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[01-Dec-2007 00:10:15] <rchrch> Can anyone help me with __of__()? Where is this defined for RRDDataSource?
[01-Dec-2007 00:10:34] <rchrch> I have tracked it down as far as RelationshipManager but I get lost in the inheritance hierarchy past that point.
[01-Dec-2007 00:15:26] <rchrch> Is there a general inheritance diagram for the Zenoss classes?
[01-Dec-2007 00:27:49] <rchrch> Hmm, thought I'd tracked it down to PropertySheets.py but guess not
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[01-Dec-2007 04:50:50] <murphys_law> so i challenge anyone to tell me they've compiled 2.1.1 themselves and got it to work
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[01-Dec-2007 14:24:11] <Bulwinkle> murphys_law: define compiled
[01-Dec-2007 15:29:41] <murphys_law> bullwinkle: well as in "tar xzf zenoss-2.1.1-0.tar.gz; cd zenoss-2.1.1; ./install; cd /usr/local/zenoss; bin/zenoss start"
[01-Dec-2007 15:30:34] <murphys_law> with a few answers needed when running ./install of course
[01-Dec-2007 15:38:16] <murphys_law> it does compile, but python errors importing snmp when starting zenmodeler and one other of the binaries
[01-Dec-2007 15:38:29] <murphys_law> error is consistent across platforms
[01-Dec-2007 16:35:43] <Bulwinkle> murphys_law: I'm running fine on openSUSE 10.2
[01-Dec-2007 17:01:17] <murphys_law> bulwinkle: self-compiled 2.1.1 with no alterations?
[01-Dec-2007 17:04:39] <murphys_law> i'll download opensuse 10.2 and give it a try. thanks!
[01-Dec-2007 17:12:35] <Bulwinkle> murphys_law: have a look in the forums...  I put up a HOWTO
[01-Dec-2007 20:33:22] <dan__t> I tried rebuilding the SRPM the other day, didn't go over too well.
[01-Dec-2007 20:33:36] <dan__t> ZENOSS_HOME is not respected from the spec, into the subsequent build and configuration.
[01-Dec-2007 20:34:29] <dan__t> Gotta run some errands, I'll bbl and elaborate.
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[02-Dec-2007 18:54:06] <nated> Does anyone know how to monitor a Cisco VPN concentrator? I'd like it to know about the lan-to-lan tunnels we have for dependancy resolution
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[02-Dec-2007 23:56:18] <darkhorse> I know zenping builds a "network tree" to determing what devices depend on each other... And say i have zenoss -> router a -> router b -> server x
[02-Dec-2007 23:56:55] <darkhorse> if the link between router a and router b goes down then it doesnt report that server x is down (which is good) however it does alert me to all the services on server x being down
[02-Dec-2007 23:57:19] <darkhorse> is this how it was intended or is there a way to make thoes supressed until the link between routers is resolved
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[03-Dec-2007 03:49:52] <dishwasher> hello everybody
[03-Dec-2007 04:03:13] <dishwasher> Southron: hi, you are developer or admin?
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[03-Dec-2007 14:13:30] <nated> anyone add a cisco vpn 3005 to zenoss?
[03-Dec-2007 14:13:51] <nated> I'm trying out zenoss core and it seems to not see the interfaces
[03-Dec-2007 14:14:36] <Bulwinkle> nated: I've gotten it to work in a previous life
[03-Dec-2007 14:15:58] <nated> anything special required?
[03-Dec-2007 14:16:22] <nated> the docs say it presents standard MIB-II, but...
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[03-Dec-2007 15:25:37] <nated> here's a dumb question... Is there an easy way to graph ping time for a device? Maybe even have an alert threshold?
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[03-Dec-2007 18:43:33] <fiXXXerMet> Does anyone know where I can find a .mib file for a Dell PowerEdge 860?
[03-Dec-2007 18:48:14] <PerlStalker> fiXXXerMet: Dell's website?
[03-Dec-2007 18:57:42] adelhier is now known as Gamekiller
[03-Dec-2007 18:57:57] <Gamekiller> good morning Zenoss people
[03-Dec-2007 18:58:18] <Gamekiller> i installing 2.1.1 via the tar ball and i am getting an error at the end of the ./install.sh
[03-Dec-2007 18:58:29] <Gamekiller> error 2 pywmi - installer
[03-Dec-2007 18:58:35] <Gamekiller> any help to get around this
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[03-Dec-2007 19:00:28] <Gamekiller> o wait it is swig
[03-Dec-2007 19:16:36] <rchrch> Has anyone ever seen an error like: "AttributeError: 'OtmUrlDataSource' object has no attribute '__of__'
[03-Dec-2007 19:16:36] <rchrch> " in ZenHub.log?
[03-Dec-2007 19:17:02] <rchrch> Full stacktrace is here: http://rchrch.pastebin.com/m2e5ec39e and source to the datasource FWIW is here: http://rchrch.pastebin.com/d6ef361b3
[03-Dec-2007 19:17:10] <adytum-bot> Title: rchrch private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at rchrch.pastebin.com)
[03-Dec-2007 19:17:11] <adytum-bot> Title: rchrch private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at rchrch.pastebin.com)
[03-Dec-2007 19:20:42] <rchrch> I can't quite track down where the __of__() method is defined in the RRDDataSource inheritance tree
[03-Dec-2007 19:35:06] <tuxero> hi!. how are you ?
[03-Dec-2007 19:35:41] <tuxero> any body wake up ?
[03-Dec-2007 19:37:37] <tuxero> i have a question about the Throughput graph in a cisco router
[03-Dec-2007 19:39:49] <tuxero> Mrtg graphic of correct values for example 30 meg traffic in
[03-Dec-2007 19:40:05] <tuxero> and 20 traffic out but zenoss it deforms incorrect chart
[03-Dec-2007 19:40:22] <tuxero> showing graphic equivalent 3 mb OUT IN 2 mb
[03-Dec-2007 19:40:59] <tuxero> the Threshold max value is here.speed*100 / 8 * .75
[03-Dec-2007 19:41:07] <tuxero> here.speed / 8 * .75
[03-Dec-2007 19:41:31] <tuxero> how i can put the correct values ??
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[03-Dec-2007 20:57:16] <rchrch> I figured out that __of__() method problem I've been having for a few days
[03-Dec-2007 20:57:57] <rchrch> It wasn't in the datasource at all... the code is fine. I can install the Zenpack and it will work, just as long as I delete the zenbuh.zec and zeo.zec files from /opt/zenoss/var/ ....
[03-Dec-2007 20:58:15] <rchrch> Anyone know what those zec files are and why they might cause that problem with __of__()?
[03-Dec-2007 21:19:50] <davetoo> The .zec files are zope cache files
[03-Dec-2007 21:50:40] <bts3685> planning on upgrading from 1.1.2 to 2.0.x (not 2.1.x). anyone know of any bugs or issues or things to worry about during the upgrade?
[03-Dec-2007 22:07:18] <rchrch> Are class definitions cached in the zope cache?
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[04-Dec-2007 12:14:14] <shibby_laptop> 2.0
[04-Dec-2007 14:11:22] <klinstifen> greetings all
[04-Dec-2007 14:11:38] <klinstifen> i have a custom command that isn't being picked up by zencommand
[04-Dec-2007 14:11:46] <klinstifen> if i run zencommand -run -d mydevice -v10
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:02] <klinstifen> it is shown "shcedule has 1 commands" and everything looks to run fine
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:14] <klinstifen> but if i go to the zencommand daemon it doesn't show up
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:31] <klinstifen> how does a custom command get registered with zencommand?
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:39] <klinstifen> with the zencommand scheduler
[04-Dec-2007 14:38:30] <klinstifen> anyone know why a custom command wouldn't be added to the zencommand scheduler?
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[04-Dec-2007 15:37:00] <jamesc> trying to get my locations to show up in the Google portlet. All have addresses associated with them and have worked in the past, but for reason(s) unknown suddenly disappeared and haven't been seen on the portal in some time.
[04-Dec-2007 15:40:06] <klinstifen> did you delete the geocache?
[04-Dec-2007 15:40:40] <klinstifen> jamesc, i think if you delete the geocache it will recreate it and get rid of any corruption
[04-Dec-2007 15:48:18] <mot> question
[04-Dec-2007 15:48:24] <mot> i've got snmpd/snmptrapd running on a host system
[04-Dec-2007 15:48:32] <mot> but zenoos is saying that the snmpd agent is down on that system - any ideas?
[04-Dec-2007 15:51:39] <klinstifen> perhaps the zSnmpCommunity is not properly set in the zProperties?
[04-Dec-2007 15:51:48] <klinstifen> so it can't communicate with the host
[04-Dec-2007 15:52:02] <klinstifen> or the zSnmpVer isn't right
[04-Dec-2007 15:52:19] <mot> where do i go to check both of those?
[04-Dec-2007 15:54:18] <jamesc> I can never remember how to clear the geocache
[04-Dec-2007 15:54:45] <jamesc> ah, don't bother - finally found it
[04-Dec-2007 15:54:50] <klinstifen> mot, go to your device/host
[04-Dec-2007 15:55:02] <klinstifen> click the down arrow - more - zproperties
[04-Dec-2007 15:55:33] <mot> thanks
[04-Dec-2007 15:56:13] <klinstifen> jamesc, mine is located at http://zenoss-server/zport/dmd/Devices/manage
[04-Dec-2007 15:56:18] <klinstifen> then click on the properties tab
[04-Dec-2007 15:56:33] <klinstifen> and find the geocache  text box, delete what's in there and click Save Changes
[04-Dec-2007 15:57:20] <mot> what do i want to change my zCommunity to?
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:08] <klinstifen> whatever you specified on the host
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:12] <klinstifen> what os is your host?
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:31] <klinstifen> public is the industry default community name
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:34] <klinstifen> you could try that
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:44] <klinstifen> but you need to specify it on the host as well
[04-Dec-2007 15:59:43] <mot> os is linux
[04-Dec-2007 15:59:51] <mot> where would that be on the host, snmpd.conf?
[04-Dec-2007 16:00:11] <jamesc> seems OK now, thanks
[04-Dec-2007 16:00:45] <klinstifen> jamesc, welcome
[04-Dec-2007 16:00:48] <klinstifen> mot, yeah
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:06] <mot> damnit
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:10] <mot> the community is right
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:18] <mot> i still can't run a snmpwalk on the system remotely though
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:23] <mot> i hate this shit. snmpd is the biggest piece of shit ever.
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:53] <klinstifen> : ) dude, i totally feel your pain
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:58] <klinstifen> took me a while to get it working
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:25] <mot> i don't know what else to change
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:33] <mot> there's very little docs on what everything means and how to configure it
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:33] <klinstifen> i think you may need a line like this in your config
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:51] <klinstifen> errr do you have a line like this: com2sec local localhost public
[04-Dec-2007 16:03:18] <mot> com2sec paranoid  default         public
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:14] <jamesc> klistifen: sorted - found out that google maps didn't like one of my locations addresses.
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:24] <klinstifen> comment that line out (put a # at the beginning)
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:35] <jamesc> bit annoying that this seems to break maps for all the other locations.
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:36] <klinstifen> jamesc, ah ok cool
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:43] <klinstifen> mot, then change it to:
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:50] <klinstifen> com2sec local localhost public
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:00] <klinstifen> with tabs, not spaces in between each word
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:20] <mot> is whitespace important?
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:21] <klinstifen> and also add
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:38] <dball> mot,klinstifen: have you tried using the snmpconf utility to setup snmp on linux using a console menu?
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:42] <klinstifen> com2sec localNet <your zenoss server ip> public
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:56] <mot> dball: no because i don't know what half of the stuff means
[04-Dec-2007 16:06:00] <klinstifen> dball, i suggested that to him yesterday
[04-Dec-2007 16:06:22] <dball> if you just want basic snmp, setup with communities, location name, and contact name, there's only 2 menus you need to use.
[04-Dec-2007 16:06:35] <mot> which are?
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:04] <dball> mot: the access control seutp, and system information agent. want me to walk you through it?
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:06] <klinstifen> mot, i think one of those links explained those two menus as well
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:13] <klinstifen> yeah those..
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:15] <mot> hang on let me fire it up
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:18] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:20] <dball> oh,
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:27] <klinstifen> nice
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:30] <dball> when you run it. you need to use a flag so thatit copies to the right location.
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:36] <dball> i think it's -o..but lemme check.
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:49] <mot> -i
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:51] <dball> yep
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:56] <dball> just found it.
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:04] <dball> ok. lemme know when you're ready.
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:18] <mot> my config is in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:22] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:34] <mot> alright i'm ready
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:45] <dball> ok. go to option 1 (access control setup)
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:01] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:13] <dball> then select option 3 to create a snmpv2c read-only comm.
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:22] <mot> okay
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:29] <dball> type the name of the community, and press enter.
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:41] <mot> does it matter what name?
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:43] <mot> can i just do "public" ?
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:58] <dball> if you're worried about security, i wouldn't use public.
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:04] <dball> you can make up any name you want. just remember it. :P
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:36] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:42] <mot> hostname is the ip of my zenoss host yea?
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:43] <dball> after you type in the community name and press enter, just press enter through the next two questions it asks.
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:49] <mot> ah
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:51] <dball> it'll return you to the access control menu.  lemme know when you're there.
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:58] <mot> there
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:00] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:09] <dball> type 'f' to return to the main menu.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:37] <dball> then go to option 5 to setup the location and contact info.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:39] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:47] <dball> type 1 to set the location.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:58] <dball> just type in whatever location name you want,a nd press enter.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:10] <dball> then type 2 to set the contact, and then type the contact name and press enter.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:17] <mot> alright, and i tossed in my email for the contact info
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:20] <mot> what about sysServices?
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:22] <dball> type 'f' to return to the main menu again.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:31] <mot> okay
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:32] <dball> don't worry about it.  not needed to just get snmp working.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:46] <dball> that's about all the basic info needed.  press f again.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:50] <dball> then q to quit.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:04] <dball> i normally overwrite my existing snmpd.conf file, but you do as you need.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:08] <mot> hmm
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:13] <mot> hang on, i ran snmpconf -i
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:19] <dball> yeah.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:24] <mot> and it wrote to /usr/share/snmp
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:28] <dball> yeah.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:30] <dball> that's fine too.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:32] <mot> but i have config files in /etc/snmp/
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:39] <dball> yeah. i have config files in BOTH.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:49] <dball> but i think it uses the /usr/share/snmp one by default.  i might be wrong on that.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:59] <dball> now, all you need to do is restart snmp
[04-Dec-2007 16:14:18] <mot> should i just delete the one in /etc/snmp/ and symlink the one from /usr/share that i just created?
[04-Dec-2007 16:14:26] <dball> i don't think you need to.
[04-Dec-2007 16:14:42] <dball> i would just leave it in /usr/share/snmp and restart snmpd and test it.
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:05] <mot> hmmm
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:16] <mot> if i do /etc/init./snmpd start like normal
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:27] <mot> it just says: Starting network management services:.
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:31] <dball> yeah. if it's already started, do "restart" instead of "start"
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:36] <mot> then `px -aus |grep snmpd` yields nothing..
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:41] <dball> hmm..
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:52] <dball> sorry.
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:58] <dball> you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/snmpd
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:04] <dball> forgot to put the sudo
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:07] <mot> im already root.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:09] <dball> oh.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:11] <dball> hmm.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:12] <mot> =\
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:17] <dball> what's /var/log/messages say?
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:31] <mot> nothing relevant
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:45] <dball> is it already started?
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:50] <dball> wait.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:55] <mot> it won't start
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:58] <dball> you already checked that. :P
[04-Dec-2007 16:17:04] <mot> it was at least starting before i reconfigured.
[04-Dec-2007 16:17:19] <dball> what distro are you using?
[04-Dec-2007 16:17:52] <mot> got it
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:03] <mot> snmpd looks for snmpd.conf in /etc/snmp/
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:06] <mot> (debian etch)
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:13] <mot> i just copied it over from /usr/share and it started
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:14] <dball> gotcha.
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:19] <dball> i'm on SuSE.
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:20] <mot> snmp 3089 1.4 0.7 8000 3916 ? S 07:24 0:00 /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:49] <dball> cool.
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:49] <mot> gah, snmpwalk still won't work =\
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:54] <dball> ARG.
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:09] <dball> yo did copy the right one over right? :P
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:13] <mot> yea
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:16] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:25] <mot> on hang on
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:26] <dball> are you walking it on he local machine, or on another machine?
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:32] <mot> i need to change my zCommunity yes?
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:38] <dball> yeah.
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:49] <dball> the zsnmpcommunity to whatever you set the snmpd community to.
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:34] <mot> grr
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:39] <dball> nothing still?
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:47] <dball> do you have a firewall on that debian box?
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:50] <dball> is snmp allowed?
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:57] <mot> nope, they're both virtual hosts on the same host
[04-Dec-2007 16:22:11] <mot> snmpwalk won't worked from zenoss, still, though
[04-Dec-2007 16:22:58] <dball> i dont' know how, but do ou know how to do an snmpwalk on that box to see if a) snmp isn't working or b) it won't work from zenoss remotely.
[04-Dec-2007 16:23:18] <mot> i just a snmpwalk on the box locally and it works
[04-Dec-2007 16:23:22] <mot> it just won't work from zenoss
[04-Dec-2007 16:23:59] <dball> hmmm...
[04-Dec-2007 16:25:11] <mot> =\
[04-Dec-2007 16:26:26] <dball> is it outputting anything to logs now?
[04-Dec-2007 16:26:33] <mot> nadda
[04-Dec-2007 16:27:14] <dball> well...this sucks.
[04-Dec-2007 16:27:56] <mot> yea
[04-Dec-2007 16:27:58] <dball> ok. so if it works locally, then snmpd is working...
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:03] <mot> right
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:14] <dball> and you have no firewall on that debian vm...
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:20] <mot> nope
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:30] <dball> is the zenperfsnmp service working on zenoss?
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:35] <mot> ?
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:37] <dball> i'm actually having a problem with that one myself.
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:49] <dball> zenperfsnmp is the service that handles snmp queries from zenoss.
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:53] <dball> (I think)
[04-Dec-2007 16:29:08] <mot> where's it located?
[04-Dec-2007 16:29:17] <dball> in zenoss, under settings, daemons, yu can see if zenperfsnmp is running, and view it's logs.
[04-Dec-2007 16:32:26] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:33:42] <mot> 2007-12-04 17:11:15 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: Failed to collect on 35.9.11.205 (twisted.python.failure.Failure: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.TimeoutError: User timeout caused connection failure.
[04-Dec-2007 16:33:42] <mot> ])
[04-Dec-2007 16:33:47] <mot> does that make any sense to you?
[04-Dec-2007 16:56:51] <Gamekiller77> ok i must be missing something here as i am not sure how enter in my network subnets for auto detect
[04-Dec-2007 16:56:57] <Gamekiller77> is there is a setting for this
[04-Dec-2007 16:58:13] <Gamekiller77> or am i missing something for Zendes to work
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:04] <Gamekiller77> ok am i in the wrong room for community support
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:14] <klinstifen> nah right room
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:17] <klinstifen> but its quiet
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:24] <klinstifen> ...a lot
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:41] <klinstifen> so you want to do network autodetect?
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:48] <Gamekiller77> ok i have a new install of zenoss what eles do i need to do to make sure i have a good install
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:00] <klinstifen> have you tried to add a device?
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:06] <Gamekiller77> well not really i know the subnets i want to enter them in so the can detect on them
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:10] <Gamekiller77> yah did not work
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:20] <Gamekiller77> where do i put the IP what field
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:30] <klinstifen> to add a device or a network?
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:42] <Gamekiller77> both
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:47] <klinstifen> to add a device
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:00] <Gamekiller77> sorry an ip to the device
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:00] <klinstifen> click add device at bottom left
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:21] <klinstifen> then in the Device Name enter the ip or hostname
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:26] <Gamekiller77> yah i tried that but i was not clear where the IP of the device should go
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:28] <Gamekiller77> ooo ok
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:30] <Gamekiller77> go it
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:57] <klinstifen> if snmp is enabled on the device then leave discovery protocol set to snmp otherwise set it to none
[04-Dec-2007 17:24:10] <Gamekiller77> and the add a subnet for auto detect is easy i hope
[04-Dec-2007 17:24:18] <Gamekiller77> ok
[04-Dec-2007 17:25:00] <Gamekiller77> let see if i can add my router
[04-Dec-2007 17:26:35] <Gamekiller77> ok i got my core switch/router to go
[04-Dec-2007 17:27:10] <klinstifen> cool
[04-Dec-2007 17:27:42] <Gamekiller77> now how do i get it to detect the rest of my snmp devices
[04-Dec-2007 17:27:50] <Gamekiller77> auto detect
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:24] <klinstifen> you would go to Networks on the left hand side
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:32] <klinstifen> then click the drop down for the correct subnetwork
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:36] <klinstifen> and select auto-detect
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:53] <klinstifen> but that will detect everything not just snmp
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:56] <Gamekiller77> see i did not see any subnets
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:11] <klinstifen> what do you see in networks
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:29] <Gamekiller77> now i do
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:31] <Gamekiller77> lol
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:33] <Gamekiller77> cool
[04-Dec-2007 17:30:12] <Gamekiller77> and i am off
[04-Dec-2007 17:30:22] <Gamekiller77> thank you so much
[04-Dec-2007 17:30:55] <klinstifen> welcome
[04-Dec-2007 17:31:11] <klinstifen> i got a q about custom commands
[04-Dec-2007 17:31:22] <klinstifen> anyone available for some q and a?
[04-Dec-2007 17:32:08] <Gamekiller77> i would not mind watching that chat i want to learn as much as i can about this
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:18] <klinstifen> well my command runs successfully from everywhere except by zencommand on a regular basis
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:31] <Gamekiller77> that is odd
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:35] <klinstifen> if i test from my command line everything is great
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:37] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:54] <Gamekiller77> logged in as the zenoss user
[04-Dec-2007 17:35:04] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:17] <Gamekiller77> so it dose not run under zenoss?
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:36] <klinstifen> well it doesn't run as a part of the scheduler...least that's how it looks
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:51] <Gamekiller77> you checked the PID
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:57] <klinstifen> i let it sit there for about an hour and nothing happened
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:08] <Gamekiller77> odd
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:10] <klinstifen> then i run zencommand run -d mydevice -v10 and poof it worked
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:31] <Gamekiller77> i have not worked with the scheduler yet
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:34] <klinstifen> how would i check the PID?
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:51] <Gamekiller77> well zencommand status
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:58] <Gamekiller77> see what it running as
[04-Dec-2007 17:38:31] <klinstifen> ok got that
[04-Dec-2007 17:38:54] <klinstifen> it's running as zenoss
[04-Dec-2007 17:41:28] <Gamekiller77> then what dose it run in the scheduler
[04-Dec-2007 17:41:49] <Gamekiller77> i am new but the status thing i got familar
[04-Dec-2007 17:43:13] <klinstifen> i'm pretty sure it runs the same thing
[04-Dec-2007 17:43:26] <klinstifen> but the file doesn't update
[04-Dec-2007 17:43:30] <klinstifen> unless i do it manually
[04-Dec-2007 17:45:13] <Gamekiller77> yah that odd
[04-Dec-2007 17:51:14] <Gamekiller77> now is there any big problem with the snmp windows app
[04-Dec-2007 17:51:18] <Gamekiller77> for got what it is called
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:00] <klinstifen> like security concerns?
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:04] <klinstifen> snmp informant
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:06] <klinstifen> is the name
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:10] <Gamekiller77> yes
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:17] <Gamekiller77> security is my concern
[04-Dec-2007 17:55:21] <dball> mot: sorry i was away. that's the same problem i'm having. I have no idea what it means. I was told i need to update pynetsnmp, but i don't have subversion installed, and i'm having problem with it.
[04-Dec-2007 17:57:41] <klinstifen> dball, i am having trouble with a custom command i've implemented in one of templates...are you familiar with custom commands?
[04-Dec-2007 17:58:09] <dball> klinstifen:  no, sorry. I haven't started working on that yet.
[04-Dec-2007 17:59:53] <Gamekiller77> what soe the snmp informent offer
[04-Dec-2007 17:59:56] <Gamekiller77> dose*
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:10] <klinstifen> access to device information on a windows box
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:20] <klinstifen> hardware information
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:23] <Gamekiller77> oo ok
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:37] <Gamekiller77> so above the normal snmp stuff windows would send
[04-Dec-2007 18:02:14] <Gamekiller77> i may run that on a couple of servers
[04-Dec-2007 18:04:22] <Gamekiller77> ok this is so going to help me map my network out
[04-Dec-2007 18:04:32] <Gamekiller77> i have missing wifi access points
[04-Dec-2007 18:25:31] <synic> I've put a custom command to check the status of a software raid device in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf .. I can see the results of the command via snmpwalk, how do I see it from zenoss?
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[04-Dec-2007 18:26:51] <klinstifen> create a datasource that has the proper OID
[04-Dec-2007 18:27:01] <klinstifen> the one you see when you snmpwalk
[04-Dec-2007 18:27:06] <synic> ok
[04-Dec-2007 18:28:29] <synic> like .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8 ?
[04-Dec-2007 18:29:17] <klinstifen> yeah but you might want to drop the leading period and add a .0 to the end
[04-Dec-2007 18:30:55] <klinstifen> then add a datapoint
[04-Dec-2007 18:30:59] <klinstifen> and then create a graph
[04-Dec-2007 18:31:10] <klinstifen> attach that template to your device and away you go
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[04-Dec-2007 19:18:19] <nws> hola
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:07] <synic> klinstifen: ok, I'm having quite the time trying to figure out where to add this datasource and associate it with one of my servers
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:16] <klinstifen> ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:21] <klinstifen> no prob
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:22] <klinstifen> click on your device
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:33] <klinstifen> then click the drop down arrow and go to more - templates
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:50] <synic> k
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:36] <klinstifen> click the drop down next to Performance...
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:39] <klinstifen> and select Add
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:53] <klinstifen> put in a name
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:57] <klinstifen> then click ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:25:01] <klinstifen> then click the name that you typed
[04-Dec-2007 19:25:59] <synic> ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:02] <synic> I see
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:26] <klinstifen> cool
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:45] <synic> now, why did I need to drop the leading . and add a .0 on the end of the OID?
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:54] <klinstifen> if you were to apply this template to many devices then you would create it on a higher level
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:01] <klinstifen> like /devices/servers/windows
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:04] <klinstifen> or something like that
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:15] <synic> I see
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:18] <klinstifen> because that's the way Zenoss likes it
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:27] <klinstifen> especially the .0
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:52] <klinstifen> i'm not sure about the leading period but i know that if you omit the .0 then sometimes it won't give you the right info
[04-Dec-2007 19:29:08] <synic> hrmm, do I need to do anything with the "datapoint" info?
[04-Dec-2007 19:30:19] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 19:30:43] <klinstifen> add a datapoint
[04-Dec-2007 19:30:52] <klinstifen> what are you collecting?
[04-Dec-2007 19:31:26] <synic> software raid status information
[04-Dec-2007 19:32:59] <klinstifen> ok well the datapoint name would be something that makes sense
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:08] <klinstifen> if you were getting read/write info
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:27] <klinstifen> the datasource name could be hdd_reads
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:34] <klinstifen> and the datapoint name would be count
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:37] <klinstifen> or something like that
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:52] <klinstifen> but typically you can just make the datapoint name the same as the datasourcename
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:56] <synic> ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:59] <klinstifen> and thats what you'll want to do
[04-Dec-2007 19:34:04] <klinstifen> since you are collecting via snmp
[04-Dec-2007 19:53:37] <nws> does anyone have an idea what might happen if i install an rpm for RHEL5 on to a Debian system?
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[04-Dec-2007 19:58:35] <nws> it would be better to create an rpm from the debian source tarball, correct?
[04-Dec-2007 20:03:50] <lorth> hello anyone in here for zenoss questions?
[04-Dec-2007 20:04:52] <lorth> hello?
[04-Dec-2007 20:06:14] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 20:06:32] <lorth> hi i am having a issue here
[04-Dec-2007 20:07:42] <klinstifen> k
[04-Dec-2007 20:08:07] <nws> hahah
[04-Dec-2007 20:08:47] <klinstifen> ...
[04-Dec-2007 20:08:50] <klinstifen> what's the issue?
[04-Dec-2007 20:09:02] <lorth> I uploaded the dell open manage mibs, and want to pull open manage performance stats. How do i add these to existing performance template so i can see some graphs for cooling fans - power etc...
[04-Dec-2007 20:10:43] <klinstifen> you have to manually confgirue performance templates based on the OIDs
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:00] <lorth> ok can you walk me through a quick test please?
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:05] <klinstifen> but I think there is a Dell zenpack that might work too
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:18] <nws> lol
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:29] <lorth> well i downloaded the 2950 zenpack but have had no luck with it
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:37] <nws> "i can't be bothered to read the docs, please have someone do my job for me"
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:43] <lorth> not at all
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:50] <lorth> i have read the docs
[04-Dec-2007 20:12:30] <nws> yea...
[04-Dec-2007 20:17:46] <klinstifen> lorth, do you have an OID for the fan you want to monitor?
[04-Dec-2007 20:18:24] <lorth> well i have a 2950 and i assumed the ones from the zenpack were prob the ones to use.
[04-Dec-2007 20:18:48] <lorth> i have tried binding that template with my default but no luck
[04-Dec-2007 20:19:15] <lorth> it shows up binded but no performance graphs coming up
[04-Dec-2007 20:21:56] <klinstifen> is snmp enabled on the device?
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:04] <lorth> yes of course
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:13] <lorth> it works for the standard template
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:21] <klinstifen> can you snmpwalk the device?
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:22] <lorth> i want to add 2 graphs
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:29] <lorth> to performance tab
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:35] <lorth> yes
[04-Dec-2007 20:24:25] <klinstifen> can you do a snmpget on the oid you are interested in?
[04-Dec-2007 20:24:50] <lorth> never tried an snmpget
[04-Dec-2007 20:24:55] <lorth> i do have a mibbrowser tho
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:06] <lorth> and pointed that at the server
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:16] <lorth> i know my question is a bit broad
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:20] <lorth> sorry about that
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:23] <nws> lorth: are you running windows?
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:26] <lorth> yes
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:35] <lorth> zenoss 2.11
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:44] <lorth> on ubuntu 7.04
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:51] <klinstifen> from the console on your zenoss server
[04-Dec-2007 20:26:06] <lorth> im there
[04-Dec-2007 20:26:37] <klinstifen> do snmpget -v<version -c<communityname>  <server> <oid>
[04-Dec-2007 20:26:52] <lorth> ok
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:05] <lorth> so if it is able to get that it should work?
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:12] <lorth> maybe my oids are wrong?
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:58] <nws> lorth: how about you take one step at a time and follow klinstifen's instructions
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:58] <klinstifen> yes and seems logical to me
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:05] <nws> since the docs didn't help
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:36] <lorth> nws why dont you be nice karma gonna get ya buddy
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:47] <lorth> jk ;)
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:53] <nws> i am being nice
[04-Dec-2007 20:29:10] <klinstifen> did the snmpget work?
[04-Dec-2007 20:30:17] <lorth> trying now
[04-Dec-2007 20:38:48] <lorth> snmpget -v 2c -c publicomm 172.19.7.8 1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.700.12.1.6.1.1
[04-Dec-2007 20:38:54] <lorth> is that right syntax?
[04-Dec-2007 20:47:07] <lorth> hey thanks
[04-Dec-2007 20:47:15] <lorth> thats got me in right direction
[04-Dec-2007 20:58:03] <lorth> hey i got it added to the graph
[04-Dec-2007 20:58:07] <lorth> another question guys
[04-Dec-2007 20:58:11] <lorth> you all around?
[04-Dec-2007 21:03:04] <klinstifen> i am back
[04-Dec-2007 21:03:07] <klinstifen> nice to see it's working
[04-Dec-2007 21:50:27] <lorth> hello anyone in here?
[04-Dec-2007 21:55:50] <lorth> yooooo
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[05-Dec-2007 00:15:16] <mrhinkle> Hey I'm mark the Zenoss community dude, I am in need of a favor, and would be very grateful for anyone that is willing to help me out (in other words I have some good Zenoss swag to trade)
[05-Dec-2007 00:15:48] <mrhinkle> I am looking for a couple of people monitoring that are using Zenoss Core who are monitoring 100+ devices
[05-Dec-2007 00:16:11] <monrad> mrhinkle: what do you need?
[05-Dec-2007 00:17:34] <mrhinkle> I am looking for some people who are willing to be a reference for Zenoss Core to a couple of bankers
[05-Dec-2007 00:18:15] <mrhinkle> monrad, just why you like it and why its useful to you
[05-Dec-2007 00:19:30] <monrad> we are monitoring 1433 devices right now, i guess thats 100+ :)
[05-Dec-2007 00:19:47] <monrad> just a sec just got a call on my duty cellphone
[05-Dec-2007 00:22:16] <mrhinkle> no worries, monrad
[05-Dec-2007 00:26:16] <mrhinkle> Monrad, Just email mrhinkle@zenoss.com with your contact information (email/phone) description of how you are using it (what types of things are you monitoring, what kind of organization you are using Zenoss Core in) plus shirt sizes and mailing address so I can send you some swag
[05-Dec-2007 00:27:22] <mrhinkle> The same offer goes for anyone else that's lurking and wakes up later
[05-Dec-2007 00:27:47] <monrad> mrhinkle: no need for swag, i am all the way on the other side of the pond but send you something anyway :)
[05-Dec-2007 00:28:27] <mrhinkle> thanks monrad I really appreciate it
[05-Dec-2007 00:33:37] <monrad> np reminded me that i should write a nice mail to sales@zenoss.com anyway :)
[05-Dec-2007 00:37:06] <monrad> too late :)
[05-Dec-2007 01:44:34] <rchrch> Any suggestions for fixing: "2007-12-04T17:28:31 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x2d, class Products.ZenUtils.PObjectCache.PObjectCache) at /zport/RenderServer/render (4 conflicts, of which 0 were unresolved, since startup at Tue Dec 4 17:23:54 2007)"
[05-Dec-2007 01:44:44] <rchrch> Prevents all graphs from rendering.
[05-Dec-2007 01:45:11] <rchrch> I restarted, removed the cache file, even tried removing the RenderServer.pyc file
[05-Dec-2007 02:03:34] <nated> anyone have tips on seeing why zenoss is ignoring a bunch of MIBs from a cisco VPN?
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[07-Dec-2007 21:01:13] <agelwarg> does anyone know if zenoss will support MYISAM as storage engine for mysql ?
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[07-Dec-2007 21:49:41] <MoreDakka> If snmpmonitor ignore == true then zenmodeler shouldn't even be looking at those devices anymore, right?
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[10-Dec-2007 01:27:05] <davetoo> bah.
[10-Dec-2007 01:34:10] <davetoo> net-snmp is ... finicky
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[10-Dec-2007 15:04:17] <MoreDakka> If snmpmonitor ignore == true then zenmodeler shouldn't even be looking at those devices anymore, right?
[10-Dec-2007 17:02:15] <nelcab> hi to all
[10-Dec-2007 17:02:53] <nelcab> does any1 has tried Zenoss on a fresh Fedora 6 installation. 
[10-Dec-2007 17:03:10] <nelcab> I'm having problems... try to search on the forums...
[10-Dec-2007 17:09:59] <nelcab> i'm starting the first-boot initialization....but it stays forever on the part that is "Loading Zenoss Objects into the Zeo Database" ... MySQL root passwd is in blank so it should not have problems with that at least
[10-Dec-2007 17:10:16] <nelcab> I don't know if any of you have the same problem or something alike
[10-Dec-2007 17:16:30] <aaahhh> hi
[10-Dec-2007 17:16:58] <nelcab> hi
[10-Dec-2007 17:19:57] <aaahhh> zope fails to start when i upgraded to centos 5.1
[10-Dec-2007 17:20:21] <aaahhh> raise ValueError("corrupted record, oid")
[10-Dec-2007 17:21:57] <aaahhh> http://pastebin.com/d2e9ecbb6
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[10-Dec-2007 17:31:37] <aaahhh> nvm figured it out
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[10-Dec-2007 18:56:45] <MoreDakka> If snmpmonitor ignore == true then zenmodeler shouldn't even be looking at those devices anymore, right?
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[10-Dec-2007 19:38:41] <Gamekiller> is there any good tut pages on snmpd setup files
[10-Dec-2007 19:51:08] <Gamekiller> ok
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[10-Dec-2007 20:18:54] <DesertWanderer> Greetings all.
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[10-Dec-2007 20:34:46] <eurowerke> hello Desert
[10-Dec-2007 20:37:49] <Gamekiller> ok not sure why but i can not get snmp on my linux servers to talk to zenoss got windows to do it fine
[10-Dec-2007 20:51:07] <klinstifen> Game, did you configure snmpd?
[10-Dec-2007 20:53:58] <klinstifen> snmpd is probably not configured to allow remote hosts to read snmp info
[10-Dec-2007 20:56:19] <exkev> is there a way to map ifIndex from an snmp linkDown trap to the actual interface, instead of classifying the component as the index number?
[10-Dec-2007 20:56:28] <exkev> non-cisco, doesn't provide ifDescr
[10-Dec-2007 21:01:43] <klinstifen> dunno, myself...but that looks interesting
[10-Dec-2007 21:01:50] <klinstifen> post it to the forums if you figure it out, will ya?
[10-Dec-2007 21:12:00] <exkev> k
[10-Dec-2007 21:12:25] <exkev> the zeo db has the info, just need to probably write a patch to use4 it
[10-Dec-2007 21:20:54] <exkev> evt.component = getattr(evt, 'ifIndex', 0)
[10-Dec-2007 21:21:04] <exkev> evt.component = getattr(evt ,'ifDescr', evt.component)
[10-Dec-2007 21:21:12] <exkev> ^seems as if that should already handle the lookup
[10-Dec-2007 21:21:45] <exkev> erm, no it's looking in the event itself for ifDescr
[10-Dec-2007 21:34:19] <Gamekiller> ok if i getting some traps that are unkown what is the best way to find the trap true maining
[10-Dec-2007 21:37:40] <exkev> read the mib
[10-Dec-2007 21:37:44] <exkev> google the oid
[10-Dec-2007 22:14:41] <Balo1> hey all
[10-Dec-2007 22:14:56] <Balo1> can somebody help with running a nagios command over ssh?
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[10-Dec-2007 22:22:29] <Balo1> ?
[10-Dec-2007 22:23:27] <PerlStalker> How does one go about fixing a KeyError?
[10-Dec-2007 22:32:07] <Gamekiller> exkev yah i found the cisco traps OIDs thanks
[10-Dec-2007 22:32:22] <Gamekiller> now to get my linux machines added to zenoss
[10-Dec-2007 22:37:15] <exkev> I slerped v1.tar.gz from ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v1 (or something like that) and imported most of em
[10-Dec-2007 22:37:46] <exkev> that's a total waste to add them all, but I have a lot of varying gear (various cisco, nortel, asa/pix, whatnot)
[10-Dec-2007 22:38:29] <exkev> also I may have a solution for mapping ifIndex -> component when ifDescr is not in the trap
[10-Dec-2007 22:38:50] <exkev> 16 line transform script, will test
[10-Dec-2007 22:41:24] <exkev> Error transforming EventClassInst snmp_linkDown (name 'find' is not defined)
[10-Dec-2007 22:41:25] <exkev> AGH
[10-Dec-2007 23:10:38] <Balo1> anybody around?
[10-Dec-2007 23:18:16] <exkev> I figured it out
[10-Dec-2007 23:19:17] <exkev> 11 lines of transform now
[10-Dec-2007 23:19:20] <exkev> will post to forum
[10-Dec-2007 23:19:33] <exkev> where'd be the best place to drop that?
[10-Dec-2007 23:59:02] <exkev> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14184
[11-Dec-2007 00:00:10] <Gamekiller> ok got one for those out there is any other way of adding some other icons to the Network Map part of zenoss so like linux and cisco and printers have icon to match there device locatoin
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[11-Dec-2007 00:21:46] <Gamekiller> hmm
[11-Dec-2007 00:22:08] <Gamekiller> my internet is spose to be down but i am still in the irc room must be very flacky
[11-Dec-2007 01:03:28] <balo2> hey all, is there anyway to get Zenoss to do SNMP & SSH monitoring on the same host?
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[11-Dec-2007 17:00:20] <eurowerke> annoying...
[11-Dec-2007 17:00:50] <MoreDakka> sorry
[11-Dec-2007 17:01:26] <eurowerke> I have a few websites set up to check that internet access is working... so I set up yahoo.com and google.com as devices with a timeout of 1 minute, and alert status of critical. I get messages every here and there that say "socket timeout after 10 seconds"... i didn't set it for 10 seconds!
[11-Dec-2007 17:04:12] <eurowerke> and these dang messages for everything that say "threshold of 75% exceeded.." I don't even have those thresholds enabled on those devices
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[11-Dec-2007 19:36:58] <DesertWanderer> I'm trying to figure out how to disable the /Status/Wmi/Conn Event. It's causing a rather annoying ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT. I do not have WMI enabled for SNMP, nor do I wish to write anything to the device I am monitoring.
[11-Dec-2007 19:37:10] <DesertWanderer> Any suggestions?
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[12-Dec-2007 03:13:26] <chowmeined> Because you need to provide a valid password for WMI
[12-Dec-2007 03:13:30] <chowmeined> username/password
[12-Dec-2007 03:13:49] <chowmeined> WMI isnt really related to SNMP
[12-Dec-2007 03:13:55] <chowmeined> they sort of do similar things
[12-Dec-2007 03:14:40] <chowmeined> if you want it disabled make sure you disable both WMI monitoring and Windows Event Log (not syslog)
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[12-Dec-2007 08:28:59] <rosscav> greetings helpful community... I'm new to zenoss and have just setup the server, but I want to restrict global access, so the webpage can only be seen from one IP address. This is probably something really easy, but any assistance would be great for how to do this.
[12-Dec-2007 13:33:18] <RedShift> sup all
[12-Dec-2007 13:33:33] <RedShift> this is going to sound very stupid, but how do I let zenoss mail me when something goes down?
[12-Dec-2007 13:35:32] <RedShift> I see events and stuff but nothing about alerting
[12-Dec-2007 14:42:57] <Bulwinkle> anyone know where the 75% line of the graphs are drawn for network utilization?
[12-Dec-2007 14:59:42] <klinstifen> like how you get the line to draw or not draw?
[12-Dec-2007 15:00:01] <klinstifen> or how the value is calculated?
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:36] <MoreDakka_> RedShift, you still around?
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[12-Dec-2007 15:11:46] <RedShift> MoreDakka: hi
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:51] <RedShift> yes I found it
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:55] <RedShift> it was under preferences
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:56] <MoreDakka> Good good
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:59] <RedShift> for the user itself
[12-Dec-2007 15:12:09] <RedShift> I was searching like mad how to create an alert on a device
[12-Dec-2007 15:12:19] <MoreDakka> hehe ;-)
[12-Dec-2007 15:12:30] <MoreDakka> Nope, alerts are on a per user basis
[12-Dec-2007 15:15:51] <RedShift> go figure :D
[12-Dec-2007 15:22:22] <klinstifen> MoreDakka, you ever get your custom command to work?
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[12-Dec-2007 16:31:01] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: how it is calculated. I can see where it is drawn on the graph, I just want to change it to 90%
[12-Dec-2007 16:32:25] <klinstifen> go to /Devices/Templates/ethernetCsmacd
[12-Dec-2007 16:32:45] <klinstifen> click on the Utilization 75 perc threshold
[12-Dec-2007 16:32:59] <klinstifen> and change the max value from here.speed / 8 * .75
[12-Dec-2007 16:33:13] <klinstifen> to here.speed / 8 * .9
[12-Dec-2007 16:33:25] <klinstifen> i'd think that would do it
[12-Dec-2007 16:33:41] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: that sets the threshhold but does it change the graph too?
[12-Dec-2007 16:34:04] <klinstifen> what do you mean?
[12-Dec-2007 16:34:24] <klinstifen> do you want the existing 75% to be on the graph and then a 90% alert?
[12-Dec-2007 16:34:45] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: I want the line to match the threshhold
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:13] <klinstifen> the line is drawn because the threshold is a part of the graph definition
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:22] <klinstifen> so if you change the threshold then the line will change
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:25] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: then I don't need to worry about it :)
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:26] <Bulwinkle> thanks
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:28] <klinstifen> you should probably change the name too
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:34] <Bulwinkle> did that
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:35] <klinstifen> Utilization 90 perc
[12-Dec-2007 16:37:50] <klinstifen> cool
[12-Dec-2007 18:08:18] <telexicon> Where can I find info on adding information to device pages?
[12-Dec-2007 18:10:57] <klinstifen> what kind of info?
[12-Dec-2007 18:25:13] <telexicon> I have a zenpack that monitors some snmp values for RAID status.. I want to display the disk arrays under Hardware
[12-Dec-2007 18:25:17] <telexicon> and show their status
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[12-Dec-2007 19:33:15] <telexicon> What should I check when a graph won't show up? Most of my graphs work but some of them stay empty
[12-Dec-2007 19:33:31] <telexicon> As in the grid doesnt even show up, all I see is the arrows
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[12-Dec-2007 19:59:46] <Bulwinkle> telexicon: probably the wrong snmp oids
[12-Dec-2007 20:00:39] <telexicon> snmpwalk works though
[12-Dec-2007 20:01:05] <telexicon> maybe im not waiting long enough
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[12-Dec-2007 23:55:17] <johns55> why is it recommended that python 2.4.4 is installed instead of the newer 2.5.1?
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[13-Dec-2007 02:05:37] <johns55> anyone here?
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[13-Dec-2007 13:53:01] <Bulwinkle> anyone have an idea why some of my threshholds I changed (from 75% to 90%) still say threshhold of 75% exceeded and some of them report 90%?
[13-Dec-2007 13:53:16] <Bulwinkle> do I need to restart a service for it to figure things correctly
[13-Dec-2007 14:00:43] <Bulwinkle> how about why ZenOSS reports all of my T1 links as 1.0Mbps?
[13-Dec-2007 14:01:35] <monrad> Bulwinkle: they have made a fix for that, i think its in the next version
[13-Dec-2007 14:02:08] <Bulwinkle> monrad: thanks for the info.
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[13-Dec-2007 16:54:39] <Bulwinkle> anyone know about the graph DEF commands?
[13-Dec-2007 17:02:56] <Bulwinkle> it looks like if you leave the consolidation option blank in the graph point tab the graph options still appends a : to the end of the DEF line in the RRD graph commands
[13-Dec-2007 17:11:42] <Bulwinkle> anyone know how to clear the google map cache?
[13-Dec-2007 17:12:33] <MoreDakka> http://zenoss.domain.com:8080/zport/dmd/manage_propertiesForm
[13-Dec-2007 17:18:05] <iotaion9> i've got a question for the zenoss team; we are a web hosting company with ~130 servers and a handful of other devices like managed power, switches, PIX. we use bigbrother now but it's becoming overwhelming to separate the real issues from the day-to-day rollercoaster of server loads, etc with so many servers being polled. the one feature we do like about bigbrother is that it will accept huge amounts of text from the plugins we have written for it -- for
[13-Dec-2007 17:21:07] <iotaion9> i know that zenoss will work with nagios plugins, and nagios 3 api allows for multi-line text, just not sure if zenoss will handle the output from a nagios plugin if we were to write one that sent a big block of text back
[13-Dec-2007 17:34:18] <Bulwinkle> damn, now my zeoctl process isn't starting
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:15] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: i have odd probs like that too sometimes
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:22] <klinstifen> i think it may be my box and not zenoss tho
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:32] <klinstifen> all the daemons will fail
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:34] <Bulwinkle> I'm rebooting now....   (shouldn't have to but I am)
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:35] <klinstifen> and then i have to reboot
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:41] <klinstifen> starting/stoping doesn't bring them back
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:44] <klinstifen> and ssh dies too
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:47] <Bulwinkle> thats some BS IMHO
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:52] <klinstifen> so i think it is the box freezing or something
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:15] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: I think somehow my ZEO database got locked and
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:37] <Bulwinkle> all of the other processes started, just no zeoctl
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:47] <klinstifen> can you zeoctl start?
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:48] <Bulwinkle> I know it can't be my hardware
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:06] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: nope. I just get . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:43] <klinstifen> bummers
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:45] <klinstifen> that sucks
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:54] <klinstifen> is the process currently running
[13-Dec-2007 17:39:06] <Bulwinkle> nope...  just rebooted and it started first try...  (SHAKES FIST AT ZENOSS)
[13-Dec-2007 17:40:12] <klinstifen> lol
[13-Dec-2007 18:02:39] <johns55> hi all, im getting an error unable to create the initial Zenoss object database
[13-Dec-2007 18:02:43] <johns55> when trying to install
[13-Dec-2007 18:02:47] <johns55> anyone have a clue?
[13-Dec-2007 18:03:08] <johns55> the last line in zenbuild.log is ValueError: The permission <em>Change Settings</em> is invalid.
[13-Dec-2007 18:19:59] <klinstifen> johns55: maybe you set a password?  zenoss expects the password to be blank
[13-Dec-2007 18:21:16] <johns55> password for what? this is a fresh install
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:21] <klinstifen> when you set up the mysql db
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:27] <klinstifen> did you set a password ?
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:36] <johns55> yes for root
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:44] <klinstifen> that password
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:45] <johns55> but i specified that during the install.sh
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:18] <klinstifen> hmm well i know people have reported problems
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:25] <klinstifen> when the password is set and not blank
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:33] <johns55> should i make the root pw empty?
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:51] <klinstifen> that's what i did
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:55] <johns55> hrm
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:58] <johns55> ok lemme give that a shot
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:12] <johns55> do you recommend that i install the latest tar from the site? or the latest SVN checkout?
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:24] <klinstifen> i did mine from source
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:43] <klinstifen> so i don't have experience with the other two
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:58] <johns55> yes source is the tar'ed file
[13-Dec-2007 18:25:57] <klinstifen> sry i read rpm when i read what you wrote
[13-Dec-2007 18:26:14] <klinstifen> so uhh....tar
[13-Dec-2007 18:28:44] <johns55> heh no worries
[13-Dec-2007 18:29:07] <johns55> did you install the latest 2.1.1?
[13-Dec-2007 18:29:11] <johns55> which distro?
[13-Dec-2007 18:35:24] <Bulwinkle> I'm on opensuse and it worked great
[13-Dec-2007 18:36:12] <johns55> hrm ok, im installing it with no zenoss pass, no root mysql pass, and no mysql zenoss user pass
[13-Dec-2007 18:36:16] <johns55> hopefully this will work
[13-Dec-2007 18:36:18] <johns55> i can set the pw later
[13-Dec-2007 18:38:35] <klinstifen> yeah 2.1.1 for debian
[13-Dec-2007 18:38:39] <klinstifen> err ubuntu
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:11] <klinstifen> johns55: i only meant change pass for mysql acct
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:15] <klinstifen> but heh this all works
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:22] <klinstifen> zenoss runs as zenoss user anyways
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:27] <klinstifen> so root pass wont' make a diff
[13-Dec-2007 18:46:12] <johns55> yes it works w/o passwords
[13-Dec-2007 18:46:20] <johns55> i wonder what could be the problem
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:21] <klinstifen> not sure
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:29] <klinstifen> but there's more than one post about it in the forum
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:38] <klinstifen> solution is always to make mysql zenoss pass blank
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:55] <johns55> o geez
[13-Dec-2007 18:48:07] <johns55> ok im gonna re-install and only have mysql root blank
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[13-Dec-2007 19:04:54] <klinstifen> k
[13-Dec-2007 19:13:23] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I have a really stupid user question - I have looked through the documentation, and don't see a good answer to this. I downloaded and installed one of the community zenpacks, and want to begin using it (it's the Dell PE 2950 zenpack) but what remains unclear to me is how one tells a device to begin grabbing that data. I have tried remodeling my devices, but that doesn't appear to...
[13-Dec-2007 19:13:25] <ke4qqq> ...change anything.
[13-Dec-2007 19:17:47] <davetoo> At least two things to consider:
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:11] <davetoo> First, you have to associate the new template(s) with that device somehow.
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:23] <davetoo> Did it create a new device group?
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:47] <ke4qqq> I don't think so - don't see a new device group when I look in devices
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:55] <davetoo> Second, you have to get zenoss to run the appropriate data collector when you remodel it.
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:55] <ke4qqq> and no I didn't assocaites the new template
[13-Dec-2007 19:19:12] <ke4qqq> right, I tried looking at collector plugins, but don't see anything different in the list
[13-Dec-2007 19:19:15] <davetoo> I don't know how zenpacks do new datacollector plugins, to be honest.
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:09] <davetoo> On the server there will be a new directory in $ZENHOME/Products,
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:12] <davetoo> with the name of the zenpack.
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:15] <klinstifen> i think you just need to associate the template with your device
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:22] <ke4qqq> k
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:26] <klinstifen> that's what i did with the apache zenpack
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:33] <klinstifen> just bind that new template to your device or class
[13-Dec-2007 19:21:38] <ke4qqq> ahh ok thanks! I think that will work.....do I need to remodel or will it just collect stuff on next snmp run?
[13-Dec-2007 19:21:58] <davetoo> you need to remodel
[13-Dec-2007 19:22:21] <davetoo> do DellCPUMap, DellDeviceMap, and DellPCIMap show up in your datacollector plugin list?
[13-Dec-2007 19:22:24] <jdiaz> hello, whenever anyone can, i'm in need of a bit of help :D
[13-Dec-2007 19:23:01] <ke4qqq> davetoo: yes
[13-Dec-2007 19:23:34] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: remodel won't hurt
[13-Dec-2007 19:24:53] <klinstifen> jdiaz: ?
[13-Dec-2007 19:25:32] <jdiaz> we are studying at the company moving fron nagios to zenoss, so far I have to say it goes with all we are looking for in a software =)
[13-Dec-2007 19:26:08] <jdiaz> however, due some weird policies here, snmp is currently not an option, thus we are using zenplugins through SSH
[13-Dec-2007 19:26:30] <jdiaz> modeling a new device, goes pretty well, finds mount points, route tables etc etc etc
[13-Dec-2007 19:27:12] <jdiaz> performance however gives and error, and actually no graphic is being shown anywhere, and zencommand has 0 scheduled things
[13-Dec-2007 19:27:39] <jdiaz> i have found in zenhub an error that ends with: KeyError: 'mount'
[13-Dec-2007 19:28:07] <jdiaz> reading forums and checking the templates for the device class, seems the zenplugin dies on the {here/mount}
[13-Dec-2007 19:28:18] <jdiaz> i have no idea why though, considering modeling the device works fine
[13-Dec-2007 19:28:43] <jdiaz> this is zenoss 2.1.1 on slackware
[13-Dec-2007 19:29:42] <jdiaz> the error on zenhub log shows up when i restart zencommand only
[13-Dec-2007 19:29:58] <jdiaz> this leaves us with o information on the OS tab for all devices, and no graphs at all =(
[13-Dec-2007 19:35:46] <klinstifen> i don't have any experience with the zenpluggins through ssh
[13-Dec-2007 19:35:58] <klinstifen> but the default graphs are based on snmp
[13-Dec-2007 19:36:05] <klinstifen> have you bound your pluggin to your device?
[13-Dec-2007 19:36:54] <jdiaz> i have, i know the defaults are on snmp, yet the default install comes with a series of templates in /devices/linux/cmd made for ssh using zenplugins
[13-Dec-2007 19:37:59] <klinstifen> sry man, i don't know
[13-Dec-2007 19:38:05] <jdiaz> it's ok
[13-Dec-2007 19:38:07] <klinstifen> i haven't added our nix boxes yet
[13-Dec-2007 19:38:10] <klinstifen> for monitoring
[13-Dec-2007 19:39:04] <johns55> it looks like majority of the zen packs are made for redhat EL, has anyone able to install it on fedora?
[13-Dec-2007 19:40:43] <kgoedtel> the zenoss team zenpacks have some issues
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:07] <kgoedtel> i totally modified the apache monitor because it was 50% useless
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:36] <kgoedtel> like requests and bytes were graphic the average for the current generation/uptime
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:41] <kgoedtel> graphing*
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:56] <kgoedtel> so basically. a flat line
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:02] <kgoedtel> useful!
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:08] <klinstifen> kgoedtel!  you must share
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:15] <klinstifen> i think the same thing of the Apache monitor
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:18] <kgoedtel> im still working on it
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:24] <klinstifen> I installed it and was like, "oh..."
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:35] <klinstifen> are site gets some activity, but the graphs make it look like none
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:40] <kgoedtel> the last one that is a bit tricky is to get the bytes per request to work
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:48] <kgoedtel> since that has to be done by RRD using a CDEF
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:13] <kgoedtel> yah my graphs are already much much nicer
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:17] <johns55> do you guys recommend that I monitor my nix box using the zenplugin.py or just an SNMP agent?
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:24] <johns55> are there any security issues with SNMP?
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:26] <klinstifen> nice, yeah please share
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:47] <kgoedtel> also i modified sys-netapp because the way it was written was completely wrong
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:23] <klinstifen> kgoedtel: i uploaded a zenpack that monitored Exchange via SNMP but it was never posted on their zenpack page
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:30] <kgoedtel> :[
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:34] <kgoedtel> that sucks
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:37] <klinstifen> i'm guessing it's because they offer the same thing for Enterprise users and din't want to give it away
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:49] <kgoedtel> ahhh
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:04] <kgoedtel> well that is still annoying
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:07] <klinstifen> yeah
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:15] <klinstifen> how am i suppossed to get my free t-shirt?
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:18] <kgoedtel> haha
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:18] <klinstifen> jk
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:53] <kgoedtel> one thing i hate about zenpacks is upgrading them is a nightmare
[13-Dec-2007 19:46:22] <kgoedtel> if you add new datapoints i cant find a way to make them appear without restarting zenoss, then go into the template datasource and click save
[13-Dec-2007 19:46:51] <kgoedtel> gets old fast when testing changes often
[13-Dec-2007 19:46:53] <klinstifen> what kind of datasource is it?
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:26] <klinstifen> johns55: i used the apache monitor on ubuntu so it at least works on some diff nix flavors even if it is advertised as EL4/5
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:30] <kgoedtel> well this was when i was adding stuff to apache monitor and i created 2 counter dps, and they didnt appear until i did that
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:52] <kgoedtel> im pretty sure apache monitor should work on any distros
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:58] <klinstifen> jons55: snmp has security risk in that anyone who knows the community name can get info and if that community as write abilities they could change info
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:04] <kgoedtel> all it does is parse the server-status?auto page
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:08] <kgoedtel> and it is very very basic
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:32] <klinstifen> but that's just surface risks...i don't know about holes or flaws in snmp
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:40] <johns55> klinstifen: if I set my community name to soemthing really cryptic would that be okay? It seems like it is easier to run an SNMP agent than to go into each machine and install the zenplugin
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:05] <klinstifen> yeah kgoedtel i agree i looked long and hard at that zenpack and there is nothing to it...just py files and xml
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:12] <kgoedtel> makking the snmp community ro and changing it to something other than public is more than adequate in my opinion
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:35] <klinstifen> true
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:44] <kgoedtel> i wish i could make zenpacks in perl... i hate python
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:58] <kgoedtel> type casting stuff, im lazy
[13-Dec-2007 19:50:34] <kgoedtel> when changing apache monitor i forgot to typecast a value i multiplied by 1024... needless to say the string got very large O-o
[13-Dec-2007 19:50:57] <kgoedtel> now int() is my friend
[13-Dec-2007 19:52:40] <klinstifen> my zenpacks are in bash ; )
[13-Dec-2007 19:53:29] <kgoedtel> ohh that would be so painful
[13-Dec-2007 19:53:51] <kgoedtel> i wrote a clone script for xen in bash... i am totally regretting it
[13-Dec-2007 19:54:29] <klinstifen> painful? nah...wmic is my friend for getting Win info...and then i just echo back the results
[13-Dec-2007 19:54:33] <klinstifen> easy
[13-Dec-2007 19:55:09] <kgoedtel> we only have 1 official windows server here, so i havent even bothered with it
[13-Dec-2007 19:55:32] <kgoedtel> everything else is solaris 10 and centos 5
[13-Dec-2007 19:55:46] <klinstifen> ah
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:08] <kgoedtel> lots and lots of web servers
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:20] <klinstifen> is that your business?  web hosting?
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:37] <kgoedtel> well indirectly maybe
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:54] <klinstifen> well then that's lots of stuff to graph for sure
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:06] <kgoedtel> we charge fees for use of a web app, we do our own hosting
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:14] <klinstifen> gotcha
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:42] <klinstifen> you know a way to get nic perf graphs to appear on the perf tab?
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:48] <klinstifen> be nice to see all graphs in one place
[13-Dec-2007 19:58:13] <kgoedtel> dunno
[13-Dec-2007 19:58:37] <kgoedtel> we used to use mrtg, but now i just use graph reports in zenoss
[13-Dec-2007 19:58:50] <klinstifen> yeah
[13-Dec-2007 19:59:03] <klinstifen> well time to go
[13-Dec-2007 19:59:14] <klinstifen> later good luck with the apache mods
[13-Dec-2007 20:01:23] <Bulwinkle> if you like MRTG you're going to LOVE cacti
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[13-Dec-2007 21:00:10] <johns55> hey guys, if i want to set up a device on zenoss to monitor itself, would i just add a device localhost?
[13-Dec-2007 21:06:41] <johns55> im actually getting a sendto error when doin this
[13-Dec-2007 22:30:18] <jsm> weird.. i'm trying to add a device, and zenoss is telling me that "Ip x.x.x.x exists on"
[13-Dec-2007 22:30:22] <jsm> and that's all
[13-Dec-2007 22:30:26] <jsm> doesn't say where it exists
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[13-Dec-2007 23:39:42] <ciggy_jr> Hi! I've just started to use zenoss and was wondering if it's possible to supress alerts in case of a network link flapping for example?
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[14-Dec-2007 01:32:34] <exkev> I'm having random issues rendering graphs on remote collectors (ala the howto)
[14-Dec-2007 01:32:42] <exkev> so I'm exploring zenrender.  there's like 0 doc
[14-Dec-2007 01:33:01] <exkev> it seems to be a way to have the main server get values from the remotes
[14-Dec-2007 01:34:16] <exkev> if I did it like the howto, it didn't work at first (no image) then after some restarting and beating on it again the next day, magically started
[14-Dec-2007 01:34:52] <exkev> then I was collecting some counters as derive where rolls were causing huge negatives, so I nuked the related RRDs after redefining them as counter, and now those graphs won't draw
[14-Dec-2007 01:35:01] <exkev> (it is collecting, and the RRDs exist on the remotes)
[14-Dec-2007 01:35:16] <exkev> logs drop stuff about file not existing, they lie
[14-Dec-2007 01:36:17] <exkev> then I have some multigraph reports that I want to pull data from multiple remotes and agg them on one graph. that doesn't work if the render url points to those remote hosts, and corp security will have a cow if open the firewall into some of them
[14-Dec-2007 01:36:54] <exkev> so I chase zenrender.  am I on the right track?
[14-Dec-2007 02:42:46] <madfactor> hey... ne1 here that can help?
[14-Dec-2007 03:59:12] <madfactor> ne1 here now?
[14-Dec-2007 04:06:44] <madfactor> this channel seems absolutely useless.
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[14-Dec-2007 05:24:31] <Snake-eyes> madfactor, whats your problem ?
[14-Dec-2007 14:40:55] <wam> Hi, anyone here? I'm installing zenoss with the instruction "install-on-ubuntu-7.04" on a linux-vserver. After I managed the nagios-plugins installation (which hang when pinging 127.0.0.1), the installer now hangs when importing initial zenoss objects into Zeo. It produces no load and zeo is bound to 0.0.0.0:8100. Can I interrupt this somehow and import the data later manually?
[14-Dec-2007 14:41:30] <wam> I could also upload my Data.fs which was created when I installed zenoss locally (which went great)
[14-Dec-2007 14:41:46] <wam> I'd just have to interrupt the process so that the installer continues ;)
[14-Dec-2007 14:44:07] <klinstifen> uhh I dunno...I ran the same install and it went without issue ; \
[14-Dec-2007 14:44:54] <wam> klinstifen: I just saw I don't have a /etc/hosts file which means I don't have the "localhost"... Maybe that'll fix it. I'll try.
[14-Dec-2007 14:45:11] <klinstifen> k
[14-Dec-2007 15:01:05] <wam> hah - works ;)
[14-Dec-2007 15:01:34] <ke4qqq> klinstifen: did you see my /msg?
[14-Dec-2007 15:01:47] <klinstifen> yeah i replied
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[14-Dec-2007 15:02:16] <ke4qqq> hmmm I must have dropped it, can you resend?
[14-Dec-2007 15:02:41] <klinstifen> yeppers
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:14] <klinstifen> did you get the one i just sent?
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:24] <ke4qqq> no....weird....
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:38] <ke4qqq> wonder if I reconnected to the server overnight and am not authed
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:45] <klinstifen> maybe my irc app
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:56] <ke4qqq> anything that can't be said in chan?
[14-Dec-2007 15:04:01] <klinstifen> totally : )
[14-Dec-2007 15:04:33] <klinstifen> i said, "Sure! Right now I am grabbing queue and message stats. Still working on it to make sure values aren't out of proportion...but Sure!"
[14-Dec-2007 15:06:51] <klinstifen> It works and looks pretty...anything in particular you are looking to gather info on?
[14-Dec-2007 15:09:00] <ke4qqq> queue, mainly, but at the same time, I need to really sit down and look and see what db perf options are out there
[14-Dec-2007 15:09:57] <ke4qqq> I'll gladly admit that I have tons of research that I need to do on what best to monitor.
[14-Dec-2007 15:11:46] <klinstifen> cool, well I am game to share...will help debug and tweak
[14-Dec-2007 15:11:57] <ke4qqq> great!
[14-Dec-2007 15:12:46] <klinstifen> how you want me to send it?
[14-Dec-2007 15:16:03] <ke4qqq> email or provide a link or??
[14-Dec-2007 15:20:09] <klinstifen> pm me your email addy
[14-Dec-2007 15:25:23] <klinstifen> nm i got it
[14-Dec-2007 15:25:40] <klinstifen> i'll send it later today
[14-Dec-2007 15:25:49] <klinstifen> early afternoon'ish
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:02] <ke4qqq> sorry, someone came in to my cube....
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:09] <ke4qqq> ok, davidn@keymarkinc.com just to confirm.
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:15] <wam> Hmm - I don't get the arrow top-right to open the menu. Other JS works... Any Ideas?
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:20] <ke4qqq> Thanks, I'll try and get it deployed today and start playing it.
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:24] <wam> s/top-right/top-left
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:31] <klinstifen> i got a diff one from zenoss formus?
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:38] <klinstifen> wam: what broswer/os?
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:52] <ke4qqq> david@gnsa.us
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:54] <wam> klinstifen: firefox/ubuntu. With a local install it works - just not on the server.
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:58] <ke4qqq> or david.nalley@fedoraproject.org
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:06] <ke4qqq> either will work
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:39] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: any of the three?
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:49] <ke4qqq> yep any of the three will work
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:53] <klinstifen> wam: what's the server os/browser?
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:58] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: k
[14-Dec-2007 15:28:05] <wam> klinstifen: server is ubuntu gutsy
[14-Dec-2007 15:28:36] <wam> klinstifen: the whole app works - only not this arrow.
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:03] <klinstifen> which arrow?  do you mean top-left?
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:10] <wam> klinstifen: correct.
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:30] <wam> klinstifen: there are no 404s or so.
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:40] <klinstifen> what happens when you click it?  or do you not see it?
[14-Dec-2007 15:30:08] <wam> I can't see it and when clicking where it should be, nothing happens.
[14-Dec-2007 15:30:32] <wam> klinstifen: the arrow above the menu works - so js seems to work.
[14-Dec-2007 15:30:33] <klinstifen> you try a diff browser?
[14-Dec-2007 15:31:30] <wam> klinstifen: galeon: same
[14-Dec-2007 15:31:52] <klinstifen> hmm
[14-Dec-2007 15:33:10] <klinstifen> wam: haven't heard or see this before
[14-Dec-2007 15:33:18] <klinstifen> *seen
[14-Dec-2007 15:35:58] <wam> klinstifen: does zenoss only work on localhost?
[14-Dec-2007 15:37:34] <klinstifen> what do you mean?
[14-Dec-2007 15:37:43] <klinstifen> the web interface?
[14-Dec-2007 15:38:47] <wam> klinstifen: no, the application
[14-Dec-2007 15:39:41] <klinstifen> i still don't understand your question
[14-Dec-2007 15:40:16] <wam> klinstifen: can't be - so forget it ;)
[14-Dec-2007 15:40:38] <wam> klinstifen: was wondering if I have to access the webinterface via "localhost" and not "myhost.com".
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:01] <klinstifen> you should be able to access it from anywhere
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:09] <klinstifen> in your network
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:22] <klinstifen> http://myhost.yourdomain:8080
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:29] <wam> klinstifen: yeah
[14-Dec-2007 15:42:32] <klinstifen> right
[14-Dec-2007 15:53:09] <wam> klinstifen: this must be something from my failed install-attempts. As menu_id is defined for each view, it has to be passed to the macros. So they seem not to be able to load the menu or something like that. I'll reinstall from scratch.
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:06] <exkev> klinstifen, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:8080            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN    
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:19] <exkev> it's bound to all, localhost:8080 should work
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:23] <exkev> unless you altered zope.conf
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:54] <exkev> <http-server>address 8080</http-server> is default
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:22] <klinstifen> exkev: yeah, i was explaining to wam that that address would get him to zenoss login screen form another pc
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:29] <exkev> erm, s/klinstifen/wam/
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:41] <exkev> 08:35 < wam> klinstifen: does zenoss only work on localhost?
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:43] <exkev> misread
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:00] <exkev> hey, since this channel has live bodies for once
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:05] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:05] <exkev> can anyone explain zenrender?
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:34] <exkev> I've got remote probes that don't reliably render graphs, lying about rrd not existing etc
[14-Dec-2007 16:06:15] <exkev> also need to make multigraphs from rrds that lie on multiple remotes
[14-Dec-2007 16:06:21] <exkev> is this what it's for?
[14-Dec-2007 16:07:20] <klinstifen> not sure about the first part, but isn't the multi-graph report what you need for your second question?
[14-Dec-2007 16:07:36] <exkev> it doesn't work when datasources are on disparate remotes
[14-Dec-2007 16:07:51] <exkev> I want to stack all bandwidth on various router ports, for example
[14-Dec-2007 16:08:09] <exkev> (I am using multi-graph)
[14-Dec-2007 16:08:41] <exkev> I might just have to go nfs mount a common perf directory
[14-Dec-2007 16:09:18] <klinstifen> that might work
[14-Dec-2007 16:10:00] <exkev> but we were recently pwned by an acquisition, and the overlords manage some firewalls now. I want to avoid dealing with the superfluous levels of stupid
[14-Dec-2007 16:10:42] <exkev> "nfs?  random http ports?  uh, I'll have to send that up to risk management for approval"
[14-Dec-2007 16:11:09] <exkev> the main thing I'm trying to avoid is any port open to the world, they'll drop a big no on that (e.g. remote renderserver)
[14-Dec-2007 16:13:15] <klinstifen> exkev: that sucks
[14-Dec-2007 16:14:15] <exkev> so any idea what zenrender actually is?
[14-Dec-2007 16:14:30] <exkev> the master has ports 8090/8091 open, remotes 8091 only
[14-Dec-2007 16:14:41] <exkev> supposed to take some sort of request for rrd values
[14-Dec-2007 16:15:13] <exkev> from RenderServer import RenderServer as OrigRenderServer
[14-Dec-2007 16:15:42] <exkev> ^imports renderserver, but throws 500 errs
[14-Dec-2007 16:16:35] <wam> Ok - I got an install error at the very last part: "ZentinelPortal loaded at zport \n unable to create the initial Zenoss object database".
[14-Dec-2007 16:16:55] <wam> But my Data.fs has about 2MB.
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:02] <klinstifen> wam: you probably specified a password for the mysql zenoss user
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:04] <klinstifen> don't do that
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:12] <wam> klinstifen: excuse me?
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:18] <wam> klinstifen: damn
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:32] <wam> klinstifen: ok - I'll try w/o - but I can't let this w/o password.
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:47] <exkev> uh
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:52] <exkev> that worked fine for me
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:54] <wam> klinstifen: should I use the default or a empty?
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:55] <exkev> many times
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:06] <exkev> as long as my root mysql creds were right
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:08] <klinstifen> wam: the forums are ripe with same msg...mysql zenoss user password should be blank during install or else you have to specify it (where i don't know)
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:16] <exkev> but object db != events mysql db
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:57] <wam> klinstifen: should I delete the db and the user from mysql before installing again?
[14-Dec-2007 16:19:46] <klinstifen> erm, i dunno. exkev?
[14-Dec-2007 16:19:58] <exkev> probably a good idea
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:07] <wam> done
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:09] <klinstifen> maybe just retry checking creds
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:21] <wam> trying with the default zenosspassword for mysql
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:22] <exkev> and rm -rf $ZENHOME
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:29] <wam> ok
[14-Dec-2007 16:21:04] <wam> can I later change the mysqlpassword for zenoss?
[14-Dec-2007 16:21:46] <klinstifen> i would think so you just need to update zenoss too with new pass
[14-Dec-2007 16:22:20] <exkev>  /zport/dmd/ZenEventManager has sql creds in http form
[14-Dec-2007 16:22:53] <wam> exkev: cool
[14-Dec-2007 16:23:23] <wam> hmm - maybe I should simply upload my locally working instance.
[14-Dec-2007 16:23:36] <exkev> ya know, I tried copying /usr/local/zenoss, no love
[14-Dec-2007 16:23:43] <exkev> it seems to install deps outside its tree
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:09] <wam> exkev: I install it as user into the user's home - so it just can't install anything anywhere else than in its home.
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:27] <exkev> ah
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:46] <wam> same error
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:48] <wam> damn
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:49] <exkev> when it didn't work out for me, I re-ran the installer and it asked to preserve the db
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:09] <wam> yeah - even if I preserve it, it won't work.
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:13] <exkev> meh
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:43] <wam> ARGH
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:48] <wam> I stupid bastard
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:53] <wam> I should read LOGS!
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:57] <wam> Why are people writing them?
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:59] <exkev> ho ho
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:03] <wam> Yeah - so I can ignore them.
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:08] <wam> Damn
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:25] <wam> zope writes to /tmp, which happens to be a ramdisk with 16M in my installation. Nice.
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:33] <wam> "No space left on device"
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:53] <exkev> 16M of /tmp?  you building this on a solid state box?
[14-Dec-2007 16:28:03] <wam> exkev: that's a default setting with linux-vserver.
[14-Dec-2007 16:28:09] <wam> exkev: I just forgot to remove it.
[14-Dec-2007 16:28:17] <exkev> hrm haven't used that
[14-Dec-2007 16:30:30] <klinstifen> least you fixed problem
[14-Dec-2007 16:31:41] <wam> I had 2 problems up to now which both weren't there on my local box: 1. There was no "localhost" entry in /etc/hosts and 2. Diskspace. The first one wasn't logged - I just found out by try/error. The second was actually logged, so the problem was between screen and chair.
[14-Dec-2007 16:33:24] <wam> But that's nothing compared to my nagios install yesterday.
[14-Dec-2007 16:35:36] <wam> DONE ;) Thanks guys ;)
[14-Dec-2007 16:37:28] <klinstifen> nice!
[14-Dec-2007 16:58:01] <klinstifen> exkev: have you imported any mibs for trap translation?
[14-Dec-2007 17:08:03] <exkev> yes, lots
[14-Dec-2007 17:08:15] <exkev> some errored, most imported fine
[14-Dec-2007 17:25:58] <klinstifen> exkev: when they translate do you still see the OID on the events page in the summary column?
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[14-Dec-2007 18:22:26] <kgoedtel> here is what my apache graphs look like now :]
[14-Dec-2007 18:22:27] <kgoedtel> http://the1goat.shackspace.com/apachefixed.jpg
[14-Dec-2007 18:23:08] <johns55> sweeet
[14-Dec-2007 18:23:20] <johns55> looks better than mrtg
[14-Dec-2007 18:23:45] <kgoedtel> i modified the apache monitor zenpack because it was graphing useless flat lines
[14-Dec-2007 18:27:54] <klinstifen> kgoedtel: that looks much better than the default!
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:13] <kgoedtel> oh thanks for your reply in forums i feel dump now! but at least it works
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:17] <kgoedtel> dumb*
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:34] <klinstifen> welcome, it's all good.  it works that's what matters!
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:37] <klinstifen> looks very nice
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:18] <kgoedtel> i wish i had an example of an objects.xml that uses something other than ApacheMonitorDataSource
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:29] <kgoedtel> err
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:36] <kgoedtel> DataPointGraphPoint
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:57] <kgoedtel> im wondering if something like this is proper
[14-Dec-2007 18:30:01] <kgoedtel> <object id='bytesreq_gprint_last' module='Products.ZenModel.GprintGraphPoint' class='GprintGraphPoint'>
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:19] <johns55> kgoedtel, is this ready to be installed? if so, can you share?
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:21] <klinstifen> dunno
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:30] <kgoedtel> im very close i think
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:30] <klinstifen> was just gonna ask the same thing
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:37] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:40] <kgoedtel> right now mine is modified in my template
[14-Dec-2007 18:32:24] <kgoedtel> i will have to try to upgrade my zenpack with this new objects.xml to test it fully
[14-Dec-2007 18:32:53] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 18:36:55] <johns55> so i just finished install zenoss 2.1.1 and was wondering if I'm doin this snmpd.conf correctly
[14-Dec-2007 18:37:20] <johns55> i copied the snmpd.conf file from the zenoss install folder to the /etc/snmp/ folder in the server i want to monitor
[14-Dec-2007 18:37:46] <johns55> after that, i change public to a unique snmp community name
[14-Dec-2007 18:37:57] <johns55> so would this machine be ready to be monitored?
[14-Dec-2007 18:39:09] <kgoedtel> before testing it in zenoss i would suggest trying to to an snmpwalk from the machine running zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 18:39:34] <kgoedtel> if that works, it *should* work in zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:08] <johns55> the snmpd.conf file i just editted in on another machine i'd like zenoss to monitor
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:15] <kgoedtel> otherwise i have forgotten to open port 161 in my firewall
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:16] <klinstifen> yeah the only thing i could see would be that the file may be configured to only allow localhost to snmpwalk
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:49] <klinstifen> then the zenoss box wouldn't be able to get any info cuz it wouldn't be localhost
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:54] <johns55> ohhh, so zenoss made that file only for localhost?
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:03] <klinstifen> i dunno, don't know what the file looks like
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:08] <kgoedtel> me neither
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:15] <klinstifen> but i think out of the box snmp is configured for localhost
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:17] <klinstifen> at least mine was
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:36] <johns55> i found it in the zenoss install tree
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:55] <johns55> HOME/ZENOSS/ZENOSSINST/CONF/SNMPD.CONF
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:07] <klinstifen> easy way to find out : ) just try snmpwalk from the zenoss box
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:07] <johns55> opps sorry for the caps
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:22] <johns55> ok let me give it a shot
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:31] <klinstifen> snmpwalk -cpublic -v1 yourothercomputer
[14-Dec-2007 18:44:14] <johns55> thx
[14-Dec-2007 18:45:16] <johns55> how can u tell if its working?
[14-Dec-2007 18:45:27] <johns55> im getting a buncha cryptic things on screen
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:09] <kgoedtel> do
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:19] <kgoedtel> snmpwalk -cpublic -v1 yourothercomputer system
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:37] <kgoedtel> should be less crpytic OIDs
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:41] <kgoedtel> :]
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:58] <klinstifen> umm, if you get anything then it worked
[14-Dec-2007 18:49:09] <klinstifen> you'd see a clear error message if it didnt
[14-Dec-2007 18:49:19] <klinstifen> but kgoedtel's recommendation is good
[14-Dec-2007 18:50:06] <johns55> yes stuffs showing up
[14-Dec-2007 18:51:03] <klinstifen> cool, then you should be able to monitor that from zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 18:55:59] <johns55> hrm the autodiscovery panel changed
[14-Dec-2007 18:56:09] <johns55> documentation states it is under main views/networks
[14-Dec-2007 18:56:21] <johns55> theres only network maps now
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[14-Dec-2007 19:28:00] <johns55> ack did network maps replace network?
[14-Dec-2007 19:29:24] <klinstifen> wha?
[14-Dec-2007 19:29:41] <johns55> on main views, i only see network map
[14-Dec-2007 19:29:43] <johns55> no network
[14-Dec-2007 19:32:56] <klinstifen> is there a Networks under Browse By?
[14-Dec-2007 19:35:54] <johns55> oh yeah
[14-Dec-2007 19:36:08] <johns55> geez, something is wrong with me today, must be because its friday
[14-Dec-2007 19:38:33] <klinstifen> haha, i hear ya
[14-Dec-2007 19:38:55] <klinstifen> just took me 3 mins to realize i put a ' instead of a " and they were both right next to each other like this ' "
[14-Dec-2007 19:39:54] <johns55> im trying to add a network but it will only default to a 24 mask bit
[14-Dec-2007 19:43:23] <klinstifen> what mask bit do you want?
[14-Dec-2007 19:44:37] <johns55> 28
[14-Dec-2007 19:45:06] <johns55> my subnetmask is 255.255.255.240
[14-Dec-2007 19:46:46] <klinstifen> go into the zproperties for Networks
[14-Dec-2007 19:46:51] <klinstifen> and add 28 to the list
[14-Dec-2007 19:47:24] <Brixius> Hello
[14-Dec-2007 19:47:50] <Brixius> I have a question on using zenwin if anyone can help
[14-Dec-2007 19:47:54] <klinstifen> add it to the zDefaultNetworkTree
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:04] <klinstifen> johns55: you see it?
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:44] <johns55> yeah
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:55] <johns55> 24
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:56] <johns55> 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:59] <johns55> im not sure what that means
[14-Dec-2007 19:53:51] <klinstifen> those are the default subnets..24= 255.255.255.0
[14-Dec-2007 19:53:58] <klinstifen> it's CIDR notation the 24 and 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:05] <klinstifen> so add your 28 in between 24 and 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:09] <klinstifen> click save
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:14] <klinstifen> and then try to add your subnet
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:24] <klinstifen> 192.168.0.0/28 or whatever your IP is
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:31] <klinstifen> Brixius: zenwin?
[14-Dec-2007 19:55:20] <Brixius> I get a zenwin error on devices I add that are windows.
[14-Dec-2007 19:55:26] <Brixius> er event
[14-Dec-2007 19:56:59] <Brixius> I was looking in the manual for configuration of zenwin, but all it really says is read the readme on it, and I can't seem to find a readme for zenwin
[14-Dec-2007 19:58:35] <Brixius> I'm running the vmware zenoss appliance btw
[14-Dec-2007 19:59:29] <johns55> klinstifen: it's not making the changes if i put 28 in between 24 and 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:59:55] <klinstifen> jons55:when you add your network what are you entering?
[14-Dec-2007 20:00:12] <klinstifen> brixius: err i dunno...what's the zenwin error?
[14-Dec-2007 20:01:17] <Brixius> zenwin /Status/Wmi/Conn ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
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[14-Dec-2007 20:03:11] <johns55> klinstifen, my network has a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240, im just entering the IP address of the 1st IP on my subnet
[14-Dec-2007 20:03:12] <klinstifen> brixius: did you specify domain credentials in the zProperties?
[14-Dec-2007 20:03:35] <klinstifen> brixius: specifically zwinpassword and zwinuser?
[14-Dec-2007 20:03:52] <klinstifen> johns55: enter that ip address with a /28
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:06] <klinstifen> like 172.16.1.1/28
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:15] <johns55> yes, ive tried however they dont give enough room for that
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:39] <klinstifen> in the ID?
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:42] <klinstifen> i just typed it and it fit
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:47] <johns55> o wait
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:49] <johns55> heh
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:50] <johns55> fits now
[14-Dec-2007 20:05:04] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 20:05:38] <Brixius> kminstifen: Yep, I've set them un zProperties, but I'm using domain creds, one question would be do I use domain\username domain\\username or domain/username
[14-Dec-2007 20:05:54] <johns55> sweet its trying to discover now
[14-Dec-2007 20:07:26] <johns55> ahh man it only discovered itself
[14-Dec-2007 20:07:37] <johns55> i have another box on that network running snmp too
[14-Dec-2007 20:09:57] <johns55> when autodiscovering boxes, is there a place to add the snmp community?
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:17] <klinstifen> domain\username
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:28] <klinstifen> unless using wmic then it's domain/username
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:53] <klinstifen> johns55:zProperties for Devices, I think
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:58] <johns55> nah theyre linux boxes
[14-Dec-2007 20:12:37] <Brixius> wmic?
[14-Dec-2007 20:13:56] <klinstifen> brixius: wmic is used to get data from windows using WMI
[14-Dec-2007 20:14:12] <klinstifen> johns55: the root /Device zProperties
[14-Dec-2007 20:15:48] <johns55> k
[14-Dec-2007 20:19:43] <johns55> strange, it will only discover if i set my community to public
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[14-Dec-2007 20:24:01] <MoreDakka> Are you setting it in Zenoss or on the device?
[14-Dec-2007 20:24:27] <klinstifen> johns55: that's not too strange...if the device you are trying to detect has a community set to public then it makes sense that zenoss only auto-discovers is the community is public
[14-Dec-2007 20:24:43] <MoreDakka> ^^QFT
[14-Dec-2007 20:24:50] <johns55> is it possible to set a default community for zenoss to discover?
[14-Dec-2007 20:26:32] <MoreDakka> under /Devices/zProperties -> zSnmpCommunities.
[14-Dec-2007 20:46:48] <johns55> great i got it
[14-Dec-2007 20:46:48] <johns55> what is the difference between trapcommunity and snmp comunnity
[14-Dec-2007 20:46:48] <johns55> if i change my snmp community name, would i also need to do the same for trapcommunity in the snmpd.conf file?
[14-Dec-2007 21:35:52] <johns55> aw geez, anyone know how to work this snmpd.conf file?
[14-Dec-2007 21:36:37] <johns55> im using the snmpd.conf that came with the install but when performing a snmpd -H, it gives me an error
[14-Dec-2007 21:36:46] <johns55> "/etc/snmp/snmpd.conf: line 49: Error: cannot create trapsink: default"
[14-Dec-2007 21:51:45] <ke4qqq> hey guys - playing with modifying some of the zenpacks - I am watching a few Dell boxes and adding power supply monitoring along with threshholds to alert if one or more fails. I am getting errors like this: Error reading value for "PowerSupplyStatus" on kmex01 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.200.10.1.9 is bad) When I snmpwalk it, I get the expected integer. Anyone know why?
[14-Dec-2007 21:54:59] <ke4qqq> johns55 instead of default specify your zenoss box for trapsink
[14-Dec-2007 21:57:38] <johns55> ok lets try this out
[14-Dec-2007 21:57:52] <johns55> how about trapcommunity?
[14-Dec-2007 21:58:43] <ke4qqq> you should be able to leave it out and it should use whatever community string you are using elsewhere (assuming only one) or the most recent (if multiple)
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:16] <ke4qqq> I lied
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:30] <ke4qqq> you have to have it first, and should use whatever community you are using for zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:35] <johns55> ok i set the trapsink to my zenoss server, and now im getting an alert about snmp coldstart
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:53] <johns55> ke4qqq: have to have what first?
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:06] <ke4qqq> trapcommunity
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:26] <johns55> is that a yum install?
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:36] <ke4qqq> no
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:57] <ke4qqq> in the conf file you'd do something like trapcommunity thenameofmycommunitystring
[14-Dec-2007 22:01:06] <johns55> yes
[14-Dec-2007 22:01:08] <johns55> what is that for?
[14-Dec-2007 22:01:18] <johns55> how is that difference from snmp community?
[14-Dec-2007 22:02:13] <ke4qqq> well remember snmpd listens for requests and responds to requests, traps are sent proactively when something happens. So they (in my mind) should be set to the same thing - but it's telling the traplistener on the other side what comm.
[14-Dec-2007 22:02:54] <johns55> so i should set my trapcommunity name the same as my snmp community name?
[14-Dec-2007 22:03:02] <johns55> is there something i need to set in zenoss also?
[14-Dec-2007 22:10:03] <johns55> hrm i get it now
[14-Dec-2007 22:25:43] <exkev> anyone using 'send string' and 'expect regex' for ip service port monitoring?
[14-Dec-2007 22:25:54] <exkev> it doesn't seem to do anything except cause failure
[14-Dec-2007 22:26:05] <exkev> tcpdump shows nothing but syn/syn-ack/ack exchange
[14-Dec-2007 22:33:17] <exkev> DEBUG zen.ZenTcpClient: sending: status
[14-Dec-2007 22:33:22] <exkev> ^seems to think it's sending something
[14-Dec-2007 22:40:22] <wam> exkev: I saw today that the ssh-service looks for incoming "SSH".
[14-Dec-2007 22:42:17] <exkev> I have to type something first to get a response
[14-Dec-2007 22:42:26] <exkev> I do see it reading those that offer a banner first
[14-Dec-2007 22:42:47] <exkev> looks like upon further inspection, it's not sending a newline and "status\n" in the field sends literal \n
[14-Dec-2007 22:43:13] <wam> exkev: maybe that should be a textarea ;)
[14-Dec-2007 22:43:39] <exkev> it should assume newline
[14-Dec-2007 22:43:55] <exkev> do you know any service that responds before one? :)
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:09] <wam> ssh
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:15] <wam> smtp
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:17] <exkev> no, that's an offer banner
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:20] <wam> (somehow ;)
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:28] <exkev> I mean any service that requires input for a response
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:46] <wam> http requires input before a response.
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:51] <exkev> yep
[14-Dec-2007 22:44:58] <exkev> but it requires a newline (two even)
[14-Dec-2007 22:45:09] <wam> right
[14-Dec-2007 22:45:15] <exkev> it's not going to send back 200 OK after "HEAD / HTTP/1.0"
[14-Dec-2007 22:45:16] <exkev> :)
[14-Dec-2007 22:45:28] <wam> right
[14-Dec-2007 22:45:48] <wam> exkev: do you also have most of your systems under /Ping service?
[14-Dec-2007 22:46:10] <exkev> no, only about 100
[14-Dec-2007 22:46:19] <wam> exkev: either I don't understand the system right now or it's meant like that: If I don't have snmp on a system, I'll have to put it there.
[14-Dec-2007 22:46:43] <exkev> you can define what your collector plugins are for a class
[14-Dec-2007 22:46:48] <exkev>  /Ping is just another class
[14-Dec-2007 22:47:02] <wam> exkev: I know - I could define whatever. But there is only cmd and snmp for measurement.
[14-Dec-2007 22:47:14] <wam> exkev: And I didn't find out why /Ping pings ;)
[14-Dec-2007 22:47:15] <exkev> it pings everything
[14-Dec-2007 22:47:34] <wam> exkev: yeah - but there's no collector for the ping. So where's that defined?
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:18] <exkev> it's not
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:21] <exkev> everything is pinged
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:26] <exkev> afaik
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:29] <wam> in every class?
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:35] <exkev> seems that way
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:37] <wam> exkev: forget it. I still have to read the whole manual...
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:39] <wam> thanks
[14-Dec-2007 22:48:45] <exkev> I didn't read that, just observed
[14-Dec-2007 22:49:20] <exkev> might be documented, dunno
[14-Dec-2007 22:49:53] <wam> 2 years ago I used cacti for monitoring my systems. Then I realized that snmp is a lot too much overhead and switched to munin, which works just without snmp (but supports it where needed). Now, I want the features of either nagios (which I don't like) or zenoss (which uses snmp for monitoring). I'm doomed.
[14-Dec-2007 22:50:13] <exkev> you can do agents w/ zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 22:50:19] <exkev> even nagios plugins
[14-Dec-2007 22:50:54] <wam> exkev: I'll have to learn about that. I decided I want zenoss because I'm a zope/plone dev and just like the way zenoss works.
[14-Dec-2007 22:51:06] <wam> it's python ;)
[14-Dec-2007 22:51:29] <exkev> use cmd collection instead of snmp (classes are predefined for snmp, but take a look at /Devices/Server/Cmd/zSortableProperty?prop=zCollectorPlugins
[14-Dec-2007 22:51:59] <exkev> I'm a perl guy myself, but I'm learning zope and python quick :)
[14-Dec-2007 22:52:36] <wam> exkev: so the collectors make the nice performance-graphs?
[14-Dec-2007 22:52:41] <exkev> perf collectors do
[14-Dec-2007 22:52:48] <exkev> things that write to rrd are under templates
[14-Dec-2007 22:53:04] <wam> i begin to get it.
[14-Dec-2007 22:53:36] <exkev> you can pretty much cook your own collection in many ways
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:04] <exkev> add new datasource, type COMMAND
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:09] <exkev> I'm pretty sure that's documented
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:11] <wam> and I saw I can also put a ssh login to some zPrefs so I think I can use cmd collectors on remote boxes?
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:18] <exkev> I am trying to be agentless where possible
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:20] <exkev> sp javem
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:24] <exkev> so haven't used it
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:35] <exkev> wam, I believe that is what that's for
[14-Dec-2007 22:54:49] <wam> exkev: thanks. I'm again a little more motivated ;)
[14-Dec-2007 22:55:30] <exkev> I really dig the zenoss architecture, but like in your case it can be challenging to rebuild it for agent style operation
[14-Dec-2007 22:56:23] <wam> so a template can have multiple rdd files
[14-Dec-2007 22:56:33] <exkev> each datasource is an rrd file
[14-Dec-2007 22:57:08] <exkev> created as $name_$datapoint
[14-Dec-2007 22:57:41] <exkev> commonly both the same, eg $ZENHOME/perf/Devices/foo/laLoadInt5_laLoadInt5.rrd
[14-Dec-2007 22:58:07] <exkev> and there are xmlrpc ways to retrieve values from those, whatnot
[14-Dec-2007 22:58:12] <exkev> (I'll be getting into that next month)
[14-Dec-2007 22:59:22] <exkev> templates are bound to a device automatically in some magical way, like for filesystem and interface tables, then explicitly by "bind templates" in the context menu of class/device
[14-Dec-2007 22:59:44] <exkev> those explicits go under perf, the rest under their respective tab
[14-Dec-2007 23:02:33] <wam> hot. Sounds like zope2 acquisition.
[14-Dec-2007 23:15:16] <johns55> ahh ok, i got snmp discover to find some servers, however i can't see some options such as hard drive space etc
[14-Dec-2007 23:16:13] <exkev> ok I hacked Products/ZenModel/skins/zenmodel/ipServiceClassEdit.pt for a textarea, my service checks work now
[14-Dec-2007 23:16:23] <exkev> will post patch to -dev
[14-Dec-2007 23:23:46] <exkev> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14369
[14-Dec-2007 23:23:48] <exkev> go nuts
[14-Dec-2007 23:23:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - IP service check sendString doesn't allow newline (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Dec-2007 23:29:59] <wam> exkev: cool
[14-Dec-2007 23:30:05] <wam> exkev: I go to bed now ;) n8
[14-Dec-2007 23:30:23] <exkev> heh, I'm GMT-7, still gettin paid
[14-Dec-2007 23:30:25] <exkev> 'nite
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[15-Dec-2007 00:16:22] <johns55> what are you guys using for SNPP client?
[15-Dec-2007 00:16:27] <johns55> to send out pager notices?\
[15-Dec-2007 00:34:41] <johns55> man how come some components arent showing up on certain devices
[15-Dec-2007 00:39:04] <exkev> anyone know zope?
[15-Dec-2007 00:39:26] <exkev> I'm trying to do a regex in a tal:content="python:re.blahblah" but re not imported
[15-Dec-2007 00:53:19] <tessier__> Inside a zope page template may not be the best place for a regex
[15-Dec-2007 00:53:26] <tessier__> Not sure what best practice is on that
[15-Dec-2007 00:59:28] <exkev> trying not to make it hard
[15-Dec-2007 01:36:34] <johns55> geez i have httpd, ntpd, snmpd on a box and want to add service name
[15-Dec-2007 01:36:37] <johns55> it says it cant find
[15-Dec-2007 01:36:43] <johns55> it can only add sshd
[15-Dec-2007 01:48:40] <johns55> where r u guys downloading mibs?
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[15-Dec-2007 22:57:52] <fac3less> Just curious, I hadn't seen zope mentioned very frequently during the installation guide (if at all), but it seems to want it installed after the fact. Any details on the site where I can research that? I noticed something regarding the LDAP auth. but still can't see anything about zope.
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[16-Dec-2007 18:27:46] <ziggurat> ok, I'm missing something fundemental here...
[16-Dec-2007 18:28:03] <ziggurat> *warning! I'm a newbie*
[16-Dec-2007 18:28:37] <ziggurat> I've installed zenoss from a source tarball without incident. The web interface renders fine.
[16-Dec-2007 18:29:18] <ziggurat> but watching the machine's interface with tcpdump I don't find any indication that zenoss is scanning for anything on my subnet.
[16-Dec-2007 18:31:01] <fac3less> You've made it past me. :p
[16-Dec-2007 18:31:08] <fac3less> It asked me for zope & I uninstalled it. ;)
[16-Dec-2007 18:33:42] <ziggurat> i can see that it's connecting to the database happily... and the daemons are running.
[16-Dec-2007 18:33:51] <ziggurat> the logs indicate no errors.
[16-Dec-2007 18:36:50] <ziggurat> ..oh well. I guess I'll continue slogging through the admin guide. Only it assumes that device discovery is working ... I must be missing something simple.
[16-Dec-2007 19:13:34] <ziggurat> !Got it!  It IS in the admin guide.
[16-Dec-2007 19:37:17] <ziggurat> Man, this is greatness...
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[17-Dec-2007 08:46:25] <raddy> Hi
[17-Dec-2007 08:46:36] <raddy> I am new to Zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 08:46:53] <raddy> I have tomcat6 using port 8080
[17-Dec-2007 08:47:20] <raddy> how to reconfigure ZenOSS to use different port
[17-Dec-2007 08:49:22] <raddy> Anybody there?
[17-Dec-2007 09:02:12] <Piyush> Hi ...Can somebody help me by providing any good link to integrate zenoss with Nagios
[17-Dec-2007 09:03:50] <Piyush> ?
[17-Dec-2007 09:03:50] <Piyush> any one awake..?? :)
[17-Dec-2007 09:45:50] <raddy> anybody there??
[17-Dec-2007 10:08:21] <raddy> Hi Piyush
[17-Dec-2007 10:09:07] <raddy> Does ZenOSS send alert e-mail when problems occur?
[17-Dec-2007 10:10:04] <Piyush> yes ofcourse
[17-Dec-2007 10:10:25] <Piyush> like any other monitoring tool it has Notification feature
[17-Dec-2007 10:15:18] <raddy> Piyush : in where i can configure to which e-mail address the alerts to be sent?
[17-Dec-2007 10:35:09] <raddy> FelipeBare : hi
[17-Dec-2007 10:35:16] <raddy> FelipeBare : i am new to zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 10:35:27] <raddy> FelipeBare : can you help me?
[17-Dec-2007 10:41:57] <raddy> Anybody out there??
[17-Dec-2007 10:59:11] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[17-Dec-2007 11:06:42] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[17-Dec-2007 11:17:02] <ServicesPlus> so many person, but few say a word.
[17-Dec-2007 11:38:42] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[17-Dec-2007 11:59:06] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[17-Dec-2007 13:49:10] <diaa> Guys, I have installed zenoss and I want to login to the web interface, what is the default password ??
[17-Dec-2007 13:49:21] <ke4qqq> diaa: zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 13:51:04] <diaa> no luck, I have tried admin/admin and http://$WEB/dmd
[17-Dec-2007 14:09:32] <ke4qqq> the default un/pw is admin/zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 14:17:10] <diaa> It depends on if I have used build source or rpm . on rpm admin/zenoss on source build admin admin.
[17-Dec-2007 14:17:15] <diaa> thank ke4qqq  :)
[17-Dec-2007 14:24:46] <ke4qqq> np
[17-Dec-2007 14:39:11] <diaa> I am running RHEL3 which runs 2.2 python, I have found no zenoss plugin for 2.2
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[17-Dec-2007 15:13:43] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: sry i didn't send that zenpack...still working on it
[17-Dec-2007 15:13:48] <klinstifen> maybe by wednesday
[17-Dec-2007 15:32:00] <ke4qqq> thats ok - I have some additional comments on things I'd like to monitor
[17-Dec-2007 15:32:54] <klinstifen> k
[17-Dec-2007 15:36:55] <ke4qqq> klinstifen: in particular, I'd be interested in DB Disk Transfers/sec , MSExchangeIS\RPC Operations/sec , and Disk Bytes/sec
[17-Dec-2007 15:37:37] <klinstifen> k
[17-Dec-2007 15:37:52] <klinstifen> right now it's all queue/msg stats, but i can prolly add that stuff too
[17-Dec-2007 15:41:35] <ke4qqq> ok, can't wait to see it, but no rush, I have plenty of other things in Zenoss (and others to work on)
[17-Dec-2007 15:41:59] <ke4qqq> perhaps add Client Latency to that list as well.
[17-Dec-2007 15:43:24] <klinstifen> yeah adding the stuff will push out the delivery date
[17-Dec-2007 15:43:27] <klinstifen> but i will work on it
[17-Dec-2007 16:13:38] <phlycoder> I'm trying to configure custom event thresholds on the device level of /Device/Printer/Laser and not impact the thresholds in any of the other levels. I can't quite figure out how to do this and currently the community docs are strong but I can't locate what I think I need. Any help would be appreciated.
[17-Dec-2007 16:16:28] <ke4qqq> ok, so within Device/Printer/Laser (or on the printer itself) when you open up templates you should see Make Local Copy as a button - that will make a copy for whatever level of the heirarchy you are at, and you can make changes and they are limited to that level of the hierarchy.
[17-Dec-2007 16:17:12] <phlycoder> ok that makes sense thanks for the quick response..... this just wasn't clear in the docs
[17-Dec-2007 16:18:03] <ke4qqq> yeah - docs are struggling to keep up - and things are changing rapidly.
[17-Dec-2007 16:19:08] <phlycoder> ok to another issue that I've not found much help with... I'm getting "zenhub heartbeat failure" all the time and I'm not sure what that actually means
[17-Dec-2007 16:19:50] <ke4qqq> means zenhub is being detected as not running
[17-Dec-2007 16:20:31] <phlycoder> so just need to start the service?
[17-Dec-2007 16:20:40] <ke4qqq> prolly
[17-Dec-2007 16:20:44] <phlycoder> thanks
[17-Dec-2007 16:20:46] <ke4qqq> np
[17-Dec-2007 16:24:41] <phlycoder> well I went to /Devices/Printer and selected Templates but there is no button to copy template local and I'm logged in as admin... from the drop down next to available performance templates there is the option to copy templates but no templates checked and no checkboxes are visible
[17-Dec-2007 16:25:10] <phlycoder> I'm running the 2.1.1 tarball downloaded last wednesday
[17-Dec-2007 16:25:28] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: have you improted MIBs to translate SNMP traps?
[17-Dec-2007 16:25:48] <klinstifen> *imported
[17-Dec-2007 16:36:23] <ke4qqq> klinstifen: yes
[17-Dec-2007 16:36:47] <klinstifen> alright, after you imported them...is the OID displayed in the event summary column
[17-Dec-2007 16:37:08] <ke4qqq> hang on let me look, I think so....
[17-Dec-2007 16:38:33] <ke4qqq> hmmm no
[17-Dec-2007 16:38:41] <ke4qqq> summary       snmp trap cgStopTrap from kmfs01
[17-Dec-2007 16:39:51] <klinstifen> hrmm....i imported mibs, but i think it was after i got the trap. did you have to do anything after importing the mibs or did it start translating on it's own?
[17-Dec-2007 16:40:24] <ke4qqq> it starts translating on it's own, but it's day forward - ie, only traps that come after you install the mibs
[17-Dec-2007 16:41:01] <klinstifen> is there a way to clear the "history" so it will start translating oid's it received before the mib import?
[17-Dec-2007 16:41:51] <ke4qqq> not that I know of.....but I know exactly what I have read and learned by trial nad error.....
[17-Dec-2007 16:43:18] <klinstifen> same here
[17-Dec-2007 16:43:22] <klinstifen> must read more
[17-Dec-2007 16:43:34] <klinstifen> but you helped, cuz now i know it isn't being transalted
[17-Dec-2007 17:09:43] <ke4qqq> I have to say - since discovering the power of editing templates and being able to incorporate anything from WMI to SNMP to commands running on SSH or against DBs that I am very impressed with the ease of which I can make changes to scores of machines monitoring capabilities.
[17-Dec-2007 17:10:18] <ke4qqq> all from  a webgui - far easier than Nagios......
[17-Dec-2007 17:10:31] <klinstifen> i agree whole heartedly
[17-Dec-2007 17:10:42] <klinstifen> i looked at the GUI for nagios and never gave it a shot
[17-Dec-2007 17:10:47] <klinstifen> but i did play with Hyperic
[17-Dec-2007 17:10:54] <klinstifen> and this is world's easier to use
[17-Dec-2007 17:10:55] <exkev> if only the per-host/class overriding was more granular
[17-Dec-2007 17:11:11] <ke4qqq> I do fear that Zenoss doesn't yet get the right business model yet....
[17-Dec-2007 17:11:17] <ke4qqq> exkev: what do you mean?
[17-Dec-2007 17:11:51] <exkev> if I want to alter a threshold for a host, say cpu idle time, I have to clone the whole template, not just override the thresh
[17-Dec-2007 17:12:18] <exkev> so any changes to my parent classes' templates have to then be copied again to the overridden templates
[17-Dec-2007 17:12:44] <ke4qqq> ahhh ok..... yeah - perhjaps that's a change request to be submitted - it makes a lot of sense to reduce problems.
[17-Dec-2007 17:17:46] <ke4qqq> come to think of it - that would be very useful - I still have a number of PowerEdge 2650's that I am trying to build ZenPacks for, but I have it monitoring Virtual disk status - and since the number of VD changes between host it would be nice to turn on/off monitoring for each level of VD.
[17-Dec-2007 17:18:04] <ke4qqq> on a per host basis
[17-Dec-2007 17:38:01] <wbeene> hi
[17-Dec-2007 17:41:32] <ke4qqq> hi wbeene
[17-Dec-2007 17:42:48] <wbeene> i'm trying to find the svn or cvs for zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 17:42:54] <wbeene> i'm looking around on the site
[17-Dec-2007 17:42:57] <wbeene> i can find the trac site
[17-Dec-2007 17:43:24] <ke4qqq> you just want to check it out, or you want to browse?
[17-Dec-2007 17:43:59] <wbeene> check it out
[17-Dec-2007 17:44:01] <ke4qqq> http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/
[17-Dec-2007 17:44:06] <wbeene> ok thanks
[17-Dec-2007 17:44:11] <ke4qqq> np
[17-Dec-2007 17:44:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Revision 7891: / (at dev.zenoss.org)
[17-Dec-2007 17:49:37] <wbeene> is the source for the ZenNetMap included in subversion?
[17-Dec-2007 17:52:17] <wbeene> i foudn it
[17-Dec-2007 17:52:18] <wbeene> found
[17-Dec-2007 18:07:25] <MoreDakka> can anyone tell me how to get zenoss v1.1.1 to start on boot?
[17-Dec-2007 18:12:31] <ke4qqq> MoreDakka: what distro?
[17-Dec-2007 18:12:40] <MoreDakka> fc4
[17-Dec-2007 18:12:51] <MoreDakka> I've tried chkconfig zenoss on
[17-Dec-2007 18:12:57] <ke4qqq> did it not install init scripts in /etc/init.d/
[17-Dec-2007 18:13:19] <ke4qqq> and chkconfig --list | grep zenoss shows it as on?
[17-Dec-2007 18:13:27] <MoreDakka> I don't have anything in init.d
[17-Dec-2007 18:13:28] <ke4qqq> for the runlevel you boot into
[17-Dec-2007 18:13:47] <MoreDakka> Nothing.
[17-Dec-2007 18:14:21] <wbeene> which distro are you using
[17-Dec-2007 18:14:25] <MoreDakka> fc4
[17-Dec-2007 18:14:46] <wbeene> some distros have an /etc/rc.d/ but i don't know for fc4
[17-Dec-2007 18:14:55] <ke4qqq> FC* has all of the startup scripts in /etc/init.d
[17-Dec-2007 18:15:13] <ke4qqq> and F* and RHEL/CentOS for that matter.......
[17-Dec-2007 18:15:47] <johns55> so i'm able to see my CPU load under the perf tab with the charges, however, under the OS tab, i dont see a setting there? how am I able to set up a CPU load threshold?
[17-Dec-2007 18:16:07] <ke4qqq> paste the results of this MoreDakka:  chkconfig --list | grep zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 18:16:24] <MoreDakka> doesn't come up with anything.
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:03] <ke4qqq> then zenoss isn't in chkconfig list of init scripts.....did 1.1 require manual copying of init scripts?
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:05] <johns55> MoreDakka, you need to copy your zenoss file from /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenoss to /etc/init.d/
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:07] <ke4qqq> I can't remember
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:09] <johns55> then you type
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:13] <johns55> chkconfig --add zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:21] <johns55> then type chkconfig --level 2345 zenoss on
[17-Dec-2007 18:17:49] <ke4qqq> johns55: short answer, go to the drop down, more templates, add a template (or modify the Device template) and set the threshholds there
[17-Dec-2007 18:18:06] <ke4qqq> the threshhold that is set is in the devices template. iirc
[17-Dec-2007 18:18:29] <MoreDakka> Ah thanks.
[17-Dec-2007 18:18:39] <MoreDakka> I couldn't find the zenoss file to copy to init.d
[17-Dec-2007 18:18:47] <MoreDakka> that seems to have done it.
[17-Dec-2007 18:18:51] <johns55> i should be /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 18:19:01] <MoreDakka> zenoss          0:off   1:off   2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off
[17-Dec-2007 18:19:46] <johns55> great you're done
[17-Dec-2007 18:19:48] <MoreDakka> Yep, that's where it was..  The instructions on the zenoss site show $ZENHOME/zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 18:20:08] <MoreDakka> Thanks johns55 and ke4qqq
[17-Dec-2007 18:20:20] <johns55> well you should have specified your $ZENOSSHOME in your /etc/profile
[17-Dec-2007 18:20:55] <johns55> ke4qqq, I created a new template named CPU load, but what ID should I name it?
[17-Dec-2007 18:22:16] <MoreDakka> johns55:  Yeah, $ZENHOME in v1.1.1 would be /usr/local/zenoss/
[17-Dec-2007 18:23:08] <ke4qqq> anything you want, it literally doesn't matter
[17-Dec-2007 18:23:27] <johns55> ke4qqq, ok nm, it's actually there under the device template called CPU utilization
[17-Dec-2007 18:23:52] <ke4qqq> yeah you can modify it there - but either make a local copy or realize that it will migrate to every machine using that template
[17-Dec-2007 18:24:21] <johns55> now my only question is that I have mysql, ntpd, httpd running on some of these machines, and the snmp isnt detecting it to monitor
[17-Dec-2007 18:24:59] <johns55> when I try to add ipservices, it will only be able to add sshd, then after adding sshd and refresing my modeling, the sshd ipservice will disappear
[17-Dec-2007 18:29:48] <ke4qqq> why is it only able to add ssh?
[17-Dec-2007 18:30:06] <johns55> i'm not sure, if i try to add httpd, it will say ipservice doesnt exisit
[17-Dec-2007 18:30:19] <ke4qqq> it's http
[17-Dec-2007 18:30:31] <ke4qqq> httpd is a daemon from apache soft. found.
[17-Dec-2007 18:30:43] <johns55> are there specific names for these services?
[17-Dec-2007 18:30:43] <ke4qqq> it's in my service list anyway...
[17-Dec-2007 18:31:12] <ke4qqq> when I click Add service, I eventually get a drop drown with all of them listed
[17-Dec-2007 18:31:21] <johns55> i also have a system that detects the ipservices but the status is grayed out
[17-Dec-2007 18:31:23] <ke4qqq> and if I type h, I see http, https, httpalt
[17-Dec-2007 18:31:25] <ke4qqq> etc
[17-Dec-2007 18:31:44] <ke4qqq> I think the defautl is not to monitor......iirc, but I may have misread that
[17-Dec-2007 18:33:19] <johns55> zenoss is monitoring itself and it has smtp, smux, mysql, http-alt listed under IP services but the status is grayed out
[17-Dec-2007 18:33:41] <johns55> i added in ssh manually and the status is green for that, but the rest is grayed out
[17-Dec-2007 18:34:01] <johns55> theres also a monitored checkbox on top, when I check this, the grayed out services would hide
[17-Dec-2007 18:34:54] <ke4qqq> if you click on those services and change monitor to true do they ungray?
[17-Dec-2007 18:36:16] <johns55> ahhh they are green now
[17-Dec-2007 18:36:20] <johns55> let me try some more services
[17-Dec-2007 18:37:17] <johns55> some services do not have the option to set monitored to true
[17-Dec-2007 18:37:49] <johns55> the status state monitored is false and theres no pull down menu
[17-Dec-2007 18:38:04] <johns55> im getting this for smtp and SMUX
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[17-Dec-2007 18:42:21] <ke4qqq> hmm interesting
[17-Dec-2007 18:42:29] <johns55> let me try to add/re-add
[17-Dec-2007 18:43:30] <johns55> ok, removing and re-adding works
[17-Dec-2007 18:43:43] <johns55> the only thing im afraid of is when they auto-remodel, will it disappear?
[17-Dec-2007 18:43:57] <ke4qqq> Can't you lock services (I don't know what that does)
[17-Dec-2007 18:44:06] <ke4qqq> but it sounds promising
[17-Dec-2007 18:44:21] <johns55> let me do a search on that on the forums
[17-Dec-2007 18:44:40] <ke4qqq> I see that in my dropdown on Services
[17-Dec-2007 18:45:00] <ke4qqq> under /Device/OS/$devname/os/
[17-Dec-2007 18:46:17] <ke4qqq> I just did that on one of my devices and I think that does what you want it to do
[17-Dec-2007 18:46:18] <johns55> yes i believe this is it
[17-Dec-2007 18:47:14] <johns55> Something truly annoying we discovered is that if you enable service monitoring for a few servers, but leave the global default as Monitor=False, Zenoss will dutifully delete the service you just manually added. We were wondering what that "lock" functionality did. It turns out that you must "lock" services that are added manually, if you want them to stick around through the next device modeling, which happens every six hours by def
[17-Dec-2007 18:49:34] <johns55> ahh how frustrating, i manually added smtp and snmp and not it is reporting down
[17-Dec-2007 18:49:36] <johns55> when in fact it is up
[17-Dec-2007 18:51:40] <ke4qqq> hmmmmm firewall issue?
[17-Dec-2007 18:52:18] <johns55> i dont believe so, this is zenoss monitoring itself
[17-Dec-2007 18:52:50] <ke4qqq> ahhhh wonder if it's trying on localhost or on the external interfaces?
[17-Dec-2007 18:53:22] <johns55> yes however i tried to telnet to port 25 with localhost and its external name and able to get the mail prompt
[17-Dec-2007 18:54:21] <ke4qqq> but what about to the external IP?
[17-Dec-2007 18:54:28] <ke4qqq> instead of name
[17-Dec-2007 18:54:35] <johns55> yes the external hostname will resolve to the external IP
[17-Dec-2007 18:54:39] <ke4qqq> useing the name from localhost should still resolve to 127.0.0.1
[17-Dec-2007 18:54:41] <johns55> let me try to remodel these suckers
[17-Dec-2007 18:54:46] <ke4qqq> really......
[17-Dec-2007 18:55:09] <ke4qqq> your hosts file doesn't have the hostname for the machine and it's actually resolving the name from a nmaeserver?
[17-Dec-2007 18:55:34] <johns55> hrm you might have a pt there
[17-Dec-2007 18:55:38] <johns55> lets see
[17-Dec-2007 18:56:13] <johns55> ahhh yes
[17-Dec-2007 18:56:17] <johns55> now i see the problem
[17-Dec-2007 18:57:09] <johns55> let me talk to my network admin
[17-Dec-2007 18:59:22] <johns55> so ke4qqq, what do you usually set to monitor on these boxes? so far i have the default ip interfaces, my ip services, file system threshold set to 90% and i believe default is also CPU utilization, is there anything else?
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[17-Dec-2007 19:01:42] <ke4qqq> well I am coming back now so I am not compeltely setup yet.....but ip services, file system, cpu, etc....I also have it watch my raid controllers, power supplies, fans, etc.
[17-Dec-2007 19:02:09] <ke4qqq> esp on boxes that I have virtualization running on - those are critical b/c a single machine loss might me 10-20 machines.
[17-Dec-2007 19:02:32] <johns55> wow, how did you find the mibs for the power supplies and fan?
[17-Dec-2007 19:02:57] <ke4qqq> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/detail.html
[17-Dec-2007 19:03:07] <ke4qqq> and lots of snmpwalk
[17-Dec-2007 19:03:08] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere's MIB Download Area (at www.oidview.com)
[17-Dec-2007 19:03:24] <ke4qqq> coupled with things like pulling power supply cords
[17-Dec-2007 19:03:30] <ke4qqq> until I was 'really' sure
[17-Dec-2007 19:03:44] <ke4qqq> I set threshholds to alarm on all of those things as well
[17-Dec-2007 19:04:23] <johns55> are you running dells over there?
[17-Dec-2007 19:04:26] <ke4qqq> but unfortunately I have an ungodly number of different platforms, but most are either dell or hp, so they share a lot of commonality
[17-Dec-2007 19:05:05] <ke4qqq> yeah - most of what I have setup thus far has been dells.
[17-Dec-2007 19:06:49] <ke4qqq> the hp junk has been frustrating thus far - and I haven't followed up to get everything working just yet.....but after I get all of the dells squared away - I will.
[17-Dec-2007 19:06:56] <johns55> im checking out the mibs for dells on that page, which mib do you recommend?
[17-Dec-2007 19:07:10] <johns55> just a default standard dell
[17-Dec-2007 19:07:15] <johns55> no VM, arry, raid, etc
[17-Dec-2007 19:07:57] <ke4qqq> well you have to have openmanage installed first to have access to the mibs
[17-Dec-2007 19:08:06] <johns55> ahh
[17-Dec-2007 19:08:24] <ke4qqq> and 10892 covers everything except arrays
[17-Dec-2007 19:09:29] <ke4qqq> at least for me, but ymmv
[17-Dec-2007 19:12:18] <ke4qqq> 10890 may be non-server machines
[17-Dec-2007 19:17:12] <johns55> ahh ok
[17-Dec-2007 19:17:32] <johns55> what distro r u running on the monitored servers?
[17-Dec-2007 19:18:04] <johns55> ahh man, i can telnet to snmp port 199 on a machine however it is reporting down
[17-Dec-2007 19:45:26] <ke4qqq> hmmmm thought snmp was 161, and thought it was udp, so you shouldn't be able to telnet (a tcp protocol)
[17-Dec-2007 19:45:52] <ke4qqq> some win2k3 and the balance CentOS 4.x or 5.1
[17-Dec-2007 19:58:14] <johns55> so i added the ntp port 123 to monitoring
[17-Dec-2007 19:58:21] <johns55> shows that status is green and up
[17-Dec-2007 19:58:35] <johns55> however i go into the machine and shut it down, it's been 15-20 mins and it still shows up
[17-Dec-2007 20:03:05] <ke4qqq> hmmmm thats troubling , are you sure it's dead??? netstat -l show anything running on 123?
[17-Dec-2007 20:03:33] <johns55> nope
[17-Dec-2007 20:03:37] <johns55> man this is strange
[17-Dec-2007 20:03:55] <johns55> i have zenoss monitoring itself, it is able to auto detect all the ipservices that are running and I can set it up monitor
[17-Dec-2007 20:04:07] <johns55> so i added ntp under zenoss, and turn if off
[17-Dec-2007 20:04:14] <johns55> it will show and email me it is down
[17-Dec-2007 20:04:44] <johns55> however, on external machines, it wont autodetect the ipservices, i have to add it manually, and even then then i turn the service off on that machine it will not alert me or show that it is down
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[17-Dec-2007 20:25:20] <ke4qqq> hmmmm interesting......wonder why that is....it appears to be detecting most of them on my end...
[17-Dec-2007 20:25:27] <ke4qqq> at least privileged stuff
[17-Dec-2007 20:26:59] <johns55> ahh weird
[17-Dec-2007 20:27:10] <johns55> so i turned off ntp, and it gives me an alert
[17-Dec-2007 20:27:13] <johns55> then i turn it back on
[17-Dec-2007 20:27:17] <johns55> and it still says it is down!
[17-Dec-2007 20:27:36] <johns55> ke4, are you services running both ipv4 and ipv6 protocols?
[17-Dec-2007 20:29:51] <OO10O> hey guys how are you?
[17-Dec-2007 20:30:57] <OO10O> I just stepped into an environment that has a ZenOSS installation and I'm not sure exactly where to start. First off, I want to be able to add myself as a username and password so I can login to the web interface. Does anyone know how I would accomplish this? I have root on the server so I can do anything/edit any file.
[17-Dec-2007 20:32:12] <johns55> 00100: http://ip of machine:8080
[17-Dec-2007 20:32:20] <johns55> then enter username and password for admin
[17-Dec-2007 20:32:23] <johns55> then..read docs
[17-Dec-2007 20:32:58] <OO10O> it's already setup
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:08] <OO10O> so where would I look for current users and how could I add current users?
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:10] <OO10O> the other admin died
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:16] <OO10O> I inherited this.
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:20] <OO10O> I just started.
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:45] <johns55> have u read the documentation? i highly recommend it
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:52] <OO10O> well I need to do this fast.
[17-Dec-2007 20:33:55] <OO10O> I don't have much time.
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:11] <johns55> heh, you will run into more trouble if u get admin access and play around
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:13] <ke4qqq> I hate to say this, but Zenoss is complex creature ....it's gonna take some time....
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:23] <ke4qqq> one way or the other....
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:27] <OO10O> I can get support from them, correct/
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:35] <johns55> yes you will need to pay
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:39] <OO10O> not a problem
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:42] <OO10O> how much?
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:48] <johns55> please contact them on their website
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:49] <ke4qqq> I mean don't get me wrong - it's simpler than nagios, but it's still complex.
[17-Dec-2007 20:34:52] <ke4qqq> it's per host
[17-Dec-2007 20:35:00] <OO10O> well I've setup Nagios many a times
[17-Dec-2007 20:35:03] <ke4qqq> I think it's around $50/monitored hosts
[17-Dec-2007 20:35:05] <OO10O> so it should be pretty a breeze.
[17-Dec-2007 20:35:27] <ke4qqq> see if he left the admin password as either admin or zenoss....those are the defaults
[17-Dec-2007 20:35:38] <ke4qqq> if not, it's in the mysql database.....
[17-Dec-2007 20:35:59] <OO10O> ah great.
[17-Dec-2007 20:36:01] <OO10O> I guessed the pw
[17-Dec-2007 20:36:05] <OO10O> admin/*****
[17-Dec-2007 20:36:30] <OO10O> does this also dual as Cacti?
[17-Dec-2007 20:36:35] <OO10O> a cacti like tool rather.
[17-Dec-2007 20:36:37] <ke4qqq> yes it has cacti
[17-Dec-2007 20:36:43] <ke4qqq> and nagios and other tools
[17-Dec-2007 20:37:16] <OO10O> hrm.
[17-Dec-2007 20:37:24] <OO10O> it's not really cacti though, correct?
[17-Dec-2007 20:37:47] <OO10O> i.e. They didn't take cacti 1:1 and put another layer on top of it.
[17-Dec-2007 20:38:36] <ke4qqq> no, it's more rrdtool + nagios
[17-Dec-2007 20:39:01] <OO10O> understood.
[17-Dec-2007 20:39:44] <ke4qqq> but most people think of cacti == rrdtool, or they are more familiar with cacti so that's easier to say.
[17-Dec-2007 20:42:34] <OO10O> yea, I'm probably going to use Cacti for graphing
[17-Dec-2007 20:42:39] <OO10O> and this for monitoring
[17-Dec-2007 20:44:42] <klinstifen> ke4qqq & OO10O: when graphing is there a way to get the line/area to be below the x-axis and stil have the legend show positive values?
[17-Dec-2007 20:44:59] <klinstifen> right now i RPN -1,* into my line/area
[17-Dec-2007 20:45:17] <klinstifen> and then have the GPRINTs point to the original, un-RPN'ed, CDEF's
[17-Dec-2007 20:45:22] <klinstifen> is there an easier way?
[17-Dec-2007 20:48:11] <klinstifen> anyone know what the definition of MessagesSubmitted is? Win32_PerfRawData_MSExchangeIS_MSExchangeISMailbox has values fro sent, delivered and submitted. I'd think submitted == received...but not sure
[17-Dec-2007 20:58:44] <Ecalix> i cant seem to find in the docs what the default URL is after the install on zenoss. forgive me if im just over looking it
[17-Dec-2007 21:00:43] <johns55> just port 8080
[17-Dec-2007 21:01:56] <Ecalix> *sigh* tyvm, and default user/pass? this has to be in the docs, i cant believe i'm not finding the info.
[17-Dec-2007 21:10:57] <ke4qqq> zenoss admin
[17-Dec-2007 21:11:03] <ke4qqq> errr...admin/zenoss
[17-Dec-2007 21:11:07] <ke4qqq> or admin/admin
[17-Dec-2007 21:11:12] <ke4qqq> depending on how u installed
[17-Dec-2007 21:14:22] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: do you know how to flip the grap so it goes below the x-axis?
[17-Dec-2007 21:14:28] <klinstifen> *graph
[17-Dec-2007 21:15:44] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: you there?
[17-Dec-2007 21:17:47] <ke4qqq> mmmmm no....
[17-Dec-2007 21:18:02] <ke4qqq> sorry I don't not off the top of my head.......let me play with it a bit though
[17-Dec-2007 21:19:33] <klinstifen> oh nm...just answered my own question
[17-Dec-2007 21:20:03] <ke4qqq> well then please share.......
[17-Dec-2007 21:20:07] <ke4qqq> how does one do it
[17-Dec-2007 21:20:32] <klinstifen> In the RPN for the datapoint just put -1,*
[17-Dec-2007 21:20:46] <ke4qqq> interesting
[17-Dec-2007 21:20:50] <klinstifen> if you are doing other values (like switching from seconds to minutes) then do -1,60,*,*
[17-Dec-2007 21:21:05] <klinstifen> if you graph is 100x500
[17-Dec-2007 21:21:13] <klinstifen> then everthing gets really scrunched
[17-Dec-2007 21:21:21] <klinstifen> goes from informative to eye-candy
[17-Dec-2007 21:21:24] <ke4qqq> interessant
[17-Dec-2007 21:26:13] <klinstifen> oh snap! just figured out transparency
[17-Dec-2007 21:26:20] <klinstifen> mmmm cool looking graphs
[17-Dec-2007 21:29:41] <ke4qqq> cool......you know, I like the wiki at zenoss - but perhaps we need to throw up a wiki somewhere to begin catalouging all of this stuff.....
[17-Dec-2007 21:30:38] <klinstifen> yeah
[17-Dec-2007 21:30:42] <ke4qqq> unless you already have commit perms on the zenoss wiki
[17-Dec-2007 21:30:50] <klinstifen> so much is just pieced together from research
[17-Dec-2007 21:31:15] <ke4qqq> yeah - I know the feeling
[17-Dec-2007 21:31:38] <ke4qqq> google has really been my friend in finding some of this stuff (got a lot from nagios and cacti forums)
[17-Dec-2007 21:31:46] <adytum-bot> http://blog.meebo.com/?p=73
[17-Dec-2007 21:32:01] <klinstifen> oh yeah, definitely...cacti forum esp for me
[17-Dec-2007 21:39:07] <johns55> ahh i know whats is wrong now, ipv6 is enabled for some services, it makes zenoss go crazy
[17-Dec-2007 21:39:33] <johns55> the problem is some programs are running both ipv4 and ipv6 and im not sure how to force only ipv4
[17-Dec-2007 22:09:03] <johns55> geez does this mean i would need to disable ipv6 globally through my kernel?
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[18-Dec-2007 00:10:23] <johns55> anyone having trouble monitoring udp ip services??
[18-Dec-2007 00:14:16] <quickQ> Hello I have a super quick most-faq that I can't find on the faq
[18-Dec-2007 00:14:53] <quickQ> Which conf file is it to change the admin port 8080 to something else?
[18-Dec-2007 00:43:11] <ziggurat> zope.conf
[18-Dec-2007 00:55:10] <johns55> what do u guys use to test cpu threshold?
[18-Dec-2007 01:02:17] <monrad> stupid users?
[18-Dec-2007 01:02:31] <quickQ> ziggurat: I did that 30s after I asked, but thanks anyway
[18-Dec-2007 01:02:54] <quickQ> monrad: yes
[18-Dec-2007 01:02:57] <quickQ> me included
[18-Dec-2007 01:03:20] <monrad> ah its was meant for johns55
[18-Dec-2007 02:00:10] <raddy> Hi Everybody]
[18-Dec-2007 02:01:09] <raddy> How do i monitor web site's availability?
[18-Dec-2007 02:04:20] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[18-Dec-2007 04:33:04] <banadushi> Does anyone know howto add an IP service to a device using XMLRPC or REST calls?
[18-Dec-2007 04:33:32] <banadushi> I figure its manage_IPServices, but don't know what the correct path is.
[18-Dec-2007 05:24:43] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Handwriting on the Sky - Looks like I'll be going to PyCon after all - 18 Dec, 04:23AM
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[18-Dec-2007 09:56:06] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
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[18-Dec-2007 15:29:00] <amish_geek> would there be any forseeable issues with running zenoss and intermapper on the same server?
[18-Dec-2007 15:29:53] <ke4qqq> I can't think of any - as an aside I thought the amish eschewed technology
[18-Dec-2007 15:30:04] <ke4qqq> of course I have never tried combining the two
[18-Dec-2007 15:30:29] <ke4qqq> and don't know that I can see what you'd get out of it
[18-Dec-2007 15:30:39] <ke4qqq> actually.....listening for traps might conflict
[18-Dec-2007 15:31:57] <amish_geek> yeah, that was what i was thinking... but if they were configured to listen on separate IP's (this is a freebsd box)
[18-Dec-2007 15:32:26] <amish_geek> i don't remember if intermapper uses net-snmp or if it uses it's own snmp daemon
[18-Dec-2007 15:37:17] <MoreDakka_> What's the kill command to force kill a pid?
[18-Dec-2007 15:43:11] <amish_geek> killall -9 pid?
[18-Dec-2007 15:54:17] <klinstifen> kill -9 pid too
[18-Dec-2007 15:56:50] <amish_geek> i prefer killall over kill, i feel more like a dictator that way
[18-Dec-2007 15:57:16] <amish_geek> mass process genocide, can't have the pid revolting you know
[18-Dec-2007 15:59:58] <MoreDakka_> hehe...thanks
[18-Dec-2007 18:22:09] <Ecalix> so i'm more familiar with nagios than zenoss. Is there a client app to install such as nagios does? or can you only monitor with SNMP?
[18-Dec-2007 18:27:35] <ke4qqq> Ecalix: no, you can monitor with wmi, ssh, or any command you can perform from the unix command line
[18-Dec-2007 18:29:10] <Ecalix> hmm ok. i guess i'm just a bit confused about monitoring windows systems now.
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[18-Dec-2007 18:36:11] <ke4qqq> it does use snmp by default, but anything you can monitor with wmi you can monitor with zenoss, I think the module is called zenwin
[18-Dec-2007 18:37:56] <ke4qqq> I think back in the 1.x time frame there as a client, but I think they obviated the need for that.
[18-Dec-2007 19:02:15] <darkhorse> i monitor all my linux and windows boxes with SNMP
[18-Dec-2007 19:02:29] <darkhorse> but for SNMP on windows you will need to also install the snmp informant
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[18-Dec-2007 19:05:02] <johns55> anyone successfully get udp ports to be monitored via SNMP?
[18-Dec-2007 19:05:16] <johns55> if not, is it possible to monitor a system with both portscan and SNMP?
[18-Dec-2007 19:42:07] <klinstifen> anyone know where the renderserver logs are stored?
[18-Dec-2007 19:44:13] <klinstifen> nm found it...in the zopectl log
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[18-Dec-2007 21:33:22] <rchrch> Having a problem where all my graphs render without any values and max, min, avg, etc are "NaN"
[18-Dec-2007 21:33:34] <rchrch> When it happens I see this in event.log: 2007-12-18T13:26:51 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x06, class Products.TemporaryFolder.TemporaryFolder.SimpleTemporaryContainer) at /zport/RenderServer/render (1 conflicts, of which 0 were unresolved, since startup at Tue Dec 18 11:23:13 2007)
[18-Dec-2007 21:34:25] <rchrch> I've been trying to find it with zopectl debug, digging around in the database to see what's causing the conflict, but I can't figure it out
[18-Dec-2007 21:34:31] <rchrch> Anyone have any ideas?
[18-Dec-2007 21:40:58] <rchrch> In zopectl I tried this:
[18-Dec-2007 21:41:14] <rchrch> c = Zope2.DB.open()
[18-Dec-2007 21:41:14] <rchrch> ; root = c.root()
[18-Dec-2007 21:41:14] <rchrch> ; root['ZGlobals']._p_jar.get('0x06');
[18-Dec-2007 21:41:23] <rchrch> But I just get a POSKeyError
[18-Dec-2007 21:52:40] <Chris_D> I'm having trouble with an upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.1.1.
[18-Dec-2007 21:52:45] <Chris_D> The zenmigrate is failing.
[18-Dec-2007 21:53:20] <Chris_D> I'm getting a zExcptions.NotFound: some-host-in-my-database
[18-Dec-2007 21:53:37] <Chris_D> I tried removing that host, still get the same message.
[18-Dec-2007 21:55:50] <Chris_D> The exception comes right after the Recovering step.
[18-Dec-2007 22:03:55] <edavison>  looking for some DB help here. I only have 2 db tables in mysql and
[18-Dec-2007 22:04:00] <edavison>            that seems wrong.
[18-Dec-2007 22:04:14] <edavison> Am I missing something here abou the DB integration with MySQL?
[18-Dec-2007 22:34:04] <edavison> Anyone out there with DB experience with zenoss?
[18-Dec-2007 22:44:12] <darkhorse> what tables do you have
[18-Dec-2007 22:46:44] <darkhorse> i see 6 tables in my events DB for zenoss
[18-Dec-2007 23:19:54] <rchrch> edavison: You know about ZODB yes?
[18-Dec-2007 23:20:51] <darkhorse> he was referring to the MySQL event db
[18-Dec-2007 23:21:01] <darkhorse> not the object db
[18-Dec-2007 23:21:06] <rchrch> Sure, sounded like he expected more in it ...
[18-Dec-2007 23:21:16] <rchrch> Thought I'd mention zenoss has other storage also.
[18-Dec-2007 23:21:27] <darkhorse> well there should be more than 2 tables that he sees
[18-Dec-2007 23:21:54] <rchrch> Ah true
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[19-Dec-2007 00:17:49] <foo> Will 512MB of RAM, Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 3060 @ 2.40GHz in a VPS handle 3 dozen systems to monitor?
[19-Dec-2007 00:17:55] <foo> I imagine so, just curious
[19-Dec-2007 00:18:10] <monrad> i would think so
[19-Dec-2007 00:18:28] <monrad> but with many rrd files it gets memory hungry
[19-Dec-2007 00:19:07] <foo> What does an rrd file do?
[19-Dec-2007 00:20:00] <monrad> its were zenoss saves the performance grafs data and such
[19-Dec-2007 00:20:51] <foo> I see
[19-Dec-2007 00:21:02] <foo> Is zenoss more RAM hungry than nagios?
[19-Dec-2007 00:21:29] <foo> If you'd happen to know, just thinking out loud here
[19-Dec-2007 00:21:50] <monrad> i think so
[19-Dec-2007 00:45:11] <darkhorse> it will work with 512mb ram... but if you can get more it would be better
[19-Dec-2007 00:45:54] <darkhorse> i have a freiend that is monitoring 30 some devices on a 500mhz with 256 mb ram... so it is possible, but the UI might not be as quick
[19-Dec-2007 01:17:42] <johns55> anyone know how to check the status of a cronjob that does rsync backups?
[19-Dec-2007 01:55:24] <foo> darkhorse: gotcha, thanks
[19-Dec-2007 02:53:49] <krigney> i have a question
[19-Dec-2007 02:54:20] <krigney> i am installing zenoss on a new centOS install
[19-Dec-2007 02:55:05] <krigney> and when i have to install the RPM, i dont know how to do it. I need to download the rpm, but I am a linux newbie and have no idea what I am doing. Please help!
[19-Dec-2007 02:56:10] <foo> download rpm, do rpm -Uhv zenoss.rpm
[19-Dec-2007 02:56:41] <krigney> no such file or directory
[19-Dec-2007 02:56:47] <krigney> is the error
[19-Dec-2007 02:56:54] <foo> krigney: where zenoss.rpm is the name of the rpm you download
[19-Dec-2007 02:56:57] <foo> I don't know what it is offhand
[19-Dec-2007 02:57:11] <krigney> should i have the sourceforge link?
[19-Dec-2007 02:57:15] <krigney> and use that?
[19-Dec-2007 02:57:31] <foo> If it's direct to the RPM, you can try that, I believe that works
[19-Dec-2007 02:57:35] <krigney> thanks
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[19-Dec-2007 05:27:47] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[19-Dec-2007 05:27:59] <raddy> One simple question
[19-Dec-2007 05:28:12] <raddy> How do i remodel a device?
[19-Dec-2007 06:10:46] <darkhorse> go to the device, click the down arrow and goto manage and model
[19-Dec-2007 06:11:00] <darkhorse> but by default zenoss remodels every 12 hrs iirc
[19-Dec-2007 08:48:31] <raddy> Anybody there?
[19-Dec-2007 11:24:16] <tijmen> hi *
[19-Dec-2007 11:26:36] <tijmen> I'm having some troubles getting the graphs and tried all the possible solutions in the forum but still no luck
[19-Dec-2007 11:26:55] <tijmen> the rrd files are created but are all the same size
[19-Dec-2007 11:27:29] <tijmen> however there is a different device of which I can see the graphs correctly
[19-Dec-2007 11:27:45] <tijmen> the rrd files are also the same size
[19-Dec-2007 11:27:58] <tijmen> pretty strange I think
[19-Dec-2007 11:30:35] <tijmen> someone out there that has a great solution for me?
[19-Dec-2007 11:42:36] <tijmen> anyone?
[19-Dec-2007 15:03:44] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[19-Dec-2007 16:39:57] darkhorse` is now known as darkhorse
[19-Dec-2007 17:18:10] <chris_d> I have two classes of servers that I've separated into different classes.
[19-Dec-2007 17:18:17] <chris_d> I copied templates for each class.
[19-Dec-2007 17:18:27] <chris_d> In one, I removed the cpu threshold alert.
[19-Dec-2007 17:18:35] <chris_d> In the other, I removed the temperature threshold alert.
[19-Dec-2007 17:19:54] <chris_d> I'm still getting alerts for temp and cpu thresholds for all machines.
[19-Dec-2007 18:15:21] <MuseHome> evening everyone, is SNMP the only thing auto-discovery can use?
[19-Dec-2007 18:16:37] <MuseHome> or is there the ability to use WMI or NMAP for open ports?
[19-Dec-2007 18:44:53] FuL|OUT is now known as fulgas
[19-Dec-2007 18:54:59] PerlStalker is now known as PS-afk
[19-Dec-2007 19:46:40] <ke4qqq> seems like there was away to tell zenoss to recategorize event levels, but I have forgotten how to do such.
[19-Dec-2007 19:48:31] <johns55> anyone able to monitor a device using both snmp and portscan?
[19-Dec-2007 19:48:44] <johns55> i need to monitor something that is on UDP ports and snmp is not doing a good job of that
[19-Dec-2007 20:04:33] PS-afk is now known as PerlStalker
[19-Dec-2007 20:43:05] <johns55> any ideas?
[19-Dec-2007 20:47:24] <ke4qqq> none here
[19-Dec-2007 20:47:41] <ke4qqq> though I don't think that it can use snmp to monitor whether a port is active
[19-Dec-2007 20:47:53] <ke4qqq> so that would lead me to think that it's use portscan at least a bit
[19-Dec-2007 20:57:15] <johns55> it sucks cuz services like ntp and dns can not be monitored
[19-Dec-2007 21:00:46] <johns55> and i dont want to monitor my other tcp ipservices with portscan, slow
[19-Dec-2007 21:11:12] <tijmen> is there someone here that could help me get my graphs running?
[19-Dec-2007 21:11:33] <johns55> they should be running by default if u installed zenoss correctly
[19-Dec-2007 21:11:45] <tijmen> great someone out there
[19-Dec-2007 21:11:52] <tijmen> you're right
[19-Dec-2007 21:12:09] <tijmen> I got my first graphs (localhost)
[19-Dec-2007 21:12:26] <johns55> are u running snmp?
[19-Dec-2007 21:12:38] <tijmen> however I added a few Juniper routers and till now I'm not able to get the graphs
[19-Dec-2007 21:12:50] <tijmen> I run snmp (did snmp walk and everything went fine)
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:04] <tijmen> the rrd files are created
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:10] <tijmen> but are all the same size
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:22] <johns55> did you configure your snmpd.conf file correctly?
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:39] <tijmen> when i look at the rrd files of the graphs that ARE working i can see they are also the same size
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:39] <johns55> are you trying to graph a box or router?
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:46] <tijmen> router
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:50] <johns55> o
[19-Dec-2007 21:13:56] <tijmen> juniper t640
[19-Dec-2007 21:14:09] <johns55> theres probably an snmpd setting that you did not set corerctly on the t640
[19-Dec-2007 21:14:43] <johns55> have u checked that?
[19-Dec-2007 21:14:49] <tijmen> i do get the information when i do a snmpwalk on the t640's
[19-Dec-2007 21:15:16] <johns55> cp and paste that
[19-Dec-2007 21:15:34] <tijmen> ok give me a minute
[19-Dec-2007 21:15:39] <johns55> certain snmp settings will only give you some info and not everything
[19-Dec-2007 21:15:48] <tijmen> counters and everything
[19-Dec-2007 21:15:54] <johns55> cp/paste
[19-Dec-2007 21:17:18] <tijmen> can you tell me in which part you are interested cause it's a lot of text :)
[19-Dec-2007 21:17:47] <johns55> PM me with it plz
[19-Dec-2007 21:18:53] <tijmen> PM?
[19-Dec-2007 21:19:02] <tijmen> private message?
[19-Dec-2007 21:20:52] <johns55> yes
[19-Dec-2007 21:21:05] <tijmen> how do you do that?
[19-Dec-2007 21:21:07] <johns55> r u registered in freenode?
[19-Dec-2007 21:21:14] <tijmen> nope sorry
[19-Dec-2007 21:21:54] <johns55> u need to register your nickname to private msg other parties on freenode
[19-Dec-2007 21:22:04] <johns55> u can get help how to do that in #help
[19-Dec-2007 21:22:15] <tijmen> thanks
[19-Dec-2007 21:22:28] <tijmen> I did a snmpwalk from the webinterface
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:00] <tijmen> I get like a thousand lines
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:11] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.1 = Counter32: 13056852
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:11] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.4 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:11] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.5 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:11] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.6 = Counter32: 62573
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:11] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.7 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:14] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.8 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:16] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.9 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:19] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.10 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:22] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.11 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:24] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.12 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:27] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.13 = Counter32: 13045078
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:29] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.16 = Counter32: 61733
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:30] <johns55> r u sure that mib is for the cpu graphs?
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:31] <tijmen> hmmm
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:32] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.17 = Counter32: 1107506972
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:34] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.18 = Counter32: 1043464102
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:35] <johns55> what version r u running
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:37] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.19 = Counter32: 2505443045
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:37] <johns55> 2.1.1?
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:39] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.20 = Counter32: 2505426563
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:42] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.21 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:44] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.22 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:46] <tijmen> nope I'm actually not interested in the cpu
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:47] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.23 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:49] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.24 = Counter32: 642851642
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:52] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.25 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:54] <tijmen> of zenoss?
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:54] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.26 = Counter32: 27841871
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:57] <johns55> yes
[19-Dec-2007 21:23:57] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.27 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:00] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.28 = Counter32: 27841871
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:02] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.29 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:05] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.30 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:05] <johns55> whoa stop b4 u get banned
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:07] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.31 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:10] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.32 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:10] <johns55> thats too much
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:12] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.33 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:15] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.34 = Counter32: 1512606528
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:17] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.35 = Counter32: 3043541162
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:20] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.36 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:21] <tijmen> let me check
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:22] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.37 = Counter32: 178918769
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:25] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.38 = Counter32: 254644797
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:26] <tijmen> sorry for the cp/paste
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:28] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.39 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:28] <tijmen> :)
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:30] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.40 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:33] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.41 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:35] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.42 = Counter32: 1997092112
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:38] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.43 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:40] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.44 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:43] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.45 = Counter32: 729676832
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:45] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.46 = Counter32: 1885078979
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:47] <tijmen> 2.1.1
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:48] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.47 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:50] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.48 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:53] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.49 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:56] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.50 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:24:58] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.51 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:01] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.52 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:03] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.53 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:06] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.54 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:08] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.55 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:11] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.56 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:13] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.57 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:16] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:19] <tijmen_> .58 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:21] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.59 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:24] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.60 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:26] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.61 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:29] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.62 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:31] <tijmen_> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.63 = Counter32: 0
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:41] <johns55> so the perf tab is just empty?
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:49] <tijmen> completely
[19-Dec-2007 21:25:57] <tijmen> no graphs or what so ever
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:05] <tijmen> i restarted the services
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:11] <johns55> ok..
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:17] <tijmen> more than once
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:18] <johns55> did youmove your device to the router?
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:25] <johns55> or is it still in discover
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:43] <tijmen> no i did not add the devices doing a discover
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:51] <tijmen> I just added them manually
[19-Dec-2007 21:26:57] <johns55> the device needs to be under /Devices/Network/Router
[19-Dec-2007 21:27:04] <tijmen> they are
[19-Dec-2007 21:27:26] <johns55> is there anything else it is reporting?
[19-Dec-2007 21:27:26] <tijmen> /devices/network/router/juniper to be exact
[19-Dec-2007 21:27:58] <tijmen> first they were in /devices/network/router/
[19-Dec-2007 21:28:08] <johns55> have u tried to remodel it?
[19-Dec-2007 21:28:20] <tijmen> nope i don't think so
[19-Dec-2007 21:28:28] <johns55> remodel it and tell me what it says
[19-Dec-2007 21:28:36] <tijmen> doing it now
[19-Dec-2007 21:29:07] <tijmen> takes some time
[19-Dec-2007 21:29:16] <johns55> should take no less that 1-2 minutes
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:09] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:26:49 INFO zen.Device Executing command: /usr/local/zenoss/bin/zenmodeler run --now -F -d re0-bor --weblog
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:13] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:40     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     starting collector loop
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:15] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:40     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     collecting for device re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:18] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:41     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     no cmd plugins found for re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:20] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:41     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     snmp collection device re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:23] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:41 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:26] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:42     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     no portscan plugins found for re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:28] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:43     INFO      zen.SnmpClient     snmp client finished collection for re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:29] <MoreDakka_> pastebin
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:31] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:43 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap for device re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:34] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:45 WARNING zen.IpInterface Adding IP Address 10.0.0.4 to em0.0 found it on device re0-zaza
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:37] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:45 WARNING zen.IpInterface Adding IP Address 10.0.0.1 to sp-0_0_0.16383 found it on device re0-zaza
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:40] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:46 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap for device re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:43] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:46 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing zenoss.snmp.RouteMap for device re0-bor
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:47] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:46     INFO      zen.ApplyDataMap     changes applied
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:49] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:46     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     scan time: 5.43 seconds
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:52] <tijmen_> 2007-12-19 22:27:46     INFO      zen.ZenModeler     stopping...
[19-Dec-2007 21:30:55] <tijmen> sorry for the pasting guys
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:02] <ke4qqq> tijmen: can we use pastebin.ca instead of pasting in chan?
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:02] <johns55> ok it said "changes applied"
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:13] <johns55> so something new was probably added
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:14] <johns55> check
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:22] <tijmen> checked
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:24] <tijmen> no luck
[19-Dec-2007 21:31:49] <tijmen> pastebin.ca it is ;)
[19-Dec-2007 21:32:09] <ke4qqq> thanks
[19-Dec-2007 21:34:04] <johns55> have u tried another browser?
[19-Dec-2007 21:34:14] <tijmen> I find it hard to believe that the .rrd files of the graphs that are working aren't growing
[19-Dec-2007 21:34:30] <tijmen> all the files are 35296 bytes
[19-Dec-2007 21:34:37] <johns55> so you see the graphs but no data in them?
[19-Dec-2007 21:35:24] <tijmen> no luck with IE
[19-Dec-2007 21:35:56] <tijmen> no graphs
[19-Dec-2007 21:36:25] <tijmen> I hoped I would see the graphs without the data in them
[19-Dec-2007 21:36:27] <johns55> can you do a status on zenoss to make sure its all there?
[19-Dec-2007 21:36:58] <tijmen> did it
[19-Dec-2007 21:37:01] <tijmen> everything is running
[19-Dec-2007 21:37:23] <johns55> zenperfsnmp?
[19-Dec-2007 21:37:26] <tijmen> jep
[19-Dec-2007 21:37:41] <tijmen> did it on cli
[19-Dec-2007 21:37:48] <tijmen> everything looks ok
[19-Dec-2007 21:38:25] <tijmen> checked the permissions on the files and they are the same as the files of the graphs that are working
[19-Dec-2007 21:41:13] <johns55> zenperfsnmp run -v 10 -d $YOUR_DEVICENAME 2>&1 | grep "what you want on graph"
[19-Dec-2007 21:41:56] <johns55> you might also want to monitor a box to see if u get graphs there
[19-Dec-2007 21:42:04] <johns55> if so there is an snmp settings with your router
[19-Dec-2007 21:42:35] <tijmen> on the router i just set a communitystring
[19-Dec-2007 21:42:39] <tijmen> thats all
[19-Dec-2007 21:42:51] <johns55> did u set the same on zenoss?
[19-Dec-2007 21:43:49] <johns55> check /devices/network/router/zproperties and see if it is set correctly there
[19-Dec-2007 21:44:27] <tijmen> yes it is because when i do a snmpwalk from the zenoss webUI i get all the info
[19-Dec-2007 21:44:51] <tijmen> could it be that there are just to much interfaces present?
[19-Dec-2007 21:45:35] <johns55> NO
[19-Dec-2007 21:45:44] <johns55> how do u know
[19-Dec-2007 21:46:26] <johns55> "all the info"? how can you tell its all? certain snmp settings will only give u some OIDs and not all
[19-Dec-2007 21:46:49] <johns55> u need to grep what u want from zenperfsnmp
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:00] <johns55> to check if its pulling over
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:01] <tijmen> thats true but the ones im interested in (in out octets) are there
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:13] <johns55> ok
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:18] <johns55> monitor a box
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:23] <johns55> and see if graphs show up
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:30] <tijmen_> DEBUG:zen.thresholds:Updating threshold ('Utilization 75 perc', ('re0-zaza', 'ge-1/0/0'))
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:33] <tijmen_> DEBUG:zen.thresholds:Updating threshold ('Utilization 75 perc', ('re0-zaza', 'ge-1/1/0'))
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:34] <johns55> atleast on a box u can set the snmpd.conf
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:36] <tijmen_> DEBUG:zen.thresholds:Updating threshold ('Utilization 75 perc', ('re0-zaza', 'ge-1/1/0.0'))
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:39] <tijmen_> DEBUG:zen.thresholds:Updating threshold ('Utilization 75 perc', ('re0-zaza', 'ge-1/1/0.100'))
[19-Dec-2007 21:47:42] <tijmen_> DEBUG:zen.thresholds:Updating threshold ('Utilization 75 perc', ('re0-zaza', 'ge-1/1/0.32767'))
[19-Dec-2007 21:48:18] <tijmen> yes i am monitoring localhost and was monitoring my laptop for testing purposes
[19-Dec-2007 21:48:28] <tijmen> the graphs were nicely displayed
[19-Dec-2007 21:54:01] <tijmen> you know anything about CollectorPlugins
[19-Dec-2007 22:00:16] <tijmen> john?
[19-Dec-2007 22:01:13] <tijmen> I'm fixing it later
[19-Dec-2007 22:01:25] <tijmen> have a nice day and thanks for all your help
[19-Dec-2007 22:01:29] <tijmen> see ya
[19-Dec-2007 22:36:32] <johns55> anyone know how to add a portscan to a device using snmp?
[19-Dec-2007 22:36:51] <johns55> i just need to monitor a udp port for a ntpd time server and snmp isnt doin a good job
[19-Dec-2007 22:52:47] fulgas is now known as FuL|OUT
[19-Dec-2007 23:13:32] darkhorse` is now known as darkhorse
[19-Dec-2007 23:29:24] <foo> Anyone in here come from a nagios background?
[19-Dec-2007 23:29:38] <foo> Note: I'm not starting a flame war, I'm just a curious mind lookin' for some input. heh
[19-Dec-2007 23:39:33] <johns55> chans dead
[19-Dec-2007 23:50:38] <rchrch> True
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[20-Dec-2007 00:25:40] <johns55> it'll be nice if they advertised on the zenos website
[20-Dec-2007 00:25:43] <johns55> maybw more ppl will come
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[20-Dec-2007 01:54:31] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[20-Dec-2007 01:54:39] <raddy> Anyone out there?
[20-Dec-2007 01:58:11] <johns55> wzp?
[20-Dec-2007 02:03:07] <raddy> johns55 : how can i get email notifications for Process UP events
[20-Dec-2007 02:03:32] <raddy> johns55 : i am getting e-mails only when processes down
[20-Dec-2007 02:06:54] <johns55> why would u need a process up email
[20-Dec-2007 02:07:14] <johns55> shouldnt u only want to be notified when things are down?
[20-Dec-2007 02:07:39] <raddy> johns55: to be sure if the process got started afterwards
[20-Dec-2007 02:08:04] <johns55> if the process gets started it will send u a clear email
[20-Dec-2007 02:09:13] <raddy> johns55: i didn't get clear e-mail
[20-Dec-2007 03:07:21] <raddy> progma : are you there?
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[20-Dec-2007 12:39:59] <kacee> Hi there, I'm new with zenoss and I'm stuck with adding a remote linux server using ssh. I've added the server as a device and followed the manual so the device uses ssh instead of snmp. When I run the zenmodeler with run -d [myserver], I get connection time outs after a while. At the remote server I'm tailing my auth log and it seems that zenoss/twisted ssh is trying to login but I won't get any authentication failures, ie doens't get a password or pre-sh
[20-Dec-2007 12:39:59] <kacee> ared key. Anybody got a clue what's going on?
[20-Dec-2007 13:41:33] <kacee> how do I enable logging on debug level, I enabled debug-mode in zope.conf but this didn;t work.
[20-Dec-2007 13:53:49] <ke4qqq> kacee: are you wanting to see debug level logs of monitored hosts or debug logs of zenoss itself.
[20-Dec-2007 13:54:57] <kacee> I want to see debug logs of zenoss itself. I'm having problems setting up a remote linux host using ssh and want to check out SshClient.py in the DataCollector product.
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[20-Dec-2007 15:15:19] <pvoccio> hello
[20-Dec-2007 15:15:54] <pvoccio> anyone awake this morning?
[20-Dec-2007 15:35:55] <subduc> 
[20-Dec-2007 15:36:00] <subduc> test
[20-Dec-2007 15:36:01] <subduc> quit
[20-Dec-2007 15:49:20] <Brixius> Anyone know if there's a way to import entire mib files into zenoss?
[20-Dec-2007 15:55:17] <pvoccio> isn't it: zenmib run somemibfile.mib ?
[20-Dec-2007 15:56:12] <pvoccio> as the zenoss user, of course
[20-Dec-2007 16:01:12] <Brixius> thanks
[20-Dec-2007 16:12:13] <mattfrye> anyone used zenos to monitor AIX servers?
[20-Dec-2007 16:12:17] <mattfrye> zenoss, even
[20-Dec-2007 16:21:45] <pvoccio> I don't suppose any zenoss engineers are lurking ....
[20-Dec-2007 16:21:53] <pvoccio> it'd sure be nice if they were. : )
[20-Dec-2007 16:23:11] <mattfrye> yeah, really :-)
[20-Dec-2007 16:59:48] <pvoccio> anyone with knowledge of zenoss' xmlrpc implementation?
[20-Dec-2007 17:00:03] <klinstifen> anyone know of URL that explains all wmi performance values?
[20-Dec-2007 18:05:47] <ke4qqq> hey guys, stupid question - how do you stop a service from reappearing every time a device is remodeled.
[20-Dec-2007 18:06:57] <ke4qqq> For instance, I have apache running, and it automatically starts looking at port 80. Since I don't permit regular http, only https it begins alarming. I tried deleting the service and that works til the device is remodeled
[20-Dec-2007 18:07:18] <Brixius> klinstifen: you can try http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6430F853-1120-48DB-8CC5-F2ABDC3ED314&displaylang=en it's windows tools for wmi exploration
[20-Dec-2007 18:09:04] <klinstifen> Brixius: thanks I'll check that out
[20-Dec-2007 18:18:53] <Brixius> ke4qqq: I believe I read once that if you lock a device it won't be remodeled. Don't quote me on that though, I've only been working with zenoss for probably 5 day's now.
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[20-Dec-2007 18:59:43] <johns55> ive locked ipservices because i created them manually
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[20-Dec-2007 19:19:29] <johns55> wzp guyz
[20-Dec-2007 19:45:37] <johns55> everytime i restart a server i always get the event snmp trap coldstart
[20-Dec-2007 19:45:39] <johns55> what is this?
[20-Dec-2007 19:46:09] <Brixius> that's snmp saying "I've just started"
[20-Dec-2007 19:46:25] <johns55> is it possible to not have this show up?
[20-Dec-2007 19:51:17] <Brixius> Don't know
[20-Dec-2007 19:53:15] <Singler04> hello
[20-Dec-2007 19:53:34] <Brixius> But I'm hopeing I can mask alerts to not show in Zenoss
[20-Dec-2007 19:56:30] <Singler04> does any one know how to fix ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[20-Dec-2007 19:57:09] <Brixius> Singler04: Is that a /Status/Wmi/Conn message?
[20-Dec-2007 19:57:37] <Singler04> yes
[20-Dec-2007 19:58:03] <Brixius> Singler04: I've been trying to find a solution for that one myself.
[20-Dec-2007 19:58:08] <Brixius> :(
[20-Dec-2007 19:58:30] <Singler04> wonderful
[20-Dec-2007 19:59:17] <Singler04> Its only happening on a couple of my servers, and I havent been able to find anything out from any where
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[20-Dec-2007 20:02:31] <ke4qqq> Brixius: That's great - but to delete the device you have to unlock it.....kinda a catch-22
[20-Dec-2007 20:03:08] <ke4qqq> Singler04: is it happening on all of ur Windows boxes?? or just some?
[20-Dec-2007 20:03:16] <ke4qqq> does the WMI account you specified have rights?
[20-Dec-2007 20:03:21] <ke4qqq> firewall issue perhaps?
[20-Dec-2007 20:03:45] <Singler04> ke4qqq: just a couple
[20-Dec-2007 20:03:59] <ke4qqq> johns55: yes you can map the event to a different class that has a lower setting - like debug or something
[20-Dec-2007 20:04:30] <johns55> ke4qqq: yes I've mapped that to snmp/status and changed the zproperties to be history instead of status
[20-Dec-2007 20:05:16] <Singler04> is there any way just to block the messages so they dont show up as events?
[20-Dec-2007 20:05:34] <johns55> yes set them to go to history
[20-Dec-2007 20:06:38] <Singler04> where do you set that at?
[20-Dec-2007 20:06:47] <johns55> i dont like how after you restart a server it takes 2 minutes for it to register that snmp is back up
[20-Dec-2007 20:07:05] <johns55> Singler: the event's zProperties
[20-Dec-2007 20:08:17] <Singler04> do i just enter it in the eventclear classes, set it to history and then hit save?
[20-Dec-2007 20:09:38] <johns55> is it set to status?
[20-Dec-2007 20:09:59] <Singler04> right now it is
[20-Dec-2007 20:10:04] <johns55> yes set it in history
[20-Dec-2007 20:10:36] <Singler04> but to send it to history do i have to enter the error so that it dosent send them all to history?
[20-Dec-2007 20:22:57] <Brixius> Singler04: I was getting it on all, but some of the messages have changed since I set the authentication info on the zProperties for the windows device class.
[20-Dec-2007 20:23:31] <Singler04> It looks like its fixed for me now
[20-Dec-2007 20:24:53] <Brixius> Singler04: to fix it did you setup your wmi auth in zProperties, or did you have to do something else as well?
[20-Dec-2007 20:25:15] <Singler04> i just went in and sent them to history
[20-Dec-2007 20:29:24] <Brixius> So you more hid them instead of fixing the reason they are showing up in the first place.
[20-Dec-2007 20:29:58] <Singler04> The thing is these errors just started to show up when we upgraded to 2.1, we dont use wmi we are monitoring via snmp
[20-Dec-2007 20:30:09] <Brixius> I'm sorry, as to not confuse the conversation I was talking about the Wmi messages.
[20-Dec-2007 20:30:12] <Brixius> Ok
[20-Dec-2007 20:31:46] <Singler04> So im not really concerned about them since wmi isnt what we are monitoring on our boxes I just wanted a way to hide them till we start to run wmi
[20-Dec-2007 20:31:49] <Brixius> I think you can shut off wmi under the zProperties tab so it doesn't use them
[20-Dec-2007 20:33:28] <Brixius> I think if you set zWmiMonitorIgnore to true, and zWinEventlog to false, those are the 2 that use wmi as far as I know, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[20-Dec-2007 20:34:11] <Brixius> that would be under the /devices/server/windows/zProperties
[20-Dec-2007 20:34:24] <Singler04> I already have the zwmimonitorignore set to true under /devices zProperties
[20-Dec-2007 20:34:27] <klinstifen> Brixius: i concur
[20-Dec-2007 20:34:52] <Singler04> Thank you
[20-Dec-2007 20:35:13] <Brixius> try setting zWinEventlog to false as well
[20-Dec-2007 20:35:27] <Singler04> I did thanks alot guys big help
[20-Dec-2007 20:41:27] <Singler04> does anybody know what the actual reason for this error is or where its trying to write to ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
[20-Dec-2007 20:43:22] <klinstifen> brixius: is there anythign under the details tab
[20-Dec-2007 20:43:30] <klinstifen> or have you looked at the server's eventvwr?
[20-Dec-2007 20:44:43] <Singler04> I have but its not showing anything on the machine as an error
[20-Dec-2007 20:46:31] <johns55> Singler, yes you need to set it to the specific error or else it will all go into history under the events category u choose
[20-Dec-2007 20:46:52] <Singler04> how would I go about doing that
[20-Dec-2007 20:47:48] <johns55> for example, i dont want snmp_coldstart to show up in my events after snmp start
[20-Dec-2007 20:48:02] <johns55> the event is located in the Eventclass mappings under /Events/Status/SNMP
[20-Dec-2007 20:48:05] <klinstifen> singler04: is the WMI service started on the box in question?
[20-Dec-2007 20:48:17] <Singler04> yes
[20-Dec-2007 20:48:18] <johns55> I click on the event, hit zproperties, and change it from status to history
[20-Dec-2007 20:54:29] <Singler04> That worked thanks alot
[20-Dec-2007 20:59:38] <johns55> not a problem
[20-Dec-2007 21:53:54] <johns55> anyone upgraded to 2.1.2 yet?
[20-Dec-2007 22:29:20] <Brixius> is anyone using the VMWare appliance as a production environment?
[20-Dec-2007 23:03:03] <johns55> chans been dead for awhile
[20-Dec-2007 23:11:26] <Brixius> seems like it's dead alot of the time, lots of people parked
[20-Dec-2007 23:13:07] <Brixius> kindof unfortunate, would be nice to be able to get a little more help at times, for me it's kindof a give and take thing, the more help I can get, the more help I can give as I learn more and more about it.
[20-Dec-2007 23:16:59] <johns55> does anyone know where to set the mysql password for zenoss?
[20-Dec-2007 23:35:26] <murphys_law> re
[20-Dec-2007 23:35:55] <murphys_law> anyone know if zenoss depends on Net-SNMP ?
[20-Dec-2007 23:36:08] <johns55> yes it does
[20-Dec-2007 23:36:20] <johns55> but u can use ssh to monitor too
[20-Dec-2007 23:36:24] <johns55> but that includes a lotta work
[20-Dec-2007 23:36:53] <murphys_law> arg.. it's not listed in the requirements. do you know which version? 5.4.1, 5.3.2 and 5.2.4 are all listed as stable on their website
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[20-Dec-2007 23:44:05] <murphys_law> anyone?
[20-Dec-2007 23:44:56] <murphys_law> just a report of "
[20-Dec-2007 23:45:15] <murphys_law> hey i'm using zenoss and i have 5.4.1" would be a great help
[20-Dec-2007 23:48:30] <johns55> u can use any version
[20-Dec-2007 23:48:47] <murphys_law> cool, thanks!
[20-Dec-2007 23:48:51] <johns55> why not just do a yum install
[20-Dec-2007 23:48:56] <johns55> r u trying to compile this from source?

[20-Dec-2007 23:48:59] <murphys_law> yes

[20-Dec-2007 23:49:06] <johns55> just yum install that sucker
[20-Dec-2007 23:49:12] <murphys_law> on solaris?
[20-Dec-2007 23:49:17] <johns55> o yeah
[20-Dec-2007 23:49:18] <johns55> nm
[20-Dec-2007 23:49:57] <murphys_law> thanks for the help, been stuck on this for weeks, opened a case online... but i found out from cluther that i need net-snmp
[20-Dec-2007 23:50:08] <murphys_law> not listed as a req
[20-Dec-2007 23:50:15] <johns55> yes it is
[20-Dec-2007 23:50:28] <johns55> it depends what u want to use to monitor your systems
[20-Dec-2007 23:50:39] <johns55> if you use portscan or ssh monitoring, SNMP is not needed
[20-Dec-2007 23:50:50] <johns55> SNMP is usually the most painless way
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:12] <murphys_law> just did a grep in the source dir, the only mention is somewhere in CHANGES
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:35] <johns55> ahh, u have to read the documenation on the website
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:37] <johns55> the zenoss admin guide
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:41] <johns55> it will tell u there
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:50] <johns55> the documenation included in those releases are REALLY old
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:56] <murphys_law> hehe
[20-Dec-2007 23:51:58] <johns55> from what i see dates back to the 1.x.x versions
[20-Dec-2007 23:52:02] <murphys_law> ok, that explains
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[21-Dec-2007 13:33:46] <klinstifen> anyone awake?
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[21-Dec-2007 16:45:48] <MoreDakka> Anyone alive in here?  Have a somewhat major problem with v1.1.1 :-/
[21-Dec-2007 17:08:58] <pvoccio> some folks are a live, but thats a pretty old version
[21-Dec-2007 17:09:26] <MoreDakka> Yeah I know.
[21-Dec-2007 17:09:36] <pvoccio> how major is the problem?
[21-Dec-2007 17:10:14] <MoreDakka> Well for some reason when I moved devices from one class to another zenoss is reporting snmp as down on those devices and is't monitoring anything via snmp anymore.
[21-Dec-2007 17:10:22] <MoreDakka> So....fairly major.
[21-Dec-2007 17:10:34] <pvoccio> what do the logs say?
[21-Dec-2007 17:10:39] <pvoccio> the event.log ?
[21-Dec-2007 17:13:45] <MoreDakka> No errors or anything.
[21-Dec-2007 17:14:10] <MoreDakka> I can even go to each of the devices and do a Collect Configuration and it'll go through no problem...
[21-Dec-2007 17:14:14] <MoreDakka> snmpwalk works.
[21-Dec-2007 17:16:10] <pvoccio> can you force a remodel?
[21-Dec-2007 17:16:22] <MoreDakka> How can I do that?
[21-Dec-2007 17:17:01] <pvoccio> looking... standby
[21-Dec-2007 17:17:07] <pvoccio> can you remove and re-add a device?
[21-Dec-2007 17:17:16] <MoreDakka> tried that, no change.
[21-Dec-2007 17:17:48] <pvoccio> device, click the page menu, manage, model
[21-Dec-2007 17:18:12] <MoreDakka> Oh, remodel is the same as Collect Configuration.
[21-Dec-2007 17:18:20] <MoreDakka> I have done that, goes through no problem.
[21-Dec-2007 17:18:50] <MoreDakka> Also tried to change the snmp version to see if that would get zenoss going again, nope :-/
[21-Dec-2007 17:19:19] <pvoccio> is there anything else in any of the logs?
[21-Dec-2007 17:19:24] <pvoccio> do you see it even trying to poll?
[21-Dec-2007 17:24:11] <MoreDakka> Would I see that through zenModeler or another deamon?
[21-Dec-2007 17:25:36] <pvoccio> I would start there, then go to a tcpdump or something to actually watch the packets.
[21-Dec-2007 17:25:45] <pvoccio> you need to verify that it is actually trying to poll.
[21-Dec-2007 17:26:08] <pvoccio> if you move them back to their old class, do they work there?
[21-Dec-2007 17:27:14] <MoreDakka> No.  I've tried to move back to their orignal class and nothing changes.
[21-Dec-2007 17:29:43] <pvoccio> you've done the simple thing of trying to restart z, right?
[21-Dec-2007 17:29:55] <MoreDakka> yeah, one of the first things I tried.
[21-Dec-2007 17:30:01] <pvoccio> ok
[21-Dec-2007 17:30:17] <pvoccio> can you tcpdump the snmp port to see if its trying to query?
[21-Dec-2007 17:30:59] <MoreDakka> Even if the count is going up?  Doesn't that mean it's polling?
[21-Dec-2007 17:31:07] <MoreDakka> How do I read a tcpdump file?
[21-Dec-2007 17:33:06] <pvoccio> what count?
[21-Dec-2007 17:33:36] <pvoccio> tcpdump -i eth0 host YOUR_MONITORED_HOST
[21-Dec-2007 17:33:55] <pvoccio> or whatever netdevice.
[21-Dec-2007 17:38:16] <MoreDakka> I see lots of snmp traffic to and from the box.
[21-Dec-2007 17:39:40] <pvoccio> ok, thats good.
[21-Dec-2007 17:40:13] <pvoccio> so, no errors in the logs, it is talking to it, you can walk it, but its marked as down?
[21-Dec-2007 17:40:21] <MoreDakka> yep
[21-Dec-2007 17:40:24] <MoreDakka> fun.
[21-Dec-2007 17:40:40] <pvoccio> is it marked up with a ping check?
[21-Dec-2007 17:40:54] <pvoccio> what class did you move them from/to?
[21-Dec-2007 17:40:56] <pvoccio> custom class
[21-Dec-2007 17:41:01] <pvoccio> are they using the right mibs?
[21-Dec-2007 17:44:22] <MoreDakka> I moved them from /Devices/Server/Windows-No Informant (I created this, just for cpu monitoring using Host Resources mib) to /Devices/Server/Windows, which is using the Informant MIB and I can walk all the OIDs that zenoss is currently trying to access.
[21-Dec-2007 17:47:07] <MoreDakka> However, the devices that I moved that have a local copy of the PerfConf from the /Devices/Servers/Windows-No Informant are being monitored by snmp and are showing as up.
[21-Dec-2007 17:53:38] <MoreDakka> I only see snmp traffic when I do a Collect Configuration
[21-Dec-2007 17:54:29] <MoreDakka> Other then that I see domain, pop3, http, smtp, domain, imaps, imap. As those are the other services that are being monitored on the box.
[21-Dec-2007 18:07:58] <pvoccio> sounds like you're pursing the right path, but I don't know that I can help you much more
[21-Dec-2007 18:09:49] <MoreDakka> :-/  thanks for pointing me in the right direction though.
[21-Dec-2007 18:09:59] <MoreDakka> Just hope a dev goes into the forums soon.
[21-Dec-2007 18:10:29] <johns55> doubt it, channels been pretty dead for the past few days
[21-Dec-2007 18:10:42] <johns55> havent spoken to any either
[21-Dec-2007 18:10:45] <MoreDakka> cluther was in the forums earlier this morning though.
[21-Dec-2007 18:18:21] <johns55> yes cluther is usually on the forums
[21-Dec-2007 18:24:46] <MoreDakka> alright...just a little weird here. I removed a device (there are about 14 that were having the snmp problem), restarted all the zenoss processes, added the device back in and all of a sudden now all of the devices are responding to snmp again...
[21-Dec-2007 18:32:35] <johns55> moredakka., what version zenoss r u running?
[21-Dec-2007 18:32:42] <johns55> have you tried to upgrade to the latest 2.1.2?
[21-Dec-2007 18:34:17] <MoreDakka> I have that in a test box, v1.1.1 in production right now.
[21-Dec-2007 18:34:42] <ke4qqq> 2.1.2 seems to fix a number of things that were wrong with 2.1.1
[21-Dec-2007 18:34:44] <johns55> whoa thats old, I suggest upgrading, it was pretty painless for me
[21-Dec-2007 18:34:47] <ke4qqq> but I haven't upgrade
[21-Dec-2007 18:34:50] <ke4qqq> d
[21-Dec-2007 18:35:21] <johns55> yeah 2.1.1 was having a lot of problems, hopefully I can stick with 2.1.2 for awhile
[21-Dec-2007 18:36:50] <ke4qqq> 2.1 was much better than 2.0, hopeing 2.1.2 is much better, but need to schedule a time to do it. how had was the upgrade? I haven't even read the docs yet
[21-Dec-2007 18:37:35] <johns55> ke4qqq: did you install zenoss using rpm for from souce?
[21-Dec-2007 18:37:41] <ke4qqq> rpm
[21-Dec-2007 18:38:06] <johns55> oh, I'm not really familiar with rpm, I did it from source which was pretty ez
[21-Dec-2007 18:38:22] <ke4qqq> hopefully it's just an rpm -Uvh
[21-Dec-2007 18:38:25] <ke4qqq> but who knows
[21-Dec-2007 18:38:28] <johns55> yeah thats what i heard
[21-Dec-2007 18:38:31] <ke4qqq> I'll prolly read the docs next week
[21-Dec-2007 18:38:49] <johns55> how long have you been using zenoss to monitor?
[21-Dec-2007 18:40:06] <ke4qqq> really monitor less than a month....though I have been trying out all of F/LOSS projects for about 8 months, everything from Hyperic, Groundwork, Zabbix, etc. .....Tried Zenoss second and came back to it as the best for my purposes.
[21-Dec-2007 18:40:17] <ke4qqq> still trying to do lots of customization - have much to go
[21-Dec-2007 18:40:20] <ke4qqq> but getting there
[21-Dec-2007 18:41:23] <johns55> i think out of the box the customization is not bad
[21-Dec-2007 18:41:38] <ke4qqq> I agree, and I think customization isn't bad either.
[21-Dec-2007 18:41:38] <johns55> gives u the standard things that you need to monitor a server
[21-Dec-2007 18:42:00] <johns55> it would have been really bad if it didnt come with the classes already there
[21-Dec-2007 18:42:09] <ke4qqq> I wouldn't go that far.....it gives you the software things to monitor - doesn't do a great job for hardware
[21-Dec-2007 18:42:37] <ke4qqq> out of the box.....but unless you get something from the vendor I don't expect that you get that from anyone
[21-Dec-2007 18:43:29] <ke4qqq> one annoying problem I am having is getting deleted things to not remodel.
[21-Dec-2007 18:44:02] <johns55> what do you mean by hardware? it has a cpu utilization threshold, memory threshold, i think thats good enough, too many monitors set can cause a lot of headache and sleepless nights
[21-Dec-2007 18:46:28] <pvoccio> I'd rather it have integrated raid monitoring. : )
[21-Dec-2007 18:46:42] <pvoccio> all of them have cpu and mem.
[21-Dec-2007 18:46:45] <pvoccio> thats expected
[21-Dec-2007 18:46:52] <johns55> are you using dell servers?
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:03] <pvoccio> sometimes, not always
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:05] <johns55> i've heard good things about the dellmonitors if you have openmanage installed
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:07] <ke4qqq> raid is necessary
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:13] <ke4qqq> so are power supplies
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:15] <ke4qqq> fans
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:21] <ke4qqq> possibly even temps
[21-Dec-2007 18:47:35] <johns55> ke4qqq: sounds like a headache
[21-Dec-2007 18:48:17] <ke4qqq> the headache is when you tout this nice new monitoring software and walk with your manager into the server room and see orange lights flashing because a drive failed and had 9 hours ago but we didn't catch it
[21-Dec-2007 18:48:44] <pvoccio> agreed
[21-Dec-2007 18:48:49] <pvoccio> that has happened to me
[21-Dec-2007 18:49:17] <ke4qqq> so I started modeling all of our hardware - which isn't painful just time consuming because there are so many different kinds and they are just slightly different.
[21-Dec-2007 18:50:36] <johns55> ke4qqq, what type of servers are you monitoring? are these production application servers?
[21-Dec-2007 18:51:01] <johns55> we usually have redundant webservers or database server so it's not so bad if 1 goes down
[21-Dec-2007 18:53:06] <pvoccio> right, but it sure is nice to know ahead of time if there is trouble to avoid that down time.
[21-Dec-2007 18:53:08] <pvoccio> or plan for it.
[21-Dec-2007 18:53:17] <pvoccio> if a raid device is failing you can schedule a swap
[21-Dec-2007 18:53:21] <pvoccio> be proactive.
[21-Dec-2007 18:53:33] <pvoccio> PHBs like that kind of stuff, you know?
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[21-Dec-2007 18:54:33] <johns55> true
[21-Dec-2007 18:54:38] <johns55> phbs?
[21-Dec-2007 18:54:50] <pvoccio> pointy headed bosses
[21-Dec-2007 18:55:00] <ke4qqq> I hate putting out fires - it's nice when I can send out an email saying - the dev server you are using had to have it's hdd replaced.....it'll be a little slow rather than them logging in and seeing an alert and sending me a scared-to-death-they-will-lose-their-data email saying a hard drive has failed.
[21-Dec-2007 18:58:26] <johns55> lol, either way it's a thankless job, nobody is gonna tell u did a good job that servers have been up for the past 6 months compared to if 1 thing goes wrong and they can access their files
[21-Dec-2007 18:58:35] <johns55> *cant
[21-Dec-2007 18:58:46] <ke4qqq> I agree.......
[21-Dec-2007 18:59:18] <pvoccio> my old boss had a sign he hung over his door....
[21-Dec-2007 18:59:25] <pvoccio> "nobody knows what we do until we don't do it"
[21-Dec-2007 19:01:41] <ke4qqq> and to answer your earlier quesiton, some are app servers, some are file servers, some are just basic infrastructure.
[21-Dec-2007 19:02:40] <pvoccio> yea, I have a few thousand firewalls and LBs to monitor.
[21-Dec-2007 19:02:45] <pvoccio> the less I have to input the better
[21-Dec-2007 19:02:54] <ke4qqq> wow
[21-Dec-2007 19:03:07] <pvoccio> going to do an xmlrpc to import the data
[21-Dec-2007 19:03:31] <pvoccio> and get all the mibs setup before hand. I'm not actually going to type a thing
[21-Dec-2007 19:07:14] <ke4qqq> cool
[21-Dec-2007 19:19:36] <johns55> sounds interesting
[21-Dec-2007 19:20:26] <johns55> how are you extracting the xmlrpc?
[21-Dec-2007 19:20:30] <johns55> r u running windows servers?
[21-Dec-2007 19:24:35] <johns55> wzp singler, got your problems all figured out?
[21-Dec-2007 19:25:01] <Singler04> alittle now im trying to setup the WMI and im having issues
[21-Dec-2007 19:25:41] <ke4qqq> what kind of WMI issues are you having
[21-Dec-2007 19:25:50] <pvoccio> we have a database that is running apache that serves the data.
[21-Dec-2007 19:26:11] <pvoccio> and then I turn right around and populate zenoss using the xmlrpc serives
[21-Dec-2007 19:26:17] <pvoccio> services
[21-Dec-2007 19:26:40] <Singler04> johns55: im trying to set WMI on one of my test servers and cant seem to figure out how to get it working corectly
[21-Dec-2007 19:26:53] <pvoccio> on 2.1.1 there is this tiny bug where a successful entry does not return the right number of parameters so ruby bitches
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:10] <pvoccio> so I'm trying to find someone who would know where to change that in the python libraries.
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:14] <Singler04> johnns55: I have WMI running but really dont know how to configure it
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:16] <johns55> hrm, can't help you there, i havent started mornitoring windows yet, all linux for now
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:30] <pvoccio> the xmlrpc isn't just windows, its linux too.
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:38] <johns55> did you make sure to install the informat snmp on thebox though?
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:39] <pvoccio> zenoss is running on linux monitoring cisco devices
[21-Dec-2007 19:27:43] <Singler04> crap, Anyone have any info?
[21-Dec-2007 19:42:12] <Singler04> does any one know where I kind find the setting for WMI to configure it
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[21-Dec-2007 20:26:53] <Singler04> I have start WMI on one of my test servers. Then I set the admin usr and pswrd in zenoss but im still geting ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88) in /status/Wmi/Conn. Any sugetions?
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[21-Dec-2007 21:00:07] <johns55> singler, to me it soulds like a permissions issue
[21-Dec-2007 21:00:16] <johns55> are you sure that you are running zenoss under the zenoss user?
[21-Dec-2007 21:00:46] <johns55> are you installing zenoss on a linux box or windows box
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:10] <Singler04> linux
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:22] <johns55> did u make sure it install it under teh zenoss user?
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:27] <johns55> and make sure to chown it too?
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:29] <edavison> trying to understand the DB design and use with zenoss core.
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:33] <edavison> Anyone have info on this?
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:50] <edavison> I assumed that it would store all info there as it is required to have MySQL.
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:53] <johns55> yes, all events are kepted in a db called events
[21-Dec-2007 21:02:54] <edavison> But, I only have 2 tables.
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:03] <edavison> What about config info?
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:05] <edavison> Devices?
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:06] <edavison> etc.
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:19] <johns55> its kept on the system
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:33] <johns55> thats what is migrated over when you perform zenmigrate
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:37] <edavison> you mean like in a file in a directory?
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:44] <johns55> in multiple
[21-Dec-2007 21:03:52] <edavison> wow.
[21-Dec-2007 21:04:08] <edavison> So, how would I go about doing a custom report on say installed software?
[21-Dec-2007 21:04:15] <Singler04> How do I find out if its under the zenoss user? I didnt install it someone eles did Im just trying to fix it
[21-Dec-2007 21:04:26] <edavison> I would have assumes I could pull it from the DB with a SQL query to a template.
[21-Dec-2007 21:04:42] <johns55> are u installing wmi under the host machine? or the remote machine?
[21-Dec-2007 21:05:00] <Singler04> remote on the windows box
[21-Dec-2007 21:05:04] <johns55> oo
[21-Dec-2007 21:05:14] <johns55> hrm
[21-Dec-2007 21:05:31] <johns55> if its not on the linux zenoss box, i cant help you there
[21-Dec-2007 21:05:58] <johns55> where are you seeing this error?
[21-Dec-2007 21:06:22] <Singler04> so if i install it on the linux box will it communicate with the wmi on the windows box
[21-Dec-2007 21:06:37] <johns55> install what?
[21-Dec-2007 21:06:42] <Singler04> wmi
[21-Dec-2007 21:07:13] <johns55> have you tried this? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch15s02.html
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[21-Dec-2007 21:52:33] <Singler04> where on the server would i find the WMI scripts
[21-Dec-2007 21:52:47] <Singler04> sorry Zenoss server
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[23-Dec-2007 07:27:04] <Ecalix> so zenoss can use WMI to monitor. how to you turn on/use this feature?
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[23-Dec-2007 19:14:11] <Ecalix> so zenoss can use WMI to monitor. how do you turn on/use this feature?
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[24-Dec-2007 18:06:03] <Brixius> I have events showing up under up under classes/events/events for a device that doesn't exist.
[24-Dec-2007 18:07:58] <Brixius> there is a bit of a background though, I'm using the vm appliance of zenoss core, and when I first booted it up it was on a dhcp network and it got an address from there, then when I put it on our static network it looks like it still is refrencing the origional address some how.
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[24-Dec-2007 19:52:20] <Brixius> ok, my zenwin think's it's name is something other then what it actually is. It's checking for zen services on an old name, although in devices it's got the correct name, any idea's how I stop it from doing that.
[24-Dec-2007 19:52:42] <Brixius> er zenoss, not zenwin
[24-Dec-2007 20:19:33] <Brixius> hmm, I must be the only onw working on xmas eve well maybe it's time to go home and give up for today.
[24-Dec-2007 23:03:13] <eurowerke> anyone get their graphs screwed up with the 2.1.2 update?
[24-Dec-2007 23:03:24] <eurowerke> i'm missing rrd files all of the sudden
[24-Dec-2007 23:57:21] <eurowerke> hrm
[24-Dec-2007 23:59:47] <eurowerke> it appears that in 2.1.2, ports that at ifOperStatus down(2) don't get port rrd files created by default
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[26-Dec-2007 04:46:53] <crazyal> Happy Chirstmas!
[26-Dec-2007 04:47:00] <crazyal> Has anyone experimented with Zenoss and Amazon EC2?
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[26-Dec-2007 16:32:20] <pablo26> hi all, is anyone using groups of users? they are not working for me
[26-Dec-2007 17:17:29] <pablo26> hi all, is anyone using groups of users? they are not working for me
[26-Dec-2007 18:26:36] <stanner> Im having problems making windows monitoring of harddisk space/utilization work properly, any one have any sugguestions?
[26-Dec-2007 19:08:14] <pablo26> hi all
[26-Dec-2007 19:08:54] <pablo26> is anyone using the groups of users feature? i cant get it to work
[26-Dec-2007 19:14:19] <pablo26> anyone there?
[26-Dec-2007 19:36:05] <eurowerke_> ok
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[26-Dec-2007 20:01:37] <Brixius> Hello
[26-Dec-2007 20:03:09] <Brixius> Should Zenoss find hardware models in the mibs, for example if it autodiscovers a smartups, and I have the PowerNet-MIB imported into zenoss, should it find the model based on the mib?
[26-Dec-2007 20:24:25] <Brixius> Anyone around, I'm having a really weird problem I could use some help with.
[26-Dec-2007 20:49:25] <eurowerke> i don't think so, Brix -- about the UPS thing
[26-Dec-2007 20:49:43] <eurowerke> afaik, the mibs are only for trap processing
[26-Dec-2007 20:49:54] <Brixius>
[26-Dec-2007 20:49:59] <Brixius> bummer
[26-Dec-2007 20:50:12] <eurowerke> to label them right with meaningful names instead of OIDs
[26-Dec-2007 20:50:43] <eurowerke> i could easilt be wrong though... :-p
[26-Dec-2007 20:50:49] <eurowerke> easily*
[26-Dec-2007 20:51:09] <Brixius> ya, it would be nice if since it's using snmp to model the device, seem's like it should know to enum the value in the loaded mibs if available.
[26-Dec-2007 20:51:29] <eurowerke> yeah you'd think hehe
[26-Dec-2007 20:51:30] <eurowerke>
[26-Dec-2007 20:51:53] <eurowerke> feature request?
[26-Dec-2007 20:51:53] <eurowerke> hehe
[26-Dec-2007 20:51:59] <eurowerke> or maybe it's already planned
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:04] <eurowerke> we'll see :-P
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:30] <eurowerke> gotta go fix some network wiring now, lol. I put the wrong color jack on the wrong wire d0h
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:31] <eurowerke> hehe
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:38] <Brixius> maybe, but I'd like to know if it's supposed to before I put in a feature request. I don't want to ask for something that's allready there.
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:46] <eurowerke> yeah
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:52] <eurowerke> search around the trac site
[26-Dec-2007 20:52:58] <eurowerke> might be a listing there somewhere
[26-Dec-2007 20:53:01] <Brixius> have fun with your wiring
[26-Dec-2007 20:53:04] <eurowerke> see ya
[26-Dec-2007 20:53:05] <eurowerke>
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[26-Dec-2007 23:17:40] <OzyWebMaster> Hi all
[26-Dec-2007 23:18:06] <OzyWebMaster> I have a problem with my graphing, it has gaps in the graph at even intervals
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[27-Dec-2007 12:13:14] <pablo26> hi all
[27-Dec-2007 12:14:20] <pablo26> anyone knows how can i debug a command?
[27-Dec-2007 15:31:22] <tuxero> hi !
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[27-Dec-2007 15:32:06] <tuxero> some one can helps me with a Graph Trouble ?
[27-Dec-2007 15:33:16] <tuxero> actually im monitoring my postfix smtp traffic trought snmp
[27-Dec-2007 15:34:38] <tuxero> but when i set up my DataPoints to read them, the graph displays values in format "VALUE k" or "VALUE M" intead of "VALUE"
[27-Dec-2007 15:36:41] <tuxero> DataPoints are set to Gauge or Counter, and i get the same response to this, whats be wrong here ?
[27-Dec-2007 15:38:47] <tuxero> any one can help me?
[27-Dec-2007 15:50:04] <tuxero> hello ????
[27-Dec-2007 16:14:21] <tuxero> India hi ?
[27-Dec-2007 16:14:34] <India> tuxero: hello
[27-Dec-2007 16:14:41] <tuxero>
[27-Dec-2007 16:15:00] <tuxero> could you help me?
[27-Dec-2007 16:15:21] <India> perhaps
[27-Dec-2007 16:15:36] <India> I am new to zenoss myself and came here ask a real quick question
[27-Dec-2007 16:15:45] <tuxero>
[27-Dec-2007 17:00:04] <slamm> Anyone seen this error in Zenoss 2.1?
[27-Dec-2007 17:00:06] <slamm> Unable to retrieve zenwinperf counter\SQLServer:Databases(_Total)\Data File(s) Size (KB) for
[27-Dec-2007 17:00:24] <slamm> Trying to monitor a Windows 2003 server....
[27-Dec-2007 17:00:41] <slamm> Actually the MSSQL DB.
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[27-Dec-2007 19:07:08] <thedude42> greetings
[27-Dec-2007 19:08:15] <hotgrits> hello, thedude42
[27-Dec-2007 19:10:01] <thedude42> anyone know anything about issues with zope or odbc utility with the current svn?
[27-Dec-2007 19:10:11] <thedude42> during install, that is
[27-Dec-2007 19:12:05] <hotgrits> not me, unfortunately
[27-Dec-2007 19:23:58] <thedude42> wow
[27-Dec-2007 19:24:37] <thedude42> well, some svn check in since last night fixed the issues i was running in to
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[27-Dec-2007 20:26:21] <thedude42> loving version 2.1
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[27-Dec-2007 21:53:14] <stanner> zenoss is failing to model any computers on my netwok
[27-Dec-2007 23:13:35] <johns55> anyone have dellmonitor installed on a non redhat system? and also without open manage
[27-Dec-2007 23:13:40] <johns55> does it work?
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[27-Dec-2007 23:55:35] <johns55> anybody here?
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[28-Dec-2007 08:29:43] <OzyWebMaster> Hi
[28-Dec-2007 08:29:51] <OzyWebMaster> Anyone here had problems with gaps in the graph
[28-Dec-2007 09:28:43] <wam> Hi, is there any way to manually start a collection for a device?
[28-Dec-2007 12:46:40] <pablo26> hhi all
[28-Dec-2007 12:46:56] <pablo26> is any way to set dependencies?
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[28-Dec-2007 13:45:24] <wam> Hi, the filesystem command seems to be broken here. I'm using the check via ssh and I get a event that more than 90% are used and the current value is shown. The value is correct, but it looks like zenoss doesn't get the titelBlocks value correctly. I'm using zenoss from svn (install.sh) and the "usual" zenoss plugins. Might this be the error?
[28-Dec-2007 13:48:15] <wam> Might it be that the plugins are outdated? In my zenoss installation in libexec, I find several ELF-files which seem to work perfectly. Do I have to modify all commands?
[28-Dec-2007 14:27:33] <pablo26> wam maybe i'm wrong but i think the zenoss plug ins must be installed on monitored host not locally
[28-Dec-2007 14:42:03] <wam> pablo26: right - i did that.
[28-Dec-2007 14:42:14] <wam> pablo26: also they are called - but the calculation is wrong.
[28-Dec-2007 15:16:20] <stanner> How do i get zenoss to modle the computers on my network?
[28-Dec-2007 15:17:19] <Brixius> Is there a way to see the enum values of a mib? for example in the COFFEE-POT-MIB potMetric has 1=expresso, 2=demi-tasse, etc...
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:04] <Brixius> well it's more potMetric  OBJECT-TYPE
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:05] <Brixius>      SYNTAX     INTEGER {
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:05] <Brixius>                  espresso(1),
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:05] <Brixius>                  demi-tasse(2),
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:05] <Brixius>                  cup(3),
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:05] <Brixius>                  mug(4),
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:07] <Brixius>                  bucket(5)
[28-Dec-2007 15:18:09] <Brixius>                  }
[28-Dec-2007 15:20:32] <Brixius> oh, and I'm talking in the mib browser in Zenoss, I can get them by using less and just reading the mibs, but it would be nice to be able to see that information in the mib browser in zenoss.
[28-Dec-2007 15:26:16] <stanner> Brixius, I have not gotten response to anything in the last few days
[28-Dec-2007 15:26:20] <stanner> Good luck
[28-Dec-2007 15:27:42] <Brixius> I've noticed that too, I hardly get responses to anything, would be nice if there were more active people on the channel.
[28-Dec-2007 15:28:06] <stanner> Yeah i have resulted to lookin in the forums and i think i found my problem
[28-Dec-2007 15:28:23] <stanner> too restrictive snmp configuration
[28-Dec-2007 15:28:23] <pablo26> this used to be more active
[28-Dec-2007 15:29:44] <Brixius> I remember when I was setting up asterisk and the channel was very interactive and helpful, I used to give help to a bunch of people, I'd get help with questions I've had then after I'd figured it out, I'd help people with simlear issues, or other things I could help with.
[28-Dec-2007 15:36:27] <stanner> it happens
[28-Dec-2007 15:39:37] <stanner> haha
[28-Dec-2007 15:39:52] <stanner> i somehow just whped all configuration from my sudousers file
[28-Dec-2007 18:59:06] <ziggurat> Hey there. During SNMP software audit we get: zen.ApplyDataMap plugin zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap device THUFER2...
[28-Dec-2007 18:59:26] <ziggurat> that results in: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xa0' in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
[28-Dec-2007 18:59:55] <ziggurat> I've found one instance of this in the forums with no replies which leads me to believe it's a simple fix.
[28-Dec-2007 19:00:55] <ziggurat> can someone shed light on this?  It happens with all the windows targets we have.
[28-Dec-2007 19:23:10] <johns55> anyone install the mysql monitor?
[28-Dec-2007 19:31:41] <johns55> i just install mysql monitor, having trouble setting the root mysql monitoring password
[28-Dec-2007 19:31:48] <johns55> the only place i've found is under /Devices  /Server  /Templates  /MySQL  /mysql
[28-Dec-2007 19:31:55] <johns55> is this the only place to set the password?
[28-Dec-2007 19:42:11] <ziggurat> just FYI, changing the encoding to "latin-1" works great.
[28-Dec-2007 19:42:40] <ziggurat> that's seems kinda basic... should I submit a patch?
[28-Dec-2007 19:50:19] <johns55> any answer for my question?
[28-Dec-2007 20:02:25] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I setup a few datapoints to graph - I initially set them up as gauge, but then changed to counter. Unfortunately it seems that the graphs are still graphing them as gauges.....any thoughts?
[28-Dec-2007 20:14:24] <ziggurat> ke4qqq: in rrdtool, when the rrd is created, the type is defined and can't be changed
[28-Dec-2007 20:14:35] <ziggurat> unless you create another rrd
[28-Dec-2007 20:15:09] <ziggurat> for example, for my weatherduck:
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:17] <ziggurat> DS:temp:GAUGE:30:0:110 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:17] <ziggurat> DS:flow:GAUGE:30:0:200 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:17] <ziggurat> DS:humidity:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:17] <ziggurat> DS:light:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:17] <ziggurat> DS:temp:GAUGE:30:0:110 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:17] <ziggurat> DS:flow:GAUGE:30:0:200 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:19] <ziggurat> DS:humidity:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:21] <ziggurat> DS:light:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:23] <ziggurat> RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:120960 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:27] <ziggurat> DS:temp:GAUGE:30:0:110 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:29] <ziggurat> DS:flow:GAUGE:30:0:200 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:31] <ziggurat> DS:humidity:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:33] <ziggurat> DS:light:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:35] <ziggurat> RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:120960 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:37] <ziggurat> DS:temp:GAUGE:30:0:110 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:39] <ziggurat> DS:flow:GAUGE:30:0:200 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:41] <ziggurat> DS:humidity:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:43] <ziggurat> DS:light:GAUGE:30:0:100 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:45] <ziggurat> RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:120960 \
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:47] <ziggurat> DS:temp:GAUGE:30:0:110 ... etc
[28-Dec-2007 20:16:54] <ziggurat> oops, sorry for so much pastage... but you get the idea. Eash data source is defined when the rrd is created
[28-Dec-2007 20:19:14] <johns55> i added a device IP to /Ping but it shows up as the IP for the device name also, is there a way to change the device name to something custom?
[28-Dec-2007 20:21:57] <ke4qqq> ziggurat, ok, I'll try creating another rrd
[28-Dec-2007 20:21:58] <ke4qqq> thanks
[28-Dec-2007 20:43:32] <johns55> ah nm i solved my own answer
[28-Dec-2007 21:10:44] <ke4qqq> another quesiton - I have the graph I referred to above working properly. However, iirc counter defaults to counts per second. So if it updates the counts and there has been an increase of 5 in 5 minutes it reports 8/1000ths per second on the graph. Is there a way to change that behavior in zenoss?
[28-Dec-2007 21:13:50] <ziggurat> I don't know.  I'm a newbie and have the very same question.
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[28-Dec-2007 21:30:51] <ke4qqq> ziggurat: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13436
[28-Dec-2007 21:31:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - rrd graphing milli values (at community.zenoss.com)
[28-Dec-2007 21:33:15] <ziggurat> oh, that's great.  thanks for that.
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[29-Dec-2007 17:14:24] <murphys_law> question on MIBs: do they come in zenpacks? Do I contact the vendor for MIBs? Basically: where can I get them?
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[31-Dec-2007 03:08:04] <murphys_law> re... wondering what to do in zenoss now that i have a device or 2 setup. i can see network interfaces for them, etc but not filesystems, CPUs, model, etc. how can I see that information?
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[31-Dec-2007 15:34:52] <cluther> Good morning (or whatever it is for you), Zenossians.
[31-Dec-2007 17:16:13] <Brixius> Hello, having a problem with changing a threshhold for alerts on windows filesystem, when ever I go to change the alert I get a dump. http://pastebin.org/13644
[31-Dec-2007 17:16:26] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.org)
[31-Dec-2007 17:27:52] <cluther> Brixius: Are you trying to rename it?
[31-Dec-2007 17:29:16] <cluther> Brixius: I'm seeing the same thing. It would appear that you cannot rename thresholds once created. I'm going to put in a ticket to have this option either made available, or make the name a non-editable field.
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[31-Dec-2007 18:51:30] <Brixius> cluther: ya that's kindof what I was trying to do, I ended up creating a new one and setting the old one to disabled.
[31-Dec-2007 18:51:54] <cluther> Good idea.. you could even delete the old one.
[31-Dec-2007 18:52:30] <Brixius> Thought about that, but decided that it didn't really hurt to leave it there.
[31-Dec-2007 18:55:08] <johns55> hey guys, i just restarted my zenoss box and now its giving me a heartbeat failure to itself
[31-Dec-2007 18:55:15] <johns55> any idea why it is doing this? all daemons are running and on
[31-Dec-2007 18:55:46] <cluther> johns55: If your zenoss box changed hostname it could be expecting heartbeats from the old name..
[31-Dec-2007 18:56:17] <cluther> johns55: You could go to Event Manager then to the menu and choose Clear All Heartbeats. If the heartbeat events don't come back that was the issue.
[31-Dec-2007 19:01:58] <johns55> let me check
[31-Dec-2007 19:02:38] <Brixius> Thank you I was having that problem too, only from 2 old names... it was driving me crazy because I couldn't figure out how to describe it to anyone to ask how I get rid of it.
[31-Dec-2007 19:03:56] <cluther> It's a common one. When the daemons send their heartbeats in, their hostname is part of the heartbeat. This is because the daemons can run on different hosts than the central server and there can be more than one of each.
[31-Dec-2007 19:04:21] <johns55> i dont understand why a reboot would cause this, i dont recall changing hostnames
[31-Dec-2007 19:04:43] <cluther> If the server is pulling it's IP address from DHCP it could have been assigned a different one.
[31-Dec-2007 19:06:09] <johns55> thats not the case
[31-Dec-2007 19:06:11] <Brixius> that was my issue, when I first started the server (VM Image) it was on a dhcp network and got it's name from dns, but then when I moved it to our esx cluster and manually set the hostname/ip it was getting heartbeat errors from it's old name.
[31-Dec-2007 19:06:26] <johns55> i cleared the heartbeats and cleared the events to history and now it looks like its doin well
[31-Dec-2007 19:06:35] <johns55> thanks cluther
[31-Dec-2007 19:06:43] <cluther> great
[31-Dec-2007 19:07:45] <Brixius> I do have another intresting thing going on, under classes/events I have roughly 400 events from one of my devices, but when I goto the device under classes/devices it only lists 9. any ideas why?
[31-Dec-2007 19:16:00] <cluther> It's likely that 391 of the events aren't associated with any device that you've added to Zenoss.
[31-Dec-2007 19:16:08] <cluther> Brixius: Are they SNMP traps or syslogs?
[31-Dec-2007 19:16:26] <Brixius> snmp traps
[31-Dec-2007 19:23:54] <cluther> Is it possible that a lot of the traps came in before you added the device to zenoss?
[31-Dec-2007 19:25:30] <Brixius> the device is listed under the device column, but it was added by ip address rather then by name, I wonder if that's the problem.
[31-Dec-2007 19:26:18] <cluther> It likely is. If you go to that device's OS tab, do you see any interfaces with a matching IP address? This is how Zenoss would figure out what device to associated to the event.
[31-Dec-2007 19:27:17] <Brixius> we don't have these devices in dns, they are big telcom switches replacements for a 5ES or DMS type switch.
[31-Dec-2007 19:27:21] <Brixius> ok let me check
[31-Dec-2007 19:28:42] <Brixius> gonna take a few mins, there's 987 interfaces on this beast.
[31-Dec-2007 19:31:31] <Brixius> ok looks like it's got getting the ip info from the system, there are no ip's listed under ther interface list.
[31-Dec-2007 19:36:03] <Brixius> cluther: thanks, I appreciate the help.
[31-Dec-2007 19:36:46] <cluther> No problem.. it's odd that the IP address information wouldn't be available.
[31-Dec-2007 19:37:17] <cluther> If this thing isn't in DNS yet, you could probably stick a reference to the IP address with the name you gave the device in zenoss so that traps could be associated with the device properlyl.
[31-Dec-2007 19:43:03] <Brixius> ya I wsa thinking of adding it to the hosts file on the zenoss server
[31-Dec-2007 19:45:46] <Brixius> like i said, it's a switch, but not an ethernet one like your probably thinking, it's more a voice switch that switches probably 900 ds3's and individual calls in those ds3's.
[31-Dec-2007 19:48:34] <Brixius> is there a way I can manually add ip addresses to a device and then lock the interface so it doesn't get remodeled?
[31-Dec-2007 19:49:22] <Brixius> nevermind, I found it.
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[31-Dec-2007 20:02:42] <Brixius> I figured out why it's not getting the ip address, it's returning it in a different oid then a standard server.
[31-Dec-2007 20:11:49] <Brixius> so to fix where it's getting the ip information from do I have to write a new zCollectorPlugin based on InterfaceMap.py
[31-Dec-2007 20:26:30] <Brixius> the device is using the ipnettomedia table which looks like it's in the InterfaceMap.py but not working for some reason.
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