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[01-Sep-2008 02:32:24] <coll> is there a good guide for installing zenoss on debian?
[01-Sep-2008 05:29:27] <imcdona> Also, from the manual it suggests that if you have example text in the example section it can be used to debug your regular expressions. How does that work? Also I fond that http://gskinner.com/RegExr/ is a must have to mapping events
[01-Sep-2008 05:29:35] <adytum-bot> Title: RegExr: Online Regular Expression Testing Tool (at gskinner.com)
[01-Sep-2008 10:58:45] <pb1dft> morning peeps
[01-Sep-2008 10:59:29] <pb1dft> does anyone know how to add a column to os/interfaces?
[01-Sep-2008 15:49:44] <mindbendr> hi, could someone explain what are the reasons using zenoss instead of nagios?
[01-Sep-2008 18:06:24] <zanaga> mindbendr: for me it was about not having to tweak configuration files, rather sane default configuration and the fact that it does the same as nagios + cacti (or mtrg or whatever)
[01-Sep-2008 19:55:24] <bchip> Basic question - what is the default admin account/password after installation?
[01-Sep-2008 20:05:20] <MrTux> bchip: admin, zenoss, as stated in the docs
[01-Sep-2008 20:05:46] <bchip> Yep, didn't work - I'll reinstall.
[01-Sep-2008 20:51:36] <bchip> worked that time.
[01-Sep-2008 20:51:39] <bchip> Thanks.
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[02-Sep-2008 06:08:22] <weechat2> Morning all
[02-Sep-2008 06:08:36] <weechat2> does anyone know of any nfs problems related to snmp ?
[02-Sep-2008 06:09:00] <weechat2> we get snmp warnings before we expirience nfs mounts hanging
[02-Sep-2008 06:09:13] <weechat2> just wondering if it is a known issue with you folks
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[02-Sep-2008 06:09:22] <]V[> ah that's better ;-)
[02-Sep-2008 06:18:05] * ]V[ standing by
[02-Sep-2008 07:46:24] <zanaga> i've never noticed any problems with nfs with snmp
[02-Sep-2008 07:46:42] <zanaga> almost all our hosts have some nfs services
[02-Sep-2008 09:01:54] <mindbendr> zanaga: thanks, does it use perl somehow? (considering the perl issue with RHEL based systems)
[02-Sep-2008 09:02:13] <zanaga> snmp? no
[02-Sep-2008 09:02:25] <zanaga> unless you configured some custom scripts to be run
[02-Sep-2008 09:03:19] <mindbendr> zanaga: zenoss
[02-Sep-2008 09:03:35] <mindbendr> ops.
[02-Sep-2008 09:05:22] <nemo> lol
[02-Sep-2008 09:05:30] <nemo> RTFM more like
[02-Sep-2008 09:19:09] <]V[> was the perl comment in relation to my snmp warnings followed by nfs troubles question ?
[02-Sep-2008 09:28:38] <]V[> ah sorry, is was reading badly ;-)
[02-Sep-2008 09:38:23] <zanaga> hehe.. i didn't really read too much either
[02-Sep-2008 09:38:32] <]V[>
[02-Sep-2008 09:38:45] <zanaga> mindbendr: no.. python mostly =)
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[02-Sep-2008 13:17:11] <phlax> Hi there, i want to change the severity of failed /Status/Ping alerts, for some devices. Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to change it using a transform but my alerts are all still critical
[02-Sep-2008 13:40:55] <nemo_> change it in the event class
[02-Sep-2008 13:41:08] <nemo_> goto zproperties and edit it there ( phlax )
[02-Sep-2008 13:41:31] <phlax> nemo_: i only want to change the severity for some devices (ie desktops)
[02-Sep-2008 13:41:58] <nemo_> ummmm
[02-Sep-2008 13:42:01] <nemo_> dont know then, sorry
[02-Sep-2008 13:42:14] <phlax> nemo_: thanks, out with pdb
[02-Sep-2008 14:46:16] <phlax> hi - does anyone know why zope.interface has been included as an egg in the current bundle? It is already provided in the zope code and throws errors about missing 'adapterImplied' with a default install (on debian). Removing it doesnt seem to cause any problems, but i cant help thinking its there for a reason.
[02-Sep-2008 17:40:20] <sto6ma9ch> Hello. I have a disk usage question about Zenoss
[02-Sep-2008 17:40:49] <sto6ma9ch> The server has its own 100 GB mounted disk for /usr/local/zenoss
[02-Sep-2008 17:41:05] <sto6ma9ch> The server shows that it's filled after two months
[02-Sep-2008 17:41:20] <sto6ma9ch> We have 108 devices, mostly Windows servers.
[02-Sep-2008 17:41:41] <sto6ma9ch> Is this typical, or could there be an issue with our setup?
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:04] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: do you clean up the zenoss database regularly?
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:28] <sto6ma9ch> Nope, never.
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:38] <MrTux> try /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zeopack.py -p 8100 -d 0
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:46] <MrTux> you should do this weekly
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[02-Sep-2008 17:48:28] <sto6ma9ch> MrTux: Thanks very much for the suggestion. I'll take a look at that when I get a moment.
[02-Sep-2008 17:48:56] <sto6ma9ch> MrTux: I don't seee this command in the Zenoss admin guide. Is this a documented feature?
[02-Sep-2008 17:49:57] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: i think so, if not it's part of zope and documented there. the zopedb doesn't do a garbage collection, so you need zeopack
[02-Sep-2008 17:50:35] <sto6ma9ch> I see. Well, thanks again. This software is amazing!
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[03-Sep-2008 00:30:18] <eurowerke> just compiled a fresh 2.2.3 version, a bunch of the daemons aren't running... how can I proceed to find out what the problem is?
[03-Sep-2008 00:46:42] <eurowerke> anyone?
[03-Sep-2008 00:47:13] <eurowerke> fresh 2.2.3 install on fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, 6 of the daemons won't start
[03-Sep-2008 00:47:37] <eurowerke> logs don't seem to reveal anything
[03-Sep-2008 01:05:10] <eurowerke> is anyone available to help me?
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[03-Sep-2008 05:46:09] <exkev> eurowerke, hrm.. I'm recalling I had that
[03-Sep-2008 05:46:18] <exkev> but it wasn't a fresh install
[03-Sep-2008 05:46:28] <exkev> I had busted upgrades due to hanging references in zeodb
[03-Sep-2008 05:46:58] <exkev> my db had been messed up for a long time, but I did finally sort it out
[03-Sep-2008 10:05:57] <mindbendr> I've installed Zenoss native packages and started but there's no web interface available, should I install some other additional package?
[03-Sep-2008 10:17:05] <nemo_> did you follow the install procedure ?
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:38] <mindbendr> for the native packages, yeah
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:41] <mindbendr> dloaded and installed rpms
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:59] <mindbendr> # /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:59] <mindbendr> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 103: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[03-Sep-2008 10:22:02] <mindbendr> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 103: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[03-Sep-2008 10:22:05] <mindbendr> Daemon: zenhub starting...
[03-Sep-2008 10:22:13] <mindbendr> i get these errors for the first 2 processes though
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:12] <nemo_> did you set a password for mysql
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:20] <nemo_> if you did thats what messed it up
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:32] <mindbendr> yes I did
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:33] <nemo_> rpm -e the packages
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:38] <nemo_> rm -fr /opt/zenoss
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:45] <mindbendr> I set up
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:45] <nemo_> and redo it . dont set a mysql pass
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:50] <mindbendr> as the instructions say
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:59] <mindbendr> I set the root mysql pass and put it into zenoss config
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:07] <nemo_> your not listening to me
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:14] <nemo_> get zenoss up first and then set a pass
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:15] <mindbendr> yeah but it doesn't make sense
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:19] <nemo_> i gotta go , no time
[03-Sep-2008 10:56:44] <mindbendr> what's the default user/pass for the web interface?!
[03-Sep-2008 10:57:17] <monrad> admin/zenoss
[03-Sep-2008 10:58:57] <mindbendr> why is it not documented in the installation guides
[03-Sep-2008 11:00:38] <mindbendr> is there a client/server relationship or do i need to install zenoss to all servers I'd like to monitor?
[03-Sep-2008 11:05:36] <nemo_> sounds like you need to google and read up
[03-Sep-2008 11:05:46] <nemo_> we are here to talk about zenoss on going
[03-Sep-2008 11:06:00] <nemo_> not support people by telling them absolute basics
[03-Sep-2008 11:06:16] <nemo_> if the docs are wrong, get in touch with zenoss, its an opensource project
[03-Sep-2008 11:06:19] <nemo_> get involved
[03-Sep-2008 11:08:17] <mindbendr> nemo_: the documentation is so rubbish
[03-Sep-2008 11:08:30] <mindbendr> nemo_: that's why I'm asking here
[03-Sep-2008 11:09:47] <nemo_> well i said my bit
[03-Sep-2008 11:09:56] <nemo_> you wont get answers from me
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:04] <nemo_> i dont work for zenoss, i jsut use it
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:07] <nemo_> i owe you nothing
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:41] <mindbendr> i don't remember pointing you out to get some answers
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:48] <nemo_> no i sit in here
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:57] <nemo_> and your here asking the same questions for 3 days
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:07] <nemo_> i attempted to help you, but you seem to be an ass
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:11] <mindbendr> so just ignore it, someone else might come up
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:12] <nemo_> anyway /ignore going on
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:25] <nemo_> mindbendr added to ignore list. thx
[03-Sep-2008 13:19:04] <sn1ffer72> Who here has used the http zenpack?
[03-Sep-2008 13:44:41] <sn1ffer72> Never mind
[03-Sep-2008 13:44:42] <sn1ffer72> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[03-Sep-2008 13:44:59] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Sep-2008 13:46:31] <sn1ffer72> any reason why zenpacks ending in -py2.4 will not load on zenoss 2.2.3?
[03-Sep-2008 13:50:20] <nemo_> something changed
[03-Sep-2008 13:50:31] <nemo_> now we use the .egg files or something
[03-Sep-2008 13:50:37] <nemo_> after upgrade to 2.2.3 anyway
[03-Sep-2008 13:58:17] <sn1ffer72> the older EL5 packs load no prob
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:06] <sn1ffer72> sweet
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:08] <sn1ffer72> fixed it
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:15] <sn1ffer72> you gotta rename the .zip files to .egg
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:29] <sn1ffer72> then load them via the CLI
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:34] <sn1ffer72> then restart the daemons
[03-Sep-2008 14:12:02] <nemo_> koolio
[03-Sep-2008 16:10:46] <daveto2> *sigh*
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[03-Sep-2008 16:11:13] <DaveTo1> Zenoss' use of RRDTools needs redesign
[03-Sep-2008 16:13:08] <DaveTo1> How can we create percentage-based thresholds if we can't use COMPUTE datasources?
[03-Sep-2008 17:22:14] <sn1ffer72> I just downloaded and tried out a competitor to zenoss called Hyperic HQ
[03-Sep-2008 17:22:23] <sn1ffer72> it sucks so don't waste your time
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:17] <daMaestro> how do we reset the admin password?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:23] <daMaestro> i didn't see it in the acl_users
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:31] <daMaestro> so it must be a zope user/pass?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:39] <sn1ffer72> in the web frontend or on the os?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:39] <daMaestro> i assume i can just use zpasswd?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:59] <daMaestro> i don't care which, i just ldap enabled the instance and want to change the password for the admin user
[03-Sep-2008 18:57:58] <daMaestro> ah, i found the proper acl_users entry
[03-Sep-2008 18:59:55] <daMaestro> gah, well i sure broke something changing the root zope admin password
[03-Sep-2008 19:05:41] <sn1ffer72> seems like everything breaks something with this product
[03-Sep-2008 19:05:52] <sn1ffer72> I created the http template etc as directed via their docs
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:04] <sn1ffer72> now the zenhub service does not start
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:15] <sn1ffer72> so, I restored using a working backup that I setup on Friday...
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:33] <sn1ffer72> restored it.. and it does not do a wipe restore, but rather select items
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:43] <sn1ffer72> thus, the zenhub service still does not start
[03-Sep-2008 19:07:31] <daMaestro> it was because there was an ldap provided user "admin" that didn't have the proper roles mapped
[03-Sep-2008 19:07:36] * daMaestro fixed everything now
[03-Sep-2008 19:12:06] <sn1ffer72> I think the zenpack .egg killed it
[03-Sep-2008 19:12:09] <sn1ffer72>
[03-Sep-2008 19:13:48] <sn1ffer72> basically the errors for the zenhub service state that the app can no longer talk to the mysql db
[03-Sep-2008 19:17:21] <sj7trunks> are there any docs to add tabs or status indicators for events you've setup to monitor
[03-Sep-2008 19:17:23] <sj7trunks> ?
[03-Sep-2008 19:54:43] <eurowerke> i just completed a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 and a fresh install of 2.2.3 from source, and 4 of the daemons will not start
[03-Sep-2008 19:54:53] <eurowerke> anyone around to lend some help?
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:09] <sn1ffer72> yeah
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:10] <sn1ffer72> love it
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:23] <sn1ffer72> your better off downloading the preconfigured VMware appliance
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:27] <sn1ffer72> and the free VMWare player
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:36] <sn1ffer72> in my case I hosed the zenpack installer
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:37] <sn1ffer72>
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:19] <eurowerke> lol
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:25] <eurowerke> blah
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:29] <eurowerke> i already built this though
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:42] <eurowerke> I can log in and everything
[03-Sep-2008 19:57:01] <eurowerke> but zentrap, modeler, perfsnmp and process won't stay running
[03-Sep-2008 19:57:59] <eurowerke> AttributeError: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[03-Sep-2008 20:47:16] <sn1ffer72> see you guys tomorrow
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[04-Sep-2008 07:23:15] <shakespear> hi - I am trying to import Rack/Slot Informationen to Zenoss. Currently I haven't found any solution to write to the slot attribute of a device. I tried the method "manage_editDevice", but it overwrites other attributes with defaults.
[04-Sep-2008 14:23:52] <sn1ffer72> good morning
[04-Sep-2008 14:25:53] <sn1ffer72> does anyone know if there is a way to bulk load nodes into zenoss?
[04-Sep-2008 14:36:34] <shakespear> it is called zenbatchload: zenbatchload -i devices.txt
[04-Sep-2008 14:37:29] <sn1ffer72> thanks
[04-Sep-2008 14:46:35] <nemo_> shakespear, the admin guide contains all the available vars
[04-Sep-2008 14:46:51] <nemo_> you can also use the zport/manage zope interface to look into structure
[04-Sep-2008 14:57:50] * cheflog__ magnachef
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[04-Sep-2008 14:58:34] <magnachef> has anyone ever used the email delivery and receipt scripts for monitoring round trip times for email?
[04-Sep-2008 15:09:29] <shakespear> nemo_: thx, I know it is 'rackSlot', but how can I store information to it from an external Programm (i.e. I want to import Rack/Slot information from an Excel-Sheet - everything is finished except the actual write of the RackSLot# Attribute)
[04-Sep-2008 15:17:53] <axel> hello, i've capture cisco catalyst with zenoss and i got so many interface. some of them named unrouted vlan tangging / unrouted vlan tagging. does everybody knows about the term?
[04-Sep-2008 15:22:24] <magnachef> what do you mean by term?
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:15] <nemo_> shakespear, are you using python ?
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:33] <nemo_> axel: google on it
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:40] <nemo_> its been very much discussed
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:51] <shakespear> nemo_: yes
[04-Sep-2008 15:27:57] <nemo_> http://zenoss.pastebin.com/m35025357
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[04-Sep-2008 15:28:13] <nemo_> you normally need to use some kind of get() function
[04-Sep-2008 15:33:04] <axel> magnachef: i mean "unrouted vlan tangging"
[04-Sep-2008 15:36:33] <axel> i've google it, but i got how to ignore unrouted vlan. my question is why cisco produce / display unrouted vlan? does it zenoss bug? or something else?
[04-Sep-2008 15:36:50] <axel> any explanation?
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:34] <sn1ffer72> ok to confirm.. the zenbatchload file should look like this?
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> /Device/Server/Windows
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> crazy-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> funny-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> grumpy-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> /Device/Server/Linux
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:37] <sn1ffer72> sleepy-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:39] <sn1ffer72> smelly-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:57:35] <shakespear> sn1ffer72: smells good
[04-Sep-2008 15:58:33] <sn1ffer72> nice
[04-Sep-2008 15:58:40] <sn1ffer72> I will start baking then
[04-Sep-2008 15:58:57] <sn1ffer72> I already cloned this VM so if it blows up once again I am good
[04-Sep-2008 15:59:53] <sn1ffer72> my final notice... if you try to install any ZenPacks that end in -py*.zip it will smoke your zenpack setup stopping communication with the mysql db
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:07] <sn1ffer72> so.. only load the zenpacks that are labled EL5
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:14] <sn1ffer72> this is my 5th install
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:27] <sn1ffer72> each time after I killed it loading zenpacks
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:30] <sn1ffer72> of the newer version
[04-Sep-2008 16:03:42] <shakespear> nemo_: do you mean I have to read everthing from the devices and than store it back with manage_editDevice(..rackSlot=<MySlot>, productionState=<read state> .. etc.)
[04-Sep-2008 16:04:03] <shakespear> i tried to avoid this ...
[04-Sep-2008 16:50:07] <eurowerke> blargh
[04-Sep-2008 17:26:09] <sn1ffer72> yes. that zenbatchload format worked
[04-Sep-2008 17:39:04] <sploozer> anyone have their zenoss system working with cisco gear? Zenoss keeps telling me the snmp agent is down but my cisco 3550 has everything up and running
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:03] <magnachef> i have a bunch of cisco gear workign fine
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:24] <magnachef> are you able to poll it via snmp?
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:28] <magnachef> from the server?
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:33] <magnachef> from the commandline
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:40] <sploozer> using the GUI interface
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:53] <sploozer> on my 3550 it does say "140" unknown community name"
[04-Sep-2008 17:41:10] <sploozer> but it has received 151 snmp packets and sent 33
[04-Sep-2008 17:41:13] <sploozer> i'm using snmp v3
[04-Sep-2008 17:41:14] <magnachef> ok, so you need to poll with the proper version of SNMP and community string
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:07] <sploozer> when I try to model the device it gives me nable to talk: SNMP info for 10.2.1.2 at 10.2.1.2:162 timeout: 2.5 tries: 2 version: v3 securityName: authType: privType:
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:16] <sploozer> I changed the SNMP version
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:29] <sploozer> under zproperties
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:33] <sploozer> right now i'm using noauth
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:36] <sploozer> just as a test
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:52] <sploozer> but I don't see an area in zenoss to put the group and username
[04-Sep-2008 17:43:33] <sploozer> the community is set to "public" rigth now
[04-Sep-2008 17:43:44] <magnachef> they're there, just under a not so intuitive name
[04-Sep-2008 17:44:55] <sploozer> hmmm
[04-Sep-2008 17:45:33] <sploozer> zWinuser
[04-Sep-2008 17:45:39] <`m3> any one else running 2.2.3+ collectors
[04-Sep-2008 17:45:51] <`m3> like a main zenoss server and a collector
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:03] <eurowerke> aside from the default collector?
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:09] <`m3> yes eurowerke
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:15] <eurowerke> ah not me
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:18] <eurowerke> you using enterprise?
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:35] <`m3> i am. but the only difference is hubs
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:46] <eurowerke> did you create the add'l collector?
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:49] <`m3> you cant make new hubs, but you can add collectors, AFAIK
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:50] <eurowerke> (s)
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:52] <`m3> i did
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:00] <eurowerke> what's the problem with it
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:01] <eurowerke> ?
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:04] <`m3> all seems to work, logs look good
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:11] <`m3> but the graphs display no data
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:21] <`m3> like theyre not broken, but theres no data
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:25] <`m3> nan
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:40] <`m3> is displayed where you would expect to see avg, max and so on
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:48] <`m3> the graphs are there , just dont have data
[04-Sep-2008 17:48:04] <`m3> zenperfsnmp logs are good , zenhub log is good
[04-Sep-2008 17:48:49] <sploozer> magnachef: whats the group field identified as ?
[04-Sep-2008 17:48:55] <sploozer> under zproperties
[04-Sep-2008 17:49:41] <magnachef> one sec
[04-Sep-2008 17:50:05] <magnachef> what do you mean by group?
[04-Sep-2008 17:50:32] <magnachef> and are you adding these devices to the /Devices/Network/Router/Cisco class?
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:10] <sploozer> hmm
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:15] <sploozer> looks like it collected some information now
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:22] <sploozer> i added the securityname in there
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:37] <sploozer> i was able to pull some stats, but it didnt pull CPU info
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:43] <`m3> eurowerke, http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179&sid=9d9cb7536758c48a393f8430ecee5307
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:45] <sploozer> or HW make
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to Solve Graphing Problems (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:07] <`m3> i done all that stuff already ( only just read that post but i already knew what to check )
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:31] <`m3> still no banana , but it seems not that mean people run with additional collectors
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:49] <sploozer> its under /network/switch
[04-Sep-2008 17:53:21] <magnachef> click on the down arrow (menu) under that device class, then go to "More" -> "Collector Plugins"
[04-Sep-2008 17:53:46] <sploozer> ok
[04-Sep-2008 17:53:54] <eurowerke> hrm
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:10] <magnachef> make sure you have all teh zenoss.snmp.Cisco* plugins added
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:25] <sploozer> only have four in there
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:34] <sploozer> do I have to add the cisco zen pack to populate all of that?
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:54] <magnachef> don't think so
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:55] <sploozer> it only has newdevicemap devicemap interfacempa and routemap
[04-Sep-2008 17:55:10] <magnachef> oh...click on the "Add Fields" link to the right
[04-Sep-2008 17:55:41] <sploozer> ok
[04-Sep-2008 17:55:50] <sploozer> i see cisco
[04-Sep-2008 17:56:15] <sploozer> zenoss.snmp.ciscomap
[04-Sep-2008 17:56:23] <magnachef> yep
[04-Sep-2008 17:56:31] <sploozer> save that and then refresh
[04-Sep-2008 17:57:49] <magnachef> yeah, remodel
[04-Sep-2008 17:59:29] <sploozer> ah
[04-Sep-2008 17:59:40] <eurowerke> you did all that m3 and no results?
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:08] <`m3> yeh thats why i want to find someone else who has collectors eurowerke
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:18] <`m3> want to compare settings
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:35] <`m3> i thought it might be the RenderServer settings
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:49] <sploozer> hmm still no memory/cpu info
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:52] <sploozer> after remodeled
[04-Sep-2008 18:01:04] <`m3> the docs dont mention anything, but in previous version you had to set that url / pass to the main servers details
[04-Sep-2008 18:01:14] <`m3> i tried it and it failed
[04-Sep-2008 18:01:36] <sploozer> I guess i need to add a custom mib?
[04-Sep-2008 18:03:29] <magnachef> yeah, there may be a zenpack for that
[04-Sep-2008 18:03:44] <sploozer> i see
[04-Sep-2008 18:04:20] <sploozer> i see the sectin for add mibs, if I wanted to have zenoss monitor environment constraints I would need to add the custom mib?
[04-Sep-2008 18:04:34] <sploozer> are you monitoring environmental characteristics?
[04-Sep-2008 18:07:50] <magnachef> you would, but I'm not doing that currently
[04-Sep-2008 18:08:26] <sploozer> ok
[04-Sep-2008 18:09:02] <Nate187> Is there any way to reference the interface properties (ifindex, macaddress, etc) in a data source command template in order to pass them as arguements to a script?
[04-Sep-2008 18:10:44] <magnachef> I don't know. I've always wanted a list of those available property variables
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:22] <`m3> there a list in the admin guide
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:36] <`m3> i am not sure it covers mac etc tho
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:43] <`m3> must be accessible though
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:51] <`m3> i struggle with that when scripting too
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:56] <Nate187> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/apcs02.html
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[04-Sep-2008 18:16:33] <Nate187> there should be a way to get the attributes for the interface
[04-Sep-2008 18:21:21] <`m3> try looking in /zport/manage/
[04-Sep-2008 18:21:53] <`m3> careful not to change anything tho, i mean to understand the structure and possible attribute names
[04-Sep-2008 18:38:26] <sploozer> magnachef: when I do a snmpwalk on the 3550 it doesnt like anything after it completes, but it does not return an errors
[04-Sep-2008 18:39:49] <magnachef> define "doesn't like anything"
[04-Sep-2008 18:40:14] <sploozer> sorry...it does not return anything
[04-Sep-2008 18:40:31] <sploozer> actually it returned a few things this time, odd
[04-Sep-2008 18:40:49] <sploozer> but only a few mibs
[04-Sep-2008 18:41:03] <sploozer> not sure why its show snmpv2
[04-Sep-2008 18:41:48] <magnachef> are you walking via command line or through the interface?
[04-Sep-2008 18:42:03] <sploozer> gui int
[04-Sep-2008 18:42:44] <sploozer> ciscoEnvMonObjects.1 I'll have to add that
[04-Sep-2008 18:44:19] <sploozer> i'm having a conceptual problem I believe...I've enabled snmp on my gear but I does Zenoss have the ability to pull mibs automatically ?
[04-Sep-2008 18:45:33] <magnachef> only what's setup by default - which isn't much
[04-Sep-2008 18:45:57] <magnachef> you'll need to go through, add the data points to monitor, the thresholds, graphing stuff, etc
[04-Sep-2008 18:46:35] <sploozer> shouldnt snmp walk pull all the mibs/definitions from the switch?
[04-Sep-2008 18:47:11] <magnachef> snmp can do it, but Zenoss doesn't automatically add all of them for monitoring
[04-Sep-2008 18:47:18] <magnachef> that's where zenpacks come in
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:21] <sploozer> alright, I need to find where to add the cisco zenpack, I remember there was an area in the GUI which allowed you to add a zenpack
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:39] <sn1ffer72> yeah... doesn't work
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:45] <sn1ffer72> gotta add it via the cli
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:52] <sn1ffer72> copy it somewhere on the box
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:58] <magnachef> yep
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:05] <magnachef> settings -> zenpacks
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:11] <sn1ffer72> zenpack --install <zenpack module name here>
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:21] <sn1ffer72> then you will see it in the gui
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:29] <`m3> sploozer, you can add mibs with zenmib command or through the interface
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:42] <sploozer> ah there is
[04-Sep-2008 18:52:07] <sploozer> 'm3: i see, but do you go about searching for the proper mib on the device, is there a compiler which displays all the available mibs and defines their characteristics?
[04-Sep-2008 18:52:29] <`m3> i loaded the ones i was interested in
[04-Sep-2008 18:53:21] <sploozer> yea but where did you find out the purpose of those specific mibs?
[04-Sep-2008 18:54:27] <`m3> i use google for almost everything like mibs for ibm x3550 or whatever
[04-Sep-2008 18:55:00] <`m3> the only thing i found it helps with is translation of traps / events
[04-Sep-2008 18:56:24] <`m3> instead of seeing a number like .1.3.6. etc , you see some text
[04-Sep-2008 19:59:16] <rbw> hello!
[04-Sep-2008 20:00:10] <rbw> is it possible to set up distributed monitoring with zenoss core?
[04-Sep-2008 20:01:29] <rbw> I know there's built-in functionality for this in the enterprise version
[04-Sep-2008 20:21:51] <sploozer> magnachef: you there?
[04-Sep-2008 20:28:17] <sploozer> I don't understand why I only get a few mibs displayed when I run an snmp walk on my 3550 using Zenoss
[04-Sep-2008 20:28:30] <sploozer> do I have to include additional views on my 3550?
[04-Sep-2008 20:43:41] <`m3> sploozer, sounds like your snmp config is restrictive
[04-Sep-2008 20:44:18] <sploozer> i just found a respository of cisco mibs
[04-Sep-2008 20:44:26] <sploozer> i've gotta snmpwalk them I believe
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[04-Sep-2008 20:45:27] <`m3> you walk a device , not a mib surely
[04-Sep-2008 20:45:55] <`m3> maybe read about how snmp works ( no harm intended, it might help )
[04-Sep-2008 20:47:00] <sploozer> what I meant to say is I have to snmpwalk the device to pull the OIDs then I should be able to have zenoss understand those OIDs since I have pulled all the Cisco MIBs
[04-Sep-2008 21:07:06] <CamargoBP> Anyone here?
[04-Sep-2008 21:07:44] <CamargoBP> I've got a quick question.
[04-Sep-2008 21:09:30] <CamargoBP> I'm getting this error: 2008-09-04 14:55:53 ERROR zen.ZenDisc failed device discovery fo
[04-Sep-2008 21:09:44] <CamargoBP> Now I can't model and devices
[04-Sep-2008 21:09:59] <CamargoBP> Or add devices
[04-Sep-2008 21:10:27] <CamargoBP> I've been searching the forms but can't come up with anything
[04-Sep-2008 21:16:34] <CamargoBP> I rebooted the server and that fixed everything
[04-Sep-2008 21:23:42] <`m3> sploozer, i refer to my earlier statement. snmpwalking a device will have no effect on zenoss
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:10] <sploozer> i've added the MIB
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:14] <`m3> once you have your device load , you need to set the collector plugins ( per device or per device class )
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:22] <`m3> loaded*
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:24] <sploozer> into Zenoss....CISCO-ENVMON-MIB
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:29] <`m3> then model the device
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:59] <sploozer> i've added that in, but now I still need to setup OID mappings, I thought it would do that automatically if I scan the device again
[04-Sep-2008 21:25:24] <`m3> mibs ONLY translate oid ( numbers ) into text , e.g. 1.3.6.34.5.3.12.43.1 might be your system uptime
[04-Sep-2008 21:25:55] <sploozer> i understand that....
[04-Sep-2008 21:26:17] <sploozer> but now that I have a mib loaded I should be able to scan the box again s it can map the mib and the OID
[04-Sep-2008 21:26:29] <`m3> i am not certain about that, else you wouldnt keep going on about mibs
[04-Sep-2008 21:26:50] <sploozer> ok i'll leave that for a second
[04-Sep-2008 21:27:01] <sploozer> collector plugins I have selected I believe....
[04-Sep-2008 21:27:13] <`m3> modeling ( even with mibs ) is where you want to be
[04-Sep-2008 21:27:41] <`m3> then once have something modelled , if you have messages with oid numbers you cant translate, apply mibs to translate
[04-Sep-2008 21:28:10] <sploozer> I have 5 zCollectorPlugins loaded
[04-Sep-2008 21:28:19] <sploozer> which includes zenoss.snmp.CiscoMap
[04-Sep-2008 21:28:56] <sploozer> I then model the device
[04-Sep-2008 21:29:29] <sploozer> in this instance i set the plugins for a specific device
[04-Sep-2008 21:30:06] <sploozer> but where would it display the new information relating to the mib i loaded?
[04-Sep-2008 21:31:01] <sploozer> whats weird is I only have two component types when I'm looking at the device
[04-Sep-2008 21:32:18] <sploozer> 'm3: you there?
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:09] <`m3> sploozer, sorry i think you need to read about snmp and how zenoss works
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:23] <`m3> i am here to help people and be helped, but i read all the manuals and stuff too
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:37] <`m3> i am not here to teach you, sorry, you can do that your self
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:56] <sploozer> fair enough
[04-Sep-2008 22:20:50] <sploozer> hey `m3: thanks for your help
[04-Sep-2008 22:21:15] <`m3> cool, you got more success now?
[04-Sep-2008 22:23:44] <sploozer> well i'm currently reading some literature which is helping me understand better
[04-Sep-2008 22:24:13] <sploozer> do you have any recommended readings on the web for snmp/mib architecture?
[04-Sep-2008 22:24:19] <sploozer> just curious
[04-Sep-2008 22:25:27] <sploozer> ..
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:00] <sploozer> how I currently understand is, a MIB contains a ton of various related to a device the OID must be linked to that variable to pull it out via SNMP
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:34] <sploozer> so what I was constantly getting confused about was , if I have loaded a mib into zenoss, how do I determine all the relative OIDs for that MIB
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:40] <sploozer> w/o looking at the tree
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:49] <sploozer> does that make sense?
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:14] <`m3> the point is your dont have to
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:27] <`m3> think of an oid as a translation library
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:45] <`m3> you only need it if your see those numbers i was telling you about.
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:46] <`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch09s12.html
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[04-Sep-2008 22:28:14] <`m3> zenoss has some basic mibs loaded
[04-Sep-2008 22:28:32] <`m3> unless your trying to model some weird device you prob dont need extra mibs
[04-Sep-2008 22:28:53] <eurowerke> is there a way to change the default sort field on the device list?
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:03] <sploozer> yea I understand that, but say i wanna monitor environmental variables
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:09] <`m3> yeh click the columns eurowerke
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:25] <`m3> like what sploozer
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:57] <sploozer> zenoss needs to extract the necessary information from the device to parse that information
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:03] <sploozer> via snmp
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:09] <`m3> yup
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:25] <eurowerke> well it doesn't stick m3
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:37] <eurowerke> to make it sort by default on a certain field
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:46] <eurowerke> it always sorts by name
[04-Sep-2008 22:32:16] <sploozer> after I load a MIB into zenoss, it should be able to snmpwalk the device and extract the necessary information since it has that preloaded MIB, correct?
[04-Sep-2008 22:32:28] <sploozer> if thats not correct, thats where my misunderstanding is
[04-Sep-2008 22:33:14] <`m3> eurowerke, ah i see what you mean
[04-Sep-2008 22:33:32] <`m3> trying exploring in /zport/manager/
[04-Sep-2008 22:34:06] <`m3> i am not sure if the sort order is set in code somewhere or in the zeo db ( manage that with /zport/manage/ )
[04-Sep-2008 22:34:40] <`m3> snmpwalk is 1000% unrelated to zenoss
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:00] <`m3> only simularity is they both use snmp
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:18] <sploozer> haha, snmpwalk allows you to list all the OIDS of a device
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:21] <sploozer> i see
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:29] <`m3> snmpwalk just walks the devie and displays the data it finds
[04-Sep-2008 22:36:26] <`m3> you are trying to fix a problem that doesnt exist
[04-Sep-2008 22:36:36] <`m3> stop worrying about mibs
[04-Sep-2008 22:37:00] <sploozer> hah alright...that is indeed what I keep getting wrapped around on
[04-Sep-2008 22:41:02] <sploozer> im gonan test out this 2950 laying around the barn
[04-Sep-2008 23:02:08] <eurowerke> 2950?
[04-Sep-2008 23:02:10] <eurowerke> procurve?
[04-Sep-2008 23:03:23] <monrad> 2950 sounds like cisco
[04-Sep-2008 23:13:12] <eurowerke> oh
[04-Sep-2008 23:13:13] <eurowerke> lol
[04-Sep-2008 23:32:26] <sploozer> yea its cisco
[04-Sep-2008 23:32:27] <sploozer> lol
[04-Sep-2008 23:58:43] <crashdummyMCH> has anyone tried running zenoss on ibm powerpc?
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[05-Sep-2008 09:00:11] <Han> how can I make sure specific users can only see events from specific locations?
[05-Sep-2008 09:48:51] <Comradin> am trying to install zenoss, but my database is running on a different machine.. looking at the opts I can set port and login credentials, but not the server?
[05-Sep-2008 09:50:26] <Comradin> the admin guide tells me that I have to change it in a running zenoss instance..
[05-Sep-2008 09:50:49] <Comradin> bad luck, the server I am going to install runs mysql 4.1 not 5
[05-Sep-2008 11:56:19] <cocolo> zenoss not good, probe me I am wrong!!!
[05-Sep-2008 12:01:53] <nemo_> considered yourself probed then
[05-Sep-2008 12:03:24] <zanaga> http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=zenoss+good&word2=zenoss+bad
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[05-Sep-2008 12:36:02] <cocolo> OK nemo_ I will spell correctly, now
[05-Sep-2008 12:36:14] <cocolo> zenoss not good, prove me I am wrong!!
[05-Sep-2008 12:38:45] <guym> hello
[05-Sep-2008 12:40:42] <guym> anyone on this channel?
[05-Sep-2008 12:41:40] <nemo_> cocolo, negative
[05-Sep-2008 12:41:47] <nemo_> prove yourself
[05-Sep-2008 12:43:13] <guym> hi nemo_ is it okay to ask zenoss questions here?
[05-Sep-2008 12:44:53] <nemo_> yes guym , however if you just cant be bothered to read about it , dont expect answers to silly questions
[05-Sep-2008 12:45:33] <guym> nemo_ sure, thanks
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:02] <guym> my question is about using apache as the webserver instead of zope so that I may use webauth for authentication
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:14] <nemo_> web auth ?
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:27] <nemo_> i use ldap against zope / zenoss for auth
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:28] <guym> kerberos based http auth,
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:37] <nemo_> hmmm i dont know much about it all
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:41] <nemo_> at all*
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:16] <guym> the auth part is stage 2
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:31] <guym> before I can test that, I need to be able to use apache as the webserver
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:36] <guym> do you know anything about that?
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:48] <nemo_> i got a feeling it just wont work
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:56] <nemo_> zope and zenoss are a package
[05-Sep-2008 12:48:37] <guym> I'm starting to think that. There are instructions out there for using apache with zope, but not with the zenoss flavour of zope
[05-Sep-2008 12:49:06] <guym> for example, in my /opt/zenoss/doc/WEBSERVER.txt
[05-Sep-2008 12:49:15] <guym> i.e. this file http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/trunk/doc/WEBSERVER.txt
[05-Sep-2008 12:49:48] <guym> but the method used by zenoss to configure and start zope is quite different
[05-Sep-2008 13:08:48] <cocolo> Ok nemo_, I installed zenoss = straight forward with the RPM in centos,
[05-Sep-2008 13:09:44] <cocolo> then I try and discover the network, = it pings the whole network, ( We can do that with nmap as well )
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:12] <cocolo> and no information from servers,
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:22] <cocolo> so prove me I am wrong,
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:49] <cocolo> I need snmp for the servers right?
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:53] <cocolo> wich packages?
[05-Sep-2008 13:11:21] <cocolo> for centos5 for example.
[05-Sep-2008 13:12:13] <guym> cocolo: I use net-snmp-utils-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1
[05-Sep-2008 13:12:13] <guym> net-snmp-libs-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1
[05-Sep-2008 13:12:13] <guym> net-snmp-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1
[05-Sep-2008 13:16:10] <cocolo> :q!
[05-Sep-2008 13:16:22] <cocolo> sorry, wrong window...
[05-Sep-2008 13:33:09] <sn1ffer72> Is there a way to bulk administrate devices
[05-Sep-2008 13:33:23] <sn1ffer72> meaning.. select them all to be administrated by a particular account?
[05-Sep-2008 13:34:34] <cocolo> Ok, now its discovering, but what about the devices that don't have snmp available (old unix/linux distributions)
[05-Sep-2008 13:36:50] <nemo_> cocolo, i have zero intention of proving you wrong
[05-Sep-2008 13:36:58] <nemo_> so pls dont ask
[05-Sep-2008 13:37:07] <nemo_> i made it clear now i hope
[05-Sep-2008 13:37:20] <nemo_> cocolo added to ignore list.
[05-Sep-2008 13:50:30] sploozer is now known as Guest68841
[05-Sep-2008 13:51:14] <sploozer> anyone know where I can get a backup of all the default files in /zenoss/bin ?? They were deleted by mistake....
[05-Sep-2008 13:51:35] <sploozer> is there a /reinstall feature in the setup on linux?
[05-Sep-2008 13:54:48] <sploozer> anyone have a pub with the zenoss/bin files?
[05-Sep-2008 13:56:44] <nemo_> the IQ of this channel is going downwards i am sure
[05-Sep-2008 14:02:29] <Bulwinkle> nemo_: hahah
[05-Sep-2008 14:15:27] <Comradin> Id like to put Apache in Front of my Zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 14:16:01] <Comradin> that I do not need to use the 8080 port for accessing the zenoss interface
[05-Sep-2008 14:19:03] <tklt_> nemo_ the fact that somebody doesn't know, and asks doesn't mean IQ is llow, IQ low would be if they don't ask and stay stupid for ever (adding the low IQ)
[05-Sep-2008 14:22:24] <Comradin> or substracting it?
[05-Sep-2008 14:22:44] <Comradin> anyway, any ideas how to put zenoss behind an apache webserver?
[05-Sep-2008 14:22:52] <tklt_> IQ low all the way is when there is someone who knows a little about something little and criticizes because someone else doesn't know
[05-Sep-2008 14:23:48] <tklt_> bye _nemo
[05-Sep-2008 14:24:03] <tklt_> or <n emo_
[05-Sep-2008 14:28:21] <mf2ng> hehe
[05-Sep-2008 14:31:11] <mf2ng> there's nothing more stupid than ppl speaking of how stupid other ppl are. If one does see other ppl questions "smart enough" they should keep their mouth shut and consentrate for bashing their heads to the wall...
[05-Sep-2008 14:31:30] <mf2ng> does *not*
[05-Sep-2008 14:32:12] <mf2ng> and note to self: keep your glasses on when you write so can see what you write
[05-Sep-2008 14:34:35] <mf2ng> the problem is, in my opinion, that the zenoss offers so many features that is not found in any ms-based software that it attracts ppl from ms-world and darn they are confused for a year or two =)
[05-Sep-2008 14:35:18] <mf2ng> they doesn't seem to understand that while zenoss can be run in ms with virtual appliance, it's still needing some basic linux skills
[05-Sep-2008 14:37:06] <dom> i try install zenoss on linux but no c:\zenoss what i do wrong?
[05-Sep-2008 14:37:57] <Comradin> there is no c:\ in linux?
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:03] <mf2ng> nice but obvious troll =)
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:05] <Comradin> the filesystem starts with /
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:08] <Comradin>
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:08] <dom>
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:43] <mf2ng> and it should be c:\program files\zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:44] <mf2ng>
[05-Sep-2008 14:40:26] <mf2ng> and by btw, it would be bad open sourve business to make an product too easy to use and maintain
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:08] <mf2ng> *source*.. damn these eyeglasses doesn't even help, maybe it's because my lower IQ
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:16] <mf2ng> ARGH, *OF*
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:29] <mf2ng> definetly retarded
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:58] <fuzz_> humm.. has something changed with regards to login/session in 2.2? before i could do a wget http://admin:passwd@zenoss.mydomain.com/zport/dmd/ZenEventManager/manage_addEventpasswd@zenoss.mydomain.com/zport/dmd/ZenEventManager/manage_addEvent?...... successfully, but now i get a 302 to login - even though i can login with that username/passwd manually via the login page... any ideas anyone?
[05-Sep-2008 14:42:09] <adytum-bot> fuzz_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[05-Sep-2008 15:34:13] <CamargoBP> Good morning to you all. I've been reading the Admin guide to figure out how to get the links between sites. I have 3 routers being monitored (10.4.0.1,10.8.0.1,10.3.0.1) LA, Chicago, Head Quarters. Right now they show dots on google maps, how do I get the line drawn between them so that if a link goes down it will change color?
[05-Sep-2008 15:35:55] <CamargoBP> I also just ordered Zenoss Core Network and System Monitoring by Michael Badger -- Is this a good book?
[05-Sep-2008 15:40:38] <CamargoBP> Any ideas?
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:17] <`m3> books generally suck
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:23] <`m3> dont get updated like docs do
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:32] <`m3> re: maps
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:49] <`m3> i have a feeling that zenoss doesnt know the topology
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:58] <`m3> and thats why it doesnt draw lines
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:15] <`m3> are you allowing snmp on your routers ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:21] <CamargoBP> Yep
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:30] <CamargoBP> The modeling is working
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:46] <`m3> what collectors tho
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:50] <sploozer> hey `m3
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:59] <`m3> t3h sploozer
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:08] <sploozer> `m3: I had a script back fire on me, and it wiped out all of zenoss/bin so I installed zenoss on another fedora box and just copied over those files but I believe the soft link I have on the pyton file is bad b/c I'm having all sorts of issues now, maybe I should just uinstall everything and reinstall ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:22] <`m3> jsut reinstall
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:35] <sploozer> where is the doc that tells you how to reinstall
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:36] <CamargoBP> `m3: I only have one collector. Do I need collectors at each site?
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:51] <`m3> on zenoss.com sploozer , under documentation -> admin guide
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:00] <`m3> should be the topic in here
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:07] <sploozer> i would still need to uninstall everything first right?
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:11] <`m3> CamargoBP, sorry collector plugins
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:25] <`m3> sploozer, no
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:34] <sploozer> oh
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:34] <`m3> just force install the rpm
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:43] <`m3> should put the bins back
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:51] <`m3> rpm -uvh name.rpm --force
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:59] <`m3> Uvh sorry
[05-Sep-2008 15:46:27] <sploozer> i used the .bin file though
[05-Sep-2008 15:46:59] <sploozer> hmm
[05-Sep-2008 15:47:19] <CamargoBP> `m3: Do you mean ZenPacks, or maybe I don't know what a collector plugin is?
[05-Sep-2008 15:47:39] <`m3> CamargoBP, time to hit the manual, collector plugins are important
[05-Sep-2008 15:47:55] <CamargoBP> `m3: will do I'll go take a look
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:19] <`m3> sploozer, if you dont use the machine for anything else just drop the events db, rm -fr /opt/zenoss ( or where yours is )
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:23] <`m3> et voila
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:54] <sploozer> then reinstall
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:56] <sploozer> i see
[05-Sep-2008 15:49:47] <`m3> you using some strange OS ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:49:55] <sploozer> nah, Fedora
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:03] <`m3> so just rpm yourself
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:11] <`m3> why make life hard
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:15] <sploozer> yea
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:20] <sploozer> i'll force install the rpm
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:41] <`m3> mixing bin and rpm isnt good
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:48] <`m3> i got no idea where bin installs
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:57] <sploozer> /usr/local/zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:57] <`m3> it might work but its not a good practice
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:01] <sploozer> but there maybe other place
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:04] <`m3> yeh mines all /opt/zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:11] <sploozer> where does it install mysql ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:20] <sploozer> i'm trying to start mysql
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:28] <sploozer> so I can below away the db
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:31] <sploozer> blow*
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:43] <`m3> no idea
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:46] <`m3> i dont use the bins
[05-Sep-2008 15:52:38] <`m3> i am gonna make some help pages for this stuff
[05-Sep-2008 15:53:17] <`m3> its useless to keep talking about how to get it installed there are so many other problems with actually using it
[05-Sep-2008 15:53:33] <`m3> i am tempted to get nagios v3 running side by side
[05-Sep-2008 15:53:55] <`m3> zenoss is starting to get on my nerves , it requires constant fixing up
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:18] <sploozer> i found it
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:30] <sploozer> LOL
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:33] <sploozer> interesting
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:43] <sploozer> nagios requires you to write a shit load of scripts though
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:00] <`m3> i have a 4 year old nagios v1.2 install
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:08] <`m3> uptime ~days
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:14] <`m3> 500 days
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:27] <`m3> my zenoss needs restarting twice a day
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:50] <`m3> zenoss doesnt do what i want out of the box
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:03] <`m3> there still crap loads of scripting to do for it ( for my uses )
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:13] <`m3> and pretty much all needs to be in python
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:37] <`m3> nagios is perl , its mostly already done
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:49] <`m3> there are 1000's of nagios plugins
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:55] <`m3> and it seems just less complicated
[05-Sep-2008 15:57:09] <`m3> BUT not as web2.0 and pretty , and "kool" as zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 15:57:24] <`m3> zenoss is impressive. its just (IMHO) very flaky
[05-Sep-2008 15:57:43] <`m3> nothing about it has been smooth to me, upgrades etc , all need lots of fixing up
[05-Sep-2008 15:59:07] <`m3> sorry zenoss workers, but thats how it feels
[05-Sep-2008 16:00:09] <CamargoBP> I agree the only reason I am trying to install zenoss is because it is sexy. To be completely honest Nagios does everything needed.
[05-Sep-2008 16:00:49] <`m3> well after 4-5 months and litterally 100s hours working at it , i am beginning to wonder
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:02] <`m3> but i am kinda locked in, and it needs to work period
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:18] <`m3> but as i said i think i might run nagios side by side for comparison
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:45] <sploozer> alright i blew out the events dbase and blew out the zenoss dir gonna reboot and reinstall hopefully that works
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:54] <sploozer> probably install the rpm instead this time
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:56] <`m3> sploozer, reboot not needed
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:01] <sploozer> oh
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:03] <sploozer> alright
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:07] <`m3> unless you change your kernel, you never ever need to reboot
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:18] <`m3> restart services, daeoms, processes
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:53] <sploozer> rpm -Uvh zenoss-stack-2.2.3.i386.rpm
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:56] <`m3> sploozer, make sure theres nothing running ( zenoss likes to hang around even when stopped )
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:56] <sploozer> here we go
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:02] <`m3> ps -ef | grep zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:06] <sploozer> yea
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:16] <sploozer> shit
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:26] <sploozer> looks like we got some lingering shit
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:45] <`m3> secondi
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:48] <sploozer> i have to pkill all this garbage
[05-Sep-2008 16:04:17] <sploozer> or kill -9
[05-Sep-2008 16:04:20] <CamargoBP> `m3: I have process, mem, disk, cpu and io plugins.
[05-Sep-2008 16:04:47] <`m3> sploozer, ps -ef | grep zenoss | awk {' print $1 '}
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:06] <sploozer> yea so?
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:28] <sploozer> yea zenoss is still alive
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:29] <sploozer> haha
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:33] <`m3> CamargoBP, my advice , if your monitoring cisco router use the cisco zenpack
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:55] <`m3> pastebin the output of ps -ef|grep zenoss| grep -v grep
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:56] <CamargoBP> They are Juniper
[05-Sep-2008 16:06:09] <`m3> see if you can find a juniper zenpack then
[05-Sep-2008 16:06:30] <sploozer> so your saying i shouldnt kill -9 it all?
[05-Sep-2008 16:07:31] <`m3> i want to see what processes are there sploozer
[05-Sep-2008 16:07:44] <`m3> then i can tell you ..
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:40] <sploozer> ok
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:49] <sploozer> pastebin?
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:50] <sploozer> link
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:56] <sploozer> lets see topic...
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:01] <daMaestro> sploozer, fpaste.org
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:03] <sploozer> k
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:15] <daMaestro> soooo
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:32] <daMaestro> anyone have a way to tell alerts that they need to trigger twice before sending alerts?
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:52] <`m3> daMaestro, yeh i am kind of wondering the same
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:56] <`m3> i thought of one way
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:04] <daMaestro> or is that what the "delay" option is?
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:30] <sploozer> http://fpaste.org/paste/5760
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #5760 (at fpaste.org)
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:42] <`m3> use a transform to lower it to debug on the first time ( count =1 ) and a different priority for count>1
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:50] <`m3> to daMaestro
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:51] <`m3>
[05-Sep-2008 16:11:51] <`m3> so sploozer take each pid ( the number in the 2nd column ) and do a kill -9 number
[05-Sep-2008 16:11:58] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:11:59] <`m3> dont do it for mysql etc tho
[05-Sep-2008 16:12:31] <`m3> lol what ? you didnt think i thought you were that dumb ? then how come your asking ??
[05-Sep-2008 16:13:06] <sploozer> haha
[05-Sep-2008 16:13:19] <sploozer> oh come on, this is an excellent resource
[05-Sep-2008 16:13:37] <CamargoBP> So I ran "easy_install Zenoss-Plugins" and well now zenoss is all screwed up
[05-Sep-2008 16:14:59] <CamargoBP> Does this document not say to run that command? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/zenoss-plugins/
[05-Sep-2008 16:15:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Plugins - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-Sep-2008 16:15:15] <sploozer> k installing
[05-Sep-2008 16:18:40] <sploozer> when you install using the rpm what password does it use to login to mysql since it doenst prompt you.....looks like i get this...http://fpaste.org/paste/5761
[05-Sep-2008 16:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #5761 (at fpaste.org)
[05-Sep-2008 16:19:20] <`m3> you know the password ?
[05-Sep-2008 16:20:06] <sploozer> looks like its using zenoss, i'll have to change that
[05-Sep-2008 16:20:30] <daMaestro> `m3, hmm
[05-Sep-2008 16:20:41] <daMaestro> `m3, i'm going to go read the alerting logic
[05-Sep-2008 16:21:01] <sploozer> doesnt look like it kicked off mysql
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:00] <`m3> sploozer, it wants an empty root password
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:19] <`m3> daMaestro, its a crappy solution
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:22] <sploozer> i already changed it....its a socket issue
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:23] <sploozer> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/usr/local/zenoss/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:26] <`m3> it should be in as a design feature
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:42] <sploozer> i need to kick off the mysqld
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:20] <sploozer> didnt have this issue when I ran the .bin
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:21] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:39] <`m3> you are trying to use a complex system without learning it
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:46] <`m3> and failing gloriously
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:18] <`m3> take a little time to learn about mysql, zenoss ,snmp
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:25] <`m3> and its really not so hard at all.
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:34] <sploozer> i know mysql pretty well
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:40] <`m3> i can tell
[05-Sep-2008 16:25:00] <sploozer> by default it allowed me to run mysqld as root prior
[05-Sep-2008 16:25:19] <sploozer> i did not have to give the grant all command
[05-Sep-2008 16:25:43] <`m3> you dont use yum to manage software ?
[05-Sep-2008 16:26:07] <`m3> if i install mysql from fedora using yum it gets setup properly
[05-Sep-2008 16:26:39] <sploozer> yea I use yum, but mysql was not install previously zenoss packaged it and installed
[05-Sep-2008 16:26:42] <sploozer> make sense?
[05-Sep-2008 16:27:23] <sploozer> i'll just install mysql outside of zenoss and yes it gets setup fine, i saw all the dependencies were packaged so I figured i'd give it a shot
[05-Sep-2008 16:27:27] <sploozer> i was skeptical
[05-Sep-2008 16:27:48] <`m3> it pays to be
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:04] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:09] <`m3> zenoss "stack" as people call it installs it all
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:26] <`m3> the zenoss rpms expect that mysql has no root pass set
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:40] <`m3> and it sets up the zenoss user as root
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:39] <sploozer> well
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:40] <sploozer> ha
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:44] <sploozer> thats kinda funny
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:53] <sploozer> poor desigin
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:59] <`m3> i mean it goes in as root and creates the zenoss user etc
[05-Sep-2008 16:31:31] <`m3> zenoss gets on my nerves too. its very hands on and requires much messing about with
[05-Sep-2008 16:32:08] <sploozer> `m3: i do appreciate your help though, a human resource always beats everything else
[05-Sep-2008 16:32:48] <`m3> want my paypal ? lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:32:52] <`m3> i am poor
[05-Sep-2008 16:33:13] <`m3> and a resource sounds like a job
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:00] <sploozer> weird that you say tha tabout the root password when the bin file asks what your want the root password to be
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:00] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:13] <sploozer> i'll be back later
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:15] <sploozer> thanks
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:15] <`m3> i said rpms
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:27] <sploozer> yea i know
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:48] <sploozer> i'llbe back
[05-Sep-2008 17:11:19] <CamargoBP> How do I get rid of the annoying: network 'default' not in topology
[05-Sep-2008 17:40:43] <telexicon> i dont think ive ever found an answer to that
[05-Sep-2008 17:40:48] <telexicon> theres a bunch of stuff like tha
[05-Sep-2008 17:40:50] <telexicon> that*
[05-Sep-2008 18:02:36] <`m3> CamargoBP, thats the router not giving zenoss the default routes
[05-Sep-2008 18:02:46] <`m3> it cant work out the topology of the network
[05-Sep-2008 18:03:34] <`m3> make sure you have the collector plugins something like snmp default route plugin
[05-Sep-2008 18:03:48] <CamargoBP> Hmm
[05-Sep-2008 18:03:54] <`m3> i cant see my zenoss box from here so iam remembering from memory, badly
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:05] <`m3> i have the same issue
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:25] <`m3> but the network dudes need decide on things and incorporate it into templates
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:30] <`m3> not an install fix ;(
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:39] <CamargoBP> I think I do. What happened I had zenoss autodiscover my routers and it added a whole bunch of networks.
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:51] <CamargoBP> I'm adding in the MIBS for the routers to see if that will help
[05-Sep-2008 18:05:37] <`m3> so much confusion
[05-Sep-2008 18:05:53] <`m3> mibs wont help, autodiscover wont help without the right collector plugins
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:25] <CamargoBP> Hmmm. So my SNMP plugins don't work?
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:38] <`m3> they do work yes
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:41] <CamargoBP> It modeled the device
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:45] <`m3> ( probably )
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:53] <`m3> but think about the issue you have
[05-Sep-2008 18:07:05] <`m3> even better , any time you get an error message , blam it into google
[05-Sep-2008 18:07:14] <`m3> thats where i found out how to fix it too
[05-Sep-2008 18:26:49] <patLuvsMahBoneJu> in a distributed install, graph options are posted to zenrender on the collector, which generates the rrd graph and returns it to the browser, correct?
[05-Sep-2008 19:45:44] <krphop> are there any large issues that i will run into if i start changing the RRD average archive settings with zenoss?
[05-Sep-2008 19:46:15] <krphop> for example, instead of keeping 5 minute data back 2 days, 30 minute data back 12 days, 12 hour data back 300 days etc etc
[05-Sep-2008 19:46:38] <krphop> i'd like to change it to 1m data back 1 day, 5m data back 7 days, 30m data back 30 days, etc
[05-Sep-2008 21:01:56] <sn1ffer72> WTF... the zenoos VMWare appliance running centos does not even come with the RPM, Up2date or Yum commands
[05-Sep-2008 21:15:24] <nick_v> krphop: I keep 90 days of 5min averages for 160 devices (20k SNMP OIDs) and the only issue is the disk access speed and disk usage. My pef directory is around 12G in side.
[05-Sep-2008 21:16:53] <krphop> i was more wondering if it would cause issues with the UI, like i'm not sure how zenoss uses rrdtool graph to generate graphs when you select different time periods (like hourly, daily, weekly, etc)
[05-Sep-2008 21:33:37] <krphop> nick_v: what are you running for harddrives
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:03] <nick_v> You can configure the RRD settings under the collectors tab, and Zenoss has no issues with it.
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:31] <krphop> ok
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:53] <krphop> i have it set to 1m for 7 days, 5m for 30 days, 30m for 6 months, 12 hour for 5 years
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:56] <krphop> and it KILLS my hdd
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:03] <nick_v> For hard drives we use a PERC raid controller with 3 10K rpm SAS drives.
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:19] <krphop> raid5?
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:35] <nick_v> yep
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:54] <nick_v> It's actually on an VMware ESX
[05-Sep-2008 22:13:57] <CamargoBP> I've disabled the SNMP checker for a device but it still wants to check SNMP any ideas?
[05-Sep-2008 22:33:29] <nemo_> zproperties snmpignore true
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[08-Sep-2008 01:27:16] <CamargoBP_> Good evening. I'm guessing no one is on tonight?
[08-Sep-2008 01:28:31] <CamargoBP_> Well I guess I'm logged in at work too. That's why I have an _ after my name.
[08-Sep-2008 01:57:45] <CamargoBP_> So I have followed the tutorial on pages 46 & 46 of the Zenoss Admin guide and I can't get the line drawn between devices. What's up?
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[08-Sep-2008 09:30:29] <cocolo> mates, I have installed snmp on Centos5 test to get discovered by zenoss, but zenoss doesn't show any info after "Networks | Discover devices"
[08-Sep-2008 09:30:52] <cocolo> ... yes, firewall off
[08-Sep-2008 09:34:55] <nemo_> have you tried to snmpwalk a device from the same machine ?
[08-Sep-2008 10:41:18] <cocolo> after a `snmpwalk -Os -c public -v Centostest system` from the zenoss server, I got this "sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux Centostest 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5xen", but no luck on zenoss info after the discovery
[08-Sep-2008 11:29:11] <nemo_> morning
[08-Sep-2008 14:15:32] <nemo_> made my first zenpack ;0
[08-Sep-2008 14:48:55] <imcdona> Why do regular expressions sometimes turn RED when I am working on mapping events?
[08-Sep-2008 14:52:16] <imcdona> NM found it: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/001409.html It will turn red if it does not match what is in the example section
[08-Sep-2008 14:58:09] <nemo_> yup
[08-Sep-2008 17:25:18] <CamargoBP> Okay! So I have changed the zProperies to several servers and have disabled the SNMP checking, however I still get events saying that the SNMP agent is down. Yes I have removed all the zenoss.snmp.* collectorPlugins. Any ideas?
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:12] <CamargoBP> I am also trying to get the SSH keys to work. I have logged in as the zenoss user and am able to do an ssh root@* without any passwords.
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:27] <`m3> zenoss@ works better
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:35] <`m3> being as its zenoss doing it
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:41] <CamargoBP> I thought it needed to be root?
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:54] <`m3> zenoss can su to root is my understanding
[08-Sep-2008 17:28:13] <CamargoBP> Interesting.
[08-Sep-2008 17:32:31] <CamargoBP> Do you happen to know what log will log the attempt to ssh into a box?
[08-Sep-2008 17:34:31] <`m3> yes i do
[08-Sep-2008 17:35:14] <CamargoBP> Is it under /zenoss/log?
[08-Sep-2008 17:35:39] <`m3> /var/log/secure
[08-Sep-2008 17:35:59] <`m3> zenoss/log/events.log might contain something about it too
[08-Sep-2008 17:36:19] <`m3> /var/log/secure or messages are standards with linux tho
[08-Sep-2008 17:36:35] <CamargoBP> I tailed that log but it didn't have any information about ssh
[08-Sep-2008 17:36:48] <`m3> try grepping not tailing
[08-Sep-2008 17:37:00] <`m3> tail only gives you last n lines
[08-Sep-2008 17:37:29] <CamargoBP> Well I used tail -f /zenoss/log/events.log then modled the device
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:05] <`m3> fairynuff
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:28] <CamargoBP>
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:40] <`m3> i made a zenpack today
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:45] <`m3> fear !
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:15] <CamargoBP> So I looked in the /var/log/secure and found that the last attempted login was my test on the server about 2 hours ago.
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:29] <CamargoBP> You did! What does your zenpack do?
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:49] <`m3> adds a new performance template for apc pdus
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:58] <CamargoBP> Nice
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:04] <`m3> to graph the load and generate warnings at 90 / 100% used
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:28] <CamargoBP> Does it include the MIBS, I am assuming you are using SNMP
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:39] <`m3> mib mib mib
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:43] <`m3> it is mibless
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:46] <`m3>
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:59] <`m3> mibs are a total redherring , really.
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:03] <CamargoBP> I meant MIBs
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:06] <CamargoBP>
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:11] <Garnica> Hi people....
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:22] <`m3> MIBs/mib same thing
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:23] <Garnica> APC UPS ??
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:30] <`m3> pdu Garnica
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:31] <CamargoBP> I've found them useful to change the OID into real meaning for me
[08-Sep-2008 17:44:16] <CamargoBP> `m3: Zenoss is driving me insane!!! All those user testimonials saying " I was up and running in a few hours" I'm guessing they got paid lots of money to say that because I've spent hours, hours and hours....
[08-Sep-2008 17:44:17] <Garnica> I've got some mibs for APC UPS I don't know if apply the same for PDU's
[08-Sep-2008 17:45:36] <`m3> CamargoBP, your struggling with some linux, python , zope
[08-Sep-2008 17:46:09] <`m3> http://h214010.upc-h.chello.nl/graph1.png
[08-Sep-2008 17:46:16] <`m3> sexy graph wew
[08-Sep-2008 17:47:46] <`m3> CamargoBP, i feel it too, had no reason to know python before zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 17:47:56] <Garnica> I want to get a device availability using any command ( hopefully python ) ... any idea ?
[08-Sep-2008 17:48:26] <CamargoBP> You know I've run nagios since oh lets see 2004.
[08-Sep-2008 17:48:39] <`m3> plenty of zenoss / zendmd py examples on the zenoss site / forum Garnica
[08-Sep-2008 17:48:51] <CamargoBP> It just works great! Never had these types of learning curves but Zenoss is sexy to management.
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:11] <`m3> CamargoBP, i got zenoss doing much more than nagios
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:31] <`m3> nagios was a pain to add things etc
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:39] <`m3> all done by hand or add on GUI
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:48] <CamargoBP> True
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:03] <`m3> but i have my days where the amount of love zenoss needs is too much
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:11] <`m3> every day i find more shit to fix
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:21] <CamargoBP> You know I spent all weekend reading their 280 page admin guide and it didn't really help all that much.
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:30] <`m3> it does help
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:41] <`m3> you need to read it in context to problems
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:44] <`m3> read the logs etc
[08-Sep-2008 17:52:11] <`m3> most newbs dont have a clue that zenoss isnt running off apache
[08-Sep-2008 17:52:17] <`m3> its no wonder people struggle
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:08] <CamargoBP> I know its running using ZOPE and I like that fact.
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:10] <`m3> that might be a design fault of zenoss tho, maybe people dont want to keep editing stuff and reading logs
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:39] <`m3> i hate the fact you get a stack trace instead of an error msg for almost anything]
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:58] <magnachef> me too
[08-Sep-2008 17:54:31] <`m3> i mean i know its made of python and zope, but i wish i didnt have to care.
[08-Sep-2008 17:54:44] <`m3> fair enough for transforms etc
[08-Sep-2008 17:54:55] <CamargoBP> You know I tried their example on pages 45 & 46 of the admin guide and it doesn't work.
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:00] <`m3> but not reading stack traces and whatever
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:11] <`m3> whats that then CamargoBP , the subject
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:14] <CamargoBP> I like the stac traces.
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:28] <CamargoBP> Google Maps Example
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:35] <adytum-bot> http://www.december.com/html/demo/imagemap.html
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:40] <`m3> oh it works ok for me
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:13] <CamargoBP> Really it draws a line between the two sites?
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:20] <`m3> topology
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:31] <`m3> if you got errors about topology thats the problem
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:41] <CamargoBP> Hmmm let me check
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:00] <`m3> zenoss knows it can speak to device X in another network, but if it doesnt know how it got there , it wont draw it
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:03] <CamargoBP> Yep I do network 'default' not in topology
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:11] <`m3> google on solving that
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:15] <CamargoBP> Yep
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:18] <adytum-bot> http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-02-13-college-allstars_N.htm
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:36] <`m3> this bot has lost it
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:45] <CamargoBP> I think so
[08-Sep-2008 18:13:25] <sj7trunks> wow there be peeps talkin here
[08-Sep-2008 18:28:01] <roadies> none of my interfaces are showing performance statistics, what is missing
[08-Sep-2008 18:28:53] <sj7trunks> roadies are you getting perf graphs for everything else?
[08-Sep-2008 18:29:32] <roadies> sj7trunks: looking
[08-Sep-2008 18:30:09] <sj7trunks> roadies so if you drop the servers into /devices/server class it should start graphing
[08-Sep-2008 18:31:20] <roadies> sj7trunks: Perf tab on all devices doesnt show anything including a graph
[08-Sep-2008 18:31:28] <sj7trunks> yeah
[08-Sep-2008 18:32:02] <sj7trunks> try moving them to a new class instead of /devices/discovered or whatnot
[08-Sep-2008 18:35:48] <roadies> sj7trunks: all the linux routers are in /device/network/router and servers are in /device/server/linux....so I didnt move anything
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:44] <sj7trunks> canice
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:48] <sj7trunks> err
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:51] <sj7trunks> nice
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:56] <roadies> sj7trunks: ok just a silly question.... does one have to have the perf chart displaying before statistics is collected and then displayed......
[08-Sep-2008 18:38:08] <sj7trunks> did you play with any kind of templating yet?
[08-Sep-2008 18:38:16] <sj7trunks> you can bind templates to a group
[08-Sep-2008 18:38:27] <sj7trunks> actually the graphs pop up when you bind templates to a group
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:17] <roadies> have not played with templates at all, only configured device list
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:29] <sj7trunks> okay so lets try this
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:43] <sj7trunks> go to /devices/server/linux
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:51] <sj7trunks> click templates
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:58] <sj7trunks> you'll see available perf templates
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:05] <sj7trunks> to the left of that is a down click box
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:10] <sj7trunks> click on that and go bind templates
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:35] <sj7trunks> should be able to select /device/server/linux and click OK
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:51] <roadies> sj7trunks: working it
[08-Sep-2008 18:43:47] <sn1ffer72> go figure.. this "zenhub" process stopped again
[08-Sep-2008 18:43:52] <sn1ffer72> and will not restar
[08-Sep-2008 18:43:52] <sn1ffer72> t
[08-Sep-2008 18:44:13] <sn1ffer72> this is like my 4th install/configuration
[08-Sep-2008 18:44:26] <sn1ffer72> I used the Zenoss VMWare appliance
[08-Sep-2008 18:46:21] <sn1ffer72> ok.. who knows how to keep the old zenhub running?
[08-Sep-2008 18:46:54] <roadies> sj7trunks: so I clicked bind templates and select devices/services ....what next
[08-Sep-2008 18:47:28] <sj7trunks> /devices/server/Linux right?
[08-Sep-2008 18:48:20] <roadies> I believe so
[08-Sep-2008 18:49:12] <roadies> that is I did /devices/servers/linux then the pull down to get the bind template pop, the select /devices/servers in the popup
[08-Sep-2008 18:50:33] <sj7trunks> what other templates were there to select
[08-Sep-2008 18:50:42] <sj7trunks> i was talkig about the /devices/servers/linux template within that group
[08-Sep-2008 18:51:52] <CamargoBP> Well I happen to be using Juniper SSG5 which Zenoss has problems mapping the topology with. http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3276
[08-Sep-2008 18:52:11] <CamargoBP> Great!
[08-Sep-2008 18:54:02] <roadies> I didn't see a template specific to linux just 2 for ether, 1 for Ip, 1 for server, 1 for win, and OS
[08-Sep-2008 18:55:31] <sj7trunks> hrmm thats not good
[08-Sep-2008 18:57:02] <sj7trunks> the graphs i use are from that template
[08-Sep-2008 18:58:24] <roadies> sj7trunks: I need check out here, so let me go off and look into the template thing and all I did was install zenoss and started device list configuring things so I guess more has to be turned on
[08-Sep-2008 18:58:33] <sj7trunks> cool
[08-Sep-2008 19:39:20] <sj7trunks> so i have a server that isn't inheriting the templates i set for the group... is there a way to reset the server to inherit templates again?
[08-Sep-2008 19:45:11] <sn1ffer72> anyone on "zenhub"?
[08-Sep-2008 19:46:20] <`m3> sn1ffer72, did you google on the last bit of the stack trace in zenhub log ?
[08-Sep-2008 19:47:20] <sn1ffer72> I would but the log file is empty
[08-Sep-2008 19:47:26] <sn1ffer72> all other daemons are running fine
[08-Sep-2008 19:52:33] <sj7trunks> yay fixed my issue
[08-Sep-2008 19:56:24] <sn1ffer72> I just restarted all services from the CLI
[08-Sep-2008 19:56:28] <sn1ffer72> still no log for zenhub
[08-Sep-2008 19:56:59] <sn1ffer72> i did read somewhere that someone said to delete the zenhub-1.zec
[08-Sep-2008 19:57:04] <sn1ffer72> and then restart everything
[08-Sep-2008 19:57:08] <sn1ffer72> anyone else heard that?
[08-Sep-2008 19:59:37] <sj7trunks> you can always try that
[08-Sep-2008 19:59:46] <sj7trunks> i basically just move the file to another directory and restart
[08-Sep-2008 20:06:31] <Garnica> sn1ffer72: have you tried to run zenhub in debbug mode ? 'zenhub run start'
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> [zenoss@marma-xlfariaa var]$ zenhub run start
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 417, in ?
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> z = ZenHub()
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 185, in __init__
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:06] <sn1ffer72> ZCmdBase.__init__(self)
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:08] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/ZCmdBase.py", line 55, in __init__
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:10] <sn1ffer72> self.zeoConnect()
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:12] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 233, in zeoConnect
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:14] <sn1ffer72> cache_size=self.options.pcachesize*1024*1024)
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:16] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/marc/conary/zenoss-project/builds/zope2/_ROOT_/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 314, in __init__
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:19] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/marc/conary/zenoss-project/builds/zope2/_ROOT_/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 112, in open
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:19] <`m3> pastebin!!
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:22] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/marc/conary/zenoss-project/builds/zope2/_ROOT_/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 833, in scan
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:25] <sn1ffer72> AssertionError
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:36] <sn1ffer72> that was a paste for sure
[08-Sep-2008 20:08:21] <sn1ffer72> ok.. since that debug start did not work
[08-Sep-2008 20:08:33] <sn1ffer72> I did move that zenhub-1.zec file to /tmp
[08-Sep-2008 20:08:42] <sn1ffer72> then ran zenhub start and it started
[08-Sep-2008 20:21:47] <CamargoBP> `m3: You know I have googled network 'default' not in topology why can't I find anything to fix it?
[08-Sep-2008 20:23:50] <`m3> lol
[08-Sep-2008 20:23:51] <`m3> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=485&sid=ad3ffd86738d9a0ffa6bae75ee15f139
[08-Sep-2008 20:24:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - what does this mean ?network ' not in topology (at community.zenoss.com)
[08-Sep-2008 20:24:11] <`m3> first hit in google for not in topology +zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 20:25:28] <CamargoBP> I've read that. I get it but. Here is the issue. My zenoss is on 10.3.1.x and the gateway is 10.3.0.x I've looked at the routes under the OS tab. I think everything looks alright
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:19] <`m3> if you got that stuff in your logs
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:22] <CamargoBP> Maybe a second pair of eyes would help: http://pastebin.com/m4745d7ae
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:26] <`m3> it can mean only one thing
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:29] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Sep-2008 20:32:31] <CamargoBP> New one: http://pastebin.com/m5be6270f
[08-Sep-2008 20:32:38] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Sep-2008 20:33:35] <CamargoBP> `m3: This was all auto discovered.
[08-Sep-2008 20:34:50] <`m3> CamargoBP, kinda hard to say. zenoss is snmp collecting from your router
[08-Sep-2008 20:34:58] <`m3> and you still have this topology issue
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:05] <CamargoBP> Yep
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:07] <CamargoBP> SNMP
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:35] <CamargoBP> It collects a whole lot of data. all 17 interfaces
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:59] <CamargoBP> but only provides 2 routes because only 2 interfaces are used
[08-Sep-2008 20:37:07] <CamargoBP> You wouldn't mind pasting a route that works that you have setup (masking anything important of course) I'd like to figure out if I can add a manual route and maybe that will work?
[08-Sep-2008 20:37:28] <CamargoBP> You don't have too of course.
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:02] <`m3> i have this problem the same as you
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:13] <`m3> but i cant have snmp access yet to the routers
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:14] <CamargoBP> Yeah?
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:26] <`m3> yup
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:49] <CamargoBP> So I think this is what is causing the "default' not in topology
[08-Sep-2008 20:41:01] <CamargoBP> Wait a minute. I might have it fixed.
[08-Sep-2008 20:47:58] <`m3> suspense is killing me ...
[08-Sep-2008 20:48:17] <CamargoBP> Wait for it, I'm still testing.
[08-Sep-2008 20:52:04] <CamargoBP> Eh never mind
[08-Sep-2008 20:55:37] <`m3> well if snmp doesnt fix it for me, i know who to come to ..
[08-Sep-2008 20:55:55] <`m3> you will be the master of the not in topology error
[08-Sep-2008 20:56:11] <`m3> deleting the devices and re-adding them might work
[08-Sep-2008 20:56:12] <CamargoBP> You are hoping
[08-Sep-2008 20:57:08] <`m3> a good enough way to reset the topology, if you dont mind losing the perf data and history
[08-Sep-2008 20:57:34] <CamargoBP> I'm trying something new (again)
[08-Sep-2008 21:02:19] <CamargoBP> Nice now I am getting Event: '10.3.1.40 sendto error Host Zenoss and zenoss.xx.com are both using ip 10.3.1.40'
[08-Sep-2008 21:03:57] <`m3> ah yes
[08-Sep-2008 21:04:11] <`m3> ive seen that, true tho in my case
[08-Sep-2008 21:04:43] <`m3> got a feeling if you did a new install it wont allow such dupes
[08-Sep-2008 21:05:05] <`m3> did you upgrade?
[08-Sep-2008 21:05:36] <CamargoBP> Nope brand new RPM install last week
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:01] <CamargoBP> Now mu google map locations is throwing a Zenoss Error
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:13] <CamargoBP> KeyError: '10.8.0.1'
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:49] <CamargoBP> I've never been able to get rid of a KeyError before. Ahhh!
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:58] <CamargoBP> I've had to re-install
[08-Sep-2008 21:07:04] <`m3> extrme
[08-Sep-2008 21:08:43] <`m3> you could just delete cache files and restart zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:08:54] <`m3> not in that order but ..
[08-Sep-2008 21:09:34] <CamargoBP> yeah I've tried that.
[08-Sep-2008 21:09:53] <CamargoBP> I think I may know what is causing it.
[08-Sep-2008 21:12:06] <CamargoBP> Where is the cache located on the OS? I've just used the clear geocode link
[08-Sep-2008 21:12:49] <`m3> dont know what that is
[08-Sep-2008 21:13:13] <CamargoBP> What did you mean by delete cache files?
[08-Sep-2008 21:13:23] <CamargoBP> I don't know where they are.
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:19] <`m3> .zec files
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:37] <CamargoBP> Hmmm... I'll give it a go.
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:41] <`m3> zenoss stop && find /opt/zenoss -iregex .*zec$ | xargs rm -f ; zenoss start
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:47] <`m3> something along those lines
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:06] <CamargoBP> I see you have done this before
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:40] <`m3> i run this twice a day
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:47] <CamargoBP> do you run that as root or zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:50] <`m3> well not exactley the same
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:54] <`m3> always as zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:16:11] <`m3> i also kill of processes that didnt die when zenoss stopped
[08-Sep-2008 21:20:35] <CamargoBP> Is there a way to re model the whole network or wipe that cache?
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:08] <`m3> you could just delete all devices , then the network/s
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:14] <`m3> and re-discover them
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:29] <`m3> try a c class first maybe
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:33] <CamargoBP> Yeah the problem lies with they are /16 and /14 networks
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:48] <CamargoBP> Yep
[08-Sep-2008 21:24:55] <CamargoBP> I've removed all my networks
[08-Sep-2008 21:25:10] <CamargoBP> now I get a KeyError: '192.168.122.0'
[08-Sep-2008 21:26:49] <`m3> does it carry on tho ?
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:23] <CamargoBP> Wow!
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:28] <CamargoBP> Just WOW!
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:35] <CamargoBP> I would have never figured out this one
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:43] <CamargoBP> Bookmarking
[08-Sep-2008 21:30:21] <CamargoBP> read what domint had to say: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24262
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[08-Sep-2008 21:32:10] <`m3> ive done that before, but then i found lack of snmp was not solving my topology
[08-Sep-2008 21:32:50] <CamargoBP> Hmmm...
[08-Sep-2008 21:33:14] <CamargoBP> I'm just glad I didn't have to re-install again!
[08-Sep-2008 21:36:25] <CamargoBP> Wahooooo! Locations with lines are working!
[08-Sep-2008 21:36:35] <CamargoBP> Nice!
[08-Sep-2008 21:37:43] * `m3 claps
[08-Sep-2008 21:38:29] <CamargoBP> Now to see if I can get VPN over WAN to show a link between sites.
[08-Sep-2008 21:40:15] <CamargoBP> So here is what I did. Deleted all networks. Disabled auto discovery. Modeled my routers (3 of them) Then modeled some of my servers. Viola magic. Some devices were modeled with SNMP and some with SSH logins (not the key logins that's my next goal after VPN)
[08-Sep-2008 21:41:05] <pudland_> i cant login in to web gui. please help
[08-Sep-2008 21:41:57] <CamargoBP> admin zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:42:17] <CamargoBP> pudland_: Did you try username admin and password zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:42:55] <pudland_> just did and thanks. ubuntuguide didnt say that:-(. thanks, im in!!
[08-Sep-2008 21:43:28] <pudland_> this chat is going "auto-join on connect"
[08-Sep-2008 21:47:32] <`m3> this is your karma CamargoBP
[08-Sep-2008 21:47:59] <CamargoBP>
[08-Sep-2008 22:00:30] <Omar> a
[08-Sep-2008 22:34:13] <CamargoBP> Fake VPN was a cinch.
[08-Sep-2008 22:34:19] <CamargoBP> Now on to ssh keys
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[09-Sep-2008 00:12:43] <sploozer> `m3: wut up
[09-Sep-2008 00:12:59] <sploozer> anyone here using a readynas 1100?
[09-Sep-2008 00:52:09] <churchmedic> hello -
[09-Sep-2008 00:53:06] <churchmedic> im hoping someone can help direct me perhaps to a location for documentation where I can do a network discovery like a ping sweep
[09-Sep-2008 00:53:09] <churchmedic> on a new install
[09-Sep-2008 03:03:15] <imcdona> does anyone review tickets? http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3666 it's been sitting for 9 days
[09-Sep-2008 03:07:51] <imcdona> anyone view this channel for that matter?
[09-Sep-2008 04:14:12] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - netaddr Python Library - 27 Aug, 10:03PM
[09-Sep-2008 04:14:13] <adytum-bot> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=209
[09-Sep-2008 06:50:50] <]V[> Morning all
[09-Sep-2008 06:51:51] <]V[> Just wondering (yes i tried google beforehand) can i have Zenoss alerts via RSS or UDP or even just in a plain log file ? it seems i can only select mail or page in the alert editor
[09-Sep-2008 06:53:48] <]V[> imcdona: yes i do but it seems an awfully idle channel ;-) had some help though. just hang tough ;-)
[09-Sep-2008 06:59:42] <imcdona> have zenoss send mail to an local linux account....then use procmail to write it to a log file....
[09-Sep-2008 06:59:49] <imcdona> its a crude hack but it would work.....
[09-Sep-2008 07:00:11] <]V[> nice, never thought of that
[09-Sep-2008 07:00:13] <]V[> Thanks
[09-Sep-2008 07:00:21] <imcdona> better yet...just have it go to a local linux account and cat the mail file cat /var/spool/mail/user
[09-Sep-2008 07:37:21] <MrTux> somebody here from the zenoss team? is there a place to submit feature requests?
[09-Sep-2008 07:43:27] <]V[> thanks a lot imcdona , that way i can tail -f the file to my todup.py plugin. hopefully i will get nice notifications in my chat ;-)
[09-Sep-2008 07:43:37] <]V[> toudp.py even
[09-Sep-2008 08:34:54] <imcdona> I am connected via IPV6 whoo hoo!
[09-Sep-2008 14:06:14] <imcdona> kk
[09-Sep-2008 14:43:29] <CamargoBP> Good morning all! Has anyone ever setup the SSH keys? I've have but while tailing the /var/log/secure while modeling the device and there is no attempted login. Any clue to as why?
[09-Sep-2008 14:47:37] <nemo_> are you using the user zenoss
[09-Sep-2008 14:47:46] <CamargoBP> yes
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:09] <sj7trunks> heh
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:18] <sj7trunks> camargoBP any success?
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:30] <CamargoBP> With ssh keys
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:31] <CamargoBP> nope
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:57] <CamargoBP> I've found that ssh-agent might be the problem. It's not starting up when zenoss runs the command
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:59] <sj7trunks> go to the machine and click the drop down box next to status and look for zproperties
[09-Sep-2008 16:56:17] <CamargoBP> K
[09-Sep-2008 16:56:40] <CamargoBP> I'm there
[09-Sep-2008 16:57:21] <sj7trunks> alright so there is zCommandProtocol zCommandUsername
[09-Sep-2008 16:57:29] <sj7trunks> zCommandPassword
[09-Sep-2008 16:57:40] <sj7trunks> all setup correctly?
[09-Sep-2008 16:58:59] <CamargoBP> ssh, root, and no password is needed since I am using zKeyPath = ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[09-Sep-2008 16:59:15] <sj7trunks> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1/ch09s13.html
[09-Sep-2008 16:59:25] <sj7trunks> then click edit on zCollectorPlugins
[09-Sep-2008 16:59:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:08] <CamargoBP> I have that all setup correctly
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:11] <`m3> CamargoBP, i told you , user zenoss not root
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:30] <CamargoBP> `m3: It doesn't work either way
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:53] <CamargoBP> It doesn't even try to establish the connection
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:01] <`m3> well only trying to help, my zcommands work ok
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:21] <CamargoBP> without
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:25] <`m3> at least if zenoss is setup right you can investigate other options
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:33] <CamargoBP> without zCommandPassword?
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:38] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP try to use it without the rsa/dsa key
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:44] <`m3> no. i am not even sure that works
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:47] <`m3> i am using the passwords
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:52] <`m3> does it work with a password ?
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:58] <CamargoBP> It works if I type in the password and don't use the rsa/dsa key
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:13] <sj7trunks> okay so thats progress
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:16] <`m3> i think its not fully implemented maybe
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:17] <CamargoBP> but management wants me to use the rsa/dsa key
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:23] <sj7trunks> thats fine
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:31] <sj7trunks> have you tried a blank password rsa/dsa key?
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:43] <CamargoBP> Nope haven't tried that
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:52] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP this is all part of troubleshooting, doesn't mean it'll be the production release;)
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:53] <CamargoBP> let me generate one now
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:59] <`m3> CamargoBP, try a full path to id_rsa
[09-Sep-2008 17:04:50] <CamargoBP> tried full path. I get a trackback error
[09-Sep-2008 17:05:19] <`m3> whats in the stack trace, at the end
[09-Sep-2008 17:06:12] <CamargoBP> http://pastebin.com/m55a7ba3b
[09-Sep-2008 17:06:19] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[09-Sep-2008 17:07:41] <`m3> who knows, you know my feelings on stack traces vs error messages
[09-Sep-2008 17:08:19] <`m3> it kind hints that it almost worked tho ... line 195 in dataRecieved
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:08] <CamargoBP> But the other end, the server I am trying to connect to, logs don't show an attempted connection.
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:28] <`m3> theres not much easy advice to offer
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:39] <`m3> i know what i would do if i was there in your network
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:59] <`m3> but .... basic application trouble shooting is a big subject
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:12] <`m3> i am not convinced its a zenoss issue
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:36] <CamargoBP> I'm sure its not
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:40] <sj7trunks> i agree with m3;)
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:45] <`m3> i take it you can ssh out to the client machine from your zenoss box ( as zenoss -> zenoss@client )
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:59] <CamargoBP> I think it is : ssh-agent /bin/bash
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:05] <CamargoBP> Not being loaded
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:21] <`m3> ssh agent is for x apps isnt it ?
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:25] <CamargoBP> as long as I run this command before: ssh-agent /bin/bash
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:40] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP... we'll use it with blank password first
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:49] <CamargoBP> ssh-agent is for keys
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:50] <sj7trunks> i'm sure zenoss doesn't source any bashrc scripts
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:05] <`m3> CamargoBP, sorry i am think ssh ask pass
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:18] <`m3> should be running ssh agent everytime !
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:24] <`m3> shouldnt**
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:45] <CamargoBP> onlyonce. It's a wrapper. I'm going to try and wrap Zenoss in it.
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:04] <`m3> i repeat my question from before
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:09] <`m3> i take it you can ssh out to the client machine from your zenoss box ( as zenoss -> zenoss@client )
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:15] <`m3> passwordless
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:16] <CamargoBP> yep
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:19] <CamargoBP> yep
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:37] <`m3> ok, and with a password it works ok
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:52] <`m3> id read the code and check what your expecting actually works
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:54] <CamargoBP> yep
[09-Sep-2008 17:14:20] <`m3> i might have missed it, but it looks like a fairly new zproperty
[09-Sep-2008 17:14:50] <`m3> im gonna test this stuff out with keys
[09-Sep-2008 17:14:52] <CamargoBP> I didn't know that.
[09-Sep-2008 17:16:41] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossannouncement.2007-10-04.4287104324
[09-Sep-2008 17:16:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Core 2.1 Beta 2.0.92 Available for Download - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Sep-2008 17:16:59] <sj7trunks> you set your passphrase in the zcommandpassword box
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:17] <CamargoBP> No way!
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:26] <sj7trunks> yes way
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:41] <CamargoBP> That's what were trying to get away from since the zope database stores everything in clear text
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:46] <CamargoBP> Argh!
[09-Sep-2008 17:18:53] <`m3> that does suck
[09-Sep-2008 17:28:34] <CamargoBP> Well I used an empty password
[09-Sep-2008 17:28:39] <CamargoBP> It worked
[09-Sep-2008 17:29:14] <`m3> so what changed from working to non working?
[09-Sep-2008 17:29:29] <`m3> or vica versa
[09-Sep-2008 17:30:01] <sj7trunks> `m3 he's trying to make it work with passphrases stored in ssh-agent rather than zenoss
[09-Sep-2008 17:30:14] <sj7trunks> "trying to step outside the scope of the programming"
[09-Sep-2008 17:30:42] <`m3> well its one thing to know your doing it
[09-Sep-2008 17:31:57] <CamargoBP> Well I regenerated a key without a password and then uploaded the .pub key to the remote server copied it into the authorized_keys and then it worked
[09-Sep-2008 17:32:01] <CamargoBP> That's all I changed
[09-Sep-2008 17:58:13] <`m3> ok makes sense
[09-Sep-2008 18:16:29] <sj7trunks> is there a way to apply an osprocesses group to a class rather than a server
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[09-Sep-2008 18:53:19] <sj7trunks> weird that i'm looking for something thats like the hybrid of osprocesses and templating
[09-Sep-2008 18:55:23] <Bam22e> Hi. Anyone willing the tell me a few things about Zenoss?
[09-Sep-2008 18:57:00] <Bam22e> I was just wondering whether it would be suitable for introducing into a Windows environment, could it find out all the computers and their software etc...
[09-Sep-2008 18:57:28] <sj7trunks> bam22e yes it supports that
[09-Sep-2008 18:58:10] <Bam22e> Uses wmi, no agents required? How about the Linux boxes, you need agents or something for them?
[09-Sep-2008 18:58:48] <Bam22e> Presumably the Zenoss would have to be installed on windows server (for best results) ?
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:02] <sj7trunks> no zenoss doesn't run on windows servers
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:11] <sj7trunks> basically you have a couple things
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:19] <Bam22e> oh
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:23] <sj7trunks> one is a ping test across an entire network to discover devices
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:28] <sj7trunks> the next is snmp collection
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:39] <Bam22e> ahh so enabling snmp agent then
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:53] <sj7trunks> so windows servers/desktops having snmp enabled would give you a lot of stats about each server
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:17] <sj7trunks> you can actually automate most of this stuff if you like
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:21] <sj7trunks> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8739#8739
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:24] <sj7trunks> theres a page
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:29] <Bam22e> sounds pretty good. how about linux servers? you can get installed applications lists?
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:40] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How do I monitor windows? (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:55] <sj7trunks> now to get even more stats for windows stuff you can do wmi plugin
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:27] <sj7trunks> for linux servers it polls info from snmp as well
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:40] <sj7trunks> you can intergrate already used nagios plugins
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:50] <sj7trunks> and also do polling via ssh
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:54] <sj7trunks> but no program list sorry
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:12] <`m3> umm there is
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:18] <`m3> works on mine anyway
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:23] <Bam22e> showoff
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:27] <sj7trunks> `m3 which?
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:33] <sj7trunks> not working on my redhat installations
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:36] <`m3> snmp HRSWinstalled collector
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:54] <Bam22e> okay.. I think one could create AD policy to enable everything required automatically
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:54] <`m3> plugin
[09-Sep-2008 19:03:06] <sn1ffer72> has anyone used the httpmonitor's regex?
[09-Sep-2008 19:03:39] <sj7trunks> cool m3, thanks for setting me straight;)
[09-Sep-2008 19:03:51] <Bam22e> I think this deserves an actual testing... Zenoss might fit the need
[09-Sep-2008 19:04:44] <CamargoBP> `m3: Have you ever experienced extremely slow response times with Zenoss?
[09-Sep-2008 19:04:54] <`m3> yes
[09-Sep-2008 19:04:54] <Bam22e> thank you gentlemen for your kind answers
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:13] <CamargoBP> Is that why you restart Zenoss twice a day?
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:20] <`m3> sj7trunks, i am sure you will be able to return the favour
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:33] <`m3> CamargoBP, i find zenoss gets slow if too much stuff isnt working
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:45] <`m3> too many snmp clients timiing out etc
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:03] <`m3> its forever timing stuff out, and this adds to its slowness
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:32] <`m3> and the mysql events table getting a bit full slows down the interface
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:39] <CamargoBP> Well I think I am experiencing that.
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:51] <`m3> multiple users sucks too
[09-Sep-2008 19:07:25] <`m3> so try to keep things that always fail in /unmonitored with no plugins or templates
[09-Sep-2008 19:07:51] <`m3> that helps for bigger setups
[09-Sep-2008 19:52:41] <rbw> good day!
[09-Sep-2008 20:05:35] <CamargoBP> Do you know why some devices show up in the Device Issues (Dashboard) when there are no events associated with them?
[09-Sep-2008 20:08:27] <CamargoBP> Got it! It was events that didn't get cleared under the event console
[09-Sep-2008 20:18:03] <sn1ffer72> no takers on the HttpMonitor regex option?
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:14] <sj7trunks> sniffer72 what are you trying to do
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:47] <sn1ffer72> basically I have a url
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:52] <sn1ffer72> that on that web page
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:58] <sn1ffer72> it comes up with a status message
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:09] <sn1ffer72> such as RMDY: UP
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:18] <sn1ffer72> or RMDY: DOWN
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:31] <sj7trunks> so whats your regex
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:32] <sn1ffer72> so I wanna regex to get the status
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:55] <sn1ffer72> I believe it should be in the regex parameter.. that's really what I am trying to confirm
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:28] <sn1ffer72> is that if I put it in that local copy of the template's regex section will it actually parse the url page response?
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:39] <sj7trunks> you know you can wget it
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:43] <sj7trunks> try some regex with grep
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:47] <sj7trunks> you can try both
[09-Sep-2008 20:25:05] <sn1ffer72> sorry.. I am trying to use the HttpMonitor first before I head to the CLI
[09-Sep-2008 20:27:38] <sj7trunks> hehe
[09-Sep-2008 20:27:56] <sj7trunks> well httpmonitor is a frontend interface and you can't really get results that fast
[09-Sep-2008 20:28:00] <sj7trunks> so CLI rules for that
[09-Sep-2008 20:32:56] <sn1ffer72> ok so lets talk cli
[09-Sep-2008 20:33:39] <CamargoBP> So I am trying to map an event to an eventclass but it wont move.
[09-Sep-2008 20:33:42] <sn1ffer72> do you have a 1-2-3 setup on how to perform system calls from zenoss?
[09-Sep-2008 20:33:43] <CamargoBP> Any ideas?
[09-Sep-2008 20:36:16] <THX-SWE> Does anyone know what could be wrong with ZenWin when the zenwin.log fills up with "TypeError: iteration over non-sequence" from ProcessLoop()
[09-Sep-2008 20:37:31] <CamargoBP> Does anyone know a good resource to find collector plugins?
[09-Sep-2008 20:38:05] <THX-SWE> (it's the line "for device in self.devices:" that gives the Exception) but how can i correct it?
[09-Sep-2008 20:38:56] <sn1ffer72> I think I see it here for the cli system calls
[09-Sep-2008 20:39:08] <sn1ffer72> management -> Event manager -> commands
[09-Sep-2008 20:39:57] <sn1ffer72> ah
[09-Sep-2008 20:39:57] <sn1ffer72> ok
[09-Sep-2008 20:40:19] <sn1ffer72> I also see settings -> commands
[09-Sep-2008 20:49:29] <sn1ffer72> thx
[09-Sep-2008 21:21:11] <CamargoBP> Oh boy now they want paging! Not just email alerts
[09-Sep-2008 21:21:17] <CamargoBP> Will this ever end!?
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:21] <CamargoBP> Has anyone here ever setup the pager?
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:23] <sj7trunks> why is that so bad
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:32] <sj7trunks> it means more job stability for you:)
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:52] <CamargoBP> Lol. Startup company, not much stability
[09-Sep-2008 21:24:12] <CamargoBP> Not true, were doing really well actually
[09-Sep-2008 21:34:47] <CamargoBP> That wasn't hard to setup at all
[09-Sep-2008 21:34:55] <CamargoBP> Nice!
[09-Sep-2008 21:34:58] <sj7trunks> hehe
[09-Sep-2008 21:35:19] <sj7trunks> i'm at a startup too but they're getting a sweet deal for all the things i can do for them:P
[09-Sep-2008 21:35:41] <CamargoBP> I know how that is
[09-Sep-2008 21:35:55] <CamargoBP> BRB
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[10-Sep-2008 03:24:27] <daMaestro> does anyone do layer 7 checks for http?
[10-Sep-2008 03:24:38] <daMaestro> how do you use a HTTP/1.1 request?
[10-Sep-2008 03:40:48] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/2489 blah
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[10-Sep-2008 13:25:03] <nocturn> I'm installing ZenOSS Core on Ubuntu 8.04
[10-Sep-2008 13:25:16] <nocturn> tried multiple ways (deb, source, stack)
[10-Sep-2008 13:25:26] <nocturn> but no matter, I cannot add ipservices to hosts
[10-Sep-2008 13:25:37] <nocturn> only the ones that whare autodetected are enabled
[10-Sep-2008 13:26:08] <nocturn> The add ipservice dialog shows the protocol selector (tcp/udp) and Ok grayed out, no other options are shown
[10-Sep-2008 13:27:41] <nocturn> On an older Zenoss version on Ubuntu 6.06, this worked fine...
[10-Sep-2008 14:09:24] <nocturn> Fixed, applied a 2.2.4 patch
[10-Sep-2008 14:33:10] <axel> hello, i want to make command plugin for vmstat in zenoss
[10-Sep-2008 14:33:49] <nemo__> kool
[10-Sep-2008 14:34:06] <axel> what i've done is modified file df.py in /usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/cmd/
[10-Sep-2008 14:35:05] <axel> but, in file df.py, the maptype attributes in df class types : maptype = "FilesystemMap"
[10-Sep-2008 14:36:20] <axel> is there any guidance how to fill maptype? or any string is ok? i mean, can i fill maptype like : maptype = "FooBarMap"?
[10-Sep-2008 14:44:50] <nemo__> no idea, never even looked into it, i got enough problems with what i have already
[10-Sep-2008 16:17:25] <daMaestro> any developers around?
[10-Sep-2008 16:17:38] <daMaestro> if i was to generate a patch set, should i do so against trunk?
[10-Sep-2008 16:17:56] <daMaestro> (and yes, i'll be here tomorrow and will likely have a patch set to discuss)
[10-Sep-2008 16:55:09] <Khazwerk> anyone up for helping me with WMI issues?
[10-Sep-2008 18:34:28] <PPPP> I'm looking at the examples on http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/get-a-list-of-device-names/
[10-Sep-2008 18:34:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Extract information from Zenoss without using the WebUI - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[10-Sep-2008 18:34:53] <PPPP> how would I know there's an attribute called "id" from getSubDevices()?
[10-Sep-2008 19:28:57] <sn1ffer72> Can anyone make a recommendation as to what they think the best VOIP monitoring software is?
[10-Sep-2008 20:06:28] <Linux50> hello everyone.
[10-Sep-2008 20:08:47] <Linux50> I was wondering if anyone can help me with the google map network link (the green line between sites). I have been trying to figure out why my google map is showing a link between site 2 and site 3 but not between site 1 and 2 nor site 1 3. Pretty much site 1 is not linking to anybody.
[10-Sep-2008 20:10:57] <Linux50> my zPingMonitorIgnore = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyIndirect = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyLocal=false, zSnmpMonitorIgnore=false
[10-Sep-2008 20:40:45] <MrTux> Linux50: is there an interface on both sides which share an ip subnet?
[10-Sep-2008 20:41:20] <CamargoBP> Anyone know how Zenoss sends alert. once every minute? Every alert?
[10-Sep-2008 20:51:49] <CamargoBP> Zenactions seems to be taking about 60 seconds to send an email out. I wonder if there is anyway to speed that up? Anyone ever have an issue with that?
[10-Sep-2008 22:26:14] <CamargoBP> Wow not much talk today. I guess no one is having any issues with Zenoss. Nice!
[10-Sep-2008 23:04:28] <sj7trunks> hehe
[10-Sep-2008 23:04:38] <sj7trunks> well mine is more like a feature enhancement
[10-Sep-2008 23:10:16] <sj7trunks> tried to do OSProcesses but it isn't quite working the way i want it to so i might as well just use a template
[10-Sep-2008 23:36:36] <Linux50> MrTux... Are you still there?
[10-Sep-2008 23:54:44] <Linux50> Can anyone help me with my issue stated above?
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[11-Sep-2008 07:46:56] <asciii> hi
[11-Sep-2008 07:47:18] <asciii> i just installed zenoss and addded a server as device
[11-Sep-2008 07:47:40] <asciii> when i check the component status of the device..all of em are in blue
[11-Sep-2008 07:47:59] <asciii> with errors saying: rror reading value for "memBuffer" on ipaddress (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[11-Sep-2008 07:48:17] <asciii> help pls
[11-Sep-2008 12:51:52] <roadies> Why can't zenoss (2.2.3) setup a device by IP addresses? I see the SNMP request come into the target device and the targets response received by zenoss but zenoss does send the getsnmp after that?
[11-Sep-2008 12:52:20] <roadies> Yet, if I setup the device via hostname it works ?? confused I am
[11-Sep-2008 13:44:55] <CamargoBP> roadies: I've setup plenty of devices via IP address
[11-Sep-2008 13:46:24] <roadies> CamargoBP, yeah I agree what the heck is going on....well I found it.......does sorry for the confused rant....but thanks for taking the time to reply....
[11-Sep-2008 13:47:04] <CamargoBP> So you figured it out then?
[11-Sep-2008 13:52:50] <roadies> CamargoBP: yeah....the stupidity on my part is just way high on this one..... ergo red faced I sleek away in hiding....*sign*..... just call it old man's gray matter is totally toast these days
[11-Sep-2008 13:53:45] <CamargoBP> Naw when I started using Zenoss, a week ago I had the same issue, it took a few hours to figure it out.
[11-Sep-2008 13:56:17] <roadies> ok another question.... with release 2.1 using network map, I could set the subnet to 10.0.0.0/ with 4 hops ... with 2.2.3 I can only see subnets if I cycle down to a specific subnet like 10.2.1.0/ but it only displays that subnet.....whats the trick to see an entire network from a class A or B aka 10.0.0.0/8 ?
[11-Sep-2008 13:57:47] <CamargoBP> Let me give it a go. One sec.
[11-Sep-2008 14:00:43] <CamargoBP> Good questiong
[11-Sep-2008 14:00:54] <CamargoBP> question. I don't know.
[11-Sep-2008 14:01:31] <CamargoBP> Are all your networks nested properly? ie. 10.3.0.0 > 10.3.1.0 etc...
[11-Sep-2008 14:04:57] <roadies> CamargoBP: I have over 24 subnets to the 10.0.0.0 class A, what I wonder is...does the Zenoss system have to belong to the highest subnet? aka 10.0.0.0...aka what does the hop setting really do
[11-Sep-2008 14:06:21] <roadies> CamargoBP: if U click on a device, the map that is drawn is what it sees from each interface.
[11-Sep-2008 14:06:41] <CamargoBP> Correct
[11-Sep-2008 14:10:10] <roadies> CamargoBP: so I think the issue is, mapping only see 4 deep... aka device "X" will see each subnet 4 deep from each of its interfaces... bummer.... I wonder is a fakeout could get it to see every subnet.... aka turn it into a router and get all the subnets
[11-Sep-2008 14:26:06] <roadies> oh peanut butter..... turning it into a router didnt work.... *sign*
[11-Sep-2008 14:34:03] <can_jafo> Morning all.
[11-Sep-2008 14:59:48] <mrayzenoss> Good morning everybody
[11-Sep-2008 14:59:56] <bedwards> hello
[11-Sep-2008 15:00:14] <mrayzenoss> bedwards and I are here to answer your questions this morning
[11-Sep-2008 15:00:29] <mrayzenoss> There may be a few other Zenoss lurkers, hopefully they'll chip in
[11-Sep-2008 15:00:58] <can_jafo> Morning.
[11-Sep-2008 15:01:23] <can_jafo> I've just started testing Zenoss this week so it's still totally new to me.
[11-Sep-2008 15:01:40] <can_jafo> Is there a fix for the WMI RPC_S_CALL_FAILED events?
[11-Sep-2008 15:02:41] <can_jafo> or am I in the wrong place for these type of questions?
[11-Sep-2008 15:02:44] <mrayzenoss> are you referrring to a ticket?
[11-Sep-2008 15:02:47] <mrayzenoss> no, this is the right place
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:19] <can_jafo> I'm looking at this forum thread:
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:24] <can_jafo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16603#16603
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:36] <can_jafo> But there's no firewall between my Zenoss box and the windows box.
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Stopped Zenwin not shown in Zenoss Issues on Dashboard (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:58] <mrayzenoss> Is this against Vista?
[11-Sep-2008 15:04:35] <can_jafo> No it's Win2k server.
[11-Sep-2008 15:05:43] <mrayzenoss> there are a bunch of windows fixes going into 2.2.4, which is about to go out
[11-Sep-2008 15:05:48] <mrayzenoss> are you running 2.2.3?
[11-Sep-2008 15:05:51] <cgibbons> can_jafo: have you tried using the wmic command manually to see if connectivity between your zenoss host & the box in question is OK? (if not I can describe)
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:04] <can_jafo> yeah, I'm running 2.2.3
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:15] <can_jafo> cgibbons: nope.
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:46] <can_jafo> zenwinmodeler run -v 10 ends with the following output:
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:56] <can_jafo> DEBUG:zen.zenwinmodeler:Wmi Probs ['lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca']
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:56] <can_jafo> WARNING:zen.zenwinmodeler:skipping lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca has bad wmi state
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:02] <cgibbons> k, it's easy to do. try this: $ZENHOME/bin/wmic -U yourusername%yourpassword //yourhostname 'select * from win32_computersystem'
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:37] <cgibbons> yeah, once it gets an error it'll put the device into a bad state (deliberately) until you go manually clear it, at least for now. that command will tell us if the low-level connectivity is there or if there is something higher level going on.
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:38] <Sain0rs> I thought the WMI calls only working on Windows XP/2003+
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:48] <Sain0rs> er, only worked on
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:00] <cgibbons> there are some issues with Windows 2000 & WMI modeling, even though the low level stuff works okay (exactly Sain0rs)
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:19] <can_jafo> cgibbons: I don't have a wmic binary in $ZENHOME/bin
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:45] <cgibbons> hurm, might be somewhere else depending upon what type of install you have. appliance? stack? source?
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:50] <can_jafo> It's possible this is an issue on the Windows site too. I don't admin that box, I'm a Unix guy.
[11-Sep-2008 15:09:34] <can_jafo> cgibbons: *gah* it was common/bin
[11-Sep-2008 15:09:43] <cgibbons> yeah... sounds like a stack
[11-Sep-2008 15:09:58] <can_jafo> I don't have credentials for the windows box though.
[11-Sep-2008 15:11:01] <can_jafo> Sorry, I don't even know what WMI is, I'm just trying to eliminate the event so it doesn't show up on the dashboard.
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:00] <can_jafo> Do the admin credentials for the windows box have to be configured in Zenoss?
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:05] <cgibbons> yeah
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:23] <can_jafo> cgibbons: well that would be my problem then (doh).
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:53] <Sain0rs> if possible you might try and ask them to install SNMP Informant on that Windows machine and collect data via SNMP instead of WMI
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:59] <cgibbons> WMI is called Windows Management Instrumentation; if you've ever heard of CIM (Common Information Model) then it's Microsoft's implementation of it. short story is it uses a set of DCOM classes that are called via DCE/RPC to pull back management data.
[11-Sep-2008 15:13:08] <mrayzenoss> if you want to get rid of the events, at the zProperties, set zWmiMonitorIgnore = True
[11-Sep-2008 15:13:49] <cgibbons> (and the good news is we're working hard on making all of this remote Windows monitoring a lot more robust right now)
[11-Sep-2008 15:14:02] <can_jafo> But I can accomplish the same thing with SNMP? Im' sure the windows admins won't be keen on giving me admin access to their boxes.
[11-Sep-2008 15:14:44] <cgibbons> you can probably get all that you need via SNMP if they enable it on the servers you need.
[11-Sep-2008 15:14:53] <can_jafo> Yes they have.
[11-Sep-2008 15:15:42] <mrayzenoss> So speaking of Windows monitoring...
[11-Sep-2008 15:16:05] <mrayzenoss> We're going to be adding a new "zenoss-windows" forum just for monitoring Windows discussions
[11-Sep-2008 15:16:12] <cgibbons> yippie!
[11-Sep-2008 15:16:15] <can_jafo> Excellent.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <mrayzenoss> there seems to be a bit too much traffic on zenoss-users, so we'll try to spread it out a bit
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> I'm trying to convince management to use Zenoss as opposed to Openview.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <mrayzenoss> they'll save a bit of money
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> So if I can get this stable and useful before the openview pilot I"m laughing.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> 1 more question.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <mrayzenoss> sure
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> I"m getting lots of "/Perf/Snmp" Error reading value for X (oid xxxxxx is bad) events.
[11-Sep-2008 15:18:07] <can_jafo> Does that mean Zenoss is looking for an OID that the server doesn't have or have I not enabled something on the servers I want to monitor?
[11-Sep-2008 15:19:42] <can_jafo> Example from a sun box:
[11-Sep-2008 15:19:55] <can_jafo> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on bat.lhsc.on.ca (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:24] * daMaestro is a little late
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:29] <daMaestro> any developers still around?
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:40] <can_jafo> daMaestro: yup
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:52] <can_jafo> (not me)
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:07] <daMaestro> cool, i was wondering if i should be developing patch sets against trunk? or?
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:11] <mrayzenoss> we're here, looking for the right answer to his question
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:23] <can_jafo> mrayzenoss: thanks.
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:25] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: what are you patching?
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:40] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i'm sick of sendString not being able to have \n
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:42] <bedwards> can_jafo: can you do snmpwalk on that oid
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:53] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, it's impossible to implement HTTP/1.1 requests
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:11] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: is there a ticket?
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:29] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, from a long time ago, with a poor patch set (IMHO)
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:47] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i was going to just develop a patch set and submit it as a bug
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:49] <mrayzenoss> ok, let me find it and I'll walk you through getting a patch in and on our radar
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:52] <mrayzenoss> that works too
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:03] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i can do the patch set ;-)
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:20] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i just want to know if i should do it against trunk or against the 2.2.3 release?
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:31] <mrayzenoss> at this point, Trunk
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:43] <mrayzenoss> it has to be a blocker to get applied to 2.2.X
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:53] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.4 is frozen and about to come out
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:54] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/2489
[11-Sep-2008 15:24:04] <can_jafo> grr... trying to get snmpwalk syntax. one sec.
[11-Sep-2008 15:24:04] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 goes to beta in 2 weeks
[11-Sep-2008 15:24:24] <mrayzenoss> so the window for 2.2.x is closing
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:05] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Is that your ticket?
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:05] <krphop> is there anyway to change the fonts that are used in the RRD's, but only for particular users?
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:13] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, no.. just something i foudn
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:14] <bedwards> can_jafo: you can do snmpwalk from the web ui on the device page, page menu, run commands
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:16] <daMaestro> found*
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:22] <cgibbons> okay, I just checked.. the fixes we had for Windows 2000 WMI modeling aren't in the 2.2.x branches, just in the trunk. so that's coming in a later release.
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:52] <can_jafo> snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic bat.lhsc.on.ca .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:00] <can_jafo> just returns with no output
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:29] <can_jafo> bedwards: can I pass the OID to the web UI?
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:35] <jp105581> Hi Zenoss Dev's!
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:49] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: so open a new ticket: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket and put patch in there
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:05] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: and add the "contribute" keyword
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:06] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i will (and i know how to open tickets) ;-)
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:17] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i just wanted to know what i should develop against
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:24] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, also.. is there a zenoss buildout anywhere?
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:26] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: ok, over kill
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:34] <bedwards> can_jafo: nope, just system, so command line is your only option
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:38] <mrayzenoss> buildout?
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:57] <can_jafo> bedwards: ya, I'm getting no output from snmpwalk on the command line.
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:15] <can_jafo> bedwards: does that mean I need to configure net-snmp to recognize that OID then?
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:22] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout\
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:24] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Python Package Index : zc.buildout 1.1.1 (at pypi.python.org)
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:00] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, it would make developing for zenoss much easier
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:09] <bedwards> can_jafo: there is no problem with the net-snmp client recognizing that OID
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:15] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: we would like to make our builds easier
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:26] <mrayzenoss> I'll mention it to dev, see what Ian thinks
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:40] <bedwards> can_jafo: it appears that the server isn't sending anything back for that OID
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:41] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, good.. use buildouts. ;-) it's the standard zope way to do things (and it's what we use with plone)
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:55] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i'm also going to be working on a plugin for webmetrics
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:01] <mrayzenoss> cool
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:22] <can_jafo> bedwards: I get the same alert for a fwe OIDs on the windows boxes too.
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:28] <cgibbons> welcome Chet
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:33] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Ian thinks Buildout is good stuff, we're looking at it for some stuff already
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:36] <can_jafo> So they're safe to ignore then?
[11-Sep-2008 15:31:03] <mrayzenoss> jmp242: Greetings
[11-Sep-2008 15:31:42] <mrayzenoss> krphop: I don't know about changing the fonts on RRD, I'll look into tthat
[11-Sep-2008 15:32:05] <mrayzenoss> krphop: particular users might be an issue
[11-Sep-2008 15:33:36] <krphop> mrayzenoss: basically, i have one user that just uses a multigraph dashboard thats created, and I'd like that user to use slightly smaller fonts for the RRD's
[11-Sep-2008 15:33:42] <jmp242> hi mrayzenoss
[11-Sep-2008 15:33:45] <jmp242> how's it going?
[11-Sep-2008 15:34:07] <mrayzenoss> pretty good. We've got 3 Zenoss devs in the channel and me.
[11-Sep-2008 15:34:16] <jmp242> cool - any info on release of 2.2.4?
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:05] <bedwards> can_jafo: that OID is for Total RAM Buffered
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:31] <mrayzenoss> So I went down to the configuration manager's office and asked about the state of 2.2.4
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:44] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, recommendation: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ add (on the front page) how to checkout the source
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:48] <mrayzenoss> we have 1 blocker that is being actively worked on (probably fixed today)
[11-Sep-2008 15:37:11] <mrayzenoss> a day to build and 2 days of testing, so probably Monday
[11-Sep-2008 15:37:49] <mrayzenoss> a pre-release of 2.2.4 slipped into rPath accidentally and was available to appliance users, don't use it!
[11-Sep-2008 15:38:13] <can_jafo> bedwards: so I need to figure out how to get net-snmp to return a value for that OID then?
[11-Sep-2008 15:38:14] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: ok, noted
[11-Sep-2008 15:39:39] <can_jafo> bedwards: i'm having the same issue with OID .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 on the windows boxes so I"m getting no CPU data for them.
[11-Sep-2008 15:40:17] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, is the standard patch set just a gendiff from trunk?
[11-Sep-2008 15:41:06] <jmp242> no, I don't use the VMWare appliance
[11-Sep-2008 15:41:52] <jmp242> I hope to get to try out 2.2.4 if it's out sometime next week, as I haven't upgraded since 2.1.2
[11-Sep-2008 15:44:33] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: yeah, that works
[11-Sep-2008 15:45:03] <mrayzenoss> jmp242: a lot of work has been done on migrating 2.1->2.2.4, so that should be good
[11-Sep-2008 15:46:49] <jmp242> That will make me a happy ZenMaster lol!
[11-Sep-2008 15:47:15] <can_jafo> Where can I set the thresholds for triggering events on things like disk space and network interface utilization?
[11-Sep-2008 15:47:21] <bedwards> can_jafo: other OIDs are working, correct?
[11-Sep-2008 15:47:51] <can_jafo> bedwards: Yup, I'm collecting data from the Sun and Windows boxes but a few OIDs are failing on each platform.
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:01] <can_jafo> bedwards: I just read a posting in the forum about needing NMP Informant
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:03] <can_jafo> extension for Windows
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:28] <jmp242> If you use built in Zenoss Windows, you need SNMP Informant
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:34] <jmp242> you can use the WMI zenpack(s)
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:41] <jmp242> and avoid SNMP Informant
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:52] <jmp242> or perfmon too, if you configure it right IIRC
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:53] <can_jafo> bedwards: so that may be my problem on the windows side but net-snmp on the Sun boxes is the bundled Solaris 10 net-snmp.
[11-Sep-2008 15:50:22] <can_jafo> jmp242: But I need administrative credentials for the boxes to use WMI and the windows guys likely won't go for that.
[11-Sep-2008 15:50:33] <jmp242> what about Perfmon?
[11-Sep-2008 15:50:48] <jmp242> well, time for lunch
[11-Sep-2008 15:51:27] <can_jafo> Thanks for the help everyone.
[11-Sep-2008 15:52:26] <can_jafo> I've already accomplished more with Zenoss than two consultant lead Openview projects here so it's looking really promising.
[11-Sep-2008 15:53:43] keith_ is now known as can_jafo
[11-Sep-2008 15:56:38] <mrayzenoss> krphop: There's a section of the Admin Guide that covers RRD configuration
[11-Sep-2008 15:57:08] <mrayzenoss> krphop: 7.1.1 in the "Format" section you can set the font, but you won't be able to change it for particular users
[11-Sep-2008 15:57:53] <mrayzenoss> krphop: just for particular graphs
[11-Sep-2008 15:59:19] <krphop> mrayzenoss: ok, any plans to have a configurable variable per user in the future?
[11-Sep-2008 16:00:20] <mrayzenoss> krphop: I don't think so, but you can open a ticket as an enhancement and we'll address it
[11-Sep-2008 16:00:50] <mrayzenoss> we've been making a lot of progress lately on the ticket backlog
[11-Sep-2008 16:00:59] <mrayzenoss> streamlining the process and whatnot
[11-Sep-2008 16:01:11] <mrayzenoss> so new tickets will get addressed a lot sooner
[11-Sep-2008 16:01:23] <mrayzenoss> we might not fix it, but it won't be put into limbo
[11-Sep-2008 16:02:06] <krphop> ok, cool, thanks
[11-Sep-2008 16:02:36] <mrayzenoss> bedwards has to get going, so we're going to wrap the session up shortly
[11-Sep-2008 16:03:24] <mrayzenoss> but we're making this a fixture on the development calendar, so we'll be here for sure every 2 weeks, and at other random times as well
[11-Sep-2008 16:04:12] <mrayzenoss> and as always, the forums are an active discussion venue for support and we'll be adding zenoss-windows soon
[11-Sep-2008 16:07:36] <sj7trunks> darn
[11-Sep-2008 16:07:48] <sj7trunks> i was gonna ask if there is anyway to apply OSProcesses to an entire class
[11-Sep-2008 16:57:04] <isotope> does zenoss support aggregate alerting?
[11-Sep-2008 16:57:30] <isotope> ie. " only page me when >20% of the hosts in the service group fail"
[11-Sep-2008 16:57:59] <isotope> I'm hoping zenoss can replace my nagios + cacti setup that I have now
[11-Sep-2008 17:00:20] sploozer is now known as Guest27780
[11-Sep-2008 17:02:38] <daMaestro> anyone know if there is a way to make v2c the default snmp version?
[11-Sep-2008 17:14:47] <sj7trunks> daMaestro yes
[11-Sep-2008 17:16:00] <sj7trunks> you can go to the device class say /device/server/Linux and edit zProperties
[11-Sep-2008 17:16:11] <sj7trunks> should find zSnmpVer
[11-Sep-2008 17:30:27] <isotope> nice gig if you can get it-> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sad/836641687.html
[11-Sep-2008 17:30:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Infrastructure Architect - Gap Inc. Direct (at sfbay.craigslist.org)
[11-Sep-2008 17:32:11] <sj7trunks> i could get it probably
[11-Sep-2008 18:08:07] <Linux50> I was wondering if anyone can help me with the google map network link (the green line between sites). I have been trying to figure out why my google map is showing a link between site 2 and site 3 but not between site 1 and 2 nor site 1 3. Pretty much site 1 is not linking to anybody. my zPingMonitorIgnore = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyIndirect = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyLocal=false, zSnmpMonitorIgnore=false
[11-Sep-2008 18:13:28] * dundel Kill - One Tree Hill - Jimmy Eat World (x«amarok)
[11-Sep-2008 18:32:45] <CamargoBP> Linux50: Has anyone addressed your concern?
[11-Sep-2008 18:32:51] <Linux50> no
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:18] <CamargoBP> I'm just about to head out to lunch for an hour. If you are here in about an hour I can help with that
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:32] <Linux50> ill be here until 5pm pst
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:39] <CamargoBP> Alright.
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:40] <Linux50> thank you in advance
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:55] <CamargoBP> Tchaú
[11-Sep-2008 19:18:45] <CamargoBP> Linux50: Are you still here?
[11-Sep-2008 19:23:40] <Linux50> hey CamargoBP
[11-Sep-2008 19:23:49] <Linux50> Sorry I was working on another screen
[11-Sep-2008 19:23:49] <CamargoBP> Howdy
[11-Sep-2008 19:24:30] <CamargoBP> No prob
[11-Sep-2008 19:24:48] <CamargoBP> So what's up. About the maps? It looks like you have links sort of wokring
[11-Sep-2008 19:25:26] <Linux50> We have three sites. Site 1 has links to site 2 and site 3
[11-Sep-2008 19:25:36] <Linux50> site 2 and 3 are also linked to each other
[11-Sep-2008 19:25:41] <Linux50> full mesh
[11-Sep-2008 19:26:00] <Linux50> There connected together via 192.168.100.0/30
[11-Sep-2008 19:58:46] <cgibbons> hey cote
[11-Sep-2008 19:59:01] <cote> cgibbons: hello!
[11-Sep-2008 20:59:24] <muppethouse> a long time ago I learned how to recursively make setting changes from the command line - can anyone point me in the right direction for adding an IP service check for a slew of devices?
[11-Sep-2008 21:12:29] <DarienWork> oh thank god
[11-Sep-2008 21:13:28] <DarienWork> ok, I've got an annoying problem - I'm trying to set up Zenoss on one server to monitor a process on the other server... and it tells me it's not running (it is) but I can't figure out how it's trying to check, to see why it's failing
[11-Sep-2008 21:14:24] <DarienWork> I've got it set up as an 'OS Process', but since it's a collection of TCP-listening daemons, I'm wondering if it makes more sense from a Zenoss point of view to just set it up as IP Services
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:02] <sj7trunks> OSProcesses has a bug
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:12] <sj7trunks> you need to add it to the device and then "lock" it
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:51] <sj7trunks> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16880&sid=5b52406db8f5fe91a241cfab9d61a839
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:56] <DarienWork> lock from deletion or updates also?
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:06] <sj7trunks> lock em from deletion
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - OSProcesses disappeared (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:39] <DarienWork> but it's never ever showed them as running
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:55] <DarienWork> it doesn't go away, it's never worked at all
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:00] <sj7trunks> heh
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:13] <sj7trunks> have you set up an OSProcess that's worked in the past?
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:29] <DarienWork> yep, it was watching postfix for a while
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:34] <DarienWork> though it whined like crazy because it kept restarting
[11-Sep-2008 21:18:39] <sj7trunks> hrmm so you add the OSProcess to the device and it shows up Red?
[11-Sep-2008 21:18:52] <DarienWork> yep
[11-Sep-2008 21:19:07] <sj7trunks> then your regex must be off for that process
[11-Sep-2008 21:19:48] <DarienWork> does the regex need to match the whole line?
[11-Sep-2008 21:20:06] <DarienWork> I've got 'mongrel_rails' and ignore params: False
[11-Sep-2008 21:20:27] <DarienWork> but the process is '/usr/bin/ruby1.8 /usr/local/bin/mongrel_rails start ....'
[11-Sep-2008 21:20:55] <sj7trunks> try *mongrel_rails*
[11-Sep-2008 21:21:25] <DarienWork> !
[11-Sep-2008 21:21:27] <DarienWork> <3
[11-Sep-2008 21:21:53] <sj7trunks>
[11-Sep-2008 21:22:25] <DarienWork> ok, oops... so next question... what if I want it to make sure there are five of them running? NOW do I need IP services?
[11-Sep-2008 21:23:11] <sj7trunks> i have seen that you can set a number of processses to monitor in the properties dialog of OSProcess classes
[11-Sep-2008 21:23:56] <DarienWork> I see the 'zCountProcs'... let's see if that changes it
[11-Sep-2008 21:24:46] <DarienWork> now it's not running again
[11-Sep-2008 21:25:15] <DarienWork> this is either confusing or I need more sleep
[11-Sep-2008 21:26:42] <sj7trunks> well we did just do zCountProcs
[11-Sep-2008 21:26:51] <sj7trunks> try changing it back to nothing
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:19] <DarienWork> no wait, it's running now
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:21] <DarienWork> 'running'
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:22] <sj7trunks> hehe
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:31] * sj7trunks gives it some gatorade
[11-Sep-2008 21:28:33] <sj7trunks> also did you notice the zAlertOnRestart?
[11-Sep-2008 21:28:41] <sj7trunks> you can turn that off for postfix
[11-Sep-2008 21:29:27] <DarienWork> yeah, well I actually turned smtpd off entirely, since these machines aren't receiving mail
[11-Sep-2008 21:29:41] <DarienWork> but yeah, I took that off... what does that actually *do*? watch the pid to see if it changes?
[11-Sep-2008 21:30:25] <DarienWork> zenoss seems confusingly complicated but also very awesome
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:16] <sj7trunks> well the thing is zenoss is a bunch of developers and it seems like a really cool project lead thrown together
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:19] <DarienWork> also, I can't get to the machine's 'perf' tab anymore, ever since I tried installing (then removing) zenpacks on it
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:27] <sj7trunks> the documentation however
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:46] <sj7trunks> it does everything in sections without really linking sections that should go together
[11-Sep-2008 21:32:56] <sj7trunks> darien well could be because you stopped monitoring devices altogether
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:13] <sj7trunks> try going to a device
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:16] <sj7trunks> without changing anything
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:20] <sj7trunks> click zproperties
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:31] <sj7trunks> what does zDeviceTemplates tell you
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:30] <DarienWork> where do I find zProperties of a device?
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:38] <DarienWork> oh there it is
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:54] <DarienWork> Device, ethernetCsmacd, ethernetCsmacd_64, FileSystem, IpService, OSProcess
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:58] <DarienWork> gotta go, back in a bit
[11-Sep-2008 21:54:03] <DarienWork> thanks for all the help!
[11-Sep-2008 21:56:07] <sj7trunks> sure
[11-Sep-2008 21:57:44] <sj7trunks> so normally you don't apply those templates to a device
[11-Sep-2008 21:57:50] <sj7trunks> well some of them
[11-Sep-2008 21:58:15] <sj7trunks> ethernetCsmacd, ethernetCsmacd_64, FileSystem, OSProcess
[11-Sep-2008 21:58:21] <sj7trunks> we can look at it when you get back
[11-Sep-2008 22:28:37] <CamargoBP> Does anyone else try to model Dell RAC's via SNMP? I can't seem to get much information from them.
[11-Sep-2008 22:53:17] <sj7trunks> did you download the MIB CamargoBP?
[11-Sep-2008 22:53:23] <CamargoBP> yep
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:00] <sj7trunks> i've got the extended MIB
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:06] <sj7trunks> it's loaded with stuff but top level doesn't look like much
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:19] <CamargoBP> Where did you get it?
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:50] <sj7trunks> standard linux distro has it but i had to fiddle with it to get it loaded
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:54] <sj7trunks> in zenoss
[11-Sep-2008 22:55:14] <CamargoBP> Where would I find it in the distro?
[11-Sep-2008 22:55:30] <sj7trunks> /usr/share/snmp/mibs/NET-SNMP-EXTEND-MIB.txt
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:35] <CamargoBP> I'm getting this error under ZenPacks
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:36] <CamargoBP> Products.ZenModel.ZenPack
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:45] <CamargoBP> This pack is missing or broken. You may need to restart Zope.
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:53] <CamargoBP> I've restarted Zope many times
[11-Sep-2008 22:58:03] <sj7trunks> try to remove the offended zenpack?
[11-Sep-2008 22:58:17] <CamargoBP> Anyway to get rid of it? It doesn't say which pack it is
[11-Sep-2008 22:58:42] <CamargoBP> No check boxes are next to the line
[11-Sep-2008 23:00:51] <sj7trunks> which zenpacks
[11-Sep-2008 23:02:33] <CamargoBP> http://pastebin.com/m62dcf544
[11-Sep-2008 23:02:36] <CamargoBP> That is what I am seeing
[11-Sep-2008 23:02:39] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Sep-2008 23:05:38] <isotope> how do you force a device to be updated
[11-Sep-2008 23:06:11] <isotope> I just changed a zProperty for a device and I want to run the check again to see if it works
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[11-Sep-2008 23:15:07] <sj7trunks> you run model device
[11-Sep-2008 23:15:57] <isotope> Ah, thanks
[11-Sep-2008 23:16:24] <sj7trunks> comargo i would say try removing the poweredge pack
[11-Sep-2008 23:53:24] <DarienWork> back
[11-Sep-2008 23:53:26] <DarienWork> what fun
[11-Sep-2008 23:55:36] <DarienWork> oh, another question I had - is there a way to get rid of 'WinProcesses'? I have no Windows processes, as I have no Windows
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[12-Sep-2008 00:09:56] <DarienWork> are there any bugs in the IP Services thing? I can't seem to add arbitrary services
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:10] <daMaestro> DarienWork, there is a bug, yes
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:16] <daMaestro> DarienWork, there is also a patch to fix the bug
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:17] <DarienWork> ok
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:20] <DarienWork> oh nice
[12-Sep-2008 00:12:18] <daMaestro> DarienWork, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3416
[12-Sep-2008 00:12:29] <DarienWork> thanks, Google wasn't giving love
[12-Sep-2008 00:15:03] <DarienWork> do I have to restart something before it'll work?
[12-Sep-2008 00:16:02] <DarienWork> ah, there we go
[12-Sep-2008 00:42:21] <DarienWork> ok, is there a quick and easy way to tell Zenoss 'monitor these ports on this server'?
[12-Sep-2008 00:42:36] <DarienWork> because right now I'm going around in circles, I've added IP Services for a bunch of ports but when I add them nothing happens
[12-Sep-2008 00:44:19] <DarienWork> as in, they don't show up in the list at all
[12-Sep-2008 00:45:40] <DarienWork> I wish sj7trunks were here, he's my hero </3
[12-Sep-2008 01:04:03] <sj7trunks> lol
[12-Sep-2008 01:04:40] <sj7trunks> thanks DarienWork:)
[12-Sep-2008 01:05:15] <sj7trunks> was working on pushing a release and a postgresql backup/verification script
[12-Sep-2008 01:05:37] <DarienWork> sounds like fun
[12-Sep-2008 01:05:41] <DarienWork> I need to write one of those too
[12-Sep-2008 01:06:56] <DarienWork> so I guess I should have had the zenoss-plugins package on the sever i was monitoring, so that's done
[12-Sep-2008 01:07:37] <sj7trunks> ah
[12-Sep-2008 01:07:42] <sj7trunks> i use snmp for everything
[12-Sep-2008 01:08:13] <sj7trunks> i may graduate to ssh one of these days... not sure if it's an open connection every 5 minutes or persistent connection
[12-Sep-2008 01:08:27] <DarienWork> looks like it's re-opening it, which I guess is good
[12-Sep-2008 01:08:58] <DarienWork> also I have other servers elsewhere in the world that need love, so I want to get it working in general
[12-Sep-2008 01:10:27] <sj7trunks> i plan on getting a collector for every site that's LB with a master zenoss server
[12-Sep-2008 01:10:41] <DarienWork> we have disparate servers standing on their own in the dark
[12-Sep-2008 01:10:54] <DarienWork> as well as an office and a rack in a data centre
[12-Sep-2008 01:11:07] <sj7trunks> ah
[12-Sep-2008 01:11:12] <DarienWork> I really wish I knew why it was dying on os.getlogin()
[12-Sep-2008 01:11:44] <sj7trunks> did you set the ssh user/pass from the zproperties?
[12-Sep-2008 01:14:15] <sj7trunks> http://dagobah.biz/flash/switchlinux3.swf
[12-Sep-2008 01:14:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Switchlinux3.swf (misc, switch) (at dagobah.biz)
[12-Sep-2008 01:14:25] <sj7trunks> and oldbie but goodie
[12-Sep-2008 01:16:39] <DarienWork> a classic
[12-Sep-2008 01:17:21] <DarienWork> OH YEAH
[12-Sep-2008 01:17:26] <DarienWork> it's finding all the Mongrel processes now
[12-Sep-2008 01:17:53] <sj7trunks> good to hear
[12-Sep-2008 01:24:46] <sj7trunks> i'm out
[12-Sep-2008 01:24:46] <sj7trunks> cheers
[12-Sep-2008 01:25:36] <DarienWork> later
[12-Sep-2008 01:25:39] <DarienWork> thanks for all the help
[12-Sep-2008 02:17:10] <emnaki> Hello there, anyone free right now to answer a question or two about Zenoss?
[12-Sep-2008 02:17:23] <DarienWork> you can ask
[12-Sep-2008 02:19:19] <emnaki> I'm trying out Zenoss, I've setup snmp agent in my Windows 2003 domain controller (properly I think), But when I model the device in Zenoss, only the hard disk component type is shown and my OS and software tabs are empty.
[12-Sep-2008 02:20:07] <emnaki> My Performance graphs for CPU, Free Memory and Paging is working.
[12-Sep-2008 02:23:43] <emnaki> I installed snmp-informant, I am snmp-walk to that, but I can't walk to system.... could that be the problem?
[12-Sep-2008 02:24:50] <DarienWork> dunno
[12-Sep-2008 02:24:59] <DarienWork> so snmp is working on some levels?
[12-Sep-2008 02:25:32] <emnaki> I guess so if I can get the perf graphs. I can snmpwalk too, but not to system.
[12-Sep-2008 02:25:57] <DarienWork> hmm
[12-Sep-2008 02:26:10] <DarienWork> I'm all Linux, so I can't really tell you too much about that
[12-Sep-2008 02:26:21] <emnaki> maybe I am missing core Mibs??
[12-Sep-2008 02:26:52] <emnaki> yeah me too, but people I am working for requested I monitor their windows machines.
[12-Sep-2008 02:37:45] <emnaki> So where should I start looking on the web for information about solving this problem? know of any place where I can find guides on monitoring windowws 2003?
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[12-Sep-2008 02:43:44] <DarienWork> I'm debating between a simple 'not me, sorry' and thinking up some snarky anti-Windows comment
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:09] <emnaki> So is Zenoss not the right solution if I want to monitor windows? would another monitoring tool be better for that?
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:19] <DarienWork> no idea
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:37] <DarienWork> if Windows doesn't work with Zenoss, find an OS that will
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:49] <DarienWork> but people apparently do monitor Windows with Zenoss
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:15] <DarienWork> emnaki: do you have WMI monitoring set up?
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:37] <DarienWork> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#ZenwinMonitoringWindows
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:50] <DarienWork> I assume you've read this
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:53] <adytum-bot> Title: FAQ (English) - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 02:56:20] <emnaki> Actually I haven't, I'll try that now.
[12-Sep-2008 02:56:50] <emnaki> So zenwin is something that runs on Zenoss server or the Windows machine?
[12-Sep-2008 03:00:51] <DarienWork> I think so
[12-Sep-2008 03:12:18] <daMaestro> anyone know how to turn debug mode on?
[12-Sep-2008 03:12:46] <daMaestro> or rather a way to log without debug mode?
[12-Sep-2008 03:13:23] <daMaestro> i see self.factory.msg being used, but it seems i can only set that property
[12-Sep-2008 03:13:51] <daMaestro> ah, log.info() looks good
[12-Sep-2008 03:16:08] <daMaestro> how about starting zenoss in debug mode (so i don't have to restart it when making code changes) .... (btw, buildouts++ #making these things easier)
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[12-Sep-2008 18:21:45] <sn1ffer72> hello
[12-Sep-2008 18:25:37] <Khazwerk> anyone around to help a newb?
[12-Sep-2008 18:26:00] <sto6ma9ch> I'm a n00b myself, but I'll see what I can do.
[12-Sep-2008 18:26:48] <Khazwerk> well, I'm just trying to get a handle on collecting and displaying windows events
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:01] <Khazwerk> I've got several of my servers on zenoss successfully
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:05] <Khazwerk> snmp, wmi working
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:21] <Khazwerk> but as an example, I want any failed login from the security log to show
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:33] <Khazwerk> and they don't seem to be, I'm guessing they're getting filtered out
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:41] <jmp242> They probably are Khazwerk
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:01] <jmp242> By default, Zenoss only grabs warning or higher events from windows
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:05] <Khazwerk> point me in the direction on where to fiddle with it?
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:20] <sto6ma9ch> I use the Syslog functionality of Zenoss to send audit logs.
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:27] <jmp242> You'll want to change the level
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:35] <sto6ma9ch> Not sure if it's the easiest, but it works.
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:38] <jmp242> I'm looking on my install for specifics of the zProperty to change
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:50] <Khazwerk> thanks jmp242
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:33] <jmp242> you need to go to /Devices/Server/Windows
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:39] <jmp242> and zProperties tab
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:40] <jmp242> change
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:41] <jmp242> zWinEventlogMinSeverity
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:49] <jmp242> to 5 to get everythinfg
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:00] <Khazwerk> alright cool, I'll do that
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:03] <Khazwerk> now from the event console
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:08] <jmp242> you might want to bone up on event mapping first, to move uninteresting things to history
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:13] <jmp242> or straight to /Ignore
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:19] <Khazwerk> oh ok
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:40] <jmp242> Unless you do want a record of everything
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:07] <Khazwerk> I guess at first I'm looking to see everything
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:15] <Khazwerk> and then tighten the screws to weed out what I don't want
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:31] <jmp242> right
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:44] <jmp242> then that ought to get you what you want if I'm remembering correctly
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:55] <Khazwerk> should I re-model devices once I make the changes?
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:11] <jmp242> no
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:27] <jmp242> WMI polling doesn't have anything to do with modeling that I can recall
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:37] <jmp242> just wait 15 minutes or so and you ought to start seeing events
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:56] <jmp242> Or, I suppose you could push changes to collectors... or restart zenoss to be sure
[12-Sep-2008 18:33:03] <jmp242> but I don't think it's necessary
[12-Sep-2008 18:34:00] <Khazwerk> alright thanks man
[12-Sep-2008 18:34:10] <Khazwerk> 2nd question for you
[12-Sep-2008 18:34:22] <Khazwerk> best way to pull IIS data from logs without the enterprise pack?
[12-Sep-2008 18:36:28] <jmp242> no idea, I don't use IIS
[12-Sep-2008 18:36:47] <sn1ffer72> has anyone ever made command calls to the cli to report a result as an event?
[12-Sep-2008 18:36:52] <jmp242> Can you send syslogs or send stuff right into the event viewer?
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:08] <Khazwerk> yeah that's what I was playing with actually
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:14] <Khazwerk> I have an epilog client on my iis box
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:17] <Khazwerk> and it'll dump right to zenoss
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:26] <Khazwerk> but it seems that EVERYTHING comes across as an 'error'
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:34] <Khazwerk> so it fills zenoss up with error events
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:34] <sn1ffer72> I wanna run a check via running from the command line
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:36] <jmp242> That's why you want event mapping
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:40] <Khazwerk> which kinda defeats the purpose
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:43] <jmp242> and transforms
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:48] <sn1ffer72> # curl <weburl> | grep "something"
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:51] <Khazwerk> ok time to read up sounds like
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:06] <sn1ffer72> then if something shows up respond back to zenoss as UP
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:19] <sn1ffer72> what is is I should be reading up?
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:27] <Khazwerk> no I mean I need to
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:28] <sn1ffer72> command templates? user commands?
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:30] <jmp242> sn1ffer72: I think that would be something like a Nagios plugin
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:43] <jmp242> That is, I've created a command datasource
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:44] <Khazwerk> I need to read up on mapping and transforms
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:02] <sn1ffer72> do I need nagios to use a nagiosplugin?
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:04] <jmp242> that then gets a webpage and greps it for some data
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:17] <jmp242> and returns a number like a Nagios plugin does
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:18] <sn1ffer72> cuz I am attempting to use zenoss to get rid of nagios
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:26] <jmp242> Zenoss can use Nagios Plugins
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:44] <jmp242> so I was able to graph that
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:50] <jmp242> I've also used a command datasource
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:04] <jmp242> to use smbclient to connect to a server to make sure its share was accessable
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:17] <jmp242> and when that fails, Zenoss automatically generates an error cmd/fail
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:28] <jmp242> I haven't, but could, map that to something more specific if I wanted to
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:45] <sn1ffer72> is this it?
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:45] <sn1ffer72> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:48] <jmp242> but it does tell me, by e-mail whith alerting, that the system is down
[12-Sep-2008 18:41:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 18:41:28] <jmp242> yea sn1ffer72
[12-Sep-2008 18:41:36] <jmp242> that looks like an overview
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:08] <jmp242> Make sure you stick the script or plugin in $ZENHOME/libexec
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:15] <jmp242> or Zenoss just WILL NOT run the check
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:16] <sn1ffer72> I only see the nagios check ping zenpack
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:16] <sn1ffer72> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:27] <jmp242> No, you don't need a zenpack for this
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:30] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPack Project Site - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:55] <jmp242> all you need is some script/code that outputs in the Nagios plugin format on the command line
[12-Sep-2008 18:48:06] <sn1ffer72> do you have a sample of that format?
[12-Sep-2008 18:51:25] <jmp242> You can see it on the Zenoss User Forums if you search
[12-Sep-2008 18:57:50] <sn1ffer72> http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/developer-guidelines.html
[12-Sep-2008 19:04:33] <sstringham> Hey there. I am trying to draw graphs of a custom command I am passing through SNMP. The command is returning a "string" type, and I think this is what is messing up the graphs. If I know the return is going to just be an integer, how can I tell zenoss to treat it as such?
[12-Sep-2008 19:04:48] <sstringham> $ snmpwalk -v2c -c public 192.168.1.21 .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.999.101.1
[12-Sep-2008 19:04:48] <sstringham> UCD-SNMP-MIB::ucdavis.999.101.1 = STRING: "61"
[12-Sep-2008 19:05:14] <sstringham> Is what I am getting. Graphing this string gives odd results. Anyone know a quick way around this?
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:02] <kgoedtel> why are you passing a string? are you using pass?
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:08] <sn1ffer72> perhaps use quick print values only -oV
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:19] <sstringham> I am using "exec"
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:24] <kgoedtel> ahh ok
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:26] <sn1ffer72> that princes the values only
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:31] <sn1ffer72> prints
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:44] <sstringham> sn1ffer72: Yeah, but Zenoss still sees it as a string.
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:52] <kgoedtel> i stopped using exec in favor of pass so i could define the data type
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:14] <sn1ffer72> try snmpget if you want 1 value
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:17] <sn1ffer72> instead of snmpwalk
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:42] <sn1ffer72> snmpwalk will work ok if you are going after something in hte system tree that only has 1 ifindex = .0
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:46] <sstringham> What are the tricks to using pass? Don't I have to parse out input values?
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:05] <sstringham> I was using exec because I need to pass the script an argument or 2.
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:20] <kgoedtel> pass is a bit trickier because of how you return values
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:26] <sstringham> (the script is just running an SQL query)
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:37] <sn1ffer72> so if you only wanna return one result from the snmp request use snmpget -v 2c -c community -oV IP ifInOctets.<ifindex>
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:57] <kgoedtel> but the nice thing about it is that you can do as many OIDs as you want in a single pass
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:18] <sstringham> sn1ffer72: right, but that isn't the problem. the problem is how zenoss interprets the SNMP data it returns. I could get it with telnet and still have the same problem with zenoss misinterpreting the data.
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:20] <sn1ffer72> try... not sure how you would graph them all in zenoss at the same time though
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:51] <sn1ffer72> so are you trying to return a single datapoint to zen?
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:57] <sstringham> Yes.
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:25] <sn1ffer72> and your command script returns just 1 value such as a number?
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:28] <sstringham> Using the "exec $OIDNUM /path/to/script.sh $ARGUMENT" setup in snmpd.conf
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:41] <sstringham> Yes, the only return is the one number.
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:54] <sn1ffer72> i got nothing then
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:56] <sn1ffer72> sorry
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:58] <kgoedtel> lol
[12-Sep-2008 19:12:16] <kgoedtel> i had the same problem with exec, hence why i stopped using it and switched to pass
[12-Sep-2008 19:12:41] <kgoedtel> i am fairly certain there is a documented workaround for exec on the forums though
[12-Sep-2008 19:13:12] <sstringham> I guess I could make it exit($value), and have zen graph that.
[12-Sep-2008 19:13:21] <sstringham> But that seems rather kludgy.
[12-Sep-2008 19:14:01] <kgoedtel> also i usually put those lines in snmpd.local.conf instead of snmpd.conf
[12-Sep-2008 19:14:33] <kgoedtel> keep the snmpd.conf pristine :]
[12-Sep-2008 19:16:24] <jmp242> Any big reason not to do this as a command data source that uses snmpwalk ...
[12-Sep-2008 19:16:49] <jmp242> and then return the single value to be graphed? I've been doing this rather successfully for 2 or three monitored things
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:02] <kgoedtel> that seems extra messy
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:17] <kgoedtel> instead of just using it as an snmp oid source
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:28] <jmp242> Hmmm
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:45] <kgoedtel> like if you are templating it
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:47] <jmp242> yea, I haven't ever tried what it looks like you are doing
[12-Sep-2008 19:18:21] <sstringham> kgoedtel: do you have a sample pass script I could use/modify to my needs?
[12-Sep-2008 19:18:23] <kgoedtel> i use it quite a bit personally
[12-Sep-2008 19:18:58] <sstringham> hmm, and it doesn't seem that "pass" will accept any arguments.
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:18] <sstringham> I would rather not have a different script on each of the 30+ machines this needs to go on.
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:21] <jmp242> So wait - you're running the script on the remote systems and having them pass that to net-snmp? so in Zenoss you're only seeing it as an OID you pull (you're not running any script on zenoss)
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:40] <sstringham> jmp242: correct.
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:47] <jmp242> I see. Yea, I've never done that
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:07] <jmp242> what I did was make a script on Zenoss that I could pass as arguments the {dev/manageIp}
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:19] <jmp242> etc, so I could be generic(ish)
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:39] <sstringham> Yeah, that won't work as the zenoss server doesn't have access to these external machines besides reading SNMP data.
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:59] <kgoedtel> yeah my script runs on each applicable server
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:59] <jmp242> so only snmp, no SSH...
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:10] <kgoedtel> it allows me to do much more complex things :]
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:14] <jmp242> interesting, never tried what you're doing (trying to be "agentless")
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:25] <kgoedtel> i graph tons and tons of NFS statistics
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:59] <jmp242> Maybe post in Zenoss-Users?
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:07] <jmp242> or ping cluther
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:10] <jmp242> he might know
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:19] <sstringham> kgoedtel: it sounds like you are doing a similar thing to what I need.
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:21] <kgoedtel> cluther would definitely know
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:26] <kgoedtel> i originally got my ideas from him
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:41] <kgoedtel> one sec i made a post about it along time ago
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:08] <kgoedtel> zenoss forums limiting my searches :[
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:26] <sstringham> Meh, I will just have the return value be the number of calls. retval is 32-bit anyway.
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:41] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11632&highlight=#11632
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Custom threshold using snmp oid value (at community.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 19:24:29] <kgoedtel> ignore most of it, it is pretty hackish
[12-Sep-2008 19:26:48] <cluther> sstringham: What version are you on? There was a fix in 2.2.1 to allow zenperfsnmp to handle numeric data coming back in string format.
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:38] <sstringham> 2.2.0.
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:43] <kgoedtel> ah hah!
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:44] <cluther> heh.
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:44] <sstringham> I should can has upgrade I guess.
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:03] <cluther> Or just "zenpatch 9390" and restart zenperfsnmp
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:04] <kgoedtel> get with the times jeez
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:07] <cluther> oops.. typo
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:09] <cluther> zenpatch 9490
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:18] <jmp242> I'm still on 2.1.2 darn it
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:34] <kgoedtel> i like to cut myself on the razor edge
[12-Sep-2008 19:30:01] <jmp242> Yea, but I saw lots of bugs with 2.2.0-2.2.3. ... hoping to go to 2.2.4 if it comes out next week
[12-Sep-2008 19:30:42] <sstringham> thanks cluther. Trying now.
[12-Sep-2008 19:34:29] <sstringham> Is there an easy way to reset the graph? I have 20-30 datapoints in the 300M range
[12-Sep-2008 19:36:37] <kgoedtel> delete your rrd file
[12-Sep-2008 19:37:07] <sstringham> unbinding/rebinding to see if that works
[12-Sep-2008 19:37:15] <sstringham> will delete rrd file next. Thanks though.
[12-Sep-2008 19:38:01] <sj7trunks> doot doot
[12-Sep-2008 19:51:50] <DarienWork> so yeah, OS processes are flipping out for some reason
[12-Sep-2008 19:53:47] <DarienWork> when I model a machine, all the processes show up, but then within a minute or two, they all show up as errors
[12-Sep-2008 20:15:34] <Linux50> hello everyone. Just wondering if someone could tell me the difference between the zenoss stack and the zenoss core
[12-Sep-2008 20:16:15] <jmp242> Linux50:
[12-Sep-2008 20:16:20] <jmp242> They are the same
[12-Sep-2008 20:16:47] <jmp242> Stack is an installer, RPM, DEB are packages for your package manager, and Zenoss Core is the actual product name
[12-Sep-2008 20:17:40] <Linux50> So if Im installing on Rhel 5.1 do I use the stack or core?
[12-Sep-2008 20:19:45] <jmp242> Depends
[12-Sep-2008 20:20:28] <jmp242> do you want to manage it youself (MySql, dependancies, certain customizations...) or just have it "work" for certain values of work?
[12-Sep-2008 20:20:52] <jmp242> Stack installs most everything and gets it working, but has some limitations and does not use the distro package manager
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:01] <jmp242> RPM is standard Red Hat
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:37] <Linux50> so what would you use?
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:49] <kgoedtel> rpm
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:52] <kgoedtel> for rhel
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:58] <Linux50> yes
[12-Sep-2008 20:22:24] <kgoedtel> expecially if you have RHN or are using repos to manage your packages
[12-Sep-2008 20:22:28] <kgoedtel> especially*
[12-Sep-2008 20:22:51] <Linux50> what are the limitations?
[12-Sep-2008 20:23:09] <kgoedtel> you need to get the dependencies yourself (via repos)
[12-Sep-2008 20:24:44] <kgoedtel> advantage being that your dependencies are now all managed by your system's package manager
[12-Sep-2008 20:31:59] <sstringham> Linux50: The dependencies are really easy to work out though. I have always used the RPMs on our RedHat machines.
[12-Sep-2008 20:34:06] <sn1ffer72> I made a command called check_coyote_ping
[12-Sep-2008 20:34:22] <sn1ffer72> It returns Coyote Ping OK
[12-Sep-2008 20:34:46] <sn1ffer72> I went to the device -> Templates -> performance templates
[12-Sep-2008 20:35:09] <sn1ffer72> create one.. selected COMMAND -> put the check_coyote_ping in there
[12-Sep-2008 20:35:14] <sn1ffer72> I am now getting this message
[12-Sep-2008 20:35:15] <sn1ffer72> Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins
[12-Sep-2008 20:38:21] <Linux50> has anyone ever deleted a device from zenoss then tried to re-add it and it not show up in the device-list?
[12-Sep-2008 20:44:57] <sn1ffer72> has anyone else ever seen this error message?
[12-Sep-2008 21:01:40] <sn1ffer72> have a good weekend
[12-Sep-2008 21:06:29] <sstringham> Is there an easy way to rearrange the graphs in the 'perf' tab of a device?
[12-Sep-2008 21:06:48] <sstringham> as each graph comes from a different template, how is the order determined?
[12-Sep-2008 21:08:12] <sstringham> Ah, just based on the name.
[12-Sep-2008 21:08:33] <sstringham> Fair enough, the names are free-form, I can just prepend "01" or whatev.r
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[13-Sep-2008 05:13:43] <Tadaka> I'm getting an error when upgrading to 2.2 on the zendmd step
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:05] <Tadaka> >>> from Products.ZenWidgets.ZenossPortlets.ZenossPortlets \
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> ... import register_default_portlets
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> >>> register_default_portlets(zport.ZenPortletManager)
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:08] <Tadaka> AttributeError: ZenPortletManager
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[14-Sep-2008 13:13:48] <Xanthaos> Hi everyone. I'm running fc8 redhat and have taken an interestin the Zenoss NetMgmt software. The version I dl from SourceForge I have been told is for enterprise linux not fedora. Can someone help me?
[14-Sep-2008 13:14:53] <MrTux> Xanthaos: have a look at zenoss.com, documentation section
[14-Sep-2008 13:19:04] <Xanthaos> To narrow down my search under docs what am I looking for there? Admin guide, Install guide, FAQ's....
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[15-Sep-2008 12:52:07] <malbon> @zenoss-devs: patch for #3249 added to ticket.
[15-Sep-2008 12:52:07] <adytum-bot> malbon: Error: 'zenoss-devs:' is not a valid command.
[15-Sep-2008 12:59:51] <MrTux> isn't mray no longer here?
[15-Sep-2008 14:42:29] <sn1ffer72> Morning
[15-Sep-2008 14:42:57] <sn1ffer72> Same question as friday.. has anyone else seen this message when trying to call a nagiosplugin command call?
[15-Sep-2008 14:42:58] <sn1ffer72> Msg: Misuse of shell builtins
[15-Sep-2008 14:44:08] <sn1ffer72> from the command line I get the correct result that my script is trying to run
[15-Sep-2008 14:44:22] <sn1ffer72> Coyote Ping OK
[15-Sep-2008 14:47:44] <jmp242> can't say that I have sn1ffer72
[15-Sep-2008 14:49:14] <nemo_> damn people actually use the nagios plugs
[15-Sep-2008 14:53:16] <C_Kode> For some reason my Zenoss isn't charting (performance graphs) my network interfaces anymore. (SonicWall TZ190s and Kemp Technologies LM-1500s)
[15-Sep-2008 14:53:48] <C_Kode> It used to do this, but for some reason just stopped.
[15-Sep-2008 15:00:07] <jmp242> any errors in the log files C_Kode?
[15-Sep-2008 15:00:16] <jmp242> are your RRD files being updated?
[15-Sep-2008 15:00:54] <C_Kode> I wiped out the entire device and deleted all data and re-added them. They seem to be working now.
[15-Sep-2008 15:02:02] <C_Kode> Of course, that isn't something I want to be doing every few weeks.
[15-Sep-2008 15:02:04] <jmp242> Sounds like one of the configuration files may have gotten confused
[15-Sep-2008 15:02:15] <jmp242> IIRC, .pickle files may be at fault here
[15-Sep-2008 15:03:03] <jmp242> Did this just happen, or were you playing around with the Zenoss Config at the time (i.e. could you maybe have messed up filesystem permissions with a new datasource etc)
[15-Sep-2008 15:05:18] <C_Kode> Actually, I noticed it about 2 weeks ago, but was busy with putting out some other fires and didn't mess with it at the time. Today we started experiencing what appeared to be bandwidth congestion and I wasn't able to see what was happening
[15-Sep-2008 15:05:56] <C_Kode> It's possible I tried to change something in the past that may have screwed it up.
[15-Sep-2008 15:07:26] <jmp242> If it happens again, I would look at trying by clearing the pickle file first.
[15-Sep-2008 15:07:42] <jmp242> in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/devicename
[15-Sep-2008 15:07:52] <jmp242> and I mean, delete the .pickle file
[15-Sep-2008 15:09:26] <nemo_> yawn
[15-Sep-2008 15:10:43] <C_Kode> I will try that.
[15-Sep-2008 15:10:46] <C_Kode> Thanks.
[15-Sep-2008 17:53:54] <sn1ffer72> does anyone have a custom "command" that they created working?
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:20] <jmp242> sn1ffer72:
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:22] <jmp242> Depends
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:33] <jmp242> Do you mean one that's running as a data source/
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:34] <jmp242> ?
[15-Sep-2008 17:58:50] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:06] <sn1ffer72> only on one node
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:12] <sn1ffer72> so I go into the node
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:15] <sn1ffer72> select Templates
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:23] <jmp242> yes
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:29] <sn1ffer72> I mean "more" -> Templates
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:38] <sn1ffer72> Add Template
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:52] <sn1ffer72> then datasource "check_coyote_svcs"
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:01] <sn1ffer72> command template
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:09] <sn1ffer72> /home/zenoos/libexec/check_coyote_ping
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:29] <sn1ffer72> name and component = check_coyote_svcs"
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:32] <sn1ffer72> Enabled = True
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:36] <sn1ffer72> SSh = False
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:44] <sn1ffer72> event class /Cmd/Fail
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:48] <sn1ffer72> Event Key blank
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:52] <sn1ffer72> Severity = warning
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:54] <sn1ffer72> cycle time = 300
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:08] <sn1ffer72> when I run that script from the cli it works fine
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:31] <sn1ffer72> I did not need to specify a host -H flag because it is hardcoded into that command script
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:31] <jmp242> Is /home/zenoss $ZENHOME?
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:37] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:46] <jmp242> is the script executable?
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:19] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:23] <sn1ffer72> all 777
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:30] <sn1ffer72> this is the summary output
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:31] <sn1ffer72> Cmd: /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:55] <jmp242> hmmm....
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:06] <sn1ffer72> I know...killing me
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:07] <jmp242> I have simpleish scripts working ok set up like you have
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:19] <jmp242> can you pastebin your script?
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:24] <sn1ffer72> sure
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:34] <jmp242> are you passing any arguments to the script?
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:47] <sn1ffer72> nope
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:48] <sn1ffer72> no need
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:51] <jmp242> what does the output from the CLI look like?
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:57] <jmp242> when it works
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:02] <sn1ffer72> Coyote Ping OK
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:20] <jmp242> hmmm
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:32] <jmp242> That might be part of it, but I don't know about the shell builtins
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:55] <sn1ffer72> I am actually using the COMMAND datasource
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:01] <sn1ffer72> instead of specifiying a 'built-in'
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:16] <jmp242> Yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:21] <jmp242> I mean the error you get
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:33] <jmp242> Msg: Misuse of shell builtins - I've never seen that
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:17] <sn1ffer72> I know
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:33] <sn1ffer72> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20625
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:44] <jmp242> Are you trying to just get OK or fail?
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:46] <sn1ffer72> that references http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3201
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP monitor zenpack (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:57] <jmp242> For graphing, I usually have an output:
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:57] <jmp242> Datasource|Datapoint=value
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:00] <sn1ffer72> just trying to report the output to the event screen
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:27] <jmp242> Alternatively, for a pass/fail
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:32] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:39] <jmp242> I've only done something where i run smbclient for instnace
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:50] <jmp242> and that program will auto pass a fail to connect for me
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:56] <jmp242> triggering the /cmd/fail . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:13] <jmp242> so you need to have your script return non 0 . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:13] <sn1ffer72> what do you get back as a return
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:24] <sn1ffer72> my guess is that perhaps it should print more back to the screen
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:27] <sn1ffer72> just as
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:33] <sn1ffer72> Ping Coyote OK
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:34] <sn1ffer72> exit 1
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:53] <jmp242> let me check what I've got
[15-Sep-2008 18:11:37] <jmp242> Ok
[15-Sep-2008 18:11:58] <jmp242> code: /usr/bin/smbclient //vpn214/route -U user%pass -c exit; echo $?
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:17] <jmp242> so - that for instance outputs:
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:32] <jmp242> Domain=[VPN214] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.9-1.3E.14.3]
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:32] <jmp242> 0
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:38] <jmp242> Return 0 I believe
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:41] <jmp242> when it fails . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:51] <sn1ffer72> ok so your output is multi-line?
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:53] <jmp242> I get non 0 on the command line, and Zenoss treats it as a failure
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:08] <jmp242> Well, when I use the run command in Zenoss for the command, that's what I get
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:38] <jmp242> yea, on the CLI it's multi line as well
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:47] <jmp242> I think it's looking for that 0 for OK
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:52] <sn1ffer72> when I run the zencommand -d hostname
[15-Sep-2008 18:14:03] <sn1ffer72> it runs the command and outputs what I want
[15-Sep-2008 18:14:10] <sn1ffer72> but when I run it via the GUI
[15-Sep-2008 18:15:20] <sn1ffer72> It actually chokes as if it cannot find a perl module
[15-Sep-2008 18:15:21] <sn1ffer72> Can't locate utils.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ~zenoss/libexec /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/ve
[15-Sep-2008 18:15:58] <sn1ffer72> /usr/libexec/utils.pm
[15-Sep-2008 18:16:21] <sn1ffer72> /home/zenoss/libexec -> ../../usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:16:41] <sn1ffer72> so the ZENHOME references the libexec symlink to /usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:16:49] <sn1ffer72> and the perl module is in the /usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:11] <sn1ffer72> now I am running:
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:17] <sn1ffer72> from the CLI
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:25] <sn1ffer72> zencommand run -d <hostname> -v10
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:51] <sn1ffer72> this is in turn running all of the checks on the node as if
[15-Sep-2008 18:19:33] <sn1ffer72> ok now from the CLI zencommand I am getting the same silly output
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:11] <jmp242> That's beyond me . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:38] <jmp242> It sounds like an install issue ... I assume you're using 2.2.3? They changed a bunch there compared to 2.1.2
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Received exit code: 2
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Command: '/bin/sh -c exec /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping'
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Output: ''
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Process check_coyote_ping stopped (2), 0.324475 elapsed
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:The result of "/home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping" was ""
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:00] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Sending event {'severity': 4, 'message': 'Cmd: /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins', 'component': 'check_coyote_svcs', 'agent': 'zencommand', 'summary': 'Cmd: /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins', 'manager': 'localhost', 'eventKey': 'check_coyote_svcs', 'device': 'oms.ad.corporate.local', 'eventClass': '/Cmd/Fail', 'performanc
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:07] <sn1ffer72> sorry for all of the pasts
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:09] <sn1ffer72> pastes
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:26] <sn1ffer72> this install was out of the box
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:34] <sn1ffer72> via a VMWare appliance
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:36] <sn1ffer72> that they setup
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:57] <sn1ffer72> 2.2.3
[15-Sep-2008 18:22:11] <jmp242> Hmmm. Well, hopefully Chet can comment, or someone more versed in the perl issue than I am
[15-Sep-2008 18:22:36] <sn1ffer72> thanks
[15-Sep-2008 18:22:39] <sn1ffer72>
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:46] <isotope> how do I associte an ip service with a group?
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:46] <isotope> I created a custom ip service and a group
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:46] <isotope> just need to glue the two together
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:47] <sn1ffer72> I think it is an enviromental thing
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:52] <sn1ffer72> I just went into /usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:56] <sn1ffer72> ran the utils.sh
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:03] <sn1ffer72> that is right next to the utils.om
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:05] <sn1ffer72> .pm
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:17] <sn1ffer72> and then ran the zencommand again
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:22] <jmp242> isotope: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25074#25074
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:24] <jmp242> does that help?
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:26] <sn1ffer72> and it's output looks good
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - IP Service for Device Group (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:56] <jmp242> If you do figure this out sn1ffer72 - can you post it up on the Wiki for others getting the error?
[15-Sep-2008 18:26:16] <sn1ffer72> sure
[15-Sep-2008 18:26:27] <sn1ffer72> I think I may have it
[15-Sep-2008 18:26:46] <sn1ffer72> gonna add this to the zencommand /usr/libexec/utils.sh;<the rest of thecommand>
[15-Sep-2008 18:28:56] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Command: '/bin/sh -c exec /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping'
[15-Sep-2008 18:28:56] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Output: 'Coyote Ping OK\n'
[15-Sep-2008 18:29:44] <jmp242> Yea, sounds like somehow that's not getting in your path . . . you should not need to do that
[15-Sep-2008 18:29:58] <sn1ffer72> I agree.
[15-Sep-2008 18:32:13] <isotope> jmp242
[15-Sep-2008 18:32:15] <isotope> thanks
[15-Sep-2008 18:40:42] <sto6ma9ch> Quick question: Can zeopack.py be run when the Zenoss services are not running?
[15-Sep-2008 18:42:46] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: zeoctl and zopectl must be running
[15-Sep-2008 18:42:50] <sto6ma9ch> Gotcha, thanks!
[15-Sep-2008 18:43:36] <sto6ma9ch> Also, is there a certain amount of disk space that zeopack.py will need to run?
[15-Sep-2008 18:45:46] <sto6ma9ch> The Zenoss partition is 100 GB, and 98 GB are used.
[15-Sep-2008 18:45:46] <DarienWork> it shouldn't need 2GB
[15-Sep-2008 18:46:01] <sto6ma9ch> Sounds good. Thanks.
[15-Sep-2008 18:48:34] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: it's usually completely run in ram
[15-Sep-2008 18:48:35] <sto6ma9ch> I see. I was originally running it with the services shut off since the disc space is so scarce. After two days, I thought something may be wrong.
[15-Sep-2008 18:48:35] <sto6ma9ch> Anyway, both services are running, and zeopack.py is going. Thanks for the help.
[15-Sep-2008 19:24:40] <jeld> Hi all
[15-Sep-2008 19:25:09] <jeld> anyone tried writing additional syslog parsing regexes into SyslogProcessing.py ?
[15-Sep-2008 19:33:41] <jeld> I have a foundry network device that sends messages which are not parsed right
[15-Sep-2008 19:57:53] <sn1ffer72> GOT IT
[15-Sep-2008 19:58:08] <sn1ffer72> my script did not have the proper use lib "/home/zenoss/libexec" in it
[15-Sep-2008 19:58:20] <sn1ffer72> it had use lib "~zenoss/libexec"
[15-Sep-2008 19:58:33] <sn1ffer72> apparently it did not dig shorthand
[15-Sep-2008 20:00:41] <afm> afternoon all (least where i'm at)
[15-Sep-2008 20:06:42] <jmp242> sn1ffer72: what about $ZENHOME/libexec ?
[15-Sep-2008 20:06:49] <jmp242> I think that's actually the best practice
[15-Sep-2008 20:07:10] <jmp242> for instance, my install is at /opt/zenoss/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 20:07:22] <jmp242> but $ZENHOME/libexec will work there also if the install worked
[15-Sep-2008 20:09:24] <sn1ffer72> good point.. I could try using the zenhome var
[15-Sep-2008 20:09:31] <sn1ffer72> as for the dir layout
[15-Sep-2008 20:09:49] <sn1ffer72> this was setup by them as a VM virtual appliance downloaded from their website
[15-Sep-2008 20:10:00] <sn1ffer72> so I don't want to mess around with where it puts stuff
[15-Sep-2008 20:10:12] <jmp242> I know, and I also have seen lots of issues on the forums with their VM Appliance too
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:17] <sn1ffer72> man
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:29] <sn1ffer72> Ok.. so it runs from both the command line
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:31] <sn1ffer72> and from the GUI
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:48] <sn1ffer72> now it does not report any thing as an even or register as if it is an active component
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:49] <sn1ffer72>
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:53] <sn1ffer72> fun for tomorrow
[15-Sep-2008 21:46:47] <daMaestro> hmm is it known that the ZenTcpClient doesn't properly speak SSL so you can't do a check against https?
[15-Sep-2008 21:47:20] <daMaestro> (you can check to see if the port responds, but the regex check is usless
[15-Sep-2008 21:47:23] <daMaestro> useless*
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[15-Sep-2008 22:08:29] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3740
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[16-Sep-2008 09:47:24] <uwe> hello, im trying to get trap 1.2.840.10036.1.6.0.2 ... so i'm trying to load IEEE802dot11-MIB.mib ... so i used the command (in order to fulfill dependencies) zenmib run SNMPv2-SMI.txt SNMPv2-TC.txt SNMPv2-CONF.txt RFC1213-MIB.txt IEEE802dot11-MIB.mib RFC1155-SMI.txt RFC-1212.txt RFC1158-MIB.txt ... but it skips RFC1185-MIB ! i tried to put the RFC1185-mib file twice at the end, i got segmentation fault !
[16-Sep-2008 09:48:14] <uwe> now i try to load ietf mibs and i get even more segmentation faults !! im running zenoss on debian etch
[16-Sep-2008 09:59:03] <uwe> um, let me ask the question diffrently, what do i need to do in order to translate the trap 1.2.840.10036.1.6.0.2
[16-Sep-2008 10:07:51] <emnaki> Anyone free to answer a question about Zenoss, I'm having problems with wmi.
[16-Sep-2008 10:12:24] <nemo_> emnaki, tip ask your question, dont ask about asking a question, you wont get a reply.
[16-Sep-2008 10:13:04] <emnaki> ok
[16-Sep-2008 10:13:45] <emnaki> When I try to model my device it gives me this warning: 2008-09-16 08:06:09 WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler skipping slafp1.internal.standardlife.hk has bad wmi state
[16-Sep-2008 10:15:35] <emnaki> It doesn't fill in my OS and Software tabs, but I can see the CPU, Free Memory, Paging performance charts
[16-Sep-2008 10:15:53] <nemo_> have you tried testing in on the cli
[16-Sep-2008 10:16:02] <nemo_> wine.exe options etc
[16-Sep-2008 10:16:41] <emnaki> Sorry I don't know how to do what you are suggesting.
[16-Sep-2008 10:16:59] <emnaki> new to network monitoring
[16-Sep-2008 10:17:24] <emnaki> I'm trying to monitor a windows 2003 DC
[16-Sep-2008 10:24:24] <emnaki> Do you mean win.exe? I can't seem to find wine.exe which is related to Zenoss.
[16-Sep-2008 10:25:12] <malbon_> emnaki: download the WMI tools from Microsoft to your workstation, then use those to connect to the DC using the username/password you want zenoss to use
[16-Sep-2008 10:25:48] <emnaki> wbemtest?
[16-Sep-2008 10:25:54] <malbon_> emnaki: then worry about the zenoss side.
[16-Sep-2008 10:26:21] <malbon_> emnaki: I use WMI Object Browser which is part of WMI tools from Microsoft.
[16-Sep-2008 10:26:55] <malbon_> emnaki: you can find it here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6430f853-1120-48db-8cc5-f2abdc3ed314&displaylang=en
[16-Sep-2008 10:29:51] <malbon_> emnaki: to get zenoss to try again you need to move the WMI event for that device to history.
[16-Sep-2008 10:31:43] <emnaki> Oh geez I didn't know that, so basically all my experiements up to now were useless ;(
[16-Sep-2008 10:32:27] <emnaki> I will have to login to my admin account to install the tools, will be back soon.
[16-Sep-2008 10:32:28] <malbon_> emnaki: 90% of WMI problems are due to credentials, but it isn't easy to track down.
[16-Sep-2008 10:32:44] <malbon_> emnaki: Run As?
[16-Sep-2008 10:33:18] <emnaki> hehe you know I am a linux person now. I will try run as.
[16-Sep-2008 10:34:36] <malbon_> emnaki: I am a UNIX SA, but it's better to know the enemy as so to speak.
[16-Sep-2008 10:39:46] <emnaki> Win32: The RPC server is unavaliable.
[16-Sep-2008 11:35:20] <nemo_> emnaki, like this :
[16-Sep-2008 11:35:37] <nemo_> winexe -A /tmp/zenwinperf-MLerHvLv //192.168.137.130 typeperf -si 300 -sc 5 "\Memory\Available bytes" "\System\Context Switches/sec" "\Processor(_Total)\Interrupts/sec" "\Processor(_Total)\% Privileged Time" "\System\Processor Queue Length" "\System\System Up Time" "\Processor(_Total)\% processor time" "\Processor(_Total)\% User Time"
[16-Sep-2008 11:36:03] <nemo_> thats how zenoss sends wmi requests to windows hosts
[16-Sep-2008 11:36:12] <nemo_> if you cant do it on the cli , zenoss cant either
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[16-Sep-2008 11:38:31] <epablo> Hi Zenoss
[16-Sep-2008 11:39:36] <epablo> Anyone have a couple of minutes to help me out with a problem with template?
[16-Sep-2008 11:44:04] <tarjei> epablo: state your problem, if someone can help you they will.
[16-Sep-2008 11:45:30] <epablo> Each time I try to create/edit a template zopectl dies
[16-Sep-2008 11:47:41] <epablo> When that happens I get the following event in the zeo.log
[16-Sep-2008 11:47:41] <epablo> 2008-09-15T16:26:02 INFO ZEO.StorageServer (24557/127.0.0.1:34239)
[16-Sep-2008 11:47:41] <epablo> disconnected
[16-Sep-2008 12:23:47] <tarjei> epablo: you should probably check file permissions and consider making a post to the forums.
[16-Sep-2008 12:24:45] <epablo> tarjei: thanks. I did both. I was hoping this would be a quicker more interactive way of troubleshooting the problem.
[16-Sep-2008 12:25:42] <epablo> tarjei: it's weird. Everything else works and I'm using the centOS rpm. So all was practically done by the scripts
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:14] <tarjei> epablo: try to increase the logging on the box.
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:19] <tarjei> epablo: are you using selinux?
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:31] <tarjei> if so, try disabling it.
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:43] <epablo> nope I'm not using it
[16-Sep-2008 12:28:16] <tarjei> hmm, then it's a) hunt for better logging, b) run strace on the process or c) run the process in gdb or d) post the results of a - c to the forums
[16-Sep-2008 12:29:34] <jmp242> In /Devices/Server/Windows is Zenoss using SNMP for the Software tab?
[16-Sep-2008 12:47:55] <epablo> tarjei: ok I'll try that
[16-Sep-2008 13:43:09] <jb> is anybody monitoring IBM xSeries boxes?
[16-Sep-2008 13:46:43] <Han> Howcome the snmpwalk command from the `run commands' menu doesn't use the port I set in the preferences
[16-Sep-2008 13:47:14] <jb> modify the command.. Settings -> Commands
[16-Sep-2008 13:47:38] <Han> lets see
[16-Sep-2008 13:49:03] <Han> jb, what have you got there?
[16-Sep-2008 14:03:16] <Han> where can I find the list with variables? I can't find it in the zenoss guide.
[16-Sep-2008 14:05:13] <Han> ``snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp}:${here/managePort} system'' fails
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:07] <jeld> hello all
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:39] <jmp242> hi jeld
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:41] <jeld> I was wondering, is there a way to have a custom script or command ran as a check and alert if it fails?
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:54] <jmp242> yes
[16-Sep-2008 16:07:34] <jeld> jmp242, for example, I would like to do network checks on some services beyond simple TCP ping
[16-Sep-2008 16:07:35] <jmp242> set it up as a command datasource
[16-Sep-2008 16:08:46] <jeld> jmp242, hmm... where is that in the interface?
[16-Sep-2008 16:10:20] <jeld> jmp242, ah! got it
[16-Sep-2008 16:10:22] <jeld> sorry
[16-Sep-2008 16:14:39] <jeld> I have a MySQL OSProcess monitored on my database servers, but it doesn't (for some reason) use the MySQL ZenPack. How do I switch it to use that?
[16-Sep-2008 16:24:28] <jmp242> Did you bind the zenpack to that server or to a class that contains the server?
[16-Sep-2008 16:31:18] <jeld> How do I bind a template to an individual server? Or even better to a group of servers?
[16-Sep-2008 16:31:59] <jeld> And is there a way to see template bindings in effect?
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:00] <jmp242> Well, for a class, you go to that class from /Devices/Server/
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:09] <jmp242> or whatever
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:20] <jmp242> and then go to templates, use the dropdown
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:25] <jmp242> and say Bind Templates
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:46] <jmp242> then using ctrl-click, you select other templates you want bound (don't want to unbind the defaults usually)
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:50] <jmp242> say OK
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:51] <jmp242> and done
[16-Sep-2008 16:33:16] <jmp242> for a specific device, you bring up the device use the dropdown, more, templates ...
[16-Sep-2008 16:33:17] <jmp242> and same
[16-Sep-2008 16:34:09] <jeld> well, I have been screwing around with template bindings and now I don't know what I have bound and where, how do I check what the actual bindings are?
[16-Sep-2008 16:36:14] <jmp242> You can find out from the same view on a class or device basis - what is pre selected is bound there
[16-Sep-2008 16:36:52] <jmp242> I'm not aware of a list that would show all classes and systems and what's bound to them on one screen
[16-Sep-2008 16:37:05] <jmp242> the forum did have a post about this several months ago that might help
[16-Sep-2008 16:37:52] <jeld> ah! so if I just click the "Bind templates" menu, whatever is selected is bound?
[16-Sep-2008 16:41:03] <jmp242> yes
[16-Sep-2008 16:46:06] <jeld> I think I just attained a higher level of ZenOSS enlightenment, thank you jmp242
[16-Sep-2008 16:47:12] <jeld> I do have another question though, how do Products work? I cannot seem to be able to map software to a device in any way
[16-Sep-2008 16:49:47] <jmp242> Mmm, I don't use Zenoss for software tracking - I think all that info is set by what SNMP shows
[16-Sep-2008 16:49:56] <jmp242> that is, set via SNMP from the client
[16-Sep-2008 16:52:10] <jeld> jmp242, yes, I thought it would, but it doesn't seem to do that
[16-Sep-2008 16:52:12] <jeld> anyway
[16-Sep-2008 17:08:19] <jeld> hmm... after messing with templates the Perf page crashes on all devices...
[16-Sep-2008 17:36:25] <jeld> seems like FileSystem template is broken
[16-Sep-2008 17:37:32] <jeld> it expects hrStorageUsed to be in %, but it is actually number of used blocks
[16-Sep-2008 17:38:34] <`m3> i make a transform to reformat it , google on it theres plenty
[16-Sep-2008 17:38:39] <`m3> i agree the default sucks btw
[16-Sep-2008 17:39:37] <jeld> `m3, interesting, I am looking in the forums at the moment. I would need to add some extra datapoints and THEN do a transform I guess
[16-Sep-2008 17:44:42] <`m3> is it like that from a latest install ?
[16-Sep-2008 17:44:53] <`m3> i upgraded , i think its causing me lots of old issues
[16-Sep-2008 17:45:05] <`m3> might actually reinstall / reimport the data
[16-Sep-2008 17:45:34] <jeld> 2.2.3 fresh from RPM
[16-Sep-2008 17:45:35] <`m3> but i want to make sure that transforms and user preferences are saved
[16-Sep-2008 17:47:26] <jeld> `m3, BTW, do you know, if it is smart enough to figure out lists of values? I mean HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed is a list of used blocks in all file systems
[16-Sep-2008 17:53:18] <`m3> for me 100% blocks =100% full time
[16-Sep-2008 17:54:28] <jeld> this is my problem http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[16-Sep-2008 17:56:55] <jeld> ${here/totalBlocks},/,100,*
[16-Sep-2008 17:57:04] <jeld> this looks weird
[16-Sep-2008 17:57:19] <jeld> WTF is here
[16-Sep-2008 18:00:34] <jeld> this is fascinating... if I go to the OS page for the device and click on the file system, I see the graphs and all... but not if I go to Perf page
[16-Sep-2008 18:02:02] <jmp242> perf page isn't supposed to show the filesystem graphs
[16-Sep-2008 18:02:21] <jmp242> I don't know why, but the design is that memory/cpu and stuff you add goes to perf
[16-Sep-2008 18:02:37] <jmp242> filesystem, NIC go on links from OS page
[16-Sep-2008 18:07:52] <jeld> jmp242, well, it still crashes the Perf page if I bind the FileSystem template
[16-Sep-2008 18:11:41] <jmp242> you should not bind the filesystem template
[16-Sep-2008 18:11:52] <jmp242> that gets chosed automatically by Zenoss
[16-Sep-2008 18:13:52] <jmp242> See:
[16-Sep-2008 18:13:53] <jmp242> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/how-zenoss-chooses-templates
[16-Sep-2008 18:14:06] <adytum-bot> Title: How Zenoss Chooses Templates - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 18:27:31] <`m3> jeld, the stack trace is there when there is no error handling i guess
[16-Sep-2008 18:27:34] <`m3> or less .
[16-Sep-2008 18:28:36] <jeld>
[16-Sep-2008 18:28:41] <jeld> thanx
[16-Sep-2008 18:29:48] <`m3> yw
[16-Sep-2008 18:45:20] <mshundal> hiyas, trying to setup a filesystem util report but filesystem class objects like totalBytesString and usedBytesString are returning UNKNOWN
[16-Sep-2008 18:45:49] <mshundal> anyone know if something else needs to be done before these variable will work?
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:23] <isotope> is there a way to specify multiple community strings?
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:42] <mshundal> yes, zProperties
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:50] <isotope> I have some devices with public but many with a custom readonly string
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:55] <isotope> for devices?
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:07] <mshundal> er in that case divide their path
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:07] <isotope> got it
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:28] <mshundal> so say /devices/pubstring/manage set public here
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:32] <mshundal> etc
[16-Sep-2008 18:50:36] <isotope> so zSnmpCommunity = public/custom
[16-Sep-2008 18:50:53] <isotope> or just list multiple strings in zSnmpCommunities
[16-Sep-2008 18:52:32] <mshundal> im not sure of how it looks for the communities in zSNMPCommunites vs ZSNMPCommunity right below it
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:05] <isotope> yeah not sure what the difference between communities and comminity
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:10] <mshundal> 2nd one might just be default and top one a list to try but deviding the path will work for sure
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:20] <mshundal> divinding*
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:32] <mshundal> ie my linux servers use a diff string than windows
[16-Sep-2008 18:54:10] <mshundal> so /devices/server/linux has a diff string in zproperties than /devices/server/windows
[16-Sep-2008 18:59:23] <isotope> Ah ha
[16-Sep-2008 18:59:32] <isotope> found several posts about this in the forum
[16-Sep-2008 18:59:41] <isotope> glad I'm not the only one confused :-0
[16-Sep-2008 19:00:36] <isotope> found the answer here http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2215&highlight=zsnmpcommunities
[16-Sep-2008 19:01:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Discover devices with snmp community name other than public (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 19:01:10] <isotope> zSnmpCommunities, just list all of the community strings here and zenoss will try them all when modeling
[16-Sep-2008 19:11:54] <sn1ffer72> guys not sure how to post to the the blog on that misuse of builtins issue from yesterday
[16-Sep-2008 19:13:25] <jeld> What is a service key under service properties?
[16-Sep-2008 19:14:40] <isotope> is there a way to batch model
[16-Sep-2008 19:15:44] <jeld> isotope, yes
[16-Sep-2008 19:15:52] <jeld> isotope, su - zenoss
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:00] <jeld> for i in server1 server2; do zendisc run --now -d $i --monitor localhost --remodel; done
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:16] <isotope> perfect
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:17] <isotope> thanks
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:19] <jeld> or some such
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:37] <jeld> well, that would be remodeling, so for first time modeling you would need a slightly different command line
[16-Sep-2008 19:30:49] <mshundal> theres a better one
[16-Sep-2008 19:31:30] <mshundal> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/loading-a-list-of-devices-from-a-file/
[16-Sep-2008 19:31:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Loading a List of Devices From a File - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 19:39:48] <mshundal> anyone have any ideas on this:http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[16-Sep-2008 19:40:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 19:52:30] <mshundal> this is like mission immposible
[16-Sep-2008 19:56:11] <jeld> this is weird... I was trying to figure out why SSH service doesn't get mapped by IpServiceMap. Seems like SNMP reports port 22 in state timeWait instead of listening
[16-Sep-2008 19:56:20] <jeld> anyone encountered this?
[16-Sep-2008 22:06:01] <uwe> hello, how to monitor service from behind a proxy ?
[16-Sep-2008 22:19:54] <jeld> best bet would be over SSH or some such
[16-Sep-2008 22:20:33] <jeld> that is provided you can configure the proxy and do tunnel over HTTP
[16-Sep-2008 22:23:22] <uwe> jeld, isnt there a way to do it without accessing the remote machine ? or the proxy ?
[16-Sep-2008 22:26:23] <jeld> uwe, well, you need some sort of feedback, I mean you need to run some sort of a test and receive results
[16-Sep-2008 22:27:15] <jeld> the best you can do is schedule regular checks on the remote system itself and send the results back to the monitoring host
[16-Sep-2008 22:28:26] <jeld> uwe, in any case, if you are not in control of the remote system and the proxy, should you be really monitoring it?
[16-Sep-2008 22:29:41] <uwe> um, jeld, well, the scenario is as follows, my zenoss is in local network, i want to monitor a webserver with a public ip ... i/
[16-Sep-2008 22:30:47] <uwe> im still trying to configure zenoss, zabbix and nagios to do some recomendation , so i
[16-Sep-2008 22:30:57] <uwe> sorry ... i hit enter by accident
[16-Sep-2008 22:31:33] <jeld> uwe, well, nagios can do "if we receive a signal we are OK" sort of thing, so if the remote system can send stuff back you should be fine
[16-Sep-2008 22:32:16] <jeld> I am relatively new to ZenOSS and I spent quite a bit of time with zabbix
[16-Sep-2008 22:32:43] <uwe> well, i can actually communicate with the webserver ... using lynx or wget for example ! if i set http_proxy
[16-Sep-2008 22:33:27] <uwe> so i can see if its up or not ... by getting the expected page for example !
[16-Sep-2008 22:33:34] <jeld> so, you are trying to monitor a web server. Do you just need to monitor HTTP or do you want other stuff?
[16-Sep-2008 22:33:53] <uwe> no, just http for now !
[16-Sep-2008 22:34:31] <jeld> well, you might not want a complicated system like zabbix or nagios or especially ZenOSS (which is complex even compared to the first two)
[16-Sep-2008 22:35:20] <uwe> oh, you mean generally ... i do, i need to monitor network infrastructure and various services, but on that machine, i just want to monitor HTTP
[16-Sep-2008 22:35:22] <jeld> why don't you just setup a script that would download a page from the server and email you if it fails and run it from cron every minute
[16-Sep-2008 22:35:30] <jeld> I do this with one of my database servers
[16-Sep-2008 22:37:08] <jeld> I think nagios http plugins might have proxy support, if not it should be easy to write your own. in ZenOSS you can setup a data source that gets values by running a command, zabbix had some web site specific monitoring, not sure how good it is with proxies
[16-Sep-2008 22:38:26] <uwe> ok, thank you jeld, Ill take a look at that ! thank you !
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[17-Sep-2008 02:40:18] <emnaki> I'm having snmpwalk to localhost saying that it can't find the modules. Anyone know what could be the matter?
[17-Sep-2008 02:42:10] <emnaki> the system is a windows 2003 DC by the way.
[17-Sep-2008 02:48:12] <emnaki> my command is: snmpwalk -v 2c -c public localhost
[17-Sep-2008 02:48:36] <emnaki> I get a list of cannot find modules like this: Cannot find module (IP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[17-Sep-2008 02:49:16] <emnaki> finally this error occurs: Error in packet. Reason: (genError) A general failure occured. Failed object: iso.3.6.1.2.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
[17-Sep-2008 03:04:25] <emnaki> When I tried to walk from another computer it gives me:
[17-Sep-2008 03:04:41] <emnaki> Error in packet. Reason: (genError) A general failure occured Failed object: SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2
[17-Sep-2008 03:04:49] <emnaki> SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
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[17-Sep-2008 08:13:25] <Han> I want to add a new datasource for a device on which snmp is running on 16161 and whenever I want to test it the firewall logs show it's hitting 161 and not 16161
[17-Sep-2008 08:13:42] <Han> How do I fix that or is this a known bug?
[17-Sep-2008 11:05:23] <uwe> hello, i have zenoss installed for debian etch, im getting "missing rdd file" in the graphs ! i have looked into the mailing list and i have all services running
[17-Sep-2008 11:05:50] <uwe> any idea what it can be the problem?
[17-Sep-2008 11:20:26] <Han> How do I change the OID of a certain test? It's got a different OID on another machine.
[17-Sep-2008 12:05:47] <jmp242> Han: you'd need to create a local copy of the template and edit the SNMP datasource
[17-Sep-2008 12:21:52] <asachs> Is there a way to get zenoss to bulk walk snmp queries, currently i am getting about 500 separate queries to each host every 3 minutes.
[17-Sep-2008 12:25:41] <jmp242> I believe Zenoss already does some combining of SNMP queries, but it of course depends on if you're using command datasources doing SNMPWalk or using the built in SNMP poller via Twisted IIRC
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:34] <asachs> jmp242: its a stock install - so I would assume its Twisted, my syslog entries tell me that there are just under 500 UDP connections every 3 minutes ( in the space of 4 seconds)
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:34] <jmp242> Look at zMaxOIDPerRequest for the device, if you increase that, I believe Zenoss will combine more requests per packet
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:50] <asachs> jmp242: neat thanks - will have a look at that
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:59] <jmp242> some Cisco devices have issues with this though
[17-Sep-2008 12:28:16] <jmp242> default is 40
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:24] <Han> jmp242, found it, and killed a graph on the way.
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:29] <Han> I love zenoss
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:35] <asachs> jmp242: no cisco on the network - so safe there
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:40] <Han> </sarcasm>
[17-Sep-2008 12:31:56] <jmp242> yes, if you change the datasource, the graph is going to get re-generated . . . you might actually need to (for that device) delete the rrd file in the perf folder so it can be re-created correctly
[17-Sep-2008 12:42:46] <Han> jmp242, I just did that, how can I recreate the rrd file?
[17-Sep-2008 12:44:07] <jmp242> Zenoss ought to do that automatically as it polls
[17-Sep-2008 12:47:10] <Han> That's what I hoped as well. This is way bewond the average time to see what an application is about.
[17-Sep-2008 12:48:42] <jmp242> Well, I suppose it depends on the app
[17-Sep-2008 12:49:07] <Han> I go to the device, hit more->templates, hit the template that has the graph and then what should I do?
[17-Sep-2008 12:49:33] <jmp242> I'm lost - what are you trying to do here?
[17-Sep-2008 12:49:39] <jmp242> change the OID?
[17-Sep-2008 12:50:20] <Han> Get the graph back... Amazing, I don't know what I did but it just returned.
[17-Sep-2008 12:50:29] <Han> Lets see if I can recall what I did
[17-Sep-2008 12:52:09] <Han> That would not make the gnome human interface guidelines.
[17-Sep-2008 12:52:56] <uwe> im trying to monitor http service, i unable to add service, so i follwed this hint : http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24757 .. but i cant see its being monitored anywhere !!!
[17-Sep-2008 12:53:12] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Unable to add an IP SERVICE (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 12:54:15] <Han> jmp242, I just reproduced the procedure to my manager. We were both laughing out loud.
[17-Sep-2008 12:54:23] <Han> rediculous
[17-Sep-2008 12:54:46] <jmp242> which procedure? The template?
[17-Sep-2008 12:55:28] <jmp242> uwe: so were you able to add the IP service or not after the patch?
[17-Sep-2008 12:55:56] <jmp242> If you are hitting that bug and cannot add the service, it won't be monitored
[17-Sep-2008 12:56:49] <uwe> thats what i cant tell ... the issue was that i could only select protocol (tcp/udp) after patch, i can select it and hit enter ... but seems tno to be added @
[17-Sep-2008 12:57:56] <jmp242> Usually, Zenoss will pick up http port 80 automatically on model
[17-Sep-2008 12:58:09] <jmp242> In the OS tab, does an IP Service header even show up?
[17-Sep-2008 12:59:11] <uwe> well, its not pingable
[17-Sep-2008 12:59:15] <uwe> maybe thats why
[17-Sep-2008 13:01:52] <jmp242> Yea - if the device is down, as checked via ping, I don't think additional tests get done
[17-Sep-2008 13:07:55] <uwe> can i stop the ping test jmp242 ?
[17-Sep-2008 13:09:21] <jmp242> yes, I think you change the zPingMonitorIgnore to true
[17-Sep-2008 13:09:36] <jmp242> Then you can just use SNMP
[17-Sep-2008 13:09:41] <jmp242> or whatever
[17-Sep-2008 13:15:06] <uwe> im trying to do that ! but i cant do it for a single device ! can do it on the device class though! and trying to follow this http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-disable-ping-checks/ but i dont have monitors under management menu !
[17-Sep-2008 13:15:21] <adytum-bot> Title: How to Disable Ping Checks - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 13:17:48] <uwe> this is only available for commercial version ??
[17-Sep-2008 13:18:52] <jmp242> I have monitors under the management menu on 2.1.2 . . . Try in zProperties for the device, from the dropdown menu, more ...
[17-Sep-2008 13:21:29] <Han> I got a server running squid. It's already added with the 161 port, and now I want to add it with port 3401 as well. But if I do that it get lost and thinks I meant the one on 161.
[17-Sep-2008 13:21:31] <uwe> oh ! there ! thanks jmp242 ... found it
[17-Sep-2008 13:21:39] <Han> How should I deal with that?
[17-Sep-2008 13:25:10] <mshundal> anyone have any ideas on this? => http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[17-Sep-2008 13:25:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 13:40:04] <jmp242> Han: I'm not sure, are you trying to just monitor both ports, or are you trying to have 2 servers at the same IP?
[17-Sep-2008 13:41:43] <Han> Either solution would be fine.
[17-Sep-2008 13:42:00] <Han> This is also practical incase of port-forwarding.
[17-Sep-2008 13:51:56] <jmp242> Zenoss currently doesn't manage more than one device per IP, so virtual hosts just don't work as far as I can tell
[17-Sep-2008 13:52:19] <jmp242> But you can always add an IP service at a different port for up/down monitoring at the OS tab of the device
[17-Sep-2008 14:23:15] <Han> ok.
[17-Sep-2008 14:26:34] <Han> both the upd and tcp option don't result in being able to hit ok.
[17-Sep-2008 14:31:15] <jmp242> Did you see the post on the patch?
[17-Sep-2008 14:31:21] <jmp242> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24757
[17-Sep-2008 14:31:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Unable to add an IP SERVICE (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 14:35:55] <mshundal> anyone have any ideas on this? => http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[17-Sep-2008 14:36:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 15:45:57] <uwe> hello ... again, how do you people treat the case when you have a machine with multiple interfaces and multiple ips ? i have defined the interfaces with their ips in OS>IpInterfaces ... should i delete the devices detected by zenoss with the ips on the interfaces ? can i associate a device as if it was an alias of another device or something similar, i just dont know whats the best practice here, any input would be valuable
[17-Sep-2008 15:48:44] <jmp242> uwe - I don't ... Zenoss doesn't handle multiple IPs per device right now
[17-Sep-2008 15:49:16] <uwe> jmp242, so i should monitor each ip as a seperate device ...
[17-Sep-2008 15:49:40] <mshundal> isnt it populating your OS tab with all the IPs you have?
[17-Sep-2008 15:51:59] <uwe> mshundal, no, im not connecting to the machines using ssh or anything ... i suppose this is required in order it would do that ..
[17-Sep-2008 15:53:31] <uwe> well, how do you do it mshundal for windows machines for example, if you had an AD and users authenticate to it, you add a user to AD only for zenoss ... if yes, with what permissions, what is the minimum required permissions, if this is not the case, please enlighten me ...
[17-Sep-2008 15:53:37] <mshundal> not at all, my webservers have upto 20 IPs associated across 2-3 NICs
[17-Sep-2008 15:53:53] <mshundal> they all auto populate when you model the device, and there are windows servers so no ssh anyways
[17-Sep-2008 15:54:09] <mshundal> owwwwwwww
[17-Sep-2008 15:55:14] <mshundal> what you need to do is configure this utility account to have proper WMI access to the monitored machines (that what I use anyways as most of my windows machines use the WMI zenpack)
[17-Sep-2008 15:55:38] <mshundal> i think there are instructions on how to do this on the forum
[17-Sep-2008 16:12:08] <uwe> thank you mshundal , i think i found it ... following instructions !!
[17-Sep-2008 16:12:19] <mshundal> cheers
[17-Sep-2008 16:28:27] <mshundal> ack anyone know what vars i need to call in a report for zenoss to return available and used space on a drive? ref: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[17-Sep-2008 16:28:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 16:40:12] <uwe> mshundal, sorry to ask many questions, but my windows background is very shallow, did you install snmp informant on you windows machines ? what was also required to install on your zenoss host ? im asking because i get missing RDD files , so i found this : http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6856&view=next&sid=9437704b67eacc2032d101d922b3100a
[17-Sep-2008 16:40:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Missing RDD Files With WMI Monitoring (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 16:40:41] <mshundal> woa missing rrd files is actually good right now
[17-Sep-2008 16:41:01] <mshundal> give it a cycle for it to query the data and create the files
[17-Sep-2008 16:41:25] <mshundal> as per informant - no, started looking at zenoss just cuz i didnt want ANY software on the target servers
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:00] <uwe> so you are relaying on snmpv2 ...
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:06] <mshundal> v1
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:10] <mshundal> read-only
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:28] <uwe> i see, thank you for your input mshundal
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:54] <mshundal> np, as for the zen host, needed these to get it to compile
[17-Sep-2008 16:43:25] <mshundal> (debian minimal install to beging with) make gcc g++ patch bzip2 less autoconf swig snmpd dns-browse python2.5 mysql-server-5.0 libmysqlclient15-dev
[17-Sep-2008 16:43:42] <jeld> What is the function of "Service Keys"? Can I define my own version of a service or move a service from standard location?
[17-Sep-2008 16:43:51] <uwe> well, i installed it as provided from zenoss for debian, not from scratch ...
[17-Sep-2008 16:44:34] <mshundal> wasnt an option for me, am running it on a HP DL360 (1 GHz) lol
[17-Sep-2008 16:44:41] <uwe> i will probably build the next zenoss against packs provided from debian , but im still exploring zenoss
[17-Sep-2008 16:45:37] <uwe> my current is a PIII with 1GHz too
[17-Sep-2008 16:47:06] <mshundal> lol yea in that case just run with minimal, its not bad at all except when i finaly did a batch load
[17-Sep-2008 17:26:16] <jmp242> Wow - just a PIII 1Ghz?
[17-Sep-2008 17:26:40] <jmp242> Our test systems are P4 2.4Ghz...
[17-Sep-2008 18:09:14] <mshundal> lol
[17-Sep-2008 18:09:40] <mshundal> yep, just 1 ghz, then again i just wanna monitor 80 or so servers
[17-Sep-2008 22:37:03] <isotope> how do I associate a zenpack with a group of devices?
[17-Sep-2008 22:45:49] <jeld> isotope, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[17-Sep-2008 22:45:53] <isotope> I created a sub device of /server/linux
[17-Sep-2008 22:46:24] <isotope> and want to add a http check to all the hosts in the sub device
[17-Sep-2008 22:46:40] <isotope> rather than one device at a time
[17-Sep-2008 22:47:05] <jeld> hmm
[17-Sep-2008 22:47:12] <Linux50> Question. i was looking at the cisco mib's and I noticed that all the files have a .my extension.
[17-Sep-2008 22:47:22] <Linux50> Are they different than the .mib extensions?
[17-Sep-2008 22:49:18] <jeld> isotope, OK, I am not an expert, but here is how this works, when your device gets modeled, it picks up a list of services and processes (if you do SNMP or SSH modeling that is) and then if you have appropriate entries under /Services and /Processes they will get associated with the device
[17-Sep-2008 22:49:58] <isotope> but lets say I have a group of hosts that run a web service that I want to monitor
[17-Sep-2008 22:50:00] <jeld> isotope, for the class under /Device you can choose which modeling plugins are used for modeling the device
[17-Sep-2008 22:50:12] <jeld> isotope, OK
[17-Sep-2008 22:51:17] <isotope> looking
[17-Sep-2008 22:51:41] <Linux50> jeld, Question on that topic. If i install an mib for lets say a device like dell poweredge. And My dell poweredge has already been added to zenoss. Do I have to do something else besides add the mib to zenoss?
[17-Sep-2008 22:51:49] <jeld> isotope, create new subclass under /Device/Server/Linux, go to /Services/IpService/reserved/http and make sure Monitor property is set to true
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:04] <isotope> Ah, so I see it enherits templates from the classes upstream
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:07] <jeld> isotope, if you want a process, create a process under /Processes
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:41] <jeld> isotope, then go to the web server subclass you created and from the menu choose modeling plugins
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:51] <jeld> isotope, and choose whatever you think is right for your hosts
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:03] <jeld> isotope, then move your devices under the new class and push changes
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:19] <jeld> Linux50, shouldn't have to
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:36] <Linux50> Any idea on the .my extension
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:40] <jeld> Linux50, it should, if everything works, just start using names (and let you use names)
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:50] <Linux50> use names?
[17-Sep-2008 22:54:17] <jeld> Linux50, all a MIB does is map OIDs to semi-sensible names
[17-Sep-2008 22:54:44] <Linux50> thats it?
[17-Sep-2008 22:54:59] <Linux50> okay....
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:10] <jeld> Linux50, so for example when I get an SNMP trap from one of my load balancers it says snTrapL4RealServerPortDown instead of 1.3.6.1.4.1.1991.0.22
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:29] <jeld> or some such
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:34] <Linux50> okay. makes sense
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:51] <Linux50> Any idea on the .my extension?
[17-Sep-2008 22:58:21] <jeld> Linux50, not really, don't have any CISCO hardware around here
[17-Sep-2008 22:58:43] <jeld> but basically if it is not a MIB, zenmib will not eat it
[17-Sep-2008 22:58:55] <Linux50> okay
[17-Sep-2008 22:59:35] <jeld> in the HP MIB package there are .mib and .cfg files for everything
[17-Sep-2008 22:59:43] <jeld> for whatever reason
[17-Sep-2008 23:00:17] <Linux50> so what do you do with the cfg file
[17-Sep-2008 23:00:18] <Linux50> lol
[17-Sep-2008 23:05:44] <jeld> nothing, just leave it be
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[18-Sep-2008 14:39:08] <nemo2> Waiting one more cycle period - can i avoid ever waiting for a device ?
[18-Sep-2008 14:39:27] <nemo2> these two servers out of 900 spoil it for everyone
[18-Sep-2008 14:50:36] <Cardeal> someone could explain what I mean the error "timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running?"
[18-Sep-2008 14:52:13] <mshundal> i've see this all the time when running under a high load average
[18-Sep-2008 14:52:26] <mshundal> doesnt affect the modeling/remodeling process however
[18-Sep-2008 14:52:47] <mshundal> of course that assuming the zenhub daemon is actually running
[18-Sep-2008 14:56:33] <Cardeal> thanks
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:12] <mshundal> np
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:28] <mshundal> 11 AM EDT - eastern time right?
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:37] <mshundal> ow wait, sept 25 lol
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:59] <mshundal> awesome
[18-Sep-2008 15:12:51] <mshundal> hmm forums are still screwed if you try to login
[18-Sep-2008 18:18:47] <Linux50> Hello everyone.... I have an event in my zenoss under the even class of /status/ping. This event is constantly trying to ping vux.bos.netsolhost.com (205.178.145.65). The message is "ip 205.178.145.65 is down". The Event Group is "Ping" the Agent is "Zenping". I never told zenoss to monitor the host or ip address. This seems to be a fantom device/event. I cant get it to stop trying to ping it. What can I do?
[18-Sep-2008 18:47:28] <Nate187> find that device and under its zproperties set zpingmonitor to ignore
[18-Sep-2008 18:48:35] <Nate187> actually, its the zpingmonitorignore attribut and set it to true
[18-Sep-2008 18:53:39] <Linux50> There is no device
[18-Sep-2008 18:53:57] <Linux50> I never told zenoss to ping that.
[18-Sep-2008 18:54:10] <jmp242> Did you do a discovery run?
[18-Sep-2008 18:54:41] <Linux50> probably not since I dont know what that is. Or even how to do it
[18-Sep-2008 18:55:12] <Linux50> In the Event Console screen. The event in question has a colum called "Component"
[18-Sep-2008 18:55:37] <Linux50> its blank
[18-Sep-2008 18:55:56] <Linux50> Device colum comes up as vux.bos.netsolhost.com
[18-Sep-2008 18:56:00] <Linux50> but when I click it
[18-Sep-2008 18:56:20] <Linux50> I get a blank screen. That device does not exist in my "Device List"
[18-Sep-2008 18:56:29] <Linux50> so I cant get to the zproperties
[18-Sep-2008 18:58:27] <jmp242> hmmm
[18-Sep-2008 18:59:01] <jmp242> you can, I think, remove the entry directly from the database, though I've only seen that posted on the forums how to do so. They are down right now, but take a look when they come up
[18-Sep-2008 18:59:43] <Linux50> where is the database?
[18-Sep-2008 18:59:48] <Linux50> Mysql database?
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:11] <jmp242> I think it's a zope database (and MySQL)
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:13] <jmp242> there's 2
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:34] <Linux50> my Mysql database is empty.... this Zenoss installation is not using Mysql
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:46] <jmp242> how is it not using MySQL?
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:57] <jmp242> are you forwarding all events to a central server?
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:57] <Linux50> im looking right at it.
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:11] <Linux50> during install it asked for my root password which is the mysql password.
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:17] <jmp242> did you use a stack installer?
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:22] <Linux50> yes
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:32] <jmp242> I think that installs it's own instance of MySQL
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:02] <Linux50> serious?
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:07] <jmp242> yes
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:07] <Linux50> let me do a ps aux
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:26] <jmp242> Zenoss saves events in a MySQL database, so for you to get events, you have to have it using one somewhere
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:47] <Linux50> wow.... Your right..
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:54] <jmp242> but it keeps other attributes in a Zope database
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:55] <Linux50> very intereting
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:57] <jmp242> so there are 2
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:07] <jmp242> I know nothing about Zope, so I'm no help on that part
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:08] <Linux50> Is there a way to view whats in the zope database
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:15] <Linux50> like a phpZopeAdmin
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:17] <Linux50> lol
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:24] <jmp242> mmm, there is a management interface to zope
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:25] <zanaga> add /manage to the url
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:44] <Linux50> asking for a pass
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:59] <Linux50> wow
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:59] <zanaga> but be careful while roaming around
[18-Sep-2008 19:05:04] <Linux50> very nice
[18-Sep-2008 19:05:42] <Linux50> well.... Im in there
[18-Sep-2008 19:05:46] <zanaga> also, you might need to use zendmd to delete some entries because the web interface uses the same interfaces to delete stuff that zenoss normally uses. (which means it's safer)
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:00] <jmp242> right, that's it zendmd ...
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:08] <jmp242> I just don't recall the incantations
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:14] <jmp242> Chet would know, but he's not here
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:23] <theacolyte> I'm sure you know this, but zenoss.com is down
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:32] <jmp242> yea, I noticed
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:41] <jmp242> But the mailing list is working
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:48] <zanaga> you need to locate the right path and then use .removeObject() afair
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:08] <zanaga> i did some major cleaning up on our database like that
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:10] <Linux50> what are they doing with the site?
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:13] <theacolyte> Question though, since I can't read it - iirc, Zenoss uses agents to collect WMI data from Windows machines, right?
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:18] <jmp242> no
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:22] <theacolyte> ah it's back up now
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:24] <jmp242> zenoss uses WMI calls
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:31] <theacolyte> Got it
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:32] <jmp242> via wmic or winexec
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:34] <theacolyte> WMI would work in my case
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:53] <jmp242> well, winexec just runs stuff, but wmic is what does WMI calls
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:08] <jmp242> it just needs a service account that has admin access - well at least DCOM and WMI
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:16] <theacolyte> Yeah, that I can provide
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:48] <theacolyte> what's the latest version?
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:59] <theacolyte> website just tanked ggain
[18-Sep-2008 19:09:30] <theacolyte> bah, doesn't matter, vmware appliance link just goes back to zenoss.com
[18-Sep-2008 19:11:10] <theacolyte> So here's a theoretical for you
[18-Sep-2008 19:11:52] <theacolyte> If I have servers in a colo facility with no VPN link, whatever (I could set one up, I guess) and I wanted to monitor it from thsi office, along with all my servers in each office, PLUS the connection to the colo - could I do that
[18-Sep-2008 19:12:02] <theacolyte> I guess what I'm talking about is distributed monitoring
[18-Sep-2008 19:13:04] <Linux50> zanaga, i cant find anything regarding zenping
[18-Sep-2008 19:13:32] <zanaga> Linux50: what is your problem? what are you trying to solve?
[18-Sep-2008 19:13:45] <zanaga> (i didn't pay attention to the first part of the conversation)
[18-Sep-2008 19:14:07] <Linux50> I have an event in my zenoss under the even class of /status/ping. This event is constantly trying to ping vux.bos.netsolhost.com (205.178.145.65). The message is "ip 205.178.145.65 is down". The Event Group is "Ping" the Agent is "Zenping". I never told zenoss to monitor the host or ip address. This seems to be a fantom device/event. I cant get it to stop trying to ping it. What can I do?
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:01] <zanaga> if you try to enter 205.178.145.65 to the search box does it bring up a host?
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:02] <jmp242> theacolyte: you might be able to with Zenoss Enterprise
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:18] <theacolyte> hmmm
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:26] <jmp242> Otherwise, you'd need to do a lot of guesswork and reading the forums etc, for getting the distributed monitoring working
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:40] <jmp242> basically, you would need a VPN would be easiest
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:46] <Linux50> nothing comes back
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:51] <jmp242> from one server, but if you wanted separate servers
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:00] <theacolyte> hmm
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:05] <theacolyte> vpn wouldn't be hard to set up at all
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:08] <zanaga> Linux50: i'd guess that the index is hosed then.. ok, try this
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:16] <jmp242> you could try a second Zenoss install that reports back to the main one
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:30] <jmp242> the problem is I'm not sure how hard it would be to get the connections SSLed, rather than http
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:36] <jmp242> so VPN is of course easier
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:37] <Linux50> This has occurred on three different install (although on the same machine).
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:44] <theacolyte> Will Zenoss auto-email reports?
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:53] <jmp242> you set up alert rules?
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:55] <theacolyte> Like nightly statistics, not just HOST DOWN
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:56] <jmp242> mmm
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:01] <jmp242> not sure
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:01] <zanaga> Linux50: log in to the zenoss host with ssh or something and switch to the zenoss user
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:04] <jmp242> I've never tried theacolyte
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:07] <theacolyte> I would read into it, but again the site is down
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:08] <Linux50> okay
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:13] <theacolyte> I could get away with that I think
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:19] <Linux50> im there
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:35] <jmp242> I think there is a way, the forums have talked a little on this, but I haven't found much docs/shared code yet on it
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:48] <zanaga> Linux50: run zendmd and type in reindex()
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:50] <jmp242> then again, I'm not currently extending Zenoss at work either
[18-Sep-2008 19:18:00] <zanaga> Linux50: once that finishes run commit()
[18-Sep-2008 19:19:31] <Linux50> okay done
[18-Sep-2008 19:19:47] <zanaga> Linux50: now try and enter the ip address to the search box to see if something comes up
[18-Sep-2008 19:20:15] <Linux50> negative
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:17] <jmp242> try clearing heartbeats?
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:30] <Linux50> how?
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:38] <Linux50> command line or gui
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:49] <jmp242> gui - go to event console
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:55] <jmp242> dropdown, clear all heartbeats
[18-Sep-2008 19:22:15] <zanaga> Linux50: ok.. i'm out of ideas. When i was cleaning out the database i was making it up as i went along =)
[18-Sep-2008 19:22:37] <zanaga> Linux50: if you can't find anything here.. wait until the maintenance break is over and ask on the forums
[18-Sep-2008 19:23:39] <Linux50> Well I do thank you zanaga
[18-Sep-2008 19:24:16] <zanaga> lets hope you can solve the problem
[18-Sep-2008 19:24:39] <Linux50> thanks. It real annoying.
[18-Sep-2008 19:32:49] <Linux50> zanaga, Im sorry to bug with a noob question. There is a feature called "Add to zenpack" the the /services/IPService
[18-Sep-2008 19:32:55] <Linux50> What does that do?
[18-Sep-2008 19:35:39] <zanaga> Linux50: it adds a service listed there to a zenpack so that you can export it later
[18-Sep-2008 19:35:56] <jmp242> zenpacks are like plugins to Zenoss
[18-Sep-2008 19:36:04] <jmp242> they add monitoring capabilities, or other things
[18-Sep-2008 19:44:01] <Linux50> I just added a service to be monitored named tcp_08000 using port 8000. Oracle E-Biz Suite Web
[18-Sep-2008 19:44:22] <Linux50> Do I have to remodel the device that will be using that port?
[18-Sep-2008 20:32:09] <johns55> hey guys..anyone know how to configure a threshold you use another OID as it's max value?
[18-Sep-2008 20:47:18] <run|sony> any reason no windows installer?
[18-Sep-2008 21:54:11] <rbw> Hello!
[18-Sep-2008 21:54:22] <rbw> I'm trying to setup Zenoss to use distributed monitoring
[18-Sep-2008 21:56:36] <rbw> I've configured the necessary daemons to use the master server as hubhost, the node doesn't however pass the --hub-host parameter when i.e. adding a new device, hence it's using localhost instead of the remote server as hubhost. I'm using the 'hubhost' directive in the daemon configurations. has someone got a solution for this?
[18-Sep-2008 21:57:46] <rbw> I'd rather not hack the source code
[18-Sep-2008 21:59:38] <run|sony> ugh.. looks like i need nagios to install zenoss?
[18-Sep-2008 22:01:56] <rbw> run|sony: why'd you need nagios to install zenoss?
[18-Sep-2008 22:03:01] <run|sony> rather.. during the build its trying to build nagios plugins
[18-Sep-2008 22:03:32] <run|sony> and crapping out
[18-Sep-2008 22:03:57] <run|sony> http://pastebin.com/m6719886b
[18-Sep-2008 22:04:04] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Sep-2008 22:04:29] <run|sony> thats annoying
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:01] <rbw> run|sony: paste ./configure --help please
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:16] <run|sony> running the ./install.sh
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:19] <kgoedtel> debian?
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:35] <run|sony> yes
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:37] <run|sony> ubutnu
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:04] <run|sony> the reason i installed zenoss is to not use nagios
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:17] <kgoedtel> you don't 'need' those
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:28] <run|sony> ah so it installed?
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:30] * run|sony goes to check
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:33] <kgoedtel> they just make them avaiable for custom commands
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:39] <kgoedtel> available*
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:52] <run|sony> if its optional.. shouldnt it supress and not crap out the install?
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:00] <run|sony> starting it up
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:10] <kgoedtel> they get used for a couple things by default
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:14] <kgoedtel> like ping check
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:25] <kgoedtel> the command
[18-Sep-2008 22:08:19] <run|sony> no module named simplejson ;-)
[18-Sep-2008 22:08:42] <kgoedtel> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462509
[18-Sep-2008 22:08:58] <adytum-bot> Title: #462509 - nagios-plugins: FTBFS: check_pgsql.c:71: error: 'NAMEDATALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) - Debian Bug report logs (at bugs.debian.org)
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> zenoss@ubuntu:/usr/local/zenoss$ ./bin/easy_install-2.4 simplejson
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> Traceback (most recent call last):
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> File "./bin/easy_install-2.4", line 5, in ?
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> ImportError: No module named pkg_resources
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:26] * run|sony groans
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:53] <run|sony> ahg
[18-Sep-2008 22:11:28] <rbw> run|sony: can't you just make the installer skip the nagios part?
[18-Sep-2008 22:12:08] <rbw> run|sony: paste me the installer script please
[18-Sep-2008 22:12:59] <kgoedtel> i blame ubuntu!
[18-Sep-2008 22:13:02] <run|sony> ;-)
[18-Sep-2008 22:13:18] <kgoedtel> works fine/great for me in centos :]
[18-Sep-2008 22:14:31] <run|sony> AttributeError: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[18-Sep-2008 22:15:34] <kgoedtel> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=9216
[18-Sep-2008 22:15:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - r4628, zenmodeler, zenperfsnmp and zenprocess problem (at forums.zenoss.com)
[18-Sep-2008 22:17:15] <run|sony> ok
[18-Sep-2008 22:17:36] <run|sony> the install.sh is not creating 'log' and 'etc' folders
[18-Sep-2008 22:17:59] <run|sony> maybe i need to rerun again
[18-Sep-2008 22:18:24] <run|sony> the conf files are missing from install.sh ?
[18-Sep-2008 22:18:25] <run|sony> WARN: config file /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zensyslog.conf not found skipping
[18-Sep-2008 22:19:02] <run|sony> what is this 'ip' package?
[18-Sep-2008 22:19:11] <run|sony> simplejson and ip modules are missing
[18-Sep-2008 22:21:38] <theacolyte> where do you enter in domain credentials for wmi?
[18-Sep-2008 22:21:40] <run|sony> simplejson is easy to install
[18-Sep-2008 22:28:19] <run|sony> and pyip was the other module
[18-Sep-2008 22:28:25] <run|sony> now the default conf files arent there
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:34] <kgoedtel> you hosed it!
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:40] <kgoedtel> start over lol
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:43] <run|sony> yeah
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:56] <run|sony> the sad thing is.. i didnt do anything starnge
[18-Sep-2008 22:32:07] <run|sony> just ran the install
[18-Sep-2008 22:33:37] <run|sony> why isnt it creating conf file?
[18-Sep-2008 22:33:38] <run|sony> wtf
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:10] <theacolyte> beautiful
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:16] <theacolyte> it all works
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:33] <run|sony> does it?
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:46] <run|sony> install.sh needs love
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:49] <theacolyte> wmi + snmpinformant + hp server software
[18-Sep-2008 22:42:31] <theacolyte> Now I Just need to RTFM
[18-Sep-2008 22:42:55] <run|sony> yeah im about to purchase orion i think
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:03] <theacolyte> too much $
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:14] <run|sony> not that much
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:16] <theacolyte> well, I take that back
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:22] <theacolyte> I didn't actually budget for an NMS this year
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:40] <theacolyte> so far this is working, I just need to figure how the hell to set up triggers/traps
[18-Sep-2008 22:50:03] <kgoedtel> zenoss is awesome :\
[18-Sep-2008 22:50:31] <run|sony> cute easter egg in installer
[18-Sep-2008 22:50:35] <kgoedtel> i've been using it for at least a year now and love it
[18-Sep-2008 23:36:44] <run|sony> up adn running
[18-Sep-2008 23:36:55] <run|sony> i just needed to delete nagios from makefile
[18-Sep-2008 23:37:10] <run|sony> will get one of our dev's to create patch for makefile so it ignores if nagios cant compile
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[19-Sep-2008 06:34:15] <emnaki> Does anyone have any tips as to what I should be monitoring? Zenoss is a lean mean beast, but I don't know what to use it for!
[19-Sep-2008 06:37:16] <emnaki> I'm trying to monitor active directory network btw.
[19-Sep-2008 09:05:44] <therealnemo> how are you guys managing disk full alerts ?
[19-Sep-2008 09:10:28] <tarjei_> therealnemo: ? usually I try to delete some logfiles
[19-Sep-2008 09:13:28] <therealnemo> lol
[19-Sep-2008 09:14:06] <therealnemo> i meant the std messages are silly, threshold of Free Space 90 Percent exceeded: current
[19-Sep-2008 09:14:27] <therealnemo> i know how to transform, but i just wonder if anyone has something better than me
[19-Sep-2008 10:46:23] <zanaga> therealnemo: I picked this up from somewhere: http://pastebin.com/m1b3de5d5
[19-Sep-2008 10:46:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2008 10:46:49] <zanaga> it shows the current percentage
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:32] <therealnemo> yeh that kind of thing
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:33] <therealnemo> http://pastebin.com/m411ac457
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:51] <therealnemo> just curious if anyone had made something better
[19-Sep-2008 10:49:48] <therealnemo> thats something from the internet, tweaked and whatever
[19-Sep-2008 10:53:12] <zanaga> I think i'll grab your description.. it's a lot better than the one i have =)
[19-Sep-2008 10:55:12] <zanaga> I dont' see the point with that last if p < 90.0: _evt.action = "drop"
[19-Sep-2008 10:55:36] <zanaga> since no events are generated for < 90 anyway
[19-Sep-2008 12:56:05] <evil_lw> greetings, I'm looking for some insight or some assistance with an issue. I've got some java processes that shut down a few hours each night while background databases are shut down. I've got a maintenance window applied to the system folder in which the servers reside scheduled for about 5 hours for the state of maintenance, yet zenoss still generates events during that time, is this standard/expected behavior?
[19-Sep-2008 15:12:17] <sn1ffer72> morning
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:01] <isotope> question on installed software for linux
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:34] <isotope> when I perform an snmpwalk it lists all of the installed rpms but they aren't showing up in zenoss
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:38] <isotope> its empty
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:54] <isotope> everything else, hardware, OS etc... is populated
[19-Sep-2008 18:24:16] <isotope> is this a template that should be collecting this
[19-Sep-2008 18:29:10] <jacksafro> when following this guide on creating device dependencies: http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-a-device-dependency/ it tells me to use 'id_of_application_server'. Is that the name of the device in ZenOSS, or some other ID that I retrieve from somewhere?
[19-Sep-2008 18:29:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Create a device dependency - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Sep-2008 18:38:33] <jacksafro> does anyone have device dependencies working, or a better writeup of what to do in order to get it working?
[19-Sep-2008 18:39:24] <jacksafro> i do not understand what the device_id is supposed to be. i used the name of the machine as it shows up in ZenOSS, however my dependency rule does not work.
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[21-Sep-2008 20:37:49] <KeithBilly> I've been searching around for an answear to this one but can't seem to find any helpful info. I'm trying to setup 2 servers to model over ssh, it seems zenoss is having trouble authenticating. Keeps saying there is a timeout, the ssh logs on the server say there is a timer out before the password is entered. Anyone dealt with this?
[21-Sep-2008 21:05:10] <crashdummyMCH> I know there is REST for adding a device, but is there a REST API for adding a Hardware manufacturer?
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[21-Sep-2008 22:34:01] <KeithBilly> I'm trying to modify the ip services under os for a device, but in both safari and firefox nothing happens after clicking "tcp" i would expect there is supposed to be a list of tcp_00xxx devices that will show up but the ajax doesn't seem to work.
[21-Sep-2008 22:34:30] <KeithBilly> anyone else now how to change the ip manually for an ip service?
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[22-Sep-2008 03:23:36] <Hux_ley> Has anyone encountered a segmentation fault trying to have zenoss login to mysql during the install.sh script?? I have tried the tarball and svn versions and it keeps doing it to me -- the username and password and database are correctly setup, so I'm quite confusd
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[22-Sep-2008 12:43:39] <mshundal> hux copy n paste the exact mag
[22-Sep-2008 14:17:31] <mgiammarco> Hi I am trying to let zenoss discover my server using snmp
[22-Sep-2008 14:17:58] <mgiammarco> problem is: with default snmpd.conf there is no info about hard disk partition
[22-Sep-2008 14:18:25] <mgiammarco> I have modified hdd and now with snmpwalk I can see hdd info
[22-Sep-2008 14:19:01] <mgiammarco> but zenoss discovery does not see : hdd, cpu speed, ram info, processes, etc. etc. etc.
[22-Sep-2008 14:19:28] <mgiammarco> I hoped that the zenoss discover was more easier
[22-Sep-2008 14:19:39] <mgiammarco> can someone help me?
[22-Sep-2008 14:28:01] <jmp242> mgiammarco: try setting rocommunity to public (or whatever you have Zenoss set to use)
[22-Sep-2008 14:31:38] <mgiammarco> jmp242, I have already tried the snmp troubleshoot and I have also tried rocommunity public
[22-Sep-2008 14:32:22] <mgiammarco> snmpd is open I can walk inside it but some important mibs are ignored by zenoss
[22-Sep-2008 14:33:25] <nemo_> mgiammarco, device info is loaded incremently
[22-Sep-2008 14:33:40] <nemo_> e.g. not all in the same collection, it takes a few collections to get all info on the device
[22-Sep-2008 14:35:54] <mgiammarco> nemo_ ah ok I will wait and see, perhaps tomorrow I will see also some graph?
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:15] <nemo_> should be max 30 mins
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:18] <nemo_> not days
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:27] <nemo_> 5-6 collection cycles
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:37] <nemo_> assuming a cycle of 300 seconds or so
[22-Sep-2008 14:37:06] <nemo_> if you keep remodelling a device
[22-Sep-2008 14:37:19] <nemo_> you should see "no changes" when all data is done
[22-Sep-2008 14:38:40] <mgiammarco> nemo_, where "no changes" ?
[22-Sep-2008 14:40:30] <nemo_> near the bottom of the output from modelling.
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:13] <daMaestro> is there any better documentation on making portlets then what i have found so far? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.0/ch12s07.html
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:46] <daMaestro> like, where all the functions that YAHOO.zenoss. provides
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:51] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch13s08.html
[22-Sep-2008 15:18:03] <mrayzenoss> the dev guide has revised a bit
[22-Sep-2008 15:18:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 15:18:13] <mrayzenoss> note the 2.2.4 vs. 2.2.0
[22-Sep-2008 15:23:02] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, so i should be reading http://mochikit.com/doc/html/MochiKit/DOM.html#creating-dom-element-trees for details on how to put custom content there?
[22-Sep-2008 15:23:15] <daMaestro> or can I just use ZPT and be happy?
[22-Sep-2008 15:23:16] <adytum-bot> Title: MochiKit.DOM - painless DOM manipulation API (at mochikit.com)
[22-Sep-2008 15:28:17] <mrayzenoss> unfortunately, I don't know the UI stuff at all
[22-Sep-2008 15:28:23] <mrayzenoss> I'll ask Ian
[22-Sep-2008 15:33:47] <jacksafro> does anyone know what the levels of 'pingStatus()' mean or where this is defined in the source?
[22-Sep-2008 15:34:30] <jacksafro> or is it just the number of times the device has failed the ping scan?
[22-Sep-2008 15:34:55] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Ian's response: Just use an iframe portlet. You can't do ZPT in javascript, obviously, but I made an iframe portlet, which google maps uses.
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:04] <mrayzenoss> Then you can do whatever the hell you want in there
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:11] <mrayzenoss> There's also an "arbitrary HTML" portlet
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:18] <mrayzenoss> so however one wishes to generate the HTML, it'll work. Doing it by directly modifying the DOM is probably the least desirable or effective way.
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:55] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, where are the lists of portlets i can use?
[22-Sep-2008 15:36:04] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i'm developing a zenpack for webmetric right now
[22-Sep-2008 15:36:11] <KeithBilly> In freebsd you do get a segmentation fault during the install.sh script. I generally pull the zenbuildevents command and run it manually then gut the create database function and build_zenevents function. running the commands manually seems to work just fine. Somethings wrong with how it dumps it's output to the /dev/null or something else i suspect.
[22-Sep-2008 15:37:46] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Ian said to link at $ZENHOME/Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/GoogleMapsPortlet.js for an example of the arbitrary HTML thingy.
[22-Sep-2008 15:37:58] <daMaestro> yeah, i read the google one. thanks.
[22-Sep-2008 15:40:35] <__ian__> in re custom content in portlets
[22-Sep-2008 15:40:50] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: are you using the latest install instructions for FreeBSD?
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:03] <__ian__> here be the deal. If you take a look at the Google Maps portlet, you'll see a good example.
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:10] <KeithBilly> lastest i can find,
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:19] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: http://dev.zenoss.com/svn/trunk/zendocs/InstallGuide/pdf/InstallGuide-Core-2.2.4.pdf
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:21] <__ian__> that's at $ZENHOME/Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/GoogleMapsPortlet.js
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:41] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: we're trying to clean up our install instructions to 1 document, let me know if that doesn't work and we'll get it updated
[22-Sep-2008 15:42:16] <__ian__> Basically, a portlet comprises a portlet and a datasource. That GoogleMapsDatasource has a "get" method that just makes some html and returns it to the callback. You can do whatever you want to create that html.
[22-Sep-2008 15:43:00] <__ian__> Essentially, copy that file and change all the names, then change that get method, and you should be good to go.
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:08] <__ian__> Definitely do not want to modify the DOM directly. Let the portlet js handle that. It does purge stuff that handles the memory leaks inevitable in complex DOM manipulation.
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:25] <KeithBilly> these instructions don't look all that different from the ones i've always used from the site
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:35] <KeithBilly> nothing in here addresses mysql faulting.
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:56] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: sorry, I was just making sure you were looking at the latest we have.
[22-Sep-2008 15:46:29] <mrayzenoss> don't have a FreeBSD box myself
[22-Sep-2008 15:48:29] <KeithBilly> It's in the install-functions.sh line 65 that she dies
[22-Sep-2008 15:51:21] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=20689
[22-Sep-2008 16:00:06] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: if that works, I'll open a ticket for it because I don't see one
[22-Sep-2008 16:01:41] <KeithBilly_> well what i did was gut the function and run it's command manually minus the dev/null/ parts
[22-Sep-2008 16:01:59] <mrayzenoss> did you see my posts? you logged out
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:06] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=20689
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:09] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: if that works, I'll open a ticket for it because I don't see one
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Intall failing (at forums.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:34] <KeithBilly_> yeh i saw them
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:43] <mrayzenoss> did that help or no?
[22-Sep-2008 16:18:22] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, so the google portlet doesn't show (clearly) how i represent the existing settings (after a save) in the settings render
[22-Sep-2008 16:18:24] <KeithBilly_> mrayzenoss : just replacing the install-functions.sh, making the mod and running a fresh install
[22-Sep-2008 16:19:39] <__ian__> daMaestro: Can you explain that a bit more?
[22-Sep-2008 16:20:35] <daMaestro> __ian__, http://fpaste.org/paste/6417
[22-Sep-2008 16:20:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6417 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:20:47] <daMaestro> __ian__, i can't seem to "save settings"
[22-Sep-2008 16:21:04] <daMaestro> __ian__, i'm just working through doing one thing at a time and passing data around
[22-Sep-2008 16:21:12] <daMaestro> __ian__, from what i can tell.. i can't get settings to save
[22-Sep-2008 16:22:59] <__ian__> daMaestro: in submitSettings, you're passing the object with queryArguments attribute. Any particular reason? I believe that won't work.
[22-Sep-2008 16:23:34] <__ian__> daMaestro: That is, I think you should just pass an object with the attributes you're saving. No need to wrap that in another object.
[22-Sep-2008 16:23:36] <daMaestro> __ian__, i thought that .value was the data
[22-Sep-2008 16:24:26] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/6418 is the google code
[22-Sep-2008 16:24:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6418 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:24:49] <__ian__> daMaestro: Yep, .value is the data. But then when you call this.superclass.submitSettings(), you're wrapping the object containing your values in another object under the queryArguments attribute.
[22-Sep-2008 16:25:42] <daMaestro> oh, so i need to pass serviceid_el rather then serviceid ?
[22-Sep-2008 16:26:16] <__ian__> daMaestro: No. You're obtaining the values correctly. It's how you're calling submitSettings that is the issue.
[22-Sep-2008 16:26:36] <__ian__> daMaestro: http://fpaste.org/paste/6419
[22-Sep-2008 16:26:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6419 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:27:52] <daMaestro> ah, i see
[22-Sep-2008 16:30:01] <daMaestro> ok, and with regards to populating the settings pane with correct information
[22-Sep-2008 16:30:36] <daMaestro> this.serviceid_el = INPUT({'name': 'serviceid'}); should be this.serviceid_el = INPUT({'name': 'serviceid', 'value': this.datasource.serviceid.value}); ?
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:28] <__ian__> Yeah, that'll do it
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:30] <__ian__> I think
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:45] <daMaestro> oh and actually: this.serviceid_el = INPUT({'name': 'serviceid', 'value': this.datasource.serviceid});
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:58] <__ian__> ah, yes, right
[22-Sep-2008 16:34:29] <KeithBilly_> mrayzenoss : that did work actually, defiantly upload a patch or modify the install docs to include that step.
[22-Sep-2008 16:35:57] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly_: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3757
[22-Sep-2008 16:39:18] <KeithBilly> dont' know if you saw my last post but
[22-Sep-2008 16:39:20] <KeithBilly> mrayzenoss : that did work actually, defiantly upload a patch or modify the install docs to include that step.
[22-Sep-2008 16:43:35] <daMaestro> __ian__, well.. this still doesn't seem to "save" the settings: http://fpaste.org/paste/6420
[22-Sep-2008 16:43:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6420 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:44:16] <daMaestro> oh wait.. maybe it does now
[22-Sep-2008 16:44:54] <daMaestro> ah, it does
[22-Sep-2008 16:45:14] <__ian__> hooray
[22-Sep-2008 17:25:41] <daMaestro> so, where is the option to tune the timeout waiting for snmp?
[22-Sep-2008 17:25:57] <daMaestro> we have some servers under heavy load right now and they are flopping back and forth regarding snmp timeouts
[22-Sep-2008 17:26:18] <daMaestro> (i assume it's some setting with the collector, but nothing is jumping out at me as the correct option)
[22-Sep-2008 17:28:17] <daMaestro> zSnmpTimeout and zSnmpTries ... how can i change that for multiple devices at the same time?
[22-Sep-2008 17:29:00] <daMaestro> can i change it in a device class? or does that only apply to new devices?
[22-Sep-2008 17:35:53] <__ian__> daMaestro: change it for the device class
[22-Sep-2008 17:36:03] <__ian__> it inherits down unless explicitly overridden
[22-Sep-2008 18:02:41] <CamargoBP> Does anyone know how to add graphs to the Zenoss Dashboard as depicted in this picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zenoss/2650686876/
[22-Sep-2008 18:02:48] <adytum-bot> Title: konsa79 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com)
[22-Sep-2008 18:03:51] <__ian__> That appears to be a custom table portlet.
[22-Sep-2008 18:04:50] <mrayzenoss> CamargoBP: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/graph-portlet
[22-Sep-2008 18:05:06] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPacks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 18:05:24] <CamargoBP> mrayzenoss: Thanks
[22-Sep-2008 18:07:07] <MrTux> mrayzenoss: ah, your back just a question, where do you want to have featurerequests?
[22-Sep-2008 18:07:32] <mrayzenoss> you can open a ticket and one of the options is "enhancement"
[22-Sep-2008 18:07:49] <mrayzenoss> what's your request?
[22-Sep-2008 18:08:29] <MrTux> a autocreate snmp map, i have many devices having maps, eg for device temperatures, and i want to autocreate graphs for this
[22-Sep-2008 18:10:25] <mrayzenoss> write up a thorough explanation as a ticket or email and I'll make sure it gets to product management
[22-Sep-2008 18:11:07] <MrTux> what's your mail?
[22-Sep-2008 18:19:43] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[22-Sep-2008 19:10:04] <knakka> anyone know how to extract eventClassKey from an event?
[22-Sep-2008 20:51:24] <omar> I'm trying to get latency graphs, I have already read the ping-smoke example in http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/SmokepingishLatencyGraphs/?searchterm=latency
[22-Sep-2008 20:51:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Smokepingish Latency Graphs - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 20:52:15] <omar> the graph is in performance tab, but no information is showd
[22-Sep-2008 20:52:31] <omar> any suggest, idea?
[22-Sep-2008 20:54:24] <omar> I have confirmed the ping command in bash, it gives min, avg, max, mdev and loss values correctly....
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:04] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I just did something monumentally stupid - I upgraded from 2.1.2 to 2.2.3 - and between the two I shut the machine down - which wasn't inherently stupid, but not having mysqld start on boot was stupid - and so part of the upgrade migration puked all over my screen (but apparently not in such a way that I could rerun it) anyone know what the script is so that I can easily run it again?
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:35] <therealnemo> restore your backup
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:38] <therealnemo> and do it again
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:52] <ke4qqq> ohhhh cool
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:54] <ke4qqq> I can do that
[22-Sep-2008 21:04:19] <ke4qqq> are we talking just the db or the entire zenbackup backup?
[22-Sep-2008 21:05:05] <therealnemo> i would want to go back to pre-upgrade state and do it again
[22-Sep-2008 21:05:09] <therealnemo> so all
[22-Sep-2008 21:05:26] <ke4qqq> ok
[22-Sep-2008 21:10:44] <jacksafro> when writing alert dependency and suppression rules for zenoss, I am directed to use the 'device.pingStatus()' return value to determine if the 'other host' is down
[22-Sep-2008 21:11:02] <jacksafro> what does that value represent? i have a host that is up and passing all service checks but has a pingStatus() value of 2 or 3
[22-Sep-2008 21:11:19] <jacksafro> which pretty much tells me that the pingStatus() value is not a good indicator of whether or not the host is up
[22-Sep-2008 21:11:42] <jacksafro> does anyone know what how the pingStatus() value is calculated? what does it represent?
[22-Sep-2008 21:13:53] <ke4qqq> therealnemo: I know it's yet another stupid thing to not try a restore ahead of time, but restoring is zenbackup --restore --file=/path/to/file ? it doesn't seem to like --restore
[22-Sep-2008 21:16:11] <therealnemo> zenrestore is the command, zenrestore --help
[22-Sep-2008 21:18:52] <ke4qqq> ahhh ok
[22-Sep-2008 21:18:53] <ke4qqq> thanks
[22-Sep-2008 21:25:49] <jacksafro> is there anyone in this channel that knows where i can look to determine for myself what the pingStatus() return value represents?
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[23-Sep-2008 13:27:17] <evil_lw> is it normal for processes disappearing when a server is in a state of maintenanace to generate an alarm?
[23-Sep-2008 13:30:31] <jmp242> It depends on how your alerting rule is set up - does it require production status?
[23-Sep-2008 13:34:59] <evil_lw> yes, when I say an alarm, I mean on the page, better yet, I mean an event, it just seems hit or miss because we have defined maintenance windows for a few hundred servers, and when applications restart on the back-end, zenoss generates an event even when the host is in a pre-production or maintenance state
[23-Sep-2008 13:37:29] <evil_lw> what seems annoying when the state returns to production, I can expect to get a heapload of messages, at least thats behavior I observed a few days ago, when I had the bulk of the events acknowledged from the night before then turned on email notifications
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[23-Sep-2008 13:47:33] <jmp242> Events get generated regardless of production state
[23-Sep-2008 13:48:06] <jmp242> you could create transforms or mappings to either history or drop events if not in production evil_lw
[23-Sep-2008 13:50:49] <evil_lw> really, the impression I got from the docs was that they aren't generated in non-production states, well thats starting to make a bit more sense
[23-Sep-2008 13:51:27] <jmp242> I think the docs are either wrong or unclear
[23-Sep-2008 13:51:33] <jmp242> events are always created
[23-Sep-2008 13:53:08] * evil_lw goes to figure that out
[23-Sep-2008 13:53:17] <evil_lw> thanks! I'm sure I'll have a couple more questions
[23-Sep-2008 14:07:45] <evil_lw> jmp242: so something like `if evt.prodstate != 1000: evt._action="history"` in the transform?
[23-Sep-2008 14:12:00] <jmp242> yea, assuming that's the right code... There was a recent forum post on this
[23-Sep-2008 14:12:15] <jmp242> and I don't actually know all the possible evt.variables
[23-Sep-2008 14:13:39] <jmp242> event mappings would be another way to do this, but they are only documented well in the Zenoss book, and it's not entirely clear there either
[23-Sep-2008 14:15:57] <evil_lw> ok, whats odd is looking at one of the events that was generated this morning, the prodstate shows as 1000, however the machine was set to maintenance by the maintenance window...
[23-Sep-2008 14:18:12] <jmp242> hmmm
[23-Sep-2008 14:18:15] <jmp242> Got me then
[23-Sep-2008 14:26:33] <evil_lw> looks like prodState on the display is just pulled from the current system state
[23-Sep-2008 14:26:46] <evil_lw> i just changed a server to maintenance and the number changed
[23-Sep-2008 14:26:49] <evil_lw> on the event
[23-Sep-2008 14:28:55] <jmp242> right
[23-Sep-2008 14:29:00] <jmp242> hmmm
[23-Sep-2008 14:29:08] <jmp242> SO it ought to actually work then
[23-Sep-2008 14:33:04] <CamargoBP> How many people would find it beneficial to have an IRC portlet that lets you monitor rooms?
[23-Sep-2008 14:33:44] <ke4qqq> ooohhh wait - so you mean I could look like I was monitoring the network and actually be in irc at the same time!!!???? +1
[23-Sep-2008 14:34:56] <CamargoBP> No so you can monitor say a service provider such as xmission and you know when somthing is reported about your network say alerts. (irc.xmission.com) #xminfo or #xmlounge
[23-Sep-2008 14:39:24] <ke4qqq> ahhh ok
[23-Sep-2008 14:39:36] <ke4qqq> that could be interesting as well
[23-Sep-2008 15:21:20] <Firestar> How can I pass parameters to a command to run every time an event is created by Zenoss?
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[23-Sep-2008 21:46:16] <robbiet480> hey im trying to get zenoss working on leopard server
[23-Sep-2008 21:46:29] <robbiet480> im getting a mysql error which i fixed but now im getting a ld library not found error
[23-Sep-2008 21:46:32] <robbiet480> can anyone help me?
[23-Sep-2008 21:47:23] <robbiet480> or any leopard and zenoss help at all
[23-Sep-2008 21:54:54] <robbiet480> awww
[23-Sep-2008 21:54:59] <robbiet480> i was hoping someone could
[23-Sep-2008 23:12:59] <daMaestro> blah, mochkit-- # being a js lib
[23-Sep-2008 23:13:08] <daMaestro> mochikit*
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[24-Sep-2008 00:09:04] <daMaestro> finally. figured out how to use the INPUT({'type': 'checkbox'}) and actually store the fact it checked and re-render it's state later. blah.
[24-Sep-2008 00:16:30] <daMaestro> is there any documentation on how we can use ZPT with a portlet?
[24-Sep-2008 00:16:47] <daMaestro> i'm very much feeling limited by this js framework
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:01] <daMaestro> hmm.. i'd also like some information regarding what i should do about persisting data for a given portlet
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:17] <daMaestro> aka, we have a limit on the api i'm sourcing data from (webmetrics)
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:43] <daMaestro> also, i would like to use http://code.google.com/p/flot/ to render my graphs
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: flot - Google Code (at code.google.com)
[24-Sep-2008 00:34:54] <daMaestro> and. fuck.
[24-Sep-2008 00:35:08] <daMaestro> zenpack --remove doesn't just install.
[24-Sep-2008 00:35:13] <daMaestro> hmmm un-install
[24-Sep-2008 00:35:33] <daMaestro> that. sucks.
[24-Sep-2008 00:36:55] <daMaestro> i guess i really did just want to start over.
[24-Sep-2008 00:38:35] * daMaestro blames zenoss-logger
[24-Sep-2008 00:40:30] <daMaestro> yesss. irc logs + pastebin == success
[24-Sep-2008 01:40:10] <daMaestro> does callback({responseText:html}); strip <script> tags?
[24-Sep-2008 01:41:26] <daMaestro> gah, this might be the reason the google maps portlet uses and iframe
[24-Sep-2008 01:41:29] <daMaestro> s/and/an/
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[24-Sep-2008 07:48:36] <Lunex> hi i got a ( newbie ) question regarding WMI : on each monitored windows server i get an event ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT or WMI connect error and i dont know how to deal with it. can anyone give me a hint what this is exactly or how to stop it ?
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[24-Sep-2008 12:01:51] <boran> What password is initially given to the zenoss user (unix account) when installing via rpm?
[24-Sep-2008 12:02:21] <boran> ...or do I break something if I change it?
[24-Sep-2008 12:46:50] <mshundal> user: admin
[24-Sep-2008 12:46:54] <mshundal> pass: zenoss
[24-Sep-2008 12:47:31] <mshundal> ow nix account, no idea... try passwd zenoss
[24-Sep-2008 13:31:05] <boran> mshundal: Thank you.
[24-Sep-2008 13:33:08] <mshundal> anytime
[24-Sep-2008 14:48:44] <nemo_> sup zenoss ppl
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:08] <nemo_> i am looking at index 2 of the admin guide
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:12] <nemo_> getDeviceGroupNames
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:20] <nemo_> is there a setDeviceGroupNames
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:29] <nemo_> i see many gets, no sets !
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:40] <nemo_> i want to set device groups from an imported file.
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:54] <nemo_> in py
[24-Sep-2008 14:59:41] <sn1ffer72> Does anyone monitor multiple CPUs or cores with zenoss?
[24-Sep-2008 15:00:04] <sn1ffer72> my question is specifically around charting
[24-Sep-2008 15:02:25] <nemo_> yes i do , but it doesnt mean i can answer, but carry on ....
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:01] <sn1ffer72> Ok.. when I used Solarwinds IpMonitor it discovered each core on each CPU and graphed it
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:22] <sn1ffer72> Zen does graph CPU utilization, but it appears to only be for 1 CPU
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:25] <sn1ffer72> and 1 core
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:26] <nemo_> that doesnt sound so zenoss related
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:33] <sn1ffer72> it discovers the other CPUs
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:50] <nemo_> well just because it makes four graphs doesnt mean anything
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:09] <nemo_> you can have cpu usage from 1-400% for 4 procs for example
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:10] <nemo_> like top
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:21] <nemo_> you dont neccesarily have to do each one
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:54] <sn1ffer72> what I had seen with IpMonitor is that it will report some as 100%
[24-Sep-2008 15:05:07] <sn1ffer72> then when I dove down.. it was for only 1 core
[24-Sep-2008 15:05:20] <sn1ffer72> so I am just making sure I do not run into that one again
[24-Sep-2008 15:07:29] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/mec30f4b
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[24-Sep-2008 15:07:40] <nemo_> can anyone answer me about setting groups ?
[24-Sep-2008 15:07:51] <nemo_> its not like i dont try to help ppl in here
[24-Sep-2008 15:08:03] <nemo_> bit of help back once in a while might keep me keen
[24-Sep-2008 15:17:38] <sn1ffer72> what are you tring to do with groups?
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:16] <nemo_> i want to set device groups from an imported file.
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:30] <nemo_> e.g. csv with format:
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:43] <nemo_> device,primarygroup,extragrp,ext,ext2,ext3
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:50] <nemo_> i got all that working in py
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:00] <nemo_> reading in the file, splitting lines etc
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:03] <nemo_> but
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:10] <nemo_> d=dmd.Devices.findDevice(device)
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:10] <nemo_> d.setGroups(pgroup)
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:14] <nemo_> that doesnt seem to work.
[24-Sep-2008 15:21:49] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/mec30f4b
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[24-Sep-2008 15:22:12] <sn1ffer72> I created an import file
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:13] <sn1ffer72> /Devices/Server/Linux
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:16] <sn1ffer72> host1
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:17] <sn1ffer72> host2
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:21] <sn1ffer72> /Devices/Server/Windows
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:23] <sn1ffer72> host3
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:25] <sn1ffer72> host4
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:29] <nemo_> thats from the web
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:32] <sn1ffer72> no
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:33] <sn1ffer72> cli
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:33] <nemo_> i read that too
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:41] <nemo_> i seen it on the web
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:42] <nemo_>
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:46] <sn1ffer72> oh
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:56] <sn1ffer72> worked like a charm
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:06] <sn1ffer72> else.. I am not sure I understand your question
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:30] <nemo_> its pretty simple
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:48] <nemo_> the last 2 lines dont work, they should set the group first group of the device
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:49] <sn1ffer72> ah
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:59] <sn1ffer72> I see the link that you just posted
[24-Sep-2008 15:24:51] <sn1ffer72> are you trying to put the same node in multiple device groups?
[24-Sep-2008 15:26:12] <nemo_> i just want to set any groups
[24-Sep-2008 15:26:23] <nemo_> has anyone done this ?
[24-Sep-2008 15:26:57] <sn1ffer72> when i did the import it automatically added the nodes to those device groups
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:07] <nemo_> yeh but thats an initial import
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:12] <sn1ffer72> ok
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:19] <sn1ffer72> so your trying to do it on an update?
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:21] <nemo_> this is an existing 3500 device system
[24-Sep-2008 15:28:02] <nemo_> and i have bent the managers ear to make a csv list and place it into a location
[24-Sep-2008 15:28:21] <nemo_> then i jsut run my script every X and machine owner ships are taken care of
[24-Sep-2008 15:33:32] <sn1ffer72> I am still very new at this product but perhaps the zenmodeler command from the cli
[24-Sep-2008 15:40:22] <nemo_> modeller wont do it
[24-Sep-2008 15:40:39] <nemo_> i will add this to my zenoss support call i have open, if they reply ... .
[24-Sep-2008 17:23:18] <sn1ffer72> has anyone tried to forward zenoss alarms to a northbound monitoring platform like netcool, hpov, etc etc?
[24-Sep-2008 17:25:57] <nemo2> events db is mysql, not hard to do i guess
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:03] <nemo2> but no
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:10] <sn1ffer72> great idea thanks
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:25] <sn1ffer72> wish I could help nemo on the device groups
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:34] <sn1ffer72> if I trip across it I will be sure to let you know
[24-Sep-2008 17:27:39] <nemo2> tx sn1ffer72 , will get it solved sooner or later
[24-Sep-2008 18:06:34] <jmp242> nemo2: have you looked at the script called scotts batch loader in the forums?
[24-Sep-2008 18:07:06] <jmp242> it might have some info how to do that, though I only really recall them doing classes and not necessarily groups
[24-Sep-2008 19:33:36] <caseyh2007> Anyone have experience installing zenoss 2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0?
[24-Sep-2008 20:40:26] <caseyh2007> any one have experience installing Zenoss 2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0?
[24-Sep-2008 23:08:45] <daMaestro> where is /simpleLocationGeoMap located?
[24-Sep-2008 23:08:53] <daMaestro> (it seems like a view template)
[24-Sep-2008 23:10:48] <daMaestro> ah, there it is
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[25-Sep-2008 00:20:26] <daMaestro> if anyone figures out a way to put zope in debug mode so i don't have to keep restarting it as i debug plugins, that would be super
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[25-Sep-2008 07:38:51] <greed> Hey guys, Where can I get a complete list of datapoints ?
[25-Sep-2008 11:50:02] <nemo|> anyone know how to set a devices groups via zendmd
[25-Sep-2008 11:50:05] <nemo|> pls
[25-Sep-2008 14:27:32] * haydnh
[25-Sep-2008 14:28:09] <malbon> yo haydn
[25-Sep-2008 14:28:25] <malbon> did you scare all the other people away?
[25-Sep-2008 14:33:51] <nemo|> no i asked a real question
[25-Sep-2008 14:33:55] <nemo|> that scared em off
[25-Sep-2008 14:35:33] <malbon> more than likely
[25-Sep-2008 14:37:12] <malbon> hi chet
[25-Sep-2008 14:38:54] <cluther> Morning, Mike.
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:01] <cluther> At least for me it is.
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:13] <haydnh> Hey Chet
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:39] <cluther> The whole crew is here, eh?
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:49] <haydnh> Looks that way =)
[25-Sep-2008 14:41:21] <haydnh> Chet, before we start - I tried you ABS patch and I still get the invalid literal for float(): ABS error when using a MIN/MAX value
[25-Sep-2008 14:41:44] <cluther> What's your RPN look like?
[25-Sep-2008 14:42:25] <malbon> I have a meeting at 11 sadly, how long are you around for today?
[25-Sep-2008 14:42:51] <cluther> All day! Not on IRC, but you know how to reach me.
[25-Sep-2008 14:43:01] <haydnh> With the ABS but no min/max value it looks fine (all +ve), with the MIN/MAX I can't load the perf tab to see
[25-Sep-2008 14:43:20] <haydnh> Mike - you've got Chets personal mobile number right? ;P
[25-Sep-2008 14:43:57] <malbon> I'm sure we have that somewhere....
[25-Sep-2008 14:45:36] <cluther> haydnh: Can you show me the RPN?
[25-Sep-2008 14:46:45] <haydnh> brb - Tomi's got great timing with his phone calls!
[25-Sep-2008 14:52:46] <haydnh> chet - do you want the dump aswell as the rrd?
[25-Sep-2008 14:53:37] <malbon> Is there a way we can make a graph using the RPN to add cached and buffered memory into a graph for linux? can we just use ${here/memCached} etc in the predicate?
[25-Sep-2008 14:55:47] <cluther> malbon: I don't think any RPN is required for this. Can't you just add the memCached/memBuffer data points to the graph?
[25-Sep-2008 14:56:44] <malbon> cluther: actually I'd like memAvail+memCached+memBuffer in one line
[25-Sep-2008 14:57:45] <cluther> ah.. you'd need to add a CDEF to the graph to add them.
[25-Sep-2008 14:58:32] <malbon> cluther: ok I'll take a look.
[25-Sep-2008 14:58:42] <cluther> btw, the memAvail value returned from Net-SNMP is total RAM - memUsed - memBuffer - memCached - memShared
[25-Sep-2008 14:59:59] <malbon> yup, it's a bit odd to explain to people about cached and buffers
[25-Sep-2008 15:00:05] <malbon> anyhow bbl.
[25-Sep-2008 15:00:18] <haydnh> Hi Matt
[25-Sep-2008 15:01:14] <mrayzenoss> good morning everybody
[25-Sep-2008 15:01:41] <caseyh2007> good morning
[25-Sep-2008 15:01:44] <bedwards> hello
[25-Sep-2008 15:03:44] <mrayzenoss> testing out our new google mini for searching the website
[25-Sep-2008 15:03:48] <mrayzenoss> it's really fast
[25-Sep-2008 15:03:58] <mrayzenoss> and seems to do a good job of finding everything
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:48] <caseyh2007> Im having issues compiling zenoss-2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 here is the forum post http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7485
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:54] <mrayzenoss> IT is tweaking it now, hopefully we can unleash it soon
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2.3 FreeBSD 7.0 Install error (at forums.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:55] <caseyh2007> any help is appreciated
[25-Sep-2008 15:05:31] <bedwards> He oÃdo a responder a cualquier pregunta de nuestro habla hispana usuarios.
[25-Sep-2008 15:06:43] <bedwards> Estoy aquà para responder a cualquier pregunta de nuestro habla hispana usuarios.
[25-Sep-2008 15:07:57] <mrayzenoss> caseyh2007: I was looking at that last night... we have a bunch of FreeBSD users, but I'm not one of them
[25-Sep-2008 15:08:22] <caseyh2007> well, ill keep looking on google
[25-Sep-2008 15:08:50] <mrayzenoss> that's with the 2.2.3 tarball?
[25-Sep-2008 15:09:26] <malbon> mrayzenoss: any news on 2.2.4?
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:04] <mrayzenoss> it's being uploaded to SourceForge and will be out today
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:13] <malbon> mrayzenoss: and enterprise?
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:22] <mrayzenoss> both today
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:27] <jmp242> Sweet... 2.2.4 YAY
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:28] <cluther> caseyh2007: I've seen that issue.
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:40] <cluther> caseyh2007: It happens on OSX too and I know a workaround.. one sec.
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:49] <malbon> cool.
[25-Sep-2008 15:11:38] <mrayzenoss> so 2.2.4 is landing today and the 2.3 beta starts next week
[25-Sep-2008 15:12:00] <mrayzenoss> big improvements in WMI and JMX, as well as a host of other fixes
[25-Sep-2008 15:13:08] <malbon> sounds good. hopefully it'll sort the troubleshooting of WMI problems.
[25-Sep-2008 15:15:31] <cluther> caseyh2007: I just responded to the forum post with the work around.
[25-Sep-2008 15:16:29] <caseyh2007> thanks ill check it out
[25-Sep-2008 15:20:31] <mrayzenoss> the WMI code and the JMX have both been substantially rewritten
[25-Sep-2008 15:20:56] <mrayzenoss> WMI is now completely asynchronous, like other Twisted calls
[25-Sep-2008 15:21:04] <mrayzenoss> so it should scale a lot better
[25-Sep-2008 15:22:12] <malbon> have the zenoss team put any thought into monitoring XP workstations?
[25-Sep-2008 15:22:12] <mrayzenoss> cgibbons knows a lot about the WMI rewrite
[25-Sep-2008 15:22:35] <cgibbons> dats me
[25-Sep-2008 15:23:23] <mshundal> question, is there a way to setup predictive snmp failure, ex one of my links is flaky so the server responds to 3 out of 5 snmpwalks but once z doesnt get a respond it doesnt even try again
[25-Sep-2008 15:24:37] <cluther> mshundal: zSnmpTries
[25-Sep-2008 15:24:56] <cgibbons> malbon: with the new Windows monitoring code we have coming in 2.3 it should work just fine (and it should work just fine now with SNMP); let me try it right now with the latest code and see.
[25-Sep-2008 15:26:16] <malbon> cgibbons: cool, I'm just asked here to monitor the workstations for eventlog etc. likely that in the future we'll want to use it to manage the desktop software inventory too.
[25-Sep-2008 15:26:18] <mshundal> would sticking that in the zproperties be fine (cant find it anywhere else)
[25-Sep-2008 15:26:57] <cluther> mshundal: You should already see zSnmpTries in the zProperties. I believe the default is 2. If you want Zenoss to retry 3 times instead you can set it to 3.
[25-Sep-2008 15:27:06] <mshundal> thx
[25-Sep-2008 15:27:38] <malbon> ok, another quick question, in reports, how can I select machines with a package installed starting with a string like "Microsoft Windows Server" or "redhat-release" ?
[25-Sep-2008 15:33:31] <mshundal> cluther, i set it to 10 but i still keep getting snmp down msg and soon as i run an snmpwalk from the webUI it works but the SNMP message presists
[25-Sep-2008 15:34:36] <mrayzenoss> I'm not familiar with the Enterprise reports, but have you looked at the Admin Guide for creating custom reports?
[25-Sep-2008 15:36:40] <cluther> mshundal: What is the zSnmpVer for the device in question?
[25-Sep-2008 15:38:48] <cluther> malbon: Check out this forum topic, it could be useful for the reporting question
[25-Sep-2008 15:38:48] <cluther> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=5887
[25-Sep-2008 15:38:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Reporting Question (at forums.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:08] <mshundal> its winserver 2k3, think its v1
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:41] <mshundal> but heres the output of snmpwalk
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:44] <mshundal> SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Hardware: x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10 AT/AT COMPATIBLE - Software: Windows Version 5.2 (Build 3790 Multiprocessor Free)
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:44] <mshundal> SNMPv2-MIB::sysObjectID.0 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.311.1.1.3.1.2
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:44] <mshundal> DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (25961790) 3 days, 0:06:57.90
[25-Sep-2008 15:41:59] <malbon> cluther: ok thanks, so I write a python method. excellent.
[25-Sep-2008 15:43:07] <haydnh> Hey Mike - I thought you loved python?
[25-Sep-2008 15:43:25] <malbon> haydnh: no sarcasm was involved.
[25-Sep-2008 15:43:48] <cluther> malbon: My sarcasm detector went off too.
[25-Sep-2008 15:44:42] <mrayzenoss> another quiet session. I guess everyone's just waiting for the 2.2.4 announcement
[25-Sep-2008 15:44:44] <malbon> wow, you all got false positives, who would have thought.
[25-Sep-2008 15:46:15] <mrayzenoss> anybody in Texas? I'll be at the Texas Python Unconference next month
[25-Sep-2008 15:47:47] <cgibbons> is anyone else from the team going there, mray?
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:04] <mrayzenoss> I'm working on bedwards
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:12] <cgibbons> jp should really go
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:14] <mrayzenoss> possibly JP, he loves Python so much
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:20] <mrayzenoss> jinx
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:32] <mrayzenoss> http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/09/24/texas-python-unconference-2008/
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:35] <cluther> It really is a quiet one.
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Texas Python Unconference 2008 | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2008 15:50:14] <mrayzenoss> and after that I'll be at Ohio LinuxFest
[25-Sep-2008 15:51:35] <haydnh> Well if you guys are ever at a London event I'll happily buy you a beer =)
[25-Sep-2008 15:51:54] <mrayzenoss> I keep trying to go to European events
[25-Sep-2008 15:52:33] <mrayzenoss> but they're a little more costly
[25-Sep-2008 15:55:16] <kells> Hey Matt, I'm happy to go to any of the Japanese events.
[25-Sep-2008 15:55:29] <mrayzenoss> me too
[25-Sep-2008 15:56:43] <mrayzenoss> Anyone not signed up for the 2.3 beta who's interested in participating?
[25-Sep-2008 16:02:46] <mrayzenoss> well, bedwards is out and there don't seem to be a lot of questions today
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:04] <mrayzenoss> thanks to everyone who attended, thanks cgibbons and cluther
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:18] <mrayzenoss> I'll have a log up soon and 2.2.4 will be announced on the blog/forums
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:23] <mrayzenoss> today
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:58] * haydnh apologises for hogging Chet's time!
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:17] <mrayzenoss> haydnh: we're just happy to get questions, today was really quiet
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:33] <malbon> mrayzenoss: are we on the list?
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:48] <mrayzenoss> malbon: for the demo? I believe so
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:54] <malbon> mrayzenoss: cool.
[25-Sep-2008 16:05:00] <haydnh> For beta? Yes we are Mike
[25-Sep-2008 16:05:46] <haydnh> I take it you're giving me a uktest-rtf-zenb01 server? ;P
[25-Sep-2008 16:06:22] <malbon> haha, yeah right, there is much chance of that as zenoss sponsoring us to go to the conventions in Texas
[25-Sep-2008 16:06:40] <mrayzenoss> you guys going to LISA?
[25-Sep-2008 16:07:06] <mrayzenoss> http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa08/
[25-Sep-2008 16:07:13] <adytum-bot> Title: 22nd Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA '08) (at www.usenix.org)
[25-Sep-2008 16:07:46] <malbon> we might if it were in the UK (maybe)
[25-Sep-2008 16:08:18] <haydnh> If it was in the UK and there was a bar next door is what Mike's trying to say... I think he reads BOFH too much
[25-Sep-2008 16:08:48] <malbon> with the Jboss (enterprise) zenpack, once the jmx connection is sorted out does it just work? or do I need to do stuff?
[25-Sep-2008 16:09:20] <mrayzenoss> malbon: I don't know the Enterprise stuff much, I can follow up offline if you like
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:04] <malbon> mrayzenoss: I'll raise an issue on the service poral.
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:22] <mrayzenoss> sounds good. OK, I'm out of here. Thanks again everybody
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:30] <haydnh> Cheers Matt
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:50] <malbon> see-ya matt
[25-Sep-2008 16:24:56] <daMaestro> has anyone successfully designed a custom service for a port that already has a service define?
[25-Sep-2008 16:25:26] <daMaestro> example: we'd like to design a service definition for port 80 tcp that has a pre-defined sendString and expectString
[25-Sep-2008 16:25:47] <daMaestro> this check would be in addition to the standard http service definition
[25-Sep-2008 16:33:00] <daMaestro> basically, if the http service is already added/monitored, i can't add a custom service that also monitors port 80
[25-Sep-2008 17:40:37] <williamhart> I am upgrading a vmware appliance from 2.1 to 2.2 and the conary command listed in the howto gives me a error "Too Many ='s"?
[25-Sep-2008 17:40:56] <williamhart> any ideas?
[25-Sep-2008 17:46:46] <daMaestro> yeah, don't use rpath ;-)
[25-Sep-2008 18:31:28] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I am trying to use the ApacheMonitor ZenPack - I get no graphs for anything other than Apache CPU Utilization and that one is blank I have verified that servername/server-status and servername/server-status?auto work (and have this running on multiple machines.
[25-Sep-2008 18:31:35] <ke4qqq> any thoughts on what I am doing wrong
[25-Sep-2008 18:31:37] <ke4qqq> ?
[25-Sep-2008 18:58:22] <nemo2> graphs is all about performance templates
[25-Sep-2008 18:58:46] <nemo2> do you have the apache monitor template enabled ?
[25-Sep-2008 19:01:47] <ke4qqq> how does one tell?
[25-Sep-2008 19:04:51] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, yo
[25-Sep-2008 19:05:00] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, that ZenPack uses mod_stats
[25-Sep-2008 19:05:04] <daMaestro> hmm mod_status
[25-Sep-2008 19:05:30] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, make sure that you are allowing your ZenOSS machine to access your mod_status url
[25-Sep-2008 19:06:27] <ke4qqq> yes it is
[25-Sep-2008 19:06:30] <ke4qqq> I can curl that
[25-Sep-2008 19:07:01] <ke4qqq> daMaestro: see my earlier message where I indicate that I can get to servername/server-status
[25-Sep-2008 19:07:04] <ke4qqq> so mod_status is working
[25-Sep-2008 19:09:46] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, can you telnet to the ip on port 80 and issues a GET /server-status?auto ?
[25-Sep-2008 19:11:33] <ke4qqq> daMaestro: http://fpaste.org/paste/6557
[25-Sep-2008 19:11:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6557 (at fpaste.org)
[25-Sep-2008 19:14:25] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, python /opt/zenoss/ZenPacks/ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg/ZenPacks/zenoss/ApacheMonitor/libexec/check_apache.py -H keymarkinc.com -p 80 -u "/server-status?auto"
[25-Sep-2008 19:16:27] <ke4qqq> http://fpaste.org/paste/6558
[25-Sep-2008 19:16:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6558 (at fpaste.org)
[25-Sep-2008 19:22:20] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, sooo i dunno
[25-Sep-2008 19:22:22] <daMaestro> ;-)
[25-Sep-2008 19:22:48] <ke4qqq> lol very helpful - I even remodeled thinking that would do it
[25-Sep-2008 19:23:26] <daMaestro> do the rrds even exist?
[25-Sep-2008 19:25:19] <ke4qqq> no - that's it.....
[25-Sep-2008 19:25:25] <ke4qqq> http://fpaste.org/paste/6559
[25-Sep-2008 19:25:35] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6559 (at fpaste.org)
[25-Sep-2008 19:26:55] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, i'll likely have a patch at some point
[25-Sep-2008 19:27:01] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, if you beat me to it... let me know
[25-Sep-2008 19:27:16] <ke4qqq> unlikely, my python is abhorrent, but I'll look into it
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:19] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, in the past, we have just extended the snmp agent and then queried our custom OIDs
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:30] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, we will likely be moving away from that, so i'll have a little of time to fix this zenpack
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:43] <daMaestro> the OSProcess definition is buggy also
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:48] * daMaestro complains some more
[25-Sep-2008 21:09:35] <ke4qqq> apparently I have forgotten a ton of what I used to know about zenoss - so I wrote up this template for monitoring a server - so I wanted to apply that to other machines - so I added the template to a zenpack, but now it seems that I can't use that template anywhere but the machine I originally created it on.
[25-Sep-2008 21:30:52] <robbiet480> anyone here gotten zenoss + leopard working successfully?
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:18] <cgibbons> meaning OS X ?
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:23] <robbiet480> yeah
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:32] <cgibbons> sure, that's what most of the devs use. are you trying to do it from source or?
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:45] <robbiet480> just trying to get it running at all lol
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:49] <robbiet480> but started with source
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:55] <robbiet480> im hitting the python-mysql-install bug
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:58] <robbiet480> gcc error 1
[25-Sep-2008 21:32:16] <robbiet480> i fixed that one
[25-Sep-2008 21:32:22] <robbiet480> and now im getting.... *lemme go look*
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:11] <robbiet480> hold on. running the install again
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:15] <robbiet480> btw its a PPC if that helps at all
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:31] <cgibbons> that makes it harder for me to double check
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:42] <robbiet480> lol
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:43] <cgibbons> although I do have an old PPC mini sitting next to me
[25-Sep-2008 21:34:53] <robbiet480> oh
[25-Sep-2008 21:34:55] <robbiet480> still on
[25-Sep-2008 21:34:58] <robbiet480> make: *** [mysql-python-install] Error 1
[25-Sep-2008 21:35:15] <robbiet480> checking zenbuild.log
[25-Sep-2008 21:35:52] <robbiet480> _mysql.c:38:19: error: mysql.h: No such file or directory
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:00] <robbiet480> hang on. lemme pastebin the good parts
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:04] <cgibbons> okie
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:15] <cgibbons> i'm guessing we've not successfully done a PPC OS X build before
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:17] <robbiet480> http://pastebin.com/m66ab46b
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:22] <robbiet480> nope.
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Bash pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:28] <robbiet480> its missing 3 files that it needs
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:37] <robbiet480> they are on the system its just i need to know where to put them
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:47] <robbiet480> a spotlight or local mysql.h would be helpful
[25-Sep-2008 21:37:47] <cgibbons> mine are in /usr/local/mysql-5.0.51b-osx10.5-x86/include/
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:10] <robbiet480> hrmm
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:10] <robbiet480> ok
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:16] <robbiet480> see unfournately this is leopard server
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:31] <cgibbons> that's using the regular download .dmg from mysql.org i think
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:48] <robbiet480> hrmmm. maybe ill just do my own sql server instead of the builtin
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:52] <robbiet480> i didnt even think of that
[25-Sep-2008 21:39:02] <cgibbons> do you have a MYSQL_HOME envvar set?
[25-Sep-2008 21:39:40] <robbiet480> dont think so
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:05] <cgibbons> that's prolly why
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:11] <cgibbons> the .dmg install adds it to your local profile
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:39] <cgibbons> this was in mine, for example:
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:43] <robbiet480> now i just gotta find where to set that to
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:45] <cgibbons> # MySQL environment
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:46] <cgibbons> export MYSQL_HOME=/usr/local/mysql
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:48] <cgibbons> export PATH=${MYSQL_HOME}/bin:${PATH}
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:48] <robbiet480> because again. leopard server
[25-Sep-2008 21:41:01] <cgibbons> yeah, maybe /etc/profile ?
[25-Sep-2008 21:41:34] <robbiet480> and then in /usr/local/mysql is what?
[25-Sep-2008 21:41:38] <robbiet480> bin include local and such?
[25-Sep-2008 21:42:33] <cgibbons> in my case mysql is a soft link to mysql-versionblahblahblah
[25-Sep-2008 21:42:35] <cgibbons> and then in there
[25-Sep-2008 21:42:52] <cgibbons> yeah bin, data, include, man, mysql-test, share, scripts, etc
[25-Sep-2008 21:43:56] <robbiet480> ok
[25-Sep-2008 21:43:57] <robbiet480> hang on
[25-Sep-2008 21:44:45] <robbiet480> its just the mysql-python which sucks
[25-Sep-2008 21:46:19] <robbiet480> i mean the whole thing would build if LD could find the lmysqlclient libraryr
[25-Sep-2008 21:47:13] <cgibbons> yeah
[25-Sep-2008 21:47:36] <robbiet480> im just gonna try installing via macports
[25-Sep-2008 21:47:38] <robbiet480> mysql i mean
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:22] <robbiet480> had a idea first
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:32] <robbiet480> linking the already installed mysql to /usr/local/mysql
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:33] <robbiet480> lets see
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:43] <robbiet480> can you do a ls of your /usr/local/mysql?
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:17] <cgibbons> of the link itself or the contents?
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:22] <robbiet480> contents
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:31] <cgibbons> COPYING configure* man/ support-files/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:33] <cgibbons> EXCEPTIONS-CLIENT data/ mysql-test/ tests/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:35] <cgibbons> INSTALL-BINARY docs/ scripts/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:36] <cgibbons> README include/ share/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:37] <cgibbons> bin/ lib/ sql-bench/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:39] <cgibbons> not too spammy
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:41] <cgibbons> thats 5.0.51b
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:42] <robbiet480> lol
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:43] <robbiet480> perfect
[25-Sep-2008 21:53:28] <robbiet480> cross yer fingers
[25-Sep-2008 21:55:52] <robbiet480> yay. kinda
[25-Sep-2008 21:57:32] <robbiet480> OMG! it worked!
[25-Sep-2008 22:04:06] <robbiet480> thanks a bunch!
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[25-Sep-2008 22:24:53] <cgibbons> robbiet480: cool! just setting the link up?
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[26-Sep-2008 10:24:15] <Han> jmp242, I just added an ip service for a forwared device, thanks for your support.
[26-Sep-2008 10:26:44] <Han> But now I want to actually use that thing... And it's not documented... :-\
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[26-Sep-2008 14:52:33] <daMaestro> so, we have a fully loaded dell 2950 with 12G of ram and 8 cores... and it's having trouble dealing with zenoss
[26-Sep-2008 14:52:55] <daMaestro> it looks like mainly a limit on iops for the disk array
[26-Sep-2008 14:53:01] <daMaestro> has anyone used SSDs with zenoss?
[26-Sep-2008 14:53:20] * daMaestro is considering buying a couple of 16GB pros for a zenoss partition
[26-Sep-2008 15:15:56] <ke4qqq> daMaestro: you're kidding right?
[26-Sep-2008 15:16:25] <ke4qqq> I run Zenoss on a Dual P3 700 or something admittedly with a few 15krpm drives
[26-Sep-2008 15:29:02] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, i think the 15k drives help you a lot
[26-Sep-2008 15:29:36] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, right now it's running on raid5 PERC5 w/3 7200 SATA drives
[26-Sep-2008 15:30:07] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, we also tuned the rrd settings to keep a lot, lot more data
[26-Sep-2008 15:30:44] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, 1 minute for 24h , 5m for 7 days, 2h for 6 months and 12 hours for 2years for the rrd settings
[26-Sep-2008 15:31:48] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, how many devices?
[26-Sep-2008 15:31:58] <daMaestro> [are you monitoring]
[26-Sep-2008 15:34:48] <ke4qqq> ahhhh ok
[26-Sep-2008 15:35:07] <ke4qqq> wonder if a ram filesystem would help you -
[26-Sep-2008 16:37:32] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, i'm actually writing init scripts now
[26-Sep-2008 16:37:45] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, (for a ram fs)... the goal, though, is to just get SSDs
[26-Sep-2008 16:37:54] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, how many devices do you monitor?
[26-Sep-2008 16:38:34] <daMaestro> right now, with only about half our devices monitored, we have 9574 RRDs
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[26-Sep-2008 17:15:49] <ke4qqq> wow, I monitor only around 100 devices - so no where close to that -
[26-Sep-2008 17:18:11] <krphop> ke4qqq: what are your io/s on your array?
[26-Sep-2008 17:18:49] <ke4qqq> I honestly haven't looked in a long time - hang on
[26-Sep-2008 17:21:47] <omar> recently I've got this error message every time I add a template to any device:
[26-Sep-2008 17:21:50] <omar> Type: ConflictError
[26-Sep-2008 17:21:50] <omar> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x974d, class Products.ZenModel.Device.Device, serial this txn started with 0x03871efa3e330dfe 2010-06-28 00:58:14.577992, serial currently committed 0x03871efa3e330e2d 2010-06-28 00:58:14.577993)
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:04] <omar> running Zenoss 2.1.3
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:39] <omar> what I do is a zenoss restart so I can eventually add a template or device
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:47] <omar> but the problem remains...
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:50] <omar> any idea ?
[26-Sep-2008 17:24:46] <ke4qqq> krphop: pretty lousy actually just below 40MB/s once I get cache out of the way
[26-Sep-2008 17:25:13] <krphop> i mean acutal i/o operations per second
[26-Sep-2008 17:25:35] <krphop> most of the time with rrd's its not throughput issues, but just the number of operations that need to be processed
[26-Sep-2008 18:57:12] <magnachef> is it possible to ping multiple interfaces on a single server?
[26-Sep-2008 18:58:39] <texasthunder> why does zenoss not send out alerts unless syslog is configured?
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[27-Sep-2008 07:32:15] <Xserver> I am trying to figure out why zenoss doesnt apper on server:8080 after successful installation
[27-Sep-2008 08:07:52] <Waxmaker> You have to start it up, maybe? Depends on how you installed it.
[27-Sep-2008 08:10:56] <Xserver> well... i figured it out..
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:02] <Waxmaker> What was it?
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:29] <Xserver> it wasn't starter
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:31] <Xserver> started
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:36] <Xserver> had to manually start it up
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:46] <Waxmaker> That helps.
[27-Sep-2008 08:12:40] <Xserver> shall i have to import the MIB's or generic MIB's are already available ?
[27-Sep-2008 08:13:17] <Waxmaker> As far as I can tell--I'm new to this myself--there's a lot already in there.
[27-Sep-2008 08:13:56] <Waxmaker> But apparently it's trickier than the GUI leads you to believe, to import new ones.
[27-Sep-2008 08:15:18] <Waxmaker> Personally, I'd be happy if DellMonitor could just recognize my machines consistently. It seems to figure them out only about half the time.
[27-Sep-2008 10:29:45] <Xserver1> What are datapoints ?
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[28-Sep-2008 05:43:24] <krphop> how do i reset the admin password?
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[28-Sep-2008 06:15:19] <ecalix> using zenoss, is it possible to have it look at a switch using snmp and have it make a list of all the MAC addresses that it has learned and what port it learned the address on? Think of this being done with several switches and wanting to search via MAC address
[28-Sep-2008 09:31:26] <nemo2> must be
[28-Sep-2008 12:01:48] <shakespear> hi - does anyone know how I can add the option "--step 3600" to an custom rrd command (I need a per hour graph not an per second graph)
[28-Sep-2008 14:47:17] <ecalix> using zenoss, is it possible to have it look at a switch using snmp and have it make a list of all the MAC addresses that it has learned and what port it learned the address on? Think of this being done with several switches and wanting to search via MAC address
[28-Sep-2008 15:20:51] <nemo2> must be
[28-Sep-2008 15:22:15] <krphop> i'm not sure the mac table is available via snmp
[28-Sep-2008 15:29:44] <ecalix> any other ideas on that? basically i do events. sometimes we need to track people down because their sharing things we dont allow on the network (porn). which we tend to follow their mac through the switches
[28-Sep-2008 15:33:21] <krphop> ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/supportlists/wsc6509/wsc6509-communityIndexing.html
[28-Sep-2008 15:35:55] <Waxmaker> Interesting idea.
[28-Sep-2008 15:37:01] <Waxmaker> Windows users? Seems like it would be easier to trace them through their login ID.
[28-Sep-2008 15:38:44] <ecalix> unfortunatly since its an event with about 600 people that lasts for a couple days each time several times a year, we dont use AD. since they bring their own system we have zero control of it other than where they plug into the network
[28-Sep-2008 15:38:57] <Waxmaker> Ohh, I see.
[28-Sep-2008 15:39:17] <krphop> qos ftw
[28-Sep-2008 15:39:45] <ecalix> they have a table switch they plug into, then each table switch goes to our cisco 3560. currently to hunt somebody down we look at the mac address table on the cisco to see what port(table) they are at, then log into the table switch and do the same to see what port they are on
[28-Sep-2008 15:39:51] <krphop> flex95 them at like 2mb
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[28-Sep-2008 18:47:34] <ecalix> so i got a alert from a switch saying that one of its ports was running at high usage. How do I alter that? such as turn it off for all the 10/100 ports, but make the gig port have that rule/alert applied to it?
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[29-Sep-2008 07:49:11] <Xserver> anyone available ?
[29-Sep-2008 09:30:11] <indika> I m using zenoss 2.2 and it takes around 20 min to restart zenoss all demons...
[29-Sep-2008 09:30:40] <zanaga> which part takes the most time?
[29-Sep-2008 09:50:58] <indika> zeoctl and zopectl starts in few seconds... all other demons takes around 4 min each
[29-Sep-2008 10:03:49] <indika> my traffic graphs drawing also has stoped from today.... I just done restarting zenoss only..
[29-Sep-2008 10:19:55] <zanaga> hmm..
[29-Sep-2008 10:23:30] <zanaga> what happens if you try to ping localhost
[29-Sep-2008 10:32:12] <indika> zanaga, It pinging in less than 0.01ms.. also the load average is normal..
[29-Sep-2008 10:35:05] <zanaga> but did it take a while to start?
[29-Sep-2008 10:39:21] <indika> zeoctl and zopectl starts in few seconds... all other demons takes around 4 min each
[29-Sep-2008 10:39:58] <indika> zanaga, zeoctl and zopectl starts in few seconds... all other demons takes around 4 min each
[29-Sep-2008 10:40:21] <zanaga> i mean the ping. Did the ping command take a few seconds to start?
[29-Sep-2008 10:41:17] <indika> zanaga, no its starting quick..
[29-Sep-2008 10:42:49] <zanaga> hmm..
[29-Sep-2008 10:43:06] <zanaga> then it must be something internal to zenoss..
[29-Sep-2008 10:43:12] <zanaga> can't help you there though =(
[29-Sep-2008 10:44:24] <indika> zanga, ok thanks..
[29-Sep-2008 10:48:52] <indika> my traffic graphs drawing has stopped from today.... I just done restarting zenoss only..
[29-Sep-2008 10:49:01] <indika> what may be the problem
[29-Sep-2008 10:49:54] <indika> but all demons are working fine..
[29-Sep-2008 11:26:29] <Xserver> is it possible to bind a template to a group in zenoss ?
[29-Sep-2008 11:27:34] <Xserver> I am unable to see any performance graphs in zenoss
[29-Sep-2008 11:27:38] <Xserver> anyone awake ?
[29-Sep-2008 11:28:16] <tarjei> Xserver: it should be possible
[29-Sep-2008 11:29:03] <Xserver> tarjei : i have created a new template but i have no clue how to bind it to the group..
[29-Sep-2008 11:29:15] <Xserver> also.. my performance grahps doesnt show up
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:18] <lahirup> google map doesn't load in zenoss 2.2.3
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:32] <lahirup> following is the error detail
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Type: KeyError
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Value: '172.16.130.0'
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Traceback (innermost last):
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[29-Sep-2008 15:21:10] <lahirup> google map doesn't load in zenoss 2.2.3
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:08] <lahirup> following is the error detail
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:13] <lahirup> Type: KeyError
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Value: '172.16.130.0'
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Traceback (innermost last):
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:16] <lahirup> Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:18] <lahirup> Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:20] <lahirup> Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 195, in _exec
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:22] <lahirup> Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 134, in pt_render
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:24] <lahirup> Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 104, in pt_render
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:26] <lahirup> <FSPageTemplate at /zport/simpleLocationGeoMap used for /zport/dmd/Locations>
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:28] <lahirup> Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 206, in __call__
[29-Sep-2008 15:51:58] <omar> A remote windows server must be monitored from a Zenoss server through a vpn, but the company hosting this remote windows server won't open any SNMP for security reasons
[29-Sep-2008 15:52:37] <omar> What would you do to monitor SNMP remotely anyway.... maybe some web service that transforms from SNMP to HTTP... ??
[29-Sep-2008 15:52:41] <omar> any ideas ?
[29-Sep-2008 15:54:49] <tarjei> omar: tunnel snmp ? Feks through a ssh tunnel or a openvpn tunnel
[29-Sep-2008 15:56:32] <omar> the company hosting this remote server won't open any snmp ... that's they final word ....
[29-Sep-2008 15:57:15] <omar> I suppose tunneling snmp would require snmp listening ports, wouldn't it ?
[29-Sep-2008 15:58:51] <omar> ....
[29-Sep-2008 15:59:02] <omar> ok I've got you...
[29-Sep-2008 15:59:19] <omar> you mean using ssh to encrypt snmp.....
[29-Sep-2008 16:02:19] <omar> tarjei: thanks .... I've got your point....... tryin'....
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[30-Sep-2008 02:49:16] <KeithBilly> evening. if I might get some help? I'm trying to transform and event based on it's count. Aka after receiving x alerts, or after evt.count >= x i want evt.severity = 4
[30-Sep-2008 02:50:07] <KeithBilly> I have a simple if evt.count >= 5: evt.severity = 4 but this doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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[30-Sep-2008 05:39:31] <Xserver> anyone awake ?
[30-Sep-2008 09:29:41] <indika> My Google map gives an error while loading the dashboard after restoring zenoss-core 2.2.0 backup to 2.2.4 It shows entire zenoss page again inside the google portlet window... Instead of google map..
[30-Sep-2008 09:32:59] <j0ey> hey.. is it possible to use oracle as db-backend for zenoss?
[30-Sep-2008 09:50:22] <j0ey> noone?
[30-Sep-2008 11:34:30] <j0ey> well... once again...
[30-Sep-2008 11:34:30] <j0ey> hey.. is it possible to use oracle as db-backend for zenoss?
[30-Sep-2008 11:49:33] <tarjei> j0ey: I don't think so - but you can give me the licensing money for an oracle db if that may help
[30-Sep-2008 11:49:57] <tarjei> If you need scalability, consider a mysql cluster.
[30-Sep-2008 11:50:25] <tarjei> I haven't tested that myself though.
[30-Sep-2008 11:58:50] <j0ey> no.. oracle / mssql is a requirement by one of our customers
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[30-Sep-2008 15:18:25] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I am getting an interesting zenwin error. WMI connect error on sql2k5.keymark.dom: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/zenoss/var/zenwin/sql2k5.keymark.dom'
[30-Sep-2008 15:18:42] <ke4qqq> it's not looking for a directory (tried creating one of those and it complained about it being a directory
[30-Sep-2008 15:20:07] <ke4qqq> I tried touching that as a file but it subsequently disappeared
[30-Sep-2008 15:20:54] <ke4qqq> this is on 2.2.3 on Centos 4
[30-Sep-2008 15:53:41] <Teltariat> Greets folks
[30-Sep-2008 15:54:07] <Teltariat> I've installed Zenoss, but I'm getting a "faultCode 8002 faultString Unauthorized" when I attempt to access its web portal
[30-Sep-2008 15:54:10] <Teltariat> Any ideas?
[30-Sep-2008 17:17:20] <MoutaPT> hi everyone, i've installed zenoss in FC7 in newer server as well as tested VMware appliacne
[30-Sep-2008 17:17:39] <MoutaPT> i'm newbie on it, the problem is that http is running for localhost in both cases
[30-Sep-2008 17:17:56] <MoutaPT> and it doesn't use apache only Medusa From Python i believe
[30-Sep-2008 17:18:13] <MoutaPT> how do i enable http for remeote acess?
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:05] <MoutaPT> any one here?
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:13] <daMaestro> so, how can we reset device uptime stats?
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:17] <daMaestro> MoutaPT, n
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:18] <daMaestro> o
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:50] <MoutaPT> daMaestro, do you know how to enable http on public ip address of my zenoss
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:07] <MoutaPT> tested new installation and vm appliance all listen only at localhost...
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:19] <MoutaPT> they don't run apache...
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:30] <daMaestro> MoutaPT, the best way is to use mod_proxy with apache
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:50] <MoutaPT> i thought that doing a basics install
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:53] <MoutaPT> would enable it
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:15] <daMaestro> nope
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:23] <daMaestro> zope, by default, listens on port 8080
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:28] <MoutaPT> that's something new no?
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:49] <daMaestro> you could tell zope to listen on 80, but the ideal way to do this is to use apache on port 80 and mod_proxy to zope
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:52] <MoutaPT> one year ago i tested it and just downloaded vmware
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:58] <ke4qqq> MoutaPT: no, been that way since 1.x
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:02] <ke4qqq> at least
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:04] <MoutaPT> h:)
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:06] <ke4qqq> maybe before that
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:08] <MoutaPT> cool!
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:11] <MoutaPT> nice to know
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:17] <MoutaPT> i was getting crazy
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:19] <MoutaPT> with this
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:35] <MoutaPT> easy command line for zope to 80
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:36] <MoutaPT> ?
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:47] <MoutaPT> just to test.. i will install apache
[30-Sep-2008 17:31:47] <daMaestro> gah, there has got to be a way to reset availability via the API
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[30-Sep-2008 17:37:11] <nemo2> so whp upgraded from 2.2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:37:17] <nemo2> who*
[30-Sep-2008 17:37:23] <nemo2> i only just sorted out 2.2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:37:28] <nemo2> i dont wanna be the first
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:26] <ke4qqq> nemo2: is there a new release?
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:37] <nemo2> i got an email that there was
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:39] <nemo2> you didnt ?
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:44] <nemo2> 2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:46] <ke4qqq> hmmm no
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:57] <ke4qqq> but yeah 2.2.4 is out
[30-Sep-2008 17:41:06] <nemo2> no i am mixed up, some new features are waiting for me in 2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:41:27] <nemo2> but yes its 2.2.4 thats just been releasesd
[30-Sep-2008 17:41:31] <nemo2> released*
[30-Sep-2008 17:42:06] <ke4qqq> interesting - well I think I'll apply that and see what happens
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:21] <daMaestro> ok, after so research (and a few quick scripts) i've found that availability is calculated by events in mysql
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:33] <daMaestro> is there any way to programatically clear events for a given device?
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:44] <daMaestro> (clear even history)
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:47] <daMaestro> event*
[30-Sep-2008 17:50:22] <daMaestro> ah, there is a stored procedure
[30-Sep-2008 17:50:30] <daMaestro> i wonder if there is a call on the Device object that I can make?
[30-Sep-2008 18:18:28] <MoutaPT> daMaestro do you use apache virtual host with mod proxy loaded?
[30-Sep-2008 18:21:30] <daMaestro> MoutaPT, yes
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:00] <MoutaPT> can you just past the entry you have for virutal host?
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:31] <MoutaPT> ProxyPass / http://localhost:8080
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:55] <MoutaPT> ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8080
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:57] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[30-Sep-2008 18:36:55] <daMaestro> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/manage_main
[30-Sep-2008 18:37:13] <daMaestro> lol
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[30-Sep-2008 19:50:57] <Khazwerk> heellloooooo
[30-Sep-2008 19:51:06] <Khazwerk> trying to get IIS events to Zenoss from an IIS 6 box
[30-Sep-2008 19:51:09] <Khazwerk> any advice?
[30-Sep-2008 19:53:47] <Khazwerk>
[30-Sep-2008 19:56:38] <ke4qqq> use wmi
[30-Sep-2008 19:56:50] <Khazwerk> doesn't pull iis
[30-Sep-2008 19:56:56] <Khazwerk> just event log
[30-Sep-2008 19:57:18] <ke4qqq> you'll have to tell it what to pull I assume WMI has access to that type of data
[30-Sep-2008 19:57:43] <Khazwerk> they're log files in the sys32 dir
[30-Sep-2008 19:57:52] <Khazwerk> so if I can get at them with wmi I'm unsure how
[30-Sep-2008 19:59:24] <ke4qqq> just upgraded to 2.2.4, and now zenwin's log shows this.... and I get connect error on machine.tld: 88: DOS code 0x00000058
[30-Sep-2008 20:01:21] <ke4qqq> Khazwerk: check the wiki
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:12] <Khazwerk> have, am
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:15] <Khazwerk> just trying here also
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:43] <ke4qqq> and the zenwin log error message: http://fpaste.org/paste/6777
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[30-Sep-2008 20:05:18] <ke4qqq> and yet more http://fpaste.org/paste/6778
[30-Sep-2008 20:05:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6778 (at fpaste.org)
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[01-Sep-2008 02:32:24] <coll> is there a good guide for installing zenoss on debian?
[01-Sep-2008 05:29:27] <imcdona> Also, from the manual it suggests that if you have example text in the example section it can be used to debug your regular expressions. How does that work? Also I fond that http://gskinner.com/RegExr/ is a must have to mapping events
[01-Sep-2008 05:29:35] <adytum-bot> Title: RegExr: Online Regular Expression Testing Tool (at gskinner.com)
[01-Sep-2008 10:58:45] <pb1dft> morning peeps
[01-Sep-2008 10:59:29] <pb1dft> does anyone know how to add a column to os/interfaces?
[01-Sep-2008 15:49:44] <mindbendr> hi, could someone explain what are the reasons using zenoss instead of nagios?
[01-Sep-2008 18:06:24] <zanaga> mindbendr: for me it was about not having to tweak configuration files, rather sane default configuration and the fact that it does the same as nagios + cacti (or mtrg or whatever)
[01-Sep-2008 19:55:24] <bchip> Basic question - what is the default admin account/password after installation?
[01-Sep-2008 20:05:20] <MrTux> bchip: admin, zenoss, as stated in the docs
[01-Sep-2008 20:05:46] <bchip> Yep, didn't work - I'll reinstall.
[01-Sep-2008 20:51:36] <bchip> worked that time.
[01-Sep-2008 20:51:39] <bchip> Thanks.
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[02-Sep-2008 06:08:22] <weechat2> Morning all
[02-Sep-2008 06:08:36] <weechat2> does anyone know of any nfs problems related to snmp ?
[02-Sep-2008 06:09:00] <weechat2> we get snmp warnings before we expirience nfs mounts hanging
[02-Sep-2008 06:09:13] <weechat2> just wondering if it is a known issue with you folks
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[02-Sep-2008 06:09:22] <]V[> ah that's better ;-)
[02-Sep-2008 06:18:05] * ]V[ standing by
[02-Sep-2008 07:46:24] <zanaga> i've never noticed any problems with nfs with snmp
[02-Sep-2008 07:46:42] <zanaga> almost all our hosts have some nfs services
[02-Sep-2008 09:01:54] <mindbendr> zanaga: thanks, does it use perl somehow? (considering the perl issue with RHEL based systems)
[02-Sep-2008 09:02:13] <zanaga> snmp? no
[02-Sep-2008 09:02:25] <zanaga> unless you configured some custom scripts to be run
[02-Sep-2008 09:03:19] <mindbendr> zanaga: zenoss
[02-Sep-2008 09:03:35] <mindbendr> ops.
[02-Sep-2008 09:05:22] <nemo> lol
[02-Sep-2008 09:05:30] <nemo> RTFM more like
[02-Sep-2008 09:19:09] <]V[> was the perl comment in relation to my snmp warnings followed by nfs troubles question ?
[02-Sep-2008 09:28:38] <]V[> ah sorry, is was reading badly ;-)
[02-Sep-2008 09:38:23] <zanaga> hehe.. i didn't really read too much either
[02-Sep-2008 09:38:32] <]V[>
[02-Sep-2008 09:38:45] <zanaga> mindbendr: no.. python mostly =)
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[02-Sep-2008 13:17:11] <phlax> Hi there, i want to change the severity of failed /Status/Ping alerts, for some devices. Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to change it using a transform but my alerts are all still critical
[02-Sep-2008 13:40:55] <nemo_> change it in the event class
[02-Sep-2008 13:41:08] <nemo_> goto zproperties and edit it there ( phlax )
[02-Sep-2008 13:41:31] <phlax> nemo_: i only want to change the severity for some devices (ie desktops)
[02-Sep-2008 13:41:58] <nemo_> ummmm
[02-Sep-2008 13:42:01] <nemo_> dont know then, sorry
[02-Sep-2008 13:42:14] <phlax> nemo_: thanks, out with pdb
[02-Sep-2008 14:46:16] <phlax> hi - does anyone know why zope.interface has been included as an egg in the current bundle? It is already provided in the zope code and throws errors about missing 'adapterImplied' with a default install (on debian). Removing it doesnt seem to cause any problems, but i cant help thinking its there for a reason.
[02-Sep-2008 17:40:20] <sto6ma9ch> Hello. I have a disk usage question about Zenoss
[02-Sep-2008 17:40:49] <sto6ma9ch> The server has its own 100 GB mounted disk for /usr/local/zenoss
[02-Sep-2008 17:41:05] <sto6ma9ch> The server shows that it's filled after two months
[02-Sep-2008 17:41:20] <sto6ma9ch> We have 108 devices, mostly Windows servers.
[02-Sep-2008 17:41:41] <sto6ma9ch> Is this typical, or could there be an issue with our setup?
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:04] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: do you clean up the zenoss database regularly?
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:28] <sto6ma9ch> Nope, never.
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:38] <MrTux> try /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zeopack.py -p 8100 -d 0
[02-Sep-2008 17:44:46] <MrTux> you should do this weekly
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[02-Sep-2008 17:48:28] <sto6ma9ch> MrTux: Thanks very much for the suggestion. I'll take a look at that when I get a moment.
[02-Sep-2008 17:48:56] <sto6ma9ch> MrTux: I don't seee this command in the Zenoss admin guide. Is this a documented feature?
[02-Sep-2008 17:49:57] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: i think so, if not it's part of zope and documented there. the zopedb doesn't do a garbage collection, so you need zeopack
[02-Sep-2008 17:50:35] <sto6ma9ch> I see. Well, thanks again. This software is amazing!
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[03-Sep-2008 00:30:18] <eurowerke> just compiled a fresh 2.2.3 version, a bunch of the daemons aren't running... how can I proceed to find out what the problem is?
[03-Sep-2008 00:46:42] <eurowerke> anyone?
[03-Sep-2008 00:47:13] <eurowerke> fresh 2.2.3 install on fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, 6 of the daemons won't start
[03-Sep-2008 00:47:37] <eurowerke> logs don't seem to reveal anything
[03-Sep-2008 01:05:10] <eurowerke> is anyone available to help me?
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[03-Sep-2008 05:46:09] <exkev> eurowerke, hrm.. I'm recalling I had that
[03-Sep-2008 05:46:18] <exkev> but it wasn't a fresh install
[03-Sep-2008 05:46:28] <exkev> I had busted upgrades due to hanging references in zeodb
[03-Sep-2008 05:46:58] <exkev> my db had been messed up for a long time, but I did finally sort it out
[03-Sep-2008 10:05:57] <mindbendr> I've installed Zenoss native packages and started but there's no web interface available, should I install some other additional package?
[03-Sep-2008 10:17:05] <nemo_> did you follow the install procedure ?
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:38] <mindbendr> for the native packages, yeah
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:41] <mindbendr> dloaded and installed rpms
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:59] <mindbendr> # /etc/init.d/zenoss start
[03-Sep-2008 10:21:59] <mindbendr> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 103: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[03-Sep-2008 10:22:02] <mindbendr> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 103: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[03-Sep-2008 10:22:05] <mindbendr> Daemon: zenhub starting...
[03-Sep-2008 10:22:13] <mindbendr> i get these errors for the first 2 processes though
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:12] <nemo_> did you set a password for mysql
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:20] <nemo_> if you did thats what messed it up
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:32] <mindbendr> yes I did
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:33] <nemo_> rpm -e the packages
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:38] <nemo_> rm -fr /opt/zenoss
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:45] <mindbendr> I set up
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:45] <nemo_> and redo it . dont set a mysql pass
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:50] <mindbendr> as the instructions say
[03-Sep-2008 10:25:59] <mindbendr> I set the root mysql pass and put it into zenoss config
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:07] <nemo_> your not listening to me
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:14] <nemo_> get zenoss up first and then set a pass
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:15] <mindbendr> yeah but it doesn't make sense
[03-Sep-2008 10:26:19] <nemo_> i gotta go , no time
[03-Sep-2008 10:56:44] <mindbendr> what's the default user/pass for the web interface?!
[03-Sep-2008 10:57:17] <monrad> admin/zenoss
[03-Sep-2008 10:58:57] <mindbendr> why is it not documented in the installation guides
[03-Sep-2008 11:00:38] <mindbendr> is there a client/server relationship or do i need to install zenoss to all servers I'd like to monitor?
[03-Sep-2008 11:05:36] <nemo_> sounds like you need to google and read up
[03-Sep-2008 11:05:46] <nemo_> we are here to talk about zenoss on going
[03-Sep-2008 11:06:00] <nemo_> not support people by telling them absolute basics
[03-Sep-2008 11:06:16] <nemo_> if the docs are wrong, get in touch with zenoss, its an opensource project
[03-Sep-2008 11:06:19] <nemo_> get involved
[03-Sep-2008 11:08:17] <mindbendr> nemo_: the documentation is so rubbish
[03-Sep-2008 11:08:30] <mindbendr> nemo_: that's why I'm asking here
[03-Sep-2008 11:09:47] <nemo_> well i said my bit
[03-Sep-2008 11:09:56] <nemo_> you wont get answers from me
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:04] <nemo_> i dont work for zenoss, i jsut use it
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:07] <nemo_> i owe you nothing
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:41] <mindbendr> i don't remember pointing you out to get some answers
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:48] <nemo_> no i sit in here
[03-Sep-2008 11:10:57] <nemo_> and your here asking the same questions for 3 days
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:07] <nemo_> i attempted to help you, but you seem to be an ass
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:11] <mindbendr> so just ignore it, someone else might come up
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:12] <nemo_> anyway /ignore going on
[03-Sep-2008 11:11:25] <nemo_> mindbendr added to ignore list. thx
[03-Sep-2008 13:19:04] <sn1ffer72> Who here has used the http zenpack?
[03-Sep-2008 13:44:41] <sn1ffer72> Never mind
[03-Sep-2008 13:44:42] <sn1ffer72> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[03-Sep-2008 13:44:59] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[03-Sep-2008 13:46:31] <sn1ffer72> any reason why zenpacks ending in -py2.4 will not load on zenoss 2.2.3?
[03-Sep-2008 13:50:20] <nemo_> something changed
[03-Sep-2008 13:50:31] <nemo_> now we use the .egg files or something
[03-Sep-2008 13:50:37] <nemo_> after upgrade to 2.2.3 anyway
[03-Sep-2008 13:58:17] <sn1ffer72> the older EL5 packs load no prob
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:06] <sn1ffer72> sweet
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:08] <sn1ffer72> fixed it
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:15] <sn1ffer72> you gotta rename the .zip files to .egg
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:29] <sn1ffer72> then load them via the CLI
[03-Sep-2008 14:07:34] <sn1ffer72> then restart the daemons
[03-Sep-2008 14:12:02] <nemo_> koolio
[03-Sep-2008 16:10:46] <daveto2> *sigh*
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[03-Sep-2008 16:11:13] <DaveTo1> Zenoss' use of RRDTools needs redesign
[03-Sep-2008 16:13:08] <DaveTo1> How can we create percentage-based thresholds if we can't use COMPUTE datasources?
[03-Sep-2008 17:22:14] <sn1ffer72> I just downloaded and tried out a competitor to zenoss called Hyperic HQ
[03-Sep-2008 17:22:23] <sn1ffer72> it sucks so don't waste your time
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:17] <daMaestro> how do we reset the admin password?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:23] <daMaestro> i didn't see it in the acl_users
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:31] <daMaestro> so it must be a zope user/pass?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:39] <sn1ffer72> in the web frontend or on the os?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:39] <daMaestro> i assume i can just use zpasswd?
[03-Sep-2008 18:56:59] <daMaestro> i don't care which, i just ldap enabled the instance and want to change the password for the admin user
[03-Sep-2008 18:57:58] <daMaestro> ah, i found the proper acl_users entry
[03-Sep-2008 18:59:55] <daMaestro> gah, well i sure broke something changing the root zope admin password
[03-Sep-2008 19:05:41] <sn1ffer72> seems like everything breaks something with this product
[03-Sep-2008 19:05:52] <sn1ffer72> I created the http template etc as directed via their docs
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:04] <sn1ffer72> now the zenhub service does not start
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:15] <sn1ffer72> so, I restored using a working backup that I setup on Friday...
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:33] <sn1ffer72> restored it.. and it does not do a wipe restore, but rather select items
[03-Sep-2008 19:06:43] <sn1ffer72> thus, the zenhub service still does not start
[03-Sep-2008 19:07:31] <daMaestro> it was because there was an ldap provided user "admin" that didn't have the proper roles mapped
[03-Sep-2008 19:07:36] * daMaestro fixed everything now
[03-Sep-2008 19:12:06] <sn1ffer72> I think the zenpack .egg killed it
[03-Sep-2008 19:12:09] <sn1ffer72>
[03-Sep-2008 19:13:48] <sn1ffer72> basically the errors for the zenhub service state that the app can no longer talk to the mysql db
[03-Sep-2008 19:17:21] <sj7trunks> are there any docs to add tabs or status indicators for events you've setup to monitor
[03-Sep-2008 19:17:23] <sj7trunks> ?
[03-Sep-2008 19:54:43] <eurowerke> i just completed a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 and a fresh install of 2.2.3 from source, and 4 of the daemons will not start
[03-Sep-2008 19:54:53] <eurowerke> anyone around to lend some help?
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:09] <sn1ffer72> yeah
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:10] <sn1ffer72> love it
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:23] <sn1ffer72> your better off downloading the preconfigured VMware appliance
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:27] <sn1ffer72> and the free VMWare player
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:36] <sn1ffer72> in my case I hosed the zenpack installer
[03-Sep-2008 19:55:37] <sn1ffer72>
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:19] <eurowerke> lol
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:25] <eurowerke> blah
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:29] <eurowerke> i already built this though
[03-Sep-2008 19:56:42] <eurowerke> I can log in and everything
[03-Sep-2008 19:57:01] <eurowerke> but zentrap, modeler, perfsnmp and process won't stay running
[03-Sep-2008 19:57:59] <eurowerke> AttributeError: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[03-Sep-2008 20:47:16] <sn1ffer72> see you guys tomorrow
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[04-Sep-2008 07:23:15] <shakespear> hi - I am trying to import Rack/Slot Informationen to Zenoss. Currently I haven't found any solution to write to the slot attribute of a device. I tried the method "manage_editDevice", but it overwrites other attributes with defaults.
[04-Sep-2008 14:23:52] <sn1ffer72> good morning
[04-Sep-2008 14:25:53] <sn1ffer72> does anyone know if there is a way to bulk load nodes into zenoss?
[04-Sep-2008 14:36:34] <shakespear> it is called zenbatchload: zenbatchload -i devices.txt
[04-Sep-2008 14:37:29] <sn1ffer72> thanks
[04-Sep-2008 14:46:35] <nemo_> shakespear, the admin guide contains all the available vars
[04-Sep-2008 14:46:51] <nemo_> you can also use the zport/manage zope interface to look into structure
[04-Sep-2008 14:57:50] * cheflog__ magnachef
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[04-Sep-2008 14:58:34] <magnachef> has anyone ever used the email delivery and receipt scripts for monitoring round trip times for email?
[04-Sep-2008 15:09:29] <shakespear> nemo_: thx, I know it is 'rackSlot', but how can I store information to it from an external Programm (i.e. I want to import Rack/Slot information from an Excel-Sheet - everything is finished except the actual write of the RackSLot# Attribute)
[04-Sep-2008 15:17:53] <axel> hello, i've capture cisco catalyst with zenoss and i got so many interface. some of them named unrouted vlan tangging / unrouted vlan tagging. does everybody knows about the term?
[04-Sep-2008 15:22:24] <magnachef> what do you mean by term?
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:15] <nemo_> shakespear, are you using python ?
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:33] <nemo_> axel: google on it
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:40] <nemo_> its been very much discussed
[04-Sep-2008 15:25:51] <shakespear> nemo_: yes
[04-Sep-2008 15:27:57] <nemo_> http://zenoss.pastebin.com/m35025357
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[04-Sep-2008 15:28:13] <nemo_> you normally need to use some kind of get() function
[04-Sep-2008 15:33:04] <axel> magnachef: i mean "unrouted vlan tangging"
[04-Sep-2008 15:36:33] <axel> i've google it, but i got how to ignore unrouted vlan. my question is why cisco produce / display unrouted vlan? does it zenoss bug? or something else?
[04-Sep-2008 15:36:50] <axel> any explanation?
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:34] <sn1ffer72> ok to confirm.. the zenbatchload file should look like this?
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> /Device/Server/Windows
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> crazy-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> funny-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> grumpy-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:35] <sn1ffer72> /Device/Server/Linux
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:37] <sn1ffer72> sleepy-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:43:39] <sn1ffer72> smelly-server
[04-Sep-2008 15:57:35] <shakespear> sn1ffer72: smells good
[04-Sep-2008 15:58:33] <sn1ffer72> nice
[04-Sep-2008 15:58:40] <sn1ffer72> I will start baking then
[04-Sep-2008 15:58:57] <sn1ffer72> I already cloned this VM so if it blows up once again I am good
[04-Sep-2008 15:59:53] <sn1ffer72> my final notice... if you try to install any ZenPacks that end in -py*.zip it will smoke your zenpack setup stopping communication with the mysql db
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:07] <sn1ffer72> so.. only load the zenpacks that are labled EL5
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:14] <sn1ffer72> this is my 5th install
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:27] <sn1ffer72> each time after I killed it loading zenpacks
[04-Sep-2008 16:00:30] <sn1ffer72> of the newer version
[04-Sep-2008 16:03:42] <shakespear> nemo_: do you mean I have to read everthing from the devices and than store it back with manage_editDevice(..rackSlot=<MySlot>, productionState=<read state> .. etc.)
[04-Sep-2008 16:04:03] <shakespear> i tried to avoid this ...
[04-Sep-2008 16:50:07] <eurowerke> blargh
[04-Sep-2008 17:26:09] <sn1ffer72> yes. that zenbatchload format worked
[04-Sep-2008 17:39:04] <sploozer> anyone have their zenoss system working with cisco gear? Zenoss keeps telling me the snmp agent is down but my cisco 3550 has everything up and running
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:03] <magnachef> i have a bunch of cisco gear workign fine
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:24] <magnachef> are you able to poll it via snmp?
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:28] <magnachef> from the server?
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:33] <magnachef> from the commandline
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:40] <sploozer> using the GUI interface
[04-Sep-2008 17:40:53] <sploozer> on my 3550 it does say "140" unknown community name"
[04-Sep-2008 17:41:10] <sploozer> but it has received 151 snmp packets and sent 33
[04-Sep-2008 17:41:13] <sploozer> i'm using snmp v3
[04-Sep-2008 17:41:14] <magnachef> ok, so you need to poll with the proper version of SNMP and community string
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:07] <sploozer> when I try to model the device it gives me nable to talk: SNMP info for 10.2.1.2 at 10.2.1.2:162 timeout: 2.5 tries: 2 version: v3 securityName: authType: privType:
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:16] <sploozer> I changed the SNMP version
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:29] <sploozer> under zproperties
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:33] <sploozer> right now i'm using noauth
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:36] <sploozer> just as a test
[04-Sep-2008 17:42:52] <sploozer> but I don't see an area in zenoss to put the group and username
[04-Sep-2008 17:43:33] <sploozer> the community is set to "public" rigth now
[04-Sep-2008 17:43:44] <magnachef> they're there, just under a not so intuitive name
[04-Sep-2008 17:44:55] <sploozer> hmmm
[04-Sep-2008 17:45:33] <sploozer> zWinuser
[04-Sep-2008 17:45:39] <`m3> any one else running 2.2.3+ collectors
[04-Sep-2008 17:45:51] <`m3> like a main zenoss server and a collector
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:03] <eurowerke> aside from the default collector?
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:09] <`m3> yes eurowerke
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:15] <eurowerke> ah not me
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:18] <eurowerke> you using enterprise?
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:35] <`m3> i am. but the only difference is hubs
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:46] <eurowerke> did you create the add'l collector?
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:49] <`m3> you cant make new hubs, but you can add collectors, AFAIK
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:50] <eurowerke> (s)
[04-Sep-2008 17:46:52] <`m3> i did
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:00] <eurowerke> what's the problem with it
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:01] <eurowerke> ?
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:04] <`m3> all seems to work, logs look good
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:11] <`m3> but the graphs display no data
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:21] <`m3> like theyre not broken, but theres no data
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:25] <`m3> nan
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:40] <`m3> is displayed where you would expect to see avg, max and so on
[04-Sep-2008 17:47:48] <`m3> the graphs are there , just dont have data
[04-Sep-2008 17:48:04] <`m3> zenperfsnmp logs are good , zenhub log is good
[04-Sep-2008 17:48:49] <sploozer> magnachef: whats the group field identified as ?
[04-Sep-2008 17:48:55] <sploozer> under zproperties
[04-Sep-2008 17:49:41] <magnachef> one sec
[04-Sep-2008 17:50:05] <magnachef> what do you mean by group?
[04-Sep-2008 17:50:32] <magnachef> and are you adding these devices to the /Devices/Network/Router/Cisco class?
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:10] <sploozer> hmm
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:15] <sploozer> looks like it collected some information now
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:22] <sploozer> i added the securityname in there
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:37] <sploozer> i was able to pull some stats, but it didnt pull CPU info
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:43] <`m3> eurowerke, http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179&sid=9d9cb7536758c48a393f8430ecee5307
[04-Sep-2008 17:51:45] <sploozer> or HW make
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to Solve Graphing Problems (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:07] <`m3> i done all that stuff already ( only just read that post but i already knew what to check )
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:31] <`m3> still no banana , but it seems not that mean people run with additional collectors
[04-Sep-2008 17:52:49] <sploozer> its under /network/switch
[04-Sep-2008 17:53:21] <magnachef> click on the down arrow (menu) under that device class, then go to "More" -> "Collector Plugins"
[04-Sep-2008 17:53:46] <sploozer> ok
[04-Sep-2008 17:53:54] <eurowerke> hrm
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:10] <magnachef> make sure you have all teh zenoss.snmp.Cisco* plugins added
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:25] <sploozer> only have four in there
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:34] <sploozer> do I have to add the cisco zen pack to populate all of that?
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:54] <magnachef> don't think so
[04-Sep-2008 17:54:55] <sploozer> it only has newdevicemap devicemap interfacempa and routemap
[04-Sep-2008 17:55:10] <magnachef> oh...click on the "Add Fields" link to the right
[04-Sep-2008 17:55:41] <sploozer> ok
[04-Sep-2008 17:55:50] <sploozer> i see cisco
[04-Sep-2008 17:56:15] <sploozer> zenoss.snmp.ciscomap
[04-Sep-2008 17:56:23] <magnachef> yep
[04-Sep-2008 17:56:31] <sploozer> save that and then refresh
[04-Sep-2008 17:57:49] <magnachef> yeah, remodel
[04-Sep-2008 17:59:29] <sploozer> ah
[04-Sep-2008 17:59:40] <eurowerke> you did all that m3 and no results?
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:08] <`m3> yeh thats why i want to find someone else who has collectors eurowerke
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:18] <`m3> want to compare settings
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:35] <`m3> i thought it might be the RenderServer settings
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:49] <sploozer> hmm still no memory/cpu info
[04-Sep-2008 18:00:52] <sploozer> after remodeled
[04-Sep-2008 18:01:04] <`m3> the docs dont mention anything, but in previous version you had to set that url / pass to the main servers details
[04-Sep-2008 18:01:14] <`m3> i tried it and it failed
[04-Sep-2008 18:01:36] <sploozer> I guess i need to add a custom mib?
[04-Sep-2008 18:03:29] <magnachef> yeah, there may be a zenpack for that
[04-Sep-2008 18:03:44] <sploozer> i see
[04-Sep-2008 18:04:20] <sploozer> i see the sectin for add mibs, if I wanted to have zenoss monitor environment constraints I would need to add the custom mib?
[04-Sep-2008 18:04:34] <sploozer> are you monitoring environmental characteristics?
[04-Sep-2008 18:07:50] <magnachef> you would, but I'm not doing that currently
[04-Sep-2008 18:08:26] <sploozer> ok
[04-Sep-2008 18:09:02] <Nate187> Is there any way to reference the interface properties (ifindex, macaddress, etc) in a data source command template in order to pass them as arguements to a script?
[04-Sep-2008 18:10:44] <magnachef> I don't know. I've always wanted a list of those available property variables
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:22] <`m3> there a list in the admin guide
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:36] <`m3> i am not sure it covers mac etc tho
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:43] <`m3> must be accessible though
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:51] <`m3> i struggle with that when scripting too
[04-Sep-2008 18:14:56] <Nate187> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/apcs02.html
[04-Sep-2008 18:15:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Sep-2008 18:16:33] <Nate187> there should be a way to get the attributes for the interface
[04-Sep-2008 18:21:21] <`m3> try looking in /zport/manage/
[04-Sep-2008 18:21:53] <`m3> careful not to change anything tho, i mean to understand the structure and possible attribute names
[04-Sep-2008 18:38:26] <sploozer> magnachef: when I do a snmpwalk on the 3550 it doesnt like anything after it completes, but it does not return an errors
[04-Sep-2008 18:39:49] <magnachef> define "doesn't like anything"
[04-Sep-2008 18:40:14] <sploozer> sorry...it does not return anything
[04-Sep-2008 18:40:31] <sploozer> actually it returned a few things this time, odd
[04-Sep-2008 18:40:49] <sploozer> but only a few mibs
[04-Sep-2008 18:41:03] <sploozer> not sure why its show snmpv2
[04-Sep-2008 18:41:48] <magnachef> are you walking via command line or through the interface?
[04-Sep-2008 18:42:03] <sploozer> gui int
[04-Sep-2008 18:42:44] <sploozer> ciscoEnvMonObjects.1 I'll have to add that
[04-Sep-2008 18:44:19] <sploozer> i'm having a conceptual problem I believe...I've enabled snmp on my gear but I does Zenoss have the ability to pull mibs automatically ?
[04-Sep-2008 18:45:33] <magnachef> only what's setup by default - which isn't much
[04-Sep-2008 18:45:57] <magnachef> you'll need to go through, add the data points to monitor, the thresholds, graphing stuff, etc
[04-Sep-2008 18:46:35] <sploozer> shouldnt snmp walk pull all the mibs/definitions from the switch?
[04-Sep-2008 18:47:11] <magnachef> snmp can do it, but Zenoss doesn't automatically add all of them for monitoring
[04-Sep-2008 18:47:18] <magnachef> that's where zenpacks come in
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:21] <sploozer> alright, I need to find where to add the cisco zenpack, I remember there was an area in the GUI which allowed you to add a zenpack
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:39] <sn1ffer72> yeah... doesn't work
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:45] <sn1ffer72> gotta add it via the cli
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:52] <sn1ffer72> copy it somewhere on the box
[04-Sep-2008 18:48:58] <magnachef> yep
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:05] <magnachef> settings -> zenpacks
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:11] <sn1ffer72> zenpack --install <zenpack module name here>
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:21] <sn1ffer72> then you will see it in the gui
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:29] <`m3> sploozer, you can add mibs with zenmib command or through the interface
[04-Sep-2008 18:49:42] <sploozer> ah there is
[04-Sep-2008 18:52:07] <sploozer> 'm3: i see, but do you go about searching for the proper mib on the device, is there a compiler which displays all the available mibs and defines their characteristics?
[04-Sep-2008 18:52:29] <`m3> i loaded the ones i was interested in
[04-Sep-2008 18:53:21] <sploozer> yea but where did you find out the purpose of those specific mibs?
[04-Sep-2008 18:54:27] <`m3> i use google for almost everything
like mibs for ibm x3550 or whatever[04-Sep-2008 18:55:00] <`m3> the only thing i found it helps with is translation of traps / events
[04-Sep-2008 18:56:24] <`m3> instead of seeing a number like .1.3.6. etc , you see some text
[04-Sep-2008 19:59:16] <rbw> hello!
[04-Sep-2008 20:00:10] <rbw> is it possible to set up distributed monitoring with zenoss core?
[04-Sep-2008 20:01:29] <rbw> I know there's built-in functionality for this in the enterprise version
[04-Sep-2008 20:21:51] <sploozer> magnachef: you there?
[04-Sep-2008 20:28:17] <sploozer> I don't understand why I only get a few mibs displayed when I run an snmp walk on my 3550 using Zenoss
[04-Sep-2008 20:28:30] <sploozer> do I have to include additional views on my 3550?
[04-Sep-2008 20:43:41] <`m3> sploozer, sounds like your snmp config is restrictive
[04-Sep-2008 20:44:18] <sploozer> i just found a respository of cisco mibs
[04-Sep-2008 20:44:26] <sploozer> i've gotta snmpwalk them I believe
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[04-Sep-2008 20:45:27] <`m3> you walk a device , not a mib surely
[04-Sep-2008 20:45:55] <`m3> maybe read about how snmp works ( no harm intended, it might help )
[04-Sep-2008 20:47:00] <sploozer> what I meant to say is I have to snmpwalk the device to pull the OIDs then I should be able to have zenoss understand those OIDs since I have pulled all the Cisco MIBs
[04-Sep-2008 21:07:06] <CamargoBP> Anyone here?
[04-Sep-2008 21:07:44] <CamargoBP> I've got a quick question.
[04-Sep-2008 21:09:30] <CamargoBP> I'm getting this error: 2008-09-04 14:55:53 ERROR zen.ZenDisc failed device discovery fo
[04-Sep-2008 21:09:44] <CamargoBP> Now I can't model and devices
[04-Sep-2008 21:09:59] <CamargoBP> Or add devices
[04-Sep-2008 21:10:27] <CamargoBP> I've been searching the forms but can't come up with anything
[04-Sep-2008 21:16:34] <CamargoBP> I rebooted the server and that fixed everything
[04-Sep-2008 21:23:42] <`m3> sploozer, i refer to my earlier statement. snmpwalking a device will have no effect on zenoss
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:10] <sploozer> i've added the MIB
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:14] <`m3> once you have your device load , you need to set the collector plugins ( per device or per device class )
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:22] <`m3> loaded*
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:24] <sploozer> into Zenoss....CISCO-ENVMON-MIB
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:29] <`m3> then model the device
[04-Sep-2008 21:24:59] <sploozer> i've added that in, but now I still need to setup OID mappings, I thought it would do that automatically if I scan the device again
[04-Sep-2008 21:25:24] <`m3> mibs ONLY translate oid ( numbers ) into text , e.g. 1.3.6.34.5.3.12.43.1 might be your system uptime
[04-Sep-2008 21:25:55] <sploozer> i understand that....
[04-Sep-2008 21:26:17] <sploozer> but now that I have a mib loaded I should be able to scan the box again s it can map the mib and the OID
[04-Sep-2008 21:26:29] <`m3> i am not certain about that, else you wouldnt keep going on about mibs
[04-Sep-2008 21:26:50] <sploozer> ok i'll leave that for a second
[04-Sep-2008 21:27:01] <sploozer> collector plugins I have selected I believe....
[04-Sep-2008 21:27:13] <`m3> modeling ( even with mibs ) is where you want to be
[04-Sep-2008 21:27:41] <`m3> then once have something modelled , if you have messages with oid numbers you cant translate, apply mibs to translate
[04-Sep-2008 21:28:10] <sploozer> I have 5 zCollectorPlugins loaded
[04-Sep-2008 21:28:19] <sploozer> which includes zenoss.snmp.CiscoMap
[04-Sep-2008 21:28:56] <sploozer> I then model the device
[04-Sep-2008 21:29:29] <sploozer> in this instance i set the plugins for a specific device
[04-Sep-2008 21:30:06] <sploozer> but where would it display the new information relating to the mib i loaded?
[04-Sep-2008 21:31:01] <sploozer> whats weird is I only have two component types when I'm looking at the device
[04-Sep-2008 21:32:18] <sploozer> 'm3: you there?
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:09] <`m3> sploozer, sorry i think you need to read about snmp and how zenoss works
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:23] <`m3> i am here to help people and be helped, but i read all the manuals and stuff too
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:37] <`m3> i am not here to teach you, sorry, you can do that your self
[04-Sep-2008 21:33:56] <sploozer> fair enough
[04-Sep-2008 22:20:50] <sploozer> hey `m3: thanks for your help
[04-Sep-2008 22:21:15] <`m3> cool, you got more success now?
[04-Sep-2008 22:23:44] <sploozer> well i'm currently reading some literature which is helping me understand better
[04-Sep-2008 22:24:13] <sploozer> do you have any recommended readings on the web for snmp/mib architecture?
[04-Sep-2008 22:24:19] <sploozer> just curious
[04-Sep-2008 22:25:27] <sploozer> ..
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:00] <sploozer> how I currently understand is, a MIB contains a ton of various related to a device the OID must be linked to that variable to pull it out via SNMP
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:34] <sploozer> so what I was constantly getting confused about was , if I have loaded a mib into zenoss, how do I determine all the relative OIDs for that MIB
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:40] <sploozer> w/o looking at the tree
[04-Sep-2008 22:26:49] <sploozer> does that make sense?
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:14] <`m3> the point is your dont have to
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:27] <`m3> think of an oid as a translation library
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:45] <`m3> you only need it if your see those numbers i was telling you about.
[04-Sep-2008 22:27:46] <`m3> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.0/ch09s12.html
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[04-Sep-2008 22:28:14] <`m3> zenoss has some basic mibs loaded
[04-Sep-2008 22:28:32] <`m3> unless your trying to model some weird device you prob dont need extra mibs
[04-Sep-2008 22:28:53] <eurowerke> is there a way to change the default sort field on the device list?
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:03] <sploozer> yea I understand that, but say i wanna monitor environmental variables
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:09] <`m3> yeh click the columns eurowerke
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:25] <`m3> like what sploozer
[04-Sep-2008 22:29:57] <sploozer> zenoss needs to extract the necessary information from the device to parse that information
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:03] <sploozer> via snmp
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:09] <`m3> yup
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:25] <eurowerke> well it doesn't stick m3
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:37] <eurowerke> to make it sort by default on a certain field
[04-Sep-2008 22:30:46] <eurowerke> it always sorts by name
[04-Sep-2008 22:32:16] <sploozer> after I load a MIB into zenoss, it should be able to snmpwalk the device and extract the necessary information since it has that preloaded MIB, correct?
[04-Sep-2008 22:32:28] <sploozer> if thats not correct, thats where my misunderstanding is
[04-Sep-2008 22:33:14] <`m3> eurowerke, ah i see what you mean
[04-Sep-2008 22:33:32] <`m3> trying exploring in /zport/manager/
[04-Sep-2008 22:34:06] <`m3> i am not sure if the sort order is set in code somewhere or in the zeo db ( manage that with /zport/manage/ )
[04-Sep-2008 22:34:40] <`m3> snmpwalk is 1000% unrelated to zenoss
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:00] <`m3> only simularity is they both use snmp
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:18] <sploozer> haha, snmpwalk allows you to list all the OIDS of a device
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:21] <sploozer> i see
[04-Sep-2008 22:35:29] <`m3> snmpwalk just walks the devie and displays the data it finds
[04-Sep-2008 22:36:26] <`m3> you are trying to fix a problem that doesnt exist
[04-Sep-2008 22:36:36] <`m3> stop worrying about mibs
[04-Sep-2008 22:37:00] <sploozer> hah alright...that is indeed what I keep getting wrapped around on
[04-Sep-2008 22:41:02] <sploozer> im gonan test out this 2950 laying around the barn
[04-Sep-2008 23:02:08] <eurowerke> 2950?
[04-Sep-2008 23:02:10] <eurowerke> procurve?
[04-Sep-2008 23:03:23] <monrad> 2950 sounds like cisco
[04-Sep-2008 23:13:12] <eurowerke> oh
[04-Sep-2008 23:13:13] <eurowerke> lol
[04-Sep-2008 23:32:26] <sploozer> yea its cisco
[04-Sep-2008 23:32:27] <sploozer> lol
[04-Sep-2008 23:58:43] <crashdummyMCH> has anyone tried running zenoss on ibm powerpc?
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[05-Sep-2008 09:00:11] <Han> how can I make sure specific users can only see events from specific locations?
[05-Sep-2008 09:48:51] <Comradin> am trying to install zenoss, but my database is running on a different machine.. looking at the opts I can set port and login credentials, but not the server?
[05-Sep-2008 09:50:26] <Comradin> the admin guide tells me that I have to change it in a running zenoss instance..
[05-Sep-2008 09:50:49] <Comradin> bad luck, the server I am going to install runs mysql 4.1 not 5
[05-Sep-2008 11:56:19] <cocolo> zenoss not good, probe me I am wrong!!!
[05-Sep-2008 12:01:53] <nemo_> considered yourself probed then
[05-Sep-2008 12:03:24] <zanaga> http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=zenoss+good&word2=zenoss+bad
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[05-Sep-2008 12:36:02] <cocolo> OK nemo_ I will spell correctly, now
[05-Sep-2008 12:36:14] <cocolo> zenoss not good, prove me I am wrong!!
[05-Sep-2008 12:38:45] <guym> hello
[05-Sep-2008 12:40:42] <guym> anyone on this channel?
[05-Sep-2008 12:41:40] <nemo_> cocolo, negative
[05-Sep-2008 12:41:47] <nemo_> prove yourself
[05-Sep-2008 12:43:13] <guym> hi nemo_ is it okay to ask zenoss questions here?
[05-Sep-2008 12:44:53] <nemo_> yes guym , however if you just cant be bothered to read about it , dont expect answers to silly questions
[05-Sep-2008 12:45:33] <guym> nemo_ sure, thanks
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:02] <guym> my question is about using apache as the webserver instead of zope so that I may use webauth for authentication
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:14] <nemo_> web auth ?
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:27] <nemo_> i use ldap against zope / zenoss for auth
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:28] <guym> kerberos based http auth,
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:37] <nemo_> hmmm i dont know much about it all
[05-Sep-2008 12:46:41] <nemo_> at all*
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:16] <guym> the auth part is stage 2
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:31] <guym> before I can test that, I need to be able to use apache as the webserver
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:36] <guym> do you know anything about that?
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:48] <nemo_> i got a feeling it just wont work
[05-Sep-2008 12:47:56] <nemo_> zope and zenoss are a package
[05-Sep-2008 12:48:37] <guym> I'm starting to think that. There are instructions out there for using apache with zope, but not with the zenoss flavour of zope
[05-Sep-2008 12:49:06] <guym> for example, in my /opt/zenoss/doc/WEBSERVER.txt
[05-Sep-2008 12:49:15] <guym> i.e. this file http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/trunk/doc/WEBSERVER.txt
[05-Sep-2008 12:49:48] <guym> but the method used by zenoss to configure and start zope is quite different
[05-Sep-2008 13:08:48] <cocolo> Ok nemo_, I installed zenoss = straight forward with the RPM in centos,
[05-Sep-2008 13:09:44] <cocolo> then I try and discover the network, = it pings the whole network, ( We can do that with nmap as well )
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:12] <cocolo> and no information from servers,
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:22] <cocolo> so prove me I am wrong,
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:49] <cocolo> I need snmp for the servers right?
[05-Sep-2008 13:10:53] <cocolo> wich packages?
[05-Sep-2008 13:11:21] <cocolo> for centos5 for example.
[05-Sep-2008 13:12:13] <guym> cocolo: I use net-snmp-utils-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1
[05-Sep-2008 13:12:13] <guym> net-snmp-libs-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1
[05-Sep-2008 13:12:13] <guym> net-snmp-5.3.1-24.el5_2.1
[05-Sep-2008 13:16:10] <cocolo> :q!
[05-Sep-2008 13:16:22] <cocolo> sorry, wrong window...
[05-Sep-2008 13:33:09] <sn1ffer72> Is there a way to bulk administrate devices
[05-Sep-2008 13:33:23] <sn1ffer72> meaning.. select them all to be administrated by a particular account?
[05-Sep-2008 13:34:34] <cocolo> Ok, now its discovering, but what about the devices that don't have snmp available (old unix/linux distributions)
[05-Sep-2008 13:36:50] <nemo_> cocolo, i have zero intention of proving you wrong
[05-Sep-2008 13:36:58] <nemo_> so pls dont ask
[05-Sep-2008 13:37:07] <nemo_> i made it clear now i hope
[05-Sep-2008 13:37:20] <nemo_> cocolo added to ignore list.
[05-Sep-2008 13:50:30] sploozer is now known as Guest68841
[05-Sep-2008 13:51:14] <sploozer> anyone know where I can get a backup of all the default files in /zenoss/bin ?? They were deleted by mistake....
[05-Sep-2008 13:51:35] <sploozer> is there a /reinstall feature in the setup on linux?
[05-Sep-2008 13:54:48] <sploozer> anyone have a pub with the zenoss/bin files?
[05-Sep-2008 13:56:44] <nemo_> the IQ of this channel is going downwards i am sure
[05-Sep-2008 14:02:29] <Bulwinkle> nemo_: hahah
[05-Sep-2008 14:15:27] <Comradin> Id like to put Apache in Front of my Zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 14:16:01] <Comradin> that I do not need to use the 8080 port for accessing the zenoss interface
[05-Sep-2008 14:19:03] <tklt_> nemo_ the fact that somebody doesn't know, and asks doesn't mean IQ is llow, IQ low would be if they don't ask and stay stupid for ever (adding the low IQ)
[05-Sep-2008 14:22:24] <Comradin> or substracting it?
[05-Sep-2008 14:22:44] <Comradin> anyway, any ideas how to put zenoss behind an apache webserver?
[05-Sep-2008 14:22:52] <tklt_> IQ low all the way is when there is someone who knows a little about something little and criticizes because someone else doesn't know
[05-Sep-2008 14:23:48] <tklt_> bye _nemo
[05-Sep-2008 14:24:03] <tklt_> or <n emo_
[05-Sep-2008 14:28:21] <mf2ng> hehe
[05-Sep-2008 14:31:11] <mf2ng> there's nothing more stupid than ppl speaking of how stupid other ppl are. If one does see other ppl questions "smart enough" they should keep their mouth shut and consentrate for bashing their heads to the wall...
[05-Sep-2008 14:31:30] <mf2ng> does *not*
[05-Sep-2008 14:32:12] <mf2ng> and note to self: keep your glasses on when you write so can see what you write
[05-Sep-2008 14:34:35] <mf2ng> the problem is, in my opinion, that the zenoss offers so many features that is not found in any ms-based software that it attracts ppl from ms-world and darn they are confused for a year or two =)
[05-Sep-2008 14:35:18] <mf2ng> they doesn't seem to understand that while zenoss can be run in ms with virtual appliance, it's still needing some basic linux skills
[05-Sep-2008 14:37:06] <dom> i try install zenoss on linux but no c:\zenoss what i do wrong?
[05-Sep-2008 14:37:57] <Comradin> there is no c:\ in linux?
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:03] <mf2ng> nice but obvious troll =)
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:05] <Comradin> the filesystem starts with /
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:08] <Comradin>
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:08] <dom>
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:43] <mf2ng> and it should be c:\program files\zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 14:38:44] <mf2ng>
[05-Sep-2008 14:40:26] <mf2ng> and by btw, it would be bad open sourve business to make an product too easy to use and maintain
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:08] <mf2ng> *source*.. damn these eyeglasses doesn't even help, maybe it's because my lower IQ
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:16] <mf2ng> ARGH, *OF*
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:29] <mf2ng> definetly retarded
[05-Sep-2008 14:41:58] <fuzz_> humm.. has something changed with regards to login/session in 2.2? before i could do a wget http://admin:passwd@zenoss.mydomain.com/zport/dmd/ZenEventManager/manage_addEventpasswd@zenoss.mydomain.com/zport/dmd/ZenEventManager/manage_addEvent?...... successfully, but now i get a 302 to login - even though i can login with that username/passwd manually via the login page... any ideas anyone?
[05-Sep-2008 14:42:09] <adytum-bot> fuzz_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[05-Sep-2008 15:34:13] <CamargoBP> Good morning to you all. I've been reading the Admin guide to figure out how to get the links between sites. I have 3 routers being monitored (10.4.0.1,10.8.0.1,10.3.0.1) LA, Chicago, Head Quarters. Right now they show dots on google maps, how do I get the line drawn between them so that if a link goes down it will change color?
[05-Sep-2008 15:35:55] <CamargoBP> I also just ordered Zenoss Core Network and System Monitoring by Michael Badger -- Is this a good book?
[05-Sep-2008 15:40:38] <CamargoBP> Any ideas?
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:17] <`m3> books generally suck
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:23] <`m3> dont get updated like docs do
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:32] <`m3> re: maps
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:49] <`m3> i have a feeling that zenoss doesnt know the topology
[05-Sep-2008 15:41:58] <`m3> and thats why it doesnt draw lines
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:15] <`m3> are you allowing snmp on your routers ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:21] <CamargoBP> Yep
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:30] <CamargoBP> The modeling is working
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:46] <`m3> what collectors tho
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:50] <sploozer> hey `m3
[05-Sep-2008 15:42:59] <`m3> t3h sploozer
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:08] <sploozer> `m3: I had a script back fire on me, and it wiped out all of zenoss/bin so I installed zenoss on another fedora box and just copied over those files but I believe the soft link I have on the pyton file is bad b/c I'm having all sorts of issues now, maybe I should just uinstall everything and reinstall ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:22] <`m3> jsut reinstall
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:35] <sploozer> where is the doc that tells you how to reinstall
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:36] <CamargoBP> `m3: I only have one collector. Do I need collectors at each site?
[05-Sep-2008 15:44:51] <`m3> on zenoss.com sploozer , under documentation -> admin guide
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:00] <`m3> should be the topic in here
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:07] <sploozer> i would still need to uninstall everything first right?
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:11] <`m3> CamargoBP, sorry collector plugins
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:25] <`m3> sploozer, no
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:34] <sploozer> oh
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:34] <`m3> just force install the rpm
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:43] <`m3> should put the bins back
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:51] <`m3> rpm -uvh name.rpm --force
[05-Sep-2008 15:45:59] <`m3> Uvh sorry
[05-Sep-2008 15:46:27] <sploozer> i used the .bin file though
[05-Sep-2008 15:46:59] <sploozer> hmm
[05-Sep-2008 15:47:19] <CamargoBP> `m3: Do you mean ZenPacks, or maybe I don't know what a collector plugin is?
[05-Sep-2008 15:47:39] <`m3> CamargoBP, time to hit the manual, collector plugins are important
[05-Sep-2008 15:47:55] <CamargoBP> `m3: will do I'll go take a look
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:19] <`m3> sploozer, if you dont use the machine for anything else just drop the events db, rm -fr /opt/zenoss ( or where yours is )
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:23] <`m3> et voila
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:54] <sploozer> then reinstall
[05-Sep-2008 15:48:56] <sploozer> i see
[05-Sep-2008 15:49:47] <`m3> you using some strange OS ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:49:55] <sploozer> nah, Fedora
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:03] <`m3> so just rpm yourself
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:11] <`m3> why make life hard
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:15] <sploozer> yea
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:20] <sploozer> i'll force install the rpm
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:41] <`m3> mixing bin and rpm isnt good
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:48] <`m3> i got no idea where bin installs
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:57] <sploozer> /usr/local/zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 15:50:57] <`m3> it might work but its not a good practice
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:01] <sploozer> but there maybe other place
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:04] <`m3> yeh mines all /opt/zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:11] <sploozer> where does it install mysql ?
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:20] <sploozer> i'm trying to start mysql
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:28] <sploozer> so I can below away the db
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:31] <sploozer> blow*
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:43] <`m3> no idea
[05-Sep-2008 15:51:46] <`m3> i dont use the bins
[05-Sep-2008 15:52:38] <`m3> i am gonna make some help pages for this stuff
[05-Sep-2008 15:53:17] <`m3> its useless to keep talking about how to get it installed
there are so many other problems with actually using it [05-Sep-2008 15:53:33] <`m3> i am tempted to get nagios v3 running side by side
[05-Sep-2008 15:53:55] <`m3> zenoss is starting to get on my nerves , it requires constant fixing up
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:18] <sploozer> i found it
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:30] <sploozer> LOL
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:33] <sploozer> interesting
[05-Sep-2008 15:54:43] <sploozer> nagios requires you to write a shit load of scripts though
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:00] <`m3> i have a 4 year old nagios v1.2 install
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:08] <`m3> uptime ~days
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:14] <`m3> 500 days
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:27] <`m3> my zenoss needs restarting twice a day
[05-Sep-2008 15:55:50] <`m3> zenoss doesnt do what i want out of the box
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:03] <`m3> there still crap loads of scripting to do for it ( for my uses )
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:13] <`m3> and pretty much all needs to be in python
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:37] <`m3> nagios is perl , its mostly already done
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:49] <`m3> there are 1000's of nagios plugins
[05-Sep-2008 15:56:55] <`m3> and it seems just less complicated
[05-Sep-2008 15:57:09] <`m3> BUT not as web2.0 and pretty , and "kool" as zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 15:57:24] <`m3> zenoss is impressive. its just (IMHO) very flaky
[05-Sep-2008 15:57:43] <`m3> nothing about it has been smooth to me, upgrades etc , all need lots of fixing up
[05-Sep-2008 15:59:07] <`m3> sorry zenoss workers, but thats how it feels
[05-Sep-2008 16:00:09] <CamargoBP> I agree the only reason I am trying to install zenoss is because it is sexy. To be completely honest Nagios does everything needed.
[05-Sep-2008 16:00:49] <`m3> well after 4-5 months and litterally 100s hours working at it , i am beginning to wonder
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:02] <`m3> but i am kinda locked in, and it needs to work period
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:18] <`m3> but as i said i think i might run nagios side by side for comparison
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:45] <sploozer> alright i blew out the events dbase and blew out the zenoss dir gonna reboot and reinstall hopefully that works
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:54] <sploozer> probably install the rpm instead this time
[05-Sep-2008 16:01:56] <`m3> sploozer, reboot not needed
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:01] <sploozer> oh
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:03] <sploozer> alright
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:07] <`m3> unless you change your kernel, you never ever need to reboot
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:18] <`m3> restart services, daeoms, processes
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:53] <sploozer> rpm -Uvh zenoss-stack-2.2.3.i386.rpm
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:56] <`m3> sploozer, make sure theres nothing running ( zenoss likes to hang around even when stopped )
[05-Sep-2008 16:02:56] <sploozer> here we go
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:02] <`m3> ps -ef | grep zenoss
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:06] <sploozer> yea
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:16] <sploozer> shit
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:26] <sploozer> looks like we got some lingering shit
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:45] <`m3> secondi
[05-Sep-2008 16:03:48] <sploozer> i have to pkill all this garbage
[05-Sep-2008 16:04:17] <sploozer> or kill -9
[05-Sep-2008 16:04:20] <CamargoBP> `m3: I have process, mem, disk, cpu and io plugins.
[05-Sep-2008 16:04:47] <`m3> sploozer, ps -ef | grep zenoss | awk {' print $1 '}
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:06] <sploozer> yea so?
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:28] <sploozer> yea zenoss is still alive
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:29] <sploozer> haha
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:33] <`m3> CamargoBP, my advice , if your monitoring cisco router use the cisco zenpack
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:55] <`m3> pastebin the output of ps -ef|grep zenoss| grep -v grep
[05-Sep-2008 16:05:56] <CamargoBP> They are Juniper
[05-Sep-2008 16:06:09] <`m3> see if you can find a juniper zenpack then
[05-Sep-2008 16:06:30] <sploozer> so your saying i shouldnt kill -9 it all?
[05-Sep-2008 16:07:31] <`m3> i want to see what processes are there sploozer
[05-Sep-2008 16:07:44] <`m3> then i can tell you ..
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:40] <sploozer> ok
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:49] <sploozer> pastebin?
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:50] <sploozer> link
[05-Sep-2008 16:08:56] <sploozer> lets see topic...
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:01] <daMaestro> sploozer, fpaste.org
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:03] <sploozer> k
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:15] <daMaestro> soooo
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:32] <daMaestro> anyone have a way to tell alerts that they need to trigger twice before sending alerts?
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:52] <`m3> daMaestro, yeh i am kind of wondering the same
[05-Sep-2008 16:09:56] <`m3> i thought of one way
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:04] <daMaestro> or is that what the "delay" option is?
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:30] <sploozer> http://fpaste.org/paste/5760
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #5760 (at fpaste.org)
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:42] <`m3> use a transform to lower it to debug on the first time ( count =1 ) and a different priority for count>1
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:50] <`m3> to daMaestro
[05-Sep-2008 16:10:51] <`m3>
[05-Sep-2008 16:11:51] <`m3> so sploozer take each pid ( the number in the 2nd column ) and do a kill -9 number
[05-Sep-2008 16:11:58] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:11:59] <`m3> dont do it for mysql etc tho
[05-Sep-2008 16:12:31] <`m3> lol what ? you didnt think i thought you were that dumb ? then how come your asking ??
[05-Sep-2008 16:13:06] <sploozer> haha
[05-Sep-2008 16:13:19] <sploozer> oh come on, this is an excellent resource
[05-Sep-2008 16:13:37] <CamargoBP> So I ran "easy_install Zenoss-Plugins" and well now zenoss is all screwed up
[05-Sep-2008 16:14:59] <CamargoBP> Does this document not say to run that command? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/zenoss-plugins/
[05-Sep-2008 16:15:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Plugins - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-Sep-2008 16:15:15] <sploozer> k installing
[05-Sep-2008 16:18:40] <sploozer> when you install using the rpm what password does it use to login to mysql since it doenst prompt you.....looks like i get this...http://fpaste.org/paste/5761
[05-Sep-2008 16:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #5761 (at fpaste.org)
[05-Sep-2008 16:19:20] <`m3> you know the password ?
[05-Sep-2008 16:20:06] <sploozer> looks like its using zenoss, i'll have to change that
[05-Sep-2008 16:20:30] <daMaestro> `m3, hmm
[05-Sep-2008 16:20:41] <daMaestro> `m3, i'm going to go read the alerting logic
[05-Sep-2008 16:21:01] <sploozer> doesnt look like it kicked off mysql
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:00] <`m3> sploozer, it wants an empty root password
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:19] <`m3> daMaestro, its a crappy solution
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:22] <sploozer> i already changed it....its a socket issue
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:23] <sploozer> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/usr/local/zenoss/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:26] <`m3> it should be in as a design feature
[05-Sep-2008 16:22:42] <sploozer> i need to kick off the mysqld
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:20] <sploozer> didnt have this issue when I ran the .bin
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:21] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:39] <`m3> you are trying to use a complex system without learning it
[05-Sep-2008 16:23:46] <`m3> and failing gloriously
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:18] <`m3> take a little time to learn about mysql, zenoss ,snmp
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:25] <`m3> and its really not so hard at all.
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:34] <sploozer> i know mysql pretty well
[05-Sep-2008 16:24:40] <`m3> i can tell
[05-Sep-2008 16:25:00] <sploozer> by default it allowed me to run mysqld as root prior
[05-Sep-2008 16:25:19] <sploozer> i did not have to give the grant all command
[05-Sep-2008 16:25:43] <`m3> you dont use yum to manage software ?
[05-Sep-2008 16:26:07] <`m3> if i install mysql from fedora using yum it gets setup properly
[05-Sep-2008 16:26:39] <sploozer> yea I use yum, but mysql was not install previously zenoss packaged it and installed
[05-Sep-2008 16:26:42] <sploozer> make sense?
[05-Sep-2008 16:27:23] <sploozer> i'll just install mysql outside of zenoss and yes it gets setup fine, i saw all the dependencies were packaged so I figured i'd give it a shot
[05-Sep-2008 16:27:27] <sploozer> i was skeptical
[05-Sep-2008 16:27:48] <`m3> it pays to be
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:04] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:09] <`m3> zenoss "stack" as people call it installs it all
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:26] <`m3> the zenoss rpms expect that mysql has no root pass set
[05-Sep-2008 16:28:40] <`m3> and it sets up the zenoss user as root
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:39] <sploozer> well
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:40] <sploozer> ha
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:44] <sploozer> thats kinda funny
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:53] <sploozer> poor desigin
[05-Sep-2008 16:30:59] <`m3> i mean it goes in as root and creates the zenoss user etc
[05-Sep-2008 16:31:31] <`m3> zenoss gets on my nerves too. its very hands on and requires much messing about with
[05-Sep-2008 16:32:08] <sploozer> `m3: i do appreciate your help though, a human resource always beats everything else
[05-Sep-2008 16:32:48] <`m3> want my paypal ? lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:32:52] <`m3> i am poor
[05-Sep-2008 16:33:13] <`m3> and a resource sounds like a job
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:00] <sploozer> weird that you say tha tabout the root password when the bin file asks what your want the root password to be
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:00] <sploozer> lol
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:13] <sploozer> i'll be back later
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:15] <sploozer> thanks
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:15] <`m3> i said rpms
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:27] <sploozer> yea i know
[05-Sep-2008 16:34:48] <sploozer> i'llbe back
[05-Sep-2008 17:11:19] <CamargoBP> How do I get rid of the annoying: network 'default' not in topology
[05-Sep-2008 17:40:43] <telexicon> i dont think ive ever found an answer to that
[05-Sep-2008 17:40:48] <telexicon> theres a bunch of stuff like tha
[05-Sep-2008 17:40:50] <telexicon> that*
[05-Sep-2008 18:02:36] <`m3> CamargoBP, thats the router not giving zenoss the default routes
[05-Sep-2008 18:02:46] <`m3> it cant work out the topology of the network
[05-Sep-2008 18:03:34] <`m3> make sure you have the collector plugins something like snmp default route plugin
[05-Sep-2008 18:03:48] <CamargoBP> Hmm
[05-Sep-2008 18:03:54] <`m3> i cant see my zenoss box from here so iam remembering from memory, badly
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:05] <`m3> i have the same issue
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:25] <`m3> but the network dudes need decide on things and incorporate it into templates
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:30] <`m3> not an install fix ;(
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:39] <CamargoBP> I think I do. What happened I had zenoss autodiscover my routers and it added a whole bunch of networks.
[05-Sep-2008 18:04:51] <CamargoBP> I'm adding in the MIBS for the routers to see if that will help
[05-Sep-2008 18:05:37] <`m3> so much confusion
[05-Sep-2008 18:05:53] <`m3> mibs wont help, autodiscover wont help without the right collector plugins
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:25] <CamargoBP> Hmmm. So my SNMP plugins don't work?
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:38] <`m3> they do work yes
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:41] <CamargoBP> It modeled the device
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:45] <`m3> ( probably )
[05-Sep-2008 18:06:53] <`m3> but think about the issue you have
[05-Sep-2008 18:07:05] <`m3> even better , any time you get an error message , blam it into google
[05-Sep-2008 18:07:14] <`m3> thats where i found out how to fix it too
[05-Sep-2008 18:26:49] <patLuvsMahBoneJu> in a distributed install, graph options are posted to zenrender on the collector, which generates the rrd graph and returns it to the browser, correct?
[05-Sep-2008 19:45:44] <krphop> are there any large issues that i will run into if i start changing the RRD average archive settings with zenoss?
[05-Sep-2008 19:46:15] <krphop> for example, instead of keeping 5 minute data back 2 days, 30 minute data back 12 days, 12 hour data back 300 days etc etc
[05-Sep-2008 19:46:38] <krphop> i'd like to change it to 1m data back 1 day, 5m data back 7 days, 30m data back 30 days, etc
[05-Sep-2008 21:01:56] <sn1ffer72> WTF... the zenoos VMWare appliance running centos does not even come with the RPM, Up2date or Yum commands
[05-Sep-2008 21:15:24] <nick_v> krphop: I keep 90 days of 5min averages for 160 devices (20k SNMP OIDs) and the only issue is the disk access speed and disk usage. My pef directory is around 12G in side.
[05-Sep-2008 21:16:53] <krphop> i was more wondering if it would cause issues with the UI, like i'm not sure how zenoss uses rrdtool graph to generate graphs when you select different time periods (like hourly, daily, weekly, etc)
[05-Sep-2008 21:33:37] <krphop> nick_v: what are you running for harddrives
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:03] <nick_v> You can configure the RRD settings under the collectors tab, and Zenoss has no issues with it.
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:31] <krphop> ok
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:53] <krphop> i have it set to 1m for 7 days, 5m for 30 days, 30m for 6 months, 12 hour for 5 years
[05-Sep-2008 21:44:56] <krphop> and it KILLS my hdd
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:03] <nick_v> For hard drives we use a PERC raid controller with 3 10K rpm SAS drives.
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:19] <krphop> raid5?
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:35] <nick_v> yep
[05-Sep-2008 21:45:54] <nick_v> It's actually on an VMware ESX
[05-Sep-2008 22:13:57] <CamargoBP> I've disabled the SNMP checker for a device but it still wants to check SNMP any ideas?
[05-Sep-2008 22:33:29] <nemo_> zproperties snmpignore true
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[08-Sep-2008 01:27:16] <CamargoBP_> Good evening. I'm guessing no one is on tonight?
[08-Sep-2008 01:28:31] <CamargoBP_> Well I guess I'm logged in at work too. That's why I have an _ after my name.
[08-Sep-2008 01:57:45] <CamargoBP_> So I have followed the tutorial on pages 46 & 46 of the Zenoss Admin guide and I can't get the line drawn between devices. What's up?
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[08-Sep-2008 09:30:29] <cocolo> mates, I have installed snmp on Centos5 test to get discovered by zenoss, but zenoss doesn't show any info after "Networks | Discover devices"
[08-Sep-2008 09:30:52] <cocolo> ... yes, firewall off
[08-Sep-2008 09:34:55] <nemo_> have you tried to snmpwalk a device from the same machine ?
[08-Sep-2008 10:41:18] <cocolo> after a `snmpwalk -Os -c public -v Centostest system` from the zenoss server, I got this "sysDescr.0 = STRING: Linux Centostest 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5xen", but no luck on zenoss info after the discovery
[08-Sep-2008 11:29:11] <nemo_> morning
[08-Sep-2008 14:15:32] <nemo_> made my first zenpack ;0
[08-Sep-2008 14:48:55] <imcdona> Why do regular expressions sometimes turn RED when I am working on mapping events?
[08-Sep-2008 14:52:16] <imcdona> NM found it: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/001409.html It will turn red if it does not match what is in the example section
[08-Sep-2008 14:58:09] <nemo_> yup
[08-Sep-2008 17:25:18] <CamargoBP> Okay! So I have changed the zProperies to several servers and have disabled the SNMP checking, however I still get events saying that the SNMP agent is down. Yes I have removed all the zenoss.snmp.* collectorPlugins. Any ideas?
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:12] <CamargoBP> I am also trying to get the SSH keys to work. I have logged in as the zenoss user and am able to do an ssh root@* without any passwords.
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:27] <`m3> zenoss@ works better
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:35] <`m3> being as its zenoss doing it
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:41] <CamargoBP> I thought it needed to be root?
[08-Sep-2008 17:27:54] <`m3> zenoss can su to root is my understanding
[08-Sep-2008 17:28:13] <CamargoBP> Interesting.
[08-Sep-2008 17:32:31] <CamargoBP> Do you happen to know what log will log the attempt to ssh into a box?
[08-Sep-2008 17:34:31] <`m3> yes i do
[08-Sep-2008 17:35:14] <CamargoBP> Is it under /zenoss/log?
[08-Sep-2008 17:35:39] <`m3> /var/log/secure
[08-Sep-2008 17:35:59] <`m3> zenoss/log/events.log might contain something about it too
[08-Sep-2008 17:36:19] <`m3> /var/log/secure or messages are standards with linux tho
[08-Sep-2008 17:36:35] <CamargoBP> I tailed that log but it didn't have any information about ssh
[08-Sep-2008 17:36:48] <`m3> try grepping not tailing
[08-Sep-2008 17:37:00] <`m3> tail only gives you last n lines
[08-Sep-2008 17:37:29] <CamargoBP> Well I used tail -f /zenoss/log/events.log then modled the device
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:05] <`m3> fairynuff
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:28] <CamargoBP>
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:40] <`m3> i made a zenpack today
[08-Sep-2008 17:39:45] <`m3> fear !
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:15] <CamargoBP> So I looked in the /var/log/secure and found that the last attempted login was my test on the server about 2 hours ago.
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:29] <CamargoBP> You did! What does your zenpack do?
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:49] <`m3> adds a new performance template for apc pdus
[08-Sep-2008 17:40:58] <CamargoBP> Nice
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:04] <`m3> to graph the load and generate warnings at 90 / 100% used
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:28] <CamargoBP> Does it include the MIBS, I am assuming you are using SNMP
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:39] <`m3> mib mib mib
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:43] <`m3> it is mibless
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:46] <`m3>
[08-Sep-2008 17:41:59] <`m3> mibs are a total redherring , really.
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:03] <CamargoBP> I meant MIBs
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:06] <CamargoBP>
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:11] <Garnica> Hi people....
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:22] <`m3> MIBs/mib same thing
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:23] <Garnica> APC UPS ??
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:30] <`m3> pdu Garnica
[08-Sep-2008 17:42:31] <CamargoBP> I've found them useful to change the OID into real meaning for me
[08-Sep-2008 17:44:16] <CamargoBP> `m3: Zenoss is driving me insane!!! All those user testimonials saying " I was up and running in a few hours" I'm guessing they got paid lots of money to say that because I've spent hours, hours and hours....
[08-Sep-2008 17:44:17] <Garnica> I've got some mibs for APC UPS I don't know if apply the same for PDU's
[08-Sep-2008 17:45:36] <`m3> CamargoBP, your struggling with some linux, python , zope
[08-Sep-2008 17:46:09] <`m3> http://h214010.upc-h.chello.nl/graph1.png
[08-Sep-2008 17:46:16] <`m3> sexy graph wew
[08-Sep-2008 17:47:46] <`m3> CamargoBP, i feel it too, had no reason to know python before zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 17:47:56] <Garnica> I want to get a device availability using any command ( hopefully python ) ... any idea ?
[08-Sep-2008 17:48:26] <CamargoBP> You know I've run nagios since oh lets see 2004.
[08-Sep-2008 17:48:39] <`m3> plenty of zenoss / zendmd py examples on the zenoss site / forum Garnica
[08-Sep-2008 17:48:51] <CamargoBP> It just works great! Never had these types of learning curves but Zenoss is sexy to management.
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:11] <`m3> CamargoBP, i got zenoss doing much more than nagios
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:31] <`m3> nagios was a pain to add things etc
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:39] <`m3> all done by hand or add on GUI
[08-Sep-2008 17:49:48] <CamargoBP> True
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:03] <`m3> but i have my days where the amount of love zenoss needs is too much
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:11] <`m3> every day i find more shit to fix
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:21] <CamargoBP> You know I spent all weekend reading their 280 page admin guide and it didn't really help all that much.
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:30] <`m3> it does help
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:41] <`m3> you need to read it in context to problems
[08-Sep-2008 17:50:44] <`m3> read the logs etc
[08-Sep-2008 17:52:11] <`m3> most newbs dont have a clue that zenoss isnt running off apache
[08-Sep-2008 17:52:17] <`m3> its no wonder people struggle
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:08] <CamargoBP> I know its running using ZOPE and I like that fact.
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:10] <`m3> that might be a design fault of zenoss tho, maybe people dont want to keep editing stuff and reading logs
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:39] <`m3> i hate the fact you get a stack trace instead of an error msg for almost anything]
[08-Sep-2008 17:53:58] <magnachef> me too
[08-Sep-2008 17:54:31] <`m3> i mean i know its made of python and zope, but i wish i didnt have to care.
[08-Sep-2008 17:54:44] <`m3> fair enough for transforms etc
[08-Sep-2008 17:54:55] <CamargoBP> You know I tried their example on pages 45 & 46 of the admin guide and it doesn't work.
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:00] <`m3> but not reading stack traces and whatever
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:11] <`m3> whats that then CamargoBP , the subject
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:14] <CamargoBP> I like the stac traces.
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:28] <CamargoBP> Google Maps Example
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:35] <adytum-bot> http://www.december.com/html/demo/imagemap.html
[08-Sep-2008 17:55:40] <`m3> oh it works ok for me
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:13] <CamargoBP> Really it draws a line between the two sites?
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:20] <`m3> topology
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:31] <`m3> if you got errors about topology thats the problem
[08-Sep-2008 17:56:41] <CamargoBP> Hmmm let me check
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:00] <`m3> zenoss knows it can speak to device X in another network, but if it doesnt know how it got there , it wont draw it
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:03] <CamargoBP> Yep I do network 'default' not in topology
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:11] <`m3> google on solving that
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:15] <CamargoBP> Yep
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:18] <adytum-bot> http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-02-13-college-allstars_N.htm
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:36] <`m3> this bot has lost it
[08-Sep-2008 17:57:45] <CamargoBP> I think so
[08-Sep-2008 18:13:25] <sj7trunks> wow there be peeps talkin here
[08-Sep-2008 18:28:01] <roadies> none of my interfaces are showing performance statistics, what is missing
[08-Sep-2008 18:28:53] <sj7trunks> roadies are you getting perf graphs for everything else?
[08-Sep-2008 18:29:32] <roadies> sj7trunks: looking
[08-Sep-2008 18:30:09] <sj7trunks> roadies so if you drop the servers into /devices/server class it should start graphing
[08-Sep-2008 18:31:20] <roadies> sj7trunks: Perf tab on all devices doesnt show anything including a graph
[08-Sep-2008 18:31:28] <sj7trunks> yeah
[08-Sep-2008 18:32:02] <sj7trunks> try moving them to a new class instead of /devices/discovered or whatnot
[08-Sep-2008 18:35:48] <roadies> sj7trunks: all the linux routers are in /device/network/router and servers are in /device/server/linux....so I didnt move anything
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:44] <sj7trunks> canice
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:48] <sj7trunks> err
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:51] <sj7trunks> nice
[08-Sep-2008 18:37:56] <roadies> sj7trunks: ok just a silly question.... does one have to have the perf chart displaying before statistics is collected and then displayed......
[08-Sep-2008 18:38:08] <sj7trunks> did you play with any kind of templating yet?
[08-Sep-2008 18:38:16] <sj7trunks> you can bind templates to a group
[08-Sep-2008 18:38:27] <sj7trunks> actually the graphs pop up when you bind templates to a group
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:17] <roadies> have not played with templates at all, only configured device list
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:29] <sj7trunks> okay so lets try this
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:43] <sj7trunks> go to /devices/server/linux
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:51] <sj7trunks> click templates
[08-Sep-2008 18:40:58] <sj7trunks> you'll see available perf templates
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:05] <sj7trunks> to the left of that is a down click box
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:10] <sj7trunks> click on that and go bind templates
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:35] <sj7trunks> should be able to select /device/server/linux and click OK
[08-Sep-2008 18:41:51] <roadies> sj7trunks: working it
[08-Sep-2008 18:43:47] <sn1ffer72> go figure.. this "zenhub" process stopped again
[08-Sep-2008 18:43:52] <sn1ffer72> and will not restar
[08-Sep-2008 18:43:52] <sn1ffer72> t
[08-Sep-2008 18:44:13] <sn1ffer72> this is like my 4th install/configuration
[08-Sep-2008 18:44:26] <sn1ffer72> I used the Zenoss VMWare appliance
[08-Sep-2008 18:46:21] <sn1ffer72> ok.. who knows how to keep the old zenhub running?
[08-Sep-2008 18:46:54] <roadies> sj7trunks: so I clicked bind templates and select devices/services ....what next
[08-Sep-2008 18:47:28] <sj7trunks> /devices/server/Linux right?
[08-Sep-2008 18:48:20] <roadies> I believe so
[08-Sep-2008 18:49:12] <roadies> that is I did /devices/servers/linux then the pull down to get the bind template pop, the select /devices/servers in the popup
[08-Sep-2008 18:50:33] <sj7trunks> what other templates were there to select
[08-Sep-2008 18:50:42] <sj7trunks> i was talkig about the /devices/servers/linux template within that group
[08-Sep-2008 18:51:52] <CamargoBP> Well I happen to be using Juniper SSG5 which Zenoss has problems mapping the topology with. http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3276
[08-Sep-2008 18:52:11] <CamargoBP> Great!
[08-Sep-2008 18:54:02] <roadies> I didn't see a template specific to linux just 2 for ether, 1 for Ip, 1 for server, 1 for win, and OS
[08-Sep-2008 18:55:31] <sj7trunks> hrmm thats not good
[08-Sep-2008 18:57:02] <sj7trunks> the graphs i use are from that template
[08-Sep-2008 18:58:24] <roadies> sj7trunks: I need check out here, so let me go off and look into the template thing and all I did was install zenoss and started device list configuring things so I guess more has to be turned on
[08-Sep-2008 18:58:33] <sj7trunks> cool
[08-Sep-2008 19:39:20] <sj7trunks> so i have a server that isn't inheriting the templates i set for the group... is there a way to reset the server to inherit templates again?
[08-Sep-2008 19:45:11] <sn1ffer72> anyone on "zenhub"?
[08-Sep-2008 19:46:20] <`m3> sn1ffer72, did you google on the last bit of the stack trace in zenhub log ?
[08-Sep-2008 19:47:20] <sn1ffer72> I would but the log file is empty
[08-Sep-2008 19:47:26] <sn1ffer72> all other daemons are running fine
[08-Sep-2008 19:52:33] <sj7trunks> yay fixed my issue
[08-Sep-2008 19:56:24] <sn1ffer72> I just restarted all services from the CLI
[08-Sep-2008 19:56:28] <sn1ffer72> still no log for zenhub
[08-Sep-2008 19:56:59] <sn1ffer72> i did read somewhere that someone said to delete the zenhub-1.zec
[08-Sep-2008 19:57:04] <sn1ffer72> and then restart everything
[08-Sep-2008 19:57:08] <sn1ffer72> anyone else heard that?
[08-Sep-2008 19:59:37] <sj7trunks> you can always try that
[08-Sep-2008 19:59:46] <sj7trunks> i basically just move the file to another directory and restart
[08-Sep-2008 20:06:31] <Garnica> sn1ffer72: have you tried to run zenhub in debbug mode ? 'zenhub run start'
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> [zenoss@marma-xlfariaa var]$ zenhub run start
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 417, in ?
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> z = ZenHub()
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:05] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 185, in __init__
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:06] <sn1ffer72> ZCmdBase.__init__(self)
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:08] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/ZCmdBase.py", line 55, in __init__
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:10] <sn1ffer72> self.zeoConnect()
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:12] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 233, in zeoConnect
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:14] <sn1ffer72> cache_size=self.options.pcachesize*1024*1024)
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:16] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/marc/conary/zenoss-project/builds/zope2/_ROOT_/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 314, in __init__
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:19] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/marc/conary/zenoss-project/builds/zope2/_ROOT_/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 112, in open
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:19] <`m3> pastebin!!
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:22] <sn1ffer72> File "/home/marc/conary/zenoss-project/builds/zope2/_ROOT_/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 833, in scan
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:25] <sn1ffer72> AssertionError
[08-Sep-2008 20:07:36] <sn1ffer72> that was a paste for sure
[08-Sep-2008 20:08:21] <sn1ffer72> ok.. since that debug start did not work
[08-Sep-2008 20:08:33] <sn1ffer72> I did move that zenhub-1.zec file to /tmp
[08-Sep-2008 20:08:42] <sn1ffer72> then ran zenhub start and it started
[08-Sep-2008 20:21:47] <CamargoBP> `m3: You know I have googled network 'default' not in topology why can't I find anything to fix it?
[08-Sep-2008 20:23:50] <`m3> lol
[08-Sep-2008 20:23:51] <`m3> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=485&sid=ad3ffd86738d9a0ffa6bae75ee15f139
[08-Sep-2008 20:24:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - what does this mean ?network ' not in topology (at community.zenoss.com)
[08-Sep-2008 20:24:11] <`m3> first hit in google for not in topology +zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 20:25:28] <CamargoBP> I've read that. I get it but. Here is the issue. My zenoss is on 10.3.1.x and the gateway is 10.3.0.x I've looked at the routes under the OS tab. I think everything looks alright
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:19] <`m3> if you got that stuff in your logs
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:22] <CamargoBP> Maybe a second pair of eyes would help: http://pastebin.com/m4745d7ae
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:26] <`m3> it can mean only one thing
[08-Sep-2008 20:31:29] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Sep-2008 20:32:31] <CamargoBP> New one: http://pastebin.com/m5be6270f
[08-Sep-2008 20:32:38] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-Sep-2008 20:33:35] <CamargoBP> `m3: This was all auto discovered.
[08-Sep-2008 20:34:50] <`m3> CamargoBP, kinda hard to say. zenoss is snmp collecting from your router
[08-Sep-2008 20:34:58] <`m3> and you still have this topology issue
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:05] <CamargoBP> Yep
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:07] <CamargoBP> SNMP
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:35] <CamargoBP> It collects a whole lot of data. all 17 interfaces
[08-Sep-2008 20:35:59] <CamargoBP> but only provides 2 routes because only 2 interfaces are used
[08-Sep-2008 20:37:07] <CamargoBP> You wouldn't mind pasting a route that works that you have setup (masking anything important of course) I'd like to figure out if I can add a manual route and maybe that will work?
[08-Sep-2008 20:37:28] <CamargoBP> You don't have too of course.
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:02] <`m3> i have this problem the same as you
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:13] <`m3> but i cant have snmp access yet to the routers
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:14] <CamargoBP> Yeah?
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:26] <`m3> yup
[08-Sep-2008 20:39:49] <CamargoBP> So I think this is what is causing the "default' not in topology
[08-Sep-2008 20:41:01] <CamargoBP> Wait a minute. I might have it fixed.
[08-Sep-2008 20:47:58] <`m3> suspense is killing me ...
[08-Sep-2008 20:48:17] <CamargoBP> Wait for it, I'm still testing.
[08-Sep-2008 20:52:04] <CamargoBP> Eh never mind
[08-Sep-2008 20:55:37] <`m3> well if snmp doesnt fix it for me, i know who to come to ..
[08-Sep-2008 20:55:55] <`m3> you will be the master of the not in topology error
[08-Sep-2008 20:56:11] <`m3> deleting the devices and re-adding them might work
[08-Sep-2008 20:56:12] <CamargoBP> You are hoping
[08-Sep-2008 20:57:08] <`m3> a good enough way to reset the topology, if you dont mind losing the perf data and history
[08-Sep-2008 20:57:34] <CamargoBP> I'm trying something new (again)
[08-Sep-2008 21:02:19] <CamargoBP> Nice now I am getting Event: '10.3.1.40 sendto error Host Zenoss and zenoss.xx.com are both using ip 10.3.1.40'
[08-Sep-2008 21:03:57] <`m3> ah yes
[08-Sep-2008 21:04:11] <`m3> ive seen that, true tho in my case
[08-Sep-2008 21:04:43] <`m3> got a feeling if you did a new install it wont allow such dupes
[08-Sep-2008 21:05:05] <`m3> did you upgrade?
[08-Sep-2008 21:05:36] <CamargoBP> Nope brand new RPM install last week
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:01] <CamargoBP> Now mu google map locations is throwing a Zenoss Error
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:13] <CamargoBP> KeyError: '10.8.0.1'
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:49] <CamargoBP> I've never been able to get rid of a KeyError before. Ahhh!
[08-Sep-2008 21:06:58] <CamargoBP> I've had to re-install
[08-Sep-2008 21:07:04] <`m3> extrme
[08-Sep-2008 21:08:43] <`m3> you could just delete cache files and restart zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:08:54] <`m3> not in that order but ..
[08-Sep-2008 21:09:34] <CamargoBP> yeah I've tried that.
[08-Sep-2008 21:09:53] <CamargoBP> I think I may know what is causing it.
[08-Sep-2008 21:12:06] <CamargoBP> Where is the cache located on the OS? I've just used the clear geocode link
[08-Sep-2008 21:12:49] <`m3> dont know what that is
[08-Sep-2008 21:13:13] <CamargoBP> What did you mean by delete cache files?
[08-Sep-2008 21:13:23] <CamargoBP> I don't know where they are.
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:19] <`m3> .zec files
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:37] <CamargoBP> Hmmm... I'll give it a go.
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:41] <`m3> zenoss stop && find /opt/zenoss -iregex .*zec$ | xargs rm -f ; zenoss start
[08-Sep-2008 21:14:47] <`m3> something along those lines
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:06] <CamargoBP> I see you have done this before
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:40] <`m3> i run this twice a day
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:47] <CamargoBP> do you run that as root or zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:50] <`m3> well not exactley the same
[08-Sep-2008 21:15:54] <`m3> always as zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:16:11] <`m3> i also kill of processes that didnt die when zenoss stopped
[08-Sep-2008 21:20:35] <CamargoBP> Is there a way to re model the whole network or wipe that cache?
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:08] <`m3> you could just delete all devices , then the network/s
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:14] <`m3> and re-discover them
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:29] <`m3> try a c class first maybe
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:33] <CamargoBP> Yeah the problem lies with they are /16 and /14 networks
[08-Sep-2008 21:21:48] <CamargoBP> Yep
[08-Sep-2008 21:24:55] <CamargoBP> I've removed all my networks
[08-Sep-2008 21:25:10] <CamargoBP> now I get a KeyError: '192.168.122.0'
[08-Sep-2008 21:26:49] <`m3> does it carry on tho ?
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:23] <CamargoBP> Wow!
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:28] <CamargoBP> Just WOW!
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:35] <CamargoBP> I would have never figured out this one
[08-Sep-2008 21:29:43] <CamargoBP> Bookmarking
[08-Sep-2008 21:30:21] <CamargoBP> read what domint had to say: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24262
[08-Sep-2008 21:30:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Dashboard not working after upgrade to 2.2.3 (at community.zenoss.com)
[08-Sep-2008 21:32:10] <`m3> ive done that before, but then i found lack of snmp was not solving my topology
[08-Sep-2008 21:32:50] <CamargoBP> Hmmm...
[08-Sep-2008 21:33:14] <CamargoBP> I'm just glad I didn't have to re-install again!
[08-Sep-2008 21:36:25] <CamargoBP> Wahooooo! Locations with lines are working!
[08-Sep-2008 21:36:35] <CamargoBP> Nice!
[08-Sep-2008 21:37:43] * `m3 claps
[08-Sep-2008 21:38:29] <CamargoBP> Now to see if I can get VPN over WAN to show a link between sites.
[08-Sep-2008 21:40:15] <CamargoBP> So here is what I did. Deleted all networks. Disabled auto discovery. Modeled my routers (3 of them) Then modeled some of my servers. Viola magic. Some devices were modeled with SNMP and some with SSH logins (not the key logins that's my next goal after VPN)
[08-Sep-2008 21:41:05] <pudland_> i cant login in to web gui. please help
[08-Sep-2008 21:41:57] <CamargoBP> admin zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:42:17] <CamargoBP> pudland_: Did you try username admin and password zenoss
[08-Sep-2008 21:42:55] <pudland_> just did and thanks. ubuntuguide didnt say that:-(. thanks, im in!!
[08-Sep-2008 21:43:28] <pudland_> this chat is going "auto-join on connect"
[08-Sep-2008 21:47:32] <`m3> this is your karma CamargoBP
[08-Sep-2008 21:47:59] <CamargoBP>
[08-Sep-2008 22:00:30] <Omar> a
[08-Sep-2008 22:34:13] <CamargoBP> Fake VPN was a cinch.
[08-Sep-2008 22:34:19] <CamargoBP> Now on to ssh keys
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[09-Sep-2008 00:12:43] <sploozer> `m3: wut up
[09-Sep-2008 00:12:59] <sploozer> anyone here using a readynas 1100?
[09-Sep-2008 00:52:09] <churchmedic> hello -
[09-Sep-2008 00:53:06] <churchmedic> im hoping someone can help direct me perhaps to a location for documentation where I can do a network discovery like a ping sweep
[09-Sep-2008 00:53:09] <churchmedic> on a new install
[09-Sep-2008 03:03:15] <imcdona> does anyone review tickets? http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3666 it's been sitting for 9 days
[09-Sep-2008 03:07:51] <imcdona> anyone view this channel for that matter?
[09-Sep-2008 04:14:12] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - netaddr Python Library - 27 Aug, 10:03PM
[09-Sep-2008 04:14:13] <adytum-bot> http://www.advogato.org/person/oubiwann/diary.html?start=209
[09-Sep-2008 06:50:50] <]V[> Morning all
[09-Sep-2008 06:51:51] <]V[> Just wondering (yes i tried google beforehand) can i have Zenoss alerts via RSS or UDP or even just in a plain log file ? it seems i can only select mail or page in the alert editor
[09-Sep-2008 06:53:48] <]V[> imcdona: yes i do but it seems an awfully idle channel ;-) had some help though. just hang tough ;-)
[09-Sep-2008 06:59:42] <imcdona> have zenoss send mail to an local linux account....then use procmail to write it to a log file....
[09-Sep-2008 06:59:49] <imcdona> its a crude hack but it would work.....
[09-Sep-2008 07:00:11] <]V[> nice, never thought of that
[09-Sep-2008 07:00:13] <]V[> Thanks
[09-Sep-2008 07:00:21] <imcdona> better yet...just have it go to a local linux account and cat the mail file cat /var/spool/mail/user
[09-Sep-2008 07:37:21] <MrTux> somebody here from the zenoss team? is there a place to submit feature requests?
[09-Sep-2008 07:43:27] <]V[> thanks a lot imcdona , that way i can tail -f the file to my todup.py plugin. hopefully i will get nice notifications in my chat ;-)
[09-Sep-2008 07:43:37] <]V[> toudp.py even
[09-Sep-2008 08:34:54] <imcdona> I am connected via IPV6 whoo hoo!
[09-Sep-2008 14:06:14] <imcdona> kk
[09-Sep-2008 14:43:29] <CamargoBP> Good morning all! Has anyone ever setup the SSH keys? I've have but while tailing the /var/log/secure while modeling the device and there is no attempted login. Any clue to as why?
[09-Sep-2008 14:47:37] <nemo_> are you using the user zenoss
[09-Sep-2008 14:47:46] <CamargoBP> yes
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:09] <sj7trunks> heh
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:18] <sj7trunks> camargoBP any success?
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:30] <CamargoBP> With ssh keys
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:31] <CamargoBP> nope
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:57] <CamargoBP> I've found that ssh-agent might be the problem. It's not starting up when zenoss runs the command
[09-Sep-2008 16:55:59] <sj7trunks> go to the machine and click the drop down box next to status and look for zproperties
[09-Sep-2008 16:56:17] <CamargoBP> K
[09-Sep-2008 16:56:40] <CamargoBP> I'm there
[09-Sep-2008 16:57:21] <sj7trunks> alright so there is zCommandProtocol zCommandUsername
[09-Sep-2008 16:57:29] <sj7trunks> zCommandPassword
[09-Sep-2008 16:57:40] <sj7trunks> all setup correctly?
[09-Sep-2008 16:58:59] <CamargoBP> ssh, root, and no password is needed since I am using zKeyPath = ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[09-Sep-2008 16:59:15] <sj7trunks> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1/ch09s13.html
[09-Sep-2008 16:59:25] <sj7trunks> then click edit on zCollectorPlugins
[09-Sep-2008 16:59:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:08] <CamargoBP> I have that all setup correctly
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:11] <`m3> CamargoBP, i told you , user zenoss not root
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:30] <CamargoBP> `m3: It doesn't work either way
[09-Sep-2008 17:00:53] <CamargoBP> It doesn't even try to establish the connection
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:01] <`m3> well only trying to help, my zcommands work ok
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:21] <CamargoBP> without
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:25] <`m3> at least if zenoss is setup right you can investigate other options
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:33] <CamargoBP> without zCommandPassword?
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:38] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP try to use it without the rsa/dsa key
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:44] <`m3> no. i am not even sure that works
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:47] <`m3> i am using the passwords
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:52] <`m3> does it work with a password ?
[09-Sep-2008 17:01:58] <CamargoBP> It works if I type in the password and don't use the rsa/dsa key
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:13] <sj7trunks> okay so thats progress
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:16] <`m3> i think its not fully implemented maybe
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:17] <CamargoBP> but management wants me to use the rsa/dsa key
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:23] <sj7trunks> thats fine
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:31] <sj7trunks> have you tried a blank password rsa/dsa key?
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:43] <CamargoBP> Nope haven't tried that
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:52] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP this is all part of troubleshooting, doesn't mean it'll be the production release;)
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:53] <CamargoBP> let me generate one now
[09-Sep-2008 17:02:59] <`m3> CamargoBP, try a full path to id_rsa
[09-Sep-2008 17:04:50] <CamargoBP> tried full path. I get a trackback error
[09-Sep-2008 17:05:19] <`m3> whats in the stack trace, at the end
[09-Sep-2008 17:06:12] <CamargoBP> http://pastebin.com/m55a7ba3b
[09-Sep-2008 17:06:19] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[09-Sep-2008 17:07:41] <`m3> who knows, you know my feelings on stack traces vs error messages
[09-Sep-2008 17:08:19] <`m3> it kind hints that it almost worked tho ... line 195 in dataRecieved
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:08] <CamargoBP> But the other end, the server I am trying to connect to, logs don't show an attempted connection.
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:28] <`m3> theres not much easy advice to offer
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:39] <`m3> i know what i would do if i was there in your network
[09-Sep-2008 17:09:59] <`m3> but .... basic application trouble shooting is a big subject
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:12] <`m3> i am not convinced its a zenoss issue
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:36] <CamargoBP> I'm sure its not
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:40] <sj7trunks> i agree with m3;)
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:45] <`m3> i take it you can ssh out to the client machine from your zenoss box ( as zenoss -> zenoss@client )
[09-Sep-2008 17:10:59] <CamargoBP> I think it is : ssh-agent /bin/bash
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:05] <CamargoBP> Not being loaded
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:21] <`m3> ssh agent is for x apps isnt it ?
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:25] <CamargoBP> as long as I run this command before: ssh-agent /bin/bash
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:40] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP... we'll use it with blank password first
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:49] <CamargoBP> ssh-agent is for keys
[09-Sep-2008 17:11:50] <sj7trunks> i'm sure zenoss doesn't source any bashrc scripts
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:05] <`m3> CamargoBP, sorry i am think ssh ask pass
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:18] <`m3> should be running ssh agent everytime !
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:24] <`m3> shouldnt**
[09-Sep-2008 17:12:45] <CamargoBP> onlyonce. It's a wrapper. I'm going to try and wrap Zenoss in it.
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:04] <`m3> i repeat my question from before
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:09] <`m3> i take it you can ssh out to the client machine from your zenoss box ( as zenoss -> zenoss@client )
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:15] <`m3> passwordless
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:16] <CamargoBP> yep
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:19] <CamargoBP> yep
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:37] <`m3> ok, and with a password it works ok
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:52] <`m3> id read the code and check what your expecting actually works
[09-Sep-2008 17:13:54] <CamargoBP> yep
[09-Sep-2008 17:14:20] <`m3> i might have missed it, but it looks like a fairly new zproperty
[09-Sep-2008 17:14:50] <`m3> im gonna test this stuff out with keys
[09-Sep-2008 17:14:52] <CamargoBP> I didn't know that.
[09-Sep-2008 17:16:41] <sj7trunks> CamargoBP http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossannouncement.2007-10-04.4287104324
[09-Sep-2008 17:16:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Core 2.1 Beta 2.0.92 Available for Download - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Sep-2008 17:16:59] <sj7trunks> you set your passphrase in the zcommandpassword box
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:17] <CamargoBP> No way!
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:26] <sj7trunks> yes way
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:41] <CamargoBP> That's what were trying to get away from since the zope database stores everything in clear text
[09-Sep-2008 17:17:46] <CamargoBP> Argh!
[09-Sep-2008 17:18:53] <`m3> that does suck
[09-Sep-2008 17:28:34] <CamargoBP> Well I used an empty password
[09-Sep-2008 17:28:39] <CamargoBP> It worked
[09-Sep-2008 17:29:14] <`m3> so what changed from working to non working?
[09-Sep-2008 17:29:29] <`m3> or vica versa
[09-Sep-2008 17:30:01] <sj7trunks> `m3 he's trying to make it work with passphrases stored in ssh-agent rather than zenoss
[09-Sep-2008 17:30:14] <sj7trunks> "trying to step outside the scope of the programming"
[09-Sep-2008 17:30:42] <`m3> well its one thing to know your doing it
[09-Sep-2008 17:31:57] <CamargoBP> Well I regenerated a key without a password and then uploaded the .pub key to the remote server copied it into the authorized_keys and then it worked
[09-Sep-2008 17:32:01] <CamargoBP> That's all I changed
[09-Sep-2008 17:58:13] <`m3> ok makes sense
[09-Sep-2008 18:16:29] <sj7trunks> is there a way to apply an osprocesses group to a class rather than a server
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[09-Sep-2008 18:53:19] <sj7trunks> weird that i'm looking for something thats like the hybrid of osprocesses and templating
[09-Sep-2008 18:55:23] <Bam22e> Hi. Anyone willing the tell me a few things about Zenoss?
[09-Sep-2008 18:57:00] <Bam22e> I was just wondering whether it would be suitable for introducing into a Windows environment, could it find out all the computers and their software etc...
[09-Sep-2008 18:57:28] <sj7trunks> bam22e yes it supports that
[09-Sep-2008 18:58:10] <Bam22e> Uses wmi, no agents required? How about the Linux boxes, you need agents or something for them?
[09-Sep-2008 18:58:48] <Bam22e> Presumably the Zenoss would have to be installed on windows server (for best results) ?
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:02] <sj7trunks> no zenoss doesn't run on windows servers
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:11] <sj7trunks> basically you have a couple things
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:19] <Bam22e> oh
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:23] <sj7trunks> one is a ping test across an entire network to discover devices
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:28] <sj7trunks> the next is snmp collection
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:39] <Bam22e> ahh so enabling snmp agent then
[09-Sep-2008 18:59:53] <sj7trunks> so windows servers/desktops having snmp enabled would give you a lot of stats about each server
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:17] <sj7trunks> you can actually automate most of this stuff if you like
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:21] <sj7trunks> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8739#8739
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:24] <sj7trunks> theres a page
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:29] <Bam22e> sounds pretty good. how about linux servers? you can get installed applications lists?
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:40] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How do I monitor windows? (at community.zenoss.com)
[09-Sep-2008 19:00:55] <sj7trunks> now to get even more stats for windows stuff you can do wmi plugin
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:27] <sj7trunks> for linux servers it polls info from snmp as well
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:40] <sj7trunks> you can intergrate already used nagios plugins
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:50] <sj7trunks> and also do polling via ssh
[09-Sep-2008 19:01:54] <sj7trunks> but no program list sorry
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:12] <`m3> umm there is
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:18] <`m3> works on mine anyway
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:23] <Bam22e> showoff
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:27] <sj7trunks> `m3 which?
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:33] <sj7trunks> not working on my redhat installations
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:36] <`m3> snmp HRSWinstalled collector
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:54] <Bam22e> okay.. I think one could create AD policy to enable everything required automatically
[09-Sep-2008 19:02:54] <`m3> plugin
[09-Sep-2008 19:03:06] <sn1ffer72> has anyone used the httpmonitor's regex?
[09-Sep-2008 19:03:39] <sj7trunks> cool m3, thanks for setting me straight;)
[09-Sep-2008 19:03:51] <Bam22e> I think this deserves an actual testing... Zenoss might fit the need
[09-Sep-2008 19:04:44] <CamargoBP> `m3: Have you ever experienced extremely slow response times with Zenoss?
[09-Sep-2008 19:04:54] <`m3> yes
[09-Sep-2008 19:04:54] <Bam22e> thank you gentlemen for your kind answers
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:13] <CamargoBP> Is that why you restart Zenoss twice a day?
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:20] <`m3> sj7trunks, i am sure you will be able to return the favour
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:33] <`m3> CamargoBP, i find zenoss gets slow if too much stuff isnt working
[09-Sep-2008 19:05:45] <`m3> too many snmp clients timiing out etc
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:03] <`m3> its forever timing stuff out, and this adds to its slowness
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:32] <`m3> and the mysql events table getting a bit full slows down the interface
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:39] <CamargoBP> Well I think I am experiencing that.
[09-Sep-2008 19:06:51] <`m3> multiple users sucks too
[09-Sep-2008 19:07:25] <`m3> so try to keep things that always fail in /unmonitored with no plugins or templates
[09-Sep-2008 19:07:51] <`m3> that helps for bigger setups
[09-Sep-2008 19:52:41] <rbw> good day!
[09-Sep-2008 20:05:35] <CamargoBP> Do you know why some devices show up in the Device Issues (Dashboard) when there are no events associated with them?
[09-Sep-2008 20:08:27] <CamargoBP> Got it! It was events that didn't get cleared under the event console
[09-Sep-2008 20:18:03] <sn1ffer72> no takers on the HttpMonitor regex option?
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:14] <sj7trunks> sniffer72 what are you trying to do
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:47] <sn1ffer72> basically I have a url
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:52] <sn1ffer72> that on that web page
[09-Sep-2008 20:22:58] <sn1ffer72> it comes up with a status message
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:09] <sn1ffer72> such as RMDY: UP
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:18] <sn1ffer72> or RMDY: DOWN
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:31] <sj7trunks> so whats your regex
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:32] <sn1ffer72> so I wanna regex to get the status
[09-Sep-2008 20:23:55] <sn1ffer72> I believe it should be in the regex parameter.. that's really what I am trying to confirm
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:28] <sn1ffer72> is that if I put it in that local copy of the template's regex section will it actually parse the url page response?
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:39] <sj7trunks> you know you can wget it
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:43] <sj7trunks> try some regex with grep
[09-Sep-2008 20:24:47] <sj7trunks> you can try both
[09-Sep-2008 20:25:05] <sn1ffer72> sorry.. I am trying to use the HttpMonitor first before I head to the CLI
[09-Sep-2008 20:27:38] <sj7trunks> hehe
[09-Sep-2008 20:27:56] <sj7trunks> well httpmonitor is a frontend interface and you can't really get results that fast
[09-Sep-2008 20:28:00] <sj7trunks> so CLI rules for that
[09-Sep-2008 20:32:56] <sn1ffer72> ok so lets talk cli
[09-Sep-2008 20:33:39] <CamargoBP> So I am trying to map an event to an eventclass but it wont move.
[09-Sep-2008 20:33:42] <sn1ffer72> do you have a 1-2-3 setup on how to perform system calls from zenoss?
[09-Sep-2008 20:33:43] <CamargoBP> Any ideas?
[09-Sep-2008 20:36:16] <THX-SWE> Does anyone know what could be wrong with ZenWin when the zenwin.log fills up with "TypeError: iteration over non-sequence" from ProcessLoop()
[09-Sep-2008 20:37:31] <CamargoBP> Does anyone know a good resource to find collector plugins?
[09-Sep-2008 20:38:05] <THX-SWE> (it's the line "for device in self.devices:" that gives the Exception) but how can i correct it?
[09-Sep-2008 20:38:56] <sn1ffer72> I think I see it here for the cli system calls
[09-Sep-2008 20:39:08] <sn1ffer72> management -> Event manager -> commands
[09-Sep-2008 20:39:57] <sn1ffer72> ah
[09-Sep-2008 20:39:57] <sn1ffer72> ok
[09-Sep-2008 20:40:19] <sn1ffer72> I also see settings -> commands
[09-Sep-2008 20:49:29] <sn1ffer72> thx
[09-Sep-2008 21:21:11] <CamargoBP> Oh boy now they want paging! Not just email alerts
[09-Sep-2008 21:21:17] <CamargoBP> Will this ever end!?
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:21] <CamargoBP> Has anyone here ever setup the pager?
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:23] <sj7trunks> why is that so bad
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:32] <sj7trunks> it means more job stability for you:)
[09-Sep-2008 21:23:52] <CamargoBP> Lol. Startup company, not much stability
[09-Sep-2008 21:24:12] <CamargoBP> Not true, were doing really well actually
[09-Sep-2008 21:34:47] <CamargoBP> That wasn't hard to setup at all
[09-Sep-2008 21:34:55] <CamargoBP> Nice!
[09-Sep-2008 21:34:58] <sj7trunks> hehe
[09-Sep-2008 21:35:19] <sj7trunks> i'm at a startup too but they're getting a sweet deal for all the things i can do for them:P
[09-Sep-2008 21:35:41] <CamargoBP> I know how that is
[09-Sep-2008 21:35:55] <CamargoBP> BRB
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[10-Sep-2008 03:24:27] <daMaestro> does anyone do layer 7 checks for http?
[10-Sep-2008 03:24:38] <daMaestro> how do you use a HTTP/1.1 request?
[10-Sep-2008 03:40:48] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/2489 blah
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[10-Sep-2008 13:25:03] <nocturn> I'm installing ZenOSS Core on Ubuntu 8.04
[10-Sep-2008 13:25:16] <nocturn> tried multiple ways (deb, source, stack)
[10-Sep-2008 13:25:26] <nocturn> but no matter, I cannot add ipservices to hosts
[10-Sep-2008 13:25:37] <nocturn> only the ones that whare autodetected are enabled
[10-Sep-2008 13:26:08] <nocturn> The add ipservice dialog shows the protocol selector (tcp/udp) and Ok grayed out, no other options are shown
[10-Sep-2008 13:27:41] <nocturn> On an older Zenoss version on Ubuntu 6.06, this worked fine...
[10-Sep-2008 14:09:24] <nocturn> Fixed, applied a 2.2.4 patch
[10-Sep-2008 14:33:10] <axel> hello, i want to make command plugin for vmstat in zenoss
[10-Sep-2008 14:33:49] <nemo__> kool
[10-Sep-2008 14:34:06] <axel> what i've done is modified file df.py in /usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/cmd/
[10-Sep-2008 14:35:05] <axel> but, in file df.py, the maptype attributes in df class types : maptype = "FilesystemMap"
[10-Sep-2008 14:36:20] <axel> is there any guidance how to fill maptype? or any string is ok? i mean, can i fill maptype like : maptype = "FooBarMap"?
[10-Sep-2008 14:44:50] <nemo__> no idea, never even looked into it, i got enough problems with what i have already
[10-Sep-2008 16:17:25] <daMaestro> any developers around?
[10-Sep-2008 16:17:38] <daMaestro> if i was to generate a patch set, should i do so against trunk?
[10-Sep-2008 16:17:56] <daMaestro> (and yes, i'll be here tomorrow and will likely have a patch set to discuss)
[10-Sep-2008 16:55:09] <Khazwerk> anyone up for helping me with WMI issues?
[10-Sep-2008 18:34:28] <PPPP> I'm looking at the examples on http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/get-a-list-of-device-names/
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[10-Sep-2008 18:34:53] <PPPP> how would I know there's an attribute called "id" from getSubDevices()?
[10-Sep-2008 19:28:57] <sn1ffer72> Can anyone make a recommendation as to what they think the best VOIP monitoring software is?
[10-Sep-2008 20:06:28] <Linux50> hello everyone.
[10-Sep-2008 20:08:47] <Linux50> I was wondering if anyone can help me with the google map network link (the green line between sites). I have been trying to figure out why my google map is showing a link between site 2 and site 3 but not between site 1 and 2 nor site 1 3. Pretty much site 1 is not linking to anybody.
[10-Sep-2008 20:10:57] <Linux50> my zPingMonitorIgnore = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyIndirect = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyLocal=false, zSnmpMonitorIgnore=false
[10-Sep-2008 20:40:45] <MrTux> Linux50: is there an interface on both sides which share an ip subnet?
[10-Sep-2008 20:41:20] <CamargoBP> Anyone know how Zenoss sends alert. once every minute? Every alert?
[10-Sep-2008 20:51:49] <CamargoBP> Zenactions seems to be taking about 60 seconds to send an email out. I wonder if there is anyway to speed that up? Anyone ever have an issue with that?
[10-Sep-2008 22:26:14] <CamargoBP> Wow not much talk today. I guess no one is having any issues with Zenoss. Nice!
[10-Sep-2008 23:04:28] <sj7trunks> hehe
[10-Sep-2008 23:04:38] <sj7trunks> well mine is more like a feature enhancement
[10-Sep-2008 23:10:16] <sj7trunks> tried to do OSProcesses but it isn't quite working the way i want it to so i might as well just use a template
[10-Sep-2008 23:36:36] <Linux50> MrTux... Are you still there?
[10-Sep-2008 23:54:44] <Linux50> Can anyone help me with my issue stated above?
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[11-Sep-2008 07:46:56] <asciii> hi
[11-Sep-2008 07:47:18] <asciii> i just installed zenoss and addded a server as device
[11-Sep-2008 07:47:40] <asciii> when i check the component status of the device..all of em are in blue
[11-Sep-2008 07:47:59] <asciii> with errors saying: rror reading value for "memBuffer" on ipaddress (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[11-Sep-2008 07:48:17] <asciii> help pls
[11-Sep-2008 12:51:52] <roadies> Why can't zenoss (2.2.3) setup a device by IP addresses? I see the SNMP request come into the target device and the targets response received by zenoss but zenoss does send the getsnmp after that?
[11-Sep-2008 12:52:20] <roadies> Yet, if I setup the device via hostname it works ?? confused I am
[11-Sep-2008 13:44:55] <CamargoBP> roadies: I've setup plenty of devices via IP address
[11-Sep-2008 13:46:24] <roadies> CamargoBP, yeah I agree what the heck is going on....well I found it.......does sorry for the confused rant....but thanks for taking the time to reply....
[11-Sep-2008 13:47:04] <CamargoBP> So you figured it out then?
[11-Sep-2008 13:52:50] <roadies> CamargoBP: yeah....the stupidity on my part is just way high on this one..... ergo red faced I sleek away in hiding....*sign*..... just call it old man's gray matter is totally toast these days
[11-Sep-2008 13:53:45] <CamargoBP> Naw when I started using Zenoss, a week ago I had the same issue, it took a few hours to figure it out.
[11-Sep-2008 13:56:17] <roadies> ok another question.... with release 2.1 using network map, I could set the subnet to 10.0.0.0/ with 4 hops ... with 2.2.3 I can only see subnets if I cycle down to a specific subnet like 10.2.1.0/ but it only displays that subnet.....whats the trick to see an entire network from a class A or B aka 10.0.0.0/8 ?
[11-Sep-2008 13:57:47] <CamargoBP> Let me give it a go. One sec.
[11-Sep-2008 14:00:43] <CamargoBP> Good questiong
[11-Sep-2008 14:00:54] <CamargoBP> question. I don't know.
[11-Sep-2008 14:01:31] <CamargoBP> Are all your networks nested properly? ie. 10.3.0.0 > 10.3.1.0 etc...
[11-Sep-2008 14:04:57] <roadies> CamargoBP: I have over 24 subnets to the 10.0.0.0 class A, what I wonder is...does the Zenoss system have to belong to the highest subnet? aka 10.0.0.0...aka what does the hop setting really do
[11-Sep-2008 14:06:21] <roadies> CamargoBP: if U click on a device, the map that is drawn is what it sees from each interface.
[11-Sep-2008 14:06:41] <CamargoBP> Correct
[11-Sep-2008 14:10:10] <roadies> CamargoBP: so I think the issue is, mapping only see 4 deep... aka device "X" will see each subnet 4 deep from each of its interfaces... bummer.... I wonder is a fakeout could get it to see every subnet.... aka turn it into a router and get all the subnets
[11-Sep-2008 14:26:06] <roadies> oh peanut butter..... turning it into a router didnt work.... *sign*
[11-Sep-2008 14:34:03] <can_jafo> Morning all.
[11-Sep-2008 14:59:48] <mrayzenoss> Good morning everybody
[11-Sep-2008 14:59:56] <bedwards> hello
[11-Sep-2008 15:00:14] <mrayzenoss> bedwards and I are here to answer your questions this morning
[11-Sep-2008 15:00:29] <mrayzenoss> There may be a few other Zenoss lurkers, hopefully they'll chip in
[11-Sep-2008 15:00:58] <can_jafo> Morning.
[11-Sep-2008 15:01:23] <can_jafo> I've just started testing Zenoss this week so it's still totally new to me.
[11-Sep-2008 15:01:40] <can_jafo> Is there a fix for the WMI RPC_S_CALL_FAILED events?
[11-Sep-2008 15:02:41] <can_jafo> or am I in the wrong place for these type of questions?
[11-Sep-2008 15:02:44] <mrayzenoss> are you referrring to a ticket?
[11-Sep-2008 15:02:47] <mrayzenoss> no, this is the right place
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:19] <can_jafo> I'm looking at this forum thread:
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:24] <can_jafo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16603#16603
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:36] <can_jafo> But there's no firewall between my Zenoss box and the windows box.
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Stopped Zenwin not shown in Zenoss Issues on Dashboard (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Sep-2008 15:03:58] <mrayzenoss> Is this against Vista?
[11-Sep-2008 15:04:35] <can_jafo> No it's Win2k server.
[11-Sep-2008 15:05:43] <mrayzenoss> there are a bunch of windows fixes going into 2.2.4, which is about to go out
[11-Sep-2008 15:05:48] <mrayzenoss> are you running 2.2.3?
[11-Sep-2008 15:05:51] <cgibbons> can_jafo: have you tried using the wmic command manually to see if connectivity between your zenoss host & the box in question is OK? (if not I can describe)
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:04] <can_jafo> yeah, I'm running 2.2.3
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:15] <can_jafo> cgibbons: nope.
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:46] <can_jafo> zenwinmodeler run -v 10 ends with the following output:
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:56] <can_jafo> DEBUG:zen.zenwinmodeler:Wmi Probs ['lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca']
[11-Sep-2008 15:06:56] <can_jafo> WARNING:zen.zenwinmodeler:skipping lhplan01.sjhc.london.on.ca has bad wmi state
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:02] <cgibbons> k, it's easy to do. try this: $ZENHOME/bin/wmic -U yourusername%yourpassword //yourhostname 'select * from win32_computersystem'
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:37] <cgibbons> yeah, once it gets an error it'll put the device into a bad state (deliberately) until you go manually clear it, at least for now. that command will tell us if the low-level connectivity is there or if there is something higher level going on.
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:38] <Sain0rs> I thought the WMI calls only working on Windows XP/2003+
[11-Sep-2008 15:07:48] <Sain0rs> er, only worked on
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:00] <cgibbons> there are some issues with Windows 2000 & WMI modeling, even though the low level stuff works okay (exactly Sain0rs)
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:19] <can_jafo> cgibbons: I don't have a wmic binary in $ZENHOME/bin
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:45] <cgibbons> hurm, might be somewhere else depending upon what type of install you have. appliance? stack? source?
[11-Sep-2008 15:08:50] <can_jafo> It's possible this is an issue on the Windows site too. I don't admin that box, I'm a Unix guy.
[11-Sep-2008 15:09:34] <can_jafo> cgibbons: *gah* it was common/bin
[11-Sep-2008 15:09:43] <cgibbons> yeah... sounds like a stack
[11-Sep-2008 15:09:58] <can_jafo> I don't have credentials for the windows box though.
[11-Sep-2008 15:11:01] <can_jafo> Sorry, I don't even know what WMI is, I'm just trying to eliminate the event so it doesn't show up on the dashboard.
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:00] <can_jafo> Do the admin credentials for the windows box have to be configured in Zenoss?
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:05] <cgibbons> yeah
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:23] <can_jafo> cgibbons: well that would be my problem then (doh).
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:53] <Sain0rs> if possible you might try and ask them to install SNMP Informant on that Windows machine and collect data via SNMP instead of WMI
[11-Sep-2008 15:12:59] <cgibbons> WMI is called Windows Management Instrumentation; if you've ever heard of CIM (Common Information Model) then it's Microsoft's implementation of it. short story is it uses a set of DCOM classes that are called via DCE/RPC to pull back management data.
[11-Sep-2008 15:13:08] <mrayzenoss> if you want to get rid of the events, at the zProperties, set zWmiMonitorIgnore = True
[11-Sep-2008 15:13:49] <cgibbons> (and the good news is we're working hard on making all of this remote Windows monitoring a lot more robust right now)
[11-Sep-2008 15:14:02] <can_jafo> But I can accomplish the same thing with SNMP? Im' sure the windows admins won't be keen on giving me admin access to their boxes.
[11-Sep-2008 15:14:44] <cgibbons> you can probably get all that you need via SNMP if they enable it on the servers you need.
[11-Sep-2008 15:14:53] <can_jafo> Yes they have.
[11-Sep-2008 15:15:42] <mrayzenoss> So speaking of Windows monitoring...
[11-Sep-2008 15:16:05] <mrayzenoss> We're going to be adding a new "zenoss-windows" forum just for monitoring Windows discussions
[11-Sep-2008 15:16:12] <cgibbons> yippie!
[11-Sep-2008 15:16:15] <can_jafo> Excellent.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <mrayzenoss> there seems to be a bit too much traffic on zenoss-users, so we'll try to spread it out a bit
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> I'm trying to convince management to use Zenoss as opposed to Openview.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <mrayzenoss> they'll save a bit of money
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> So if I can get this stable and useful before the openview pilot I"m laughing.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> 1 more question.
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <mrayzenoss> sure
[11-Sep-2008 15:17:56] <can_jafo> I"m getting lots of "/Perf/Snmp" Error reading value for X (oid xxxxxx is bad) events.
[11-Sep-2008 15:18:07] <can_jafo> Does that mean Zenoss is looking for an OID that the server doesn't have or have I not enabled something on the servers I want to monitor?
[11-Sep-2008 15:19:42] <can_jafo> Example from a sun box:
[11-Sep-2008 15:19:55] <can_jafo> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on bat.lhsc.on.ca (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:24] * daMaestro is a little late
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:29] <daMaestro> any developers still around?
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:40] <can_jafo> daMaestro: yup
[11-Sep-2008 15:20:52] <can_jafo> (not me)
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:07] <daMaestro> cool, i was wondering if i should be developing patch sets against trunk? or?
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:11] <mrayzenoss> we're here, looking for the right answer to his question
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:23] <can_jafo> mrayzenoss: thanks.
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:25] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: what are you patching?
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:40] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i'm sick of sendString not being able to have \n
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:42] <bedwards> can_jafo: can you do snmpwalk on that oid
[11-Sep-2008 15:21:53] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, it's impossible to implement HTTP/1.1 requests
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:11] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: is there a ticket?
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:29] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, from a long time ago, with a poor patch set (IMHO)
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:47] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i was going to just develop a patch set and submit it as a bug
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:49] <mrayzenoss> ok, let me find it and I'll walk you through getting a patch in and on our radar
[11-Sep-2008 15:22:52] <mrayzenoss> that works too
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:03] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i can do the patch set ;-)
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:20] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i just want to know if i should do it against trunk or against the 2.2.3 release?
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:31] <mrayzenoss> at this point, Trunk
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:43] <mrayzenoss> it has to be a blocker to get applied to 2.2.X
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:53] <mrayzenoss> 2.2.4 is frozen and about to come out
[11-Sep-2008 15:23:54] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/2489
[11-Sep-2008 15:24:04] <can_jafo> grr... trying to get snmpwalk syntax. one sec.
[11-Sep-2008 15:24:04] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 goes to beta in 2 weeks
[11-Sep-2008 15:24:24] <mrayzenoss> so the window for 2.2.x is closing
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:05] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Is that your ticket?
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:05] <krphop> is there anyway to change the fonts that are used in the RRD's, but only for particular users?
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:13] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, no.. just something i foudn
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:14] <bedwards> can_jafo: you can do snmpwalk from the web ui on the device page, page menu, run commands
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:16] <daMaestro> found*
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:22] <cgibbons> okay, I just checked.. the fixes we had for Windows 2000 WMI modeling aren't in the 2.2.x branches, just in the trunk. so that's coming in a later release.
[11-Sep-2008 15:25:52] <can_jafo> snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic bat.lhsc.on.ca .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:00] <can_jafo> just returns with no output
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:29] <can_jafo> bedwards: can I pass the OID to the web UI?
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:35] <jp105581> Hi Zenoss Dev's!
[11-Sep-2008 15:26:49] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: so open a new ticket: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket and put patch in there
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:05] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: and add the "contribute" keyword
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:06] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i will (and i know how to open tickets) ;-)
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:17] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i just wanted to know what i should develop against
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:24] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, also.. is there a zenoss buildout anywhere?
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:26] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: ok, over kill
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:34] <bedwards> can_jafo: nope, just system, so command line is your only option
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:38] <mrayzenoss> buildout?
[11-Sep-2008 15:27:57] <can_jafo> bedwards: ya, I'm getting no output from snmpwalk on the command line.
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:15] <can_jafo> bedwards: does that mean I need to configure net-snmp to recognize that OID then?
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:22] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout\
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:24] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, someone in the channel was working on one... :: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout
[11-Sep-2008 15:28:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Python Package Index : zc.buildout 1.1.1 (at pypi.python.org)
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:00] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, it would make developing for zenoss much easier
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:09] <bedwards> can_jafo: there is no problem with the net-snmp client recognizing that OID
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:15] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: we would like to make our builds easier
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:26] <mrayzenoss> I'll mention it to dev, see what Ian thinks
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:40] <bedwards> can_jafo: it appears that the server isn't sending anything back for that OID
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:41] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, good.. use buildouts. ;-) it's the standard zope way to do things (and it's what we use with plone)
[11-Sep-2008 15:29:55] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i'm also going to be working on a plugin for webmetrics
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:01] <mrayzenoss> cool
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:22] <can_jafo> bedwards: I get the same alert for a fwe OIDs on the windows boxes too.
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:28] <cgibbons> welcome Chet
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:33] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Ian thinks Buildout is good stuff, we're looking at it for some stuff already
[11-Sep-2008 15:30:36] <can_jafo> So they're safe to ignore then?
[11-Sep-2008 15:31:03] <mrayzenoss> jmp242: Greetings
[11-Sep-2008 15:31:42] <mrayzenoss> krphop: I don't know about changing the fonts on RRD, I'll look into tthat
[11-Sep-2008 15:32:05] <mrayzenoss> krphop: particular users might be an issue
[11-Sep-2008 15:33:36] <krphop> mrayzenoss: basically, i have one user that just uses a multigraph dashboard thats created, and I'd like that user to use slightly smaller fonts for the RRD's
[11-Sep-2008 15:33:42] <jmp242> hi mrayzenoss
[11-Sep-2008 15:33:45] <jmp242> how's it going?
[11-Sep-2008 15:34:07] <mrayzenoss> pretty good. We've got 3 Zenoss devs in the channel and me.
[11-Sep-2008 15:34:16] <jmp242> cool - any info on release of 2.2.4?
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:05] <bedwards> can_jafo: that OID is for Total RAM Buffered
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:31] <mrayzenoss> So I went down to the configuration manager's office and asked about the state of 2.2.4
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:44] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, recommendation: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ add (on the front page) how to checkout the source
[11-Sep-2008 15:36:48] <mrayzenoss> we have 1 blocker that is being actively worked on (probably fixed today)
[11-Sep-2008 15:37:11] <mrayzenoss> a day to build and 2 days of testing, so probably Monday
[11-Sep-2008 15:37:49] <mrayzenoss> a pre-release of 2.2.4 slipped into rPath accidentally and was available to appliance users, don't use it!
[11-Sep-2008 15:38:13] <can_jafo> bedwards: so I need to figure out how to get net-snmp to return a value for that OID then?
[11-Sep-2008 15:38:14] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: ok, noted
[11-Sep-2008 15:39:39] <can_jafo> bedwards: i'm having the same issue with OID .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 on the windows boxes so I"m getting no CPU data for them.
[11-Sep-2008 15:40:17] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, is the standard patch set just a gendiff from trunk?
[11-Sep-2008 15:41:06] <jmp242> no, I don't use the VMWare appliance
[11-Sep-2008 15:41:52] <jmp242> I hope to get to try out 2.2.4 if it's out sometime next week, as I haven't upgraded since 2.1.2
[11-Sep-2008 15:44:33] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: yeah, that works
[11-Sep-2008 15:45:03] <mrayzenoss> jmp242: a lot of work has been done on migrating 2.1->2.2.4, so that should be good
[11-Sep-2008 15:46:49] <jmp242> That will make me a happy ZenMaster lol!
[11-Sep-2008 15:47:15] <can_jafo> Where can I set the thresholds for triggering events on things like disk space and network interface utilization?
[11-Sep-2008 15:47:21] <bedwards> can_jafo: other OIDs are working, correct?
[11-Sep-2008 15:47:51] <can_jafo> bedwards: Yup, I'm collecting data from the Sun and Windows boxes but a few OIDs are failing on each platform.
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:01] <can_jafo> bedwards: I just read a posting in the forum about needing NMP Informant
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:03] <can_jafo> extension for Windows
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:28] <jmp242> If you use built in Zenoss Windows, you need SNMP Informant
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:34] <jmp242> you can use the WMI zenpack(s)
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:41] <jmp242> and avoid SNMP Informant
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:52] <jmp242> or perfmon too, if you configure it right IIRC
[11-Sep-2008 15:49:53] <can_jafo> bedwards: so that may be my problem on the windows side but net-snmp on the Sun boxes is the bundled Solaris 10 net-snmp.
[11-Sep-2008 15:50:22] <can_jafo> jmp242: But I need administrative credentials for the boxes to use WMI and the windows guys likely won't go for that.
[11-Sep-2008 15:50:33] <jmp242> what about Perfmon?
[11-Sep-2008 15:50:48] <jmp242> well, time for lunch
[11-Sep-2008 15:51:27] <can_jafo> Thanks for the help everyone.
[11-Sep-2008 15:52:26] <can_jafo> I've already accomplished more with Zenoss than two consultant lead Openview projects here so it's looking really promising.
[11-Sep-2008 15:53:43] keith_ is now known as can_jafo
[11-Sep-2008 15:56:38] <mrayzenoss> krphop: There's a section of the Admin Guide that covers RRD configuration
[11-Sep-2008 15:57:08] <mrayzenoss> krphop: 7.1.1 in the "Format" section you can set the font, but you won't be able to change it for particular users
[11-Sep-2008 15:57:53] <mrayzenoss> krphop: just for particular graphs
[11-Sep-2008 15:59:19] <krphop> mrayzenoss: ok, any plans to have a configurable variable per user in the future?
[11-Sep-2008 16:00:20] <mrayzenoss> krphop: I don't think so, but you can open a ticket as an enhancement and we'll address it
[11-Sep-2008 16:00:50] <mrayzenoss> we've been making a lot of progress lately on the ticket backlog
[11-Sep-2008 16:00:59] <mrayzenoss> streamlining the process and whatnot
[11-Sep-2008 16:01:11] <mrayzenoss> so new tickets will get addressed a lot sooner
[11-Sep-2008 16:01:23] <mrayzenoss> we might not fix it, but it won't be put into limbo
[11-Sep-2008 16:02:06] <krphop> ok, cool, thanks
[11-Sep-2008 16:02:36] <mrayzenoss> bedwards has to get going, so we're going to wrap the session up shortly
[11-Sep-2008 16:03:24] <mrayzenoss> but we're making this a fixture on the development calendar, so we'll be here for sure every 2 weeks, and at other random times as well
[11-Sep-2008 16:04:12] <mrayzenoss> and as always, the forums are an active discussion venue for support and we'll be adding zenoss-windows soon
[11-Sep-2008 16:07:36] <sj7trunks> darn
[11-Sep-2008 16:07:48] <sj7trunks> i was gonna ask if there is anyway to apply OSProcesses to an entire class
[11-Sep-2008 16:57:04] <isotope> does zenoss support aggregate alerting?
[11-Sep-2008 16:57:30] <isotope> ie. " only page me when >20% of the hosts in the service group fail"
[11-Sep-2008 16:57:59] <isotope> I'm hoping zenoss can replace my nagios + cacti setup that I have now
[11-Sep-2008 17:00:20] sploozer is now known as Guest27780
[11-Sep-2008 17:02:38] <daMaestro> anyone know if there is a way to make v2c the default snmp version?
[11-Sep-2008 17:14:47] <sj7trunks> daMaestro yes
[11-Sep-2008 17:16:00] <sj7trunks> you can go to the device class say /device/server/Linux and edit zProperties
[11-Sep-2008 17:16:11] <sj7trunks> should find zSnmpVer
[11-Sep-2008 17:30:27] <isotope> nice gig if you can get it-> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sad/836641687.html
[11-Sep-2008 17:30:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Infrastructure Architect - Gap Inc. Direct (at sfbay.craigslist.org)
[11-Sep-2008 17:32:11] <sj7trunks> i could get it probably
[11-Sep-2008 18:08:07] <Linux50> I was wondering if anyone can help me with the google map network link (the green line between sites). I have been trying to figure out why my google map is showing a link between site 2 and site 3 but not between site 1 and 2 nor site 1 3. Pretty much site 1 is not linking to anybody. my zPingMonitorIgnore = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyIndirect = false, zRouteMapCollectOnlyLocal=false, zSnmpMonitorIgnore=false
[11-Sep-2008 18:13:28] * dundel Kill - One Tree Hill - Jimmy Eat World (x«amarok)
[11-Sep-2008 18:32:45] <CamargoBP> Linux50: Has anyone addressed your concern?
[11-Sep-2008 18:32:51] <Linux50> no
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:18] <CamargoBP> I'm just about to head out to lunch for an hour. If you are here in about an hour I can help with that
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:32] <Linux50> ill be here until 5pm pst
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:39] <CamargoBP> Alright.
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:40] <Linux50> thank you in advance
[11-Sep-2008 18:33:55] <CamargoBP> Tchaú
[11-Sep-2008 19:18:45] <CamargoBP> Linux50: Are you still here?
[11-Sep-2008 19:23:40] <Linux50> hey CamargoBP
[11-Sep-2008 19:23:49] <Linux50> Sorry I was working on another screen
[11-Sep-2008 19:23:49] <CamargoBP> Howdy
[11-Sep-2008 19:24:30] <CamargoBP> No prob
[11-Sep-2008 19:24:48] <CamargoBP> So what's up. About the maps? It looks like you have links sort of wokring
[11-Sep-2008 19:25:26] <Linux50> We have three sites. Site 1 has links to site 2 and site 3
[11-Sep-2008 19:25:36] <Linux50> site 2 and 3 are also linked to each other
[11-Sep-2008 19:25:41] <Linux50> full mesh
[11-Sep-2008 19:26:00] <Linux50> There connected together via 192.168.100.0/30
[11-Sep-2008 19:58:46] <cgibbons> hey cote
[11-Sep-2008 19:59:01] <cote> cgibbons: hello!
[11-Sep-2008 20:59:24] <muppethouse> a long time ago I learned how to recursively make setting changes from the command line - can anyone point me in the right direction for adding an IP service check for a slew of devices?
[11-Sep-2008 21:12:29] <DarienWork> oh thank god
[11-Sep-2008 21:13:28] <DarienWork> ok, I've got an annoying problem - I'm trying to set up Zenoss on one server to monitor a process on the other server... and it tells me it's not running (it is) but I can't figure out how it's trying to check, to see why it's failing
[11-Sep-2008 21:14:24] <DarienWork> I've got it set up as an 'OS Process', but since it's a collection of TCP-listening daemons, I'm wondering if it makes more sense from a Zenoss point of view to just set it up as IP Services
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:02] <sj7trunks> OSProcesses has a bug
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:12] <sj7trunks> you need to add it to the device and then "lock" it
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:51] <sj7trunks> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16880&sid=5b52406db8f5fe91a241cfab9d61a839
[11-Sep-2008 21:15:56] <DarienWork> lock from deletion or updates also?
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:06] <sj7trunks> lock em from deletion
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:09] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - OSProcesses disappeared (at community.zenoss.com)
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:39] <DarienWork> but it's never ever showed them as running
[11-Sep-2008 21:16:55] <DarienWork> it doesn't go away, it's never worked at all
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:00] <sj7trunks> heh
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:13] <sj7trunks> have you set up an OSProcess that's worked in the past?
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:29] <DarienWork> yep, it was watching postfix for a while
[11-Sep-2008 21:17:34] <DarienWork> though it whined like crazy because it kept restarting
[11-Sep-2008 21:18:39] <sj7trunks> hrmm so you add the OSProcess to the device and it shows up Red?
[11-Sep-2008 21:18:52] <DarienWork> yep
[11-Sep-2008 21:19:07] <sj7trunks> then your regex must be off for that process
[11-Sep-2008 21:19:48] <DarienWork> does the regex need to match the whole line?
[11-Sep-2008 21:20:06] <DarienWork> I've got 'mongrel_rails' and ignore params: False
[11-Sep-2008 21:20:27] <DarienWork> but the process is '/usr/bin/ruby1.8 /usr/local/bin/mongrel_rails start ....'
[11-Sep-2008 21:20:55] <sj7trunks> try *mongrel_rails*
[11-Sep-2008 21:21:25] <DarienWork> !
[11-Sep-2008 21:21:27] <DarienWork> <3
[11-Sep-2008 21:21:53] <sj7trunks>
[11-Sep-2008 21:22:25] <DarienWork> ok, oops... so next question... what if I want it to make sure there are five of them running? NOW do I need IP services?
[11-Sep-2008 21:23:11] <sj7trunks> i have seen that you can set a number of processses to monitor in the properties dialog of OSProcess classes
[11-Sep-2008 21:23:56] <DarienWork> I see the 'zCountProcs'... let's see if that changes it
[11-Sep-2008 21:24:46] <DarienWork> now it's not running again
[11-Sep-2008 21:25:15] <DarienWork> this is either confusing or I need more sleep
[11-Sep-2008 21:26:42] <sj7trunks> well we did just do zCountProcs
[11-Sep-2008 21:26:51] <sj7trunks> try changing it back to nothing
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:19] <DarienWork> no wait, it's running now
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:21] <DarienWork> 'running'
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:22] <sj7trunks> hehe
[11-Sep-2008 21:27:31] * sj7trunks gives it some gatorade
[11-Sep-2008 21:28:33] <sj7trunks> also did you notice the zAlertOnRestart?
[11-Sep-2008 21:28:41] <sj7trunks> you can turn that off for postfix
[11-Sep-2008 21:29:27] <DarienWork> yeah, well I actually turned smtpd off entirely, since these machines aren't receiving mail
[11-Sep-2008 21:29:41] <DarienWork> but yeah, I took that off... what does that actually *do*? watch the pid to see if it changes?
[11-Sep-2008 21:30:25] <DarienWork> zenoss seems confusingly complicated but also very awesome
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:16] <sj7trunks> well the thing is zenoss is a bunch of developers and it seems like a really cool project lead thrown together
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:19] <DarienWork> also, I can't get to the machine's 'perf' tab anymore, ever since I tried installing (then removing) zenpacks on it
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:27] <sj7trunks> the documentation however
[11-Sep-2008 21:31:46] <sj7trunks> it does everything in sections without really linking sections that should go together
[11-Sep-2008 21:32:56] <sj7trunks> darien well could be because you stopped monitoring devices altogether
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:13] <sj7trunks> try going to a device
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:16] <sj7trunks> without changing anything
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:20] <sj7trunks> click zproperties
[11-Sep-2008 21:33:31] <sj7trunks> what does zDeviceTemplates tell you
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:30] <DarienWork> where do I find zProperties of a device?
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:38] <DarienWork> oh there it is
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:54] <DarienWork> Device, ethernetCsmacd, ethernetCsmacd_64, FileSystem, IpService, OSProcess
[11-Sep-2008 21:53:58] <DarienWork> gotta go, back in a bit
[11-Sep-2008 21:54:03] <DarienWork> thanks for all the help!
[11-Sep-2008 21:56:07] <sj7trunks> sure
[11-Sep-2008 21:57:44] <sj7trunks> so normally you don't apply those templates to a device
[11-Sep-2008 21:57:50] <sj7trunks> well some of them
[11-Sep-2008 21:58:15] <sj7trunks> ethernetCsmacd, ethernetCsmacd_64, FileSystem, OSProcess
[11-Sep-2008 21:58:21] <sj7trunks> we can look at it when you get back
[11-Sep-2008 22:28:37] <CamargoBP> Does anyone else try to model Dell RAC's via SNMP? I can't seem to get much information from them.
[11-Sep-2008 22:53:17] <sj7trunks> did you download the MIB CamargoBP?
[11-Sep-2008 22:53:23] <CamargoBP> yep
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:00] <sj7trunks> i've got the extended MIB
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:06] <sj7trunks> it's loaded with stuff but top level doesn't look like much
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:19] <CamargoBP> Where did you get it?
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:50] <sj7trunks> standard linux distro has it but i had to fiddle with it to get it loaded
[11-Sep-2008 22:54:54] <sj7trunks> in zenoss
[11-Sep-2008 22:55:14] <CamargoBP> Where would I find it in the distro?
[11-Sep-2008 22:55:30] <sj7trunks> /usr/share/snmp/mibs/NET-SNMP-EXTEND-MIB.txt
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:35] <CamargoBP> I'm getting this error under ZenPacks
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:36] <CamargoBP> Products.ZenModel.ZenPack
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:45] <CamargoBP> This pack is missing or broken. You may need to restart Zope.
[11-Sep-2008 22:57:53] <CamargoBP> I've restarted Zope many times
[11-Sep-2008 22:58:03] <sj7trunks> try to remove the offended zenpack?
[11-Sep-2008 22:58:17] <CamargoBP> Anyway to get rid of it? It doesn't say which pack it is
[11-Sep-2008 22:58:42] <CamargoBP> No check boxes are next to the line
[11-Sep-2008 23:00:51] <sj7trunks> which zenpacks
[11-Sep-2008 23:02:33] <CamargoBP> http://pastebin.com/m62dcf544
[11-Sep-2008 23:02:36] <CamargoBP> That is what I am seeing
[11-Sep-2008 23:02:39] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[11-Sep-2008 23:05:38] <isotope> how do you force a device to be updated
[11-Sep-2008 23:06:11] <isotope> I just changed a zProperty for a device and I want to run the check again to see if it works
[11-Sep-2008 23:13:20] _krphop is now known as krphop
[11-Sep-2008 23:15:07] <sj7trunks> you run model device
[11-Sep-2008 23:15:57] <isotope> Ah, thanks
[11-Sep-2008 23:16:24] <sj7trunks> comargo i would say try removing the poweredge pack
[11-Sep-2008 23:53:24] <DarienWork> back
[11-Sep-2008 23:53:26] <DarienWork> what fun
[11-Sep-2008 23:55:36] <DarienWork> oh, another question I had - is there a way to get rid of 'WinProcesses'? I have no Windows processes, as I have no Windows
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[12-Sep-2008 00:09:56] <DarienWork> are there any bugs in the IP Services thing? I can't seem to add arbitrary services
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:10] <daMaestro> DarienWork, there is a bug, yes
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:16] <daMaestro> DarienWork, there is also a patch to fix the bug
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:17] <DarienWork> ok
[12-Sep-2008 00:10:20] <DarienWork> oh nice
[12-Sep-2008 00:12:18] <daMaestro> DarienWork, http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3416
[12-Sep-2008 00:12:29] <DarienWork> thanks, Google wasn't giving love
[12-Sep-2008 00:15:03] <DarienWork> do I have to restart something before it'll work?
[12-Sep-2008 00:16:02] <DarienWork> ah, there we go
[12-Sep-2008 00:42:21] <DarienWork> ok, is there a quick and easy way to tell Zenoss 'monitor these ports on this server'?
[12-Sep-2008 00:42:36] <DarienWork> because right now I'm going around in circles, I've added IP Services for a bunch of ports but when I add them nothing happens
[12-Sep-2008 00:44:19] <DarienWork> as in, they don't show up in the list at all
[12-Sep-2008 00:45:40] <DarienWork> I wish sj7trunks were here, he's my hero </3
[12-Sep-2008 01:04:03] <sj7trunks> lol
[12-Sep-2008 01:04:40] <sj7trunks> thanks DarienWork:)
[12-Sep-2008 01:05:15] <sj7trunks> was working on pushing a release and a postgresql backup/verification script
[12-Sep-2008 01:05:37] <DarienWork> sounds like fun
[12-Sep-2008 01:05:41] <DarienWork> I need to write one of those too
[12-Sep-2008 01:06:56] <DarienWork> so I guess I should have had the zenoss-plugins package on the sever i was monitoring, so that's done
[12-Sep-2008 01:07:37] <sj7trunks> ah
[12-Sep-2008 01:07:42] <sj7trunks> i use snmp for everything
[12-Sep-2008 01:08:13] <sj7trunks> i may graduate to ssh one of these days... not sure if it's an open connection every 5 minutes or persistent connection
[12-Sep-2008 01:08:27] <DarienWork> looks like it's re-opening it, which I guess is good
[12-Sep-2008 01:08:58] <DarienWork> also I have other servers elsewhere in the world that need love, so I want to get it working in general
[12-Sep-2008 01:10:27] <sj7trunks> i plan on getting a collector for every site that's LB with a master zenoss server
[12-Sep-2008 01:10:41] <DarienWork> we have disparate servers standing on their own in the dark
[12-Sep-2008 01:10:54] <DarienWork> as well as an office and a rack in a data centre
[12-Sep-2008 01:11:07] <sj7trunks> ah
[12-Sep-2008 01:11:12] <DarienWork> I really wish I knew why it was dying on os.getlogin()
[12-Sep-2008 01:11:44] <sj7trunks> did you set the ssh user/pass from the zproperties?
[12-Sep-2008 01:14:15] <sj7trunks> http://dagobah.biz/flash/switchlinux3.swf
[12-Sep-2008 01:14:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Switchlinux3.swf (misc, switch) (at dagobah.biz)
[12-Sep-2008 01:14:25] <sj7trunks> and oldbie but goodie
[12-Sep-2008 01:16:39] <DarienWork> a classic
[12-Sep-2008 01:17:21] <DarienWork> OH YEAH
[12-Sep-2008 01:17:26] <DarienWork> it's finding all the Mongrel processes now
[12-Sep-2008 01:17:53] <sj7trunks> good to hear
[12-Sep-2008 01:24:46] <sj7trunks> i'm out
[12-Sep-2008 01:24:46] <sj7trunks> cheers
[12-Sep-2008 01:25:36] <DarienWork> later
[12-Sep-2008 01:25:39] <DarienWork> thanks for all the help
[12-Sep-2008 02:17:10] <emnaki> Hello there, anyone free right now to answer a question or two about Zenoss?
[12-Sep-2008 02:17:23] <DarienWork> you can ask
[12-Sep-2008 02:19:19] <emnaki> I'm trying out Zenoss, I've setup snmp agent in my Windows 2003 domain controller (properly I think), But when I model the device in Zenoss, only the hard disk component type is shown and my OS and software tabs are empty.
[12-Sep-2008 02:20:07] <emnaki> My Performance graphs for CPU, Free Memory and Paging is working.
[12-Sep-2008 02:23:43] <emnaki> I installed snmp-informant, I am snmp-walk to that, but I can't walk to system.... could that be the problem?
[12-Sep-2008 02:24:50] <DarienWork> dunno
[12-Sep-2008 02:24:59] <DarienWork> so snmp is working on some levels?
[12-Sep-2008 02:25:32] <emnaki> I guess so if I can get the perf graphs. I can snmpwalk too, but not to system.
[12-Sep-2008 02:25:57] <DarienWork> hmm
[12-Sep-2008 02:26:10] <DarienWork> I'm all Linux, so I can't really tell you too much about that
[12-Sep-2008 02:26:21] <emnaki> maybe I am missing core Mibs??
[12-Sep-2008 02:26:52] <emnaki> yeah me too, but people I am working for requested I monitor their windows machines.
[12-Sep-2008 02:37:45] <emnaki> So where should I start looking on the web for information about solving this problem? know of any place where I can find guides on monitoring windowws 2003?
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[12-Sep-2008 02:43:44] <DarienWork> I'm debating between a simple 'not me, sorry' and thinking up some snarky anti-Windows comment
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:09] <emnaki> So is Zenoss not the right solution if I want to monitor windows? would another monitoring tool be better for that?
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:19] <DarienWork> no idea
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:37] <DarienWork> if Windows doesn't work with Zenoss, find an OS that will
[12-Sep-2008 02:52:49] <DarienWork> but people apparently do monitor Windows with Zenoss
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:15] <DarienWork> emnaki: do you have WMI monitoring set up?
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:37] <DarienWork> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#ZenwinMonitoringWindows
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:50] <DarienWork> I assume you've read this
[12-Sep-2008 02:53:53] <adytum-bot> Title: FAQ (English) - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 02:56:20] <emnaki> Actually I haven't, I'll try that now.
[12-Sep-2008 02:56:50] <emnaki> So zenwin is something that runs on Zenoss server or the Windows machine?
[12-Sep-2008 03:00:51] <DarienWork> I think so
[12-Sep-2008 03:12:18] <daMaestro> anyone know how to turn debug mode on?
[12-Sep-2008 03:12:46] <daMaestro> or rather a way to log without debug mode?
[12-Sep-2008 03:13:23] <daMaestro> i see self.factory.msg being used, but it seems i can only set that property
[12-Sep-2008 03:13:51] <daMaestro> ah, log.info() looks good
[12-Sep-2008 03:16:08] <daMaestro> how about starting zenoss in debug mode (so i don't have to restart it when making code changes) .... (btw, buildouts++ #making these things easier)
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[12-Sep-2008 18:21:45] <sn1ffer72> hello
[12-Sep-2008 18:25:37] <Khazwerk> anyone around to help a newb?
[12-Sep-2008 18:26:00] <sto6ma9ch> I'm a n00b myself, but I'll see what I can do.
[12-Sep-2008 18:26:48] <Khazwerk> well, I'm just trying to get a handle on collecting and displaying windows events
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:01] <Khazwerk> I've got several of my servers on zenoss successfully
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:05] <Khazwerk> snmp, wmi working
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:21] <Khazwerk> but as an example, I want any failed login from the security log to show
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:33] <Khazwerk> and they don't seem to be, I'm guessing they're getting filtered out
[12-Sep-2008 18:27:41] <jmp242> They probably are Khazwerk
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:01] <jmp242> By default, Zenoss only grabs warning or higher events from windows
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:05] <Khazwerk> point me in the direction on where to fiddle with it?
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:20] <sto6ma9ch> I use the Syslog functionality of Zenoss to send audit logs.
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:27] <jmp242> You'll want to change the level
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:35] <sto6ma9ch> Not sure if it's the easiest, but it works.
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:38] <jmp242> I'm looking on my install for specifics of the zProperty to change
[12-Sep-2008 18:28:50] <Khazwerk> thanks jmp242
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:33] <jmp242> you need to go to /Devices/Server/Windows
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:39] <jmp242> and zProperties tab
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:40] <jmp242> change
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:41] <jmp242> zWinEventlogMinSeverity
[12-Sep-2008 18:29:49] <jmp242> to 5 to get everythinfg
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:00] <Khazwerk> alright cool, I'll do that
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:03] <Khazwerk> now from the event console
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:08] <jmp242> you might want to bone up on event mapping first, to move uninteresting things to history
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:13] <jmp242> or straight to /Ignore
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:19] <Khazwerk> oh ok
[12-Sep-2008 18:30:40] <jmp242> Unless you do want a record of everything
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:07] <Khazwerk> I guess at first I'm looking to see everything
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:15] <Khazwerk> and then tighten the screws to weed out what I don't want
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:31] <jmp242> right
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:44] <jmp242> then that ought to get you what you want if I'm remembering correctly
[12-Sep-2008 18:31:55] <Khazwerk> should I re-model devices once I make the changes?
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:11] <jmp242> no
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:27] <jmp242> WMI polling doesn't have anything to do with modeling that I can recall
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:37] <jmp242> just wait 15 minutes or so and you ought to start seeing events
[12-Sep-2008 18:32:56] <jmp242> Or, I suppose you could push changes to collectors... or restart zenoss to be sure
[12-Sep-2008 18:33:03] <jmp242> but I don't think it's necessary
[12-Sep-2008 18:34:00] <Khazwerk> alright thanks man
[12-Sep-2008 18:34:10] <Khazwerk> 2nd question for you
[12-Sep-2008 18:34:22] <Khazwerk> best way to pull IIS data from logs without the enterprise pack?
[12-Sep-2008 18:36:28] <jmp242> no idea, I don't use IIS
[12-Sep-2008 18:36:47] <sn1ffer72> has anyone ever made command calls to the cli to report a result as an event?
[12-Sep-2008 18:36:52] <jmp242> Can you send syslogs or send stuff right into the event viewer?
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:08] <Khazwerk> yeah that's what I was playing with actually
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:14] <Khazwerk> I have an epilog client on my iis box
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:17] <Khazwerk> and it'll dump right to zenoss
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:26] <Khazwerk> but it seems that EVERYTHING comes across as an 'error'
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:34] <Khazwerk> so it fills zenoss up with error events
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:34] <sn1ffer72> I wanna run a check via running from the command line
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:36] <jmp242> That's why you want event mapping
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:40] <Khazwerk> which kinda defeats the purpose
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:43] <jmp242> and transforms
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:48] <sn1ffer72> # curl <weburl> | grep "something"
[12-Sep-2008 18:37:51] <Khazwerk> ok time to read up sounds like
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:06] <sn1ffer72> then if something shows up respond back to zenoss as UP
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:19] <sn1ffer72> what is is I should be reading up?
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:27] <Khazwerk> no I mean I need to
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:28] <sn1ffer72> command templates? user commands?
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:30] <jmp242> sn1ffer72: I think that would be something like a Nagios plugin
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:43] <jmp242> That is, I've created a command datasource
[12-Sep-2008 18:38:44] <Khazwerk> I need to read up on mapping and transforms
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:02] <sn1ffer72> do I need nagios to use a nagiosplugin?
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:04] <jmp242> that then gets a webpage and greps it for some data
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:17] <jmp242> and returns a number like a Nagios plugin does
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:18] <sn1ffer72> cuz I am attempting to use zenoss to get rid of nagios
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:26] <jmp242> Zenoss can use Nagios Plugins
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:44] <jmp242> so I was able to graph that
[12-Sep-2008 18:39:50] <jmp242> I've also used a command datasource
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:04] <jmp242> to use smbclient to connect to a server to make sure its share was accessable
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:17] <jmp242> and when that fails, Zenoss automatically generates an error cmd/fail
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:28] <jmp242> I haven't, but could, map that to something more specific if I wanted to
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:45] <sn1ffer72> is this it?
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:45] <sn1ffer72> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/create-modify-nagios-templates
[12-Sep-2008 18:40:48] <jmp242> but it does tell me, by e-mail whith alerting, that the system is down
[12-Sep-2008 18:41:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Using Nagios Plugins with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 18:41:28] <jmp242> yea sn1ffer72
[12-Sep-2008 18:41:36] <jmp242> that looks like an overview
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:08] <jmp242> Make sure you stick the script or plugin in $ZENHOME/libexec
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:15] <jmp242> or Zenoss just WILL NOT run the check
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:16] <sn1ffer72> I only see the nagios check ping zenpack
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:16] <sn1ffer72> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:27] <jmp242> No, you don't need a zenpack for this
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:30] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPack Project Site - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 18:42:55] <jmp242> all you need is some script/code that outputs in the Nagios plugin format on the command line
[12-Sep-2008 18:48:06] <sn1ffer72> do you have a sample of that format?
[12-Sep-2008 18:51:25] <jmp242> You can see it on the Zenoss User Forums if you search
[12-Sep-2008 18:57:50] <sn1ffer72> http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/developer-guidelines.html
[12-Sep-2008 19:04:33] <sstringham> Hey there. I am trying to draw graphs of a custom command I am passing through SNMP. The command is returning a "string" type, and I think this is what is messing up the graphs. If I know the return is going to just be an integer, how can I tell zenoss to treat it as such?
[12-Sep-2008 19:04:48] <sstringham> $ snmpwalk -v2c -c public 192.168.1.21 .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.999.101.1
[12-Sep-2008 19:04:48] <sstringham> UCD-SNMP-MIB::ucdavis.999.101.1 = STRING: "61"
[12-Sep-2008 19:05:14] <sstringham> Is what I am getting. Graphing this string gives odd results. Anyone know a quick way around this?
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:02] <kgoedtel> why are you passing a string? are you using pass?
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:08] <sn1ffer72> perhaps use quick print values only -oV
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:19] <sstringham> I am using "exec"
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:24] <kgoedtel> ahh ok
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:26] <sn1ffer72> that princes the values only
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:31] <sn1ffer72> prints
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:44] <sstringham> sn1ffer72: Yeah, but Zenoss still sees it as a string.
[12-Sep-2008 19:07:52] <kgoedtel> i stopped using exec in favor of pass so i could define the data type
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:14] <sn1ffer72> try snmpget if you want 1 value
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:17] <sn1ffer72> instead of snmpwalk
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:42] <sn1ffer72> snmpwalk will work ok if you are going after something in hte system tree that only has 1 ifindex = .0
[12-Sep-2008 19:08:46] <sstringham> What are the tricks to using pass? Don't I have to parse out input values?
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:05] <sstringham> I was using exec because I need to pass the script an argument or 2.
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:20] <kgoedtel> pass is a bit trickier because of how you return values
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:26] <sstringham> (the script is just running an SQL query)
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:37] <sn1ffer72> so if you only wanna return one result from the snmp request use snmpget -v 2c -c community -oV IP ifInOctets.<ifindex>
[12-Sep-2008 19:09:57] <kgoedtel> but the nice thing about it is that you can do as many OIDs as you want in a single pass
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:18] <sstringham> sn1ffer72: right, but that isn't the problem. the problem is how zenoss interprets the SNMP data it returns. I could get it with telnet and still have the same problem with zenoss misinterpreting the data.
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:20] <sn1ffer72> try... not sure how you would graph them all in zenoss at the same time though
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:51] <sn1ffer72> so are you trying to return a single datapoint to zen?
[12-Sep-2008 19:10:57] <sstringham> Yes.
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:25] <sn1ffer72> and your command script returns just 1 value such as a number?
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:28] <sstringham> Using the "exec $OIDNUM /path/to/script.sh $ARGUMENT" setup in snmpd.conf
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:41] <sstringham> Yes, the only return is the one number.
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:54] <sn1ffer72> i got nothing then
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:56] <sn1ffer72> sorry
[12-Sep-2008 19:11:58] <kgoedtel> lol
[12-Sep-2008 19:12:16] <kgoedtel> i had the same problem with exec, hence why i stopped using it and switched to pass
[12-Sep-2008 19:12:41] <kgoedtel> i am fairly certain there is a documented workaround for exec on the forums though
[12-Sep-2008 19:13:12] <sstringham> I guess I could make it exit($value), and have zen graph that.
[12-Sep-2008 19:13:21] <sstringham> But that seems rather kludgy.
[12-Sep-2008 19:14:01] <kgoedtel> also i usually put those lines in snmpd.local.conf instead of snmpd.conf
[12-Sep-2008 19:14:33] <kgoedtel> keep the snmpd.conf pristine :]
[12-Sep-2008 19:16:24] <jmp242> Any big reason not to do this as a command data source that uses snmpwalk ...
[12-Sep-2008 19:16:49] <jmp242> and then return the single value to be graphed? I've been doing this rather successfully for 2 or three monitored things
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:02] <kgoedtel> that seems extra messy
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:17] <kgoedtel> instead of just using it as an snmp oid source
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:28] <jmp242> Hmmm
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:45] <kgoedtel> like if you are templating it
[12-Sep-2008 19:17:47] <jmp242> yea, I haven't ever tried what it looks like you are doing
[12-Sep-2008 19:18:21] <sstringham> kgoedtel: do you have a sample pass script I could use/modify to my needs?
[12-Sep-2008 19:18:23] <kgoedtel> i use it quite a bit personally
[12-Sep-2008 19:18:58] <sstringham> hmm, and it doesn't seem that "pass" will accept any arguments.
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:18] <sstringham> I would rather not have a different script on each of the 30+ machines this needs to go on.
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:21] <jmp242> So wait - you're running the script on the remote systems and having them pass that to net-snmp? so in Zenoss you're only seeing it as an OID you pull (you're not running any script on zenoss)
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:40] <sstringham> jmp242: correct.
[12-Sep-2008 19:19:47] <jmp242> I see. Yea, I've never done that
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:07] <jmp242> what I did was make a script on Zenoss that I could pass as arguments the {dev/manageIp}
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:19] <jmp242> etc, so I could be generic(ish)
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:39] <sstringham> Yeah, that won't work as the zenoss server doesn't have access to these external machines besides reading SNMP data.
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:59] <kgoedtel> yeah my script runs on each applicable server
[12-Sep-2008 19:20:59] <jmp242> so only snmp, no SSH...
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:10] <kgoedtel> it allows me to do much more complex things :]
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:14] <jmp242> interesting, never tried what you're doing (trying to be "agentless")
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:25] <kgoedtel> i graph tons and tons of NFS statistics
[12-Sep-2008 19:21:59] <jmp242> Maybe post in Zenoss-Users?
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:07] <jmp242> or ping cluther
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:10] <jmp242> he might know
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:19] <sstringham> kgoedtel: it sounds like you are doing a similar thing to what I need.
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:21] <kgoedtel> cluther would definitely know
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:26] <kgoedtel> i originally got my ideas from him
[12-Sep-2008 19:22:41] <kgoedtel> one sec i made a post about it along time ago
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:08] <kgoedtel> zenoss forums limiting my searches :[
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:26] <sstringham> Meh, I will just have the return value be the number of calls. retval is 32-bit anyway.
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:41] <kgoedtel> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11632&highlight=#11632
[12-Sep-2008 19:23:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Custom threshold using snmp oid value (at community.zenoss.com)
[12-Sep-2008 19:24:29] <kgoedtel> ignore most of it, it is pretty hackish
[12-Sep-2008 19:26:48] <cluther> sstringham: What version are you on? There was a fix in 2.2.1 to allow zenperfsnmp to handle numeric data coming back in string format.
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:38] <sstringham> 2.2.0.
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:43] <kgoedtel> ah hah!
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:44] <cluther> heh.
[12-Sep-2008 19:28:44] <sstringham> I should can has upgrade I guess.
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:03] <cluther> Or just "zenpatch 9390" and restart zenperfsnmp
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:04] <kgoedtel> get with the times jeez
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:07] <cluther> oops.. typo
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:09] <cluther> zenpatch 9490
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:18] <jmp242> I'm still on 2.1.2 darn it
[12-Sep-2008 19:29:34] <kgoedtel> i like to cut myself on the razor edge
[12-Sep-2008 19:30:01] <jmp242> Yea, but I saw lots of bugs with 2.2.0-2.2.3. ... hoping to go to 2.2.4 if it comes out next week
[12-Sep-2008 19:30:42] <sstringham> thanks cluther. Trying now.
[12-Sep-2008 19:34:29] <sstringham> Is there an easy way to reset the graph? I have 20-30 datapoints in the 300M range
[12-Sep-2008 19:36:37] <kgoedtel> delete your rrd file
[12-Sep-2008 19:37:07] <sstringham> unbinding/rebinding to see if that works
[12-Sep-2008 19:37:15] <sstringham> will delete rrd file next. Thanks though.
[12-Sep-2008 19:38:01] <sj7trunks> doot doot
[12-Sep-2008 19:51:50] <DarienWork> so yeah, OS processes are flipping out for some reason
[12-Sep-2008 19:53:47] <DarienWork> when I model a machine, all the processes show up, but then within a minute or two, they all show up as errors
[12-Sep-2008 20:15:34] <Linux50> hello everyone. Just wondering if someone could tell me the difference between the zenoss stack and the zenoss core
[12-Sep-2008 20:16:15] <jmp242> Linux50:
[12-Sep-2008 20:16:20] <jmp242> They are the same
[12-Sep-2008 20:16:47] <jmp242> Stack is an installer, RPM, DEB are packages for your package manager, and Zenoss Core is the actual product name
[12-Sep-2008 20:17:40] <Linux50> So if Im installing on Rhel 5.1 do I use the stack or core?
[12-Sep-2008 20:19:45] <jmp242> Depends
[12-Sep-2008 20:20:28] <jmp242> do you want to manage it youself (MySql, dependancies, certain customizations...) or just have it "work" for certain values of work?
[12-Sep-2008 20:20:52] <jmp242> Stack installs most everything and gets it working, but has some limitations and does not use the distro package manager
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:01] <jmp242> RPM is standard Red Hat
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:37] <Linux50> so what would you use?
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:49] <kgoedtel> rpm
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:52] <kgoedtel> for rhel
[12-Sep-2008 20:21:58] <Linux50> yes
[12-Sep-2008 20:22:24] <kgoedtel> expecially if you have RHN or are using repos to manage your packages
[12-Sep-2008 20:22:28] <kgoedtel> especially*
[12-Sep-2008 20:22:51] <Linux50> what are the limitations?
[12-Sep-2008 20:23:09] <kgoedtel> you need to get the dependencies yourself (via repos)
[12-Sep-2008 20:24:44] <kgoedtel> advantage being that your dependencies are now all managed by your system's package manager
[12-Sep-2008 20:31:59] <sstringham> Linux50: The dependencies are really easy to work out though. I have always used the RPMs on our RedHat machines.
[12-Sep-2008 20:34:06] <sn1ffer72> I made a command called check_coyote_ping
[12-Sep-2008 20:34:22] <sn1ffer72> It returns Coyote Ping OK
[12-Sep-2008 20:34:46] <sn1ffer72> I went to the device -> Templates -> performance templates
[12-Sep-2008 20:35:09] <sn1ffer72> create one.. selected COMMAND -> put the check_coyote_ping in there
[12-Sep-2008 20:35:14] <sn1ffer72> I am now getting this message
[12-Sep-2008 20:35:15] <sn1ffer72> Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins
[12-Sep-2008 20:38:21] <Linux50> has anyone ever deleted a device from zenoss then tried to re-add it and it not show up in the device-list?
[12-Sep-2008 20:44:57] <sn1ffer72> has anyone else ever seen this error message?
[12-Sep-2008 21:01:40] <sn1ffer72> have a good weekend
[12-Sep-2008 21:06:29] <sstringham> Is there an easy way to rearrange the graphs in the 'perf' tab of a device?
[12-Sep-2008 21:06:48] <sstringham> as each graph comes from a different template, how is the order determined?
[12-Sep-2008 21:08:12] <sstringham> Ah, just based on the name.
[12-Sep-2008 21:08:33] <sstringham> Fair enough, the names are free-form, I can just prepend "01" or whatev.r
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[13-Sep-2008 05:13:43] <Tadaka> I'm getting an error when upgrading to 2.2 on the zendmd step
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:05] <Tadaka> >>> from Products.ZenWidgets.ZenossPortlets.ZenossPortlets \
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> ... import register_default_portlets
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> >>> register_default_portlets(zport.ZenPortletManager)
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[13-Sep-2008 05:14:06] <Tadaka> File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
[13-Sep-2008 05:14:08] <Tadaka> AttributeError: ZenPortletManager
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[14-Sep-2008 13:13:48] <Xanthaos> Hi everyone. I'm running fc8 redhat and have taken an interestin the Zenoss NetMgmt software. The version I dl from SourceForge I have been told is for enterprise linux not fedora. Can someone help me?
[14-Sep-2008 13:14:53] <MrTux> Xanthaos: have a look at zenoss.com, documentation section
[14-Sep-2008 13:19:04] <Xanthaos> To narrow down my search under docs what am I looking for there? Admin guide, Install guide, FAQ's....
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[15-Sep-2008 12:52:07] <malbon> @zenoss-devs: patch for #3249 added to ticket.
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[15-Sep-2008 14:42:29] <sn1ffer72> Morning
[15-Sep-2008 14:42:57] <sn1ffer72> Same question as friday.. has anyone else seen this message when trying to call a nagiosplugin command call?
[15-Sep-2008 14:42:58] <sn1ffer72> Msg: Misuse of shell builtins
[15-Sep-2008 14:44:08] <sn1ffer72> from the command line I get the correct result that my script is trying to run
[15-Sep-2008 14:44:22] <sn1ffer72> Coyote Ping OK
[15-Sep-2008 14:47:44] <jmp242> can't say that I have sn1ffer72
[15-Sep-2008 14:49:14] <nemo_> damn people actually use the nagios plugs
[15-Sep-2008 14:53:16] <C_Kode> For some reason my Zenoss isn't charting (performance graphs) my network interfaces anymore. (SonicWall TZ190s and Kemp Technologies LM-1500s)
[15-Sep-2008 14:53:48] <C_Kode> It used to do this, but for some reason just stopped.
[15-Sep-2008 15:00:07] <jmp242> any errors in the log files C_Kode?
[15-Sep-2008 15:00:16] <jmp242> are your RRD files being updated?
[15-Sep-2008 15:00:54] <C_Kode> I wiped out the entire device and deleted all data and re-added them. They seem to be working now.
[15-Sep-2008 15:02:02] <C_Kode> Of course, that isn't something I want to be doing every few weeks.
[15-Sep-2008 15:02:04] <jmp242> Sounds like one of the configuration files may have gotten confused
[15-Sep-2008 15:02:15] <jmp242> IIRC, .pickle files may be at fault here
[15-Sep-2008 15:03:03] <jmp242> Did this just happen, or were you playing around with the Zenoss Config at the time (i.e. could you maybe have messed up filesystem permissions with a new datasource etc)
[15-Sep-2008 15:05:18] <C_Kode> Actually, I noticed it about 2 weeks ago, but was busy with putting out some other fires and didn't mess with it at the time. Today we started experiencing what appeared to be bandwidth congestion and I wasn't able to see what was happening
[15-Sep-2008 15:05:56] <C_Kode> It's possible I tried to change something in the past that may have screwed it up.
[15-Sep-2008 15:07:26] <jmp242> If it happens again, I would look at trying by clearing the pickle file first.
[15-Sep-2008 15:07:42] <jmp242> in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/devicename
[15-Sep-2008 15:07:52] <jmp242> and I mean, delete the .pickle file
[15-Sep-2008 15:09:26] <nemo_> yawn
[15-Sep-2008 15:10:43] <C_Kode> I will try that.
[15-Sep-2008 15:10:46] <C_Kode> Thanks.
[15-Sep-2008 17:53:54] <sn1ffer72> does anyone have a custom "command" that they created working?
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:20] <jmp242> sn1ffer72:
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:22] <jmp242> Depends
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:33] <jmp242> Do you mean one that's running as a data source/
[15-Sep-2008 17:55:34] <jmp242> ?
[15-Sep-2008 17:58:50] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:06] <sn1ffer72> only on one node
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:12] <sn1ffer72> so I go into the node
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:15] <sn1ffer72> select Templates
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:23] <jmp242> yes
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:29] <sn1ffer72> I mean "more" -> Templates
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:38] <sn1ffer72> Add Template
[15-Sep-2008 17:59:52] <sn1ffer72> then datasource "check_coyote_svcs"
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:01] <sn1ffer72> command template
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:09] <sn1ffer72> /home/zenoos/libexec/check_coyote_ping
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:29] <sn1ffer72> name and component = check_coyote_svcs"
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:32] <sn1ffer72> Enabled = True
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:36] <sn1ffer72> SSh = False
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:44] <sn1ffer72> event class /Cmd/Fail
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:48] <sn1ffer72> Event Key blank
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:52] <sn1ffer72> Severity = warning
[15-Sep-2008 18:00:54] <sn1ffer72> cycle time = 300
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:08] <sn1ffer72> when I run that script from the cli it works fine
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:31] <sn1ffer72> I did not need to specify a host -H flag because it is hardcoded into that command script
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:31] <jmp242> Is /home/zenoss $ZENHOME?
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:37] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:01:46] <jmp242> is the script executable?
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:19] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:23] <sn1ffer72> all 777
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:30] <sn1ffer72> this is the summary output
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:31] <sn1ffer72> Cmd: /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins
[15-Sep-2008 18:02:55] <jmp242> hmmm....
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:06] <sn1ffer72> I know...killing me
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:07] <jmp242> I have simpleish scripts working ok set up like you have
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:19] <jmp242> can you pastebin your script?
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:24] <sn1ffer72> sure
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:34] <jmp242> are you passing any arguments to the script?
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:47] <sn1ffer72> nope
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:48] <sn1ffer72> no need
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:51] <jmp242> what does the output from the CLI look like?
[15-Sep-2008 18:03:57] <jmp242> when it works
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:02] <sn1ffer72> Coyote Ping OK
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:20] <jmp242> hmmm
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:32] <jmp242> That might be part of it, but I don't know about the shell builtins
[15-Sep-2008 18:04:55] <sn1ffer72> I am actually using the COMMAND datasource
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:01] <sn1ffer72> instead of specifiying a 'built-in'
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:16] <jmp242> Yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:21] <jmp242> I mean the error you get
[15-Sep-2008 18:05:33] <jmp242> Msg: Misuse of shell builtins - I've never seen that
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:17] <sn1ffer72> I know
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:33] <sn1ffer72> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20625
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:44] <jmp242> Are you trying to just get OK or fail?
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:46] <sn1ffer72> that references http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3201
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP monitor zenpack (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:57] <jmp242> For graphing, I usually have an output:
[15-Sep-2008 18:06:57] <jmp242> Datasource|Datapoint=value
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:00] <sn1ffer72> just trying to report the output to the event screen
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:27] <jmp242> Alternatively, for a pass/fail
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:32] <sn1ffer72> yes
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:39] <jmp242> I've only done something where i run smbclient for instnace
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:50] <jmp242> and that program will auto pass a fail to connect for me
[15-Sep-2008 18:07:56] <jmp242> triggering the /cmd/fail . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:13] <jmp242> so you need to have your script return non 0 . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:13] <sn1ffer72> what do you get back as a return
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:24] <sn1ffer72> my guess is that perhaps it should print more back to the screen
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:27] <sn1ffer72> just as
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:33] <sn1ffer72> Ping Coyote OK
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:34] <sn1ffer72> exit 1
[15-Sep-2008 18:08:53] <jmp242> let me check what I've got
[15-Sep-2008 18:11:37] <jmp242> Ok
[15-Sep-2008 18:11:58] <jmp242> code: /usr/bin/smbclient //vpn214/route -U user%pass -c exit; echo $?
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:17] <jmp242> so - that for instance outputs:
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:32] <jmp242> Domain=[VPN214] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.9-1.3E.14.3]
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:32] <jmp242> 0
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:38] <jmp242> Return 0 I believe
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:41] <jmp242> when it fails . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:51] <sn1ffer72> ok so your output is multi-line?
[15-Sep-2008 18:12:53] <jmp242> I get non 0 on the command line, and Zenoss treats it as a failure
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:08] <jmp242> Well, when I use the run command in Zenoss for the command, that's what I get
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:38] <jmp242> yea, on the CLI it's multi line as well
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:47] <jmp242> I think it's looking for that 0 for OK
[15-Sep-2008 18:13:52] <sn1ffer72> when I run the zencommand -d hostname
[15-Sep-2008 18:14:03] <sn1ffer72> it runs the command and outputs what I want
[15-Sep-2008 18:14:10] <sn1ffer72> but when I run it via the GUI
[15-Sep-2008 18:15:20] <sn1ffer72> It actually chokes as if it cannot find a perl module
[15-Sep-2008 18:15:21] <sn1ffer72> Can't locate utils.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ~zenoss/libexec /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/ve
[15-Sep-2008 18:15:58] <sn1ffer72> /usr/libexec/utils.pm
[15-Sep-2008 18:16:21] <sn1ffer72> /home/zenoss/libexec -> ../../usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:16:41] <sn1ffer72> so the ZENHOME references the libexec symlink to /usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:16:49] <sn1ffer72> and the perl module is in the /usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:11] <sn1ffer72> now I am running:
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:17] <sn1ffer72> from the CLI
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:25] <sn1ffer72> zencommand run -d <hostname> -v10
[15-Sep-2008 18:18:51] <sn1ffer72> this is in turn running all of the checks on the node as if
[15-Sep-2008 18:19:33] <sn1ffer72> ok now from the CLI zencommand I am getting the same silly output
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:11] <jmp242> That's beyond me . . .
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:38] <jmp242> It sounds like an install issue ... I assume you're using 2.2.3? They changed a bunch there compared to 2.1.2
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Received exit code: 2
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Command: '/bin/sh -c exec /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping'
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Output: ''
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Process check_coyote_ping stopped (2), 0.324475 elapsed
[15-Sep-2008 18:20:59] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:The result of "/home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping" was ""
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:00] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Sending event {'severity': 4, 'message': 'Cmd: /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins', 'component': 'check_coyote_svcs', 'agent': 'zencommand', 'summary': 'Cmd: /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping - Code: 2 - Msg: Misuse of shell builtins', 'manager': 'localhost', 'eventKey': 'check_coyote_svcs', 'device': 'oms.ad.corporate.local', 'eventClass': '/Cmd/Fail', 'performanc
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:07] <sn1ffer72> sorry for all of the pasts
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:09] <sn1ffer72> pastes
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:26] <sn1ffer72> this install was out of the box
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:34] <sn1ffer72> via a VMWare appliance
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:36] <sn1ffer72> that they setup
[15-Sep-2008 18:21:57] <sn1ffer72> 2.2.3
[15-Sep-2008 18:22:11] <jmp242> Hmmm. Well, hopefully Chet can comment, or someone more versed in the perl issue than I am
[15-Sep-2008 18:22:36] <sn1ffer72> thanks
[15-Sep-2008 18:22:39] <sn1ffer72>
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:46] <isotope> how do I associte an ip service with a group?
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:46] <isotope> I created a custom ip service and a group
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:46] <isotope> just need to glue the two together
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:47] <sn1ffer72> I think it is an enviromental thing
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:52] <sn1ffer72> I just went into /usr/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 18:24:56] <sn1ffer72> ran the utils.sh
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:03] <sn1ffer72> that is right next to the utils.om
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:05] <sn1ffer72> .pm
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:17] <sn1ffer72> and then ran the zencommand again
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:22] <jmp242> isotope: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25074#25074
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:24] <jmp242> does that help?
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:26] <sn1ffer72> and it's output looks good
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - IP Service for Device Group (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Sep-2008 18:25:56] <jmp242> If you do figure this out sn1ffer72 - can you post it up on the Wiki for others getting the error?
[15-Sep-2008 18:26:16] <sn1ffer72> sure
[15-Sep-2008 18:26:27] <sn1ffer72> I think I may have it
[15-Sep-2008 18:26:46] <sn1ffer72> gonna add this to the zencommand /usr/libexec/utils.sh;<the rest of thecommand>
[15-Sep-2008 18:28:56] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Command: '/bin/sh -c exec /home/zenoss/libexec/check_coyote_ping'
[15-Sep-2008 18:28:56] <sn1ffer72> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Output: 'Coyote Ping OK\n'
[15-Sep-2008 18:29:44] <jmp242> Yea, sounds like somehow that's not getting in your path . . . you should not need to do that
[15-Sep-2008 18:29:58] <sn1ffer72> I agree.
[15-Sep-2008 18:32:13] <isotope> jmp242
[15-Sep-2008 18:32:15] <isotope> thanks
[15-Sep-2008 18:40:42] <sto6ma9ch> Quick question: Can zeopack.py be run when the Zenoss services are not running?
[15-Sep-2008 18:42:46] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: zeoctl and zopectl must be running
[15-Sep-2008 18:42:50] <sto6ma9ch> Gotcha, thanks!
[15-Sep-2008 18:43:36] <sto6ma9ch> Also, is there a certain amount of disk space that zeopack.py will need to run?
[15-Sep-2008 18:45:46] <sto6ma9ch> The Zenoss partition is 100 GB, and 98 GB are used.
[15-Sep-2008 18:45:46] <DarienWork> it shouldn't need 2GB
[15-Sep-2008 18:46:01] <sto6ma9ch> Sounds good. Thanks.
[15-Sep-2008 18:48:34] <MrTux> sto6ma9ch: it's usually completely run in ram
[15-Sep-2008 18:48:35] <sto6ma9ch> I see. I was originally running it with the services shut off since the disc space is so scarce. After two days, I thought something may be wrong.
[15-Sep-2008 18:48:35] <sto6ma9ch> Anyway, both services are running, and zeopack.py is going. Thanks for the help.
[15-Sep-2008 19:24:40] <jeld> Hi all
[15-Sep-2008 19:25:09] <jeld> anyone tried writing additional syslog parsing regexes into SyslogProcessing.py ?
[15-Sep-2008 19:33:41] <jeld> I have a foundry network device that sends messages which are not parsed right
[15-Sep-2008 19:57:53] <sn1ffer72> GOT IT
[15-Sep-2008 19:58:08] <sn1ffer72> my script did not have the proper use lib "/home/zenoss/libexec" in it
[15-Sep-2008 19:58:20] <sn1ffer72> it had use lib "~zenoss/libexec"
[15-Sep-2008 19:58:33] <sn1ffer72> apparently it did not dig shorthand
[15-Sep-2008 20:00:41] <afm> afternoon all (least where i'm at)
[15-Sep-2008 20:06:42] <jmp242> sn1ffer72: what about $ZENHOME/libexec ?
[15-Sep-2008 20:06:49] <jmp242> I think that's actually the best practice
[15-Sep-2008 20:07:10] <jmp242> for instance, my install is at /opt/zenoss/libexec
[15-Sep-2008 20:07:22] <jmp242> but $ZENHOME/libexec will work there also if the install worked
[15-Sep-2008 20:09:24] <sn1ffer72> good point.. I could try using the zenhome var
[15-Sep-2008 20:09:31] <sn1ffer72> as for the dir layout
[15-Sep-2008 20:09:49] <sn1ffer72> this was setup by them as a VM virtual appliance downloaded from their website
[15-Sep-2008 20:10:00] <sn1ffer72> so I don't want to mess around with where it puts stuff
[15-Sep-2008 20:10:12] <jmp242> I know, and I also have seen lots of issues on the forums with their VM Appliance too
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:17] <sn1ffer72> man
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:29] <sn1ffer72> Ok.. so it runs from both the command line
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:31] <sn1ffer72> and from the GUI
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:48] <sn1ffer72> now it does not report any thing as an even or register as if it is an active component
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:49] <sn1ffer72>
[15-Sep-2008 20:25:53] <sn1ffer72> fun for tomorrow
[15-Sep-2008 21:46:47] <daMaestro> hmm is it known that the ZenTcpClient doesn't properly speak SSL so you can't do a check against https?
[15-Sep-2008 21:47:20] <daMaestro> (you can check to see if the port responds, but the regex check is usless
[15-Sep-2008 21:47:23] <daMaestro> useless*
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[15-Sep-2008 22:08:29] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3740
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[16-Sep-2008 09:47:24] <uwe> hello, im trying to get trap 1.2.840.10036.1.6.0.2 ... so i'm trying to load IEEE802dot11-MIB.mib ... so i used the command (in order to fulfill dependencies) zenmib run SNMPv2-SMI.txt SNMPv2-TC.txt SNMPv2-CONF.txt RFC1213-MIB.txt IEEE802dot11-MIB.mib RFC1155-SMI.txt RFC-1212.txt RFC1158-MIB.txt ... but it skips RFC1185-MIB ! i tried to put the RFC1185-mib file twice at the end, i got segmentation fault !
[16-Sep-2008 09:48:14] <uwe> now i try to load ietf mibs and i get even more segmentation faults !! im running zenoss on debian etch
[16-Sep-2008 09:59:03] <uwe> um, let me ask the question diffrently, what do i need to do in order to translate the trap 1.2.840.10036.1.6.0.2
[16-Sep-2008 10:07:51] <emnaki> Anyone free to answer a question about Zenoss, I'm having problems with wmi.
[16-Sep-2008 10:12:24] <nemo_> emnaki, tip ask your question, dont ask about asking a question, you wont get a reply.
[16-Sep-2008 10:13:04] <emnaki> ok
[16-Sep-2008 10:13:45] <emnaki> When I try to model my device it gives me this warning: 2008-09-16 08:06:09 WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler skipping slafp1.internal.standardlife.hk has bad wmi state
[16-Sep-2008 10:15:35] <emnaki> It doesn't fill in my OS and Software tabs, but I can see the CPU, Free Memory, Paging performance charts
[16-Sep-2008 10:15:53] <nemo_> have you tried testing in on the cli
[16-Sep-2008 10:16:02] <nemo_> wine.exe options etc
[16-Sep-2008 10:16:41] <emnaki> Sorry I don't know how to do what you are suggesting.
[16-Sep-2008 10:16:59] <emnaki> new to network monitoring
[16-Sep-2008 10:17:24] <emnaki> I'm trying to monitor a windows 2003 DC
[16-Sep-2008 10:24:24] <emnaki> Do you mean win.exe? I can't seem to find wine.exe which is related to Zenoss.
[16-Sep-2008 10:25:12] <malbon_> emnaki: download the WMI tools from Microsoft to your workstation, then use those to connect to the DC using the username/password you want zenoss to use
[16-Sep-2008 10:25:48] <emnaki> wbemtest?
[16-Sep-2008 10:25:54] <malbon_> emnaki: then worry about the zenoss side.
[16-Sep-2008 10:26:21] <malbon_> emnaki: I use WMI Object Browser which is part of WMI tools from Microsoft.
[16-Sep-2008 10:26:55] <malbon_> emnaki: you can find it here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6430f853-1120-48db-8cc5-f2abdc3ed314&displaylang=en
[16-Sep-2008 10:29:51] <malbon_> emnaki: to get zenoss to try again you need to move the WMI event for that device to history.
[16-Sep-2008 10:31:43] <emnaki> Oh geez I didn't know that, so basically all my experiements up to now were useless ;(
[16-Sep-2008 10:32:27] <emnaki> I will have to login to my admin account to install the tools, will be back soon.
[16-Sep-2008 10:32:28] <malbon_> emnaki: 90% of WMI problems are due to credentials, but it isn't easy to track down.
[16-Sep-2008 10:32:44] <malbon_> emnaki: Run As?
[16-Sep-2008 10:33:18] <emnaki> hehe you know I am a linux person now. I will try run as.
[16-Sep-2008 10:34:36] <malbon_> emnaki: I am a UNIX SA, but it's better to know the enemy as so to speak.
[16-Sep-2008 10:39:46] <emnaki> Win32: The RPC server is unavaliable.
[16-Sep-2008 11:35:20] <nemo_> emnaki, like this :
[16-Sep-2008 11:35:37] <nemo_> winexe -A /tmp/zenwinperf-MLerHvLv //192.168.137.130 typeperf -si 300 -sc 5 "\Memory\Available bytes" "\System\Context Switches/sec" "\Processor(_Total)\Interrupts/sec" "\Processor(_Total)\% Privileged Time" "\System\Processor Queue Length" "\System\System Up Time" "\Processor(_Total)\% processor time" "\Processor(_Total)\% User Time"
[16-Sep-2008 11:36:03] <nemo_> thats how zenoss sends wmi requests to windows hosts
[16-Sep-2008 11:36:12] <nemo_> if you cant do it on the cli , zenoss cant either
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[16-Sep-2008 11:38:31] <epablo> Hi Zenoss
[16-Sep-2008 11:39:36] <epablo> Anyone have a couple of minutes to help me out with a problem with template?
[16-Sep-2008 11:44:04] <tarjei> epablo: state your problem, if someone can help you they will.
[16-Sep-2008 11:45:30] <epablo> Each time I try to create/edit a template zopectl dies
[16-Sep-2008 11:47:41] <epablo> When that happens I get the following event in the zeo.log
[16-Sep-2008 11:47:41] <epablo> 2008-09-15T16:26:02 INFO ZEO.StorageServer (24557/127.0.0.1:34239)
[16-Sep-2008 11:47:41] <epablo> disconnected
[16-Sep-2008 12:23:47] <tarjei> epablo: you should probably check file permissions and consider making a post to the forums.
[16-Sep-2008 12:24:45] <epablo> tarjei: thanks. I did both. I was hoping this would be a quicker more interactive way of troubleshooting the problem.
[16-Sep-2008 12:25:42] <epablo> tarjei: it's weird. Everything else works and I'm using the centOS rpm. So all was practically done by the scripts
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:14] <tarjei> epablo: try to increase the logging on the box.
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:19] <tarjei> epablo: are you using selinux?
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:31] <tarjei> if so, try disabling it.
[16-Sep-2008 12:26:43] <epablo> nope I'm not using it
[16-Sep-2008 12:28:16] <tarjei> hmm, then it's a) hunt for better logging, b) run strace on the process or c) run the process in gdb or d) post the results of a - c to the forums
[16-Sep-2008 12:29:34] <jmp242> In /Devices/Server/Windows is Zenoss using SNMP for the Software tab?
[16-Sep-2008 12:47:55] <epablo> tarjei: ok I'll try that
[16-Sep-2008 13:43:09] <jb> is anybody monitoring IBM xSeries boxes?
[16-Sep-2008 13:46:43] <Han> Howcome the snmpwalk command from the `run commands' menu doesn't use the port I set in the preferences
[16-Sep-2008 13:47:14] <jb> modify the command.. Settings -> Commands
[16-Sep-2008 13:47:38] <Han> lets see
[16-Sep-2008 13:49:03] <Han> jb, what have you got there?
[16-Sep-2008 14:03:16] <Han> where can I find the list with variables? I can't find it in the zenoss guide.
[16-Sep-2008 14:05:13] <Han> ``snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp}:${here/managePort} system'' fails
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:07] <jeld> hello all
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:39] <jmp242> hi jeld
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:41] <jeld> I was wondering, is there a way to have a custom script or command ran as a check and alert if it fails?
[16-Sep-2008 16:06:54] <jmp242> yes
[16-Sep-2008 16:07:34] <jeld> jmp242, for example, I would like to do network checks on some services beyond simple TCP ping
[16-Sep-2008 16:07:35] <jmp242> set it up as a command datasource
[16-Sep-2008 16:08:46] <jeld> jmp242, hmm... where is that in the interface?
[16-Sep-2008 16:10:20] <jeld> jmp242, ah! got it
[16-Sep-2008 16:10:22] <jeld> sorry
[16-Sep-2008 16:14:39] <jeld> I have a MySQL OSProcess monitored on my database servers, but it doesn't (for some reason) use the MySQL ZenPack. How do I switch it to use that?
[16-Sep-2008 16:24:28] <jmp242> Did you bind the zenpack to that server or to a class that contains the server?
[16-Sep-2008 16:31:18] <jeld> How do I bind a template to an individual server? Or even better to a group of servers?
[16-Sep-2008 16:31:59] <jeld> And is there a way to see template bindings in effect?
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:00] <jmp242> Well, for a class, you go to that class from /Devices/Server/
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:09] <jmp242> or whatever
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:20] <jmp242> and then go to templates, use the dropdown
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:25] <jmp242> and say Bind Templates
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:46] <jmp242> then using ctrl-click, you select other templates you want bound (don't want to unbind the defaults usually)
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:50] <jmp242> say OK
[16-Sep-2008 16:32:51] <jmp242> and done
[16-Sep-2008 16:33:16] <jmp242> for a specific device, you bring up the device use the dropdown, more, templates ...
[16-Sep-2008 16:33:17] <jmp242> and same
[16-Sep-2008 16:34:09] <jeld> well, I have been screwing around with template bindings and now I don't know what I have bound and where, how do I check what the actual bindings are?
[16-Sep-2008 16:36:14] <jmp242> You can find out from the same view on a class or device basis - what is pre selected is bound there
[16-Sep-2008 16:36:52] <jmp242> I'm not aware of a list that would show all classes and systems and what's bound to them on one screen
[16-Sep-2008 16:37:05] <jmp242> the forum did have a post about this several months ago that might help
[16-Sep-2008 16:37:52] <jeld> ah! so if I just click the "Bind templates" menu, whatever is selected is bound?
[16-Sep-2008 16:41:03] <jmp242> yes
[16-Sep-2008 16:46:06] <jeld> I think I just attained a higher level of ZenOSS enlightenment, thank you jmp242
[16-Sep-2008 16:47:12] <jeld> I do have another question though, how do Products work? I cannot seem to be able to map software to a device in any way
[16-Sep-2008 16:49:47] <jmp242> Mmm, I don't use Zenoss for software tracking - I think all that info is set by what SNMP shows
[16-Sep-2008 16:49:56] <jmp242> that is, set via SNMP from the client
[16-Sep-2008 16:52:10] <jeld> jmp242, yes, I thought it would, but it doesn't seem to do that
[16-Sep-2008 16:52:12] <jeld> anyway
[16-Sep-2008 17:08:19] <jeld> hmm... after messing with templates the Perf page crashes on all devices...
[16-Sep-2008 17:36:25] <jeld> seems like FileSystem template is broken
[16-Sep-2008 17:37:32] <jeld> it expects hrStorageUsed to be in %, but it is actually number of used blocks
[16-Sep-2008 17:38:34] <`m3> i make a transform to reformat it , google on it theres plenty
[16-Sep-2008 17:38:39] <`m3> i agree the default sucks btw
[16-Sep-2008 17:39:37] <jeld> `m3, interesting, I am looking in the forums at the moment. I would need to add some extra datapoints and THEN do a transform I guess
[16-Sep-2008 17:44:42] <`m3> is it like that from a latest install ?
[16-Sep-2008 17:44:53] <`m3> i upgraded , i think its causing me lots of old issues
[16-Sep-2008 17:45:05] <`m3> might actually reinstall / reimport the data
[16-Sep-2008 17:45:34] <jeld> 2.2.3 fresh from RPM
[16-Sep-2008 17:45:35] <`m3> but i want to make sure that transforms and user preferences are saved
[16-Sep-2008 17:47:26] <jeld> `m3, BTW, do you know, if it is smart enough to figure out lists of values? I mean HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrStorageUsed is a list of used blocks in all file systems
[16-Sep-2008 17:53:18] <`m3> for me 100% blocks =100% full time
[16-Sep-2008 17:54:28] <jeld> this is my problem
http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425[16-Sep-2008 17:56:55] <jeld> ${here/totalBlocks},/,100,*
[16-Sep-2008 17:57:04] <jeld> this looks weird
[16-Sep-2008 17:57:19] <jeld> WTF is here
[16-Sep-2008 18:00:34] <jeld> this is fascinating... if I go to the OS page for the device and click on the file system, I see the graphs and all... but not if I go to Perf page
[16-Sep-2008 18:02:02] <jmp242> perf page isn't supposed to show the filesystem graphs
[16-Sep-2008 18:02:21] <jmp242> I don't know why, but the design is that memory/cpu and stuff you add goes to perf
[16-Sep-2008 18:02:37] <jmp242> filesystem, NIC go on links from OS page
[16-Sep-2008 18:07:52] <jeld> jmp242, well, it still crashes the Perf page if I bind the FileSystem template
[16-Sep-2008 18:11:41] <jmp242> you should not bind the filesystem template
[16-Sep-2008 18:11:52] <jmp242> that gets chosed automatically by Zenoss
[16-Sep-2008 18:13:52] <jmp242> See:
[16-Sep-2008 18:13:53] <jmp242> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/how-zenoss-chooses-templates
[16-Sep-2008 18:14:06] <adytum-bot> Title: How Zenoss Chooses Templates - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 18:27:31] <`m3> jeld, the stack trace is there when there is no error handling i guess
[16-Sep-2008 18:27:34] <`m3> or less .
[16-Sep-2008 18:28:36] <jeld>
[16-Sep-2008 18:28:41] <jeld> thanx
[16-Sep-2008 18:29:48] <`m3> yw
[16-Sep-2008 18:45:20] <mshundal> hiyas, trying to setup a filesystem util report but filesystem class objects like totalBytesString and usedBytesString are returning UNKNOWN
[16-Sep-2008 18:45:49] <mshundal> anyone know if something else needs to be done before these variable will work?
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:23] <isotope> is there a way to specify multiple community strings?
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:42] <mshundal> yes, zProperties
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:50] <isotope> I have some devices with public but many with a custom readonly string
[16-Sep-2008 18:48:55] <isotope> for devices?
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:07] <mshundal> er in that case divide their path
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:07] <isotope> got it
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:28] <mshundal> so say /devices/pubstring/manage set public here
[16-Sep-2008 18:49:32] <mshundal> etc
[16-Sep-2008 18:50:36] <isotope> so zSnmpCommunity = public/custom
[16-Sep-2008 18:50:53] <isotope> or just list multiple strings in zSnmpCommunities
[16-Sep-2008 18:52:32] <mshundal> im not sure of how it looks for the communities in zSNMPCommunites vs ZSNMPCommunity right below it
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:05] <isotope> yeah not sure what the difference between communities and comminity
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:10] <mshundal> 2nd one might just be default and top one a list to try but deviding the path will work for sure
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:20] <mshundal> divinding*
[16-Sep-2008 18:53:32] <mshundal> ie my linux servers use a diff string than windows
[16-Sep-2008 18:54:10] <mshundal> so /devices/server/linux has a diff string in zproperties than /devices/server/windows
[16-Sep-2008 18:59:23] <isotope> Ah ha
[16-Sep-2008 18:59:32] <isotope> found several posts about this in the forum
[16-Sep-2008 18:59:41] <isotope> glad I'm not the only one confused :-0
[16-Sep-2008 19:00:36] <isotope> found the answer here http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2215&highlight=zsnmpcommunities
[16-Sep-2008 19:01:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Discover devices with snmp community name other than public (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 19:01:10] <isotope> zSnmpCommunities, just list all of the community strings here and zenoss will try them all when modeling
[16-Sep-2008 19:11:54] <sn1ffer72> guys not sure how to post to the the blog on that misuse of builtins issue from yesterday
[16-Sep-2008 19:13:25] <jeld> What is a service key under service properties?
[16-Sep-2008 19:14:40] <isotope> is there a way to batch model
[16-Sep-2008 19:15:44] <jeld> isotope, yes
[16-Sep-2008 19:15:52] <jeld> isotope, su - zenoss
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:00] <jeld> for i in server1 server2; do zendisc run --now -d $i --monitor localhost --remodel; done
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:16] <isotope> perfect
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:17] <isotope> thanks
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:19] <jeld> or some such
[16-Sep-2008 19:16:37] <jeld> well, that would be remodeling, so for first time modeling you would need a slightly different command line
[16-Sep-2008 19:30:49] <mshundal> theres a better one
[16-Sep-2008 19:31:30] <mshundal> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/loading-a-list-of-devices-from-a-file/
[16-Sep-2008 19:31:48] <adytum-bot> Title: Loading a List of Devices From a File - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 19:39:48] <mshundal> anyone have any ideas on this:http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[16-Sep-2008 19:40:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Sep-2008 19:52:30] <mshundal> this is like mission immposible
[16-Sep-2008 19:56:11] <jeld> this is weird... I was trying to figure out why SSH service doesn't get mapped by IpServiceMap. Seems like SNMP reports port 22 in state timeWait instead of listening
[16-Sep-2008 19:56:20] <jeld> anyone encountered this?
[16-Sep-2008 22:06:01] <uwe> hello, how to monitor service from behind a proxy ?
[16-Sep-2008 22:19:54] <jeld> best bet would be over SSH or some such
[16-Sep-2008 22:20:33] <jeld> that is provided you can configure the proxy and do tunnel over HTTP
[16-Sep-2008 22:23:22] <uwe> jeld, isnt there a way to do it without accessing the remote machine ? or the proxy ?
[16-Sep-2008 22:26:23] <jeld> uwe, well, you need some sort of feedback, I mean you need to run some sort of a test and receive results
[16-Sep-2008 22:27:15] <jeld> the best you can do is schedule regular checks on the remote system itself and send the results back to the monitoring host
[16-Sep-2008 22:28:26] <jeld> uwe, in any case, if you are not in control of the remote system and the proxy, should you be really monitoring it?
[16-Sep-2008 22:29:41] <uwe> um, jeld, well, the scenario is as follows, my zenoss is in local network, i want to monitor a webserver with a public ip ... i/
[16-Sep-2008 22:30:47] <uwe> im still trying to configure zenoss, zabbix and nagios to do some recomendation , so i
[16-Sep-2008 22:30:57] <uwe> sorry ... i hit enter by accident
[16-Sep-2008 22:31:33] <jeld> uwe, well, nagios can do "if we receive a signal we are OK" sort of thing, so if the remote system can send stuff back you should be fine
[16-Sep-2008 22:32:16] <jeld> I am relatively new to ZenOSS and I spent quite a bit of time with zabbix
[16-Sep-2008 22:32:43] <uwe> well, i can actually communicate with the webserver ... using lynx or wget for example ! if i set http_proxy
[16-Sep-2008 22:33:27] <uwe> so i can see if its up or not ... by getting the expected page for example !
[16-Sep-2008 22:33:34] <jeld> so, you are trying to monitor a web server. Do you just need to monitor HTTP or do you want other stuff?
[16-Sep-2008 22:33:53] <uwe> no, just http for now !
[16-Sep-2008 22:34:31] <jeld> well, you might not want a complicated system like zabbix or nagios or especially ZenOSS (which is complex even compared to the first two)
[16-Sep-2008 22:35:20] <uwe> oh, you mean generally ... i do, i need to monitor network infrastructure and various services, but on that machine, i just want to monitor HTTP
[16-Sep-2008 22:35:22] <jeld> why don't you just setup a script that would download a page from the server and email you if it fails and run it from cron every minute
[16-Sep-2008 22:35:30] <jeld> I do this with one of my database servers
[16-Sep-2008 22:37:08] <jeld> I think nagios http plugins might have proxy support, if not it should be easy to write your own. in ZenOSS you can setup a data source that gets values by running a command, zabbix had some web site specific monitoring, not sure how good it is with proxies
[16-Sep-2008 22:38:26] <uwe> ok, thank you jeld, Ill take a look at that ! thank you !
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[17-Sep-2008 02:40:18] <emnaki> I'm having snmpwalk to localhost saying that it can't find the modules. Anyone know what could be the matter?
[17-Sep-2008 02:42:10] <emnaki> the system is a windows 2003 DC by the way.
[17-Sep-2008 02:48:12] <emnaki> my command is: snmpwalk -v 2c -c public localhost
[17-Sep-2008 02:48:36] <emnaki> I get a list of cannot find modules like this: Cannot find module (IP-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
[17-Sep-2008 02:49:16] <emnaki> finally this error occurs: Error in packet. Reason: (genError) A general failure occured. Failed object: iso.3.6.1.2.1 iso.3.6.1.2.1 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
[17-Sep-2008 03:04:25] <emnaki> When I tried to walk from another computer it gives me:
[17-Sep-2008 03:04:41] <emnaki> Error in packet. Reason: (genError) A general failure occured Failed object: SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2
[17-Sep-2008 03:04:49] <emnaki> SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2 = No Such Object available on this agent at this OID
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[17-Sep-2008 08:13:25] <Han> I want to add a new datasource for a device on which snmp is running on 16161 and whenever I want to test it the firewall logs show it's hitting 161 and not 16161
[17-Sep-2008 08:13:42] <Han> How do I fix that or is this a known bug?
[17-Sep-2008 11:05:23] <uwe> hello, i have zenoss installed for debian etch, im getting "missing rdd file" in the graphs ! i have looked into the mailing list and i have all services running
[17-Sep-2008 11:05:50] <uwe> any idea what it can be the problem?
[17-Sep-2008 11:20:26] <Han> How do I change the OID of a certain test? It's got a different OID on another machine.
[17-Sep-2008 12:05:47] <jmp242> Han: you'd need to create a local copy of the template and edit the SNMP datasource
[17-Sep-2008 12:21:52] <asachs> Is there a way to get zenoss to bulk walk snmp queries, currently i am getting about 500 separate queries to each host every 3 minutes.
[17-Sep-2008 12:25:41] <jmp242> I believe Zenoss already does some combining of SNMP queries, but it of course depends on if you're using command datasources doing SNMPWalk or using the built in SNMP poller via Twisted IIRC
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:34] <asachs> jmp242: its a stock install - so I would assume its Twisted, my syslog entries tell me that there are just under 500 UDP connections every 3 minutes ( in the space of 4 seconds)
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:34] <jmp242> Look at zMaxOIDPerRequest for the device, if you increase that, I believe Zenoss will combine more requests per packet
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:50] <asachs> jmp242: neat thanks - will have a look at that
[17-Sep-2008 12:27:59] <jmp242> some Cisco devices have issues with this though
[17-Sep-2008 12:28:16] <jmp242> default is 40
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:24] <Han> jmp242, found it, and killed a graph on the way.
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:29] <Han> I love zenoss
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:35] <asachs> jmp242: no cisco on the network - so safe there
[17-Sep-2008 12:29:40] <Han> </sarcasm>
[17-Sep-2008 12:31:56] <jmp242> yes, if you change the datasource, the graph is going to get re-generated . . . you might actually need to (for that device) delete the rrd file in the perf folder so it can be re-created correctly
[17-Sep-2008 12:42:46] <Han> jmp242, I just did that, how can I recreate the rrd file?
[17-Sep-2008 12:44:07] <jmp242> Zenoss ought to do that automatically as it polls
[17-Sep-2008 12:47:10] <Han> That's what I hoped as well. This is way bewond the average time to see what an application is about.
[17-Sep-2008 12:48:42] <jmp242> Well, I suppose it depends on the app
[17-Sep-2008 12:49:07] <Han> I go to the device, hit more->templates, hit the template that has the graph and then what should I do?
[17-Sep-2008 12:49:33] <jmp242> I'm lost - what are you trying to do here?
[17-Sep-2008 12:49:39] <jmp242> change the OID?
[17-Sep-2008 12:50:20] <Han> Get the graph back... Amazing, I don't know what I did but it just returned.
[17-Sep-2008 12:50:29] <Han> Lets see if I can recall what I did
[17-Sep-2008 12:52:09] <Han> That would not make the gnome human interface guidelines.
[17-Sep-2008 12:52:56] <uwe> im trying to monitor http service, i unable to add service, so i follwed this hint : http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24757 .. but i cant see its being monitored anywhere !!!
[17-Sep-2008 12:53:12] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Unable to add an IP SERVICE (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 12:54:15] <Han> jmp242, I just reproduced the procedure to my manager. We were both laughing out loud.
[17-Sep-2008 12:54:23] <Han> rediculous
[17-Sep-2008 12:54:46] <jmp242> which procedure? The template?
[17-Sep-2008 12:55:28] <jmp242> uwe: so were you able to add the IP service or not after the patch?
[17-Sep-2008 12:55:56] <jmp242> If you are hitting that bug and cannot add the service, it won't be monitored
[17-Sep-2008 12:56:49] <uwe> thats what i cant tell ... the issue was that i could only select protocol (tcp/udp) after patch, i can select it and hit enter ... but seems tno to be added @
[17-Sep-2008 12:57:56] <jmp242> Usually, Zenoss will pick up http port 80 automatically on model
[17-Sep-2008 12:58:09] <jmp242> In the OS tab, does an IP Service header even show up?
[17-Sep-2008 12:59:11] <uwe> well, its not pingable
[17-Sep-2008 12:59:15] <uwe> maybe thats why
[17-Sep-2008 13:01:52] <jmp242> Yea - if the device is down, as checked via ping, I don't think additional tests get done
[17-Sep-2008 13:07:55] <uwe> can i stop the ping test jmp242 ?
[17-Sep-2008 13:09:21] <jmp242> yes, I think you change the zPingMonitorIgnore to true
[17-Sep-2008 13:09:36] <jmp242> Then you can just use SNMP
[17-Sep-2008 13:09:41] <jmp242> or whatever
[17-Sep-2008 13:15:06] <uwe> im trying to do that ! but i cant do it for a single device ! can do it on the device class though! and trying to follow this http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-disable-ping-checks/ but i dont have monitors under management menu !
[17-Sep-2008 13:15:21] <adytum-bot> Title: How to Disable Ping Checks - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 13:17:48] <uwe> this is only available for commercial version ??
[17-Sep-2008 13:18:52] <jmp242> I have monitors under the management menu on 2.1.2 . . . Try in zProperties for the device, from the dropdown menu, more ...
[17-Sep-2008 13:21:29] <Han> I got a server running squid. It's already added with the 161 port, and now I want to add it with port 3401 as well. But if I do that it get lost and thinks I meant the one on 161.
[17-Sep-2008 13:21:31] <uwe> oh ! there ! thanks jmp242 ...
found it [17-Sep-2008 13:21:39] <Han> How should I deal with that?
[17-Sep-2008 13:25:10] <mshundal> anyone have any ideas on this? => http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[17-Sep-2008 13:25:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 13:40:04] <jmp242> Han: I'm not sure, are you trying to just monitor both ports, or are you trying to have 2 servers at the same IP?
[17-Sep-2008 13:41:43] <Han> Either solution would be fine.
[17-Sep-2008 13:42:00] <Han> This is also practical incase of port-forwarding.
[17-Sep-2008 13:51:56] <jmp242> Zenoss currently doesn't manage more than one device per IP, so virtual hosts just don't work as far as I can tell
[17-Sep-2008 13:52:19] <jmp242> But you can always add an IP service at a different port for up/down monitoring at the OS tab of the device
[17-Sep-2008 14:23:15] <Han> ok.
[17-Sep-2008 14:26:34] <Han> both the upd and tcp option don't result in being able to hit ok.
[17-Sep-2008 14:31:15] <jmp242> Did you see the post on the patch?
[17-Sep-2008 14:31:21] <jmp242> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24757
[17-Sep-2008 14:31:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Unable to add an IP SERVICE (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 14:35:55] <mshundal> anyone have any ideas on this? => http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[17-Sep-2008 14:36:13] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 15:45:57] <uwe> hello ... again
, how do you people treat the case when you have a machine with multiple interfaces and multiple ips ? i have defined the interfaces with their ips in OS>IpInterfaces ... should i delete the devices detected by zenoss with the ips on the interfaces ? can i associate a device as if it was an alias of another device or something similar, i just dont know whats the best practice here, any input would be valuable [17-Sep-2008 15:48:44] <jmp242> uwe - I don't ... Zenoss doesn't handle multiple IPs per device right now
[17-Sep-2008 15:49:16] <uwe> jmp242, so i should monitor each ip as a seperate device ...
[17-Sep-2008 15:49:40] <mshundal> isnt it populating your OS tab with all the IPs you have?
[17-Sep-2008 15:51:59] <uwe> mshundal, no, im not connecting to the machines using ssh or anything ... i suppose this is required in order it would do that ..
[17-Sep-2008 15:53:31] <uwe> well, how do you do it mshundal for windows machines for example, if you had an AD and users authenticate to it, you add a user to AD only for zenoss ... if yes, with what permissions, what is the minimum required permissions, if this is not the case, please enlighten me ...
[17-Sep-2008 15:53:37] <mshundal> not at all, my webservers have upto 20 IPs associated across 2-3 NICs
[17-Sep-2008 15:53:53] <mshundal> they all auto populate when you model the device, and there are windows servers so no ssh anyways
[17-Sep-2008 15:54:09] <mshundal> owwwwwwww
[17-Sep-2008 15:55:14] <mshundal> what you need to do is configure this utility account to have proper WMI access to the monitored machines (that what I use anyways as most of my windows machines use the WMI zenpack)
[17-Sep-2008 15:55:38] <mshundal> i think there are instructions on how to do this on the forum
[17-Sep-2008 16:12:08] <uwe> thank you mshundal , i think i found it ... following instructions !!
[17-Sep-2008 16:12:19] <mshundal> cheers
[17-Sep-2008 16:28:27] <mshundal> ack anyone know what vars i need to call in a report for zenoss to return available and used space on a drive? ref: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7340
[17-Sep-2008 16:28:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - filesystem class objects (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 16:40:12] <uwe> mshundal, sorry to ask many questions, but my windows background is very shallow, did you install snmp informant on you windows machines ? what was also required to install on your zenoss host ? im asking because i get missing RDD files , so i found this : http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6856&view=next&sid=9437704b67eacc2032d101d922b3100a
[17-Sep-2008 16:40:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Missing RDD Files With WMI Monitoring (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Sep-2008 16:40:41] <mshundal> woa missing rrd files is actually good right now
[17-Sep-2008 16:41:01] <mshundal> give it a cycle for it to query the data and create the files
[17-Sep-2008 16:41:25] <mshundal> as per informant - no, started looking at zenoss just cuz i didnt want ANY software on the target servers
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:00] <uwe> so you are relaying on snmpv2 ...
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:06] <mshundal> v1
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:10] <mshundal> read-only
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:28] <uwe> i see, thank you for your input mshundal
[17-Sep-2008 16:42:54] <mshundal> np, as for the zen host, needed these to get it to compile
[17-Sep-2008 16:43:25] <mshundal> (debian minimal install to beging with) make gcc g++ patch bzip2 less autoconf swig snmpd dns-browse python2.5 mysql-server-5.0 libmysqlclient15-dev
[17-Sep-2008 16:43:42] <jeld> What is the function of "Service Keys"? Can I define my own version of a service or move a service from standard location?
[17-Sep-2008 16:43:51] <uwe> well, i installed it as provided from zenoss for debian, not from scratch ...
[17-Sep-2008 16:44:34] <mshundal> wasnt an option for me, am running it on a HP DL360 (1 GHz) lol
[17-Sep-2008 16:44:41] <uwe> i will probably build the next zenoss against packs provided from debian , but im still exploring zenoss
[17-Sep-2008 16:45:37] <uwe>
my current is a PIII with 1GHz too [17-Sep-2008 16:47:06] <mshundal> lol yea in that case just run with minimal, its not bad at all except when i finaly did a batch load
[17-Sep-2008 17:26:16] <jmp242> Wow - just a PIII 1Ghz?
[17-Sep-2008 17:26:40] <jmp242> Our test systems are P4 2.4Ghz...
[17-Sep-2008 18:09:14] <mshundal> lol
[17-Sep-2008 18:09:40] <mshundal> yep, just 1 ghz, then again i just wanna monitor 80 or so servers
[17-Sep-2008 22:37:03] <isotope> how do I associate a zenpack with a group of devices?
[17-Sep-2008 22:45:49] <jeld> isotope, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[17-Sep-2008 22:45:53] <isotope> I created a sub device of /server/linux
[17-Sep-2008 22:46:24] <isotope> and want to add a http check to all the hosts in the sub device
[17-Sep-2008 22:46:40] <isotope> rather than one device at a time
[17-Sep-2008 22:47:05] <jeld> hmm
[17-Sep-2008 22:47:12] <Linux50> Question. i was looking at the cisco mib's and I noticed that all the files have a .my extension.
[17-Sep-2008 22:47:22] <Linux50> Are they different than the .mib extensions?
[17-Sep-2008 22:49:18] <jeld> isotope, OK, I am not an expert, but here is how this works, when your device gets modeled, it picks up a list of services and processes (if you do SNMP or SSH modeling that is) and then if you have appropriate entries under /Services and /Processes they will get associated with the device
[17-Sep-2008 22:49:58] <isotope> but lets say I have a group of hosts that run a web service that I want to monitor
[17-Sep-2008 22:50:00] <jeld> isotope, for the class under /Device you can choose which modeling plugins are used for modeling the device
[17-Sep-2008 22:50:12] <jeld> isotope, OK
[17-Sep-2008 22:51:17] <isotope> looking
[17-Sep-2008 22:51:41] <Linux50> jeld, Question on that topic. If i install an mib for lets say a device like dell poweredge. And My dell poweredge has already been added to zenoss. Do I have to do something else besides add the mib to zenoss?
[17-Sep-2008 22:51:49] <jeld> isotope, create new subclass under /Device/Server/Linux, go to /Services/IpService/reserved/http and make sure Monitor property is set to true
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:04] <isotope> Ah, so I see it enherits templates from the classes upstream
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:07] <jeld> isotope, if you want a process, create a process under /Processes
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:41] <jeld> isotope, then go to the web server subclass you created and from the menu choose modeling plugins
[17-Sep-2008 22:52:51] <jeld> isotope, and choose whatever you think is right for your hosts
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:03] <jeld> isotope, then move your devices under the new class and push changes
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:19] <jeld> Linux50, shouldn't have to
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:36] <Linux50> Any idea on the .my extension
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:40] <jeld> Linux50, it should, if everything works, just start using names (and let you use names)
[17-Sep-2008 22:53:50] <Linux50> use names?
[17-Sep-2008 22:54:17] <jeld> Linux50, all a MIB does is map OIDs to semi-sensible names
[17-Sep-2008 22:54:44] <Linux50> thats it?
[17-Sep-2008 22:54:59] <Linux50> okay....
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:10] <jeld> Linux50, so for example when I get an SNMP trap from one of my load balancers it says snTrapL4RealServerPortDown instead of 1.3.6.1.4.1.1991.0.22
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:29] <jeld> or some such
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:34] <Linux50> okay. makes sense
[17-Sep-2008 22:57:51] <Linux50> Any idea on the .my extension?
[17-Sep-2008 22:58:21] <jeld> Linux50, not really, don't have any CISCO hardware around here
[17-Sep-2008 22:58:43] <jeld> but basically if it is not a MIB, zenmib will not eat it
[17-Sep-2008 22:58:55] <Linux50> okay
[17-Sep-2008 22:59:35] <jeld> in the HP MIB package there are .mib and .cfg files for everything
[17-Sep-2008 22:59:43] <jeld> for whatever reason
[17-Sep-2008 23:00:17] <Linux50> so what do you do with the cfg file
[17-Sep-2008 23:00:18] <Linux50> lol
[17-Sep-2008 23:05:44] <jeld> nothing, just leave it be
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[18-Sep-2008 14:39:08] <nemo2> Waiting one more cycle period - can i avoid ever waiting for a device ?
[18-Sep-2008 14:39:27] <nemo2> these two servers out of 900 spoil it for everyone
[18-Sep-2008 14:50:36] <Cardeal> someone could explain what I mean the error "timeout connecting to zenhub: is it running?"
[18-Sep-2008 14:52:13] <mshundal> i've see this all the time when running under a high load average
[18-Sep-2008 14:52:26] <mshundal> doesnt affect the modeling/remodeling process however
[18-Sep-2008 14:52:47] <mshundal> of course that assuming the zenhub daemon is actually running
[18-Sep-2008 14:56:33] <Cardeal> thanks
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:12] <mshundal> np
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:28] <mshundal> 11 AM EDT - eastern time right?
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:37] <mshundal> ow wait, sept 25 lol
[18-Sep-2008 14:58:59] <mshundal> awesome
[18-Sep-2008 15:12:51] <mshundal> hmm forums are still screwed if you try to login
[18-Sep-2008 18:18:47] <Linux50> Hello everyone.... I have an event in my zenoss under the even class of /status/ping. This event is constantly trying to ping vux.bos.netsolhost.com (205.178.145.65). The message is "ip 205.178.145.65 is down". The Event Group is "Ping" the Agent is "Zenping". I never told zenoss to monitor the host or ip address. This seems to be a fantom device/event. I cant get it to stop trying to ping it. What can I do?
[18-Sep-2008 18:47:28] <Nate187> find that device and under its zproperties set zpingmonitor to ignore
[18-Sep-2008 18:48:35] <Nate187> actually, its the zpingmonitorignore attribut and set it to true
[18-Sep-2008 18:53:39] <Linux50> There is no device
[18-Sep-2008 18:53:57] <Linux50> I never told zenoss to ping that.
[18-Sep-2008 18:54:10] <jmp242> Did you do a discovery run?
[18-Sep-2008 18:54:41] <Linux50> probably not since I dont know what that is. Or even how to do it
[18-Sep-2008 18:55:12] <Linux50> In the Event Console screen. The event in question has a colum called "Component"
[18-Sep-2008 18:55:37] <Linux50> its blank
[18-Sep-2008 18:55:56] <Linux50> Device colum comes up as vux.bos.netsolhost.com
[18-Sep-2008 18:56:00] <Linux50> but when I click it
[18-Sep-2008 18:56:20] <Linux50> I get a blank screen. That device does not exist in my "Device List"
[18-Sep-2008 18:56:29] <Linux50> so I cant get to the zproperties
[18-Sep-2008 18:58:27] <jmp242> hmmm
[18-Sep-2008 18:59:01] <jmp242> you can, I think, remove the entry directly from the database, though I've only seen that posted on the forums how to do so. They are down right now, but take a look when they come up
[18-Sep-2008 18:59:43] <Linux50> where is the database?
[18-Sep-2008 18:59:48] <Linux50> Mysql database?
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:11] <jmp242> I think it's a zope database (and MySQL)
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:13] <jmp242> there's 2
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:34] <Linux50> my Mysql database is empty.... this Zenoss installation is not using Mysql
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:46] <jmp242> how is it not using MySQL?
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:57] <jmp242> are you forwarding all events to a central server?
[18-Sep-2008 19:01:57] <Linux50> im looking right at it.
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:11] <Linux50> during install it asked for my root password which is the mysql password.
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:17] <jmp242> did you use a stack installer?
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:22] <Linux50> yes
[18-Sep-2008 19:02:32] <jmp242> I think that installs it's own instance of MySQL
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:02] <Linux50> serious?
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:07] <jmp242> yes
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:07] <Linux50> let me do a ps aux
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:26] <jmp242> Zenoss saves events in a MySQL database, so for you to get events, you have to have it using one somewhere
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:47] <Linux50> wow.... Your right..
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:54] <jmp242> but it keeps other attributes in a Zope database
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:55] <Linux50> very intereting
[18-Sep-2008 19:03:57] <jmp242> so there are 2
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:07] <jmp242> I know nothing about Zope, so I'm no help on that part
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:08] <Linux50> Is there a way to view whats in the zope database
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:15] <Linux50> like a phpZopeAdmin
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:17] <Linux50> lol
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:24] <jmp242> mmm, there is a management interface to zope
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:25] <zanaga> add /manage to the url
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:44] <Linux50> asking for a pass
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:59] <Linux50> wow
[18-Sep-2008 19:04:59] <zanaga> but be careful while roaming around
[18-Sep-2008 19:05:04] <Linux50> very nice
[18-Sep-2008 19:05:42] <Linux50> well.... Im in there
[18-Sep-2008 19:05:46] <zanaga> also, you might need to use zendmd to delete some entries because the web interface uses the same interfaces to delete stuff that zenoss normally uses. (which means it's safer)
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:00] <jmp242> right, that's it zendmd ...
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:08] <jmp242> I just don't recall the incantations
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:14] <jmp242> Chet would know, but he's not here
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:23] <theacolyte> I'm sure you know this, but zenoss.com is down
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:32] <jmp242> yea, I noticed
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:41] <jmp242> But the mailing list is working
[18-Sep-2008 19:06:48] <zanaga> you need to locate the right path and then use .removeObject() afair
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:08] <zanaga> i did some major cleaning up on our database like that
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:10] <Linux50> what are they doing with the site?
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:13] <theacolyte> Question though, since I can't read it - iirc, Zenoss uses agents to collect WMI data from Windows machines, right?
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:18] <jmp242> no
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:22] <theacolyte> ah it's back up now
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:24] <jmp242> zenoss uses WMI calls
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:31] <theacolyte> Got it
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:32] <jmp242> via wmic or winexec
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:34] <theacolyte> WMI would work in my case
[18-Sep-2008 19:07:53] <jmp242> well, winexec just runs stuff, but wmic is what does WMI calls
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:08] <jmp242> it just needs a service account that has admin access - well at least DCOM and WMI
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:16] <theacolyte> Yeah, that I can provide
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:48] <theacolyte> what's the latest version?
[18-Sep-2008 19:08:59] <theacolyte> website just tanked ggain
[18-Sep-2008 19:09:30] <theacolyte> bah, doesn't matter, vmware appliance link just goes back to zenoss.com
[18-Sep-2008 19:11:10] <theacolyte> So here's a theoretical for you
[18-Sep-2008 19:11:52] <theacolyte> If I have servers in a colo facility with no VPN link, whatever (I could set one up, I guess) and I wanted to monitor it from thsi office, along with all my servers in each office, PLUS the connection to the colo - could I do that
[18-Sep-2008 19:12:02] <theacolyte> I guess what I'm talking about is distributed monitoring
[18-Sep-2008 19:13:04] <Linux50> zanaga, i cant find anything regarding zenping
[18-Sep-2008 19:13:32] <zanaga> Linux50: what is your problem? what are you trying to solve?
[18-Sep-2008 19:13:45] <zanaga> (i didn't pay attention to the first part of the conversation)
[18-Sep-2008 19:14:07] <Linux50> I have an event in my zenoss under the even class of /status/ping. This event is constantly trying to ping vux.bos.netsolhost.com (205.178.145.65). The message is "ip 205.178.145.65 is down". The Event Group is "Ping" the Agent is "Zenping". I never told zenoss to monitor the host or ip address. This seems to be a fantom device/event. I cant get it to stop trying to ping it. What can I do?
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:01] <zanaga> if you try to enter 205.178.145.65 to the search box does it bring up a host?
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:02] <jmp242> theacolyte: you might be able to with Zenoss Enterprise
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:18] <theacolyte> hmmm
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:26] <jmp242> Otherwise, you'd need to do a lot of guesswork and reading the forums etc, for getting the distributed monitoring working
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:40] <jmp242> basically, you would need a VPN would be easiest
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:46] <Linux50> nothing comes back
[18-Sep-2008 19:15:51] <jmp242> from one server, but if you wanted separate servers
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:00] <theacolyte> hmm
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:05] <theacolyte> vpn wouldn't be hard to set up at all
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:08] <zanaga> Linux50: i'd guess that the index is hosed then.. ok, try this
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:16] <jmp242> you could try a second Zenoss install that reports back to the main one
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:30] <jmp242> the problem is I'm not sure how hard it would be to get the connections SSLed, rather than http
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:36] <jmp242> so VPN is of course easier
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:37] <Linux50> This has occurred on three different install (although on the same machine).
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:44] <theacolyte> Will Zenoss auto-email reports?
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:53] <jmp242> you set up alert rules?
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:55] <theacolyte> Like nightly statistics, not just HOST DOWN
[18-Sep-2008 19:16:56] <jmp242> mmm
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:01] <jmp242> not sure
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:01] <zanaga> Linux50: log in to the zenoss host with ssh or something and switch to the zenoss user
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:04] <jmp242> I've never tried theacolyte
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:07] <theacolyte> I would read into it, but again the site is down
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:08] <Linux50> okay
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:13] <theacolyte> I could get away with that I think
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:19] <Linux50> im there
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:35] <jmp242> I think there is a way, the forums have talked a little on this, but I haven't found much docs/shared code yet on it
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:48] <zanaga> Linux50: run zendmd and type in reindex()
[18-Sep-2008 19:17:50] <jmp242> then again, I'm not currently extending Zenoss at work either
[18-Sep-2008 19:18:00] <zanaga> Linux50: once that finishes run commit()
[18-Sep-2008 19:19:31] <Linux50> okay done
[18-Sep-2008 19:19:47] <zanaga> Linux50: now try and enter the ip address to the search box to see if something comes up
[18-Sep-2008 19:20:15] <Linux50> negative
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:17] <jmp242> try clearing heartbeats?
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:30] <Linux50> how?
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:38] <Linux50> command line or gui
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:49] <jmp242> gui - go to event console
[18-Sep-2008 19:21:55] <jmp242> dropdown, clear all heartbeats
[18-Sep-2008 19:22:15] <zanaga> Linux50: ok.. i'm out of ideas. When i was cleaning out the database i was making it up as i went along =)
[18-Sep-2008 19:22:37] <zanaga> Linux50: if you can't find anything here.. wait until the maintenance break is over and ask on the forums
[18-Sep-2008 19:23:39] <Linux50> Well I do thank you zanaga
[18-Sep-2008 19:24:16] <zanaga> lets hope you can solve the problem
[18-Sep-2008 19:24:39] <Linux50> thanks. It real annoying.
[18-Sep-2008 19:32:49] <Linux50> zanaga, Im sorry to bug with a noob question. There is a feature called "Add to zenpack" the the /services/IPService
[18-Sep-2008 19:32:55] <Linux50> What does that do?
[18-Sep-2008 19:35:39] <zanaga> Linux50: it adds a service listed there to a zenpack so that you can export it later
[18-Sep-2008 19:35:56] <jmp242> zenpacks are like plugins to Zenoss
[18-Sep-2008 19:36:04] <jmp242> they add monitoring capabilities, or other things
[18-Sep-2008 19:44:01] <Linux50> I just added a service to be monitored named tcp_08000 using port 8000. Oracle E-Biz Suite Web
[18-Sep-2008 19:44:22] <Linux50> Do I have to remodel the device that will be using that port?
[18-Sep-2008 20:32:09] <johns55> hey guys..anyone know how to configure a threshold you use another OID as it's max value?
[18-Sep-2008 20:47:18] <run|sony> any reason no windows installer?
[18-Sep-2008 21:54:11] <rbw> Hello!
[18-Sep-2008 21:54:22] <rbw> I'm trying to setup Zenoss to use distributed monitoring
[18-Sep-2008 21:56:36] <rbw> I've configured the necessary daemons to use the master server as hubhost, the node doesn't however pass the --hub-host parameter when i.e. adding a new device, hence it's using localhost instead of the remote server as hubhost. I'm using the 'hubhost' directive in the daemon configurations. has someone got a solution for this?
[18-Sep-2008 21:57:46] <rbw> I'd rather not hack the source code
[18-Sep-2008 21:59:38] <run|sony> ugh.. looks like i need nagios to install zenoss?
[18-Sep-2008 22:01:56] <rbw> run|sony: why'd you need nagios to install zenoss?
[18-Sep-2008 22:03:01] <run|sony> rather.. during the build its trying to build nagios plugins
[18-Sep-2008 22:03:32] <run|sony> and crapping out
[18-Sep-2008 22:03:57] <run|sony> http://pastebin.com/m6719886b
[18-Sep-2008 22:04:04] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[18-Sep-2008 22:04:29] <run|sony> thats annoying
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:01] <rbw> run|sony: paste ./configure --help please
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:16] <run|sony> running the ./install.sh
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:19] <kgoedtel> debian?
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:35] <run|sony> yes
[18-Sep-2008 22:05:37] <run|sony> ubutnu
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:04] <run|sony> the reason i installed zenoss is to not use nagios
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:17] <kgoedtel> you don't 'need' those
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:28] <run|sony> ah so it installed?
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:30] * run|sony goes to check
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:33] <kgoedtel> they just make them avaiable for custom commands
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:39] <kgoedtel> available*
[18-Sep-2008 22:06:52] <run|sony> if its optional.. shouldnt it supress and not crap out the install?
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:00] <run|sony> starting it up
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:10] <kgoedtel> they get used for a couple things by default
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:14] <kgoedtel> like ping check
[18-Sep-2008 22:07:25] <kgoedtel> the command
[18-Sep-2008 22:08:19] <run|sony> no module named simplejson ;-)
[18-Sep-2008 22:08:42] <kgoedtel> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462509
[18-Sep-2008 22:08:58] <adytum-bot> Title: #462509 - nagios-plugins: FTBFS: check_pgsql.c:71: error: 'NAMEDATALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) - Debian Bug report logs (at bugs.debian.org)
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> zenoss@ubuntu:/usr/local/zenoss$ ./bin/easy_install-2.4 simplejson
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> Traceback (most recent call last):
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> File "./bin/easy_install-2.4", line 5, in ?
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:23] <run|sony> ImportError: No module named pkg_resources
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:26] * run|sony groans
[18-Sep-2008 22:10:53] <run|sony> ahg
[18-Sep-2008 22:11:28] <rbw> run|sony: can't you just make the installer skip the nagios part?
[18-Sep-2008 22:12:08] <rbw> run|sony: paste me the installer script please
[18-Sep-2008 22:12:59] <kgoedtel> i blame ubuntu!
[18-Sep-2008 22:13:02] <run|sony> ;-)
[18-Sep-2008 22:13:18] <kgoedtel> works fine/great for me in centos :]
[18-Sep-2008 22:14:31] <run|sony> AttributeError: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[18-Sep-2008 22:15:34] <kgoedtel> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=9216
[18-Sep-2008 22:15:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - r4628, zenmodeler, zenperfsnmp and zenprocess problem (at forums.zenoss.com)
[18-Sep-2008 22:17:15] <run|sony> ok
[18-Sep-2008 22:17:36] <run|sony> the install.sh is not creating 'log' and 'etc' folders
[18-Sep-2008 22:17:59] <run|sony> maybe i need to rerun again
[18-Sep-2008 22:18:24] <run|sony> the conf files are missing from install.sh ?
[18-Sep-2008 22:18:25] <run|sony> WARN: config file /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zensyslog.conf not found skipping
[18-Sep-2008 22:19:02] <run|sony> what is this 'ip' package?
[18-Sep-2008 22:19:11] <run|sony> simplejson and ip modules are missing
[18-Sep-2008 22:21:38] <theacolyte> where do you enter in domain credentials for wmi?
[18-Sep-2008 22:21:40] <run|sony> simplejson is easy to install
[18-Sep-2008 22:28:19] <run|sony> and pyip was the other module
[18-Sep-2008 22:28:25] <run|sony> now the default conf files arent there
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:34] <kgoedtel> you hosed it!
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:40] <kgoedtel> start over lol
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:43] <run|sony> yeah
[18-Sep-2008 22:31:56] <run|sony> the sad thing is.. i didnt do anything starnge
[18-Sep-2008 22:32:07] <run|sony> just ran the install
[18-Sep-2008 22:33:37] <run|sony> why isnt it creating conf file?
[18-Sep-2008 22:33:38] <run|sony> wtf
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:10] <theacolyte> beautiful
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:16] <theacolyte> it all works
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:33] <run|sony> does it?
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:46] <run|sony> install.sh needs love
[18-Sep-2008 22:40:49] <theacolyte> wmi + snmpinformant + hp server software
[18-Sep-2008 22:42:31] <theacolyte> Now I Just need to RTFM
[18-Sep-2008 22:42:55] <run|sony> yeah im about to purchase orion i think
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:03] <theacolyte> too much $
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:14] <run|sony> not that much
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:16] <theacolyte> well, I take that back
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:22] <theacolyte> I didn't actually budget for an NMS this year
[18-Sep-2008 22:43:40] <theacolyte> so far this is working, I just need to figure how the hell to set up triggers/traps
[18-Sep-2008 22:50:03] <kgoedtel> zenoss is awesome :\
[18-Sep-2008 22:50:31] <run|sony> cute easter egg in installer
[18-Sep-2008 22:50:35] <kgoedtel> i've been using it for at least a year now and love it
[18-Sep-2008 23:36:44] <run|sony> up adn running
[18-Sep-2008 23:36:55] <run|sony> i just needed to delete nagios from makefile
[18-Sep-2008 23:37:10] <run|sony> will get one of our dev's to create patch for makefile so it ignores if nagios cant compile
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[19-Sep-2008 06:34:15] <emnaki> Does anyone have any tips as to what I should be monitoring? Zenoss is a lean mean beast, but I don't know what to use it for!
[19-Sep-2008 06:37:16] <emnaki> I'm trying to monitor active directory network btw.
[19-Sep-2008 09:05:44] <therealnemo> how are you guys managing disk full alerts ?
[19-Sep-2008 09:10:28] <tarjei_> therealnemo: ? usually I try to delete some logfiles
[19-Sep-2008 09:13:28] <therealnemo> lol
[19-Sep-2008 09:14:06] <therealnemo> i meant the std messages are silly, threshold of Free Space 90 Percent exceeded: current
[19-Sep-2008 09:14:27] <therealnemo> i know how to transform, but i just wonder if anyone has something better than me
[19-Sep-2008 10:46:23] <zanaga> therealnemo: I picked this up from somewhere: http://pastebin.com/m1b3de5d5
[19-Sep-2008 10:46:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2008 10:46:49] <zanaga> it shows the current percentage
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:32] <therealnemo> yeh that kind of thing
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:33] <therealnemo> http://pastebin.com/m411ac457
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2008 10:48:51] <therealnemo> just curious if anyone had made something better
[19-Sep-2008 10:49:48] <therealnemo> thats something from the internet, tweaked and whatever
[19-Sep-2008 10:53:12] <zanaga> I think i'll grab your description.. it's a lot better than the one i have =)
[19-Sep-2008 10:55:12] <zanaga> I dont' see the point with that last if p < 90.0: _evt.action = "drop"
[19-Sep-2008 10:55:36] <zanaga> since no events are generated for < 90 anyway
[19-Sep-2008 12:56:05] <evil_lw> greetings, I'm looking for some insight or some assistance with an issue. I've got some java processes that shut down a few hours each night while background databases are shut down. I've got a maintenance window applied to the system folder in which the servers reside scheduled for about 5 hours for the state of maintenance, yet zenoss still generates events during that time, is this standard/expected behavior?
[19-Sep-2008 15:12:17] <sn1ffer72> morning
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:01] <isotope> question on installed software for linux
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:34] <isotope> when I perform an snmpwalk it lists all of the installed rpms but they aren't showing up in zenoss
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:38] <isotope> its empty
[19-Sep-2008 18:22:54] <isotope> everything else, hardware, OS etc... is populated
[19-Sep-2008 18:24:16] <isotope> is this a template that should be collecting this
[19-Sep-2008 18:29:10] <jacksafro> when following this guide on creating device dependencies: http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/create-a-device-dependency/ it tells me to use 'id_of_application_server'. Is that the name of the device in ZenOSS, or some other ID that I retrieve from somewhere?
[19-Sep-2008 18:29:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Create a device dependency - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Sep-2008 18:38:33] <jacksafro> does anyone have device dependencies working, or a better writeup of what to do in order to get it working?
[19-Sep-2008 18:39:24] <jacksafro> i do not understand what the device_id is supposed to be. i used the name of the machine as it shows up in ZenOSS, however my dependency rule does not work.
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[21-Sep-2008 20:37:49] <KeithBilly> I've been searching around for an answear to this one but can't seem to find any helpful info. I'm trying to setup 2 servers to model over ssh, it seems zenoss is having trouble authenticating. Keeps saying there is a timeout, the ssh logs on the server say there is a timer out before the password is entered. Anyone dealt with this?
[21-Sep-2008 21:05:10] <crashdummyMCH> I know there is REST for adding a device, but is there a REST API for adding a Hardware manufacturer?
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[21-Sep-2008 22:34:01] <KeithBilly> I'm trying to modify the ip services under os for a device, but in both safari and firefox nothing happens after clicking "tcp" i would expect there is supposed to be a list of tcp_00xxx devices that will show up but the ajax doesn't seem to work.
[21-Sep-2008 22:34:30] <KeithBilly> anyone else now how to change the ip manually for an ip service?
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[22-Sep-2008 03:23:36] <Hux_ley> Has anyone encountered a segmentation fault trying to have zenoss login to mysql during the install.sh script?? I have tried the tarball and svn versions and it keeps doing it to me -- the username and password and database are correctly setup, so I'm quite confusd
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[22-Sep-2008 12:43:39] <mshundal> hux copy n paste the exact mag
[22-Sep-2008 14:17:31] <mgiammarco> Hi I am trying to let zenoss discover my server using snmp
[22-Sep-2008 14:17:58] <mgiammarco> problem is: with default snmpd.conf there is no info about hard disk partition
[22-Sep-2008 14:18:25] <mgiammarco> I have modified hdd and now with snmpwalk I can see hdd info
[22-Sep-2008 14:19:01] <mgiammarco> but zenoss discovery does not see : hdd, cpu speed, ram info, processes, etc. etc. etc.
[22-Sep-2008 14:19:28] <mgiammarco> I hoped that the zenoss discover was more easier
[22-Sep-2008 14:19:39] <mgiammarco> can someone help me?
[22-Sep-2008 14:28:01] <jmp242> mgiammarco: try setting rocommunity to public (or whatever you have Zenoss set to use)
[22-Sep-2008 14:31:38] <mgiammarco> jmp242, I have already tried the snmp troubleshoot and I have also tried rocommunity public
[22-Sep-2008 14:32:22] <mgiammarco> snmpd is open I can walk inside it but some important mibs are ignored by zenoss
[22-Sep-2008 14:33:25] <nemo_> mgiammarco, device info is loaded incremently
[22-Sep-2008 14:33:40] <nemo_> e.g. not all in the same collection, it takes a few collections to get all info on the device
[22-Sep-2008 14:35:54] <mgiammarco> nemo_ ah ok I will wait and see, perhaps tomorrow I will see also some graph?
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:15] <nemo_> should be max 30 mins
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:18] <nemo_> not days
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:27] <nemo_> 5-6 collection cycles
[22-Sep-2008 14:36:37] <nemo_> assuming a cycle of 300 seconds or so
[22-Sep-2008 14:37:06] <nemo_> if you keep remodelling a device
[22-Sep-2008 14:37:19] <nemo_> you should see "no changes" when all data is done
[22-Sep-2008 14:38:40] <mgiammarco> nemo_, where "no changes" ?
[22-Sep-2008 14:40:30] <nemo_> near the bottom of the output from modelling.
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:13] <daMaestro> is there any better documentation on making portlets then what i have found so far? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.0/ch12s07.html
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:46] <daMaestro> like, where all the functions that YAHOO.zenoss. provides
[22-Sep-2008 15:17:51] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.2.4/ch13s08.html
[22-Sep-2008 15:18:03] <mrayzenoss> the dev guide has revised a bit
[22-Sep-2008 15:18:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 15:18:13] <mrayzenoss> note the 2.2.4 vs. 2.2.0
[22-Sep-2008 15:23:02] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, so i should be reading http://mochikit.com/doc/html/MochiKit/DOM.html#creating-dom-element-trees for details on how to put custom content there?
[22-Sep-2008 15:23:15] <daMaestro> or can I just use ZPT and be happy?
[22-Sep-2008 15:23:16] <adytum-bot> Title: MochiKit.DOM - painless DOM manipulation API (at mochikit.com)
[22-Sep-2008 15:28:17] <mrayzenoss> unfortunately, I don't know the UI stuff at all
[22-Sep-2008 15:28:23] <mrayzenoss> I'll ask Ian
[22-Sep-2008 15:33:47] <jacksafro> does anyone know what the levels of 'pingStatus()' mean or where this is defined in the source?
[22-Sep-2008 15:34:30] <jacksafro> or is it just the number of times the device has failed the ping scan?
[22-Sep-2008 15:34:55] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Ian's response: Just use an iframe portlet. You can't do ZPT in javascript, obviously, but I made an iframe portlet, which google maps uses.
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:04] <mrayzenoss> Then you can do whatever the hell you want in there
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:11] <mrayzenoss> There's also an "arbitrary HTML" portlet
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:18] <mrayzenoss> so however one wishes to generate the HTML, it'll work. Doing it by directly modifying the DOM is probably the least desirable or effective way.
[22-Sep-2008 15:35:55] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, where are the lists of portlets i can use?
[22-Sep-2008 15:36:04] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, i'm developing a zenpack for webmetric right now
[22-Sep-2008 15:36:11] <KeithBilly> In freebsd you do get a segmentation fault during the install.sh script. I generally pull the zenbuildevents command and run it manually then gut the create database function and build_zenevents function. running the commands manually seems to work just fine. Somethings wrong with how it dumps it's output to the /dev/null or something else i suspect.
[22-Sep-2008 15:37:46] <mrayzenoss> daMaestro: Ian said to link at $ZENHOME/Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/GoogleMapsPortlet.js for an example of the arbitrary HTML thingy.
[22-Sep-2008 15:37:58] <daMaestro> yeah, i read the google one. thanks.
[22-Sep-2008 15:40:35] <__ian__> in re custom content in portlets
[22-Sep-2008 15:40:50] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: are you using the latest install instructions for FreeBSD?
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:03] <__ian__> here be the deal. If you take a look at the Google Maps portlet, you'll see a good example.
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:10] <KeithBilly> lastest i can find,
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:19] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: http://dev.zenoss.com/svn/trunk/zendocs/InstallGuide/pdf/InstallGuide-Core-2.2.4.pdf
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:21] <__ian__> that's at $ZENHOME/Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/GoogleMapsPortlet.js
[22-Sep-2008 15:41:41] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: we're trying to clean up our install instructions to 1 document, let me know if that doesn't work and we'll get it updated
[22-Sep-2008 15:42:16] <__ian__> Basically, a portlet comprises a portlet and a datasource. That GoogleMapsDatasource has a "get" method that just makes some html and returns it to the callback. You can do whatever you want to create that html.
[22-Sep-2008 15:43:00] <__ian__> Essentially, copy that file and change all the names, then change that get method, and you should be good to go.
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:08] <__ian__> Definitely do not want to modify the DOM directly. Let the portlet js handle that. It does purge stuff that handles the memory leaks inevitable in complex DOM manipulation.
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:25] <KeithBilly> these instructions don't look all that different from the ones i've always used from the site
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:35] <KeithBilly> nothing in here addresses mysql faulting.
[22-Sep-2008 15:45:56] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: sorry, I was just making sure you were looking at the latest we have.
[22-Sep-2008 15:46:29] <mrayzenoss> don't have a FreeBSD box myself
[22-Sep-2008 15:48:29] <KeithBilly> It's in the install-functions.sh line 65 that she dies
[22-Sep-2008 15:51:21] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=20689
[22-Sep-2008 16:00:06] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: if that works, I'll open a ticket for it because I don't see one
[22-Sep-2008 16:01:41] <KeithBilly_> well what i did was gut the function and run it's command manually minus the dev/null/ parts
[22-Sep-2008 16:01:59] <mrayzenoss> did you see my posts? you logged out
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:06] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=20689
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:09] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly: if that works, I'll open a ticket for it because I don't see one
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Intall failing (at forums.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:34] <KeithBilly_> yeh i saw them
[22-Sep-2008 16:02:43] <mrayzenoss> did that help or no?
[22-Sep-2008 16:18:22] <daMaestro> mrayzenoss, so the google portlet doesn't show (clearly) how i represent the existing settings (after a save) in the settings render
[22-Sep-2008 16:18:24] <KeithBilly_> mrayzenoss : just replacing the install-functions.sh, making the mod and running a fresh install
[22-Sep-2008 16:19:39] <__ian__> daMaestro: Can you explain that a bit more?
[22-Sep-2008 16:20:35] <daMaestro> __ian__, http://fpaste.org/paste/6417
[22-Sep-2008 16:20:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6417 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:20:47] <daMaestro> __ian__, i can't seem to "save settings"
[22-Sep-2008 16:21:04] <daMaestro> __ian__, i'm just working through doing one thing at a time and passing data around
[22-Sep-2008 16:21:12] <daMaestro> __ian__, from what i can tell.. i can't get settings to save
[22-Sep-2008 16:22:59] <__ian__> daMaestro: in submitSettings, you're passing the object with queryArguments attribute. Any particular reason? I believe that won't work.
[22-Sep-2008 16:23:34] <__ian__> daMaestro: That is, I think you should just pass an object with the attributes you're saving. No need to wrap that in another object.
[22-Sep-2008 16:23:36] <daMaestro> __ian__, i thought that .value was the data
[22-Sep-2008 16:24:26] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/6418 is the google code
[22-Sep-2008 16:24:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6418 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:24:49] <__ian__> daMaestro: Yep, .value is the data. But then when you call this.superclass.submitSettings(), you're wrapping the object containing your values in another object under the queryArguments attribute.
[22-Sep-2008 16:25:42] <daMaestro> oh, so i need to pass serviceid_el rather then serviceid ?
[22-Sep-2008 16:26:16] <__ian__> daMaestro: No. You're obtaining the values correctly. It's how you're calling submitSettings that is the issue.
[22-Sep-2008 16:26:36] <__ian__> daMaestro: http://fpaste.org/paste/6419
[22-Sep-2008 16:26:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6419 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:27:52] <daMaestro> ah, i see
[22-Sep-2008 16:30:01] <daMaestro> ok, and with regards to populating the settings pane with correct information
[22-Sep-2008 16:30:36] <daMaestro> this.serviceid_el = INPUT({'name': 'serviceid'}); should be this.serviceid_el = INPUT({'name': 'serviceid', 'value': this.datasource.serviceid.value}); ?
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:28] <__ian__> Yeah, that'll do it
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:30] <__ian__> I think
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:45] <daMaestro> oh and actually: this.serviceid_el = INPUT({'name': 'serviceid', 'value': this.datasource.serviceid});
[22-Sep-2008 16:31:58] <__ian__> ah, yes, right
[22-Sep-2008 16:34:29] <KeithBilly_> mrayzenoss : that did work actually, defiantly upload a patch or modify the install docs to include that step.
[22-Sep-2008 16:35:57] <mrayzenoss> KeithBilly_: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3757
[22-Sep-2008 16:39:18] <KeithBilly> dont' know if you saw my last post but
[22-Sep-2008 16:39:20] <KeithBilly> mrayzenoss : that did work actually, defiantly upload a patch or modify the install docs to include that step.
[22-Sep-2008 16:43:35] <daMaestro> __ian__, well.. this still doesn't seem to "save" the settings: http://fpaste.org/paste/6420
[22-Sep-2008 16:43:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6420 (at fpaste.org)
[22-Sep-2008 16:44:16] <daMaestro> oh wait.. maybe it does now
[22-Sep-2008 16:44:54] <daMaestro> ah, it does
[22-Sep-2008 16:45:14] <__ian__> hooray
[22-Sep-2008 17:25:41] <daMaestro> so, where is the option to tune the timeout waiting for snmp?
[22-Sep-2008 17:25:57] <daMaestro> we have some servers under heavy load right now and they are flopping back and forth regarding snmp timeouts
[22-Sep-2008 17:26:18] <daMaestro> (i assume it's some setting with the collector, but nothing is jumping out at me as the correct option)
[22-Sep-2008 17:28:17] <daMaestro> zSnmpTimeout and zSnmpTries ... how can i change that for multiple devices at the same time?
[22-Sep-2008 17:29:00] <daMaestro> can i change it in a device class? or does that only apply to new devices?
[22-Sep-2008 17:35:53] <__ian__> daMaestro: change it for the device class
[22-Sep-2008 17:36:03] <__ian__> it inherits down unless explicitly overridden
[22-Sep-2008 18:02:41] <CamargoBP> Does anyone know how to add graphs to the Zenoss Dashboard as depicted in this picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zenoss/2650686876/
[22-Sep-2008 18:02:48] <adytum-bot> Title: konsa79 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com)
[22-Sep-2008 18:03:51] <__ian__> That appears to be a custom table portlet.
[22-Sep-2008 18:04:50] <mrayzenoss> CamargoBP: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/graph-portlet
[22-Sep-2008 18:05:06] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPacks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 18:05:24] <CamargoBP> mrayzenoss: Thanks
[22-Sep-2008 18:07:07] <MrTux> mrayzenoss: ah, your back
just a question, where do you want to have featurerequests?[22-Sep-2008 18:07:32] <mrayzenoss> you can open a ticket and one of the options is "enhancement"
[22-Sep-2008 18:07:49] <mrayzenoss> what's your request?
[22-Sep-2008 18:08:29] <MrTux> a autocreate snmp map, i have many devices having maps, eg for device temperatures, and i want to autocreate graphs for this
[22-Sep-2008 18:10:25] <mrayzenoss> write up a thorough explanation as a ticket or email and I'll make sure it gets to product management
[22-Sep-2008 18:11:07] <MrTux> what's your mail?
[22-Sep-2008 18:19:43] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[22-Sep-2008 19:10:04] <knakka> anyone know how to extract eventClassKey from an event?
[22-Sep-2008 20:51:24] <omar> I'm trying to get latency graphs, I have already read the ping-smoke example in http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/user-contributed/SmokepingishLatencyGraphs/?searchterm=latency
[22-Sep-2008 20:51:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Smokepingish Latency Graphs - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[22-Sep-2008 20:52:15] <omar> the graph is in performance tab, but no information is showd
[22-Sep-2008 20:52:31] <omar> any suggest, idea?
[22-Sep-2008 20:54:24] <omar> I have confirmed the ping command in bash, it gives min, avg, max, mdev and loss values correctly....
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:04] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I just did something monumentally stupid - I upgraded from 2.1.2 to 2.2.3 - and between the two I shut the machine down - which wasn't inherently stupid, but not having mysqld start on boot was stupid - and so part of the upgrade migration puked all over my screen (but apparently not in such a way that I could rerun it) anyone know what the script is so that I can easily run it again?
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:35] <therealnemo> restore your backup
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:38] <therealnemo> and do it again
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:52] <ke4qqq> ohhhh cool
[22-Sep-2008 21:03:54] <ke4qqq> I can do that
[22-Sep-2008 21:04:19] <ke4qqq> are we talking just the db or the entire zenbackup backup?
[22-Sep-2008 21:05:05] <therealnemo> i would want to go back to pre-upgrade state and do it again
[22-Sep-2008 21:05:09] <therealnemo> so all
[22-Sep-2008 21:05:26] <ke4qqq> ok
[22-Sep-2008 21:10:44] <jacksafro> when writing alert dependency and suppression rules for zenoss, I am directed to use the 'device.pingStatus()' return value to determine if the 'other host' is down
[22-Sep-2008 21:11:02] <jacksafro> what does that value represent? i have a host that is up and passing all service checks but has a pingStatus() value of 2 or 3
[22-Sep-2008 21:11:19] <jacksafro> which pretty much tells me that the pingStatus() value is not a good indicator of whether or not the host is up
[22-Sep-2008 21:11:42] <jacksafro> does anyone know what how the pingStatus() value is calculated? what does it represent?
[22-Sep-2008 21:13:53] <ke4qqq> therealnemo: I know it's yet another stupid thing to not try a restore ahead of time, but restoring is zenbackup --restore --file=/path/to/file ? it doesn't seem to like --restore
[22-Sep-2008 21:16:11] <therealnemo> zenrestore is the command, zenrestore --help
[22-Sep-2008 21:18:52] <ke4qqq> ahhh ok
[22-Sep-2008 21:18:53] <ke4qqq> thanks
[22-Sep-2008 21:25:49] <jacksafro> is there anyone in this channel that knows where i can look to determine for myself what the pingStatus() return value represents?
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[23-Sep-2008 13:27:17] <evil_lw> is it normal for processes disappearing when a server is in a state of maintenanace to generate an alarm?
[23-Sep-2008 13:30:31] <jmp242> It depends on how your alerting rule is set up - does it require production status?
[23-Sep-2008 13:34:59] <evil_lw> yes, when I say an alarm, I mean on the page, better yet, I mean an event, it just seems hit or miss because we have defined maintenance windows for a few hundred servers, and when applications restart on the back-end, zenoss generates an event even when the host is in a pre-production or maintenance state
[23-Sep-2008 13:37:29] <evil_lw> what seems annoying when the state returns to production, I can expect to get a heapload of messages, at least thats behavior I observed a few days ago, when I had the bulk of the events acknowledged from the night before then turned on email notifications
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[23-Sep-2008 13:47:33] <jmp242> Events get generated regardless of production state
[23-Sep-2008 13:48:06] <jmp242> you could create transforms or mappings to either history or drop events if not in production evil_lw
[23-Sep-2008 13:50:49] <evil_lw> really, the impression I got from the docs was that they aren't generated in non-production states, well thats starting to make a bit more sense
[23-Sep-2008 13:51:27] <jmp242> I think the docs are either wrong or unclear
[23-Sep-2008 13:51:33] <jmp242> events are always created
[23-Sep-2008 13:53:08] * evil_lw goes to figure that out
[23-Sep-2008 13:53:17] <evil_lw> thanks! I'm sure I'll have a couple more questions
[23-Sep-2008 14:07:45] <evil_lw> jmp242: so something like `if evt.prodstate != 1000: evt._action="history"` in the transform?
[23-Sep-2008 14:12:00] <jmp242> yea, assuming that's the right code... There was a recent forum post on this
[23-Sep-2008 14:12:15] <jmp242> and I don't actually know all the possible evt.variables
[23-Sep-2008 14:13:39] <jmp242> event mappings would be another way to do this, but they are only documented well in the Zenoss book, and it's not entirely clear there either
[23-Sep-2008 14:15:57] <evil_lw> ok, whats odd is looking at one of the events that was generated this morning, the prodstate shows as 1000, however the machine was set to maintenance by the maintenance window...
[23-Sep-2008 14:18:12] <jmp242> hmmm
[23-Sep-2008 14:18:15] <jmp242> Got me then
[23-Sep-2008 14:26:33] <evil_lw> looks like prodState on the display is just pulled from the current system state
[23-Sep-2008 14:26:46] <evil_lw> i just changed a server to maintenance and the number changed
[23-Sep-2008 14:26:49] <evil_lw> on the event
[23-Sep-2008 14:28:55] <jmp242> right
[23-Sep-2008 14:29:00] <jmp242> hmmm
[23-Sep-2008 14:29:08] <jmp242> SO it ought to actually work then
[23-Sep-2008 14:33:04] <CamargoBP> How many people would find it beneficial to have an IRC portlet that lets you monitor rooms?
[23-Sep-2008 14:33:44] <ke4qqq> ooohhh wait - so you mean I could look like I was monitoring the network and actually be in irc at the same time!!!???? +1
[23-Sep-2008 14:34:56] <CamargoBP> No so you can monitor say a service provider such as xmission and you know when somthing is reported about your network say alerts. (irc.xmission.com) #xminfo or #xmlounge
[23-Sep-2008 14:39:24] <ke4qqq> ahhh ok
[23-Sep-2008 14:39:36] <ke4qqq> that could be interesting as well
[23-Sep-2008 15:21:20] <Firestar> How can I pass parameters to a command to run every time an event is created by Zenoss?
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[23-Sep-2008 21:46:16] <robbiet480> hey im trying to get zenoss working on leopard server
[23-Sep-2008 21:46:29] <robbiet480> im getting a mysql error which i fixed but now im getting a ld library not found error
[23-Sep-2008 21:46:32] <robbiet480> can anyone help me?
[23-Sep-2008 21:47:23] <robbiet480> or any leopard and zenoss help at all
[23-Sep-2008 21:54:54] <robbiet480> awww
[23-Sep-2008 21:54:59] <robbiet480> i was hoping someone could
[23-Sep-2008 23:12:59] <daMaestro> blah, mochkit-- # being a js lib
[23-Sep-2008 23:13:08] <daMaestro> mochikit*
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[24-Sep-2008 00:09:04] <daMaestro> finally. figured out how to use the INPUT({'type': 'checkbox'}) and actually store the fact it checked and re-render it's state later. blah.
[24-Sep-2008 00:16:30] <daMaestro> is there any documentation on how we can use ZPT with a portlet?
[24-Sep-2008 00:16:47] <daMaestro> i'm very much feeling limited by this js framework
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:01] <daMaestro> hmm.. i'd also like some information regarding what i should do about persisting data for a given portlet
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:17] <daMaestro> aka, we have a limit on the api i'm sourcing data from (webmetrics)
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:43] <daMaestro> also, i would like to use http://code.google.com/p/flot/ to render my graphs
[24-Sep-2008 00:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: flot - Google Code (at code.google.com)
[24-Sep-2008 00:34:54] <daMaestro> and. fuck.
[24-Sep-2008 00:35:08] <daMaestro> zenpack --remove doesn't just install.
[24-Sep-2008 00:35:13] <daMaestro> hmmm un-install
[24-Sep-2008 00:35:33] <daMaestro> that. sucks.
[24-Sep-2008 00:36:55] <daMaestro> i guess i really did just want to start over.
[24-Sep-2008 00:38:35] * daMaestro blames zenoss-logger
[24-Sep-2008 00:40:30] <daMaestro> yesss. irc logs + pastebin == success
[24-Sep-2008 01:40:10] <daMaestro> does callback({responseText:html}); strip <script> tags?
[24-Sep-2008 01:41:26] <daMaestro> gah, this might be the reason the google maps portlet uses and iframe
[24-Sep-2008 01:41:29] <daMaestro> s/and/an/
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[24-Sep-2008 07:48:36] <Lunex> hi i got a ( newbie ) question regarding WMI : on each monitored windows server i get an event ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT or WMI connect error and i dont know how to deal with it. can anyone give me a hint what this is exactly or how to stop it ?
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[24-Sep-2008 12:01:51] <boran> What password is initially given to the zenoss user (unix account) when installing via rpm?
[24-Sep-2008 12:02:21] <boran> ...or do I break something if I change it?
[24-Sep-2008 12:46:50] <mshundal> user: admin
[24-Sep-2008 12:46:54] <mshundal> pass: zenoss
[24-Sep-2008 12:47:31] <mshundal> ow nix account, no idea... try passwd zenoss
[24-Sep-2008 13:31:05] <boran> mshundal: Thank you.
[24-Sep-2008 13:33:08] <mshundal> anytime
[24-Sep-2008 14:48:44] <nemo_> sup zenoss ppl
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:08] <nemo_> i am looking at index 2 of the admin guide
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:12] <nemo_> getDeviceGroupNames
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:20] <nemo_> is there a setDeviceGroupNames
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:29] <nemo_> i see many gets, no sets !
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:40] <nemo_> i want to set device groups from an imported file.
[24-Sep-2008 14:49:54] <nemo_> in py
[24-Sep-2008 14:59:41] <sn1ffer72> Does anyone monitor multiple CPUs or cores with zenoss?
[24-Sep-2008 15:00:04] <sn1ffer72> my question is specifically around charting
[24-Sep-2008 15:02:25] <nemo_> yes i do , but it doesnt mean i can answer, but carry on ....
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:01] <sn1ffer72> Ok.. when I used Solarwinds IpMonitor it discovered each core on each CPU and graphed it
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:22] <sn1ffer72> Zen does graph CPU utilization, but it appears to only be for 1 CPU
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:25] <sn1ffer72> and 1 core
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:26] <nemo_> that doesnt sound so zenoss related
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:33] <sn1ffer72> it discovers the other CPUs
[24-Sep-2008 15:03:50] <nemo_> well just because it makes four graphs doesnt mean anything
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:09] <nemo_> you can have cpu usage from 1-400% for 4 procs for example
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:10] <nemo_> like top
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:21] <nemo_> you dont neccesarily have to do each one
[24-Sep-2008 15:04:54] <sn1ffer72> what I had seen with IpMonitor is that it will report some as 100%
[24-Sep-2008 15:05:07] <sn1ffer72> then when I dove down.. it was for only 1 core
[24-Sep-2008 15:05:20] <sn1ffer72> so I am just making sure I do not run into that one again
[24-Sep-2008 15:07:29] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/mec30f4b
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[24-Sep-2008 15:07:40] <nemo_> can anyone answer me about setting groups ?
[24-Sep-2008 15:07:51] <nemo_> its not like i dont try to help ppl in here
[24-Sep-2008 15:08:03] <nemo_> bit of help back once in a while might keep me keen
[24-Sep-2008 15:17:38] <sn1ffer72> what are you tring to do with groups?
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:16] <nemo_> i want to set device groups from an imported file.
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:30] <nemo_> e.g. csv with format:
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:43] <nemo_> device,primarygroup,extragrp,ext,ext2,ext3
[24-Sep-2008 15:19:50] <nemo_> i got all that working in py
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:00] <nemo_> reading in the file, splitting lines etc
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:03] <nemo_> but
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:10] <nemo_> d=dmd.Devices.findDevice(device)
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:10] <nemo_> d.setGroups(pgroup)
[24-Sep-2008 15:20:14] <nemo_> that doesnt seem to work.
[24-Sep-2008 15:21:49] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/mec30f4b
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[24-Sep-2008 15:22:12] <sn1ffer72> I created an import file
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:13] <sn1ffer72> /Devices/Server/Linux
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:16] <sn1ffer72> host1
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:17] <sn1ffer72> host2
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:21] <sn1ffer72> /Devices/Server/Windows
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:23] <sn1ffer72> host3
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:25] <sn1ffer72> host4
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:29] <nemo_> thats from the web
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:32] <sn1ffer72> no
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:33] <sn1ffer72> cli
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:33] <nemo_> i read that too
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:41] <nemo_> i seen it on the web
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:42] <nemo_>
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:46] <sn1ffer72> oh
[24-Sep-2008 15:22:56] <sn1ffer72> worked like a charm
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:06] <sn1ffer72> else.. I am not sure I understand your question
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:30] <nemo_> its pretty simple
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:48] <nemo_> the last 2 lines dont work, they should set the group first group of the device
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:49] <sn1ffer72> ah
[24-Sep-2008 15:23:59] <sn1ffer72> I see the link that you just posted
[24-Sep-2008 15:24:51] <sn1ffer72> are you trying to put the same node in multiple device groups?
[24-Sep-2008 15:26:12] <nemo_> i just want to set any groups
[24-Sep-2008 15:26:23] <nemo_> has anyone done this ?
[24-Sep-2008 15:26:57] <sn1ffer72> when i did the import it automatically added the nodes to those device groups
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:07] <nemo_> yeh but thats an initial import
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:12] <sn1ffer72> ok
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:19] <sn1ffer72> so your trying to do it on an update?
[24-Sep-2008 15:27:21] <nemo_> this is an existing 3500 device system
[24-Sep-2008 15:28:02] <nemo_> and i have bent the managers ear to make a csv list and place it into a location
[24-Sep-2008 15:28:21] <nemo_> then i jsut run my script every X and machine owner ships are taken care of
[24-Sep-2008 15:33:32] <sn1ffer72> I am still very new at this product but perhaps the zenmodeler command from the cli
[24-Sep-2008 15:40:22] <nemo_> modeller wont do it
[24-Sep-2008 15:40:39] <nemo_> i will add this to my zenoss support call i have open, if they reply ... .
[24-Sep-2008 17:23:18] <sn1ffer72> has anyone tried to forward zenoss alarms to a northbound monitoring platform like netcool, hpov, etc etc?
[24-Sep-2008 17:25:57] <nemo2> events db is mysql, not hard to do i guess
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:03] <nemo2> but no
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:10] <sn1ffer72> great idea thanks
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:25] <sn1ffer72> wish I could help nemo on the device groups
[24-Sep-2008 17:26:34] <sn1ffer72> if I trip across it I will be sure to let you know
[24-Sep-2008 17:27:39] <nemo2> tx sn1ffer72 , will get it solved sooner or later
[24-Sep-2008 18:06:34] <jmp242> nemo2: have you looked at the script called scotts batch loader in the forums?
[24-Sep-2008 18:07:06] <jmp242> it might have some info how to do that, though I only really recall them doing classes and not necessarily groups
[24-Sep-2008 19:33:36] <caseyh2007> Anyone have experience installing zenoss 2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0?
[24-Sep-2008 20:40:26] <caseyh2007> any one have experience installing Zenoss 2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0?
[24-Sep-2008 23:08:45] <daMaestro> where is /simpleLocationGeoMap located?
[24-Sep-2008 23:08:53] <daMaestro> (it seems like a view template)
[24-Sep-2008 23:10:48] <daMaestro> ah, there it is
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[25-Sep-2008 00:20:26] <daMaestro> if anyone figures out a way to put zope in debug mode so i don't have to keep restarting it as i debug plugins, that would be super
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[25-Sep-2008 07:38:51] <greed> Hey guys, Where can I get a complete list of datapoints ?
[25-Sep-2008 11:50:02] <nemo|> anyone know how to set a devices groups via zendmd
[25-Sep-2008 11:50:05] <nemo|> pls
[25-Sep-2008 14:27:32] * haydnh
[25-Sep-2008 14:28:09] <malbon> yo haydn
[25-Sep-2008 14:28:25] <malbon> did you scare all the other people away?
[25-Sep-2008 14:33:51] <nemo|> no i asked a real question
[25-Sep-2008 14:33:55] <nemo|> that scared em off
[25-Sep-2008 14:35:33] <malbon> more than likely
[25-Sep-2008 14:37:12] <malbon> hi chet
[25-Sep-2008 14:38:54] <cluther> Morning, Mike.
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:01] <cluther> At least for me it is.
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:13] <haydnh> Hey Chet
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:39] <cluther> The whole crew is here, eh?
[25-Sep-2008 14:39:49] <haydnh> Looks that way =)
[25-Sep-2008 14:41:21] <haydnh> Chet, before we start - I tried you ABS patch and I still get the invalid literal for float(): ABS error when using a MIN/MAX value
[25-Sep-2008 14:41:44] <cluther> What's your RPN look like?
[25-Sep-2008 14:42:25] <malbon> I have a meeting at 11 sadly, how long are you around for today?
[25-Sep-2008 14:42:51] <cluther> All day! Not on IRC, but you know how to reach me.
[25-Sep-2008 14:43:01] <haydnh> With the ABS but no min/max value it looks fine (all +ve), with the MIN/MAX I can't load the perf tab to see
[25-Sep-2008 14:43:20] <haydnh> Mike - you've got Chets personal mobile number right? ;P
[25-Sep-2008 14:43:57] <malbon> I'm sure we have that somewhere....
[25-Sep-2008 14:45:36] <cluther> haydnh: Can you show me the RPN?
[25-Sep-2008 14:46:45] <haydnh> brb - Tomi's got great timing with his phone calls!
[25-Sep-2008 14:52:46] <haydnh> chet - do you want the dump aswell as the rrd?
[25-Sep-2008 14:53:37] <malbon> Is there a way we can make a graph using the RPN to add cached and buffered memory into a graph for linux? can we just use ${here/memCached} etc in the predicate?
[25-Sep-2008 14:55:47] <cluther> malbon: I don't think any RPN is required for this. Can't you just add the memCached/memBuffer data points to the graph?
[25-Sep-2008 14:56:44] <malbon> cluther: actually I'd like memAvail+memCached+memBuffer in one line
[25-Sep-2008 14:57:45] <cluther> ah.. you'd need to add a CDEF to the graph to add them.
[25-Sep-2008 14:58:32] <malbon> cluther: ok I'll take a look.
[25-Sep-2008 14:58:42] <cluther> btw, the memAvail value returned from Net-SNMP is total RAM - memUsed - memBuffer - memCached - memShared
[25-Sep-2008 14:59:59] <malbon> yup, it's a bit odd to explain to people about cached and buffers
[25-Sep-2008 15:00:05] <malbon> anyhow bbl.
[25-Sep-2008 15:00:18] <haydnh> Hi Matt
[25-Sep-2008 15:01:14] <mrayzenoss> good morning everybody
[25-Sep-2008 15:01:41] <caseyh2007> good morning
[25-Sep-2008 15:01:44] <bedwards> hello
[25-Sep-2008 15:03:44] <mrayzenoss> testing out our new google mini for searching the website
[25-Sep-2008 15:03:48] <mrayzenoss> it's really fast
[25-Sep-2008 15:03:58] <mrayzenoss> and seems to do a good job of finding everything
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:48] <caseyh2007> Im having issues compiling zenoss-2.2.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 here is the forum post http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=7485
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:54] <mrayzenoss> IT is tweaking it now, hopefully we can unleash it soon
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2.3 FreeBSD 7.0 Install error (at forums.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2008 15:04:55] <caseyh2007> any help is appreciated
[25-Sep-2008 15:05:31] <bedwards> He oÃdo a responder a cualquier pregunta de nuestro habla hispana usuarios.
[25-Sep-2008 15:06:43] <bedwards> Estoy aquà para responder a cualquier pregunta de nuestro habla hispana usuarios.
[25-Sep-2008 15:07:57] <mrayzenoss> caseyh2007: I was looking at that last night... we have a bunch of FreeBSD users, but I'm not one of them
[25-Sep-2008 15:08:22] <caseyh2007> well, ill keep looking on google
[25-Sep-2008 15:08:50] <mrayzenoss> that's with the 2.2.3 tarball?
[25-Sep-2008 15:09:26] <malbon> mrayzenoss: any news on 2.2.4?
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:04] <mrayzenoss> it's being uploaded to SourceForge and will be out today
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:13] <malbon> mrayzenoss: and enterprise?
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:22] <mrayzenoss> both today
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:27] <jmp242> Sweet... 2.2.4 YAY
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:28] <cluther> caseyh2007: I've seen that issue.
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:40] <cluther> caseyh2007: It happens on OSX too and I know a workaround.. one sec.
[25-Sep-2008 15:10:49] <malbon> cool.
[25-Sep-2008 15:11:38] <mrayzenoss> so 2.2.4 is landing today and the 2.3 beta starts next week
[25-Sep-2008 15:12:00] <mrayzenoss> big improvements in WMI and JMX, as well as a host of other fixes
[25-Sep-2008 15:13:08] <malbon> sounds good. hopefully it'll sort the troubleshooting of WMI problems.
[25-Sep-2008 15:15:31] <cluther> caseyh2007: I just responded to the forum post with the work around.
[25-Sep-2008 15:16:29] <caseyh2007> thanks ill check it out
[25-Sep-2008 15:20:31] <mrayzenoss> the WMI code and the JMX have both been substantially rewritten
[25-Sep-2008 15:20:56] <mrayzenoss> WMI is now completely asynchronous, like other Twisted calls
[25-Sep-2008 15:21:04] <mrayzenoss> so it should scale a lot better
[25-Sep-2008 15:22:12] <malbon> have the zenoss team put any thought into monitoring XP workstations?
[25-Sep-2008 15:22:12] <mrayzenoss> cgibbons knows a lot about the WMI rewrite
[25-Sep-2008 15:22:35] <cgibbons> dats me
[25-Sep-2008 15:23:23] <mshundal> question, is there a way to setup predictive snmp failure, ex one of my links is flaky so the server responds to 3 out of 5 snmpwalks but once z doesnt get a respond it doesnt even try again
[25-Sep-2008 15:24:37] <cluther> mshundal: zSnmpTries
[25-Sep-2008 15:24:56] <cgibbons> malbon: with the new Windows monitoring code we have coming in 2.3 it should work just fine (and it should work just fine now with SNMP); let me try it right now with the latest code and see.
[25-Sep-2008 15:26:16] <malbon> cgibbons: cool, I'm just asked here to monitor the workstations for eventlog etc. likely that in the future we'll want to use it to manage the desktop software inventory too.
[25-Sep-2008 15:26:18] <mshundal> would sticking that in the zproperties be fine (cant find it anywhere else)
[25-Sep-2008 15:26:57] <cluther> mshundal: You should already see zSnmpTries in the zProperties. I believe the default is 2. If you want Zenoss to retry 3 times instead you can set it to 3.
[25-Sep-2008 15:27:06] <mshundal> thx
[25-Sep-2008 15:27:38] <malbon> ok, another quick question, in reports, how can I select machines with a package installed starting with a string like "Microsoft Windows Server" or "redhat-release" ?
[25-Sep-2008 15:33:31] <mshundal> cluther, i set it to 10 but i still keep getting snmp down msg and soon as i run an snmpwalk from the webUI it works but the SNMP message presists
[25-Sep-2008 15:34:36] <mrayzenoss> I'm not familiar with the Enterprise reports, but have you looked at the Admin Guide for creating custom reports?
[25-Sep-2008 15:36:40] <cluther> mshundal: What is the zSnmpVer for the device in question?
[25-Sep-2008 15:38:48] <cluther> malbon: Check out this forum topic, it could be useful for the reporting question
[25-Sep-2008 15:38:48] <cluther> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=5887
[25-Sep-2008 15:38:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Reporting Question (at forums.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:08] <mshundal> its winserver 2k3, think its v1
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:41] <mshundal> but heres the output of snmpwalk
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:44] <mshundal> SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Hardware: x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 10 AT/AT COMPATIBLE - Software: Windows Version 5.2 (Build 3790 Multiprocessor Free)
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:44] <mshundal> SNMPv2-MIB::sysObjectID.0 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.311.1.1.3.1.2
[25-Sep-2008 15:39:44] <mshundal> DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (25961790) 3 days, 0:06:57.90
[25-Sep-2008 15:41:59] <malbon> cluther: ok thanks, so I write a python method.
excellent.[25-Sep-2008 15:43:07] <haydnh> Hey Mike - I thought you loved python?
[25-Sep-2008 15:43:25] <malbon> haydnh: no sarcasm was involved.
[25-Sep-2008 15:43:48] <cluther> malbon: My sarcasm detector went off too.
[25-Sep-2008 15:44:42] <mrayzenoss> another quiet session. I guess everyone's just waiting for the 2.2.4 announcement
[25-Sep-2008 15:44:44] <malbon> wow, you all got false positives, who would have thought.
[25-Sep-2008 15:46:15] <mrayzenoss> anybody in Texas? I'll be at the Texas Python Unconference next month
[25-Sep-2008 15:47:47] <cgibbons> is anyone else from the team going there, mray?
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:04] <mrayzenoss> I'm working on bedwards
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:12] <cgibbons> jp should really go
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:14] <mrayzenoss> possibly JP, he loves Python so much
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:20] <mrayzenoss> jinx
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:32] <mrayzenoss> http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/09/24/texas-python-unconference-2008/
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:35] <cluther> It really is a quiet one.
[25-Sep-2008 15:48:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Texas Python Unconference 2008 | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[25-Sep-2008 15:50:14] <mrayzenoss> and after that I'll be at Ohio LinuxFest
[25-Sep-2008 15:51:35] <haydnh> Well if you guys are ever at a London event I'll happily buy you a beer =)
[25-Sep-2008 15:51:54] <mrayzenoss> I keep trying to go to European events
[25-Sep-2008 15:52:33] <mrayzenoss> but they're a little more costly
[25-Sep-2008 15:55:16] <kells> Hey Matt, I'm happy to go to any of the Japanese events.
[25-Sep-2008 15:55:29] <mrayzenoss> me too
[25-Sep-2008 15:56:43] <mrayzenoss> Anyone not signed up for the 2.3 beta who's interested in participating?
[25-Sep-2008 16:02:46] <mrayzenoss> well, bedwards is out and there don't seem to be a lot of questions today
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:04] <mrayzenoss> thanks to everyone who attended, thanks cgibbons and cluther
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:18] <mrayzenoss> I'll have a log up soon and 2.2.4 will be announced on the blog/forums
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:23] <mrayzenoss> today
[25-Sep-2008 16:03:58] * haydnh apologises for hogging Chet's time!
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:17] <mrayzenoss> haydnh: we're just happy to get questions, today was really quiet
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:33] <malbon> mrayzenoss: are we on the list?
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:48] <mrayzenoss> malbon: for the demo? I believe so
[25-Sep-2008 16:04:54] <malbon> mrayzenoss: cool.
[25-Sep-2008 16:05:00] <haydnh> For beta? Yes we are Mike
[25-Sep-2008 16:05:46] <haydnh> I take it you're giving me a uktest-rtf-zenb01 server? ;P
[25-Sep-2008 16:06:22] <malbon> haha, yeah right, there is much chance of that as zenoss sponsoring us to go to the conventions in Texas
[25-Sep-2008 16:06:40] <mrayzenoss> you guys going to LISA?
[25-Sep-2008 16:07:06] <mrayzenoss> http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa08/
[25-Sep-2008 16:07:13] <adytum-bot> Title: 22nd Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA '08) (at www.usenix.org)
[25-Sep-2008 16:07:46] <malbon> we might if it were in the UK (maybe)
[25-Sep-2008 16:08:18] <haydnh> If it was in the UK and there was a bar next door is what Mike's trying to say... I think he reads BOFH too much
[25-Sep-2008 16:08:48] <malbon> with the Jboss (enterprise) zenpack, once the jmx connection is sorted out does it just work? or do I need to do stuff?
[25-Sep-2008 16:09:20] <mrayzenoss> malbon: I don't know the Enterprise stuff much, I can follow up offline if you like
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:04] <malbon> mrayzenoss: I'll raise an issue on the service poral.
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:22] <mrayzenoss> sounds good. OK, I'm out of here. Thanks again everybody
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:30] <haydnh> Cheers Matt
[25-Sep-2008 16:11:50] <malbon> see-ya matt
[25-Sep-2008 16:24:56] <daMaestro> has anyone successfully designed a custom service for a port that already has a service define?
[25-Sep-2008 16:25:26] <daMaestro> example: we'd like to design a service definition for port 80 tcp that has a pre-defined sendString and expectString
[25-Sep-2008 16:25:47] <daMaestro> this check would be in addition to the standard http service definition
[25-Sep-2008 16:33:00] <daMaestro> basically, if the http service is already added/monitored, i can't add a custom service that also monitors port 80
[25-Sep-2008 17:40:37] <williamhart> I am upgrading a vmware appliance from 2.1 to 2.2 and the conary command listed in the howto gives me a error "Too Many ='s"?
[25-Sep-2008 17:40:56] <williamhart> any ideas?
[25-Sep-2008 17:46:46] <daMaestro> yeah, don't use rpath ;-)
[25-Sep-2008 18:31:28] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I am trying to use the ApacheMonitor ZenPack - I get no graphs for anything other than Apache CPU Utilization and that one is blank I have verified that servername/server-status and servername/server-status?auto work (and have this running on multiple machines.
[25-Sep-2008 18:31:35] <ke4qqq> any thoughts on what I am doing wrong
[25-Sep-2008 18:31:37] <ke4qqq> ?
[25-Sep-2008 18:58:22] <nemo2> graphs is all about performance templates
[25-Sep-2008 18:58:46] <nemo2> do you have the apache monitor template enabled ?
[25-Sep-2008 19:01:47] <ke4qqq> how does one tell?
[25-Sep-2008 19:04:51] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, yo
[25-Sep-2008 19:05:00] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, that ZenPack uses mod_stats
[25-Sep-2008 19:05:04] <daMaestro> hmm mod_status
[25-Sep-2008 19:05:30] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, make sure that you are allowing your ZenOSS machine to access your mod_status url
[25-Sep-2008 19:06:27] <ke4qqq> yes it is
[25-Sep-2008 19:06:30] <ke4qqq> I can curl that
[25-Sep-2008 19:07:01] <ke4qqq> daMaestro: see my earlier message where I indicate that I can get to servername/server-status
[25-Sep-2008 19:07:04] <ke4qqq> so mod_status is working
[25-Sep-2008 19:09:46] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, can you telnet to the ip on port 80 and issues a GET /server-status?auto ?
[25-Sep-2008 19:11:33] <ke4qqq> daMaestro: http://fpaste.org/paste/6557
[25-Sep-2008 19:11:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6557 (at fpaste.org)
[25-Sep-2008 19:14:25] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, python /opt/zenoss/ZenPacks/ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor-2.0.0-py2.4.egg/ZenPacks/zenoss/ApacheMonitor/libexec/check_apache.py -H keymarkinc.com -p 80 -u "/server-status?auto"
[25-Sep-2008 19:16:27] <ke4qqq> http://fpaste.org/paste/6558
[25-Sep-2008 19:16:37] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6558 (at fpaste.org)
[25-Sep-2008 19:22:20] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, sooo i dunno
[25-Sep-2008 19:22:22] <daMaestro> ;-)
[25-Sep-2008 19:22:48] <ke4qqq> lol very helpful - I even remodeled thinking that would do it
[25-Sep-2008 19:23:26] <daMaestro> do the rrds even exist?
[25-Sep-2008 19:25:19] <ke4qqq> no - that's it.....
[25-Sep-2008 19:25:25] <ke4qqq> http://fpaste.org/paste/6559
[25-Sep-2008 19:25:35] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6559 (at fpaste.org)
[25-Sep-2008 19:26:55] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, i'll likely have a patch at some point
[25-Sep-2008 19:27:01] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, if you beat me to it... let me know
[25-Sep-2008 19:27:16] <ke4qqq> unlikely, my python is abhorrent, but I'll look into it
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:19] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, in the past, we have just extended the snmp agent and then queried our custom OIDs
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:30] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, we will likely be moving away from that, so i'll have a little of time to fix this zenpack
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:43] <daMaestro> the OSProcess definition is buggy also
[25-Sep-2008 19:28:48] * daMaestro complains some more
[25-Sep-2008 21:09:35] <ke4qqq> apparently I have forgotten a ton of what I used to know about zenoss - so I wrote up this template for monitoring a server - so I wanted to apply that to other machines - so I added the template to a zenpack, but now it seems that I can't use that template anywhere but the machine I originally created it on.
[25-Sep-2008 21:30:52] <robbiet480> anyone here gotten zenoss + leopard working successfully?
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:18] <cgibbons> meaning OS X ?
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:23] <robbiet480> yeah
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:32] <cgibbons> sure, that's what most of the devs use. are you trying to do it from source or?
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:45] <robbiet480> just trying to get it running at all lol
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:49] <robbiet480> but started with source
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:55] <robbiet480> im hitting the python-mysql-install bug
[25-Sep-2008 21:31:58] <robbiet480> gcc error 1
[25-Sep-2008 21:32:16] <robbiet480> i fixed that one
[25-Sep-2008 21:32:22] <robbiet480> and now im getting.... *lemme go look*
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:11] <robbiet480> hold on. running the install again
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:15] <robbiet480> btw its a PPC if that helps at all
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:31] <cgibbons> that makes it harder for me to double check
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:42] <robbiet480> lol
[25-Sep-2008 21:33:43] <cgibbons> although I do have an old PPC mini sitting next to me
[25-Sep-2008 21:34:53] <robbiet480> oh
[25-Sep-2008 21:34:55] <robbiet480> still on
[25-Sep-2008 21:34:58] <robbiet480> make: *** [mysql-python-install] Error 1
[25-Sep-2008 21:35:15] <robbiet480> checking zenbuild.log
[25-Sep-2008 21:35:52] <robbiet480> _mysql.c:38:19: error: mysql.h: No such file or directory
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:00] <robbiet480> hang on. lemme pastebin the good parts
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:04] <cgibbons> okie
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:15] <cgibbons> i'm guessing we've not successfully done a PPC OS X build before
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:17] <robbiet480> http://pastebin.com/m66ab46b
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:22] <robbiet480> nope.
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:24] <adytum-bot> Title: Bash pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:28] <robbiet480> its missing 3 files that it needs
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:37] <robbiet480> they are on the system its just i need to know where to put them
[25-Sep-2008 21:36:47] <robbiet480> a spotlight or local mysql.h would be helpful
[25-Sep-2008 21:37:47] <cgibbons> mine are in /usr/local/mysql-5.0.51b-osx10.5-x86/include/
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:10] <robbiet480> hrmm
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:10] <robbiet480> ok
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:16] <robbiet480> see unfournately this is leopard server
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:31] <cgibbons> that's using the regular download .dmg from mysql.org i think
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:48] <robbiet480> hrmmm. maybe ill just do my own sql server instead of the builtin
[25-Sep-2008 21:38:52] <robbiet480> i didnt even think of that
[25-Sep-2008 21:39:02] <cgibbons> do you have a MYSQL_HOME envvar set?
[25-Sep-2008 21:39:40] <robbiet480> dont think so
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:05] <cgibbons> that's prolly why
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:11] <cgibbons> the .dmg install adds it to your local profile
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:39] <cgibbons> this was in mine, for example:
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:43] <robbiet480> now i just gotta find where to set that to
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:45] <cgibbons> # MySQL environment
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:46] <cgibbons> export MYSQL_HOME=/usr/local/mysql
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:48] <cgibbons> export PATH=${MYSQL_HOME}/bin:${PATH}
[25-Sep-2008 21:40:48] <robbiet480> because again. leopard server
[25-Sep-2008 21:41:01] <cgibbons> yeah, maybe /etc/profile ?
[25-Sep-2008 21:41:34] <robbiet480> and then in /usr/local/mysql is what?
[25-Sep-2008 21:41:38] <robbiet480> bin include local and such?
[25-Sep-2008 21:42:33] <cgibbons> in my case mysql is a soft link to mysql-versionblahblahblah
[25-Sep-2008 21:42:35] <cgibbons> and then in there
[25-Sep-2008 21:42:52] <cgibbons> yeah bin, data, include, man, mysql-test, share, scripts, etc
[25-Sep-2008 21:43:56] <robbiet480> ok
[25-Sep-2008 21:43:57] <robbiet480> hang on
[25-Sep-2008 21:44:45] <robbiet480> its just the mysql-python which sucks
[25-Sep-2008 21:46:19] <robbiet480> i mean the whole thing would build if LD could find the lmysqlclient libraryr
[25-Sep-2008 21:47:13] <cgibbons> yeah
[25-Sep-2008 21:47:36] <robbiet480> im just gonna try installing via macports
[25-Sep-2008 21:47:38] <robbiet480> mysql i mean
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:22] <robbiet480> had a idea first
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:32] <robbiet480> linking the already installed mysql to /usr/local/mysql
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:33] <robbiet480> lets see
[25-Sep-2008 21:50:43] <robbiet480> can you do a ls of your /usr/local/mysql?
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:17] <cgibbons> of the link itself or the contents?
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:22] <robbiet480> contents
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:31] <cgibbons> COPYING configure* man/ support-files/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:33] <cgibbons> EXCEPTIONS-CLIENT data/ mysql-test/ tests/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:35] <cgibbons> INSTALL-BINARY docs/ scripts/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:36] <cgibbons> README include/ share/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:37] <cgibbons> bin/ lib/ sql-bench/
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:39] <cgibbons> not too spammy
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:41] <cgibbons> thats 5.0.51b
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:42] <robbiet480> lol
[25-Sep-2008 21:51:43] <robbiet480> perfect
[25-Sep-2008 21:53:28] <robbiet480> cross yer fingers
[25-Sep-2008 21:55:52] <robbiet480> yay. kinda
[25-Sep-2008 21:57:32] <robbiet480> OMG! it worked!
[25-Sep-2008 22:04:06] <robbiet480> thanks a bunch!
[25-Sep-2008 22:24:28] <cgibbons_> hurm
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[25-Sep-2008 22:24:53] <cgibbons> robbiet480: cool! just setting the link up?
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[26-Sep-2008 10:24:15] <Han> jmp242, I just added an ip service for a forwared device, thanks for your support.
[26-Sep-2008 10:26:44] <Han> But now I want to actually use that thing... And it's not documented... :-\
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[26-Sep-2008 14:52:33] <daMaestro> so, we have a fully loaded dell 2950 with 12G of ram and 8 cores... and it's having trouble dealing with zenoss
[26-Sep-2008 14:52:55] <daMaestro> it looks like mainly a limit on iops for the disk array
[26-Sep-2008 14:53:01] <daMaestro> has anyone used SSDs with zenoss?
[26-Sep-2008 14:53:20] * daMaestro is considering buying a couple of 16GB pros for a zenoss partition
[26-Sep-2008 15:15:56] <ke4qqq> daMaestro: you're kidding right?
[26-Sep-2008 15:16:25] <ke4qqq> I run Zenoss on a Dual P3 700 or something admittedly with a few 15krpm drives
[26-Sep-2008 15:29:02] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, i think the 15k drives help you a lot
[26-Sep-2008 15:29:36] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, right now it's running on raid5 PERC5 w/3 7200 SATA drives
[26-Sep-2008 15:30:07] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, we also tuned the rrd settings to keep a lot, lot more data
[26-Sep-2008 15:30:44] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, 1 minute for 24h , 5m for 7 days, 2h for 6 months and 12 hours for 2years for the rrd settings
[26-Sep-2008 15:31:48] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, how many devices?
[26-Sep-2008 15:31:58] <daMaestro> [are you monitoring]
[26-Sep-2008 15:34:48] <ke4qqq> ahhhh ok
[26-Sep-2008 15:35:07] <ke4qqq> wonder if a ram filesystem would help you -
[26-Sep-2008 16:37:32] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, i'm actually writing init scripts now
[26-Sep-2008 16:37:45] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, (for a ram fs)... the goal, though, is to just get SSDs
[26-Sep-2008 16:37:54] <daMaestro> ke4qqq, how many devices do you monitor?
[26-Sep-2008 16:38:34] <daMaestro> right now, with only about half our devices monitored, we have 9574 RRDs
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[26-Sep-2008 17:15:49] <ke4qqq> wow, I monitor only around 100 devices - so no where close to that -
[26-Sep-2008 17:18:11] <krphop> ke4qqq: what are your io/s on your array?
[26-Sep-2008 17:18:49] <ke4qqq> I honestly haven't looked in a long time - hang on
[26-Sep-2008 17:21:47] <omar> recently I've got this error message every time I add a template to any device:
[26-Sep-2008 17:21:50] <omar> Type: ConflictError
[26-Sep-2008 17:21:50] <omar> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x974d, class Products.ZenModel.Device.Device, serial this txn started with 0x03871efa3e330dfe 2010-06-28 00:58:14.577992, serial currently committed 0x03871efa3e330e2d 2010-06-28 00:58:14.577993)
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:04] <omar> running Zenoss 2.1.3
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:39] <omar> what I do is a zenoss restart so I can eventually add a template or device
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:47] <omar> but the problem remains...
[26-Sep-2008 17:22:50] <omar> any idea ?
[26-Sep-2008 17:24:46] <ke4qqq> krphop: pretty lousy actually just below 40MB/s once I get cache out of the way
[26-Sep-2008 17:25:13] <krphop> i mean acutal i/o operations per second
[26-Sep-2008 17:25:35] <krphop> most of the time with rrd's its not throughput issues, but just the number of operations that need to be processed
[26-Sep-2008 18:57:12] <magnachef> is it possible to ping multiple interfaces on a single server?
[26-Sep-2008 18:58:39] <texasthunder> why does zenoss not send out alerts unless syslog is configured?
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[27-Sep-2008 07:32:15] <Xserver> I am trying to figure out why zenoss doesnt apper on server:8080 after successful installation
[27-Sep-2008 08:07:52] <Waxmaker> You have to start it up, maybe? Depends on how you installed it.
[27-Sep-2008 08:10:56] <Xserver> well... i figured it out..
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:02] <Waxmaker> What was it?
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:29] <Xserver> it wasn't starter
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:31] <Xserver> started
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:36] <Xserver> had to manually start it up
[27-Sep-2008 08:11:46] <Waxmaker> That helps.
[27-Sep-2008 08:12:40] <Xserver> shall i have to import the MIB's or generic MIB's are already available ?
[27-Sep-2008 08:13:17] <Waxmaker> As far as I can tell--I'm new to this myself--there's a lot already in there.
[27-Sep-2008 08:13:56] <Waxmaker> But apparently it's trickier than the GUI leads you to believe, to import new ones.
[27-Sep-2008 08:15:18] <Waxmaker> Personally, I'd be happy if DellMonitor could just recognize my machines consistently. It seems to figure them out only about half the time.
[27-Sep-2008 10:29:45] <Xserver1> What are datapoints ?
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[28-Sep-2008 05:43:24] <krphop> how do i reset the admin password?
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[28-Sep-2008 06:15:19] <ecalix> using zenoss, is it possible to have it look at a switch using snmp and have it make a list of all the MAC addresses that it has learned and what port it learned the address on? Think of this being done with several switches and wanting to search via MAC address
[28-Sep-2008 09:31:26] <nemo2> must be
[28-Sep-2008 12:01:48] <shakespear> hi - does anyone know how I can add the option "--step 3600" to an custom rrd command (I need a per hour graph not an per second graph)
[28-Sep-2008 14:47:17] <ecalix> using zenoss, is it possible to have it look at a switch using snmp and have it make a list of all the MAC addresses that it has learned and what port it learned the address on? Think of this being done with several switches and wanting to search via MAC address
[28-Sep-2008 15:20:51] <nemo2> must be
[28-Sep-2008 15:22:15] <krphop> i'm not sure the mac table is available via snmp
[28-Sep-2008 15:29:44] <ecalix> any other ideas on that? basically i do events. sometimes we need to track people down because their sharing things we dont allow on the network (porn). which we tend to follow their mac through the switches
[28-Sep-2008 15:33:21] <krphop> ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/supportlists/wsc6509/wsc6509-communityIndexing.html
[28-Sep-2008 15:35:55] <Waxmaker> Interesting idea.
[28-Sep-2008 15:37:01] <Waxmaker> Windows users? Seems like it would be easier to trace them through their login ID.
[28-Sep-2008 15:38:44] <ecalix> unfortunatly since its an event with about 600 people that lasts for a couple days each time several times a year, we dont use AD. since they bring their own system we have zero control of it other than where they plug into the network
[28-Sep-2008 15:38:57] <Waxmaker> Ohh, I see.
[28-Sep-2008 15:39:17] <krphop> qos ftw
[28-Sep-2008 15:39:45] <ecalix> they have a table switch they plug into, then each table switch goes to our cisco 3560. currently to hunt somebody down we look at the mac address table on the cisco to see what port(table) they are at, then log into the table switch and do the same to see what port they are on
[28-Sep-2008 15:39:51] <krphop> flex95 them at like 2mb
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[28-Sep-2008 18:47:34] <ecalix> so i got a alert from a switch saying that one of its ports was running at high usage. How do I alter that? such as turn it off for all the 10/100 ports, but make the gig port have that rule/alert applied to it?
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[29-Sep-2008 07:49:11] <Xserver> anyone available ?
[29-Sep-2008 09:30:11] <indika> I m using zenoss 2.2 and it takes around 20 min to restart zenoss all demons...
[29-Sep-2008 09:30:40] <zanaga> which part takes the most time?
[29-Sep-2008 09:50:58] <indika> zeoctl and zopectl starts in few seconds... all other demons takes around 4 min each
[29-Sep-2008 10:03:49] <indika> my traffic graphs drawing also has stoped from today.... I just done restarting zenoss only..
[29-Sep-2008 10:19:55] <zanaga> hmm..
[29-Sep-2008 10:23:30] <zanaga> what happens if you try to ping localhost
[29-Sep-2008 10:32:12] <indika> zanaga, It pinging in less than 0.01ms.. also the load average is normal..
[29-Sep-2008 10:35:05] <zanaga> but did it take a while to start?
[29-Sep-2008 10:39:21] <indika> zeoctl and zopectl starts in few seconds... all other demons takes around 4 min each
[29-Sep-2008 10:39:58] <indika> zanaga, zeoctl and zopectl starts in few seconds... all other demons takes around 4 min each
[29-Sep-2008 10:40:21] <zanaga> i mean the ping. Did the ping command take a few seconds to start?
[29-Sep-2008 10:41:17] <indika> zanaga, no its starting quick..
[29-Sep-2008 10:42:49] <zanaga> hmm..
[29-Sep-2008 10:43:06] <zanaga> then it must be something internal to zenoss..
[29-Sep-2008 10:43:12] <zanaga> can't help you there though =(
[29-Sep-2008 10:44:24] <indika> zanga, ok thanks..
[29-Sep-2008 10:48:52] <indika> my traffic graphs drawing has stopped from today.... I just done restarting zenoss only..
[29-Sep-2008 10:49:01] <indika> what may be the problem
[29-Sep-2008 10:49:54] <indika> but all demons are working fine..
[29-Sep-2008 11:26:29] <Xserver> is it possible to bind a template to a group in zenoss ?
[29-Sep-2008 11:27:34] <Xserver> I am unable to see any performance graphs in zenoss
[29-Sep-2008 11:27:38] <Xserver> anyone awake ?
[29-Sep-2008 11:28:16] <tarjei> Xserver: it should be possible
[29-Sep-2008 11:29:03] <Xserver> tarjei : i have created a new template but i have no clue how to bind it to the group..
[29-Sep-2008 11:29:15] <Xserver> also.. my performance grahps doesnt show up
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:18] <lahirup> google map doesn't load in zenoss 2.2.3
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:32] <lahirup> following is the error detail
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Type: KeyError
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Value: '172.16.130.0'
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Traceback (innermost last):
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[29-Sep-2008 15:20:39] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[29-Sep-2008 15:21:10] <lahirup> google map doesn't load in zenoss 2.2.3
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:08] <lahirup> following is the error detail
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:13] <lahirup> Type: KeyError
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Value: '172.16.130.0'
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Traceback (innermost last):
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:14] <lahirup> Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:16] <lahirup> Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:18] <lahirup> Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:20] <lahirup> Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 195, in _exec
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:22] <lahirup> Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 134, in pt_render
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:24] <lahirup> Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 104, in pt_render
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:26] <lahirup> <FSPageTemplate at /zport/simpleLocationGeoMap used for /zport/dmd/Locations>
[29-Sep-2008 15:22:28] <lahirup> Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 206, in __call__
[29-Sep-2008 15:51:58] <omar> A remote windows server must be monitored from a Zenoss server through a vpn, but the company hosting this remote windows server won't open any SNMP for security reasons
[29-Sep-2008 15:52:37] <omar> What would you do to monitor SNMP remotely anyway.... maybe some web service that transforms from SNMP to HTTP... ??
[29-Sep-2008 15:52:41] <omar> any ideas ?
[29-Sep-2008 15:54:49] <tarjei> omar: tunnel snmp ? Feks through a ssh tunnel or a openvpn tunnel
[29-Sep-2008 15:56:32] <omar> the company hosting this remote server won't open any snmp ... that's they final word ....
[29-Sep-2008 15:57:15] <omar> I suppose tunneling snmp would require snmp listening ports, wouldn't it ?
[29-Sep-2008 15:58:51] <omar> ....
[29-Sep-2008 15:59:02] <omar> ok I've got you...
[29-Sep-2008 15:59:19] <omar> you mean using ssh to encrypt snmp.....
[29-Sep-2008 16:02:19] <omar> tarjei: thanks .... I've got your point....... tryin'....
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[30-Sep-2008 02:49:16] <KeithBilly> evening. if I might get some help? I'm trying to transform and event based on it's count. Aka after receiving x alerts, or after evt.count >= x i want evt.severity = 4
[30-Sep-2008 02:50:07] <KeithBilly> I have a simple if evt.count >= 5: evt.severity = 4 but this doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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[30-Sep-2008 05:39:31] <Xserver> anyone awake ?
[30-Sep-2008 09:29:41] <indika> My Google map gives an error while loading the dashboard after restoring zenoss-core 2.2.0 backup to 2.2.4 It shows entire zenoss page again inside the google portlet window... Instead of google map..
[30-Sep-2008 09:32:59] <j0ey> hey.. is it possible to use oracle as db-backend for zenoss?
[30-Sep-2008 09:50:22] <j0ey> noone?
[30-Sep-2008 11:34:30] <j0ey> well... once again...
[30-Sep-2008 11:34:30] <j0ey> hey.. is it possible to use oracle as db-backend for zenoss?
[30-Sep-2008 11:49:33] <tarjei> j0ey: I don't think so - but you can give me the licensing money for an oracle db if that may help
[30-Sep-2008 11:49:57] <tarjei> If you need scalability, consider a mysql cluster.
[30-Sep-2008 11:50:25] <tarjei> I haven't tested that myself though.
[30-Sep-2008 11:58:50] <j0ey> no.. oracle / mssql is a requirement by one of our customers
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[30-Sep-2008 15:18:25] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I am getting an interesting zenwin error. WMI connect error on sql2k5.keymark.dom: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/zenoss/var/zenwin/sql2k5.keymark.dom'
[30-Sep-2008 15:18:42] <ke4qqq> it's not looking for a directory (tried creating one of those and it complained about it being a directory
[30-Sep-2008 15:20:07] <ke4qqq> I tried touching that as a file but it subsequently disappeared
[30-Sep-2008 15:20:54] <ke4qqq> this is on 2.2.3 on Centos 4
[30-Sep-2008 15:53:41] <Teltariat> Greets folks
[30-Sep-2008 15:54:07] <Teltariat> I've installed Zenoss, but I'm getting a "faultCode 8002 faultString Unauthorized" when I attempt to access its web portal
[30-Sep-2008 15:54:10] <Teltariat> Any ideas?
[30-Sep-2008 17:17:20] <MoutaPT> hi everyone, i've installed zenoss in FC7 in newer server as well as tested VMware appliacne
[30-Sep-2008 17:17:39] <MoutaPT> i'm newbie on it, the problem is that http is running for localhost in both cases
[30-Sep-2008 17:17:56] <MoutaPT> and it doesn't use apache only Medusa From Python i believe
[30-Sep-2008 17:18:13] <MoutaPT> how do i enable http for remeote acess?
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:05] <MoutaPT> any one here?
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:13] <daMaestro> so, how can we reset device uptime stats?
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:17] <daMaestro> MoutaPT, n
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:18] <daMaestro> o
[30-Sep-2008 17:23:50] <MoutaPT> daMaestro, do you know how to enable http on public ip address of my zenoss
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:07] <MoutaPT> tested new installation and vm appliance all listen only at localhost...
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:19] <MoutaPT> they don't run apache...
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:30] <daMaestro> MoutaPT, the best way is to use mod_proxy with apache
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:50] <MoutaPT> i thought that doing a basics install
[30-Sep-2008 17:24:53] <MoutaPT> would enable it
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:15] <daMaestro> nope
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:23] <daMaestro> zope, by default, listens on port 8080
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:28] <MoutaPT> that's something new no?
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:49] <daMaestro> you could tell zope to listen on 80, but the ideal way to do this is to use apache on port 80 and mod_proxy to zope
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:52] <MoutaPT> one year ago i tested it and just downloaded vmware
[30-Sep-2008 17:25:58] <ke4qqq> MoutaPT: no, been that way since 1.x
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:02] <ke4qqq> at least
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:04] <MoutaPT> h:)
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:06] <ke4qqq> maybe before that
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:08] <MoutaPT> cool!
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:11] <MoutaPT> nice to know
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:17] <MoutaPT> i was getting crazy
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:19] <MoutaPT> with this
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:35] <MoutaPT> easy command line for zope to 80
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:36] <MoutaPT> ?
[30-Sep-2008 17:26:47] <MoutaPT> just to test.. i will install apache
[30-Sep-2008 17:31:47] <daMaestro> gah, there has got to be a way to reset availability via the API
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[30-Sep-2008 17:37:11] <nemo2> so whp upgraded from 2.2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:37:17] <nemo2> who*
[30-Sep-2008 17:37:23] <nemo2> i only just sorted out 2.2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:37:28] <nemo2> i dont wanna be the first
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:26] <ke4qqq> nemo2: is there a new release?
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:37] <nemo2> i got an email that there was
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:39] <nemo2> you didnt ?
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:44] <nemo2> 2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:46] <ke4qqq> hmmm no
[30-Sep-2008 17:39:57] <ke4qqq> but yeah 2.2.4 is out
[30-Sep-2008 17:41:06] <nemo2> no i am mixed up, some new features are waiting for me in 2.3
[30-Sep-2008 17:41:27] <nemo2> but yes its 2.2.4 thats just been releasesd
[30-Sep-2008 17:41:31] <nemo2> released*
[30-Sep-2008 17:42:06] <ke4qqq> interesting - well I think I'll apply that and see what happens
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:21] <daMaestro> ok, after so research (and a few quick scripts) i've found that availability is calculated by events in mysql
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:33] <daMaestro> is there any way to programatically clear events for a given device?
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:44] <daMaestro> (clear even history)
[30-Sep-2008 17:49:47] <daMaestro> event*
[30-Sep-2008 17:50:22] <daMaestro> ah, there is a stored procedure
[30-Sep-2008 17:50:30] <daMaestro> i wonder if there is a call on the Device object that I can make?
[30-Sep-2008 18:18:28] <MoutaPT> daMaestro do you use apache virtual host with mod proxy loaded?
[30-Sep-2008 18:21:30] <daMaestro> MoutaPT, yes
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:00] <MoutaPT> can you just past the entry you have for virutal host?
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:31] <MoutaPT> ProxyPass / http://localhost:8080
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:55] <MoutaPT> ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8080
[30-Sep-2008 18:22:57] <adytum-bot> Title: Zope (at localhost:8080)
[30-Sep-2008 18:36:55] <daMaestro> http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/manage_main
[30-Sep-2008 18:37:13] <daMaestro> lol
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[30-Sep-2008 19:50:57] <Khazwerk> heellloooooo
[30-Sep-2008 19:51:06] <Khazwerk> trying to get IIS events to Zenoss from an IIS 6 box
[30-Sep-2008 19:51:09] <Khazwerk> any advice?
[30-Sep-2008 19:53:47] <Khazwerk>
[30-Sep-2008 19:56:38] <ke4qqq> use wmi
[30-Sep-2008 19:56:50] <Khazwerk> doesn't pull iis
[30-Sep-2008 19:56:56] <Khazwerk> just event log
[30-Sep-2008 19:57:18] <ke4qqq> you'll have to tell it what to pull I assume WMI has access to that type of data
[30-Sep-2008 19:57:43] <Khazwerk> they're log files in the sys32 dir
[30-Sep-2008 19:57:52] <Khazwerk> so if I can get at them with wmi I'm unsure how
[30-Sep-2008 19:59:24] <ke4qqq> just upgraded to 2.2.4, and now zenwin's log shows this.... and I get connect error on machine.tld: 88: DOS code 0x00000058
[30-Sep-2008 20:01:21] <ke4qqq> Khazwerk: check the wiki
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:12] <Khazwerk> have, am
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:15] <Khazwerk> just trying here also
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:43] <ke4qqq> and the zenwin log error message: http://fpaste.org/paste/6777
[30-Sep-2008 20:02:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6777 (at fpaste.org)
[30-Sep-2008 20:05:18] <ke4qqq> and yet more http://fpaste.org/paste/6778
[30-Sep-2008 20:05:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #6778 (at fpaste.org)
[30-Sep-2008 22:38:52] Tinozaure is now known as _Tino
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