, I still can't get these alert schedules right
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:23] <jb_> i thought I had it..
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:31] <_LoneCrow> this is a cactiez cd with mysql and cacti, nagios, ntop and a whole bunch of stuff all ready to go. But I ran that command..
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:35] <twm1010> Go into the GUI on your centos box add/remove software, and add the "development" libraries
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:51] <_LoneCrow> do the services need to be stopped if I already have net-snmp installed, mysql etc?
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:56] <twm1010> nope
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:06] <_LoneCrow> no gui on this..
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:12] <twm1010> hrmmm....
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:28] <twm1010> could swear you said this was CentOS
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:30] <_LoneCrow> don't want to install one either.. going to try the gmp now though
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:35] <twm1010> ok
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:38] <_LoneCrow> centos yes
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:57] <twm1010> jb_: you created two groups
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:01] <_LoneCrow> Its just a cli server install with bare min stuff like mysql snmp cacti php etc..
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:03] <twm1010> with identical rules ?
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:11] <jb_> twm: i have two alerts
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:11] <twm1010> and different schedules?
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:18] <jb_> i want one alert to always occur
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:37] <jb_> i have another alert that has: Start: 17:30 (5:30PM), Duration: 13 hours
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:47] <jb_> so that should go from 5:30 to 6:30AM
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:49] <jb_> right?
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:58] <twm1010> 1730 to 630 yes
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:00] <_LoneCrow> did a yum install gmp and nothing to do...
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:33] <twm1010> lonecrow: i think your just missing the dev libraries, i don't know how to get those from the CLI, i almost always did a full install with CentOS
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:38] <twm1010> so everything was already there
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:45] <jb_> twm: well for some reason that alert was occuring all day, not only at those hours
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:46] <twm1010> try yum install glib*
[31-Jan-2008 15:07:17] <_LoneCrow> ahhh ok thanks for the help. I was hoping to get both cacti and zenoss running on the same box.. and this cactiez install is just too good with all the plugins already set up to do another full install and starting from scratch..
[31-Jan-2008 15:07:42] <twm1010> lonecrow: do you have hardware that could handle a virtual machine?
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:01] <_LoneCrow> trying
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:03] <twm1010> i ran zenoss as a VM on my own workstation for quite a while
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:13] <_LoneCrow> not really.. this is just a bare bones emachine with 1g of ram
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:26] <_LoneCrow> I was looking into doing the vmware stuff
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:05] <twm1010> I'm looking at this now... I think the way you do it is a little weird
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:14] <twm1010> because I don't understand how the enabling/disabling works
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:22] <twm1010> the alert itself can be enabled/disabled
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:32] <twm1010> but the schedule can set those too
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:50] <jb_> yeah its strange
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:51] <twm1010> so I'm thinking, maybe you do the opposite, instead of saying when it SHOULD send alerts, perhaps you define when it should NOT
[31-Jan-2008 15:10:00] <jb_> hmm
[31-Jan-2008 15:10:17] <twm1010> readin the manual, maybe its in there
[31-Jan-2008 15:10:20] <_LoneCrow> workstation meaning windows? I downloaded he server but you need IIS to run it.. and i dont have Windows 2000 server handy yet
[31-Jan-2008 15:11:45] <_LoneCrow> I also reran the yum install mysql mysql-server net snmp net snmputils gmp (with correct spelling etc) and "nothing to do"
[31-Jan-2008 15:11:46] <_LoneCrow> dang
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:12] <_LoneCrow> well I could yum install gnome..
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:21] <twm1010> you can run IIS 5.0 on XP
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:36] <twm1010> nah, don't bother installing the GUI
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:45] <twm1010> hold on
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:07] <_LoneCrow> didnt know you could run iis 5.0 .. hmmm I'm about to rebuilt a shop PC soon too, maybe I'll put IIS on it..
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:22] <twm1010> ya, just hit Add/Remove programs, IIS is in there
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:43] <_LoneCrow> I was just hoping to get all of our basic polling snmp type software cacti, ntop, zenoss etc all running on one computer..
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:55] <_LoneCrow> XP pro or home?
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:00] <twm1010> pro only probably
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:11] <_LoneCrow> thats my problem lol
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:36] <twm1010> try this... for shits and giggles
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:49] <twm1010> yum groupinstall "Development Libaries"
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:51] <_LoneCrow> I am going to buy a pro copy because I need oen anyway..
[31-Jan-2008 15:15:43] <_LoneCrow> caps make a diff?
[31-Jan-2008 15:15:50] <twm1010> its linux, so most likely
[31-Jan-2008 15:15:54] <_LoneCrow> yep looks like it did
[31-Jan-2008 15:16:08] <twm1010> might be quite a few packages in that command
[31-Jan-2008 15:17:56] <_LoneCrow> yep quite a bit.. and I see some in there that might be related
[31-Jan-2008 15:18:44] <_LoneCrow> thx for the help btw I really want to try out zenoss badly on our equipment and network ajax looks great and our programmer wants to really dive into it
[31-Jan-2008 15:18:56] <twm1010> Zenoss may negate your need for Cacti
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:05] <jb_> twm: so you think I should switch the rules?
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:07] <_LoneCrow> exactly
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:11] <twm1010> jb: still reading
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:19] <jb_> yeah I read it, but its not very clear
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:58] <_LoneCrow> zenoss looks like a much better interface all around.. so once I get this running and if it does everything we need, we'll probably dive in and purchase hardware just to run it to manage everything in our network, probably 1000 devices or so
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:09] <_LoneCrow> SOH
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:10] <_LoneCrow> DOH
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:23] <_LoneCrow> No go..
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:23] <jb_> zenoss has much more capability than cacti
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:36] <_LoneCrow> looks like it.. if I could just get a copy running so I can see for myself lol!
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:57] <jb_> im displaying the dashboard with the google maps portal on one of our monitoring plasmas here and everybody thinks its super cool
[31-Jan-2008 15:21:03] <_LoneCrow> I might just do a centos 5.1 net install on this box and follow the specific instructions from scratch
[31-Jan-2008 15:26:56] <duncan> how can I remove a monitored component from a device? I can re-model the device but the smtp component still shows in the list and is always down (because it doesn't exist)
[31-Jan-2008 15:28:40] <_LoneCrow> hey.. let me give you an example of what we want to do.. can you tell me if zenoss can do this.. first off. We have some procurve switches .. eventually we'll be vlanning but thats besides the point. I just want to graph and monitor the traffic on each port of that switch. I can do that with cacti with the generic cisco router template.. Is it easy to set up such devices?
[31-Jan-2008 15:29:13] <twm1010> Lonecrow: just run the VMWare player
[31-Jan-2008 15:29:23] <twm1010> works fine
[31-Jan-2008 15:29:44] <_LoneCrow> Also we have all sorts of radios, routers, access points bridges, servers etc.. (wireless ISP) brand names from Trango, to Tranzeo.. some with snmp and some without
[31-Jan-2008 15:30:34] <_LoneCrow> Oh there is just a vmware player for windows?
[31-Jan-2008 15:30:41] <twm1010> yep
[31-Jan-2008 15:30:58] <twm1010> not as robust as server, and you'd have to leave it up all the time, but it works fine
[31-Jan-2008 15:34:17] <_LoneCrow> Leave it up? Meaning it has to be loaded all the time to use zenoss.. thats ok once I'm done testing zenoss I can kill the program right or is it a service thats always running?
[31-Jan-2008 15:34:27] <_LoneCrow> my laptop has 1g memory so I can't go nuts lol
[31-Jan-2008 15:34:49] <twm1010> Hrmm...
[31-Jan-2008 15:35:02] <twm1010> i gave zenoss a gig of ram, probably more than is needed for a demo
[31-Jan-2008 15:46:47] <_LoneCrow> may have to reboot installing now
[31-Jan-2008 15:47:55] <duncan> once I have added custom mibs with zenmib, how can I implement them into the performance and threshold template?
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:16] <twm1010> duncan, thats a long winded question
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:24] <duncan> hehe
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:37] <duncan> it seems that importing mibs only helps with traps
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:41] <duncan> which is not what I need
[31-Jan-2008 16:04:10] <duncan> I can just use the mib to find the OID I'm looking for, add a datasource, and then set thresholds on that particular datasource
[31-Jan-2008 16:04:14] <duncan> right?
[31-Jan-2008 16:04:37] <twm1010> correct
[31-Jan-2008 16:13:03] <_LoneCrow> success... its up and running now I just need the default pw's to get in lol
[31-Jan-2008 16:19:38] <twm1010> admin/zenoss
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:33] <_LoneCrow> yep I got it.. just finally able to play with it.. damn its slow on this laptop though everything is chuggin along.. I'm going to install it on a pc with some more mem soon
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:46] <_LoneCrow> then the fun begins
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:54] <_LoneCrow> thx for the help bro
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:58] <twm1010> np
[31-Jan-2008 16:25:22] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[31-Jan-2008 16:27:03] <_LoneCrow> hmm trying to add a device, which field do you actually put the IP? there is none..
[31-Jan-2008 16:32:05] <_LoneCrow> time to rtfm for me lol
[31-Jan-2008 16:36:17] <twm1010> uh huh
[31-Jan-2008 16:39:13] <_LoneCrow> ahhh instead of device name it shoulda been the ip
[31-Jan-2008 16:39:25] <_LoneCrow> wow this is nice I was able to dive into my switch, pick the port and it automaticaly started to graph data!
[31-Jan-2008 16:39:49] <_LoneCrow> ooh gotta test out my trango equipment now.
[31-Jan-2008 17:15:51] <KillMeNow> i think it was johns55 who helped me last night, want to give him a big "THANKS!"
[31-Jan-2008 17:38:10] <jb_> does anyone know how I can populate the "HW Model/HW Make/OS Make/Model" on the status page via SNMP?
[31-Jan-2008 17:38:13] <jb_> err
[31-Jan-2008 17:38:17] <jb_> oops
[31-Jan-2008 18:04:14] <KillMeNow> from my understanding, it's all about the MIBS!
[31-Jan-2008 18:04:26] <KillMeNow> your motherboard / manufacturer MIBS
[31-Jan-2008 18:16:48] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Jan-2008 19:34:48] <eurowerke> anyone around?
[31-Jan-2008 19:35:10] <eurowerke> trying to see if there's a way to change the default sort column on the device list page
[31-Jan-2008 20:33:14] Spec is now known as spec-x
[31-Jan-2008 21:12:26] <duncan> anyone good with defining graphs in zenoss?
[31-Jan-2008 21:13:27] <duncan> I've added some datapoints for collecting the current draw on some network PDU (network power strips) and it is reporting the data in tenths of amps and I need to use RPN to get it from 40 to 4.0, etc
[31-Jan-2008 21:19:57] <bnafziger> 10, / ? (I use 1000,/,32,+,9,*,5,/ ... to go from cel to farenheit)
[31-Jan-2008 21:31:05] <duncan> bnafziger: so, on the graph definition, under RPN, just use 10,/ and it will divide by 10? oh, of course! for some reason I thought I needed to have a cdef variable with the value but I guess it knows
[31-Jan-2008 21:33:36] <KillMeNow> might i ask where you are defining these settings?
[31-Jan-2008 21:33:49] <KillMeNow> i'm still pretty new to zenoss and i'm not familiar with where you are talking about
[31-Jan-2008 21:34:19] <duncan> my data still does not want to show up for some reason.. the graph shows nan as the values.. although if I run "rrdtool info rPDULoadStatusLoad_StatusLoad.rrd" it shows the value ds[ds0].last_ds = "22", which is 2.2 amps
[31-Jan-2008 21:38:42] <duncan> here is the graph output sent to rrdtool from zenoss, and the actual rrd info -- http://pastebin.ca/886715
[31-Jan-2008 21:38:50] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 886715 (at pastebin.ca)
[31-Jan-2008 21:40:10] <duncan> I created a new performance template under devices/power called APC PDU
[31-Jan-2008 21:40:36] <duncan> under the template I added 4 datapoint OID's that I found by searching through the manufacturers MIB
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:21] <duncan> they collect the current power output in tenths of amperes, as well as the low, high, and overload thresholds
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:28] <KillMeNow> cool
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:39] <KillMeNow> where did you add the data points?
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:47] <KillMeNow> under what part of the template?
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:57] <duncan> here is a good example of what I'm trying to get as my output graph: http://forums.cacti.net/about7612.html
[31-Jan-2008 21:42:04] <adytum-bot> Title: APC rack pdu stuff (at forums.cacti.net)
[31-Jan-2008 21:42:27] <duncan> I added the datasources first, then added datapoitns to each source as a GAGUE
[31-Jan-2008 21:42:34] <duncan> err GAUGE
[31-Jan-2008 21:43:08] <duncan> from there I added a new graph and used the datapoint for current power consumption
[31-Jan-2008 21:43:39] <duncan> I set it as an area graph, and I added the RPN you suggested
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:09] <duncan> I know it is collecting the data because I can see the data in the $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/<devicename>/rPDUblahblah.rrd file
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:42] <KillMeNow> copy that
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:49] <KillMeNow> was reading the forum on cacti
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:59] <KillMeNow> that's some good info there duncan
[31-Jan-2008 21:46:27] <duncan> if I can get this working I might be able to package it all up as a zenpack
[31-Jan-2008 21:46:44] <KillMeNow> let us know how you get it resolved, it's a bit over my head at the moment, but i have a APC back up in my rack @ home that i'll have to string ethernet to and try to get polls off it
[31-Jan-2008 21:46:52] <KillMeNow> that would roxxor
[31-Jan-2008 21:47:14] <KillMeNow> i might ping one of my buddies who's a wiz w/ that kind of stuff but he's not online at the moment
[31-Jan-2008 21:47:42] <duncan> KillMeNow: thanks I'll keep you guys posted
[31-Jan-2008 21:47:57] <KillMeNow> i would sure appreciate it
[31-Jan-2008 23:00:54] <johns55> for mysqlmonitor, there should be 2 places to enter the mysqlpassword, does anyone know where this is?
[31-Jan-2008 23:05:59] <johns55> anyone here?
[31-Jan-2008 23:30:52] <KillMeNow> i'm here
[31-Jan-2008 23:30:54] <KillMeNow> now
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[31-Jan-2008 23:48:15] <nonsenso> i just started setting up zenoss and i'm pretty excited about it.
[31-Jan-2008 23:48:26] <nonsenso> am i a big dork or are a lot of people stoked about it?
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[01-Jan-2008 03:57:18] <GNUWorldOrder> For nagios users in here?
[01-Jan-2008 03:57:25] <GNUWorldOrder> Former*
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[02-Jan-2008 15:32:47] <klinstifen> anyone out there using CentOS?
[02-Jan-2008 15:33:35] <klinstifen> having trouble with my ubuntu server running zenoss and wondering if CentOS users find it to be stable or not? any perf issues or quicky zenoss issues?
[02-Jan-2008 17:21:22] <lorth> hey guys i need help
[02-Jan-2008 17:35:48] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I have heartbeat failures for all of the zen services showing up in my event console.....how can I get that to stop?
[02-Jan-2008 17:38:54] <cluther> ke4qqq: Go to Event Manager, click on the menu and choose clear all heartbeats.
[02-Jan-2008 17:42:10] <ke4qqq> cluther: my question is more around how to stop it from reoccurring
[02-Jan-2008 17:42:53] <cluther> ke4qqq: That is how you keep it from recurring. Normally the only reason you'd get heartbeat failures for every zen daemon would be if the zenoss server changed hostnames.
[02-Jan-2008 17:43:13] <cluther> ke4qqq: Zenoss still expecting the heartbeats to come in form the old hostname, but they never will again.. so they're all in fault.
[02-Jan-2008 17:43:26] <cluther> ke4qqq: When you clear the heartbeats it tells Zenoss to forget about them and only pay attention to new heartbeats.
[02-Jan-2008 17:56:16] <ke4qqq> ahhh thanks!!!
[02-Jan-2008 18:02:16] <ke4qqq> yet another question - I have a machine that picks up http every time it remodels. I have this firewalled off (https is up and working). Every time I delete (even if ipservices are locked) it returns on next remodel and then goes critical because it detects http as being down. How do I resolve that?
[02-Jan-2008 18:07:01] <cluther> ke4qqq: IpServices are modeled via SNMP and monitored via an actual TCP socket connection.. this is why they can be modeled but not monitored. Instead of deleting the service from the device, click into it and set the Monitored state to False.
[02-Jan-2008 18:58:13] <MuseHome> Hey there, can anyone tell me if there is some place to find a list of the "here." options?
[02-Jan-2008 18:58:32] <MuseHome> like here.speed and here.totalBytes.
[02-Jan-2008 19:01:13] <cluther> MuseHome: The admin guide contains the list for devices and for events. Not for a file system like you're looking for though.
[02-Jan-2008 19:01:27] <cluther> MuseHome: You can take a look at $ZENHOME/Products/ZenModel/FileSystem.py for a definition of the FileSystem class.
[02-Jan-2008 19:01:43] <cluther> MuseHome: You can use any properties of this class or any methods that only take (self) as a parameter.
[02-Jan-2008 19:02:02] <cluther> MuseHome: You'll see that totalBytes is a property of FileSystem.
[02-Jan-2008 19:04:30] <MuseHome> Thank you ...
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[02-Jan-2008 20:04:34] <MuseHome> Will this work as to as a 500MB threshold? Â Â here.totalBytes - (500000000/ here.blockSize)
[02-Jan-2008 21:39:51] <Brixius> I have a bunch of snmp events comming in under a general oid where the detail is in a varbind under the event, to get the detail's to show under the description I had to put "evt.summary=evt.telicaReptCondDescr" in transform. is there a way I can filter based on what's in the varbinds. so that the same oid could be either critical or warning based on the content.
[02-Jan-2008 21:40:18] <Brixius> hope that makes sense
[02-Jan-2008 21:43:44] <monrad> i would like to know that too
[02-Jan-2008 21:43:55] <monrad> i have quite a lot of those kinds of traps
[02-Jan-2008 21:44:10] <monrad> like bgp traps, some bgp peers are critical others are warnings
[02-Jan-2008 21:56:11] <foo> Anyone in here come from nagios?
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[03-Jan-2008 09:16:19] <pavloskleanthous> hello there
[03-Jan-2008 09:16:28] <pavloskleanthous> happy new year
[03-Jan-2008 09:17:13] <pavloskleanthous> I'm using Zenoss Version 2.1.70
[03-Jan-2008 09:17:27] <pavloskleanthous> and i have a problem
[03-Jan-2008 09:17:41] <pavloskleanthous> can anyone help me ?
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[03-Jan-2008 11:17:07] <pavloskleanthous> ?
[03-Jan-2008 15:53:17] <klinstifen> what's the default mysql zenoss user password?
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[03-Jan-2008 18:17:41] <radkingz> QUESTION: I just installed the latest version of zenoss built from source and i cant seem to get zenperfsnmp,zencommand and zenprocess to run
[03-Jan-2008 18:21:08] <radkingz> the error on zencommand is: zen.zencommand: iteration over non-sequence
[03-Jan-2008 18:38:35] <cluther> radkingz: This would indicate a problem with zenhub. Was this an upgrade or a fresh install?
[03-Jan-2008 19:30:56] <radkingz> cluther: It was a fresh install
[03-Jan-2008 19:31:28] <radkingz> zenhub shows to be running
[03-Jan-2008 19:57:56] <radkingz> yup I stopped zenhub and the other daemons started
[03-Jan-2008 19:59:50] <fas3r> hello everybody
[03-Jan-2008 20:00:01] <fas3r> i have question about zenoss
[03-Jan-2008 20:00:22] <fas3r> i have see it integrate google map and over thing ..
[03-Jan-2008 20:01:00] <fas3r> it's possible to select element when i install it ?
[03-Jan-2008 20:01:12] <fas3r> it's on debian server
[03-Jan-2008 20:05:29] <fas3r> erf nobody here ... ?
[03-Jan-2008 20:40:55] <MoreDakka> Can Zenoss monitor if a port oni a switch gets unplugged (down)?
[03-Jan-2008 20:59:40] <charlieS> It doesn't correlate that to host being down, no.. it doesn't understand L2 topology. But it can receive the link down trap.
[03-Jan-2008 21:05:15] <charlieS> It'd be ideal if a link_down trap made zenoss send a single notification that the connected _host_ was down, and then supressed all other alerts relating to that host. Oh that'd be wonderful
[03-Jan-2008 21:12:33] <MoreDakka> hehe
[03-Jan-2008 21:12:40] <MoreDakka> so the only way to do it really is with Traps.
[03-Jan-2008 21:13:32] * johns55 nods
[03-Jan-2008 21:17:08] <MoreDakka> :-/
[03-Jan-2008 21:17:46] <MoreDakka> Also, I've noticed that zenperfsnmp is generating a heartbeat failure a lot, do lots of people have this problem?
[03-Jan-2008 21:21:31] <johns55> you can clear this
[03-Jan-2008 21:22:38] <johns55> go to Events manager under management
[03-Jan-2008 21:22:48] <johns55> from the pull down menu select clear heartbeats
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[03-Jan-2008 21:25:07] <MoreDakka> Yeah I know I can clear it but like in v1.1.1 (our production version) zenmodeler gets gummed up every couple of weeks and I have to reset the daemon and clear the heartbeats. Will the same thing happen with 2.1.1?
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:03] <johns55> wow that version os really old
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:09] <johns55> u def need to update
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:18] <johns55> were doin very well with 2.1.1 over ehre
[03-Jan-2008 21:26:30] <johns55> 2.1.0 had a few bugs but 2.1.1 is pretty smooth so far
[03-Jan-2008 21:27:16] <MoreDakka> hehe, yeah I know v1.1.1 is old but I have 2.1.1 in testing now to make sure it's as stable. 1.1.1 is extremely stable.
[03-Jan-2008 21:28:30] <johns55> what have you found so far?
[03-Jan-2008 21:28:35] <johns55> how mmany machines r u monitoring?
[03-Jan-2008 21:28:47] <johns55> have you tried to run both systems on parralell?
[03-Jan-2008 21:30:06] <MoreDakka> We have two different servers.
[03-Jan-2008 21:30:18] <MoreDakka> we are monitoring about 160 devices.
[03-Jan-2008 21:31:00] <MoreDakka> I was soooooo happy when chet was able to help me get the import from 1.1.1 -> 2.1.1 done....omg that would suck to have to re-enter all that.
[03-Jan-2008 21:31:43] <MoreDakka> The only thing I don't like about 2.1.1 is the txt is too big, takes up too much area. I would prefer a smaller text and more information.
[03-Jan-2008 21:31:49] <MoreDakka> And the geocache issue....
[03-Jan-2008 21:37:51] <foo> Anyone in here come from nagios?
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:14] <charlieS> foo: most people, I assume have used Nagios.
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:23] <MoreDakka> guilty
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:36] <MoreDakka> for like 10 minutes
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:41] <charlieS> hehe
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:46] <foo> charlieS: I'm looking for someone who converted from nagios to zenoss
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:51] <johns55> MoreDakka: a simple discovery would have done the trick no/
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:53] <johns55> ?
[03-Jan-2008 21:38:59] <cluther> I used to be a Nagios guy.
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:12] <charlieS> foo: I did, wrote a few articles about it (not a lot of detail though)
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:43] <MoreDakka> johns55: No. We have VPNs going all over and remote devices. It would probably take longer for me to filter/add what auto-discovery finds then work around an import.
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:48] <charlieS> cluther: were you a Nagios developer, or just a disgruntled user?
[03-Jan-2008 21:39:48] <foo> charlieS / cluther - hey, thanks. I'm currently on nagios 2.x, heard a lot about zenoss, seen it in action, spoke with reps, I have 2 zenoss hats... and I'm thinking about converting to it. Any advice? Anything really compelling that was the reason for your move?
[03-Jan-2008 21:40:21] <johns55> MoreDakka: sounds complicated, im glad it worked out for you
[03-Jan-2008 21:40:34] <charlieS> foo: I collapsed three apps into zenoss: nagios, cricket, cacti. Pretty compelling.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:13] <cluther> foo: I wrote custom extensions to Nagios for 3 years then found that Zenoss did them all+ better out of the box.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:30] <MoreDakka> Yeah, two things I learned while doing that. zenmigrate can do everything including making breakfast...it's amazing. And cluther is a Zenoss god.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:37] <cluther> foo: To be fair, I work for Zenoss and am likely one of the reps you talked to.
[03-Jan-2008 21:41:55] <charlieS> "it works" and the frustrating bits I've run into don't even matter in the grand scheme, because I'm doing so much more than I was before..
[03-Jan-2008 21:44:42] <cluther> foo: Where did you meet the reps?
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[03-Jan-2008 22:13:38] <foo> oh shoot, I froze my screen... gah
[03-Jan-2008 22:14:30] <foo> cluther: oh, hey
Still around? Gah, froze my screen session. At SCALE[03-Jan-2008 22:14:40] <cluther> yup
[03-Jan-2008 22:14:55] <cluther> ah, okay. That wouldn't have been me.
[03-Jan-2008 22:16:34] <foo> ah
[03-Jan-2008 22:16:40] * foo wonders if they're going to be back this year
[03-Jan-2008 22:18:25] <charlieS> foo: its OSS, just install a test version and give it a whirl.. much easier to set up and start getting useful results than in nagios.
[03-Jan-2008 22:18:33] <MoreDakka> What does Zenoss require open for iptables rules? I'm going to be connecting our zenoss box to a client's network and want to make sure it is as secure as possible. Well, I want to lock it right down but still have access to it locally (which is easy enough) and have the snmp/icmp/etc traffic accessing their network.
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:04] <MoreDakka> You can get zenoss running with an OS install in like 45 minutes and it can be polling devices within about 5 minutes after that.
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:28] <cluther> Inbound connectivity would only need to be 8080/tcp for the web interface, 514/udp for syslogs, 162/udp for SNMP traps.
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:33] <foo> I have several custom nagios plugins and the stuff it's monitoring is remote... but I'll play around with it
[03-Jan-2008 22:19:58] <foo> Any general statistics for scaling? Say, 30 devices with a total of 200 services... how much RAM are we talking?
[03-Jan-2008 22:20:46] <cluther> foo: 1GB would be safe.. 512MB should work fine for that few devices.
[03-Jan-2008 22:20:48] <MoreDakka> cluther, what about icmp? (I'm still a newb when it comes to iptables, I can break things easily but then fix them in a couple hours haha)
[03-Jan-2008 22:21:03] * charlieS has 208 devices ATM, 4GB dual quad-core works (but I need more RAM)
[03-Jan-2008 22:21:33] * charlieS should note that he's running 64-bit, and python gobbles memory like its free
[03-Jan-2008 22:21:41] <cluther> MoreDakka: ICMP and everything else should work fine as long as you use the conn_tracking and allow established connections back in.
[03-Jan-2008 22:22:07] <MoreDakka> thanks again cluther.
[03-Jan-2008 22:22:58] <foo> cluther: I see, ok. I was total nagios scales better than zenoss, but, zenoss does do more. It's the graphing I'm after
[03-Jan-2008 22:23:27] <charlieS> nagios scales?!
[03-Jan-2008 22:23:38] <cluther> foo: Nagios can likely handle more devices on a single server than Zenoss. Zenoss works better for scaling once you need to distribute the monitoring over more than one server.
[03-Jan-2008 22:28:32] <radkingz> hey cluther my issue was I had to move the export statements up above the early return in the .bashrc file
[03-Jan-2008 22:29:02] <cluther> That's a weird one.
[03-Jan-2008 22:29:24] <radkingz> you were talking with a guy about it on the forums
[03-Jan-2008 22:30:57] <radkingz> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4434
[03-Jan-2008 22:30:57] <cluther> yup.. learn something new every day.
[03-Jan-2008 22:31:08] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenperfsnmp / zencommand / zenprocess won't start! (at community.zenoss.com)
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[03-Jan-2008 22:31:34] <cluther> Two people in such a short time with such an odd problem.
[03-Jan-2008 22:32:07] <charlieS> ugh, zenperfsnmp hearbeat failure keeps coming back. the process is running, and working. So odd..
[03-Jan-2008 22:33:02] <radkingz> yup..the instructions say to add it just not where. I didnt think it would make a difference until i read that post
[03-Jan-2008 22:33:53] <foo> cluther: thank you
[03-Jan-2008 22:57:54] <MoreDakka> While there are lots of people here might as well get this question out. On my graphs I have noticed that all of them are quite choppy. Choppy as in it looks like zenoss gets a reply from the device for 10 minutes then doesn't for 5 then again 10 or 15 minutes then might not recieve one for 15 minuutes...etc...etc.
[03-Jan-2008 22:58:48] <MoreDakka> All of the devices that have snmp all have this problem and all of them respond no problem to snmp requests manually. I have two zenoss servers running, could that cause a conflict of some kind?
[03-Jan-2008 23:06:06] <charlieS> I've seen this only on some servers.. not many though.
[03-Jan-2008 23:07:42] <charlieS> in /Devices/Server zProperties, I set zCommandCycleTime = 60, I think that'll help.
[03-Jan-2008 23:08:00] <charlieS> (I'm assuming it runs collections every 60 secs now)
[03-Jan-2008 23:14:44] <grogan> got a quick q if anyone's here who'd care to answer
[03-Jan-2008 23:16:08] <grogan> where do I find the snmp plugins for zenoss?
[03-Jan-2008 23:16:36] <grogan> running zenmodeler on command line to pick off the network settings from a test box.
[03-Jan-2008 23:17:01] <grogan> starts the collector loop for the ip, but then returns no cmd plugins, no snmp plugins, no portscan plugins. etc.
[03-Jan-2008 23:17:28] <grogan> is part of my install fubared?
[03-Jan-2008 23:18:32] <grogan> from the zenoss web interface, I can get a snmpwalk going.
[03-Jan-2008 23:19:35] <charlieS> maybe there's some environment setting that are missing when you're running from the command line?
[03-Jan-2008 23:19:47] * charlieS doesn't know
[03-Jan-2008 23:20:08] <MoreDakka> Thanks charlieS, I'll look into that.
[03-Jan-2008 23:20:14] <charlieS> does it just assume 'public' or rely on your config? Not sure.
[03-Jan-2008 23:20:55] <cluther> grogan: Zenmodeler doesn't take an IP address as a parameter..
[03-Jan-2008 23:21:19] <grogan> hmm strange, I saw it listed
[03-Jan-2008 23:21:32] <grogan> on some faq as being one of those commands to check it against one box.
[03-Jan-2008 23:21:59] <cluther> Have you already added the device to Zenoss?
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:03] <grogan> yup
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:14] <cluther> Try: zenmodeler run --device=deviceNameFromZenoss
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:15] <grogan> it's doing the same thing it does when I do autodiscovery.
[03-Jan-2008 23:22:26] <grogan> hmmm ok. lemme check that
[03-Jan-2008 23:23:09] <grogan> I was using the syntax: zenmodeler -d <ip address> --collect cmd.linux.netstat_rn
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:04] <grogan> hmmmm
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:09] <grogan> nice. that actually worked.
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:10] <grogan> thanks man
[03-Jan-2008 23:24:47] <cluther> sure thing.. the -d is shorthand for --device=. It just needs to be the device's name from zenoss instead of the IP.
[03-Jan-2008 23:25:13] <grogan> ahh ok.
[03-Jan-2008 23:30:02] <charlieS> cluther: is that true? "/Devices/Server zProperties, I set zCommandCycleTime = 60" - means that SNMP collections will run every minute?
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[03-Jan-2008 23:32:34] <charlieS> cluther_: having IRC issues?
[03-Jan-2008 23:32:52] <fas3r> i have question about zenoss
[03-Jan-2008 23:33:08] <cluther_> charlieS: Always.. it's these Cisco VPNs that isolate you from all other networks.
[03-Jan-2008 23:33:48] <charlieS> cluther_: (reposting question then) cluter: is that true? "/Devices/Server zProperties, I set zCommandCycleTime = 60" - means that SNMP collections will run every minute?
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:07] <charlieS> fas3r: "just ask it"
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:28] <fas3r> if you prefer i don't need google map module and other ... it's just for know if it's possible to select what module i want install on zenoss during the installation ? ( on debian server )
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:30] <cluther_> charlieS: You change the SNMP cycle from within the Monitors -> Performance -> localhost, edit tab.
[03-Jan-2008 23:34:54] <charlieS> ah! So zCommandCycleTime is only for SSH/etc commands.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:02] <cluther_> charlieS: Bear in mind that you will have to wipe out all of the .rrd files under $ZENHOME/perf/Devices if you do this as they're created with a specific step and heartbeat value.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:33] <cluther_> I don't think zCommandCycleTime is used at all honestly. COMMAND type data sources each specify their own interval and zencommand schedules them intelligently.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:41] <cluther_> Maybe a relic of the past.
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:44] <charlieS> lol, ok
[03-Jan-2008 23:35:57] <charlieS> ew, ok I'll leave the SNMP setting as-is. Thanks.
[03-Jan-2008 23:41:44] <grogan> hmm
[03-Jan-2008 23:41:51] <grogan> another error that I bumped into earlier today.
[03-Jan-2008 23:42:02] <grogan> was trying to load up some of the zenpacks
[03-Jan-2008 23:42:18] <grogan> running gentoo 2.6.16 x86_64
[03-Jan-2008 23:42:24] <grogan> kept running into keyerror:app errors.
[03-Jan-2008 23:43:00] <grogan> whenever I tried loading it up, both via command line and via gui interface.
[03-Jan-2008 23:44:26] <grogan> was trying to load up the 64 bit zenpacks of apachemonitor, windowswmidevicetemplate & mysqlmonitor.
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[04-Jan-2008 00:05:12] <johns55> anyone have experience with snmp with windows?
[04-Jan-2008 00:05:35] <johns55> i just did an snmpwalk on my localhost and get a buncha errors saying it can not find snmp modules
[04-Jan-2008 00:05:40] <johns55> does this mean snmp is not running?
[04-Jan-2008 00:11:20] <donkdonk> just installed zenoss on CentOS5 and following the install guide i am supposed to go to http://10.1.2.101:8080. nothing comes up when i do
[04-Jan-2008 00:12:51] <johns55> check if httpd is running
[04-Jan-2008 00:14:03] <donkdonk> johns55: no, httpd is not running. should it be?
[04-Jan-2008 00:14:36] <donkdonk> johns55: its not even installed. the install guide didnt say anything about httpd
[04-Jan-2008 00:15:36] <johns55> yes u need httpd and mysql
[04-Jan-2008 00:15:45] <johns55> if u dont have that prior to installation, it will not work
[04-Jan-2008 00:16:52] <johns55> how is your system suppose to host zenoss pages if httpd is not installed?
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:37] <donkdonk> johns55: thought it brought its own host. owell i will play with it tomorrow
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:39] <donkdonk> johns55: thanks
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:52] <johns55> do a lsof -i -n -P
[04-Jan-2008 00:17:56] <johns55> check or a netstat
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:02] <johns55> to see what ports are listening
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:33] <donkdonk> johns55: yes, 8080 definatly not listening
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:41] <johns55> hrm
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:50] <johns55> do a /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenoss status
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:53] <johns55> see if all services on running
[04-Jan-2008 00:18:54] <donkdonk> ill install apache tomorrow
[04-Jan-2008 00:19:36] <donkdonk> [root@jamesdev etc]# /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss status
[04-Jan-2008 00:19:36] <donkdonk> ls: /opt/zenoss/var/Data.fs: No such file or directory
[04-Jan-2008 00:19:36] <donkdonk> Unable to determine the right user to run zenoss
[04-Jan-2008 00:20:55] <johns55> su zenoss
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:02] <johns55> r u running this as root?
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:15] <donkdonk> yes
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:20] <johns55> looks like the install didnt go so well
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:34] <donkdonk> ok thnaks
[04-Jan-2008 00:21:39] <donkdonk> ill redo it
[04-Jan-2008 00:22:21] <monrad> is there a way to make SLA caculation based on groups and/or systems
[04-Jan-2008 01:17:01] <johns55> can anyone help me with windows and snmp? seems like its telling me it cant find modules when performing an snmpwalk on localhost?
[04-Jan-2008 03:31:05] <donkdonk> just installed zenoss. following the install guide i am supposed to go to http://localhost:8080/ It does not pull up anything
[04-Jan-2008 03:31:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[04-Jan-2008 03:35:07] <charlieS> if you installed it on the box you're running the browser on..
[04-Jan-2008 03:36:38] <donkdonk> well, actually i am trying on a diffrent server using http://192.168.1.100:8080/
[04-Jan-2008 03:37:01] <donkdonk> there were some errors at first run
[04-Jan-2008 03:37:29] <charlieS> you probably want to address those errors, I'd guess
[04-Jan-2008 03:37:30] <donkdonk> something about the wrong mysql password
[04-Jan-2008 03:38:00] <donkdonk> where do i configure the password at?
[04-Jan-2008 03:38:23] <charlieS> in the GUI... hehe.
[04-Jan-2008 03:38:52] <charlieS> I think you can set it as an env var for the zenoss user, too
[04-Jan-2008 03:47:07] <donkdonk> ok apparently you need a blank password for mysql
[04-Jan-2008 03:47:39] <donkdonk> wtf is up with that?
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[04-Jan-2008 07:28:27] <charlieS> Address (optional) <-- it says, in the alerting rule. But I get: WARNING zen.ZenActions: failed to page rooters on rule Prod_24x7_Errors: Unspecified address.
[04-Jan-2008 07:28:58] <charlieS> when i try to send myself a test page it says it faile because i don't have a pager address, but it WORKS. (and I certainly do have a pager address set)
[04-Jan-2008 07:35:15] <charlieS> tis odd, that. I think I'll send mail to the list
[04-Jan-2008 12:23:46] <Xander77> Is there a way I can delete/disable the admin account? Or is it just a case of setting a really impossible password if I don't want to use it
[04-Jan-2008 15:04:20] <tafryn> If an admin is dead set against using snmp on his network will Zenoss still be a useful tool for him/her?
[04-Jan-2008 15:10:43] <cluther> tafryn: It'll be a heck of a lot more painful to use, but it could still be a useful tool.
[04-Jan-2008 15:12:03] <tafryn> more painful in that it wont auto detect the network or more painful in some other way?
[04-Jan-2008 15:12:47] <cluther> tafryn: Primarily in the discovery, yes. Also in the ability to collect performance information. The ZenPlugins agent will have to be installed on all of the *nix systems to allow Zenoss to to performance monitoring via SSH instead of SNMP.
[04-Jan-2008 15:14:50] <cluther> tafryn: Zenoss has a lot of features, and without SNMP you will simply miss out of some of them. To put it in perspective: Even if you don't use all of the free functionality that SNMP buys you, it will still be as capable as the alternatives since it can natively run Nagios or Cacti plugins to collect data.
[04-Jan-2008 15:18:23] <tafryn> I read about the compatability with Nagios plugins, how does that work exactly?
[04-Jan-2008 15:18:46] <cluther> tafryn: Are you familiar with Nagios plugins at all?
[04-Jan-2008 15:19:59] <tafryn> Somewhat
[04-Jan-2008 15:31:44] <Xander77> As I understand it, Nagios plugins are just commands that return the status of the service, along with performance parameters. You can set up datasources in Zenoss which run commands (ie nagios plugin in this case) and then extract the data from the return string
[04-Jan-2008 15:33:18] <Xander77> eg. the nagios plugin for http monitoring (check_http) returns something like
[04-Jan-2008 15:33:19] <Xander77> HTTP OK HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 84039 bytes in 0.185 seconds |time=0.184819s;;;0.000000 size=84039B;;;0
[04-Jan-2008 15:33:29] <Xander77> when you run ./check_http -H news.bbc.co.uk
[04-Jan-2008 15:44:18] <cluther> tafryn: Sorry.. got distracted. Xander77 is on the money though.
[04-Jan-2008 15:45:29] <cluther> If the command exits with a non-zero exit code Zenoss will generate an event of the severity you specify, and the "time" and "size" values can be slurped up into data points which you can create thresholds against and graphs to display.
[04-Jan-2008 15:54:47] <tafryn> So how is a datasource setup in Zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 15:56:56] <cluther> tafryn: I'd recommend getting the admin guide and taking a look at chapter 12. It goes over this stuff better than most people here would.
[04-Jan-2008 15:57:41] <cluther> tafryn: Then chapter 14 is even better once you understand 12.
[04-Jan-2008 15:58:47] <tafryn> fair enough, thanks
[04-Jan-2008 16:50:38] <BrixHome> question, running "zenmib run mibfile" I'm getting the following "INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI" as well as others, however I've allready imported SNMPv2-SMI. Can I safely ignore that error, or do I have to re-import the base mibs it's complaining about when importing this mib.
[04-Jan-2008 16:51:04] <BrixHome> thanks in advance
[04-Jan-2008 16:54:44] <cluther> BrixHome: Try just running "zenmib run" without the mibfile parameter.
[04-Jan-2008 16:55:13] <cluther> BrixHome: That will allow it to find dependencies in the same mibs/site directory.
[04-Jan-2008 17:02:47] <BrixHome> thanks
[04-Jan-2008 17:36:03] <grogan> hmmm is there a file that controls the network map information under zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 17:36:28] <grogan> that could be re-generated? the network map thing was working last night, but today it's blank.
[04-Jan-2008 17:52:24] <MuseHome> Is there away to set alerts child/parent relationship. So that a switch with 48 systems going  down does not send out alerts for every system?
[04-Jan-2008 18:11:53] <MoreDakka_> port 8080 is just for tcp right? udp isn't required.
[04-Jan-2008 18:16:04] <MoreDakka_> Or can anyone guess why my web interface isn't working anymore?
[04-Jan-2008 18:17:01] <MuseHome> not for the web interface. udp will be used but the system to get snmpdata.
[04-Jan-2008 18:17:44] <MoreDakka_> Alright, but for the web interface it will only need tcp8080 right?
[04-Jan-2008 18:20:22] <johns55> yes
[04-Jan-2008 18:24:11] <grogan> hmmm
[04-Jan-2008 18:24:30] <grogan> is there a command line option to regenerate the network map stuff?
[04-Jan-2008 18:24:50] <grogan> the network map was working yesterday, but now it's gone again.
[04-Jan-2008 18:25:11] <grogan> no options whatsoever (i.e. no ip address to enter.. it's just blank.
[04-Jan-2008 18:27:17] <MuseHome> Do you get the "Device Class Fliter" pull down?
[04-Jan-2008 18:28:59] <MuseHome> Any chance I could use the ‽add route� option to make a switch look like it’s a parent? Using /32’s.
[04-Jan-2008 18:33:12] <johns55> anyone good with snmp and windows?
[04-Jan-2008 18:33:46] <MuseHome> good? I don't know about good.. what's up
[04-Jan-2008 18:34:21] <MoreDakka_> Wow...zenhub is really broken.
[04-Jan-2008 18:34:47] <johns55> i can get zenoss to monitor linux boxes via snmp but im having a hard time with windows
[04-Jan-2008 18:34:56] <pablo26> hi all
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:11] <johns55> i just get timedout when performing an snmpwalk from the zenoss to windows
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:17] <johns55> netstat shows udp 161 is running
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:55] <johns55> snmpwalk from itself to itself via localhost is giving me a cannot find module error
[04-Jan-2008 18:35:57] <MuseHome> Do you have it locked to a host or is it open?
[04-Jan-2008 18:36:33] <johns55> ive got it locked to the zenoss IP and localhost only
[04-Jan-2008 18:36:50] <johns55> same with snmp trap destinations
[04-Jan-2008 18:37:08] <pablo26> can i set dependencies between devices in zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 18:38:36] <MuseHome> Do you get the same error when you walk from the zenoss (linux) box?
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:02] <johns55> from the zenoss (linux) box, i get a timeout error
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:20] <pablo26> johns55 what are u using to test from windows to windows?
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:21] <johns55> the snmpwalk.exe was a downloaded file im not sure if its an accurate way of testing
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:27] <johns55> snmpwalk.exe
[04-Jan-2008 18:39:50] <MuseHome> can you snmpwalk.exe something else? do you have something to walk?
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:02] <MuseHome> just to test your snmewalk.exe
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:11] <johns55> not at the moment, the windows box is on a different network
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:28] <johns55> i did an snmpwalk back to zenoss and get the same cannot find module error
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:33] <MuseHome> what about the zenoss box. trying walking it from the windows box.
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:49] <johns55> yes, cannot find module error
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:52] <MuseHome> that sounds like it's looking for MIBs maybe.
[04-Jan-2008 18:40:58] <johns55> yes it is
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:13] <johns55> could it be the snmpwalk.exe is not an accurate way of testing this?
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:20] <MuseHome> is that your error? "Cannot find module (XXX-MIB)"
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:25] <johns55> yes it is
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:41] <MuseHome> you can read this. http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/docs/FAQ.html#What_does__Cannot_find_module__XXX_MIB___mean_
[04-Jan-2008 18:41:49] <adytum-bot> Title: Net-SNMP (at net-snmp.sourceforge.net)
[04-Jan-2008 18:42:15] <pablo26> johns55 try this simple software to test if its working ok http://noeld.com/programs.asp?cat=dstools#snmptest
[04-Jan-2008 18:42:19] <johns55> its actually being generated for all modules
[04-Jan-2008 18:42:34] <adytum-bot> Title: Miscellaneous Tools (at noeld.com)
[04-Jan-2008 18:43:07] <johns55> i am gonna try that test prog
[04-Jan-2008 18:43:09] <johns55> 1 sec
[04-Jan-2008 18:43:33] <pablo26> there are lot download SNMP test for routers u have to enter a community name and an ip
[04-Jan-2008 18:44:38] <johns55> yes, this is a windows box, so hopefully it will work for that too
[04-Jan-2008 18:44:59] <MuseHome> I would open up the windows to let any host use snmp. Just to test it. the from zenoss command-line "snmpwalk -v2c -c cstring host_ip ."
[04-Jan-2008 18:46:01] <MuseHome> or if you have nmap. nmap the windows box to see if it can see UDP 161 open.
[04-Jan-2008 18:48:06] <MuseHome> Anyone know. Is there away to set alerts child/parent relationship. So that a switch with 48 systems going  down does not send out alerts for every system?
[04-Jan-2008 18:48:47] <pablo26> no
i really need that[04-Jan-2008 18:49:30] <MuseHome> Any chance I could use the ‽add route� option to make a switch look like it’s a parent? Using /32’s.
[04-Jan-2008 18:49:40] <pablo26> the ping automatically recognizes the network topology
[04-Jan-2008 18:49:57] <pablo26> but if it doesnt, u cant set it manually
[04-Jan-2008 18:50:47] <MuseHome> Seems like the class setup zenoss has. you would be able to make a class tree topology of your network.
[04-Jan-2008 18:51:51] <johns55> ah, i ran the test program, it says the first part of the test was successful
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:00] <johns55> now i need to unplug me network cable to test the trap
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:06] <johns55> which i cant do since this is a production box
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:07] <pablo26> i need that and services windows that can be setted automatically from outside to be happy
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:57] <MuseHome> What do you mean? what are you trying to do with your windows boxes?
[04-Jan-2008 18:52:58] <pablo26> johns55 u were able to snmpwalk with the software i told u?
[04-Jan-2008 18:54:21] <MuseHome> pablo26: what do you want to do automatically?
[04-Jan-2008 18:55:13] <pablo26> i want to turn off alerts during mainentances (periodically data updates) without having to log in to zenoos to create them
[04-Jan-2008 18:56:08] <MuseHome> Are they on a set time? so you could repeat them? or are they ramdom?
[04-Jan-2008 18:56:08] <johns55> pablo: yes it works on localhost
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:39] <johns55> im starting to think it might be network
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:55] <pablo26> do u have some firewall in the middle?
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:56] <johns55> since i tried to test it on the windows box against the zenoss box
[04-Jan-2008 18:57:59] <johns55> and it is not working
[04-Jan-2008 19:01:55] <MuseHome> pablo26:Are they on a set time? so you could repeat them? or are they ramdom?
[04-Jan-2008 19:18:00] <pablo26> they can change, depends when the indexing finish, when the data feed came
[04-Jan-2008 19:23:08] <grogan> oh sheesh n/m. (didn't have the flash plugin installed on this new box I was working from)
[04-Jan-2008 19:23:49] <johns55> lol simple solution
[04-Jan-2008 19:23:54] <grogan> haha yeah no kidding
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:04] <grogan> I was boggling over this since it worked on my laptop last night.
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:24] <johns55> since you are working on that, im trying to have the map show all networks
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:35] <johns55> is there a way to do it? ive only been able to have it show 1 network at a time
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:42] <grogan> hmm
[04-Jan-2008 19:24:46] <grogan> maybe it's number of hops?
[04-Jan-2008 19:25:08] <MuseHome> they have to have links. So you can change the number of hops.
[04-Jan-2008 19:25:35] <johns55> hrm i dont understand.. im not a network guy
[04-Jan-2008 19:25:37] <MuseHome> and 4 hops max.
[04-Jan-2008 19:26:56] <MuseHome> You need to have H --->R ---> H or H --> R --> R --> H
[04-Jan-2008 19:27:25] <MuseHome> So there has to be a ARE (router) that has a a leg I neach network.
[04-Jan-2008 19:28:08] <MuseHome> ARE = R
[04-Jan-2008 19:28:43] <MuseHome> Does that help or make it worse? :-)
[04-Jan-2008 19:29:29] <BrixHome> pablo26: I'm guessing there's some type of command line you could do to put a device in maint and if so you could do it in a cron, or issue the command via ssh on another host. I've no clue what that command line would be, I'm really new at zenoss myself, but I'm guessing there is one. (I know not much help, but maybe a pointer at someplace to look)
[04-Jan-2008 19:29:57] <grogan> have you guys had any luck installing zenpacks?
[04-Jan-2008 19:30:39] <pablo26> yes, from the command line or web interface grogan?
[04-Jan-2008 19:30:48] <grogan> both
[04-Jan-2008 19:30:57] <grogan> running under 64 bit gentoo
[04-Jan-2008 19:31:10] <grogan> not sure if that's why it's falling apart.
[04-Jan-2008 19:31:34] <pablo26> maybe u dont have the environment variables of zenoss home
[04-Jan-2008 19:31:56] <grogan> hmmm
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:08] <BrixHome> grogan: are you running as user zenoss?
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:10] <grogan> yeah.
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:16] <grogan> with all of the environmental variables set
[04-Jan-2008 19:32:34] <grogan> I got through that whole issue of the 3 processes that would start/stop
[04-Jan-2008 19:33:00] <grogan> the zenperfsnmp, zencommand and one other
[04-Jan-2008 19:33:16] <grogan> found the environmental variable settings somewhere, plugged them in and that problem fixed itself.
[04-Jan-2008 19:34:46] <BrixHome> grogan: I've had luck as long as I switch to the zenoss user using the command "su - zenoss" but I cheated on installing it and downloaded the vmware image to put on esx.
[04-Jan-2008 19:37:59] <grogan> heh
[04-Jan-2008 19:38:01] <grogan> ahh yeah
[04-Jan-2008 19:38:03] <grogan> I know. same here
[04-Jan-2008 19:38:22] <grogan> I su - zenoss, and then load the $zenhome, etc vars
[04-Jan-2008 19:39:32] <grogan> comes back with some keyerror:app
[04-Jan-2008 19:39:57] <grogan> after a slew of python stuff.
[04-Jan-2008 19:40:04] <MuseHome> pablo26: can you use the "Alerting period to repeat" in the alert Schedule to hold off your E-Mail when your system is updating?
[04-Jan-2008 19:41:13] <johns55> Muse: we just ahve 1 netblock of class Cs and split it up via subnetting
[04-Jan-2008 19:42:14] <MuseHome> john: But the thing that is doing the subneting need to be in zenoss. It has to be a router.
[04-Jan-2008 19:43:32] <MuseHome> john: that router will have routes for each subnet. and that will link all the nets together.
[04-Jan-2008 19:45:30] <MuseHome> This also could be a Firewall that is routing all your subnets.
[04-Jan-2008 19:47:41] <MuseHome> John: Does that help you?
[04-Jan-2008 19:47:42] <pablo26> MuseHome i can do that if the maintenance task were scheduled, but in my case the can change every time
[04-Jan-2008 19:55:49] <MuseHome> pablo26: that is ./bin/winexe not zenwin....
[04-Jan-2008 20:00:05] <klinstifen> i just migrated from one box to another and now my dashboard is empty and i can't add anything
[04-Jan-2008 20:00:09] <klinstifen> anyone got any ideas?
[04-Jan-2008 20:01:50] <klinstifen> when i try to add a portlet there are none to choose from
[04-Jan-2008 20:09:20] <MoreDakka_> What's the pastebin site that everyone uses?
[04-Jan-2008 20:18:33] <BrixHome> I use pastebin.com but I don't think it really maters which one you use
[04-Jan-2008 20:21:11] <MoreDakka_> Can anyone please tell me why my server is broken? http://pastebin.ca/841636
[04-Jan-2008 20:21:18] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 841636 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Jan-2008 20:21:53] <MoreDakka_> The mysqld service is running and iptables is empty.
[04-Jan-2008 20:24:53] <MoreDakka_> I can't access the server via the web site. I haven't made any changes to it and the errors go as far back as 12/30 :-/
[04-Jan-2008 20:55:08] <MoreDakka_> I can't even start zenhub. Try to restart it, says it's already stopped and nothing is showing up in the logs...
[04-Jan-2008 20:55:34] <klinstifen> what's the default zenoss user password when installing from a RPM
[04-Jan-2008 20:56:02] <klinstifen> MoreDakka: if you do a ps -ef | grep zenoss do you see a line for zenhub?
[04-Jan-2008 20:56:38] <MoreDakka_> Just my grep zenhub, nothing else.
[04-Jan-2008 20:57:07] <klinstifen> so when you do a zenhub start what happens
[04-Jan-2008 20:57:45] <MoreDakka_> What I described above
[04-Jan-2008 20:58:43] <klinstifen> does it just drop to the command line?
[04-Jan-2008 20:58:51] <klinstifen> are you stopping/starting from website?
[04-Jan-2008 20:58:52] <MoreDakka_> I can't get to the web interface at all.
[04-Jan-2008 20:59:14] <MoreDakka_> So all of this is being done from the command line.
[04-Jan-2008 20:59:41] <klinstifen> so when you do zenhub start does it just drop to the command prompt?
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:31] <MoreDakka_> zenhub restart
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:34] <MoreDakka_> already stopped
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:37] <MoreDakka_> starting...
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:40] <MoreDakka_> $
[04-Jan-2008 21:00:53] <MoreDakka_> zenhub status
[04-Jan-2008 21:01:01] <MoreDakka_> not running
[04-Jan-2008 21:01:03] <MoreDakka_> $
[04-Jan-2008 21:06:05] <klinstifen> what if you do zenhub run -v 10
[04-Jan-2008 21:07:38] <MoreDakka_> http://pastebin.ca/841688
[04-Jan-2008 21:07:44] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[04-Jan-2008 21:07:45] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 841688 (at pastebin.ca)
[04-Jan-2008 21:08:38] <klinstifen> so looks like a problem with your cache
[04-Jan-2008 21:08:48] <klinstifen> cd to $ZENHOME/var
[04-Jan-2008 21:08:56] <klinstifen> and rm zenhub-1.zec
[04-Jan-2008 21:09:05] <klinstifen> then try restarting zenhub
[04-Jan-2008 21:10:05] <MoreDakka> That got it started. What would cause that?
[04-Jan-2008 21:12:35] <klinstifen> i dunno, but it's happened to me before
[04-Jan-2008 21:12:54] <klinstifen> there are a couple different problems posted in the forums that have the same solution...delete zenhub cache
[04-Jan-2008 21:12:58] <MoreDakka> Gah, that sucks....not really a good thing to happen.
[04-Jan-2008 21:13:38] <klinstifen> least its an easy fix
[04-Jan-2008 21:13:42] <klinstifen> ...now that you know about it
[04-Jan-2008 21:13:58] <klinstifen> i just migrated from ubuntu to centos and my dashboard is blank
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:05] <klinstifen> anyone got ideas on how to fix this?
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:23] <klinstifen> tried updating catalog, but that didn't work
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:50] <MoreDakka> have you tried zenmigrate? That fixed a ton of problems for me when I upgraded from 1.1.1 -> 2.0.3 -> 2.1.1
[04-Jan-2008 21:14:57] <MoreDakka> Plus it can make breakfast too.
[04-Jan-2008 21:15:02] <MoreDakka> (from what I've heard)
[04-Jan-2008 21:17:23] <klinstifen> as zenoss user i ran "zenmigrate" and it said it ran successfully
[04-Jan-2008 21:17:37] <klinstifen> but alas my dashboard is still blank : (
[04-Jan-2008 21:19:27] <klinstifen> and my portlets are missing too
[04-Jan-2008 21:24:01] <MoreDakka>
That's all I know to help you sorry.[04-Jan-2008 21:37:16] <grogan> hmmm
[04-Jan-2008 21:37:35] <grogan> is there a way to command-line add a tcp service for monitoring?
[04-Jan-2008 21:38:04] <grogan> one of the devices I created keeps hanging on the OS window of the device details listing
[04-Jan-2008 21:38:44] <grogan> and can't click the stupid downarrow to trigger the ip services addition window.
[04-Jan-2008 21:39:29] <grogan> just keeps waiting with the inane 'loading' window
[04-Jan-2008 21:39:47] <grogan> or is the only way to delete the device and re-add it.
[04-Jan-2008 21:45:12] <grogan> oh well. deleting and redetecting.
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[04-Jan-2008 23:08:09] <doseyg> Can I use ssh to auto-discover Linux systems ? Also, what would need to happen to have zenoss automatically place system in the appropriate class and log all of the installed rpms and hardware ?
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[06-Jan-2008 00:22:28] <jdavis_> Does zenoss support postgresql?
[06-Jan-2008 00:28:55] <jdavis_> would a patch to support postgresql be welcome?
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[07-Jan-2008 00:36:08] <jdavis_> what is the license for zenoss?
[07-Jan-2008 00:37:56] <jdavis_> It looks like it's GPL.
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[07-Jan-2008 12:01:50] <turbohr> hello
[07-Jan-2008 13:47:06] <klinstifen> anyone running centos5.1?
[07-Jan-2008 14:00:42] <Auron> q
[07-Jan-2008 14:01:48] <Jorn-21> Goodday all, hope this works.
[07-Jan-2008 14:06:54] <klinstifen> anyone running centos5.1
[07-Jan-2008 14:08:21] <Jorn-21> say Test ... anybody sees this?
[07-Jan-2008 14:10:04] <Jorn-21> who
[07-Jan-2008 14:10:52] <Jorn-21> quit
[07-Jan-2008 14:45:34] <klinstifen> anyone know how to change the default install path for the rpm?
[07-Jan-2008 14:45:39] <klinstifen> it defaults to /opt/zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 14:45:44] <klinstifen> and --prefix doesn't work
[07-Jan-2008 14:59:46] <cluther_> klinstifen: Unfortunately there's no good way to do this and we don't honor the prefix flag yet. There is a way though..
[07-Jan-2008 15:01:42] <cluther_> klinstifen: symlink /opt/zenoss to where you really want it installed, then after the install edit your the .bashrc in your zenoss user's home directory to update the ZENHOME environment variable to the real location and remove your symlink.
[07-Jan-2008 15:03:39] <klinstifen> cluther_:ok thanks
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:08] <klinstifen> i'm moving from debian to centos and upgrading from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:19] <klinstifen> my previous install location was /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:44] <cluther_> I'd definitely recommend sticking with /opt/zenoss unless your mount point aren't setup for it.
[07-Jan-2008 15:04:58] <klinstifen> and i think the new path is conflicting with some of my perf templates
[07-Jan-2008 15:05:07] <klinstifen> i'll stick with it
[07-Jan-2008 15:05:35] <klinstifen> the debian/ubuntu install guide suggested /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 15:15:41] <klinstifen> cluther_: would perf templates referencing /usr/local/zenoss cause zenperf, command, and process from running?
[07-Jan-2008 15:21:19] <cluther_> You're talking about COMMAND type data sources that reference that path? If so, then no.. zencommand would still run.
[07-Jan-2008 15:24:32] <klinstifen> cluther_: hmm...well, on a fresh install of centos5.1 and zenoss 2.1.2 everything works fine
[07-Jan-2008 15:24:39] <klinstifen> all daemons are up and running
[07-Jan-2008 15:24:59] <klinstifen> but when i zenrestore my 2.1.1 data several things fail
[07-Jan-2008 15:25:16] <klinstifen> the dashboard is blank, but more importantly those three daemons will not stay up
[07-Jan-2008 15:28:40] <klinstifen> i think i'll have to do a more manual mirate
[07-Jan-2008 15:28:42] <klinstifen> *migrate
[07-Jan-2008 15:33:27] <cluther_> klinstifen: Did you try just running zenmigrate after doing the upgrade then restarting everything?
[07-Jan-2008 15:34:49] <klinstifen> cluther_: i did. the first time all of zenoss was started when i zenmigrated
[07-Jan-2008 15:35:30] <klinstifen> does it matter if they are all running rather then just zopectl
[07-Jan-2008 15:50:28] <Xander77> Is there a way to have performance graphs or reports automatically refresh? (i have seen this http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/335 has there been an update?)
[07-Jan-2008 15:50:39] <adytum-bot> Title: #335 (auto reload of performance graphs) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Jan-2008 15:52:59] <cluther_> Xander77: No update on that one.. it would be on the ticket. For such a simple thing this one has been outstanding for a long time.
[07-Jan-2008 15:54:55] <Xander77> Ok thanks. Yeh its a bit odd it hasn't been implemented. No worries, ill figure something out
[07-Jan-2008 16:19:44] <klinstifen> cluther_: when i zenrestore the Products directory is not restored properly...could this cause those three processes to fail?
[07-Jan-2008 16:20:46] <cluther_> It could be related. zenrestore isn't supposed to restore the Products directory. That only contains code. zenbackup/zenrestore only backs up and restores data (events, performance and configuration)
[07-Jan-2008 16:21:18] <cluther_> Moving the data onto a new system then running zenmigrate should upgrade your data to be compatible with the code in Products.
[07-Jan-2008 16:26:04] <klinstifen> cluther_: ok. i'll restore that dir and give it a shot
[07-Jan-2008 16:36:00] <klinstifen> no dice, same problems
[07-Jan-2008 16:40:45] <klinstifen> cluther_: i am getting iteration over non-sequence errors in the log for those three processes?
[07-Jan-2008 16:40:53] <klinstifen> any ideas or clues?
[07-Jan-2008 16:44:01] <klinstifen> anyone else done a migration that resulted in these symptoms:
[07-Jan-2008 16:44:48] <klinstifen> dashboard blank, zenprocess/command/perfsnmp all repeatedly fail, available portlets is empty (could be related to dashboard blank)
[07-Jan-2008 16:47:36] <Xander77> Should you be able to create Custom Properties in any class? It lets me add them in any class, but they only display in the list if I create them in /Devices. Any sub-class doesn't work
[07-Jan-2008 16:48:00] <Xander77> *Any sub-class of /Devices doesn't work
[07-Jan-2008 16:51:06] <klinstifen> xander77: doesn't work as in you can't do it or it doesn't propagate to the devices in the sub-class?
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:04] <klinstifen> cluther_: actually the permissions for the folders/files I copied from 2.1.1/Products to 2.1.2/Products weren't correct
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:21] <klinstifen> I changed them and restarted zenoss and now those processes are up and running
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:31] <klinstifen> I don't want to speak too soon, but I think that was the issue
[07-Jan-2008 16:53:44] <klinstifen> now if only i can fix my blank dashboard issue...
[07-Jan-2008 16:59:05] <Xander77> klinstifen: If I try to create a Custom Property in a sub class of /Devices, it says its added it, but doesn't display in the list. If I attempt to add it again (with the same name), I get a Python error saying "invalid or duplicate"
[07-Jan-2008 16:59:32] <Xander77> Currently I'm working around this by adding them for /Devices as propogation is working
[07-Jan-2008 17:03:08] <klinstifen> xander:let me see if i can duplicate your problem
[07-Jan-2008 17:03:21] <klinstifen> anyone know how to reset the dashboard to factory config?
[07-Jan-2008 17:07:40] <Xander77> klinstifen: I know its not ideal but you could re-create your user account, that would give you the default
[07-Jan-2008 17:12:58] <klinstifen> ... that would actually be a perfect solution! my user account is pretty much the default anyway...
[07-Jan-2008 17:14:49] <klinstifen> i wonder what kind of chaos it will cause if i delete the admin account
[07-Jan-2008 17:18:34] <Xander77> hehe as far I can tell you can't
[07-Jan-2008 17:18:43] <Xander77> It won't let you delete it
[07-Jan-2008 17:18:52] <Xander77> so I've set some really complex password on it
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[07-Jan-2008 17:42:09] <klinstifen> bummers...that's the account that has the missing dashboard
[07-Jan-2008 17:42:28] <Xander77> dam
[07-Jan-2008 17:59:56] <twm1010> Hello
[07-Jan-2008 18:00:03] <klinstifen> hi
[07-Jan-2008 18:00:55] <twm1010> How goes it?
[07-Jan-2008 18:02:17] <klinstifen> meh
[07-Jan-2008 18:02:58] <MoreDakka> Anyone alive in here today?
[07-Jan-2008 18:03:29] <MoreDakka> Alright, well I'll ask anyways and hope someone answers ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:04:21] <MoreDakka> Can zenoss, with the SNMP-Informant monitor hardware "heartbeats"? The servers have Dell OpenManage Server software on it so I can have it send traps which is great but it would be even better if Zenoss could just do all the work ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:05:42] <twm1010> MoreDakka
[07-Jan-2008 18:05:45] <twm1010> I think you are in luck
[07-Jan-2008 18:14:50] <twm1010> The informant, i would think, simply installs some extra OID's that Zenoss can query with SNMPGET
[07-Jan-2008 18:15:23] <twm1010> The question is then, what information exactly do you want it to check on?
[07-Jan-2008 18:15:59] <klinstifen> xander77: i duplicated the issue you were having..doesn't look like additional properties can be added to sub-classes
[07-Jan-2008 18:15:59] <MoreDakka> Like I said I need a hardware heartbeat or an indication on when a piece of hardware fails (ie cpu, memory, powersupply, hdd...etc...etc)
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:23] <twm1010> Let openmanage do that for you, by sending an SNMP trap to Zenoss
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:43] <twm1010> Is your management NIC configured?
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:48] <MoreDakka> That seems like the best way to do it, I just thought zenoss could read from opemanage and go from there.
[07-Jan-2008 18:16:57] <twm1010> It may be able to as well
[07-Jan-2008 18:17:05] <twm1010> You would probably need a MIB for that
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:02] <MoreDakka> I think I'll just work with the traps. that would be the best thing to do. Now to find the mib ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:06] <twm1010> I would think OpenManage would generate a Windows event
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:14] <twm1010> which WMI from Zenoss will pick up
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:18] <twm1010> so thats one more place to get it from
[07-Jan-2008 18:18:51] <MoreDakka> The company that we monitor wan't the least amount of stuff installed. I think I'll leave WMI out of this for now.
[07-Jan-2008 18:19:22] <twm1010> Well that doesn't require any more than you've already configured though, WMI is already running.
[07-Jan-2008 18:19:46] <twm1010> I've been using the WMIv2 Zenpack and am getting oodles of good data from my windows boxes
[07-Jan-2008 18:19:59] <MoreDakka> WMI requires username and password though doesn't it?
[07-Jan-2008 18:20:07] <MoreDakka> <never worked with WMI>
[07-Jan-2008 18:20:49] <twm1010> Yes
[07-Jan-2008 18:21:08] <MoreDakka> That's something we have never configured. WMI needs to be installed right?
[07-Jan-2008 18:21:28] <twm1010> No, WMI is installed by default.
[07-Jan-2008 18:22:17] <twm1010> You're using Zenoss to monitor someone else's equipment then?
[07-Jan-2008 18:22:24] <MoreDakka> That is correct.
[07-Jan-2008 18:23:42] <twm1010> Gotcha, so the idea is to not be very intrusive correct?
[07-Jan-2008 18:24:45] <MoreDakka> That is correct. We have the SNMP-Informant installed on the servers now. I'm logged into their machines to see if WMI installed. Sorry for my lack of knowledge in this area but would that be under Add/Remove Windows Components?
[07-Jan-2008 18:25:40] <twm1010> WMI is installed and activated by default
[07-Jan-2008 18:25:44] <twm1010> its a core component of windows
[07-Jan-2008 18:26:18] <twm1010> Go into Services, scroll all the way to the bottom
[07-Jan-2008 18:26:22] <twm1010> you'll see it running
[07-Jan-2008 18:26:29] <twm1010> (Windows Management Instrumentation)
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:15] <MoreDakka> Well look at that... ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:26] <twm1010> Does the account you were given have Admin access?
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:32] <MoreDakka> Yep
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:44] <twm1010> Are they running active directory?
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:50] <MoreDakka> Does wmi requre and account that is admin?
[07-Jan-2008 18:27:51] <MoreDakka> Yes.
[07-Jan-2008 18:28:10] <twm1010> Now, is that account a "domain admin" ?
[07-Jan-2008 18:28:30] <twm1010> Ideally, it should not be.
[07-Jan-2008 18:28:53] <twm1010> I would hope they simply gave that account admin access on each individual server, or the necessary rights via group policy
[07-Jan-2008 18:30:07] <MoreDakka> My account is a domain admin.
[07-Jan-2008 18:31:01] <MoreDakka> but if we wanted to monitor via wmi we would have a seperate account created that has restricted access, correct?
[07-Jan-2008 18:31:14] <twm1010> Right, thats the correct way to do it
[07-Jan-2008 18:31:51] <twm1010> but for the sake of seeing how this works, you could use the account they gave you
[07-Jan-2008 18:32:19] <twm1010> the risk of it, is if your Zenoss machine is compromised, the attacker has the keys to their kingdom
[07-Jan-2008 18:32:38] <MoreDakka> Ah alright. I think, for now anyways, I'll recommend to use SNMP Traps for the server management and make a recommendation to get a WMI user going later.
[07-Jan-2008 18:33:32] <twm1010> Sure, even XP has WMI though, so get it going on your own workstation or something, and then set the username/password of your own box in the zproperties of your workstation
[07-Jan-2008 18:33:52] <MoreDakka> I don't think our box is compromised but I don't like to take that risk. Ah, good idea...I'll try that out
[07-Jan-2008 18:34:54] <twm1010> You'll get almost an obnoxious amount of information after that
[07-Jan-2008 18:35:10] <twm1010> For instance, I can tell you that the groupwise mail client has crashed on my terminal server 122 times today
[07-Jan-2008 18:35:22] <MoreDakka> haha
[07-Jan-2008 18:36:04] <twm1010> Once I get my netware performance template done, I'm going to start in to see what I can get from DellOpenManage,HPInsightManager, and IBMDirector
[07-Jan-2008 18:36:12] <twm1010> we use all three here, its mind boggling
[07-Jan-2008 18:36:29] <MoreDakka> Does zenoss store the wmi password encrypted?
[07-Jan-2008 18:37:38] <MoreDakka> How do you model a device using WMI only. Just turn off SNMP on that device?
[07-Jan-2008 18:39:36] <twm1010> I don't believe the modeling is done via WMI
[07-Jan-2008 18:39:40] <twm1010> that still comes from SNMP
[07-Jan-2008 18:42:19] <twm1010> i could be wrong though.
[07-Jan-2008 18:42:29] <MoreDakka> Oh, alright. Sooooo......WMI is polled how often?
[07-Jan-2008 18:43:28] <MoreDakka> (sorry, haven't done any WMI monitoring in Zenoss yet)
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:04] <twm1010> probably 3 to 5 minutes
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:13] <twm1010> i think its 5
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:22] <MoreDakka> Ah, I'll just wait for a bit and see if it generates some cool stuff for me.
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:51] <MoreDakka> If SNMP on all the machines are set to RO then Zenoss is non-intrusive right?
[07-Jan-2008 18:48:55] <twm1010> if you're just using the base zenoss configuration, really all you'll get is events
[07-Jan-2008 18:49:22] <twm1010> thats right, the only intrustion being the network utilization to answer the query, which is minimal
[07-Jan-2008 18:49:54] <MoreDakka> Well, Zenoss cannot make any changes to the machines with the SNMP being RO, correct?
[07-Jan-2008 18:53:13] <klinstifen> anyone know how to reset the dashboard to original configuration?
[07-Jan-2008 18:54:21] <klinstifen> the dashboard is blank for all users
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[07-Jan-2008 20:11:10] <twm1010> heh, just told zenmib to load about 500mibs at once...
[07-Jan-2008 20:11:11] <twm1010> its taking.... a while
[07-Jan-2008 20:54:31] <grogan> hmm
[07-Jan-2008 20:55:29] <grogan> defined a few customized commands under processes/administration/define commands.
[07-Jan-2008 20:55:49] <grogan> alongside the default dns forward,reverse, ping, snmpwalk traceroute.
[07-Jan-2008 20:56:04] <grogan> but those suckers aren't showing up anywhere else to run.
[07-Jan-2008 20:56:14] <grogan> is there a way to get them to show up elsewhere?
[07-Jan-2008 21:05:33] <tijmen> hi everybody
[07-Jan-2008 21:06:16] <tijmen> does anybody know how to create a monthly report with the traffic volume of a certain interface?
[07-Jan-2008 21:14:53] <MoreDakka> If a new service is added to a box, how long will it take Zenoss to notice the service is there and start monitoring it? Is there a way to force a refresh?
[07-Jan-2008 21:28:13] <klinstifen> MoreDakka: did you enable monitoring on that service after you added it?
[07-Jan-2008 21:29:44] <MoreDakka> well imap is being monitored on other boxes so it will be enabled for monitoring on the server.
[07-Jan-2008 21:32:07] <klinstifen> oh
[07-Jan-2008 21:32:43] <MoreDakka> Is that correct?
[07-Jan-2008 21:33:13] <johns55> should be instant if yr using snmp
[07-Jan-2008 21:33:38] <MoreDakka> I'm just wondering if it will grab it on the next polling cycle.
[07-Jan-2008 21:33:56] <johns55> it should be instant if ur using snmp
[07-Jan-2008 21:34:13] <johns55> did u add it manually?
[07-Jan-2008 21:34:19] <johns55> as an ipservice or process?
[07-Jan-2008 21:34:51] <MoreDakka> Nope, it imap is in by default in zenoss.
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:11] <grogan> hmmm figured it out.
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:12] <johns55> what?
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:30] <grogan> oh. the problem I was having
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:31] <grogan> heh
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:45] <johns55> i mean MoreDakka: wjat?
[07-Jan-2008 21:35:51] <grogan> oh. heh
[07-Jan-2008 21:36:33] <MoreDakka> You asked if I installed it manually, the imap service (in zenoss) is there by default for monitoring.
[07-Jan-2008 21:37:21] <johns55> yes it detected imap automatically after u modeled it?
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:00] <MoreDakka> Don't know yet, our client hasn't installed imap yet so I'm waiting but I want to make sure that I'm going to be able to find it once he installs it.
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:10] <johns55> yes of course
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:17] <johns55> once he installs imap
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:28] <johns55> u can remodel the device and it should auto pick up as an ipservice
[07-Jan-2008 21:39:43] <johns55> if not, just add the ipservice manually
[07-Jan-2008 21:40:40] <MoreDakka> Alright, that's cool ;-) Thanks johns55
[07-Jan-2008 21:43:55] <mGryphon> Hi.
[07-Jan-2008 21:48:46] <mGryphon> I'm looking for some help with Zenoss...?
[07-Jan-2008 21:49:14] <MoreDakka> just ask the question that is on your mind and usually the person that will know the answer will answer ;-)
[07-Jan-2008 21:50:32] <mGryphon> Ahh okay. :> I'm having trouble adding users or networks or anything but devices (because that has an "add" button right on the left. None of the other tables do.
[07-Jan-2008 21:52:47] <mGryphon> I've read the docs and they say that there's this drop down menu... which isn't on any of the tables... and a UI Changes spreadsheet which suggests that there is an "add" at the bottom of various tables, but that's not there either.
[07-Jan-2008 21:54:32] <klinstifen> To add devices...look at the lower-left of the main screen
[07-Jan-2008 21:54:37] <klinstifen> there's a link "Add Device"
[07-Jan-2008 21:54:55] <klinstifen> To add users...click on Settings at the lower-left of the main screen
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:00] <klinstifen> then click the Users tab
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:14] <klinstifen> and there's either a button or a down arrow (drop down)
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:18] <klinstifen> that will have the add user feature
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:35] <klinstifen> the drop down is specific for each thing you are looking at
[07-Jan-2008 21:55:46] <klinstifen> mGryphon: make sense?
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:07] <mGryphon> Add Device I got. I click settings then the users tab and there is no button or down arrow, though.
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:49] <klinstifen> after you click on Users
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:56] <mGryphon> correct
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:57] <klinstifen> it should say admin somwhere on the screen
[07-Jan-2008 21:57:58] <klinstifen> right?
[07-Jan-2008 21:58:20] <klinstifen> does it list you admin account?
[07-Jan-2008 21:58:30] <mGryphon> There is a "Users" table (shows "Admin") and a "Group" table (shows nothing but the table header)
[07-Jan-2008 21:58:59] <klinstifen> ok...what is directly left of the word "users"
[07-Jan-2008 21:59:21] <mGryphon> nothing
[07-Jan-2008 21:59:35] <mGryphon> just a blue expanse
[07-Jan-2008 22:00:17] <klinstifen> to the right...is there a field where you could perform a search?
[07-Jan-2008 22:00:23] <mGryphon> yes
[07-Jan-2008 22:01:12] <grogan> weird
[07-Jan-2008 22:01:24] <grogan> I'm getting these error 1040's now.
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:06] <klinstifen> mGryphon: what if you click the zenpacks tab
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:06] <grogan> too many connections when trying to run some scheduled sql selects to check on processing status.
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:21] <klinstifen> is there an arrow to the left of "Loaded Zen Packs"?
[07-Jan-2008 22:02:38] <mGryphon> no
[07-Jan-2008 22:03:09] <klinstifen> is the latest version of flash installed? what os and browser you using?
[07-Jan-2008 22:04:37] <mGryphon> IE 7 and Firefox on XP SP2 and Firefox on CentOS. I'll check the flash version. :>
[07-Jan-2008 22:08:46] <klinstifen> mGryphon: i gotta take off, but try searching the forums...i remember seeing something like that before but i can't find the exact post right now
[07-Jan-2008 22:08:47] <klinstifen> gl
[07-Jan-2008 22:08:59] <mGryphon> okay. thanks.
[07-Jan-2008 22:15:54] <grogan> oops.
[07-Jan-2008 22:16:03] <grogan> stupid sessions not exiting gracefully.
[07-Jan-2008 22:26:30] <mGryphon> Gotta go myself. I'll look at it again tomorrow.
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[08-Jan-2008 01:15:13] <nasx> has anyone successfully implemented a data collector plugin or zen pack for network appliance devices yet?
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[08-Jan-2008 12:09:28] <shibby_laptop> re you joining the bnw 2.0 call?
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[08-Jan-2008 12:18:29] <spacenerve> hi, i've been tasked with helping some1 evaluate zenoss ... which theyv installed alrdy .... i'm trying to setup a nagios plugin per instructions here -> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates/ <- but there's no 'perfconf' tab on my device, why would that be? :O
[08-Jan-2008 12:18:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-Jan-2008 12:58:43] <MovoS> hi, Ive just installed 2.1.2 and am getting 11 localhost.localdomain events from the heartbeat eventClass
[08-Jan-2008 12:59:43] <MovoS> server is on centos5 using virtual infrastructure 2.0.1
[08-Jan-2008 13:00:22] <MovoS> hosts file is: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
[08-Jan-2008 13:00:29] <MovoS> 172.19.23.135 zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 13:00:58] <MovoS> Any help or links greatly appreciated, thanks.
[08-Jan-2008 13:52:22] <klinstifen> anyone running centos5.1
[08-Jan-2008 13:52:24] <klinstifen> ?
[08-Jan-2008 14:13:31] <klinstifen> is it possible to reset the dashboard...reset it back to default settings?
[08-Jan-2008 14:40:23] <twm1010> klin:i poked around, didn't see anywhere to do that
[08-Jan-2008 14:43:33] <klinstifen> gar!
[08-Jan-2008 14:43:54] <klinstifen> that's the only aspect of my upgrade i have yet to resolve
[08-Jan-2008 14:46:30] <klinstifen> twm1010: how about adding portlets? got any ideas?
[08-Jan-2008 14:46:40] <klinstifen> my add portlets is blank too
[08-Jan-2008 15:01:55] <TheDeviant> Hey all...
[08-Jan-2008 15:15:37] <mGryphon> Hello again.
[08-Jan-2008 15:16:14] <mGryphon> Klinstifen: I'm still having the same issues you were helping me with yesterday. Updated to the latest flash, but I still have no way to add users, etc.
[08-Jan-2008 15:18:10] <mGryphon> I looked in the forums, but the only things I saw were bugs that look like they should have been fixed by 2.1.2
[08-Jan-2008 15:32:28] <twm1010> Have you tried to clear your browser cache, just curious
[08-Jan-2008 15:45:21] <klinstifen> mGryphon; is this a new install of zenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 15:49:13] <mGryphon> back.. sorry. yes, its a new install
[08-Jan-2008 15:50:48] <mGryphon> I did just find something in the forum which seems to describe the problem, perhaps.... but no solution. There is an error when I go to Settings->Menus
[08-Jan-2008 15:54:10] <mGryphon> I get the same error posted at http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2669&highlight=menus
[08-Jan-2008 15:56:12] <aurax> hello
[08-Jan-2008 15:56:19] <mGryphon> oh and yes, ive tried clearing the browser cache
[08-Jan-2008 15:56:33] <aurax> can anyone help out in setting up snmp for zenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 15:57:18] <twm1010> i'll help you
[08-Jan-2008 16:00:11] <aurax> thx
[08-Jan-2008 16:00:23] <aurax> i haven't figured out how to set it.. so i don't really know where to start..
[08-Jan-2008 16:00:32] <aurax> i got zenoss server up and running perfectly as it seems
[08-Jan-2008 16:01:53] <aurax> twm1010?
[08-Jan-2008 16:06:31] <rakATzenoss> aurax -- there?
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:17] <aurax> yeh
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:33] <rakATzenoss> so, you want to add your first device?
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:38] <aurax> yep
[08-Jan-2008 16:07:57] <rakATzenoss> cool. what type of device are you looking to add?
[08-Jan-2008 16:08:32] <rakATzenoss> network device like a router or a server?
[08-Jan-2008 16:08:45] <aurax> linux box
[08-Jan-2008 16:08:57] <aurax> server...
[08-Jan-2008 16:09:15] <rakATzenoss> what distro are you running
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:00] <aurax> this one is running ubuntu 7 server
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:02] <aurax> edition*
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:13] <aurax> 7.04 i think
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:35] <aurax> and i got snmp&snmpd deb packages installed and running
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:41] <rakATzenoss> great.
[08-Jan-2008 16:10:54] <rakATzenoss> have you done any configuration on these modules? setup the community string?
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:35] <aurax> nope
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:36] <aurax> nadda
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:37] <rakATzenoss> You'll also want to config syslog (whichever version ubuntu server is using) to forward messages to your zenoss server.
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:39] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:49] <rakATzenoss> well, let's just leave is for now.
[08-Jan-2008 16:11:56] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:16] <rakATzenoss> so in zenoss, you're going to click the "add device" menu item under the "Management" category on the left nav menu.
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:18] <twm1010> sorry about that aurax,got called away :|
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:28] <aurax> ah its okay twm1010
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:40] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:12:46] <aurax> (wb)
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:06] <aurax> i'm there rakATzenoss
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:13] <rakATzenoss> so in this form, you'll want to provide the device name -- this can be a resolving host name or IP address.
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:15] <twm1010> rak seems to know more linux voodoo then i do, you're probably better off with him
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:33] <aurax> hehe
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:40] <rakATzenoss> no voodoo here!
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:40] <aurax> okay i got the hostname and all
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:45] <aurax> choosed server/linux
[08-Jan-2008 16:13:58] <rakATzenoss> great enter "Public" for the Snmp community...
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:00] <aurax> snmp community public
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:06] <aurax> case sensitive?
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:18] <rakATzenoss> yes
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:22] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:36] <rakATzenoss> click Add Device
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:44] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:14:49] <aurax> waiting
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:27] <rakATzenoss> now in the left nav menu, click "Device Llist"
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:41] <aurax> no snmp found for ip
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:43] <aurax> uhm
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:43] <rakATzenoss> you should see the device you just added in this list.
[08-Jan-2008 16:15:56] <rakATzenoss> eh, maybe the service didn't get started in ubuntu.
[08-Jan-2008 16:16:17] <aurax> jah saying cannot open /var/proc something
[08-Jan-2008 16:16:20] <aurax> sec ill have a look
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:10] <aurax> oh okay
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:17] <aurax> its crying abuot ipv6
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:19] <rakATzenoss> in the meantime, I'm firing up an ubuntu box.
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:20] <aurax> i disabled it
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:28] <aurax> alright
[08-Jan-2008 16:17:51] <rakATzenoss> to retry the modeling step, click your device in the device list...
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:12] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:24] <aurax> it's not there
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:27] <aurax> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:29] <rakATzenoss> ah ok...
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:37] <rakATzenoss> try re-adding.
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:40] <aurax> how should i configure snmp on the remote ?
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:53] <aurax> install it is enough?
[08-Jan-2008 16:18:57] <rakATzenoss> that's what I'm looking at now.
[08-Jan-2008 16:19:07] <rakATzenoss> got ubuntu running here now.
[08-Jan-2008 16:19:10] <rakATzenoss> let's see here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:19:42] <rakATzenoss> i'm fairly certain it's installed with the default community of "public"
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:26] <aurax> ah yeh
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:35] <aurax> still saying no snmp found for ...
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:43] <twm1010> firewall?
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:52] <twm1010> port 161 must be open
[08-Jan-2008 16:20:53] <rakATzenoss> box on the same net segment?
[08-Jan-2008 16:21:22] <aurax> no firewall..
[08-Jan-2008 16:21:25] <aurax> and it's not opend
[08-Jan-2008 16:22:17] <aurax> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 16:22:31] <rakATzenoss> hold on a sec... I'll be where you are in a sec here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:22:37] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:38] <aurax> oh
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:39] <aurax> i know why
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:42] <aurax> it assigned to 127.0.0.1
[08-Jan-2008 16:23:45] <aurax> lame /etc/hosts
[08-Jan-2008 16:24:33] <aurax> nope... still not working
[08-Jan-2008 16:24:45] <rakATzenoss> ok, give me a sec -- just installed snmp in my ubuntu vm
[08-Jan-2008 16:24:53] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:17] <rakATzenoss> make sure snmpd is started...
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:28] <rakATzenoss> run: //
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:29] <rakATzenoss> run /
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:37] <rakATzenoss> run /etc/init.d/snmpd start
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:47] <aurax> it's started
[08-Jan-2008 16:25:51] <aurax> no binding to ip tho
[08-Jan-2008 16:26:25] <rakATzenoss> your netconfig is ok on this server right?
[08-Jan-2008 16:26:56] <aurax> sure
[08-Jan-2008 16:28:30] <aurax> mtu 9000 should interfear right?
[08-Jan-2008 16:28:35] <aurax> shouldn't
[08-Jan-2008 16:29:12] <rakATzenoss> no.
[08-Jan-2008 16:29:50] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:16] <aurax> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:49] <rakATzenoss> oh right -- we need to run snmpconf
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:54] <aurax> oo
[08-Jan-2008 16:30:56] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:04] <rakATzenoss> this basically sets up snmpd.conf on the server.
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:18] <aurax> yep, i'm there.
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:41] <aurax> access control setup ?
[08-Jan-2008 16:31:56] <rakATzenoss> yes -- need to allow public access to snmp
[08-Jan-2008 16:32:24] <aurax> so it's snmpv1/snmpv2... read-write access..
[08-Jan-2008 16:32:30] <aurax> and choose public all unrestricted
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:26] <rakATzenoss> I wouldn't allow write access -- but for testing purposes, might be fine.
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:31] <aurax> there is still no port assigned...
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:34] <rakATzenoss> I'm assuming this is not a production server.
[08-Jan-2008 16:33:40] <aurax> its not opening port...
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:09] <aurax> maybe i need libnet-snmp ?
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:41] <rakATzenoss> nah.
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:46] <rakATzenoss> it's just the setup here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:35:53] <rakATzenoss> getting it going now
[08-Jan-2008 16:38:55] <aurax> -x port name
[08-Jan-2008 16:38:59] <aurax> jap working
[08-Jan-2008 16:39:10] <aurax> "device jupiter loaded!"
[08-Jan-2008 16:41:00] <klinstifen> anyone ever experience YAHOO.zenoss.portlet.ProdStatePortlet is not a constructor?
[08-Jan-2008 16:43:38] <aurax> rakATzenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 16:43:45] <rakATzenoss> yeah I'm here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:43:51] <rakATzenoss> still looking at unbuntu
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:41] <aurax> seems like default snmp installion in ubuntu does not specify ip
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:42] <aurax> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p /var/run/snmpd.pid -x 162'
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:46] <aurax> to fix in init.d script
[08-Jan-2008 16:44:59] <rakATzenoss> lovely.
[08-Jan-2008 16:45:06] <aurax> yeh..
[08-Jan-2008 16:46:49] <rakATzenoss> btw, that should be port 161.
[08-Jan-2008 16:47:21] <aurax> oh
[08-Jan-2008 16:52:55] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:01] <aurax> everything work's here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:09] <rakATzenoss> what did you have to mod?
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:22] <rakATzenoss> something's up with ubuntu here.
[08-Jan-2008 16:53:35] <rakATzenoss> doesn't seem to be binding snmpd to the right ip.
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:08] <aurax> i modded the init.d script
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:22] <aurax> see the SNMPDOPTS variable
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:37] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:42] <aurax> that's the one
[08-Jan-2008 16:54:53] <aurax> and add your hostname to external ip in /etc/hosts
[08-Jan-2008 16:55:23] <rakATzenoss> oh christ..
[08-Jan-2008 16:55:43] <aurax> jah
[08-Jan-2008 16:57:38] <aurax> weird now it's down again
[08-Jan-2008 16:58:27] <rakATzenoss> I'm bouncing ubunty
[08-Jan-2008 17:00:25] <mGryphon> klinstifen: any more ideas of what I might try?
[08-Jan-2008 17:01:09] <klinstifen> mGryphon: what os is zenoss install on?
[08-Jan-2008 17:01:17] <mGryphon> Centos 5
[08-Jan-2008 17:01:36] <aurax> ok found it
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:31] <rakATzenoss> what you find?
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:44] <aurax> it's working but binding to 0.0.0.0
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:54] <rakATzenoss> that's better than localhost
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:56] <aurax> but it's working...
[08-Jan-2008 17:02:58] <klinstifen> Gryph: i dunno...right now i am stuggling with cent myself
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:05] <klinstifen> my dashboard is missing
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:32] <mGryphon> My dashboard is present. (I think) Just those pesky buttons.
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:54] <aurax> in /etc/default/snmpd
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:55] <aurax> # snmpd options (use syslog, close stdin/out/err).
[08-Jan-2008 17:03:55] <aurax> SNMPDOPTS='-Lsd -Lf /dev/null -x 161 -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 10.10.50.122'
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:00] <klinstifen> gryph: is is only those buttons or anything with the down arrow?
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:14] <mGryphon> There are no down arrows anywhere
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:33] <mGryphon> so far as I know, that's it.. But it makes it difficult to do much with the system.
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:39] <rakATzenoss> damn.
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:40] <rakATzenoss> ok
[08-Jan-2008 17:04:49] <twm1010> klinst: have you tried accessing the dashboard from another computer?
[08-Jan-2008 17:05:52] <rakATzenoss> wow -- I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be the feel-good distro!
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:08] <rakATzenoss> cool, so zenoos modeled your server right?
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:10] <aurax> lol
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:15] <aurax> yep
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:16] <klinstifen> twm: yes I have...no dice
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:18] <rakATzenoss> terrfic.
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:23] <aurax> but i still see in zenoss device list
[08-Jan-2008 17:06:26] <aurax> that snmp is red flaged
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:18] <rakATzenoss> that might be related tot he specific snmp setup...
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:25] <aurax> ok
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:32] <rakATzenoss> this is where the snmpdconf comes into play...
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:48] <rakATzenoss> of course, if you're familiar with snmp it's easier to mod the snmpd.conf file...
[08-Jan-2008 17:07:59] <aurax> jap
[08-Jan-2008 17:09:07] <aurax> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 17:09:09] <aurax> so what's next?
[08-Jan-2008 17:09:53] <rakATzenoss> try setting up syslog on your ubuntu server to forward messages to zenoss.
[08-Jan-2008 17:11:01] <MoreDakka> Any cisco ACL guru's here?
[08-Jan-2008 17:11:41] <aurax> brb have to reconnect
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[08-Jan-2008 17:27:43] <aurax_> rakATzenoss, done..
[08-Jan-2008 17:27:49] <rakATzenoss> cool.
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:13] <rakATzenoss> done being the syslog redirection?
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:22] <aurax_> yes, how do i check it ?
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:27] <rakATzenoss> to test, try su'ing a few times.
[08-Jan-2008 17:28:44] <rakATzenoss> of course, enter the wrong pass.
[08-Jan-2008 17:29:37] <aurax_> i see event console
[08-Jan-2008 17:30:01] <rakATzenoss> go to the device.
[08-Jan-2008 17:30:24] <rakATzenoss> then on the box, do a su - and enter the wrong pass.
[08-Jan-2008 17:30:33] <rakATzenoss> usually throws a syslog alert.
[08-Jan-2008 17:31:00] <rakATzenoss> you'll see one of the color indicators increment on the device page after a refresh
[08-Jan-2008 17:31:34] <aurax_> yeh
[08-Jan-2008 17:31:43] <aurax_> i can see in the event console the box syslog
[08-Jan-2008 17:33:44] <aurax_> what else can i do with zenoss ?
[08-Jan-2008 17:33:45] <aurax_>
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:10] <rakATzenoss> heh, this is a nice test for me -- I start fulltime at zenoss next week!
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:16] <rakATzenoss>
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:26] <aurax_> work there?
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:30] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:32] <aurax_> ah nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:36] <aurax_> good luck mate
[08-Jan-2008 17:34:54] <rakATzenoss> so, take a look at the process monitoring stuff.
[08-Jan-2008 17:35:14] <rakATzenoss> very cool for keeping on tabs of any processes running on a device
[08-Jan-2008 17:35:23] <rakATzenoss> also, try adding a network device running snmp.
[08-Jan-2008 17:36:09] <aurax_> nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:36:10] <aurax_> ok
[08-Jan-2008 17:36:47] <rakATzenoss> there are also some cool zenpacks and a great supporting community.
[08-Jan-2008 17:37:21] <rakATzenoss> another nice real world use-case might be to use the http monitor to monitor a Web site's status.
[08-Jan-2008 17:40:19] <aurax_> nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:40:22] <aurax_> this seems really cool
[08-Jan-2008 17:40:47] <rakATzenoss> it's really a great product.
[08-Jan-2008 17:41:23] <rakATzenoss> the extensibility is key...
[08-Jan-2008 17:41:44] <rakATzenoss> We're going to see some very cool zenpacks coming this year.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:09] <twm1010> I really hope so.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:16] <twm1010> the WMI one helped me out big-time
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:24] <rakATzenoss> great.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:30] <twm1010> I'm working on a Netware one right now.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:37] <rakATzenoss> very nice.
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:49] <rakATzenoss> you got it up on the zenoss server?
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:52] <twm1010> I'm having trouble deciding what to monitor though, besides CPU performance
[08-Jan-2008 17:44:57] <rakATzenoss> publicize it -- you'll get a ton of help.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:09] <rakATzenoss> on a netware server???
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:16] <rakATzenoss> storage usage.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:30] <rakATzenoss> that's HUGE.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:34] <twm1010> Yeah, I've really just got more reading to do, on how to get it to model devices, and recognize things
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:40] <rakATzenoss> network connections.
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:51] <rakATzenoss> err rather open network connections...
[08-Jan-2008 17:45:51] <twm1010> I can pull everything I need using the nagios plug-in check_nwstat
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:06] <twm1010> SNMP data seems kind of inconsistent between my servers
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:11] * rakATzenoss thinking back to the mid-nineties and netware headaches...
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:16] <twm1010> almost like some of them don't support the host-resources mib
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:30] <rakATzenoss> running the same version of netware?
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:35] <rakATzenoss> same build level and all?
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:41] <twm1010> yeah, but all from different upgrade scenarios
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:47] <rakATzenoss> ah interesting.
[08-Jan-2008 17:46:55] <twm1010> for instance my two servers here on-site were upgrades from v.4, to v5, to 6.5
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:00] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:04] <twm1010> whereas the ones at HQ are 5.1 to 6.5
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:12] <twm1010> some are open enterprise, some are not
[08-Jan-2008 17:47:30] <rakATzenoss> netware invented inconsistency after upgrades... ms perfected it.
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:05] <twm1010> Hah, well I think the Zenpack will be a mix of methods, i think performance may come from the nagios plug-in, but storage information/modeling may come from SNMP
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:37] <rakATzenoss> well, like I said, don't be afraid to publicize -- I'm sure there are many others out there that can lend a hand.
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:46] <twm1010> I just moved my Zenoss VM from an old server to a very, VERY, powerful ESX box, things are moving nicely now.
[08-Jan-2008 17:48:58] <rakATzenoss> heh, I run mine on a macbook pro.
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:11] <rakATzenoss> er. my zenoss vm
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:22] <rakATzenoss> and my client boxes.
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:38] <twm1010> nice
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:39] <rakATzenoss> I'm a mad-man when it comes to VMs...
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:45] <twm1010> did you have to expand the virtual disk size?
[08-Jan-2008 17:49:55] <rakATzenoss> nah.
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:04] <rakATzenoss> but you do have to specify the memory.
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:14] <twm1010> mine filled up in about a week
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:16] <rakATzenoss> that for some reason doesn't get stored with the vmware appliance.
[08-Jan-2008 17:50:38] <rakATzenoss> check your logging levels.
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:09] <twm1010> Actually, I've been wondering, where is data retention configured? How much history does Zenoss keep? Is it different for perf data than for events?
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:31] <rakATzenoss> we had a case come thru support recently where a baracuda spam server with a low log threshold filled the zenoss db.
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:54] <rakATzenoss> mysql is used to store events.
[08-Jan-2008 17:51:55] <rakATzenoss> I
[08-Jan-2008 17:52:11] <rakATzenoss> 'm not sure how events are offloaded if at all.
[08-Jan-2008 17:52:41] <rakATzenoss> as far as perf data, i <believe> it is stored using rrd
[08-Jan-2008 17:53:46] <rakATzenoss> of course I should add the disclaimer that I start officially at zenoss next week, so my knowledge is not up to speed.
[08-Jan-2008 17:54:08] <rakATzenoss> if you need a more solid answer, post your question to the zenoss forums.
[08-Jan-2008 17:54:24] <twm1010> Well. Ihaven't approached zenpack creation yet, I'll be starting that soon. Netware is dying a slow death, I'm sure some people will want it
[08-Jan-2008 17:54:32] <twm1010> S
[08-Jan-2008 17:55:16] <rakATzenoss> it works -- just add storage. Use zenoss to prove your case that it's dead.
[08-Jan-2008 17:55:18] <twm1010> We use a lot of Novell stuff here. I may see about a Groupwise and BorderManager Zenpack as well
[08-Jan-2008 17:55:39] <rakATzenoss> Groupwise would be cool -- never used BorderManager.
[08-Jan-2008 17:56:22] <twm1010> Well groupwise comes with SNMP goodies, I would love to track mail statistics across the POAs
[08-Jan-2008 17:57:27] <MuseHome> My log is filled with. "skipping WinServer has bad wmi state" any ideas?
[08-Jan-2008 17:57:48] <rakATzenoss> this is on one server in particular?
[08-Jan-2008 17:58:22] <rakATzenoss> I'd love to start a directory of snmp-enabled hardware/software.
[08-Jan-2008 17:58:34] <MuseHome> humm this might be the 2000 problem..
[08-Jan-2008 17:58:42] <rakATzenoss> It would be an ambitious process, but extremely helpful to zenoss users.
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:01] <twm1010> I imported like 600 mibs yesterday, it took maybe 30 minutes
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:03] <rakATzenoss> 2000 problem?
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:17] <rakATzenoss> not bad at all.
[08-Jan-2008 17:59:28] <MuseHome> "Zenwin does not currently work on Windows 2000"
[08-Jan-2008 18:00:00] <rakATzenoss> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:00:08] <MuseHome> but I've lost all my WMI data. last week. found wmic running at 90%
[08-Jan-2008 18:01:47] <twm1010> Try restarting the WMI service?
[08-Jan-2008 18:02:18] <MuseHome> and I had to kill zenwinmodeler
[08-Jan-2008 18:02:30] <MuseHome> would not restart or stop.
[08-Jan-2008 18:02:56] <MuseHome> is wmi in zenwinmodeler?
[08-Jan-2008 18:03:33] <twm1010> well wmic is the command zenoss uses to query WMI
[08-Jan-2008 18:04:30] <MuseHome> right but what modul calls it?
[08-Jan-2008 18:06:43] <twm1010> zenwinmodeler would certainly call it
[08-Jan-2008 18:07:05] <twm1010> and maybe zenwin ?
[08-Jan-2008 18:07:58] Tinoza735 is now known as Tinozaure
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:19] <MuseHome> on that I killed it and restarted zenoss. I dont' see any wmic processes. ps -ef | grep wmic
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:37] <twm1010> well, i don't think wmic would be running all the time
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:41] <twm1010> only when executing a query
[08-Jan-2008 18:10:57] <twm1010> it happens so fast,it's be pretty hard to catch it
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:21] <twm1010> did you try restarting the WMI service on the Windows machine that is generating the events?
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:35] <MuseHome> ok. so wmic setting in top running at 90 was realy bad :-)
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:48] <MuseHome> no I havn't.
[08-Jan-2008 18:11:57] <twm1010> Right, its not a complicated process, its really not much different than an SNMPGET
[08-Jan-2008 18:12:25] <MuseHome> do you happen to know what log the wmic info would be in?
[08-Jan-2008 18:12:27] <twm1010> it provides the windows box supplied credentials and says "what is this value?" its a text transaction, should have little to no overhead
[08-Jan-2008 18:12:29] <grogan> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:13:07] <twm1010> Well I should say the end result isn't much different than an SNMPget, WMI certainly is a bit different under the hood
[08-Jan-2008 18:13:50] <MuseHome> sure...
[08-Jan-2008 18:14:01] <twm1010> couldn't tell you which log...probably zenwinmodeler or zenwin
[08-Jan-2008 18:14:30] <grogan> is there a command line way to generate missing rrd files
[08-Jan-2008 18:14:51] <twm1010> grogan: they were there before and are now gone? or are these new datapoints?
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:01] <grogan> no. they weren't there before
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:09] <grogan> didn't have rrdtool installed earlier.
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:15] <twm1010> they will autogenerate as soon as it starts pulling data
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:32] <twm1010> your graphs say something like data file missing ?
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:36] <grogan> is there a way to kickstart that process?
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:37] <grogan> eah.
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:39] <grogan> yeah
[08-Jan-2008 18:15:55] <twm1010> not really, two succesful queries and you should be on your way
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:07] <twm1010> i mean, there might be.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:12] <twm1010> i just don't know
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:16] <grogan> yeah, it's been that way overnight.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:26] <twm1010> ok, then its not getting good data from the client
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:31] <grogan> yeah. hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:43] <grogan> this is simple stuff too, like cpu idle .etc.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:50] <grogan> stuff that cacti is currently already picking up.
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:55] <twm1010> over SNMP?
[08-Jan-2008 18:16:58] <grogan> yup
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:13] <twm1010> did you set the community under Zproperties?
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:16] <grogan> yup
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:21] <grogan> community's already set properly
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:42] <grogan> it already is picking up all the interfaces, routes, etc
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:45] <grogan> just no graphing.
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:47] <twm1010> what OS?
[08-Jan-2008 18:17:52] <grogan> gentoo.
[08-Jan-2008 18:18:28] <twm1010> Very odd, i guarantee you its something really easy
[08-Jan-2008 18:18:34] <grogan> yeah no kidding
[08-Jan-2008 18:18:50] <grogan> been googling around for this stuff, and little that is relevant is popping up
[08-Jan-2008 18:19:32] <twm1010> Where did you set the comunnity, on the zproperties of the device or the device class?
[08-Jan-2008 18:19:41] <twm1010> well shoot the community is right, becase you said it had all that other info
[08-Jan-2008 18:21:44] <twm1010> Login to the zenoss server console, and try a manual snmpwalk, ala snmpwalk -v 1 -c yourcommunityname serverIP 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.10.1.5.2
[08-Jan-2008 18:22:04] <twm1010> that should return a value for CPU load over the past 5 mins
[08-Jan-2008 18:24:56] <MuseHome> Doesn't any one know waht "Clear Heardbeats" does?
[08-Jan-2008 18:28:16] <twm1010> I've used it when one of the Zenoss daemons has been restarted, but for some reason Zenoss still thinks it is down.
[08-Jan-2008 18:33:33] <MuseHome> So I can get wmic to get data from my systems but I'm not getting anything in the wmi graphs?
[08-Jan-2008 18:40:35] <grogan> yeah it returns that.
[08-Jan-2008 18:40:48] <twm1010> grogan: then it should work
[08-Jan-2008 18:40:52] <grogan> yeah go figure.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:02] <grogan> weird. maybe it was the sequence
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:12] <grogan> if I re-add, it might load the right things up.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:13] <twm1010> are there any events generated saying anything like snmp rejected or timed out or anything?
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:17] <grogan> nope.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:24] <grogan> gives routes, ip's. green all around.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:30] <grogan> just no graphs.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:37] <grogan> oh wait, one of the apc's graphs.
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:38] <grogan> heh
[08-Jan-2008 18:41:51] <grogan> and that was added way in the beginning.
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:05] <twm1010> odd, so none of your devices are showing graphs??
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:09] <grogan> yeah. go figure
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:17] <grogan> not very useful (as of yet)
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:18] <grogan> heh
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:26] <twm1010> and all the servers your monitoring are gentoo as well?
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:33] <grogan> yup
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:46] <twm1010> does localhost have performance data?
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:46] <grogan> the cacti stuff works perfectly.
[08-Jan-2008 18:42:50] <grogan> nope.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:00] <twm1010> i think you've got a daemon down maybe
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:07] <grogan> no. all daemons are up.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:08] <grogan> all 15 of them
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:17] <grogan> ran into that issue too.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:19] <twm1010> but zenoss can't even pull data from it's own host box, thats weird
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:21] <grogan> but got around that eventually.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:32] <grogan> well, it might be that something needs to get tweaked.
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:37] <grogan> some config somewhere, but not sure where
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:46] <twm1010> i never had to "install" rrdtool on my centos box when i was using that
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:52] <grogan> oh really? hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:54] <grogan> yeah. weird the
[08-Jan-2008 18:43:56] <grogan> then.
[08-Jan-2008 18:44:11] <twm1010> suggestion for you, install vmware, and run the virtual appliance
[08-Jan-2008 18:44:16] <grogan> heh. yeah go figure
[08-Jan-2008 18:51:54] <grogan> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 18:52:06] <grogan> what do you have under the zenoss/management/mibs?
[08-Jan-2008 18:52:15] <grogan> do you have a lot of mibs listed?
[08-Jan-2008 18:53:26] <twm1010> I have over 500, i added them yesterday
[08-Jan-2008 18:53:32] <twm1010> by default it will be fairly empty
[08-Jan-2008 18:55:15] <grogan> yeah, I saw none initially.
[08-Jan-2008 19:01:34] <mGryphon> klinstifen: Installed it on another CENTOS5 box and it seems to be working.
[08-Jan-2008 19:10:21] <twm1010> Boy those Zenoss forums crrrrrawwwll....
[08-Jan-2008 19:28:19] <twm1010> I'm a little unsure where to start to get Zenoss to model the netware filesystem
[08-Jan-2008 19:34:14] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[08-Jan-2008 19:54:54] <MuseHome> anything special about Perf tab data? I'm getting SNMP data under my ethernet interfaces. but no snmp CPU data under Pref or WMI free mem.
[08-Jan-2008 19:59:33] <johns55> should have cpu and memory too
[08-Jan-2008 20:00:26] <MuseHome> localhost (linux) is working. but my other systems (windows) are not.
[08-Jan-2008 20:00:45] <MuseHome> I'm checking the network devices now.
[08-Jan-2008 20:01:16] <johns55> u need to download the snmp informat
[08-Jan-2008 20:01:25] <johns55> for windows
[08-Jan-2008 20:02:57] <MuseHome> this was all working last week...
[08-Jan-2008 20:03:39] <MuseHome> So my routers are showing data in the Perf tab...
[08-Jan-2008 20:03:56] <johns55> do u have snmp informat installed for the windows machine?
[08-Jan-2008 20:04:54] <MuseHome> Yes. I had 120 or so windows systems working last week. with WMI data graphing. this week all the graphs just cut off.
[08-Jan-2008 20:05:14] <MuseHome> I've use the CLI to get the wmi connections and get good data back.
[08-Jan-2008 20:05:42] <johns55> so none exisit?
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:02] <johns55> have u tried a different browser? to view these graphs
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:09] <MuseHome> I have graphs. just no data sense last week.
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:26] <twm1010> Are you sure your password stored in zProperties didn't expire?
[08-Jan-2008 20:06:59] <twm1010> go into zProperties of /Devices/Windows, and retype both the username and password and then give it a few minutes
[08-Jan-2008 20:07:00] <MuseHome> I used the one I had set last week at the command line.
[08-Jan-2008 20:07:19] <MuseHome> do they time on in zenoss?
[08-Jan-2008 20:07:37] <twm1010> Nope, but maybe on the windows side they did?
[08-Jan-2008 20:08:25] <MuseHome> I'll give it a try.
[08-Jan-2008 20:09:28] <MuseHome> I'm thinking I may have done something to a template.
[08-Jan-2008 20:21:09] <MuseHome> in my zencommand.log I see INFO: zen.zencommand: Deleting command WINSERVER from $PATH_TO/check_wimc_memport.pl "IP" "uname" "pword". What is that doing?
[08-Jan-2008 20:21:18] <MuseHome> Looks like I have one for each server...
[08-Jan-2008 20:23:11] <MuseHome> What ever that is it what killed my graphs. it's time stamp is the same as the last graph plot point.
[08-Jan-2008 20:27:45] <MuseHome> 2008-01-02 21:36:39 INFO zen.zencommand: Deleting command NYFS01BR01 from $ZENHOME/Products/WindowsWMIDeviceTemplateV2/libexec/check_wmic_memory.pl "10.124.1.20"
[08-Jan-2008 20:28:01] <MuseHome> does anyone know what that did?
[08-Jan-2008 20:29:49] <grogan> hmm intteresting
[08-Jan-2008 20:30:33] <grogan> running zenperfsnmp with verbose mode shows that there's a set of devices somewhere that's getting loaded
[08-Jan-2008 20:30:46] <grogan> not even sure where the hell its reading that from either
[08-Jan-2008 20:35:56] <MuseHome> ls is deleteing something for the pickle?
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:23] <aurax_> back
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:27] <aurax_> anyone around ?
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:40] <MuseHome> I'm still here :-)
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:41] <aurax_> i got a small problem with zenoss saying status: down on a certein server
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:48] <MuseHome> but who am I...
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:58] <aurax_> dunno
[08-Jan-2008 20:43:59] <aurax_>
[08-Jan-2008 20:44:34] <MuseHome> :-D
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:22] <aurax_> any idea how to debug this problem ?
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:40] <johns55> maybe the server is down
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:52] <aurax_> no it's not
[08-Jan-2008 20:45:58] <johns55> firewall?
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:09] <aurax_> nope, it's the same server that the zenoss is on
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:16] <MuseHome> what happens when you snmpwalkit?
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:17] <johns55> o
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:20] <johns55> yes
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:23] <johns55> snmpwalk that
[08-Jan-2008 20:46:30] <johns55> make sure snmpd.conf is correct
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:01] <MuseHome> so it's localhost?
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:09] <aurax_> no, i was using the real host
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:28] <johns55> can u put in pastebin ur snmpd.conf?
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:32] <MuseHome> but your problem is that the local host is showing up as down?
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:56] <aurax_> syre
[08-Jan-2008 20:47:56] <aurax_> sure
[08-Jan-2008 20:48:16] <aurax_> MuseHome, no - it's just shows status: down
[08-Jan-2008 20:48:21] <aurax_> for some weird reason
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:24] <MuseHome> did you add a line in the hosts file for your ip address?
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:30] <aurax_> http://pastebin.com/m5470be7b\
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:32] <aurax_> http://pastebin.com/m5470be7b
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:41] <aurax_> yep did ti
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:42] <aurax_> it
[08-Jan-2008 20:49:53] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 20:50:26] <johns55> would u mind if i suggest a conf file for u?
[08-Jan-2008 20:50:38] <aurax_> sure
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:48] <johns55> http://pastebin.com/d1dc072e9
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:50] <johns55> give this a shot
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:58] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 20:51:59] <johns55> and restart snmpd too
[08-Jan-2008 20:54:51] <aurax_> oo
[08-Jan-2008 20:54:56] <aurax_> i think i know why i'm getting this error
[08-Jan-2008 20:54:58] <aurax_> it's ping related error
[08-Jan-2008 20:55:10] <johns55> u turn icmp off?
[08-Jan-2008 20:55:48] <aurax_> 10.10.50.124 sendto error Host venus and venus.server1.local are both using ip 10.10.50.124
[08-Jan-2008 20:55:51] <aurax_> sendto error
[08-Jan-2008 20:58:50] <grogan> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 21:09:04] <nucky> anyone here successfully install on freebsd 6.2
[08-Jan-2008 21:10:26] <nucky> the directions on http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-freebsd-6.2/ are not the greatest
[08-Jan-2008 21:10:43] <nucky> im struggling with the environment variables
[08-Jan-2008 21:10:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on FreeBSD 6.2 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-Jan-2008 21:13:24] <johns55> nucky, have u tried installing from source?
[08-Jan-2008 21:19:06] <nucky> that's what it is pretty much
[08-Jan-2008 21:19:29] <nucky> im not installing a pre-built version
[08-Jan-2008 21:19:58] <grogan> hmmm
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:06] <grogan> so I see the command line arguments for zenperfsnmp
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:08] <nucky> it cant find python
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:41] <grogan> too bad the -dDEVICE flag doesn't seem to add the defined devices
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:43] <nucky> and the source directions have me export the following environment variable
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:45] <nucky> export PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[08-Jan-2008 21:20:56] <nucky> export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:21:17] <nucky> that being said ...there is not a /lib/python path in /usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:21:32] <nucky> python is in /usr/local/bin/python
[08-Jan-2008 21:21:53] <nucky> and even changing it to that..it wont build
[08-Jan-2008 21:23:33] <twm1010> nucky, look for a post on the bulletin board about having trouble installing w/MAC OSX, i believe the same problem applied
[08-Jan-2008 21:24:23] <nucky> twm1010: will do..how about someone update the documentation on the howto then
[08-Jan-2008 21:24:46] <nucky> the install guide for bsd 6.2 is brutal
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:08] <johns55> nucky
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:16] <johns55> dont listen to the guide
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:27] <nucky> johns55: yeah i see that
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:33] <johns55> u first need to install python on /usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:36] <johns55> compile that
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:43] <johns55> and install python 2.4
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:56] <johns55> then install zenoss from source using the zenoss user u created
[08-Jan-2008 21:26:58] <nucky> johns55: i have python installed on my systen already
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:02] <johns55> no
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:04] <johns55> dont use that
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:08] <nucky> ok
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:20] <johns55> download python 2.4 from source
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:29] <twm1010> Is the ZenossBB dreadfully slow for anyone else?
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:30] <johns55> compile it to install under /usr/local/zenoss
[08-Jan-2008 21:27:45] <johns55> then download zenoss source, extract it
[08-Jan-2008 21:28:03] <johns55> before u run install.sh, make sure to edit the build-functions to point the python install to /usr/local/zenoss/
[08-Jan-2008 21:28:12] <johns55> it should work after that
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:08] <nucky> johns55: can i point it to my existing python modules?
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:12] <nucky> in /usr/local/lib/python2.5
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:24] <grogan> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:27] <johns55> no, for some reason zenoss does not like version 2.5
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:28] <nucky> or i really have to rebuild to that dir
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:30] <nucky> ok
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:33] <johns55> i suggest 2.4
[08-Jan-2008 21:30:56] <grogan> can someone look at this zenperfsnmp output and give me a heads up as to why it's not loading the device?
[08-Jan-2008 21:31:37] <nucky> johns55: ok
[08-Jan-2008 21:32:12] <grogan> http://pastebin.com/d45b1234c
[08-Jan-2008 21:32:22] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 21:38:27] <MuseHome> anyone know what the log is talking about?
[08-Jan-2008 21:38:27] <MuseHome> 2008-01-02 21:36:39 INFO zen.zencommand: Deleting command NYFS01BR01 from $ZENHOME/Products/WindowsWMIDeviceTemplateV2/libexec/check_wmic_memory.pl "10.124.1.20"
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[08-Jan-2008 23:04:53] <grogan> hmm
[08-Jan-2008 23:07:41] <johns55> ?
[08-Jan-2008 23:11:32] <grogan> still haven't been able to figure out why this thing won't load up with rrd graphing.
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:05] <grogan> snmpwalk picks up the interfaces, but won't give me rrd graphing on the traffic stats
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:50] <johns55> is it just empty page?
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:55] <grogan> manually ran zenperfsnmp and got the following
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:55] <grogan> http://pastebin.com/d45b1234c
[08-Jan-2008 23:12:59] <johns55> have u tried a diff browser?
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:06] <grogan> it's not a browser issue.
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:09] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:16] <grogan> it gives missing rrd file
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:27] <johns55> ahh ok
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:29] <johns55> dunno
[08-Jan-2008 23:13:42] <grogan> in the image file. where normally it'd be the graph of the monitored service/device/interface
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[09-Jan-2008 12:53:36] <Folke> Anyone here know the ins and outs of event mapping?
[09-Jan-2008 13:46:25] <MuseHome> None of my Data Source command are being run.
[09-Jan-2008 15:27:35] <MuseHome> I can't see all my templates from the bind window.
[09-Jan-2008 15:28:00] <MoreDakka> I can't seem to find the upgrade instructions for 2.1.1 -> 2.1.2. I'm not sure how simple or difficult it is.. :-/
[09-Jan-2008 15:29:31] <hotgrits> MoreDakka: its painless, really. First step is to run zenbackup, of course, but the rest is essentially an "rpm -Uvh ..."
[09-Jan-2008 15:29:50] <MoreDakka> Ahhh...the magical U in the rpm...always forget that one.
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:10] <MoreDakka> zenbackup just backsup the whole $ZENHOME dir right?
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:25] <MoreDakka> Or should I run zenbackup and copy the $ZENHOME somewhere?
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:31] <hotgrits> backs up $ZENHOME and the MySQL db
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:37] <MoreDakka> ah, good stuff.
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:40] <MoreDakka> thanks!
[09-Jan-2008 15:30:44] <hotgrits> np
[09-Jan-2008 15:31:02] <hotgrits> you might also run zenmigrate after the upgrade, but it may not be necessary for 2.11 -> 2.12
[09-Jan-2008 15:31:54] <MoreDakka> Yeah I haven't upgraded since I did the upgrade from 1.1.1 -> 2.0.3 -> 2.1.1....I never wanted to do another upgrade again.
[09-Jan-2008 15:32:30] <jsm> I'm trying to make zenoss less noisy about it's email updates.. for instance, I don't want to be emailed if a server spikes to 100% CPU if it is only sustained for 1ms, but if it is happening for a minute, I _would_ like a notification. How can I configure something like that?
[09-Jan-2008 15:32:43] <MoreDakka> will zenbackup be run as zenoss or root?
[09-Jan-2008 15:32:49] <MoreDakka> jsm: increase the count.
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:21] <hotgrits> jsm: you can add a delay to your alerting rule(s)
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:28] <MoreDakka> That too.
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:47] <jsm> hotgrits: yeah, the delay didn't really do the trick
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:50] <hotgrits> i'd run zenbackup as the zenoss user, Moredakka
[09-Jan-2008 15:33:59] <jsm> MoreDakka: how do i increase the count?
[09-Jan-2008 15:34:18] <MoreDakka> In the alert rule under the user
[09-Jan-2008 15:35:07] <MoreDakka> Running as user zenoss: http://pastebin.ca/848172
[09-Jan-2008 15:35:16] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 848172 (at pastebin.ca)
[09-Jan-2008 15:35:33] <jsm> MoreDakka: is that the "Repeat Time" field?
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:07] <jsm> hmm
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:08] <jsm> no
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:39] <jsm> ah, found it
[09-Jan-2008 15:36:59] <MoreDakka> haha...my zenoss was being slow or I would have found the exact area for you ;-)
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:07] <hotgrits> moredakka: check the ownership on the $ZENHOME/backups directory
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:21] <MoreDakka> Yeah the count for pretty much all our stuff is > 4
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:29] <jsm> what's the default delay?
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:33] <MoreDakka> No idea.
[09-Jan-2008 15:37:54] <hotgrits> the default delay is "immediate"
[09-Jan-2008 15:38:05] <jsm> what do you folks use for your delay?
[09-Jan-2008 15:38:17] <hotgrits> a lot depends on the event (how often something's polled, etc)
[09-Jan-2008 15:38:54] <jsm> oh, so i can set the count somewhere other than the alerting rules?
[09-Jan-2008 15:39:40] <MoreDakka> hotgrits: why would that dir be set as root? I don't think I've ever changed that.
[09-Jan-2008 15:40:29] <hotgrits> you probably didn't. I think we set it to root because it has credentials for your devices in the backup files
[09-Jan-2008 15:40:45] <hotgrits> thus you're probably better off running zenbackup as root and leaving the dir ownership alone.
[09-Jan-2008 15:41:30] <MoreDakka> It won't cause problems running as root?
[09-Jan-2008 15:41:48] <hotgrits> no, root is fine
[09-Jan-2008 15:41:53] <MoreDakka> k
[09-Jan-2008 15:43:14] <MoreDakka> How would I run the command? from the $ZENHOME dir bin/zenbackup? Tried that and I get errors right away. (sorry, mostly linux newb)
[09-Jan-2008 15:46:58] <hotgrits> you want to run it from $ZENHOME/bin. your root account doens't inherit the $ZENHOME environment variables
[09-Jan-2008 15:47:52] <MoreDakka> How can I specify that variable as root?
[09-Jan-2008 15:48:23] <hotgrits> export ZENHOME=/opt/zenoss
[09-Jan-2008 15:48:37] <hotgrits> and check it with: echo $ZENHOME, of course
[09-Jan-2008 15:52:19] <MoreDakka> Joy...that worked ;-)
[09-Jan-2008 15:53:58] <MuseHome> how can you remove a zenpack?
[09-Jan-2008 15:56:10] <hotgrits> MuseHome: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenpack-documentation/zenpack-faq#5
[09-Jan-2008 15:56:19] <MuseHome> thanks.
[09-Jan-2008 15:56:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack FAQ - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jan-2008 15:59:42] <MoreDakka> Uhh...strange. I did the upgrade with zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5.i386.rpm but zenoss shows the version as 2.1.1 and did a version check and it doesn't find any upgrades....weird?
[09-Jan-2008 16:12:09] <hotgrits> moredakka: what does "rpm -q zenoss" report?
[09-Jan-2008 16:12:29] <hotgrits> and make sure you refresh your browser
[09-Jan-2008 16:23:29] <grogan> hmmm
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:19] <grogan> looking at the log output when I run zenperfsnmp against one host, I get the following output:
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:24] <grogan> (located at: http://pastebin.com/d45b1234c)
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:35] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:36] <grogan> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Fetching configs for 0 devices DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Finished fetching configs for 0 devices
[09-Jan-2008 16:24:51] <grogan> does anyone know where those configs would be located?
[09-Jan-2008 16:25:07] <grogan> so that I can do some command line tweaking.
[09-Jan-2008 16:25:26] <grogan> there's definitely something screwy on this full zenoss install.
[09-Jan-2008 16:27:39] <MoreDakka> hotgritz: zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5, and yes I have refreshed the browser (Yay Ctrl-f5). Sorry for the late response.
[09-Jan-2008 16:27:58] <MoreDakka> So the upgrade went through but it's showing weird, I'll try to close and reopen the browser.
[09-Jan-2008 16:28:58] <grogan> for some of the monitored instances, rrd graphing works as expected, but in others, I get missing rrd file: <hostname> <type of process>
[09-Jan-2008 16:29:23] <grogan> i.e. for cpu idle it shows up as missing rrd file: app1 ssCpuRawIdle_ssCpuRawIdle
[09-Jan-2008 16:29:41] <grogan> and network load average stuff is just missing.
[09-Jan-2008 16:30:34] <grogan> strangely enough, the PDU's actually graph.
[09-Jan-2008 16:31:14] <grogan> throughput (in/out), packets (ifInUcastPackets,ifOutUcastPackets) etc
[09-Jan-2008 16:41:08] <grogan> hmm
[09-Jan-2008 16:41:22] <grogan> looking at event.log
[09-Jan-2008 16:41:38] <grogan> it's spewing errors on NameError: global name 'rrdtool' is not defined.
[09-Jan-2008 16:43:16] <grogan> holy crap. found a fix.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:16] <grogan> for the log file - here's the fix.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> Anyone having this problem (rrdtool references in $ZENHOME/log/event.log) try the following steps:
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 1. Switch to the zenoss user.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 2. zopectl stop
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 3. rm $ZENHOME/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.pyc
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:17] <grogan> 4. zopectl start
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:19] <grogan> 5. Try to view your graphs again.
[09-Jan-2008 16:44:26] <grogan> nuts.
[09-Jan-2008 16:50:15] <grogan> hmmm only works for some stuff. (weird)
[09-Jan-2008 17:35:34] <twm1010> Anyone available for an SNMP question?
[09-Jan-2008 17:36:17] <rakATzenoss> what's the question?
[09-Jan-2008 17:37:33] <twm1010> Well... I loaded a MIB into Zenoss
[09-Jan-2008 17:37:54] <twm1010> but when I snmpwalk that OID, the datapoint isn't really defined there, it shows part of the OID
[09-Jan-2008 17:38:22] <twm1010> heres an example: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.23.2.66.2.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 301615
[09-Jan-2008 17:38:55] <twm1010> is that because certain RFC's were missing when I imported the MIBs into Zenoss maybe?
[09-Jan-2008 17:43:55] <twm1010> or can that just be ignored, and you just setup the datapoints with their actual names?
[09-Jan-2008 17:45:07] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[09-Jan-2008 17:45:38] <twm1010> Basically I'm setting up a performance template, I have an OID that will return 4-5 lines of values, so I want to set up one datasource, pulling multiple datapoints.
[09-Jan-2008 17:48:13] <twm1010> All the other templates I look at really only pull one value per OID
[09-Jan-2008 19:11:27] <dynasty> hey guys has anyone had issues upgrading to 2.1.70
[09-Jan-2008 19:11:29] <dynasty> ?
[09-Jan-2008 19:11:53] <twm1010> did that come out today? i thought the newest was 2.1.2
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:01] <dynasty> This is asanabria from the userlist and im as of right noqw screwed
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:09] <dynasty> they announced it in the email
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:32] <dynasty> Since im a ass for not backing zenoss up
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:39] <dynasty>
[09-Jan-2008 19:12:51] <dynasty> the daemons keep restarting itself
[09-Jan-2008 19:13:19] <dynasty> i tried downgrading and I keep getting iteration over non sequence for zencommand, zenperfsnmp and zenprocess
[09-Jan-2008 19:13:46] <MoreDakka> 2.1.7? wow...that's quite the jump from 2.1.2...
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:09] <twm1010> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4565
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss Core 2.1.70 (2.2 First Sprint Cycle) Now Available (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:54] <dynasty> man I wished I backed up zenoss
[09-Jan-2008 19:14:57] <dynasty> #$$%%%
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:19] <twm1010> What distribution are you on?
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:39] <dynasty> redhat el5
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:54] <twm1010> how did you do the update?
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:54] <dynasty> whats weird is i increased debugging to 10 aka logseverity 10
[09-Jan-2008 19:16:58] <dynasty> rpm -Uvh
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:05] <dynasty> i even ran zenmigrate manually
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:09] <twm1010> hrmm, i wonder if that still requires you to run zenmigrate?
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:09] <dynasty> as the zenoss user
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:45] <twm1010> that sounds like the right way to do it
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:46] <dynasty> and the logs are the same
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:50] <twm1010> does zenmigrate complete or what?
[09-Jan-2008 19:17:55] <dynasty> yep
[09-Jan-2008 19:18:25] <twm1010> hrmm, bit out of my realm, maybe rak can help ya
[09-Jan-2008 19:18:38] <dynasty> the only thing that fails part of the upgrade is this
[09-Jan-2008 19:18:47] <dynasty> ../usr/bin/replace /usr/bin/python $ZENHOME/bin/python -- $ZENHOME/bin/*
[09-Jan-2008 19:19:02] <dynasty> ./usr/bin/replace: File 'python2.4' not found (Errcode: 2)
[09-Jan-2008 19:19:10] <twm1010> it says in the changelog they upgraded their python version
[09-Jan-2008 19:19:37] <twm1010> perhaps you need to use yum and install python2.4 now, and then things will be groovy
[09-Jan-2008 19:20:02] <dynasty> python-2.4.3-19.el5
[09-Jan-2008 19:20:05] <dynasty> thats installed
[09-Jan-2008 19:22:12] <twm1010> maybe its trying to update a symb. link ?
[09-Jan-2008 19:23:21] <dynasty> not sure
[09-Jan-2008 19:24:11] <twm1010> well, it sounds like something easy, which is good news
[09-Jan-2008 19:32:07] <twm1010> I learned from my first few "upgrades"
[09-Jan-2008 19:32:25] <twm1010> I now shutdown my virtual machine, make a copy of the virtual disk, and THEN i attempt an upgrade
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:04] <dynasty> so i finally got the downgrade to work
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:46] <dynasty> reason the other daemons failed was because i uninstalled the zenoss-core-packs
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:50] <dynasty> once i reinstalled it
[09-Jan-2008 19:34:54] <dynasty> all daemons are now fine
[09-Jan-2008 19:36:05] <dynasty> still upgrade does not work
[09-Jan-2008 19:41:04] <twm1010> Post it up on the dev board
[09-Jan-2008 19:41:53] <dynasty> cool
[09-Jan-2008 19:42:09] <dynasty> hey twm1010 I appreciate the help
[09-Jan-2008 19:42:23] <dynasty> im out for the day
[09-Jan-2008 19:42:37] <dynasty> I think I have added a few more white hairs on my head and I'm only 28
[09-Jan-2008 20:13:01] <BrixWork> I have a question on zenoss and snmp.
[09-Jan-2008 20:15:00] <rakATzenoss> what's the question BrixWork? twm1010: sorry I ran earlier -- something came up.
[09-Jan-2008 20:16:52] <BrixWork> I am recieving an event from a system we have, and one of the varbinds is a # that should resolve to a sevarity of Alarm, Cleared, Info, etc. I can find in the mib where it's defined and that mib is in zenoss, should zenoss be resolving that to the enum values. I can upload the mibs(or the parts I'm taling about at least) to pastebin if that would help
[09-Jan-2008 20:17:58] <BrixWork> I hope that makes sense
[09-Jan-2008 20:24:41] <rakATzenoss> makes sense.
[09-Jan-2008 20:25:10] <rakATzenoss> you feel the mib properly maps the event level, but it's not being picked up by zenoss right?
[09-Jan-2008 20:25:18] <rakATzenoss> let me have a look at that mib.
[09-Jan-2008 20:25:24] <rakATzenoss> email to rak@zenoss.com
[09-Jan-2008 20:27:26] <twm1010> perhaps the event is being escalated
[09-Jan-2008 20:28:58] <BrixWork> yep
[09-Jan-2008 20:31:21] <BrixWork> give me a sec and I'll get them to you.
[09-Jan-2008 20:31:23] <BrixWork> thanks
[09-Jan-2008 20:37:42] <BrixWork> rakATzenoss: Just sent it.
[09-Jan-2008 20:38:45] <rakATzenoss> got 'em -- give me a few to review.
[09-Jan-2008 20:43:03] <rakATzenoss> which object-type you working with here?
[09-Jan-2008 20:43:45] <rakATzenoss> telicaEventMIBEvents?
[09-Jan-2008 20:44:14] <BrixWork> so I get a trap from the device that's telicaT1Alarm and that's in the TELICA-EVENT-MIB.mib
[09-Jan-2008 20:46:23] <BrixWork> in that trap the 4th varbind is telicaReptCondSeverity which is defined as SYNTAX TelicaCondSeverity
[09-Jan-2008 20:48:45] <rakATzenoss> I don't think this var resolves to a traditional severity level.
[09-Jan-2008 20:48:57] <rakATzenoss> still looking tho.
[09-Jan-2008 20:52:45] <rakATzenoss> ok -- I see.
[09-Jan-2008 20:52:49] <rakATzenoss> missed the import.
[09-Jan-2008 20:53:17] <rakATzenoss> ok, so it look like it's an int in {1..5}
[09-Jan-2008 20:53:52] <BrixWork> yep then in TELICA-TC it defines that to a word
[09-Jan-2008 20:54:03] <rakATzenoss> right I see.
[09-Jan-2008 20:54:25] <rakATzenoss> you want to know if you can refer to these values as the name (enum val) in zenoss?
[09-Jan-2008 20:55:05] <rakATzenoss> rather than 1 - 5.
[09-Jan-2008 20:55:24] <BrixWork> wondering if it should resolve to the enum values in the event details instead of the #
[09-Jan-2008 20:56:11] <johns55> on the perf tab on a windows machine, im getting missing rrd file, cpuPercentProcessorTime_cpuPrecentProcessorTime
[09-Jan-2008 20:56:19] <johns55> any ideas what this is?
[09-Jan-2008 20:57:24] <rakATzenoss> I'm fairly certain you'll see the numbers.
[09-Jan-2008 20:57:40] <rakATzenoss> I'm validating this on my setup.
[09-Jan-2008 20:58:33] <rakATzenoss> john55: what version of zenoss?
[09-Jan-2008 21:01:55] <johns55> 2.1.2
[09-Jan-2008 21:04:19] <johns55> linux servers cpu r showing up fine
[09-Jan-2008 21:04:23] <johns55> quite nice actually
[09-Jan-2008 21:05:14] <rakATzenoss> yes, something happened to the rrd file behind that windows graph.
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:20] <johns55> do you believe it is a problem on the remote machine or the zenoss machine?
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:20] <rakATzenoss> what's the exact error string you're seeing?
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:26] <rakATzenoss> zenoss.
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:55] <rakATzenoss> there's been work done to handle this situation better -- just trying to figure out the solution to restore the rrd file.
[09-Jan-2008 21:06:58] <johns55> MISSING RRD FILE: EXCHANGE cpuPercentProcessorTime_cpuPercentProcessorTime
[09-Jan-2008 21:07:09] <johns55> exchange is my machine name
[09-Jan-2008 21:07:16] <johns55> thats all this says on the graph
[09-Jan-2008 21:09:02] <rakATzenoss> just for the helluva it -- change the collection frequence.
[09-Jan-2008 21:09:05] <rakATzenoss> frequency
[09-Jan-2008 21:09:13] <rakATzenoss> what's it at now?
[09-Jan-2008 21:11:51] <BrixWork> rak: thanks for looking into it, seem's like it should follow the snmp mibs to resolve the items to enum value instead of stopping at numeric one.
[09-Jan-2008 21:12:25] <rakATzenoss> is there another device to which you can compare?
[09-Jan-2008 21:13:32] <MuseHome> anyone know how to add a route to a device so that it will show a link in the network map?
[09-Jan-2008 21:14:04] <MuseHome> I know I can goto OS and click add route. but what needs to be in there to make the link show up?
[09-Jan-2008 21:19:58] <rakATzenoss> it's only going to show up (the routed network) if there's a host on that network that's also registered with zenoss.
[09-Jan-2008 21:20:27] <johns55> rak: collection frequence?
[09-Jan-2008 21:20:59] <rakATzenoss> yes, there should be somewhere where you can change the sample frequency for the stat.
[09-Jan-2008 21:21:21] <rakATzenoss> I think a new rrd file is created when this frequency is modified.
[09-Jan-2008 21:23:12] <johns55> im not sure where, would u have an idea?
[09-Jan-2008 21:24:37] <R4K> back -- sorry about that.
[09-Jan-2008 21:33:36] <rakATzenoss> john55 -- still there?
[09-Jan-2008 21:33:58] <rakATzenoss> johns55 -- still there?
[09-Jan-2008 21:34:05] <rakATzenoss> go to Management/Monitors.
[09-Jan-2008 21:34:23] <rakATzenoss> select the appropriate performance monitor
[09-Jan-2008 21:34:58] <rakATzenoss> click edit , change one of the cycle values for the monitor then save.
[09-Jan-2008 21:35:12] <rakATzenoss> that should force the creation of the rrd file for that monitor.
[09-Jan-2008 21:35:46] <rakATzenoss> actually --- chancge the windows cycle intervals...
[09-Jan-2008 21:35:54] <rakATzenoss> you can change them back after getting it working.
[09-Jan-2008 21:38:35] <MuseHome> akATzenoss: So say I have server out there say 10.10.10.5 and don't have a router on that net. could I add a route to the network form some other router so it would make a link?
[09-Jan-2008 21:39:20] <rakATzenoss> correct.
[09-Jan-2008 21:39:46] <rakATzenoss> the network diagram just maps the routing tables between devices.
[09-Jan-2008 21:39:54] <tessier_> Anyone know what to put in my snmpd.conf to prevent it from logging each and every query from zenoss?
[09-Jan-2008 21:40:05] <MuseHome> rakAT: what would be the next hop?
[09-Jan-2008 21:40:43] <rakATzenoss> youd have a route on an existing device to the 10.10.10.0 network right?
[09-Jan-2008 21:40:47] <rakATzenoss> or no?
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:16] <MuseHome> rakAT: is it also used to set up a parent child for alearts?
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:31] <rakATzenoss> no. I don't believe so.
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:37] <MuseHome> no.. it's 5 servers and a switch.
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:37] <rakATzenoss> no
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:51] <rakATzenoss> ok, so you have 5 servers -- all on the same net?
[09-Jan-2008 21:41:58] <MuseHome> so yes
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:04] <rakATzenoss> running to the same switch.
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:07] <MuseHome> yep
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:20] <rakATzenoss> let's say that switch is connected to the internet.
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:30] <MuseHome> so switch goes I get 6 E-Mails.
[09-Jan-2008 21:42:32] <MuseHome> right
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:03] <MuseHome> I'm with you..
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:23] <rakATzenoss> in order to properly map... you have to have a contiguous route loaded into zenoss.
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:54] <rakATzenoss> so in your case I don't think you'll show your machine out on the 'net at 10.10.10.0 as a part of your local network.
[09-Jan-2008 21:43:55] <MuseHome> k
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:07] <rakATzenoss> that's a physical map.
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:10] <rakATzenoss> well.
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:19] <rakATzenoss> physical in terms of IP space.
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:29] <rakATzenoss> now if that box was VPN'ed to your local network...
[09-Jan-2008 21:44:57] <rakATzenoss> that would then map it as part of the network, because your VPN gateway is essentially a router.
[09-Jan-2008 21:45:07] <rakATzenoss> that make sense?
[09-Jan-2008 21:45:12] <MuseHome> sure.
[09-Jan-2008 21:45:40] <rakATzenoss> now as far as those email alerts go...
[09-Jan-2008 21:46:28] <rakATzenoss> if you set zenoss to email you when any of those devices are down...
[09-Jan-2008 21:46:58] <rakATzenoss> if zenoss is on the local net along side the other machines and the router drops, you'll only get a message for the router...
[09-Jan-2008 21:47:17] <rakATzenoss> unless you had tests on each server device that checks for internet connectivity.
[09-Jan-2008 21:47:21] <rakATzenoss> then you get some email
.[09-Jan-2008 21:47:52] <rakATzenoss> johns55 -- still there?
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:03] <MuseHome> So I have this Zen -- SW -- RT -- INET -- RT --SW -- server X 5
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:17] <rakATzenoss> ahhh
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:31] <rakATzenoss> so zenoss is the box on the 'net...
[09-Jan-2008 21:48:58] <rakATzenoss> not an ideal situation.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:08] <rakATzenoss> well..
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:11] <rakATzenoss> I take that back.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:12] <MuseHome> and some times : ZEN -- SW --RT -- PIX -- INET -- PIX -- SW -- Server X 5
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:31] <rakATzenoss> when that pIX is up -- they're on the same network.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:40] <rakATzenoss> and that <should> map.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:46] <MuseHome> still 3 hops.
[09-Jan-2008 21:49:54] <rakATzenoss> yeah.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:15] <rakATzenoss> you'd enter a device for all devices -- the RT's and PIX
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:22] <rakATzenoss> you have snmp access to the PIX?
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:41] <rakATzenoss> because when it's up -- it'll report the link betweem the two routers.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:42] <MuseHome> no.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:50] <rakATzenoss> hmm ok.
[09-Jan-2008 21:50:55] <MuseHome> and that is the probem.
[09-Jan-2008 21:51:16] <MuseHome> so I was hopping I could set a route betweent the rotuers skipping the PIX
[09-Jan-2008 21:51:56] <rakATzenoss> are you connecting to the routers via snmp?
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:00] <MuseHome> and the only real thing I care about is the loads of E-Mails when a RT or PIX goes down.
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:03] <rakATzenoss> and reading their routes?
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:06] <MuseHome> yes
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:22] <rakATzenoss> maybe you don't want to do that...
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:32] <rakATzenoss> and fake the route
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:48] <rakATzenoss> you can still get the events from the routers.
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:56] <rakATzenoss> right?
[09-Jan-2008 21:52:58] <rakATzenoss> just a thought.
[09-Jan-2008 21:53:29] <MuseHome> it's the loads of E-Mails from the serers. I just want one E-mail that the router or pix is down.
[09-Jan-2008 21:53:51] <MuseHome> I though the hops are what zenoss used to hide some alearts.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:15] <rakATzenoss> I'd have to read up a little more on that.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:22] <rakATzenoss> If so, that would be quite cool.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:31] <MuseHome> in nagios you could set a parent.
[09-Jan-2008 21:54:57] <rakATzenoss> I see.
[09-Jan-2008 21:55:23] <MuseHome> I under stand you can not do that in zenoss. it only uses layer 3.
[09-Jan-2008 21:55:24] <rakATzenoss> so if the router was down, the system would be smart enough to eat the 5 sever down alerts.
[09-Jan-2008 21:55:34] <MuseHome> Yep
[09-Jan-2008 21:56:01] <MuseHome> and if it was only 5... :-) some times it 105...
[09-Jan-2008 21:56:47] <rakATzenoss> I'd pose the question again on the zenoss forum... sounds like a great candidate for a feature request.
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:05] <MuseHome> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5583
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Newbie questions about functionality (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:28] <MuseHome> is kind of it.
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:28] <MuseHome> "I believe that Zenoss supports parent child at Layer3 by ZenModeller understanding the routes in your network. When a router is down it will disable ZenPing and other monitoring for a period of time. There is currently no way to perform Layer2 Modelling - this is in discussion in the wiki"
[09-Jan-2008 21:57:57] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[09-Jan-2008 21:58:21] <MuseHome> So I just want to add a route to some router. then I could just make links out to all my remote sites.
[09-Jan-2008 21:58:40] <MuseHome> but I can't seem to make the link show up in the network map.
[09-Jan-2008 21:59:34] <MuseHome> it seem like the class set up zenoss has it doule be simple to add a device to a SW group and that SW to a Router group and so on.......
[09-Jan-2008 21:59:57] <MuseHome> should = doule
[09-Jan-2008 22:00:14] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[09-Jan-2008 22:00:19] <MuseHome> then use the class to control alerts.
[09-Jan-2008 22:01:32] <MuseHome> so that everthing in class /root/sw/rt01/inet/rt02/sw/ would not send any E-Mail if rt02 was down.
[09-Jan-2008 22:03:49] <johns55> rak: i've changed the windows service cycle from 60 to 30, should this create the missing rdd file immediately? I still get the same missing rrd file error
[09-Jan-2008 22:07:50] <grogan> john: I've been getting that same type of issue.
[09-Jan-2008 22:08:14] <grogan> i.e. rrd file missing.
[09-Jan-2008 22:08:23] <grogan> and it works on some interfaces, doesn't on others.
[09-Jan-2008 22:10:07] <grogan> found this solution that fixed some of the problems on one of the message boards.
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> Switch to the zenoss user.
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> zopectl stop
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> rm $ZENHOME/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.pyc
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> zopectl start
[09-Jan-2008 22:11:10] <grogan> Try to view your graphs again.
[09-Jan-2008 22:19:43] <rakATzenoss> thanks grogan.
[09-Jan-2008 22:20:44] <grogan> hey, that was the problem I was banging my head against the wall for half a week trying to resolve
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[10-Jan-2008 00:29:12] <johns55> grogan, just did what you told me and still the same problem
[10-Jan-2008 00:39:35] <Gabriel25> Hi guys
[10-Jan-2008 00:39:44] <Gabriel25> I install zenoss on CentOS 5
[10-Jan-2008 00:39:50] <Gabriel25> And I have a problem
[10-Jan-2008 00:40:10] <Gabriel25> Whn I login on the webpage ... I don`t have that submenu
[10-Jan-2008 01:43:22] <johns55> anyone encounter an rdd file missing when showing cpu perf graphs?
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[10-Jan-2008 13:19:11] <twm1010> mornin
[10-Jan-2008 13:31:10] <twm1010> cluther: what's the correct command to update the rpath appliance?
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:04] <twm1010> rak: what's the correct process to update the rpath appliance?
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:30] <rakATzenoss> good morning -- at least here in EST.
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:38] <twm1010> mornin
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:39] <rakATzenoss> I have my way -- then there's the right way.
[10-Jan-2008 13:36:42] <rakATzenoss> let me dig that up.
[10-Jan-2008 13:37:03] <twm1010> Well, as long as it works, there really should be a sticky in the forum for this.
[10-Jan-2008 13:39:50] <twm1010> oddly enough, zentrap refuses to start this morning, saying there is something using its port, but i don't see the port listening
[10-Jan-2008 13:39:56] <twm1010> which port does zentrap listen on? 161?
[10-Jan-2008 13:39:56] <R4K> sorry -- I'm back online.
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:00] <R4K> no.
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:05] <R4K> that's snmp
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:15] <R4K> I think it's 162.
[10-Jan-2008 13:40:28] <R4K> damn not sure -- talking out of my ass again.
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:08] <R4K> ok, now I'm on panera wireless.
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:23] <twm1010> mmm... bagels
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:33] <R4K> grrr, My verizon card can be very flaky after a long period of inactivity...
[10-Jan-2008 13:41:44] <R4K> so, I use the conary command to update.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:12] <R4K> I don't have my zenoss vm handy, so I don't remember the <exact> command.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:21] <R4K> let me see if I can dig it up.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:32] <twm1010> ah, it was snmptrapd using the port
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:40] <R4K> we need a ZenBot on this channel.
[10-Jan-2008 13:42:55] <R4K> 162?
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:06] <R4K> or is that on 161.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:06] <R4K> ?
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:15] <twm1010> yes, its 162
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:18] <R4K> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:26] <twm1010> reason i didn't see it at first, is because its a UDP port
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:29] <R4K> btw, don't let my nick fool you -- I'm VERY new to zenoss.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:41] <R4K> I come from Opsware which was more server-oriented...
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:44] <twm1010> and i always just scan for TCP ports
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:54] <R4K> making the transition to the world of snmp.
[10-Jan-2008 13:43:59] <R4K> ah right.
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:04] <twm1010> That's ok. I had not touched SNMP until Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:32] <twm1010> My boss came to me and said, I want an IBM Director-like monitoring software, for half the cost. Needless to say I had his ear when I said "how about free?"
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:34] <R4K> seems fairly straightforward... especially after doing os provisioning at opsware!
[10-Jan-2008 13:44:54] <R4K> zenoss is an excellent product -- that's why I left Opsware/HP...
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:16] <twm1010> speaking of which I have to sit for 2 hours starting at 12:30 and listen to a presentation on director
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:32] <R4K> director?
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:48] <R4K> oh from HP.
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:57] <twm1010> Yeah, about 75% of our equipment is IBM
[10-Jan-2008 13:45:59] <twm1010> rest is HP
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:17] <twm1010> so I could see a benefit of a product that its tailored to the hardware we use
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:22] <R4K> HP just acquired Opsware back in August -- I hadn't even scratched the service in learning their product suite beyond Opsware.
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:36] <R4K> yes -- but be sure to stay hardware neutral.
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:50] <twm1010> I'll here them out, but if I can get Zenoss to do most of what it does
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:53] <R4K> the big boys would love nothing more than to gget us back to the mid-80s.
[10-Jan-2008 13:46:53] <twm1010> *hear
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:06] <R4K> so IBM is presenting Director?
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:10] <twm1010> Yes
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:12] <R4K> Can I ask who you're with...
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:22] <R4K> ah ok -- that makes more sense -- never heard that name used at HP.
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:24] <R4K> only IBM.
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:25] <twm1010> Sure, the Bradford Group
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:33] <R4K> where you located?
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:43] <R4K> East Coast?
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:46] <twm1010> HQ is in Chicago, I work out of Florida at a satellite office
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:53] <R4K> nice.
[10-Jan-2008 13:47:57] <R4K> Did it finally warm up down there?
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:03] <twm1010> 75 degrees yesterday
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:16] <R4K> My Father and Grandfather have been in the panhandle for the past two weeks -- FROZE their first week.
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:25] <twm1010> Where are you at?
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:32] <R4K> Maryland.
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:44] <R4K> I'll be working at zenoss HQ in Annapolis come Monday.
[10-Jan-2008 13:48:50] <R4K> I'm here just getting a feel for things...
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:00] <R4K> seeing what people are talking about -- trying to lend a hand when I can...
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:07] <R4K> basically learning WITH the customers.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:15] <twm1010> how many people work there? curious.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:17] <R4K> which is a good way to go with a product like this.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:23] <R4K> about 30 or so.
[10-Jan-2008 13:49:29] <R4K> then we have people in Cary, NC.
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:12] <R4K> I'm coming on board with Client Services...
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:19] <R4K> so you'll get to know me...
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:32] <twm1010> It's exciting stuff, I try and participate in forums and help people out, when you're new to this stuff its kinda overwhelming on the brain
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:39] <R4K> either in a support, community, or proserv role.
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:45] <R4K> no dout.
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:51] <twm1010> i'm most a windows/netware guy, i know only the basics of linux
[10-Jan-2008 13:50:55] <R4K> btw, I'm still looking for the exact conary command.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:04] <R4K> ah ok -- I used to be 100% windows.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:12] <twm1010> yeah, its conary update --resolveall i seem to remember
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:19] <R4K> ditched it during the .net transition and converted to all osx/linux.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:24] <twm1010> but last time i tried this it completely hosed my VM, and i got no help fixing it, so i started over
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:40] <R4K> yeah -- definitely update your model.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:41] <twm1010> this time, i took a backup hehe
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:43] <R4K> or backup.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:45] <R4K> smart.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:51] <R4K> I did the same thing you did the first time.
[10-Jan-2008 13:51:59] <R4K> cowboy computing.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:32] <twm1010> Well I want to keep our version on the edge until its considered "production" then I will only update when I need something.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:38] <R4K> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:38] <twm1010> or a major release
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:43] <R4K> that's the way to do it.
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:51] <R4K> how node network work are you managing?
[10-Jan-2008 13:52:56] <twm1010> I'm sticking with the VM too, because I like it being in the environment that Zenoss built it in.
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:10] <twm1010> 100 servers, maybe 20 routers for an MPLS wan
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:15] <twm1010> not too big
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:18] <R4K> was it you asking about hierarchical event handling yesterday?
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:26] <R4K> not too shabby.
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:28] <R4K>
[10-Jan-2008 13:53:42] <twm1010> no, i think might have helped respond, the guy asked something about a MIB not assigning the right event state?
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:05] <R4K> I think so -- I'll dig back thru my transcripts...
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:21] <R4K> I found the section in the admin guide that discusses hierarchical events.
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:28] <R4K> I'll keep and eye out for him.
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:32] <twm1010> The google graph is cool, but with MPLS links instead of point to point circuits, it looks really goofy
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:42] <R4K> BTW, http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/zenpack-documentation/zenpack-faq/?searchterm=conary
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:51] <R4K> why's that?
[10-Jan-2008 13:54:54] <R4K> no links?
[10-Jan-2008 13:55:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack FAQ - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 13:55:07] <R4K> send me a screen shot -- I'd like to see that: rak@zenoss.com
[10-Jan-2008 13:55:21] <R4K> ah someone does have a bot on here...
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[10-Jan-2008 13:56:09] <twm1010> no, it draws links, but because it goes into a cloud and out, each site has a link to every other sidte
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:33] <rakATzenoss> definitely send me screencap -- we need this type of input.
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:41] <twm1010> so unless your sites happen to be in a circle-like placement around the country the "mesh" topology looks like a giant green glob
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:52] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 13:56:56] <rakATzenoss> interesting.
[10-Jan-2008 13:57:41] <rakATzenoss> conary update --resolve group-zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 13:57:58] <twm1010> for instnace my graph looks like an upside down isosceles (can't remember spelling) triangle, with jacksonville being the bottom
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:20] <twm1010> the three points up top, chicago, omaha, and oxford, canada, are nearly in a straight line
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:22] <rakATzenoss> and all points are connected.
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:38] <rakATzenoss> to illustrate the mesh?
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:45] <twm1010> right...
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:54] <twm1010> sometimes it has trouble drawing entirely, i really don't pay it too much attention
[10-Jan-2008 13:58:57] <rakATzenoss> would a smaller stroke fix the problem?
[10-Jan-2008 13:59:16] <twm1010> that is executed with zenoss running, correct?
[10-Jan-2008 13:59:44] <rakATzenoss> yes
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:03] <twm1010> it might, but i think some way of telling it that a network is really a cloud, and should have a center equidistant from all locations
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:34] <twm1010> that graph the MPLS cloud correctly.
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:37] <rakATzenoss> I see, so consolidate the mesh as a cloud.
[10-Jan-2008 14:00:48] <rakATzenoss> send me a screencap and I'll open a case.
[10-Jan-2008 14:01:00] <rakATzenoss> I can certainly see this coming up again.
[10-Jan-2008 14:01:17] <twm1010> MPLS is pretty huge... one sec, i assume its rak@zenoss.com ?
[10-Jan-2008 14:01:27] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 14:02:05] <twm1010> doh: The following troves are missing from the repository and cannot be installed: MySQL-python=/conary.rpath.com@rpl:devel//1//zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core/1.2.0-0.0.1-1[~MySQL-python.threadsafe is: x86], wmi=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core/0.1.6-1-1[is: x86]
[10-Jan-2008 14:03:35] <twm1010> trying conary updateall --resolve
[10-Jan-2008 14:05:01] <twm1010> same thing... looks like the repository is missing some stuff
[10-Jan-2008 14:05:06] <twm1010> i'll post up about that on the forum
[10-Jan-2008 14:08:44] <twm1010> well, woudl you look at that, our distribution center is down on the WAN,that ain't good
[10-Jan-2008 14:08:45] <twm1010> brb
[10-Jan-2008 14:15:37] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[10-Jan-2008 14:15:38] <twm1010> ok, someone else's problem
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:01] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:28] <rakATzenoss> heh -- as long as you were the first to know!
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:38] <twm1010> well i don't have zenoss doing much notifications yet
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:43] <rakATzenoss> or at the least -- knew before anyone called.
[10-Jan-2008 14:16:47] <twm1010> i have this utter fear of it destroying my inbox
[10-Jan-2008 14:17:01] <rakATzenoss> zenoss alerts?
[10-Jan-2008 14:17:14] <twm1010> to answer your e-mail: yes, exactly
[10-Jan-2008 14:17:48] <rakATzenoss> yeah -- that's a good point. I'm not yet sure how multiple emails for the same/hierarchical events are handled, but it sounds like a good area for research.
[10-Jan-2008 14:18:30] <twm1010> oh im pretty sure they already fixed that, the problem is i get a lot of events
[10-Jan-2008 14:18:48] <twm1010> for instance my terminal servers bark all day long about little programs crashing here and there
[10-Jan-2008 14:18:49] <rakATzenoss> redirect > /dev/null
[10-Jan-2008 14:19:05] <twm1010> and those generate lots of events
[10-Jan-2008 14:19:48] <twm1010> Then again, I've yet to actually read the section of the manual on events, and how to handle them.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:02] <rakATzenoss> at some point I'll have to pick your brain on those term-servers.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:12] <rakATzenoss> I have a prospect that wants to monitor them.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:28] <twm1010> I used the WMI Zenpack and expanded on it, to monitor # connected users
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:42] <rakATzenoss> term server is running a POS system that is accessed from smart-terms.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:47] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 14:20:59] <rakATzenoss> so all that term-server info is indeed exposed via wmi?
[10-Jan-2008 14:21:09] <twm1010> If I was decent at python, I could get it to monitor any WMI perf counter. Eric Julson had to help me with the script
[10-Jan-2008 14:21:53] <twm1010> yes, but Zenoss core really doesn't support it directly, the zenpack runs a python script that runs wmic, which queries the windows box
[10-Jan-2008 14:22:06] <twm1010> where i fall short is understanding how these scripts parse the data and return it to a format that can be read
[10-Jan-2008 14:29:15] <twm1010> just shot you a screenshot of what I'm getting as far as performance
[10-Jan-2008 14:30:37] <twm1010> for reference: that is a 2003 server, dual quad cores, 8 gig of ram. our call center uses them
[10-Jan-2008 14:31:29] <rakATzenoss> cool -- thx for the cap.
[10-Jan-2008 14:55:51] <MuseHome> anyone know if you add each trapcommunity on new lines OR trapcommunity string1 string2 ect?
[10-Jan-2008 14:57:10] <Dorferiferon> i dunno about that muse. i had an snmp question as well.
[10-Jan-2008 14:57:44] <Dorferiferon> does anyone know how to set the type of data that an exec sends back?
[10-Jan-2008 14:58:47] <Dorferiferon> eg: exec VIP1_act_conns /etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1 returns a string and I need an integer for graphing in zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:22] <rakATzenoss> you looking for a status code?
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:34] <rakATzenoss> or a string value extracted from /etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1?
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:43] <Dorferiferon> that script sends back 67 or some other int, but it gets interpreted by zenoss as 9.8859176125e+06 or some other value
[10-Jan-2008 15:00:57] <rakATzenoss> interesting.
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:12] <Dorferiferon> snmp sends back a string type
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:20] <rakATzenoss> is VIP1_act_conns a shell script?
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:21] <Dorferiferon> i need it interpreted as an in
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:22] <Dorferiferon> integer
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:25] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:38] <Dorferiferon> not VIP_act_conns
[10-Jan-2008 15:01:45] <Dorferiferon> but ipvsstats
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:16] <rakATzenoss> ah so you want to pass the result of ipvstats_1 into the statement exec VIP1_act_conns
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:19] <rakATzenoss> so you'd have...
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:28] <rakATzenoss> exec VIP1_act_conns 67
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:29] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:49] <rakATzenoss> ah add backticks to /etc/snmp/ipvstats_1.
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:52] <rakATzenoss> so you'd have...
[10-Jan-2008 15:02:59] <Dorferiferon> i am sending a priv msg with the raw snmp results from walk
[10-Jan-2008 15:03:08] <rakATzenoss> exec VIP1_act_conns `/etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1`
[10-Jan-2008 15:03:12] <rakATzenoss> that should do it.
[10-Jan-2008 15:03:32] <MuseHome> where do you change the snmp trap community string? /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf? or is it in zenoss? I'm getting "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from"
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:02] <Dorferiferon> you see the STRING rather than INTEGER results?
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:08] <Dorferiferon> they come back properly already
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:18] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 15:04:37] <Dorferiferon> just not in the right format for zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:01] <Dorferiferon> we have lvs running and i want to graph num of connections
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:07] <rakATzenoss> so, is this command being run on the remote machine?
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:16] <rakATzenoss> or on the zenoss server?
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:18] <Dorferiferon> yes.
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:22] <rakATzenoss> on the remote right?
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:35] <Dorferiferon> the command is run on the remote box and snmp trnsfers the data
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:40] <Dorferiferon> yes remote
[10-Jan-2008 15:05:56] <rakATzenoss> ok, I just don't 'get' the command line here.
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:02] <Dorferiferon> zenoss sees sdtring and converts ot
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:07] <rakATzenoss> you're telling exec to run "VIP1_act_conns"
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:13] <Dorferiferon> no....
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:18] <rakATzenoss> with the param /etc/snmp/ipvsstats_1
[10-Jan-2008 15:06:32] <Dorferiferon> the exact command i was running was:
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:04] <Dorferiferon> exec VIP2_act_conns /etc/snmp/ipvsstats 74.202.231.32
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:17] <Dorferiferon> and i have five ips that are in use.
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:34] <Dorferiferon> i tried just setting the script and making it only look for one ip
[10-Jan-2008 15:07:49] <Dorferiferon> VIP2_act_conns is the mib id
[10-Jan-2008 15:08:34] <rakATzenoss> forgive me -- but why the "exec" call?
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:05] <Dorferiferon> because snmpd needs that to "exec" the command to pass back the data/
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:19] <Dorferiferon> there is no mib/snmp data for lvs
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:27] <rakATzenoss> and your command is /etc/snmp/ipvsstats right?
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:31] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:41] <Dorferiferon> "/sbin/ipvsadm -l -n | grep $argv[1] | grep ':80' | awk '{ print $5 }' | sort -r "
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:43] <rakATzenoss> then wouldn't VIP2_act_conns be a param to it.
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:49] <rakATzenoss> ?
[10-Jan-2008 15:09:54] <Dorferiferon> taht is the script
[10-Jan-2008 15:10:15] <Dorferiferon> VIP2_act_conns is the MIB identifier
[10-Jan-2008 15:10:43] <rakATzenoss> right.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:29] <Dorferiferon> this is in the snmpd.conf and it returns the value correctly.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:41] <rakATzenoss> I just don't understand why you're passing it as an argument to exec.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:53] <rakATzenoss> your argument should be a executable command line.
[10-Jan-2008 15:11:56] <Dorferiferon> *except* it is type string, not integer.
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:27] <Dorferiferon> i thought the exec command needed an id for the oid.
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:36] <rakATzenoss> I don't think so.
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:38] <Dorferiferon> and i thought i had to name it something
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:42] <Dorferiferon> i will try that then
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:47] <Dorferiferon> one sec
[10-Jan-2008 15:12:51] <rakATzenoss> let me know what happens. I'm as curious as you.
[10-Jan-2008 15:13:43] <MuseHome> where do you change the snmp trap community string? /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf? or is it in zenoss? I'm getting "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from"
[10-Jan-2008 15:13:57] <Dorferiferon> in zenoss under zProperties
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:04] <Dorferiferon> sorry muse
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:07] <rakATzenoss> both really.
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:10] <rakATzenoss> they ned to match.
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:13] <Dorferiferon> yes
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:18] <MuseHome> np. I can hold on.
[10-Jan-2008 15:14:29] <MuseHome> thanks.
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:01] <Dorferiferon> no joy
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:15] <twm1010> @rak: I figured out why my google layout looks the way it does
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:15] <adytum-bot> twm1010: Error: 'rak:' is not a valid command.
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:24] <Dorferiferon> it does not exec. i thought and am now convinced you need to set the id
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:36] <rakATzenoss> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:56] <rakATzenoss> why's hat twm1010?
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:58] <rakATzenoss> that.
[10-Jan-2008 15:15:59] <twm1010> its because each site in reality has its own subnet into the cloud, if those subnets could be organized under a virtual network, it would make sense
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:06] <rakATzenoss> ah ok.
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:17] <Dorferiferon> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.5 = STRING: VIP5_act_conns
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:17] <Dorferiferon> .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.6 = STRING: /etc/snmp/ipvsstats
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:25] <rakATzenoss> could you use a fake router device to consolidate?
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:43] <twm1010> possibly, I would think a frame relay network would actually draw the most accurate mesh on the map
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:44] <rakATzenoss> in other words -- create a router that doesn't really exists and that doesn't use snmp to discover properties.
[10-Jan-2008 15:16:52] <rakATzenoss> yep.
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:10] <twm1010> I'll see what I can fool it into doing
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:50] <Dorferiferon> any other net-snmp wizzes here
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:51] <Dorferiferon> ?
[10-Jan-2008 15:17:56] <Dorferiferon> :O
[10-Jan-2008 15:18:17] <rakATzenoss> it looks like that strange number is zenoss' interpretation of the Oid -- which explains the insane exponent.
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:01] <Dorferiferon> it takes that 67 or some other value and makes it a string (i am thinking) and I dunno how it is converting it.
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:04] <MuseHome> Ok... stupid qustion may be? what zProperties is it? zSnmpCommunities, zSnmpCommunity
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:43] <Dorferiferon> zSnmpCommunity is the main one you are using, ties it allows you to put in multiples as a default
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:54] <twm1010> I suppose a virtual router, with an interface on each network, not being monitored, might work
[10-Jan-2008 15:19:57] <Dorferiferon> zSnmpCommunity for the individual device
[10-Jan-2008 15:20:20] <twm1010> i'll think it over, its a lot of work just to make a picture look pretty
[10-Jan-2008 15:20:32] <MuseHome> so for traps I use?
[10-Jan-2008 15:20:49] <Dorferiferon> muse: think so
[10-Jan-2008 15:21:17] <MuseHome> what one do I use for traps?
[10-Jan-2008 15:21:32] <Dorferiferon> zSnmpCommunity
[10-Jan-2008 15:21:46] <MuseHome> ok
[10-Jan-2008 15:23:14] <rakATzenoss> it's an old cliché twm1010, but a picture is worth a thousand words!
[10-Jan-2008 15:54:45] <bmunger> is there any way for zenoss to monitor /var/log/messages or /var/adm/messages for problems?
[10-Jan-2008 15:54:46] <twm1010> hehe
[10-Jan-2008 16:01:43] <MuseHome> can zenoss have more then one snmptrap string?
[10-Jan-2008 16:03:53] <twm1010> Muse: I'm not sure really.
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:08] <twm1010> Seems like it accepts almost any snmptrap string
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:19] <twm1010> I have some devices using one string, some using another, i get traps either way
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:48] <bmunger> does anyone monitor their unix system's messages file? why is it so hard to find a tool that will do it
[10-Jan-2008 16:04:50] <MuseHome> I'm getting "snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from"
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:11] <twm1010> thats a legitimate message actually
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:13] <MuseHome> syslog-ng might help you....
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:26] <bmunger> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:28] <MuseHome> also you could just have a ssh cmd to do your checking.
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:39] <twm1010> the device generating that even is saying that something is attempting to hit it's snmp interface but has the wrong community
[10-Jan-2008 16:05:53] <bmunger> ok i will look into it
[10-Jan-2008 16:06:24] <twm1010> it's probably Zenoss itself trying to monitor the device and the community may be mis-configured on one end or the other
[10-Jan-2008 16:06:27] <MuseHome> twm1010: I can snmpwalk the device. but it seem all my traps will not work.
[10-Jan-2008 16:06:51] <MuseHome> no I'm getting CPU graps and other snmp polling data.
[10-Jan-2008 16:07:11] <MuseHome> the is a trap from the remove host.
[10-Jan-2008 16:07:46] <twm1010> A machine that is no longer part of Zenoss can still send Zenoss traps
[10-Jan-2008 16:08:23] <twm1010> For instance, there is a UPS in our Canadian datacenter that sends my Zenoss box that trap everytime the admin up there mistypes the community on a little tool he uses
[10-Jan-2008 16:09:40] <MuseHome> this is from the event : HQFSBAISINV01||/Security/Auth||3|snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from HQFSBAISINV01
[10-Jan-2008 16:10:14] <MuseHome> agent zentrap
[10-Jan-2008 16:10:31] <twm1010> okay, that means something is trying to snmpwalk or snmpget on HQFSBAISINV01, and is using the wrong community string
[10-Jan-2008 16:10:51] <MuseHome> community MyString
[10-Jan-2008 16:11:34] <MuseHome> not that HQFSBAISINV is tring to send a trap and zenoss is no letting it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:11:53] <twm1010> Zenoss IS letting it in.
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:22] <twm1010> Think of it this way, zentrap is a daemon process, it listens on port 162 and takes any incoming traps and turns them into events in Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:38] <twm1010> the actual generation of the trap is coming from the other end, the server you've configured SNMP on
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:45] <MuseHome> sure. ...
[10-Jan-2008 16:12:55] <twm1010> the server is trying to tell you that something is trying to query SNMP but has the wrong string
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:13] <twm1010> its doing so by "correctly" sending a trap to your Zenoss box to let you know
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:14] <MuseHome> but you can set up snmptrapd to only let things in that have a set community
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:24] <twm1010> sure, but i think by default, it accepts everything
[10-Jan-2008 16:13:41] <MuseHome> that is where I was getting lost. how can you tell.
[10-Jan-2008 16:14:02] <MuseHome> becase I can't tell one what or the other.
[10-Jan-2008 16:15:11] <twm1010> I'll try and figure that out. For the moment though, to stop your event you need to figure out what is trying to acces SNMP on that server HQFSBAISINV01 that is causing the trap
[10-Jan-2008 16:19:15] <twm1010> I never did find a way to tell what device was sending the wrong string through Zenoss, the only way i found out was because the device itself also generate an e-mail, saying which host was sending the wrong community
[10-Jan-2008 16:20:08] <MuseHome> I'm getting someone to check on the remote host. ..
[10-Jan-2008 16:20:50] <twm1010> I would think, most likely, that there is a typo in RO community string set no the security tab of the SNMP service for Windows
[10-Jan-2008 16:21:29] <twm1010> And that Zenoss's performane monitors are the ones sending the community that is being rejected
[10-Jan-2008 16:22:47] <MuseHome> but I can use the snmpwalk function in zenoss and get good databack. also I am getting CPU and network graphs. .. so it would have to be someone else on the network trying to poll the systems...
[10-Jan-2008 16:26:09] <twm1010> exactly.
[10-Jan-2008 16:26:49] <BrixWork> I have a device that sends in traps with identical oid's for a down and up event, the varbinds have a status down and status up, how do I map them as different events so one can clear the other.
[10-Jan-2008 16:27:00] <twm1010> Still, I would like to get an answer on whether or not you can configure zentrap to only process traps with certain community strings
[10-Jan-2008 16:28:03] <MuseHome> I was looking at zentrap genconf... but I didn't get what I was looking for out of it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:30:14] <twm1010> perhaps it works off the community strings set at /Devices ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:30:55] <twm1010> or maybe it accepts all community strings used throughout Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:31:17] <cluther> There isn't a configuration knob for accepted community strings. It just accepts everything.
[10-Jan-2008 16:31:20] <MuseHome> I'm also checking in to that. have someone looking in to what the trap setting on the systems are. they may be different then the snmpget community.... I don't know yet.
[10-Jan-2008 16:32:48] <BrixWork> I don't think many snmp consoles actually use the snmp community string on traps, I think it was one of those it's in the specs, but not really implemented things.
[10-Jan-2008 16:33:32] <cluther> Right.. if you really needed to do this you could stick a bit of code into the doHandleRequest method in $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/zentrap.py
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:07] <cluther> if getattr(event, 'community', None) != 'myCoolString': return
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:11] <Dorferiferon> cluther: do you know much about the setup of custom commands in snmpd?
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:15] <cluther> Right before the sendEvent line.
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:23] <MuseHome> cluther: I'm trying to see if an event I'm getting is from zentraps or is it a real trap from sone hitting a system with the worng snmp community string...
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:35] <cluther> MuseHome: auth trap?
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:44] <MuseHome> yep
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:52] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Depends what much is, but probably.
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:56] <cluther> MuseHome: It is the latter.
[10-Jan-2008 16:34:56] <MuseHome> snmp trap snmp_authenticationFailure from
[10-Jan-2008 16:35:07] <cluther> MuseHome: zentrap won't make that kind of thing up.
[10-Jan-2008 16:35:38] <Dorferiferon> cluther: can you tell me how to set the return data type in the OID?
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:06] <cluther> Dorferiferon: You can't if you're using the exec style of extension. If you need control over that you have to use pass or pass_persist.
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:29] <cluther> Dorferiferon: However, the most recent version of Zenoss properly handles numeric data returned as a string type.
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:34] <twm1010> cluther: good answer, I'm going to paste it onto the message board since i posted it there
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:46] <Dorferiferon> i am using
[10-Jan-2008 16:36:55] <twm1010> I would think this would be something best added to the zentrap config file
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:04] <Dorferiferon> 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:15] <twm1010> looks like net-snmp's snmptrapd supports this
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:39] <twm1010> It would also be good if zentrap automatically only accept traps from hosts configured in Zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:45] <twm1010> or at least a switch to do so
[10-Jan-2008 16:37:51] <Dorferiferon> cluther: the data is munged when it gets returned
[10-Jan-2008 16:38:01] <Dorferiferon> cluther: on 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 16:38:22] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Grab 2.1.2.. the changeset that fixes the thresholding of these values (r7702) is in that release.
[10-Jan-2008 16:38:58] <Dorferiferon> cluther: thanks!!!
[10-Jan-2008 16:39:22] <cluther> twm1010: We actually have a lot of people that setup an event command to automatically add devices into zenoss when they send a trap and aren't already added.
[10-Jan-2008 16:39:29] <cluther> twm1010: Pretty cool way to do discovery.
[10-Jan-2008 16:40:28] <cluther> twm1010: I agree about some kind of option that allows you to specify allowable SNMP community strings though.
[10-Jan-2008 16:41:41] <Gabriel25> hi guys
[10-Jan-2008 16:42:56] <Gabriel25> I have a problem. I installed zenoss and when I go to the GUI I click on the Devices, but I do not have the small button for the sub menu in the left side next to Classes
[10-Jan-2008 16:43:31] <Dorferiferon> cluther: are there updataed deps?
[10-Jan-2008 16:43:40] <Gabriel25> with More, Edit, Manage etc
[10-Jan-2008 16:43:40] <Dorferiferon> cluther: for 2.1.2
[10-Jan-2008 16:44:06] <twm1010> cluter: well, i just posted the request to zenoss-dev, maybe it will be considered.
[10-Jan-2008 16:44:26] <cluther> twm1010: Cool.. I just created a ticket for it and referenced it on your first topic.
[10-Jan-2008 16:44:32] <cluther> Dorferiferon: No.
[10-Jan-2008 16:45:09] <cluther> Gabriel25: Try running zenmigrate as the zenoss user.
[10-Jan-2008 16:45:19] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 16:45:58] <Gabriel25> INFO:zen.migrate:Migration successful
[10-Jan-2008 16:46:05] <Gabriel25> now I have to restart ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:08] <twm1010> well, while I've got your attention, i tried to update my appliance this morning, throws a little fit: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4599
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Appliance Update Fails (at community.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:32] <Gabriel25> cluther: the same I still don`t have that
[10-Jan-2008 16:47:33] <Gabriel25>
([10-Jan-2008 16:47:46] <cluther> Gabriel25: ok.. one sec.
[10-Jan-2008 16:48:01] <Gabriel25> you know what I am talking about no ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:48:16] <cluther> Gabriel25: I think so.. try "zenmigrate --step=MenuRelations"
[10-Jan-2008 16:48:51] <Gabriel25> INFO:zen.migrate:Migration successful
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:02] <Gabriel25> do I have to restart zenosss service ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:13] <cluther> Gabriel25: nope
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:17] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:30] <Gabriel25> now works
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:33] <Gabriel25> thank you
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:36] <Gabriel25> so so much !
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:41] <twm1010> gabe: this is because the zenoss database has to be running
[10-Jan-2008 16:49:46] <twm1010> confused me at first too
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:09] <Gabriel25> ohh well I follow the howto :_
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:10] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:17] <Gabriel25> i start the mysql
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:19] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:23] <Gabriel25> i install zenoss
[10-Jan-2008 16:50:36] <Gabriel25> I have to save this fix
) [10-Jan-2008 16:50:50] <twm1010> well mysql is just for the events, the zenoss configuration is in another database
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:00] <twm1010> zope i believe they call it
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:27] <twm1010> make sense now?
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:34] <Gabriel25> yes
[10-Jan-2008 16:51:51] <Gabriel25> how I install mib-s on it ?
[10-Jan-2008 16:52:03] <cluther> twm1010: That rpath thing is a bit odd.. I have no immediate answer for it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:52:40] <twm1010> thats okay. it won't kill me to wait.
[10-Jan-2008 16:53:24] <Dorferiferon> what are the FutureWarning errors I get about pynetsnmp? are they important?
[10-Jan-2008 16:54:10] <twm1010> Now I need to see how to setup these "event commands" you speak of
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:07] <cluther> Dorferiferon: They happen when using Python 2.3.. not important.
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:26] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Future versions of Zenoss will actually come bundled with Python 2.4 so you won't see them anymore.
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:40] <Dorferiferon> cluther: should i upgrade to 2,4?
[10-Jan-2008 16:56:57] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Upgrading your system python is dangerous business.. I'd recommend against it.
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:02] <Dorferiferon> k
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:08] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Are you using RHEL4 or CentOS 4?
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:19] <Dorferiferon> centos
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:20] <twm1010> Didn't they packet python2.4 inside the 2.1.7 release?
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:21] <twm1010> err, package
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:22] <cluther> That should be fine.
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:22] <Dorferiferon> 4.5
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:29] <cluther> twm1010: Yeah, but that is an alpha release.
[10-Jan-2008 16:57:36] <twm1010> ahh... gotcha
[10-Jan-2008 16:58:16] <Dorferiferon> my cpu graph for the device i am having issues with disappeared. how cna i just blow the device away and remodel it?
[10-Jan-2008 16:59:16] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Do you still have the graph navigation tools surrounding it, or are there just no graphs at all on the Perf tab?
[10-Jan-2008 16:59:54] <Dorferiferon> cluther: the nav tools surrounding it are there. the graph went away
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:16] <cluther> Dorferiferon: Did you rename the device?
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:16] <Dorferiferon> and the readings are still anomalous for the data i had issues with
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:20] <Dorferiferon> no
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:35] <grogan> hmm interesting
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:56] <Gabriel25> cluther: sorry to batter you, I add a device and I get only the UP status I don`t get CPU info or any other statuses, the snmpd.conf looks good
[10-Jan-2008 17:00:58] <grogan> changed the perf server to localhost, and suddenly the graphing fires upp
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:24] <grogan> but now I get port down notifications on the mysql 3309 monitoring.
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:26] <grogan> feh
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:35] <grogan> memcache too.
[10-Jan-2008 17:01:37] <grogan> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 17:02:02] <Dorferiferon> grogan: have you had memcached die unexpectedly much?
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:15] <Gabriel25> another think, under the class I have only servers and servers/linux
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:40] <grogan> nope.
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:44] <Dorferiferon> k
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:49] <grogan> it's all just trying to get this thing to work
[10-Jan-2008 17:04:52] <grogan> re: zenoss. heh.
[10-Jan-2008 17:05:23] <grogan> I'm at a new gig, and apparently they've had some memcache stalls in the past.
[10-Jan-2008 17:06:08] <grogan> port's listening, but not doing much more than that.
[10-Jan-2008 17:06:48] <Dorferiferon> i have had it die unexpectedly recently and by design there is no logging... lol
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:14] <grogan> yeah. heh
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:19] <grogan> you can get some stats
[10-Jan-2008 17:07:50] <Dorferiferon> yeah, but does not say "hey. i am dying here...
"[10-Jan-2008 17:07:57] <Dorferiferon> makes it hard to ts
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:02] <grogan> yup
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:05] <grogan> actually.
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:12] <grogan> you can check 'stats' from memcache.
[10-Jan-2008 17:08:28] <grogan> and it'll spit out some relevant stuff.
[10-Jan-2008 17:09:54] <grogan> telnet to the 11211 port, and type in stats.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:09] <Dorferiferon> currently i just check that 11211 answers and if not restart it.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:24] <grogan> hmmm nod.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:28] <Dorferiferon> the stats are not really relative for me. i do not develop, just manage
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:30] <grogan> just croned.
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:33] <Dorferiferon> *just*
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:35] <Dorferiferon> lol
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:45] <grogan> heh
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:45] <grogan> yeah
[10-Jan-2008 17:10:57] <grogan> problem is that sometimes it'll open and just sit there and do nothing.
[10-Jan-2008 17:12:02] <Dorferiferon> not observed that b4
[10-Jan-2008 17:19:03] <grogan> yeah, neither have I, but apparently that's popped up before over here
heh[10-Jan-2008 17:22:16] <twm1010> cluther: is the enterprise version very different?
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[10-Jan-2008 17:33:09] <twm1010> whoa, perfmon zenpack, w00t
[10-Jan-2008 17:33:15] <twm1010> i shall try this on my exchange server :-D
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[10-Jan-2008 17:57:09] <Gabriel25> How I add mibs in zenoss ?
[10-Jan-2008 17:57:45] <Gabriel25> and also ... i add a linux server and I get only it`s ip but I don`t get routing table or ip address or cpu info anything
[10-Jan-2008 17:57:46] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 17:57:51] <Gabriel25> any idea ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:01:17] <Gabriel25> I got it
[10-Jan-2008 18:05:36] <twm1010> perfmon zenpack = sweet
[10-Jan-2008 18:08:00] <twm1010> am i ever gonna exploit the crap outta this
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[10-Jan-2008 18:15:58] <Gabriel25> twm1010: what is zenpack ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:16:08] <Gabriel25> is that rpm that they have it ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:16:12] <johns55> twm: is that new?
[10-Jan-2008 18:16:44] <Gabriel25> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.2-0.el5.i386.rpm this one ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:21:26] <johns55> ZenPerfMonCollector?
[10-Jan-2008 18:21:31] <johns55> that is an enterprise zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:27:30] <twm1010> No, its something else
[10-Jan-2008 18:27:34] <twm1010> its just called PerfMon
[10-Jan-2008 18:27:57] <johns55> where did u get this?
[10-Jan-2008 18:28:19] <twm1010> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/perfmon
[10-Jan-2008 18:28:31] <twm1010> its pretty straight forward
[10-Jan-2008 18:28:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - Perfmon - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Jan-2008 18:29:25] <twm1010> the WMI zenpack queries WMI directly over the network, this uses remote execution to query perfmon, so there is only one python script, instead of one for each bloody thing you want to check
[10-Jan-2008 18:29:46] <twm1010> I'm going to redo the templates a bit and expand the crap out of this :-D
[10-Jan-2008 18:31:08] <johns55> so this will not work if im modeling using snmp for windows?
[10-Jan-2008 18:31:10] <johns55> i need to use wmi?
[10-Jan-2008 18:31:36] <twm1010> it uses WMI but it queries it from the remote host, like SSH queries linux
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:00] <johns55> ahh ok
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:02] <twm1010> make sense? the actual query is executed on the remote computer
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:05] <johns55> im using snmp and its not bad
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:16] <johns55> i guess if u have windows server 2007, u would need it
[10-Jan-2008 18:32:25] <twm1010> but... it will need the username password of a user with privileges to query the counters
[10-Jan-2008 18:34:05] <twm1010> I suppose SNMP can bring back most of the same info, seemed like you needed the informant to get it though, and that only provides you basics
[10-Jan-2008 18:34:12] <twm1010> with this you could query any counter you wanted
[10-Jan-2008 18:34:27] <twm1010> quite easily
[10-Jan-2008 18:35:52] <Gabriel25> twm1010: how you install that ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:36:15] <twm1010> download the zip file to your desktop
[10-Jan-2008 18:36:24] <twm1010> in zenoss go to settings
[10-Jan-2008 18:36:39] <twm1010> zenpacks tab, click the contextual menu, and hit install zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:37:23] <twm1010> then make sure a user with correct credentials is set in the zProperties of /Devices/Servers/Windows, you may have this done already
[10-Jan-2008 18:37:39] <twm1010> Then go to /Devices/Servers/Windows, go to the templates tab
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:06] <twm1010> click the context menu, choose bind templates, and ctrl click on the template that it added called Perfmon
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:07] <Gabriel25> I don`t have Devices/Servers/Windows
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:09] <Gabriel25>
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:18] <Gabriel25> I have only servers and server linux
[10-Jan-2008 18:38:50] <twm1010> Well the device class ought to be there, if you click on devices on the left side, what comes up?
[10-Jan-2008 18:39:34] <Gabriel25> only server
[10-Jan-2008 18:39:50] <Gabriel25> and under subs I get 1
[10-Jan-2008 18:39:59] <Gabriel25> and I have linux
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:05] <twm1010> really... that is odd
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:13] <twm1010> there should be a whole bunch of them by default
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:46] <Gabriel25> I don`t have that
[10-Jan-2008 18:42:50] <Gabriel25> how i installed ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:01] <twm1010> i don't know, they should all be there already
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:29] <twm1010> try your URL http://PUTYOUZENOSSSERVERHERE:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/deviceOrganizerStatus
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:44] <twm1010> make sure we're looking at the same thing
[10-Jan-2008 18:43:54] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:09] <johns55> hey rak
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:24] <rakATzenoss> yo what's up?
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:30] <johns55> rak: I followed all the tips and still getting rdd missing, you have any other ideas?
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:38] <Gabriel25> yes there is where I was
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:40] <twm1010> almost sounds like you're looking at the device list instead of the device classes, i never had to define the basics, windows, linux, a whole bunch were there from the get go
[10-Jan-2008 18:44:54] <twm1010> Maybe its because I'm using the virtual appliance
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:12] <Gabriel25> I am on the device classes
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:14] <twm1010> You would want to create one for Windows then
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:21] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:21] <rakATzenoss> you searched thru the forums right?
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:24] <rakATzenoss> nothing there?
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:28] <twm1010> thats VERY odd that it wasn't there to begin with
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:38] <twm1010> i think even my CentOS build had one
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:48] <rakATzenoss> I agree -- someone must've run into this issue before.
[10-Jan-2008 18:45:58] <Gabriel25> I just create Windows
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:34] <twm1010> rak or cluther: the device class for Windows should be there automatically right?
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:44] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:54] <Gabriel25> I don`t have it
[10-Jan-2008 18:46:55] <rakATzenoss> ootb? yes.
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:02] <Gabriel25> I just created
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:09] <Gabriel25> now let me do that "))
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:12] <twm1010> That is so weird, you'd have to setup quite a bit of stuff then
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:22] <rakATzenoss> no /servers/windows?
[10-Jan-2008 18:47:24] <twm1010> collector setup, some zProperties
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:05] <Gabriel25> Now I go to settings
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:12] <Gabriel25> I click on ZenPacks
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:30] <Gabriel25> and then I click on that small icon
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:43] <Gabriel25> and I have only create a zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:51] <Gabriel25> or delete a zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:49:55] <Gabriel25> I don`t have install
[10-Jan-2008 18:52:37] <twm1010> wait a sec, what version of Zenoss are you on?
[10-Jan-2008 18:52:57] <Gabriel25> 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:16] <Gabriel25> sorry Zenoss 2.1.2
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:23] <twm1010> im on 2.1.1
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:41] <twm1010> i have create a zenpack and install a zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 18:53:52] <Gabriel25> how you do that ?
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:11] <Gabriel25> I just install the RPM
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:20] <johns55> i dont get what the apachezenpack does, i installed it, it automatically got added to the server's template, and i remodeled but dont see a difference
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:23] <twm1010> hrmmm... sounds like stuff is missing
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:32] <Gabriel25> I can see that
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:40] <Gabriel25> I can erase and install again
[10-Jan-2008 18:54:49] <twm1010> You got a VMWare player or server?
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:04] <Gabriel25> I don`t use vmware
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:15] <Gabriel25> I installed to a linus server
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:23] <Gabriel25> linux server with centos 5.0
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:31] <twm1010> gotcha
[10-Jan-2008 18:55:47] <Gabriel25> I have one with vmware
[10-Jan-2008 18:56:01] <Gabriel25> and I have all good on that
[10-Jan-2008 18:58:37] <twm1010> might be good to reinstall then, it almost sounds like its a half-upgraded version of sorts?
[10-Jan-2008 18:58:44] <twm1010> I know the zenpack gui install is a new feature
[10-Jan-2008 18:58:50] <twm1010> but missing the default device classes ain't right
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:02] <Gabriel25> Is missing a lot
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:13] <Gabriel25> is missing the install pack
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:21] <grogan> hmm
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:27] <Gabriel25> I have the same version on vmware and there I have install
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:34] <grogan> is there a package to load for the hw manufacturers?
[10-Jan-2008 18:59:44] <grogan> I have everything defaulting to unknown.
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:13] <twm1010> grogan, i think thats what the dell and hp zenpacks provide
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:20] <twm1010> but i don't seem to be getting much
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:23] <grogan> hmmm
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:25] <twm1010> some HP servers are working
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:28] <grogan> netgear/cisco/etc.
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:28] <grogan> heh
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:41] <twm1010> cisco is built-in
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:47] <twm1010> netgear probably not
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:53] <grogan> hmmm apparently not. re: cisco
[10-Jan-2008 19:00:59] <grogan> it picked up the 3560 I have as unknown
[10-Jan-2008 19:01:25] <grogan> not sure if I need to load up some xml file somewhere/somehow.
[10-Jan-2008 19:01:46] <twm1010> mine didn't model a CPU at all
[10-Jan-2008 19:01:58] <grogan> hmmm yeah. I forget what I had to do
[10-Jan-2008 19:02:19] <grogan> but by default, it didn't pick up anything in the /Devices tree either.
[10-Jan-2008 19:02:29] <grogan> until I manually loaded some file (forget which one)
[10-Jan-2008 19:03:38] <twm1010> Yours did the same thing as Gabriel?
[10-Jan-2008 19:07:43] <Gabriel25> what
[10-Jan-2008 19:07:47] <Gabriel25> I wan`t here
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:19] <Gabriel25> I wasn`t here
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:20] <twm1010> i'm asking grogan if his zenoss install was missing the same things yours was
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:30] <Gabriel25> Ohh I see
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:40] <Gabriel25> he said he load some files manual
[10-Jan-2008 19:08:56] <Gabriel25> and he dosen`t remember witch one
([10-Jan-2008 19:11:22] <Gabriel25> [root@localhost ~]# /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:22] <Gabriel25> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler: line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:22] <Gabriel25> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler: line 21: generic: command not found
[10-Jan-2008 19:11:28] <Gabriel25> hmmm
[10-Jan-2008 19:12:14] <twm1010> where are the RRD files stored?
[10-Jan-2008 19:12:26] <Gabriel25> I have no idea
[10-Jan-2008 19:12:27] <Gabriel25>
)[10-Jan-2008 19:13:21] <cluther> $ZENHOME/perf/Devices
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:37] <cluther> Gabriel25: You need to run zenoss commands as the zenoss user.. su - first
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:45] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 19:13:58] <cluther> This sets the environment up properly and makes sure that no files get created with bad permissions.
[10-Jan-2008 19:14:52] <Gabriel25> now works as zenoss user
[10-Jan-2008 19:15:14] <Gabriel25> I have no idea how to add the windows and all the stuff under devices
[10-Jan-2008 19:23:05] <grogan> there was a bunch of xml stuff.
[10-Jan-2008 19:23:53] <twm1010> very weird, 3/4 wmi based performance graphs refuse to draw for just this one server
[10-Jan-2008 19:25:34] <twm1010> i don't see the RRD files being generated for those datapoints either
[10-Jan-2008 19:25:36] <twm1010> weird
[10-Jan-2008 19:26:27] <twm1010> very odd, working fine on every other windows machine using that template
[10-Jan-2008 19:28:37] <MoreDakka> omg hackers are teh suck
[10-Jan-2008 19:31:45] <twm1010> okay, i removed the device, removed /perf/Devices/devicename, but when i remodel it, i still don't get those 3 graphs
[10-Jan-2008 19:31:50] <rakATzenoss> quick unplug your modem! teh hax0rs are going after rrd files!
[10-Jan-2008 19:32:09] <rakATzenoss> only on this ONE device?
[10-Jan-2008 19:32:38] <twm1010> yepper
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:00] <rakATzenoss> I'm going to bet something is not making its way back from the device to zenoss...
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:03] <twm1010> im thinking maybe a hung wmic process
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:19] <twm1010> well thats the odd part, there are four WMI based graphs, 1 of them works :O
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:32] <rakATzenoss> which one?
[10-Jan-2008 19:33:54] <twm1010> disk queue consistently. im thinking that WMIC hung, im cycling the server now, then will re-add and see what happens
[10-Jan-2008 19:34:57] <twm1010> I mean, I'm about to change to a different template anyway, but still, very odd.
[10-Jan-2008 19:38:49] <rakATzenoss> keep us posted.
[10-Jan-2008 19:42:55] <johns55> has anyone used dnsmonitor? I installed it but not sure what features it includes
[10-Jan-2008 19:43:36] <cluther> johns55: It gives you a new data source type that you can add to templates called DnsMonitor. You fill in the name to lookup, the server to look it up using and the expected result.
[10-Jan-2008 19:43:59] <cluther> johns55: It'll generate an event if the lookup fails or returns an unexpected answer.
[10-Jan-2008 19:44:45] <johns55> cluther: how would i add this to a template? when I click bind template under /Devices/Server , I dont see any dns entries
[10-Jan-2008 19:46:02] <Gabriel25> i still don`t have anything under devices except servers and linux
[10-Jan-2008 19:46:10] <Gabriel25> that`s all i have
[10-Jan-2008 19:47:21] <cluther> johns55: You can create your own templates and add data sources to them. DnsMonitor is a type of data source, not a template.
[10-Jan-2008 19:47:46] <twm1010> nope, same damn thing
[10-Jan-2008 19:47:51] <Gabriel25> if I go to settings and i click on the ZenPacks I don`t have the install packs I have only Create a ZenPack and delete zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 19:48:16] <johns55> cluther: ah i c now, i will give it a shot, thx
[10-Jan-2008 19:48:57] <grogan> same here.
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:00] <grogan> I have no zenpacks
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:02] <grogan> none of them will install
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:22] <twm1010> my brain is a bit tired to troubleshoot this one
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:34] <grogan> I get a bunch of error messages, but then when I go into zope, I see some of the zenpack component names in place.
[10-Jan-2008 19:49:58] <grogan> my guess, something partially worked, but screwed up and left remnants everywhere.
[10-Jan-2008 19:50:54] <Gabriel25> where is zope ?
[10-Jan-2008 19:51:54] <grogan> I forget the path.
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:05] <Gabriel25>
)[10-Jan-2008 19:52:12] <grogan> I found it digging through the mix of forums.
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:16] <grogan> lemme see if I can find it
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:20] <Gabriel25> ok
[10-Jan-2008 19:52:53] <grogan> hold on. google desktop archives history.
[10-Jan-2008 19:54:23] <twm1010> GRR... this is frustrating
[10-Jan-2008 19:55:14] <twm1010> perhaps my backup from this morning will work, i'd simply have to reinstall the zenpack
[10-Jan-2008 20:04:03] <zaf> anyone know if it's possible to have a user limited to only seeing devices that belong to a certain group?
[10-Jan-2008 20:09:42] <bnafziger> zaf: enterprise version
[10-Jan-2008 20:11:00] <zaf> doh
[10-Jan-2008 20:11:10] <twm1010> Really odd, that it won't at least draw the graph, and tell me the RRD file is missing
[10-Jan-2008 20:11:15] <twm1010> in this case, the graph doesn't come up at all
[10-Jan-2008 20:12:39] <twm1010> when there are both local templates and bound as well as inherited templates, how does Zenoss choose which order to display the graphs?
[10-Jan-2008 20:13:10] <bnafziger> zaf: or restrict urls via apache which i have not done
[10-Jan-2008 20:14:46] <zaf> bnafziger, thanks
[10-Jan-2008 20:17:14] <twm1010> I'm creative sub-classes in Windows for Exchange and Terminal Servers... now do I want to store my templates in those sub-classes orkeep them under Windows?
[10-Jan-2008 20:17:32] <twm1010> and simply bind them in the subclasses
[10-Jan-2008 20:20:41] <twm1010> i suppose if I will store them in /Windows, that way if i need to get specific for a particular server, i just create a local copy
[10-Jan-2008 20:29:57] <grogan> twm1010: did you try deleting the RenderServer.pyc file?
[10-Jan-2008 20:30:16] <grogan> I know that worked for me in some cases
[10-Jan-2008 20:30:32] <grogan> fixed the rest by changing the perfmon server.
[10-Jan-2008 20:39:48] <twm1010> one sec
[10-Jan-2008 20:41:37] <twm1010> renamed it, lets see what happens
[10-Jan-2008 20:41:55] <twm1010> i suppose thats a cache file?
[10-Jan-2008 20:45:04] <twm1010> still nothing
[10-Jan-2008 20:45:14] <twm1010> but i suppose i have to wait 5 minutes for it to run the template
[10-Jan-2008 20:46:49] <twm1010> Perhaps I should remove all the .pyc files in that directory?
[10-Jan-2008 20:50:08] <twm1010> well, lets see if i blew it up
[10-Jan-2008 20:51:52] <grogan> oh. you also have to stop the process before /restart it after.
[10-Jan-2008 20:51:59] <twm1010> right.. been doing that
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:02] <twm1010> got me nowhere
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:05] <grogan> yeah. ugh
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:13] <twm1010> it regenerated all those files, but still won't even draw the graph
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:14] <grogan> same issues I was having last week
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:16] <grogan> yeah
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:25] <grogan> what're you setting as the perfmon server?
[10-Jan-2008 20:52:52] <twm1010> nothing?
[10-Jan-2008 20:53:00] <twm1010> localhost ?
[10-Jan-2008 20:54:47] <grogan> ok
[10-Jan-2008 20:54:48] <grogan> yeah
[10-Jan-2008 20:54:54] <grogan> localhost should be it
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:15] <grogan> I had it set to the ip address of the localhost machine, but that bugged it out
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:24] <grogan> i.e. graphs under perf were all screwed.
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:26] <twm1010> well, 1 out of the 4 graphs is working
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:32] <grogan> rrd files not generating. etc.
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:34] <twm1010> and the CPU one from SNMP works fine
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:39] <twm1010> all other devices are fine
[10-Jan-2008 20:55:42] <grogan> wacky
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:26] <grogan> hmmm
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:26] <twm1010> hehe, wait a second..
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:35] <grogan> have you figured out what add service versus add ip service is?
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:37] <twm1010> i just renamed the device... now its doing something
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:41] <grogan> oh. wacky
[10-Jan-2008 20:57:44] <grogan> nuts.
[10-Jan-2008 20:58:32] <twm1010> argh, the problem followed it
[10-Jan-2008 20:58:37] <grogan> yikes
[10-Jan-2008 20:59:57] <twm1010> clearly something isn't happening, or its assuming something has already beend one
[10-Jan-2008 21:00:40] <rakATzenoss> that was it? you renamed the device?
[10-Jan-2008 21:02:15] <twm1010> no, that didn't work
[10-Jan-2008 21:02:30] <twm1010> renaming it created a new set of performance data, and a new folder under ZENHOME/Perf/Devices
[10-Jan-2008 21:02:40] <twm1010> but it did not generate graphs for the missing WMI datapoints
[10-Jan-2008 21:05:18] <twm10101> grr
[10-Jan-2008 21:06:20] <twm10101> I'm gonna try the backup, and see what happens
[10-Jan-2008 21:16:13] <twm10101> ah ha... its doing the same thing
[10-Jan-2008 21:19:13] <twm10101> trying one more 2003 server...
[10-Jan-2008 21:20:59] <twm10101> worked fine
[10-Jan-2008 21:21:07] <twm10101> there has to be a way to manually regenerate the graphs
[10-Jan-2008 21:22:40] * _keturn wonders if the Zenoss team is distorting the meaning of the term "sprint."
[10-Jan-2008 21:25:07] <twm10101> how so
[10-Jan-2008 21:31:28] <twm10101> I'm going to let it run overnight, perhaps some overnight process or daemon will clean this up/fix this
[10-Jan-2008 22:26:55] <Gabriel25> WARNING zen.ZenModelerclient Telco_4560G timeout
[10-Jan-2008 22:26:58] <Gabriel25>
([10-Jan-2008 22:27:12] <Gabriel25> this is a cisco device
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[10-Jan-2008 23:06:50] <johns55> anyone tried 2.1.7 yet?
[10-Jan-2008 23:06:54] <johns55> hows it look?
[10-Jan-2008 23:07:32] <MoreDakka> Didn't know there was a version past 2.1.2 :-/
[10-Jan-2008 23:08:07] <johns55> MoreDakka: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4564
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[10-Jan-2008 23:11:37] <MoreDakka> OOoo...a watchdog...yay!
[10-Jan-2008 23:11:51] <MoreDakka> What service watches the watchdog though?
[10-Jan-2008 23:12:00] <MoreDakka> Thanks for the linky John55
[10-Jan-2008 23:12:47] <grogan> heh
[10-Jan-2008 23:12:49] <grogan> how stable is that?
[10-Jan-2008 23:14:56] <MoreDakka> Anyone know why linux (FC4) would lock at "Starting Firewall"? I can restart iptables no problem from single user mode but when I reboot it hangs at Starting Firewall.
[10-Jan-2008 23:17:32] <BrixWork> how can I troubleshoot wmi errors with zenoss, I have like 4 servers that I get connection refused but I can access wmi from a remote windows system using the same username and password that I have in zProperties.
[10-Jan-2008 23:23:45] <johns55> MoreDakka: disable firewall
[10-Jan-2008 23:25:20] <MoreDakka> Yeah but the firewall needs to be enabled... :-/ Can I disable the firewall during boot and enable it again with rc.local?
[10-Jan-2008 23:25:33] <MoreDakka> (I know this is the wrong channel, thanks john55)
[10-Jan-2008 23:26:40] <johns55> id try it
[10-Jan-2008 23:31:58] <MoreDakka> that seems to be working better. Home time though, test it more tomorrow. Thanks john55 ;-)
[10-Jan-2008 23:32:00] <MoreDakka> seya
[10-Jan-2008 23:35:51] <johns55> lucky bastard
[10-Jan-2008 23:35:59] <johns55> its 3:36PM!
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[11-Jan-2008 12:06:47] <wulfen> Any way to troubleshoot zenoss using several minutes to display the network page, and related info. Mysql does use 100% cpu until the page displays. (the server is a dual xeon with 6x73gb sas disk in raid10 and 4gb ram without any other installed services)
[11-Jan-2008 12:54:51] <twm10101> Morning
[11-Jan-2008 12:55:32] <twm10101> wulfen: clearly a query is taking forever, i know nothing about MySQL maintenance, but i know that only events are held in the MySQL DB
[11-Jan-2008 12:55:48] <twm10101> the network page coming up slow, shouldn't really be affected by that DB
[11-Jan-2008 12:55:59] <twm10101> all the information it pulls is from zope, i believe
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[11-Jan-2008 13:03:40] <wulfen> twm1010 : I just recreated the database, and it's behaving more or less responsive now. Just have to let it run for a little while to see if it bogs down again. Not too sure if I should let zenoss grab the syslogs, it does seem to be one of the zenoss processes that does take alot of memory / cpu
[11-Jan-2008 14:09:28] <twm1010> wulf: sounds good, something was clearly up. very odd though that clicking on networks would start the issue
[11-Jan-2008 14:09:36] <twm1010> since that really shouldn't generate any mysql activity
[11-Jan-2008 14:37:09] <twm1010> OK, so I'm going to be monitoring SMTP queues as kind of a "watchdog" for exchange
[11-Jan-2008 14:37:37] <twm1010> the perfomance counters return the number of messages in the queue
[11-Jan-2008 14:37:57] <twm1010> what i want, is a warning, when the queue has continual growth over a period of time, say 10 minutes
[11-Jan-2008 14:38:33] <twm1010> Not sure how to go about doing so.
[11-Jan-2008 14:42:33] <twm1010> Could I choose a datasource type of "derive" and set my threshold at >0 ?
[11-Jan-2008 15:18:54] <twm1010> IF you delete an RRD file, will Zenoss recreate next time it is collected?
[11-Jan-2008 15:19:05] <MoreDakka> it "should"
[11-Jan-2008 15:19:53] <MoreDakka> just like cacti and all other rrdtool using programs it should recreate it. Just move it and see what happens.
[11-Jan-2008 15:20:12] <MoreDakka> Is there a way to force Zenoss to see that a new service has been enabled? (IMap4)?
[11-Jan-2008 15:20:23] <MoreDakka> on a specific device.
[11-Jan-2008 15:25:28] <twm1010> remodel the device
[11-Jan-2008 15:25:30] <twm1010>
[11-Jan-2008 15:25:44] <MoreDakka> that's what I'm trying but it's not finding the service :-/
[11-Jan-2008 15:26:02] <twm1010> add the portscan collector to that device class
[11-Jan-2008 15:26:05] <twm1010> then remodel?
[11-Jan-2008 15:26:17] <twm1010> it should find IMAP running then
[11-Jan-2008 15:29:06] <MoreDakka> ehh...how can I add/what is the portscan collector?
[11-Jan-2008 15:30:50] <MoreDakka> nvm, found it in v2.1.1 Damnit I wish I could just swap my 1.1.1 machine for my 2.1.1 machine :-/
[11-Jan-2008 15:41:37] <twm1010> ehehe
[11-Jan-2008 15:41:40] <twm1010> did that work?
[11-Jan-2008 16:09:45] <ke4qqq> klinstifen, have time for a question?
[11-Jan-2008 16:09:58] <klinstifen> hey ke4qq, what's new?
[11-Jan-2008 16:09:59] <klinstifen> sure
[11-Jan-2008 16:10:14] <ke4qqq> you posted something in the forum about changing graphs to showing $value per minute or per hour
[11-Jan-2008 16:10:23] <ke4qqq> and the custom code that went along with it
[11-Jan-2008 16:10:36] <ke4qqq> however,what I don't know is where you put htat code
[11-Jan-2008 16:11:44] <MoreDakka> twm1010: It'll probably work in 2.1.1 but v1.1.1 doesn't have that option.
[11-Jan-2008 16:12:00] <klinstifen> go to your graph definition and click on the middle tab, Graph Custom Definition
[11-Jan-2008 16:12:06] <ke4qqq> k
[11-Jan-2008 16:12:24] <klinstifen> how's that apache zenpack mod coming along?
[11-Jan-2008 16:14:17] <ke4qqq> I haven't had much time to spend on zenoss at all of late unfortunately. finally got some initiatives that require some work with it today
[11-Jan-2008 16:14:28] <ke4qqq> hows exchange coming?
[11-Jan-2008 16:14:55] <klinstifen> made some progress
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:03] <klinstifen> tracking db write/read ios now
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:21] <klinstifen> but spent past week trying to move from ubuntu to centos and upgrade from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:23] <klinstifen> all to no avail
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:26] <klinstifen> wasted a week
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:31] <klinstifen> now back where i started
[11-Jan-2008 16:15:54] <ke4qqq> u didn't like centos?
[11-Jan-2008 16:17:21] <klinstifen> it wouldn't work on my box
[11-Jan-2008 16:17:31] <klinstifen> i tried centos5.1 and my box kept locking up
[11-Jan-2008 16:17:35] <klinstifen> had to hard reset
[11-Jan-2008 16:19:06] <ke4qqq> I added this to my Graph Custom Def: CDEF:MessagesReceived=messages_recvd_messagesrecvd-raw,60,* and it looks to have hosed the graph (no longer displaying)
[11-Jan-2008 16:31:06] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: if you go to the Graph Commands tab do you see messages_recvd_messagesrecvd-raw in there?
[11-Jan-2008 16:31:29] <klinstifen> is it equal to the path of your rrd file?
[11-Jan-2008 16:32:36] <ke4qqq> here is my graph commands tab: http://pastebin.ca/850949 and yes I see that (or at least a permutation - I misspelled the first one)
[11-Jan-2008 16:32:44] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 850949 (at pastebin.ca)
[11-Jan-2008 16:43:39] <klinstifen> ke4qq: now that you fixed the typo is the graph still broken/
[11-Jan-2008 16:44:59] <klinstifen> and by broken i mean, does it not appear at all?
[11-Jan-2008 16:45:11] <klinstifen> or does that MessagesReceived not appear correctly
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:08] <ke4qqq> MessagesReceived doesn't appear correctly now
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:20] <ke4qqq> still appears to be showing messages per second
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:33] <klinstifen> ok cool
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:37] <klinstifen> it's not appearing
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:40] <klinstifen> becaus
[11-Jan-2008 16:46:59] <klinstifen> you haven't defined the graph for that new CDEF
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:18] <mikeatmedicor> is there a way to change the default port (from 8080 to either 80 or preferavbly 443) that zenoss listens on other than using the apache front end method?
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:21] <klinstifen> see how there are GPRINTs for messages_recvd
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:29] <klinstifen> you need to make GPRINTs for MessagesReceived
[11-Jan-2008 16:48:48] <klinstifen> just copy the ones for messages_recvd and you'll be good to go
[11-Jan-2008 16:49:06] <ke4qqq> k
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:10] <klinstifen> mikeatmedic: found this in the forums...should do the trick
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:11] <klinstifen> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4460&highlight=change+port++apache
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - port 80 (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Jan-2008 16:51:42] <klinstifen> you have to modify the zope config
[11-Jan-2008 16:52:24] <ke4qqq> hmmmm here is what I have: http://pastebin.ca/850971 and the figures appear to be right......but the graph still isn't. it's still graphing in the m range instead of whole numbers
[11-Jan-2008 16:52:57] <mikeatmedicor> thanks klin just noticed it was running zope and that was my next question ... lol ... could i edit the zope conf without trashing the system
[11-Jan-2008 16:53:00] <mikeatmedicor> =D
[11-Jan-2008 16:53:25] <klinstifen> hehe
[11-Jan-2008 16:55:26] <ke4qqq> stupid question perhaps, but do I need to have a graph point defined for the custom def stuff?
[11-Jan-2008 16:55:58] <mikeatmedicor> so ... lemme get this straight, i use apache (with virtual hostname set to http://zenoss/ - listening on 80 and 443 - autoforwarding everything to 443) wich auto-magically forwared everything to 8080/8443 (where zope sits and listens for stuff)
[11-Jan-2008 16:56:23] <mikeatmedicor> oh and zope is configured to have a hostname of zenoss ... so how can i have a hostname and a virtual hostname of the same thing>
[11-Jan-2008 16:56:26] <mikeatmedicor> ?
[11-Jan-2008 16:56:30] <mikeatmedicor> dosnt make sense to me
[11-Jan-2008 16:57:51] <mikeatmedicor> if binding to port 80 (or443) requires root privs, i wonder if i can make it so it dosnt
[11-Jan-2008 16:59:06] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: what do you mean?
[11-Jan-2008 17:01:17] <klinstifen> mike: dunno about the virtual hostname thing...
[11-Jan-2008 17:02:15] <mikeatmedicor> ah screw it... it works ok as is, and i dare anyone in my company to try and guess the login/pass info needed to get into this boc =p everyone here is a moron anyhow
[11-Jan-2008 17:04:19] <klinstifen> mike: ahahahaha
[11-Jan-2008 17:04:57] <ke4qqq> klinstifen, under the graph def. tab: I have 4 graph points defined, which aren't the graph point I am interested in (which I though I had running on the graph custom def. stuff.
[11-Jan-2008 17:05:49] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: ohh...yeah add the one you are interested in and change the line to "not drawn"
[11-Jan-2008 17:06:01] <klinstifen> wait...
[11-Jan-2008 17:07:22] <klinstifen> yeah add the point and turn off the line
[11-Jan-2008 17:07:31] <klinstifen> and add the custom commands
[11-Jan-2008 17:08:30] <ke4qqq> hmmm, well I have the MessagesReceived gprint line with figures that appear to be realistic, but the graph still looks to be per second.
[11-Jan-2008 17:11:02] <ke4qqq> ahhh wait I see the problem
[11-Jan-2008 17:13:48] <klinstifen> cool
[11-Jan-2008 17:15:17] <ke4qqq> in the area line I was still referencing the raw counter which is per second.
[11-Jan-2008 17:17:07] <klinstifen> gotcha
[11-Jan-2008 17:27:46] <_fuzz> hi.. i have a strange problem. just intalled the latest zenoss. i installed at machine A remotely via ssh from machine B. i added machine A (as "localhost") to the device list via the web gui. so far so good. but since then i've received events about /Status/Ping down for the IP of machine B! (which i've never told zenoss about)
[11-Jan-2008 17:27:58] <_fuzz> any ideas why this happens?
[11-Jan-2008 17:28:37] <_fuzz> i cannot remove machine B from zenoss, because it does not exist as a device. so i'm kindof stuck with the ping events pouring in...
[11-Jan-2008 17:29:55] <_fuzz> btw.. the ip of machine B that it tries to ping is not even a real ip.. it's a 10.x.x.x nat'et ip.. i have no idea where zenoss got that from.....
[11-Jan-2008 17:43:24] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[11-Jan-2008 18:20:37] <ke4qqq> hmmmmm I dont know what I am doing wrong - I setup a data point for page count as a counter - defined a graph to display that datapoint and it doesn't. (haven't gotten to modify it for my purposes) I am sleep deprived, but anyone seen such before?
[11-Jan-2008 18:23:21] <klinstifen> does it say rrd not found or something like that?
[11-Jan-2008 18:23:32] <ke4qqq> nope my other graphs for that device work well
[11-Jan-2008 18:23:49] <klinstifen> what's displayed under that graph?
[11-Jan-2008 18:24:41] <ke4qqq> another graph......
[11-Jan-2008 18:25:00] <ke4qqq> interestingly, I have another device configured exactly the same that graphs it properly
[11-Jan-2008 18:26:44] <klinstifen> _fuzz: when you get the email notifying you that the ping is down there should be a Event Detail link
[11-Jan-2008 18:26:53] <klinstifen> if you follow that does it show you the device in question?
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:17] <ke4qqq> finally.....I don't know why.....maybe due to no change in the counter it wasn't updating......it finally popped up, but I didn't change anything
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:29] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: run zentestcommand -d "problemdevice" --datasource="yoursource"
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:35] <klinstifen> and see what error it gives you
[11-Jan-2008 18:27:43] <klinstifen> oh ok
[11-Jan-2008 18:40:29] <johns55> arg man, zenwinmodeler is driving me nuts!
[11-Jan-2008 18:41:01] <johns55> I get an RPC error after adding a windows box last night, then I cleared it this morning, after clearing it, I get a heartbeat failure
[11-Jan-2008 20:21:35] <twm10101> If I bind a template in class, is that automatically bound in the class below?
[11-Jan-2008 22:53:06] <BrixWork> I'm trying to play around with test traps to zenoss and following the example in the manual, "snmptrap -v 2c -c public localhost '' 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.991.1.3.6.1.2.1.1.6 s "Device in Annapolis"" I get the following error, "s: Missing type/value for variable" any ideas?
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[12-Jan-2008 00:13:57] <telexicon> Anyone else have issues with stability in zenoss?
[12-Jan-2008 00:57:39] <johns55> what version?
[12-Jan-2008 00:57:43] <johns55> 2.1.2 is not bad
[12-Jan-2008 01:28:28] <johns55> anyone get dns monitor working?
[12-Jan-2008 01:28:41] <johns55> ah data sources seem like a lot of work
[12-Jan-2008 02:45:25] <telexicon> I'm using 2.1.1
[12-Jan-2008 02:45:34] <telexicon> just random weirdness seems to go on
[12-Jan-2008 02:45:44] <telexicon> and the ZODB really doesn't like being shutdown improperly
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[12-Jan-2008 17:13:41] <cpufreak> is there a nice way to forcibly remove a broken zenpack? (i.e. something to do when zenpack --remove doesn't work)
[12-Jan-2008 17:14:55] <cpufreak> I've been writing an zenpack creater for performance templates for various custom snmp oids we have here, as I didn't want to do them by hand..
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[13-Jan-2008 20:13:21] <flatline-kun> Can anyone tell me if there is a problem with the Darwin collectors in the current build?
[13-Jan-2008 22:01:15] <Bulwinkle> flatline-kun: sorry, no idea... I'm not lucky enough to have darwin in my environment
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[13-Jan-2008 23:16:06] <bgfyrman> I have a Problem with 2.1.2 for vmware. I get everything to work great but I can't get portscan enabled
[13-Jan-2008 23:16:23] <bgfyrman> Does anyone have any sugestions thanks
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[14-Jan-2008 07:26:14] <flatline-kun> how do you compile a custom collector plugin?
[14-Jan-2008 11:13:51] <wulfen> My zenoss 2.1 isn't producing any performance graphs. Where do I start to troubleshoot?
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[14-Jan-2008 14:31:33] <klinstifen> morning...anyone awake in here?
[14-Jan-2008 14:31:48] <klinstifen> i'm looking for a mib to monitor Avg. Disk sec/Transfer on Windows hdd's
[14-Jan-2008 14:32:12] <klinstifen> * to monitor Avg. Disk sec/Transfer on hdd's in windows
[14-Jan-2008 15:21:50] <BrixWork> I'd like to send alerts to a user when an event is created, but not when it's cleared, is there a way to do that?
[14-Jan-2008 15:26:55] <Bulwinkle> BrixWork: yes
[14-Jan-2008 15:32:03] <BrixWork> cool, perhaps I should rephrase the question to more accuratly ask what I'm looking for
, "How do I setup an alert to notify when an event is created but not send the alert when it's cleared?"[14-Jan-2008 15:32:15] <BrixWork> hehe
[14-Jan-2008 15:38:01] <jaredo> Hello, im trying to setup interface monitoring on a cisco switch for sending events when an interface changes state. Can anyone point me to documention on this or how I might do this?
[14-Jan-2008 16:01:09] <BrixWork> Jaredo: I think you'd get that if you setup the cisco to send traps to ZenOSS, I think it sends ifdown/ifup traps.
[14-Jan-2008 16:02:33] <jaredo> ok ill try that
[14-Jan-2008 16:02:35] <jaredo> thanks
[14-Jan-2008 16:03:04] <BrixWork> you may find that you need to import the mibs as well to get meaningful info, but it's a start.
[14-Jan-2008 16:05:59] <BrixWork> on my earlier question... on not sending clear messages, found my answer and it's an obvious, id10t error on my part, helps if I read the screen....
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[14-Jan-2008 16:17:03] <MoreDakka> Anyone know a doc that can tell me how to install mibs on v1.1.1?
[14-Jan-2008 16:17:15] <MoreDakka> ver 2.1.2 is super easy.
[14-Jan-2008 17:08:16] <MoreDakka> nvm, found it.
[14-Jan-2008 17:35:42] <MuseHome> How does windows events show ip in zenoss? does a wmic aspp get them?
[14-Jan-2008 17:46:47] <twm1010> yes
[14-Jan-2008 17:47:07] <MuseHome> Does zeneventlog go get the events from the windows systems?
[14-Jan-2008 17:51:39] <jaredo> When sending test traps to the local system im not seeing any trap information in the event console
[14-Jan-2008 17:51:58] <jaredo> or under unknown
[14-Jan-2008 17:55:57] <jaredo> nm just got one
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[14-Jan-2008 18:12:52] <MuseHome> anyone know what "zeneventlog: Com GatewayCount" is?
[14-Jan-2008 18:23:55] <klinstifen> anyone doing web server monitoringA?
[14-Jan-2008 18:29:19] <johns55> yes watsup?
[14-Jan-2008 18:34:04] <MuseHome> johns55: Who are you replaying to? :-)
[14-Jan-2008 18:38:54] <johns55> MuseHome: klinstifen
[14-Jan-2008 18:40:43] <klinstifen> johns55: cool. i am wondering what sorta stats you are grabbing and whether or not you made any custom templates.
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:17] <klinstifen> i am currently getting default info...bytes/sec, requests/sec, connections/sec
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:32] <klinstifen> but that doesn't add up to anything that i can say "this is what we did total for today"
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:36] <klinstifen> know what i mean?
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:37] <johns55> is this through apache monitor zenpack?
[14-Jan-2008 18:41:46] <klinstifen> nah, i made an iis zenpack
[14-Jan-2008 18:42:01] <johns55> same thing pretty much
[14-Jan-2008 18:42:05] <johns55> have u considered awstats?
[14-Jan-2008 18:42:35] <johns55> thats what were using over here
[14-Jan-2008 18:43:52] <klinstifen> that looks pretty sweet
[14-Jan-2008 18:43:58] <johns55> yes it is
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:07] <klinstifen> i'll take a look...are you doing anything within zenoss?
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:20] <johns55> nothing special for stats
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:28] <johns55> we have apache webservers
[14-Jan-2008 18:44:48] <johns55> and the apache zenpack is useless to us because it actually slows down the webservers
[14-Jan-2008 18:45:26] <johns55> just monitor the http port, diskspace, etc
[14-Jan-2008 19:05:28] <klinstifen> johns55: ok thanks
[14-Jan-2008 19:18:55] <johns55> any install 2.1.7? any improvements?
[14-Jan-2008 19:25:47] <duncan> help! my zenhub keeps restarting and taking down other services with it.. I've been through the forums but and tried a few fixes but I'm still stuck. zenoss Zenoss 2.1.70 r8120 - compiled on Debian Etch
[14-Jan-2008 19:26:05] <johns55> wow latest build too
[14-Jan-2008 19:27:31] <duncan> well there weren't any debian binaries so...
[14-Jan-2008 19:28:00] <johns55> did u install it correctly? did u check /var/log/messages?
[14-Jan-2008 19:28:19] <klinstifen> did you rm zenhub.zec?
[14-Jan-2008 19:29:12] <duncan> no errors in /var/log/messages that I can see.. I just rebooted earlier because I had some zombie python processes from the services restarting constantly
[14-Jan-2008 19:29:30] <duncan> zenhub.zec? nope..
[14-Jan-2008 19:29:46] <duncan> it looks like zenhub is whats restarting and it's taking out services that rely on it
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:27] <klinstifen> duncan: try going to $ZENHOME/var
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:35] <klinstifen> and rm'ing zenhub-1.zec
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:44] <klinstifen> sometimes that gets corrupt
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:54] <klinstifen> and deleting it fixes zenhub probs
[14-Jan-2008 19:30:56] <duncan> klinstifen: thanks, I'll try it
[14-Jan-2008 19:34:02] <duncan> started up now, we'll see if it's stable =)
[14-Jan-2008 19:34:18] <duncan> this is the error from the zenhub log: 2008-01-14 14:31:30 ERROR watchdog: Timeout: getting initial connection from process
[14-Jan-2008 19:34:28] <duncan> and -- 2008-01-14 14:31:41 ERROR watchdog: Restarting zenhub
[14-Jan-2008 19:35:13] <duncan> ahh a new message: 2008-01-14 14:34:52 WARNING zenhub: removing listener
[14-Jan-2008 19:37:25] <duncan> 2008-01-14 14:36:58 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.DeadReferenceError: Calling Stale Broker
[14-Jan-2008 19:37:25] <duncan> ]
[14-Jan-2008 19:39:55] <duncan> hmm watchdog is still detecting a timeout getting status from zenhub and restarting it every 2 minutes
[14-Jan-2008 19:43:17] <duncan> this is the zenhub log: http://pastebin.ca/855065
[14-Jan-2008 19:43:25] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 855065 (at pastebin.ca)
[14-Jan-2008 19:51:38] <duncan> allright, I guess I'll delete and reinstall.. too bad about the 600 nodes I've already modeled -- any ideas before I blow it away? maybe I should use a binary release instead of compiling?
[14-Jan-2008 19:53:28] <duncan> I'm trying to convert from using OpenNMS to ZenOSS because I love the interface! But I need to stay Debian because if I can't get it to work I'll have to fall back on OpenNMS.
[14-Jan-2008 19:53:46] <duncan> Which is already compiled and running fine on this same box.
[14-Jan-2008 19:54:23] <duncan> Is there a stable snapshot out there? Maybe I'm using the trunk and it's not entirely stable?
[14-Jan-2008 19:54:24] <MuseHome> load up VMware... then you can move it anywhere.
[14-Jan-2008 19:54:52] <duncan> Will it run allright virtualized? It's a dell poweredge 1850 (4gb ram)
[14-Jan-2008 19:55:19] <MuseHome> 600 nodes?
[14-Jan-2008 19:55:37] <duncan> Well, probably around 1000
[14-Jan-2008 19:55:48] <duncan> only had 600 so far because the discovery broke halfway through
[14-Jan-2008 19:56:15] <johns55> duncan: there should be a backup script
[14-Jan-2008 19:56:30] <johns55> i believe its caleld zenbackup
[14-Jan-2008 19:57:21] <duncan> ahh I can keep my database? that would be awesome.. I'm so excited about this product. =) Python > Java
[14-Jan-2008 19:57:39] <johns55> duncan: yes zenbackup
[14-Jan-2008 19:57:49] <duncan> johns55: thanks I'll check it out
[14-Jan-2008 20:00:03] <duncan> where is this script located?
[14-Jan-2008 20:00:27] <duncan> nm
[14-Jan-2008 20:00:29] <johns55> "USR/LOCAL/ZENOSS/BIN/ZENBACKUP"
[14-Jan-2008 20:08:24] <johns55> anyone seen this error before from the zenwinmoder.log? has bad wmi state
[14-Jan-2008 20:27:55] <MuseHome> Is there a quick way to load in a tun of MIBs?
[14-Jan-2008 20:29:51] <maxamillion> what is the default login/password once zenoss is installed?
[14-Jan-2008 20:31:52] <klinstifen> max: admin zenoss
[14-Jan-2008 20:32:37] <maxamillion> klinstifen: thank you, is that somewhere in a document and i just missed it?
[14-Jan-2008 20:32:51] <maxamillion> klinstifen: it wasn't in the install guide and i didn't see it in the FAQ
[14-Jan-2008 20:32:57] <klinstifen> yeah, i think it's in both the quickstart and admin guide
[14-Jan-2008 20:33:35] <maxamillion> ah, i didn't check the quickstart ... though i did breifly check the admin guide, i must have missed it
[14-Jan-2008 20:33:41] <maxamillion> thank you for your help
[14-Jan-2008 20:52:38] <jaredo> If i send a test trap using snmptrap it shows up properly in events as unknown, however the traps my cisco router are sending out are not showing up anywhere
[14-Jan-2008 20:53:04] <jaredo> debug on the router shows the trap being sent out to the correct ip
[14-Jan-2008 20:53:48] <jaredo> is there a way to debug zentrap?
[14-Jan-2008 21:06:35] <klinstifen> jaredo: is there anything in the zentrap log?
[14-Jan-2008 21:13:49] <BrixWork> jaredo: what command are you using to send snmptrap test traps, I've tried what's in the admin guide and I get errors.
[14-Jan-2008 21:25:02] <BrixWork> is there anyone here from the Minneapolis/St. Paul area? More spicificly I'm looking to see if anyone knows if there are any ZenOSS User groups in the area.
[14-Jan-2008 21:26:00] <jaredo> BrixWork:snmptrap -v2c -c dls-private localhost 1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5.5 o
[14-Jan-2008 21:26:11] <jaredo> where dls-private is community
[14-Jan-2008 21:26:23] <jaredo> really any oid should work
[14-Jan-2008 21:27:07] <jaredo> my prob was an access lists on one of our switches i didnt see
[14-Jan-2008 21:27:14] <jaredo> was blocking snmp traffic
[14-Jan-2008 21:27:19] <jaredo> working now
[14-Jan-2008 21:43:22] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[14-Jan-2008 21:51:54] <duncan> so far so good, I removed the compiled version of zenoss, installed vmware and setup the VM version and it's restoring the backup now
[14-Jan-2008 21:52:30] <duncan> I noticed the disk is 5gb fixed? will this be enough for a 1000 node network? if not I can grow the disk but just curious
[14-Jan-2008 21:55:09] <BrixWork> jaredo: cool thanks
[14-Jan-2008 21:59:33] <maxamillion> after i have configured my snmp community strings, should the server start discovering things automatically? or is there something i need to do to tell it to start the discovery process? ... quickStart 3.1.2 seems slightly unclear about this
[14-Jan-2008 21:59:46] <jb> is zope not included in the el5 RPM anymore?
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:32] <maxamillion> jb: i believe it is ... i just installed on my el5 server and didn't have to grab any zope dependencies before installing the zenoss rpm
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:46] <jb> jb: the RPM does not contain /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl or zenctl
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:49] <jb> err\
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:51] <jb> maxamillion:
[14-Jan-2008 22:00:54] <maxamillion> oh .... huh
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:08] <jb> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:08] <jb> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:21] <jb> fresh install of 2.1.2 on centos5.1
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:30] <maxamillion> mine too
[14-Jan-2008 22:01:39] <maxamillion> i'm running x86_64 though .... if that might matter
[14-Jan-2008 22:02:17] <jb> hm
[14-Jan-2008 22:02:22] <jb> ive never had this issue with other installs
[14-Jan-2008 22:02:59] <jb> max: could you paste me the output of "rpm -ql zenoss* | grep zopectl" ?
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:01] <maxamillion> this was my first install .... so i probably wouldn't be of much help
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:06] <maxamillion> sure can
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:20] <duncan> to answer my previous question if anyone is reading along, 5gb is definitely too small for a 1000 node network, restoring the backup filled up my VM's vmdk
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:42] <maxamillion> jb: nothing output
[14-Jan-2008 22:03:58] <jb> max: so you dont have a /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl file?
[14-Jan-2008 22:05:07] <maxamillion> jb: yes, that file i have
[14-Jan-2008 22:05:17] <maxamillion> not sure why it didn't show up in the rpm query
[14-Jan-2008 22:05:45] <jb> hm
[14-Jan-2008 22:06:30] <jb> this is odd
[14-Jan-2008 22:06:34] <jb> and which RPM did you install?
[14-Jan-2008 22:06:52] <maxamillion> jb: just a moment
[14-Jan-2008 22:07:42] <maxamillion> jb: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-2.1.2-0.el5.x86_64.rpm
[14-Jan-2008 22:07:45] <maxamillion> that's the one i downloaded
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:01] <jb> alrighty
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:04] <jb> thanks
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:08] <jb> I have no idea whats going on here
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:11] <maxamillion> np
[14-Jan-2008 22:08:14] <maxamillion> i sorry
[14-Jan-2008 22:09:56] <MuseHome> Is there a quick way to load in a ton of MIBs? and dependencies?
[14-Jan-2008 22:10:32] <MuseHome> can I just do a zenmib run * in the mib dir?
[14-Jan-2008 22:10:38] <jb> hmm, I think so
[14-Jan-2008 22:10:44] <jb> I *think* I have done *
[14-Jan-2008 22:11:29] <jb> max: ok, think I fixed it.
[14-Jan-2008 22:11:42] <jb> I had to touch /opt/zenoss/bin/.fresh_install
[14-Jan-2008 22:11:45] <jb> for some reason
[14-Jan-2008 22:12:10] <MuseHome> Do you know how the sites work? like iana, ietf, irtf, site and tubs... Do I need my mibs in all or one spot?
[14-Jan-2008 22:45:25] <duncan> what is the default zenoss user password for the vmware vm?
[14-Jan-2008 22:46:55] <duncan> hmm the restore process fails and gives me an error: Access denied for user `zenoss`@`localhost` (using password: NO)
[14-Jan-2008 22:48:39] <maxamillion> duncan: try user:admin pass:zenoss
[14-Jan-2008 22:49:23] <duncan> maxamillion: for the zenrestore? I know that's the default to log into zope.. but I'm trying to import ~600 nodes to my VM
[14-Jan-2008 22:52:27] <maxamillion> duncan: oh ... that i'm not too sure about
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[14-Jan-2008 23:04:21] <aurax> hello anyone around ?
[14-Jan-2008 23:08:29] <aurax> anyone fermilier with this snmp error?
[14-Jan-2008 23:08:30] <aurax> Cannot find module (ux): At line 0 in (none)
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:40] <johns55> yes
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:47] <aurax> hi
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:50] <johns55> r u on a windows box?
[14-Jan-2008 23:15:55] <aurax> nope, centos
[14-Jan-2008 23:16:13] <aurax> 4.5
[14-Jan-2008 23:16:18] <johns55> so you're on a centos box running zenoss and performing an snmpwalk on another centos box?
[14-Jan-2008 23:16:47] <aurax> no, zenoss running on ubuntu server and the device is centos
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:08] <johns55> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:17] <aurax> and this error is coming from the device
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:22] <aurax> while trying to start snmpd
[14-Jan-2008 23:17:34] <johns55> ok so you're on the ubuntu server running an snmpwalk on the centos server?
[14-Jan-2008 23:18:40] <aurax> yep
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:00] <johns55> do u have snmp running on both servers?
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:10] <aurax> no that's what im saying
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:12] <johns55> and configuered your snmpd.conf correctly?
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:16] <aurax> the error above comes from snmpd
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:21] <aurax> that some module is missing
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:36] <johns55> do an snmpd -H
[14-Jan-2008 23:19:41] <johns55> and see what that gives u
[14-Jan-2008 23:20:23] <johns55> also do an rpm -qa | grep snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:20:28] <johns55> and see what that gives u
[14-Jan-2008 23:20:33] <aurax> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:07] <aurax> it prints out some info
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:13] <johns55> any errors?
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:33] <aurax> AES support is not avilable
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:39] <aurax> hmm nothing more
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:46] <johns55> what about the rpm command?
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:51] <aurax> same
[14-Jan-2008 23:21:58] <aurax> 5.1.2-11
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:03] <aurax> net-snmp-libs
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:06] <aurax> and net-snmp-utils
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:08] <aurax> and net-snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:26] <johns55> ok, have u made any changes to your snmpd.conf?
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:30] <aurax> snmpconf
[14-Jan-2008 23:22:38] <aurax> to enable public r/w
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:05] <johns55> did u install from source or binary?
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:17] <aurax> snmp?
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:22] <johns55> zenoss
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:23] <aurax> binray/yum
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:28] <aurax> zenoss from source
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:33] <aurax> but zenoss got nothing to do with it...
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:38] <aurax> it's weird snmpd problem
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:50] <johns55> ok go to your source tree
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:59] <johns55> there should be an snmpd.conf on there u can use
[14-Jan-2008 23:23:59] <aurax> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:06] <johns55> that gives better permission
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:19] <aurax> ok..
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:20] <johns55> cp that to /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:26] <johns55> then restart snmpd
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:38] <johns55> do that for both the zenoss server and the server u want to monitor
[14-Jan-2008 23:24:50] <aurax> ok one sec
[14-Jan-2008 23:25:38] <johns55> the snmpd.conf should be in the conf folder in the source tree
[14-Jan-2008 23:25:47] <aurax> yeh found it
[14-Jan-2008 23:26:38] <aurax> noep fails
[14-Jan-2008 23:26:39] <aurax> nope*
[14-Jan-2008 23:26:50] <johns55> may i log on and see?
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:03] <aurax> ah
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:06] <aurax> it's behing a nat
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:14] <johns55> hrm
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:26] <aurax> company's server...
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:35] <johns55> ok run snmpd -H and pastebin that output to me
[14-Jan-2008 23:27:39] <aurax> ok
[14-Jan-2008 23:30:10] <aurax> http://pastebin.com/m5d6f1984
[14-Jan-2008 23:30:20] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Jan-2008 23:31:27] <aurax> brb
[14-Jan-2008 23:31:52] <duncan> wow, ok vmware performance is rather poor for a 1000 node network.. I'm going to have to find a different solution
[14-Jan-2008 23:32:37] <duncan> I upped the memory from 640mb to 2gb, raised the HDD size from 5gb to 36gb, and it takes about 30 seconds to load the dashboard
[14-Jan-2008 23:34:11] <aurax> im running zenoss on a dell poweredge 2950 with two quad core xeons and 4gb
[14-Jan-2008 23:34:38] <aurax> and raid0 2x146gb 15k
[14-Jan-2008 23:34:45] <aurax> no latency
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:00] <duncan> this is an 1850 dual 4gb.. runs great native but the vmware overhead is killer
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:10] <duncan> non raid
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:10] <aurax> yeah what os?
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:17] <duncan> debian etch
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:20] <aurax> good...
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:26] <aurax> you get performace issueS
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:27] <aurax> hmm
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:30] <aurax> you tuned it up ?
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:37] <duncan> I compiled the latest earlier but the daemons were crashing..
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:48] <duncan> I took someones suggestion to try the vmware appliance
[14-Jan-2008 23:35:51] <aurax> i got it up on ubuntu realllly smooth.
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:03] <aurax> but nah, i aint running it under vmware
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:07] <duncan> yea it was really smooth to compile
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:08] <aurax> on the vmware host tho
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:14] <aurax> but not as vm
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:18] <aurax> waste..
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:32] <aurax> i don't think vmware is capable of holding 1k nodes..
[14-Jan-2008 23:36:39] <aurax> i mean with stability..
[14-Jan-2008 23:37:06] <duncan> I'm not sure what the vmware app is for really.. I had to resize the parition just to be able to restore my backup from this morning
[14-Jan-2008 23:37:31] <duncan> maybe small 10 node networks that just need SLA
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:01] <duncan> anyway, I'm out of here... I'll try ubu 7.10 tom
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:06] <aurax> good
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:07] <aurax> luck
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:12] <duncan> ty
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:16] <aurax> go for 7.10-server
[14-Jan-2008 23:38:20] <aurax> ahh..
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:50] <johns55> ok aurax: did you paste everything?
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:53] <johns55> looks like top half is missing
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:53] <aurax> yep
[14-Jan-2008 23:39:58] <aurax> really?
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:18] <johns55> yes
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:21] <johns55> let me show u mine
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:27] <aurax> damn how can i fix it
[14-Jan-2008 23:40:46] <johns55> what is the snmpwalk command u use?
[14-Jan-2008 23:41:14] <johns55> http://pastebin.com/ma6c78eb
[14-Jan-2008 23:41:24] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Jan-2008 23:41:27] <aurax> i'm just trying to start the service, no snmpwalk
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:03] <johns55> ohh so starting the service gives u those errors?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:10] <aurax> yep
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:11] <johns55> the mib not found?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:14] <aurax> ux
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:22] <johns55> hrm..
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:25] <aurax> what's ux?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:26] <johns55> you're running 5.2.1?
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:28] <aurax> ype
[14-Jan-2008 23:42:30] <aurax> yep*
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:12] <johns55> geez..have u tried to remove and re-install?
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:29] <johns55> do a yum update before that also
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:40] <aurax> it's a fresh install
[14-Jan-2008 23:43:49] <aurax> centos 4.5...
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:04] <johns55> type /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:06] <johns55> and tell me what u see
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:27] <aurax> i get [ OK ] message.
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:32] <aurax> looks like it's running up
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:42] <aurax> but when i try to 'shutdown' it says failes
[14-Jan-2008 23:44:47] <aurax> becuase it's never really got up
[14-Jan-2008 23:45:18] <johns55> type lsof -i -n -P | grep snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:45:40] <aurax> nada
[14-Jan-2008 23:45:49] <johns55> wth...
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:05] <johns55> do a tail /var/log/messages
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:11] <aurax> also in my good snmp servers it's gives empty output
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:12] <johns55> see if u find anything related to starting the service
[14-Jan-2008 23:46:58] <johns55> r u getting these erros on the ubuntu server too?
[14-Jan-2008 23:47:26] <aurax> no
[14-Jan-2008 23:47:40] <aurax> but i got other centos servers that are working fine
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:09] <johns55> hrm, at this pt i suggest removing the yum install of snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:17] <johns55> and installing from source on the net-snmp website
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:38] <johns55> the problem most likely lies with the install
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:40] <johns55> of snmp
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:44] <johns55> or your OS
[14-Jan-2008 23:48:51] <aurax> hmm
[14-Jan-2008 23:49:00] <aurax> google say's nothing about this error
[14-Jan-2008 23:49:18] <johns55> so /var/log/messages doeesnt come up with anything?
[14-Jan-2008 23:49:35] <aurax> which is really stange... because there is nothng different with those installations
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:49] <johns55> yeah, there shouldnt be a reason why snmpd would not start at all
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:49] <aurax> johns55, thank you very much but i gtg ... its 2 am over here
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:56] <johns55> where r u located?
[14-Jan-2008 23:51:58] <aurax> u will be around here tomorrow?
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:00] <aurax> israel
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:05] <johns55> wow
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:06] <johns55> yes
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:20] <aurax> coo, i'll jump by
hee[14-Jan-2008 23:52:33] <aurax> nite!
[14-Jan-2008 23:52:41] <johns55> =D
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[15-Jan-2008 01:49:45] <iliad> Was wondering if anyone can help adding a mib to Zenoss..on a virtual appliance?
[15-Jan-2008 01:50:54] <iliad> when trying to run zenbmib, it errors out /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory, but the file is there.
[15-Jan-2008 01:52:32] <iliad> The script references $ZENHOME which seems to resolve to /root, rather then /zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 01:52:47] <iliad> or is there any 1 here?
[15-Jan-2008 01:52:54] <iliad> :-)?
[15-Jan-2008 03:22:59] <chowmeined> Is there a way to apply templates based on discovered characteristics automatically? I have a dell poweredge zenpack, is there a way to have it auto apply to certain dell machines based on model numbers etc? Also, how can I add the ability for zenoss to pull model info, service tags etc and put it on the main info page for each of my servers (its all available with SNMP, I just don't know how to add it)
[15-Jan-2008 03:23:32] <chowmeined> And finally, some of my servers have different raid configurations, is there a way I can have the snmp monitoring template have smarter thresholds to account for servers with different configurations?
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[15-Jan-2008 12:37:01] <twm10101> mornin east coasters
[15-Jan-2008 15:04:49] <klinstifen> when graphing a line, i've noticed that the line width seems to not apply (i.e changing it from 1 to 5 does nothing)
[15-Jan-2008 15:04:54] <klinstifen> can anyone else confirm this?
[15-Jan-2008 15:12:41] <duncan> morning! I just compiled and installed zenoss again and with a blank install, zenhub is spewing out these errors: http://pastebin.ca/856092 -- anyone seen this or have an idea what might be causing it? =)
[15-Jan-2008 15:12:50] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 856092 (at pastebin.ca)
[15-Jan-2008 15:29:05] <twm10101> duncan
[15-Jan-2008 15:29:09] <twm10101> is MySQL started?
[15-Jan-2008 15:33:21] <duncan> twm10101: yes
[15-Jan-2008 15:40:52] <twm10101> hrmm... that ones out of my realm
[15-Jan-2008 15:41:06] <twm10101> what os?
[15-Jan-2008 15:41:15] <twm10101> err /distro?
[15-Jan-2008 15:41:39] <twm10101> duncan: what distro, and which ver. zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 15:42:16] <duncan> twm10101: debian etch, Zenoss 2.1.70 r8135 as of 0900 est today
[15-Jan-2008 15:42:56] <twm10101> Hrmm... why don't you try 2.1.2
[15-Jan-2008 15:43:15] <twm10101> .70 is an alpha build
[15-Jan-2008 15:43:28] <twm10101> and they changed the ver. of python i believe
[15-Jan-2008 15:44:21] <twm10101> There's a lot of posts on the forum about installing on Debian though
[15-Jan-2008 15:46:22] <duncan> twm10101: I'll check out the forums. I just wanted to check if it was a known or easily spotted issue.
[15-Jan-2008 15:48:23] <jro> I added a user to the zenuser role, is there a way i can give that role permission to view the event console?
[15-Jan-2008 15:48:30] <jro> Or is there a way to add custom roles?
[15-Jan-2008 15:58:50] <klinstifen> anyone defined custom graph points, specifically DEF's?
[15-Jan-2008 15:59:08] <klinstifen> I have defined mine with a consolidation of AVERAGE and the graph breaks...not sure what's going on
[15-Jan-2008 16:01:03] <maxamillion> where might i find documentation on how to get the google maps overlay working with my network map?
[15-Jan-2008 16:01:50] <klinstifen> max: is there a certain aspect that isn't working? the admin guide has general info
[15-Jan-2008 16:03:19] <maxamillion> klinstifen: ah, ok ... i was under the impression that it was a zenpack and i wasn't able to find anything about it ... thank you, i will check the admin guide
[15-Jan-2008 16:04:01] <klinstifen> nah, it's part of the install
[15-Jan-2008 16:04:11] <klinstifen> it's pretty easy to configure
[15-Jan-2008 16:04:19] <maxamillion> awesome
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[15-Jan-2008 16:06:27] <maxamillion> klinstifen: where might i aquire an API key?
[15-Jan-2008 16:06:27] <klinstifen> anyone have custom DEF's defined?
[15-Jan-2008 16:06:47] <klinstifen> if you follow the directions in the admin guide there is a link to the google page
[15-Jan-2008 16:07:08] <maxamillion> klinstifen: yeah, i just found the link ... sorry for the premature question
[15-Jan-2008 16:07:11] <klinstifen> you give it your domain name (i.e. whatever.whatevercompany.com) and your email addy then they give you the key
[15-Jan-2008 16:07:35] <klinstifen> tis ok
[15-Jan-2008 16:21:00] <klinstifen> where are the logs for zenrender located?
[15-Jan-2008 16:24:33] <maxamillion> klinstifen: check /opt/zenoss/log/
[15-Jan-2008 16:28:07] <twm10101> klinstifen: i did one with min or max the other day, theres a whole bunch of them you can use
[15-Jan-2008 16:29:58] <klinstifen> twm: i am trying mine with AVERAGE...but something is wrong
[15-Jan-2008 16:30:14] <klinstifen> twm: what was the path you used to your rrd file? rrdPath/yourfile.rrd?
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[15-Jan-2008 16:40:04] <twm10101> i thought they were all in ZENHOME/perf/Devices/Servername/filename.rrd
[15-Jan-2008 16:40:33] <duncan> new forum post: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=15337
[15-Jan-2008 16:40:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - AttributeError: 'Event' object has no attribute 'component' (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2008 16:41:21] <phreekbird> OK, so I setup Zenoos without a problem ... did the autodiscovery (which only found a small protion of the devices on the network), how can I add other devices manually? what steps can I take to setup Zenoss, and how do i get rid of the darn snmp and zenwin errors?
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:03] <twm10101> phreekbird: thats a loaded question
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:16] <phreekbird> oh boy
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:32] <twm10101> zenoss will discover anything that responds to an SNMP walk
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:40] <twm10101> and attempt to model those devices
[15-Jan-2008 16:42:57] <phreekbird> well i do not think my predisesors setup snmp at all ...
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:18] <phreekbird> cuase its mostly hit and miss and most of the devices i have automagicly found are usually printers
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:28] <twm10101> if those devices have different allowed snmp communities or SNMP is not setup, the walk will fail, and the dee
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:33] <twm10101> devices won't get added
[15-Jan-2008 16:43:42] <twm10101> right, because HP and most other printers are setup for SNMP by default
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:04] <phreekbird> exactly ... so im feeling i got to go to every dev and setup snmp?
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:05] <twm10101> are most of your systems windows or linux?
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:09] <phreekbird> dang thats gonna stink
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:14] <phreekbird> winshaft
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:26] <twm10101> okay.
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:29] <phreekbird> a few nix machines that i have setup sense i took over
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:43] <twm10101> there are a few things you gotta do
[15-Jan-2008 16:44:52] <twm10101> first, decide on your SNMP community name your going to use.
[15-Jan-2008 16:45:22] <phreekbird> done
[15-Jan-2008 16:45:28] <twm10101> I used something clever, like Z3n0SS
[15-Jan-2008 16:45:49] * phreekbird writes out a checklist as you say this ... checks off number1 (uses company name)
[15-Jan-2008 16:46:13] <twm10101> well, if you're going to use the company name, do some case changes and/or number substitutions
[15-Jan-2008 16:46:25] <phreekbird> y is that?
[15-Jan-2008 16:46:45] <twm10101> SNMP has the capbility to make CHANGES to devices, if someone discovers your community name on a read/write community, they can seriously destroy your infrastructure
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:15] <twm10101> most devices will allow you to setup a read only, and a read/write community
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:17] <phreekbird> i thought thats what public/private was for ... set public for medicor set private for something else?
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:18] <twm10101> stick with read only, for now
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:32] <phreekbird> oh ... ok i smell what u r steppin in
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:34] <phreekbird> =D
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:35] <twm10101> exactly, i think you get the idea
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:47] <twm10101> by default, the read only community is "public" and the r/w is "private"
[15-Jan-2008 16:47:54] <phreekbird> Z3n0ss it is then
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:03] <twm10101> well, whatever you like, but be consistent about it
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:12] <phreekbird> k
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:43] <twm10101> do you understand how zProperties works?
[15-Jan-2008 16:48:52] <phreekbird> nope
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:06] <twm10101> how about a *nix filesystem?
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:25] <phreekbird> all debian etch based
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:40] <twm10101> i mean to say, do you know how unix filesystem privileges work?
[15-Jan-2008 16:49:49] <phreekbird> yes
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:05] <twm10101> ok, well think of zProperties as filesystem attributes
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:14] <twm10101> the files being the "devices" you've added to zenoss
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:15] <phreekbird> ok
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:22] <duncan> headsup: macworld 08 in 10 minutes, check your liveblogs
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:27] <twm10101> and the device classes are "directories"
[15-Jan-2008 16:50:44] <chowmeined> you can auto install the snmp component using a command line script
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:01] <chowmeined> and you can apply snmp community settings to windows directory with an AD group policy
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:14] <twm10101> and zProperties descend down through the device classes, until you make an exception
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:21] <chowmeined> er.. windows machines*
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:23] <twm10101> So if you click on "devices" on the left side
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:40] <twm10101> chowmeined : if you can e-mail me that script, i would be very grateful
[15-Jan-2008 16:51:48] <phreekbird> OK i setup the classes ... what i mean is i assigned the devices that where automagicly descovered to a specific class
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:08] <twm10101> Click on Devices, and hit zProperties
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:14] <phreekbird> i even figured out how to make a new class (dont know how i did it but i managed to create /Network/WirelessAP
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:27] <chowmeined> twm10101, phreekbird http://myitforum.com/articles/15/view.asp?id=8792
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:53] <adytum-bot> Title: myITforum.com : Using the Windows System stand-alone Optional Component Manager (sysocmgr) (at myitforum.com)
[15-Jan-2008 16:52:56] <phreekbird> thanks chowmeined
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:00] <chowmeined> it even lets you set all the initial snmp options first.. and you can force the rest with active directory
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:14] <twm10101> nice chow, nice... thats going to save me some time
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:22] <twm10101> So basically, what I
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:36] <twm10101> am getting at here, is you want to set your SNMP communitys in the zProperties of /Devices
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:48] <twm10101> and that setting will then automatically descend to all devices classes below it
[15-Jan-2008 16:53:57] <phreekbird> oh
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:01] <phreekbird> ok i think i c
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:11] <phreekbird> sec lemme go have a looksee at the page
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:29] <twm10101> but say you wanted to use a different community for your winblows servers, you could go to /Devices/Servers/Windows/zProperties/ and set different communities there
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:52] <phreekbird> zSnmpCommunities already has public and private
[15-Jan-2008 16:54:55] <phreekbird> oh thats nice
[15-Jan-2008 16:55:05] <twm10101> right, go ahead and add yours in there
[15-Jan-2008 16:55:16] <twm10101> that way when you run a discovery, it will also use yours to attempt to snmpwalk the devices it finds
[15-Jan-2008 16:55:44] <twm10101> there is also a field below that where you can specify a "default" community for it to use.
[15-Jan-2008 16:56:50] <twm10101> To monitor windows, fast and dirty, you will need to install the SNMP service (if its not there already) and configure it on the security tab to use whatever communities you like
[15-Jan-2008 16:57:09] <twm10101> using a default zenoss installation, you will also need to download the SNMP Informant
[15-Jan-2008 16:57:25] <twm10101> which is just an SNMP extension that zenoss queries for performance goodies
[15-Jan-2008 16:58:23] <twm10101> Zenoss will also use WMI to read Windows logs, so, you need to give it credentials that will get it into the windows box. these are set in the zProperties of /Devices/Server/Windows
[15-Jan-2008 16:58:42] <twm10101> having fun yet?
[15-Jan-2008 16:59:25] <chris____> twm10101: That's been a great explanation, and I enjoyed it. I have a couple of questions, though.
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[15-Jan-2008 17:00:11] <chris_d> In my device classes, I've broken my Linux servers into two groups.
[15-Jan-2008 17:00:49] <chris_d> I need to be able to add a port check for ssh (port 22) to only one of the two groups.
[15-Jan-2008 17:00:53] <chris_d> How do I do this?
[15-Jan-2008 17:01:50] <twm10101> Hrmm... i would think thats a per/device thing, rather then a per/class thing
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:08] <chris_d> twm10101: Urgh. I have 120 devices in that class...
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:10] <chris_d>
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:27] <twm10101> There is probably a way chris, I'm just not familiar with it. I'm learning too here
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:29] <chris_d> I've been able to do things like add temperature sensors to only one class.
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:31] <twm10101> <-- linux newbie
[15-Jan-2008 17:02:56] <twm10101> You did that through performance templates?
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:04] <chris_d> twm10101: Yes.
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:26] <chris_d> But the IP server template is marked "For future use"
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:45] <twm10101> well service monitoring is more of a device thing, then a "performance" thing
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:50] <twm10101> there has to be a way though
[15-Jan-2008 17:03:53] <chris_d> And I understand that templates work the same way as zProperties in that they apply to the class from wherever you are on down.
[15-Jan-2008 17:04:09] <twm10101> right... but this is a different type of monitoring
[15-Jan-2008 17:04:21] <twm10101> i get the feeling you will go about this from a different menu here hold on
[15-Jan-2008 17:04:34] <chris_d> twm10101: Thanks for any ideas!
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:23] <twm10101> heres an idea, how many do you NOT want it to monitor
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:32] <chowmeined> see i dont understand that part
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:47] <chris_d> Well, I want it to monitor *all* servers in a specific class.
[15-Jan-2008 17:06:48] <chowmeined> zenoss went to all the trouble to have these device classes and I know python supports multiple inheritence
[15-Jan-2008 17:07:42] <chowmeined> why cant you use the locations, groups and systems as well as device classes to set options based on certain characteristics
[15-Jan-2008 17:08:24] <twm10101> chowmeined: i think it would get mind-boggling
[15-Jan-2008 17:08:35] <chowmeined> so you can have all the ones that are located at X get these options.. and you can have the ones that do function Y get these options.. and you can have the ones used by userbase Z get these options..
[15-Jan-2008 17:08:45] <chowmeined> it would be flexible
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:03] <twm10101> i just think it would get insane, and you'd have serious trouble deciding which one takes priority
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:09] <chowmeined> because right now i dont have an easy way to set monitoring on some service to a subset of my devices in a certain category
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:12] <twm10101> would a group or system take priortiy of a device class?
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:44] <twm10101> hold on, let me RTFM
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:45] <chowmeined> im not saying use that as a solution.... thats just an idea
[15-Jan-2008 17:09:54] <twm10101> everytime i think i can't figure out, i'll be damned there it is
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:14] <jb_> for those of you using dell's/linux/OMSA.. shouldnt the "Serial #" field in ZenOSS automatically be populated with the Dell service tag?
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:15] <chowmeined> im just talking about a way to apply settings to groups of devices
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:30] <chowmeined> jb_, it doesn't for me.. if you figure that out please let me know
[15-Jan-2008 17:10:35] <chris_d> twm10101: You must be reading a different manual.
I've tried to figure this out, but no luck.[15-Jan-2008 17:10:43] <jb_> cho: it did for me in previous versions.. not in 2.1.2 tho
[15-Jan-2008 17:11:13] <chowmeined> I've been unable to get zenoss to query dell/omsa information and use it in a sane way
[15-Jan-2008 17:11:19] <twm10101> chris: its a bear of a manual, and its meant for someone with alot of experience
[15-Jan-2008 17:11:34] <jb_> what model/ver of OMSA?
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:09] <chowmeined> x650s - x2950s, using OMSA 5.3
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:15] <chowmeined> er x950s
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:23] <chowmeined> nevermind
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:35] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:49] <chowmeined> just lots of different models
[15-Jan-2008 17:12:53] <chowmeined> new ones and old ones
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:05] <chowmeined> are you monitoring raid arrays with zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:07] <jb_> and its not working on any of them?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:08] <jb_> yeah
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:17] <jb_> how do you mean?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:29] <jb_> i get alerts if a drive goes bad, array degraded, etc..
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:31] <twm10101> Ya know what. I don't know there guys. Perhaps one of the Zenoss guys can chime in here (looks at RAK)
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:38] <jb_> i *did*.. reconfiguring everything now
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:44] <rakATzenoss> yo what's up?
[15-Jan-2008 17:13:48] <chowmeined> yea, they send snmp traps i think
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:01] <chowmeined> but it doesnt seem to pull information
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:05] <BrixHome> I'm having problems figuring out event correlation, specifically how to correlate a down to an up event where port name and up/down state are being passed in varbinds of the SNMP trap?
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:05] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:11] <jb_> you have the MIB's installed?
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:28] <chowmeined> yea, thats for the traps
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:31] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: We're trying to come up with a way to apply an IPService check to a single class of devices.
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:37] <jb_> so you arent getting any traps?
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:41] <twm10101> yeah, he summed it up great
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:43] <chowmeined> im getting traps
[15-Jan-2008 17:14:54] <twm10101> to apply, or to remove actually
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:12] <jb_> so whats not working?
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:20] <twm10101> Like, say we wanted to remove or add the SSH service monitor to all devices within a device class
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:35] <twm10101> port 22 that is, we're talking TCP port monitoring
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:47] <jb_> this is strange.. i *know* older versions used to automatically populate the serial # field..
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:50] <chowmeined> jb_, its not pulling the service tag, or filling in other dell specific information for me.. and
[15-Jan-2008 17:15:55] <jb_> ah ok
[15-Jan-2008 17:16:00] <jb_> yeah, that used to work for me on most boxes
[15-Jan-2008 17:16:02] <jb_> but not in 2.1.2
[15-Jan-2008 17:17:31] <rakATzenoss> jb_, is there something I can help with?
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:07] <twm10101> I see where in /Services/blah/blah/SSH i can disable or enable the default monitoring of a service
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:24] <jb_> rakat: yep, in 2.1.2, with dell servers/OMSA, Zenoss is not pulling the service tag, hardware vendor, etc
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:45] <jb_> rakATzenoss: any ideas?.. as far as I know, this info should be pulling this automatically
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:50] <chowmeined> jb_, im using 2.1.1 btw
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:55] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 17:18:59] <phreekbird> wow chowmeined ... looks like this script works for my local box
[15-Jan-2008 17:20:06] <phreekbird> wow it dose work
[15-Jan-2008 17:20:14] <chowmeined> twm10101, phreekbird theres a downside, the default location that it looks to for installation files (i386 dir) needs to be available otherwise it will error.. you can change that in the registry though.. i think its on that page
[15-Jan-2008 17:20:41] <phreekbird> need to edit the holly crap outof the answer file ...yea i notiecd that
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:18] <phreekbird> you know what this means "Service = Physical, Applications, End-to-End"
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:23] <phreekbird> ?
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:30] <twm10101> yeah we do that by default
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:34] <chowmeined> those are some check marks on the snmp configuration page... i never touch them
[15-Jan-2008 17:21:51] <phreekbird> ok
[15-Jan-2008 17:22:18] <phreekbird> Accept_CommunityName = Public:Read_Only <--- i want to replace Public with my chosen community name right?
[15-Jan-2008 17:22:42] <rakATzenoss> Did you check to see if the DellMonitor plugin is attached to your device group?
[15-Jan-2008 17:23:41] <chowmeined> phreekbird, yes
[15-Jan-2008 17:26:17] <rakATzenoss> jp_ send me an smnp walk of your machine...
[15-Jan-2008 17:26:22] <rakATzenoss> rak@zenoss.com
[15-Jan-2008 17:27:30] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Any hints on IPService monitoring by class?
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:06] <rakATzenoss> So you want to basically say -- monitor <this> service for all devices in <this> group?
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:32] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Yes. ssh, in this case.
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:56] <rakATzenoss> ok.
[15-Jan-2008 17:28:58] <rakATzenoss> let me see here.
[15-Jan-2008 17:29:51] <chowmeined> where do I apply plugins such as DellMonitor at?
[15-Jan-2008 17:30:03] <chowmeined> its not listed under templates
[15-Jan-2008 17:30:44] <chowmeined> oh, collector plugins
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:07] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:31] <rakATzenoss> chris_d, for the time being you cannot attach a Service or Process to a group.
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:52] <jb_> rakaATzenoss: no, I didnt.. let me check that
[15-Jan-2008 17:31:59] <chowmeined> theres DellDeviceMap and DellCPUMap
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:06] <chowmeined> but not DellMonitor
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:09] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: So machine by machine?
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:26] <chowmeined> chris_d, you could write a python script to automate it
[15-Jan-2008 17:32:52] <rakATzenoss> Globally created, then overridden locally.
[15-Jan-2008 17:33:15] <rakATzenoss> that's it -- DellDeviceMap should do the trick.
[15-Jan-2008 17:33:42] <twm10101> rak: thats a bummer. not everyone is proficient at python scripting
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:04] <rakATzenoss> understood.
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:20] <twm10101> add that to the list of "little things that would make a big difference" list
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:32] <chris_d> While I've got everyone here, I have one other major issue.
[15-Jan-2008 17:34:46] <rakATzenoss> like I said, this model doesn't fit well with the rest of the model, so it may be rolled into the product in a later version in a more consistent implementation.
[15-Jan-2008 17:35:23] <chris_d> A couple of times a day, I loose heartbeat on multiple ZenOSS services. They come back fairly quickly on their own, but I have gaps in my performance charts anytime one occurs.
[15-Jan-2008 17:35:37] <twm10101> chris: is your Zenoss server on stout hardware?
[15-Jan-2008 17:35:50] <chris_d> twm10101: Yup. Pretty major.
[15-Jan-2008 17:36:07] <chowmeined> rakATzenoss, When I do "model device", the DellDeviceMap is listed as being used.. but the service tag doesn't show up still
[15-Jan-2008 17:36:57] <chris_d> twm10101: Dual core Opterons running amd64.
[15-Jan-2008 17:36:58] <jb_> rakATzenoss: sorry, will send you that in one sec
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:04] <chowmeined> no, sorry.. it shows DellCPUMap and DeviceMap but not DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:11] <chris_d> twm10101: Oops, Opteron, singular.
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:15] <chowmeined> where would I add that back?
[15-Jan-2008 17:37:52] <rakATzenoss> asking around here, I'm told that there was an issue causing the dell service tag not to be pulled in versions between your older one and 2.1.2, but it was addressed.
[15-Jan-2008 17:38:07] <rakATzenoss> Let me search thru the bug database and see if I can track this down.
[15-Jan-2008 17:38:17] <chowmeined> oh ok
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:01] <rakATzenoss> so chris_d you want to turn off monitoring of sshd for all services then selectively enable?
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:29] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Currently, ssh is not being monitored on any machines.
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:36] <jb_> rakATzenoss: I emailed you an snmpwalk
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:39] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: I'd like to monitor the machines in a specific class
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:47] <rakATzenoss> great thanks jb_ .
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:53] <jb_> thank you
[15-Jan-2008 17:39:58] <twm10101> chris: without having to go add the "Service" to each device individually
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:00] <twm10101> right?
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:07] <rakATzenoss> right, so you'd like to disable all monitoring for sshd outside this class.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:11] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: twm10101 Yes, right.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:16] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: Yes.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:21] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: That would work, too.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:38] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: And, to be clear, it's not so much monitoring sshd, it's seeing if the ssh port responds.
[15-Jan-2008 17:40:49] <twm10101> right, TCP port monitoring
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:00] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: The problem is that these machines sometimes become so heavily loaded that there is a significant delay in their ssh response.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:03] <twm10101> the portscan done in the device modeling should have picked up the open port, and added it
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:11] <chris_d> rakATzenoss: We'd like a warning when that happens.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:30] <chris_d> twm10101: Yes, but it won't be "monitored", I believe.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:36] <rakATzenoss> right -- the device modeling would pick up any monitored service.
[15-Jan-2008 17:41:46] <rakATzenoss> the default is to monitor.
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:10] <chris_d> I'm looking at one of the devices now.
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:16] <rakATzenoss> there's just no way to disable this auto-discovery of services globally.
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:41] <chris_d> I should see the ports being monitored under OS, right?
[15-Jan-2008 17:42:56] <twm10101> chris: if the port was open when the device was modeled, yes
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:08] <twm10101> SSH would have been picked up via the portscan
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:13] <rakATzenoss> the default service policy can be set at the service level.
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:27] <rakATzenoss> that is right chris_d
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:32] <chris_d> The port was open when the device was modeled, but there is nothing under the IP Service table under OS.
[15-Jan-2008 17:43:43] <twm10101> in my defaults SSH is not set as a "monitored" service, I had to go turn it on.
[15-Jan-2008 17:45:00] <twm10101> I just changed my SSH ip service to "true" under monitoring. I'm remodeling a linux machine, lets see if it adds it
[15-Jan-2008 17:46:20] <twm10101> nope, i had to go add it
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:05] <chris_d> twm10101: That's my experience, too.
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:21] <chowmeined> firewall?
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:37] <twm10101> no firewall here
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:40] <chris_d> chowmeined: Nope, or I wouldn't be able to ssh to these machines.
[15-Jan-2008 17:47:41] <chris_d>
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:14] <chowmeined> um, well we have ssh block on all but our range
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:19] <chowmeined> blocked*.. so
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:33] <twm10101> gotcha
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:34] <chowmeined> just an idea
[15-Jan-2008 17:49:56] <twm10101> its possibly port scanning only happens during initial modeling?
[15-Jan-2008 17:50:23] <chris_d> twm10101: Even so, the port was open during initial modeling.
[15-Jan-2008 17:50:48] <twm10101> ah ha!
[15-Jan-2008 17:50:51] <twm10101> hold on
[15-Jan-2008 17:51:33] <twm10101> re-modeling again, the portscan collector is not associated to /Devices/Servers/Linux
[15-Jan-2008 17:52:39] <rakATzenoss> jb_... email the service tag string -- I'm trying to find it in your snmpwalk output
[15-Jan-2008 17:52:44] <chris_d> twm10101: Where do I make that association?
[15-Jan-2008 17:52:46] <jb_> ah
[15-Jan-2008 17:54:11] <jb_> rak: done
[15-Jan-2008 17:54:26] <jb_> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.674.10892.1.300.10.1.11.1 = STRING: "6CF5M41"
[15-Jan-2008 17:54:55] <twm10101> Nevermind Chris, didn't work
[15-Jan-2008 17:55:08] <twm10101> I don't understand then how Zenoss discovers and adds IPServices
[15-Jan-2008 17:55:14] <twm10101> is it via the portscan collector or not?
[15-Jan-2008 17:55:53] <twm10101> well... one second, the "save" button has alluded me yet once more.
[15-Jan-2008 17:56:26] <twm10101> yep there we go, re-modeling taking a while now
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:00] <chris_d> Where does the port scan get associated with the class?
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:12] <twm10101> in the zProperties of the class
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:22] <twm10101> there is a collector plugins, a link to edit
[15-Jan-2008 17:57:34] <twm10101> before you waste your time, let my test finish
[15-Jan-2008 17:58:25] <twm10101> damn, SSH is still now showing up under IP services
[15-Jan-2008 17:58:29] <twm10101> *not
[15-Jan-2008 17:59:39] <chris_d> twm10101: I'm trying the same experiment.
[15-Jan-2008 17:59:40] <chris_d>
[15-Jan-2008 18:00:44] <twm10101> gonna hit the manual for a sec
[15-Jan-2008 18:01:16] <chris_d> So, there's an snmp.IpServiceMap and a portscan.IpServiceMap
[15-Jan-2008 18:02:17] <twm10101> bingo
hold on[15-Jan-2008 18:02:24] <twm10101> dont' do it yet
[15-Jan-2008 18:03:53] <rakATzenoss> jb_: do you see my messages in private chat?
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:07] <twm10101> the manual references something called zTransportPreference but that ain't there on my 2.1.1
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:33] <rakATzenoss> services are mapped both ways...
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:40] <rakATzenoss> by snmp and portscan.
[15-Jan-2008 18:04:58] <rakATzenoss> snmp being the "friendlier" way of discovering services.
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:13] <twm10101> Right, portscans are intrusive, you wouldn't want to do them all day
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:20] <rakATzenoss> that's right.
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:29] <rakATzenoss> makes netadmins jittery.
[15-Jan-2008 18:05:33] <twm10101> righto
[15-Jan-2008 18:06:04] <twm10101> Heres an example then: Right now my Zenoss server itself is running SSH, i remodel the device, but it does not show up under IP Services
[15-Jan-2008 18:06:27] <twm10101> under /Services/IP/Privileged/SSH I've set the zProperty for monitor for "true"
[15-Jan-2008 18:06:53] <twm10101> so anywhere its already associated, it is monitoring, but why wouldn't the re-model pick it up
[15-Jan-2008 18:07:14] <rakATzenoss> jb_ you there?
[15-Jan-2008 18:20:36] <twm10101> Hah... all the macworld blog website are getting slammed
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:06] <twm10101> even Macworld's webservers are slackin big time
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:24] <chris_d> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:28] <chris_d> Good coverage
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:32] <jb_> rakATzenoss: b ack now
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:34] <jb_> sorry
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:34] <adytum-bot> Title: MacRumors.com : Macworld San Francisco 2008 Keynote Live Coverage (at www.macrumorslive.com)
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:47] <rakATzenoss> ok jb_
[15-Jan-2008 18:21:50] <jb_> no, I am not seeing your msgs
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:02] <rakATzenoss> so the code is definitely in the DellDevice collector.
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:13] <rakATzenoss> and you're not seeing the service tag being grabbed.
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:15] <rakATzenoss> ?
[15-Jan-2008 18:22:41] <jb_> nope.. no service tag, hw make, hw model, os m ake
[15-Jan-2008 18:25:08] <twm10101> So where does that info come through? The O/S via OpenManage software? Or from the management NIC?
[15-Jan-2008 18:25:41] <jb_> the OS via OpenManage thru SNMP
[15-Jan-2008 18:26:00] <rakATzenoss> right.
[15-Jan-2008 18:26:11] <rakATzenoss> <the last option>
[15-Jan-2008 18:26:19] <jb_> let me try another box
[15-Jan-2008 18:29:15] <twm10101> gotcha
[15-Jan-2008 18:30:47] <rakATzenoss> jb_ -- have to step out for a bit.
[15-Jan-2008 18:30:52] <rakATzenoss> let me know what the other machines are doing.
[15-Jan-2008 18:30:56] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 18:31:11] <twm10101> I'm trying to figure out exactly what I need to load, as far OpenView/InsightManager goes, on each of these servers
[15-Jan-2008 18:31:28] <twm10101> is there a general "openview" package, or is it model specific?
[15-Jan-2008 18:31:46] <jb_> not sure about HP
[15-Jan-2008 18:32:00] <twm10101> i know for HP, at least in netware, there is one package
[15-Jan-2008 18:32:07] <twm10101> even for older Compaqs, its the same package
[15-Jan-2008 18:39:15] <jb_> hm, nothing still
[15-Jan-2008 18:40:00] <jb_> chownmein: here?
[15-Jan-2008 19:06:08] <phreekbird> twm10101, finished setting up (the major servers) with snmp ... so what do i need to do on zenoss to make it recongnize them? change the zproperties?
[15-Jan-2008 19:08:43] <twm10101> Did you give it credentials in zProperties?
[15-Jan-2008 19:08:52] <twm10101> in /Devices/Servers/Windows ?
[15-Jan-2008 19:09:05] <twm10101> i think they're near the bottom zWinUsername zWinPassword
[15-Jan-2008 19:09:51] <twm10101> im still developing my Zenoss box, i let it use the domain admin credentials, this isn't a good idea, but would work to show what zenoss can do, you should make a service account with certain rights granted to do this
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:10] <phreekbird> got a question about zenpacks
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:27] <phreekbird> they are rpms?
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:36] <phreekbird> how am i supposed to install them on debian then?
[15-Jan-2008 19:53:57] <rakATzenoss> install rpm?
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:06] <rakATzenoss> rpm is a debian package too!
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:09] <rakATzenoss>
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:12] <phreekbird> ok ok
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:24] <rakATzenoss> that's what I'd do...
[15-Jan-2008 19:54:41] <rakATzenoss> but, I understand some debian users don't want to use rpms.
[15-Jan-2008 19:55:41] <rakATzenoss> it's really up to the packager.
[15-Jan-2008 19:55:52] <rakATzenoss> You could also extract the contents of the rpm and install manually.
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:12] <rakATzenoss> anyone out there know if there's an rpm -> deb converter?
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:42] <phreekbird> yea
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:44] <phreekbird> its called alien
[15-Jan-2008 19:56:51] <phreekbird> it downst always work though
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:00] <rakATzenoss> yeah, that's what I'd suspect.
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:03] <phreekbird> something about folder structurs or something
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:04] <duncan> allright, I recompiled 2.1.2 on Debian and I'm not having the ZenHub service throw any more errors... however, my dashboard is empty with no options to add portals or anything..
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:16] <rakATzenoss> honestly tho, these zen packs are too complicated so it might work fine.
[15-Jan-2008 19:57:23] <rakATzenoss> what browser?
[15-Jan-2008 19:58:01] <rakATzenoss> duncan, you reviewed zenbuild.log?
[15-Jan-2008 19:58:08] <rakATzenoss> everything looks good in there right?
[15-Jan-2008 20:00:08] <duncan> rakATzenoss: looks fine yea
[15-Jan-2008 20:04:05] <duncan> rakATzenoss: looks fine, there is the occasional pointer target type error.. but I used the same dev environment to build a working dashboard on 2.1.7
[15-Jan-2008 20:07:23] <twm10101> I wonder now. Exactly which right do I grant to allow a user account to access WMI over the network
[15-Jan-2008 20:08:41] <duncan> I'm tailing the log files as well and when I access the page I can see the HTTP GET commands but no errors.. it's just a blank page for the dashboard =(
[15-Jan-2008 20:10:09] <duncan> chaching! cleared the browser cash..
[15-Jan-2008 20:10:28] <johns55> does anyone know if there is a way to integrate cacti into zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 20:10:42] <johns55> it'll be nice to monitor the bandwidth and data usage of a machine
[15-Jan-2008 20:11:09] <twm10101> johns: zenoss does this
[15-Jan-2008 20:11:17] <twm10101> go to the OS tab, and click on one of your network interfaces
[15-Jan-2008 20:11:22] <twm10101>
[15-Jan-2008 20:12:13] <johns55> i dont see a graph
[15-Jan-2008 20:12:28] <johns55> or any data
[15-Jan-2008 20:13:53] <twm10101> if SNMP is working it should work, it obviously modeled the interface, i can't tell you why its not trending it
[15-Jan-2008 20:15:09] <johns55> ahh ic it now, i clicked on the IP address instead of the eth0 name
[15-Jan-2008 20:15:22] <twm10101> there you go
[15-Jan-2008 20:16:07] <twm10101> hey RAK: you were a windows guy, heres a GPO question for ya, if you set a user right assignment in GPO to allow a right to a certain user, does it replace the local entry when loaded on the machine, or append it?
[15-Jan-2008 20:16:37] <jb_> rakAT: so do you know where I can begin troubleshooting?
[15-Jan-2008 20:17:01] <cpufreak> rakATzenoss: do you publish a schema, or DTD, or some form of specification for the object.xml used in zenpacks?
[15-Jan-2008 20:17:29] <twm10101> like say the local policy says "Administrators" can "Profile system performance", but in a GPO I have specified a domain user, does it then combine those to allow both .\Administrators and DOMAIN\user to do so?
[15-Jan-2008 20:18:54] <rakATzenoss> twm10101: replace
[15-Jan-2008 20:19:16] <rakATzenoss> what you find jb_?
[15-Jan-2008 20:19:21] <rakATzenoss> other machines doing the same thing?
[15-Jan-2008 20:20:07] <rakATzenoss> ah wait -- I see what you're asking twm10101.
[15-Jan-2008 20:20:17] <rakATzenoss> replaces.
[15-Jan-2008 20:23:25] <duncan> hmm, what would cause the cpu thresholds to go off if the CPU load is 0
[15-Jan-2008 20:24:47] <duncan> I'm getting a flood of events because of about 50 idle servers
[15-Jan-2008 20:26:05] <cpufreak> do you have low cpu utilization thresholds set... i.e. alert on idle by any chance?
[15-Jan-2008 20:27:03] <johns55> what does admin level mean? is 1 administrator?
[15-Jan-2008 20:28:17] <twm10101> makes sense now...
[15-Jan-2008 20:28:38] <twm10101> So I'm wondering, it might be a really good idea to get some official instructions on GP changes needed for the Zenoss winuser
[15-Jan-2008 20:29:25] <twm10101> i wonder if they already have anything for that?
[15-Jan-2008 20:32:38] <johns55> would it be possible to create a really restricted account for 1 of my clients to log in to zenoss to view his system graphs and not anyone elses systems? or is that too risky?
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:01] <twm10101> Johns, enterprise version only
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:04] <twm10101> pretty sure
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:20] <twm10101> ah ha, found the answer in a post on the forum!
[15-Jan-2008 20:34:21] <twm10101> :-D
[15-Jan-2008 20:37:53] <duncan> where do I adjust the cpu utilization thresholds.. I've been poking around for 5 minutes with no luck!
[15-Jan-2008 20:38:42] <twm10101> duncan: depends on the device class you are in
[15-Jan-2008 20:38:59] <twm10101> but its going to be under templates
[15-Jan-2008 20:39:09] <twm10101> Here's the forum post I'm looking at: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4193
[15-Jan-2008 20:39:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Another reason to NOT make zWinUser a Domain Admin (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2008 20:40:28] <duncan> is it possible to have zenoss send out xmpp notifications for events?
[15-Jan-2008 20:41:57] <twm10101> no idea
[15-Jan-2008 20:48:15] <rakATzenoss> duncan -- yes.
[15-Jan-2008 20:49:30] <rakATzenoss> bleh -- sorry duncan -- I misread -- zenoss supports smpp.
[15-Jan-2008 20:49:44] <rakATzenoss> I imagine getting it to support wouldn't require too much work tho,
[15-Jan-2008 20:49:53] <rakATzenoss> good idea for a zenpack!
[15-Jan-2008 20:50:06] <rakATzenoss> tie zenoss into your jabber infrastructure.
[15-Jan-2008 20:55:40] <cpufreak> rakATzenoss: um, any clue r.e. spec/DTD for the zenpack xml?
[15-Jan-2008 20:56:09] <rakATzenoss> I think it's just well-formed, but I'll check. please hold.
[15-Jan-2008 20:56:15] <cpufreak> or perhaps a way pre-import of validating it?
[15-Jan-2008 20:56:49] <cpufreak> I had to stop zope into debug the other day to clear out a broken zenpack.. as zenpack --remove + zenpack --list were failing
[15-Jan-2008 20:57:05] <rakATzenoss> yikes.
[15-Jan-2008 20:57:09] <rakATzenoss> not cool.
[15-Jan-2008 20:57:58] <johns55> man #zenoss is flying comparing to the crawl for the past few days =)
[15-Jan-2008 20:59:52] <cpufreak> I didn't so much mind, as its pretty straight forward to do it
[15-Jan-2008 21:00:26] <rakATzenoss> cpufreak: nope --I'm adding a proposal for it.
[15-Jan-2008 21:00:32] <rakATzenoss> good catch -- thanks.
[15-Jan-2008 21:00:49] <rakATzenoss> We should also fix the problem of removing a broken zenpack.
[15-Jan-2008 21:01:13] <rakATzenoss> jb_ still here?
[15-Jan-2008 21:02:24] <cpufreak> http://nurburgr.ing.me.uk/stuff/zenpackrm.txt is what I did to remove it.
[15-Jan-2008 21:02:38] <cpufreak> then removed the directory from the filesystem
[15-Jan-2008 21:02:47] <rakATzenoss> ah ok -- right.
[15-Jan-2008 21:03:46] <cpufreak> I'll dig up the errors I got prior using the zenpck utils quickly for you too
[15-Jan-2008 21:03:48] <cpufreak> if its anyhelp
[15-Jan-2008 21:04:14] <rakATzenoss> absolutely.
[15-Jan-2008 21:06:56] <cpufreak> http://nurburgr.ing.me.uk/stuff/zenpackls.txt
[15-Jan-2008 21:07:01] <cpufreak> is what a zenpack --list did
[15-Jan-2008 21:09:05] <Ron_DP> I have a question about Zenoss 2.1.2 installed on a Suse 10.3 box. Having a problem with binding a template to an interface. want to use the ethernetCsmacd_64 template on cisco interfaces to fix the gaps in my graphs as explained in the must-read thread I found. anyone have any ideas for me?
[15-Jan-2008 21:09:44] <Ron_DP> when I attempt to bind it the webbrowser freezes and nothing happens
[15-Jan-2008 21:10:02] <Ron_DP> using firefox latest
[15-Jan-2008 21:10:46] <cluther> Ron_DP: You can't bind templates to interfaces. They automatically use any template that has the same name as their "type"
[15-Jan-2008 21:10:56] <cluther> Ron_DP: This is why the template is called ethernetCsmacd.
[15-Jan-2008 21:11:12] <cluther> Ron_DP: If you want to use the _64 version simply copy it into the class for which this is appropriate and rename it to ethernetCsmacd
[15-Jan-2008 21:12:31] <Ron_DP> Ok thanks. looking at that. yes I am very new to the product and havent finished reading every single thing about it.
[15-Jan-2008 21:17:04] <Ron_DP> SWEET! thank you. that worked.
[15-Jan-2008 21:18:16] <Ron_DP> I read about changing the RRD polling interval from 5 minutes to 1 minute as well to further help with the problem. might anyone have a specific link to more information about how to go about this?
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:08] <jb_> rakATzenoss: sorry, im back!
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:23] <rakATzenoss> any luck?
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:26] <rakATzenoss> same result?
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:26] <jb_> nope
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:31] <jb_> tried a 2650, 1750 and a 2950
[15-Jan-2008 21:25:39] <rakATzenoss> and you've upgraded to 2.1.2 Core correct?
[15-Jan-2008 21:26:31] <rakATzenoss> I pulled the source for the DellDeviceMap -- it's definitely config'ed for the proper IOD.
[15-Jan-2008 21:26:32] <rakATzenoss> OID.
[15-Jan-2008 21:27:26] <jb_> yes
[15-Jan-2008 21:27:43] <jb_> 2.1.2
[15-Jan-2008 21:28:30] <jb_> is there anyway I can debug?
[15-Jan-2008 21:31:28] <twm10101> cluther: thankyouthankyouthankyou
[15-Jan-2008 21:32:30] <rakATzenoss> hmm.
[15-Jan-2008 21:32:34] <rakATzenoss> perhaps.
[15-Jan-2008 21:33:17] <rakATzenoss> try running zenperfsnmp -v10 -d deviceiporname run
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:20] <cluther> Ron_DP: Look at the Edit tab of your performance monitor under Monitors
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:31] <jb_> ok hm
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:32] <cluther> Ron_DP: That allows you to set your SNMP cycle time.
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:57] <cluther> Ron_DP: Bear in mind that you'll have to delete any previously created .rrd files out of $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/... so they can be recreated with appropriate step and heartbeat values.
[15-Jan-2008 21:34:58] <Ron_DP> cluther: Thanks.. sorry for the noobish questions.
[15-Jan-2008 21:35:29] <Ron_DP> they all just deleted anyways when I moved the new template in place so thats not a concern. thank you again!
[15-Jan-2008 21:35:47] <Ron_DP> I will go delete the rrd files as well.
[15-Jan-2008 21:39:05] <jb_> hm, no errors
[15-Jan-2008 21:40:27] <jb_> this is odd
[15-Jan-2008 21:41:19] <rakATzenoss> nothing at all?
[15-Jan-2008 21:41:23] <rakATzenoss> let's see that output.
[15-Jan-2008 21:41:31] <rakATzenoss> email it to me.
[15-Jan-2008 21:51:41] <jb_> sec
[15-Jan-2008 21:53:47] <jb_> Ok, sent.
[15-Jan-2008 21:56:17] <rakATzenoss> jb_, lets try the same again, only this time I'll tell you the RIGHT command to run -- sorry about that...
[15-Jan-2008 21:56:34] <rakATzenoss> run zenmodel -v10 -d <hostname> run
[15-Jan-2008 21:56:41] <rakATzenoss> send me that output.
[15-Jan-2008 22:00:15] <jb_> hah ok
[15-Jan-2008 22:00:49] <jb_> zenmodeler?
[15-Jan-2008 22:01:48] <jb_> Sent..
[15-Jan-2008 22:03:19] <jb_> well, now my CPU's aren't showing up!
[15-Jan-2008 22:04:26] <rakATzenoss> interesting.
[15-Jan-2008 22:04:33] <rakATzenoss> and your service tag isn't in there.
[15-Jan-2008 22:05:39] <rakATzenoss> DellDeviceMap is not getting called.
[15-Jan-2008 22:06:55] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 22:07:08] <jb_> that should be automatic?
[15-Jan-2008 22:07:16] <rakATzenoss> so the question becomes... what makes zenoss call DellDeviceMap.
[15-Jan-2008 22:07:22] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:19] <rakATzenoss> if you search, you'll see DellCPUMap and DellPCIMap..
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:24] <rakATzenoss> but no DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:40] <rakATzenoss> ah wait...
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:42] <rakATzenoss> there it is...
[15-Jan-2008 22:08:43] <rakATzenoss> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:condition failed zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap on BOX.DOMAIN.COM
[15-Jan-2008 22:09:32] <rakATzenoss> let's see what the condition is...
[15-Jan-2008 22:09:32] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 22:16:41] <rakATzenoss> ok.
[15-Jan-2008 22:16:47] <rakATzenoss> jb_ we have a solution for you.
[15-Jan-2008 22:17:00] <rakATzenoss> Install the DellMonitor zenpack.
[15-Jan-2008 22:17:10] <rakATzenoss> it replaces the DellDeviceMap that shipped with zenoss 2.1.2.
[15-Jan-2008 22:17:22] <duncan> hmm I keep getting heartbeat failures for a node that I deleted!
[15-Jan-2008 22:18:21] <duncan> I changed the name of the server zenoss is installed and now it's generating alerts for heartbeats of zenoss services using the old hostname... is this fixable? when I click on the node in the alert it takes me to a blank page
[15-Jan-2008 22:18:47] <rakATzenoss> The shipped DellDeviceMap has a bug that you're seeing.
[15-Jan-2008 22:20:49] <rakATzenoss> duncan -- go to Event Manager, click the menu dropdown and select "Clear all Heartbeats."
[15-Jan-2008 22:22:34] <duncan> rakATzenoss: thanks
[15-Jan-2008 22:25:22] <jb_> rakATzenoss: will try that, thanks!
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:50] <jb_> rakATzenoss: hm, I'm not sure its going to install properly because of existing objects..
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:50] <jb_> WARNING:zen.AddToPack:Object PowerEdge 1850 already exists skipping
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:50] <jb_> WARNING:zen.AddToPack:Object PowerEdge 1855 already exists skipping
[15-Jan-2008 22:44:51] <jb_> etc
[15-Jan-2008 22:45:58] <jb_> can we force this?
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:19] <rakATzenoss> no biggie...
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:30] <rakATzenoss> these are just products that the zenpack is trying to re-add..
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:52] <jb_> ok lets try to removdel
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:53] <rakATzenoss> it's cool -- just remodel a server once the zenpack is installed
[15-Jan-2008 22:46:53] <jb_> remodel
[15-Jan-2008 22:47:24] <jb_> hm, nothing
[15-Jan-2008 22:47:40] <jb_> plugins: zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.CpuMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap
[15-Jan-2008 22:48:31] <jb_> let me check the log
[15-Jan-2008 22:50:27] <jb_> ok, same error (condition failed)..
[15-Jan-2008 22:50:32] <jb_> I emailed the log if you want to check it
[15-Jan-2008 22:50:48] <jb_> im afraid that the zenpack didn't install successfully
[15-Jan-2008 22:53:39] <jb_> yeah.. no DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 22:56:39] <jb_> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:condition failed DellDeviceMap on BOX.DOMAIN.COM
[15-Jan-2008 23:01:15] <rakATzenoss> let's see.
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:21] <rakATzenoss> jb_ try restarting the zenmodeler daemon.
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:31] <rakATzenoss> do this as the zenoss user.
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:38] <jb_> ok sec
[15-Jan-2008 23:11:47] <jb_> remodel?
[15-Jan-2008 23:12:40] <rakATzenoss> yes.
[15-Jan-2008 23:12:41] <jb_> DEBUG:zen.ZenModeler:condition failed zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap
[15-Jan-2008 23:12:52] <jb_> hm
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:24] <rakATzenoss> is it possible to restart zenoss?
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:45] <rakATzenoss> or will that wreak havoc in your environment?
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:49] <jb_> nope
[15-Jan-2008 23:13:50] <jb_> sec
[15-Jan-2008 23:15:13] <jb_> hrm, same error
[15-Jan-2008 23:18:26] <rakATzenoss> ok, let's go to the zProperties for one of these Dell devices.
[15-Jan-2008 23:18:36] <rakATzenoss> find the property zCollectorPlugins
[15-Jan-2008 23:18:39] <rakATzenoss> click "edit"
[15-Jan-2008 23:19:18] <rakATzenoss> You should see a Collector called "DellDeviceMap" -- that's the name of the device map installed with the zenpack.
[15-Jan-2008 23:19:38] <rakATzenoss> the one that is broken is called "zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap"
[15-Jan-2008 23:20:35] <rakATzenoss> if you see both, remove the broken collector.
[15-Jan-2008 23:20:55] <jb_> I see three DellDeviceMap's
[15-Jan-2008 23:21:44] <jb_> I'm going to delete them all, and reinstall the zenpack
[15-Jan-2008 23:22:27] <rakATzenoss> wait a sec.
[15-Jan-2008 23:22:51] <rakATzenoss> delete them and redrag from the "Add Fields" list...
[15-Jan-2008 23:22:55] <jb_> done
[15-Jan-2008 23:23:03] <rakATzenoss> now save and remodel.
[15-Jan-2008 23:23:51] <jb_> argh, same~!
[15-Jan-2008 23:24:46] <jb_> hm, and this one definetely works?
[15-Jan-2008 23:25:08] <rakATzenoss> there is only one in the Add Fields list right?
[15-Jan-2008 23:25:20] <jb_> yeah
[15-Jan-2008 23:25:52] <rakATzenoss> then there's also zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap.
[15-Jan-2008 23:26:05] <rakATzenoss> just to be sure you have the right code,
[15-Jan-2008 23:26:50] <jb_> yep, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap is not installed..
[15-Jan-2008 23:26:56] <jb_> so it appears in the Add Fields box
[15-Jan-2008 23:27:52] <rakATzenoss> send me $ZENHOME/zenpacks/DellMonitor/modeler/plugins/DellDeviceMap.py
[15-Jan-2008 23:28:28] <jb_> "zenpacks" does not exist
[15-Jan-2008 23:28:37] <jb_> its in Products
[15-Jan-2008 23:29:04] <jb_> in /opt/zenoss/Products/DellMonitor/modeler/plugins$
[15-Jan-2008 23:29:46] <jb_> sent
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:24] <rakATzenoss> is this 2.1.2 enterprise or core?
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:26] <rakATzenoss> core right
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:26] <rakATzenoss> ?
[15-Jan-2008 23:30:34] <jb_> core
[15-Jan-2008 23:31:17] <rakATzenoss> ok -- send me that file.
[15-Jan-2008 23:31:29] <jb_> sent
[15-Jan-2008 23:31:56] <rakATzenoss> ok -- that file has the bug.
[15-Jan-2008 23:32:25] <jb_> the # ?
[15-Jan-2008 23:33:37] <rakATzenoss> ok. and the rpm you installed was DellMonitor-zenoss--1.0-el5-i686.zip from the /packs folder right?
[15-Jan-2008 23:34:44] <jb_> DellMonitor-zenoss-2.1.0-1.0-el5-i686.zip
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:10] <jb_> you dont think that it was skipped because it already existed?
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:15] <jb_> as the output of the zenpack install said?
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:17] <rakATzenoss> no.
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:20] <jb_> k
[15-Jan-2008 23:35:43] <jb_> let me manually unzip and copy it over?
[15-Jan-2008 23:37:19] <jb_> ok the DellDeviceMap.py is exactly the same in that archive
[15-Jan-2008 23:37:56] <rakATzenoss> Is it possible you never installed the zenpack RPM?
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:17] <jb_> i just manually unzipped the zenpack
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:17] <rakATzenoss> it is separate and not included with the core rpm.
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:27] <jb_> (its a zip, not an rpm)
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:31] <rakATzenoss> it's a separately downloaded rpm...
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:33] <jb_> and the file is exactly the same
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:37] <rakATzenoss> no -- there's a zenpack rpm for ALL the zenpacks.
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:50] <rakATzenoss> it doesn't look like your zenpacks were updated.
[15-Jan-2008 23:38:57] <jb_> ah, I downloaded it from http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/dellmonitor
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:00] <jb_> sec
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:11] <rakATzenoss> you updated the zenoss core, but not the zenpack release.
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - DellMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:38] <jb_> ok installing RPM now
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:51] <rakATzenoss> cool.
[15-Jan-2008 23:39:53] <rakATzenoss> you found it.
[15-Jan-2008 23:45:50] <rakATzenoss> how' it going/
[15-Jan-2008 23:45:50] <rakATzenoss> ?
[15-Jan-2008 23:46:45] <rakATzenoss> wait -- I think I see the root of these evils.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:00] <rakATzenoss> I'm going to send you a zenpack file to install.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:35] <rakATzenoss> go ahead and let the rpm instsall complete.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:40] <rakATzenoss> and test... that might do ti.
[15-Jan-2008 23:47:55] <rakATzenoss> jb_ did you pull the file from http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/?
[15-Jan-2008 23:48:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads (at dev.zenoss.org)
[15-Jan-2008 23:48:35] <rakATzenoss> I think you'll want: zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.2-0.el5.i386.rpm
[15-Jan-2008 23:48:53] <rakATzenoss> or zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.1.2-0.el5.x86_64.rpm depending on architecture of course.
[15-Jan-2008 23:50:05] <rakATzenoss> still there jb_?
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[16-Jan-2008 01:35:45] <jb_> raKatzenoss: thanks! it works now
[16-Jan-2008 01:36:30] <jb_> hrm, but my CPU's are not showing up under HW any more
[16-Jan-2008 01:38:29] <jb_> with zenoss.snmp.DellCPU it does though, so I will just use that
[16-Jan-2008 01:52:54] <jb_> where can I find a list of the attributes for each object?.. like to use setHWProductKey, etc in a plugin?
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[16-Jan-2008 13:19:53] <phreekbird> uhg
[16-Jan-2008 13:19:57] <phreekbird> mornin yall
[16-Jan-2008 14:54:30] <rfasenmyer> hello, i'm having an issue with zenoss and was hoping someone in here could help me
[16-Jan-2008 14:55:21] <rfasenmyer> i'm running zenoss in a virtual machine and after it runs for about a day the web interface is unusable and the command line respone on the host machine is very slow.
[16-Jan-2008 14:58:44] <klinstifen> i don't know - i don't use the vm version
[16-Jan-2008 14:58:47] <klinstifen> did you check the forums?
[16-Jan-2008 14:59:43] <rfasenmyer> i did not check the forums, i'll take a look at them now
[16-Jan-2008 14:59:44] <rfasenmyer> thanks
[16-Jan-2008 15:29:15] <klinstifen> when changing the line thickness for a graph nothing happens
[16-Jan-2008 15:29:20] <klinstifen> can anyone else confirm this
[16-Jan-2008 15:29:37] <klinstifen> changing it from 1 to 5 or even 50 does nothing...it still looks like a skinny line
[16-Jan-2008 15:32:50] <klinstifen> anyone know how to create a threshold that is a divisor of two datapoints?
[16-Jan-2008 15:33:09] <rfasenmyer> no luck in the forums
[16-Jan-2008 15:39:41] <klinstifen> rfasenmyer: i think i remember reading something about expanding disk space within the vm...not sure if it was because things were slowing down or if disk space was running out
[16-Jan-2008 15:40:35] <rfasenmyer> i beleive the vm is around 5 gb in size. is that not enough space?
[16-Jan-2008 15:40:58] <rfasenmyer> i'm only monitering 51 discovered devices
[16-Jan-2008 15:42:02] <rfasenmyer> i just checked the rpath and it says the rootfs size is 5.1 G and only 1.3G is currently used
[16-Jan-2008 15:43:47] <klinstifen> hmm well i guess that isn't it : )
[16-Jan-2008 15:48:06] <klinstifen> anyone know how to create a threshold that is a quotient of two datapoints
[16-Jan-2008 15:48:08] <klinstifen> ?
[16-Jan-2008 15:48:39] <klinstifen> looks like thresholds can't have math applied to them... is there a way to create a custom threshold?
[16-Jan-2008 15:52:30] <BrixWork> I believe ver 2.1.1 VM was only 1gb in size, the 2.1.2 vm is 5gb. I was having an issue with the 2.1.1 VM and disk space.
[16-Jan-2008 15:53:54] <rfasenmyer> i'm running 2.1.2-2-1
[16-Jan-2008 15:57:55] <rfasenmyer> is there some kind of log file i can referr to in zenoss that may let me know what is causing this?
[16-Jan-2008 16:04:17] <rfasenmyer> here is another question. where does the zenoss vm get its host name from. today the host name is a name of one of our users in the building.
[16-Jan-2008 16:08:23] <rfasenmyer> i checked the appliance agent and see that DHCP gave the computer it's name. i still don't understand how it arbitrarily picks a name. i have since made the setting manual so this should not be a problem any more
[16-Jan-2008 16:18:52] <jb_> where can I find a list of the attributes for each object?.. like to use setHWProductKey, etc in a plugin?
[16-Jan-2008 16:19:33] <jb_> i want to use a zenpack to set the "HW Make/HW Model"
[16-Jan-2008 16:19:38] <jb_> via an OID
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[16-Jan-2008 16:45:43] <pablo26> hi all
[16-Jan-2008 16:46:00] <rfasenmyer> hi
[16-Jan-2008 16:46:48] <pablo26> i have zenoss installed and its working pretty good, but i'm using httpMonitor zenpack and its sending out a lot of fake alerts (time outs) how can i make this more eficient
[16-Jan-2008 16:47:36] <pablo26> in nagios, if there was a failure it re schedule 3 more checks in less time and if all of them fails it will send an alert
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[16-Jan-2008 18:13:32] <klinstifen> can anyone confirm whether or not line width, in the graphs, works for them
[16-Jan-2008 18:13:43] <klinstifen> it does not work for me...the line always appears with a width of 1
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[16-Jan-2008 19:02:15] <jb_> anyone here using DNSMonitor?
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[16-Jan-2008 19:45:45] <johns55> im trying to model a distribution switch the cisco 6509 and getting a timeout when trying to model
[16-Jan-2008 19:45:47] <johns55> any ideas?
[16-Jan-2008 19:48:32] <johns55> WARNING zen.ZenModeler client 6509 timeout
[16-Jan-2008 20:00:22] <duncan> what would cause an event like this -- vmnic0 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1331.91 -- a misconfigured OID? shouldn't the max perc be 100?
[16-Jan-2008 20:01:25] <johns55> your nic is using 75% of its network bandwidth load
[16-Jan-2008 20:01:48] <johns55> usually people would want 75% so they can react to this before it gets out of hands
[16-Jan-2008 20:01:58] <johns55> 75% is huge
[16-Jan-2008 20:02:36] <duncan> right, I agree with the philosophy behind the threshold.. but why would it be reporting 1331.91% utilization?
[16-Jan-2008 20:04:02] <duncan> in fact, when I look at the interfaces through the device page, they list as ip address 0.0.0.0/0 -- I guess I can just unmonitor them and ignore the fact it's reporting incorrectly
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:00] <klinstifen> i think it's reporting the speed
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:03] <klinstifen> bits/sec
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:09] <klinstifen> duncan: not the percent
[16-Jan-2008 20:07:33] <klinstifen> anyone using the mysql zenpack?
[16-Jan-2008 20:21:52] <johns55> duncan: r u using gigabit?
[16-Jan-2008 20:22:00] <johns55> i might think your ethernet is 100/10
[16-Jan-2008 20:22:21] <johns55> yes im using it
[16-Jan-2008 20:24:09] <duncan> speed is listed as unknown, and the fact is says the interface is vmnic makes me think it's just vmware
[16-Jan-2008 20:50:28] <Immotep> Hello everyone, would someone help me (newbie) with a few problems?
[16-Jan-2008 20:51:06] <klinstifen> lmotep:i'm game
[16-Jan-2008 20:52:19] <Immotep> my biggest problem is that somehow zenoss does not match the ips it discovers with devices, so i cannot see the machines on network map
[16-Jan-2008 20:52:46] <Immotep> it discovers all the ips but then it says device "none"
[16-Jan-2008 20:53:32] <klinstifen> have you added any devices?
[16-Jan-2008 20:54:03] <Immotep> yes ive added 4 devices. plus there is one which zenoss detected automatically
[16-Jan-2008 20:54:58] <Immotep> example: i have 1 machine (godzilla, 192.168.111.1) - i see the ip in the network list. and i have the (manually added) device in the device list. but they are not matched
[16-Jan-2008 20:57:11] <Immotep> there is a hint in the faq concerning this, which i tried. outcome was that the ips are now in the device list. but they are still in the network list with device "none" and dont show up on network map
[16-Jan-2008 20:57:51] <Immotep> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#HowdoIloadalltheIPaddressesinanetworkasdevices <- this
[16-Jan-2008 20:58:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - FAQ (English) - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Jan-2008 21:03:10] <klinstifen> what ip does godzilla have in zenoss?
[16-Jan-2008 21:04:48] <Immotep> in device list the entries are - device id: Godzilla, IP: 192.168.111.1, Class:/Server/Linux ....
[16-Jan-2008 21:05:55] <klinstifen> when you go to network map what device or network is entered in the text box?
[16-Jan-2008 21:06:32] <Immotep> the default? always 192.168.1.0 (that would have been my next question, how to change that default
)[16-Jan-2008 21:07:10] <klinstifen> so if you manually type in 192.168.111.0
[16-Jan-2008 21:07:15] <klinstifen> does your network map display?
[16-Jan-2008 21:07:52] <Immotep> then i see the network cloud and one device (the only one that had snp activated by default - a kyocera printer)
[16-Jan-2008 21:08:09] <Immotep> snmp that is
[16-Jan-2008 21:13:09] <klinstifen> when you click on "networks" on the left-hand side
[16-Jan-2008 21:13:12] <klinstifen> what do you see?
[16-Jan-2008 21:13:54] <Immotep> i see the list of my 2 added networks, one of which is "192.168.111.0/24"
[16-Jan-2008 21:14:21] <klinstifen> did you add those manually?
[16-Jan-2008 21:14:34] <Immotep> yes
[16-Jan-2008 21:16:57] <klinstifen> hmmm
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:03] <klinstifen> i would delete both of them and your devices
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:09] <klinstifen> and then manually add a device
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:31] <klinstifen> the devices added thereafter should be added to the same network
[16-Jan-2008 21:17:55] <klinstifen> i haven't added any network's manually...they've all been added by zenoss when i add a device
[16-Jan-2008 21:19:19] <Immotep> ah ok. i will try that
[16-Jan-2008 21:30:16] <Immotep> hmm might take some time. deleting the devices made zenoss stop responding and load is now at 32
[16-Jan-2008 21:33:03] <klinstifen> hmmm
[16-Jan-2008 21:53:10] <Immotep> ok just restartet zenoss as it was hanging. manually added a device with ID 192.168.111.1 now but network list is still empty
[16-Jan-2008 22:07:23] <MoreDakka> Can anyone give me an idea on where I can find how to setup a remote monitor for zenoss? I can't seem to find it :-/
[16-Jan-2008 22:22:39] <jb_> anyone here using DNSMonitor?
[16-Jan-2008 23:25:32] <totoro001> Hey guys, not to be a bother but I just finished installing zenoss, and after it's installed and all started up, how do I begin managing it? I accessed the web portal by going to it's ip on port 8080, but it's asking me for a u/p which i can't find listed anywhere in the documentation.
[16-Jan-2008 23:27:09] <totoro001> Are there some sql scripts I have to run before this is useful ooorrr..
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:16] <jb_> its admin/zenoss
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:19] <totoro001> thanks
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:20] <jb_> and its in the docs
[16-Jan-2008 23:35:29] <totoro001> i've been digging around the admin guide for an hour x.x
[16-Jan-2008 23:39:43] <totoro001> i fail apparently
[17-Jan-2008 00:00:08] <jief-> hello. we're deploying zen 2.1.2 at work these days. And we get a lot of problems with misdetected interface speeds and false alerts because of them. What would be the best way of changing them manually?
[17-Jan-2008 00:00:19] <jief-> I know we get a lot of issues because of bugs in net-snmp
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[17-Jan-2008 00:00:28] <jief-> but for Cisco devices, we have issues only with some devices
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[17-Jan-2008 01:00:59] <johns55> anyone know how to change the time out of the modeler?
[17-Jan-2008 01:01:11] <johns55> i have a system with a lot of info and it would time out before it finishes
[17-Jan-2008 01:58:31] <eurowerke> anyone around?
[17-Jan-2008 02:00:09] <johns55> wzp my man?
[17-Jan-2008 02:03:30] <eurowerke> I changed the IP of my zenoss server
[17-Jan-2008 02:03:40] <eurowerke> now getting zenping errors saying the server is down
[17-Jan-2008 02:03:44] <eurowerke> with the old IP
[17-Jan-2008 02:04:18] <eurowerke> well, doesn't show component as zenping
[17-Jan-2008 02:04:27] <eurowerke> but eventClass /Status/Ping
[17-Jan-2008 03:07:49] <jb_> anyone know how to diagnose graphs that dont show up?
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[17-Jan-2008 14:14:32] <klinstifen> has anyone upgraded to 2.1.7?
[17-Jan-2008 14:43:29] <MuseHome> Where does zenoss get/store syslog messages from remote devices?
[17-Jan-2008 14:46:33] <MuseHome> I've looked in /var/log/ but don't see a syslog message that zenoss has in the gui.
[17-Jan-2008 15:17:42] <pvoccio> anyone using the reportmail function to send reports?
[17-Jan-2008 15:21:47] <pvoccio> I'm having an minor issue with the stupid thing.
[17-Jan-2008 15:21:48] <pvoccio> http://pastebin.com/m95e6924
[17-Jan-2008 15:22:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[17-Jan-2008 15:35:14] <twm10101>
[17-Jan-2008 15:38:39] <klinstifen> anyone using 2.1.7?
[17-Jan-2008 15:42:38] <klinstifen> i am getting an error about undefined symbol PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[17-Jan-2008 15:42:50] <klinstifen> when trying to start zopectl and zeoctl
[17-Jan-2008 15:42:55] <klinstifen> after upgrading to 2.1.7
[17-Jan-2008 15:49:13] <hotgrits> musehome: syslog goes into the MySQL events database
[17-Jan-2008 15:50:23] <twm10101> klinstifen: maybe it is still using the system python instead of the version that now comes with Zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 15:51:03] <klinstifen> twm: yeah i think you are right...just found a post in the forum that says that and how to fix it
[17-Jan-2008 15:51:28] <twm10101> I'm stuck on 2.1.1 right now, my appliance refuses to update to 2.1.2
[17-Jan-2008 15:53:45] <klinstifen> i skipped 2.1.2
[17-Jan-2008 15:53:55] <klinstifen> tried to upgrade to that and switch os's at the same time
[17-Jan-2008 15:53:57] <klinstifen> didn't work out
[17-Jan-2008 15:54:00] <klinstifen> waste of a week
[17-Jan-2008 15:54:46] <pvoccio> no reportmail users, eh?
[17-Jan-2008 16:06:07] <klinstifen> pvo: sorry don't know what that error is
[17-Jan-2008 16:06:18] <klinstifen> looks like something to do with python from the searches i've run
[17-Jan-2008 16:22:29] <klinstifen> moredakka: you here?
[17-Jan-2008 16:24:23] <klinstifen> anyone working with 2.1.? the watchdog keeps killing zentrap and zensyslog
[17-Jan-2008 16:56:28] <klinstifen> anyone know why the zenoss issues portlet would say something is down when the settings - daemon screen shows that it is up?
[17-Jan-2008 16:58:20] <chowmeined> immature code?
[17-Jan-2008 17:01:54] <klinstifen> : )
[17-Jan-2008 17:01:56] <klinstifen> could be
[17-Jan-2008 17:07:21] <eurowerke> those sort of issues are what I think should be detected quite easily with a decent test set
[17-Jan-2008 17:08:13] <klinstifen> what's the longest your zenoss box has gone without needing a zenoss restart of whole server/computer restart?
[17-Jan-2008 17:11:45] <eurowerke> well
[17-Jan-2008 17:11:59] <eurowerke> I restart mine sometimes just to see if it will fix something
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:04] <eurowerke> but i could keep it running
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:27] <eurowerke> probably a month or so I'd guesstimate
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:43] <klinstifen> hmm
[17-Jan-2008 17:12:56] <eurowerke> 2.1.2
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:10] <klinstifen> i am lucky of i can go a week without zenperfsnmp dieing
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:15] <eurowerke> dang
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:19] <eurowerke> same ver>
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:20] <eurowerke> ?
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:29] <eurowerke> i just ran into a problem
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:29] <klinstifen> was on 2.1.1 and just now updated to 2.17
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:32] <eurowerke> ahh
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:45] <eurowerke> i have it running on linux
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:50] <eurowerke> on ms virtual server
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:52] <klinstifen> what flavor?
[17-Jan-2008 17:13:55] <eurowerke> ubuntu
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:01] <klinstifen> version?
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:03] <eurowerke> 7 I think
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:09] <klinstifen> i am running ubuntu 7 too
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:12] <klinstifen> weird
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:32] <eurowerke> we just teamed the nics and created a trunk on the switch
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:51] <eurowerke> and now the linux guest can't snmpwalk the switches consistently anymore
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:55] <eurowerke> I can ping them fine usually
[17-Jan-2008 17:14:59] <eurowerke> sometimes not though
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:09] <eurowerke> but what's weird
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:15] <eurowerke> is that when I can snmpwalk on the command line
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:21] <eurowerke> I can also through zenoss command on the device
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:32] <eurowerke> but the monitors still say snmp is down
[17-Jan-2008 17:15:33] <eurowerke> bleh
[17-Jan-2008 17:16:36] <klinstifen> that is odd
[17-Jan-2008 17:17:14] <creining> i upgraded zenoss from 1.1.1 to 2.1.2 via RPM on rh5 and when i go to :8080 i get a zenoss site error msg, any ideas on how to troubleshoot
[17-Jan-2008 17:17:47] <eurowerke> reinstall
[17-Jan-2008 17:17:48] <eurowerke> haha
[17-Jan-2008 17:18:51] <creining> any helpful tips?
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:05] <eurowerke> i assume you've already tried restarting zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:05] <eurowerke> ?
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:20] <creining> uh, yeah
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:34] <creining> it ran the migrate script
[17-Jan-2008 17:19:54] <eurowerke> automatically?
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:03] <creining> yep
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:09] <eurowerke> hrm must be a feature on the new ver
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:16] <eurowerke> old versions didn't do that lol
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:36] <eurowerke> add /zport/dmd to the url
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:49] <creining> thats what it redirects to
[17-Jan-2008 17:20:55] <eurowerke> hmmm
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:03] <klinstifen> what's the error?
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:09] <creining> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist.
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:24] <eurowerke> run a zenoss status
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:34] <creining> i did
[17-Jan-2008 17:21:49] <eurowerke> that sounds to me like something with zope isn't running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:02] <creining> there's a few things not running, but i'm not sure if they need to be
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:19] <eurowerke> like?
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:22] <creining> Daemon: zenhub not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:22] <creining> Daemon: zenping not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:23] <creining> Daemon: zensyslog not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:28] <creining> Daemon: zenactions not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:28] <creining> Daemon: zentrap not running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:28] <eurowerke> yeah...
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:38] <eurowerke> zenhub definitely needs to be running
[17-Jan-2008 17:22:51] <eurowerke> what do the logs say?
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:13] <eurowerke> zenhub start
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:17] <eurowerke> then wait a minute
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:19] <eurowerke> zenhub status
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:23] <eurowerke> see if it stopped running by itself
[17-Jan-2008 17:23:33] <eurowerke> if so check the logs and see what they say
[17-Jan-2008 17:24:42] <creining> # /opt/zenoss/bin/zenhub start
[17-Jan-2008 17:24:42] <creining> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenhub: line 13: /bin/zenfunctions: No such file or directory
[17-Jan-2008 17:24:44] <creining> /opt/zenoss/bin/zenhub: line 20: generic: command not found
[17-Jan-2008 17:26:04] <creining> zenfunctions is in /opt/zenoss/bin
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:08] <klinstifen> do a more on /bin/zenhub
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:18] <klinstifen> does line 13 say . $ZENHOME/bin/zenfunctions?
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:27] <creining> yeah
[17-Jan-2008 17:27:52] <creining> i'm just going to change that
[17-Jan-2008 17:28:25] <klinstifen> to wha?
[17-Jan-2008 17:29:11] <creining> the correct path
[17-Jan-2008 17:29:34] <klinstifen> that is the correct path....unless your $ZENHOME isn't defined correctly
[17-Jan-2008 17:29:49] <creining> where is that defined
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:01] <klinstifen> it's in your zenoss user path
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:06] <klinstifen> as zenoss suer
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:09] <klinstifen> err zenoss user
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:12] <klinstifen> do this:
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:13] <klinstifen> cd
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:25] <klinstifen> more .batchrc or more .batch_profile
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:39] <klinstifen> sorry bash not batch
[17-Jan-2008 17:30:55] <klinstifen> in there ZENHOME is defined
[17-Jan-2008 17:31:12] <klinstifen> or you could just type echo $ZENHOME
[17-Jan-2008 17:34:44] <creining> whats the zenoss password
[17-Jan-2008 17:35:26] <creining> is that the mysql passwd
[17-Jan-2008 17:36:30] <klinstifen> as root you can just su zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 17:36:36] <klinstifen> or root-like user
[17-Jan-2008 17:36:55] <creining> no when you start/stop the zenoss services
[17-Jan-2008 17:38:37] <klinstifen> should be whatever you defined
[17-Jan-2008 17:38:44] <klinstifen> you could also do a /etc/init.d/zenoss stop
[17-Jan-2008 17:38:53] <klinstifen> as your normal root-like user
[17-Jan-2008 17:39:17] <creining> it won't source the correct bashrc then
[17-Jan-2008 17:41:18] <klinstifen> you could change the password of the zenoss user
[17-Jan-2008 17:41:23] <klinstifen> pwd zenoss
[17-Jan-2008 18:16:11] <jb_> i'm trying to figure out why the DNSMonitor zenpack is not working, is there a way I can see the actual check_dns command that it is executing?
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[17-Jan-2008 18:26:58] <klinstifen> jb_
[17-Jan-2008 18:26:59] <klinstifen> yeah
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:11] <klinstifen> click on your device and go to templates
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:19] <klinstifen> then the DNSMonitor template
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:32] <klinstifen> and it will tell you the path/command under the datapoints propertiex
[17-Jan-2008 18:27:36] <klinstifen> *properties
[17-Jan-2008 18:32:35] <klinstifen> or look in the $ZENHOME/Products/DNSMonitor/libexec folder
[17-Jan-2008 18:47:47] <twm10101> Anyone good at explaining how to setup event mapping/
[17-Jan-2008 18:47:50] <twm10101> ?
[17-Jan-2008 19:19:40] <jb_> klin: no check_dns command there.. under the datapoint properties
[17-Jan-2008 19:21:43] <tafryn> Hey channel, is there some documentation out there that describes how to get Zenoss to talk snmpv3?
[17-Jan-2008 19:25:36] <klinstifen> jb_: one sec
[17-Jan-2008 19:27:21] <twm10101> tafryn: i think its in the manual?
[17-Jan-2008 19:33:58] <jb_> hm
[17-Jan-2008 19:37:42] <klinstifen> jb_: check_dns is found at $ZENHOME/libexec
[17-Jan-2008 19:37:54] <klinstifen> do a ./check_dns --help from that dir
[17-Jan-2008 19:38:29] <jb_> right
[17-Jan-2008 19:38:36] <jb_> im trying to see exactly what paramters zen is passing to it
[17-Jan-2008 19:39:07] <jb_> i thought it would be in a log file, but I can't seem to find it
[17-Jan-2008 19:44:32] <klinstifen> well looking at the DnsMonitorDataSource.py
[17-Jan-2008 19:44:43] <tafryn> right, I've already set all the appropriate snmpv3 values, but for some reason I keep getting an error: "snmp agent down on device"
[17-Jan-2008 19:45:02] <tafryn> I can perform command-line snmpwalks with the same authentication information just fine though.
[17-Jan-2008 19:45:07] <klinstifen> it seems to pass hostname, dnsserver, and expectedIPAddress
[17-Jan-2008 19:50:46] <twm10101> search the forum?
[17-Jan-2008 19:54:58] <twm10101> Anyone else know where to set a proxy server environment variable for the Appliance?
[17-Jan-2008 19:55:11] <twm10101> I set it on the rAA page, but neither the rAA or Zenoss can get to the Internet
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[17-Jan-2008 20:24:25] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[17-Jan-2008 20:46:12] <klinstifen> is there a way to grant ZenUsers access to network maps?
[17-Jan-2008 20:47:17] <klinstifen> was there someone in here asking about network maps, yesterday?
[17-Jan-2008 20:50:06] <tafryn> The manual mentions a zTransportPreference setting that can be changed to cause the modler to do a portscan. This setting is absent from the zProperties tab in 2.1.2. How do I make the modler do a portscan?
[17-Jan-2008 21:08:14] <jb_> argh, now my apachemonitor template is gone, and wont come back when I reinstall the zenpack
[17-Jan-2008 21:09:14] <jb_> thre we go
[17-Jan-2008 21:13:49] <jb_> ive messed something up.. zen error's out when I click the 'Perf' tab of every new device
[17-Jan-2008 21:13:59] <jb_> Type: AttributeError
[17-Jan-2008 21:14:00] <jb_> Value: speed
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:21] <eurowerke> ahh sonicwall
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:23] <eurowerke> suck my balls
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:23] <eurowerke> haha
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:33] <klinstifen> lol
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:55] <klinstifen> hey jb_ if you can't get it back to normal try deleting the zenhub-1.zec file
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:56] <eurowerke> found a bug in their firmware
[17-Jan-2008 21:15:57] <eurowerke> lol
[17-Jan-2008 21:16:34] <eurowerke> in talking to one of the support techs, I asked "could I have found a bug in the firmware?" he says "wouldn't be surprised" hahaha
[17-Jan-2008 21:16:50] <eurowerke> this would work better with a linux firewall
[17-Jan-2008 21:16:51] <jb_> klin: hm, whats that do?
[17-Jan-2008 21:19:41] <jb_> that didnt fix it :/
[17-Jan-2008 21:29:33] <jb_> ok fixed.. accidentally had ethernet bound to a group
[17-Jan-2008 21:38:48] <klinstifen> nice
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[17-Jan-2008 23:19:53] <sbellows> is this the place for new users to ask zenoss questions?
[17-Jan-2008 23:34:37] <stefano_> hi!
[17-Jan-2008 23:35:15] <stefano_> someone can help me?
[17-Jan-2008 23:46:04] <johns55> is it normal have the zenmodeler run at 100% cpu usage?
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[18-Jan-2008 01:40:23] <eurowerke> w000 it works!
[18-Jan-2008 01:44:14] <eurowerke> heheh dang firewall rules
[18-Jan-2008 01:44:15] <eurowerke> blaah
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[18-Jan-2008 06:16:09] <ChuckF1> how do I start zenoss
[18-Jan-2008 06:16:40] <ChuckF1> I suppose it is a web qui using some port
[18-Jan-2008 06:18:11] <ChuckF1> anyone listening
[18-Jan-2008 13:36:18] <wam> I'm measuring page-response-time for some webservers. How can I use a Critical (unreachable) as downtime? I want "Availability" of that device to go down.
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[18-Jan-2008 14:52:29] <jb_> anybody here monitoring ESX 3.5?
[18-Jan-2008 15:39:18] <klinstifen> besides mibdepot.com what other sites offer mibs for download?
[18-Jan-2008 15:46:28] <jb_> I think thats the only one I've used..
[18-Jan-2008 16:16:41] <MoreDakka> So I want to create a bash script to run an http, telnet and ping. Then only error if all three fail, how can I get ${dev/manageIp} into the script when zenoss runs the script per host? Or is there a better way to do it?
[18-Jan-2008 16:26:26] <twm10101> anybody home?
[18-Jan-2008 16:33:58] <jb_> anybody using the mysqlmonitor zenpack?
[18-Jan-2008 16:34:09] <jb_> cant seem to find the zproperty for the mysql password
[18-Jan-2008 16:35:15] <twm10101> i would think it'd be diff for each device
[18-Jan-2008 16:35:29] <twm10101> its not under device/zprop?
[18-Jan-2008 16:36:38] <twm10101> does at least one of my bound performance templates need to check sysUpTime for it to be shown on the status page of my devices?
[18-Jan-2008 16:40:25] <twm10101> My uptime is unknown on all my windows servers
[18-Jan-2008 16:44:24] <klinstifen> jb_ i am using it
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:06] <klinstifen> jb_: since the password is different on my boxes, i had to make a local copy of the template
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:19] <klinstifen> then you go into the properties of that template and click on the datasource
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:32] <klinstifen> the password is specified under MySQL Password
[18-Jan-2008 16:45:39] <klinstifen> moredakka: i can help you with that
[18-Jan-2008 16:46:22] <klinstifen> moredakka: in your command datasource you would call your bash script and put a space and ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 16:46:41] <klinstifen> so like: /mypath/myscript.sh ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 16:47:14] <klinstifen> then in your bash script you would reference the IP by using $1 or $2 etc, depending on how many variables you pass
[18-Jan-2008 16:47:25] <klinstifen> example:
[18-Jan-2008 16:47:37] <klinstifen> echo "my first value is:" $1
[18-Jan-2008 16:50:18] <jb_> Ah ok
[18-Jan-2008 16:50:19] <jb_> thanks
[18-Jan-2008 16:50:52] <antiphase> `man bash`
[18-Jan-2008 16:52:32] <jb_> So.. after you have setup /Locations, how do you assign devices to these locations?
[18-Jan-2008 16:52:46] <jb_> Ah.. nm
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:19] <twm10101> Got it...
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:25] <twm10101> can't forget that datapoint in your templates
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:37] <twm10101> jb: you can do it when you add devices too
[18-Jan-2008 16:56:45] <twm10101> not just after the fact
[18-Jan-2008 17:05:48] <twm10101> Hey cluther, when i run zenmib to import a mib, and it barks about not having certain RFCs available, does it still add them correctly?
[18-Jan-2008 17:05:55] <phreekbird> got a problem with zenwin
[18-Jan-2008 17:05:57] <phreekbird> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[18-Jan-2008 17:06:06] <phreekbird> anyone know whats up with this? and how i can fix it?
[18-Jan-2008 17:06:40] <twm10101> phreek, its an authentication error
[18-Jan-2008 17:06:55] <twm10101> the username/password set for WMI is probably typed wrong
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[18-Jan-2008 17:08:21] <phreekbird> hmmm
[18-Jan-2008 17:08:28] <phreekbird> ok lemme go dig for that then
[18-Jan-2008 17:08:37] <phreekbird> thanks btw you have helped me a ton !
[18-Jan-2008 17:10:21] <cluther> twm1010: No.. it doesn't.
[18-Jan-2008 17:10:55] <cluther> twm1010: If they're RFC MIBs you should be able to find them in your /usr/share/snmp/mibs directory from your Net-SNMP install.
[18-Jan-2008 17:11:21] <cluther> twm1010: If you copy them into the $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site directory and re-run zenmib it should be able to resolve the dependencies.
[18-Jan-2008 17:12:09] <cluther> twm1010: If not, you should compare the name of the MIB that zenmib is unable to find with the name of the MIB you copied over. They have to match EXACTLY. I've seen situations where the naming conventions for these MIBs have not been consistent.
[18-Jan-2008 17:12:49] <phreekbird> ok i looked into devices /server/windows in zproperties, and i cant find where to stick the login/passwd info ... so where should i put it?
[18-Jan-2008 17:13:53] <phreekbird> only thing i see is zWmiMonitorIgnore = false
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:12] <cluther> phreekbird: zWinUser and zWinPassword
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:25] <phreekbird> ok i have those set to my admin acc
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:30] <phreekbird> so iknow they are correct
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:34] <klinstifen> prhreekbird: yeah, should be right above zWmiMonitorIgnore
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:42] <MoreDakka> So I want to create a bash script to run an http, telnet and ping. Then only error if all three fail, how can I get ${dev/manageIp} into the script when zenoss runs the script per host? Or is there a better way to do it?
[18-Jan-2008 17:16:57] <cluther> phreekbird: ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT always means the username is wrong. Are you using a local account or a domain account?
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:05] <klinstifen> moredakka: in your command datasource you would call your bash script and put a space and ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:12] <klinstifen> so like: /mypath/myscript.sh ${dev/manageIp}
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:25] <phreekbird> cluther, domain
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:30] <klinstifen> then in your bash script you would reference the IP by using $1 or $2 etc, depending on how many variables you pass
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:39] <cluther> phreekbird: Make sure the zWinUser is specified as "DOMAIN\Username" without the quotes.
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:43] <phreekbird> cluther, so should i add the username as domain\username ?
[18-Jan-2008 17:17:49] <phreekbird> lol k thanks
[18-Jan-2008 17:18:21] <cluther> phreekbird: Once you get that setup properly, move the WMI events to history so Zenoss will retry the connections.
[18-Jan-2008 17:18:52] <phreekbird> cluther, worked perfectly
[18-Jan-2008 17:21:06] <cluther> fantastic!
[18-Jan-2008 17:35:09] <eurowerke> cluther you around?
[18-Jan-2008 17:35:50] <eurowerke> I changed the IP of the server zenoss is running on, and now I can't get the zen* daemon failure messages to go away
[18-Jan-2008 17:37:05] <cluther> eurowerke: Choose clear all heartbeats from the menu in event manager.
[18-Jan-2008 17:41:28] <eurowerke> ahh
[18-Jan-2008 17:42:01] <eurowerke> also I may have found some issue, although I don't know if it's specifically zenoss
[18-Jan-2008 17:42:14] <eurowerke> could be the server or switch config
[18-Jan-2008 17:42:33] <eurowerke> I have my zenoss server running on an ms virtual server
[18-Jan-2008 17:43:39] <eurowerke> and I previously had the nics on the server operating independently
[18-Jan-2008 17:44:01] <eurowerke> I teamed them a week ago, and now snmp and pings fail randomly
[18-Jan-2008 17:44:27] <eurowerke> i had changed the settings in the virtual server to use the network team instead of an individual network card
[18-Jan-2008 17:45:17] <eurowerke> but still have the problem... it does seem that it would probably be an issue with the server net config and not zenoss, but occasionally I can ping and walk devices from zenoss but it still reports them as down
[18-Jan-2008 17:46:05] <jb_> hm, twm, I don't see a location field in the Add Device box
[18-Jan-2008 18:00:50] <twm1010> cluther: thanks for the replies
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:16] <twm1010> its there
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:18] <twm1010> hold on
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:34] <twm1010> see location path?
[18-Jan-2008 18:01:37] <twm1010> its a dropdown
[18-Jan-2008 18:03:24] <twm1010> I'm wondering how availability is calculated
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[18-Jan-2008 18:39:12] <cluther> twm1010: Anything in particular about it?
[18-Jan-2008 18:39:31] <cluther> twm1010: The short answer is in $ZENHOME/Products/ZenEvents/Availability.py
[18-Jan-2008 18:39:36] <cluther> twm1010: specifically the run method
[18-Jan-2008 18:39:48] <cluther> twm1010: I'm not going to say it's obvious from looking at that though.
[18-Jan-2008 18:40:04] <cluther> twm1010: Are you running Enterprise?
[18-Jan-2008 19:00:35] <twm1010> No, I'm using Core
[18-Jan-2008 19:04:19] <MuseHome> anyone had the mySQL database run at 100%CPU?
[18-Jan-2008 19:04:57] <foo> MuseHome: What's your question?
[18-Jan-2008 19:06:05] <MuseHome> My zenoss install has starting hitting the database so much that the mysql is eatting 100% of my CPU
[18-Jan-2008 19:06:57] <MuseHome> there are only 6 queries running on the database.
[18-Jan-2008 19:07:45] <MuseHome> insert into status set Location='
[18-Jan-2008 19:07:45] <MuseHome> and 3 of "select severity, count(*), group_concat(eventState) "
[18-Jan-2008 19:08:22] <MuseHome> is there something I can reindex?
[18-Jan-2008 19:09:57] <foo> wow
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:05] <foo> hm, and if you stop zenoss from checking that it's fine?
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:14] <MuseHome> yep
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:22] <MuseHome> mysqld goes to 0%
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:36] <foo> that's weird
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:37] <MuseHome> and this is the only thing the systems is doing.
[18-Jan-2008 19:10:43] <foo> eek
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> %CPU PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> 164 9956 mysql 17 0 145m 31m 4856 S 1.6 29:24.50 mysqld
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> 17 10156 zenoss 15 0 51168 31m 2608 S 1.7 5:12.37 python
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:00] <MuseHome> 16 10114 zenoss 15 0 109m 62m 4260 S 3.3 0:23.23 python
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:06] <cluther> How many rows in your status and history tables?
[18-Jan-2008 19:11:07] <MuseHome> 2 CPU system.
[18-Jan-2008 19:12:25] <MuseHome> other then a select is there a quicker way to get that?
[18-Jan-2008 19:12:35] <MuseHome> 214290 in status
[18-Jan-2008 19:13:13] <cluther> selecting the count is the only way..
[18-Jan-2008 19:13:35] <cluther> That's probably a lot of events for the standard MySQL InnoDB config.. have you done any tweaking of MySQL?
[18-Jan-2008 19:13:49] <MuseHome> nope
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:10] <MuseHome> 874335 in history
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:19] <twm1010> holy shnikeys
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:27] <MuseHome> 1 row in set (59.57 sec) to get that info
[18-Jan-2008 19:14:42] <MuseHome> ye the system is craming out. can reload pages.
[18-Jan-2008 19:15:15] <cluther> MuseHome: You need to check out this forum topic: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4628
[18-Jan-2008 19:15:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - poor performance (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Jan-2008 19:16:08] <MuseHome> ok well do.
[18-Jan-2008 19:16:20] <MuseHome> is the database not getting cleandup?
[18-Jan-2008 19:16:26] <MuseHome> or are things coming in to fast?
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:01] <cluther> Things are coming too fast for your MySQL config.. although a million events seems like an awful lot. Do you have a firewall logging to Zenoss or something like that?
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:32] <MuseHome> Yes and I just stoped zensyslog. becase of the load.
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:42] <MuseHome> but the database still seems to be running slow.
[18-Jan-2008 19:17:59] <cluther> Yup.. it has gotten too big for its britches.
[18-Jan-2008 19:18:54] <MuseHome> ok. one other thing the FWs where on in the systems yet.
[18-Jan-2008 19:19:11] <gwj002> Hey yall, I hate to interupt but does anyone know if there is an easy way to get a printout of a Network Map?
[18-Jan-2008 19:22:36] <klinstifen> ctrl-p?
[18-Jan-2008 19:23:47] <klinstifen> gwj002: right-click the network map and choose print
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[18-Jan-2008 19:26:17] <gwj002> I tried that it. It didn't work
[18-Jan-2008 19:26:34] <klinstifen> really? weird, mine printed
[18-Jan-2008 19:26:47] <cluther> Must be the version of flash..
[18-Jan-2008 19:27:04] <cluther> You could get a screen grabbing tool that supports selecting the box to capture.
[18-Jan-2008 19:28:13] <klinstifen> print screen, paste to paint or other default graphing tool?
[18-Jan-2008 19:33:46] <gwj002> Nevermind that works. It was just going to the wrong printer in the office. Silly me.
[18-Jan-2008 19:34:07] <klinstifen> lol
[18-Jan-2008 19:35:59] <q2srw77> Anyone really good with Event Manager - Commands. Using Winexe to automatically restart a failed service? I know how to automatically restart a single service. I'm looking to pull the device name and service name from the event to restart any windows service that fails.
[18-Jan-2008 19:38:15] <cluther> winexe -U '${dev/zWinUser}%${dev/zWinPassword}' //${dev/manageIp} 'net start ${evt/component}'
[18-Jan-2008 19:38:40] <q2srw77> you the man if that works
[18-Jan-2008 19:38:44] <cluther> I haven't tested that, but looks good to me.
[18-Jan-2008 19:39:31] <q2srw77> where can I find info on those commands. I've looked in the admin and dev guides online and didn't find much about it.
[18-Jan-2008 19:40:13] <cluther> There is an appendix in the admin guide that lists some of the most commonly used TALES expressions.. which is what the ${obj/property} stuff is.
[18-Jan-2008 19:40:37] <q2srw77> kewl I'll look again
[18-Jan-2008 19:41:07] <MuseHome> cluther: I was remove some of the history datas...... Query OK, 30570 rows affected (9 min 27.63 sec)
[18-Jan-2008 19:48:27] <q2srw77> YOU THE MAN - It works perfect THANKS
[18-Jan-2008 19:51:48] <cluther> Shocking.
[18-Jan-2008 19:53:14] <twm1010> heh, that looks like a very useful command
[18-Jan-2008 19:54:48] <klinstifen> kgoedte1: was it you that was working on an advanced Apache zenpack?
[18-Jan-2008 19:56:37] <twm1010> so winexe can remotely execute anything on the windows box?
[18-Jan-2008 19:58:30] <cluther> twm1010: yes
[18-Jan-2008 19:59:58] <twm1010> hrmm, so availability is a combination of different things
[18-Jan-2008 20:00:16] <twm1010> reason i'm working on this, is because it seems when i shut the zenoss server down, the availability of all my systems gets affected
[18-Jan-2008 20:17:32] <klinstifen> twm1010: that happens on two of my boxes when i reboot/shutdown zenoss. it always comes back online sayin my dc's are offline (yikes!)
[18-Jan-2008 20:17:56] <twm1010> hrmm
[18-Jan-2008 21:44:44] <jb_> any people monitoring AIX here?
[18-Jan-2008 21:56:46] <W8TAH> good evening everyone -- trying a zenoss install on ubuntu server 6.10
[18-Jan-2008 21:56:52] <jb_> does anyone's snmpwalk here support -p (port)?
[18-Jan-2008 22:00:54] <cluther> jb_: Nope.. I think you just have to do hostname:port
[18-Jan-2008 22:00:56] <cluther> with the colon.
[18-Jan-2008 22:31:43] <W8TAH> hi guys -- im at the stage of the install where i type ./install.sh
[18-Jan-2008 22:31:52] <W8TAH> on ubuntu 6.06 lts
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:07] <W8TAH> i got the error
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:13] <W8TAH> error 1
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:20] <W8TAH> dirname: missing operand
[18-Jan-2008 22:32:26] <W8TAH> how what?
[18-Jan-2008 22:58:34] <W8TAH> im giving up -- the build script keeps erroring out
[18-Jan-2008 23:02:37] <MuseHome> how long will zenoss keep something in the history?
[18-Jan-2008 23:04:30] <MuseHome> is that the "Event Aging Threshold" ?
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[21-Jan-2008 15:30:24] <duncan> ZenOSS is working great so far! I have a question if anyone is awake yet. My reports generate blank pages. And my discovery only seems to find devices that respond to ICMP. Can I switch zendisc to use SNMP instead?
[21-Jan-2008 15:49:47] <wam> I have a class /devices/www which performs a http call. I'd like the devices' status to be "down" if the call fails so that Availability shrinks. How can I accomplish that?
[21-Jan-2008 15:57:34] <twm1010> Anyone know if winexe plays nice with Windows2000 boxes?
[21-Jan-2008 15:58:59] <duncan> ZenOSS is working great so far! I have a question if anyone is awake yet. My reports generate blank pages. Also, my discovery only seems to find devices that respond to ICMP. Can I switch zendisc to use SNMP instead?
[21-Jan-2008 16:02:29] <twm1010> If your reports are blank, its not gathering performance data
[21-Jan-2008 16:02:46] <twm1010> which for windows, would mean the SNMP informant package is not installed
[21-Jan-2008 16:02:54] <twm1010> and for linux, it means net-snmp is unconfigured
[21-Jan-2008 16:03:12] <wam> I have a class /devices/www which performs a http call. I'd like the devices' status to be "down" if the call fails so that Availability shrinks. How can I accomplish that?
[21-Jan-2008 16:18:30] <duncan> twm1010: but all of the performance graphs show data
[21-Jan-2008 16:20:31] <duncan> another question: the modeler added monitored services to several servers which I do not wish to monitor. I removed them from the OS tab but it still shows up in the status tab and generates service down events constantly. how do I remove a monitored service from a single host?
[21-Jan-2008 16:33:17] <duncan> I can click on the service link in the OS tab and switch monitor to FALSE. However, the service still shows up on the node status page under the category "other" and is generating service down events constantly.
[21-Jan-2008 18:06:19] <duncan> ZenOSS is working great so far! I have a question if anyone is awake yet. My reports generate blank pages. Also, my discovery only seems to find devices that respond to ICMP. Can I switch zendisc to use SNMP instead?
[21-Jan-2008 18:06:28] <duncan> another question: the modeler added monitored services to several servers which I do not wish to monitor. I removed them from the OS tab but it still shows up in the status tab and generates service down events constantly. how do I remove a monitored service from a single host?
[21-Jan-2008 18:06:37] <duncan> I can click on the service link in the OS tab and switch monitor to FALSE. However, the service still shows up on the node status page under the category "other" and is generating service down events constantly.
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[21-Jan-2008 18:19:28] <jb_> anybody monitoring aix hosts?
[21-Jan-2008 18:32:36] <MoreDakka> How are the winservices monitored? Can those be monitored through snmp or does it have to be through wmi?
[21-Jan-2008 18:46:04] <duncan> I have some hosts that do no respond to ICMP, but I want to monitor them. I had to add them manually because autodiscovery relies upon icmp echo request. Now that they have been added and modeled, they are throwing up tons of events because they cannot be pinged. I set the zPingMonitorIgnore to True but I still get flooded with events saying the node is down, while it still replies to SNMP.
[21-Jan-2008 19:58:12] <MoreDakka> How are the winservices monitored? Can those be monitored through snmp or does it have to be through wmi?
[21-Jan-2008 21:03:23] <duncan> MoreDakka: I'm guessing WMI is needed to enumerate the list of running services. I have the SNMP daemon started on my Windows servers and they aren't reporting services or software.
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[22-Jan-2008 00:45:53] <jb___> is there a delay when posting to zenoss-users?.. I sent an email over an hour ago, and it's not on the list yet
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[22-Jan-2008 09:25:10] <wam> I have a class /devices/www which performs a http call. I'd like the devices' status to be "down" if the call fails so that Availability shrinks. How can I accomplish that?
[22-Jan-2008 09:50:47] <QuasiMofo> Hello I'm new to Irc
[22-Jan-2008 09:51:17] <QuasiMofo> I've recently installed Zenoss and would like some advice
[22-Jan-2008 10:00:18] <QuasiMofo> basically am trying to compile the UPS.mib into the system and am in a world of hurt, would love some help
[22-Jan-2008 10:21:35] <wam> This is a dead channel.
[22-Jan-2008 10:34:22] <cool^tom> Hi
[22-Jan-2008 11:23:36] <jls> hi....anyone in here know anything about zenoss-plugins
[22-Jan-2008 11:23:50] <jls> ?
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[22-Jan-2008 11:37:06] <jls_> register jls_
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:20] <jls_> register focodule
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:33] <jls_> oops
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:44] <jls_> nickserv> register focodule
[22-Jan-2008 11:37:50] <jls_> oooooops
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:19] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:20] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:20] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:20] <jls_> .
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[22-Jan-2008 11:38:26] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:28] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:30] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:32] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:34] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:36] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:38] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:40] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:42] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:44] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:38:46] <jls_> .
[22-Jan-2008 11:55:33] <wam> jls_: I'd change my password now if I were you.
[22-Jan-2008 13:21:22] <klinstifen> is there a way to move the NIC perf graphs to the general Perf tab for a device?
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[22-Jan-2008 18:48:39] <MoreDakka> What user do I have to run bin/zenbackup as?
[22-Jan-2008 19:28:13] <gepp> I am getting - Code: 1 - Msg: General error message when trying to use check_http for cert verifications. The event summary is showing the error, but the details tab is showing the actual Warning message. Has anyone experienced the same problem or have a quick fix for this ?
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[22-Jan-2008 20:10:54] <MoreDakka> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to know if zenoss is actually polling wmi data?
[22-Jan-2008 21:01:17] <johns55> ack for some reason i cant get the zenoss page up port 8080
[22-Jan-2008 21:01:23] <johns55> ive tried restarting zenoss too
[22-Jan-2008 21:04:14] <jb_> hrm, I can not figure out how to set the "HW Model" or "HW Make" for a device.. it looks like it was deprecated
[22-Jan-2008 21:04:18] <jb_> any developers here?
[22-Jan-2008 21:11:48] <johns55> anyone know how to restart zeoctl? you have to remove a pid?
[22-Jan-2008 21:13:09] <jb_> zeoctl restart?
[22-Jan-2008 22:53:54] <MoreDakka> If Zenoss isn't starting properly, what do I have to delete from the var dir?
[22-Jan-2008 23:06:40] <johns55> arg, for some reason i just added a ipservice smtp and zenoss is telling me its down when its not on the server
[22-Jan-2008 23:56:26] <QuasiMofo> anyone know how to sucessfully compile mibs?
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[23-Jan-2008 04:46:26] <QuasiMofo> exit
[23-Jan-2008 05:25:27] <rosscav> I'm a bit of a newbie to all this, and I seem to have an error with zenactions. If I type zenactions run I get the following error line:_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1054, "Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'")
[23-Jan-2008 05:25:57] <rosscav> anyone have any advice on how to fix this?
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[23-Jan-2008 14:59:55] <flea> hello
[23-Jan-2008 15:00:06] <flea> may i get a translation of this (install)
[23-Jan-2008 15:00:13] <flea> o run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>". See "man sudo_root" for details. /usr/local/zenoss from login shell is not the same as /usr/local/zenoss
[23-Jan-2008 15:03:47] <MoreDakka> If Zenoss isn't starting properly, what do I have to delete from the var dir to make it start properly?
[23-Jan-2008 15:05:58] <jb_> not starting properly?
[23-Jan-2008 15:06:31] <MoreDakka> Nope, first zopectl wasn't starting, managed to get that started by deleting all the pid files in the var dir, now zenhub won't start.
[23-Jan-2008 15:09:29] <flea> user zenoss - sudo -l gives all
[23-Jan-2008 15:09:38] <flea> but why can i not run ./install.sh
[23-Jan-2008 15:09:57] <flea> . /usr/local/zenoss is writable and owned by zenoss
[23-Jan-2008 15:14:06] <flea> . /usr/local/zenoss from login shell is not the same as /usr/local/zenoss -- quite honestly that doesnt make any sense
[23-Jan-2008 15:14:25] <flea> unless someone can explain that, but i can't install via install.sh because of that
[23-Jan-2008 15:17:45] <jb_> what OS are you running?
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:27] <flea> ubuntu linux
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:38] <flea> following the community guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zenoss
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[23-Jan-2008 15:18:50] <flea> thx bot
[23-Jan-2008 15:20:13] <flea> i am working from ~/zenoss-2.1.2 (version also)
[23-Jan-2008 15:20:55] <flea> should user zenoss $home be /usr/local/zenoss ?
[23-Jan-2008 15:28:19] <flea> bleh, i think i found it
[23-Jan-2008 15:28:34] <flea> its some new msg i never seen until now defined in default bash
[23-Jan-2008 15:28:37] <flea> bleh, my bad
[23-Jan-2008 15:32:53] <flea> future note...
[23-Jan-2008 15:33:20] <flea> other ubuntuer's may possibly need to rem the section in /etc/bash.bashrc that echos that garbage
[23-Jan-2008 15:33:36] <flea> using ubuntu server ed 7.1
[23-Jan-2008 15:37:00] <flea> fixed for me
[23-Jan-2008 16:33:47] <klinstifen> has anyone created a custom portlet for the dashboard?
[23-Jan-2008 16:35:18] <q2srw77> Having some problems with a New Zenoss Install - ZenPing won't start and I get a Localhost zenmodeler heartbeat failure.
[23-Jan-2008 16:37:12] <MoreDakka> If Zenoss isn't starting properly, what do I have to delete from the var dir to make it start properly? I've tried the pid files but no go
[23-Jan-2008 16:39:28] <q2srw77> I don't have Zenoss in the var dir
[23-Jan-2008 16:41:18] <klinstifen> moredakka: try deleting the *.zec files
[23-Jan-2008 16:58:33] <klinstifen> anyone created a custom portlet for the dashboard?
[23-Jan-2008 16:59:42] <MoreDakka> Ahhh....thanks klinstifen....wasn't sure about the zec files but that cleared that problem up ;-)
[23-Jan-2008 16:59:58] <klinstifen> awesome, glad to hear it
[23-Jan-2008 17:00:24] <MoreDakka> How can I tell if WMI is polling properly?
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[23-Jan-2008 17:23:33] <MoreDakka> Anyone tell me why zenhub isn't starting and generating this error? http://pastebin.ca/869912
[23-Jan-2008 17:23:40] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 869912 (at pastebin.ca)
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[23-Jan-2008 18:39:07] <johns55> i have a problem with smtp showing it is down when it is running on the server
[23-Jan-2008 19:25:50] <klinstifen> anyone configured a custom portlet for the dashboard
[23-Jan-2008 19:25:59] <klinstifen> or created reports that can be emailed out daily?
[23-Jan-2008 19:43:35] <MoreDakka> haha, all three of us have questions that neither of us can answer.
[23-Jan-2008 19:48:26] <MoreDakka> Can anyone tell me what zWmiMonitorIgoner is? Is it just a spelling mistake from many versions ago and they keep forgetting to fix it? Since there is zWmiMonitorIgnore already.
[23-Jan-2008 20:13:39] <klinstifen> I would say typo
[23-Jan-2008 20:14:15] <MoreDakka> Does it do anything? It's been a typo since v1.1.1
[23-Jan-2008 21:01:09] <duncan> I'm trying to build a custom graph definition that calculates availablility based on uptime and downtime OID's and I'm completely lost.. anyone have any experience working with Zenoss's RRD interface?
[23-Jan-2008 21:11:50] <jb_> you need to create a datasource, then define the graph and datapoints
[23-Jan-2008 21:20:46] <twm1010> anyone good with the reports?
[23-Jan-2008 21:20:51] <twm1010> got a syntax question
[23-Jan-2008 21:24:49] <flea> hello channel members.... i have a non-zenoss question, but since this is full of net admin types, thot i might give a whirl
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:07] <flea> i am unable to have snmpd listen, although it shows running and no errors
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:16] <flea> if anyone has a direction to point i would appreciate
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:29] <MoreDakka> iptables?
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:35] <MoreDakka> hosts.allow?
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:43] <flea> no iptables , no blockage
[23-Jan-2008 21:25:51] <flea> snmpwalk on the same host fails
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:03] <flea> Timeout: No Response from localhost
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:04] <MoreDakka> community?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:10] <MoreDakka> version?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:16] <flea> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:199 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:19] <MoreDakka> heh, these are all guesses but the first place I would start.
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:27] <MoreDakka> port 199?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:28] <flea> 5.3.1-6ubuntu2.1
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:29] <flea> ya
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:40] <MoreDakka> snmp is port 161 isn't it?
[23-Jan-2008 21:26:51] <flea> in my services file smux is 199
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:01] <MoreDakka> what is smux?
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:03] <duncan> jb_: I have a datasource created.. do I need a datasource for each datapoint? or can I define a single datasource for both the uptime and downtime.. and will I have to use some RPN to add the two together and divide by the uptime to get a percentage? before this was all done with OpenNMS and I had to create variables to use in the RPN.. with the front end I have no idea where to create variables or how to average the results of two datapoints
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:11] <flea> the service name
[23-Jan-2008 21:27:38] <flea> MoreDakka: ok, 161/2 are in services for snmp
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[23-Jan-2008 22:35:00] <q2srw77> Anyone know how to Disable Zenoss from pulling Windows Events Logs or only to pull Errors not warnings?
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[24-Jan-2008 14:03:14] <q2srw77> Anyone know how to Disable Zenoss from pulling Windows Events Logs or only to pull Errors not warnings?
[24-Jan-2008 14:30:20] <duncan> I'm trying to build a custom datasource that is tied to an OID that runs a script and returns 2 values, daily uptime and daily downtime.. and I want to calculate percentage availablility from this.. is there a good example of this anywhere in the internets?
[24-Jan-2008 15:03:55] <duncan> The two datapoints return the number of seconds each day of uptime and downtime.. so I am using RPN on my uptime to show: DailyUp,DailyUp,DailyDown,+,/,100,*
[24-Jan-2008 15:05:43] <duncan> I think I should change the two datapoints into custom definitions though.. will they still be able to reference the RRD file or will I need to specify the path?
[24-Jan-2008 15:07:06] <duncan> hmm what is the RRD datasource talking about? it defautled to ds0
[24-Jan-2008 15:15:31] <jsm> anyone write any advanced reports? i want to write reports that contain all the IPs for each box, services being monitored, what group they belong to, etc.. the manual is very sparse in regards to custom reports
[24-Jan-2008 15:36:24] <duncan> my reporting system is completely broken otherwise I would take a look
[24-Jan-2008 15:36:33] <duncan> just comes up with a blank page on all reports
[24-Jan-2008 15:44:00] <duncan> but good luck finding any help here.. it seems to be just a place to log your progress of troubleshooting and once a week or so you'll get a response to a question..
[24-Jan-2008 15:44:23] <duncan> at least there are forums to search! I can't say that much about OpenNMS
[24-Jan-2008 15:56:52] <jb_> does anyone know how I can populate the "HW Model/HW Make/OS Make/Model" on the status page via SNMP?
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[24-Jan-2008 17:01:31] <jsm> jb_: it does that when it models the device
[24-Jan-2008 17:01:50] <jsm> jb_: you usually need your hardware vendor's snmp extensions for that info
[24-Jan-2008 17:16:00] <duncan> I'm trying to add support for XMPP event notification. I can't find out if any of the groundwork has been laid for this type of feature, and if not.. where could I start for making a plugin?
[24-Jan-2008 17:16:42] <duncan> XMPP = jabber
[24-Jan-2008 17:51:45] <MoreDakka> What does WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping DEVICE has bad wmi state mean?
[24-Jan-2008 18:07:11] <q2srw77> Anyone know where to change the /Perf/Interface Threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded? I like like to increase the Threshold to 85%
[24-Jan-2008 18:55:50] <klinstifen> q2srw77: i know where
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:37] <klinstifen> browse to the device that owns the nic
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:43] <klinstifen> click on the nic
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:46] <klinstifen> then the template tab
[24-Jan-2008 18:56:53] <klinstifen> and then browse to the threshold
[24-Jan-2008 18:57:00] <klinstifen> change .75 to .85
[24-Jan-2008 19:09:53] <q2srw77> Thanks
[24-Jan-2008 19:20:52] <q2srw77> That worked. The only problem is that it wouldn't let me change the name from 75 to 85. So I just recreated the threshold and called it 85.
[24-Jan-2008 19:24:02] <q2srw77> I also had to remove 75 from the graph and add 85% as the Threshold
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[24-Jan-2008 20:00:04] <klinstifen> yeah sorry that's necessary too
[24-Jan-2008 20:09:41] <MoreDakka> Anyone here been able to get WMI monitoring going on a WinXP box?
[24-Jan-2008 20:10:02] <MoreDakka> Sorry the device is XP, the Zenoss server is CentOS
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[24-Jan-2008 20:12:12] <MoreDakka> Trying to get some winservices monitored but can't do that without WMI but can't seem to get WMI to monitor my test computer which is WinXP Pro
[24-Jan-2008 20:47:12] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka: I've never tried... maybe I should
[24-Jan-2008 20:54:05] <MoreDakka> We need to get WMI monitoring on our client's servers but want to make sure that it works so just testing with WinXP.
[24-Jan-2008 20:55:12] <felbane> Hi there, anyone not idle?
[24-Jan-2008 20:57:40] <felbane> ...
[24-Jan-2008 20:57:57] <felbane> Okay, well I'll ask my question and hopefully someone comes back :\
[24-Jan-2008 20:58:35] <felbane> I'm trying to configure ZenTrap to listen on a different port. I want to run snmptrapd on 161/udp and ZenTrap on, say, 10161/udp
[24-Jan-2008 20:58:55] <felbane> I see the zentrap.conf file, but it's empty and I don't see any documentation on it.
[24-Jan-2008 20:59:35] <felbane> The idea is to have only certain devices sending traps to Zenoss, and everything else is handled by snmptrapd/snmptt.
[24-Jan-2008 20:59:53] <felbane> Anyone know what the conf file directives are to change the listen port in ZenTrap?
[24-Jan-2008 21:10:29] <felbane> Anybody?
[24-Jan-2008 21:10:47] <MoreDakka> If I knew, I would help you out ;-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:10:57] <felbane> lol
[24-Jan-2008 21:11:13] <felbane> wtb ZenTrap documentation
P[24-Jan-2008 21:11:54] <MoreDakka> I want to get WMI working :-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:10] <felbane> omg I feel noobish
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:14] <felbane> zentrap genconf makes a config file with the default settings
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:23] <felbane> trapport 162
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:25] <felbane> lovely
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:30] <felbane> <- derp.
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:37] <MoreDakka> Least you found your answer :-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:45] <felbane> Indeed.
[24-Jan-2008 21:12:59] <felbane> You having WMI troubles, eh?
[24-Jan-2008 21:13:17] <MoreDakka> I know nothing about WMI so all that I'm doing is best guess.
[24-Jan-2008 21:13:31] <MoreDakka> Enabled the WMI service in WinXP Pro
[24-Jan-2008 21:14:22] <MoreDakka> entered an administrator's username/pw in zWinPass/User and made sure that zWmiMonitorIgnore is false.
[24-Jan-2008 21:14:35] <MoreDakka> Not sure what zWmiMonitorIgoner is so that is set to true.
[24-Jan-2008 21:15:56] <felbane> You using Active Directory, or no?
[24-Jan-2008 21:16:13] <MoreDakka> no
[24-Jan-2008 21:17:57] <felbane> Oh.
[24-Jan-2008 21:18:00] <felbane> Well,
[24-Jan-2008 21:18:25] <felbane> When we set ours up, we added a domain account that had admin privileges on each machine
[24-Jan-2008 21:18:54] <felbane> in your case, I think if you created local admins on each box you want to monitor, then set your user/pass, you should be ok
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:01] <MoreDakka> yeah that's probably going to be the idea when we get it going for the client, I want to see how WMI works before I start implementing things on their production network.
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:08] <felbane> Right.
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:35] <felbane> Granted, I ended up handing off the Windows monitoring component to someone else on the team
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:41] <felbane> so idk where she went from there
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:44] <MoreDakka> Yeah, that's what I have set right now, my username and password (admin on this machine) in the zWinUser/Pass and I don't get anthing.
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:45] <MoreDakka> haha
[24-Jan-2008 21:19:49] <felbane> lol
[24-Jan-2008 21:20:20] <felbane> you remodeled your box?
[24-Jan-2008 21:20:41] <MoreDakka> zenwinmodeler gives me 2008-01-24 09:10:29 WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping DEVICE has bad wmi state
[24-Jan-2008 21:22:32] <felbane> are you able to access wmi on the local box
[24-Jan-2008 21:23:07] <MoreDakka> yep
[24-Jan-2008 21:23:31] <felbane> same user and pass I assume?
[24-Jan-2008 21:23:55] <MoreDakka> That is correct. I'm just trying a different user cause my username has a space in it.
[24-Jan-2008 21:24:17] <felbane> hmm
[24-Jan-2008 21:24:37] <felbane> That shouldn't matter... the zWinUser should wrap quotes before being used
[24-Jan-2008 21:24:43] <felbane> then again, you never know
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:15] <felbane> the only zproperties we have set are zWinEventLog (True), zWinUser/Pass, and zWmiMonitorIgnore(True)
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:41] <MoreDakka> WmiMonitIgnore is True?
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:50] <MoreDakka> That doesn't make sense.
[24-Jan-2008 21:26:50] <felbane> yes
[24-Jan-2008 21:27:06] <felbane> That's just for Up/Down checks, I assume
[24-Jan-2008 21:27:25] <felbane> just like SNMP and Ping, that determines whether the device shows down when WMI is down
[24-Jan-2008 21:27:47] <felbane> with it set to True, the device will show UP, but you'll get a warning event in the log
[24-Jan-2008 21:28:03] <felbane> with that False, it will throw critical events if WMI is unavailable
[24-Jan-2008 21:28:13] <felbane> i believe
[24-Jan-2008 21:28:28] <MoreDakka> I thought that PingMonitorIgnore, SNMPMonitoIgnore and WMIMonitorIgnore was the actual polling settings.
[24-Jan-2008 21:29:31] <felbane> Only time I've touched those is when I know having that service down was OK.
[24-Jan-2008 21:29:37] <felbane> so it may be
[24-Jan-2008 21:30:07] <MoreDakka> But you have winservices being checked through WMI with that set to True, right?
[24-Jan-2008 21:30:25] <felbane> Yes.
[24-Jan-2008 21:31:38] <MoreDakka> What port does WMI work through, if I have IPTables on, what do I need to open up?
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:11] <felbane> Windows XP?
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:26] <MoreDakka> The iptables on the zenoss server are quite restrictive.
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:31] <felbane> lol
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:34] <MoreDakka> in/out.
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:48] <MoreDakka> well, not so much out.
[24-Jan-2008 21:32:50] <felbane> Any version of Windows prior to Vista, WMI is assigned ports by DCOM
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:03] <felbane> so it's random from a pool
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:14] <MoreDakka> but if a device is trying to send information back to zenoss....great...what do I have to open for that?
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:34] <felbane> well... DCOM uses... 1024-65535
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:35] <felbane>
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:44] <MoreDakka> hahah
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:49] <MoreDakka> that's MS for you.
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:54] <felbane> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndcom/html/msdn_dcomfirewall.asp
[24-Jan-2008 21:33:56] <felbane> that might help
[24-Jan-2008 21:34:22] <felbane> might be able to lasso WMI into a certain port range
[24-Jan-2008 21:34:42] <felbane> our stuff is all intranet, userspace, so no firewalls to worry about
[24-Jan-2008 21:34:47] <MoreDakka> Doesn't matter, I just shut iptables off and I get the same errors when trying to run zenwin manually.
[24-Jan-2008 21:36:16] <felbane> Yes.
[24-Jan-2008 21:36:33] <felbane> sorry, mistell
[24-Jan-2008 21:36:55] <felbane> hm... so upon further investigation, it looks like my teammate didn't finish what she started
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:22] <felbane> zenwinmodeler run -d device -v10 ends up with a Connection Lost error
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:27] <MoreDakka> DEBUG:zen.zenwinmodeler:Wmi Probs ['DEVICE'] when I try to run manually:-/
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:49] <felbane> Bleh.
[24-Jan-2008 21:37:50] <MoreDakka> haha
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:02] <MoreDakka> Looks like you have some work to do then ;-)
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:08] <felbane> Aye.
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:15] <felbane> Well, good luck to you
[24-Jan-2008 21:38:21] <MoreDakka> and you as well ;-)
[24-Jan-2008 21:42:45] <Brixius> Hello, I'm having a problem setting up events that clear other events that I just can't seem to work out. I have a device that sends traps, The trap is TelicaAlarm, now in that trap there are 2 fields(Varbinds) of intrest, one is the port name, and the other is port status. I need a port status of up to clear a port status of down where the port name matches.
[24-Jan-2008 21:43:09] <Brixius> can this be done?
[24-Jan-2008 21:43:33] <Brixius> and more importantly, if it can be done, how?
[24-Jan-2008 21:47:59] <Brixius> So for example I get a trap, telicaAlarm: Port ISDNIF-6070-LNK-6070 Status: Down
[24-Jan-2008 21:48:20] <Brixius> I wil get a matching telicaAlarm: Port ISDNIF-6070-LNK-6070 Status: Up
[24-Jan-2008 21:52:13] <Brixius> Anyone.... Anyone....
[24-Jan-2008 21:55:20] <Brixius> Is there anyone in MN(Twin Cities) who would want to do some paid consulting on Zenoss?
[24-Jan-2008 22:01:59] <Brixius> hmm, well let's open it up more, is there anyone who would do some paid consulting(Hourly) on zenoss(Using WebEx/Telephone)?
[24-Jan-2008 22:06:10] <q2srw77> Any ideas on why I'm getting <Server Name> zenwinmodeler heartbeat failure? The daemon keeps stopping on zenwinmodeler. I tired looking online for a fix and can't seem to find anything useful.
[24-Jan-2008 22:11:56] <q2srw77> NVM - I found the problem
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[25-Jan-2008 02:43:16] <ggong> hi, i'm new to zenoss.. i've gotten the system installed but can't seem to get process monitoring and filesystem monitoring to work
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[25-Jan-2008 07:26:21] <mf2ng> hmm, any1 care to explain how to use zenpacks, WindowsWMIDeviceTemplateV2 in specific?
[25-Jan-2008 07:26:47] <mf2ng> installation went good, but don't know where to start using. remodelling device didn't help
[25-Jan-2008 07:27:06] <mf2ng> am i stupid or what? =)
[25-Jan-2008 07:45:39] <aurax> hello
[25-Jan-2008 12:01:42] <mf2ng> problem solved, thanks you all for your priceless help! great channel!
[25-Jan-2008 15:18:22] <duncan> I have a question regarding the default ssCpuRawIdle_ssCpuRawIdle threshold returning 0.00 on about 50% of my servers. The servers are actually pretty idle, but why is this a problem?
[25-Jan-2008 15:19:31] <duncan> My event log is full of about 50 servers constantly getting an event for exceeding this threshold. I can turn off the threshold of course, but there must be a logical reason to include it in the default performance template.
[25-Jan-2008 15:43:47] <Gamekiller> good morning for those at PST time zone
[25-Jan-2008 15:44:49] <Gamekiller> i wanted to know how i could get hard drive used and freespace for windows box. i have snmp-informent installed and i see total drive space but not the brake out
[25-Jan-2008 16:11:39] <jy007> my question is that I have install vmware and ran Zenoss and it worked fine one time, I shutdown the server and closed vmware and now vmware and the Zenoss virtual machine work fine but I am unable to connect to the web console for Zenoss I get page can not be displayed
[25-Jan-2008 16:12:05] <jy007> I am going to the right IP http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080
[25-Jan-2008 16:13:34] <jy007> any ideas?
[25-Jan-2008 16:18:27] <jy007> can anyone help me?
[25-Jan-2008 16:22:43] <jy007> anybody home?
[25-Jan-2008 16:29:56] <linuxdave> hmmm if you do a netstat on the vm do you see it listening on 8080
[25-Jan-2008 16:33:39] <Gamekiller> talking about vmware do you guys know if there is a comminity irc support forum for it
[25-Jan-2008 16:34:15] <Gamekiller> i had a really funny problem with mine on windows as it would not work with load balancing on my 3 gig nic cards
[25-Jan-2008 16:34:45] <jy007> I don't see 8080 listed only goes up to 4660
[25-Jan-2008 16:35:41] <linuxdave> game.... dont know of any
[25-Jan-2008 16:35:52] <linuxdave> jy007 thats your problem... restart zenoss
[25-Jan-2008 16:36:00] <linuxdave> see if it then is listening
[25-Jan-2008 16:37:22] <jy007> will give it a try
[25-Jan-2008 16:39:56] <linuxdave> k
[25-Jan-2008 16:43:14] <jy007> I may have a corrupt downlod as the restart command gives error bd command zenoss
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:09] <stefano__> hi....!
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:22] <stefano__> someone can help me!!??
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:31] <flea> hi stefano__
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:44] <stefano__> hi flea
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:49] <flea> sup
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:49] <stefano__> i have a problem
[25-Jan-2008 16:50:54] <stefano__> with windows monitoring
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:03] <stefano__> can you help me?
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:07] <flea> describe your problem
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:19] <flea> i might not can help, but if someone sees your issue, they may be able to
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:31] <jy007> maybe I am typing the command wrong, zenoss restart
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:35] <stefano__> ok..when i add a windows device i can't see none information
[25-Jan-2008 16:51:43] <stefano__> about cpu, ram, swap etc...
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:05] <Gamekiller> what are you useing on the winbox
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:20] <Gamekiller> for the snmp agent
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:22] <stefano__> i'm using windows xp sp2
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:28] <stefano__> sotty
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:30] <stefano__> sorry
[25-Jan-2008 16:52:53] <Gamekiller> but did you install like snmp in the add component and snmp-informent
[25-Jan-2008 16:53:20] <stefano__> yes i've installed snmp windows default service
[25-Jan-2008 16:53:34] <stefano__> and i've installed snmp-informent
[25-Jan-2008 16:53:46] <Gamekiller> what do you see then when you walk device
[25-Jan-2008 16:54:12] <stefano__> i see some errors like
[25-Jan-2008 16:54:42] <stefano__> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for MANCA
[25-Jan-2008 16:54:58] <stefano__> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for MANCA
[25-Jan-2008 16:55:23] <Gamekiller> hmm i have not seen that one any one else in here
[25-Jan-2008 16:56:05] <stefano__> do you know what is cmd plugins??
[25-Jan-2008 16:56:14] <Gamekiller> let me walk my main server again see i can not get usage info i have total info but not that
[25-Jan-2008 16:56:41] <Gamekiller> see i get like total disk space but not the used or swap is my problem
[25-Jan-2008 16:57:02] <stefano__> i dont see anythink...
[25-Jan-2008 16:57:10] <stefano__> no process also..
[25-Jan-2008 16:57:24] <stefano__> with linux no problems...
[25-Jan-2008 16:58:03] <stefano__> i have to setting some user and password of windows in zenoss?
[25-Jan-2008 16:58:19] <stefano__> my windows machine doesn't have password...
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:12] <Gamekiller> i just installed the snmp wmi componet on windows
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:24] <Gamekiller> i going to try the communit zenpack that reads that
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:45] <Gamekiller> funny thing i get all the windows stuff like what patchs and service packs
[25-Jan-2008 16:59:52] <stefano__> sorry gamekiller
[25-Jan-2008 17:00:16] <stefano__> how can i install wmi components in windows??
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:40] <Gamekiller> it is one of the compants
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:46] <stefano__> ok
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:47] <Gamekiller> in add remove
[25-Jan-2008 17:01:55] <Gamekiller> i jsut found it on a wim
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:00] <Gamekiller> so i said why not lets try it
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:12] <Gamekiller> then i saw the zenpack that reads it
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:14] <Gamekiller> brb
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[25-Jan-2008 17:02:26] <stefano__> brb?
[25-Jan-2008 17:02:35] <GK_AFK> be right back
[25-Jan-2008 17:03:14] <GK_AFK> i just got a nasty little error when i tryed to add a proccess to the windows box in my zen site
[25-Jan-2008 17:03:32] <stefano__> ok...i just have wmi installed
[25-Jan-2008 17:04:01] <GK_AFK> when i get back i get you the full name brb
[25-Jan-2008 17:04:06] <stefano__> what is the zenpack that reads it brb??
[25-Jan-2008 17:10:20] <jy007> I am downloading another copy of the vmware version to see if I had a corupt download
[25-Jan-2008 17:13:48] <stefano__> zWmisuer and zWmipassword are related to windows?
[25-Jan-2008 17:14:35] <stefano__> Which username and password do i have to use?
[25-Jan-2008 17:19:37] <GK_AFK> hmm not sure
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[25-Jan-2008 17:20:36] <stefano__> sure of what?
[25-Jan-2008 17:20:57] <Gamekiller> that last line you posted
[25-Jan-2008 17:21:47] <stefano__> but you have used some windows password in zenoss or not?
[25-Jan-2008 17:23:41] <klinstifen> anyone using the httpmonitor zenpack?
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:05] <klinstifen> stefano_: you probably need to use a windows username and password that has access to the computer
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:13] <klinstifen> domain admin...or something like that
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:53] <Gamekiller> stefano__: where did you see the zWmiuser settins
[25-Jan-2008 17:24:59] <Gamekiller> setting*
[25-Jan-2008 17:25:01] <stefano__> if i haven't password i can left it blank?
[25-Jan-2008 17:25:34] <stefano__> in zProprieties
[25-Jan-2008 17:25:58] <Gamekiller> ok cool i have to look at that
[25-Jan-2008 17:27:40] <Gamekiller> has any one worked with the manufactures section on adding cpu classes
[25-Jan-2008 17:27:58] <Gamekiller> zenoss dose not detect my Xeon quade cores
[25-Jan-2008 17:36:03] <stefano__> i've insert my win user..
[25-Jan-2008 17:36:24] <stefano__> but i can't see some proprieties..
[25-Jan-2008 17:52:58] <Gamekille> why can i never find zProprieties when i need it but when i do not it right there
[25-Jan-2008 17:53:09] <Gamekille> i need to edit zProp for the wim
[25-Jan-2008 17:53:42] <Gamekille> found it
[25-Jan-2008 18:30:33] <twm1010> happy friday
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[25-Jan-2008 19:48:02] <stefano_> hi!
[25-Jan-2008 19:48:08] <stefano_> help please!!
[25-Jan-2008 19:51:30] <stefano_> i can't see anythink with windows machines...
[25-Jan-2008 19:54:06] <flea> how do i tell zenoss "network map" network to default to something other than the 192.168.1 ?
[25-Jan-2008 20:04:01] <Dexterous> herroo
[25-Jan-2008 20:04:32] <Dexterous> I'm having some probs getting this thing to work
[25-Jan-2008 20:05:58] <Dexterous> zenping wont run and when i try to view the Devices page on zport it gives me the error Type: OperationalError Value: (1033, "Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'")
[25-Jan-2008 20:06:13] <Dexterous> new install on ubuntu 7.10
[25-Jan-2008 20:28:25] <klinstifen> flea: click on preferences at the top-right and fill in Network Map Start Object
[25-Jan-2008 20:33:58] <flea> klinstifen: ty
[25-Jan-2008 20:34:53] <klinstifen> flea: np
[25-Jan-2008 21:03:26] <Dexterous> can someone please help me figure out why zenping keeps bombing out?
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:11] <flea> Dexterous: i saw your previous post.
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:22] <flea> Dexterous: did you ensure to set the setuid bit ?
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:37] <Dexterous> yea
[25-Jan-2008 21:04:53] <Dexterous> i reinstalled zenoss to fix the status.frm error
[25-Jan-2008 21:05:08] <Dexterous> but zenping will start up for a few seconds then shut down
[25-Jan-2008 21:05:17] <Dexterous> says something about traceback
[25-Jan-2008 21:05:54] <Dexterous> and zenhub is giving me this: 2008-01-25 16:03:19 CRITICAL zenhub: ZenPing 'ub710jeos.lan' not found, ignoring network topology.
[25-Jan-2008 21:12:28] <flea> Dexterous: i got nothing sorry
[25-Jan-2008 21:14:19] <flea> quick question, i'm trying to find on my own searches... but is zenoss capable of reading info from ms server snmp (ie win 2003)
[25-Jan-2008 21:18:36] <Dexterous> bah screw this, i'm just gonna use the vm
[25-Jan-2008 21:31:24] <Dexterous> what distro does the zenoss vm use?
[25-Jan-2008 21:32:30] <klinstifen> flea: yes
[25-Jan-2008 21:38:59] <Dexterous> thanks guys you were an amazing help
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[26-Jan-2008 03:10:11] <Gamekille> has any one seen any good docs on how to setup snmp wmi for windows server 2003
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[26-Jan-2008 04:33:41] <Gamekiller> so have i not see a clear way of how to use nagios plugins i see zenoss can us it but not how
[26-Jan-2008 04:33:47] <Gamekiller> anyone dose this
[26-Jan-2008 04:34:07] <Gamekiller> done*
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[28-Jan-2008 11:56:21] <pablo26> hi all, can someone help me with dependencies?
[28-Jan-2008 12:58:59] <pablo26> is any way manually set zenping dependencies?
[28-Jan-2008 15:43:55] <jb__> I have a device showing up in my "Device Issues" portlet that has no events.. how can I get rid of it?
[28-Jan-2008 15:44:43] <Gamekiller> i get that too
[28-Jan-2008 15:44:47] <Gamekiller> it a grey event
[28-Jan-2008 15:45:02] <Gamekiller> mine just goes away on its own
[28-Jan-2008 15:47:03] <jb__> well, I have one of those too, but in this case, there isnt even a grey event
[28-Jan-2008 15:47:26] <jb__> it shows zero events
[28-Jan-2008 15:50:33] <Gamekiller> yah that what i have
[28-Jan-2008 15:50:42] <Gamekiller> but i looked in to it all the way and it was labled grey
[28-Jan-2008 15:51:31] <Gamekiller> what type of device is it for you
[28-Jan-2008 15:51:54] <Gamekiller> mine is a color printer
[28-Jan-2008 15:54:40] <jb__> its a linux server
[28-Jan-2008 15:58:16] <Gamekiller> i have yet to get my linux server to add to zenoss lol
[28-Jan-2008 15:58:25] <Gamekiller> got all my win server just not my linux
[28-Jan-2008 15:59:04] <Gamekiller> i going to need to add my new webserver to it
[28-Jan-2008 16:23:48] <stefano_> hi
[28-Jan-2008 16:23:56] <stefano_> someone can help me??
[28-Jan-2008 16:29:37] <stefano_> please help
[28-Jan-2008 16:42:54] <Gamekiller> there some around
[28-Jan-2008 16:44:58] <Gamekiller> stefano_: best thing to do is ask the question and someone may just answer it
[28-Jan-2008 16:45:50] <stefano_> i have problem to zetting zwinuser...
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:01] <Gamekiller> aaaa you too
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:19] <stefano_> i give my user..
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:23] <stefano_> and password
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:23] <Gamekiller> what your problem
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:30] <stefano_> but i have this error
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:33] <stefano_> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:48] <Gamekiller> hmm not seen that one yet
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:52] <stefano_> i know it is for wrong user or password..
[28-Jan-2008 16:46:56] <stefano_> gamekiller
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:04] <stefano_> my user is stefano
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:10] <stefano_> in zwinuser
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:11] <Gamekiller> are you on a domain or user level
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:27] <stefano_> in user level
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:34] <stefano_> ./stefano ???
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:39] <stefano_> or /stefano
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:44] <stefano_> or stefano?
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:49] <Gamekiller> i mean on hte win comp
[28-Jan-2008 16:47:58] <Gamekiller> is that a server? workstation?
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:04] <stefano_> workstation
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:09] <Gamekiller> win what
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:23] <stefano_> windows xp sp2 professional
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:40] <Gamekiller> you installed the snmp componit
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:42] <Gamekiller> on it
[28-Jan-2008 16:48:47] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:04] <Gamekiller> how about the wmi snmp
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:05] <stefano_> if i click on perf tab i can see graphics
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:26] <stefano_> but i cant see information about os or hardware
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:29] <Gamekiller> well you are one step higher then me
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:39] <Gamekiller> did you install snmp informent
[28-Jan-2008 16:49:56] <stefano_> yes i've installed it..
[28-Jan-2008 16:50:18] <Gamekiller> i am getting all my os and hardware with out password
[28-Jan-2008 16:50:30] <Gamekiller> and username
[28-Jan-2008 16:51:03] <Gamekiller> now the windows machine is it on a domain or workgroup
[28-Jan-2008 16:51:45] <stefano_> workgroup!
[28-Jan-2008 16:52:35] <Gamekiller> the username and password has admin level i am assuming right
[28-Jan-2008 16:53:51] <Gamekiller> that you enterd in to zproperties
[28-Jan-2008 16:54:06] <stefano_> but what you put in zuserwin space?
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:04] <Gamekiller> i placed my domain admin account level info
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:11] <Gamekiller> that has admin access to the system
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:35] <Gamekiller> see i haveing a problem where i see no graphs at all
[28-Jan-2008 16:55:46] <Gamekiller> but i see all my hardware profiles and windows pachs and all
[28-Jan-2008 16:59:08] <Gamekiller> stefano_: when do you see the error just wondering see if i get the same thign
[28-Jan-2008 16:59:17] <Gamekiller> i have not seen it but i may be looking in the wrong place
[28-Jan-2008 16:59:30] <stefano_> look in events
[28-Jan-2008 17:00:04] <stefano_> so..where i can look about my domain admin account level??
[28-Jan-2008 17:00:35] <Gamekiller> well if you are on a workgroup you do not have one
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:07] <Gamekiller> that account name you have in zwinuser has admin access to the computer right
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:12] <stefano_> but i left blank i have the same errors
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:43] <stefano_> the computer is connected to a server
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:54] <Gamekiller> did you setup snmp on the windows client
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:54] <stefano_> i am working on the server
[28-Jan-2008 17:01:58] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:02] <stefano_> i'm on linux server
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:04] <Gamekiller> like the server and stuff
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:10] <Gamekiller> on the windows box
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:15] <stefano_> snmp is ok...
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:21] <Gamekiller> there is some setting you have to set snmp trap server
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:47] <Gamekiller> where to send the trap and what server has access to snmp on the windows box
[28-Jan-2008 17:02:49] <Gamekiller> not linux
[28-Jan-2008 17:03:03] <stefano_> snmp trap is ok...i've checked this and it's ok..
[28-Jan-2008 17:03:12] <Gamekiller> hmm odd
[28-Jan-2008 17:04:07] <Gamekiller> i have added 6 windows server to zenoss with out any errors like that but i can not see cpu usage nor hd usage at all
[28-Jan-2008 17:04:10] <Gamekiller> but i get the rest
[28-Jan-2008 17:07:47] <stefano_> i none..
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:02] <Gamekiller> odd
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:13] <stefano_> only graphs
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:19] <Gamekiller> i have yet to try it with a workstation
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:32] <Gamekiller> see we are totaly opisit to each problem
[28-Jan-2008 17:08:42] <Gamekiller> did the graphs just work for you
[28-Jan-2008 17:25:32] <Gamekiller> crap i for got my zenoss user password lol
[28-Jan-2008 18:31:59] <twm1010> Does Zenoss use SNMP Informant OID's just for performance? Or are these used in the modeling process as well?
[28-Jan-2008 18:56:28] <flea> hiya
[28-Jan-2008 19:03:54] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[28-Jan-2008 19:13:51] <twm1010> howdy
[28-Jan-2008 19:14:04] <Gamekiller> ok i have not yet seen a good update doc for just plain old linux. I am running ubuntu and i am at 2.1 and want to go to 2.1.2. any one see a good doc out there
[28-Jan-2008 19:16:08] <twm1010> i thought there was a built-in script for doing that
[28-Jan-2008 19:17:04] <Gamekiller> to update
[28-Jan-2008 19:17:09] <Gamekiller> if there is share please
[28-Jan-2008 19:17:18] <jb__> is it possible to have a alert schedule that send alerts only on the weekends, and one that only send during the week?
[28-Jan-2008 19:20:48] <Gamekiller> where did you see the script twm1010
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:15] <twm1010> search the forums
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:21] <twm1010> its a python script i know that
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:26] <twm1010> at least i remember it being one
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:35] <twm1010> jb___ sure? Why not?
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:40] <twm1010> Create two users, or two user groups
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:49] <twm1010> each with a different schedule, and identical alerting rules
[28-Jan-2008 19:28:56] <twm1010> i mean, i don't see why not?
[28-Jan-2008 19:41:55] <q2srw77> Getting some errors in my Event Console from /Status/RRD "RRD files not updated" It lists all of the device that were renamed with there old names. I've checked zenperfsnmp log for errors and don't see any errors. Ideas?
[28-Jan-2008 20:11:07] <Gamekiller> i am having a really hard time adding a linux server to zenoss i can not get the snmpd.conf file setup right
[28-Jan-2008 20:11:24] <Gamekiller> i can get a local snmpwalk but not from the zenoss server to the server
[28-Jan-2008 20:29:23] <Bulwinkle> Gamekiller: make sure you're accepting SNMP requests from everything not just 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 20:30:06] <wam> How can I make that a down of a http service is a down of the device? I want the availability to be dependent on the http service.
[28-Jan-2008 20:40:31] <wam> Is there a more responsive mailing list?
[28-Jan-2008 20:44:23] <stefano_> someone expert in zenoss??
[28-Jan-2008 21:33:36] <Gamekiller> ok Belwinkle i look in to that
[28-Jan-2008 21:34:56] <stefano_> hi gamekiller
[28-Jan-2008 21:40:30] <Gamekiller> hi
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:01] <Gamekiller> so yah i only see that the client server is only listening to it self
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:04] <Gamekiller> hmm
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:37] <stefano_> game i dont understand what you say..
[28-Jan-2008 21:42:59] <stefano_> i dont understand english very well...
[28-Jan-2008 21:43:00] <Gamekiller> sorry i am very bad speller
[28-Jan-2008 21:43:11] <Gamekiller> what do you speak
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:07] <stefano_> client server see itself and not other pcs?
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:16] <stefano_> italian!
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:30] <Gamekiller> sorry one i do not know how to read i spanish and english
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:35] <Gamekiller> i have itailian in my blood
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:36] <Gamekiller> hehe
[28-Jan-2008 21:44:51] <Gamekiller> no client server is not talking to zenoss server
[28-Jan-2008 21:45:04] <Gamekiller> as it is only listening to 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:04] <stefano_> do you abilitate snmp in all machines?
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:08] <Gamekiller> trying to get my first linux server to be added to zenoss i have a lot of printers ans switchs
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:23] <stefano_> eheh!
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:35] <Gamekiller> well that is the problem i never configured snmp on linux before
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:41] <stefano_> i work from few time in a software house
[28-Jan-2008 21:46:45] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:01] <stefano_> in linux there are services!
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:08] <stefano_> calle snmpd
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:20] <stefano_> called sorry
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:39] <stefano_> in your server is abilitates snmp?
[28-Jan-2008 21:47:57] <Gamekiller> i have added snmpd
[28-Jan-2008 21:48:11] <Gamekiller> just the snmpd.conf not so clear to me on how to set it up
[28-Jan-2008 21:48:58] <Gamekiller> still not going to work
[28-Jan-2008 21:49:16] <Gamekiller> not sure what i am doing on my .conf file that is wrong
[28-Jan-2008 21:49:33] <stefano_> write this command /etc/init.d/snmpd.conf start
[28-Jan-2008 21:49:43] <stefano_> snmpd.conf start
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:07] <stefano_> sorry
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:19] <stefano_> inly snmpd start
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:19] <stefano_> not conf
[28-Jan-2008 21:50:36] <Gamekiller> yah i done that after i edit the snmpd.conf file but it only listening to 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:02] <Gamekiller> did a netstat -an | grep -i udp
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:15] <stefano_> yes but you have to active snmp also in other devices linked to server..!
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:18] <Gamekiller> i get port 161 listing to 127.0.0.1
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:26] <Gamekiller> i know
[28-Jan-2008 21:51:46] <Gamekiller> afk
[28-Jan-2008 21:52:11] <stefano_> i dont know
[28-Jan-2008 21:52:26] <stefano_> you are monitoring windows machines?
[28-Jan-2008 21:54:36] <stefano_> ah!
[28-Jan-2008 21:54:47] <stefano_> game are you started mysql??
[28-Jan-2008 21:56:13] <Gamekiller> stefano_: i am trying to have zenoss monitor my webserver
[28-Jan-2008 21:56:31] <Gamekiller> the webserver is a ubuntu linux box
[28-Jan-2008 21:56:44] <Gamekiller> so is zenoss but zenoss it self is running just fine
[28-Jan-2008 21:57:30] <stefano_> yes but you must to activate mysql!!
[28-Jan-2008 21:57:49] <stefano_> write /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:11] <Gamekiller> not on the client system
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:20] <stefano_> in server!
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:48] <Gamekiller> like i said server is fine
[28-Jan-2008 21:58:59] <stefano_> yes..
[28-Jan-2008 21:59:20] <stefano_> but without mysql server monitoring nothing
[28-Jan-2008 21:59:45] <Gamekiller> monitoring it not the problem it is getting the snmp data from the client
[28-Jan-2008 21:59:57] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 22:00:07] <stefano_> infact
[28-Jan-2008 22:00:24] <stefano_> you can add another ip device?
[28-Jan-2008 22:00:28] <Gamekiller> it my setting with net-snmp that i need to set on a client as right now it not letting external connections
[28-Jan-2008 22:01:11] <stefano_> do you are monitoring what?
[28-Jan-2008 22:01:42] <Gamekiller> well on this client i need to monitor httpd and disk usage
[28-Jan-2008 22:04:25] <stefano_> client with windows?
[28-Jan-2008 22:04:51] <jb__> whats the problem gamekiller?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:08] <Gamekiller> i can not find the right config for snmpd.conf
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:17] <jb__> can you snmpwalk it locally?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:23] <Gamekiller> yes fine
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:26] <Gamekiller> just not remote
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:29] <jb__> what happens when you do it remotely?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:31] <jb__> it times out?
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:35] <Gamekiller> yup
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:40] <Gamekiller> i did a netstat
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:49] <Gamekiller> on udp it bound to localhost
[28-Jan-2008 22:05:53] <Gamekiller> not to eth
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:00] <Gamekiller> or a network
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:08] <jb__> whats your com2sec line look like?
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:21] <Gamekiller> i copied that line for zenoss website
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:22] <jb__> stef: mysql has nothing to do with snmp..
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:36] <stefano_> jb when you finish with gamekiller can help me too?
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:51] <jb__> ask your question?.. people can't read your mind
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:56] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:06:59] <jb__> Game: paste it..
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:15] <Gamekiller> com2sec notConfigUser default public
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:32] <Gamekiller> that my com2sec line and the only one i comint out the rest
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:47] <jb__> and your access line?
[28-Jan-2008 22:07:57] <stefano_> i've setting snmp informant on windows, add permission to user and activated snmp and snmp windows service
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:24] <stefano_> i can see graphs in perf tab..
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:27] <jb__> Gamekiller: use this.. http://pastebin.ca/876581
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:33] <Gamekiller> is that the second one jb__
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:34] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 876581 (at pastebin.ca)
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:43] <jb__> Gamekiller: and make sure you don't have a firewall on the box that is blocking that port..
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:47] <stefano_> but i can't see os and hardware information
[28-Jan-2008 22:08:57] <stefano_> i have this error:
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:00] <Gamekiller> yah i know it dose not
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:06] <Gamekiller> it a webserver
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:10] <jb__> stef: what kind of server is this?
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:14] <stefano_> zenwin
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:14] <stefano_> /ÂStatus/ÂWmi/ÂConn
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:14] <stefano_> ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:25] <stefano_> is a linux server
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:29] <stefano_> centos
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:31] <jb__> dell or hp?
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:38] <jb__> or something else..
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:53] <stefano_> i dont remember..
[28-Jan-2008 22:09:55] <jb__> stefano: you said it was a windows server
[28-Jan-2008 22:10:44] <stefano_> my server is linux
[28-Jan-2008 22:10:48] <jb__> stefano: you aren't going to get hardware stats without installing an agent that provides them.. such as Dell OMSA or HP Insight
[28-Jan-2008 22:10:54] <stefano_> but the client is windows...!
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:13] <stefano_> i think is authentification error..
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:16] <jb__> you need windows snmp + snmp informant + an agent from the vendor such as OMSA
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:31] <stefano_> omsa?
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:36] <jb__> dell openmanage
[28-Jan-2008 22:11:43] <stefano_> where i can found it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:03] <jb__> you dont even know if you have a dell server?
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:05] <stefano_> i have to install it on windows?
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:33] <stefano_> jb: it is a compaq machines
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:35] <jb__> its only going to work on supported dell servers..
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:38] <jb__> well then its not going to work.
[28-Jan-2008 22:12:58] <stefano_> jb i dont'understand
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:07] <jb__> if its a compaq/HP SERVER (not a workstation).. look for HP Insight
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:14] <jb__> its software that you need to install on the windows box
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:25] <stefano_> but it is a workstation...
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:32] <jb__> can't help ya then..
[28-Jan-2008 22:13:39] <stefano_> is a normal pc connected to the net
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:05] <jb__> bbl
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:13] <stefano_> bbl?
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:17] <jb__> be back later..
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:28] <stefano_> ok..thanks!
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:33] <Gamekiller> jb__ still samething but now local walk dose not work
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:35] <Gamekiller> dang it
[28-Jan-2008 22:14:46] <stefano_> game
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:03] <stefano_> can you explain me somethink
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:21] <stefano_> i cant monitoring normal workastation??
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:31] <stefano_> a normal pc!?
[28-Jan-2008 22:15:39] <stefano_> i dont understand
[28-Jan-2008 22:19:57] <Gamekiller> that odd
[28-Jan-2008 22:20:14] <stefano_> ???
[28-Jan-2008 22:20:32] <twm1010> Yes, of course you can.
[28-Jan-2008 22:20:53] <twm1010> But if you're wanting to hit that workstation at a hardware level.
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:26] <twm1010> like see if... the north bridge on the motherboard is running hot
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:37] <twm1010> Zenoss will need a MIB to understand those traps!
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:53] <stefano_> i have installed snmp-informant mib?
[28-Jan-2008 22:21:56] <stefano_> !
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:06] <stefano_> it isn't right?
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:13] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:21] <twm1010> no, SNMP informant gets data from the operating system
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:31] <twm1010> like CPU load, memory, logical volumes, etc.
[28-Jan-2008 22:22:45] <twm1010> so a machine with that loaded can monitor those things.
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:03] <stefano_> but i cant monitoring nothing..
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:14] <stefano_> no cpu or memory..
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:27] <twm1010> Did you install SNMP Informant and set the SNMP configuration on the Windows machine?
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:28] <stefano_> i can see only graphs in perf tab..
[28-Jan-2008 22:23:43] <stefano_> yes infact i can see graphs ok!
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:17] <stefano_> and when i add this device it says tham snmp is ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:23] <stefano_> only this error in eventd
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:25] <stefano_> events
[28-Jan-2008 22:24:49] <stefano_> zenwin /ÂStatus/ÂWmi/ÂConn ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88).
[28-Jan-2008 22:25:35] <twm1010> Well the graphs will generate sometimes regardless of whether its getting data or not.
[28-Jan-2008 22:25:46] <twm1010> You're receiving that error, because its also trying to get information from the machine through WMI
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:10] <stefano_> right??
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:16] <twm1010> If you're looking at the device in Zenoss, click the zProperties tab, and scroll all the way to the bottom
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:16] <stefano_> so what i have to do?
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:28] <twm1010> You will see entries for zWinUser and zWinPassword
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:33] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:39] <twm1010> put in the username and password of administrator of that machine
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:48] <stefano_> so this is problem
[28-Jan-2008 22:26:57] <twm1010> it could be contributing
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:03] <stefano_> i've setting this but without resoults
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:13] <twm1010> though you shouldn't need the WMI configuration to get the performance data
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:26] <twm1010> it almost sounds to me like SNMP informant was not installed
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:32] <stefano_> so i have to disable wmi from windows?
[28-Jan-2008 22:27:44] <stefano_> snmp is installed
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:06] <twm1010> You installed the SNMP Service through Add/Remove programs correct?
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:11] <stefano_> i had downloaded it from snmp informant site
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:36] <twm1010> and then downloaded SNMP informant and installed that
[28-Jan-2008 22:28:55] <stefano_> yes..i've done both!!
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:13] <stefano_> twm..i think is a problem of authentification
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:36] <twm1010> Then you went to your Services console on the windows machine, went to the SNMP Service properties, hit the security tab, and configured the community name, and allowable hosts
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:50] <stefano_> yes i did it
[28-Jan-2008 22:29:54] <twm1010> specifying your community, and allowing the zenoss server, or all hosts to query
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:01] <twm1010> sound right?
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:15] <stefano_> i set all host
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:18] <stefano_> yes
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:28] <twm1010> and you set a community, was it read only ?
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:34] <twm1010> or are you using the default of "public"
[28-Jan-2008 22:30:54] <stefano_> yes i delete public and i insert my name community
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:12] <stefano_> no it is set read/write
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:17] <twm1010> thats fine.
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:22] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:33] <stefano_> now?
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:47] <twm1010> now, on the zenoss side, on the zProperties of the server
[28-Jan-2008 22:31:54] <stefano_> yes..
[28-Jan-2008 22:32:18] <twm1010> is your community there next to zSnmpCommunity ?
[28-Jan-2008 22:32:30] <stefano_> yes..!
[28-Jan-2008 22:32:58] <twm1010> and the windows username and password we verified earlier
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:08] <twm1010> Try restarting the SNMP Service on the Windows machine
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:24] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:51] <twm1010> Then, come back to Zenoss, click the triangular contextual drop down, go to manage, and choose model device
[28-Jan-2008 22:33:59] <stefano_> ok!
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:06] <stefano_> i've this
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:13] <twm1010> you've done all this?
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:41] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:44 INFO zen.Device device name 'MANCA' for ip '192.168.0.201'
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:44 INFO zen.Device setting status monitor to ['localhost']
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:44 INFO zen.Device setting performance monitor to localhost
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:45 INFO zen.Device Executing command: /opt/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler run --now -F -d MANCA --weblog
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:42] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:53 INFO zen.ZenModeler starting collector loop
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:45] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:53 INFO zen.ZenModeler collecting for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:47] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:49] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:51] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap, DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.CpuMap, HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap, HPDeviceMap
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:56] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:54 INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:34:58] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:56 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:00] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:56 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:02] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:04] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing DellCPUMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:06] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap for device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:08] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 ERROR zen.ApplyDataMap plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device MANCA
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:10] <stefano_> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship changed = self._createRelObje
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:11] <twm1010> good, its getting the data
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:17] <stefano_> ok...
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:21] <twm1010> wait...
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:27] <twm1010> that last statement is a filaure
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:40] <twm1010> Ok, screw this. Delete the device
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:43] <twm1010> and re-add it.
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:46] <stefano_> yes i think also..
[28-Jan-2008 22:35:51] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:01] <stefano_> i have done this many times
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:11] <stefano_> but i have the same error message..
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:15] <twm1010> Are you using the Zenoss virtual machine download?
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:19] <stefano_> no..
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:20] <twm1010> or did you build a linux server for it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:36:29] <stefano_> a linux server centos
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:19] <stefano_> i've download the last version
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:36] <twm1010> Well the problem is going out of my knowledge realm here.
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:38] <stefano_> i have to use cvs or is it the same?
[28-Jan-2008 22:37:48] <twm1010> It's not your windows configuration, that is absolutely correct.
[28-Jan-2008 22:38:26] <twm1010> I would say maybe the Zenoss database did not get created properly, do any other pages load up similar errors?
[28-Jan-2008 22:38:42] <twm1010> settings pages, and such?
[28-Jan-2008 22:38:56] <stefano_> linux machines loaded are ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:09] <stefano_> it haven't this messages..
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:32] <stefano_> no other page whit this errors..
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:37] <stefano_> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship changed = self._createRelObject(device, objmap, rname) File "/o
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:37] <stefano_> pt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 308, in _createRelObject self._updateObject(remoteObj, objmap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 227, in _updateObject value.encode('ascii') UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe0' in position 61: ordinal not in range(128)
[28-Jan-2008 22:39:53] <stefano_> unicode encode error??
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:07] <twm1010> I can't be sure honestly.
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:16] <twm1010> It's probably something simple though.
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:34] <stefano_> do you use cvs download?
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:43] <twm1010> When generating reports, sometimes.
[28-Jan-2008 22:40:53] <twm1010> you mean CSV?
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:24] <stefano_> sorry
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:29] <twm1010> ah.... i see what you refer to now
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:31] <stefano_> svn
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:35] <twm1010> no, I'm not familiar
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:44] <stefano_> i had installed centos rpm...
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:48] <twm1010> I built my Linux system using the VMWare image
[28-Jan-2008 22:41:51] <stefano_> what do you use?
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:06] <stefano_> and do you use rmp?
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:12] <twm1010> no, it comes pre-built.
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:21] <stefano_> ah ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:28] <stefano_> i dont know what to do..
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:33] <twm1010> as an appliance, you just throw it on a VMWare host machine, give it 512 -1gb ram, and set the IP address
[28-Jan-2008 22:42:43] <twm1010> Are you just evaluating Zenoss? To see if you like it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:04] <stefano_> no..i have a project with a software house
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:13] <twm1010> Hrmm...
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:16] <stefano_> they wanted monitoring
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:30] <stefano_> all them machines of the net..
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:31] <twm1010> Well, post your problem to the community forum then. State that you have trouble modeling windows devices
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:36] <twm1010> and post the trace
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:42] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:43] <stefano_> thanks
[28-Jan-2008 22:43:46] <twm1010> and perhaps on the Zenoss admins will help you.
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:06] <twm1010> and hang out here from time to time, quite a few of them are in and out of here.
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:19] <stefano_> you think that i cant monitoring for this problem?
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:19] <twm1010> rakatzenoss is one, cluther is another, they're very good.
[28-Jan-2008 22:44:49] <twm1010> No Zenoss is up to the task I can assure you. I have it monitoring 10 windows 2003 terminal servers, an exchange server and about 15 other windows servers
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:10] <twm1010> It's helping us nail down and find a lot of issues with DNS, Active directory replication, etc.
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:26] <twm1010> It's good software, but it has an extremely steep learning curve.
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:31] <stefano_> so..i think that i have insert wrong zwinuser
[28-Jan-2008 22:45:51] <stefano_> can be??
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:11] <stefano_> when i go in wmi settings
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:25] <stefano_> i see that the users are
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:41] <stefano_> MANCA\Administrators
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:55] <twm1010> Thats a group
[28-Jan-2008 22:46:56] <stefano_> but there isn't password
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:05] <twm1010> you need to select a user
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:11] <twm1010> MANCA\Administrator would be fine
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:18] <stefano_> so i added a user
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:19] <twm1010> or just Administrator, if the account is not a domain account
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:27] <stefano_> MANCA\stefano
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:30] <twm1010> ok, but that user needs administrative privileges
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:34] <stefano_> and i set a password
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:45] <stefano_> yes i have set privileges
[28-Jan-2008 22:47:52] <twm1010> just put in stefano for now
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:02] <stefano_> .\stefano
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:06] <stefano_> or stefano?
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:12] <twm1010> try just stefano first
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:15] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:18] <twm1010> if that gives you grief try .\
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:30] <stefano_> yes i have did it
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:38] <stefano_> but i have the same mistake...
[28-Jan-2008 22:48:53] <twm1010> I don't think its an authentication issue myself.
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:00] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:04] <stefano_> so..
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:19] <twm1010> The script is clearly failing trying to store device information back into the zenoss database
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:21] <stefano_> but whi can i see graphs in perf tab??
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:25] <stefano_> sorry why
[28-Jan-2008 22:49:51] <twm1010> because enough data WAS stored to get it moving
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:23] <stefano_> twm sorry i dont understand what you said
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:25] <twm1010> Let's try something, out of curiousity. hit the manage menu, and rename the device
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:30] <stefano_> my bad english..
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:31] <twm1010> then try and model it again.
[28-Jan-2008 22:50:36] <twm1010> You're doing alright.
[28-Jan-2008 22:51:20] <stefano_> i no..same error
[28-Jan-2008 22:51:49] <stefano_> sorry..but i events i can see turn on and turn off pc...
[28-Jan-2008 22:52:02] <stefano_> when i turn on or of pc
[28-Jan-2008 22:52:10] <stefano_> the graphs are right
[28-Jan-2008 22:52:34] <stefano_> they are monitoring live what pc does...
[28-Jan-2008 22:53:29] <stefano_> so for zenoss authenification is ok..right??
[28-Jan-2008 22:56:51] <twm1010> The graphs are actually showing data?
[28-Jan-2008 22:56:55] <stefano_> yes!
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:03] <twm1010> Then what's the problem?!
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:19] <stefano_> i cant see hardware pc
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:27] <stefano_> or os information
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:27] <twm1010> What kind of PC is it?
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:36] <stefano_> a compaq...
[28-Jan-2008 22:57:40] <twm1010> OS information comes from the WMI modeling, which is what is currently crashing.
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:00] <twm1010> Hardware information will be whatever zenoss can get from the host-resources mib
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:33] <twm1010> If you've not installed any manufacturer based software that extends hardware information to the Windows SNMP, then Zenoss cannot pull it
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:48] <twm1010> Like Dell OpenManage, or HP Insight Agents
[28-Jan-2008 22:58:56] <twm1010> if this is a desktop PC, you may be out of luck
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:15] <stefano_> twm in snmp informant
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:29] <twm1010> SNMP informant is for performance data
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:30] <stefano_> before install snmp informant
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:32] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:35] <twm1010> and is made by a 3rd party
[28-Jan-2008 22:59:38] <stefano_> i have download this
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:04] <twm1010> if you're monitoring a compaq server, you need the Compaq/HP Insight Agents installed
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:15] <twm1010> zenoss 2.1.2 comes with some support to pull data from those agents
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:47] <twm1010> I can't stay any longer, I got off work 90 minutes ago. I'll be back here 7:00AM EST tomorrow!
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:50] <twm1010> good luck
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:58] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:00:59] <Gamekiller> is there an easy way to upgrade 2.1 to 2.1.2
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:10] <stefano_> i'm going to sleep
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:23] <stefano_> here are 12:00 am
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:27] <stefano_> !!
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:43] <twm1010> where are you?
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:47] <stefano_> italy
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:51] <stefano_> twm white
[28-Jan-2008 23:01:57] <stefano_> i,ve installed this
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:08] <stefano_> Live Wire dev
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:30] <stefano_> is a tool for identify mainboard
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:47] <twm1010> Ahh, but Zenoss is not setup to collect information from that software
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:57] <stefano_> ohhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
[28-Jan-2008 23:02:58] <stefano_> so??
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:02] <twm1010> You see Zenoss asks SNMP for information, but it has to know what to ask it for!
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:22] <stefano_> no........
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:23] <twm1010> It comes pre-built to get some data from SNMP Informant, and some Dell and HP softwares...
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:53] <stefano_> where i can find other pcs software?
[28-Jan-2008 23:03:57] <stefano_> like compac
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:01] <stefano_> acer..
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:02] <twm1010> www.compaq.com
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:02] <stefano_> asus?
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:05] <twm1010> www.acer.com
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:10] <twm1010> its all manufacturer support
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:23] <stefano_> it comes with default driver?
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:28] <twm1010> the manufacturer needs to provide SNMP support via mibs and system extensions...
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:34] <stefano_> ok ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:36] <stefano_> thanks!!
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:40] <twm1010> Zenoss can only gather data if the client system knows about it.
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:47] <KillMeNow> you all have any good docs on how to properly set up services monitoring and alerting? like service goes down, zenoss pops an email
[28-Jan-2008 23:04:56] <twm1010> Thats why you need SNMP informant?
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:05] <twm1010> KillMeNow: did you try the manual?
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:11] <twm1010> Its long and boring, but its in there.
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:14] <KillMeNow> what? RTFM?
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:19] <KillMeNow> tell me it's not so!
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:19] <twm1010>
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:30] <stefano_> so i cant use snmp informant??
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:34] <KillMeNow> yea, been looking at it and TBH, i'm not getting it
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:46] <stefano_> but i can also use snmp of manufacturer??
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:49] <KillMeNow> was hoping someone has a simple, step by step walk through
[28-Jan-2008 23:05:57] <KillMeNow> so i can see how it works
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:02] <stefano_> without informant?
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:10] <twm1010> stefano: SNMP informant has a specific purpose, so that Zenoss can monitor CPU, Memory, and disk utilization of Windows systems.
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:26] <stefano_> ok..
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:27] <twm1010> it is used for nothing else, not to get the speed of the CPUs or the temperature of them, or anyhting else like that
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:34] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:38] <twm1010> it is in there for PERFORMANCE
[28-Jan-2008 23:06:44] <KillMeNow> there is an add on that can get you the temp / cpu fan speed etc as well, but can't remember the name
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:04] <twm1010> if you want it to model hardware, then you the hardware manufacturer must provide you MIBS, and SNMP extensions for the host OS
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:05] <KillMeNow> of course, you need to know the manufacturer of the mother board
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:07] <stefano_> but if i cant see disk utilization or memory there are some problems..rights?
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:29] <stefano_> i speak with snmp informant
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:34] <KillMeNow> if memory usage (paging) stays high for X number of minute perhaps
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:44] <twm1010> Yes stefano, you can't see those things because while your WMI authentication is good, your WMI modeling of the server is not working correctly.
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:53] <twm1010> post your issue to the forum
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:54] <KillMeNow> ok, AFK a moment
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:57] <KillMeNow> back in a few
[28-Jan-2008 23:07:59] <stefano_> ok
[28-Jan-2008 23:08:07] <stefano_> thanks twm
[28-Jan-2008 23:08:11] <stefano_> see you!!
[28-Jan-2008 23:08:13] <twm1010> KillMeNow, i'll jump on from home in an hour, i'll see i can help you.
[28-Jan-2008 23:10:00] <flea> is snmp the only means of discovery for core 2.1 ?
[28-Jan-2008 23:23:41] <kinections> how does zenoss handle dual boot systems?
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:12] <flea> how would zenoss know about the other os ?
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:18] <KillMeNow> thanks TWM
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:20] <flea> only if its running right
[28-Jan-2008 23:24:35] <KillMeNow> talk to you in a bit
[28-Jan-2008 23:25:00] <kinections> flea: what do you mean?
[28-Jan-2008 23:25:12] <flea> kinections: what do .you. mean?
[28-Jan-2008 23:26:07] <kinections> flea: well, i'm wondering if zenoss could monitor a computer lab and watch for logins and such. Some of the machines are dual boot, so I'm wondering if it would show that as two seperate machines or one machine.
[28-Jan-2008 23:27:29] <flea> kinections: i see, well, they should have two different snmp feedback but i don't know how it would report
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[29-Jan-2008 01:09:33] <KillMeNow> twm1010, you around?
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[29-Jan-2008 13:15:04] <twm1010> conary is evil :|
[29-Jan-2008 13:15:13] <twm1010> anyone good with linux and proxies?
[29-Jan-2008 13:56:15] <twm1010> nevermind... got it
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:32] <stefano_> i've this error when i add a device
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:36] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 ERROR zen.ApplyDataMap plugin zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap device MANCA
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:36] <stefano_> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 100, in processClient changed = self._applyDataMap(device, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 141, in _applyDataMap changed = self._updateRelationship(tobj, datamap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 176, in _updateRelationship changed = self._createRel
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:36] <stefano_> Object(device, objmap, rname) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 308, in _createRelObject self._updateObject(remoteObj, objmap) File "/opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/ApplyDataMap.py", line 227, in _updateObject value.encode('ascii') UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe0' in position 61: ordinal not in range(128)
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:39] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ZenModeler scan time: 4.95 seconds
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:43] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:35:58 INFO zen.ZenModeler stopping...
[29-Jan-2008 14:05:45] <stefano_> 2008-01-23 18:36:00 INFO zen.DeviceLoader
[29-Jan-2008 14:06:21] <stefano_> someone can help me?
[29-Jan-2008 14:06:59] <q2srw77> Getting some errors in my Event Console from /Status/RRD "RRD files not updated" It lists all of the device that were renamed with there old names. I've checked zenperfsnmp log for errors and don't see any errors. Ideas?
[29-Jan-2008 14:55:13] <jb__> hrm, I am trying to change the severity of "SNMP agent down/up" events, but can't seem to locate the actual event. it says it is mapped to /Status/SNMP, but when I browse here, there are no events
[29-Jan-2008 15:18:11] <q2srw77> You should be able to change the zProperties on the /Status/SNMP and make the zEventSeverity what you want it to be. You can also use Map Events to Class in Event Console.
[29-Jan-2008 15:18:59] <q2srw77> Select the event and then Map Event to Class /Status/SNMP - Now when you go into /status/snmp you'll see the event and change change it
[29-Jan-2008 15:32:38] <jb__> ah its in the zprops
[29-Jan-2008 15:32:40] <jb__> thanks
[29-Jan-2008 15:43:04] <jb__> now, I just need to get rid of this stale event in the "Device Issues" portlet.. it says 0 events but it still stays there
[29-Jan-2008 16:19:18] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[29-Jan-2008 18:38:58] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[29-Jan-2008 18:52:20] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[29-Jan-2008 20:11:51] <kinections> Is it possible to associate two OS's to a single machine in Zenoss?
[29-Jan-2008 20:12:00] <kinections> for computers taht are dual boot
[29-Jan-2008 20:22:27] <telexicon> kinections, you might want to treat them as separate entities
[29-Jan-2008 21:22:50] <stefano_> hi guys!
[29-Jan-2008 21:27:31] <kinections> telexicon: i want to be able to track which OS users log into when they sit down at a dual boot machine, would I be able to do that?
[29-Jan-2008 21:29:54] <stefano_> kinections: i would to know the answer of your question too..
[29-Jan-2008 21:31:01] <kinections> what?
[29-Jan-2008 21:31:15] <kinections> oh
[29-Jan-2008 21:31:15] <kinections> nvm
[29-Jan-2008 21:32:50] <jy007> I have a question, I have downloaded the Zenpacks to a cd and the drive is mounted in the vmware zenoss but I am unable to see anything on the disc, am I doing this the hard way to install the zenpacks?
[29-Jan-2008 21:49:09] <msw> jy007: you should be able to download the zenpack .zip file to your workstation, and upload them via the web admin ui
[29-Jan-2008 21:57:34] <jy007> oh
[29-Jan-2008 21:58:51] <jy007> so the RPM package would need a linux box and not a vmware one
[29-Jan-2008 22:00:39] <jy007> that did it, I can't beleive I over looked that option, DOH!
[29-Jan-2008 22:03:00] <telexicon> a vmware what?
[29-Jan-2008 22:06:20] <jy007> install of Zenoss
[29-Jan-2008 22:12:11] <johns55> so im doing a the portscan template to monitor a device, after modeling the device it only shows up as ssh and http open
[29-Jan-2008 22:12:19] <johns55> however sendmail and mysql is also listening
[29-Jan-2008 22:12:25] <johns55> is there a reason why this isnt being modeled?
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[30-Jan-2008 01:11:19] <Snake-eyes> Any one know how or where zenoss grabs the time from when sending email out ?
[30-Jan-2008 01:13:44] <Snake-eyes> I'm getting emails dated in the future yet date on the machine is correct and apps sending email from same box have correct timestamps
[30-Jan-2008 01:53:54] <Snake-eyes> damn symlink
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[30-Jan-2008 16:16:01] <jb__> anyone know how to get rid of a device thats "stuck" in the device issues portlet?.. it has no events
[30-Jan-2008 18:55:35] <flea> possibly a nob question, but where do ppl get mibs for devices ?
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:21] <jerris> Anybody get this error in their Locations (Google Maps) portlet?
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:38] <jerris> Site error
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:38] <jerris> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist.
[30-Jan-2008 19:12:38] <jerris> Please click here to return to the Zenoss dashboard
[30-Jan-2008 19:43:06] <_LoneCrow> Anyone know of a good site with a good set of instructions on how to get this going on centos?
[30-Jan-2008 19:47:45] <msw> _LoneCrow: why not just use the VMware version?
[30-Jan-2008 20:31:00] <_LoneCrow> was thinking of doing that.. but I don't have a vmserver
[30-Jan-2008 20:33:58] <msw> _LoneCrow: you can give it a try on player
[30-Jan-2008 20:36:32] <_LoneCrow> I'm kinda new to vmware .. do they have a player for windows?
[30-Jan-2008 20:37:09] <_LoneCrow> I sort of want to install it on a linux box here and test out the graphing. Having a hard time with cacti doing what I want it to do etc, and I hear this program is the bomb.
[30-Jan-2008 20:37:23] <_LoneCrow> I was drooling at the demo
[30-Jan-2008 20:56:24] <msw> _LoneCrow: yup, VMware runs on Mac, Linux, Windows
[30-Jan-2008 20:56:45] <msw> _LoneCrow: the VMware version is running on Linux inside VMware
[30-Jan-2008 21:01:52] <_LoneCrow> So in essense its sorta like parallels but for linux.. so I need to find the vmware server for windows, then run the vmware version of zenoss...
[30-Jan-2008 21:02:02] <_LoneCrow> Must need an insane amount of ram for all that.
[30-Jan-2008 21:02:59] <_LoneCrow> Don't you need to buy the software for windows? or is it open source?
[30-Jan-2008 21:05:16] <msw> _LoneCrow: VMware? You can use it for free
[30-Jan-2008 21:06:03] <_LoneCrow> ahh cool thanks
[30-Jan-2008 21:06:15] <_LoneCrow> just looking at the vmware site looks like they charge for some of it
[30-Jan-2008 21:08:11] <_LoneCrow> So I just need vmware for windows.. not server
[30-Jan-2008 21:10:24] <_LoneCrow> sorry to be a pain.. so ok I think I found it.. vmware server for windows. Once I install that, then I just sorta snap or open the file for zenoss?
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:06] <jerris> Let me get you a howto....
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:29] <jerris> http://www.webaj.com/zenoss-2-0-core-installation-guide-centos-looks-network-and-server-monitoring-has-gone-web-2-0.htm
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:36] <jerris> There you go.
[30-Jan-2008 21:14:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss 2.0 core installation guide for CentOS. Looks like network and server monitoring has gone web 2.0 | webAJ.com (at www.webaj.com)
[30-Jan-2008 21:15:56] <jerris> vmware server can be used for free, you just have to request a serial.
[30-Jan-2008 21:16:34] <_LoneCrow> ahhh ok thanks
[30-Jan-2008 21:17:01] <jerris> They have an ESX (enterprise) version that runs on its own micro-kernel and that costs some big bucks, but the other versions you can download for free and they work great.
[30-Jan-2008 21:17:36] <_LoneCrow> No this is more of a trial thing. I just want to demo zenoss on our nework and see how well it graphs our servers, and wireless accesss points, clients etc..
[30-Jan-2008 21:18:37] <jerris> I'd goof around with the vm stuff too at some point. A lot of stuff is heading to virtualization now-a-days.
[30-Jan-2008 21:18:39] <_LoneCrow> We mostly use trango and its been a royal pain graphing them in any program because our subsriber units are polled from an access point. Therefore you have to manually create custom queries for each bloody user, and it never works right..
[30-Jan-2008 21:19:31] <jerris> You'll like Zenoss. It's still got a few qwerks, but not nearly as much as the others. Much more easy to configure than Nagios in my opinion.
[30-Jan-2008 21:19:45] <jerris> And it's got an active development community.
[30-Jan-2008 21:19:49] <_LoneCrow> But the guy who works for us who is back in school is getting hard for ajax so this might be up his alley
[30-Jan-2008 21:20:29] <_LoneCrow> He wants to develop ajax stuff so working with zenoss might be what he'd like, and make it easier for us noobs in tech support
[30-Jan-2008 21:36:31] <_LoneCrow> just realized have to have IIS installed to install vmware server.. doh, I don't have a spare 2003 server to install this on, just workstations..
[30-Jan-2008 21:38:22] <_LoneCrow> the centos install page is damn good tho
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[30-Jan-2008 22:36:59] <_LoneCrow> Well I followed the instructions. I have a centos install basically called cactiez with cacti, net snmp mysql all that installed already. So I made a new dir in var/www/html/zenoss and copied the rpm there, tried to cd to the rpm ike it said..
[30-Jan-2008 22:38:24] <_LoneCrow> said I was missing some dependencies, libc.o.6 libcrypto.so.6 libssl.so.6
[30-Jan-2008 22:40:37] <_LoneCrow> rtld as well
[30-Jan-2008 22:40:45] <_LoneCrow> anyone know which rpm I need to get those dependencies?
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[31-Jan-2008 01:12:06] <johns55> how much system resource does it use if i run snmp on a system that is being monitored
[31-Jan-2008 01:33:00] <KillMeNow> anyone here?
[31-Jan-2008 01:38:56] <johns55> wzp
[31-Jan-2008 01:38:58] <johns55> kill
[31-Jan-2008 01:38:59] <johns55> me now
[31-Jan-2008 01:40:31] <KillMeNow> howdy
[31-Jan-2008 01:40:56] <KillMeNow> i had a server in maintenance setting... i have since removed it and now it won't go back in to production state?
[31-Jan-2008 01:41:32] <KillMeNow> under administration it doesn't have anything listed for maintenance, it's empty but it's still showing up in the main display as being in maintenance
[31-Jan-2008 01:41:37] <KillMeNow> suggestions?
[31-Jan-2008 01:43:27] <johns55> by removing it what do ui mean exactly
[31-Jan-2008 01:43:32] <johns55> you set it back to production?
[31-Jan-2008 01:43:55] <KillMeNow> i select the maintenance portion from device administration and delete it
[31-Jan-2008 01:44:01] <KillMeNow> was i supposed to do something different?
[31-Jan-2008 01:44:35] <johns55> to put a machine in maintenance mode i usually, select it, then from the pull down menu, set production state
[31-Jan-2008 01:44:48] <KillMeNow> hrm, lemme check that
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:25] <KillMeNow> crapzor... gotta reboot... but anyways, from /devices/server/windows/<servername> click the down drop and select administration... from there is a menu called "Maintenance Windows"
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:42] <KillMeNow> I created a maintenance window and when it was over i deleted it
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:49] <KillMeNow> but it's still showing in maintenance
[31-Jan-2008 01:46:52] <KillMeNow> i'll brb
[31-Jan-2008 01:47:05] <johns55> can u try to force production
[31-Jan-2008 01:47:18] <KillMeNow> don't know how to do that... i'm still pretty new w/ zenoss...
[31-Jan-2008 01:47:22] <KillMeNow> i'll BRB
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[31-Jan-2008 14:18:57] <twm1010> anyone know the syntax for zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[31-Jan-2008 14:18:58] <twm1010> ?
[31-Jan-2008 14:24:05] <twm1010> nevermind
[31-Jan-2008 14:41:14] <_LoneCrow> Ran the install for centos last night.. said I was missing some dependencies, libc.o.6 libcrypto.so.6 libssl.so.6
[31-Jan-2008 14:41:46] <_LoneCrow> glibc_2.4 and gnu_hash.. been looking all over to find out which packages I'd need to install to get those dependencies..
[31-Jan-2008 14:44:36] <twm1010> did you try yum install libc* ?
[31-Jan-2008 14:46:59] <duncan> what would be casuing these erroneous alerts: blade1.remotelabs.com vmnic1 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 33.51 -- blade1.remotelabs.com vmnic1 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1445.24
[31-Jan-2008 14:47:22] <twm1010> I believe it creates a virtual nic to exchange data with the virtual machine
[31-Jan-2008 14:47:35] <twm1010> I went to the device class my ESX boxes are in, zProperties
[31-Jan-2008 14:48:28] <twm1010> and in zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames I added vmnic
[31-Jan-2008 14:49:02] <twm1010> then remodeled the ESX servers
[31-Jan-2008 14:49:06] <twm1010> and it removed that interface
[31-Jan-2008 14:49:40] <twm1010> I believe that is a virtual interface for doing NAT maybe?
[31-Jan-2008 14:54:28] <_LoneCrow> Yeah tried yum install libc but not the *
[31-Jan-2008 14:55:09] <_LoneCrow> Seems to be installing quite a bit ... lets see..
[31-Jan-2008 14:57:54] <duncan> twm1010: thanks I'll give that a shot
[31-Jan-2008 14:57:56] <_LoneCrow> nope didnt work soon as I rpm -Uvh zenoss2.0.0-0.el5,i386.rpm it givs me the same errors - failed dependencies: libc.o.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by zenoss-2.0 yada yada
[31-Jan-2008 14:58:15] <_LoneCrow> maybe after the libs installed it needs a reboot? usually it shouldnt..
[31-Jan-2008 14:59:51] <twm1010> nah, shouldn't need a reboot
[31-Jan-2008 15:00:29] <twm1010> hold on a sec
[31-Jan-2008 15:00:42] <twm1010> when i ran centos there was a command i ran that took care of all dependencies
[31-Jan-2008 15:01:25] <twm1010> run this yum -y install mysql mysql-server net-snmp net-snmp-utils gmp
[31-Jan-2008 15:02:09] <twm1010> get the feeling that should bring with it everything you need
[31-Jan-2008 15:02:24] <_LoneCrow> did that one
[31-Jan-2008 15:02:30] <_LoneCrow> although the gmp one I didnt do
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:01] <jb_> hrmf.. hey twm1010, I still can't get these alert schedules right
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:23] <jb_> i thought I had it..
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:31] <_LoneCrow> this is a cactiez cd with mysql and cacti, nagios, ntop and a whole bunch of stuff all ready to go. But I ran that command..
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:35] <twm1010> Go into the GUI on your centos box add/remove software, and add the "development" libraries
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:51] <_LoneCrow> do the services need to be stopped if I already have net-snmp installed, mysql etc?
[31-Jan-2008 15:03:56] <twm1010> nope
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:06] <_LoneCrow> no gui on this..
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:12] <twm1010> hrmmm....
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:28] <twm1010> could swear you said this was CentOS
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:30] <_LoneCrow> don't want to install one either.. going to try the gmp now though
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:35] <twm1010> ok
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:38] <_LoneCrow> centos yes
[31-Jan-2008 15:04:57] <twm1010> jb_: you created two groups
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:01] <_LoneCrow> Its just a cli server install with bare min stuff like mysql snmp cacti php etc..
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:03] <twm1010> with identical rules ?
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:11] <jb_> twm: i have two alerts
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:11] <twm1010> and different schedules?
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:18] <jb_> i want one alert to always occur
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:37] <jb_> i have another alert that has: Start: 17:30 (5:30PM), Duration: 13 hours
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:47] <jb_> so that should go from 5:30 to 6:30AM
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:49] <jb_> right?
[31-Jan-2008 15:05:58] <twm1010> 1730 to 630 yes
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:00] <_LoneCrow> did a yum install gmp and nothing to do...
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:33] <twm1010> lonecrow: i think your just missing the dev libraries, i don't know how to get those from the CLI, i almost always did a full install with CentOS
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:38] <twm1010> so everything was already there
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:45] <jb_> twm: well for some reason that alert was occuring all day, not only at those hours
[31-Jan-2008 15:06:46] <twm1010> try yum install glib*
[31-Jan-2008 15:07:17] <_LoneCrow> ahhh ok thanks for the help. I was hoping to get both cacti and zenoss running on the same box.. and this cactiez install is just too good with all the plugins already set up to do another full install and starting from scratch..
[31-Jan-2008 15:07:42] <twm1010> lonecrow: do you have hardware that could handle a virtual machine?
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:01] <_LoneCrow> trying
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:03] <twm1010> i ran zenoss as a VM on my own workstation for quite a while
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:13] <_LoneCrow> not really.. this is just a bare bones emachine with 1g of ram
[31-Jan-2008 15:08:26] <_LoneCrow> I was looking into doing the vmware stuff
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:05] <twm1010> I'm looking at this now... I think the way you do it is a little weird
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:14] <twm1010> because I don't understand how the enabling/disabling works
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:22] <twm1010> the alert itself can be enabled/disabled
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:32] <twm1010> but the schedule can set those too
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:50] <jb_> yeah its strange
[31-Jan-2008 15:09:51] <twm1010> so I'm thinking, maybe you do the opposite, instead of saying when it SHOULD send alerts, perhaps you define when it should NOT
[31-Jan-2008 15:10:00] <jb_> hmm
[31-Jan-2008 15:10:17] <twm1010> readin the manual, maybe its in there
[31-Jan-2008 15:10:20] <_LoneCrow> workstation meaning windows? I downloaded he server but you need IIS to run it.. and i dont have Windows 2000 server handy yet
[31-Jan-2008 15:11:45] <_LoneCrow> I also reran the yum install mysql mysql-server net snmp net snmputils gmp (with correct spelling etc) and "nothing to do"
[31-Jan-2008 15:11:46] <_LoneCrow> dang
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:12] <_LoneCrow> well I could yum install gnome..
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:21] <twm1010> you can run IIS 5.0 on XP
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:36] <twm1010> nah, don't bother installing the GUI
[31-Jan-2008 15:12:45] <twm1010> hold on
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:07] <_LoneCrow> didnt know you could run iis 5.0 .. hmmm I'm about to rebuilt a shop PC soon too, maybe I'll put IIS on it..
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:22] <twm1010> ya, just hit Add/Remove programs, IIS is in there
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:43] <_LoneCrow> I was just hoping to get all of our basic polling snmp type software cacti, ntop, zenoss etc all running on one computer..
[31-Jan-2008 15:13:55] <_LoneCrow> XP pro or home?
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:00] <twm1010> pro only probably
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:11] <_LoneCrow> thats my problem lol
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:36] <twm1010> try this... for shits and giggles
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:49] <twm1010> yum groupinstall "Development Libaries"
[31-Jan-2008 15:14:51] <_LoneCrow> I am going to buy a pro copy because I need oen anyway..
[31-Jan-2008 15:15:43] <_LoneCrow> caps make a diff?
[31-Jan-2008 15:15:50] <twm1010> its linux, so most likely
[31-Jan-2008 15:15:54] <_LoneCrow> yep looks like it did
[31-Jan-2008 15:16:08] <twm1010> might be quite a few packages in that command
[31-Jan-2008 15:17:56] <_LoneCrow> yep quite a bit.. and I see some in there that might be related
[31-Jan-2008 15:18:44] <_LoneCrow> thx for the help btw
I really want to try out zenoss badly on our equipment and network ajax looks great and our programmer wants to really dive into it[31-Jan-2008 15:18:56] <twm1010> Zenoss may negate your need for Cacti
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:05] <jb_> twm: so you think I should switch the rules?
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:07] <_LoneCrow> exactly
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:11] <twm1010> jb: still reading
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:19] <jb_> yeah I read it, but its not very clear
[31-Jan-2008 15:19:58] <_LoneCrow> zenoss looks like a much better interface all around.. so once I get this running and if it does everything we need, we'll probably dive in and purchase hardware just to run it to manage everything in our network, probably 1000 devices or so
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:09] <_LoneCrow> SOH
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:10] <_LoneCrow> DOH
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:23] <_LoneCrow> No go..
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:23] <jb_> zenoss has much more capability than cacti
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:36] <_LoneCrow> looks like it.. if I could just get a copy running so I can see for myself lol!
[31-Jan-2008 15:20:57] <jb_> im displaying the dashboard with the google maps portal on one of our monitoring plasmas here and everybody thinks its super cool
[31-Jan-2008 15:21:03] <_LoneCrow> I might just do a centos 5.1 net install on this box and follow the specific instructions from scratch
[31-Jan-2008 15:26:56] <duncan> how can I remove a monitored component from a device? I can re-model the device but the smtp component still shows in the list and is always down (because it doesn't exist)
[31-Jan-2008 15:28:40] <_LoneCrow> hey.. let me give you an example of what we want to do.. can you tell me if zenoss can do this.. first off. We have some procurve switches .. eventually we'll be vlanning but thats besides the point. I just want to graph and monitor the traffic on each port of that switch. I can do that with cacti with the generic cisco router template.. Is it easy to set up such devices?
[31-Jan-2008 15:29:13] <twm1010> Lonecrow: just run the VMWare player
[31-Jan-2008 15:29:23] <twm1010> works fine
[31-Jan-2008 15:29:44] <_LoneCrow> Also we have all sorts of radios, routers, access points bridges, servers etc.. (wireless ISP) brand names from Trango, to Tranzeo.. some with snmp and some without
[31-Jan-2008 15:30:34] <_LoneCrow> Oh there is just a vmware player for windows?
[31-Jan-2008 15:30:41] <twm1010> yep
[31-Jan-2008 15:30:58] <twm1010> not as robust as server, and you'd have to leave it up all the time, but it works fine
[31-Jan-2008 15:34:17] <_LoneCrow> Leave it up? Meaning it has to be loaded all the time to use zenoss.. thats ok once I'm done testing zenoss I can kill the program right or is it a service thats always running?
[31-Jan-2008 15:34:27] <_LoneCrow> my laptop has 1g memory so I can't go nuts lol
[31-Jan-2008 15:34:49] <twm1010> Hrmm...
[31-Jan-2008 15:35:02] <twm1010> i gave zenoss a gig of ram, probably more than is needed for a demo
[31-Jan-2008 15:46:47] <_LoneCrow> may have to reboot installing now
[31-Jan-2008 15:47:55] <duncan> once I have added custom mibs with zenmib, how can I implement them into the performance and threshold template?
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:16] <twm1010> duncan, thats a long winded question
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:24] <duncan> hehe
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:37] <duncan> it seems that importing mibs only helps with traps
[31-Jan-2008 16:03:41] <duncan> which is not what I need
[31-Jan-2008 16:04:10] <duncan> I can just use the mib to find the OID I'm looking for, add a datasource, and then set thresholds on that particular datasource
[31-Jan-2008 16:04:14] <duncan> right?
[31-Jan-2008 16:04:37] <twm1010> correct
[31-Jan-2008 16:13:03] <_LoneCrow> success... its up and running now I just need the default pw's to get in lol
[31-Jan-2008 16:19:38] <twm1010> admin/zenoss
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:33] <_LoneCrow> yep I got it.. just finally able to play with it.. damn its slow on this laptop though everything is chuggin along.. I'm going to install it on a pc with some more mem soon
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:46] <_LoneCrow> then the fun begins
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:54] <_LoneCrow> thx for the help bro
[31-Jan-2008 16:20:58] <twm1010> np
[31-Jan-2008 16:25:22] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[31-Jan-2008 16:27:03] <_LoneCrow> hmm trying to add a device, which field do you actually put the IP? there is none..
[31-Jan-2008 16:32:05] <_LoneCrow> time to rtfm for me lol
[31-Jan-2008 16:36:17] <twm1010> uh huh
[31-Jan-2008 16:39:13] <_LoneCrow> ahhh instead of device name it shoulda been the ip
[31-Jan-2008 16:39:25] <_LoneCrow> wow this is nice I was able to dive into my switch, pick the port and it automaticaly started to graph data!
[31-Jan-2008 16:39:49] <_LoneCrow> ooh gotta test out my trango equipment now.
[31-Jan-2008 17:15:51] <KillMeNow> i think it was johns55 who helped me last night, want to give him a big "THANKS!"
[31-Jan-2008 17:38:10] <jb_> does anyone know how I can populate the "HW Model/HW Make/OS Make/Model" on the status page via SNMP?
[31-Jan-2008 17:38:13] <jb_> err
[31-Jan-2008 17:38:17] <jb_> oops
[31-Jan-2008 18:04:14] <KillMeNow> from my understanding, it's all about the MIBS!
[31-Jan-2008 18:04:26] <KillMeNow> your motherboard / manufacturer MIBS
[31-Jan-2008 18:16:48] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[31-Jan-2008 19:34:48] <eurowerke> anyone around?
[31-Jan-2008 19:35:10] <eurowerke> trying to see if there's a way to change the default sort column on the device list page
[31-Jan-2008 20:33:14] Spec is now known as spec-x
[31-Jan-2008 21:12:26] <duncan> anyone good with defining graphs in zenoss?
[31-Jan-2008 21:13:27] <duncan> I've added some datapoints for collecting the current draw on some network PDU (network power strips) and it is reporting the data in tenths of amps and I need to use RPN to get it from 40 to 4.0, etc
[31-Jan-2008 21:19:57] <bnafziger> 10, / ? (I use 1000,/,32,+,9,*,5,/ ... to go from cel to farenheit)
[31-Jan-2008 21:31:05] <duncan> bnafziger: so, on the graph definition, under RPN, just use 10,/ and it will divide by 10? oh, of course! for some reason I thought I needed to have a cdef variable with the value but I guess it knows
[31-Jan-2008 21:33:36] <KillMeNow> might i ask where you are defining these settings?
[31-Jan-2008 21:33:49] <KillMeNow> i'm still pretty new to zenoss and i'm not familiar with where you are talking about
[31-Jan-2008 21:34:19] <duncan> my data still does not want to show up for some reason.. the graph shows nan as the values.. although if I run "rrdtool info rPDULoadStatusLoad_StatusLoad.rrd" it shows the value ds[ds0].last_ds = "22", which is 2.2 amps
[31-Jan-2008 21:38:42] <duncan> here is the graph output sent to rrdtool from zenoss, and the actual rrd info -- http://pastebin.ca/886715
[31-Jan-2008 21:38:50] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 886715 (at pastebin.ca)
[31-Jan-2008 21:40:10] <duncan> I created a new performance template under devices/power called APC PDU
[31-Jan-2008 21:40:36] <duncan> under the template I added 4 datapoint OID's that I found by searching through the manufacturers MIB
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:21] <duncan> they collect the current power output in tenths of amperes, as well as the low, high, and overload thresholds
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:28] <KillMeNow> cool
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:39] <KillMeNow> where did you add the data points?
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:47] <KillMeNow> under what part of the template?
[31-Jan-2008 21:41:57] <duncan> here is a good example of what I'm trying to get as my output graph: http://forums.cacti.net/about7612.html
[31-Jan-2008 21:42:04] <adytum-bot> Title: APC rack pdu stuff (at forums.cacti.net)
[31-Jan-2008 21:42:27] <duncan> I added the datasources first, then added datapoitns to each source as a GAGUE
[31-Jan-2008 21:42:34] <duncan> err GAUGE
[31-Jan-2008 21:43:08] <duncan> from there I added a new graph and used the datapoint for current power consumption
[31-Jan-2008 21:43:39] <duncan> I set it as an area graph, and I added the RPN you suggested
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:09] <duncan> I know it is collecting the data because I can see the data in the $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/<devicename>/rPDUblahblah.rrd file
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:42] <KillMeNow> copy that
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:49] <KillMeNow> was reading the forum on cacti
[31-Jan-2008 21:45:59] <KillMeNow> that's some good info there duncan
[31-Jan-2008 21:46:27] <duncan> if I can get this working I might be able to package it all up as a zenpack
[31-Jan-2008 21:46:44] <KillMeNow> let us know how you get it resolved, it's a bit over my head at the moment, but i have a APC back up in my rack @ home that i'll have to string ethernet to and try to get polls off it
[31-Jan-2008 21:46:52] <KillMeNow> that would roxxor
[31-Jan-2008 21:47:14] <KillMeNow> i might ping one of my buddies who's a wiz w/ that kind of stuff but he's not online at the moment
[31-Jan-2008 21:47:42] <duncan> KillMeNow: thanks I'll keep you guys posted
[31-Jan-2008 21:47:57] <KillMeNow> i would sure appreciate it
[31-Jan-2008 23:00:54] <johns55> for mysqlmonitor, there should be 2 places to enter the mysqlpassword, does anyone know where this is?
[31-Jan-2008 23:05:59] <johns55> anyone here?
[31-Jan-2008 23:30:52] <KillMeNow> i'm here
[31-Jan-2008 23:30:54] <KillMeNow> now
[31-Jan-2008 23:37:38] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[31-Jan-2008 23:48:15] <nonsenso> i just started setting up zenoss and i'm pretty excited about it.
[31-Jan-2008 23:48:26] <nonsenso> am i a big dork or are a lot of people stoked about it?
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