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[01-Aug-2008 11:31:43] <SniZ|work_> hi, i wanna add to template for "Devices/Server/Windows/" to monitor not only http
[01-Aug-2008 11:31:49] <SniZ|work_> and others i wanna
[01-Aug-2008 11:31:51] <SniZ|work_> what i must do?
[01-Aug-2008 11:33:38] <SniZ|work_> in "/Services /IpService /Registered" i add monitor=true ms-sql-s
[01-Aug-2008 11:34:01] <SniZ|work_> but after i add new device - it cannot be monitored!
[01-Aug-2008 11:52:30] <SniZ|work_> RPC_S_CALL_FAILED: The remote procedure call failed. (1726)
[01-Aug-2008 11:52:30] <SniZ|work_> wtf&
[01-Aug-2008 12:59:17] <Quadro> mmm
[01-Aug-2008 13:00:02] <Quadro> why i can't alert by mail AND paging in the same alerting rule, i wonder
[01-Aug-2008 13:21:57] <IoNu|z> anyone monitoring voice over ip ports with zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 13:22:32] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "T1 0" on host (oid 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.8 is bad)
[01-Aug-2008 13:22:39] <IoNu|z> i`m keep getting these errors...
[01-Aug-2008 14:05:54] <malbon> IoNu|z: that is IF-MIB::ifOutErrors.8 (so port 8 in the table ifOutErrors
[01-Aug-2008 14:05:55] <malbon> )
[01-Aug-2008 14:06:42] <IoNu|z> i have like 800 like that...
[01-Aug-2008 14:07:12] <malbon> IoNu|z: probably not a valid type for that port, what type of port does T1 0 say under Type?
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:02] <malbon> there any zenoss devs here btw? I have a problem/question I'd like a hand with relating to RRD graph points and ObjectMap
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:11] <IoNu|z> IpInterface
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:33] <malbon> IoNu|z: then your problem is easy to solve.
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:48] <IoNu|z> really?
[01-Aug-2008 14:09:03] <malbon> IoNu|z: what you do is clone the ethernetCsmacd and call it IpInterface
[01-Aug-2008 14:09:54] <malbon> IoNu|z: you then take out the datapoints for ifOutErrors (and other oid families that are not present) and all the points on the graphs and thresholds.
[01-Aug-2008 14:10:26] <malbon> to get the name of the oid do 'snmptranslate <oid>'
[01-Aug-2008 14:11:53] <malbon> IoNu|z: this also works for propVirtual interfaces too.
[01-Aug-2008 14:14:39] <malbon> SniZ|work_: You need to put the login details of an account that can access WMI into the zProperties of the device or it's class.
[01-Aug-2008 14:19:55] <IoNu|z> where do i clone ethernetCsmacd ?
[01-Aug-2008 14:20:21] <IoNu|z> oh lol.. found it
[01-Aug-2008 14:26:48] <malbon> I tend to use /Devices /Network
[01-Aug-2008 15:44:10] <SEJeff> I'm trying to take a bogus warning event and automatically send it to history
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:09] <SEJeff> So I've created an event class and when selecting "Map Events to Class", and selecting the class, it says, "1 event is not class /Unknown"
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:27] <SEJeff> Not sure exactly I'm doing wrong
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:51] <SEJeff> *what
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:16] <rmull> Hello, I'm coming from Nagios - zenoss.com mentions that the Enterprise version has "Enhanced Windows Support." What does that mean? With Nagios, I could write a custom script to execute on remote hosts. Can I do this with Zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:35] <SEJeff> rmull, Zenoss uses wmi to run commands
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:53] <SEJeff> rmull, So you can get anything in the windows performance monitor and trend / alert on it. It is pretty cool
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:06] <rmull> SEJeff: Thanks - this is only for the Enterprise version?
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:17] <maxamillion> where might a good resource be on how to apply a SSL certificate to zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:48] <SEJeff> rmull, There are open source windows tools for zenoss, but they aren't as polished or integrated as the version in Enterprise
[01-Aug-2008 15:54:55] <rmull> Okay. Last question - Nagios has a user-contrib site where you can get all types of contributed plugins. Does Zenoss have a contrib site or similar?
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:04] <SEJeff> Yeah just a sec
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:41] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/ , http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Wiki - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:50] <malbon> rmull: Zenpacks are Zenoss Plugins, but you can also use nagios ones without too much effort
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:53] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Community Home - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 15:56:13] <rmull> SEJeff: Great, thanks. I'll be idling here for a while to learn more.
[01-Aug-2008 15:56:38] <malbon> rmull: also commercal zenoss has WinPerf datasources too which are quite handy.
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:03] <rmull> malbon: Is there a remote chance of those features ever working their way into the core release?
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:23] <rmull> I don't know jack about windows machines, but the boss wants to support a good number of them.
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:27] <SEJeff> rmull, You can get similar features with community zenpacks
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:08] <rmull> SEJeff: Fantastic. And the reason I'm considering switching is because I understand Zenoss is supposed to scale better than a Nagios/Munin combo, is that true?
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:16] <malbon> rmull: no idea to be honest. I am only a customer.
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <rmull> malbon: Fair enough, appreciate the info.
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:02] <SEJeff> rmull, Depends on how you set it up. Enterprise certainly scales better than core because it has the distributed collectors
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:23] <SEJeff> Both can scale perfectly fine if they are setup properly
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:28] <malbon> actually distributed collectors can be done with core too. it's in the book.
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:54] <SEJeff> I've been on a team that scaled nagios to 10000+ service checks on ~4000 hosts
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:13] <rmull> Did you have a graphing solution?
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:24] <SEJeff> Anyone who uses nagios also uses cacti
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:36] <SEJeff> There isn't any other decent alternative. Zenoss does it all in 1
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:41] <SEJeff> Which is much better
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:58] <rmull> SEJeff: You seem to have plenty of experience in the field - I believe you.
[01-Aug-2008 16:01:08] <SEJeff> rmull, It is my job
[01-Aug-2008 16:01:31] <SEJeff> They pay me to look like I know what I'm doing. It works well
[01-Aug-2008 16:02:59] <rmull> Yeah, I'm just getting into it, so I want to make sure I have a solid infrastructure in place before I start scaling it.
[01-Aug-2008 16:03:43] <rmull> By the way, for monitoring hosts behind NAT/firewalling, I'm using OpenVPN. I don't suppose Zenoss can handle something like this without extra tools either?
[01-Aug-2008 16:03:48] <SEJeff> rmull, Look into the distributed collectors, they are schmexy
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:08] <rmull> I suppose that means I should look into the "book" mentioned earlier as well.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:11] <SEJeff> rmull, Just put the vpn client on the zenoss server and setup a tunnle. Seem slike a no brainer
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:21] <SEJeff> This keyboard is weird
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:26] <rmull> Okay, that's what I'm doing for Nagios.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:30] <rmull> So that should be portable enough.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:43] <SEJeff> There doesn't seem like any other clean way to do it
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:53] <SEJeff> So long as the route is there, zenoss should be able to monitor it
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:57] <malbon> rmull: the Packt book is worth getting, while all the info in it is freely available it does pull it all together quite nicely
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:06] <rmull> I think Red Hat makes you license a Satellite server so they can monitor through NAT.
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:10] <rmull> Heh
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:25] <SEJeff> rmull, So setup spacewalk and forget about sat server
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:31] <SEJeff> spacewalk is open source now
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:31] <malbon> rmull: I use mrepo for my redhat distribution
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:41] <rmull> I don't want to pay Red Hat, and we're moving to CentOS anyway
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:44] <rmull> Man, I am so cheap.
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:58] <rmull> I checked out Spacewalk a while back
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:05] <SEJeff> malbon, You should really look into cobbler. yum repo + kickstart management / config with a pretty web ui
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:17] <SEJeff> Yeah it doesn't support anything but oracle ATM
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:43] <malbon> SEJeff: I use HP RDP, aka Altiris Deployment Solution
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:01] <SEJeff> Oh I'm sorry
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:07] <malbon> sadly I have to do windows as well.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:27] <rmull> Bah.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:29] <SEJeff> malbon, cobbler will soon support image based installs for windows
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:33] <malbon> actually I quite like altiris, I have automated my entire install now, including kerberos integration etc.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:59] <malbon> rmull: the book is here: http://www.amazon.com/Zenoss-Core-Network-System-Monitoring/dp/1847194281/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217606774&sr=8-1
[01-Aug-2008 16:08:42] <malbon> rmull: of course you can choose your own perferred book vendor if you like.
[01-Aug-2008 16:08:42] <rmull> malbon: Great, thank you. And SEJeff, cobbler looks pretty cool.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:01] <SEJeff> http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Cobbler: Provisioning Made Simple (at cobbler.et.redhat.com)
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:12] <rmull> Wow, this is very recently published.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:20] <rmull> Nice.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:23] <malbon> SEJeff: I got mrepo/altiris playing quite nicely, and I don't like image based windows deployments.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:45] <SEJeff> malbon, disk iso is not image based. it is though you put the cd in and booted from it
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:07] <SEJeff> So you could use RIS or something like that. Whatever the windows deployment thingy is
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:22] <SEJeff> But thats good you have something that works for you
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:52] <malbon> SEJeff: RIS is appauling, Iso based would be more interesting. I'll keep my eye open incase we have to flee the comforts of using HP stuff.
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:29] <SEJeff> malbon, The cobbler team is working on windows deployment mainly for the ovirt team (http://ovirt.org). It is all cool tech
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:46] <__adytum-bot__> Title: oVirt (at ovirt.org)
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:49] <malbon> SEJeff: have you written a modeler for a zenpack as part of what you've been doing?
[01-Aug-2008 16:12:17] <SEJeff> No, I'm working on a custom collector for sucking stuff from ganglia and shoving it into zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 16:13:08] <malbon> ok, shame.
[01-Aug-2008 16:13:56] <rmull> Blah, Ganglia, another monitoring solution. Is it something I should look at as well, or is Zenoss "the best there is."
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:16] <SEJeff> No ganglia is a very very different purpose. It is for HPC style clusters
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:27] <SEJeff> If you aren't familar with why you need it there is a good chance you don't
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:33] <SEJeff> It isn't that great
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:39] <rmull> Oh, yeah, just checked it out, definitely not what I want, heh.
[01-Aug-2008 16:23:30] <rmull> So how about those "fine grained ACLs" that the enterprise version offers?
[01-Aug-2008 16:23:51] <rmull> Can I get read-only for specific host groups with the community version?
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:31] <SEJeff> No
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:34] <SEJeff> Only enterprise
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:37] <SEJeff> From my understanding
[01-Aug-2008 16:26:18] <malbon> to be honest I haven't played with the ACL stuff yet.
[01-Aug-2008 17:40:02] <cciewu> hello?
[01-Aug-2008 17:47:46] <cciewu> i need some zenoss help
[01-Aug-2008 18:02:45] <cciewu> hello
[01-Aug-2008 18:02:59] <cciewu> are you running zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 18:03:03] <cciewu> 2.2.3?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:32] <daMaestro> anyone have syslogging working?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:41] <cciewu> syslog yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:50] <daMaestro> as I read it, the messages are supposed to show up in events for the given device?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:51] <cciewu> what is your problem with zenoss and syslog?
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:07] <cciewu> if you've modeled it with snmp yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:19] <daMaestro> yes, it's been modeled with snmp
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:29] <daMaestro> and i set: local5.crit @zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:39] <daMaestro> then: logger -p local5.crit testing
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:49] <daMaestro> however, nothing shows up in the device's events log
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:10] <cciewu> does your snmpd.conf point to your zenoss server?
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:41] <daMaestro> for traps?
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:48] <cciewu> yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:00] <daMaestro> not yet, now
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:01] <daMaestro> no*
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:32] <daMaestro> i thought that the syslogging was separate from anything snmp
[01-Aug-2008 18:13:54] <cciewu> sorry stepped away
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:12] <cciewu> well you still will want all info sent there
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:20] <cciewu> and local5.* is more accurate
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:25] <cciewu> otherwise you won't see much
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:33] <cciewu> unless is a crit
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:35] <cciewu> event
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> ./zenmigrate
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Database going to version Zenoss 2.2.1
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing EvenMoreBettererStandardErrorMessage (2.2.1)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing HappierZenPackRels (2.2.1)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> Recovering
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:02] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/zenmigrate.py", line 21, in ?
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:04] <cciewu> main()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:06] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/zenmigrate.py", line 18, in main
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:08] <cciewu> m.main()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:10] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 426, in main
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:12] <cciewu> self.cutover()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:14] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 306, in cutover
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:16] <cciewu> self.migrate()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:18] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 282, in migrate
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:20] <cciewu> m.cutover(self.dmd)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:22] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/happierZenPackRels.py", line 22, in cutover
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:24] <cciewu> for p in dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:26] <cciewu> AttributeError: ZenPackManager
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:28] <cciewu> anybody can help with that?
[01-Aug-2008 18:18:00] <daMaestro> cciewu, i'm trying to just manually test this is working
[01-Aug-2008 18:18:28] <cciewu> if you can i'd probably down the eth0 or something and see if that registers
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:02] <daMaestro> lol, i think i found it
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:10] <daMaestro> iptables mis-configuration
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:21] <cciewu> oh yeah that would definitely do it
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:31] <jb> anyone know the mysql password to the stack installer?
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:39] <jb> im trying to run zenbackup..
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:45] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~/backup$ zenbackup --save-mysql-access --file ~/zenoss-2.2.0-backup.tgz
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:45] <jb> mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:54] <cciewu> umm that would be something you need to ask your dba
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:58] <jb> uh
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:04] <jb> no?
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:14] <cciewu> otherwise set one and then use it
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:17] <jb> the stack installer includes its own copy of mysqld, and it obviously sets a default password
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:24] <jb>
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <daMaestro> you can change it via the UI
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <cciewu> oh ok then i'm not sure
[01-Aug-2008 18:21:24] <jb> daM: will that actually update the password via mysql? or just the password that zope tries to use?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:06] <cciewu> anybody have any problems with zenmigrate?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:16] <cciewu> also i've lost /home/zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:22] <jb> of course..
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:29] <jb> what version are you upgrading from/to?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:37] <cciewu> 212 to 223
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:39] <jb> oh
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:44] <jb> good luck.
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:47] <jb>
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:00] <cciewu> well burned that bridge already
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:21] <cciewu> sadly looking back to the side when my performance data still worked
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:41] <cciewu> ok brb
[01-Aug-2008 18:24:08] <jb> btw the default pw is "zenoss"
[01-Aug-2008 18:25:14] <jb> but it doesn't look there is any easy way to change the zenbackup script
[01-Aug-2008 18:26:37] <jb> other than manually editing it and adding a "-pzenoss"
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:33] <cciewu> ok i'm back
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:38] <cciewu> yeah -p zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:48] <cciewu> awfully annoying when you have to cron a mysqldump
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:38] <jb> wow
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:40] <jb> zenbackup is so busted.
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:53] <jb> i dont know what its doing to eat up so much space
[01-Aug-2008 19:03:28] <daMaestro> how do i set the snmp trap community?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:02] <daMaestro> /zport/About/editDaemonConfig?daemon=zentrap ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:08] <daMaestro> if so, what do i set?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:12] <cciewu> ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:23] <cciewu> no let me get it from the correct place
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:50] <cciewu> jb: don't forget it's also gathering all the performance data
[01-Aug-2008 19:06:01] <cciewu> yeah i blew up my tmp also
[01-Aug-2008 19:06:15] <cciewu> i'm considering mounting a nas mount behind tmp
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:02] <cciewu> maestro: look in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:08] <cciewu> trap2sink: A SNMPv2c trap receiver
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:21] <cciewu> arguments: host [community] [portnum]
[01-Aug-2008 19:11:52] <daMaestro> cciewu, for zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:11] <daMaestro> cciewu, i need to set the community name(s) that zenoss will actually honor
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:27] <cciewu> ok i think you set that in snmp right?
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:33] <cciewu> every device uses the same
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:37] <daMaestro> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.1/ZenEvents.zentrap-pysrc.html#ZenTrap.doHandleRequest doesn't seem to show a community string is actually ever checked
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:44] <jb> its annoyign that I have to make /tmp 13GB to support zenbackup's tmp files ;P
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:51] <__adytum-bot__> Title: ZenEvents.zentrap (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:57] <daMaestro> cciewu, i mean for the zentrapd community settings
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:12] <cciewu> i don't know about that setting
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:14] <cciewu> sorry
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:41] <daMaestro> sok, thanks.
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:59] <cciewu> have you looked in the forum?
[01-Aug-2008 19:32:27] <KBA-USA> Hey all
[01-Aug-2008 19:32:38] <KBA-USA> Is there a way to make zenoss play a sound when an event occurs?
[01-Aug-2008 19:35:37] <KBA-USA> Anyone?
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:45] <cciewu> a sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:48] <cciewu> ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:50] <cciewu> hm
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:05] <cciewu> yeah i think so in alerting rules maybe
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:52] <cciewu> nope no sound just checked
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:53] <cciewu> sorry
[01-Aug-2008 19:38:17] <cciewu> you could probably associate the sound with a command
[01-Aug-2008 19:38:31] <cciewu> and then when the even occurs execute the command that will play the sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:30] <KBA-USA> Yeah, that is over my head
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:34] <KBA-USA> how would I go about doing that
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:44] <KBA-USA> basically I need zenoss to play a sound when a critical alert occurs
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:09] <cciewu> do you have a cell?
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:16] <KBA-USA> a cell phone yes
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:19] <cciewu> have it send an sms to cell and have the cell ring you
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:26] <cciewu> find out your cell email address
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:33] <cciewu> put it into the alertig rule
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:46] <KBA-USA> Yeah, but there are 5 of us in the office, and Id like it to play via the zenoss kiosk we have set up
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:48] <cciewu> have the alert look for the event and then page you about it
[01-Aug-2008 19:41:23] <cciewu> i think you can schedule which pager gets the alert also
[01-Aug-2008 19:41:29] <cciewu> can put in multiple ones
[01-Aug-2008 19:42:07] <KBA-USA> Yeah but we have this nice and pretty zenoss kiosk set up in the office
[01-Aug-2008 19:42:19] <KBA-USA> it would be very useful if that kiosk played the sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:43:04] <cciewu> ok here you go setup a simple outlook client of some kind that'll receive the email in the background and play a wav file
[01-Aug-2008 19:44:51] <KBA-USA> Ok, and how would i set zenoss to email to this client ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:14] <cciewu> setup an alertr
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:28] <KBA-USA> where do I do that?
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:31] <cciewu> add a filter to look for the particular event
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:34] <cciewu> settings
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:58] <malbon> KBA-USA: the manual explains it very nicely.
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:15] <KBA-USA> I have looked though it, there is nothing about sounds
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:32] <malbon> nope because it doesn't do sounds by default.
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:42] <KBA-USA> exactly
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:46] <cciewu> right nothing about sounds, but like i said stick a email client on machine and email it, client will play sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <KBA-USA> so thats why I am asking for help
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <malbon> you need to call a script to do that on the device
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <rmull> There's no way to run a script when an event happens?
[01-Aug-2008 19:48:13] <cciewu> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/ch11s14.html
[01-Aug-2008 19:48:27] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:13] <malbon> KBA-USA: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/ch20s04.html
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:18] <malbon> it's even in the index
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:50:43] <cciewu> malbon: can you help with my zenmigrate problem?
[01-Aug-2008 19:50:49] <malbon> cciewu: no
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:11] <malbon> cciewu: I don't have enough knowledge to debug that one, sorry.
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:19] <cciewu> did you see it?
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:46] <malbon> yeah
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:52] <cciewu> ok
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:07] <cciewu> any zenoss devs hang out here?
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:12] <malbon> the 2.1.3 to 2.2.x transition was huge
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:49] <cciewu> i know, i avoided 2.2.1 and i thought they worked everything out by 2.2.3
[01-Aug-2008 19:53:48] <malbon> got a backup of your system before upgrading?
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:19] <cciewu> couldn't tmp blew up on zenbackup
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:25] <cciewu> not enough space
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:34] <malbon> oh well.
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:43] <malbon> you're knackered then probably.
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:09] <cciewu> do you know if there is a way to do zenbackup without all the perf data?
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:15] <cciewu> that'll save a lot of space
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:34] <malbon> I backup the lot.
[01-Aug-2008 19:56:04] <malbon> you could try going into var and removing the pid and zec files, after stopping
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:03] <malbon> then start zeodb and try the zenmigrate again, however the zenpacks changed a lot, so what would probably be better is putting the old zip zenpacks back, then upgrading then one at a time.
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:22] <malbon> after taking a full backup at each step.
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:27] <cciewu> hmm interesting
[01-Aug-2008 19:58:38] <malbon> but before you do anything, backup, then backup again for good measure
[01-Aug-2008 19:58:56] <malbon> afterall disk is cheap
[01-Aug-2008 21:40:38] <cciewu> does anybody know how to downgrade?
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[02-Aug-2008 04:18:01] <daMaestro> someone @ ZenOSS should make sure to chime in with this thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-July/msg00143.html
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:14] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Server Monitoring - A replacement for Nagios? (at www.redhat.com)
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:25] <daMaestro> I've already commented on the situation here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470#c8
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[02-Aug-2008 17:57:58] <BuFF> hello, what is a default username/passwd for zenoss ?
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:41] <BuFF> i used this installation guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Install_the_Zenoss_stack
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:47] <BuFF> anyone ?
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:56] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Ubuntu:Hardy - (at ubuntuguide.org)
[02-Aug-2008 18:01:30] <BuFF> __adytum-bot: what do u mean ?
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[03-Aug-2008 22:54:51] <[Yatta]> is there a problem with zenmib in the VM of 2.2.3 ??
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:11] <[Yatta]> i have somemibs loaded... but I'm trying to load another mib....
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:41] <[Yatta]> in loading the other mib it is saying INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SCTE-HMS-ROOTS
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:54] <[Yatta]> I have SCTE-HMS-ROOTS loaded already... :-(
[03-Aug-2008 23:10:12] <[Yatta]> I thnk i understand now.....
[03-Aug-2008 23:13:31] <[Yatta]> After I put all the mibs in the correct dependency order and run zenmib... the mibs are loaded with Nodes and Notifications...
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[04-Aug-2008 10:05:31] <DarkMats> I'm having a strange problem. zenhub doesn't start with the rest of zenoss. "service zenoss status" says that zenhub is not running, so I ran "zenhub run -v 8" and it runs just fine. Can't find anything in the logs or anything. Any advice?
[04-Aug-2008 10:06:32] <DarkMats> Oh, and when I run "zenhub run -v8" it still doesn't register with zenoss in some way. service zenoss status still says that zenhub is down and so does the zenoss page
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[04-Aug-2008 13:08:58] <KBA-USA> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up zenoss so that it will monitor my VPN connections
[04-Aug-2008 13:09:28] <KBA-USA> The problem is... the main office is on a 10.11 address and the sattilite offices are all on 192.168 addresses
[04-Aug-2008 13:09:44] <KBA-USA> Does anyone know how to make zenoss monitor this?
[04-Aug-2008 13:22:06] <Ozux> hi, I just installed ZenOSS 2.3 but unfortunately AddDevice can't find interfaces (eth0,1,2) and other OS performances, is there any Idea? I have pilot Zenoss (2.2) in same network with same condition that shows every thing related to server,
[04-Aug-2008 13:22:38] <Ozux> And .. there is no problem with Windows servers I have problem just with our LinuxServer!
[04-Aug-2008 13:59:39] <nemo_> zenoss 2.2 for enterprise
[04-Aug-2008 13:59:44] <nemo_> where is it ?
[04-Aug-2008 14:06:48] <Drognan> Are templates stored in text files? I need to make 160 graphs and I'd rather use perl than click 1200 or so times
[04-Aug-2008 14:18:21] <nemo_> werd
[04-Aug-2008 14:20:28] <Bulwinkle> Drognan: put all of the devices in one group and apply the template to the group....
[04-Aug-2008 14:21:06] <Drognan> I'm looking to make the template.
[04-Aug-2008 14:48:47] <KBA-USA> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up zenoss so that it will monitor my VPN connections. The problem is... the main office is on a 10.11 address and the sattilite offices are all on 192.168 addresses. Does anyone know how to make zenoss monitor this?
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:00] <malbon> KBA-USA: Add a network, then discover it. (This info is in the manual)
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:25] <KBA-USA> I did that Malbon, but accoring to the maunal it will only draw the links if its on the same network
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:39] <KBA-USA> and my VPN is accross 2 networks
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:48] <KBA-USA> 192.168.75.1 and 10.11.1.1
[04-Aug-2008 14:53:00] <Ozux> Do ZenOSS have Cache? I Addedd one device to ZenOSS and Deleted that, but even after restarting ZenOSS shows exactly what shows befor I Delete it!
[04-Aug-2008 14:54:53] <malbon> KBA-USA: monitoring and drawing the links in the flash applet are 2 totally different things.
[04-Aug-2008 14:55:47] <KBA-USA> Ok, well I really need the lines to draw within the flash applet. Trying to justify purchasing the "full" version
[04-Aug-2008 14:56:47] <malbon> Raise a ticket, I don't know anything about that. It would help if you asked the right question.
[04-Aug-2008 14:57:01] <malbon> Can you see the devices in the device tree ok?
[04-Aug-2008 14:57:12] <KBA-USA> Within the device list? yes
[04-Aug-2008 14:58:09] <KBA-USA> And I added static routes between the VPN devices
[04-Aug-2008 14:58:10] <malbon> ok, make sure that in the flash applet you set the start device to be your vpn router
[04-Aug-2008 15:02:35] <KBA-USA> Malbon, what do you mean by that?
[04-Aug-2008 15:02:35] <cciewu> good morning
[04-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <malbon> KBA-USA: in the 'selected device or network' box, put the IP of your vpn router.
[04-Aug-2008 15:05:48] <KBA-USA> Oh Malbon, you think I am talking about the Network Map, I mean I want it to draw the connections between the VPN routers on the Google map
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:13] <cciewu> are any of you good with graphing commands?
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:24] <cciewu> like a dns response time command?
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:50] <malbon> KBA-USA: I think you need to go and think about the exact question you want to ask, so far you've not mentioned google map at all.
[04-Aug-2008 15:24:07] <malbon> KBA-USA: A good re-read of the manual probably wouldn't do any harm either.
[04-Aug-2008 15:25:16] <cciewu> malbon have you worked with setting up datapoints with the command as a data source?
[04-Aug-2008 15:25:47] <malbon> cciewu: nope, sorry, I only use SNMP and wmi
[04-Aug-2008 15:26:27] <cciewu> do you know about the graphic ability in zenoss?
[04-Aug-2008 15:31:10] <malbon> cciewu: sorry, I don't understand what you are asking for.
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:03] <cciewu> i'm trying to create a graph with a command as a datasource
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:19] <cciewu> i was trying to gauge how much you knew
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:28] <cciewu> see if you had more than me
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:32] <cciewu> give me a few pointers
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:15] <cciewu> but i think i might have found the answer anyway here:
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:22] <cciewu> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5467&highlight=datapoint+data+source+command
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Command data sources - how? (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Aug-2008 15:58:11] <maxamillion> semi-random question: anyone know how to apply a ssl cert on zenoss?
[04-Aug-2008 15:59:35] <cciewu> not me, but i'm interested , is this to authenticate to zenoss? or are you looking at perf/monitor ssl access somewhere else?
[04-Aug-2008 16:03:29] <malbon> maxamillion: there is a ticket about that. check the trac
[04-Aug-2008 16:04:14] <maxamillion> malbon: awesome, thank you
[04-Aug-2008 16:27:14] <maxamillion> malbon: so stunnel is the only way as of right now?
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:13] <thedude42> maxamillion: i've only seen guides that tell you how to use stunnel to do zope over ssl
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:42] <thedude42> technically it's a zope issue they need to add if i understand the issue correctly
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:58] <maxamillion> thedude42: yeah, i also found one that shows how to through apache ... just wondering if there was a built in somewhere that others might know about
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:09] <thedude42> nope
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:12] <thedude42> you are not alone
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:13] <maxamillion> thedude42: yeah, i don't doubt that zope is the one lacking in the scenario
[04-Aug-2008 17:08:39] <malbon> maxamillion: I would guess so.
[04-Aug-2008 17:09:10] <malbon> maxamillion: you could probably use apache or squid to do it.
[04-Aug-2008 18:03:57] <IoNu|z> anyone monitoring cisco devices with Zenoss core 2.2.3? I am getting all kind of unknown OIDs and stuff like that
[04-Aug-2008 18:04:08] <IoNu|z> so i was wodnering if anyone has it working
[04-Aug-2008 18:09:40] <densone> anyone know where I can get a xen image for zenoss? Zenoss has a VMWare image. Wishing they had one for Xen
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[04-Aug-2008 20:43:30] <densone> zen.ZenDisc no portscan plugins found for web01. Anyone have any insight into this error. Im running ubuntu.
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[04-Aug-2008 22:24:10] <malbon> IoNu|z: did you make the propVirtual template? or is this for the VOIP Encap interfaces?
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:35] <IoNu|z> i didn`t make any template
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:47] <IoNu|z> default settings for everything
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:58] <malbon> ok, that'll be why.
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:17] <IoNu|z> so what do i need to do?
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:20] <malbon> some types of interfaces only expose certain oid's (or datapoints)
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:56] <malbon> best thing to do is get a list of the types of interface you need.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:21] <malbon> propVirtual / ds2 / VOIP Encap etc and what oid's are missing for each.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:36] <malbon> ignore the last digit it is the snmp index.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:50] <malbon> so usually it'll be .10 .11 .16 or .17 missing.
[04-Aug-2008 22:27:18] <malbon> you can then copy the ethernetCSMACD template and remove the corresponding datapoints.
[04-Aug-2008 22:28:00] <malbon> or the other option is to add something like Serial0\0\0* to zInterfaceIgnore (or whatever it is called)
[04-Aug-2008 22:30:58] <malbon> or the other option is you can send me a PM with your interface types as I am going to be working on our router templates tomorrow now I have got the switches clean,
[04-Aug-2008 22:32:12] <malbon> I can then zenpack them up and pop them onto the wiki
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:21] <IoNu|z> nice
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:27] <IoNu|z> well i`m not at work right now
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:39] <IoNu|z> but.. are you going to be available tomorow morning?
[04-Aug-2008 22:34:05] <malbon> I'm on UK time, best thing is to PM mikea on the forum.
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:49] <IoNu|z> ok
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:49] <IoNu|z> cool
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:51] <IoNu|z> thank you
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[05-Aug-2008 13:58:28] <IoNu|z> malbon you online?
[05-Aug-2008 14:07:41] <cciewu> if you would like i might be able to help if i can
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:14] <IoNu|z> cool
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:29] <IoNu|z> he was saying something about a vocie encapsulation template yesterday
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:33] <IoNu|z> for ciscos
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:47] <cciewu> ok that was sadly beyond me
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:57] <IoNu|z> dang
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:58] <IoNu|z> ok
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:00] <cciewu> sorry
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:14] <IoNu|z> maybe you can help me with soemthign else
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:20] <IoNu|z> you monitor interfaces on switches?
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:38] <cciewu> shouldn't be too hard
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:47] <IoNu|z> yes.. they are in there
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:49] <cciewu> have they been identified by snmp?
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:59] <IoNu|z> but when they change to down... zenoss still shows them up
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:33] <cciewu> i'm guessing here but maybe you need the cisco zenpack? maybe?
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:40] <cciewu> i'm assuming cisco switches
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:43] <IoNu|z> cisco sla?
[05-Aug-2008 14:11:57] <cciewu> maybe
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:28] <IoNu|z> hwo about last collection
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:34] <IoNu|z> it still shows as yesterday?
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:53] <cciewu> i don't know about when the collections are run sorry
[05-Aug-2008 14:13:02] <cciewu> i guess i'm not very good with zenoss yet
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:18] <IoNu|z> that`s cool
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:20] <IoNu|z> i`m not eather
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:23] <IoNu|z> we all learn
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:43] <cciewu> i'm actually learning from a setup that was not mine
[05-Aug-2008 14:36:11] <Gamekiller77> dude my zenoss is not working as it use ti any more
[05-Aug-2008 14:36:59] <Gamekiller77> it take so long for my portlet to load and i turned off zenmolder
[05-Aug-2008 14:38:34] <Gamekiller77> every time i try to click device list it get lost connection to the server
[05-Aug-2008 14:39:08] <Gamekiller77> also i have upgraded to 2.2.3
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:18] <IoNu|z> you have allot of routes in your config/
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:19] <IoNu|z> ?
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:34] <Gamekiller77> i have noticed mysqld.bin is using a lot of cpu %
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:49] <Gamekiller77> well i have all my servers all 20
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:57] <Gamekiller77> and the 6 switchs
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:06] <IoNu|z> i bet it`s teh first run and it`s trying to remodel everything
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:11] <IoNu|z> check by networks
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:18] <IoNu|z> see how many networks you have in there
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:31] <IoNu|z> i experienced the same problem when i had allot of networks
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:33] <Gamekiller77> in the Zenoss issues all the services have seconds listed
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:44] <Gamekiller77> yah i have like 30
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:46] <Gamekiller77> subnets
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:53] <Gamekiller77> but i turned off the modeler
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:15] <Gamekiller77> and i can not click on anthing
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:42] <Gamekiller77> every time i do the cpu load on mysql.bin jumps it at 190% now
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:45] <Gamekiller77> i have 2 cpu
[05-Aug-2008 14:44:45] <Gamekiller77> i just tried to click over to networks and nothing
[05-Aug-2008 14:44:57] <IoNu|z> did you try to restart the box?
[05-Aug-2008 14:45:17] <Gamekiller77> localhost zenmodeler 2836704 i have that in the zenoss issues
[05-Aug-2008 14:45:26] <Gamekiller77> yah done that already
[05-Aug-2008 14:46:05] <Gamekiller77> i am almost sure it the mysql that the stack uses
[05-Aug-2008 14:46:20] <Gamekiller77> why would it be at 125% usage
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:18] <IoNu|z> i have no ideea
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:37] <IoNu|z> is this teh first time taht you started with 2.2.3
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:38] <IoNu|z> ?
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:40] <Gamekiller77> my network stuff just came up
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:45] <Gamekiller77> yes
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:57] <IoNu|z> how many networks do you have in there?
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:11] <Gamekiller77> 31
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:35] <Gamekiller77> subnets
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:56] <IoNu|z> then.. that`s not your problem
[05-Aug-2008 14:49:20] <Gamekiller77> it mysql i looking at top right now on the console as i work
[05-Aug-2008 14:49:25] <Gamekiller77> and it pegged
[05-Aug-2008 14:50:35] <Gamekiller77> this was so fast then it started to get slower and slower
[05-Aug-2008 14:51:45] <Gamekiller77> with 20 servers i do not see why the database would be getting hit so hard
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:13] <IoNu|z> did you try searching for an answer on the forums?
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:26] <Gamekiller77> i going there now
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:48] <Gamekiller77> i like the more human system of IRC
[05-Aug-2008 14:56:52] <Gamekiller77> that just super odd it sits at 120 - 150% cpu usage by mysqld.bin
[05-Aug-2008 15:03:43] <cciewu> do you have anything flooding your events?
[05-Aug-2008 15:03:55] <Gamekiller77> use to not any more
[05-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <Gamekiller77> now i have a ton of RED in windows devices great
[05-Aug-2008 15:04:54] <Gamekiller77> it finaly desided to get all the service i ask it to watch on my windows boxes
[05-Aug-2008 15:06:25] <Gamekiller77> am i correct in thinking that 2.2.3 has it own mysql engine right
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:38] <Gamekiller77> ok i had mysql still running from the old install i had
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:45] <Gamekiller77> rebooting to see if that fixes stuff
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:53] <nemo_> ;/
[05-Aug-2008 15:09:51] <cciewu> might want to run some tuning on your mysql as well
[05-Aug-2008 15:10:35] <Gamekiller77> but in 2.2.X stack it has it own mysql instance
[05-Aug-2008 15:10:47] <Gamekiller77> i have to find out how to get to it
[05-Aug-2008 15:33:36] <Gamekiller77> so idle zenoss is fine
[05-Aug-2008 15:33:49] <Gamekiller77> the second i start the website it pegs mysql
[05-Aug-2008 15:39:41] <cciewu> hmm
[05-Aug-2008 15:39:59] <cciewu> what do you mean start the website?
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:20] <Gamekiller77> gui
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:24] <Gamekiller77> the dmd
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:57] <cciewu> but i thought when you start the zenoss services the website is started already
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:10] <cciewu> do mean the first time you visit the page?
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:14] <Gamekiller77> when i log in to the site
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:26] <Gamekiller77> to display the protlets
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:29] <Gamekiller77> portlets
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:04] <Gamekiller77> i think zenwin is what is killing me hmm
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:37] <cciewu> check the log in the log directory for zenwin
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:47] <cciewu> also sec the logseverity for zenwin to 10
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:11] <Gamekiller77> is that the lowest
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:37] <cciewu> i was told it ws the highest by my predessor maybe he was wrong
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:40] <cciewu> not sure
[05-Aug-2008 15:48:03] <Gamekiller77> you know what i ask not i set my self as a admin for one server and unplugged it but i never got an e-mail and the e-mail test worked fine in my account profile
[05-Aug-2008 15:49:52] <cciewu> did you set an alert rule?
[05-Aug-2008 15:49:53] <Gamekiller77> yup i think it was zenwin now i have a ton of service that are red but are not running on the system
[05-Aug-2008 15:50:49] <cciewu> can you send screenshots?
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[05-Aug-2008 16:21:07] <cciewu> gamekiller any luck?
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:19] <Gamekiller77> i cleared out the events
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:25] <Gamekiller77> and going a bit faster
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:56] <Gamekiller77> still got massive timeouts on my zenoss issues porlet
[05-Aug-2008 16:47:41] <Gamekiller77> pretty much every daemon in the zenoss suit
[05-Aug-2008 16:55:55] <Gamekiller77> zenhub was not running odd
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:22] <Gamekiller77> ok rtfm for me
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:28] <Gamekiller77> i just looked at the logs
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:32] <Gamekiller77> what an idea
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:33] <Gamekiller77> 2008-08-04 11:45:44 ERROR zen.ZenModeler: Unable to fill collection slots: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:42] <Gamekiller77> no hell if ik now what that means
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:50] <Gamekiller77> now*
[05-Aug-2008 17:00:17] <Gamekiller77> i have aht error in half the daemons in zenoss
[05-Aug-2008 17:01:44] <cciewu> sorry i wasn't watching
[05-Aug-2008 17:02:55] <Gamekiller77> i have a lot of PBConnectionLost errors
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:42] <cciewu> what are those pbconnectlost?
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:50] <cciewu> bad cable?
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:54] <Gamekiller77> no
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:01] <Gamekiller77> there in the logs of the daemons
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:12] <cciewu> all daemons or just one?
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:23] <Gamekiller77> almost all of them
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:34] <Gamekiller77> zenwin zeneventlog
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:40] <Gamekiller77> all the main stuff to tracks
[05-Aug-2008 17:06:11] <Gamekiller77> look like it is a zenhub problem
[05-Aug-2008 17:21:24] <malbon> IoNu|z: Sorry, looks like I am gonig to take a bit longer for these templates.
[05-Aug-2008 17:21:32] <malbon> IoNu|z: I found a bug in core
[05-Aug-2008 17:22:32] <IoNu|z> oh
[05-Aug-2008 17:22:41] <IoNu|z> that`s fine take your time
[05-Aug-2008 17:39:44] <IoNu|z> how do i make zenoss to do checks more offten?
[05-Aug-2008 17:40:14] <IoNu|z> it says that the last check is over an hour ago...
[05-Aug-2008 17:47:54] <cciewu> what check are you talk about ion?
[05-Aug-2008 17:47:58] <cciewu> alert checks?
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:29] <IoNu|z> yes
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:36] <IoNu|z> like when you go to the device
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:44] <IoNu|z> it says when it was added
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:46] <IoNu|z> checked
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:51] <IoNu|z> and last change
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:46] <cciewu> hey ion
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:50] <cciewu> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004706.html
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:54] <cciewu> maybe that will help
[05-Aug-2008 18:27:36] <IoNu|z> isn`t that only for ping?
[05-Aug-2008 18:31:37] <IoNu|z> oh i don`t need to change it
[05-Aug-2008 18:31:44] <IoNu|z> it checks every 5 minutes by default
[05-Aug-2008 18:32:10] <IoNu|z> but i don`t understand why it checks only when i restart zen moddeler
[05-Aug-2008 19:57:51] <cciewu> from what i know zenmodeler is what finds and queueries machines.
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[05-Aug-2008 21:13:36] <malbon> IoNu|z: did you collect up what device types you have producing bad oid reports?
[05-Aug-2008 21:31:39] <IoNu|z> cisco 5300s
[05-Aug-2008 21:34:09] <malbon> nope, not the cisco model, but if you go into your device under the OS tab you have all the interfaces.
[05-Aug-2008 21:34:29] <malbon> choose one which is erroring (eg Voice Peer: 8) and see what type it is
[05-Aug-2008 21:37:44] <IoNu|z> i have "VLAN88" on host (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:38:24] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "T1 0" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.5 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:38:44] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "Voice Over IP Peer: 4444" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.139 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:13] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "Voice Over IP Peer: 500999" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.161 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:17] <IoNu|z> they are like 625
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:47] <malbon> yes but in "T1 0" what type does it say it is?
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:25] <IoNu|z> that one is under IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:34] <IoNu|z> teh others are under Other
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:50] <malbon> hmm.
[05-Aug-2008 21:41:03] <malbon> My E1 0 is a 'ds2'
[05-Aug-2008 21:41:21] <malbon> what is your GigabitEthernet type?
[05-Aug-2008 21:42:06] <IoNu|z> what do you mean?
[05-Aug-2008 21:42:16] <IoNu|z> i have a T1 connected to it
[05-Aug-2008 21:44:22] <malbon> what I am trying to do is understand what type of template you need. So can you go into your T1 0 interface and see 3 broken graphs?
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[05-Aug-2008 21:45:56] <IoNu|z> i have 462 bad oids
[05-Aug-2008 21:46:38] <malbon> yes, I know you have 462 bad oid's but unless we get the types I can't help you really. so we have to do some prep work to get rid of these issues.
[05-Aug-2008 21:46:51] <IoNu|z> yes i have 3 broken graphs under the t1
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:07] <malbon> on that page at the top there is a table
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:21] <malbon> on the left hand column there is a field called type
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:26] <malbon> what is it's value?
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:12] <IoNu|z> componnet type?
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:30] <IoNu|z> for voice incapsulation is other
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:42] <IoNu|z> and for the t1 is IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:49:02] <IoNu|z> is this what you need?
[05-Aug-2008 21:50:07] <malbon> hang on a tick. let me find a picture in the manual, I don't have zenoss at home.
[05-Aug-2008 21:55:31] <IoNu|z> are you going to be online in 20 minutes?
[05-Aug-2008 21:55:56] <IoNu|z> i wan`t to go home and do teh rest from there
[05-Aug-2008 21:56:52] <malbon> nope
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:06] <IoNu|z> ok.. i`ll stay then
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:12] <IoNu|z> do you still have time to help me out?
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:50] <malbon> 4th row down left column in IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:55] <malbon> called Type
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:08] <IoNu|z> oh
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:10] <IoNu|z> now i got you
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:11] <IoNu|z> ds1
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:44] <IoNu|z> and Voice Encapulation for the voice over ip
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:46] <malbon> collect all those, and PM me them on the forum.
[05-Aug-2008 22:00:27] <IoNu|z> ok
[05-Aug-2008 22:00:33] <IoNu|z> what`s your id on the forum?
[05-Aug-2008 22:01:37] <malbon> mikea
[05-Aug-2008 22:01:54] <malbon> anyhow gotta go. need some sleep.
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[06-Aug-2008 14:53:55] <IoNu|z> malbon you on?
[06-Aug-2008 14:58:07] <duncan> good morning Zenossians... question, I'm running 2.1.2 in production and we're moving to a newer server, should I be able to use zenbackup and zenrestore onto 2.2.3?
[06-Aug-2008 15:00:58] <cciewu> NOOOOOOOO
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:12] <cciewu> i just went through with this on my production 2.1.2
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:13] <cciewu> trust me
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:25] <cciewu> zenmigrate will fail miserably
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:33] <cciewu> check the forums for more info
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:50] <cciewu> i did this upgrade and then had to downgrade
[06-Aug-2008 15:02:05] <cciewu> the downgrade will break three zen services.
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:07] <duncan> cciewu: doh! glad I asked... is there a way to upgrade a fully populated and customized zen install to 2.2.3?
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:11] * nemo_ is glad he waits for you brave hears to do upgrades first !
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:15] <nemo_> hearts*
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:33] <cciewu> bastards
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:58] <cciewu> i'd probably setup some kind of duplicate of your prod env first
[06-Aug-2008 15:04:02] <cciewu> and do a test with it
[06-Aug-2008 15:04:04] * nemo_ nods
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:27] <cciewu> if you can't i'd setup maybe a smaller env with 2 machines snmp to zen test server
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:38] <cciewu> i know when i upgraded zenhub died and went to heaven
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:53] <cciewu> and nothing i did brought it back
[06-Aug-2008 15:07:21] <duncan> cciewu: are the developers aware of this bug? i'm greping through the forums now for more info
[06-Aug-2008 15:08:36] <cciewu> i'm guessing no because each env is so different
[06-Aug-2008 15:08:45] <cciewu> like i'm running on a remote mysql
[06-Aug-2008 15:10:19] <cciewu> that may not be the answer to why zenmigrate didn't work, but 2.1.2 zenbackup, be aware will kill your tmp directory
[06-Aug-2008 15:10:28] <cciewu> it'll try to get all your perf data into there
[06-Aug-2008 15:11:05] <cciewu> so make sure you have room or am mounting it somewhere else
[06-Aug-2008 15:14:29] <duncan> cciewu: I've run into that issue before, I just told zenbackup to not use the tmp folder and rather to use a folder with much more free space... the issue I'm concerned about is database structure changes..
[06-Aug-2008 15:15:15] <cciewu> did you edit the mysqldump statement in backup.py?
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:10] <cciewu> /duncan yeah i'd investigate whether zenmigrate will actually work first before going down that path
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:43] <duncan> cciewu: well since I'm moving to a different server, I'll have a hot spare =)
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:55] <cciewu> good idea
[06-Aug-2008 15:18:28] <nate187> hey guys, i have a quick question that i can't find an answer for in the docs
[06-Aug-2008 15:19:25] <nate187> I'm making a custom command template, what variable do i need to use to pass an interface's snmp index number?
[06-Aug-2008 15:23:02] <cciewu> you mean OID number?
[06-Aug-2008 15:25:33] <nate187> kinda, the interface index number - what it would tag on the end of the oid
[06-Aug-2008 15:25:52] <duncan> cciewu: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[06-Aug-2008 15:26:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:02] <cciewu> you can probably do a search for it
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:16] <cciewu> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?objectInput=1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5.3&translate=Translate&submitValue=SUBMIT&submitClicked=true
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Cisco SNMP Object Navigator (at tools.cisco.com)
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:47] <cciewu> you'll see cisco's tree and just move on up and change the numbers that you need
[06-Aug-2008 15:29:55] <cciewu> duncan: i know those look easy and are great, but from a person that followed that document it needs to be re-written with a lot of warning and possible death signs
[06-Aug-2008 16:08:16] <C_Kode> How do I monitor a process on a machine other than the Zenoss server?
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:29] <malbon> IoNu|z: hi
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:47] <IoNu|z> good morning
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:58] <malbon> good afternoon.
[06-Aug-2008 16:16:02] <IoNu|z>
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:07] <IoNu|z> i tried to do some templates by7 myself
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:13] <malbon> and?
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:18] <IoNu|z> i copied the original template
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:25] <IoNu|z> renamed it ds1 for example
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:29] <IoNu|z> it took it
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:34] <IoNu|z> but i still don`t see any graphs
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:51] <IoNu|z> so i`m guessing that i need to change some oid`s?
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:57] <IoNu|z> in teh actual template?
[06-Aug-2008 16:18:48] <malbon> well actually you can't have graphs on those interfaces, as there is no performance data in ifMib
[06-Aug-2008 16:20:15] <IoNu|z> so i can`t have graph for the t1?
[06-Aug-2008 16:21:57] <IoNu|z> oh i c there is no ifindex for that
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:06] <IoNu|z> so it can`t check it
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:35] <malbon> indeed.
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:58] <malbon> well there probably is, but I haven't had time to look at the cisco specific mibs yet.
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:20] <IoNu|z> i have it in front of me and there isn`t
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:21] <IoNu|z>)
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:39] <malbon> this change set is useful too as it gets rid of all the problem of the & in the template name http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset/9821
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:46] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Changeset 9821 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:12] <malbon> you have *all* the cisco mibs loaded in your net-snmp?
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:34] <IoNu|z> nice
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:38] <IoNu|z> yes
[06-Aug-2008 16:25:56] <malbon> so I guess your doing a snmpwalk on enterprises to see that?
[06-Aug-2008 16:26:06] <IoNu|z> yes
[06-Aug-2008 16:26:21] <IoNu|z> i have a browser
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:03] <malbon> in windows or linux?
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:37] <IoNu|z> windows
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:59] <malbon> bah!
[06-Aug-2008 16:28:41] <IoNu|z> yeah i know
[06-Aug-2008 16:34:01] <nate187> Anyone know what variable to use in order to pass an interface's index number to a command? something like ${device/ifindex} ?
[06-Aug-2008 16:53:59] <IoNu|z> so malbon that should be it?
[06-Aug-2008 16:55:57] <IoNu|z> i have an another concern...
[06-Aug-2008 16:56:09] <IoNu|z> how do i make it check if the interface goes down?
[06-Aug-2008 17:00:49] <malbon> yeah that's a good question.
[06-Aug-2008 17:00:55] <malbon> you could use syslog
[06-Aug-2008 17:01:26] <IoNu|z> what are you using?
[06-Aug-2008 17:09:02] <malbon> we use snmp and syslog for up-down messages
[06-Aug-2008 17:09:18] <malbon> snmp for stats, and syslog for other stuff.
[06-Aug-2008 18:20:00] <IoNu|z> can you give me some hints on how to config some alarms for up/down?
[06-Aug-2008 18:32:25] <IoNu|z> malbon you still online?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:03] <duncan> whats the default username / password for the stack installer?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:06] <baffle> Is it only me that have problems installing ZenPacks or is this a "gernal" problem?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:12] <baffle> duncan: admin/zenoss I think?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:20] <baffle> general
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:07] <duncan> baffle: thanks...
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:34] <baffle> I.e. the mib_utils .egg is "stuck", can't unisntall. (http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402#23402). I try to install the CiscoIPSLA zenpack, and it complains "ValueError: Not a registered directory: /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/CiscoIPSLA/skins"... Gaaaah..
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:11] <IoNu|z> i have 2 types of interfaces named the same ... ethernetCsmacd
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:15] <IoNu|z> the ethernet
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:20] <IoNu|z> and the vlans....
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:48] <IoNu|z> so how do i make a separate template and make teh vlans use it?
[06-Aug-2008 19:40:17] <locohost> anyone monitor time?
[06-Aug-2008 19:40:23] <locohost> like, to make sure its in sync..
[06-Aug-2008 19:41:02] <IoNu|z> ntp?
[06-Aug-2008 19:41:30] <locohost> yeah, im using ntp. But something to actually check the time on everything and verify that it is in sync
[06-Aug-2008 19:42:25] <duncan> I just have snmpd check local processes I need to monitor with proc, should alert if they are absent
[06-Aug-2008 19:47:12] <BMDan> Okay, what's the Zenoss-y way to handle this? I've got an OID through which I publish a string, which is either "OK" or something else. I want to know if that OID is anything other than "OK". It represents the state of a RAID card, and it's a custom-rolled "pass" script in net-snmp, not something that has a MIB associated with it, so I can't just drop in a MIB from some vendor's website.
[06-Aug-2008 19:55:07] <npmccallum> Does the author of the improved linux zenpack hang out in here?
[06-Aug-2008 20:17:33] <baffle> locohost: No, I don't monitor that, but sounds like a good idea. But how would it work? Something like "if reportedtime <> 1 second from localtime, generate event"?
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:39] <BMDan> Should be (1 second + .5 * ping-reported RTT), no?
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:42] <baffle> BMDan: I was thinking about something simmilar, but more along the lines of "generate a trap from the client when this happens".. But then again, then the alerts are initated from the Client, so you never know if it is polled properly..
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:56] <locohost> yeah, something like that baffle
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:13] <locohost> vms seem to have time issues a lot
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:14] <BMDan> @baffle: Right. I'd much rather do direct polling rather than mess around with traps.
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:14] <__adytum-bot__> BMDan: Error: 'baffle:' is not a valid command.
[06-Aug-2008 20:20:45] <baffle> BMDan: We've started mucking around with modelling etc, but not for those kind of things. Only "solution" I've seen in the forums earlier, is to report "0" if it's OK, and "1" if it's not, and have a graph with treshold.. But that's so ugly I want to cry.
[06-Aug-2008 20:22:55] <baffle> What I'd really like to see, are *small* SNMP servers (that you can proxy requests to via net-snmp) from all major RAID vendors.
[06-Aug-2008 20:23:15] <baffle> Also, someone writing an SNMP->IPMI proxy would really be great too.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:24] <BMDan> baffle: SNMP->IPMI seems easy enough, depending on exactly what you want to expose.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:44] <BMDan> But all I want to do is something that I used to be able to do with a 2-line Bash plugin in Nagios.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:53] <BMDan> I was vaguely under the impression Zenoss could use Nagios plugins...?
[06-Aug-2008 20:31:21] <duncan> my server has a limited amount of space in the /usr tree, so I have a 250gb raid0 partition to use for collecting performance data.. when I create a symbolic link to the perf folder, zenrestore gets rid of the link and tries to use the physical volume which isn't big enough.. argh
[06-Aug-2008 20:32:56] <baffle> BMDan: Yes, you can execute Nagios plugins on the (zenoss) server or on the client (via SSH).
[06-Aug-2008 20:33:05] <baffle> BMDan: So that kinda works.
[06-Aug-2008 20:33:39] <baffle> BMDan: We've written some Nagios-style checks for lots of stuff, actually. But I find it extremly ugly to allow SSH to the server + storing the password in ZenOss.
[06-Aug-2008 20:34:11] <baffle> duncan: Mount it there instead?
[06-Aug-2008 20:37:19] <baffle> BMDan: Well, sure, you can do something like "If I get polled on this OID, run ipmitool <some sensor> | awk | sed | cut".. But I want a small snmp-deamon/proxy that will poll all sensors, and generate a nice tree that fits a standard MIB (standard as in "IPMI.mib" or something).. And wich will poll all the interesting values on regular intervals and pushing them to a table, so that you don't have to do the poll when you get an SNMP GET; ipmi is dead slo
[06-Aug-2008 20:46:34] <BMDan> baffle: w/r/t Nagios-style checks, all I want is to wrap snmpget with an "if [ $(snmpget ...) == "OK" ]; then exit 0; else exit 1; fi
[06-Aug-2008 20:46:57] <BMDan> baffle: No ssh'ing involved.
[06-Aug-2008 20:48:27] <duncan> baffle: good one, man.. I suck at linux today lol
[06-Aug-2008 20:52:22] <baffle> BMDan: Well, write a Nagios plugin that does the snmpget, then.
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[07-Aug-2008 01:33:46] <crashdummyMCH> is it possible to set up an event when a new device is "auto-discovered"?
[07-Aug-2008 01:51:21] <IoNu|z> you mean setting the device for an template?
[07-Aug-2008 01:51:22] <IoNu|z> or?
[07-Aug-2008 01:56:38] <crashdummyMCH> no once a device is "auto-discovered" I would like to create an event to send an email
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[07-Aug-2008 05:10:11] <mistat> Anyone alive?
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:23] <mistat> On the dashboard, I'm seeing some errors for Zenoss Issues
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:30] <mistat> server zenhub -36576
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:36] <mistat> server zenmodeler -36591
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:44] <mistat> server zenactions -36532
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:50] <mistat> server zenstatus -36535
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:56] <mistat> Can anyone advise what this means?
[07-Aug-2008 11:57:55] troy_ is now known as troy
[07-Aug-2008 13:02:49] <C_Kode> Why do processes just disappear off the OS Process list?
[07-Aug-2008 13:04:37] <C_Kode> While I like Zenoss, it has to many issues. Installing a ZenPack is pretty much a prelude to errors.
[07-Aug-2008 13:40:58] nate is now known as nate187
[07-Aug-2008 15:17:59] <garn32> I have some Juniper SA-4000 that i am attempting to monitor with Zenoss 2.1.3 I have added the mib, created the datapoints, graphs, and verified that the box running zenoss is able to access the devices in question via snmp but zenoss is telling me:
[07-Aug-2008 15:18:19] <garn32> XXXXXXXXX|iveConcurrentUsers|/Perf/Snmp||2|Error reading value for \"iveConcurrentUsers\" on XXXXXXXXX (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.12532.12 is bad)
[07-Aug-2008 15:19:09] <C_Kode> Im no Zenoss master, but are you using the correct snmp version?
[07-Aug-2008 15:19:30] <garn32> pertty sure sure both are running v2c
[07-Aug-2008 15:20:00] <C_Kode> Does everything look ok when you call snmpwalk with -v 2c?
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:35] <garn32> I just realized that i forgot to add the .0 to the end of the OID in zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:46] <C_Kode> Great.
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:52] <C_Kode> Hopefully that fixed your issue
[07-Aug-2008 15:23:48] <nate187> Where would I find where the <body> tag is being generated on pages? in order to add a javascript onload attribute
[07-Aug-2008 15:28:35] <shyru> hi all!
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:05] <shyru> anybody here!
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:13] <C_Kode> Nope
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:32] <garn32> not at all
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:56] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:36] <shyru> anybody know how to migrate from zenoss 2.13 to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:54] <C_Kode> I think there is documentation about it
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:58] <C_Kode> On their website
[07-Aug-2008 15:32:29] <shyru> C_Kode, yeah i read, but its does not work for me :S
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:03] <C_Kode> Sorry. I know nothing about it, but if you ask I might magically know something that could help
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:35] <shyru> thanks
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:44] <C_Kode> Though I must say. I've been to this channel several times and have never received replies to problems I've had.
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:58] <C_Kode> Very dead channel
[07-Aug-2008 15:34:40] <shyru> C_Kode, uhhh
[07-Aug-2008 15:44:15] <shyru> C_Kode, i have 2 servers, rukia box had zenoss 2.1.3 and shinigami box had 2.2.3, but i need to shut off rukia and wake up shinigami like production, but rukia had all conf and i need to migrate conf to rukia from shinigami.
[07-Aug-2008 15:45:04] <shyru> do you understand me? Well i think, if i update rukia and restore her conf to shinigami box.
[07-Aug-2008 15:46:18] <SEJeff> Are you doing this on redhat/centos?
[07-Aug-2008 15:46:41] <shyru> SEJeff, centos
[07-Aug-2008 15:47:45] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[07-Aug-2008 15:47:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 15:48:20] <shyru> thanks SEJeff i'm reading it!
[07-Aug-2008 15:48:34] <SEJeff> Basicly just make sure zenoss is running and install the new rpms
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:04] <SEJeff> There is a zenmigrate.py script if you were using the svn or installing zenoss from source
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:09] <SEJeff> The rpms should do that for you thought
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:26] <shyru> ok!
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:38] <shyru> let me check SEJeff!!!
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:39] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 16:18:38] <ToM-> Evening
[07-Aug-2008 16:20:12] <ToM-> I'd like to ask how is the Zenoss Agent progressing? As I don't want to loose any performance data or events even when the network is down. So a agent on target machines is needed to cache all the data zenoss wants to monitor
[07-Aug-2008 16:39:57] <jb> is anyone experiencing gaps in their graphs after upgrading to 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 16:59:29] <SEJeff> jb, Losing data in graphs is generally caused by system bottlenecks.
[07-Aug-2008 16:59:44] <SEJeff> jb, I've been tuning zenoss quite a bit and could help you with this if you are interested
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:44] <jb> well
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:48] <jb> the system is not under any stress at all
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:51] <jb> no iowait
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:56] <jb> no heavy cpu load
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:16] <jb> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:16] <jb> 0.50 0.00 0.50 0.00 0.00 99.00
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:21] <jb> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:22] <jb> 2.50 0.00 6.00 0.00 0.00 91.50
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:51] <SEJeff> With 1 second polling, I was seeing low io wait, <= 5 % with an 8 disk raid 10
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:56] <SEJeff> hmmm that looks pretty nice
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:04] <SEJeff> So could it be the network perhaps?
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:23] <SEJeff> Also, depending on how aggressively you are polling or how busy the devices are, some devices will drop snmp data
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:29] <SEJeff> s/data/requests/
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:17] <jb> hrm, well it worked fine with 2.2.0
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:23] <jb> no additional devices added with 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:25] <SEJeff> We noticed that foundry switches would drop snmp requests when they were overloaded
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:59] <jb> hm, when you run zenperfsnmp from the CLI, does it exit normally?
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:02] <jb> i notice that it hangs
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:14] <SEJeff> Perhaps you should strace it and see what it is blocking on
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:24] <SEJeff> Just do something like this:
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:37] <SEJeff> strace -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:57] <SEJeff> It will run a lot slower under strace just so you know
[07-Aug-2008 17:07:45] <jb> ok yeah thats the problem
[07-Aug-2008 17:07:51] <jb> it doesn't stop like that on my old box.
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:45] <SEJeff> Exactly why you should strace it
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:54] <SEJeff> Because you can tail the log and see where it is hanging
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:56] <jb> yep, doing that now.
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:00] <SEJeff> Probably on a poll, or select
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:08] <SEJeff> My guess is a select waiting for io. Maybe network?
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:21] <jb> i doubt it, but we will see
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:43] <SEJeff> Alright
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:00] <SEJeff> If you are ok with doing it, pastebin the strace log
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:06] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:10] <jb> its running now..
[07-Aug-2008 17:11:40] <jb> yeah it hangs periodically
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:27] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094894
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:32] <jb> theres an example..
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1094894 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:38] <jb> it was stuck there for about a minute
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:09] <SEJeff> The select... exactly. Waiting on a socket probably. Lets look
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:30] <jb> yep, everytime it stalls, its on a SELECT
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:54] <SEJeff> Thats common
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:02] <jb> how would you further diagnose it
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:02] <SEJeff> Ok so can you pastebin the whole thing?
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:07] <jb> not done yet
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:09] <jb> its gonna be quite large
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:23] <SEJeff> Line 206: 21708 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {86, 492990}
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:31] <SEJeff> Ok how about this
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:35] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:39] <SEJeff> break out of that and rm strace.log
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:49] <jb> K
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:05] <SEJeff> Then try this
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:15] <SEJeff> strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:26] <SEJeff> Then let it go to the first time it hangs and then break out
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:30] <SEJeff> pastebin that log
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:31] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:42] <SEJeff> In the previous one I couldn't see what file descriptor it was hanging on
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:02] <SEJeff> the select said fd 5, but you didn't include enough of the log to see what fd 5 was. Make sense?
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:18] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:42] <SEJeff> Just "man select" to see how it is being called. All of those functions have man pages
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:43] <BMDan> Just grep the strace: grep -E 'open.*= 5$'
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:14] <SEJeff> BMDan, I think it is a socket, not a file. We'll find out in a minute
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:15] <BMDan> Actually FD 5 is the notify FD there.
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:23] <SEJeff> You're right
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:37] <BMDan> You probably want 3 and 4.
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:00] <BMDan> I've never seen the [3 4] syntax in strace before; is that how it represents arrays?
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:05] <SEJeff> jb, You can also find out what those fds are with lsof while the process is running
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:09] <BMDan> well, not technically "arrays"...
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:10] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yup
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:21] <BMDan> struct fd_set *readfds
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:31] * BMDan slinks back into his corner.
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:35] <jb> ok hm
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:39] <SEJeff> heh
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:05] <SEJeff> You could also freeze the process while it is running and beat on it with lsof to see what it is doing
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:15] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094899
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:17] <SEJeff> With that + strace you should be able to mostly reverse engineer what is happening
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:19] <jb> it was stuck here for a bit..
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:24] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1094899 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:42] <SEJeff> Is it still running?
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:45] <jb> yes
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:46] <SEJeff> If so CTRL Z
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:50] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:53] <SEJeff> That freezes the process
[07-Aug-2008 17:21:28] <SEJeff> "ps -efH" to show a treeview of the process table. Then find the strace and the python instance with zenperfsnmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:21:51] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:09] <SEJeff> hmmmm can you paste the entire log please?
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:32] <jb> its 19MB
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:46] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:47] <SEJeff> Ok nevermind
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:51] <jb> i can if you would like?
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:58] <SEJeff> Ok here is what I'd like you to do
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:04] <BMDan> Or ls -l /proc/$(pidof <processname>)/fd
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:18] <SEJeff> lsof hides that all from you though
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:20] <BMDan> Easier than lsof, and gives you the fd numbers (not sure if lsof does that, does it?)
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:58] <SEJeff> BMDan, yes it does
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:36] <SEJeff> Shameless plug to a blog I wrote on lsof: http://digitalprognosis.com/blog/2008/02/14/troubleshooting-running-systems-with-lsof/
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Troubleshooting running systems with lsof - Open Source Awareness (at digitalprognosis.com)
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:52] <SEJeff> Look towards the bottom of the lsof of init
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:06] <SEJeff> init 1 root 10u FIFO 0,13 1108 /dev/initctl
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:17] <SEJeff> It has /dev/initctl open at fd10
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:55] <BMDan> Bah, but I can't budge around in /proc if I use a fancy-schmancy tool like lsof, now can I?
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:16] <SEJeff> BMDan, And notice the very last trick which is a poor mans lsof in that blog posting
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:17] <BMDan> Back in mah day, we loaded a kernel module if we wanted to see open descriptors. And we liked it!
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:24] <SEJeff> awk '/\//{print $NF}' /proc/1/maps | sort -u
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:50] <SEJeff> And wrote binary straight to stdin, we know
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:00] <SEJeff> jb, So anyways, here is the gameplan...
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:25] <SEJeff> Run strace until it hangs. Since it is hanging on select, it is waiting on io somewhere
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:33] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:34] <SEJeff> As soon as it hangs, CTRL Z to freeze the process
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:51] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:53] <jb> did that
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:58] <jb> 22880 12:27:24 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {234, 888653}
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:00] <SEJeff> Then you can find the pid and ls -l /proc/<pid>/fd or lsof -p <pid>
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:20] <jb> the pid of zenperfsnmp?
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:26] <SEJeff> We are trying to find out what fd 3 and fd4 are. BMDan is just showing the old peopel way to do it
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:34] <SEJeff> jb the pid of what is being strace'd
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:38] <BMDan> Is it bas that I can type this off the top of my head? /bin/echo -e '\033[1;1H\033[2J' #poor man's clear
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:00] <SEJeff> I don't have 2.2.3 up right now but something in the changelog I recall was switching from python snmp to net-snmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:15] <SEJeff> Thats why we did strace -f, I think it forks off snmpget or snmpwalk and we need to see
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:28] <SEJeff> lol @ BMDan. That is impressive
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:52] <SEJeff> jb, So after zenperfsnmp is frozen, run "ps -efH" to get a tree view process listing
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:57] <BMDan> Last one, I promise: strace -fF might give you even more info, if you're in the mood for pain. Now, lemme see if I can craft some Perl for you...
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:02] <SEJeff> Find zenperfsnmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:12] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yeah, but that is pretty nuts
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:37] <SEJeff> jb, find zenperfsnmp and then see if their are any child processes. Do you see anything? If so, can you paste the output of ps?
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:05] <jb> 22128
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:06] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22127 21687 3 12:16 pts/1 00:00:24 strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22128 22127 1 12:16 pts/1 00:00:13 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22879 21687 11 12:26 pts/1 00:00:28 strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:16] <jb> zenoss 22880 22879 6 12:26 pts/1 00:00:17 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:19] <jb> ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:59] <SEJeff> jb, You compiled this yourself?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:02] <jb> nope
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:08] <jb> stack installer uses /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:20] <SEJeff> uggg. Debian?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:22] <jb> nope
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:24] <jb> cent5
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:29] <SEJeff> Why not use the rpms?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:34] <SEJeff> Much easier to manage that way
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:43] <jb> the stack is the preferred method?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:50] <jb> i did use RPM's, but switched to the Stack installer
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:10] <SEJeff> I don't work for zenoss. From a management perspective rpms are much easier. It doesn't matter though
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:16] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:18] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:30] <SEJeff> Can you paste that in pastebin or something
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:40] <SEJeff> Sorry it is hard to look at in irc with messed up linebreaks
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:55] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:00] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094908
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 1094908 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:12] <jb> hrm.. two straces
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:32] <SEJeff> Ok so you have two
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:35] <SEJeff> Type jobs
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:44] <SEJeff> You probably have two frozen ones, no biggy
[07-Aug-2008 17:35:30] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:35:50] <SEJeff> Kill the top one
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:00] <SEJeff> As the second one likely overwrote the log from the first
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:16] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:57] <SEJeff> then run lsof -p 22880 | less
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:10] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:20] <SEJeff> In the FD column, you are looking for the fds in the second argument in the select statement from the strace
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:24] <SEJeff> Do you understand why we are doing this?
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:48] <jb> to match the FDs
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:52] <jb> and see what that FD was doing
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:55] <jb> at the time that it hung?
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:57] <SEJeff> ok good
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:11] <jb> 22880 12:27:24 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {234, 888653}
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:12] <SEJeff> Well you froze it at the exact time it hung, so it should be in the same state
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:12] <SEJeff> Yes
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:18] <SEJeff> So fd3 and fd4
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:37] <jb> .python.b 22880 zenoss 3u IPv4 55106070 TCP localhost.localdomain:36961->localhost.localdomain:8789 (ESTABLISHED)
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:37] <jb> .python.b 22880 zenoss 4r FIFO 0,6 55106060 pipe
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:41] <jb> i think thats it?
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:02] <SEJeff> Ok that is 3, what about 4
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:10] <SEJeff> Oh wait, yeah that is it
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:53] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:44] <jb> so its TCP related
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:49] <jb> that one anyways
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:50] <SEJeff> Yup
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:57] <SEJeff> Likely something zenoss internal
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:58] <jb> but its connecting to its self?
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:59] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:16] <SEJeff> Might be something like zenperfsnmp talking to zenhub or something like that
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:25] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:27] <SEJeff> now look through $ZENHOME/logs and see if you can find anything crazy
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:32] <jb> will do
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:32] <SEJeff> This might take some time to track down
[07-Aug-2008 17:47:56] <SEJeff> Can you do: ps -efH | egrep '[2]2880'
[07-Aug-2008 17:48:17] <SEJeff> It will probably be zenperfsnmp, but just it might not be
[07-Aug-2008 17:49:06] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~$ ps -efH | egrep '[2]2880'
[07-Aug-2008 17:49:06] <jb> zenoss 22880 22879 1 12:26 pts/1 00:00:17 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:50:01] <SEJeff> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:50:41] <SEJeff> hmmmmm. This is a zenoss internal issue. You should probably file a bug and / or shoot an email to the list
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:06] <BMDan> If you attach gdb to the process, you can see the call stack.
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:11] <BMDan> That might illuminate the issue a bit further.
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:38] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yes, but gdb of python is a bit extreme when a zenoss dev should be able to figure it out, right?
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:39] <BMDan> Admittedly, it'll be a call stack rooted in bytecode, but the bytecode comes back out and calls "real" functions, so you'll still be pulling good data.
[07-Aug-2008 17:57:44] <BMDan> SEJeff: *everything* I do is "a bit extreme". There is no systems administration problem that cannot be resolved by the direct application of thermonuclear weaponry.
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:37] <SEJeff> Or a really big hammer
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:49] <BMDan> Old story, but a goodie:
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:58] <BMDan> Large IBM machine was malfunctioning.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:03] <BMDan> On-site developers tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:08] <BMDan> On-site sysadmins tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:15] <BMDan> Contractors tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:30] <SEJeff> all failed /me assumes
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:35] <BMDan> Yep.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:56] <BMDan> Finally, they had to call IBM, even though their support contract had expired. They bought a 1-incident on-site support contract for $10,000.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:11] <BMDan> The IBM guy flew out, listened to each of the groups explain the problem and what they'd done to try to solve it.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:29] <BMDan> Approached the malfunctioning part in question, reared back, and gave it a mighty kick.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:34] <BMDan> The system immediately began working.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:47] <BMDan> He then asked for the check to be sent, and prepared to leave.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:55] <BMDan> The owners stopped him.
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:07] <BMDan> "But all you did is kick the box!" they protested.
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:27] <BMDan> "Yes," he replied. "But you didn't pay me $10,000 to kick the box. You paid me $10,000 to know WHERE to kick the box."
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:46] <SEJeff> Thats why we get paid
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:52] <SEJeff> Do you work for zenoss?
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:11] <BMDan> Nope. We're evaluating Zenoss right now. Gotta say, as compared to Nagios, I'm not impressed thus far.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:20] <SEJeff> How come?
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:31] <BMDan> Lots of extra features, as long as you do *exactly* what the Zenoss developers envisioned you doing.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:47] <BMDan> As soon as you branch outside of that framework, things become obtuse as hell.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:50] <SEJeff> It does things VERY differently. My initial thought was to roll out nagios + cacti and be done with it
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:54] <SEJeff> But you can script it all...
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:59] <SEJeff> zendmd is the holy grail of monitoring
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:01] <BMDan> I don't want to define a MIB just to monitor a single OID.
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:09] <SEJeff> What are you talking about?
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:12] <SEJeff> You dont have to
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:14] <BMDan> I just want to execute a @#($$ snmpget.
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:17] <BMDan> orly?
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:28] <BMDan> Tell me more, I was trying to get this answer yesterday and they told me, "Tough luck."
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:16] <SEJeff> for monitoring or for trending
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:26] <SEJeff> And if you prefer the nagios way, you can call snmpget directly
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:29] <SEJeff> fyi
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:34] <C_Kode> Why do OS Processes that you are moniting just disappear sometimes?
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:18] <BMDan> I just want to know whether a certain OID reads "OK". It's a custom "pass" script from net-snmp's snmpd.conf, so there is no associated MIB, or documentation, or anything else, it's just something I threw together on top of the vendor's RAID controller CLI.
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:47] <SEJeff> Let me guess, MegaCLI
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:54] <nate187> Has anyone tried adding a radar image overlay to the maps?
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:59] <BMDan> SEJeff: ??? No.
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:04] <SEJeff> Ok nvm
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:24] <Nolar> anybody know if remote collectors are avail in Core, or just enterprise edition?
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:25] <SEJeff> You could create a /Cmd/Fail event and have it run the check exactly like you would do in nagios
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:33] <BMDan> SEJeff: Google "tw_bm cacti".
[07-Aug-2008 18:07:55] <SEJeff> gotcha
[07-Aug-2008 18:08:29] <jatindergiri> Hello, I am new zenoss, I installed net-snmp on fedora and zenoss is already picking up all the system status, now I am trying to figure out how to graph bandwidth usage?
[07-Aug-2008 18:10:45] <mrayzenoss> Nolar: you can do remote collectors like this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[07-Aug-2008 18:10:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 18:11:49] <Nolar> mrayzenoss huzzah! thanks
[07-Aug-2008 18:12:15] <mrayzenoss> jatindergiri: Does your router expose bandwidth info via SNMP? That's a way
[07-Aug-2008 18:13:21] <jatindergiri> well it's fedora
[07-Aug-2008 18:15:06] <mrayzenoss> so you want to monitor what exactly?
[07-Aug-2008 18:15:13] <mrayzenoss> current bandwidth usage?
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:07] <jatindergiri> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:17] <jatindergiri> in and out
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:48] <jatindergiri> I guess i can do it from switch , but i was wondering if i could directly form OS
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:53] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, I'm the annoying Jeff guy that emails you. Hi
[07-Aug-2008 18:18:41] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: greetings. I realized I hadn't checked in here enough, there's always too much to do
[07-Aug-2008 18:19:47] <mrayzenoss> jatindergiri: It seems like there should already be a solution for this, you could probably configure your snmpd to expose the information. But the switch is easier
[07-Aug-2008 18:20:42] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: I'm looking for a good answer to why you can't make a Trac account
[07-Aug-2008 18:20:53] <mrayzenoss> that seems dumb, I thought you could
[07-Aug-2008 18:21:50] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, I've asked chet about it also during our enterprise eval
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:12] <SEJeff> They want a shared zenoss user, but that is silly. Did the reason in that email make sense why?
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:14] <mrayzenoss> did he have an answer?
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:25] <mrayzenoss> I agree that the shared Zenoss user is silly
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:33] <SEJeff> It was a fleeting comment made during another problem he did an excellent job fixing
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:43] <SEJeff> Probably just forgot. That guy is overworked
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:48] <mrayzenoss> it's not like we don't know who everyone in the company is
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:54] <mrayzenoss> yeah, Chet's got a new baby
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:05] <SEJeff> Oh wow. Well even moreso
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:17] <mrayzenoss> and he's been given more responsibility recently
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:39] <mrayzenoss> those Client Services guys work hard, I hope Nathaniel says he's enjoying it
[07-Aug-2008 18:25:51] <SEJeff> yeah he is
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:06] <monrad> anyone seen 10g interfaces being reported as 1.410Gbps in 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:44] <monrad> snmp version is v2c
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:53] <mrayzenoss> monrad: yeah, I can't remember if the fix is for 2.2.4
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:59] <mrayzenoss> monrad: there's a ticket somewhere for that
[07-Aug-2008 18:32:31] <monrad> mrayzenoss: thanks
[07-Aug-2008 18:32:48] <monrad> i finally got myself a test server to try stuff on
[07-Aug-2008 18:33:01] <monrad> so now i can test stuff before upgrading
[07-Aug-2008 18:35:02] <MajereDB8> hi, i just wanted to drop by and see if anyone had made any progress on the zenpop3 module. i remember from the last dev chat that it was not a high priority, but it never hurts to ask :-)
[07-Aug-2008 18:36:09] <mrayzenoss> MajereDB8: I don't believe I've seen anything on that
[07-Aug-2008 18:39:20] <MajereDB8> mrayzenoss: i had made a post on the dev board a few weeks ago. pjp13 posted a working fix a while ago for one of the problems i encountered, but it the rest are still up in the air. see here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6677
[07-Aug-2008 18:39:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenpop3 errors - unable to generate e-mail event (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 18:41:36] <monrad> mrayzenoss: is there any plans for rrdtool 1.3 yet?
[07-Aug-2008 18:42:06] <MajereDB8> i'm sure that you all have plenty on your plate, but i'm pretty excited about this program because if combined with the zenackevents module that edahl posted on trac, it would allow me to monitor and acknowledge events via my cell phone
[07-Aug-2008 18:42:55] <mrayzenoss> monrad: I believe it's still listed for 2.3
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:03] <monrad> nice
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:14] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3341
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:23] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3341 (upgrade to new version of RRDtool) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:30] <monrad> at least 4 and 8 gb ram sticks are getting cheap
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:42] <mrayzenoss> monrad: it hasn't been reviewed yet, but I don't know why we wouldn't upgrade
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:20] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, whoa please link me on that one
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:38] <monrad> we found out 4 gb of ram was not enough for monitoring around 1K switches
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:41] <monrad> lots of oids
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:43] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: it's actually not that complicated. most telcos provide smtp to sms gateways
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:32] <MajereDB8> the zenackevents program is on trac - revision 8250. it's just a python program that you can use to acknowledge a given zenoss event. so you can write an event transform to acknowledge an e-mail
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:39] <jb> Ok, sorry had to run out for a bit.
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:51] <MajereDB8> the problem is that zenpop3, which does event transforms upon receiving an e-mail, needs some work.
[07-Aug-2008 18:46:08] <jb> mrayzenoss: hey, did you happen to see the issue that I (and some others have had) with zenperfsnmp?
[07-Aug-2008 18:47:10] <mrayzenoss> jb: possibly. I'm still catching up from vacation. Is it the one about ZenHub stopping monitoring?
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:35] <jb> mrayzenoss: well, it stemmed from me having large gaps in my perfgraphs.. when I run zenperfsnmp it randomly hangs
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:40] <jb> which I assume is making the gaps
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:50] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, You can't do that with evt._action = ...
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:51] <jb> and it hangs on a TCP connection to its self
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:05] <mrayzenoss> jb: thread?
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:09] <mrayzenoss> O
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:20] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:21] <mrayzenoss> I'm looking at 260 unread posts in Zenoss-Users
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:23] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:25] <SEJeff> We did a lot of troubleshooting here on irc
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:29] <jb> im still doing some diagnosing
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:34] <jb> but most of it is on irc, yeah
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:37] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Want me to copy / paste it to you somewhere?
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:45] <jb> there is a thread in the forums though
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:50] <jb> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23452#23452
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:55] <SEJeff> Or are the #zenoss logs from zenoss-logger public?
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:10] <mrayzenoss> the logs usually show up a month late
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:30] <mrayzenoss> another thing to fix on the community website
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:52] <jb> along with the horrendus speed?
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:02] <mrayzenoss> no doubt, it's acting slow
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:04] <telexicon> im considering trying zenoss again, has the stability improved lately?
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:13] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: what can't you do with evt.action? sorry, i'm not following you
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:49] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Why do you need a new daemon. Can't you do something like evt._action = "acknowledged" or something?
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:07] <SEJeff> That isn't exact. I use evt._action = "drop" on a bunch of whitenoise
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:29] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'll get this looked at, I think there was some discussion around it at the bug review this morning
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:36] <jb> ah good
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:40] <jb> im doing more diagnostics now
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:46] <jb> and I will post my results in that thread
[07-Aug-2008 18:53:22] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: oh, sure. zenackevents can acknowledge any event id, which makes it easier.
[07-Aug-2008 18:54:52] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Can you give me an example of how it can do something a normal transform can't? Sorry
[07-Aug-2008 18:54:56] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, http://www.digitalprognosis.com/zenoss-chat-log-with-jb.txt
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:25] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: it's also a way to acknowledge events from the command line. i think that's the main reason he wrote the app, it was just timely when i brought up the point
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:28] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Save that off if you want to look at it. It will be deleted in ~10 minutes
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:43] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Yeah that is a pretty big deal
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> SEJeff: did it again..
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> .python.b 28167 zenoss 3u IPv4 55161055 TCP localhost.localdomain:39052->localhost.localdomain:8789 (ESTABLISHED)
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> .python.b 28167 zenoss 4r FIFO 0,6 55161044 pipe
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:47] <jb> same thing
[07-Aug-2008 18:56:47] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: don't get me wrong, i think you're right. the more elegant solution is to use an event transform. it just makes sense. the main problem for me is that i need to be able to acknowledge events from something that won't have internet access, or at least won't have a graphical web browser
[07-Aug-2008 18:57:12] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, No that is great. I was just curious. I'll likely download and play with that script also
[07-Aug-2008 18:57:30] <SEJeff> jb, It is something internal to ZenOSS. Sorry I couldn't track down the prob farther
[07-Aug-2008 18:59:03] <jb> mrayzenoss: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23460#23460
[07-Aug-2008 18:59:06] <jb> has all the details..
[07-Aug-2008 19:05:37] <mrayzenoss> I've got the developer assigned to support looking at the gaps issue
[07-Aug-2008 19:05:47] <mrayzenoss> he said he's seen it with some Enterprise customers
[07-Aug-2008 19:06:00] <mrayzenoss> if we can find it today or tomorrow, it might make 2.2.4
[07-Aug-2008 19:08:35] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3536#preview
[07-Aug-2008 19:08:37] <jb> ticket created..
[07-Aug-2008 19:08:43] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3536 (Gaps in RRD Graphs because of random zenperfsnmp pauses/halts) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:09:09] <jb> mrayzenoss: thanks
[07-Aug-2008 19:09:56] <mrayzenoss> I'm gonna have to duck out for a bit, Chet and the L3 dev are looking at the issue
[07-Aug-2008 19:10:41] <jb> awesome
[07-Aug-2008 19:10:45] <jb> thanks again
[07-Aug-2008 19:11:00] <mrayzenoss> we're hoping to get 2.2.4 out early next week
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:16] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:23] <mrayzenoss> turns out there's another CS guy working on it, lots of people were on it
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:32] <jb> so im not the first person to report it?
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:50] <mrayzenoss> I'm curious why there was no ticket already
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:59] <mrayzenoss> but yeah, CS was looking at it
[07-Aug-2008 19:13:00] <jb> i just really noticed it today
[07-Aug-2008 19:13:32] <mrayzenoss> the tend to find the problem, fix it for customers and then open a ticket for dev to check it in to the releases
[07-Aug-2008 19:13:44] <mrayzenoss> but no fix yet
[07-Aug-2008 19:16:57] <monrad> its nice that zenping does not block anymore when calculating the ping tree
[07-Aug-2008 19:18:15] <monrad> it is kinda bad when zenping takes more than a few mins to calculate it and not pinging anything
[07-Aug-2008 19:18:35] <ckrough> anymore since what version
[07-Aug-2008 19:18:53] <monrad> 2.2.0 i think
[07-Aug-2008 19:19:01] <monrad> it is moved to zenhub i think
[07-Aug-2008 19:19:07] <ckrough> ah, yeah
[07-Aug-2008 19:19:52] <monrad> i like the idea about the ping tree but with all our core routers with full bgp feed is it kinda a no go
[07-Aug-2008 19:23:14] <C_Kode> Where can I get the current version of Zenoss? Do I need to do this from a command line? I cannot locate it in the GUI
[07-Aug-2008 19:24:16] <mrayzenoss> C_Kode: Settings->Versions
[07-Aug-2008 19:24:28] <C_Kode> Thanks
[07-Aug-2008 19:25:26] <C_Kode> Hmm.. I have disppearing OS Processes. I found this thread http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6669&highlight=process+disappear but someone said 2.2.3 fixed it. I'm running 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 19:25:41] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Disappearing OS Processes (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:26:58] <C_Kode> If I lock the process, it no longer updates the performace graphs
[07-Aug-2008 19:38:00] <mrayzenoss> jb: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23461#23461
[07-Aug-2008 19:38:21] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Gaps in Graphs after upgrading to 2.2.3 (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:39:19] <MajereDB8> mrayzenoss: does zenpatch automatically pull the revision requested from the source repository? that's pretty slick
[07-Aug-2008 19:39:28] <jb> ah I will try that!
[07-Aug-2008 19:40:03] <mrayzenoss> MajereDB8: it's new to me
[07-Aug-2008 19:42:44] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 19:42:45] <monrad> nice feature
[07-Aug-2008 19:42:49] <jb> same problem with the patch
[07-Aug-2008 19:43:09] <jb> (zenpatch is sorta slick tho)
[07-Aug-2008 19:44:57] <monrad> nice i just patched zentrap too
[07-Aug-2008 19:46:01] <MajereDB8> monrad: did it automatically stop/restart and set permissions?
[07-Aug-2008 19:47:05] <MajereDB8> if so that's a pretty decent time saver
[07-Aug-2008 19:47:34] <monrad> it did not stop/restart
[07-Aug-2008 19:47:46] <monrad> but i am running zenbatchload too right now so thats ok
[07-Aug-2008 19:48:04] <monrad> i think permissions are fine as long as i run as the zenoss user
[07-Aug-2008 19:50:44] <monrad> performance with 2.2.3 is much better
[07-Aug-2008 19:52:34] <SEJeff> monrad, Can you elaborate on that a bit? How is perf better?
[07-Aug-2008 19:53:26] <monrad> its mostly with zenperfsnmpd
[07-Aug-2008 19:53:35] <monrad> i think rrdtool uses less ram
[07-Aug-2008 19:54:31] <monrad> right now i am outperforming the production server that has 4 gb of ram and all the rrdfiles on a SAN
[07-Aug-2008 19:54:57] <monrad> with a box with 2 gb of ram and the rrdfiles on normal raid 1 sas hds
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:20] <SEJeff> monrad, mount the volume noatime
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:25] <SEJeff> It does wonders
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:39] <SEJeff> If you look at the graphs a lot, mount /tmp/renderserver as a tmpfs also
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:46] <SEJeff> That makes graph creation virtually instant
[07-Aug-2008 19:56:08] <monrad> SEJeff: it is
[07-Aug-2008 19:56:18] <monrad> ah nice trick
[07-Aug-2008 19:56:37] <monrad> it is mounted with noatime that is
[07-Aug-2008 19:57:20] <SEJeff> What filesystem?
[07-Aug-2008 19:57:32] <SEJeff> If it is ext3, use tune2fs and enable the dir_index option
[07-Aug-2008 19:57:51] <monrad> its xfs
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:03] <monrad> the test one is ext3
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:05] <SEJeff> hmmmmm how does that perform?
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:13] <monrad> not bad
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:22] <SEJeff> I didn't think xfs did really well with small files. it was written for big files
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:38] <monrad> but the SAN performes pretty good
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:45] <SEJeff> Sure
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:05] <monrad> the only real performance problem i ran into is when i cant cache the rrd files in ram anymore
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:10] <jb> hmm
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:18] <SEJeff> We put it on hp servers with 8 sas disks
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:22] <jb> you are setting noatime on the partition with the RRDs?
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:30] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: could you add that tmpfs trick as a tip http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:36] <SEJeff> Yeah sure
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:44] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Tips and Tricks - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:58] <SEJeff> monrad, Yeah, we have 12GB in our zenoss server
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:01] <SEJeff> For that reason
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:12] <jb> i would need to noatime my entire /usr
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:14] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:27] <SEJeff> Oh you have it in /usr/local
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:35] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:41] <SEJeff> I mounted /opt/zenoss/perf as noatime
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:54] <SEJeff> Made that directory it's own volume on a seperate raid group
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:58] <jb> well i'm not running into io issues anyways right now..
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:17] <jb> i could slice out a new LV for /tmp/renderserver tho
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:23] <jb> that really makes a big difference?
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:47] <monrad> SEJeff: we talked about just using some ramfs for rrd storage
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:59] <SEJeff> monrad, ramfs is block based and fixed size
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:59] <monrad> its not a big loss if we lost a day of them
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:13] <SEJeff> tmpfs is dynamic based on the usage
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:21] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:22] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:23] <mrayzenoss> tmpfs is the shit
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:27] <SEJeff> So long as you have enough ram and know the app won't go crazy, tmpfs is better
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:28] <SEJeff> yup
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:40] <mrayzenoss> I used it for diskless RAM-based point of sales
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:58] <SEJeff> So on that network engineer's desktop, we took graph creation from ~2 minutes ---> 3 seconds
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:12] <monrad> it would be nice to have a disk backed ram fs
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:23] <jb> wow
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:31] <SEJeff> monrad: ramback. daniel phillip posted it to lkml
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:53] <jb> how big did you make your tmpfs for renderserver?
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:58] <SEJeff> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/3/10/16
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:07] <__adytum-bot__> Title: LKML: Daniel Phillips: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet (at lkml.org)
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:13] <SEJeff> jb, tmpfs is dynamic based on usage. You don't set a fixed size
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:19] <SEJeff> you set a fixed size for a ramfs
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:20] <jb> ah
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:42] <SEJeff> rrds are static in size and never grow. Once they are all created you know how much space they will take up
[07-Aug-2008 20:05:00] <jb> so how did you implement it?
[07-Aug-2008 20:05:08] <jb> sorry, never worked with tmpfs
[07-Aug-2008 20:05:43] <jb> tmpfs /tmp/renderserver noatime 0 0 or so in fstab?
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:17] <SEJeff> noatime on a tmpfs isn't going to do a lot
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:27] <SEJeff> the noatime is on the volume that contains /opt/zenoss/perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:36] <jb> oh ok.
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:39] <SEJeff> I actually mount /opt/zenoss/perf on it's own volume with noatime
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:46] <SEJeff> Then mount /tmp/renderserver as a tmpfs
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:52] <SEJeff> Make sense?
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:03] <jb> tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /tmp/renderserver
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:06] <jb> there we go..
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:07] <jb> yep
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:11] <SEJeff> Then /opt is on a raid1 pair
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:23] <jb> how many devices are you monitoring?
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:46] <SEJeff> Not at liberty to discuss my companies environment in super detail
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:50] <SEJeff> Work for a hedge fund
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:53] <jb> ah..
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:04] <ckrough> defaults,noatime,nodiratime on perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:08] <SEJeff> I can discuss the technology that isn't related to our intellectual property
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:15] <ckrough> the noatime made a major difference
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:26] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:26] <SEJeff> ckrough, unless you are using a 2.4 kernel, noatime inferrs nodiratime
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:33] <jb> im going to create a new partition for 'perf'
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:47] <SEJeff> jb, You will notice a big perf increase
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:50] <ckrough> SEJeff: ah, didnt know. thanks
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:57] <SEJeff> ckrough, no prob
[07-Aug-2008 20:09:17] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, will try to add a "speeding up zenoss" tip later today
[07-Aug-2008 20:09:57] <mrayzenoss> thanks
[07-Aug-2008 20:10:04] <monrad> i should use more time on zenoss but its not my primary work function, and there is lots of work to do on the network
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:02] <monrad> but we moved to zenoss because its more snmp friendly than nagios and easyer to manage than the nagios/cacti combo we used before
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:25] <monrad> jb: how big an setup do you have? number of units polled?
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:31] <monrad> we do around 1500 right now
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:48] <jb> only around ~105-110 right now
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:49] <monrad> mostly switches
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:52] <jb> mostly servers
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:08] <jb> our windows environment is monitored using MOM
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:14] <jb> we only use zen for AIX/Linux
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:36] <SEJeff> jb, monitor your windows environment with zenoss and then show them the nice graphs
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:50] <jb> well, i do monitor the windows stuff that I am responsible for
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:50] <SEJeff> Anything you can get through the performance monitor on windows, you can get graphed in zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:52] <jb> its actually ironic
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:00] <monrad> i think we have around 100-200 servers too
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:02] <jb> i am monitoring our solarwinds windows boxes with zen
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:09] <SEJeff> Yes that is funny
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:15] <jb> we use solarwinds for all network devices..
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:18] <jb> ~2000
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:29] <SEJeff> ok so you're a small shop ;-)
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:38] <jb> not THAT small
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:52] <monrad> jb: what do you do?
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:06] <jb> in the book/education industry..
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:18] <monrad> we are a medium size isp (well medium sized for an danish isp)
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:30] <jb> we have ~900 locations thru out the USA, and our headquarters are in Chicago..
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:53] <jb> SEJeff: so is your "perf" ext3?
[07-Aug-2008 20:15:23] <SEJeff> jb, yes, I've had way way too many bad experiences with reiserfs and ext3 has always worked
[07-Aug-2008 20:15:30] <jb> yeah i agree
[07-Aug-2008 20:15:34] <SEJeff> too many non-recoverable errors on reiser
[07-Aug-2008 20:16:06] <ckrough> are you using local storage or san SEJeff
[07-Aug-2008 20:16:13] <jb> local here for now..
[07-Aug-2008 20:16:31] <ckrough> we went san then back to local for performance reasons
[07-Aug-2008 20:17:35] <SEJeff> ckrough, Local storage
[07-Aug-2008 20:17:56] <SEJeff> 2 disk raid1 for the os and most of zenoss. 6 disk raid 10 for /opt/zenoss/perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:18:29] <SEJeff> Huge waste of disk space, but it works really well
[07-Aug-2008 20:18:41] <SEJeff> We got 12GB of ram though. That is the key is that ton of ram
[07-Aug-2008 20:18:59] <monrad> yeah raid 10 performes pretty nice
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:02] <jb> ./dev/mapper/vg01-perflv
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:02] <jb> 9.9G 153M 9.2G 2% /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:03] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:05] <jb> there we go..
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:08] <jb> noatime set on that
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:31] <SEJeff> now just "iostat 1" when zenoss is writing to it and watch how much better it is
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:38] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:02] <SEJeff> monrad, We do 1 second snmp polling on our network devices
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:02] <ckrough> SEJeff: same exact as us, except we put all of /opt/zenoss on the 1+0, and we are running 32g ram
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:11] <monrad> 1 second?
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:12] <monrad> damn
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:14] <ckrough> ouch
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:15] <SEJeff> ckrough, Oh that must be great
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:30] <ckrough> it's works well
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:31] <SEJeff> ckrough, Yeah coming up with the right RRA settings to create the rrds was a pain
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:54] <SEJeff> ckrough, I considered all of zenoss on the raid 10 but didn't like that idea
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:04] <jb> im all RAID5 here..
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:21] <monrad> i am trying to write an sflow parser and with sflow counter packets coming each 20. sec from each interface should be enough
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:28] <ckrough> We went as fast as 30s but the disk I/O was too much. may be time to try it again now that the hw is beefed up more
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:28] <SEJeff> raid5 should be avoided if you have enough disks for 1+0
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:41] <ckrough> jb: 5 will kill you on the perf mount
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:47] <monrad> most of our ports are end user ports so no need to poll that much data
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:51] <SEJeff> ckrough, Take a look at distributed collectors
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:00] <ckrough> there is a lot of overhead on writes, which is where most of your IOwait is going to come from
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:00] <jb> yeah, i know..
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:05] <jb> but IO is not a problem for me now
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:08] <SEJeff> yup
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:15] <jb> i will rebuild a 1+0/10 when it does..
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:22] <ckrough> SEJeff: yeah, we are distributed
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:29] <jb> are you guys runing core?
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:32] <ckrough> ent
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:34] <SEJeff> One of our requirements for Zenoss was that we could do 1second polling on all ports of our switches.
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:39] <SEJeff> ent and core
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:51] <SEJeff> brb, meeting
[07-Aug-2008 20:23:15] <ckrough> running 20 boxes for it now.
[07-Aug-2008 20:23:34] <monrad> we use core
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:04] <monrad> we are trying to make a profit soo expenses is kinda frowned upon
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:25] <monrad> we are still a bit in the red but its much closer than it has been
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:33] <ckrough> whats your business
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:42] <jb> actually i think my rrd renders are slower now
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:43] <jb> seriously
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:00] <mrayzenoss> jb: since Chet's patch?
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:05] <jb> no since tmpfs..
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:09] <mrayzenoss> ahh
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:12] <jb> but chet's patch didn't fix my problem
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:15] <ckrough> slower?
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:17] <jb> i replied inthe thread..
[07-Aug-2008 20:26:10] meteoroid__ is now known as meteoroid
[07-Aug-2008 20:26:14] <jb>
[07-Aug-2008 20:27:44] <monrad> ckrough: ISP for appartment complexes and such in dk, we are trying to branch into business customers too
[07-Aug-2008 21:09:03] <SEJeff> jb, You have to be kidding?
[07-Aug-2008 21:09:14] <SEJeff> disks can never be as fast as ram
[07-Aug-2008 21:09:21] <SEJeff> Something else must have changed
[07-Aug-2008 21:12:55] <jb> actually, after testing, it's about the same
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:15] <SEJeff> That just means you have a different bottleneck
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:18] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:26] <jb> i just want my graphs to not have gaps
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:30] <SEJeff> Still blocking select() ?
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:34] <jb> yeh
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:37] <jb> the patch didnt work
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:42] <SEJeff> hmmmmmmm
[07-Aug-2008 21:17:23] <jb> guess i'll just wait for another response from chet
[07-Aug-2008 21:17:42] <jb> as it definetely looks like an internal prblem..
[07-Aug-2008 21:18:41] <SEJeff> Well once we saw it was zenoss <---> zenoss communication that part was apparrent
[07-Aug-2008 21:18:49] <SEJeff> At least these guys are support rockstars
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> SEJeff, i'm try to update my zenoss box (with how to to update) but in the manual show that command: root# conary migrate --interactive
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> zenoss:core-2.2
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> but conary there isn't!!
[07-Aug-2008 21:20:06] <shyru> any solution?
[07-Aug-2008 21:22:11] <mrayzenoss> shyru: dumb question, this is with the VMware image?
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:09] <shyru> mrayzenoss, noup! my old zenoss is 2.1.x want to update to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:34] <mrayzenoss> the conary command is called from within the VMware installation only
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:41] <mrayzenoss> what version was your 2.1.x?
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:45] <mrayzenoss> source? rpm?
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:48] <shyru> rpm
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:59] <shyru> 2.1.1
[07-Aug-2008 21:25:28] <shyru> sorry 2.1.3
[07-Aug-2008 21:25:45] <shyru> and i was update to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 21:25:57] <mrayzenoss> try this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[07-Aug-2008 21:26:09] <mrayzenoss> with the RPM instructions
[07-Aug-2008 21:26:11] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 21:26:28] <mrayzenoss> for EL4 or EL5 (works for CentOS as well)
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:13] <shyru> mrayzenoss, thats right but i stopped in this steps:
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> If you would like to upgrade to the 2.1.x version of Zenoss,
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> run this command:
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> root# conary migrate --interactive
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> zenoss:core
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:55] <shyru> but conary does not exist well there isn't!
[07-Aug-2008 21:28:05] <mrayzenoss> shyru: yeah, that's in the ** Zenoss Virtual Appliance Image section
[07-Aug-2008 21:28:33] <mrayzenoss> the section ** EL4 or EL5 RPMs should cover you
[07-Aug-2008 21:29:33] <shyru> ups! let me see!
[07-Aug-2008 21:30:39] <shyru> oh my god is it true!
[07-Aug-2008 21:30:53] <jb> be very careful going from 2.1.x -> 2.2
[07-Aug-2008 21:31:02] <jb> make sure you have good backups
[07-Aug-2008 21:31:24] <shyru> mrayzenoss, but after to update my objects does not there!
[07-Aug-2008 21:31:43] <shyru> jb thanks i made backup
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:28] <shyru> damm!
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:37] <shyru> After install is complete migrate your data as the zenoss user:
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:37] <shyru> root# su - zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:37] <shyru> zenoss$ zenmigrate
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:39] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 21:36:25] <SEJeff> shyru, Did that fix it for you?
[07-Aug-2008 21:44:54] <npmccallum> SEJeff: sup?
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:07] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Hey man
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:29] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Working on getting network stats on Linux with zenoss. Will be a snmp master before the end of this
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:36] <SEJeff> not by choice
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:48] <npmccallum> please document the steps, etc
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:54] <npmccallum> so it can be merged...
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:19] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, and I chatted for a bit in priv. Dont worry
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:33] <npmccallum> in priv, really?
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:37] <npmccallum> did he hit on you?
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:42] <npmccallum> he does that sometimes...
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:45] <SEJeff> Only 3 times
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:51] * mrayzenoss sighs
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:59] <npmccallum> we usually just try to laugh it off
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:12] <npmccallum> but I'm seeing a therapist now
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:13] <mrayzenoss> Glad this will be up on the IRC log next month
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:16] <npmccallum>
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:19] <SEJeff> awesome
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:20] <jb> hah
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:43] <SEJeff> sed -i '/npmccallum/d' zenoss-irc-$(date %Y%m%d).log
[07-Aug-2008 21:48:18] <npmccallum> SEJeff: I'd just do it for all dates... I don't have much to contribute
[07-Aug-2008 21:48:32] <SEJeff> Yeah, you work for them. Gross
[07-Aug-2008 21:48:40] <npmccallum> other than uber-1337 awk
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:04] <SEJeff> You should seriously send that back to the original check_tcpstats author
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:13] <SEJeff> Besides blowing his mind... It is much better. in every way
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:33] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: did you see my new check_tcpstats?
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:48] <jb> whats new about it?
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:49] <SEJeff> It is this awesome 1 liner. No seriously.
[07-Aug-2008 21:51:05] <npmccallum> where is that link to the original?
[07-Aug-2008 21:51:11] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 21:51:45] <SEJeff> http://faculty.adams.edu/~rbsmith/zenpacks/check_tcpstats
[07-Aug-2008 21:52:17] <SEJeff> http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/scripts/check_tcpstats here is a whitespaced version of your 1liner npmccallum
[07-Aug-2008 21:53:25] <SEJeff> that mad argv checking was all me
[07-Aug-2008 21:53:45] <npmccallum> you know I always leave you to fill in my arg checking
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:08] <SEJeff> Someone has to clean up after your mess. Kids these days...
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:20] <jb> Yawn.. I'm out for the day.
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:23] <jb> Goodnight.
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:25] <npmccallum> and no, I won't turn down my music
[07-Aug-2008 22:03:26] <mrayzenoss> sorry, ducked out to talk about fixing the ZenPerfSNMP issue
[07-Aug-2008 22:04:04] <mrayzenoss> npmccallum: didn't see your update
[07-Aug-2008 22:04:25] <npmccallum> SEJeff posted the link above
[07-Aug-2008 22:04:39] <npmccallum> it basically replaces a hacky script with a one-liner awk
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:01] <SEJeff> And in benchmarking is consistently faster + has no temp file
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:15] <mrayzenoss> very cool
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:18] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: SEJeff is going to work on some updates to linux networking stuff
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:26] <npmccallum> which I think could be good
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:33] <SEJeff> If they would be integrated into core...
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:35] <mrayzenoss> so he'll contribute an updated ImprovedLinux ZenPack?
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:40] <SEJeff> No point in packaging them up if they won't
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:44] <mrayzenoss> npmccallum's working on that
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:54] <SEJeff> Alright
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:59] <npmccallum> I don't think a ZenPack is the best medium for it though
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:00] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: if we get it in now, people can use it with 2.2.x
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:03] <npmccallum> I could be wrong
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:08] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, True
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:14] <SEJeff> But this should be out of the box functionality
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:23] <npmccallum> since it is a built in template, doing it as a migrate script is the "right way"
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:03] <npmccallum> ZenPacks that override built-in objects should be forbidden and beaten with a stick
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:16] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Oh you mean like Improved Linux?
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:17] <npmccallum> because they break stuff...
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:36] <SEJeff> The one that caused so much trouble until you were a rockstar and fixed
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:49] <mrayzenoss> there may be others that do that, somebody should check them all when they have lots of free time
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:50] <SEJeff> npmccallum, I was considering creating a template named IpInterface under /Devices/Server/Linux
[07-Aug-2008 22:08:04] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Sounds like something for a script to do
[07-Aug-2008 22:09:05] <shyru> SEJeff,
[07-Aug-2008 22:09:35] <shyru> SEJeff, the manual help me to upgrade my zenoss box
[07-Aug-2008 22:09:50] <shyru> thanks! SEJeff thanks mrayzenoss
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:03] <SEJeff> shyru, Awesome! You're welcome
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:10] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:28] <mrayzenoss> good to hear it
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:29] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Based on our conversation, that would apply to the Linux server's because they already have the IpInterface class. Right?
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:37] <SEJeff> *servers
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:50] <npmccallum> Is there no IpInterface class higher up the chain?
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:52] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:57] <npmccallum> s/class/template/
[07-Aug-2008 22:11:34] <SEJeff> But zenoss applies things at the lowest level possible
[07-Aug-2008 22:11:50] <SEJeff> So if there is an IpInterface template lower, it would apply
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:19] <npmccallum> right
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:25] <npmccallum> you would be overriding the lower object
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:28] <SEJeff> And there are no templates named IpInterface anywhere
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:53] <npmccallum> BTW
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:56] <SEJeff> Hence the reason I wanted to use it. To prevent the nightmare when removing it (if installed as a zenpack)
[07-Aug-2008 22:13:28] <npmccallum> I would think that the snmpnetstat stuff should go in an IpInterface templates AND specify the "-CI $if" option
[07-Aug-2008 22:13:46] <npmccallum> that way you get the netstat on a per-interface basis...
[07-Aug-2008 22:14:27] <npmccallum> I was also thinking that it could go under process monitoring
[07-Aug-2008 22:14:51] <SEJeff> npmccallum, I think it should be a python script that is part of zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 22:15:05] <SEJeff> and berid check_tcpstats altogether
[07-Aug-2008 22:15:31] <SEJeff> Sorry my engrish is so horrible today
[07-Aug-2008 22:16:14] <SEJeff> and with "-CI $if", how would you have it dynamically populate that? What if you have some servers with 4 nics and some with 2 or even 1?
[07-Aug-2008 22:16:40] <npmccallum> Device -> OS -> Interfaces -> $IF -> graphs
[07-Aug-2008 22:17:55] <SEJeff> Never even knew about that nathaniel
[07-Aug-2008 22:18:05] <SEJeff> Thats exactly what I was going to put in the perf tab
[07-Aug-2008 22:18:20] <SEJeff> Why aren't those under perf though?
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:37] <npmccallum> because they aren't related to the device but to the device's interfaces
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:42] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 has anyone run into this or what?
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:53] <daMaestro> is there a patch? or? ?????
[07-Aug-2008 22:20:19] <npmccallum> perf tab is NOT a dumping ground for graphs
[07-Aug-2008 22:20:35] <npmccallum> it contains performace graphs that are related only to the device as a whole
[07-Aug-2008 22:20:59] <npmccallum> thus, it only contains graphs in the Device template
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:24] <npmccallum> graphs in the IpInterface template will show up in the interface's performance graphs, etc
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:33] <npmccallum> same with filesystems, etc
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:35] <SEJeff> Gotcha
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:41] <monrad> is there any easy way to get snmp indexed stats out from like routers and stuff
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:53] <monrad> fans, cpus, temperatures ..
[07-Aug-2008 22:22:08] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Wow you just taught me something new about zenoss again. Thanks
[07-Aug-2008 22:22:39] <npmccallum> monrad: I'm not sure what you mean by "snmp indexed stats"
[07-Aug-2008 22:23:04] <monrad> 2 secs let me see if can can get an example
[07-Aug-2008 22:25:46] <monrad> http://pastebin.com/m292b1d04 <- like FOUNDRY-SN-AGENT-MIB::snAgentTempValue 1 to 4 is the four temp sensors on the first line card
[07-Aug-2008 22:26:30] <monrad> but different cards have different amount of sensors so i cant make a hardcoded template for it
[07-Aug-2008 22:27:29] <npmccallum> right
[07-Aug-2008 22:27:34] <npmccallum> you need a model extending zenpack
[07-Aug-2008 22:28:09] <npmccallum> basically, it subclasses Device and adds relationships to these sensors
[07-Aug-2008 22:28:37] <npmccallum> I think the community Brocade monitor zenpack might do this...
[07-Aug-2008 22:28:56] <monrad> i was just about to ask if there were any
[07-Aug-2008 22:29:08] <monrad> funny, now that brocade have bought foundry
[07-Aug-2008 22:29:37] <npmccallum> basically, there are lots of devices that have arbitrary #'s of inputs
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:17] <npmccallum> they will all follow the same basic pattern
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:24] <monrad> yes
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:27] <npmccallum> though, with slightly varying details of course
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:52] <npmccallum> one of the things that is annoying right now is that there is no way to add new tables to the os or hw tabs
[07-Aug-2008 22:31:23] <npmccallum> so you'll basically have to add a page to the "More" menu
[07-Aug-2008 22:31:44] <npmccallum> I'd like to make it so that we can extend the OS and HW tabs, which is the "right" way
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:08] <monrad> sounds like it
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:30] <monrad> hardware is also pretty underused
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:42] <npmccallum> not really
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:56] <monrad> the hw tab i meant
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:01] <npmccallum> the issue with hardware is that most things that are "hardware" often can be emulated by the OS
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:07] <monrad> on most of my network equipment anyway
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:07] <npmccallum> like network interfaces
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:13] <npmccallum> most are "hardware" so to speak
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:15] <daMaestro> is there anyone left from the devel team?
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:24] * daMaestro missed the 9am (MST) session
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:40] <npmccallum> but there are almost always some "virtual" network interfaces
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:49] <npmccallum> and/or bridges, etc
[07-Aug-2008 22:34:07] <npmccallum> so the table is really under the OS tab
[07-Aug-2008 22:34:52] <monrad> but stuff like fans and temperature could be under HW
[07-Aug-2008 22:34:55] <npmccallum> Filesystems are under the OS tab, but Hard Disks are under the HW tab
[07-Aug-2008 22:35:01] <npmccallum> sure
[07-Aug-2008 22:35:13] <npmccallum> It probably SHOULD be under HW
[07-Aug-2008 22:35:21] <npmccallum> but, ATM, we can't really expand it
[07-Aug-2008 22:36:06] <npmccallum> the brocade zenpack doesn't do it
[07-Aug-2008 22:37:29] <npmccallum> I'm not sure which one would
[07-Aug-2008 22:37:32] <npmccallum> if any
[07-Aug-2008 22:38:21] <monrad> i hope someone does it soon so i can copy it
[07-Aug-2008 22:40:49] <daMaestro> gah. really, does no one else add ip services? or is no one using 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:07] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3416 is the same bug
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:15] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3416 (manual creation of IPService impossible) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:49] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: the session is next week
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:57] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: we're gonna try to do them every 2 weeks
[07-Aug-2008 22:44:18] <mrayzenoss> Not sure what happened with that ticket. Simon only made it a medium
[07-Aug-2008 22:45:55] <daMaestro> i might be more willing to fix stuff like this, if there was some more contact via the tracker
[07-Aug-2008 22:46:28] <daMaestro> i can't imagine any enterprise customers would find this acceptable (which, we would like to become... but i can't get zenoss out of POC with this blocker bug)
[07-Aug-2008 22:49:02] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: I'll raise the issue to see what happened to the ticket.
[07-Aug-2008 22:50:18] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 is my ticket
[07-Aug-2008 22:50:25] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 23:59:03] <crashdummyMCH> is there an event class for when zendisc discovers a new device/adds the device?
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[08-Aug-2008 04:28:00] <mistat> Sorry to ask a potentially stupid question, but is there an "on call" or "rostering" feature for Zenoss? Whereby users who are "on call" are the only ones alerted during After Hours (say 6pm -> 8am) ?
[08-Aug-2008 05:05:17] <mistat> Clear that
[08-Aug-2008 05:05:41] <mistat> is it possible to output the details of whats emailed, to a text file? So we can parse it through our own scripts
[08-Aug-2008 10:45:26] <porkpie> HI guy's I am trying to add a single device to zenoss with a single ip address but I don't see a field for adding the ip address ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:46:14] <nemo_> zenoss uses dns to resolve hosts , but you can add by ip if you want
[08-Aug-2008 10:46:52] <porkpie> nemo_: so instead of the name just add the ip address ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:47:07] <nemo_> i think so, but i use dns
[08-Aug-2008 10:47:16] <porkpie> yeah ...
[08-Aug-2008 10:47:54] <porkpie> nemo_: I am monitor all of our ADSL customers static addresses ... they don't have DNS names
[08-Aug-2008 10:48:15] <nemo_> just discover a network block then
[08-Aug-2008 10:49:58] <porkpie> nemo_: not that easy ... I don't control the static ip allocation and it is done by region so it could cover 10 different blocks
[08-Aug-2008 10:50:17] <nemo_> so add 10 blocks ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:51:00] <nemo_> were you planning to add ip addresses 1 by 1 ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:56:42] <porkpie> nemo_: yes because they are only just being allocate slowly
[08-Aug-2008 12:08:14] <SEJeff> porkpie, Are there ip addresses in those blocks that you don't want to monitor?
[08-Aug-2008 12:08:33] <SEJeff> It might be easy to just scan the network /24 at a time or whatnot and remove the hosts you don't want to monitor
[08-Aug-2008 15:56:04] <IoNu|z> anyone see this error when adding a new device?
[08-Aug-2008 15:56:35] <IoNu|z> finished: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: iteration over non-sequence ]
[08-Aug-2008 16:13:23] <nemo_> hi all
[08-Aug-2008 16:13:40] <nemo_> my users log in via LDAP, all works well ( now at least, my confusion there )
[08-Aug-2008 16:14:24] <nemo_> but until an admin places 1 event view in place, the user cannot add there own event view , its like if theres nothing in the list, the add button isnt shown
[08-Aug-2008 16:14:33] <nemo_> anyone else see this ?
[08-Aug-2008 16:15:49] <IoNu|z> ... i don`t use ldap for zenoss..
[08-Aug-2008 16:21:30] <nemo_> yah i guess most people dont, but there are quite a few quiet lurkers who do
[08-Aug-2008 16:49:11] <IoNu|z> i`m trying to avoid as many problems as i can
[08-Aug-2008 17:21:25] <duncan> I'm trying to upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.2.3 and move to a faster box but I'm having an issue with zenmigrate. I used the stack installer on the new box to install 2.2.3, and then zenrestore to restore the tgz file created on my 2.1.2 box. This succeeded, but then zenmigrate fails with the following error: #
[08-Aug-2008 17:21:25] <duncan> CorruptedDataError: Error reading oid 0x01. Found 'AuthService.interfaces.plugins\nICredential' at 1875808 -- (full output here: http://pastebin.com/m188facae)
[08-Aug-2008 17:21:52] <duncan> is this a known bug, or did I miss a step?
[08-Aug-2008 17:42:55] <duncan> I guess I'll try the forums..
[08-Aug-2008 18:38:45] <ke4qqq> hey guys anyone using Zenoss with RT - and have the tickets auto closing when a resolved message comes in?
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:04] <SEJeff> ke4qqq, I wouldnt think it would be impossible to do that, but what if you mess something up and zenoss and end up with a zillion tickets in rt?
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:18] <SEJeff> It would be tricky to set that up right
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:29] * ke4qqq has around 300 right now
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:54] <ke4qqq> SEJeff: there is this already out there http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/AutoCloseOnNagiosRecoveryMessages
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:07] <__adytum-bot__> Title: AutoCloseOnNagiosRecoveryMessages - RT Wiki (at wiki.bestpractical.com)
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:25] <ke4qqq> so I was hoping someone had done the work already to fix it for Zenoss and I wouldn't have to do any work
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:33] <ke4qqq> ohhh well
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:44] <SEJeff> Looks pretty easy to do with that script
[08-Aug-2008 18:43:04] <ke4qqq> yeah - I think the main reconfig will have to be the alerting string in the subject for Zenoss
[08-Aug-2008 18:43:14] <SEJeff> Yup
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[08-Aug-2008 19:39:29] <shyru> hi all!
[08-Aug-2008 19:40:34] <ckrough> hi
[08-Aug-2008 20:10:04] <ckrough> Internet +1, BMDan 0
[08-Aug-2008 21:55:53] <jiffe98> does an snmp plugin need to be installed to use snmp?
[08-Aug-2008 21:56:53] <kso512> jiffe98: in the client? yes
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:03] <jiffe98> I setup a device to use snmp and its saying "no snmp plugins found" and "using ssh collection device"
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:06] <kso512> jiffe98 which snmp client depends on which OS the client is running...
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:11] <jiffe98> client has snmp enabled and I can snmp walk it
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:25] <kso512> jiffe98: ah, you have to change the plugins...
[08-Aug-2008 21:58:13] <jiffe98> change the plugins?
[08-Aug-2008 21:58:32] <kso512> jiffe98: go to the page for the Device, or its class if you want to change the whole class... then click on the drop-down, and choose More > Collector Plugins
[08-Aug-2008 21:59:03] <kso512> jiffe98: in the page that appears, click Add fields, then drag over the appropriate snmp plugins.
[08-Aug-2008 21:59:23] <kso512> jiffe98: when you're done, hit Save at the bottom, then re-model the device(s)
[08-Aug-2008 22:00:04] <jiffe98> ah ok, I had changed that to uname at the top and removed the others
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[09-Aug-2008 01:29:03] <Guest88967> hello
[09-Aug-2008 01:29:52] <Guest88967> I am new user of zenoss.
[09-Aug-2008 02:50:17] <Guest88967> Hello,
[09-Aug-2008 02:51:04] <Guest88967> Someone makes sence of this error: zen.Zendisc no wmi found for my_host
[09-Aug-2008 02:54:53] <Guest88967> Is there additional packages need to be install on clients before I add them on Zenoss? Your comments is appreciated, thanks!
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[09-Aug-2008 10:19:08] <Guest88967> hello
[09-Aug-2008 10:19:56] <Guest88967> I am not sure if my messenge could be see by others, any body please give a me a reasponse. Thanks!
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[09-Aug-2008 14:04:32] <thrope> hi - I just installed zenoss core, but I can't find anything in the docs about what the initial log in is
[09-Aug-2008 14:05:24] <thrope> got it in the quickstart guide
[09-Aug-2008 15:33:35] <thrope> I just installed zenoss and added a server - it looks really nice, but all the graphs show no data and say "missing rrd file" - is there something else I need to install or will they come witha bit of time?
[09-Aug-2008 15:54:22] <thrope> snmpwalk works fine to the server i'm trying to monitor, but whenever zenoss tries to collect the snmp agent on the server dies
[09-Aug-2008 15:54:32] <thrope> any ideas how I could find more informaiton?
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[10-Aug-2008 22:19:17] <krphop> holy shit
[10-Aug-2008 22:19:39] <krphop> so, just install zenoss on a vm
[10-Aug-2008 22:19:48] <krphop> its using 800MB of ram
[10-Aug-2008 22:20:09] <krphop> is that normal?
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[11-Aug-2008 00:59:37] <meteoroid> krphop: process size is often misreported due to shared memory..
[11-Aug-2008 00:59:45] <meteoroid> but, ah, i can't say for sure about zenoss..
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[11-Aug-2008 04:21:47] <meteoroid> i'm having trouble getting the zenoss rhel5 rpm to work, it seems to expect to be able to connect to mysql and create a database without asking me for any info, and fails to log in to mysql.
[11-Aug-2008 04:21:56] <meteoroid> also there is no zeoctl or zopectl binary in /opt/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 09:03:02] <jane__> testing
[11-Aug-2008 09:07:38] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 11:31:12] <pb1dft_> anyone here?.
[11-Aug-2008 11:31:47] <pb1dft> hello?
[11-Aug-2008 11:51:19] <nemo_> zenoss questions or hellos ?
[11-Aug-2008 11:52:17] <pb1dft> no i have a small question
[11-Aug-2008 11:52:37] <pb1dft> after starting the deamons the webinterface zon't start
[11-Aug-2008 11:52:43] <pb1dft> *won't
[11-Aug-2008 11:53:03] <pb1dft> it does start but dies
[11-Aug-2008 11:53:41] <pb1dft> when i run 'runzope' with args manually it stays running
[11-Aug-2008 11:54:56] <pb1dft> when i run it with 'runzope -X debug-mode=on' i get a Couldn't import Products.Five.Site.metaconfigure, connot import name adapterImplied' error
[11-Aug-2008 11:55:48] <pb1dft> OS is RHEL5.2 package installed through yum repos
[11-Aug-2008 11:59:35] <nemo_> i got the same problem with zenhub
[11-Aug-2008 11:59:42] <nemo_> no solution yet ...
[11-Aug-2008 12:00:23] <pb1dft> hmm i thought is was me
[11-Aug-2008 12:00:41] <pb1dft> saw some others in the forums but no solution there either
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:48] <nemo_> [zenoss@monitor05 log]$ grep Five *
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:48] <nemo_> event.log:After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:48] <nemo_> event.log:After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products'
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:58] <nemo_> no idea what Five is, but its in my logs too
[11-Aug-2008 12:05:15] <pb1dft> it requires me start the webdeamon to run manually which is kinda annoying
[11-Aug-2008 12:06:08] <MrTux> nemo_: Five is a backport of zope3 features to zope2
[11-Aug-2008 12:10:17] <pb1dft> now to fix it lol
[11-Aug-2008 12:10:22] <pb1dft> sorry for that
[11-Aug-2008 12:19:43] <nemo_> all fixed now then ?
[11-Aug-2008 12:20:38] <pb1dft> i whish
[11-Aug-2008 12:20:47] <pb1dft> i have no clue to start searching
[11-Aug-2008 13:43:35] <pb1dft> anyone knows how to change the http port
[11-Aug-2008 13:46:39] <Quadro> zope.conf -> fg
[11-Aug-2008 13:46:54] <Quadro> zope.conf -> <http-server>
[11-Aug-2008 13:47:18] <pb1dft> found that but now all other deamons still have 8080 in them,
[11-Aug-2008 13:47:40] <pb1dft> i changed as much as i could find but the alert email still has the wrong url in it
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[11-Aug-2008 14:05:42] <pb1dft> anyone?
[11-Aug-2008 14:24:46] <Spec> I am one!
[11-Aug-2008 14:27:45] <pb1dft>
[11-Aug-2008 14:27:50] <pb1dft> anyone knows how to change the http port
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:00] <pb1dft> zope.conf -> <http-server>
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:04] <pb1dft> found that but now all other deamons still have 8080 in them,
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:13] <pb1dft> i changed as much as i could find but the alert email still has the wrong url in it
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:13] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:15] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:16] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:38] <nemo_> i just keep pasting my stuff back in too ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:46] <pb1dft> not yet firts trying to get the damn thing to do what i want
[11-Aug-2008 14:38:16] <jiffe98> anyone know what I might look for if nothing is listening on port 8080 after a reboot?
[11-Aug-2008 14:40:58] <MajereDB8> jiffe98: netstat -lp
[11-Aug-2008 14:41:31] <MajereDB8> that will display all open ports and which daemons are listening on them
[11-Aug-2008 14:54:39] <jiffe99> connection dropped :\
[11-Aug-2008 14:55:19] <jiffe99> after starting it looks like '/usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py...' is listening on port 8080 but not for long
[11-Aug-2008 15:20:41] <jiffe99> I removed all the zec cache files, runzope ends with the error 'ConfigurationError: ('Invalid value for', 'handler', "Couldn't import Products.Five.site.metaconfigure, cannot import name adapterImplied")'
[11-Aug-2008 15:22:17] <jiffe99> running dmd.Devices.reIndex() in zendmd didn't fix for me
[11-Aug-2008 15:25:23] <jiffe99> is this pretty much an rm -rf and reinstall?
[11-Aug-2008 15:25:52] <SEJeff> jiffe99, There are a bunch of internal zope references to port 8080 so if you change that things will break
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:05] <jiffe99> I haven't changed anything
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:09] <SEJeff> I tried adding in an iptables firewall rule so that all requests to port 80 are redirected to 8080
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:27] <jiffe99> it should still be running on 8080
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:47] <jiffe99> it does, after starting zenoss I see something listening on 8080 for a few seconds
[11-Aug-2008 15:27:08] <jiffe99> I am not able to connect to it via web though, even while it is still listening
[11-Aug-2008 15:27:41] <SEJeff> Sorry I don't know what to say
[11-Aug-2008 15:27:55] <jiffe99> rm -rf it is
[11-Aug-2008 15:34:33] <MajereDB8> try deleting $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec
[11-Aug-2008 15:34:56] <pb1dft> jiffe99:
[11-Aug-2008 15:34:56] <jiffe99> I did
[11-Aug-2008 15:35:14] <pb1dft> run runzope as zenuser
[11-Aug-2008 15:36:10] <pb1dft> that will start the webui manually
[11-Aug-2008 15:36:29] <pb1dft> bbl have to driuve home
[11-Aug-2008 16:25:50] <ToM-> Anyone using /devices/server/cmd class and it's templates?
[11-Aug-2008 16:25:56] <ToM-> as I can't get the rrd data to be drawn
[11-Aug-2008 16:27:33] <jiffe99> I just reinstalled
[11-Aug-2008 16:43:04] <jatindergiri> Hello, I need help with naming cisco ports, I added cisco switch and it currently shows all the ports for the switch under OS, I would like to be able to name these port when I click on the port such as 1/1, but there is no option to change the name
[11-Aug-2008 16:43:57] <ToM-> use descriptions on the ports
[11-Aug-2008 16:44:33] <jatindergiri> okay how do i change description ?
[11-Aug-2008 16:44:43] <jatindergiri> sorry i don't see any option to add description eithe r
[11-Aug-2008 16:46:45] <ToM-> on the cisco device
[11-Aug-2008 16:49:29] <jatindergiri> well it's catos , I assigned port name I guess it didn't pick that up, let me see if there is a way to assign port descirption
[11-Aug-2008 16:53:15] <jatindergiri> okay so I am using set port name , it is the equivalent to port description for ios and it's not picking it up. Is there any way I can assign this manually?
[11-Aug-2008 16:55:10] <jiffe99> alright, I have zenoss reinstalled, I am having trouble setting up a device via snmp, I can snmpwalk the device if I change version to v2c and remove system from the end, I set the community and version in zProperties but it times out while trying to add the device
[11-Aug-2008 16:56:51] <jiffe99> it does show plugins: zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap while modelling
[11-Aug-2008 16:57:34] <thedaveking> jiffe99: I had a lot of bgp routes that took a long long time to read. I ended up unbinding the RouteMap for my core router devices.
[11-Aug-2008 16:58:52] <thedaveking> other options are increasing the zCollectorClientTimeout, or setting zRouteMapCollectOnlyLocal to true
[11-Aug-2008 16:59:20] <thedaveking> but if you have 250K BGP routes, you'll probably just want to unbind the RouteMap collector
[11-Aug-2008 17:03:44] <ToM-> ok, now I'm getting really pissed
[11-Aug-2008 17:03:58] <ToM-> i can't get the zencommand to execute any rrd datapoint commands
[11-Aug-2008 17:04:01] <ToM-> like wtf?!?
[11-Aug-2008 17:09:24] <jiffe99> that did work, thanks
[11-Aug-2008 18:11:28] Guest93378 is now known as troy42
[11-Aug-2008 18:14:00] <sto6ma9ch> I'm trying to configure Zenoss to do the following:
[11-Aug-2008 18:14:20] <sto6ma9ch> Perform a standard device ping
[11-Aug-2008 18:14:37] <sto6ma9ch> If the RTA goes over 200ms, send an e-mail alert.
[11-Aug-2008 18:15:08] <sto6ma9ch> I have the device being monitored only by pings, but I'm unsure how to configure the RTA alert.
[11-Aug-2008 18:28:41] <cciewu> u could use the check_ping command
[11-Aug-2008 18:29:00] <cciewu> set a warning and crit level
[11-Aug-2008 18:59:28] <daMaestro> sto6ma9ch, yeah.. you need to set a threshold via the template that i doing the ping
[11-Aug-2008 19:15:51] * meteoroid is having trouble with zenoss rpm on rhel5, wants to create a database during rpm install which it can't do without the password, and doesn't ask for.. can't find any docs except general readme-type from source. any help appreciated to get basic setup up-and-running.
[11-Aug-2008 19:17:24] <daMaestro> meteoroid, the installer expects an empty mysql database
[11-Aug-2008 19:17:33] <daMaestro> meteoroid, is this on a "fresh" server?
[11-Aug-2008 19:17:42] <daMaestro> aka.. can you blow away the mysql data?
[11-Aug-2008 19:19:17] <meteoroid> this is on a production server where i'd like zenoss to monitor my client mysql databases
[11-Aug-2008 19:19:25] <meteoroid> it's a very good thing it didn't try to blow them away i'd be pretty irate
[11-Aug-2008 19:19:50] <meteoroid> why can't i just create a 'zenoss' database and se the user and password in a config file, or a ZDA ?
[11-Aug-2008 19:20:37] <meteoroid> the thing is, for now, i'm just trying to get zenoss to run anywhere, i'm planning to monitor from another host, but i can't get any stack installer or anything to work.
[11-Aug-2008 19:20:46] <meteoroid> the stack installer fails to compile a dependency that i already have
[11-Aug-2008 19:20:54] * meteoroid is dizzy
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:07] <meteoroid> i'm trying to make a buildout, but i need to just get a copy working somewhere, so i can see how it works..
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:13] <meteoroid> also the rpm didn't create zeoctl / zopectl scripts..
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:16] <meteoroid> :/
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:35] * meteoroid would really like to help, has clients running their own zenoss and would like to converge..
[11-Aug-2008 19:25:25] <meteoroid> i can have a clean mysql on ubuntu, but it only has a stack installer, which doesn't work for other reasons.
[11-Aug-2008 19:26:45] <daMaestro> meteoroid, just set the root mysql user to not need a password from localhost?
[11-Aug-2008 19:26:54] * daMaestro also thinks that is a nasty hack
[11-Aug-2008 19:27:02] <daMaestro> however, with the rpm installer... that might be your only option
[11-Aug-2008 19:27:14] <daMaestro> i think there is one other user/pass combo it tries
[11-Aug-2008 19:27:21] * daMaestro looks if it's in the --scripts
[11-Aug-2008 19:28:05] <meteoroid> i dont trust the installer not to delete my customer databases
[11-Aug-2008 19:29:30] <meteoroid> rpm shouldn't be looked at as an installer, fyi. it's a package. i'd so much prefer a script that can set things up for me than the rpm try to force something..
[11-Aug-2008 19:29:35] <meteoroid> and that is more customary for rpm-based systems
[11-Aug-2008 19:30:14] * meteoroid gets really tired of software that wants an entire dedicated box just for experimentation ;d
[11-Aug-2008 19:30:18] <daMaestro> meteoroid, /opt/zenoss/bin/install-functions.sh
[11-Aug-2008 19:30:24] * meteoroid perks up
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:13] <meteoroid> hm
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:21] <daMaestro> meteoroid, it looks like you can export MYSQLROOTUSER and MYSQLROOTPASSWD before running the rpm transaction
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:27] <meteoroid> hm.
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:42] <meteoroid> going to need to audit what it does, though
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:50] <meteoroid> probably wait til after lunchtime ;d
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:54] <daMaestro> yeah, very much so
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:14] <meteoroid> so i mean, other than the full on installers, is there just anywhere, in the source code, or anything, a script i can run and/or any directions on manually setting up the zope environment for zenoss?
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:29] <SEJeff> patches accepted
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:36] <daMaestro> oh yeah, you are wanting to do the buildout
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:40] <daMaestro> +1 to that
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:43] <meteoroid> yes yes, but, there's a lot of code to read to even understand what's going on..
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:47] <meteoroid> i'd love to give a patch, but where to start
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:53] <daMaestro> meteoroid, it's tons of black magic
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:59] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Probably somewhere in the init script
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:00] <meteoroid> well who knows how it all works?
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:05] <daMaestro> meteoroid, i really want to fix the packages
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:11] * meteoroid really wants to help
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:13] <daMaestro> but ... don't really have time right now
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:17] <meteoroid> yah i hear ya
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:40] <daMaestro> meteoroid, pull the src.rpm and look at the magic done during install
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:42] <meteoroid> i just need help understanding some or any copy of zenoss enough that i can either write a buildout or at least some notes on how to cobble it together..
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:49] <meteoroid> ah that's a good idea the SRPM might be the easiest to read.
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:53] <meteoroid> +1 !
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:08] <daMaestro> it's very... umm... umm...
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:11] <daMaestro> needs work.
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:25] <SEJeff> meteoroid, ok I've got some code for you to look at
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:33] <SEJeff> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/bin/zenoss_init_post
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:41] <SEJeff> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:47] <__adytum-bot__> Title: /trunk/bin/zenoss_init_post - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:00] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Those should show you what you're after
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:01] <__adytum-bot__> Title: /trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:17] <daMaestro> meteoroid, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Bug 435470 – Review Request: zenoss - The Open Source Network Management System (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:38] <daMaestro> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470#c8 would be my comments
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:49] <meteoroid> w00t!
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Bug 435470 – Review Request: zenoss - The Open Source Network Management System (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:58] <meteoroid> thanks you guys, i'll dig in, have to close out another convo RQ
[11-Aug-2008 19:37:02] <daMaestro> i stuck all my compat python stuff in the rpmfusion repo
[11-Aug-2008 19:37:32] <meteoroid> daMaestro: you told me about EPEL recently, too, btw, do you know if that has any issues when ATrpms are in use? We have asterisk from ATrpms.
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:17] <daMaestro> axel is awesome, but it is not his goal to follow the concept of not replacing "core" (read: upstream provided) packages
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:22] <daMaestro> a good example, PIL
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:34] indradg is now known as indradg|zzz
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:36] <daMaestro> epel and atrpms likely conflict
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:50] <daMaestro> you can use the protectbase plugin with yum to mitigate a lot of the risk
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:57] <SEJeff> EPEL also is more likely to have the highest quality rpms
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:57] <daMaestro> but you break it, you bought it (so to speak)
[11-Aug-2008 19:39:13] <daMaestro> yes, epel will have the highest quality rpms
[11-Aug-2008 19:39:21] <daMaestro> all builds are reviewed, audited and chroot built
[11-Aug-2008 19:39:44] <daMaestro> iirc EPEL is still using plague, but is slated to move to using koji soon
[11-Aug-2008 19:41:51] <SEJeff> daMaestro, Why does that matter? koji is a zillion line python script
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:00] <SEJeff> daMaestro, We rolled out plague at work because it is less gross
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:50] <daMaestro> koji has complete and utter reproducibility
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:55] <daMaestro> plague, does not
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:58] <SEJeff> How so?
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:02] <SEJeff> And define that please
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:25] <daMaestro> https://fedorahosted.org/koji/
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Koji - Trac (at fedorahosted.org)
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:32] <SEJeff> Yes
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:35] <daMaestro> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:42] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Koji - FedoraProject (at fedoraproject.org)
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:08] <SEJeff> Can you please explain your statement to someone who has used both and ask setup plague?
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:32] <jiffe99> alright, I have the router added, it seemed to find the interfaces and vlans, but all of them gave me an error that it couldn't read the value, oid is bad
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:33] <SEJeff> Not that it is fun futzing with certificates for each plague user, but it works very well and creates things reliably
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:50] <SEJeff> jiffe99, You probably need to load in the mib for that router
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:54] <daMaestro> koji is able to recreate a build at any time, where all aspects of the build are tracked and are able to be reproduced
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:05] <daMaestro> don't get me wrong, both are good
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:14] <daMaestro> and i'm glad you found the one you like using more
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:19] <SEJeff> Again, I don't see the difference
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:49] <SEJeff> plague lets you setup a server and a client. You submit jobs to the server which pushes them to the client. It builds packages reproduceably
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:55] <SEJeff> Just curious
[11-Aug-2008 19:46:45] <daMaestro> plague does not track what was put into the chroot
[11-Aug-2008 19:46:48] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Whenever you get back, I've found what you are looking for
[11-Aug-2008 19:46:55] <daMaestro> it just builds the package, as of the time of the build
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:02] <SEJeff> daMaestro, Isn't that in the build logs where everything is ran with set -vx?
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:06] <SEJeff> It shows the copy or whatnot
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:14] <daMaestro> koji, on the other hand, tracks everything that was used to render the build
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:21] <daMaestro> yes, you can view the logs with plague
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:27] <meteoroid> oh?
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:27] <SEJeff> filenames and sha1sum or something?
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:38] <meteoroid> SEJeff: where is it where is it?!?!
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:42] <daMaestro> but everything is explicitly tracked with koji
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:44] * meteoroid hops up and down
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:45] <SEJeff> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:53] <SEJeff> 55 # create the events mysql database
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:53] <SEJeff> 56 create_database
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:59] <SEJeff> 64 # create the zeodb instance
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:59] <SEJeff> 65 run_mkzeoinstance
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: /trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:03] <meteoroid> rawk
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:06] <SEJeff> 67 # create the zeo database
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 68 start_zeodb
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 69 chown -R ${OS_USERNAME} ${ZENHOME}/var
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 70 run_zenbuild
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 71 stop_zeodb
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:09] <meteoroid> oh yeah also my zeo / zope instance didn't create
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:11] <SEJeff> There you go
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:11] <meteoroid> oh this is it man
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:12] <meteoroid> rawk
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:18] <meteoroid> maybe i can get a buildout going today!
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:29] <SEJeff> Please writeup something on the wiki when you get a chance
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:47] <SEJeff> So when someone else wants to do this they don't have to reverse engineer the rpm or look too much into the source
[11-Aug-2008 19:49:36] <SEJeff> daMaestro, Ok back to our koji convo. That is cool, but how is it better?
[11-Aug-2008 19:49:59] <SEJeff> plague lets you submit an srpm and get back an rpm
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:10] <daMaestro> they both use the same basic infrastructure (mock + yum + rpm), yes
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:22] <SEJeff> koji requires things to be in version control in ways that are forced upon you from my understanding
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:42] <daMaestro> yes, (that is partly correct)... that is part of the concept of koji
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:44] <meteoroid> SEJeff: totally. also the buildout will contain some documentation and should be easy to keep up to date. it will be in public svn
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:00] <daMaestro> *everything* has to be *completely* reproducible at any point
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:09] <SEJeff> meteoroid, http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:16] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Wiki - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:22] <SEJeff> Yeah, how is what comes out of an srpm not reproducable?
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:28] <SEJeff> Lets take this to PM
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:40] <daMaestro> you can do something called "scratch" builds with koji, which is similar to what you find appealing about plague
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:54] <daMaestro> SEJeff, i'd love to, outside of my work hours ;-)
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:05] * meteoroid is interested in this convo
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:09] <SEJeff> Alright
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:50] * daMaestro needs to get back to getting squid 3.0 STABLE7 pushed out and STABLE8 checked into the fedora CVS
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:53] <daMaestro> ;-)
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:56] <SEJeff> I just don't see what koji really buys you. The only nice thing about koji is the clear separation of privilege from a security aspect
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:58] <SEJeff> Alright thanks
[11-Aug-2008 19:53:24] <meteoroid> daMaestro: are you using squid3 as a proxy?
[11-Aug-2008 19:53:29] <meteoroid> i mean, as a forward-proxy..
[11-Aug-2008 19:53:54] <meteoroid> eh i'll bug you about it later in pm ;d
[11-Aug-2008 19:54:52] <daMaestro> meteoroid, reverse proxy cache-farm
[11-Aug-2008 19:54:53] <daMaestro> ;-)
[11-Aug-2008 19:55:16] <sto6ma9ch> I'm having a bit of trouble creating a new command in the template for check_ping
[11-Aug-2008 19:55:51] <meteoroid> daMaestro: for .. plone .. ?
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:12] <daMaestro> meteoroid, i actually switched to using varnish with plone
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:19] <sto6ma9ch> Looks like the command is being called from /opt/zenoss/libexec, but it's installed in /usr/local/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:22] * meteoroid keeps hearing about it crashing..
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:40] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Squid?
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:43] <meteoroid> ok we should pm so sto6ma9ch can get help if we cant help
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:46] <meteoroid> SEJeff: varnish
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:48] * meteoroid uses squid 2.6
[11-Aug-2008 19:58:27] <meteoroid> sto6ma9ch: all of zenoss is in /usr/local/zenoss? is there no /opt/zenoss/libexec at all?
[11-Aug-2008 19:58:33] <jiffe99> does zenoss come with a general set of MIBs?
[11-Aug-2008 19:58:44] <sto6ma9ch> That's correct, there is no /opt/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 19:59:24] <sto6ma9ch> "./zencommand run -d <ip_of_device> -v10" produces:
[11-Aug-2008 19:59:35] <sto6ma9ch> 'Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/ - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins'
[11-Aug-2008 19:59:55] <SEJeff> jiffe99, /opt/zenoss/share/mibs
[11-Aug-2008 20:00:20] <meteoroid> jiffe99: there are a bunch of existing "ZenPacks" which talk to things like Dell and HP default monitors, Apache stats, a few other things, and it talks nagios plugins. i imagine some of those involve mibs and other are just scripts..
[11-Aug-2008 20:00:48] <sto6ma9ch> I see. So I should look to edit the check_ping script?
[11-Aug-2008 20:00:52] <meteoroid> sto6ma9ch: grep -r through your zenoss install for \/opt\/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 20:01:33] <meteoroid> also just consider using an absolute path to your script
[11-Aug-2008 20:01:35] <meteoroid> i'd do both
[11-Aug-2008 20:02:43] <SEJeff> sto6ma9ch, one of the things I did was added /opt/zenoss/libexec to $PATH for the zenoss user. It made things easier when running nagios style checks like that
[11-Aug-2008 20:02:43] <sto6ma9ch> "less check_ping | grep \/opt\/zenoss" produces:
[11-Aug-2008 20:03:01] <sto6ma9ch> "check_ping" is a binary file. See it anyway?
[11-Aug-2008 20:03:01] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: A symbolic link or two might fix it all up quickly
[11-Aug-2008 20:03:17] <sto6ma9ch> OK, I'll set that symbolic link real quick ...
[11-Aug-2008 20:06:10] <SEJeff> jiffe99, You might try something like: zenmib run /usr/share/snmp/mibs/*
[11-Aug-2008 20:11:11] <sto6ma9ch> Got the symbolic link from /opt/zenoss to /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/common
[11-Aug-2008 20:11:56] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: Cool - are you getting different results?
[11-Aug-2008 20:11:57] <sto6ma9ch> chowned it to zenoss:zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 20:12:07] <sto6ma9ch> Yep, but they're a tad confusing.
[11-Aug-2008 20:12:16] <sto6ma9ch> It looks like the command runs twice.
[11-Aug-2008 20:12:28] <sto6ma9ch> Once completing successfully, then another with the misuse error.
[11-Aug-2008 20:13:01] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: hrmm... I have yet to play with check_ping, so I have 0 exp. on that one...
[11-Aug-2008 20:13:14] <sto6ma9ch> Understood. Thanks for your help.
[11-Aug-2008 20:13:37] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: np - good luck
[11-Aug-2008 20:14:05] <sto6ma9ch> BTW: This product has been really well received by our administrators ...
[11-Aug-2008 20:14:10] <sto6ma9ch> and management.
[11-Aug-2008 20:14:28] <SEJeff> sto6ma9ch, Note: I just became an enterprise customer. This is a great product
[11-Aug-2008 20:16:43] <SEJeff> sto6ma9ch, If you are a command line guy, the ability to script zenoss is pretty much endless
[11-Aug-2008 20:17:27] <sto6ma9ch> I'm a command line guy as much as I can be ... that's the only real way to be portable.
[11-Aug-2008 20:17:49] <sto6ma9ch> Wait: Just got it!
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:10] <sto6ma9ch> I failed to add the command string in the "Command Template" field under Data Source.
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:21] <SEJeff> That just might do it
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:27] <sto6ma9ch> ... and there's my alert e-mail.
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:34] <sto6ma9ch> My apologies.
[11-Aug-2008 20:23:23] <knakka> Hi all...how to populate the Hardware Tab with information for a cisco router/switch (using V 2.2.3)
[11-Aug-2008 20:23:47] <knakka> should the CiscoMap plugin do or does it needs anything else?
[11-Aug-2008 20:24:11] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: <high-five>
[11-Aug-2008 20:24:57] <kso512> knakka: Does the rest of the device get picked up?
[11-Aug-2008 20:25:14] <kso512> knakka: ...Modeled, even?
[11-Aug-2008 20:27:16] <knakka> yes and yes
[11-Aug-2008 20:27:41] <knakka> interfaces, graphs all working fine
[11-Aug-2008 20:28:01] <knakka> don't see anything in hardware tab though
[11-Aug-2008 20:36:29] <sto6ma9ch> This works well. Actually graphing this RTA data may prove valuable, but I'll check the docs for that.
[11-Aug-2008 20:46:02] <knakka> any help with above ...I'm able query (snmpwalk) the cardDesr oid for that device and I see all the line card information on that device
[11-Aug-2008 21:53:16] <jiffe99> with the filesystem checks that it is doing via snmp, is there a way to limit it to certain paths only?
[11-Aug-2008 21:56:34] <jiffe99> suppose I can just clean things up after discovery
[11-Aug-2008 22:00:18] <krphop> you could limit it in your snmp config
[11-Aug-2008 22:19:36] <jiffe99> hmm, how would I go about that?
[11-Aug-2008 22:22:05] <jiffe99> its probably going to be different per machine anyway so might be best to let it find them all and remove what I don't need to check
[11-Aug-2008 22:44:17] <jiffe99> what exactly does this mean? threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 2.92
[11-Aug-2008 22:45:42] <jiffe99> more specifically the 2.92 part
[11-Aug-2008 23:43:20] <meteoroid> dangit i lost my links to zenoss source from earlier
[11-Aug-2008 23:43:22] <meteoroid> been a flurry today
[11-Aug-2008 23:43:30] <meteoroid> but i'm on the yellow brick road for sure.
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[12-Aug-2008 09:26:07] <rbw> hello!
[12-Aug-2008 09:29:45] <rbw> I've just installed a zenoss client node. it works fine and everything but there seems to be very few modules/plugins/checks available...is adding new modules easy? i.e. say I want various status checks for tivoli storage manager, is there a site or such where new modules can be downloaded and added to a client node?
[12-Aug-2008 10:59:41] <pb1dft> damn
[12-Aug-2008 10:59:57] <pb1dft> what the hell is wrong with the product on some points
[12-Aug-2008 11:00:29] <pb1dft> i start a discovery on network 10.1.2.0/24 and it start a discovery on 10.1.0.0/16
[12-Aug-2008 12:24:48] <cciewu> pb1d: which version r u using?
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[12-Aug-2008 12:40:41] <rrittenhouse> I used the deb's for Zenoss to install in Ubuntu. What is the default username/password for the install?
[12-Aug-2008 12:41:54] <rrittenhouse> nm I guessed it
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:12] <pb1dft> cciewu: Zenos 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:21] <pb1dft> and python 2.4.4
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:26] <pb1dft> on RHEL 5.2
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:47] <cciewu> hmm my only exp is with 2.1.2
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:01] <cciewu> trying to upgrade to 2.2.3 has scared me for life
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:27] <pb1dft> this is a new install as i'm trying to convince people here this is as good as NNM
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:35] <pb1dft> say better and less expensive
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:45] <cciewu> it will be when you get it working
[12-Aug-2008 13:21:11] <cciewu> so scanning 10.1.2.0 will scan 10.1.0.0?
[12-Aug-2008 13:21:30] <pb1dft> most off the stuff seems to work just have some small stuff i have to fix like a shitload off errors on ciscos 6500 switches
[12-Aug-2008 13:22:08] <pb1dft> cciewu: yeah as does 10.16.x.0 /24 will start on 10.16.0.0/16
[12-Aug-2008 13:24:07] <cciewu> hmm i've discovered stuff x.x.x.0 before never had that problem
[12-Aug-2008 13:24:17] <cciewu> then again i'm running older version
[12-Aug-2008 13:24:39] <pb1dft> this is a rather large network
[12-Aug-2008 13:25:08] <pb1dft> we are using the all private subnet 10/8 192.168/16 etc
[12-Aug-2008 13:25:19] <pb1dft> and a shitoad off publics
[12-Aug-2008 13:26:55] <cciewu> ouch
[12-Aug-2008 13:29:51] <cciewu> pb1dft:what happens when you browse by networks?
[12-Aug-2008 13:38:04] <nemo_> it goes sllllllloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww
[12-Aug-2008 13:40:23] <cciewu> nemo: r u having issues as well?
[12-Aug-2008 13:44:19] <nemo_> performance yes
[12-Aug-2008 13:44:49] <nemo_> and yes, i put in all the /24's i wanted and deleted the /16 /8's
[12-Aug-2008 13:45:28] <cciewu> u also using 2.2.3?
[12-Aug-2008 13:47:54] <pb1dft> 2.2.3 has smome issues like the webdeamon not staying started at bootup
[12-Aug-2008 13:48:27] <cciewu> that sucks
[12-Aug-2008 13:48:47] <jb> or like the broken graphs.
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:13] <cciewu> crap 2.2.3 clean install has broken graphs?
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:18] <jb> no, upgrade
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:22] <jb> for me, at least
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:27] <jb> zenperfsnmp keeps crapping out
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:30] <cciewu> did you guys do the usual like kill zec files and dump your browser cache?
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:45] <cciewu> yeah upgrade wiped me out as well
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:48] <pb1dft> to get it started and keep it started i had to run runzope from cmd line and leave the console open or zopectl -f -d start
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:52] <cciewu> zenmigrate is awful
[12-Aug-2008 13:50:07] <cciewu> had to downgrade back to 2.1.2
[12-Aug-2008 13:50:24] <cciewu> for me it was zenhub that kept going out
[12-Aug-2008 13:53:03] <cciewu> aww just noticed Zenoss Dev team will be here at 11am this thursday
[12-Aug-2008 13:53:28] <pb1dft> damn motherfucker i disabled autodiscover on the /16 network and started a discovery on the /24 one
[12-Aug-2008 13:54:02] <pb1dft> still started discovery on the /16 network but exited due to the false parameter
[12-Aug-2008 13:54:59] <cciewu> what does it say in your zproperties for /Networks?
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:18] <cciewu> especially for DefaultNetworkTrees?
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:24] <pb1dft> what param
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:36] <pb1dft> 24 and 32
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:42] <cciewu> ok
[12-Aug-2008 13:56:16] <cciewu> you added subnetworks i'm assuming
[12-Aug-2008 13:56:45] <pb1dft> subnets came from my core router which i added by hand
[12-Aug-2008 14:03:19] <mndo> hi there!
[12-Aug-2008 14:04:18] <mndo> i am thinking of giving zenoss a try and i was wondering about the performance of zenoss vs cacti a on relatively small network..
[12-Aug-2008 14:04:22] <mndo> any pointers?
[12-Aug-2008 14:05:49] <cciewu> never used cacti before
[12-Aug-2008 14:06:22] <cciewu> but zenoss with plenty of memory is fast assuming you don't get a version that has a memory issue
[12-Aug-2008 14:09:16] <mndo> cciewu, cacti was just an example.. the real thing that worries me is that zenoss runs on zope, which is not very light..
[12-Aug-2008 14:10:54] <mndo> memory should not be a problem.. it will run on a dual core and 4g of mem..
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:08] <nemo_> 4gb is kiddy stuff
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:22] <nemo_> 16/32 is recommended for 100's of devices
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:40] <nemo_> i run with 8gb of ram
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:50] <nemo_> had to add a 23gb swap file to get stability
[12-Aug-2008 14:14:55] <nemo_> can anyone tell me what the default zserver-threads is in there /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:02] <cciewu> strange i think my box has 32GB but i only see 4GB
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:29] <nemo_> 32bit ?
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:37] <nemo_> or PAE kernel
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:52] <cciewu> yeah 32
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:03] <cciewu> i don't think it's using PAE
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:13] <nemo_> so you really should only see 3gb
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:27] <nemo_> use a 64bit kernel and you can use upto 256TB
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:48] <cciewu> well it sems ok the db has 8gb and see it all
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:52] <cciewu> the front end has 4
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:56] <nemo_> grep zserver-threads /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf
[12-Aug-2008 14:18:01] <nemo_> anyone run that pls ?
[12-Aug-2008 14:18:17] <cciewu> 10
[12-Aug-2008 14:19:30] <nemo_> thx
[12-Aug-2008 14:21:10] <cciewu> np
[12-Aug-2008 14:24:04] <rbw> has anyone got experience with nagios plugins in zenoss?
[12-Aug-2008 14:24:24] <rbw> I can't get it to work and the documentation on this doesn't make any sense...
[12-Aug-2008 14:24:48] <cciewu> i've gotten it to work for the check_dns.pl
[12-Aug-2008 14:25:03] <cciewu> got to go into templates and device
[12-Aug-2008 14:25:11] <cciewu> and add data source as a command
[12-Aug-2008 14:25:34] <cciewu> then put in the pl or py file in the libexec directory, just the name not the path
[12-Aug-2008 14:26:15] <mndo> nemo_, there won't be 100s of devices somewhere around 10 would be accurate..
[12-Aug-2008 14:26:40] <nemo_> so your fine then
[12-Aug-2008 14:26:49] <mndo> that's why was wondering if zenoss performed good enough or is overkill
[12-Aug-2008 14:27:03] <nemo_> its fine with low memory for small deployments
[12-Aug-2008 14:31:52] <rbw> cciewu: I've successfully added the command and tested it to verify that it's working properly. however, it doesn't show up in the event console
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:23] <cciewu> yeah i've only see my command run once
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:31] <cciewu> might need to run zencommand
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:39] <rbw> cciewu: done that, still nothing.
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:45] <cciewu> hmm
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:52] <cciewu> yeah that is where i'm stumped as well
[12-Aug-2008 14:33:09] <cciewu> ok does your command have options for W and C? warn and crit?
[12-Aug-2008 14:33:13] <cciewu> trip one of those
[12-Aug-2008 14:34:22] <rbw> cciewu: I'm actually using check_nrpe(the plugin connects to a remote NRPE host) and checks disk usage...anyway, it does return status properly (warning atm).
[12-Aug-2008 14:34:50] <cciewu> do you see it in acknowledged?
[12-Aug-2008 14:34:59] <cciewu> sometimes it'll end up on the wrong event
[12-Aug-2008 14:36:19] <rbw> cciewu: nope. nothing
[12-Aug-2008 14:37:17] <cciewu> yeah that is where i am now also
[12-Aug-2008 14:37:27] <cciewu> welcome to limbo
[12-Aug-2008 14:37:44] <cciewu> wait do you wsometo alert you?
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:00] <pb1dft> hehe i'm running zenos in vmware
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:03] <pb1dft> lol
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:09] <cciewu> sigh
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:31] <cciewu> pb1dft so you got everything working now?
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:03] <pb1dft> yeah devices got discovered
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:06] <pb1dft> 37 off them
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:23] <cciewu> good
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:30] <cciewu> brb
[12-Aug-2008 15:03:29] <cciewu> back
[12-Aug-2008 15:10:28] <pb1dft> can anyone tell me what the discovery intervall is?.
[12-Aug-2008 15:11:11] <jiffe99> any way of finding out why loading a MIB failed?
[12-Aug-2008 15:14:39] <cciewu> you mean data collection pb1dft?
[12-Aug-2008 15:14:47] <cciewu> i think every 12 hours
[12-Aug-2008 15:14:52] <pb1dft> no discovery fr new devices
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:02] <cciewu> i think that is a manual thing
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:12] <pb1dft> hmm
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:35] <cciewu> cause you click on network and then use the drop down to select discover devices
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:47] <cciewu> maybe you can set that but i don't know where
[12-Aug-2008 15:16:05] <pb1dft> i'll look a bit at it
[12-Aug-2008 15:16:44] <pb1dft> bbl
[12-Aug-2008 15:16:58] <cciewu> k
[12-Aug-2008 15:21:42] <jiffe99> ah got it, --debug
[12-Aug-2008 15:22:59] <cciewu> what command jiffe did you add the debug option?
[12-Aug-2008 15:24:25] <jiffe99> zenmib
[12-Aug-2008 15:58:48] <jiffe99> if I am seeing 'oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.455 is bad', this means I don't have an MIB loaded?
[12-Aug-2008 15:59:13] <jb> no, it means the OID is bad..
[12-Aug-2008 16:01:06] <jiffe99> what does 'bad' mean ?
[12-Aug-2008 16:04:39] <jb> can you walk it?
[12-Aug-2008 16:05:43] <jiffe99> I can
[12-Aug-2008 16:07:39] <jiffe99> so ifInErrors.455 not showing up is the reason it is saying it is bad?
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:29] <jb> wow
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:31] <jb> zenrestore is so broken.
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:47] <cciewu> blow up your /tmp?
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:53] <jb> well, besides that
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:55] <cciewu> and what verson?
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:58] <jb> 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:03] <jb> it didnt restore any of my devices or anything
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:04] <cciewu> oh joy
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:14] <jb> i think its trying to use an invalid mysql password
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:16] <cciewu> i hope you still have your old box
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:25] <jb> i do
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:30] <jb> im testing on a vm
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:35] <jb> tar: perf: time stamp 2008-08-12 11:08:08 is 12229 s in the future
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:35] <jb> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:35] <jb> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:57] <jb> this is really beginning to upset me.
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:10] <cciewu> do another backup but select to have your username and password dropped into a file
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:17] <cciewu> and then have zenrestore pick it up from there
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:32] <jb> thats an option?
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:35] <cciewu> yeah
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:59] <daMaestro> is there any way to copy a report?
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:05] <cciewu> i didn't bother with my backup because i didn't bother changing the username and password
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:14] <jb> i didnt change it either
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:22] <jb> but the stack installer obviously installed it using "zenoss" as the pw
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:24] <cciewu> then you don't have one?
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:35] <jb> its "zenoss"
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:38] <cciewu> then set the old one and do another backup
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:45] <cciewu> strange
[12-Aug-2008 17:08:49] <jb> whats the zenbackup options
[12-Aug-2008 17:09:14] <cciewu> zenbackup -h
[12-Aug-2008 17:09:19] <jb> ah thanks
[12-Aug-2008 17:09:28] <cciewu> np
[12-Aug-2008 17:10:40] <jb> the /tmp thing is annoying.
[12-Aug-2008 17:11:06] <cciewu> i'm going to map it to a larger network mount next time
[12-Aug-2008 17:11:23] <cciewu> just wish there was an option to not take performance data along to the new server
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:16] <jb> no one can seem to figure out my zenperfsnmp/gaps in graph problem
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:30] <cciewu> i've seen that before also
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:39] <cciewu> snmp sometimes conks out
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:49] <cciewu> for no reason so you're seeing gaps
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:23] <cciewu> i forgot but if you search the forums you can shorten some sort of interval so that they are collected more often
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:30] <jb> well, zenperfsnmp craps out every time its ran
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:44] <jb> in which zen is establishing a TCP connection to its self
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:45] <cciewu> ok then you have much bigger issues
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:52] <cciewu> iptables?
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:54] <jb> no
[12-Aug-2008 17:14:08] <jb> everything worked fine with 2.2.0
[12-Aug-2008 17:14:25] <cciewu> just curious why then are you moving to 2.2.3?
[12-Aug-2008 17:14:42] <jb> because i wanted to keep current.. typically makes upgrades less tedious
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:12] <jb> so now for testing, i did a zenbackup of my 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:16] <jb> installed 2.2.3 on a VM
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:21] <jb> and trying to use zenrestore to restore
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:23] <cciewu> good luck
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:24] <jb> to see if the gaps exist
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:29] <jb> but i cant even get the backup/restore to work
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:49] <jiffe99> is there a way to make notifications more pager friendly? Editing the message but the macros can still be long
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:51] <cciewu> restore still doesn't work?
[12-Aug-2008 17:16:04] <jb> im retrying it now..
[12-Aug-2008 17:16:30] <pb1dft> cciewu:
[12-Aug-2008 17:17:09] <cciewu> jiffe: i guess you can put in a specific message or get rid of the extra components
[12-Aug-2008 17:25:13] <jb> ah theres a --temp-dir too
[12-Aug-2008 17:26:26] <cciewu> bummer i think that implemented that after 2.2.0
[12-Aug-2008 17:26:34] <cciewu> 2.1.2 doesn't have that option
[12-Aug-2008 17:39:42] <OOKyler> Good afternoon!
[12-Aug-2008 17:40:17] <OOKyler> Might I speak with anyone who could help me with SNMP trap mappings? At my whits end..
[12-Aug-2008 17:41:39] <cciewu> oid?
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:23] <OOKyler> Well, I've uploaded my MIBs for a UPS Web Card.. The traps are arriving and hitting the event list, but aren't translating. I'm apparently not understanding how this is supposed to work..
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:40] <jb> ok
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:42] <jb> no errors
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:49] <jb> and no devices in zenoss
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:59] <jb> ARGH
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:06] <jb> one thing after another
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:07] <cciewu> so no password problems?
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:12] <jb> niope
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:15] <jb> no errors
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:22] <jb> do I need to run zenmigrate?
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:25] <jb> the backup is from 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:34] <jb> im restoring to a clean 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:40] <cciewu> 2.2.3 to 2.2.3 shouldn't need it
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:50] <cciewu> i'd check the forums also at the point
[12-Aug-2008 17:45:58] <OOKyler> The device I'm trying to monitor is a Liebert UPS battery string. The MIB file from the vendor had around 500 mibs in it. Now that I have traps coming in, they are showing up as the OIDs. How do I make the associated link so they show up as the right Event Class and Description?
[12-Aug-2008 17:46:20] <jb> zenhub wont start
[12-Aug-2008 17:47:21] <MrTux> OOKyler: do you find the oid in the mibview?
[12-Aug-2008 17:48:24] <OOKyler> mibview - explain?
[12-Aug-2008 17:50:11] <OOKyler> Let me rephrase that.. don't want to sound pushy or harsh. Could you please explain to me how I could do that?
[12-Aug-2008 17:53:15] <MrTux> OOKyler: you have to look in the mibs section of the webinterface for the mib, and in the mib you can see what traps are defined
[12-Aug-2008 17:54:15] <OOKyler> Ahh, yes. All of the mibs imported into the Mib section of the UI. The names are associated to OID Mappings as well as Traps
[12-Aug-2008 17:54:28] <OOKyler> They are SMIv2 MIBS
[12-Aug-2008 17:54:33] <MrTux> OOKyler: okay, so it usuall work, at least in my experience
[12-Aug-2008 17:55:12] <OOKyler> after I add the MIBs, what do I need to do in the Events section? The documentation seems to elude to needing to do something there but it's not clicking.
[12-Aug-2008 18:12:57] <nate187> if .python.bin is tying up the cpu, is there a way to see which zenoss process is causing it?
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[12-Aug-2008 18:13:35] <nate187> nm, stupid me.
[12-Aug-2008 18:16:10] <nate187> zenhub is staying at 100% cpu. Should it be constantly using that much? I'm running it on dual 3Ghz xeons with 3G ram
[12-Aug-2008 18:20:53] <MrTux> OOKyler: the mib mapping is done automatically
[12-Aug-2008 18:50:25] <nate187> anyone have any ideas?
[12-Aug-2008 19:00:10] <cciewu> set logseverity to 10 and look at the log
[12-Aug-2008 19:00:19] <cciewu> either in the gui or from the log directory
[12-Aug-2008 19:01:12] <nate187> looks like it was pulling all the bgp routes from my routers
[12-Aug-2008 19:01:32] <nate187> so i disabled the routemap plugin
[12-Aug-2008 19:01:49] <cciewu> so it stopped?
[12-Aug-2008 19:02:10] <cciewu> did it lower CPU utilization?
[12-Aug-2008 19:02:17] <nate187> i restarted it and its only going up to about 65% max now
[12-Aug-2008 19:03:11] <nate187> I'll check again in a while, but it looks alot better now
[12-Aug-2008 19:07:40] <cciewu> k
[12-Aug-2008 19:15:54] <MrTux> nate187: you must disable the newroutemap, it fetches dynamic routes
[12-Aug-2008 19:19:13] <jiffe99> alright, now I'm getting
[12-Aug-2008 19:19:28] <jiffe99> 'threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 4155321.13' on Serial7/0/0
[12-Aug-2008 19:19:52] <jiffe99> how do I go about ignoring the serial device
[12-Aug-2008 19:32:10] <jiffe99> suppose I can just remove that threshold altogether
[12-Aug-2008 19:37:43] <OOKyler> create a local copy of the interface and either modifier the multiplier on just that one or disable monitoring for it
[12-Aug-2008 19:37:47] <OOKyler> easiest way I've found
[12-Aug-2008 19:40:11] <OOKyler> MrTux: Is there a particular reason why it wouldn't be mapping automatically? The UPS isn't the only one doing it. Our Tape Backup system isn't working like that either. I uploaded the MIBs but the onyl way I could get it to work was to manually add the transforms in the Event Mappings
[12-Aug-2008 19:41:12] <MrTux> OOKyler: no idea, i'm not a developer, just a user
[12-Aug-2008 19:41:29] <OOKyler> ty anyway
[12-Aug-2008 20:24:42] <cciewu> ok i'm going home
[12-Aug-2008 20:24:44] <cciewu> night all
[12-Aug-2008 21:18:16] <pb1dft> nitghy
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[13-Aug-2008 01:39:48] <meteoroid> wealp ive got some progress getting my zenoss rpm to work on rhel5, though it's not the box i want to run on at all, i think i've got enough of a hang of it to write a buildout..
[13-Aug-2008 01:40:13] <meteoroid> all these extra scripts and commands relate to one zope instance, so it's super simple, i just reference trunk/bin/ from svn:externals
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[13-Aug-2008 04:46:20] <densone> Question , is there a way to have a remote machine behind a distant firewall send data back to zenoss?
[13-Aug-2008 05:21:40] <jeffspeff> hello all, i just downloaded the zenoss windows vmware appliance... how do i set a static ip? there isn't a man page for ifconfig
[13-Aug-2008 05:40:41] <meteoroid> objctrealms still down
[13-Aug-2008 05:42:44] <meteoroid> kapil promised tonight!
[13-Aug-2008 05:43:02] <meteoroid> sorry wrong chan
[13-Aug-2008 07:28:16] <jane_> Hi jeffspeff - I simply changed the name/IP address in the Op Sys to a static and rebooted - Zenoss simply worked
[13-Aug-2008 07:29:54] <jeffspeff> does anybody know how to get the pager alert thing to work? can it send a text to my cell instead of to a pager? how does that work (briefly)?
[13-Aug-2008 07:30:42] <jeffspeff> jane_, do you know?
[13-Aug-2008 08:41:56] <rbw_> hello
[13-Aug-2008 10:00:41] <jane_> Sorry - not done anything with paging
[13-Aug-2008 10:12:29] <OOKyler> usually you simply use email to send the message to phones. Be warned though, it counts as a text message. In the case of Verizon Wireless, you would send the email to 9999999@verizonwireless.com
[13-Aug-2008 10:13:40] <OOKyler> Each mobile phone provider has a method of doing this, of which could be different from provide-to-provider but they all use email to achieve it
[13-Aug-2008 10:17:11] <Quadro> no
[13-Aug-2008 10:17:37] <Quadro> not every cell op provides email2sms gateway
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[13-Aug-2008 12:06:28] <OOKyler> Ok, Verizon and ATT have an email2sms gateway.. so I guess the question is who is your provider?
[13-Aug-2008 12:12:54] <Quadro> Megaphone
[13-Aug-2008 12:12:59] <Quadro> the same @ MTS
[13-Aug-2008 12:13:06] <Quadro> the same @ BeeLine
[13-Aug-2008 12:13:46] <Quadro> i don't care much in fact, i've got my own sms-gate
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[13-Aug-2008 14:53:27] <MmeNetView> test
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[13-Aug-2008 15:51:44] <jiffe99> alright, when I go into the OS tab and clean out filesystems I don't want to monitor they come back the next day
[13-Aug-2008 16:06:05] <jb> any enterprise customers here?
[13-Aug-2008 16:08:38] <nate187> how do you clear all the performance data?
[13-Aug-2008 16:09:50] <kgoedtel> delete the rrd files?
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:08] <nate187> I was using a data point of counter instead of derive and need to wipe all the graphs
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:24] <nate187> so everything is stored in teh rdd files?
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:41] <kgoedtel> the performance data is yeah
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:52] <kgoedtel> you can just delete the relevant rrd files
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:54] <nate187> k, thanks
[13-Aug-2008 16:54:30] <jiffe99> snmp filesystem monitoring monitors all the filesystems found, some are constant 100% usage though and not sure how to . dynamix
[13-Aug-2008 16:55:03] <jiffe99> not sure how to not monitor those
[13-Aug-2008 16:55:30] <MA1> word
[13-Aug-2008 17:55:11] <cciewu> so quiet here today
[13-Aug-2008 17:55:17] <MA1> seriously
[13-Aug-2008 17:55:49] <nate187> shhh
[13-Aug-2008 17:56:04] <cciewu>
[13-Aug-2008 17:56:24] <cciewu> our of curiosity who uses syslog/syslog-ng/rsyslog?
[13-Aug-2008 17:56:48] <nate187> i used syslog-ng
[13-Aug-2008 17:57:19] <cciewu> does it have a gui frontend that can attach to it like rsyslog?
[13-Aug-2008 17:57:56] <MA1> i also use syslog-ng and i dont believe theres a gui frontend
[13-Aug-2008 17:57:56] <nate187> php-syslog-ng
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:00] <nate187> http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-syslog-ng/
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:07] <__adytum-bot__> Title: SourceForge.net: php-syslog-ng (at sourceforge.net)
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:13] <cciewu> ? interesting
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:54] <nate187> have syslog-ng record to a db, and php-syslog-ng makes a nice front end for viewing/searching
[13-Aug-2008 17:59:52] <cciewu> but don't i need the PE version to use the db?
[13-Aug-2008 18:00:28] <nate187> pe?
[13-Aug-2008 18:00:54] <cciewu> a paid edition
[13-Aug-2008 18:01:04] <nate187> i don't think so
[13-Aug-2008 18:01:58] <nate187> doesn't say anything about it on the man page
[13-Aug-2008 18:02:22] <cciewu> there r 2 versions a open source version and the premium edition
[13-Aug-2008 18:02:33] <nate187> open source is what i'm using
[13-Aug-2008 18:02:38] <nate187> yum install syslog-ng
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:06] <cciewu> so open source talks to db then
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:10] <nate187> does for me
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:47] <jb> looking for a gui for syslog-ng data?
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:49] <cciewu> mysql?
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:49] <jb> check out splunk
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:56] <jb> its pretty nice..
[13-Aug-2008 18:04:16] <cciewu> ok got to head to a meeting
[13-Aug-2008 18:38:21] <leitgebj> Hey folks... anyone have an idea about how to set up a memory or load threshold? I set a value for memory free, and it never gets reached when it should, but for load I have the opposite problem.
[13-Aug-2008 18:58:27] <nate187> What would be the correct syntax for the RPN field to multiply a data point by 8 before graphing?
[13-Aug-2008 18:59:12] <nate187> Nothing I've added changes the graph
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[13-Aug-2008 20:10:03] <duncan> help! I'm trying to run zenmigrate to upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.2.3 -- the zenrestore worked fine, but I'm getting: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/usr/local/zenoss/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)"
[13-Aug-2008 20:10:51] <cciewu> duncan run hide!!!!
[13-Aug-2008 20:12:22] <duncan> aaaiiiieee!!
[13-Aug-2008 20:13:47] <cciewu> yeah i reverted back to 2.1.2
[13-Aug-2008 20:14:13] <duncan> this might be it: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6729&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=mysql+sock&start=15
[13-Aug-2008 20:14:28] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenhub and Zenactions wont start. (at community.zenoss.com)
[13-Aug-2008 20:14:38] <duncan> thanks __adytum-bot__ !
[13-Aug-2008 20:19:51] <kgoedtel> nate187: 8,*
[13-Aug-2008 20:20:27] <nate187> that's what i put
[13-Aug-2008 20:20:32] <nate187> maybe it takes time to update
[13-Aug-2008 20:20:41] <kgoedtel> it shouldn't
[13-Aug-2008 20:21:06] <nate187> hm
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:20] <kgoedtel> and you put that in the graph point RPN and it didn't seem to do anything?
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:39] <nate187> right
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:43] <kgoedtel> weiirrd
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:50] <kgoedtel> i use RPN a lot and never had troubles :[
[13-Aug-2008 20:23:39] <nate187> I'm trying to change ifInOctets on a ppp interface to graph bps instead of octets
[13-Aug-2008 20:24:47] <kgoedtel> is it no 8,* by default?
[13-Aug-2008 20:24:49] <kgoedtel> not*
[13-Aug-2008 20:25:13] <kgoedtel> i just checked mine and that's how i have mine set but i don't recall if i changed it
[13-Aug-2008 20:36:28] <TBKDan> For winexe, what is the format of the authentication file?
[13-Aug-2008 20:45:23] <TBKDan> Yay.. found it in the source..
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[13-Aug-2008 22:22:43] <jiffe99> anyone know of a system tray app that talks with zenoss?
[13-Aug-2008 22:23:57] <jiffe99> I saw the mailing list post from about a year ago but nothing since
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[13-Aug-2008 23:16:29] <en-nick08> test
[13-Aug-2008 23:20:47] <en-nick08> can anyone out there tell me the default transform settings in /Events /Net /Link /snmp_linkDown
[13-Aug-2008 23:25:17] <en-nick08> /msg nickserv register emnyman@gmail.com emn1rc
[13-Aug-2008 23:42:42] <en-nick08> /msg NickServ help
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[14-Aug-2008 02:05:20] <meteoroid> hm, python-ldap doesn't like my DN "dc=obelisk,dc=vongogo,dc=net"
[14-Aug-2008 02:17:40] <ryan____> anybody around ?
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:28] <meteoroid> ryan____: got a question?
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:31] <ryan____> yeah.
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:35] <meteoroid> typically on irc it's best to just ask.
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:36] <meteoroid>
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:41] <ryan____> yeah I know
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:50] <ryan____> regarding zenwinperf, I'm getting a lot of No valid counters
[14-Aug-2008 02:20:08] <ryan____> after winexec has been installed. the zuser/pass is configured correctly (which is how the service was installed)
[14-Aug-2008 02:21:30] <ryan____> was gonna email zen support, but since this isn't critical, they won't get back to me until tomorrow after I get off work
[14-Aug-2008 02:38:04] <ryan____> ugh now I'm forgetting everything
[14-Aug-2008 02:38:12] <ryan____> zAxl user/pass refers to what again ?
[14-Aug-2008 03:50:33] <ryan____> anybody anybody? I can't remember what the zAxlUsername/psasword is for. can someone enlighten me ?
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[14-Aug-2008 08:00:21] <MmeNetView> test
[14-Aug-2008 08:03:24] <pann> hi
[14-Aug-2008 11:06:40] <pb1dft> any here?
[14-Aug-2008 11:17:22] <pann> hi
[14-Aug-2008 11:21:38] <pb1dft> hi
[14-Aug-2008 11:21:46] <pb1dft> you familiar with zenoss?
[14-Aug-2008 11:34:42] <MmeNetView> Anyone else having problems getting consistency with WMI service monitoring on Zenoss 2.2 ?
[14-Aug-2008 11:34:54] <pb1dft> 2.2.3 yes
[14-Aug-2008 11:35:07] <pb1dft> and googlemapping crashes like hell
[14-Aug-2008 11:35:58] <MmeNetView> I heard googlemaps had trouble after 2.1.x so avoided that
[14-Aug-2008 11:36:31] <MmeNetView> I am really confused about the role of zenwinmodeler now
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:07] <MmeNetView> It seems to run if you actively model a device but doesn't show in daemons tab and doesnt have a logfile
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:08] <pb1dft> just only using the product for a few days
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:40] <MmeNetView> Sounds like going to 2.2.3 is not going to help!
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:41] <pb1dft> trying to get things going and the bugs i have now are pretty annoying
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:54] <MmeNetView> ditto!!!!
[14-Aug-2008 11:59:48] <pann> dunno im pretty new to zen but im getting warning like : threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded:
[14-Aug-2008 11:59:51] <pann> from cisco routers
[14-Aug-2008 12:00:35] <pann> although i think thats a problem with zen polling the device as it doesnt recognise the interface
[14-Aug-2008 12:10:19] <pb1dft> pann: indeed i get that on vlan interfaces
[14-Aug-2008 12:33:33] <MmeNetView> off for lunch
[14-Aug-2008 12:41:20] <pb1dft> anyone have any idea how to clear everything ?
[14-Aug-2008 12:41:34] <pb1dft> so i have a clean setu again
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[14-Aug-2008 13:50:29] <IoNu|z> anyone getting this?
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> zenactions run
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 643, in ?
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> za.run()
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 496, in run
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:32] <IoNu|z> self.schedule.run()
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:34] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 91, in run
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:36] <IoNu|z> self.runEvents()
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:38] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 138, in runEvents
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:40] <IoNu|z> self.timer = self.callLater(wait)
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:42] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 145, in callLater
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:44] <IoNu|z> return reactor.callLater(seconds, self.runEvents)
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:46] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/internet/base.py", line 458, in callLater
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:48] <IoNu|z> assert sys.maxint >= _seconds >= 0, \
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:50] <IoNu|z> AssertionError: 8.64e+26 is not greater than or equal to 0 seconds
[14-Aug-2008 13:56:31] <MmeNetView> Nope - have you tried zenactions run -v10 for some more debugging?
[14-Aug-2008 14:19:02] <IoNu|z> i just restored a backup
[14-Aug-2008 14:19:18] <IoNu|z> not sure what the problem was but it`s fixed now
[14-Aug-2008 14:20:07] <IoNu|z> now... why am i getting Error reading value for "VLANXX" on device (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[14-Aug-2008 14:20:18] <IoNu|z> and then it clears automaticly
[14-Aug-2008 14:38:29] <mib_cvxhwq> I am getting this message from a Cisco Switch: Unrouted Vlan 35: Perf/Interface: "threshold of Performance exceeded: current value 7065.64"
[14-Aug-2008 14:44:44] <mib_cvxhwq> I created a new Threshold called "propVirtual" which is how the IpInterface Type is called...and I did not set any Max & MIn thresholds, this should have worked to handle the Vlan percentage threshold....why is it not?
[14-Aug-2008 14:55:06] <IoNu|z> mib_cvxhwq maybe you have 2 templates checking that?
[14-Aug-2008 14:57:00] <jb> sup mray..
[14-Aug-2008 14:57:44] <mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone
[14-Aug-2008 14:58:32] <jb> want to nudge the sales team for me?
[14-Aug-2008 14:58:34] <IoNu|z> mornin
[14-Aug-2008 14:58:52] <jb> I have tried twice to contact them regarding enterprise..
[14-Aug-2008 14:59:34] <mrayzenoss> __ian__ and I will be fielding most questions this morning, feel free to PM us and we can take discussions offline if necessary.
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[14-Aug-2008 14:59:51] <mrayzenoss> jb: PM me and I'll ping your sales guy
[14-Aug-2008 15:00:03] <jb> mrayzenoss: well, as you probably know, I am still tryign to solve my graph gaps problem..
[14-Aug-2008 15:00:29] <mrayzenoss> jb: oh yeah, I asked EAD about that yesterday
[14-Aug-2008 15:00:37] <jb> any progress being made on it?
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:27] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3536
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:35] <mrayzenoss> I'll ping the devs who worked on that
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3536 (Gaps in RRD Graphs because of random zenperfsnmp pauses/halts) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:54] <IoNu|z> anyone know why i`m keep getting heartbeat failure?
[14-Aug-2008 15:03:30] <mrayzenoss> IoNu|z: is one of your daemons going down?
[14-Aug-2008 15:03:40] <IoNu|z> they show green
[14-Aug-2008 15:03:58] <mrayzenoss> which heartbeat is failing?
[14-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <__ian__> is it a windows daemon?
[14-Aug-2008 15:04:43] <IoNu|z> zenwin
[14-Aug-2008 15:04:55] <mrayzenoss> cgibbons?
[14-Aug-2008 15:05:02] <IoNu|z> zentrap syslog status ping snmp eventlog command
[14-Aug-2008 15:05:29] <__ian__> oh. well, that's probably not the problem I was investigating last night.
[14-Aug-2008 15:05:53] <__ian__> any tracebacks in the logs?
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:12] <IoNu|z> mmyeah
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:17] <IoNu|z> let me post them somewhere
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:26] <otakup0pe> so out of curiosity how many devs are in here now ?
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:37] <jb> looks like 1
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:41] <__ian__> three with obvious names
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:49] <__ian__> others might be hiding...
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:50] <IoNu|z> http://pastebin.com/d775cea57
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:57] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:16] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: well, some are lurking but I count 3 devs, 2 client services and a community manager
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:18] <ericnewton> well, there's your problem
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:25] <__ian__> ooh, that's a good one
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:38] <__ian__> take it away, ericnewton
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:52] <ericnewton> ha... should stayed lurking
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:58] <otakup0pe> haha.
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:58] <russbzenoss>
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:05] <__ian__> I'd just have IMed you asking for help.
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:09] <ericnewton> gimme a sec
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:13] <__ian__> you can't hide from me.
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:43] <ericnewton> IoNu|z: what's going on in the zeo.log file?
[14-Aug-2008 15:11:35] <MajereDB8> hi, i just wanted to see if there has been any change or improvement to get zenpop3 event generation working
[14-Aug-2008 15:12:05] <IoNu|z> http://pastebin.com/d68806d1d
[14-Aug-2008 15:12:12] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:13:15] <ericnewton> IoNu|z: probably a cache file issue...
[14-Aug-2008 15:13:34] <ericnewton> stop zenoss, rm $ZENHOME/var/*.zec, start zenoss
[14-Aug-2008 15:13:58] <ericnewton> if that doesn't fix it, your database is hectored
[14-Aug-2008 15:14:38] <MmeNetView> Does anyone have the MIB Browser ZenPack working on 2.2.0?
[14-Aug-2008 15:15:05] <mrayzenoss> I tested it with 2.2.0 a bit, there seems to be an issue with uninstalling it
[14-Aug-2008 15:15:16] <Sain0rs> on a related note, any plans to update the zenmib import process to automatically import dependent mibs?
[14-Aug-2008 15:15:51] <MmeNetView> Correct - it fails to uninstall - thread running on forum
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:07] <MmeNetView> I aslo don't see any MIB tree...
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:18] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: you don't get the pop-up?
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:28] <__ian__> MajereDB8: Looks like the zenpop3 tickets didn't have a milestone associated with them in Trac, which means they don't get looked at very often.
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:50] <IoNu|z> now... zenactions won`t start
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:51] <__ian__> I'm setting them to 2.3.
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:51] <MmeNetView> I get the popup but the MIB tree part at the bottom is empty - or possibly truncated / not rendered properly
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:18] <ericnewton> zenpop is not going to happen in 2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:27] <IoNu|z> this is what it says when i do zenactions run
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:28] <IoNu|z> http://pastebin.com/d1ac5bbc6
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:33] <mrayzenoss> Sain0rs: Do you actually need to MIBs? They're not really needed for monitoring, just for parsing traps
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:39] <__ian__> ericnewton: No, it won't, but it'll get reviewed.
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:39] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:19:13] <MajereDB8> __ian__: i know you all have a lot on your plate, so i appreciate that you're at least reviewing it. if i can get zenpop working, it would allow me to monitor and acknowledge events from my cell phone or other sms devices, which is a really killer feature
[14-Aug-2008 15:19:57] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I could see it not working for everything, it's a community ZenPack that the user wrote from scratch. It's cool, but possibly buggy
[14-Aug-2008 15:20:15] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: of course not being to uninstall it is annoying
[14-Aug-2008 15:20:18] <MajereDB8> sadly i suck at python so i'm just the average feature requester :-\. but i appreciate it!
[14-Aug-2008 15:20:55] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I'll see about a fix for uninstalling it cleanly
[14-Aug-2008 15:21:30] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I'll post it to the thread once it's documented
[14-Aug-2008 15:21:51] <MmeNetView> Great - thanks. If you saw the MIB tree, do you know what browser you used? I have Firefox 2.0.0.6
[14-Aug-2008 15:22:47] <mrayzenoss> it was probably FireFox 2.0.X when I first used it, now I'm on 3.01
[14-Aug-2008 15:23:00] <IoNu|z> why won`t my zenactions start?
[14-Aug-2008 15:23:31] <mrayzenoss> I also took the screenshots on the MibBrowser page with Safari
[14-Aug-2008 15:23:58] <__ian__> member:identifier:ionu|z: Looking at it
[14-Aug-2008 15:24:05] <IoNu|z> thank you
[14-Aug-2008 15:24:34] <mrayzenoss> Any OSX users? I'm running a short beta test of our OSX installer if there are any volunteers
[14-Aug-2008 15:26:07] <jb> nope
[14-Aug-2008 15:26:13] <chudler> mray: I don't have OSX Server but I'll give it a shot on just OSX if you want
[14-Aug-2008 15:26:33] <mrayzenoss> chudler: Thanks. The more people who check it out the better
[14-Aug-2008 15:27:46] <MmeNetView> How do I create a signature to add to forum entries?
[14-Aug-2008 15:28:08] <__ian__> MmeNetView: If you figure it out, let me know. I was baffled by that last week.
[14-Aug-2008 15:28:09] <MmeNetView> I have the box ticked that says to add the signature, but I can't see how to create one.
[14-Aug-2008 15:28:25] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[14-Aug-2008 15:29:26] <MmeNetView> I think Matt has it as his entries all seem to have a signature....
[14-Aug-2008 15:29:32] <mrayzenoss> I just turned on my signature in Profile->Preferences
[14-Aug-2008 15:29:51] <mrayzenoss> but I don't see a box for where to put a signature
[14-Aug-2008 15:30:15] <__ian__> IoNu|z: Can you try running zenactions with debugging? zenactions run -v10
[14-Aug-2008 15:30:28] <mrayzenoss> You can also subscribe to the forums via email, and use your email signature
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:13] <MmeNetView> Yup - I have the Profile-> Preferences ticked but no signature
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:13] <IoNu|z> sure
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:16] <IoNu|z> here it is http://pastebin.com/d5fa6e9c5
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:25] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:32:11] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I can't find it. We are investigating replacements for the forums and community website right now, so this is a temporary issue
[14-Aug-2008 15:32:34] <mib_cvxhwq> I created a new Threshold called "propVirtual" which is how the IpInterface Type is called...and I did not set any Max & MIn thresholds, this should have worked to handle the Vlan percentage threshold....why is it not?
[14-Aug-2008 15:32:54] <IoNu|z> i thimnk it was my stupid schedule
[14-Aug-2008 15:33:20] <IoNu|z> modified that and now it starts
[14-Aug-2008 15:33:24] <__ian__> Yeah, it was the schedule
[14-Aug-2008 15:33:48] <__ian__> What did you modify to make it work?
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:14] <IoNu|z> the schedule
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:17] <IoNu|z> on alerting rules
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:21] <mib_cvxhwq> The template that I am using are the defaults plus the one I created..."propVirtual" ...do I have to dele the one called :ethernetMcsda" ?
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:24] <IoNu|z> the duration of it
[14-Aug-2008 15:35:06] <IoNu|z> now... why am i getting Error reading value for "VLANXX" on device (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[14-Aug-2008 15:35:25] <mib_cvxhwq> I do get the same errors with Vlans
[14-Aug-2008 15:35:47] <IoNu|z> i shouldn`t monitor vlans?
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:16] <IoNu|z> but some of the vlans work
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:17] <mib_cvxhwq> the problem with Vlans i sthat they are different type interface
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:38] <IoNu|z> it`s very hard because they are both type ethernetCsmacd
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:49] <IoNu|z> i can`t make a different template for it
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:11] <mib_cvxhwq> and the soultion has been for me what I typed before...but they are not longer working with version 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:11] <IoNu|z> i would need to chnage the template for each vlan
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:14] <ericnewton> you can change the modeler plugin to lie and make it a different type
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:20] <mib_cvxhwq> yesy you can..
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:32] <IoNu|z> oh
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:50] <IoNu|z> is there a tutorial somewhere?
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:55] <ericnewton> it's not ideal, *cough*, *kludge* , but it works
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:00] <mib_cvxhwq> click on devices...then templates...select Etherent template and then from menu select copy
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:10] <mrayzenoss> chet was working on a fix for this I believe, but I think it was targeted for 2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:27] <mib_cvxhwq> and the place it on the context of the device you are working with
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:34] <IoNu|z> oh yes...
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:42] <IoNu|z> but i would have to do that for each device...
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:47] <IoNu|z> right?
[14-Aug-2008 15:39:10] <IoNu|z> doesn`t matter not such a big issue
[14-Aug-2008 15:39:23] <mib_cvxhwq> not really like for my switches I have copied to NETWORKS location..
[14-Aug-2008 15:39:50] <mib_cvxhwq> also you need to rename your Template "propVirtual"
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:12] <IoNu|z> oh that`s another one
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:17] <IoNu|z> thioes vlans work
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:17] <mib_cvxhwq> then modified the template by removing the threshold..
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:37] <IoNu|z> does zenoss core alert when an interface goes down?
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:42] <mib_cvxhwq> then you are done
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:44] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I just pulled up a 2.2.0 VM and installed the MibBrowser ZenPack on it and loaded up a Mib with no issues. FF 3.0.1. Which MIB were you using?
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:47] <otakup0pe> oh come to think of t i have a question for devs. what's the process here, just dump it irc, or do we take numbers, or do you previously have to have bought a developer a drink
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:11] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: we try to make everybody happy
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:12] <__ian__> IoNu|z: Yes, it ought to.
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:22] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: What's the problem?
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:28] <MmeNetView> chipcom - I'll try another one
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:30] <otakup0pe> ok quick question then. i moved a device from one device group to another.
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:46] <otakup0pe> and when i'm in the 'device overview' the alerts for the device that was moved
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:51] <otakup0pe> show up in both the count for the old and the new group
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:06] <mib_cvxhwq> mrayzenoss: can you look at my situation please
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:11] <IoNu|z> well i have this Voice Over IP Peer and wehn i shut it off zenoss doesn`t alert me that it`s down...
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:13] <otakup0pe> is the solution delete/recreate the device (which although it seems logical i have not tried)
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:30] <IoNu|z> did i miss some steps maybe?
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:45] <mrayzenoss> mib_cvxhwq: PM me and I'll get you some followup
[14-Aug-2008 15:43:01] <IoNu|z> the type of the ipinterface is Voice Over IP Encapulation .. at least that`s what zenoss shows for it
[14-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <IoNu|z> in the cisco it is a dial peer
[14-Aug-2008 15:45:10] <__ian__> Do any events get thrown when you shut it off? Or does it just not notice at all?
[14-Aug-2008 15:45:25] <IoNu|z> i don`t see any notices
[14-Aug-2008 15:46:26] <IoNu|z> i do see it down when i remodel the device....
[14-Aug-2008 15:53:37] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: could you just acknowledge the events and move them to history?
[14-Aug-2008 15:53:49] <mrayzenoss> or are you getting double alerts?
[14-Aug-2008 15:54:06] <mrayzenoss> err, events
[14-Aug-2008 15:54:34] <mib_cvxhwq> I have version 2.2.3 installed and a backup from version 2.2 can I restore it safely?
[14-Aug-2008 15:55:25] <jb> i tried..
[14-Aug-2008 15:55:26] <jb> didnt work for me..
[14-Aug-2008 15:55:40] <mib_cvxhwq> jb..is that answer for me..
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:06] <jb> yes
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:06] <mib_cvxhwq> thanks
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:13] <jb> i have had 0 luck with zenbackup/zenrestore
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:33] <mib_cvxhwq> I just can't find sa way to do it..
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:39] <jb> even from 2.2.3 <-> 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:58] <mib_cvxhwq> really
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:03] <Sain0rs> any errors during the backup?
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:07] <mrayzenoss> jb: where you going from source->stack?
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:10] <MmeNetView> In 2.2, how do I track zenwinmodeler? It doesn't seem to run as a daemon
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:12] <jb> i did a zenback up 2.2.3, no errors..
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:18] <jb> then did a zenrestore to 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:21] <jb> no errors, but no devices
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:25] <mib_cvxhwq> from stack to stack
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:26] <jb> stack <-> stack
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:26] <MmeNetView> It doesn't appear in the Daemons page under Settings
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:42] <MmeNetView> it doesn't have a logfile
[14-Aug-2008 15:58:09] <MmeNetView> .. and it doesn't seem to poll periodicallyt for wmi services
[14-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <nate187> has anyone done any work with integrating radar images into the map?
[14-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <MmeNetView> It does seem to run on-demand if you actively remodel a device
[14-Aug-2008 15:59:33] <mib_cvxhwq> I want the data and settings from 2.2 stack version in a backup file to restore to stack version 2.2.3 is that something that can be done safely?
[14-Aug-2008 16:00:57] <mrayzenoss> zenbackup and zenrestore should be working, send me an email and I'll get this looked at
[14-Aug-2008 16:01:21] <jb> k
[14-Aug-2008 16:01:26] <jb> whats your email address?
[14-Aug-2008 16:02:10] <Sain0rs> what are the odds backing up from 2.2 source and restoring to 2.2.3 stack is going to work?
[14-Aug-2008 16:02:46] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[14-Aug-2008 16:03:45] <otakup0pe> mrayzenoss: double alerts
[14-Aug-2008 16:03:54] <otakup0pe> i have to commute but if you pm me responses that would be awesome <3
[14-Aug-2008 16:04:22] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: Send me an email to followup
[14-Aug-2008 16:04:30] <mrayzenoss> I've got a lot of followups to do
[14-Aug-2008 16:04:50] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: it appears there is an error in our documentation
[14-Aug-2008 16:05:21] <__ian__> mib_cvxhwq: Should work as long as zenmigrate is run
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:12] <__ian__> Sain0rs: We've tested that pretty well, so it should work fine.
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:21] <Sain0rs> sweet
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:26] <mib_cvxhwq> _ian_ :zenmigrate is run after the restore?
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:34] <MmeNetView> Which error are you referring to??
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:56] <__ian__> mib_cvxhwq: Yes. I think restore runs it automatically, but it can't hurt to make sure.
[14-Aug-2008 16:07:15] <mib_cvxhwq> very cool
[14-Aug-2008 16:07:19] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I'm looking at the ZenWinModeler question
[14-Aug-2008 16:08:28] <mib_cvxhwq> does anyone know the Uninstall command for Zenoss-stack ver. 2.2.3?
[14-Aug-2008 16:08:43] <mib_cvxhwq> I am using CEntOS 5.2
[14-Aug-2008 16:08:46] <nate187> rm -rf *
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:24] <mrayzenoss> ZenWinModeler is called by ZenModeler on demand, so no daemon
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:27] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:30] <zanaga> is there a way to easily make the database consistent again? Our database has some entries that cause grief due to missing references. zenbackup/restore just restores the same broken database.
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:43] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:43] <mrayzenoss> oops, wrong thread
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:08] <mrayzenoss> mib_cvxhwq: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23104
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:23] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Uninstall Zenoss from CentOS 5 (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:27] <__ian__> zanaga: You can try rebuilding the relations and reindexing.
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:50] <zanaga> __ian__: how do i rebuild the relations? reindexing alone doesn't help.
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:59] <__ian__> the latter first, actually. What kind of objects are the problem?
[14-Aug-2008 16:11:49] <MmeNetView> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402 - maybe right thread - seems to have an answer there anyway - will try
[14-Aug-2008 16:11:50] <zanaga> __ian__: let me pull an actual error for you.
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:22] <mib_cvxhwq> Thank you mrayzenoss...you are on the ball today...thank you for making this forum alive again !!
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:39] <mrayzenoss> Thanks!
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:55] <mib_cvxhwq> I got 2 for 2 today..
[14-Aug-2008 16:13:14] <jb> now we just need better forums!
[14-Aug-2008 16:13:24] <jb> (faster, better search, etc)
[14-Aug-2008 16:14:12] <mrayzenoss> Ian and I are going to have to wrap up today, we're going to try to have a dedicated session like this every 2 weeks. A log will be added to the blog.zenoss.com and the IRC page http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/irc
[14-Aug-2008 16:14:19] <__adytum-bot__> Title: IRC - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:14:21] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'm working on that
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:10] <MmeNetView> Still not sure where we are on zenwinmodeler???
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:34] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: ZenModeler calls ZenWinModeler, no ZenWinModeler daemon
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:45] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: was there more to the question?
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:50] <zanaga> __ian__: http://pastebin.com/m6373fc9 <- that is from installing HelloWorld zenpacjk
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:16:26] <MmeNetView> thanks - why does it not find down services is, I guess, the remaining question..
[14-Aug-2008 16:16:42] <MmeNetView> There seem to be several threads about flaky WMI
[14-Aug-2008 16:16:58] <ericnewton> wmi is a big focus of current development
[14-Aug-2008 16:17:02] <mrayzenoss> WMI is actively being worked on
[14-Aug-2008 16:17:34] <zanaga> __ian__: those things are all over the place.. luckily things work at the moment, but it's always an interesting moment to install zenpacks
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:18] <mrayzenoss> zanaga: Humor me, I assume you're running x86?
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:22] <__ian__> zanaga: all zenpacks, or just HelloWorld?
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:32] <zanaga> __ian__: most zenpacks..
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:55] <zanaga> __ian__: i've managed to fix things enough to get some zenpacks installed
[14-Aug-2008 16:20:04] <zanaga> mrayzenoss: yup
[14-Aug-2008 16:20:46] <mrayzenoss> Why don't we follow up on this in the forums? zanaga could you post a recap in the forums or send me an email and we'll get more eyes on it there?
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:23] <zanaga> sure..
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:41] <mrayzenoss> Thanks again everyone, later!
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:49] <__ian__> Later all.
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:50] <jb> seeya
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:53] <jb> thanks, guys..
[14-Aug-2008 16:22:02] <MmeNetView> Thanks - cheers!
[14-Aug-2008 16:35:38] <IoNu|z> wouldn`t it be better if the Device name would be taken from sysName ?
[14-Aug-2008 16:35:46] <IoNu|z> instead of teh dns name?
[14-Aug-2008 16:40:23] <mib_cvxhwq> in Zenoss-stack 2.2.3....how do I restore? I do see a menu option to backup..but not to restore..thank you
[14-Aug-2008 16:41:23] <IoNu|z> zenrestore --file the filename
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:11] <mib_cvxhwq> as a zenoss user or root?
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:21] <IoNu|z> zenoss user
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:25] <mib_cvxhwq> thanks
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:37] <IoNu|z> make sure you`ve stopped zenoss processes before you do that
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:42] <mib_cvxhwq> do I have to invove migrate after that?
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:53] <mib_cvxhwq> invove=invoke
[14-Aug-2008 16:43:05] <IoNu|z> i don`t think so
[14-Aug-2008 16:43:09] <IoNu|z> i didn`t...
[14-Aug-2008 16:43:11] <mib_cvxhwq> thanks
[14-Aug-2008 17:33:08] <cgibbons> hmm'
[14-Aug-2008 17:42:26] <jatindergiri> Hello, I have problem with syslog, right now I have few servers they send all the syslog to zenoss. However, those servers go through one firewall which is natting those servers before it gets to zenoss, therefore those server's logs show up under one device (firewall). Is there a way to get around this?
[14-Aug-2008 17:54:28] <mib_cvxhwq> where is zenrestore file stored in centos 5.2?
[14-Aug-2008 17:55:54] <Sain0rs> /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/bin ?
[14-Aug-2008 18:15:46] <knakka> hi
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:00] <knakka> how to populate the hardware tab for cisco devices
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:13] <knakka> don't see anything on my zenoss 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:15] <nate187> interfaces are on the os tab
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:35] <knakka> have all the mibs and everything seems fine (graphs, etc)
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:56] <knakka> i mean the line cards flash memory
[14-Aug-2008 18:17:44] <knakka> like flexWAN module on a 6000 series
[14-Aug-2008 18:43:07] <mib_cvxhwq> I got it..
[14-Aug-2008 18:43:11] <mib_cvxhwq> thanx
[14-Aug-2008 18:45:43] <mib_cvxhwq> I am logged in as a zenoss user and I am in the /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/bin/ directory where zenrestore resides..when I issue the command...zenrestore --file /usr/locla/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[14-Aug-2008 18:46:19] <mib_cvxhwq> I get an error ....-bash: zenrestore: command not found
[14-Aug-2008 18:46:47] <mib_cvxhwq> can anyone help
[14-Aug-2008 18:47:35] <mib_cvxhwq> ?
[14-Aug-2008 18:48:55] <cciew1> use ./
[14-Aug-2008 18:49:06] <cciew1> ./zenrestore if you are sitting in that directory
[14-Aug-2008 18:50:09] <nate187> anyone know of any attempts to integrate weather radar images into the map?
[14-Aug-2008 18:50:25] <mib_cvxhwq> geez...thankz
[14-Aug-2008 18:51:33] <cciew1> np
[14-Aug-2008 18:54:26] <mib_cvxhwq> it needs mysqld running when I am trying to restore..
[14-Aug-2008 18:54:46] <mib_cvxhwq> how do I start it as a zenoss user?
[14-Aug-2008 19:12:26] <cciew1> mlb: su zenoss
[14-Aug-2008 20:38:11] <nate187> is there a way to prevent zenoss from remodeling a device or an entire device class at the defined modeler cycle interval, while continuing to model everything else?
[14-Aug-2008 20:51:22] <cluther> nate187: Remove all of the zCollectorPlugins from that device or class.
[14-Aug-2008 20:51:43] <nate187> aha
[14-Aug-2008 21:31:14] <jb> hrm
[14-Aug-2008 21:31:39] <jb> zenperfsnmp is really making me angry
[14-Aug-2008 22:02:40] <jeffspeff> how would you setup zenoss core to work with systems outside of the network? i have a small (but growing) computer/networking company, and i'm wanting to start being able to monitor certain critical systems of my clients. but i don't want to have to setup a vpn. can zenoss do that?
[14-Aug-2008 22:04:29] <jb> do you have direct access to the machines?
[14-Aug-2008 22:04:34] <jb> are they accessible via the internet?
[14-Aug-2008 22:06:20] <shaskell> are you wanting to setup a zenoss core server that monitors client machines, over the Internet?
[14-Aug-2008 22:07:12] <jeffspeff> shaskell, yes
[14-Aug-2008 22:07:17] <shaskell> as long as the machines are routable, you should be able to monitor them... I'd be concerned about the security implications though, especially for your clients having machines publically accessible
[14-Aug-2008 22:08:28] <cluther>
[14-Aug-2008 22:08:45] <shaskell> you may also suffer some pain if the links are slow.... SNMP timeouts, whatnot
[14-Aug-2008 22:09:20] <jeffspeff> shaskell, the entire systems wouldn't be publicly accessible, just the zenoss part. is the snmp security not good? i'm not familiar with zenoss or snmp. several of the systems are on a fiber connection, the others are on cable.
[14-Aug-2008 22:10:01] <jeffspeff> for security reasons, would i need to setup a vpn and go that route?
[14-Aug-2008 22:10:22] <shaskell> I'd go the VPN route, yes... you could use SNMP V3 for better security, too
[14-Aug-2008 22:11:06] <shaskell> VPN can be an extra headache, but it's much safer for you and your clients to have a point-to-point VPN for this stuff
[14-Aug-2008 22:14:01] <shaskell> I guess I'm not understanding what you want to do... do you want to install zenoss servers on site at your clients and just manage them remotely?
[14-Aug-2008 22:15:11] <jeffspeff> shaskell, i'm wanting to install zenoss on one of my servers in my office, and remotely manage client servers
[14-Aug-2008 22:15:27] <shaskell> ah, okay... that's what I thought, initally
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:18] <jeffspeff> you know, it may be easier to just install a zenoss server at each clients office and login to that server remotely to manage everything
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:28] <shaskell> I'd recommend that
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:32] <jeffspeff> that seems like alot less hassle and headache
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:38] <shaskell> yeah, much better performance, to
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:39] <shaskell> too
[14-Aug-2008 22:17:01] <jeffspeff> is there a windows port? only one of my clients is running a linux server
[14-Aug-2008 22:18:16] <shaskell> I believe there's a VMware version for Windows
[14-Aug-2008 22:20:20] Cosmin is now known as IoNu|z
[14-Aug-2008 22:20:29] <IoNu|z> how do i make the lines betwwen the cities?
[14-Aug-2008 22:22:58] <jeffspeff> shaskell, i've been playing with the vmware appliance, it seems ok, don't really like the rappliance (or whatever it's called) thing about it.
[14-Aug-2008 22:23:47] <jeffspeff> also, anybody know how to get the paging thing to work? is feature able to send a text message to my cell instead of an actual pager?
[14-Aug-2008 22:25:39] <kgoedtel> what carrier do you have?
[14-Aug-2008 22:25:56] <shaskell> yeah, you should just be able to email the text to your phone email address
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:08] <kgoedtel> yeah, that's what i do
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:19] <shaskell> 123456789@mycingular.com or whatever
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:21] <shaskell> mobile.att.com
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:25] <shaskell> I'm not sure what they all are
[14-Aug-2008 22:27:18] <kgoedtel> i have tmobile and it is xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net
[14-Aug-2008 22:27:53] <kgoedtel> im assuming all carriers have something similar
[14-Aug-2008 22:28:10] <shaskell> yeah, you should be able to just google the right domain for your carrier
[14-Aug-2008 22:30:12] <jeffspeff> oh, didn't know that, i have cingular/att...
[14-Aug-2008 22:35:18] <jeffspeff> if anybody was wandering, the cingular address is now phonenumber@txt.att.net
[14-Aug-2008 22:35:48] <shaskell> yeah, try your full phone number (area code included, without the 1 prefix) @mycingular.com
[14-Aug-2008 22:38:33] <jeffspeff> rejected by server as inproper reciepient
[14-Aug-2008 22:38:52] <jeffspeff> also got a DNS Error: Domain name not found
[14-Aug-2008 22:39:40] <jeffspeff> wait, i typed clingular... lol
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> this time i got a <2705649026@mycingular.com>:
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> 204.9.89.142 does not like recipient.
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> Remote host said: 550 <2705649026@mycingular.com>...user unknown
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> Giving up on 204.9.89.142.
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:28] <jeffspeff> woops sorry about that, forgot to take out the breaks
[14-Aug-2008 22:41:33] <jeffspeff> shaskell, are there any real big advantages with zenoss enterprise as opposed to zenoss core that i would need for what i'm doing?
[14-Aug-2008 22:49:09] troy42 is now known as troy
[14-Aug-2008 23:09:42] <shaskell> try text.att.net
[14-Aug-2008 23:24:13] <cbleach> Anyone able to get layer 3 dependencies working correctly?
[14-Aug-2008 23:25:16] <cbleach> Zenoss seems to be aware of the network topology - had discovered the netowork topology correctly., but does not supres events correctly.
[14-Aug-2008 23:45:07] <jeffspeff> shaskell, are there any real big advantages with zenoss enterprise as opposed to zenoss core that i would need for what i'm doing?
[14-Aug-2008 23:46:03] <shaskell> I guess it depends on how technical you are... you'll get support with Enterprise and the forums/IRC are your support with core
[14-Aug-2008 23:46:40] <shaskell> so if you're not familiar with scripting/SNMP/Linux/monitoring systems
[14-Aug-2008 23:46:49] <shaskell> it may be a steep learning curve
[14-Aug-2008 23:47:33] <shaskell> and even though it's a great product, there are still lots of small issues/quirks that are tough to track down
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[15-Aug-2008 00:03:25] <cbleach> Is there a way to print the pingtree that zenoss uses for dependencies?
[15-Aug-2008 00:46:38] <cbleach> in case anyone else has this problem you can achive this with the buildTree function from Products.ZenStatus.pingtree
[15-Aug-2008 04:06:24] <Dorado> I am new to the world of zope and OOP. I have read through the zope developers guide and have a basic grasp on the concepts but I am struggling with not having functions like I would in perl/php.
[15-Aug-2008 04:07:32] <Dorado> does anyone know of a doc that would help me understand how to retrive data from a remote part (context) of the zope system?
[15-Aug-2008 04:13:50] <DaveTo1> hi
[15-Aug-2008 04:13:55] <DaveTo1> hmm
[15-Aug-2008 04:14:27] <Dorado> for example various skin files (Products/ZenModel/skins/zenomdel) call getInterfaceName() from Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py I am trying to access this data from Products/DataCollector and other (non-ZenModel) parts of the system?
[15-Aug-2008 04:14:36] <Dorado> DaveTo1: I am here?
[15-Aug-2008 04:14:49] <Dorado> not much else going on though.
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[15-Aug-2008 04:30:20] <DaveTo1> no
[15-Aug-2008 04:30:34] <DaveTo1> I'm trying to figure out how to run the vmware appliance on esx
[15-Aug-2008 04:30:36] <DaveTo1> if I can
[15-Aug-2008 05:17:29] <Dorado> We run the appliance, our infrastructure team imported it, they didnt complain so I guess they didnt have too much trouble.
[15-Aug-2008 05:17:39] <Dorado> but they do esx every day....
[15-Aug-2008 07:44:14] jane_ is now known as Jane_Curry
[15-Aug-2008 07:48:03] Jane_Curry is now known as MmeNetView
[15-Aug-2008 12:37:53] <pb1dft> anyone awake
[15-Aug-2008 12:38:22] <cgibbons> barely
[15-Aug-2008 12:39:33] <Dorado> sometimes
[15-Aug-2008 12:39:55] <pb1dft> lol
[15-Aug-2008 12:40:04] <pb1dft> nvm for a sec might have found my problem
[15-Aug-2008 12:48:42] <mib_arkdum> I am using zenoss-stack 2.2.3 I am trying to restore from zenoss-tack version 2.2, I have to stop zenoss daemons but I need to Mysql running to do the restore. Question: how do I stop zenoss and have MYSQLD running in the background at the same time?
[15-Aug-2008 12:49:57] <mib_arkdum> using root: /etc/init.d/zenoss-stack stop, will stop everything including mysqld.
[15-Aug-2008 12:53:06] <nemo_> why not start mysql again, just on its own ?
[15-Aug-2008 13:07:54] <mib_arkdum> how do I do that..
[15-Aug-2008 13:08:08] <mib_arkdum> I tried it as root user..
[15-Aug-2008 13:08:20] <mib_arkdum> and zenoss user and get he same response
[15-Aug-2008 13:09:40] <mib_arkdum> "no such file or directory"
[15-Aug-2008 13:11:40] <nemo_> google : how to restart mysql
[15-Aug-2008 13:11:47] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-869.html
[15-Aug-2008 13:13:52] <pb1dft> mib_arkdum: /usr/local/zenoss/zenconsole
[15-Aug-2008 13:14:06] <pb1dft> mib_arkdum: zenoss stop
[15-Aug-2008 13:14:18] <pb1dft> should stop all deamon except mysql
[15-Aug-2008 13:14:34] <pb1dft> at least it does here
[15-Aug-2008 13:15:07] <cgibbons> the stack installs are different
[15-Aug-2008 13:15:22] <pb1dft> i run a stack install myself
[15-Aug-2008 13:19:41] <baffle> su - zenoss ; zenoss stop
[15-Aug-2008 13:19:54] <baffle> cgibbons: That is on my stack at least.
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:07] <cgibbons> yep
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:13] <pb1dft> thats the same as starting the zenconsole
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:29] <pb1dft> except all env get loaded in zenconsole
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:50] <mib_arkdum> Thanks pb1dft: good answer
[15-Aug-2008 13:21:04] <pb1dft> np
[15-Aug-2008 13:22:01] <mib_arkdum> iI was on the mind set that MYSQL was also stopped at the zenoss-stack stop command, but that is not the case apparently
[15-Aug-2008 13:23:19] <mib_arkdum> can anyone explain this to me please...when I got from the user root to the zenoss user....root>su - zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:23:55] <mib_arkdum> this is what I get
[15-Aug-2008 13:23:59] <mib_arkdum> [root@zenmon ~]# su - zenoss -bash: /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh.: No such file or directory [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:20] <pb1dft> mib_arkdum: chmod +x /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:26] <mib_arkdum> nevertheless the promt changes to zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:31] <pb1dft> chown zenoss.zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:52] <mib_arkdum> is that a bug or something like that
[15-Aug-2008 13:25:08] <pb1dft> bug
[15-Aug-2008 13:25:47] <mib_arkdum> oh..thankyou I was on the path of thinking it was a bad installation
[15-Aug-2008 13:26:08] <mib_arkdum> you are really on the pb1dft !!!
[15-Aug-2008 13:26:25] <mib_arkdum> Do you work for them Zenmasters?
[15-Aug-2008 13:28:36] <pb1dft> No but i would like some more tech persons in here to helpout with the really diff shit
[15-Aug-2008 13:29:33] <pb1dft> have to drive home
[15-Aug-2008 13:33:59] <cgibbons> there's quite a few zenoss employees that hang out here but they aren't always paying attention
[15-Aug-2008 13:34:40] <nemo_> well i understand why
[15-Aug-2008 13:35:03] <nemo_> dont you get bored of the same old questions, etc. if its in google i wouldnt support it either
[15-Aug-2008 13:35:46] <cgibbons> i think it's a lot less of that than just being busy with other tasks
[15-Aug-2008 13:37:31] <cgibbons> after all if the same questions come up over and over it's usually a sign the software needs to be fixed so that isn't an issue. even if it's basic 'im too lazy to read the manual' stuff
[15-Aug-2008 13:37:49] <nemo_> i assure you thats most of the questions i see here
[15-Aug-2008 13:38:33] <cgibbons> what's obvious to you is still often something that needs to be addressed differently
[15-Aug-2008 13:38:59] <cgibbons> like say.... those evil page and table menus we hav
[15-Aug-2008 13:40:25] <nemo_> thats ok
[15-Aug-2008 13:40:33] <nemo_> its each persons concience guiding them
[15-Aug-2008 13:40:43] <nemo_> i got no problems telling people to go find it on google
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:00] <mib_arkdum> I agreed nemo_ but sometimes zenoss have problems explaining themselves, one good example is the zenoss manual
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:05] <cgibbons> it does often make you wonder why a google search isn't the first thing people try. if it's not on the first page of results i can see punting but shoot it's so quick to do.
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:35] <nemo_> mib_arkdum, whatever, it doesnt mean that i should spend my time doing it when someone is too lazy to do it themselves
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:45] <nemo_> e.g. restarting mysql outside of zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:44:23] <nemo_> cgibbons, google results will largely be better quality anyway
[15-Aug-2008 13:44:47] <mib_arkdum> it is not so simple as it sounds...I was working with zenoss prior to version 2 and I always was able to stop mysql with the simple /etc/init.d/mysqld stop
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:05] <mib_arkdum> that way no longer works..it is fair to ask the question
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:07] <nemo_> mib_arkdum, you can argue if you want
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:09] <cgibbons> yep
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:15] <nemo_> its not my responsibility
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:18] <nemo_> i PAY for zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:23] <mib_arkdum> nobody is arguing
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:24] <nemo_> why do i want to work for free ?
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:53] <nemo_> zenoss might want to either say this is not a support channel
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:06] <nemo_> or bring in the zenoss boys and have them offer official support
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:15] <nemo_> but i sit here and get peoples demands
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:20] <nemo_> and ignore them ;0
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:22] <nemo_>
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:23] <mib_arkdum> you are having a bad day...we all do somtime or another
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:30] <nemo_> no bad day
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:33] <nemo_> i think you have one
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:40] <nemo_> my zenoss is running well
[15-Aug-2008 13:47:07] <mib_arkdum> Actually not...I just dont get the abrasiveness, I am not used to that
[15-Aug-2008 13:47:30] <mib_arkdum> I love IRC because of the social interaction
[15-Aug-2008 13:47:47] <nemo_> when you learn to restart a service , i might listen to you
[15-Aug-2008 13:48:01] <mib_arkdum> as I said we all have bad days
[15-Aug-2008 13:48:27] <nemo_> right oh
[15-Aug-2008 13:49:38] <cciew1> sigh
[15-Aug-2008 13:49:51] <mib_arkdum> when I change from rot user to zenoss, I get this:
[15-Aug-2008 13:50:23] <mib_arkdum> -bash: /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh.: No such file or directory [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 13:50:46] <mib_arkdum> I just followed some suggetions:
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:19] <mib_arkdum> chmod +x /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:31] <nemo_> why do that
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:35] <nemo_> read the error
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:40] <nemo_> no such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:40] <mib_arkdum> chown zenoss.zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:01] <mib_arkdum> well the file is there, the one is been called for..
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:13] <mib_arkdum> and it is inthe path..
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:18] <nemo_> run your script sh -x script.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:39] <nemo_> might give you more info, but if you get that error, it wont be chmodding
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:46] <mib_arkdum> setenv.sh script?
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:55] <nemo_> you would get a permission denied error or so in that case
[15-Aug-2008 13:53:08] <mib_arkdum> let me try..
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[15-Aug-2008 14:37:46] <ahorkan> can someone help me please with an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2?
[15-Aug-2008 14:38:01] <ahorkan> im getting an error in the install.sh script
[15-Aug-2008 14:38:06] <ahorkan> not sure what the problem is
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:13] <ahorkan> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:33] <MrTux> ahorkan: you must give the install script the root password for mysql
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:35] <ahorkan> and
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:40] <ahorkan> ok
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:41] <ahorkan>
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:56] <ahorkan> whats the option to pass the install script?
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:06] <ahorkan> -p password?
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:17] <MrTux> ahorkan: usually it asks
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:37] <ahorkan> its an upgrade, it asks if I want to keep existing DB
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:40] <ahorkan> which I do want to
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:57] <ahorkan> I took a backup of the old one, it was running fine this morning on the same system
[15-Aug-2008 14:41:16] <ahorkan> so I say keep existing DB
[15-Aug-2008 14:41:27] <ahorkan> and I presume it tries to use settings from previous install
[15-Aug-2008 14:41:47] <MrTux> ahorkan: that's the zenoss internal db, not the mysql db, that's another one...
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:27] <DaveTo1> ahorkan:
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:32] <DaveTo1> don't upgrade !
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:33] <ahorkan> I get the mysql error and then a few lines later the script gives up
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:36] <DaveTo1> heh
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:51] <DaveTo1> ahorkan: how many systems are you monitoring?
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:56] DaveTo1 is now known as DaveToo
[15-Aug-2008 14:43:33] <ahorkan> 50 or so
[15-Aug-2008 14:43:43] <DaveToo> oh, then you probably won't have any trouble
[15-Aug-2008 14:44:18] <DaveToo> On the Mysql password thing ... I gave up on this problem with the upgrades
[15-Aug-2008 14:44:27] <DaveToo> and I now leave the mysql root password blank
[15-Aug-2008 14:44:46] <DaveToo> I hate it, but the upgrade script doesn't seem to have a way to specify the password
[15-Aug-2008 14:46:18] <ahorkan> damn
[15-Aug-2008 14:47:22] <ahorkan> how to I set my password blank. then change it back once the install is finished. Is there a config file for Zenoss that store the authentication ?
[15-Aug-2008 14:49:49] <DaveToo> unfortunately, I have to look at the MySQL docs every time I have to do this, 'cause I don't do it often enough to remember
[15-Aug-2008 14:55:36] <ahorkan> I found it cheers
[15-Aug-2008 14:55:43] <ahorkan> fingers crossed this time
[15-Aug-2008 14:57:56] <ahorkan> ok, I dont get the SQL error anymore but I get this one instead a few lines after :
[15-Aug-2008 14:57:57] <ahorkan> ZConfig.SchemaResourceError: could not load package ZODB: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/persistent/cPersistence.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:37] <ahorkan> its in the section where it says this at the start: Starting Zope Object Database
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:41] <DaveToo> how did you fix the password?
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:54] <ahorkan> reset root mysql to blank
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:58] <DaveToo> oh
[15-Aug-2008 14:59:11] <DaveToo> let me see if I can remember how I fixed that UCS2 thing....
[15-Aug-2008 14:59:11] <ahorkan> have to change that once its running again
[15-Aug-2008 15:01:07] <DaveToo> I think that error might be related to the need to update the zodb to a new version...
[15-Aug-2008 15:02:59] <DaveToo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4567&highlight=cpersistence+undefined&sid=6ff85ca29118562854d1ee7f41dfc9e4I
[15-Aug-2008 15:03:09] <DaveToo> (not as I remembered)
[15-Aug-2008 15:03:16] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Update to 2.1.70 fails on start (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Aug-2008 15:10:52] <ahorkan> ok, that got further, but now I get this:
[15-Aug-2008 15:10:55] <ahorkan> Error: 2.4 is not an existing path
[15-Aug-2008 15:10:55] <ahorkan> (line 41 in file:///usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf)
[15-Aug-2008 15:11:54] <ahorkan> zenoss@zenoss:~/zenoss-2.2.3$ /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py -h
[15-Aug-2008 15:11:54] <ahorkan> bash: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py: Permission denied
[15-Aug-2008 15:12:08] <ahorkan> any ideas anyone?
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:05] <DaveToo> did you do the chown and chmod to make certain things suid?
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:06] <ahorkan> :-D
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:13] <DaveToo> and are you operating as the zenoss user?
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:49] <ahorkan> the zenoss install folder?
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:00] <ahorkan> or /usr/local/zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:22] <DaveToo> did you "su" to "zenoss"?
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:24] <ahorkan> chown -R zenoss:zenoss /usr/local/zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:33] <ahorkan> yes I su to zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 15:15:30] <DaveToo> i don't remember which, but at the end of the install/upgrade script there's a message instructing you to make a file suid-root
[15-Aug-2008 15:15:59] <ahorkan> i didnt see that part yet
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:15] <mib_arkdum> can anyone tell me how to stop mysqld.....I am using ways that I know and it doe snot work..I am using the stack ver. 2.2.3, I tried as root the following /etc/init.d/mysqld stop
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:22] <mib_arkdum> service mysqld stop
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:45] <mib_arkdum> I just can't get it to work..
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:55] <mib_arkdum> this all changed withthe stack version
[15-Aug-2008 15:21:22] <jsm> i need to monitor disk I/O.. is it not possible with snmp?
[15-Aug-2008 15:23:58] <cgibbons> mib_arkddum: how about /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/scripts/ctl.sh stop or start?
[15-Aug-2008 15:24:39] <ahorkan> if I reinstall my system from scratch, what distro is best supported?
[15-Aug-2008 15:24:59] <ahorkan> the backup I have from 2.1, can I use that to restore my system to a fresh install of 2.2?
[15-Aug-2008 15:25:30] <ahorkan> im beginning to think a packaged rpm version of zenoss is going to be easier to administrate
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:04] <ahorkan> my install script still stops
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> Starting Zope Object Database
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> Error: 2.4 is not an existing path
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> (line 41 in file:///usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf)
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> For help, use /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py -h
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> unable to start Zeo object database
[15-Aug-2008 15:28:04] <ahorkan> line 41 in zeo.conf is this:
[15-Aug-2008 15:28:08] <ahorkan> logfile $INSTANCE/log/zeo.log
[15-Aug-2008 15:31:02] <ahorkan> any ideas people:)
[15-Aug-2008 15:31:14] <ahorkan> really apreciate the help, this thing is driving me nuts
[15-Aug-2008 15:40:32] <ahorkan> does anyone know if the backup file can be restored to a 2.2 version from 2.1?
[15-Aug-2008 15:41:02] <mib_arkdum> cgibbons: that worked !! thanks
[15-Aug-2008 16:02:18] <mib_arkdum> What is wrong with this commnad? [zenoss@zenmon ~]$ ./zenrestore --file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:02:40] <mib_arkdum> -bash: ./zenrestore: No such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 16:02:52] <mib_arkdum> [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 16:03:20] <mib_arkdum> I am not able to executed as a zenoss user..
[15-Aug-2008 16:06:02] <cgibbons> where are you at when you run it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:09:49] <kgoedtel> wow really strange problem in zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 16:10:34] <kgoedtel> i have 2 systems that are generating performance reports as if they exist in 3 different systems groups
[15-Aug-2008 16:10:49] <kgoedtel> but i verified that they are both only in one
[15-Aug-2008 16:10:51] <kgoedtel> via
[15-Aug-2008 16:11:03] <kgoedtel> /zport/dmd/Systems/manage_workspace
[15-Aug-2008 16:13:16] <mib_arkdum> I am at /home/zenoss/
[15-Aug-2008 16:13:34] <MrTux> mib_arkdum: use $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore as pat
[15-Aug-2008 16:13:35] <MrTux> h
[15-Aug-2008 16:16:06] <mib_arkdum> so, would look like this: ./zenrestore --file $ZENHOME/bin/backups/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
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[15-Aug-2008 16:18:45] <MrTux> mib_arkdum: $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore --file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:19:23] <mib_arkdum> so, would look like this: $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:20:04] <mib_arkdum> oh thanks..I go you now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:21:36] <mib_arkdum> still no joy ...
[15-Aug-2008 16:22:10] <mib_arkdum> I am executing it as zenoss user...zenoss services are stopped and mysqld is running.\
[15-Aug-2008 16:27:58] <mib_arkdum> [zenoss@zenmon ~]$ $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore --file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backups/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:28:11] <mib_arkdum> -bash: /bin/zenrestore: No such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 16:28:24] <mib_arkdum> [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 16:29:16] <kso512> mib_arkdum: perhaps your $ZENHOME environment variable is not set?
[15-Aug-2008 16:29:38] <kso512> mib_arkdum: What response do you get when you enter "echo $ZENHOME" ?
[15-Aug-2008 16:29:49] <mib_arkdum> wait
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:25] <mib_arkdum> I just get and extra empty line
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:38] <mib_arkdum> like a hard return..
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:47] <kso512> mib_arkdum: That means your $ZENHOME environment variable is empty...
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:56] <mib_arkdum> do I have to be a zenoss user?
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:12] <mib_arkdum> how could it be..
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:22] <jb> yes.
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:26] <mib_arkdum> is that possible?
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:27] <kso512> mib_arkdum: That helps, but they're not intrinsically tied together...
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:35] <jb> $ZENHOME is set by the zen's profile
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:41] <jb> setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:14] <mib_arkdum> so If I reinstall zenoss, would that fix it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:32] <mib_arkdum> my data is backup from version 2.2
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:37] <jb> "su - zenoss" as root
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:41] <jb> and type echo $ZENHOME
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:54] <mib_arkdum> wait please
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:31] <mib_arkdum> -bash: /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh.: No such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:38] <mib_arkdum> that is what I get
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:46] <jb> ls -la /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:54] <mib_arkdum> notice the trailing period on the script name
[15-Aug-2008 16:34:17] <mib_arkdum> does not match with the one in the setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:34:21] <jb> ls -la /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:34:22] <jb> heh
[15-Aug-2008 16:35:02] <mib_arkdum> hold please
[15-Aug-2008 16:35:28] <mib_arkdum> as a zenoss user
[15-Aug-2008 16:35:32] <mib_arkdum> -rwxr-xr-x 1 zenoss zenoss 1549 Aug 14 12:24 /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:27] <jb> hm
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:30] <jb> chmod 644 it
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:36] <jb> and see if you can manually run it
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:48] <russbzenoss> you might want 755 to manually run it
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:01] <russbzenoss> but it's already 755, so i digress...
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:04] <jb> yeah..
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:08] <russbzenoss> what was calling it to begin with?
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:23] <russbzenoss> that might be a good place to look...maybe thats where the trailing "." came from
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:32] <mib_arkdum> so which one is it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:38] <jb> ~zenoss/.bashrc should be calling it
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:44] <mib_arkdum> 644 0r 755?
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:48] <russbzenoss> 755
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:48] <jb> its already 755..
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:52] <russbzenoss> but its already that way
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:55] <mib_arkdum> ok..
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:56] <russbzenoss> can you paste the .bashrc
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:56] <jb> can you manually run it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:00] <jb> and check .bashrc
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:23] <mib_arkdum> did you read my comment about the setenv.sh. having a trailing period
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:34] <jb> are you reading ours?
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:35] <jb>
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:40] <jb> check your .bashrc
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:49] <russbzenoss> i did see that...
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:56] <mib_arkdum> I did and it has the trailing period
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:57] <russbzenoss> can you type "cat ~/.bashrc"
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:59] <russbzenoss> ok
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:01] <russbzenoss> remove that
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:03] <russbzenoss> and then relogin
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:04] <jb> so remove the trailing period
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:09] <mib_arkdum> remove the period..?
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:10] <russbzenoss> and see if you still get the error
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:17] <mib_arkdum> give me a sec
[15-Aug-2008 16:41:17] <mib_arkdum> This is good so far...I do not get an error when I switch from root to zenoss user..
[15-Aug-2008 16:41:41] <jb> is $ZENHOME set?
[15-Aug-2008 16:41:54] <mib_arkdum> hold please
[15-Aug-2008 16:42:49] <mib_arkdum> this is my response from echo $ZENHOME: /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 16:42:55] <jb> ok, so you are good
[15-Aug-2008 16:43:23] <mib_arkdum> it is a little bug in the .bashrc file....hmmm
[15-Aug-2008 16:43:45] <mib_arkdum> let me try the restore command now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:06] <mib_arkdum> Wonderfull job guys !!
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:13] <mib_arkdum> Everything works now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:24] <kso512> mib_arkdum: no problem. Be sure to pay your IRC bill
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:25] <mib_arkdum> restore also works
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:59] <mib_arkdum> I don't know if I have any money left my Porn bills are killing me
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:27] <mib_arkdum> I wonder if someone file the bug already
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:39] <jb> what version are you running?
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:43] <jb> that is not a bug that I am aware of..
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:46] <mib_arkdum> 2.2.3
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:51] <mib_arkdum> stack version
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:59] <jb> im running the same, and mine doesn't have the extra "."
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:11] <mib_arkdum> how did it get there..
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:18] <mib_arkdum> I never edited that file..
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:24] <jb> not sure..
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:33] <mib_arkdum> are you running the satck version?
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:43] <jb> yes.
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:51] <mib_arkdum> same here
[15-Aug-2008 16:48:23] <mib_arkdum> I have an entry in the forums and I am going to post the answer now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:48:26] <mib_arkdum> thank you
[15-Aug-2008 17:03:11] <mib_arkdum> When I restore from zenoss-stack 2.2 to 2.2.3, is there any need to run zenmigrate?
[15-Aug-2008 17:16:13] <pb1dft> back
[15-Aug-2008 17:18:55] <pb1dft> there i see there was quite some activity while i was gone
[15-Aug-2008 17:19:05] <cciew1> zzzzz
[15-Aug-2008 17:20:11] <pb1dft> lol
[15-Aug-2008 17:25:49] <shaskell> Is anyone running 2.2.3 and experiencing a really slow UI?
[15-Aug-2008 17:26:12] <shaskell> I've got some servers on a point-to-point VPN and 2.2.0 runs super snappy, 2.2.3 crawls
[15-Aug-2008 17:26:29] <shaskell> took over 90 seconds to load the Users tab in settings, on 2.2.3
[15-Aug-2008 17:26:40] <shaskell> same dataset on 2.2.0 took under 1 second
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[15-Aug-2008 17:56:40] <mib_arkdum> When I restore from zenoss-stack 2.2 to 2.2.3, is there any need to run zenmigrate?
[15-Aug-2008 18:02:49] <kjdx> Unless I installed zenoss and I wanted to know if someone can give me a hand because I speak only in Italy is difficult to understand everything from driving only
[15-Aug-2008 18:03:32] <kjdx> I installed ZenPack to monitor a server and domains
[15-Aug-2008 18:04:07] <kjdx> but I do not understand how to get the monitor to view the status of servers and domains
[15-Aug-2008 18:04:25] <kjdx> someone is willing to help me?
[15-Aug-2008 18:06:47] <kso512> kjdx: Reading the administration manual should provide the best help you can get. You may have to read it a couple of times, and research what some of the words and ideas mean, but it will help a lot! It did me
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[15-Aug-2008 19:10:14] <IoNu|z> anyone online?
[15-Aug-2008 19:11:31] <IoNu|z> i added a cisco 6506 and .... it was like 4 hours ago
[15-Aug-2008 19:11:38] <IoNu|z> and it still didn`t add anything
[15-Aug-2008 19:11:57] <IoNu|z> anyoen have an ideea of why this is happening?
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:16] <ahorkan> hi there
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:33] <ahorkan> I need some help restoring a backup of zenoss from 2.1 to the latest release
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:39] <ahorkan> im running ubuntu server
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:51] <ahorkan> tarball source release of each
[15-Aug-2008 19:15:18] <ahorkan> I can install my system from scratch but not make the upgrade, and now I have problems once I restore my backup with the zenrestore command
[15-Aug-2008 19:15:29] <ahorkan> the command completes, but then zoectl wont start
[15-Aug-2008 19:15:36] <ahorkan> anyone have any ideas?
[15-Aug-2008 19:17:55] <IoNu|z> what do the logs say?
[15-Aug-2008 19:21:05] <ahorkan> ZConfig.SchemaResourceError: could not load package ZODB: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/persistent/cPersistence.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[15-Aug-2008 19:21:20] <ahorkan> this only happens once I restore my backup
[15-Aug-2008 19:21:47] <ahorkan> is there a way to manually just put my monitored hosts back without restoring and breaking the rest of the system>
[15-Aug-2008 19:22:21] <ahorkan> can I take just part of the backup tarball and and manually copy that to a working fresh installation?
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> ZConfig.SchemaResourceError: could not load package ZODB: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/persistent/cPersistence.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> Package name: 'ZODB'
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> File name: 'component.xml'
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> Package path: None
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:33] <ahorkan> I get that when I do a zenoss start after the backup restore
[15-Aug-2008 19:34:50] <IoNu|z> what version are you trying to restore to?
[15-Aug-2008 21:57:48] <JamesCard> I just installed Zonoss 2.2.3 on Ubuntu 8.04; have the software started, and I'm looking at the login screen at http://localhost:8080/. What are the default username and password?
[15-Aug-2008 21:57:48] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[15-Aug-2008 22:09:52] <JamesCard> I've installed Zenoss 2.2.3 on Ubuntu 8.04; have the software started, and I'm looking at the login screen at http://localhost:8080/. What are the default username and password? I don't see that information in the Admin Guide, on the Wiki, in any of the install guides, nor in any of the ReadMe files in /usr/local/zenoss.
[15-Aug-2008 22:09:52] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[15-Aug-2008 22:10:36] <kso512> JamesCard: try "admin" for the username and "zenoss" as the password
[15-Aug-2008 22:10:55] <JamesCard> kso512: Thanks!
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[16-Aug-2008 02:15:11] <meteoroid> hey i didn't know you guys use PushToTest TestMaker
[16-Aug-2008 02:15:24] <meteoroid> I am trying to get zenoss running to monitor pushtotest.com for frank cohen, one of my favorite customers
[16-Aug-2008 02:15:35] <meteoroid> trying to figure out how to use Test4Web stuff myself to make FT for Plone
[16-Aug-2008 02:18:46] <meteoroid> i was like using spotlight to search for Test4Web or whatever it's called and these files came up in ZenUITests product
[16-Aug-2008 02:19:22] <meteoroid> and yes, if pushtotest.com is down, it's probably my fault. :/
[16-Aug-2008 02:20:56] <meteoroid> (which is why i'm trying to get better monitoring in place)
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[16-Aug-2008 07:33:43] <kjdx__> You can add additional collectors to Zenoss to allow for better performance and scaling when the device count gets too large for one collector. This number is somewhere between 1000 and 1200 devices. When a Zenoss collector is collecting data from more than that number of devices, it becomes harder for the collector to complete the collection cycle in the given cycle interval time. The default collector is localhost, but
[16-Aug-2008 07:33:45] <kjdx__> you can add another instance of Zenoss on another server to act as a collector. In prior versions of Zenoss, these collectors were known as Performance Monitors and Status Monitors.
[16-Aug-2008 07:33:50] <kjdx__> ops
[16-Aug-2008 07:33:52] <kjdx__> sorry
[16-Aug-2008 07:34:06] <kjdx__> hello if I wanted to know why I put the key google map of a domain my tells me that the key is already used and therefore I can not use it
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[17-Aug-2008 15:43:41] <jatindergiri> Hello, I am monitoring cisco 2600 with zenoss, and it's graphing some interface errors, but when i log into cisco i don't see any port errors any ideas?
[17-Aug-2008 20:19:06] <rbw> hello!
[17-Aug-2008 20:29:25] <meteoroid> re, rbw!
[17-Aug-2008 21:21:18] <rbw> to what extent can SNMP be used to monitor windows/linux machines? I know it can be used to gather cpu,disk,swap and memory usage etc...but is it possible to monitor things such as the number of apache processes running on a linux system?
[17-Aug-2008 21:44:45] <zanaga> rbw: i'm not sure why you want to monitor the number of apache processes, but there is a apache zenpack that allows you to monitor response time, connection pool and cpu use of apache through the builtin apache status page
[17-Aug-2008 21:50:10] <rbw_> zanaga, it was just an example refering to more advanced types of snmp checks...bad example I guess!
[17-Aug-2008 21:52:42] <zanaga> rbw_: apparently zenoss does count process instances
[17-Aug-2008 21:53:00] <zanaga> rbw_: so it should be possible to create events based on process counts
[17-Aug-2008 21:54:11] <rbw_> zanaga, I'll ask the question this way instead...what are the limits to SNMP for monitoring? I've previously used Nagios and NRPE(nagios remote plugin executor) and I'm pretty much new to SNMP.
[17-Aug-2008 21:54:21] <meteoroid> zanaga: important to know how often your boundaries of min / max processes are being bumped against
[17-Aug-2008 21:56:25] <zanaga> rbw_: snmp provides basic information about the system (on linux atleast) by default. So you get stuff like network speed/util, basic HW info, CPU/RAM util and so on..
[17-Aug-2008 21:57:10] <zanaga> rbw_: everything application specific needs to be solved by other means (nagios plugins work with zenoss)
[17-Aug-2008 21:57:50] <rbw_> zanaga, alright...that answers my question. thanks. what do you recommend, nagios or ssh?
[17-Aug-2008 21:57:53] <zanaga> meteoroid: that can be done as it is.. i don't have need for that anywhere so it's kind of hard for me to think of situations where it is needed
[17-Aug-2008 21:58:49] <zanaga> rbw_: most nagios plugins use SSH anyway and the basic SSH support in zenoss only covers some basic features.
[17-Aug-2008 21:59:55] <zanaga> rbw_: I would personally first check if there is a ZenPack for the feature i need, then consider writing one and (because i'm a lazy coder) then fall back to nagios plugins
[17-Aug-2008 22:00:32] <rbw_> (that wasn't me)
[17-Aug-2008 22:00:46] <rbw_> well, it was me, but not any more!
[17-Aug-2008 22:01:54] <rbw_> zanaga, ok. zenpacks is written in python only right?
[17-Aug-2008 22:02:05] <rbw_> zanaga, my python skills are somewhat limited.
[17-Aug-2008 22:02:30] <zanaga> python is easy to pick up =)
[17-Aug-2008 22:02:58] <zanaga> but yes, they are mostly in python. you can use other languages too since you can invoke external applications from python
[17-Aug-2008 22:03:58] <rbw_> zanaga, ok
[17-Aug-2008 22:05:23] <rbw_> zanaga, I've actually read and completed this python book like half a year ago, so I know a few I guess ...but I doubt my boss would appreciate me spending time writing zenpacks
[17-Aug-2008 22:06:40] <rbw_> zanaga, another question...do you have any experience with WMI? is it hard to set up?
[17-Aug-2008 22:09:53] <rbw_> zanaga, I've done some reading and it seems to offer quite a good monitoring solution for windows machines...whats your opinion? is WMI the way to go for windows servers? perhaps in combination with SNMP?
[17-Aug-2008 22:10:32] <zanaga> WMI is pretty much the only way. SNMP on windows doesn't really offer that much information about the server
[17-Aug-2008 22:11:03] <zanaga> it's a bit of a pain, but once you get the hang of it the basics are easy. I've yet to set up anything more complicated than the default monitoring stuff for windows
[17-Aug-2008 22:13:40] <rbw_> zanaga, ok
[17-Aug-2008 22:14:27] <rbw_> zanaga, thanks a lot for your information. much appreciated!
[17-Aug-2008 22:14:34] <zanaga> no problem
[17-Aug-2008 22:17:20] <rbw_> I'm off to bed...good night everyone!
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[18-Aug-2008 06:48:33] <pb1dft> Grrrrrrrrr.....
[18-Aug-2008 06:49:06] <pb1dft> zendisc exists with no error and no imported or new found item
[18-Aug-2008 06:49:09] <pb1dft> s
[18-Aug-2008 08:57:05] <nemo_> today is upgrade to 2.2.3 day !
[18-Aug-2008 09:14:37] <pb1dft> ?
[18-Aug-2008 09:14:41] <pb1dft> new version?.
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:01] <nemo_> no, i just developed the courage to tackle it
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:11] <nemo_> i hope mine doesnt break like everyone elses
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:22] <nemo_> just doing mega backups first, cus i am no totally dumb ;p
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:53] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:57] <pb1dft> be prepared lol
[18-Aug-2008 09:25:23] <pb1dft> i have nothing but shit
[18-Aug-2008 10:08:59] <nemo_> taking a while ...
[18-Aug-2008 10:09:09] <nemo_> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing AddMonitorColumn (2.2.0)
[18-Aug-2008 10:09:18] <nemo_> thats the last thing it said, about 20 minutes ago
[18-Aug-2008 10:27:33] <pann> getting warning like : threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded:
[18-Aug-2008 10:27:39] <pann> polling cisco router, any ideas
[18-Aug-2008 10:30:45] <nemo_> did you search the forums ?
[18-Aug-2008 10:36:34] <lahirup> how can i get an event when an interface of a router is down
[18-Aug-2008 10:36:46] <pann> yeh there was info about snmpd not see the interface correctly but nothing on cisco products
[18-Aug-2008 10:37:11] <pann> i fixed the snmpd issues not see a tun and tap interface on a unix machine fine
[18-Aug-2008 10:42:46] <lahirup> we have few cisco routers
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:07] <lahirup> but when an interface is operationally down it is not indicated in events log
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:29] <nemo_> no you are right
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:40] <lahirup> i can see the interface is down when i go in to the device but thats not enough
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:53] <nemo_> you prob need to check that oid's status
[18-Aug-2008 10:44:51] <lahirup> is there any template to download to solve this prob?
[18-Aug-2008 10:46:21] <nemo_> i dont know of any
[18-Aug-2008 11:30:59] <nemo_> still waiting for the upgrade to finish ( started at 11.45 cet )
[18-Aug-2008 11:43:37] <nemo_> ok its finished but seems to have crapped out at the end
[18-Aug-2008 11:48:41] <nemo_> so , i cant see the events in the console and the pull down menus seems broken , anyone else see the same ?
[18-Aug-2008 11:55:45] <nemo_> all solved by deleting FF cache
[18-Aug-2008 11:55:51] <nemo_> must be the cached JS
[18-Aug-2008 12:33:13] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[18-Aug-2008 13:39:26] <nemo_> who else has zenhub issues after upgrade to 2.2.3 ?
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:15] <pb1dft> almost everyone
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:18] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:25] <pb1dft> nemo_: doesn stay started?
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:31] <nemo_> exact
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:47] <nemo_> AttributeError: cycleInterval at the end of the traceback
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:55] <pb1dft> /usr/local/zenoss/zenconsole
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:07] <nemo_> i did google on it , reindexed the db and deleted zec / pickle files
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:14] <pb1dft> then do zenhub -f -d start
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:34] <nemo_> i dont have any /usr/local/zenoss
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:43] <pb1dft> reindexed the db << what's teh command for that
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:56] <pb1dft> your install is in /opt/zenoss?
[18-Aug-2008 13:43:34] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m6d17ffb6
[18-Aug-2008 13:43:42] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 13:43:55] <nemo_> yes but i dont have a zenconsole command anywhere under /opt/zenoss
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:03] <pb1dft> nemo_: su to zenoss
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:23] <nemo_> everything i do is with ( su - zenoss )
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:27] <nemo_> unless otherwise stated
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:31] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:43] <pb1dft> then do zenhub -f -d start
[18-Aug-2008 13:46:14] <nemo_> what does that do then ( undocumented ? )
[18-Aug-2008 13:46:28] <nemo_> sry i am one of those ppl who doesnt run it unless i know
[18-Aug-2008 13:47:56] <pb1dft> sec
[18-Aug-2008 13:48:37] <pb1dft> it will start the deamon and forks it into deamon mode
[18-Aug-2008 13:48:46] <pb1dft> that's how i start zopectl
[18-Aug-2008 13:48:54] <pb1dft> to have it kept running
[18-Aug-2008 13:49:50] <nemo_> i just the usage screen
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:28] <davetoo> wait a sec...
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m2c4c9ccb
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:38] * davetoo sighs
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:54] <davetoo> so there's a new problem with zenhub between 2.2.2 and 2.2.3?
[18-Aug-2008 13:51:18] <nemo_> some people reported it was fixed after they restarted mysql as root
[18-Aug-2008 13:51:23] <nemo_> didnt work for me tho
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:03] <davetoo> zopectl and zeoctl have different command-line syntax
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:21] <nemo_> start - start the program in daemon mode -- running in the background,
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:21] <nemo_> detached from the shell
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:24] <pb1dft> zenhub start
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:26] <davetoo> zenhub is zenoss-specific, not zope syntax
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:28] <nemo_> should be enough to just strat
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:31] <nemo_> start*
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:37] <pb1dft> inded
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:38] <nemo_> so back to square 1
[18-Aug-2008 13:53:02] * davetoo is going to bring up a vmware VM with 2.2.3 today
[18-Aug-2008 13:53:26] <nemo_> would be handy to know if its upgrade related or not , kool.
[18-Aug-2008 13:53:48] <davetoo> is there a trac ticket for this problem?
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:22] <pb1dft> i have same kinda shit with a clean stack install
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:27] <nemo_> i did email zenoss support but didnt get a ticket # back ( i am running enterprise )
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:37] <davetoo> what's the symptom?
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:58] <davetoo> My problem has been that (in 2.2.0) zenhub is so busy that I can't add any new devices
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:08] <davetoo> I have to stop zenperfsnmp and/or zencommand before adding devices
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:30] <nemo_> hmmm
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:34] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m68829e34
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:36] <nemo_> thats my issue
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:41] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:46] <nemo_> gonna try turning off other stuff and see tho !
[18-Aug-2008 13:56:17] <davetoo> My problem manifests as timeouts, not exceptions in zenhub
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:24] <nemo_> yeh sounds like a different issue
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:27] <pb1dft> zendisc just exists with no error and no adding/discovering anything
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:52] <nemo_> well zenhub is more vital than discovery at the moment
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:53] <nemo_> ;p
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:57] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:08] <nemo_> zenoss does seem to work
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:11] <pb1dft> does zenhub start doesn't keep it active?.
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:18] <nemo_> it doesnt start
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:29] <nemo_> zenhub doesnt
[18-Aug-2008 13:59:50] <nemo_> i think the zenmigrate didnt finish
[18-Aug-2008 14:00:20] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m4906c926
[18-Aug-2008 14:00:27] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 14:10:54] <pb1dft> i'm about to dislike the product more and more
[18-Aug-2008 14:11:40] <nemo_> well i knew upgrade would be painful
[18-Aug-2008 14:12:00] <pb1dft> i'm trying to do a clean install
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:24] <cciew1> just in case you guys find it the zenoss book on amazon is not worth it
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:36] <nemo_> i knew that already
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:37] <cciew1> has less info than the web docs
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:46] <nemo_> of course the best info is in the source ;p
[18-Aug-2008 14:25:15] <cciew1> the books actually a scam i think
[18-Aug-2008 14:25:26] <cciew1> be sure to read in a book store
[18-Aug-2008 14:27:15] <nemo_> shows you how easy it is to write one tho
[18-Aug-2008 14:30:08] <pb1dft> Loading default data into database (this may take a few minutes).
[18-Aug-2008 14:30:18] <pb1dft> ^^ What kinda minutes M$ minutes?.
[18-Aug-2008 14:32:33] <nemo_> took 2 hrs for my upgrade !
[18-Aug-2008 14:32:36] <nemo_> to fail ...
[18-Aug-2008 14:33:54] <pb1dft> you did an upgrade i'm doing clean install
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:27] <nemo_> if i run zenmigrate again i can see it failing
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:28] <nemo_> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing TwoTwoIndexing (2.2.0)
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:28] <nemo_> Recovering
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:40] <nemo_> with keyerrors
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:54] <nemo_> but deleting the zec files and restarting doesnt solve this issue
[18-Aug-2008 14:43:26] <jb> sounds like you might have a fubared database :/\
[18-Aug-2008 14:47:18] <nemo_> oh well i hope zenoss support answers soon
[18-Aug-2008 14:47:50] <nemo_> i backed everything up of course, but downgrading is for jessies
[18-Aug-2008 14:51:00] <jsm> is anyone aware of someone working on a postgresql ZenPack? I'm starting one today, and don't really want to duplicate any effort.
[18-Aug-2008 14:51:36] <nemo_> not heard of one
[18-Aug-2008 14:51:49] <nemo_> heard plenty of threats to do one, but not actually seen it done
[18-Aug-2008 14:52:15] <jsm> threats, hahah.... well we have an actual business case at work to get one done, so i'll make an attempt and release it GPL
[18-Aug-2008 14:52:46] <nemo_> good on ya
[18-Aug-2008 14:52:51] <jsm> using the mysql zenpack as a template of sorts
[18-Aug-2008 15:03:44] <pb1dft> Grrr still waiting for the minutes to pass
[18-Aug-2008 15:06:30] <pb1dft> restarting stack installer
[18-Aug-2008 15:08:44] folke is now known as afk_away
[18-Aug-2008 16:55:25] rmull is now known as rmull_
[18-Aug-2008 18:31:58] <jb> anybody here using a hardware enterprise appliance?
[18-Aug-2008 19:19:34] <IoNu|z> anyone know how to fix this WARNING:zen.ZenModeler:client host timeout
[18-Aug-2008 19:47:55] <rbw> yelo!
[18-Aug-2008 19:49:18] <jsm> no wonder why no one has written a zenoss plugin for postgres stats.. the stats interface is god awful.
[18-Aug-2008 19:54:20] <IoNu|z>
[18-Aug-2008 19:59:58] <jsm> i will conquer it
[18-Aug-2008 20:08:10] <IoNu|z> that`s the spirit!
[18-Aug-2008 21:45:12] * meteoroid cheers jsm !
[18-Aug-2008 22:21:23] <jsm> meteoroid, how do i know you?
[18-Aug-2008 22:21:36] <daMaestro> yesss!
[18-Aug-2008 22:21:50] <daMaestro> i owe someone a beer: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3416#comment:5
[18-Aug-2008 22:22:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3416 (manual creation of IPService impossible) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[18-Aug-2008 22:22:16] <meteoroid> jsm: remember a couple of hours ago when you said something about taking on the challenge of postgres stats? i was *totally* there..
[18-Aug-2008 22:22:29] <jsm> oh! you are doing it?
[18-Aug-2008 22:23:43] <kgoedtel> i wish i could solve this puzzle:
[18-Aug-2008 22:23:44] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7020
[18-Aug-2008 22:24:01] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Reports - collections not matching actual organizer (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Aug-2008 22:26:12] <jsm> well anyhow, i just started cracking it.. am pulling the first bits of stats now.. had to wrap my head around it... the cacti plugin for postgres has helped tons
[18-Aug-2008 22:26:18] <jsm> time to go home now
[18-Aug-2008 22:27:52] <kgoedtel> i really wonder where the collections are being pulled from when the report has more systems than zope/zeo... i deleted my zeo cache to humor myself.
[18-Aug-2008 23:35:32] <jatindergiri> hello, is there a way to monitor virtual host on apache?
[18-Aug-2008 23:35:49] <jatindergiri> for example, can i graph how many hits one virtual host is getting
[18-Aug-2008 23:58:29] <jatindergiri> is there a way to graph one oid ?
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[19-Aug-2008 00:05:13] <jatindergiri> anybody ?
[19-Aug-2008 00:05:18] <jatindergiri> i: is there a way to graph one oid ?
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[19-Aug-2008 08:58:41] <nemo_> ok downgraded back to 2.1.3
[19-Aug-2008 08:58:43] <nemo_> what a POS
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:38] <pann> whats going on?
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:42] <pann> 2.2.3 sucks?
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:55] <nemo_> basically caused me allot of work and a downgrade after
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:58] <nemo_> waste of my time
[19-Aug-2008 09:03:23] <nemo_> if zenoss had responded to my ticket i might have been happier
[19-Aug-2008 09:04:30] <pann> what about use the vmware image
[19-Aug-2008 09:05:20] <nemo_> why ?
[19-Aug-2008 09:05:38] <nemo_> i use enterprise version on a big machine
[19-Aug-2008 11:25:17] nemo_ is now known as nemo__
[19-Aug-2008 11:25:25] nemo__ is now known as nemonl
[19-Aug-2008 11:25:53] nemonl is now known as nemonl23
[19-Aug-2008 11:26:36] Cosmin is now known as IoNu|z
[19-Aug-2008 11:26:59] <nemonl23> anyone know a command line method of extracting Group properties from a zenoss device
[19-Aug-2008 11:27:26] <nemonl23> e.g. which groups it belongs to
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:13] <pb1dft> i know theres a dump command but don't know if it ourput groups too
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:32] <nemonl23> yeh i read the dumps
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:42] <nemonl23> there is a variable called groups
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:55] <nemonl23> but it returns: <ToManyRelationship at groups>
[19-Aug-2008 11:36:07] <nemonl23> i thought that might be an array, but now i am getting lost in python
[19-Aug-2008 11:36:50] <pb1dft> lol
[19-Aug-2008 11:42:42] <lacin_> hi, Is monitor menu removed in ZenOSS 2.2.3 ?
[19-Aug-2008 11:43:11] <lacin_> I installed 2.2.3 but there is no Monitor menu, even monitor option in devices Edit Tab.
[19-Aug-2008 11:50:18] <pb1dft> zProperties ?
[19-Aug-2008 11:52:37] <pb1dft> Any one has any clue how to get rid off ciscos unrouted VLAN threshold errors?
[19-Aug-2008 11:54:56] <nemonl23> nope, didnt tackle that yet
[19-Aug-2008 11:55:07] <nemonl23> you could just transform them away
[19-Aug-2008 11:55:08] <nemonl23> http://pastebin.com/m5e130619
[19-Aug-2008 11:55:15] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:22] <pb1dft> i found a way but labour intensive
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:53] <pb1dft> and it just turns off the threshold monitoring for that interface
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:53] <nemonl23> this is what my script looks like and the output:
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:54] <nemonl23> http://pastebin.com/m3095a4d3
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:01] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:13] <nemonl23> can anyone tell me how to get the REAL device group
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:32] <pb1dft> i'm no python guru
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:36] <nemonl23> me either
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:43] <nemonl23> bashing my head on the table here
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:52] <pb1dft> poor table
[19-Aug-2008 11:58:17] <nemonl23> dont worry its just a virtual table, theres no actual violence, yet
[19-Aug-2008 11:58:27] <pb1dft> yet....
[19-Aug-2008 11:58:48] <pb1dft> strange they didn't put stuff in mysql tables
[19-Aug-2008 12:00:11] <nemonl23> i wish they did
[19-Aug-2008 12:00:36] <nemonl23> i cant seem to get my head round python , SQL would be a dream right now
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:05] <pb1dft> indeed and i guess they wouldn't have this many shit either
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:21] <pb1dft> if they did more people would be able to write solutions
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:33] <nemonl23> its a python elitist thing i am sure
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:49] <nemonl23> where are these people when you want some help tho
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:57] <nemonl23> i guess they sleep in the day ...
[19-Aug-2008 12:02:11] <pb1dft> lol and night then
[19-Aug-2008 12:02:36] <pb1dft> i'm here almost 24x7 atleast in the channel and i don't see much activity
[19-Aug-2008 12:06:57] <IoNu|z> i can help you out with those unrouted vlans
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:36] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: shoot...
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:39] <IoNu|z> only if you are still seeking for help
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:40] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:47] <IoNu|z> so what`s the problem?
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:58] <IoNu|z> you`re getting alarms that the threshould has been reached?
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:26] <pb1dft> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:38] <IoNu|z> when you gop the actual vlan
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:40] <pb1dft> it doesn't detect the correct speed on the unrouted vlans
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:51] <IoNu|z> the speed says Unknown?
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:57] <pb1dft> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:12] <pb1dft> it actually is 756 Gb/s
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:14] <pb1dft>
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:23] <IoNu|z> then you don`t have the speed set up for the vlan
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:35] <pb1dft> ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:52] <IoNu|z> are you going to be online in about an hour?
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:58] <IoNu|z> i`m getting ready fro work...
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:06] <pb1dft> i'm here
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:12] <IoNu|z> ok cool
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:18] <IoNu|z> ttyl
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:52] <pb1dft> okidoki
[19-Aug-2008 12:13:31] <nemonl23> IoNu|z, can you explain ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:13:40] <nemonl23> you dont have a speed setup ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:23] <IoNu|z> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:29] <IoNu|z> you don`t have a limit for the vlan
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:33] <IoNu|z> the mib reads it 0
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:44] <IoNu|z> so of course the threshould has been reached
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:58] <pb1dft> max is the max of the backplane in the switch
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:08] <nemonl23> is that a zproerty
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:11] <nemonl23> ?\
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:14] <IoNu|z> neah
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:17] <nemonl23> zProperty
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:18] <IoNu|z> it`s on the switch
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:40] <nemonl23> ok , so i need to ask the network dudes to add something to their IOS templates ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:52] <IoNu|z> on the switch
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:58] <IoNu|z> they need to put a limit on the interface
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:58] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:05] <nemonl23> ah ok.
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:06] <IoNu|z> so that zenoss would know where the limit is
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:10] <pb1dft> the ip interface off the vlan is fine
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:17] <IoNu|z> yes
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:21] <pb1dft> it's the nonrouted one
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:26] <IoNu|z> if you look at it you will se that it has a limit
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:32] <nemonl23> i think i will just transform them to the bin then
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:55] <nemonl23> no one will want to limit them , i just feel it
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:10] <IoNu|z> yep
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:12] <IoNu|z> same here
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:23] <IoNu|z> it`s unrouted so noane cares
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:26] <nemonl23> work that doesnt deliver profit and stuff
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:45] <IoNu|z>))))))0
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:45] <IoNu|z> yep
[19-Aug-2008 12:18:23] <pb1dft> ever thought how you anter speed settings on the vlan itself?.
[19-Aug-2008 12:22:33] <IoNu|z> do an snmp walk for that mib and see by yourself
[19-Aug-2008 12:22:53] <pb1dft> i know what i see.
[19-Aug-2008 12:23:00] <pb1dft> i know the result.
[19-Aug-2008 12:23:21] <pb1dft> you can't set speed on a vitual l2 interface
[19-Aug-2008 13:23:20] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[19-Aug-2008 13:28:49] <pb1dft> ..
[19-Aug-2008 13:45:24] * nemonl23 yawns
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:23] <pb1dft>
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:33] <pb1dft> still wating on IoNu|z
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:35] <pb1dft>
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:45] <pb1dft> going to have a quick smoke bbl
[19-Aug-2008 14:00:51] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 14:00:52] <IoNu|z> i`m back
[19-Aug-2008 14:00:53] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 14:22:05] <jsm> well i have the core of the postgresql monitoring plugin complete
[19-Aug-2008 14:23:52] <IoNu|z> congrats
[19-Aug-2008 14:24:10] <jsm> now have to figure out how to get it into the webui
[19-Aug-2008 14:25:52] <jsm> the other issue i'm trying to figure out is how to have it monitor more than one database
[19-Aug-2008 14:26:10] <jsm> postgresql stats are database specific
[19-Aug-2008 14:26:35] <jsm> i could have it look at multiple databases, the user would just give a comma seperated list
[19-Aug-2008 14:26:55] <jsm> and then i'd have to append databasename_somedatabase stat to the values
[19-Aug-2008 14:27:14] <jsm> rather --- databasename_somedatabasestat
[19-Aug-2008 14:27:27] <jsm> then you could graph multiple dbs
[19-Aug-2008 14:31:44] <IoNu|z> i`d love to help... but i`m not that good with sql
[19-Aug-2008 14:31:58] <pb1dft> back
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:13] <IoNu|z> pb1dft did you resolve your issue?
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:29] <pb1dft> not yet
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:33] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:39] <IoNu|z> so were we left off?
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:45] <pb1dft> you can't set speeds on a layer 2 vlan
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:53] <IoNu|z> ...
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:58] <IoNu|z> that`s the problem
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:08] <IoNu|z> what you could do
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:14] <IoNu|z> is make a template that would not alert
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:31] <IoNu|z> remove the threshould for the unrouted vlans
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:39] <pb1dft> problem is it's labour intensive
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:58] <pb1dft> i have over 32 vlans per core switch
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:05] <pb1dft> and have over 10 core switches
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:14] <IoNu|z> ok.. let`s see
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:37] <IoNu|z> is your unrouted vlans a different kind of type?
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:37] <pb1dft> i did one manually but iit took me three hours to trun the threshold off
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:06] <pb1dft> sec checking
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:26] <pb1dft> type is propVirtual
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:32] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:38] <IoNu|z> and the vlans that are workin?
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:51] <pb1dft> yeah the layer 3 interface are fine
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:03] <IoNu|z> do you have any other interfaces named propVirtual?
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:11] <pb1dft> lemmi check the type on those
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:44] <pb1dft> yes my port channels have propvirtual as type to
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:49] <pb1dft> those are fine too
[19-Aug-2008 14:39:04] <pb1dft> speeds on those get detected fine
[19-Aug-2008 14:39:07] <IoNu|z> then... you`re kinda out of options
[19-Aug-2008 14:39:34] <IoNu|z> or if you can get away without getting alarms for those eather?
[19-Aug-2008 14:40:02] <pb1dft> no those are rather important
[19-Aug-2008 14:40:14] <pb1dft> i have one match that makes em unique
[19-Aug-2008 14:40:59] <pb1dft> the type is propVirtual and the names always start with "unrouted VLAN"
[19-Aug-2008 14:41:15] <IoNu|z> do you need to monitor those vlans?
[19-Aug-2008 14:41:20] <IoNu|z> you could just delete them out
[19-Aug-2008 14:42:08] <pb1dft> i need the graphs from em but not the thresholds
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:12] <IoNu|z> try to set up on the Zproprities of teh device
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:18] <IoNu|z> zInterfaceMapIgnoreTypes
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:22] * nemonl23 wakes up
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:32] <nemonl23> so it can be configed in zenoss , not the device ?
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:34] <IoNu|z> there are a few options to ignore some of the alarms
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:55] <nemonl23> ah .. thats just zSNMPignore isnt it ?
[19-Aug-2008 14:47:54] <IoNu|z> or that
[19-Aug-2008 14:48:06] <IoNu|z> you could set snmp to ignore the checks on the interfaces
[19-Aug-2008 14:48:08] <pb1dft> zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[19-Aug-2008 14:49:09] <pb1dft> to match "unrouted VLAN 671" i type ^unrouted
[19-Aug-2008 14:49:22] <pb1dft> correct?.
[19-Aug-2008 14:50:45] <IoNu|z> somethign like that
[19-Aug-2008 14:51:10] <IoNu|z> i don`t have an example that works because i am not using that for any devices right now
[19-Aug-2008 14:51:51] <IoNu|z> i just deleted my vlan check since.... we only need the ethernet utiliziation
[19-Aug-2008 14:52:06] <jsm> i'm a little annoyed that it's too late for my plugin to get entered in the contest zenoss is sponsoring
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:09] <pb1dft> lol @ jsm
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:20] <Nate187> is it possible to use a datasource and datapoint as a threshold max value?
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:30] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: thenks thats it
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:34] <jsm> pb1dft, i was looking forward to winning that laptop
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:35] <nemonl23> better set it on the class than individual devices no ?
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:55] <jsm> now i have to release it under the kindness of my own heart
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:56] <jsm> lame
[19-Aug-2008 14:55:22] <nemonl23> zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[19-Aug-2008 14:55:22] <nemonl23> zInterfaceMapIgnoreTypes
[19-Aug-2008 14:56:39] <pb1dft> nemonl23: i set it on the specific devices
[19-Aug-2008 14:56:53] <nemonl23> i set it on the class for switches
[19-Aug-2008 14:57:05] <pb1dft> but i can aswell do it on the class cos the are seperated from all other switches
[19-Aug-2008 14:57:41] <IoNu|z> jsm you have my respect for that plugin
[19-Aug-2008 14:57:41] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 14:59:14] <jsm> IoNu|z, just wait till it's done before you give me the respect
[19-Aug-2008 15:02:39] <IoNu|z> anyone who at least tries to make something work instead of just expecting someone else to do it deserves respect
[19-Aug-2008 15:03:47] <jsm> it's the linux spirit... plus luckily zenoss is python, which is my strongest language
[19-Aug-2008 15:04:31] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: do you know iff zenoss does autodiscovery when not triggered
[19-Aug-2008 15:04:50] <IoNu|z> for devices?
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:20] <pb1dft> Inyes
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:26] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: yes
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:27] <IoNu|z> only if you make it to
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:34] <pb1dft> how do i do that
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:45] <IoNu|z> you go by network
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:50] <IoNu|z> select the network
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:56] <pb1dft> i excluded all networks from autodiscovery except the ones i want to autodiscover
[19-Aug-2008 15:06:37] <IoNu|z> so you do not have any networks under the networks tab?
[19-Aug-2008 15:06:50] <pb1dft> you about 800 off them
[19-Aug-2008 15:06:56] <pb1dft> * yes
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:03] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:12] <IoNu|z> select the networks that you wan`t to discover
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:47] <pb1dft> that's a manually triggered discovery
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:57] <IoNu|z> and select discover from the menu
[19-Aug-2008 15:08:14] <pb1dft> with auto i ment discover once every x hours/days
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:02] <IoNu|z> oh
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:03] <IoNu|z> lol
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:04] <IoNu|z>)
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:09] <IoNu|z> i don`t know about that
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:24] <pb1dft> hmm
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:48] <pb1dft> this is going to give me a shitload off work again
[19-Aug-2008 15:12:13] <pb1dft> i'll put the following command in a cronjob then
[19-Aug-2008 15:12:45] <pb1dft> zendisc run --net 10.16.128.0/24 10.17.x.x etc
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:15] <pb1dft> sorry make that
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:26] <pb1dft> zendisc run --net 10.16.128.0/24 --net 10.17.x.x/16 etc
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:42] <IoNu|z> yep
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:46] <IoNu|z> that should work out
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:53] <IoNu|z> make sure you run it as the znoss user
[19-Aug-2008 15:16:00] <pb1dft> tha's no problem
[19-Aug-2008 15:18:25] <pb1dft> grr any way to stripoff a part domain name?.
[19-Aug-2008 15:24:10] <jsm> anyone here develop a zenpack? i had a question about "ZenPack Provides"
[19-Aug-2008 15:26:06] <pb1dft> nope not me
[19-Aug-2008 15:26:16] <pb1dft> i need a good book on python and zenoss
[19-Aug-2008 15:28:47] <IoNu|z> jsm what`s your question about zenpack?
[19-Aug-2008 15:29:22] <jsm> are the "ZenPack Provides" dynamically created?
[19-Aug-2008 15:29:51] <nemonl23> there is an example zenpack isnt there, for study purposes
[19-Aug-2008 15:29:56] <nemonl23> so i read last night anyway
[19-Aug-2008 15:30:28] <nemonl23> 10. Is there an example ZenPack I can use as a guide?
[19-Aug-2008 15:30:28] <nemonl23> HelloWorldZenPack is an example ZenPack and may be used as a starting point for creating your own ZenPacks. The code and comments in its files provide a lot of detail as to the workings of the install process and other aspects of ZenPacks. HelloWorldZenPack and other Zenoss Core ZenPacks are available for download here.
[19-Aug-2008 15:35:44] <jsm> i used the mysql zenpack as a template
[19-Aug-2008 15:35:50] <jsm> it was more relevant
[19-Aug-2008 15:36:04] <jsm> but i will check that as well, thanks.
[19-Aug-2008 15:36:51] <Nate187> I can't find anything about using a datapoint as a threshold value. anyone have ideas about it?
[19-Aug-2008 15:44:33] * pb1dft is afk
[19-Aug-2008 15:46:02] <jsm> i have a feeling it's going to suck to try and debug my zenpack
[19-Aug-2008 15:51:25] <IoNu|z> Nate187 what are yous earching for ... again?
[19-Aug-2008 15:55:57] <jsm> if anyone wants to help me crush this bug.. when trying to add values to my postgres datasource it throws this error: http://pastebin.com/m35cd9a6b... keep in mind i'm creating my own ZenPack for postgres.
[19-Aug-2008 15:57:12] <Nate187> I'm trying to get a threshold that uses a datapoint for the max value
[19-Aug-2008 15:58:14] <Nate187> for example, i want to monitor call volume stas with datapoints low, high, and configured
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:05] <Nate187> so as the configured datapoint changes, the threshold changes with it
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:36] <IoNu|z> hmm..
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:47] <Nate187> instead of having to manually edit every threshold every time there's an augment to the number of configured trunks
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:53] <Nate187> make sense?
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:54] <IoNu|z> so you wan`t something different from what it`s currently set uop for the ethernet interfaces?
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:02] <IoNu|z> oh
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:09] <IoNu|z> so you wan`t an dynamic threshould?
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:13] <Nate187> exactly
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:24] <IoNu|z> oh
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:28] <IoNu|z> not sure about that
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:57] <IoNu|z> because...
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:06] <Nate187> i was looking to use a datapoint as the max value on the threshold, but i didn't find anything useful about doing that
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:08] <IoNu|z> i think the maximum it`s set up when the devices are modeled
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:22] <IoNu|z> and every 6 horus or something
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:43] <IoNu|z> so if the maximum on the specific interface changes than the threshold should change also
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:57] <Nate187> right
[19-Aug-2008 16:02:11] <Nate187> and 6 hours to update isn't a problem
[19-Aug-2008 16:02:49] <IoNu|z> so where is the problem?
[19-Aug-2008 16:02:53] <IoNu|z> what doesn`t happen?
[19-Aug-2008 16:03:25] <Nate187> in the threshold, what should i put for the max value?
[19-Aug-2008 16:03:41] <Nate187> i don't want to statically say 100
[19-Aug-2008 16:03:57] <Nate187> i want it so pull the rrd value for a datapoint
[19-Aug-2008 16:11:06] <IoNu|z> like a percent?
[19-Aug-2008 16:11:34] <IoNu|z> take a look at for example the template for Cisco devices
[19-Aug-2008 16:11:48] <IoNu|z> and i would put somethign about the same
[19-Aug-2008 16:12:11] <IoNu|z> it sends an alarm if the interface is over 75% utilization
[19-Aug-2008 16:15:21] <jiffe99> so if I want to monitor a windows service, I guess looking through the manual and the examples that are currently setup I'm not so sure how to do that
[19-Aug-2008 16:18:30] <IoNu|z> do you have the wmi package installed on the client?
[19-Aug-2008 16:19:04] <Nate187> i think the cisco one is something like here.speed/8 * .75, so it references the here.speed
[19-Aug-2008 16:19:05] <jiffe99> I have only setup snmp on the machine
[19-Aug-2008 16:19:14] <Nate187> looks like i'll write another collector plugin
[19-Aug-2008 16:22:07] <IoNu|z> what windows ?
[19-Aug-2008 16:23:03] <jiffe99> 2003
[19-Aug-2008 16:23:38] <jiffe99> I want to monitor the backup exec process we have running on that
[19-Aug-2008 16:25:57] <jiffe99> I am not sure what to use for the service keys
[19-Aug-2008 16:26:10] <IoNu|z> search fro wmi in add remove programs
[19-Aug-2008 16:26:13] <IoNu|z> and install it
[19-Aug-2008 16:27:19] <jiffe99> what does wmi do?
[19-Aug-2008 16:30:38] <jiffe99> wmi snmp provider?
[19-Aug-2008 16:31:43] <IoNu|z> yes
[19-Aug-2008 16:31:53] <IoNu|z> you need that to monitor processes and stuff
[19-Aug-2008 16:33:39] <jiffe99> alright that is added
[19-Aug-2008 16:36:18] <jiffe99> I am still not sure what to use for the service keys
[19-Aug-2008 16:38:30] <jiffe99> under the OS tab of the windows device, clicking on add winservice gives me no options either
[19-Aug-2008 16:38:41] <jiffe99> I've enabled a couple services that are running on that machine
[19-Aug-2008 16:45:40] <jiffe99> the end of 16.5 says 'If you do not see the service you would like to monitor, click on the WinServices table menu. Select the .Add WinService.... menu item.'
[19-Aug-2008 16:45:43] <jiffe99> and ends with tht
[19-Aug-2008 16:49:09] <IoNu|z> idk what to say... i don`t monitor any windows devices yet
[19-Aug-2008 17:01:12] <jsm> arghhhh... are there no devs here? I'm on the verge of getting my Postgresql ZenPack working and need a bit of help
[19-Aug-2008 17:20:15] <jiffe99> I see the Device_WMI_SNMP_v2 zenpack, but that appears to be performance monitoring, nothing service specific
[19-Aug-2008 17:24:55] <jiffe99> gravy, I tried doing it by adding a process and I get a zenoss error page
[19-Aug-2008 17:29:18] <daMaestro> hmm.. can you do multiple monitors for a given host?
[19-Aug-2008 17:29:32] <daMaestro> aka.. i need to query net-snmp and squid (two different ports)
[19-Aug-2008 17:30:21] <daMaestro> ahhhh i need to add a proxy in the net-snmp
[19-Aug-2008 17:30:22] <daMaestro> cool
[19-Aug-2008 18:16:25] <jeld> hello all
[19-Aug-2008 18:17:09] <jeld> I am trying to monitor some TCP services. I have defined the services, but they are not recognized by the devices. What is the proper way to do this?
[19-Aug-2008 18:20:08] <rbw_> hello
[19-Aug-2008 18:20:50] <kso512> hi
[19-Aug-2008 18:22:14] <npmccallum_> jeld: where did you define the services?
[19-Aug-2008 18:23:01] <jeld> under services
[19-Aug-2008 18:23:35] <jeld> I am applying the fix from ticket 3416 to see if it will allow me to add IP services manually
[19-Aug-2008 18:25:29] <jeld> well, this seemed to work, now I can manually add IP services to devices. I do not understand, though why it would detect some IP services automatically, but not others
[19-Aug-2008 18:26:49] <jeld> also, what are Service Keys?
[19-Aug-2008 18:27:13] <jeld> I am considering deleting all the predefined services and adding only the ones I want to monitor
[19-Aug-2008 18:27:39] <jeld> is that a wise thing to do?
[19-Aug-2008 18:28:06] <npmccallum_> just backup before you do
[19-Aug-2008 18:29:07] <jeld> this is not yet a production installation, so I can just reinstall if things go fubar
[19-Aug-2008 18:29:59] <npmccallum_> I believe it only detects ports which are pre-defiend
[19-Aug-2008 18:36:29] <rbw_> I'm trying to create a printer toner check by adding the correct OID in the device's template, the test completes successfully and output looks good but the toner status doesn't appear anywhere...not even in the event logs. what am I doing wrong?
[19-Aug-2008 18:36:47] <rbw_> that wasn't me
[19-Aug-2008 18:37:14] rbw_ is now known as rbw
[19-Aug-2008 18:39:49] <npmccallum_> rbw: Did you create a graph to go with it?
[19-Aug-2008 18:40:22] <rbw> npmccallum_, nope.
[19-Aug-2008 18:40:41] <npmccallum_> you'll need to create a graph in order to see the data point
[19-Aug-2008 18:41:54] <rbw> npmccallum_, uhm...why is that? I just an email notice when the toner cartrige is about to run out.
[19-Aug-2008 18:42:01] <rbw> i just want an email
[19-Aug-2008 18:42:45] <npmccallum_> oh, ok
[19-Aug-2008 18:42:53] <npmccallum_> then you need to create a threshold
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:03] <npmccallum_> you don't *need* to create a graph
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:08] <rbw> npmccallum_, I see..
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:10] <npmccallum_> but having the graph is handy
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:18] <npmccallum_> if you wanted to look at historical trends
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:28] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:58] <rbw> npmccallum_, well, I want graphs too...but getting the actual alarm is kind of priority #1
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:03] <rbw> npmccallum_, thanks man.
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:23] <npmccallum_> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:31] <awharrier> can anyone tell me why uptime, disk space free and disk space used are only collected for my servers when i manually run zenperfsmnp a few times?
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:45] <npmccallum_> you define the data source, then any thresholds you want, then you createa graph w/ data points
[19-Aug-2008 18:45:22] <npmccallum_> awharrier: I'm not sure what you are asking...
[19-Aug-2008 18:47:06] <awharrier> well when i have added a device then snmp collects infomation such as OS, software installed, hardware etc but never information on the amount of free space on disks or the system uptime
[19-Aug-2008 18:47:59] <awharrier> some servers i have had added to zenoss for months and it still won't get this info by itself the only way i can do it is to run zenperfsmnp from the zenoss server, even then the information is only held for a few days then its gone again
[19-Aug-2008 18:48:03] <rbw> npmccallum_, still doesn't work.
[19-Aug-2008 18:48:44] <npmccallum_> rbw: what doesn't work?
[19-Aug-2008 18:49:47] <npmccallum_> awharrier: it sounds like zenmodeler is working, but not zenperfsnmp
[19-Aug-2008 18:50:06] <rbw> npmccallum_, how are data sources and thresholds associated anyway? I just added a threshold but I there's no where to chose which data source to create the threshold of...I don't get it.
[19-Aug-2008 18:50:53] <awharrier> also i have just had a look at a random server it has just raised an event but the last collection date is
[19-Aug-2008 18:50:53] <awharrier> 2008/07/30 20:32:29.000
[19-Aug-2008 18:51:19] <awharrier> is my collector schedule broken?
[19-Aug-2008 18:51:40] <jiffe99> anyone familiar with monitoring windows services?
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:08] <npmccallum_> awharrier: is zenperfsnmp running? check Services -> Daemons
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:50] <npmccallum_> rbw: what template have you put this in?
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:56] <awharrier> yes all services are running
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:57] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: what do you need?
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:20] <npmccallum_> awharrier: service zenoss stop ; find /opt/zenoss/ -name *.zec -exec rm -f '{}' \; ; service zenoss start
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:28] <rbw> npmccallum_, in the default template which comes with the device, I've also tried creating a new template.
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:42] <npmccallum_> what is the name of the template/
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:43] <npmccallum_> ?
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:55] <rbw> npmccallum_, 'test'
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:03] <rbw> npmccallum_, does that really matter?
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:08] <npmccallum_> yes, significantly
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:18] <rbw> npmccallum_, oh?
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:35] <npmccallum_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch12s03.html
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:51] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:56] <npmccallum_> http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/07/03/tip-of-the-month-how-zenoss-chooses-templates/
[19-Aug-2008 18:56:11] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Tip of the Month: How Zenoss Chooses Templates | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[19-Aug-2008 18:56:30] <rbw> npmccallum_, alright...thanks!
[19-Aug-2008 18:56:52] <npmccallum_> rbw: basically, I think you need to add the data source, threshold and graph to the Device template
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:03] <jiffe99> I am trying to monitor a service on a windows 2003 machine but I can't seem to figure out how to do it
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:04] <awharrier> npmccallum: my directory structure is a bit different to what you specified (im running debian), but i have now deleted all *.zec files and started the zenoss daemons
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:21] <rbw> npmccallum_, that doesn't make any sense. :-)
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:30] <rbw> npmccallum_, but I'll give it a try.
[19-Aug-2008 18:59:35] <npmccallum_> It really actually does make sense
[19-Aug-2008 18:59:55] <npmccallum_> but you have to know a little about programming to know why
[19-Aug-2008 19:00:12] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: are you using WMI?
[19-Aug-2008 19:01:04] <rbw> npmccallum_, well, now it makes sense. after reading those documents
[19-Aug-2008 19:01:37] <awharrier> i have manually modelled a device but it still shows the same information
[19-Aug-2008 19:02:04] <npmccallum_> awharrier: did you run the command I posted?
[19-Aug-2008 19:02:18] <awharrier> i version of it, yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:03:31] <npmccallum_> awharrier: do you understand the difference between modeling and performance monitoring?
[19-Aug-2008 19:04:20] <awharrier> to be honest probably not, i guess the disk usage falls into the latter
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:07] <jiffe99> I have wmi and snmp installed
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:22] <npmccallum_> awharrier: actually, it requires both
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:27] <awharrier> another strange thing is that i get warnings when the free disk space falls below a threshold i have set which i guess would depend on the performance monitoring side
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:47] <npmccallum_> modeling creates FileSystem objects within the Device
[19-Aug-2008 19:07:02] <npmccallum_> then the FileSystem template applies to all the FileSystem objects
[19-Aug-2008 19:07:21] <npmccallum_> step #1 is modeling, step #2 is performance monitoring
[19-Aug-2008 19:07:51] <npmccallum_> if you have all of your filesystems listed, including "total size", than modeling is working correctly
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:18] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: I actually don't know what works on windows in Zenoss Core
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:30] <awharrier> yes i get volume labels and total bytes
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:38] <npmccallum_> awharrier: ok, then modeling is working
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:54] <npmccallum_> I suspect the error is found in the FileSystem template
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:12] <npmccallum_> or there is something causing zenperfsnmp not to run
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:15] <jiffe99> as opposed to enterprise?
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:27] <npmccallum_> you said you get data when you run zenperfsnmp manually?
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:48] <awharrier> yes, although it usually takes a few attempts
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:53] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: yes. I know the enterprise WMI plugin collects service data, I'm not sure about Core
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:53] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: sorry!
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:59] <npmccallum_> awharrier: do you get any errors?
[19-Aug-2008 19:10:16] <awharrier> i will do one and log it
[19-Aug-2008 19:10:57] <jiffe99> ok
[19-Aug-2008 19:16:00] <awharrier> here is the output of zenperfsnmp -v 10 -d fs2k-mvm, http://pastebin.com/m3595c20d
[19-Aug-2008 19:16:13] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:20:06] <npmccallum_> strange
[19-Aug-2008 19:20:27] <awharrier> sorry that was a bad example, 2 mins
[19-Aug-2008 19:22:05] <Firestar> awharrier, you have SNMP informant installed on that windows box?
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:01] <jiffe99> it might be firewalled off, any idea what ports might need to be open?
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:47] <awharrier> this is a better example, http://pastebin.com/maec69ee
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:54] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:55] <awharrier> Firestar: yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:25:27] <awharrier> that last run of "zenperfsmp run -v 10 -d fs3k-cmbcdc2" has collected the information i wanted for that server but it will be gone again in a few days
[19-Aug-2008 19:25:37] <npmccallum_> define "gone"
[19-Aug-2008 19:26:38] <awharrier> used bytes and free bytes of all disks and system uptime will show as "unknown"
[19-Aug-2008 19:26:59] <npmccallum_> ok
[19-Aug-2008 19:27:11] <npmccallum_> what happens if you click on the filesystem link?
[19-Aug-2008 19:27:18] <npmccallum_> you should have some kind of graph
[19-Aug-2008 19:28:05] <awharrier> there is a graph but no much on it
[19-Aug-2008 19:28:55] <awharrier> i have one vertical line which indicates 18%
[19-Aug-2008 19:29:32] <npmccallum_> and I assume your filesystem is 18% full?
[19-Aug-2008 19:29:53] <awharrier> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:30:16] <awharrier> that is for the server i have just ran zenperfsnmp against, the others show nothing
[19-Aug-2008 19:30:55] <jiffe99> yeah, I'm seeing ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT on zenwin
[19-Aug-2008 19:32:51] <npmccallum_> awharrier: what version is this?
[19-Aug-2008 19:33:26] <awharrier> good question, how can i find out?
[19-Aug-2008 19:33:43] <npmccallum_> Settings -> Versions
[19-Aug-2008 19:34:05] <awharrier> 2.2.3
[19-Aug-2008 19:35:52] <npmccallum_> What does it say under Collectors?
[19-Aug-2008 19:37:38] <awharrier> name:localhost, created: 2008/06/06 15:41:28, Last Mod: 2008/07/28 09:22:48
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:03] <awharrier> do you want the collector config aswell?
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:23] <npmccallum_> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:42] <awharrier> http://pastebin.com/m12a1b0ea
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:39:15] <npmccallum_> I don't see anything out of the ordinary
[19-Aug-2008 19:39:28] <npmccallum_> anything strange in /opt/zenoss/log?
[19-Aug-2008 19:41:26] <awharrier> in zenperfsnmp.log there is just stuff along the lines of:
[19-Aug-2008 19:41:26] <awharrier> 2008-07-28 15:35:11 INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: total=0 good=0 bad=0 time=0.000017
[19-Aug-2008 19:41:26] <awharrier> 2008-07-28 15:35:11 INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: sent 0 OID requests
[19-Aug-2008 19:44:30] <jiffe99> so zenoss isn't able to get service information via snmp?
[19-Aug-2008 19:44:46] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: it is
[19-Aug-2008 19:45:08] <jiffe99> I have snmp setup on the 2003 machine
[19-Aug-2008 19:45:25] <jiffe99> it is able to get snmp data because the walk returns
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:11] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: there are several factors though
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:11] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: does Windows expose this information via snmp or just WMI?
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:11] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: Does Zenoss core collect this information?
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:44] <jiffe99> yeah, I don't know the answer to either of those
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:03] <npmccallum_> does the walk contain service information?
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:20] <npmccallum_> Zenoss Enterprise *does* collect service information for Windows
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:35] <npmccallum_> I don't know if it is SNMP or WMI-only
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:44] <jiffe99> I think I'm only getting a partial, it times out after 15 seconds
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <npmccallum_> what times out? the walk?
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:11] <jiffe99> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:35] <awharrier> im pretty sure its WMI only, thats one thing i do have working correctly
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:48] <jiffe99> core?
[19-Aug-2008 19:49:01] <awharrier> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:49:23] <jiffe99> there is a zenwin timeout event, maybe I just need to find out what port that needs
[19-Aug-2008 19:49:47] <awharrier> am i right in assuming "SNMP Performance Cycle Interval (secs)" relates to zenpersnmp ?
[19-Aug-2008 19:50:19] <npmccallum_> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:50:39] <npmccallum_> It should be 300 by default
[19-Aug-2008 19:51:53] <awharrier> ok
[19-Aug-2008 19:52:15] <awharrier> i have just recreated zenperfsnmp.log and now its saying "2008-08-19 20:48:09 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Error loading config for devices"
[19-Aug-2008 19:52:38] <awharrier> and it lists nearly all devices, though it does not specify why it cannyy load the config
[19-Aug-2008 19:54:59] <jiffe99> it doesn't look like anything is listening on port 300 on the 2003 server according to netstat
[19-Aug-2008 19:58:35] <npmccallum_> awharrier: I think you have actually run into a bug on 2.2.3
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:19] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-test-wmi-connectivity/
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:34] <__adytum-bot__> Title: How To Test WMI Connectivity - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:38] <awharrier> i was thinking about rebuilding anyway i may just file a bug and install a previous version
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:49] <npmccallum_> awharrier: was this a clean install or an upgrade?
[19-Aug-2008 20:00:16] <jiffe99> well that works from the server itself
[19-Aug-2008 20:00:51] <npmccallum_> can you try it from another server?
[19-Aug-2008 20:01:01] <jiffe99> all the other servers are linux/freebs
[19-Aug-2008 20:01:03] <jiffe99> freebsd
[19-Aug-2008 20:01:40] <npmccallum_> you don't have any windows workstations around?
[19-Aug-2008 20:03:48] <jiffe99> good call
[19-Aug-2008 20:04:55] <npmccallum_> awharrier: also, do you have the NetApp ZenPack installed?
[19-Aug-2008 20:21:00] <awharrier> it was a clean install, i dont have any zenpacks installed
[19-Aug-2008 20:27:45] <jsm> wish i could find the hello world zenpack
[19-Aug-2008 20:28:14] <rbw> is it possible to add new components?
[19-Aug-2008 20:30:49] <rbw> nevermind, it got added automagically. ;-)
[19-Aug-2008 20:33:01] <jiffe99> yeah, I can connect from the internal network but not externally
[19-Aug-2008 20:33:08] <jiffe99> so it is probably the firewall
[19-Aug-2008 20:37:21] <jiffe99> looks like port 135
[19-Aug-2008 20:37:45] <npmccallum_> awharrier: I'd try a clean install again and see if that fixes things
[19-Aug-2008 20:45:25] <awharrier> will do, thanks for your help with this
[19-Aug-2008 21:25:09] <jsm> yay, postgresql zenpack is working.. defining the graphs now..
[19-Aug-2008 21:28:02] <jb> nice
[19-Aug-2008 21:35:27] <jiffe99> well tcp135 doesn't seem to be working
[19-Aug-2008 21:37:29] <jsm> hmmm... it appears performance data isn't being collected for my zenpack... how do I debug this?
[19-Aug-2008 21:38:03] <jb> run "zenperfsnmp run -v10 -d hostname"
[19-Aug-2008 21:38:08] <jb> and see if there are any errors
[19-Aug-2008 21:51:09] <jsm> jb, no errors... before there was an empty graph.. now i'm at least getting "nan" for my values
[19-Aug-2008 21:51:38] <jsm> i'd like to see the actual command being run and it's returned data
[19-Aug-2008 22:05:36] <kgoedtel> jsm: did you verify that your data source has datapoint(s)?
[19-Aug-2008 22:06:26] <jsm> kgoedtel, yeah, it sure does -- the available datapoints all popped up automatically
[19-Aug-2008 22:07:26] <kgoedtel> i'm trying to think of things i ran into when i made some of my own zenpacks
[19-Aug-2008 22:10:59] <jsm> kgoedtel, when i run the command i wrote, it returns the data fine: STATUS OK| numbackends=19
[19-Aug-2008 22:11:24] <jsm> but it's hard to track what it's doing in the belly of the zenoss beast
[19-Aug-2008 22:14:46] <kgoedtel> that's the truth
[19-Aug-2008 22:23:02] <daMaestro> how do we insert a \n in a "Send String" for a IPService monitor?
[19-Aug-2008 22:26:02] <kgoedtel> what the heck... zentestcommand no longer works for non snmp data sources...
[19-Aug-2008 23:16:13] <pb1dft> back..
[19-Aug-2008 23:21:31] <daMaestro> ok, lame.
[19-Aug-2008 23:21:53] <daMaestro> it seems that zenoss *still* removes manually added ip services when it re-models a device
[19-Aug-2008 23:28:13] <kso512> daMaestro: even if they're Locked?! lame
[19-Aug-2008 23:28:23] <daMaestro> yes
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[20-Aug-2008 00:11:00] <daMaestro> so, how much RAM do you guys give your zenoss instances?
[20-Aug-2008 00:11:25] <daMaestro> it seems 1G is not enough for ~30 devices
[20-Aug-2008 00:11:53] <daMaestro> i'm running a 32bit guest for our test zenoss instance (as zope uses tons less ram 32bit)
[20-Aug-2008 00:14:12] <daMaestro> kso512, ah... you can lock individual ipservices
[20-Aug-2008 00:14:16] <daMaestro> kso512, i'm trying that now
[20-Aug-2008 00:26:59] <daMaestro> kso512, seems if the individual ipservice is locked it might actually stay
[20-Aug-2008 00:31:47] rmull is now known as rmull_
[20-Aug-2008 04:01:47] <exkev> I updated to 2.2.3 tonight (from 2.1.3) and now my 10G interfaces are modeling as 1.410Gbps
[20-Aug-2008 04:02:06] <exkev> a 4GbE bundle is 2.820Gbps
[20-Aug-2008 04:06:18] <exkev> IF-MIB::ifSpeed.104 = Gauge32: 4294967295
[20-Aug-2008 04:06:22] <exkev> IF-MIB::ifHighSpeed.104 = Gauge32: 10000
[20-Aug-2008 04:06:26] <exkev> it's reporting properly
[20-Aug-2008 04:14:20] <exkev> actually, that's a 20G port-channel there doing 2.820
[20-Aug-2008 04:14:27] <exkev> a 4G is fine
[20-Aug-2008 04:14:36] <exkev> someone must have redone InterfaceMap.py
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:42] <exkev> yep
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:48] <exkev> what monkey did this:
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:54] <exkev> for ifidx, data in iftable.items():
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> try:
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> data['speed'] = unsigned(data['speed'])
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> except KeyError:
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> pass
[20-Aug-2008 04:17:19] <exkev> it ignores the previous forloop's alteration of ifHighSpeed * 10e6
[20-Aug-2008 04:17:41] <exkev> hrm, or does it
[20-Aug-2008 04:21:11] <__adytum-bot__> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - New ULS Systems Blog - 31 Jul, 10:06PM
[20-Aug-2008 04:21:12] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=205
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:06] <exkev> yep, that's the culprit
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:07] <exkev> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:TenGigabitEthernet4/1: before 10000000000.0
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:07] <exkev> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:TenGigabitEthernet4/1: after 1410065408
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:20] <exkev> it's stuffing a big number into an unsigned32
[20-Aug-2008 04:37:37] <exkev> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset/8759
[20-Aug-2008 04:37:41] <exkev> that's the one
[20-Aug-2008 04:37:44] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Changeset 8759 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 04:54:55] <exkev> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3589
[20-Aug-2008 04:55:02] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3589 (Changeset 8759 breaks interfaces > 4Gbps) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 04:55:02] <exkev> patch submitted
[20-Aug-2008 05:56:37] zanaga_ is now known as zanaga
[20-Aug-2008 08:52:26] <nemo_> anyone know a command line way to delete OS processes
[20-Aug-2008 08:52:52] <nemo_> its very tedious to go through each one on the interface
[20-Aug-2008 09:13:24] <pb1dft> good morning
[20-Aug-2008 09:15:02] <nemo_> hey morning
[20-Aug-2008 09:15:12] <pb1dft> anyone knows how to change the goolg e map to the sattelite or terrain view
[20-Aug-2008 09:15:54] <MrTux> pb1dft: search the forums, there is a patch for this
[20-Aug-2008 09:17:03] <pb1dft> lemmi search
[20-Aug-2008 09:25:58] <pb1dft> MrTux: do you have any idea what search string to use
[20-Aug-2008 09:29:05] <MrTux> pb1dft: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4231&highlight=satellite+map and 5$ in the "i do not use google"-box
[20-Aug-2008 09:29:22] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Changing Google map view (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 09:32:16] * pb1dft feels so stupid
[20-Aug-2008 10:50:19] <faber_vr> hi guys I am having some problems running zenoss-stack on an ubuntu 8.04 can I get some help?
[20-Aug-2008 10:51:12] <nemo_> faber_vr, describe the problem, dont ask
[20-Aug-2008 10:51:55] <faber_vr> okz, sorry
[20-Aug-2008 10:51:58] <faber_vr> here we go
[20-Aug-2008 10:52:58] <faber_vr> when I try starting zenoss, here is what I get:
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> Daemon: zeoctl Error: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python is not an existing path
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> (line 41 in file:///usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf)
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> For help, use /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py -h
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> Daemon: zopectl . Error: invalid value for -s '/usr/local/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /usr/local/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> For help, use /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:36] <faber_vr> zope is the only service not starting, everything else seems to be fine
[20-Aug-2008 10:54:55] <nemo_> did you use google on the errors ?
[20-Aug-2008 10:55:50] <nemo_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20121
[20-Aug-2008 10:56:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problems with zope after upgrade to 2.2.0 (Debian) (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 10:58:55] <alexPG123> hi, i am new to networking and zenoss, so i wanted to ask why i dont get my added devices listed in Classes\Devices.
[20-Aug-2008 10:58:55] <alexPG123> I work with newest Ubuntu and get no error messages when adding a device in Management\Add Device.
[20-Aug-2008 10:59:37] <nemo_> alexPG123, read the manual . it will tell you they are in discovered devices unless you tell it different
[20-Aug-2008 11:00:26] <alexPG123> i will look a bit closer @ the manual, ok
[20-Aug-2008 11:01:47] <nemo_> good man
[20-Aug-2008 11:02:55] <alexPG123> have lunch now, will be back later
[20-Aug-2008 12:04:19] <Laguna321> hey all
[20-Aug-2008 12:05:55] <Laguna321> hey anybody here?
[20-Aug-2008 12:08:03] <arunt_> hey guys can some one help me out with certain problems i am facing with zenoss
[20-Aug-2008 12:10:26] <arunt_> hi
[20-Aug-2008 12:10:58] <arunt_> hi
[20-Aug-2008 12:22:14] <arunt_> hi anyone?
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:37] <arunt_> ithu vaayikkunnavan thendi
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:40] <arunt_> ha ha
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:55] <arunt_> /usr/local/nagios/etc
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:59] <arunt_> very imp
[20-Aug-2008 12:34:12] <arunt__> hi any one?
[20-Aug-2008 12:34:22] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[20-Aug-2008 12:45:22] <SniZ|work> hi, i chage my hardware, but i dont touch hdd, and my zenoss very slow
[20-Aug-2008 13:03:07] <Laguna321> hi anyone ?
[20-Aug-2008 13:04:43] <cciewu> good morning
[20-Aug-2008 13:06:53] <Laguna321> finnaaly some one to help
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:09] <Laguna321> eh its good evening here but thats k
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:23] <cciewu> evening? where u from?
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:26] <cciewu> nyc here
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:30] <Laguna321> wow
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:43] <Laguna321> i am from india but i stay in uae
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:00] <cciewu> figured the ae=Arab Emirates?
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:07] <Laguna321> yeah
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:14] <cciewu> so how can i help?
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:14] <Laguna321> :-D
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:21] <cciewu> if i can
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:33] <Laguna321> well kinda got a long list here but i will try to keep it short
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:48] <cciewu> ok first off what version r u working with?
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:56] <Laguna321> 2.2.0
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:16] <cciewu> what r u monitoring? nix ? windows? network devices?
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:21] <Laguna321> well i tried 2.2.3 and i thought that might have a problem so i uninstalled it and installed 2.2.0
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:27] <cciewu> ok
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:30] <Laguna321> well kinda all of them
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:38] <cciewu> ok so what's not working?
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:53] <Laguna321> oh no its working fine just not linkin up
[20-Aug-2008 13:10:07] <cciewu> explain please
[20-Aug-2008 13:10:23] <Laguna321> well when i put autodiscovery it finds nodes which are both windows and macs
[20-Aug-2008 13:10:34] <Laguna321> even though thier snmp agent is up or not
[20-Aug-2008 13:11:11] <Laguna321> so like i read in the forums that the network map get created only after u place these devices inside a location, so i created locations
[20-Aug-2008 13:11:44] <cciewu> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:12:18] <Laguna321> but i have over 250 devices and so i selected all of them and put them in a single location and when i open up the network map it just shows me my network and two devices connected to it which happens to b my mac airport
[20-Aug-2008 13:12:54] <Laguna321> and when i double click on them it just keeps toggling btw these three devices and thats that nutin much sumtin i am doin wrong here?
[20-Aug-2008 13:13:30] <Laguna321> i am looking at my zenoss dashboard now
[20-Aug-2008 13:13:32] <cciewu> well before you look at locations can you actually see all the devices you asked to scan for on that subnet?
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:16] <Laguna321> yeah all of them though i cant get all the information from each as thier snmp agent is down
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:34] <cciewu> have you done a snmpwalk to them?
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:42] <cciewu> and do you know they are up?
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:54] <Laguna321> but the funny part is i have my mac book and that for sure has net-snmp installed and that dosent show up on the map
[20-Aug-2008 13:15:38] <Laguna321> yeah my mac book does but my windows based laptop has snmp and when we do a snmpwalk it returns an error
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:06] <cciewu> is your community setup correctily?
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:19] <cciewu> also make sure you're scanning for the proper snmp version
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:40] <cciewu> sometimes you're scanning for v1 when everybody is running v2c
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:44] <cciewu> or vice versa
[20-Aug-2008 13:17:06] <Laguna321> so that means i need to go in person to eachof the devices and change the community to PUBLIC coz thats the community name thats been assigned?
[20-Aug-2008 13:17:25] <Laguna321> and where do u change the snmp version when scanning for?
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:09] <cciewu> well i wouldn't go to all 250 i'd go to one that doesn't work and see what version it is set to
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:24] <cciewu> on linux you can look at /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf and it'll tell you
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:30] <cciewu> i'm not sure on windows
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:42] <Laguna321> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:57] <Laguna321> thats for the version of the snmp
[20-Aug-2008 13:19:02] <cciewu> let me lookup the setting in zenoss, but i'm pretty sure its under settings and zproperties
[20-Aug-2008 13:19:34] <Laguna321> i think for scanning we go to network and then discover devices right?
[20-Aug-2008 13:21:24] <cciewu> yeah
[20-Aug-2008 13:21:42] <cciewu> now r all your devices on /24 or /16 networks?
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:26] <Laguna321> heheheheh i dont know what that means if ur asking me the values under zdefaultnetworktree then its /24 and /32
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:48] <cciewu> size of network
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:52] <cciewu> class b/c
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:52] <jsm> I'm developing a Postgresql ZenPack, and have run into an issue -- (not collecting any stats) -- if someone can take a look here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23940#23940 .. I'd like to get this thing released to the public by friday
[20-Aug-2008 13:23:11] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Postgresql ZenPack, almost finished! (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 13:23:27] <cciewu> goodluck jsm
[20-Aug-2008 13:23:52] <jsm> cciewu, i don't need luck, i need help
[20-Aug-2008 13:24:11] <cciewu> well luck > right person comes on line to help!
[20-Aug-2008 13:24:41] <Laguna321> eh dude me right here
[20-Aug-2008 13:24:54] <cciewu> laguna: devices/zproperties
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:02] <cciewu> snmp version: v2c
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:05] <Laguna321> hold on
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:19] <cciewu> also how many networks are you dealing with?
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:42] <Laguna321> well i am having two one local and one vpn
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:45] <jsm> i wish the zenoss devs actually hung out on this channel.
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:21] <cciewu> well i've been given a secret message that they'll appear at 11am EST on Aug 28
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:36] <jsm> wow, how thoughtful of them.
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:38] <cciewu> check topic
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:59] <jsm> most of the other oss channels have at least one developer on there..
[20-Aug-2008 13:27:31] <cciewu> yeah i don't think zenoss gets the love it deserves
[20-Aug-2008 13:27:49] <jsm> it would help if the devs nurtured their community
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:07] <jsm> the more ZenPacks , the more people it's going to appeal to
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:08] <cciewu> oh buy their enterprise product and they'll nurture you
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:30] Cosmin is now known as IoNu|z
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:30] <cciewu> i'm running 2.1.2 and zenpacks are fubar
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:40] <cciewu> so i don't think i'm missing much
[20-Aug-2008 13:37:32] <Laguna321> hey cciewu thnx dude
[20-Aug-2008 13:39:13] <cciewu> did it work?
[20-Aug-2008 13:39:33] <Laguna321> well yeah the snmp v2 devices all got discovered
[20-Aug-2008 13:39:42] <cciewu>
[20-Aug-2008 13:40:13] <Laguna321> but when i placed them all into a single location cause it was a small network i created for testing they dont show up on the network map
[20-Aug-2008 13:40:18] <Laguna321> what do i do for that?
[20-Aug-2008 13:40:48] <cciewu> well i don't use the location(geo-thing) so i'm sorry i can't help out there
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:14] <Laguna321> well the location geo thing is for the google maps right
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:16] <Laguna321> not that
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:30] <Laguna321> there is a tab called network map right?
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:32] <Laguna321> that
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:42] <cciewu> ok let me take a look at mine
[20-Aug-2008 13:42:58] <cciewu> ok mine is still transferring data, i should've chosen a smaller network oops
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:27] <Laguna321> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:29] <Laguna321> np
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:48] <Laguna321> hey another thing
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:56] <cciewu> ok
[20-Aug-2008 13:45:09] <cciewu> i'll let you know if my network map ever shows up
[20-Aug-2008 13:45:20] <Laguna321> heheheheh kewl
[20-Aug-2008 13:45:56] <cciewu> aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:11] <Laguna321> is it important to place the devices in the coorect location or what
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:13] <cciewu> ok it works
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:19] <Laguna321> huh?
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:42] <Laguna321> so what settings did u change?
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:44] <cciewu> i got this blue bouncing ball for my network and all these penguins around it
[20-Aug-2008 13:47:07] <cciewu> make sure your selected network and device class filter are similar
[20-Aug-2008 13:47:25] <Laguna321> cool i got just one cloud and one harddisk connected to it when there should be three
[20-Aug-2008 13:47:51] <Laguna321> where do i check my device class filter
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:00] <cciewu> i know i'm not supposed to ask but if you want i can email you a png
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:32] <cciewu> take the first 2 numbers of your network and add 0.0 behind it
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:47] <cciewu> like 192.168.0.0 and set your device class filter to /server/linux
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:49] <Laguna321> well thats what we do when we want to autodiscover right?
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:58] <cciewu> yeah
[20-Aug-2008 13:50:29] <cciewu> i know i haven't asked but also be aware of any iptables or firewalls running as well
[20-Aug-2008 13:51:24] <cciewu> laguna i'm sending your a png of my deskstop
[20-Aug-2008 13:51:28] <cciewu> accept
[20-Aug-2008 13:52:07] <Laguna321> send again
[20-Aug-2008 13:52:38] <cciewu> ok i'm sending again now
[20-Aug-2008 13:52:51] <cciewu> i think you have to open a private chat with me and accept
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:01] <Laguna321> i dont know its not connecting
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:15] <Laguna321> whenever i click acept it just fails
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:20] <cciewu> darn
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:28] <cciewu> ok want me to email it?
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:32] <cciewu> only 1.03mb
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:33] <Firestar> Try using www.tinypic.com to give him the screen shot
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:09] <Laguna321> na thats k cause i have a general idea of what ur talkin about
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:15] <cciewu> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:27] <Laguna321> but i have like u said put 172.16.x.x/16
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:34] <Laguna321> 172.16.x.x/24
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:40] <Laguna321> 172.16.x.x/32
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:54] <Laguna321> these three come under he 172.16.x.x network
[20-Aug-2008 13:55:04] <cciewu> well you only really need the first one 172.16.x.x/16
[20-Aug-2008 13:55:13] <cciewu> unless you really want to separate the networks
[20-Aug-2008 13:57:04] <Laguna321> k but i found four devices which is correct
[20-Aug-2008 13:57:27] <Laguna321> but what i dont understand is why they are not creating the network map
[20-Aug-2008 13:59:55] <Firestar> The four devices, are they accessible by SNMP?
[20-Aug-2008 14:00:22] <Laguna321> yup wait i am scanning again using only 172.16.0.0/16
[20-Aug-2008 14:06:41] <Laguna321> ok guys thnxs again for the help got to go now
[20-Aug-2008 14:06:48] <Laguna321> times up cya tomm
[20-Aug-2008 14:27:50] <jb> anyone here?
[20-Aug-2008 14:27:56] <Firestar> no
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:13] <nemo_> what a dumb question ...
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:27] <cciewu> well in spirit
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:30] <jb> heh
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:39] <cciewu> we're really ghouls
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:50] <jb> you guys think 8 cores is overkill for ~130 devices?
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:57] <jb> nemo_: and what a dumb answer.
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:17] <cciewu> i have 4 for ~280 devices (8G RAM)
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:30] <jb> hows it holding up?
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:37] <cciewu> not bad
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:39] <jb> this box will have 16GB
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:42] <cciewu> no problems really
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:54] <cciewu> i wouldn't really worry about the proc, more mem
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:55] <jb> ok, I think im just going to go with a single quad core then
[20-Aug-2008 14:30:02] <jb> yeah thats what I was thinking
[20-Aug-2008 14:30:07] <jb> my current 2 core box is doing ok..
[20-Aug-2008 14:30:36] <Nate187> I've got 2 dual core xeons, 3GB ram, ~120 devices and my load is 0.07
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:03] <jb> ok cool
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:04] <Nate187> but i'll see the cpu go up to 100% sometimes, is it only using 1 cpu?
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:09] <jb> Quad Core Intel® Xeon®X5460, 2x6MB Cache, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz FSB
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:16] <jb> that will be fine then
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:21] <IoNu|z> anyone know what this is?
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:22] <IoNu|z> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:22] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/zendisc.py", line 269, in inner
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:22] <IoNu|z> raise ZentinelException(result.value)
[20-Aug-2008 15:12:52] <daMaestro> is there any way to copy graphs/definitions between reports?
[20-Aug-2008 15:13:10] <daMaestro> having to re-create definitions for multiple reports is ... umm.. sub optimal
[20-Aug-2008 15:22:03] <ganiman> I'm trying to implement ldap authentication on an existing zenoss installation using the how-to found here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/
[20-Aug-2008 15:22:14] <ganiman> I believe there are things missing from this guide
[20-Aug-2008 15:22:17] <__adytum-bot__> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 15:23:20] <ganiman> when I am in the acl_users object, there is no LDAP option in the add drop down
[20-Aug-2008 15:23:27] <ganiman> I have installed the Products correctly
[20-Aug-2008 15:23:51] <ganiman> but the drop down to add plugins does not show the Products I have added
[20-Aug-2008 15:25:57] <nemo_> ganiman, nods
[20-Aug-2008 15:26:07] <nemo_> it tooks a fair bit of fiddling to get it working here too
[20-Aug-2008 15:26:23] <nemo_> i had to define a UPN also, comes with just SAMAccount configured
[20-Aug-2008 15:31:49] <ganiman> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6755&highlight=ldap
[20-Aug-2008 15:32:04] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP / ActiveDirectory Authentication (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 15:32:06] <ganiman> I'm running zenoss on gentoo - perhaps I need to tell python to update something
[20-Aug-2008 15:32:18] <ganiman> that topic seems to have the same problem I am having
[20-Aug-2008 15:38:53] <daMaestro> ganiman, do you have python-ldap installed?
[20-Aug-2008 15:39:28] <daMaestro> does anyone know why when i add a production state (for example, staging) zenoss is not polling those devices?
[20-Aug-2008 15:39:55] <davetoo> what numeric value did you give to that production state?
[20-Aug-2008 15:40:18] <ganiman> daMaestro: yes, python-ldap is installed
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:01] <davetoo> Look at the zProdStateThreshold zProperty
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:06] <daMaestro> davetoo, ah.. thanks.
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:06] <davetoo> in /Devices, for example
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:13] <daMaestro> davetoo, well i set it to 450
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:30] <davetoo> The Staging state?
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:32] <daMaestro> ganiman, i'll be setting up ldap access sometime today i think
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:39] <daMaestro> davetoo, i added a state
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:43] <daMaestro> davetoo, "staging"
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:52] <davetoo> right, and you assigned the value 450 to that state?
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:07] <daMaestro> yes
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:17] <daMaestro> however, the state level was 150 :-/
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:21] <daMaestro> so i changed it back to 450
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:25] <daMaestro> that seems to have helped
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:52] <daMaestro> davetoo, yup.. bumping it up to 450 worked
[20-Aug-2008 15:44:58] <daMaestro> ganiman, this looks like it's exactly how to setup ldap auth in plone
[20-Aug-2008 15:45:23] <ganiman> what is "this"?
[20-Aug-2008 15:45:56] <daMaestro> ganiman, setting up LDAP auth
[20-Aug-2008 15:46:28] <ganiman> I don't follow..
[20-Aug-2008 15:46:38] <daMaestro> is there really no repozo ?
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:00] <ganiman> setting up ldap authentiction in zope/zenoss is the same as setting it up in plone?
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:05] <ganiman> is that what you're trying to say?
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:24] <daMaestro> ganiman, they use the same code, yes
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:34] <daMaestro> ganiman, so i'd be able to help in ~5 hours
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:36] <daMaestro> lol
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:55] <daMaestro> unless our new ldap tree goes live before I expect
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:23] <daMaestro> btw, that "recommended" backup command is not the best way to backup zope
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:30] <davetoo> How do you control access with LDAP auth?
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:44] <davetoo> how do you restrict permissions?
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:55] <davetoo> daMaestro: what is the recommended method?
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:59] <davetoo> for the backup?
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:04] <daMaestro> davetoo, i've not looked, but it uses the same bits as plone.. so you likely map ldap groups to zope roles
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:15] <daMaestro> davetoo, repozo
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:31] <daMaestro> davetoo, it can do online backups
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:35] <daMaestro> davetoo, delta backups
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:36] <daMaestro> etc
[20-Aug-2008 15:51:04] <daMaestro> /opt/zenoss/bin/repozo.py
[20-Aug-2008 15:51:08] <daMaestro> in the rpm
[20-Aug-2008 15:51:31] <daMaestro> blah, they really, really need to ship a pth definition with the rpm
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:17] <ganiman> or people could just stop using rpms
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> [jon@frontier ~]$ rpm -ql zope|grep pth
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/zope.pth
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> [jon@frontier ~]$ cat /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/zope.pth
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> /usr/lib64/zope/lib/python
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:27] <daMaestro> ganiman, give me a buildout, and sure
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:39] <daMaestro> meteoroid, is working on one iirc
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:42] <ganiman> has to be the worst package system ever though up
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:51] <daMaestro> ok, let's stay on /topic please
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:55] <daMaestro> ;-)
[20-Aug-2008 15:54:08] <daMaestro> davetoo, PYTHONPATH=/opt/zenoss/lib/python /opt/zenoss/bin/repozo.py --help
[20-Aug-2008 15:55:18] <faber_vr> hi everyone
[20-Aug-2008 15:55:36] <faber_vr> after upgrading zenoss, I can't see any portlets in the dashboard... did this happen to anyone of you?
[20-Aug-2008 15:55:49] <faber_vr> I tried looking for some info in google but i had no luck
[20-Aug-2008 16:10:02] <cciewu> can't you just re-add them?
[20-Aug-2008 16:12:20] <davetoo> browser/zope cache
[20-Aug-2008 16:12:50] <meteoroid> daMaestro: yeap, but there is no documentation on how to install zenoss from source except for existing scripts, taking a while to get sorted out..
[20-Aug-2008 16:12:51] <davetoo> zenoss stop; cd $ZENHOME/var; rm *.zec; zenoss start
[20-Aug-2008 16:13:01] * meteoroid still can't even get a service monitored on the copy of zenoss he has running via rpms
[20-Aug-2008 16:13:10] <davetoo> but first try shift+reload in your browser
[20-Aug-2008 16:13:19] <meteoroid> daMaestro: i have a pretty clear idea now, maybe by this weekend i can make some new progress
[20-Aug-2008 16:17:07] <faber_vr> cciewu: when I click on 'Add portlet...', I just get an empty window...
[20-Aug-2008 16:17:51] <faber_vr> davetoo: I tried also removing browser and zope cache but it didn't help
[20-Aug-2008 16:23:55] <davetoo> faber_vr: did you stop zenoss and clear the .zec files?
[20-Aug-2008 16:24:10] <faber_vr> yes
[20-Aug-2008 16:25:11] <Firestar> faber_vr, did you upgrade using an RPM, or from source?
[20-Aug-2008 16:28:54] <faber_vr> i used the binary for ubuntu
[20-Aug-2008 16:42:50] <jiffe99> well port 135 is open, I'm still getting wmi timeouts though
[20-Aug-2008 16:44:41] <Nate187> How would you set up a hierarchy, so if a router fails it wouldn't flood alarms from devices behind it?
[20-Aug-2008 16:50:54] <davetoo> the ping tree is supposed to handle that
[20-Aug-2008 16:55:07] <Nate187> i had the routemap collector plugin disabled before i upgraded the ram
[20-Aug-2008 16:55:13] <Nate187> i'll readd that and see what happens
[20-Aug-2008 16:55:56] <Nate187> do you know if it gathers bgp routes by default?
[20-Aug-2008 17:03:35] <cciewu> no clue sorry
[20-Aug-2008 17:11:00] <MrTux> Nate187: the newroutemap gets bgp routes
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:27] <jsm> i'm lost
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:32] <jsm> all my datapoints are graphing now
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:35] <jsm> exact
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:46] <jsm> except for one
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:58] <jsm> and it's not any different than the others
[20-Aug-2008 18:58:18] <Bulwinkle> Hello
[20-Aug-2008 19:05:09] <jsm> hi
[20-Aug-2008 19:07:05] <Firestar> hi
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:12] <jsm> can anyone think of a reason one particular datapoint wouldn't be graphing?
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:18] <jsm> my script returns a value proper
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:21] <jsm> properly
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:31] <jsm> and i've set the datapoint to type GAGUE
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:33] <jsm> GAUGE
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:59] <jsm> but it's the only one out of 24 that's not graphing its value
[20-Aug-2008 19:49:46] <Nate187> whats the script output look like?
[20-Aug-2008 19:55:21] <jsm> Nate187, one sec
[20-Aug-2008 19:56:31] <jsm> STATUS OK|numbackends=19 blks_read=5205 xact_commit=176775 tup_deleted=12337 xact_rollback=79 blks_hit=30018499 tup_returned=1626817642 tup_updated=37994 tup_inserted=36311 tup_fetched=4330345 idx_scan=906993.0 n_tup_ins=24338.0 n_tup_del=11900.0 idx_tup_fetch=982467.0 n_tup_upd=37351.0 seq_tup_read=1599410035.0 seq_scan=1026512.0 heap_blks_hit=19999125.0 tidx_blks_read=4.0 toast_blks_hit=3270.0 idx_blks_hit=1517593.0 tidx_blks_hit=1029.0 to
[20-Aug-2008 19:56:32] <jsm> ast_blks_read=126.0 idx_blks_read=125.0 heap_blks_read=597.0
[20-Aug-2008 19:56:56] <jsm> forgive the line wrappage
[20-Aug-2008 19:57:16] <jsm> numbackends is not getting graphed
[20-Aug-2008 20:44:40] _Tino is now known as Tinozaure
[20-Aug-2008 22:07:58] <jeld> I am trying to fix some stuff in the HPMonitor ZenPack, is there any documentation on writing collector plugins?
[20-Aug-2008 22:31:11] <jsm> jeld, i just finished a zenpack.. what are you having problems with?
[20-Aug-2008 22:34:16] <jeld> well, for example, some of my boxes are of models not included in the ZenPack, can I automatically add products as part of the detection?
[20-Aug-2008 22:37:01] <jeld> if I could do that I could use HOST-RESOURCES-V2-MIB to map all the installed packages on all boxes
[20-Aug-2008 22:38:10] <jsm> i don't think you could automatically add
[20-Aug-2008 22:38:33] <jsm> i didn't have to do a collector piece for mine
[20-Aug-2008 22:39:02] <jeld> OK, how do I set OS name and version from collector plugin?
[20-Aug-2008 22:39:28] <jeld> somehow HPModel plugin ends up with OS name and version mixed up
[20-Aug-2008 22:41:51] <jsm> have you looked in the zenpacks dir and looked at the python code?
[20-Aug-2008 22:41:59] <jsm> they probably mixed up the field
[20-Aug-2008 22:42:53] <jeld> yes, I did, it uses setOSProductKey to set OS, but I cannot seem to find any way to set name and version
[20-Aug-2008 22:42:55] <jeld> where do I look?
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[21-Aug-2008 06:28:19] <SniZ|work> hi, i chage my hardware, but i dont touch hdd, and my zenoss very slow and not collect info.... wtf?
[21-Aug-2008 07:05:27] <Han> How do I discover the version of my current zenoss install?
[21-Aug-2008 07:35:00] <Han> found it.
[21-Aug-2008 08:22:33] <nemo_> morning
[21-Aug-2008 08:29:42] <thrope> anyone else having trouble with the zenoss website?
[21-Aug-2008 08:30:40] <nemo_> yeh looks spooned
[21-Aug-2008 08:40:36] <nemo_> does work ,just mega slow
[21-Aug-2008 08:44:21] <thrope> well hopefully someones monitoring it and an alerts fired off somewhere
[21-Aug-2008 08:49:21] <Laguna321> hey guys i am back just in case some ones listening
[21-Aug-2008 08:53:15] <nemo_> thrope, would be embarrasing if not
[21-Aug-2008 09:38:42] djs26_ is now known as djs
[21-Aug-2008 10:07:52] <Laguna321> hey guys i have a small problem here
[21-Aug-2008 10:28:50] <nemo_> well explain the problem perhaps
[21-Aug-2008 11:06:46] <Laguna321> hey sorry about b4 had to go for lunch
[21-Aug-2008 11:07:33] <Laguna321> well i have four devices which have been discovered and when i put them in locations they appear in the network map but just not in the correct order
[21-Aug-2008 11:08:42] <Laguna321> am i suppoused to put the locations in nested order so tht they appear like that?
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[21-Aug-2008 11:37:39] <pb1dft> good afternoon
[21-Aug-2008 11:42:46] <pb1dft> damn a suse freak just joined
[21-Aug-2008 11:44:16] <linash> pb1dft, who're you talking 'bout? me?
[21-Aug-2008 11:45:47] <pb1dft> indeed
[21-Aug-2008 11:46:44] <linash> how do you know that?
[21-Aug-2008 11:47:06] <pb1dft> cos i see what channels you just joined
[21-Aug-2008 11:47:22] <pb1dft> #opensuse-kernel #opensuse-bugs #opensuse-factory #opensuse-fr #openSUSE-project #opensuse-buildservice #opensuse-gnome #suse
[21-Aug-2008 11:48:33] <linash>
[21-Aug-2008 11:51:52] <pb1dft> does anyone have an idea to start remodelling a complete subnet?.
[21-Aug-2008 11:59:55] <SniZ|work> hi, i chage my hardware, but i dont touch hdd, and my zenoss very slow and not collect info.... wtf?
[21-Aug-2008 12:06:50] <nemo_> lol
[21-Aug-2008 12:21:50] <Laguna321> hey guys
[21-Aug-2008 12:21:55] <Laguna321> sorry about b4
[21-Aug-2008 12:22:07] <Laguna321> but i have a slight problem with my zenoss
[21-Aug-2008 12:22:57] <Laguna321> i have scanned my network and found four devices which support snmp
[21-Aug-2008 12:23:16] <Laguna321> and they also show up on my network list
[21-Aug-2008 12:23:37] <Laguna321> well to create a network map we have to arrange these devices into locations right
[21-Aug-2008 12:23:51] <Laguna321> so i put them all into a single location which is /
[21-Aug-2008 12:24:17] <Laguna321> but when i click on the network map it shows me a cloud whch is my network and only three devices connected to it
[21-Aug-2008 12:24:33] <Laguna321> sorry two devices
[21-Aug-2008 12:25:13] <Laguna321> and it does not show me the wireless router and the server on which the zenoss is installed in which is running fedora
[21-Aug-2008 12:25:19] <Laguna321> sumtin i might b doin wrong?
[21-Aug-2008 13:25:55] <pb1dft> Grr what's wrong with windoze and memoryPagesPerSec counters
[21-Aug-2008 15:03:28] <jsm> submitted my Postgresql ZenPack this morning
[21-Aug-2008 15:05:47] <jb> nice
[21-Aug-2008 15:26:04] <jeld> In an SnmpPlugin, can I map multiple OIDs to multiple arguments of a single set function?
[21-Aug-2008 15:26:30] <nemo_> good question, no idea !
[21-Aug-2008 15:27:58] <jeld> In general, where Device properties get actually set? I see that CollectorPlugin just returns collected data from the process() function, but where is it actually applied to the device?
[21-Aug-2008 15:34:14] <nemo_> the modellor
[21-Aug-2008 15:34:19] <nemo_> works with the plugins
[21-Aug-2008 17:47:51] <magnachef> has anyone ever noticed that if you add a device via IP, that has the same name as another device already in Zenoss, that it just change the IP and other info for the existing device?
[21-Aug-2008 17:48:11] <magnachef> I'm on 2.1.3
[21-Aug-2008 17:49:32] <nemo_> magnachef, not sure i understood.
[21-Aug-2008 17:49:53] <magnachef> so I have device named "server1" with IP 10.x.x.x
[21-Aug-2008 17:50:06] <nemo_> yup
[21-Aug-2008 17:50:19] <magnachef> I then add another device that has "server1" as well (for some reason) with IP 172.x.x.x
[21-Aug-2008 17:50:47] <nemo_> ahh
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:12] <nemo_> expected tho really
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:41] <nemo_> i have a sort of similar issue
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:45] <magnachef> it's changing the original server1's IP to 172.x.x.x, but keeping the same class
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:46] <nemo_> we use short names
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:59] <nemo_> e.g. server1.us.my.com
[21-Aug-2008 17:52:06] <nemo_> and server1.nl.myco.com
[21-Aug-2008 17:52:18] <nemo_> as long as i use the fqdn its ok
[21-Aug-2008 17:53:51] <magnachef> yeah, in this case, I am too
[21-Aug-2008 17:54:02] <magnachef> but very different device classes
[21-Aug-2008 17:54:29] <magnachef> the correct thing to do is to fix the names, I know, but seems like it should be based on IP and not device name
[21-Aug-2008 17:54:32] <magnachef> IMHO
[21-Aug-2008 17:56:25] <nemo_> yes i agree with that
[21-Aug-2008 17:56:37] <nemo_> it should wipe out something with a different ip
[21-Aug-2008 18:02:33] <nemo_> shouldnt**]
[21-Aug-2008 18:07:05] <jeld> I am trying to improve HPDeviceMap collector plugin. It seems to pick up a value from SNMP and set setOSProductKey() using it. What is OSProductKey?
[21-Aug-2008 18:07:47] <nemo_> its definition is in the admin guide , i read it today but its wasnt what i needed, and i forgot
[21-Aug-2008 18:08:05] <nemo_> towards the end there is a reference section that list all of em
[21-Aug-2008 18:14:39] <nemo_> i finally got the hang of upgrading now ..
[21-Aug-2008 18:29:34] <jeld> hmm
[21-Aug-2008 18:30:48] <jeld> "getOSProductKey Used to associate the operating system with a software product class" doesn't say much
[21-Aug-2008 18:31:33] <jeld> under HP MIBs there are two distinct keys, for OS name and version... I wonder how I can make it set both while modeling the device
[21-Aug-2008 18:39:03] <tinloaf> hi. how can something like this happen?: http://pastebin.com/m3c3b9d98
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[21-Aug-2008 18:39:45] <tinloaf> like, how can i see why the file is skipped, and why doesn't it find the MIB if "Loaded MIB foo" is returned?
[21-Aug-2008 20:23:33] <jeld> tinloaf, try zenmib run -v10 to see what is going on
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[21-Aug-2008 21:59:47] <sj7trunks> ehlo
[21-Aug-2008 22:07:29] <jb> hi sj
[21-Aug-2008 22:09:17] <sj7trunks> are you corrupt from efnet?
[21-Aug-2008 22:09:29] <sj7trunks> i knew a guy from there, so just wondering:)
[21-Aug-2008 22:13:06] <daMaestro> is it possible to migrate without migration of events?
[21-Aug-2008 22:13:20] <daMaestro> aka.. do i need to import the mysql db also? or just move hte Data.fs?
[21-Aug-2008 22:13:24] <daMaestro> the*
[21-Aug-2008 23:28:54] <daMaestro> are we able to use VHM with zenoss?
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[22-Aug-2008 03:20:13] <_Vile> hello there -- been getting an error w/ snmpclient -- checked google, the closest thing I found was modifying zprop timeout to 4 instead of 2.5... really related to difft devices etc... but I tried it anyway.... zen.SnmpClient Device xxxxxxx had an error: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: int expected instead of str instance ]
[22-Aug-2008 03:20:30] <_Vile> I can snmpwalk just fine from the host
[22-Aug-2008 03:20:46] <_Vile> but... perhaps the py client can't ?
[22-Aug-2008 03:21:23] <_Vile> anything additional that I can do to debug this, or has someone seen/resolved this item before ?
[22-Aug-2008 03:23:33] <_Vile> the other thought I had was loading up mib's... because I'm not sure if snmpclient is using .1 as a base.... so, perhaps there's a section of adding that I'm lacking
[22-Aug-2008 03:23:55] <_Vile> which may/may not result in that error
[22-Aug-2008 03:24:46] <_Vile> curious for a lend of advice ? Tx
[22-Aug-2008 04:15:35] <zanaga> _Vile: apparently there is something odd being returned instead of a number in some of the fields
[22-Aug-2008 04:16:37] <zanaga> you could try and run the discovery from the command line and increase verbosity, it might show you which attribute is to blame
[22-Aug-2008 04:19:48] <_Vile> how would I go about doing that ?
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[22-Aug-2008 05:37:49] <zanaga> _Vile: you can get the command line used to scan the host from the add devices page (i'm assuming that it's the place where the problem is showing) and run that as the zenoss user on the zenoss host with -v10 parameter
[22-Aug-2008 05:44:58] <_Vile> ok will test that -- just ran /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc after modifying zenfunctions w/ PYTHON="$ZOPEHOME/bin/python -v"
[22-Aug-2008 05:45:03] <_Vile> lemme revert
[22-Aug-2008 05:45:28] <_Vile> TY brb
[22-Aug-2008 05:46:02] <zanaga> the important part is to run it as the zenoss user, otherwise you will get errors later on during normal usage
[22-Aug-2008 05:48:17] <_Vile> yah was run as zenoss
[22-Aug-2008 05:48:23] <zanaga> good =)
[22-Aug-2008 05:48:55] <_Vile> lots of detail, didn't scroll through it -- hitting your suggestion first then if no success I'll run back through it
[22-Aug-2008 05:49:41] <_Vile> may take me to the same place, dunno yet
[22-Aug-2008 05:50:45] <_Vile> good catch tho... shoulda thought first to see what the page was calling
[22-Aug-2008 05:50:53] <_Vile> brain freeze
[22-Aug-2008 05:58:13] <_Vile> close -- Products/ZenModel/skins/zenmodel/addDevice.pt
[22-Aug-2008 06:59:00] <_Vile> ok nothing there ... mmm
[22-Aug-2008 06:59:38] <_Vile> im stuck again
[22-Aug-2008 07:03:20] <_Vile> I opened every port, disabled all checks on the iptables side.. completely open
[22-Aug-2008 07:03:42] <_Vile> puts me at harms risk, but...
[22-Aug-2008 07:04:30] <_Vile> same answer -- previously I had allowed all udp and tcp traffic w/ port 161 which I think is correct
[22-Aug-2008 07:04:34] <_Vile> same answer now
[22-Aug-2008 07:07:50] <zanaga> it's not the networking.. it's the snmp daemon on the network device
[22-Aug-2008 07:08:27] <zanaga> that error is caused by the snmp agent receiving a text string when it's expecting to receive a number
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:00] <_Vile> yah -- kk lemme do a ngrep on port 161 ? should that tell me more ?
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:33] <_Vile> this is the exact error... went through all details of zendisc... nada... ERROR zen.SnmpClient Unable to talk: SNMP info for xxx at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:161 timeout: 2.5 tries: 2 version: v1 community: xxxxxxx
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:33] <_Vile> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SnmpClient.py", line 94, in doRun driver.next() File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Driver.py", line 58, in next raise ex TypeError: int expected instead of str instance
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:58] <_Vile> gotcha on int expected instead of str
[22-Aug-2008 07:12:45] <_Vile> b* of a time trying to track her down w/ no verbose ability... been looking for that .... but nothing there under snmp collection
[22-Aug-2008 07:13:13] <_Vile> that I can see anyway
[22-Aug-2008 07:18:05] <_Vile> eh, back to black screen bbiafm
[22-Aug-2008 07:22:29] <zanaga> ah...
[22-Aug-2008 07:22:42] <zanaga> have you tried another snmp version?
[22-Aug-2008 07:22:55] <zanaga> some devices don't like talking v1
[22-Aug-2008 07:37:46] <_Vile> it's gentoo, that's the biggest issue right there I think.. that end device... it should be able to do v1 and v2c and usm as configured from net-snmp
[22-Aug-2008 07:38:10] <_Vile> I didn't install the os... just inherited it
[22-Aug-2008 07:39:01] <_Vile> followed directions... can snmpwalk it just fine from the source machine that zenoss is installed on
[22-Aug-2008 07:39:16] <_Vile> which is also gentoo, same versions even I think
[22-Aug-2008 07:39:44] <_Vile> I must be doing something wrong
[22-Aug-2008 07:40:08] <_Vile> I was thinking earlier... my MIB's are empty... perhaps that's my issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:40:42] <_Vile> doing a clean install of zenoss to make sure I didn't mess up
[22-Aug-2008 07:40:45] <zanaga> mibs have no effect on adding a device
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:11] <_Vile> well the device addition works fine... but I get no info aside from that it's up... and that error does POP
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:22] <_Vile> when I'm installing
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:26] <_Vile> she does install
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:32] <_Vile> and I can see her in device lists etc
[22-Aug-2008 07:42:17] <_Vile> I just don't get any addlt info such as mem, hd etc... which was what I was saying about mib's earlier... ... and I get an orange, because it says snmp agent not avail
[22-Aug-2008 07:42:27] <_Vile> so I tracked that orange back to that install issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:42:41] <_Vile> err that device addition issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:43:04] <_Vile> which seems correct... if snmpclient can't talk to my snmpd on that host then
[22-Aug-2008 07:43:06] <_Vile> that's an issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:43:24] <_Vile> am I wrong here ?
[22-Aug-2008 07:44:35] <_Vile> I only wish it would go back one or two more levels like GDB does, and give me the previous of the previous of the previous or the previous on tracing in pythong
[22-Aug-2008 07:47:25] <zanaga> i would start checking that the community string is working, and that the community is not set to paranoid on the server side.
[22-Aug-2008 07:48:08] <zanaga> after that i would grab my trusty wireshark and start looking at the network traffic to figure out what is different in the snmpwalk and zenoss probe
[22-Aug-2008 08:08:39] <_Vile> heh
[22-Aug-2008 08:18:03] <_Vile> k hitting it TY zan -- oooh timeout on snmpwalk now too... and I can see the packets
[22-Aug-2008 08:18:35] <_Vile> and this config SHOULD be working
[22-Aug-2008 08:18:39] <_Vile> kk
[22-Aug-2008 08:23:27] <_Vile> ahh I changed the default back to public for the community string, so back to square one on int instead of str... I really need to get a full debug output on which mib attribute this is failing on
[22-Aug-2008 08:23:49] <_Vile> and can't, no matter what I try
[22-Aug-2008 08:24:57] <_Vile> furthest back it goes is driver.next
[22-Aug-2008 08:25:33] <_Vile> gr brb
[22-Aug-2008 08:56:06] <nemo_> flush-hosts mysql blocked
[22-Aug-2008 08:56:15] <nemo_> whats going on there
[22-Aug-2008 08:56:20] <nemo_> only a problem since 2.2.3
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[22-Aug-2008 13:12:33] <cciewu> anybody notice issues with the production state not being reported properly?
[22-Aug-2008 13:12:46] <cciewu> on portlets?
[22-Aug-2008 13:28:33] <_Vile> define properly
[22-Aug-2008 13:54:15] <cciewu> sometimes i notice in the dashboard only 5 machines
[22-Aug-2008 13:54:27] <cciewu> but when i got into device list i see more like 50 or so
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:16] <znemo> wakey wakey
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:26] <znemo> devices/token.MYZONE/editDevice?deviceGroups=ATG
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:42] <znemo> should i be able to edit groups with a REST statement like this ?
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:47] <znemo> would be very handy !
[22-Aug-2008 15:41:01] <_Vile> ccie: gotcha -- what happens when you reboot the server that maintains polling ?
[22-Aug-2008 15:51:26] <znemo> it stops polling till the os / app comes back
[22-Aug-2008 15:56:27] <cciewu> do i need to reboot my zenoss server?
[22-Aug-2008 15:56:45] <cciewu> i can its not a big deal
[22-Aug-2008 16:04:55] <znemo> i doubt it i was talking to _Vile
[22-Aug-2008 16:46:46] <magnachef> what do I need to do to have linkUp traps clear linkDown trap events?
[22-Aug-2008 17:08:26] <Nate187> they should clear automatically
[22-Aug-2008 17:40:38] <cciewu> transforms
[22-Aug-2008 18:35:47] <daMaestro> so, is there any way to use VHM?
[22-Aug-2008 18:35:55] <daMaestro> aka so we can use mod_proxy with apache?
[22-Aug-2008 18:36:03] <daMaestro> rather, how do I access the Z
[22-Aug-2008 18:36:05] <daMaestro> ZMI*
[22-Aug-2008 18:40:57] <daMaestro> nice! we can use VHM
[22-Aug-2008 18:41:00] <daMaestro> thank gawd
[22-Aug-2008 19:43:35] <sj7trunks> beep
[22-Aug-2008 19:44:57] <sj7trunks> trying to add an alert but not finding it in the documentation or forums
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:24] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, "preferences"
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:29] <sj7trunks> hehe
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:35] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, then, alerting rules
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:36] <sj7trunks> so it's considered a class
[22-Aug-2008 20:02:09] <sj7trunks> and i'm trying to create one with SNMP, it asks for an OID but i don't see anywhere where i can do regex on the class to say if it passed or failed
[22-Aug-2008 20:52:53] <daMaestro> anyone have the issue of the DeviceList not working when using VHM?
[22-Aug-2008 20:53:37] <daMaestro> /dmd/Devices/getJSONDeviceInfo?orderby=id&orderdir=asc&offset=0&count=60&ms=........ is returning: [[], 0]
[22-Aug-2008 20:53:41] <daMaestro> but without VHM.. it works
[22-Aug-2008 20:56:00] <daMaestro> when i go directly to the zope port (without mod_proxy) it works
[22-Aug-2008 20:56:03] <daMaestro> bah!
[22-Aug-2008 20:57:01] <daMaestro> RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/server.fqdn.net:443/zport/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P]
[22-Aug-2008 20:57:15] <daMaestro> everything works, but the getJSONDeviceInfo
[22-Aug-2008 21:01:46] <sj7trunks> i love how you initially set it up and it takes like 20 minutes
[22-Aug-2008 21:01:54] <sj7trunks> but after you get the hosts added and want to do more
[22-Aug-2008 21:02:00] <sj7trunks> it's like sheesh headache
[22-Aug-2008 21:06:58] <daMaestro> ah, no need for VHR
[22-Aug-2008 21:07:12] <daMaestro> RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/server.fqdn.net:443/$1 [L,P] does the deed
[22-Aug-2008 21:07:22] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, what are you trying to do
[22-Aug-2008 21:07:27] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, be specific
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:00] <sj7trunks> daMaestro generate a process check and then graph for it
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:43] <sj7trunks> i used snmp extend/exec command in snmpd.conf to poll for the process and it comes back with either OK/Not Found/DOWN
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:51] <sj7trunks> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/generate-an-event-for-unmounted-filesystems/
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:54] <sj7trunks> all i have is that apparently
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[23-Aug-2008 19:18:12] <andrea> Hi all
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[23-Aug-2008 19:20:16] <konsa79> can anyone help me with a ticket i've open to trac websiet?
[23-Aug-2008 19:20:46] <konsa79> i open this case for zope dyng when add datasource in template
[23-Aug-2008 19:20:47] <konsa79> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3608
[23-Aug-2008 19:21:19] <konsa79> but how can the trac team debug with you the problem if in ticket you cannot leave your reference?
[23-Aug-2008 19:22:01] <konsa79> and another question, how can i set my sign in zenoss forum?
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[25-Aug-2008 05:25:42] <jeffspeff2> hi all, i'm looking into emplimenting a vpn using openvpn that will be primarily used for zenoss. I'm wondering if i have to use a bridged or routed vpn or if it even matters. thanks
[25-Aug-2008 05:26:27] <zanaga> if your VPN gateway is the zenoss server or the gateway device, routed mode is the best and easiest
[25-Aug-2008 05:26:48] <zanaga> in other cases it's usually better to use bridged mode
[25-Aug-2008 05:29:03] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, my idea was to assign static vpn addresses to the remote systems. the remote systems will only be using the vpn for the purposes of zenoss, as they all have their own servers, etc. on site.
[25-Aug-2008 05:30:55] <jeffspeff2> currently, zenoss is running in a virtual system on the windows server, with bridged ethernet. i thought i could just setup the vpn and zenoss would automatically detect the vpn network and devices.
[25-Aug-2008 05:31:22] <jeffspeff2> if i'm wrong with anything, please tell me as i'm just starting to play with vpn and zenoss.
[25-Aug-2008 05:31:57] <zanaga> well.. it's not quite as simple as that..
[25-Aug-2008 05:32:12] <zanaga> but it is doable...
[25-Aug-2008 05:33:17] <zanaga> you need to set up routes to the remote networks on the zenoss server and manually discover hosts on the other side of the vpn
[25-Aug-2008 05:33:33] <zanaga> zenoss will then think that the whole network is down if the vpn goes down for some reason.
[25-Aug-2008 05:34:23] <zanaga> to set something like that up, i'd use openvpn on the remote gateway device if possible.. otherwise you would have to add a separate route on the gateway to the vpn network
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:13] <jeffspeff2> the remote gateway device is a regular router
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:27] <zanaga> but the easiest way to do that is through routed vpn network.. for bridged network you would have to run multiple openvpn instances on the zenoss server
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:44] <exkev> is there some way to make zenoss always monitor some given service/process even if it's not detected in modeling?
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:46] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: ok, so the only option is to add the route on the gateway device
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:56] <zanaga> yes
[25-Aug-2008 05:36:14] <exkev> I have 800+ systems, and I can't manually look at them and lock them if they're in the state I want
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:23] <zanaga> exkev: hmmm.. so do you want the device to expect that the service is missing?
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:32] <exkev> based on teh device class
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:44] <zanaga> exkev: i don't know if that's possible...
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:50] <exkev> /Server/Linux/TDN should always monitor service tdn-command (custom, port 1180) etc
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:06] <exkev> it's a real deal killer right now
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:14] <exkev> we add on average, one system every 16 hours
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:50] <exkev> 2) the inability to disable alerts for a specific component, not the whole device
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:58] <exkev> 2a) flap detection doesn't exist
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:30] <exkev> er, that's all I can think of right now
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:38] <exkev> zenoss otherwise fits everything we need
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:50] <exkev> I've been using it for almost a year now
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:51] <zanaga> ummh.. so you want to know if the port goes down?
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:03] <exkev> upgrading to 2.2.3 this week (from 2.1.3) was awfully painful
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:11] <exkev> I want to know even if it was never up
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:20] <exkev> it's fine as long as it models it
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:26] <zanaga> yeah.. but the expected state is up?
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:37] <zanaga> that's doable..
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:40] <exkev> but then I don't want it to stop monitoring it when it's down at the next model run
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:53] <exkev> however, it may not be up when I add/model it
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:55] <zanaga> that's still doable
[25-Aug-2008 05:41:01] <exkev> and I want it locked so it won't pull it out next run
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:01] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, i'm confused... you're losing me on the gateway device part.... let me describe it more.... my office network is 192.168.11.0, one of the remote offices is 192.168.1.0.. I want the remote office to still use it's router, etc for regular internet traffice and everything else. I want to have a vpn setup say 192.168.5.0 that is hosted from my network, and each computer at remote office has a vpn ip to that network (computer a
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:01] <jeffspeff2> : 192.168.5.10, comp. b: 192.168.5.11, etc.), but i don't want any other traffic going through the vpn except for zenoss stuff.
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:07] <exkev> oh, 3) event escalation is awful, e.g. 90% = warning, 95% = error, 99% = crit.. just one event plz
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:43] <exkev> zanaga, howso? I'm pretty familiar with the internals and I don't see a way (wrt the monitor even if not modeled)
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:48] <zanaga> exkev: you can tune those if you wish. For us the event escalation works like a charm
[25-Aug-2008 05:43:27] <exkev> I've tried tweaking a transform to have it set the dedupid irrespective of the severity, but that went all wrong too
[25-Aug-2008 05:43:47] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: ahh.. so you plan on running openvpn on all the hosts on the remote network
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:09] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, yes... i want them all to have their own vpn ip.
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:12] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: that should be a great deal easier..
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:37] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, so which should i use, bridged or routed?
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:48] <exkev> jeffspeff, if you have compatible routers between sites, why not just use their native tunneling?
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:52] <exkev> or is router == linux box?
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:57] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: routed
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:20] <jeffspeff2> exkev, router==linksys
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:29] <exkev> hacked wrt?
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:42] <jeffspeff2> nope
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:50] <exkev> if the linksys is not the vpn endpoint...
[25-Aug-2008 05:46:11] <exkev> assuming they are the default gw for the localnet, you need to install routes on them that point foreign net -> somebox
[25-Aug-2008 05:46:41] <exkev> somebox establishes tunnels between sites, and its local routing table has the foreign sites by way of static/connected routes or routing protocol
[25-Aug-2008 05:46:44] <zanaga> exkev: hmm.. looks like the behaviour has changed since last time i looked at the raw ports
[25-Aug-2008 05:47:03] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, thanks
[25-Aug-2008 05:47:41] <exkev> zanaga, sorry I'm spewing multiple things here... to which part do you refer?
[25-Aug-2008 05:47:51] <zanaga> exkev: the port monitoring
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:06] <zanaga> exkev: to see if one of the ports is up
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:14] <exkev> I hate to use a nagios reference, but in its case I'd define services for a host and it'd check them
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:29] <exkev> but of course, nagios is 10x the suck
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:55] <exkev> for things that are snmp instances, I understand modeling is necessary
[25-Aug-2008 05:49:11] <exkev> but for sockets.. that's a lot of fail
[25-Aug-2008 05:49:48] <exkev> I need to dig into zeo db interaction w/ discovery classes and force things, then lock em
[25-Aug-2008 05:50:22] <exkev> (btw, my setup is so overgrown, I've got distributed collection and a massive hub box, and it's still overloaded)
[25-Aug-2008 05:50:43] <zanaga> exkev: or just build your own zenpack that monitors that port with a python script (or the nagios plugin)
[25-Aug-2008 05:50:47] <exkev> but I totally ahve to give props to collecting >50,000 OIDs in 90 seconds
[25-Aug-2008 05:51:08] <zanaga> it's not pretty, but should work
[25-Aug-2008 05:51:10] <exkev> hrm, yeah.. I could call it externally
[25-Aug-2008 05:52:23] <exkev> I think the way I'm leaning is I'm going to need 4 separate monitoring systems: 1) an alert/event correlation system, 2) a system/service monitoring system, 3) network devices/netflow, 4) performance trending
[25-Aug-2008 05:52:44] <exkev> zenoss tries to do them all, but few of them well
[25-Aug-2008 05:53:15] <exkev> ..is there a doc on making zenpacks that include code or modeling routines?
[25-Aug-2008 05:53:25] <zanaga> exkev: you should post your thoughts on the forum or visit back here on thursday.. that way you'll get those problems accross directly to the devs
[25-Aug-2008 05:53:49] <exkev> fyi, I'll have 8000 systems to monitor in the next year
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:11] <exkev> we're growing like wildfire, and 95% of them are all the same kind of node
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:35] <exkev> (custom clustered filesystem we call "triton", already 10 petabytes in size)
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:50] <exkev> see mozy.com
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:52] <zanaga> exkev: i think this is the doc you want: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.0/
[25-Aug-2008 05:55:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Aug-2008 05:55:36] <exkev> "12. Providing DataSource classes" cool thx
[25-Aug-2008 05:57:48] <zanaga> aww.. MozyHome is just the service i need, but it doesn't have a Linux client
[25-Aug-2008 05:58:24] <exkev> maybe next year
[25-Aug-2008 05:58:59] <exkev> the way we work now depends on file alteration monitoring, using native windows or macos spotlight
[25-Aug-2008 05:59:15] <exkev> so we don't have to scan the whole system every day
[25-Aug-2008 05:59:32] <zanaga> ah well.. i'll just set up bacula, assuming i can push down the Storage Daemon from >100Mb of ram in to something like 32Mb
[25-Aug-2008 05:59:57] <exkev> my last place went from amanda -> bacula -> backuppc
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:09] <zanaga> backuppc works on really small systems
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:12] <exkev> backula was > amanda, but backuppc >>>>>> bacula
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:28] <exkev> this was an isp with >100 servers
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:45] <exkev> I couldn't speak to why it was the answer tho
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:48] <zanaga> i've used it in the past. Imho Bacula is a lot better than backuppc
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:51] <exkev> after my departure
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[26-Aug-2008 07:21:19] <knakka> hi
[26-Aug-2008 07:21:47] <knakka> anyone having problems w/ loading RFC1213-MIB in V 2.2.3
[26-Aug-2008 07:22:11] <knakka> mine loads sucessfully, but shows only 4 nodes
[26-Aug-2008 10:37:51] <nemo> anyone here using 2.2.3 + collectors ?
[26-Aug-2008 15:38:18] <daMaestro> is there any way to force 64bit counters to be used for devices?
[26-Aug-2008 15:42:46] <nemo> perf template ?
[26-Aug-2008 15:48:19] <daMaestro> nemo, well.. we have a router that has a few 10GigE (and lots of GigE) ports
[26-Aug-2008 15:48:41] <daMaestro> nemo, we are pushing enough bandwidth via those ports that the 32bit template for interfaces is not able to properly graph
[26-Aug-2008 15:48:41] <nemo> yeh that stuff is tricky.
[26-Aug-2008 15:49:22] <daMaestro> all of our interfaces are GigE+
[26-Aug-2008 15:49:34] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell everything to use the 64bit template, rather then the 32bit one?
[26-Aug-2008 15:53:33] <daMaestro> nemo, lame.
[26-Aug-2008 15:53:56] <nemo> fixed?
[26-Aug-2008 15:54:03] <daMaestro> nemo, it looks like you have to "trick" the device to use the ethernetCsmacd_64 template by renaming the ethernetCsmacd to ethernetCsmacd_32 and ethernetCsmacd_64 to ethernetCsmacd
[26-Aug-2008 15:54:26] <nemo> like i said , tricky
[26-Aug-2008 15:54:36] <nemo> the world should convert to 64bit an get over it
[26-Aug-2008 16:09:54] <daMaestro> nemo, so.. it seems that since it modeled with the 64bit counters.. everything is b0rked
[26-Aug-2008 16:10:10] <daMaestro> nemo, do you know how to tell zenoss to completely re-init the device?
[26-Aug-2008 16:11:14] <nemo> i usually delete and re add
[26-Aug-2008 16:11:27] <nemo> prob is some fancy way tho
[26-Aug-2008 16:41:29] <knakka> hi
[26-Aug-2008 16:42:01] <knakka> anyone having problems load RFC1213-MIB in V 2.2.3?
[26-Aug-2008 16:42:32] <knakka> mine seems to load successfully, but show only 4 nodes
[26-Aug-2008 16:44:04] <knakka> anyone...this has been bothering me for the last few days
[26-Aug-2008 19:01:37] <densone> anyone know the best practice to monitor nfs mounts with zenoss?
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[27-Aug-2008 05:46:34] <webpass> hello all, i have a stupid question:
[27-Aug-2008 05:47:04] <webpass> if i have a space in a device class (or any other organizer for that matter) how can I call it in zendmd?
[27-Aug-2008 05:57:41] <zanaga> you could try devices.getOrganizer('/Server/My Leet Servers')
[27-Aug-2008 05:57:58] <zanaga> in theory it should work
[27-Aug-2008 06:04:08] <webpass> ah, yeah thanks, that seems to be working
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[27-Aug-2008 10:16:39] <shakespear> hi - is someone using host.hrSWRun table with solaris 10 devices?
[27-Aug-2008 10:18:06] <shakespear> currently I am having the issue, that this table sometimes does NOT deliver the correct list of running processes
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[27-Aug-2008 12:33:42] <Han> I have a firewall which is redirecting snmp from a server. How can I make zenoss see firewallip:devicesnmp port as another device?
[27-Aug-2008 12:40:08] <nemo> google on that
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[27-Aug-2008 12:40:25] <nemo> i remember some one asking and it was a code change last time i remember it
[27-Aug-2008 12:58:46] <Han> nemo, I just googled on various things, like "zenoss redirect snmp," before I asked and I got nothing useful.
[27-Aug-2008 13:01:48] <nemo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5514#5514
[27-Aug-2008 13:01:55] <nemo> not 100% sure thats what you mean but ...
[27-Aug-2008 13:02:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Add Device / Default SNMP Port (at community.zenoss.com)
[27-Aug-2008 13:02:31] <nemo> that was google on zenoss alternative snmp port
[27-Aug-2008 13:06:27] <Han> that was not useful. /me goes on searching
[27-Aug-2008 13:06:41] <nemo> are you sure
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:04] <nemo> its a work around to your issue ( change of snmp port ) just its a per device thing
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:29] <nemo> ahhh firewall:snmp
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:37] <nemo> i will be quiet and get on
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:39] <Han> The bug is fixed. You can specify an alternative port and that works fine.
[27-Aug-2008 13:08:41] <Han> It's just that the firewall is also a valid device which requires monitoring by zenoss
[27-Aug-2008 13:29:07] <knakka> hi
[27-Aug-2008 13:29:32] <knakka> anyone having problems w/ loading rfc1213-mib in V 2.2.3?
[27-Aug-2008 13:39:02] <nemo> in the forums i saw it
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[27-Aug-2008 14:14:19] <duncan> hey I've got a node stuck in the DB somewhere, zenping keeps reporting that it fails to ping the device, but when I click on the link to the device I get a blank page.. I have restarted zenping and all of zenoss and it still keeps trying to ping the node
[27-Aug-2008 14:15:28] <duncan> I have since replaced the node and I can verify that it's reachable with ping and I still get ping failures listed in the event console that point to the old deleted node
[27-Aug-2008 14:16:00] <duncan> is there a zope way to search for a stale node name stuck in the db?
[27-Aug-2008 14:16:54] <nemo> zport/manage
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:01] <nemo> is your interface to the db
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:14] <nemo> after that, not sure what you can do about it
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:36] <nemo> when i have seen this type of thing solved , it normally involves someone breaking in a zendmd on the shell
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:52] <nemo> and "fixing" some stuff , followed by a commit()
[27-Aug-2008 14:18:13] <nemo> this makes me a little unkeen on zenoss tbh
[27-Aug-2008 14:18:24] <nemo> way to much stuff i dont understand on the back end
[27-Aug-2008 14:21:03] <duncan> yea I was hoping there was a guru around because I'm lost when it comes to their CLI
[27-Aug-2008 14:22:52] <DaveTo1> I've messed with it a bit, but I'm no guru
[27-Aug-2008 14:23:48] <nemo> its taking me a long time to get into python
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:05] <DaveTo1> same here
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:31] <nemo> but some of the fixes from upgrades involve a processs like: go into zport/manage/ , drill down to this key, replace some algebra, for some other algebra
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:44] <DaveTo1> I have created a few scripts by copying the top of zendmd
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:48] <nemo> my bosses dont love tech like i do, they just ask wtf isnt it working ..
[27-Aug-2008 14:25:24] <nemo> i have recommended a dedicated zenoss admin for 3000 devices, full time guy
[27-Aug-2008 14:25:38] <nemo> because i think to run it properly its needed
[27-Aug-2008 14:26:19] <DaveTo1> That's probably the case for any reasonably complete monitoring product
[27-Aug-2008 14:26:44] <DaveTo1> I'm a bit frustrated with Zenoss 2.2.x
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:14] <DaveTo1> I have ..
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:16] <nemo> i dont like having to cry to zenoss with every weird stack trace
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:23] <DaveTo1> hmm, this system has 1244 devices
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:31] <nemo> i know something about these things, but zenoss leaves me feeling like a n00b sometimes
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:41] <DaveTo1> and the way they use zenhub now, it's a big bottleneck
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:58] <nemo> yeh i guess you can add another hub/collector tho
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:03] <DaveTo1> I've had to figure out how to run a second instance of the zenhub daemon, on different ports, for discovery and adding new devices
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:06] <DaveTo1> that's what I've done
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:09] <nemo> 2.2.x architecture is better than 2.1.x
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:25] <nemo> important to note, its all single threaded
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:29] <DaveTo1> I need to script that so I don't have to do it by hand on all eight or so of my zenoss systems
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:33] <nemo> start more daemons for more cores
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:59] <DaveTo1> there was a period where some stuff used zenhub and some didn't;
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:00] <nemo> yeh me too DaveTo1 , taking me sometime but i got quite a select of scripts and stuff now
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:06] <DaveTo1> now that everything is, that's easier to do again.
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:22] <DaveTo1> I
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:23] <DaveTo1> 'd
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:25] <nemo> yeh status monitor and perf monitor are now one thing -- collector
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:39] <DaveTo1> I'd like to see them work on integrating RRDTool 1.3
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:56] <DaveTo1> big performance gains with the new memory tricks
[27-Aug-2008 14:30:07] <DaveTo1> no readahead, etc
[27-Aug-2008 14:30:09] <teletype> is there any way to have the status of zencommand checks show up on a device's status page, when they are not in an error condition? am i missing something obvious?
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:17] <DaveTo1> As in having a green dot Status icon, like for ipService, FileSystem, etc?
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:19] <DaveTo1> Good question
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:23] <teletype> yeah
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:40] <teletype> it would be more reassuring to people
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:09] <nemo> most people *think* their zenoss is running ok
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:12] <DaveTo1> I'd look at the template for the device overview page and see how that part of the window is built
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[27-Aug-2008 14:32:16] <nemo> they just dont know how to tail logs \
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:21] <DaveToo> heh
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:26] <nemo> btw i recommend multitail
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:32] <teletype> yeah, i am, Dave. learning python in the process heh
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:34] <nemo> i have a zenatch script
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:41] <nemo> for watching the most important logs to me
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:59] <DaveToo> I'd like to get back to integrating syslog input
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:08] <DaveToo> but it's easy to create such an alert storm
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:15] <nemo> syslog i have done
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:16] <nemo> works well
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:18] <DaveToo> what I was doing was pre-filtering with syslog-ng
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:30] <DaveToo> it takes a lot of work, IMO, to filter out the noise
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:32] <nemo> i trawsnform things away i dont want
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:35] <nemo> quite yes
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:48] <nemo> not enough automation , too much fiddling everyday
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:48] <DaveToo> I think it's easier to do that in syslog-ng first
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:54] <nemo> still dont have good perf stats
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:06] <nemo> if i adjust something , it normally breaks graphs etc
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:16] <nemo> i shudder to bind templates ;/
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:25] <DaveToo> actually there is some FM going on with the reporting that I don't like
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:33] <nemo> FM ?
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:38] <DaveToo> Fscking Magic
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:40] <teletype> f'ing magic
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:42] <nemo>
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:49] <teletype> highly technical term.
[27-Aug-2008 14:35:48] <DaveToo> Sometimes what you see for a graph definition is not actually what's being built; you can copy the default graph def and paste it back into a custom graph def verbatim, and it won't work because you don't have the magic substitutions that are going on
[27-Aug-2008 14:36:03] <DaveToo> to iterate over devices/interfaces/etc.
[27-Aug-2008 14:36:23] <DaveToo> Before they garbled the URLs that was easier to troubleshoot
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:09] <DaveToo> but as part of I18N (I guess) there is encoding that hides the actual rrdgraph command
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:17] <DaveToo> used to be able to look in the logs
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:33] <DaveToo> so now you have to find it in the templates
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:40] <DaveToo> I still don't quite understand TALES,etc.
[27-Aug-2008 14:38:43] <DaveToo> I need to learn how to develop for zope 2, essentially
[27-Aug-2008 14:39:43] <nemo> thats not your job as an app administrator
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:00] <nemo> i admit some knowledge of the tech it uses is handy
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:24] <nemo> but it smells like JIRA and Confluence to me, where you pretty much start reading the source code to find out whats wrojng
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:32] <nemo> i dont need another app like that
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:56] <DaveToo> I haven't seen JIRA or Confluence but yes,
[27-Aug-2008 14:41:10] <DaveToo> I've had to spend a lot of time in the source code
[27-Aug-2008 14:41:24] <teletype> i prefer that to a black box where you have little to no means of doing your own debugging
[27-Aug-2008 14:41:58] <nemo> well i use enterprise
[27-Aug-2008 14:42:19] <nemo> i consider it a piss take to use enterprise and read code
[27-Aug-2008 14:42:30] <teletype> well yeah
[27-Aug-2008 14:42:43] <DaveToo> I wish I could get our folks to buy at least a small Enterprise license
[27-Aug-2008 14:43:19] <nemo> honestly, every zenoss person ive dealt with is fine, etc
[27-Aug-2008 14:43:19] <DaveToo> get the full experience
[27-Aug-2008 14:43:30] <nemo> id just prefer the product fell over less
[27-Aug-2008 14:44:16] <DaveToo> I need alert filtering
[27-Aug-2008 14:44:37] <DaveToo> summarization
[27-Aug-2008 14:44:59] <DaveToo> for big sets of alerts that the layer 3 topology can't take care of,
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:14] <nemo> i need to fix my topology
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:17] <DaveToo> need to send summary alerts
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:25] <nemo> network guys dont want snmp on routers so no topology
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:31] <DaveToo> snuh?
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:42] <DaveToo> how the heck do they watch the traffic?
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:57] <nemo> hmm they do, they just dont want me / zenoss to
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:58] <DaveToo> erm, well, maybe netflow
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:00] <nemo> politics
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:07] <nemo> will get sorted one day or another
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:41] <DaveToo> I am pretty dissapointed that "zendisc --routers" has been b0rked.
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:44] <DaveToo> I relied upon it.
[27-Aug-2008 14:54:43] <DaveToo> When did these performance graphs for the monitors/collectors show up?
[27-Aug-2008 15:31:59] <Nate187> when using a command in a datasource for an interface, how can i pass the mac address and ip address as arguements?
[27-Aug-2008 15:33:29] <DaveToo> Something like ${device/manageIp}
[27-Aug-2008 15:33:52] <DaveToo> the admin guide has a table of available variables
[27-Aug-2008 15:34:09] <DaveToo> search for "TALES Device Attributes"
[27-Aug-2008 15:34:28] <DaveToo> I don't necessarily know yet when to use "device" vs "here"
[27-Aug-2008 15:35:57] <Nate187> I think i want 'here' to fetch info from the interface properties instead of the device properties
[27-Aug-2008 15:36:38] <Nate187> but i don't see anything that looks like ipaddress or macaddress in those attributes
[27-Aug-2008 15:39:17] <DaveToo> This is where I've had to spend time rooting around in the code
[27-Aug-2008 15:39:32] <DaveToo> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py
[27-Aug-2008 15:39:54] <DaveToo> look at _properties and _relations
[27-Aug-2008 15:40:04] <DaveToo> 'macaddress' is a simple scalar property
[27-Aug-2008 15:40:24] <DaveToo> but 'ipaddresses' is a one-to-many relation
[27-Aug-2008 15:43:58] <DaveToo> I also use zendmd to figure this stuff out
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:12] <DaveToo> d = find('j4-2labrtr.lab.example.com)
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:27] <DaveToo> >>> i = d.os.interfaces()[0]
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> >>> i.macaddress
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> '00:00:15:00:00:00'
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> >>> i.ips
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> ['127.0.0.51/8']
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:56] <DaveToo> The ZMI (Zope Management Interface) is also helpful
[27-Aug-2008 15:45:12] <DaveToo> just append /manage after your URL (if you're logged in as a Manager)
[27-Aug-2008 15:53:09] <Nate187> I think I want to pass the mtu and ifindex to the script but $mtu ${mtu} ${here/mtu} ${device/mtu} all return a key error
[27-Aug-2008 15:55:09] <DaveToo> Nate this is where some indexing magic comes in, I think.
[27-Aug-2008 15:55:47] <DaveToo> I don't know if/how you can use zencommand for indexed items
[27-Aug-2008 16:06:59] <DaveToo> It used to be easier to debug this stuff by looking in the logs
[27-Aug-2008 16:07:11] <DaveToo> but the URLs are garbled now due to some I18N stuff
[27-Aug-2008 16:10:27] <ZUsr> Hello
[27-Aug-2008 16:11:15] <ZUsr> Can anyone please helpme on how to access Zenoss Webinterface via another system(not the one on which zenoss is installed) on the network
[27-Aug-2008 16:46:03] <Firestar> ZUsr, http://<ip of your Zenoss box>:8080
[27-Aug-2008 16:51:40] <daMaestro> is there any way to get the graphs to render every minute for data?
[27-Aug-2008 16:52:08] * daMaestro has reduced the poll time to 60 seconds for snmp, but the graphs still show 5m renders
[27-Aug-2008 17:11:51] near_ is now known as near
[27-Aug-2008 17:16:22] <daMaestro> anyone know where to start diagnosing "temporary disabling (Bad Gateway) digest from my.squid.next.to.me.org
[27-Aug-2008 17:16:27] <daMaestro> "?
[27-Aug-2008 17:17:02] <ZUsr> i tried to access Zenoss over the port 8080 but can't access it from any other system other than the one on which zenoss is installed
[27-Aug-2008 17:19:56] <Firestar> ZUsr, maybe iptables is blocking outside access? Try flushing iptables.
[27-Aug-2008 17:20:45] <daMaestro> gah
[27-Aug-2008 17:20:48] <daMaestro> wrong channel, sorry
[27-Aug-2008 17:36:38] <ZUsr> i have restarted iptables
[27-Aug-2008 17:37:01] <ZUsr> by adding the ACCEPT rule for port 8080
[27-Aug-2008 17:37:08] <ZUsr> but it still doen't work
[27-Aug-2008 17:41:08] <Firestar> do an iptables -F to flush them, and then try
[27-Aug-2008 17:41:33] <Firestar> don't restart after flushing, or your previous rules will go back
[27-Aug-2008 17:52:35] <ZUsr> i flused the iptables but still can view the Zenoss webinterface
[27-Aug-2008 17:53:30] <ZUsr> i even tried disabling the firewall but could not access the Zenoss web interface
[27-Aug-2008 17:54:15] <ZUsr> I have installed Zenoss on Centos 5.0
[27-Aug-2008 17:54:45] <ZUsr> when i just give the http://ip_address.
[27-Aug-2008 17:54:57] <ZUsr> it gives me the apache welcome page
[27-Aug-2008 17:55:44] <ZUsr> but when i give the http://ip_address:8080 it says that page can not be displayed
[27-Aug-2008 17:58:01] <Nate187> is zen running?
[27-Aug-2008 18:00:25] <ZUsr> yes
[27-Aug-2008 18:00:57] <zanaga> does lsof -i :8080 show anything?
[27-Aug-2008 18:07:25] <Nate187> How do I reference interface properties in a data source command?
[27-Aug-2008 18:07:43] <Nate187> I thought it would be something like ${here/ifindex}, but it returns a key error
[27-Aug-2008 18:18:39] <ZUsr> yes lsof -i :8080 gives me 5 entries
[27-Aug-2008 18:25:31] <Firestar> ZUsr, is there a firewall between the computer you're trying to access from, and the server that has Zenoss running on it?
[27-Aug-2008 18:31:02] <thrope> hello - I am thinking of setting up zenoss, but I'm not sure the best way. we have a number of sites - each has a main gateway server that has a public interface and an internal interface. we also have a vpn linking all these sites so we can access them by the internal ip addresses (although obviously the vpn traffic comes through the external interface)... would it be better to monitor on the internal interface through the vpn and just check
[27-Aug-2008 18:32:54] <ZUsr> yes i guess there is a network firewall... how would i check that
[27-Aug-2008 18:36:01] <Firestar> ZUsr, talk to your network admin?
[27-Aug-2008 18:40:19] <ZUsr> ok thanks
[27-Aug-2008 18:40:22] <ZUsr> for the help
[27-Aug-2008 19:13:44] <zanaga> AHHA! got a bunch of errors out of my database
[27-Aug-2008 19:14:12] <zanaga> lets see if i can get the rest of them too =)
[27-Aug-2008 19:46:35] <daMaestro> yea, so does anyone know if there is a way to have graphs render for every minute of data
[27-Aug-2008 19:46:37] <daMaestro> ?
[27-Aug-2008 19:52:42] <daMaestro> it seems i need to change the resolution for the existing rrd dbs
[27-Aug-2008 20:53:12] <nick_v> Anyone else having odd UI issues with the Event Console. Scrolling will often seem to cause the console to blank out or jump around. (Firefox 2 and Firefox 3)
[27-Aug-2008 21:20:03] <daMaestro> nick_v, it's firefox
[27-Aug-2008 21:20:09] <daMaestro> nick_v, disable smooth scrolling
[27-Aug-2008 21:24:30] <nick_v> Already diabled.
[27-Aug-2008 21:24:34] <nick_v> disabled.
[27-Aug-2008 21:25:22] <nick_v> It tends to happen when I have 80+ events in the console.
[27-Aug-2008 21:25:31] <nick_v> When I just have 30 or so it is not a problem
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[28-Aug-2008 10:22:38] <ToM-> Where does the value come from on the filesystem minmax treshold?
[28-Aug-2008 10:24:21] <ToM-> is it the free space left?
[28-Aug-2008 10:32:13] <ToM-> Just trying to figure out how to make the value more human readable
[28-Aug-2008 10:41:43] <nemo> perf templates
[28-Aug-2008 10:45:24] <ToM-> hmmmh well those aren't any good on formating the text that comes to MinMax..
[28-Aug-2008 10:46:25] <nemo> i transform it and make my own evt.summary=""
[28-Aug-2008 13:34:38] <jb> hi
[28-Aug-2008 13:34:40] <jb>
[28-Aug-2008 14:34:21] <rbw> hello!
[28-Aug-2008 15:01:07] <mrayzenoss> Good morning.
[28-Aug-2008 15:01:19] <jb> hey matt
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:00] <mrayzenoss> jplouis and I are ready for questions, other Zenossians are lurking
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:15] <jb> oh, I forgot the devs are here today..
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:32] <jplouis> just one
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:41] <jb> im guessing there was no progress on the whole RRD gaps/zenperfsnmp problems..
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:41] <mrayzenoss> so far
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:50] <jb> so hopefully when I transition to enterprise this problem will go away..
[28-Aug-2008 15:04:00] <mrayzenoss> well, the same people will be working on them
[28-Aug-2008 15:04:08] <mrayzenoss> Chet and EAD were on that
[28-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <jb> speaking of the devil
[28-Aug-2008 15:05:33] <mrayzenoss> Hey Chet, jb was just asking about http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3536
[28-Aug-2008 15:05:52] <cluther> wait.. I wasn't the devil, was I?
[28-Aug-2008 15:06:02] <jb>
[28-Aug-2008 15:11:20] <mrayzenoss> any questions?
[28-Aug-2008 15:11:24] <mrayzenoss> seems pretty quiet today
[28-Aug-2008 15:11:26] <kgoedtel> I have systems being shown in reports when using systems organizer in which they no longer exist in the organizer the particular report is using.
[28-Aug-2008 15:12:13] <teletype> mrayze: is there any way i can have the status of zencommand based checks be shown in the device status screen when they are not in error condition? we would like the reassuring green pill
[28-Aug-2008 15:12:23] <kgoedtel> The device was removed from one organizer and placed in another, but it still is 'residually' reporting for the previous organizers
[28-Aug-2008 15:12:46] <kgoedtel> this is 2.2.3
[28-Aug-2008 15:15:00] <Guyverix> I have been seeing strange errors in zenactions that seem to cause it to time out quite often when I have email rules set with counts.. Ver 2.2.3 x64
[28-Aug-2008 15:15:26] <jplouis> kgoedtel: can you open a ticket with steps to reproduce?
[28-Aug-2008 15:16:09] <kgoedtel> I haven't been able to reproduce at will unfortunately
[28-Aug-2008 15:16:59] <kgoedtel> i've viewed the organizer via zope manage to make sure i wasn't insane
[28-Aug-2008 15:17:01] <mrayzenoss> teletype: The individual device will show "green" on the device page, but you want it on the dashboard?
[28-Aug-2008 15:17:34] <teletype> nope, on the device page status tab. zencommand based checks are only showing up in the status display if they are in an error state.
[28-Aug-2008 15:18:17] <mrayzenoss> teletype: that sounds like a real bug, why don't you open a ticket
[28-Aug-2008 15:18:38] <jplouis> kgoedtel: any steps and which reports would be helpful to track it down.
[28-Aug-2008 15:18:48] <teletype> ah, really? so i'm not crazy then. will do, thanks
[28-Aug-2008 15:19:09] <kgoedtel> basically all i did was remove a device from one organizer under systems to another
[28-Aug-2008 15:19:30] <kgoedtel> i can provide screenshots
[28-Aug-2008 15:19:43] <kgoedtel> which would probably illustrate the problem best
[28-Aug-2008 15:20:09] <mrayzenoss> teletype: we'll verify the ticket. You're just running zencommand and nothing else, and it stays grey?
[28-Aug-2008 15:20:30] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: didn't you have a forum thread for that?
[28-Aug-2008 15:20:44] <Guyverix> actually I opened a bug.
[28-Aug-2008 15:21:01] <Guyverix> was kinda curious if it was me, or a real bug
[28-Aug-2008 15:21:28] <teletype> i'm trying to use some custom nagios scripts via zencommand over ssh. the check works correctly, but if i look at the device status page, it does not show up at all. if i cause the script to return an error state, then the component is listed with the appropriate color pill under 'Other' category
[28-Aug-2008 15:21:52] <teletype> if i then cause the script to return an OK status, the component will no longer be listed
[28-Aug-2008 15:23:04] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: ticket #?
[28-Aug-2008 15:23:21] <Guyverix> let me dbl check
[28-Aug-2008 15:24:21] <jplouis> kgoedtel: screenshots and the report being run would be helpful
[28-Aug-2008 15:24:48] <malbon> lo matt el al.
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:10] <cluther> kgoedtel: This organizer/reporting behavior is expected. The organizers that an event is associated with are set at event time, not reporting time. So if an event is created for a device when it is in the /Mail system, then the device gets moved to the /Database system the event will remain a /Mail event.
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:23] <malbon> are there any examples of using SnmpPlugin.deviceProperties
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:25] <malbon> ?
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:44] <cluther> malbon: $ZENHOME/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[28-Aug-2008 15:26:22] <Guyverix> bug 3593
[28-Aug-2008 15:26:28] <jb> hrmf
[28-Aug-2008 15:26:37] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: I just found it
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:29] <kgoedtel> this report is a performance report
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:30] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: and zenactions hangs and that's the last thing in the log?
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:36] <kgoedtel> not an event report
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:37] <Guyverix> yes
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:42] <malbon> cluther: thanks.
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:08] <Guyverix> when I restart it, it says that it finished the action after usually over 1000 seconds
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:09] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: I'll raise the priority, that doesn't sound like a medium bug
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:31] <cluther> kgoedtel: Which report(s)?
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:44] <Guyverix> ok, I pasted in what I think is the sql command being used, but I dont know if the h. is a place holder or not
[28-Aug-2008 15:29:30] <kgoedtel> a custom one i created in multi-graph
[28-Aug-2008 15:30:07] <cluther> kgoedtel: ah.. ok.
[28-Aug-2008 15:30:13] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: that ticket will get looked at, it looks like a good candidate to get fixed for 2.3
[28-Aug-2008 15:31:24] <kgoedtel> i am getting some screen, have em in a bit
[28-Aug-2008 15:31:38] <Guyverix> cool!
[28-Aug-2008 15:31:59] <Guyverix> BTW, is there anything in the works to integrate Zenoss into external ticketing systems?
[28-Aug-2008 15:32:29] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: Enterprise has a Remedy plugin
[28-Aug-2008 15:32:32] <malbon> Guyverix: I have done this using email and our ticketing system.
[28-Aug-2008 15:32:53] <mrayzenoss> There is an AlarmPoint ZenPack coming someday
[28-Aug-2008 15:33:17] <Guyverix> Ahh, OK.. So Remedy, via enterprise, and RT or the like via email..
[28-Aug-2008 15:33:38] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I'd like a good RT howto
[28-Aug-2008 15:33:54] <Guyverix> does the enterprise one for Remedy show the ticket that is associated with the device?
[28-Aug-2008 15:34:12] <mrayzenoss> I don't know the specifics, cluther?
[28-Aug-2008 15:34:14] <Guyverix> inside Zenoss itself, I mena
[28-Aug-2008 15:34:47] <cluther> Guyverix: Nope.. just Zenoss details in Remedy.
[28-Aug-2008 15:35:02] <Guyverix> hmm, ok
[28-Aug-2008 15:35:25] <cluther> kgoedtel: I can definitely reproduce that in the multi-graph reports.
[28-Aug-2008 15:35:37] <malbon> one thing about integrating them is that the zenpop doesn't have a mechanism to redirect to 'default' device for sorting out returns from the ticketing system of choice.
[28-Aug-2008 15:36:36] <zanaga> is it possible to customize the link that comes with the email alert. It would work better for us if the url pointed to the IP of the host
[28-Aug-2008 15:37:09] <Guyverix> ${here\manageIp} ?
[28-Aug-2008 15:37:31] <kgoedtel> oh great!
[28-Aug-2008 15:38:49] <malbon> cluther: I tried the getattr, however I cannot get a valid return for zDeviceTemplates, any ideas?
[28-Aug-2008 15:38:50] <zanaga> i mean the link that is in the e-mail.. usually it's something like http://hostname-of-zenoss:8080/.... we can't use the DNS to locate the server for various reasons so it would be more useful if the link was http://10.0.0.2:8080/...
[28-Aug-2008 15:39:32] <cluther> malbon: You extended the deviceProperties with zDeviceTemplates at the top of your collector plugin too?
[28-Aug-2008 15:39:51] <malbon> cluther: yes, I tried that.
[28-Aug-2008 15:39:57] <cluther> zanaga: Add a zopeurl entry to your $ZENHOME/etc/zenactions.conf
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:08] <cluther> andyhold: zopeurl http://10.0.0.2:8080
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:17] <cluther> oops.. zanaga, not andyhold.
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:29] <zanaga> ah.. doing that right now
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:54] <cluther> malbon: So your getattr is always coming back with ""?
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:03] <cluther> zanaga: Restart zenactions when done.
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:13] <malbon> cluther: None is what is printed on my debug line
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:20] <malbon> cluther: http://pastebin.ca/1187481
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1187481 (at pastebin.ca)
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:55] <malbon> cluther: a dir on device, and str of deviceProperties
[28-Aug-2008 15:43:22] <zanaga> curses, i still have some HelloWorld objects haunting my installation..
[28-Aug-2008 15:44:52] <malbon> cluther: no rush on it, ping me back later today or tomorrow
[28-Aug-2008 15:46:16] <mrayzenoss> malbon: How has JMX been working for you in 2.2.3?
[28-Aug-2008 15:47:16] <malbon> mrayzenoss: Haydn has been doing most of the testing. I think the attributes have been working ok.
[28-Aug-2008 15:47:24] <cluther> malbon: Yeah.. I have your mail on it. I know I've tested this due to a previous thread we've had.
[28-Aug-2008 15:47:57] <mrayzenoss> malbon: well jplouis has been doing most of that work, so here's your chance to complain
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:09] <malbon> mrayzenoss: there is the issue of the methods not returning the right values, well values at all.
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:42] <malbon> cluther: yes, I would like to get this sorted but it'd probably be better to take it off-line. I am trying Haydn's hack to fix my itch.
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:49] <jplouis> for jmx operations or for attribute calls?
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:59] <malbon> jplouis: operations
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:12] <jplouis> with or without parameters?
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:23] <malbon> jplouis: I belive that attribute collection and graphing is working.
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:34] <malbon> from my understanding with parameters
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:47] <jplouis> malbon: hold on...
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:49] <malbon> sadly he isn't here to ask.
[28-Aug-2008 15:50:55] <malbon> cluther: do you want an egg or zipfile of my code?
[28-Aug-2008 15:51:47] <jplouis> malbon: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3573
[28-Aug-2008 15:52:36] <cluther> malbon: zip is good
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:04] <cluther> kgoedtel: Looks like there's a catalog indexing problem.
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:30] <cluther> kgoedtel: For the time being, do a dmd.Devices.reIndex() in zendmd, then a commit()
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:34] <malbon> so 2.2.4 is going to drop soon?
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:36] <cluther> kgoedtel: This will fix the existing reports.
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:44] <mrayzenoss> malbon: Yeah, 2.2.4 is in QA right now
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:44] <zanaga> cluther: great.. zopeurl does exactly what i wanted. Thanks
[28-Aug-2008 15:57:07] <malbon> mrayzenoss: cool, I'll look forward to the upgrade fun
[28-Aug-2008 15:57:38] <malbon> jplouis: have you scaled this to many hosts?
[28-Aug-2008 15:57:41] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 should be in beta next month and is slated for October
[28-Aug-2008 15:58:25] <jplouis> 2.3 has some enhancements to deal with a lot of hosts
[28-Aug-2008 15:58:31] <malbon> sounds good. what leet features does it include?
[28-Aug-2008 15:58:50] <kgoedtel> cluther: worked like a charm!
[28-Aug-2008 15:59:06] <jplouis> malbon: I meant jmx has some features for more hosts
[28-Aug-2008 15:59:10] <malbon> I must admit we suffer from slowdowns especially on high zeneventlog insertion rates, also on models with software inventories.
[28-Aug-2008 15:59:57] <jplouis> malbon: the number of connections to the jmx servers should be greatly reduced, mainly one connection per collection cycle
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:21] <malbon> jplouis: yeah good. We will have it on over 70 servers soon so it'll get a good testing.
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:41] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 will have JP's JMX improvements, WMI improvements (Vista & Server 2008) and more VMware stuff
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:46] <jplouis> malbon: zenjmx in 2.3 will also be better about sending events on error conditions (bad mbean name etc..)
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:58] <malbon> jplouis: cool, that's actually useful.
[28-Aug-2008 16:01:05] <malbon> jplouis: a modeller framework?
[28-Aug-2008 16:01:35] <jplouis> malbon: no, not this go around
[28-Aug-2008 16:01:48] <malbon> jplouis: shame, I was hoping.
[28-Aug-2008 16:02:12] <malbon> jplouis: talking of this let me know when you get to that stage, I'd be interested in jython integration for modelling.
[28-Aug-2008 16:02:36] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 is more about stabilizing and improving what we have, more features will come around in the next release
[28-Aug-2008 16:03:18] <malbon> yeah, that's good, there has been some good work done in the 2.2 series to that goal too.
[28-Aug-2008 16:04:29] <mrayzenoss> JP and I are going to take off pretty soon, thanks for everyone's questions. The log will be up soon and we'll have another session scheduled for 2 weeks.
[28-Aug-2008 16:04:36] <jplouis> malbon: if you have a test system you can use the trunk version of zenjmx for load testing.
[28-Aug-2008 16:05:08] <malbon> jplouis: I think haydn is doing that on his test system, so I'll check on where he is.
[28-Aug-2008 16:05:41] <mrayzenoss> And thanks to cluther for answering all the questions for us
[28-Aug-2008 16:05:51] <jplouis> malbon: ok, the newest zenjmx is somewhat different... it actually is a python daemon and an small java rpc server
[28-Aug-2008 16:06:16] <jplouis> bye
[28-Aug-2008 16:06:19] <malbon> jplouis: ok, nice.
[28-Aug-2008 16:06:49] <malbon> thanks zenoss folks.
[28-Aug-2008 16:07:52] <mrayzenoss> later
[28-Aug-2008 16:08:47] <nemo> damn i missed the big convo
[28-Aug-2008 16:21:43] <cluther> malbon: Bad news.. your plugin works perfectly for me.
[28-Aug-2008 16:22:00] <malbon> cluther: damnit.
[28-Aug-2008 16:22:50] <malbon> cluther: so we have a problem with our installation.
[28-Aug-2008 16:23:31] <malbon> cluther: was that on core 2.2.3?
[28-Aug-2008 16:23:58] <cluther> malbon: I've only tried it on trunk, but I don't think there are any relevant changes since 2.2.3.
[28-Aug-2008 16:24:09] <cluther> One thing I see is the indentation is weird.
[28-Aug-2008 16:24:45] <cluther> malbon: Maybe you have some tabs mixed in with your spaces?
[28-Aug-2008 16:27:04] <malbon> cluther: yes I'll tab nanny it
[28-Aug-2008 16:27:39] <malbon> cluther: thanks for taking a look, I'll clean it up tomorrow and maybe ping you if it is still not working.
[28-Aug-2008 16:28:29] <malbon> cluther: gotta dash, thanks for the help.
[28-Aug-2008 16:29:50] <Guyverix> BTW, where was Simon today?
[28-Aug-2008 16:31:29] <shaskell> Hi guys... question about zenoss processes... Should the .py processes (zenwin, zenwinmodeler, zenevent) have more than 2 running processes (1 proc, 1 watchdog) in the process table, at any given time?
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:00] <shaskell> I've written my own watchdog script to clean things up and this is what I've been logging...
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> Thu Aug 28 09:00:01 EDT 2008
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> killing zeneventlog.py - 10593
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> killing zeneventlog.py - 13747
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> killing zeneventlog.py - 13748
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:35] <shaskell> Thu Aug 28 09:15:01 EDT 2008
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:35] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 10550
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:35] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 13704
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:36] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 18830
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:38] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 18831
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:40] <shaskell> ...
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:42] <shaskell> ...
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:58] <shaskell> zeneventlog and zenwin have processes hanging around
[28-Aug-2008 16:33:19] <shaskell> zenwinmodeler had a ton of defunct processes the other day and it left zenoss in a bad way
[28-Aug-2008 16:34:12] <Nate187> Is there any way to reference the interface properties (ifindex, macaddress, etc) in a data source command template in order to pass them as arguements to a script?
[28-Aug-2008 17:27:28] <cciewu> how come my command is not being run when it is in the proper template/device?
[28-Aug-2008 17:30:34] <Nate187> did you try remodeling the device?
[28-Aug-2008 17:36:05] <cciewu> no not necessary
[28-Aug-2008 17:36:20] <cciewu> i have the command in the template
[28-Aug-2008 17:41:45] <Nate187> I've been manually adding interfaces to a device, and I've noticed they won't start collecting until i remodel it
[28-Aug-2008 17:43:18] <teletype> harvey?
[28-Aug-2008 19:49:46] <sj7trunks> mmm
[28-Aug-2008 19:49:58] <sj7trunks> do the zen developers make an appearence today?
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:13] <teletype> they did this morning
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:17] <sj7trunks> heh
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:18] <sj7trunks> just my luck
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:23] <sj7trunks> are they on eastern time or what
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:42] <teletype> guessing so given the topic
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:49] <sj7trunks> lol
[28-Aug-2008 19:51:31] <sj7trunks> what you up to teletype?
[28-Aug-2008 19:53:10] <teletype> working
[28-Aug-2008 19:53:42] <sj7trunks> aren't we all
[28-Aug-2008 19:57:32] <jb> yeah they are EST
[28-Aug-2008 20:09:08] <sj7trunks> is there a way to add status indicators to list monitored services?
[28-Aug-2008 20:45:44] <W8_4Sleep> is there a way to "rescan" a device in order to discover new interfaces that are up?
[28-Aug-2008 20:45:50] <W8_4Sleep> (cisco router with vlans)
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:02] <W8_4Sleep> or subinterfaces, rather
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:18] <teletype> remodel it
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:40] <W8_4Sleep> aha
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:49] <W8_4Sleep> so remodeling = rescan?
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:59] <W8_4Sleep> ...it certaintly appears so
[28-Aug-2008 20:47:04] <teletype> yup, it will do the same discovery as when y ou add it initially
[28-Aug-2008 20:47:27] <W8_4Sleep> nice, I thought remodeling was something like creating a 'template' for similar devices
[28-Aug-2008 20:47:55] <teletype> nope. redoes the initial scan using the device's current template. also useful if you have bound additional templates to the device
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:15] <W8_4Sleep> yeah, i can see that now - works like a charm
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:29] <W8_4Sleep> thanks =)
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:32] <teletype> np
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:51] <rbw> Hello!
[28-Aug-2008 20:49:24] <teletype> and with that, time to go home
[28-Aug-2008 20:49:25] * teletype &
[28-Aug-2008 20:58:01] <rbw> can a collector be used to send data to a zenoss master server? I'd like to place a Zenoss server inside a customers network, is it possible to make it report its data collected from servers inside this network to the Zenoss master server?
[28-Aug-2008 21:13:15] <cbleach> I have a question about event transformations.
[28-Aug-2008 21:14:52] <cbleach> I use check_http to monitor the health of an application, but if the server is down I don't want to recieve an alert about the application.
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:05] <cbleach> so I added
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:20] <cbleach> if device.pingStatus() >0:
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:34] <cbleach> evt.eventstate = 2
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:47] <cbleach> to the tranformation for that applicaiton check event class
[28-Aug-2008 21:17:16] <cbleach> if the applicaiton check fails before the server is detected as being down, will that transformation be applied the next time the application check fails?
[28-Aug-2008 21:18:10] <cbleach> I guess my question is if the transformations are executed only when the event first appears (count = 1)?
[28-Aug-2008 21:27:22] <cbleach> or are they executed every time an event occurs (count = 2 for example)?
[28-Aug-2008 22:41:21] <cluther> cbleach: If you're still paying attention.. they are only executed the first time. Additional events will hop onto the first using the deduplication logic.
[28-Aug-2008 22:42:01] <cluther> cbleach: The only fields that can ever be updated on existing events are summary, count and lastTime.
[28-Aug-2008 23:28:00] <brian_nz_sun> good day/evening all
[28-Aug-2008 23:30:07] <brian_nz_sun> anybody install zenoss on Sol9
[28-Aug-2008 23:37:04] <brian_nz_sun> hello, anybody alive in here
[28-Aug-2008 23:37:49] <wonderhamster> Hello. I am trying to add an alert for an individual server so that it will email and smtp->sms gateway if that server goes down. I'd like to apply the rule so that applies to an individual server and not all ping alerts. What is the best way to go about doing that?
[28-Aug-2008 23:38:18] <nemo> preferences->alerts?
[28-Aug-2008 23:38:22] <nemo> did you see that stuff
[28-Aug-2008 23:38:49] <nemo> you can build a query , like device "starts with" , ends with ,and so on
[28-Aug-2008 23:39:16] <nemo> brian_nz_sun, nope no sol fun here
[28-Aug-2008 23:39:23] <wonderhamster> no I have used that for alerting. I've only been alerting based on the priority of events
[28-Aug-2008 23:40:01] <brian_nz_sun> see that, seems i'm on my own. arg well, will hack away and build a Solaris 9 PKG from scratch ...
[28-Aug-2008 23:41:14] <brian_nz_sun> wish i can convince the client to lob in a few linux boxes.
[28-Aug-2008 23:42:12] <nemo> thats why virtualisation rocks
[28-Aug-2008 23:43:15] <brian_nz_sun> true ..but i'm currently stuck with Sparc processors, and VMware does not run on that ...YET
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:05] <wonderhamster> nemo: Thank you. That just saved me a lot of time
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:14] <nemo> glad to be of service
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:34] <nemo> brian_nz_sun, you think vmware is going sparc >??:)
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:57] <nemo> sun has sun virtualisation covered, vmware wont bother surely
[28-Aug-2008 23:45:53] <brian_nz_sun> officially i'm not allowed to answer that, my employer gets cross ..
[28-Aug-2008 23:46:33] <nemo>
[28-Aug-2008 23:48:12] <cbleach> cluther: Thanks, that is what I thought. It would be nice to have the option to have the transformation evaluated every time the event occurs.
[28-Aug-2008 23:51:37] <nemo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23682&sid=23205a7b93adeccff65c99c03cebad73
[28-Aug-2008 23:51:52] <nemo> anyone knows the answer to this ? its not my post,but i have the same issue
[28-Aug-2008 23:51:53] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zendmd - Reset Bindings (at community.zenoss.com)
[28-Aug-2008 23:52:09] <nemo> problem trying to delete device templates
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[29-Aug-2008 00:18:13] <coll> what's the default user & password for zenoss?
[29-Aug-2008 00:18:27] <cbleach> admin/zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 00:18:47] <coll> thanks
[29-Aug-2008 00:36:04] <coll> zenoss is not gathering any information. what could this be? it's a centos virtual machine.
[29-Aug-2008 01:42:44] <sn1ffer72> test
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[29-Aug-2008 07:14:43] <rbw> Hello! is it possible to set up distributed monitoring with zenoss core? i.e. having a zenoss device in a remote location which collects and forwards data to a zenoss 'master server'?
[29-Aug-2008 11:49:57] <imcdona> RBW - That feature is only available in the paid version
[29-Aug-2008 12:06:45] <nemo> mmm i heard of core users setting it up
[29-Aug-2008 12:06:51] <nemo> you just cant have more than 1 hub
[29-Aug-2008 13:43:15] <sn1ffer72> I loaded a couple of zenpacks and now the web frontend will not start
[29-Aug-2008 13:43:20] <sn1ffer72> any thoughts?
[29-Aug-2008 13:44:26] <sn1ffer72> then i removed the zenpacks and still no go
[29-Aug-2008 13:45:30] <sn1ffer72> I did restart the zenoss services after I removed the zenpacks
[29-Aug-2008 17:03:52] <mindbendr> hi
[29-Aug-2008 17:04:09] <mindbendr> could someone explain why would I go witn zenoss instead of nagios?
[29-Aug-2008 17:04:35] <mindbendr> is there any specific advantages?
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[29-Aug-2008 17:55:49] <sn1ffer72> one advantage
[29-Aug-2008 17:55:59] <sn1ffer72> it's a lot easier to get up and running
[29-Aug-2008 17:56:35] <sn1ffer72> I have been doing NMS for 8 yrs
[29-Aug-2008 17:56:56] <sn1ffer72> I admin 120 systems (NetCool, NerveCenter, Nagios, WUG, MRTG, you name it)
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:07] <teletype> ugh netcool
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:20] <nemo> zenoss is a bit more corp etc i guess. still very young
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:24] <sn1ffer72> Nagios for the average person has a steep learning curve (see: just add a node with its own unique SNMP string)
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:39] <nemo> because nagios was perl, it was easier
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:41] <sn1ffer72> yes.. nagios and zen are corp based
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:49] <teletype> nagios is written in C, not perl
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:57] <nemo> like most i broke my python cherry because of zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:02] <sn1ffer72> there is no way these would scale for a carrier
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:03] <nemo> like most in here*
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:17] <nemo> sn1ffer72, the way zenoss is heading it does
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:24] <nemo> imho that is
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:34] <sn1ffer72> zenoss so far kinda pisses me off when all of a sudden the web interface stops working though
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:46] <nemo> collectors setup in 2.2.3 is nicer
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:54] <sn1ffer72> I am fairly new to zenoss... I have also used IpMonitor from solarwinds
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:56] <kgoedtel> web interface stops working? never seen that before
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:00] <nemo> sn1ffer72, i agree totally, i have my fustrations too
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:16] <nemo> how long do you run it for kgoedtel ?
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:33] <kgoedtel> over a year
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:38] <sn1ffer72> ipmonitor is prob the easiest to use
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:40] <kgoedtel> pre 2.0
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:43] <nemo> 2 devices or something ?
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:50] <kgoedtel> no
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:53] <kgoedtel> hundreds
[29-Aug-2008 18:00:20] <nemo> well i know a few ppl using it, every see it fall over every now and again
[29-Aug-2008 18:00:41] <nemo> i run some clean up scripts x2 a day to make sure theres no zope db issues etc
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:08] <nemo> i only started with 2.1x
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:10] <kgoedtel> i've had the zeo cache become corrupt but never had a problem while it was running
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:24] <nemo> i guess i have many users logging in too
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:30] <kgoedtel> yeah i don't
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:33] <kgoedtel> only 2 of us
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:35] <nemo> probably 10 or 20 screens watching it
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:47] <kgoedtel> i rarely stay logged in
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:51] <kgoedtel> the other guy does
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:03] <sn1ffer72> any idea how to clear the web server cache on this bad boy?
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:09] <kgoedtel> i just watch my alerts via email/sms
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:37] <nemo> sn1ffer72, search on tricks and tips, there is some zenoss blog with some code snippets
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:51] <nemo> writing python helper scripts is really the way to go
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:19] <nemo> i just experience much flakiness
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:30] <nemo> i am trying to look at the os tab for a device
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:36] <kgoedtel> i delete $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:41] <nemo> and it just offeres a traceback ending in keyerror
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:58] <nemo> yeh i do too, twice daily
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:04] <kgoedtel> twice? lol wow
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:07] <nemo> one before "production" one after
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:11] <kgoedtel> i think i have deleted 3 times ever
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:35] <nemo> i am about the only person who understands a bit about zenoss at my co
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:45] <kgoedtel> that's not good
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:51] <nemo> busy place
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:03] <kgoedtel> monitoring is important
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:18] <nemo> i keep mentioning it, but i made good progress
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:35] <nemo> but i keep finding weirdness and solving it
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:52] <kgoedtel> my biggest complaints have been fixed already
[29-Aug-2008 18:06:18] <kgoedtel> originally i had a problem with virtual interfaces with services running on them not showing the right status
[29-Aug-2008 18:06:31] <kgoedtel> but that is working as of a few versions ago :]
[29-Aug-2008 18:07:06] <nemo> i turned most of the candy off
[29-Aug-2008 18:07:24] <nemo> and it runs quite well
[29-Aug-2008 18:08:10] <nemo> some of the best features still dont quite work well for me tho. not all zenoss's fault tho
[29-Aug-2008 18:08:53] <coll> zenoss is not gathering information. what could this be? it's a virtual machine with centos.
[29-Aug-2008 18:09:30] <nemo> coll, did you read the logs ?
[29-Aug-2008 18:09:52] <sn1ffer72> I am running version 2.2.3 via vm
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:05] <nemo> i run a vm too, i dont think thats relevant
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:09] <sn1ffer72> only the EL5 zenpacks install via cli
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:15] <sn1ffer72> non install via the web interface
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:25] <sn1ffer72> the new zenpacks do not install at all via the cli
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:25] <coll> oh
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:28] <sn1ffer72> or web interface
[29-Aug-2008 18:11:01] <nemo> i am using el5 anyway didnt notice
[29-Aug-2008 18:11:25] <coll> where are the logs nemo? /usr/local/zenoss ?
[29-Aug-2008 18:11:46] <nemo> i think you need to look up the admin guide tbh
[29-Aug-2008 18:12:10] <nemo> on mine its /opt/zenoss/log
[29-Aug-2008 18:14:41] <coll> i see the logs.. zencommand, zenhub, zenprocess, etc.
[29-Aug-2008 18:15:55] <nemo> so check out the log files
[29-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <coll> i havent installed zenpacks, is it required?
[29-Aug-2008 18:20:40] <teletype> they're optional
[29-Aug-2008 18:24:56] <coll> nothing shows up on the web interface. logs appear to have information though
[29-Aug-2008 18:33:13] <sn1ffer721> what else do you guys like other than zenoss or nagios?
[29-Aug-2008 18:38:23] <nemo> i tried a fw other things, zabbix meant to be ok , somewhat similar to zenoss i think
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:16] <nemo> when you reset template bindings , you are just doing it for that class ( and those below who inherit ) right ?
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:45] <sn1ffer721> love it
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:49] <sn1ffer721> fresh install of zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:52] <sn1ffer721> via vm
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:59] <sn1ffer721> installed the EL5 zenpacks via cli
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:07] <sn1ffer721> have not even added a device yet
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:21] <sn1ffer721> I select devices -> templates
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:32] <sn1ffer721> WinService
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:41] <sn1ffer721> add datasource
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:01] <sn1ffer721> give it a name and select httpmonitor
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:03] <sn1ffer721> save
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:13] <sn1ffer721> browser dies with an error
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:29] <sn1ffer721> tried a few other datasources such as BUILTIN
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:30] <sn1ffer721> COMMAND
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:36] <sn1ffer721> ..same deal
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:41] <teletype> your browser dies? weird.
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:42] <sn1ffer721> let me try firefox
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:44] <sn1ffer721> yeah
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:46] <nemo> yeh templates easily make stack traces for me
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:54] <teletype> oh, were you using ie? =P
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:16] <sn1ffer721> yea.. ie7
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:25] <nemo> ie works crap with zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:27] <teletype> big shock there then ;
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:28] <teletype>
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:35] <nemo> FF or other "open" browser needed
[29-Aug-2008 18:56:21] <sn1ffer721> ok.. fire fox no prob
[29-Aug-2008 19:02:54] <spectros> Is there a protocol for requesting help ?
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:02] <spectros> ZenBackendFailure: (1045, "Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: YES)")
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:03] <spectros> 2008-08-29 09:45:20 DEBUG zen.DbConnectionPool: Creating a new connection; Pool size: 0
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:13] <sj7trunks> did you change your mysql password?
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:18] <sj7trunks> for zenoss?
[29-Aug-2008 19:06:28] <spectros> no, on the initial install on the main hub it said for default install not to use a pass, so it has none, now on the additional remote hub I defined a pass but it looks like it's trying to connect to the local mysql instance which it installed on the box when I chose install hub
[29-Aug-2008 19:07:19] <sj7trunks> ah i don't know that one too well, sorry:(
[29-Aug-2008 19:08:02] <spectros> the mysql password it asks for when adding a remote hub through the interface is the one it will be installing or the one that exists on the main hub ?
[29-Aug-2008 19:09:29] <spectros> cause if it's asking for the one that is on the main application hub and not for a new password to use with the remote hub install then this would make sense
[29-Aug-2008 19:10:06] <spectros> I am using the main hub interface to add another new hub and it goes through and installs the hub on the remote machine and rsync's the files and all corrjust was wondering if anyone else has run into that
[29-Aug-2008 19:10:21] <spectros> sorry
[29-Aug-2008 19:10:28] <spectros> that got munged together
[29-Aug-2008 19:11:17] <spectros> guess I just need to find out if the mysql root pass it asks for when adding a hub is for the remote one you are adding or the local mysql root pass for the main instance
[29-Aug-2008 19:11:28] <spectros> just having that info I could troubleshoot from there
[29-Aug-2008 19:11:44] <spectros> but I couldn't find the answer to my question and the Admin doc was vague on the subject
[29-Aug-2008 20:22:28] <sn1ffer721> have you tried the old default root /root
[29-Aug-2008 20:22:59] <sn1ffer721> default is -uroot -p<blank>
[29-Aug-2008 20:24:02] <sn1ffer721> mysql -uroot -p<nada>
[29-Aug-2008 20:26:37] <sn1ffer721> any reason why the default install can discovery a file system
[29-Aug-2008 20:26:40] <sn1ffer721> size
[29-Aug-2008 20:26:46] <sn1ffer721> but not bytes used etc?
[29-Aug-2008 20:27:38] <sn1ffer721> the best I can come up with is the /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf does not allow everything
[29-Aug-2008 20:30:14] <nemo> snmpwalk is your friend
[29-Aug-2008 20:31:10] <sn1ffer721> haha
[29-Aug-2008 20:31:29] <sn1ffer721> getting lazy while looking at a long weekend
[29-Aug-2008 20:31:35] <sn1ffer721> this is just a fun pet project today
[29-Aug-2008 20:33:11] <nemo> snmpwalk is for the lazy
[29-Aug-2008 20:33:27] <nemo> its the easiest way to see what zenoss sees when it does a collection
[29-Aug-2008 20:33:40] <nemo> if you can see it when you walk it , zenoss can too
[29-Aug-2008 20:34:07] <nemo> might also depend on what collector plugins you have configured
[29-Aug-2008 20:37:41] <coll> why isnt zenoss showing up any data? has someone experienced a similar problem?
[29-Aug-2008 21:00:25] <sn1ffer721> ok I am getting utils now
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[31-Aug-2008 06:46:29] <imcdona> IS there a way to have a "graph report" auto-refresh?
[31-Aug-2008 19:36:04] <xfader> hi all i am having a problem with my zenoss install, i keep getting error "[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/var/zenwin/" for all windows servers i am monitoring, i have checked the username and password used to logon and it seems to be fine, any ideas?
[31-Aug-2008 19:40:17] <MrTux> xfader: did you simply create that path?
[31-Aug-2008 19:44:38] <xfader> the path exists
[31-Aug-2008 19:46:30] <xfader> when i model a server this appears in the output "skipping servername has bad wmi state"
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[01-Aug-2008 11:31:43] <SniZ|work_> hi, i wanna add to template for "Devices/Server/Windows/" to monitor not only http
[01-Aug-2008 11:31:49] <SniZ|work_> and others i wanna
[01-Aug-2008 11:31:51] <SniZ|work_> what i must do?
[01-Aug-2008 11:33:38] <SniZ|work_> in "/Services /IpService /Registered" i add monitor=true ms-sql-s
[01-Aug-2008 11:34:01] <SniZ|work_> but after i add new device - it cannot be monitored!
[01-Aug-2008 11:52:30] <SniZ|work_> RPC_S_CALL_FAILED: The remote procedure call failed. (1726)
[01-Aug-2008 11:52:30] <SniZ|work_> wtf&
[01-Aug-2008 12:59:17] <Quadro> mmm
[01-Aug-2008 13:00:02] <Quadro> why i can't alert by mail AND paging in the same alerting rule, i wonder
[01-Aug-2008 13:21:57] <IoNu|z> anyone monitoring voice over ip ports with zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 13:22:32] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "T1 0" on host (oid 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.8 is bad)
[01-Aug-2008 13:22:39] <IoNu|z> i`m keep getting these errors...
[01-Aug-2008 14:05:54] <malbon> IoNu|z: that is IF-MIB::ifOutErrors.8 (so port 8 in the table ifOutErrors
[01-Aug-2008 14:05:55] <malbon> )
[01-Aug-2008 14:06:42] <IoNu|z> i have like 800 like that...
[01-Aug-2008 14:07:12] <malbon> IoNu|z: probably not a valid type for that port, what type of port does T1 0 say under Type?
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:02] <malbon> there any zenoss devs here btw? I have a problem/question I'd like a hand with relating to RRD graph points and ObjectMap
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:11] <IoNu|z> IpInterface
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:33] <malbon> IoNu|z: then your problem is easy to solve.
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:48] <IoNu|z> really?
[01-Aug-2008 14:09:03] <malbon> IoNu|z: what you do is clone the ethernetCsmacd and call it IpInterface
[01-Aug-2008 14:09:54] <malbon> IoNu|z: you then take out the datapoints for ifOutErrors (and other oid families that are not present) and all the points on the graphs and thresholds.
[01-Aug-2008 14:10:26] <malbon> to get the name of the oid do 'snmptranslate <oid>'
[01-Aug-2008 14:11:53] <malbon> IoNu|z: this also works for propVirtual interfaces too.
[01-Aug-2008 14:14:39] <malbon> SniZ|work_: You need to put the login details of an account that can access WMI into the zProperties of the device or it's class.
[01-Aug-2008 14:19:55] <IoNu|z> where do i clone ethernetCsmacd ?
[01-Aug-2008 14:20:21] <IoNu|z> oh lol.. found it
[01-Aug-2008 14:26:48] <malbon> I tend to use /Devices /Network
[01-Aug-2008 15:44:10] <SEJeff> I'm trying to take a bogus warning event and automatically send it to history
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:09] <SEJeff> So I've created an event class and when selecting "Map Events to Class", and selecting the class, it says, "1 event is not class /Unknown"
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:27] <SEJeff> Not sure exactly I'm doing wrong
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:51] <SEJeff> *what
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:16] <rmull> Hello, I'm coming from Nagios - zenoss.com mentions that the Enterprise version has "Enhanced Windows Support." What does that mean? With Nagios, I could write a custom script to execute on remote hosts. Can I do this with Zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:35] <SEJeff> rmull, Zenoss uses wmi to run commands
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:53] <SEJeff> rmull, So you can get anything in the windows performance monitor and trend / alert on it. It is pretty cool
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:06] <rmull> SEJeff: Thanks - this is only for the Enterprise version?
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:17] <maxamillion> where might a good resource be on how to apply a SSL certificate to zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:48] <SEJeff> rmull, There are open source windows tools for zenoss, but they aren't as polished or integrated as the version in Enterprise
[01-Aug-2008 15:54:55] <rmull> Okay. Last question - Nagios has a user-contrib site where you can get all types of contributed plugins. Does Zenoss have a contrib site or similar?
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:04] <SEJeff> Yeah just a sec
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:41] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/ , http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Wiki - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:50] <malbon> rmull: Zenpacks are Zenoss Plugins, but you can also use nagios ones without too much effort
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:53] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Community Home - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 15:56:13] <rmull> SEJeff: Great, thanks. I'll be idling here for a while to learn more.
[01-Aug-2008 15:56:38] <malbon> rmull: also commercal zenoss has WinPerf datasources too which are quite handy.
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:03] <rmull> malbon: Is there a remote chance of those features ever working their way into the core release?
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:23] <rmull> I don't know jack about windows machines, but the boss wants to support a good number of them.
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:27] <SEJeff> rmull, You can get similar features with community zenpacks
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:08] <rmull> SEJeff: Fantastic. And the reason I'm considering switching is because I understand Zenoss is supposed to scale better than a Nagios/Munin combo, is that true?
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:16] <malbon> rmull: no idea to be honest. I am only a customer.
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <rmull> malbon: Fair enough, appreciate the info.
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:02] <SEJeff> rmull, Depends on how you set it up. Enterprise certainly scales better than core because it has the distributed collectors
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:23] <SEJeff> Both can scale perfectly fine if they are setup properly
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:28] <malbon> actually distributed collectors can be done with core too. it's in the book.
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:54] <SEJeff> I've been on a team that scaled nagios to 10000+ service checks on ~4000 hosts
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:13] <rmull> Did you have a graphing solution?
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:24] <SEJeff> Anyone who uses nagios also uses cacti
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:36] <SEJeff> There isn't any other decent alternative. Zenoss does it all in 1
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:41] <SEJeff> Which is much better
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:58] <rmull> SEJeff: You seem to have plenty of experience in the field - I believe you.
[01-Aug-2008 16:01:08] <SEJeff> rmull, It is my job
[01-Aug-2008 16:01:31] <SEJeff> They pay me to look like I know what I'm doing. It works well
[01-Aug-2008 16:02:59] <rmull> Yeah, I'm just getting into it, so I want to make sure I have a solid infrastructure in place before I start scaling it.
[01-Aug-2008 16:03:43] <rmull> By the way, for monitoring hosts behind NAT/firewalling, I'm using OpenVPN. I don't suppose Zenoss can handle something like this without extra tools either?
[01-Aug-2008 16:03:48] <SEJeff> rmull, Look into the distributed collectors, they are schmexy
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:08] <rmull> I suppose that means I should look into the "book" mentioned earlier as well.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:11] <SEJeff> rmull, Just put the vpn client on the zenoss server and setup a tunnle. Seem slike a no brainer
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:21] <SEJeff> This keyboard is weird
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:26] <rmull> Okay, that's what I'm doing for Nagios.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:30] <rmull> So that should be portable enough.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:43] <SEJeff> There doesn't seem like any other clean way to do it
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:53] <SEJeff> So long as the route is there, zenoss should be able to monitor it
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:57] <malbon> rmull: the Packt book is worth getting, while all the info in it is freely available it does pull it all together quite nicely
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:06] <rmull> I think Red Hat makes you license a Satellite server so they can monitor through NAT.
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:10] <rmull> Heh
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:25] <SEJeff> rmull, So setup spacewalk and forget about sat server
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:31] <SEJeff> spacewalk is open source now
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:31] <malbon> rmull: I use mrepo for my redhat distribution
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:41] <rmull> I don't want to pay Red Hat, and we're moving to CentOS anyway
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:44] <rmull> Man, I am so cheap.
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:58] <rmull> I checked out Spacewalk a while back
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:05] <SEJeff> malbon, You should really look into cobbler. yum repo + kickstart management / config with a pretty web ui
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:17] <SEJeff> Yeah it doesn't support anything but oracle ATM
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:43] <malbon> SEJeff: I use HP RDP, aka Altiris Deployment Solution
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:01] <SEJeff> Oh I'm sorry
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:07] <malbon> sadly I have to do windows as well.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:27] <rmull> Bah.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:29] <SEJeff> malbon, cobbler will soon support image based installs for windows
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:33] <malbon> actually I quite like altiris, I have automated my entire install now, including kerberos integration etc.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:59] <malbon> rmull: the book is here: http://www.amazon.com/Zenoss-Core-Network-System-Monitoring/dp/1847194281/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217606774&sr=8-1
[01-Aug-2008 16:08:42] <malbon> rmull: of course you can choose your own perferred book vendor if you like.
[01-Aug-2008 16:08:42] <rmull> malbon: Great, thank you. And SEJeff, cobbler looks pretty cool.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:01] <SEJeff> http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Cobbler: Provisioning Made Simple (at cobbler.et.redhat.com)
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:12] <rmull> Wow, this is very recently published.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:20] <rmull> Nice.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:23] <malbon> SEJeff: I got mrepo/altiris playing quite nicely, and I don't like image based windows deployments.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:45] <SEJeff> malbon, disk iso is not image based. it is though you put the cd in and booted from it
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:07] <SEJeff> So you could use RIS or something like that. Whatever the windows deployment thingy is
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:22] <SEJeff> But thats good you have something that works for you
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:52] <malbon> SEJeff: RIS is appauling, Iso based would be more interesting. I'll keep my eye open incase we have to flee the comforts of using HP stuff.
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:29] <SEJeff> malbon, The cobbler team is working on windows deployment mainly for the ovirt team (http://ovirt.org). It is all cool tech
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:46] <__adytum-bot__> Title: oVirt (at ovirt.org)
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:49] <malbon> SEJeff: have you written a modeler for a zenpack as part of what you've been doing?
[01-Aug-2008 16:12:17] <SEJeff> No, I'm working on a custom collector for sucking stuff from ganglia and shoving it into zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 16:13:08] <malbon> ok, shame.
[01-Aug-2008 16:13:56] <rmull> Blah, Ganglia, another monitoring solution. Is it something I should look at as well, or is Zenoss "the best there is."
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:16] <SEJeff> No ganglia is a very very different purpose. It is for HPC style clusters
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:27] <SEJeff> If you aren't familar with why you need it there is a good chance you don't
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:33] <SEJeff> It isn't that great
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:39] <rmull> Oh, yeah, just checked it out, definitely not what I want, heh.
[01-Aug-2008 16:23:30] <rmull> So how about those "fine grained ACLs" that the enterprise version offers?
[01-Aug-2008 16:23:51] <rmull> Can I get read-only for specific host groups with the community version?
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:31] <SEJeff> No
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:34] <SEJeff> Only enterprise
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:37] <SEJeff> From my understanding
[01-Aug-2008 16:26:18] <malbon> to be honest I haven't played with the ACL stuff yet.
[01-Aug-2008 17:40:02] <cciewu> hello?
[01-Aug-2008 17:47:46] <cciewu> i need some zenoss help
[01-Aug-2008 18:02:45] <cciewu> hello
[01-Aug-2008 18:02:59] <cciewu> are you running zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 18:03:03] <cciewu> 2.2.3?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:32] <daMaestro> anyone have syslogging working?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:41] <cciewu> syslog yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:50] <daMaestro> as I read it, the messages are supposed to show up in events for the given device?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:51] <cciewu> what is your problem with zenoss and syslog?
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:07] <cciewu> if you've modeled it with snmp yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:19] <daMaestro> yes, it's been modeled with snmp
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:29] <daMaestro> and i set: local5.crit @zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:39] <daMaestro> then: logger -p local5.crit testing
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:49] <daMaestro> however, nothing shows up in the device's events log
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:10] <cciewu> does your snmpd.conf point to your zenoss server?
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:41] <daMaestro> for traps?
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:48] <cciewu> yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:00] <daMaestro> not yet, now
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:01] <daMaestro> no*
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:32] <daMaestro> i thought that the syslogging was separate from anything snmp
[01-Aug-2008 18:13:54] <cciewu> sorry stepped away
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:12] <cciewu> well you still will want all info sent there
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:20] <cciewu> and local5.* is more accurate
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:25] <cciewu> otherwise you won't see much
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:33] <cciewu> unless is a crit
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:35] <cciewu> event
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> ./zenmigrate
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Database going to version Zenoss 2.2.1
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing EvenMoreBettererStandardErrorMessage (2.2.1)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing HappierZenPackRels (2.2.1)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> Recovering
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:02] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/zenmigrate.py", line 21, in ?
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:04] <cciewu> main()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:06] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/zenmigrate.py", line 18, in main
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:08] <cciewu> m.main()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:10] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 426, in main
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:12] <cciewu> self.cutover()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:14] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 306, in cutover
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:16] <cciewu> self.migrate()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:18] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 282, in migrate
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:20] <cciewu> m.cutover(self.dmd)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:22] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/happierZenPackRels.py", line 22, in cutover
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:24] <cciewu> for p in dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:26] <cciewu> AttributeError: ZenPackManager
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:28] <cciewu> anybody can help with that?
[01-Aug-2008 18:18:00] <daMaestro> cciewu, i'm trying to just manually test this is working
[01-Aug-2008 18:18:28] <cciewu> if you can i'd probably down the eth0 or something and see if that registers
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:02] <daMaestro> lol, i think i found it
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:10] <daMaestro> iptables mis-configuration
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:21] <cciewu> oh yeah that would definitely do it
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:31] <jb> anyone know the mysql password to the stack installer?
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:39] <jb> im trying to run zenbackup..
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:45] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~/backup$ zenbackup --save-mysql-access --file ~/zenoss-2.2.0-backup.tgz
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:45] <jb> mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:54] <cciewu> umm that would be something you need to ask your dba
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:58] <jb> uh
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:04] <jb> no?
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:14] <cciewu> otherwise set one and then use it
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:17] <jb> the stack installer includes its own copy of mysqld, and it obviously sets a default password
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:24] <jb>
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <daMaestro> you can change it via the UI
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <cciewu> oh ok then i'm not sure
[01-Aug-2008 18:21:24] <jb> daM: will that actually update the password via mysql? or just the password that zope tries to use?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:06] <cciewu> anybody have any problems with zenmigrate?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:16] <cciewu> also i've lost /home/zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:22] <jb> of course..
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:29] <jb> what version are you upgrading from/to?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:37] <cciewu> 212 to 223
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:39] <jb> oh
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:44] <jb> good luck.
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:47] <jb>
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:00] <cciewu> well burned that bridge already
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:21] <cciewu> sadly looking back to the side when my performance data still worked
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:41] <cciewu> ok brb
[01-Aug-2008 18:24:08] <jb> btw the default pw is "zenoss"
[01-Aug-2008 18:25:14] <jb> but it doesn't look there is any easy way to change the zenbackup script
[01-Aug-2008 18:26:37] <jb> other than manually editing it and adding a "-pzenoss"
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:33] <cciewu> ok i'm back
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:38] <cciewu> yeah -p zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:48] <cciewu> awfully annoying when you have to cron a mysqldump
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:38] <jb> wow
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:40] <jb> zenbackup is so busted.
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:53] <jb> i dont know what its doing to eat up so much space
[01-Aug-2008 19:03:28] <daMaestro> how do i set the snmp trap community?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:02] <daMaestro> /zport/About/editDaemonConfig?daemon=zentrap ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:08] <daMaestro> if so, what do i set?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:12] <cciewu> ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:23] <cciewu> no let me get it from the correct place
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:50] <cciewu> jb: don't forget it's also gathering all the performance data
[01-Aug-2008 19:06:01] <cciewu> yeah i blew up my tmp also
[01-Aug-2008 19:06:15] <cciewu> i'm considering mounting a nas mount behind tmp
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:02] <cciewu> maestro: look in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:08] <cciewu> trap2sink: A SNMPv2c trap receiver
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:21] <cciewu> arguments: host [community] [portnum]
[01-Aug-2008 19:11:52] <daMaestro> cciewu, for zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:11] <daMaestro> cciewu, i need to set the community name(s) that zenoss will actually honor
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:27] <cciewu> ok i think you set that in snmp right?
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:33] <cciewu> every device uses the same
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:37] <daMaestro> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.1/ZenEvents.zentrap-pysrc.html#ZenTrap.doHandleRequest doesn't seem to show a community string is actually ever checked
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:44] <jb> its annoyign that I have to make /tmp 13GB to support zenbackup's tmp files ;P
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:51] <__adytum-bot__> Title: ZenEvents.zentrap (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:57] <daMaestro> cciewu, i mean for the zentrapd community settings
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:12] <cciewu> i don't know about that setting
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:14] <cciewu> sorry
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:41] <daMaestro> sok, thanks.
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:59] <cciewu> have you looked in the forum?
[01-Aug-2008 19:32:27] <KBA-USA> Hey all
[01-Aug-2008 19:32:38] <KBA-USA> Is there a way to make zenoss play a sound when an event occurs?
[01-Aug-2008 19:35:37] <KBA-USA> Anyone?
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:45] <cciewu> a sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:48] <cciewu> ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:50] <cciewu> hm
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:05] <cciewu> yeah i think so in alerting rules maybe
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:52] <cciewu> nope no sound just checked
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:53] <cciewu> sorry
[01-Aug-2008 19:38:17] <cciewu> you could probably associate the sound with a command
[01-Aug-2008 19:38:31] <cciewu> and then when the even occurs execute the command that will play the sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:30] <KBA-USA> Yeah, that is over my head
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:34] <KBA-USA> how would I go about doing that
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:44] <KBA-USA> basically I need zenoss to play a sound when a critical alert occurs
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:09] <cciewu> do you have a cell?
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:16] <KBA-USA> a cell phone yes
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:19] <cciewu> have it send an sms to cell and have the cell ring you
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:26] <cciewu> find out your cell email address
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:33] <cciewu> put it into the alertig rule
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:46] <KBA-USA> Yeah, but there are 5 of us in the office, and Id like it to play via the zenoss kiosk we have set up
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:48] <cciewu> have the alert look for the event and then page you about it
[01-Aug-2008 19:41:23] <cciewu> i think you can schedule which pager gets the alert also
[01-Aug-2008 19:41:29] <cciewu> can put in multiple ones
[01-Aug-2008 19:42:07] <KBA-USA> Yeah but we have this nice and pretty zenoss kiosk set up in the office
[01-Aug-2008 19:42:19] <KBA-USA> it would be very useful if that kiosk played the sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:43:04] <cciewu> ok here you go setup a simple outlook client of some kind that'll receive the email in the background and play a wav file
[01-Aug-2008 19:44:51] <KBA-USA> Ok, and how would i set zenoss to email to this client ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:14] <cciewu> setup an alertr
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:28] <KBA-USA> where do I do that?
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:31] <cciewu> add a filter to look for the particular event
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:34] <cciewu> settings
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:58] <malbon> KBA-USA: the manual explains it very nicely.
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:15] <KBA-USA> I have looked though it, there is nothing about sounds
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:32] <malbon> nope because it doesn't do sounds by default.
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:42] <KBA-USA> exactly
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:46] <cciewu> right nothing about sounds, but like i said stick a email client on machine and email it, client will play sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <KBA-USA> so thats why I am asking for help
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <malbon> you need to call a script to do that on the device
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <rmull> There's no way to run a script when an event happens?
[01-Aug-2008 19:48:13] <cciewu> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/ch11s14.html
[01-Aug-2008 19:48:27] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:13] <malbon> KBA-USA: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/ch20s04.html
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:18] <malbon> it's even in the index
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:50:43] <cciewu> malbon: can you help with my zenmigrate problem?
[01-Aug-2008 19:50:49] <malbon> cciewu: no
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:11] <malbon> cciewu: I don't have enough knowledge to debug that one, sorry.
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:19] <cciewu> did you see it?
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:46] <malbon> yeah
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:52] <cciewu> ok
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:07] <cciewu> any zenoss devs hang out here?
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:12] <malbon> the 2.1.3 to 2.2.x transition was huge
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:49] <cciewu> i know, i avoided 2.2.1 and i thought they worked everything out by 2.2.3
[01-Aug-2008 19:53:48] <malbon> got a backup of your system before upgrading?
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:19] <cciewu> couldn't tmp blew up on zenbackup
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:25] <cciewu> not enough space
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:34] <malbon> oh well.
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:43] <malbon> you're knackered then probably.
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:09] <cciewu> do you know if there is a way to do zenbackup without all the perf data?
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:15] <cciewu> that'll save a lot of space
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:34] <malbon> I backup the lot.
[01-Aug-2008 19:56:04] <malbon> you could try going into var and removing the pid and zec files, after stopping
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:03] <malbon> then start zeodb and try the zenmigrate again, however the zenpacks changed a lot, so what would probably be better is putting the old zip zenpacks back, then upgrading then one at a time.
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:22] <malbon> after taking a full backup at each step.
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:27] <cciewu> hmm interesting
[01-Aug-2008 19:58:38] <malbon> but before you do anything, backup, then backup again for good measure
[01-Aug-2008 19:58:56] <malbon> afterall disk is cheap
[01-Aug-2008 21:40:38] <cciewu> does anybody know how to downgrade?
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[02-Aug-2008 04:18:01] <daMaestro> someone @ ZenOSS should make sure to chime in with this thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-July/msg00143.html
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:14] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Server Monitoring - A replacement for Nagios? (at www.redhat.com)
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:25] <daMaestro> I've already commented on the situation here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470#c8
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Bug 435470: Review Request: zenoss - The Open Source Network Management System (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
[02-Aug-2008 17:57:58] <BuFF> hello, what is a default username/passwd for zenoss ?
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:41] <BuFF> i used this installation guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Install_the_Zenoss_stack
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:47] <BuFF> anyone ?
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:56] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Ubuntu:Hardy - (at ubuntuguide.org)
[02-Aug-2008 18:01:30] <BuFF> __adytum-bot: what do u mean ?
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[03-Aug-2008 22:54:51] <[Yatta]> is there a problem with zenmib in the VM of 2.2.3 ??
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:11] <[Yatta]> i have somemibs loaded... but I'm trying to load another mib....
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:41] <[Yatta]> in loading the other mib it is saying INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SCTE-HMS-ROOTS
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:54] <[Yatta]> I have SCTE-HMS-ROOTS loaded already... :-(
[03-Aug-2008 23:10:12] <[Yatta]> I thnk i understand now.....
[03-Aug-2008 23:13:31] <[Yatta]> After I put all the mibs in the correct dependency order and run zenmib... the mibs are loaded with Nodes and Notifications...
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[04-Aug-2008 10:05:31] <DarkMats> I'm having a strange problem. zenhub doesn't start with the rest of zenoss. "service zenoss status" says that zenhub is not running, so I ran "zenhub run -v 8" and it runs just fine. Can't find anything in the logs or anything. Any advice?
[04-Aug-2008 10:06:32] <DarkMats> Oh, and when I run "zenhub run -v8" it still doesn't register with zenoss in some way. service zenoss status still says that zenhub is down and so does the zenoss page
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[04-Aug-2008 13:08:58] <KBA-USA> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up zenoss so that it will monitor my VPN connections
[04-Aug-2008 13:09:28] <KBA-USA> The problem is... the main office is on a 10.11 address and the sattilite offices are all on 192.168 addresses
[04-Aug-2008 13:09:44] <KBA-USA> Does anyone know how to make zenoss monitor this?
[04-Aug-2008 13:22:06] <Ozux> hi, I just installed ZenOSS 2.3 but unfortunately AddDevice can't find interfaces (eth0,1,2) and other OS performances, is there any Idea? I have pilot Zenoss (2.2) in same network with same condition that shows every thing related to server,
[04-Aug-2008 13:22:38] <Ozux> And .. there is no problem with Windows servers I have problem just with our LinuxServer!
[04-Aug-2008 13:59:39] <nemo_> zenoss 2.2 for enterprise
[04-Aug-2008 13:59:44] <nemo_> where is it ?
[04-Aug-2008 14:06:48] <Drognan> Are templates stored in text files? I need to make 160 graphs and I'd rather use perl than click 1200 or so times
[04-Aug-2008 14:18:21] <nemo_> werd
[04-Aug-2008 14:20:28] <Bulwinkle> Drognan: put all of the devices in one group and apply the template to the group....
[04-Aug-2008 14:21:06] <Drognan> I'm looking to make the template.
[04-Aug-2008 14:48:47] <KBA-USA> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up zenoss so that it will monitor my VPN connections. The problem is... the main office is on a 10.11 address and the sattilite offices are all on 192.168 addresses. Does anyone know how to make zenoss monitor this?
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:00] <malbon> KBA-USA: Add a network, then discover it. (This info is in the manual)
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:25] <KBA-USA> I did that Malbon, but accoring to the maunal it will only draw the links if its on the same network
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:39] <KBA-USA> and my VPN is accross 2 networks
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:48] <KBA-USA> 192.168.75.1 and 10.11.1.1
[04-Aug-2008 14:53:00] <Ozux> Do ZenOSS have Cache? I Addedd one device to ZenOSS and Deleted that, but even after restarting ZenOSS shows exactly what shows befor I Delete it!
[04-Aug-2008 14:54:53] <malbon> KBA-USA: monitoring and drawing the links in the flash applet are 2 totally different things.
[04-Aug-2008 14:55:47] <KBA-USA> Ok, well I really need the lines to draw within the flash applet. Trying to justify purchasing the "full" version
[04-Aug-2008 14:56:47] <malbon> Raise a ticket, I don't know anything about that. It would help if you asked the right question.
[04-Aug-2008 14:57:01] <malbon> Can you see the devices in the device tree ok?
[04-Aug-2008 14:57:12] <KBA-USA> Within the device list? yes
[04-Aug-2008 14:58:09] <KBA-USA> And I added static routes between the VPN devices
[04-Aug-2008 14:58:10] <malbon> ok, make sure that in the flash applet you set the start device to be your vpn router
[04-Aug-2008 15:02:35] <KBA-USA> Malbon, what do you mean by that?
[04-Aug-2008 15:02:35] <cciewu> good morning
[04-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <malbon> KBA-USA: in the 'selected device or network' box, put the IP of your vpn router.
[04-Aug-2008 15:05:48] <KBA-USA> Oh Malbon, you think I am talking about the Network Map, I mean I want it to draw the connections between the VPN routers on the Google map
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:13] <cciewu> are any of you good with graphing commands?
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:24] <cciewu> like a dns response time command?
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:50] <malbon> KBA-USA: I think you need to go and think about the exact question you want to ask, so far you've not mentioned google map at all.
[04-Aug-2008 15:24:07] <malbon> KBA-USA: A good re-read of the manual probably wouldn't do any harm either.
[04-Aug-2008 15:25:16] <cciewu> malbon have you worked with setting up datapoints with the command as a data source?
[04-Aug-2008 15:25:47] <malbon> cciewu: nope, sorry, I only use SNMP and wmi
[04-Aug-2008 15:26:27] <cciewu> do you know about the graphic ability in zenoss?
[04-Aug-2008 15:31:10] <malbon> cciewu: sorry, I don't understand what you are asking for.
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:03] <cciewu> i'm trying to create a graph with a command as a datasource
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:19] <cciewu> i was trying to gauge how much you knew
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:28] <cciewu> see if you had more than me
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:32] <cciewu> give me a few pointers
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:15] <cciewu> but i think i might have found the answer anyway here:
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:22] <cciewu> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5467&highlight=datapoint+data+source+command
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Command data sources - how? (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Aug-2008 15:58:11] <maxamillion> semi-random question: anyone know how to apply a ssl cert on zenoss?
[04-Aug-2008 15:59:35] <cciewu> not me, but i'm interested , is this to authenticate to zenoss? or are you looking at perf/monitor ssl access somewhere else?
[04-Aug-2008 16:03:29] <malbon> maxamillion: there is a ticket about that. check the trac
[04-Aug-2008 16:04:14] <maxamillion> malbon: awesome, thank you
[04-Aug-2008 16:27:14] <maxamillion> malbon: so stunnel is the only way as of right now?
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:13] <thedude42> maxamillion: i've only seen guides that tell you how to use stunnel to do zope over ssl
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:42] <thedude42> technically it's a zope issue they need to add if i understand the issue correctly
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:58] <maxamillion> thedude42: yeah, i also found one that shows how to through apache ... just wondering if there was a built in somewhere that others might know about
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:09] <thedude42> nope
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:12] <thedude42> you are not alone
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:13] <maxamillion> thedude42: yeah, i don't doubt that zope is the one lacking in the scenario
[04-Aug-2008 17:08:39] <malbon> maxamillion: I would guess so.
[04-Aug-2008 17:09:10] <malbon> maxamillion: you could probably use apache or squid to do it.
[04-Aug-2008 18:03:57] <IoNu|z> anyone monitoring cisco devices with Zenoss core 2.2.3? I am getting all kind of unknown OIDs and stuff like that
[04-Aug-2008 18:04:08] <IoNu|z> so i was wodnering if anyone has it working
[04-Aug-2008 18:09:40] <densone> anyone know where I can get a xen image for zenoss? Zenoss has a VMWare image. Wishing they had one for Xen
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[04-Aug-2008 20:43:30] <densone> zen.ZenDisc no portscan plugins found for web01. Anyone have any insight into this error. Im running ubuntu.
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[04-Aug-2008 22:24:10] <malbon> IoNu|z: did you make the propVirtual template? or is this for the VOIP Encap interfaces?
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:35] <IoNu|z> i didn`t make any template
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:47] <IoNu|z> default settings for everything
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:58] <malbon> ok, that'll be why.
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:17] <IoNu|z> so what do i need to do?
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:20] <malbon> some types of interfaces only expose certain oid's (or datapoints)
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:56] <malbon> best thing to do is get a list of the types of interface you need.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:21] <malbon> propVirtual / ds2 / VOIP Encap etc and what oid's are missing for each.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:36] <malbon> ignore the last digit it is the snmp index.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:50] <malbon> so usually it'll be .10 .11 .16 or .17 missing.
[04-Aug-2008 22:27:18] <malbon> you can then copy the ethernetCSMACD template and remove the corresponding datapoints.
[04-Aug-2008 22:28:00] <malbon> or the other option is to add something like Serial0\0\0* to zInterfaceIgnore (or whatever it is called)
[04-Aug-2008 22:30:58] <malbon> or the other option is you can send me a PM with your interface types as I am going to be working on our router templates tomorrow now I have got the switches clean,
[04-Aug-2008 22:32:12] <malbon> I can then zenpack them up and pop them onto the wiki
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:21] <IoNu|z> nice
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:27] <IoNu|z> well i`m not at work right now
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:39] <IoNu|z> but.. are you going to be available tomorow morning?
[04-Aug-2008 22:34:05] <malbon> I'm on UK time, best thing is to PM mikea on the forum.
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:49] <IoNu|z> ok
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:49] <IoNu|z> cool
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:51] <IoNu|z> thank you
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[05-Aug-2008 13:58:28] <IoNu|z> malbon you online?
[05-Aug-2008 14:07:41] <cciewu> if you would like i might be able to help if i can
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:14] <IoNu|z> cool
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:29] <IoNu|z> he was saying something about a vocie encapsulation template yesterday
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:33] <IoNu|z> for ciscos
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:47] <cciewu> ok that was sadly beyond me
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:57] <IoNu|z> dang
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:58] <IoNu|z> ok
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:00] <cciewu> sorry
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:14] <IoNu|z> maybe you can help me with soemthign else
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:20] <IoNu|z> you monitor interfaces on switches?
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:38] <cciewu> shouldn't be too hard
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:47] <IoNu|z> yes.. they are in there
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:49] <cciewu> have they been identified by snmp?
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:59] <IoNu|z> but when they change to down... zenoss still shows them up
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:33] <cciewu> i'm guessing here but maybe you need the cisco zenpack? maybe?
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:40] <cciewu> i'm assuming cisco switches
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:43] <IoNu|z> cisco sla?
[05-Aug-2008 14:11:57] <cciewu> maybe
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:28] <IoNu|z> hwo about last collection
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:34] <IoNu|z> it still shows as yesterday?
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:53] <cciewu> i don't know about when the collections are run sorry
[05-Aug-2008 14:13:02] <cciewu> i guess i'm not very good with zenoss yet
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:18] <IoNu|z> that`s cool
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:20] <IoNu|z> i`m not eather
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:23] <IoNu|z> we all learn
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:43] <cciewu> i'm actually learning from a setup that was not mine
[05-Aug-2008 14:36:11] <Gamekiller77> dude my zenoss is not working as it use ti any more
[05-Aug-2008 14:36:59] <Gamekiller77> it take so long for my portlet to load and i turned off zenmolder
[05-Aug-2008 14:38:34] <Gamekiller77> every time i try to click device list it get lost connection to the server
[05-Aug-2008 14:39:08] <Gamekiller77> also i have upgraded to 2.2.3
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:18] <IoNu|z> you have allot of routes in your config/
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:19] <IoNu|z> ?
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:34] <Gamekiller77> i have noticed mysqld.bin is using a lot of cpu %
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:49] <Gamekiller77> well i have all my servers all 20
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:57] <Gamekiller77> and the 6 switchs
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:06] <IoNu|z> i bet it`s teh first run and it`s trying to remodel everything
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:11] <IoNu|z> check by networks
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:18] <IoNu|z> see how many networks you have in there
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:31] <IoNu|z> i experienced the same problem when i had allot of networks
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:33] <Gamekiller77> in the Zenoss issues all the services have seconds listed
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:44] <Gamekiller77> yah i have like 30
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:46] <Gamekiller77> subnets
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:53] <Gamekiller77> but i turned off the modeler
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:15] <Gamekiller77> and i can not click on anthing
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:42] <Gamekiller77> every time i do the cpu load on mysql.bin jumps it at 190% now
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:45] <Gamekiller77> i have 2 cpu
[05-Aug-2008 14:44:45] <Gamekiller77> i just tried to click over to networks and nothing
[05-Aug-2008 14:44:57] <IoNu|z> did you try to restart the box?
[05-Aug-2008 14:45:17] <Gamekiller77> localhost zenmodeler 2836704 i have that in the zenoss issues
[05-Aug-2008 14:45:26] <Gamekiller77> yah done that already
[05-Aug-2008 14:46:05] <Gamekiller77> i am almost sure it the mysql that the stack uses
[05-Aug-2008 14:46:20] <Gamekiller77> why would it be at 125% usage
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:18] <IoNu|z> i have no ideea
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:37] <IoNu|z> is this teh first time taht you started with 2.2.3
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:38] <IoNu|z> ?
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:40] <Gamekiller77> my network stuff just came up
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:45] <Gamekiller77> yes
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:57] <IoNu|z> how many networks do you have in there?
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:11] <Gamekiller77> 31
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:35] <Gamekiller77> subnets
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:56] <IoNu|z> then.. that`s not your problem
[05-Aug-2008 14:49:20] <Gamekiller77> it mysql i looking at top right now on the console as i work
[05-Aug-2008 14:49:25] <Gamekiller77> and it pegged
[05-Aug-2008 14:50:35] <Gamekiller77> this was so fast then it started to get slower and slower
[05-Aug-2008 14:51:45] <Gamekiller77> with 20 servers i do not see why the database would be getting hit so hard
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:13] <IoNu|z> did you try searching for an answer on the forums?
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:26] <Gamekiller77> i going there now
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:48] <Gamekiller77> i like the more human system of IRC
[05-Aug-2008 14:56:52] <Gamekiller77> that just super odd it sits at 120 - 150% cpu usage by mysqld.bin
[05-Aug-2008 15:03:43] <cciewu> do you have anything flooding your events?
[05-Aug-2008 15:03:55] <Gamekiller77> use to not any more
[05-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <Gamekiller77> now i have a ton of RED in windows devices great
[05-Aug-2008 15:04:54] <Gamekiller77> it finaly desided to get all the service i ask it to watch on my windows boxes
[05-Aug-2008 15:06:25] <Gamekiller77> am i correct in thinking that 2.2.3 has it own mysql engine right
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:38] <Gamekiller77> ok i had mysql still running from the old install i had
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:45] <Gamekiller77> rebooting to see if that fixes stuff
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:53] <nemo_> ;/
[05-Aug-2008 15:09:51] <cciewu> might want to run some tuning on your mysql as well
[05-Aug-2008 15:10:35] <Gamekiller77> but in 2.2.X stack it has it own mysql instance
[05-Aug-2008 15:10:47] <Gamekiller77> i have to find out how to get to it
[05-Aug-2008 15:33:36] <Gamekiller77> so idle zenoss is fine
[05-Aug-2008 15:33:49] <Gamekiller77> the second i start the website it pegs mysql
[05-Aug-2008 15:39:41] <cciewu> hmm
[05-Aug-2008 15:39:59] <cciewu> what do you mean start the website?
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:20] <Gamekiller77> gui
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:24] <Gamekiller77> the dmd
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:57] <cciewu> but i thought when you start the zenoss services the website is started already
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:10] <cciewu> do mean the first time you visit the page?
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:14] <Gamekiller77> when i log in to the site
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:26] <Gamekiller77> to display the protlets
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:29] <Gamekiller77> portlets
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:04] <Gamekiller77> i think zenwin is what is killing me hmm
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:37] <cciewu> check the log in the log directory for zenwin
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:47] <cciewu> also sec the logseverity for zenwin to 10
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:11] <Gamekiller77> is that the lowest
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:37] <cciewu> i was told it ws the highest by my predessor maybe he was wrong
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:40] <cciewu> not sure
[05-Aug-2008 15:48:03] <Gamekiller77> you know what i ask not i set my self as a admin for one server and unplugged it but i never got an e-mail and the e-mail test worked fine in my account profile
[05-Aug-2008 15:49:52] <cciewu> did you set an alert rule?
[05-Aug-2008 15:49:53] <Gamekiller77> yup i think it was zenwin now i have a ton of service that are red but are not running on the system
[05-Aug-2008 15:50:49] <cciewu> can you send screenshots?
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[05-Aug-2008 16:21:07] <cciewu> gamekiller any luck?
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:19] <Gamekiller77> i cleared out the events
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:25] <Gamekiller77> and going a bit faster
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:56] <Gamekiller77> still got massive timeouts on my zenoss issues porlet
[05-Aug-2008 16:47:41] <Gamekiller77> pretty much every daemon in the zenoss suit
[05-Aug-2008 16:55:55] <Gamekiller77> zenhub was not running odd
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:22] <Gamekiller77> ok rtfm for me
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:28] <Gamekiller77> i just looked at the logs
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:32] <Gamekiller77> what an idea
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:33] <Gamekiller77> 2008-08-04 11:45:44 ERROR zen.ZenModeler: Unable to fill collection slots: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:42] <Gamekiller77> no hell if ik now what that means
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:50] <Gamekiller77> now*
[05-Aug-2008 17:00:17] <Gamekiller77> i have aht error in half the daemons in zenoss
[05-Aug-2008 17:01:44] <cciewu> sorry i wasn't watching
[05-Aug-2008 17:02:55] <Gamekiller77> i have a lot of PBConnectionLost errors
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:42] <cciewu> what are those pbconnectlost?
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:50] <cciewu> bad cable?
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:54] <Gamekiller77> no
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:01] <Gamekiller77> there in the logs of the daemons
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:12] <cciewu> all daemons or just one?
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:23] <Gamekiller77> almost all of them
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:34] <Gamekiller77> zenwin zeneventlog
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:40] <Gamekiller77> all the main stuff to tracks
[05-Aug-2008 17:06:11] <Gamekiller77> look like it is a zenhub problem
[05-Aug-2008 17:21:24] <malbon> IoNu|z: Sorry, looks like I am gonig to take a bit longer for these templates.
[05-Aug-2008 17:21:32] <malbon> IoNu|z: I found a bug in core
[05-Aug-2008 17:22:32] <IoNu|z> oh
[05-Aug-2008 17:22:41] <IoNu|z> that`s fine take your time
[05-Aug-2008 17:39:44] <IoNu|z> how do i make zenoss to do checks more offten?
[05-Aug-2008 17:40:14] <IoNu|z> it says that the last check is over an hour ago...
[05-Aug-2008 17:47:54] <cciewu> what check are you talk about ion?
[05-Aug-2008 17:47:58] <cciewu> alert checks?
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:29] <IoNu|z> yes
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:36] <IoNu|z> like when you go to the device
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:44] <IoNu|z> it says when it was added
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:46] <IoNu|z> checked
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:51] <IoNu|z> and last change
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:46] <cciewu> hey ion
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:50] <cciewu> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004706.html
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:54] <cciewu> maybe that will help
[05-Aug-2008 18:27:36] <IoNu|z> isn`t that only for ping?
[05-Aug-2008 18:31:37] <IoNu|z> oh i don`t need to change it
[05-Aug-2008 18:31:44] <IoNu|z> it checks every 5 minutes by default
[05-Aug-2008 18:32:10] <IoNu|z> but i don`t understand why it checks only when i restart zen moddeler
[05-Aug-2008 19:57:51] <cciewu> from what i know zenmodeler is what finds and queueries machines.
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[05-Aug-2008 21:13:36] <malbon> IoNu|z: did you collect up what device types you have producing bad oid reports?
[05-Aug-2008 21:31:39] <IoNu|z> cisco 5300s
[05-Aug-2008 21:34:09] <malbon> nope, not the cisco model, but if you go into your device under the OS tab you have all the interfaces.
[05-Aug-2008 21:34:29] <malbon> choose one which is erroring (eg Voice Peer: 8) and see what type it is
[05-Aug-2008 21:37:44] <IoNu|z> i have "VLAN88" on host (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:38:24] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "T1 0" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.5 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:38:44] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "Voice Over IP Peer: 4444" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.139 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:13] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "Voice Over IP Peer: 500999" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.161 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:17] <IoNu|z> they are like 625
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:47] <malbon> yes but in "T1 0" what type does it say it is?
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:25] <IoNu|z> that one is under IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:34] <IoNu|z> teh others are under Other
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:50] <malbon> hmm.
[05-Aug-2008 21:41:03] <malbon> My E1 0 is a 'ds2'
[05-Aug-2008 21:41:21] <malbon> what is your GigabitEthernet type?
[05-Aug-2008 21:42:06] <IoNu|z> what do you mean?
[05-Aug-2008 21:42:16] <IoNu|z> i have a T1 connected to it
[05-Aug-2008 21:44:22] <malbon> what I am trying to do is understand what type of template you need. So can you go into your T1 0 interface and see 3 broken graphs?
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[05-Aug-2008 21:45:56] <IoNu|z> i have 462 bad oids
[05-Aug-2008 21:46:38] <malbon> yes, I know you have 462 bad oid's but unless we get the types I can't help you really. so we have to do some prep work to get rid of these issues.
[05-Aug-2008 21:46:51] <IoNu|z> yes i have 3 broken graphs under the t1
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:07] <malbon> on that page at the top there is a table
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:21] <malbon> on the left hand column there is a field called type
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:26] <malbon> what is it's value?
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:12] <IoNu|z> componnet type?
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:30] <IoNu|z> for voice incapsulation is other
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:42] <IoNu|z> and for the t1 is IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:49:02] <IoNu|z> is this what you need?
[05-Aug-2008 21:50:07] <malbon> hang on a tick. let me find a picture in the manual, I don't have zenoss at home.
[05-Aug-2008 21:55:31] <IoNu|z> are you going to be online in 20 minutes?
[05-Aug-2008 21:55:56] <IoNu|z> i wan`t to go home and do teh rest from there
[05-Aug-2008 21:56:52] <malbon> nope
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:06] <IoNu|z> ok.. i`ll stay then
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:12] <IoNu|z> do you still have time to help me out?
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:50] <malbon> 4th row down left column in IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:55] <malbon> called Type
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:08] <IoNu|z> oh
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:10] <IoNu|z> now i got you
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:11] <IoNu|z> ds1
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:44] <IoNu|z> and Voice Encapulation for the voice over ip
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:46] <malbon> collect all those, and PM me them on the forum.
[05-Aug-2008 22:00:27] <IoNu|z> ok
[05-Aug-2008 22:00:33] <IoNu|z> what`s your id on the forum?
[05-Aug-2008 22:01:37] <malbon> mikea
[05-Aug-2008 22:01:54] <malbon> anyhow gotta go. need some sleep.
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[06-Aug-2008 14:53:55] <IoNu|z> malbon you on?
[06-Aug-2008 14:58:07] <duncan> good morning Zenossians... question, I'm running 2.1.2 in production and we're moving to a newer server, should I be able to use zenbackup and zenrestore onto 2.2.3?
[06-Aug-2008 15:00:58] <cciewu> NOOOOOOOO
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:12] <cciewu> i just went through with this on my production 2.1.2
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:13] <cciewu> trust me
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:25] <cciewu> zenmigrate will fail miserably
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:33] <cciewu> check the forums for more info
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:50] <cciewu> i did this upgrade and then had to downgrade
[06-Aug-2008 15:02:05] <cciewu> the downgrade will break three zen services.
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:07] <duncan> cciewu: doh! glad I asked... is there a way to upgrade a fully populated and customized zen install to 2.2.3?
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:11] * nemo_ is glad he waits for you brave hears to do upgrades first !
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:15] <nemo_> hearts*
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:33] <cciewu> bastards
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:58] <cciewu> i'd probably setup some kind of duplicate of your prod env first
[06-Aug-2008 15:04:02] <cciewu> and do a test with it
[06-Aug-2008 15:04:04] * nemo_ nods
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:27] <cciewu> if you can't i'd setup maybe a smaller env with 2 machines snmp to zen test server
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:38] <cciewu> i know when i upgraded zenhub died and went to heaven
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:53] <cciewu> and nothing i did brought it back
[06-Aug-2008 15:07:21] <duncan> cciewu: are the developers aware of this bug? i'm greping through the forums now for more info
[06-Aug-2008 15:08:36] <cciewu> i'm guessing no because each env is so different
[06-Aug-2008 15:08:45] <cciewu> like i'm running on a remote mysql
[06-Aug-2008 15:10:19] <cciewu> that may not be the answer to why zenmigrate didn't work, but 2.1.2 zenbackup, be aware will kill your tmp directory
[06-Aug-2008 15:10:28] <cciewu> it'll try to get all your perf data into there
[06-Aug-2008 15:11:05] <cciewu> so make sure you have room or am mounting it somewhere else
[06-Aug-2008 15:14:29] <duncan> cciewu: I've run into that issue before, I just told zenbackup to not use the tmp folder and rather to use a folder with much more free space... the issue I'm concerned about is database structure changes..
[06-Aug-2008 15:15:15] <cciewu> did you edit the mysqldump statement in backup.py?
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:10] <cciewu> /duncan yeah i'd investigate whether zenmigrate will actually work first before going down that path
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:43] <duncan> cciewu: well since I'm moving to a different server, I'll have a hot spare =)
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:55] <cciewu> good idea
[06-Aug-2008 15:18:28] <nate187> hey guys, i have a quick question that i can't find an answer for in the docs
[06-Aug-2008 15:19:25] <nate187> I'm making a custom command template, what variable do i need to use to pass an interface's snmp index number?
[06-Aug-2008 15:23:02] <cciewu> you mean OID number?
[06-Aug-2008 15:25:33] <nate187> kinda, the interface index number - what it would tag on the end of the oid
[06-Aug-2008 15:25:52] <duncan> cciewu: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[06-Aug-2008 15:26:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:02] <cciewu> you can probably do a search for it
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:16] <cciewu> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?objectInput=1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5.3&translate=Translate&submitValue=SUBMIT&submitClicked=true
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Cisco SNMP Object Navigator (at tools.cisco.com)
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:47] <cciewu> you'll see cisco's tree and just move on up and change the numbers that you need
[06-Aug-2008 15:29:55] <cciewu> duncan: i know those look easy and are great, but from a person that followed that document it needs to be re-written with a lot of warning and possible death signs
[06-Aug-2008 16:08:16] <C_Kode> How do I monitor a process on a machine other than the Zenoss server?
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:29] <malbon> IoNu|z: hi
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:47] <IoNu|z> good morning
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:58] <malbon> good afternoon.
[06-Aug-2008 16:16:02] <IoNu|z>
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:07] <IoNu|z> i tried to do some templates by7 myself
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:13] <malbon> and?
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:18] <IoNu|z> i copied the original template
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:25] <IoNu|z> renamed it ds1 for example
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:29] <IoNu|z> it took it
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:34] <IoNu|z> but i still don`t see any graphs
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:51] <IoNu|z> so i`m guessing that i need to change some oid`s?
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:57] <IoNu|z> in teh actual template?
[06-Aug-2008 16:18:48] <malbon> well actually you can't have graphs on those interfaces, as there is no performance data in ifMib
[06-Aug-2008 16:20:15] <IoNu|z> so i can`t have graph for the t1?
[06-Aug-2008 16:21:57] <IoNu|z> oh i c there is no ifindex for that
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:06] <IoNu|z> so it can`t check it
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:35] <malbon> indeed.
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:58] <malbon> well there probably is, but I haven't had time to look at the cisco specific mibs yet.
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:20] <IoNu|z> i have it in front of me and there isn`t
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:21] <IoNu|z>
)[06-Aug-2008 16:23:39] <malbon> this change set is useful too as it gets rid of all the problem of the & in the template name http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset/9821
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:46] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Changeset 9821 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:12] <malbon> you have *all* the cisco mibs loaded in your net-snmp?
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:34] <IoNu|z> nice
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:38] <IoNu|z> yes
[06-Aug-2008 16:25:56] <malbon> so I guess your doing a snmpwalk on enterprises to see that?
[06-Aug-2008 16:26:06] <IoNu|z> yes
[06-Aug-2008 16:26:21] <IoNu|z> i have a browser
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:03] <malbon> in windows or linux?
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:37] <IoNu|z> windows
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:59] <malbon> bah!
[06-Aug-2008 16:28:41] <IoNu|z> yeah i know
[06-Aug-2008 16:34:01] <nate187> Anyone know what variable to use in order to pass an interface's index number to a command? something like ${device/ifindex} ?
[06-Aug-2008 16:53:59] <IoNu|z> so malbon that should be it?
[06-Aug-2008 16:55:57] <IoNu|z> i have an another concern...
[06-Aug-2008 16:56:09] <IoNu|z> how do i make it check if the interface goes down?
[06-Aug-2008 17:00:49] <malbon> yeah that's a good question.
[06-Aug-2008 17:00:55] <malbon> you could use syslog
[06-Aug-2008 17:01:26] <IoNu|z> what are you using?
[06-Aug-2008 17:09:02] <malbon> we use snmp and syslog for up-down messages
[06-Aug-2008 17:09:18] <malbon> snmp for stats, and syslog for other stuff.
[06-Aug-2008 18:20:00] <IoNu|z> can you give me some hints on how to config some alarms for up/down?
[06-Aug-2008 18:32:25] <IoNu|z> malbon you still online?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:03] <duncan> whats the default username / password for the stack installer?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:06] <baffle> Is it only me that have problems installing ZenPacks or is this a "gernal" problem?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:12] <baffle> duncan: admin/zenoss I think?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:20] <baffle> general
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:07] <duncan> baffle: thanks...
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:34] <baffle> I.e. the mib_utils .egg is "stuck", can't unisntall. (http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402#23402). I try to install the CiscoIPSLA zenpack, and it complains "ValueError: Not a registered directory: /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/CiscoIPSLA/skins"... Gaaaah..
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:11] <IoNu|z> i have 2 types of interfaces named the same ... ethernetCsmacd
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:15] <IoNu|z> the ethernet
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:20] <IoNu|z> and the vlans....
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:48] <IoNu|z> so how do i make a separate template and make teh vlans use it?
[06-Aug-2008 19:40:17] <locohost> anyone monitor time?
[06-Aug-2008 19:40:23] <locohost> like, to make sure its in sync..
[06-Aug-2008 19:41:02] <IoNu|z> ntp?
[06-Aug-2008 19:41:30] <locohost> yeah, im using ntp. But something to actually check the time on everything and verify that it is in sync
[06-Aug-2008 19:42:25] <duncan> I just have snmpd check local processes I need to monitor with proc, should alert if they are absent
[06-Aug-2008 19:47:12] <BMDan> Okay, what's the Zenoss-y way to handle this? I've got an OID through which I publish a string, which is either "OK" or something else. I want to know if that OID is anything other than "OK". It represents the state of a RAID card, and it's a custom-rolled "pass" script in net-snmp, not something that has a MIB associated with it, so I can't just drop in a MIB from some vendor's website.
[06-Aug-2008 19:55:07] <npmccallum> Does the author of the improved linux zenpack hang out in here?
[06-Aug-2008 20:17:33] <baffle> locohost: No, I don't monitor that, but sounds like a good idea. But how would it work? Something like "if reportedtime <> 1 second from localtime, generate event"?
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:39] <BMDan> Should be (1 second + .5 * ping-reported RTT), no?
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:42] <baffle> BMDan: I was thinking about something simmilar, but more along the lines of "generate a trap from the client when this happens".. But then again, then the alerts are initated from the Client, so you never know if it is polled properly..
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:56] <locohost> yeah, something like that baffle
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:13] <locohost> vms seem to have time issues a lot
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:14] <BMDan> @baffle: Right. I'd much rather do direct polling rather than mess around with traps.
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:14] <__adytum-bot__> BMDan: Error: 'baffle:' is not a valid command.
[06-Aug-2008 20:20:45] <baffle> BMDan: We've started mucking around with modelling etc, but not for those kind of things. Only "solution" I've seen in the forums earlier, is to report "0" if it's OK, and "1" if it's not, and have a graph with treshold.. But that's so ugly I want to cry.
[06-Aug-2008 20:22:55] <baffle> What I'd really like to see, are *small* SNMP servers (that you can proxy requests to via net-snmp) from all major RAID vendors.
[06-Aug-2008 20:23:15] <baffle> Also, someone writing an SNMP->IPMI proxy would really be great too.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:24] <BMDan> baffle: SNMP->IPMI seems easy enough, depending on exactly what you want to expose.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:44] <BMDan> But all I want to do is something that I used to be able to do with a 2-line Bash plugin in Nagios.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:53] <BMDan> I was vaguely under the impression Zenoss could use Nagios plugins...?
[06-Aug-2008 20:31:21] <duncan> my server has a limited amount of space in the /usr tree, so I have a 250gb raid0 partition to use for collecting performance data.. when I create a symbolic link to the perf folder, zenrestore gets rid of the link and tries to use the physical volume which isn't big enough.. argh
[06-Aug-2008 20:32:56] <baffle> BMDan: Yes, you can execute Nagios plugins on the (zenoss) server or on the client (via SSH).
[06-Aug-2008 20:33:05] <baffle> BMDan: So that kinda works.
[06-Aug-2008 20:33:39] <baffle> BMDan: We've written some Nagios-style checks for lots of stuff, actually. But I find it extremly ugly to allow SSH to the server + storing the password in ZenOss.
[06-Aug-2008 20:34:11] <baffle> duncan: Mount it there instead?
[06-Aug-2008 20:37:19] <baffle> BMDan: Well, sure, you can do something like "If I get polled on this OID, run ipmitool <some sensor> | awk | sed | cut".. But I want a small snmp-deamon/proxy that will poll all sensors, and generate a nice tree that fits a standard MIB (standard as in "IPMI.mib" or something).. And wich will poll all the interesting values on regular intervals and pushing them to a table, so that you don't have to do the poll when you get an SNMP GET; ipmi is dead slo
[06-Aug-2008 20:46:34] <BMDan> baffle: w/r/t Nagios-style checks, all I want is to wrap snmpget with an "if [ $(snmpget ...) == "OK" ]; then exit 0; else exit 1; fi
[06-Aug-2008 20:46:57] <BMDan> baffle: No ssh'ing involved.
[06-Aug-2008 20:48:27] <duncan> baffle: good one, man.. I suck at linux today lol
[06-Aug-2008 20:52:22] <baffle> BMDan: Well, write a Nagios plugin that does the snmpget, then.
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[07-Aug-2008 01:33:46] <crashdummyMCH> is it possible to set up an event when a new device is "auto-discovered"?
[07-Aug-2008 01:51:21] <IoNu|z> you mean setting the device for an template?
[07-Aug-2008 01:51:22] <IoNu|z> or?
[07-Aug-2008 01:56:38] <crashdummyMCH> no once a device is "auto-discovered" I would like to create an event to send an email
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[07-Aug-2008 05:10:11] <mistat> Anyone alive?
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:23] <mistat> On the dashboard, I'm seeing some errors for Zenoss Issues
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:30] <mistat> server zenhub -36576
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:36] <mistat> server zenmodeler -36591
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:44] <mistat> server zenactions -36532
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:50] <mistat> server zenstatus -36535
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:56] <mistat> Can anyone advise what this means?
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[07-Aug-2008 13:02:49] <C_Kode> Why do processes just disappear off the OS Process list?
[07-Aug-2008 13:04:37] <C_Kode> While I like Zenoss, it has to many issues. Installing a ZenPack is pretty much a prelude to errors.
[07-Aug-2008 13:40:58] nate is now known as nate187
[07-Aug-2008 15:17:59] <garn32> I have some Juniper SA-4000 that i am attempting to monitor with Zenoss 2.1.3 I have added the mib, created the datapoints, graphs, and verified that the box running zenoss is able to access the devices in question via snmp but zenoss is telling me:
[07-Aug-2008 15:18:19] <garn32> XXXXXXXXX|iveConcurrentUsers|/Perf/Snmp||2|Error reading value for \"iveConcurrentUsers\" on XXXXXXXXX (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.12532.12 is bad)
[07-Aug-2008 15:19:09] <C_Kode> Im no Zenoss master, but are you using the correct snmp version?
[07-Aug-2008 15:19:30] <garn32> pertty sure sure both are running v2c
[07-Aug-2008 15:20:00] <C_Kode> Does everything look ok when you call snmpwalk with -v 2c?
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:35] <garn32> I just realized that i forgot to add the .0 to the end of the OID in zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:46] <C_Kode> Great.
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:52] <C_Kode> Hopefully that fixed your issue
[07-Aug-2008 15:23:48] <nate187> Where would I find where the <body> tag is being generated on pages? in order to add a javascript onload attribute
[07-Aug-2008 15:28:35] <shyru> hi all!
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:05] <shyru> anybody here!
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:13] <C_Kode> Nope
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:32] <garn32> not at all
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:56] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:36] <shyru> anybody know how to migrate from zenoss 2.13 to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:54] <C_Kode> I think there is documentation about it
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:58] <C_Kode> On their website
[07-Aug-2008 15:32:29] <shyru> C_Kode, yeah i read, but its does not work for me :S
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:03] <C_Kode> Sorry. I know nothing about it, but if you ask I might magically know something that could help
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:35] <shyru> thanks
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:44] <C_Kode> Though I must say. I've been to this channel several times and have never received replies to problems I've had.
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:58] <C_Kode> Very dead channel
[07-Aug-2008 15:34:40] <shyru> C_Kode, uhhh
[07-Aug-2008 15:44:15] <shyru> C_Kode, i have 2 servers, rukia box had zenoss 2.1.3 and shinigami box had 2.2.3, but i need to shut off rukia and wake up shinigami like production, but rukia had all conf and i need to migrate conf to rukia from shinigami.
[07-Aug-2008 15:45:04] <shyru> do you understand me? Well i think, if i update rukia and restore her conf to shinigami box.
[07-Aug-2008 15:46:18] <SEJeff> Are you doing this on redhat/centos?
[07-Aug-2008 15:46:41] <shyru> SEJeff, centos
[07-Aug-2008 15:47:45] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[07-Aug-2008 15:47:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 15:48:20] <shyru>
thanks SEJeff i'm reading it![07-Aug-2008 15:48:34] <SEJeff> Basicly just make sure zenoss is running and install the new rpms
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:04] <SEJeff> There is a zenmigrate.py script if you were using the svn or installing zenoss from source
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:09] <SEJeff> The rpms should do that for you thought
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:26] <shyru> ok!
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:38] <shyru> let me check SEJeff!!!
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:39] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 16:18:38] <ToM-> Evening
[07-Aug-2008 16:20:12] <ToM-> I'd like to ask how is the Zenoss Agent progressing? As I don't want to loose any performance data or events even when the network is down. So a agent on target machines is needed to cache all the data zenoss wants to monitor
[07-Aug-2008 16:39:57] <jb> is anyone experiencing gaps in their graphs after upgrading to 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 16:59:29] <SEJeff> jb, Losing data in graphs is generally caused by system bottlenecks.
[07-Aug-2008 16:59:44] <SEJeff> jb, I've been tuning zenoss quite a bit and could help you with this if you are interested
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:44] <jb> well
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:48] <jb> the system is not under any stress at all
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:51] <jb> no iowait
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:56] <jb> no heavy cpu load
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:16] <jb> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:16] <jb> 0.50 0.00 0.50 0.00 0.00 99.00
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:21] <jb> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:22] <jb> 2.50 0.00 6.00 0.00 0.00 91.50
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:51] <SEJeff> With 1 second polling, I was seeing low io wait, <= 5 % with an 8 disk raid 10
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:56] <SEJeff> hmmm that looks pretty nice
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:04] <SEJeff> So could it be the network perhaps?
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:23] <SEJeff> Also, depending on how aggressively you are polling or how busy the devices are, some devices will drop snmp data
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:29] <SEJeff> s/data/requests/
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:17] <jb> hrm, well it worked fine with 2.2.0
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:23] <jb> no additional devices added with 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:25] <SEJeff> We noticed that foundry switches would drop snmp requests when they were overloaded
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:59] <jb> hm, when you run zenperfsnmp from the CLI, does it exit normally?
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:02] <jb> i notice that it hangs
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:14] <SEJeff> Perhaps you should strace it and see what it is blocking on
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:24] <SEJeff> Just do something like this:
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:37] <SEJeff> strace -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:57] <SEJeff> It will run a lot slower under strace just so you know
[07-Aug-2008 17:07:45] <jb> ok yeah thats the problem
[07-Aug-2008 17:07:51] <jb> it doesn't stop like that on my old box.
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:45] <SEJeff> Exactly why you should strace it
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:54] <SEJeff> Because you can tail the log and see where it is hanging
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:56] <jb> yep, doing that now.
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:00] <SEJeff> Probably on a poll, or select
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:08] <SEJeff> My guess is a select waiting for io. Maybe network?
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:21] <jb> i doubt it, but we will see
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:43] <SEJeff> Alright
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:00] <SEJeff> If you are ok with doing it, pastebin the strace log
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:06] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:10] <jb> its running now..
[07-Aug-2008 17:11:40] <jb> yeah it hangs periodically
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:27] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094894
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:32] <jb> theres an example..
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1094894 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:38] <jb> it was stuck there for about a minute
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:09] <SEJeff> The select... exactly. Waiting on a socket probably. Lets look
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:30] <jb> yep, everytime it stalls, its on a SELECT
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:54] <SEJeff> Thats common
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:02] <jb> how would you further diagnose it
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:02] <SEJeff> Ok so can you pastebin the whole thing?
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:07] <jb> not done yet
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:09] <jb> its gonna be quite large
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:23] <SEJeff> Line 206: 21708 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {86, 492990}
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:31] <SEJeff> Ok how about this
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:35] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:39] <SEJeff> break out of that and rm strace.log
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:49] <jb> K
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:05] <SEJeff> Then try this
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:15] <SEJeff> strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:26] <SEJeff> Then let it go to the first time it hangs and then break out
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:30] <SEJeff> pastebin that log
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:31] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:42] <SEJeff> In the previous one I couldn't see what file descriptor it was hanging on
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:02] <SEJeff> the select said fd 5, but you didn't include enough of the log to see what fd 5 was. Make sense?
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:18] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:42] <SEJeff> Just "man select" to see how it is being called. All of those functions have man pages
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:43] <BMDan> Just grep the strace: grep -E 'open.*= 5$'
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:14] <SEJeff> BMDan, I think it is a socket, not a file. We'll find out in a minute
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:15] <BMDan> Actually FD 5 is the notify FD there.
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:23] <SEJeff> You're right
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:37] <BMDan> You probably want 3 and 4.
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:00] <BMDan> I've never seen the [3 4] syntax in strace before; is that how it represents arrays?
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:05] <SEJeff> jb, You can also find out what those fds are with lsof while the process is running
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:09] <BMDan> well, not technically "arrays"...
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:10] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yup
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:21] <BMDan> struct fd_set *readfds
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:31] * BMDan slinks back into his corner.
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:35] <jb> ok hm
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:39] <SEJeff> heh
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:05] <SEJeff> You could also freeze the process while it is running and beat on it with lsof to see what it is doing
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:15] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094899
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:17] <SEJeff> With that + strace you should be able to mostly reverse engineer what is happening
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:19] <jb> it was stuck here for a bit..
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:24] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1094899 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:42] <SEJeff> Is it still running?
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:45] <jb> yes
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:46] <SEJeff> If so CTRL Z
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:50] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:53] <SEJeff> That freezes the process
[07-Aug-2008 17:21:28] <SEJeff> "ps -efH" to show a treeview of the process table. Then find the strace and the python instance with zenperfsnmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:21:51] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:09] <SEJeff> hmmmm can you paste the entire log please?
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:32] <jb> its 19MB
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:46] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:47] <SEJeff> Ok nevermind
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:51] <jb> i can if you would like?
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:58] <SEJeff> Ok here is what I'd like you to do
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:04] <BMDan> Or ls -l /proc/$(pidof <processname>)/fd
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:18] <SEJeff> lsof hides that all from you though
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:20] <BMDan> Easier than lsof, and gives you the fd numbers (not sure if lsof does that, does it?)
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:58] <SEJeff> BMDan, yes it does
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:36] <SEJeff> Shameless plug to a blog I wrote on lsof: http://digitalprognosis.com/blog/2008/02/14/troubleshooting-running-systems-with-lsof/
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Troubleshooting running systems with lsof - Open Source Awareness (at digitalprognosis.com)
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:52] <SEJeff> Look towards the bottom of the lsof of init
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:06] <SEJeff> init 1 root 10u FIFO 0,13 1108 /dev/initctl
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:17] <SEJeff> It has /dev/initctl open at fd10
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:55] <BMDan> Bah, but I can't budge around in /proc if I use a fancy-schmancy tool like lsof, now can I?
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:16] <SEJeff> BMDan, And notice the very last trick which is a poor mans lsof in that blog posting
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:17] <BMDan> Back in mah day, we loaded a kernel module if we wanted to see open descriptors. And we liked it!
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:24] <SEJeff> awk '/\//{print $NF}' /proc/1/maps | sort -u
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:50] <SEJeff> And wrote binary straight to stdin, we know
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:00] <SEJeff> jb, So anyways, here is the gameplan...
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:25] <SEJeff> Run strace until it hangs. Since it is hanging on select, it is waiting on io somewhere
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:33] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:34] <SEJeff> As soon as it hangs, CTRL Z to freeze the process
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:51] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:53] <jb> did that
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:58] <jb> 22880 12:27:24 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {234, 888653}
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:00] <SEJeff> Then you can find the pid and ls -l /proc/<pid>/fd or lsof -p <pid>
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:20] <jb> the pid of zenperfsnmp?
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:26] <SEJeff> We are trying to find out what fd 3 and fd4 are. BMDan is just showing the old peopel way to do it
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:34] <SEJeff> jb the pid of what is being strace'd
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:38] <BMDan> Is it bas that I can type this off the top of my head? /bin/echo -e '\033[1;1H\033[2J' #poor man's clear
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:00] <SEJeff> I don't have 2.2.3 up right now but something in the changelog I recall was switching from python snmp to net-snmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:15] <SEJeff> Thats why we did strace -f, I think it forks off snmpget or snmpwalk and we need to see
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:28] <SEJeff> lol @ BMDan. That is impressive
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:52] <SEJeff> jb, So after zenperfsnmp is frozen, run "ps -efH" to get a tree view process listing
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:57] <BMDan> Last one, I promise: strace -fF might give you even more info, if you're in the mood for pain. Now, lemme see if I can craft some Perl for you...
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:02] <SEJeff> Find zenperfsnmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:12] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yeah, but that is pretty nuts
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:37] <SEJeff> jb, find zenperfsnmp and then see if their are any child processes. Do you see anything? If so, can you paste the output of ps?
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:05] <jb> 22128
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:06] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22127 21687 3 12:16 pts/1 00:00:24 strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22128 22127 1 12:16 pts/1 00:00:13 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22879 21687 11 12:26 pts/1 00:00:28 strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:16] <jb> zenoss 22880 22879 6 12:26 pts/1 00:00:17 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:19] <jb> ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:59] <SEJeff> jb, You compiled this yourself?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:02] <jb> nope
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:08] <jb> stack installer uses /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:20] <SEJeff> uggg. Debian?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:22] <jb> nope
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:24] <jb> cent5
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:29] <SEJeff> Why not use the rpms?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:34] <SEJeff> Much easier to manage that way
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:43] <jb> the stack is the preferred method?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:50] <jb> i did use RPM's, but switched to the Stack installer
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:10] <SEJeff> I don't work for zenoss. From a management perspective rpms are much easier. It doesn't matter though
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:16] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:18] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:30] <SEJeff> Can you paste that in pastebin or something
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:40] <SEJeff> Sorry it is hard to look at in irc with messed up linebreaks
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:55] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:00] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094908
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 1094908 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:12] <jb> hrm.. two straces
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:32] <SEJeff> Ok so you have two
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:35] <SEJeff> Type jobs
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:44] <SEJeff> You probably have two frozen ones, no biggy
[07-Aug-2008 17:35:30] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:35:50] <SEJeff> Kill the top one
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:00] <SEJeff> As the second one likely overwrote the log from the first
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:16] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:57] <SEJeff> then run lsof -p 22880 | less
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:10] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:20] <SEJeff> In the FD column, you are looking for the fds in the second argument in the select statement from the strace
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:24] <SEJeff> Do you understand why we are doing this?
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:48] <jb> to match the FDs
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:52] <jb> and see what that FD was doing
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:55] <jb> at the time that it hung?
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:57] <SEJeff> ok good
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:11] <jb> 22880 12:27:24 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {234, 888653}
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:12] <SEJeff> Well you froze it at the exact time it hung, so it should be in the same state
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:12] <SEJeff> Yes
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:18] <SEJeff> So fd3 and fd4
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:37] <jb> .python.b 22880 zenoss 3u IPv4 55106070 TCP localhost.localdomain:36961->localhost.localdomain:8789 (ESTABLISHED)
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:37] <jb> .python.b 22880 zenoss 4r FIFO 0,6 55106060 pipe
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:41] <jb> i think thats it?
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:02] <SEJeff> Ok that is 3, what about 4
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:10] <SEJeff> Oh wait, yeah that is it
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:53] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:44] <jb> so its TCP related
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:49] <jb> that one anyways
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:50] <SEJeff> Yup
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:57] <SEJeff> Likely something zenoss internal
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:58] <jb> but its connecting to its self?
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:59] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:16] <SEJeff> Might be something like zenperfsnmp talking to zenhub or something like that
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:25] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:27] <SEJeff> now look through $ZENHOME/logs and see if you can find anything crazy
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:32] <jb> will do
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:32] <SEJeff> This might take some time to track down
[07-Aug-2008 17:47:56] <SEJeff> Can you do: ps -efH | egrep '[2]2880'
[07-Aug-2008 17:48:17] <SEJeff> It will probably be zenperfsnmp, but just it might not be
[07-Aug-2008 17:49:06] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~$ ps -efH | egrep '[2]2880'
[07-Aug-2008 17:49:06] <jb> zenoss 22880 22879 1 12:26 pts/1 00:00:17 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:50:01] <SEJeff> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:50:41] <SEJeff> hmmmmm. This is a zenoss internal issue. You should probably file a bug and / or shoot an email to the list
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:06] <BMDan> If you attach gdb to the process, you can see the call stack.
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:11] <BMDan> That might illuminate the issue a bit further.
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:38] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yes, but gdb of python is a bit extreme when a zenoss dev should be able to figure it out, right?
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:39] <BMDan> Admittedly, it'll be a call stack rooted in bytecode, but the bytecode comes back out and calls "real" functions, so you'll still be pulling good data.
[07-Aug-2008 17:57:44] <BMDan> SEJeff: *everything* I do is "a bit extreme". There is no systems administration problem that cannot be resolved by the direct application of thermonuclear weaponry.
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:37] <SEJeff> Or a really big hammer
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:49] <BMDan> Old story, but a goodie:
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:58] <BMDan> Large IBM machine was malfunctioning.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:03] <BMDan> On-site developers tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:08] <BMDan> On-site sysadmins tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:15] <BMDan> Contractors tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:30] <SEJeff> all failed /me assumes
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:35] <BMDan> Yep.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:56] <BMDan> Finally, they had to call IBM, even though their support contract had expired. They bought a 1-incident on-site support contract for $10,000.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:11] <BMDan> The IBM guy flew out, listened to each of the groups explain the problem and what they'd done to try to solve it.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:29] <BMDan> Approached the malfunctioning part in question, reared back, and gave it a mighty kick.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:34] <BMDan> The system immediately began working.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:47] <BMDan> He then asked for the check to be sent, and prepared to leave.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:55] <BMDan> The owners stopped him.
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:07] <BMDan> "But all you did is kick the box!" they protested.
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:27] <BMDan> "Yes," he replied. "But you didn't pay me $10,000 to kick the box. You paid me $10,000 to know WHERE to kick the box."
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:46] <SEJeff> Thats why we get paid
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:52] <SEJeff> Do you work for zenoss?
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:11] <BMDan> Nope. We're evaluating Zenoss right now. Gotta say, as compared to Nagios, I'm not impressed thus far.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:20] <SEJeff> How come?
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:31] <BMDan> Lots of extra features, as long as you do *exactly* what the Zenoss developers envisioned you doing.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:47] <BMDan> As soon as you branch outside of that framework, things become obtuse as hell.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:50] <SEJeff> It does things VERY differently. My initial thought was to roll out nagios + cacti and be done with it
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:54] <SEJeff> But you can script it all...
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:59] <SEJeff> zendmd is the holy grail of monitoring
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:01] <BMDan> I don't want to define a MIB just to monitor a single OID.
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:09] <SEJeff> What are you talking about?
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:12] <SEJeff> You dont have to
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:14] <BMDan> I just want to execute a @#($$ snmpget.
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:17] <BMDan> orly?
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:28] <BMDan> Tell me more, I was trying to get this answer yesterday and they told me, "Tough luck."
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:16] <SEJeff> for monitoring or for trending
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:26] <SEJeff> And if you prefer the nagios way, you can call snmpget directly
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:29] <SEJeff> fyi
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:34] <C_Kode> Why do OS Processes that you are moniting just disappear sometimes?
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:18] <BMDan> I just want to know whether a certain OID reads "OK". It's a custom "pass" script from net-snmp's snmpd.conf, so there is no associated MIB, or documentation, or anything else, it's just something I threw together on top of the vendor's RAID controller CLI.
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:47] <SEJeff> Let me guess, MegaCLI
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:54] <nate187> Has anyone tried adding a radar image overlay to the maps?
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:59] <BMDan> SEJeff: ??? No.
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:04] <SEJeff> Ok nvm
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:24] <Nolar> anybody know if remote collectors are avail in Core, or just enterprise edition?
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:25] <SEJeff> You could create a /Cmd/Fail event and have it run the check exactly like you would do in nagios
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:33] <BMDan> SEJeff: Google "tw_bm cacti".
[07-Aug-2008 18:07:55] <SEJeff> gotcha
[07-Aug-2008 18:08:29] <jatindergiri> Hello, I am new zenoss, I installed net-snmp on fedora and zenoss is already picking up all the system status, now I am trying to figure out how to graph bandwidth usage?
[07-Aug-2008 18:10:45] <mrayzenoss> Nolar: you can do remote collectors like this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[07-Aug-2008 18:10:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 18:11:49] <Nolar> mrayzenoss huzzah! thanks
[07-Aug-2008 18:12:15] <mrayzenoss> jatindergiri: Does your router expose bandwidth info via SNMP? That's a way
[07-Aug-2008 18:13:21] <jatindergiri> well it's fedora
[07-Aug-2008 18:15:06] <mrayzenoss> so you want to monitor what exactly?
[07-Aug-2008 18:15:13] <mrayzenoss> current bandwidth usage?
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:07] <jatindergiri> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:17] <jatindergiri> in and out
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:48] <jatindergiri> I guess i can do it from switch , but i was wondering if i could directly form OS
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:53] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, I'm the annoying Jeff guy that emails you. Hi
[07-Aug-2008 18:18:41] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: greetings. I realized I hadn't checked in here enough, there's always too much to do
[07-Aug-2008 18:19:47] <mrayzenoss> jatindergiri: It seems like there should already be a solution for this, you could probably configure your snmpd to expose the information. But the switch is easier
[07-Aug-2008 18:20:42] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: I'm looking for a good answer to why you can't make a Trac account
[07-Aug-2008 18:20:53] <mrayzenoss> that seems dumb, I thought you could
[07-Aug-2008 18:21:50] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, I've asked chet about it also during our enterprise eval
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:12] <SEJeff> They want a shared zenoss user, but that is silly. Did the reason in that email make sense why?
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:14] <mrayzenoss> did he have an answer?
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:25] <mrayzenoss> I agree that the shared Zenoss user is silly
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:33] <SEJeff> It was a fleeting comment made during another problem he did an excellent job fixing
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:43] <SEJeff> Probably just forgot. That guy is overworked
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:48] <mrayzenoss> it's not like we don't know who everyone in the company is
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:54] <mrayzenoss> yeah, Chet's got a new baby
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:05] <SEJeff> Oh wow. Well even moreso
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:17] <mrayzenoss> and he's been given more responsibility recently
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:39] <mrayzenoss> those Client Services guys work hard, I hope Nathaniel says he's enjoying it
[07-Aug-2008 18:25:51] <SEJeff> yeah he is
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:06] <monrad> anyone seen 10g interfaces being reported as 1.410Gbps in 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:44] <monrad> snmp version is v2c
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:53] <mrayzenoss> monrad: yeah, I can't remember if the fix is for 2.2.4
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:59] <mrayzenoss> monrad: there's a ticket somewhere for that
[07-Aug-2008 18:32:31] <monrad> mrayzenoss: thanks
[07-Aug-2008 18:32:48] <monrad> i finally got myself a test server to try stuff on
[07-Aug-2008 18:33:01] <monrad> so now i can test stuff before upgrading
[07-Aug-2008 18:35:02] <MajereDB8> hi, i just wanted to drop by and see if anyone had made any progress on the zenpop3 module. i remember from the last dev chat that it was not a high priority, but it never hurts to ask :-)
[07-Aug-2008 18:36:09] <mrayzenoss> MajereDB8: I don't believe I've seen anything on that
[07-Aug-2008 18:39:20] <MajereDB8> mrayzenoss: i had made a post on the dev board a few weeks ago. pjp13 posted a working fix a while ago for one of the problems i encountered, but it the rest are still up in the air. see here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6677
[07-Aug-2008 18:39:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenpop3 errors - unable to generate e-mail event (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 18:41:36] <monrad> mrayzenoss: is there any plans for rrdtool 1.3 yet?
[07-Aug-2008 18:42:06] <MajereDB8> i'm sure that you all have plenty on your plate, but i'm pretty excited about this program because if combined with the zenackevents module that edahl posted on trac, it would allow me to monitor and acknowledge events via my cell phone
[07-Aug-2008 18:42:55] <mrayzenoss> monrad: I believe it's still listed for 2.3
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:03] <monrad> nice
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:14] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3341
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:23] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3341 (upgrade to new version of RRDtool) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:30] <monrad> at least 4 and 8 gb ram sticks are getting cheap
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:42] <mrayzenoss> monrad: it hasn't been reviewed yet, but I don't know why we wouldn't upgrade
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:20] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, whoa please link me on that one
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:38] <monrad> we found out 4 gb of ram was not enough for monitoring around 1K switches
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:41] <monrad> lots of oids
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:43] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: it's actually not that complicated. most telcos provide smtp to sms gateways
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:32] <MajereDB8> the zenackevents program is on trac - revision 8250. it's just a python program that you can use to acknowledge a given zenoss event. so you can write an event transform to acknowledge an e-mail
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:39] <jb> Ok, sorry had to run out for a bit.
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:51] <MajereDB8> the problem is that zenpop3, which does event transforms upon receiving an e-mail, needs some work.
[07-Aug-2008 18:46:08] <jb> mrayzenoss: hey, did you happen to see the issue that I (and some others have had) with zenperfsnmp?
[07-Aug-2008 18:47:10] <mrayzenoss> jb: possibly. I'm still catching up from vacation. Is it the one about ZenHub stopping monitoring?
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:35] <jb> mrayzenoss: well, it stemmed from me having large gaps in my perfgraphs.. when I run zenperfsnmp it randomly hangs
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:40] <jb> which I assume is making the gaps
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:50] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, You can't do that with evt._action = ...
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:51] <jb> and it hangs on a TCP connection to its self
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:05] <mrayzenoss> jb: thread?
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:09] <mrayzenoss> O
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:20] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:21] <mrayzenoss> I'm looking at 260 unread posts in Zenoss-Users
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:23] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:25] <SEJeff> We did a lot of troubleshooting here on irc
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:29] <jb> im still doing some diagnosing
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:34] <jb> but most of it is on irc, yeah
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:37] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Want me to copy / paste it to you somewhere?
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:45] <jb> there is a thread in the forums though
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:50] <jb> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23452#23452
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:55] <SEJeff> Or are the #zenoss logs from zenoss-logger public?
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:10] <mrayzenoss> the logs usually show up a month late
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:30] <mrayzenoss> another thing to fix on the community website
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:52] <jb> along with the horrendus speed?
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:02] <mrayzenoss> no doubt, it's acting slow
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:04] <telexicon> im considering trying zenoss again, has the stability improved lately?
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:13] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: what can't you do with evt.action? sorry, i'm not following you
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:49] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Why do you need a new daemon. Can't you do something like evt._action = "acknowledged" or something?
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:07] <SEJeff> That isn't exact. I use evt._action = "drop" on a bunch of whitenoise
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:29] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'll get this looked at, I think there was some discussion around it at the bug review this morning
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:36] <jb> ah good
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:40] <jb> im doing more diagnostics now
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:46] <jb> and I will post my results in that thread
[07-Aug-2008 18:53:22] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: oh, sure. zenackevents can acknowledge any event id, which makes it easier.
[07-Aug-2008 18:54:52] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Can you give me an example of how it can do something a normal transform can't? Sorry
[07-Aug-2008 18:54:56] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, http://www.digitalprognosis.com/zenoss-chat-log-with-jb.txt
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:25] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: it's also a way to acknowledge events from the command line. i think that's the main reason he wrote the app, it was just timely when i brought up the point
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:28] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Save that off if you want to look at it. It will be deleted in ~10 minutes
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:43] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Yeah that is a pretty big deal
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> SEJeff: did it again..
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> .python.b 28167 zenoss 3u IPv4 55161055 TCP localhost.localdomain:39052->localhost.localdomain:8789 (ESTABLISHED)
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> .python.b 28167 zenoss 4r FIFO 0,6 55161044 pipe
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:47] <jb> same thing
[07-Aug-2008 18:56:47] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: don't get me wrong, i think you're right. the more elegant solution is to use an event transform. it just makes sense. the main problem for me is that i need to be able to acknowledge events from something that won't have internet access, or at least won't have a graphical web browser
[07-Aug-2008 18:57:12] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, No that is great. I was just curious. I'll likely download and play with that script also
[07-Aug-2008 18:57:30] <SEJeff> jb, It is something internal to ZenOSS. Sorry I couldn't track down the prob farther
[07-Aug-2008 18:59:03] <jb> mrayzenoss: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23460#23460
[07-Aug-2008 18:59:06] <jb> has all the details..
[07-Aug-2008 19:05:37] <mrayzenoss> I've got the developer assigned to support looking at the gaps issue
[07-Aug-2008 19:05:47] <mrayzenoss> he said he's seen it with some Enterprise customers
[07-Aug-2008 19:06:00] <mrayzenoss> if we can find it today or tomorrow, it might make 2.2.4
[07-Aug-2008 19:08:35] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3536#preview
[07-Aug-2008 19:08:37] <jb> ticket created..
[07-Aug-2008 19:08:43] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3536 (Gaps in RRD Graphs because of random zenperfsnmp pauses/halts) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:09:09] <jb> mrayzenoss: thanks
[07-Aug-2008 19:09:56] <mrayzenoss> I'm gonna have to duck out for a bit, Chet and the L3 dev are looking at the issue
[07-Aug-2008 19:10:41] <jb> awesome
[07-Aug-2008 19:10:45] <jb> thanks again
[07-Aug-2008 19:11:00] <mrayzenoss> we're hoping to get 2.2.4 out early next week
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:16] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:23] <mrayzenoss> turns out there's another CS guy working on it, lots of people were on it
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:32] <jb> so im not the first person to report it?
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:50] <mrayzenoss> I'm curious why there was no ticket already
[07-Aug-2008 19:12:59] <mrayzenoss> but yeah, CS was looking at it
[07-Aug-2008 19:13:00] <jb> i just really noticed it today
[07-Aug-2008 19:13:32] <mrayzenoss> the tend to find the problem, fix it for customers and then open a ticket for dev to check it in to the releases
[07-Aug-2008 19:13:44] <mrayzenoss> but no fix yet
[07-Aug-2008 19:16:57] <monrad> its nice that zenping does not block anymore when calculating the ping tree
[07-Aug-2008 19:18:15] <monrad> it is kinda bad when zenping takes more than a few mins to calculate it and not pinging anything
[07-Aug-2008 19:18:35] <ckrough> anymore since what version
[07-Aug-2008 19:18:53] <monrad> 2.2.0 i think
[07-Aug-2008 19:19:01] <monrad> it is moved to zenhub i think
[07-Aug-2008 19:19:07] <ckrough> ah, yeah
[07-Aug-2008 19:19:52] <monrad> i like the idea about the ping tree but with all our core routers with full bgp feed is it kinda a no go
[07-Aug-2008 19:23:14] <C_Kode> Where can I get the current version of Zenoss? Do I need to do this from a command line? I cannot locate it in the GUI
[07-Aug-2008 19:24:16] <mrayzenoss> C_Kode: Settings->Versions
[07-Aug-2008 19:24:28] <C_Kode> Thanks
[07-Aug-2008 19:25:26] <C_Kode> Hmm.. I have disppearing OS Processes. I found this thread http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6669&highlight=process+disappear but someone said 2.2.3 fixed it. I'm running 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 19:25:41] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Disappearing OS Processes (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:26:58] <C_Kode> If I lock the process, it no longer updates the performace graphs
[07-Aug-2008 19:38:00] <mrayzenoss> jb: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23461#23461
[07-Aug-2008 19:38:21] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Gaps in Graphs after upgrading to 2.2.3 (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:39:19] <MajereDB8> mrayzenoss: does zenpatch automatically pull the revision requested from the source repository? that's pretty slick
[07-Aug-2008 19:39:28] <jb> ah I will try that!
[07-Aug-2008 19:40:03] <mrayzenoss> MajereDB8: it's new to me
[07-Aug-2008 19:42:44] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 19:42:45] <monrad> nice feature
[07-Aug-2008 19:42:49] <jb> same problem with the patch
[07-Aug-2008 19:43:09] <jb> (zenpatch is sorta slick tho)
[07-Aug-2008 19:44:57] <monrad> nice i just patched zentrap too
[07-Aug-2008 19:46:01] <MajereDB8> monrad: did it automatically stop/restart and set permissions?
[07-Aug-2008 19:47:05] <MajereDB8> if so that's a pretty decent time saver
[07-Aug-2008 19:47:34] <monrad> it did not stop/restart
[07-Aug-2008 19:47:46] <monrad> but i am running zenbatchload too right now so thats ok
[07-Aug-2008 19:48:04] <monrad> i think permissions are fine as long as i run as the zenoss user
[07-Aug-2008 19:50:44] <monrad> performance with 2.2.3 is much better
[07-Aug-2008 19:52:34] <SEJeff> monrad, Can you elaborate on that a bit? How is perf better?
[07-Aug-2008 19:53:26] <monrad> its mostly with zenperfsnmpd
[07-Aug-2008 19:53:35] <monrad> i think rrdtool uses less ram
[07-Aug-2008 19:54:31] <monrad> right now i am outperforming the production server that has 4 gb of ram and all the rrdfiles on a SAN
[07-Aug-2008 19:54:57] <monrad> with a box with 2 gb of ram and the rrdfiles on normal raid 1 sas hds
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:20] <SEJeff> monrad, mount the volume noatime
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:25] <SEJeff> It does wonders
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:39] <SEJeff> If you look at the graphs a lot, mount /tmp/renderserver as a tmpfs also
[07-Aug-2008 19:55:46] <SEJeff> That makes graph creation virtually instant
[07-Aug-2008 19:56:08] <monrad> SEJeff: it is
[07-Aug-2008 19:56:18] <monrad> ah nice trick
[07-Aug-2008 19:56:37] <monrad> it is mounted with noatime that is
[07-Aug-2008 19:57:20] <SEJeff> What filesystem?
[07-Aug-2008 19:57:32] <SEJeff> If it is ext3, use tune2fs and enable the dir_index option
[07-Aug-2008 19:57:51] <monrad> its xfs
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:03] <monrad> the test one is ext3
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:05] <SEJeff> hmmmmm how does that perform?
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:13] <monrad> not bad
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:22] <SEJeff> I didn't think xfs did really well with small files. it was written for big files
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:38] <monrad> but the SAN performes pretty good
[07-Aug-2008 19:58:45] <SEJeff> Sure
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:05] <monrad> the only real performance problem i ran into is when i cant cache the rrd files in ram anymore
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:10] <jb> hmm
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:18] <SEJeff> We put it on hp servers with 8 sas disks
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:22] <jb> you are setting noatime on the partition with the RRDs?
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:30] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: could you add that tmpfs trick as a tip http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:36] <SEJeff> Yeah sure
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:44] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Tips and Tricks - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 19:59:58] <SEJeff> monrad, Yeah, we have 12GB in our zenoss server
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:01] <SEJeff> For that reason
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:12] <jb> i would need to noatime my entire /usr
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:14] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:27] <SEJeff> Oh you have it in /usr/local
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:35] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:41] <SEJeff> I mounted /opt/zenoss/perf as noatime
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:54] <SEJeff> Made that directory it's own volume on a seperate raid group
[07-Aug-2008 20:00:58] <jb> well i'm not running into io issues anyways right now..
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:17] <jb> i could slice out a new LV for /tmp/renderserver tho
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:23] <jb> that really makes a big difference?
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:47] <monrad> SEJeff: we talked about just using some ramfs for rrd storage
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:59] <SEJeff> monrad, ramfs is block based and fixed size
[07-Aug-2008 20:01:59] <monrad> its not a big loss if we lost a day of them
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:13] <SEJeff> tmpfs is dynamic based on the usage
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:21] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:22] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:23] <mrayzenoss> tmpfs is the shit
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:27] <SEJeff> So long as you have enough ram and know the app won't go crazy, tmpfs is better
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:28] <SEJeff> yup
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:40] <mrayzenoss> I used it for diskless RAM-based point of sales
[07-Aug-2008 20:02:58] <SEJeff> So on that network engineer's desktop, we took graph creation from ~2 minutes ---> 3 seconds
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:12] <monrad> it would be nice to have a disk backed ram fs
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:23] <jb> wow
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:31] <SEJeff> monrad: ramback. daniel phillip posted it to lkml
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:53] <jb> how big did you make your tmpfs for renderserver?
[07-Aug-2008 20:03:58] <SEJeff> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/3/10/16
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:07] <__adytum-bot__> Title: LKML: Daniel Phillips: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet (at lkml.org)
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:13] <SEJeff> jb, tmpfs is dynamic based on usage. You don't set a fixed size
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:19] <SEJeff> you set a fixed size for a ramfs
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:20] <jb> ah
[07-Aug-2008 20:04:42] <SEJeff> rrds are static in size and never grow. Once they are all created you know how much space they will take up
[07-Aug-2008 20:05:00] <jb> so how did you implement it?
[07-Aug-2008 20:05:08] <jb> sorry, never worked with tmpfs
[07-Aug-2008 20:05:43] <jb> tmpfs /tmp/renderserver noatime 0 0 or so in fstab?
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:17] <SEJeff> noatime on a tmpfs isn't going to do a lot
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:27] <SEJeff> the noatime is on the volume that contains /opt/zenoss/perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:36] <jb> oh ok.
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:39] <SEJeff> I actually mount /opt/zenoss/perf on it's own volume with noatime
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:46] <SEJeff> Then mount /tmp/renderserver as a tmpfs
[07-Aug-2008 20:06:52] <SEJeff> Make sense?
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:03] <jb> tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /tmp/renderserver
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:06] <jb> there we go..
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:07] <jb> yep
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:11] <SEJeff> Then /opt is on a raid1 pair
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:23] <jb> how many devices are you monitoring?
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:46] <SEJeff> Not at liberty to discuss my companies environment in super detail
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:50] <SEJeff> Work for a hedge fund
[07-Aug-2008 20:07:53] <jb> ah..
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:04] <ckrough> defaults,noatime,nodiratime on perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:08] <SEJeff> I can discuss the technology that isn't related to our intellectual property
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:15] <ckrough> the noatime made a major difference
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:26] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:26] <SEJeff> ckrough, unless you are using a 2.4 kernel, noatime inferrs nodiratime
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:33] <jb> im going to create a new partition for 'perf'
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:47] <SEJeff> jb, You will notice a big perf increase
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:50] <ckrough> SEJeff: ah, didnt know. thanks
[07-Aug-2008 20:08:57] <SEJeff> ckrough, no prob
[07-Aug-2008 20:09:17] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, will try to add a "speeding up zenoss" tip later today
[07-Aug-2008 20:09:57] <mrayzenoss> thanks
[07-Aug-2008 20:10:04] <monrad> i should use more time on zenoss but its not my primary work function, and there is lots of work to do on the network
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:02] <monrad> but we moved to zenoss because its more snmp friendly than nagios and easyer to manage than the nagios/cacti combo we used before
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:25] <monrad> jb: how big an setup do you have? number of units polled?
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:31] <monrad> we do around 1500 right now
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:48] <jb> only around ~105-110 right now
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:49] <monrad> mostly switches
[07-Aug-2008 20:11:52] <jb> mostly servers
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:08] <jb> our windows environment is monitored using MOM
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:14] <jb> we only use zen for AIX/Linux
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:36] <SEJeff> jb, monitor your windows environment with zenoss and then show them the nice graphs
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:50] <jb> well, i do monitor the windows stuff that I am responsible for
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:50] <SEJeff> Anything you can get through the performance monitor on windows, you can get graphed in zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 20:12:52] <jb> its actually ironic
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:00] <monrad> i think we have around 100-200 servers too
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:02] <jb> i am monitoring our solarwinds windows boxes with zen
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:09] <SEJeff> Yes that is funny
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:15] <jb> we use solarwinds for all network devices..
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:18] <jb> ~2000
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:29] <SEJeff> ok so you're a small shop ;-)
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:38] <jb> not THAT small
[07-Aug-2008 20:13:52] <monrad> jb: what do you do?
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:06] <jb> in the book/education industry..
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:18] <monrad> we are a medium size isp (well medium sized for an danish isp)
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:30] <jb> we have ~900 locations thru out the USA, and our headquarters are in Chicago..
[07-Aug-2008 20:14:53] <jb> SEJeff: so is your "perf" ext3?
[07-Aug-2008 20:15:23] <SEJeff> jb, yes, I've had way way too many bad experiences with reiserfs and ext3 has always worked
[07-Aug-2008 20:15:30] <jb> yeah i agree
[07-Aug-2008 20:15:34] <SEJeff> too many non-recoverable errors on reiser
[07-Aug-2008 20:16:06] <ckrough> are you using local storage or san SEJeff
[07-Aug-2008 20:16:13] <jb> local here for now..
[07-Aug-2008 20:16:31] <ckrough> we went san then back to local for performance reasons
[07-Aug-2008 20:17:35] <SEJeff> ckrough, Local storage
[07-Aug-2008 20:17:56] <SEJeff> 2 disk raid1 for the os and most of zenoss. 6 disk raid 10 for /opt/zenoss/perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:18:29] <SEJeff> Huge waste of disk space, but it works really well
[07-Aug-2008 20:18:41] <SEJeff> We got 12GB of ram though. That is the key is that ton of ram
[07-Aug-2008 20:18:59] <monrad> yeah raid 10 performes pretty nice
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:02] <jb> ./dev/mapper/vg01-perflv
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:02] <jb> 9.9G 153M 9.2G 2% /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/perf
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:03] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:05] <jb> there we go..
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:08] <jb> noatime set on that
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:31] <SEJeff> now just "iostat 1" when zenoss is writing to it and watch how much better it is
[07-Aug-2008 20:19:38] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:02] <SEJeff> monrad, We do 1 second snmp polling on our network devices
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:02] <ckrough> SEJeff: same exact as us, except we put all of /opt/zenoss on the 1+0, and we are running 32g ram
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:11] <monrad> 1 second?
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:12] <monrad> damn
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:14] <ckrough> ouch
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:15] <SEJeff> ckrough, Oh that must be great
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:30] <ckrough> it's works well
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:31] <SEJeff> ckrough, Yeah coming up with the right RRA settings to create the rrds was a pain
[07-Aug-2008 20:20:54] <SEJeff> ckrough, I considered all of zenoss on the raid 10 but didn't like that idea
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:04] <jb> im all RAID5 here..
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:21] <monrad> i am trying to write an sflow parser and with sflow counter packets coming each 20. sec from each interface should be enough
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:28] <ckrough> We went as fast as 30s but the disk I/O was too much. may be time to try it again now that the hw is beefed up more
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:28] <SEJeff> raid5 should be avoided if you have enough disks for 1+0
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:41] <ckrough> jb: 5 will kill you on the perf mount
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:47] <monrad> most of our ports are end user ports so no need to poll that much data
[07-Aug-2008 20:21:51] <SEJeff> ckrough, Take a look at distributed collectors
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:00] <ckrough> there is a lot of overhead on writes, which is where most of your IOwait is going to come from
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:00] <jb> yeah, i know..
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:05] <jb> but IO is not a problem for me now
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:08] <SEJeff> yup
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:15] <jb> i will rebuild a 1+0/10 when it does..
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:22] <ckrough> SEJeff: yeah, we are distributed
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:29] <jb> are you guys runing core?
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:32] <ckrough> ent
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:34] <SEJeff> One of our requirements for Zenoss was that we could do 1second polling on all ports of our switches.
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:39] <SEJeff> ent and core
[07-Aug-2008 20:22:51] <SEJeff> brb, meeting
[07-Aug-2008 20:23:15] <ckrough> running 20 boxes for it now.
[07-Aug-2008 20:23:34] <monrad> we use core
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:04] <monrad> we are trying to make a profit soo expenses is kinda frowned upon
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:25] <monrad> we are still a bit in the red but its much closer than it has been
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:33] <ckrough> whats your business
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:42] <jb> actually i think my rrd renders are slower now
[07-Aug-2008 20:24:43] <jb> seriously
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:00] <mrayzenoss> jb: since Chet's patch?
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:05] <jb> no since tmpfs..
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:09] <mrayzenoss> ahh
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:12] <jb> but chet's patch didn't fix my problem
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:15] <ckrough> slower?
[07-Aug-2008 20:25:17] <jb> i replied inthe thread..
[07-Aug-2008 20:26:10] meteoroid__ is now known as meteoroid
[07-Aug-2008 20:26:14] <jb>
[07-Aug-2008 20:27:44] <monrad> ckrough: ISP for appartment complexes and such in dk, we are trying to branch into business customers too
[07-Aug-2008 21:09:03] <SEJeff> jb, You have to be kidding?
[07-Aug-2008 21:09:14] <SEJeff> disks can never be as fast as ram
[07-Aug-2008 21:09:21] <SEJeff> Something else must have changed
[07-Aug-2008 21:12:55] <jb> actually, after testing, it's about the same
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:15] <SEJeff> That just means you have a different bottleneck
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:18] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:26] <jb> i just want my graphs to not have gaps
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:30] <SEJeff> Still blocking select() ?
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:34] <jb> yeh
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:37] <jb> the patch didnt work
[07-Aug-2008 21:13:42] <SEJeff> hmmmmmmm
[07-Aug-2008 21:17:23] <jb> guess i'll just wait for another response from chet
[07-Aug-2008 21:17:42] <jb> as it definetely looks like an internal prblem..
[07-Aug-2008 21:18:41] <SEJeff> Well once we saw it was zenoss <---> zenoss communication that part was apparrent
[07-Aug-2008 21:18:49] <SEJeff> At least these guys are support rockstars
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> SEJeff, i'm try to update my zenoss box (with how to to update) but in the manual show that command: root# conary migrate --interactive
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> zenoss:core-2.2
[07-Aug-2008 21:19:58] <shyru> but conary there isn't!!
[07-Aug-2008 21:20:06] <shyru> any solution?
[07-Aug-2008 21:22:11] <mrayzenoss> shyru: dumb question, this is with the VMware image?
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:09] <shyru> mrayzenoss, noup! my old zenoss is 2.1.x want to update to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:34] <mrayzenoss> the conary command is called from within the VMware installation only
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:41] <mrayzenoss> what version was your 2.1.x?
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:45] <mrayzenoss> source? rpm?
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:48] <shyru> rpm
[07-Aug-2008 21:24:59] <shyru> 2.1.1
[07-Aug-2008 21:25:28] <shyru> sorry 2.1.3
[07-Aug-2008 21:25:45] <shyru> and i was update to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 21:25:57] <mrayzenoss> try this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[07-Aug-2008 21:26:09] <mrayzenoss> with the RPM instructions
[07-Aug-2008 21:26:11] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 21:26:28] <mrayzenoss> for EL4 or EL5 (works for CentOS as well)
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:13] <shyru> mrayzenoss, thats right but i stopped in this steps:
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> If you would like to upgrade to the 2.1.x version of Zenoss,
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> run this command:
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> root# conary migrate --interactive
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> group-zenoss=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc=zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:30] <shyru> zenoss:core
[07-Aug-2008 21:27:55] <shyru> but conary does not exist well there isn't!
[07-Aug-2008 21:28:05] <mrayzenoss> shyru: yeah, that's in the ** Zenoss Virtual Appliance Image section
[07-Aug-2008 21:28:33] <mrayzenoss> the section ** EL4 or EL5 RPMs should cover you
[07-Aug-2008 21:29:33] <shyru> ups! let me see!
[07-Aug-2008 21:30:39] <shyru> oh my god is it true!
[07-Aug-2008 21:30:53] <jb> be very careful going from 2.1.x -> 2.2
[07-Aug-2008 21:31:02] <jb> make sure you have good backups
[07-Aug-2008 21:31:24] <shyru> mrayzenoss, but after to update my objects does not there!
[07-Aug-2008 21:31:43] <shyru> jb thanks i made backup
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:28] <shyru> damm!
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:37] <shyru> After install is complete migrate your data as the zenoss user:
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:37] <shyru> root# su - zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:37] <shyru> zenoss$ zenmigrate
[07-Aug-2008 21:33:39] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 21:36:25] <SEJeff> shyru, Did that fix it for you?
[07-Aug-2008 21:44:54] <npmccallum> SEJeff: sup?
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:07] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Hey man
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:29] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Working on getting network stats on Linux with zenoss. Will be a snmp master before the end of this
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:36] <SEJeff> not by choice
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:48] <npmccallum> please document the steps, etc
[07-Aug-2008 21:45:54] <npmccallum> so it can be merged...
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:19] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, and I chatted for a bit in priv. Dont worry
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:33] <npmccallum> in priv, really?
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:37] <npmccallum> did he hit on you?
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:42] <npmccallum> he does that sometimes...
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:45] <SEJeff> Only 3 times
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:51] * mrayzenoss sighs
[07-Aug-2008 21:46:59] <npmccallum> we usually just try to laugh it off
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:12] <npmccallum> but I'm seeing a therapist now
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:13] <mrayzenoss> Glad this will be up on the IRC log next month
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:16] <npmccallum>
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:19] <SEJeff> awesome
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:20] <jb> hah
[07-Aug-2008 21:47:43] <SEJeff> sed -i '/npmccallum/d' zenoss-irc-$(date %Y%m%d).log
[07-Aug-2008 21:48:18] <npmccallum> SEJeff: I'd just do it for all dates... I don't have much to contribute
[07-Aug-2008 21:48:32] <SEJeff> Yeah, you work for them. Gross
[07-Aug-2008 21:48:40] <npmccallum> other than uber-1337 awk
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:04] <SEJeff> You should seriously send that back to the original check_tcpstats author
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:13] <SEJeff> Besides blowing his mind... It is much better. in every way
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:33] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: did you see my new check_tcpstats?
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:48] <jb> whats new about it?
[07-Aug-2008 21:49:49] <SEJeff> It is this awesome 1 liner. No seriously.
[07-Aug-2008 21:51:05] <npmccallum> where is that link to the original?
[07-Aug-2008 21:51:11] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 21:51:45] <SEJeff> http://faculty.adams.edu/~rbsmith/zenpacks/check_tcpstats
[07-Aug-2008 21:52:17] <SEJeff> http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/scripts/check_tcpstats here is a whitespaced version of your 1liner npmccallum
[07-Aug-2008 21:53:25] <SEJeff> that mad argv checking was all me
[07-Aug-2008 21:53:45] <npmccallum> you know I always leave you to fill in my arg checking
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:08] <SEJeff> Someone has to clean up after your mess. Kids these days...
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:20] <jb> Yawn.. I'm out for the day.
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:23] <jb> Goodnight.
[07-Aug-2008 21:54:25] <npmccallum> and no, I won't turn down my music
[07-Aug-2008 22:03:26] <mrayzenoss> sorry, ducked out to talk about fixing the ZenPerfSNMP issue
[07-Aug-2008 22:04:04] <mrayzenoss> npmccallum: didn't see your update
[07-Aug-2008 22:04:25] <npmccallum> SEJeff posted the link above
[07-Aug-2008 22:04:39] <npmccallum> it basically replaces a hacky script with a one-liner awk
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:01] <SEJeff> And in benchmarking is consistently faster + has no temp file
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:15] <mrayzenoss> very cool
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:18] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: SEJeff is going to work on some updates to linux networking stuff
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:26] <npmccallum> which I think could be good
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:33] <SEJeff> If they would be integrated into core...
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:35] <mrayzenoss> so he'll contribute an updated ImprovedLinux ZenPack?
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:40] <SEJeff> No point in packaging them up if they won't
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:44] <mrayzenoss> npmccallum's working on that
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:54] <SEJeff> Alright
[07-Aug-2008 22:05:59] <npmccallum> I don't think a ZenPack is the best medium for it though
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:00] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: if we get it in now, people can use it with 2.2.x
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:03] <npmccallum> I could be wrong
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:08] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, True
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:14] <SEJeff> But this should be out of the box functionality
[07-Aug-2008 22:06:23] <npmccallum> since it is a built in template, doing it as a migrate script is the "right way"
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:03] <npmccallum> ZenPacks that override built-in objects should be forbidden and beaten with a stick
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:16] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Oh you mean like Improved Linux?
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:17] <npmccallum> because they break stuff...
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:36] <SEJeff> The one that caused so much trouble until you were a rockstar and fixed
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:49] <mrayzenoss> there may be others that do that, somebody should check them all when they have lots of free time
[07-Aug-2008 22:07:50] <SEJeff> npmccallum, I was considering creating a template named IpInterface under /Devices/Server/Linux
[07-Aug-2008 22:08:04] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Sounds like something for a script to do
[07-Aug-2008 22:09:05] <shyru> SEJeff,
[07-Aug-2008 22:09:35] <shyru> SEJeff, the manual help me to upgrade my zenoss box
[07-Aug-2008 22:09:50] <shyru> thanks! SEJeff thanks mrayzenoss
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:03] <SEJeff> shyru, Awesome! You're welcome
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:10] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:28] <mrayzenoss> good to hear it
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:29] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Based on our conversation, that would apply to the Linux server's because they already have the IpInterface class. Right?
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:37] <SEJeff> *servers
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:50] <npmccallum> Is there no IpInterface class higher up the chain?
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:52] <shyru>
[07-Aug-2008 22:10:57] <npmccallum> s/class/template/
[07-Aug-2008 22:11:34] <SEJeff> But zenoss applies things at the lowest level possible
[07-Aug-2008 22:11:50] <SEJeff> So if there is an IpInterface template lower, it would apply
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:19] <npmccallum> right
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:25] <npmccallum> you would be overriding the lower object
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:28] <SEJeff> And there are no templates named IpInterface anywhere
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:53] <npmccallum> BTW
[07-Aug-2008 22:12:56] <SEJeff> Hence the reason I wanted to use it. To prevent the nightmare when removing it (if installed as a zenpack)
[07-Aug-2008 22:13:28] <npmccallum> I would think that the snmpnetstat stuff should go in an IpInterface templates AND specify the "-CI $if" option
[07-Aug-2008 22:13:46] <npmccallum> that way you get the netstat on a per-interface basis...
[07-Aug-2008 22:14:27] <npmccallum> I was also thinking that it could go under process monitoring
[07-Aug-2008 22:14:51] <SEJeff> npmccallum, I think it should be a python script that is part of zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 22:15:05] <SEJeff> and berid check_tcpstats altogether
[07-Aug-2008 22:15:31] <SEJeff> Sorry my engrish is so horrible today
[07-Aug-2008 22:16:14] <SEJeff> and with "-CI $if", how would you have it dynamically populate that? What if you have some servers with 4 nics and some with 2 or even 1?
[07-Aug-2008 22:16:40] <npmccallum> Device -> OS -> Interfaces -> $IF -> graphs
[07-Aug-2008 22:17:55] <SEJeff> Never even knew about that nathaniel
[07-Aug-2008 22:18:05] <SEJeff> Thats exactly what I was going to put in the perf tab
[07-Aug-2008 22:18:20] <SEJeff> Why aren't those under perf though?
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:37] <npmccallum> because they aren't related to the device but to the device's interfaces
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:42] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 has anyone run into this or what?
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 22:19:53] <daMaestro> is there a patch? or? ?????
[07-Aug-2008 22:20:19] <npmccallum> perf tab is NOT a dumping ground for graphs
[07-Aug-2008 22:20:35] <npmccallum> it contains performace graphs that are related only to the device as a whole
[07-Aug-2008 22:20:59] <npmccallum> thus, it only contains graphs in the Device template
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:24] <npmccallum> graphs in the IpInterface template will show up in the interface's performance graphs, etc
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:33] <npmccallum> same with filesystems, etc
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:35] <SEJeff> Gotcha
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:41] <monrad> is there any easy way to get snmp indexed stats out from like routers and stuff
[07-Aug-2008 22:21:53] <monrad> fans, cpus, temperatures ..
[07-Aug-2008 22:22:08] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Wow you just taught me something new about zenoss again. Thanks
[07-Aug-2008 22:22:39] <npmccallum> monrad: I'm not sure what you mean by "snmp indexed stats"
[07-Aug-2008 22:23:04] <monrad> 2 secs let me see if can can get an example
[07-Aug-2008 22:25:46] <monrad> http://pastebin.com/m292b1d04 <- like FOUNDRY-SN-AGENT-MIB::snAgentTempValue 1 to 4 is the four temp sensors on the first line card
[07-Aug-2008 22:26:30] <monrad> but different cards have different amount of sensors so i cant make a hardcoded template for it
[07-Aug-2008 22:27:29] <npmccallum> right
[07-Aug-2008 22:27:34] <npmccallum> you need a model extending zenpack
[07-Aug-2008 22:28:09] <npmccallum> basically, it subclasses Device and adds relationships to these sensors
[07-Aug-2008 22:28:37] <npmccallum> I think the community Brocade monitor zenpack might do this...
[07-Aug-2008 22:28:56] <monrad> i was just about to ask if there were any
[07-Aug-2008 22:29:08] <monrad> funny, now that brocade have bought foundry
[07-Aug-2008 22:29:37] <npmccallum> basically, there are lots of devices that have arbitrary #'s of inputs
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:17] <npmccallum> they will all follow the same basic pattern
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:24] <monrad> yes
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:27] <npmccallum> though, with slightly varying details of course
[07-Aug-2008 22:30:52] <npmccallum> one of the things that is annoying right now is that there is no way to add new tables to the os or hw tabs
[07-Aug-2008 22:31:23] <npmccallum> so you'll basically have to add a page to the "More" menu
[07-Aug-2008 22:31:44] <npmccallum> I'd like to make it so that we can extend the OS and HW tabs, which is the "right" way
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:08] <monrad> sounds like it
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:30] <monrad> hardware is also pretty underused
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:42] <npmccallum> not really
[07-Aug-2008 22:32:56] <monrad> the hw tab i meant
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:01] <npmccallum> the issue with hardware is that most things that are "hardware" often can be emulated by the OS
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:07] <monrad> on most of my network equipment anyway
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:07] <npmccallum> like network interfaces
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:13] <npmccallum> most are "hardware" so to speak
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:15] <daMaestro> is there anyone left from the devel team?
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:24] * daMaestro missed the 9am (MST) session
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:40] <npmccallum> but there are almost always some "virtual" network interfaces
[07-Aug-2008 22:33:49] <npmccallum> and/or bridges, etc
[07-Aug-2008 22:34:07] <npmccallum> so the table is really under the OS tab
[07-Aug-2008 22:34:52] <monrad> but stuff like fans and temperature could be under HW
[07-Aug-2008 22:34:55] <npmccallum> Filesystems are under the OS tab, but Hard Disks are under the HW tab
[07-Aug-2008 22:35:01] <npmccallum> sure
[07-Aug-2008 22:35:13] <npmccallum> It probably SHOULD be under HW
[07-Aug-2008 22:35:21] <npmccallum> but, ATM, we can't really expand it
[07-Aug-2008 22:36:06] <npmccallum> the brocade zenpack doesn't do it
[07-Aug-2008 22:37:29] <npmccallum> I'm not sure which one would
[07-Aug-2008 22:37:32] <npmccallum> if any
[07-Aug-2008 22:38:21] <monrad> i hope someone does it soon so i can copy it
[07-Aug-2008 22:40:49] <daMaestro> gah. really, does no one else add ip services? or is no one using 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:07] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3416 is the same bug
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:15] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3416 (manual creation of IPService impossible) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:49] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: the session is next week
[07-Aug-2008 22:41:57] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: we're gonna try to do them every 2 weeks
[07-Aug-2008 22:44:18] <mrayzenoss> Not sure what happened with that ticket. Simon only made it a medium
[07-Aug-2008 22:45:55] <daMaestro> i might be more willing to fix stuff like this, if there was some more contact via the tracker
[07-Aug-2008 22:46:28] <daMaestro> i can't imagine any enterprise customers would find this acceptable (which, we would like to become... but i can't get zenoss out of POC with this blocker bug)
[07-Aug-2008 22:49:02] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: I'll raise the issue to see what happened to the ticket.
[07-Aug-2008 22:50:18] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3498 is my ticket
[07-Aug-2008 22:50:25] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3498 (Manually adding IP service dialog lacks fields) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 23:59:03] <crashdummyMCH> is there an event class for when zendisc discovers a new device/adds the device?
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[08-Aug-2008 04:28:00] <mistat> Sorry to ask a potentially stupid question, but is there an "on call" or "rostering" feature for Zenoss? Whereby users who are "on call" are the only ones alerted during After Hours (say 6pm -> 8am) ?
[08-Aug-2008 05:05:17] <mistat> Clear that
[08-Aug-2008 05:05:41] <mistat> is it possible to output the details of whats emailed, to a text file? So we can parse it through our own scripts
[08-Aug-2008 10:45:26] <porkpie> HI guy's I am trying to add a single device to zenoss with a single ip address but I don't see a field for adding the ip address ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:46:14] <nemo_> zenoss uses dns to resolve hosts , but you can add by ip if you want
[08-Aug-2008 10:46:52] <porkpie> nemo_: so instead of the name just add the ip address ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:47:07] <nemo_> i think so, but i use dns
[08-Aug-2008 10:47:16] <porkpie> yeah ...
[08-Aug-2008 10:47:54] <porkpie> nemo_: I am monitor all of our ADSL customers static addresses ... they don't have DNS names
[08-Aug-2008 10:48:15] <nemo_> just discover a network block then
[08-Aug-2008 10:49:58] <porkpie> nemo_: not that easy ... I don't control the static ip allocation and it is done by region so it could cover 10 different blocks
[08-Aug-2008 10:50:17] <nemo_> so add 10 blocks ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:51:00] <nemo_> were you planning to add ip addresses 1 by 1 ?
[08-Aug-2008 10:56:42] <porkpie> nemo_: yes because they are only just being allocate slowly
[08-Aug-2008 12:08:14] <SEJeff> porkpie, Are there ip addresses in those blocks that you don't want to monitor?
[08-Aug-2008 12:08:33] <SEJeff> It might be easy to just scan the network /24 at a time or whatnot and remove the hosts you don't want to monitor
[08-Aug-2008 15:56:04] <IoNu|z> anyone see this error when adding a new device?
[08-Aug-2008 15:56:35] <IoNu|z> finished: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: iteration over non-sequence ]
[08-Aug-2008 16:13:23] <nemo_> hi all
[08-Aug-2008 16:13:40] <nemo_> my users log in via LDAP, all works well ( now at least, my confusion there )
[08-Aug-2008 16:14:24] <nemo_> but until an admin places 1 event view in place, the user cannot add there own event view , its like if theres nothing in the list, the add button isnt shown
[08-Aug-2008 16:14:33] <nemo_> anyone else see this ?
[08-Aug-2008 16:15:49] <IoNu|z> ... i don`t use ldap for zenoss..
[08-Aug-2008 16:21:30] <nemo_> yah i guess most people dont, but there are quite a few quiet lurkers who do
[08-Aug-2008 16:49:11] <IoNu|z> i`m trying to avoid as many problems as i can
[08-Aug-2008 17:21:25] <duncan> I'm trying to upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.2.3 and move to a faster box but I'm having an issue with zenmigrate. I used the stack installer on the new box to install 2.2.3, and then zenrestore to restore the tgz file created on my 2.1.2 box. This succeeded, but then zenmigrate fails with the following error: #
[08-Aug-2008 17:21:25] <duncan> CorruptedDataError: Error reading oid 0x01. Found 'AuthService.interfaces.plugins\nICredential' at 1875808 -- (full output here: http://pastebin.com/m188facae)
[08-Aug-2008 17:21:52] <duncan> is this a known bug, or did I miss a step?
[08-Aug-2008 17:42:55] <duncan> I guess I'll try the forums..
[08-Aug-2008 18:38:45] <ke4qqq> hey guys anyone using Zenoss with RT - and have the tickets auto closing when a resolved message comes in?
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:04] <SEJeff> ke4qqq, I wouldnt think it would be impossible to do that, but what if you mess something up and zenoss and end up with a zillion tickets in rt?
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:18] <SEJeff> It would be tricky to set that up right
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:29] * ke4qqq has around 300 right now
[08-Aug-2008 18:41:54] <ke4qqq> SEJeff: there is this already out there http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/AutoCloseOnNagiosRecoveryMessages
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:07] <__adytum-bot__> Title: AutoCloseOnNagiosRecoveryMessages - RT Wiki (at wiki.bestpractical.com)
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:25] <ke4qqq> so I was hoping someone had done the work already to fix it for Zenoss and I wouldn't have to do any work
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:33] <ke4qqq> ohhh well
[08-Aug-2008 18:42:44] <SEJeff> Looks pretty easy to do with that script
[08-Aug-2008 18:43:04] <ke4qqq> yeah - I think the main reconfig will have to be the alerting string in the subject for Zenoss
[08-Aug-2008 18:43:14] <SEJeff> Yup
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[08-Aug-2008 19:39:29] <shyru> hi all!
[08-Aug-2008 19:40:34] <ckrough> hi
[08-Aug-2008 20:10:04] <ckrough> Internet +1, BMDan 0
[08-Aug-2008 21:55:53] <jiffe98> does an snmp plugin need to be installed to use snmp?
[08-Aug-2008 21:56:53] <kso512> jiffe98: in the client? yes
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:03] <jiffe98> I setup a device to use snmp and its saying "no snmp plugins found" and "using ssh collection device"
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:06] <kso512> jiffe98 which snmp client depends on which OS the client is running...
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:11] <jiffe98> client has snmp enabled and I can snmp walk it
[08-Aug-2008 21:57:25] <kso512> jiffe98: ah, you have to change the plugins...
[08-Aug-2008 21:58:13] <jiffe98> change the plugins?
[08-Aug-2008 21:58:32] <kso512> jiffe98: go to the page for the Device, or its class if you want to change the whole class... then click on the drop-down, and choose More > Collector Plugins
[08-Aug-2008 21:59:03] <kso512> jiffe98: in the page that appears, click Add fields, then drag over the appropriate snmp plugins.
[08-Aug-2008 21:59:23] <kso512> jiffe98: when you're done, hit Save at the bottom, then re-model the device(s)
[08-Aug-2008 22:00:04] <jiffe98> ah ok, I had changed that to uname at the top and removed the others
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[09-Aug-2008 01:29:03] <Guest88967> hello
[09-Aug-2008 01:29:52] <Guest88967> I am new user of zenoss.
[09-Aug-2008 02:50:17] <Guest88967> Hello,
[09-Aug-2008 02:51:04] <Guest88967> Someone makes sence of this error: zen.Zendisc no wmi found for my_host
[09-Aug-2008 02:54:53] <Guest88967> Is there additional packages need to be install on clients before I add them on Zenoss? Your comments is appreciated, thanks!
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[09-Aug-2008 10:19:08] <Guest88967> hello
[09-Aug-2008 10:19:56] <Guest88967> I am not sure if my messenge could be see by others, any body please give a me a reasponse. Thanks!
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[09-Aug-2008 14:04:32] <thrope> hi - I just installed zenoss core, but I can't find anything in the docs about what the initial log in is
[09-Aug-2008 14:05:24] <thrope> got it in the quickstart guide
[09-Aug-2008 15:33:35] <thrope> I just installed zenoss and added a server - it looks really nice, but all the graphs show no data and say "missing rrd file" - is there something else I need to install or will they come witha bit of time?
[09-Aug-2008 15:54:22] <thrope> snmpwalk works fine to the server i'm trying to monitor, but whenever zenoss tries to collect the snmp agent on the server dies
[09-Aug-2008 15:54:32] <thrope> any ideas how I could find more informaiton?
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[10-Aug-2008 22:19:17] <krphop> holy shit
[10-Aug-2008 22:19:39] <krphop> so, just install zenoss on a vm
[10-Aug-2008 22:19:48] <krphop> its using 800MB of ram
[10-Aug-2008 22:20:09] <krphop> is that normal?
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[11-Aug-2008 00:59:37] <meteoroid> krphop: process size is often misreported due to shared memory..
[11-Aug-2008 00:59:45] <meteoroid> but, ah, i can't say for sure about zenoss..
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[11-Aug-2008 04:21:47] <meteoroid> i'm having trouble getting the zenoss rhel5 rpm to work, it seems to expect to be able to connect to mysql and create a database without asking me for any info, and fails to log in to mysql.
[11-Aug-2008 04:21:56] <meteoroid> also there is no zeoctl or zopectl binary in /opt/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 09:03:02] <jane__> testing
[11-Aug-2008 09:07:38] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 11:31:12] <pb1dft_> anyone here?.
[11-Aug-2008 11:31:47] <pb1dft> hello?
[11-Aug-2008 11:51:19] <nemo_> zenoss questions or hellos ?
[11-Aug-2008 11:52:17] <pb1dft> no i have a small question
[11-Aug-2008 11:52:37] <pb1dft> after starting the deamons the webinterface zon't start
[11-Aug-2008 11:52:43] <pb1dft> *won't
[11-Aug-2008 11:53:03] <pb1dft> it does start but dies
[11-Aug-2008 11:53:41] <pb1dft> when i run 'runzope' with args manually it stays running
[11-Aug-2008 11:54:56] <pb1dft> when i run it with 'runzope -X debug-mode=on' i get a Couldn't import Products.Five.Site.metaconfigure, connot import name adapterImplied' error
[11-Aug-2008 11:55:48] <pb1dft> OS is RHEL5.2 package installed through yum repos
[11-Aug-2008 11:59:35] <nemo_> i got the same problem with zenhub
[11-Aug-2008 11:59:42] <nemo_> no solution yet ...
[11-Aug-2008 12:00:23] <pb1dft> hmm i thought is was me
[11-Aug-2008 12:00:41] <pb1dft> saw some others in the forums but no solution there either
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:48] <nemo_> [zenoss@monitor05 log]$ grep Five *
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:48] <nemo_> event.log:After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:48] <nemo_> event.log:After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products'
[11-Aug-2008 12:02:58] <nemo_> no idea what Five is, but its in my logs too
[11-Aug-2008 12:05:15] <pb1dft> it requires me start the webdeamon to run manually which is kinda annoying
[11-Aug-2008 12:06:08] <MrTux> nemo_: Five is a backport of zope3 features to zope2
[11-Aug-2008 12:10:17] <pb1dft> now to fix it lol
[11-Aug-2008 12:10:22] <pb1dft> sorry for that
[11-Aug-2008 12:19:43] <nemo_> all fixed now then ?
[11-Aug-2008 12:20:38] <pb1dft> i whish
[11-Aug-2008 12:20:47] <pb1dft> i have no clue to start searching
[11-Aug-2008 13:43:35] <pb1dft> anyone knows how to change the http port
[11-Aug-2008 13:46:39] <Quadro> zope.conf -> fg
[11-Aug-2008 13:46:54] <Quadro> zope.conf -> <http-server>
[11-Aug-2008 13:47:18] <pb1dft> found that but now all other deamons still have 8080 in them,
[11-Aug-2008 13:47:40] <pb1dft> i changed as much as i could find but the alert email still has the wrong url in it
[11-Aug-2008 13:57:44] Tinozaure is now known as _Tino
[11-Aug-2008 14:05:42] <pb1dft> anyone?
[11-Aug-2008 14:24:46] <Spec> I am one!
[11-Aug-2008 14:27:45] <pb1dft>
[11-Aug-2008 14:27:50] <pb1dft> anyone knows how to change the http port
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:00] <pb1dft> zope.conf -> <http-server>
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:04] <pb1dft> found that but now all other deamons still have 8080 in them,
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:13] <pb1dft> i changed as much as i could find but the alert email still has the wrong url in it
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:13] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:15] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:16] <nemo_> anyone uses 'user' defined views in zenoss ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:38] <nemo_> i just keep pasting my stuff back in too ?
[11-Aug-2008 14:28:46] <pb1dft> not yet firts trying to get the damn thing to do what i want
[11-Aug-2008 14:38:16] <jiffe98> anyone know what I might look for if nothing is listening on port 8080 after a reboot?
[11-Aug-2008 14:40:58] <MajereDB8> jiffe98: netstat -lp
[11-Aug-2008 14:41:31] <MajereDB8> that will display all open ports and which daemons are listening on them
[11-Aug-2008 14:54:39] <jiffe99> connection dropped :\
[11-Aug-2008 14:55:19] <jiffe99> after starting it looks like '/usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py...' is listening on port 8080 but not for long
[11-Aug-2008 15:20:41] <jiffe99> I removed all the zec cache files, runzope ends with the error 'ConfigurationError: ('Invalid value for', 'handler', "Couldn't import Products.Five.site.metaconfigure, cannot import name adapterImplied")'
[11-Aug-2008 15:22:17] <jiffe99> running dmd.Devices.reIndex() in zendmd didn't fix for me
[11-Aug-2008 15:25:23] <jiffe99> is this pretty much an rm -rf and reinstall?
[11-Aug-2008 15:25:52] <SEJeff> jiffe99, There are a bunch of internal zope references to port 8080 so if you change that things will break
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:05] <jiffe99> I haven't changed anything
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:09] <SEJeff> I tried adding in an iptables firewall rule so that all requests to port 80 are redirected to 8080
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:27] <jiffe99> it should still be running on 8080
[11-Aug-2008 15:26:47] <jiffe99> it does, after starting zenoss I see something listening on 8080 for a few seconds
[11-Aug-2008 15:27:08] <jiffe99> I am not able to connect to it via web though, even while it is still listening
[11-Aug-2008 15:27:41] <SEJeff> Sorry I don't know what to say
[11-Aug-2008 15:27:55] <jiffe99> rm -rf it is
[11-Aug-2008 15:34:33] <MajereDB8> try deleting $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec
[11-Aug-2008 15:34:56] <pb1dft> jiffe99:
[11-Aug-2008 15:34:56] <jiffe99> I did
[11-Aug-2008 15:35:14] <pb1dft> run runzope as zenuser
[11-Aug-2008 15:36:10] <pb1dft> that will start the webui manually
[11-Aug-2008 15:36:29] <pb1dft> bbl have to driuve home
[11-Aug-2008 16:25:50] <ToM-> Anyone using /devices/server/cmd class and it's templates?
[11-Aug-2008 16:25:56] <ToM-> as I can't get the rrd data to be drawn
[11-Aug-2008 16:27:33] <jiffe99> I just reinstalled
[11-Aug-2008 16:43:04] <jatindergiri> Hello, I need help with naming cisco ports, I added cisco switch and it currently shows all the ports for the switch under OS, I would like to be able to name these port when I click on the port such as 1/1, but there is no option to change the name
[11-Aug-2008 16:43:57] <ToM-> use descriptions on the ports
[11-Aug-2008 16:44:33] <jatindergiri> okay how do i change description ?
[11-Aug-2008 16:44:43] <jatindergiri> sorry i don't see any option to add description eithe r
[11-Aug-2008 16:46:45] <ToM-> on the cisco device
[11-Aug-2008 16:49:29] <jatindergiri> well it's catos , I assigned port name I guess it didn't pick that up, let me see if there is a way to assign port descirption
[11-Aug-2008 16:53:15] <jatindergiri> okay so I am using set port name , it is the equivalent to port description for ios and it's not picking it up. Is there any way I can assign this manually?
[11-Aug-2008 16:55:10] <jiffe99> alright, I have zenoss reinstalled, I am having trouble setting up a device via snmp, I can snmpwalk the device if I change version to v2c and remove system from the end, I set the community and version in zProperties but it times out while trying to add the device
[11-Aug-2008 16:56:51] <jiffe99> it does show plugins: zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap while modelling
[11-Aug-2008 16:57:34] <thedaveking> jiffe99: I had a lot of bgp routes that took a long long time to read. I ended up unbinding the RouteMap for my core router devices.
[11-Aug-2008 16:58:52] <thedaveking> other options are increasing the zCollectorClientTimeout, or setting zRouteMapCollectOnlyLocal to true
[11-Aug-2008 16:59:20] <thedaveking> but if you have 250K BGP routes, you'll probably just want to unbind the RouteMap collector
[11-Aug-2008 17:03:44] <ToM-> ok, now I'm getting really pissed
[11-Aug-2008 17:03:58] <ToM-> i can't get the zencommand to execute any rrd datapoint commands
[11-Aug-2008 17:04:01] <ToM-> like wtf?!?
[11-Aug-2008 17:09:24] <jiffe99> that did work, thanks
[11-Aug-2008 18:11:28] Guest93378 is now known as troy42
[11-Aug-2008 18:14:00] <sto6ma9ch> I'm trying to configure Zenoss to do the following:
[11-Aug-2008 18:14:20] <sto6ma9ch> Perform a standard device ping
[11-Aug-2008 18:14:37] <sto6ma9ch> If the RTA goes over 200ms, send an e-mail alert.
[11-Aug-2008 18:15:08] <sto6ma9ch> I have the device being monitored only by pings, but I'm unsure how to configure the RTA alert.
[11-Aug-2008 18:28:41] <cciewu> u could use the check_ping command
[11-Aug-2008 18:29:00] <cciewu> set a warning and crit level
[11-Aug-2008 18:59:28] <daMaestro> sto6ma9ch, yeah.. you need to set a threshold via the template that i doing the ping
[11-Aug-2008 19:15:51] * meteoroid is having trouble with zenoss rpm on rhel5, wants to create a database during rpm install which it can't do without the password, and doesn't ask for.. can't find any docs except general readme-type from source. any help appreciated to get basic setup up-and-running.
[11-Aug-2008 19:17:24] <daMaestro> meteoroid, the installer expects an empty mysql database
[11-Aug-2008 19:17:33] <daMaestro> meteoroid, is this on a "fresh" server?
[11-Aug-2008 19:17:42] <daMaestro> aka.. can you blow away the mysql data?
[11-Aug-2008 19:19:17] <meteoroid> this is on a production server where i'd like zenoss to monitor my client mysql databases
[11-Aug-2008 19:19:25] <meteoroid> it's a very good thing it didn't try to blow them away i'd be pretty irate
[11-Aug-2008 19:19:50] <meteoroid> why can't i just create a 'zenoss' database and se the user and password in a config file, or a ZDA ?
[11-Aug-2008 19:20:37] <meteoroid> the thing is, for now, i'm just trying to get zenoss to run anywhere, i'm planning to monitor from another host, but i can't get any stack installer or anything to work.
[11-Aug-2008 19:20:46] <meteoroid> the stack installer fails to compile a dependency that i already have
[11-Aug-2008 19:20:54] * meteoroid is dizzy
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:07] <meteoroid> i'm trying to make a buildout, but i need to just get a copy working somewhere, so i can see how it works..
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:13] <meteoroid> also the rpm didn't create zeoctl / zopectl scripts..
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:16] <meteoroid> :/
[11-Aug-2008 19:21:35] * meteoroid would really like to help, has clients running their own zenoss and would like to converge..
[11-Aug-2008 19:25:25] <meteoroid> i can have a clean mysql on ubuntu, but it only has a stack installer, which doesn't work for other reasons.
[11-Aug-2008 19:26:45] <daMaestro> meteoroid, just set the root mysql user to not need a password from localhost?
[11-Aug-2008 19:26:54] * daMaestro also thinks that is a nasty hack
[11-Aug-2008 19:27:02] <daMaestro> however, with the rpm installer... that might be your only option
[11-Aug-2008 19:27:14] <daMaestro> i think there is one other user/pass combo it tries
[11-Aug-2008 19:27:21] * daMaestro looks if it's in the --scripts
[11-Aug-2008 19:28:05] <meteoroid> i dont trust the installer not to delete my customer databases
[11-Aug-2008 19:29:30] <meteoroid> rpm shouldn't be looked at as an installer, fyi. it's a package. i'd so much prefer a script that can set things up for me than the rpm try to force something..
[11-Aug-2008 19:29:35] <meteoroid> and that is more customary for rpm-based systems
[11-Aug-2008 19:30:14] * meteoroid gets really tired of software that wants an entire dedicated box just for experimentation ;d
[11-Aug-2008 19:30:18] <daMaestro> meteoroid, /opt/zenoss/bin/install-functions.sh
[11-Aug-2008 19:30:24] * meteoroid perks up
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:13] <meteoroid> hm
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:21] <daMaestro> meteoroid, it looks like you can export MYSQLROOTUSER and MYSQLROOTPASSWD before running the rpm transaction
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:27] <meteoroid> hm.
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:42] <meteoroid> going to need to audit what it does, though
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:50] <meteoroid> probably wait til after lunchtime ;d
[11-Aug-2008 19:31:54] <daMaestro> yeah, very much so
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:14] <meteoroid> so i mean, other than the full on installers, is there just anywhere, in the source code, or anything, a script i can run and/or any directions on manually setting up the zope environment for zenoss?
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:29] <SEJeff> patches accepted
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:36] <daMaestro> oh yeah, you are wanting to do the buildout
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:40] <daMaestro> +1 to that
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:43] <meteoroid> yes yes, but, there's a lot of code to read to even understand what's going on..
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:47] <meteoroid> i'd love to give a patch, but where to start
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:53] <daMaestro> meteoroid, it's tons of black magic
[11-Aug-2008 19:33:59] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Probably somewhere in the init script
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:00] <meteoroid> well who knows how it all works?
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:05] <daMaestro> meteoroid, i really want to fix the packages
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:11] * meteoroid really wants to help
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:13] <daMaestro> but ... don't really have time right now
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:17] <meteoroid> yah i hear ya
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:40] <daMaestro> meteoroid, pull the src.rpm and look at the magic done during install
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:42] <meteoroid> i just need help understanding some or any copy of zenoss enough that i can either write a buildout or at least some notes on how to cobble it together..
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:49] <meteoroid> ah that's a good idea the SRPM might be the easiest to read.
[11-Aug-2008 19:34:53] <meteoroid> +1 !
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:08] <daMaestro> it's very... umm... umm...
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:11] <daMaestro> needs work.
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:25] <SEJeff> meteoroid, ok I've got some code for you to look at
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:33] <SEJeff> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/bin/zenoss_init_post
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:41] <SEJeff> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre
[11-Aug-2008 19:35:47] <__adytum-bot__> Title: /trunk/bin/zenoss_init_post - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:00] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Those should show you what you're after
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:01] <__adytum-bot__> Title: /trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:17] <daMaestro> meteoroid, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Bug 435470 – Review Request: zenoss - The Open Source Network Management System (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:38] <daMaestro> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470#c8 would be my comments
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:49] <meteoroid> w00t!
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Bug 435470 – Review Request: zenoss - The Open Source Network Management System (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:36:58] <meteoroid> thanks you guys, i'll dig in, have to close out another convo RQ
[11-Aug-2008 19:37:02] <daMaestro> i stuck all my compat python stuff in the rpmfusion repo
[11-Aug-2008 19:37:32] <meteoroid> daMaestro: you told me about EPEL recently, too, btw, do you know if that has any issues when ATrpms are in use? We have asterisk from ATrpms.
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:17] <daMaestro> axel is awesome, but it is not his goal to follow the concept of not replacing "core" (read: upstream provided) packages
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:22] <daMaestro> a good example, PIL
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:34] indradg is now known as indradg|zzz
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:36] <daMaestro> epel and atrpms likely conflict
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:50] <daMaestro> you can use the protectbase plugin with yum to mitigate a lot of the risk
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:57] <SEJeff> EPEL also is more likely to have the highest quality rpms
[11-Aug-2008 19:38:57] <daMaestro> but you break it, you bought it (so to speak)
[11-Aug-2008 19:39:13] <daMaestro> yes, epel will have the highest quality rpms
[11-Aug-2008 19:39:21] <daMaestro> all builds are reviewed, audited and chroot built
[11-Aug-2008 19:39:44] <daMaestro> iirc EPEL is still using plague, but is slated to move to using koji soon
[11-Aug-2008 19:41:51] <SEJeff> daMaestro, Why does that matter? koji is a zillion line python script
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:00] <SEJeff> daMaestro, We rolled out plague at work because it is less gross
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:50] <daMaestro> koji has complete and utter reproducibility
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:55] <daMaestro> plague, does not
[11-Aug-2008 19:42:58] <SEJeff> How so?
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:02] <SEJeff> And define that please
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:25] <daMaestro> https://fedorahosted.org/koji/
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Koji - Trac (at fedorahosted.org)
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:32] <SEJeff> Yes
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:35] <daMaestro> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji
[11-Aug-2008 19:43:42] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Koji - FedoraProject (at fedoraproject.org)
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:08] <SEJeff> Can you please explain your statement to someone who has used both and ask setup plague?
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:32] <jiffe99> alright, I have the router added, it seemed to find the interfaces and vlans, but all of them gave me an error that it couldn't read the value, oid is bad
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:33] <SEJeff> Not that it is fun futzing with certificates for each plague user, but it works very well and creates things reliably
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:50] <SEJeff> jiffe99, You probably need to load in the mib for that router
[11-Aug-2008 19:44:54] <daMaestro> koji is able to recreate a build at any time, where all aspects of the build are tracked and are able to be reproduced
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:05] <daMaestro> don't get me wrong, both are good
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:14] <daMaestro> and i'm glad you found the one you like using more
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:19] <SEJeff> Again, I don't see the difference
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:49] <SEJeff> plague lets you setup a server and a client. You submit jobs to the server which pushes them to the client. It builds packages reproduceably
[11-Aug-2008 19:45:55] <SEJeff> Just curious
[11-Aug-2008 19:46:45] <daMaestro> plague does not track what was put into the chroot
[11-Aug-2008 19:46:48] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Whenever you get back, I've found what you are looking for
[11-Aug-2008 19:46:55] <daMaestro> it just builds the package, as of the time of the build
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:02] <SEJeff> daMaestro, Isn't that in the build logs where everything is ran with set -vx?
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:06] <SEJeff> It shows the copy or whatnot
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:14] <daMaestro> koji, on the other hand, tracks everything that was used to render the build
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:21] <daMaestro> yes, you can view the logs with plague
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:27] <meteoroid> oh?
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:27] <SEJeff> filenames and sha1sum or something?
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:38] <meteoroid> SEJeff: where is it where is it?!?!
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:42] <daMaestro> but everything is explicitly tracked with koji
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:44] * meteoroid hops up and down
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:45] <SEJeff> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:53] <SEJeff> 55 # create the events mysql database
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:53] <SEJeff> 56 create_database
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:59] <SEJeff> 64 # create the zeodb instance
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:59] <SEJeff> 65 run_mkzeoinstance
[11-Aug-2008 19:47:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: /trunk/bin/zenoss_init_pre - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:03] <meteoroid> rawk
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:06] <SEJeff> 67 # create the zeo database
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 68 start_zeodb
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 69 chown -R ${OS_USERNAME} ${ZENHOME}/var
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 70 run_zenbuild
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <SEJeff> 71 stop_zeodb
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:09] <meteoroid> oh yeah also my zeo / zope instance didn't create
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:11] <SEJeff> There you go
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:11] <meteoroid> oh this is it man
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:12] <meteoroid> rawk
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:18] <meteoroid> maybe i can get a buildout going today!
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:29] <SEJeff> Please writeup something on the wiki when you get a chance
[11-Aug-2008 19:48:47] <SEJeff> So when someone else wants to do this they don't have to reverse engineer the rpm or look too much into the source
[11-Aug-2008 19:49:36] <SEJeff> daMaestro, Ok back to our koji convo. That is cool, but how is it better?
[11-Aug-2008 19:49:59] <SEJeff> plague lets you submit an srpm and get back an rpm
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:10] <daMaestro> they both use the same basic infrastructure (mock + yum + rpm), yes
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:22] <SEJeff> koji requires things to be in version control in ways that are forced upon you from my understanding
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:42] <daMaestro> yes, (that is partly correct)... that is part of the concept of koji
[11-Aug-2008 19:50:44] <meteoroid> SEJeff: totally. also the buildout will contain some documentation and should be easy to keep up to date. it will be in public svn
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:00] <daMaestro> *everything* has to be *completely* reproducible at any point
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:09] <SEJeff> meteoroid, http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:16] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Wiki - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:22] <SEJeff> Yeah, how is what comes out of an srpm not reproducable?
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:28] <SEJeff> Lets take this to PM
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:40] <daMaestro> you can do something called "scratch" builds with koji, which is similar to what you find appealing about plague
[11-Aug-2008 19:51:54] <daMaestro> SEJeff, i'd love to, outside of my work hours ;-)
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:05] * meteoroid is interested in this convo
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:09] <SEJeff> Alright
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:50] * daMaestro needs to get back to getting squid 3.0 STABLE7 pushed out and STABLE8 checked into the fedora CVS
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:53] <daMaestro> ;-)
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:56] <SEJeff> I just don't see what koji really buys you. The only nice thing about koji is the clear separation of privilege from a security aspect
[11-Aug-2008 19:52:58] <SEJeff> Alright thanks
[11-Aug-2008 19:53:24] <meteoroid> daMaestro: are you using squid3 as a proxy?
[11-Aug-2008 19:53:29] <meteoroid> i mean, as a forward-proxy..
[11-Aug-2008 19:53:54] <meteoroid> eh i'll bug you about it later in pm ;d
[11-Aug-2008 19:54:52] <daMaestro> meteoroid, reverse proxy cache-farm
[11-Aug-2008 19:54:53] <daMaestro> ;-)
[11-Aug-2008 19:55:16] <sto6ma9ch> I'm having a bit of trouble creating a new command in the template for check_ping
[11-Aug-2008 19:55:51] <meteoroid> daMaestro: for .. plone .. ?
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:12] <daMaestro> meteoroid, i actually switched to using varnish with plone
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:19] <sto6ma9ch> Looks like the command is being called from /opt/zenoss/libexec, but it's installed in /usr/local/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:22] * meteoroid keeps hearing about it crashing..
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:40] <SEJeff> meteoroid, Squid?
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:43] <meteoroid> ok we should pm so sto6ma9ch can get help if we cant help
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:46] <meteoroid> SEJeff: varnish
[11-Aug-2008 19:56:48] * meteoroid uses squid 2.6
[11-Aug-2008 19:58:27] <meteoroid> sto6ma9ch: all of zenoss is in /usr/local/zenoss? is there no /opt/zenoss/libexec at all?
[11-Aug-2008 19:58:33] <jiffe99> does zenoss come with a general set of MIBs?
[11-Aug-2008 19:58:44] <sto6ma9ch> That's correct, there is no /opt/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 19:59:24] <sto6ma9ch> "./zencommand run -d <ip_of_device> -v10" produces:
[11-Aug-2008 19:59:35] <sto6ma9ch> 'Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/ - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins'
[11-Aug-2008 19:59:55] <SEJeff> jiffe99, /opt/zenoss/share/mibs
[11-Aug-2008 20:00:20] <meteoroid> jiffe99: there are a bunch of existing "ZenPacks" which talk to things like Dell and HP default monitors, Apache stats, a few other things, and it talks nagios plugins. i imagine some of those involve mibs and other are just scripts..
[11-Aug-2008 20:00:48] <sto6ma9ch> I see. So I should look to edit the check_ping script?
[11-Aug-2008 20:00:52] <meteoroid> sto6ma9ch: grep -r through your zenoss install for \/opt\/zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 20:01:33] <meteoroid> also just consider using an absolute path to your script
[11-Aug-2008 20:01:35] <meteoroid> i'd do both
[11-Aug-2008 20:02:43] <SEJeff> sto6ma9ch, one of the things I did was added /opt/zenoss/libexec to $PATH for the zenoss user. It made things easier when running nagios style checks like that
[11-Aug-2008 20:02:43] <sto6ma9ch> "less check_ping | grep \/opt\/zenoss" produces:
[11-Aug-2008 20:03:01] <sto6ma9ch> "check_ping" is a binary file. See it anyway?
[11-Aug-2008 20:03:01] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: A symbolic link or two might fix it all up quickly
[11-Aug-2008 20:03:17] <sto6ma9ch> OK, I'll set that symbolic link real quick ...
[11-Aug-2008 20:06:10] <SEJeff> jiffe99, You might try something like: zenmib run /usr/share/snmp/mibs/*
[11-Aug-2008 20:11:11] <sto6ma9ch> Got the symbolic link from /opt/zenoss to /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/common
[11-Aug-2008 20:11:56] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: Cool - are you getting different results?
[11-Aug-2008 20:11:57] <sto6ma9ch> chowned it to zenoss:zenoss
[11-Aug-2008 20:12:07] <sto6ma9ch> Yep, but they're a tad confusing.
[11-Aug-2008 20:12:16] <sto6ma9ch> It looks like the command runs twice.
[11-Aug-2008 20:12:28] <sto6ma9ch> Once completing successfully, then another with the misuse error.
[11-Aug-2008 20:13:01] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: hrmm... I have yet to play with check_ping, so I have 0 exp. on that one...
[11-Aug-2008 20:13:14] <sto6ma9ch> Understood. Thanks for your help.
[11-Aug-2008 20:13:37] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: np - good luck
[11-Aug-2008 20:14:05] <sto6ma9ch> BTW: This product has been really well received by our administrators ...
[11-Aug-2008 20:14:10] <sto6ma9ch> and management.
[11-Aug-2008 20:14:28] <SEJeff> sto6ma9ch, Note: I just became an enterprise customer. This is a great product
[11-Aug-2008 20:16:43] <SEJeff> sto6ma9ch, If you are a command line guy, the ability to script zenoss is pretty much endless
[11-Aug-2008 20:17:27] <sto6ma9ch> I'm a command line guy as much as I can be ... that's the only real way to be portable.
[11-Aug-2008 20:17:49] <sto6ma9ch> Wait: Just got it!
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:10] <sto6ma9ch> I failed to add the command string in the "Command Template" field under Data Source.
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:21] <SEJeff> That just might do it
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:27] <sto6ma9ch> ... and there's my alert e-mail.
[11-Aug-2008 20:19:34] <sto6ma9ch> My apologies.
[11-Aug-2008 20:23:23] <knakka> Hi all...how to populate the Hardware Tab with information for a cisco router/switch (using V 2.2.3)
[11-Aug-2008 20:23:47] <knakka> should the CiscoMap plugin do or does it needs anything else?
[11-Aug-2008 20:24:11] <kso512> sto6ma9ch: <high-five>
[11-Aug-2008 20:24:57] <kso512> knakka: Does the rest of the device get picked up?
[11-Aug-2008 20:25:14] <kso512> knakka: ...Modeled, even?
[11-Aug-2008 20:27:16] <knakka> yes and yes
[11-Aug-2008 20:27:41] <knakka> interfaces, graphs all working fine
[11-Aug-2008 20:28:01] <knakka> don't see anything in hardware tab though
[11-Aug-2008 20:36:29] <sto6ma9ch> This works well. Actually graphing this RTA data may prove valuable, but I'll check the docs for that.
[11-Aug-2008 20:46:02] <knakka> any help with above ...I'm able query (snmpwalk) the cardDesr oid for that device and I see all the line card information on that device
[11-Aug-2008 21:53:16] <jiffe99> with the filesystem checks that it is doing via snmp, is there a way to limit it to certain paths only?
[11-Aug-2008 21:56:34] <jiffe99> suppose I can just clean things up after discovery
[11-Aug-2008 22:00:18] <krphop> you could limit it in your snmp config
[11-Aug-2008 22:19:36] <jiffe99> hmm, how would I go about that?
[11-Aug-2008 22:22:05] <jiffe99> its probably going to be different per machine anyway so might be best to let it find them all and remove what I don't need to check
[11-Aug-2008 22:44:17] <jiffe99> what exactly does this mean? threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 2.92
[11-Aug-2008 22:45:42] <jiffe99> more specifically the 2.92 part
[11-Aug-2008 23:43:20] <meteoroid> dangit i lost my links to zenoss source from earlier
[11-Aug-2008 23:43:22] <meteoroid> been a flurry today
[11-Aug-2008 23:43:30] <meteoroid> but i'm on the yellow brick road for sure.
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[12-Aug-2008 09:26:07] <rbw> hello!
[12-Aug-2008 09:29:45] <rbw> I've just installed a zenoss client node. it works fine and everything but there seems to be very few modules/plugins/checks available...is adding new modules easy? i.e. say I want various status checks for tivoli storage manager, is there a site or such where new modules can be downloaded and added to a client node?
[12-Aug-2008 10:59:41] <pb1dft> damn
[12-Aug-2008 10:59:57] <pb1dft> what the hell is wrong with the product on some points
[12-Aug-2008 11:00:29] <pb1dft> i start a discovery on network 10.1.2.0/24 and it start a discovery on 10.1.0.0/16
[12-Aug-2008 12:24:48] <cciewu> pb1d: which version r u using?
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[12-Aug-2008 12:40:41] <rrittenhouse> I used the deb's for Zenoss to install in Ubuntu. What is the default username/password for the install?
[12-Aug-2008 12:41:54] <rrittenhouse> nm I guessed it
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:12] <pb1dft> cciewu: Zenos 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:21] <pb1dft> and python 2.4.4
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:26] <pb1dft> on RHEL 5.2
[12-Aug-2008 13:19:47] <cciewu> hmm my only exp is with 2.1.2
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:01] <cciewu> trying to upgrade to 2.2.3 has scared me for life
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:27] <pb1dft> this is a new install as i'm trying to convince people here this is as good as NNM
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:35] <pb1dft> say better and less expensive
[12-Aug-2008 13:20:45] <cciewu> it will be when you get it working
[12-Aug-2008 13:21:11] <cciewu> so scanning 10.1.2.0 will scan 10.1.0.0?
[12-Aug-2008 13:21:30] <pb1dft> most off the stuff seems to work just have some small stuff i have to fix like a shitload off errors on ciscos 6500 switches
[12-Aug-2008 13:22:08] <pb1dft> cciewu: yeah as does 10.16.x.0 /24 will start on 10.16.0.0/16
[12-Aug-2008 13:24:07] <cciewu> hmm i've discovered stuff x.x.x.0 before never had that problem
[12-Aug-2008 13:24:17] <cciewu> then again i'm running older version
[12-Aug-2008 13:24:39] <pb1dft> this is a rather large network
[12-Aug-2008 13:25:08] <pb1dft> we are using the all private subnet 10/8 192.168/16 etc
[12-Aug-2008 13:25:19] <pb1dft> and a shitoad off publics
[12-Aug-2008 13:26:55] <cciewu> ouch
[12-Aug-2008 13:29:51] <cciewu> pb1dft:what happens when you browse by networks?
[12-Aug-2008 13:38:04] <nemo_> it goes sllllllloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww
[12-Aug-2008 13:40:23] <cciewu> nemo: r u having issues as well?
[12-Aug-2008 13:44:19] <nemo_> performance yes
[12-Aug-2008 13:44:49] <nemo_> and yes, i put in all the /24's i wanted and deleted the /16 /8's
[12-Aug-2008 13:45:28] <cciewu> u also using 2.2.3?
[12-Aug-2008 13:47:54] <pb1dft> 2.2.3 has smome issues
like the webdeamon not staying started at bootup [12-Aug-2008 13:48:27] <cciewu> that sucks
[12-Aug-2008 13:48:47] <jb> or like the broken graphs.
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:13] <cciewu> crap 2.2.3 clean install has broken graphs?
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:18] <jb> no, upgrade
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:22] <jb> for me, at least
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:27] <jb> zenperfsnmp keeps crapping out
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:30] <cciewu> did you guys do the usual like kill zec files and dump your browser cache?
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:45] <cciewu> yeah upgrade wiped me out as well
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:48] <pb1dft> to get it started and keep it started i had to run runzope from cmd line and leave the console open or zopectl -f -d start
[12-Aug-2008 13:49:52] <cciewu> zenmigrate is awful
[12-Aug-2008 13:50:07] <cciewu> had to downgrade back to 2.1.2
[12-Aug-2008 13:50:24] <cciewu> for me it was zenhub that kept going out
[12-Aug-2008 13:53:03] <cciewu> aww just noticed Zenoss Dev team will be here at 11am this thursday
[12-Aug-2008 13:53:28] <pb1dft> damn motherfucker i disabled autodiscover on the /16 network and started a discovery on the /24 one
[12-Aug-2008 13:54:02] <pb1dft> still started discovery on the /16 network but exited due to the false parameter
[12-Aug-2008 13:54:59] <cciewu> what does it say in your zproperties for /Networks?
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:18] <cciewu> especially for DefaultNetworkTrees?
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:24] <pb1dft> what param
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:36] <pb1dft> 24 and 32
[12-Aug-2008 13:55:42] <cciewu> ok
[12-Aug-2008 13:56:16] <cciewu> you added subnetworks i'm assuming
[12-Aug-2008 13:56:45] <pb1dft> subnets came from my core router which i added by hand
[12-Aug-2008 14:03:19] <mndo> hi there!
[12-Aug-2008 14:04:18] <mndo> i am thinking of giving zenoss a try and i was wondering about the performance of zenoss vs cacti a on relatively small network..
[12-Aug-2008 14:04:22] <mndo> any pointers?
[12-Aug-2008 14:05:49] <cciewu> never used cacti before
[12-Aug-2008 14:06:22] <cciewu> but zenoss with plenty of memory is fast assuming you don't get a version that has a memory issue
[12-Aug-2008 14:09:16] <mndo> cciewu, cacti was just an example.. the real thing that worries me is that zenoss runs on zope, which is not very light..
[12-Aug-2008 14:10:54] <mndo> memory should not be a problem.. it will run on a dual core and 4g of mem..
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:08] <nemo_> 4gb is kiddy stuff
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:22] <nemo_> 16/32 is recommended for 100's of devices
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:40] <nemo_> i run with 8gb of ram
[12-Aug-2008 14:11:50] <nemo_> had to add a 23gb swap file to get stability
[12-Aug-2008 14:14:55] <nemo_> can anyone tell me what the default zserver-threads is in there /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:02] <cciewu> strange i think my box has 32GB but i only see 4GB
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:29] <nemo_> 32bit ?
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:37] <nemo_> or PAE kernel
[12-Aug-2008 14:16:52] <cciewu> yeah 32
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:03] <cciewu> i don't think it's using PAE
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:13] <nemo_> so you really should only see 3gb
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:27] <nemo_> use a 64bit kernel and you can use upto 256TB
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:48] <cciewu> well it sems ok the db has 8gb and see it all
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:52] <cciewu> the front end has 4
[12-Aug-2008 14:17:56] <nemo_> grep zserver-threads /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf
[12-Aug-2008 14:18:01] <nemo_> anyone run that pls ?
[12-Aug-2008 14:18:17] <cciewu> 10
[12-Aug-2008 14:19:30] <nemo_> thx
[12-Aug-2008 14:21:10] <cciewu> np
[12-Aug-2008 14:24:04] <rbw> has anyone got experience with nagios plugins in zenoss?
[12-Aug-2008 14:24:24] <rbw> I can't get it to work and the documentation on this doesn't make any sense...
[12-Aug-2008 14:24:48] <cciewu> i've gotten it to work for the check_dns.pl
[12-Aug-2008 14:25:03] <cciewu> got to go into templates and device
[12-Aug-2008 14:25:11] <cciewu> and add data source as a command
[12-Aug-2008 14:25:34] <cciewu> then put in the pl or py file in the libexec directory, just the name not the path
[12-Aug-2008 14:26:15] <mndo> nemo_, there won't be 100s of devices somewhere around 10 would be accurate..
[12-Aug-2008 14:26:40] <nemo_> so your fine then
[12-Aug-2008 14:26:49] <mndo> that's why was wondering if zenoss performed good enough or is overkill
[12-Aug-2008 14:27:03] <nemo_> its fine with low memory for small deployments
[12-Aug-2008 14:31:52] <rbw> cciewu: I've successfully added the command and tested it to verify that it's working properly. however, it doesn't show up in the event console
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:23] <cciewu> yeah i've only see my command run once
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:31] <cciewu> might need to run zencommand
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:39] <rbw> cciewu: done that, still nothing.
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:45] <cciewu> hmm
[12-Aug-2008 14:32:52] <cciewu> yeah that is where i'm stumped as well
[12-Aug-2008 14:33:09] <cciewu> ok does your command have options for W and C? warn and crit?
[12-Aug-2008 14:33:13] <cciewu> trip one of those
[12-Aug-2008 14:34:22] <rbw> cciewu: I'm actually using check_nrpe(the plugin connects to a remote NRPE host) and checks disk usage...anyway, it does return status properly (warning atm).
[12-Aug-2008 14:34:50] <cciewu> do you see it in acknowledged?
[12-Aug-2008 14:34:59] <cciewu> sometimes it'll end up on the wrong event
[12-Aug-2008 14:36:19] <rbw> cciewu: nope. nothing
[12-Aug-2008 14:37:17] <cciewu> yeah that is where i am now also
[12-Aug-2008 14:37:27] <cciewu> welcome to limbo
[12-Aug-2008 14:37:44] <cciewu> wait do you wsometo alert you?
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:00] <pb1dft> hehe i'm running zenos in vmware
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:03] <pb1dft> lol
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:09] <cciewu> sigh
[12-Aug-2008 14:38:31] <cciewu> pb1dft so you got everything working now?
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:03] <pb1dft> yeah devices got discovered
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:06] <pb1dft> 37 off them
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:23] <cciewu> good
[12-Aug-2008 14:39:30] <cciewu> brb
[12-Aug-2008 15:03:29] <cciewu> back
[12-Aug-2008 15:10:28] <pb1dft> can anyone tell me what the discovery intervall is?.
[12-Aug-2008 15:11:11] <jiffe99> any way of finding out why loading a MIB failed?
[12-Aug-2008 15:14:39] <cciewu> you mean data collection pb1dft?
[12-Aug-2008 15:14:47] <cciewu> i think every 12 hours
[12-Aug-2008 15:14:52] <pb1dft> no discovery fr new devices
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:02] <cciewu> i think that is a manual thing
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:12] <pb1dft> hmm
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:35] <cciewu> cause you click on network and then use the drop down to select discover devices
[12-Aug-2008 15:15:47] <cciewu> maybe you can set that but i don't know where
[12-Aug-2008 15:16:05] <pb1dft> i'll look a bit at it
[12-Aug-2008 15:16:44] <pb1dft> bbl
[12-Aug-2008 15:16:58] <cciewu> k
[12-Aug-2008 15:21:42] <jiffe99> ah got it, --debug
[12-Aug-2008 15:22:59] <cciewu> what command jiffe did you add the debug option?
[12-Aug-2008 15:24:25] <jiffe99> zenmib
[12-Aug-2008 15:58:48] <jiffe99> if I am seeing 'oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.455 is bad', this means I don't have an MIB loaded?
[12-Aug-2008 15:59:13] <jb> no, it means the OID is bad..
[12-Aug-2008 16:01:06] <jiffe99> what does 'bad' mean ?
[12-Aug-2008 16:04:39] <jb> can you walk it?
[12-Aug-2008 16:05:43] <jiffe99> I can
[12-Aug-2008 16:07:39] <jiffe99> so ifInErrors.455 not showing up is the reason it is saying it is bad?
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:29] <jb> wow
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:31] <jb> zenrestore is so broken.
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:47] <cciewu> blow up your /tmp?
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:53] <jb> well, besides that
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:55] <cciewu> and what verson?
[12-Aug-2008 17:04:58] <jb> 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:03] <jb> it didnt restore any of my devices or anything
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:04] <cciewu> oh joy
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:14] <jb> i think its trying to use an invalid mysql password
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:16] <cciewu> i hope you still have your old box
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:25] <jb> i do
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:30] <jb> im testing on a vm
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:35] <jb> tar: perf: time stamp 2008-08-12 11:08:08 is 12229 s in the future
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:35] <jb> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:35] <jb> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[12-Aug-2008 17:05:57] <jb> this is really beginning to upset me.
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:10] <cciewu> do another backup but select to have your username and password dropped into a file
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:17] <cciewu> and then have zenrestore pick it up from there
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:32] <jb> thats an option?
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:35] <cciewu> yeah
[12-Aug-2008 17:06:59] <daMaestro> is there any way to copy a report?
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:05] <cciewu> i didn't bother with my backup because i didn't bother changing the username and password
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:14] <jb> i didnt change it either
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:22] <jb> but the stack installer obviously installed it using "zenoss" as the pw
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:24] <cciewu> then you don't have one?
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:35] <jb> its "zenoss"
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:38] <cciewu> then set the old one and do another backup
[12-Aug-2008 17:07:45] <cciewu> strange
[12-Aug-2008 17:08:49] <jb> whats the zenbackup options
[12-Aug-2008 17:09:14] <cciewu> zenbackup -h
[12-Aug-2008 17:09:19] <jb> ah thanks
[12-Aug-2008 17:09:28] <cciewu> np
[12-Aug-2008 17:10:40] <jb> the /tmp thing is annoying.
[12-Aug-2008 17:11:06] <cciewu> i'm going to map it to a larger network mount next time
[12-Aug-2008 17:11:23] <cciewu> just wish there was an option to not take performance data along to the new server
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:16] <jb> no one can seem to figure out my zenperfsnmp/gaps in graph problem
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:30] <cciewu> i've seen that before also
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:39] <cciewu> snmp sometimes conks out
[12-Aug-2008 17:12:49] <cciewu> for no reason so you're seeing gaps
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:23] <cciewu> i forgot but if you search the forums you can shorten some sort of interval so that they are collected more often
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:30] <jb> well, zenperfsnmp craps out every time its ran
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:44] <jb> in which zen is establishing a TCP connection to its self
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:45] <cciewu> ok then you have much bigger issues
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:52] <cciewu> iptables?
[12-Aug-2008 17:13:54] <jb> no
[12-Aug-2008 17:14:08] <jb> everything worked fine with 2.2.0
[12-Aug-2008 17:14:25] <cciewu> just curious why then are you moving to 2.2.3?
[12-Aug-2008 17:14:42] <jb> because i wanted to keep current.. typically makes upgrades less tedious
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:12] <jb> so now for testing, i did a zenbackup of my 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:16] <jb> installed 2.2.3 on a VM
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:21] <jb> and trying to use zenrestore to restore
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:23] <cciewu> good luck
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:24] <jb> to see if the gaps exist
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:29] <jb> but i cant even get the backup/restore to work
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:49] <jiffe99> is there a way to make notifications more pager friendly? Editing the message but the macros can still be long
[12-Aug-2008 17:15:51] <cciewu> restore still doesn't work?
[12-Aug-2008 17:16:04] <jb> im retrying it now..
[12-Aug-2008 17:16:30] <pb1dft> cciewu:
[12-Aug-2008 17:17:09] <cciewu> jiffe: i guess you can put in a specific message or get rid of the extra components
[12-Aug-2008 17:25:13] <jb> ah theres a --temp-dir too
[12-Aug-2008 17:26:26] <cciewu> bummer i think that implemented that after 2.2.0
[12-Aug-2008 17:26:34] <cciewu> 2.1.2 doesn't have that option
[12-Aug-2008 17:39:42] <OOKyler> Good afternoon!
[12-Aug-2008 17:40:17] <OOKyler> Might I speak with anyone who could help me with SNMP trap mappings? At my whits end..
[12-Aug-2008 17:41:39] <cciewu> oid?
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:23] <OOKyler> Well, I've uploaded my MIBs for a UPS Web Card.. The traps are arriving and hitting the event list, but aren't translating. I'm apparently not understanding how this is supposed to work..
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:40] <jb> ok
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:42] <jb> no errors
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:49] <jb> and no devices in zenoss
[12-Aug-2008 17:42:59] <jb> ARGH
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:06] <jb> one thing after another
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:07] <cciewu> so no password problems?
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:12] <jb> niope
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:15] <jb> no errors
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:22] <jb> do I need to run zenmigrate?
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:25] <jb> the backup is from 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:34] <jb> im restoring to a clean 2.2.3
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:40] <cciewu> 2.2.3 to 2.2.3 shouldn't need it
[12-Aug-2008 17:43:50] <cciewu> i'd check the forums also at the point
[12-Aug-2008 17:45:58] <OOKyler> The device I'm trying to monitor is a Liebert UPS battery string. The MIB file from the vendor had around 500 mibs in it. Now that I have traps coming in, they are showing up as the OIDs. How do I make the associated link so they show up as the right Event Class and Description?
[12-Aug-2008 17:46:20] <jb> zenhub wont start
[12-Aug-2008 17:47:21] <MrTux> OOKyler: do you find the oid in the mibview?
[12-Aug-2008 17:48:24] <OOKyler> mibview - explain?
[12-Aug-2008 17:50:11] <OOKyler> Let me rephrase that.. don't want to sound pushy or harsh. Could you please explain to me how I could do that?
[12-Aug-2008 17:53:15] <MrTux> OOKyler: you have to look in the mibs section of the webinterface for the mib, and in the mib you can see what traps are defined
[12-Aug-2008 17:54:15] <OOKyler> Ahh, yes. All of the mibs imported into the Mib section of the UI. The names are associated to OID Mappings as well as Traps
[12-Aug-2008 17:54:28] <OOKyler> They are SMIv2 MIBS
[12-Aug-2008 17:54:33] <MrTux> OOKyler: okay, so it usuall work, at least in my experience
[12-Aug-2008 17:55:12] <OOKyler> after I add the MIBs, what do I need to do in the Events section? The documentation seems to elude to needing to do something there but it's not clicking.
[12-Aug-2008 18:12:57] <nate187> if .python.bin is tying up the cpu, is there a way to see which zenoss process is causing it?
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[12-Aug-2008 18:13:35] <nate187> nm, stupid me.
[12-Aug-2008 18:16:10] <nate187> zenhub is staying at 100% cpu. Should it be constantly using that much? I'm running it on dual 3Ghz xeons with 3G ram
[12-Aug-2008 18:20:53] <MrTux> OOKyler: the mib mapping is done automatically
[12-Aug-2008 18:50:25] <nate187> anyone have any ideas?
[12-Aug-2008 19:00:10] <cciewu> set logseverity to 10 and look at the log
[12-Aug-2008 19:00:19] <cciewu> either in the gui or from the log directory
[12-Aug-2008 19:01:12] <nate187> looks like it was pulling all the bgp routes from my routers
[12-Aug-2008 19:01:32] <nate187> so i disabled the routemap plugin
[12-Aug-2008 19:01:49] <cciewu> so it stopped?
[12-Aug-2008 19:02:10] <cciewu> did it lower CPU utilization?
[12-Aug-2008 19:02:17] <nate187> i restarted it and its only going up to about 65% max now
[12-Aug-2008 19:03:11] <nate187> I'll check again in a while, but it looks alot better now
[12-Aug-2008 19:07:40] <cciewu> k
[12-Aug-2008 19:15:54] <MrTux> nate187: you must disable the newroutemap, it fetches dynamic routes
[12-Aug-2008 19:19:13] <jiffe99> alright, now I'm getting
[12-Aug-2008 19:19:28] <jiffe99> 'threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 4155321.13' on Serial7/0/0
[12-Aug-2008 19:19:52] <jiffe99> how do I go about ignoring the serial device
[12-Aug-2008 19:32:10] <jiffe99> suppose I can just remove that threshold altogether
[12-Aug-2008 19:37:43] <OOKyler> create a local copy of the interface and either modifier the multiplier on just that one or disable monitoring for it
[12-Aug-2008 19:37:47] <OOKyler> easiest way I've found
[12-Aug-2008 19:40:11] <OOKyler> MrTux: Is there a particular reason why it wouldn't be mapping automatically? The UPS isn't the only one doing it. Our Tape Backup system isn't working like that either. I uploaded the MIBs but the onyl way I could get it to work was to manually add the transforms in the Event Mappings
[12-Aug-2008 19:41:12] <MrTux> OOKyler: no idea, i'm not a developer, just a user
[12-Aug-2008 19:41:29] <OOKyler> ty anyway
[12-Aug-2008 20:24:42] <cciewu> ok i'm going home
[12-Aug-2008 20:24:44] <cciewu> night all
[12-Aug-2008 21:18:16] <pb1dft> nitghy
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[13-Aug-2008 01:39:48] <meteoroid> wealp ive got some progress getting my zenoss rpm to work on rhel5, though it's not the box i want to run on at all, i think i've got enough of a hang of it to write a buildout..
[13-Aug-2008 01:40:13] <meteoroid> all these extra scripts and commands relate to one zope instance, so it's super simple, i just reference trunk/bin/ from svn:externals
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[13-Aug-2008 04:46:20] <densone> Question , is there a way to have a remote machine behind a distant firewall send data back to zenoss?
[13-Aug-2008 05:21:40] <jeffspeff> hello all, i just downloaded the zenoss windows vmware appliance... how do i set a static ip? there isn't a man page for ifconfig
[13-Aug-2008 05:40:41] <meteoroid> objctrealms still down
[13-Aug-2008 05:42:44] <meteoroid> kapil promised tonight!
[13-Aug-2008 05:43:02] <meteoroid> sorry wrong chan
[13-Aug-2008 07:28:16] <jane_> Hi jeffspeff - I simply changed the name/IP address in the Op Sys to a static and rebooted - Zenoss simply worked
[13-Aug-2008 07:29:54] <jeffspeff> does anybody know how to get the pager alert thing to work? can it send a text to my cell instead of to a pager? how does that work (briefly)?
[13-Aug-2008 07:30:42] <jeffspeff> jane_, do you know?
[13-Aug-2008 08:41:56] <rbw_> hello
[13-Aug-2008 10:00:41] <jane_> Sorry - not done anything with paging
[13-Aug-2008 10:12:29] <OOKyler> usually you simply use email to send the message to phones. Be warned though, it counts as a text message. In the case of Verizon Wireless, you would send the email to 9999999@verizonwireless.com
[13-Aug-2008 10:13:40] <OOKyler> Each mobile phone provider has a method of doing this, of which could be different from provide-to-provider but they all use email to achieve it
[13-Aug-2008 10:17:11] <Quadro> no
[13-Aug-2008 10:17:37] <Quadro> not every cell op provides email2sms gateway
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[13-Aug-2008 12:06:28] <OOKyler> Ok, Verizon and ATT have an email2sms gateway.. so I guess the question is who is your provider?
[13-Aug-2008 12:12:54] <Quadro> Megaphone
[13-Aug-2008 12:12:59] <Quadro> the same @ MTS
[13-Aug-2008 12:13:06] <Quadro> the same @ BeeLine
[13-Aug-2008 12:13:46] <Quadro> i don't care much in fact, i've got my own sms-gate
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[13-Aug-2008 14:53:27] <MmeNetView> test
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[13-Aug-2008 15:51:44] <jiffe99> alright, when I go into the OS tab and clean out filesystems I don't want to monitor they come back the next day
[13-Aug-2008 16:06:05] <jb> any enterprise customers here?
[13-Aug-2008 16:08:38] <nate187> how do you clear all the performance data?
[13-Aug-2008 16:09:50] <kgoedtel> delete the rrd files?
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:08] <nate187> I was using a data point of counter instead of derive and need to wipe all the graphs
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:24] <nate187> so everything is stored in teh rdd files?
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:41] <kgoedtel> the performance data is yeah
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:52] <kgoedtel> you can just delete the relevant rrd files
[13-Aug-2008 16:11:54] <nate187> k, thanks
[13-Aug-2008 16:54:30] <jiffe99> snmp filesystem monitoring monitors all the filesystems found, some are constant 100% usage though and not sure how to . dynamix
[13-Aug-2008 16:55:03] <jiffe99> not sure how to not monitor those
[13-Aug-2008 16:55:30] <MA1> word
[13-Aug-2008 17:55:11] <cciewu> so quiet here today
[13-Aug-2008 17:55:17] <MA1> seriously
[13-Aug-2008 17:55:49] <nate187> shhh
[13-Aug-2008 17:56:04] <cciewu>
[13-Aug-2008 17:56:24] <cciewu> our of curiosity who uses syslog/syslog-ng/rsyslog?
[13-Aug-2008 17:56:48] <nate187> i used syslog-ng
[13-Aug-2008 17:57:19] <cciewu> does it have a gui frontend that can attach to it like rsyslog?
[13-Aug-2008 17:57:56] <MA1> i also use syslog-ng and i dont believe theres a gui frontend
[13-Aug-2008 17:57:56] <nate187> php-syslog-ng
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:00] <nate187> http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-syslog-ng/
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:07] <__adytum-bot__> Title: SourceForge.net: php-syslog-ng (at sourceforge.net)
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:13] <cciewu> ? interesting
[13-Aug-2008 17:58:54] <nate187> have syslog-ng record to a db, and php-syslog-ng makes a nice front end for viewing/searching
[13-Aug-2008 17:59:52] <cciewu> but don't i need the PE version to use the db?
[13-Aug-2008 18:00:28] <nate187> pe?
[13-Aug-2008 18:00:54] <cciewu> a paid edition
[13-Aug-2008 18:01:04] <nate187> i don't think so
[13-Aug-2008 18:01:58] <nate187> doesn't say anything about it on the man page
[13-Aug-2008 18:02:22] <cciewu> there r 2 versions a open source version and the premium edition
[13-Aug-2008 18:02:33] <nate187> open source is what i'm using
[13-Aug-2008 18:02:38] <nate187> yum install syslog-ng
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:06] <cciewu> so open source talks to db then
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:10] <nate187> does for me
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:47] <jb> looking for a gui for syslog-ng data?
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:49] <cciewu> mysql?
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:49] <jb> check out splunk
[13-Aug-2008 18:03:56] <jb> its pretty nice..
[13-Aug-2008 18:04:16] <cciewu> ok got to head to a meeting
[13-Aug-2008 18:38:21] <leitgebj> Hey folks... anyone have an idea about how to set up a memory or load threshold? I set a value for memory free, and it never gets reached when it should, but for load I have the opposite problem.
[13-Aug-2008 18:58:27] <nate187> What would be the correct syntax for the RPN field to multiply a data point by 8 before graphing?
[13-Aug-2008 18:59:12] <nate187> Nothing I've added changes the graph
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[13-Aug-2008 20:10:03] <duncan> help!
I'm trying to run zenmigrate to upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.2.3 -- the zenrestore worked fine, but I'm getting: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/usr/local/zenoss/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)"[13-Aug-2008 20:10:51] <cciewu> duncan run hide!!!!
[13-Aug-2008 20:12:22] <duncan> aaaiiiieee!!
[13-Aug-2008 20:13:47] <cciewu> yeah i reverted back to 2.1.2
[13-Aug-2008 20:14:13] <duncan> this might be it: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6729&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=mysql+sock&start=15
[13-Aug-2008 20:14:28] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenhub and Zenactions wont start. (at community.zenoss.com)
[13-Aug-2008 20:14:38] <duncan> thanks __adytum-bot__ !
[13-Aug-2008 20:19:51] <kgoedtel> nate187: 8,*
[13-Aug-2008 20:20:27] <nate187> that's what i put
[13-Aug-2008 20:20:32] <nate187> maybe it takes time to update
[13-Aug-2008 20:20:41] <kgoedtel> it shouldn't
[13-Aug-2008 20:21:06] <nate187> hm
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:20] <kgoedtel> and you put that in the graph point RPN and it didn't seem to do anything?
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:39] <nate187> right
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:43] <kgoedtel> weiirrd
[13-Aug-2008 20:22:50] <kgoedtel> i use RPN a lot and never had troubles :[
[13-Aug-2008 20:23:39] <nate187> I'm trying to change ifInOctets on a ppp interface to graph bps instead of octets
[13-Aug-2008 20:24:47] <kgoedtel> is it no 8,* by default?
[13-Aug-2008 20:24:49] <kgoedtel> not*
[13-Aug-2008 20:25:13] <kgoedtel> i just checked mine and that's how i have mine set but i don't recall if i changed it
[13-Aug-2008 20:36:28] <TBKDan> For winexe, what is the format of the authentication file?
[13-Aug-2008 20:45:23] <TBKDan> Yay.. found it in the source..
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[13-Aug-2008 22:22:43] <jiffe99> anyone know of a system tray app that talks with zenoss?
[13-Aug-2008 22:23:57] <jiffe99> I saw the mailing list post from about a year ago but nothing since
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[13-Aug-2008 23:16:29] <en-nick08> test
[13-Aug-2008 23:20:47] <en-nick08> can anyone out there tell me the default transform settings in /Events /Net /Link /snmp_linkDown
[13-Aug-2008 23:25:17] <en-nick08> /msg nickserv register emnyman@gmail.com emn1rc
[13-Aug-2008 23:42:42] <en-nick08> /msg NickServ help
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[14-Aug-2008 02:05:20] <meteoroid> hm, python-ldap doesn't like my DN "dc=obelisk,dc=vongogo,dc=net"
[14-Aug-2008 02:17:40] <ryan____> anybody around ?
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:28] <meteoroid> ryan____: got a question?
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:31] <ryan____> yeah.
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:35] <meteoroid> typically on irc it's best to just ask.
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:36] <meteoroid>
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:41] <ryan____> yeah I know
[14-Aug-2008 02:19:50] <ryan____> regarding zenwinperf, I'm getting a lot of No valid counters
[14-Aug-2008 02:20:08] <ryan____> after winexec has been installed. the zuser/pass is configured correctly (which is how the service was installed)
[14-Aug-2008 02:21:30] <ryan____> was gonna email zen support, but since this isn't critical, they won't get back to me until tomorrow after I get off work
[14-Aug-2008 02:38:04] <ryan____> ugh now I'm forgetting everything
[14-Aug-2008 02:38:12] <ryan____> zAxl user/pass refers to what again ?
[14-Aug-2008 03:50:33] <ryan____> anybody anybody? I can't remember what the zAxlUsername/psasword is for. can someone enlighten me ?
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[14-Aug-2008 08:00:21] <MmeNetView> test
[14-Aug-2008 08:03:24] <pann> hi
[14-Aug-2008 11:06:40] <pb1dft> any here?
[14-Aug-2008 11:17:22] <pann> hi
[14-Aug-2008 11:21:38] <pb1dft> hi
[14-Aug-2008 11:21:46] <pb1dft> you familiar with zenoss?
[14-Aug-2008 11:34:42] <MmeNetView> Anyone else having problems getting consistency with WMI service monitoring on Zenoss 2.2 ?
[14-Aug-2008 11:34:54] <pb1dft> 2.2.3 yes
[14-Aug-2008 11:35:07] <pb1dft> and googlemapping crashes like hell
[14-Aug-2008 11:35:58] <MmeNetView> I heard googlemaps had trouble after 2.1.x so avoided that
[14-Aug-2008 11:36:31] <MmeNetView> I am really confused about the role of zenwinmodeler now
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:07] <MmeNetView> It seems to run if you actively model a device but doesn't show in daemons tab and doesnt have a logfile
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:08] <pb1dft> just only using the product for a few days
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:40] <MmeNetView> Sounds like going to 2.2.3 is not going to help!
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:41] <pb1dft> trying to get things going and the bugs i have now are pretty annoying
[14-Aug-2008 11:37:54] <MmeNetView> ditto!!!!
[14-Aug-2008 11:59:48] <pann> dunno im pretty new to zen but im getting warning like : threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded:
[14-Aug-2008 11:59:51] <pann> from cisco routers
[14-Aug-2008 12:00:35] <pann> although i think thats a problem with zen polling the device as it doesnt recognise the interface
[14-Aug-2008 12:10:19] <pb1dft> pann: indeed i get that on vlan interfaces
[14-Aug-2008 12:33:33] <MmeNetView> off for lunch
[14-Aug-2008 12:41:20] <pb1dft> anyone have any idea how to clear everything ?
[14-Aug-2008 12:41:34] <pb1dft> so i have a clean setu again
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[14-Aug-2008 13:50:29] <IoNu|z> anyone getting this?
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> zenactions run
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 643, in ?
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> za.run()
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/zenactions.py", line 496, in run
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:32] <IoNu|z> self.schedule.run()
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:34] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 91, in run
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:36] <IoNu|z> self.runEvents()
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:38] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 138, in runEvents
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:40] <IoNu|z> self.timer = self.callLater(wait)
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:42] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/Schedule.py", line 145, in callLater
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:44] <IoNu|z> return reactor.callLater(seconds, self.runEvents)
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:46] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/python/lib/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/internet/base.py", line 458, in callLater
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:48] <IoNu|z> assert sys.maxint >= _seconds >= 0, \
[14-Aug-2008 13:50:50] <IoNu|z> AssertionError: 8.64e+26 is not greater than or equal to 0 seconds
[14-Aug-2008 13:56:31] <MmeNetView> Nope - have you tried zenactions run -v10 for some more debugging?
[14-Aug-2008 14:19:02] <IoNu|z> i just restored a backup
[14-Aug-2008 14:19:18] <IoNu|z> not sure what the problem was but it`s fixed now
[14-Aug-2008 14:20:07] <IoNu|z> now... why am i getting Error reading value for "VLANXX" on device (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[14-Aug-2008 14:20:18] <IoNu|z> and then it clears automaticly
[14-Aug-2008 14:38:29] <mib_cvxhwq> I am getting this message from a Cisco Switch: Unrouted Vlan 35: Perf/Interface: "threshold of Performance exceeded: current value 7065.64"
[14-Aug-2008 14:44:44] <mib_cvxhwq> I created a new Threshold called "propVirtual" which is how the IpInterface Type is called...and I did not set any Max & MIn thresholds, this should have worked to handle the Vlan percentage threshold....why is it not?
[14-Aug-2008 14:55:06] <IoNu|z> mib_cvxhwq maybe you have 2 templates checking that?
[14-Aug-2008 14:57:00] <jb> sup mray..
[14-Aug-2008 14:57:44] <mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone
[14-Aug-2008 14:58:32] <jb> want to nudge the sales team for me?
[14-Aug-2008 14:58:34] <IoNu|z> mornin
[14-Aug-2008 14:58:52] <jb> I have tried twice to contact them regarding enterprise..
[14-Aug-2008 14:59:34] <mrayzenoss> __ian__ and I will be fielding most questions this morning, feel free to PM us and we can take discussions offline if necessary.
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[14-Aug-2008 14:59:51] <mrayzenoss> jb: PM me and I'll ping your sales guy
[14-Aug-2008 15:00:03] <jb> mrayzenoss: well, as you probably know, I am still tryign to solve my graph gaps problem..
[14-Aug-2008 15:00:29] <mrayzenoss> jb: oh yeah, I asked EAD about that yesterday
[14-Aug-2008 15:00:37] <jb> any progress being made on it?
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:27] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3536
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:35] <mrayzenoss> I'll ping the devs who worked on that
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3536 (Gaps in RRD Graphs because of random zenperfsnmp pauses/halts) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:01:54] <IoNu|z> anyone know why i`m keep getting heartbeat failure?
[14-Aug-2008 15:03:30] <mrayzenoss> IoNu|z: is one of your daemons going down?
[14-Aug-2008 15:03:40] <IoNu|z> they show green
[14-Aug-2008 15:03:58] <mrayzenoss> which heartbeat is failing?
[14-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <__ian__> is it a windows daemon?
[14-Aug-2008 15:04:43] <IoNu|z> zenwin
[14-Aug-2008 15:04:55] <mrayzenoss> cgibbons?
[14-Aug-2008 15:05:02] <IoNu|z> zentrap syslog status ping snmp eventlog command
[14-Aug-2008 15:05:29] <__ian__> oh. well, that's probably not the problem I was investigating last night.
[14-Aug-2008 15:05:53] <__ian__> any tracebacks in the logs?
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:12] <IoNu|z> mmyeah
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:17] <IoNu|z> let me post them somewhere
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:26] <otakup0pe> so out of curiosity how many devs are in here now ?
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:37] <jb> looks like 1
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:41] <__ian__> three with obvious names
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:49] <__ian__> others might be hiding...
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:50] <IoNu|z> http://pastebin.com/d775cea57
[14-Aug-2008 15:08:57] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:16] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: well, some are lurking but I count 3 devs, 2 client services and a community manager
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:18] <ericnewton> well, there's your problem
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:25] <__ian__> ooh, that's a good one
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:38] <__ian__> take it away, ericnewton
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:52] <ericnewton> ha... should stayed lurking
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:58] <otakup0pe> haha.
[14-Aug-2008 15:09:58] <russbzenoss>
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:05] <__ian__> I'd just have IMed you asking for help.
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:09] <ericnewton> gimme a sec
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:13] <__ian__> you can't hide from me.
[14-Aug-2008 15:10:43] <ericnewton> IoNu|z: what's going on in the zeo.log file?
[14-Aug-2008 15:11:35] <MajereDB8> hi, i just wanted to see if there has been any change or improvement to get zenpop3 event generation working
[14-Aug-2008 15:12:05] <IoNu|z> http://pastebin.com/d68806d1d
[14-Aug-2008 15:12:12] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:13:15] <ericnewton> IoNu|z: probably a cache file issue...
[14-Aug-2008 15:13:34] <ericnewton> stop zenoss, rm $ZENHOME/var/*.zec, start zenoss
[14-Aug-2008 15:13:58] <ericnewton> if that doesn't fix it, your database is hectored
[14-Aug-2008 15:14:38] <MmeNetView> Does anyone have the MIB Browser ZenPack working on 2.2.0?
[14-Aug-2008 15:15:05] <mrayzenoss> I tested it with 2.2.0 a bit, there seems to be an issue with uninstalling it
[14-Aug-2008 15:15:16] <Sain0rs> on a related note, any plans to update the zenmib import process to automatically import dependent mibs?
[14-Aug-2008 15:15:51] <MmeNetView> Correct - it fails to uninstall - thread running on forum
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:07] <MmeNetView> I aslo don't see any MIB tree...
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:18] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: you don't get the pop-up?
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:28] <__ian__> MajereDB8: Looks like the zenpop3 tickets didn't have a milestone associated with them in Trac, which means they don't get looked at very often.
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:50] <IoNu|z> now... zenactions won`t start
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:51] <__ian__> I'm setting them to 2.3.
[14-Aug-2008 15:16:51] <MmeNetView> I get the popup but the MIB tree part at the bottom is empty - or possibly truncated / not rendered properly
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:18] <ericnewton> zenpop is not going to happen in 2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:27] <IoNu|z> this is what it says when i do zenactions run
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:28] <IoNu|z> http://pastebin.com/d1ac5bbc6
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:33] <mrayzenoss> Sain0rs: Do you actually need to MIBs? They're not really needed for monitoring, just for parsing traps
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:39] <__ian__> ericnewton: No, it won't, but it'll get reviewed.
[14-Aug-2008 15:17:39] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:19:13] <MajereDB8> __ian__: i know you all have a lot on your plate, so i appreciate that you're at least reviewing it. if i can get zenpop working, it would allow me to monitor and acknowledge events from my cell phone or other sms devices, which is a really killer feature
[14-Aug-2008 15:19:57] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I could see it not working for everything, it's a community ZenPack that the user wrote from scratch. It's cool, but possibly buggy
[14-Aug-2008 15:20:15] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: of course not being to uninstall it is annoying
[14-Aug-2008 15:20:18] <MajereDB8> sadly i suck at python so i'm just the average feature requester :-\. but i appreciate it!
[14-Aug-2008 15:20:55] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I'll see about a fix for uninstalling it cleanly
[14-Aug-2008 15:21:30] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I'll post it to the thread once it's documented
[14-Aug-2008 15:21:51] <MmeNetView> Great - thanks. If you saw the MIB tree, do you know what browser you used? I have Firefox 2.0.0.6
[14-Aug-2008 15:22:47] <mrayzenoss> it was probably FireFox 2.0.X when I first used it, now I'm on 3.01
[14-Aug-2008 15:23:00] <IoNu|z> why won`t my zenactions start?
[14-Aug-2008 15:23:31] <mrayzenoss> I also took the screenshots on the MibBrowser page with Safari
[14-Aug-2008 15:23:58] <__ian__> member:identifier:ionu|z: Looking at it
[14-Aug-2008 15:24:05] <IoNu|z> thank you
[14-Aug-2008 15:24:34] <mrayzenoss> Any OSX users? I'm running a short beta test of our OSX installer if there are any volunteers
[14-Aug-2008 15:26:07] <jb> nope
[14-Aug-2008 15:26:13] <chudler> mray: I don't have OSX Server but I'll give it a shot on just OSX if you want
[14-Aug-2008 15:26:33] <mrayzenoss> chudler: Thanks. The more people who check it out the better
[14-Aug-2008 15:27:46] <MmeNetView> How do I create a signature to add to forum entries?
[14-Aug-2008 15:28:08] <__ian__> MmeNetView: If you figure it out, let me know. I was baffled by that last week.
[14-Aug-2008 15:28:09] <MmeNetView> I have the box ticked that says to add the signature, but I can't see how to create one.
[14-Aug-2008 15:28:25] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[14-Aug-2008 15:29:26] <MmeNetView> I think Matt has it as his entries all seem to have a signature....
[14-Aug-2008 15:29:32] <mrayzenoss> I just turned on my signature in Profile->Preferences
[14-Aug-2008 15:29:51] <mrayzenoss> but I don't see a box for where to put a signature
[14-Aug-2008 15:30:15] <__ian__> IoNu|z: Can you try running zenactions with debugging? zenactions run -v10
[14-Aug-2008 15:30:28] <mrayzenoss> You can also subscribe to the forums via email, and use your email signature
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:13] <MmeNetView> Yup - I have the Profile-> Preferences ticked but no signature
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:13] <IoNu|z> sure
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:16] <IoNu|z> here it is http://pastebin.com/d5fa6e9c5
[14-Aug-2008 15:31:25] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 15:32:11] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I can't find it. We are investigating replacements for the forums and community website right now, so this is a temporary issue
[14-Aug-2008 15:32:34] <mib_cvxhwq> I created a new Threshold called "propVirtual" which is how the IpInterface Type is called...and I did not set any Max & MIn thresholds, this should have worked to handle the Vlan percentage threshold....why is it not?
[14-Aug-2008 15:32:54] <IoNu|z> i thimnk it was my stupid schedule
[14-Aug-2008 15:33:20] <IoNu|z> modified that and now it starts
[14-Aug-2008 15:33:24] <__ian__> Yeah, it was the schedule
[14-Aug-2008 15:33:48] <__ian__> What did you modify to make it work?
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:14] <IoNu|z> the schedule
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:17] <IoNu|z> on alerting rules
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:21] <mib_cvxhwq> The template that I am using are the defaults plus the one I created..."propVirtual" ...do I have to dele the one called :ethernetMcsda" ?
[14-Aug-2008 15:34:24] <IoNu|z> the duration of it
[14-Aug-2008 15:35:06] <IoNu|z> now... why am i getting Error reading value for "VLANXX" on device (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[14-Aug-2008 15:35:25] <mib_cvxhwq> I do get the same errors with Vlans
[14-Aug-2008 15:35:47] <IoNu|z> i shouldn`t monitor vlans?
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:16] <IoNu|z> but some of the vlans work
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:17] <mib_cvxhwq> the problem with Vlans i sthat they are different type interface
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:38] <IoNu|z> it`s very hard because they are both type ethernetCsmacd
[14-Aug-2008 15:36:49] <IoNu|z> i can`t make a different template for it
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:11] <mib_cvxhwq> and the soultion has been for me what I typed before...but they are not longer working with version 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:11] <IoNu|z> i would need to chnage the template for each vlan
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:14] <ericnewton> you can change the modeler plugin to lie and make it a different type
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:20] <mib_cvxhwq> yesy you can..
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:32] <IoNu|z> oh
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:50] <IoNu|z> is there a tutorial somewhere?
[14-Aug-2008 15:37:55] <ericnewton> it's not ideal, *cough*, *kludge* , but it works
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:00] <mib_cvxhwq> click on devices...then templates...select Etherent template and then from menu select copy
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:10] <mrayzenoss> chet was working on a fix for this I believe, but I think it was targeted for 2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:27] <mib_cvxhwq> and the place it on the context of the device you are working with
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:34] <IoNu|z> oh yes...
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:42] <IoNu|z> but i would have to do that for each device...
[14-Aug-2008 15:38:47] <IoNu|z> right?
[14-Aug-2008 15:39:10] <IoNu|z> doesn`t matter not such a big issue
[14-Aug-2008 15:39:23] <mib_cvxhwq> not really like for my switches I have copied to NETWORKS location..
[14-Aug-2008 15:39:50] <mib_cvxhwq> also you need to rename your Template "propVirtual"
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:12] <IoNu|z> oh that`s another one
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:17] <IoNu|z> thioes vlans work
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:17] <mib_cvxhwq> then modified the template by removing the threshold..
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:37] <IoNu|z> does zenoss core alert when an interface goes down?
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:42] <mib_cvxhwq> then you are done
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:44] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I just pulled up a 2.2.0 VM and installed the MibBrowser ZenPack on it and loaded up a Mib with no issues. FF 3.0.1. Which MIB were you using?
[14-Aug-2008 15:40:47] <otakup0pe> oh come to think of t i have a question for devs. what's the process here, just dump it irc, or do we take numbers, or do you previously have to have bought a developer a drink
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:11] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: we try to make everybody happy
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:12] <__ian__> IoNu|z: Yes, it ought to.
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:22] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: What's the problem?
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:28] <MmeNetView> chipcom - I'll try another one
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:30] <otakup0pe> ok quick question then. i moved a device from one device group to another.
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:46] <otakup0pe> and when i'm in the 'device overview' the alerts for the device that was moved
[14-Aug-2008 15:41:51] <otakup0pe> show up in both the count for the old and the new group
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:06] <mib_cvxhwq> mrayzenoss: can you look at my situation please
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:11] <IoNu|z> well i have this Voice Over IP Peer and wehn i shut it off zenoss doesn`t alert me that it`s down...
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:13] <otakup0pe> is the solution delete/recreate the device (which although it seems logical i have not tried)
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:30] <IoNu|z> did i miss some steps maybe?
[14-Aug-2008 15:42:45] <mrayzenoss> mib_cvxhwq: PM me and I'll get you some followup
[14-Aug-2008 15:43:01] <IoNu|z> the type of the ipinterface is Voice Over IP Encapulation .. at least that`s what zenoss shows for it
[14-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <IoNu|z> in the cisco it is a dial peer
[14-Aug-2008 15:45:10] <__ian__> Do any events get thrown when you shut it off? Or does it just not notice at all?
[14-Aug-2008 15:45:25] <IoNu|z> i don`t see any notices
[14-Aug-2008 15:46:26] <IoNu|z> i do see it down when i remodel the device....
[14-Aug-2008 15:53:37] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: could you just acknowledge the events and move them to history?
[14-Aug-2008 15:53:49] <mrayzenoss> or are you getting double alerts?
[14-Aug-2008 15:54:06] <mrayzenoss> err, events
[14-Aug-2008 15:54:34] <mib_cvxhwq> I have version 2.2.3 installed and a backup from version 2.2 can I restore it safely?
[14-Aug-2008 15:55:25] <jb> i tried..
[14-Aug-2008 15:55:26] <jb> didnt work for me..
[14-Aug-2008 15:55:40] <mib_cvxhwq> jb..is that answer for me..
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:06] <jb> yes
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:06] <mib_cvxhwq> thanks
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:13] <jb> i have had 0 luck with zenbackup/zenrestore
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:33] <mib_cvxhwq> I just can't find sa way to do it..
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:39] <jb> even from 2.2.3 <-> 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:56:58] <mib_cvxhwq> really
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:03] <Sain0rs> any errors during the backup?
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:07] <mrayzenoss> jb: where you going from source->stack?
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:10] <MmeNetView> In 2.2, how do I track zenwinmodeler? It doesn't seem to run as a daemon
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:12] <jb> i did a zenback up 2.2.3, no errors..
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:18] <jb> then did a zenrestore to 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:21] <jb> no errors, but no devices
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:25] <mib_cvxhwq> from stack to stack
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:26] <jb> stack <-> stack
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:26] <MmeNetView> It doesn't appear in the Daemons page under Settings
[14-Aug-2008 15:57:42] <MmeNetView> it doesn't have a logfile
[14-Aug-2008 15:58:09] <MmeNetView> .. and it doesn't seem to poll periodicallyt for wmi services
[14-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <nate187> has anyone done any work with integrating radar images into the map?
[14-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <MmeNetView> It does seem to run on-demand if you actively remodel a device
[14-Aug-2008 15:59:33] <mib_cvxhwq> I want the data and settings from 2.2 stack version in a backup file to restore to stack version 2.2.3 is that something that can be done safely?
[14-Aug-2008 16:00:57] <mrayzenoss> zenbackup and zenrestore should be working, send me an email and I'll get this looked at
[14-Aug-2008 16:01:21] <jb> k
[14-Aug-2008 16:01:26] <jb> whats your email address?
[14-Aug-2008 16:02:10] <Sain0rs> what are the odds backing up from 2.2 source and restoring to 2.2.3 stack is going to work?
[14-Aug-2008 16:02:46] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[14-Aug-2008 16:03:45] <otakup0pe> mrayzenoss: double alerts
[14-Aug-2008 16:03:54] <otakup0pe> i have to commute but if you pm me responses that would be awesome <3
[14-Aug-2008 16:04:22] <mrayzenoss> otakup0pe: Send me an email to followup
[14-Aug-2008 16:04:30] <mrayzenoss> I've got a lot of followups to do
[14-Aug-2008 16:04:50] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: it appears there is an error in our documentation
[14-Aug-2008 16:05:21] <__ian__> mib_cvxhwq: Should work as long as zenmigrate is run
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:12] <__ian__> Sain0rs: We've tested that pretty well, so it should work fine.
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:21] <Sain0rs> sweet
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:26] <mib_cvxhwq> _ian_ :zenmigrate is run after the restore?
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:34] <MmeNetView> Which error are you referring to??
[14-Aug-2008 16:06:56] <__ian__> mib_cvxhwq: Yes. I think restore runs it automatically, but it can't hurt to make sure.
[14-Aug-2008 16:07:15] <mib_cvxhwq> very cool
[14-Aug-2008 16:07:19] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: I'm looking at the ZenWinModeler question
[14-Aug-2008 16:08:28] <mib_cvxhwq> does anyone know the Uninstall command for Zenoss-stack ver. 2.2.3?
[14-Aug-2008 16:08:43] <mib_cvxhwq> I am using CEntOS 5.2
[14-Aug-2008 16:08:46] <nate187> rm -rf *
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:24] <mrayzenoss> ZenWinModeler is called by ZenModeler on demand, so no daemon
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:27] <mrayzenoss> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:30] <zanaga> is there a way to easily make the database consistent again? Our database has some entries that cause grief due to missing references. zenbackup/restore just restores the same broken database.
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:43] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:09:43] <mrayzenoss> oops, wrong thread
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:08] <mrayzenoss> mib_cvxhwq: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23104
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:23] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Uninstall Zenoss from CentOS 5 (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:27] <__ian__> zanaga: You can try rebuilding the relations and reindexing.
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:50] <zanaga> __ian__: how do i rebuild the relations? reindexing alone doesn't help.
[14-Aug-2008 16:10:59] <__ian__> the latter first, actually. What kind of objects are the problem?
[14-Aug-2008 16:11:49] <MmeNetView> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402 - maybe right thread - seems to have an answer there anyway - will try
[14-Aug-2008 16:11:50] <zanaga> __ian__: let me pull an actual error for you.
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:22] <mib_cvxhwq> Thank you mrayzenoss...you are on the ball today...thank you for making this forum alive again !!
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:39] <mrayzenoss> Thanks!
[14-Aug-2008 16:12:55] <mib_cvxhwq> I got 2 for 2 today..
[14-Aug-2008 16:13:14] <jb> now we just need better forums!
[14-Aug-2008 16:13:24] <jb> (faster, better search, etc)
[14-Aug-2008 16:14:12] <mrayzenoss> Ian and I are going to have to wrap up today, we're going to try to have a dedicated session like this every 2 weeks. A log will be added to the blog.zenoss.com and the IRC page http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/irc
[14-Aug-2008 16:14:19] <__adytum-bot__> Title: IRC - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:14:21] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'm working on that
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:10] <MmeNetView> Still not sure where we are on zenwinmodeler???
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:34] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: ZenModeler calls ZenWinModeler, no ZenWinModeler daemon
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:45] <mrayzenoss> MmeNetView: was there more to the question?
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:50] <zanaga> __ian__: http://pastebin.com/m6373fc9 <- that is from installing HelloWorld zenpacjk
[14-Aug-2008 16:15:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[14-Aug-2008 16:16:26] <MmeNetView> thanks - why does it not find down services is, I guess, the remaining question..
[14-Aug-2008 16:16:42] <MmeNetView> There seem to be several threads about flaky WMI
[14-Aug-2008 16:16:58] <ericnewton> wmi is a big focus of current development
[14-Aug-2008 16:17:02] <mrayzenoss> WMI is actively being worked on
[14-Aug-2008 16:17:34] <zanaga> __ian__: those things are all over the place.. luckily things work at the moment, but it's always an interesting moment to install zenpacks
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:18] <mrayzenoss> zanaga: Humor me, I assume you're running x86?
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:22] <__ian__> zanaga: all zenpacks, or just HelloWorld?
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:32] <zanaga> __ian__: most zenpacks..
[14-Aug-2008 16:19:55] <zanaga> __ian__: i've managed to fix things enough to get some zenpacks installed
[14-Aug-2008 16:20:04] <zanaga> mrayzenoss: yup
[14-Aug-2008 16:20:46] <mrayzenoss> Why don't we follow up on this in the forums? zanaga could you post a recap in the forums or send me an email and we'll get more eyes on it there?
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:23] <zanaga> sure..
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:41] <mrayzenoss> Thanks again everyone, later!
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:49] <__ian__> Later all.
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:50] <jb> seeya
[14-Aug-2008 16:21:53] <jb> thanks, guys..
[14-Aug-2008 16:22:02] <MmeNetView> Thanks - cheers!
[14-Aug-2008 16:35:38] <IoNu|z> wouldn`t it be better if the Device name would be taken from sysName ?
[14-Aug-2008 16:35:46] <IoNu|z> instead of teh dns name?
[14-Aug-2008 16:40:23] <mib_cvxhwq> in Zenoss-stack 2.2.3....how do I restore? I do see a menu option to backup..but not to restore..thank you
[14-Aug-2008 16:41:23] <IoNu|z> zenrestore --file the filename
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:11] <mib_cvxhwq> as a zenoss user or root?
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:21] <IoNu|z> zenoss user
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:25] <mib_cvxhwq> thanks
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:37] <IoNu|z> make sure you`ve stopped zenoss processes before you do that
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:42] <mib_cvxhwq> do I have to invove migrate after that?
[14-Aug-2008 16:42:53] <mib_cvxhwq> invove=invoke
[14-Aug-2008 16:43:05] <IoNu|z> i don`t think so
[14-Aug-2008 16:43:09] <IoNu|z> i didn`t...
[14-Aug-2008 16:43:11] <mib_cvxhwq> thanks
[14-Aug-2008 17:33:08] <cgibbons> hmm'
[14-Aug-2008 17:42:26] <jatindergiri> Hello, I have problem with syslog, right now I have few servers they send all the syslog to zenoss. However, those servers go through one firewall which is natting those servers before it gets to zenoss, therefore those server's logs show up under one device (firewall). Is there a way to get around this?
[14-Aug-2008 17:54:28] <mib_cvxhwq> where is zenrestore file stored in centos 5.2?
[14-Aug-2008 17:55:54] <Sain0rs> /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/bin ?
[14-Aug-2008 18:15:46] <knakka> hi
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:00] <knakka> how to populate the hardware tab for cisco devices
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:13] <knakka> don't see anything on my zenoss 2.2.3
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:15] <nate187> interfaces are on the os tab
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:35] <knakka> have all the mibs and everything seems fine (graphs, etc)
[14-Aug-2008 18:16:56] <knakka> i mean the line cards flash memory
[14-Aug-2008 18:17:44] <knakka> like flexWAN module on a 6000 series
[14-Aug-2008 18:43:07] <mib_cvxhwq> I got it..
[14-Aug-2008 18:43:11] <mib_cvxhwq> thanx
[14-Aug-2008 18:45:43] <mib_cvxhwq> I am logged in as a zenoss user and I am in the /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/bin/ directory where zenrestore resides..when I issue the command...zenrestore --file /usr/locla/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[14-Aug-2008 18:46:19] <mib_cvxhwq> I get an error ....-bash: zenrestore: command not found
[14-Aug-2008 18:46:47] <mib_cvxhwq> can anyone help
[14-Aug-2008 18:47:35] <mib_cvxhwq> ?
[14-Aug-2008 18:48:55] <cciew1> use ./
[14-Aug-2008 18:49:06] <cciew1> ./zenrestore if you are sitting in that directory
[14-Aug-2008 18:50:09] <nate187> anyone know of any attempts to integrate weather radar images into the map?
[14-Aug-2008 18:50:25] <mib_cvxhwq> geez...thankz
[14-Aug-2008 18:51:33] <cciew1> np
[14-Aug-2008 18:54:26] <mib_cvxhwq> it needs mysqld running when I am trying to restore..
[14-Aug-2008 18:54:46] <mib_cvxhwq> how do I start it as a zenoss user?
[14-Aug-2008 19:12:26] <cciew1> mlb: su zenoss
[14-Aug-2008 20:38:11] <nate187> is there a way to prevent zenoss from remodeling a device or an entire device class at the defined modeler cycle interval, while continuing to model everything else?
[14-Aug-2008 20:51:22] <cluther> nate187: Remove all of the zCollectorPlugins from that device or class.
[14-Aug-2008 20:51:43] <nate187> aha
[14-Aug-2008 21:31:14] <jb> hrm
[14-Aug-2008 21:31:39] <jb> zenperfsnmp is really making me angry
[14-Aug-2008 22:02:40] <jeffspeff> how would you setup zenoss core to work with systems outside of the network? i have a small (but growing) computer/networking company, and i'm wanting to start being able to monitor certain critical systems of my clients. but i don't want to have to setup a vpn. can zenoss do that?
[14-Aug-2008 22:04:29] <jb> do you have direct access to the machines?
[14-Aug-2008 22:04:34] <jb> are they accessible via the internet?
[14-Aug-2008 22:06:20] <shaskell> are you wanting to setup a zenoss core server that monitors client machines, over the Internet?
[14-Aug-2008 22:07:12] <jeffspeff> shaskell, yes
[14-Aug-2008 22:07:17] <shaskell> as long as the machines are routable, you should be able to monitor them... I'd be concerned about the security implications though, especially for your clients having machines publically accessible
[14-Aug-2008 22:08:28] <cluther>
[14-Aug-2008 22:08:45] <shaskell> you may also suffer some pain if the links are slow.... SNMP timeouts, whatnot
[14-Aug-2008 22:09:20] <jeffspeff> shaskell, the entire systems wouldn't be publicly accessible, just the zenoss part. is the snmp security not good? i'm not familiar with zenoss or snmp. several of the systems are on a fiber connection, the others are on cable.
[14-Aug-2008 22:10:01] <jeffspeff> for security reasons, would i need to setup a vpn and go that route?
[14-Aug-2008 22:10:22] <shaskell> I'd go the VPN route, yes... you could use SNMP V3 for better security, too
[14-Aug-2008 22:11:06] <shaskell> VPN can be an extra headache, but it's much safer for you and your clients to have a point-to-point VPN for this stuff
[14-Aug-2008 22:14:01] <shaskell> I guess I'm not understanding what you want to do... do you want to install zenoss servers on site at your clients and just manage them remotely?
[14-Aug-2008 22:15:11] <jeffspeff> shaskell, i'm wanting to install zenoss on one of my servers in my office, and remotely manage client servers
[14-Aug-2008 22:15:27] <shaskell> ah, okay... that's what I thought, initally
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:18] <jeffspeff> you know, it may be easier to just install a zenoss server at each clients office and login to that server remotely to manage everything
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:28] <shaskell> I'd recommend that
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:32] <jeffspeff> that seems like alot less hassle and headache
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:38] <shaskell> yeah, much better performance, to
[14-Aug-2008 22:16:39] <shaskell> too
[14-Aug-2008 22:17:01] <jeffspeff> is there a windows port? only one of my clients is running a linux server
[14-Aug-2008 22:18:16] <shaskell> I believe there's a VMware version for Windows
[14-Aug-2008 22:20:20] Cosmin is now known as IoNu|z
[14-Aug-2008 22:20:29] <IoNu|z> how do i make the lines betwwen the cities?
[14-Aug-2008 22:22:58] <jeffspeff> shaskell, i've been playing with the vmware appliance, it seems ok, don't really like the rappliance (or whatever it's called) thing about it.
[14-Aug-2008 22:23:47] <jeffspeff> also, anybody know how to get the paging thing to work? is feature able to send a text message to my cell instead of an actual pager?
[14-Aug-2008 22:25:39] <kgoedtel> what carrier do you have?
[14-Aug-2008 22:25:56] <shaskell> yeah, you should just be able to email the text to your phone email address
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:08] <kgoedtel> yeah, that's what i do
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:19] <shaskell> 123456789@mycingular.com or whatever
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:21] <shaskell> mobile.att.com
[14-Aug-2008 22:26:25] <shaskell> I'm not sure what they all are
[14-Aug-2008 22:27:18] <kgoedtel> i have tmobile and it is xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net
[14-Aug-2008 22:27:53] <kgoedtel> im assuming all carriers have something similar
[14-Aug-2008 22:28:10] <shaskell> yeah, you should be able to just google the right domain for your carrier
[14-Aug-2008 22:30:12] <jeffspeff> oh, didn't know that, i have cingular/att...
[14-Aug-2008 22:35:18] <jeffspeff> if anybody was wandering, the cingular address is now phonenumber@txt.att.net
[14-Aug-2008 22:35:48] <shaskell> yeah, try your full phone number (area code included, without the 1 prefix) @mycingular.com
[14-Aug-2008 22:38:33] <jeffspeff> rejected by server as inproper reciepient
[14-Aug-2008 22:38:52] <jeffspeff> also got a DNS Error: Domain name not found
[14-Aug-2008 22:39:40] <jeffspeff> wait, i typed clingular... lol
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> this time i got a <2705649026@mycingular.com>:
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> 204.9.89.142 does not like recipient.
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> Remote host said: 550 <2705649026@mycingular.com>...user unknown
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:07] <jeffspeff> Giving up on 204.9.89.142.
[14-Aug-2008 22:40:28] <jeffspeff> woops sorry about that, forgot to take out the breaks
[14-Aug-2008 22:41:33] <jeffspeff> shaskell, are there any real big advantages with zenoss enterprise as opposed to zenoss core that i would need for what i'm doing?
[14-Aug-2008 22:49:09] troy42 is now known as troy
[14-Aug-2008 23:09:42] <shaskell> try text.att.net
[14-Aug-2008 23:24:13] <cbleach> Anyone able to get layer 3 dependencies working correctly?
[14-Aug-2008 23:25:16] <cbleach> Zenoss seems to be aware of the network topology - had discovered the netowork topology correctly., but does not supres events correctly.
[14-Aug-2008 23:45:07] <jeffspeff> shaskell, are there any real big advantages with zenoss enterprise as opposed to zenoss core that i would need for what i'm doing?
[14-Aug-2008 23:46:03] <shaskell> I guess it depends on how technical you are... you'll get support with Enterprise and the forums/IRC are your support with core
[14-Aug-2008 23:46:40] <shaskell> so if you're not familiar with scripting/SNMP/Linux/monitoring systems
[14-Aug-2008 23:46:49] <shaskell> it may be a steep learning curve
[14-Aug-2008 23:47:33] <shaskell> and even though it's a great product, there are still lots of small issues/quirks that are tough to track down
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[15-Aug-2008 00:03:25] <cbleach> Is there a way to print the pingtree that zenoss uses for dependencies?
[15-Aug-2008 00:46:38] <cbleach> in case anyone else has this problem you can achive this with the buildTree function from Products.ZenStatus.pingtree
[15-Aug-2008 04:06:24] <Dorado> I am new to the world of zope and OOP. I have read through the zope developers guide and have a basic grasp on the concepts but I am struggling with not having functions like I would in perl/php.
[15-Aug-2008 04:07:32] <Dorado> does anyone know of a doc that would help me understand how to retrive data from a remote part (context) of the zope system?
[15-Aug-2008 04:13:50] <DaveTo1> hi
[15-Aug-2008 04:13:55] <DaveTo1> hmm
[15-Aug-2008 04:14:27] <Dorado> for example various skin files (Products/ZenModel/skins/zenomdel) call getInterfaceName() from Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py I am trying to access this data from Products/DataCollector and other (non-ZenModel) parts of the system?
[15-Aug-2008 04:14:36] <Dorado> DaveTo1: I am here?
[15-Aug-2008 04:14:49] <Dorado> not much else going on though.
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[15-Aug-2008 04:30:20] <DaveTo1> no
[15-Aug-2008 04:30:34] <DaveTo1> I'm trying to figure out how to run the vmware appliance on esx
[15-Aug-2008 04:30:36] <DaveTo1> if I can
[15-Aug-2008 05:17:29] <Dorado> We run the appliance, our infrastructure team imported it, they didnt complain so I guess they didnt have too much trouble.
[15-Aug-2008 05:17:39] <Dorado> but they do esx every day....
[15-Aug-2008 07:44:14] jane_ is now known as Jane_Curry
[15-Aug-2008 07:48:03] Jane_Curry is now known as MmeNetView
[15-Aug-2008 12:37:53] <pb1dft> anyone awake
[15-Aug-2008 12:38:22] <cgibbons> barely
[15-Aug-2008 12:39:33] <Dorado> sometimes
[15-Aug-2008 12:39:55] <pb1dft> lol
[15-Aug-2008 12:40:04] <pb1dft> nvm for a sec might have found my problem
[15-Aug-2008 12:48:42] <mib_arkdum> I am using zenoss-stack 2.2.3 I am trying to restore from zenoss-tack version 2.2, I have to stop zenoss daemons but I need to Mysql running to do the restore. Question: how do I stop zenoss and have MYSQLD running in the background at the same time?
[15-Aug-2008 12:49:57] <mib_arkdum> using root: /etc/init.d/zenoss-stack stop, will stop everything including mysqld.
[15-Aug-2008 12:53:06] <nemo_> why not start mysql again, just on its own ?
[15-Aug-2008 13:07:54] <mib_arkdum> how do I do that..
[15-Aug-2008 13:08:08] <mib_arkdum> I tried it as root user..
[15-Aug-2008 13:08:20] <mib_arkdum> and zenoss user and get he same response
[15-Aug-2008 13:09:40] <mib_arkdum> "no such file or directory"
[15-Aug-2008 13:11:40] <nemo_> google : how to restart mysql
[15-Aug-2008 13:11:47] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-869.html
[15-Aug-2008 13:13:52] <pb1dft> mib_arkdum: /usr/local/zenoss/zenconsole
[15-Aug-2008 13:14:06] <pb1dft> mib_arkdum: zenoss stop
[15-Aug-2008 13:14:18] <pb1dft> should stop all deamon except mysql
[15-Aug-2008 13:14:34] <pb1dft> at least it does here
[15-Aug-2008 13:15:07] <cgibbons> the stack installs are different
[15-Aug-2008 13:15:22] <pb1dft> i run a stack install myself
[15-Aug-2008 13:19:41] <baffle> su - zenoss ; zenoss stop
[15-Aug-2008 13:19:54] <baffle> cgibbons: That is on my stack at least.
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:07] <cgibbons> yep
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:13] <pb1dft> thats the same as starting the zenconsole
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:29] <pb1dft> except all env get loaded in zenconsole
[15-Aug-2008 13:20:50] <mib_arkdum> Thanks pb1dft: good answer
[15-Aug-2008 13:21:04] <pb1dft> np
[15-Aug-2008 13:22:01] <mib_arkdum> iI was on the mind set that MYSQL was also stopped at the zenoss-stack stop command, but that is not the case apparently
[15-Aug-2008 13:23:19] <mib_arkdum> can anyone explain this to me please...when I got from the user root to the zenoss user....root>su - zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:23:55] <mib_arkdum> this is what I get
[15-Aug-2008 13:23:59] <mib_arkdum> [root@zenmon ~]# su - zenoss -bash: /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh.: No such file or directory [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:20] <pb1dft> mib_arkdum: chmod +x /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:26] <mib_arkdum> nevertheless the promt changes to zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:31] <pb1dft> chown zenoss.zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:24:52] <mib_arkdum> is that a bug or something like that
[15-Aug-2008 13:25:08] <pb1dft> bug
[15-Aug-2008 13:25:47] <mib_arkdum> oh..thankyou I was on the path of thinking it was a bad installation
[15-Aug-2008 13:26:08] <mib_arkdum> you are really on the pb1dft !!!
[15-Aug-2008 13:26:25] <mib_arkdum> Do you work for them Zenmasters?
[15-Aug-2008 13:28:36] <pb1dft> No but i would like some more tech persons in here to helpout with the really diff shit
[15-Aug-2008 13:29:33] <pb1dft> have to drive home
[15-Aug-2008 13:33:59] <cgibbons> there's quite a few zenoss employees that hang out here but they aren't always paying attention
[15-Aug-2008 13:34:40] <nemo_> well i understand why
[15-Aug-2008 13:35:03] <nemo_> dont you get bored of the same old questions, etc. if its in google i wouldnt support it either
[15-Aug-2008 13:35:46] <cgibbons> i think it's a lot less of that than just being busy with other tasks
[15-Aug-2008 13:37:31] <cgibbons> after all if the same questions come up over and over it's usually a sign the software needs to be fixed so that isn't an issue. even if it's basic 'im too lazy to read the manual' stuff
[15-Aug-2008 13:37:49] <nemo_> i assure you thats most of the questions i see here
[15-Aug-2008 13:38:33] <cgibbons> what's obvious to you is still often something that needs to be addressed differently
[15-Aug-2008 13:38:59] <cgibbons> like say.... those evil page and table menus we hav
[15-Aug-2008 13:40:25] <nemo_> thats ok
[15-Aug-2008 13:40:33] <nemo_> its each persons concience guiding them
[15-Aug-2008 13:40:43] <nemo_> i got no problems telling people to go find it on google
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:00] <mib_arkdum> I agreed nemo_ but sometimes zenoss have problems explaining themselves, one good example is the zenoss manual
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:05] <cgibbons> it does often make you wonder why a google search isn't the first thing people try. if it's not on the first page of results i can see punting but shoot it's so quick to do.
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:35] <nemo_> mib_arkdum, whatever, it doesnt mean that i should spend my time doing it when someone is too lazy to do it themselves
[15-Aug-2008 13:42:45] <nemo_> e.g. restarting mysql outside of zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:44:23] <nemo_> cgibbons, google results will largely be better quality anyway
[15-Aug-2008 13:44:47] <mib_arkdum> it is not so simple as it sounds...I was working with zenoss prior to version 2 and I always was able to stop mysql with the simple /etc/init.d/mysqld stop
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:05] <mib_arkdum> that way no longer works..it is fair to ask the question
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:07] <nemo_> mib_arkdum, you can argue if you want
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:09] <cgibbons> yep
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:15] <nemo_> its not my responsibility
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:18] <nemo_> i PAY for zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:23] <mib_arkdum> nobody is arguing
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:24] <nemo_> why do i want to work for free ?
[15-Aug-2008 13:45:53] <nemo_> zenoss might want to either say this is not a support channel
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:06] <nemo_> or bring in the zenoss boys and have them offer official support
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:15] <nemo_> but i sit here and get peoples demands
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:20] <nemo_> and ignore them ;0
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:22] <nemo_>
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:23] <mib_arkdum> you are having a bad day...we all do somtime or another
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:30] <nemo_> no bad day
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:33] <nemo_> i think you have one
[15-Aug-2008 13:46:40] <nemo_> my zenoss is running well
[15-Aug-2008 13:47:07] <mib_arkdum> Actually not...I just dont get the abrasiveness, I am not used to that
[15-Aug-2008 13:47:30] <mib_arkdum> I love IRC because of the social interaction
[15-Aug-2008 13:47:47] <nemo_> when you learn to restart a service , i might listen to you
[15-Aug-2008 13:48:01] <mib_arkdum> as I said we all have bad days
[15-Aug-2008 13:48:27] <nemo_> right oh
[15-Aug-2008 13:49:38] <cciew1> sigh
[15-Aug-2008 13:49:51] <mib_arkdum> when I change from rot user to zenoss, I get this:
[15-Aug-2008 13:50:23] <mib_arkdum> -bash: /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh.: No such file or directory [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 13:50:46] <mib_arkdum> I just followed some suggetions:
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:19] <mib_arkdum> chmod +x /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:31] <nemo_> why do that
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:35] <nemo_> read the error
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:40] <nemo_> no such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 13:51:40] <mib_arkdum> chown zenoss.zenoss /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:01] <mib_arkdum> well the file is there, the one is been called for..
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:13] <mib_arkdum> and it is inthe path..
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:18] <nemo_> run your script sh -x script.sh
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:39] <nemo_> might give you more info, but if you get that error, it wont be chmodding
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:46] <mib_arkdum> setenv.sh script?
[15-Aug-2008 13:52:55] <nemo_> you would get a permission denied error or so in that case
[15-Aug-2008 13:53:08] <mib_arkdum> let me try..
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[15-Aug-2008 14:37:46] <ahorkan> can someone help me please with an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2?
[15-Aug-2008 14:38:01] <ahorkan> im getting an error in the install.sh script
[15-Aug-2008 14:38:06] <ahorkan> not sure what the problem is
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:13] <ahorkan> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:33] <MrTux> ahorkan: you must give the install script the root password for mysql
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:35] <ahorkan> and
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:40] <ahorkan> ok
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:41] <ahorkan>
[15-Aug-2008 14:39:56] <ahorkan> whats the option to pass the install script?
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:06] <ahorkan> -p password?
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:17] <MrTux> ahorkan: usually it asks
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:37] <ahorkan> its an upgrade, it asks if I want to keep existing DB
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:40] <ahorkan> which I do want to
[15-Aug-2008 14:40:57] <ahorkan> I took a backup of the old one, it was running fine this morning on the same system
[15-Aug-2008 14:41:16] <ahorkan> so I say keep existing DB
[15-Aug-2008 14:41:27] <ahorkan> and I presume it tries to use settings from previous install
[15-Aug-2008 14:41:47] <MrTux> ahorkan: that's the zenoss internal db, not the mysql db, that's another one...
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:27] <DaveTo1> ahorkan:
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:32] <DaveTo1> don't upgrade !
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:33] <ahorkan> I get the mysql error and then a few lines later the script gives up
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:36] <DaveTo1> heh
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:51] <DaveTo1> ahorkan: how many systems are you monitoring?
[15-Aug-2008 14:42:56] DaveTo1 is now known as DaveToo
[15-Aug-2008 14:43:33] <ahorkan> 50 or so
[15-Aug-2008 14:43:43] <DaveToo> oh, then you probably won't have any trouble
[15-Aug-2008 14:44:18] <DaveToo> On the Mysql password thing ... I gave up on this problem with the upgrades
[15-Aug-2008 14:44:27] <DaveToo> and I now leave the mysql root password blank
[15-Aug-2008 14:44:46] <DaveToo> I hate it, but the upgrade script doesn't seem to have a way to specify the password
[15-Aug-2008 14:46:18] <ahorkan> damn
[15-Aug-2008 14:47:22] <ahorkan> how to I set my password blank. then change it back once the install is finished. Is there a config file for Zenoss that store the authentication ?
[15-Aug-2008 14:49:49] <DaveToo> unfortunately, I have to look at the MySQL docs every time I have to do this, 'cause I don't do it often enough to remember
[15-Aug-2008 14:55:36] <ahorkan> I found it cheers
[15-Aug-2008 14:55:43] <ahorkan> fingers crossed this time
[15-Aug-2008 14:57:56] <ahorkan> ok, I dont get the SQL error anymore but I get this one instead a few lines after :
[15-Aug-2008 14:57:57] <ahorkan> ZConfig.SchemaResourceError: could not load package ZODB: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/persistent/cPersistence.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:37] <ahorkan> its in the section where it says this at the start: Starting Zope Object Database
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:41] <DaveToo> how did you fix the password?
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:54] <ahorkan> reset root mysql to blank
[15-Aug-2008 14:58:58] <DaveToo> oh
[15-Aug-2008 14:59:11] <DaveToo> let me see if I can remember how I fixed that UCS2 thing....
[15-Aug-2008 14:59:11] <ahorkan> have to change that once its running again
[15-Aug-2008 15:01:07] <DaveToo> I think that error might be related to the need to update the zodb to a new version...
[15-Aug-2008 15:02:59] <DaveToo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4567&highlight=cpersistence+undefined&sid=6ff85ca29118562854d1ee7f41dfc9e4I
[15-Aug-2008 15:03:09] <DaveToo> (not as I remembered)
[15-Aug-2008 15:03:16] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Update to 2.1.70 fails on start (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Aug-2008 15:10:52] <ahorkan> ok, that got further, but now I get this:
[15-Aug-2008 15:10:55] <ahorkan> Error: 2.4 is not an existing path
[15-Aug-2008 15:10:55] <ahorkan> (line 41 in file:///usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf)
[15-Aug-2008 15:11:54] <ahorkan> zenoss@zenoss:~/zenoss-2.2.3$ /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py -h
[15-Aug-2008 15:11:54] <ahorkan> bash: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py: Permission denied
[15-Aug-2008 15:12:08] <ahorkan> any ideas anyone?
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:05] <DaveToo> did you do the chown and chmod to make certain things suid?
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:06] <ahorkan> :-D
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:13] <DaveToo> and are you operating as the zenoss user?
[15-Aug-2008 15:13:49] <ahorkan> the zenoss install folder?
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:00] <ahorkan> or /usr/local/zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:22] <DaveToo> did you "su" to "zenoss"?
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:24] <ahorkan> chown -R zenoss:zenoss /usr/local/zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 15:14:33] <ahorkan> yes I su to zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 15:15:30] <DaveToo> i don't remember which, but at the end of the install/upgrade script there's a message instructing you to make a file suid-root
[15-Aug-2008 15:15:59] <ahorkan> i didnt see that part yet
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:15] <mib_arkdum> can anyone tell me how to stop mysqld.....I am using ways that I know and it doe snot work..I am using the stack ver. 2.2.3, I tried as root the following /etc/init.d/mysqld stop
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:22] <mib_arkdum> service mysqld stop
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:45] <mib_arkdum> I just can't get it to work..
[15-Aug-2008 15:20:55] <mib_arkdum> this all changed withthe stack version
[15-Aug-2008 15:21:22] <jsm> i need to monitor disk I/O.. is it not possible with snmp?
[15-Aug-2008 15:23:58] <cgibbons> mib_arkddum: how about /usr/local/zenoss/mysql/scripts/ctl.sh stop or start?
[15-Aug-2008 15:24:39] <ahorkan> if I reinstall my system from scratch, what distro is best supported?
[15-Aug-2008 15:24:59] <ahorkan> the backup I have from 2.1, can I use that to restore my system to a fresh install of 2.2?
[15-Aug-2008 15:25:30] <ahorkan> im beginning to think a packaged rpm version of zenoss is going to be easier to administrate
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:04] <ahorkan> my install script still stops
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> Starting Zope Object Database
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> Error: 2.4 is not an existing path
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> (line 41 in file:///usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf)
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> For help, use /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py -h
[15-Aug-2008 15:26:44] <ahorkan> unable to start Zeo object database
[15-Aug-2008 15:28:04] <ahorkan> line 41 in zeo.conf is this:
[15-Aug-2008 15:28:08] <ahorkan> logfile $INSTANCE/log/zeo.log
[15-Aug-2008 15:31:02] <ahorkan> any ideas people:)
[15-Aug-2008 15:31:14] <ahorkan> really apreciate the help, this thing is driving me nuts
[15-Aug-2008 15:40:32] <ahorkan> does anyone know if the backup file can be restored to a 2.2 version from 2.1?
[15-Aug-2008 15:41:02] <mib_arkdum> cgibbons: that worked !! thanks
[15-Aug-2008 16:02:18] <mib_arkdum> What is wrong with this commnad? [zenoss@zenmon ~]$ ./zenrestore --file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:02:40] <mib_arkdum> -bash: ./zenrestore: No such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 16:02:52] <mib_arkdum> [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 16:03:20] <mib_arkdum> I am not able to executed as a zenoss user..
[15-Aug-2008 16:06:02] <cgibbons> where are you at when you run it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:09:49] <kgoedtel> wow really strange problem in zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 16:10:34] <kgoedtel> i have 2 systems that are generating performance reports as if they exist in 3 different systems groups
[15-Aug-2008 16:10:49] <kgoedtel> but i verified that they are both only in one
[15-Aug-2008 16:10:51] <kgoedtel> via
[15-Aug-2008 16:11:03] <kgoedtel> /zport/dmd/Systems/manage_workspace
[15-Aug-2008 16:13:16] <mib_arkdum> I am at /home/zenoss/
[15-Aug-2008 16:13:34] <MrTux> mib_arkdum: use $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore as pat
[15-Aug-2008 16:13:35] <MrTux> h
[15-Aug-2008 16:16:06] <mib_arkdum> so, would look like this: ./zenrestore --file $ZENHOME/bin/backups/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
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[15-Aug-2008 16:18:45] <MrTux> mib_arkdum: $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore --file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:19:23] <mib_arkdum> so, would look like this: $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backup/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:20:04] <mib_arkdum> oh thanks..I go you now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:21:36] <mib_arkdum> still no joy ...
[15-Aug-2008 16:22:10] <mib_arkdum> I am executing it as zenoss user...zenoss services are stopped and mysqld is running.\
[15-Aug-2008 16:27:58] <mib_arkdum> [zenoss@zenmon ~]$ $ZENHOME/bin/zenrestore --file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/backups/zenbackup_20080812.tgz
[15-Aug-2008 16:28:11] <mib_arkdum> -bash: /bin/zenrestore: No such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 16:28:24] <mib_arkdum> [zenoss@zenmon ~]$
[15-Aug-2008 16:29:16] <kso512> mib_arkdum: perhaps your $ZENHOME environment variable is not set?
[15-Aug-2008 16:29:38] <kso512> mib_arkdum: What response do you get when you enter "echo $ZENHOME" ?
[15-Aug-2008 16:29:49] <mib_arkdum> wait
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:25] <mib_arkdum> I just get and extra empty line
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:38] <mib_arkdum> like a hard return..
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:47] <kso512> mib_arkdum: That means your $ZENHOME environment variable is empty...
[15-Aug-2008 16:30:56] <mib_arkdum> do I have to be a zenoss user?
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:12] <mib_arkdum> how could it be..
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:22] <jb> yes.
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:26] <mib_arkdum> is that possible?
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:27] <kso512> mib_arkdum: That helps, but they're not intrinsically tied together...
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:35] <jb> $ZENHOME is set by the zen's profile
[15-Aug-2008 16:31:41] <jb> setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:14] <mib_arkdum> so If I reinstall zenoss, would that fix it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:32] <mib_arkdum> my data is backup from version 2.2
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:37] <jb> "su - zenoss" as root
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:41] <jb> and type echo $ZENHOME
[15-Aug-2008 16:32:54] <mib_arkdum> wait please
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:31] <mib_arkdum> -bash: /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh.: No such file or directory
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:38] <mib_arkdum> that is what I get
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:46] <jb> ls -la /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:33:54] <mib_arkdum> notice the trailing period on the script name
[15-Aug-2008 16:34:17] <mib_arkdum> does not match with the one in the setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:34:21] <jb> ls -la /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:34:22] <jb> heh
[15-Aug-2008 16:35:02] <mib_arkdum> hold please
[15-Aug-2008 16:35:28] <mib_arkdum> as a zenoss user
[15-Aug-2008 16:35:32] <mib_arkdum> -rwxr-xr-x 1 zenoss zenoss 1549 Aug 14 12:24 /usr/local/zenoss/scripts/setenv.sh
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:27] <jb> hm
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:30] <jb> chmod 644 it
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:36] <jb> and see if you can manually run it
[15-Aug-2008 16:36:48] <russbzenoss> you might want 755 to manually run it
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:01] <russbzenoss> but it's already 755, so i digress...
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:04] <jb> yeah..
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:08] <russbzenoss> what was calling it to begin with?
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:23] <russbzenoss> that might be a good place to look...maybe thats where the trailing "." came from
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:32] <mib_arkdum> so which one is it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:38] <jb> ~zenoss/.bashrc should be calling it
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:44] <mib_arkdum> 644 0r 755?
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:48] <russbzenoss> 755
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:48] <jb> its already 755..
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:52] <russbzenoss> but its already that way
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:55] <mib_arkdum> ok..
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:56] <russbzenoss> can you paste the .bashrc
[15-Aug-2008 16:37:56] <jb> can you manually run it?
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:00] <jb> and check .bashrc
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:23] <mib_arkdum> did you read my comment about the setenv.sh. having a trailing period
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:34] <jb> are you reading ours?
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:35] <jb>
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:40] <jb> check your .bashrc
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:49] <russbzenoss> i did see that...
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:56] <mib_arkdum> I did and it has the trailing period
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:57] <russbzenoss> can you type "cat ~/.bashrc"
[15-Aug-2008 16:38:59] <russbzenoss> ok
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:01] <russbzenoss> remove that
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:03] <russbzenoss> and then relogin
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:04] <jb> so remove the trailing period
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:09] <mib_arkdum> remove the period..?
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:10] <russbzenoss> and see if you still get the error
[15-Aug-2008 16:39:17] <mib_arkdum> give me a sec
[15-Aug-2008 16:41:17] <mib_arkdum> This is good so far...I do not get an error when I switch from root to zenoss user..
[15-Aug-2008 16:41:41] <jb> is $ZENHOME set?
[15-Aug-2008 16:41:54] <mib_arkdum> hold please
[15-Aug-2008 16:42:49] <mib_arkdum> this is my response from echo $ZENHOME: /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss
[15-Aug-2008 16:42:55] <jb> ok, so you are good
[15-Aug-2008 16:43:23] <mib_arkdum> it is a little bug in the .bashrc file....hmmm
[15-Aug-2008 16:43:45] <mib_arkdum> let me try the restore command now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:06] <mib_arkdum> Wonderfull job guys !!
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:13] <mib_arkdum> Everything works now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:24] <kso512> mib_arkdum: no problem. Be sure to pay your IRC bill
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:25] <mib_arkdum> restore also works
[15-Aug-2008 16:45:59] <mib_arkdum> I don't know if I have any money left my Porn bills are killing me
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:27] <mib_arkdum> I wonder if someone file the bug already
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:39] <jb> what version are you running?
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:43] <jb> that is not a bug that I am aware of..
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:46] <mib_arkdum> 2.2.3
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:51] <mib_arkdum> stack version
[15-Aug-2008 16:46:59] <jb> im running the same, and mine doesn't have the extra "."
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:11] <mib_arkdum> how did it get there..
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:18] <mib_arkdum> I never edited that file..
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:24] <jb> not sure..
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:33] <mib_arkdum> are you running the satck version?
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:43] <jb> yes.
[15-Aug-2008 16:47:51] <mib_arkdum> same here
[15-Aug-2008 16:48:23] <mib_arkdum> I have an entry in the forums and I am going to post the answer now..
[15-Aug-2008 16:48:26] <mib_arkdum> thank you
[15-Aug-2008 17:03:11] <mib_arkdum> When I restore from zenoss-stack 2.2 to 2.2.3, is there any need to run zenmigrate?
[15-Aug-2008 17:16:13] <pb1dft> back
[15-Aug-2008 17:18:55] <pb1dft> there i see there was quite some activity while i was gone
[15-Aug-2008 17:19:05] <cciew1> zzzzz
[15-Aug-2008 17:20:11] <pb1dft> lol
[15-Aug-2008 17:25:49] <shaskell> Is anyone running 2.2.3 and experiencing a really slow UI?
[15-Aug-2008 17:26:12] <shaskell> I've got some servers on a point-to-point VPN and 2.2.0 runs super snappy, 2.2.3 crawls
[15-Aug-2008 17:26:29] <shaskell> took over 90 seconds to load the Users tab in settings, on 2.2.3
[15-Aug-2008 17:26:40] <shaskell> same dataset on 2.2.0 took under 1 second
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[15-Aug-2008 17:56:40] <mib_arkdum> When I restore from zenoss-stack 2.2 to 2.2.3, is there any need to run zenmigrate?
[15-Aug-2008 18:02:49] <kjdx> Unless I installed zenoss and I wanted to know if someone can give me a hand because I speak only in Italy is difficult to understand everything from driving only
[15-Aug-2008 18:03:32] <kjdx> I installed ZenPack to monitor a server and domains
[15-Aug-2008 18:04:07] <kjdx> but I do not understand how to get the monitor to view the status of servers and domains
[15-Aug-2008 18:04:25] <kjdx> someone is willing to help me?
[15-Aug-2008 18:06:47] <kso512> kjdx: Reading the administration manual should provide the best help you can get. You may have to read it a couple of times, and research what some of the words and ideas mean, but it will help a lot! It did me
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[15-Aug-2008 19:10:14] <IoNu|z> anyone online?
[15-Aug-2008 19:11:31] <IoNu|z> i added a cisco 6506 and .... it was like 4 hours ago
[15-Aug-2008 19:11:38] <IoNu|z> and it still didn`t add anything
[15-Aug-2008 19:11:57] <IoNu|z> anyoen have an ideea of why this is happening?
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:16] <ahorkan> hi there
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:33] <ahorkan> I need some help restoring a backup of zenoss from 2.1 to the latest release
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:39] <ahorkan> im running ubuntu server
[15-Aug-2008 19:14:51] <ahorkan> tarball source release of each
[15-Aug-2008 19:15:18] <ahorkan> I can install my system from scratch but not make the upgrade, and now I have problems once I restore my backup with the zenrestore command
[15-Aug-2008 19:15:29] <ahorkan> the command completes, but then zoectl wont start
[15-Aug-2008 19:15:36] <ahorkan> anyone have any ideas?
[15-Aug-2008 19:17:55] <IoNu|z> what do the logs say?
[15-Aug-2008 19:21:05] <ahorkan> ZConfig.SchemaResourceError: could not load package ZODB: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/persistent/cPersistence.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[15-Aug-2008 19:21:20] <ahorkan> this only happens once I restore my backup
[15-Aug-2008 19:21:47] <ahorkan> is there a way to manually just put my monitored hosts back without restoring and breaking the rest of the system>
[15-Aug-2008 19:22:21] <ahorkan> can I take just part of the backup tarball and and manually copy that to a working fresh installation?
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> ZConfig.SchemaResourceError: could not load package ZODB: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/persistent/cPersistence.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS2_AsEncodedString
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> Package name: 'ZODB'
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> File name: 'component.xml'
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> Package path: None
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:16] <ahorkan> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[15-Aug-2008 19:23:33] <ahorkan> I get that when I do a zenoss start after the backup restore
[15-Aug-2008 19:34:50] <IoNu|z> what version are you trying to restore to?
[15-Aug-2008 21:57:48] <JamesCard> I just installed Zonoss 2.2.3 on Ubuntu 8.04; have the software started, and I'm looking at the login screen at http://localhost:8080/. What are the default username and password?
[15-Aug-2008 21:57:48] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[15-Aug-2008 22:09:52] <JamesCard> I've installed Zenoss 2.2.3 on Ubuntu 8.04; have the software started, and I'm looking at the login screen at http://localhost:8080/. What are the default username and password? I don't see that information in the Admin Guide, on the Wiki, in any of the install guides, nor in any of the ReadMe files in /usr/local/zenoss.
[15-Aug-2008 22:09:52] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[15-Aug-2008 22:10:36] <kso512> JamesCard: try "admin" for the username and "zenoss" as the password
[15-Aug-2008 22:10:55] <JamesCard> kso512: Thanks!
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[16-Aug-2008 02:15:11] <meteoroid> hey i didn't know you guys use PushToTest TestMaker
[16-Aug-2008 02:15:24] <meteoroid> I am trying to get zenoss running to monitor pushtotest.com for frank cohen, one of my favorite customers
[16-Aug-2008 02:15:35] <meteoroid> trying to figure out how to use Test4Web stuff myself to make FT for Plone
[16-Aug-2008 02:18:46] <meteoroid> i was like using spotlight to search for Test4Web or whatever it's called and these files came up in ZenUITests product
[16-Aug-2008 02:19:22] <meteoroid> and yes, if pushtotest.com is down, it's probably my fault. :/
[16-Aug-2008 02:20:56] <meteoroid> (which is why i'm trying to get better monitoring in place)
[16-Aug-2008 04:19:11] <__adytum-bot__> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - New ULS Systems Blog - 31 Jul, 10:06PM
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[16-Aug-2008 07:33:43] <kjdx__> You can add additional collectors to Zenoss to allow for better performance and scaling when the device count gets too large for one collector. This number is somewhere between 1000 and 1200 devices. When a Zenoss collector is collecting data from more than that number of devices, it becomes harder for the collector to complete the collection cycle in the given cycle interval time. The default collector is localhost, but
[16-Aug-2008 07:33:45] <kjdx__> you can add another instance of Zenoss on another server to act as a collector. In prior versions of Zenoss, these collectors were known as Performance Monitors and Status Monitors.
[16-Aug-2008 07:33:50] <kjdx__> ops
[16-Aug-2008 07:33:52] <kjdx__> sorry
[16-Aug-2008 07:34:06] <kjdx__> hello if I wanted to know why I put the key google map of a domain my tells me that the key is already used and therefore I can not use it
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[17-Aug-2008 15:43:41] <jatindergiri> Hello, I am monitoring cisco 2600 with zenoss, and it's graphing some interface errors, but when i log into cisco i don't see any port errors any ideas?
[17-Aug-2008 20:19:06] <rbw> hello!
[17-Aug-2008 20:29:25] <meteoroid> re, rbw!
[17-Aug-2008 21:21:18] <rbw> to what extent can SNMP be used to monitor windows/linux machines? I know it can be used to gather cpu,disk,swap and memory usage etc...but is it possible to monitor things such as the number of apache processes running on a linux system?
[17-Aug-2008 21:44:45] <zanaga> rbw: i'm not sure why you want to monitor the number of apache processes, but there is a apache zenpack that allows you to monitor response time, connection pool and cpu use of apache through the builtin apache status page
[17-Aug-2008 21:50:10] <rbw_> zanaga, it was just an example refering to more advanced types of snmp checks...bad example I guess!
[17-Aug-2008 21:52:42] <zanaga> rbw_: apparently zenoss does count process instances
[17-Aug-2008 21:53:00] <zanaga> rbw_: so it should be possible to create events based on process counts
[17-Aug-2008 21:54:11] <rbw_> zanaga, I'll ask the question this way instead...what are the limits to SNMP for monitoring? I've previously used Nagios and NRPE(nagios remote plugin executor) and I'm pretty much new to SNMP.
[17-Aug-2008 21:54:21] <meteoroid> zanaga: important to know how often your boundaries of min / max processes are being bumped against
[17-Aug-2008 21:56:25] <zanaga> rbw_: snmp provides basic information about the system (on linux atleast) by default. So you get stuff like network speed/util, basic HW info, CPU/RAM util and so on..
[17-Aug-2008 21:57:10] <zanaga> rbw_: everything application specific needs to be solved by other means (nagios plugins work with zenoss)
[17-Aug-2008 21:57:50] <rbw_> zanaga, alright...that answers my question. thanks. what do you recommend, nagios or ssh?
[17-Aug-2008 21:57:53] <zanaga> meteoroid: that can be done as it is.. i don't have need for that anywhere so it's kind of hard for me to think of situations where it is needed
[17-Aug-2008 21:58:49] <zanaga> rbw_: most nagios plugins use SSH anyway and the basic SSH support in zenoss only covers some basic features.
[17-Aug-2008 21:59:55] <zanaga> rbw_: I would personally first check if there is a ZenPack for the feature i need, then consider writing one and (because i'm a lazy coder) then fall back to nagios plugins
[17-Aug-2008 22:00:32] <rbw_> (that wasn't me)
[17-Aug-2008 22:00:46] <rbw_> well, it was me, but not any more!
[17-Aug-2008 22:01:54] <rbw_> zanaga, ok. zenpacks is written in python only right?
[17-Aug-2008 22:02:05] <rbw_> zanaga, my python skills are somewhat limited.
[17-Aug-2008 22:02:30] <zanaga> python is easy to pick up =)
[17-Aug-2008 22:02:58] <zanaga> but yes, they are mostly in python. you can use other languages too since you can invoke external applications from python
[17-Aug-2008 22:03:58] <rbw_> zanaga, ok
[17-Aug-2008 22:05:23] <rbw_> zanaga, I've actually read and completed this python book like half a year ago, so I know a few I guess
...but I doubt my boss would appreciate me spending time writing zenpacks [17-Aug-2008 22:06:40] <rbw_> zanaga, another question...do you have any experience with WMI? is it hard to set up?
[17-Aug-2008 22:09:53] <rbw_> zanaga, I've done some reading and it seems to offer quite a good monitoring solution for windows machines...whats your opinion? is WMI the way to go for windows servers? perhaps in combination with SNMP?
[17-Aug-2008 22:10:32] <zanaga> WMI is pretty much the only way. SNMP on windows doesn't really offer that much information about the server
[17-Aug-2008 22:11:03] <zanaga> it's a bit of a pain, but once you get the hang of it the basics are easy. I've yet to set up anything more complicated than the default monitoring stuff for windows
[17-Aug-2008 22:13:40] <rbw_> zanaga, ok
[17-Aug-2008 22:14:27] <rbw_> zanaga, thanks a lot for your information. much appreciated!
[17-Aug-2008 22:14:34] <zanaga> no problem
[17-Aug-2008 22:17:20] <rbw_> I'm off to bed...good night everyone!
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[18-Aug-2008 06:48:33] <pb1dft> Grrrrrrrrr.....
[18-Aug-2008 06:49:06] <pb1dft> zendisc exists with no error and no imported or new found item
[18-Aug-2008 06:49:09] <pb1dft> s
[18-Aug-2008 08:57:05] <nemo_> today is upgrade to 2.2.3 day !
[18-Aug-2008 09:14:37] <pb1dft> ?
[18-Aug-2008 09:14:41] <pb1dft> new version?.
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:01] <nemo_> no, i just developed the courage to tackle it
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:11] <nemo_> i hope mine doesnt break like everyone elses
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:22] <nemo_> just doing mega backups first, cus i am no totally dumb ;p
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:53] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 09:24:57] <pb1dft> be prepared lol
[18-Aug-2008 09:25:23] <pb1dft> i have nothing but shit
[18-Aug-2008 10:08:59] <nemo_> taking a while ...
[18-Aug-2008 10:09:09] <nemo_> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing AddMonitorColumn (2.2.0)
[18-Aug-2008 10:09:18] <nemo_> thats the last thing it said, about 20 minutes ago
[18-Aug-2008 10:27:33] <pann> getting warning like : threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded:
[18-Aug-2008 10:27:39] <pann> polling cisco router, any ideas
[18-Aug-2008 10:30:45] <nemo_> did you search the forums ?
[18-Aug-2008 10:36:34] <lahirup> how can i get an event when an interface of a router is down
[18-Aug-2008 10:36:46] <pann> yeh there was info about snmpd not see the interface correctly but nothing on cisco products
[18-Aug-2008 10:37:11] <pann> i fixed the snmpd issues not see a tun and tap interface on a unix machine fine
[18-Aug-2008 10:42:46] <lahirup> we have few cisco routers
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:07] <lahirup> but when an interface is operationally down it is not indicated in events log
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:29] <nemo_> no you are right
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:40] <lahirup> i can see the interface is down when i go in to the device but thats not enough
[18-Aug-2008 10:43:53] <nemo_> you prob need to check that oid's status
[18-Aug-2008 10:44:51] <lahirup> is there any template to download to solve this prob?
[18-Aug-2008 10:46:21] <nemo_> i dont know of any
[18-Aug-2008 11:30:59] <nemo_> still waiting for the upgrade to finish ( started at 11.45 cet )
[18-Aug-2008 11:43:37] <nemo_> ok its finished but seems to have crapped out at the end
[18-Aug-2008 11:48:41] <nemo_> so , i cant see the events in the console and the pull down menus seems broken , anyone else see the same ?
[18-Aug-2008 11:55:45] <nemo_> all solved by deleting FF cache
[18-Aug-2008 11:55:51] <nemo_> must be the cached JS
[18-Aug-2008 12:33:13] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[18-Aug-2008 13:39:26] <nemo_> who else has zenhub issues after upgrade to 2.2.3 ?
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:15] <pb1dft> almost everyone
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:18] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:25] <pb1dft> nemo_: doesn stay started?
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:31] <nemo_> exact
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:47] <nemo_> AttributeError: cycleInterval at the end of the traceback
[18-Aug-2008 13:41:55] <pb1dft> /usr/local/zenoss/zenconsole
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:07] <nemo_> i did google on it , reindexed the db and deleted zec / pickle files
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:14] <pb1dft> then do zenhub -f -d start
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:34] <nemo_> i dont have any /usr/local/zenoss
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:43] <pb1dft> reindexed the db << what's teh command for that
[18-Aug-2008 13:42:56] <pb1dft> your install is in /opt/zenoss?
[18-Aug-2008 13:43:34] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m6d17ffb6
[18-Aug-2008 13:43:42] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 13:43:55] <nemo_> yes but i dont have a zenconsole command anywhere under /opt/zenoss
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:03] <pb1dft> nemo_: su to zenoss
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:23] <nemo_> everything i do is with ( su - zenoss )
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:27] <nemo_> unless otherwise stated
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:31] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 13:45:43] <pb1dft> then do zenhub -f -d start
[18-Aug-2008 13:46:14] <nemo_> what does that do then ( undocumented ? )
[18-Aug-2008 13:46:28] <nemo_> sry i am one of those ppl who doesnt run it unless i know
[18-Aug-2008 13:47:56] <pb1dft> sec
[18-Aug-2008 13:48:37] <pb1dft> it will start the deamon and forks it into deamon mode
[18-Aug-2008 13:48:46] <pb1dft> that's how i start zopectl
[18-Aug-2008 13:48:54] <pb1dft> to have it kept running
[18-Aug-2008 13:49:50] <nemo_> i just the usage screen
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:28] <davetoo> wait a sec...
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:31] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m2c4c9ccb
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:38] * davetoo sighs
[18-Aug-2008 13:50:54] <davetoo> so there's a new problem with zenhub between 2.2.2 and 2.2.3?
[18-Aug-2008 13:51:18] <nemo_> some people reported it was fixed after they restarted mysql as root
[18-Aug-2008 13:51:23] <nemo_> didnt work for me tho
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:03] <davetoo> zopectl and zeoctl have different command-line syntax
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:21] <nemo_> start - start the program in daemon mode -- running in the background,
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:21] <nemo_> detached from the shell
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:24] <pb1dft> zenhub start
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:26] <davetoo> zenhub is zenoss-specific, not zope syntax
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:28] <nemo_> should be enough to just strat
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:31] <nemo_> start*
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:37] <pb1dft> inded
[18-Aug-2008 13:52:38] <nemo_> so back to square 1
[18-Aug-2008 13:53:02] * davetoo is going to bring up a vmware VM with 2.2.3 today
[18-Aug-2008 13:53:26] <nemo_> would be handy to know if its upgrade related or not , kool.
[18-Aug-2008 13:53:48] <davetoo> is there a trac ticket for this problem?
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:22] <pb1dft> i have same kinda shit with a clean stack install
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:27] <nemo_> i did email zenoss support but didnt get a ticket # back ( i am running enterprise )
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:37] <davetoo> what's the symptom?
[18-Aug-2008 13:54:58] <davetoo> My problem has been that (in 2.2.0) zenhub is so busy that I can't add any new devices
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:08] <davetoo> I have to stop zenperfsnmp and/or zencommand before adding devices
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:30] <nemo_> hmmm
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:34] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m68829e34
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:36] <nemo_> thats my issue
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:41] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 13:55:46] <nemo_> gonna try turning off other stuff and see tho !
[18-Aug-2008 13:56:17] <davetoo> My problem manifests as timeouts, not exceptions in zenhub
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:24] <nemo_> yeh sounds like a different issue
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:27] <pb1dft> zendisc just exists with no error and no adding/discovering anything
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:52] <nemo_> well zenhub is more vital than discovery at the moment
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:53] <nemo_> ;p
[18-Aug-2008 13:57:57] <pb1dft>
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:08] <nemo_> zenoss does seem to work
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:11] <pb1dft> does zenhub start doesn't keep it active?.
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:18] <nemo_> it doesnt start
[18-Aug-2008 13:58:29] <nemo_> zenhub doesnt
[18-Aug-2008 13:59:50] <nemo_> i think the zenmigrate didnt finish
[18-Aug-2008 14:00:20] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m4906c926
[18-Aug-2008 14:00:27] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Aug-2008 14:10:54] <pb1dft> i'm about to dislike the product more and more
[18-Aug-2008 14:11:40] <nemo_> well i knew upgrade would be painful
[18-Aug-2008 14:12:00] <pb1dft> i'm trying to do a clean install
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:24] <cciew1> just in case you guys find it the zenoss book on amazon is not worth it
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:36] <nemo_> i knew that already
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:37] <cciew1> has less info than the web docs
[18-Aug-2008 14:24:46] <nemo_> of course the best info is in the source ;p
[18-Aug-2008 14:25:15] <cciew1> the books actually a scam i think
[18-Aug-2008 14:25:26] <cciew1> be sure to read in a book store
[18-Aug-2008 14:27:15] <nemo_> shows you how easy it is to write one tho
[18-Aug-2008 14:30:08] <pb1dft> Loading default data into database (this may take a few minutes).
[18-Aug-2008 14:30:18] <pb1dft> ^^ What kinda minutes M$ minutes?.
[18-Aug-2008 14:32:33] <nemo_> took 2 hrs for my upgrade !
[18-Aug-2008 14:32:36] <nemo_> to fail ...
[18-Aug-2008 14:33:54] <pb1dft> you did an upgrade
i'm doing clean install [18-Aug-2008 14:34:27] <nemo_> if i run zenmigrate again i can see it failing
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:28] <nemo_> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing TwoTwoIndexing (2.2.0)
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:28] <nemo_> Recovering
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:40] <nemo_> with keyerrors
[18-Aug-2008 14:34:54] <nemo_> but deleting the zec files and restarting doesnt solve this issue
[18-Aug-2008 14:43:26] <jb> sounds like you might have a fubared database :/\
[18-Aug-2008 14:47:18] <nemo_> oh well i hope zenoss support answers soon
[18-Aug-2008 14:47:50] <nemo_> i backed everything up of course, but downgrading is for jessies
[18-Aug-2008 14:51:00] <jsm> is anyone aware of someone working on a postgresql ZenPack? I'm starting one today, and don't really want to duplicate any effort.
[18-Aug-2008 14:51:36] <nemo_> not heard of one
[18-Aug-2008 14:51:49] <nemo_> heard plenty of threats to do one, but not actually seen it done
[18-Aug-2008 14:52:15] <jsm> threats, hahah..
.. well we have an actual business case at work to get one done, so i'll make an attempt and release it GPL[18-Aug-2008 14:52:46] <nemo_> good on ya
[18-Aug-2008 14:52:51] <jsm> using the mysql zenpack as a template of sorts
[18-Aug-2008 15:03:44] <pb1dft> Grrr still waiting for the minutes to pass
[18-Aug-2008 15:06:30] <pb1dft> restarting stack installer
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[18-Aug-2008 18:31:58] <jb> anybody here using a hardware enterprise appliance?
[18-Aug-2008 19:19:34] <IoNu|z> anyone know how to fix this WARNING:zen.ZenModeler:client host timeout
[18-Aug-2008 19:47:55] <rbw> yelo!
[18-Aug-2008 19:49:18] <jsm> no wonder why no one has written a zenoss plugin for postgres stats.. the stats interface is god awful.
[18-Aug-2008 19:54:20] <IoNu|z>
[18-Aug-2008 19:59:58] <jsm> i will conquer it
[18-Aug-2008 20:08:10] <IoNu|z> that`s the spirit!
[18-Aug-2008 21:45:12] * meteoroid cheers jsm !
[18-Aug-2008 22:21:23] <jsm> meteoroid, how do i know you?
[18-Aug-2008 22:21:36] <daMaestro> yesss!
[18-Aug-2008 22:21:50] <daMaestro> i owe someone a beer: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3416#comment:5
[18-Aug-2008 22:22:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3416 (manual creation of IPService impossible) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[18-Aug-2008 22:22:16] <meteoroid> jsm: remember a couple of hours ago when you said something about taking on the challenge of postgres stats? i was *totally* there..
[18-Aug-2008 22:22:29] <jsm> oh! you are doing it?
[18-Aug-2008 22:23:43] <kgoedtel> i wish i could solve this puzzle:
[18-Aug-2008 22:23:44] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7020
[18-Aug-2008 22:24:01] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Reports - collections not matching actual organizer (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Aug-2008 22:26:12] <jsm> well anyhow, i just started cracking it.. am pulling the first bits of stats now.. had to wrap my head around it... the cacti plugin for postgres has helped tons
[18-Aug-2008 22:26:18] <jsm> time to go home now
[18-Aug-2008 22:27:52] <kgoedtel> i really wonder where the collections are being pulled from when the report has more systems than zope/zeo... i deleted my zeo cache to humor myself.
[18-Aug-2008 23:35:32] <jatindergiri> hello, is there a way to monitor virtual host on apache?
[18-Aug-2008 23:35:49] <jatindergiri> for example, can i graph how many hits one virtual host is getting
[18-Aug-2008 23:58:29] <jatindergiri> is there a way to graph one oid ?
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[19-Aug-2008 00:05:13] <jatindergiri> anybody ?
[19-Aug-2008 00:05:18] <jatindergiri> i: is there a way to graph one oid ?
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[19-Aug-2008 08:58:41] <nemo_> ok downgraded back to 2.1.3
[19-Aug-2008 08:58:43] <nemo_> what a POS
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:38] <pann> whats going on?
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:42] <pann> 2.2.3 sucks?
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:55] <nemo_> basically caused me allot of work and a downgrade after
[19-Aug-2008 09:02:58] <nemo_> waste of my time
[19-Aug-2008 09:03:23] <nemo_> if zenoss had responded to my ticket i might have been happier
[19-Aug-2008 09:04:30] <pann> what about use the vmware image
[19-Aug-2008 09:05:20] <nemo_> why ?
[19-Aug-2008 09:05:38] <nemo_> i use enterprise version on a big machine
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[19-Aug-2008 11:26:59] <nemonl23> anyone know a command line method of extracting Group properties from a zenoss device
[19-Aug-2008 11:27:26] <nemonl23> e.g. which groups it belongs to
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:13] <pb1dft> i know theres a dump command but don't know if it ourput groups too
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:32] <nemonl23> yeh i read the dumps
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:42] <nemonl23> there is a variable called groups
[19-Aug-2008 11:35:55] <nemonl23> but it returns: <ToManyRelationship at groups>
[19-Aug-2008 11:36:07] <nemonl23> i thought that might be an array, but now i am getting lost in python
[19-Aug-2008 11:36:50] <pb1dft> lol
[19-Aug-2008 11:42:42] <lacin_> hi, Is monitor menu removed in ZenOSS 2.2.3 ?
[19-Aug-2008 11:43:11] <lacin_> I installed 2.2.3 but there is no Monitor menu, even monitor option in devices Edit Tab.
[19-Aug-2008 11:50:18] <pb1dft> zProperties ?
[19-Aug-2008 11:52:37] <pb1dft> Any one has any clue how to get rid off ciscos unrouted VLAN threshold errors?
[19-Aug-2008 11:54:56] <nemonl23> nope, didnt tackle that yet
[19-Aug-2008 11:55:07] <nemonl23> you could just transform them away
[19-Aug-2008 11:55:08] <nemonl23> http://pastebin.com/m5e130619
[19-Aug-2008 11:55:15] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:22] <pb1dft> i found a way but labour intensive
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:53] <pb1dft> and it just turns off the threshold monitoring for that interface
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:53] <nemonl23> this is what my script looks like and the output:
[19-Aug-2008 11:56:54] <nemonl23> http://pastebin.com/m3095a4d3
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:01] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:13] <nemonl23> can anyone tell me how to get the REAL device group
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:32] <pb1dft> i'm no python guru
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:36] <nemonl23> me either
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:43] <nemonl23> bashing my head on the table here
[19-Aug-2008 11:57:52] <pb1dft> poor table
[19-Aug-2008 11:58:17] <nemonl23> dont worry its just a virtual table, theres no actual violence, yet
[19-Aug-2008 11:58:27] <pb1dft> yet....
[19-Aug-2008 11:58:48] <pb1dft> strange they didn't put stuff in mysql tables
[19-Aug-2008 12:00:11] <nemonl23> i wish they did
[19-Aug-2008 12:00:36] <nemonl23> i cant seem to get my head round python , SQL would be a dream right now
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:05] <pb1dft> indeed and i guess they wouldn't have this many shit either
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:21] <pb1dft> if they did more people would be able to write solutions
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:33] <nemonl23> its a python elitist thing i am sure
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:49] <nemonl23> where are these people when you want some help tho
[19-Aug-2008 12:01:57] <nemonl23> i guess they sleep in the day ...
[19-Aug-2008 12:02:11] <pb1dft> lol and night then
[19-Aug-2008 12:02:36] <pb1dft> i'm here almost 24x7 atleast in the channel and i don't see much activity
[19-Aug-2008 12:06:57] <IoNu|z> i can help you out with those unrouted vlans
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:36] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: shoot...
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:39] <IoNu|z> only if you are still seeking for help
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:40] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:47] <IoNu|z> so what`s the problem?
[19-Aug-2008 12:07:58] <IoNu|z> you`re getting alarms that the threshould has been reached?
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:26] <pb1dft> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:38] <IoNu|z> when you gop the actual vlan
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:40] <pb1dft> it doesn't detect the correct speed on the unrouted vlans
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:51] <IoNu|z> the speed says Unknown?
[19-Aug-2008 12:08:57] <pb1dft> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:12] <pb1dft> it actually is 756 Gb/s
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:14] <pb1dft>
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:23] <IoNu|z> then you don`t have the speed set up for the vlan
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:35] <pb1dft> ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:52] <IoNu|z> are you going to be online in about an hour?
[19-Aug-2008 12:09:58] <IoNu|z> i`m getting ready fro work...
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:06] <pb1dft> i'm here
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:12] <IoNu|z> ok cool
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:18] <IoNu|z> ttyl
[19-Aug-2008 12:10:52] <pb1dft> okidoki
[19-Aug-2008 12:13:31] <nemonl23> IoNu|z, can you explain ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:13:40] <nemonl23> you dont have a speed setup ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:23] <IoNu|z> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:29] <IoNu|z> you don`t have a limit for the vlan
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:33] <IoNu|z> the mib reads it 0
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:44] <IoNu|z> so of course the threshould has been reached
[19-Aug-2008 12:14:58] <pb1dft> max is the max of the backplane in the switch
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:08] <nemonl23> is that a zproerty
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:11] <nemonl23> ?\
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:14] <IoNu|z> neah
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:17] <nemonl23> zProperty
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:18] <IoNu|z> it`s on the switch
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:40] <nemonl23> ok , so i need to ask the network dudes to add something to their IOS templates ?
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:52] <IoNu|z> on the switch
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:58] <IoNu|z> they need to put a limit on the interface
[19-Aug-2008 12:15:58] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:05] <nemonl23> ah ok.
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:06] <IoNu|z> so that zenoss would know where the limit is
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:10] <pb1dft> the ip interface off the vlan is fine
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:17] <IoNu|z> yes
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:21] <pb1dft> it's the nonrouted one
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:26] <IoNu|z> if you look at it you will se that it has a limit
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:32] <nemonl23> i think i will just transform them to the bin then
[19-Aug-2008 12:16:55] <nemonl23> no one will want to limit them , i just feel it
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:10] <IoNu|z> yep
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:12] <IoNu|z> same here
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:23] <IoNu|z> it`s unrouted so noane cares
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:26] <nemonl23> work that doesnt deliver profit and stuff
[19-Aug-2008 12:17:45] <IoNu|z>
))))))0[19-Aug-2008 12:17:45] <IoNu|z> yep
[19-Aug-2008 12:18:23] <pb1dft> ever thought how you anter speed settings on the vlan itself?.
[19-Aug-2008 12:22:33] <IoNu|z> do an snmp walk for that mib and see by yourself
[19-Aug-2008 12:22:53] <pb1dft> i know what i see.
[19-Aug-2008 12:23:00] <pb1dft> i know the result.
[19-Aug-2008 12:23:21] <pb1dft> you can't set speed on a vitual l2 interface
[19-Aug-2008 13:23:20] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[19-Aug-2008 13:28:49] <pb1dft> ..
[19-Aug-2008 13:45:24] * nemonl23 yawns
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:23] <pb1dft>
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:33] <pb1dft> still wating on IoNu|z
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:35] <pb1dft>
[19-Aug-2008 13:59:45] <pb1dft> going to have a quick smoke bbl
[19-Aug-2008 14:00:51] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 14:00:52] <IoNu|z> i`m back
[19-Aug-2008 14:00:53] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 14:22:05] <jsm> well i have the core of the postgresql monitoring plugin complete
[19-Aug-2008 14:23:52] <IoNu|z> congrats
[19-Aug-2008 14:24:10] <jsm> now have to figure out how to get it into the webui
[19-Aug-2008 14:25:52] <jsm> the other issue i'm trying to figure out is how to have it monitor more than one database
[19-Aug-2008 14:26:10] <jsm> postgresql stats are database specific
[19-Aug-2008 14:26:35] <jsm> i could have it look at multiple databases, the user would just give a comma seperated list
[19-Aug-2008 14:26:55] <jsm> and then i'd have to append databasename_somedatabase stat to the values
[19-Aug-2008 14:27:14] <jsm> rather --- databasename_somedatabasestat
[19-Aug-2008 14:27:27] <jsm> then you could graph multiple dbs
[19-Aug-2008 14:31:44] <IoNu|z> i`d love to help... but i`m not that good with sql
[19-Aug-2008 14:31:58] <pb1dft> back
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:13] <IoNu|z> pb1dft did you resolve your issue?
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:29] <pb1dft> not yet
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:33] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:39] <IoNu|z> so were we left off?
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:45] <pb1dft> you can't set speeds on a layer 2 vlan
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:53] <IoNu|z> ...
[19-Aug-2008 14:34:58] <IoNu|z> that`s the problem
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:08] <IoNu|z> what you could do
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:14] <IoNu|z> is make a template that would not alert
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:31] <IoNu|z> remove the threshould for the unrouted vlans
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:39] <pb1dft> problem is it's labour intensive
[19-Aug-2008 14:35:58] <pb1dft> i have over 32 vlans per core switch
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:05] <pb1dft> and have over 10 core switches
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:14] <IoNu|z> ok.. let`s see
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:37] <IoNu|z> is your unrouted vlans a different kind of type?
[19-Aug-2008 14:36:37] <pb1dft> i did one manually but iit took me three hours to trun the threshold off
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:06] <pb1dft> sec checking
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:26] <pb1dft> type is propVirtual
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:32] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:38] <IoNu|z> and the vlans that are workin?
[19-Aug-2008 14:37:51] <pb1dft> yeah the layer 3 interface are fine
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:03] <IoNu|z> do you have any other interfaces named propVirtual?
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:11] <pb1dft> lemmi check the type on those
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:44] <pb1dft> yes my port channels have propvirtual as type to
[19-Aug-2008 14:38:49] <pb1dft> those are fine too
[19-Aug-2008 14:39:04] <pb1dft> speeds on those get detected fine
[19-Aug-2008 14:39:07] <IoNu|z> then... you`re kinda out of options
[19-Aug-2008 14:39:34] <IoNu|z> or if you can get away without getting alarms for those eather?
[19-Aug-2008 14:40:02] <pb1dft> no those are rather important
[19-Aug-2008 14:40:14] <pb1dft> i have one match that makes em unique
[19-Aug-2008 14:40:59] <pb1dft> the type is propVirtual and the names always start with "unrouted VLAN"
[19-Aug-2008 14:41:15] <IoNu|z> do you need to monitor those vlans?
[19-Aug-2008 14:41:20] <IoNu|z> you could just delete them out
[19-Aug-2008 14:42:08] <pb1dft> i need the graphs from em but not the thresholds
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:12] <IoNu|z> try to set up on the Zproprities of teh device
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:18] <IoNu|z> zInterfaceMapIgnoreTypes
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:22] * nemonl23 wakes up
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:32] <nemonl23> so it can be configed in zenoss , not the device ?
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:34] <IoNu|z> there are a few options to ignore some of the alarms
[19-Aug-2008 14:44:55] <nemonl23> ah .. thats just zSNMPignore isnt it ?
[19-Aug-2008 14:47:54] <IoNu|z> or that
[19-Aug-2008 14:48:06] <IoNu|z> you could set snmp to ignore the checks on the interfaces
[19-Aug-2008 14:48:08] <pb1dft> zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[19-Aug-2008 14:49:09] <pb1dft> to match "unrouted VLAN 671" i type ^unrouted
[19-Aug-2008 14:49:22] <pb1dft> correct?.
[19-Aug-2008 14:50:45] <IoNu|z> somethign like that
[19-Aug-2008 14:51:10] <IoNu|z> i don`t have an example that works because i am not using that for any devices right now
[19-Aug-2008 14:51:51] <IoNu|z> i just deleted my vlan check since.... we only need the ethernet utiliziation
[19-Aug-2008 14:52:06] <jsm> i'm a little annoyed that it's too late for my plugin to get entered in the contest zenoss is sponsoring
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:09] <pb1dft> lol @ jsm
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:20] <Nate187> is it possible to use a datasource and datapoint as a threshold max value?
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:30] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: thenks thats it
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:34] <jsm> pb1dft, i was looking forward to winning that laptop
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:35] <nemonl23> better set it on the class than individual devices no ?
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:55] <jsm> now i have to release it under the kindness of my own heart
[19-Aug-2008 14:53:56] <jsm> lame
[19-Aug-2008 14:55:22] <nemonl23> zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[19-Aug-2008 14:55:22] <nemonl23> zInterfaceMapIgnoreTypes
[19-Aug-2008 14:56:39] <pb1dft> nemonl23: i set it on the specific devices
[19-Aug-2008 14:56:53] <nemonl23> i set it on the class for switches
[19-Aug-2008 14:57:05] <pb1dft> but i can aswell do it on the class cos the are seperated from all other switches
[19-Aug-2008 14:57:41] <IoNu|z> jsm you have my respect for that plugin
[19-Aug-2008 14:57:41] <IoNu|z>
[19-Aug-2008 14:59:14] <jsm> IoNu|z, just wait till it's done before you give me the respect
[19-Aug-2008 15:02:39] <IoNu|z> anyone who at least tries to make something work instead of just expecting someone else to do it deserves respect
[19-Aug-2008 15:03:47] <jsm> it's the linux spirit
... plus luckily zenoss is python, which is my strongest language[19-Aug-2008 15:04:31] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: do you know iff zenoss does autodiscovery when not triggered
[19-Aug-2008 15:04:50] <IoNu|z> for devices?
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:20] <pb1dft> Inyes
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:26] <pb1dft> IoNu|z: yes
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:27] <IoNu|z> only if you make it to
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:34] <pb1dft> how do i do that
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:45] <IoNu|z> you go by network
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:50] <IoNu|z> select the network
[19-Aug-2008 15:05:56] <pb1dft> i excluded all networks from autodiscovery except the ones i want to autodiscover
[19-Aug-2008 15:06:37] <IoNu|z> so you do not have any networks under the networks tab?
[19-Aug-2008 15:06:50] <pb1dft> you about 800 off them
[19-Aug-2008 15:06:56] <pb1dft> * yes
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:03] <IoNu|z> ok
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:12] <IoNu|z> select the networks that you wan`t to discover
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:47] <pb1dft> that's a manually triggered discovery
[19-Aug-2008 15:07:57] <IoNu|z> and select discover from the menu
[19-Aug-2008 15:08:14] <pb1dft> with auto i ment discover once every x hours/days
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:02] <IoNu|z> oh
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:03] <IoNu|z> lol
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:04] <IoNu|z>
)[19-Aug-2008 15:10:09] <IoNu|z> i don`t know about that
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:24] <pb1dft> hmm
[19-Aug-2008 15:10:48] <pb1dft> this is going to give me a shitload off work again
[19-Aug-2008 15:12:13] <pb1dft> i'll put the following command in a cronjob then
[19-Aug-2008 15:12:45] <pb1dft> zendisc run --net 10.16.128.0/24 10.17.x.x etc
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:15] <pb1dft> sorry make that
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:26] <pb1dft> zendisc run --net 10.16.128.0/24 --net 10.17.x.x/16 etc
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:42] <IoNu|z> yep
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:46] <IoNu|z> that should work out
[19-Aug-2008 15:13:53] <IoNu|z> make sure you run it as the znoss user
[19-Aug-2008 15:16:00] <pb1dft> tha's no problem
[19-Aug-2008 15:18:25] <pb1dft> grr any way to stripoff a part domain name?.
[19-Aug-2008 15:24:10] <jsm> anyone here develop a zenpack? i had a question about "ZenPack Provides"
[19-Aug-2008 15:26:06] <pb1dft> nope not me
[19-Aug-2008 15:26:16] <pb1dft> i need a good book on python and zenoss
[19-Aug-2008 15:28:47] <IoNu|z> jsm what`s your question about zenpack?
[19-Aug-2008 15:29:22] <jsm> are the "ZenPack Provides" dynamically created?
[19-Aug-2008 15:29:51] <nemonl23> there is an example zenpack isnt there, for study purposes
[19-Aug-2008 15:29:56] <nemonl23> so i read last night anyway
[19-Aug-2008 15:30:28] <nemonl23> 10. Is there an example ZenPack I can use as a guide?
[19-Aug-2008 15:30:28] <nemonl23> HelloWorldZenPack is an example ZenPack and may be used as a starting point for creating your own ZenPacks. The code and comments in its files provide a lot of detail as to the workings of the install process and other aspects of ZenPacks. HelloWorldZenPack and other Zenoss Core ZenPacks are available for download here.
[19-Aug-2008 15:35:44] <jsm> i used the mysql zenpack as a template
[19-Aug-2008 15:35:50] <jsm> it was more relevant
[19-Aug-2008 15:36:04] <jsm> but i will check that as well, thanks.
[19-Aug-2008 15:36:51] <Nate187> I can't find anything about using a datapoint as a threshold value. anyone have ideas about it?
[19-Aug-2008 15:44:33] * pb1dft is afk
[19-Aug-2008 15:46:02] <jsm> i have a feeling it's going to suck to try and debug my zenpack
[19-Aug-2008 15:51:25] <IoNu|z> Nate187 what are yous earching for ... again?
[19-Aug-2008 15:55:57] <jsm> if anyone wants to help me crush this bug.. when trying to add values to my postgres datasource it throws this error: http://pastebin.com/m35cd9a6b... keep in mind i'm creating my own ZenPack for postgres.
[19-Aug-2008 15:57:12] <Nate187> I'm trying to get a threshold that uses a datapoint for the max value
[19-Aug-2008 15:58:14] <Nate187> for example, i want to monitor call volume stas with datapoints low, high, and configured
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:05] <Nate187> so as the configured datapoint changes, the threshold changes with it
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:36] <IoNu|z> hmm..
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:47] <Nate187> instead of having to manually edit every threshold every time there's an augment to the number of configured trunks
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:53] <Nate187> make sense?
[19-Aug-2008 15:59:54] <IoNu|z> so you wan`t something different from what it`s currently set uop for the ethernet interfaces?
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:02] <IoNu|z> oh
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:09] <IoNu|z> so you wan`t an dynamic threshould?
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:13] <Nate187> exactly
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:24] <IoNu|z> oh
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:28] <IoNu|z> not sure about that
[19-Aug-2008 16:00:57] <IoNu|z> because...
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:06] <Nate187> i was looking to use a datapoint as the max value on the threshold, but i didn't find anything useful about doing that
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:08] <IoNu|z> i think the maximum it`s set up when the devices are modeled
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:22] <IoNu|z> and every 6 horus or something
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:43] <IoNu|z> so if the maximum on the specific interface changes than the threshold should change also
[19-Aug-2008 16:01:57] <Nate187> right
[19-Aug-2008 16:02:11] <Nate187> and 6 hours to update isn't a problem
[19-Aug-2008 16:02:49] <IoNu|z> so where is the problem?
[19-Aug-2008 16:02:53] <IoNu|z> what doesn`t happen?
[19-Aug-2008 16:03:25] <Nate187> in the threshold, what should i put for the max value?
[19-Aug-2008 16:03:41] <Nate187> i don't want to statically say 100
[19-Aug-2008 16:03:57] <Nate187> i want it so pull the rrd value for a datapoint
[19-Aug-2008 16:11:06] <IoNu|z> like a percent?
[19-Aug-2008 16:11:34] <IoNu|z> take a look at for example the template for Cisco devices
[19-Aug-2008 16:11:48] <IoNu|z> and i would put somethign about the same
[19-Aug-2008 16:12:11] <IoNu|z> it sends an alarm if the interface is over 75% utilization
[19-Aug-2008 16:15:21] <jiffe99> so if I want to monitor a windows service, I guess looking through the manual and the examples that are currently setup I'm not so sure how to do that
[19-Aug-2008 16:18:30] <IoNu|z> do you have the wmi package installed on the client?
[19-Aug-2008 16:19:04] <Nate187> i think the cisco one is something like here.speed/8 * .75, so it references the here.speed
[19-Aug-2008 16:19:05] <jiffe99> I have only setup snmp on the machine
[19-Aug-2008 16:19:14] <Nate187> looks like i'll write another collector plugin
[19-Aug-2008 16:22:07] <IoNu|z> what windows ?
[19-Aug-2008 16:23:03] <jiffe99> 2003
[19-Aug-2008 16:23:38] <jiffe99> I want to monitor the backup exec process we have running on that
[19-Aug-2008 16:25:57] <jiffe99> I am not sure what to use for the service keys
[19-Aug-2008 16:26:10] <IoNu|z> search fro wmi in add remove programs
[19-Aug-2008 16:26:13] <IoNu|z> and install it
[19-Aug-2008 16:27:19] <jiffe99> what does wmi do?
[19-Aug-2008 16:30:38] <jiffe99> wmi snmp provider?
[19-Aug-2008 16:31:43] <IoNu|z> yes
[19-Aug-2008 16:31:53] <IoNu|z> you need that to monitor processes and stuff
[19-Aug-2008 16:33:39] <jiffe99> alright that is added
[19-Aug-2008 16:36:18] <jiffe99> I am still not sure what to use for the service keys
[19-Aug-2008 16:38:30] <jiffe99> under the OS tab of the windows device, clicking on add winservice gives me no options either
[19-Aug-2008 16:38:41] <jiffe99> I've enabled a couple services that are running on that machine
[19-Aug-2008 16:45:40] <jiffe99> the end of 16.5 says 'If you do not see the service you would like to monitor, click on the WinServices table menu. Select the .Add WinService.... menu item.'
[19-Aug-2008 16:45:43] <jiffe99> and ends with tht
[19-Aug-2008 16:49:09] <IoNu|z> idk what to say... i don`t monitor any windows devices yet
[19-Aug-2008 17:01:12] <jsm> arghhhh... are there no devs here? I'm on the verge of getting my Postgresql ZenPack working and need a bit of help
[19-Aug-2008 17:20:15] <jiffe99> I see the Device_WMI_SNMP_v2 zenpack, but that appears to be performance monitoring, nothing service specific
[19-Aug-2008 17:24:55] <jiffe99> gravy, I tried doing it by adding a process and I get a zenoss error page
[19-Aug-2008 17:29:18] <daMaestro> hmm.. can you do multiple monitors for a given host?
[19-Aug-2008 17:29:32] <daMaestro> aka.. i need to query net-snmp and squid (two different ports)
[19-Aug-2008 17:30:21] <daMaestro> ahhhh i need to add a proxy in the net-snmp
[19-Aug-2008 17:30:22] <daMaestro> cool
[19-Aug-2008 18:16:25] <jeld> hello all
[19-Aug-2008 18:17:09] <jeld> I am trying to monitor some TCP services. I have defined the services, but they are not recognized by the devices. What is the proper way to do this?
[19-Aug-2008 18:20:08] <rbw_> hello
[19-Aug-2008 18:20:50] <kso512> hi
[19-Aug-2008 18:22:14] <npmccallum_> jeld: where did you define the services?
[19-Aug-2008 18:23:01] <jeld> under services
[19-Aug-2008 18:23:35] <jeld> I am applying the fix from ticket 3416 to see if it will allow me to add IP services manually
[19-Aug-2008 18:25:29] <jeld> well, this seemed to work, now I can manually add IP services to devices. I do not understand, though why it would detect some IP services automatically, but not others
[19-Aug-2008 18:26:49] <jeld> also, what are Service Keys?
[19-Aug-2008 18:27:13] <jeld> I am considering deleting all the predefined services and adding only the ones I want to monitor
[19-Aug-2008 18:27:39] <jeld> is that a wise thing to do?
[19-Aug-2008 18:28:06] <npmccallum_> just backup before you do
[19-Aug-2008 18:29:07] <jeld> this is not yet a production installation, so I can just reinstall if things go fubar
[19-Aug-2008 18:29:59] <npmccallum_> I believe it only detects ports which are pre-defiend
[19-Aug-2008 18:36:29] <rbw_> I'm trying to create a printer toner check by adding the correct OID in the device's template, the test completes successfully and output looks good but the toner status doesn't appear anywhere...not even in the event logs. what am I doing wrong?
[19-Aug-2008 18:36:47] <rbw_> that wasn't me
[19-Aug-2008 18:37:14] rbw_ is now known as rbw
[19-Aug-2008 18:39:49] <npmccallum_> rbw: Did you create a graph to go with it?
[19-Aug-2008 18:40:22] <rbw> npmccallum_, nope.
[19-Aug-2008 18:40:41] <npmccallum_> you'll need to create a graph in order to see the data point
[19-Aug-2008 18:41:54] <rbw> npmccallum_, uhm...why is that? I just an email notice when the toner cartrige is about to run out.
[19-Aug-2008 18:42:01] <rbw> i just want an email
[19-Aug-2008 18:42:45] <npmccallum_> oh, ok
[19-Aug-2008 18:42:53] <npmccallum_> then you need to create a threshold
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:03] <npmccallum_> you don't *need* to create a graph
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:08] <rbw> npmccallum_, I see..
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:10] <npmccallum_> but having the graph is handy
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:18] <npmccallum_> if you wanted to look at historical trends
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:28] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[19-Aug-2008 18:43:58] <rbw> npmccallum_, well, I want graphs too...but getting the actual alarm is kind of priority #1
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:03] <rbw> npmccallum_, thanks man.
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:23] <npmccallum_> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:31] <awharrier> can anyone tell me why uptime, disk space free and disk space used are only collected for my servers when i manually run zenperfsmnp a few times?
[19-Aug-2008 18:44:45] <npmccallum_> you define the data source, then any thresholds you want, then you createa graph w/ data points
[19-Aug-2008 18:45:22] <npmccallum_> awharrier: I'm not sure what you are asking...
[19-Aug-2008 18:47:06] <awharrier> well when i have added a device then snmp collects infomation such as OS, software installed, hardware etc but never information on the amount of free space on disks or the system uptime
[19-Aug-2008 18:47:59] <awharrier> some servers i have had added to zenoss for months and it still won't get this info by itself the only way i can do it is to run zenperfsmnp from the zenoss server, even then the information is only held for a few days then its gone again
[19-Aug-2008 18:48:03] <rbw> npmccallum_, still doesn't work.
[19-Aug-2008 18:48:44] <npmccallum_> rbw: what doesn't work?
[19-Aug-2008 18:49:47] <npmccallum_> awharrier: it sounds like zenmodeler is working, but not zenperfsnmp
[19-Aug-2008 18:50:06] <rbw> npmccallum_, how are data sources and thresholds associated anyway? I just added a threshold but I there's no where to chose which data source to create the threshold of...I don't get it.
[19-Aug-2008 18:50:53] <awharrier> also i have just had a look at a random server it has just raised an event but the last collection date is
[19-Aug-2008 18:50:53] <awharrier> 2008/07/30 20:32:29.000
[19-Aug-2008 18:51:19] <awharrier> is my collector schedule broken?
[19-Aug-2008 18:51:40] <jiffe99> anyone familiar with monitoring windows services?
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:08] <npmccallum_> awharrier: is zenperfsnmp running? check Services -> Daemons
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:50] <npmccallum_> rbw: what template have you put this in?
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:56] <awharrier> yes all services are running
[19-Aug-2008 18:52:57] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: what do you need?
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:20] <npmccallum_> awharrier: service zenoss stop ; find /opt/zenoss/ -name *.zec -exec rm -f '{}' \; ; service zenoss start
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:28] <rbw> npmccallum_, in the default template which comes with the device, I've also tried creating a new template.
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:42] <npmccallum_> what is the name of the template/
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:43] <npmccallum_> ?
[19-Aug-2008 18:54:55] <rbw> npmccallum_, 'test'
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:03] <rbw> npmccallum_, does that really matter?
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:08] <npmccallum_> yes, significantly
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:18] <rbw> npmccallum_, oh?
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:35] <npmccallum_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch12s03.html
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:51] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Aug-2008 18:55:56] <npmccallum_> http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/07/03/tip-of-the-month-how-zenoss-chooses-templates/
[19-Aug-2008 18:56:11] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Tip of the Month: How Zenoss Chooses Templates | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[19-Aug-2008 18:56:30] <rbw> npmccallum_, alright...thanks!
[19-Aug-2008 18:56:52] <npmccallum_> rbw: basically, I think you need to add the data source, threshold and graph to the Device template
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:03] <jiffe99> I am trying to monitor a service on a windows 2003 machine but I can't seem to figure out how to do it
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:04] <awharrier> npmccallum: my directory structure is a bit different to what you specified (im running debian), but i have now deleted all *.zec files and started the zenoss daemons
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:21] <rbw> npmccallum_, that doesn't make any sense. :-)
[19-Aug-2008 18:58:30] <rbw> npmccallum_, but I'll give it a try.
[19-Aug-2008 18:59:35] <npmccallum_> It really actually does make sense
[19-Aug-2008 18:59:55] <npmccallum_> but you have to know a little about programming to know why
[19-Aug-2008 19:00:12] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: are you using WMI?
[19-Aug-2008 19:01:04] <rbw> npmccallum_, well, now it makes sense. after reading those documents
[19-Aug-2008 19:01:37] <awharrier> i have manually modelled a device but it still shows the same information
[19-Aug-2008 19:02:04] <npmccallum_> awharrier: did you run the command I posted?
[19-Aug-2008 19:02:18] <awharrier> i version of it, yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:03:31] <npmccallum_> awharrier: do you understand the difference between modeling and performance monitoring?
[19-Aug-2008 19:04:20] <awharrier> to be honest probably not, i guess the disk usage falls into the latter
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:07] <jiffe99> I have wmi and snmp installed
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:22] <npmccallum_> awharrier: actually, it requires both
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:27] <awharrier> another strange thing is that i get warnings when the free disk space falls below a threshold i have set which i guess would depend on the performance monitoring side
[19-Aug-2008 19:06:47] <npmccallum_> modeling creates FileSystem objects within the Device
[19-Aug-2008 19:07:02] <npmccallum_> then the FileSystem template applies to all the FileSystem objects
[19-Aug-2008 19:07:21] <npmccallum_> step #1 is modeling, step #2 is performance monitoring
[19-Aug-2008 19:07:51] <npmccallum_> if you have all of your filesystems listed, including "total size", than modeling is working correctly
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:18] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: I actually don't know what works on windows in Zenoss Core
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:30] <awharrier> yes i get volume labels and total bytes
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:38] <npmccallum_> awharrier: ok, then modeling is working
[19-Aug-2008 19:08:54] <npmccallum_> I suspect the error is found in the FileSystem template
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:12] <npmccallum_> or there is something causing zenperfsnmp not to run
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:15] <jiffe99> as opposed to enterprise?
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:27] <npmccallum_> you said you get data when you run zenperfsnmp manually?
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:48] <awharrier> yes, although it usually takes a few attempts
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:53] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: yes. I know the enterprise WMI plugin collects service data, I'm not sure about Core
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:53] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: sorry!
[19-Aug-2008 19:09:59] <npmccallum_> awharrier: do you get any errors?
[19-Aug-2008 19:10:16] <awharrier> i will do one and log it
[19-Aug-2008 19:10:57] <jiffe99> ok
[19-Aug-2008 19:16:00] <awharrier> here is the output of zenperfsnmp -v 10 -d fs2k-mvm, http://pastebin.com/m3595c20d
[19-Aug-2008 19:16:13] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:20:06] <npmccallum_> strange
[19-Aug-2008 19:20:27] <awharrier> sorry that was a bad example, 2 mins
[19-Aug-2008 19:22:05] <Firestar> awharrier, you have SNMP informant installed on that windows box?
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:01] <jiffe99> it might be firewalled off, any idea what ports might need to be open?
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:47] <awharrier> this is a better example, http://pastebin.com/maec69ee
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:54] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:23:55] <awharrier> Firestar: yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:25:27] <awharrier> that last run of "zenperfsmp run -v 10 -d fs3k-cmbcdc2" has collected the information i wanted for that server but it will be gone again in a few days
[19-Aug-2008 19:25:37] <npmccallum_> define "gone"
[19-Aug-2008 19:26:38] <awharrier> used bytes and free bytes of all disks and system uptime will show as "unknown"
[19-Aug-2008 19:26:59] <npmccallum_> ok
[19-Aug-2008 19:27:11] <npmccallum_> what happens if you click on the filesystem link?
[19-Aug-2008 19:27:18] <npmccallum_> you should have some kind of graph
[19-Aug-2008 19:28:05] <awharrier> there is a graph but no much on it
[19-Aug-2008 19:28:55] <awharrier> i have one vertical line which indicates 18%
[19-Aug-2008 19:29:32] <npmccallum_> and I assume your filesystem is 18% full?
[19-Aug-2008 19:29:53] <awharrier> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:30:16] <awharrier> that is for the server i have just ran zenperfsnmp against, the others show nothing
[19-Aug-2008 19:30:55] <jiffe99> yeah, I'm seeing ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT on zenwin
[19-Aug-2008 19:32:51] <npmccallum_> awharrier: what version is this?
[19-Aug-2008 19:33:26] <awharrier> good question, how can i find out?
[19-Aug-2008 19:33:43] <npmccallum_> Settings -> Versions
[19-Aug-2008 19:34:05] <awharrier> 2.2.3
[19-Aug-2008 19:35:52] <npmccallum_> What does it say under Collectors?
[19-Aug-2008 19:37:38] <awharrier> name:localhost, created: 2008/06/06 15:41:28, Last Mod: 2008/07/28 09:22:48
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:03] <awharrier> do you want the collector config aswell?
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:23] <npmccallum_> yeah
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:42] <awharrier> http://pastebin.com/m12a1b0ea
[19-Aug-2008 19:38:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:39:15] <npmccallum_> I don't see anything out of the ordinary
[19-Aug-2008 19:39:28] <npmccallum_> anything strange in /opt/zenoss/log?
[19-Aug-2008 19:41:26] <awharrier> in zenperfsnmp.log there is just stuff along the lines of:
[19-Aug-2008 19:41:26] <awharrier> 2008-07-28 15:35:11 INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: total=0 good=0 bad=0 time=0.000017
[19-Aug-2008 19:41:26] <awharrier> 2008-07-28 15:35:11 INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: sent 0 OID requests
[19-Aug-2008 19:44:30] <jiffe99> so zenoss isn't able to get service information via snmp?
[19-Aug-2008 19:44:46] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: it is
[19-Aug-2008 19:45:08] <jiffe99> I have snmp setup on the 2003 machine
[19-Aug-2008 19:45:25] <jiffe99> it is able to get snmp data because the walk returns
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:11] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: there are several factors though
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:11] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: does Windows expose this information via snmp or just WMI?
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:11] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: Does Zenoss core collect this information?
[19-Aug-2008 19:46:44] <jiffe99> yeah, I don't know the answer to either of those
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:03] <npmccallum_> does the walk contain service information?
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:20] <npmccallum_> Zenoss Enterprise *does* collect service information for Windows
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:35] <npmccallum_> I don't know if it is SNMP or WMI-only
[19-Aug-2008 19:47:44] <jiffe99> I think I'm only getting a partial, it times out after 15 seconds
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:07] <npmccallum_> what times out? the walk?
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:11] <jiffe99> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:35] <awharrier> im pretty sure its WMI only, thats one thing i do have working correctly
[19-Aug-2008 19:48:48] <jiffe99> core?
[19-Aug-2008 19:49:01] <awharrier> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:49:23] <jiffe99> there is a zenwin timeout event, maybe I just need to find out what port that needs
[19-Aug-2008 19:49:47] <awharrier> am i right in assuming "SNMP Performance Cycle Interval (secs)" relates to zenpersnmp ?
[19-Aug-2008 19:50:19] <npmccallum_> yes
[19-Aug-2008 19:50:39] <npmccallum_> It should be 300 by default
[19-Aug-2008 19:51:53] <awharrier> ok
[19-Aug-2008 19:52:15] <awharrier> i have just recreated zenperfsnmp.log and now its saying "2008-08-19 20:48:09 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Error loading config for devices"
[19-Aug-2008 19:52:38] <awharrier> and it lists nearly all devices, though it does not specify why it cannyy load the config
[19-Aug-2008 19:54:59] <jiffe99> it doesn't look like anything is listening on port 300 on the 2003 server according to netstat
[19-Aug-2008 19:58:35] <npmccallum_> awharrier: I think you have actually run into a bug on 2.2.3
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:19] <npmccallum_> jiffe99: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-test-wmi-connectivity/
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:34] <__adytum-bot__> Title: How To Test WMI Connectivity - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:38] <awharrier> i was thinking about rebuilding anyway i may just file a bug and install a previous version
[19-Aug-2008 19:59:49] <npmccallum_> awharrier: was this a clean install or an upgrade?
[19-Aug-2008 20:00:16] <jiffe99> well that works from the server itself
[19-Aug-2008 20:00:51] <npmccallum_> can you try it from another server?
[19-Aug-2008 20:01:01] <jiffe99> all the other servers are linux/freebs
[19-Aug-2008 20:01:03] <jiffe99> freebsd
[19-Aug-2008 20:01:40] <npmccallum_> you don't have any windows workstations around?
[19-Aug-2008 20:03:48] <jiffe99> good call
[19-Aug-2008 20:04:55] <npmccallum_> awharrier: also, do you have the NetApp ZenPack installed?
[19-Aug-2008 20:21:00] <awharrier> it was a clean install, i dont have any zenpacks installed
[19-Aug-2008 20:27:45] <jsm> wish i could find the hello world zenpack
[19-Aug-2008 20:28:14] <rbw> is it possible to add new components?
[19-Aug-2008 20:30:49] <rbw> nevermind, it got added automagically. ;-)
[19-Aug-2008 20:33:01] <jiffe99> yeah, I can connect from the internal network but not externally
[19-Aug-2008 20:33:08] <jiffe99> so it is probably the firewall
[19-Aug-2008 20:37:21] <jiffe99> looks like port 135
[19-Aug-2008 20:37:45] <npmccallum_> awharrier: I'd try a clean install again and see if that fixes things
[19-Aug-2008 20:45:25] <awharrier> will do, thanks for your help with this
[19-Aug-2008 21:25:09] <jsm> yay, postgresql zenpack is working.. defining the graphs now..
[19-Aug-2008 21:28:02] <jb> nice
[19-Aug-2008 21:35:27] <jiffe99> well tcp135 doesn't seem to be working
[19-Aug-2008 21:37:29] <jsm> hmmm... it appears performance data isn't being collected for my zenpack... how do I debug this?
[19-Aug-2008 21:38:03] <jb> run "zenperfsnmp run -v10 -d hostname"
[19-Aug-2008 21:38:08] <jb> and see if there are any errors
[19-Aug-2008 21:51:09] <jsm> jb, no errors... before there was an empty graph.. now i'm at least getting "nan" for my values
[19-Aug-2008 21:51:38] <jsm> i'd like to see the actual command being run and it's returned data
[19-Aug-2008 22:05:36] <kgoedtel> jsm: did you verify that your data source has datapoint(s)?
[19-Aug-2008 22:06:26] <jsm> kgoedtel, yeah, it sure does -- the available datapoints all popped up automatically
[19-Aug-2008 22:07:26] <kgoedtel> i'm trying to think of things i ran into when i made some of my own zenpacks
[19-Aug-2008 22:10:59] <jsm> kgoedtel, when i run the command i wrote, it returns the data fine: STATUS OK| numbackends=19
[19-Aug-2008 22:11:24] <jsm> but it's hard to track what it's doing in the belly of the zenoss beast
[19-Aug-2008 22:14:46] <kgoedtel> that's the truth
[19-Aug-2008 22:23:02] <daMaestro> how do we insert a \n in a "Send String" for a IPService monitor?
[19-Aug-2008 22:26:02] <kgoedtel> what the heck... zentestcommand no longer works for non snmp data sources...
[19-Aug-2008 23:16:13] <pb1dft> back..
[19-Aug-2008 23:21:31] <daMaestro> ok, lame.
[19-Aug-2008 23:21:53] <daMaestro> it seems that zenoss *still* removes manually added ip services when it re-models a device
[19-Aug-2008 23:28:13] <kso512> daMaestro: even if they're Locked?! lame
[19-Aug-2008 23:28:23] <daMaestro> yes
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[20-Aug-2008 00:11:00] <daMaestro> so, how much RAM do you guys give your zenoss instances?
[20-Aug-2008 00:11:25] <daMaestro> it seems 1G is not enough for ~30 devices
[20-Aug-2008 00:11:53] <daMaestro> i'm running a 32bit guest for our test zenoss instance (as zope uses tons less ram 32bit)
[20-Aug-2008 00:14:12] <daMaestro> kso512, ah... you can lock individual ipservices
[20-Aug-2008 00:14:16] <daMaestro> kso512, i'm trying that now
[20-Aug-2008 00:26:59] <daMaestro> kso512, seems if the individual ipservice is locked it might actually stay
[20-Aug-2008 00:31:47] rmull is now known as rmull_
[20-Aug-2008 04:01:47] <exkev> I updated to 2.2.3 tonight (from 2.1.3) and now my 10G interfaces are modeling as 1.410Gbps
[20-Aug-2008 04:02:06] <exkev> a 4GbE bundle is 2.820Gbps
[20-Aug-2008 04:06:18] <exkev> IF-MIB::ifSpeed.104 = Gauge32: 4294967295
[20-Aug-2008 04:06:22] <exkev> IF-MIB::ifHighSpeed.104 = Gauge32: 10000
[20-Aug-2008 04:06:26] <exkev> it's reporting properly
[20-Aug-2008 04:14:20] <exkev> actually, that's a 20G port-channel there doing 2.820
[20-Aug-2008 04:14:27] <exkev> a 4G is fine
[20-Aug-2008 04:14:36] <exkev> someone must have redone InterfaceMap.py
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:42] <exkev> yep
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:48] <exkev> what monkey did this:
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:54] <exkev> for ifidx, data in iftable.items():
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> try:
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> data['speed'] = unsigned(data['speed'])
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> except KeyError:
[20-Aug-2008 04:16:55] <exkev> pass
[20-Aug-2008 04:17:19] <exkev> it ignores the previous forloop's alteration of ifHighSpeed * 10e6
[20-Aug-2008 04:17:41] <exkev> hrm, or does it
[20-Aug-2008 04:21:11] <__adytum-bot__> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - New ULS Systems Blog - 31 Jul, 10:06PM
[20-Aug-2008 04:21:12] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=205
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:06] <exkev> yep, that's the culprit
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:07] <exkev> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:TenGigabitEthernet4/1: before 10000000000.0
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:07] <exkev> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:TenGigabitEthernet4/1: after 1410065408
[20-Aug-2008 04:35:20] <exkev> it's stuffing a big number into an unsigned32
[20-Aug-2008 04:37:37] <exkev> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset/8759
[20-Aug-2008 04:37:41] <exkev> that's the one
[20-Aug-2008 04:37:44] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Changeset 8759 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 04:54:55] <exkev> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3589
[20-Aug-2008 04:55:02] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3589 (Changeset 8759 breaks interfaces > 4Gbps) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 04:55:02] <exkev> patch submitted
[20-Aug-2008 05:56:37] zanaga_ is now known as zanaga
[20-Aug-2008 08:52:26] <nemo_> anyone know a command line way to delete OS processes
[20-Aug-2008 08:52:52] <nemo_> its very tedious to go through each one on the interface
[20-Aug-2008 09:13:24] <pb1dft> good morning
[20-Aug-2008 09:15:02] <nemo_> hey morning
[20-Aug-2008 09:15:12] <pb1dft> anyone knows how to change the goolg e map to the sattelite or terrain view
[20-Aug-2008 09:15:54] <MrTux> pb1dft: search the forums, there is a patch for this
[20-Aug-2008 09:17:03] <pb1dft> lemmi search
[20-Aug-2008 09:25:58] <pb1dft> MrTux: do you have any idea what search string to use
[20-Aug-2008 09:29:05] <MrTux> pb1dft: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4231&highlight=satellite+map and 5$ in the "i do not use google"-box
[20-Aug-2008 09:29:22] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Changing Google map view (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 09:32:16] * pb1dft feels so stupid
[20-Aug-2008 10:50:19] <faber_vr> hi guys I am having some problems running zenoss-stack on an ubuntu 8.04 can I get some help?
[20-Aug-2008 10:51:12] <nemo_> faber_vr, describe the problem, dont ask
[20-Aug-2008 10:51:55] <faber_vr> okz, sorry
[20-Aug-2008 10:51:58] <faber_vr> here we go
[20-Aug-2008 10:52:58] <faber_vr> when I try starting zenoss, here is what I get:
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> Daemon: zeoctl Error: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python is not an existing path
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> (line 41 in file:///usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zeo.conf)
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> For help, use /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zeoctl.py -h
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> Daemon: zopectl . Error: invalid value for -s '/usr/local/zenoss/var/zopectlsock': The directory named as part of the path /usr/local/zenoss/var/zopectlsock does not exist.
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:01] <faber_vr> For help, use /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py -h
[20-Aug-2008 10:53:36] <faber_vr> zope is the only service not starting, everything else seems to be fine
[20-Aug-2008 10:54:55] <nemo_> did you use google on the errors ?
[20-Aug-2008 10:55:50] <nemo_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20121
[20-Aug-2008 10:56:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problems with zope after upgrade to 2.2.0 (Debian) (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 10:58:55] <alexPG123> hi, i am new to networking and zenoss, so i wanted to ask why i dont get my added devices listed in Classes\Devices.
[20-Aug-2008 10:58:55] <alexPG123> I work with newest Ubuntu and get no error messages when adding a device in Management\Add Device.
[20-Aug-2008 10:59:37] <nemo_> alexPG123, read the manual . it will tell you they are in discovered devices unless you tell it different
[20-Aug-2008 11:00:26] <alexPG123> i will look a bit closer @ the manual, ok
[20-Aug-2008 11:01:47] <nemo_> good man
[20-Aug-2008 11:02:55] <alexPG123> have lunch now, will be back later
[20-Aug-2008 12:04:19] <Laguna321> hey all
[20-Aug-2008 12:05:55] <Laguna321> hey anybody here?
[20-Aug-2008 12:08:03] <arunt_> hey guys can some one help me out with certain problems i am facing with zenoss
[20-Aug-2008 12:10:26] <arunt_> hi
[20-Aug-2008 12:10:58] <arunt_> hi
[20-Aug-2008 12:22:14] <arunt_> hi anyone?
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:37] <arunt_> ithu vaayikkunnavan thendi
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:40] <arunt_> ha ha
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:55] <arunt_> /usr/local/nagios/etc
[20-Aug-2008 12:25:59] <arunt_> very imp
[20-Aug-2008 12:34:12] <arunt__> hi any one?
[20-Aug-2008 12:34:22] rmull_ is now known as rmull
[20-Aug-2008 12:45:22] <SniZ|work> hi, i chage my hardware, but i dont touch hdd, and my zenoss very slow
[20-Aug-2008 13:03:07] <Laguna321> hi anyone ?
[20-Aug-2008 13:04:43] <cciewu> good morning
[20-Aug-2008 13:06:53] <Laguna321> finnaaly some one to help
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:09] <Laguna321> eh its good evening here but thats k
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:23] <cciewu> evening? where u from?
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:26] <cciewu> nyc here
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:30] <Laguna321> wow
[20-Aug-2008 13:07:43] <Laguna321> i am from india but i stay in uae
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:00] <cciewu> figured the ae=Arab Emirates?
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:07] <Laguna321> yeah
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:14] <cciewu> so how can i help?
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:14] <Laguna321> :-D
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:21] <cciewu> if i can
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:33] <Laguna321> well kinda got a long list here but i will try to keep it short
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:48] <cciewu> ok first off what version r u working with?
[20-Aug-2008 13:08:56] <Laguna321> 2.2.0
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:16] <cciewu> what r u monitoring? nix ? windows? network devices?
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:21] <Laguna321> well i tried 2.2.3 and i thought that might have a problem so i uninstalled it and installed 2.2.0
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:27] <cciewu> ok
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:30] <Laguna321> well kinda all of them
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:38] <cciewu> ok so what's not working?
[20-Aug-2008 13:09:53] <Laguna321> oh no its working fine just not linkin up
[20-Aug-2008 13:10:07] <cciewu> explain please
[20-Aug-2008 13:10:23] <Laguna321> well when i put autodiscovery it finds nodes which are both windows and macs
[20-Aug-2008 13:10:34] <Laguna321> even though thier snmp agent is up or not
[20-Aug-2008 13:11:11] <Laguna321> so like i read in the forums that the network map get created only after u place these devices inside a location, so i created locations
[20-Aug-2008 13:11:44] <cciewu> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:12:18] <Laguna321> but i have over 250 devices and so i selected all of them and put them in a single location and when i open up the network map it just shows me my network and two devices connected to it which happens to b my mac airport
[20-Aug-2008 13:12:54] <Laguna321> and when i double click on them it just keeps toggling btw these three devices and thats that nutin much sumtin i am doin wrong here?
[20-Aug-2008 13:13:30] <Laguna321> i am looking at my zenoss dashboard now
[20-Aug-2008 13:13:32] <cciewu> well before you look at locations can you actually see all the devices you asked to scan for on that subnet?
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:16] <Laguna321> yeah all of them though i cant get all the information from each as thier snmp agent is down
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:34] <cciewu> have you done a snmpwalk to them?
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:42] <cciewu> and do you know they are up?
[20-Aug-2008 13:14:54] <Laguna321> but the funny part is i have my mac book and that for sure has net-snmp installed and that dosent show up on the map
[20-Aug-2008 13:15:38] <Laguna321> yeah my mac book does but my windows based laptop has snmp and when we do a snmpwalk it returns an error
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:06] <cciewu> is your community setup correctily?
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:19] <cciewu> also make sure you're scanning for the proper snmp version
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:40] <cciewu> sometimes you're scanning for v1 when everybody is running v2c
[20-Aug-2008 13:16:44] <cciewu> or vice versa
[20-Aug-2008 13:17:06] <Laguna321> so that means i need to go in person to eachof the devices and change the community to PUBLIC coz thats the community name thats been assigned?
[20-Aug-2008 13:17:25] <Laguna321> and where do u change the snmp version when scanning for?
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:09] <cciewu> well i wouldn't go to all 250 i'd go to one that doesn't work and see what version it is set to
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:24] <cciewu> on linux you can look at /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf and it'll tell you
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:30] <cciewu> i'm not sure on windows
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:42] <Laguna321> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:18:57] <Laguna321> thats for the version of the snmp
[20-Aug-2008 13:19:02] <cciewu> let me lookup the setting in zenoss, but i'm pretty sure its under settings and zproperties
[20-Aug-2008 13:19:34] <Laguna321> i think for scanning we go to network and then discover devices right?
[20-Aug-2008 13:21:24] <cciewu> yeah
[20-Aug-2008 13:21:42] <cciewu> now r all your devices on /24 or /16 networks?
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:26] <Laguna321> heheheheh i dont know what that means if ur asking me the values under zdefaultnetworktree then its /24 and /32
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:48] <cciewu> size of network
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:52] <cciewu> class b/c
[20-Aug-2008 13:22:52] <jsm> I'm developing a Postgresql ZenPack, and have run into an issue -- (not collecting any stats) -- if someone can take a look here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23940#23940 .. I'd like to get this thing released to the public by friday
[20-Aug-2008 13:23:11] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Postgresql ZenPack, almost finished! (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 13:23:27] <cciewu> goodluck jsm
[20-Aug-2008 13:23:52] <jsm> cciewu, i don't need luck, i need help
[20-Aug-2008 13:24:11] <cciewu> well luck > right person comes on line to help!
[20-Aug-2008 13:24:41] <Laguna321> eh dude me right here
[20-Aug-2008 13:24:54] <cciewu> laguna: devices/zproperties
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:02] <cciewu> snmp version: v2c
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:05] <Laguna321> hold on
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:19] <cciewu> also how many networks are you dealing with?
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:42] <Laguna321> well i am having two one local and one vpn
[20-Aug-2008 13:25:45] <jsm> i wish the zenoss devs actually hung out on this channel.
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:21] <cciewu> well i've been given a secret message that they'll appear at 11am EST on Aug 28
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:36] <jsm> wow, how thoughtful of them.
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:38] <cciewu> check topic
[20-Aug-2008 13:26:59] <jsm> most of the other oss channels have at least one developer on there..
[20-Aug-2008 13:27:31] <cciewu> yeah i don't think zenoss gets the love it deserves
[20-Aug-2008 13:27:49] <jsm> it would help if the devs nurtured their community
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:07] <jsm> the more ZenPacks , the more people it's going to appeal to
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:08] <cciewu> oh buy their enterprise product and they'll nurture you
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:30] Cosmin is now known as IoNu|z
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:30] <cciewu> i'm running 2.1.2 and zenpacks are fubar
[20-Aug-2008 13:28:40] <cciewu> so i don't think i'm missing much
[20-Aug-2008 13:37:32] <Laguna321> hey cciewu thnx dude
[20-Aug-2008 13:39:13] <cciewu> did it work?
[20-Aug-2008 13:39:33] <Laguna321> well yeah the snmp v2 devices all got discovered
[20-Aug-2008 13:39:42] <cciewu>
[20-Aug-2008 13:40:13] <Laguna321> but when i placed them all into a single location cause it was a small network i created for testing they dont show up on the network map
[20-Aug-2008 13:40:18] <Laguna321> what do i do for that?
[20-Aug-2008 13:40:48] <cciewu> well i don't use the location(geo-thing) so i'm sorry i can't help out there
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:14] <Laguna321> well the location geo thing is for the google maps right
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:16] <Laguna321> not that
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:30] <Laguna321> there is a tab called network map right?
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:32] <Laguna321> that
[20-Aug-2008 13:41:42] <cciewu> ok let me take a look at mine
[20-Aug-2008 13:42:58] <cciewu> ok mine is still transferring data, i should've chosen a smaller network oops
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:27] <Laguna321> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:29] <Laguna321> np
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:48] <Laguna321> hey another thing
[20-Aug-2008 13:44:56] <cciewu> ok
[20-Aug-2008 13:45:09] <cciewu> i'll let you know if my network map ever shows up
[20-Aug-2008 13:45:20] <Laguna321> heheheheh kewl
[20-Aug-2008 13:45:56] <cciewu> aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:11] <Laguna321> is it important to place the devices in the coorect location or what
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:13] <cciewu> ok it works
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:19] <Laguna321> huh?
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:42] <Laguna321> so what settings did u change?
[20-Aug-2008 13:46:44] <cciewu> i got this blue bouncing ball for my network and all these penguins around it
[20-Aug-2008 13:47:07] <cciewu> make sure your selected network and device class filter are similar
[20-Aug-2008 13:47:25] <Laguna321> cool i got just one cloud and one harddisk connected to it when there should be three
[20-Aug-2008 13:47:51] <Laguna321> where do i check my device class filter
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:00] <cciewu> i know i'm not supposed to ask but if you want i can email you a png
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:32] <cciewu> take the first 2 numbers of your network and add 0.0 behind it
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:47] <cciewu> like 192.168.0.0 and set your device class filter to /server/linux
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:49] <Laguna321> well thats what we do when we want to autodiscover right?
[20-Aug-2008 13:49:58] <cciewu> yeah
[20-Aug-2008 13:50:29] <cciewu> i know i haven't asked but also be aware of any iptables or firewalls running as well
[20-Aug-2008 13:51:24] <cciewu> laguna i'm sending your a png of my deskstop
[20-Aug-2008 13:51:28] <cciewu> accept
[20-Aug-2008 13:52:07] <Laguna321> send again
[20-Aug-2008 13:52:38] <cciewu> ok i'm sending again now
[20-Aug-2008 13:52:51] <cciewu> i think you have to open a private chat with me and accept
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:01] <Laguna321> i dont know its not connecting
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:15] <Laguna321> whenever i click acept it just fails
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:20] <cciewu> darn
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:28] <cciewu> ok want me to email it?
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:32] <cciewu> only 1.03mb
[20-Aug-2008 13:53:33] <Firestar> Try using www.tinypic.com to give him the screen shot
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:09] <Laguna321> na thats k cause i have a general idea of what ur talkin about
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:15] <cciewu> k
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:27] <Laguna321> but i have like u said put 172.16.x.x/16
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:34] <Laguna321> 172.16.x.x/24
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:40] <Laguna321> 172.16.x.x/32
[20-Aug-2008 13:54:54] <Laguna321> these three come under he 172.16.x.x network
[20-Aug-2008 13:55:04] <cciewu> well you only really need the first one 172.16.x.x/16
[20-Aug-2008 13:55:13] <cciewu> unless you really want to separate the networks
[20-Aug-2008 13:57:04] <Laguna321> k but i found four devices which is correct
[20-Aug-2008 13:57:27] <Laguna321> but what i dont understand is why they are not creating the network map
[20-Aug-2008 13:59:55] <Firestar> The four devices, are they accessible by SNMP?
[20-Aug-2008 14:00:22] <Laguna321> yup wait i am scanning again using only 172.16.0.0/16
[20-Aug-2008 14:06:41] <Laguna321> ok guys thnxs again for the help got to go now
[20-Aug-2008 14:06:48] <Laguna321> times up cya tomm
[20-Aug-2008 14:27:50] <jb> anyone here?
[20-Aug-2008 14:27:56] <Firestar> no
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:13] <nemo_> what a dumb question ...
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:27] <cciewu> well in spirit
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:30] <jb> heh
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:39] <cciewu> we're really ghouls
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:50] <jb> you guys think 8 cores is overkill for ~130 devices?
[20-Aug-2008 14:28:57] <jb> nemo_: and what a dumb answer.
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:17] <cciewu> i have 4 for ~280 devices (8G RAM)
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:30] <jb> hows it holding up?
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:37] <cciewu> not bad
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:39] <jb> this box will have 16GB
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:42] <cciewu> no problems really
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:54] <cciewu> i wouldn't really worry about the proc, more mem
[20-Aug-2008 14:29:55] <jb> ok, I think im just going to go with a single quad core then
[20-Aug-2008 14:30:02] <jb> yeah thats what I was thinking
[20-Aug-2008 14:30:07] <jb> my current 2 core box is doing ok..
[20-Aug-2008 14:30:36] <Nate187> I've got 2 dual core xeons, 3GB ram, ~120 devices and my load is 0.07
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:03] <jb> ok cool
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:04] <Nate187> but i'll see the cpu go up to 100% sometimes, is it only using 1 cpu?
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:09] <jb> Quad Core Intel® Xeon®X5460, 2x6MB Cache, 3.16GHz, 1333MHz FSB
[20-Aug-2008 14:31:16] <jb> that will be fine then
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:21] <IoNu|z> anyone know what this is?
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:22] <IoNu|z> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:22] <IoNu|z> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/zendisc.py", line 269, in inner
[20-Aug-2008 15:11:22] <IoNu|z> raise ZentinelException(result.value)
[20-Aug-2008 15:12:52] <daMaestro> is there any way to copy graphs/definitions between reports?
[20-Aug-2008 15:13:10] <daMaestro> having to re-create definitions for multiple reports is ... umm.. sub optimal
[20-Aug-2008 15:22:03] <ganiman> I'm trying to implement ldap authentication on an existing zenoss installation using the how-to found here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/
[20-Aug-2008 15:22:14] <ganiman> I believe there are things missing from this guide
[20-Aug-2008 15:22:17] <__adytum-bot__> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 15:23:20] <ganiman> when I am in the acl_users object, there is no LDAP option in the add drop down
[20-Aug-2008 15:23:27] <ganiman> I have installed the Products correctly
[20-Aug-2008 15:23:51] <ganiman> but the drop down to add plugins does not show the Products I have added
[20-Aug-2008 15:25:57] <nemo_> ganiman, nods
[20-Aug-2008 15:26:07] <nemo_> it tooks a fair bit of fiddling to get it working here too
[20-Aug-2008 15:26:23] <nemo_> i had to define a UPN also, comes with just SAMAccount configured
[20-Aug-2008 15:31:49] <ganiman> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6755&highlight=ldap
[20-Aug-2008 15:32:04] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP / ActiveDirectory Authentication (at community.zenoss.com)
[20-Aug-2008 15:32:06] <ganiman> I'm running zenoss on gentoo - perhaps I need to tell python to update something
[20-Aug-2008 15:32:18] <ganiman> that topic seems to have the same problem I am having
[20-Aug-2008 15:38:53] <daMaestro> ganiman, do you have python-ldap installed?
[20-Aug-2008 15:39:28] <daMaestro> does anyone know why when i add a production state (for example, staging) zenoss is not polling those devices?
[20-Aug-2008 15:39:55] <davetoo> what numeric value did you give to that production state?
[20-Aug-2008 15:40:18] <ganiman> daMaestro: yes, python-ldap is installed
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:01] <davetoo> Look at the zProdStateThreshold zProperty
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:06] <daMaestro> davetoo, ah.. thanks.
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:06] <davetoo> in /Devices, for example
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:13] <daMaestro> davetoo, well i set it to 450
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:30] <davetoo> The Staging state?
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:32] <daMaestro> ganiman, i'll be setting up ldap access sometime today i think
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:39] <daMaestro> davetoo, i added a state
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:43] <daMaestro> davetoo, "staging"
[20-Aug-2008 15:41:52] <davetoo> right, and you assigned the value 450 to that state?
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:07] <daMaestro> yes
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:17] <daMaestro> however, the state level was 150 :-/
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:21] <daMaestro> so i changed it back to 450
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:25] <daMaestro> that seems to have helped
[20-Aug-2008 15:43:52] <daMaestro> davetoo, yup.. bumping it up to 450 worked
[20-Aug-2008 15:44:58] <daMaestro> ganiman, this looks like it's exactly how to setup ldap auth in plone
[20-Aug-2008 15:45:23] <ganiman> what is "this"?
[20-Aug-2008 15:45:56] <daMaestro> ganiman, setting up LDAP auth
[20-Aug-2008 15:46:28] <ganiman> I don't follow..
[20-Aug-2008 15:46:38] <daMaestro> is there really no repozo ?
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:00] <ganiman> setting up ldap authentiction in zope/zenoss is the same as setting it up in plone?
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:05] <ganiman> is that what you're trying to say?
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:24] <daMaestro> ganiman, they use the same code, yes
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:34] <daMaestro> ganiman, so i'd be able to help in ~5 hours
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:36] <daMaestro> lol
[20-Aug-2008 15:47:55] <daMaestro> unless our new ldap tree goes live before I expect
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:23] <daMaestro> btw, that "recommended" backup command is not the best way to backup zope
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:30] <davetoo> How do you control access with LDAP auth?
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:44] <davetoo> how do you restrict permissions?
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:55] <davetoo> daMaestro: what is the recommended method?
[20-Aug-2008 15:48:59] <davetoo> for the backup?
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:04] <daMaestro> davetoo, i've not looked, but it uses the same bits as plone.. so you likely map ldap groups to zope roles
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:15] <daMaestro> davetoo, repozo
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:31] <daMaestro> davetoo, it can do online backups
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:35] <daMaestro> davetoo, delta backups
[20-Aug-2008 15:49:36] <daMaestro> etc
[20-Aug-2008 15:51:04] <daMaestro> /opt/zenoss/bin/repozo.py
[20-Aug-2008 15:51:08] <daMaestro> in the rpm
[20-Aug-2008 15:51:31] <daMaestro> blah, they really, really need to ship a pth definition with the rpm
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:17] <ganiman> or people could just stop using rpms
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> [jon@frontier ~]$ rpm -ql zope|grep pth
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/zope.pth
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> [jon@frontier ~]$ cat /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/zope.pth
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:18] <daMaestro> /usr/lib64/zope/lib/python
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:27] <daMaestro> ganiman, give me a buildout, and sure
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:39] <daMaestro> meteoroid, is working on one iirc
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:42] <ganiman> has to be the worst package system ever though up
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:51] <daMaestro> ok, let's stay on /topic please
[20-Aug-2008 15:52:55] <daMaestro> ;-)
[20-Aug-2008 15:54:08] <daMaestro> davetoo, PYTHONPATH=/opt/zenoss/lib/python /opt/zenoss/bin/repozo.py --help
[20-Aug-2008 15:55:18] <faber_vr> hi everyone
[20-Aug-2008 15:55:36] <faber_vr> after upgrading zenoss, I can't see any portlets in the dashboard... did this happen to anyone of you?
[20-Aug-2008 15:55:49] <faber_vr> I tried looking for some info in google but i had no luck
[20-Aug-2008 16:10:02] <cciewu> can't you just re-add them?
[20-Aug-2008 16:12:20] <davetoo> browser/zope cache
[20-Aug-2008 16:12:50] <meteoroid> daMaestro: yeap, but there is no documentation on how to install zenoss from source except for existing scripts, taking a while to get sorted out..
[20-Aug-2008 16:12:51] <davetoo> zenoss stop; cd $ZENHOME/var; rm *.zec; zenoss start
[20-Aug-2008 16:13:01] * meteoroid still can't even get a service monitored on the copy of zenoss he has running via rpms
[20-Aug-2008 16:13:10] <davetoo> but first try shift+reload in your browser
[20-Aug-2008 16:13:19] <meteoroid> daMaestro: i have a pretty clear idea now, maybe by this weekend i can make some new progress
[20-Aug-2008 16:17:07] <faber_vr> cciewu: when I click on 'Add portlet...', I just get an empty window...
[20-Aug-2008 16:17:51] <faber_vr> davetoo: I tried also removing browser and zope cache but it didn't help
[20-Aug-2008 16:23:55] <davetoo> faber_vr: did you stop zenoss and clear the .zec files?
[20-Aug-2008 16:24:10] <faber_vr> yes
[20-Aug-2008 16:25:11] <Firestar> faber_vr, did you upgrade using an RPM, or from source?
[20-Aug-2008 16:28:54] <faber_vr> i used the binary for ubuntu
[20-Aug-2008 16:42:50] <jiffe99> well port 135 is open, I'm still getting wmi timeouts though
[20-Aug-2008 16:44:41] <Nate187> How would you set up a hierarchy, so if a router fails it wouldn't flood alarms from devices behind it?
[20-Aug-2008 16:50:54] <davetoo> the ping tree is supposed to handle that
[20-Aug-2008 16:55:07] <Nate187> i had the routemap collector plugin disabled before i upgraded the ram
[20-Aug-2008 16:55:13] <Nate187> i'll readd that and see what happens
[20-Aug-2008 16:55:56] <Nate187> do you know if it gathers bgp routes by default?
[20-Aug-2008 17:03:35] <cciewu> no clue sorry
[20-Aug-2008 17:11:00] <MrTux> Nate187: the newroutemap gets bgp routes
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:27] <jsm> i'm lost
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:32] <jsm> all my datapoints are graphing now
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:35] <jsm> exact
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:46] <jsm> except for one
[20-Aug-2008 18:26:58] <jsm> and it's not any different than the others
[20-Aug-2008 18:58:18] <Bulwinkle> Hello
[20-Aug-2008 19:05:09] <jsm> hi
[20-Aug-2008 19:07:05] <Firestar> hi
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:12] <jsm> can anyone think of a reason one particular datapoint wouldn't be graphing?
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:18] <jsm> my script returns a value proper
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:21] <jsm> properly
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:31] <jsm> and i've set the datapoint to type GAGUE
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:33] <jsm> GAUGE
[20-Aug-2008 19:11:59] <jsm> but it's the only one out of 24 that's not graphing its value
[20-Aug-2008 19:49:46] <Nate187> whats the script output look like?
[20-Aug-2008 19:55:21] <jsm> Nate187, one sec
[20-Aug-2008 19:56:31] <jsm> STATUS OK|numbackends=19 blks_read=5205 xact_commit=176775 tup_deleted=12337 xact_rollback=79 blks_hit=30018499 tup_returned=1626817642 tup_updated=37994 tup_inserted=36311 tup_fetched=4330345 idx_scan=906993.0 n_tup_ins=24338.0 n_tup_del=11900.0 idx_tup_fetch=982467.0 n_tup_upd=37351.0 seq_tup_read=1599410035.0 seq_scan=1026512.0 heap_blks_hit=19999125.0 tidx_blks_read=4.0 toast_blks_hit=3270.0 idx_blks_hit=1517593.0 tidx_blks_hit=1029.0 to
[20-Aug-2008 19:56:32] <jsm> ast_blks_read=126.0 idx_blks_read=125.0 heap_blks_read=597.0
[20-Aug-2008 19:56:56] <jsm> forgive the line wrappage
[20-Aug-2008 19:57:16] <jsm> numbackends is not getting graphed
[20-Aug-2008 20:44:40] _Tino is now known as Tinozaure
[20-Aug-2008 22:07:58] <jeld> I am trying to fix some stuff in the HPMonitor ZenPack, is there any documentation on writing collector plugins?
[20-Aug-2008 22:31:11] <jsm> jeld, i just finished a zenpack.. what are you having problems with?
[20-Aug-2008 22:34:16] <jeld> well, for example, some of my boxes are of models not included in the ZenPack, can I automatically add products as part of the detection?
[20-Aug-2008 22:37:01] <jeld> if I could do that I could use HOST-RESOURCES-V2-MIB to map all the installed packages on all boxes
[20-Aug-2008 22:38:10] <jsm> i don't think you could automatically add
[20-Aug-2008 22:38:33] <jsm> i didn't have to do a collector piece for mine
[20-Aug-2008 22:39:02] <jeld> OK, how do I set OS name and version from collector plugin?
[20-Aug-2008 22:39:28] <jeld> somehow HPModel plugin ends up with OS name and version mixed up
[20-Aug-2008 22:41:51] <jsm> have you looked in the zenpacks dir and looked at the python code?
[20-Aug-2008 22:41:59] <jsm> they probably mixed up the field
[20-Aug-2008 22:42:53] <jeld> yes, I did, it uses setOSProductKey to set OS, but I cannot seem to find any way to set name and version
[20-Aug-2008 22:42:55] <jeld> where do I look?
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[21-Aug-2008 06:28:19] <SniZ|work> hi, i chage my hardware, but i dont touch hdd, and my zenoss very slow
and not collect info.... wtf?[21-Aug-2008 07:05:27] <Han> How do I discover the version of my current zenoss install?
[21-Aug-2008 07:35:00] <Han> found it.
[21-Aug-2008 08:22:33] <nemo_> morning
[21-Aug-2008 08:29:42] <thrope> anyone else having trouble with the zenoss website?
[21-Aug-2008 08:30:40] <nemo_> yeh looks spooned
[21-Aug-2008 08:40:36] <nemo_> does work ,just mega slow
[21-Aug-2008 08:44:21] <thrope> well hopefully someones monitoring it and an alerts fired off somewhere
[21-Aug-2008 08:49:21] <Laguna321> hey guys i am back just in case some ones listening
[21-Aug-2008 08:53:15] <nemo_> thrope, would be embarrasing if not
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[21-Aug-2008 10:07:52] <Laguna321> hey guys i have a small problem here
[21-Aug-2008 10:28:50] <nemo_> well explain the problem perhaps
[21-Aug-2008 11:06:46] <Laguna321> hey sorry about b4 had to go for lunch
[21-Aug-2008 11:07:33] <Laguna321> well i have four devices which have been discovered and when i put them in locations they appear in the network map but just not in the correct order
[21-Aug-2008 11:08:42] <Laguna321> am i suppoused to put the locations in nested order so tht they appear like that?
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[21-Aug-2008 11:37:39] <pb1dft> good afternoon
[21-Aug-2008 11:42:46] <pb1dft> damn a suse freak just joined
[21-Aug-2008 11:44:16] <linash> pb1dft, who're you talking 'bout? me?
[21-Aug-2008 11:45:47] <pb1dft> indeed
[21-Aug-2008 11:46:44] <linash> how do you know that?
[21-Aug-2008 11:47:06] <pb1dft> cos i see what channels you just joined
[21-Aug-2008 11:47:22] <pb1dft> #opensuse-kernel #opensuse-bugs #opensuse-factory #opensuse-fr #openSUSE-project #opensuse-buildservice #opensuse-gnome #suse
[21-Aug-2008 11:48:33] <linash>
[21-Aug-2008 11:51:52] <pb1dft> does anyone have an idea to start remodelling a complete subnet?.
[21-Aug-2008 11:59:55] <SniZ|work> hi, i chage my hardware, but i dont touch hdd, and my zenoss very slow
and not collect info.... wtf?[21-Aug-2008 12:06:50] <nemo_> lol
[21-Aug-2008 12:21:50] <Laguna321> hey guys
[21-Aug-2008 12:21:55] <Laguna321> sorry about b4
[21-Aug-2008 12:22:07] <Laguna321> but i have a slight problem with my zenoss
[21-Aug-2008 12:22:57] <Laguna321> i have scanned my network and found four devices which support snmp
[21-Aug-2008 12:23:16] <Laguna321> and they also show up on my network list
[21-Aug-2008 12:23:37] <Laguna321> well to create a network map we have to arrange these devices into locations right
[21-Aug-2008 12:23:51] <Laguna321> so i put them all into a single location which is /
[21-Aug-2008 12:24:17] <Laguna321> but when i click on the network map it shows me a cloud whch is my network and only three devices connected to it
[21-Aug-2008 12:24:33] <Laguna321> sorry two devices
[21-Aug-2008 12:25:13] <Laguna321> and it does not show me the wireless router and the server on which the zenoss is installed in which is running fedora
[21-Aug-2008 12:25:19] <Laguna321> sumtin i might b doin wrong?
[21-Aug-2008 13:25:55] <pb1dft> Grr what's wrong with windoze and memoryPagesPerSec counters
[21-Aug-2008 15:03:28] <jsm> submitted my Postgresql ZenPack this morning
[21-Aug-2008 15:05:47] <jb> nice
[21-Aug-2008 15:26:04] <jeld> In an SnmpPlugin, can I map multiple OIDs to multiple arguments of a single set function?
[21-Aug-2008 15:26:30] <nemo_> good question, no idea !
[21-Aug-2008 15:27:58] <jeld> In general, where Device properties get actually set? I see that CollectorPlugin just returns collected data from the process() function, but where is it actually applied to the device?
[21-Aug-2008 15:34:14] <nemo_> the modellor
[21-Aug-2008 15:34:19] <nemo_> works with the plugins
[21-Aug-2008 17:47:51] <magnachef> has anyone ever noticed that if you add a device via IP, that has the same name as another device already in Zenoss, that it just change the IP and other info for the existing device?
[21-Aug-2008 17:48:11] <magnachef> I'm on 2.1.3
[21-Aug-2008 17:49:32] <nemo_> magnachef, not sure i understood.
[21-Aug-2008 17:49:53] <magnachef> so I have device named "server1" with IP 10.x.x.x
[21-Aug-2008 17:50:06] <nemo_> yup
[21-Aug-2008 17:50:19] <magnachef> I then add another device that has "server1" as well (for some reason) with IP 172.x.x.x
[21-Aug-2008 17:50:47] <nemo_> ahh
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:12] <nemo_> expected tho really
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:41] <nemo_> i have a sort of similar issue
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:45] <magnachef> it's changing the original server1's IP to 172.x.x.x, but keeping the same class
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:46] <nemo_> we use short names
[21-Aug-2008 17:51:59] <nemo_> e.g. server1.us.my.com
[21-Aug-2008 17:52:06] <nemo_> and server1.nl.myco.com
[21-Aug-2008 17:52:18] <nemo_> as long as i use the fqdn its ok
[21-Aug-2008 17:53:51] <magnachef> yeah, in this case, I am too
[21-Aug-2008 17:54:02] <magnachef> but very different device classes
[21-Aug-2008 17:54:29] <magnachef> the correct thing to do is to fix the names, I know, but seems like it should be based on IP and not device name
[21-Aug-2008 17:54:32] <magnachef> IMHO
[21-Aug-2008 17:56:25] <nemo_> yes i agree with that
[21-Aug-2008 17:56:37] <nemo_> it should wipe out something with a different ip
[21-Aug-2008 18:02:33] <nemo_> shouldnt**]
[21-Aug-2008 18:07:05] <jeld> I am trying to improve HPDeviceMap collector plugin. It seems to pick up a value from SNMP and set setOSProductKey() using it. What is OSProductKey?
[21-Aug-2008 18:07:47] <nemo_> its definition is in the admin guide , i read it today but its wasnt what i needed, and i forgot
[21-Aug-2008 18:08:05] <nemo_> towards the end there is a reference section that list all of em
[21-Aug-2008 18:14:39] <nemo_> i finally got the hang of upgrading now ..
[21-Aug-2008 18:29:34] <jeld> hmm
[21-Aug-2008 18:30:48] <jeld> "getOSProductKey Used to associate the operating system with a software product class" doesn't say much
[21-Aug-2008 18:31:33] <jeld> under HP MIBs there are two distinct keys, for OS name and version... I wonder how I can make it set both while modeling the device
[21-Aug-2008 18:39:03] <tinloaf> hi. how can something like this happen?: http://pastebin.com/m3c3b9d98
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[21-Aug-2008 18:39:45] <tinloaf> like, how can i see why the file is skipped, and why doesn't it find the MIB if "Loaded MIB foo" is returned?
[21-Aug-2008 20:23:33] <jeld> tinloaf, try zenmib run -v10 to see what is going on
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[21-Aug-2008 21:59:47] <sj7trunks> ehlo
[21-Aug-2008 22:07:29] <jb> hi sj
[21-Aug-2008 22:09:17] <sj7trunks> are you corrupt from efnet?
[21-Aug-2008 22:09:29] <sj7trunks> i knew a guy from there, so just wondering:)
[21-Aug-2008 22:13:06] <daMaestro> is it possible to migrate without migration of events?
[21-Aug-2008 22:13:20] <daMaestro> aka.. do i need to import the mysql db also? or just move hte Data.fs?
[21-Aug-2008 22:13:24] <daMaestro> the*
[21-Aug-2008 23:28:54] <daMaestro> are we able to use VHM with zenoss?
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[22-Aug-2008 03:20:13] <_Vile> hello there -- been getting an error w/ snmpclient -- checked google, the closest thing I found was modifying zprop timeout to 4 instead of 2.5... really related to difft devices etc... but I tried it anyway.... zen.SnmpClient Device xxxxxxx had an error: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: int expected instead of str instance ]
[22-Aug-2008 03:20:30] <_Vile> I can snmpwalk just fine from the host
[22-Aug-2008 03:20:46] <_Vile> but... perhaps the py client can't ?
[22-Aug-2008 03:21:23] <_Vile> anything additional that I can do to debug this, or has someone seen/resolved this item before ?
[22-Aug-2008 03:23:33] <_Vile> the other thought I had was loading up mib's... because I'm not sure if snmpclient is using .1 as a base.... so, perhaps there's a section of adding that I'm lacking
[22-Aug-2008 03:23:55] <_Vile> which may/may not result in that error
[22-Aug-2008 03:24:46] <_Vile> curious for a lend of advice ? Tx
[22-Aug-2008 04:15:35] <zanaga> _Vile: apparently there is something odd being returned instead of a number in some of the fields
[22-Aug-2008 04:16:37] <zanaga> you could try and run the discovery from the command line and increase verbosity, it might show you which attribute is to blame
[22-Aug-2008 04:19:48] <_Vile> how would I go about doing that ?
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[22-Aug-2008 05:37:49] <zanaga> _Vile: you can get the command line used to scan the host from the add devices page (i'm assuming that it's the place where the problem is showing) and run that as the zenoss user on the zenoss host with -v10 parameter
[22-Aug-2008 05:44:58] <_Vile> ok will test that -- just ran /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zendisc after modifying zenfunctions w/ PYTHON="$ZOPEHOME/bin/python -v"
[22-Aug-2008 05:45:03] <_Vile> lemme revert
[22-Aug-2008 05:45:28] <_Vile> TY brb
[22-Aug-2008 05:46:02] <zanaga> the important part is to run it as the zenoss user, otherwise you will get errors later on during normal usage
[22-Aug-2008 05:48:17] <_Vile> yah was run as zenoss
[22-Aug-2008 05:48:23] <zanaga> good =)
[22-Aug-2008 05:48:55] <_Vile> lots of detail, didn't scroll through it -- hitting your suggestion first then if no success I'll run back through it
[22-Aug-2008 05:49:41] <_Vile> may take me to the same place, dunno yet
[22-Aug-2008 05:50:45] <_Vile> good catch tho... shoulda thought first to see what the page was calling
[22-Aug-2008 05:50:53] <_Vile> brain freeze
[22-Aug-2008 05:58:13] <_Vile> close -- Products/ZenModel/skins/zenmodel/addDevice.pt
[22-Aug-2008 06:59:00] <_Vile> ok nothing there ... mmm
[22-Aug-2008 06:59:38] <_Vile> im stuck again
[22-Aug-2008 07:03:20] <_Vile> I opened every port, disabled all checks on the iptables side.. completely open
[22-Aug-2008 07:03:42] <_Vile> puts me at harms risk, but...
[22-Aug-2008 07:04:30] <_Vile> same answer -- previously I had allowed all udp and tcp traffic w/ port 161 which I think is correct
[22-Aug-2008 07:04:34] <_Vile> same answer now
[22-Aug-2008 07:07:50] <zanaga> it's not the networking.. it's the snmp daemon on the network device
[22-Aug-2008 07:08:27] <zanaga> that error is caused by the snmp agent receiving a text string when it's expecting to receive a number
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:00] <_Vile> yah -- kk lemme do a ngrep on port 161 ? should that tell me more ?
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:33] <_Vile> this is the exact error... went through all details of zendisc... nada... ERROR zen.SnmpClient Unable to talk: SNMP info for xxx at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:161 timeout: 2.5 tries: 2 version: v1 community: xxxxxxx
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:33] <_Vile> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/SnmpClient.py", line 94, in doRun driver.next() File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Driver.py", line 58, in next raise ex TypeError: int expected instead of str instance
[22-Aug-2008 07:11:58] <_Vile> gotcha on int expected instead of str
[22-Aug-2008 07:12:45] <_Vile> b* of a time trying to track her down w/ no verbose ability... been looking for that .... but nothing there under snmp collection
[22-Aug-2008 07:13:13] <_Vile> that I can see anyway
[22-Aug-2008 07:18:05] <_Vile> eh, back to black screen bbiafm
[22-Aug-2008 07:22:29] <zanaga> ah...
[22-Aug-2008 07:22:42] <zanaga> have you tried another snmp version?
[22-Aug-2008 07:22:55] <zanaga> some devices don't like talking v1
[22-Aug-2008 07:37:46] <_Vile> it's gentoo, that's the biggest issue right there I think.. that end device... it should be able to do v1 and v2c and usm as configured from net-snmp
[22-Aug-2008 07:38:10] <_Vile> I didn't install the os... just inherited it
[22-Aug-2008 07:39:01] <_Vile> followed directions... can snmpwalk it just fine from the source machine that zenoss is installed on
[22-Aug-2008 07:39:16] <_Vile> which is also gentoo, same versions even I think
[22-Aug-2008 07:39:44] <_Vile> I must be doing something wrong
[22-Aug-2008 07:40:08] <_Vile> I was thinking earlier... my MIB's are empty... perhaps that's my issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:40:42] <_Vile> doing a clean install of zenoss to make sure I didn't mess up
[22-Aug-2008 07:40:45] <zanaga> mibs have no effect on adding a device
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:11] <_Vile> well the device addition works fine... but I get no info aside from that it's up... and that error does POP
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:22] <_Vile> when I'm installing
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:26] <_Vile> she does install
[22-Aug-2008 07:41:32] <_Vile> and I can see her in device lists etc
[22-Aug-2008 07:42:17] <_Vile> I just don't get any addlt info such as mem, hd etc... which was what I was saying about mib's earlier... ... and I get an orange, because it says snmp agent not avail
[22-Aug-2008 07:42:27] <_Vile> so I tracked that orange back to that install issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:42:41] <_Vile> err that device addition issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:43:04] <_Vile> which seems correct... if snmpclient can't talk to my snmpd on that host then
[22-Aug-2008 07:43:06] <_Vile> that's an issue
[22-Aug-2008 07:43:24] <_Vile> am I wrong here ?
[22-Aug-2008 07:44:35] <_Vile> I only wish it would go back one or two more levels like GDB does, and give me the previous of the previous of the previous or the previous on tracing in pythong
[22-Aug-2008 07:47:25] <zanaga> i would start checking that the community string is working, and that the community is not set to paranoid on the server side.
[22-Aug-2008 07:48:08] <zanaga> after that i would grab my trusty wireshark and start looking at the network traffic to figure out what is different in the snmpwalk and zenoss probe
[22-Aug-2008 08:08:39] <_Vile> heh
[22-Aug-2008 08:18:03] <_Vile> k hitting it TY zan -- oooh timeout on snmpwalk now too... and I can see the packets
[22-Aug-2008 08:18:35] <_Vile> and this config SHOULD be working
[22-Aug-2008 08:18:39] <_Vile> kk
[22-Aug-2008 08:23:27] <_Vile> ahh I changed the default back to public for the community string, so back to square one on int instead of str... I really need to get a full debug output on which mib attribute this is failing on
[22-Aug-2008 08:23:49] <_Vile> and can't, no matter what I try
[22-Aug-2008 08:24:57] <_Vile> furthest back it goes is driver.next
[22-Aug-2008 08:25:33] <_Vile> gr brb
[22-Aug-2008 08:56:06] <nemo_> flush-hosts mysql blocked
[22-Aug-2008 08:56:15] <nemo_> whats going on there
[22-Aug-2008 08:56:20] <nemo_> only a problem since 2.2.3
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[22-Aug-2008 13:12:33] <cciewu> anybody notice issues with the production state not being reported properly?
[22-Aug-2008 13:12:46] <cciewu> on portlets?
[22-Aug-2008 13:28:33] <_Vile> define properly
[22-Aug-2008 13:54:15] <cciewu> sometimes i notice in the dashboard only 5 machines
[22-Aug-2008 13:54:27] <cciewu> but when i got into device list i see more like 50 or so
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:16] <znemo> wakey wakey
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:26] <znemo> devices/token.MYZONE/editDevice?deviceGroups=ATG
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:42] <znemo> should i be able to edit groups with a REST statement like this ?
[22-Aug-2008 15:30:47] <znemo> would be very handy !
[22-Aug-2008 15:41:01] <_Vile> ccie: gotcha -- what happens when you reboot the server that maintains polling ?
[22-Aug-2008 15:51:26] <znemo> it stops polling till the os / app comes back
[22-Aug-2008 15:56:27] <cciewu> do i need to reboot my zenoss server?
[22-Aug-2008 15:56:45] <cciewu> i can its not a big deal
[22-Aug-2008 16:04:55] <znemo> i doubt it i was talking to _Vile
[22-Aug-2008 16:46:46] <magnachef> what do I need to do to have linkUp traps clear linkDown trap events?
[22-Aug-2008 17:08:26] <Nate187> they should clear automatically
[22-Aug-2008 17:40:38] <cciewu> transforms
[22-Aug-2008 18:35:47] <daMaestro> so, is there any way to use VHM?
[22-Aug-2008 18:35:55] <daMaestro> aka so we can use mod_proxy with apache?
[22-Aug-2008 18:36:03] <daMaestro> rather, how do I access the Z
[22-Aug-2008 18:36:05] <daMaestro> ZMI*
[22-Aug-2008 18:40:57] <daMaestro> nice! we can use VHM
[22-Aug-2008 18:41:00] <daMaestro> thank gawd
[22-Aug-2008 19:43:35] <sj7trunks> beep
[22-Aug-2008 19:44:57] <sj7trunks> trying to add an alert but not finding it in the documentation or forums
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:24] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, "preferences"
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:29] <sj7trunks> hehe
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:35] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, then, alerting rules
[22-Aug-2008 20:01:36] <sj7trunks> so it's considered a class
[22-Aug-2008 20:02:09] <sj7trunks> and i'm trying to create one with SNMP, it asks for an OID but i don't see anywhere where i can do regex on the class to say if it passed or failed
[22-Aug-2008 20:52:53] <daMaestro> anyone have the issue of the DeviceList not working when using VHM?
[22-Aug-2008 20:53:37] <daMaestro> /dmd/Devices/getJSONDeviceInfo?orderby=id&orderdir=asc&offset=0&count=60&ms=........ is returning: [[], 0]
[22-Aug-2008 20:53:41] <daMaestro> but without VHM.. it works
[22-Aug-2008 20:56:00] <daMaestro> when i go directly to the zope port (without mod_proxy) it works
[22-Aug-2008 20:56:03] <daMaestro> bah!
[22-Aug-2008 20:57:01] <daMaestro> RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/server.fqdn.net:443/zport/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P]
[22-Aug-2008 20:57:15] <daMaestro> everything works, but the getJSONDeviceInfo
[22-Aug-2008 21:01:46] <sj7trunks> i love how you initially set it up and it takes like 20 minutes
[22-Aug-2008 21:01:54] <sj7trunks> but after you get the hosts added and want to do more
[22-Aug-2008 21:02:00] <sj7trunks> it's like sheesh headache
[22-Aug-2008 21:06:58] <daMaestro> ah, no need for VHR
[22-Aug-2008 21:07:12] <daMaestro> RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/server.fqdn.net:443/$1 [L,P] does the deed
[22-Aug-2008 21:07:22] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, what are you trying to do
[22-Aug-2008 21:07:27] <daMaestro> sj7trunks, be specific
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:00] <sj7trunks> daMaestro generate a process check and then graph for it
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:43] <sj7trunks> i used snmp extend/exec command in snmpd.conf to poll for the process and it comes back with either OK/Not Found/DOWN
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:51] <sj7trunks> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/generate-an-event-for-unmounted-filesystems/
[22-Aug-2008 21:09:54] <sj7trunks> all i have is that apparently
[22-Aug-2008 21:10:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Generate an event for unmounted filesystems - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
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[23-Aug-2008 19:18:12] <andrea> Hi all
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[23-Aug-2008 19:20:16] <konsa79> can anyone help me with a ticket i've open to trac websiet?
[23-Aug-2008 19:20:46] <konsa79> i open this case for zope dyng when add datasource in template
[23-Aug-2008 19:20:47] <konsa79> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3608
[23-Aug-2008 19:21:19] <konsa79> but how can the trac team debug with you the problem if in ticket you cannot leave your reference?
[23-Aug-2008 19:22:01] <konsa79> and another question, how can i set my sign in zenoss forum?
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[25-Aug-2008 05:25:42] <jeffspeff2> hi all, i'm looking into emplimenting a vpn using openvpn that will be primarily used for zenoss. I'm wondering if i have to use a bridged or routed vpn or if it even matters. thanks
[25-Aug-2008 05:26:27] <zanaga> if your VPN gateway is the zenoss server or the gateway device, routed mode is the best and easiest
[25-Aug-2008 05:26:48] <zanaga> in other cases it's usually better to use bridged mode
[25-Aug-2008 05:29:03] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, my idea was to assign static vpn addresses to the remote systems. the remote systems will only be using the vpn for the purposes of zenoss, as they all have their own servers, etc. on site.
[25-Aug-2008 05:30:55] <jeffspeff2> currently, zenoss is running in a virtual system on the windows server, with bridged ethernet. i thought i could just setup the vpn and zenoss would automatically detect the vpn network and devices.
[25-Aug-2008 05:31:22] <jeffspeff2> if i'm wrong with anything, please tell me as i'm just starting to play with vpn and zenoss.
[25-Aug-2008 05:31:57] <zanaga> well.. it's not quite as simple as that..
[25-Aug-2008 05:32:12] <zanaga> but it is doable...
[25-Aug-2008 05:33:17] <zanaga> you need to set up routes to the remote networks on the zenoss server and manually discover hosts on the other side of the vpn
[25-Aug-2008 05:33:33] <zanaga> zenoss will then think that the whole network is down if the vpn goes down for some reason.
[25-Aug-2008 05:34:23] <zanaga> to set something like that up, i'd use openvpn on the remote gateway device if possible.. otherwise you would have to add a separate route on the gateway to the vpn network
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:13] <jeffspeff2> the remote gateway device is a regular router
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:27] <zanaga> but the easiest way to do that is through routed vpn network.. for bridged network you would have to run multiple openvpn instances on the zenoss server
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:44] <exkev> is there some way to make zenoss always monitor some given service/process even if it's not detected in modeling?
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:46] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: ok, so the only option is to add the route on the gateway device
[25-Aug-2008 05:35:56] <zanaga> yes
[25-Aug-2008 05:36:14] <exkev> I have 800+ systems, and I can't manually look at them and lock them if they're in the state I want
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:23] <zanaga> exkev: hmmm.. so do you want the device to expect that the service is missing?
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:32] <exkev> based on teh device class
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:44] <zanaga> exkev: i don't know if that's possible...
[25-Aug-2008 05:37:50] <exkev> /Server/Linux/TDN should always monitor service tdn-command (custom, port 1180) etc
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:06] <exkev> it's a real deal killer right now
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:14] <exkev> we add on average, one system every 16 hours
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:50] <exkev> 2) the inability to disable alerts for a specific component, not the whole device
[25-Aug-2008 05:38:58] <exkev> 2a) flap detection doesn't exist
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:30] <exkev> er, that's all I can think of right now
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:38] <exkev> zenoss otherwise fits everything we need
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:50] <exkev> I've been using it for almost a year now
[25-Aug-2008 05:39:51] <zanaga> ummh.. so you want to know if the port goes down?
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:03] <exkev> upgrading to 2.2.3 this week (from 2.1.3) was awfully painful
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:11] <exkev> I want to know even if it was never up
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:20] <exkev> it's fine as long as it models it
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:26] <zanaga> yeah.. but the expected state is up?
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:37] <zanaga> that's doable..
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:40] <exkev> but then I don't want it to stop monitoring it when it's down at the next model run
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:53] <exkev> however, it may not be up when I add/model it
[25-Aug-2008 05:40:55] <zanaga> that's still doable
[25-Aug-2008 05:41:01] <exkev> and I want it locked so it won't pull it out next run
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:01] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, i'm confused... you're losing me on the gateway device part.... let me describe it more.... my office network is 192.168.11.0, one of the remote offices is 192.168.1.0.. I want the remote office to still use it's router, etc for regular internet traffice and everything else. I want to have a vpn setup say 192.168.5.0 that is hosted from my network, and each computer at remote office has a vpn ip to that network (computer a
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:01] <jeffspeff2> : 192.168.5.10, comp. b: 192.168.5.11, etc.), but i don't want any other traffic going through the vpn except for zenoss stuff.
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:07] <exkev> oh, 3) event escalation is awful, e.g. 90% = warning, 95% = error, 99% = crit.. just one event plz
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:43] <exkev> zanaga, howso? I'm pretty familiar with the internals and I don't see a way (wrt the monitor even if not modeled)
[25-Aug-2008 05:42:48] <zanaga> exkev: you can tune those if you wish. For us the event escalation works like a charm
[25-Aug-2008 05:43:27] <exkev> I've tried tweaking a transform to have it set the dedupid irrespective of the severity, but that went all wrong too
[25-Aug-2008 05:43:47] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: ahh.. so you plan on running openvpn on all the hosts on the remote network
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:09] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, yes... i want them all to have their own vpn ip.
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:12] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: that should be a great deal easier..
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:37] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, so which should i use, bridged or routed?
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:48] <exkev> jeffspeff, if you have compatible routers between sites, why not just use their native tunneling?
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:52] <exkev> or is router == linux box?
[25-Aug-2008 05:44:57] <zanaga> jeffspeff2: routed
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:20] <jeffspeff2> exkev, router==linksys
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:29] <exkev> hacked wrt?
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:42] <jeffspeff2> nope
[25-Aug-2008 05:45:50] <exkev> if the linksys is not the vpn endpoint...
[25-Aug-2008 05:46:11] <exkev> assuming they are the default gw for the localnet, you need to install routes on them that point foreign net -> somebox
[25-Aug-2008 05:46:41] <exkev> somebox establishes tunnels between sites, and its local routing table has the foreign sites by way of static/connected routes or routing protocol
[25-Aug-2008 05:46:44] <zanaga> exkev: hmm.. looks like the behaviour has changed since last time i looked at the raw ports
[25-Aug-2008 05:47:03] <jeffspeff2> zanaga, thanks
[25-Aug-2008 05:47:41] <exkev> zanaga, sorry I'm spewing multiple things here... to which part do you refer?
[25-Aug-2008 05:47:51] <zanaga> exkev: the port monitoring
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:06] <zanaga> exkev: to see if one of the ports is up
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:14] <exkev> I hate to use a nagios reference, but in its case I'd define services for a host and it'd check them
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:29] <exkev> but of course, nagios is 10x the suck
[25-Aug-2008 05:48:55] <exkev> for things that are snmp instances, I understand modeling is necessary
[25-Aug-2008 05:49:11] <exkev> but for sockets.. that's a lot of fail
[25-Aug-2008 05:49:48] <exkev> I need to dig into zeo db interaction w/ discovery classes and force things, then lock em
[25-Aug-2008 05:50:22] <exkev> (btw, my setup is so overgrown, I've got distributed collection and a massive hub box, and it's still overloaded)
[25-Aug-2008 05:50:43] <zanaga> exkev: or just build your own zenpack that monitors that port with a python script (or the nagios plugin)
[25-Aug-2008 05:50:47] <exkev> but I totally ahve to give props to collecting >50,000 OIDs in 90 seconds
[25-Aug-2008 05:51:08] <zanaga> it's not pretty, but should work
[25-Aug-2008 05:51:10] <exkev> hrm, yeah.. I could call it externally
[25-Aug-2008 05:52:23] <exkev> I think the way I'm leaning is I'm going to need 4 separate monitoring systems: 1) an alert/event correlation system, 2) a system/service monitoring system, 3) network devices/netflow, 4) performance trending
[25-Aug-2008 05:52:44] <exkev> zenoss tries to do them all, but few of them well
[25-Aug-2008 05:53:15] <exkev> ..is there a doc on making zenpacks that include code or modeling routines?
[25-Aug-2008 05:53:25] <zanaga> exkev: you should post your thoughts on the forum or visit back here on thursday.. that way you'll get those problems accross directly to the devs
[25-Aug-2008 05:53:49] <exkev> fyi, I'll have 8000 systems to monitor in the next year
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:11] <exkev> we're growing like wildfire, and 95% of them are all the same kind of node
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:35] <exkev> (custom clustered filesystem we call "triton", already 10 petabytes in size)
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:50] <exkev> see mozy.com
[25-Aug-2008 05:54:52] <zanaga> exkev: i think this is the doc you want: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.0/
[25-Aug-2008 05:55:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[25-Aug-2008 05:55:36] <exkev> "12. Providing DataSource classes" cool thx
[25-Aug-2008 05:57:48] <zanaga> aww.. MozyHome is just the service i need, but it doesn't have a Linux client
[25-Aug-2008 05:58:24] <exkev> maybe next year
[25-Aug-2008 05:58:59] <exkev> the way we work now depends on file alteration monitoring, using native windows or macos spotlight
[25-Aug-2008 05:59:15] <exkev> so we don't have to scan the whole system every day
[25-Aug-2008 05:59:32] <zanaga> ah well.. i'll just set up bacula, assuming i can push down the Storage Daemon from >100Mb of ram in to something like 32Mb
[25-Aug-2008 05:59:57] <exkev> my last place went from amanda -> bacula -> backuppc
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:09] <zanaga> backuppc works on really small systems
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:12] <exkev> backula was > amanda, but backuppc >>>>>> bacula
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:28] <exkev> this was an isp with >100 servers
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:45] <exkev> I couldn't speak to why it was the answer tho
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:48] <zanaga> i've used it in the past. Imho Bacula is a lot better than backuppc
[25-Aug-2008 06:00:51] <exkev> after my departure
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[26-Aug-2008 07:21:19] <knakka> hi
[26-Aug-2008 07:21:47] <knakka> anyone having problems w/ loading RFC1213-MIB in V 2.2.3
[26-Aug-2008 07:22:11] <knakka> mine loads sucessfully, but shows only 4 nodes
[26-Aug-2008 10:37:51] <nemo> anyone here using 2.2.3 + collectors ?
[26-Aug-2008 15:38:18] <daMaestro> is there any way to force 64bit counters to be used for devices?
[26-Aug-2008 15:42:46] <nemo> perf template ?
[26-Aug-2008 15:48:19] <daMaestro> nemo, well.. we have a router that has a few 10GigE (and lots of GigE) ports
[26-Aug-2008 15:48:41] <daMaestro> nemo, we are pushing enough bandwidth via those ports that the 32bit template for interfaces is not able to properly graph
[26-Aug-2008 15:48:41] <nemo> yeh that stuff is tricky.
[26-Aug-2008 15:49:22] <daMaestro> all of our interfaces are GigE+
[26-Aug-2008 15:49:34] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell everything to use the 64bit template, rather then the 32bit one?
[26-Aug-2008 15:53:33] <daMaestro> nemo, lame.
[26-Aug-2008 15:53:56] <nemo> fixed?
[26-Aug-2008 15:54:03] <daMaestro> nemo, it looks like you have to "trick" the device to use the ethernetCsmacd_64 template by renaming the ethernetCsmacd to ethernetCsmacd_32 and ethernetCsmacd_64 to ethernetCsmacd
[26-Aug-2008 15:54:26] <nemo> like i said , tricky
[26-Aug-2008 15:54:36] <nemo> the world should convert to 64bit an get over it
[26-Aug-2008 16:09:54] <daMaestro> nemo, so.. it seems that since it modeled with the 64bit counters.. everything is b0rked
[26-Aug-2008 16:10:10] <daMaestro> nemo, do you know how to tell zenoss to completely re-init the device?
[26-Aug-2008 16:11:14] <nemo> i usually delete and re add
[26-Aug-2008 16:11:27] <nemo> prob is some fancy way tho
[26-Aug-2008 16:41:29] <knakka> hi
[26-Aug-2008 16:42:01] <knakka> anyone having problems load RFC1213-MIB in V 2.2.3?
[26-Aug-2008 16:42:32] <knakka> mine seems to load successfully, but show only 4 nodes
[26-Aug-2008 16:44:04] <knakka> anyone...this has been bothering me for the last few days
[26-Aug-2008 19:01:37] <densone> anyone know the best practice to monitor nfs mounts with zenoss?
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[27-Aug-2008 05:46:34] <webpass> hello all, i have a stupid question:
[27-Aug-2008 05:47:04] <webpass> if i have a space in a device class (or any other organizer for that matter) how can I call it in zendmd?
[27-Aug-2008 05:57:41] <zanaga> you could try devices.getOrganizer('/Server/My Leet Servers')
[27-Aug-2008 05:57:58] <zanaga> in theory it should work
[27-Aug-2008 06:04:08] <webpass> ah, yeah thanks, that seems to be working
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[27-Aug-2008 10:16:39] <shakespear> hi - is someone using host.hrSWRun table with solaris 10 devices?
[27-Aug-2008 10:18:06] <shakespear> currently I am having the issue, that this table sometimes does NOT deliver the correct list of running processes
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[27-Aug-2008 12:33:42] <Han> I have a firewall which is redirecting snmp from a server. How can I make zenoss see firewallip:devicesnmp port as another device?
[27-Aug-2008 12:40:08] <nemo> google on that
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[27-Aug-2008 12:40:25] <nemo> i remember some one asking and it was a code change last time i remember it
[27-Aug-2008 12:58:46] <Han> nemo, I just googled on various things, like "zenoss redirect snmp," before I asked and I got nothing useful.
[27-Aug-2008 13:01:48] <nemo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5514#5514
[27-Aug-2008 13:01:55] <nemo> not 100% sure thats what you mean but ...
[27-Aug-2008 13:02:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Add Device / Default SNMP Port (at community.zenoss.com)
[27-Aug-2008 13:02:31] <nemo> that was google on zenoss alternative snmp port
[27-Aug-2008 13:06:27] <Han> that was not useful. /me goes on searching
[27-Aug-2008 13:06:41] <nemo> are you sure
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:04] <nemo> its a work around to your issue ( change of snmp port ) just its a per device thing
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:29] <nemo> ahhh firewall:snmp
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:37] <nemo> i will be quiet and get on
[27-Aug-2008 13:07:39] <Han> The bug is fixed. You can specify an alternative port and that works fine.
[27-Aug-2008 13:08:41] <Han> It's just that the firewall is also a valid device which requires monitoring by zenoss
[27-Aug-2008 13:29:07] <knakka> hi
[27-Aug-2008 13:29:32] <knakka> anyone having problems w/ loading rfc1213-mib in V 2.2.3?
[27-Aug-2008 13:39:02] <nemo> in the forums i saw it
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[27-Aug-2008 14:14:19] <duncan> hey I've got a node stuck in the DB somewhere, zenping keeps reporting that it fails to ping the device, but when I click on the link to the device I get a blank page.. I have restarted zenping and all of zenoss and it still keeps trying to ping the node
[27-Aug-2008 14:15:28] <duncan> I have since replaced the node and I can verify that it's reachable with ping and I still get ping failures listed in the event console that point to the old deleted node
[27-Aug-2008 14:16:00] <duncan> is there a zope way to search for a stale node name stuck in the db?
[27-Aug-2008 14:16:54] <nemo> zport/manage
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:01] <nemo> is your interface to the db
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:14] <nemo> after that, not sure what you can do about it
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:36] <nemo> when i have seen this type of thing solved , it normally involves someone breaking in a zendmd on the shell
[27-Aug-2008 14:17:52] <nemo> and "fixing" some stuff , followed by a commit()
[27-Aug-2008 14:18:13] <nemo> this makes me a little unkeen on zenoss tbh
[27-Aug-2008 14:18:24] <nemo> way to much stuff i dont understand on the back end
[27-Aug-2008 14:21:03] <duncan> yea I was hoping there was a guru around because I'm lost when it comes to their CLI
[27-Aug-2008 14:22:52] <DaveTo1> I've messed with it a bit, but I'm no guru
[27-Aug-2008 14:23:48] <nemo> its taking me a long time to get into python
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:05] <DaveTo1> same here
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:31] <nemo> but some of the fixes from upgrades involve a processs like: go into zport/manage/ , drill down to this key, replace some algebra, for some other algebra
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:44] <DaveTo1> I have created a few scripts by copying the top of zendmd
[27-Aug-2008 14:24:48] <nemo> my bosses dont love tech like i do, they just ask wtf isnt it working ..
[27-Aug-2008 14:25:24] <nemo> i have recommended a dedicated zenoss admin for 3000 devices, full time guy
[27-Aug-2008 14:25:38] <nemo> because i think to run it properly its needed
[27-Aug-2008 14:26:19] <DaveTo1> That's probably the case for any reasonably complete monitoring product
[27-Aug-2008 14:26:44] <DaveTo1> I'm a bit frustrated with Zenoss 2.2.x
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:14] <DaveTo1> I have ..
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:16] <nemo> i dont like having to cry to zenoss with every weird stack trace
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:23] <DaveTo1> hmm, this system has 1244 devices
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:31] <nemo> i know something about these things, but zenoss leaves me feeling like a n00b sometimes
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:41] <DaveTo1> and the way they use zenhub now, it's a big bottleneck
[27-Aug-2008 14:27:58] <nemo> yeh i guess you can add another hub/collector tho
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:03] <DaveTo1> I've had to figure out how to run a second instance of the zenhub daemon, on different ports, for discovery and adding new devices
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:06] <DaveTo1> that's what I've done
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:09] <nemo> 2.2.x architecture is better than 2.1.x
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:25] <nemo> important to note, its all single threaded
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:29] <DaveTo1> I need to script that so I don't have to do it by hand on all eight or so of my zenoss systems
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:33] <nemo> start more daemons for more cores
[27-Aug-2008 14:28:59] <DaveTo1> there was a period where some stuff used zenhub and some didn't;
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:00] <nemo> yeh me too DaveTo1 , taking me sometime but i got quite a select of scripts and stuff now
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:06] <DaveTo1> now that everything is, that's easier to do again.
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:22] <DaveTo1> I
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:23] <DaveTo1> 'd
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:25] <nemo> yeh status monitor and perf monitor are now one thing -- collector
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:39] <DaveTo1> I'd like to see them work on integrating RRDTool 1.3
[27-Aug-2008 14:29:56] <DaveTo1> big performance gains with the new memory tricks
[27-Aug-2008 14:30:07] <DaveTo1> no readahead, etc
[27-Aug-2008 14:30:09] <teletype> is there any way to have the status of zencommand checks show up on a device's status page, when they are not in an error condition? am i missing something obvious?
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:17] <DaveTo1> As in having a green dot Status icon, like for ipService, FileSystem, etc?
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:19] <DaveTo1> Good question
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:23] <teletype> yeah
[27-Aug-2008 14:31:40] <teletype> it would be more reassuring to people
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:09] <nemo> most people *think* their zenoss is running ok
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:12] <DaveTo1> I'd look at the template for the device overview page and see how that part of the window is built
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[27-Aug-2008 14:32:16] <nemo> they just dont know how to tail logs \
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:21] <DaveToo> heh
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:26] <nemo> btw i recommend multitail
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:32] <teletype> yeah, i am, Dave. learning python in the process heh
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:34] <nemo> i have a zenatch script
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:41] <nemo> for watching the most important logs to me
[27-Aug-2008 14:32:59] <DaveToo> I'd like to get back to integrating syslog input
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:08] <DaveToo> but it's easy to create such an alert storm
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:15] <nemo> syslog i have done
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:16] <nemo> works well
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:18] <DaveToo> what I was doing was pre-filtering with syslog-ng
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:30] <DaveToo> it takes a lot of work, IMO, to filter out the noise
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:32] <nemo> i trawsnform things away i dont want
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:35] <nemo> quite yes
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:48] <nemo> not enough automation , too much fiddling everyday
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:48] <DaveToo> I think it's easier to do that in syslog-ng first
[27-Aug-2008 14:33:54] <nemo> still dont have good perf stats
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:06] <nemo> if i adjust something , it normally breaks graphs etc
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:16] <nemo> i shudder to bind templates ;/
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:25] <DaveToo> actually there is some FM going on with the reporting that I don't like
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:33] <nemo> FM ?
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:38] <DaveToo> Fscking Magic
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:40] <teletype> f'ing magic
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:42] <nemo>
[27-Aug-2008 14:34:49] <teletype> highly technical term.
[27-Aug-2008 14:35:48] <DaveToo> Sometimes what you see for a graph definition is not actually what's being built; you can copy the default graph def and paste it back into a custom graph def verbatim, and it won't work because you don't have the magic substitutions that are going on
[27-Aug-2008 14:36:03] <DaveToo> to iterate over devices/interfaces/etc.
[27-Aug-2008 14:36:23] <DaveToo> Before they garbled the URLs that was easier to troubleshoot
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:09] <DaveToo> but as part of I18N (I guess) there is encoding that hides the actual rrdgraph command
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:17] <DaveToo> used to be able to look in the logs
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:33] <DaveToo> so now you have to find it in the templates
[27-Aug-2008 14:37:40] <DaveToo> I still don't quite understand TALES,etc.
[27-Aug-2008 14:38:43] <DaveToo> I need to learn how to develop for zope 2, essentially
[27-Aug-2008 14:39:43] <nemo> thats not your job as an app administrator
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:00] <nemo> i admit some knowledge of the tech it uses is handy
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:24] <nemo> but it smells like JIRA and Confluence to me, where you pretty much start reading the source code to find out whats wrojng
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:32] <nemo> i dont need another app like that
[27-Aug-2008 14:40:56] <DaveToo> I haven't seen JIRA or Confluence but yes,
[27-Aug-2008 14:41:10] <DaveToo> I've had to spend a lot of time in the source code
[27-Aug-2008 14:41:24] <teletype> i prefer that to a black box where you have little to no means of doing your own debugging
[27-Aug-2008 14:41:58] <nemo> well i use enterprise
[27-Aug-2008 14:42:19] <nemo> i consider it a piss take to use enterprise and read code
[27-Aug-2008 14:42:30] <teletype> well yeah
[27-Aug-2008 14:42:43] <DaveToo> I wish I could get our folks to buy at least a small Enterprise license
[27-Aug-2008 14:43:19] <nemo> honestly, every zenoss person ive dealt with is fine, etc
[27-Aug-2008 14:43:19] <DaveToo> get the full experience
[27-Aug-2008 14:43:30] <nemo> id just prefer the product fell over less
[27-Aug-2008 14:44:16] <DaveToo> I need alert filtering
[27-Aug-2008 14:44:37] <DaveToo> summarization
[27-Aug-2008 14:44:59] <DaveToo> for big sets of alerts that the layer 3 topology can't take care of,
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:14] <nemo> i need to fix my topology
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:17] <DaveToo> need to send summary alerts
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:25] <nemo> network guys dont want snmp on routers so no topology
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:31] <DaveToo> snuh?
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:42] <DaveToo> how the heck do they watch the traffic?
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:57] <nemo> hmm they do, they just dont want me / zenoss to
[27-Aug-2008 14:45:58] <DaveToo> erm, well, maybe netflow
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:00] <nemo> politics
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:07] <nemo> will get sorted one day or another
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:41] <DaveToo> I am pretty dissapointed that "zendisc --routers" has been b0rked.
[27-Aug-2008 14:46:44] <DaveToo> I relied upon it.
[27-Aug-2008 14:54:43] <DaveToo> When did these performance graphs for the monitors/collectors show up?
[27-Aug-2008 15:31:59] <Nate187> when using a command in a datasource for an interface, how can i pass the mac address and ip address as arguements?
[27-Aug-2008 15:33:29] <DaveToo> Something like ${device/manageIp}
[27-Aug-2008 15:33:52] <DaveToo> the admin guide has a table of available variables
[27-Aug-2008 15:34:09] <DaveToo> search for "TALES Device Attributes"
[27-Aug-2008 15:34:28] <DaveToo> I don't necessarily know yet when to use "device" vs "here"
[27-Aug-2008 15:35:57] <Nate187> I think i want 'here' to fetch info from the interface properties instead of the device properties
[27-Aug-2008 15:36:38] <Nate187> but i don't see anything that looks like ipaddress or macaddress in those attributes
[27-Aug-2008 15:39:17] <DaveToo> This is where I've had to spend time rooting around in the code
[27-Aug-2008 15:39:32] <DaveToo> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/browser/trunk/Products/ZenModel/IpInterface.py
[27-Aug-2008 15:39:54] <DaveToo> look at _properties and _relations
[27-Aug-2008 15:40:04] <DaveToo> 'macaddress' is a simple scalar property
[27-Aug-2008 15:40:24] <DaveToo> but 'ipaddresses' is a one-to-many relation
[27-Aug-2008 15:43:58] <DaveToo> I also use zendmd to figure this stuff out
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:12] <DaveToo> d = find('j4-2labrtr.lab.example.com)
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:27] <DaveToo> >>> i = d.os.interfaces()[0]
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> >>> i.macaddress
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> '00:00:15:00:00:00'
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> >>> i.ips
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:35] <DaveToo> ['127.0.0.51/8']
[27-Aug-2008 15:44:56] <DaveToo> The ZMI (Zope Management Interface) is also helpful
[27-Aug-2008 15:45:12] <DaveToo> just append /manage after your URL (if you're logged in as a Manager)
[27-Aug-2008 15:53:09] <Nate187> I think I want to pass the mtu and ifindex to the script but $mtu ${mtu} ${here/mtu} ${device/mtu} all return a key error
[27-Aug-2008 15:55:09] <DaveToo> Nate this is where some indexing magic comes in, I think.
[27-Aug-2008 15:55:47] <DaveToo> I don't know if/how you can use zencommand for indexed items
[27-Aug-2008 16:06:59] <DaveToo> It used to be easier to debug this stuff by looking in the logs
[27-Aug-2008 16:07:11] <DaveToo> but the URLs are garbled now due to some I18N stuff
[27-Aug-2008 16:10:27] <ZUsr> Hello
[27-Aug-2008 16:11:15] <ZUsr> Can anyone please helpme on how to access Zenoss Webinterface via another system(not the one on which zenoss is installed) on the network
[27-Aug-2008 16:46:03] <Firestar> ZUsr, http://<ip of your Zenoss box>:8080
[27-Aug-2008 16:51:40] <daMaestro> is there any way to get the graphs to render every minute for data?
[27-Aug-2008 16:52:08] * daMaestro has reduced the poll time to 60 seconds for snmp, but the graphs still show 5m renders
[27-Aug-2008 17:11:51] near_ is now known as near
[27-Aug-2008 17:16:22] <daMaestro> anyone know where to start diagnosing "temporary disabling (Bad Gateway) digest from my.squid.next.to.me.org
[27-Aug-2008 17:16:27] <daMaestro> "?
[27-Aug-2008 17:17:02] <ZUsr> i tried to access Zenoss over the port 8080 but can't access it from any other system other than the one on which zenoss is installed
[27-Aug-2008 17:19:56] <Firestar> ZUsr, maybe iptables is blocking outside access? Try flushing iptables.
[27-Aug-2008 17:20:45] <daMaestro> gah
[27-Aug-2008 17:20:48] <daMaestro> wrong channel, sorry
[27-Aug-2008 17:36:38] <ZUsr> i have restarted iptables
[27-Aug-2008 17:37:01] <ZUsr> by adding the ACCEPT rule for port 8080
[27-Aug-2008 17:37:08] <ZUsr> but it still doen't work
[27-Aug-2008 17:41:08] <Firestar> do an iptables -F to flush them, and then try
[27-Aug-2008 17:41:33] <Firestar> don't restart after flushing, or your previous rules will go back
[27-Aug-2008 17:52:35] <ZUsr> i flused the iptables but still can view the Zenoss webinterface
[27-Aug-2008 17:53:30] <ZUsr> i even tried disabling the firewall but could not access the Zenoss web interface
[27-Aug-2008 17:54:15] <ZUsr> I have installed Zenoss on Centos 5.0
[27-Aug-2008 17:54:45] <ZUsr> when i just give the http://ip_address.
[27-Aug-2008 17:54:57] <ZUsr> it gives me the apache welcome page
[27-Aug-2008 17:55:44] <ZUsr> but when i give the http://ip_address:8080 it says that page can not be displayed
[27-Aug-2008 17:58:01] <Nate187> is zen running?
[27-Aug-2008 18:00:25] <ZUsr> yes
[27-Aug-2008 18:00:57] <zanaga> does lsof -i :8080 show anything?
[27-Aug-2008 18:07:25] <Nate187> How do I reference interface properties in a data source command?
[27-Aug-2008 18:07:43] <Nate187> I thought it would be something like ${here/ifindex}, but it returns a key error
[27-Aug-2008 18:18:39] <ZUsr> yes lsof -i :8080 gives me 5 entries
[27-Aug-2008 18:25:31] <Firestar> ZUsr, is there a firewall between the computer you're trying to access from, and the server that has Zenoss running on it?
[27-Aug-2008 18:31:02] <thrope> hello - I am thinking of setting up zenoss, but I'm not sure the best way. we have a number of sites - each has a main gateway server that has a public interface and an internal interface. we also have a vpn linking all these sites so we can access them by the internal ip addresses (although obviously the vpn traffic comes through the external interface)... would it be better to monitor on the internal interface through the vpn and just check
[27-Aug-2008 18:32:54] <ZUsr> yes i guess there is a network firewall... how would i check that
[27-Aug-2008 18:36:01] <Firestar> ZUsr, talk to your network admin?
[27-Aug-2008 18:40:19] <ZUsr> ok thanks
[27-Aug-2008 18:40:22] <ZUsr> for the help
[27-Aug-2008 19:13:44] <zanaga> AHHA! got a bunch of errors out of my database
[27-Aug-2008 19:14:12] <zanaga> lets see if i can get the rest of them too =)
[27-Aug-2008 19:46:35] <daMaestro> yea, so does anyone know if there is a way to have graphs render for every minute of data
[27-Aug-2008 19:46:37] <daMaestro> ?
[27-Aug-2008 19:52:42] <daMaestro> it seems i need to change the resolution for the existing rrd dbs
[27-Aug-2008 20:53:12] <nick_v> Anyone else having odd UI issues with the Event Console. Scrolling will often seem to cause the console to blank out or jump around. (Firefox 2 and Firefox 3)
[27-Aug-2008 21:20:03] <daMaestro> nick_v, it's firefox
[27-Aug-2008 21:20:09] <daMaestro> nick_v, disable smooth scrolling
[27-Aug-2008 21:24:30] <nick_v> Already diabled.
[27-Aug-2008 21:24:34] <nick_v> disabled.
[27-Aug-2008 21:25:22] <nick_v> It tends to happen when I have 80+ events in the console.
[27-Aug-2008 21:25:31] <nick_v> When I just have 30 or so it is not a problem
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[28-Aug-2008 10:22:38] <ToM-> Where does the value come from on the filesystem minmax treshold?
[28-Aug-2008 10:24:21] <ToM-> is it the free space left?
[28-Aug-2008 10:32:13] <ToM-> Just trying to figure out how to make the value more human readable
[28-Aug-2008 10:41:43] <nemo> perf templates
[28-Aug-2008 10:45:24] <ToM-> hmmmh well those aren't any good on formating the text that comes to MinMax..
[28-Aug-2008 10:46:25] <nemo> i transform it and make my own evt.summary=""
[28-Aug-2008 13:34:38] <jb> hi
[28-Aug-2008 13:34:40] <jb>
[28-Aug-2008 14:34:21] <rbw> hello!
[28-Aug-2008 15:01:07] <mrayzenoss> Good morning.
[28-Aug-2008 15:01:19] <jb> hey matt
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:00] <mrayzenoss> jplouis and I are ready for questions, other Zenossians are lurking
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:15] <jb> oh, I forgot the devs are here today..
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:32] <jplouis> just one
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:41] <jb> im guessing there was no progress on the whole RRD gaps/zenperfsnmp problems..
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:41] <mrayzenoss> so far
[28-Aug-2008 15:03:50] <jb> so hopefully when I transition to enterprise this problem will go away..
[28-Aug-2008 15:04:00] <mrayzenoss> well, the same people will be working on them
[28-Aug-2008 15:04:08] <mrayzenoss> Chet and EAD were on that
[28-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <jb> speaking of the devil
[28-Aug-2008 15:05:33] <mrayzenoss> Hey Chet, jb was just asking about http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3536
[28-Aug-2008 15:05:52] <cluther> wait.. I wasn't the devil, was I?
[28-Aug-2008 15:06:02] <jb>
[28-Aug-2008 15:11:20] <mrayzenoss> any questions?
[28-Aug-2008 15:11:24] <mrayzenoss> seems pretty quiet today
[28-Aug-2008 15:11:26] <kgoedtel> I have systems being shown in reports when using systems organizer in which they no longer exist in the organizer the particular report is using.
[28-Aug-2008 15:12:13] <teletype> mrayze: is there any way i can have the status of zencommand based checks be shown in the device status screen when they are not in error condition? we would like the reassuring green pill
[28-Aug-2008 15:12:23] <kgoedtel> The device was removed from one organizer and placed in another, but it still is 'residually' reporting for the previous organizers
[28-Aug-2008 15:12:46] <kgoedtel> this is 2.2.3
[28-Aug-2008 15:15:00] <Guyverix> I have been seeing strange errors in zenactions that seem to cause it to time out quite often when I have email rules set with counts.. Ver 2.2.3 x64
[28-Aug-2008 15:15:26] <jplouis> kgoedtel: can you open a ticket with steps to reproduce?
[28-Aug-2008 15:16:09] <kgoedtel> I haven't been able to reproduce at will unfortunately
[28-Aug-2008 15:16:59] <kgoedtel> i've viewed the organizer via zope manage to make sure i wasn't insane
[28-Aug-2008 15:17:01] <mrayzenoss> teletype: The individual device will show "green" on the device page, but you want it on the dashboard?
[28-Aug-2008 15:17:34] <teletype> nope, on the device page status tab. zencommand based checks are only showing up in the status display if they are in an error state.
[28-Aug-2008 15:18:17] <mrayzenoss> teletype: that sounds like a real bug, why don't you open a ticket
[28-Aug-2008 15:18:38] <jplouis> kgoedtel: any steps and which reports would be helpful to track it down.
[28-Aug-2008 15:18:48] <teletype> ah, really? so i'm not crazy then. will do, thanks
[28-Aug-2008 15:19:09] <kgoedtel> basically all i did was remove a device from one organizer under systems to another
[28-Aug-2008 15:19:30] <kgoedtel> i can provide screenshots
[28-Aug-2008 15:19:43] <kgoedtel> which would probably illustrate the problem best
[28-Aug-2008 15:20:09] <mrayzenoss> teletype: we'll verify the ticket. You're just running zencommand and nothing else, and it stays grey?
[28-Aug-2008 15:20:30] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: didn't you have a forum thread for that?
[28-Aug-2008 15:20:44] <Guyverix> actually I opened a bug.
[28-Aug-2008 15:21:01] <Guyverix> was kinda curious if it was me, or a real bug
[28-Aug-2008 15:21:28] <teletype> i'm trying to use some custom nagios scripts via zencommand over ssh. the check works correctly, but if i look at the device status page, it does not show up at all. if i cause the script to return an error state, then the component is listed with the appropriate color pill under 'Other' category
[28-Aug-2008 15:21:52] <teletype> if i then cause the script to return an OK status, the component will no longer be listed
[28-Aug-2008 15:23:04] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: ticket #?
[28-Aug-2008 15:23:21] <Guyverix> let me dbl check
[28-Aug-2008 15:24:21] <jplouis> kgoedtel: screenshots and the report being run would be helpful
[28-Aug-2008 15:24:48] <malbon> lo matt el al.
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:10] <cluther> kgoedtel: This organizer/reporting behavior is expected. The organizers that an event is associated with are set at event time, not reporting time. So if an event is created for a device when it is in the /Mail system, then the device gets moved to the /Database system the event will remain a /Mail event.
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:23] <malbon> are there any examples of using SnmpPlugin.deviceProperties
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:25] <malbon> ?
[28-Aug-2008 15:25:44] <cluther> malbon: $ZENHOME/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/HRFileSystemMap.py
[28-Aug-2008 15:26:22] <Guyverix> bug 3593
[28-Aug-2008 15:26:28] <jb> hrmf
[28-Aug-2008 15:26:37] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: I just found it
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:29] <kgoedtel> this report is a performance report
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:30] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: and zenactions hangs and that's the last thing in the log?
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:36] <kgoedtel> not an event report
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:37] <Guyverix> yes
[28-Aug-2008 15:27:42] <malbon> cluther: thanks.
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:08] <Guyverix> when I restart it, it says that it finished the action after usually over 1000 seconds
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:09] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: I'll raise the priority, that doesn't sound like a medium bug
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:31] <cluther> kgoedtel: Which report(s)?
[28-Aug-2008 15:28:44] <Guyverix> ok, I pasted in what I think is the sql command being used, but I dont know if the h. is a place holder or not
[28-Aug-2008 15:29:30] <kgoedtel> a custom one i created in multi-graph
[28-Aug-2008 15:30:07] <cluther> kgoedtel: ah.. ok.
[28-Aug-2008 15:30:13] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: that ticket will get looked at, it looks like a good candidate to get fixed for 2.3
[28-Aug-2008 15:31:24] <kgoedtel> i am getting some screen, have em in a bit
[28-Aug-2008 15:31:38] <Guyverix> cool!
[28-Aug-2008 15:31:59] <Guyverix> BTW, is there anything in the works to integrate Zenoss into external ticketing systems?
[28-Aug-2008 15:32:29] <mrayzenoss> Guyverix: Enterprise has a Remedy plugin
[28-Aug-2008 15:32:32] <malbon> Guyverix: I have done this using email and our ticketing system.
[28-Aug-2008 15:32:53] <mrayzenoss> There is an AlarmPoint ZenPack coming someday
[28-Aug-2008 15:33:17] <Guyverix> Ahh, OK.. So Remedy, via enterprise, and RT or the like via email..
[28-Aug-2008 15:33:38] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I'd like a good RT howto
[28-Aug-2008 15:33:54] <Guyverix> does the enterprise one for Remedy show the ticket that is associated with the device?
[28-Aug-2008 15:34:12] <mrayzenoss> I don't know the specifics, cluther?
[28-Aug-2008 15:34:14] <Guyverix> inside Zenoss itself, I mena
[28-Aug-2008 15:34:47] <cluther> Guyverix: Nope.. just Zenoss details in Remedy.
[28-Aug-2008 15:35:02] <Guyverix> hmm, ok
[28-Aug-2008 15:35:25] <cluther> kgoedtel: I can definitely reproduce that in the multi-graph reports.
[28-Aug-2008 15:35:37] <malbon> one thing about integrating them is that the zenpop doesn't have a mechanism to redirect to 'default' device for sorting out returns from the ticketing system of choice.
[28-Aug-2008 15:36:36] <zanaga> is it possible to customize the link that comes with the email alert. It would work better for us if the url pointed to the IP of the host
[28-Aug-2008 15:37:09] <Guyverix> ${here\manageIp} ?
[28-Aug-2008 15:37:31] <kgoedtel> oh great!
[28-Aug-2008 15:38:49] <malbon> cluther: I tried the getattr, however I cannot get a valid return for zDeviceTemplates, any ideas?
[28-Aug-2008 15:38:50] <zanaga> i mean the link that is in the e-mail.. usually it's something like http://hostname-of-zenoss:8080/.... we can't use the DNS to locate the server for various reasons so it would be more useful if the link was http://10.0.0.2:8080/...
[28-Aug-2008 15:39:32] <cluther> malbon: You extended the deviceProperties with zDeviceTemplates at the top of your collector plugin too?
[28-Aug-2008 15:39:51] <malbon> cluther: yes, I tried that.
[28-Aug-2008 15:39:57] <cluther> zanaga: Add a zopeurl entry to your $ZENHOME/etc/zenactions.conf
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:08] <cluther> andyhold: zopeurl http://10.0.0.2:8080
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:17] <cluther> oops.. zanaga, not andyhold.
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:29] <zanaga> ah.. doing that right now
[28-Aug-2008 15:40:54] <cluther> malbon: So your getattr is always coming back with ""?
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:03] <cluther> zanaga: Restart zenactions when done.
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:13] <malbon> cluther: None is what is printed on my debug line
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:20] <malbon> cluther: http://pastebin.ca/1187481
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1187481 (at pastebin.ca)
[28-Aug-2008 15:41:55] <malbon> cluther: a dir on device, and str of deviceProperties
[28-Aug-2008 15:43:22] <zanaga> curses, i still have some HelloWorld objects haunting my installation..
[28-Aug-2008 15:44:52] <malbon> cluther: no rush on it, ping me back later today or tomorrow
[28-Aug-2008 15:46:16] <mrayzenoss> malbon: How has JMX been working for you in 2.2.3?
[28-Aug-2008 15:47:16] <malbon> mrayzenoss: Haydn has been doing most of the testing. I think the attributes have been working ok.
[28-Aug-2008 15:47:24] <cluther> malbon: Yeah.. I have your mail on it. I know I've tested this due to a previous thread we've had.
[28-Aug-2008 15:47:57] <mrayzenoss> malbon: well jplouis has been doing most of that work, so here's your chance to complain
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:09] <malbon> mrayzenoss: there is the issue of the methods not returning the right values, well values at all.
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:42] <malbon> cluther: yes, I would like to get this sorted but it'd probably be better to take it off-line. I am trying Haydn's hack to fix my itch.
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:49] <jplouis> for jmx operations or for attribute calls?
[28-Aug-2008 15:48:59] <malbon> jplouis: operations
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:12] <jplouis> with or without parameters?
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:23] <malbon> jplouis: I belive that attribute collection and graphing is working.
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:34] <malbon> from my understanding with parameters
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:47] <jplouis> malbon: hold on...
[28-Aug-2008 15:49:49] <malbon> sadly he isn't here to ask.
[28-Aug-2008 15:50:55] <malbon> cluther: do you want an egg or zipfile of my code?
[28-Aug-2008 15:51:47] <jplouis> malbon: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3573
[28-Aug-2008 15:52:36] <cluther> malbon: zip is good
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:04] <cluther> kgoedtel: Looks like there's a catalog indexing problem.
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:30] <cluther> kgoedtel: For the time being, do a dmd.Devices.reIndex() in zendmd, then a commit()
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:34] <malbon> so 2.2.4 is going to drop soon?
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:36] <cluther> kgoedtel: This will fix the existing reports.
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:44] <mrayzenoss> malbon: Yeah, 2.2.4 is in QA right now
[28-Aug-2008 15:53:44] <zanaga> cluther: great.. zopeurl does exactly what i wanted. Thanks
[28-Aug-2008 15:57:07] <malbon> mrayzenoss: cool, I'll look forward to the upgrade fun
[28-Aug-2008 15:57:38] <malbon> jplouis: have you scaled this to many hosts?
[28-Aug-2008 15:57:41] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 should be in beta next month and is slated for October
[28-Aug-2008 15:58:25] <jplouis> 2.3 has some enhancements to deal with a lot of hosts
[28-Aug-2008 15:58:31] <malbon> sounds good. what leet features does it include?
[28-Aug-2008 15:58:50] <kgoedtel> cluther: worked like a charm!
[28-Aug-2008 15:59:06] <jplouis> malbon: I meant jmx has some features for more hosts
[28-Aug-2008 15:59:10] <malbon> I must admit we suffer from slowdowns especially on high zeneventlog insertion rates, also on models with software inventories.
[28-Aug-2008 15:59:57] <jplouis> malbon: the number of connections to the jmx servers should be greatly reduced, mainly one connection per collection cycle
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:21] <malbon> jplouis: yeah good. We will have it on over 70 servers soon so it'll get a good testing.
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:41] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 will have JP's JMX improvements, WMI improvements (Vista & Server 2008) and more VMware stuff
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:46] <jplouis> malbon: zenjmx in 2.3 will also be better about sending events on error conditions (bad mbean name etc..)
[28-Aug-2008 16:00:58] <malbon> jplouis: cool, that's actually useful.
[28-Aug-2008 16:01:05] <malbon> jplouis: a modeller framework?
[28-Aug-2008 16:01:35] <jplouis> malbon: no, not this go around
[28-Aug-2008 16:01:48] <malbon> jplouis: shame, I was hoping.
[28-Aug-2008 16:02:12] <malbon> jplouis: talking of this let me know when you get to that stage, I'd be interested in jython integration for modelling.
[28-Aug-2008 16:02:36] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 is more about stabilizing and improving what we have, more features will come around in the next release
[28-Aug-2008 16:03:18] <malbon> yeah, that's good, there has been some good work done in the 2.2 series to that goal too.
[28-Aug-2008 16:04:29] <mrayzenoss> JP and I are going to take off pretty soon, thanks for everyone's questions. The log will be up soon and we'll have another session scheduled for 2 weeks.
[28-Aug-2008 16:04:36] <jplouis> malbon: if you have a test system you can use the trunk version of zenjmx for load testing.
[28-Aug-2008 16:05:08] <malbon> jplouis: I think haydn is doing that on his test system, so I'll check on where he is.
[28-Aug-2008 16:05:41] <mrayzenoss> And thanks to cluther for answering all the questions for us
[28-Aug-2008 16:05:51] <jplouis> malbon: ok, the newest zenjmx is somewhat different... it actually is a python daemon and an small java rpc server
[28-Aug-2008 16:06:16] <jplouis> bye
[28-Aug-2008 16:06:19] <malbon> jplouis: ok, nice.
[28-Aug-2008 16:06:49] <malbon> thanks zenoss folks.
[28-Aug-2008 16:07:52] <mrayzenoss> later
[28-Aug-2008 16:08:47] <nemo> damn i missed the big convo
[28-Aug-2008 16:21:43] <cluther> malbon: Bad news.. your plugin works perfectly for me.
[28-Aug-2008 16:22:00] <malbon> cluther: damnit.
[28-Aug-2008 16:22:50] <malbon> cluther: so we have a problem with our installation.
[28-Aug-2008 16:23:31] <malbon> cluther: was that on core 2.2.3?
[28-Aug-2008 16:23:58] <cluther> malbon: I've only tried it on trunk, but I don't think there are any relevant changes since 2.2.3.
[28-Aug-2008 16:24:09] <cluther> One thing I see is the indentation is weird.
[28-Aug-2008 16:24:45] <cluther> malbon: Maybe you have some tabs mixed in with your spaces?
[28-Aug-2008 16:27:04] <malbon> cluther: yes I'll tab nanny it
[28-Aug-2008 16:27:39] <malbon> cluther: thanks for taking a look, I'll clean it up tomorrow and maybe ping you if it is still not working.
[28-Aug-2008 16:28:29] <malbon> cluther: gotta dash, thanks for the help.
[28-Aug-2008 16:29:50] <Guyverix> BTW, where was Simon today?
[28-Aug-2008 16:31:29] <shaskell> Hi guys... question about zenoss processes... Should the .py processes (zenwin, zenwinmodeler, zenevent) have more than 2 running processes (1 proc, 1 watchdog) in the process table, at any given time?
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:00] <shaskell> I've written my own watchdog script to clean things up and this is what I've been logging...
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> Thu Aug 28 09:00:01 EDT 2008
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> killing zeneventlog.py - 10593
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> killing zeneventlog.py - 13747
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:27] <shaskell> killing zeneventlog.py - 13748
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:35] <shaskell> Thu Aug 28 09:15:01 EDT 2008
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:35] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 10550
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:35] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 13704
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:36] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 18830
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:38] <shaskell> killing zenwin.py - 18831
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:40] <shaskell> ...
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:42] <shaskell> ...
[28-Aug-2008 16:32:58] <shaskell> zeneventlog and zenwin have processes hanging around
[28-Aug-2008 16:33:19] <shaskell> zenwinmodeler had a ton of defunct processes the other day and it left zenoss in a bad way
[28-Aug-2008 16:34:12] <Nate187> Is there any way to reference the interface properties (ifindex, macaddress, etc) in a data source command template in order to pass them as arguements to a script?
[28-Aug-2008 17:27:28] <cciewu> how come my command is not being run when it is in the proper template/device?
[28-Aug-2008 17:30:34] <Nate187> did you try remodeling the device?
[28-Aug-2008 17:36:05] <cciewu> no not necessary
[28-Aug-2008 17:36:20] <cciewu> i have the command in the template
[28-Aug-2008 17:41:45] <Nate187> I've been manually adding interfaces to a device, and I've noticed they won't start collecting until i remodel it
[28-Aug-2008 17:43:18] <teletype> harvey?
[28-Aug-2008 19:49:46] <sj7trunks> mmm
[28-Aug-2008 19:49:58] <sj7trunks> do the zen developers make an appearence today?
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:13] <teletype> they did this morning
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:17] <sj7trunks> heh
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:18] <sj7trunks> just my luck
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:23] <sj7trunks> are they on eastern time or what
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:42] <teletype> guessing so given the topic
[28-Aug-2008 19:50:49] <sj7trunks> lol
[28-Aug-2008 19:51:31] <sj7trunks> what you up to teletype?
[28-Aug-2008 19:53:10] <teletype> working
[28-Aug-2008 19:53:42] <sj7trunks> aren't we all
[28-Aug-2008 19:57:32] <jb> yeah they are EST
[28-Aug-2008 20:09:08] <sj7trunks> is there a way to add status indicators to list monitored services?
[28-Aug-2008 20:45:44] <W8_4Sleep> is there a way to "rescan" a device in order to discover new interfaces that are up?
[28-Aug-2008 20:45:50] <W8_4Sleep> (cisco router with vlans)
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:02] <W8_4Sleep> or subinterfaces, rather
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:18] <teletype> remodel it
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:40] <W8_4Sleep> aha
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:49] <W8_4Sleep> so remodeling = rescan?
[28-Aug-2008 20:46:59] <W8_4Sleep> ...it certaintly appears so
[28-Aug-2008 20:47:04] <teletype> yup, it will do the same discovery as when y ou add it initially
[28-Aug-2008 20:47:27] <W8_4Sleep> nice, I thought remodeling was something like creating a 'template' for similar devices
[28-Aug-2008 20:47:55] <teletype> nope. redoes the initial scan using the device's current template. also useful if you have bound additional templates to the device
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:15] <W8_4Sleep> yeah, i can see that now - works like a charm
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:29] <W8_4Sleep> thanks =)
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:32] <teletype> np
[28-Aug-2008 20:48:51] <rbw> Hello!
[28-Aug-2008 20:49:24] <teletype> and with that, time to go home
[28-Aug-2008 20:49:25] * teletype &
[28-Aug-2008 20:58:01] <rbw> can a collector be used to send data to a zenoss master server? I'd like to place a Zenoss server inside a customers network, is it possible to make it report its data collected from servers inside this network to the Zenoss master server?
[28-Aug-2008 21:13:15] <cbleach> I have a question about event transformations.
[28-Aug-2008 21:14:52] <cbleach> I use check_http to monitor the health of an application, but if the server is down I don't want to recieve an alert about the application.
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:05] <cbleach> so I added
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:20] <cbleach> if device.pingStatus() >0:
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:34] <cbleach> evt.eventstate = 2
[28-Aug-2008 21:15:47] <cbleach> to the tranformation for that applicaiton check event class
[28-Aug-2008 21:17:16] <cbleach> if the applicaiton check fails before the server is detected as being down, will that transformation be applied the next time the application check fails?
[28-Aug-2008 21:18:10] <cbleach> I guess my question is if the transformations are executed only when the event first appears (count = 1)?
[28-Aug-2008 21:27:22] <cbleach> or are they executed every time an event occurs (count = 2 for example)?
[28-Aug-2008 22:41:21] <cluther> cbleach: If you're still paying attention.. they are only executed the first time. Additional events will hop onto the first using the deduplication logic.
[28-Aug-2008 22:42:01] <cluther> cbleach: The only fields that can ever be updated on existing events are summary, count and lastTime.
[28-Aug-2008 23:28:00] <brian_nz_sun> good day/evening all
[28-Aug-2008 23:30:07] <brian_nz_sun> anybody install zenoss on Sol9
[28-Aug-2008 23:37:04] <brian_nz_sun> hello, anybody alive in here
[28-Aug-2008 23:37:49] <wonderhamster> Hello. I am trying to add an alert for an individual server so that it will email and smtp->sms gateway if that server goes down. I'd like to apply the rule so that applies to an individual server and not all ping alerts. What is the best way to go about doing that?
[28-Aug-2008 23:38:18] <nemo> preferences->alerts?
[28-Aug-2008 23:38:22] <nemo> did you see that stuff
[28-Aug-2008 23:38:49] <nemo> you can build a query , like device "starts with" , ends with ,and so on
[28-Aug-2008 23:39:16] <nemo> brian_nz_sun, nope no sol fun here
[28-Aug-2008 23:39:23] <wonderhamster> no I have used that for alerting. I've only been alerting based on the priority of events
[28-Aug-2008 23:40:01] <brian_nz_sun> see that, seems i'm on my own. arg well, will hack away and build a Solaris 9 PKG from scratch ...
[28-Aug-2008 23:41:14] <brian_nz_sun> wish i can convince the client to lob in a few linux boxes.
[28-Aug-2008 23:42:12] <nemo> thats why virtualisation rocks
[28-Aug-2008 23:43:15] <brian_nz_sun> true ..but i'm currently stuck with Sparc processors, and VMware does not run on that ...YET
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:05] <wonderhamster> nemo: Thank you. That just saved me a lot of time
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:14] <nemo> glad to be of service
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:34] <nemo> brian_nz_sun, you think vmware is going sparc >??:)
[28-Aug-2008 23:44:57] <nemo> sun has sun virtualisation covered, vmware wont bother surely
[28-Aug-2008 23:45:53] <brian_nz_sun> officially i'm not allowed to answer that, my employer gets cross ..
[28-Aug-2008 23:46:33] <nemo>
[28-Aug-2008 23:48:12] <cbleach> cluther: Thanks, that is what I thought. It would be nice to have the option to have the transformation evaluated every time the event occurs.
[28-Aug-2008 23:51:37] <nemo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23682&sid=23205a7b93adeccff65c99c03cebad73
[28-Aug-2008 23:51:52] <nemo> anyone knows the answer to this ? its not my post,but i have the same issue
[28-Aug-2008 23:51:53] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zendmd - Reset Bindings (at community.zenoss.com)
[28-Aug-2008 23:52:09] <nemo> problem trying to delete device templates
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[29-Aug-2008 00:18:13] <coll> what's the default user & password for zenoss?
[29-Aug-2008 00:18:27] <cbleach> admin/zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 00:18:47] <coll> thanks
[29-Aug-2008 00:36:04] <coll> zenoss is not gathering any information. what could this be? it's a centos virtual machine.
[29-Aug-2008 01:42:44] <sn1ffer72> test
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[29-Aug-2008 07:14:43] <rbw> Hello! is it possible to set up distributed monitoring with zenoss core? i.e. having a zenoss device in a remote location which collects and forwards data to a zenoss 'master server'?
[29-Aug-2008 11:49:57] <imcdona> RBW - That feature is only available in the paid version
[29-Aug-2008 12:06:45] <nemo> mmm i heard of core users setting it up
[29-Aug-2008 12:06:51] <nemo> you just cant have more than 1 hub
[29-Aug-2008 13:43:15] <sn1ffer72> I loaded a couple of zenpacks and now the web frontend will not start
[29-Aug-2008 13:43:20] <sn1ffer72> any thoughts?
[29-Aug-2008 13:44:26] <sn1ffer72> then i removed the zenpacks and still no go
[29-Aug-2008 13:45:30] <sn1ffer72> I did restart the zenoss services after I removed the zenpacks
[29-Aug-2008 17:03:52] <mindbendr> hi
[29-Aug-2008 17:04:09] <mindbendr> could someone explain why would I go witn zenoss instead of nagios?
[29-Aug-2008 17:04:35] <mindbendr> is there any specific advantages?
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[29-Aug-2008 17:55:49] <sn1ffer72> one advantage
[29-Aug-2008 17:55:59] <sn1ffer72> it's a lot easier to get up and running
[29-Aug-2008 17:56:35] <sn1ffer72> I have been doing NMS for 8 yrs
[29-Aug-2008 17:56:56] <sn1ffer72> I admin 120 systems (NetCool, NerveCenter, Nagios, WUG, MRTG, you name it)
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:07] <teletype> ugh netcool
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:20] <nemo> zenoss is a bit more corp etc i guess. still very young
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:24] <sn1ffer72> Nagios for the average person has a steep learning curve (see: just add a node with its own unique SNMP string)
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:39] <nemo> because nagios was perl, it was easier
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:41] <sn1ffer72> yes.. nagios and zen are corp based
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:49] <teletype> nagios is written in C, not perl
[29-Aug-2008 17:57:57] <nemo> like most i broke my python cherry because of zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:02] <sn1ffer72> there is no way these would scale for a carrier
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:03] <nemo> like most in here*
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:17] <nemo> sn1ffer72, the way zenoss is heading it does
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:24] <nemo> imho that is
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:34] <sn1ffer72> zenoss so far kinda pisses me off when all of a sudden the web interface stops working though
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:46] <nemo> collectors setup in 2.2.3 is nicer
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:54] <sn1ffer72> I am fairly new to zenoss... I have also used IpMonitor from solarwinds
[29-Aug-2008 17:58:56] <kgoedtel> web interface stops working? never seen that before
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:00] <nemo> sn1ffer72, i agree totally, i have my fustrations too
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:16] <nemo> how long do you run it for kgoedtel ?
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:33] <kgoedtel> over a year
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:38] <sn1ffer72> ipmonitor is prob the easiest to use
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:40] <kgoedtel> pre 2.0
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:43] <nemo> 2 devices or something ?
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:50] <kgoedtel> no
[29-Aug-2008 17:59:53] <kgoedtel> hundreds
[29-Aug-2008 18:00:20] <nemo> well i know a few ppl using it, every see it fall over every now and again
[29-Aug-2008 18:00:41] <nemo> i run some clean up scripts x2 a day to make sure theres no zope db issues etc
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:08] <nemo> i only started with 2.1x
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:10] <kgoedtel> i've had the zeo cache become corrupt but never had a problem while it was running
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:24] <nemo> i guess i have many users logging in too
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:30] <kgoedtel> yeah i don't
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:33] <kgoedtel> only 2 of us
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:35] <nemo> probably 10 or 20 screens watching it
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:47] <kgoedtel> i rarely stay logged in
[29-Aug-2008 18:01:51] <kgoedtel> the other guy does
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:03] <sn1ffer72> any idea how to clear the web server cache on this bad boy?
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:09] <kgoedtel> i just watch my alerts via email/sms
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:37] <nemo> sn1ffer72, search on tricks and tips, there is some zenoss blog with some code snippets
[29-Aug-2008 18:02:51] <nemo> writing python helper scripts is really the way to go
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:19] <nemo> i just experience much flakiness
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:30] <nemo> i am trying to look at the os tab for a device
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:36] <kgoedtel> i delete $ZENHOME/var/zeo1-1.zec
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:41] <nemo> and it just offeres a traceback ending in keyerror
[29-Aug-2008 18:03:58] <nemo> yeh i do too, twice daily
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:04] <kgoedtel> twice? lol wow
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:07] <nemo> one before "production" one after
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:11] <kgoedtel> i think i have deleted 3 times ever
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:35] <nemo> i am about the only person who understands a bit about zenoss at my co
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:45] <kgoedtel> that's not good
[29-Aug-2008 18:04:51] <nemo> busy place
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:03] <kgoedtel> monitoring is important
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:18] <nemo> i keep mentioning it, but i made good progress
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:35] <nemo> but i keep finding weirdness and solving it
[29-Aug-2008 18:05:52] <kgoedtel> my biggest complaints have been fixed already
[29-Aug-2008 18:06:18] <kgoedtel> originally i had a problem with virtual interfaces with services running on them not showing the right status
[29-Aug-2008 18:06:31] <kgoedtel> but that is working as of a few versions ago :]
[29-Aug-2008 18:07:06] <nemo> i turned most of the candy off
[29-Aug-2008 18:07:24] <nemo> and it runs quite well
[29-Aug-2008 18:08:10] <nemo> some of the best features still dont quite work well for me tho. not all zenoss's fault tho
[29-Aug-2008 18:08:53] <coll> zenoss is not gathering information. what could this be? it's a virtual machine with centos.
[29-Aug-2008 18:09:30] <nemo> coll, did you read the logs ?
[29-Aug-2008 18:09:52] <sn1ffer72> I am running version 2.2.3 via vm
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:05] <nemo> i run a vm too, i dont think thats relevant
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:09] <sn1ffer72> only the EL5 zenpacks install via cli
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:15] <sn1ffer72> non install via the web interface
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:25] <sn1ffer72> the new zenpacks do not install at all via the cli
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:25] <coll> oh
[29-Aug-2008 18:10:28] <sn1ffer72> or web interface
[29-Aug-2008 18:11:01] <nemo> i am using el5 anyway didnt notice
[29-Aug-2008 18:11:25] <coll> where are the logs nemo? /usr/local/zenoss ?
[29-Aug-2008 18:11:46] <nemo> i think you need to look up the admin guide tbh
[29-Aug-2008 18:12:10] <nemo> on mine its /opt/zenoss/log
[29-Aug-2008 18:14:41] <coll> i see the logs.. zencommand, zenhub, zenprocess, etc.
[29-Aug-2008 18:15:55] <nemo> so check out the log files
[29-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <coll> i havent installed zenpacks, is it required?
[29-Aug-2008 18:20:40] <teletype> they're optional
[29-Aug-2008 18:24:56] <coll> nothing shows up on the web interface. logs appear to have information though
[29-Aug-2008 18:33:13] <sn1ffer721> what else do you guys like other than zenoss or nagios?
[29-Aug-2008 18:38:23] <nemo> i tried a fw other things, zabbix meant to be ok , somewhat similar to zenoss i think
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:16] <nemo> when you reset template bindings , you are just doing it for that class ( and those below who inherit ) right ?
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:45] <sn1ffer721> love it
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:49] <sn1ffer721> fresh install of zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:52] <sn1ffer721> via vm
[29-Aug-2008 18:52:59] <sn1ffer721> installed the EL5 zenpacks via cli
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:07] <sn1ffer721> have not even added a device yet
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:21] <sn1ffer721> I select devices -> templates
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:32] <sn1ffer721> WinService
[29-Aug-2008 18:53:41] <sn1ffer721> add datasource
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:01] <sn1ffer721> give it a name and select httpmonitor
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:03] <sn1ffer721> save
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:13] <sn1ffer721> browser dies with an error
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:29] <sn1ffer721> tried a few other datasources such as BUILTIN
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:30] <sn1ffer721> COMMAND
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:36] <sn1ffer721> ..same deal
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:41] <teletype> your browser dies? weird.
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:42] <sn1ffer721> let me try firefox
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:44] <sn1ffer721> yeah
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:46] <nemo> yeh templates easily make stack traces for me
[29-Aug-2008 18:54:54] <teletype> oh, were you using ie? =P
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:16] <sn1ffer721> yea.. ie7
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:25] <nemo> ie works crap with zenoss
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:27] <teletype> big shock there then ;
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:28] <teletype>
[29-Aug-2008 18:55:35] <nemo> FF or other "open" browser needed
[29-Aug-2008 18:56:21] <sn1ffer721> ok.. fire fox no prob
[29-Aug-2008 19:02:54] <spectros> Is there a protocol for requesting help ?
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:02] <spectros> ZenBackendFailure: (1045, "Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: YES)")
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:03] <spectros> 2008-08-29 09:45:20 DEBUG zen.DbConnectionPool: Creating a new connection; Pool size: 0
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:13] <sj7trunks> did you change your mysql password?
[29-Aug-2008 19:05:18] <sj7trunks> for zenoss?
[29-Aug-2008 19:06:28] <spectros> no, on the initial install on the main hub it said for default install not to use a pass, so it has none, now on the additional remote hub I defined a pass but it looks like it's trying to connect to the local mysql instance which it installed on the box when I chose install hub
[29-Aug-2008 19:07:19] <sj7trunks> ah i don't know that one too well, sorry:(
[29-Aug-2008 19:08:02] <spectros> the mysql password it asks for when adding a remote hub through the interface is the one it will be installing or the one that exists on the main hub ?
[29-Aug-2008 19:09:29] <spectros> cause if it's asking for the one that is on the main application hub and not for a new password to use with the remote hub install then this would make sense
[29-Aug-2008 19:10:06] <spectros> I am using the main hub interface to add another new hub and it goes through and installs the hub on the remote machine and rsync's the files and all corrjust was wondering if anyone else has run into that
[29-Aug-2008 19:10:21] <spectros> sorry
[29-Aug-2008 19:10:28] <spectros> that got munged together
[29-Aug-2008 19:11:17] <spectros> guess I just need to find out if the mysql root pass it asks for when adding a hub is for the remote one you are adding or the local mysql root pass for the main instance
[29-Aug-2008 19:11:28] <spectros> just having that info I could troubleshoot from there
[29-Aug-2008 19:11:44] <spectros> but I couldn't find the answer to my question and the Admin doc was vague on the subject
[29-Aug-2008 20:22:28] <sn1ffer721> have you tried the old default root /root
[29-Aug-2008 20:22:59] <sn1ffer721> default is -uroot -p<blank>
[29-Aug-2008 20:24:02] <sn1ffer721> mysql -uroot -p<nada>
[29-Aug-2008 20:26:37] <sn1ffer721> any reason why the default install can discovery a file system
[29-Aug-2008 20:26:40] <sn1ffer721> size
[29-Aug-2008 20:26:46] <sn1ffer721> but not bytes used etc?
[29-Aug-2008 20:27:38] <sn1ffer721> the best I can come up with is the /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf does not allow everything
[29-Aug-2008 20:30:14] <nemo> snmpwalk is your friend
[29-Aug-2008 20:31:10] <sn1ffer721> haha
[29-Aug-2008 20:31:29] <sn1ffer721> getting lazy while looking at a long weekend
[29-Aug-2008 20:31:35] <sn1ffer721> this is just a fun pet project today
[29-Aug-2008 20:33:11] <nemo> snmpwalk is for the lazy
[29-Aug-2008 20:33:27] <nemo> its the easiest way to see what zenoss sees when it does a collection
[29-Aug-2008 20:33:40] <nemo> if you can see it when you walk it , zenoss can too
[29-Aug-2008 20:34:07] <nemo> might also depend on what collector plugins you have configured
[29-Aug-2008 20:37:41] <coll> why isnt zenoss showing up any data? has someone experienced a similar problem?
[29-Aug-2008 21:00:25] <sn1ffer721> ok I am getting utils now
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[31-Aug-2008 06:46:29] <imcdona> IS there a way to have a "graph report" auto-refresh?
[31-Aug-2008 19:36:04] <xfader> hi all i am having a problem with my zenoss install, i keep getting error "[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/var/zenwin/" for all windows servers i am monitoring, i have checked the username and password used to logon and it seems to be fine, any ideas?
[31-Aug-2008 19:40:17] <MrTux> xfader: did you simply create that path?
[31-Aug-2008 19:44:38] <xfader> the path exists
[31-Aug-2008 19:46:30] <xfader> when i model a server this appears in the output "skipping servername has bad wmi state"
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