[2008-12-04 09::59:27] mrayzenoss: Good morning/afternoon/evening
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[2008-12-04 10::01:35] mrayzenoss: so... any questions?
[2008-12-04 10::03:26] andrewp: I use Zenoss to monitor uptime and response time of websites. Recently I've found that I can no longer add new ones to my installation because two 'devices' can no longer share an IP.
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[2008-12-04 10::06:11] mrayzenoss: andrewp: I didn't think you could do 2 machines to the same IP
[2008-12-04 10::06:51] chudler: I think he is referring to Apache virtual hosts or similar setups
[2008-12-04 10::07:00] LarsN: How would you monitor multiple websites by URL hosted in a shared environment on a single server then?
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[2008-12-04 10::08:36] andrewp: Yeah, I was referring to a virutal hosting environment.
[2008-12-04 10::08:49] jrszenoss: andrewp: I would love to see websites modeled as components of devices. It would solve this and other problems people have monitoring websites. I don't think it's in the cards anytime soon however.
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[2008-12-04 10::09:07] jrszenoss: andrewp: I know that doesn't help you any right now
[2008-12-04 10::13:09] andrewp: I haven't used any workarounds yet. I thought about trying to add devices at the Zope level because the monitoring and perf data for the old sites added in previous releases is still workikng perfectly.
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[2008-12-04 10::13:37] andrewp: But that's too hack-ish. I wanted to see what you guys thought would be the best way to do this.
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[2008-12-04 10::17:44] jrszenoss: I'm not sure that there is a good solution currently. What would you like to use to monitor the sites - HttpMonitor? ZenWebTx? other?
[2008-12-04 10::19:44] mrayzenoss: So how is 2.3 working out for people?
[2008-12-04 10::21:23] chudler: upgrade went very smoothly and no real problems.
[2008-12-04 10::21:52] andrewp: jrszenoss: I currently use the Nagios check_http plugin but getting away from that would be nice
[2008-12-04 10::22:40] jrszenoss: andrewp: If you are just simply hitting a few pages you could create HttpMonitor datasources for each one, setting Host Name to the url you want to check rather than the default. This is burdensome for many sites/pages but works for reasonable number.
[2008-12-04 10::22:43] atrawog: 2.3 is working fine. Except the ShowGraph ZenPack which won't install in 2.3.
[2008-12-04 10::23:35] jrszenoss: andrewp: HttpMonitor is using check_http in the background to do the lifting. The datasource fields will look familiar if you've used check_http
[2008-12-04 10::23:41] mrayzenoss: I'm still working on setting up the Community ZenPack site, I'm sure there are a bunch of simple fixes that could be applied to a lot of the ZenPacks to get them straightened out (like ShowGraph)
[2008-12-04 10::28:02] andrewp: jrszenoss: I'll have to give that a try
[2008-12-04 10::30:13] atrawog: mrayzenoss: Will the Community Trac site have different accounts than http://dev.zenoss.com ?
[2008-12-04 10::30:49] mrayzenoss: unfortunately yes, we don't have single sign on for the Trac stuff yet
[2008-12-04 10::31:42] chudler: would there be any way to set an Escalate count on every event occurring under an organizer?
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[2008-12-04 10::33:28] mrayzenoss: so every time there is an event of a certain type, escalate?
[2008-12-04 10::34:02] malbon: hola folks
[2008-12-04 10::34:08] mrayzenoss: greetings magnachef
[2008-12-04 10::34:30] magnachef: I running Zenoss 2.1.3, but I'm finding an issue with devices that have multiple IPs, with multiple services bound to each IP (apache, lighttpd, mysql, etc). When I try and monitor the device via the management IP, it will see the services listening at the IPs, but those services will fail until I add the production IP that the services are listening on
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[2008-12-04 10::37:05] chudler: Has there been any thought towards defining templates in places other than the Devices tree?
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[2008-12-04 10::37:31] mrayzenoss: chudler: what are you proposing?
[2008-12-04 10::37:54] jrszenoss: chudler: Not that I'm aware of. We have templates defined at the Monitors also, but that's sort of a special case.
[2008-12-04 10::37:58] malbon: mrayzenoss: are there any JMX guru's here today?
[2008-12-04 10::38:10] cgibbons: oh i bet we could find out.
[2008-12-04 10::38:16] chudler: Systems/Groups/Locations that have templates the same way that Devices do. I don't know how feasible it is.
[2008-12-04 10::38:23] dcnoye: did someone log the meeting that was @ 11am ?
[2008-12-04 10::38:28] mrayzenoss: malbon: I know there's one, sometimes he's shy
[2008-12-04 10::38:59] chudler: It would solve some problems for me, such as organizing and monitoring things by system, even though they are running different OS/hardware.
[2008-12-04 10::39:07] malbon: mrayzenoss: exellent
best asset of a good programmer.
[2008-12-04 10::39:18] mrayzenoss: dcnoye: I'm logging it. It'll be up later
[2008-12-04 10::39:27] gf69: magnachef
[2008-12-04 10::39:39] magnachef: gf69
[2008-12-04 10::39:39] dcnoye: thanks mrayzenoss
[2008-12-04 10::39:42] gf69: it maps my server...finally
[2008-12-04 10::39:53] magnachef: nice...what was the issue?
[2008-12-04 10::40:17] gf69: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/2455 halfway down this page
[2008-12-04 10::40:23] malbon: ok, I have a small issue, one value is not being converted to an int, but it is being recieved by the zenjmx daemon properly. I have a pastebin here: http://pastebin.ca/1276008
[2008-12-04 10::40:26] magnachef: does anyone have any thoughts about my question above? am I being clear enough?
[2008-12-04 10::40:31] adytum-bot: Title: snmpwalk to remote address gives timeout | debianHELP (at www.debianhelp.org)
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[2008-12-04 10::40:47] malbon: the 02 value is not being converted properly.
[2008-12-04 10::40:50] gf69: had to go in /etc/default and edit the snmp file in there
[2008-12-04 10::40:58] magnachef: ahhh
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[2008-12-04 10::41:30] jrszenoss: chudler: you can accomplish that now by defining templates at some common class higher up in the device tree then binding to devices on a case by case basis. This is one of those approaches that works okay for a few devices but would drive you mad if you tried to do this for dozens of devices.
[2008-12-04 10::42:15] chudler: yeah, it works on a small scale.
[2008-12-04 10::42:58] gf69: the file has a string with a 127.0.0.1 in it i took just the 127.0.0.1 out of it and it worked
[2008-12-04 10::43:50] atrawog: magnachief: Best way is to define multiple devices in Zenoss and monitor every service on the IP address it is primarily running.
[2008-12-04 10::45:07] malbon: so can anyone help me to find out why the value of 02 doesn't ever make it into an RRD file?
[2008-12-04 10::45:42] magnachef: atrawog: unfortunately we have services running across multiple IPs
[2008-12-04 10::47:36] malbon: here is another pastebin that clearly shows it isn't updating 02: http://pastebin.ca/1276018
[2008-12-04 10::47:47] adytum-bot: Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
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[2008-12-04 10::49:53] PCDudeX: Question - I'd like to be able to click a link on the device page that would display a graphic of the rack that the device is mounted on and display an indicator on the device to show its position. Is this doable?
[2008-12-04 10::51:02] dcnoye: is there a debian repository for zenoss for etch ?
[2008-12-04 10::51:06] PCDudeX: I'm using ver 2.3
[2008-12-04 10::51:50] mrayzenoss: dcnoye: http://dev.zenoss.org/deb/
[2008-12-04 10::51:57] adytum-bot: Title: Index of /deb (at dev.zenoss.org)
[2008-12-04 10::51:58] dcnoye: thanks mrayzenoss
[2008-12-04 10::52:08] mrayzenoss: PCDudeX: perhaps a zlink? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch10s17.html
[2008-12-04 10::52:23] adytum-bot: Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[2008-12-04 10::52:35] atrawog: magnachef:In most cases that doesn't make much of a difference. Because if a services dies listening on one IP it quite like stops working on ther other IPs too.
[2008-12-04 10::52:39] mrayzenoss: PCDudeX: I also have a Zenoss/Deki mashup that would work for that
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[2008-12-04 10::54:04] chudler: mrayzenoss: that is very interesting. I started writing a flash app for zenoss to give datacenter map instead of google maps, but I am sure I won't have time to finish it.
[2008-12-04 10::56:06] mrayzenoss: I wrote the Zenoss/Deki mashup for the LISA tradeshow, our booth was next to MindTouch. I'll put this up soon, my SourceForge project just got accepted. https://sourceforge.net/projects/zenossdeki/
[2008-12-04 10::56:23] adytum-bot: Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss/Deki Mashup (at sourceforge.net)
[2008-12-04 10::57:09] mrayzenoss: So to recap, things that I'm behind on: Zenoss/Deki mashup, Zenoss desktop tray applet and the Zenoss Community ZenPacks site
[2008-12-04 10::57:16] magnachef: atrawog: but I have a one to one relationship with Services to IPs
[2008-12-04 11::00:18] jplouis: malbon, can you get a screen shot of how you have the datasource configured?
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[2008-12-04 11::00:55] PCDudeX2: I'm back
[2008-12-04 11::01:11] malbon: jplouis: yes sure.
[2008-12-04 11::02:04] jplouis: malbon: what is the return type of the JMX operation you are calling?
[2008-12-04 11::02:27] malbon: jplouis: hang on I'll get a screenshot.
[2008-12-04 11::03:01] jplouis: sure
[2008-12-04 11::05:50] malbon: jplouis: hmm.
[2008-12-04 11::05:57] jplouis: if you can open a ticket with the screen shot and the return type of the operation call I will look at it
[2008-12-04 11::07:02] malbon: Ok, I've just sent it again anyway but this time as a jpeg.
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[2008-12-04 11::09:18] chudler: I am curious what (if anything) people are doing to prevent GET requests with user/pass logging when zenoss is served through apache.
[2008-12-04 11::11:21] jplouis: malbon: got the image
[2008-12-04 11::11:34] malbon: jplouis: cool.
[2008-12-04 11::11:52] jplouis: malbon: maybe I don't understand the problem... I can see it is creating an rrd file for the 02 datapoint
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[2008-12-04 11::15:12] malbon: jplouis: yes, it makes an rrd, but never provides an 02 value
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[2008-12-04 11::16:00] malbon: jplouis: if you have a peek at http://pastebin.ca/1276018 you'll see it only updates 04 12 and 14 values.
[2008-12-04 11::16:07] adytum-bot: Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
[2008-12-04 11::17:08] mrayzenoss: jrszenoss needs to get going, so I guess we'll wrap this up pretty soon
[2008-12-04 11::17:11] malbon: jplouis: I'll catch up with you tomorrow, I have to be somewhere else now. Thanks for looking into it.
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[2008-12-04 11::21:31] jb: hi
[2008-12-04 11::21:46] mrayzenoss: yeah, jrszenoss is checking out soon
[2008-12-04 11::22:19] jb: kpg here today?
[2008-12-04 11::22:42] mrayzenoss: don't see him, I can find him
[2008-12-04 11::22:47] jrszenoss: Lunchtime here, catch you folks later.
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[2008-12-04 11::23:52] jb: hey kells
[2008-12-04 11::23:54] mrayzenoss: says he's on his way
[2008-12-04 11::24:00] kells: G'day, g'day!
[2008-12-04 11::24:28] jb: wondering if you could give me a copy of your snmpd.conf for AIX?.. im going to test your zenpack in dev.. net-snmp is killing me on some boxes.
[2008-12-04 11::24:49] jplouis: malbon: if you run zenjmx in a cycle does it not eventually get a value? I don't believe the derive type stores the actual value, it stores the rate if change over a step period
[2008-12-04 11::25:05] kells: It'll have to be a little bit more artful as I don't have an actual AIX box here.
[2008-12-04 11::25:12] jb: ah ok
[2008-12-04 11::29:03] kells: VACM_GROUP group1 SNMPv1 public -
[2008-12-04 11::33:28] jb: sorry had to step away
[2008-12-04 11::34:38] kells: The AIX performance toolbox client that used to be sold separately is now bundled with AIX as of errrr... at least 5.3
[2008-12-04 11::35:30] jb: oh nice
[2008-12-04 11::36:22] kells: There's a separate package in the AIX base install.
[2008-12-04 11::36:53] jb: heh, yeah without the mib only returns 170 OID's
[2008-12-04 11::38:30] kells: Sorry, I don't have an AIX box lying around so you'll have to take what I say at the moment with a large block of salt.
[2008-12-04 11::38:46] jb: haha ok
[2008-12-04 11::38:46] kells: We're working on fixing that though.
[2008-12-04 11::38:48] jb: no probs
[2008-12-04 11::39:40] kells: We're looking at picking up a basic desktop style box for simple sanity checking.
[2008-12-04 11::40:00] jb: i actually have a b52 or whatever already boxed up sitting right next to me
[2008-12-04 11::40:03] kells: Do you happen to have an HMC set up?
[2008-12-04 11::40:18] jb: yeah
[2008-12-04 11::40:43] kells: I think that would be quite helpful actually!
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[2008-12-04 11::40:46] jb: ok
[2008-12-04 11::41:25] mrayzenoss: jb: yes?
[2008-12-04 11::41:37] jb: mrayzenoss.. i'd like to donate some IBM pSeries hardware
[2008-12-04 11::42:07] mrayzenoss: jb: sounds great
[2008-12-04 11::42:27] jb: want me to give you a call about it?
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[2008-12-04 11::55:31] kells: Back to the salt mines for me! Thanks again JB!
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[2008-12-04 12::13:37] Firestar_: How do I configure ZenModeller _not_ to model a device every 12/whatever hours?
[2008-12-04 12::15:33] magnachef: you can run it from cron, or change a variable in the config
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[2008-12-04 12::36:25] gf69: how do I get it to show multiple devices on the google map on the main page. I can only see where it has me put in the main device
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[2008-12-04 12::58:36] rhett__: is there a known problem w/ nested location appearing on google maps portlet?
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[2008-12-04 13::11:42] rhett__: has any one used the openlayer zenpack?
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[2008-12-04 13::18:20] mrayzenoss: gf69: on the Google Map portlet, go to the settings and change the Base Location to the sublocation you want, like /Locations/Denver
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[2008-12-04 13::19:37] mrayzenoss: rhett: there is a bit of an issue if you leave out parts of the map hierarchy: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3753
[2008-12-04 13::22:28] rhett__: ah yes. i was trying to use L1 as an organizer for a specific location and branches of that location (two under L1 in my current case). then just used addressing for the lower levels
[2008-12-04 13::24:13] mrayzenoss: just make the L1 something general, like the state or city
[2008-12-04 13::24:36] rhett__: will do
[2008-12-04 10::00:00] ** You changed the topic to "Zenoss Developers are here.".
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[2008-12-04 10::01:35] mrayzenoss: so... any questions?
[2008-12-04 10::03:26] andrewp: I use Zenoss to monitor uptime and response time of websites. Recently I've found that I can no longer add new ones to my installation because two 'devices' can no longer share an IP.
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[2008-12-04 10::06:11] mrayzenoss: andrewp: I didn't think you could do 2 machines to the same IP
[2008-12-04 10::06:51] chudler: I think he is referring to Apache virtual hosts or similar setups
[2008-12-04 10::07:00] LarsN: How would you monitor multiple websites by URL hosted in a shared environment on a single server then?
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[2008-12-04 10::08:36] andrewp: Yeah, I was referring to a virutal hosting environment.
[2008-12-04 10::08:49] jrszenoss: andrewp: I would love to see websites modeled as components of devices. It would solve this and other problems people have monitoring websites. I don't think it's in the cards anytime soon however.
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[2008-12-04 10::09:07] jrszenoss: andrewp: I know that doesn't help you any right now
[2008-12-04 10::13:09] andrewp: I haven't used any workarounds yet. I thought about trying to add devices at the Zope level because the monitoring and perf data for the old sites added in previous releases is still workikng perfectly.
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[2008-12-04 10::13:37] andrewp: But that's too hack-ish. I wanted to see what you guys thought would be the best way to do this.
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[2008-12-04 10::17:44] jrszenoss: I'm not sure that there is a good solution currently. What would you like to use to monitor the sites - HttpMonitor? ZenWebTx? other?
[2008-12-04 10::19:44] mrayzenoss: So how is 2.3 working out for people?
[2008-12-04 10::21:23] chudler: upgrade went very smoothly and no real problems.
[2008-12-04 10::21:52] andrewp: jrszenoss: I currently use the Nagios check_http plugin but getting away from that would be nice
[2008-12-04 10::22:40] jrszenoss: andrewp: If you are just simply hitting a few pages you could create HttpMonitor datasources for each one, setting Host Name to the url you want to check rather than the default. This is burdensome for many sites/pages but works for reasonable number.
[2008-12-04 10::22:43] atrawog: 2.3 is working fine. Except the ShowGraph ZenPack which won't install in 2.3.
[2008-12-04 10::23:35] jrszenoss: andrewp: HttpMonitor is using check_http in the background to do the lifting. The datasource fields will look familiar if you've used check_http
[2008-12-04 10::23:41] mrayzenoss: I'm still working on setting up the Community ZenPack site, I'm sure there are a bunch of simple fixes that could be applied to a lot of the ZenPacks to get them straightened out (like ShowGraph)
[2008-12-04 10::28:02] andrewp: jrszenoss: I'll have to give that a try
[2008-12-04 10::30:13] atrawog: mrayzenoss: Will the Community Trac site have different accounts than http://dev.zenoss.com ?
[2008-12-04 10::30:49] mrayzenoss: unfortunately yes, we don't have single sign on for the Trac stuff yet
[2008-12-04 10::31:42] chudler: would there be any way to set an Escalate count on every event occurring under an organizer?
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[2008-12-04 10::33:28] mrayzenoss: so every time there is an event of a certain type, escalate?
[2008-12-04 10::34:02] malbon: hola folks
[2008-12-04 10::34:08] mrayzenoss: greetings magnachef
[2008-12-04 10::34:30] magnachef: I running Zenoss 2.1.3, but I'm finding an issue with devices that have multiple IPs, with multiple services bound to each IP (apache, lighttpd, mysql, etc). When I try and monitor the device via the management IP, it will see the services listening at the IPs, but those services will fail until I add the production IP that the services are listening on
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[2008-12-04 10::37:05] chudler: Has there been any thought towards defining templates in places other than the Devices tree?
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[2008-12-04 10::37:31] mrayzenoss: chudler: what are you proposing?
[2008-12-04 10::37:54] jrszenoss: chudler: Not that I'm aware of. We have templates defined at the Monitors also, but that's sort of a special case.
[2008-12-04 10::37:58] malbon: mrayzenoss: are there any JMX guru's here today?
[2008-12-04 10::38:10] cgibbons: oh i bet we could find out.
[2008-12-04 10::38:16] chudler: Systems/Groups/Locations that have templates the same way that Devices do. I don't know how feasible it is.
[2008-12-04 10::38:23] dcnoye: did someone log the meeting that was @ 11am ?
[2008-12-04 10::38:28] mrayzenoss: malbon: I know there's one, sometimes he's shy
[2008-12-04 10::38:59] chudler: It would solve some problems for me, such as organizing and monitoring things by system, even though they are running different OS/hardware.
[2008-12-04 10::39:07] malbon: mrayzenoss: exellent
best asset of a good programmer.[2008-12-04 10::39:18] mrayzenoss: dcnoye: I'm logging it. It'll be up later
[2008-12-04 10::39:27] gf69: magnachef
[2008-12-04 10::39:39] magnachef: gf69
[2008-12-04 10::39:39] dcnoye: thanks mrayzenoss
[2008-12-04 10::39:42] gf69: it maps my server...finally
[2008-12-04 10::39:53] magnachef: nice...what was the issue?
[2008-12-04 10::40:17] gf69: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/2455 halfway down this page
[2008-12-04 10::40:23] malbon: ok, I have a small issue, one value is not being converted to an int, but it is being recieved by the zenjmx daemon properly. I have a pastebin here: http://pastebin.ca/1276008
[2008-12-04 10::40:26] magnachef: does anyone have any thoughts about my question above? am I being clear enough?
[2008-12-04 10::40:31] adytum-bot: Title: snmpwalk to remote address gives timeout | debianHELP (at www.debianhelp.org)
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[2008-12-04 10::40:47] malbon: the 02 value is not being converted properly.
[2008-12-04 10::40:50] gf69: had to go in /etc/default and edit the snmp file in there
[2008-12-04 10::40:58] magnachef: ahhh
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[2008-12-04 10::41:30] jrszenoss: chudler: you can accomplish that now by defining templates at some common class higher up in the device tree then binding to devices on a case by case basis. This is one of those approaches that works okay for a few devices but would drive you mad if you tried to do this for dozens of devices.
[2008-12-04 10::42:15] chudler: yeah, it works on a small scale.
[2008-12-04 10::42:58] gf69: the file has a string with a 127.0.0.1 in it i took just the 127.0.0.1 out of it and it worked
[2008-12-04 10::43:50] atrawog: magnachief: Best way is to define multiple devices in Zenoss and monitor every service on the IP address it is primarily running.
[2008-12-04 10::45:07] malbon: so can anyone help me to find out why the value of 02 doesn't ever make it into an RRD file?
[2008-12-04 10::45:42] magnachef: atrawog: unfortunately we have services running across multiple IPs
[2008-12-04 10::47:36] malbon: here is another pastebin that clearly shows it isn't updating 02: http://pastebin.ca/1276018
[2008-12-04 10::47:47] adytum-bot: Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
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[2008-12-04 10::49:53] PCDudeX: Question - I'd like to be able to click a link on the device page that would display a graphic of the rack that the device is mounted on and display an indicator on the device to show its position. Is this doable?
[2008-12-04 10::51:02] dcnoye: is there a debian repository for zenoss for etch ?
[2008-12-04 10::51:06] PCDudeX: I'm using ver 2.3
[2008-12-04 10::51:50] mrayzenoss: dcnoye: http://dev.zenoss.org/deb/
[2008-12-04 10::51:57] adytum-bot: Title: Index of /deb (at dev.zenoss.org)
[2008-12-04 10::51:58] dcnoye: thanks mrayzenoss
[2008-12-04 10::52:08] mrayzenoss: PCDudeX: perhaps a zlink? http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.3.0/ch10s17.html
[2008-12-04 10::52:23] adytum-bot: Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[2008-12-04 10::52:35] atrawog: magnachef:In most cases that doesn't make much of a difference. Because if a services dies listening on one IP it quite like stops working on ther other IPs too.
[2008-12-04 10::52:39] mrayzenoss: PCDudeX: I also have a Zenoss/Deki mashup that would work for that
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[2008-12-04 10::54:04] chudler: mrayzenoss: that is very interesting. I started writing a flash app for zenoss to give datacenter map instead of google maps, but I am sure I won't have time to finish it.
[2008-12-04 10::56:06] mrayzenoss: I wrote the Zenoss/Deki mashup for the LISA tradeshow, our booth was next to MindTouch. I'll put this up soon, my SourceForge project just got accepted. https://sourceforge.net/projects/zenossdeki/
[2008-12-04 10::56:23] adytum-bot: Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss/Deki Mashup (at sourceforge.net)
[2008-12-04 10::57:09] mrayzenoss: So to recap, things that I'm behind on: Zenoss/Deki mashup, Zenoss desktop tray applet and the Zenoss Community ZenPacks site
[2008-12-04 10::57:16] magnachef: atrawog: but I have a one to one relationship with Services to IPs
[2008-12-04 11::00:18] jplouis: malbon, can you get a screen shot of how you have the datasource configured?
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[2008-12-04 11::00:55] PCDudeX2: I'm back
[2008-12-04 11::01:11] malbon: jplouis: yes sure.
[2008-12-04 11::02:04] jplouis: malbon: what is the return type of the JMX operation you are calling?
[2008-12-04 11::02:27] malbon: jplouis: hang on I'll get a screenshot.
[2008-12-04 11::03:01] jplouis: sure
[2008-12-04 11::05:50] malbon: jplouis: hmm.
[2008-12-04 11::05:57] jplouis: if you can open a ticket with the screen shot and the return type of the operation call I will look at it
[2008-12-04 11::07:02] malbon: Ok, I've just sent it again anyway but this time as a jpeg.
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[2008-12-04 11::09:18] chudler: I am curious what (if anything) people are doing to prevent GET requests with user/pass logging when zenoss is served through apache.
[2008-12-04 11::11:21] jplouis: malbon: got the image
[2008-12-04 11::11:34] malbon: jplouis: cool.
[2008-12-04 11::11:52] jplouis: malbon: maybe I don't understand the problem... I can see it is creating an rrd file for the 02 datapoint
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[2008-12-04 11::15:12] malbon: jplouis: yes, it makes an rrd, but never provides an 02 value
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[2008-12-04 11::16:00] malbon: jplouis: if you have a peek at http://pastebin.ca/1276018 you'll see it only updates 04 12 and 14 values.
[2008-12-04 11::16:07] adytum-bot: Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1276018 (at pastebin.ca)
[2008-12-04 11::17:08] mrayzenoss: jrszenoss needs to get going, so I guess we'll wrap this up pretty soon
[2008-12-04 11::17:11] malbon: jplouis: I'll catch up with you tomorrow, I have to be somewhere else now. Thanks for looking into it.
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[2008-12-04 11::21:31] jb: hi
[2008-12-04 11::21:46] mrayzenoss: yeah, jrszenoss is checking out soon
[2008-12-04 11::22:19] jb: kpg here today?
[2008-12-04 11::22:42] mrayzenoss: don't see him, I can find him
[2008-12-04 11::22:47] jrszenoss: Lunchtime here, catch you folks later.
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[2008-12-04 11::23:52] jb: hey kells
[2008-12-04 11::23:54] mrayzenoss: says he's on his way
[2008-12-04 11::24:00] kells: G'day, g'day!
[2008-12-04 11::24:28] jb: wondering if you could give me a copy of your snmpd.conf for AIX?.. im going to test your zenpack in dev.. net-snmp is killing me on some boxes.
[2008-12-04 11::24:49] jplouis: malbon: if you run zenjmx in a cycle does it not eventually get a value? I don't believe the derive type stores the actual value, it stores the rate if change over a step period
[2008-12-04 11::25:05] kells: It'll have to be a little bit more artful as I don't have an actual AIX box here.
[2008-12-04 11::25:12] jb: ah ok
[2008-12-04 11::29:03] kells: VACM_GROUP group1 SNMPv1 public -
[2008-12-04 11::33:28] jb: sorry had to step away
[2008-12-04 11::34:38] kells: The AIX performance toolbox client that used to be sold separately is now bundled with AIX as of errrr... at least 5.3
[2008-12-04 11::35:30] jb: oh nice
[2008-12-04 11::36:22] kells: There's a separate package in the AIX base install.
[2008-12-04 11::36:53] jb: heh, yeah without the mib only returns 170 OID's
[2008-12-04 11::38:30] kells: Sorry, I don't have an AIX box lying around so you'll have to take what I say at the moment with a large block of salt.
[2008-12-04 11::38:46] jb: haha ok
[2008-12-04 11::38:46] kells: We're working on fixing that though.
[2008-12-04 11::38:48] jb: no probs
[2008-12-04 11::39:40] kells: We're looking at picking up a basic desktop style box for simple sanity checking.
[2008-12-04 11::40:00] jb: i actually have a b52 or whatever already boxed up sitting right next to me
[2008-12-04 11::40:03] kells: Do you happen to have an HMC set up?
[2008-12-04 11::40:18] jb: yeah
[2008-12-04 11::40:43] kells: I think that would be quite helpful actually!
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[2008-12-04 11::40:46] jb: ok
[2008-12-04 11::41:25] mrayzenoss: jb: yes?
[2008-12-04 11::41:37] jb: mrayzenoss.. i'd like to donate some IBM pSeries hardware
[2008-12-04 11::42:07] mrayzenoss: jb: sounds great
[2008-12-04 11::42:27] jb: want me to give you a call about it?
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[2008-12-04 11::55:31] kells: Back to the salt mines for me! Thanks again JB!
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[2008-12-04 12::13:37] Firestar_: How do I configure ZenModeller _not_ to model a device every 12/whatever hours?
[2008-12-04 12::15:33] magnachef: you can run it from cron, or change a variable in the config
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[2008-12-04 12::36:25] gf69: how do I get it to show multiple devices on the google map on the main page. I can only see where it has me put in the main device
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[2008-12-04 12::58:36] rhett__: is there a known problem w/ nested location appearing on google maps portlet?
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[2008-12-04 13::11:42] rhett__: has any one used the openlayer zenpack?
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[2008-12-04 13::18:20] mrayzenoss: gf69: on the Google Map portlet, go to the settings and change the Base Location to the sublocation you want, like /Locations/Denver
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[2008-12-04 13::19:37] mrayzenoss: rhett: there is a bit of an issue if you leave out parts of the map hierarchy: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3753
[2008-12-04 13::22:28] rhett__: ah yes. i was trying to use L1 as an organizer for a specific location and branches of that location (two under L1 in my current case). then just used addressing for the lower levels
[2008-12-04 13::24:13] mrayzenoss: just make the L1 something general, like the state or city
[2008-12-04 13::24:36] rhett__: will do
